Aug 06, 2020 Planning and Zoning Agency

[Call meeting to order.]

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>> THE AGENCY FOR AUGUST 6TH, 2. I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TR HERE.

AND THERE ARE SOME PAPERWORK TOO THROUGH HERE. CONFIRMING MEMBER ACCESS.

AS A PRELIMINARY MATTER I AM MIE KOPPENHAFER CHAIR OF THE PLANNID ZONING AGENCY.

PERMIT ME TO CONFIRM THAT ANY AD STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT PHYSIY PRESENT CAN HEAR ME.

FELLOW ACCESSIBLE MEMBERS, WHENL YOUR NAME, PLEASE RESPOND IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE ROLL CA. DR. MCCORMICK. >> I'M HERE.

>> DR. . DR. HILSENBECK. >> PRESENT.

>> MR. WAYNE WARREN. >> YES. >> MS. PENSIONS ARE PERKINS.

>> PRESENT. >> MR. ALAIMO. >> PRESENT.

>> AND MR. MATOVINA. >> I'M HERE. >> GREAT.

WE HAVE A FULL HOUSE TODAY. COUNTY STAFF, EL WA HAVE THEM GR NAMES AS THEY APPROACH OR MAKE A PRESENTATION. INTRODUCTION TO MEETING INCLUDIE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO TS REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNINGD ZONING AGENCY.

IN ORDER TO MITIGATE THE TRANSMF THE CORONAVIRUS AND THE REDUCE K OF COVID-19 ILLNESS, THE GOVERNS SUSPENDED THE REQUIREMENT OF A L QUORUM AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAS ADOPTED PROCEO CONDUCT MEETING USING REMOTE PARTICIPATION THROUGH EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION NUMBER 2020-3 SO TE PUBLIC HAS A MEANS TO COMMENT DG WITHOUT PHYSICALLY ATTENDING. ALONG WITH PRIOR COMMUNICATIONS, INCLUDING EMAIL, THE PUBLIC WILE ABLE TO COMMENT BY TELEPHONE WHE WATCHING THE MEETING VIA GTV ORY STREAMING POSTED ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE. THE WEBSITE ALSO PROVIDES THE TE NUMBERS TO USE TO CALL INTO THE. EVEN IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DT PROVIDE COMMENT, PARTICIPANTS AE ADVISED THAT PEOPLE MAY BE LISTO DID NOT PROVIDE COMMENT, AND THE PERSONS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO IDEY THEMSELVES. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS MEETING IG RECORDED.

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FINALLY, IF ANY MEMBER OF THE BS PARTICIPATE REMOTELY, THEN EACHS TAKEN IN THIS MEETING WILL BE CD BY A ROLL CALL VOTE. THAT IS THE FUN BEGINNING OF THE PAPERWORK.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A READIE IS YOU PUBLIC NOTICE BY THE VICR >> \ PUBLIC NOTICE.

THIS IS A PROPER NOTICED PUBLICG HELD IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW.

THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TE AGENCY'S AREA OF JURISDICTION AE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUO OFFER COMMENTS AT A DESIGNATED E DURING THE HEARING.

ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC DESIRI SPEAK MUST INDICATE DOUGH BY COA SPEAKER CAR WHICH IS SNRAIBILIT.

ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS MAY BE D ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CN SPEAKER CARDS MAY BE TURNED IN .

THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIMG THE MEETING ON ITEM AND TO A LEF TIME THAT'S SPECIFIED BY THE CH WHICH SHALL BE THREE MINUTES. SPEAKERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSEO THEY REPRESENT, AND THEN STATE R ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SPEAKER'S MAY OFFER SWORN TESTI. IF THEY DO NOT, THE FACT THAT TY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED E AGENCY IN DETERMINING THE WEIGHR TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY II. IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL AY DECISION MADE WITH RESPECT TO AY MATTER CONSIDERED AT THE HEARING, SUCH PERSON WILL NEED A RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AND MAY

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IF SUCH COMMUNICATION HAS OCCURE AGENCY MEMBER SHOULD THEN IDENT PERSON INVOLVED AND THE MATERIAT OF THE COMMUNICATION IV. CIVILITY CLAUSE.

WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANR EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE. WE SHALL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TOE

ISSUES. WE WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS. >> THANK YOU, MR. WAINRIGHT.

UP NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. THIS IS A TIME WHERE THE PUBLICN SPEAK ON ANYTHING THAT IS NOT OE AGENDA TODAY. ANYONE? DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE FOR PUC

COMMENTS? >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS, . WE HAVE SOME MEETING MINUTES FRM MAY 21ST TO APPROVE.

[Approval of meeting minutes for PZA 5/21/20.]

PROVE. >> I'D OFFER A MOTION TO APPROV. >> WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. WA.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A SECOND. THE ROLL CALL VOTE TO APPROVE MG MINUTES, DR. HILSENBECK.

>> YES. >> ARCHIE. >> YES.

>> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MS. PERKINS. >> YES.

>> MR. ALAIMO. >> YES. >> MR. MATOVINA.

>> YES. >> AND DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. MEETING MINUTES ARE APPROVED. IN THE FILING CABINET THEY GO.

UP NEXT, ITEM NUMBER 1. WE HAVE LONE PALM VENTURES. >> MAY I OFFER EX PARTE HERE?

[1. SUPMAJ 2020-05 Lone Palm Ventures.]

>> YOU MAY. >> I VISITED THE SITE YESTERDAY. >> THANK YOU.

LET'S GO THROUGH THE ROLL CALL O EX PARTE. WE'LL DO IT FOR EVERY ONE OF TH.

DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES, I DROVE BY THE PROPERTY YESTERDAY.

>> MR. WAINRIGHT SAID YES. MR. KOPPENHAFER HAS NONE. MS. PERKINS.

>> NONE. >> MR. ALAIMO. >> NONE.

>> THANK YOU. MR. MATOVINA. >> NO.

>> AND DR. MCCORMICK. >> NO. >> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. HOW ARE YOU TODAY?

YOU MAY SPEAK, YES. >> I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE SPO ME.

I'M SO SORRY. >> I'VE GOT THIS GIANT THING INF ME.

THIS IS A CAMERA THAT'S ALSO FON THE MIDDLE OF THAT AND YOU CAN A LITTLE SORT OF A BORDER IN THATP

THERE IF YOU EVER WANT TO PRESET ANYTHING THAT'S WITHIN YOUR PAC. >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS DWAYNE NICHOLS. I'M HERE REPRESENTING LONE PALM ADVENTURES. MY ADDRESS IS 9465 COWPEN BRANC, HASTINGS, FLORIDA.

I COME BEFORE YOU FOR AN ADDITIA LARGE PLACE OF ASSEMBLY IN CONJN WITH SPECIAL EVENTS AND FESTIVA.

AT THE SAME TIME, MAINLY BECAUSF THE EVENTS ARE NOT GOING TO BE 501C.C3S, I'M ALSO ASKING ON GET APPROVAL ON THE ON-SITE COMING CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERA, SPECIFICALLY STATE OF FLORIDA TE 2CROP, PEER/WINE BEER/WINE O. WHAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW IS THE LT OF THE LOCATION OF WHERE I'M AT.

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SO MY CLOSEST NEIGHBOR, PER SE,E A MILE AWAY FROM ME. SO WE'VE HAD NO ISSUES IN THE PN THE ACTIVITY THAT WE HAVE DONE,D WHICH VERY IRONIC, WITH THIS CO9 GOING ON, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS ISN MORE THAN I EVER DREAMED OF AS S HAVING A PLACE THAT CAN HANDLE H PEOPLE AND STILL DEAL WITH YOURE DISTANCING. I MEAN, IF THEY CAN PUT 30,000 T FRANCIS FIELD, AND THAT'S LIKE N ACRES, ME PUTTING 2200 TO 3,000E IN SEVEN ACRES, THERE'S PLENTY M SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE SOME, WHICH IS REALLY A BLESSING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, THE WR MANAGEMENT HAD SENT A PROPOSAL Y WERE GOING TO DO. THEY ARE THE PROPERTY BEHIND ME.

THEY ARE TURNING IT INTO A RECRL AREA. SO IT WOULD BE AN ABILITY OF MUE THINGS BEING ABLE TO HAPPEN AT E TIME ON THE PROPERTY. THE ZONING THAT I HAVE IS OPEN G INTENSIVE, SO IT KIND OF OPENS E OF WHAT I'M ABLE TO DO AND STILT CREATE ANY AGGRAVATIONS OR PROB.

NOW, THE AERIAL MAP SHOWS YOU PY MUCH MY PROPERTY. I OWN DIRECTLY SPEAKING A QUARTE BY QUARTER MILE. NOW, ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHICH WE TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, IS WHERE WEE GOING TO BE DOING THE ACTIVITIE. AND THE NORTH SIDE IS WHERE WE E DOING THE CAMPING.

AND PARKING UP FRONT AND IN BET. SO THAT THERE'S NO, NO ISSUES WH PEOPLE GETTING TO THEIR CAR, HAO WALK THROUGH SOMEBODY'S CAMPSITR WHATEVER. NOW, THE CAMPING AREA IS ROUGHLT AT 15 ACRES, SO AGAIN, I'M ABLEE SEVERAL HUNDRED PEOPLE CAMPING L HAVE SAFE DISTANCING BECAUSE OFT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. AGAIN, I STILL SAY IT'S A BLESST THE WAY WE LAID IT OUT AND EVERG HAPPENING IS JUST -- TO ME IT'ST UNBELIEVABLE. THE SITE PLAN GIVES YOU A LITTLR IDEA OF WHAT I WAS SPEAKING OF. THE SOUTH WOULD BE TO THE LEFT,D NORTH WOULD BE TO THE RIGHT, EAT STRAIGHT UP -- OR WEST STRAIGHTT STRAIGHT DOWN. NOW, SOME OF THE ADDED THINGS TE COME UP IN SOME OF OUR INITIAL , WHO WOULD HAVE EVER THUNK THAT N MOVIES WERE COMING BACK, AND THD GET PEOPLE WHERE THEY COULD AT T HAVE SOMETHING AND NOT BE -- THE EVERYTHNG SET UP SO WE THEORETIY COULD DO, EVEN AS FAR AS THE DRN MOVIE AS ANOTHER ADDED FEATURE. NOW, THAT WASN'T IN THE BEGINNIG THOUGHT OF, BUT AS THINGS HAVE PROGRESSED, IT HAS. NOW, WHEN I WAS HERE LAST TIME,I LEFT, I GOT WITH RYAN MURPHY FRM IF I THEY'RE AM PI THEATER BECAUSE THEY HAD

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WE DID PRETTY MUCH AS HE ASKED,E AREA FOR THE AFTER-HOURS IS ROUY ABOUT 5 ACRES THAT WE'RE GOING T RIGHT THERE BY THE CENTER STAGEH WOULD BE THE SQUARE TO THE RIGHR HERE WHERE IT SAYS "STAGE." YEAH, RIGHT IN THERE. SO AGAIN, OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE CROPPEDZ UP THAT HAVE DONE WELL.

NOW, I WOULD ALSO ASK A SPECIALT FOR THE WAIVER. I HAVE A FARM, AND WE HAVE DONEN A BOARD FENCE, AND WE ASKED THAT A WAIVER FROM THE CONCRETE WALLE I'M STILL TRYING TO KEEP IT INTM AND ENVIRONMENT AND I'M THERE OE A MONTH AND AT THE MOST MAYBE EA YEAR, I FEEL THAT THERE'S REALLO NECESSITY FOR THE CONCRETE WALLE PICTURES. NOW, GO BACK TWO, IF YOU DON'T .

RIGHT THERE. IF YOU WILL LOOK IN THE PICTUREE LEFT, YOU WILL SEE THING LONE PT WE GOT OUR NAME FROM. IT'S THE ONLY ONE ON THE PROPER. BUT -- [LAUGHTER] BUT LIKE I SAY, WHEN WE DID OURR FESTIVAL, THERE ARE NO ISSUES.

WE HAVE DONE SMALL THINGS WITH , SOME WEDDINGS AND SOME GRADUATI. NOW, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING IE ABOUT THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF Y BECAUSE WE WERE INUNDATED WITH T RAIN.

I MEAN, WE WERE JUST PLASTERED. WE HAD A WEDDING THAT WE HAD SE, BEAUTIFUL, AND AT 4:00 THAT AFT- THE THING WAS SUPPOSED TO STARTT 5:30 -- WE DO THE GOT DRENCHED H 2 INCHES OF RAIN.

I MEAN, IT WAS JUST THAT TIME O. BASICALLY IT DIDN'T MATTER WHATU TRIED TO DO, YOU'RE GOING TO GED ON. AT THIS POINT I DO BELIEVE THATE WAY WE'VE GOT THINGS SET UP, THY WE'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT, I TH, AGAIN, AS BEFORE, IT'S A PERFECT SCENARIO FOR THE COUNTY AS FAR N

ADDED ENVIRONMENT FOR THINGS FOE TO DO. >> ALL RIGHT.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU. >> YES, SIR. >> IN THE STAFF REPORT IT SAID G ABOUT 2,000 PEOPLE AND 800 PARKG SPACES. YOU'RE SAYING, YOU HAD MENTIONE.

>> I WAS USING JUST AS AN EXAMPE FRANCIS FIELD. 30,000 THEY HAD PUT IN.

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I WAS JUST TRYING TO -- >> AND THEN YOU HAD MENTIONED C. IS CAMPING SOMETHING WE HAVE TO

CONSIDER? >> YES, THEY HAVE PRIMITIVE CAM. >> IS THAT PART OF THE APPLICAT-

>> PRIMITIVE CAMPING IS ALLOWEDE OR ZONING DISTRICT. >> THANK YOU.

I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. LET ME JUST ADDRESS THEM NOW. HAVE THERE BEEN ANY PRIOR COMPLN THE PROPERTY? FROM THE PAST. SO WE'VE SEEN THIS FOR A NUMBERS

COMING BACK. >> YES. HE HAS DONE THE TEMPORARY USES E PAST COUPLE YEARS FOR THIS, ANDF THEM WERE GRANTED. I PULLED UP FIVE COMPLAINTS.

THERE WERE NONE ON THE PROPERTYY OF THESE TEMPORARY USES. >> ANY COMMUNICATION WITH SHERIS

OFFICE TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANYR COMPLAINTS? >> I DIDN'T LOOK THAT UP.

>> THERE HASN'T. THERE HASN'T BEEN. >> ALL RIGHT.

IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE SITE PL FAST. IT'S HARDER TO READ BECAUSE THET

HAVE WHAT'S IN THE PACKET. SO THIS IS THE LIVESTOCK AREA. >> YES, SIR.

>> WHERE THE CONCERT IS GOING O. WHAT TYPE OF LIVESTOCK DO YOU H? >> HORSES.

>> THEY DON'T MIND THAT MUSIC? >> NO, SIR. WE ALSO SHOOT A LOT OUT THERE.

>> THIS IS THE PARKING AREA HER. YOU HAVE RESTROOMS IN THIS SMALR RECTANGLE.

>> YES. >> THIS IS AN ARTS AND CRAFTS SS AREA.

MORE RESTROOMS HERE AND HERE. THIS IS A FOOD COURT. THIS IS WHERE THE ALCOHOLIC ACTS

WILL BE TAKING PLACE. >> RIGHT. >> THERE AND IN FRONT OF THE STI

ASSUME, OR JUST HERE? >> NO, ON THAT ONE SIDE WHERE TN THING WAS.

THAT RIGHT THERE IS GOING TO BEE THE FOOD IS -- >> OKAY.

AND THEN THE STAGE IS HERE AND E PEOPLE STAYING OR SITTING OR WH. >> RIGHT.

>> THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE OTHERY MEMBERS?

LET'S GO THROUGH THE LIST. DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES, I HAVE A FEW.

NUMBER ONE, I THINK YOU HAVE A E PLAN. I DO LIKE THAT.

NUMBER TWO, IF THE TEMPORARY UST IS GRANTED, IT'S GOING TO BECOME EFFECTIVE BASICALLY IMMEDIATELYO YOU'LL HAVE APPROVAL TO START HG EVENTS. I WONDER, GIVEN COVID-19 PANDEMD EVEN WITH SPACE OUT THERE TO SOY DISTANCE, WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FN EVENT POSSIBLY THIS YEAR?

THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. >> IT BASICALLY TAKES ANYWHERE R TO SIX MONTHS TO PUT TOGETHER A.

NOW, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE BEY GRIFFIN HOUSE RIGHT NOW TO TRY A FUNDRAISER WITH THEM.

THEY'RE TRYING TO ADD 50 ROOMS E WOMEN, AND SO THAT WE'VE WEAN BN WORKING WITH THEM FOR THE LAST L MONTHSAS FAR AS TIME FRAME, I MO WAY I COULD THEORETICALLY HAVE G TOMORROW.

WHAT WAS THE OTHER PART OF YOUR QUESTION, SIR? >> ALL RIGHT.

MY SECOND QUESTION IS UNLESS, MU WERE SAYING SOMETHING. >> NO, NO, IF YOU'RE SATISFIED,M

SATISFIED. GO AHEAD. >> YOU MENTIONED THIS AFTER-HOUE EVENTS. I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT AFTER-HOURS MEANS.

AND I GUESS YOU'RE AWARE THAT IE ORDER AND THE FINDINGS THAT THEF HAS PREPARED AND THE STIPULATIOT THEY WOULD PLACE UPON YOU, RESTS THAT ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGD HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN ACTIVITIES B0 P.M., AND ON SUNDAY BY 10:00 P.. DOES THAT STILL FIT WITH YOUR AFTER-HOURS PLANS?

AND WHAT ARE THOSE EXACTLY? THANK YOU. >> THE AFTER-HOURS WAS SOMETHINT THE AMPHITHEATER WAS OFFERING, S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GOING TOE TO -- IF WE DO END UP DOING SOMG TOGETHER, IT'S SOMETHING THEY'RG TO HAVE TO DISCUSS. NOW, BEING AS THERE'S NO ONE ARS FAR AS PEOPLE, PLAYING A GUITARD THE CAMPFIRE IS NOT LIKE YOU'REG CAUCUS AND HAVING A BIC RAW CUSD HAVING A BIG HEYDEY. WHAT THEY DID IN TOWN WAS THEY O SEVERAL DIFFERENT BARS AND HAD E

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YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A VERYE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE GATHERING BECAT WOULD ONLY BE FOR THOSE CAMPING.

IT WOULDN'T BE FOR ANYBODY THATT THE AMPHITHEATER. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,.

>> YES, IT DOES. MIGHT EVEN JOIN SOMETHING LIKE T MYSELF IN FACT, MIGHT ATTEND A FUTURE T OUT THERE. BUT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT, AND THIST A PERSONAL REQUEST -- IT HAS NOG ON ANY LEGAL ASPECT OF THIS -- U HELD YOUR BACK SOODZ SAND JAM BN 2017 ON MAY 5TH THROUGH THE 7TH. THAT'S BASICALLY THE SAME TIME E GAMBLE ROGERS FOLK FESTIVAL.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD POSSIBLY AVOID HAVING AN EVENT G THE SAME TIME TO COMPETE WITH T.

AND YOU MIGHT GET BETTER THE ENR AT YOURS AND THEY MAY GET BETTER ATTENDANCE AT THEIRS.

SO I'M JUST THREAG THAT OUT THER YOUR CONSIDERATION. YOU DO NOT EVEN HAVE TO ADDRESS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> THAT WAS A PERFECT -- WE DROE BALL.

WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OE WERE SOME CONCERTS THAT THE AMPR WAS HAVING AND THEN THERE WAS AR BIG ONE DOWN BY LAKE CITY, AND E IT OR NOT SOME OF THE SAME BANDE ARE TRYING NOT TO MESS THEM UP,D NOBODY CAUGHT -- GAMBLE ROGER. AND I KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT WERET VERY WELL, AND YOU FELT REALLY A

JERK TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YO. IT WAS NOT DONE MALICELY AT ALL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> MR. WAINRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS?

>> YES, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, S. >> YES, SIR. >> I WAS LOOKING BUT I COULD NOW

LONG THIS IS FOR. IS THIS FOR A YEAR, THIS PERMIT? >> THIS WOULD BE A --

>> IF EVER ANYTHING COMES ACROSS NOT -- THEN IT WOULD COME BACK E TABLE.

IT'S NOT A TEMPORARY USE. IT'S A SPECIAL USE. >> THANK YOU.

SECOND QUESTION. PARKING. THE DRAINAGE DITCHES ON THE SIDT ROAD ARE DEEP AND CLOSE. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE SURE E USE YOUR PARKING RATHER THAN TRO

PARK ALONG THE ROAD? >> THE -- WE HAD PUT SIGNS. THE ONES IN FRONT OF ME IS WHERT THE SIGNS AT. BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE DIRECTING THO THE PARKING AREA.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH Y GOING ON THE ROAD. IN FACT, THEY WERE MORE HAPPY TN

THE INSIDE THAN OUTSIDE, TO BE E HONEST WITH YOU. >> THIRD QUESTION.

I WASN'T SURE I UNDERSTOOD CLEA. PERHAPS I WASN'T ON INTAKE. THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE UP UL

11:00 ON SATURDAY AND 10:00 ON ? IS THAT CORRECT? >> FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.

>> AND -- >> BUT WHAT WE WERE DOING IS BET TIME FRAME EVERYTHING WOULD BE AMPLIFIED, AND WHAT WE DID WAS E SHUT THE AMPLIFICATION DOWN, ITT ACOUSTICAL AND WE WERE ABLE TO - LIKE I SAY, WE HAVE SEVERAL CAM, AND WE SAT AROUND AND WE PLAYEDC AND EVERYBODY KIND OF SANG, ANDS LIKE A -- IT WAS IEFNED NEAT. IT'S LIKE BRINGING BACK MEMORIEF BEING A KID AGAIN, BUT WE ALL JN

AND ADDED WORDS TO THE SONGS ANS FUN. >> SOUNDS LIKE FUN TO ME, TOO, D LIKE CLARITY. THE ACOUSTICS WILL GO OFF AT CLG TIME?

>> THE AMPLIFICATION. >> AMPLIFICATION. >> ACOUSTIC HAS NO A.M. P AMP.

>> I AM I'M SORRY. AMPLIFICATION WILL GO OFF AS THE CLOSING TIMES.

