Oct 15, 2020 Planning and Zoning Agency

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>> THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENR OCTOBER 15, 2020. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME ALL HERE.

WE'VE GOT PUBLIC NOTICE STATEMEO READ HERE. CONFIRMING MEMBER ACCESS.

AS A PRELIMINARY MATTERING I AMF COP. PERMIT ANY AGENCY MEMBERS THAT T PHYSICALLY PRESENT CAN HERE ME L AS I CALL THE ROLL, AND I WILL E ROLL MR. MATOVINA IS NUMBER 1 OS WEEK'S ROLE. MR. MATOVINA, CAN YOU HEAR ME? ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL COME BACK TO HIM. MR. ALAIMO. MR. ALAIMO, ARE YOU THERE?

WE WILL COME BACK TOO HIM. MS. PERKINS. >> I'M HERE.

>> THANK YOU. WONDERING IF WE HAD ANYBODY ONL. MR. KOPPENHAFER IS HERE.

I SEE MR. WAINWRIGHT. >> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK.

>> I AM HERE AND I CAN HEAR YOUT FINE, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

DR. MCCORMICK. >> I'M PRESENT. >> ALL RIGHT.

AND GOING BACK TO THE TOP OF TH, MR. MATOVINA. >> I AM PRESENT.

I BARELY MISSED YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND MR. ALAIMO.

I DO NOT HEAR ROY, SO WE WILL MM AS NOT PRESENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

INTRODUCTION TO MEETING INCLUDIE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. GOOD AFTERNOON ONCE AGAIN AND WO THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLAD ZONING AGENCY. IN ORDER TO MITIGATE THE TRARNSN OF THE CORONAVIRUS AND REDUCE RF COVID-19 ILLNESS THE GOVERNOR HS SUSPENDED THE RAIMPLET PHYSICALM AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSS ADOPTED PROCEEDINGS ARE TO CONDT MEETINGS USING REMOTE PARTICIPAG THROUGH ST. JOHNS COUNTY EMERGER NUMBER 2020-10 SO THAT THE PUBLA MEANS HAD TO COMMENT WITHOUT PHY ATTENDING. ALONG WITH PRIOR COMMUNICATIONS INCLUDING EMAIL IF PUBLIC WILL E TO COMMENT BY TELEPHONE WHILE WATCHING THE MEETING VIA GTV ORY STREAMING POSTED ON COUNTY'S WE.

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>> THANK YOU. PUBLIC NOTICE THIS IS A PROPER NOTICED PUBLICG HELD IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW. THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TE AGENCY'S AREA OF JURISDICTION AE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUO OFFER COMMENTS AT A DESIGNATED E DURING THE HEARING. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC DESIRI WISHING, OFFERING, TO SPEAK MUST INDICATE SO BY COMPLETING A SPED WHICH IS AVAILABLE IN THE FOYER.

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THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIM THE MEETING ON EACH ITEM AND FOA LENGTH OF TIME AS DESIGNATED BYD CHAIRMAN WHICH WILL SHALL BE THE MINUTES. SPEAKERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSEK WHOM THEY REPRESENT, AND THEN SE THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIM.

IF THEY DO NOT, THE FACT THAT TY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED E AGENCY IN DETERMINING THE WEIGHR TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY. II. IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL AY

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IF SUCH COMMUNICATION HAS OCCURE AGENCY MEMBER SHOULD THEN IDENTE PERSON INVOLVED IN THE MATERIALT OF THE COMMUNICATION. IV. CIVILITY CLAUSE.

WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANR EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE. WEEM WE WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTE

ISSUES. WE WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS. >> MR. KOPENHAFER: THANK YOU,

[Approval of meeting minutes for PZA 7/16/20 and PZA 9/17/20 ]

WE HAVE TWO SETS. THE FIRST IS FROM JULY 16TH, 20D THE SECOND IS FROM SEPTEMBER 17.

DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR CLARIFICATIONS TO BE MADE ON THM ANY OF THE AGENCY MEMBERS? IF SO, SPEAK UP. HEARING NONE, THEN WE'LL GO AHED VOTE.

WE'LL JUST COMBINE THESE, VOTE N MEETING MINUTES -- >> MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> YES. >> SORRY. I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTI.

>> PLEASE DO. >> OKAY. MY QUESTION IS CAN WE APPROVE BF

THESE WITH THE ONE MOTION OR DOE TO DO IT SEPARATELY? >> BRADLEY?

>> FOR SAFETY'S TAKE, LET'S DO M SEPARATELY. >> ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL BE SAFE HERE. ALL RIGHT. THEN I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION O

APPROVE THE JULY 16, 2020, MEETG MINUTES. >> I'LL SO MOVE.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THO. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION WHEN THIS? HEARING NONE, WE'LL JUST DO A VE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. AYE. >> AYE.

>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? I HEAR NONE.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, SECOND THAT MOY THE WAY. >> THANK YOU.

UP NEXT IS THE MEETING MINUTES M SEPTEMBER 17TH. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THAT?

GREG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE THE ? >> I VOTE TO APPROVE. >> OKAY.

GREG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SECOND ? >> SECOND. YES, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO PROVE AND A. MEETING MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER .

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, WE'LL DO A VOICE S WELL.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE.

>> AYE. >> AYE. ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE, MEETING MINUTES AE APPROVED FOR BOTH TIMES AND DAT. UP NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THIS IS WHERE THE PUBLIC HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ANYTHING TS NOT ALREADY ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ANYONE IN THE ROOM FOR PUBLIC C? SEEING NONE, LET'S GO TO THE INT ANYBODY BOUNCING OFF THE SATELLR

PUBLIC COMMENT? >> NO COMMENT AT THIS TIME. >> ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE NOW CLOSING PUBLIC COMME. WE ARE GETTING THE SHOW ON THE D HERE.

[1. ZVAR 2020-21 Stratton Boulevard Variance. ]

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE COULD JUI CAN GET IT OUT OF THE WAY AND YT HAVE TO HEAR FROM ME AGAIN AOUTF THE BOARD WOULD DISCLOSE ANY EXI KNOW YOU'RE PRACTICE HAS BEEN WU ASK QUESTIONS TO DISCLOSE WELL,T

TO BE CLEAR FOR EACH ONE OF THES ON THE AGENDA YOU'LL NEED TO DO. >> IF YOU DON'T MIND WE DO IT WE

QUESTIONS, THAT I. WA WE CAN SPD THINGS UP. >> EXACTLY.

>> ALL RIGHT. MS. TAYLOR. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. AND I APPRECIATE BEING FIRST. >> NUMERAL NUMBER ONE IN OUR EY.

>> THUG. THANK YOU. THIS IS AGENDA NUMBER 1, AND ITE STRATTON BOULEVARD ZONING VARIAR WET STONE PROPERTIES, LLC AND HK WETSTONE IS WITH ME TODAY.

HE'S GOING TO INTERJECT A LITTLD HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIOI MIGHT NOT ABLE TO AS WELL.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE, THIS ZONING YOU PROBABLY REMEMB. IT WAS -- YOU ACTUALLY SAW IT IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR. IT IT WASN'T APPROVED UNTIL MAYS YEAR JUST FOR DIFFERENT THINGS.

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I NOTICED IN THE STAFF REPORT WT TO PROPERTY DEFINED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, AND ACTUALLY FOR MY ADVERTISING IT'S EVEN A LITTLE T DIFFERENT, IN FACT, THE ADVERTIS FOR MORE THAN WHAT I AM GOING TW YOU TODAY. SO THAT'S A GOOD THING. BUT BASICALLY IT'S THE FIRST PAF THAT 8.34 ACRES. AND THE -- WHEN IT WAS CHANGED G TO CW, AND CW ALLOWS FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AS WELL AS FOR COMMEL INTENSIVE USES, AND SO THAT GO D FROM THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL OF E 20-FOOT B SCREENING REQUIREMENT0 FOOD C. -- FOOT EXRVMENT.

PERMITS WERE ISSUED FOR THE SITR THE FIRST BUILDING UNDER THE CG. HE CONTINUED ON WITH THAT.

INITIALLY WHEN WE WENT BACK ANDD THAT IT WAS TOWARDS THE END OF Y THOUGHT, WELL, MAYBE THIS WILL E VESTED, WOULDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUET AFERG MEETING WITH THE COUNTY AS OFFICE THEY DECIDED THAT IT NEEA ZONING VARIANCE SO THAT'S WHY WE TODAY. SO THIS GIVES YOU A GENERAL IDEE PROPERTY. IT SHOWS YOU THE FULL -- THE FUL 8.34 ACRES, AND THEN IT SHOWS YE PARCEL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, KIND OF THE RELATIONSHIP, THEREA LARGE RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOUSE TYPE DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH HERE. AND THEN THERE ACTUALLY IS SOME INDUSTRIAL OVER TO THE SIDE.

KIND OF SHOWS YOU THE ACCESS, WS ALONG STRATTON BOULEVARD AND STD 16.

AND THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BROAD, JUST TO GIVE A BETTER IDEA OF EY WHERE IT IS, JUST AS A REMINDERD AGAIN THIS IS STATE ROAD 16, STN BOULEVARD, AND THIS WOULD BE IND SO I95 WOULD BE OFF TO THE LEFT.

THE SITE ITSELF KIND OF SHOWS YD YOU CAN SEE IT OUTLINED IN RED,T SHOWS YOU OBVIOUSLY THE AERIALST UP TO DATE, BUT THESE ARE AS CLE COULD GET, AND IT DOES SHOW YOUE INTERNAL EASEMENT THAT WAS PLAN, WHICH IS TO BE IMPROVED. IT ALSO SHOWS YOU THE RETENTIONA THAT IS ALREADY CONSTRUCTED ANDE RELATIONSHIP TO THE LOSS OF SEBN COVE WHICH IS THE RESIDENTIAL. AS FOR FUTURE LAND USES, THIS IA MIXED USE AREA. THERE IS SOME RURAL/SILVICULTURR SOME CONCENTRATION AREA OFF TO T AND A LITTLE BIT OF SERVICE TO H FOR THE COUNTY UTILITY. THIS SHOWS THE 8.34 ACRES AND HE IT, AND IT DOES HAVE -- IT'S KIA DARKER PINK THAN THE CG. THIS IS STILL CG TO THE SOUTH, E EAST, AND THE PARCEL THAT WE'REG ABOUT HERE IS ADJACENT TO THE OE NORTH.

JUST A REFRESHER THIS WAS THE OL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE BASIS FORE REZONING.

IT PROVIDES FOR TWO NEW ACCESS . RIGHT NOW THIS EASEMENTS COMES S DIRECTION.

IT ADDED THIS, WHICH IS A PRIMAS TO ELIMINATE THE USE OF THIS FO, ALTHOUGH THAT WILL STILL BE USE.

AS SAID, WE PUT THE RETENTION PN THE NORTH AS A BUFFER, AND THENT PROVIDES FOR THESE FLEX BUILDINH WOULD BE FACING THE BACK TO THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE BACK TO THE RESIDENTIAL IN THIS.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE PLAN FOR THEL THAT WAS INITIALLY APPROVED ANDN MODIFIED OR WHATEVER FOR THE FIT PHASE, AND THAT INCLUDED THE BUG AND THE SITE THAT WE'RE TALKING. IT ALSO INCLUDED THE RETENTION D IMPROVEMENTS TO THE DRIVEWAY ANO CLEARING OF THE SITE. AND THIS IS JUST A LITTLE CLOSE.

AGAIN, WE CAN'T REALLY SEE IT BU CAN SEE WHERE THE PAD FOR THE BG WAS GOING, AND THE INITIAL CLEAD THE INITIAL WORK THAT WAS BEING. THIS FIRST PHASE SITE PLAN, THIT A COPY OF THE SITE PLAN, SHOWS N

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THAT BUILDING IS NOW COMPLETED,T AGAIN THAT KIND OF GETS YOU CLON CASE THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEEDEK ABOUT, AND THE PARKING IS ACTUAY COMPLETED AS WELL. AND THAT GIVES YOU A VIEW OF THE BUILDING AND THE PARKING LOT, KF SHOWING YOU. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO LANDSCAPINT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OG FOR THIS AS WELL. BUT THE BUILDING IS PRETTY READE P THIS IS THE BACK OF THE BUILDD YOU CAN SEE THE HOUSE, THE MOBIE THAT IS ON THE ADJACENT LOT.

THEY HAVE A LITTLE FENCE ALONG T ISN'T A REQUIRED BUFFER FENCE, E OF THIS SHOWS YOU THE INCREDIBLE THAT COMES OUT OF THE BACK OF TS BUILDING, AND ALSO SHOWS YOU THE VEGETATION THAT IS ON THE SITE .

AND JUST A REMINDER, TOO, THAT N DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE REZONING OR ANY CHANGE IN THIS D HASN'T HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THESE CHANGES. SO THAT SHOWS YOU FROM ANOTHER E THAT'S KIND OF LOOKING TO THE ED KIND OF SHOWS YOU THE AREA WHERS GOING TO BE A BUILDING PAD OUTSF THESE, AND THEN THIS IS THE SLOT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE REMAING 18 FEET OF THE BUFFER.

SO THE VARIANCE TO THOSE REQUIRS TALKING ABOUT TO ALLOW FOR THE N IN DISTANCE FROM THE 30 TO 20 FR THAT PARTICULAR SITE ONLY. AND ALSO THE NEED FOR A WALL ORG THAT WOULD BE ADJACENT TO THE BG OR ALONG THE BOUNDARY. SO AS I MENTIONED, IT WAS ALREAY APPROVED AND PERMITTED AND CONS, PLANNED WITH THAT. THE REZONING CHANGED THAT. AND AS I MENTIONED, WE CAN MEETE SETBACKS. THE SETBACKS ARE A LITTLE DIFFER CG, A LITTLE LESS ON THE SIDE AR YARD BUT WE STILL NEED MEET ALLF THOSE. BUT THE BUFFER WOULD CHANGE TO E 30-FOOT C SCREENING REQUIREMENTD THAT'S THE B STANDARD WITH VEGEN ALONG WITH THE MISS MASONRY .

NOW, THE REQUEST, I'LL BREAK ITE TWO PARTS. ONE IS THE WIDTH, AND THE BUILDG OBVIOUSLY IS ALREADY CONSTRUCTED IT'S 20 FEET FROM THE BOUNDARY,O THERE'S NO WAY TO MOVE THAT.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT CHANGE IN E, THE SITE HAS TO BE RAISED QUITE SIGNIFICANTLY, AND I'VE GOT SOME NUMBERS THERE. IT'S APPROXIMATELY GOING TO BE T 41 FEET.

YOU HAVE SEEN THAT FROM SOME OFE PICTURES THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKAS WELL.

AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TOT AND ABOUT 34 FEET FOR THE ADJACT PROPERTY OWNER.

SO THAT'S BETWEEN 6 AND 7, ALMO2 FEET IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ALO, SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THH CRYING TO KEEP THE, AGAIN, ABLEO THE WALL AND THE THINGS THAT HA. SO THE INITIAL SITE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE APPROVED THAT HE COMMD CONSTRUCTION UNDER HAD A 4-FOOTE AREA FOR A SIDEWALK AND THEN A G WALL THAT RAN THE LENGTH OF THEG AND LEFT THAT 15 FEET FOR THE BD AT THE TIME THE PLANS EXAWLD FOA 6-FOOT -- CALLED FOR A 6-FOOT HY VEINS PRIVACY FENCE WHICH WOULD BE RED UNDER THE B STANDARD AND DID HAE TREES AND THE GRASS, THE TREES E PLANTED TO 20 FEET ON CENTER.

DURING CONSTRUCTION, THOUGH, ASS WERE GOING ALONG AND ACTUALLY AE WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE ZONT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THERE WERE R OF UTILITIES THAT HAD TO BE WITT 15 FEET, AND THE STAFF HAD VERYG CONCERNS ABOUT BEING ABLE TO MAN THAT SLOPE WITH THE PLANS THAT N SUBMITTED.

SO THIS KIND OF SHOWS YOU THAT . IT KIND OF SHOWS YOU WHERE THATR AND SLOPE IS.

IT SHOWS YOU SOME OF THE CHANGET INITIALLY WERE MADE TO KIND OF H SOME OF THAT.

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AND THEN ADDED THAT TO THAT. SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, THAT SL, WHICH IS THE 2 TO 1 SLOPE LEFT,D OF LOOKED INTO THE IDEA OF, OKAE NEED TO CONSTRUCT THE WALL AT TM VERSUS A FENCE.

AND WHEN YOU DO A WALL, YOU DO O HAVE FOOTERS AND YOU DO HAVE TOA CERTAIN WIDTH TO IT, SO ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTION OF THE WALL WITHINT AREA PROBABLY COULD IMPACT THE VEGETATION ON THE ADJACENT SITED WOULD CUT INTO THAT BERM, AND ID HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM WITH THE UT. IT'S A PROBLEM WITH THE UTILITIS EASEMENT THAT GOES THROUGH. SO WHEN THAT LITTLE BIT OF CHANE FELT THAT THE FENCE OR THE WALLY WASN'T GOING TO MAKE A WHOLE BIG DIFFERENCE, AND THAT ACTUALLY TE ACTIVITY WITH THE BUILDING WOULL ABOVE THE 6-FOOT HIGH WALL OR F. JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDES JUST A GRADING PLAN, AND AGAIN D OF JUST DEMONSTRATES HOW MUCH GG HAS HAD TO TAKE PLACE IN THAT SL SPACE.

SO THE B SCREENING ADDS THAT ADL VEGETATION, AND WHAT IT DOES ISR GREEN SHRUBS THAT ARE 6 FEET IN, AND THAT'S RIGHT OUTSIDE THAT PT COMES OFF THE BACK DOOR. AND THERE WOULD BE A GRASS AREA.

THEN IT WOULD HAVE THE CANOPY TD THOSE HAVE TO BE 10 FEET IN HEIN YOU PLANT THEM.

AND THAT WOULD HELP STABILIZE TM AS WELL. SO THAT VEGETATIVE SCREEN ACTUAD KIND OF, WITH THE COMBINATION OE TWO, AND REMEMBER THAT THE SITEO IT IS AT 34 FEET LOOKING UP AT E BUILDING, SO ACTUALLY IT WOULD - IT WOULD LOOK THROUGH THE TREEST WOULD BLOCK ANY ACTIVITY IN THEG ITSELF WITH THE HEDGE, THE 6-FOH HEDGE. WE DID FILE A MODIFICATION.

THAT'S IN THE PACKAGE THAT YOU , THAT WE DID RECEIVE APPROVAL THD THE COUNTY FELT THAT WAS A BETTR SOLUTION AT LEAST FOR THE BERM. SO HERE'S A COPY OF LANDSCAPE PT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT I JUST TALK, AND IT DOES SHOW YOU THE ROW OF, THEY'RE PARTIALLY DOWN THE SLOP. IT SHOWS THAT YOU 6-FOOT HIGH AS YOU THOSE LITTLE PADS ON THE PAE BUILDING. -- ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.

IN THIS DIAGRAM, THE ONE THAT ID GIVEN JUNS JUSTIN SHOWED A 2-FOE COMMENTS BACK AFTER I HAD PROVID THAT, THAT ACTUALLY HAS TO BE 6O THAT IS 6 FEET, SO THIS HAS BEEN MODIFIED FROM THAT AND SO WE ARE AGREEING TO DO THE 6 FEET. BUT ONE THING THIS DOES SHOW YOT DOES SHOW THIS FLORIDA POWER ANT EASEMENT, TOO, AND THERE IS A NR UTILITIES GOING THROUGH, SO ACTY WE'RE TRYING TO SPACE THOSE TREE MIDDLE OF THAT AND AS FAR DOWN Y COULD TO GET THE VEGETATION. SO VARIANCE HAS TO BE CONSISTENH THE ZONING CODE AND THE DEFINITS WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODD IT'S A RELAXATION OF TERMS IN TE WHERE THE VARIANCE WOULDN'T BE Y TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST. AND THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS LID HERE, WHICH WE'VE HEARD BEFORE,E NARROWNESS, SHALLOWNESS AND UNUL SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY, REASON OF TOPOGRAPHIC CONDITIONS, OTHER EXTRAORDINARY SITUATION OR CONDR BY REASON OF USE TO THE PROPERTY ADJOINING IT, THAT THE LITTER ENFORCEMENT WOULD CAUSE UNDUE HP TO CARRY OUT THE SPIRIT AND THEE OF THE CODE OR WOULD BE CONTRARE SPIRIT OF THE CODE. I CHOSE TWO.

