Aug 04, 2020 Board of County Commissioners

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>> COMMISSIONER SMITH: I NOW CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, AUGUST 4, 2020. GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE.

WELCOME. IN ORDER TO MITIGATE THE TRANSMISSION OF THE CORONAVIRUS AND REDUCE RISK OF THE COVID-19 ILLNESS, THE GOVERNOR HAS SUSPENDED THE REQUIREMENT OF A PHYSICAL FORUM AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAS ADOPTED PROCEDURES TO CONDUCT MEETINGS USING REMOTE PARTICIPAION THROUGH EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION NUMBER 2020-3.

SO THE PUBLIC HAS MEANS TO COMMENT WITHOUT PHYSICALLY ATTENDING.

ALONG WITH PRIOR COMMUNICATIONS INCLUDING EMAIL AND THE PUBLIC MAY COMMENT I FOUND WHILE WATCHING THE MEETING VIA GTV OR BY STREAMING POSTED ON THE COUNTIES WEBSITE.

THE WEBSITE ALSO PROVIDES A TELEPHONE NUMBER TO USE TO GOING TO THE MEETING.

EVEN IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CANNOT PROVIDE COMMENT, PARTICIPANTS ARE ADVISED THAT PEOPLE MAY BE LISTENING WHO DO NOT PROVIDE COMMENT AND THOSE PERSONS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED. THOSE OF YOU CALLING IN TO COMMENT IF YOU RECEIVE A BUSY SIGNAL, PLEASE CALL BACK. P10 YOU TO WATCH GTV WHILE YOU ARE COMMENTING BECAUSE THE TIMER WILL BE VISIBLE TO YOU. PLEASE MUTE YOUR PHONE WHILE YOU ARE WAITING TO COMMENT. ALSO, BE AWARE THERE MAY BE A DELAY OF MAYBE 5 TO 9 SECONDS INDIVIDUAL PRESENTATIONS AND IF WE EXPERIENCE ANY TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, WE MAY RECESS TO RESOLVE IT AND THEN RECONVENE. MEETING MATERIALS FOR TODAY'S MEETING ARE AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE UNDER AGENDA AND MINUTES. ONCE YOU FIND THE AGENDA YOU CAN CLICK ON THE ITEM TO ACCESS ALL OF THE SUPPORTING MATERIALS.

THIS MORNING, WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER THAT MAY NOT ÃIS NOT WITH US WILL HAVE Ã POWERBOATS WILL BE TAKEN VIA ROLL CALL. WITH THAT BEING SAID I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO PLEASE CALL THE WORLD.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH: EVERYBODY WOULD PLEASE STAND AND MR. KELLY KEMP WILL PROVIDE

THE INVOCATION THIS MORNING. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

IN THE BOOK OF PSALMS CHAPTER 33, THE BIBLE SAYS THIS: BLESSED IS A NATION WHOSE GOD IS THE LORD. AND THE PEOPLE WHOM HE HAS CHOSEN FOR HIS OWN INHERITANCE.

THE LORD LOOKS DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND HE BEHOLD ALL THE SONS AND MEN.

IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS, WE WATCHED PRETTY SAD EVENT ON TELEVISION AS WE SAW PEOPLE CRASHING INTO CHURCHES ON PURPOSE, FURNITURE TO SOUND AND TEAR STATUES OF JESUS DOWN.

LAST WEEK WE WATCHED PEOPLE BURN BIBLES IN THE STREET. INSTEAD OF PUSHING GOD OUT FURTHER, WE NEED TO PRAY AND ASK GOD TO COME INTO OUR COUNTRY AND TO FILL OUR COUNTRY IN THE STREETS OF OUR COUNTRY. BLESSED IS A NATION WHOSE GOD IS THE LORD.

THE OPPOSITE WOULD BE CURSED, A COUNTRY WITHOUT GOD. WE NEED GOD IN OUR LIVES TODAY AND WE ARE ASKING TO COME HERE IN THIS MEETING TODAY. WHEN I FINISHED MY PRAYER I WILL SAY AMEN AND IT IS LIKE TO JOIN ME I'M GOING TO SAY THE LORD'S PRAYER.

IF YOU REMEMBER YEARS AGO WHEN WE WENT TO FOOTBALL GAMES, I REMEMBER WE WOULD STAND AND SAY THE LORD'S PRAYER. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN, YOU ARE WELCOME TO.

LORD, COME BEFORE YOUR THRONE TODAY AND WE THANK YOU FOR THIS NATION.

WE PRAY TO GOD OUR NATION IS FOUNDED ON YOUR WORD AND WE PRAY THAT TODAY WE WOULD JUST LIFT YOU UP AND PRAISE YOU AND PRAY THAT OUR NATION WILL BE BLESSED.

FOR YOU FILL THE STREETS, DEAR LORD. YOU CAST OUT ALL THE CHAOS AND EVIL. FOR THOSE WHO HAVE JUST BURNED BIBLE, WE PRAY THAT HE WOULD TEST THEIR HEARTS AND LET THEM HEAR YOU INSTEAD AND CAST OUT THIS HATRED AND ANGER.

WE PRAY THAT YOU BLESS THIS COMMISSION TODAY AND WE PRAY FOR YOU BLESSED THEM WITH WISDOM. WE OFFER PRAYERS TO PAUL WALDRON THAT HE WILL HEAL HIM TODAY. WE PRAY THIS COVID VIRUS IS INFECTED US AND YOUR WORD SAYS THAT IF A DISEASE LIKE THIS COMES INTO OUR LAND, WE PRAY AND HUMBLE OURSELVES AND TURN FROM OUR WICKED WAYS. WE DO THIS TODAY AND TURN TO YOU.

WE PRAY WE WOULD HUMBLE OURSELVES AND YOU WILL HEAL AS LAND AND SAVE US, DEAR GOD.

WE THANK YOU AND WE PRAY TO GOD. WE KNOW HOW IT'S AFFECTED PEOPLE ALL AROUND THIS WORLD AND WE PRAY THAT YOU CAST IT OUT IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

WE THANK YOU FOR THIS AND WE PRAY FOR YOUR WISDOM AND GOING FORWARD TO THIS HELPED US TO MARCH FORWARD IN YOUR NAME, IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. OUR FATHER, WHICH ART IN

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AND EVER. AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH: THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED.

THE HEAD OF PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING, I WANT TO MENTION THAT WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATED DISCUSSION REGARDING THE LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

STAFF IS PREPARED FOR THAT. AND ALSO, WE WOULD ÃHE PLANNED TO PLACE NUMBER FOUR, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, FOR WHICH MANY OF YOU ARE HERE TODAY AT THE FRONT OF THE AGENDA TO ADDRESS THE REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE AND WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THAT TIME FOR

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>> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL BE CALLING ON COLLINS ON THE PHONE FIRST AND THEN THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO SPEAK, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. REGULAR HEIR OWN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

ANY PERSON WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD SHOULD COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS. EACH PERSON WILL BE PROVIDED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND SHALL COMPLY WITH THE BOARD'S RULES OF DECORUM. COMMENTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER AND MAY NOT INCLUDE A DEMAND FOR ANY IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD. NO PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR WITH BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR.

MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ANY DISRUPTIVE DEMONSTRATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS. I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT ANY SPEAKER REPRESENTS ANY OVERHEAD MATERIAL, PLEASE PRESENT THE MATERIAL TO THE STAFF AND THE CLERK OF THE COURT TO BE ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. THANK YOU. AGAIN, I WILL CALL ÃDO WE HAVE COLLINS ON THE PHONE? IF SO, PLEASE GO AHEAD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR

THE RECORD, PLEASE. >> WILLIAM. 671 LINEAR CIRCLE, SAINT

AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. 32092. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THANK

YOU. GO AHEAD. >> I'M CALLING ABOUT THE DEVELOPERS PLAN TO PUT LOW INCOME HOUSING AND SMALL LOT HOMES IN THE SHEARWATER NEIGHBORHOOD.> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THAT'S ON THE AGENDA. PHE MAY CALL AND LET ME TAKE THAT ITEM UP AND WE WILL TAKE IT UP FIRST. THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, AND WE HAVE THREE MINUTES EACH. THANK YOU.

>> I WANT TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THE PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT NOW IS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. YOU CAN CALL IN IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. WE WILL TAKE THAT ITEM UP FIRST.

THANK YOU. NEXT CALLER? >> HELLO.

I AM SANDY SHILOH AND MY NAME IS 113 LAUREL KATE LN. I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF SHEARWATER AND I WANTED TO VOICE MY CONCERN OVER CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR OUR

COMMUNITY. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: MA'AM, I JUST TOLD THE OTHER FELLOW AND I HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYONE. ANY COLLARS THAT ARE CALLING ON SHEARWATER OR ASTRID MILLS AS ITEM 4 ON THE AGENDA BUT WE WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE VERY FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, AND THEN THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM CAN SPEAK AT THAT TIME UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT RIGHT NOW, WE ARE TAKING UP PUBLIC COMMENT IN GENERAL ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA. SO IF ANYONE IS WAITING TO SPEAK ON SHEARWATER, THE ITEM WILL COME UP FIRST IN A FEW MINUTES AS AN AGENDA ITEM.

THANK YOU. NEXT CALLER >> DO I CALL BACK?

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN: CALL BACK WHEN WE TAKE UP ITEM 4 IN FIVE OR 10 MINUTES, I HOPE.

THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM OR SIR. WHO IS CALLING HI

>> MY NAME IS BARBARA ALDERMAN AND MY ADDRESS IS 547 MANGROVE THICKET BLVD. PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

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I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS A BURDEN ON ANYONE TO WEAR A MASK WHILE IN PUBLIC, AND IT CERTAINLY IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, AND I STRONGLY URGE

YOU TO SUPPORT ONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THANK YOU, MA'AM. I APPRECIATE IT. NEXT CALLER, PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> HAVE YOU GOT ME NOW? >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: YES. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE,

MA'AM. >> ANDREA FLOUR, 215 7TH ST., ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH.

I WAS AT THE LAST MEETING AND I WENT TO COMMENT ON THE MASKS. FTER THE LAST MEETING, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM COMMISSIONER JOHNS STATING THAT HE COULDN'T VOTE ON THE MASK BECAUSE THERE WASN'T A QUORUM AND I BELIEVE TODAY THERE IS A QUORUM AND NOT THAT WOULD NOT BE REASONABLE. I FIND THAT COMMENT TO BE UNREASONABLE.

THERE IS AN ARTICLE THAT YOU CAN WORK UP ONLINE WHAT MASS REQUIREMENTS ARE IN PLACE IN FLORIDA AND THERE ARE ABOUT 30 CITIES AND COUNTIES THAT ARE REQUIRING THE MASKS.

THERE IS REALLY NO REASON TO SAY IT CAN'T BE MANDATED AND NOW YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

OUR NUMBERS ARE GOING UP, TOURISTS ARE COMING IN. I HAVE HAD SOMEONE DIE FROM IT, AND I HAVE HAD SOMEONE VERY, VERY SICK FROM IT. SO I THINK POLITICS ASIDE, AND NONSENSE ASIDE, THE CONFESSIONALS ARE ASKING US TO MANDATE A MASK.

DO IT TEMPORARILY. DO IT FOR A MONTH OR SIX WEEKS OR UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING AND LET'S SEE HOW IT GOES. THAT'S MY COMMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THANK YOU, MA'AM. FURTHER CALL AND CALLS?

YES. >> HELLO. I AM MARIA AND MY ADDRESS IS

260 PARADISE VALLEY DRIVE. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: GO AHEAD. >> I HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF THE MONUMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE IS ANY POSSIBLE WAY FOR THEIR TO BE A REDRESS AS AN ISSUE WITH MORE PUBLIC COMMENT AND PUBLIC PARTICIPATION BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S NOT JUST ONE OPINION ABOUT HIS FEELINGS GET HURT WHEN THE MONUMENT STAYS OR IF THE MONUMENT GOES. ND IT'S A HISTORIC LANDMARK SITE.

WHY IS IT THAT ÃI DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DECISION TO REMOVE THE MONUMENT, AND I THINK THIS NONSENSE OF RELOCATING IT IS JUST PLACATING AN ISSUE THAT ISN'T AN ISSUE.

AND WHY CAN'T WE HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC DEBATE AND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

WITH DIFFERENT VOICES THAT MAYBE DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AS BIG OF A VOICE WHEN THIS DECISION WAS MADE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THANK YOU, MA'AM. LET ME JUST SAY QUICKLY FOR THOSE WHO MAY, ANY OTHER CALLERS WHO MAY BE CALLING AND THAT REGARDING THE MONUMENTS THAT ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAZA THOSE ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND THE CITY HAS EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION OVER WHETHER OR NOT THOSE MONUMENTS STAY OR GO.

THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS NO ROLE OR NO JURISDICTION IN THAT ISSUE.

WE ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR SO EVERYONE KNOWS WE AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO TAKE ANY ACTION EITHER WAY ON THAT ISSUE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER CALLS ON THE LINE? HELLO? GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING. SOMEONE IS ON.

HELLO? PIT'S A GHOST. BEAR WITH US ONE MOMENT.

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GOOD MORNING. >> SHERRY BADGER, 2772 S. COLLINS AVENUE.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU ALL AND THE EMPLOYEES, THE SUPREME COURT RECOGNIZED NEIGHBORS BEING EXPERTS IF THEY LIVE WITHIN 300 FEET OF THIS PROJECT.

SOMETHING THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF OVERLOOKED. COMMISSIONER DEAN, YOU ASKED Ã YOU ASKED FOR THIS TO BE LOOKED INTO. WHY THIS FLOODING WAS AN ISSUE COMING BACK INTO A COUNTY ROAD. THE SAME THING IS GOING ON UPTOWN.

YOU ALL ARE APPROVING STAFF AND STAFF IS APPROVING STAFF AND NOT KNOWING ABOUT THE LOCAL DRAINAGE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I TOLD YOU BEFORE RED BRIDGE CREEK WAS DOWN AT THE END OF S.

COLLINS AVENUE. ON FIRST STREET, RUNS, ITS TITLE.

I TOOK THIS PICTURE SUNDAY BEFORE THE STORM EVEN GOT HERE. YOU CAN SEE THE TIDE HAS RECEDED. THIS IS A TIDAL. HERE IS THE RETENTION POND ALMOST FULL. YOU CAN'T EVEN HARDLY SEE Ã WAIT A MINUTE.

HERE IS THE DRAINAGE HOLE. ALL OF THAT WATER GOES INTO IT. YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE IT.

YOU ALL ARE FLOODING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH YOUR STAFF. HERE ARE PICTURES COMING OUT WHERE TE WATER IS GOING INTO THE STREET. RIGHT INTO MY NEIGHBOR'S YARD.

I DON'T LIVE IN ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH. I DON'T GET RUN OUT AND I DON'T GET THIS. I DON'T LIVE ÃI LIVE IN A REGULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IF YOU GET MEDIA OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT, YOU ALL ÃIS DISMISSIVE.

HERE AGAIN, HERE IS ANOTHER TRUCK. THE TRUCKS HAVEN'T STOPPED AND THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE NO TRUCKS USING THIS ROAD. I HAVE BEEN UP HERE FOR OVER A YEAR, EVERY TWO WEEKS, GIVING YOU PICTURES. BUT I LIKE TO REMIND YOU ALL THESE PEOPLE ÃIF THEY LEFT WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE PROPERTY YOU ARE VOTING ON, THEY ARE CONSIDERED EXPERTS BY THE SUPREME COURT. THANK YOU.

GOD BLESS. >> THANK YOU. FURTHER COMMENTS?

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE? >> BJ KALAIDI.

GOOD MORNING. JUST AS AN FYI TO THE PUBLIC, RENEWAL NOTICE OF THE REGISTRATION IS CONTRACTED OUT BY THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE. IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THIS IS NOT BEING DONE. WATCH OUT AND CHECK YOUR REGISTRATIONS AND WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GIVE YOU A TICKET. I DON'T ANYWAY.HE NAME OF OUTSIDE LAWYERS AND OTHERS WHO REPRESENT DEVELOPERS SHOULD NOT ÃLET ME REPEAT ÃSHOULD NOT BE SHOWN ON THE PRINTED AGENDA.

ESPECIALLY NOT ABOVE THE NAMES OF COUNTY EMPLOYEES. THIS IS FREE ADVERTISING FOR SOME WHO CONSISTENTLY TALK IN THE AUDIENCE DURING BCC MEETINGS.

WHICH I HAVE SEEN OVER AND OVER AND OVER. RUDE BEHAVIOR SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN SUCH RECOGNITION. SO PLEASE, WHOEVER DECIDED TO DO THAT, THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN.

AND I WANT TO SAY, I AM SO GLAD TO SEE ALL OF THESE RESIDENTS HERE FOR NUMBER FOUR.

I WONDERED WHY EVERYBODY WAS HERE TODAY. I FIGURED IT HAD TO BE FOR SOMETHING. AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT? THE LAWYER IS WONDERING WHY TOO, ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE. IT'S GOING TO BE CONTINUED.

WITHOUT A HINT LITTLE MINUTES AGO. AND THE ONES THAT ARE CALLING

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JUST LIKE MY 46 SECONDS ARE UP, THAT IS IT. WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYBODY ELSE COME UP AND TALK. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE CALLING IN AFTER I HAVE SPOKEN BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. AND THAT'S FINE, BUT TAKE A RETURN. SO I THINK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO BUT I TRULY THINK THE RESIDENTS WHO CAN AND WILL STAND UP IN THESE MEETINGS AND NOT CALL IN AN EMAIL, PUT THEIR FACES OUT THERE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW HOW STRONGLY WE CARE ABOUT OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH I BELIEVE HAVE BEEN AND CONTINUE TO BE DESTROYED. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN: FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, AGAIN, ON GENERAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? HOW ABOUT THE PHONE AND? DO WE HAVE ONE? GO AHEAD IF YOU ARE ON THE

PHONE. >> GOOD MORNING CHECK I AM CHRISTINE AND MY ADDRESS IS 476 SPARROW BRANCH CIRCLE IN ST. JOHNS. 32259. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO CALL AND AND VOICE MY OPINION. I'M CALLING AND AGAINST PUTTING A MASK MANDATE INTO EFFECT.

THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THAT WEARING A MASK STOPS THEY SPREAD OF THE CORONAVIRUS.

EVERY TIME YOU LEAVE YOUR HOUSE, YOU PUT YOURSELF AT RISK FOR ANY NUMBER OF THINGS, ACCIDENTS, ETC. EACH OF US DOES THESE THINGS TO MITIGATE OUR OWN PERSONAL RISK.

HE WEAR A SEATBELT, IS UNBLOCKED, LOOK BOTH WAYS BEFORE CROSSING THE STREET.

YOU GET IT. IT'S NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO MITIGATE THE RISK YOU TOOK WHEN YOU LEFT YOUR HOUSE. IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO DO SOMETHING I DON'T BELIEVE AND TO MAKE SURE YOUR CHOICE IS LESS RISKY. YOU WANT TO WEAR A MASK, YOU FEEL THAT IT PROTECTS YOU, FEEL FREE TO WEAR A MASK. I WILL NOT SAY ANYTHING TO YOU.

I WAS STILL GRAY IF AND TREAT YOU WITH RESPECT. I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY OWN ACTIONS, MY HEALTH, MY HYGIENE. WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR FREEDOMS AND LIBERTIES? IT'S NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF MY HEALTH. IT'S THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF MY RIGHTS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A

GREAT DAY. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

FURTHER CALLINGS? GO AHEAD. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

>> MY NAME IS JERRY BROOKS. I LIVE AT 102 BERMUDA CT. , PONTE VEDRE BEACH, FLORIDA.

I AM 69 AND MY HUSBAND IS 73, AND WE WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE A MASK MANDATE.

