[1. Republic Services Presentation on Yard Waste Collection. Republic Services will provide an update for Commissioners and the public on the current status of Residential Yard Waste Collection in the north service area.]

>> MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DEAN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER

SMITH.LL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE.

>> THE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY PARIS AND NOW WE MOVE INTO ITEM REQUEST A PUBLIC SERVICE PROVIDED PRESENTATION BECAUSE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ISSUES OR COMPLAINTS THE RESIDENCE ABOUT THE YARD WASTE COLLECTION. I APPRECIATE THEM COMING TODAY AND BRIEFING US ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS.

>> GOOD MORNING.WHEN COMMISSIONER BLOCKER STATED, WE ARE APPEAR TO PRESENT AN UPDATE ON THE CURRENT YARD WASTE ISSUES IN THEIR ACTION ITEMS THEY ARE LOOKING TO ADDRESS.

WE WANT TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR SOLID WASTE PROGRAM PARIS BE OUTSOURCER RESIDENTIAL COLLECTION FOR YARD WASTE, HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE AND RECYCLING.

WE HAVE TWO PROVIDERS, ONE TO THE NORTH WHICH IS REPUBLIC SERVICES WE HAVE EVENTS DISPOSAL TO THE SOUTH.

WE HAVE MR. BILL BRINKLEY FROM THE GENERAL MANAGER FROM REPUBLIC SERVICES TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF FROM ST. JOHN'S COUNTY FOR BEING HERE. I MYSELF AM A ST. JOHN'S COUNT RESIDENT. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON . WE HAVE A SERVICE PROVIDED THROUGH MULTIPLE ENTITIES SINCE 1985.

WE PROVIDE SERVICE TO 63,239 HOMES, HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE SCHOOL, RECYCLED YARD WASTE AND APPLIANCES SCHEDULED.

LEAVES 158,868 SERVICE OPPORTUNITIES A MONTH FOR THAT IS HOW MANY TIMES WE ARE DRIVING BY HOMES IN A MONTH.

JUST TO BACK UP A BIT, WE LOOK AT YARD WASTE AS WE CALL IT MARCH MADNESS. IT TYPICALLY CRANKS UP AROUND THE BASKETBALL TERMINATE SO WE DUBBED IT MARCH MADNESS IN LATE FEBRUARY INTO MARCH. WE DO NOT HAVE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES ON THE BACK OF THE TRUCKS THAT WORK ON A FULL-TIME BASIS BECAUSE MARCH MADNESS LASTS FROM MARCH THROUGH SEPTEMBER AND YARD WASTE SUBSIDES A BIT.

SO THIS YEAR EARLIER ON IN MARCH WHEN MARCH MADNESS HIT, THE LABOR CHALLENGES HIT. WE USE THREE NOW.

WITH INCREASED WAGES WITHIN. BUT WE ORDER OUR LABOR AND WE WOULD BE LUCKY TO GET 10 OR 15 OR 20PERCENT TO SHOW UP .

THAT CALLS US REALLY BIG TIME STRUGGLES.

AND MAY ROLLS AROUND IN THE PANDEMIC SPIKED AGAIN AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAD FOLKS GOING OUT ON COVID AGAIN.

SO IT HAS BEEN A GRIND. OUR GOAL AND OUR PLAN THE ENTIRE TEAM IS NEVER LEAVE GARBAGE ON THE GROUND WOULD NEVER LEAVE RECYCLE ON THE GIRLHOOD YARD WASTE UNFORTUNATELY HAS TAKEN THE HIT WILL RUN EIGHT ROUTES A DAY.

WE ARE RUNNING FOUR ROUTES A DAY.

WE ARE INCENTIVIZING OUR DRIVERS TO SPOT BONUSES TO COME IN ON SATURDAYS AND TO WORK TO HELP GET CAUGHT UP .

USE OF THE DIVISIONS OF MIND TO SEND IN ON SATURDAYS AS WELL.

BUT WITH THE SPIKE IN BUT WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THAT EXTRA RESOURCE AVAILABLE. SO WE ARE CURRENT ON EVERYTHING WITH THE EXCEPTION YARD WASTE WE ARE RUNNING 7 TO 10 DAYS BEHIND. WHAT WE HAVE DONE THROUGHOUT ALL THIS IS WE TYPICALLY GET IT OUR TIME.

THE SON WE CONTRACTED COMPANIES LIKE KINSEY, GASTON AND THEY HAVE GONE OUT AND BEEN A HUGE HELP ON THE LARGE YARD WASTE.

YARD WASTE IS UNLIMITED SO THEY BRING THEIR TRUCKS OUT THERE AND GET IT. WE RECENTLY THE ROAD AND BRIDGES HAD COME OUT HELPING US CLEAN UP ROSCOE THIS PAST FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AGAIN, WE ADDED 1/10 COMPANY. WE ADDED A CLERK, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, AND AN ADDITIONAL FUNDER THAT WILL SHARE AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION FOR ANYBODY THAT HAS YARD WASTE ISSUES THEY CAN CALL THAT NUMBER AND WE CAN WORK THROUGH THEIR SCHEDULE WITH THEM AND LET THEM KNOW.

WE ARE TRYING TO AVOID ZIGZAGGING THROUGH THE COUNTY THAT WAY WE WON'T FALL FURTHER BEHIND.

WE ARE TRYING TO STICK TO OUR SCHEDULE AS IS RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN WE HAVE PROVIDED THE YARD WASTE DROP FACILITY AT OUR SITE AT 4:45 REPUBLIC DRIVE OR FOLKS WANT TO BRING IT UP THERE THEY CAN AND STAFF.F THEY CAN DROP IT OFF THERE.

WE HAVE PROBABLY COLLECTED 40 TONS OF MATERIALS SINCE WE PUT IT OUT THERE A MONTH AGO. AND I APOLOGIZE IF THE

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RESIDENCE HAPPEN TO BRING IT UP THERE.

AND IS AN OPPORTUNE SOLUTION FOR THERE ARE SOME ENJOYS TALKING TO US ABOUT PUTTING OUT A CONTAINER IN THEIR AREA SO RESIDENTS CAN DUMP IN THERE AND GET IT OUT OF THE FRONT YARD.

WE ALSO HAVE A JOB FAIR ON SITE THIS SATURDAY AND SO FAR WE HAVE 10 FOLKS SIGNED UP FOR THAT.E ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND IS GOING TO COMBINE WITH ANOTHER PLAN I WILL SHARE WITH YOU SHORTLY.

HERE'S A PHOTO OF THE YARD WASTE DROP SITE.

WE HAVE A TRUCK PARKED OUT THERE THAT WE CAN LOAD AND COMPACTED AND WE HAVE A CONTAINER AS WELL.

THAT HAS BEEN WORKING WELL. IT IS OUR PLAN FOR IT I CAN'T RUB A LAMP AND SAY I'M GOING TO HAVE EVERYONE STUFFED AND READY TO GO BY NEXT MONDAY, BUT I DO KNOW OCTOBER 1 I HAVE 12 DRIVERS AND TWO HELPERS, THOSE OF THE FOLKS ON THE BACK OF THE TRUCK, THAT WILL BE TRANSFERRING DOWN TO OUR SEABOARD OFFICE OCTOBER 1 FROM JACKSONVILLE BILLION ACTUALLY HAVE ONE SET OF RAISED THEIR HANDS THAT WANT TO COME DOWN PAREN I CHALLENGE MY OFFICER MANAGER TO FIGURE OUT A WAY BECAUSE I MIGHT HAVE THREE OR FOUR MORE COMING DOWN.

AND WE WILL JUST BE OVERSTAFFED, I WILL BE FINE WITH THAT. A MAJORITY OF OUR RIGHTS ROUTES WILL BE DRIVER DRIVER TEAMS. THE BEAUTY OF THAT WOULD BE IF A DRIVER HAPPENED TO CALL OUT WE COULD PUT THE LABOR ON THE BACK AND STILL RUN THAT ROUTE. THAT'S THE GOAL.

DRIVER DRIVER TEAMS. AND OUR PLAN IS BASICALLY TO REMAIN OVERSTOCKED. I ALREADY TOLD MY HIERARCHY THAT THEY ARE FINE WITH IT. AND BE AVAILABLE TO THE SYSTEM AND OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY OR ANYWHERE WE NEEDED.

THAT WILL TAKE EFFECT OCTOBER 1. AGAIN, YARD WASTE ISSUES 904, 342-4473 THAT WILL RING DIRECTLY TO US AND OUR FOLKS WILL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHEN WE CAN COME OUT THERE AND HELP YOU OUT. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. I APPRECIATE GREG AND HIS TEAM IN THE PARTNERSHIP AND IS WORKING TOGETHER.

WE HAVEN'T SAT BACK AND LET THIS TAKE THIS DOWN.

WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TRY TO STAY AHEAD OF IT AND OVERCOME IT AND MAKE SURE THE GARBAGE RECYCLE IS PICKED UP AS

WELL. >> THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD?

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >>CHRISTIAN WHITEHURST: OBVIOUSLY IN MY DISTRICT YOU GUYS ARE A PROVIDER WHO WOULD I AM ANSWERING SEVERAL CALLS OR EMAILS A DAY.

IS A COMMON THEME IN HEARING FROM RESIDENTS IN OUR DISTRICT IS IT WE DON'T GET SERVICES, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY THE FEE.

AND I KNOW AND YOU KNOW IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY THEY ARE ASKING FOR. THERE JUST EXPRESSING THEIR FRUSTRATION PUT WHAT HE SAID RESIDENCE WHEN THEY SAY IF I'M NOT GETTING THE SERVICE I DON'T WANT TO PAY THIS MONEY FOR THE

SERVICE. >> COVID-19 HAS BEEN A WORLDWIDE THING. UNTIL THE NATIONAL PANDEMIC AND THERE IS A CLAUSE I FEEL IS IN PLACE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS OUTSIDEOUR CONTROL DAY TODAY. I WOULD ASK FOR PATIENTS.

AND AGAIN, WE ARE GETTING YOUR GARBAGE AND RECYCLE IT PLEASE, JUST CALL THAT NUMBER. AND WE CAN WORK THAT OUT BUT IF YOU GUYS CAN POST THAT NUMBER ON YOUR SITES OR WHATEVER.

THE PATIENT'S. 2-44 DAYS WE GET TO OCTOBER 1 AND I WILL BE OVERSTAFFED AT MY DIVISION IN SAINT AUGUSTINE

PREVENT. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?

COMMISSIONER DEAN? >>HENRY DEAN: SHORT OF A COMMONER OBSERVATION THAT WE HAVE HAD SO MUCH DIFFICULTY OVER THE LAST YEAR OF HALF AS A NATION, AS A STATE THAT WITH COVID-19. THERE ARE DIFFERENT ISSUES AT PLAY, BUT THEY ALL ADD UP TO SIMILAR PROBLEMS ACROSS THIS WHOLE NATION WITH LABOR SUPPLY SHORTAGES AND THE PROBLEMS IT HAS CREATED . THE PROBLEM WE SORTED FACE THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER PROBLEMS LIKE IF RESTAURANTS CAN'T HIRE WAITERS AND THEY CLOSED DOWN WITH THOSE OF US WHO WANT TO GO OUT CAN FIND A RESTAURANT THAT IS OPEN.

BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE YARD TRASH PICKUP.

IT IS SORT OF A FIRST WORLD PROBLEM.

IT'S NOT 1/3 WORLD PROBLEM. BUT THEY DON'T HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE BASICALLY UNLESS THEY HIRE THEIR OWN TRUCK.

AND IS GENERATED A LOT OF ANGST WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS WE ARE HAVING, INDIVIDUALS ARE HAVING AND WE CAN EVEN GET ARI YOUR TRASH PICKED UP. SO I HOPE YOU CAN APPRECIATE US AS COMMISSIONERS WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THEY ARE PAYING FOR THROUGH YOU BECAUSE THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD ALTERNATIVE LIKE I WOULD IF I WANT TO GO TO ANOTHER RESTAURANT THAT HAPPENS TO BE OPEN.

I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE BUT IT DOES.

WE ARE AVERAGING SLIGHTLY LESS THAN THE AMOUNT OF TONNAGE IS WE HAVE PICKED UP LAST YEAR THIS TIME.

THEY ARE GETTING PICKED UP, WE HAVE TO GET BACK ON THAT SCHEDULE AND THAT WILL HELPRUN EIGHT TRUCKS A DAY .

>> I APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN READING THIS PLAN PHOTO WILL NOT GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS AS COMMISSIONER

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WHITEHURST POINTED OUT. THIS IS A DAILY PHONE CALL, EMAIL, RESIDENTS ARE PAYING FOR THE SERVICE.

THEY EXPECT TO SEE A RETURN ON THEM, WHICH I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.

IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE RESIDENTS AND TRUSTS ARE LOOKED AFTER. WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THIS. WE WILL LOOK FOR ONGOING UPDATES FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM COMMIT TO MR. CALDWELL.

AND WE HOPE THIS GETS RESOLVED QUICKLY.

I HOPE THIS IS RESOLVED BEFORE OCTOBER.

BECAUSE I THINK RESIDENTIAL COUNTY FOR THIS AND THEY EXPECT A CERTAIN RETURN ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCLUDING COMMENTS OR ANYTHING FURTHER TO SHARE?

>> THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS WE ARE FOLLOWING OUR CONTRACT RIGHT NOW. WE MADE THE PUBLIC AWARE OF WHAT THE LOTS IN THE CONTRACT MAKING SURE THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CONTRACT. WE ARE WORKING WITH MAKING SURE THINGS ARE DOCUMENTED AT THIS TIME FOR THEIR WORKING TO RESPOND AS PER THE CONTRACT AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT UNTIL WE ARE UP AND RUNNING FOR THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS GETTING SERVICE BACKUP AND THE SECOND IS MAKING SURE WE FOLLOW THROUGH ON OUR CONTRACT OBLIGATIONS.

>> ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE BOARD? WHY DO WE OPEN THIS UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS IS NOT AN ACTION ITEM, BUT LET'S GIVE THE PUBLIC AN

OPPORTUNITY. >> WE WILL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 1. PUBLIC COMMENT.

NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. >> GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN.

MY NAME IS WILLIAM FISHER 1130 BATEMAN AVENUE THROUGH THE RESIDENTS AND FLAG NEW STATES DON'T REALLY HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THE CONTRACTORS PICKING UP THE YARD WASTE AND OUR GARBAGE.

THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS THE INDEPENDENT YARD WASTE PEOPLE, LAWNMOWERS, TREE CUTTERS, THEY ARE HAULING THEIR WASTE BY THE TRUCKLOAD THROUGH FLAGLER STATES TO FLAGLER COUNTY.

THEY WANT TO ACROSS THE COUNTY LINE AND DUMP IT.

AND THEN THEY ARE COMING BACK OUTGOING AND GETTING ANOTHER LOAN. NOW, I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE AND I TOOK SOME PICTURES BUT THEN I BROUGHT MY CELL PHONE AND RUIN THEM. AND THERE IS JUNK CARS OUT THERE, AND JUNK TRUCKS, YARD WASTE, BOATS, OUTBOARD MOTORS AND HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE LAYING OUT THERE.

I HAVE BEEN TO FLAGLER COUNTY COMMISSIONS MEETING AND TALK TO THE SHERIFF IN THE ZONE MANAGEMENT PEOPLE.

AND THEY WANT TO SEND TO DEPUTIES TO FLAGLER STATES SO THEY CAN GO OUT THERE ON WEEKENDS.

AND I HAVE AGREED WITH IT. I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT. WILL PUT UP A SHED TO KEEP A COUPLE FOR WILLISON IS SO THEY CAN PATROL.

AND THINK OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO ENFORCE THE TRUCKS AND TRAILERS GOING OUT THEIR PART ESPECIALLY TRAILERS THAT DON'T HAVE A LICENSE PLATE ON IT. THEY NEED TO ENFORCE IT.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, SIR.

>> CHUCK, 1748 NORTH BOTERO. WE ARE IN THE COMMUNITY AND I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER SMITH AS WELL AS THE COUNTY STAFF FOR THE QUICK RESPONSE IN REGARDS TO THE YARD WASTE PICKUP. WE HAVE MAJOR ISSUES IN THERE AND EVERYBODY HAS TO CALL IN, WHICH DOES IT MAKE ANY SENSE THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO CALL IN AND THEY WON'T TAKE THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. I'M STILL WAITING FOR A RESPONSE BACK FROM THEM. IN REGARDS TO THE ISSUE.

WE ARE TRYING TO SAY THEM THE NUMBER OF PHONE CALLS BUT IS 959 HOMES IN THE COMMUNITY. IN THE PUBLIC AND NOT STEP UP ENOUGH PEOPLE TO TAKE ALL THE SCHOOLS.

AGAIN, THE ONLY THING I ASK IS COMMUNICATION BETWEEN REPUBLIC AND THE HOMEOWNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

>> IF YOU COULD HAVE SOMEONE IN YOUR TEAM GET WITH HIM? OKAY. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. GOOD MORNING, SIR.

>> MY NAME IS ROBERT HEINZ. ADDRESSES 316 ST. JOHN'S GULF DRIVE. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THE LATENESS OF THE PICK UP A YARD WASTE IS NOT JUST AN INCONVENIENT . AND POEMS TRIMMED ON THE FOURTH OF THE MONTH THERE THAT IS A WEDNESDAY BECAUSE OUR PICKUP DATE IS THURSDAY BUT EXPECTED TO BE PICKED UP ON THE FIFTH WITH NUMEROUS PHONE CALLS I MADE THE SOLID WASTE.

BOTTOM LINE, THE YARD WASTE WAS PICKED UP YESTERDAY.

AS A RESULT, THE FRONT PART OF MY YARD, MY LAWN, IS WASTED.

I HAD PICTURES I PROVIDED TO COMMISSIONER SMITH TO SHOW THE

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CONDITION OF MY YARD. AND IS GOING TO COST ME A LOT OF MONEY TO RESTORE THAT. IS NOT JUST AN INCONVENIENCE WAITING FOR THE WORK TO BE DONE, BUT IT IS COSTLY BESIDES THE INVESTIGATING. SPOKE FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 1? FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU. HOPE YOU AND YOUR TEAM WOULD CONTINUE TO MAKE THOSE EFFORTS. OU HAVE HEARD SOME COMMENTS TODAY. PLEASE HAVE YOUR TEAM AND THIS GENTLEMAN AS WELL. SAME FOR OUR TEAM WITH THE

COUNTY. >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY MAKE A COMMENT.FOR MR. BRINKLEY, YOU MAY BE DOING THIS TO SOME EXTENT ALREADY ON SOME ISSUES, BUT MIRABELLA CERTAINLY ONE SUBDIVISION. THERE ARE A LOT HOA IS IN THE COUNTY, THE COMMUNITIES, I THINK THERE IS A HANDFUL OF MANAGEMENT COMPANIES THAT DO THOSE.

IN OTHER WORDS, I THINK IT WOULD BE IDEAL IF THE BULK OF HOA AND COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTY GET THE SORT OF THE SAME COMMUNICATION. I WANT TO EXPAND THAT.

>> JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH HOA SEER. AND TRYING TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT TO THEM AND PUT SOME CONTAINERS HELD.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH IT BACK.

>> PLEASE GIVE MR. HEINZ. THANK YOU.

[2. Public Hearing * COMPAMD 2020-02 Adler Creek (Transmittal). Transmittal hearing for COMPAMD 2020-02 Adler Creek Comprehensive Plan Amendment to change the Future Land Use Map designation from Rural/Silviculture (R/S) and Parks and Recreation to Residential-C and Conservation (CV) with a Text Policy Amendment limiting the residential dwelling units to 1,682 for approximately 733 acres. There is no non-residential proposed with this amendment. The property is located east of Pacetti Road, south of Scaff Road and west of the future CR 2209 (St. Johns Parkway). The Planning and Zoning Agency recommended the proposed amendment be transmitted with 4-2 vote. The Agency discussed the construction of CR 2209, Adler Creek Parkway, density of the project in relation to the surrounding area, and drainage in the area.]

ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE BOARD OKAY, THINK IT.

WE WILL MOVE INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, A PUBLIC HEARING ON COMPLIMENT 2020 Ã02 ADLER CREEK FOR TRANSMITTAL.

GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIR: COMMISSIONERS, GOOD TO SEE YOU THIS MORNING.

ELLEN AVERY-SMITH 100 WHAT STONE PLACE SAINT AUGUSTINE.

AND I AM HERE FOR THE ADLER CREEK COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION. BEFORE I GET STARTED BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION IN THE AUDIENCE, THIS PROPERTY I'M GOING TO FLIP TO IS OWNED BY THE PACETTI FAMILY.AND SOME MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY ARE HERE IN CASE ANY QUESTIONS COME UP FOR THEM.

ALSO, THE CONTRACT WHERE PURCHASER IS EASEL AND DEVELOPMENT LANCASTER AND JOHN DODSON ARE HERE FROM EASTLAND IN CASE THEY NEED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WE ALSO HAVE BRAD DAVIS WHO IS THE PROJECT PLANNING AND ENGINEERING FIRM. JASON MILTON FROM BIOTECH, WHICH IS THE PROJECT ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTING FIRM.

AND THEN RUSSIA FROM SINGULAR TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS IN CASE ANY TRAFFIC ISSUES,. WE HAVE OUR WHOLE TEAM TO ANSWER WITH OTHER TECHNICAL QUESTIONS I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION.

BY WAY OF BACKGROUND THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF STATE ROAD 16 AND EAST THE PACETTI ROAD.

THIS IS THE TURNBULL CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OR THROUGH THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY OR THE PROPERTY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS 733 ACRES.

WE ARE HONESTLY LEFT THE PACETTI HOMESTEAD, WHICH IS ABOUT 20 ACRES OUT OF THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT. WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND FILE A SMALL PLANET COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENT FOR THE PACETTI HOMESTEAD. AGAIN, ON THIS MAP IT 733 ACRES, NOT 753 ACRES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY THE SUBJECT OF THIS APPLICATION. AGAIN, THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TRANSMITTAL HERE IN THE PROPOSAL IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS TO BOTH CONSERVATION THE DIMENSION TURNBULL CREEK EARLIER.

AND SO 131 ACRES OF THE 733 WILL BE PUT IN THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR PRESERVATION AND RESIDENTIAL SEE WILL BE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THE OTHER 602 ACRES. THERE IS A COMPANION TEXT AMENDMENT, WHICH LIMITS THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MAXIMUM OF 1682 SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS. THIS AMENDMENT ALSO PROPOSES THE CONSTRUCTION OF A COLLECTOR ROAD TO THE PROPERTY TO CONNECT FROM STATE ROAD DOWN TO PACETTI ROAD BEREA THAT WILL INCLUDE IN APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE PORTION OF COUNTY ROAD 2209 S. THE STATE ROAD 16 THAT WILL CONNECT TO ANOTHER PUBLIC COLLECTOR ROAD THAT WILL BE CALLED ADLER CREEK PARKWAY THAT WILL CONNECT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PACETTI ROAD.