>> RIGHT, THERE'S NO AMPLIFICAT. >> MS. PERKINS? >> NO QUESTIONS, THANK YOU.

>> MR. ALAIMO? >> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS . >> THANK YOU.

MR. MATOVINA. >> YEAH. I HAVE JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS .

I ASSUME WE AREN'T CONCERNED ABE IMPACT OF TRAFFIC ON COW PEN ROI KNOW THE RECORD SAYS THIS BUT IT WANT TO CONFIRM THAT COWSPEND AR COLLECTOR WHICH IS REQUIRED FORL USE.

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>> IS THAT FOR ME BECAUSE -- >> NO, THAT'S FOR STAFF. >> IT'S FOR ME.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND. LET ME SEE WHAT MY STAFF REPORT. >> MR. CHAIR, MR. MR. D'SOUZA OE

LINE, HE'S ON THE PHONE, IF HE D CHIME IN ON THAT TRAFFIC QUHE. >> CHIEF ENGINEER.

COWPEN BRANCH IS A MINOR COLLECD I'M SORRY IF I COULD GET THE QUN REPEATED FOR THE TRAFFIC, MAKE I

FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT ONE. >> I JUST WANT TO BE SURE WE DOE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT LOADING THATT OF TRAFFIC ON A RURAL ROAD, YOU, FOR AN UNLIMITED NUMBER OF EVEN. BEFORE WE HAD A LIMITED NUMBER F

EVENTS. NOW WE HAVE AN UNLIMITED NUMBER. >> NO, SIR, WE'RE STILL --

>> SORRY, SIR. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO HOLE ONA SECOND.

GO AHEAD, DICK. >> SO THE MINOR COLLECTOR ALLOWO 2,000 AND 11,000 DALE TRIPS BEFE ANYTHING WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN TE ROAD IN TERMS OF CHANGING ITS FL CLASSIFICATION AND THEN NECESSAY UPGRADES. WITH THE QUOTED 2,000 AN THE ENDEES PER FESTIVAL, AND KNOWINE TRAFFIC THAT WE HAVE ON THAT ROT IS NOW, WE WOULD NOT EXCEED ANYE THRESHOLDS TO PUSH US TO THE MAR COLLECTOR, SO WE WOULD SEE NO DETRIMENTAL WITH THE TRAFFIC ONT ROADWAY.

>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. >> GLEG, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ?

>> NO, SIR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DR. MCCORMICK, ANY QUESTIONS?

>> NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIO. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

>> MR. CHAIR, IF YOU DON'T MINDO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS IF I MAY GH THE CHAIR PERTAINING TO IT.

>> GO AHEAD. >> AND THIS MAY JUST TAKE SOME CLARIFICATION.

I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF I UNDER. SO ONE OF THE SUGGESTED CONDITIS THAT THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT SHAE

LIMITED HAD TO A MAXIMUM OF EIGS PER YEAR. >> CORRECT.

>> AND NO MORE THAN ONE EVENT P. >> CORRECT. >> BUT IS THERE ANY LIMITATION T

AN EVENT IS? ONE DAY, THREE DAYS, SEVEN DAYS. >> WE CAN GO UP TO -- WHEN I HAY TWO-YEAR PERMIT THE LAST TIME, S GIVEN FOUR DAYS BECAUSE NEW YEAE WERE HAVING A FOUR-DAY FESTIVALT WAS MOW NO MORE THAN FOUR DAYS. PROMISED ONE OF THE COMMISSIONET BE A WOODSTOCK.

I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE IT W. BUT NO MORE THAN -- >> .

>> RIGHT. SO, MR. CHAIR AND AGENCY MEMBERT IS SOMETHING THAT THE AGENCY COI THINK A NUMBER ON, WHETHER IT'SE DAYS, FOUR DAYS. IN OTHER WORDS, I JUST FEEL A LE UNCOMFORTABLE THAT THAT'S UNDEF. I MEAN, IN SOMEBODY'S HANDS AN T COULD BE 30 DAYS.

>> ANYTHING ELSE, PATRICK? >> YES. ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS A NOISE ONE OTHER HAND, WHICH HAS SOME LG OTHER THINGS AMPLIFIED MUSIC ANT TYPE OF THING AND THEY'RE SLIGHY DIFFERENT THAN YOUR EVENT HOURSO I PROBABLY WOULD RECOMMEND A CLARIFICATION OR JUST REALLY KIA NOTICE THAT THIS SPECIAL USE PET WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE ST. JOHY NOISE ON THE OTHER HAND, WHICH E IT WOULD BE ANYWAY BUT I THINK D BE HELPFUL AS A POINTER TO HAVEN THERE BECAUSE, AGAIN, I THINK FE OF THE EVENINGS THERE MAY BE A , YOU KNOW, NOT AMPLIFIED AFTER TT VERSUS I THINK 11:00 FOR THE EV.

>> RIGHT, FOR FRIDAYS AND SATUR. >> RIGHT. AND SO THERE COULD BE ACTIVITIER THAT, JUST ON THOSE DAYS NOT THE AMPLIFIED MUSIC. SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THATR THE USER'S SAKE MIGHT BE HELPFUT IN THERE. FOR THEY COVID FOR THE COE REGULATIONS ON THAT, ET CETERA. I DON'T KNOW THAT THE AGENCY NEO ADD ANYTHING IN THERE.

THERE COULD BE A PROVISION. WE'LL FOLLOW CDC GUIDELINES FORL DISTANCING WHEN A NATIONAL PANDR

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INCLUDING THE NOISE ORDINANCE WE APPLICABLE. >> PATRICK, IF YOU WANT TO NOODE SOMETHING UP THERE AND WE CAN MK ABOUT IT WHEN WE GET TO THAT PO. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? >> NO. >> OKAY.

>> MR. CHAIR. >> YES. >> MR. CHAIR, THIS IS ALICE MOR.

IN MAY I ADDRESS? >> YOU MAY. >> YES.

I WANT US TO CHECK WITH YOU ANDF COURSE, MR. NICHOLS IN . IN THE CONDITIONS IT DOES TALK A NUMBER 11. EACH EVENT DURATION SHD SHALL BD TO FRIDAY 11:00 A.M. TO LENGTH , SATURDAY 11:00 A.M. TO 11:00 P.D SUNDAY 11:00 A.M. TO 10:00 P.M. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR YOUR DEFINITION E LEAJTH LENGTH OF AN EVENT. THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

AND THEN NUMBER TWO IS I DO NOTN THE CONDITIONS WHERE THE ACOUSTS AT 11:00 OR 10:00 -- I MEAN, THE AMPLIFICATION ENDS AT 11:00 OR D THE ACOUSTIC CAN CONTINUE. IT LOOKS LIKE THE EVENT NEEDS TT THOSE TIMES. SO A CHANGE NEEDS TO BE MADE, IO POINT THAT OUT, BUT AT THE MOMET

LOOKS LIKE THE ACTUAL EVENT ENDS COMPLETELY AT THOSE TIMES. >> RESPOND?

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU, ALICE. >> AS FAR AS THE ACOUSTICAL, BEE WERE HAVING THE CAMPING AND NO S LEAVING AND WE WERE ALL THERE, T MADE -- IT JUST WENT WITH IT.

I MEAN, IT WASN'T LIKE WE WERE O MAKE IT LAST LONGER THAN IT WASD TO, BUT IT WAS MORE FOR ENJOYMEE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE CAMPING D DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO BED. THEY WEREN'T GETTING BACK TO THS AND WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP EVERY SOMEWHAT ENTERTAINED. WE ALSO DID WIRELESS DISCO WAS F THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DID WHY PUT THE HEADPHONES ON AND IT'S N AND YOU WALK AROUND AND YOU LISO DISCO MUSIC. IT'S VERY ODD. I'VE NEVER DONE IT.

IT WAS THE FIRST TIME. IT WAS DIFFERENT. BUT IT JUST TO ENTERTAIN THOSE E CAMPING AND TO HAVE AD GOO TIME. WE WEREN'T TRYING TO ELONGATE TL MUSIC PART OF THE FESTIVAL, BUT WHILE PEOPLE WERE LEAVING WE GOO CAMPFIRES GOING AND WE JUST STAD PLAYING MUSIC.

>> SO THE CAMPFIRES ARE ON THE G AREA? >> YEAH.

>> I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE THAT S UNREASONABLE TO HAVE IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIME FRAM.

>> IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S LOUD. IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S BLARING MUSI. >> I'M NOT DISAGREEING.

I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S A PUSH E ATTORNEYS TO DEFINE THIS BECAUSS WHAT THEY DO, AND I'M OF THE OPN THAT NOTHING THAT HAPPENS AFTERT NIGHT, BUT IF YOU GUYS WANTED TP WITH A TIME, SAY MIDNIGHT, FOR , I'M JUST PROPOSING THAT, WHERE , EVENTUALLY THE MUSIC CEASES AT E POINT.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YO. ALICE, GO AHEAD. >> IF YOU WON'T DON'T MIND.

YES. THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING FROM MR. NICHOLS WAS TO DIFFERENTIAT.

I WON'T SAY THAT THE EVENT'S OVT SEEMS TO BE MAKING A SHIFT TO TE CAMPING SITUATION.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED SOME CLARIN ON. SO IN ESSENCE THE EVENT IS OVERE TIME STATED IT. REALLY SHIFTS TO THOSE THAT AREG THERE.

AGAIN, IF THIS IS SUFFICIENT FOE AGENCY, IF ANY WORDING NEEDS TOE ADDED, OF COURSE, THAT CAN BE DS WELL, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THEE ALMOST TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, ONG TO THE OTHER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THE NOISE AND I DON'T KNOW IE TOP OF MY SAID WHATSOEVER, BUT M ASSUMING THAT IF THERE'S LOUDER ACOUSTICAL MUSIC BEING PLAYED AD SOMEONE BESIDES A HORSE OBJECTS, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD BE ASKED TE QUIET. DO WE NEED TO DEFINE THIS THING? IF THE EVENT EVERS A 11:00 AND E WANT TO -- EVENT'S OVER AT 11:0D PEOPLE WANT TO SMOKE A CIGARETTY A PLAY A GUITAR IN FRONT OF A FIRI DON'T THINK THAT FALLS AUND AN .

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IT'S JUST PEOPLE. >> MR. CHAIR, I DON'T THINK THET NEADZ NEEDS TO BE OVER, BUT JUSG FROM THE NOISE ORDINANCE WHERE S ABOUT RADIOS, TELEVISION, RECORH PLAYBACK DEVICES, SOUND REPRODUN EQUIPMENT, ET CETERA, ANY OTHERR DEVICES REPRODUCING SOUND IN SUA MANNER AS -- BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

OPERATION OF ANY AFOREMENTIONEDS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 10:00 P.M.L 7:00 A.M. ON SUNDAY THROUGH THU, I GUESS MAYBE THAT DOES FIT BECF THE EVENTS ARE JUST THE FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, THAT SHOULD B.

AT 11:00 P.M. BASICALLY ON FRIDD SATURDAY. SO I THINK ALICE HAS MADE A GOO.

IF THE IF YOU WILL EVENT DARES T LIMITED TO FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND, THEY CANNOT BE ANY OTHER DAYS OE WEEK. IF THAT'S THE READING OF THAT, T THE CAN BE READ THAT DAY, THEN K IT WOULD FALL IN LINE WITH THE E ORDINANCE. MR. NICHOLS, IS THAT JURY YOUR UNDERSTANDING, THAT THE EVENT DN SHALL BE LIMITED TO FRIDAY 11:0O 11:00 P.M., SATURDAY 11:00 A.M.0

P.M. >> RIGHT. >> AND SUNDAY UNTIL 10:00 P.M.?

>> THAT'S WHAT WE DID THE LAST . BECAUSE OF THE WE HAD AN EVENT Y WERE WANTING TO COME AND I NEEDD THURSDAY SO IT WAS GOING TO BE A THURSDAY NIGHT. I'M JUST SAYING THREE DAYS IS F.

I MEAN, IF I NEEDED AN EXTRA DAI CAME BEFORE YOU IN AMPLE TIME FE TO BE AN OPEN DISCUSSION, IF ITS NECESSARY, BUT WHEN WE SHUT DOWT THE PEOPLE OUT OF THE VENUE ARED INTO THE CAMPING AREA BECAUSE WO

GET IT CLOSED OFF FOR SECURITY . >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THEN JUST TRYING TO ACCELERATE S IT OF THE OPINION, THEN, PATRICE YOU CHIMED IN, THAT WE DON'T NER ONE CONDITION ABOUT A FOUR-DAY . IT IS DEFINED BY ITEM NUMBER 11E SPECIAL USE?

>> RIGHT. IF NUMBER 11 IS READ, AND I THIN BE, SO THAT THOSE ARE THE -- THE NOT JUST THE LIMITATIONS OF HOUN THOSE DAYS BUT THOSE ARE THE LIS ANYWAY.

>> AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO PENCE SENTENCE FOR THE PROPERTY WILL O CONFORM TO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTYN THE OTHER HAND. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> NO, SIR. I THINK I'VE PRETTY MUCH COVERE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE IT DOWN P.O THE AGENCY FOR COMMENTS, THOUGHA MOTION.

>> I'D OFFER A COMMENT. >> PLEASE DO, ARCHIE >> DO I NEED TO STAY?

>> YOU CAN SIT DOWN IF YOU'D LI. >> UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE WOULD OFA MOTION.

>> WHAT'S YOUR COMMENT, ARCHIE . >> I THINK I'M CLEAR NOW ON HOWE EVENTS CAN LAST AND THE HOURS.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I AM CONCERN ABOUT THE TIME, THF A TIME LIMIT.

NO TELLING WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN A IN THE FUTURE, BUT I CAN LIVE W. THIS IS ENTREPRENEURIAL, AND I'N SUPPORT OF IT. I THINK WE HAVE COVERED THE NOI. WE HAVE COVERED CLEARLY THAT THE PERFORMANCE ENDS AT THAT TIME AD THERE'S A LITTLE GUITAR MUSIC AFTERWARDS, NO PROBLEM.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE AGEY MEMBERS?

>> MR. CHAIR, I'M SORRY TO INTE. MIKE ROBERTSON. I DON'T KNOW DID WE ASK FOR PUBC

COMMENT? >> WE DID. >> I'M SO SORRY.

>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. AGAIN, AGENCY MEMBERS, IF THEREO COMMENTS, I WOULD TAKE A MOTION.

>> I'D OFFER A MOTION. >> PLEASE DO. >> MOTION TO APPROVE SUB IMAGIN5 LONE PALM VENTURES BASED POT EIT FINDING OF FACT AND 13 CONDITIOS PRESERVED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> AND MR. CHAIR, WOULD THE MAKE MOTION CONSIDER A 14TH CONDITIOE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WILL OPERATEN

COMPLIANCE WITH THE ST. JOHNS CY NOISE ORDINANCE. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION, AN AMENDED MO. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU, MS. PERKINS.

WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE'LL DO A ROLL CA.

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DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES. >> MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MS. PERKINS.

>> YES. >> MR. >> YES.

>> MR. MATOVINA. >> YES. >> AND DR. MCCORMICK.

>> YES. >> MOTION CARRIES 7-0. CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU, SIR, VERY MUCH. >> YOU'RE VERY WOMEN. YOU'RE WELCOME.

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NO STRANGER TO THIS ROOM. ST. MARKS POND YET AGAIN. HOW ARE YOU TODAY?

>> AND TODAY WITH ME IS CAMERONH AND TYLER SMITH. THEIR DAD GLENN SMITH IS THE AP, BUT THEY BLOATH WORK WITH THEIRN THE BUSINESS, AND GLENN COULDN'E TODAY.

BUT WE HAVE SOME GOOD FAMILY REPRESENTATION THAT UNDERSTANDSR BUSINESS AND THE INDUSTRIAL PARU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THERE WE GO. I'LL JUST KIND OF MOVE FORWARD.

AS MR. KOPPENHAFER MENTIONED, TS ACTUALLY 22.74 ACRES OF THE 25 S THAT WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE PRD TN INDUSTRIAL PARK. SOMEBODY ELSE OWNS A PORTION OFS NOW, BUT GLENN SMITH STILL OWNSE 22.74 ACRES. THE REQUEST, WE HAVE TWO BUILDI. HE'S BUILT HIS INDUSTRIAL PARK S BUILDING IT, TWO BUILDINGS. IT HAS A LARGE STORAGE YARD ALOH DRIVES AND PARKING AND STORM WAD HE'S MADE ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS E HORIZON P ONLY THE CONSTRUCTIONE PARK, FINISHED THE FIRST BUILDID THE SECOND BUILDING IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. NOW, I NOTE IN THE WAY THAT IT S IN THE AGENDA, YOU HAVE THE ZONG VARIANCE FIRST AND THE SPECIAL . PATRICK MENTIONED TO ME, AND I D LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THE SPECIAE FIRST AND THE VARIANCE SECOND BE THE SPECIAL -- THE VARIANCE IS R SOMETHING THAT IS RELATED TO THL USE. SO IF THE SPECIAL USE HASN'T Y PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE THEL USE FIRST AND THE ZONING VARIANE SECOND.

SO THE REQUEST IS TO PROVIDE FOR COMMERCIAL RECREATION USES. THAT'S THINGS LIKE DANCE STUDIOD THOSE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES, PERSL TRAINERS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGSN UP TO FIVE UNITIES OF TENANT SPR BUILDING IN HIS INDUSTRIAL PARK. AND THE PROJECT, AS I SAID, HASO BUILDING.

THE BUILDS ARE 20,790 SQUARE FE. AND THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FORO FIVE IN EACH BUILDING OR 9450 PR BUILDING IN ORDER TO HAVE COMMEL RECREATION ACTIVITIES. HE DID DESIGN THIS.

THERE IS A LOT OF EXTRA PARKING. THERE'S 98 SPACES PER BUILDING A VERY CENTRAL PARKING AREA.

THE ZONING VARIANCE IS RELATED E SPECIAL USE REQUIREMENT THAT RES THAT OPERATION OF PRIMARY REC II RATIONALES USES BE LIMITED TO OT THE EXISTING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, T IS DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO ACHIEVE, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE T REQUIREMENT TO ALLOW FOR CONCURT BUSINESS HOURS.

THE GIVE AUNED YEAS REMINDER WHS WE HAVE ST. MARKS POND BOULEVARP AND BASICALLY THE LARGE RETENTIW PIT AREA AND WHERE WE'RE TALKINT IS THIS PORTION. YOU CAN SEE IT A LOT BETTER.

THIS IS AN OLDER AERIAL, THOUGHO THINGS WERE UNDER CONSTRUCTION E TIME BUT NOT AS COMPLETE AS THEE NOW. AND THAT KIND OF SHOWS YOU THATE ACTIVITIES.

IT IS WITHIN AN INDUSTRIAL LANDE AREA, FUTURE LAND USE AREA, ANDE ZONING IS IW.

AND IF YOU ALL REMEMBER FROM THP PLAN AMENDMENT, THE COMP PLAN AT ALLOWED FOR BUSINESS AND COMMERK AS WELL AS INDUSTRIAL USES, BUTS CYNTHIA AND I TRIED GOING THROUH BUSINESS AND COMMERCE, IT'S NOTY

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JUST AN IDEA OF OVERALL OF THE E PLAN, IT KIND OF GIVES US AN OV. THE AREA COMING IN IS ST. MARKSD BOULEVARD. THIS IS THE ENTRANCE IF THERE'SE ROAD THAT GOES ON PAST HERE THAT ACTUALLY GOES TO OTHER PROPERTYS PART OF THE OTHER PRD THAT WAS T CHANGED.

THERE'S OUTDOOR ACTIVITY HERE FR PARKING. IT HAS ITS OWN ACCESS.

THE CENTRAL PARKING AREA AND THO BUILDINGS. AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE BUFFERD SETBACKS FOR THE WETLAND SITUAT. JUST THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE HELP. THESE ARE ELEVATONS OF THE BUILS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. IT'S PRETTY TYPICAL OF WHAT YOU. AND AS I SAID, THESE ARE 1890 SE FEET EACH, AND SO IT'S A LARGE Y AREA WITH AN ENTRANCE DOOR. THE UNITS THEMSELVES, YOU CAN SE DIMENSIONS. YOU CAN SEE THE LAYOUT GENERALLF THAT.

THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDI. AND THEN THE BACK, WHICH WOULD E RESTROOMS AND ALSO HAVE THE ACCS OUTSIDE. SO THE SPECIAL USE REQUEST IS TE FOR THAT COMMERCIAL RECREATION.

THE TOTAL OF THE 41580 SQUARE F. WE'RE ASKING FOR THE OVERALL, SS RIGHT NOW THE TWO BUILDINGS.

EACH BUILDING HAS 11 UNITS. 98 PARKING SPACES, WHICH WOULD R BUILDING.

AND TO ADDRESS ADEQUATE PARKINGD USE CALCULATIONS BASED ON INDUS, WHICH IN YOUR CODE IS ONE SPACER 3,000 SQUARE FEET. IT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR INDUSTL USES.

OFFICE, ONE SPACE PER 300. COMMERCIAL RECREATION, ONE SPACR 300.

AND THEN GENERAL SERVICE AND BUS TYPE USES AS WELL JUST IN CASE S ONES THAT DON'T FITSOME SOME OFE OTHER CATEGORIES. SO WE CALCULATED THE 1890 SQUART FOR EACH, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT Y IT'S ONE SPACE FOR A WAREHOUSE , SEVEN SPACES IF YOU WERE TO DO E OR A COMMERCIAL RECREAION USE, R SPACES IF YOU WERE DOING GENERAL BUSINESS. AND ONE OF THE KEYS, PARKING ISF THE KEYS BOTH IN ALLOWING THE UD ESTABLISHING THE OPERATIONAL TI. MANY OF THE PARKS THAT YOU WILLE INDUSTRIAL PARKS USE THE BARE MM WHEN THEY COME UP WITH THEIR PAG CALCULATIONS.

IN THIS CASE, IF YOU WERE TO UST THE INDUSTRIAL, YOU'D HAVE 14 PG SPACES FOR ALL OF THESE, FOR THS BUILDING. SO SOMETHING LIKE PROVIDING FOR COMMERCIAL RECREATION WOULD BE Y APPROPRIATE AND WOULDN'T CREATE CONFLICT. AGAIN WE GET A LITTLE CLOSER TOE AND I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAE USES ARE SEPARATED. SMITH TRUCKING IS THE MAJOR BUSS ACTIVITY RIGHT IN HERE. THEY HAVE THEIR OUTDOOR ACTIVITS AREA.

