Aug 26, 2020 Ponte Vedra / Palm Valley Architectural Review Committee

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GHETD STARTED. WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM.

WE WON'T BE ABLE TO VOTE ON ANYTHING BUT I HAVE SEVERAL FOLKS WHO ARE VERY INTERESTED IN PRESENTING THE TWO WORKSHOP

[Call meeting to order.]

CHAIRS MAKE THAT DECISION.

CHAIR MAKE THAT DECISION.

>> WE CAN CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER BUT WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANTS TO PRESENT FOR

WORKSHOP ITEMS. >> TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE, TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT FOR A WORKSHOP WITH ONLY TWO PEOPLE CAN SOME IS

, IS NOTVERY PRODUCTIVE. >> MA'AM, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL MEMBERS HERE FROM OUT OF TOWN WHO CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO GET

Y'ALL'S FEEDBACK ON THEIR ITEMS. >> I'M HAPPY TO LISTEN BUT I JUST DON'T SEE THAT IT'S TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING IS -- DOESN'T SEEM THAT SENSIBLE TO ME.

BUT I'M WILLING TO DO WHATEVER. >> I PROPOSE THAT WE GO AHEAD AND AT LEAST LISTEN TO AWAY THE APPLICANTS HAVE TO OFFER, AND RECOGNIZING THE FACT THAT THEY WILL NEED TO PRESENT WHEN WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT ALISON?

>> THAT'S FINE, YES. >> SO JACOB I GUESS IT'S -- WHAT WE CAN DO IS START WITH WORKSHOP ITEM NUMBER 1, ARC 2020-2013,

[1. ARCCC2020-13 Oak Bridge Golf Maintenance Building: Request to construct a golf maintenance facility that will include a 1-story maintenance building and 1-story storage building; will include required parking, lighting, fencing/gates, landscaping & buffer plantings.]

OAK RIDGE MAINTENANCE BUILDING. >> YES, SIR.

AND I'M GOING TO IS DO A BRIEF INTRODUCTION ON THIS.

THIS IS A STANDARD APPLICATION THAT CAME THROUGH WITH A LITTLE BIT OF MISCOMMUNICATION ON MY PART FOR THE TIMING TO GET REGULARLY SCHEDULED ON THIS AGENDA.

WE DIDN'T MAKE THE ADVERTISING DEADLINES BUT IT IS A FULL APPLICATION. I HAVE DONE STAFF REVIEW ON IT, BROADLY SPEAKING THEY MEET ALL OF THE INTENT AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE PALM VALLEY OVERLAY. VERY, VERY NICE PACKAGE THEY PUT TOGETHER, ULTIMATELY, WITH -- CONSIDERABLE BE PROBLEM WITH IT OR SEIZE SEES ANY MAJOR ISSUE, E PLAN IS FOR THE STAFF TO DO A REVIEW AND IF THE BOARD IS HAPPY WITH THE DESIGN.

WITH THAT BEING SAID THIS IS FOR A GOLF MAINTENANCE FACILITY, AND STORAGE FACILITY. SO I DON'T HAVE MY SLIDES UP IN FRONT OF ME. BUT I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT TEAM AND LET THEM TELL YOU ALL ABOUT THIS ONE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU JACOB.

AND IF THE APPLICANTS COULD STATE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE FOR THOSE THAT ARE ONLINE HERE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, THIS IS DON FULLERTON WITH PROSSER, 13901, JACKSONVILLE. ALSO WITH PROSSER IS PAUL MOSS AND ALSO THE APPLICANT REPRESENTING THE OWNER MIKE MILES IS HERE. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO I CAN BRIEFLY TWO THROUGH SLIDES OF WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TODAY.

SO W WHAT WE HAVE IS TWO PROJECS AS JACOB MENTIONED, WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR REVIEW ESPECIALLY FOR THE GOLF MAINTENANCE FACILITY, TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND WE'RE ALSO SEEING SOME CONCEPT PLANS FOR THE PROPOSED PICKLE BALL FACILITY. THE OWNER HAS IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS UNDERGONE A MAJOR GOLF COURSE RENOVATION.

THE GOLF COURSE AS I UNDERSTAND WILL BE OPENING THIS FALL SOME MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE COURSE IN THIS SURROUNDING AREA.

BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS ARE REALLY IN ASSOCIATION WITH THAT.

RIGHT AT THE CLUBHOUSE AREA, THE GOLF COURSE AREA, THERE ARE SOME MAJOR RENOVATIONS ASSOCIATE ED WITH THE GOLF CLUBHOUSE AND THAT COMPLEX. AND CAN YOU SEE ON THIS SITE PLAN THERE IS A PROPOSED PICKLE BALL COMPLEX THERE AND GOING

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MOVING ON THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY ARCHITECTURAL PLANS AND AGAIN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE A LITTLE LATER ON WITH A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THIS PROJECT.

BUT IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND AS FAR AS THE GRAND PICTURE. MOVING AHEAD, A LOT OF THESE% CHANGES TO THE GOLF COURSE, REQUIRED A CHANGE TO THE GOLF MAINTENANCE FACILITY. AS WELL AS THERE IS SOME CHANGES TO THE SOURCE OF IRRIGATION WATER PROVIDED BY ST. JOHNS COUNTY IRRIGATION DEPARTMENT. WE HAD TO MAKE CONNECTION ON SINO ROAD, REUSE OF PONDS THAT SORT OF THING.

THE EXISTING FACILITY OFTEN THE CLUBHOUSE ON ALTA MAR DRIVE, WE ARE RELOCATING IT TO SOLANO ROAD, WHY AND MASSIVE GOMENT PLAN WAS APPROVED BY ST. JOHNS COUNTY ON AUGUST 7TH.

