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[Call meeting to order.]

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COVERAGE I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MICHAEL FIRST. GLU MR. CHAIR.

MIKE ROBERTSON GROWTH MANAGEMENT. JUST A QUICK STATEMENT FOR ALL OF THOSE TRYING TO WATCH ONLINE THROUGH THE GTV, AKA GOVERNMENT TV WHICH I THINK IS THROUGH THE LOCAL CABLE. THERE'S A TECHNICAL DIFFICULT AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE UP BEFORE THIS IS OVER. THE ALTERNATIVE TO THAT FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO WATCH IS THROUGH THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY GOVERNMENT WEBSITE AND ON THE FRONT PAGE THERE'S ALWAYS A GTV WATCH MEETINGSION LINK ON THE RIGHT SIDE. IF YOU CLICK ON THAT, THAT STREAMING WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR YOU. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE. UNFORTUNATELY WEBSITES A TECHNICAL ISSUE. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE RESOLVED.

THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. BUT IT IS COMMERCIAL-FREE,

RIGHT? >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> NO MORE POLITICAL ADS? ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT A COUPLE SCRIPTS TO READ CONFIRMING MEMBER ACCESS.

AS A PRELIMINARY MATTER I'M MIKE KOPPENHAFER CHAIR OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING ACCESS.

PERMIT ME TO CONFIRM THAT ANY AGENCY MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT PHYSICALLY PRESENT CAN HEAR ME AS WELL AS A ROLL CALL FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE. FELLOW AGENCY MEMBERS, WHEN I CALL IR NAME PLEASE RESPOND IN AFFIRMATIVE. MIKE KOPPENHAFER HERE.

ARCHIE WAINRIGHT. >> HERE. >> DR. MCCORMICK.

>> HERE. >> DR. HILSENBECK. >> HERE.

>> MSES PERKINS. >> HERE. >> MR. ALAIMO.

>> HERE. >> AND MR. MATOVINA. >> HERE.

>> THANK YOU ALL. AND THANK YOU, SPECIAL THANK YOU FOR THE THOUGH HAVE THOSE OF US ATTENDING HERE. INTRODUCTION TO MEETING INCLUDING REMOTE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. GOORCH AND WELCOME TO THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY. IN ORDER TO MITIGATE THE TRANSMISSION OF THE CARBON AND REDUCE RISK OF COVID-19 ILLNESS, THE GOVERNOR HAS SUSPENDED THE RAIMPLET PHYSICAL QUORUM EXCEPT

FOR TODAY NOW, I BELIEVE -- >> MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO CORRECT THAT, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY AN OLD SCRIPT. YOU CAN DELETE THAT. WE DO REQUIRE A PHYSICAL QUORUM BUT WE ARE STILL ALLOWED AS YOU'RE ABOUT TO SAY TO HAVE REMOTE PARTICIPATION.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> LET'S SEE. MOVING ON.

LOOB WITH PRIOR COMMUNICATIONS INCLUDING EMAIL, FUMBLE WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT BY TELEPHONE WHILE WATCHING THE MEETING VIA GTV OR BY STREAMING POSTED ON COUNTY WEBSITE THE WEBSITES ALSO PROVIDES A TELEPHONE NUMBER TO USE TO CALL INTO THE MEETING. EVEN IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DO NOT PRESERVE COPT, PARTICIPANTS ARE ADVISED THAT PEOPLE MAY BE LISTENING WHO DO NOT PROVIDE COMMENT, AND THOSE PERSONS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED. FOR THOSE OF YOU CALLING IN TO COMMENT, IF YOU RECEIVE A BUSY SIGNAL, PLEASE CALL BACK. IN ADDITION, PLEASE SELF-TIME THE THREE-MINUTE TIME LILT BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THE THREE-MINUTE COMMENT TIMER WILL BE VISIBLE TO YOU BECAUSE OF AN APPROXIMATELY 30 SECOND DELAY IN THE TRANSMISSION OF THE MEETING, YOUR TIMING WILL BE MORE ACCURATE. FINALLY, PLEASE MUTE YOUR PHONE WHILE YOU ARE WAITING TO COMMENT. AND MUTE THE MEETING ON YOUR TELEVISION OR COMPUTER WHEN YOU ARE SPEAKING. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT A DELAY WILL ALSO BE APPLY TO VISH KUEHL YOU'LL EXPRERKSZ IF WE EXPERIENCE ANY TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WE WILL RECESS WHILE THEY ARE SOLD AND THEN RETIEWMG IS MEETING.

ME GO MATERIALS. THERE ARE MATERIALS FOR THIS MEETING AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE P. GO TO THE HOME PAGE, AGENDA/MINUTES AND CLICK ON THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY MEETING AND YOU WILL SEE THE LINKS TO THE AGENDA AND THE INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEMS IN ORDER TO ACCESS ALL OF THE SUPPORTING MATERIALS.

ROLL CALL VOTE. FINALLY, IF ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD IS PARTICIPATING REMOTELY, THEN EACH VOTE TAKEN IN THIS MEETING WILL BE CONDUCTED VIA ROLL CALL.

NOW WITH THAT ONE PART OVER, WE'VE GOT A READING OF THE PUBLIC NOTICES STATEMENT BY VICE

CHAIR MR. WAINRIGHT. >> HI, EVERYONE. THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN CON CURSING WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TE AGENCY'S AREA OF JURISDICTION AE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUO OFFER COMMENTS AT A DESIGNATED E DURING THE HEARING.

ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC DESIRIO SPEAK MUST INDICATE SO BY COMPI COMPLETING A SPEAKER CARD WHICH IS VOLLEYBALL IN THE FOYER. ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS MAY BE HEARD ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN SPEAKER CARDS MAY BE TURNED IN . THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIM THE MEETING ON EACH ITEM AND FOR A LENGTH OF TIME THAT'S DESIGNATED BY DHAIRM, WHICH SHALL BE THREE MINUTES SPEAKERS SHALL IDENTIFY THEMSELM THEY REPRESENT, AND THEN STATE R

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ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIM. IF THEY DO NOT, THE FACT THAT TY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED E AGENCY IN DETERMINING THE WEIGHR TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY.

II. IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL AY DECISION MADE WITH RESPECT TO AY MATTERS CONSIDERED AT THE HEARING, SUCH PERSON WILL NEED A RECORD OF PRS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MAH RECORD INDICATES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED. ANY PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENTARY EVIE PRESENTED DURING A HEARING, SUCS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS, PHOTOGRAPHS, R WRITTEN STATEMENTS, WILL BE RETY STAFF AS PART OF THE RECORD. THE RECORD WILL THEN BE AVAILABR OTHER BOARDS OR THE COUNTY IN A OF APPEALS RELATED TO THE ITEM. III. BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THATE BEGINNING OF EACH ITEM THEY SHOE WHETHER THEY HAD ANY COMMUNICATH THE APPLICANT OR ANY OTHER PERSN REGARDING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE M OUTSIDE THE FORMAL HEARING OF TE AGENCY.

IF SUCH COMMUNICATION HAS OCCUR AGENCY MEMBER SHALL THEN IDENTIFY PERSON INVOLVED IN THE MATERIALT OF THE COMMUNICATION. LAST, CIVILITY CLAUSE WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANR EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE. WE WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO

THE ISSUES. WE WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS. >> THANK YOU, ARCHIE.

[Approval of meeting minutes for PZA 8/20/20]

UP NEXT THE APPROVAL MEETING MINUTES FROM AUGUST 20, 2020. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS

DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES. >> I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THOSE MINUTES, BUT WITH A CORRECTION. THE CORRECTION IS ON ITEM 3, THE REZONING OF ST. JOHNS POLICY AND PARTNERSHIP. THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE BY ME TO APPROVE, RECOMMEND APPROVAL, THE CONCERN I HAVE IS I DON'T WANT OUR ESTEEMED COUNTY ATTORNEY AND I MYSELF TO BE ACCUSED AT ALL OF NEPOTISM. PATRICK IS NOT MY FATHER.

HE'S NOT EVEN MY UNCLE. IN FACT, WE'RE NOT EVEN RELATED. BUT I AM A MC AND HE GOES A MAC.

I DON'T WANT TO BE DR. MAC CORE MECHANIC. >> WE HAVE SOME EXPLANATION AND

MOTION TO APPROVE. DO I HEAR A SECOND IN. >> SECOND.

>> THANK YOU, MEGAN. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FIRST DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE WE'LL DO A VOICE VOTE TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES OF AUGUST 20, 2020.

ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE, MEETING MINUTES ARE APPROVED AND SO FILED. UP NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. THIS IS WHERE WE OPEN THE MICROPHONES TO THE PUBLIC WHO CAN SPEAK ON ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE ROOM? SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE, SIR?

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE WILL CROWS CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION AND WE WILL SEGUE OVER THE ITEM NUMBER 1.

[1. ZVAR 2020-21 Stratton Boulevard Variance.]

BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE DOVE AN EXTREMELY FULL AGENDA, GUYS. THIS IS THE FULLEST ONE I'VE EVER SEEN, AND SO PLEASE BE BRIEF AND THOUGHTFUL OF THE TIME HERE BECAUSE WE'D LIKE TO GET THROUGH ALL OF THEM TODAY AND NOT HAVE ANOTHER 12 AT THE NEXT MEETING.

AT ANY RATE, KAREN, WELCOME. HOW ARE YOU? >> THANK YOU.

I AM GOOD. EVERYBODY IS. AND I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF AS WELL. I DO KNOW ONE NEW MEMBER IS HERE THAT WAS NOT HERE LAST TIME, SO I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE WHOLE THING BUT TRY TO AGAIN MAKE IT QUICK.

I'M KAREN TAYLOR, 77 SARAGOSSA STREET. WITH ME IS HANK WETSTONE WHO IS THE OWNER. CHRIS BUTTERMORE A CIVIL ENGINEER HA DID THE ENGINEERING FOR THE SITE. I UNDERSTOOD THERE MIGHT, SOME QUESTIONS TODAY ABOUT SOME OF THE DRAINAGE. AS WELL AS FRANK DIMARE WHO IS THE CONTRACTOR FOR IT AS WELL.

AND AS A LITTLE EX PARTE, YOU ALL MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT YOU HAVE THESE.

I DID SEND EMAILS TO THE FOLKS THAT VOTED AGAINST THIS LAST TIME, JUST TO OPEN UP A DIALOGUE. I DID SPEAK TO, AND THEY PROBABLY WILL TELL YOU AS THEY COME ALONG, DR. MCCORMICK, MR. MATOVINA, AND MR. HILSENBECK.

I SPOKE WITH ALL THREE OF THEM AS WELL. SO JUST TO KEEP THINGS ABOVE BOARD.

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SO THE REQUEST IS FOR A VARIANCE SPECIFIC BUFFER REQUIREMENTS FOR BUFFERING SIZE AND SCREENING STS UNDER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND JUST A QUICK, THIS PROPERTYS 1.39 ACRES OF THE 8.3 ACRES HA S RECENTLY REZONED JUST OFF STRATN BOULEVARD HAD TO CW. AND THE RESULT OF THE CHANGE FRO CW, WHICH ALLOWS FOR LIGHT INDUL USES SUCH AS WAREHOUSES, DOES RN INCREASED BUFFER REQUIREMENT FR0 TO A 30. THIS PROPERTY WAS UNDER CONSTRUT THE TIME, UNDER CG SO THAT THEYY HAVE A 20-FOOT BUFFER. AND ALTHOUGH THE APPLICANT WAS E AWARE THAT THE REZONING WOULD CE ADDITIONAL BUFFERING, HE WAS UNE IMPRESSION THAT THAT WOULD NOT O THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING SINCE D ALREADY BEEN PERMITTED. HE WAS ADVISED OF THAT IN JULY T WAS INCORRECT, AND THAT'S WHY WE TODAY. SO JUST AS A WAY BACK, THAT JUSS THE FULL 3.48 ACRES AND THE 1.3, KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF THE RELP AND THE LOSS OF SEBASTIAN COVE. WE DID GO THROUGH THE ZONING ANE QUITE A FEW SON SESSIONS FOR TH- CONCESSIONS FOR THOSE RESIDENTS. IT IS AN AREA.

ZONING IS CW, AS I MENTIONED PDS THE SITE PLAN AND THIS IS THE SN THAT WAS SHOWN AT THE ZONING HES WELL. AND BASICALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOE FIRST BUILDING, AND THE FIRST BK YOU -- BASICALLY IT SHOWS YOU TW ACCESS POINTS AND THE AREAS ANDO SHOWED THAT THE BUILDING WERE GO BE FACING EACH OTHER. THE INITIAL PHASE, WHICH IS WHAE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, SHOWS THE .

IT ACTUALLY IS ALSO THE EASEMENT CONNECTS BACK TO STRATTON BOULE. IT ALSO COVERS THE RETENTION ARH IS UP IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA A. THIS IS THE MOST RECENT AERIAL D FIND, BUT THE BUILDING IS ACTUAY COMPLETE BY NOW, BUT YOU CAN SEE RETENTION POND AND THE DRIVES AS POINTS.

THERE IS STILL A BIT OF WORK TOE ON THAT BUT IT'S COMING TO A CO. AND AGAIN, THAT'S A LITTLE CLOSO THE FRONT OF THE SITE. BUT IT DOES SHOW YOU THE SITE WE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, WHICH IS TN THE SOUTH, AND IN RELATIONSHIP E PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, WHICH ISD OPEN RURAL.

THE SITE PLAN QUESTION, THIS WAE INITIAL APPROVAL BY THE COUNTY T SHOWS THE ENTRANCE ROAD SHOWS TE PARKING, SHOWS A SIDEWALK THAT O AROUND THE BACK OF THE BUILDINGD SHOWS THE 20-FOOT BUFFER AND SE.

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE INITIAL APL AND SHOWS THE GRADING PLAN. AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, THIS SITEO BE RAISED ALMOST TO THE LEVEL OF STRATTON BOULEVARD, WHICH IS QUT HIGHER THAN THE PROPERTIES ADJAO IT. THIS IS THE BUILDING IN QUESTIO. IT IS PRETTY MUCH COMPLETED.

THIS IS THE BACK, THE EXISTING VEGETATION ON THE SITE. THIS KIND OF JUST SHOWS YOU THE ELEVATION CHANGE THAT WE'RE KINF TALKING ABOUT AND THE RELATIONSA 6-FOOT HIGH FENCE THAT THE ADJAT PROPERTY OWNER HAS. SO WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR THE VAO THE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS, AND AGE BUILDING WAS APPROVED, MER PERMD CONSTRUCTED UNDER THAT MISLED REQUIREMENT OF THE CG.

WE STILL NEED ALL THE SETBACKS. THE 15-FOOT FRONT YARD, 5-FOOT E YARD, 10-FOOT REAR YARD CG REQUO GO TOW 15, 15 AND 15, AND WE DOT THOSE AS WELL. IT'S THE BUFFER THAT WE DO NOT.

AND AS I SAID, THAT, ALONG WITHE SCREENING, THE BUFFER HAS TO DOE DISTANCE TO THE 20 TO 30 AND LEE C SCREENING REQUIREMENT AS A MAY WALL, AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY THS DESIGNED, THAT IS -- MAKES THISY DIFFICULT TO PUT A WALL THERE, E WALL DOESN'T REALLY ACCOMPLISH Y MUCH.

SO THE REDUCTION IS FOR THE BUFR WIDTH FROM 30 TO 20, AND AGAIN D GONE OVER THAT BEFORE BECAUSE OE

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RAISED SITE, AND THAT RANGES ALT AREA FROM 5.75 FEET TO 7.35 FEE, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE.

AND ON THE LOCATION, AND THAT'SA NEWER REQUIREMENT. SO THE INITIAL DEVELOPMENT HAD T YOU WIDE AREA OR FOR A SWIATKIEN THE BACK AND RETAINING WALL. IT HAD APPROVED LANDSCAPE PLANSA PRIVACY FENCE ALONG THE PROPERT. AND AS THEY WERE WORK, ON THE CONSTRUCTION THEY DISCOVERED THA UTILITIES EASEMENT THAT HAD TO E ACCOMMODATED WITHIN THAT BUFFERD THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUTE VIABILITY THAT OF PARTICULAR EP. SO THE APPLICANT WAS REQUESTED D REDESIGN THAT PORTION OF THE SI.

ONE THING IN PARTICULAR THAT THD WAS THEY TOOK ALL THE ROOF RUNOM THE FRONT THAT WOULD HAVE GONE E BASKET OF BUILDING AND WOULD HAE ONTO THE SIDEWALK. THEY REMOVED THE SIDEWALK AS WE.

BUT ALL THE GUTTERING SYSTEM EIS TO THE UNDERGROUND SYSTEM OR GOE FRONT SYSTEM.

SO THEY ELIMINATED THAT RETAINI. AND WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING NOW STT WIDE PLANTING AREA.

THERE'S ACTUALLY A STOOP AS YOUD COME OUT OF THAT DOOR BUT THEY T CONNECT, 2-FOOT WIDE PLANTING AT THE TOP THAT WOULD HAVE A 6-FOOL VEGETATION ON IT. AND WE'RE ASKING TO ELIMINATE T.

AND THE WALL, BECAUSE OF THAT EG SLOPE AND HOW CLOSE THAT IS TO E PROPERTY, IN ORDER TO BUILD THA, YOU REALLY HAVE TO CUT INTO THEY BE, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS PROPERTY AS WELL.

HE'S GOT QUITE A LOT OF VEGETATN THERE. AND THE FOOTERS WOULD HAVE COMPD THAT. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR A DIFFERENCE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT H WE'RE HAVING FOR VEGETATION TO P THAT. AGAIN, THIS IS THE MOD CP AND YN SEE THAT THERE ARE SMALL PADS BE BUILDING, AND AGAIN ALL THE RUNS DPRENGTD SO THE ONLY RUN OFF THN THAT SLEEP, THE RUNOFF THAT EXID BEFORE. AND I DO HAVE CHRIS HERE TO DISS JUST A LITTLE BIT. I'LL SHOW YOU A COUPLE PICTURESE WALKS UP TO KIND OF LOOK AT IT E ENGINEERING THAT ADD THIS HAD. THIS WAS A MOD CP AND THIS WAS D BY THE COUNTY.

AND I CAN FLIP BACK TO THIS IF S IT. THIS KIND OF SHOWS YOU THIS IS R PICTURE AND IT SHOWS YOU THOSE N THE BACK RATHER THAN A SIDEWALK. THERE'S THE INITIAL SOD THAT'S T DOWN JUST TO START AND YOU CAN E GUTTERS ALONG THE BUILDING AS WT HAVE BEEN, AGAIN, THE WATER HASN REMOVED. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT A 6-FO. SO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AT WALL, AS YOU SEE, THE ADJACENT Y HAS A 6-FOOT FENCE. BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN SLOPE T DOESN'T SCREEN IT VERY WELL. AND THERE YOU CAN SEE LOOKING IS PROPERTY AS WELL.

SO THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR A B SCRG STANDARD. WE'RE CALLING IT A B PLUS BECAUT ADDS TWO LAYERS OF VEGETATION AS THE GRASS. THE CANOPY TREES, AND THEN, AS , THE 6-FOOT HIGH VEGETATION OUTSF THAT LITTLE AREA AT THE TOP OF . AND THAT'S JUST THE LANDSCAPE P.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. I'LL KIND OF TURN IT OVER TO CHE CAN KIND OF EXPLAIN THE SLOPE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. CHRIS BUTTERMORE WITH MATTHEWS N GROUP, THE ENGINEER ON THIS PROD I KNOW THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT POTENTIAL EROSION SO I WANT TO E TOY HOPEFULLY EASE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS PERFECT FOR THE SLOPE T OFF, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON IN A TWOE SLOPE WHEN YOU HAVE CONDITIONS S MUCH VERTICAL CHASING BUT WE DIE PRECAUTIONS TO HELP AVOID EROSIE FUTURE.

THOSE INCLUDE FULLY SODDING THEE INSTEAD OF SEED AND MULCH. ONCE THAT SOD TAKES HOLD IT WILP STABILIZATION. THE TREE PLANTINGS THAT WILL BEG THE SLOPE AS WELL, THE MORE THAY TAKE HOLD, THE MORE THAT WILL HE STABILIZATION. AND WE DID HAVE -- I DID TALK TE CLAIP ARCHITECT AT MATTHEWS -- E ARCHITECT THAT HELPED WITH THE LANDSCAPING AND HE DID PROVIDE L

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HERE WHICH SHOWS THAT THE PLANTS COULD BE PROVIDED ADEQUATELY UPA TWO-TO-ONE SLOPE THERE.

SO HE WAS OKAY WITH THE SLOPE. HE SAID THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BA PROBLEM.

AND I THINK THE MAIN PRECAUTIONE CAN TOO, A KAREN MENTIONED, WASE WERE CAPTURING ALL THE STORM WAT WOULD FALL INTO THE BUILDING ANG THAT UNDERGROUND. SO THE ONLY STORM WATER THAT WO& ON THE SLOPE IS WHAT WOULD HIT T DIRECTLY ITSELF. AND THAT, I THINK THAT COMES OUN AREA OF SOMETHING LIKE 2800 SQUT WHICH IS NOT MUCH AT ALL. IT WOULD HIT THAT.

A LOT OF IT WOULD GET I WILL TID INTO THE GROUND AND SOMEWHAT TRO SLOPE.

WITH THE TODAYING, WITH THE TREH MOST OF THE TOMORROW STORM WATEN AWAY FROM THAT SLOPE, WE ALL FEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT BEING WHAT . AND I THINK A GOOD COMPARISON TP ILLUSTRATE IS WHEN YOU HAVE AN INTERCHANGE AND YOU HAVE LIKE AN INTERSTATE GOING OVER A CONNECT, THOSE SLOPES ARE USUALLY ABOUT

TWO-TO-ONE. >> THEY USUALLY WORK BECAUSE THE SODDED AND BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKIL THE RUNOFF OFF THE ROAD AND NOTG A SHEET FLOW OFF THE SIDE. SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMPARO KIND OF SEE WHAT A TWO-TO-ONE SE LOOKS LIKE. I'LL STILL BE AVAILABLE IF YOU Y

QUESTIONS, BUT WHY WE FEEL COMFE WITH THIS. >> ALL RIGHT.

SO JUST TO FINISH UP, WE KIND OW THAT THE TWO ITEMS THAT WE REALE TO ADDRESS HERE ARE THE HARDSHIP BASICALLY FOR EACH OF THE TWO TS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE FEEL THAT THERE IS AN EXTRAOY SITUATION OR CONDITION OF THE P, AND THE USE ANDTE OF AND DE ADJACENT PROPERTY AND THEY DO CE HARDSHIP FOR THE APPLICANT. AGAIN, I CAN GO THROUGH ALL OF T I THINK WE HAVE KIND OF -- I DOT TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO ANYTHING. IN YOUR PACKAGE, IN YOUR STAFF , UPDATED STAFF REPORT THERE WAS A TIMELINE, AND THOUGHT IT THAT WT WAS VERY RELEVANT TO THIS, AND Y SO YOU'RE LOOKING BACK TO 2009,S WHEN WE REZONED THIS PROPERTY TA LITTLE WHILE AGO. IN CHARN JANUARY OF 2019, SOG ABOUT ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO, THAN THE COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION PLAE APPROVED FOR THE 15,000 SQUARE D IT DID BECOME A FLECK FLEX WE BUILDINGS. AGAIN WITNESS CLEARING, GRADING, DRAINAGE, RETENTION POND. BASICALLY THERE WAS NO DESIGNATR THAT BUILDING IN THAT APPLICATI.