WE ONLY REALLY GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND EVEN THOUGH MASKS ARE REQUIRED, OFTEN TIMES THAT'S NOT BEING TOTALLY ENFORCED. IT'S DANGEROUS OUT THERE FOR MANY OF US, AND EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY CAN MANAGE SOMEHOW TO ENFORCE A MASK MANDATE, SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT DOES NOT FEEL CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO DO SO IN THIS COUNTY AS WELL. WE ARE IMPORTANT TOO. THOSE OF US WHO ARE VULNERABLE ARE IMPORTANT TOO. AND I CERTAINLY THINK WE ARE WORTHY OF A MESS THE ONLY WAY THIS VIRUS IS GOING TO GET UNDER CONTRACT IS WHEN ALL OF US ARE WEARING MASKS.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

CALL IN? YES? GO AHEAD.

>> NOT MET Ã[INDISCERNIBLE] >> WENDY, LAS COLINAS BLVD., VALENCIA.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN: GO AHEAD >> I AM CALLING BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY NEED A PUBLIC

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IF IT'S NEEDED, IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG PANDEMIC. IN ADDITION, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY TO THE WOMAN IN A PINK HAT THAT PEOPLE CAN CALL AND AS MUCH AS NEEDED FOR ANYTHING AND SHE DOESN'T DECIDE WHEN PEOPLE CALL IN. PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CALL IN RIGHT NOW AND THEY ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE PHONES. PLEASE ALLOW THEM TO CALL IN.

PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN HUNG UP ON AND PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN PATCHED THROUGH AND HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO TALK. SO THERE ARE PEOPLE WAITING ON THE LINE TO TALK RIGHT NOW THEY DESERVE TIME TO TALK. LASTLY, THERE IS NO REASON FOR US TO BE PRAYING IN A CIVIL PUBLIC FORUM. PRAYER IS FOR ÃIT'S SEPARATE. THAT'S WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS WANTED. THEY WANTED PRAYER TO BE SEPARATE FROM CIVIL AND PUBLIC

AND GOVERNMENT MATTERS. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THANK

YOU, MA'AM. GO AHEAD, PLEASE, ON THE PHONE. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

I AM JANA PATENT 7265 A1A SOUTH. GOOD MORNING.

I'VE ASKED YOU BEFORE TO IMPLEMENT THE MASK MANDATE FOR OUR COUNTY.

WELL, I AM NOW PLEADING WITH YOU TO DO SO BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

PLEASE LISTEN TO OUR SCIENTISTS, OUR MEDICAL EXPERTS, AND YOUR OWN PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT. PLEASE JOIN THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE AND ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH BY MANDATING THAT Ã MASKS. OUR ECONOMY WILL NOT REBOUND UNTIL THE VIRUS IS UNDER CONTROL. THE TWO ARE LINKED AT THE HIP.

MASKS ARE NOT NOR SHOULD THEY BE A POLITICAL ISSUE. JUST LAST WEEK ROBERT REDFIELD DIRECTOR OF THE CDC STATED I THINK IF WE COULD GET EVERYBODY TO WEAR A MASK RIGHT NOW, I THINK AT FOUR, SIX, EIGHT WEKS WE COULD BRING THIS EPIDEMIC UNDER CONTROL.

END OF QUOTE. THIS PANDEMIC IS A SAFETY AND HEALTH ISSUE.

WE LOOK TO YOU FIRST AND FOREMOST TO PROTECT OUR PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.

ONLY ONE OF YOU IS STEPPING FORWARD TO SUPPORT A MASK MANDATE.

YES, YOU HAVE MADE YOUR OWN HOUSE SAFE BY REQUIRING MASKS AND I COMMEND YOU FOR DOING SO.

AND YES, YOU HAVE ASKED THE BUSINESSES TO TAKE A PLEDGE TO VOLUNTARY ASK CUSTOMERS TO WEAR A MASK. THESE ACTIONS ARE NOT THE SAME AS A MANDATE, HOWEVER.

I DO NOT NEED TO TELL YOU THAT WE ARE IN A BATTLE AGAINST A DEADLY HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS VIRUS, ONE LIKE WE'VE NEVER SEEN IN OVER 100 YEARS. WITHOUT A VACCINE AND THERAPEUTICS, OUR ONLY DIFFERENCES ARE MASKS, SOCIAL DISTANCING AND AVOIDING CROWDS.

INDIVIDUAL THINGS EACH ONE OF US AND OUR THOUSANDS OF VISITORS CAN DO AND MUST DO TO BE EFFECTIVE. OTHERWISE, THE VIRUS CONTINUES TO SPREAD AND ÃPLAY SEASON WILL BE UPON US SOON WHICH CAN BE A DOUBLE THREAT. I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO VOICE MY PUBLIC OPINION AND I HOPE YOU WILL DO THE RIGHT THING FOR ALL OF OUR HEALTH AND

SAFETY. GOOD DAY. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: FURTHER COST? IN THE I DON'T SEE ANY. YES, I DO.

ONE MORE, AT LEAST. GO AHEAD IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE.

NAME AND ADDRESS. >> LANCE 1820 RIDGE LN., PONTE VEDRE, FL.

WE REALLY OPPOSE ÃYOU GUYS HAVE TO FIGHT TO KEEP ANY TYPE OF HISTORY REMAINING IN ST.

AUGUSTINE. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

IT'S THE OLDEST CITY IN AMERICA AND TO ERASE AND REMOVE STATUES IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD BY A SMALL

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THE CITY HAS OTHER PROBLEMS THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH, NOT EXPENSIVE REMOVING OF HISTORY.

THAT'S JUST MY FEELING RIGHT THERE. THIS SMALL GROUP SHOULD NOT HAVE THE UPPER HAND. IT'S ABSOLUTELY LUDICROUS WHAT'S GOING ON.

I HOPE YOU GUYS FIGHT AND KEEP ALL OF THE HISTORY. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT FEEL THAT WAY. I'M SITTING HERE WITH MY WIFE. SHE FEELS THE SAME THOUGHT.

CAN SHE SPEAK? >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> MAY TOO. CAN YOU PUT TWO PEOPLE ON THE SAME ADDRESS.

I AM STRONGLY AGAINST REMOVING ANY STATUTE FROM THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE.

IT'S A HISTORICAL TOWN WHICH IS ATTRACTING TORRES. [INDISCERNIBLE] WHO DON'T CHERISH OUR HISTORY AND ARE DESTROYING OUR HISTORY. IT'S MORE AS CAN'T SPEAK UP AND WHO CAN'T TELL BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING AND PAYING TAXES. BUT IT'S MORE OF US.

AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO REMOVE THE STATUTE YOU ARE GOING TO OPEN A WAR BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE SILENCED ANYMORE. YOU WANT TO FIGHT OUR RIGHTS AS WELL.

THESE ARE OUR RIGHTS TO KEEP OUR HISTORY FOR OUR KIDS, FOR OUR FUTURE.

WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WERE KILLED JUST CITY. IT'S PEOPLE DESTROYING THIS CITY NOW AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE KILLED. IN MY [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THANK YOU, MAN. I THINK WE HAVE SEVERAL MORE

HOLDING. >> THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS KENNETH MCLEAN, PO BOX 912 HASTINGS, FLORIDA, 32145. AND I AM CALLING CONCERNING HASTINGS DEEP CREEK JNET Ã DRAINAGE STUDY ÃJENNY AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING! IT.

I HAVE BEEN REVIEWING IT. WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO GO THROUGH WITH THE PROJECT ANTICIPATED DOING, AND IF SO, WILL CITY BE ALLOWED TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY CHANGES THAT THEY MAY HAVE? THAT'S MY CONCERN. IT WAS DONE IN JUNE 2019 AND IT'S CALLED THE HASTINGS DEEP CREEK DRAINAGE STUDY. HASTINGS IS STILL INUNDATED WITH WATER. EVERY TIME IT RAINS ÃTHE OTHER DAY WE HAD RAINFALL AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE. PART OF MY PROPERTY IS ON Ã THERE IS NO RETENTION FOR IT.

SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE HASTINGS DRAINAGE STUDY. MY NEXT COMMENT WAS IN REFERENCE TO THE CONFEDERATE MONUMENT DOWNTOWN. SOCIETY HAS MANAGED TO ERASE THE CULTURE AND THE HISTORY OF ONE RACE, WHICH IS THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN RACE AND I DON'T SEE HOW REMOVING A MONUMENT VERSUS REMOVING HISTORY WOULD EVEN TRANSPIRE. ANYWAY, THAT'S THE DAY AND TIME WE LIVE IN. IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENT, THEY CAN JOIN US AT COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS. I THINK THEY CAN REALLY BE IS ABOUT RACISM, ECONOMICS AND A

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AND MISSION OF BLOCKER. YOU HAVE A BLESSED DAY. >> WOULD YOU GIVE HIM ONE THAT

STUDY? THANK YOU. >> WE CAN ACTUALLY UPDATE HIM ON THE FUNDING IS SPENT PROCREATED THROUGH THAT ON THE LAST SEVERAL AGENDA ITEMS.

>> NAME AND ADDRESS. >> MY NAME IS ALLIE OAKLEY AT 4511 HOLLY RD., 32080.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. FIRST, I WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE OPENING.

EXACTLY WHAT I'M CALLING ABOUT CHRISTIANITY ÃWHOLE CANCEL CULTURE IS IN EFFECT RIGHT NOW.

IF YOU SAY YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR PART OF THE MEMORIAL, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY JURISDICTION. I GET THAT.

HE WAS GOING TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY?E CAN'T GET THE CITY TO HELP US, THEY WILL PUT US ON THE AGENDA, THEY SHUT ALL THE EMAILS OUT AND THEY'VE DONE EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO PUT US DOWN SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS TO BE ABLE TO GET THE WORD OUT ONLY NEED SOMEONE TO HELP US TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF TO GET HIS EVIL CULTURE OUT OF OUR TOWN. WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS WE NEED YOUR HELP, AND WE NEED A BILL SO WE CAN PROTECT THE FLORIDA MEMORIALS ALL OVER THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND WE NEED THAT PERSON TO STAND UP AND SPONSOR US AND SOME REGISTER WITH US. WE FIGURE NO ONE CAN HELP STAFF ÃWE NEED TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND IF YOU COULD REFER US TO GET AT THIS SOMEONE TO HELP GET THAT BILL PASSED IN THE LEGISLATION SO THIS WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN AND WILL HAVE MEMORIALS AND ALL CULTURES CAN HAVE MEMORIALS AND IT WILL CANCEL ONE CULTURE.

GOING BACK TO WHAT HE SAID IN THE FIRST OPEN. HE SAID A PRAYER AND PHILIP THIS IS GETTING CAREFUL AND WE ARE HERE TO STAND UP AND WE NEED HELP UPDATE FOR THOSE OF US CALLING, WE KNOW YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF THE JURISDICTION BUT AT THIS POINT SOMEONE HAS TO STAND UP AND TAKE CONTROL AND HELP US SAVE ST. AUGUSTINE. IT'S THE OLDEST CITY IN THE NATION WITH CANNOT LET THESE PEOPLE CANCEL OUR CULTURE. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING MY CALL. I'M A LITTLE UPSET BUT WE NEED HELP.

WE'VE BEEN TRYING FOR FIVE YEARS FOR THIS BILL TO GET PAST I'M HERE TO SPEAK FOR THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ON OUR SIDE THAT WE DID HELP TO GET THIS TO THE LEGISLATION SO WE CAN PROTECT THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND ALL OF OUR MEMORIALS. NOTHING WILL BE CANCELED.

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET'S ONLY NEED TO SAY.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN: NEXT CALL. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE ASK TOM REYNOLDS, 50 BRIGANTINE CT., ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH, FLORIDA, 32080.

GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN AND THANK YU FOR TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PHONE AND YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AS ALWAYS. TODAY A CALL IN TO ASK MY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR SOMETHING BIG. I NEED YOU TO PUT AN RFP OUT FOR CONCERT BY THE SEA NEXT YEAR. THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT CONCERT BY THE CR. FINDING THESE BANDS AND MAKE IT INTO A DRUNK FEST.

I KNOW IT'S PRETTY MUCH CANCEL THE REST OF THE YEAR BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IS WHAT THE 200TH BIRTHDAY, JULY 21ST OF 2021. EVER SINCE THAT'S BEEN ON MY MIND I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT LIVING IN FLORIDA'S OLDEST COUNTY.

AND NEXT YEAR I'M HOPING WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO UNDERSTANDS WHAT MUSIC IS ABOUT.

SO IF YOU WOULD, AN RFP FOR THE 2021 SUMMER SEASON, AND LET'S GET THIS, ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH

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I DON'T LIKE IT AND WILL BRING MY CHILDREN ANYWHERE NEAR THE PIER WHEN THE SUMMER CONCERT IS GOING ON. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF YOU DO AND PLEASE, A REQUEST FOR A PROPOSAL TO GET SOMEBODY WHO UNDERSTANDS MUSIC AND GET THEM IN THERE TO RUN THE

CONCERTS. THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THANK YOU, TOM. NEXT COLLAR, PLEASE. OKAY.

WE APPEAR TO BE DONE NOW WITH THE PHONE CALLS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM AUDIENCE? PUBLIC COMMENT ON THINGS NOT ON THE AGENDA? NO COMMENT. I THINK THAT COMPLETES THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSE WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD AND WE WILL GO THROUGH DELETIONS TO

[Consent Agenda]

THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANY DELETIONS? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK YOU MENTIONED THIS BUT WE WERE GOING TO MOVE THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION ITEM

>> IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS OF WHAT WILL BE A REQUEST TO MY PART FOR WHAT I WILL CALL AN ENCOURAGEMENT TO WEAR MASKS

>> IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE EXTENSION? >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: NOT THE

EXTENSION WITH COVID-19 >> WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT THE END AND THAT WILL BE FINE. ANY DELETIONS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> NO, SIR. THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND THE SECOND. >> I AM A YES AS WELL.

[Regular Agenda]

ANY DELETIONS OR ADDITIONS? >> I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONS TO A SPECIFIC ITEM OTHER THAN I DO WANT TO DISCUSS COVID-19 AND SPECIFICALLY CONTACT TRACING AGAIN.

ALSO DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OF WHAT I WILL CALL A NONMANDATORY MASK PROCLAMATION.

>> WE WILL BE GLAD TO DO THAT AT THE END. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> NO, SIR, I DO NOT. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS? ADMINISTRATION?

>> NO, SIR >> COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? >> MR. MCCORMACK: AS THE BOARD KNOWS, SATURDAY, THE BOARD DECLARED A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY PERTAINING TO THE STORM THAT MATTER, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING BACK UP. THAT COULD BE DURING COMMENT BUT THAT COULD BE AN AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU COULD ADD > PEOPLE AT THAT AS NUMBER SEVEN, THE LLC FOR THE STORM ISIAIS ISIAIS. ANYTHING ELSE?

SEE NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO AMEND AS >> I WILL MOVE TO MOVE THE TASK

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND . ANY DISCUSSION?

SEEING NONE WE WILL PROCEED WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE. >> YES

>>

[4. Public Hearing * DRI MOD 2020-02 Ashford Mills.]

MRS. SMITH, IF YOU WOULD. NOW, THIS IS EX PARTE BUT IT DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY DISCLOSURE

IF WE ARE CONSIDERING A CONTINUANCE >> IN MY OPINION, NO, BECAUSE YOU WILL HEAR THE MATTER ÃI THINK IF IT PROCEEDS TO A HEARING ON THE SUBSTANCE, AND EX PARTE WOULD BE REQUIRED AND FOR THE CONTINUOUS THAT'S AN EXECUTIVE DECISION IS NOT

QUASIJUDICIAL. >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS.

ELLEN AVERY SMITH ROGERS TOWERS, ST. AUGUSTINE. AND I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF FREEHOLD COMMUNITIES WHICH IS THE DEVELOPER OF THE SHEARWATER COMMUNITY AND IS FORMALLY KNOWN AS THE ASHWORTH MILLS DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT. WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A

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WE RECEIVED A LOT OF INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY WHICH WE WELCOME AND HAVE TRIED VALIANTLY TO RESPOND TO ALL OF THE EMAILS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED INTO MY OFFICE AND INTO MY CLIENT'S OFFICES. AND SO I THINK THERE HAS BEEN SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS OR MISCOMMUNICATION, PERHAPS, WHICH IS THE APPLICATION WHICH IS TO ALLOW THE SAME RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. THE DRI ALREADY ALLOWS MULTIFAMILY UNITS AND ALREADY INCLUDES AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVISION AND NONE OF THOSE THINGS ARE CHANGING BUT WE DO WANT SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS AND GET THEM ON THE SAME PAGE WITH FREEHOLD SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER IN THE INTERIM.> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MRS. SMITH. A REQUEST TO DO SO. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER

BLOCKER? >> NO, SIR. >> WE HAVE A REQUEST TO CONTINUE BEFORE THE BOARD AND WE WILL PROCEED WITH PUBLIC COMMENT WITHOUT REGARD TO A

CONTINUANCE. >> PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM FOR, A REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE,

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? >> I WONDER IF ALL OF THESE WONDERFUL RESIDENTS WERE AWARE IT WAS GOING TO BE CONTINUED TODAY. THEY CUT OFF FOR WHATEVER THEY HAD TO DO TODAY AND THEY ARE NOT GETTING PAID TO SIT HERE AND WE KNOW LAWYERS GET PAID TO SIT HERE AND DEVELOPERS GET PAID TO SIT HERE. I WISH THERE WAS A WAY THE RESIDENTS COULD NOW SO THAT THEY WON'T KEEP WASTING THEIR TIME, AND I HOPE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO COME BACK HERE. AND I HOPE ÃAND I THINK THIS GROUP WILL ÃPAY ATTENTION TO ALL OF THE EYES THAT ARE DOTTED AND ALL OF THE TEAMS THAT ARE CROSSED.

THESE DEVELOPERS CONTINUE TO COME HERE AND WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. YOU WILL HAVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE FIND OUT IT'S NOT UP THERE AROUND 930. I REMEMBER THAT. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE THING THAT HAPPENED, BUT THAT HAPPENED. IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT. WE ALL KNOW THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE ABOUT THE MONEY. I AM JUST REALLY PLEASED THIS MORNING THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE HERE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT BECAUSE WHENEVER WE ARE THINKING EVERYONE WE KIND OF FORGET SOMETIMES TO TACK ON RIGHT AT THE END THE RESIDENTS IN THE TAXPAYERS.

IT WOULD BE AFFECTING EVERYBODY NOT JUST A CERTAIN GROUP OR A CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. I AM SO GLAD THAT PEOPLE ARE RECOGNIZING MY PINK HAT.T JUST MAKES ME FEEL SO WONDERFUL THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING IN THIS CITY.

NOW THAT I KNOW THAT, I THINK I WILL WEAR IT TO BED, I WILL WEAR IT EVERYBODY THAT I HAVE TO GO, NOT IN THE BATHROOM. BECAUSE IT WILL GET WET AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE I WANT TO HAVE IT BACK HERE. AND I THINK SOMEONE NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE FOR HOW THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD, AND I'M GOING TO WAIT UNTIL ALL OF THE CALLS COMMEND THE NEXT TIME I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN PERSON. THESE PEOPLE KNOW THE GAME AND I'M AFRAID SOME PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE PAID TO SIT UP HERE AND WORK FOR US KNEW THE GAME TOO.

IT'S VERY DISCOURAGING TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND ANY RULES NOT APPLY.

BUT I AM SO HAPPY THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE. MY NAME IS BJ, NOT THE HOT LADY. BUT I WILL TAKE THAT AS A COMPLIMENT.

>> SHERRY BADGER, 2772 S. COLLINS AVENUE, SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA THESE PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO BE HERE TO TELL YOU HOW THEY FEEL.

POVERTY TOLD YOU THE SUPREME COURT RECOGNIZES THEM AS EXPERTS.

THIS IS A TACTIC BY DEVELOPERS WHO KNOW THEY CAN'T WIN AT THE TIME THEY ARE THERE.