YOU CAN SEE THE DETAIL COMING OFF OF SOLANO ROAD, CAN YOU SEE THE COMPLEX AND THE BUILDING AND THE SMALL SERVICE YARD AS WELL AS A SEPARATE LITTLE BUILDING WITH THE PUMP STATION AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN. THE BUILDING'S ABOUT, THE FOOT PRINT IS ABOUT 6500 SQUARE FEET AND THE EIGHT FOOT PERIMETER FENCE AND SURROUNDING LANDSCAPING THAT WE'LL GO INTO A LIMB MORE DETAIL IN THE MOMENT. THIS PROJECT HAS RECEIVED APPROVAL OF THE PLAYERS CLUB ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL COMMITTEE AS WELL AS, APPROVAL OF THE ARE ST. JOHNS COUNTY FROM THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AT THIS POINT PAUL WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE OVER AND GO THROUGH THE PLAN IN A LITTLE MORE

DETAIL. >> SURE.

THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE ELEVATIONS AND THIS IS CURRENTLY SHOWING, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A 5 AND 12 ROOF PITCH. THIS PLAN, THIS ELEVATION CURRENTLY SHOWS THE 1 IN 12 AND HERE IS THE FIVE AROUND 12.

AND 12. YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCES.

OUR GOAL WOULD BE TRYING TO GET THE 1 IN 12 APPROVED BUT THAT WE UNDERSTANDING WOULD REQUIRE A NONCAN IS CONFORMING VARIANCE.

THERE IS MORE ROOCH THAT ACTUALLY MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT TO SCREEN IT. AND YOU COULD SEE WE HAVE ELEVATIONS FROM SOLANO ROAD, WHICH IS ONE FROM THE TOP.

THE MIDDLE ONE IS ONE FROM THE EAST AND THE ONE FROM THE BOTTOM IS FROM THE WEST. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE -- WE'RE PROPOSING TO HELP REDUCE THE ENERGY REQUIREMENTS OF THE BUILDING, TRANSLUCENT PANELS ALONG THE TOP OF THE BUILDING. KIND OF IDENTIFIES THOSE AREAS.

AND AS FAR AS THE DESIGN COLORS AND AND THE -- THAT WE'VE COME E ON THIS PROJECT WE'VE USED THE ADJACENT, TOWARDS THE EAST WE USED THE ADJACENT BUILDINGS TO HELP DEVELOP OUR COLOR SCHEME AND CAN YOU SEE THAT ON THE SLIDE.

NEXT ONE. THIS IS THE ARCHITECTURAL ROOF PITCH FOR A FIVE AND 12 AND WE HAVE THE ONE AND 12 AGAIN.

SO THOSE SHOW THE ELEVATIONS AND THE PLANS THAT WE CURRENTLY

HAVE. >> EXCUSE ME, I WILL ADD, THIS IS A STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF AS WELL ON THE STRUCTURE.

>> CORRECT. NEXT ONE.

THIS IS A SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE PARKING ALONG SOLANO ROAD IS ALONG THE TOP. SO WE HAVE THE PARK IN FRONTS OF THE BUILDING WITH THE HANDICAPPED SPACE OVER THERE AND THEN ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS THE ADDITIONAL MANEUVER, STORING OF EQUIPMENT AND MANEUVERING OF VEHICLES.

AND THEN ON THE SOUTH IS THE POND AND THE PUMP HOUSE.

WE DEVELOPED THE MITIGATION AND LANDSCAPE PLANS AND AS YOU KNOW THERE ARE PRETTY EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS BUFFERS AND WE HAVE THE CALCULATIONS FOR THAT.

AND THAT'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. WITH, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT TREES ALONG SOLANO ROAD AND ALONG THE EAST PROPERTY LINE.

NEXT SLIDE IS A SITE SOME NOTES AND DETAILS AND THEN THE LAST SLIDE IS THE SITE LIGHTING PLAN THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH THE

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>> BOARD MEMBERS, THIS IS JACOB SMITH.

I WANTED TO CHIME IN, I THOUGHT I HEARD ANOTHER CALLER, I THOUGHT DASHES WAS THIS A THIRD BOARD MEMBER ON THE LINE?

>> NO THIS IS ACTUALLY AN ARCHITECTURAL WITH PROSSER.

>> MR. VICE CHAIR IT IS IN YOUR COURT SIR.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.

PRESENTED TODAY. AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'VE GOT APPROVALS ON THE SAWGRASS IN REFERENCE TO -- AND ALSO THE REFERENCE TO THE PREVIOUS APPROVALS THROUGH THE COUNTY.

SINCE THIS IS A LIMITED GROUP OF THE COMMITTEE THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO AND PRESENTING TO TODAY, WE'LL JUST PROBABLY KEEP THIS TO A MINIMUM IN TERMS OF THE COMMENTS.

ALISON, UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING, I'VE GOT A FEW COMMENTS AND I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT WHEN YOU DO COME BEFORE US FORMALLY, THE ROOF PITCH IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL WANT TO COVER IN A LOT MORE DETAIL.

I KNOW IT'S TOUGH WITHOUT HAVING US ALL THERE IN PERSON TO LOOK AT COLORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. USUALLY WE LIKE TO HAVE SAMPLES OF ALL THE MATERIALS. BUT I THINK THAT WITHIN THE PRESENTATION, PARTICULARLY, AND THE STANDING SEAM ROOF COLORS AND THE WALL PANELS, WE CAN SEE THOSE AND LOOK THOSE UP ON OUR OWN IF WE NEED TO. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'LL WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, WHEN IT'S FORMALLY PRESENTED, IS THE DISCUSSION ON THE PLANTING PLAN, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. AND HOW THE -- HOW THE FACILITY IS BEING BUFFERED WITH THAT LANDSCAPING.