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ALSO WE ARE TALKING TO THE SCHOOL BOARD ABOUT THE DEDICATION OF 100 ACRE I SCHOOL SITE.HE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY IS ORAL SILVICULTURE.

YOU SEE THAT ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP HERE.

THEY ALSO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT FOR PARAMETERS WERE DEVELOPMENT TRENDS IN THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA WITH THE SAME JONES CRI. POCKETS OF RESIDENTIAL SEE AND BE IN A. THIS IS THE COUNTIES NOT ONLY TIME ROLE PARK BUT TURNBULL REGIONAL OFF-SITE MITIGATION AREA OVER THAT IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE COUNTY. AND IS A MIXED-USE DISTRICT.

ALSO, THIS LAND IS PART OF THE STAR FOR RANCH AND MITIGATION BANK AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER MITIGATION THAT RUNS DOWN IN THIS AREA. IS GOING TO THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE MAP WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL SEE FOR THE MOSTLY UPLAND PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WITH THE CONSERVATION LAND USE CODE DOWN THE EASTERN EDGE AND ITS ASSOCIATED WHAT LOOMS ARE WILL LIVE. YOU SEE MITIGATION BANKS COME DOWN TO THIS WILL FLOW FROM THE COUNTIES DOWN THROUGH TURNBULL CREEK AND DOWN THROUGH THIS MITIGATION BANK AS WELL.

TALKING ABOUT THE ROAD WEDE NETWORK, THE PROPOSAL FOR TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION IS TO BUILD A COUNTY ROAD.

THEY ARE TAKING ON THE FINANCIAL BURDEN OF BUILDING THIS ONE-MILE SEGMENT OF COUNTY ROAD 209 TO THIS LOCATION AND THEN BUILDING ANOTHER PUBLIC ROAD TO BE CALLED ADLER CREEK PARKWAY DOWN TO THE COUNTIES PROPERTY, DOWN TO THE ADLER CREEK PROPERTY TO CONNECT TO PACETTI ROAD.

THERE WILL ALSO BE SIGNALED AS ASIAN WHEN WARRANTED AT THE INTERSECTION OF STATE ROAD 16 AND 2209.

SO THE PROJECT PROPOSES TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT PERMIT AND CONSTRUCT ONE MILE OF THE COUNTY ROAD 2209.

THAT IS ABOUT 7.$4 MILLION COS .

THEN ALSO TO CONSTRUCT ANOTHER PUBLIC ROAD OF APPROXIMATELY THREE MILES LONG THAT WILL BE CALLED ADLER CREEK PARKWAY THROUGH BOTH OF THOSE ROADWAYS WILL BE TOO LINK COLLECTOR ROAD FOR THE COST OF ADLER CREEK PARKWAY IS 15.$5 MILLION BILLION SO THE TOTAL BUDGET CONSTRUCTION COST FOR THIS COLLECTOR ROAD, WHICH WILL AGAIN BE A COUNTY ROAD, IS ALMOST $23 MILLION.THERE WILL BE NO RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAYS OFF ADLER CREEK PARKWAY OR 2209. THIS IS A TRUE COLLECTOR ROAD.

SO THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN ADLER CREEK WILL ACCESS OFF ADLER CREEK PARKWAY AND WILL HAVE, I WILL CALL THEM SPINE ROADS, THAT RADIATE INTO THOSE DEVELOPMENT AREAS IN THOSE HOMES WILL BE SERVED WITH DRIVEWAYS OFF OFTHOSE LOCAL ROADS .ALSO ALONG THIS COLLECTOR ROAD THERE WILL BE A 12 FOOT MULTIPURPOSE PATH SO PEOPLE CAN RUN, BIKE OR WHATEVER ALONG THAT ROAD THE ENTIRE FOUR MILES.

WE CAN ALL JOIN INTO THAT HOPEFULLY ONE DAY.

AND AGAIN, BUT THESE ROADS WILL BE BUILT BY ADLER CREEK AND ADLER CREEK WOULD LIKE EITHER PRECEDED THE OR HOA TO HELP PAY THE COST OF MAINTAINING THESE ROADS WHITES AWAY.

SINCE MOST OF THE ROAD WILL RUN THROUGH ADLER CREEK.

AGAIN, GOING TO THE TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION, THE PROJECT IS TOLD ABOUT $5 MILLION.

WILL GET ABOUT HOLD UP FIVE VILLAGE DOLLARS AND PROPORTIONATE SHARE CREDIT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT BUT ALMOST $23MILLION IN ROADS . THAT GIVES CREDIT TO 33 PERCENT OF ADLER CREEK PARKWAY AND A PORTION OF COUNTY ROAD 2209 AT 100 PERCENT ORGAN THE ESTIMATED PROPORTIONED CHAIR FOR THE PROJECT BASED ON STAFF CALCULATIONS IS ABOUT 11.6 MILLION DOLLARS IT AGAIN, PAYING MORE THAN THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE. WITH RESPECT TO THE SCHOOL SITE, YOU WILL SEE IT CONNECTS TO STATE ROAD 16 ON THE EAST.

IT GOES THROUGH JUST NORTH OF THE STAR FOR RANCH.

THIS IS GRAND OAKS AND CONNECTS TO THE FUTURE QUARTER 2209 WHEN IT GETS EXTENDED DOWN TO 208. AND WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD ABOUT THE SITE.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SITE.

THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT TIMING WISE WHEN THEY CAN AFFORD TO BUILD ANOTHER HIGH SCHOOL PARIS THAT'S AN ONGOING DISCUSSION AND THAT SITE WILL BE HELD IN RESERVE TO THE SCHOOL BOARD UNTIL THEY MAKE THAT DECISION FOR AS LONG AS TWO YEARS.

THAT IS A PLEDGE ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER.

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AGAIN, THE HIGH SCHOOL SITE WILL BE RESERVED.

AND LOSS OF CONNECTION TO STATE ROAD 16 AND 2209 FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR BUT IN THIS PROJECT WILL PAY ABOUT 26.$5 MILLION IN SCHOOL PROPORTIONATE SCARE Ã SHARE AND SCHOOL IMPACT FEES.

AND GOING TO SHOW YOU HERE IS A PULMONARY CONCEPT PLAN TO REDUCE THE ADLER CREEK PARKWAY CONNECTING TO THE PROPERTY ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PACETTI ROAD SO IT CAN ACT AS A RELIEVER FOR THIS SECTION AND OTHERS WHO COME ONTO 08 AND DON'T WANT TO GO ALL THE WAY UP TO THE INTERSECTION OF 16 PACETTI ROAD AND IDP. SOMETIMES THAT INTERSECTION CAN BE CONGESTION, PARTICULARLY NOW THAT YOU HAVE TWO SCHOOLS.

ONE HIGH SCHOOL IN ONE K-8 AND THAT INTERSECTION.

YOU ALSO SEE THE PRESERVATION OF THE WETLAND ASSOCIATED WITH TURNBULL CREEK REDUCING THE PRESERVATION OF WETLANDS INTERIOR TO THE SITE AND YOU SEE THE DEVELOPMENT AREAS, WHICH WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE AS FAR AS BUFFERING FROM THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT EXIST ROOM SO ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE WE DISCUSSED THE 131 ACRES SET ASIDE IN THE CONSERVATION FUTURE LAND USE THAT WILL PRESERVE THAT CORRIDOR NOT ONLY FOR WETLANDS BUT FOR WILDLIFE IT ALSO, ANOTHER 90 OR SO ACRES WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE PRESERVED.

THERE ARE EXISTING ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES.

WE WON'T TALK ABOUT THE LOCATIONS BECAUSE THOSE NEED TO BE PROTECTED. BUT THEY WILL BEPRESERVED AS WELL WITHIN THE SITES . WE ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION DURING OUR COMMUNITY MEETING AND AFTERWARDS ABOUT DENSITY IN THIS REQUEST FOR RESIDENTIAL SEE THE REAL SO I POINT OUT AGAIN 130 ACRES ARE BEING SET ASIDE IN CONSERVATION LAND USE.

SO THAT CANNOT BE USED BY THE DEVELOPER FOR HOMES.

AND ALSO, THERE HAVE BEEN 90 ACRES WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION THAT ARE PRESERVED WETLANDS.

TAKING PORTIONS IN SETTING IT ASIDE TO MAKE A BETTER COMMUNITY.SO WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT AGAIN THE DENSITY AND OTHER AREAS. WE LOOKED AT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP A FEW MINUTES AGO AND YOU SAW HER SOME OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT PROPERTIESARE RESIDENTIAL BE . YOU SEE THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS. WE TALK ABOUT MARBELLA, WE TALK ABOUT GRAND LAKE. THIS IS THE PACETTI PROPERTY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. THIS IS THE IMMEDIATELY CONTIGUOUS NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU SEE IN BOTH OF THESE THAT DID THIS FULLY DEVELOPED. OF LOTS, STORMWATER PONDS AND THAT KIND OF THING BUT NOT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION LANDS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. AND THESE LANDS ARE TWO UNITS PER ACRE.E ARE TALKINGABOUT 3.3.3.4 UNITS PER ACRE , NET ACRE WITHIN ADLER CREEK.E HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO GOTTEN FOLLOW-UP EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH RESPECT TO GRAND LAKE IN THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO MY MAP HERE.

SO THIS IS GRAND LAKE. THIS IS THE GRAND LAKE COMMUNITY. YOU ALL KNOW THAT ALL PROJECTS.

BECAUSE IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE 35 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGES ALONG ALL THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PROPERTY. SO WE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WITHIN GRAND LAKE TALK ABOUT THEIR BUFFER BECAUSE THEY HAVE A 35 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE ON THEIR SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE. BUT THAT DEVELOPMENT EDGE HAS BEEN CLEARED. THERE IS NO VEGETATION IN IT.

SO WE TALK TO THEM ON THE ADLER CREEK SIDE, INCREASING THE ADLER CREEK DEVELOPMENT EDGE FROM 35 FEET TO 50 FEET.

SO THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 85 FEET BETWEEN THE HOMES AND GRAND LAKE IN ANY HOME AND ADLER CREEK.

IN LANCASTER HAS SPOKEN OR IS IN CONTACT WITH THE HOA ABOUT PROVIDING FUNDING FOR THEM TO PLANT PINE TREES OR SOME OTHER VEGETATION WITHIN THEIR 35 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE BECAUSE IT IS VACANT LAND. THE VEGETATION DOES NOT EXIST TODAY. WE ALSO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT NO INTERCONNECTION WITH EITHER GRAND LAKE BECAUSE THERE WAS ONLY MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND PROPOSED INTERCONNECTION. UNTIL WE TALK TO THEM ABOUT NO INTERCONNECTION BETWEEN GRAND LAKE AND ADLER CREEK.

ALL THE FOLKS ON SCAFFOLD WERE VERY CLEAR THAT THEY DID NOT WANT THE PROPERTY TO ACCESS SKAFF ROAD, WHICH IS A NARROW COUNTY ROAD. IS NOT UP TO COUNTY STANDARDS.

LINCOLN, ADLER CREEK AGREED NOT TO CONNECT DOWN SKAFF ROAD IN ANY MANNER.SINCE A COMMUNITY MEETING WE HEARD FROM A COUPLE

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OF RESIDENTS ALONG STAFF ROAD AND WANT TO BE CLEAR WITH THEM TODAY IF THEY ARE HERE THAT THERE WILL BE THAT 50 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE THAT WILL GO ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY. NOT JUST ADJACENT TO GROUND LAKE, BUT ADJACENT TO THOSE Ã I'M GOING TO CALL THEM THE HORSE FARMS ON SKAFF ROAD. SO THEY WILL BE MORE BUFFERED TO PROVIDE BETTER CONSISTENCY AND COMPATIBILITY WITH ADLER CREEK. AND THEN I THINK MORGAN OLDS IS IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY AND SHE WILL COME UP TO SPEED.

SHE HAS HAD DRAINAGE PROBLEMS, APPARENTLY.

SO MR. LANCASTER TOLD HER YOU WILL MEET HER OUT ON THE SITE.

AND IF HE CAN HELP HER WITH WHATEVER DRAINAGE PROBLEM SHE IS EXPERIENCING FOR HER HORSE FORM THAT HE WILL DO SO WITHIN THAT PROJECT. AGAIN, TRYING TO TAKE WHAT WE HEARD AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING AND TRANSLATING IT INTO BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR. I GUESS THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT. AS FAR AS THE ECONOMIC SO WE CAN GO INTO THIS IN MORE DETAIL IF YOU LIKE PER THE TOTAL ESTIMATED IMPACT FEES. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT NOT ONLY ROAD IN SCHOOL, BUT FIRE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IS ABOUT 34.2 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS PROJECT FOR THE ESTIMATED PROPERTY TAXES ASSUMING OF HOME VALUE OF $312,000 IS ABOUT 4.$8 MILLION PER YEAR FOR THE COUNTY.

THAT IS ONLY THE LOCAL TAXES FOR THE COUNTY ROADS AND THE LOCAL SCHOOLBOARD . NOT ANY OF THE STATE RELATED TAXES OVER THE PROJECT PUBLIC BENEFIT.

AGAIN, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION.

WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT IT IF YOU WANT TO.

BUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF A REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT ROAD THAT WILL RELIEVE TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON PACETTI ROAD AT ITS INTERSECTION WITH STATE ROAD 16 AND I GP.

THE DEDICATION OF 100 ACRES SCHOOL SITE TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SUBJECT TO THE SCHOOL BOARDS APPROVAL OF THAT.

AND AGAIN, WE'VE SEEN THE LOCATION OF THAT SITE.

IT'S NOT WITHIN ADLER CREEK. IT IS NEAR ADLER CREEK.

AND SO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON SKAFF ROAD WERE ANY OF THE OTHER SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE NOT DEALING WITH 100 ACRE HIGH SCHOOL SITE WITHIN THE PROJECT WITH THIS APPLICATION.

THAT WAS A PRIOR APPLICATION. ADLER CREEK IS COMMITTING THE SAME JONES UTILITY SYSTEMS DILUTE THE UTILITY SYSTEMS, WHICH IMPROVES THE FIRE FLOW AND SAFETY FOR THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORS. THERE WILL BE THE MULTIPURPOSE PATH ALONG THE ENTIRETY OF THE COLLECTOR ROAD, WHICH WILL BE FORT MICHAEL'S OF RECREATION TRAIL THROUGH THE PRESERVATION OF THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL AREAS, THE PRESERVATION OF 220 ACRES OF WETLANDS WITHIN THE PROJECT WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN THE PACETTI LAND IS HEAVILY TIMBERED.

THEY COULD TEMPER THE PROPERTY IF THEY WANTED TO.

SO THIS WILL PROTECT THE TIMBER PORTION WITHIN THOSE WETLAND AND ASSOCIATED UPLAND AREAS. THERE WILL BE A PRESERVATION OF APPROXIMATELY 100 ACRES OF FLOODPLAINS STILL PREVENT FLOODING WITHIN THIS ENTIRE BASIN.

MY COMMITMENT TO THE WATER CONSERVATION IN THE TEXT.

THE PRESERVATION OF ABOUT HALF OF THE PROPERTY IS OPEN SPACE.

HABITAT SIGNIFICANT NATURAL HABITAT, WILDLIFE HABITAT ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITE TO WETLANDS AND THAT KIND OF THING.AND OBVIOUSLY PROPERTY TAXES AND OTHER REVENUE THAT WILL BE GENERATED BY THE PROJECT. SO AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE PROPERTY, WE ERRONEOUSLY LEFT OUT THIS PORTION OF THE LAND SO WE WILL BE COMING BACK IN FOR A SMALL SCALE COMBINES A PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION FORTHAT PROPERTY .

THAT IS A DEAL MADE WITH THE ADLER CREEK PURCHASER AND THE PACETTI FAMILY AND WE APOLOGIZE TO THE PACETTI FAMILY FOR THAT ERROR. SO AT PZA THE RECOMMENDED YOU TRANSMIT THIS APPLICATION TO DE OH AND THE STATE AGENCIES FOR THEIR REVIEW AND SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE VERY MUCH IF YOU WOULD VOTE TO TRANSMIT THIS APPLICATION TO THE STATE AGENCIES TODAY. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE HAVE THE WHOLE TEAM AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WITH OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. WE WILL GO TO LEGAL FOR.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRPERSON MS. SMITH, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SAID ECONOMIC IMPACT AND THEN AFTER THAT I THINK THERE WAS LIKE PUBLIC BENEFITS.

I THINK ONE MORE BACK EARLIER. STOP RIGHT THERE.

I WANT TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

AS YOU KNOW, FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT TRANSMITTAL OR APPROVAL, THE BOARD IS IN HIS LEGISLATIVE CAPACITY.

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AND MAY BROADLY USE ELEMENTS AND CONSIDERATIONS.

ON THIS SLIDE, THIS IS JUST FOR CLARIFICATION FOR THE BOARD.

ESTIMATED TOTAL IMPACT FEES COLLECTED.

AND THERE IS A FIGURE THERE. IS THAT YOUR REPRESENTATION THAT THOSE WILL ACTUALLY BE COLLECTED? IN THE ASK THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF FEES COLLECTED VERSUS FOR EXAMPLE USING CREDIT THAT MIGHT BE PURCHASED SOMEHOW WITH THAT TYPE OF THING. CAN YOU MAKE YOUR REPRESENTATION AT THIS TIME ABOUT IS THAT THE APPLICANTS REPRESENTATION TO THE BOARD THAT THESE ARE THE ESTIMATE COLLECTED VERSUS POTENTIALLY USING CREDITS FROM ELSEWHERE.

I DON'T MEAN CREDIT GENERATED BY THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.

LIVING CREDITS FROM OFF-SITE OFF OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

>> SO THIS IS THE SPREADSHEET THAT BACKS UP THE NUMBERS ON THE SCREEN PRINT IT ASSUMES, AND HERE YOU CAN SEE IMPACT FEES. THEY ARE BASED ON HOME SIZE 1820 500 SQUARE FEET. YOU SEE ROADS, BUILDING, LAW ENFORCEMENT FIRE RESCUE AND PARKS WITH 1682 UNITS.

HERE IS THE AVERAGE FEES AND HERE IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT BILLION YOU ALSO SEE THE LESS IMPACT FEE CREDITS AND THE NET ROAD REVENUE OF 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS IN PARIS AND ALSO THE $30,285,987 WERE CALCULATED. AND THE ESTIMATED PROPERTY TAXES WERE BASED ON THE VALUE OF A HOME IN GRANDE LAKES, WHICH IS THE ADJACENT PROJECT OF 317,000 AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT GENERAL FUND ROADS, LOCAL SCHOOL AND FIRE FOR 1682 UNITS WITH THE AVERAGE MILLAGE RATES. HERE IS THAT CALCULATION.

HERE IS THE IMPACT FEE CREDIT ANALYSIS FOR 2209 AND ADLER CREEK PARKWAY AND THE 100 PERCENT AND 33 PERCENT OF VALUATIONS AGREED TO WITH TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.

IN THE TOTAL IMPACT FEE CREDITS.

AND THAT IS ÃTHOSE ARE THE DOLLARS ASSOCIATEDWITH THAT

SLIDE . >> SPECIFICALLY MY QUESTION IS FOR THE $34 MILLION FIGURE. ND I SEE IT THERE.

THE PHRASE YOU USED IN YOUR POWERPOINT WAS COLLECTED.

AS THEIR ASSURANCE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE MONEY COLLECTED? OR WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE SOME OF THOSE, OTHER THAN ÃTHAT SOME OF THOSE INSTEAD ACTUALLY BEING COLLECTED WOULD BE REALLY SOMEBODY USING VOUCHERS FOR CREDITS FROM SOME OFF-SITE

PROJECT? >> NOT OFF SITE.

ADLER CREEK WILL BUILD $23 MILLION WORTH OF THAT COLLECTOR ROAD. THERE ARE IMPACT FEE CREDITS FROM THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD OF 12.$4 MILLION.

THEY WILL GET THAT AMOUNT IN ROAD IMPACT FEE CREDITS THAT WILL BE USED FOR THIS PROJECT. IF YOUR QUESTION IS WILL THEY BE BUYING OR GETTING IMPACT FEE CREDITS FROM ANOTHER PROJECT

OFF-SITE , NO. >> THAT WAS MY FIRST QUESTION.

IF I MAY, MY SECOND QUESTION. IF YOU COULD GO BACK UP TO THE PUBLIC BENEFITS SLIDE. WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THE SCHOOL, PROPOSED SCHOOL PROPERTY.

>> YES. >> RIGHT.

THERE'S A VALUE TO CONSTRUCT THE ROAD AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD INVOLVES ENGINEERING ON ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION ETC. BUT THE VALUE OF THE RIGHT TO WAIT ITSELF, THE LAND. THERE CAN BE SOME VALUE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT UNDERLYING LAND.

IN THE WITH THE ANGLICAN AT THIS TIME BE ABLE TO DESCRIBE TO THE BOARD HOW THAT WOULD BE EVALUATED BROKEN THE SAME QUESTION FOR THE 100 ACRE PUBLIC SCHOOL SITE.IS THE APPLICANT PREPARED TO DESCRIBE TO THE BOARD HOW THAT ACTUAL REAL ESTATE WOULD BE IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH IT MADE.

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THERE FOR GENERATED IMPACT FEE. SPOKE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THIS PORTION OF THE ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY IS A READY OWNED BY THE COUNTY, OBVIOUSLY. THIS PORTION OF THE ROAD IS A RIGHT-OF-WAY OWNED BY THE COUNTY.

THE PORTION OF THE ROOM THAT WILL BE WITHIN ADLER CREEK IS ROLLED SILVICULTURE IN LAND USE, AND UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO THAT IS THE EVALUATION. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY EVALUATION BASED ON THE RESIDENTIAL LAND USE IT IS THAT YOUR QUESTIONS WITH YES, THAT ANALOGOUS THE SCRIPTURE FOR THE

100 ACRE SCHOOL BOARD SITE? >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCHOOL BOARD MODEL, THE SCHOOL BOARD MODEL HAS AN EVALUATION PER ACRE OF $111,239 AN ACRE FOR SCHOOL SITE.

SO THAT IS PLUGGED INTO THE SCHOOL BOARDS MODEL ALREADY, REGARDLESS OF THE LAND USE OF THE PROPERTY.

OF THE SCHOOL BOARD ONCE 100 ACRE SITE, THAT THE VALUATION THAT WOULD BE PLUGGED IN PURSUANT TO THE SCHOOL BOARDS

MODEL. >> AND THAT IS A MODEL THAT YOU WOULD USE PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY, IS THAT CORRECT.

>> RECORD IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY THERE MAY BE A

DIFFERENT FIGURE. >> THAT'S A FIGURE IN THE

SCHOOL BOARD MODEL ALREADY. >> THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. >> LET'S GO TO THE BOARD NOW.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. >> I HAVE A COMMENT.