IN JULY WE PROVIDED -- WE CAME N APPLICATION TO REZONE FROM CG T. THE APPLICANT HAD ALREADY STARTD CONSTRUCTION ON THE SITE AND WAS GOING -- ACTUALLY HE WAS MADE AT THERE WERE ADDITIONAL SCREENING STANDARDS FOR IF THIS WAS TO CWS I MENTIONED EARLIER, HE WAS UNDE IMPRESSION THAT THAT WOULD BE FF THE OTHER BUILDINGS BUT DID NOTO THIS ONE. SO HE DID RECEIVE THE REZONING.

WE RECEIVED THAT IN MAY. AND THEN IN JULY WHEN WE REALIZT THERE WERE PROBABLY SOME CHANGET NEEDED TO BE MADE TO THE, TO TH, THAT'S WHEN THEY WENT BACK FOR E MODCP.

AND THAT'S ALSO WHEN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, SIN OF COUNTY ATTORNEE TIME SAID THAT IT WOULD NOT BE D UNDER THE CG ZONING SO THAT WE D HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE VARIANC. -- FOR THE VARIANCE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE. SO HE WAS MADE AWARE THAT THE NG TO WOULD CHANGE IT BUT HE DID NK THAT IT APPLIED TO THIS PARTICUR BUILDING. AND IN ALL HONESTY, HE HAD ALREY STARTED THE BUILDING, IT WAS ALY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. IT WASN'T LIKE HE COULD TICK PIP AND MOVE IT. SO AGAIN, THE QUESTION IS TO ALR REDUCED BUFFER.

OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT. AND THE HARDSHIP WAS ACTUALLY CY THE ADDITIONAL USE, WHICH IS THT INDUSTRIAL. AS HE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS N HE REALIZED WITH HIS NEW CANDY Y THAT HE HAS THAT HE WANTED TO US AS WAREHOUSE SPACE, AND SO HE IS PLANNING ON TAKING A LARGE PORTF THAT. WELL, THE WAREHOUSE SPACE TO USR DMIEFN MANUFACTURING OR STORAGED OF MANUFACTURING OR STORAGE CONS THE INDUSTRIAL USE SO THAT CHASE BUFFER ROM THE 20 TO THE 30.

CHANGES THE BUFFER FROM THE 20 E 30. SO THAT IS A HARDSHIP IN BEING O USE THE BUILDING FOR ALL THE UST HE HAS INTENDED FOR IT. SECOND, TO PROVIDE FOR THE SCRE, AND I THINK WE'VE KIND OF INGE D THAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING INSTEAD G A WALL, AND I THINK THE DIAGRAMF SHOWED THAT YOU WITH THAT 6 TO T VARIATION, ACTUALLY THE VEGETATT THE VERY TOP, THE 6-FOOT HIGH PN

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THAT WILL BE OUTSIDE THE DOOR WE AT THE TOP OF IT. THAT'LL SCREEN ANYTHING, IF ANYY WALKS IN AND OUT OF THAT DOOR. THOSE DOORS ARE NOT -- THOSE ARY JUST A UTILITY DOOR, AN EMERGEN.

THERE'S NO CONTINUOUS SIDEWALK S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GETTING DELIVES THERE OR ANYTHING, SO THEY'RE AY NO ACTIVITY THERE. THEN AS YOU COME DOWN THE SLOPEN 10 FEET OF THE BOUNDARY PER THES WHERE WE HAVE THE TREES THAT ARD 20, MINIMUM 20 FEET APART, 10-IH HEIGHT, AND SO THAT 10-INCH HEIS YOU LOOK UP TO THAT WILL GIVE AU REALLY NICE SCREENING ALONG THE. AND AGAIN, WE DO FEEL THAT THERN A HARDSHIP RELATED TO BEING ABLT THAT WALL THERE AND THAT THE WAL ITSELF, THE 6-FOOT WALL, REALLYT ACCOMPLISH WHAT THE VEGETATION N ACCOMPLISH. SO WE'RE CONSIDERING THIS AN ALTERNATIVE, WHICH ISN'T ALLOWER CODE. BE NICE IF IT WAS.

WOULDN'T HAVE TO ASK FOR A VARI. BUT THAT IS OUR REQUEST. SO WE DO THINK IT'S CONSISTENT E SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND MORE THANO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY.

>> ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AGAIN GO THR CHECKLIST APPROACH EVEN THOUGH T MORE MEMBERS HERE AND SEE IF WEA QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT OR C.

ALSO, PLEASE DECLARE EX HAVE SO. GOING DOWN THE LIST, GREG, YOU'E TOP OF IT AGAIN.

>> OKAY. YEAH, I'D LOUK TO DECLARE EX PAE CONVERSATION WITH KAREN.

WE DISCUSSED THE MAINLY THE HARP ISSUE AND SOME OF THE DRAINAGE . I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. MR. ALAIMO. >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I HAVE NO EX PARTE AND NO MESS. >> MS. PERKINS. >> NO EX PARTE.

NO QUESTIONS. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER HAS NO EX PAO QUESTIONS.

MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES, I HAVE BOTH. AND I WAS THE MAJOR CONTRIBUTORE DISCORD AT THE LAST MEETING SO O SPEAK ABOUT THIS. [ECHO]

>> WE'RE GETTING A -- >> I SWEAR I'M NOT TALKING AGAI. >> ARE YOU REPEATING YOURSELF?

>> THAT'S OUR ECHO. >> IS IT SAFE TO CONTINUE? OKAY.

SO I DECLARE EX PARTE. I WENT TO THE SITE. TWO OR THREE THINGS.

ONE WAS I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT BE TO SEE THE BACK OF THE BUILDINGE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

I THINK THE PLANTING GOES A LONG WAY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT, ESPECE LOW PLANTING BECAUSE IT WILL GRA LITTLE BIT AND IT'S AT THE TOP E SLOPE AND IT LOOKS GOOD. THE PLANTING THAT'S PART OF WAYE SLOPE, PART OF THAT -- HELP ME I WANT TO CALL THOSE EVERGREENS. I'LL JUST CALL THEM EVERGREENS.

THEY'RE THICK AND THEY'RE HELPF. THE SOUTHERN PINES THAT ARE IN E LINE, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOIO ANYTHING TO HELP VISUAL BIOLOGIR BLOCKAGE OR ANYTHING ELSE. THAT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE OF WHATM INTERESTED IN. I THINK THE LANDSCAPER HAS DONED JOB IN AND TOOK CARE OF MY CONCS ABOUT THE SLOPE. ABOUT THE VIEW. THE SLOPE ITSELF, MY CONCERN ABE SLOPE WAS THAT AS IT SLOUGHS OFL IT FILL THE DRAINAGE DITCH. DRAINAGE THERE IN THAT AREA WASA CONCERN. IT CAME UP DURING OUR DISCUSSIO. WELL, IT TURNS OUT THERE IS NO E DITCH. THERE ISN'T ANY. IT'S FLAT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE .

THE SLOPE HAS SLOUGHED OFF. YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS E IS NOT FLAT.

IT'S CONCAVE OUTWARD. CONCAVE OUTWARD. IS THAT A GOOD -- AND IT WILL CE TO DO THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT MY C. I AM NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE DRE BECAUSE THERE IS NO DITCH THERE.

I'M SATISFIED THAT WHAT'S IN PLS GOING TO WORK. I THINK THE CONTRACTOR OR THE BS

IN A BIND AND I'M SYMPATHETIC T. I'M OKAY ON THIS AS IT STANDS. >> THANK YOU, MR. WAINRIGHT.

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DR. HILSENBECK, EX PARTE AND ANY COMMENTS? >> CONCERNING EX PARTE, I DID SH KAREN TAYLOR, AND I HAD PREVIOUY DRIVEN BY THE SITE A FEW WEEKS I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO RESTATE.

BUT AFTER RECONSIDERING FOR A CF WEEKS, SINCE THE BUILDING IS ALY THERE, IT'S IN PLACE, I DO SEE T ALLOWING US TO -- ALLOWING THE D THE OCCUPANT OF THE PROPERTY TOE IT, THAT THAT IS A HARDSHIP.

I KNOW FINANCIAL HARDSHIP IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ONE THAT WE TAKEO CONSIDERATION NECESSARILY, BUT O BELIEVE THAT HARDSHIP IS INVOLVN THIS, AND I AM PREPARED TO VOTES ITEM.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. DR. MCCORMICK.

EX PARTE AND ANY COMMENTS? >> YEAH. OF COURSE, CAWRN AND I KAS ALSO, AND I POINTED OUT MY BASIM WAS THE HARDSHIP ISSUE, AND THEE REALLY FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT, AI THOUGHT THAT IN MY OPINION, IT S ADEQUATE TIME FRAME WHERE THE OR COULD HAVE MADE OTHER ADJUSTMENO THAT HE COULD HAVE MOVED FORWARA BETTER WAY WITH THIS PROJECT. SO I TOLD KAREN, AND I'M GOING K

WITH MY FIRST DECISION, WHICH IM GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS. >> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. KAREN, ANYTHING TO ADD? >> UNLESS THERE'S OTHER QUESTIOE

DONE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS?

>> NO. >> DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKES ONLINE, SIR?

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> ALL RIGHT. THEN WE ARE BACK IN THE AGENCY R

FURTHER DISCUSSION OR A MOTION,. >> I'D OFFER A MOTION IF THERE'O OTHER DISCUSSION.

>> I HEAR NONE OTHER. >> I'D OFFER A MOTION TO APPROVR 2020-21 STRATTON BOULEVARD VARIE BASED UPON FIVE FINDINGS OF FACD SUBJECT TO SIX CONDITIONS AS PRN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND. >> THANK YOU, MS. PERKINS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. THIS WILL BE VOTING FOR APPROVA.

OH, I'M SORRY. I WENT BACK TO THE OLD WAYS. ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS VIA THE L CALL. MR. MATOVINA.

>> NO. >> ALL RIGHT. MR. ALAIMO.

>> YES. >> MS. PERKINS. >> YES.

>> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES.

>> DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES. >> AND DR. MCCORMICK.

>> NO. >> MOTION CARRIES 2. AND WE ARE -- 5-2 AND WE ARE ON.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 2. DO WE HAVE A JAIME MACKEY IN TH?

[Items 2 - 4]

>> YES. >> YES, WE DO. >> THANKS FOR HAVING US BACK.

I'M READY. >> BY THE WAY, WE ARE GOING TO E LOOKING AT ITEMS NUMBER 2, 3 AN4

SIMULTANEOUSLY HERE. GO AHEAD, SIR. >> JAIME MACKEY, 54 SUGAR MAGNOE IN PONTE VEDRA. THANKS FOR HAVING US BACK, GIVIE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS SOME OF R COMMENTS AND CONCERNS, AND THANO JUSTIN AND THE STAFF FOR GUIDINS THROUGH THE PROCESS.

I'VE GOT A QUICK TWO MINUTE POWT TO RECAP THE CONCERNS OF WHEN WT AND THEN I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTION.

BELL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE ASKING TO BUILD -- OR THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS TO BUILD 32 F COVERED STORAGE, NOT A BIG BUIL, JUST COVERED PARKING SPACES. WE'VE GOT THE FACILITY RIGHT NE.

WE ARE REPRESENTING THE CURRENTY OWNER, MRS. BELL WHO HAS BEEN TE SINCE THE EARLY '70.

IT'S REALLY A 14% INCREASE IN T, YOU KNOW, BIGGER THAN OUR EXIST. IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DT CUSTOMER. IT'S GOING TO BE LESS TRAFFIC, E VISIBILITY.

OUR OTHER YARD HAS SOME SMALLERS AND THERE'S PROBABLY MORE ACTIVR THERE.

THIS ONE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO -U KNOW, THIS IS MORE FOR LONG-TERE AND SOMEONE THAT'S GONE OUT ANDA $200,000 RV, SO I DON'T SEE THEE NUMBER OF LIKE GATE OPENINGS PEE AS WE WOULD AT THE OTHER PLACE,S FAR AS CONTEXT, WE'VE BEEN THERE 2008. BEFORE GREEN RIDGE WAS BUILT.

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CERTAINLY DIDN'T SLOW COUNSELINS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND UNTIL WE WERE HERE LAST TIME NEVER HAD ANY COMPLAINTS FROM AN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR MRS. BELL WS LIVED THERE ON THE PROPERTY RIGT DOOR. AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS REALLY T CUSTOMER BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAE THERE USE OUR FACILITY. I DON'T KNOW WHY I PICKED A RAIY FOR THAT PICTURE BUT LOOKING OVE FENCE IN ONE OF THE CUL-DE-SACSR EXISTING LOT, YOU CAN HARDLY SES GOING ON OVER THERE.

AND THE NEW ONE WILL BE EVEN LES BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE MORE TREES U. WE'RE GOING ON TO PUT EXTENSIVE PLANNINGS. WE HAVE THE 10-FOOT TYPE B BUFFS 20 FEET.

WE HAVE 6-FOOT SHRUBS SOUTH AND. SOUTH AND WEST SIDES. EAST SIDE NORTH OF THE DRIVEWAYO A TYPE B BUFFER WITH TWNGT FOOT, 8-FOOT FENCE. AND ACROSS OLD DIXIE HIGHWAY THA FENCE WHERE OLD NOCATEE WAS BUI. AND WE ARE RETANG A COUPLE OF TR TREES UP ON THE FRONTLINE THAT E OUTSIDE THE FENCE, SO WE'RE TRYO SAVE SOME OF THAT HEIGHT, TOO, E THE EDGE OFF IT.

ONE OF THE COMMENTS LAST TIME WS TRAFFIC AT NIGHT WHICH WE WERE F TAKEN ABACK BY, IS ON WE WASN'TK THROUGH OUR SECURITY SYSTEM. WE'RE NOTIFIED EVERY TIME SOMEBS BETWEEN THERE BETWEEN 11:00 AT D 6:00 IN THE MORNING SO WOULDN'TD LOOKED AT A 10 WEEK PERIOD, ANDT 12 12 ROUND TRIPS SHOWN -- OVER . IT'S IN THE MAY LOT OF TRAFFIC. FOR US IT'S A NECESSARY PART OFR BUSINESS TO HAVE THAT OPTION. WHENEVER PEOPLE CALL, THEY DISCT 24-HOUR ACCESS? YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE WANTING TO GEY ARE FISHING BOATS EARLY ONCE IN. IN REALITY THEY DON'T USE IT MAT THEY ALWAYS ASK ABOUT IT. AND LIMITS. ONE THE OF CONCERNS WAS IF WE CO IT CI ZONING, WHICH IS WHAT WE R THE BOAT AND RV STORAGE, THAT OA SLEW OF MORE INTENSIVE USES THAT NOT BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGD NEXT DOOR. WE AGREED TO LIMIT THOSE USES, E JUST PICKED THIS ONE SECTION OUE NEW CODE, THE TABLE IN THE CODE. JUST TO MAKE IT EASY.

THIS WAS REALLY JUST OFFICES AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CATEGORY. AND THAT'LL GIVE US ALSO WHERE E IN THE FUTURE SOME FLEXIBILITY O SOMETHING ELSE WITHOUT COMING BN HERE AND ASKING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. OUR INTENT IS NOT TO DO SOMETHIG DIFFERENT.

WE WANT TO BUILD THIS AND RUN IR BUSINESS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE RL AND SEE WHO HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON COMMENTS FOR YOU. MR. MATOVINA.

>> NO EX PARTE. NO QUESTIONS. >> ALL RIGHT.

MR. ALAIMO. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, NO EX PARTE, AE APPLICANT ADDRESSED ALL OF THE S

THAT I HAD, SO NO COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU. MS. PERKINS.

>> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER. JUST TO CONFIRM, THERE IS AN 8 M

SORRY -- A 10-FOOT BUFFER OFF OE HIGHWAY VERSUS THE 8-FOOT? >> YES.

WE CAN DO 10 FEET. WE'RE SETTING OUR FENCE BACK 10. THERE'S 15 FEET TO THE BUILDINGT

WILL BE 15 FEET OF UNDEVELOPED E THERE ANYWAY. >> THE APPLICATION HAS AN 8-FOOS

I'VE MISSED IT AND I READ THIS . >> NO EX PARTE AND QUESTIONS. >> JUSTIN KELLY WITH GROWTH MANE 8-FOOT BUFFER IS A LANDSCAPE BU. THAT'S JUST USED WHEN VEHICULARS IS NEXT TO A RIGHT-OF-WAY, SO TN 8-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT'S N PLACE, PART OF THE LAND DEVELOPT CODE.

TYPICALLY IT'S NOT LISTED ON APPLICATIONS FOR ZONING VARIANC. USUALLY COMES IN WHEN THE COMMEL CONSTRUCTION PLANS YOU SEE, BUTS PLAIBLED ON HIS SITE PLAN. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING IT BUTS

JUST A REQUIREMENT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. >> THANK YOU.

MR. WAINRIGHT. >> NO EX PARTE. A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

THE VISUAL SCREEN, DOES THAT MEU CAN STAND ON THE STREET AND YOUT SEE INTO YOUR PARKING AREA?

>> YES, EXCEPT FOR THE GATE. THE GATE WILL BE A CHAIN LINK FE GATE.

>> OKAY. WHEN MY PHONE RINGS AND PEOPLE D UP SAY QUOIK SEE IN THERE," I'MO

CALL YOU UP. >> OKAY. WE ANSWER THAT PHONE 24 HOURS A.

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>> AND TRAFFIC DISRUPTION. THAT I WAS MAJOR CONCERN LAST TE NOISE, TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE, HD LIGHTS, THAT SORT OF STUFF. YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S BEEN TEN F THAT IN THE LAST --

>> YEAH, WE WENT THROUGH OUR --- NOT TO GIVE AWAY TOO MUCH OUR SY SYSTEM, BUT WE ET GET AN ALARM E THAT'S SENT TO US BETWEEN 11:000 AND I GOT 12 LEAMPLES IN TEN WE. WE WANT TO KNOW WHEN SOMEBODY'SE AT NIGHT. IT'S EITHER A CUSTOMER OR SOMEBO NO GOOD.

BUT WE WANT TO KNOW. THAT'S WHAT WE HAD. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> DR. HILSENBECK. >> CONCERNING EX PARTE, I HAD PY DRIVEN BY THE SITE, BUT I DID NO AGAIN IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEE. DO I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOE APPLICANT. YOU STATED THAT YOU ARE REPRESEG MRS. BELL ON THIS ITEM.

SHE IS NOT HOWEVER THE -- OF TH. >> COULD YOU REPEAT THAT, PLEAS? >> MRS. BELL IS NOT THE DEVELOPN THIS SITE. YOU JUST REPRESENT HER IN THIS , IS THAT CORRECT?

SHE STILL OWNS THE PROPERTY? >> THAT'S CORRECT SHE STILL OWNE PROPERTY.

>> OKAY. SO YOU OBVIOUSLY DO NOT YET OWNE PROPERTY.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. WE HAVE A CONTRACT ON THE PROPEH MRS. BELL.

>> OKAY. REMEMBERING BACK TO WHAT I SAW E AND LOOKING AT THE SIZE AND THIS REZONING REQUEST AND THE VARIANS COMING UP, I JUST DON'T THINK TE LOCATION AND/OR THE SHAPE AND SF THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS AMENABLEE USE THAT'S BEING REQUESTED HEREM NOT REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PR

ITEM, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, DR. MCCORMICK.

>> NO, EX PARTE. NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR. YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING O ANSWER.

PLEASE HAVE A SEAT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS? >> NO.

>> NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE? >> NO.

ONE. ONE. >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. AGAIN, THIS IS FOR ITEM NUMBER H

IS THE -- HOLD ON -- TO RECOMMED APPROVAL OF THE CPA. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF CPA 2020-L COVERED STORAGE BASED UPON FOURS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAF.

>> SECOND. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MEGAN BEAT YOU TO THE SECOND TH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? HEARING NONE, WE WILL DO THE ROL VOTE.

MR. MATOVINA. >> YES. >> MR. ALAIMO.

>> YES. >> MS. PERKINS. >> YES.

>> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MR. WHAIRN. >> WAINRIGHT.

>> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK. >> NO.

>> AND DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES 6-1. >> MR. CHAIR, MIKE ROBERTSON. MAY I ADD SOMETHING BEFORE YOU O

THE REZONING AND THE VARIANCE QY JUST A CLARIFICATION. >> SURE.

>> THE APPLICANT INDICATED THATE WOULD BE A CHAIN LINK I THINK FN THE FRONT.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SO THEREO CONFUSION LATER, OUR SCREENING D FOR RECREATIONAL VEHICLE BOAT SE DOESN'T REALLY ALLOW FOR CHAIN , ALTHOUGH YOU MAY SEE SOME, THEYE GRANDFATHERED IN OR OLDER, SO TE CLEAR, SOLID WOOD AND POLY VINYL FLUORIDE OR SIMILAR MATERIAL FE, MASONRY OR CONCRETE BLOCK.

OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A GATE. SO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT CHAIN . >> ON THE GATE?

>> ON THE GATE. >> OKAY. >> SO WHETHER YOU --

>> THE PROBLEM WITH A WOOD -- WE GOING TO HAVE A 8-FOOT WOOD OR L FENCE ON THE FRONT.

BUT THE GATE PART ITSELF, BECAUE LENGTH OF THE GATE, IF YOU DO AD FENCE, THE WIND CATCHES IT AND S

THE GATE OFF ITS TRACKS. >> REALLY THIS IS ABOUT ARREST Y THICS, TOO, SO I WOULD SAY SOMEG THAT IS MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEAT WOULD BE WOULD BE IN LINE WITH . WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT WHAT WANT ON THE RECORD, YOU SAID ITY TO HAVE THIS GATE, BUT WHAT WE S TALK ABOUT IT AND WORK THROUGH .

IT'S PROBABLY NOT REALLY RELEVAO YOUR DECISIONS, BAINT TO MAKE FE RECORD TO JUST MAKE THAT STATEM.

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>> GO AHEAD, SIR. >> SO IT WILL BE WITH THROUGH TE COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN REVIEW?

>> THAT'S RIGHT, THROUGH THE PL. >> OKAY. >> DO WE NEED TO MAKE A SPECIAL?

IS IT BAKED IN THE PIE THINK ITA CHAIN LINK GATE? >> NO.

THAT'S WHY I MADE THAT STATEMENE CLEAR THAT THE CODE DICTATES WHS SINCE HE MADE IT AND IF I DIDN'E

FIGHT DIVINITY WANT SOMEBODY TOE BACK AND SA YOU SAID IT WAS OKA. >> I. UNDERSTOOD.

>> CHAIRMAN, BRAD BULTHUIS. IN TERMS OF ORDER I THINK IT WOE SENSE FOR THE NOAKS MOTION TO BE REZONING WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 4N THE VARIANCE TO COME AFTER THAT. I THINK I KNOW WHERE IT'S GOINGD APPARENTLY IT DOESN'T MATTER, BI THINK PROCEDURALLY NUMBER 4 WOUE BEST TO TAKE FIRST.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO ANYTHING LIKE THAT COMING, JT THEM IN THAT ORDER PLEASE BECAUE

NOT GOING TO BE SMART ENOUGH TOO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. >> I AGREE.

>> SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, DIDK FOR PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON THIS? ON ITEM 4 AS WELL?

>> NO. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HEARD ALL S TOGETHER, AND I THINK THAT ONE C

COMMENT PERIOD FOR ALL THREE WAS SATISFACTORY. >> VERY GOOD.

SO WE'RE GOING TO LEAPFROG TO IM NUMBER 3 BECAUSE IT'S ALTOGETHE. ITEM NUMBER 4 WOULD BE UP FOR NT

MOTION. >> HOATION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAS 2020-15 BELL COVERED STORAGES BN

FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AND SUBJEO UNQUANS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF R. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE WILL DO OUR ROLL VOTE. AGAIN THIS IS FOR ITEM NUMBER 4. MR. MATOVINA.