ANY TIME THAT WE HAVE BEEN REVIEWING METAL BUILDINGS, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE APPEARANCE OF A METAL BUILDING LOOKING LIKE A METAL BUILDING. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IN TERMS OF THE ARTICULATION OF THE EXTERIOR WALLS AND VISIBILITY AND SUCH.

BUT THOSE ARE JUST SOME GENERAL COMMENTS THAT I HAVE.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION HERE AND APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO SEE THIS AHEAD OF TIME.

AND ALISON IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS?

>> I JUST WASN'T TOTALLY SURE WHERE EXACTLY THIS IS LOCATED.

YOU MENTIONED ALONG SOLANO, SO IS IT -- THERE WAS ALWAYS A LAG BETWEEN THE SLIDE AND THE TALK. SO I HAD TROUBLE FOLLOWING.

WHERE EXACTLY IS IT LOCATED? >> THIS IS DON FULLERTON.

IT'S LOCATED I WOULD SAY ABOUT A QUARTER MILE WEST ON SOLANO BOULEVARD, PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD AS YOU HEAD WETION YOU'LL PASS THE SHOPPING CENTER PASS THE LOCANDOS AND THEN WE'RE RIGHT AFTER THAT.

>> AND HOW FAR IS IT SETH BACK? IS IT RIGHT ON THE ROAD?

>> NO, I THINK IT'S 50 FEET SET BACK FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

>> OKAY. >> AND HOW IS IT BEING SCREENED?

>> WE APPRECIATE THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS.

THE RENDERINGS ARE A PROJECTION OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND IT REFLECTS THE EXACT PLANT MATERIAL THAT WE'RE PLANTING WHICH IS SHRUBS AND TREES. JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION THE RENDERINGS REFLECT TWO YEAR GROWTH PLAN.

WE'RE CONCERNED WITH THE FAIRLY REALISTIC IMAGE OF WHAT THE

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>> OKAY GOOD. >> ALISON, THAT IS GOOD, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT YOU INCLUDE THAT THE APPLICANTS INCLUDE AN OVERALL SITE PLAN, OR AREA PLAN, FOR ORIENTATION.

THAT WILL HELP OUT QUITE A BIT FOR US.

>> YES. >> IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR WORKSHOP TODAY.

>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

IS I'D LIKE TO PROCEED WITH OUR WORKSHOP ITEM NUMBER 2, PUD

[2. PUD2019-10 Village Walk: Design review and discussion for updated site and building design.]

WOULD THE APPLICANTS PLEASE ANNOUNCE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS

PLEASE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, SID ONSBACHER. WE WERE OBVIOUSLY BEFORE YOU ALL ON THIS ITEM BEFORE. THIS HAS SEVERAL NAMES.

BUT VILLAGE WALK AT PONTE VEDRA, IT'S THE FOUR ACRE PARCEL JUST SOUTH OF THE TARGET CENTER. AND WE HAD LENGTHY IN-HOUSE DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE THE ARC ARCMEETING WHEN WE LAST DISCUSS THEY HAD ITEM. AND WE REACHED OUT AT MATT MITCHELL AT FOLEY DESIGN WHO HAS DONE ABOUT 30 YEARS' WORTH OF ARCHITECTURE FOR HOSPITALITY AND OTHER PROJECTS AT A PRETTY HIGH END AND BOUTIQUE LEVEL. AND MATT IS HERE TONIGHT IN ORDER TO DESCRIBE WHAT WE ARE BRINGING BACK AS A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU ALL RAISED BEFORE ABOUT IT BEING, FOR WANT OF A BETTER PHRASE, A JEJUN LOOKING PROJECT. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO I'LL

INTRODUCE MATT MITCHELL. >> THANKS SID.

I'M MATT MITCHELL. WHEN SLAYMAN APPROACHED US THEY HAD GONE THROUGH SOME PRELIMINARY STUDIES ON A PROJECT THAT HAD THE TWO SMALLER BUILDINGS, THAT WAS STYLISTICALLY SOMEWHAT SPANISH MEISNERESQUE.

AND WHAT THEY PASSED OFTEN TO ME WAS THAT THEY REALLY WANTED TO LOOK AT NOT JUST DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURE BUT HOW COULD THEY APPROACH A DIFFERENT SITE-PLANNING STRATEGY AS WELL.

>> HI MATT. GO AHEAD.

>> MICHAEL MCNOUGHTEN JUST STEPPED UP TO THE MANY MICROPHONE. WHAT WE DID WE STARTED -- ACTUALLY IF WE COULD GO TO THE OTHER FILE THAT IS THE PLANS.

YES, THAT ONE, PERFECT. >> YOU KNOW WHAT, WOULD YOU MIND IF I JUST TOOK A TWO MINUTE PRECURSOR TO KIND OF INTRODUCE THE RATIONALE, THE BUSINESS LOGIC, THE TENURE OF OWNERSHIP AND THE GENESIS OF THE IDEA TO BEGIN WITH.

SO HI, MY NAME IS MICHAEL MCNOUGHTEN, I'M CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF SLAYMAN ENTERPRISES.

I'VE BEEN IN THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT FOR 32.

SLAYMAN AHOLD COLLECTION OF LAND HOLDINGS THROUGHOUT NORTHEAST FLORIDA THIS BEING ONE. THIS RUX FOUR AND A HALF ACRE PARCEL IS WELL LOCATED ON A-1-A AND IS REALLY THE GATEWAY TO ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. AS A MATTER OF FACT THE TOMBSTONE OR MONUMENT WELCOMING THE PEOPLE TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY SITS IN FRONT OF THIS PROPERTY AS YOU COME SOUTH ON A-1-A.