I ACTUALLY COULD HAVE CHOSEN A F THOSE, BUT YOU FELT LIKE THEY'DE REDUNDANT, BUT BASICALLY IT'S TR EXTRAORDINARY SITUATION OR CONDF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WHICH HAL WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY, IT HAS TO H

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CW, BECAUSE IT'S A HYBRID ZONINT CHANGED THE BUFFER STANDARDS BUT ACTUALLY HAS DIFFERENT STANDARDE DIFFERENT USES. SO IF YOU USE INDUSTRIAL USES, T INDUSTRIAL USES, IT'S 30.

IF YOU END UP USING IT FOR COMML INTENSIVE USES, THEN IT'S THE 2. SO IT'S KIND OF AN UNUSUAL THIN.

BUT THE INTENT THAT HAIRCHG HADE DID THIS WAS TO PROVIDE FOR THEX SPACE AND TO PROVIDE BOTH TYPES.

THAT COULD EXIST ON ANY OF THOSE BUILDINGS, AND IN SOME CASES YOT HAVE A COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ANDT INDUSTRIAL IS IN THE SAME BUILD. HE CONSTRUCTED THAT FIRST BUILDD DID THIS AND DID THE ZONING CHAE BECAUSE HE HAD ANTICIPATED THATS GOING TO NEED THE ADDITIONAL SPR HIS COMPANY, AND HIS COMPANY ISC CANDY COMPANY. SO THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE G CHANGE, AND THE REASON FOR STARD GETTING THAT BUILDING GOING AS S HE DID BECAUSE HE HAD RUN OUT OE AND NEEDS SPACE FOR PART OF HIS INVENTORY, HIS MECHANICAL WORKS. SO HE'S ALSO LOOKED AROUND TO SE THERE'S NO OTHER SPACE TO BE ABO REALLY FOR HIM THE HARDSHIP IS A BUSINESS HARDSHIP IN THAT HE NEE ABLE TO USE THIS SPACE FOR HIS L USE INITIALLY AS WELLAGAIN, THER CONSTRUCTION AND ALMOST COMPLETE CAN'T MOVE IT, AND WE FEEL LIKEE REALLY CAN'T MEET THAT C SCREENG STANDARD, PARTICULARLY WITH THE, BUT WE'RE OFFERING IT I'M DAILGB PLUS BECAUSE IT OFFERS ADDITIONL LANDSCAPING. WITH THE USE OF THE ADJOINING P, AS I MENTIONED, IF IT WASN'T OP, THEN WE WOULD BE FINE WITH THE . AND NOT TO BE REDUNDANT, YOU PRY READ THIS WITHIN YOUR APPLICATIS ONLY GOING TO BE LIMITED TO HER. WE CAN'T DO THE DISTANCE BECAUSE CHANGE. THE SLOPE IS VERY DIFFICULT TO ACCOMMODATE ANYTHING, PARTICULAH THAT EASEMENT WITHIN IT. AND THE VEGETATIVE SCREEN WOULDT 100% OPACITY AND ACTUALLY, AS I, PROVIDE TWO LAYERS OF VEGETATIOG THAT, AND IT WOULD ALSO HELP TO STABILIZE ACTUALLY THAT BERM.

THE REQUEST IS NOT BASED EXCLUSY UPON THE DESIRE TO REDUCE THE CF DEVELOPING THE SITE.

THE ACTUAL CHANGES IN IT, IT'S G TO REDUCE THE COST. WE STILL HAVE TO DO ALL OF THE T THINGS AND STILL HAVE TO TAKE CF ALL THE VEGETATION AND THE GRASD INSTALL ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS, SE BUFFERING JUST REPLACES THAT PAR WALL. THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL SUBSY INCREASE CONGRESS ON THE PUBLICS OR THE DANGER OF FIRE OR OTHER . AGAIN, THIS ISN'T TO ANY SETBAC.

THIS IS TO JUST THE BUFFER AND T DOESN'T HAVE ANY CHANGE ON THE RELATIONSHIP TO THE TRAFFIC OR , THE OTHER HAZARDS. THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY DIMINISH PROPERTYS OR ALTER THE CHARACTER OF SELLIE SURROUNDING SITE. AGAIN, THE ZONING IS IN PLACE.

RECENTLY CHANGED, NO OBJECTIONSE ADJACENT OWNER. THE SCREENING STANDARDS WILL STL PROVIDE SCREENING WITH THE TREEE SME DISTANCE IS ALREADY APPROVE. AND AGAIN, I GO THROUGH THE SAMG UALLY VISUALLY, IT WILL ACTUALLY BE MORE EFFECTIVE FROMT RELATIONSHIP OF 7 FEET BELOW WHE ACTUAL SIDEWALK OR THOSE LITTLES ARE. THE PROPOSED VARIANCE IS IN HARH THE INTENT OF CODE, AND THE INTF THE AREAS OF THE CODE. WE CERTAINLY FEEL THAT IT IS, VR

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I KNOW YOU DO HAVE A LETTER FROE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, MRS. H. I KIND OF WANTED TO GIVE YOU A E

EXPLANATION. >> HI. MY NAME IS HANK WETSTONE.

I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER. I WANTED TO TELL YOU THIS PROPEE BEEN WORKING TO GET IT TO THIS R ABOUT TWO YEARS, AND WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION OF THE SITE ABOUT E LAST YEAR ON WHAT WAS PERMITTEDH RESPECT TO THE SITE, AND IT DIDE A LOT OF FILL DIRT AND A LOT OF, AND ONE OF THE LADIES THAT LIVEE OF THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT'S PAF THIS AREA, THERE ARE ONLY TWO OL PROPERTIES, WE CREATED A PROBLEE MORE WATER WAS ACCUMULATING IN , AND SO WE ADDRESSED THOSE ISSUES AGO.

WE INSTALL AN ADDITIONAL CULVERO DRAIN THAT, BUT WE HAVE BEEN HER THE PAST FOUR MONTHS IN KIND OFA DISPUTE WITH THE CITY AND THE CY OVER A UTILITY CONFLICT. THIS PROPERTY IS SERVED BY THE F SANTIAGO AND IT IS AT THE VERY - ST. AUGUSTINE AND IT IS AT THE D OF THEIR SERVICE LINE.

AND WE RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM TY AND OUR ENGINEERS AND THE WATER MANAGMENT DISTRICT TO PROCEED WA CONFLICT STRUCTURE THAT INVOLVEE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE'S GRAVITYR AND A 36-INCH STORM WATER PIPE.

AND WE PROCEEDED TO INSTALL THET STRUCTURE, AND THE CITY OF ST. E SAID, WAIT A MINUTE, WE DON'T AF THAT EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTY ANDE ELSE HAD. SO WE'VE BEEN IN AN ARGUMENT, AO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, WE HADP IT OUT AND DO IT THE WAY THE CIF ST. AUGUSTINE WANTED, AND THAT D US TO ORDER A NEW STRUCTURE. SO THE STABILIZATION OF THE ROAT SERVICES THESE TWO OPEN RURAL LS BEEN DELAYED BECAUSE WE STILL HO COMPLETE THE SEWER CONNECTION US ROADWAY.

SO I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THOSEO OWNERS AND TELL YOU THAT WE'RE O DO THE RIGHT THING.

AND WE UNDERSTOOD THEIR COMPLAI. WE'VE ADDRESSED IT. AND AS FAR AS THIS HARDSHIP NEEM TRYING TO -- WE'RE EXPANDING OUR BUSINESS WITH ATLANTIC CANDY COD WE DESPERATELY NEED TO RELOCATE EQUIPMENT INTO STORAGE THAT WE'T USING, AND THAT'S -- I HAVE -- S JUST A DEFICIT OF DEF DEFN ST. JOHNS COUNTY WHERE YOU CAN E INTO. WE JUST HAVE INVENTORY, AND WE DESPERATELY NEED TO START RELOCE EQUIPMENT AS SOON AS WE CAN GETS VARIANCE APPROVED.

AND WITH RESPECT -- ONE FINAL TI WANT TO SAY. WITH RESPECT TO THE ADDITIONAL SCREENING, THESE ADDITIONAL TREN WE RECEIVED THE COUNTY APPROVALE LANDSCAPE PLANS, THAT'S, OF COU, DIFFERENT THAN THAN THIS APPROVE VARIANCE, LAST WEEK I EXECUTED E ORDER, A $50,000 CHANGE ORDER OE LANDSCAPING BUDGET, WHICH IS PRY DRIVEN BY THIS. THIS FIRST BUILDING THAT WE BUIE ONLY BUILDING THAT WE HAVE ANY F UNUSUAL REQUEST. WE'VE GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS WITE GROUP OF -- THE CONDOMINIUM ASS. IN FACT, OUR BUFFER WITH THEM IR 150.

I THINK IT'S NEARLY 200 FEET. AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE E SINCE WE APPEARED BEFORE YOU WIE LAST YEAR WITH RESPECT TO ZONINE HAVE STRUCK A NUMBER OF USES. WE MET SEVERAL OCCASIONS WITH TE PROPERTY OWNERS, AND WE'VE ELIMA LOT OF USES THAT THEY DIDN'T WAI JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.

SORRY I WENT TOO LONG. >> ANYWAY, I'LL SUM IT UP, JUSTD OF OF FINISH UP.

AGAIN, THIS IS NEEDED. I THINK I'VE GONE THROUGH THE DT THINGS.

WE FEEL THAT THERE IS A HARDSHI. WE DO FEEL LIKE IT MEETS THE SPD THE INTENT OF THE CODE.

IT DOESN'T RESULT IN ANY SAFETY. IT IS NOT TO ANY REQUIRED SETBAR ANY SAFETY ISSUES.

AND WE DO NOT FEEL IT'S CONTRARE PUBLIC INTEREST. SO WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL, E ARE REQUESTING THAT IT BE ABLE N WITH THE LAND, OBVIOUSLY, AND WH THAT -- AND AGAIN THIS IS A VARO

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>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO SEE IF WE Y PUBLIC COMMENTS YET. THEN WE'LL GO AROUND THE BOARD . NO PUBLIC COMMENT, SPEAKER CARD.

DO WE HAVE ANY ONLINE, SIR? >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> SOCK.

THEN WE ARE OUT OF PUBLIC COMME. AND WE ARE GOING TO DO OUR ROUNE WITH OUR ROLL CALL HERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COS FOR THE APPLICANT OR ON THE ITEF WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASG THOSE FORWARD AS WELL AS DECLARY EX PARTE. MR. MATOVINA, YOU'RE FIRST.

>> I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS R COMMENTS. >> NO EX PARTE, SIR?

>> NONE. CORRECT. >> MR. ALAIMO, I'M JUST -- THISE LAST CHANCE, DOUBLE-CHECKING IFE ON. SEEING NOT, MS. PERKINS, ANY QUS

OR EX EX PARTE TO BE DECLARED? >> NO EX PARTE. NO QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. UP NEXT IS ME. I HAVE A QUESTION OR TWO.

FIRST IS FOR STAFF, SECOND -- LE DO THE SECOND ONE FIRST. SO THIS BERM WHICH IS 20 FEET SG DOWN TO THE NORTH, HOW IS THAT ? HOW IS THAT NOT RUNNING OFF INTT NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY?

>> DICK, CHIEF ENGINEERING GROWH MANAGEMENT. THE ENTIRETY OF DRAINAGE FOR THT BUILDING IS ACTUALLY ELECTED SOY IMPERVIOUS AREA THAT EXISTS IS E OF THE CONSTRUCTION IS BEING CAD AND RETURNED TO THE STORM WATER. ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE OFFT SLOPE WOULD HAVE NATURALLY OCCUN THAT FASHION ANY WAY. SLOPES DID NOT CREATE MORE RUNO. THE RUNOFF IS CREATED BY THE ACL INUNDATION GOING ON TO THE LANDN FLOWING OFF, WHICH IT WOULD HAVD IN THAT DIRECTION ANYWAY.

SO WE ARE ESSENTIALLY CAPTURINGG ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN NY PLACED ONTO THAT SITE AND ANYTHT WOULD HAVE OCCURRED PREVIOUSLY L THERE PREVIOUSLY NATURALLY. THE SLOPE NOT REALLY CREATING.

IT COULD POTENTIALLY RUN OFF ATR RATE BUT WE'RE NOT CREATING ANYE WATER.

LIKE IT'S A LESSER AS RUNOFF GON THAT DIRECTION. >> NATURALLY PERCOLATING THERE.

>> YES, SIR. >> AND THEN WHAT'S THE DIFFERENE BETWEEN THE 20B AND THE 30C?

>> THE 20B, OKAY, SO IT TAKES T. A CAN BE A FENCE, IT CAN BE GRAT CAN BE BUSHES, WHATEVER.

THE B ADDS THE TREES THAT HAVE E 10-FOOT HIGH PLACED 20 FEET ON . SO -- AND THEN THE C ADDS TO THD

ADDS THE WALL. >> THE DEFINITE WALL OR -- >> A WALL.

A WALL. IT'S HOW THE CODE READS. SO, AGAIN, JUSTIN CAN ADDRESS T.

HE DOESN'T HAVE THAT IN HIS PRESENTATION. I HAD INCLUDED IT IN MINE.

>> I SAW IT BUT I DIDN'T SEE TH. JUSTIN? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

JUSTIN, GROWTH MANAGEMENT. 30C YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WALL. IT HAS TO BE A ARCHITECTURALLY D WALL. IF IT IS A BRICK WALL, IT NEEDSE PAINTED.

IT HAS TO BE 6 FEET IN HEIGHT. THAT'S BASICALLY YOUR MAIN DIFFE BETWEEN B AND C.

SO YOU INCLUDE A, B WITHIN THATU ADD THE ADDITIONAL WALL TO THAT. >> AND THAT'S A SOLID MASONRY W.

>>> CORRECT. >> NOT A FENCE OR ANYTHING ELSE. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD. MR. WAINRIGHT.

QUOR COMMENT OR EX PARTE? BY WITH A, NO EX PARTE. >> NO EX PARTE.

QUESTIONS. THIS LETTER FROM -- >> MRS. HILBERT?

>> -- SANDRA HOLLBERT. >> SANDRA, YES. >> BRINGS UP A QUESTION OF DRAIT I THINK YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT AE COUNTY'S TALKED ABOUT THAT. THE MAJOR THRUST OF MY INTERESTE VISUAL SCREENING. IS IT EFFECTIVE UNDER WHAT YOU'G FOR HERE AS IT WOULD BE UNDER TE

EARLIER SCREENING? >> THE EARLIER SCREENING WOULD N LESS THAN WHAT THIS SCREENING I.

THE EARLIER SCREENING WOULD HAVT AGAIN THE TREES, BUT IT DID REQ- WE -- THEY WERE PLANNING ON USIA FENCE. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO. THAT'S ONE OF THE CERTAIN THINGT YOU CAN USE. SO, YES, WE FEEL LIKE IT IS. AND AGAIN BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AY YOU WERE STANDING ON THAT EXISTG GROUND, AND I HAVE THIS KIND OF, SO THIS ELEVATION RANGES FROM TR

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AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE BOUNDARY IS TO THE BOTTOM HERE. BASICALLY TO DO A WALL, IT HAS P WITH A FOOTER GOING INTO THE WAE IT. TO DO A 6-FOOT HIGH WALL, YOU HO

HAVE A FOOTER DOWN. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> DR. HILSENBECK? >> WELL, I HAVE SEVERAL COMMENT. EX PARTE FIRST.

I HAVE DRIVEN BY THE SITE. THE FIRST TIME I DROVE BY THE S, BEFORE WE APPROVED THE ITEM BACY AS IT WAS STATED, THE SITE HAD Y BEEN CLEARED. THE SITE WAS LEVEL AT THAT TIMEI RECALL, AND THIS WAS A FLATWOODS NATURALLY COMMUNITY THAT WAS OND IT'S PARTIALLY CALLED FLATWOODSE THEY'RE FLAT TOPOGRAPHICALLY, SS SURPRISED TO SEE ALL THE ELEVATL CHANGE, AND I'M GLAD THAT ARE IN WETSTONE SAID THAT THEY HAD -- MR. WETSTONE SAID THAT THEY HADD CONSIDERABLE FILL ONTO THE PROP, WHICH INDEED THEY HAVE. I DISAGREE WITH THE OTHER GENTLT SPOKE.

I DIDN'T GET HIS NAME, BUT HE WS TALKING ABOUT THE RUNOFF AND ITD HAVE OCCURRED NATURALLY ANYWAY.

I DISAGREE WITH THAT. THIS WAS A FLAT SITE PREVIOUSLYW IT'S GOT CONSIDERABLE TOPOGRAPHF AND SLOPE. AND AS HYDROLOGISTS SAY, WATER S DOWNHILL, SO I JUST DON'T BELIET THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NATURAL PERCOLATION OR RUNOFF FROM A LEL TOPOGRAPHIC SITE ONTO A PROPERTS IS OCCURRING NOW. BUT ACCORDING TO MR. WETSTONE, E TAKEN MEASURES TO REMEDY THAT SN WITH CULVERTS AND SO FORTH. SO I REMEMBER WHEN THIS WAS APPD BACK IN MAY, WE HAD A LOT OF DIN ON THE SCREENING, AND WE WERE AD THE SCREENING WAS GOING TO BE F. IF THEY KNEW THEY WERE GOING TON THIS SITE, I FEEL THEY COULD HAE FORESEEN FROM AN ENGINEERING, A UTILITY -- [INDECIPHERABLE] THESE ISSUES THAT WERE GROWING O COME UP THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M GOING TO VN THIS NOW, BUT IF I DO VOTE FOR S GOING TO BE REDUCTION CAN'T.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY COMMENTS I HT THE MOMENT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. DR. MCCORMICK, COMMENTS, EX PAR. >> WELL, I HAVE NO EX PARTE.

I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. KAREN, STILL GOING BACK TO THE SCREENING, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUE STILL GOING TO HAVE EVER GREEN S 6 FEET HIGH CLOSER TO WHERE THEG IS.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES. THERE WILL BE TWO, TWO LAYERS O,

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEEN THE -- I HAVE THAT UP ON THE -- >> OKAY.

>> SO ACTUALLY -- >> AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS FART YOU WILL HAVE A ROW OF EVER GREY

TREES WHICH ARE NOT LESS THAN T. IS THAT TRUE? >> THAT'S TRUE, YES.

>> OKAY. SO THOSE ARE BOTH GOING TO BE -E NOT -- OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT TH,

BUT THEY WILL BE. >> YES. THAT'S IT FOR ME.

>> THAT SINGE ON THE SCREEN FORE OTHER FOLKS. >> I WAS LOOKING AT IT.

I COULDN'T SEE IT. >> ALL RIGHT ABOUT. >> ARE IN CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD A

QUESTION. >> SURE. >> MS. TAYLOR, YOU INDICATED ATE BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION E MIGHT HAVE BEEN AN ERROR OR MISE EITHER IN THE STAFF PRESENTATIOE

AD REGARDING THE DESCRIPTION OFE PROPERTY? >> NO, NO.