>> YES. >> MR. ALAIMO. >> YES.

>> MS. PERKINS. >> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES.

MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK.

>> NO. >> AND DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES 6-1. AND GOING BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 3E CARE TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE ZVAR TWHNT7 BELL COVERED STORAGE BASED ON FE FINDINGS OF FACT AND SUBJECT TOT

KANSAS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF RE. >> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, AGAIN THE ROLL CA. MR. MC.

I MEAN MR. MATOVINA. >> YES. MR. ALAIMO.

>> YES. >> MS. PERKINS. >> YES.

>> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES.

>> DR. HILSENBECK. >> NO. >> AND DR. MCCORMICK.

>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 6-1 ON THAT ONE.

SO THAT WAS WRAPPING UP 3 AND 4. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR YOUR REFERE BECAUSE WE DID HAVE THE COMP PLN AMENDMENT AND REZONING THAT STID TO GET APPROVED BY THE BOARD OFY COMMISSIONERS, THIS AGENCY'S APF THE VARIANCE, THE EFFECTIVE DATE IN ABEYANCE UNTIL THOSE ARE COND BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSI.

THANK YOU. MS. MAY.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMANS OF THE AGENCY. CYNTHIA MAY, AND I'M ACTUALLY GO

[5. ZVAR 2017-10 1590 Northwood Boulevard Reconsideration and Requested Correction.]

BE TALKING TO YOU ON BEHALF OF E APPLICANT FOR AGENDA ITEMS NUMBD 6.

AGENDA NUMBER 5 IS A ZONING VARE THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2017 AT 150 NORTHWOOD DRIVE.

THE LOCATION IS ON NORTHWOOD DRK LIKE I SAID, AND IT'S THE AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.

IT'S JUST KIND OF NORTHEAST OF S INDUSTRIAL PARK. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A FUTUD USE OF INDUSTRIAL AND ALSO INDUL WAREHOUSE FOR ZONING. HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF A MOR, I THINK 2019, AND TODAY THE SUBT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THIS BUILDIT HERE.

IN 2017, THIS PROPERTY WAS APPRH THE ATTACHED SITE PLAN, BUT IT S APPROVED FOR A SETBACK OF 5 FEER THAN THE 3.58 FEET OR 6 FEET THE PLAN ACTUALLY SHOWED. AND THE INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN TE APPROVALS WAS MORE RECENTLY DISD BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DE IN WITH A NEW PLAN TO KIND OF RE SITE, AND SO THE FUTURE PLAN ISO REMOVE THE OTHER BUILDING ON THF NORTHEAST PROPERTY.

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AND RETAIN THE NEWEST ONE, WHICE ONE THAT I POINTED OUT EARLIER. SO AGAIN THE VARIANCE WAS GRANTN 2017. THE APPLICATION, THE NARRATIVE,E PRESENTATION TO THE AGENCY AT TE ALL WAS TALKED ABOUT THE REDUCTM 15 TO 5 FEET, HOWEVER, THE ACTUN THAT WAS APPROVED SHOWED IT AT 3.58 FEET, AS DID THE SUBSEQUENT MODIFIED CONSTRUCTION PLAN THATT OF THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF GETTINGT CONSTRUCTED. AND THE APPLICANT HAD A CONVERSN WITH OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFID IT WAS DECIDED THAT THE BEST WAO ADDRESS THIS WAS TO BRING BACK T ORIGINAL APPROVAL AND TALK ABOUA RECONSIDERATION OF THAT APPROVAO ACCOMMODATE THE 3.5 FEET VERSUSE 5 FEET THAT IT ACTUALLY IS MORES AS A CORRECTION TO THAT APPROVAO THAT IS WHY IT'S HERE. THIS SITE, JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOS GOING ON, IS THAT YOU'LL SEE THS ADJACENT TO THE FLORIDA EAST BET CAPTIONS PROVIDED BY COAST 2 COAST CAPTIONING WWW.C2CCAPTIONING.COM.

-- RAILWAY AND THEY USED THAT R THAT'S EAJTS TO THE PROPERTY TOD AND UPLOAD PRODUCT WHICH IS TYPN THAT LOCATION. DURING THE 2017 HEARINGS THAT WE COMPLEAR AND THERE WERE EVEN AGY MEMBERS WHO SUGGESTED THAT PERHN THESE SITUATIONS THAT THAT SETBK DIDN'T MAKE SENSE AND MAYBE THE COUNTY COULD CONSIDER REMOVING T REQUIREMENT. WE DON'T GET V THESE, AND WITH EVERYTHING WE DO I THINK THAT TR REALLY GOT ADDRESSED AFTER THAT. SO WE'RE HERE LOOKING TO CORRECS SITUATION. AND I'LL JUST LEAVE THE SITE PLP THERE FOR YOU TO SEE IF YOU HAVY

QUESTIONS. >> ALL RIGHT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU DON'T MT A LITTLE BIT MORE COLOR. AS CYNTHIA INDICATED, THIS LATET REQUEST INITIALLY CAME THROUGH Y OFFICE BECAUSE THEY'RE HOPING TE ON THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY, I E RELATED TO REORGANIZATION OR RECONFIGURATION OF THE PROPERTYS SHE INDICATED, IN 2017 THERE BOD APPROVE THE ZONING VARIANCE FORE 5 FEET, AND THE EVIDENCE WAS THE WAS A SLY ON THIS LOCATION FOR Y YEARS AND THAT WENT INTO THE BOS DETERMINATION OF HARDSHIP. THERE WAS A QUESTION BY THEN AGY MEMBER BRAD NELSON ABOUT WHY ISS EVEN -- WHY IS THERE NOT AN EXCN FOR WRAIL USAGE IN THE CODE -- Y USING AT THE CODE AND I THINK TR WAS MORE OFTEN WE SEE THESE KINF SPURS GOING ONTO THE PROPERTY RR THAN JUST BEING BUTTED UP AGAINM ON AN ADJACENT PROPERTY, AND SOK THE CONCLUSION FROM STAFF AT THE WAS IT DIDN'T HAPPEN FREQUENTLYH TO WARRANT THE PROCESS OF GOINGH A CODE REVISION. BUT THAT IS THE PRACTICALITIES S SITE AND THE USE DID SEEM TO BE IMPORTANT TO THE BOARD AT THE T. SO THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE

BACKGROUND. THANK YOU. >> AND JUST ONE MORE ITEM TO BR.

THE ORIGINAL ORDER THAT YOU HADR PACKETS, WE UPDATED BECAUSE CONN NUMBER 3 MENTIONED A DEADLINE FR STARTING OR COMMENCING CONSTRUC, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY ALREADY OCCUO YOU'VE GOT A REPLACEMENT ORDER I

BELIEVE IT WAS AND HANDED OUT TO REMOVE THAT CONDITION>> THANK Y. I DO REMEMBER THIS, AND I REMEME DIMENSION, WHETHER IT WAS 3.5 O. I THINK THAT WAS AN EASY DECISIE MADE HERE.

BUT AT ANY RATE, LET'S GO THROUR ROLL CALL TO DECLARE ANY EX PARD THE APPLICANT WHO HAPPENS TO BEE

COUNTY THIS TIME AROUND. MR. MATOVINA. >> NO QUESTIONS.

NO EX PARTE. >> THANK YOU. MR. ALAIMO.

>> NO EX PARTE. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. SO WE'RE REMOVING THE NUMBER 3 , THE VARIANCE SHALL COMMENCE WITE YEAR OF THE FINAL ORDER. IS THAT WHAT SHE SAID?

WE'RE REMOVING THAT 100? Y. >> , MR. ALAIMO AND THROUGH THE, THAT'S CORRECT. NUMBER 3, CONDITIONS, AND WE ALO CORRECT THE RECOMMENDED MOTION O

RECOMMENDING FIVE CONDITIONS RAN SIX. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU>> MS. PERKINS. >> NO EX PARTE. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER HAS NO EX PAO

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QUESTIONS. MR. WAINRIGHT. >> NO EX PARTE.

ONE QUESTION. IS THERE A LIMITATION HERE IMPON ACCESS FOR FIRE OR EMERGENCY INT

AREA? IS THAT NECESSARY? >> MR. WAINRIGHT, COULD YOU CLAY WHICH AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? THE AREA BEHIND THE BUILDING THE SUBJECT HERE?

>> YES. >> I BELIEVE MR. WAINRIGHT HAD Y SIMILAR QUESTION IN 2017, AND IS DETERMINED THERE IS NO PENETRATF THAT BUILDING AT THE REAR, AND I THINK FIRE RESCUE ALSO INDICATET THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM TO GET AROUH SIDES OF IT TO APPROPRIATELY ANY HANDLE ANY EMERGENCIES THAT ARI.

>> YOUR MEMORY IS BETTER THAN M. >> NO, SIR, IT'S NOT. I LISTENED TO IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> JUST LAST WEEK. >> YOU CHEATED.

ALL RIGHT. DR. HILSENBECK. >> NOAKS PAR TO A AND -- NO EX A AND THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE IS K THIS IS A LEGITIMATE REQUEST ANA LEGITIMATE USE TO HAVE THE REDUR YARD SETBACK FROM 15 TO 3.5 BECF THAT RAILROAD SPUR AND BECAUSE E LOADING AND UNLOADING OF RAILROD

CARS, SO I INTEND TO VOTE FOR I. THANK YOU. >> DR. MCCORMICK.

>> . DR. MCCORMICK, ARE YOU ON? >> I AM NOW.

NO EX PARTE, NO QUESTIONS, NO C. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

NO MORE QUESTIONS, THEN, FOR ST. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS? MR. WAINRIGHT?

>> NO. >> ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS ?

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TI. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENT, .

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR A MOTE MADE? >> MOTION TO APPROVE ZVAR 2017-0 NORTHWOOD BOULEVARD RECONSIDERAD REQUESTED CORRECTION OF THE ZONG VARIANCE APPROVED AUGUST 3, 201O SECTION 6.01.01 TABLE 6.01 TO AA REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED REAR M 15 FEET TO 3.5 FEET BASED ON FIE FINDINGS OF FACT AND SUBJECT TOE CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE SF REPORT.

WHICH CONDITION AM I DELETING OF SIX? >> NUMBER 3.

>> DELETING CONDITION NUMBER 6 F THE SIX THAT ARE LISTED. >> NUMBER 3 OUT OF THE SIX.

>> YES. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU, BRADLEY? Y. >> , MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

SEEING NONE, AGAIN THE ROLL CAL. MR. MATOVINA. >> YES.

>> MR. ALAIMO. >> YES. >> MS. PERKINS.

>> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES.

>> DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT.

OUR FIRST UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THE. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. MS. MAY, YOU SAID YOU HAD ITEM 6

[6. ZVAR 2020-27 2724 N. Screech Owl Avenue.]

HERE? >> YES, SIR, I DO. CYNTHIA MAY, GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

ITEMS NUMBER 6 IS A ZONING VARIT IS COMING TO YOU. THE REQUEST IS TO TABLE 6.01 OFD DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND THIS IS TA 3-FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK IN LIEE REQUIRED 8-FOOT SETBACK, AND THN RESIDENTIAL, MANUFACTURED MOBILR SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, AND THAT'O ACCOMMODATE AN EXISTING MANUFACD MODULAR HOME. THE SITE ON THE AERIAL MAP, IT Y IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF NORTH SCL AVENUE AS OUTLINED THERE. IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL C FUTURE L. IT'S ON THE EDGE OF THE MANUFACD HOME/SINGLE FAMILY AND ADJACENTE RESIDENTIAL MANUFACTURED HOME TE EAST.

JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUNN MARCH 19TH OF 2020, THERE WAS A CLEARANCE SHEET APPROVED FOR WHE 32 BY 60-FOOT MODULAR HOME, ANDT CLEARANCE SHEET WAS APPROVED WIN APPROXIMATELY A 5-FOOT FROM THEE YARD SETBACK OR SIDE PROPERTY LN THE SOUTH SIDE. FOLLOWING THAT, BUILDING A PERMS ISSUED AND THEN A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WAS ISSUED. THIS IS THE IMAGE OF THE SITE PT WAS APPROVED, AND IF YOU LOOK OE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE IN THE BU CAN SEE THAT IT SHOWS A 5-FOOT .

THE SETBACK IS ACTUALLIY 8-FOOTD THAT'S ON BOTH SIDES WITH 10 FEE REAR AND 25 FEET IN THE FRONT.

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THE SURVEY THAT WAS PREPARED SHT THE SIDE YARD IS AT 5 FEET, AS N SEE, AND IN THIS CASE IT'S ON TM OF THE PAGE. THERE'S ALSO, AS YOU CAN SEE, DA DRIVEWAY APRON GOING ALONG THE F THE HOUSE AND INITIALLY THE APPT HADN'T WANTED TO INSTALL A CARPA TWO-CAR CARPORT.

THEY DO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'REO BE LIMITED TO THAT 8-FOOT SIDE D SETBACK ON THAT SIDE SO THIS ZOG VARIANCE IS LIMITED TO THE LOCAT OF HOUSE FROM THE FRONT TO THE D NO ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS OR ENCROACHMENTS CAN HAPPEN THE OTR THINNING NOTE YOU CAN SEE THEREN EAVE ON THAT SIDE WHICH IS WHY F INDICATED 3 FEET TO THAT SIDE YD SETBACK ADVICE THE IF I HAVE FEH IS THE ACTUAL LOCATION OF THE FN BECAUSAL LOW THOUGH AT 8 FEET IS ALLOWED TO -- PROJECTION IS ALLD WITHIN THAT SIDE YARD UP TO 3 FS GREALGT EXCEEDS THAT, AND SO --Y EXCEEDS THAT, AND SO IT'S 3 FEEL PARTS OF THE BUILDINGHRE JUST AT IS JEAJTS TO AN EXISTING PROPER. WHILE I'VE GOT THIS SLIDE UP, ID TO MENTION THAT THE PROPERTY OWO THE SOUTH HAD CONTACTED STAFF AO WAS IN CONVERSATION WITH THE PRY OWNER WHO IS GOING TO BE OCCUPYS HOME, AND AT FIRST THERE WAS YOU OPPOSITION FROM THE PARTY TO TH, BUT AS THEY TALKED ABOUT IT, THY UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY WERE NOT GO BE MOVING THE HOUSE ANY CLOSER,T THERE WERE NOT GOING TO BE ANY ADDITIONAL STRUCTURAL ENCROACHMN THEIR PROPERTY, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE STAFF WHD THIS THAT THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL CONCERNS. AND THEN ALTOGETHER I BELIEVE TR STAFF HEARD FROM FIVE INDIVIDUAS THROUGH BOTH LETTERS AND PHONE . THERE WAS ANOTHER NEIGHBOR WHO S OPPOSED, BUT AGAIN THROUGH CONVN WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, THEY AT OPPOSED ANY MORE.

TWO FOLKS CALLED TO JUST INQUIRT WHAT WAS GOING ON AND THERE APPY WAS WANT YOU ONE RECENT PHONE CN OPPOSITION. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, Y THE INFORMATION WAS CLEAR.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYTHING THU MIGHT HAVE. >> I GOT YOU CLEANING UP STUFF ,

DON'T THEY? >> THEY DO. >> ALL RIGHT>> LET'S GO THROUGHR

QUESTIONS FOR OUR APPLICANT ANDR FAIP MR. MATOVINA. >> NO EX PARTE, AND WHY ARE YOUG

PUNISHED TODAY? WHAT DID DO YOU? >> I'M NOT BEING PUNISHED.

>> OKAY. >> MR. ALAIMO. >> NO EX PARTE AND NO QUESTIONS.

>> MRS. PERKS. >> NO EX PARTE, NO QUESTIONS. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER HAS NO EX PAD

NO QUESTIONS TO DECLARE. MR. WAINRIGHT. >> NO EX PARTE, AND JUST TO BE ,

THE NEIGHBORS NO LONGER -- THERO NEIGHBORS IN OBJECTION TO THIS? >> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT TE PROPERTY THAT IS MOST CLOSELY AD BY THIS, THEY NO LONGER HAVE A . THEY DID SUBMIT A LETTER.

IT DID MAKE YOUR PACKET. BUT SINCE THE LETTER WENT OUT TF YOU, THEN THEY HAD SOME CONVERSN

WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER. >> THANK YOU. >> DR. HILSENBECK.

>> NO EX PARTE, AND MY MAIN QUEN ABOUT THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH OBJECTING INITIALLY HAS NOW BEEN

RESOLVED, SO I'M FINE WITH THIS. THANK YOU. >> DR. MCCORMICK.

>> NO EX PARTE. NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> VERY GOOD.

DO WE HAVE IN PUBLIC SPEAKER CA? >> NO. >> DO WE HAVE IN YOU PUBLIC SPES

ONLINE? >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? COMMENTS OR A MOTION?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE ZVAR 2020-4 NORTH SCREECH OWL LANE, REQUESTA ZONING VARIANCE TO LAND DEVELOPE TALE TABLE 6.01 ALLOW A 3-FOOTYD FOOT SIDE YARD TATE SETBACK IN F OF REQUIRED 8-FOOT SETBACK IN RESIDENTIAL, MANUFACTURING MOBIE OR SINGLE FAMILY ZONING TO ACCOE AN EXISTING LOD MODULAR HOME.

INCLUDING BAL DON'T IS, PORCHESS AND OTHER ARCHITECTURAL FEATUREO OTHER PROTRUSION IS PERMITTED IE SIDE YARD. APPROVAL THE SUBJECT TO FINDINGT AND SIX CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL D

IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> MEGAN HAS HER SECOND.

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WE'RE BEING VERY EFFICIENT TODA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THE EXPEDIENCY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. MR. MATOVINA. >> YES.

>> MR. ALAIMO. >> YES. >> MS. PERKINS.

>> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES.

>> AND DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS AS WEL. 6 -- I'M SORRY, 7-0. WE ARE MOVING ALONG AND MAKING D TIME. THANK YOU ALL. ITEM NUMBER 7, WALLY AND CORA J.

[7. ZVAR 2020-24 Corbin Residence.]

GENERATION HOMES. HOW ARE YOU TODAY. >>

>> GOOD, THANK YOU. I AM CORA JOHNSTON. I'M THE OWNER AND EXRAR FOR GENN HOMES AT 5860 US-HIGHWAY NORTH. I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING SPED DEB CORBIN WHO ARE THE OWNERS OE PRESIDENT. 3125 SOUTH PONTE VEDRA BOULEVAR. WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR A ZONING E TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, 6O ALLOW A FRONT YARD SETBACK OF 2N LIEU OF THE 25-FOOT REQUIREMENTR TORRENTIAL. 15 FEET IN LIEU OF THE 25-FOOT REQUIREMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL, SIE FAMILY. ZONING, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE E FAMILY RESIDENCE.& THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN AN T WAS SEVERELY DAMAGED DURING THE. THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, BOTE NORTH AND THE SOUTH, PLACED A SL ALONG THAT AREA, AND THEN THIS D HAVE CREATED A BREACH SO THEY JN WITH THIS LOT, WAS ALLOWED TO HA SEAWALL. WITH THE SEAWALL IN PLACE, IT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A 20-FOOT REARK FROM THE WALL IN LIEU OF THE NOL 10-FOOT SETBACK BECAUSE OF THE S THAT GO INTO THE LOT. SO IT WILL HAVE A REAR EASTWARDK OF 20 VERSUS THE NORMAL 10.

THERE ARE SEVERAL PROPERTIES ALE BOULEVARD THERE THAT ALSO HAVE E 15-FOOT VARIANCE SETBACK TO ALLA BUILDABLE AREA. THE LOT BUILDABLE SPACE IS ONLYT IN DEPTH.

SO WITH THE 20 FEET IN THE REAR, ALLOWING A 15 FEET IN THE FRONTY GIVES A BUILDING DEPTH OF 28 FE.

WITH THAT, THE CORBINS WOULD LIO BUILD A VERY MODEST RESIDENCE. IT WILL ONLY BE 2,020 SQUARE FE.

>> ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD? >> NOTHING FROM ME. >> I KNOW THIS PROPERTY WELL.

WE WERE LOOKED AT THE HOUSE THAN THERE BEFORE THIS. IT'S FAIRLY COMMON FOR THESE OCT LOTS, ESPECIALLY ON THIS PART OE VEDRA BOULEVARD, TO SHAVE OFF TT ADDITIONAL SETBACK BECAUSE OF T, SO, I MEAN, I'VE NEVER SEEN IT D DOWN IN MY TIME HERE ON THE BOA. I THOUGHT I'D MENTION THAT TO E.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO THROUGH THE LIST ONCE R QUESTIONS AND EX PARTE TO DECLA.

MR. MATOVINA. >> NO EX PARTE, NO QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU.

MR. ALAIMO. >> NO EX PARTE. I JUST HAD A QUESTION REGARDINGG OUT OF THE RESIDENCE. I SEE FDOT STRONGLY SUGGESTED AE TURNAROUND TO BE TO DISCUCIALG S FROM BACKING INTO LIVE TRAFFIC F 1A. IS THERE GOING TO BE AN ON-SITE

TURNAROUND OR I JUST HAD A QUESN REGARDING THAT. >> SO THE DRIVEWAY THAT WILL BE, THE ONLY THING ON THE FIRST FLOE PROPERTY IS BASICALLY UNHABITTAE SO IT'S PRIMARILY ALL GARAGE, AA SMALL ENTRYWAY, SO THE DRIVEWAYL STRETCH ACROSS THE FRONT AND THL BE PLENTY OF ROOM TO COME OUT OA DRIVEWAY BACK UP ACROSS THE PRO, AND THEN THE ROAD TO GO OUT TO E PROPERTY FORWARD FACING WITH YOR

VEHICLE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> MS. PERKINS. >> NO EX PARTE, NO QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU.

MR. KOPPENHAFER HAS NO EX PARTEO QUESTIONS. MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> JUST ONE QUESTION ABOUT OTHER PROPERTIES THERE THAT HAVE ASKER THIS AND BEEN GRANTED THIS SETB.

>> YES, SIR. >> CAN YOU POINT OUT SOME THAT E BEEN.

>> YES. THEY SHOULD BE IN THE DOCUMENTST WERE SUBMITTED.

UNFORTUNATELY, I DID NOT COMPARG THAT. >> IT'S ON PAGE 9, ARCHIE.

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>> I BELIEVE THERE ARE ARE 12 TT IN A ROW. THERE IS A LITTLE SPACE IN BETW.

IT'S ON THE SCREEN NOW. THANK YOU. SO THE YELLOW OBVIOUSLY IS THE Y THAT I'M REPRESENTING TODAY, ANN THE PINK ARE ALL THE PROPERTIESE REDUCED FRONT SETBACK.

>> THANK YOU. YOU GOT IT. >> THANK YOU.

>> DR. HILSENBECK. >> NO EX PARTE, AND MR. ALAIMO Y FIRST QUESTION, AND MR. WAINRIGD MY SECOND QUESTION, SO NO FURTHR COMMENTS FROM ME. THANK YOU.

>> DR. MCCORMICK. >> NO EX PARTE, AND THE QUESTIOT WERE ASKED WERE GOOD ONES, SO IO

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU. >> DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKE? >> NO.

>> NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS IN THE AU. DO WE HAVE ANY ONLINE? >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE'RE CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENT. WE ARE BACK IN THE AGENCY THEN.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE ZVAR 2020-4 REQUEST FOR ZONING VARIANCE TO D DEVELOPMENT CODE TABLE 6.01 TO A FRONT YARD SETBACK OF 15 FEET IF THE 25-FOOT REQUIREMENT IN RESI, SINGLE FAMILY RS-3 ZONING TO ACE A SINGLE FAMILY JENS SPECIFICALD AT 3125 SOUTH PONTE VEDRA BOULE, SUBJECT TO SEVEN CONDITIONS ANDE

FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED INE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> MEGAN SECOND IT. GETTING OUR MONEY'S WORTH TODAY. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, WE WILL DO OUR ROL VOTE. MR. MATOVINA.