>>CHRISTIAN WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER DEAN QUICK.

>>HENRY DEAN: FIRST OF ALL, YOU TALKED IN PRETTY GOOD DEPTH ABOUT THE COST OF THE ADLER CREEK PARKWAY IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING ONE OF THINGS IS A COMMISSION WE ALWAYS LIKE TO CONSIDER I KNOW BECAUSE I HAVE EARNED OF THE COMMISSIONER SPRINGS UP REGULARLY IS THE TIMING.

AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE TIMING IS SUCH THAT THIS ADLER CREEK PARKWAY WILL BE COMPLETED AND CONCURRENTLY WITH THE FIRST INSTRUCTION OF THE FIRST HOMES THAT WOULD BE BILL BRITT AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THE DRILL FOR THE LAST NUMBER EIGHT YEARS THAT WOULD THE ROADS WOULD BE TRIGGERED WHEN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS WERE MET AND WE WILL GET UP TO 90 PERCENT OF THE UNITS.

WHATEVER REASON THERE'S NO MORE UNITS BUILT.

AND GOT 90 PERCENT OF THE ROAD PROBLEMS WITH ZERO RHOADES. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM ON THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND IT THE ROAD WILL BE CONSTRUCTED CONCURRENTLY WITH THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE FIRST SET OF HOMES, IF YOU WILL.

>> YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT BECAUSE I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THE PROJECT ROAD CONSTRUCTION WILL START AT STATE ROAD 16.

IT WILL COME SOUTH.OR THAT PORTION OF 22.09.

AND THEN COME THROUGH HERE TO THE PROJECT SITE.

THAT WILL BE THE WAY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF HOMES.

NO HOMES WILL BE BUILT UNTIL THIS ROAD IS CONNECTED THROUGH SO CONSTRUCTION CAN OCCUR WITHIN THE SITE.

IS HOMES ARE BEING BUILT THE PROJECT WOULD BE DEVELOPED FROM NORTH TO SOUTH. AND SO AT THE PROJECT IS BUILT THROUGH, THIS ROAD WILL CONTINUETO BE BUILT AND CONNECT

DOWN TO PACETTI ROAD . >> I WANT TO ADD THIS IS SORT OF A GRATUITOUS COMMENT. IN MY SODA FIRST LIFE DEALING WITH THE FLORIDA ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AN ADVOCAT OF SORT OF A TRADE-OFF OF RECOGNIZING WHERE YOU MIGHT INCREASE THE DENSITY SLIGHTLY AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ESSENTIAL WATER AND SEWER SERVICES AND THEN SET ASIDE LARGE TRACTS OF CONSERVATION LAND FOR WILDLIFE HABITAT, WILDLIFE CORRIDORS WITHIN THAT IS A POINT THAT I WILL BE BRINGING UP THIS FALL IN OUR WORKSHOP ON GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

I THINK THAT IS A CONCEPT THAT MOST ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS STRONGLY SUPPORT. IN THIS ONE I SEE REFLECTED IN THIS PROJECT. AND SO FOR THE RECORD I WANTED TO POINT OUT THOSE TWO THINGS. I THINK THOSE ARE POSITIVES THAT MAKE THIS PROJECT VERY DOABLE.

THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE BOARD? WHY DON'T WE OPEN THIS TO

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 2 ADLER CREEK. YES, SIR.

>> 1748 NORTH BUT CAROL AND WE ARE RIGHT ALONGSIDE THAT.

IT'S NICE THAT THE PUBLIC BENEFIT THEY WILL BE PUTTING IN A ROADWAY, BUT THERE IS ALSO THE CAUSE AND EFFECT.

THAT IS 3200 VEHICLES, OVER 3200 VEHICLES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON 16. 16 HAS BEEN PROMISED AND

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WHITENED SIX YEARS NOW AND STILL NOWHERE NEAR WHITENED PUBLIC MONEY IS BEING SPENT TO MAKE A TURN LANES FOR THE COMMERCIAL BREAK THAT IS ALL GOING TO BE TORN UP IF THE 60 WAS WHITE AND THE FOUR LANES. T WOULD BE NICE TO TAKE THIS MONEY AND PUT IT TOGETHER. GRAND OAKS AND ALL THE COMMUNITIES HAVE PUT INTO IT. AND WHITENED 16 NOW THE WRIT NOT AFTER THE FACT. THEY WOULD PUT THAT RODENT 16 IS GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE. HIS OVERCAPACITY NOW.

SPOKE FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM? IF THERE ARE OTHER ANY SPEAKERS, PLEASE COME UP AND FORM A LINE SO WE CAN MOVE AHEAD QUICKLY.

NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. >> MORGAN, 5005 SKAFF ROAD.

I LIVE ON THE HORSE FARM ON SKAFF ROAD THAT IS THE T-SHAPED PROPERTY RIGHT THERE. I SENT EMAILS OUT TO YOU GUYS WITH MORE DETAILED STUFF THAN I CANGET INTO IN THE THREE MINUTES . I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE DENSITY WHEN THE PROPOSED 980 HOMES THAT DIDN'T GO THROUGH A STUDENT'S PRINT REALLY IS NOW YOUR SITE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF 2209 I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERN SINCE WE DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHERE THE HOUSES WILL FALL WITHIN THE PARCEL.

IT SEEMS HARD TO ME TO CALCULATE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE GOING NORTH ON PACETTI INSTEAD OF GOING OVER TO 16 WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOUSES WILL BE IN THE SOUTHERNMOST PORTION OF THAT PARCEL.

I ALSO HAVE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT THE DRAINAGE.

I APPRECIATE AND THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH ME, BUT I AM ALSO REASONABLE SKEPTICAL BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN HOW WHEN GRAND LAKE WAS DEVELOPED HOW POORLY THE DRAINAGE HAS BEEN MAINTAINED TO THEIR AND THAT IS WHAT IS BECAUSE THE ISSUE I HAVE IN THE FIRST PLACE IT WHEN I HAVE A NEW DEVELOPER SAYING WE ARE GOING TO DO BETTER, WE ARE GOING TO DO THE OF KEEP, IT'S NICE TO HEAR. IN DIFFERENT THING AND PRACTICE. ESPECIALLY YEARS DOWN THE ROAD PORTON I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT WHILE I APPRECIATE THE MOVING TO CONSERVATION FOR THE PART THAT IS TURNED BUILT CREEK ON THE EAST, THEN WHEN YOU BUILD UP WHAT IS ON THE WEST WHICH IS CLOSE TO ME, IT'S STILL CHANGES THE PLANE.

IT CURRENTLY ALL GOES LIKE THIS IT IF WE HAD THIS BIG BUILT SUBSECTION HERE IN THIS IS PRESERVED, THAT DOESN'T HELPED ME VERY MUCH ON THE OTHER SIDE. I KNOW 2209 WILL BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE FUTURE. I KNOW IT IS ONE OF THE COUNTIES HIGHER PRIORITIES AND I REALIZE THAT THE DEVELOPERS OFFER IS NOT INSIGNIFICANT. BUT I STILL WOULD RATHER ÃWE CAN'T UNDEVELOPED THE LAND, WE CAN'T HAVE LESS HOUSES.

IF WE COULD WAIT UNTIL AFTER WE HAVE 2209 CONSTRICTED AND AFTER WE HAVE 16 WHITENED AND AFTER WE REALIZE WHAT THE ACTUAL IMPACT OF THE TRAFFIC WE ARE ALREADY DEALING WITH THIS, THEN WE COULD REVISIT THIS LATER AND TO HELP MORE CONCRETE, THIS IS HOW MANY HOUSES WE CAN HAVE IN THIS AREA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> CAN YOU COME UP HERE IN LINE SPOKE OF JOSEPH KENNY, CURRENTLY ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY ., 1711 BISHOP SAGE ROAD AND SEVEN MONTHS OF MY ACTIVE DUTY SERVICE ENDS WILL BE A 5005 SKAFF ROAD.

WITH THE ISSUE OF THE DRAINAGE, RIGHT NOW WITH GRAND LAKES THEY DO NOT MANAGE THEIR PORTION OF THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

DURING THESE PAST COUPLE MONTHS DURING THE WET SEASON IT'S TOO WET TO MOW GRASS OVER HALF THE DAYS IN THE WEEK RIGHT NOW.

THAT PUT US RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THE BE RESIDENTIAL IN THE C RESIDENTIAL BURIED ALL THAT LAND WILL HAVE TO GET RAISED UP AT THE HOUSES IN AND IT WILL PUT IS UNDERWATER.

MANAGING THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND THE FALLING OF THE PRIVATE COMPANIES, LIKE RIGHT NOW IT IS 9:00 ON A MONDAY MORNING, VACATION, PEOPLE HAVE TO TAKE TIME OFF WORK AND THAT IS A LEGAL BATTLE WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE WITH THEM WHEN WE ARE

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TRYING NOT TO STAY UNDERWATER AT THIS POINT.

WE HAVE HAD TO DIG IN DRAINAGE DITCHES AS WELL TO HELP KEEP THINGS DRY. IS A SMALL BUSINESS THEY ARE WHERE THEY BOARD HORSES. PEOPLE ROUTINELY TURNED AWAY BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS TOO WET TO SUPPORT THE AMOUNT HORSES THE PROPERTY WOULD OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IF IT WAS DRY AND A REASONABLE LEVEL OF DRAINAGE.

IT LOOKS TO ME, THEY ARE OFFERING YOU ONE WHILE OF CR 209, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED.

THEY WILL PAY FOR ONE WHILE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THIS AREA NEEDS AND IT WILL PUT US UNDERWATER. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THREE MINUTES ISN'T ENOUGH TIME TO GO INTO DETAILS AND BREAK DOWN BUT IT IS FRUSTRATING TO BE IN THE SITUATION TO BEGIN WITH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, PLEASE COME UP AND BE PREPARED TO SPEAK SO WE CAN MOVE ALONG AT A RELATIVELY GOOD PACE.

THANK YOU. NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> I LIVE AT 251 S. MATANZAS AND I OWN PROPERTY AT 3944 IN MARBELLA SOUTH DRIVE AND IN OWN THE PROPERTY THAT MY DAUGHTER WAS SPEAKING ABOUT WHERE THE HORSE FARM IS.

AND MY THEY CONCERN WHEN I GET THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING EARLIER IS ABOUT DRAINAGE. AND WE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. WE CAN SEE THE EFFECTS OF THE SURROUNDING GROWTH HAS CAUSED ON PROPERTY THAT DID NOT HAVE THE FLOODING PROBLEMS IT HAS NOW.

I FEEL LIKE THAT IS IMPORTANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT I KNEW THE BEFORE AND NOW I SEE THE MIDDLE.

NOT EVEN THE ACTOR.ECAUSE HIS OTHER SUBDIVISION WOULD BE EVEN HIGHER DENSITY THAN THE ONE THAT ADJOINS IS NOW.

I AM PLEASED TO SEE THE BUFFER EXTENDED BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP US. GRANDLY GARDY GIVES US SOME PROBLEMS IN TERMS OF KIDS OUT ON TRAMPOLINES BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO STOP KIDS FROM HAVING FUN, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THERE IS NO REAL BUFFER THE HORSES ARE FREAKED OUT WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THE SCREAMING CHILDREN JUMPING UP IN THE AIR AND THEY SEE THE HEADS COME UP AND THAT SORT OF THING.SO WE KNOW THE IMPACT OF HAVING BEEN COMPLETELY ORAL.

AND YOU KNOW THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE AND IT CAN'T BE UNREASONABLE ABOUT GROWTH. BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT SEEING IT AS IT DECLINES BECAUSE OF THE INTENSITY OF THE GROWTH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT BOTHERED ME THE PREVIOUS RECOMMENDED STEEPLECHASE WHEN THAT WAS UP FOR YOU TO CONSIDE . I REALLY HAD TROUBLE WITH THAT DENSITY AND IT WASN'T AS HIGH A DENSITY AS THIS PROPOSED ONE IS RED I CAN IMAGINE BASED ON WHAT I'M SAYING THAT THE WAY THEY ARE DEVELOPING THE LAND MAY HELP SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IN TERMS OF HOW THEY ARE GOING TO PUT IN THOSE HOMES. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

I THINK I HEARD THEM SAY NORTH TO SOUTH.

SO THAT MIGHT BE A SAVING GRACE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH IN TERMS OF HOW MANY ALLIGATORS WE WILL HAVE TO DIG OUT. I SHOULD'VE SENT THAT TO YOU ALL BECAUSE I HAVE MY DAUGHTER HOLDING THE ALLIGATOR THAT THE TRAPPER HAD TO COME GET IN THE PEOPLE NEXT DOOR HAVE AN ALLIGATOR AND I DON'T KNOW MY OTHER NEIGHBOR HAS ONE.

THERE WERE THREE ALLIGATORS WILL ROAMING AROUND NO ONE HAS

GOTTEN REHOME SOMEWHERE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SPOKE WITH CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

QUESTION ABOUT $34 MILLION COULD'VE BEEN ANSWERED WITH A YES OR NO. NUMBER TWO, THE PCA DID NOT VOTE UNANIMOUSLY FOR THIS TRANSMITTAL.

NUMBER THREE, THE PRESENTER RECEIVED 30 MINUTES TO SPEAK.

I DON'T WANT TO THINK THE RESIDENTS ARE COMING UP AND SPEAKING. THEY HAVE GOTTEN SO FAR 15 MINUTES. IN THE PRESENTER WILL GET ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE HERTEAM WILL BE UP HERE FOR THE

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REBUTTAL . ON SO MY RESPONSE TO THIS WILL BE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT THE RESIDENTS SAY AND WHAT THE PZA VOTED. DENY THE TRANSMITTAL.

>> THANK YOU. FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 2? I WANT TO THANK ALL THE SPEAKERS FOR PARTICIPATING AND APPROACHING THE PODIUM THIS MORNING TO SPEAK. WHICH MOVED THINGS ALONG A LITTLE QUICKER. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MR. VICE CHAIR. >> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, BEN AM GOING TO ADDRESS DENSITY.

AGAIN, THE REASON WE ARE PROPOSING THE RESIDENTIAL LAND USE IS BECAUSE THIS 131 ACRES IS BEING PLACED ON CONSERVATION LAND USE 90 ACRES WILL BE PRESERVED WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA UNDER THE DENSITY OF 1682 UNITS.

AGAIN, TRYING TO BALANCE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA IT ALSO WITH THE ADDITIONAL BUFFERING ON DEVELOPMENT EDGE OF 85 FEET WITH GRAND LAKES.

50 FEET ON THE ADLER CREEK SITE ALONG THE BOUNDARY TO HELP WITH THAT COMPATIBILITY NOT ONLY WITH GRANDLY GOING ON SKAFF ROAD. GOING TO HAVE MR. DAVIS,.

IS A CIVIL ENGINEER AND HE WILL TALK ABOUT DRAINAGE AND MR.

SHINGLER WILL TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC.>> OF MONEY.

BRAD DAVIS 13 901 PARK BOULEVARD SOUTH FLORIDA 33204.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING WHEN I THINK THE SPEAKERS AMONG MOST COURTEOUS SPEAKERS I HAVE EVER HEARD BEFORE MY LIFE. I APPRECIATE WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM. DEVELOPMENT DOES BRING CHALLENGES AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY DO HAVE CHALLENGES FROM THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER.HAT MR. LANCASTER COMMITTED TO DOING WHAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND PER YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS ANALYZE ALL ADJACENT PROPERTIES PER THE FIRST THING I WOULD DO. MR. LANCASTER IS ASKED ME TO DO IS LOOK AT THE TOPOGRAPHY ADJACENT AND SEE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY TO GET THE WATER FLOW INTO THE WEST WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO WHERE THERE'S A DRAINAGE DIVIDE, WHICH AT SOME POINT IN ANOTHER DRAINAGE DIVIDE WHICH PUSHES IT TOWARD THE WEST FOR THE VERY FIRST POINT ACTION IS TO DETERMINE WHETHER DRAINAGE DIVIDE IS AND HELP THEM WITH THAT.

TYPICALLY IS A LANDOWNER EVEN IN THE ROLE SECTION THEY DON'T HAVE OPPORTUNITY OR ACCESS TO EQUIPMENT LIKE WE HAVE DURING OUR CONSTRUCTION PHASES SO I REALLY DO BELIEVE WE CAN HELP THEM FIGURE OUT WHERE THE WATER IS SUPPOSED TO GO AND TAKE IT THAT WAY. IF IT IS WEST WE WILL HELP WITH THAT DITCH. IF THE DECEASED WE WILL CERTAINLY COLLECT THAT AND TAKE IT TO OUR MASTER SYSTEM AND MAKE SURE IT GETS TO DURING THE DAY.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR THE STATEGUIDELINES .

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> MR. DAVIS, OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THESE LANDOWNERS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR SOME TIME. IN THIS GRAND LAKE PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED MORE RECENTLY. NOT TOO LONG AGO IT WAS FARMLAND. THAT DRAINAGE WAS MAINTAINED BY FORMER REAGAN FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, THERE'S A LACK OF MAINTENANCE THAT OCCURRED AND YOU ARE WILLING TO GO IN AND CLEAN IT.UT I THINK WHAT I HEARD BEFORE IS THERE IS SOME LONG-TERM EFFECTS OF NOT MAINTAINING A SYSTEM.

AND YOUR SYSTEM WILL BE MAINTAINED.

WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE CDD ETC. WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU MAY GO IN AND DO IT AND THE STOMA MAINTENANCE OF THAT PARTICULAR SYSTEM. ESPECIALLY IF IT HAS TO GO TO THE WEST. THAT IS WHAT I THINK WE HAVE A CONCERN WITH HIS SOME FOLKS RECOGNIZING SOME OF THE SYSTEMS ARE NOT BEING MAINTAINED LIKE THEY WERE IN THE PAST AND THAT IS WHAT IS CREATING THE OTHER PROBLEMS.S THAT SOMETHING YOU OBSERVED OR ARE YOU GOING TO LOOK INTO?

>> I COULD BE WRONG, BUT THEY LIVE HERE AND KNOW IT INTIMATELY. WITH THE STUDY OF TOPOGRAPHY IT HELPED. BASED ON MY ANALYSIS, THE WATER USED TO DRINK SOUTH ON THE GRAND LAKE BUT WHEN GRAND LAKE CAME THEY DIDN'T OBSERVE THE OFF-SITE AREAS THAT CAME ONTO THE PROPERTY. ESSENTIALLY THE WATER HAS NOWHERE TO GO EXCEPT STAGING THE AREA.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS A SYSTEM NECESSARILY.

I THINK IT WAS AN EXISTING SITUATION SO TO SPEAK WITH TOPOGRAPHY AND WETLANDS IN THE AREAS AROUND THERE AS WELL THAT HOLD WATER THAT PROBABLY MORE ABLE TO TAKE THAT AS WELL.

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MR. SMITH, I THINK WHAT WOULD BE BEST IS TO LOOK AT TOPOGRAPHY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND SEE IF WE COULD GET THE WATER TO GO WEST. WILL NOT GO SOUTH ANYMORE BASED ON THAT DEVELOPMENT. AND SO LET'S GET IT TO GO WEST.

IF WE CAN'T, WE HAVE TO ACCEPT IT AND WEWILL HAVE LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT FROM THAT.> THANK YOU MR. DAVIS, APPRECIATE IT .

>> ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE BOARD?

>> MR. SHINGLER IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC.

>> I HAVE A BIG COFFEE AND WHATEVER ONE WORKS FOR YOU.

EITHER ONE. SPOKE FOR THE RECORD, TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS 83 JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA.

I HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT STATEMENT 16 STATUS OF THE WHITENING EFFORT. WE ALL KNOW THAT PROJECT IS A MEDICATION FOR THE GRAND OAKS PROJECT CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN BASED ON THE TIMELINE WE SEE, YOU CAN SEE THE STATEMENT 16 THE CONSTRUCTION SHOULD BE EITHER COMPLETED AT THE SAME TIME THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARKWAY WHICH WOULD BE WELL UNDERWAY BY THE TIME WE REACH A LOT OF THE HOMES WITH THE PROJECT AS WELL. WE UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE IS CURRENTLY BEING ONE. IS PERMITTED TO THE DOD.

THAT IS DESIGNED THAT IS BEING DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED.

>> BASED ON THE CLIENTS PERFORMER, YOU CAN SEE THE ADOPTION RATES WILL BE WELL SPREAD TOWARD 10 AND 12 YEARS IN EARLY 2024. THE RIGHTNESS OF THE COMPLETED ARE UNDERWAY THROUGH THE GRAND OAKS PROJECT.

ARE PROPER IN 229 WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WESTART .

WE WON'T BE ABLE TO BUILD ANY HOMES UNTIL WE BUILD 2209 AND PARKWAY FROM THE NORTH. WE ARE NOT GOING TO ADD ANY TRAFFIC UNTIL THE CONNECTION IS COMPLETE.

AND ONCE THAT CONNECTION IS COMPLETE, THE REGIONAL TRAFFIC, OTHER TRAFFIC, NOT TRAFFIC WHILE THE BENEFIT TO USE TO GET ON TO 16. BY THAT TIME THE WHITENING INTERSECTION BY GP AND STATE ROUTE 16 COMPLETED AND THE INTERCHANGE AT 95 COMPLETED BY THE DOD.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> WE WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER NEXT.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. DO YOUR MODELS SHOW THE 13,954 DAILY TRIPS WILL BE GOING NORTH AND EAST ON 16?

>> ONCE IT GETS TO 16 THERE IS A SPLIT.

THEY WILL GO EAST AND WEST. JUST NOT ONE DIRECTION.

>> YOUR MODEL HAS THE TRAFFIC SPLITTING.

>> SPLITTING ON STATE ROAD. >> ON ADLER CREEK PARKWAY IN THE MODEL SHOWS A BIG DROP BECAUSE THAT IS A REGIONAL FACILITY AND IT IS A MAJOR ROA .

TRAFFIC TOWARD STATEMENT 16 ONTO THE MAJORITY.

THERE IS SOMETRAFFIC ONCE A CONNECTION HAPPENS , BUT THAT IS COMPATIBLE TO TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING TO GO WHAT YEAR IS A

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STATE ROAD 16 WHITENING TO BE COMPLETE.

>> THEY SHOULD BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION ANYTIME SOON THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS WOULD DOD SO ONCE THE PRODUCT IS APPROVED, I THINK THE TIMELINE IS 2 TO 3 YEARS TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION IN THE UNITS UNTIL IT IS LISA CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON.

>> IN THIS PROJECTS NOT DUE TO BE COMPLETE BEFORE 2033.

>> THAT IS THE VERY LAST. >> THE LAST UNITS WOULD BE

ONLINE. >> THAT IS GREAT.

WE HAVE 180 UNITS PER YEAR. SO GIVE-AND-TAKE ABOUT NINE OR

10 YEARS APPROXIMATELY. >> THANK YOU.

>> WE WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER WALTER.