WE DESCRIBED IT DIFFERENTLY. THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL PIECE OF PR. SO LIKE I SAID, I'VE DESCRIBED T

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MORE -- >> YOU DON'T MEAN -- >> I'VE DESCRIBED IT BROADER THT WAS DONE WITH STAFF, SO THEY HAE THE SITE. I INCLUDED THE EASEMENT THAT WEH

IT AS WELL. >> SO MS. TAYLOR, THERE'S A SAMT ORDER FOR THE BOARD THAT INCLUDA LEGAL DESCRIPTION. THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS CORRECS ATTACHED TO THAT?

>> YES, THAT'S THE LEGAL. >> OKAY. AND THAT'S THE DIRECT PARCEL.

>> LIKE I SAID, WHEN I SENT IT E GIS, THEY CHOSE, BECAUSE OF THEL DESCRIPTION, THE DEED INCLUDES E EASEMENT, SO THEY WENT AHEAD AND INCLUDED THE WHOLE EASEMENT AS T TO SHOW YOU ON HERE.

SO WHEN THEY INCLUDED THEIR ADV& AND EVERYTHING, THEY INCLUDED TT EASEMENT.

>> OKAY. >> AND I SHOWED THAT EASEMENT. BUT JUFNS JUSTIN IS SHOWING E

ACTUAL LEGAL DESCRIPTION, WHICHE THE BUILDING AND THE PARKING IS. >> SO, MR. CHAIR, OBVIOUSLY I JT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS BOARD HAA CORRECT ORDER, AND AS I'M UNDERG MS. TAYLOR CORRECTLY, THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION THAT WAS PROVIDED TS BOARD AS PART OF THE DRAFT ORDES ACCURATE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. >> AND IF I MAY JUST --

>> YOU MAY. >> ADD A LITTLE BIT. JUST WITH REGARD TO THE SITE ANE ELEVATION OF THE SITE, IT WAS VY EVIDENT, EVEN FROM THAT TIME PEF HOW HIGH THE SITE WAS GOING TO D ACTUALLY DURING THE ZONING POROD IT MAY HAVE BEEN AFTER WE -- PR, AND IT MAY HAVE BEEN AFTER WE CO PZA, WE DEALT WITH THOSE OWNERSA BIT, AND AS HANK KIND OF MENTIOY PUT IN A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENTS BECAUSE THEY WERE GETTING SOME G FROM THAT CHANGE IN ELEVATION. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE, ANS GOING TO FIND MY PICTURE ALONG E ROADWAY, IT IS IN THE PACKAGE, U LOOK AT STRATTON BOULEVARD AND N BOULEVARD IS HERE, AND YOU LOOKE ELEVATION ON STRATTON, YOU WILLE AGAIN WHAT WE HAD TO DO, AND THS ALL SOME OF THOSE FIRST MAPS I E ACTUALLY FROM THE ZONING APPLIC. SO THAT IS.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNE RUNOFF, AND AGAIN DICK DESOUZA DEFINITELY ADDRESSED THAT, BUT S ONE OF THE REASONS FOR A CHANGEE PLAN AND IN THE WAY THAT THE PLS GOING TO WORK, AND THE VEGETATIG THE TOP OF THAT WAS TO HELP WIT. THE ELIMINATION OF THE WALKWAY T WOULD HAVE GONE AROUND THE BUIL, INSTHEAFD GOT A SMALL PAD SO THT THERE'S MORE PERVIOUS SURFACE ER SUFFERS THERE ALONG THE BACK.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT TO THEF HERE. I THINK MY, ONE IN MY APPLICATIA LITTLE BIT BETTER. SO THAT WAS TO HELP WITH THAT. AGAIN BY STAGGERING THAT, WE FEE BERM, YOU WOULD HAVE FULL-GROWNP THE BERM, AND SO YOU'RE ACTUALLG TO HAVE ALL THAT ROOT ACTIVITY N IN THERE TO KIND OF HELP STABILT AS WELL. THERE IS SOME NATURAL DRAINING T COMES THROUGH THERE. THAT'LL STILL CONTINUE TO. AND AS YOU SAW IN THAT -- IF WEK TO THE DIAGRAM, THERE'S ACTUALLE UNDERGROUND -- AND I'M NOT THE ENGINEER ON THIO I'M JUST GOING BY THE WAY SEE. SO AGAIN, YOU'VE GOTTEAU THAT KF AREA ALL ALONG THOSE DISPREERKSN THOSE TREES, AND AS E TREES GROW THEY'RE GOING TO STAE THAT BERM A LOT BETTER THAN JUSS WOULD. SO WE'VE GOT THAT AREA UP ON TH.

IT KIND OF STOPS THAT AND RUNS . THAT'LL RUN TO THE NORTH AND SO. AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THIS COMIN.

SO I HOPE THAT HELPS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK IN THE A. >> MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> YES. >> THIS IS GREG MATOVINA. COULD I ASK A QUESTION OF STAFF?

>> SURE. >> SO WE ARE BASICALLY THE QUESF WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS A HARD SHA

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>> MR. CHAIR, MIKE, GROWTH MANA. I THINK THE REZONING HAS ALREADY OCCURRED FOR THIS PROPERTY FROMO COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE, SO THEY HE RIGHTS RIGHT NOW TO DO THE TYPES THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO.

I'M NOT SURE LEGALLY THAT WOULDH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, ALTHOUGH E THE IDEA.

I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING. >> RIGHT. MR. CHAIR, BRADLEY BULTHUIS, JUO CONFIRM WITH STAFF THAT, YEAH, Y HAVE THE ALLOWABLE USES BY RIGHM NOT SURE THAT A SPECIAL USE WOUE

NEEDED TO I GUESS FURTHER GRANT ADDITIONAL RIGHTS. >> I GUESS I WOULD SAY THEY DONE THE USE BY RIGHT BECAUSE THEY DT THE SCREENING STANDARD. THAT USE IS CONTINGENT UPON MEEE

SCREENING STANDARD, AND SO I DOE HOW THEY HAVE THE USE BY RIGHT,- >> WELL, NOT TO -- JUST TO INTET WITH THAT, YOU KNOW,, AS THE INT WAS DIFFERENT, BUT AS TIME WENTD HANK REALIZED EVERYTHING THAT H, SO IT WAS A -- IT WAS SELF-CREAN SOME MANNER BECAUSE HE HAD ALREY STARTED THAT BUILDING UNDER THER ZONING, AND HE ALSO FELT THAT I- WE LOOKED AT IT, AND CW WAS ALSG TO BE THE 20 FEET, AND EVEN WENH IT WITH STAFF, AS I SAID, FOR AE ABOUT ACTUALLY A VESTING BASED E FACT THAT THE BUILDING HAD BEEND UNDER CG, BUT STAFF WASN'T COMFE WITH THAT AND SAID, NO, YOU READ A VARIANCE, AND SO AGAIN THAT WS ANOTHER REASON THAT WE'RE KIND E TODAY. THE IDEA OF A SPECIAL USE EVEN , YES, WE DO HAVE THE RIGHTS TO TS IN HALL THOSE ALL THOSE BT NOW FOR THE INDUSTRIAL USE OR TT INDUSTRIAL USE AND THEN TRY TO E THAT IN THE FUTURE, THAT GETS TE DIFFICULT AGAIN WITH THESE KIND.

THEY'RE KIND OF INTERCHANGEABLE. SO AGAIN, WE'RE FEELING THAT WHE DOING IS TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT ADEQUATELY TO ALLOW FOR THE BUFO MEET THE STANDARD OR AS CLOSE TE STANDARDS OR WHAT WE FEEL IS ACY

PREFERABLE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODT AND NOT REQUIRE THAT ADDITIONAL? >> NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING EL.

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AGAIN WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY,, FOR THOUGHTS, COMMENTS, QUESTIOR STAFF, JUST NOT FOR THE APPLICA. OR I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

>> I HAVE -- THIS IS RICHARD HI. I HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT. I WAS JUST WONDERING, AND I DONL THIS SO I'M ASKING STAFF OR THE APPLICANT, WHEN WE APPROVED THIS INITIALLY, I JUST DON'T RECALL E PLANS HAVING A LARGE AMOUNT OF L PLACED ON THE PROPERTY, BUT I ME MISTAKEN, SO WAS THAT PART OF TE

PLANNING AND ENGINEERING THAT WS PRESENTED TO US PREVIOUSLY? >> YES, THE SITE PLAN, AND I BEE THAT MIGHT BE IN YOUR PACKAGE A- I'M TRYING TO THINK -- BUT THE N THAT I SHOWED UP FRONT, I KNOW S TAKES A LITTLE WHILE SOMETIMES H UP, AND IT'S HARD TO SEE. YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE SEEN, THOUGHO

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>> WELL, I WOULD AGREE THAT I CT SEE AN ELEVATIONAL CHANGE FROM W LOOKING DOWN ONTO THE PROPERTY E PLACEMENT OF THE BUILDINGS. THAT CERTAINLY WOULD NOT SHOW W. SO I APPRECIATE THE ANSWER.

THANK YOU. >> AGAIN, I THOUGHT I HAD THE PS WITH ME, BUT I DID HAVE SOME PIS

THAT DID SHOW THAT. >> THANK YOU. WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY YET AG.

WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE -E ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE LIST, . ARCHIE, ANY THOUGHTS?

ANY MOTIONS? >> I HAVE A COMMENT. >> GREAT.

TO THE COMMENT. >> MY CONCERNS ARE ABOUT THE EFN THE NEIGHBORS VISUALLY AND THE .

I RESPECT THE OPINION OF THE FON THE COUNTY AND THE INFORMATION S BEEN PROVIDED HERE.

IN MY EXPERIENCE, THAT SLOPE WIT HOLD, ESPECIALLY THE AMOUNT OF R COMING DOWN OFF THE BUILDING TH, ACCORDING TO THE DRAWING, BUT TN BE TAKEN CARE OF. THE BUFFERING IS TO BE PLANTED .

IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL, IT WILL PROE VISUAL BARRIER. THE ISSUE OF THE DRAINAGE, THE TOPOGRAPHY HAS CHANGED SIGNIFIC, AND WHILE THE FACT THAT I DID NE THE TOPO IN THE ORIGINAL SUB N HERE, I CAN'T -- I CAN'T USE THN EXCUSE FOR MYSELF BECAUSE I'M NI WOULD HAVE PAID ATTENTION TO IT.

THE DRAINAGE IS SIGNIFICANTLY CD HERE, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE AF WATER GOING DOWN A DITCH.

SO WHAT WE'RE LEFT WITH HERE IST SPEND A LOT OF TIME LOOKING INTE FUTURE DOWN THE VECTOR OF TIME E WHAT COMES OUT IN THE FUTURE ANE WAY TO CONTROL THAT, BUT I HOPET THERE WILL BE AN OBLIGATION HERE PART OF THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE ST THIS PLAN WORKS, AND I'M LOOKINA HEAD ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THAT, ANI

APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S THE END OF MY COMMENT. >> JUST TO REITERATE WHAT DICK A SAID, THE WATER FROM THE YISM PE AREA, THE BUILDING AND THE YOU - IMPERVIOUS AREA, THE BID AND THE SIDEWALKS, THAT'S BEING TAKEN VA UNDERGROUND PIPING AWAY TO POND. IT'S NOT RUNNING DOWN THE BACK E BUILDING DOWN THAT SLOPE. THE ONLY THING HITTING THAT SLOE RAIN FROM HEAVENS ABOVE.

AND THAT IS PERKING LIKE IT WOUD NORMALLY PERK IF IT WAS FLAT OR, IN MY OPINIO, AND APPARENTLY INS

OPINION, TOO, SO THAT'S -- >> I DON'T AGREE. >> THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SEVEN THE PEN THIS BOARD. >> I WENT OVER THAT IN MY COMME.

>> ALL RIGHT. AGAIN, OPEN IT UP TO THE AGENCY. ANY MORE COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS OA

MOTION. >> I'LL OFFER A MOTION. >> THANK YOU, MS. PERKINS.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING VARE 2020-21 STRATTON BOULEVARD VARIE BASED ON FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT D

SUBJECT TO SIX CONDITIONS OF ASD IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM MS. PERKS, A SECOND FROM MR. WA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, WE'LL DO A ROLL C. MR. MATOVINA.

>> NO. >> MS. PERKINS. >> YES.

>> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES.

>> DR. HILSENBECK. >> NO. >> DR. MCCORMICK.

>> NO. >> SO WE HAVE A TIE 3-3. LEGAL WANTS TO CHIME IN ON THIS?

>> SURE. MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH A TIE, THAT E A FAIL VOTE ON THE MOTION, AND G ANOTHER MOTION, THE APPLICATIONE A DENIAL. SO IF THIS BOARD COULD ENGAGE IR

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DISCUSSION IF THEY WERE SO INCL, MAKE ANOTHER MOTION IN ORDER TO. >> ALL RIGHT.

LET'S OPEN IT BACK UP TO THE AGR THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS ON OUR TIE NOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE ROY.

>> LET ME ATTEMPT TO START THE DISCUSSION ON A MODIFIED MOTION. THE ISSUE IS VISUAL SCREENING AD DRAINAGE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AA POSSIBLE MODIFICATION WOULD DEAH THOSE TWO ISSUES TO THE SATISFAF

THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. >> WELL, YOU'RE SPEAKING INDIVI, ARCHIE.

>> I KNOW, AND I'M SEEKING TO UD WHERE THE OBJECTIONS ARE. >> MR. CHAIR, IF I AM ABLE TO I.

>> PLEASE DO. >> AGAIN, MIKE ROBERTSON, GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

MAYBE THIS WILL HELP JUST A LITT TO CLARIFY THE WHICH. THE REQUEST IS FOR A VARIANCE TE BUFFER. GOOD QUESTIONS ABOUT DRAINAGE. HOWEVER, DRAINAGE WILL MEET COD.

THAT'S TRUE THROUGH THE CONS. WHAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE TO CONSS WITH REGARD TO THE BUFFER AND TE DISTANCE AND SCREENING WEEK BUTY OPINION, AND IF OCA AGREES, IF E RUNGS THAT AS CONSIDERATION ON E DRAINAGE, THAT'S REALLY TAKEN EXPAIRVETION THAT'S A CODE ISSU. -- CARE OF, AND THAT'S A CODE I.

YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OT THAT'S RELATED TO THIS APPLICAT. I ONLY INDICATE THAT, MR. WAINR,

BECAUSE YOU INDICATED IT. THANK YOU. >> SO POTENTIAL AT THE THREE DI,

IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU FEEL ISE TO WORK AROUND THIS? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MISGREG MATOVI.

I SEE THIS HAS A SELF-IMPOSED HP UNFORTUNATELY, AND UNLESS THERES ANOTHER OPTION FOR A TEMPORARY F THAT BUILDING, I DON'T SEE WHERE PERMANENT WAIVER OR A VARIANCE N ORDER.

>> ALL RIGHT. THAT'S PRETTY HARD AND FAST, TH. DR. HILSENBECK OR DR. MCCORMICK.

>> WELL, I CAN AGREE WITH MR. M, AND I DID LIKE HIS PROPOSED SOLF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

THAT'S NOT A PERMANENT SOLUTIONS ISSUE OF THE BUFFER. >> AND DR. MCCORMICK, ANY COMME?

>> YES, DR. MCCORMICK. I COULD SUPPORT THE SUGGESTIONSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT FIRST GREGD DR. HILSENBECK SAID HE WOULD SUT THAT. I WOULD GO ALONG WITH THAT, ALS.

>> ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE ARE AT AN IMPASSE, SO , AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WOULD CAUSEO WAIT 12 MONTHS, AND THAT'S NOT E THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD OR THE Y FOR THE MOST PART, SO --

>> I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR THL THE MEMBERS, FAMILY I KIND OF DD THIS INTO TWO, SO THERE'S SOMETG ABOUT THE DISTANCE AND THERE'S G ABOUT THE SCREENING SO THERE'S Y TWO ASPECTS TO IT.

AND SO I WOULD JUST KIND OF -- E ANY DIFFERENCE TO THAT? IS THERE ANY DIFFERENT THINGS TE COULD DO ON THE SCREENING? OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T WITH THE DIM, THE 20 FEET.

AND AGAIN, THAT WAS ALL APPROVED EVERYTHING BEFORE. AND SO, YES, I UNDERSTAND MR. MS POINT ON THAT, BUT AGAIN, THAT D BECAUSE OF THE ZONING CHANGE. SO POSSIBLY WITH THE SCREENING R

SOMETHING, THERE'S SOMETHING DIT THAT MIGHT MAKE THEM FEEL BETTE. >> WHAT I'M HEARING, IT'S NOTHIT THE VISUAL OR THE SCREENING. IT'S ABOUT THE IMPOSED HARDSHIPT ALL.

GREG, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHIS TO THAT -- ELSE TO THAT? >> NO.

YOU EXPRESSED IT ADEQUATELY, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> SO --

>> OKAY. I GUESS WE HAVE TO APPEAL IT. >> WE CAN DO THAT OR THIS IS WHD OFFER. WOULD YOU CARE FOR A CONTINUANCE UP WITH SOME OTHER THOUGHTS OR S SPECIAL USE PERHAPS? I'M NOT GOING TO SUGGEST THAT. BUT --

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>> I'M NOT SURE WHAT SOMEBODY MA SPECIAL USE. AGAIN, SPECIAL USES ARE GRANTEDE

OF A CERTAIN THING, SO A SPECIAE DOESN'T AFFECT A BUFFER. >> OKAY.

>> I DON'T THINK. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT MIKE WAS . SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW THAT D WORK. WE'D CERTAINLY TAKE SOME TIME, F THAT'S AN OFFER RATHER THAN GOIG

THROUGH THE APPEAL PROCESS. >> I'D LIKE TO SAY THE FOLLOWIN. WHAT MATTERS HERE IS WHAT'S THER DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 20 AND TS WHEN WHETHER WE PUT A WAREHOUSES VERY LITTLE ACTIVITY IN IT OR WA COMMERCIAL GENERAL OPERATION THS FAR MORE ACTIVITY AND FAR MORE D TRAFFIC.

WHEN WE REDUCED THE ZONING INTEY FROM THE CG TO THE CW, WE DEMONA SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION, IN SOME 5 TO 80 PERCENT REDUCTION IN TRAFD ACTIVITY, SO WHAT WE'RE BASICALG PREVENTED FROM DOING IN THIS 20O 30-FOOT DIFFERENCE IS THE DIFFEE BETWEEN STORING SOMETHING AND R, YOU KNOW, SOME PRETTY INTENSE AS THAT WE COULD DO AT 20 FEET. SO I WOULD JUST REALLY -- I'M DE TO GET THIS DONE, AND I HAVE NOE BUT TO TRY TO OCCUPY THIS BUILD. I'VE BORROWED A LOT OF MONEY TO. IT'S A REAL HARDSHIP.

IT'S A HARDSHIP FOR MY BUSINESS. IT'S A HARDSHIP FOR ME FINANCIA. AND THE ENGINEER SHOULD HAVE SET COMING WHEN WE DID THE SITE PLA. WE TRIED TO MAXIMIZE THE TURNINS FOR VEHICLES AND TRUCKS.

THE SITE COULD HAVE POTENTIALLYN REDESIGNED TO SQUEEZE UP THE LAG TO GET THAT ADDITIONAL 10 FEET.

WE NOTICED AFTER THE FACT, HAVIG ANALYZED IT, BUT I'M JUST TELLI, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT -- THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US. IT'S A REAL HARDSHIP TO ME AND Y COMPANIES AND TO WHAT WE'RE TRYO DO. I JUST WOULD ASK YOU TO LOOK ATT WE'VE DONE IN THIS COUNTY AND CR

IT. THAN YOU. >> AND I KIND OF BROUGHT --

>> MR. CHAIRMAN. >> YES. GO AHEAD, GREG.