>> YES. >> MR. ALAIMO. >> YES.

>> MS. PERKINS. >> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES.

MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK.

>> YES. >> DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS 7-0. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 8.

[8. SUPMIN 2020-04 Collier Residence.]

MOVING RIGHT ALONG. MR. BATTEIGER. COLLIER RESIDENCE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. GOLFERY BATTEIGER. 102 OAKLEY POINT, FLORIDA 20203.

I REPRESENT MS. COLLIER ON A REO ALLOW A MOBILE HOME IN RS-3 ZON. AND I DON'T HAVE ANY FANCY THINT THERE MIGHT BE A MAP UP HERE FO. THAT DOES SHOW THE LOCATION. ON THIS APPLICATION TO SET A BRW DOUBLE WIDE MANUFACTURED HOME FY SKIRTED TO THE GROUND AND WITH L TOWING GEAR REMOVED CONSISTENT O SECTION 2.08CN DPVMENT THIS NEWN WEST 4TH STREET WILL FIT IN WELD OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE EXISTING RESIDENTS ON THE LS THE STREET TO THE SOUTH 901 WESH IS A 1997 TRIPLE WIDE MANUFACTUE IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. THE EXISTING RESIDENCE BEHIND TT TO THE NORTH 855 WEST 3RD STREEA 1984 DOUBLE WIDE MANUFACTURED HN GOOD CONDITION. AND THE APPLICANT ACKNOWLEDGES E APPROVAL REQUESTED WITHIN THIS APPLICATION IS LIMITED TO THE RD SPECIFIC SPECIAL USE AND APPROVF THIS REQUEST SHALL NOT OPERATE S APPROVAL OR WAIVER OF ANY OTHER PROVISION OF THE LAND DEVELOPMEE OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE WILL ASK THAT THE, IF IT IS , THAT IT IS ALLOWED TO GO WITH AE SALE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE MOE BE ALLOWED TO REMAIN UNDER ANY W OWNERSHIP.

>> ALL RIGHT. BRADLEY, IS THAT IN THE FINDING? >> IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT'S IN CON

NUMBER 1, MR. CHAIR. >> NEVER MIND. THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? >> NO, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> ALL RIGHT. >> GLAD TO ANSWER THEM. >> I'M AMAZED WITH WHAT THEY GES SITE PLAN, HAND DRAWN STUFF. I GUESS HE DRAWS THINGS FOR A L. LET'S GO THROUGH OUR LIST OF EXE

AND QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. MR. MATOVINA. >> NO EX PARTE, NO QUESTIONS.

>> MR. ALAIMO. >> NO EX PARTE AND NO QUESTIONS. >> MS. PERKINS.

>> NO EX PARTE, NO QUESTIONS. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER HAS NO EX PAD NO QUESTIONS.

MR. WAINRIGHT. >> NO EX PARTE. I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

CAN YOU SHOW US WHAT IT WILL LO? >> I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE A PICF IT, NO.

I KNOW IT'S QUITE SIMILAR TO THS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT, NO, I DON'T, I'LL I'M S.

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>> DR. HILSENBECK. >> NO EX PARTE, NO QUESTIONS, T. >> DR. MCCORMICK.

>> . BILL, ARE YOU THERE? ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS? >> NO. >> DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE FOS

ONE? >> IT SAYS CALL WAITING, ONE, BI DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOMEONE TR

NOT. >> THANK YOU, MR. OBVIOUS. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE FOR TH, SIR? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THEN WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY. THANK YOU, SIR.

YOU MAY HAVE A SEAT. LOOKING FOR ANY COMMENTS OR A M. >> MOTION TO APPROVE SUPMIN 2024 COLLIER RESIDENCE, REQUEST FOR L USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE USEA MANUFACTURED/MOBILE HOME AS A RE IN RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY R3 ZONING PURSUANT TO LAND DEVELOPE SECTION 2.03.08 SPECIFICALLY LOE 900 WEST 4TH STREET BASED ON SEN FINDINGS OF FACT AND SUBJECT TON CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE SF

REPORT. >> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.

MOTION THE I AND A SECOND YET A. YOU MAKE A GOOD TEAM THERE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> I ONLY HAVE ONE COMMENT, ANDS I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ARE IN MAR BEING THE DESIGNATE MOTION MAKE.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, GREG. >> ALL RIGHT.

GOING THROUGH THE LIST, MR. MAT, HOW SAY YOU? >> YES.

>> MR. ALAIMO. >> YES. >> MS. PERKINS.

>> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> MR. WAINRIGHT VOTES NO IF I T KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHT LOOKS LIKE, I'M UNCOMFORTABLE W.

>> ALL RIGHT. DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES.

>> AND DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES 6-1 AND PASSES. THAT IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 9, JENR

[9. SUPMAJ 2020-11 Amici 4COP/SFS.]

UNDERHILL. HOW ARE YOU TODAY. >>

>> GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? >> MY NAME IS JENNIFER UNDERHIL.

I'M REPRESENTING AND A MEMBER O. WEAR HERE TO REQUEST A SPECIAL E PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE ON-SITED CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL BEVERAGER KOPF/SFS IN CONJUNCTION WITH A G RESTAURANT TO ALLOW TRANSFER OF

OWNERSHIP. >> ARCHIE ASKED IF YOU HAVE ANYS THAT OF AVAILABLE.

>> NO, SORRY. >> AHEAD OF TIME. PLEASE GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. AND THIS IT'S ALREADY -- EVERYTS ALREADY ZONED OUT.

WE JUST CAN'T TRANSFER THE LIQUR LICENSE SO WE ARE HERE TO REQUEW ONE.

>> ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S IT. WE'LL GO THROUGH OUR LIST ONCE O DECLARE EX PARTE OR ANY QUESTIOR THE APPLICANT. MR. MATOVINA.

>> NO EX PARTE, NO QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. MR. ALAIMO.

>> NO EX PARTE AND NO QUESTIONS. >> MS. PERKINS. >> NO EX PARTE, NO QUESTIONS.

>> MR. KOPPENHAFER, NO EX PARTEO QUESTIONS. MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> ONE EXCEPT NO EX PARTE. THAT SITE, THAT BUILDING EXISTS? >> YES, SIR.

>> IS THAT -- WHAT IS IT NOW? >> IT'S AMICI ITALIAN RESTAURAN. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. DR. HILSENBECK. >> NOAKS PAR TO NO EX PARTE AE EATEN THERE ON NUMEROUS OCCASIOD HAD ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES THERE, O EX PARTE OTHER THAN THAT.

THANK YOU. NO QUESTIONS. >> DR. MCCORMICK.

>> NOE NONE AND NONE. >> ALL RIGHT. MAKE THIS A RECORD DAY HERE.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERSS. >> NO. >> DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKES

ONLINE, SIR. >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO AD? >> NO, SIR. >> YOU MAY HAVE A SEAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY THE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE SUPMAJ 2021 REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIO ALLOW FOR THE ON-SITE SALE AND G SUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGESR SECTION 2 MEANT 03.02 OF THE LAD DEVELOPMENT CODE IN CONJUNCTIONN EXISTING RESTAURANT TO ALLOW FOR TRANSFER OF OWNER HIPP SUBJECT 1 CONDITIONS AND EIGHT FINDINGS OS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, WE WILL GO THROUGR

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ROLL CALL VOTE ONCE AGAIN. MR. MATOVINA. >> YES.

>> MR. ALAIMO. >> YES. >> MS. PERKINS.

>> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES.

>> AND DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES. >> .

>> MOTION CARRIES NAN MUST. THANK YOU VERY UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER TURNEDN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PERMIT. ITEM NUMBER 10.

[10. REZ 2020-17 Ravenswood Subdivision.]

>> MR. CHAIRMAN. >> YES, SIR. >> SOMEBODY ELSE HAS IS ON ACHEA

MOTION ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I'M N THIS ONE AND DECLARING A CONFLI. >> UNDERSTOOD.

I'LL LEAVE THAT ON OUR SHOULDER, MEGAN. MR. PORTERGOOD AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU. BOB PORTER WITH D.R. HORTON 422E TRACK ROAD.

WE ALL KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NEEDR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND WE SPENA YEAR WITH A WORKSHOP PUTTING TON ORDNANCE. THAT PASSED THIS SUMMER BY A 5-. SO WE NOW HAVE A STRUCTURE FOR O DEAL WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING. WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TALK AS WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE THE RIGH& FOR IT. Y KNOW IN YOUR PACK -- I KNOW IR PACKAGE YOU SAW THAT THE PROPERE LOOKING AT IS SURROUND BY KRESSD REZ D LAND USE AND SOME PUBLIC E SO WE FIT IN WITH THAT.

WE HAVE -- THERE YOU GO. THIS IS AT THE END OF VAIR YELLE COMING OFF OF 16 WHICH IS BASICY WHERE THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT IS WITE WHALE TAIL OUT IN FRONT ON 16TH. SO THAT WOULD GO STRAIGHT INTO E PROPERTY. IT GIVES US GOOD ACCESS. THERE'S A SECONDARY ACCESS ON H OUT TO RAVENSWOOD. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO BASIS TO JUST FOLLOW THE -- THIS IS ST ZONING. IT'S NOTE A PUD. TO FOLLOW THE NEW HOANDERS THATL BE SUBJECT TO THE LOT SIZES ANDE DENSITY AND THE ORDNANCE AT LEAF THE HOMES HAVE TO SELL TO THE IL PURCHASER AT 210 OR LESS, AND HE OWNER OCCUPIED WITH THE INITIALE WAY THE ORDINANCE WORKS.

SO WE WANTED TO KIND OF SHOW YOE THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT SPOT. FIRST WE'VE GOT THE SURROUNDINGD USE, BUT WE'VE GOT A MAP HERE. THERE WE GO. YOU CAN SEE WE ARE CLOSE TO EVE.

THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ACTUALLY A TENTH OF MILE. IT'S THE END OF CROOK SHANK.

WE WILL NOT BE OPENING UP CROOKO THERE WON'T BE ANY TRAFFIC GOIN, VEHICULAR TRAFFIC GOING BY THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BUT THERE WILA SIDEWALK THAT CONNECTS IT SO ITE EASY ACCESS FOR THE KIDS FROM TE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL S THAN A MILE AND A HALF AWAY.

IT IS LESS THAN 3 MILES FROM THY OFFICES, ABOUT 3.5 MILES FROM TT AND DOWNTOWN, SO THERE ARE A LOF SERVICE JOBS IN THE AREA. IT IS EASY TO GET TO. THE PUBLIC IS LESS THAN TWO MILT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GREAT SIR IT, AND DELIGHTED TO HAVE IT HE.

SO IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIO. I THINK WE HAVE FOUND THE RIGHTR

THIS AND A NEED WE ALL KNOW WE . >> BOB, SINCE THIS IS THE FIRSTE WE'RE SEEING AND THERE'S A COUPE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION, I DON'T A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN THEIRS AROUND THIS TYPE OF ZONING, AND OBVIOUSLY WHAT IT'S USED FOR, BU COULD PUT SOME MORE MEAT ON THES THEY SAY, FOR SOME OF THE FOLKSO

MIGHT NOT BE HERE. >> SURE. WHAT WE INTEND TO DO, I KNOW I E OF THE LETTERS THAT CAME IN, PET WERE WORRIED ABOUT LOSING ALL OE WETLANDS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

YOU KNOW, IT'S OVER 60 ACRES. WE CAN'T GET A SITE THIS SIDES H FLORIDA AND NOT HAVE SOME WETLA.

IT'S INEVITABLE WE WILL HAVE SOE IMPACTS, BUT THEY'RE MINOR, AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO WILL BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL FTZ RULES FE CORPS ENGINEERS, WATER MANAGEMET DISTRICT WITH THE COUNTY AND THD OF THING. BASICALLY WHAT WE EXPECT TO DO E HAVEN'T DONE THE ENGINEERING.

ONE OF THE NICE THINGS ABOUT THW ORDINANCE, FROM MY STANDPOINT, M INDUSTRY STANDPOINT, IS WE DO NE TO GO SPEND $100,000 TO $200,00G ALL OF THE ENGINEERING AHEAD OFE BEFORE WE GET HERE.

FIRST WE GET TO FIND OUT, YES, Y AGREES IT'S THE RIGHT SITE, ANDE WILL GO INTO THE COUNTY WITH THE ENGINEERING. BUT WHAT WE EXPECT TO DO IS ABO, AT LEAST 40% OF THE PROPERTY WIE

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TOWNHOMES, ATTACHED, THE REST WE DETACHED SINGLE FEEL. RIGHT NOW HONESTLY I THINK -- SE FAMILY. WE HAVE TO BE 210 OR LESS. I THINK IT WILL BE UNDER $200,0R THE ATTACHED PRODUCT WHICH IS SG YOU DO NOT FIND MUCH OF. I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT HOS MORE AFFORDABLE HOMES IN ST. JOS COUNTY THAN ANYBODY ELSE OUT TH. IT'S ONE THE THINGS WE HAVE SPED

IN, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE CD THIS NEW ORDINANCE. >> THE PROPERTY IS SPLIT WITH TD AND I THINK OPEN RURAL. WHAT WAS THE 126 UNITS WERE ALRY BAKED INTO THE PIE ON THE PUD?

IS THAT RIGHT? >> YEAH, AND I'LL TELL YOU I HAT FOCUSED.

I KNOW THAT THEY HAD TRIED TO DS A TYPICAL PUD, AND THEY COULDN'T BECAUSE IT WAS JUST SO EXPENSIVO DEVELOP, SO THE ADDITIONAL DENST WE GET WITH THE WORKFORCE HOUSIS IT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN AFFORDO AND WE CAN AFFORD TO SELL AT A S THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME OF THE --F THE THE PEOPLE THAT WORK AT THE, SOME ARE FIREMEN AND POLICEMEN D TEACHERS AND A LOT OF FOLKS THAE JUST NOT SERVED NOW.

THEY END UP HAVING TO DRIVE -- F THEM DRIVE ACROSS THE RIVER INTR NORTH DUVAL, THAT KIND OF THINGO

WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOMETHING TS FOR THOSE FOLKS HERE IN TOWN. >> .

>> WE'RE LIST, AND DECLARING EX PARTE OR QUESTR THE APPLICANT.

LET'S SKIP GREG. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTR EX PARTE?

>> NO EARNLINGS ARCHITECTS AND O QUESTIONS. >>Y MS. PERKS.

>> NO EX PARTE. NO QUESTIONS. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER ASKED HIS QU.

NO EX PARTE. MR. WAINRIGHT. >> NO EX PARTE AND I HAVE TWO Q.

MR. PORTER, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF E HOMES WILL BE AT THAT LEVEL? >> IT'S A MINIMUM OF 40%.

>> 40%. AND HOW LONG DO THE FOLKS WHO MT CRITERIA HOLD THE PROPERTY BEFOY

SELL IT TO SOMEONE WHO DOES NOTT THAT CRITERIA? >> ONE OF THE REASONS WE SET ITH IS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE EVEN IF O SELL IT, THAT WE STILL HAVE SO Y AFFORDABLE, BUT THE RESTRICTIONY ON THE INITIAL PURCHASER. WE HAVE TO SELL THE HOME TO SOMY THAT IS GROWING TO GOING TO LT IF IT'S SOMEBODY IN THE NAVY WHS HIS ORDERS SIX MONTHS LATER ANDO MOVE, HE CAN SELL IT TO ANYBODYE CAN GET TO ABOUT IT THAT TO ME F THE DIPLOMAS WE HAVE ALDI ALWAYD WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ONE OFE REASONS I HAVEN'T WANTED TO DO F IT IS WE SELL HERE IN NORTH FLOA ABOUT 25% OF OUR HOMES TO FOLKSE IN THE NAVY. IF YOU DO IT WITH THE AFFORDABL, TYPICAL AFFORDABLE, THERE'S A 5E OR TEN OR 20-YEAR RESTRICTION IU WANT TO MOVE, YOU CANNOT RENT IS IT'S SOMEBODY THAT QUALIFIES, YT SELL IT UNLESS IT'S SOMEBODY THT QUALIFIES, AND IF THE INTEREST O UP, IT'S JUST HARD TO DO, SO THS

JUST FOR THE FIRST TIME. >> GOT IT. THANK YOU.

>> DR. HILSENBECK. >> NO EX PARTE, BUT HAVE A COUPE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

IT WAS STATED THAT 40% OF THE PY WILL BE WORKFORCE HOUSING. I THINK LOOKING AT YOUR SITE MAI THINK IT'S REALLY ABOUT 15% OF E PROPERTY WOULD BE WORKFORCE HOUO 40% OF THE UNITS MIGHT BE A BETY TO STATE THAT IN THE FUTURE. I'M LOOKING AT THAT MAP, AND I'T ESTIMATING 15%.

AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS CAN'TA I. LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC ABOT WETLAND IMPACTS.

IT WAS STATED IN THE APPLICATIOT THE SITE PLAN SHOWED NO APPAREND IMPACTS TO THOSE 11.3 ACRES OF , BUT YOU JUST STATED A MOMENT AGT THERE MAY BE SOME IMPACTS, SO CU POSSIBLY BE A LITTLE BIT LITTLEE SPECIFIC. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVENE YOUR FULL SITE ENGINEERING AND T YET. BUT IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT, I WOULD BE GRATEFUL.

THANK YOU. >> SURE. AND YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

IT IS 40% OF THE UNITS, AND I'MY THAT THAT WAS NOT CLEAR. THAT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE ORDINAD I'LL BE SURE I PRESENT IT RIGHTT TIME. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

WHERE WE COME IN FROM VAIREELLAN SEE THE ARROW COMING FROM THE NH BENDS BACK TO THE EAST A LITTLE.

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ULTIMATELY THAT HAS TO GO BACK E WEST AND THERE IS A NORTH-SOUTHD THAT WE WILL CROSS TO GET THE ED IN SO WE CONNECT THE NORTH AND H OF THE PROPERTY. THAT'S THE BIGGEST IMPACT.

AND IT IS NOT GOING TO BE VERY . WE'RE NOT REALLY IMPACTING A LOF WETLAND.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM. AND I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY BEE HAVEN'T DONE IT, BUT 80 OR 90% E

WETLANDS WILL BE MAINTAINED WITY IMPACTS AT ALL. >> OKAY.

SO THOSE SMALL WETLAND IMPACTS L REQUIRE MITIGATION, IS THAT COR? >> WE WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RD GENERALLY, YES, SIR, THAT DOES E SOME FORM OF MITIGATION, WHETHES ON-SITE OR TYPICALLY IT'S BUYINS IN THE MITIGATION BANK, UHL BUTL FOLLOW ALL OF THOSE RULES, COUNS WELL AS LOCAL.

>> AND I DO THINK THAT ACCESS AS IS BETTER COMING OUT ONTO CROOKK ROAD WITH THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLT

THERE SO THAT DOES SEEM SOUND. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

DR. MCCORMICK. >> YEAH, I HAVE NO EX PARTE. THAT THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT, ANM

READY TO SUPPORT IT. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

HAVE ANYTHING MORE? DO WE HAVE IN YOU PUBLIC SPEAKE. >>

>> I WOULD MENTION ONE OTHER TH. ONE OF OUR SELLERS THAT WE'RE BT FROM, THE ONE WHERE VAIRIELLA CN IS ACTUALLY THE ST. JOHNS HOUSIG PARTNERSHIP. THEY HAVE 12 ACRES, ABOUT HALF S USABLE, BUT THEY CAN'T AFFORD TP IT, SO WE ARE BUYING IT FROM THH THE IDEA THAT THEY WILL NOT U. E $300,000 IN CASH THEY CAN USE TY LOTS THEY CAN AFFORD TO BUILD O. SO THIS IS GOING TO HELP AFFORDE

HOMES IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. >> ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS? >> YES, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEA.

BRENT AND KATHLEEN BLACKSHEAR. ARE YOU HERE? YOU CAN COME FORWARD, GIVE US YE AND ADDRESS. NAMES AND ADDRESS. AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTESM

THEN TO TELL US WHAT YOU WOULD O TELL US. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

BRETT AND KATHLEEN BLACKSHEAR, S 1521 DOLOR AVENUE. SO WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO WHERE THS PROPOSED PROJECT IS COMING IN. THOUGH I DON'T SEE DOLOR AVENUE SPECIFICALLY DELINEATED ON THATE DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THEE AND THE WETLANDS SPECIFICALLY, , JUST IN GENERAL.

WHERE THERE'S DRAINAGE FOR ALL E LANE CLEARING AND GOING TO HAPPD WHERE IS THAT GOING TO REDIRECTE WATER AND THE DRAINAGE AND RUNOD THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE HAVE S ABOUT THAT.

PRIVACY IS AN ISSUE AS WELL. IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY SORT OF PROPOSED FENCE AROUND THE PROJE, AROUND THE PROPERTY? DOES THIS PROJECT -- IS THIS GOO CHANGE THE ZONING FOR OUR PROPER EXAMPLE? THE ZONING CHANGES GOING TO WORE HOUSING, DOES THAT AFFECT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES OUTSIDE E PROJECT? NATURALLY WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUR PROPERTY VALUE AS WELL AS OUR PY TAXES OF HOW THEY WILL BE IMPAC. ALSO, THE QUESTIONS ABOUT SEPTID SEWER, WILL THAT CHANGE THE WAYE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WILL BE D TO TIE INTO ANY NEW SEWER SYSTET ARE BEING PUT IN PLACE? CURRENT WE'RE ON SEPTIC, FOR EX. AND WILL THAT CHANGE?

AND I THINK THAT IS ESSENTIALLYE SHORT LIST I HAVE. >> ANY FURTHER COMMENT?

>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU BOTH. ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? >> NO.

>> ALL RIGHT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE C? I'M SORRY.

LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ON. ANYONE ONLINE, SIR? >> JUST ONE, I BELIEVE.

>> I SEE A FINGER. ALL RIGHT. IF YOU CAN PUT THEM ON, PLEASE.

HELLO. HELLO? >> HI.

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>> HI. HOW ARE YOU TODAY? >> GOOD.

>> DO YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FS ITEM? >> I WAS CONCERNED, ONE, ABOUT E PRIVACY, AS THEY SAID, IS THE TE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES GOING TO BE? AND MY SECOND COMMENT WAS THAT SERVANTY'S CORNER WHERE HE'S HAN ENTRANCE IS IS A VERY DANGEROUSR AND I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S D OF SPEED BUMP THAT WILL BE PUT E SINCE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE H TRAFFIC THERE.

ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM? >> THAT'S IT. >> MR. CHAIR, COULD WE HAVE HERD

ADDRESS. >> I'M SORRY. COULD WE GET YOUR NAME AND ADDR.

>> MY NAME IS BERTA GALVAN. ADDRESS 440 AVILA AVENUE, ST. A, FLORIDA 32084.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> MR. PORTER.

>> THANK YOU. AS FOR THE QUESTION OF A SPEED E WILL PROBABLY TRY AND INCLUDE OR ROAD BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAE RACING THROUGH IT, BUT OUT ON VA OR CERVANTES, THOSE ARE BOTH COY ROADS, WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT O MANAGE LIKE THAT. I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE COUNY AND DO IT BUT I DON'T KNOW IF TA PROCEDURE FOR THAT. AS FOR THE QUESTION OF WETLANDSE GOING TO TRY TO SAVE AS MANY AS. I DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT AREAE GENTLEMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT IS ON BUT HAPPY TO GET WITH YOUY AND FIGURE IT OUT. AS FOR DRAINAGE, WE ARE VERY, VY CAREFUL ABOUT DRAINAGE. THAT IS THE EASIEST WAY IN THE R TO US GET IN TROUBLE IS IF THERN EXISTING PROBLEM, SO IF YOU'RE F A PROBLEM, AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO TO YOU ABOUT IT.