FOR MANY YEARS THIS PROPERTY HAS SAT IN OUR INVENTORY KIND OF SEEKING A DIRECTION AND WE'VE DRAWN MANY DIFFERENT THINGS OVER THE YEARS, HISTORICALLY, WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION.

AND I BELIEVE WE ARE NOW AT A POINT WHERE, GIVEN CHANGES IN THE MARKET, ALL GOOD AND EXCITING, A DIRECTION WAS ABLE TO BE IDENTIFIED TO FIND WAY TO MAKE THIS PROPERTY USEFUL AND VIEBVIABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY, BH RESIDENTIAL AND BUSINESS

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AND I'M SPEAKING AND WORKING ON THIS PROJECT NOT ONLY AS A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE PRACTITIONER BUT A VERY INTERESTED RESIDENT. THE PURPOSE OF THE PROPERTY, AND ONE OF THE THOUGHTS, WAS GIVEN A FEW ISSUES.

NUMBER 1, THE COMPLETION OF THE PGA HEADQUARTERS ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF MILES AWAY. NUMBER 2, THE CONTINUED GROWTH IN THE JACKS BEACH CORRIDOR OF ADDITIONAL HOSPITALITY AND OTHER COMMERCIAL USES THAT WILL CONTINUE TO DRAW ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AWAY FROM THIS AREA. INTO SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND THEREFORE IN SOME WAYS SUPPRESSING CURRENT REVENUE AND, YOU KNOW, LOSING OUT ON NEW LAYERED REVENUE FOR THE COUNTY AND THE MUNICIPALITY. SO WITH THIS SITE AS ONE OF THE LAST REMAINING DEVELOPMENT SIETSD IN THE A-1-A CORRIDOR, WE WANTEDWANTED TO LOOK AT A WAY TO DEVELOP IF MARKET THAT WESTERN COMPETITIVE BUT COMPLEMENTARY, INCLUDING A HOSPITALITY USE OR HOTEL. WITH THE COMPLETION OF THE PGA THERE ARE LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO WILL BE CONSOLIDATING INTO THAT NEW BUILDING AND AS A RESULT OF THAT ABUNDANCE OF OFFICE SPACE WILL BE VACATED IN THE SURROUNDING MARKET AS THAT CONSOLIDATION TAKES HOLD. WE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT FORTH A TRADITIONAL OFFICE PRODUCT AS HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY CONTEMPLATED NOT ONLY FOR COMPETITIVE REASONS AND GLUTTING THE MARKET.

WE DECIDED THEREFORE TO BE COMPLEMENTARY TO NOT ONLY THE CONSOLIDATED PGA BUILDING BUT THE USES COMING TO THE AREA BACKFILLING WHAT WAS BE LEFT BY PGA.

WE LOOKED WHAT WAS MISSING IN THE MARKET AND HOW TO BE COMPLEMENTARY TO THAT. WITH THAT I'VE CONTACTED MATT, WHOM I'VE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST, A WELL RESPECTED MASTER PLAN ARCHITECT WHO HAS A GREAT NATIONAL REPUTATION AND I CHALLENGED HIM TO COME UP WITH A VARIETY OF USES THAT COULD FIT WITHIN WHAT IS A NONTRADITIONAL PARCEL, TO SAY THE LEAST.

AND FRANKLY, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH I THINK MATT HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK. I'LL LET HIM GO THROUGH THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SITE, HOW HE ARRIVED AT THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN DETAIL, HIS CARE AND RESEARCH OF THE AREA, BOTH ARCHITECTURALLY AND YOU KNOW TEXTURES AND COASTAL FEELINGS AND ARCHITECTURAL STYLES THAT WE FEEL WOULD WORK WELL WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS PERHAPS MOST ENCOURAGING WAS THE INITIAL MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH LOCAL LEADERS WHO CHALLENGED US TO DESIGN A PROJECT INDICATIVE OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF NOT ONLY ONE OF THE LAST DEVELOPMENT SITES AVAILABLE IN THIS ENTIRE CORRIDOR FROM PONTE VEDRA TO ST.

AUGUSTINE BUT GIVEN THE FONDNESS AND INSPIRATION OF THE PG AFERLT PGABUILDING BUT THE IDEA THAT ARCHITECTURAL COULD CREATE SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL, WE WERE ASKED SINCE THE SITE WAS A GATEWAY SITE, TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS AN ICON OR A VERY MEMORABLE OPPORTUNITY IN A VERY GOOD WAY, I MIGHT SAY, AS YOU ENTERED ST. JOHNS COUNTY. AND IT REALLY SET A TONE BEYOND THE TRADITIONAL OLDER DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS OF SLOPED ROOFS AND LOWER ELEVATED HUT-TYPE BUILDINGS.

SO WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MATT, WHO CAN TALK THROUGH HIS RATIONALE AND DESIGN ESTHETIC.

THANKS. >> THANKS MICHAEL, VERY WELL SAID. SO THE FIRST THING WHEN APPROACHING ONE OF THESE MIXED USE PROJECTS, IS TO FIRST FIGURE OUT HOW THE SITE WANTS TO LAY OUT BASED ON THE ORDINANCE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS PUSHING AND PULLING ON THE SITE, THERE ARE THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND TO

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BUT ONCE WE'VE GOTTEN AN UNDERSTANDING OF THAT SITE THEN WE WANT TO SAY HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT, I GUESS FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, THERE'S A THERE, THERE.