>> LET ME ASK A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT. HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE -- IT WAT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PRESENTATI BELIEVE, THAT THIS WAS NEEDED IMMEDIATELY, WHICH IS WHY THE CN USE WAS MADE THAT REQUIRED THE R BUFFER FOR THE APPLICANT'S BUSIS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T DOESN'T HO SORE SOME EQUIPMENT AND MATERIA. THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS ISE APPLICANT WILLING TO THEN BUILDR BUILDING IN THIS DEVELOPMENT ORT BUILDING ONE AND THAT THEY COULH THAT USE FROM THIS BUILDING TO T OTHER BUILDING WHEN THE OTHER BG IS COMPLETED WHERE THE 30-FOOT T REQUIRED, AND WE COULD JUST -- I PROBABLY MADE IT TOO COMPLICATEH THE SPECIAL USE -- WE COULD JUSA VARIANCE FOR A TIME CERTAIN, PE.

PERHAPS SOMEBODY MIGHT MAKE A MN ALONG THOSE LINES. >> CAN I JUST RESPOND BRIEFLY T?

>> SURE. >> THIS PROPERTY, IF YOU HAVE LT IT, THERE ARE TWO RESIDENTIAL P, OPEN RURAL PIECES THAT HAVE -- A RENTED PROPERTY, THE ONE ADJACEE IS A PRESENTED RENTED PROPERTY.

IT'S HAS A TENANT IN IT. IT'S A MOBILE HOME. THE OTHER IS I DOUBLE WIDE, IT'S MANUFACTURED HOUSING. BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES IF YOUO TALK ABOUT A TIME FRAME OF TWO I BELIEVE THEY'RE BOTH GOING TO BE PURCHASED AND DEVELOPED INTO CO, AND IF THEY WERE ANYTHING OTHERE OPEN RURAL THAT THEY ARE NOW, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE HERE REQUESS VARIANCE.

I CAN JUST TELL YOU TIME IS GOIO MAKE THIS DISAPPEAR. IT WILL BE A 20-FOOT REQUIREMENN AS ONE OF THOSE -- AS SOON AS TE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO ME IS SOLDI CAN TELL YOU THAT THE OWNER THAF PROPERTY WANTS TO SELL IT RIGHTD HE'S TRIED TO SELL TO IT ME. SO I MEAN, IT WILL DEVELOP, ANDS

30-FOOT REQUIREMENT WILL GO AWA. >> I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT T OF THE VARIANCE YOU CAN PUT CONS OR SOMETHING ON IT THAT WE COULT THE USES UNDER THE INDUSTRIAL CY VERSUS THAT WHICH MIGHT COME ORD

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BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO THROW OUT E THAT SINCE THE USES THAT HE'S CONSIDERING USING THAT ARE UNDE, AND WAREHOUSING IS NOT UNDER CIS ONLY UNDER IW, BUT SOMETHING LIE MANUFACTURING OR SOME OF THE MOE INTENSE KIND OF USES MIGHT BE M- MIGHT MAKE THEM MORE UNCOMFORTAH THIS, SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION.

IT'S LIMITING THE INDUSTRIAL US. BUT AS HE SAID, I THINK THE CODE ACTUALLY IN SOME WAYS IS A LITTE BACKWARDS BECAUSE THE CI ZONINGE SAME BUFFER AS BASICALLY OR CLOT AS THE CG DOES, YOU KNOW, SO THE VERY INTENSE USES. IT'S GOT PEOPLE, ACTIVITIES IN . AND I UNDERSTAND.

IF YOU WERE DOING A MANUFACTURIG THAT WAS 24 HOURS A DAY OR SOMEG LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE DIFFER.

WE DO HAVE LIMITED USES ON THISE DID LIMIT A LOT OF THE USES IN S WELL AS THOSE IN IW.

I COULD ALSO GO THROUGH THOSE W. >> YOU DO NOT HAVE TO CONVINCE . >> THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A VOTE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN COME BA. SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO OVERRIDET VOTE WITH A VOTE OF ALLOWING TOS

REAPPLY, I GUESS OR -- >> WELL, SO LEGAL NEEDS TO CHIMN HERE.

WHEN A POTENTIAL SOLUTION COULDF THERE IS TOO MUCH GOING ON IN TF WHATEVER THIS SPECIAL USE IS ORT CERTAIN USES, IF THAT NEEDS TO K AND YOU ALL WORK UP THAT AND FIN IT AND GET STAFF APPROVAL ON ITN I'D SAY I'D PROPOSE TO MAKE A MO CARRY THIS FOR A DATE SORIANO WR FOR THE NEXT MEETING OR WHATNOTU ALL CAN WORK OUT THE DETAILS RAN JUST THE STRAIGHT UP-AND-DOWN VD THAT WOULD GIVE YOU SOME TIME I.

DOESN'T GIVE YOU TODAY BUT IT GU PERHAPS A LIGHT AT THE END OF TE TUNNEL, AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY RT

TO WHOMEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO AF THAT WAS AMENABLE TO THEM AS WE. >> THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

>> MR. CHAIR. >> MR. CHAIRMAN. >> HOLD ON, BILL.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU. I THINK, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YU CORRECTLY, I THINK YOU COULD RET CONCLUSION A COUPLE OF DIFFEREN. I THINK BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE PG SIDE ON THE MOTION WAS DENIAL BT WAS A SPLIT VOTE, WE WOULD PROBD A MOTION TO RECONSIDER AND A MON TO CONTINUE TO SOME DATE.

THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO IT. ANOTHER WAY WOULD BE IF THE APPT DID COME BACK WITH ANOTHER VARIE PZA AT THAT TIME COULD SEEK TO E ONE YEAR REQUIREMENT. THAT IS ALLOWABLE UNDER ARTICLEN ORDER TO, IF IT'S NECESSARY, TOT INJUSTICE OR TO FACILITATE THE R DEVELOPMENT COUNTY.

SO EITHER WAY, WITH THAT SECOND, THE VOTE TODAY WOULD STAND AND E APPLICANT WOULD JUST NEED TO COK

WITH A MODIFIED VARIANCE REQUES. >> I LEAVE IT UP TO APPLICANT OT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO.

>> WE WOULD DEFINITELY PREFER TE SOONER. BY THE TIME WE RE-FILE A NEW APN AND STAFF GOES THROUGH IT, WE GH OUR ROUNDS, WE COME BACK, YOU'RG AT ANOTHER FOUR MONTHS, FIVE MOD

THE BUILDING IS READY TO CO. >> HOLD ON FOR JUST A SECOND. WE'LL TO GO BILL HERE.

BILL, WHAT HAVE YOU GOT? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS GOING TOY MAKE A MOTION TO -- TO RECONSIDD

THEN AFTER THAT TO SET A TIME UN TO REHEAR THIS CASE. >> ALL RIGHT.

I GUESS -- >> IF IT TAKES TWO MOTIONS TO D, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THAA

POSSIBILITY. >> THAT IS. WE JUST DISCUSSED IT.

>> YES. SO MY MOTION WOULD BE TO RECONS. AND PART OF THE REASON WHY I'M G THAT MOTION IS BECAUSE WE DON'TA FULL MEMBERSHIP ON THE PZA TODA, EITHER.

I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THAT. >> ALL RIGHT. SO ARE WE AT THAT TIME WHERE --U

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SATISFIED WITH THAT? THAT WORKS FOR YOU? >> YES, PLEASE.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, BECAUSE DR. MCK VOTED -- IT WAS ON THE PREVAIE COULD MAKE THAT MOTION.

IT WOULD NEED A MOTION. THEN A SECOND. >> THE SECOND ONE TO CONTINUE FE

CERTAIN. >> OR A DATE UNCERTAIN. >> OR A DATE UNCERTAIN.

>> THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. >> AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE MOTIS BEEN MADE BY DR. MCCORMICK TO RR

THIS. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECON.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S GO THROUGH THE ROLL CALL . THIS IS THE MOTION TO RECONSIDE.

MR. MATOVINA. >> YES. >> MS. PERKINS.

>> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK. >> NO.

>> DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT.

THAT MOTION CARRIES 5-1. THEN DR. MCCORMICK, YOU'D LIKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS TO A DAE

CERTAIN? >> DATE UNCERTAIN, YEAH. >> DATE UNCERTAIN.

>> OR DATE CERTAIN, I GUESS. >> WHAT'S OUR DATE CERTAIN? >> WHATEVER YOU SAY.

>> I UNDERSTAND WE'VE GOT A PREY AGENDA COMING UP. CAN WE SQUEEZE IT IN FOR NEXT T?

HANG ON FOR JUST A SECOND, FOLK. >> THAT WOULD BE LIKE NOVEMBER I THINK.

>> EITHER WAY, IT MAKES SENSE TT TO THE NEXT ONE REGARDLESS. >> SO THAT DATE CERTAIN WOULD BE

NOVEMBER 5TH. DOES THAT SOUND LIGHTLY TO CALE? >> I THINK THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

>> IS THAT HITE RIGHT, SHERRY? I GOT A NOD FROM SHERRY. NOVEMBER 5TH.

SO, BILL, THAT'S YOUR MOTION, TY IT DATE CERTAIN TO NOVEMBER 5TH. >> YES, A DATE CERTAIN, YES.

>> NOVEMBER 5TH. >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A SECOND FROM MR. WAINR. ALL RIGHT. LET'S DO THE ROLL CALL VOTE OF R

THE DATE CERTAIN OF NOVEMBER 5T. MR. MATOVINA. >> YES.

>> MS. PERKINS. >> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES.

MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK.

>> YES. >> DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> MUCH APPRECIATED.

>> MOVING ALONG, ITEM NUMBER 2. WE HAVE JESSICA TYREE. >> MR. CHAIR, BEFORE THE APPLICS

[Items 2 & 3]

WE HAVE BEFORE US A ZONING VARID A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. I'M GOING TO REALLY TALK ABOUT E ZONING VARIANCE. THE REASON FOR THIS -- BRINGINGP IS STAFF CAME TO SOME INFORMATIR THE PUBLISHING OF THE STAFF REPT THAT'S RELEVANT TO THIS, AND I'T DO THE TOPIC SENTENCE HERE IS S, GROWTH MANAGEMENT STAFF BELIEVET THE ZONING VARIANCE FOR THE PARR RELIEF TO THE PARKING STANDARDST REQUIRED. SO I'LL KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT NO. AND ULTIMATELY I'LL LOOK TO THEO PRESENT THIS TO YOU, OFFICE OF Y ATTORNEY CAN CHIME IN AND THEN N DECIDE ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO W.

SO JUST TO LAY ON IT HERE, BASIY THAT VARIANCE TO ALLOW RELIEF. THIS IS FOR WHAT'S CALLED SAFE R SEAFOOD RIGHT THERE AT THE CREST BEACH, RIGHT NEAR THE PARKING, E PUBLIC PARKING, AND IT'S CLEAR E PARKING STANDARDS, THE PARKING D IN THE CODE IS ONE SPACE TO BE D PER THREE SEATS.

THAT'S THE STANDARD. WE FOUND THAT THROUGH SCSH T I'LL PUT INTO THE RECORD.

THE SEATING WHICH WAS 30 IN '50L THE WAY TO THE '80S WAS OR AT LT CONFIRMED THROUGH DEP WHICH IS E REGULATING AUTHORITY FOR MANY TH RESTAURANTS, WELL WE WERE ABLE O CONFIRM THAT THEY HAD A 125 SEAT CAPACITY. THAT'S ON THE RECORD. THEY HAD 125 SEATS.

SO WITH THAT, WE KNOW THAT PAULE IN, WHICH WAS THE NEXT RESTAURAT CAME IN, AND THEY APPLIED FOR 1S ALONG WITH THE 4C O PAYBACK IN . THEY WERE KENNEDY. SO THAT IMPLIES THAT THEY WENT O 125, WHICH WHAT IS THE APPROVEDG BEFORE FOR POMAR. THIS APPLICANT IS COMING IN WIT0

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SO YOU HAVE A VARIANCE BEFORE Y. IT'S ASKING FOR RELIEF FROM JUSA NON-CONFORMING USE.

IT'S NOT -- IT DOESN'T MENTION Y STANDARDS BEFORE. STAFF'S NEW INFORMATION IS THATS STILL NON-CONFORMING BUT IT'S BR THAN IT WAS FROM THE LAST -- ATT FROM 2010 AND FROM WHAT OUR AGED AUTHORITY AND OFFICIAL DOCUMENTR COVERAGES CONFIRMATION SAID IT . IN THE PAST GROWTH MECHANICMENTS LOOKED AT THOSE TYPES OF ITEMS D RECOGNIZED THAT MAYBE NOT IN THE SCENARIO BUT HAS RECOGNIZED THAD SAID YOU'RE NOT EXACERBATE 10 U. YOU'RE IN CON TOMORROW ANSWER WE NON-CONFORMING PORTION OF OR COH IS ARTICLE 10, THEREFORE, YOU'RD BASICALLY. SO I WANTED TO INTRODUCE THAT AF COURSE, BRAD, PLEASE, IF I'VE MD ANYTHING, CORRECT ME, AND HE CAK MAYBE PROCEDURALLY, BUT AS THE R AND TALKING WITH MY STAFF AND GG THIS INFORMATION HERE AT THE LAT MINUTE, I FEEL THAT I DON'T THIS VARIANCE IS NECESSARY, SPECIAL E PERMIT IS, OF COURSE, NECESSARYT BASED ON WHAT I TOLD.

>> YOU NUMBER 2, IN YOUR OPINIOO LONGER NECESSARY. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO TO PUT IT A SLIGHTLY DIFFERE, IF WE HAD HAD THIS INFORMATION T WAS ON THE BOARD'S AGENDA, WE PY WOULD NOT HAVE PUT ON IT BOARD', BUT WE LEARNED THIS INFORMATION YESTERDAY, AND SO IT'S ON THE A. IT'S THE BOARD'S DISCRETION TO E FORWARD WITH IT OR NOT OR TO ACA WITHDRAWAL OF THE APPLICATION O, AND THAT'S REALLY THE REQUEST BU ALL, WOULD BE TO WITHDRAW THIS , REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA. MIKE'S INFORMATION IS BACKGROUNE NOT ASKING FOR THIS BOARD TO NEY IND THAT IT IS OR ISN'T A NON-CONFORMITY, BUT THAT'S THE T FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT.

>> SO TO SAY IT ANOTHER WAY, ITA NON-CONFORMITY. WE'RE NOT INCH CREENGS I.

IT WOULD NOT HAVE COME BEFORE UD THIS INFORMATION BEEN KNOWN, THL RECOMMENDATION IS JUST TO RECOMD

WITHDRAWAL OF ITEM NUMBER 2 BECT WOULD BE A MOOT POINT. >> RIGHT.

IT'S A NON-CONFORMITY BUT IT'S L NON-CONFORMITY BECAUSE EVE INDIS THAT IT PREDATES THE PARKING RESTRICTIONS AT THIS RATIO OR RY A GREATER NON-CONFORMANCE THAN S PROPOSED HERE.

SO I THINK I HEARD A MOTION. >> MOTION WITHDRAWN TO WITHDRAW. >> SECOND.

>> AND AS DISCUSSED, THIS IS RET FOR THE RECORD. THIS IS THE DOCUMENT FROM 2010 T UTILITIES DOCUMENTED FROM DEP I0 DATING THAT BASICALLY THIS IS IG THAT PO MAR HAS HAD 125 SEATS BE THEY WERE TRYING TO CONFIRM WHAS THERE BEFORE SO THEY COULD KNOWT PAULA'S WANTED TO DO.

ADDITIONALLY, HERE'S SOME CORREE TODAY FROM THE UTILITY DEPARTMET INDICATES ALSO THAT THE UTILITY, AS SOON AS IT WAS CLOSED FROM P, SAFE HARBOR OPENED ONE, AND WE E THOSE TYPES OF INFORMATION TO DE WHETHER THERE WAS NO GAP AFTER S CLOSED AND IT WAS COYS DISCONTIR A YEAR.

IT WAS CLEAR AS SOON AS PAULA'SD THIS WAS COMING IN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT. ANYTHING THAT SPEEDS UP THE AGEM CERTAINLY HAPPY WITH. JUSES KIDDING. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AY TO WITHDRAW ITEM NUMBER 2. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONY OF THE AGENCY MEMBERS? HEARING NONE, I THINK THAT HAS N EXPLAINED WELL ENOUGH. WE'LL DO THE ROLL CALL VOTE.

AGAIN, THIS IS TO WITHDRAW ITEM NUMBER 2. MR. MATOVINA.

>> YES. >> MS. PERKINS. >> YES.

>> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MR. WHAIRN. >> WAINRIGHT.

>> YES. >> DR. >> YES.

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>> DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES. >> FOR THE RECORD, WHO MADE THA?

IS THAT YOU, DR. MCCORMICK. >> I THOUGHT I DID. >> GREG MATOVINA.

>> GREG. AND WHO WAS THAT SECOND? >> I DID.

>> THAT MUST BE DR. MCCORMICK. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, AND LADY,W WE'RE ONTO ITEM NUMBER 3, WHICHE HARBOR SEAFOOD AGAIN. GOOD AFTERNOON. YOU MUST BE JESSICA.

>> I AM JESSICA TYREE. 13966 SOUND OVER LOOK DRIVE NOR, JACKSONVILLE 32224.

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR REQUE. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A PROPERTY ELECTED 6896 A1A SOUTH IN ST. A. WE ARE REQUESTING A SPECIAL USET TO ALLOW FOR THE SALE OF BEER AE ONLY. A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION. THIS LOCATION WAS PREVIOUSLY A RESTAURANT THAT SOLD BEER. THE NEW OWNER INFORMATION, THISA PROPERTY THAT WAS PURCHASED BY E HARBOR PROPERTIES PRESTON BEACHN FEBRUARY OF 2019 CHRIS LUTEON OE OWNERS ALSO OWNS AND OPERATES SE HARBOR SEAFOOD IN MAYPORT. THIS LOCATION HAS BEEN A THRIVIG BUSINESS SINCE 2013.

MR. WOODEN AND HIS FAMILY ALSO D OPERATE SLIDERS OYSTER BAR IN NE BEACH WHICH HAS BEEN A COMMUNITE IN THIS AREA FOR MANY YEARS AS . SINCE PURCHASING THIS PROPERTY,Y HAVE DONE MANY, MANY IMPROVEMENE PROPERTY AND INCLUDING UPGRADINE BATHROOMS TO BE ADA ACCESSIBLE. THEY HAVE INSTALLED AN ENTIRELYW ELECTRICAL SYSTEM, NEW AIR COND, NEW PLUMBING, NEW FLOORING, WALD PAINT, NEW EXTERIOR, LANDSCAPIN, ASPHALT IN THE PARKING LOT. THEY HAVE ALSO INSTALLED A END E GREASE TRAP AND DISCONTINUED USE SHARED SEPTIC SYSTEMIN AND STALW ONE TO MAKE THE RESTAURANT SELF-SUFFICIENT AND ABLE TO HANE VOLUME. THEY HAVE ALSO CONNECTED TO THEY WATER, SO PROBABLY WILL TAKE CAA LOT OF MAYBE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSU. THESE ARE JUST SOME PHOTOS OF TE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADT YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN SEE THAT THEYE PAINTED THE BUILDING AS WELL. THE ASPHALT, THE NEW LANDSCAPIN.