WE'LL MAKE SURE AS WE DISHIENT F THERE'S AN EXISTING PROBLEM, WEY AND MAKE IT BETTER.

WE WILL CERTAINLY NOT DO ANYTHIT MAKES IT WORSE. THAT WE CAN CLEARLY COMMIT TO AE

GLAD TO. >> FENCING, PRIVACY? >> I'M SORRY.

>> PRIVACY FENCING OR ANYTHING E THAT. >> PRIVACY FENCE, WE HAVEN'T GOT FAR ALONG WITH THE LAYOUT BUT BN I'LL GET WITH YOU. IF WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHINGI OBJECT TRUCE IS I HAVE, WE'LL WH YOU ON THAT. AS FOR SEPTIC TANKS, ALONG CROOK THERE WERE SEVERAL MOBILE HOMESD WELLS AND SEPTIC TANKS IN THEM. THOSE WILL ALL BE -- THE MOBILES ARE GONE THE SEPTIC TANKS AND DRAINFIELDS WILL BE TAKEN OUT AF OUR DEVELOPMENT.

EVERYTHING THAT WE DO WILL BE OL WATER AND SEWER. BUT THAT SHOULD NOT AFFECT YOU.

DID I MISS ANY? >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY. MIKE ROBERTSON.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND FILL IN FROM S PERSPECTIVE AS WELL. THANK YOU, MR. PORTER.

YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT WHETHER WOUT CHANGE YOUR ZONING. AND IT WILL NOT.

YOUR ZONING WILL REMAIN THE SAM. THIS IS FOR THAT PARTICULAR PRO. PROPERTY VALUES IS A SEPARATE T.

THAT'S SOMETHING BETWEEN -- RIG. OKAY. AS FAR AS UTILITIES, IF MR. POR, THEY'RE RUNNING CENTRAL WATER A, IF IT HAPPENS TO RUN BY, THAT MA BENEFIT TO YOU.

YOU WON'T BE MANDATED TO CONNEC. SO I THINK THAT MAYBE ANSWER THD QUESTION.

TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE. OUR STAFF, WE HAVE ENGINEERS ONF THAT REVIEWED THAT.

HE'LL HAVE A PRIVATE ENGINEER BE HAVE STAFF THAT LOOK TO MAKE SUT DRAINAGE DOES NOT ILLEGALLY GO E AND IS CAPTURED AND IS ROUTED TE APPROPRIATE WAY. AND WE HAVE INSPECTORS THAT GO D LOOK AT THAT. AND THE OTHER ISSUE WITH REGARDO TRAFFIC AND SIGHT OF SAFETY, OUR ENGINEERS ALSO LOOK AT THAT, WHR NOT A SPEED BUMP CAN BE INSTALL, THAT'S -- THAT'S SOMETHING FOR O LOOK AT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S VERY COMMOH I KNOW THERE ARE SOME I THINK IG THAT MASTER'S ROAD, BUT THEY DOT A FOR SAFETY AND MAKE SURE IT MS ENGINEERING STANDARDS, WHICH SAS PROBABLY THE PRIMARY THING THATY LOOK FOR. I THINK SO WERE SOME OF THE THANKS YOU HAD ASKED FOR FROM SS PERSPECTIVE. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS?

>> THE ONLY OTHER -- LAND CLEARING FOR PRIVACY AS WES MITIGATION AS WELL.

IMPACT THIS -- >> SO THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS WHE DEVELOPER HAS TO -- OFTEN THEY O

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CLEAR A LOT TO BE ABLE TO GET TE PROPERTY, SAY IF THEY HAVE TO, E TRACK WHAT'S CLEARED AND WHAT IS REQUIRED TO BE REPLANTED. SOMETIMES THEY NEED TO CLEAR AN, BUT THEY'LL REPLANT IN OTHER ARD I THINK, MR. PORTER HAS INDICATE SOME FENCING WILL BE THERE. I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THE SITE, IE IS A BUFFER THAT'S ON THE SITE R NOT THAT'S. IT'S NOT REQUIRED BECAUSE THIS A PUD. BUT FENCING IS SCREENING. I JOE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD O ADD. SO THERE WOULD BE A 10A, WHICH A 10-FOOT AND A SCREENING WHICH MS THERE IS LANDSCAPING INSTALLED. IT'S MINIMAL BUT IT'S IN THERE. THANK YOU.

>> AND, MR. CHAIRMAN, NOT TO JUD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, I HOPE Y ABSORBED ALL THAT, BUT IN TERMSF EXISTING ROADWAYS, THE TRAFFIC OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT DOES HAVEA TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY AND PROCR EVALUATING WHETHER THINGS LIKE D BUMPS ARE APPROPRIATE ON EXISTI. IT'S A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WOULDE TO DETERMINE VIEWM VOLUME AN. THERE IS A POLICY ADOPTED BY THD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND IMPD

BY TRAFFIC OPERATIONS THAT CAN E EXPLORED. >> RIGHT.

>> THANK YOU. MR. APPLICANT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTE TO ADD?

OKAY. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

WE DID THE PUBLIC SPEAKING PART. THAT'S IT. THEN WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY FR

COMMENTS OR MOTIONS. >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. RECOMMEND APPROVAL REZONING 202T 17 RAIRCHESWOOD SUBDIVISION BASD FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND THEN WEA SECOND TO APPROVE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MATTERING NONE, WE WILL VOTE. MOVING DOWN THE LIST, MR. ALAIM.

>> YES. >> MS. PERKINS. >> YES.

>> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES.

>> DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES. >> DR. MCCORMICK.

>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS 6-0.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA THERE. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11.

[11. MAJMOD 2020-06 Premium Pointe at Anderson Park PUD.]

MS. WHITTINGTON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, PZA. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> I'M MISSING THE POINTER. MY NAME IS KATHRYN WHITTINGTON,N MOARKS AVENUE SANTIAGO 32O.84.

WITH ME HERE TODAY I'M REPRESENG ELEVATION DEVELOPMENT LSTLES. WITH ME IS MIKE RICH AND KAHANIR ELEVATION. ALSO WITH KIMLEY-HORN & ASSOCIAS BILL SHILLING AND BRIAN DYCHE.

IT'S BEEN A LONG BUT VERY QUICK. JUFN KELLY DID A GREAT JOB ON TF REPORT NOT HIS OR STAFF'S. WE JUST RECENTLY DISCOVERED THAE OPEN SPACE LISTED IN OUR APPLICS INCORRECT IT. SAYS THERE ARE 126.1 ACRES, 66%E PROPERTY ACTUALLY, IT'S 103.1 AR 54%. IT HAPPENED BECAUSE THERE WERE E OVERLAPS IN THE SCENIC AND DEVET EDGES AND THE PRESERVED WETLANDT WERE INADVERTENTLY DOUBLE COUNT. NEVERTHELESS, WE'RE STILL MORE N TWICE THE MINIMUM OF 25% THAT'SD UNDER THE CODE. SECOND, YOU MAY NOTICE THERE'S E IN THE NAME. IT WAS PREMIUM POINTE, AND NOW S ELEVATION POINT.

WE DID THAT TO RESOLVE CONCERNSE PREMIUM OUTLETS MALL THAT WE JUT RECENTLY BECAME -- PRESENTED WI.

THEY WERE AFRAID THERE WOULD BE CONFUSION BETWEEN THEIR SHOPPINL AND OUR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT,Y CLIENT AGREED TO CHANGE TO NAMEO ELEVATION POINTE AND WE WILL MAE CHANGES IN THE DOCUMENTATION BEW AND BCC. AND NOW FOR OUR PRESENTATION. BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION TO THE D,

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ELEVATION DEVELOPMENT LLC IS ONE LEADING REAL ESTATE ACQUISITIOND DEVELOPMENT FIRMS SPECIALIZE 9 DEVELOPMENT OF BOTH RESIDENTIALD COMMERCIAL CAN PROJECTS. RANGE FROM COMMERCIAL, RETAIL WH SINGLE FAMILY, TOWNHOME, MULTI-Y PROJECTS. THEY CURRENTLY HAVE ONGOING PRON SEVERAL COUNTIES IN FLORIDA. THESE ARE SOME REPRESENTATIVE PS THAT ELEVATION HAS EITHER COMPLR CURRENTLY ARE IN THE WORKS. THIS IS A -- ON THE LEFT SIGH CN KISSIMMEE AND ON THE RIGHT AUTO, CARE NOW CLINIC IN STANFORD. THIS IS AN ARTIST'S RENDERING OR MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT CALLED LYNN THE CITY OF DAVENPORT IN CENTRAA CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS THEIR INFIELD PROJECT IM E STARTING CONSTRUCTION THIS MOO ARE IN DECEMBER. YOU CAN SEE THEY REALLY ARE QUAY DEVELOPERS. HERE'S AN AERIAL OF THE AREA. IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF I-95, T SOUTH OF STATE ROAD 16, AND NORF COUNTY ROAD TWOGHT 208 AND WESTS ROAD.

HERE YOU CAN SEE THE ACTUAL PROT BOUNDARIES IN YELLOW. IT'S ENTIRELY LOCATED IN THE ANN PARK PUD THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APN 1996. PORTIONS OF THIS -- OF THE PROJR PROJECT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE YELLW BOUNDARIES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEN DEVELOPED APPROXIMATELY 7 ACRES.

THERE'S A WAFFLE HOUSE, A RACETS STATION, AND AN UNDEVELOPED HOT. THERE'S FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S ENTIRELY WITHIE MIXED USE DISTRICT THAT THE MIXE DISTRICT NODE AT I-95 AND STATE.

HERE'S A ZONING MAP. THAT SHOWS IT'S ALREADY ZONED PT FOR OUR PORTION THAT PUD HAS NOD FOR THIS PROPERTY. THERE'S AN INTERESTING SLIDE OFE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS.

REALLY DEMONSTRATES THAT THIS IC INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND THE PROVL HOLE IN THE DOUGHNUT, SO NECESST DOES NOT PROMOTE URBAN SPRAWL. HERE'S THE OUTLET MALL, THE COML DEVELOPMNT AROUND IT, WHISPER RD HERE, GRAY HAWK HERE, AND THEN N SEE HOW FULLY DEVELOPED AROUND P HERE.

THE APPLICANT HAS GONE DO GREATH TOSS DESIGN A MIXED USE THAT ISD IN YOUR COMP PLAN POLICY A119.2T SAYS THAT IT IS DISENDZ INTEPPET HIGHEST LAND USE INTENSITIES OCT THE CENTER OF THE MOIKD USE DISS WITH DECREASING PURPOSES PROCEEG OUTWARD TOWARD THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.

HERE'S A GRAPHIC DEPICTION OF I. YOU CAN SEE THE DARK PURPLE ON E WITHIN OUR PROJECT.

THAT PURPLE ALSO CONTINUES OVERL UP IN HERE. SO HERE'S THE CENTER OF THE MIXE NODE. DECREASING IN INTENSITY IN THE M PURPLE, WHICH IS OUR MULTI-FAMIE NORTH AND TOWNHOME TO THE SOUTHD THEN AGAIN DECREASING YET AGAINE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY WHISPER RIDGE AND GRAY HAWK TO THE WESTT PURPLE. HERE'S THE ORIGINAL PUD RIGHT NS THE REVISED PUD. THE ANDERSON PARK PUD IS A MIXEE PROJECT.

THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED WIE DEVELOPMENT TOTALS YOU SEE ON TT IN ORANGE.

ONLY 6,632 SQUARE FEET HAS BEENT OUT ON ABOUT 7 ACRES, LEAVING 38 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AND O, AND 670,000 SQUARE FEET OF INDUL STILL REMAINING. ON THE RIGHT IN THE GREEN YOU SE NEW PROPOSED PLAN ON 78.88 ACRE. IT'S 190,000 SQUARE FEET OF NON-RESIDENTIAL, 240 HOTEL ROOMU FAMILY UNITS, 320 TOWNHOME DEVE, WHICH IS THE UNITS ARE 430. THERE IS AN INCREASE OF RESIDENL UNITS OF 630 BECAUSE 120 WAS APD UNDER THE ORIGINAL PUD, BUT THEA DECREASE IN COMMERCIAL AND OFFIF 150,000 AND A DECREASE IN INDUSF ALL OF IT, 670,000. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE ORIGINAL SN

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THAT WAS APPROVED THAT SHOWS WHE USES ARE LOCATED. THE FOUR PARCELS IN RED, THIS OS ONE, THIS ONE, AND THIS ONE, ARE INDUSTRIAL PARCELS, TWO OF WHICE AND HERE, ARE IMMEDIATELY ADJACO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELN WHISPER RIDGE. THE PNCH PUNISHING PARCEL ISH IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY. IT WILL STILL BE MULTI-FAMILY. ACTUALLY THAT'S KIND OF ORANGE.

THESE PINK PARCELS ARE THE NON-RESIDENTIAL WHICH IS WHAT WE STILL PROPOSING SITUATED ALONG E ROAD 16. AND HERE IS THE NEW PROPOSED SIN WITH MULTI-FAMILY HERE, TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT HERE, AND THE NON-RESIDENTIAL STILL ALONG STAD 16, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE DER IS COMMITTING TO CONSTRUCT THE REALIGNMENT OF COUNTY ROAD 208 H THE CENTER OF THE PROJECT, WHICL SHILLING WILL TOUCH ON IN JUST . HERE THEY ARE SIDE BY SIDE. AND YOU CAN SEE THIS WAS INDUST.

IT'S NOW MULTI-FAMILY. THIS WAS INDUSTRIAL. IT'S NOW A POND.

THIS WAS MULTI-FAMILY -- OR MULY BUT NOW IT'S TOWNHOME, WHICH IS MULTI-FAMILY.

THIS INDUSTRIAL IS MORE OF THE . THIS INDUSTRIAL IS TOWNHOME. AND THEN THE -- LOST MY POINTER- THE COMMERCIAL IS STILL THE SAM. SO NOW I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVEL SCHILLING TO TALK ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND SOME OFE PROJECT DETAILS. HE'S ALREADY BEAT ME UP HERE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, AGENCY MEMBE. I'M BILL SCHILLING WITH KIMLEY-& ASSOCIATES 127040 GRAND BAY PART SUITE 2250 JACKSON 33258 AND AMM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PICK UP TE AND HIT THAT I THINK ARE A COUPF IMPORTANT TRAFFIC POINTS WHILE N THE SLIDE. KATHRYN MENTIONED THE CHANGES TE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND WHILE AGAE IS AN INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL U, THERE IS A CLEARLY A VERY SIGNIT REDUCTION IN INDUSTRIAL, AND OVN THE COMPARISON OF WHAT IS APPROD PREVIOUSLY VERSUS WHAT'S PROPOS, IT DOES REPRESENT A REDUCTION IL TRAFFIC GENERATION OUT OF THIS . OVERALL IT'S ROUGH WILL A 20% RN IN TRAFFIC. THE OTHER THING THAT WE THINK ID FOR THIS AREA IS WITHIN INDUSTRE WOULD HAVE EXPECTED MUCH MORE HY TRAFFIC, SEMI-TRUCK DISPRARVETIO WITH THE ELIMINATION OF INDUSTRE BELIEVE THAT THIS SITE WILL GENR LESS TRUCK AND HEAVY VEHICLE TRD MORE VEHICULAR PASSENGER TRAFFID TO THIS AREA. SO I WANT TO TALK FOR A COUPLE S ABOUT THE BUFFERS, AND AS EVERYN SEE, THE CENTER PORTION OF THE A VERY LARGE WETLAND. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I Y LIKE ABOUT THIS PLAN AS COMPAREE PRIOR PLAN IS UP AGAINST WHISPEE WHAT WAS AN INDUSTRIAL SITE ANDE NOT NECESSARILY COMPATIBLE WITHR RIDGE, WE ARE NOW PROPOSING THAA POND, A STORM WATER POND, WHICHK IS WAY MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THEE FAMILY USES TO OUR WEST. ALSO IN THOSE AREAS WHERE WE DOE USES THAT ABUT THE SINGLE FAMILE NORTH HERE AND TO THE SOUTH, WET OFF, WE ARE COMPLYING WITH THE S DEVELOPMENT EDGE REQUIREMENTS, L HAVE A 35-FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGER WESTERN BOUNDARY.

AND AS WELL WHERE WE HAVE DEVELP AGAINST OR ADJACENT TO WINTER H, WHICH IS THIS DEVELOPMENT AND WS TER RIDGE HERE, WE'RE COMMITTINA MINIMUM 20B BUFFER, AND ACTUALLL BE EXCEEDING THAT BECAUSE IN THB BUFFER YOU HAVE TO HAVE 20 FEETD WE'LL ACTUALLY BE HAVING 35 FEEE OF THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE.

I KNOW KATHRYN MENTIONED ALREADE OPEN SPACE. WE'RE MORE THAN DOUBLE TOP SPACE REQUIREMENT OF THE COUNTY CODE. WE'RE ROUGHLY AT 54% VERSUS A REQUIREMENT OF 25%.

AND THEN AS WELL ON THE SCENIC E ARE MEETING THE COUNTY REQUIREMF THE 75-FOOT AVERAGE SCENIC EDGED

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AGAIN IT'S AN AVERAGE SO UP ALOE ROAD 16 THERE ARE AREAS WHERE IS ALLOWED TO GO DOWN TO A MINIMUMF 30 FEET AND ALONG THE REEL LINE8 IT'S ALLOWED TO GO DOWN TO A MIF 50 PEET GUT BEEN A 75-FOOT AVERR THE ENTIRETY. AND THESE BUFFERS, AND I'VE GOTE HERE AND THIS NEXT SLIDE WILL DE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT WE'A GOOD EXAMPLE HERE THAT WE WANTEW IS BETWEEN WHISPER RIDGE AND GR, THESE TWO EXISTING COMMUNITIES R WEST, SIMILARLY, THEY HAVE A BUE THAT TODAY IS 55 FEET AND IT'S Y VERY WELL VEGETATED WITH EXISTIG VEGETATION. WE ANTICIPATE SOMETHING VERY SI.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 35 FEET E IN DEVELOPMENT EDGE THAT WE INTO PRESERVE AS NATURAL VEGETATION,N GRAY HAWK, ON THE GRAY HAWK SIDE PROPERTY LINE ALSO HAS A 35-FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A 75 -- A 70-FOOT, I'M SORRY -- COMBINED R BETWEEN ACTUALLY HAVING DEVELOPN OUR TOWNHOMES HERE VERSUS THE SE FAMILY OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE, D AGAIN, THIS GIVES A GOOD SNAPSHF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. AND AGAIN, PER CODE THE OPACITYH THAT NATURAL VEGETATED AREA HASE LIMITED TO AT LEAST PROVIDING A RESTRICTION TO 75% OPACITY AND L BE COMPLYING WITH THE CODE ON T.

KATHRYN MENTIONED, AND I THINK F THE THINGS THAT ALSO IS VERY EXG ABOUT THIS PROJECT, IS THE COMMT THAT THE DEVELOPER IS MAKING TOE COUNTY TO REALIGN COUNTY ROTE 2. AND -- ROAD 8.

COUNTY ROAD 208 WILL BE REALIGNO COUNTY ROAD, MEETING COUNTY ROAD STANDARDS.

ALSO, THE NEW INTERSECTION WHICA PLANNED TO ALIGN WITH THE WESTEN DRIVEWAY TO THE OUTLET MALL, THE DEVELOPER HAS COMMITTED, MADE A COMMITMENT TO SIGNALIZE THAT INTERSECTION WHEN IT IS WARRANT.

AND WE THINK THAT THIS IS GOINGO PROVIDE A MUCH SAFER ROUTE FOR S THAT LIVE OUT TO THE WEST TO BEO GET UP TO STATE ROAD 16 ON AND E ROAD 16 AT A SIGNALIZED INTERSEN VERSUS DOWN COUNTY ROAD 208 ANDE ROAD 16 TODAY WHICH IS A LITTLEF AN AWKWARD INTERSECTION BECAUSES PROXIMITY TO THE I-95 RAMPS ANDE SIGNALS THERE. ONE OTHER THING SO I DON'T MISSD I'M NOT GOING TERRIBLY IN ORDER, BUT IT SHOULD BE SAID THAT THE T WE HAVE SUBMITTED, OUR CONCURREY APPLICATION AND THE PROJECT WILY FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT WITH E COUNTY'S CONCURRENCY REQUIREMEN. WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT THERE IS O BE A FAIR SHARE OF MITIGATION R, AND AGAIN WE BELIEVE THAT THAT E MORE THAN MITIGATED WITH THE NEY ROAD THAT'S CONSTRUCTED AS A PAE PROJECT. A COUPLE MORE TIDBITS ON TRAFFIF INFORMATION IS THAT THE MODELINE DONE SHOWS THAT -- AND AGAIN THS THIS IS GOING TO BE RESIDENTIALC BECAUSE AGAIN THE COMMERCIAL TRD NON-RESIDENTIAL TRAFFI IS EXEMPM CONCURRENCY REVIEW, BUT THE RESL TRAFFIC, THE MODELING SHOWS THAT ACTUALLY TO THE WEST VERY LITTLR NEW RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC THAT'LLT ON 208, ROUGHLY 10% WILL BE GOIO THE WEST ON STATE ROAD 16 WEEK E VAST MAJORITY OF OUR TRAFFIC WIO AND FROM, TO AND FROM THE EAST E RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC. AND AGAIN, THIS SHOWS ON THIS SU CAN SEE THE INTERSECTION OF 208D WE'RE ANTICIPATING 2 THIS REALIE ARE GOING TO BE REROUTEING TRAFM HAVING TO TAKE BASICALLY A WESTD LEFT AND EEB RIGHT AT THIS INTEN AND ALLOW THEM A SIGNALIZED INTN TO ACCESS STATE ROAD 16. SEE AS A PART OF THE APPLICATIOE ARE FOUR TWHAIFERS REQUESTED, AT TO STEP -- WAIVERS THAT ARE REQ, AND I WANT TO STEP THROUGH THOSY QUICKLY TO MAKE SURE WE HIT ON .

OTHER THAN THESE FOUR WAIVERS TE BEING REQUESTED, THIS APPLICATIN COMPLIES WITH THE LAND DEVELOPM.

IF FIRST ITEM, AND I'VE GOT A CE ADDITIONAL SLIDES, BUT I'LL HIGT THEM FIRST, IS RELATED TO SALE F ALCOHOL BEVERAGES. WE ARE ASKING A WAIVER TO THE 1T REQUIREMENT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A RELIGIOUS BUILDING, RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION WITHIN 1,000 FEET OR PROPERTY.

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SECONDLY, WE'RE ASKING FOR A WAR OUR CORER LOTS FOR THE SECONDARD FRONTAGE TO HAVE A 10-FOOT SETBK RATHER THAN THIS FRONT STET-BAC. AGAIN, THAT'S A PRETTY COMMON R. AND AGAIN IT DOES NOT AFFECT VEY UNITS. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT MANY CORNERN THIS SUBDIVISION, SO IN TOTAL IS ROUGH WILL YOU 4% OR LESS OF THL LOTS IN THIS SUBDIVISION. THE THIRD ITEM IS RELATED TO THE ON-PREMISE NON-RESIDENTIAL SIGN. PER THE CODE, A MAXIMUM OF FOURS ARE ALLOWED.