IT DOES NOT ENTER OR GO IN THISA WHAT SOAFORT A PALM THIS IS MORF A RELATIONERY TYPE THING AND SHE THAT THE PARKING IS CENTRAL TO E LOCATION, AND YOU CAN LOOP THROH WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK IN U EXAMPLES. THIS WAS IN MY REPORT AND STAFF, TOO, JUST TO SHOW YOU THEIR INIL TENANTS. THAT'S CHANGED SLIGHTLY SINCE IE THIS APPLICATION, BUT BASICALLYS SMITH TRUCKING ITSELF. THEY HAD A MEAL PREP AND PACKAGG OPERATION, A CONSTRUCTION PRODUS DISTRIBUTION. THEY HAD ONE WAREHOUSE TYPE THI. BASKETBALL TRAINING, A DANCE STA JIU-JITSU STUDIO. SO WHEN WE CALCULATED ALL THOSEE UP WITH THE 46 SPACES IN THAT OE BUILDING SO THAT WAS UNDER THE . AND CYNTHIA AND I ALSO WENT THRW DO YOU -- WHAT KIND OF SCENARIO.

IS THERE A TABLE YOU COULD DO FE PARKING, BUT BASICALLY I JUST KF TOOK IF YOU USED FIVE FULL SPACR COMMERCIAL RECREATION, WHAT YOUO WITH THE BALANCE OF THAT. SO TO GET INTO THE SPECIAL USE S DEFINE AS A USE THAT WOULD NOT E APPROPRIATE GENERALLY OR WITHOUT RESTRICTION FOR A ZONING DISTRID IT'S PERMITTED BY SPECIAL CEPTIA SPECIAL USE. AND AGAIN THAT PROVIDES CERTAIN

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THE SPECIAL USE CANNOT BE GRANTD WITHOUT SUBSTANTIAL DETRIMENT TE PUBLIC GOOD, WILL TO THE NOT SUBSTANTIALLY IMPAIR THE PURPOSE COMP PLAN OR CODE. AGAIN, THESING ACTIVITIES WOULDE CONDUCTED IN THE WAREHOUSE BUIL. THE SITE HAS CONTROLLED ACCESS L PROPER PERMITS.

AND IT ALSO HAS EVEN FURTHER ACO IGP AND US-1 1I95 P IT HAS MET E ZONING AND BUFFER REQUIREMENTS.

AND THE AREA ITSELF HAS A LOT OD INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES. SO IT KIND OF HELPS THOSE KINDSF BUSINESS ACTIVITIES. SOMETHING LIKE A GYM OR A DANCEO HAS A HARD TIME MAKING IT FINANY WITH THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL RENL RATES, AND SO THESE ARE OFTEN TN BECAUSE IT ALLOWS THEM TO HAVE E LESS EXPENSE. THE USE IS COMPATIBLE AND CONTIO SURROUNDING AREA.

IT WILL. IT IS COMPATIBLE AND WILL PROVIE NECESSARY SERVICES.

IT IS KIND OF INDICATED BY HOW Y THEY GOT A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAD TO PUT THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSE.

THE AREA AS LARGELY UNDEVELOPEDS YOU GO OVER TOWARDS VALENCIA ANT AREA IT'S DEFINITELY WHERE THEYG TO DRAW FROM FOR A LOT OF THE ACTIVITIES. AS POINTED OUT, THE INDUSTRIAL K ÚITSELF HAS CENTRAL DRIVE AISLEH PARKING IN THE CENTER SO THERE'Y GOOD TRAFFIC FLOW, AND THE SIZED SCALE OF THE BUILDINGS WHEN YOUE TALKING ABOUT 1890 SQUARE FEET N ACTIVITY REALLY KEEPS THE ACTIVS LOW. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO HA MAJOR MANUFACTURER THERE.

THE ACCESS PROVIDED BY A STREETN DINED BY DTO. THIS IS NOT MAIN DAINED BY DOT.

BUT THERE STILL WOULD BE VERY ML TRAFFIC GENERATED AND THEY COMET VARIOUS HOURS AS WELL.

ACCESS FROM AN EXISTING PERMITTD DRIVEWAY. 4 IS THAT THE USE IS LISTED AS L USE, WHICH IT IS. AND KIND OF GIVES YOU WHAT TYPEF THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

GYMNASIUMS, FITNESS CENTERS, PAL FACILITIES, AEROBIC STUDIOS, THS OF ACTIVITIES.

AND IT DOES REQUIRE THE SECTIONC SECTION REQUIRES THAT WE PROVIDE PLAN, WHICH WE HAVE, WHICH YOU A COPY OF AND WE'VE KIND OF GONE . SECTION 20343B PROVIDES THAT RESTRICTIONS FOR LOCATION FOR SN AND INCOMPATIBLE USES, AND AGAIS FOR INDIVIDUAL TENANT SPACES ANL HAVE PARKING IMMEDIATELY IN FROF THEM SO THERE'S -- AGAIN, THEY E FIRE PROTECTION THEN THEM AS WE. SECTION 2 .03 OF.FLE C PROVIDESR HOURS OPERATION AND THAT'S WHATL GET INTO WITH THE VARIANCE. THEY WANT TO ENSURE COMPATIBILIY BETWEEN THE TWO TYPES OF USES, O THAT'S WHERE THIS COMES BY WITHE CODE.

USES WOULD BE LIMITED TO -- IF Y THIS PARTICULAR PORTION OF THE L USE REQUIREMENTS.

AND WE'RE ASKING FOSTER VAIR YOR THE VARIANCE TO REMOVE THAT RUM. FOR A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL RECN THEY WOULDN'T EVEN NECESSARILY . THEY MIGHT BE SCATTERED TIMES. THEY MIGHT COUNTY COINCIDE OR NT COINCIDE WITH THE OTHER. THERE MIGHT BE MORE ON WEEKEND N THERE'S NOT.

SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL MIGHT BE PACKAGING LATE INTO THE NIGHT FE REASONS.

BASICALLY MOST OF THOSE BUSINESS OPERATE FROM LIKE 6:00 A.M. TO . IN THE AFTERNOON.

BUT IT'S VERY HARD TO KIND OF DE HOW TO SEPARATE THAT, WHICH IS E ASKING FOR THE VARIANCE.

JUST SOME PICTURES OF IT. THAT'S THE ENTRANCE COMING IN OF ST. MARKS POND BOULEVARD.

THAT IS THE EXISTING BUILDING. THAT IS THE NEW BUILDING, THE SC BUILDING UNDER CONSTRUCTION ANDO LOOKING AT THE RETENTION AREA IE BACK, AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE G IN THE CENTER.

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IT SHOWS YOU THEY'RE THE ONE THS TAKEN TWO LOCATION. THEY HAVE OFFICE SPACE IN ONE AN THEY HAVE THEIR OTHER SUPPLIES D THINGS IN THE OTHER. AND AGAIN KIND OF GOING OUT.

AND WITH THAT I'LL JUMP OVER TOE VARIANCE APPLICATION. AND I'M NOT GOING TO TEDIOUSLY D THIS, BUT BASICALLY THE VARIANCA RELAXATION OF THE CODE WHEREBY F EXCEPTIONAL NARROWNESS, SHALLOW, UNUSUAL SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY OY REASON OF ITS TOPOGRAPHIC CONDIR OTHER EXTRAORDINARY SITUATION OR CONDITION ON THE PIECE OF PROPEY REAFNT USE OR DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY ADJOINING IT.

THE LITERAL ENFORCEMENT WOULD CE UNDUE HARDSHIP TO CARRY OUT THET AND PURPOSE OF THE CODE.

BASED ON THIS, WE ARE AGAIN LOOT THIS AS BEING AN EXRARD SITUATIH I'LL -- EXTRAORDINARY SITUATIONH I'LL GET INTO IN A MINUTE. IT IS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORTE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TE APPLICANT MUST DEMONSTRATE THATE EXISTS SPECIAL CONDITIONS OR A E CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THE LITTER APPLICATION OF THE -- LITERAL APPLICATION OF THE CODE CONSTITA HARDSHIP, AND I KNOW WE ALWAYS O THE DISCUSSION OF WHAT A HARDSH, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DEMOE THAT THE DIVERGENT HOURS DOES CA HARDSHIP. AGAIN, THE EXTRAORDINARY SITUATS THE OPERATIONAL HOUR LIMITATIOND OF JUST WENT THROUGH THAT THEY Y NEED KIND OF THE FLEXIBILITY. AGAIN, A PERSONAL TRAINER MIGHTA 5:00 A.M. CLASS. THEY MIGHT HAVE A NOON CLASS, AY MIGHT HAVE AN 8:00 P.M. CLASS.

THEY ALSO MIGHT HAVE CERTAIN ACS DURING THE MIL OF THE MIDDL. EVEN THE INDUSTRIAL USES MIGHT E SOMETHING AS EARLY AS 5:00 A.M.R DELIVERIES FOR FOR GOING TO A JY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO IT'SY HARD TO ESTABLISH THE TIMES. SO THE HARDSHIP WOULD BE THE LIN FOR OPPOSING OPERATIONAL TIMES,T REALLY WOULD DIMINISH THE ABILIE OWNER TO LEASE TO CERTAIN COMMEL USES AND LIMIT THE OPERATIONAL R THEM, BUT THAT WOULD LETTERS LIT OPERATIONAL TIMES FOR THE INDUSL USES AS WELL BY DOING SO.

AND WE DON'T FEEL THAT THIS IS E INTENT OF THE CODE, AND WE KINDF EXPLAINED THAT THE REASON THAT T FEEL THAT IT'S THE INTENT OF THS THAT THIS IS A SMALL TYPE ACTIVA AND STILL PARK WITH PLENTY OF PG AND PLENTY OF ACTIVITY AREAS SOT WOULDN'T BE A NUISANCE TO EACH . SO THE SPECIAL USE WOULD BE LIMO THE COMMERCIAL RECREATION UP TOE UNITS PER BUILDING, AND AGAIN TT DESIGN KIND OF PROVIDES SO THERA CONFLICT BETWEEN LARGE TRUCK TRD REGULAR CAR TRAFFIC. DUE TO THE SIZE AND SCALE OF THE BUILDINGS, YOU'RE NOT TALKING AT LARGE MANUFACTURING TYPE THINGS. I'VE GONE THROUGH KIND OF WHAT S WOULD BE. AND ALSO THE THINGS THAT THEY'RO SCATTERED WHEN YOU'RE TALKING AT SOMETHING LIKE A DANCE STUDIO OR PERSONAL TRAINER, THAT IT'S VERO TIE THOSE DOWN.

AND BE I'LL GO THROUGH THE REQUD FINDINGS UNDER ZONING VARIANCES. BASICALLY YOU HAVE TO SAY ARE TE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES IN CARRYT THE STRICT LETTER OF THE REGULA? YES, WE DO FEEL THAT THERE WOUL, THAT THE OPERATIONAL TIMES WOULR THE OPERATIONS OF THE COMMERCIAL AS THE INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES.

THE VARIANCE IS NOT BASED ON A O REDUCE THE COST OF DEVELOPING T. IT'S FULLY DEVELOPED.

THERE'S NOT A COST REDUCTION ASD WITH ALLOWANCE FOR THE COMMERCIL RECREATION IEWTSZ.

IT WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INCREE CONGESTION ON SURROUNDING PUBLIC STREETS.

THE DANGER OF FIRE OTHER HAZARDE PUBLIC. THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN MANAGED IN E DEVELOPMENT AND GOING THROUGH TE PROCESS WITH THE COUNTY ON PERMITTING AND BUILDING IT.

THE PRPBLED VARIANCE WILL NOT DH PROPERTY VALUES NOR THE ESSENTIL CHARACTERISTIC OF AREA SURROUNDE SITE. IT IS LOCATED DIRECTLY OFF ST. S POND BOULEVARD.

THERE'S OTHER INDUSTRIAL AREAS,D THERE'S ACTUALLY OTHER USES SIMD TO THEIRS IN THE AREA.

AND THE PROPOSED VARIANCE IS INY WITH THE GENERAL INTENT OF THE D THE SPECIFIC INTENT RELATIVE TOE

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WE DO THINK THIS QUALIFIES AS AN EXTRAORDINARY SITUATION. AND AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE -- THE REALLY LOOKS AT THIS AS A LARGE INDUSTRIAL PARK, THIS MIGHT BE E IMPORTANT ASPECT TO MAKE SURE TU HAD OPERATIONAL TIMES THAT WERE DIFFERENT. IF, AS I NOTED, SOMEBODY DIDN'TT OF PARKING, THAT ALSO COULD BE PROBLEM. SO AGAIN IN YOUR STAFF REPORT TS EXIST A SPECIAL CONDITION OR UNE SUCKER, WE BELIEVE IN THIS. Y -- OR CIRCUMSTANCE.

WE DISAGREE THERE IS NO HARDSHI. WE BELIEVE THAT THE LITERAL APPN OF THE CODE CREATES THE HARDSHID THAT THE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT IF NEGATES THE NEED FOR THIS PARTIR REQUIREMENT.

I THINK WE'VE DEMONSTRATED THATG THE CONCURRENT OPERATIONAL TIMED NOT BE AN ISSUE AND WOULDN'T HAO LIMIT THE ACTIVITIES OF EITHER E INDUSTRIAL USES OR THE COMMERCIL RECREATION.

AND BY DOING SO, I THINK WE WOUE A HARDSHIP FOR BOTH. AND WITH THAT, WE REQUEST APPROF

BOTH, AGAIN IN THE ORDER AS REC, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUE. >> THANK YOU.

I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE A FEW. RATHER THAN STARTING OUT MYSELFO THROUGH THE LIST OF .

QUESTIONS. DR. HILSENBECK. >> WELL, I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIOS INITIALLY BUT THEY'VE BEEN ANSWD DURING THE PRESENTATION SO I HAO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

AND NO EX PARTE. >> MR. WAINRIGHT. >> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

MS. TAYLOR, AND I'LL COME BACK E HARDSHIP ISSUE HOPEFULLY AT THE. WHAT MAINTAINS THIS PROPORTION E BETWEEN RECREATIONAL USE AND COL USE? I'VE READ THROUGH THE EXHIBITS,T LOOKS LIKE THREE-QUARTERS OF TH, TWO-THIRDS OF THE SPACE IS NOW E DEVOTED TO TRAINING OF SOME KINE KIND OF ATHLETIC THING. WHAT WILL MAINTAIN THAT OR WHY D THAT -- IS THERE ANYTHING IN HET

MAINTAINS THAT RATIO OR CAN IT L BECOME COMMERCIAL? >> NO.

IT CANNOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO T BUSINESS APPLICATION AND APPLY A BUSINESS USE.

SO THE COUNTY HAS CONTROL OVER S TO THE CERTAIN UNITS WITHIN THE BUILDING.

SO WE DID THE FIVE BECAUSE THATE THE MAXIMUM WITH STILL ALLOWINGE CAPABILITY.

THEY MIGHT HAVE THREE AT ONE TIT THEY COULD NEVER HAVE MORE THANN EITHER BUILDING.

YOU MIGHT HAVE ONE THAT WOULD TO SPACES AND THAT WOULD COUNT AS S WELL.

>> THANK YOU. HOW FAR AWAY ARE THE CLOSEST RES TO HERE?

CAN YOU TEP ME UNDERSTAND THAT? >> A LONG WAY AWAYBASICALLY YOUD THAT'S WHERE ALL COMMERCIAL DEVT HAS GONE. THE THIS IS THE FIRST INDUSTRIA. WE'VE GOT SECOND ONE BY THE LIT, BRONZE GLOW LANDFILL, BRONZE GLY WHICH IS ACROSS. YOU DO HAVE CHURCH ACTIVITIES IF THESE. YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES.

I THINK CYNTHIA POINTED OUT THAS PROPERTY TO THIS SIDE IS THE PRY THAT WE JUST GOT A CHANGE TO A E CHANGE FOR THAT TO ALLOW FOR A CAMPGROUND, BUT THAT IS STILL QA WAYS AWAY FROM THE OTHER PROPER.

>> THANK YOU. AND THAT BRINGS ME BACK TO THE I SAID I WOULD COME BACK TO, THE .

THAT'S A DELICATE ISSUE. THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD USE FORS PROPERTY.

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>> SOME COULD SAY. >> WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? >> AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE THE CODE S WRITTEN, HAS TO BE WRITTEN VERY GENERALLY AND HAS TO BE WRITTENA SUBSTANTIVE TYPE THING.

SO WHEN YOU TALK INDUSTRIAL PART COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM THIS 40,O 300,000, 500,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IF IT'U KNOW, A DISTRIBUTION CENTER OR G LIKE THAT WHERE YOU'VE GOT MAJOC GOING IN. SO WHEN YOU CRAFT THE ORDINANCEE ORDINANCE NFHS I THINK CREATES E HARD -- ITSELF CREATES THE HARDR THE TRAFFIC AREA. I'VE GOTTEN THESE BEFORE ON SINT MORE THAN ONE AT A TIME, BUT SUCCESSFULLY AGAIN BECAUSE THE P IS THAT BOTH TYPES OF BUSINESSED

HAVE DIFFICULTIES WITH ESTABLISG THEIR SPECIFIC HOURS. >> THANK YOU.

I NOTICE EACH TIME IN YOUR PRESS WHEN YOU COME TO THIS HARDSHIP , YOUR VOICE DROPS.

THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER] >> THANK YOU, ARCHIE.

I HAVE SOMETHING ABOUT PARKING E MATH. SO -- AND MIGHT HAVE THIS WRONG.

THERE'S 11 UNITS PER BUILDING. >> MM-HM. FEET.

LET'S JUST SAY THAT. >> CORRECT. >> SO THE DESIRE TO HAVE FIVE O1 OR SLIGHTLY LESS THAN HALF BE TR RECREATIONAL CATEGORY, SO FIVE S TIMES -- YOU SAID THIS WERE SEVN

PARKING SPACES PER UNIT IS 35. >> IT'S BASICALLY .63. DEPENDS.

SO IF YOU DO 2, IT'S NOT. >> SO ROUGHLY SPEAKING HERE. >> YES.

>> FIVE UNITS AT 7 SPACES PER US 35. CAN'T ARGUE THAT.

IF THE OTHER 7 UNITS GO -- I'M - THE OTHER 6 UNITS GO TO THE COML THAT'S ALLOWED, RIGHT?

IS COMMERCIAL ALLOWED? >> NO. >> YOU HAD SHOWED IN YOUR EXAMPE

THAT -- >> NO, THAT'S -- >> YOU COULD HAVE SOME OFFICE SE

THERE LIKE THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW. >> THEY DO. THEY DO.

YES. >> SO LET'S SAY IT'S COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS ALLOWED, CORRECT?

>> NOT PER SE LIKE YOU'RE THINK. YES, AS A WAREHOUSE ACTIVITY, YR OFFICE AS PART OF THAT.

>> SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET ATS IS THAT THE OTHER SEVEN OR SIX S RATHER IN THAT BUILDING WENT TOE THAT ALSO WAS SIMILAR TO WHAT TE TRUCKING COMPANY HAS, THE OFFIC, WHATEVER, THAT THAT'S GOING TO E ROUGHLY SEVEN PER BAY AS WELL, ? AND NOW YOU'VE GOT AN INADEQUATT OF PARKING.

I'M ASSUMING STAFF CAN ANSWER TS REALLY. >> WELL, THAT'S A PROBLEM, AND N THING THEY DEFINED HAVE TO POLIT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THAT ISE OBVIOUSLY TO HAPPEN.

BUT THE BUSINESS SERVICE KIND O, LIKE I SAID, AND I'M USING AN EE THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE SMIH TRUCKING, YES, HALF OF THEIRS IR OFFICE SPACES. SO THEIR OFFICE UNIT OR WHATEVEU KNOW, DOES CONSTITUTE A CERTAINR OF SPACES. IT ALL KIND OF DEPENDS.

EACH OF THOSE, LIKE THE MEAL PRY HAVE THEIR LITTLE OFFICE SPACE T AND THEN THEY HAVE --

>> SURE. THAT'S HOW IT'S DIFFERENT. >> WHERE THEY KIND OF DO.

BUT TO HAVE ROWS OF OFFICES WIT, THAT'S NOT AN INDUSTRIAL TYPE U. THAT'S MORE AN OFFICE AND PROFEL

TYPE USE. >> CAN STAFF HELP GUIDE ME. I'M JUST CURIOUS THAT IF THIS IS GRANTED, THEN THEY HAVE THE ABIO HAVE THE HIGHER DENSITY IN HALFE BUILDING.

IS THAT EVER -- WHEN DO YOU GUYT THAT? AND SAY IS THERE AN ADD QUAMENTT

OF PARKING IF IT WAS ONE THING ? >> WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT WHEN TE CONSTRUCTION PLANS COME IN OR WR WHEN A PERSON CAME IN TO ACTUALN OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE OR A BUSINS RECEIPT.

WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT TO SEE THE IS ADEQUATE PARKING TO ACCOMMODT PARTICULAR USE THAT THEY ARE AS.

THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED IW. A SPECIAL USE IS FOR A USE THATS ALLOWED BY SPECIAL USE, AND IW,S

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>> I'M SATISFIED WITH THAT. IN TERMS OF THE HARDSHIP, IF YOD THIS THING IN A PUD AND SAID GIE THIS COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY THERE,K THAT WOULD BE GRANTED PRETTY EAO I'M NOT THAT CONCERNED ABOUT IT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> QUESTIONS. MS. PERKINS? >> NO QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. MR. ALAIMO. >> NO QUESTIONS.