THEY WILL WAIT A DAY OR TO AND I'VE SEEN IT. IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ON MY ASSISTANCE WE HAVE HURRICANE MATTHEW, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD PATRICK SAID ÃIT WAS TWO DAYS OVER THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THE MEETINGS. THESE PEOPLE TOOK THE TIME OFF

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AND YOU PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE TIME TO LISTEN TO THEM. >> WE HAVE SEVERAL ISSUES ÃAND NEVER TOLD US IT WOULD BE LOW INCOME APARTMENTS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TOWNHOMES AND SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE, SO THIS IS ÃHAS BEEN VERY MISLEADING AND INTENTIONAL BY THE DEVELOPER OR THE REPRESENTATIVE TO THE RESIDENTS.

THE OTHER THING WHEN THEY START ADDING APARTMENTS ESPECIALLY LOW INCOME, THERE'S AN AMENITY CENTER AND WE ARE AT CAPACITY. THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE ÃTHEY SHEARWATER ON 210 IS A NIGHTMARE ESPECIALLY WHEN SCHOOL STARTS BACK. WITH JUST APPROVED OR SOMEBODY APPROVED A DAYCARE CENTER AT THE ENTRANCE OF SHEARWATER TRYING TO GET OUT.

THEY DON'T HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT. THERE'S GOING TO BE FATALITIES SO I'M TOTALLY OPPOSED TO THIS AMENDMENT AS WELL AS ÃEVEN EXTENDING THE AMENDMENT.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE NO TO ADDING THESE APARTMENTS TO SHEARWATER.

>> DONALD GLOVER, 174 DALTON CIR. SHEARWATER COMMUNITY.

I'M ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION AND IT'S BEEN PUT ASIDE. HOW LONG WOULD IT BE PUT ASIDE FOR AND WITH IT BEING ANOTHER ADVERTISEMENT AND THERE ARE SIGNS OUT WHEN IT COMES UP

>> SO I WILL LET THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ADDRESS THAT >> YES.

THIS IS ÃMY UNDERSTANDING, THE REQUEST IS NOT TO CONTINUE IT TO A TIME CERTAIN WHICH WOULD UTILIZE THE ADVERTISING. THE REQUEST IS TO CONTINUE IT TO A TIME NOT CERTAIN, AND OTHER WORDS, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ASCERTAINED A TIME PERIOD. BUT WHAT THAT WOULD CAUSE AS

EVERY ADVERTISEMENT JUST AS THE FIRST TIME. >> THANK YOU.

>> RANDY LAVERY, 151 BOYLSTON COURT, ST. AUGUSTINE. PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THE CHANGES AT ASHFORD MILLS AS A PROPOSED. THEY MADE A CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY AND THE FAMILIES OF SHEARWATER FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER AND CERTAIN TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. THE PROPOSED CHANGES IS A DEVIATION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT UPON OUR PROPERTY VALUES. THERE ARE MANY NEW AND GROWING COMMUNITIES AND OUR AREA AND PEOPLE HAVE LOTS OF CHOICES. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO MOVE TO A COMMUNITY WITH THE AMENITIES CAN'T SUPPORT THE POPULATION. THE PROPOSED CHANGES HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE TO THE COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT RIGHT TO MAKE DENSITY CHANGES TO A PLANNED COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE ARE VERY BOUGHT INTO. FREEHOLD HAS BEEN IN THE BUSINESS LONG ENOUGH THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE MADE THE PLANS THEY WANTED YOU FROM THE BEGINNING RATHER THAN TRY TO CHANGE THINGS NOW. THAT'S LIKE THE OLD BAIT AND SWITCH ADS IS TO WORK OR CIRCUIT CITY. LET'S SAY IT'S SOMETHING MORE EXPENSIVE. TAKING AWAY COMMERCIAL SPACE WHICH PROVIDES SERVICES FOR THE RESIDENTS WITHOUT STRESSING THE AMENITIES WITH HOUSING THE TEST IS A LOSE, LOSE FOR RESIDENTS.

EVERYTHING THE DEVELOPER HAS REQUESTED IS AT THE INTEREST OF THE DEVELOPER, NOT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE. THERE'S NO INCREASE IN AMENITIES.

IT'S ALL KIDNEY. SO PLEASE SHOW YOU VALUE EXISTING CONTRACTS BY NOT GRANTING THIS AMENDMENT TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF UNITS, CHANGING UNITS TO MULTIFAMILY OR CHANGING COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL. IN THE AMENDMENT FOR THE PROPOSAL, IT STATES THIS NEW CATEGORY WILL PERMIT BOTH TOWNHOMES AND APARTMENTS.

SO EVEN THOUGH FREEHOLD ÃI BELIEVE THEY STATED THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN PUTTING APARTMENTS AND THEIR. THAT OPENS UP THE DOOR FOR IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE APARTMENTS, THEY WOULDN'T NEED TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION OR APPROVAL OF THAT.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH STAFF BECAUSE SAID STAFF DIDN'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THESE ITEMS SO WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THE DRESSING THEIR CONCERNS AND WE WILL WORK WITH FREEHOLD TO SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WORKS IN THE INTEREST OF EVERYBODY.

>> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY AT THIS TIME JUST REITERATE TO THE BOARD AND TO THE PUBLIC THAT THE QUESTION BEFORE THE COMMISSION RIGHT NOW IS ONLY THE QUESTION OF TO CONTINUE OR NOT TO CONTINUE. THE BOARD IS NOT HEARING THE MATTER ON THE MERITS.

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>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE THAT THOUGHT, MR. MCCORMICK, AS ONE COMMISSIONER, BUT IS A TEST. A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE TRAVELED A BIT FAR AND HAVE SAT HERE TODAY, AND I DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE ANYONE FROM SPEAKING THEIR MIND.

IT'S ONLY THREE MINUTES, SO IT'S MY POSITION THAT IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, PLEASE SHARE IT WITH US, EVEN THOUGH THIS ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA NOW TO BE CONSIDERED WHETHER OR NOT TO WITHDRAW TO SOME UNCERTAIN TIME. I WANT TO BE CLEAR IN MY POSITION. I WELCOME DEAR EVERYONE PASS MY COMMENTS.

>> LYNN MOODY, 331 DALE AVENUE, ST. AUGUSTINE, 32092. FIRSTLY, MY COMMENT IS ON THE CONTINUANCE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR RESIDENTS ARE NOT CONFUSED AS THE ATTORNEY STATES ABOUT THIS. WE UNDERSTAND IT COMPLETELY. IF IT COMES BEFORE THE SPORT AGAIN WE WILL BE HERE EVERY SINGLE TIME TO STATE WHAT WE BELIEVE IS WRONG WITH WHAT IS GOING FORWARD AND WE WILL FIGHT IT EVERY SINGLE STEP OF THE WAY.

I'M HAPPY TO SHARE MY COMMENTS AND AM HAPPY TO WAIT UNTIL IT COMES UP AGAIN BEFORE THE

BOARD. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS CHRIS GIBSON, 537 QUINTIN AARON CIR. SHEARWATER. MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED HERE FROM THE BRONX, NEW YORK CITY. WE WERE DELIGHTED WITH WHAT WE SAW IN SHEARWATER.

WE BUILT OUR HOME AND WE ARE VERY HAPPY. HAD WE HAD NO THERE WAS GOING TO BE APARTMENTS AND LOWER INCOME HOUSING BUILT IN SHEARWATER WE WOULD HAVE NEVER HAVE CHOSEN SHEARWATER. WE MIGHT HAVE EVEN JUST STAYED IN NEW YORK CITY.

SO PLEASE. WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE AS OFTEN AS WE NEED TO BE HERE TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT'S GOING ON. WE DIDN'T MOVE TO FLORIDA TO SEE THIS HAPPEN IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A

GOOD DAY. >> MY NAME IS ANNA RYAN 324 BEALE AVENUE.

I JUST WANTED TO READ THE PHILOSOPHY OF FREEHOLD. AT FREEHOLD WE BELIEVE THE COMMUNITY IS MORE THAN A GROUP IT'S THE FELLOWSHIP BETWEEN NEIGHBORS, A SHARED INTEREST IN CREATING THE BEST POSSIBLE LIFESTYLE FOR RESIDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES.

WITH THIS IN MIND WE SET OUT TO BUILD COMMUNITIES DIFFERENTLY FROM OTHERS BY FOCUSING ON THE WANTS OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. WE MADE OUR DECISION TO BUY A HOME IN SHEARWATER BECAUSE WE BELIEVE FREEHOLD SET OUT TO BUILD COMMUNITIES DIFFERENTLY FROM OTHERS, COMPRISING A SINGLE-FAMILY TOWNHOMES. ALTHOUGH THERE IS THE FELLOWSHIP BETWEEN NEIGHBORS IN OUR COMMUNITY, FREEHOLD HAS NOW CHOSEN NOT TO BUILD THE BEST POSSIBLE LIFESTYLE FOR THE FAMILIES. THEY HAVE NOT ONLY CHANGED THE WORDING TO MULTIFAMILY BUT ALSO TO INCREASE THE NUMBER FROM 760 TO 785 INSTEAD OF INCREASING THE NUMBER OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, WHICH ARE INTIMATE AND OUR COMMUNITY.

OUR COMMUNITY WAS TOLD THE ANNUAL MEETING THAT FREEHOLD HAS NO PLANS TO INCREASE OUR AMENITIES WHICH AT PRESENT ONLY ACCOMMODATE ABOUT EIGHT PERCENT OF THE NEIGHBORS.

THE FAMILY HOUSING WILL NOT ONLY OVERBURDEN OUR AMENITIES BUT BE POPULATED BY RENTERS WHO HAVE NO VESTED INTEREST IN OUR COMMUNITY. I DON'T FEEL THAT FREEHOLD IS, QUOTE, FOCUSING ON THE WANTS OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING HERE. PLEASE CONSIDER VOTING AGAINST IT OR AT LEAST AMENDING THE LANGUAGE TO SINGLE-FAMILY AND TOWNHOMES ONLY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS DAVID COOK.

49 QUINTIN AARON CIR., SHEARWATER. I JUST WANTED TO ÃEVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY SAID, IT WAS SOMETHING I WAS GOING TO SAY. I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN FREEHOLD AND SHEARWATER RESIDENTS HAVE NOT BEEN STELLAR.

IT'S NOT BEEN GOOD AT ALL. WE DON'T KNOW ÃIF IT WASN'T FOR THE HARD WORK OF FOUR OR FIVE OF OUR RESIDENTS WE WOULD NOT KNOW ANYTHING. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT. IT'S BEEN FRUSTRATING, AND AS A

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IF YOU DON'T GET THE GOOD REASON, YOU START TO LOSE TRUST AND IF YOU LOSE TRUST IS WORRIED. YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR HOME AND YOUR INVESTMENTS AND YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR FUTURE. IF IT GETS BAD WE ARE ALL GOING TO LEAVE AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE AN EMPTY NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU DON'T WANT THAT AND WE DON'T WANT THAT.

WE WANT TO STAY ÃMOST OF US ARE RETIRED AND WE WENT TO LIVE FOREVER.

AND THAT'S WHY WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE. THAT'S OUR FOREVER HOUSE.

BUT IF THIS GOES BAD, IT'S GOING TO BE BAD FOR EVERYONE. >> MY NAME IS DARRELL BOYKO.

RIVER CLIFF TRL., ST. AUGUSTINE. IN SHEARWATER.

AND I AM HERE TODAY BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY UPSETTING THING THAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ATTORNEY FOR ASHFORD MILLS UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NO MISUNDERSTANDING. THERE WAS NO MENTION WHEN I CAME TO FLORIDA IN JULY OF 2018 ABOUT ANY APARTMENTS OR ANYTHING.

I SPECIFICALLY ASKED AT THE HUB WHICH IS THERE COMMUNITY AS THIS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME COMMUNITY? AND I WAS ASSURED, YES, IT IS. I WAS TOLD HOW MANY HOMES ARE GOING TO BE FELT AND I FELT COMFORTABLE MOVING DOWN FROM NEW JERSEY WHICH IS VERY OVERCROWDED, LOADED WITH APARTMENTS AND LOW INCOME HOUSING.

I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THE CHANGES THAT ARE ON SITE COMING UP. IF THIS WAS IN A CHANGE TO 2014 AND WHEN I WAS HERE I SHOULD'VE BEEN TOLD THAT, THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY OF APARTMENTS OR TOWNHOUSES AND I FEEL THAT'S DECEPTIVE AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AT THE TIME IF I WAS TOLD YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE TOWNHOUSES, APARTMENTS, MULTI-FAMILIES OR WHATEVER.

I WOULD NOT HAVE MOVED TO SHEARWATER. I NOT ONLY MOVED TO SHEARWATER BUT I MOVED MY DAUGHTER, MY THREE GRANDDAUGHTERS AND MY SON-IN-LAW.

WE ALL LIVE IN SHEARWATER AND THIS IS A PLACE THAT WE WENT TO BRING THEM TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR A GREAT SCHOOL SYSTEM AND GREAT QUALITY OF LIFE.

I'M AFRAID IF THIS IS ALLOWED TO GO THROUGH ANY FUTURE IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE QUALITY OF LIFE. I WANT TO SEE MY GRANDCHILDREN BE ABLE TO GET ON THEIR BIKES AND RIDE AROUND THE COMMUNITY. WHAT I HAD WHEN I WAS GROWING UP IN THE 60S AND 70S. I WAS SAFE AND I COULD RIDE MY BIKE AND HAVE MY FRIENDS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT WON'T HAPPEN IF THIS IS ALLOWED. RENTERS WILL HAVE THE SAME

VESTED INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY AS OWNERS. >> ASHLEY SUMMERS AND WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION OFF OF BLUEBONNET LN. IN SHEARWATER.

THIS WAS NOT IN THE PLANS AND NOT HOW ÃACTIVITIES HERE, ACTIVITIES THERE AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SEEING. THE ONLY WAY I FOUND OUT WAS THROUGH THE FACEBOOK GROUP THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF MY AGE AND, OF COURSE, THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY.

I HAD NO CLUE SEEING AN ORANGE SIGN HONESTLY MEANT NOTHING ND NOT JUST ÃTHAT'S JUST BECAUSE OF MY AGE AND NOT ACCEPTING THAT. BUT IT'S NOT WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING HAD OUR SELLERS AND BUILDERS TOLD US APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO GO IN WE PROBABLY WOULD BE THERE AND MEETING NEW CONSTRUCTION, I CAN PULL OUT AND LOSE A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS AND BE OKAY WITH THAT. APARTMENTS WAS NOT PART OF THE DEAL OR NOT WILL BE EXPECTED AS A YOUNG HOMEOWNER, I PROJECTED TO SEE MYSELF MAYBE HAVING KIDS THERE AND GROWING UP AND STARTING A FAMILY AND INVITING PEOPLE OVER AND BEING MY AGE, I HAVE FRIENDS WHO ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR HOMES AND APARTMENTS GOING, IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WOULD REFER THEM TO BUILD AND SHEARWATER, SO TO HAVE THIS BE A PART OF EVEN THE AGENDA AND TRYING TO CONTINUE WITH THIS IS UNFORTUNATE AND SAD AND I LOVE THE COMMUNITY AND IF THIS CONTINUES I WILL STILL SHOW UP AS A NEW HOME BUYER. THANK YOU.

>> MY NAME IS MARK LAWRENSON 384 RIVER CLIFF TRAIL IN SHEARWATER AND I AM HERE TO BRING TO YOU MY INTENTION TO OBJECT TO BRINGING THE MULTIFAMILY HOMES INTO SHEARWATER. AS MANY OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BROUGHT UP, THIS WAS

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THERE WAS AN OBJECTION BEFORE ABOUT ÃTHIS IS ABOUT A CONTINUANCE.

THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION BY THE DEVELOPER TO THE OTHER MEETINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED AND HAVE VOTED ON IS WHY WE ARE ALL HERE VOICING OUR OPINION ON WHAT IS HAPPENING.

THERE IS A BIT FULL OF PEOPLE OUT THERE AND I WAS IN THERE, AND I HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME IN HERE AND SPEAK TO YOU TO VOICE MY CONCERNS. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THERE ARE SEVERAL MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE. AND ALSO, THIS CHANGE WILL ONLY DRIVE THE PROPERTY VALUE AS IT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED ALREADY. THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT EVERY FAMILY AND THERE, NOT ONLY THAT, IT WILL EVENTUALLY DRIVE UP THE CRIME RATE AS WELL AS IT HAS IN DUBOIS COUNTY AND EVERYWHERE ELSE THAT THIS HAS OCCURRED.

SO I URGE YOU TO STOP THIS DEAD IN ITS TRACKS AND REVERSE THIS AND LOOK OUT FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND NOT A CORPORATION LOOKING TO TURN A PROFIT. AND NOT ONLY THAT, GOING BACK TO THE COMMUNICATION, THE REPORT, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEETINGS TO THIS TOPIC, I URGE THIS COMMITTEE TO FIND A BETTER WAY OF COMMUNICATING.

THERE WAS MORE COMMUNICATION AROUND A VIRTUAL 5K THAN I WAS ABOUT THESE MEETINGS.

THERE ARE TWO ORANGE SIGNS AND OUR COMMUNITY. WHEN COMING IN AT ONE COMING OUT. THE ONLY REASON I KNOW THAT AS YESTERDAY IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE. I'M NOT ON FACEBOOK OR SOCIAL MEDIA.

I DON'T GET A NEWSPAPER. HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION? I'M FROM NEW YORK AND ONE OF THE REASONS I CAME DOWN HERE IS BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS, BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF ALL THAT IS GOING TO BE STRIPPED AWAY, I'M NOT GOING TO LIVE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY ANYMORE, AND THAT'S HOW A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL.

AND WE NEED TO PROTECT WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE, STRONG SCHOOL SYSTEMS, A SAFE COMMUNITY, AND STRONG PROPERTY VALUE. VOTING YES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROPOSAL OF MULTIFAMILY HOMES WHICH HAS BEEN INACCURATELY DESCRIBED IN THE BEGINNING THAT IT WAS ALREADY GOING TO BE THERE, I THINK I READ IT WAS 50. I NEED TO PUSH THAT TO 300.

>> MY NAME IS FRANK MURPHY AT 247 DALTON CIR., 32092 IN SHEARWATER.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS WERE GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE OUR CONCERNS EVEN THOUGH THIS IS GOING TO BE CONTINUED. THANK YU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME. I AM VERY HAPPY TO BE A RESIDENT IN SHEARWATER AND TO SEE THE TYPE OF SUPPORT THE RESIDENTS ARE GIVING TO THE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US. I DO THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR EYES OPEN AND THESE THINGS ARE ANNOUNCED. THEY ARE NOT BLASTED. YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR EYES OPEN AND WE HAVE TO TALK TO EACH OTHER. WE HAVE TO COMMUNICATE.

ALSO FOR THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED, THE TROPIC WE Ã CREEK COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS HAVING THEIR MONTHLY BOARD MEETING THIS AFTERNOON AT 3:00.

I HAVE THE INFORMATION. IT'S A PHONE IN, AS A CONFERENCE CALL, NOT AN IN PERSON MEETING. ANYBODY INTERESTED IN CALLING AND SEE ME AFTER THE MEETING HERE. WE CAN VOICE OUR CONCERNS DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE

ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE,

MA'AM. >> MY NAME IS JUDY, 114 EARL CREST COURT I LIVE IN SHEARWATER. MY HUSBAND WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE TODAY ALSO BUT HE HAD TO WORK.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SO ELOQUENTLY SAID SO FAR.

NONE OF THIS WAS DISCLOSED TO US BEFORE BROUGHT IN SHEARWATER.

WE MOVED HERE FROM CALIFORNIA TO BE WITH OUR FAMILY WHO WAS ALREADY HERE IN FLORIDA AND WE MOVED TO SHEARWATER BECAUSE IT'S A QUIET, VERY PEACEFUL COMMUNITY, MUCH DIFFERENT FROM WHERE WE LIVED IN CALIFORNIA. WE WOULD NEVER HAVE PURCHASED IN SHEARWATER HAD WE KNOWN

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AND WE WILL, IF ÃTHE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO, WE MOVED HERE TO STAY HERE.