AGAIN, GIVEN THE SIDES OF THIS , IT JUST DEMANDS FOR US TO ASK FE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE GIVEN THE AMF DEVELOPMENT AND OUR ROAD FRONTA. AND THEN FINALLY, THE FOURTH ITH ARE THE ACCESS CONNECTION POINTR PLAN I KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING H POTENTIAL TENANTS ON THE COMMERL SITE.

WE HAVE SITED DRIVEWAY LOCATION. RIGHT NOW WHERE WE THINK THEY LY WILL GO, BUT THERE MAY NEED TO E ADJUSTMENT TO THAT SWOA WE ARE O FOR THE ABILITY TO ADJUST SOME E DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS AT THE STAFF, AND AS I PART OF OUR COMMITMENTE ARE COMMITTING THAT NONE OF THOE DRIVEWAY ADJUSTMENTS WOULD VIOLE SPACING REQUIREMENTS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO A COUPLE SUPPORT SLIDES.

REALLY THIS RELATED TO THE FIRS. THIS IS A RELIGIOUS BUILDING AND INSTITUTION HERE ON THE NORTH SF STATE ROAD 16 ACROSS FROM OUR P. AS I DIRECT MEASUREMENT, CLEARLE WITHIN 1,000 FEET.

WE CAN COMMIT THAT CERTAINLY THR APARTMENT SITE AND MULTI-FAMILYO THE NORTH.

THE CLOSEST AREA THAT WE HAVE TS DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL WHERE WE D HAVE ALCOHOL SALES IS 500 FEET M THE NEAREST PROPERTY LINE, SO WN COMMIT THAT IN -- THERE WOULD BE WHERE THERE WOULD BE ALCOHOL SAS CLOSER THAN 500 FEET TO THIS INSTITUTION. THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK ISA BENEFIT AND SUPPORTS THE WAIVERT IS THAT WE ARE ALSO ON THE OTHEF STATE ROAD 16 FROM THIS FACILITD STATE ROAD 16 BEING A MAJOR DOT ARTERIAL. REGARDING THE SIGNAGE, SO OUR EY SIGNS, AND I'LL JUST TALK THROUS QUICKLY, SO OUR ENTRY SIGNS WHIE OUR GREEN STARS AND OUR YELLOW RECTANGLES, THOSE ALL COMPLY WIE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE REASON FOR THE WAIVER REQUEE THE BLUE DOTS AND THE PURPLE TRS WHICH ARE OUR ON-PREMISE SIGNS,N ADDITION TO THOSE ON-PREMISE SI, WE'RE REQUESTING THE ABILITY FOH OUTPARCEL USER TO HAVE A SMALL T SIGN ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL PARCELT PUTS US OVER FOUR, AND THE REASR THE WAIVER, AGAIN AS PART OF THE JUSTIFICATION, IN TOTAL WE HAVER 2 MILES OF FRONTAGE WHEN YOU STT CONSIDER STATE ROAD 16 AND COUND 208.

THE C1 AND THE C2 SIGNS, THE ONR WE'RE REQUESTING AS FAR AS SIGNS NUMBER OF SIGNS.

THERE IS NO WAIVER REQUEST AT AR HEIGHT OR SIZE. ALL THE HEIGHTS AND SIZES ARE CG WITH WHAT'S IN THE CODE. AND ON THE SIGNS, WHICH WOULD BE ADDITIONAL SIGNS ON THE OUTPARCE HAVE COMMITTED TO LIMITING THOSO TALLER THAN 8 FEET, SO THERE ISN 8-FOOT RESTRICTION ON THOSE SIGD FOR OUTPARCELS THAT ARE AN ACRER BIGGER, ALSO THERE'S A LIMITATIT THEY CANNOT BE GREATER THAN 75 N AREA, AND FOR OUTPARCELS UNDER E IT'S 50 FEET. SO WE'VE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL LIMITATIONS AND SAFE IMARDZ INTD FOR SOME OF THESE ADDITIONAL SI. I'LL TALK QUICKLY ABOUT THE FISL BENEFITS. SO THIS PROJECT IS ANTICIPATED O GENERATE ROUGHLY 350 NEW JOBS IE COUNTY, ROUGHLY JUST UNDER A QUF A BILLION OR $240 MILLION IN NEW AD VALOREM TAX BASE WHICH EQUATO ROUGHLY $2.5 MILLION IN NEW AD M TO THE COUNTY. WITH THE COMMERCIAL AND THE ADDL RETAIL SALES IT ADDS ROUGHLY $70 ANNUALLY IN SALES TAX. HALF CENT SALES TAX REVENUE.

AGAIN, I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT E ANNUAL AD VALOREM THAT IS ANNUA. AND THEN $11.8 MILLION ROUGHLY D

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IN THE NEW IMPACT FEE REVENUE TE COUNTY. A COUPLE LAST THINGS, AND I KNOE BRINGING THIS HOME, IS WHAT WE S BENEFITS FOR THIS PROJECT IS ITS ROUGHLY 68 ACRES OR 670,000 SQUT OF INDUSTRIAL USES THAT WE DON'E WHERE THEY WERE INCLUDED IN THID WERE COMPATIBLE WITH THOSE ADJAT SINGLE FAMILY USES. AGAIN, IT REPLACES THOSE INDUSTS THAT WERE ADJACENT TO WHISPER RD AGREE GRE HAWK. WE ARE PRESERVING 103 ACRES OF E DISWB ROUGHLY 54% OF THE PROJECS KATHRYN MENTIONED, IT DOES EMPLE SMART GROWTH PLANNING POLICIES E GREATER INTENSE IF I AND DENSITS CLOSER TO THE SPHWAIT RADIATING OUT==WARD AND REDUCING DENSITY T TRANSITIONS DOWN TO THE SINGLE Y USE. AGAIN, IT LOCATES OUR NON-RESIDL USES, OUR COMMERCIAL USES ACROSE STREET FROM THE OUTLET MALL, WHE COMPATIBLE USES.

IT REALIGNS COUNTY ROAD 208, PRW COUNTY ROAD, REALIGNMENT THAT CY ROAD AND NEW SIGNALIZATION, WHIO IMPROVES ACCESS FOR THE OUTLET . SO IT NOT ONLY IMPROVES OUR SIDE ROAD BUT IT DOES HELP AND ENHANE OUTLET MALL'S A ABILITY TO ACCE ROAD 16 AND AND THEN FINALLY, IG THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND HELPING T SOME OF THAT EXISTING TRAFFIC TN THE COUNTY ROAD 208, STATE ROAD6 INTERSECTION, WE BELIEVE THAT IO GOING TO IMPROVE SOME OF THE CON IN THE OPERATION IN THAT INTERCE AREA.

WITH THAT, I KNOW KATHRYN AND IE COVERED A LOT OF ITEMS, AND THEE TEAM IS HERE AND AVAILABLE TO AY

QUESTIONS OF THE AGENCY, AND WEK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> ALL RIGHT.

MR. CHAIR, MI MAY HAVE, MIKE ROA TECHNICAL UPDATE. GTV IS NOW BACK ONLINE, SO FOR F YOU WATCHING STREAMING AND YOU'T USED TO OR MAYBE THE CONNECTIONT AS GOOD FOR YOU IN THAT FORMAT,

GOVERNMENT TV IS BACK ONLINE. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME QUESTIR YOU. LET'S GO THROUGH THE LIST.

AGAIN, DECLARING ANY ESSEX PAR A AND -- ANY EX PARTE AND QUESTIOR THE APPLICANT.

MR. MATOVINA IS UP FIRST. >> NO EX PARTE, NO QUESTIONS. >> MR. ALAIMO.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T HAVE AO EX PARTE. THE QUESTION IS WITH REGARD REGO THE HOUSING, WILL ANY OF THAT BE WORKFORCE HOUSING OR AFFORDABLEG OR --

>> NO, IT IS NOT ANTICIPATED TOE WORKFORCE HOUSING. IT IS MARKET RATE HOUSING, APARS

AND TOWNHOMES. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> MS. PERKINS. >> NO EX PARTE, NO QUESTIONS. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER HAS NO EX PAT A QUESTION. SO IN YOUR WAIVERS, THE SIGNS, E RESTRICTED THE HEIGHT TO 8 FEETY

1 ACRE PARCEL OR LARGER AND -- H OF THEM IN HEIGHT? >> I BELIEVE SO, BUT LET ME CONM

THAT. >> 8 FEET FOR BOTH OF THEM AND R THAN 1 ACRE IS 75 SQUARE FEET OA

LESS THAN 1 ACRE, 50 SQUARE FEE. >> YES, SIR. I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> THANK YOU. MR. WAINRIGHT. >> NO EX PARTE.

A QUESTION OR TWO. MR. SCHILLING, DID YOU TALK ABOI MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT, BUT DID YK ABOUT THE SIDE, CORNER LOT SIDED SETBACK? DID YOU TALK ABOUT THAT?

>> I MENTIONED IT BUT DID I NOTA SLIDE THAT HAD A SPECIFIC PICTU. LET ME ASK, IS THERE A SPECIFICN

OR -- >> YES. SPECIFICALLY, WHY IS THAT NECES?

>> EXPWITS A AND IT IS A G. TECHNICAL SINCE IT'S A CORNER LS TREATED AS IF IT HAS TWO FRONT S BECAUSE IT HAS TWO PROPERTY LINT ABUT RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND OUR FROND SETBACK IS A MINIMUM OF 15-FOOTK TO THE BUILDING, 20 FEET TO THE, AND SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAE SECONDARY ROAD HAVE A TRADITIONE

RATHER THAN THE 15 OR THE 20 FE. >> FINE. AND DID YOU INQUIRE OF THAT CHUH

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THAT'S -- WHAT -- 500 FEET AWAY? DID THEY HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ABOUT PROXIMITY?

>> I KNOW THAT WHEN I'VE ABOUT T THE SITE, I'VE LOOK TO SEE IF TS ANYONE THERE TO STOP BY, AND TH- THE MOST RECENT TIME THAT I WAST THERE AND THE TIMES BEFORE THATE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY PEOPLE AT THEH

TO TALK TO. >> OUR CLIENT HAS ATTEMPTED TO M TWICE, TWO DIFFERENT OCCASIONS S UNABLE TO REACH THEM AND LEFT AE MAIL. ALSO, THEY ARE ON THE ADJACENT Y OWNER'S LIST SO THEY GOT NOTIFIS OF THE WORKSHOP AND BOTH OF THE HEARINGS.

>> THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS QUI. SCHOOL CONCURRENCY.

WAS THAT AN ISSUE? AND AT THE SAME TIME, TRAFFIC IH IN TERMS OF VOLUMES.

I THINK I UNDERSTOOD THAT. A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRAFFIC. >> IT IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF TR, AND LIKELY WILL HAVE MUCH LESS K TRAFFIC VOLUME. THERE THERE WILL BE MORE PASS, AND IT'S ACTUALLY A REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC. SO IT'S BETTER THAN A WASH.

IT'S ACTUALLY ROUGHLY A 20% RED, YES, SIR. AND THIS -- I'M SORRY.

>> YES, THIS PROJECT WILL GENER8 SCHOOLCHILDREN, IF THAT IS IF NT IS AGE RESTRICTED.

WE HAVE RESERVED CAPACITY OF 439 ELEMENTARY SEATS. WE WILL NEED 23.4 MIDDLE SCHOOL2 HIGH SCHOOL, AND WE HAVE SUBMITE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF A PROPERTE AGREEMENT FOR THE CAPACITY THATL

NEED. >> AND I'M SURE THEY WILL BE WELL-DISCIPLINED CHILDREN.

>> OF COURSE THEY WILL, THEY'RE. >> THANK YOU. >> DR. HILSENBECK.

>> OKAY. I HAVE ABOUT TEN QUESTIONS, SO E BEAR WITH ME.

AND THERE ARE SOME COMMENTS, BUY WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE AS WELL. AND IF I GET CUT OFF ON MY CELL, JUST MOVE ON TO BILL MCCORMICK I WILL CALL BACK IMMEDIATELY. MY FIRST COMMENT IS I SALUTE YOR YOUR VERY WIDE BUFFER BETWEEN YR DEVELOPMENT, PROPOSED DEVELOPMED THE GREY HAWK COMMUNITY OF ABOUT 70 FEET. I THINK THAT'S VERY GOOD. ALSO, THE REMOVAL OF ALL THAT SL HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL THAT YOU'RE TAKING TF THE TABLE.

I THINK THAT IS ALSO GOOD, AND E THAT. MY FIRST REAL QUESTION OR COMME, THOUGH, IS I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOD THAT THERE'S NO WORKFORCE HOUSIG COMPONENT IN THIS PROPOSED DEVE, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE LOCATIONT THERE AT STATE ROAD 16, COUNTY , I-95, ALL OF THAT, THE OUTLET ME MALL IS THERE AND ALL THAT RETAD COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON STATE. THAT WOULD HAVE HELPED ME SEE TE FAVORABLY. MY SECOND -- AND MR. ALAIMO AND MR. WAINRIGHT BOTH BROUGHT THAT.

MY SECOND MAIN POINT IS WHO ACTS PROPOSED -- IT WASN'T CLEAR TO - MOVING COUNTY ROAD 208.

IT WAS IT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION? WAS IT THE COUNTY? WAS IT YA'LL FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT? SO I'D LIKE YOU TO ADDRESS THAT.

AND THEN I KNOW THE EXPENSE, THA FORMULA FOR THAT WITH CURRENCY O IS GOING TO PAY WHAT, BUT I JUST WONDERED IF THERE WAS AN ESTIMAW MUCH THAT MOVE, MOVING COUNTY R8 IS GOING TO COST OVERALL BECAUSL TELL YOU, I HAVE NO EX PARTE. I SHOULD HAVE DECLARED THAT INI, BUT I HAVE NO EX PARTE WITH THIT I'VE DRIVEN BY THIS LOCATION PR0 TIMES, AND THIS INTERSECTION ORS OF INTERSECTIONS HAS SOME OF THT TRAFFIC IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOWF I LIVED IN GREY HAWK OR WHISPERI WOULD BE EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABT EVEN WITH MOVING COUNTY ROAD 20D THAT MAIN -- I'M CONCERNED WEREG PROPOSING YOUR COMMERCIAL AND RL RIGHT ALONG STRAIGHT ROAD 16, TT COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL RIGHT THES GOING TO NEGATE ANY TRAFFIC RELT YOU'RE GOING TO REALIZE FROM MOE COUNTY ROAD 208 AND STATE ROAD 6 FURTHER WEST AS WHAT YOU CALL AH LEG OF THAT INTERSECTION. BUT IT'S REALLY BAD TRAFFIC OUT. AND PUTTING 750 NEW HOMES OUT T,

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EVEN GETTING RID OF SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL, I SHE THAT AS A HUG. I WANTED TO KNOW IN TERMS OF THE CONCURRENCY APPLICATIONS, I KNOE ALLIED FOR THAT. YOU STATED THAT, FOR THE FAIR SD TRANSPORTATION AND SCHOOLS WITH8 STUDENTS, BUT I WAS CURIOUS ABOE CONCURRENCY APPLICATION AND CONY CERTIFICATE THAT WOULD BE ISSUES THAT ALSO COVER WATER AND SEWER? AND THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT,S MY SPECIFIC QUESTION, IS THERE'A LETTER IN THE APPLICATION TO ELE BROWN OF COUPLELEY HORN FROM ALN FLOOD, THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY DOCT DIRECTOR OR ENGINEER, IT'S STATD JULY 15 OF 2020, IT STATES THAT== -- LET ME SEE IF I CAN RT I WROTE DOWN HERE -- THE WATER R CONVEYANCES ARE ABSOLUTELY -- TE NOT ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEED UNTILE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ISSUED A CONCURRENCY CERTIFICATE.

SO I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT SIY CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT. IT LETTERS FURTHER STATES IN THO FURTHER STATES IN THE LETTER, "E AVAILABILITY OF CAPACITY, FOR WD SEWER, WILL EXPIRE 90 DAYS FROME OF THIS LETTER." AND THAT IS ON OCTOBER 13TH OF . UNLESS A CONCURRENCY CERTIFICATS ISSUED. SO THAT APPARENTLY, THE LETTER S IN THE OPENCATION FROM ALLEN FL- APPLICATION FROM ALLEN FLOOD, TS ALREADY EXPIRED IF YOU DON'T HAA CONCURRENCY CAN CERTIFICATE ISS.

THAT IS A CONCERN TO ME. NEXT POINT, ISSUING A ALCOHOLICE WAIVER WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT BUSS WILL BE ON THOSE CORNERS WITHOUN EXISTING RESTAURANT OR RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT, JUST GIVING A BLT ALCOHOL PERMIT AS OPPOSED TO LEY AN ITEM WE HAD EARLIER TODAY, AN EXISTING RESTAURANT AMICI'S CHAG OWNERSHIP, THAT CONCERNS ME. MY NEXT QUESTION CONCERNS SOILSI HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MAKE REALLY HEADWAY WITH MY FELLOW PZA BOARS ON THIS, BUT SOILS ARE A REAL CN FOR ME.

YOU LIST SIX DIFFERENT SOIL TYPI DID LIKE THE ECOLOGICAL REPORT M ATLANTIC.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS WELL DONE. BUT YOU LIST SIX DIFFERENT TYPEF SOILS.

AND MOST OF THOSE, VIRTUALLY ALM ARE VERY POORLY OR POORLY DRAIN, AND THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THAT CENL WETLAND AREA. VIRTUALLY ALL OF THOSE ARE VERYY OR POORLY DRAINED THAT HAVE STA, AND THIS IS IN THE USDA SOIL CONSERVATION SERVICE MANUAL, TH, EVEN THOUGH YA'LL STATE IN YOUR APPLICATION IT SAYS THAT YOU FEE SOILS ARE SUITABLE FOR THE PROPD DEVELOPMENT, THAT THOSE ARE VERT SOILS OUT THERE, AND THE ONLY OT REALLY CITES COMMUNITY DEVELOPMA USE OF THE PROPERTY, MOST OF THE RANGELAND, FORESTLAND, PASTURELE LIMITED CROPS, ONLY ONE, AND THE POTSBURG FINE SAND, STATES TIMBR PRODUCTION AND COMMUNITY DEVELO, BUT THAT POTSBURG FINE SAND IS Y ABOUT, IN MY ESTIMATION, JUST EE BALLING IT, 8 TO 10% OF THE SIT. THE REST OF THE SITE EVEN OUTSIE CENTRAL WETLAND AND WITH THE WET FLATWOODS HABITAT, HYDRO PINE FS THAT AR NOTED IN THE ECOLOGICAL, ALL OF THOSE ARE NOT -- REPORT,F THOSE ARE NOT COMMUNITY DEVELOPT TYPES. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A LOT OF FIG TO BE BROUGHT INTO THE PROPERTY ALL OF THAT ELEVATING AROUND THT CENTRAL WETLAND.

WET INDEPENDENCE MY ECOLOGICAL EXPERIENCE, JUST DO NOT EXIST IN ISOLATION FOR VERY LONG IF THEYE COMPLETELY SURROUNDED WITH DEVE. AND THEY'RE NOT MANAGED PROPERLD THEY DON'T HAVE PROPER INFLOWS S OR OUTPUTS. THEY DON'T LAST LONG. SO A NEXT COMMENT I HAVE AND THS ABOUT THE WETLANDS AND YOU DID N AT THE VERY BEGINNING THAT YOU E DOUBLE COUNTING SOME THINGS,

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PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO WET. IT STATES IN THE APPLICATION ATE POINT THAT YOU'LL CON IS I HAVE 5.5 ACRES OF THE -- COULD COS OF THE WETLANDS. LATER ON ON PAGE 41 AND 51 OF TE APPLICATION IT SHOWS INSTEAD OF 90.5 ACRES BEING CONSERVED, THAE 5.5 BEING DEVELOPED, INSTEAD OFT STATES 85 ACRES WILL BE CONSERVO THAT'S ANOTHER 5 ACRES OR 5.5 AF WETLANDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE D, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. LET'S SEE IF I HAD ANY OTHER CO.

THOSE EVER MY MAIN COMMENTS, I . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR RESP. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

LET ME -- I THINK I'LL START, K, AND THEN ANYTHING I MISS. SO THE FIRST COMMENT ON COUNTY , REGARDING 208, THE CONCEPT OF RG 208 DATES BACK TO THE ORIGINAL D I KNOW THAT IN THE ORIGINAL PUD APPROVAL, THAT REALIGNMENT WAS D WE BASICALLY KEPT THAT REALIGNM. I DON'T KNOW FOR CERTAIN BUT FRY MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH SI BELIEVE THAT THAT IS SOMETHING S ORIGINALLY GENERATED AND REQUESY THE COUNTY SINCE IT IS A COUNTYD RATHER THAN BEING ACTUALLY INITY REQUESTED BY THE DOT.

I KNOW TWHEEFD WE HAVE HE DOT AND THE DOT FROM OUR PRE-APN MEETING DOES SUPPORT THE REALIGF 208. I BELIEVE THAT THE ORIGINAL REQT DPRAIMENT COUNTY BUT IT IS, TO Y

UNDERSTANDING, ALSO SUPPORTED WE DOT. >> ALSO, I THINK JAN GRANTHAM, R OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT IS HERE IFD A BETTER ANSWER TO THAT. IS JAN STILL HERE? DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT QUE? THE QUESTION IS WHERE COUNTY RO8 CAME FROM, THE REALIGNMENT.

>> I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE IF IT WT COUNTY REQUEST OR IF IT WAS ORIY PROPOSED BY THE DEVELOPER AND SD BY THE COUNTY. IT IS SEEN BY US AS A POSITIVE O HELP ALLEVIATE THE CONGESTION A8 STATE ROAD 16 INTERSECTION THATR TO THE INTERCHANGE. AND IT IS SUPPORTED BY D HAVE T.

SO WE'RE -- DOT SO WE'RE ALL WOG TOGETHER TO IMPROVE THE TRAFFICC OPERATIONS IN ITS AREA.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, JAN. TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND TE LOCATION OF THE COMMERCIAL UP FG STATE ROAD 16, IN OUR OPINION SD 16 IS THE HIGHEST OF THE FUNCTIY CLASSED ROADWAYS IN THIS AREA, S THE MOST SUITED TO CARRYING THEY TRAFFIC AND CERTAINLY WHERE RETS DOAFL FACING STATE ROAD 16 -- DP FACING STATE ROAD 16. AGAIN IT IS OUR BELIEF JUST ON E CALCULATIONS HA WE HAVE DONE THS PROPOSAL OVERALL DOES REDUCE THC FROM THOSE USES THAT WERE PREVIY CONSIDERED. AND AGAIN, AND SIMILAR AS MS. TM STATED, IT IS ALSO OUR BELIEF TT MOVING THIS TRAFFIC AND GETTINGA SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION TO GET D OFF OF 208 WILL ACTUALLY HELP WT CONGESTION DOWN IN THE INTERCHA. REGARDING THE -- ALSO, AND I MED IT BEFORE, ALSO GETTING RID OF E INDUSTRIAL USE AND HAVING MUCH S HEAVY TRAFFIC, HAVING THE HEAVYC ESPECIALLY SEMI TRASHING TRAILEG THROUGH THOSE SIGNALIZED INTERSS AT THE VATE INTERSTATE, THEY HAR START-UP TIMES ONCE THE SIGNALSN GREEN. SO WE THINK, AGAIN, GETTING RIDE INDUSTRIAL USE AND MORE OF THE Y TRAFFIC WILL IMPROVE THE POTENTR THAT ADDITIONAL CONGESTION FROME HEAVY TRAFFIC.

THE QUESTION ON THE WATER AND SR LETTER, AND THAT'S A GOOD OBSER, AND I THINK A QUIRKY THING WITHE COUNTY IS THE WATER AND SEWER LS THAT GET ISSUED BY THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT ARE ONLY GOOD FOR 90.