>> MR. MATOVINA. >> I DO HAVE QUESTIONS OR CONCE. LET ME SAY FIRST THAT GLENN SMIA GOOD FRIEND OF MINE AND I THINKS A GOOD USE, QUITE FRANKLY. MY BIGGEST CONCERNS CENTER ALONE SIMILAR QUESTIONING FOR ARCHIE , AND THAT IS IF YOU SCATTER A BUH RECREATIONAL USES OUT AMIDST SOF THESE WAREHOUSE USES, AND THEN E THE SAME HOURS OF OPERATION, WHH YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THE HOURS OF OPERATION, I GET THAT,E THIS WORK, I'M KIND OF STRUGGLIH WAY TO GETTING TO VOTING FOR THE THINGS IN A POSITIVE MANNER, BUY ISSUE IS PROBABLY WITH -- I HAVE WITH THE HARDSHIP, TOO, BUT SECF 2.0.243 ASKS FOR A CLEAR SEPARAF INCOMPATIBLE USES. IF WE SCATTER A BUNCH RECREATIOS AMONGST A BUNCH OF INDUSTRIAL UM NOT SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE COMPATIBILITY REQUIREMENT, AND K FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT IT E A CHALLENGE ALSO. SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO AGGREGATE E RECREATIONAL USES INTO ONE OF TE BUILDINGS AND HAVE THE INDUSTRIE USES IN THE OTHER? I MEAN, HAVING A PRETTY INTIMAE KNOWLEDGE OF GLENN SMITH'S OPERI KNOW THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE WHS FIELD EQUIPMENT IS BUT I EXPECTU OCCASIONALLY A DUMP TRUCK OR TWL PULL INTO THAT PARKING LOT.

AND SO THAT'S -- THAT'S REALLY T QUESTION FOR YOU. >> MR. MATOVINA, WE ACTUALLY TAD ABOUT THAT AND WE KIND OF TALKET IT BY BUILDING BECAUSE THE SEC G ISN'T UP AT THIS POINT.

WE REALLY DOESN'T HAVE A CONCEP. AND WE CAN INITIALLY -- AND THEE CERTAINLY INITIALLY WILLING TO E THEM TO A CERTAIN SECTION OF THE BUILDING. BUT AS TENANTS TURN OVER OVER T, YOU COULDN'T -- SOMETHING MIGHTE VACANT AND SOMETHING ELSE MIGHTE CHANGED TO INDUSTRIAL AND THIS,E FEEL LIKE THE SEPARATION REALLYS BECAUSE OF THE USES BECAUSE, AGY ARE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER BUE ARE NOT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL KIND O. LIKE GLENN'S OPERATION WITH THET TRUCKS AND THE DIFFERENT THINGST COME, THAT'S TOTALLY SEPARATE. AND IN THIS KIND OF THING, YES,U MIGHT HAVE A LARGE TRUCK THERE A WHILE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION BUSIR SOMETHING BUT IT'S NOT ON A REGR BASIS.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT -- >> HOW DO WE KNOW THAT? HOW DO WE KNOW THAT?

WE DON'T KNOW WHO ALL THESE TEN. YOU JUST SAID YOURSELF -- >> THAT'S TRUE.

I KNOW TENANTS THAT HE INITIALLR WHATEVER, BUT I ALSO KNOW WHEN E TALKING ABOUT THESE KIND OF BUSS THAT HAVE THESE SMALL SPACES, 20 SQUARE FEET ISN'T BIG ENOUGH TOE MAJOR, MAJOR SHIPPING, MANUFACT, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT IT IS FOR SMALLER ACTIVITIEE THE MEAL PREP WHERE THEY PUT TOR MEALS AND SHIP THOSE OUT. THEY DON'T PARTICULARLY USE LARE TRUCK, BUT --

>> SO HE'D BE OKAY WITH A RESTRT SAYS ONLY ONE BAY CAN BE LEASEDE BUSINESS.

I DIDN'T THINK SO. >> WHAT NOW? ONE BAY, ONE BUSINESS?

YES. >> YES. >> HE COULD LEASE TWO BAYS TO OE

BUSINESS. IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN? >> YOU JUST SAID WE WON'T HAVE S BEYOND 2,000 SQUARE FEET BECAUSE ARE 1900 SQUARE FOOT BAZE, AND O YOU'D BE OKAY WITH LIMITING OF E SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR EACH BUSINESE BAY, WHICH YOU'RE NOT GOING TO . I KNOW THAT'S AN ABSURD QUESTIO.

BUT YOU DO NOT KNOW WHEN YOU BUT SECOND BUILDING, SOMEBODY MAY TE WHOLE BUILDING AND IT'S FOR IND.

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YOU DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TOW T QUESTION. >> WELL, AND IF THEY DO, THERE T

BE ANY ROOM FOR ANY COMMERCIAL RECREATION. >> I'VE MADE MY POINT.

>> SO AGAIN, I GUESS SOME OF ITE TO KIND OF TRUST IN THEIR KIND S TOO.

THEY DON'T WANT DON'T CONFLICT H ANYTHING THAT THEIR INDUSTRIAL. THE INDUSTRIAL IS THEIR BREAD A.

THIS IS KIND OF AN ADDED THING. AND I DON'T THINK, WHEN GLENN AI FIRST WORK ON THIS, THE THOUGHTT HE WAS GOING TO GET THIS MUCH IT FROM THAT, BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE OF PALENCIA BEING THERE AND THE SCD THE ACTIVE LEVELS AND THEN AS YO THE OTHER SIDE, THERE'S VERY LID SPACE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THESE F ACTIVITIES, AND SO HE KIND OF FT KIND OF HAPPENED. THE NEXT BUILDING MIGHT HAVE ON.

HE MAY HAVE ALREADY USED UP ALLS THAT WOULD, AND ONE OF THESE ORF THESE MIGHT DROP OUT.

YOU NEVER KNOW. SO, YES, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO WORK H THAT. BUT GLENN HIMSELF USES TWO BAYSS OPERATION.

HE'S GOT HIS STORAGE AND STUFF . HE'S GOT ALL OF HIS OFFICE SPACN ANOTHER.

AND THEN HE ALSO HAS THE STORAG, WHICH IS ALL HIS TRUCKS FOR HIST BUSINESS.

>> YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED TE QUESTION HOW YOU DEAL WITH COMP COMPATIBILITY.

>> WELL, LIKE I SAID, I DO FEELT THERE IS -- THERE WILL BE A SEPN OF THE USES, AND JUST BY THE LAF

THE OVERALL SITE. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIR. >> THANK YOU, MR. MATOVINA.

DR. MCCORMICK, ANY QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. >> ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GO TO PUBLIC SPEAKERS. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS? >> NO, SIR.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKES ONLINE? >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> YOU BE SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIE. >> IF YOU COULD APPROACH, WE'LLU A PUBLIC SPEAKER CARD YOU NEED L OUT. IF YOU CAN HAND THAT TO ONE OF F MEMBERS.

IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME ANS FOR THE RECORD, YOU GET THREE M. >> I'M MELISSA TATE I REED IT'S- [INDECIPHERABLE] IN VILLAGE. I AM ONE OF THE POTENTIAL TENAN.

I PLAN TO OPEN A DANCE STUDIO. MY DANCE STUDIO IS PLANNED TO ACCOMMODATE EIGHT CLIENTS AT A D IF BUSINESS IS GOOD THEN I COULE ALL EIGHT IN THERE AT ONE TIME,M LOOKING AT THE MINIMUM OF FIVE E 1 SO IN REFERENCE TO THE PARKINI WOULD NOT TAKE UP A LOT OF THE E THAT IS AVAILABLE TO ME, AND MYF OPERATION, I PLAN TO ONLY OPERAE BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 9:00 IN THG TO IN THE 6:00 IN THE EVENING.

AND THIS HAS BEEN A LONGTIME DRF MINE TO START THIS DANCE STUDIO. I'M A DISABLED VET.

I WORKED IN THE POWER INDUSTRY E YEARS. I LEFT THE POWER INDUSTRY TO PUY DREAM TO OPEN A STUDIO, AND I SS LOCATION AS A GREAT LOCATION. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO A LOT ON THE COMMUNITY TO HELP OTHER DISD VETERANS, AND SO I THINK THAT IT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO AND AH FOR ME AND ANYONE ELSE THAT WOUE LOOKING TO START A BUSINESS FOR THEMSELVES.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THE HOURS -- SHERRY'S GOTIT IN . THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE PRETH THE HOURS OF EVERYONE IN OPERAT THERE. OKAY. WE HAD NO ONE ONLINE.

IS THAT CORRECT? FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AND NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT HN THE BUILDING? ALL RIGHT.

SORRY FOR OVERLOOKING THAT. WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY, THOUGR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE AT

OR COMMENTS AMONGST OURSELVES. GO THROUGH THE LIST. >> MAY I MAKE A COMMENT?

>> YOU MAY, ARCHIE. >> ECONOMIC TOUGH TIMES. THIS IS A BUSINESS GENERATOR.

THE FIT IS NOT PERFECT. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. I THINK ANYTHING THAT CAN GENERH

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FLOW AND GROWTH IN THE ECONOMY,C BASE OF THE COUNTY IS A GOOD ID. >> OKAY.

I WANT THROG THROUGH THE ROLL CU LIST. WE HAVE A SPECIAL USE AND A ZONG VARIANCE TO CONSIDER HERE. DR. HILSENBECK. COMMENTS?

>> NO FURTHER COMMENTS. >> ARCHIE, YOU'VE DONE YOURS. I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENTS MYSE.

MS. PERKINS. >> NO COMMENTS. >> MR. ALAIMO.

>> NO COMMENTS, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MR. MATO? >> I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK STAFF, E THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS COULD E ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THE USE OF, BUT THEN THAT WOULD, OF COURSE,E THE APPLICANT TO GO TO THE NEXTT THE BOARD LEVEL IN THE COURSE -- ASSUMING THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY

OBJECTIONS. >> MR. CHAIR, YES, THAT IS CORR. THIS COULD BE ACHIEVED THROUGH D UNIT DEVELOPED, A PUD. HOWEVER, THE COUNTY DID ADOPT TE SPECIAL USE STANDARDS FOR THE CL RECREATION IN THE INDUSTRIAL BU, AND THESE INDUSTRIAL ZONING CAT. BECAUSE OF HOW SOME OF THESE INL OR THESE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL RECREATION ACTIVITIES OCCURRED, THEY NEED THAT TYPE OF BUILDING, THEY NEED THAT SAME -Y NEED THAT SAME AREA THAT INDUSTL SPACES SOMETIMES NEED, AND THISA WAY TO TRY TO ACHIEVE SOME OF TT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND NOT HAY COMMERCIAL RECREATION USE THAT O THE COUNTY TRY TO SEEK A PUD FO. AND COMMERCIAL ZONING DID NOT SE PRESENTING THOSE TYPE OF EXISTIG BUILDING THAT THEY NEEDED FOR TT SPACE. SO THAT MAY BE ONE REASON WHY TY ADOPTED OR THAT IS ONE OF THE RS THE COUNTY ADOPTED THIS PARTICUR SPECIAL USE PRESERVATION AS WELT

HAVING EVERYONE GO THROUGH A PUY TO ACHIEVE THAT PARTICULAR USE. >> THANK YOU.

I REMEMBER DOING A FEW OF THESEE PAST. ALL RIGHT.

SATISFIED, MR. MATOVINA? >> MR. CHAIR, ONE MORE QUESTIONF STAFF.

EXCUSE ME. SO WE'VE APPROVED THESE IN THE T PRESUMABLY IN THIS FASHION.

AND DO YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE ENCOD ANY ISSUES WITH -- I MEAN, THE W BUILT ISSUE IN MY OPINION IS GOO OCCUR IN THE PARKING LOT IF IT'G TO OCCUR ANYWHERE. HAVE WE ENCOUNTER THOSE AS FAR U

KNOW? >> MR. CHAIR. THERE HAS NOT BEEN, TO THE BESTY KNOWLEDGE, ANY ISSUES THAT HAS P WITH OUR COMMERCIAL RECREATION E HAVE APPROVED IN OUR INDUSTRIAL.

THE COUNTY DID PUT THE PROCESSO. THIS APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR A S TO ONE OF THOSE PROCEDURES BECAO WANT TO KEEP OUR INDUSTRIAL USET AND KEEP OUR INDUSTRIAL ZONING T FOR OUR INDUSTRIAL USES.

BUT AGAIN, WE DID ADOPT THIS COL RECREATION FOR A SPECIFIC REASOR REASONS THAT GIVE PROPERTY OWNED APPLICANTS OPPORTUNITIES TO DO E TYPE OF USES IN VARIOUS PARTS OE COUNTY IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS BECAY DO NEED THAT TYPE OF SPACE. THEY SHARE A SIMILAR SPACE THATO NEED.

>> THANK YOU, TERESA. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. >> AND FINALLY DR. MCCORMICK.

>> YES. I'VE BEEN LISTENING VERY CAREFU. I HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING.

BUT THERE'S BEEN GOOD PROS AND S OFFERED BY AGENCY MEMBERS AS WEE STAFF AND THE APPLICANT ON BOTHF THIS ISSUE.& HAVING SAID ALL THAT, ARCHIE ALY SAID HE WOULD PROBABLY PROPOSE E APPROVE THIS MOTION OR WE HAVE N TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

PROJECT UNLESS ARCHIE WANTS TO . >> I GET TO DECIDE THAT. ARCHIE'S DECIDING FOR ME.

HE SAYS GO AHEAD, DR. MCCORMICK. >> ALL RIGHT. AND WE'RE TAKING NUMBER 2 FIRST?

>> IS THAT APPROPRIATE OR NUMBE? NUMBER 3 FIRST. SUPMAJ.

>> OKAY. NUMBER 3 THEN. MOTION TO APPROVE SUPMAJ 2020-08

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NINE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. >> ARCHIE, DO YOU WANT TO SECON? >> SECOND.

>> AND A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, WE WILL VOTE ON IM NUMBER 3. DOING THE ROLL CALL. DR. HILSENBECK.

>> YES. >> MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES.

>> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES, MOO APPROVE. MS. PERKINS.

>> YES P. >> . >> MR. ALAIMO.

>> YES. >> MR. MATOVINA. >> YES.

>> AND DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES 7-0, UNANIMOUS. BILL, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AA MOTION ON NUMBER 2, PLEASE, ZONG

VARIANCE. >> ARCHIE, DO YOU WANT TO DO IT? >> NO.

>> GO AHEAD, BILL. >> I'LL DO IT. MOTION TO APPROVE A ZONING VARIR 2020-14 ST. MARKS INDUSTRIAL PAC SECTION 2 .03.43. C TO ALLOW A Y COMMERCIAL RECREATION ACTIVITY O OPERATE DURING THE HOURS OF OPEF THE PERMITTED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL T ST. MARKS INDUSTRIAL PARK, BASEX

FINDINGS OF FACT AND SUBJECT TOX CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOW AND MOTION AD FROM MR. WAINRIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, WE'LL GO THROUGH L CALL. DR. HILSENBECK.

>> YES. >> MR. WHAIRN. >> YES.

>> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MS. PERKINS. >> .

MS. PERKINS DO YOU VOTE YES OR ? MEAGAN, ARE YOU STILL ON? COME BACK TO HER.

MR. ALAIMO. >> YES. >> MR. MATOVINA.

>> YES. >> AND DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES.

>> MEAGAN PERKINS, ARE YOU STIL? >> YES, I'M SORRY. I LOST SERVICE.

MY VOTE IS YES. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT MOTION CARRIES 7-0 AND PAS.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, KAREN. ITEM NUMBER 4.

[4. REZ 2020-13 SJC Utilities Expansion]

SO I'LL STILL BE YOUR CHAIR HERL JUST NOT VOTE. AGREED?

ALL RIGHT. IF WE COULD HAVE -- RON, HOW AR? >> JUST FINE.

YOURSELF? >> VERY GOOD. >> THE FLOOR IS YOURS BE.

>> BRIBE KELSEY IS THE JOHNS COY PUBLIC WORKS. WE'RE HERE TO REQUEST A REZONINF APPROXIMATELY FOUR AND A HALF AF OVERALL 14.48-ACRE SITE FROM OPL TO PUBLIC SERVICE.

THIS IS AN AREA, IT'S NEXT TO AN EXISTING ST. JOHNS COUNTY UTILIS FACILITY, SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'SG CHANGE IN USE. HERE'S THE PICTURE OFIT. YOU CAN SEE THE AREA WE'RE CONSG IS THE NORTHWEST AREA, WEST OF D THERE. IT'S ALREADY BEEN CLEARED.

THE ENGINEERING HAS ALREADY BEEE FOR ANY OF THE STORM WATER CALCS AND ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

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THEIR CURRENT STILT IS OVER ON H YEAH ISLAND SO ANY TIME THERE'SA MARILYN STORM THEY HAVE TO EVACD LIKE WITH MOST LAB EQUIPMENT ITA LOT OF HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS BUT A BOD 5 TESTER WHEN YOU HAVE TO GW THINGS IN A MEDIA FOR FIVE DAYSF YOU HAVE TO LEAVE IN THE MIDDLEE STORM, THAT RUINS ALL YOUR SAMP.

AND JUST THINGS LIKE THAT JUST Y REASONS FOR UTILITY FOLKS. SCADA.

THERE'S THE EXISTING UTILITY WA, AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE PROPO DO TO THE NEW FACILITY.

IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE UP THE EE AREA. IT'S JUST A SMALL PORTION.

AND EVENTUALLY DOWN THE LINE WEE SOUTH FOR FURTHER EXPANSION TO Y OPERATIONS.

YOU CAN SKI THIS IS THIS NEW UTB BUILDING AND THE NORTH SIDE IS E POSSIBLE SCADA.

I THINK THERE'S EIGHT OFFICES AS MOSTLY LAB SPACE. AS I MENTIONED, IT'S RIGHT NEXTO

OTHER UTILITY BUILDINGS. IT'S NOT A LARGE CHANGE IN LAND. >> IS THAT ALL OF THE SLIDES?

>> YES. >> ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD ADD, ? >> IF YOU CAN'T TELL, THIS IS MT

TIME UP HERE. >> YOU CAN CALL AT A REALLY HANE BUILDING, BUT THAT MIGHT BE BIA.

ALL RIGHT. >> MR. CHAIR, IF THERE'S ANY EXE OTHER THAN THE CHAIR, THE AGENCN

EXPOSE THAT. >> I WILL GO THROUGH THAT WITH QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, BRIAN. IF YOU WANT TO HANG OUT THERE, E IF ANYTHING COMES UP FOR YOU.

DR. HILSENBECK, ANY QUESTIONS AY EX PARTE TO DECLARE? >> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS AND NO E.

>> MR. WAINRIGHT. >> NO EX PARTE. I HAVE A QUESTION NOW OR LATER.

>> GO AHEAD. >> WOULD YOU SUMMARIZE AGAIN ANY HAZARDOUS MATERIAL USED HERE OR EXPLOSIVES OR HEAVENS FORBID WET GOING TO HAVE A BEIRUT IN ST. JS COUNTY IN THIS FACILITY?

>> NO, SIR. IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL LABORATOR. IT'S MOSTLY COLLECTING WATER AND WASTEWATER SAMPLES AND ANALYZINM FOR NEW FREENTS AND FOR MONCKS - NUTRIENTS AND MICROOCCURRENCE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY HAZS CEBLES. THERE MIGHT BE A SMALL CANISTERF CORNING GAS, I THINK. I DON'T BELIEVE THEEFN HAVE THA. I THINK THAT'S THEY WASTE WRAWR

FACILITY. >> THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE 2,00F NITRATE OR WHATNOT.

>> NO, NO. IT'S JUST A LAB TO ANALYZE WATES >> THANK YOU.

>> MS. PERKINS. QUESTIONS AND EX PARTE. >> NO EX PARTE.

NO QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. MR. ALAIMO.

>> NO QUESTIONS AND NO EX PARTE. >> THANK YOU. MR. MATOVINA.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M HAPPY TO RI HAVE NO QUESTIONS OR EX PARTE. >> I'M HAPPY TOO.

DR. MCCORMICK. >> NONE AND NONE. >> ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS ? >> NO. >> DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKES

ONLINE? >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> ALL RIGHT.

WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SEC. ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, BRIAN? >> NO, THAT'S IT.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL BRING IT AROUND TO THE AGN

FOR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS OR A M. >> I'LL OFFER A MOTION IF THEREO COMMENTS OR NO ONE ELSE WISHES .

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>> YOU MAY, ARCHIE. >> I'D OFFER A MOTION TO RECOMMD APPROVAL OF RES 2020-13SJC UTILS EXPANSION, A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 4.49 ACRES OF AN L 14.48 ACRES FROM OPEN RURAL TO C SERVICE IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR TE EXPANSION OF THE CURRENT ST. JOS COUNTY UTILITIES FACILITY LOCATD

ON-SITE BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS T AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT. DR. HILSENBECK WITH A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE WILL VOTE THROUL CALL.

DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES. >> MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> YES. >> MS. PERKINS. >> YES.

>> MR. ALAIMO. >> YES. >> MR. MATOVINA.

>> YES. >> AND DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 6 HELP 6-0. >> BRIAN, YOU GET TO ADD THAT TR

RESUME. >> WE'RE GOING TEAK A SHORT RECR POTTY BREAK AND THEN RESUME LETS

[5. PUD 2020-02 Edmonds Family Partnership Boat & RV PUD]

>> THERE'S ONE MORE THING ON THA ITEM NUMBER 5. MR. BURNETT, WE'VE GOT A FEW PUC

SPEAKER CARDS EL WA HAVE TO H WELL. >> MAY I OFFER EX PARTE FIRST O?

>> WE CAN DO THAT WHEN WE DO THE QUESTIONS UNLESS, PATRICK, WOULU LIKE TO DO THAT AHEAD OF TIME?

>> I THINK YOU CAN. IT'S USUALLY PREFERABLE TO DO IS THE BEGINNING.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO LOO THE ROLL CALL AND E EX PARTE ONLY.

DR. DRIVE-IN SERVICE . DR. HILSENBECK. DO WE HAVE OUR FOLKS BACK ONLINN

ARCHIE, YOU'RE HERE. >> YES, I SPOKE WITH MR. BURR NY PHONE.

HE WENT OVER THIS PROJECT. >> I DECLARE EX PART DAY AS WEL. I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WHERE TE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY WAS DESCRIT TO ME. MS. PERKINS.

>> I'M HERE, AND I SPOKE WITH DN TUESDAY AND WE HAD A CONVERSATIT THE APPLICATION.

>> THANK YOU. MR. ALAIMO. >> YES, I NEEDED TO DECLARE EX .

YOU SPOKE WITH MR. BURNETT YESTY ABOUT THE PROJECT. >> THANK YOU.