THIS IS JUST A DIFFERENT VIEW OE IMPROVEMENTS. THE REQUEST IS FOR A SPECIAL UST TO ALLOW ON-SITE SALES AND CONSN OFFAL CHOIC BEVERAGES UNDER THEF FLORIDA TYPE 2 KOPF LICENSE WHIS BEER AND WINE PURSUANT TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 2. 03.02 IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXG RESTAURANT. SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CODE,E ARE NO NEARBY CHURCHES OR SCHOOT WOULD REQUIRE A VARIANCE. ALSO IT'S LOCATED IN CG ZONING , AND WILL ONLY BE SERVING BEER AE UNDER THE 2COP LICENSE. JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE BACKD WITH THE EXIEWNT SUPPORT, WE HAE RECEIVED SEVERALMENTS OF SUPPORM THE COMMUNITY AND SURROUNDING N. WE ARE A FAMILY ESTABLISHMENT.

WE'RE WORKING TO ENHANCE THE COY BY OFFERING FRESH LOCAL SEAFOODN BE ENJOYED IN A FAMILY ATMOSPHE.

WE ALSO BEEN ESTABLISHING OURSEN THE COMMUNITY BY SUPPORTING THET BEACH TURTLE PATROL, SO THEY CRD DISPLAY SIGNS ON CRESCENT BEACHT SEA TURTLE AWARENESS, SO WE HAVE SPONSORED ONE OF THOSE SIGNS TO ESTABLISH OURSELVES IN THE COMM. AND IN CLOSING, WE WOULD LIKE TK YOU AGAIN FOR CONSIDERING OUR R, AND WE ARE HOPING TO ESTABLISH N THE COMMUNITY AS WE HAVE IN OTHR COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE SERVEDE

SERVING. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE MIGHT HAVE YOU BACK UP HERE R COMMENTS. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER C?

>> NO, SIR. >> DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKES ONLINE?

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TI. >> ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CLOSE OUT PUBLIC COMMENT E IT OPEN TO THE INDIVIDUAL BOARD. WE'LL GO THROUGH A ROLL CALL FOY EX PARTE DECLARE AS WELL AS COMS OR QUESTIONS. MR. MATOVINA. YOU'RE UP FIRST.

>> NO EX PARTE, MR. CHAIRMAN, AO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU.

MS. PERKINS. >> NO EX PARTE, COMMENTS OR QUE. >> MR. KOPF KOPPENHAFER HAS R

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QUESTIONS. MR. WAINRIGHT. >> NO EX PARTE.

>> THANK YOU, DR. HILSENBECK. >> CONCERNING EX PARTE I DROVE E SITE AIFS PROBABLY 50 TIMES BEFD GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS IS A RD ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE DIFFICUS RESTAURANTS HAVE BEEN FACING OVE

PAST EIGHT MONTHS, I INTEND TO R THIS. >> THANK YOU.

DR. MCCORMICK. >> I ALSO HAD EX PARTE. I ACTUALLY WENT INTO THE RESTAUD THE ASSISTANT MANAGER WAS THERED SOMEONE ELSE WHO WAS JUST HANGID TALK TO THEM BRIEFLY, ASKED THET WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO OPEN. THEY SAID MAYBE A MONTH OR SO. DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE PA MEETING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT T. THEN I DID -- I THOUGHT THE PARG ISSUE WAS GOING TO BE ON THE AGA TODAY, SO I WAS TRYING TO FIGURW ARE THEY GOING TO DEAL WITH THA, BUT THEY HAD TEN PARKING SPOTS E DISABLED PARKING PLUS A DEAL WIE SURF SHOP FOR FIVE MORE STARTIN0 IN THE EVENING, SO THAT WAS GOIO MAKE 20. SO THEN I'M THINKING, WELL, TONA ACROSS THE STREET HAS ALL THAT T LOT WITH ALL THOSE PARKING SLOT. ANYWAY, MAKE A LONG STORY SHORTT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT, SO I'M PROBABLY -- I AM GOING TO VOTE S MOTION AS WELL. THAT'S THE END OF MY COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT BRIEF COMT THERE. ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NO QUESTIONS FOR THE APP. YOU'RE WELCOME TO TAKE A SEAT. ALL RIGHT.

I'M WILLING TO HEAR ANY MORE COR A MOTION. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

>> PLEASE DO. >> MOTION TO APPROVE SUPMAJ 202E HARBOR SEAFOOD RESTAURANT, 2COPT

TO 11 CONDITIONS AND EIGHT FINDF FACT AS PROVIDE IN THE STAFF RE. >> SECT?

>> >> MR. WAINRIGHT SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

DO THE ROLL CALL VOTE. MR. MATOVINA. >> YES.

>> MS. PERKINS. >> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES.

MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK.

>> YES. >> AND DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD LUCK. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 4, MOVING ALONG HER.

[4. MINMOD 2020-11 Anthony Residence Pool and Pool Enclosure. ]

OUR APPLICANT IS ALLEN AND ANTH. >> BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH THIS JUA MOAT.

I DO SEE AN ERROR IN THE STAFF T UNDER THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFE REVIEW.

THAT INCLUDES THE STANDARDS FORA SPECIAL USE PERMIT WHEN IT SHOUD REFLECT THE STANDARDS FOR A MINR MODIFICATION AND VARIANCE. YOU HAVE THAT ELSEWHERE IN THE F REPORT, BUT JUST SO WE DON'T HAY

CONFUSION. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU.

GLARCH GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN. HOW ARE YOU?

>> I'M VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. >> GOOD. MR. WAINRIGHT AND THE REST OF TE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND STAFF,E IS MIGNON ANTHONY, AND MY HUSBAN WHO IS HERE WITH ME AND MYSELF T 161 MEADOW CROSSING DRIVE. AND WE'RE HERE THIS AFRICAN TO T OUR APPLICATION FOR A MINOR MODN FOR THE PUD TO OUR DEVELOPMENT. I'VE GONE BACKWARDSYOU MISSED A. SO OUR MINOR MODIFICATION REQUEO ALLOW A 5-FOOT SETBACK IN LIEU E 7-1/2 FOOT REQUIREMENT TO ACCOMA SMALL RELAXATION AND THERAPEUTI, TO ALLOW A 3-FOOT SIDE SETBACK U OF THE 5-FOOT REQUIREMENT TO ACE THE POOL DECK AND SCREENED DISC.

THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP, OF CO, WHICH SHOWS THAT WE ARE APPROXI1 MILE WEST OF ROUTE 1 SOUTH OFF N ROAD. ZONING MAP DESIGNATING THE RESIB AREA.

AND -- >> MR. CHAIRMAN, SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION.

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COULD WE TAKE LIKE A TWO-MINUTE- >> RECESSSOME. >> -- RECESS WE'LL REAL QUICK SN

GET THE RIGHT PRESENTATION PULL. >> WE'LL TAKE A TWO-MINUTE ALL RIGHT.

WE'VE GOT OUR TECHNICAL DIFFICUS STRAIGHTENED OUT AND WE ARE REAO BACK TO YOUR APPLICATION, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU. OKAY. SO STARTING OVER, OUR MINOR MODN REQUEST TO THE PUD OF DEERFIELDS IS TO REQUEST THE 5-FOOT SIDE YD SETBACK IN LIEU OF THE 7-1/2 FOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT AND A 3-FOOE YARD SETBACK IN LIEU OF A 5-FOOK TO ACCOMMODATE THE POOL DECK AN.

SO I'VE GONE THROUGH THESE BUT O THROUGH THEM AGAIN. WE'RE ABOUT A MILE WEST OF ROUTH ON WATSON ROAD. WE ARE IN THIS RESIDENTIAL B ZO. AND ON THE ZONING MAP WE ARE SHE PUD IN ITS APPROPRIATE LOCATION. AND THEN ON THE AERIAL MAP WE'RE INDICATING THAT OUR HOME IS LOCN THE FIRST STREET INSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT DEERFIELD MEADOWS OS CROING DRIVE.

WE'RE AT THE END OF THE STREET A CORNER LOT AS SHOWN IN THIS SLID WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TWO FRONT FD TWO SIDE FACES BECAUSE OUR SOUTE FACES THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AROE CORNER.

SO WE HAVE TWO SIDE FACING FRON. AT THE RAFFERTY HOUSE THERE'S AO THE COMMON AREA WHICH IS AFTER E RESPECTER LOOKED AT IT IS ABOUTT WHICH ALSO SERVES AS THE COUNTYS UTILITY EASEMENT FOR THE RETENT.

SO THIS IS OUR SITE FACING NORTO SOUTH. AND AS YOU'LL SEE, FROM THIS DIM FROM THE SURVEY MAP, IT SHOWS RY WHAT'S DRIVING OUR REQUEST. OUR HOUSE IS CENTRALLY SITUATEDE SITE. IT ACTUALLY SITS BACK FROM THE T APPROXIMATELY 10 TO 15 FEET FURN OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST ALONGW CROSSING DRIVE. AND I HAVE A DIAGRAM FROM THE SF REPORT WHICH SHOWS THAT. SO IT SHOWS THE SETBACK OF OUR , CREATING THIS SHALLOW AREA, DIFT FROM THE OTHER HOUSES TO THE EAN MEADOW CROSSING DRIVE. SO IT RESULTS IN A MUCH SHALLOWR YARD AREA AND PLACES US CLOSER E PROPERTY LINE. THE FOLLOWING SLIDES WE HOPE WIL PROVIDE A CLEAR PICTURE OF THE E FOR OUR REQUEST AND SHOW THAT W. WOULD STILL MAINTAIN THE INTENTD AND WHAT WOULD BE IN THE BEST UE PUBLICSO WE'VE TURNED THIS SURVD BECAUSE THE REST OF MY SLIDES WL REALLY FOCUS ON THE SOUTH SIDE E SITE WHERE THE REQUEST IS BEINGD FOR.

AND SO WE'LL FOCUS ON THE SOUTHF THE HOUSE TOWARD THE PROPOSED PL PROJECT.

SO THIS IS A SLIDE, THE SHADED A SHOWING OUR HOME STRUCTURE, THE EXISTING LANAI, AND THIS DIAGRAS PRODUCED BY OUR POOL VENDOR WHEE FIRST INQUIRED ABOUT HAVING A SL INSTALL LAST YEAR IN OUR HOME.

WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE IN SEPTEMBEF 2019, AND WE STARTED LOOKING ATE POSSIBILITY, BUT WE KNEW THAT TA VERY SMALL AREA AND IT WOULD HAE A VERY SMALL POOL. THE PROPERTY LINE IS AT THE TOPS DIAGRAM. THE TWO MEASUREMENTS POINTING TE PROPERTY LINE ARE THE ESTABLISHY SETBACKS. A POOL MUST MEASURE, AS YOU PROY KNOW, 7-1/2 FEET TO WATER'S EDGA

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THE DECK AND THE SCREEN CLOSH SE THE SAME REQUIREMENT. THE ORIGINAL POOL DESIGN PROPOST THE POOL AS CLOSE TO THE HOUSE S POSSIBLE. THIS 3-FOOT DISTANCE SASS CLOSEE CAN BE TO OUR STRUCTURE, TO THE FOUNDATION WITHOUT, OF COURSE, COMPROMISING AND IMPACTING THE .

BUT WHAT THIS RESULTED IN IN THE RECTANGULAR AREA REPRESENTS THES A VERY SMALL, VERY NARROW AREA,E REALLY JUST SHELVED THE PROJECT. WE JUST SAID, FORGET IT. WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO A POOL.

AND THEN AFTER COVID-19 AND THEE PERIOD AND BEING IN THE HOUSE AT TIME, WE WENT BACK TO THE VENDOD THEM IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THEYD DO, AND THEY SUGGESTED THAT WE T COUNTY ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OFS VARIANCE. SO HERE WE ARE. WE COULDN'T SHIFT THE POOL ANY O THE HOUSE. HERE'S THE PROPERTY LINE. HOWEVER, THE DISCUSSION IN TALKH THE VENDOR AND TALKING WITH STAE ARE REQUESTING THAT IF THAT DISE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE WS EDGE COULD BE SHORTENED TO 5 FED THE CLOSURE THAT WOULD PROVIDE Y 3 FEET INSTEAD OF 5 FEET IS ON E ENCLOSURE, THAT WE WOULD GAIN SL FEET IN TERMS OF THE WIDTH OF TL AND PROVIDE AN ASSET THAT YOU CD INVEST IN AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE IY USABLE. SO WE COULDN'T SHIFT THE POOL A CLOSER. STAFF WAS SUPPORTIVE IN GENERALT COULD BE DONE.

AND A FEW OF THE NEXT ITEMS, THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE HOUSE WILL GU AN EVEN CLEARER LOOK AT WHAT THE PROPERTY SITUATION IS. SO THIS IS THE EAST VIEW FROM MW CROSSING DRIVE TOWARD THE POND E VERY BACK. THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE 20-FON AREA.

THIS IS THE WESTERN VIEW TOWARDM THE EAST OF OUR HOUSE LOOKING WO MEADOW CROSSING DRIVE.

AND THIS IS A VIEW FROM OUR EXIG COVERED LANAI TOWARD THE 20-FOOO THE HOUSE WHICH AS NOW, SINCE WN THIS APPLICATION, HAS BEEN BUIL. IT SHOWS THE SITE OF OUR NEIGHBS AT THE OTHER SIE OF THAT COMMON.

THESE ARE SOME RENDERINGS OF WHE FINISHED PROJECT WOULD LOOK LIKU APPROVE THE REQUEST.

WE HAVE -- WE DO HAVE THE APPROF THE HOA CONTINGENT UPON YOUR AP. AND WE ACTUALLY TALK TO THREE OR NEWER NEIGHBORS IN THE LAST COUF MONTHS. SEVERAL MORE PEOPLE HAVE COME ID THE PUBLIC SIGN HAS GONE UP, SOE HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS, AND SO EVS IN FAVOR.

NOBODY REALLY HAS ANY OBJECTION. AND SO WE'RE HERE TO ASK YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND THANK YOU VEH

FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH PUBLC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE IN YOU PUBLIC SPEAKE? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS ?

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TI. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HEARING THAT, WE ARE OUT OF PUBC COMMENT. AND ON TO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTSE APPLICANT.

I WILL GO THROUGH THE ROLL CALL. MR. MATOVINA. AND EX PARTE AS WELL.

>> NO EX PARTE, BUT I WOULD ASKE APPLICANT TO PLEASE GIVE US A GD HARDSHIP EXPLANATION HERE BECAUI

BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO -- THE VARIN TERMS OF THE HARDSHIP. >> THE HARDSHIP IS THAT WE CANND ANY CLOSER TO THE HOUSE. WE'RE RIGHT THERE AT THE LIMIT T WE CAN DO FROM A FOUNDATION STA, AND SO IN ORDER TO CREATE -- I'O THAT PHOTOGRAPH. HERE WE ARE.

IF WE MAINTAIN THE VARIANCE -- , IF WE MAINTAIN THE -- IF WE WERE BUILDING WITHIN THE SAME DISTANT THE ZONING REQUIRES, THE WIDTH E POOL WOULD BE 4.2 FEET. IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN HAVE EVENH

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HARDSHIP. >> ALL RIGHT. GREG, DO YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW-UP?

>> NO, THAT'S ALL I NEEDED. THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

MS. PERKINS. THOUGHTS, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? EX PARTE?

>> NO EX PARTE. NO QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU.

MR. KOPPENHAFER, I HAVE NO QUESR EX PARTE. MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> NO EX PARTE. I WANTED TO KNOW, DID YOU HAVE E YOUR NEIGHBORS TO GET THEM TO SS

IS OKAY BY INVITING THEM OVER TR POOL? >> NO BRIBES.

[LAUGHTER] >> OKAY. >> I'LL DO THE JOKES HERE.

DR. HILSENBECK. >> I HAVE NO EX PARTE. I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE TWO FROS IS A CONSIDERATION. THEY HAD TO BECAUSE OF THE CURVE ROAD. THEY HAD TO PUSH THEIR HOUSE BAE SOUTH AWAY FROM THE STREET.

THAT MADE THEIR BACKYARD SMALLE. I THINK THAT MIGHT ALSO POSSIBLY AS A HARDSHIP, ALTHOUGH I DON'TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT. AND THE FACT THAT THEIR BACKYARS UP TO THE 20-FOOT OR EVEN GREATN AREA AND UTILITY EASEMENT I THIN THEIR FAVOR. IT'S NOT BACKING RIGHT UP TO SOY ELSE'S PROPERTY. AND THE FACT THAT THEY'VE GOT TA APPROVAL I THINK IS IMPORTANT.

SO I INTEND TO VOTE FOR THIS. >> THANK YOU, DR. -- I'M SORRY. DR. MCCORMICK.

>> . DR. MCCORMICK, ARE YOU STILL TH? >> YEAH, I AM.

YOU CAN HEAR ME? >> I CAN HEAR YOU. >> NO EX PARTE.

NO QUESTIONS. AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW NO . >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO KICK IT O THE AGENCY THEN. ANYONE CARE TO MAKE ANY -- ARE Y OTHER COMMENTS OR MOTIONS TO BE

DECLARED? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD JUMN HERE, DEPENDING ON HOW THE BOARS INCLINED TO MOVE, I DID WANT TOT AN ADDITIONAL FINDING THAT REFLE BOARD'S FINDING IF IT WERE TO MN FAVOR REGARDING HARDSHIP. YOU'LL SEE THERE'S NOT ONE PROPN THE SAMPLES.

SO I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT A G BE ADDED REFLECTING THAT IF THED MOVES IN FAVOR, THAT THERE IS CT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO SUPPORTE FINDING OF A HARDSHIP AND THAT T CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC INTERESTT

THE VARIANCE. >> ARE YOU SAYING THE HARDSHIP E FACT THAT THERE'S TWO FRONT ANDO

SIDE, NO REAR SETBACKS? >> I'M NOT MAKING A CONCLUSION Y OR THE OTHER, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THAT'S, OF COURSE, FOR THIS BOAO DECIDE WHETHER THERE'S A HARDSHI JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE S

LANGUAGE TO REFLECT WHATEVER THS DECISION MIGHT BE ON THAT TOPIC. >> ALL RIGHT.

AGAIN, BACK TO THE AGENCY MEMBE. I'LL TAKE ANY DISCUSSIONS OR ANY MOTIONS.

>> I WILL OFFER A MOTION. AS IT STANDS ONLY BECAUSE I'M AF THE COMPLEXITY OF THE ADDITION,E

ADDITIONAL HARDSHIP. I'M NOT SURE OF ALL THE IMPLICA. >> WHAT MIGHT BE THAT MOTION?

>> I'D OFFER A MOTION TO APPROVD 2020-11 ANTHONY RESIDENCE POOL L ENCLOSURE, REQUEST FOR A MINOR MODIFICATION TO THE DEERFIELD MS PUD ORDINANCE 2004-20 AS AMEND W FOR A 5-FOOT SIDE YART SETBACK U OF THE 7-1/2 FOOT REQUIREMENT TO ACCOMMODATE PLACEMENT OF A POOLO ALLOW A 3-FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACU OF THE 5-FOOT REQUIREMENT TO ACE A PLACEMENT OF A DECK AND FOOL ENCLOSURE, SPECIFICALLY LOCATED1 MEADOW CROSSING DRIVE BASED ON X FINDINGS OF FACT AND SUBJECT TOX CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE SF

REPORT. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THE APPROVS IT'S WRITTEN. >> IT'S UP TO THE BOARD TO MAKES

MOTION IF THEY'RE NOT INCLINED T MY LANGUAGE, THAT'S FINE. >> NO HARD FEELINGS, I'M SURE.

>> I'M SUGAR IT'S HELPING. I JUST HAVEN'T THOUGHT IT THROU. >> AFTER ARCHIE SAID THAT ENTIR.

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>> YES. >> MS. PERKINS. >> YES.

>> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES.

>> DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES. >> DR. MCCORMICK.

>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 6-0.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT REC. WE STILL HAVE FOUR THINGS ON THA SO WE NEED TO MOVE IT ALONG, LET

FOR >> AND THERE ARE SEVERAL CAR DES IN THIS AREA.