I AM 70 YEARS OLD. WE PLANNED TO LIVE THERE AND DIE THERE, BUT IF THIS COMES ABOUT, WE WILL MOVE. WE WILL PROBABLY LEAVE JACKSONVILLE.

SO I HOPE THAT YOU WILL LISTEN. THERE ARE TONS OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE COME TOGETHER BECAUSE WE OPPOSE THIS SO VEHEMENTLY. AND WE HOPE WE HAVE BEEN ÃWE THINK WE HAVE BEEN TRICKED. IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY. THE DEVELOPERS ARE ALL ABOUT MONEY. WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY, SO I HOPE YOU WILL LISTEN TO US. THOSE WHO HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO COME HERE, THOSE WHO COULD NOT GET IN AND THOSE ON THE PHONE BECAUSE WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THIS.

>> MY NAME IS MICHELLE AND I LIVE AT THREE 40 PALISADE DRIVE.

WE ARE HERE AND AS EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SPOKEN, WE ALL HAVE THE SAME CONCERN.

I BELIEVE THIS CONTINUANCE IS JUST A WAY TO PUSH SOMETHING ELSE UNDER THE CARPET IN FRONT OF US. WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON THANKS TO OUR FACEBOOK GROUPS AND THE DILIGENT WORK OF THE MEMBERS TO BRING ALL OF THIS TO LIGHT.

THE PAST MEETINGS THAT WERE HOT WITHOUT ANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD INVOLVEMENT IS WHAT'S GOING TO ÃWHAT WE BELIEVE IS GOING TO TRY TO HAPPEN WITH THIS CONTINUANCE.

I BELIEVE THAT FREEHOLD IS GOING TO TRY TO COMMIT AND GET OUR APPROVAL.

THEY ARE GOING TO TRY AND THROW IT ON US AS IF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION IN THE PAST. BASKETBALL HOOPS AND THEY SAY THIS IS THE LAW OF THE LAND AND TOO BAD, SO SAD. THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS CONTINUANCE. THEY ARE JUST GOING TO SAY THIS PIS IT AND THAT'S TOO BAD AND YOU WILL LOSE THE RESIDENTS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. A VERY NICE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR HOMES AND THE VALUES ARE GOING TO DROP. IT'S VERY SAD THIS WOULD TRY AND BE BROUGHT TO US AND WE'VE BEEN THERE ALMOST 4 YEARS. NONE OF THIS WAS EVER BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. NOW ALL OF THIS IS VERY SAD. IT'S SAD THAT THEY WOULD DO

THIS TO SUCH A GREAT COMMUNITY. >> GOOD MORNING. I AM DEXTER MACQUARIE I MADE 244 APPIAN AVENUE SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, 32092 IN THE SHEARWATER COMMUNITY.

I WANT TO FIRST THANK COMMISSIONER DEAN TO LET US SPEAK BUT WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND OF COURSE, OURSELVES.

WHEN TWO EQUITIES OF THOSE WHO HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE ME. I'M VERY GLAD THEY ARE HERE TO SUPPORT AND THE ONLY THINGS I REALLY HAVE TO ADD AS I WILL BE HERE AS LONG AS IT TAKES FOR THE NEXT MEETINGS TO MAKE SURE THIS DOES NOT AND NUMBER TWO, WHEN WE FOUGHT IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, WE WERE SPECIFICALLY TOLD BY OUR BUILDER ÃWE ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ZONING AND ENTRY POINTS AND STOPLIGHTS, ABOUT COMMUNITY HOUSING AND WE WERE SPECIFICALLY TOLD BY THAT AGENT THERE WOULD BE NO APARTMENTS OR LOW INCOME THERE WOULD BE FOUR-LANE SOONER THAN LATER AND WE WOULD HAVE TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND AN ADDITIONAL EXIT AND THERE WOULD BE NO MORE COMMUNITY UNITS, SINGLE-FAMILY OR MULTIPURPOSE ÃMULTIUNIT FAMILY APPROVED. VERY CONFIDENT IN THE DECISION TO MOVE TO SHEARWATER WE WANTED TO SAY THAT THEY WERE THE HIGH SCHOOL WAS AND WE WERE TOLD ALL OF THESE THINGS BY OUR BUILDER.

WE WERE VERY PLEASED WITH THAT SITUATION. WE HAD A LOT OF OPTIONS.

MANY COMMUNITIES GOING UP AND WE ARE HAPPY TO BE IN SHEARWATER AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO STAY IN SHEARWATER BUT WE WILL MOVE IF CONDITIONS CHANGE AS IT IS ON THE BOOKS DOWN THE REST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US AND THERE ARE TONS OF PEOPLE HERE PRESENT AND VIRTUALLY REPRESENTING SHEARWATER.

SHEARWATER IS A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD >> NAME AND ADDRESS

>> [INDISCERNIBLE]. SHEARWATER IS A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY TO LIVE IN.

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SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> I AM JUST DANCE 145 RIVER TRL. AND ST. AUGUSTINE IN SHEARWATER AND WANT TO ECHO EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID IN OPPOSITION AND I WANT TO CALL THEM AFTER THEY BEEN NOTHING BUT CONDESCENDING WITH A MIC THAT MY BALL ATTITUDE. I TOTALLY SUPPORT ALL OF MY FELLOW RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> I HEAR TO ECHO EVERYTHING PTHEY SAID I WANT YOU TO KNOW, BUT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MY FOREVER HOME. YOU PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO TO MAKE IT MY. I HAVE MADE THE MOST AMAZING GROUP OF FRIENDS AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY DO NOT DESERVE THE SPIRIT TO BE ABLE TO GO OUTSIDE AND RIDE OUR BICYCLES OR COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER ANY ONE OF YOU OR EVEN THE DEVELOPERS WENT TO LIVE IN THE SITUATION THEY WERE NOT TOLD THE TRUTH ABOUT HIM PLEASE KEEP THIS ALL IN MIND

AND THANK YOU. >> I WANT TO SAY, I KNOW YOU ONLY HAVE TO POST THE ORANGE LINES AND THAT'S ALL YOU ARE REQUIRED TO DO. THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY TO NOTIFY WHEN THERE IS A BIG CHANGE IN NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE OURS AND PUTTING THESE ORANGE SIGNS BECAUSE BACK IN MAY WHEN THE INCREASE THE NUMBER OF UNITS ÃNONE OF THE NUMBERS.

ÃTHAT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PANDEMIC. THERE WAS A SIGN AND I CALLED UP AND SOMEBODY ON THE PHONE FOR ME THE WRONG INFORMATION I CALL THEN AND THERE IS A MEETING AND NOW HERE IS ANOTHER MEETING AND THANK GOD FOR OUR FACEBOOK PAGE.

IT TOOK CONSTANT CALLS TO THE COMMISSIONER TO GET WHAT WAS REALLY HAPPENING TO GET ALL OF US TO COME HERE TO FIGHT IT. BUT IF ONE PERSON EVER DID THAT WE WOULD NEVER KNOW IN THIS NEXT THING WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED. I AM WORRIED THE NEXT TIME THE CONTINUED THEY WON'T NOTIFY US. THERE HAS TO BE A RUNAWAY TO GET US INVOLVED IN LET US DECIDE OUR FATE AND OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU FOR LETTING US

VENT. >> MY NAME IS JOSEPH WARNER. I LIVE AT 354: AIR CIR. IN SHEARWATER. I LIVED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND PAY TAXES HERE FOR OVER 50 YEARS. I HAVE SEEN MANY MEETINGS LIKE THIS.

I HAVE SEEN YOUR GRANDFATHERS AND YOUR FATHERS AND OURSELVES HERE AS COUNCILMAN.

JUST WANT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COUNTY COMMISSION DO THE RIGHT THING AND VOTE IN FAVOR

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ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? SIR? >> RICHARD WRIGHT, 353 RIVER CLIFF TRL. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR MY COMMENTS.

BALANCE AND TRUST ARE CRITICAL THINGS IN ANY DEVELOPMENT. I WILL NOT ECHO ALL MY PEERS THAT HAVE CENTERPIECE BUT I WILL ECHO THIS WHICH IS MOST DISCONCERTING.

THE CURRENT BUSINESS PLAN ANTICIPATES THE ATTACHED HOMES WOULD BE FEASIBLE OWNERSHIPS SIMILAR TO THE CURRENT TOWNHOMES, NEW APARTMENT UNITS AS SEEN IN BEACH WALK AND TECHNOLOGY. THE FOLLOWING IS SENT OUT BY THE DEVELOPMENT VIA THE SHEARWATER ÃVIA EMAIL ON JULY 27. SO THE CURRENT WORDING OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN WHAT IS BEING CONTINUED AS TWO SEPARATE THINGS.

SO I WOULD JUST ASK A MUTUAL AGREEMENT OF ALL PARTIES TO GET IT RIGHT.

LET'S LET EVERYBODY PROSPER, LET'S LET EVERYBODY BENEFIT AND MUST CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THIS

WONDERFUL COUNTY. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE TO DIOCESE APPEARS IF ANY OTHERS IN THE QUEUE

LINE, >> JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ÃWE SHARE THE SAME SENTIMENT. WE DON'T WANT.

I WILL MAKE THIS QUICK. DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND HELP US. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THANK YOU, SIR. WE HAVE SEVERAL, APPARENTLY ON

THE PHONE. HIM AND ADDRESS, PLEASE >> WILLIAM, 671 LINEAR CIR., ST.

AUGUSTINE, FL, 32092. >> I WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD SAYING I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE DEVELOPERS PLAN TO PUT LOW INCOME HOUSING, SMALL HOUSES AND APARTMENTS IN THE SHEARWATER NEIGHBORHOOD IN SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. I DID NOT BUY INTO A LOW INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD FAMILY BECAUSE MACOMB IS THE LARGEST ASSET WE HAVE THIS IS A PLANNED COMMUNITY. YOU CAN'T COME IN AND CHANGE THE PLAN NOW.

WE DON'T WANT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO TURN INTO LOW INCOME SECTION 8 HOUSING APARTMENTS.

BECAUSE GOING TO DROP THE VALUE OF OUR HOUSES, AND IT'S GOING TO BRING CRIME INTO THE AREA IT'S BEEN REVERSED, THE BIDEN ERA, OBAMA BIDEN AREA. THAT WAS TO BRING LOW INCOME HOUSING INTO THE SUBURBS. IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS.

AMENITIES WILL BE OVERBURDENED. WE ALREADY PAY FOR THESE AMENITIES WHICH ARE OVERCROWDED AS IT IS. TRAFFIC ON, WHICH IS HIGHWAY GOING THROUGH THE FRONT OF Ã OUR OWN EGRESS AND INGRESS TO THE AREA IS ALREADY OVERCROWDED.

THEY ARE PUTTING IN SCHOOLS. WE'VE GOT TOO MUCH TRAFFIC FROM THE SCHOOL BUSES.

THEY DIDN'T PLAN TO DO THAT RIGHT. TRY TO RUIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE CREATIVE. I GREW UP IN LOS ANGELES IN THE SUMMER.

I LEFT IN 2011 TO ESCAPE THE INFLUX OF LOW INCOME HOUSING PROJECTS.

ALONG WITH BACK PAIN CRIME, TRAFFIC, OVERCROWDING AND IT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO ENJOY THE AMERICAN DREAM. RAISING YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN IN A SAFE

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THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.EXT

CALLERS >> NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. >> CHRISTOPHER ASHFORD.

ADDRESS 146 LINDIMENT DOCTOR, ST. AUGUSTINE, 32092. >> I JUST WANTED TO GO ON RECORD AND SAY I AM AGAINST THIS APARTMENT REZONING THING THEY ARE TRYING TO PUSH OVER AT SHEARWATER. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE NEVER TOLD ABOUT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING TO BUY. AND I FEEL YOU DON'T PUT A $0.99 STORE OR A DOLLAR TREE NEXT TO A NEIMAN MARCUS AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHAT'S KIND OF GOING ON.

MOST OF THE HOMEOWNERS WERE NOT AWARE OF THIS PROPOSAL, AND I FEEL LIKE THEY KIND OF DID THE PROPOSAL BACK IN FEBRUARY UNDER THE COVER OF THE WHOLE COVID CRISIS SO NOBODY WAS REALLY PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS ON LOCKDOWN AND WE WERE KIND OF BLINDSIDED BY THIS. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY AM COMPLETELY AGAINST IT AND THAT BASICALLY THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY FOR IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THANK YOU. THE NEXT COLLAR, PLEASE?

GO AHEAD. NAME AND ADDRESS. >> ERICA ABLE, 447 LINEAR CIR.

IN SHEARWATER. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK YOU KNOW I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE. I WANT TO ADDRESS WHAT THE ATTORNEY GOT UP AND STATED THAT THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION PERHAPS ON THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE MY PART IS THAT'S GOING TO STAY THE SAME. WE ARE NOT CONFUSED.

AS A COMMUNITY, WE FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MODIFICATION IS FOR.

IN FACT, I HAVE AN APPLICATION SUMMARY IN FRONT OF ME ÃAND THE OTHER CALLS CAN

>> WESLEY, 123 RIVER CLIFF TRL., ST. AUGUSTINE AND A RESIDENT OF SHEARWATER CALLING TO REQUEST. I BELIEVE THEY'VE HAD PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY THEIR INTENTIONS TO THE RESIDENCE AND I'M CONCERNED THE REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE IS TO MINIMIZE THE OPPOSITION IN ORDER TO PURSUE THEIR INTERESTS. IF A CONTINUANCE IS DENIED I WOULD LIKE TO OPPOSE THE REQUEST TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF MULTIFAMILY AND

CHILLER.THANK YOU. >> CALLED. >> LEE MANN ADDRESS PLEASE

>> TOM REYNOLDS. GOOD MORNING AGAIN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND GOOD MORNING TO ALL OF THE [INDISCERNIBLE] AND THE AUDIENCE. WHEN I HEAR ÃFIRST OF ALL AND FOR THE CONTINUANCE. I'M 100 PERCENT FOR THE CONTINUANCE BUT WHEN I HEAR SOMEBODY AND I THINK I'VE HEARD THREE PEOPLE SAY SOMETHING ABOUT RENTERS I'M GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING. I'M FOR THIS MORE THAN EVER. WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE THINKING BY SAYING RENTERS ARE GOING TO BRING A NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN? SHAME ON A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM.

I CANNOT BELIEVE IT. IS THERE ANY CHURCHES WERE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE LIVE? THEY DON'T WANT ANY RENTERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE AND BRING THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN. MAKE SURE THEY ALL KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO SELL THEIR HOMES AND MOVE THEY CAN. THEY DON'T NEED TO BE KIND OF THREATENING.

95 NORTH 10 W. BECAUSE LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, WE NEED A LOT OF APARTMENTS IN THIS

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WHEN THE TICKET OFFICE PHONE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, GOD IS WATCHING EVERYONE AND WE ARE ALL BEING TESTED. YOU MIGHT WANT TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THIS HE IS IN FRONT OF THE FURNACE DOOR TO HELL. SHAME ON THEM.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. >> ANY OTHER CALLS? GO AHEAD.

NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN MR. VICE CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. ED SLAVEN, ED SLAVIN.COM AND MY SHORT ANSWER IS YOU SHOULD DENY THE CONTINUANCE AND DENY THE APPLICATION, BUT THE DISCUSSION WE JUST HEARD IT RAISES SOME ISSUES ABOUT DISCRIMINATION AND HOW TO TREAT PEOPLE RIGHT. AND THESE NEIGHBORS HAVE NOT BEEN TREATED RIGHT SOME OTHER ARGUMENTS I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH, AND I THINK MR. REYNOLDS MADE A GOOD POINT ABOUT BIGOTRY AND SELFISHNESS.IN THIS PARTICUAR INTEREST I THINK YOU HAVE TO DENY THE APPLICATION AND I THINK YOU ARE FIXING TO AND THAT'S WHY THE DEVELOPER WAS GOING TO WITHDRAW. HARKENING BACK TO 2016, THIS COMMISSION ÃI THINK THEY ILLEGALLY DELETED 40 ACRES FROM NAZI FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THAT'S BECAUSE MARTY FIORENTINO, THE LOBBYIST FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND SHERIFF SHOAR AND NOT AT THE END THE PART GROUP AND JDA AND THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE AND THESE DEVELOPERS WENT TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND SAID WE DON'T WANT TO DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND AUTHORITY.

THE SUPREME COURT HAS REPEATEDLY RULED AGAINST SNOB ZONING AND AS THE EIGHTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS ONCE SAID IN A CASE CALLED UNITED STATES VERSUS CITY OF BLACKJACK, THE COURTS LOOK AT THE FACTS ÃLOOK AT THE FACTS AND NOT INTENT BECAUSE THEY CAN HINDER MOTIVATIONS. YOU ALL TO EVEN HIDE YOUR MOTIVATION FOR ANOXIA AND NOT WAS A SIN AND A CRIME AND A TORT. WE NEED TO LOOK AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I HAVE SUGGESTED TO YOU REPEATEDLY A CURRENT PATCH OF GOVERNMENT OWNED LAND ON HOLMES BOULEVARD IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY ORDERING THAT PLACE FOR THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE DUMPED A LANDFILL AND A LAKE BACK IN 05, THERE WAS FINALLY AN REMEDIAL ORDER AND THAT MATERIAL IS NOW ÃTHE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE DUMPED ILLEGALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED CRIMINALLY YOU COULD PUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING THERE ON CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE OWNED PROPERTY IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY SURROUNDING THE LAKE THAT'S BEEN RESTORED.

IT'S GOT GOOD BASS FISHING BE A GREAT PLACE FOR A SCULPTURE GARDEN AND NOBODY HAS EVER TAKEN UP MY SUGGESTION OF USING THE OLD CITY CHANGE THERE IS GENERAL RIGHTS UNDER IT OWNED BY THE MOSAIC COMPANY MINERALS HAVE BEEN EXHAUSTED IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AFTER MARY SHAVER HAD HER STROKE AND MERIT OF CHURCH PAYMENT HAS NOT WORKED A LAKE TO WORK THAT JOB.

COULD YOU PLEASE PROMISE ME YOU WILL PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA? LET'S WORK FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSINGAND JUSTICE FOR ALL AND BY THE WAY MY DAD IN 1968 WAS TOLD BY THE NAACP WAS ONLY REALTOR IN SOUTH JERSEY AND THEY SAID CONGRATULATIONS. WE NEED MORE REALTORS WERE NOT DISCRIMINATORY AND ACCOUNTING NEEDS TO STOP VIOLATING THE FAIR HOUSING ACT BECAUSE YOU COULD BE PROSECUTED UNDER THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION AND I THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU ED. NEXT COLLAR? WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE.

NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE >> GOOD MORNING. I AM LAURA LEE QUINN AT 88 POWER CORD IN SHEARWATER. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THIS.

I THINK THIS REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE IS A TACTIC TO DELAY AND OBFUSCATE THIS ISSUE.

THEY ARE HOPING TO FLIP IT THROUGH LATER AFTER THIS INITIAL UPROAR DIES DOWN.

THEY DID NOT ANTICIPATE THIS RESPONSE SO THIS IS THEIR WAY TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET IT THROUGH WHEN WE ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I WORKED IN THIS INDUSTRY. AFFORDABLE HOUSING ÃTHERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO BUILD AND DEVELOP AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE HAVE ALREADY MADE OUR PURCHASE DECISION TO BUY. THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT.

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THIS REQUEST MAY BE DENIED AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS TODAY.

THANK YOU. >> NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. >> MY NAME IS LISA HILL AND I LIVE AT 329, C HILL DRIVE AND ST. AUGUSTINE. I AM CALLING ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER FOUR WITH THE MODIFICATION TO ASHFORD MILLS.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONTINUANCE HAS BEEN ASKED FOR. I WOULD ASK THE BOARD MEMBERS TO SAY NO TO THE CONTINUANCE AND IF IT IS DECLINED I WOULD ASK YOU TO SAY NO TO THE AMENDMENT TO ALLOW APARTMENTS AND THE WORDING TO SAY APARTMENTS AND THAT ALSO TAKES AWAY FROM ÃTHEY WANT TO REALLOCATE COMMERCIAL SPACE TO HOMES.