>>PAUL WALDRON: I KINDA WANTED TO BRING THIS TO THE BOARDS ATTENTION. I THINK IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS WE SHOULD SEE WHAT IMPACT FEES WE HAVE TONIGHT ALL THE WAY TO A NATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY. WE MOVE FORWARD ABOUT DOING THE ENGINEERING TO BUILD 2209 SO IT WILL BE NEEDED.

TO THE ONE-MILE AND GET THAT DONE IN INTERNATIONAL GULFPORT DAY AT THE SAME TIME. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IMPACT FEE CREDITS OR IMPACT FEE FOR ZONES.

WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. >> GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS ARE IN TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. SO IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE ALLUDING TO IS THE SEGMENT HER .

GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE. YESTERDAY WE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH GREG CALDWELL FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND OUR COUNTY ENGINEER AND I . WE WERE LOOKING AT THE FUNDING COMPONENT FOR THAT.E ARE CURRENTLY WE HAVE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS ON 16 SO WE CAN UTILIZE THE EXISTING PEPIN ON THE WEST SIDE APPROACH. BUT THAT IS GOING TO BE ABOUT $67 MILLION TO DO THAT SO WE CAN UTILIZE THE PAVEMENT ON THE WEST SIDE. WE ARE STRONGLY THINKING TO SCALE THE PROJECT DOWN SO WE CAN BUILD A FOUR-LANE APPROACH IS A SAFETY PROJECT FOR THEM SO THAT WAY WE CAN STILL UTILIZE THE PAVEMENT ON THE WEST SIDE. AND ALLOCATE THE REMAINDER OF THE MONEY AND SHIFTED TO THIS CONNECTION BETWEEN 16 AND I GP.

AND WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IS WE ARE GOING TO DESIGN FOR LANE AND CONSTRUCT TWO LANE PORT CURRENTLY WE HAVE $4 MILLION ALREADY AND WE ARE STILL EVALUATING THE SEE HOW MUCH WE CAN PULL FOR THE EXISTING INTERSECTION OF THE PROJECT AND THERE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN FOR THEM BUT BY 24 WE WOULD HAVE $9 MILLION IN ORDER TO DO THAT. SO WE ARE LOOKING INTO DOING THAT PARIS AND I SPOKE LAST WEEK WITH JIM AT DOT.

HE HAS PROMISED ME TO PROVIDED PRELIMINARY DESIGN IN 6 TO 10 WEEKS TO LOOK AT HOW MUCH IT COSTS.

MEET THE QUANTITIES IN ORDER TO NARROW DOWN THE COST ON THAT SEGMENT. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT ALREADY.

BUT WE COULD BASICALLY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER THAT, THAT IS UP TO YOU.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME.

AND IS NOT FAIR TO RESIDENTS TO TEAR IT UP ONE DAY AND WE REDO IT AND WE ARE ALL UNDER CONSTRUCTION AGAIN.

BUT I THINK THAT IS A PRESENTATION THAT THIS IS TRANSMITTED THAT WE WOULD NEED AT THE TIME OF REMOVAL.

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WE NEED TO FIND A FUNDING MECHANISM.

>> WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND IF WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT 2209, THEY'RE BASICALLY CONSTRUCTED ON VACANT LANDS WITH LITTLE IMPACT TO ADJACENT RESIDENTS.

>> IS AND WILL COOPERATE WITH THE COUNTY IN ANY WAY IT CAN ON THE SEGMENT OF 2209. ALSO THESE CALCULATIONS WE PUT UP EARLIER, THERE IS 2.$5 MILLION ALSO FROM ADLER IN ADDITION TO BUILDING THE ROAD THAT WILL COME IN AS ADDITIONAL ROAD IMPACT FEES FOR IT IS OR NOT YOU CAN ADD THAT TO THE POT

SO TO SPEAK. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT SPLIT OF TRAFFIC ON STATE ROAD 16? BASED ON THE MODEL ANALYSIS WE SEE ABOUT 40 PERCENT THAT GOES TO THE REST AND ABOUT 37 PERCENT GOING TO THE EAST ON

STATE ROUTE 316. >> OKAY.

ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU. I WILL JUST NOTE I APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS WHO CAME UP EARLIER THIS IS ACTUALLY A TRANSMITTAL HEARING MEETING THIS IS NOT A FINAL APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT. THE VOTE TODAY IT WOULD BE TOO TRANSMIT TO TALLAHASSEE WHERE THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL REVIEW BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA. HOPEFULLY LOOKING AT TRAFFIC, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS FOR IT WHATEVER HAPPENS IS NOT FINAL APPROVAL.NE MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WILL BE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO WEIGH IN AND PROVIDE INPUT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT TODAY. COMMISSIONER SMITH?HAT CAN I MOVE THIS IF YOU WANT, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> PLEASE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE TRANSMITTAL OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN USE AMENDMENT TO 30002 ADLER CREEK COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED ON FINDING.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH.THE COMMISSIONER DEAN AND WALDRON.

THAT WAS A TIGHT. LET ME GIVE THAT TO COMMISSIONER WALDRON BRICK MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? CINQ NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

[Items 3 & 4]

THAT PASSES 5/0. THIS MATTER WILL BE BACK UP FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS REVIEWED IT.

NOW WE ARE MOVING TO AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER THREE AND FOUR BUT AGENDA ITEM ÃI BELIEVE THESE WILL BE HEARD TOGETHER.

AGENDA ITEM FOUR IS THE QUASIJUDICIAL BUT WHY DON'T WE START WITH OUR DISCLOSURES FOR THAT.

COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> I HAVE NONE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> NONE.

>> COMMISSIONER WALTER. >> NONE.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >> NONE.

>> I HAVE KNOWN AS WELL. GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING GOOD KAREN TAYLOR 77 SARAGOSSA STREET BUT I AM HERE FOR THE SIX MILE CREEK OUTPOST CONFERENCE AND PLAN AMENDMENT AND PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

WITH ME OR TO KNOW THE OWNERS NAME SHELLEY AND ANDY STEPHENSON. AND OUR CIVIL ENGINEER FROM MATTHEWS DESIGN IF WE GET INTO SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING SPECIFICS OF THE PROJECT. THIS IS THE LOCATION.

FOR THOSE OF YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, THIS IS NEXT TO BUDDY BOYS. COUNTY ROAD 16 NORTH JOASH AND ROAD. AND UC SIX MILE CREEK.

THE ADJACENT USES ARE BASICALLY WE HAVE THE VACANT WETLANDS ALONG SIX MILE CREEK PREMIUM SINGLE FAMILY DOWN TO ASHTON ROAD AND FARM FIELDS ACROSS THE ROAD THE PROPERTY THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT OWNERSHIPS MR. SHELLEY OWNS A PORTION OF THAT MR. STEVENSON AND HIS PARTNER ON THE OTHER PORTION.

UNTIL THE PORTION, HE IS IN THIS AREA HERE AND THE PORTION THE OTHER TWO GENTLEMEN OWN IS DOWN HERE.

THIS IS BUDDY BOYS AND YES, MR. SHELLEY ALSO OWNS BUDDY BOYS.

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THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE AREA AND THIS IS A BROAD VIEW.

TO SHOW YOU THE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT LAND USE TYPE THINGS.

TO POINT OUT THAT HAVE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES IN THEM, YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE NUMBER OF THOSE.

THERE IS A LOT OF PROPERTY THAT IS WETLANDS THAT ISN'T DEVELOPED AND WILL BE DEVELOPED THROUGH EVEN AGRICULTURAL WHICH IS ACROSS FROM THIS PARTICULAR SITE.

WE DO HAVE A MAJOR DRI AND RESIDENTIAL A, B, C AND OF COURSE THE DRI IS RESIDENTIAL AS WELL.

AND SOULFUL FOR A COMMERCIAL AREA TO BE CLOSED ALL THAT RESIDENTIAL. WE BRING THAT IN CLOSER.

THE BUDDY BOY SITE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGNATION AND ALREADY HAS THAT. AROUND IN SEVERAL SILVICULTURE AND THE AGRICULTURE. AS FOR ZONING, THIS IS THE NORTHWEST SECTOR SO EVERYTHING HAS TO BE MPUD.

ANY REZONING IS A PUD. OPEN ROLE IS STILL UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY AS WELL. COMING IN CLOSE WE CAN SEE THAT THE SITE IS OR. THERE IS A SMALL PSD ACROSS THIS FISH CAMP ROAD. AND A LARGE PRD THAT IS NEVER BEEN DEVELOPED ON THE FISH CAMP ROAD AS WELL.

THIS BRINGS IT IN CLOSER AND GIVES YOU AN IDEA SITE AERIAL OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AGAIN, WE HAVE BUDDY BOYS HERE FOR THIS PORTION OF THE SITE IS UNDEVELOPED WERE THERE IS A HILL TO THAT, ACTUALLY. WE DO HAVE A PORTION OF THE WETLANDS INCLUDED IN THIS. THIS PORTION ANDY AND HIS PARTNER OPERATE THAT WAY THE SITE PLAN AND A SITE PLAN HAS BEEN DIVIDED INTOTWO DEVELOPMENT AREAS BECAUSE THESE ARE TWO INDIVIDUAL OWNERSHIPS . THIS IS TO POINT OUT THAT WE DO HAVE THE 35 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE.

WE HAVE THE SCENIC EDGE, 30 FOOT SCENIC EDGE.

BECAUSE WE ARE A LONG 13, WHICH IS PART OF THE SCENIC HISTORIC I WAIT, THAT INCREASES TO 30 FEET AND IT ADDS ADDITIONAL STANDARDS FOR PLANTINGS AND THINGS THAT RELATE TO THAT AS WELL. WE HAVE A PRESERVED, IT IS HARD TO SEE ON THIS. THE PRESERVED UPLAND BUFFER.

AND IN THIS CASE YOU HAVE A 25 FOOT, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL 25 FOOT UPLAND BUFFER BUILDING SETBACK AS WELL.

. THAT KINDA GOES BACK TO SHOW YOU THE OWNERSHIP, WHICH WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE END THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE SITE THAT THERE IS ACROSS THE EASEMENT AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE CROSS EASEMENT THAT WILL FLOW THROUGH THESE TWO SITES. DEVELOPMENT AREA A IS PLAN FOR 11,000 SQUARE-FOOT RETAIL OFFICE SPACE.

THAT WOULD BE AT THE TOP OF THE HILL HERE.

THERE IS A COMMUNITY SPACE SHARED BY EVERYBODY IN THE CENTER OF THAT PARTICULAR SITE. HE IS PROVIDING FOR SELF STORAGE IN THE REAR THAT WOULD BE BEHIND THE BUILDING.

AS A NOTE, THERE IS A WAIVER FOR THE SELF STORAGE.

THERE IS A LIMITATION IN THE CODE REGARDING SELF STORAGE SHOULD NOT BE ALONG THE SCENIC HIGHWAY.

BUT IN THIS CASE WE ARE SHOWING IT IS ACTUALLY BEHIND THE OTHER BUILDINGS. SO THEY ARE REALLY NOT GOING TO BE SEEN. IS PERPENDICULAR TO THE STREET AS BLOCKED. IN THE OPENINGS, GARAGE DOORS WILL NOT BE FACING ANY STREET. AND WE AGREED TO USE THE SAME ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AS A RETAIL BUILDINGS SO THAT IT ALL LOOKS COHESIVE AS WELL. AND AGAIN, THIS IS A BETTER VIEW OF THE UPLAND BUFFER ALONG HERE, WHICH IS AVERAGED AS WELL AS THE 25 FOOT SETBACK. THIS IS DEVELOPMENT AREA BE.

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AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE DEVELOPMENT.

THEY PLAN TO KEEP THEIR GENERAL STORE OPERATING.

THEY HAVE A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AND ACCESSORY TO THAT ONE THERE IS ACTUALLY MORE THAN THAT ON THE SITE.

AND THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW UNPAVED STABILIZED PARKING, WHICH THEY ARE PLANNING TO MAINTAIN. THEY DON'T PLAN TO ADD ANYTHING HERE THERE ARE REALLY NICE BIG TREES AND THERE AND THINGS THAT THEY HAVE WORKED AROUND .

BUT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD A BOAT AND RV STORAGE AND THAT HAS BEEN TALKED INTO THE AREA THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO USE FOR IT AND NOT AFFECT A WHOLE LOT OF THE TREES.

THEY DO WANT THE ABILITY IN THE FUTURE TO PROVIDE FOR REPLACING THE GENERAL STORE IF THAT GOES AWAY OR BECOMES UNPOPULAR.

OF COURSE THE OPENING OF THE LOCAL HARDWARE STORE HIT THEM A LITTLE BIT AS WELL BUT WE DO HAVE ONE WAIVER ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR SITE. THERE'S A 35 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE ALONG JOE ASHTON ROAD. IS ALSO A REQUESTS FROM THE COUNTY WE CAN PROVIDE FOR RESERVE RIGHT AWAY BY 15 FEET.

AND SO THE REQUEST IS THE 15 FEET BE A PART OF 35 FEET, WHICH WOULD HAVE COURSE REDUCE THAT TO A 20 FOOT IN THE FUTURE. AND THAT IS IN CASE WE HAVE QUESTIONS WANT TO COME BACK AND WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO ASK THEM. ON A FEW SITES FOR THIS IS JOE ASHTON FOR THIS IS GOING TO THE GENERAL STORE.

AND GO IN BACK INTO THAT SITE. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE TREES. THIS IS THE GENERAL STORE.

THAT IS ONE LITTLE HOUSE THERE. THAT HOUSE WILL END UP BEING GONE. THERE IS ANOTHER HOUSE, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT WILL REMAIN IN A GARAGE THAT WILL ALSO REMAIN.

AND THERE IS A PATHWAY WHERE DRIVEWAY THERE AND THAT IS SHARED WITH THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.

IN SUPPORT OF THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE AS WELL. THIS IS A FRONTAGE ALONG THE OTHER PIECE OF COUNTY ROAD 13 NORTH FOR EVERY THIS IS THE SHARED ACCESS POINT WAS TALKING ABOUT LOOKING FROM BUDDY BOYS BACK TOWARD THE HARDWARE STORE AND TO THE LEFT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE ON TO THE OTHER PARCEL.

AND THAT IS JUST BUDDY BOYS AND THAT IS SHOWING YOU COUNTY ROAD 13 NORTH AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

I HAVE PUT IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL MAP IN CASE THERE ARE QUESTIONS AND I PUT A KNOWN THE USES ARE. IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT. THIS IS THE REQUEST TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE TO ROLL COMMERCIAL.AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS THE MOST APPROPRIATE AND CHANGE THE ZONING FROM OPEN ROLE TO DEVELOPMENT AND TO ALLOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE COMMERCIAL. THE ROLE COMMERCIAL LAND USE PROVIDES FOR WERE ALL COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL, NEIGHBORHOOD PUBLIC SERVICE AND THE RESIDENTIAL ACCESSORY, WHICH WE PLAN TO USE.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DEVELOPMENT CODE, THIS IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES, PARTICULARLY THE LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION ELEMENTS FOR THE PUD FURTHER DEFINES THE USES AND AS YOU KNOW, IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE MODIFIED PERMITTED LIMITS IT AND GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE.

WE FEEL THIS IS COMPATIBLE. AND IS AN EXPANSION OF THE CONSISTING NOTE THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED WITH BEING COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA OF THE ADJACENT GENERAL STORE HAS DONE DIFFERENT THINGS. AND BEEN FINE FOR THE NEIGHBORS. THESE USES WOULD BE SIMILAR IN COMPATIBLE AND ALLOW MORE CONVENIENT COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY FOR THE FOLKS IN THAT AREA. AND HELPED WITH ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. WITHOUT THE IMPACTS OF THE RESIDENTIAL SITE THAT YOU SEE. TO ADD A LITTLE BIT, WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING. WE HAD A NUMBER THAT WAS A VIRTUAL ONE. WE HAD ANOTHER AND THEY DID ASK A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE TRAFFIC.

SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THIS IS A PRETTY LOW TRAFFIC GENERATOR. COMMERCIAL ACTUALLY DRAWS FROM

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THE TRAFFIC THAT IS ALREADY THERE.

IS NOT CREATING NEW TRAFFIC SO TO SPEAK KOREAN YOU ARE LOOKING AT BETWEEN THE THREE USES AND EVERYTHING PEAK HOUR TRIPS AROUND 48 AND TRIPS PER DAY. AND WE DISCUSSED THAT WITH A COUPLE OF THE PEOPLE. WE DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT ON THE HISTORIC HIGHWAY. NOBODY HAD ANY MAJOR OBJECTIONS. THERE WERE ALSO SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE WATER IN THE SEWER IN THE FIRE PROTECTION.

THIS IS IN THE COUNTY UTILITY AREA, BUT IT IS NOT CLOSE ENOUGH TO HOOK UP PUBLIC SEWER AT THIS TIME.CHRIS IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT.T'S BASICALLY A PACKAGE TYPE SEPTIC SYSTEM THAT WILL BE DESIGNED SO IT CAN HOOK UP WHENEVER THE LINES BECOME IN THE AREA.AS FOR THE WATER FOR FOUGHT FIRE PROTECTION, THAT IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT SECTION WE WORKED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE OTHER ONES IN THIS GENERAL AREA THAT HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING SO THEY WILL BE PROVIDING THE FIRE PROTECTION, THE WATER NEEDED FOR FIRE PROTECTION. WITH THAT, PZA RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 7/0 AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TODAY! OKAY, THANKYOU. ARE THERE ANY IMMEDIATE QUESTIONS? WHY DO WE OPEN THIS UP TO

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE WILL NOW HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON BOTH THREE AND FOUR TOGETHER.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS THREE AND FOUR . PUBLIC COMMENT?

I SEE NONE, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU MR. VICE CHAIR

PARIS BACK TO THE BOARD. >> I WOULD MOVE THIS IF YOU

LIKE. >> PLEASE, THANK YOU.

>> THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE 4/3. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER.

3/4? PLAN AMENDMENT FIRST.

NUMBER THREE. MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 202

¦ >> 48.

>> REQUEST TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY EIGHT OF EIGHT ACRES LOCATED AT COUNTY ROAD 13 NORTH AND JOE ASHTON ROAD FROM ORACLE CIVIC CULTURE RS TO ROLL COMMERCIAL RC BASED UPON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED IN

THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SMITH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. ANY FURTHER COMMENT? SEE NONE, PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5/0.

>> AGENDA ITEM FOR. WOULD BE GLAD TOMOVE IT AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. >> MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE

2021 ¦ >> 49 .

>> BASED UPON FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND. >> AND WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TRAN TO PUT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.EEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

[5. Public Hearing * REZ 2021-14 Hamameh Dealership. Request to rezone approximately 0.15 acres of land, out of an available 1.08 acres, from Commercial, Neighborhood (CN) to Commercial, Intensive (CI) with conditions to allow for supporting infrastructure for a proposed car dealership, specifically lot 5 located at 333 State Road 16. This item was heard by the Planning and Zoning Agency at their regularly scheduled public hearing on August 5, 2021, and was recommended for approval by a vote of 6-0.]

THAT PASSES 5/0. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE FROM THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING 2021 Ã14 APPROPRIATE THIS IS ALSO A QUASIJUDICIAL MATTERS WE START WITH COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST AGAINST WHAT NONE MR. CHAIR.

>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON. >> NONE MR. CHAIR BY

COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> NUNS BY COMMISSIONER SMITH.

> NONE. >> I HAVE KNOWN AS WELL THE REASON GOOD 20.> MINE NAME IS IMAD HAMAMEH.

I'M THE PROUD OWNER OF THE 333 PROPERTY IN PARIS HOPING TO ESTABLISH A DEALERSHIP ON THAT LOCATION.

THIS REQUEST IS FOR REZONING READ ONE OF SEVEN LOTS ON THAT PROPERTY TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS IN THE MIDDLE PART OF THE PROPERTY AS OUTLINED IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

NUMBER FIVE IS CURRENTLY CN AND I WOULD LIKE TO REUSE OWN THAT TO CI FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF PUTTING IN A RETENTION POND IN A SEPTIC TANK ON THE PROPERTY IN SUPPORT OF THE DEALERSHIP BUILT ON LOTS 1 TO 4 THAT ARE CURRENTLY ZONED CI HERE THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF THE REQUEST PARIS TO THIS .15 ACRES AND WHEN I INITIALLY SUBMITTED THE PLANS FOR THE COUNTY FOR PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, PRE-DISCUSSION WHERE YOU CAN

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PUT IT ON THERE WITHOUT REZONING IT BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE SIMILAR ZONING. WHICH I THOUGHT THERE'D BE SIMILAR.HEY SAID IT HAS TO BE CI AS WELL.

THEREFORE A SEGMENT THIS REQUEST FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

LOCATION MAP AS YOU SEE HERE IS BETWEEN 95 AND US ONE AND SURROUNDED BY ARTHUR STREET AND GARY AVENUE, WHICH IS A DEAD-END STREET. THE AERIAL MAP OF THE LOCATION IS ADJACENT TO O'REILLYS AUTO POT START TO THE RIGHT OF IT TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY. FUTURE LAND USE IS CURRENTLY IN MIXED-USE DISTRICT AND AS YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAW IN THE ZONING, THE FIRST FOUR LOTS ON THE TOP RCI AND THE ONE SURRENDERED BY THE RECTANGULAR SHAPE IS NUMBER FIVE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO REZONE TO CI. IS PARALLEL TO THE NEXT DOOR ARE AUTO PARTS STORE. THEY HAVE THE RETENTION POND AND SEPTIC TANK ON THE SAME PARALLEL ON THE LOT I'M HOPING TO REZONE SO I CAN DO THE SAME THING SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE OPERATION THAT WOULD BE LIMITED TO ONE THROUGH FOUR.

THE BENEFITS OF THE REZONING MAKES IT LESS DENSE.

IF I WAS TO PUT THE RETENTION POND ONE THROUGH FOUR IT WOULD BE TO CONDENSED AND NARROW AND IT WOULD NOT BE SAFE.

DRIVING THROUGH THERE FOR THE CUSTOMERS TO COME THROUGH AND HAVE A PARKING LOT ON THE BUILDING AND THE SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURES. IT IS SAFER IN A LESS CROWDED ENVIRONMENT FOR THE CUSTOMERS COMING IN AND COMING OUT OF THAT PLOT. ADDITIONALLY, LOT FIVE WOULD OFFER IN ESSENCE A BIGGER BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN THE DEALERSHIP OPERATION AND RESIDENTIAL AREA FURTHER TO THE SOUTH KOREA SOUTH OF LOT NUMBER SEVEN.