[5. MAJMOD 2020-04 Old Moultrie Bluff PUD.]

YOU CAN SEE ON THE AERIAL PHOTOH THAT ACTUALLY HORIZONTAL IMPROVS HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE SITE BECAE PUD HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE ABO6 OR '7 AS THE CASE MAY BE, 2007-D SO THE PUD WAS APPROVED IN THAT.

IT WAS FOR 119 CONDOMINIUM UNITD THE THEN DEVELOPER STARTED THE HORIZONTAL CONSTRUCTION WITHIN E PROPERTY AND THEN CAME THE BIG N OF 2008 AND '9, AND SO THE PROJT CONSTRUCTION HALTED.

AND IN THAT TIME PERIOD THE PUD. SO NOW WE ARE SEEKING A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO REVIVE THAT PUDO UPDATE IT FROM 119 CONDOMINIUM O 119 TOWNHOME UNITS FOR A NUMBERF REASONS.

ONE IS TOWNHOME UNITS ARE OWNERD SO ARE CONDOMINIUMS BUT THEY'REE SIMPLE, AND THERE ARE PROBLEMS H CONSTRUCTION AND LITIGATION INVG CONDOMINIUMS, AND SO IT'S JUST R PRACTICE IN MY LEGAL OPINION TOO TOWNHOMES. -- THEY WILL RETAIN THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT WHICH AGAN INCLUDES THE PREVIOUSLY INSTALLD INFRASTRUCTURE. IT IS IN THE GROUND.

OF COURSE, THAT WILL BE UPDATEDT CODE AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WS PROPERLY FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, MR. WAINRIGHT, ANDN AGAIN TO REVIVE THE PUD AND EXTE PROJECT COMMENCEMENT AND COMPLEN DATES. AND SO YOU WILL SEE THIS IS THER DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

HERE'S OLD MOULTRIE. YOU SEE THE ROADS ARE EXACTLY AY ARE TODAY USING THE SAME INFRAS.

THIS IS A WETLAND THAT EXISTS OE EASTERN PART OF THE PROPERTY THL REMAIN IN PLACE AND HAVE THE APE BUFFERS. I WILL NOTE THAT WE DID RECEIVEC COMMENT FROM MR. BENNETT WHO APY OWNS PROPERTY ALONG US-1 TO THEF THE SITE, AND HE SAYS THAT HE IT AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT BUT HE D LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT JEENG. AND SO JUST -- SCREENING. JUST NOTE THAT THERE IS THIS EXE WETLAND WHICH IS VEGETATED TO RE THE MORE THAN REQUIRED SCREENINR NOISE AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF ST GOES ON. AND SO UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUES, THAT'S MY ABBREVIATED PRESENTATE

I KNOW TIME IS VALUABLE AND THES GOING AWAY. >> I LOVE IT.

THANK YOU, ELLEN. LET'S DO THIS PROPERLY. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER C?

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS ? >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY.

CAN YOU COMMENT THAT WE RECEIVEE CALL -- WE SEE ONE CALL WAITING, SIR.

THERE SEEMS TO BE ZERO. >> THAT WAS THEM, MR. CHAIRMAN. THAT WAS -- THE NUMBER YOU SAW S

STAFF. >> OH, ALL RIGHT. THANKS, ARCHIE.

OKAY. WE'RE OUT OF PUBLIC SPEAKING, AO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE AT

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>> NO EX PARTE. NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU.

MS. PERKINS. >> NO EX PARTE. NO QUESTIONS.

>> MR. KOPPENHAFER HAS NO EX PAD NO QUESTIONS. MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> YES. I HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE NO EX PARTE.

DURING THE TIME FROM THE TIME TS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED AND NOW, CN TRAFFIC, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACTS?

ANYTHING LIKE THAT OF SIGNIFICAT YOU KNOW ABOUT? >> YOU'RE TALKING FROM 2007?

>> YES. >> THERE WAS A TRACK OF STUDY, - A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT SHOULD BE R PACKAGE THAT WAS DONE BY MR. SID SO ALL OF THAT WAS REANALYZED AS TRAFFIC IMPACTS, UTILITIES AND F THAT. THIS IS IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTYY AREA.&

>> DOES THE COUNTY HAVE ANY COMN THAT? >> MR. CHAIR, I'M NOT EXACTLY S,

MR. WAINRIGHT, WHAT WOULD YOU LO COMMENT ABOUT ON THE TRAFFIC CH? >> IMPACTS, TRAFFIC, ANY MORE IS THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THERE ATT TIME. IN THE TIME THAT'S PASTE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, JAHN WITH GRH MANAGEMENT. OBVIOUSLY TRAFFIC HAS INCREASEDN MOULTRIE ROAD. THERE IS A DEFICIENT LINK THAT'S IMPACTED AND THERE WILL BE A PROPORTIONATE SHARE REQUIRED ANE WORKING THROUGH THAT THROUGH THL CONCURRENCY REVIEW.

THE SCHOOL CAPACITY, THERE'S NO PROPORTIONATE SHARE REQUIRED ONE SCHOOL SIDE OF THAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> SATISFIED?

ALL RIGHT. DR. HILSENBECK, EX PARTE OR QUE. >> EX PARTE.

YES, I DID DRIVE BY THE SITE. SOME COMMENTS. WE ALL CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED IN THE GREAT RECESSIONY THE BUILDER DIDN'T MOVE AHEAD WS PROJECT, SO THAT'S CERTAINLY UNDERSTANDABLE. ALSO, THIS IS ALREADY A MIXED UE DISTRICT.

ALSO, THE 66 STUDENTS THAT ARE O BE GENERATED BY THIS, I LOOKED L THE SCHOOLS, ELEMENTARY, MIDDLEL AND HIGH SCHOOL, AND OTIS MASON ELEMENTARY, GAMBLE ROGERS MIDDLL AND MENENDEZ HIGH SCHOOL DO NOTR TO BE OVERCAPACITY, SO THAT'S NN ISSUE. SO I INTEND TO SUPPORT IT.

>> THANK YOU, DR. MCCORMICK. >> I DID VISIT THE SITE, ALSO, S MY EX PARTE.

I HAVE NO QUESTIONS AND NO COMM. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE OF . MS. APPLICANT? >> NO, SIR.

>> BACK IN THE AGENCY THEN. NO MORE QUESTIONS. BACK IN THE AGENCY, ANYONE CAREE

A MOTION? >> MR. WAINRIGHT? >> IF NO ONE ELSE IS SPEAKING UL OFFER A MOTION. MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OFR MOD 2020-04 OLD MOULTRIE BLUFF ,

BASED UPON SIX FINDINGS OF FACTS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> IS THAT GOOD, MR. -- BRADLEY?

>> BRADLEY WILL WORK. >> THAT'S FINE. >> SECOND.

>> AND SEC FROM MR. MATOVINA MA. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE SPL

VOTE. MR. MATOVINA. >> YES.

>> MS. PERKINS. >> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES.

MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK.

>> YES. >> AND DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES 6-0. UNANIMOUS, AND IT PASSES. UP NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 6.

[6. MAJMOD 2020-10 Walden Chase Commercial.]

>> VERY WELL. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, FOR THE RECORD Y HAGAR SENIOR LAN FROM HINS IS TD ST. AUGUSTINE ROAD. WITH ME IS MR. GREG BAR WERE THH PARK GROUP HE IS THE LANDOWNER F NOCATEE BUSINESS PARK ALSO KNOWE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF WALDEN E

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TEAR IN RED IS THE COMMERCIAL CT OR THE NOCATEE BUSINESS PARK COT THAT OF PUD.

WITHIN THE RED AREA WE ARE SPECY TALKING ABOUT MODIFICATIONS TO S KNOWN AS PARCEL 4, THE COMMERCIL OF THAT PUD. FOR LAND USE AND ZONING, YOU'LLT THE PROPERTY AGAIN INDICATED INT OF THAT LARGER YELLOW AREA IS ME ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. IT IS IMMEDIATELY JANET TO NEW N WHICH WE KNOW THAT TO BE THE LAE CATEGORY FOSTER NOCATEE DEVELOPF REGIONAL IMPACT, AND YOU CAN SEE SURROUNDING LAND USES THERE ON E OF THE 1 AS YOU MOVE WEST IS MIE TWIN CREEK AND RESIDENTIAL LANDE CATEGORIES. JANET TO THIS IS THE ZONING. ESSENTIALLY EVERYTHING SEEN IN E INDICATES TO US THAT THERE'S A F MASTER PLANNED OR PLANNED UNIT S IN THE AREA ESSENTIALLY CONSISTH NOCATEE, WALDEN, CHASE, QUAIL RD THEN WEST OF US-1 BEING IN THE N CREEKS DRI PUDS.

SO A LITTLE BIT OF PROJECT BACKD AND WHY WE'RE REFERENCE, THIS WA KNOCK A KEY BUSINESS PARK.

CYNTHIA ABOUT COMPILE INFORMATIA MAJOR MOD IF I CAKES SERIES OF G IN 2009 THAT NAD THIS LAND TO T.

THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR SEVERAL CO. THIS IS WHERE THIS PROJECT ENGAS ENTITLEMENT FROM THE OVERALL MIN PLAN FOR THE DRI SLOTTING INTO A AND ASSIGNMENT OF RIGHTS FROM TD FIEMENT SO LAND USE IS PROVIDEDE MIXED USE LAND USE CATEGORY. IT HAS ENTITLEMENTS COMING IN FE NOCATEE DRI.

TODAY'S "TO INCREASE OR MODIFY . THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL TO INCREY 30,000 SQUARE FEET TO THE EXISTG 80,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAE ALLOCATED TO PARCEL 4 OF THE PU. THE PARCEL 4 IS A 10-ACRE COMMEL PARCEL. THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR THE CURRENT USE THAT'S INTENDED AS A SKILLEG FACILITY. IT'S ABOUT 120 BEDS WITHIN THATL 110,000 SQUARE FEET PROVIDING FE DESIGN ROOM IN THAT ELEMENT. THAT'S THE INTENT. ACCESS IS PROVIDED BOTH FROM OLE HIGHWAY, AND I SEE IT WOULD HAVO INDICATED VALLEY RIDGE, AND YOUD OF SEE THAT EXISTING DRIVEWAY CONNECTION. AND IF ANY OF ALL COMPLETED YOUE SWRIBTS WOULD HAVE SEEN SIDEWALD DRIVEWAY CONNECTION ON VALLEY RD JUST ALONG OLD DIXIE HIGHWAY. NO IMPROVEMENTS YET.

THE OTHER PORTIONS, AGAIN FOR YE VISIT, TO LOOK AT, THIS WOULD BE GATE GAS STATION, DIFFERENT ARE.

WE HAVE THE SLEW OF RESTAURANTSE ENJOY EATING AT NOW AT US-1. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE SITE IN ENTIRELY BUFFERED WITH THIS WETS STRAND. YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS LINE MEAND.

THIS IS INTERNAL TO WALDEN CHASU COME IN, AND THAT ROUND ABOUT MG OFF PALM VALLEY ROAD WHERE YOU O THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF WAN CHASE WOULD BE. IN THE LEAD-UP TO OUR MEETING TE DID PHONE IN WITH CYNTHIA THAT D ONE FROM AN RESIDENT JANET TO WN CHASE, HE WAS WERND E. CONCERN,S IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND WE S IS LIMITED TO PARCEL 4 WHICH ISE THE ENTITLEMENT WOULD BE FROM IG IT FROM 80,000 TO A TOTAL OF 11. SO IN SUMMARY, THIS USE IS CONST WITH THE NOCATEE DRI.

IT'S WHERE IT IS ENTITLEMENTS AG OUT OF OF THE PROJECT. IT'S CONSISTED WITH THE MIXED US USE CATEGORY AS FAR AS NOT CHANG ANY OF THE BANK USES. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE WALDENE PUD AND WILL HAVE THE HEIGHT RES IN THE PUD. TRR NO NEW CAIFERSZ WAIVERS THAE ASKED OR REQUESTED AND THE DEVES THROUGH THE DRI MITIGATION PLAND WE'LL LOOK TO FILE AN INCREMENTF DEVELOPMENT PLAN MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS UPON OUR APPROVAL. OUR NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO GAIN R RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL AS O THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONES MEETING WHICH WILL BE HEARD .

I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE IF I QUESTIONS, AND MR. BARBER IS HES WELL.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER C? >> YES, WE HAVE. ONE SPEAKER CARD, MR. MICHAEL H.

>> SO I'M TOLD THAT WAS A NEIGHT MR. BARBER IS FAMILIAR WITH, ANY WERE ABLE TO CHAT ABOUT THE PROD

HE'S SATISFIED AND HE'S SAID WEO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. >> THAT'S THE ONLY ONE.

>> DOUGH WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPES ONLINE? >> IT SAYS ONE CALL WAITING.

IT'S ZERO. >> DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKES ONLINE?

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>> MINE I'M HERE. MY NAME IS SARAH LEE. >> HELLO.

SARAH. HOW ARE YOU? >> I'M FINE, THANK YOU.

>> WE'LL SET YOUR CLOCK TO THREE MINUTES, AND PLEASE MOVE FORWAR. >> SO I AM DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY PROPOSED FOR THE INCREN THE 30,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE 0 SQUARE FEET SKILLED NURSING UNIR THE WALDEN CHASE PUD FROM 1998. I HAVE TWO MAJOR CONCERNS. MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN THAT THE T THE BUFFER THAT WE AGREED UPON N 1998 WILL BE RESPECTED AND FULFE NORTH SIDE OF MY PROPERTY AND TH

SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S UNDR PROPOSAL HERE>> CORRECT. >> AND WHAT'S THE SECOND ONE?

>> AND THE SECOND ONE IS THAT WY START TO CLEAR LAND, I WOULD RET THAT I HAVE SOME NOTIFICATION BI DO RUN A HORSE FARM AND I HAVE E SINCE 1994, AND IF THEY START KG DOWN TREES AND THINGS THAT'S GOO JEOPARDIZE MY BUSINESS SIGNIFICI WILL TO HAVE SHUT DOWN MY BUSINR THE CLEARING OF THE LAND, AND IM

REQUESTING NOTIFICATION FOR WHEO TO START CLEARING LAND. >> OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> HOLD ONE SECOND, PLEASE. >> SURE.

>> I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE EE TO THE SKILLED NURSING UNIT WILF OF VALLEY RIDGE, NOT OFF THE OFE HIGHWAY, AND THAT I, BEING THE H SIDE -- OLD DIXIE BY, BEING THEH SIDE OF THE PERIMETER LINE OF TE PROPERTY WOULD BE ON THE BACK SF THE FACILITY WITH MINIMAL TRAFFC WITH MINIMAL DISTURBANCE THROUGE DAY. AND I ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY THATE HAS APPROACHED ME OR -- AT ALL INSINUATED THAT THEY WILL BE WID DIXIE HIGHWAY DUE TO THIS PARTIR PLANNING PROPOSAL.

I DO KNOW THEY'RE LAYING A SIDET SOUTH OF ME. NO ONE HAS MENTIONED THAT THEREE ANY -- TO MY PROPERTY. I KNOW THAT'S NOT YOUR DEPARTMET ALONG WITH THE SKILLED NURSING I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT NN MY PROPERTY AT 10920 OR 181-084E AFFECTED BY THIS CURRENT PROPOS.

ASIDE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT ON TE PROPERTY. >> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKER?

>> NOT THAT I KNOW OF. >> NO FURTHER COMMENT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANF THOSE COMMENTS?

>> SHULTE. ALL IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. ONE REGARDING THE BUFFER TO ADJG HER PROPERTY, THAT IS WITHIN THD TEXT AND WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TY THAT.

AT THIS SCALE YOU CAN'T REEL SEE HATCH PATTERN THAT PROVIDES FOR. THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED AS WAS D ALONG THAT BOUNDARY LINE, SO THN THE AFFIRMATIVE. YES, TO PROVIDE NOTIFICATION TOR BEFORE ANY LAND CLEARING ACTIVIS OCCUR, WE AGREE WE WILL PROVIDE NOTIFICATION FOR HER FOR THAT PS WELL. REGARDING CAPACITY, THIS CHANGEO OLD DIXIE HIGHWAY, THIS CHANGE T RESULT IN ANY CAPACITY IMPROVEMO OLD DIXIE HIGHWAY. SHE IS CORRECT THAT WE WILL INSN DEVELOPMENT OCCURS A SIDEWALK AR PROPERTY FRONTAGE AS IS A REQUIF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, BUT BY AN THE ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS NOT REQUIRE THE WIDENING OF OLDE HIGHWAY.

SO ALL IN THE AFFIRMATIVE FOR H. >> THE BACK SIDE OF THE BUILDIN? >> THE BACK SIDE OF THE BUILDINE STILL MEETING AUTO AREA HEIGHT K REGULATIONS, AS WOULD BE PROVIDW UNDER THE COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOO.

A MAXIMUM HEIGHT WOULD BE 30 FET EXCESSIVE WOO OUR STANDARD SAIDN ADDITION TO THE BUFFER STANDARDS

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THERE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. I GUESS WE'RE OUT OF PUBLIC COMT THIS POINT.

BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR QUESTIONR COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT. GOING THROUGH THE ROLL CALL,

MR. MATOVINA. AND EX PARTE. >> NO EX PARTE AND NO QUESTIONSR

COMMENTS. >> MS. PERKINS. >> NO EX PARTE.

NO QUESTIONS. >> ME, NO EX PARTE, NO REAL QUE. ONE COMMENT THOUGH.

I THINK IT'S VERY KIND OF YOU TR THE NOTICE OF CLEARING OF THE L. I'D SAY THAT I MAKE THAT A G

REASON SO THE BUSINESS NEEDS TOR THEIR COURSE OF ACTIONS. >> YES.

>> MR. WAINRIGHT. >> NO EX PARTE. NO COMMENTS.

>> DR. HILSENBECK. >> EX PARTE, I DID DRIVE BY THE PROPERTY.

COMMENTS, I GUESS THIS ACTUALLYD BACK IN 1998 WITH THE NOCATEE DD THEN THIS WAS MODIFIED 2009, THS MODIFIED. WHERE IT STATES IN THE APPLICATN MATERIAL THAT DEVELOPMENT ENTITS WERE REDUCED, SO THERE'S A CHARD THERE'S OTHER MATERIALS IN THERT SHOWS THE COMMERCIAL WENT FROM 0 DOWN TO 80,000 SQUARE FEET. WITH THOSE APPROVED DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS BEING REDUCED.

I WAS CURIOUS, WAS THERE THIS RN IN ENTITLEMENTS FOR COMMERCIAL E FOOTAGE, THAT IS A TO GAIN APPRN 2009 OR DOES ANYONE EVEN KNOW TR TO THAT QUESTION? AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTIOR

THAT, IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAE NOW, PLEASE. >> YES.

THIS IS GREG BARBER WITH THE PA. BACK IN 2009 WE LOWERED THE ENTS WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS LAND INTO I AND WE ASSIGNED 80,000 SQUARE FF COMMERCIAL ENTITLEMENTS TO THE D BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT A REASONABLE EXPECTATION. COMMERCIAL WOULD ALLOW A WHOLE F DIFFERENT USES IN, AND THAT SITD VERY WELL BE SOME TYPE OF COMMEL STRIP CENTER OR SOMETHING. SO THAT WAS THE REAB IT WAS LORS JUST WHAT WAS A REASONABLE EXPEN FOR A 10 OR 11-ACRE SITE. WE HAVE NOW, WHY WE'RE HERE TODE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONVERT T COMMERCIAL SITE AND HALL THAT TC INTO A SKILLED NURSING FACILITYH IS A SINGLE STORY, VERY RESIDENL STYLE, AND IT'S NOT ASSISTED LIR INDEPENDENT LIVING.