I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD SAY NO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR

CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU. >> NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> THIS IS ERICA ABLE. MY INITIAL CALLBACK WAS DISCONNECTED.

WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY WAS THE ATTORNEY THAT INITIALLY SPOKE IS THAT THERE WASN'T GOING TO BE A NUMBER OF INCREASE BUT I HAVE THE APPLICATION SUMMARY DATED JULY 13 OF 2020 WHICH STATES THAT THE MODIFICATION INCREASES THE TOTAL NUMBER OF MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS FROM 716 TO 785. AGAIN, I AM DEFINITELY NOT IN THE POSITION TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF HOUSINGS WHETHER MULTIFAMILY OR OTHERWISE.

ADDITIONALLY THE REVISION OR REQUEST CONDOMINIUM TOWNHOUSE VERBIAGE I AM ALSO IN OPPOSITION. CHANGING THAT LANGUAGE FOR MULTIFAMILY ALLOWS THE DEVELOPERS TO PUT IN APARTMENTS AND WHILE WE'VE BEEN GETTING ASSURANCES THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN, I WOULD NOT [INDISCERNIBLE] HANG MY HAT ON THAT AND DO NOT WANT THE VERBIAGE CHANGED AND I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT AS CONDOMINIUMS AND TOWN HOMES.

APARTMENTS CANNOT BE BUILT AND I THINK A COUPLE OF MY OTHER NEIGHBORS HAVE MENTIONED THAT AS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STANDS TODAY, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH INFRASTRUCTURE IN TERMS OF OUR AMENITIES TO CONTINUE TO WITHSTAND THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH AND THE CONTINUAL INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF HOMES BEING BUILT AND CHANGED VIA THESE MODIFICATIONS.

THEY HAVE NO PLANS TO PUT IN AN ADDITIONAL POOL OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF FACILITY, PARKS OR OTHERWISE FOR THE NUMBER OF KIDS GOING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE ALREADY HAVE ÃWE ARE CLOSE TO BEING OVERCROWDED AND OUR CURRENT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND OTHER SURROUNDING SCHOOLS AS WELL. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE, I DON'T THINK A CONTINUANCE IS GOING TO BE HELPFUL. WE DON'T FEEL AS THOUGH FREEHOLD HAS OUR BEST INTEREST IN MIND AND I THINK ANOTHER ONE OF MY NAVAL MENTIONED SHE WAS A DEVELOPER AND THEY WERE VERY CONDESCENDING IF THAT HELPS YOU CAN EXTEND IT SAVING HERE MORE OF OUR OPPOSITION FROM OTHER NEIGHBORS I AM IN FAVOR OF IT BUT I HOPE ÃI HOPE THAT YOU TAKE ALL OF THESE COMMENTS FROM ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS IN SHEARWATER TO HEART AND UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY OR THE COMMUNITY THAT MANY OF OUR HOTSPOTS FALL INTO FOR THE LONG TERM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >> HELLO? >> NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

>> I AM APRIL CLAY AND THE ADDRESS IS 80 DAYS CT., CLEARWATER, 32092.

>> SO MY SETTLEMENT IS IN LINE WITH MY NEIGHBORS AS WELL. I JUST CLOSED ON MY HOME MAY 15 OF THIS YEAR, AND I WILL DO LITTLE IN THE NUMBER OF YEARS AND MOVED OUT TO SHEARWATER

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ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERN IS BRINGING IN CRIME THAT IS NOT WHY ÃI WOULD NOT HAVE PURCHASED THE HOME I SIGNED THE CONTRACT I SPECIFICALLY ASKED WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE APARTMENTS, TOWNHOMES, HOW MANY VERSUS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AND I WAS REASSURED I WOULD NOT BE APARTMENTS FOR RENT FOR LOW INCOME APARTMENTS THERE THAT PWAS ONE OF THE BUYING DECISION THAT I MADE AND HAD I KNOWN THIS WOULD BE A DEVELOPERS PLAN I WOULD NOT HAVE PURCHASED MY HOME, AND IF IT DOES GO THROUGH, I WILL MOVE OUT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

I AM HOPING THAT'S NOT THE FACT. WE LOVE SHEARWATER AND MANY OF OUR NEIGHBOR AND THE COMMUNITY IS A GREAT COMMUNITY AND I WOULD HATE TO HAVE TO SELL MY HOME AFTER HAVING IT FOR TWO MONTHS BECAUSE THIS GOES THROUGH.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE

>> KENNETH MCLEAN. PO BOX 912 HASTINGS, FLORIDA. I WANT TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT IN REFERENCE TO THE AGENDA ITEM. I TEND TO AGREE WITH ED SLAVEN AND TOM REYNOLDS ON THIS. A DISCRIMINATORY MOVE THEY ARE TRYING TO DO.

WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING ALL OVER ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THAT HAS BEEN A DIRE NEED AS WE LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALLOWS FOR MIXED USE SO I DON'T SEE HOW THIS DENIAL OF THE PROPERTIES COMING INTO A CERTAIN AREA IS REALLY FAIR.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS A WORKING CLASS PEOPLE THAT CANNOT AFFORD TO BUY ALL THESE MILLION-DOLLAR HOMES AND THESE PEOPLE THAT COME FROM UP NORTH WITH THESE MILLION DOLLARS BUILDING HOLIDAYS FANCY HOMES, BUILD ANOTHER ONE SOMEWHERE ELSE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE A PROFIT. DON'T COME TRYING TO CHANGE THINGS BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO SOMEBODY YOU FEEL IS A CERTAIN CLASS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD A HOUSE LIKE YOURS. YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE COUNTRY WITH MONEY AND GREED.

AND I JUS WANT TO SAY GOD BLESS YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR PUTTING UP WITH A LOT OF THE STUFF YOU DO BECAUSE ONLY GOD WOULD JUDGE. THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS EVERYBODY AND HAVE A BLESSED DAY. OTHER CALLS? THAT COMPLETES THE CALL AND NOT COMPLETES THE AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION AND I WILL TURN

IT BACK OVER TO THE CHAIRMAN. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: APPRECIATED LEGAL, DID YOU HAVE

SOMETHING >> THANK YOU. JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS IN ANOTHER BOARD WILL CONSIDER THE REQUEST. FIRST, THE BOARD MEMBERS SAY MANY TIMES AND I THINK MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NOBODY LIKES A SURPRISE UNLESS IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY. AND I THINK MY SENSE OF HEARING A LOT OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS THERE MAY BE SOME ELEMENT. YOU WANT TO INFORM THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OF A TOOL AND IT MAY BE A USEFUL TOOL AND I'M ADDRESSING BOTH THE PUBLIC IS HERE FOR ITEM 4 ALSO THE

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IT IS TRUE THAT LAY CITIZENS OR SO-CALLED NONEXPERTS CAN PROVIDE COMPETENT ÃWHAT'S CALLED COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE FOR A ZONING MATTER OR A QUASIJUDICIAL MATTER SUCH AS AGENDA ITEM 4. I WILL GIVE SOME EXAMPLES VERY BRIEFLY WHAT IS COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND WHAT IS NOT. FROM A LAYPERSON. BEFORE I SAY THAT, AN EXPERT, FOR EXAMPLE, A TRAFFIC SAFETY EXPERT A RECOGNIZED EXPERT COULD GIVE AN OPINION, AND NOT OPINION COUNTS AS COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, BUT THAT'S NOT SO FOR A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. HOWEVER, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE FOR ISSUES PERTAINING TO TRAFFIC, EVEN TRAFFIC SAFETY, COMPATIBILITY WITH EXISTING USES NOISE AND THAT TYPE OF THING. I WILL GIVE JUST ONE EXAMPLE SAY FOR THE TRAFFIC. AN EXPERT CAN SAY THAT THE EXPERT HERE SHE REVIEWS THE REVIEWED PLANS AND IN THE EXPERT'S OPINION, IT WOULD BE A TRAFFIC SAFETY PROBLEM.

A LAYPERSON CANNOT JUST GIVE THAT OPINION BUT WHAT A LAYPERSON CAN DO IS TO SAY WITHIN THE LAST SIX MONTHS AT THIS INTERSECTION, THERE HAVE BEEN FOUR ACCIDENTS AND HERE ARE THE REPORTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT TYPE OF THING COUNTS AS COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE WERE INSTEAD OF SAYING THERE'S TOO MUCH TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC CAPACITY, ETC., THAT TYPE OF OPINION DOES NOT COUNT, BUT WHAT COUNTS IS I BROUGHT IN A PICTURE OR A VIDEO AND YOU CAN SEE IT 6:40 5:00 A.M., THERE'S 17 CARS STACKED UP AT THE SLEIGH AND IT TAKES THREE LIFECYCLES TO GET THROUGH OR WHATNOT.

IN OTHER WORDS, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT A LAY CITIZEN CAN PROVIDE THAT COUNT AS COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. AS YOUR ATTORNEY I WILL BE VERY CANDID AND SAYING IT'S HELPFUL AS YOUR ATTORNEY THAT IF THERE IS A MATTER IN DISPUTE, EACH SIDE, EITHER SIDE IS ABLE TO PROVIDE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE BECAUSE THAT WILL SUPPORT A DECISION MADE BY THE BOARD, WHETHER TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE.

SO AS YOUR ATTORNEY, IT'S HELPFUL THAT THERE IS COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE ON EITHER

SIDE OF THE DECISION. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS?

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT FROM STAFF IF SHE WATERS ON THE REGISTERED WITH ÃLIST BECAUSE I HEARD PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THAT AND IF THEY ARE REGISTERED, WHAT IS THE ENTITY OR POINT OF CONTACT FOR THOSE NOTIFICATIONS BECAUSE THAT ENTITY AS I UNDERSTAND IS RESPONSIBLE DISSEMINATING INFORMATION. I AGREE MOST PEOPLE DON'T NOTIFY DON'T NOTICE THOSE ORANGE SIGNS. NPR IS A MECHANISM INTENDED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT SUCH IMPACTFUL CHANGES TO THEIR COMMUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT FEEDBACK FROM STAFF IF THAT'S POSSIBLE BECAUSE AS SOMEBODY SO EFFICIENTLY SIDE WE NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE A HASTY DECISION ON. AND IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TO BE CONTINUED SO THAT ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING EITHER VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON CAN BE CONDUCTED I WOULD LIKE TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT LIST TO HEAR THE DIALOGUE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE DEVELOPER ABOUT WHAT'S PROPOSED AND HOW THE CONCERNS WILL BE ADDRESSED.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

>> IDEA. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC. WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF MATTERS WHERE WE DEAL WITH THE PUBLIC AFTERWARDS SO I APPRECIATE THE CITIZENS CALLING AND SHOWING UP FOR MEETING AND I MINDFUL THAT CREATES HARDSHIPS FOR THEM. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS HAVE POINTED OUT HE COULD NOT HAVE NOTICED HER WORK REALLY TRACKING WHAT WAS GOING ON TODAY SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE AS A BOARD NEED TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WAYS WE CAN EXPAND PUBLIC NOTICE AND FIND WAYS OF MAKING SURE CITIZENS UNDERSTAND WHAT IMPACTS IS GOING TO HAVE BY WHAT DEVELOPMENTS AND GIVE EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. RATHER HERE TO THE PUBLIC PRIOR TO MAKING DECISIONS THAN AFTERWARDS AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE AS A BOARD HAVE TO CONTINUE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND FIND WAYS TO WORK THE PUBLIC TODAY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH END.

I AM CONCERNED BY A NUMBER OF THINGS BROUGHT UP TODAY. IT'S EVIDENT MANY RESIDENTS HAVE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT, BUT AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT. WE ARE DEALING WITH PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE MADE IMPORTANT INVESTMENTS AND THERE WAS A BALANCE TO THAT SO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE HEARING THAT AND BEING RESPONSIVE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN >> MS. SMITH? >> I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US AND THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE A MINUTE OR TWO OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION PERHAPS. IF MIKE WANTS TO COME UP AND SPEAK WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BELABOR THIS. WE JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO

RESPOND TO SOME COMMENTS MADE BY RESIDENTS. >> MIKE MCCALL AND FREEHOLD COMMUNITIES ST. AUGUSTINE. JUST WANT TO SAY I KNOW WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS AND IN THE LAST 10 DAYS WE RECEIVED A LOT OF FEEDBACK WE HAVE NOT SEEN EARLIER IN THE PROCESS AND FOR THAT REASON WE HAVE BEEN SURPRISED BY A LOT OF THE COMMENTS WE WANT TO ADDRESS THEM IN HEAR THE CONCERN OF RESIDENTS ABOUT HIS LIFE WE HAVE ASKED FOR THE CONTINUANCE.

CLEARLY, THERE WAS LOTS OF INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED WITH RESIDENTS IN SEVERAL OF THE ITEMS BROUGHT UP ARE CRITICAL ELEMENTS OF OUR DEVELOPMENT ORDER THAT US COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF KNOW IS SOMETHING WE ARE WHOLE TO INCLUDING TRANSPORTATION, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE LIKE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THAT.

WITH A COUPLE HUNDRED RESIDENTS MOVING IN EVERY YEAR SO THAT'S A CRITICAL LEARNING CURVE WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF ADDRESSING THE THAT'S THE REASON FOR OUR REQUEST FOR THE CONTINUANCE AND WE HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER IT. THANK YOU.

>> JUST ONE MORE THING. I HAVE GOTTEN, SINCE WE HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE, AN EMAIL FROM A RESIDENT NAMED RACHEL AND BARRY AND SHE RAISES AN ISSUE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS TODAY ON THIS FLOOR AND THE PUBLIC ABOUT COMMENTING. MY COMMENTING BACK TO COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF ON RESPONSES TO RESIDENT COMMENTS AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT MANY TIMES, COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OR COUNTY STAFF ASKS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE APPLICANT TO RESPOND BACK TO SPECIFIC COMMENTS ABOUT AN APPLICATION OR A PROPOSAL, AND THAT IS COMMONPLACE AND THIS IS NOT THE ONLY APPLICATION THAT IS OCCURRED FOR ARE RELATED TO AND IT IS THE BEST DOSE ÃTHOSE RESPONSES ARE PUBLIC RECORDS WHEN THEY ARE SENT TO THE

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THERE IS NOTHING DECEPTIVE GOING ON, THERE'S NOTHING IMPROPER GOING ON BECAUSE THIS LADY HAS MENTIONED THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE ERASED IN THE COMMUNITY AND I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR WE ARE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE TO SHEARWATER RESIDENTS AND NOT TO DO ANYTHING THAT SHOULD NOT BE DONE ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES PTO PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND MEMBER OF THE COUNTY STAFF. SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND I WANTED IT TO BE ON THE

RECORD FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YOU HAVE A RESPONSE?

>> MIKE ROBERTSON GROWTH MANAGEMENT. YOU HAD ASKED FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BILL OF RIGHTS POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE SHEARWATER ASHFORD MILLS AS MIKE MCCALL IN. WHICH IS THE DEVELOPER AND THE DEVELOPER'S REPRESENTATIVE AND OFTEN IS THE CASE WHEN IS A RELATIVELY NEW DEVELOPMENT AND WE WILL BE THE DEVELOPER UNTIL THE EXCHANGE HANDS LIKE THE HOA AND STAFF DID SEND OUT FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY

MEETING ON 5:27 AS WELL AS THE BCC FOR JULY 9. >> THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTINUANCE REQUESTED SO THAT THI DIALOGUE CAN CONTINUE AMONG THE HOMEOWNERS IN THE DEVELOPER

>> SECOND >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING HIM WE WILL PROCEED WITH

A ROLL CALL VOTE >> .PASSES 4 TO 0. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.

[1. Fiscal Year 2021 Recommended Budget and Proposed Millage Rates. ]

ITEM NUMBER ONE MR. DUNN. GOOD MORNING >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

JESSE DUNN DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET AND MOVING FORWARD TODAY WITH A RECOMMENDED BUDGET AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE MILLAGE RATES.

I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION THAT LARGELY MIRRORS THE DISCUSSION WE HAD ON JULY 7 WHEN THE WORKBOOK WAS PROVIDED TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

AS OF TODAY, OVERALL, THIS IS ABOUT A SEVEN MONTH PROCESS. WE ARE CERTAINLY DRAWING NEAR TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS IN SEPTEMBER AND TODAY, AUGUST 4 WE WILL ESTABLISH THOSE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATES. THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET ÃAND THAT IS ONLINE WORKBOOK IS ONLINE AS JCF L AT THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET'S HOMEPAGE.

THAT'S AT THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET OF A LITTLE LESS THAN 904.5 MILLION AND WHEN THIS IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD IN SEPTEMBER, THAT WILL INCLUDE CARRYFORWARDS.

SO IT WILL CERTAINLY BE A LARGER BUDGET AND WHAT WE ARE SEING NOW.

CARRYFORWARDS REFLECTING MULTIYEAR GRANTS AS WELL AS CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THE REQUIREMENT IN GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING TO APPROPRIATE THOSE FINDINGS AS THOSE PROJECTS CONTINUE ACROSS FISCAL YEARS. RECOMMENDED REVENUES FOR FY 21, THIS IS CERTAINLY A SLIDE WE HAVE BEEN UTILIZING OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. OUR PROPERTY APPRAISALS SUPERVISED ÃDETERMINED 11 POINT THREE TAXABLE GROWTH INCREASE AND THIS IS JUST PROPERTY TAXES AND YOU CAN SEE AN INCREASE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE WE WERE AVERAGING A LITTLE OVER NINE PERCENT AND WE ARE UP TO 11.13 PERCENT.

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THESE ARE REFLECTED 95 PERCENT PER STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS. KIND OF AN ONGOING ÃCERTAINLY THE OVERALL ÃI WILL GO BACK IS 21.5 MILLION INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES OVER LAST YEAR.

ABOUT ONE PERCENT IF THAT IS BASED ON EVALUATIONS AND THE OTHER ÃTHE OTHER 39 PERCENT WAS NEW CONSTRUCTION ON THIS. KIND OF RUNNING A DIVERGENT STORYLINE IF YOU WILL, WAITED UNTIL THE ÃTHEY ARE CALLED STATE REVENUE REMITTANCE AND THOSE ARE SALES TAX AND REVENUE SHARING GAS TAXES. WE INCLUDED TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAXES AS WELL.

AND I PROVIDED THIS SLIDE IN JULY OF WHERE WE WERE SEEING TRENDING DOWN IN THOSE REVENUES AND WE WERE SEEING AN UPTICK IN PROPERTY TAX BUT WE WERE SEEING A DECREASE IN SOME OF THESE STATE REVENUE REMITTANCE. I HAVE SINCE UPDATED THAT SLIDE BASED ON JULY 24, WE DID SEE A SLIGHT ÃIF I GO BACK AND FORTH ON OUR PROJECTIONS, FOR SALES TAX AND GAS TAX SEEING AN UPTICK OF A LITTLE OVER 850,000 AND REVENUE SHARING AND THAT $633,000 IN GAS TAX.

GOOD NEWS HELPS IN OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND THIS WILL FALL TO THE BOTTOM LINE IN SEPTEMBER. I REALLY DON'T HAVE AN EFFECT WE ARE SEEING AS OF YET ON FY 21'S PROJECTIONS. DIDN'T SEE THAT THESE ARE REALLY GOING TO OVERALL AFFECT 21 AS WELL WE ARE SEEING OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS FOR 21 WE RECEIVED SALES TAX REVENUE SHARING. THERE IS ÃTHE STATE DOES ESTIMATE AS WELL BASED ON THEIR CONFERENCE ON REVENUE ESTIMATES IN JULY, WE ARE RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE STATE'S PROJECTIONS BUT OUR PROJECTIONS WERE BASED ON GOING INTO A RECESSION, GOING BACK TO A PREVIOUS SESSION KIND OF ESTABLISHING A PER CAPITA. SO THAT PERSPECTIVE SEEMS TO BE IN LINE. THOSE STATE REVENUES ARE NOT Ã AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR EVERYONE WHO IS LISTENING THOSE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE STATE HOLDINGS REVENUES ALTHOUGH A PORTION OF THAT CALLED REVENUE SHARING IS BASED ON A STATE FORMULA.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE ON THESE REVENUES IS REALLY WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN TERMS OF LOCAL BEHAVIOR, THOSE REMITTANCES ARE SALES TAX AND GAS TAX AND TOURIST DEVELOPMENT BEHAVIORS LOCALLY. THEY GO TO THE STATE BUT THOSE DOLLARS ARE THEN REMITTED BACK.