LOT NUMBER SEVEN IS PART OF THE PROPERTY AND IT IS A RESIDENTIAL AND I PLAN ON PUTTING A HOUSE OVER THERE FOR MY SON WILL BE OPERATING THE DEALERSHIP WILL BE RESIDING ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL FOR FROM COMPATIBILITY OF THE NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES, YOU SEE THERE'S A LOT OF AUTOMOTIVE FOCUS IN THE AREA FROM AVIS TO AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SHOP ACROSS THE STREET NEXT TO O'REILLYS, ADVANCED AUTO ON THE RIGHT TO THE EAST SIDE AND THROUGH DEALERSHIPS ON THE CORNER OF 16TH AND US ONE. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN AND THE INTENT TO RETAIN, MEET ALL THE BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS AND SCREEN THE BUFFERS IN THE BACK AND ON THE SIGNS IT WILL HAVE AN ENTRYWAY FROM BOTH SIDES OF ARTHUR AND TERRY AVENUE.

IS THE DOT DID NOT APPROVE AND DIRECT ACCESS INTO THE PROPERTY FROM SR 16 DUE TO THE FACT IT IS SURROUNDED BY TWO STREETS THAT WOULD ALLOW ME WITHOUT A PROBLEM.

THE MEETING ON AUGUST 5 WAS ANONYMOUSLY APPROVED 6/0.

THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

>> WHY DON'T WE OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.> WE WILL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 5. PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 5? SEE NONE MR. CHAIRMAN PARIS TO BRING IT BACK TOTHE BOARD .

>> THANK YOU. WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD.

COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? QUESTIONS?

>> I MOVE ITEM 5. MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2021 APPROVING REZONING 2021 Ã14 DEALERSHIP REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 0.15 ACRES OF LAND OF AN AVAILABLE ONE .08 ACRES FROM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE WITH CONDITIONS BASED UPON THE FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT

PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALTER. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?EEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5/0.

[6. Public Hearing * NZVAR 2021-10 Eventide Lot 12. Request for a Non-Zoning Variance to Land Development Code, Section 4.01.06.B to allow a Retaining Wall in lieu of a minimum 25-foot natural, vegetative building setback to the Upland Buffer, specifically located at 216 Sea Glass Way.]

CONGRATULATIONS, SIR. WILL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM SIX, A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE EVENT 12 THIRD WHY DON'T YOU START WITH

YOU. >> I HAVE NONE TO REPORT.

>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> NONE. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

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>> NONE. >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

>> NONE. >> I HAVE A DISCLOSURE BUT I HAD A PHONE CALL WITH MR. JUSTIN WILLIAMS THIS PAST THURSDAY, AUGUST 5 AT 1:30 P.M.. WE TALKED ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, HIS CONVERSATIONS WITH NEIGHBORS AND WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.

PLEASE COME FORWARD. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON PUT THEM JUSTIN WILLIAMS OF COLLEEN WICKER. OUT 1006 SKINNER LAKE DRIVE AND REPRESENT THE PROJECT. THIS IS LOT NUMBER 12 LOCATED IN THE EVENTIDE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH YOU SEE RIGHT THERE IS WEST AND NORTH OF MY CLAIM. LOT NUMBER 12.

SUPPORTED BY A PUMP STATION ON THE NORTH SIDE BOARD IS A CONSERVATION AREA IN THE REAR OF IT AND IT WAS ONE LOT, LOT NUMBER 16 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF IT.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S LOCATION THERE.

WILL HAVE A 25 FOOT SETBACK OFF OF THAT BUFFER WHERE WE ARE ALLOWED TO PUT IT. WE ARE ASKING FOR THE VARIANCE TO PUT THE HOME CLOSER TO THAT BUFFER SO THAT THE HOME CAN BE A MORE TYPICAL SHAPE. AND YOU WILL SEE IN JUST A MINUTE WHY THAT IS. THIS IS THE BUILDABLE AREA OF THE LAW BECAUSE OF THE BUFFER THAT IS ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE.

AND MAKES THE LOT NOT ON BUILDABLE, BUT IS NOT DESIRABLE TO ACT THE WAY INTO SHAPE. AND THAT SHOWS YOU THE 25 FOOT SETBACK THAT IS OFF OF THAT BUFFER.

AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING TO HAVE IS A REDUCTION OF THE SETBACK SO THAT THEY CAN PUT THEIR HOUSE AND THAT AND BE MORE SQUARED UP AND MORE IN UNIFORM WITH THE HOUSES IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF. THE BIT WE ARE LOOKING TO ADD AND SCOTT AT THE PUMP STATION ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROJECT IN THE CONSERVATION AREA IN THE REAR.

IT IS WILL BE NOT VISIBLE BY ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS.

AND WE HAVE HEARD NO OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT.

AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE GOT. AND WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTION.

>> OKAY BUT YOU THINK YOU. IS THERE ANYTHING FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? WHY DON'T WE OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.> WE WILL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 6.

PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 6. SEEING NONE, AND BRING IT BACK

TO THE BOARD. >> WE WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER SMITH.> I KNOW THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT AND I WOULD BE WILLING

TO MOVE IT IF YOU LIKE. >> PLEASE, THANK YOU.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE TO ONE Ã 10 NONE ZONING VARIANCE TO SECTION 4.01.06 ANDTHE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE .

IN LIEU OF A MINIMUM OF 25 FOO BUILDING SETBACK TO THE UPLAND BUFFER, SPECIFICALLY LOCATED AT 216 C GLASS WAY .

AND FIVE CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND. >> THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DANE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FOR THE BOARD? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE FOR.

THAT PASSES 5/0. >> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A BRIEF

[7. Public Hearing * MAJMOD 2021-04 Victoria Crossing. Request for a Major Modification to the Supportive Housing Initiative PUD (Ordinance 2015-24) to allow transitional housing and/or workforce/affordable housing, to increase the maximum height of buildings from 35 feet to 40 feet, to decrease the amount of units from 100 to 96, and to change the project name to Victoria Crossing. The subject property is located at 1850 State Road 207. This item was heard before the Planning and Zoning Agency at their regularly scheduled public hearing on August 5, 2021, and was recommended for approval by a vote of 6-0. Please see the Growth Management Staff Report for project details.]

>> WE ARE GOING TO RECONVENE HERE.

NEXT AGENDA ITEM. BACK ON SCHEDULE HERE.

NEXT WILL BE NUMBER SEVEN IMPORTANT IN THIS IS ALSO A QUASIJUDICIAL MATTERS. WILL START WITH OUR DISCLOSURES. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

>> YES, MR. JERRY PURDOM AUGUST 12 AT APPROXIMATELY 3:00 P.M.

AND MET WITH MR. THAT HE AND HIS TEAM DEVELOPER FROM HIS THE ROOM.■ND MS. BISHOP WAS N - WE DISCUSSED THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT. WE DISCUSSED THE AFFORDABILITY OF THE PROJECTS AND THAT SOCIAL SERVICES WOULD STILL HAVE AN OFFICE SET UP IN THIS BUILDING TO PROVIDE SOME SERVICES TO THE HOMELESS. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL PLACE FOR THE HOMELESS WE ARE USING THE

FACILITIES TO GO. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAD A MEETING ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 12

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WITH MATT AND MICHAEL HARTMAN. WE DISCUSSED THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT. ON THE COST OF THE RENTALS, CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND INCREASED ABOUT 10 PERCENT FOR THIS ONE ABOUT ONE. ON ESTIMATES.

ALSO DISCUSSED THE NEED THAT THIS WAS ANSWERING ONE HOUR NEEDS THAT WE HAD BUT NOT ALL OF THEM.

THANK YOU. >> MR. VICE CHAIR? POINT I HAD A MEETING WITH MATT AND MICHAEL HARTMAN ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 12 AROUND 4:00 AND DISCUSSED THE SAME ITEMS IN GENERAL THAT COMMISSIONER WALDRON PUT IN THE RECORD.

>> THANK YOU. >> ON AUGUST 12 AT 11:00 A.M. I MET WITH MR. HARMON AND MR. LOTTIE AND TERESA BISHOP AND TALKED ABOUT TURNSTONE AND NON-PROFIT OUT OF ILLINOIS FOR TALKED ABOUT TRANSITION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

DISCUSSED HOME AGAIN IN THEIR POSITION ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. IS A DISCUSSED SOME OF THE GERMANS COMMENTS IN REGARD TO THIS PARTICULAR SITE.

IT BE TOO FAR AWAY FROM THE EPICENTER TO CONSTRUCT FOR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING TO DISCUSS ON MONDAY CBG AND TAX EXEMPT BONDS TO THIS IN REGARDS TO THE RENTAL RATES AS WELL.

TALKED ABOUT SOCIAL SERVICES OFFICES INSIDE THE COMMUNITY CENTER. THEY WILL BE PAID IN FULL FULL PROPERTY TAXES AND WILL DISCUSS THE SITE PLAN AND THEN DISCUSSED THE ROYAL AMERICAN MANAGEMENT AND WILL OVERSEE THE MANAGEMENT PROPERTY. WE ALSO HAD A PHONE CALL FROM MIKE DAVIS YESTERDAY AT 3:06 PM AUGUST 16 AND DISCUSSED HOME AGAIN THE 99 YEAR LEASE FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THEIR SERVICES AND IMPORTANCE OF THEM. LIKEWISE THE CRITICAL IMPORTANCE OF THE RELOCATION NOT IN THIS FACILITY.

WE ALSO RECEIVED EMAILS IN LIGHT OF THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SMITH.LET ME GO BACK TO

COMMISSIONER WALDRON. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I ALSO HAD A CALL FROM MIKE DAVIS YESTERDAY AND HAD THE SAME DISCUSSION MR.

SMITH HAD. >> THANK YOU.

I MET WITH MR. MATT LOTTIE, MICHAEL HARTMAN ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 12 IN APPROXIMATELY 10:30 A.M. AND WE COVERED SOME OF THE SAME THING OVER THE COST-EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PROJECT, THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, THE IMPORTANCE OF ADDRESSING THE COMMUNITY NEEDS, HOME AGAINST POSITION ON THIS.

I RECEIVED A NUMBER OF EMAILS AS WELL OUTLINING CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THIS WOULD IMPACT HOME BEGINS POSITION.

>> GOOD MORNING. MATT LOTTIE, 906 ANASTASIA BOULEVARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING AND FOR STAFFS WORKON THESE APPLICATIONS .

BEFORE YOU IS MAJOR MONT 2021 Ã 04 THROUGH THE CROSSING PROJECT OF THIS IS A MODIFICATION TO 2015 Ã24 WITH AN UPDATED MDP TAX AND THE MAP REVISION TO ALLOW FOR 96 AFFORDABLE UNITS TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON 10 ACRES FROM YOUR THE SITES LOCATED TO THE WEST OF WILDWOOD AND SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION THERE.

DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THE NEW PROPOSED PUBLIX IN THE PROJECT.

THERE IS A ROUGH OVERLAY OF THE SITE PLAN, AND AERIAL MAP IT CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE IS MIXED USE CURRENTLY ZONED POD.

AS AGENCY BASED ON THE AERIAL THE SITE WAS PARTIALLY CLEARED AND CONSTRUCTION IS NOT COMMENCED.

THERE ARE STRUCTURES OUT THERE. HE CAN SEE THE INTERSECTION WITH THE SITE PLAN THERE WERE THE INTERIOR TREES AND WETLANDS THAT REMAIN. YOU CAN SEE THE BUFFERS PROVIDING THEIR ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

AND ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT A STORMWATER BETWEEN ADJACENT PARTIAL AND HOLDINGS. THE PREVIOUS P.D. FOR WAS FOR ABOUT 100 UNITS THERE. BUT SHORTER-TERM LIVING 200 TO 350 SQUARE FEET EACH WITH RECREATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES FOR FOOD, ETC. THIS IS A COPY OF THE PREVIOUS MAP APPEARED AGAIN, HOME AGAIN SITE WAS NEVER BUILT.

TO PORTABLE BUILDINGS FOR THE COUNTY PURCHASED THE SITE OF

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JULY 16. PROPOSED PROJECT IS 96 UNITS BETWEEN 805 SQUARE FEET AND 1164 SQUARE FEET.

THERE WILL BE A SOCIAL SERVICES OFFICE OUT THERE AS WE DISCUSSED. RECREATION AND ASSOCIATED COMPONENTS ARE OUT THERE. SIDEWALKS 6 TO 8 FEET AROUND THE ENTIRE SITE FROM ROOM WE ARE ASKING FOR A WAIVER IN THE PARKING REDUCTION 283 FROM 202. NUMBER POSTMA.

VICTORIA CROSSING IS GETTING FUNDING.

RECEIVING ASSISTANCE VIA THAT FUNDING RELOCATION ASSISTANT HAS BEEN HIRED, A CONSULTANT HAS BEEN HIRED TO ASSIST WITH THAT LOCATION. AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED A 90 DAY NOTICE TO RELOCATE BY THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER FROM THIS SITE. FUSE VA APPROVED THIS ON AUGUST FIFTH 6/0. WE ASKED TO APPROVE THE PROJECT WITH THE MODIFICATION WE WERE PROVIDED.

IF YOU'VE ANY QUESTIONS WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER THEM.

>> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE

BOARD? >> WHY DON'T WE OPEN IT UP FOR

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY.

WE WILL NOW HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 7 FOR.

ITEM 7. VICTORIA. YES, MA'AM HER NAME AND ADDRESS. AND IF THERE ARE FOR THE SPEAKERS, PLEASE START FORMING A LINE AT THE MICROPHONE.

WE HAVE ONE OF MY LEFT AND ONE OF MY RIGHT.

SO WE CAN MOVE ALONG. >> ONE AT ONE PODIUM AND ONE OF THE OTHER SO WE CAN MOVE ALONG. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. >> MY NAME IS NANCY.

I LIVE AT 5308 SECOND STREET IN SAINT AUGUSTINE ZIP CODE 32080.

I'VE BEEN A VOLUNTEER WITH HOME AGAIN ST. JOHNS FOR 10 YEARS.

I BEGAN WITH HELPING SERVE MY HOMELESS BROTHERS AND SISTERS DOWNTOWN AND DINING WITH DIGNITY.

ALTHOUGH I DON'T REALLY BELIEVE EATING IN THE PARKING LOT CONVEYS A SENSE OF DIGNITY TO ANYONE, HOWEVER, TREATING EACH OTHER WITH DIGNITY CAN MEAN A LOT TO REAL I HELPED GET 60 VOLUNTEERS TO RUN A DROP IN CENTER ON STATE ROADS 207 SITE LIST TO OFFER SHOWERS, LAUNDRY AND MEALS A FEW DAYS A WEEK.

IN ADDITION OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND HER ASSISTANT HAVE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS BEEN OFFERING CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES TO HELP OUR CLIENTS FIND JOBS, HOUSING, MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, ALCOHOL AND ADDICTION COUNSELING ETC.

OUR LONG-TERM VISION AT HOME AGAIN WAS TO HAVE 100 SUPPORTIVEHOUSING UNITS , UNIFIED SERVICES CENTER AND A LARGE DINING AREA AND KITCHEN ALL FOR THE HOMELESS TO BE BUILT IN THE 13 ACRES OF THAT SAME SITE.

THIS WOULD BE MORE SEVERAL OF THE SERVICE PROVIDERS WILL THE HOMELESS COULD HAVE A PRESENCE IN ONE LOCATION SO THAT THEY WOULD BE MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR THOSE WHO NEED THEIR SERVICES.

THE COUNTY HAS HAD FIVE YEARS TO BUILD THIS PROJECT, WHICH WAS SELECTED TO USE THE FEMA MONEY THAT WAS AWARDED BECAUSE HOME AGAIN HAD A SHOVEL READY PROJECT.

MEANING HAD ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS, ALREADY CLEARED THE LAND AND HAD STARTED PUTTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND.WHICH COULD ALSO BE USED AS AN EMERGENCY SHELTER DURING HURRICANES, ETC. WE ARE DOWN TO THE LAST YEAR FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE BUILT ONLY TO FIND OUT IT HAS NOW TURNED INTO A WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECT FOR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES.

ALTHOUGH WE BELIEVE THIS IS A WORTHY CAUSE, THIS IS NOT WHAT OUR VOLUNTEERS, COMMUNITY, DONORS, BOARD MEMBERS HAVE INVESTED THOUSANDS OF HOURS AND DOLLARS INTO FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE BUILT. ONCE AGAIN, THE HOMELESS MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY ARE BEING PUT BACK DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST. THIS PANDEMIC IS CREATED EVEN MORE HOMELESS IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE OLDER WOMEN LIVING IN THEIR CARS. MEN AND WOMEN OF ALL AGES OUT OF A JOB OR WORKING AT LOW WAGE JOBS THAT ARE NOT ENOUGH TO PAY THE HIGH RENTS WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTY.

MANY WE SEE AT THE DROP IN CENTER HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND OR ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE ISSUES WHICH ARE EXACERBATED HAVING TO LIVE ON STREET OR IN THE WOODS.

WE CAN DO BETTER AS A COMMUNITY.

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>> MA'AM, I'M SORRY. YOU NEED TO WRAP IT UP.

>> MY LAST SENTENCE. >> MANY OF US ARE PEOPLE OF FAITH AND WE MUST DO BETTER TO RESTORE THE DIGNITY EACH OF OUR SISTERS AND BROTHERS DESERVE. WE NEED THIS PROJECT FOR THE

HOMELESS. >> NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

>> MY NAME IS ELLEN WALDEN 4628 L STREET ELTON FLORIDA NIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT HOME AGAIN ST. JOHNS.

I WANT TO SPEAK TO ONE THING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND THAT IS A LANGUAGE THAT SAYS TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND OR WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.DEFINED TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. THAT IS USUALLY SHORT-TERM LIMITED HOUSING TWO WEEKS TO 24 MONTHS.

TRADITIONALLY THAT IS WHAT THAT MEANS.

WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. CCORDING TO THE DEVELOPER, IT IS HOUSING INCOME AND RENT RESTRICTED TO INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES WHOSE INCOME IS BETWEEN 30 PERCENT AND 60 PERCENT OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

FOR AN INDIVIDUAL, THE INCOME RANGES FROM $15,220 TO THE HIGH END AT $31,440 PER THAT EQUATES TO $1268 PER MONTH AND 2622 THE HIGH FOR A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL TO BEGIN THE POPULATION THAT WILL NOT BE ADDRESSED IS OUR HOMELESS, PARTICULARLY OUR ECONOMIC HOMELESS. GOES ON DISABILITY, SOCIAL SECURITY DISABILITY AND SSI. RIGHT NOW 26 PERCENT OF OUR FOLKS IN THIS COMMUNITY ARE ON FOOD STAMPS, WHICH MEANS THEY ARE AT OR BELOW POVERTY. IS ELDERLY AND DISABLED I GET THE $794 A MONTH TO 1000, THEY WON'T BE ELIGIBLE TO GO INTO THIS PROJECT. THEY WILL REMAIN IN THEIR CARS, REMAIN OUT IN THE WOODS OR ON THE STREET SWEEPING.

AND AS NANCY MENTIONED, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A HUGE POPULATION OF PEOPLE OVER THE AGE OF 55 WHO ARE HOMELESS, NOT BECAUSE OF ADDICTION ISSUES BUT BECAUSE A FINANCIALLY CANNOT AFFORD A PLACE TO LIVE AND THAT IS UNCONSCIONABLE IN THIS COMMUNITY OF WEALTH THAT WE HAVE HERE.

WITH THE MINIMUM WAGE GOING UP, THIS PROJECT WILL BE GREAT FOR THE HOUSE KEEPERS OUT THERE FOR THE DISHWASHERS, THE PEOPLE IN OUR TOURIST INDUSTRY. THIS PROJECT IS REALLY FOR THEM. BECAUSE IT IS WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.HAT HAPPENED TO THE FOCUS ON THE HOME THROUGH THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT HAS CHANGED IN THE HOMELESS WILL BE LEFT OUT YET AGAIN.

YOU'VE TAKEN AWAY OUR HOPE TO BE HOUSED IN THE AND BEEN COUNTING ON THE PROJECT FOR YEARS AND WE HAVE BEEN REASSURING THEM AND OUR DONORS THAT THE PROJECT WOULD COME TO FRUITION. UNFORTUNATELY I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT IN CASE THAT'S WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

>> MICAH DAVIS 23 PARK TERRACE DRIVE.

I WANT TO ECHO ELLEN AND HER COMMENTS.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR A LONG TIME.

MANY OF YOU HAVE WORKED WITH US ON THIS PROJECT FOR A LONG TIME TO READ AND WE UNDERSTAND THE WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR THESE COMMENTS ARE IN THE WAY AGAINST WORKFORCE HOUSING.

WE CAN'T FORGET THAT WHEN THE COUNTY CAME TO US AND SAID YOU HAVE A SHOVEL READY PROJECT THAT WE CAN USE THIS FEMA MONEY FOR, HOME AGAIN SAID WE HAVE A 99 YEAR LEASE.

WE STEPPED OUT OF THE WAY SO THAT MONEY COULD BE SPENT ON WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS HELPING THE HOMELESS.

SO THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE PROJECT OR LOCATION THAT HELPS THE HOMELESS, WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHERE THAT IS GOING TO BE.

AND THAT IS ON ALL OF US IN THIS COMMUNITY TO DO THAT.

ARE SITE WITH TWO STAFF PEOPLE HAVE PUT 25 PEOPLE TO WORK THIS YEAR FROM YOU WERE THE ONLY DROP-OFF CENTER, YOUR ONLY PLACE OPEN THROUGHOUT ALL COVID BOARD WHENEVER SOMEONE CAME UP WE SERVED THEM AND TOOK CARE OF THEM TO RUIN WE HAVE DONE THE JOB HELPING WITH THE HOMELESS. WE NEED A DROP-OFF CENTER BROKEN WE NEED A PLACE THAT IS A HURRICANE SHELTER FOR HOMELESS. YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO THERE ARE SEVERAL GROUPS WHO DO NOT DO WELL IN HURRICANE SHELTERS IN THE HOMELESS ARE ONE OF THEM.

WE HOPED THAT WOULD BE ON THE SITE AND.

DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT IS NOW ON THIS SITE.

THAT IS WHAT THE SERVICE BUILDING WAS GOING TO DOUBL LAST. SO THIS IS NOT WHERE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION OF WHERE IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. PBECAUSE IS GOING TO BE MORE AN MORE NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WE GROW THROUGH THE HOMELESS AREN'T GOING ANYWHERE, THE NUMBERS WILL NOT GO DOWN.

WE GO THROUGH ANOTHER ECONOMIC DOWNTURN THERE WILL BE EVEN LARGER NUMBERS. AND HAVING SOMEONE YOU ARE TRYING TO GET A JOB FOR AND THEY CAN GO SOMEWHERE TO DO THEIR LAUNDRY AND TAKE A SHOWER IS A BASIC REQUIREMENT TO ME OF

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GETTING THEM FROM LIVING IN THE WOODS TO GETTING THEM INTO A JOB. ONE OF THE SUCCESS STORIES THIS YEAR IS A WOMAN LIVING IN HER CAR THAT WAS DOING COMPUTER WORK FOR A LARGE FIRM. SHOULD DRIVE UP EVERY MORNING, HOOK UP TO OUR INTERNET AND WORK UNTIL SHE SAVED ENOUGH MONEYTHAT SHE COULD GET INTO HOUSING.