GOING THROUGH THE CONCURRENCY RW PROCESS TAKES GENERALLY SIGNIFIY LONGER THAN 90 DAYS, AND WE DO Y FIND OURSELVES REQUESTING MULTIR AND SEWER LETTERS AS WE WORK THE PROCESS.

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AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN WORKIH COUNTY STAFF IN THE UTILITY DEP. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE WAD SEWER SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABE VICINITY OF THIS PROJECT. CERTAINLY THAT IS BEING DOCUMENA PART OF THE CONCURRENCY REVIEW L BE PART OF THE CONCURRENCY CERT. HOWEVER, I WILL SAY THAT WE ALSW THAT REUSE, REUSE WATER IS NOT S AREA AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THY DEPARTMENT STAFF RIGHT NOW ON NEGOTIATING A REUSE TILITY LINE EXTENSION TO THIS PROJECT AND FY ANTICIPATE THAT THIS PROJECT WIE ADVANTAGE OF THE COUNTY'S REUSER THAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE AREA. SO I WANTED TO STATE THAT AS WE.

AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, WE DEFINITELY WILL BE, PRIOR TO THE CONCURRENCY CERTIFICATE BEING IE WILL REQUEST A NEW, AND I ANTICD BEEN ISSUED A NEW WATER AND SEWR LETTER.

AS FAR AS THE ALCOHOL PERMIT GOR THIS WAIVER, ESSENTIALLY THE WAS TO DO WITH PACKAGE SALES AND NOT NECESSARILY -- KATHRYN, I MAY GO TROUBLE HERE AND NEED YOUR HELPY UNDERSTANDING IS IT DOES NOT APO THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGESD QUALIFIED RESTAURANTS THAT MEETN REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS FOOD SALS BEER, WINE OR ALCOHOL SALES. THIS IS A WAIVER FOR A POTENTIAR STORE THAT WOULD BE PACKAGE SALD AGAIN, OUR ANTICIPATION IS THE T THAT THAT COULD BE WOULD BE ON T WOULD BE NO CLOSER THAN 500 FEET RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION. I'LL HIT SOILS. I WOULD SAY THAT BASED ON OUR RF THE SOILS, THE SOILS ARE VERY TF WHAT WE FIND IN ST. JOHNS COUNTD NORTHEAST FLORIDA.

CERTAINLY BEING IN AN AREA THATS WETLANDS, SOME OF THE SOILS WITA DOUBT ARE POORLY DRAINED.

AND AS WE WORK THROUGH THE PROCE DO HAVE A GEOTECHNICAL CONSULTAR TEAM.

IF THERE ARE SOILS THAT NEED TOE EXCAVATED AND REPLACED BECAUSE E UNSUITABLE, CERTAINLY WE WILL BG THAT. IF THERE ARE ANY STABILIZATION S WE NEED TO TAKE BECAUSE OF UNSUE SOILS, WE WILL BE TAKING THAT. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE QUALID EXPERTS ON OUR TEAM TO HANDLE T.

ON THE WETLANDS, AND I KNOW THIS REFERENCE TO THAT, I THINK RIGH, RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT A PRESERVEDS NUMBER OF 79.4 ACRES, WHICH I TS GONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT, AND I DT BELIEVE IT'S GONE DOWN, AND I MD BRYAN TO NOD HIS HEAD, BUT I THK THAT'S GONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT BE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT HAN WORKING WITH THE REVIEW AGENCIED SOME OF THOSE LANDS THAT IN THEL PUD WERE CLASSIFIED AS WETLANDSE GOTT GONE BACK AND RE-LOOKED ATF THOSE LANDS AND SOME OF THOSE LE NOT NECESSARILY CLASSIFIED AS W.

I'M HOPING I'M STATING THAT COR. I'M GETTING HEAD NODS YESSO THAE 79.4 ACRES THAT ARE NOW BEING P, ISN'T NECESSARILY BECAUSE WE'RE IMPACTING MORE. IT'S JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE DETER, AND T WORKING WITH THE AGENCIESE DETERMINED THAT THERE ARE JUST T WETLANDS ON THE SITE.

THAT WAS EVERYTHING I JOTTED DO. >> I THINK YOU MAY HAVE HAD A QN ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL NON-RESIDEL USES, HIGHER INTENSITY ON STATE, AND I WOULD JUST ADD THAT THE CY DESIGNATED THIS ENTIRE PROPERTYR MIXED USE, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST INTENSITY LAND USE CATEGORY IN E ONTARIO SO WE FIND IT APPROPRIAT IT WOULD BE LOCATED THERE ALONGE ROAD 16, WHICH IS A MAJOR ARTER. AND I THINK WE HIT IT ALL.

>> OKAY. >> I THINK YOU ADDRESSED MOST OY QUESTIONS.

LET ME JUST ASK THIS. WITH THE PACKAGE STORE OF ALCOHC BEVERAGES, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A STATEMENT IN THE APPLICATION THR PROJECT WOULDN'T BE ECONOMICALL- ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PERMIT. I THINK THAT MUST BE AN OVERSTAF THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.

THE WETLANDS, YOU STATED IN THE APPLICATION 90.5 ACRES WERE GOIE CONSERVED.

NOW YOU SAID MAYBE 79. I UNDER YOUR EXPLANATION THAT YE DETERMINED THERE PERHAPS AREN'TY

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WETLANDS OUT THERE. BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSN 1996, OR PERMITTED, I SHOULD SAT WAS TEN YEARS BEFORE THE EVALUAN STARTED IN 2006, AND A WHILE BET REALLY KICKED IN. I JUST AM CURIOUS AS TO WHY, IFN ANSWER THIS QUESTION, FOR TEN YR MORE NO DEVELOPMENT OCCURRED THT ALL. I UNDERSTAND THE GREAT RECESSION STOPPING A DEVELOPMENT, BUT NOTN YEARS OF BOOMING ECONOMIC TIMESO PERHAPS YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT.

BUT OTHERWISE I THINK YOU'VE ADD MY QUESTIONS. OH, AND CONCERNING THE WETLANDSS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT A LOT OF FG BROUGHT IN, NOT SOILS BEING EXCR TAKEN OUT OR MEDIATED IN SOME WT FILL BEING BROUGHT IN WHICH WOUL MANY, MANY DUMP TRUCKS BRINGING, SO THAT WOULD NEGATE SOME OF THT TRAFFIC YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT T WOULDN'T BE THERE. THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THERE FOA COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THIS IS FOA TEN-YEAR PERMIT, SO YOU COULD HE TRUCKS COMING INTO THAT PROPERTN YEARS BRINGING FILL POTENTIALLY. SO THAT WAS A CONCERN OF MINE. BUT I WILL STOP TALKING AT THIS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPY TO ASK QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> I WOULD VENTURE -- I DON'T KA FACT WHY IT DIDN'T DEVELOP OUT N IT DID, BUT I WOULD VENTURE A GI GUESS. FIRST OF ALL 1 IT COULD BE THE F THE COUNTY ROAD 208 REALIGNMENT.

THAT PROJECT WAS NOT GOING TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT IT. SECOND, IT HAD 670,000 SQUARE FF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THAT IS OI A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL S AREA OF THE COUNTY.

AND IT WASN'T VIABLE. FEASIBLE. IT'S JUST MY OPINION.

I DON'T KNOW FOR A FACT>> KATHRT COMMENT ON THE FILL BECAUSE I TK THERE WAS A GOOD QUESTION THERE.

IF YOU CAN CLICK US TO THOSE SIN SLIDES. IN RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION ABOE FILL IS YOU'RE CORRECT, THIS SIS GOING TO NEED FILL. THERE ARE PARTS OF THE SITE THAE LOW. BUT LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, CY ONE OF OUR STRATEGIES TO MINIMIE BRINGING INN. FILL FROM OFF-SITH IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVEN USING FILL ON-SITE, AGAIN, PARTE STRATEGY IN CREATING OUR REALLYE POND ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARYO PULL AS MUCH FILL OUT OF THAT PS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN KEEP OUK TRAFFIC ON-SITE AND FILL WHAT WD FROM ON-SITE RATHER THAN HAVINGL IT OFF-SITE. AT THIS POINT I DON'T KNOW THATE FAR ENOUGH ALONG IN DESIGN TO UD IF THAT -- THE POND AREAS ARE EO SATISFY ALL OF OUR FILL NEEDS. THERE STILL MAY BE SOME FILL THS FROM OFF-SITE, BUT HOPEFULLY I N ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS E ARE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO GETH

OF THE FILL ON OUR SITE AND KEEN OUR SITE AS POSSIBLE. >> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, DR. MCCORMI, QUESTIONS AND EX PARTE TO DECLA.

>> WELL, THANK YOU. NO EX PARTE. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S DR. MCCO.

RIGHT. SO WHEN RICHARD SAID THAT HE WAD THAT HIS PHONE MIGHT GO DEAD ONI WAS SITTING THERE SAYING, OH, G, DON'T, DON'T, DON'T, BUT HE RAIT OF GOOD POINTS.

I REALLY DO THINK THAT. AND I'M GLAD THAT HE WAS ABLE TO THAT.

IT GAVE ME SOMETHING TO THINK AD I'M STILL THINKING ABOUT HOW I'G TO VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUI THINK IT'S A VERY AMBITIOUS PROI THINK IT'S A VERY WORTHWHILE PR, AND SO WE WILL SEE HOW THINGS GT

COMES TO A VOTE. THAT'S IT FOR ME. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO YOU WILL. COMMENTS UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE AG ELSE.

PUBLIC COMMENTS. >> FOUR SPEAKER CARDS. CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE AND COME.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. MR. IS IT T.J. BERRY? >> YES, BURRY.

122 GREY HAWK. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT THERE FIVE, THE FIRST THING WAS IS WHEN I BE HOUSE THEY TOLD ME THAT WAS DEDD LAND BACK THERE, WHICH I'M SURET YOUR CONCERN, BUT MY CONCERN ISE WETLANDS. THERE'S 99 WETLANDS. THE BUILDER SAID THEY'RE GOING O ENLARGE THAT POND AND TAKE THE . WELL, THEY'RE GOING TO DESTROY E WETLAND WHILE THEY'RE TAKING THL

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OUT. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PUT BIG HEAY EQUIPMENT BACK THERE AND MOVE EH WITHOUT JUST GOING EVERYWHERE. YOU ALL KNOW THAT. I WAS INVOLVED WITH THE PHONE CL PREVIOUSLY, AND WE TALKED ABOUT, AND THEY HAVE A STUDY WHERE THEY LIKE ONE CAR PER HOUSEHOLD, WHIL KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE TODAY. MAYBE BACK IN THE DAY IT WAS. BUT I'M LOOKING AT PROBABLY SOME AROUND 6500 CARS. IF YOU TAKE THAT NUMBER OF PEOPT ARE GOING TO LIVE THERE PERMANEE RENTALS, I THINK THERE'S GOING A LOT MORE CARS THERE, A LOT OF ME TRAFFIC.

I WAS WONDERING WHEN THE REALIGF 208 WAS. IF THAT WAS SOMEWHERE IN '96, HE ARE IN 2020, WE HAVE WIN WARD R. THAT PROBABLY HAS OVER 1,000 HOS THERE.

WE HAVE TOLL BROTHERS UP THE ROD PUTTING IN QUITE A FEW HOMES TH. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 16 THERE'SW SUBDIVISIONS THERE THAT ARE BUIR '96. THE IMPACT OF TRAFFIC THERE IS O BE CRAZY. THEY TALK ABOUT COMMERCIAL VEHI. THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES WILL CUH THAT SUBDIVISION. THAT'S THE SHORTCUT. THEY'LL JUST CUT THROUGH THERE O WEST ON 208. THEY TALK ABOUT THE WETLANDS. IF YOU FOLKS WOULD DRIVE BY THES AFTERNOON, THERE IS ANKLE DEEP E DEEP BUT CALF DEEP CAWRT SPANNI8 AND THERE ARE SIGNS THERE THAT E ROAD IS FLOODED AHEAD. THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR MONTHS. WE GET THESE HEAVY RAINS AND THN AND ALL THAT STUFF, THE HIGH TII THINK IT'S A BAD PROJECT. WE HAVE 12 MOTELS IN A ONE SQUAE TWHRB 12 MILE, 12. THEY'RE FIGHTING FOR CAPACITY.

TO PUT MORE HOTELS THERE IS GOIO DRIVE BUSINESS OUT OF TOWN. I HOPE YOU WILL NOT VOTE FOR THS

PROJECT. >> THANK YOU, SIR. IF NEXT SPEAKERS, MS. VICKI BUR.

MA'AM, IF YOU WILL GIVE US YOUR, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> OKAY.

I WON'T TAKE THAT LONG. MY ADDRESS IS 122 GREY HAWK DRI. I LIVE IN GREY HAWK ESTATES.

MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORS ARE VERY D ABOUT THIS. FORTUNATELY, WHEN YOU HAVE TO HE MEETINGS, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE A. UNFORTUNATELY. BUT WE ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNED E WETLANDS, THE BARRIERS, THE IMPN TRAFFIC. 16 AND 208 AT TOMS ROAD IS A COE MESS CONSTANTLY. YOU HAVE 16, YOU HAVE WAWA, CHIA BEING BUILT THERE NOW, YOU HAVEE OUTLET MALL, YOU HAVE MORE HOMEG BUILT FURTHER UP. THE AMOUNT OF BUSINESS COMING H6 ADVICE THE TRAFFIC AND ROADS, IT A MESS. IT'S A TOTAL MESS.

AND THIS BACKS RIGHT UP TO US AW OTHER DEVELOPMENTS. SO IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THATE IN FAVOR WITH AT ALL, ESPECIALLH AMOUNT OF THE HOMES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT IN THERE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. MR. REMAINED RAYMOND SANDE.

IF YOU WILL GIVE US YOUR ADDRESR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE TE MINUTES.

>> MY NAME IS RAYMOND SAND PERPT 33 HARRIS HAWK COURT. WE'RE A NEW RESIDENT TO THE ARE.

I JUST MOVED HERE A FEW MONTHS . I WAS UNDER THE SAME ASSUMPTIONT THAT AREA WAS PRESERVED AND IT E BUILT ON. NOW I FOUND OUT A COUPLE WEEKS E MOVED IN THAT THAT'S NOT THE CA.

IT'S VERY UPSETTING, HURTS ME PY AND MY WIFE. FOR ME THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOINE AN ISSUE, HAVING THE DUST AND TE DIRT AND OTHER THINGS FOR THIS E HEALTH-WISE.

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I'M A DOUBLE-DOUBLE LUNG TRANSPT RECIPIENT. MY CONCERN WITH THE DUST, DIRT,D THINGS MAKE AIR YATE INTO OUR A. LET ALONE THE TRAFFIC THAT'S TH. IF E THEY EVEN JUST MOVE THAT AT BACKS UP TO US FARTHER UP, I GUS A COMPROMISE. OTHER THAN THAT, YEAH, I'M JUSTT HAPPY WITH THIS WHOLE THING GOI. THE TRAFFIC. I MOVED HERE TO SPEND MY GOLDEN, AND THESE GOLDEN YEARS AIN'T GOA HAPPEN TOO WELL WITH THIS, AND T REALLY HAVE MUCH MORE TO SAY.

I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT THS HAVE SAID. THEY ARE NEIGHBORS OF OURS, ANDF THE PEOPLE IN THIS WHOLE AREA AE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BUILDING G. IT NEEDS TO SLOW DOWN.

IT NEEDS TO STOP. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

MR. JOHN GLENN. >> NO RELATION. >> WE DON'T EXPECT TO SEE YOU B.

[LAUGHTER] >> WOULD YOU TELL US YOUR ADDRE. >> ABSOLUTELY.

NAME, JOHN GLENN, ADDRESS 32 HAK COURT, ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. >> YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

>> SO LET ME JUST START. I HAVE, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL ISSUEE THAT COULD BE MAJOR ISSUES.

BUT LET'S TALK FIRST ABOUT THE . IT'S VERY OBVIOUS. IT'S VERY APPARENT TO MIN THAT N 208 HOW -- ANYONE THAT GOES DOWW IT'S NOT GOOD DRAINAGE THERE AT. SENATE OF 1 JUST A FEW WEEKS AGE WAS ACTUALLY SO MANY OF FLOODINT YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH A HUGE PUO GET INTO OUR GREY HAWK DEVELOPMT THERE, AND AS THE ONE GENTLEMAN, T.J., THEY HAVE SIGNS POSTED THE ROAD WAS FLOODED.

SO I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT THAT'S O DO IF THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARH THE DRAINAGE.

IT'S A SERIOUS ISSUE IN THAT AR. AND AS THE GENTLEMAN SAID BEFORE PHONE, SIX DIFFERENT SOILS AND T GOOD DRAINAGE, I CAN VERY -- VEY SEE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A MR PROBLEM.

SO THAT'S FIRST. I'M GOING TO MOVE ON BECAUSE I A FEW ISSUES HERE.

AND LET ME JUST, BEFORE I DO MO, AND IF IT DOES MOVE FORWARD ANDA PROBLEM, IS THERE SOME KIND OF N PLACE THAT IF IT DOES BECOME AN, THAT THEY HAVE THE -- THAT THEYG TO GET THIS RESOLVED SOMEHOW BEE BEING IN THE GREY HAWK DEVELOPM, WE'RE RIGHT THERE, RIGHT UP AGA. RIGHT? SO IF THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWART DOES TURN OUT TO BE A PROBLEM WE DRAINAGE, IS THERE A PLAN B THAY HAVE THAT, OKAY, HEY, LOOK, IF S BECOME MORE OF AN ISSUE, WE'RE O BE ABLE TO DO THIS TO DIVERT THR ELSEWHERE OR WHATEVER. SO THAT'S A BIG ISSUE. THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS HERE E PARK THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OT THERE'S A -- IT'S A RV PARK.

PEOPLE COME FROM OUT OF TOWN. THEY VISIT ST. AUGUSTINE. THEY WANT TO BE -- THEY WANT TON THE WILDERNESS. THEY WANT TO BE IN A NICE ENVIR. I DON'T SEE THOSE PEOPLE WANTINO STARE AT MULTI-HOME COMPLEXION T ACROSS THE STREET. -- COMPLEXES RIGHT ACROSS THE S.

SO THAT'S AN ISSUE. THE TRAFFIC ISSUE HAS COME UP SL TIMES, AND I'M GLAD IT HAS.

IT REALLY IS BEYOND ME. THEY SAID THE TRAFFIC IS GOING E REDUCED BE TRUCK TRAFFIC IS GOIE REDUCED. I DON'T KNOW HOW PUBT THEM UNITS GOING TO REDUCE TRAFFIC.

THAT'S JUST -- IT KIND OF DOESNE ANY SENSE AT ALL. WITH THIS MANY UNITS THAT ARE GO HERE, THAT'S ONLY GOING TO INCRE TRAFFIC. AND AS WE KNOW ALREADY, THAT'S D 208, IT'S MAJOR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ALREADY. AND I ONLY SEE THAT BEING, YOU , MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC. I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME AND I HT EVEN GONE THROUGH HALF OF MY IS.

SO THAT'S A MAJOR ISSUE. THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE NEIGHB. >> YOU'RE RIGHT, YOUR TIME IS U.

>> IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO TD THIS? >> SUMMARIZE QUICKLY.

>> SUMMARIZE VERY QUICKLY. THE DISTANCE 70 FEET SEPARATINGA DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S NOT VERY MUH DISTANCE AT ALL. WHEN YOU'RE LIVING IN A DEVELOPD YOU'RE 70 FEET AWAY FROM ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY ON TOWN. THEY'RE TWO STORY OR HIGHER SO E GOING TO HAVE THAT, WE'RE GOINGE

THOSE. >> SUMMARY. SUMMARY.

>> SO THAT'S A CONCERN. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> PROPERTY VALUES.

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THE BUSINESSES. WHAT BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO GO- >> SIR, I THINK WE GOT THAT.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPECTING. >> JUST IN CONCLUSION IS I PERSY BELIEVE I DON'T THINK THERE WASH PLANNING WITH THIS PROJECT TO RY TAKE EVERYTHING INTO CONSIDERAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I DOK THEY'VE CONSIDERED, NOT TO MENTE

FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE PUBLIC SPEAS HERE?

>> NO, SIR. >> DO WE HAVE ANY ONLINE? >> ONE.

HELLO THERE. CAN YOU HEAR US? >> YES, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT. YOU ARE ON. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRR

THE RECORD, AND WE'LL GIVE YOU E MINUTES. >> SOMEONE ELSE IS TALKING THOU.

>> YOU ARE TALKING NOW. IF YOU COULD TURN DOWN YOUR SPE. YOU ARE ON LIVE>> SO MY NAME ISU WILLINGER 135 GREY HAWK DRIVE. AND I HAVE MANY CONCERNS. SO WE MET GREY HAWK HAD DISCUSSH THE DEVELOPERS, AND NONE OF OUR CONSIDERATIONS WERE HEARD. SOME OF THOSE WERE REGARDING THE ACTUALLY 208 OF '16 INTERSECTIO. THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM FOR TRAFFIC.

THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD A STUDY BE. MAYBE THAT WAS 54 YEARS HAG OR S DURING COVID BUT TWHRAIS TRAFFIY LAST WEEK SO I'LL BE CURIOUS TOW THAT WORKS OUT. YOU TALKED ABOUT RERIGHTING.

HAVE TO DPLAI EMERGENCY VEHICLEM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

ANY OTHER TYPE OF THINGS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 750 HOMES BG ADDED IN THERE WHICH WASN'T MEAD WHEN WE HAD AN DISCUSSION BEFORS AN INCREASE OF 1,500 CARS AND IE EMERGENCY SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPO HAVE EAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THATO BE CONSIDERED ALONG WITH THOSE R HOUSES ACROSS 95 WHEN THEY'RE AG TO EVACUATE. WE'RE LINING AT VEGETATION. IT'S TAKEN FIVE YEARS SINCE THE DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN PUT UP TO T ESTROGENTATION WHERE IT'S AT NO. NOW YOU'RE GOING TO DESTROY THOE WETLANDS AND BRING IN THOSE SOI. THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM THS GOING TO DESTROY THE VEGETATION.

WHEN YOU'RE BUILDINGS UP THESE , WE'RE HAVING HOME ISSUES NOW WIE DRAINAGE.

THOSE NEW HOMEOWNERS ARE GOING E PROBLEMS WITH THAT. YOU'RE INCREASING THE SCHOOL, HY DIRDZ GOING TO KIDS ARE GOING TO BE GOING TO S. WEED AND FOR A HIGHER BUFFER.

THAT'S BEEN THROWN OFF TO THE S. WIN IT DOWN WHAT WE ASKED FOR JE THE PRSM, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO HE 99 ACRES. IT'S GOWN TO 85 ACRES. RIGHT NOW I'M ALREADY SEEING SOE CONCERNS WITH WHAT THEY'RE WILLO WORK WITH. AGAIN, 24 YEARS AND NOW WE'RE JT MOVING FORWARD. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT TH. CONCERNS ABOUT THE WETLAND.