SO WHEN WE SEE A LOWER AMOUNT REMITTED BACK, THAT'S NOT AS IF THE STATE IS WITHHOLDING MORE.

IT'S ACTUALLY WE ARE SEEING LESS ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA. WE'RE SEEING AN INCREASE IN THE PROPERTY TAX AND A DECREASE IN SOME OF THE NORMAL BEHAVIORS FROM DAY TO DAY.

KIND OF AN INTERESTING NUMBER IF I CAN FIND THIS. FY 20 PUBLIC BUDGET, AND I WAS USED TO AID FUND. THE BASELINE FOR THE COUNTY. ROPERTY TAXES AND FY 20 REPRESENTED 77 PERCENT OF THE GENERAL QUORUM OF THOSE NORMAL OCCURRING REVENUE STATE REMITTANCE WAS 12 PERCENT. WE ARE SEEING SOME REDUCTIONS IN REMITTANCE AND NOW THE PROPERTY TAX HAS INCREASED FROM 77 TO 83 PERCENT OF THE BUDGET FOR 21.

STATE REMITTANCE HAS DECREASED FROM 12 PERCENT TO 8 PERCENT SO CERTAINLY, THERE IS A RELIANCE MORE ON PROPERTY TAXES FOR FY 20 SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS SLIDE AS WE SHOWED IN EARLY JULY WAS

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WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES AT 14.4 MILLION BUT BECAUSE OF SOME OF THESE INCREMENTAL STATE REMITTANCE COMING DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY, OUR INCREMENTAL TAXES FOR THE GENERAL FUND NET AT ABOUT $7.3 MILLION. SIMILARLY FOR TRANSPORTATION TRUST, $2.7 MILLION IN INCREMENTAL PROPERTY TAXES BUT DUE TO SOME OF THESE GAS TAX BEHAVIORAL CHANGES, LOCALIZED BEHAVIORAL CHANGES, WE ARE SEEING INCREMENTAL PROPERTY TAX FOR INCREMENTAL REVENUE FOR THAT FUND ARE A LITTLE LESS THAN $1 MILLION AND TOURIST DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T HAVE ANY OFFSETS THERE. THESE ARE ÃWE ARE JUST DOWN BY $3.4 MILLION. AS WE HAVE RESPONDED TO HIS BEHAVIORAL CHANGES IN 20 AS WELL AS RIGHT NOW GOING INTO 21, FEES REVENUE LOSSES ARE NOT OFFSET BY ANY DRAWDOWN ON RESERVES. THIS YEAR WE WILL UTILIZE THE BUDGET SWEEPS ONLY SAUL REVENUES WE HAVE PROJECTED THIS YEAR WERE NOT NECESSARILY COMING IN.

WE SWEPT OPERATING EXPENDITURE LINES UP EARLY ON IN SPITE OF POPULAR STANCE TO TAKE BUT THE DEPARTMENTS WERE VERY RESPONSIVE TO MAKE THOSE DEDUCTIONS.

WE DID NOT TAP INTO OUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT. FY 21 RECOMMENDED BUDGET EXPENDITURES, I MENTIONED WE HAD BUDGET SWEEPS TO REDUCE SPENDING TOO RESPONDED TO THIS ANTICIPATED REVENUES. I WILL SHOW YOU A WORKSHEET THAT REPRESENTS THE CAPITAL OUTLAY, DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. ONLINE, THAT WORKBOOK. WE HAD A REAL APPROPRIATION PORTION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS ONLY GENERAL TO BUILDING SERVICES, WE HAD A REDUCTION, BASED ON LARGELY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CONTINUAL KIND OF INVESTMENT AS WELL AS THE RETURN AND WE HAVE A ZERO PERCENT THAT WE SEE ACROSS THE BOARD BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CONSTITUTIONAL OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

CHAIRMAN SMITH, YOU ASKED FOR AN UPDATE ON THAT FOR THE THIRD QUARTER AND I WILL PROVIDE THAT, THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE TODAY AND I WILL PROVIDE THAT UNDER SEPARATE COVER AS TO THE INVESTMENT. I KNOW BACK IN MARCH, WHICH IS THE LAST QUARTER WE HAD RECEIVED, COVID WAS NOT REALLY A VARIABLE AND MESS. I'M INTERESTED TO SEE AS WELL WHAT THIS NEXT ÃWITH THE JUNE 30 ÃWHAT THE EFFECT IS ON THE MARKET.

SO WE WILL PROVIDE THAT. 10 PERCENT REDUCTION TO HEALTHCARE EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTIONS. AS WERE AFFECTED IN THE BEGINNING OF FY 20 AND WE WENT BACK ONCE WE HAVE THE ANALYSIS AND MADE IT RETROACTIVE TO OCTOBER 1 AND WE WILL SEE SOME COVID-19 FUNDING ACTIVITIES MOVING ÃRELATED WITH THE CARES ACT FUNDING THAT WILL APPROPRIATE INTO THE FY 21 BUDGET AS CARRYFORWARD. THERE IS AN INCLUSION OF UTILITY STATE REVOLVING LOAN PROGRAMS, ANNUAL DEBTS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO UPDATE REVENUE PROJECTIONS AS WE SEE THEM. WE SEEM TO BE IN LINE WITH FY 21 BUT AS I MENTIONED EARLIER A COUPLE OF UPTICKS IN OUR HALF CENT SALES TAX AND GAS TAXES. WE ESTABLISHED A TOURIST TAX RESERVE CONTINGENT ON WHER THOSE ACTIVITIES COME IN NEXT YEAR BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE PROJECTING A LOWER REVENUE BUT WE'VE ESTABLISHED RESERVES IN THE EVENT THERE IS A TURNAROUND. OUR FUNDS ARE BALANCED OCCURRING REVENUES.

AND THEN WE WILL CONTINUE TO PRESERVE HEALTHY RESERVES AND MAINTAIN OUR CREDIT RATINGS AND WE ARE OVERALL A DOUBLE A+. HESE ARE THE BUDGET SUMMARIES.

THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE WORKSHEETS AND THE WORK RELATED TO POSITIONS.

FROM THE BOARD AND CERTAINLY ACTIVE AS PART OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE WORKSHOP AND PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS FROM THOSE WORKSHOPS RESULTED IN FURTHER REDUCTIONS FROM THERE, ANOTHER $3.2 MILLION, 3.3 IN REDUCTIONS OR DEFERRALS. SO THAT FY 21 OVERALL POSITION

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WE HAVE RESTRICTED RESERVES AND APPC POLICY RESERVE OF 60 DAYS TO RESPOND.

HURRICANES AS WE JUST DODGED A BULLET CERTAINLY DOES BCC RESERVE AS THE ABILITY FOR THE COUNTY TO RESPOND THE LARGEST COST WE HAVE POST HURRICANE IS DEBRIS REMOVAL I WILL USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE. WE LOST THE COUNTY CERTAINLY, 87 1/2 PERCENT OF THAT WAS REIMBURSABLE THROUGH FEMA BUT THE COUNTY HAS TO PUT UP THOSE DOLLARS UP FRONT THE FIRE

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ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH STREET LIGHTING DISTRICT 0.2 1 MEALS VILANO ST. LIGHTING DISTRICT REMAINS THE SAME AT 0.05. SUMMARY FIVE AND THIS YEAR, THE COASTAL HIGHWAY MST VIEW RELATED TO THE DATA RELATED TO THE COASTAL STORM RISK MANAGEMENT PROJECT THAT WASN'T APPROVED EARLIER THIS SUMMER, SHE MILLAGE IS 0.5. THE PONTE VEDRE SPEECH IS ZERO MILLS SOUTH PONTE VEDRE RESTORATION WOULD BE AT ZERO AND BEACH WOULD BE THOSE ARE MSTU SO THEY ARE KIND OF OPEN. THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT THIS YEAR TO LEVY ANY MILLAGE.

AT THIS CURRENT MILLAGE RATES THE AGGREGATE MILLAGE RATE IS 7.2496 AND THEN WHAT IS CALLED THE AGGREGATE ROLLBACK RATE WHICH IS THE AGGREGATE ROLLBACK RATE IS THE MILLAGE RATE NEEDED TO BE LEVIED IN THIS NEW FISCAL YEAR TO GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TAX DOLLARS AS THE PREVIOUS YEAR EXCLUDING THE VALUE OF NEW CONSTRUCTION. THAT ROLLBACK RATE IS 6.8470.

EACH OF THESE TAXING AUTHORITIES HAVE THEIR OWN RESPECTIVE ROLLBACK RATES.

AND WITH THAT I WILL LEAVE IT WITH THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION.> APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS? WE WILL OPEN ÃTRADITIONAL

BLOGGER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CANNOT >> NO, SIR.

I CANNOT >> WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT

>> WE WILL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON TITLE I DEALING WITH IS AS REAL AS ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE AS SHE SEES ANYONE ON THE PHONE THEY SAID WHAT IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE BOARD, FROM THE POINT FROM HERE YOU CAN GO DOWN TO F BUT ABSOLUTELY ROLLBACK THE LATER DATE WOULD

BE PERMISSIBLE >> ABSOLUTELY. ROLLBACK RATE OR ANY MILLAGE

REDUCTION IS PRUDENT. >> WITH THAT, I WILL ENTERTAINED AS WE HAVE A COUPLE

OF MOTION TO >> I WILL MOVE ÃIF ÃI WILL LIVE TO PROPOSE THE MILLAGE

RATE FOR FY 2021 >> SECOND >> OF A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JOHNS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION SEEN ON

WE WILL PROCEED WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE >>

>> AND I MOVED TO AUTHORIZE THE COMPLETION AND EXECUTION OF FISCAL YEAR 2021 FOUR BR 420 BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WITH THE APPROVED MILLAGE RATES THE ESTABLISHMENT OF SEPTEMBER 8, 2025: 01 AND THE COUNTY AUDITORIUM THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ADOPTION OF ST.

JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FISCAL YEAR 2021 BUDGET.

>> I WISH MY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND COMMISSIONER JOHNS. ANY DISCUSSION CAN THEY NOT WE WILL PROCEED WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE.

>> I WILL BE A YES AS WELL. >> THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS EXECUTIVE ORDER 20 NINE WAS ISSUED JULY 29, 2020 ALLOWS MILLAGE AND BUDGET HEARINGS SINCE WE ARE MOVING INTO THESE HEARINGS UNDER CHAPTER 200 FLORIDA STATUTE TO BE HELD VIRTUALLY.

CERTAINLY, WE WILL ESTABLISH WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE NOW DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC TO MY

PHONE IS NOT THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT. >> VERY MUCH.

[2. Presentation of the St. Johns County Comprehensive Annual Financial Report. ]

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WE ARE JOINED BY LAWN IS GOING TO GIVE US THE PRESENTATION >> GOOD MORNING.

I AM GOING TO DEBRIS BECAUSE THE AUDITOR PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS THE FACT THAT MR. DUNN HAS ALREADY GIVEN HELIFLIGHT A DETAILED PRESENTATION OF WHERE WE ARE AS A COUNTY. IT'S GOING TO SAVE US ABOUT $2.5 MILLION TO MAKE THE DECISION TO DO THAT AND IS GOING TO PAY OFF. AND WITH THAT YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS, I WILL STAY UP HERE AND ANSWER THEM, BUT RIGHT NOW I'M GOING TO BRING UP OUR AUDITOR AND THIS IS AMY MILLER WITH CAR, RIGGS & INGRAM. HIM HIM HIM I AM AMY MILLER THE SENIOR MANAGEMENT HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF MANAGING OUR AUDIT TEAM.

I WILL BE PRESENT TO YOU THIS MORNING THE RESULTS OF YOUR AUDIT THE YEAR ENDED SEPTEMBER 30, 2019. AND BEFORE I BEGIN WITH THAT SUMMARY, I WOULD ALSO JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO ADMINISTRATION AND MR. STAFFORD AND MR. PATTY AND ALL OF STAFF IN THE COUNTY FOR ALL OF THEIR COOPERATION AND ASSISTANCE IN RESPONDING TO ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THIS AUDIT COMPLETED TIMELY AND ALSO FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT PROGRAM. AND THE RESULTS OF THE MONITOR, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF SUMMARY. MOSTLY FROM PAGE 246 OF YOUR AUDIT BOOK THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED. THAT'S A GREAT SNAPSHOT SUMMARY OF THE RESULTS OF THE AUDIT.

AND SO WITH THAT ON THAT SUMMARY PAGE YOU WILL SEE THE ORDER PROCESS AND ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS WAS IN MY OPINION THAT IS A CLEAN OPINION AND THAT'S THE GOOD OPINION.

THAT'S AN AUDIT TERM MEANING THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE FAIRLY STATED IN ALL MATERIAL RESPECTS WITH THE ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES GENERALLY ACCEPTED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. SO THAT IS A GOOD CLEAN OPINION THAT HE WANTS TO SEE.

AND THERE WERE NO CONDITIONS TO REPORT OF NONCOMPLIANCE OR OF INTERNAL CONTROLS OVER FINANCIAL REPORTING. AS A RESULT OF OUR AUDIT OF THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF THAT'S ALSO A GOOD REPORT. THE COUNTY EXPENDED APPROXIMATELY 15 MILLION IN TOTAL FEDERAL EXPENDITURES, AND 19.8 MILLION IN TOTAL STATE EXPENDITURES FROM WHICH YOU HAD FOUR MAJOR FEDERAL PROGRAMS AND ONE MAJOR PROJECT THAT WE AUDITED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FEDERAL AND STATE SINGLE AUDIT ACT OUR AUDIT OF THE COUNTIES MAJOR FEDERAL AND STATE GRANT PROGRAMS ALSO RECEIVED AN UNMODIFIED OPINION FOR CASH OR A CLEAN OPINION.

THERE WAS ALSO NO CONDITIONS TO REPORT REGARDING NONCOMPLIANCE OR INTERNAL CONTROLS OVER COMPLIANCE FOR ANY OF THE MAJOR FEDERAL OR STATE PROJECTS. AND ALSO, A COUPLE OF OTHER POINTS I WENT TO SAY IN ADDITION TO THAT SUMMARY PAGE THAT WE COVERED IN OUR AUDIT, THE COUNTY HAD POSITIVE AND RESTRICTIVE UNASSIGNED ENDING BALANCE FOR ALL MAJOR FUND.

ALL REGULARLY SCHEDULED PAYMENT ON YOUR EXISTING DEBT DURING THE YEAR, THE GENERAL FUND UNASSIGNED ENDING FUND BALANCE SEPTEMBER 30, 2019 WAS ENOUGH TO COVER APPROXIMATELY FIVE MONTHS OF GENERAL OPERATIVE OPERATING EXPENDITURES WHICH IS MORE THAN SUFFICIENT TO MEET THE MINIMUM RECOMMENDATION CARRYFORWARD BALANCE ÃTWO MONTHS OF TOTAL OPERATING

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IN ADDITION TO THE AUDIT REPORT YOU HAVE RECEIVED A SEPARATE COMMUNICATIONS LETTER MUST OUTLINE THE RESPONSIBILITIES. IT DESCRIBES WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE OF THE AUDIT AND WHETHER THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT DIFFICULTIES ENCOUNTERED Ã ENCOUNTERED IN PERFORMING AUDIT WHICH THERE WERE NONE AND WE ALSO COMMUNICATED IN THIS LETTER WHETHER THEY WERE UNCORRECTED MATERIAL MISSTATEMENTS AND THERE WERE ALSO NONE OF THOSE.

THIS CONCLUDES THE SUMMARY OF YOUR AUDIT AND AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, MR. COMMISSIONERS FOR ALLOWING US TO BE YOUR AUDITORS AND TO THE MANAGEMENT AND STAFF FOR THEIR COOPERATION, ASSISTANCE IN THIS AUDIT PROCESS. AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS,

I WOULD BE GLAD TO TAKE THEM NOW. >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MILLER OR MR. STAFFORD? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEEING NONE WE WILL PROCEED TO

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE WILL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

>> BJ KALAIDI. I DON'T KNOW WHO MR. STAFFORD IS AND COULD YOU TELL US WHAT

HIS TITLE IS THANK YOU. >> MR. STAFFORD WE WILL SEE IF WE HAVE ANY MORE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. MY POSITION IS CHIEF FINANCIAL

CLERK. >> THANK YOU. NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 2? ANYONE ON THE PHONE? WE HAVE ONE:

>> TOM REYNOLDS 15 BREYANNA DEAN CT. .

I ENJOY THAT PRESENTATION. EDGING ON AN ACTIVE COUNTY RESIDENT.

I DO WANT TO MENTION TO YOU ON THAT REVIEW THERE IS A COUNTY VIOLATION.

I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN THE CLERK OF COURTS ON A LETTER THAT HE WROTE TO THE TALLAHASSEE DEMOCRAT AND I REALLY ADVISED HIM NOT TO DO ANYMORE THAT STUFF.

HE SEEMED LIKE A NICE YOUNG MAN BUT HE CANNOT BE WRITING LETTERS LIKE THAT AND IF HE DOES IT AGAIN, I'M GOING TO NOTIFY JUDGE RAUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THAT COMPLETES THE OPEN COMMENTS.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED AND WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY DISCUSSION, COMMENTS OR

QUESTIONS? >> I WANTED TO ACCEPT THE COUNTIES COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2019 IS PRESENTED BY THE CLERK OF COURT AND COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AND THE COUNTIES INDEPENDENT AUDITORS

>> HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JOHNS.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE WE WILL PROCEED WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE.

[3. The Northeast Florida Fire Watch Council - Fiscal Year 2021 Funding Request. ]

ITEM NUMBER THREE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE

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IT'S THE VETERAN SUICIDE ANNUALLY. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A BIG CHALLENGE. WE ARE LOSING MORE THAN 6000 VETERANS ONLY LOSE ABOUT 22 PER DAY AND OUR CHALLENGE IS AS YOU LOOK HERE WE HAVE FEMALE VETERANS WHO SERVED HONORABLY.

2.2 TIMES HIGHER FOR FEMALE VETERANS. SO THE CHALLENGE IS LAID OUT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THEM. AND THEN THERE ARE A LOT OF EFFORTS GOING ON.

THE VETERAN RELEASED SOMETHING. WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD DO WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS IS WHAT COULD WE DO HERE LOCALLY. AS WE FORMED THE FIRE WATCH HIS COMRADE IS STANDING WATCH FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WITH THE TEAMMATES AND I ARE FELLOW SOLDIERS AND MARINES. WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS FORM THAT AND CITY COMMISSIONER ROY DIMON IS THE CEO HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. AND HE HAD AN IDEA WE COULD TRY TO OWN THIS LOCALLY. SO WE SET THE STRUCTURE WHERE WE HAVE REPRESENTATION ACROSS EACH ONE OF THE FIVE COUNTIES. I AM FORTUNATE TO BE THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE.

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER IS OUR COMMISSIONER REPRESENTATIVE. EACH OF THE FIVE COUNTIES Ã NORTHEAST FLORIDA IS SO INTEGRATED AND MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN ONE COUNTY AND WORK IN ONE COUNTY. WE HAVE HAD TREMENDOUS ABILITY TO WORK ACROSS THE VARIOUS COUNTIES TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ADDRESSING THIS. WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ÃWE MEET REGULARLY. IT WAS ANNOUNCED IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR COMMISSION IN THE FALL HAD AUTHORIZED ME TO BE THE REPRESENTATIVE AND COMMISSIONER BLOCKER TO BE THE REPRESENTATIVE. AND SO WE STARTED AT THE FIRST PART OF NOVEMBER AND HAD AN ANNOUNCEMENT AND I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

IT'S NOT JUST GOOD ENOUGH THAT ÃWHAT CAN WE DO AS A COMMUNITY.