WHAT IS IT THAT IS GOING TO MAKE THIS A PLACE, AS OPPOSED TO JUST A COLLECTION OF BUILDINGS? BECAUSE IF WE DON'T FIRST MAKE IT A PLACE THEN NOBODY'S GOING TO CARE WHAT THE BUILDINGS LOOK LIKE BECAUSE NOBODY'S GOING TO BE THERE.

THE FIRST IDEA WAS, WELL, THE HOTEL NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE BACK PORTION OF THE SITE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE MORE PRIVATE. THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE MORE QUIET, THAT'S WHERE THE ROOMS WILL BE MORE ISOLATED FROM THE ACTIVITY THAT'S HAPPENING FROM THE MIXED USE PORTION THAT HAPPENS UP IN THE NORTHERN SECTION OF THE SITE.

WE WERE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THIS IDEA OF THIS COMMONS AREA, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IMMEDIATELY BELOW THE RETAIL BUILDING.

AND THAT'S REALLY AN EXTERIOR SPACE THAT CAN PERFORM A LOT OF DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS. IT CAN BE A GATHERING SPACE, CAN YOU DO OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, IT CAN BE SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU CAN JUST HANG OUT. IT CAN BE SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE YOUR DOG, YOU CAN PLAY ANY MAR MANNER OF CORN HOLE TOURNAMENTS. AND THE IDEA WAS THAT WHOLE THING BECOMES THE CENTER OF ACTIVITY FOR THIS PROJECT.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT, IN ORDER TO CREATE A PLACE THERE, WE HAVE TO THINK OF HOW DO WE STACK THIS THING VERT CAN CLI? ONCE YOU CREATE AN AMETROPOLITAN LIKE THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE CAN EXPERIENCE IT FROM HEIGHTS.

A JEWEL BOX WHICH IS TYPICALLY A SMALLER RESTAURANT OR A DESSERT PLACE, SOMETIMES IT'S A -- WE HAVE JUST ARE RENDERED IT AS A TAPAS BAR, ON THE EAST END, WEST END WE ANCHORED IT WITH THE HOTEL LOBBY. THE NEXT PLAN, THAT IS ME ACTUALLY. SO THE NEXT PLAN GOES UP ONE LEVEL AND YOU GET TO A ROOF TERRACE WHICH IS ON THE ROOF OF THE RETAIL. THAT COULD SERVE AS OUTDOOR AMENITY SPACE FOR EITHER RESTAURANT OAR ADDITIONAL RETAIL OR OFFICE TENANTS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

AND THEN ON THE WEST END ON TOP OF THE HOTEL LOBBY, WE'VE GOT THE OUTDOOR AMENITY SPACE FOR THE MEETING ROOMS FOR THE HOTEL.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, WE'VE BRACKETED THIS SPACE FROM TWO LEVELS, THE RETAIL ON THE GROUND FLOOR OPENS UP TO THE HOTEL LOBBY OPENS UP TO THE GROUND FLOOR AND THEN ROOF SPACES LOOKING DOWN INTO IT. THAT CREATES A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AND A LOT OF ACTIVITY AROUND THAT AMENITY SPACE ON THE GROUND. WHEN WE GO UP ONE MORE LEVEL WE GET TO JUST THE HOTEL ROOMS ON THE THIRD FLOOR BUT AGAIN THEY'RE PUSHED MORE BACK INTO THE SITE SO THEY ARE MORE PRIVATIZED. ONCE WE ESTABLISHED THE FRAMEWORK FOR THE PLAN WHICH IS WHAT THESE SKETCHES ARE THEN WE START TO SAY WHAT IS IT ABOUT IT THIS SPACE OR THIS PLACE THAT WE CAN INFORM THE ARCHITECTURE? WE DID OUR OWN INFORMAL HISTORY, AND IT IS A VERY DIVERSE ARCHITECTURE.

WE HAVE PAUL REU DISOFL HERE, WE HAVE GOT THE MARRIOTT, WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY GOES THE PGA, AND THE HISTORY THAT PONTE VEDRA STARTED OIL AS A MINING TOWN, AND SOMEBODY SAID, WE WANT TO MAKE THIS AS A VACATION SPACE, WE LIKE PONTE VEDRA IN SPAIN AND LET'S RENAME THAT AND PULL SOME OF THE CHARACTER FROM THAT.

THERE IMAGES ARE ACTUALLY OF PONTE VEDRA SPAIN AND THE OLD BRIDGE OR P PONTE VEDRA IN SPAI. WE'VE ALSO GOT THIS INTERESTING MIX OF MODERN AND CONTEMPORARY THINGS HAPPENING, WITH SOME OF THE HOUSES THAT ARE HERE, SOME OF THE SMALLER DEVELOPMENT IN ADDITION TO MORE SIMPLIFIED MEDITERRANEAN.

SO I'M ACTUALLY FROM SOUTH FLORIDA BORN AND RAISED AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME ALONG THE BEACH, A LOT OF TIME IN FLORIDA.

AND WAS VERY EXCITED ACTUALLY TO GET BACK INTO IT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT MEDITERRANEAN FLORIDA ARCHITECTURE IS THE USE OF THE ARCH.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE KNEW WE WANTED TO INCLUDE.

BUT WE ALSO KNEW WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT SO LITERAL AND NOT SO SPANISH FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.