IT'S SKILLED NURSING WHERE YOU S INSTEAD OF ROOMS. AND WE WENT THROUGH THE TRAFFICT THE OTHER DAY, AND IT'S LIKE 1/E TRAFFIC COUNT THAT A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY P UP THE TOTAL SIZE OF THE DEVELON THAT SITE.

>> OKAY. BUT IT WAS STATED EARLIER DURINE INITIAL PRESENTATION THAT THESEE DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS, AND IT SEE THAT AS QUITE THE CASE SINCY WERE VOLUNTARILY REDUCED.

MY NEXT QUESTION IS THERE'S A LN THE APPLICATION MATERIALS THAT'D SEPTEMBER 8, 2020.

IT'S VERY ALLEN FLOOD, SPECIAL , ST. JOHNS COUNTY UTILITY. >> YES.

>> YES? RICHARD, ARE YOU THERE? RICHARD, ARE YOU THERE? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL COME BACK TO RICHARD, THE. DR. MCCORMICK, DO YOU HVE ANY QS

OR EX PARTE -- COMMENTS OR EX PO DECLARE? >> COMMENT AND ACTUALLY EX PART.

I DID WITT THE SITE. I WENT DOWN VALLEY RIDGE BOULEVD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OLD DIXIE H, SO I GOT A FULL LOOK AT THE WHOA THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT HERE. OTHER THAN THAT NO COMMENTS ANDO

QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

>> COMMENTS. >> DR. HILSENBECK, YOU'RE BACK . >> I GOT CUT OFF.

MY CELL PHONE DROPPED OFF. SORRY. THAT LETTER I WAS DISCUSSING, IS THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY UTILITY DT WILL BE ABLE TO MEET THE WATER R CAPACITY FOR A NEW 30,000 SQUART

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WHEN WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED HES 110,000 SQUARE FOOT SKILLED NURG FACILITY.

THE LETTER STATES THEY CAN MEETR 30,000 EXPWAIR FOOT, SO I WANT M CLARIFICATION ON THAT, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. >> YES, I CAN CLARIFY FOR THAT. ALLEN FLOOD WITH THE UTILITY DET CAUGHT THAT SCREANS AND HAD DENA REVISED LETTER THAT REFERENCES S FOR TWO PARDZ PARTS, ONE TO CATT DR. HYNES WAS HAAS SAID WITH THE ENTITLEMENT AND ALSO THE BEDS TT MR. BARBER.

THAT'S ON FILE AND WE CAN MAKE S FORWARD WITH US TO THE BOARD OFY COMMISSIONERS P THAT'S BEEN UPDD

CORRECTED EXPWSH THE CAPACITY SL REMAINS AVAILABLE. >> RICHARD, SATISFIED?

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICA. BUT WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE LETTER. IT WASN'T PROVIDED TO US IN OUR.

CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. IT IS NOT IN YOUR STAFF PACKAGEI CAN CONFIRM THAT IT'S IN OUR SUB CONSTITUENTAL PACKAGE IN THE -- SUBMITTAL PACKAGE IN THE FILE.

WE CAN NOD OR CONFIRM OR I CAN - >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US? ALL RIGHT. DO YOU GUYS WANT TO TAKE A SEAT.

WE'LL BRING IT BACK INTO THE AGR MORE COMMENTS, THOUGHTS OR A MO, PLEASE.

MR. WAINRIGHT. >> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION. >> DR. MCCORMICK, GO AHEAD.

>> MY MOTION IS TO RECOMMEND APF MAJMOD 2020-10 WALDEN CHASE PUDN SIX FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDEE

STAFF REPORT. >> SEC. >> I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A COMMT

BEFORE A SECOND. >> YOU CAN CERTAINLY OFFER A CO. >> SHOULD WE MODIFY THE MOTION N THE PRESENCE OF THE LETTER THATN ALLUDED TO? IS THAT IMPORTANT TO US?

>> LET'S ASK OUR ATTORNEY. >> I DON'T THINK THE MOTION NEEE MODIFIED.

THE OOP APPLICANT INDICATED TR WOULD BE SUBMITTED FOR THE BOARF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' CONSIDERA.

I GUESS I WOULD ASK MR. KOPPENHU HAD INDICATED AND HAD SOME DISCN WITH THE APPLICANT REGARDING THE TO THE NEIGHBORS. I'M ASSUMING YOU WERE NOT SUGGEG THAT THAT BE INCLUDED IN THE PUY

WAY BUT JUST A PIECE OF ADVICE,I SUPPOSE. >> IT'S REALLY A PIECE OF ADVICY STANDPOINT. IF MOTION MAKER CARES TO ENTER , THAT'S FINE.

>> NO,ION I DO NOT KNOW. >> THERE YOU GO. WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A O APPROVE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, WE'LL DO THE ROLLL

VOTE. MR. MATOVINA. >> YES.

>> MS. PERKINS. >> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES.

MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK.

>> NO. >> AND DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. 5-1.

THANK YOU ALL. AND OUR LAST TWO ITEMS I UNDER E HEARD TOGETHER.

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BY MS. ELLEN AVERY SMITH. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THE FIRST ITEME SMALL SCALE COMP PLAN AMOUNTED T NORMALLY REQUIRE EX PARTE BUT WE A COMPANION MAJOR MODIFICATION T WOULD SO WE STILL NEED EX PARTE.

>> NL ELLEN, FLOOR IS YOURS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, ELLEN ARRON H REASON, TOWERS 100 WEST STONE P, ST. AUGUSTINE AND I AM HERE ON F THE PROPERTY OWNER, WELL, THE OF THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PROPERH IS THE LDG PARKWAY PLACE. THEY ARE THE CONTRACT PURCHASERS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY FROM THO FAMILY. SO YOU GENTLEMEN AND LADY HAVE S BEFORE, I BELIEVE.

YOU'LL RECALL THAT THE PROPERTYT THE SOUTH EASTERN CORNER OF RACK ROAD AND ST. JOHNS PARKWAY.

THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONE NORTHERN PART OF THE PROPERTY ID USE DISTRICT, AND THAT LAND USEE WAS MADE ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO,D THERE'S DEVELOPMENT GOING ON ONE WHICH I WILL TALK ABOUT IN JUSTA MINUTE. THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST ARE O MIXED USE DISTRICT.

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THIS IS THE DURBIN CROSSING DRID THEN AGAIN THIS PROPERTY IS OWNE BARKO FAMILY.

THIS IS A STORM WATER POND THATD NOT ONLY TO DRAIN DID BARKO FAM, WHICH IS ALL OF THIS AREA BUT AO ST. JOHNS PARK WRAY. THE COUNTY HAS A DRAINAGE EASEMI BELIEVE OVER THAT DRAINAGE PONDL OR A PORTION OF IT. AND THEN THE ZONING IS PARKWAY D WHICH, OF COURSE, THIS BOARD AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF A COUPLF YEARS AGO AND THE COUNTY COMMISN APPROVED FOR THIS PORTION WHICHG MODIFIED TODAY. AND THEN THIS PORTION IS BEING D FROM OR AND ADDED INTO THE EXISG PARKWAY PLACE PUD. SO THE SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVN AMENDMENT AGAIN IS FOR JUST THIS APPROXIMATELY 6 ACRES OF LAND TS OWNED BY BARKO FAMILY. THIS IS THE BARKO FAMILY CHARITE TRUST. AND THIS IS AN UPLAND PROPERTY N ST. JOHNS PARKWAY AND THIS POND.

THE SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PD AMENDMENT ALSO INCLUDES THE SAMT AMENDMENT AS THE NORTHERN PROPET LIMITS THE USES TO NEIGHBORHOOD, BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL USES. SO ONLY THE INTENSITY OF USE THD BE A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, NT INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL. SO WE'RE TALKING NOT BIG BOX RE, ANY OF THAT STUFF. JUST A COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOD COMMERCIAL KINDS OF USES.

AND THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SQUART THAT COULD GO ON THIS NEW OR SON PROPERTY WOULD BE 70,000 SQUAREF COMMUNITY SCALED COMMERCIAL ANDE SPACE. SO YOU'LL SEE THE MAPS, EXISTINE LAND USE IS RURAL/SILVICULTURE. WE'RE ASKING FOR IT TO GO TO MIE DISTRICT TO MATCH THIS PROPERY E NORTH THAT IT IS JOINING IN THI. AND THEN WE'RE SEEKING A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO THE PUD TO INCRE NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGN THIS NORTHERN PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY OWNER STILL OWNS 1S 10,000 SQUARE FEET TO THAT AREAD THEN ASKING FOR 70,000 SQUARE FN THIS, SO THAT WILL BRING THE TOO 200,000 SQUARE FEET AGAIN OF TH. JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGRD I KNOW DR. HILSENBECK, YOU'RE AS KEEN ON BECAUSE OF COVID, THAT S BEEN SOME DOWNTURN IN RETAIL AC, BUT I WILL SHOW YOU IN THIS PUDR DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THIS IS A CIRK THAT IS THERE. THERE WILL BE A GOODWILL STORE , I WOULD CALL THAT MINI WAREHOUSR STORAGE FACILITY THAT IS ALREADG HERE.

THERE ARE USERS UNDER CONTRACT S PROPERTY WHICH IS THE 170. ACRES THAT IS BEING ADDED -- 1 T 7 ACRES OR 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF ENTITLEMENT ARE BEING ADDED TO S BECAUSE THERE ARE USERS IDENTIF.

AND THEN THIS IS THE NEW PIECE S BEING ADDED. THERE'S A USER ALREADY UNDER COT FOR THIS PROPERY. AND THEN WE'RE ADDING THIS PARTE IT WILL BE FUTURE USERS IN THAT.

A COUPLE OF NOTES JUST FOR THE D FOR ALL OF YOU, AND I WILL SHARO YOU ON THE SCREEN JUST BY WAY OF CLEANUP, YESTERDAY AND THIS MORI WAS CORRESPONDING WITH STAFF MES ABOUT THE FACT THAT, AND PARTICY THE PROJECT PLANNER ABOUT THE FT THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THT INCLUDES FIVE DRIVEWAYS IN MY PT IN THIS MAIFER ON PAGE 12 SAID O WE NEED TO REVISE THIS THREE TOE FIVE DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS TO MATCE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP. AND ALSO ANOTHER CLEANUP IS THAE WOULD BE ASKING FOR ONLY FOUR GD SIGNS WITHIN THE LENGTH OF THISY ALONG ST. JOHNS PARKWAY, SO THAA CLEANUP WE NEED TO DO TO THIS MP BETWEEN NOW AND THE COUNTY COMMN SHOULD YOU, LADY AND GENTLEMAN GENTLEMEN, DETERMINE TO RECOMMED APPROVAL THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMED PUD MAJOR MODIFICATION. SO JUST SOME CLEANUP THINGS THAE MISSED, AND WE APPRECIATE STAFFG WITH US AND NOTIFYING US THAT WD TO DO THAT CLEANUP WORK.

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>> DOWN MIND GOING THROUGH THE . >> ALL OF THEM? >> YES, PLEASE.

>> SO THESE WAIVERS, I WANT TO O THROUGH THE ONES THAT ARE EXISTD THEN THE ONES THAT HAVE CHANGE.

SO THE WAIVERS AGAIN, THE FIRSTR IS THE SAME AS IT IS IN THE EXID TEXT, AND ACTUALLY I NEED TO GOO THIS SCREEN. FOR THE -- OKAY. SO I MENTIONED EARLIER THIS MAPD ENOUGH THAT THIS RETENTION PONDN ST. JOHNS PARKWAY AND THE ADJAC, THIS LAND IS OWNED BY BARKO ANDS LAND IS BENEFITED BY DRAINAGE ET THAT COMES ALONG IN HERE AND DRO THAT POND.

SO THIS WAIVER NUMBER 1 HAS BEEE SINCE 2018, AND THIS PUD WAS AP. SO HAS WAIVER NUMBER 2 WITH RESO OUTDOOR SEASONAL SALES. THAT TENDS TO OCCUR AROUND THAN, CHRISTMAS TIME AND THAT KIND OF.

SO THAT'S THE SAME. THAT IS NOT A NEW WAIVER. THIS WAIVER FOR THE ABLE CHANGE FACILITIES AND TIRE SERVICE CENA NEW WAIVER. AND LET ME GO TO THAT.

SO THE WAIVER WHO ALLOW A MAX ML OF EIGHT DAYS DR. WOULD ALLOW AM OF EIGHTS DAYS THAT WOULD BE SCD ACCORDING TO THE LANDS DEVELOPM, AND THIS IS A RENDERING OF WHATD LOOK LIKE FROM ST. JOHNS PARKWA.

SO THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE BUI. THIS WOULD BE A WALL THAT IS ERD THAT IS RIDER BY THE CODE STANDD THE PUD TEXT REQUIRES THE ENHAND LANDSCAPING, AND THAT'S WHAT THE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING WILL LOOK .

AND SO THAT'S WAIVER NUMBER 3. WAIVER NUMBER 4 WAS THE ONE THAD TO CLEAN UP THREE DRIVEWAYS TO .

THIS IS AN EXISTING WAIVER AND N EXISTING PUD REGARDING THE NUMBF ACCESS POINTS ALONG ST. JOHNS P.

ON THE DEVELOPMENT EDGES, THIS S IN THE EXISTING PUD TECHS THAT G EXPANDED OR ELONGATED INTO THE W PROPERTY WITH RESPECT TO THE DET EDGE BEING SHORTER ON I WILL CAT THINNER ON THIS SIDE OF THE PROY BECAUSE OF THIS JEA PARCEL AND S RETENTION POND. SO THERE'S NO SCREENING OF ANY E OR HERE BECAUSE OF THE LOCATIONF THOSE FACILITIES. WAIVER NUMBER 6, WHICH IS HERE,T A CAREOVER THAT WAS ALREADY APPN 2018. THE SAME THING WITH WAIVER NUMBR THE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS TO BE RECONFIGURED. AND THEN WAIVER NUMBER 8 IS A NE BECAUSE YOU APPROVED A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO THE NORTHERN POF THIS PROPERTY.

LET ME GO TO THAT MAP. YOU APPROVED A PUD MAJOR MODIFIN FOR THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WRINTSDZ WITHIN THE LAST YEAR. SO WE ADDED THAT WAIVER BECAUSEE MODIFYING THE PUD MORE THAN ONEN

ONE YEAR. SO THAT'S WAIVER NUMBER 8. >> I'M SORRY.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE WAIVERS INE STAFF REPORT. THEY'RE APPARENTLY DIFFERENT NUG

THAN THE WAIVERS YOU HAVE ON THT DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU. >> OKAY.

LET ME -- >> AND I DON'T HAVE THAT DOCUMEN FRONT OF ME UNLESS IT'S IN YOUR.

SO WAIVER NUMBER 1 IS ACCESSORY, OFF-SITE RETENTION, WHICH WAS C. NUMBER 2 WAS THE SEASONAL SALES?

>> YES. >> ON THE JUSTIFICATION OF THAT, THAT'S A MAXIMUM OF TEN PERMITSR

PER PARCEL AND MAINTAINS 45 DAYR EACH EVENT. >> YES.

>> SO THAT'S 450 DAYS TOTAL WIT5 DAY YEAR. >> AND THAT WAS THIS TEXT IS INE

EXISTING APPROVED PUD. >> RIGHT. >> WE HAVEN'T CHANGED THAT ONE.

>> WHAT'S THE REASON FOR IT THE? >> IT WOULD BE FOR THINGS LIKE CHRISTMAS, SELLING CHRISTMAS TRD

PUMPKINS AND HAY BALES AND THINE THAT. >> AND BY PARCEL, DO YOU MEAN JE

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STORAGE FACILITY ON IT? >> WELL, BY THE LANGUAGE OF THIT WOULD

COULD BE EACH INDIVIDUAL PARCEL. >> SO EACH INDIVIDUAL PARCEL CAP TO TEN SPECIAL -- GET THE WORDS&

TEN OUTDOOR SEASONAL SALES AS T5 DAYS APIECE. >> YES.

>> THAT DOES NOT SEEM EXCESSIVE? >> AGAIN -- >> I KNOW IT'S IN THE ORIGINAL.

THAT DOES NOT SEEM EXCESSIVE, T. DOES THAT SEEM EXCESSIVE TO STA? >> I WILL SAY -- I WILL TELL THU THIS LANGUAGE IS IN A NUMBER OFS IN THIS AREA OF THE COUNTY FOR E REASON THAT I STATED, WHICH IS N

CHRISTMAS TREE SALES, PUMPKIN S. >> I GET THAT. THAT HAPPENS AROUND CHRISTMAS TD IT HAPPENS AROUND THANKSGIVING R HALLOWEEN AND MAYBE SOMETHING IE SPRING, BUT I PERSONALLY HAVE AE WERE THAT. SO NUMBER 3 IS ACCESS MANAGEMEN. IS THATWHAT WHERE YOU TALKED ABE

THREE TO FIVE? >> THAT'S NUMBER 4 IN THE PUD T, CORRECT.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE'RE CHANGE NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS JUST TO MATP WITH THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLA.

>> NUMBER 4 IS DEVELOPMENT EDGEH IS A CARRYOVER, RIGHT? GLURM 5 IN THE PUD TEXT.

THAT'S AN APPROVED ONE. I THINK WHAT MS. KUEHNE DID WASU THE APPROVED WAIVERS IN THE STAF REPORT, THE THINGS THAT HAVE ALY BEEN APPROVED, AND THEN THE THIT ARE NEWSO DEVELOPMENT EDGES WASD

BEFORE. THAT'S NUMBER 5 IN THE TEXT. >> AND NUMBER 5 HERE IS OFF-STRT

VEHICLE USE AREAS, PERIMETER BUR STANDARDS. >> RIGHT.

THAT'S NUMBER 6 IN THE TEXT, WHS ALREADY APPROVED. >> NUMBER 8 IS LANDSCAPE ISLANDH

IS YOUR NUMBER 7. >> CORRECT. >> AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL ONE S

EIGHT BAYS. >> RIGHTS. THAT'S A NEW -- THAT IS A NEW WN

THIS PUD MODIFICATION APPLICATIS THE LIMITATIONS ON REZONING. >> MICHAEL, WHAT IS YOUR REMEMB? I KNOW WE WENT THROUGH THE AUTOE BAY CONVERSATION SEVERAL TIMES,I THOUGHT THAT REVISED IN ONE OF E CHANGES TO THE LDC. CAN YOU SPARK OUR MEMORIES, PER? I DON'T REMEMBER.

MR. CHAIR, EXACTLY WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? >> I KNOW WE OPENED IT UP FROM E

SMALL NUMBER THAT WAS IN THE LDE TO SOME MORE REASONABLE NUMBER. >> YES.

SO IT'S A MAXIMUM OF THREE UNLEA WAIVER IS REQUESTED, SO THAT'S E STANDARD.

I DON'T REMEMBER ANY PREVIOUS DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION.

ON THAT. >> THAT IS THE CASE. MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE HAVE BEEN AE OF APPLICATIONS RECENTLY RIGHT D THIS AREA. IN FACT, APPROVED FOR THIS PROJT DURBIN CREEK CROSSING WHICH HADE EIGHT-BAY SINGLE. SO SOMETIMES THE TIRE AND OIL CS PLACES HAVE, AND I'M GOING TO SH MY HANDS -- THEY HAVE DOUBLE, TE THREE BAYS COMING IN BUT THEY'RE BAYS. SO YOU CAN FIT TWO CARS OR SIX S TOTAL INTO THE FACILITY.

INSTEAD, THE INDUSTRY SEEMS TO E TO, THEY WANT THE SINGLE BAYS BY WANT MORE DOORS.