YOU SEE AS ABOARD THE PLANET WE HAVE AND IT'S REALLY TWOFOLD. WE WANT TO LOOK TO SEE A VETERAN CRISIS IF A VETERAN IS IN CRISIS ÃABOUT THE CRISIS INTERCEPT NOTHING WE ARE DOING ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A VETERAN GOES INTO A CRISIS FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT FROM A MEDICAL STANDPOINT FROM ALL ASPECTS.

YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND THE OTHER PART IS AWARENESS.ACK WILL BE A BETTER CONNECTION POINT ACROSS THE REGION.ND EVERY VETERAN IS NOT IN CRISIS.

MOST VETERANS ARE NOT IN CRISIS. THEY MIGHT NEED A HAND UP HER LITTLE BIT OF HELP. ALSO WHAT ARE WE DOING TO DO A BETTER JOB OF LINKING VETERANS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND PROBABLY IMPORTANT WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE COMMUNITY.

A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THERE'S A VETERANS INITIATIVE THAT IS ADVERTISED EXCLUSIVELY TO VETERANS BUT BY FAR THE MAJORITY ARE NOT VETERANS. BUT EVERYBODY ALMOST TO A PERSON I'VE EVER TALKED WITH HAVE THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING. WE HAD DONE A POOR JOB OF GETTING NONVETERANS INVOLVED. WE HAVE A PLAN ABOUT THAT. SOME SPECIFICS FOR THAT IS WE

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AND I THINK I MIGHT END UP SKIPPING SLIDES. AND WE TALKED ABOUT METHANE.

ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS WHEN A VETERAN GOES INTO CRISIS. WE ARE FORTUNATE WITH THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION [INDISCERNIBLE] WHAT THEY DO IS GO TO COMMUNITIES AND WORK WITH COMMUNITIES IN A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS AND EXAMINE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A VETERAN GOES INTO CRISIS. WE'VE HAD THE FIRST TWO WORKSHOPS AND THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE A SEPTEMBER 2. WE HAVE REPRESENTATION ACROSS THE FIVE COUNTIES AND WE WILL ANALYZE THAT. SAMSON WILL COME BACK TO US WITH A PLAN ABOUT WHAT OUR STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES ARE WE CAN HELP WITH THAT. AND THE GREAT THING IS WE HAVE THE RIGHT SUPPORT BUT WE NEED TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER.

WE'VE DONE THIS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND IT'S DOING IT ÃIS NO COST AND IT'S A LOT OF SWEAT EQUITY WE ARE PUTTING INTO THIS. THAT IS SKIPPING SLIDES, UNFORTUNATELY. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE HAVE DONE IS A VETERANS RESOURCE GUIDE TO CREATIVE VETERANS RESOURCE GUIDE AND THAT IS A COMPREHENSIVE LISTING OF RESOURCES WERE VETERANS AND MILITARY AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT.

THIS IS THE RESOURCE GUIDE BECAUSE WE THOUGHT ONE OR TWO THINGS HAPPEN.

IF A VETERAN IS IN CRISIS TO PITCH IN AND WORK FOR THAT BUT MOST OF THE TIME VETERANS NOT IN CRISIS BUT THEY MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THE RESOURCES THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR THEM.

AND SO WE WORKED WITH THE: CLINIC CENTER STONE AND MILITARY FAMILY CLINIC AND UNITED WAY WOUNDED WARRIORS CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, WE POURED THE RESOURCES INTO ONE WEBSITE BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIMES VETERANS NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE RESOURCES ARE SO WE'VE CREATED THAT. WE ARE ADDRESSING BOTH FROM A VETERANS IN CRISIS.

HOW CAN WE SUPPORT THEM BETTER? WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP INDIVIDUAL VETERANS.

I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO NICK OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND I WOULD LIKE ÃWE WILL GET INTO FUNDING AND A SECOND. THE BACKBONE IS CANINES FOR WARRIORS WHICH IS IN ST.

AUGUSTINE AREA. AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED LESS THAN $200,000 OF THEIR OWN MONEY FOR THAT. THE SALARY IS PAID BY CANINES FOR WARRIORS.

IT SIMPLY WANTS TO ATTACK VETERAN SUICIDE AND IS WILLING TO INVEST SO NICK, LET ME TURN

IT OVER TO YOU. >> AND THANKS VERY MUCH TO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR REALLY HAVING THE COURAGE AND THE FORESIGHT ALMOST 9 MONTHS AGO THIS WEEK TO PARTNERING WITH CLAY BAKER, NASSAU AND UTAH COUNTIES TO CREATE THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA FIRE WATCH COUNSEL BECAUSE TRULY, IT IS THE FIRST OF ITS KIND A JOINT EFFORT JUST A COLLABORATION BETWEEN COUNTY GOVERNMENTS AND NONPROFITS WITHIN OUR REGION.

AND AS THE GENERAL WAS TALKING ABOUT THE FUNDAMENTAL BELIEF OF THE FIRE WATCH IS THAT IF WE CAN GET VETERANS THE RESOURCES THEY NEED BEFORE THEY GET CRISIS WE THINK WE CAN PREVENT SUICIDE. TESTED BY THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION AND FOR THOSE WHO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE RESOURCES, IT'S BEEN GREAT. THE RATE OF SUICIDE CONTINUES TO GO UP. OUR WHOLE FOCUS OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE LAUNCHING IS TO CONNECT VETERANS TO THE RESOURCES THEY NEED AND WE ARE LUCKY WE ARE MILITARY AND VETERAN FRIENDLY COMMUNITY AND THE NATION AND WE HAVE A WHOLE HOST OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO OUR VETERANS. WE THINK WE CAN PREVENT VETERAN SUICIDE.

THREE THRUSTS, TWO OF THEM THE GENERAL TALKED ABOUT ON THE FIRST ONE IS SAMSON AND WHAT HE

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WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO IS WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY DOING IS WE LAUNCHED IT EARLY FIGURING EVEN IN AN EARLY STAGE LESS DEVELOPED PHASE IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR VETERANS DURING THE COVID CRISIS. WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO IS MOBILIZE AND RALLY OVER 10,000 MEMBERS TO LEARN THE RISK SIGNS OF VETERANS AND CRISIS SO IF WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO SHORE UP THAT IF WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT EASILY ACCESSIBLE ÃIF WE ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY TO TAKE QUICK TRAINING AND UNDERSTANDING HOW TO REACH OUT WE THINK WE ARE GOING TO GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS REDUCING. THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE A PEER TO PEER PROGRAM BOTH FOR VETERANS AND CIVILIANS TO LEARN ÃLEARN HOW TO REACH OUT TO VETERANS AND GET THEM TO THE RESOURCES THEY NEED. SO THE PROGRAM AT ITS MOST BASIC PROGRAM IS 60 MINUTES TO SAVE A LIFE KNOW IT TAKES A LOT LESS THAN THAT. THERE'S A FEW VIDEOS INCLUDING ÃIT'S SAVE. AS NOMENCLATURE HOW TO ÃAS IT STANDS FOR SCIENCE, A.S. ASKED THEM IF THEY NEED HELP AND BE AS VALIDATE THEIR CONCERNS AND ES EXPEDITE.

THE SHORT VIDEO TEACHES FOLKS WHO WANT TO BE WATCHING HOW TO SEE THOSE SIGNS AND TAKE ACTION. SO BEFORE WE GET INTO THIS ONE WHICH I WILL TURN BACK OVER TO THE GENERAL, ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS WE ARE DOING IS WHEN SOMEONE QUALIFIES THEY TAKE A PLEDGE AND THAT'S IF THEY WILL BE VIGILANT AND TAKE ACTION WHEN THEY SEE A VETERAN NEEDS HELP. WE SEND THEM A WRISTBAND LIKE I HAVE ON HERE WHICH MEANS THEY ARE A WATCH STANDER AND WE SEND THEM A CERTIFICATE SIGNED BY GENERAL FLEMING BY COUNCILMAN DIMOND AND MYSELF AND WE SEND THEM A WALLET CARD WHICH REITERATES WHAT THEY'VE LEARNED IN THE TRAINING AND HELPS THEM UNDERSTAND THESE SIGNS AND UNDERSTAND WHERE TO DIRECT A VETERAN. IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THEY ARE TAUGHT WHEN THEY GO THROUGH THE TRAINING IF THEY SEE A VETERAN TO DIRECT THEM TO MY MAMA OR THE VETERAN CRISIS LINE WHICH IS A 24/7 MANDALA LINED BY FOLKS WHO ARE QUALIFIED MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELORS. IF THEY ARE JUST IN NEED OF HELP, NOT IN CRISIS, THEY CAN CALL 211 WHICH UNITED WAY OF NORTH FLORIDA RUNS WITH A DEDICATED VETERAN ON STAFF AND CAN HELP DEDICATE OR DIRECT THE VETERAN OR THEY CAN GO TO THE RESOURCES GUIDE.

IT PRECEDED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE WATCH STANDER PROGRAM BECAUSE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE POLICE CAME TO US IF WE COULD HELP THEM DEVELOP ONE SO EVERY OFFICER CARRIES ONE OF THESE WALLET CARDS BECAUSE THEY MIGHT FIND OR ENCOUNTER A VETERAN IN CRISIS OR ON THE BEAT. AND NOW THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE ÃTHE BECAUSE THIS WAS THE SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT WITH THE LOCAL POLICE WE TOOK IT TO BAKER AND CLAY AND HOPEFULLY NASSAU AND DO ALL COUNTY WILL ALSO GET IT SOON SO OVER TO

GENERAL FLEMING. >> CAN YOU PUT UP THE LAST SLIDE? WE JUST STARTED THE BATTLE. PWE JUST STARTED NOW. ANDACCEPT FOR HIS SALARY IS PAID FOR BY CANINES FOR WARRIORS, WE ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS.

NO MONEY OTHER THAN THE SATISFACTION ÃTHE WALLET CARDS WERE ONE OF THE SPECIFIC THINGS WE DEVELOPED. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS WE WANT TO DO IN THIS PROGRAM WILL CONNECT VETERANS BECAUSE ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS ISOLATION. BECAUSE BEING IN THE MILITARY IS A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE AND WHEN YOU REMOVE FROM THAT SOMETIMES YOU REMOVE YOUR TEST YOU LOSE YOUR FOCUS AND YOUR COMPASS. WE ARE APPRECIATIVE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY THAT THEY ARE

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INPUT OR COMMENT. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR EITHER OF THESE GENTLEMEN?

>> THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. I LOST MY CELL PHONE RECEPTION.

I WANT TO COMPLEMENT NICK AND GENERAL FLEMING, THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK YOU ARE DOING.

YOU CAME TO US AND OUTLINED THIS PLAN I THINK YOU ARE MAKING TREMENDOUS PROGRESS AND I KNOW OUR COMMUNITY APPRECIATES IT AND THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE IMPACTED BY THIS ISSUE AND WITH LIMITED RESOURCES AND LIMITED FUNDING, IF DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF US. WE ARE JUST GETTING GOING HERE BUT I APPRECIATE YOU ALL AND COMING BACK WITH VERY DETAILED INFORMATION.

LOTS OF TIMES WE FIND IT DIFFERENT THINGS AND GET FEEDBACK BUT THANK YOU FOR PRECISE DATA WE CAN REVIEW AND SEE HOW YOU ALL ARE MAKING AN IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY SO

THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. >> WITH NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER DEAN, WE WILL

PROCEED WITH FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT >> PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 3,

THE FIRE WATCH PROGRAM. >> AND THE CHAIRMAN OF THE VETERANS COUNCIL AND I LIVE AT 1072 ALCALA DOCTOR I ÃSEVERAL MONTHS ON THIS PROGRAM, I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW IMPORTANT THIS PROGRAM IS TO OUR VETERANS. IN THIS COMMUNITY AND AND BEST FIVE-COUNTY AREA.

HAVING HAD TO ATTEND A FEW FUNERAL SERVICES IF YOU WILL FOR VETERANS COMMITTED SUICIDE AND I HAVE ATTENDED A COUPLE AND SEEING THE DEVASTATION IT CAUSES THE FAMILIES AND THOSE WHO ARE LEFT BEHIND, THIS PROGRAM IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS COMMUNITY AND TO OUR VETERANS. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AS A CHAIRMAN OF THE VETERANS COUNCIL, KNOWING THE FEELINGS OF VETERANS HOW IMPORTANT THIS PROGRAM IS THAT WE HUNDRED PERCENT SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM. I WANT TO THANK THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CERTAINLY TO COMMISSIONER BLOCKER FOR HEADING THIS PROGRAM UP FROM THE BOARD STANDPOINT. BUT AGAIN, WANTED TO THANK THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND ADMINISTRATION FOR ALL THE SUPPORT YOU HAVE GIVEN OUR VETERANS OVER THE YEARS AND THE SUPPORT I KNOW YOU WILL GET THIS PROGRAM. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE? ANY CALL ENDS ON PUBLIC

COMMENT? I THINK WE HAVE A CALL IN. >> TOM REYNOLDS.

50 BRIGANTINE CT. WHAT A GREAT THING HERE. I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO SUPPORT IT 100 PERCENT AND I'M SO GLAD THESE GENTLEMEN ARE OUT THERE. THAT WAS AN AWESOME PRESENTATION BECAUSE I READ QUITE A BIT AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN A HUGE PROBLEM.

I DO WANT TO REMIND YOU IT IS ONLY 25,000. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF VETERANS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I THINK OUR COMMISSIONER NEEDS TO MAKE A MOTION AND INCREASE THE FUNDING OF $100,000 AND I THINK THSE GENTLEMEN ERY MUCH WHAT WONDERFUL PEOPLE.

THANK YOU AND HAVE A GREAT DAY. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ONE MORE?

GO AHEAD. >> HELLO? HELLO?

>> NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE, MAN. >> I AM CALLING BECAUSE LIKE SO MANY WATCHING, THE FIRE WATCH THING IS AMAZING AND I'M HOPING WHATEVER WE CAN DO IS ACCOUNTING TO HELP OUR VETERANS WE NEED TO DO IT. IF THERE IS ANYTHING WE CAN DO WE ALL CARE ABOUT OUR VETERANS. MY GRANDFATHER WAS A VETERAN FROM WORLD WAR II.

THERE WERE SO MANY ISSUES AFFECTING OUR VETERANS AND WE SHOULD BE PLACING THEM FRONT AND FOREMOST AFTER THEY COME BACK RATHER THAN DURING THEIR MILITARY SERVICE.

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PASCO COUNTY HAS ONE AND THEY ARE COMPLETELY LIBERTARIAN RUN COUNTY.

THERE IS NO REASON WHY OUR COUNTY SHOULD NOT HAVE A MASK MANDATES WHEN WE ARE SUFFERING FROM A COVID PANDEMIC. OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER CALLS? >> I THINK THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT

>> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSE WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION > I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO ALLOCATE $25,000 TO THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA FIRE WATCH COUNSEL FROM

THE GENERAL COUNSEL >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND A SECOND

BY COMMISSIONER JOHNS. ANY OTHER >>

>> THANK YOU FOR COMING IN. PPRECIATE THE REPORT. >> THANK YOU.

IT'S GRATIFYING TO HAVE THIS KIND OF SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[5. REZ 2020-11 Fulkerson Rezoning. ]

>> WE WILL MOVE ALONG TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. IT'S AN EX PARTE ITEM.

SO AT THIS POINT, WE WILL ENTERTAIN ANY DISCLOSURES THAT PNEED TO BE MADE.

COMMISSIONER DEAN? COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? COMMISSIONER JOHNS?

>> I JUST WANT TO MENTION I DID HAVE ONE EMAIL AND NORMALLY I DON'T DISCLOSE THESE BUT IT'S THE ONLY ONE I'VE HAD ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ON JULY 21, 2020.

FROM GINNY FULKERSON RICHARD AND REQUESTED THE SUPPORTING ON BEHALF OF HER FATHER WITH THAT BEING DONE, WE WILL NOW PROCEED. MRS. TAYLOR

>> GOOD MORNING. KAREN TAYLOR, 77 SARAGOSSA ST. AND I AM HERE FOR THE REZONING MR. FULKERSON IS IN THE BACK. SO HE'S WAITED ÃTHROUGH THE WHOLE MORNING AND OTHER REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE WORKING ALONG WITH HIM AND I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF.

THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. BASICALLY, THE SITE IS EIGHT ACRES AND IT'S ON 207, THE SOUTHEAST SIDE, IT'S SOUTH OF WILDWOOD DRIVE WHICH WOULD BE UP IN THIS LOCATION AND NORTH OF BRINKOFF ROAD WHICH IS IN THE STAGE AND THEN A BIT NORTH OF I-95 WHICH IS THE FLEA MARKET AREA. AND IT'S KIND OF NORTH. THERE IS VACANT COMMERCIAL THAT WOULD BE THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH THAT WAS REZONED AND THERE IS THE TREE GROUNDS PUD AND THIS PORTION IS RESIDENTIAL ON THIS PORTION. WOULD BE THAT COMMERCIAL.

AND THEN THERE'S KIND OF A MIXTURE ACROSS THE STREET WHICH INCLUDES SOME COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE IS FULLY WITHIN A MIXED-USE CORRIDOR AND PRIMARILY ADJACENT TO IT IS A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AS WELL WHICH WOULD BENEFIT FROM HAVING COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES. THE CURRENT ZONING IS OR AND AS I SAID THERE WAS A PORTION NEXT TO IT IN THIS AREA CAN SEE IT SCATTERED CI ZONINGS AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL AND OTHER COMMERCIAL DESIGNATIONS WITH SOME RESIDENTIAL AS WELL. THIS GIVES YOU A LOOK AT WHAT THE BUSINESSES ARE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT AND THEY ARE ZONED.

THERE'S ALSO THE TELLING BUSINESS AND SOME OF THE OTHER ACTIVITIES, BUT IT IS VACANT.

THE RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THE TREATY GROUNDS IS VACANT BUT UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THIS POINT. THE COMMERCIAL WHICH WILL BE IN THIS LOCATION IS NOT UNDER CONSTRUCTION YET. THIS IS JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE SITE.

ABOUT A THOUSAND FEET OF FRONTAGE BUT IT IS A TRIANGULAR SITE SO IT'S A LITTLE UNUSUAL IT'S BEEN USED FOR AGRICULTURAL USES THERE IS ACTUALLY OPPOSING LEFT AND TURN LANES IT'S KIND

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THIS IS VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AND IT'S VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE USES NORTH AND SOUTH AND THERE'S MINIMAL FRONTAGE TO THE RESIDENTIAL OTHER THAN THAT IT'S SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL. IT HAS VERY SIMILAR INTENSITIES TO THE SAME ZONING.

WE FEEL IT'S AN PERFORMANCE OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE DID RECEIVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM ZONING AND WE ARE HERE RECOMMEND ÃANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 5? NONE AN AUDIENCE. ANY PUBLIC CALL IN. WITH PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSED I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. TO APPROVE REZONING 2020 Ã11 FULKERSON REZONING REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 804 ACRES BASED UPON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF

REPORT. >> A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN

>> ANY DISCUSSION? >> WE WILL ÃCOMMISSIONER JOHNS?

[6. Public Hearing * FFY 2020 FTA Grant Application. ]

GOOD MORNING. >> MIKE ROBBERSON GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

>> JUST TO DOUBLE CHECK TO SEE IF THEY ARE ON THE LINE. >> FONG IF YOU WANT TO GET THE

BRIEFING. >> CERTAINLY. GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS THE FEDERAL TRANSIT DEMONSTRATION AND THE GRANT APPLICATION. THIS IS FORMULA GRANT CALLED 6307.

WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE THAT THIS YEAR REFLECTING THE NEED FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THEY HAVE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL ÃTHEY BEING THE ADMINISTRATION HAS A LOT OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF 1.2 MILLION I'M GOING TO GO FROM MEMORY JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO HOW WE ALLOCATE APPROPRIATE THE FUNDING.