MR. MATOVINA. >> I ALSO HAD EX PARTE WITH DOUT AND WE DISCUSSED WHAT THE VARIOS WERE ON THE PROPERTY IN THE ANDE HOURS OF OPERATION AND WHETHER -

>> DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES WP I ALSO , I ALSO HG BURNETT AND WE WENT OVER VARIOUS

OF THE PROJECT WITH ME. AND ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS. >> CIRCLING BACK, DR. HYMNAL.

>> YES. I'M NOW ON THE TELEVISION SCREED WE'D BE BACK ON AT 3:25 SO YOU'A LITTLE EARLY. IN ANY EVENT WE DO HAVE THREE EE COMMUNICATIONS TO DECLARE.

IF FIRST WRUN IS A CONVERSATIONH DOUG BARNETT -- BURNETT, EXCUSE, ABOUT THE PROJECT.

SECOND ONE I DID DRIVE BY THE P. AND I DID DRIVE INTO THE NEIGHBD THAT ABUTS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND MY THIRD ONE IS BECAUSE THEY GUARD WOULD NOT ALLOW ME INTO TE NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER A LENGTHY DIN IN ORDER TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BEND STREET. I CONTACTED ONE OF THE OWNERS WR OPPOSING THE REZONING AND ASKEDO CALL THE SECURITY GUARD AND GETE ACCESS, AND THEY DID, AND THAT N

WAS DAN AND HIS WIFE ELEANOR MA. >> ALL RIGHT. GOOD TO KNOW.

EX PARTE HAS BEEN DECLARED. DOUG, THE FLOORS IS JURIES. >> AGENCY MEMBERS, FOR THE RECOG BURNETT, ST. JOHNS LAW GROUP HEN ST. AUGUSTINE, 104 MAIN STREET. WITH ME TODAY ALSO THIS IS THE S FAMILY PARTNERSHIP, BOAT AND RVE PUD. WITH ME TODAY THE STEVE EDMONDSF

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THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ONES WHEREW THE DEVELOPMENT COME ALL AROUNDM WHILE THEY'VE OTHE PAST COUPLE .

LOOKING AT THE PROJECT AREA, YOE GENERALLY HERE RELIEF PARKWAY TS DOWN AND ABUTS, AND CONNECTS TOE ROAD 16, STATE ROAD 16A, OBVIOUN ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT INTERNATIONL GOVERNMENT PARKWAY WHERE STATE 5 COMES 16. AND THAN THE COULDING ON STATE D EXPEAN AND THEN STATE ROAD 16 TT HARD LEFT TOWARDS WHERE THE PROS ON THE THE WAY TO STATE ROAD 13. A LITTLE CLOSER AERIAL YOU CAN W IN THIS AERIAL SILVER LEAF PARKY COMING UP TO THE NORTH WHERE ITO STATE ROAD 16 AND COUNTY ROAD 1.

YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECT IN THE D SQUARE. A LITTLE CLOSER LOOK, YOU CAN SE NUMBER OF ROOFTOPS IN THIS AREAT ALREADY EXIST. A LITTLE CLOSER LOOK AT IT, YOUE WARDS CREEK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST AND ALLE PROPERTY IN THAT AREA BETWEEN TE PROJECT AND WARDS CREEK IS ALL F THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S PROPERTY. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE KING AE BEAR TO THE EAST OF THE PROJECT. THE PROJECT DIRECTLY FRONTS STAD 16.

LOOKING AT THE PROJECT ITSELF, G TO TURN THIS IN A MOMENT BUT I'T SHOW YOU THIS IS THE ACTUAL MDPD THE REGULAR FORMAT. IT'S NOT POINTED NORTH, SO IF IT INTO THE NORTH ORIENTATION TO ME AERIALS THAT I WAS JUST SHOWINGE THING TO POINT ON IT IS THAT THM PORTION OF THE PROJECT IS ALL WZ OR GOING TO BE PRESERVED AS WETS LONG-TERM AND SO REALLY FOCUSINE FRONT PART OF THE PROJECT SO THN ZOOM INTO THAT AND I'M GOING TOF OF THE GREEN ON THE BOTTOM OF TT SO WE CAN ZOOM IN AND TAKE A CLE WAY WE'VE LAID IT OUT, AND IT IT AND RV STORAGE IS THE WAY THIS P DEPICTS, THE YELLOW LINE THAT IG THIS EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PRS THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY. AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOE CURRENTLY. YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE DRIVEWAT GOES BACK TO THE HOUSE THAT'S AE BOTTOM OF OUR PROJECT. AND SO EXISTING, VERY BOTTOM BAF THE SCREEN HERE STARTING ON THEN AND CONTINUE CAN OFF THE SCREENN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE. IT'S AN NONDZ FAMILY MEMBER THAS IN THAT HOME. AND CURRENTLY THEIR DRIVEWAY GOO THE NORTH.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKEN THIS PROJECT FROM THE VERY BEGIS HOW DO WE MAYBE DO SOMETHING THS THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE D THE BEAR, AND WHAT WE CAME UP WS TO TAKE THAT AREA SPECIFICALLY N NIGHT OUR LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND E THAT DRIVEWAY SO THAT THE HOUSEL CONNECT AND ACTUALLY USE THE DRE IN THE BOAT AND RV STORAGE. SO IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE THE Y COMES UP BUT WHEN THIS AREA RIGE IT CONNECTS TO THE BOAT AND RV E AND COMES TO ONE ACCESS POINT. WE HAVE DONE OUR FDOT PREOP MEED FDOT HAS APPROVED. THIS. THEY'RE VERY HAPPY WE'RE NOT GOO HAVE TWO ACCESS POINT, THAT WE'G TO APPROVE THE EXISTING DRIVEILH THE ACCESS POINT FOR THE BOAT AV STORAGE. TAKING A LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE E CLOSELY, THE BROWN LINE IS THE T BUFFER THAT EXISTS WITHIN THE KD THE BEAR. WITHIN THIS 50-FOOT BUFFER IS AT TALL LANDSCAPE BERM, AND WHAT WE ON OUR PROJECT IS INSIDE OF OURT BOUNDARY LAYERED IN NEXT TO THA.

WE'RE ONLY REQUIRED A 30-FOOT B. WHAT WE DID VERY EARLY ON IN DEG THIS SITE IS ASKED THE PROJECT , MICHAEL BLOOMA, TO TAKE THE SIGF AND SHIFT EVERYTHING TO THE WESN FEET.

SO WE TOOK TEN FEET OF THE BUFFM THEES LEFT SIDE OF PROJECT AND T RIGHT SIDE OF THE PROJECT SO WED HAVE 40-FOOT OF BUFFER BETWEEN E PROJECT AND THE KING AND THE BEO INCREASE THAT.

SO IN TOTAL THERE'S 90 FEET OF R BEFORE THOSE LOTS THAT ARE ADJAO US.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ACTUALLYS THIS REDUCTION IN BUFFER IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR.

SO OFTEN IN PUDS EVERYWHERE ELSE COUNTY WE SEE PUDS HAVING A TENT BUFFER, A PERIMETER BUFFER.

ON THIS ONE IN THE NORTHWEST SET SAYS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A 30-FT DEVELOPMENT EDGE.

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THE LITTLE ORANGE QUARE IS A 1,0 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDINGS, TE OF SETUP THAT WOULD BE ENVISIONT WOULD BE A 9:00 TO 5:00 OPERATIO THAT IF YOU WANTED TO COME AND P FOR A BOAT AND RV STORAGE PLACEU COULD COME THERE TO THE OFFICE. NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS, GET THE N YOUR CONTRACT, AND BE ABLE TO BA CUSTOMER OF THE FACILITY. ONE THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUTS BECAUSE THIS IS RESIDENTIAL A OE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WHEN AWAY R PUD TECHS, WE PUT IN THE LANGUAF REGULAR RESIDENTIAL A USES.

THIS IS IN THIS SECTION OF OUR S ON PAGE 2. THEN WHAT WE ALSO DID WAS WE INA LIST OF PERMISSIBLE USES IN ADDO THAT. THE RED SQUARE I THINK I TOLD MF YOU THIS ON THE TELEPHONE WHEN D THE AGENCY MEMBERS, THE RED SQUS LANGUAGE WE'RE GOING TO DELETE R PUD TECHS. THAT WILL NOT BE IN OUR PUD TECS BETWEEN NOW AND THE BOARD BOY COMMISSIONERS. SPECIFICALLY, ALL OF THOSE USESS THAT PUD TEXT -- I'LL PROBABLY U IT AGAIN LATER SWIBT INCLUDES TS SUCH AS RESTAURANTS, CONVENIENC, CEMETERY IS, MORE OBITUARIES, AR ARE MORE CHAIR IS A NUMBER OF UT ARE FAR MORE INTENSE THAN WHAT Y WANT, AND SO YOU COULD READ THIS TO SAY THAT WE ACTUALLY WANTED E DIFFERENT USES IN HERE SO WE'REO DELETE THAT OUT TO ELIMINATE CO.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PERMISSIBLEN PAGE 3 IS ALL WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND SO THEN AGAIN ONE LAST LOOKR SITE PLAN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF T TO IT, AND THAT'S REALLY IT FORY PRESENTATION.

I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME PUBLIC COO I'LL RESERVE THE REST OF MY COMR REBUTTAL.

I'VE GOT SOME ADDITIONAL SLIDESL WITH AT THAT TIME. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

>> THANK YOU. >> SHORT AND SWEET. ALL RIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND WE'VE GOT A FAIR AF PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS. >> YES.

>> LET'S DO THE IN-HOUSE PUBLICG FIRST AND THEN I UNDERSTAND WE'T SOME QUEUED UP HERE ON THE PHON.

>> I'LL CALL EACH OF UP BY NAME. PLEASE TELL US YOUR ADDRESS ANDL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

ATTORNEY RON AUSTIN. SIR. >>?

RICHARD WEEK BE CAN , CAN . >> MR. CHAIR I'M RON AUSTIN ATTY FROM JACKSONVILLE.

MY OFFICE ADDRESS IS 1354 NORTHA STREET. I'VE BEEN RETAINED BY SOME OF TE HOMEOWNERS OF OF THE KING ANDR SUBDIVISION WORLD GOLF VILLAGE. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CHAIRMAU CAN EXERCISE SOME DISCRETION TOE LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES TO REN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROPOSED PUD.

>> WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR LEGALT ON THAT. >> SURE.

IT IS A THE CHAIR'S DISCRETION. I THINK IF THE AGENCY IS TO BE D AND IF THERE IS PERTINENT INFOR,

THE CHAIR MAKES THAT. >> LET'S CAP IT AT TEN MINUTES . >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. AS I INDICATED, I'VE BEEN RETAIO REPRESENT SOME OF THE OWNERS OFG AND THE BEAR SUBDIVISION IN OPPN TO THIS PROPOSED REZONING REQUE. THESE HOMEOWNERS HAVE HOMES IN A THAT WOULD BE ABUTTING THIS PRON AS CLOSE AS 300 FEET. FOLLOWING ME WILL BE MR. MOODY,N MOODY. HE'S A LICENSED APPRAISER THAT E ALSO ENGAGED TO HELP PARTICIPATS PRESENTATION. I'VE KNOWN MR. MOODY FOR 25 YEA. HE'S BEEN ON THIS SAME SIDE OF N SOME CASES IN EMINENT DOMAIN ANN OTHER CASES ON THE OPPOSITE SID. I'M HAPPY TO KNOW HE'S ON OUR SE TODAY. I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR 25 YEARS. I'VE BEEN TOLD HE'S BEEN A AN PR FOR 25 YEARS BEFORE THAT. MIGHT BE STRETCHING IT A LITTLE. BUT HE HAS PREPARED A DAMAGE AST

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AND WHAT IS MEANT BY IN NEAR PRY TO BECAUSE 2,000 FEET, 1 HOW SPT IS NOT THE SAME AS 100 FEET WHIS WHAT THE NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR S PROPERTY HOME VALUES AND QUALITF LIFE.

>> MR. AUSTIN, IF I CAN INTERJET FOR A MOMENT. I THINK THAT THE AGENCY HAS A CF YOUR LETTER AND MR. FOOD MOODY'S ANALYSIS. IF THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIS NOT SEEN THIS -- I DON'T KNOW TE HAS -- I'D LIKE ON JUST PROVIDEA COPY THAT HE CAN LOOK THROUGH DG

YOUR COMMENTS. >> OKAY. >> MR. MCCORMICK, I'LL PUT IT OE RECORD WE WERE PROVIDED BY STAFA COPY OF MR. AUSTIN'S LETTER, ANI BELIEVE MR. MOODY'S FOUR OR FIVE

REPORT THAT WAS ATTACHED TO IT. >> THANK YOU. MR. AUSTIN SHOULD HAVE THAT EXT5

SECONDS BACK. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT MRY DID PROVIDE IN ADVANCE THAT ASS. I APOLOGIZE TO MR. BURNETT FOR E GETTING THAT TO HIM IN REALTIME.

THAT WAS AN OVERSIGHT ON MY PAR. BUT GETTING BACK TO MY POINT, TT THAT YOUR STAFF HAS DETERMINED T THERE ARE NUMEROUS OTHER STORAGE FACILITIES INCLUDING RV STORAGE FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTO THE HEART OF DECISION THAT YOU T MAKE IN THIS MATTER. IN ITS APPLICATION, IN ITS APPL APPLICATION -- LET ME GO BACK OP FURTHER. THE STAFF HAS COME UP WITH TEN S OF FACT TO SUPPORT A DEFINITELYS RECOMMENDATION. IF THERE'S NOT BEEN A DEMONSTRAD DEFICIENCY OR NEED FOR THIS PARR PROPOSED PROJECT, THAT SHOULD BE 11TH FINDING OF FACT IN SUPPORTF DENIAL. YOUR SECTION A1 -- .139 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPEAKS TO THD I'LL JUST READ SUBPARAGRAPH C OT SECTION THAT STATES THAT ONE OFE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY MUST CONN EVALUATING THIS REZONING REQUEST THERE IS A DEMONSTRATE DEFIBRILR SUFFICIENT OTHER AVAILABLE LAND, DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL TO ACCOMME PROPOSED COMMERCIAL USE AND WHER THE APPLICANT HAS DEMONSTRATED A NEED EXISTS FOR THE PROPOSED COL DEVELOPMENT BASED ON THE SIZE, D POPULATION OF THE AREA BEING SE.

THE APPLICANT HAS THE BURDEN TOE THESE THINGS. THEY HAVE NOT SHOWN ANY FACTS OA WHICH WOULD REMOTELY DEMONSTRATT THERE'S A DEFICIENCY OF OTHER AE COMMERCIAL LAND FOR THIS PROPOS.

THEY HAVE NOT OFFERED ANY FACTSA WHICH REMOTELY DEMONSTRATES THAA PROPOSED BOAT AND STORAGE FACILS NEEDED IN THIS PARTICULAR RESIDL NEIGHBORHOOD. NOW, LESS THAN A MILE FROM KINGE BEAR U-HAUL AND MILL CREEK HAS CONSTRUCTED A FACILITY THAT WILE 1,000 STORAGE UNITS, SELF-STORA, AND BY NEXT YEAR TELL CONDUCT A THREE-STORY BUILDING OF 100,000E FEET THAT WILL HAVE PROFESSIONA, PROPANE, OTHER THINGS, INCLUDINT STORAGE FACILITY. SO AGAINST THIS BACKDROP IT'S DT TO SEE HOW THIS APPLICANT CAN ST THERE'S A DEMONSTRATED NEED FORA DEMONSTRATED DEFICIENCY FOR THED BOAT STORAGE. AND BEFORE TOO LONG, THIS RESIDL AREA WILL BE SATURATED WITH THOS OF USES. AND IF THERE ARE OTHER NUMEROUS, INCLUDING BOAT STORAGE FACILITIV FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTN THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHY IS THE NEEDED 300 FEET FROM OUR CLIENTS IN THE KING AND THE BEAR AND LEN HALF A MILE FROM THE U-HAUL THAG BUILT DOWN THE STREET.

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AND IT FURTHER REQUIRES THAT A G REQUEST, REZONING REQUEST MAY BE APPROVED ONLY UPON DETERMINATIOT THE APPLICATION AND THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED ESTABLISH THAT ALL THE PROPOSED PERMITTED USE ARE COMPE WITH PERFORMING LAND USES ON ADT PROPERTIES, AND WE SUBMIT THAT Y CAN'T SHOW THIS, THEY HAVEN'T DEMONSTRATED THIS, AND I THINK E FACE OF IT THAT IS QUITE CLEAR. THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THIS PROPD STORAGE FACILITY WILL HAVE HIGHD FLOODLIGHTING TO DETER CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, AND THAT'S A PRUDENT , BUT THAT SHEDS LIGHT ON THE LACF COMPATIBILITY WITH THE HOMEOWNER RESIDENTS THAT ABUT THIS PROPERF IT'S -- IF THAT PROPOSED USE ISD OUT. SO YOU HAVE THE KING AND THE BER SUBDIVISION ON THE ONE HAND, WHN UPSCALE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND NOW YE THIS BOAT AND RV STORAGE PROPERT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. I DON'T THINK THE SECTIONS AND S SUPPORT THAT THAT IS BEING A COE USE AND COMMON SENSE TELLS US TT 300 FEET FROM THE KING AND THE R WOULD NOT BE COMPATIBLE.

IN CONCLUSION, I WOULD NOTE THAE STAFF HAS PREPARED A PROPOSED OE OTHER HAND THAT IF YOU VOTE TO E ZONING REQUEST, THE REZONING RE& SEVERAL FINDINGS THAT YOU WOULDE ADOPTING IF YOU WERE TO VOTE TOE

THAT ZONING REQUEST, WHICH WOULN BECOME LAW. >> RIGHT.

MR. AUSTIN, JUST TO CLARIFY, THY CAN APPROVE VARIANCES AND SU:PSR REZONINGS.

THIS AGENCY MAKES A RECOMMENDATO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONED THEY WILL AT A SUBSEQUENT HEARIG

DECIDE. >> I UNDERSTAND. ONE OF THE THINGS, THE COMMISSID HAVE TO DECIDE IS WHETHER THE PD WAS WITH THE GOALS AND PLANS. CONSISTENT WITH.

THIS APPLICATION DOES NOT MEET T POLICY. IT'S INCONSISTENT.

AND AS TO ITEM 3 ON THAT LIST TM REFERENCING, TODAY YOU WOULD HAO VOTE TO THE EFFECT THAT THE PROD IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTUD USE DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL . YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE TO VOTE THAE PUD, PROPOSED PUD IS NOT CONSISH YOUR POLICY 8.1.311 AS IT RELATO COMPATIBILITY OF THE PROJECT OFE SURROUNDING AREA. AND YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE TO VOTEO ITEM 6, 8 AND 9 ON THAT PROPOSET THAT THE PUD, THE PROPOSED PUD T MEAD THE ABOUT YOU DOESN'T OF PT 5.03.02 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENTD IT DOES NOT PROMOTE THE THE OF E ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND IT DOES NOE AN EFFICIENT DEVELOPMENT AND COMPATIBILITY REQUIRED BY YOUR . FINALLY, THE MEMBERS OF THE KIND BEAR HAVE PREPARED A PORTFOLIO.

THE RESIDENTS HAVE PREPARED SOME INFORMATION THAT I WOULD LIKE TD OUT TO EACH OF YOU THAT CONTAINS OF SOME OF THE HOMES THAT WOULDE AFFECTED, CRIME REPORTS ABOUT WT HAPPENS --

>> MR. AUSTIN, AS SOME OF THE AY MEMBERS ARE APPEARING REMOTELY,T LITTLE TABLE, IF YOU POP DOWN YN PUT THOSE UP ON THE OVERHEAD VEY QUICKLY AND OUR AGENCY MEMBERS G CAN SEE THOSE.

>> THIS IS A SMALL COMPILATION E OF THE MEMBERS WHO WOULD BE SPEG HERE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT BUT Y PREPARED A PACKAGE IN OPPOSITIOS PROPOSED PUD, THIS REZONING REQ. IT CONTAINS PHOTOS OF SOME OF TR

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EACH ONE OF THE MEMBERS. I WILL JUST LEAVE IT RIGHT HERE. >> RIGHT.

AND IF MR. BURNETT WOULD GET A S WELL. THANK YOU.

>> MR. MOODY, WE'RE GOING TO GIU ARE FIVE MINUTES. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PRAISE STAFF.

THEY DO A GREAT JOB, WE KNOW. >> MY NAME IS RON MOODY. I'M GOING TO GO FAST.

I HAD 15 MINUTES SO LET ME CONDT GREATLY. I'VE BEEN APPRAISINGS PROPERTY 7 YEARS. I HAVE A BACKGROUND IN RESIDENT, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL.

WE DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT APPRAI, COMPLU CATED APPRAISALS. WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO IS TR AN OPINION AND ASK THE QUESTIONS THE EFFECT ON NEARBY CTS PROPERN IN FACT THE EDMONDS FAMILY PARTP BOAT AND RV STORAGE IS APPROVEDI A DAMAGE STUDY. AND AS I DID THE DAMAGE STUDY, E START REAL QUICKLY WITH AN EXHIT TALKS ABOUT -- I'M GOING TO PUTT ON THE FROWNT HERE -- IT TALKS E PRINCIPLE OF CONFORMITY AND WHEU TALK ABOUT THE PRINCIPLE OF CONY THIS IS JUST APPRAISAL THEOLOGYT INDICATES THAT PROPERTY VALUES E OPERATE PAL MAL AND MAXIMIZED WA PROPERTY GENERALLY CONFORM TO TE SURROUNDING PROPERTY AND ARE NEY IMPACTED WHEN THE PROPERTY DOES. NOW, THIS APPLIES GENERALLY TO L ESTATE, AND AS YOU LOOK AT THE P PORTION OF THE EXHIBIT, YOU SEEE THE LOWER LEVEL BUILDING AND THU HAVE THE ONE LARGE BUILDING IN E MIDDLE, AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, Y VALUE IS NEGATIVELY IMPACT BECAF THE NON-CONFORMITY. NOW, CONVERSELY, ON THE LOWER PF THE EXHIBIT, IF YOU HAVE PROPERT ARE SIMILAR, SAME TYPE OF PROPE, SAME ORIENTATION, IT TENDS TO OE VALUE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF A VERY IMPORTT PRINCIPLE AS WE LOOK TO SEE WHAG TO BE DONE ON THE ADJACENT PROP.

THE OTHER COMPETITION FOR RV, BT STORAGE AND RV FACILITIES AND BT STORAGE ARE THERE.