SO THEN WE SAY WELL WHAT DO THE SPACES WANT TO START TO FEEL LIKE? AND WE START TO LOOK AT HOW WE STACK SOME OF THESE SPACES. AT THE TOP LEFT YOU CAN SEE KIND OF A POP-UP. THAT COULD BE AN IDEA FOR THE JEWEL BOX. THE TOP MIDDLE IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THESE OUTDOOR AMENITY SPACES. THERE IS A LOT OF ROOFTOP AMENITY PICTURES IN HERE AND THEN DOWN ALONG THE BOTTOM WE'VE

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IT'S ALL BEAUTIFUL. IT'S REALLY SOMETHING STRONG TO INTEGRATE INTO THE ARCHITECTURE. SO THE IDEA OF THESE ITALIAN CYPRESSES WHICH CAN CREATE BOTH A COLONNADE AND A SCREEN, AND THE IDEA OF INTEGRATING LANDSCAPING AND PLANTING INTO THE BUILDINGS, SO THAT WE CREATE THESE TERRACES LANDSCAPED GUARANTEES ESSENTIALLY ALONG THE FACE OF THE BUILDINGS IS WHAT THIS SLIDE TALKS ABOUT. SO THAT IS JUST ONE OF THE VIEWS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, IF YOU COULD OPEN UP THE OTHER RENDERING FILE AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS ONE. THE FIRST ONE, THERE YOU GO.

THIS IS AN OVERALL DRONE SLOT FROM A-1-A.

YOU CAN SEE HOW THE PROJECT STACKS.

>> YOU'RE REFERENCING THE TARGET PUBLIC ANCHORED SHOPPING CENTER.

>> YES. AND THEN THE TOP LEFT IS ACTUALLY THE HOTEL. AND THEN YOUR RETAIL AND MIXED USE BUILDING HAPPENS ALONG THE TOP RIGHT AND CAN YOU SEE YOUR YOU CAN SEE YOURJEWEL BOX IN TH. GATHERING AREAS AND SEATING AREAS SHIELDED FROM THE SUN. AND THEN WE'VE DEVELOPED DIFFERENT AREAS. THIS IS ACTUALLY IN FRONT OF THE HOTEL, THE ARCHED PIECE IS ACTUALLY THE HOTEL LOBBY.

AND THERE IS THIS GATHERING SPACE IN FRONT OF IT.

AND THEN THERE IS A CONNECTION BETWEEN THE ROOFTOP OF THE RETAIL BUILDING AND THE ROOFTOP OF THE LOBBY, WHICH IS YOUR MEETING AMENITY, WITH THIS BRIDGE AND A GRAND STAIR THAT TIES THEM TOGETHER VERTICALLY. AND THEN THIS IS YOUR VIEW FROM THAT HOTEL AMENITY HE DECK LOOKING DOWN THROUGH COMMONS WITH YOUR TENANT SPACE ALONG THE LEFT AND THEN YOUR ROOF TERRACE SEATING AREAS ON THE TOP LEFT. AND THIN TAND THEN THIS IS THE E JEWEL BOX WOULD BE DOWN TO YOUR RIGHT AND THEN YOU ARE DOWN IN THE COMMONS. IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE PRIOR ONE WE'VE GOT SOME ADDITIONAL VIEWS.

YES, THE OTHER ONE, PERFECT. OH, THAT ONE, NO, YOU WERE RIGHT, GO BACK TO THAT ONE, YEP. AND SO SOME OF THESE VIEWS ARE NOT AS WELL RENDERED BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST SKETCH-UP VIEWS BUT IT GIVES YOU OVERVIEW IMAGES TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF SOME OF THESE SPACES. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE ROOFTOP ON THE RETAIL BUILDING, THIS IS ALSO THAT YOU CAN SEE HOW WE'VE INTEGRATED THE SHADE STRUCTURES WITH THE TRELLIS WITH SOME LANDSCAPING, SOME GROWING THEM ALONG CABLES TO AGAIN PROTECT SOME OF THE PATRONS FROM THE SUN.

AND THAT'S WITHIN THE HOTEL LOBBY AND THERE IS YOUR OVERALL.

AGAIN YOUR HOTEL IS TO THE LEFT, YOUR RETAIL BUILDING IS TO THE RIGHT. DOWN WITHIN THE COMMONS, WE'VE GOT THESE CANOPIES THAT PROVIDE SHADE AND COVER, AND THEN FROM A MATERIAL STANDPOINT, THE IDEA IS TO INTEGRATE BOTH HARD COAT STUCCO AND SOME STONE, PREFERABLY REAL STONE, BUT THAT WE WOULD DO A VERY SUBDUED COLOR PALLET IN AN IVORY OR A BONE.

THE IDEA TO DRAW IN SOMETHING LIKE WORTH AVENUE, SOMETHING THAT FEELS INHERENTLY MORE SOPHISTICATED AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT FEELS NOR, SOMEWHAT, 90'S STRIP RETAIL.

>> THE ABILITY TO WE WEAVE THESE TOGETHER, WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT, AND I THOUGHT MATT DID A GREAT JOB, OF LINKING THESE TWO PIECES TOGETHER TO REALLY FORM A SINGULAR EXPERIENCE. WHETHER YOU'RE THERE FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER OR PERHAPS TO RETAIN THAT TYPE OF ECONOMIC ACTIVITY WITHIN THE PROJECT OR THE COMMUNITY, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING IT EXIT THE PROJECT, SEEKING EXPERIENCES ELSEWHERE.

SO OUR GOAL WAS TO ACCOMMODATE BUSINESS AS IT CONTINUES TO IDENTIFY OR CONTEMPLATE RELOCATING TO THIS AREA, AS A

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AND HOW DO WE HELP NOT ONLY RETAIN THAT ECONOMIC TRANSACTIONAL ACTIVITY HERE LOCALLY, BUT ACCELERATE THE ABSORPTION OF THAT VACANCY, REALLY RAISING THE WATER MARK FOR ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT THE PGA LEAVES BEHIND IN THE MARKET BY OFFERING THOSE BUSINESSES AN INTERESTING ALTERNATIVE, AND AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE AND RELOCATE HERE, KNOWING THAT THERE IS THESE TYPES OF AMENITIES WITHIN THE

IMMEDIATE AREA. >> YES, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED IS, THE CONCEPT OF DWELL TIME.