SHE IS NOW IN THE HOUSING. THAT IS WHEN OUR SUCCESS STORIES. WE LOSE A LOCATION OR A HOME AGAIN TO DO THAT, WE LOSE THE ABILITY TO BE SUCCESSFUL .

SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO RETHINK WHERE HOME AGAIN OR WHERE THIS PIECE OF THE HOMELESS PUZZLE NOW FITS AND HOW WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT. THE GOAL OF YOU ALL ARE WILLING WORK TO DO THAT. BUT AS ELLEN SAID, IT'S A LITTLE DISCOURAGING THAT WE WORK THIS LONG FOR THEM IN THE HOUSING COMPONENT WILL BE LEFT OUT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT IF IT GOES AWAY. AND THAT IS UNFORTUNATE.

BUT I LOOK FOR ALL OF YOU ALL TO SOLVE THE AND I THINK YOU ARE GOOD WELL-INTENTIONED PEOPLE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO

WORKING WITH YOU TO DO THAT. >> MY NAME IS FATHER JOHN GILLESPIE, PASTOR OF SAINT SEBASTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, 1112 STATE ROAD 16 32084. WOULD UNDERLINE A NUMBER OF THE COMMENTS MADE ALREADY. I AM TRYING NOT TO COMPETE REPEAT THEM. AND IS PARTICULARLY AS MIKE DAVIS JUST INDICATED, OUR HOPE AND TRUST IS THAT OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE UNDERSTANDING, COMPETENT AND COMPASSIONATE PEOPLE AND CONCERNED ABOUT THE WELFARE OF ALL THE CITIZENS OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

WE ARE CONCERNED PARTICULARLY ABOUT A GROUP THAT TENDS TO SLIP OFF THE LIST OR FALL OFF THE MAP AND GET FORGOTTEN.

AND WE ARE AFRAID SOMETHING OF THAT MAY BE HAPPENING NOW.

AS WAS SAID EARLIER, I COULDN'T BE HAPPIER THAN TO SEE YOU SUPPORTING WORKFORCE HOUSING. I THINK THAT IS WONDERFUL.

THAT ISN'T WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD WAS HAPPENING PARIS IN IT FEELS LIKE A SHELL GAME IN WHICH THE P WAS PUT UNDER THE SHELL AND MOVED AROUND AND NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WE ARE SAYING THAT DOESN'T LOOK AT ALL LIKE WHAT WE SIGNED ON FOR! IT HAS BEEN PRACTICALLY GUTTED BECAUSE OF THE NICHE IT IS AIMED AT.

AND THE DETAILS WERE GIVEN IN THEM SURE YOU HAVE THEM.BUT THE DINING WITH DIGNITY. ONE OF THE ACTIVITIES OF HOME AGAIN ST. JOHN'S. WE ARE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT A COALITION OF 40 CHURCHES ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

ST. JOHN'S TO DOWN SOMETIMES OUTSIDE THE COUNTY.

AND WE COME TOGETHER TO FEED THE HUNGRY AND THE HOMELESS I WAS INVOLVED FOR 30 YEARS WITH ST. FRANCIS HOUSE AS PASTOR AT GAINESVILLE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA CATHOLIC STUDENT CENTER. I CAME TO THE COUNTY TO SERVE AT SAINT SEND SEBASTIAN'S 11 YEARS AGO.

FOR 10 YEARS I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH HOME AGAIN ST.

JOHN'S HE WAS HOPEFUL AND WORKING HARD ON PUTTING IN AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE TOWARDS THIS PARTICULAR POPULATION.

AND LABOR ARE BEING MISSED AGAIN.

WE THOUGHT WE HAD FORMED A PARTNERSHIP TO SEE THE DREAM REALIZED. AND WE HAVE BEEN TELLING OUR SUPPORTERS ALL OVER FINALLY WE ARE IN THE HOME STRETCH.

EXCEPT IT KEPT GETTING STRETCHED OUT AND STRETCHED OUT AND STRETCHED OUT. NOW AS WE SEE MORE CLOSELY THE DETAILS, WE HAVE BEEN ÃI HAVE BEEN, I WON'T SPEAK FOR OTHERS.

DUPED.>> MY NAME IS DWIGHT MILLER.

AND LIVE WITH MY WIFE AT 1107 IN SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH AND I ALSO AM A MEMBER OF CARE. I KNOW IS IN ALL OF YOU ANYMORE YESTERDAY. THAT'S NOT WHY I'M NOT TALKING OUT OF ORDER RIGHT NOW PUT IN FACT, I DIDN'T THINK I HAD TO MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY. BUT NOW CONCERNED WE ARE WITH THE HOMEOWNERS WHO MAY NOT GET THEIR MONEY OUT OF EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. IT'S IN THERE AND I KNOW YOU WANT TO GIVE IT TO THEM IN A KNOW YOU ARE WORKING HARD TO TRY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. BUT I GUESS WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE HOMELESS IN THE CARE AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ECHO THE COMMENTS HE JUST MADE ABOUT IT IS EXCITING TO BE HOMES BEING BUILT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE IN THE WORKFORCE MINIMUM-WAGE JOBS BECAUSE WE NEED THAT FOR THE ECONOMY AND OF COURSE FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, I COULD BE WRONG. BUT I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE REALLY ONLY TWO PLACES WHERE HOUSING IS PROVIDED FOR HOMELESS. THAT IS ST. FRANCIS HOUSE AND TO THE EFFORTS OF THE HOMELESS COALITION.

OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE MANY MORE PEOPLE WHO WANT PERMANENTHOMES

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. PERHAPS NOT THE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE NOW.

AND MAYBE THERE WILL BE MORE. AND I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO DELIVER ON THAT PROMISE.

I NOT ALREADY FROM A LIMITED TIME SPENT ON THESE MEETINGS AND CORRESPONDING WITH YOU ALL, YOU WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING OF COURSE. I HEARD ABOUT HIM AGAIN ST.

JOHN'S WHEN WE FIRST MOVED OUT HERE WHEN IT WAS FIRST CREATED.

AND WILL MIKE DAVIS HAS BEEN WORKING HARD ON THAT.

IN OUR CHURCH HAS PARTICIPATED IN DINING WITH DIGNITY SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS WONDERFUL PROGRAM.

BUT WE JUST HAVE TO VOTE THE VOTE THE SAME ENERGY TO THAT GROUP THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DEVOTE TO OTHER PEOPLE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN TOWN WHO NEED A PLACE TO LIVE MORE PEOPLE ARE FINDING THEM SELVES IN SITUATIONS.

PLEASE MAKE THIS A PRIORITY. SEE TO IT THE PEOPLE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT LAND DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT HAPPENED.

I KNOW YOU ARE OPEN TO IT, I KNOW YOU WORK WITH PEOPLE LIKE MIKE AND WE CAN DO ANYTHING TO HELP YOU, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

YES, MA'AM? >> PJ, WAS SEDUCING AUGUSTINE.

THIS MAJOR MODIFICATION SHOULD BE DENIED BASED ON FINDING F FACT NUMBER SEVEN. THERE IS A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC PURPOSE IN KEEPING THE EXISTING ZONING.

THE LANGUAGE IN THE MAJOR MODIFICATION STATES AT THE DISCRETION DISERETI ON OF THE DEVELOPER , THEY CAN PROVIDE TRANSITIONAL, WORKFORCE OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THE USE OF THE WORD MAY WITH REGARD TO THE SOCIAL ASSISTANCE OFFICE AN EMERGENCY SHELTER, WHICH ARE REQUIRED FOR THE CDB OF ÃDR AND HUD FINANCING IS TOO VAGUE.

I APPRECIATE THE SPEAKER WHO INFORMED US THAT HOME AGAIN IS STILL PROVIDING SHOWERS AT 1850 STATE ROAD 207 FOR THE HOMELESS. BECAUSE I ASKED THE STAFF MEMBER BACK IN MARCH AND THAT WAS NOT BEING DONE.SOME GLAD FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. TURNSTONE DEVELOPMENT IS AN ALLEGED 501(C)(3), WHICH MEANS THEIR FINANCE RECORDS ARE NOT AVAILABLE TOTHE PUBLIC AS THE COUNTIES FINANCES .I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS AND I ATTENDED THE MEETING ON AUGUST 5. MANY QUESTIONS WERE ASKED BY ME AND NOT ANSWERED BY MR. HARTMAN, HIS TEAM WERE MR. FREEMAN.

BECAUSE MR. FREEMAN DID NOT MAKE THE PRESENTATION.

AND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TODAY, NUMBER 13, HOME AGAIN HAS A LEASE NOW. AND THAT WAS ALLEGED WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH HOME AGAIN AND THERE WAS NO ANSWER ON AUGUST 5, 2021. I WONDER IF MR. HARTMAN REACHED OUT TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PGA AFTER THE AUGUST 5, 2021 MEETING. THE COMMENT BY THE CHAIR ABOUT HOW WONDERFUL THINGS ARE IN WEST JACKSONVILLE FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS NOT A PLACE WERE TOO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN WEST JACKSONVILLE BECAUSE OF WHAT GOES ON IN WEST JACKSONVILLE. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE FROM HOME AGAIN SHOWING UP TODAY HAVING TALKED WITH YOU ALL.

BUT I WISH SOME OF THIS HAD BEEN DISCUSSED AT THE AUGUST 5 FISHED ON DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE THE WHOLE QUESTION IS ABOUT THEM GETTING THE MONEY IS A 501(C)(3) AND TRANSITIONAL NOT BEING PROVIDED FOR THE HOMELESS.

AND THAT IS WHAT THE ORDINANCE IN 2015 Ã24 WAS ALL ABOUT.

AND SO IT WILL BE INTERESTING HOW YOU HANDLE THIS TODAY.

THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.

I THINK THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC COMMENT.

MR. CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU.

BACK TO THE BOARD. COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> I GET THE SENSE, AT LEAST IN MY MIND, THAT THERE IS A SERIOUS DISCONNECT ON THIS ITE .

THE REASON I SAY THAT IS THAT ONE PRINCIPLE I HAVE ALWAYS

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TRIED TO LIVE BY IS A PROMISE MADE IS A PROMISE KEPT.

IN THE LAST WEEK OR TWO, HAVING RECEIVED EMAILS AND COMMENTS MADE TODAY THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS EITHER BETRAYED SOMEONE OR DUPED SOMEONE IS VERY DISTURBING TO ME.

BECAUSE THAT IS NOT THE WAY THIS ITEM WAS EXPLAINED TO ME.

WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN I GOT SEVERAL OF THOSE EMAILS I CONTACTED OUR STAFF WHO WALKED ME THROUGH THIS AND EXPLAINED I UNDERSTOOD THIS CORRECTLY AND IF I DIDN'T I WOULD APOLOGIZE.

BUT I THOUGHT WHEN WE MET THROUGH THE GRANT THERE WERE LIMITATIONS OR PARAMETERS BASED ON THE NEW HUD POLICY THAT THEY WERE GOING TO LEAN MORE TOWARD AFFORDABLE HOUSING, RATHER THAN HOMELESS HOUSING OR LOW INCOME HOUSING.

AND THAT WE WERE IN A POSITION WHERE WE WERE BASICALLY HAVING TO REACT TO CONSTRAINTS OR PARAMETERS OF THE FEDERAL PROGRAM THAT LED US TO THIS DECISION.

IF I'M WRONG, I NEED THAT BETTER EXPLAINED TO ME TODAY.

BECAUSE I FOR ONE AM NOT GOING TO GO BACK ON A PROMISE, PARTICULARLY ON ALL OF US SINCE I HAVE BEEN PARTICIPATING ON THIS BOARD HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO TRYING TO DO ALL THAT WE CAN FOR THE HOMELESS, ALL WE CAN FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I DON'T DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE TWO AS MUCH AS I WANT TO HELP BOTH. THAT'S MY POSITION.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE MY UNDERSTANDING TO EITHER BE REINFORCED BY THE STAFF WERE CORRECT ME WHERE I AM WRONG.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN, YOU ARE CORRECT.

>> I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER DEAN SAID.

OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THE TERMINOLOGY USED TODAY IS CONCERNING. THERE IS A BROKEN TRUST OR THAT. I BELIEVE WHEN WE MAKE A COMMITMENT AS A BOARD WE NEED TO KEEP THAT COMMITMENT.

MAYBE MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS IS DIFFERENT.

MAYBE THERE IS A COMMUNICATION ISSUE.

BUT WE HAVE HEARD IN PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS DISCUSSED FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM BEFORE.

OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE STAND UP HERE TODAY AND POINT OUT THEY WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THERE WAS A COMMITMENT MADE. SOME OF THIS HAPPENED PRIOR TO COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST AND MYSELF BEING ON THE BOARD, BUT I PUT GREAT WEIGHT ON WHEN THE BOARD MAKES A COMMITMENT THIS IS IMPORTANT. THIS IS NOT A REFLECTION ON THESE GENTLEMEN HERE. BUT IF WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO DO THIS, THAT WEIGHS HEAVILY ON ME.

I'M NOT SURE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER DEAN. CAN WE GET CLARIFICATION ON THIS? CAN WE CLARIFY WHERE WE ARE

WITH THIS? >> SURE MR. CHAIRMAN.

AND SO I THINK THE ONE CLARIFICATION I THINK IS IMPORTANT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE IS THAT THERE IS NO EXCLUSION OF SERVING HOMELESS POPULATION FROM THIS PROJECT.

AND SO THE ENTIRE 96 UNIT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS RENTAL UNITS ARE GOING TO BE OPEN FOR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME. THE SAME THING SUMMER LOW INCOME HOUSING UNITS. IN THE RENT RANGE CAN GO AS LOW AS $200 PLUS. AND I THINK IF YOU RECALL, WE ASKED TURNSTONE AS WELL AS THE OTHER PROJECT TO SET ASIDE 10 PERCENT FOR HOMELESS VETERANS PREFERENCE.

THAT IS ONE INDICATION THAT THESE HOUSINGS ARE RESERVED FOR ALL THE POPULATIONS WHO MIGHT NEED AND FITS IN THE INCOME CATEGORY. NO, THERE MIGHT BE A SMALL POPULATION WHO DOES NOT HAVE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCE TO PAY THE LOW RENT THAT THEY ARE STRUCTURED.

THAT IS WHERE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES SOCIAL SERVICES CAN COME IN PLAY TO PLACE THEM INTO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT THE BOARD IS ESTABLISHED FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO I THINK THIS PROGRAM DOES SERVE THE POPULATION THAT HOME AGAIN RIGHTFULLY ADVOCATING FOR. IN A DIFFERENT FASHION.

I THINK THIS FUNDING SOURCE AND ONE CLARIFICATION, AND IS NOT FEMA FUNDING BROKEN IT HAS A VERY STRINGENT REQUIREMENT AND HOW YOU CAN SPEND THE MONEY ON TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IS NO LONGER SUPPORTED MODEL BY HUD. IT HAS TO BE HOUSING FIRST MODEL, WHICH THE CONCEPT BASICALLY IS YOU ARE HOUSING EVERYONE IN A SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE RESPONSIBLE WAY AND

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HAVE TO ABIDE BY PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COVENANT.

AND I'M NOT VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE WONDERFUL SOCIAL SERVICES TEAM AND HOME AGAIN HAS A WONDERFUL TEAM OF VOLUNTEERS THAT CAN ASSIST THOSE RESIDENTS TO BE PART OF A PRODUCTIVE SOCIETY.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. DAVIS TO COME BACK UP HERE.

USED A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE.AND GOING TO STEP OUT OF OUR NORMAL PROCEDURES HERE. MR. DAVIS, USED A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE EARLIER ABOUT A YOUNG LADY? BASED ON WHAT WE SAID HERE, WOULD SHE FIT INTO THIS

CATEGORY? >> I WOULD ASK IF YOU LET ELLEN WALTON COME BACK UP WHO IS OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WHO DEALS WITH THE IN AND OUT DAY AND THE DOLLARS OF IT.

BECAUSE ONE OF ELLEN'S COMMENTS TO ME EARLIER IN THE DAY, AND I DON'T WANT TO MISREPRESENT THAT, IS IT THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO WON'T QUALIFY BECAUSE THEY DON'T MEET THE LOW INCOME THRESHOLD. NOW, MS. ANDREWS COMMENT IS THERE IS SOME WAY THE COUNTY IS GOING TO WRAP SERVICES AROUND THEM AND HELP THEM GET INTO THAT, WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT SO WE KNOW HOW MUCH OF THE HOMELESS WE ARE TRAINED WHAT PERCENTAGE WE ARE TRYING TO GET INTO THIS PROJECT WILL BE AT MY FEAR IS IFWE DON'T DO THAT WE DON'T GET THAT DETAILED RIGHT NOW , TWO YEARS FROM NOW WE WILL FIND OUT THERE IS ZERO HOMELESS THAT ARE IN THIS PROJECT WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO HOUSE HOMELESS. AND SO WOULD ASK IF YOU ASK ELLEN THE QUESTION SHE MAY YOU GIVE YOU THE MONETARY DETAILS BUT COULD YOU COME FORWARD? THANK YOU.

COULD USE A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE? GOOD MORNING.

>> SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THAT WOMAN RIGHT NOW IS HOUSED.

SHE DID GET HOUSED. AND HER INCOME WOULD MEET THE 15,000 FOR THE 15,000 THRESHOLD.

BUT MOST OF OUR HOMELESS WILL NOT MEET THAT THRESHOLD.

SO IF THE MINIMUM INCOME FOR AN INDIVIDUAL IS 15,220, THEY WILL NOT MEET THAT THRESHOLD. AND SO ARE DISABLED CURRENTLY LIVING IN THEIR CARS, HOME AGAIN HAS ABOUT EIGHT RIGHT NOW AND THREE OF THEM ARE OVER 75 YEARS OLD IN THEIR CARS AND THE INCOME IS LESS THAN $1000 A MONTH.AND SO THOSE FOLKS WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE. HOWEVER, I DID HEAR JOY MENTION THAT THERE WERE OTHER PROGRAMS AVAILABLE THAT COULD HELP THEM SUBSIDIZE INTO THOSE APARTMENTS.

BUT HOW CAN WE ASSURE THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SERVED! ET ME ASK YOU, YOU TRACKING THE CHANGE IN THE STANDARDS? WERE YO AWARE OF THOSE CHANGES THAT SHE OUTLINED?

>> I WAS NOT. >> ARE YOU AWARE WE WERE LOOKING ON 10 PERCENT FOR HOMELESS VETERANS AS WELL.

>> I WAS AWARE THAT. >> AND WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL HAVE THE SAME UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE VALIDCONCERNS. WE ARE TRYING TO MATCH OUR

UNDERSTANDING . >> I THINK TURNSTONE HAS DONE A GOOD JOB WITH THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.

BUT I STILL THINK WE NEED MORE ON PAPER THAN WHAT IS THERE.

>> SURE.HANK YOU. ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE

BOARD? >> WERE TO BE STAND IN THE RELOCATION FOR HOME AGAIN IS THIS POINT?

>> AT THIS TIME AND DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED SIDE COULD WE OFFERED A LIST OF INVENTORY POTENTIAL COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY AND POTENTIAL SUITABLE PRIVATE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE OFFERED OUR FACILITATION IN ANY ABILITY THAT WE CAN OFFER TO FACILITATE THAT CONVERSATION.

>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON? >>PAUL WALDRON: SINCE YOU ARE HERE WE ARE KIND OF WINGING IT TODAY.

BUT WHERE IS HOME AGAIN IN THAT PROCESS? IS THERE A LOCATION YOU LIKE? ARE THERE FACILITIES? I'M SORRY, YOU COULD SAY IT CLOSER.

>> I GET LOTS OF EXERCISE EVERY DAY.ANYWAY, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE URBAN GROUP. THE LAST UPDATE THEY HAD THEY ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS RIGHT NOW WITH A PROPERTY THAT THE VA HAD GIVEN. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY ONE INDIVIDUAL AND OF COURSE THE MODULUS ARE OWNED BY THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION. KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT

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THAT AND THEY BEEN MEETING WEEKLY AND I KNOW THEY ARE SEARCHING IN OTHER PLACES AS WELL TO SEE IF THEY CAN FIND A LOCATION FOR US. AS YOU KNOW, THE TIME IS TICKING ON.WE HAVE UNTIL OCTOBER 14 I BELIEVE IS THE DAY WE HAVE TO VACATE. AND SO WE HAVE BEEN BUSY PACKING. AND IF WE DO NOT FIND A LOCATION, THERE IS GOING TO BE A HUGE HOLE IN THE SERVICES THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDED TO OUR HOMELESS.

>> I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING.

I THINK WE NEED A FACILITY CLOSER TO THE SERVICES, CLOSER TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, CLOSER TO WHERE EVERYBODY IS.

YOUR SPEAKING OF AN ARRAY OF PEOPLE.

YOU ELDERLY, YOU HANDICAPPED, YOU HAVE PEOPLE ÃRIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TO WORK AT WENDY'S AND MAKE 21,020 $5000 A YEAR.

I MEAN, IF WE CAN GET PEOPLE ON THE JOB TRACK, I'M SURE THEY ARE HURTING, EVERYBODY IS HURTING FOR WORKERS.

AND SO THAT IS A BIG THING WE NEED TO SUPPORT NOW BECAUSE THEN THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BE IN THOSE KINDS OF FACILITIES OR OTHER HOUSING FACILITIES. IT IS UNFORTUNATE THERE IS SOME YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HELP GET OUT OF THAT SITUATION.

>> THAT IS TRUE THERE ARE SOME THAT WILL BE IN THE WOODS FOREVER. THAT THERE HAS BEEN A HUGE UPTICK ON THE NUMBER OF DEATHS WE HAVE HAD SO FAR THIS YEAR.

WE TRACKED THE BAT VERY CAREFULLY AND WE HONOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

LAST YEAR IT WAS UP ABOUT SIX PERCENT.

AND THIS YEAR WE HAVE ALREADY SURPASSED THE DEATHS WE HAD LAST YEAR. AND MANY ARE HEAT EXHAUSTION, INFECTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THINK WE AS A COMMUNITY HAVE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AND WE NEED TO HELP THEM HEAD FORWARD. WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH IT.

I RETIRED ROM THE COUNTY IS A SOCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR AND I WORKED IN THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ARENA FOR OVER 40 YEARS. AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT AS BAD AS I SEE IT NOW. MOST THAT I AM SEEING ON 207, THEY ARE ECONOMICALLY HOMELESS. THEY ARE NOT ADDICTED TO SUBSTANCES. SO THE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE OUT THE 20 7/4 IS SMALL. IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT POPULATION IN DOWNTOWN AUGUSTINE THEN IT IS OUT THERE.