I ANALYZED SEVEN PROPERTIES THAE NEARBY THEY WERE COMPETITIVE. GENERALLY WHAT I FOUND IS THEY E LOCATED AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. INSTEAD THEY WERE LOCATED IN MOE COMMERCIALLY INTENSE DEVELOPMEND PERHAPS EVEN ON THE CORNER. WE MENTIONED THE U-HAUL FACILITS A HALF A MILE WEAPON IT'S PROPOT IT'S AT THE CORNER OF STATE ROAD 16A.

AND GENERALLY WHAT I ALSO FOUNDT SIGNIFICANT BUFFERS HAVE IN FACN PUT IN PLACE.

SOME OF THOSE BUFFERS WOULD ACTY INCLUDE A HIGHWAY. MAYBE YOU WOULD HAVE A RV FACILN THE OR NOT SPAFORT THE HIGHWAY E HIGHWAY WOULD SERVE AS A BUFFERE OTHER USE, PERHAPS RESIDENTIAL,E ON THE NORTH BOUNDARY. I WOULD ALSO FIND THAT RESIDENTR RECREATIONAL USES HAVE PROVIDEDR BETWEEN RV USES AND BOAT STORAGS AND EVEN INDUSTRIAL USES THAT SS A BUFFER, ABOUT IT FOUND THAT TE PRETTY COMMON. ANOTHER THING I NOTICED WAS THAE TYPICAL RV STORAGE FACILITY AT N DIFFERENT PROPERTIES THAT I LOO, THEY CHANGED IN SIZE FROM 40 TOD 150 SPACES.

NOW, THE PLANS THAT I SAW FOR TE EDMONDS PROJECT WAS THAT ON PHA1 THERE WERE GOING TO BE 400 PLUSS AND PHASE 2 THERE WAS GOING TO E ANOTHER 120. SO THAT WAS 520 SPACES, WHICH IY SIGNIFICANT. OKAY. LET ME QUICKLY TALK ABOUT DETRIL

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HAVE MUCH TIME. >> MR. MOODY, YOU HAVE ABOUT A T THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.

>> GOOD. I WOULD APPRECIATE A LITTLE EXT. ON HECKSHIRE DRIVE IN JACKSONVIF YOU'VE EVER GONE FROM JACKSONVIO THE FERNANDINA AREA ALONG HECKSE DRIVE, IT'S A LOVELY DRIVE, WHAU WILL FIND THERE IS THAT THE HOMT WERE ORIGINALLY BUILT IN THE 40D '50S AND '60S, THEY WERE CONCREE BLOCK UNITS AND A LOT OF THOSE N TORNADO DOWN, AND WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IS THEY'VE BEEN BUILDY LARGE HOMES. I CALL THEM THE MEGA MANSIONS. BUT THAT'S BEEN KIND OF A COMMOG THAT HAS HAPPENED. ITEM SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF A TYA TYPICAL ONE ON HECKSHIRE DRIVE,D RIGHT IN THIS SAME AREA I'M GOIO SHOW YOU THE SECOND PICTURE, ANL NOTICE THAT THE RED ROOF WAS THE OF THE HOUSE THAT I FIRST SHOWE. SO ALONG THIS HECKSHIRE DRIVE YE THE AREA THAT'S SHADED IN YELLO.

WELL, I HAD A CLIENT THAT I WASG FOR. HE BOUGHT THAT SITE IN --

>> YOU HAVE 60 MORE SECONDS. >> HE BOUGHT THAT SITE IN 2005 R $575,000.

THE CITY SHORTLY THEREAFTER, ANL SEE THE GREEN AREA, THE CITY DEO REZONE THAT SITE AND THEY PUT AE STATION THERE. MR. SMITH TRIED TO FIGHT IT. HE COULDN'T FIGHT IT.

SO HE LOST HIS BATTLE AND THEY P PUTTING THE FACILITY THERE. WELL, THIS IS WHAT THEY PUT.

THEY PUT A FIRE STATION. IT'S A BIG COMMERCIAL FIRE STAT. IT'S 40 FEET HIGH AND IT THEN HA DRAMATIC IMPACT ON THE VALUE OFS LAND. SO BACK TO THE AREA SHADED IN Y, MR. SMITH DECIDED HE WAS NOT GOO BUILD HIS BIG HOUSE. HE LATER HAD TO SELL IT.

WHEN HE SOLD IT -- NOW, IT WAS N QUEERS AFTER HE BATE, BATE FOR - HE HAD TO SILT FOR $310,000.

THAT'S A 45% LOSS THAT HE TOOK,A DIMINUTION IN VALUE. AND IT WAS DIRECTLY RELATED TO E INCONSISTENT USE THAT OCCURRED T DOOR. AND SO WHAT I'M GOING TO REMINDF IS THAT VALUES ARE MAXIMIZED WHE PROPERTIES CONFORM, AND IN MY O, MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, THIS PR USE IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATIONT TO THE EXING AND THE BEAR FACILS NOT A CONSISTENT USE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOINGO CONFORM AND IT WILL ABSOLUTELY N EFFECT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTI.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> MR. MOODY, IF YOU WOULD SUBME

DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD OVER . >> YES. >> NEXT, ARCHIE.

>> THE NEXT SPEAKER MR. MIKE WI. GIVE US YOUR NAME OR YOUR ADDRE. >> GARCH.

MY NAME IS MIKE WILLIAMS. I'M A LICENSED REAL ESTATE BROK. I ALSO SERVE IT ON BOARD OF DIRR THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA ASSOCIATIF REALTORS. MY ADDRESS IS 815 CREEKWOOD DRI, FLORIDA 32174. I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THE INCREASE ABILITY ISSUES FOR PROPERTY OWNN THE KING AND THE BEAR AND SPECIY ON THE STREETS DIRECTLY AFFECTEE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE AND THE V STORAGE PROJECT. THAT IS AND PAUL COURT. IT HAS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE T FOR SELLERS TO PROCEED PROCR THESE CIRCUMSTANCES. PLEASE ALLOW ME TO SHARE SOME MT STATISTICS. ACROSS NORTHEAST FLORIDA WE HAVN THE MEDIAN SALES INCREASE OVER .

DAYS ON MARKET HAVE BEEN HAVE HE INCREASED 9% TO 70 DAYS ON AVER. ABSORPTION RATE OR MONTH SUPPLYF INVENTORY IS UNDER THREE MONTHSE LOWEST I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY CAR. WE WOULD NEED SIX MONTHS TO BE A BALANCED MARKET. ST. JOHNS IS 84 DAYS ON MARKET. KING AND THE BEAR IS 81 DAYS ON.

AND PROPERTIES AT $500,000 TO $N AVERAGE 93 DAYS ON MARKET. THE KING AND THE BEAR OVER THE X MONTHS, THE HOME SALES HAVE AVED $641,000, $192 PER SQUARE FOOT 5 DAYS ON MARKET.

THE REASON I SHARE THESE IS TO S THAT WE HAVE LOW INVENTORY. IF YOU'RE IN A GOOD SCHOOL DISTH

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AND THERE'S THREE REASONS FOR T. NOISE POLLUTION. BUYERS IMAGINE THAT RV AND BOATL START THEIR DAY BEFORE SUNRISE. LIGHT POLLUTION. THE BUYERS BELIEVE THAT A BOAT V

STORAGE FACILITY -- >> MR. WILLIAMS 1 YOU HAVE 30 S. >> WILL HAVE TALL LIGHTS THAT WL ENCROACH ON THEIR PRIVATE PROPED THEIR BACKYARDS. AND THE TRAFFIC POLLUTION.

YOUR AVERAGE AV IS 33 FEET LONGA CLAVMENT ARV, AND I COULDN'T IME WHAT THE CONGESTION WOULD LOOK E THERE. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU>> NEXT SPREARK, . IF YOU'LL REPEAT YOUR NAME AND S FOR US AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUT.

>> HI THERE. I'M AMY ANDERSONS AND I LIVE ATI EVER ARE ZONE ROAD IN A NEIGHBOD ADJACENT TO THIS AREA THAT WE'RG ABOUT TODAY AND I ALSO HAVE A RL ESTATE BROKERAGE AT 280 BUSINESK CIRCLE NUMBER 409, ST. AUGUSTINA 32095. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS IN TWO DIFFERENT WEIGHS WAYS, TWO DIFFT LIGHTS. THE FIRST IS THAT WE HAVE BEEN G QUITE A BIT ABOUT ABOUT THIS MAT X, YZ. MAY BE AN IMPACT DOWN TO ROAD IS PASSED. I WANT TO TELL YOU ON TWO SEPARE OCCASIONS WANTS TWHANTS A MAY BT WILL THE OPEN JUNE 2 WE PUT A HN THE MARKET AT $616,000 ON DENYH. I HAD THREE SHOWINGS IMMEDIATELI HAD ONE COUPLE COME IN AND THE T COMMUNICATED WITH ME ON TWO SEPE OCCASIONS THAT THEY DID NOT -- Y TBLOT GOING TO MAKE AN OFFER SIY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WG TO HAPPEN AT THE MEETING THAT WS SCHEDULED FOR THE ORIGINAL MEETT WAS SCHEDULED FOR THIS MATTER. ON THE 10TH WE HAD A FAMILY COMO TOWN THAT MADE AN OFFER ON THE Y AND WENT UNDER CONTRACT ON THE , JUNE 10TH.

SO WE CAME VERY CLOSE TO LIST P. WE WENT THROUGH THE INSPECTION . I WAS INFORMED KIND OF UNHAPPILY INFORMED ON THE 29TH BY MIKE WIS THAT WHAT WAS HAPPENING HERE ANT WAS BEING DISCUSSED ABOUT THE PL FUTURE OF THE PROPERTY BACKING E PROPERTY I HAD FOR SALE, SO IN N ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION WE NOTIFIEE BUYERS THAT THIS WAS A POTENTIAE FOR ZONING, AND THEY IMMEDIATELY CANCELED THE CONTRACT.

I WAS NOTIFIED ON THE 29TH. THEY CANCELED THE CONTRACT ON T. THEY STOOD TO LOSE A $10,000 BIR DEPOSIT BECAUSE WE WERE PAST OUR INSPECTION PERIOD. THEY STOOD TO LOSE THE MONEY THY HAD PAID FOR APPRAISAL THAT HADY BEEN COMPLETED AND THE INSPECTIO THEY STOOD TO LOSE ABOUT $12,00G WITH THE DUE DILIGENCE AND THE E PERIOD THAT THEY HAD PUT INTO INVESTIGATING IF THIS PROPERTY R THEM OR NOT. SO IT'S NOT A -- IT MAY POSSIBLT THE VALUE.

IT IS ALSO -- I MEAN IT'S BEEN N THAT WE LOST A BUYER FOR THAT. WE DID ACTUALLY SOMEHOW GET THAT CONTRACT BACK TOGETHER. IT IS SUPPOSED TO CLOSE TOMORROT THAT IS GOING TO BE BASED ON WHT HAPPENS HERE TODAY. SO I AM ASKING YOU VERY MUCH ASA BUSINESS OWNER AND SOMEBODY WHOS QUITE A BIT OF BUSINESS WITHIN D BEAR TO NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEE IT'S GOING TO IMPACT, DIRECTLY T THE 13 HOMEOWNERS THAT BACK TO S PIECE OF PROPERTY BUT IT'S ALSOO IMPACT THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STM THEM WHO ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABO HAVE AN APPRAISER COME IN AND JA $100,000 DIFFERENT BETWEEN HOMES A 12-FOOT RESIDENTIAL STREET. SO THAT'S ON ONE HAND. AND VERY QUICKLY IN THE 20 SECOI HAVE LEFT I'M ALSO A MOTHER WHOS THREE CHILDREN. TWO KIDS GO TO THE ELEMENTARY SL THAT WILL ABUT THIS PROPERTY, AA MOTHER WITH CHILDREN IN THAT ELY SCHOOL, I DO NOT WANT THEM GOINO RECESS NEXT TO A BOAT STORAGE UT FACILITY. I'VE SEEN THEM IN OTHER AREAS OE COUNTY AND OTHER AREAS OF THE FA AND IT'S NOT, IN MY OPINION IT T FOLLOW THE CONFORMITY THAT YOU E

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LOOKING FOR IN THAT ZONING CHAN. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> IN CHAIR, I JUST WOULD LIKE D I THINK THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLS IS THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGEN.

IT IS ALSO THE COUNTY'S LAND PLG AGENCY FOR EACH ITEM IT FINDS AM EITHER IN COMPLIANCE OR NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIN FOR REZONINGS, PUDS. IT MAKES A RECOMMENDATION FOR AL OR RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL. HOWEVER, ULTIMATELY THE BOARD OY COMMISSIONERS WOULD MAKE THAT FL

DECISION AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETIN. THANK YOU. >> NEXT.

>> MR. JIM DAVIS. SIR, IF YOU WILL REPEAT YOUR NAD GIVE YOURS DPREAS ADDRESS.

>> MY NAME IS JIMMY ADDRESS I HE AT 3410 DEN STREET WHICH IS A LE FARTHER DOWN THAN THE 13 HOUSESE BEING TALKED ABOUT. THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE ON MON THOSE 13 HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN D BECAUSE ALL OF US ARE GOING TO R FROM A PROBLEM WITH COMPS WHEN T READY TO SELL OUR HOMES.

I HAVE LIVED IN THAT PLACE FOR O AND A HALF YEARS AND I'M HERE TL YOU TODAY HAD AN RV STORAGE PLAN IN POSITION WHEN I WAS LOOKING I WOULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT IN THE KID BEAR.

MY WIFE IS NOW TALKING ABOUT WAO MOVE IF IT IS PUT IN OR INSTALL, GENTLEMEN AND LADIES, I'M A RETY OFFICER. I'VE MOVED ENOUGH. I DON'T NEED TO MOVE ANY MORE.

I'M WHERE I AM. I LOVE IT THERE. AND I'D LIKE TO STAY THERE, BUTI PROBABLY AM GOING TO BE FORCED E IF YOU PUT IN THIS APPROVE OR RD THIS STORAGE FACILITY BE APPROVD SECONDLY I'D LIKE TO BUILD ON AE THE LADY JUST MENTIONED, AND THE SCHOOL.

I KNOW WE BALKED INCOMPATIBILITT IMAGINE ANYTHING THAT IS MUCH ME INCOMPATIBLE HAD AN AN RV STORAE FACILITY AND AN ELEMENTARY SCHO. I HAVE VISIONS OF EVERY PEDOPHIY CHILD TRAFFICKER, EVERY OTHER PN THE WORLD SITTING IN THEIR RVS S FACILITY STARING OVER AT THAT S. NOW, THAT MAY BE A LITTLE FAR-FD BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S UNREAL. I THINK IT CERTAINLY IS A FEASIE PROBLEM.

THE OTHER THING IS I AM VERY COD ABOUT THE HIGHLIGHTING, AND I'MD THE SECURITY, AND IF IN FACT YOO DECIDE TO RECOMMEND THIS, I HOPU WOULD LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN TO E THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN EVERY EFFOO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND THE ISOLAF THE COMMUNITY. OUR ATTORNEY MENTIONED SOMETHINA 300 FEET FROM THE KING AND BEAR. AS I UNDERSTOOD THE LAYOUT, WE'E 40 FEET FROM WHERE THE FIRST RVG TO BE STORED FROM THE EDGE OF TG AND BEAR PROPER. THAT 50-FOOT BUFFER THAT WE HAVE PROPERTY AND THEN 40 FEET THAT E GIVING UP, THAT'S THE ONLY BUFFT WE HAVE.

BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ALF THIS. I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC C.

I DIDN'T SEE A GOOD PLAN THERE,W THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BACK UP TRN STATE ROAD 16 AS THEY'RE MAKINGT TURN. A SOLID 10-FOOTAL HIGH WALL ALLD THE PERIMETER MAYBE IF YOU DO AE THIS FOR ADDITIONAL SECURITY, DIRECTIONAL LIGHTING AND A VERY INTRICATE DRIVEWAY COMING IN SOT ANYBODY TURNING INTO THE FACILID BE WELL OFF OF STATE ROAD 16. AGAIN, I'D RECOMMEND THAT YOU D- I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU DO NOT RECOMMEND THAT THIS GO FORWARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU>> MR. DYELAN. RIGG DON? RR-I-G-D-O-N.

I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU, SIR. >> HE'S NOT HERE. >> HE HAD TO LEAVE.

>> HAD TO LEAVE. BOTTOM LINE. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

THANK YOU. MR. TOM H AVERAGES-I-N-E. F-A-I-N-E.

SIR, IF YOU WILL GIVE US YOUR DD HELP ME WITH YOUR LAST NAME. >> IT'S IRISH SO IT'S TOM OF ALL INFA-L-L-I-N I LIVE AT 1909 SOLE COURT ALSO ON THE IN THE KUNG AR COMMUNITY.

I AM NOT ON DEN STREET BUT UM AT IN THE EXING AND THE BEAR. AS MR. MOODY JUST DISCUSSED, I K THIS WOULD IMPACT OUR IR INTOO COMMUNITY, AND I THINK IT'S REFY NUMBER OF SIGNATURES THAT YOU RD

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I THINK THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE BOARD SHOWS THAA FAIRLY NEARBY FACILITY THAT DOER SERVICE WAS ACTUALLY BROKEN INTF COURSE, A LOT OF THE VERY EXPENE ELECTRONIC DEVICES THAT ARE STON THOSE TYPE OF OPERATIONS, OF CO, MAKES IT A VERY MUCH ATTRACTIVEO CRIME.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE PROBLET IS TO OFFSET THE CRIME, YOU HAVO SECURITY PROCEDURES THAT, OF COE FOCUSED EX TEAR I DO NOT RECALLO I GUESS A BIG BASED UPON THAT CE ANALYSIS THERE'S ALSO A PROBLEMH CRIME INTERIOR TO THE RESIDENTSE THAT FILT FACILITY BECAUSE, OF , THEY'RE LOOKING TO UPGRADE THEI& ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT. I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD CONR THIS I DID SANDY AERIAL SNIPPET I THT I SHARED WITH EACH ONE OF THE IL BOARD MEMBERS THAT SHOWED THE EG ADJACENT USE AROUND THE PROPOSED LOCATION AND CONTRASTED THAT WIE EXISTING RV STORAGE THAT IS LOCD RIGHT AROUND THE STATE ROAD 16H5 AREA. THE THING THAT I WAS NOT AWARE L I WAS DRIVING HERE TODAY IS THES ANOTHER RV STORAGE AREA BEFORE N GET TO THE OUTLET MALL IF YOU CN SKATE ROAD 16, AND THEN, OF COUI DROVE BY THAT THERE WERE THREE E CARS AT THAT LOCATION ON MY WAYE TODAY. SO IN SUMMARY, I WOULD ASK THATE BOARD CONSIDER THAT IT IS NOT CE WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. IT WOULD BRING DELETERIOUS EFFEN THE EXISTING USES ON RESIDENTS D BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN ST. JOHNY TO INCLUDE THE SCHOOL. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONSS

FOR DENIAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

>> MR. CHAIR, I WOULD JUST ASK E AERIAL, I THINK MR. FALLON REFE, DO THE AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE THAT? I WAS JUST TRYING TO FLIP THROUE PACKAGE. I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE THAT.

>> I HAD PROVIDED TO EACH ONE OE BOARD MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY WITHN EMAIL, SIR.

>> OKAY. >> TO INCLUDE THE STAFF AT THE . >> I HAVE NOT SEEN IT.

>> I THINK IT WAS INCLUDED IN TF I HAD PROVIDED IT TO MR. JACOB . >> OKAY.

IF STAFF POSSIBLY HAS A COPY OFT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO PUT IT UP S- >> YES, SIR.

IT'S TWO AERIAL IMAGES CONTAINEN AN EMAIL THAT I HAD SENT TO MR.. I THINK IT'S PERHAPS BEFORE THE

PETITION. >> IS THIS IT? >> YES, SIR.

>> WE'VE GOT IT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

ARCHIE, ANY MORE? ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO OUR YONL ONLINE FOL.

>> ARE YOU THERE? IS IF. >> HELLO? WE'RE GOING ONLINE FOR OUR CALL. OUR CALLER. GIVE JUST A MINUTE.

HELLO? >> HELLO. >> HI.

YOU HAVE GOT THREE MINUTES IF YE TO SPEAK OUT ON THIS ITEM. >> RIGHT, OKAY.

HI. MY NAME IS FRANK. I LIVE AT 2702 CROWN DRIVE, ANDS IN THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE. A LOT OF MY CONCERNS HAVE OBVION SPOKEN OF BEAU PEOPLE WHO SHAREE OR WORRY ABOUT THIS BEING -- THG GIVEN PERMISSIONONE THING THAT S THAT WITH COVID AND EVERYTHING,S NOW A LARGER PORTION OF AMERICAY THAT'S GOING TO BE LOOKING TO RS AND SO ON SO THAT MEANS THERE'SO BE MORE TRAFFIC THERE, AND MORE, IT BECOMES A NUMBERS GAME AND NA GOOD WAY.

SO WITH THAT IN MIND, THAT'S JUI WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO EVERYTHING. I YIELD MY TIME.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE? >> HELLO? HELLO.

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>> IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON TH, WE'LL GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU.

HI. MY NAME IS CHRISTINA GALLAGHER. I RESIDE AT 2513 BEAR PAW COURT.

I AM ONE OF THE HOMEOWNERS THATS NEXT TO THE LAND THAT YOU'RE REG TO BE REZONED, AND WE ARE VERY D ABOUT THAT HAPPENING. I WILL TELL YOU THAT MY MAIN CON REALLY IS THE SAFETY OF OUR FAMD PROPERTY. ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DID O THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS BECAUSE WEE THREE CHILDREN AND WE REALLY WAO HAVE A COMMUNITY WHERE THEY COUO OUTSIDE, THEY COULD RIDE THEIR E WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. AND IT'S REALLY FOR THE SAFETY,? SO FOR THE MOST PART WE HAVE EXD THAT. WE DO LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT EVEN DESPITE THE SECURITY TE HAVE HERE, I KNOW ONE OF THE PED MENTIONED IT WAS HARD TO GET INE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT IS HARD IF YOUE DRIVING IN BUT IT'S NOT HARD IFE WALKING IN, AND WE'RE ON THAT C, AND SINCE WE'VE BEEN THERE, EVET ANY BUSINESSES SURROUNDING US, D THREE INSTANCES OF PEOPLE ACTUAY STEALING FROM OUR PROPERTY. TWO WERE IN THE MIL OF THE DAY E KIND OF JUST ASSUMED A PERSON HD IN FROM OVER THE ROAD INTO OUR , ENTERED OUR GARAGE AND STOLE IT. LAST YEAR WE HAD SOMEBODY COME E MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, THEY SMASHR WINDOWS IN AND TOOK STUFF FROM . THE POLICE OFFICER THAT WAS ON E REPORT SAID THAT THIS TYPE OF AY HAS INCREASED WITH MORE PEOPLE D HIGHER TRAFFIC IN THE THE AREA,E THOUGHT OF HAVING PEOPLE COME IT BEHIND MY HOUSE, HUNDREDS OF THS VERY SCARY.