SHSHOPPING IS NO LONGER DRIVE UP TO THE FRONT OF A RETAIL CENTER, GET OUT AND GET EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED.

PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR EXPERIENCES AND FOR PLACES TO BE AS OPPOSED TO JUST PLACES TO SHOP WITH THE ADVENT OF ONLINE RETAIL. SO RESTAURANTS, ACTIVITIES, AND DWELL TIME ARE CRUCIAL TO THE SUCCESS OF A PROJECT.

AND TO THE SUCCESS OF ANYTHING WITHIN ANY KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD SETTING. SO BY ADDING ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT SPACES AND BY ADDING ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT USES AND THE VERTICAL INTEGRATION OF ALL OF THEM WE THINK THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH A GOOD MIX THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WILL JUST WANT TO GO TO. AND AS SUCH, SLAYMAN WOULD WORK ON PROGRAMMING THESE SPACES WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE ACTIVITIES, WHERE WOULD YOU HAVE THINGS GOING ON SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY JUST GO THERE BECAUSE THEY ARE INTERESTED IN BUYING A WIDGET, THEY GO BECAUSE THEY ARE INTERESTED IN BRINGING

THEIR FAMILIES. >> THE COMBINATION OF USES IN WHAT IS WHILE HORIZONTALLY ORIENTED GIVEN THE HEIGHT CONSTRAINTS, A DIFFERENT DAY PARTS, DIFFERENT TIMES OF ACTIVITY AND DIFFERENT WAYS THAT KIT MEET THE NEEDS OF BOTH THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THAT WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE SITE, GENERALLY, AND BE ABLE TO ADD IT TOGETHER, IN SOMETHING THAT'S COMPELLING, BEAUTIFUL, AND WOULD BE, WE BELIEVE, HI HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL IN ACCOMMODATING THE

NEEDS OF THE MARKET. >> AND JUST A FEW MORE VIEWS GOING THROUGH THE SPACES. WE'LL GIVE THESE VIEWS TO YOU GUYS SO YOU CAN STUDY THEM ON YOUR OWN.

ONE THING I DIDN'T ADDRESS IS THE HOTEL IS THE REFERENCE NOT PONTE VEDRA, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE ARCHES AND THE VERTICAL PILASTERS. AND THAT'S IT.

THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE. >> THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THIS INFORMATION TODAY. AND WE DO LOOK FORWARD TO RECEIVING THE REST OF THESE IMAGES AS WE HAD ONLY HAD A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THE INSPIRATIONAL PHOTOGRAPHS AND A LEVEL 3 SITE PLAN, SO THIS HELPS ME UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. I THINK THAT YOU PRESENTED THE

MIXED USE. >>USE IN A GOOD FASHION.CERTAINE RESEARCH ON THE INSPIRATIONAL IMAGES, MY THOUGHT ON WHAT I SEE IN THE FIRST ROUND OF DESIGN IS THAT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE TRIED TO JUST TAKE ABOUT EVERY -- SOMETHING FROM EVERY ONE OF THOSE IMAGES AND PUT IT INTO THIS SITE.

AND I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING HOW IT'S REALLY A COMPREHENSIVE CONFLICTS THERE. BECAUSE AS YOU WERE GOING THROUGH IT, GRANTED I HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF TIME TO STUDY THESE IMAGES. BUT IT'S LIKE SNATC SNAPSHOTS OW ARCHITECTURE WITH CHARACTERISTICS OF THE IMAGES.

BUT THERE WASN'T ANYTHING MUCH TO TIE IT TOGETHER INSTEAD OF THE COLORS OR NATURE OF ARCHES OR CANOPIES.

SO THAT'S ONE COMMENT THAT I'D OFFER.

THE THING THAT I THINK THAT IN PREPARATION FOR MOVING THIS FORWARD IN FRONT OF THE COMMITTEE IS TALKING MORE ABOUT THE FORM AND STRUCTURE OF THESE ELEMENTS.

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AND HOW DO YOU GET SERVICE VEHICLES IN THERE? AND HOW DOES THAT MIX WITH GOING THROUGH ALL OF THIS PARKING AROUND -- CIRCULATING AROUND THE BUILDING.

IT'S PRETTY TIGHT. I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO BE WANTING TO COMPETE WITH A TRAILER DELIVERING FOOD AND SUCH, AND A TRASH TRUCK IN THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING TO STAY A LOOK AT.

AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOT A LOT OF DESIGN WORK TO GO.

BUT JUST PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HAD OFFERED UP BEFORE, IN TERMS OF THE ACCESSIBILITY TO THE SITE, THE NEIGHBORS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING TO BE BACKING UP TO THIS AND BRING THAT UP FOR US AS WELL.

I THOUGHT THERE WERE SOME UNBUILDABLE AREAS ON THE SITE OR SOME VERY COMPLEX DRAINAGE ISSUES.

I COULD BE WRONG. I COULD BE MISTAKEN.

BUT THOSE ARE THE COMMENTS THAT I WOULD HAVE TO OFFER.

AND ALISON IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS PLEASE FEEL FREE.

>> NO. I AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT YOU SAID. I'VE BEEN CONCERNED FROM DAY 1 THAT THIS IS A LOT TO PUT ON THAT PROPERTY.

BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION AND ACCESSIBILITY, I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT THIS IS JUST JUMBLING UP PONTE VEDRA.