AND WE HAD PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE DAY COMING IN AND ASKING.

AND WE DO A LOT. BUT THE TWO, MYSELF AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE VOLUNTEERS, WE DO IT ALL.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR HEART AND IT CANNOT BE ADULT DOING IT

FOR THE MONEY. >> WE ARE GOING TO GO.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHO THE BEST PERSON TO ASK THIS, BUT WHEN I HAD MY MEETING WITH HIS TEAM THERE, WE DID DISCUSS, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT DISPLACING THE HOMELESS FROM THESE NEEDED SERVICES. WHAT CAPACITY DOES ST. FRANCIS HOUSE HAVE TO TAKE ON SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT WE ARE BEING PROVIDED. DOES ANYBODY KNOW? I SPOKE WITH SOMEBODY THIS WEEK IS TO THE HOMELESS IN SHOWERS AND LAUNDRY MORE THAN ANY OTHER SERVICES AND I'M NOT SURE IF ST. FRANCIS PROVIDES THE SERVICES.

AM ACUTELY AWARE OF THE FACT IS MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO WORK, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE MANY HELP-WANTED SIGNS ALL OVER SAINT AUGUSTINE. THOSEWHO CAN'T WORK DO NEED OUR HELP. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE

ARE NOT . >> THE SHOWERS IN THE LAUNDRY ARE A HUGE HELP. WE TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE PEOPLE READING THE ONE WORKING IF WE HAVE TO MEET THEMAFTER HOURS FOR THEM TO GET A QUICK SHOWER TO BE ABLE TO GO TO WORK CLEAN , WE TRY TO DO THAT. AS FAR AS ST. FRANCIS GOES, THEY RUN THE HOUSING CRISIS CENTER TO READ IF YOU ARE NOT IN THE HOUSING PROGRAM, YOU ARE NOT PUTTING YOUR HEAD ON A PILLOW THAT NIGHT OREGON SO THEY HAVE TO BE ACTIVELY RECEIVING SERVICES. WHAT WE REMEMBER FROM 20 YEARS AGO WHEN IT WAS AN EMERGENCY SHELTER, IT'S NOT THAT ANYMORE.

THESE HOUSING CRISIS CENTER. SHOWERS ARE NOT OPEN TO THE

PUBLIC. >> JUST TO THE BOARD, I DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHETHER I WAS A PART OF THE BOARD AT THAT TIME OR NOT. BUT I HAPPEN TO LOVE THE PRODUCT THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING HERE.

I WAS AN HOURLY EMPLOYEE MAKING THE WAGES.

I COULD HAVE AFFORDED A PLACE, IN APARTMENT OR A PLACE LIKE THIS. BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO HERE. THAT IS SORT OF WHERE I AM.> I FEEL THE SAME WAY. I THINK THE PROJECT IS A GREAT PROJECT. I THINK THE CONCERN IS HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS ONGOING ISSUE HE WOULD COMMISSIONER SMITH.

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> WHAT HAPPENS TO THE FUNDING IF THIS IS NOT PROPOSED.

IF THIS IS NOT TRUE TODAY BUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS PROJECT.

>> WE WILL NOT MEET THE TIMELINE AND WE WILL FORFEIT THE PROJECT THROUGH THE FUNDING THAT COMES WITH THE PROJECT.

>> THAT MAKES MY DECISION. >> THERE YOU GO.

! COMMISSIONER WALTER?

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FROM THAT.

MATT, IS THERE A WAY THAT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME OR THE FACILITIES KEPT OPERATIONAL UNTIL WE FIND A PLACE FOR THEM TO BRING THEIR SERVICES IN ANOTHER AREA? WERE THERE IS ONE BUILDING TO BE FOR TRANSITIONAL YEAR OR TWO BEFORE IT TAKES TO GET HOME AGAIN BACK ON THE UNIT OR THEY COULD DO THE SERVICES? I WILL WAIT UNTIL YOU'RE FINISHED.

>> I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T YOU USE WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR POTENTIALLY A BLOCK OF THESE UNITS TO BE RESERVED FOR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

BUT I DO KNOW THE FACILITY DOES NOT HAVE AS COMMON AREA LAUNDRY PROPOSED, COMMON AREA FACILITIES NECESSARILY.

THAT MAY BE PROVIDED THERE NOW. I CAN SPEAK WITH TURNSTONE AND WORK THROUGH THAT ROUTE ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> YOU HAVE EARNED SOME OF THE CONCERNS HERE.

I THINK WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO GRAPPLE WITH HER IN VESELY WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THIS, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT LEAVING PEOPLE BEHIND WHO ARE COUNTING ON THIS IS A COMMITMENT. SO ANYTHING YOU CAN HELP THE FACILITY THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL! MICHAEL HARTMAN.

WE HAVE ALMOST DEVELOPMENT IN ILLINOIS, BUT TO MAKE THAT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE, WE HAD TO SECURE SECTION 8 CERTIFICATES FOR EVERY UNIT AND THEY WEREN'T AVAILABLE TO THIS COUNTY. THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED BY HOME AGAIN SIX YEARS AGO.

IN YOUR PCA CHAIRMAN, WHO IS ALSO A MEMBER OF ABILITY HOUSING, LYCOS IS A NONPROFIT THAT PROVIDES AFFORDABLE HOUSING, LOOKED AT THIS AS A TRANSITIONAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND SAID IT WASN'T ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE AND THEREFORE THEY DECLINED TO PARTNER ON THIS PROJECT.

WHEN WE ORIGINALLY SAW THE SITE, WE ASKED IF WE NEEDED TO RESERVE SOME SPACE FOR HOME AGAIN.

BECAUSE WE LIKE THEIR MISSION. WE HAVE ONE AT OUR PROPERTY IN ILLINOIS. WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY WERE GOING TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND WE SHOULD DESIGN IT 100 PERCENT AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO WE DID THAT AND MOVED FORWARD TO ALL THE PROCESSES THAT HAD TO BE APPROVED.

ONE OF THOSE PROCESSES AS JOY WAS SAYING, THERE IS WHAT IS CALLED A HUD PART 58 APPROVAL THAT TOOK US FOUR MONTHS.

IF WE WENT BACK AND CHANGED ANYTHING ON THE SITE NOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THAT PROCESS AGAIN THE COUNTY WOULD LOSE THE CBG BECAUSE WE HAVE TO START BUILDING TO MEET THE GUIDELINES. WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH HOME AGAIN, WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY.

WE ARE PARTNERING WITH THE COUNTY.

WE FEEL LIKE IT IS OUR DEVELOPMENT WITH THE COUNTY.

WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM.

WE DID WHAT THEY ASKED US TO DO WE DID WITH THE COUNTY ASKED US TO DO. THAT IS WHY WE DESIGNED IT THE

WAY WE DID. >> WE ARE GOING TO GO TO

COMMISSIONER DEAN NEXT. >>HENRY DEAN: IN ADDITION ASKING THE APPLICANT ABOUT TEMPORARY TRANSITION, WE BETTER ASK HUD BECAUSE WE MIGHT END UP BEING IN A POSITION WHERE WE

GET THE CHECK THAT. >> I UNDERSTAND.

>> I THINK WE WERE AT A POINT NOW WHERE IT IS CLEAR TO ME EACH OF US HERE SITTING HERE WANT TO DO ALL WE CAN FOR THE HOMELESS. BUT BECAUSE OF RESTRICTIONS HUD IS A PLAN, OUR HANDS ARE TIED. WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT THE FUNDS WILL REVERT AND WE WILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM. THAT IS AS SIMPLE AS I CAN SAY

IT. >> I THINK THIS PROBLEM IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH OUR

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HOMELESS POPULATION. WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK AT OPTIONS TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT.

WE HAVE THE FUNDING THAT PUTS US IN A DIFFICULT POSITION.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PROBLEM WE NEED TO ADDRESS.I GUESS WE ARE GOING OUT ORDER HERE, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

TAUGHT US THE BOARD TO DIRECT STAFF TO HELP US COME BACK WITH SOLUTIONS HERE AND WORK WITH HOME AGAIN.

REGARDLESS WHAT HAPPENS, THE PROBLEM WILL STILL BE THERE.

IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT ÃGO AHEAD.

>> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT AND WANT TO USE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ON THE RECORD DIMENSION EFFORTS REVIEW WITH HOME AGAIN IN THE COUNTY STAFF TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION PRIOR TO THIS MEETING BECAUSE WE HEARD THE CONCERNS TO MR. SCHNEIDER OFFERING AN AFFORDABLE MOU. WE SHARED WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS THROUGH THE MIDDLE LIST OF COMMITMENTS.

AND THINK FROM MY READING AND UNDERSTANDING THE COMMITMENT LARGELY ADDRESSED SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF HOME AGAIN.

THEY COMMITTED TO IF HE WERE DENYING ANYBODY REQUESTING TO BE HOUSED, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.

THEY HAVE TO GIVE A REASON WHY IN THEM TO CONTACT A LOCAL HUMAN SERVICES AGENCIES TO SEE IF WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE THEM ELIGIBLE. THERE ARE MEASURES THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM TO PUT IN PLACE TO SEE IF WE CAN FACILITATE JUST THE NEEDS YOU ARE MENTIONING.

ONE MORE THING WAS HOME AGAIN WAS NOT A HOMELESS SHELTER, BUT ALLEN HAD MENTIONED THERE WERE DAMAGE FROM SEVERE WEATHER WE SUSTAINED IN FLORIDA. ONE THING WE HAVE CONFIRMED WITH HUD THAT WOULD BE ALLOWABLE FOR US TO DO AND THAT IS REALLY THE PURPOSE OF US APPLY FOR THIS GRANT IS TO MAKE THIS EMERGENCY SHELTER. AND SO IT IS ELIGIBLE FOR US TO OPEN THE SERVICE HOLD TO SEVERE WEATHER, WHETHER IT IS HEAT OR COLD NIGHT. THAT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE OFFER.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH YOUR SUGGESTION AND I WILL TRY TO COBBLE TOGETHER A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF.

BUT I WANT TO SAY AGAIN THE WHOLE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS IN THIS COUNTY IS A MUCH BIGGER ISSUE THAN THIS APPLICATION.

IT'S A BIGGER ISSUE FOR US TO SPEND MORE TIME AND ENERGY ON AND I'M HAPPY AND WILLING TO DO THAT.REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH ITEM 7, UP OR DOWN, I THINK WE SHOULD DIRECT STAFF TO COME UP WITH A WHITE PAPER IF YOU WILL ON THE CURRENT ISSUE OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION AND WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE TO US THAT WE CAN GET MORE TIME, ATTENTION AND EFFORT TO HELP SOLVE. I KNOW SPECIFIC INSTANCES TODAY WHERE THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN THE WOODS WHO HAVE FULL-TIME JOBS. LITERALLY.

THEY ARE NOT DRINKING EVERY DAY, THEY ARE GOING TO WORK.

THEY CAN'T AFFORD EVEN WHEN WILL HOUSING AND THEY LIVE IN THE WOODS. THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.

AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO

EMBRACE YOUR OBJECTIVE. >> PLEASE.

>> I WOULD LIKE THE MOVIE DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK AT ALL THE POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVES AVAILABLE TO THECOUNTY , WHICH CAN ADDRESS SOLVING THE HOMELESS PROBLEM IN THE COUNTY, PARTICULARLY WITH PROVIDING TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND ANY OTHER BENEFITS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER TO ADDRESS THIS

PROBLEM. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.>>

SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN TO DIRECT STAFF.

WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? >> JUST FOR THE RECORD, I THINK YOUR EARLIER PUBLIC COMMENT, I THINK THIS MOTION IS ANCILLARY

TO THAT. >> THAN YOU.

>> EVERYONE PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5/0.

WE STILL HAVE THE MATTER OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

>> I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION PARIS IN IF YOU WISH.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2021.

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>> 51. >> APPROVE MAJOR MOD 2021 Ã04 VICTORIA CROSSING BASED UPON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED

IN THE STAFF REPORT >> SECOND .

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN ON A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5/0.

ALRIGHT FOLKS.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE HERE.

HOPE EVERYONE HAD A GOOD LUNCH BREAK.

[8. Public Hearing * COMPAMD 2021-11 Property Rights Element. Transmittal Hearing for a Comprehensive Plan Text amendment to include a Property Rights Element in compliance with Section 163.3199(6)(i), Florida Statutes (2021). House Bill 59 amends the Community Planning Act to require local governments to include a private property rights element in their comprehensive plan. The bill was signed by the Governor and went into effect on July 1, 2021. The new statutory language requires St. Johns County to adopt this new element “by the earlier of the date of its adoption its next proposed plan amendment that is initiated after July 1, 2021, or the date of the next scheduled evaluation and appraisal of its comprehensive plan.” Section 163.177(6)(i), Florida Statutes (2021). The new statutory language also requires the inclusion of specific language in the property rights element. The proposed Policy I. Property Rights Element, incorporates the required statutory language in Objective I.1.1. The existing property rights language in Objective A.1.16 of the Land Use Element is relocated and renumbered in Objective I.1.2. The Florida Department of Economic Opportunity (DEO) interprets the new language to require adoption of the new property rights element before the adoption of any comprehensive plan amendment, including large scale and small scale amendments requested by private property owners.]

WE WILL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 8. THIS IS A PROPERTY RIGHTS DISCUSSION. BISHOP.

>> THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

21-11 AND IT IS FOR THE TRANSMITTAL OF THE PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT. HOUSE BILL 59 AMENDED THE COMMUNITY PLANNING ACT TO REQUIRE PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT IN ALL GOVERNMENT COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.

THAT BILL BECAME EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, 2021.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS A PROPERTY RIGHTS OBJECTIVE, 116 AND RELATED PROPERTIES. HOUSE BILL 59 INCLUDED ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE TO BE INCLUDED AND REQUIRED THERE WOULD BE A PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT AS OPPOSED TO JUST AN OBJECTIVE GOAL AND POLICY. STAFF HAS ADD ELEMENT I.

NOW WE HAVE NINE ELEMENTS IN OUR COMP PLAN AND GOAL I 1 IS A STATEMENT OF PROPERTY RIGHTS AND OUR OBJECTIVE I 11 IS THE FOLLOWING RIGHTS SHALL BE CONSIDERED AND POLICY I 111 AND THESE ARE WHAT IS REQUIRED BY THE STATUTE, IS THE RIGHT OF A PROPERTY OWNER TO PHYSICALLY POSSESS AND CONTROL HIS OR HER INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY LEADING EASEMENTS, LEASES AND MINERAL RIGHTS. I 112 IS THE ABILITY TO IMPROVE THE PROPERTY FOR THE USE OF PERSON SUBJECT TO STATE LAW AND LOCAL ORDINANCES. POLICY THREE IS THE RIGHT OF A PROPERTY OWNER TO PRIVACY AND TO EXCLUDE OTHERS FROM THE PROPERTY TO PROTECT PROPERTY. POLICY FOUR IS RIGHT OF A IMPORTANT OWNER TO DISPOSE HIS OR HER PROPERTY THROUGH A SALE.

THE EXISTING OBJECTIVE A 116 HAS NOW BEEN MOVED OVER AND RELOCATED OVER INTO ELEMENT I. AND THOSE RELATED POLICIES ARE NOW I 121-I 124. THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEPARTMENT, DEO PROVIDED GUIDANCE THAT SAID THAT ANY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PACKAGE SUBMITTED AFTER JULY 1ST WOULD BE RETURNED TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT DOES NOT HAVE A PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT OR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT ALREADY INCLUDE THAT.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. THIS IS THE TRANSMITTAL HEARING FOR THE PROPERTY RIGHTS AMENDMENT.

>> STAFF HAS RECEIVED CORRESPONSENCE FROM 1,000 FRIENDS OF FLORIDA THEY PROVIDED A MODEL FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE. THE PLANNING SOME ZONING RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND STAFF OFFERS THREE FINDINGS OF FACT.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. PLANNING STAFF WORK CLOSELY WITH OFFICE OF COUNTY ATTORNEY. QUESTIONS MAY ALSO GO TO THEM.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING WITH COMMISSIONER -- >> 1000 FRIENDS AND THEY RAISED THE ISSUE OF ADEQUATE NOTICE.

I THINK UNDER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BILL OF RIGHTS, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ADEQUATE PROVISION FOR ALL OF OUR LAND USE ACTION ITEMS. SO THAT'S TO ME NOT REALLY NEEDED ANY ADDITIONAL WORK.

I ALSO FEEL LIKE I DON'T SEE ANY NEED FOR THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS TO REQUIRE A QUASI JUDICIAL VENUE OR SETTING.

I THINK WE DO A VERY GOOD JOB. I THINK WE DO QUASI JUDICIAL

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ITEMS THAT RECENTLY IN FACT ALLOWED OR REQUIRED ACTUALLY SWEARING IN OF WITNESSES AND THAT PARTICULAR ITEM THAT WE ADDRESSED I THOUGHT THAT NOT ONLY PROVIDED A SORT OF A MEASURE OF YOU KNOW EVERYONE TELLING IT LIKE IT IS.

BUT IT WAS A VERY CIVIL PROCEDURE.

EVERYONE SEEMED TO BE TAKING IT VERY SERIOUSLY.

LASTLY, I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT JUST A SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE REGARDLESS OF THE ITEM. I DON'T SUPPORT A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, FOR A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT FOR SUPER MAJORITY. I THINK WE AS A DEMOCRATIC BODY SHOULD OPERATE UNDER A SIMPLE MAJORITY.

I WANTED TO TELL EVERYONE WHAT MY POSITION WAS AS THIS GOES FORWARD BECAUSE IT WILL BE COMING BACK TO US.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> SHALL WE DO PUBLIC COMMENT? >> ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.

>> B.J. KLATY, IF MR. RESA OR SOMEONE CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING YOU HAVE TO DO THIS IN ORDER TO DO LIKE CHANGING ITEM NINE, 10, ELEVEN AND 12 BECAUSE THAT'S ABOUT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, IN THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS THAT, IS THAT THE CORRECT UNDERSTANDING OF WHY THIS HAS TO BE DONE BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE LEGISLATURE IN JULY 1ST TO BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND DO NUMBER NINE, 10 AND 11 AND 12 AS FAR AS I WAS READING SOME OF THIS INFORMATION.

IF SHE CAN ANSWER THAT OR MAYBE ONE OF YOU ALL CAN ANSWER THAT OR THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM EIGHT? YES. CHRISTINE, COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. ITEMS THAT MISS KLATY POINTED OUT WERE NOT CAUGHT UP IN THE NEW LEGISLATION.

HOWEVER, TRANSMITTAL OF ITEM TWO IS INITIATED AFTER JULY 1ST.

SO APPROVING THIS ITEM TODAY FOR THE NEW PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT WOULD ACCOMPANY TRANSMITTAL OF ITEM THREE AND ALLOW THE REVIEW.

>> THANK YOU. OKAY WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD.

I HAVE A QUESTION. >> I WANT TO ASK THE ATTORNEYS, THE NEW LANGUAGE YOU PUT UP ON THE BOARD.

DOES ANY THAT OF VIOLATE THE RULE OF PERPETUITY? I ALWAYS WANTED TO ASK THAT QUESTION.

>> DO YOU DESIRE TO BE A LAW SCHOOL PROFESSOR? HONESTLY, WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT.

THAT LANGUAGE IS PROVIDED IN THIS NEW LEGISLATION MANDATE BY

THE STATE. >> IF I MAY THROUGH THE CHAIR.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD. I WILL MAKE A MOTION.

>> OKAY. COMMISSIONER SMITH --

>> OKAY, I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE TRANSMITTAL OF 20-11 PROPERTY

RIGHTS ELEMENT MOTION THAT'S IT. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH. I'M SORRY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY

[Items 9 & 10]

COMMISSIONER DEAN AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SMITH.

COMMENT? DISCUSSION.

PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0.

THANK YOU. >> NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA

ITEM NINE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS THE SECOND READING THE FINAL ADOPTION TO FAMILY FARMS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND CODE.

THESE CAME BEFORE THIS BOARD I WANT TO SAY TWO WEEK AGO ON AUGUST 3RD. THIS HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF THE BOARD SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY. FAMILY FARMS PROVISION AMENDS THE COMPREHENSIVE POLICY A 16 FOUR AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE

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TO TERMINATE FAMILY FARMS AFTER A PERIOD OF SEVEN YEARS.

THOSE LOTS BECOME LEGAL LOTS OF RECORD.

THIS WAS INITIATED BECAUSE THERE WAS ISSUES WITH FAMILY FARMS WHERE PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO LIVE THERE ANYWHERE OR WERE MOVING AND SELLING OFF THE PROPERTY AND SUBDIVIDING SO WE FOUND QUITE A FEW INSTANCES THEY HAD TO COME BACK TO US FOR SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENTS AND WE WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE RELIEF.

THIS REDUCES THE MINIMUM ACRE AGE LOT SIZE FROM 39 TO 28 ACRES TO 40 ACRES. WE PROVIDED TWO MOTIONS.

ONE FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVISING A 16 WO, 2 AND 4 AND THERE'S PROPOSED MOTIONS FOR THIS AS WELL.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? >> WHY DON'T WE OPEN UP PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 9.

SEEING NONE. BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> BACK TO THE BOARD. COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> I WILL BE GLAD TO MOVE MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> THANK YOU. SIR.

WE WILL DO 10 AND THEN NINE. IS THAT CORRECT? I APOLOGIZE EARLIER, I WAS WAY AHEAD.

AGENDA ITEM 10. RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2021-52.

>> 52. >> TO ADOPT PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS REV REVISING A.1.1, 2, THREE, AND FOUR.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY SMITH. SECOND BY DEAN.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASS 5-0.

>> I WILL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM NINE IF IT'S ALL RIGHT.

MOTION TO ENACT 2021-53. TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO FAMILY FARM PROVISIONS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0.

[Items 11 & 12]

NUMBER 11 AS WELL. >> YES.

MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 11. THIS IS THE AGENDA NUMBER 11 AND 12. IT'S SIMILAR COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENT. THIS IS REGARDING WORK FORCE HOUSING. BACKGROUND OF WORK FORCE HOUSING. I WILL BRIEF THIS BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF THE BOARD THREE TIMES.

WE CREATED A WORK FORCE HOUSING DISTRICT IN APRIL.

REQUIRED 40% OF ALL UNITS BE SOLD AT $210,000.

THAT WAS EMBEDDED INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THESE AMENDMENTS WOULD REMOVE THAT ELEMENT FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE MAX SALES PRICE AND REMOVE IT FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. PROVIDING SOME TYPE OF METRIC OR CHANGE WITH THE COST OF INCREASED COST OF CONSTRUCTION OR DECREASED COST O CONSTRUCTION.

STAFF PROVIDED FOUR OPTIONS TO THE BOARD.

ONE USING THE ANNUAL MEDIAN INCOME.