SO I KNOW THIS CAN HAPPEN IN MAY DIFFERENT AREAS, BUT WE ARE REAY WORRIED ABOUT IT.

WE WANT A HOUSE AND A HOME WHERN FEEL SAFE WITH OUR KIDS AND OUR, AND THAT'S WHY WE DID PURCHASE O I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER TS YOUR MAKING YOUR RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> WHO IS UP NEXT? >> HELLO, YOU'RE ON.

>> HELLO? >> HELLO, YOU'RE ON. YOU CAN TURN YOUR VOLUME DOWN.

MA'AM, CAN YOU HEAR ME? MA'AM, IF YOU COULD TURN YOUR VE DOWN IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON S TOPIC, WE'LL GIVE YOU THREE MIN. HELLO? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK?

>> YES. >> PLEASE GO FORWARD, PLEASE. >> PLEASE TELL US YOUR NAME.

AND ADDRESS. >> NAME AND ADDRESS. >> MY NAME IS DEEING A A BRIGHTI LIVE AT 3613 KINGDOM WAY, ST. A. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD OE ZONING AND PLANNING TO NOT RECOO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPROVAL S DEVELOPMENT. FOR PREVIOUS REASONS.

ONE FOR THE DECREASE OF PROPERTS VALUES, TWO, THE NON-CONFORMITYE OVERALLPD, THREE, INCREASED TRAD FOUR, THE POSSIBILITY OF INCREAD CRIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU>> NO MORE PUBLIC C. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE EXHAUSTED PUBLIC COMMENT IN S ROOM? NO. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES IFE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THE GOT FILL OUT A PUBLIC SPEAKER C.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JOSE CHAPA JR. I RESIDE AT 2507 BEAR PAW COURTE KING AND BEAR ST. AUGUSTINE, FLA 32092. WE PURCHASED A HOME ON BEAR PAWE YEARS AGO THIS PAST MAY. WE MOVED HERE FROM TAMPA. I'M ORIGINALLY FROM CHICAGO.

MY FIANCEE FROM UPSTATE NEW YOR. WE MOVED HERE BECAUSE OF AN OPPY FOR EMPLOYMENT, AND WE LOVED THO MUCH WE PURCHASED IN THE KING A. ONE OF THE REASONS WE PURCHASEDE HOUSE AT 2507 BEAR PAW COURT WAS

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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD ASR REALTOR WHEN WE PURCHASED THE HF THE AREA THAT WAS IMMEDIATELY BS BECAUSE IT WAS AN OPEN AREA WASS THERE SOMETHING THAT COULD GO IT AREA.

I WAS TOLD AT THAT TIME THAT ITN RURAL AND THAT IT WOULD HAVE TOO THROUGH A VERY VIGOROUS PROCESSO CHANGE THAT IF THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY SO DESIRED. OBVIOUSLY THAT OWNER IS LOOKINGO CHANGE THAT DESIGNATION, BUT WHM ASKING THE BOARD TO CONSIDER ISE DETRIMENTAL IMPACT THAT THAT TYF BUSINESS WOULD HAVE TO THE PROPS NOT ONLY THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY AT TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION -- 3 LOTS -- BUT OF THE ENTIRE NEIGHD BECAUSE OUR HOME VALUES WOULD VH BE UTILIZED BY OTHER PROSPECTIVS OF HOMES THAT COME FOR SALE IN T NEIGHBORHOOD AS A NEGATIVE. SEC SECONDLY, THE OWNER OF THATE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCIG WITHOUT EVEN HAVING THE STORAGEY THERE, AND THIS WAS DISCUSSED AF THE PREVIOUS PHONE CONVERSATIOND WITH THEIR ATTORNEY AND THE OWNN THIS ALL CAME TO LIGHT ABOUT THM

DESIRING TO PUT THIS FACILITY I. >> SIR, YOU HAVE A FEW SECOND L. >> I UNDERSTANDIN CONCLUSION, TF BOAT AND RV FACILITIES ALREADY E PROXIMITY, PROXIMATE AREA OF THS PRESTIGIOUS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND ID ADVISE THE BOARD OF TO PLEASE, E DENY THIS REQUEST. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> ANY OTHER PUBLIC SPEAKERS INE ROOM? ALL RIGHT. THEN WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

APPLICANT CAN STEP FORWARD AND R ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS OR ADDRE. >> THANK YOU, AGENCY MEMBERS.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TOE BACK UP HERE AND OFFER SOME REB. AS I GO THROUGH MY PRESENTATIONT THE END, KEEP IN MIND THIS ONE PARTICULAR FACT, AND THAT IS IFL WHAT'S COMING IS AWFUL, YOU'RE O ASSUME THAT IT'S AWFUL. BUT IF I DON'T TELL YOU IN THATE SENTENCE THAT WHAT IS ALREADY AS WORSE, POTENTIALLY WORSE, MORE A NUISANCE, MORE OF A PROBLEM, MOE INTENSE, THEN YOU DON'T LOOK ATE PENDING APPLICATION THAT'S BEFOU WITH THE AYE EYE OF SAYING THY A GOOD THING.

AND THE UNFORTUNATE THING OF WHE ARE WITH THE OPPOSITION PHI THIS UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE ARE ASKING FR COMPARED TO WHAT WOULD BE COULDE THIS IS PRETTY GOOD. IN FACT IN MANY WAYS THIS IS GR.

LET ME GO BACK WITH A LITTLE MOE DETAIL. THIS IS THE AERIAL I PUT UP ORI.

IT ZOOMS IN A LITTLE MORE. YOU CAN SEE THAT 50-FOOT AREA BN THE PROJECT AND THE KING AND THR ALONG THIS PROPERTY BOUNDARY WHA SIX FOOT BERM. MANY TIMES IN THIS HALL, IN THIS AUDITORIUM WE HEAR FOLKS COME ID SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE WAS A PRESERVE NEXT TO ME.

AND I KNEW MY REALTOR NEEDLE THD WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE PRESERVEW THEY'RE COMING TO DEVELOP IT.

THIS ISN'T ONE OF THOSE CASES. THIS IS THE CASE WHERE THE LANDT DOOR HAS ACTUALLY BEEN USED IN A COMMERCIAL FASHION MANY TIMES FY YEARS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF D. IT'S A CASE WHERE THE PROPERTY S ALREADY CLEARED. BECAUSE IN OPEN RURALOFF ALL THS THAT ARE ALLOWED, AND THIS FOR Y YEARS HAS BEEN A NURSERY. AND WHAT DO WE KNOW? IF BE ANYBODY HAS BEEN TO THE NY LATELY, IF YOU HAVE LIVED NEAR Y WHICH IHAVE PREVIOUSLY 1 YOU HE, HONK, HONK, HONK EVERY TIME THAE LOADER BACKS UP TO PICK UP A LOF GRAVEL, TO PICK UP A LOAD OF MUD THE THE LIKE, YOU HEAR THE LOADP

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IT MAY NOT CURRENTLY BE THERE BE THE EDMONDS HAD PLANNED TO MOVED WITH THE PROPERTY IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, BUT CURRENTLY AS IT S THERE YOU COULD HAVE THAT WITHOY APPROVAL.

LET'S LOOK AT THE STAFF REPORT . IT SHOWS THE FUTURE LAND USE MA. THERE'S A COUPLE INTERESTING THN THIS FUTURE LAND USE MAP. ONE YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE OUR PAR. TWO, YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE OUR PAL COMPLETELY INGULFED BY A DRI. OKAY? WE'RE KIND OF AN ISLAND SITTINGE MIDDLE OF THIS DRI. THE OTHER THING WHAT'S MISSING S FUTURE LAND USE MAP? IT'S AN INTERESTING THING. WHEN YOU USE THE COUNTY'SI MAP L LET YOU PULL APE BOUNDARY, CHECS EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THAT PARCEE THING THATI MAP DOESN'T HAVE IST DOESN'T HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT ARA BOUNDARY SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CLOSELY AND YOU SAY, OKAY, WHATS MISSING? THE DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY IS MISSING. HITS IT'S THIS LITTLE RED LINE S ALL THE WAY AROUND. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE REAL LE MAP, THE ACTUAL PRINTED VERSION.

THIS IS ONLINE AS WELL BUT IT DT MOVE AROUND AND ALLOW TO YOU SNE GRID FOR YOUR PARCEL AND THE LIT YOU SEE IN THE KEY IT'S GOT DEVT AREAS. WE BLOW THIS UP, WE SEE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AREA IS THIS AREA W& RED LINE ALL THE WAY AROUND IT,F COURSE, THE DRI IS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AREA. OUR PARCEL IS WITHIN THAT. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT RED DEVT AREA BOUNDARY GOING AROUND THE E BIG PARCEL. WHAT'S THAT MEAN? WELL, WHAT THAT MEANS IS WHEN WT ACTUALLY WHERE THE EDMONDS FAMIY PROPERTY IS, IT'S WELL WITHIN TE DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A CLOSER LO, HOW IT IS IN THE DEVELOPMENT ARA BOUNDARY. WHAT'S THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SH DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARIES? IT SAYS DEMENTERS ARE THOSE ORER FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT PREDICE FUTURE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY.

THIS IS WHERE WE WANT GROWTH TO. WHAT ELSE? THE COUNTY SHALL DIRECT TO CONTE DEVELOPMENT AS DESIGNATED ON TH5 FUTURE LAND USE MAP. LET'S TAKE A SECOND LOOK HAT THT LANGUAGE, THOUGH, AT THE VERY B. THE COUNTY SHALL ENCOURAGE URBAD SUBURBAN GROWTH IN DEVELOPMENT S WHERE PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SERS EXIST. AND IT USES "SHALL" WELL, WE KNW THERE'S PUBLIC SERVICES HERE. WE'VE GOT OUR WATER AND SEWER L, DONE OUR PRE-APP WITH FDOT.

NO ISSUES THERE. WE'RE A VERY, VERY LOW TRIP GEN. WE DON'T HAVE ANY DEMAND ON SCH.

SO ALL OF THOSE POSITIVES. THERE'S A -- BACK THIS UP FOR OE SECOND.

THERE'S ACTUALLY A FIRE HIGH DRT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE SITE SE FROM WATER AND SEWER AVAILABILIE KNOW BAWRT IS THERE BECAUSE IT'S PHYSICALLY THERE YOU CAN SEE IT. LET'S ROOK AT THESE USES THIEWR NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESSES AND COML USES THAT YOU FIND ALLOWABLE IN RESIDENTIAL A.

SURE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE ZONIN& IT UP BUT LET'S LOOK GENERAL ONE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THIS ISS IN OUR PUD TEXT. THIS IS A ELECTRONIC THAT WE'REG BUT YOU CAN SEE RETAIL, FINANCI, FUNERAL HOMES, MORE OBITUARIES, GROCERIES, PHARMACIES, BILLBOAR, CHURCHES, VETERINARY OFFICES, FS ET CETERA. THAT'S WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN THIS AR.

WE LOOK AT MR. MOODY'S REPORT, I WANT TO GO BACK TO THIS BECAUSEK IT'S A KEY ISSUE IN ALL OF THIS.

YOU KNOW, WE HEAR FROM A FEW RES TODAY, WE HEAR FROM MR. AUSTIN S ABOUT, HEY, THIS IS INCOMPATIBLD READS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LA. THE LANGUAGE IN THE COMPREHENSIN THAT'S REALLY BEING CITED IS REY RELATED TO HAVING TO SHOW PROOFA NEED. THAT'S NOT -- WE'RE NOT A COMPRE PLAN AMENDED HERE TODAY. AWARE QUASI-JUDICIAL REZONING R. SO I KEY IN ON THAT BECAUSE YOUT WHAT IS INTENDED IN THE COMPREHE PLAN SAYS THIS IS WHAT'S INTENDR THIS AREA.

RESIDENTIAL A, NEIGHBORHOOD BUS, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL USES. HERE'S WHAT THOSE POTENTIALLY A.

THE PROPERTY'S ALREADY OPEN RUR. BUT I WANT TO KEY IN ON MR. MOOS REPORT.

ONE BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE TYPICAY APPRAISAL SERVICES FULL-FLEDGED APPRAISAL WITH ALL OF THE DATA K IT UP. SO I WILL ADMIT THAT BEFORE I PT BUT I'M GOING TO PICK ON IT BECT SAYS TWO THINGS. ONE, THERE'S TWO PROPERTIES THAN POINT TO IN THE REPORT THAT HE O THAT SAYS THIS IS WHY RV AND BOT STORAGE NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL IS D IDEA.

HECKSHIRE DRIVE, I HAVE A CLUE S SOMEWHERE SOUTH OF GEORGIA. I KNOW IT'S NORTH JACKSONVILLE,

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THAT'S WHAT GOOGLE MAPS SAID TAE SHORT PS ROUTE 17.9 MILES FROM S LOCATION.

DEERFIELD PRESERVE -- I WORKED T PROJECT QUITE A BIT -- IT'S HAND FROM SOMETHING THAT'S ABUNDANTLY APPARENT WHEN YOU FIRST DRIVE TH THE ENTRY DRIVE. WHEN YOU TURN IN OFF AFTER 207 N DEERFIELD PRESERVE YOU SEE HIGHN POWER LINES AND GIGANTIC FPL EAN A HUGE ST. JOHNS TRANSMISSION CL MAIN TRANSMISSION CENTER IS RIGE NEXT TO THAT PROJECT. MR. MOODY DOESN'T REALLY CITE TS THE DEPRESSING THE VALUE TO THAE THOUGH HE CITES THE FACT THERE'A JUNKYARD AND EQUATES RV AND BOAE TOY JUNKYARD. THE RV AND BOAT STORAGE NOT SNOE AS A JUNKYARD.

WHEN YOU'RE RECYCLING AUTOMOBILA JUNKYARD WHICH IS WHAT'S NEXT TO DEERFIELD PRESERVE, THAT DOESN'T SHOW UP IN RESIDENTIAL A, RESID, C, D. IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN ANY OF THOS.

YOU'VE GOT TO -- IT'S AN INDUST. ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, COMPREHENSIVE -- EXCUSE ME -- YN COMPREHENSIVE LAND FUTURE LAND . ZONE-WISE IT'S AN EXTENSIVE USE. NOT ANYWHERE NEAR WHAT WE'RE TAG ABOUT. SO FROM THOSE STANDPOINTS IT'S . BUT LET'S LOOK AT THIS ISSUE OFS ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY BECAUSER OBJECTION RIGHT NOW THAT SAYS, A SECOND, WE NEED TO OBJECT BECAUT AND RV STORAGE, MINI STORAGE, SF STORAGE, THAT'S A BAD USE FOR HT IT'S CURRENTLY OR, AND SO IF YON A VACUUM AND YOU SAID THIS IS AE WITHOUT KNOWING THAT IT'S ALLOW, WHAT ARE THE ALLOWED USES RIGHT? AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SPECI. I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE THE AGENE BY GOING THROUGH ALL THE SPECIAS THAT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY GET S PROPERTY. AL LEWD USES OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE MANUFACTURED MODULAR MOBILE HOM. YOU'VE GOT CHILD. AND ADULT CARE.

YOU'VE GOT SPECIAL HOUSE YOU HOG ACKA ASSISTED LIVING SPHITS. TEM CEMETERY EXIST MAAS PLEEMS S AND PONIES. HOUSEHOLD ANIMALS. OTHER ANIMALS MEANING FARM ANIM.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A PIG FARS LAND. INTERESTING IF YOU GO TO -- I S, IF YOU GO TO ARTICLE 6 OF THE CD YOU TALK ABOUT HEIGHT, THERE'S T RESTRICTION IN OPEN RURAL.

LET ME REPEAT THAT. UNDER ARTICLE 6 THERE IS NO HEIT RESTRICTION IN OPEN RURAL.

OUR PROJECT IMPOSES A HEIGHT RESTRICTION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ALLOWED POTENTIALLY ON THIS SITE WOULD N ANTENNA. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD POY BE ALLOWED ON THIS SITE WOULD BN SILO. THAT'S WHY YOU GET THE NO HEIGHT LIMITATION IN OPEN RURAL. YOU HAVE ALLOWED BY RIGHT MODELS WITH OR WITHOUT SALES OFFICES AD CONSTRUCTION TRAILERS. SILVA COURAGE WITH HOR CULTURAL, AGRICULTURAL, CROP PRUPTION, LI, BEEKEEPING, HORSES AND PONIES, , PLANT NURSERIES WHICH WE HAVE HA NURSERY ON THE PROPERTY PREVIOU, AGAIN IT REPEATS SEM TWAIRS MAU, SPECIAL CARE HOUSING, DOG AND DC ANIMAL PARKS, RURAL HOME INDUST, AGRICULTURAL MANUFACTURE AND ST, BARNS, PENS, CLALS, STABLES, GREENHOUSES, MILKING PARLORS, DS FEED LOTS, SILOS. TREATED WASTEWATER LAND APPLICAN DISPOSAL.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS. SOUNDS BAD THOUGH. TREATED WASTEWATER LAND APPLICAN DISPOSAL. PRIMITIVE CAMP GROUNDS, DUDE RA, RIDING ACADEMY, HUNTING CAMPS, E PRESERVES BE WITH WILDLIFE PRES, OUTDOOR EVENTS, OUTDOOR ARENAS S ALLOWED BY RIGHT.

THINK OF THE LIGHTING THAT YOU T POTENTIALLY FROM AN OUTDOOR ARE. LIBRARIES, GALLERIES AND MUSEUM, SCHOOLS, ADULT DAYCARE, NOT A PE SCHOOL. PRIVATE SCHOOL REQUIRES A SPECI.

CHURCHES AND SYNAGOGUES, PRIVAT, PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES. I THINK I PROBABLY MADE THE POI.

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>> MR. BURNETT, THERE'S ONE LADE LINE. IT'S A GENTLEMAN.

>> I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN. >> WE HAVE ONE LADY AGENCY MEMB. >> OH, I APOLOGIZE.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT CORRECTION. AND SO I GUESS YOU KNOW I'VE BEE BEFORE ON PROJECTS WHERE WE'VE A SELF-STORAGE USE OR BOAT AND RVE AND I CAN POINT TO 207 ONE WE DT AT LIGHT SEE ROAD WHERE WE TWEAE LANGUAGE HERE ON THE FLOOR. I MENTIONED THIS I THINK TO SOMU WHEN I CALLED YOU PRIOR TO THISG THAT WE'VE TAKEN THAT LANGUAGE M THOSE OTHER PROJECTS WHERE YOU , DOUG -- YOU KNOW WHAT? -- DO THR LIGHTING. STANDARD.

PUT SOME ADDITIONAL LIMITATIONSF IT IS SELF-STORAGE. WE PUT THAT LANGUAGE IN THIS PUT FROM THE GET-GO. SO WE HAVE THE LANGUAGE THAT TAT OUR LIGHTING WILL BE DIRECTIONA.

WE HAVE THE BEST OF THE LANGUAGI THINK, ON ALL OF THESE PROJECTSY PUT INTO OUR TEXT.

AND AGAIN, I'LL JUST SHOW YOU TS LANGUAGE IN RED WITH ALL THESE T POTENTIAL USES.

WE'RE NOT SEEKING THOSE USES IN. WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE PEE USES, THE LANGUAGE ON THE LEFT E GOING TO DELETE FRIERT BOARD OFY COMMISSIONER MEETING. WE'RE ONLY TALK ABOUT THE COMMEL USES TO THE RIGHT. AGAIN, BENEFITS OF BOAT STORAGE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT E. VERY LOWP GENERATIONAL TRAFFIC. SCHOOLS, ZERO IMPACT ON SCHOOLS. AD VALOVER OARM TAX IT'S OBVIOUH FOR VERY LOW DEMAND FOR SERVICE. IT'S NEEDED IN THE AREA. IT'S GOT GREAT BENEFITS IN THE .

THE BENEFITS OF THE DESIGN ARE E THINGS WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN OUR PR AND ABOVE REQUIREMENTS.

WE HAVE AGREED TO ENHANCE LANDS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN OUR PROJECT. SO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT YU WOULDN'T GET FROM THE ALREADY EG OPEN RURAL USE. THIS IDEA THAT WE'RE GOING TO GF THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S GOING DOWN E EASTBOUNDERY, WE'RE GOING TO HAT DRIVEWAY GO THROUGH THE MIL OF E PROJECT GIVES US THE ABILITY TON THAT 40-FOOT BUFFER AND ACTUALLT MEANINGFUL VERSUS RIGHT NOW WHEE THERE'S NO BUFFER ALONG THAT BO. YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT DRIVET NOW, YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE BOD THERE IS THAT SIX FOOT BERM AS F THE BUFFER THAT IS AT THE KING E BEAR, AND YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE T THIS TALL LINE OF TREES GOING BO THE BACKGROUND HERE FADING OUT S THAT BERM GOING DOWN THAT SIDE.

AND AGAIN THAT DRIVEWAY GOES AWS PART OF THIS PROJECT, AND THIS P BEING BUFFER, AN ADDITIONAL BUF.

AND WITH THAT, I THINK MY CLIENO OFTEN I THINK OF THE TERMS OF, , I'M THE ONE DOING THE PRESENTATT STEVE EDMONDS IS GOING TO COME E BRIEFLY TO SHARE IF YOU SOME OFS THOUGHTS ABOUT HIS FAMILY OWNINS PROPERTY AND WHAT'S GONE ON IN T AND ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ON WHY E CONSIDERING BOAT AND RV STORAGE.