THE REROUTING OF THE TRAFFIC. IT'S GOING TO MAKE TRAFFIC BAD. WHEN YOU'RE COMING ALREADY FROMO TO 208 YOU'RE AVOIDING THE MESSE OUTLETS. NOW WE'RE GOING TO FORCE YOU TWO OUTLETS. THAT IS BAD. IT CAN TAKE 25 MINUTES JUST TO E FROM ST. AUGUSTINE OVER ON 207. NOW YOU'RE ADDING IN ALL THESE R CARS, 1500 CARS, THE COMMERCIALC IT'S GOING TO BRING IN. THIS IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM AND IK THE COUNTY REALLY NEEDS TO TAKEK AT IT, PARTIALLY THE DRAINAGE OF IT WITH THE WETLAND BECAUSE THES ARE FLOODED AND WE'VE BEEN COMPG ABOUT THIS FOR A YEAR ASK WE'RET GETTING ANYWHERE. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEH THE COUNTY IF THESE GUYS ROLL O. A PROBLEM FOR THE HOMEOWNERS CU, THE NEW HOMEOWNERS.

>> SIR, IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEAN TO SUMMARIZE. >> YES, SIR.

SO AGAIN, WE E.R. REROUTING 208A CONCERN. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WET LAND LAND DEVELOPMENT BEING A CONCER. YOU SAID THE NEW JOBS AFTER THAT YEAR IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 350.

IT WILL BE HALF THAT OF. WE'RE PUTTING ALL THESE PROBLEMD NOTHING THAT IS REALLY BEEN TRUY

DECIDED ON APPROPRIATELY. SO THAT'S IT. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC SPES

ONLINE? >> THERE IS NONE LISTED. >> NO FURTHER COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN, IS CLOSEDF THE APPLICANT COULD STEP FORWARD ADDRESS WHAT YOU'D WISH THERE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. HIGHLIGHT JUST A COUPLE OF THE D TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR BECAUSEI REALIZE THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE BER BEFORE.

SO JUST GOING THROUGH A COUPLE E COMMENTS, ONE IS SO THE POND AR, THIS IS ACTUALLY IS UPLAND TODA.

SO NONE OF THIS POND AREA IS WE. AND SO WE WILL BE COMPLYING WITF THE ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS RD BY THE ST. JOHNS RIVER WATER MAT DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY WHEN ITO BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES IN EXG THIS POND. AND AGAIN, EXCAVATING THIS PONDS POND ITSELF DOES NOT -- THIS ARS

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FOOTPRINT DOES NOT IMPACT WETLA. THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF ONE CARR HOUSEHOLD, I THINK REFERENCE FRE STUDY, AND I JUST WANTED TO CONT THAT'S BECAUSE THE COUNTY'S CRIR STUDYING TRAFFIC IS BASED ON PE, SO THAT'S BASED ON A TRIP ROUGHR HOUSEHOLD IN THE PEAK HOUR FOR A TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOME R MULTI-FAMILY, WHICH THIS IS, ITS ACTUALLY A LITTLE LESS THAN A TR HOUSEHOLD, SO I WANTED TO VER NT THAT WAS PEAK OUR. VERIFY THAT THAT WAS PEAK HOUR. I DID ALSO WANT TO -- I KNOW THE EVER BEEN SEVERAL COMMENTS WITH. AGAIN, THIS NEW SECTION OF 208 G TO BE CONSTRUCTED TO TODAY'S COY STANDARDS AS A MAJOR COLLECTOR. I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME CONS RAISED AND I DON'T KNOW IF THATS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE STAFF CAN . AGAIN, THE EXISTING 208 WAS NOTD NECESSARILY TO TODAY'S STANDARDD WE'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE N POTENTIALLY SOME FLOODING ISSUEN OLD 208.

I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT NEW 208 DD TO TODAY'S STANDARDS WILL NOT HE SAME ISSUES.

I WOULD ALSO SAY FROM AN ENVIROL PERMITTING AND A DRAINAGE PERMIG STANDPOINT, WE RECOGNIZED THAT L HAVE TO COMPLY WITH WATER MANAGT DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS, RESTRICTR COAST DEVELOPMENT FLOWS AND STOR FLOWS TO TODAY, OUR PRE-DEVELOPT FLOWS. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I T CROW KNOW WAS KNOW WAS ENTE REALIGNMENT OF 208 AS YOU COUNTD TO STATE ROAD 16, THERE IS NO SO CLOSE THE OLD COUNTY ROAD 208 SE WILL NOW HAVE TWO OPTIONS OF HOT TO STATE ROAD 16.

AGAIN, WE THINK MANY OF THEM WIE THE OPTION TO GO UP TO STATE RON THE NEW ROUTE BECAUSE OF THE TRC SIGNAL USING THAT. I DID WANT TO SHARE THAT I KNOWE APPLICANT AND REPRESENTATIVES OE APPLICANT AND I MET WITH THE VEE PEOPLE AT THE RV PARK AND TALKEO THEM.

WE ACTUALLY MET THEM OUT ON THER PROPERTY, TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE E PROPOSING TO DO, AND JUST BASEDT DISCUSSION WITH THEM, AND I DONT TO PUT WORDS IN THEIR MOUTHS, BD NOT HEAR ANY SERIOUS OBJECTION THEM. THE OTHER THING TO ADD, AND STAE ABLE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INPUN THIS, BUT I NO IN ADDITION THAT- KNOW IN ADDITION TO THE THAT THS LOOKING AT THE LONGER-TERM PLANA WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO IMPW STATE ROAD 16. I BELIEVE BASED ON DISCUSSES WIF THAT THEY HAVE BEEN INVOLVE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DOT. SO I RECOGNIZED THAT ONE PIECE E AGAIN AS A NEW MAJOR COLLECTOR. BUT A SECOND PIECE OF THE PUZZLT I BELIEVE THE DOT IS LOOKING ATT NOW AS FAR AS INTERSECTION IMPRS DOWN IN THE INTERCHANGE AREA, AY BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR STAFF TS THAT. I WAS ALSO ASKED BY MS. WHITTINO STATE ON THE RECORD MY QUALIFIC, THAT I AM A PRFERL ENGINEER LIC- PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER LICENSED N FLORIDA AND HAVE BEEN PROVIDING ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT FOR A LITTLE OVER 2. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MORE

QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, BILL.

>> MAY I ASK A QUESTION NOW? >> YOU MAY. >> MR. SCHILLER, IS IT TRUE, MOE

TRAFFIC IN THE MORNING IS GOING SOUTHEAST TOWARDS THE INTERSTAT? >> CORRECT, YES, SIR.

>> AND IN THE EVENING MOST OF TE TRAFFIC IS GOING FROM THE INTERT 16 AND 208.

IS THAT GENERALLY TRUE? >> FROM THE RESIDENTIAL STANDPO, SIR, THAT IS GENERALLY TRUE.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GONE THROUGH OUR EX PARTED QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. I WANT TO BE BRIEF HERE BECAUSEE HAVEN'T HAD POTTY BREAK FOR THR, BUT FROM TIME TO TIME I TRY AND UNDERSTAND THE OPPOSITION AND GM OR THE FOLKS AT HOME.

I'M DOING IT LESS AND LESS NOW E I'VE BEEN DOING IT SO MUCH. THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THIS PIEF PROPERTY HAS BEEN MIXED USE FORT 20, 25 YEARS OR SO, SO IF ANYONE PURCHASED A PROPERTY AND DIDN'TR

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REALIZE THAT, THAT'S A SHAME, BA REALTOR SAID, OH, THAT'S ALL GOE CONSERVATION LAND, GO AFTER THER AND SAY IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT AND E THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER BE THEY'RE IN THE BUSINESS.

BUT THIS HAS BEEN A FUTURE LANDR CURRENT LAND USE AS MIXED USE FY LONG TIME.

THIS IS A MAJOR INTERSECTION INE COUNTY HERE, AND THIS IS WHERE H FROM THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE, M MINE, FROM THE COUNTY'S PERSPEC, WANTS AND IS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN A HIGHER DENSITY THAN, SAY, TEN MY FROM THE INTERSTATE. SO IT MAKES LOGICAL SENSE TO ALS TOW TO HAPPEN. I THINK IT'S A BENEFIT FOR THE D TO BE IMPROVED.

THERE WAS NOTES ON FLOODING ISS. NOW YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW ROAD TS BUILT TO TODAY'S STANDARDS AS OO STANDARDS FROM FOUR OR MORE YEAO WHEN APPARENTLY FLOODING WASN'TT MUCH OF AN ISSUE.

40 YEARS AGO. BY LAW AND BY THE COUNTY REQUIRA LANDOWNER CAN'T PUSH WATER OR RR OFF ON AN ADJACENT PROPERTY. IT JUST IS NOT ALLOWED TO HAPPEY LONGER.

I'M SURE IT HAPPENED MANY YEARSD I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHER EXAMPLF THAT, BUT THERE'S NO MORE WATERG WHEN THIS IS ALL SAID AND DONE,Y NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES THAN WHAE IS TODAY AT THAT POINT.

>> THAT'S NOT TRUE. THAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR DEVELOPD STUFF WHEN DREAM FINDERS BUILT .

THE COUNTY SAID, OH, YAWSHES THD TO GO AND WE HAD ST. JOHNS COUNE OUT A COUPLE TIMES SO IT IS AN G

ISSUE. >> SIR. CAN WE CUT HIM OFF? WE'RE OUT OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKING COMMENTS HERE. AGAIN, WHOEVER TOLD YOU IT WAS G ELSE, GO FOR THEM. IT DOESN'T -- AGAIN, THIS HAS BN PAINTED HERE.

A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T KNOW TO LOT ZONING MAPS IF THEY WANT TO BUY PROPERTY, AND I GET THAT, BUT IT THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE THE Y INTO THIS COUNTY, AND 30 YEARS N I MOVED HERE THAT WAS ME, TOO, D UNLESS YOU REALLY REALIZED THATU KNOW, I GOT TWO KIDS AND THEY'RG TO HAVE TWO KIDS OR WHATEVER THE MAY BE, YOU DEVELOP GROWTH IN TE SMARTEST 1-800-AS POSSIBLE AND S THING -- WAIST POSSIBLE AND THIG BEING RIGHT BY THE INTERSTATE IN EASY, SMART, NECESSARY LOCATIONR IT ALL.

AND SO THAT IS SORT OF A LITTLEF FEEDBACK FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OE SEE HERE GENERALLY FROM TIME TOE WITH FOLKS WHO ARE WORRIED ABOUE EFFECTIVENESS OF THEIR PROPERTYU KNOW, ADJACENT TO IT.

I FEEL YOU. I THINK FROM A DUST PERSPECTIVEE GOT SOME CONCERNS THERE, AND I T KNOW HOW THAT GETS FIXED THERE. BUT FROM THE GENERAL NATURE OF S THING BEING DEVELOPED, IT'S GOIE DEVELOPED. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. IT'S ALWAYS PLANNED ON BEING DE.

SO I THINK YOU JUST NEED TO READ THAT. AT ANY RATE, I DIDN'T WANT TO PONTIFICATE TOO MUCH HERE BUT IT TO EXPLAIN THAT WITH A LITTLE ES THERE.

SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE IT BACK D. WE'RE IN THE AGENCY AT THIS POI. WE'VE DONE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS,M

LOOKING FOR THOUGHTS, COMMENTS A MOTION, PLEASE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, A MOTION TO RED APPROVAL OF MAJOR MOD 2020-06 EN APPOINT AT ANDERSON PARK PUD BAN SIX FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDEE

STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND. >> MR. CHAIR, MIKE ROBERTSON.

>> YES, SIR. >> DOES MR. MATOVINA WANT TO ADE TWO ITEMS THAT THE APPLICANT MED WERE CLARIFICATION OR CORRECTIOS AT THE BEGINNING BECAUSE THAT WE BEEN REPRESENTED IN THE ORIGINAF

REPORT WITH REGARD TO OPEN SPACE NAME CHANGE? >> I DID CHANGE THE NAME WHEN I.

>> YES, SIR. THEN THE CHANGE TO THE OPEN SPAS WELL?

>> YES. >> YES, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT.

AND OUR SECOND, MS. MEGAN. >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT.

ARCHIE, YOU HAD A QUESTION? >> A COMMENT. THIS IS AN INFILL PROJECT, AND T THAT. I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT WAY RR THAN STRETCHING IT OUT.

THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT PROPOSEE ADEQUATE AND STRONG. THE SOILS ARE QUITE ADEQUATE FOS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT AND CAN BE N CARE OF THOROUGHLY BY THE TECHNY THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US TODAY VEN THE SOILS BOOK WAS WRITTEN. I THINK THE PROTECTION OF THE WS IS IMPORTANT.

AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO TT WITHIN THE EXISTING EXISTIE COUNTY AND THE STATE, AND I BELT

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WILL HAPPEN. THAT'S ALL. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND TO APPROVE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, WE'LL VOTE. MR. MATOVINA.

>> YES. >> MR. ALAIMO. >> YES.

>> MS. PERKINS. >> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES.

MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK.

>> NO. >> DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES 6-1. YOU GUYS WANT TO TAKE A BIO BRER JUST PUSH THROUGH?

>> KEEP GOING. >> YOU GUYS AT HOME PROBABLY CAT IF YOU MUTE, I HOPE.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 12, LAST BUT NOT LE, MS. WILSON.

[12. CPA (SS) 2020-02 - 9321 Byrd Road.]

>> DIANN WILSON. >> DIANNE. DIFFERENT WAY TO SPELL DIANN.

HOW ARE YOU TODAY? YOU'RE SW PATIENT. >> THANK YOU.

YOU'RE EATING INTO MY HAPPY HOUI KNOW YOU ALL LIKE A HAPPY HOUR,O I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF.

MY NAME IS DIANN WILSON. LIVE AT 1297 COUNTY ROAD 13 SOU. I'M REPRESENTING MY HUSBAND WOOA CPA. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT SCANDZD FOR ARE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENT CHANGE ON A SMALL SCALE FOR 932D ROAD. I'D LIKE TO IN ADVANCE THANK STF SPECIFICALLY TERESA BISHOP WHO D WITH AND WHO ACTUALLY CREATED TE PRESENTATION.

I'VE TWEAKED IT A LITTLE BIT ANY OWN COMMENTS. THIS IS A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENN AMOUNTED FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATT 9321 BYRD ROAD. CURRENTLY IT'S AGRICULTURE INTEE WANT TO REZONE IT I MEAN CHANGEE AMENDMENT TO RESIDENTIAL-A. THE PROPERT IS JUST OVER 5.5 ACS 5.6 ACRES. AND WE'RE SEEKING TO PLACE A SIE ON THIS 5.6 ACRES.

DO I HAVE A CLICKER WITH MOVIES? >> THERE MIGHT BE ONE ON THE OTR PODIUM.

>> I'LL GET IT. THANK YOU. MY FIRST TIME EVER PRESENTING IT

OF THE PZA OR EVER DOING ONE OFE THINGS. >> AND YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ASK

QUESTIONS. >> I'LL TRY TO REMEMBER THAT. WHOOPS.

WELL, WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS I A EXTRA SLIDE. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DOES NOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IN AGRICULTURE INTENSE UNLESS IT'S 39 ACRES.

AS A STATED THERE IS 5 ISN'T 68. BASED ON COMMENTS AND OUR DISCUS WITH COUNTY STAFF, WE WERE ADVIS WAS THE ONLY WAY TO PROCEED IN O MAKE THIS LAND MORE USABLE. A LITTLE HISTORY.

THIS PROPERTY, THIS WHOLE LITTLR HERE WAS CSH THIS 5.6 ACRES WASF A 15-ACRE PARCEL THAT WAS SUBDIN 2005 UTILIZING THE FAMILY FARM . THE GENTLEMAN THAT DIVIDED THE Y BETWEEN HIS TWO SIBLINGS OR HISO CHILDREN CLEARLY DID THIS TO JUL THE LAND. TWO OF THE THE PROPERTIES ACTUAE GONE INTO FORECLOSURE SINCE THE. MY HUSBAND BOUGHT THIS PROPERTYY AFTER HE SUBDIVIDED.

THIS NEXT SLIDE IS KIND OF DAMAN YOU LOOK AT IT BECAUSE -- OH, TS THIS FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS IT Y IS. THE NEXT MAP SHOWS WHAT WE WANT, AND IT KIND OF STANDS OUT LIKE E THUMB. BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING TO PUT A BF HOUSES ON THERE.& WE JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO PUT E FAMILY DWELLING AND MAKE THE PRY CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF THE OTHR PROPERTIES IN THE AREA. THE NEXT MAP WE'RE LOOKING AT IN RURAL WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR RESL BUT NOT IN AGRICULTURAL INTENSE. THIS ONE SHOWS THE PROPERTY ANDF THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING IT, ANU CAN SEE, THERE WERE TEN HOMES TE WITHIN THE 300-FOOT RADIUS, ANDU LOOK AT ALL THE LAST NAMES, THEL FAMILIES THAT HAVE LIVED IN THA, THEIR CHILDREN LIVE THERE, THEIS LIVE THERE, THEIR BROTHERS LIVE.

ASIDE FROM THE FIRST TWO AND THT TWO, THE LAST TWO WERE ACTUALLYO PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT SUBSEQUENT PS THAT WERE PART OF THE ORIGINAL . ALONG WITH THAT, THERE'S A FEW R RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT ARE OUTSF THAT 300-FOOT CATEGORY, BUT FORT PART, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S S OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES ALONG BYRDD

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LUTHER BANK ROAD. SO ASKING TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMY INCONSISTENT WITH THE CONCURRENF THE LAND. THIS JUST HIGHLIGHTS THE RED CIS INDICATE THE ONES THAT WERE WITE 300-FOOT RADIUS. THE LITTLE PURPLE CIRCLES AROUNE HOUSES INDICATE THOSE THAT WEREE OF THAT 300-FOOT RADIUS. THIS IS A TERRIBLE MAP BUT THIST DEPICTS -- I COULDN'T GET TO IT- DEPICTS KIND OF THE TOTAL 15 ACT WAS SUBDIVIDED AND CONSEQUENTLYS IN A POSITION TO HAVE THIS 5.68S THAT WE CANNOT BUILD A HOME ON D A DWELLING ON. SO THE PROPERTY WILL REMAIN OPE.

THE AREA IS MADE UP MOSTLY OF LD RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THE ADDITION OF ANOTHER SINGLE Y DWELLING IS CONSISTENT AND COMPE WITH THE EXISTING AREA. IN CLOSING, BY GRANTING THIS SME LAND USE DESIGNATION, FUTURE LAE MAP, REALLY ISN'T GOING TO IMPAY SERVICES, OPEN SPACE, PUBLIC FA.

THERE WAS NO COMMENTS FROM ANY E NEIGHBORS NOR, FROM MY BEST UNDERSTANDING, STAFF.

Y IS IN CLOSING, I'D JUST LIKE Y THAT WE RECEIVED AN UNSOLICITEDO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY IN THE MF THIS WHOLE PROCESS THAT WAS ON R THE 9TH. AND IT'S ACTUALLY BY ONE OF THET PROPERTIES' CHILDREN. HE IS IN ILL HEALTH AND SHE'S AE AND WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BE CLOR FATHER AND BE ABLE TO ASSIST HIS HEALTH MIGHT DECLINE. SO I'M HERE TODAY ASKING YOUR AL FOR THIS COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENE FOR SMALL SCALE TO ALLOW A SINGY DWELLING ON THIS 5.68-ACRE PROP.

THANK YOU. AND I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS. >> WE'LL GO THROUGH THE LIST ANF

WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. ANY EX PARTE OR QUESTIONS, MR. ? >> NO, EX PARTE, NO QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. MR. ALAIMO. >> NO EX PARTE AND NO QUESTIONS,

MR. CHAIRMAN. >> MS. PERKINS. >> NO EX PARTE, NO QUESTIONS.

>> MR. KOPPENHAFER, NO EX PARTEO QUESTIONS. MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> NO, NO. >> ALL RIGHT. DR. HILSENBECK.

>> NO EX PARTE, NO QUESTIONS. >> WONDERFUL. MR. CORMICK, DR. MCCORMICK.

>> NO, NO. >> VERY GOOD. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. TO DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKE? >> NO.

>> DO KIEV EV WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS ONLINE FOR THIS VERY L? J THE REGISTER SUGGESTS THERE I,

BUT IS THERE NO ONE BACK THERE? >> IT SAID ONE ALL DAY LONG. >> IT VARIES BETWEEN ZERO AND 1.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN. >> HOLD ON, BILL. WE HAVE NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

ALL RIGHT. THEN WE ARE BACK IN THE AGENCY R COMMENTS OR MOTIONS.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION. >> GREG BEAT YOU TO IT. >> ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION OF .

>> NEVER MIND. GO AHEAD, GREG. >> JUST QUICKLY.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GOINGD OUT LIKE SORE THUMB IS THE THEOE THAT IF SOMEBODY ELSE COMES ALOM

BUT WHAT'S THE THEORY HERE? >> WELL, YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INDICATES THAT AREAS DESIGNATEDS RURAL/SILVICULTURE AND AGRICULTL INTENSIVE ARE NOT DEVELOPMENT A. TO ADD DEVELOPMENT AREA SHALL BS ENCOURAGED UNLESS A APPLICANT DEMONSTRATES, AND THIS IS IN THF REPORT, ECONOMIC JOB DEVELOPMENB CREATION, PRESERVATION OF NATURL ENVIRONMENT, OTHER PUBLIC BENEF. SO THERE'S THAT.

WE DID INDICATE THAT IT'S SPRAWD THERE'S A SPOT, YOU'RE USED TO G SPOT ZONING, SPOT LAND USE A LI.

IF YOU SEE THAT MAP SCALED OUT E BIT MORE THAN WHAT YOU SAW ON TT IT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE DE TO THE RESIDENTIAL AND ANY OTHED USES OTHER THAN PARKS AND REC, D RURAL SILVER CULTURE ABOUT TWO S AWAY. SO THERE'S THAT. I THINK THAT'S THE POINT, RIGHT? HOWEVER ON THE PRACTICAL SIDE OS BEING PLACED THERE POTENTIALLY,F IT WAS THE MAXIMUM OF FIVE UNITT

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DOES SEEM IN LINE AND WE ALSO ID THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT TOO. SO THERE'S A FEW THINGS TOW CONR YOU. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT ANSWERS YOR QUESTION.

>> THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW. >> SATISFIED? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. BILL, YOU HAD A COMMENT OR A MO. >> NO, I THOUGHT GREG WAS GOINGE A MOTION BUT I'LL MAKE IT. MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OFS SMALL SCALE, 2020-02 SWB 9321 BD

BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND FROM MR. WAINRIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, WE'LL GO THROUGH E

LIST. MR. MATOVINA. >> I HATE TO BE MR. CHAIRMAN, IO

ON THIS ONE. >> MR. ALAIMO. >> YES.

>> MS. PERKINS. >> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES.

MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK.

>> YES. >> AND DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 6-1. THAT WAS A LONG AGENDA, LADIES D GENTLEMEN. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEIK ABOUT IT.

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STAFF REPORTS? >> MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU, AND THY MEMBERS FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

THIS WAS A LONG AGENDA AND I HAT ADMIRABLY AND QUICKLY. ONE OF THE REASONS IT WAS SO LOI THINK WE HAD FOUR CONTINUATION , AND SOMETIMES THOSE HAVE TO BE N AND AS YOU KNOW IT'S OUR JOB TOT THESE ITEMS ON AND SOMETIMES PEE CLOSINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, E ARE THOSE TIMES WHERE WE HAVE TO STOCKPILE IT BUT WE TRY NOT TO T TO YOU. SO WITH THAT COMMENT, OUR NOVEMBER 19TH PLANNING AND ZONIG AGENCY MEETING I THINK HAS FOUR. SO THERE YOU GO.

I THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO A. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

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AGENCY REPORTS? >> MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> WE WILL MISS YOU DID -- I WIE THERE. >> WITH FOUR ITEMS THAT SOUNDS .

ANY OTHER? ALL RIGHT. ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO?

>> SO MOVED. >> SO MOVED. >> THANK YOU GUYS.

APPRECIATE IT.

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