THE SECOND OPTION USING CONSTRUCTION COSTS INDEX WITH 3% CAP. THAT WOULD RESTART ANNUALLY AT $240,000 AND COULD INCREASE. THE THIRD OPTION WAS CONSTRUCTION COST WITH 3% CAP AS WELL.

WHICH WILL COMPOUND ANNUALLY AND THE OTHER FOURTH OPTION WOULD BE TO PROVIDE THE $240,000 PRICE POINT MAXIMUM SALES PRICE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OR LEAVE IT AT $210,000.

THERE'S SEVERAL OPTIONS. POLICY DECISIONS FOR THE BOARD TO MAKE. AT THE AUGUST 3RD MEETING, SEEMED LIKE THE BOARD WAS PREFERENCED TOWARD OPTION TWO AND ONE. I WILL LEAVE THOSE UP FOR DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD AND STAFF IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD?

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SEEING NONE. WHY DON'T WE OPEN UP PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE I SUGGEST AN OPTION MYSELF.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM, WHAT ARE WE ON

>> 11. >> 11 AND 12.

YES, SIR. >> IF WE COULD, WE COULD HAVE

YOU BOTH LINE UP AT >> GOOD MORNING.

GOOD AFTERNOON. >> 4220 RACE TRACK ROAD.

WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, I HAD SHOWN YOU, I EVERYBODY HAS TALKED ABOUT LUMBER FUTURES ARE COMING DOWN.

I THINK WE HAVE ALL SEEN THAT TOO.

LAST TIME OUT I SHOWED YOU PURCHASE ORDERS SHOWING YOU WHAT WE WERE SPENDING ON LUMBER AND WANTED TO RUN THROUGH THAT ONE

MORE TIME. >> SO, AS YOU MAY RECALL THIS COMES IN TWO PACKAGES. ONE IS THE INITIAL FRAMING AND THEN AS WE GET READY TO DO THE ROOF, WE GET WHAT WE CALL A SECOND DROP. SO.

AND YOU WILL SEE I HAVE THE DATE THERE.

THEN THE PLAN NUMBERS SO YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE THE SAME THING AND OUR FIRST DROP IN JULY OF LAST YEAR WAS 3984.

THE SECOND WAS ANOTHER $1,500. WE ENDED UP WITH A TOTAL IN JULY OF LAST YEAR OF ABOUT $5,500. THIS IS A PURCHASE ORDER THAT WAS ISSUED LAST WEEK. AND ON THIS ONE YOU WILL SEE AGAIN THE DATE AND THE PLAN NUMBER IS THE SAME.

NOW IT'S UP TO A LOT OVER $10,000 FOR WHAT WE CALL THE FIRST DROP. THE SECOND ONE IS A LITTLE OVER $5,000. SO, WE'RE AT $16,400.

AS OPPOSED TO $5,500 A YEAR AGO. SO.

IT'S COMING DOWN. AND IT IS DOWN FROM THE PEAK A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. A LITTLE BIT BUT YOU CAN SEE IT'S STILL ABOUT THREE TIMES WHAT IT WAS A YEAR AGO.

THE OTHER THING WE DID NOT TALK ABOUT LAST TIME IS DEVELOPMENT COSTS. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE NUMBERS.

I HAVE GOT NUMBERS FROM TWO DEVELOPING BIDS.

ONE IS FROM JULY OF 2020. WE DO NOT HAVE THE NAME OF THE CONTRACTOR ON ANY OF THESE BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO SHARE THEIR UNIT PRICING AND THAT KIND OF THING.

THEN HERE'S ONE THAT WE JUST GOT IN AGAIN THE FIRST OF AUGUST.

SO MY GUYS HAVE GONE THROUGH AND THIS SHEET BASICALLY SHOWS OUR RECENT BID, SHOWS THE BID FROM LAST JUNE.

IT SHOWS WHAT THE INCREASE IS. OKAY.

THE FIRST SHEET IS BASICALLY EXCAVATION, STRIPPING AND THAT KIND OF THING. YOU WILL SEE IT'S UP 10, 15%.

SOME ITEMS A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT.

THOSE ARE THE ITEMS MOSTLY LABOR.

AS WE GET FURTHER INTO IT, YOU WILL SEE THAT SOME OF THESE ARE BLANK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME ITEM.

IN ONE BID AS IN THE OTHER. EACH JOB OBVIOUSLY TAKES DIFFERENT MATERIAL. THEY COMPARED EVERYTHING SIMILAR. THESE ARE GENERALLY, SOME OF THEM ARE UP OVER 50% YEAR OVER YEAR.

THEY ARE GENERALLY UP 20%, 30%. >> BOB, YOU HAVE A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION AND I HESITATE TO WIND IT DOWN.

CAN YOU SUMMARIZE? >> ONE LAST SHEET AND I'M DONE SIR. THE PVC PIPE IS THE ONE THAT'S REALLY GONE CRAZY. THAT'S UP 70%.

JUST QUICKLY I THINK THE INCREASE IS NEEDED.

EVERYONE WAS WONDERING ARE THE PRICES COMING DOWN AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL. WE STILL CAN'T GET MATERIAL AND

THE PRICES ARE CRAZY. >> BETH READING SILVER FIELD DEVELOPMENT. TWO OF US SPEAKING TODAY ARE SOME OF THE VERY FEW GROUPS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE BROUGHT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS IN FRONT OF YOU.

THE ONLY WAY WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT IS RAISE THIS AMOUNT.

I IMPLORE YOU TO HELP US CONTINUE TO SERVE THIS MARKET THAT CURRENTLY ISN'T BEING SERVED.

THANK YOU. >> IF I MAY THROUGH THE CHAIR.

WE JUST HAD TWO OF THE COMMUNITY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TALK.

DO THEY HAVE ANY SENSE OF WHICH OF THE FINAL OPTIONS TO RECOMMEND? MAYBE THEY DID? MAYBE THEY DIDN'T? IT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR THE BOARD

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TO HEAR IF THEY DID. >> THE PRICING IS GOING TO CONTINUE OVER TIME. SO, SOMETHING THAT IS TIED TO AN INDEX MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. IF PRICES DO COME DOWN, THEN OBVIOUSLY THE NUMBER CAN COME DOWN.

SO REALLY IT IS WHAT IS MAYBE, WHAT IS SIMPLEST TO ADMINISTER

AND MOST APPEALS TO THE BOARD. >> THANK YOU.

>> B.J. KLATY, CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE.

WEST NEWCOME. >> HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WORKING IN IT ST. JOHN'S COUNTY EARN $75,000 OR LESS? THIS FACT WAS IGNORED WHEN THIS ORDINANCE WAS DRAFTED.

AND EVERYTHING IS GOING UP. CHECK YOUR FOOD PRICES.

THE $240,000 PLUS SALES PRICE IS NOT AFFORDABLE.

THE $210,000 SALES PRICE SHOULD HAVE REMAINED IN THE ORDINANCE TO BENEFIT THE WORKING POOR. DEVELOPERS CAN AND WILL INCREASE THE SALES PRICE ON OTHER UNITS IN THESE DEVELOPMENTS TO INCREASE THEIR BOTTOM LINE. AND TO COVER ALL OF THESE COSTS.

THE NFRC AWARD TO THE COUNTY FOR THE WORK FORCE HOUSING ZONING DESIGNATION SHOULD BE RENAMED TLO MIROA AWARD.

I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THE AFFORDABLE.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE DOING IT. I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO MAKE MONEY. THAT'S FINE.

WE'RE NOT REALLY DEALING WITH THE ONES THAT REALLY NEED A HOME AS FAR AS YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> I THINK THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC

COMMENT >> THANK YOU MR. VICE CHAIR.

PUBLIC COMMENT CONCLUDED. WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> RIGHT. SO IF THE BOARD WOULD CONSIDER ITEM 12. COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION.

I'M CURIOUS AS TO BY GOAL OR OBJECTIVE PATRICK IS TO ADOPT A MOTION WHICH INCLUDES OPTION NUMBER 2 WHICH IS THE CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX OF 3% CAP WHICH WE DISCUSSED ON AUGUST 3RD. DO I MAKE A MOTION ON 12? 11. WHICH ONE FIRST? I WAS GOING TO INSERT THE OPTION 2 ON THE MOTION ON ITEM 11 GIVEN THE SECOND OPTION HERE. THE SECOND MOTION.

>> I'M NOT SURE WHY I DO 12 FIRST.

HELP ME OUT. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, BECAUSE IT'S THE AMENDMENT TO THE COMP PLAN TO REMOVE THE 210 CAP.

>> SO THAT'S 12. >> SO DO 12 FIRST AND THEN THE

LDC CONSIDERATION. >> I WILL MOVE TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2021-54. TO ADOPT PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVISING POLICY A .1, .11.1 POINT M SUBJECT TO THREE

FINDINGS OF FACT. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD?

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO SAY I WILL NOT SUPPORT EITHER ONE.

I THINK THE 210 PRICE WAS ORIGINALLY AGREED ON AND THINGS ARE CHANGING AND WILL COME DOWN. IN THE ORIGINAL MEETING, IT WAS NOT PROFITS OF 40%. THEY NEEDED TO MAKE A PROFIT.

THE 60% WERE SOLD AT MARKET RATES WHICH THEY ARE PROBABLY GETTING 30 TO 40% MORE THAN THAN WERE A YEAR AGO.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHY I'M VOTING AGAINST IT.

I LIKE THE COST ANALYSIS BUT I THINK IT'S FINE AT 210.

>> THANK YOU. SIR.

ANY FURTHER COMMENT OR DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD.

SEEING NONE. PLEASE VOTE.

NOT WORKING. >> THAT PASSES 4-1.

>> I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION ON

MR. >> PLEASE.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2021-55.

TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO WORK FORCE HOUSING PROVISION OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WITH THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS, WHICH I WILL REFER TO OPTION 2.

3% CAP WHICH WE STARTS AT $240,000.

>> SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER

[13. Amendment to Board's Rules & Policies concerning request for funding. After Board discussion, OCA has drafted language to amend the Board's Rules & Policies adding language pertaining to funding requests. Rule 4.304 Request for Funding, Limitation Request for Board approval of funding for any particular matter shall be placed on the published regular agenda or consent agenda. Any funding request that is not so published shall be limited to $5,000 or less. Nothing herein shall limit the Board from revising and approving a published request for funding after Board consideration and public comment.]

DEAN AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

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ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENT FROM THE BOARD? SEEING NONE. PLEASE VOTE.

THAT PASSES 4-1. THANK YOU.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 13.

MR. MCCORMACK. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

THIS IS AN ITEM TO HAVE THE BOARD CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR BOARD RULES AND POLICIES WHICH IF APPROVED BY THE BOARD WOULD HAVE THE EFFECT OF ADDING A RULE 4.304, I THINK YOU CAN READ IT THERE. IT'S IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE.

ESSENTIALLY THIS IS DESIGNED SO THAT IF THERE ARE FUNDING REQUESTS, THEY BE PART OF YOUR PUBLISHED AGENDA.

PUBLISHED REGULAR OR CONSENT AGENDA.

IF NOT, THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO $5,000 OR LESS.

NOW, THE BOARD RULES AND POLICIES DOES HAVE A PROVISION THAT THEY MAY BE SUSPENDED. IF THEY WERE SOME EMERGENCY SITUATION OR SOME OTHER VERY TIME CRITICAL SITUATION WHERE AT THAT POINT, FOUR OUT OF FIVE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD WANT TO APPROVE IT BY SUSPENDING THE RULES, THAT CERTAINLY CAN BE DONE. SO THAT IS JUST PROFFERED TO THE BOARD FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.

>> IS THERE ANY COMMENT OR DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD?

COMMISSIONER SMITH >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OCA FOR COMPOSING THIS. I THINK IT WILL HELP AND RESOLVE ISSUES I HAD. THANK YOU.

>> I AGREE. LET ME SAY AS WELL.

I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AGENDA ITEMS. AGAIN THIS STILL ALLOWS US TO BRING UP COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.

SOMETHING WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT OR FEEL WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

WE CAN PUT ON THE NEXT RECORD OR AGENDA.

IF AN EMERGENCY SITUATION COMES UP, IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY.

THIS WAS A GREAT POINT AND ONE WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

WHY DON'T WE OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 13? ITEM 13.

PUBLIC >> SEEING NONE.

BACK TO YOU. >> THANK YOU.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> I WILL MOVE THIS IF YOU DON'T MIND MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> MOTION TO ADOPT 2021-361. ADDING RULE FOR 4.03 TO THE

BOARD RULES AND POLICY. >> SECOND.

[15. Consider appointments to the Health & Human Services Advisory Council. There are currently two vacancies on the Health & Human Services Advisory Council (HHSAC). These vacancies are due to the resignation of Dr. Tina D' Alessandro and Ms. Kelly Battell. These vacancies require the appointment of a professional from the disciplines in Health & Human Services. Please find attached for your review and consideration a letter of recommendation from the Health and Human Services Advisory Council and three applications: Allen Drozd - District 3, Kim Elmore - District 3, and Lorraine Keith - District 5.]

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE

>> PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0.

AGENDA ITEM 14 HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA TODAY.

WE WILL MOVE TO 15. CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. BOARD AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, MELISSA LUNDQUIST. TO ANSWER APPOINTMENTS TO HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICE ADVISORY. THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES ON THE COUNCIL, DUE TO THE RESIGNATION. OF TINA ALESSANDRO AND KELLY

BATTEL. >> ATTACHED IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL AND THREE APPLICATIONS. THAT'S THE BASICS OF THIS ITEM.

IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY. WHY DON'T WE OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY. >> PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 15.

PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NONE, BACK TO

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> MR. CHAIRMAN.

AS THE LIAISON WITH THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL. I AM HAPPY TO MOVE THIS.

>> PLEASE SIR. >> MOTION TO APPOINT LORRAINE KEITH TO THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR A TERM SET TO EXPIRE SEPTEMBER 2022.

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>> MOTION BY SMITH. SECOND BY WALDRON.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0.

>> MOTION TO APPOINT KIM ELMORE TO THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR A PARTIAL TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE

[16. Consider appointments to the South Anastasia Design Review Board. Currently there are five vacancies on the South Anastasia Design Review Board (3 regular & 2 alternate). All five vacancies are due to expired terms. Some of these vacancies have been advertised multiple times since their occurrence, with the latest vacancy advertisement being placed in April 2021. Please note due to lack of a quorum, the South Anastasia Design Review Board (SADRB) has been unable to meet. In light of not being able to obtain a quorum, staff is requesting appointments be made without recommendations from SADRB. Please find attached for review and consideration three applications: Stephen Lieberman - District 3, Austin Martin - District 3, and Janet Patten - District 3.]

JULY 21, 2024, COMPLETING TERM OF KELL BATTEL.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH AND SECOND BY WALDRON.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

PLEASE VOTE. >> THAT PASSES 5-0.

>> ON TO AGENDA ITEM 16. >> AGENDA ITEM 16 IS TO CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE SOUTH ANASTASIA DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.

THERE ARE FIVE VACANCIES. THREE REGULAR MEMBERS AND TWO ALTERNATES. ALL FIVE ARE SET TO EXPIRE TERMS. THE VACANCIES WERE ADVERTISED MULTIPLE TIMES. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE BOARDS WE DO HAVE ISSUE WITH TRYING TO COVER THAT GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S LIMITED. AREA.

THE LATEST VACANCY ADVERTISEMENT WAS PLACED IN APRIL OF 2021.

WE RECEIVED THREE APPLICATIONS FROM THAT ADVERTISEMENT.

SO THIS BOARD HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO MEET DUE TO A LACK OF A QUORUM BECAUSE OF THAT MEMBERSHIP.

IN LIGHT OF THAT, I'M BRINGING THESE THREE APPLICATIONS FORWARD TO YOU TO CONSIDER APPOINTING THE THREE APPLICANTS.

THAT'S THE BASICS OF THIS ITEM. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, I'M

HAPPY TO ANSWER. >> WHY DON'T WE OPEN UP FOR

PUBLIC >> PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. STEVEN LIEBERMAN.

I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF TO THE BOARD AND THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING MY APPLICATION AND I WOULD VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO WORK ON THE COMMISSION.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK THAT CLOSES

COMMENT. >> BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> I DON'T MIND MOVING THIS IF YOU WANT.

THERE ARE THREE APPLICANTS AND I WILL MOVE THEM ALL IN ONE MOTION. MOTION TO APPOINT STEVEN LIEBERMAN, AUSTIN MARTIN AND JANET PATENT AS REGULAR MEMBERS OF THE SOUTH ANASTASIA REVIEW BOARD SET TO EXPIRE

[17. Consider appointments to the Affordable Housing Advisory Committee (AHAC). The purpose of the Affordable Housing Advisory Committee (AHAC) is to review established policies, procedures, ordinances, land development regulations, and the adopted local government comprehensive plan to recommend specific action or initiatives to encourage or facilitate affordable housing while protecting the ability of the property to appreciate in value. Currently there are three vacancies on the Affordable Housing Advisory Committee (AHAC). The vacancies are due to the expired terms of Bill Lazar, Harry Maxwell, and Karl Vierck. All three vacancies were advertised in January of 2021. The vacancies arerequired to be filled by St. Johns County residents who are: 1) engaged as a not for profit provider of affordable housing, 2) engaged actively as a real estate professional, and 3) engaged as a for profit provider of affordable housing. Please find attached for your review and consideration a recommendation letter from the AHAC and four applications: Bill Lazar - District 3, Harry Maxwell - District 3, Ellen Rogers - District 4, and Karl Vierck - District 3.]

2025. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH AND SECOND BY WALDRON.

ANY DISCUSSION BY THE BOARD? SEEING NONE.

PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0.

CONGRATULATIONS. ON TO AGENDA ITEM 17.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, AG AGENDA ITEM 17 IS CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THERE ARE THREE VACANCIES DUE TO THE EXPIRED TERMS OF BILL LAZAR, HARRY MAXWELL AND CARL VIERCK.

ALL THREE VACANCIES WAS ADVERTISED IN 2021.

THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY REQUIRED TO BE FILLED BY ONE A CITIZEN ENGAGED AS A NOT FOR PROFIT PROVIDER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND REAL ESTATE AGENT AND FOR PROFIT PROVIDER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. FOUR APPLICATIONS ARE PROVIDED.

TWO OF MEMBERS THAT ARE REQUESTING REAPPOINTMENT WOULD REQUIRE BECAUSE THEY HAVE SERVED ON MORE THAN TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS, IT WOULD REQUIRE TO SUSPEND YOUR BOARD RULE 2.203 C TO APOINT THE NUMBERS. I HAVE INCLUDED THOSE SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION. THAT'S THE BASICS OF THIS ITEM.

IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> THANK YOU. WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD.

ANY QUESTIONS? IN TERMS.

>> WHY DON'T WE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 17. I SEE NONE.

THAT CLOSES PUBLIC COMMENT. >> PUBLIC COMMENT NOW CLOSED BACK TO THE BOARD. IF THERE AREN'T ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE GLAD TO MOVE THIS. I'M THE LIAISON TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I CAN DO THIS IN THREE SEPARATE MOTIONS OR I CAN MAKE ONE MOTION REFERS TO WHAT SLOT THEY FILL

AND GIVE A NAME. >> IF THERE'S A UNANIMOUS VOTE, YOU CAN DO IT IN A SINGLE MOTION.

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IF IT'S NOT UNANIMOUS, YOU NEED TO BREAK THEM UP.

>> I'M SUPPOSED TO BE PREDETERMINED WHAT THE VOTE IS BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION? I WILL JUST DO ONE AT A TIME.

THAT'S FINE. I WOULD LIKE TO -- COMMISSIONER

DEAN. >> I NEED TO SUSPEND THE BOARD RULE. I THINK SO.

>> YES, SIR. IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A

MOTION. >> LIMITING THE TERMS TO TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS. IS THAT ALSO DEPENDENT ON WHO I

NOMINATE? >> YES, SIR.

SO TWO OUT OF FOUR APPLICANTS, THREE OF THEM ARE ASKING FOR REAPPOINTMENT. 2-4 TOTAL APPLICANTS, IF YOU'RE OPTING TO MAKE A MOTION, YOU NEED TO SUSPEND THE RULE.

>> I MOVE TO SUSPEND RULE 2.03. >> SECOND.

WE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. PASSES 5-0.

>> OKAY I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT HARRY MAXWELL AS A FOR-PROFIT PROVIDER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING SET TO EXPRE

AUGUST 17, 2025. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SMITH? FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. PLEASE VOTE.

>> PASSES 5-0. >> I WILL MOVE TO REAPPOINT BILL LAZAR TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY FOR A NOT FOR PROFIT BUSINESS SET TO EXPIRE AUGUST 17, 2025.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DAIN.

SECOND DEAN, -- MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN, SECOND

SMITH. >> PLEASE VOTE.

>> PASSES 5-0. >> AND LASTLY, I WILL MOVE TO REAPPOINT CARL VIERCK AS A REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL TO THE

AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY. >> MOTION BY DEAN, SECOND BY SMITH. ANY DISCUSSION?

PLEASE VOTE. >> EXCUSE ME.

THAT PASSES 5-0. CONGRATULATIONS.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE NEED A MOTION TO

[18. Consider appointment to the Tourist Development Council. There is currently one vacancy on the Tourist Development Council due to the expired term of Mrs. Diane Mataraza. The vacancy may be filled by either a non-accommodation tourism related representative or an owner/operator of a tourist accommodation subject to the bed tax. The vacancy was advertised in April 2021 for a four week span. Please find attached for review and consideration a letter of recommendation from the Tourist Development Council and sixteen applications. Accommodations applicants: Shannon Dearin - District 1, Irving Kass - District 2, Bill McClure - District 3, Charles Robles - District 5, and Stephanie Wyland - District 3. Non-Accommodations applicants: Zachary Cole - District 3, Kathy Fleming - District 5, Kathy Hiester - District 4, Peter Karpen - District 4, Kimberly Keen - District 3, Terran McGinnis - District 5, Victor Raymos - District 1, Albert Syeles - District 5, Thomas Walsh - District 5, Christopher Waters - District 1, and Sarina Wiechens - District 1.]

REINSTATE. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO

THE RULE. >> SECOND.

>> HAVE A MOTION BY DEAN, SECOND BY SMITH.

PLEASE VOTE. THE RULE IS REINSTATED.

THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL GO INTO AGENDA ITEM

18. >> SO LAST OF THE APPOINTMENTS HERE. THIS IS TO CONSIDER APPOINTMENT TO THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL.

THERE'S A VACANT SEAT. FOR DIANNE MATARAZA.

THIS SEAT MAYBE FEELED BY A NONTOURIST RELATED PROVIDER REPRESENTATIVE OF A OWNER, OPERATOR OF TOURIST ACCOMODATION. ATTACHED FOR CONSIDERATION.

THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL AND 16 APPLICATIONS. THAT'S THE BASICS OF THIS ITEM.

IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.

>> SEEING NONE, WHY DON'T WE OPEN UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 18. SEEING NONE.