>> AND OBVIOUSLY THE REBUTTAL IO REBUT I THINK CONCERNS OR CLAIMT WERE MADE DURING THE PUBLIC COMT

PORTION SO IT SHOULD BE DIRECTES THAT. >> YES.

AND TWO THINGS RELATED TO THAT. ONE, THE BOAT AND RV STORAGE THN SOME OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS THN MR. MOODY REFERENCES, THERE'S BD RV STORAGE IN OTHER PLACES, THEN PUDS.

FOR EXAMPLE, ARBOR MILL HAS BOAV STORAGE THE WINDS THE PUD BUT IU DON'T LIVE IN ARBOR MILL YOU CAE JURY PORT OR RV IN THEIR FACILI. THERE'S OTHERS IN THE AREA BUT E REALLY THERE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC.

I THINK MR. EDMONDS' TESTIMONY R COMMENTS WILL BE RELATED TO REBL WHICH WILL BE VERY CLEAR FROM WE

SAYS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR CONSIDERATION. MY NAME IS STEVEN EDMONDS.

I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE PR. WE PURCHASED IN IT 1981 SO ACTUY BEFORE I WAS EVEN A SPEC.

WE PURCHASED THIS JUST LIKE ANYR DEVELOPER WITH THE INTENT TO USD DEVELOP IT FOR ITS HIGHEST AND E DOWN THE ROAD. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC ENTA AT THE TIME BUT WE DID WANT TO D WAIT AS THE COUNTY GREW AS DEVET GREW, AS THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND E FACILITIES GREW.

WE DETERMINED THAT BASED ON THER OF H OBVIOUSA COMMUNITIES AROUNE AREA THAT WERE NOT ALLOWING YOUK

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SORRY OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE OTHER FACILITIES BUT THE AVAILABILITYG GOBBLED UP AND IT'S NEXT TO NOT.

CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW DOUG MADE RE TOW THE BIG TRACTOR-TRAILERS THE PARKED ON THE FACILITY BY RIGHTF RESIDENTIAL A. THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW US TO CE OF THAT UP.

RIGHT NOW I'M SURE THE NEIGHBORE HEARING THE BEEPING LIKE DOUG ST NIGHT.

THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF THE S BACKING UP OR PULLING OUT OR FIP THE DIESEL ENGINE.

THIS WILL ALLOW THAT TO BE END P AND REPLACED -- CLEANED UP AND D TOTALLY.

BOTTOM LINE IS WE WANT A SAFE ENVIRONMENT. WE WANT A SECURE ENVIRONMENT.

WE WANT AN AESTHETICALLY PLEASIG ENVIRONMENT. IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS AROUND THE KATE IS NOTT BOAT AND RV, COMMERCIAL BUILDIN, OFFICES, STRIP CENTERS, WE DON'E BAND-AIDS, WE DON'T USE DUCT TA. WE TRY TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL LA VERY COMPLEANGS LOOK.

WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD HISTORY NEIGHBORS BEING PLEASED WITH PRT THAT WE'VE GIVEN, AND I THINK TE NEIGHBORS HERE WHEN THIS IS SAID DONE, IF YOU WERE KIND ENOUGH TT US THIS, WE INTEND TO DO THE SA, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE TAKEN THESE MEASURES TO I HAD WOO TEIN BUFFD EXTRA TWREEBS FENCING.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SECURITY. CAMERAS. RIGHT NOW IF SOMEBODY CRAWLS OVT BERM, THERE'S NOTHING THERE TO H THEM. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SECURITY.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MONITORED ST LIVE SECURITY AND IT WILL BE STO IF THERE EVERS IS EVEN MANAGE SH DIRECTLY RELATED TO OUR PROJECTE CATCH IT ON CAMERA WE'RE HAPPY A NEIGHBOR USE OUR CAMERA ACCESS S NOT THERE NOW THAT WE WILL PROV. ALL IN ALL WE WANT IT TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD-FRIENDLY USE.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO ENJOY AND IT E TO HAVE ACCESS, AND I APPRECIATR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ARE YOU DONE, DOUG?

WHAT HAVE YOU GOT LEFT? >> I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP ONT OF CLARIFICATION.

IN SOME OF MY LISTING OF OUR USI REPRESENTED WERE ALLOWED BY RIGY IN SCROLLING THROUGH BECAUSE I T UP ONLINE AS YOU SAW THIS ISSUE UNFOLDING, MAY HAVE MISSPOKEN IF OUR TECHS AS MR. ROBERSON AND IE COMMENTED BACK AND FORTH, I THIE OF THE PARTS OF MY TEXT THAT ARE PUD TEXT THE PART WE'RE ATHLETID NOT HAVE BEEN IN THERE TO BEGINH THIS. I WILL SAY MANY SOME OF THE OPEL USES, NOT ALL OF THE USES IN OPL THAT ARE LISTED WOULD BE ALLOWES I SAID BEFORE, THERE'S A WHOLE F THEM THAT WOULD BE, EVEN IF THEE ALLOWED, WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFU FOR A SPECIAL USE.

NEITHER HERE OR THERE. I THINK THE POINT'S MADE WHAT WE TRYING TO DO IS LESS THAN THE FY

OF WHAT POTENTIALLY IS THERE ASD USE UNDER RURAL USE CURRENTLY. >> WE ARE BACK IN THE AGENCY TH.

WE CAN CERTAINLY REQUEST ASK QUS OF THE APPLICANT. BUT LET'S GO THROUGH THE LIST AE WHAT PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS AND CONCE OR QUESTIONS. DR. HILSENBECK.

>> YES, I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMD QUESTIONS. IT'S BEEN STATED A COUPLE OF TID IT'S WRITTEN IN THE ITEM THAT TA 50-FOOT BUFFER WITHIN THE NEIGHD OF KING AND BEAR BEFORE YOU EVEO THIS PROPERTY, AND THEN THE APPT WILL DO A VEGETATIVE LANDSCAPE F 40 FEET.

I WAS IN THERE YESTERDAY, AND LT AERIALS CLOSELY, AND BEING ON TE PROPERTY, I JUST DON'T SEE THATS A 50-FOOT BUFFER BEHIND THE HOUD THAT BERM. THE PERM IS THERE BUT IT SEEMS E PART OF EVERYONE'S YARD. MANY PEOPLE HAVE LANDSCAPED THA. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S THEIR PROPER.

AND THEN JUST DIRECTLY BEYOND TM YOU'RE ONTO THE SUBJECT PROPERT. SO I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS A F

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IF SO, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THD AND I WOULDN'T CONSIDER THAT TOA BUFFER.

SO IF SOMEBODY COULD ADDRESS THT POSSIBLE BUFFER. ALSO, IT'S BEEN STATED SEVERAL T LEAST ONE PERSON STATED IT, THAS THIS PROPOSED USE AND PROJECT IS 300 FEET FROM THESE HOUSES.

I DON'T SEE THAT, EITHER. I SEE IT AS ABOUT 40 FEET FROM E BACKYARDS OF THESE HOUSES.

SO MAYBE THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED. BUT WHEN YOU'RE ON DEN STREET AE LOOKING BETWEEN THE HOUSES, YOUE DIRECTLY OVER THE BERM AND YOU E THE ROOFS OF THE WARD STREET ELY SCHOOL.

YOU CAN LOOK RIGHT ACROSS THERE. THERE'S REALLY NO SCREENING OR R ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO -- AND YOU CAN LIST ALL THE F CURRENT ZONING FOR OPEN RURAL AD PROBABLY MANY OF THE LANDOWNERST REALIZES THAT, BUT WHEN THEY BOT THEIR HOUSES, LOOKING AT A -- BN THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOUSES LOOKINA CURRENTLY ZONING MAP OF OPEN RUA FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF RESIDENT, AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT S IN RESIDENTIAL A THAN JUST HOUST THESE PEOPLE COULD REASONABLY HE EXPECTED THAT EITHER THAT WAS GO REMAIN OPEN USE OR THERE WOULD W NEIGHBORHOOD PUT IN BEHIND THEIR PROPERTY.

SO -- AND THESE ARE NOT INEXPENE HOUSES IN THERE. THIS IS INDEED A VERY NICE NEIG.

I LOOKED UP ONE HOUSE THAT I SAR SALE IN THERE ON BEN STREET. IT WAS LISTED FOR 699.9.

AND THERE WERE SOME OTHERS IN TE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE RELEVAN.

BUT THESE ARE NICE HOUSES. SO TO ME, LICK AT THE AREA, ANDE AROUND QUITE A BIT, THIS PROPOST AND RV STORAGE FACILITY JUST DO, IN MY OPINION, REFLECT THE CHARACTERISTIC OF AREA.

IT'S GOING TO PROVE DISRUPTIVE E HOMEOWNERS AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS BUILT.

IF IT COULD POSSIBLY INTERFERE E HOMEOWNERS' QUIET USE AND ENJOYF THEIR PROPERTY.

AND I WILL SAY THIS LAST THING. IF I LIVED THERE, AND THIS IS ME AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I CERTAINLD SO THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED IN WHAR ORDER THAT ANYONE WANTS OR NOBOO ADDRESS THEM AT ALL BUT THOSE AY

THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER. >> THANK YOU. DOUG, I DON'T WANT YOU TO DRONED ON BECAUSE WE'VE GONE ON FOR A E HERE. IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER WHAT THATT

BUFFER IS, I'D LIKE TO HEAR THA. >> I'LL COMMENT VERY QUICKLY ONE OF ASPECTS.

ONE, WE DIDN'T PUT IN THE RECORY THAT IT WAS 300 FEET AWAY. I JUST MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR.

THERE IS A 50-FOOT BUFFER ON THE WHICH OUR ENGINEER CALLED OUT AY ON OUR PLANS -- GIVE ME ONE MOMF

YOU WOULD. I WAS ACTUALLY TRYING TO PULL U. >> CAN STAFF NOTE IF THAT'S AN T

FOR A BUFFER? >> JUST THE ACTUAL PLAT ITSELF. >> YES, IT'S ON THE PLAT, AND IL YOU I'M LINING LOOKING AT M0 OF THE ST. JOHNS SIX MILE CREEKH UNIT ONE PLAT.

SO IT SHOWS DEN STREET, CROWN DD IT SHOWS LOTS 1 -- ON THIS PARTR PAGE -- YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE NE TO SEE THE REST -- BUT LOTS 1 T8 AND BLOCK H SHOWS A 50-FOOT LANE EASEMENT ACROSS THE BACK.

>> SO IT'S PART OF THEIR PROPERT IS AN EASEMENT THAT IS PROBABLY RESTRICTED IN SOME FORM FOR A LE

BUFFER. >> YES. >> IS THAT GENERALLY AGREED? GETTING A NOD FROM STAFF. ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S THEIR PROPERTY SO IT BAO THEIR PROPERTY. THANK YOU. MARGIE.

>> IN THE AGENCY, COMMENTS? >> YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AS WELL.

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>> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS OF THE A. I HAVE COMMENTS. >> PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS.

>> I'VE HAD TO REALLY BEAR DOWN, AND I COME TO A PLACE WHERE MY G ABOUT THIS COMES DOWN TO A VERYW PLACE. I THINK ON THE ONE HAND THAT PEE AN EXPECTATION BASED ON THE ZONG AROUND THEM THAT THAT BE MAINTAO HAVE SOME ASSURANCE ABOUT THE F, AND THAT IF YOU CHANGE THAT ZONU NEED TO LOOK OR WE NEED TO LOOKW THAT AFFECTS THE PEOPLE THAT ARY THERE.

ON THE OTHER HAND, I LOOK AT THE COMPARED TO THE OTHER USES THATE AVAILABLE TO THESE PROPERTY OWND I WONDER THAT THE PEOPLE WHO LIE DON'T SAY, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE,S MIGHT NOT BE SO BAD.

BUT THAT'S THE SITUATION THAT E PROPERTY OWNERS ARE MAKING. I'M NOT MAKING THAT.

THESE FOLKS HAVE ASKED FOR A CHA ZONING, AND THAT CHANGE IN ZONIY VIEW, IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH WHAT'S GOINGE NOW. THAT MEANS THAT I CANNOT SUPPOR.

IT'S VERY NARROW. I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS. >> THANK YOU.

MY TURN. I AGREE IN TERMS OF THE FUTURE E SAYS RES A, DUBS SAY DOESN, THE THREAT OF THE OPEN RURAL OPL USES, 90% OF THOSE ARE NOT POSSE BECAUSE IT'S A FAIRLY NARROW PIF PROPERTY, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'A COMPATIBLE USE, I DON'T THINK IT THE FUTURE LAND USE IS TALKING .

I THINK MIGHT HAVE ITS PLACE IFS A LOT MORE SENSITIVITY TO WHAT'G ON AROUND IT, BUT I DON'T REALLT PERSONALLY. THAT'S ENOUGH FOR ME. MRS. PERKINS.

>> I. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONT JUST A FEW COMMENTSI LIKE THE S. I THINK IT'S WELL LAID OUT.

I LIKE THE FACT THEY'RE INCLUDIA 50-FOOT BUFFER THAT THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRED TO DO.

AND THE ADDED SECURITY THAT THEE WILLING TO DO. THAT BEING SAID, THE SITE PLAN S THERE'S OVER 500 SPACES FOR RVSD BOATS WHICH ARGUABLY WOULD BE OE LARGEST IN THE COUNTY, AND IF YK AT THE OTHER ONES IN THE COUNTYE ALL LOCATED IN COMMERCIAL AREAS. THE ONES THAT ARE NOT LOCATED IN COMMERCIAL AREAS ARE SMALLER IN0 TO 50, AND THEY'RE LOCATED WITHE HOA OR THE CBD.

SO JUST LOOKING AT EVERYTHING TS PRESENTED AND HEARING ALL THE TY IN THE OPPOSITION, I JUST DON'TK THIS IS A COMPATIBLE PLACE TO P. IF IT WERE SAMERI ELSE, THEN IT- SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT WOULD PROBABE

GREAT, BUT NOT HERE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MR. ALAIMO.

>> YES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS E APPLICANT. I DID SPEAK WITH DOUG YESTERDAY. I DIDN'T HAVE THE MATERIALS IN F ME. BUT WE VOTED ON A HANDFUL OF THN THE PAST, THESE RV AND BOAT STOE FACILITIES. I THINK THERE IS A DEMAND FOR T. PEOPLE MOVING FROM UP NORTH ANDE FOLKS THAT MOVE HERE IN THESE DEED-RESTRICTED COMMUNITIES, THA PLACE TO STORE THEIR BOAT SO I K THERE'S A DEMAND FOR THESE AND O THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LO GET INTO THE BUSINESS OF DETERMG WHAT IS -- WHAT BUSINESSES -- DE TOO MANY OF THESE, DO WE HAVE TY OF THAT, I DON'T LIKE TO GET INE BUSINESS OF PICKING WINNERS AND. BUT I HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO REALY EXAMINE THISSERS AND LOOK AT I ECHO THE COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGN THE BOARD HERE. AFTER REALLY TAKING A SECOND LOD STUDYING EVERYTHING, I'M JUST CD ABOUT THE NOISE AND THE LIGHTS T JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S THET FOR THIS. I DON'T FIND IT TO BE COMPATIBL. THOSE ARE JUST MY COMMENTS ON I.

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. MATOVINA. >> .

GREG, ARE YOU STILL ON? >> WHERE ARE WE? SORRY.

I FORGOT TO PUSH THE MUTE BUTTO. I FIRST HAVE A QUESTION OF STAF. HOW DO WE -- I ASSUME THAT THEYT ALLOWED 90,000 SQUARE FEET OF CL SPACE AND 400RV SPACES IF THEY O DO SOME SORT OF MIXED, THEY COUT

THEY CAN'T DO ALL OF THAT, I ASS THE CASE. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

WE WOULD STIPULATE TO THAT. I CAN TELL YOU WITHOUT GETTING H DETAIL.

IF WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT BEFOE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, MR. MATOVINA, WE CERTAINLY WOULE

TO THAT. >> . >> AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS INCS PROVISIONS THAT SPECIFICALLY REE HOURS OF OPERATION. I KNOW CODE SAYS YOU CAN'T SHINH OF LIGHTS OVER THAT BERM. I BELIEVE I KNOW THAT. BUT WOULD YOU AGREE THERE ARE

STIPULATIONS RELATED TO HOURS OF OPERATION AND IT BEING GATED? >> YES.

>> OKAY. SO HERE'S MY THINKING ON THIS, S REALLY IS AN ODD DUCK, BUT WHENO TO THE LAND USE MAP AND YOU LOO, YOU SAY, OKAY, OR IS NOT COMPATE BECAUSE WHERE IT IS SURROUNDED E SIDES BY MIXED USE, SO IF THE AT CAME TO US WITH AN APPLICATION O MIXED USE, I WOULD REALLY STRUGH NOT ALLOWING THEM TO GO TO MIXE. WELL, THEN WHAT USES ARE ALLOWER MIXED USE? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THESS AND, YOU KNOW, COULD END UP BEIA MUSIC PARK AMUSEMENT PARK .

I BELIEVE THEY COULD DO MULTI-F. DOUG, WHAT DO COULD YOU DO UNDED USESOME.

>> THEN 13 UNIS AN ACRE, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL, ALL OF E COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES.

IT'S ONE OF THE BROADEST CATEGOS THERE IS. >> MR. CHAIR, MAY I COMMENT?

>> YOU MAY. >> THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED, E RESIDENTIAL A PROPERTY, THE EDMS PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY THE SS DRI AND IT IS BLUE OUR FUTURE LE MAP BECAUSE IT'S A DRI THAT WASD PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THOSE DRIS ARE ALLOWED TO COE AS THEY WERE APPROVED, AND THATT WAS REFLECTED SO THAT'S WHY THOE BLUE OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP ASN EXISTING DRI. SO WHATEVER THE MAP SHOWS FOR TI IN THAT GENERAL LOCATION IS WHAY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO. WITH RESPECT TO THE MIXED USE, S OUR MOST INTENSE CATEGORY WE HAN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, A FUTURE LANDE CATEGORY, AND IT DOES ALLOW A WE VARIETY OF USES TO OCCUR AND A F THINGS TO HAPPEN ON THOSE PIECEF PROPERTY, BUT THIS PROPERTY WOUE SUBJECT TO THE PROPERTY SURROUNE

EDMONDS PROPERTY WOULD BE SUBJEO WHAT THE DRI PROPOSES FOR THAT . >> THE SAME ANOTHER WAY IS THE S GRANDFATHERED IN AND THAT INCLUA MIXED USE. THIS PROPERTY DOESN'T NECESSARIW

FOR MIXED USE AS A FUTURE LAND . IS THAT CORRECT? >> I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE FUTUR, MAP H IS WHAT THEY CALL IT, IT'E MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THII DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE ST. JOHNS I PROPOSES IN THAT GENERAL LOCATI. OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE RESIDENTIALE THAT'S WHAT'S BUILT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS AROUN. BUT I WOULD BE HESITANT TO SAY D BE AN ENTIRE MIXTURE OF USES BEE

IT'S RESIDENTIAL IN THIS GENERA. >> RIGHT. >> SO ONE MORE QUESTION FOR TERE SHE'S ANSWERING QUESTIONS. TERESA, SHOULD THERE BE AN ECONC JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS PROPOSED?

>> THOSE ARE REQUIRED FOR COMPRE PLAN AMOUNTS. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS JUSTG THROUGH A PUD ZONING, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR LAND DEVELOT CODE.

IT IS RESIDENTIAL A. THEY ARE ASKING FOR A PUD TO DOA NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS USE.

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>> OKAY. BUT THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DOF THOSE STUDIES THAT WE GET WHEN A

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE. >> NO, SIR, THEY ARE NOT. >> THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU.

DR. MCCORMICK, QUESTION OR COMM? >> WELL, I'VE WAFFLED BACK AND N THIS TO BEGIN WITH.

I WAS PRETTY MUCH CONVINCED GOIO THIS MEETING TODAY THAT I WAS GO VOTE ONE WAY, AND BASED ON THE S THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, PARTICULARY SOME OF THE AGENCY MEMBERS, I TM GOING TO GO THE OTHER WAY.

SO HAVING SAID THAT, I WON'T MAA MOTION. I'LL LEAVE THAT TO SOMEONE ELSE.

>> ALL RIGHT. DOUG, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? GOT A MINUTE.

>> NO, IF SOMEONE'S GOT A SUGGEN WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE REVISEDO MOVE FORWARD AND GAIN TH SUPPORE AGENCY, WE'LL CERTAINLY -- I'VEE IN EDMONDS HERE. HE CAN MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THT

QUICKLY OBVIOUSLY. >> BACK IN THE AGENCY THEN. MORE COMMENTS OR A MOTION, PLEA.

>> IF THERE ARE NO MORE COMMENTE END OF IT I'D OFFER A MOTION. >> I HEAR NO ONE SPEAKING UP.

>> I'D OFFER A MOTION TO RECOMMD DENIAL OF PUD 2020-02 EDMONDS FY PARTNERSHIP BOAT AND RV PUD SUBO TEN FINDINGS OF FACT AS LISTED E STAFF REPORT. AND THAT RECOMMENDATION IS BASEY

EARLIER COMMENTS. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY. LET'S GO THROUGH THE ROLL CALL .

SO A YES IS A VOTE TO DENY. A NO IS NOT TO DENY. DR. HILSENBECK.

, VOTE TO DENY? >> YES. >> MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MS. PERKINS.

>> YES. >> MR. ALAIMO. >> YES.

>> MR. MATOVINA. >> NO. >> DR. MCCORMICK.

>> YES. >> MOTION TO DENY CARRIES 6-1. THANK YOU ALL.

THAT WAS A TOUGH ONE, YES, SIR. >> IT WAS. >> UP NEXT, STAFF REPORTS.

[Reports]

>> NOTHING TO ADD, SIR. MIKE ROBERTSON HERE, OTHER THANO HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING SCHEDULEDR AUGUST 20TH. WE HAVE CURRENTLY FOUR ITEMS ON. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> FOUR? ALL RIGHT. ANY RV PARKS?

>> I DON'T SEE ANY RV PARKS ON . >> GREAT. AGENCY REPORTS? ANYBODY ONLINE WANT TO JUST CHI? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL KEEP DOING THIS REMOTELY,, FOR THE DURATION. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER COMM?

SEEING NONE, I'LL TAKE A MOTIONO ADJOURN. >> I SO MOVE.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE'RE

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