SO YOU HAVE ONE CAR IN EACH OF T BAYS. AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEING REQUEST, AND THAT'S WHAT WAS APPROVED INN CREEK CROSSING ACROSS THE STREEH AGAIN THE PROPER SCREENING SO T- AND AGAIN GOING BACK TO THIS ORIENTATION, THE BUILDING IS ORD TOWARDS ST. JOHNS PARKWAY, AND S PARKWAY, THEN IT WOULD HAVE A BR WALL, SO ACTUALLY THE AUTO CHANE WOULD BE IN HERE, ACROSS THE STM THIS WETLAND WHICH IS PRESERVEDR 1 CREEK CROSSING, AND SO IT WOUE ORIENTED TOWARDS ST. JOHNS PARKH THE ENHANCED -- WITH THE WALL AND ENHANCED LANDSCAPING THAT AE PROVIDED FOR IN THE WAIVER.

>> RIGHT. OKAY. >> YOU'RE KEEPING US ON OUR TOES

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MENTALLY, THOUGH. >> TRYING TO REMEMBER SOME OF TS STUFF.

TOUGH FOR ME, I GUESS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

DID WE GO THROUGH PUBLIC SPEAKE, MR. WAINRIGHT? >> NO.

>> DO WE HAVE IN PUBLIC SPEAKER? >> PUBLIC SPEAKING CARDS, NO. AND NO CALL WAITING, ACCORDING S

DEVICE. >> LET'S CONFIRM IF WE HAVE ANYS ONLINE.

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TI. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT N AND OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS ORS AND EX PARTE TO DECLARE FROM THY

MEMBERS. GOING THROUGH THE LIST, MR. MAT. >> NO EX PARTE.

NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU. MS. PERKINS.

>> NONE FOR ME. >> I PRETTY MUCH ASKED MY QUESTN CLARIFICATIONS.

NO EX PARTE TO DECLARE. MR. WAINRIGHT? >> NO EX PAR DAY.

NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> DR. HILSENBECK. >> CONCERNING EX PARTE, YES, I E BY THE SITE, AND I HAVE A FEW QS AND/OR COMMENTS. NUMBER ONE, WHEN THE APPLICANT S TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT EDGE S THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY GRANLTD, E FOR THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OE

PROPERTY CURRENTLY UNDER CONSID. IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU -- LET ME GO T ON AN AERIAL MAP. AND THE REASON WAS BECAUSE THISO OWNED PARCEL. THERE'S A HUGE POWER LINE THAT S THROUGH HERE.

THAT POWER LINE EXTENDS DOWN HEN EASEMENT, AND THIS IS THE STORMR POND AGAIN THAT DRAINS ALL OF TE

LANDS. >> RIGHT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, THIS IS CURRENTLY RURL SILVICULTURAL ZONING.

AND DID YOU TELL US PREVIOUSLY T MITIGATION FOR ALL OF THIS PROPS DONE WITH THE PURCHASE OF THE TE

MILE SWAMP PROPERTY? >> NO. THAT WAS FOR DURBIN PARK.

>> AH. >> AND SO THIS IS -- YOU'RE COR. IT IS A RURAL/SILVICULTURE FUTUD USE DESIGNATION AND WE ARE REQUO CHANGE TO IT MIXED USE DISTRICTH THE COMPANION PROPERTY, IF YOU O THE NORTH. THIS IS BEING ADDED TO THIS PRO. BUT THIS IS --

>> RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU.

CONCERNING THE EXISTING PROPERTE NORTH, IT STATES IN THE APPLICAR THE FIVE PARCELS, ALREADY HAVE D COMMERCIAL PLANS ON IT, AND THIA VERY, PARTICULARLY AT THE SOUTHD OF THIS SOUTHERN TRACT, YOU'RE G FOR THE REZONING ON, IT'S A VERW PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO I JUST -- I DON'T LIKE THE NG AWAY OF RURAL/SILVICULTURE LANDN THIS COUNTY, AGRICULTURAL LAND , ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND CERTAINLYT 6.66 ACRES STAND-ALONE PARCEL IT REALLY A VIABLE AGRICULTURAL PR, AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THATE COUNTY COMMISSION IS ENCOURAGINE COMMERCIAL USE FOR THE TAX BASEE COUNTY, BUT I ALREADY SEE A TRE, HUGE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELT RIGHT IN THIS AREA, AND I JUST E THIS PARTICULAR NARROW TRACT BET AMENABLE TO IT, PARTICULARLY WIE WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED FOR REDD BUFFERS.

SO YOU DID ANTICIPATE MY QUESTIN PEOPLE, MORE PEOPLE TELECOMMUTID BUYING ONLINE NOW THAN THEY HAVE PAST. I HOPE THE ECONOMY FULLY COMES T I'VE READ IN THE WALL STREET JO, FORBES, BUSINESS INSIDER AND OTT A LOT OF THIS COMMERCIAL TYPE AY JUST MAY NOT COME BACK FOR A WH.

I HOPE THAT'S NOT TRUE, BUT THEE FAIRLY AUTHORITATIVE SOURCES. SO MY NEXT -- AND THIS IS A QUED A CLARIFICATION. THERE'S A LETTER QUOTED IN THE APPLICATION CONCERNING WATER OR, AND HERE'S THE QUOTE, IT SAYS, "ACCORDING TO LETTER DATED AUGU, 2020, THE JACKSONVILLE ELECTRIC AUTHORITY MAY BE ABLE TO MEET TR AND SEWER CAPACITY FOR A NEW 700 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL CENTER WITH

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WE'LL LET HIM COME BACK. MAYBE HIS CELL PHONE DROPPED HI. >> OKAY.

LET ME ANSWER A COUPLE OF HIS QS SO HOPEFULLY HE CAN STILL HEAR . ON THE WATER AND SEWER AVAILABIY LETTER, THAT WAS OBTAINED BY JED CERTAINLY WE ARE FROM JEA AND WE ENGINEERS WILL BE SURE TO MAKE E THERE'S CAPACITY. THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY THAT IN ON THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN S AN ACTUAL USER UNDER CONTRACT, O THIS IS NOT A SPECULATIVE BUILD. THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY IS OY WILLING FINANCIALLY TO PURCHASES PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY HAVE A USR CONTRACT AND THEY FEEL THAT IS D USER THAT WILL CLOSE ON THE PRO. AND THEN FOR THE WATER AND SEWER AVAILABILITY, I'M NOT THE ENGINT CERTAINLY WE WILL MAKE SURE THAE IS AVAILABLE WATER AND SEWER CA, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYG FROM JETA THAT'S EVER INDICATEDY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO SE NORTHERN PART OF ST. JOHNS COUNN

THEIR SERVICE TERRITORY. >> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I DID MISS PART OF THAT BECY PHONE NOW FOR THE SECOND TIME IW HAS CUT OUT AT AN INOPPORTUNE TT THAT'S THE MARVELS TECHNOLOGY. SO I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT WO" BE ABLE.

YOU SAY IT'S GOING TO BE FINE. AND THEN IT STATES "A NEW 70,00E FOOT RETAIL CENTER," WHEN WHAT L REALLY GOING TO BE SERVICING ISA 200,000 SQUARE FOOT SHOPPING CER SPACE, SO I AM CONCERNED ABOUT .

AND THEN IT STATES AT THE END OT SENTENCE THERE'S A CLAUSE THAT S WILL HAPPEN CONTINGENT UPON CON.

I WONDER WHAT THOSE CONDITIONS E IF YOU ARE ABLE TO ELABORATE. THANK YOU.

>> THE CONDITIONS I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE BECAUM NOT AN ENGINEER.

LIKE I SAID, THERE WILL BE NO PF THERE'S NO WATER AND SEWER CAPAD CERTAINLY THE CLIENT KNOWS THAT.

WITH RESPECT TO THE 70,000 SQUA, THAT WAS SUBJECT TO A PREVIOUS AVAILABILITY LETTER FOR THIS AR.

AND SO THAT WAS NOT THE -- THE G PORTION OF THE PUD WAS NOT SUBJO THE NOW CURRENT AVAILABILITY LE.

THAT WAS FORTUNATE SOUTHERN PIES BEING ADDED INTO THE PROJECT. >> SO SEE IT'S POSSIBLE SIT FITG 70,000 SQUARE FEET INTO THAT PRY MYSELF. BUT STRANGER THINGS HAVE BEEN D.

DR. MCCORMICK, MI EX PARTE OR C? >> THIS IS DR. MCCORMICK. FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE ALL E QUESTIONS AND THE ANSWERS BY EL. I DO WANT TO DECLARE EX PARTE. I REALIZED I DON'T HAVE TO DO TN THE AMENDMENT BUT I DO ON THE N. YES, I WENT OUT THERE, ALSO. YES, I WAS OUT IN THAT AREA ANDD THE AREA. NOW IN TERMS OF COMMENTS AND QU, I DON'T HAVE ANY AT THIS TIME.

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, ELLEN?

>> NO. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, MAYBE THE APPLT COULD ANSWER THIS QUESTION REGAG UTILITIES.

IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE, FAR MOE LIMITED THAN ELLEN'S, BUT JOE TA COMMITS TO RESERVE CAPACITY AT S STAGE. I THINK THAT MAY BE FAIRLY STAND LANGUAGE THAT'S WOULD SAY "MAY E TO" BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY O CAPACITY UNTIL THEY GET AN APPLN TO ACTUALLY CONNECT.

IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING, MS.Y SMITH. >>

>> THAT'S MY EXPERIENCE. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS WH DR. HYMNALS' QUESTION, BUT -- --

DR. HILSENBECK'S QUESTION. >> THANK YOU. WE'LL SEE.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY THEN FE COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS OR MAYBE EA MOTION. ARCHIE WAINRIGHT I SAW YOU PRESR BUTTON.

>> I DIDN'T PRESA BUTTON BUT I'A MOTION UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE DOE. >> I DON'T HEAR ANYBODY SPEAKIN.

>> I THOUGHT THE COMMENT ABOUT E ABLE TO" IS PREGNANT WITH ALL KF POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE POSSIBILI.

I THINK IT DESERVES MOW ATTENTIN THAT. BUT NOT HERE.

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ARE WE GOING TO DO THESE ONE AT? Y. >> WHY ONE AT A TIME.

>> I'D OFFER A MOTION TO APPROVA SS2020-03 PARKWAY PLACE-BASED PR FINDINGS OF FACT.

>> DO WE HAVE A -- I MEAN DO WEA SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> ISLE I'M GOING TO GIVE THAT O MS. PERKINSANY FURTHER DISCUSSI?

HEARING NONE, AGAIN A ROLL CALL. MR. MATOVINA. >> YES.

>> MS. PERKINS. >> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES.

MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK.

>> NO. >> DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES, THEN, 5-1. AND ITEM NUMBER 8, ARCHIE, WANTO

AHEAD AND MAKE THAT MOTION AS A COMPANION PIECE. >> I WILL OFFER A MOTION TO RECD APPROVAL OF MAJOR MOD 2020-08 PY PLACE PUD BASED UPON SEVEN FINDF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF R.

>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU, MS. PERKINS.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, WE'LL DO THE ROLLL

VOTE. MR. MATOVINA. >> YES.

>> MS. PERKINS. >> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES.

MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK.

>> NO. >> AND DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 5-1 AS WELL. THANK YOU, ELLEN.

APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. THAT IS IT FOR OUR AGENDA ITEMSF REVIEW.

[Staff Reports - Next PZA meeting on 11/5/20 with 11 items. ]

STAFF REPORTS? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD JUMN THE STAFF REPORT, I HAD MENTIONE THE MEETING, BUT FOR THE MEMBERT ARE ATTENDING REMOTELY TODAY, IT TO ADVISE THE AGENCY THAT THE, L KNOW, I THINK THAT THE GOVERNORD PROVIDED THAT A VIRTUAL QUORUM E REACHED THROUGH REMOTE PARTICIPD HAD SUSPENDED ANY REQUIREMENT BE PURSUANT TO HIS EMERGENCY POWERT WOULD REQUIRE AN IN-PERSON QUOR.

THAT HAS BEEN EXTENDED THROUGH E PANDEMIC AND THROUGH VARIOUS EMY ORDERS.

THE LATEST EMERGENCY ORDER, WHIN SEPTEMBER 30TH, HAS BEEN EXTENDY TRUE THE END OF THIS MONTH AND A PRESS RELEASE THAT ACCOMPANIED T ORDER INDICATED THAT LOCAL GOVES SHOULD BE PREPARED TO HAVE IN-PN QUORUM AFTER THAT POINT, SO WE D NOT EXPECT THAT TO BE EXTENDED R TIME.

HOWEVER, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAS CONTINUED TO E FOR REMOTE PARTICIPATION FOR ITS MEETINGS, SO WE WILL STILL NEEDE AN IN-PERSON QUORUM BE MET IN OR TO -- IN ORDER FOR THE NEXT BOAD MEETING IN NOVEMBER, BUT THERE L AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE WHO ARE TO ATTEND TO ATTEND REMOTELY ASS WE HAVE ENOUGH FOLKS HERE TO MAA QUORUM. WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION, MR. C, IF YOU'D LIKE ABOUT HOW WE CAN . IT WAS -- IT'S MY BELIEF THAT TD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' EMERGER MORE OR LESS RECOGNIZES THAT THD BE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES THD ALLOW SOMEONE TO ATTEND REMOTELT AGAIN, WE'LL JUST NEED TO MAKE T WE HAVE AT LEAST A QUORUM IN ORO DOD ABOUT NEXT MONTH IN PERSON.

>> ALL RIGHT. I'D SAY FOR MYSELF I PLAN ON BEE IF I'M HEALTHY.

ARCHIE, QULIEWF YOU'VE BEEN A SD EDDIE AS WELL. >> AT MY AGE.

>> SO THAT'S TWO. I DON'T WANT TO PRESS THE AGENCS PERSONALLY TO MAKE A COMMITMENTW WEEK BUT I WOULD STATE THAT SOME FOLKS WHO MIGHT BE ON THE COMMIO ARE OF A SENIOR RANK MIGHT WANTR NEED TO STAY AT HOME AND MAYBE E YOUNGER FOLKS COME HERE, BUT THS INDIVIDUALLY UP TO THEM.

>> YOU NEED FOUR. >> WE'VE GOT ROUGHLY HALF OF TH. >> I WOULD JUST SUGGEST, OF COU, BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE THAT THE FOD BE IN CONTACT WITH STAFF REGARDG AVAILABILITY TO ATTEND RATHER TN

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>> IT DOESN'T MATTER ABOUT THAT. I WOULD JUST ASK, THEN, THAT EAY MEMBER COMMUNICATE AND MAYBE SHU CAN SEND OUT AN EMAIL THAT MONDY PROPRIETOR TO MEETING TO ALL MES JUST TO TAKE A ROLL CALL WHO WON

ATTENDANCE. >> I WOULD SUGGEST, MR. CHAIRMAE DON'T SEND IT TO ALL MEMBERS BUO STAFF TO AVOID POTENTIAL SUNSHIE ISSUES. IF YOU JUST LET STAFF, STAFF WI-

>> SHERRY AT STAFF SENDS IT TO N OF US AND WE RESPOND INDIVIDUAL. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> YES, I'LL BE THERE OR, NO, I. >> RIGHT. >> AND THEN IF SHERRY HE SAID E FOR AN APPLICANT TO BE HERE IN N SHE CAN SEND THAT OUT TO THE PEE SAYING NO.

GIVE PRESSURE. MAYBE THERE'S SOME CANDY BARS OE THAT CAN PERSUADE SOME FOLKS TOE

DRIVE IN. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> OR WE COULD GET A BONUS IF WT

HERE. YES, GREG. >> I WOULD BE WILLING TO, EVEN I FALL INTO THAT SENIOR CATEGORY,E NOT AS OLD AS ARCHIE, BUT I WOUE WILLING -- I WOULD BE WILLING TO

VOLUNTEER TO BE THERE IN PERSON. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. >> I WILL BE THERE S WELL.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE OUR FOUR. AND ROY IS A YOUNG WHIPPERSNAPP.

MAYBE HEAL BE HERE AS WELL. >> OF COURSE ANYBODY IS WELCOMEO ATTEND IN PERSON SHOULD THEY CHO

DO SO AS WELL. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR YO. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

BUT STYLED VERY SHERRY TO SEND R EMAILS LIKE SHE USUALLY DOES NO. >> MR. CHAIR, A COUPLE UPDATES D CYNTHIA HAS AN UPDATE AS WELL. FOR NOVEMBER 5TH, OF COURSE, JUO GIVE YOU THE BOARD AN IDEA, WE 1 ITEMS NOW 12 WITH THE ONE TODAYL BE ON, SO IT WILL BE A HEAVY LOO JUST BE PREPARED, UNHURE SURE OW FAST THEY'LL GO BUT 12 ITEMS IS2 ITEMS. SO JUST BE AWARE OF THAT.

CYNTHIA. >> THANK YOU, MIKE. MR. CHAIR, WE HAD AN ITEM THAT E TO STAFF'S ATTENTION INITIALLY O A PRE-APP THAT THEY HAVE DONE. THIS IS ON NORTH WOOD DRIVE SEVL YEARS AGO IN 2017 THE APPLICANTD APPROVAL FOR A ZONING VARIANCE H ALLOWED THEM TO REDUCE THEIR RED REQUIREMENT FROM 15 FEET TO 5 F. HOWEVER, THE APPLICATION MATERID INDICATED 3-1/2 FEET AND THAT IS MISSED BY STAFF AT THE TIME, SOE DIDN'T MAKE THAT CORRECTION THE. SO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICEN WORKING WITH THIS PROPERTY OWNED THEIR ATTORNEY AND AGREED TO BRK THAT APPLICATION FOR RECONSIDERD TO CORRECT THE ZONING VARIANCE L IF YOU ALL WOULD AGREE TO THAT . BUT THEY WILL BE -- THEY'RE SCHD

FOR NOVEMBER 5TH. >> WOW. >> AND I'M REALLY MORE --

>> SO WE APPROVED IT AT 5 FEET . THE ACATION SOMEWHERE SAID 3-1/. >> IT'S A UNIQUE SITUATION AND O THE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT DETT THEY BACK UP AND UTILIZE THE ROO WHICH THEY CONNECT.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE MAP OH WOOD DRIVE, AND IT WILL BE IN YF REPORTS WHEN YOU GET THEM FOR TT

MEETING. >> WELL, LET'S TRY AND EXPEDITEE WE HAVE 12 THINGS ON THE AGENDA.

>> AND, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO PA LITTLE BIT MORE COLOR ON THIS OI THINK THE REASON FOR THE URGENCE UNDERSTAND THERE IS A PENDING PE OF THE PROPERTY, CLOSING THAT II THINK HELD UP FOR -- TO CLARIFYS TITLE AS IDENTIFIED. AND THIS IS A PROCESS THAT WE'VP WITH IN LIEU OF GOING INTO A WHE NOTHER VARIANCE. WE THINK THAT THIS AGENCY WOULDE ABILITY TO RECONSIDER OR RE-REVW THESTRATORRIANS AS ALREADY PROVD UNDER THE CONCEPT THAT THERE WAN ERROR THAT THIS BOARD WOULD STIE

JURISDICTION TO ADDRESS WITHOUT PROCESSING AN ENTIRELY NEW VARI. >> I TRUST THE LEGAL OPINION OFE

COUNTY. THAT'S FINE. >> THANK YOU.

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>> ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF? AGENCY MEMBERS, ANYTHING TO REP? ALL RIGHT.

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CAN'T BE SELFISH AND TAKE A HOL. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH, AND WEE YOU ON THE 5TH FOR A LONG EVENI.

>> THANK YOU, MIKE. >> THANKS. >> CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TO ADJO.

ANYONE CARE TO MAKE THAT? >> MOTION TO ADJOURN. >> SECOND.

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