I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DESIGN OF IT AS BEING THE FIRST THING YOU SEE WHEN YOU COME INTO PONTE VEDRA.

I'M IN FAVOR OF CONTEMPORARY LOOKING MODERN THINGS BUT JUST NOT -- I'D LIKE TO STUDY IT A LITTLE MORE AND REALLY GET SOME SENSE OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

>> OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS INITIALLY? I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS FROM YOU BOTH. IT'S GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU AGAIN. DO YOU HAVE ANY INITIAL THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT SPECIFICALLY YOU'RE ADVERSE TO OR WHERE WE COULD FOCUS OUR ENERGIES TO RETAIN THE SPIRIT OF ITS FUNCTIONALITY BUT PERHAPS FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE SOFTEN ITS VISUAL

APPEAL? >> WELL, IT COULD JUST BE THAT IT'S NOT REFINED YES. YET.

BUT TO ME, WHILE THE -- WHILE THE -- IT'S TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT A LOT OF THOSE HISTORICAL REFERENCES, IT FOR SOME REASON IS JUST NOT COMING TOGETHER FOR ME.

AND MAYBE AIT'S BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT IT ON A SCREEN AND HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REALLY WALK THROUGH THE WHOLE FULL SITE AND SUCH. BUT IT JUST SEEMS KIND OF

HARD -- A LITTLE TOO HARD-EDGED. >> I AGREE WITH THAT, YES.

IT'S NOT REAL APPEALING TO ME. >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT SOME SOFTENING ELEMENTS, PERHAPS LESS VERTICALITY, A LITTLE MORE NUANCED, PERHAPS. UNDERSTOOD.

OKAY. IS MATT.

>> I THINK SOMEHOW TO BE ABLE TE TO COMMUNICATE IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT'S MORE OF A PEDESTRIAN SCALE, THAN -- AND I KNOW THERE ARE IMAGES IN THERE THAT SHOW THAT, BUT I'M JUST NOT CONVINCED THAT THIS, YOU KNOW, EIGHT OR SO FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK AND THE CARS, IS THE RIGHT TRANSITION FROM GETTING OUT OF MY VEHICLE INTO THAT SITE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SIDEWALK THAT IS AROUND THE PERIMETER, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT EDGY.

BUT THAT'S MY OBSERVATION, AND I'M SURE THAT THE OTHER MEMBERS, WHEN IT'S PRESENTED, WILL ALSO HAVE SOME GOOD COMMENTS FOR YOU.

>> OKAY. >> APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> WELL, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE WORKSHOP TODAY. AND I COULD SEE THAT THERE IS A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM FOR THIS. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT COMING

TO THE COMMITTEE. >> OKAY.

THANKS GUYS. ANYTHING ELSE? GREAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND FOR THE COMMITMENT OF YOUR TIME DOING THIS ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITIES. ALWAYS VERY IMPORTANT AND

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>> THANK YOU. >> JACOB I GUESS THAT WE CAN

INFORMALLY OR FORMALLY ADJOURN. >> YES, SIR.

IF I COULD DO JUST A QUICK HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.

OBVIOUSLY, DUE TO OUR LACK OF QUORUM TODAY WE'RE NOT ABLE TO VOTE ON THAT FIRST AGENDA ITEM. THE GENERAL PROCEDURE IS TO TRY TO HAVE A MEETING WITHIN THE NEXT TEN DAYS.

AND SO JUST PLEASE BE AWARE THAT I WILL PROBABLY BE REACHING BACK OUT TO YOU GUYS TO TRY TOO ESTABLTOSTABILITY A QUORUM SO TE ESTABLISH A QUORUM SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE SIR.

>> THANK YOU JACOB. ALISON.

>> IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD.

IT SEEMS LIKE OUR MEETINGS HAVE BEEN SPARSELY ATTENDED.

WE HAVE TO GET A COMMITMENT FROM PEOPLE AHEAD OF TIME AND

ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE. >> I ABSOLUTELY AGREE ALISON,

IT'S BEEN VERY TOUGH-GOING. >> YES, IT IS.

AND THIS ISN'T THE IDEAL WAY TO DO IT.

IT'S SO HARD TO FOLLOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE SCREEN, THE LAG TIME BETWEEN THE TALKING AND THE SLIDES.

BUT WE'LL MUDDLE THROUGH. >> YES, MA'AM, AND JUST AS -- WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING INTERNALLY ABOUT SOME ALTERNATIVE MEETING METHODS. SO WE MAY BE GOING THAT ROUTE.

THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED AT THIS POINT.

BUT WE MIGHT END UP TRANSITION IS TO ZOOM ONLY AND GETTING OUT OF THIS AUDITORIUM. BUT AGAIN THAT IS CURRENTLY TO

BE DETERMINED. >> IT WOULD BE SO NICE IF WE COULD GO BACK TO MEETING IN PERSON.

HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED AT ALL? >> YOU KNOW IT CERTAINLY ISN'T A CONCERN OF MINE OR AT LEAST THE PLANNING STAFF WITH IT.

I THINK MOST RECENTLY WE'VE HAD AN ISSUE GETTING ACCESS TO SOME OF THE FACILITIES IN PONTE VEDRA.

AND I KNOW THAT AT LEAST INITIALLY AND I'LL CERTAINLY LOOK BACK INTO THAT BUT I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A KIND OF A HAMSTRING WHERE WE ENDED UP DOWN HERE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING'S CHANGED BUT I'LL CERTAINLY LOOK BACK INTO IT AND SEE IF WE HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE FACILITIES AGAIN.

>> OKAY, GOOD. >> OKAY, THEN --

>> IS THAT IT? >> THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING

THIS EVENING. >> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

>> OKAY, THANKS. >> BYE.

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