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YOU. >> MS. CARTY IS HERE SO SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PICK IT OFF Ã UP FOR

>>> AND THAT IS ALL MATCHED BY TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT CREDITS AND GOT A LITTLE BIT OF GENERAL COUNTY FUND DOLLARS.

THE CAPITAL IS A COMBINATION OF ALL BUSES.

ALL GOING TO BE FOR REPLACEMENT BUSES AND THAT IS ALSO MATCHED BY TOTAL REVENUE CREDITS. SO MOST OF IT IS COVERED.

NO MONEY COMES FROM THE COUNTY EXCEPT FOR THE GENERAL REVENUE GENERAL LEDGER GENERAL FUND AT $276,489 THAT WE ALWAYS

CONTRIBUTE. >> ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED? ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHTY. SEEING NONE WE'LL PROCEED TO PUBLIC COMMENT. COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM SIX? NONE FROM THE AUDIENCE. ANYONE ON THE PHONE? NONE. OKAY.

THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I WILL MOVE TO ADOPT

RESOLUTION. >> APPROVING THE PROPOSED PROGRAM. SICKS 5.307339.

FUNDING ASSISTANCE BASED ON THE APPROVED PROGRAM OF PROJECTS AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR PREFERRED DESIGNEE AND THINK SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENT ACHES UPON APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION AND TO RECOGNIZE THE FUNDS IN THE COUNTY'S FISCAL

2020 BUDGET. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ROLL CALL VOTE.

[Additional Item]

MR. MCCORMICK. >> MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS ASIDE FROM THE COVID LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY BECAUSE OF THE STORM EAST EAST APPEARED TO BE AFFECTING ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AT THE LATER PORTION OF THE WEEK AND INTO THE WEEKEND THE COUNTY YOUR BOARD HEARD PROVIDED AN EMERGENCY MEETING ON SATURDAY AUGUST 1ST AND DECLARED A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY AFTER HEARING CONDITIONS AT THAT TIME. SINCE THEN FORM NATELY THE STORM -- HAD WEAKENED GOING PAST ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND MOVED FURTHER EAST. HOWEVER, THE COUNTY IS IN A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY PERTAINING TO THAT STORM.

THE LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY HAD A MAXIMUM SEVEN-DAY SHELF LIFE SINCE THE COVID-19 LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY HAS BEEN RUNNING ON TUESDAY -- AND THE BOARD HAS EXTENDED THE THOUGHT WAS TO

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THE BOARD WILL CONSIDER WHETHER TO EXTEND IT TODAY.

IF THE BOARD DOES NOT EXTEND IT TODAY IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY EXPIRE THIS SATURDAY THE 8TH. IF YOU EXTEND IT TODAY THEN THE MATTER WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION NEXT TUESDAY ALONGSIDE THE COVID-19 LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY.

SO YOU HAVE A ONE PAGE PROCLAMATION.

THE ONLY EFFECT IS TO AGAIN RESTART THE CLOCK TO START THE SEVEN-DAY CLOCK AS OF TODAY RATHER THAN SATURDAY THE FIRST.

MR. CHAIR. >> THANK YOU, MR. MCCORMICK.

I HAVE A REQUEST REGARDING -- TO IT.

DID WE EXPERIENCE ANY DAMAGE AND IS THERE A NEED TO CONTINUE TO EXTEND THIS LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.

SO OBVIOUSLY THE STORM WAS DOWNGRADED AND WEAKENED AS IT WENT PAST US. WE ARE CONTINUING TO DO OUR ASSESSMENT RIGHT NOW. AGAIN AS THE WEATHER AS YOU SAW IT WAS MORE OF A COASTAL ENVIRONMENT.

WE DID STAIN SOME DAMAGES ALONG THE BEACH MAINLY AT THE ST.

AUGUSTINE PIER. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW PICTURES BUT THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT SAND LOSS THERE.

THE ONE THING THAT WE'VE DONE IS CONTACTED THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND THEY ARE COMING THIS WEEK TO HELP US ASSESS THE TRUE DAMAGE TO THE LOCATION. WE DO HAVE A RENOURISHMENT PROGRAM IN THE AREA AND WE HAVE CONTRACTS AND CLAUSES IN PLACE DEPENDING ON HOW SIGNIFICANT OF THE DAMAGE BUT WE PLEAD THE ARMY CORPS HERE TO DO THAT. THAT IS THE MAIN PORTION OF KNOWN DAMAGES RIGHT NOW. HOWEVER, THE STORM ONLY PASSED YESTERDAY SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO DO OUR ASSESSMENT.

THE COUNTY STAFF IS DOING A GREAT JOB.

THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING OUT AND IDENTIFYING BUT

THE DAMAGE IS LOCAL TO THE AREA. >> SO YOU WOULD RECOMMEND AN

EXTENSION. >> I WOULD RECOMMEND AN EXTENSION AT LEAST TO TUESDAY SO I CAN COME BACK TO TUESDAY AND TELL YOU WHAT WE NEED AND DON'T NEED AND SUN SET IT AT THAT

LEVEL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON OUR EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION TO EXTEND THE LOCAL EMERGENCY REGARDING THE STORM THE TROPICAL STORM? NONE I BELIEVE.

NO CALL INS. NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED.

NOW BACK TO THE BOARD. EXTEND THIS LOCAL STATE OF

EMERGENCY. >> MOVE TO APPROVE THE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION FOR THE STATE OF EMERGENCY.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.

I THINK IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH. THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE ROLL CALL VOTE.

IT PASSES 4-0. NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ALONG

[Reports]

WE'LL DO THAT NOW. COMMISSIONER THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AS YOU MAY RECALL LAST TUESDAY I ASKED SEVERAL QUESTIONS OF DR. ALI-A-TAIE COME AND MS. ANDREWS REGARDING CONTRACT TRACING AND WE HAD A THOROUGH AND GOOD DISCUSSION TO KEEP FOLLOWING IT AND COME BACK WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING SPECIFICALLY CONTACT TRACING.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT DR. ALI-A-TAIE COME IS AVAILABLE ON THE PHONE. -- RECOGNIZES THAT WE DO NEED

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A REPORT.

WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST YOU MAY GO.

>> I'LL DEFER TO DR. AS PRESENTATION.

SHE IS ON STAND BY. >> GOOD MORNING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> WE CAN.

>> YES. HI.

I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION TO RESPOND TO COMMISSIONER JOHNS QUESTIONS HE FRIDAY LAST WEEK AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT

TO BEGIN WITH THAT. >> SURE. %-ÚT

FIRST. >> OKAY.

THANKS. GOOD MORNING.

DDR. ALI-A-TAIE OKAY.

-- -- ARE GENERALLY LAGGING INDICATORS AFTER IDENTIFICATION OF POSITIVE CASES. WHEN WE LOOK AT CHILDREN AS OF AUGUST 2ND THERE ARE MORE THAN 38,000 ENGINEER UNDER THE AGE OF 18 WHO HAVE OR HAVE HAD COVID-19 IN FLORIDA.

IN THE LAST MONTH THREE YOUNGER CHILDREN AND FOUR TEENAGERS HAVE PASSED AWAY IN OUR STATE. IN OUR COUNTY WE'VE HAD 288 CHILDREN UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE WITH COVID-19 I'LL STRESS INCLUDING 14 INFANTS. THERE ARE NO KNOWN DEATHS OF CHILDREN IN OUR COUNTY. AS ALWAYS MY HEART REMAINS FOR THE INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES IN THE COMMUNITY AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY AFFECTED BY COVID-19 AS THEY STRUGGLE WITH ILLNESS AND GRIEF. FLORIDA'S COVID-19 POSITIVITY RATE FOR PEOPLE WHO TESTED POSITIVE FOR THE FIRST TIME HAS DECREASED THIS WEEK. AVERAGING 11.4% FOR THE PAST TWO WEEKS. AND IN OUR COUNTY THE POSITIVITY RATE ALSO DECREASED THIS WEEK AVERAGING ABOUT 7% VERSUS 9% POSITIVITY RATE FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF THOSE WHO TESTED POSITIVE FOR THE FIRST TIME. OUR PUBLIC HEALTH FOCUS CONTINUES TO FOCUS ON EARLY CASE IDENTIFICATION, ISOLATION AND CONTACT TRACING TO CURB THE SPREAD.

THIS IS OUR EXPERTISE AND WE DEDICATE OUR RESOURCES THERE.

MITIGATION STRATEGIES, FACE MASK, SOCIAL DISTANCING, HAND HYGIENE. AS SAID BEFORE EVIDENCE DEMONSTRATES THAT BOTH SYMPTOMATIC AND ASYMPTOMATIC INDIVIDUALS CAN SPREAD THE ILLNESS UNWILLINGLY.

FREQUENT HAND WASHING AND SOCIAL DISTANCING, STAYING HOME IF YOU'RE SICK CAN HELP SLOW THE SPREAD OF THE DISEASE AND DECREASE FATALITIES. AN EDITORIAL PUBLISHED LAST MONTH WHERE THE CDC REVIEWED THE LATEST SCIENCE AFFIRMED THAT CLOTH FACE COVERINGS ARE A CRITICAL TOOL IN THE FIGHT.

THAT COULD REDUCE THE SPREAD OF DISEASE WHEN USED UNIVERSALLY WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES. RESEARCH YIELDED THE FOLLOWING RESPONSES TO COMMISSIONER JOHN'S QUESTIONS FROM LAST WEEK.

PLEASE BEAR IN MIND THAT THE NOVEL CORONAVIRUS COVID-19 IS A VERY YOUNG DISEASE OF GLOBAL PROPORTIONS STILL EVOLVING AND

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NOT ALL CLOTH MASKS ARE EQUALLY PROTECTIVE.

THE CDC HAS RECOMMENDED TO WEAR A MASK TO REDUCE THE SPREAD OF COVID-19. ALTHOUGH SURGICAL AND -- TYPE MASKED SHOULD BE RESERVED DUE TO LIMITED AVAILABILITY.

SCIENTISTS STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT SINGLE AIR CLOTH FACE COVERINGS REDUCE THE SPREAD BUT DOUBLE IS BETTER.

A DOUBLE AIR CLOTH FACE COVERING WAS SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER.

A THREE PLY PERFORMED BEST OF ALL.

A RECENT STUDY IN THE JOURNAL SHOWED A DECLINE IN HEALTH CARE WORKERS TESTING POSITIVE FOR SARS COV COVID-19 AFTER IMPLEMEG UNIVERSAL MASKING OF PATIENTS. CDC LEADERS POINTED TO WEARING FACE COVERINGS OR A MASK AS PRACTICAL, TIMELY AND COMPELLING EVIDENCE THAT COMMUNITY WIDE FACE COVERING IS ANOTHER MEANS TO HELP CONTROL THE NATIONAL COVID-19 CRISIS.

WHICH THE CBD SUGGESTED A CIVIC DUTY RELYING ON A HIGHLY EFFECTIVE LOW TECH SOLUTION THAT CAN HELP TURN THE SIDE FAVORABLY IN NATIONAL AND GLOBAL EFFORTS AGAINST COVID-19.

FOR THE BEST PROTECTION GUIDELINES ARE HOMEMADE CLOTH MASKS SHOULD STIPULATE MULTIPLE LAYERS AT LEAST THREE.

HOWEVER, EVEN A SINGLE LAYER FACE COVERING IS BETTER THAN NO FACE COVERING. SECOND RESPONSE REGARDING VACCINES. RE-- RESEARCHERS AROUND THE WORLD ARE DEVELOPING MORE THAN 165 VACCINES AND 27 ARE IN HUMAN TRIALS. VACCINES TYPICALLY REQUIRE YEARS OF RESEARCH AND TESTING BEFORE REACHING THE CLINIC.

BUT SCIENTISTS ARE RACING TO PRODUCE A SAFE AND EFFECTIVE VACCINE BY NEXT YEAR. SCIENTISTS ARE USING A RANGE OF TECHNIQUES SOME OF WHICH ARE WELL ESTABLISHED AND SOME OF WHICH HAVE NEVER BEEN APPROVED FOR MEDICAL USE BEFORE.

WORK BEGAN IN JANUARY WITH THE DECIPHERING OF THE COVID COVID-9 GENOME. BUT THE ROAD AHEAD REMAINS UNCERTAIN. SOME TRIALS WILL FAIL AND OTHERS MAY END WITHOUT A CLEAR RESULT. BUZZ A FEW MAY SUCCEED IN STIMULATING THE IMMUNE SYSTEM TO PRODUCE THE ANTIBODIES AGAINST THE VIRUS. THE VARIOUS APPROACHES INCLUDE ONE GENETIC VACCINES. VACCINES THAT USE ONE OR MORE OF THE CORONAVIRUS OWN GENES TO PROVOKE AN IMMUNE RESPONSE.

THE SECOND TYPE VIRAL VECTOR VACCINES.

THAT USE A VIRUS TO DELIVER CORONAVIRUS GENES INTO THE CELLS AND PROVOKE THE IMMUNE RESPONSE. SEVERAL ARE USED TO VACCINATE ANIMALS AGAINST RABIES. THREE, PROTEIN BASED VACCINES MADE UP OF VIRUS LIKE PARTICLES USE A CORONAVIRUS PROTEIN OR A PROTEIN FRAGMENT TO PROVOKE AN IMMUNE RESPONSE.

SOME VACCINES ARE PARTICLES THAT CONTAIN PIECES AND THOSE ARE CALLED VIRUS LIKE PARTICLE VACCINES.

THEY CANNOT CAUSE THIS -- BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ACTIVE VIRUSES BUT THEY CAN STILL SHOW THE IMMUNE SYSTEM WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. NOW -- WHERE YEAST OR OTHER CELLS CAN BE ENGINEERED -- WHICH ARE THEN HARVESTED AND PUT INTO VACCINES. FOR EXAMPLE VACCINES AGAINST SHINGLES AND HEPATITIS B. THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHERS THAT ARE IN ACTIVATED THAT USE A WEEKEND OR IN ACTIVATED VERSION.

AND THEN THE LAST FORM THAT I DISCOVERED WAS CALLED REPURPOSE VACCINES. THOSE VACCINES ARE ALREADY IN

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NOW LAST MONDAY MORNING THE FIRST LARGE LATE STAGE TRIAL TO STUDY THE SAFETY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE CORONAVIRUS VACCINE IN THE UNITED STATES WAS LAUNCHED.

MAY DERN A A BIOTECH COMPANY BASED IN MASSACHUSETTS DEVELOPED THESE. IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NIH THEY FOUND THAT THE TEST IN MONKEYS SHOWED PROMISE.

THIS CORONAVIRUS VACCINE ENABLED ANIMALS TO QUICKLY CLEAR THE INFECTION FROM THEIR LUNGS. WHILE THIS DOES NOT GUARANTEE THE SAME IN PEOPLE THIS IS CONSIDERED ENCOURAGING.

IN MARCH THE COMPANY PUT THE FIRST COVID-19 VACCINE INTO HUMAN TRIALS WHICH YIELDED PROMISING RESULTS.

AFTER HAVING CARRIED OUT A PHASE II STUDY LAST MONTH CLINICS AROUND THE COUNTRY BEGAN A PHASE III TRIAL.

WITH THE AIM OF ENROLLING 30,000 PEOPLE WHO NOT HAVE THE RESPIRATORY ILLNESS. THIS LATE STAGE TRIAL IS DESIGNED TO EVALUATE THE SAFETY OF THE VACCINE AND DETERMINE IF THE VACCINE CAN PREVENT SYMPTOMATIC COVID-19 AFTER TWO DOSES. THE STUDY ALSO SEEKS TO ANSWER IF THE VACCINE CAN PREVENT DEATH AND IF JUST ONE DOZE CAN PREVENT SYMPTOMATIC COVID-19. RESULTS OF A SMALL EARLY STAGE STUDY SHOWED VOLUNTEERS WHO GOT TWO DOSES HAD HIGH LEVELS OF VIRUS KILLING ANTIBODIES THAT EXCEEDED THE AVERAGE LEVEL SEEN IN PEOPLE WHO HAD RECOVERED FROM COVID-19.

THEY STATED THAT IT REMAINS ON TRACK AND DELIVERED ABOUT 500 MILLION DOSES A YEAR. A SECOND COMPANY PFIZER ANNOUNCED LATE MONDAY AFTERNOON THAT IT ALSO HAD BEGUN A LATE STAGE STUDY OF A CORONAVIRUS VACCINE.

PFIZER HAS BEEN WORKING WITH A GERMY COMPANY.

THEIR STUDY ALSO INCLUDES 30,000 PEOPLE FROM 39 STATES IN THE U.S. AND FROM BRAZIL, ARGENTINA AND GERMANY.

THE FIRST SUBJECTS RECEIVED INJECTIONS LAST MONDAY.

BOTH VACCINES USE A VERSION OF GENETIC MATERIAL FROM PART OF THE CORONAVIRUS. THAT HELP IT GET INTO THE HUMAN CELLS. THE GENETIC MATERIAL CALLED MESSENGER RNA PROMISES THE CELLS TO TURN OUT A TINY PIECE OF THE VIRUS. IF THE PERSON IS THEN EXPOSED TO THE REAL VIRUS THE IMMUNE SYSTEM WILL ATTACK IT.

THE LAST REQUEST ASKED BY COMMISSIONER JOHN, AIR BOURNE CORONAVIRUS. WHAT SHOULD WE KNOW.

THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION HAS LONG HELD THAT THE CORONAVIRUS IS SPREAD PRIMARILY THAT ONCE EXPELLED BY INFECTED PEOPLE FALL QUICKLY TO THE FLOOR.

MOUNTING SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE HOWEVER SUGGEST THAT A NOVEL CORONAVIRUS CAN STAY ALOFT FOR HOURS IN TINY DROPLETS IN STAGNANT AIR AND INFECT INDIVIDUALS AS THEY INHALE.

IT IS BELIEVED THAT THIS RISK IS HIGHEST IN CROWDED INDOOR SPACES WITH POOR VENTILATION. AND MAY HELP EXPLAIN SUPER SPREADING EVENTS REPORTED IN MEAT PACKING PLANTS, CHURCHES AND RESTAURANTS. HOW ARE AEROSOLS DIFFERENT FROM DROPLETS? AEROSOLS ARE DROPLETS.

DROPLETS ARE AEROSOLS. THEY DIFFER ONLY IN SIZE.

SCIENTISTS SOMETIMES REFER TO DROPLETS LESS THAN FIVE MICRONS IN DIAMETER AS AEROSOLS. FOR A VIRUS TO BE AIRBORNE MEANS THAT IT CAN BE CARRIED THROUGH THE AREA IN A VIABLE FORM.

FOR MOST PATHOGENESIS THIS IS A YES/NO SCENARIO.

HIV IS TOO DELICATE TO SURVIVE OUTSIDE OF THE BODY.

IT IS NOT AIRBORNE. MEALS IS AIRBORNE AND DANGEROUSLY SO. IT CAN SURVIVE UP TO TWO HOURS.

FOR THE CORONAVIRUS THE DEFINITION HAS BEEN MORE COMPLICATED. EXPERTS AGREE THAT THE VIRUS

DOES NOT TRAVEL LONG DISTANCES. >> REPORTER: MAIN VIABLE

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THE SINGING MAY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE TRANSMISSION THROUGH THE EMISSION OF AEROSOLS. OTHER SCRUTINIZED SUPER SPREADING CASES WHERE THE VIRUS TRANSMITTED THROUGH THE AIR MAY HAVE PLAYED A ROLE INCLUDE ONE THE CASE INVOLVED IN A RESTAURANT IN THE CHINESE CITY WHERE FAMILIES FROM THREE ADJACENT TABLES WERE INFECTED. AT THE UNIVERSITY OF HONG KONG -- IT WAS DESCRIBED HOW AIR CURRENTS FLOW IN AN UPWARD PLUME LIFTED BY THE WEATHER OF THE HUMAN BODY.

HE SUSPECTS THE PARTICLES WENT INTO THE AIR-CONDITIONING WHICH THEN BLEW TO THE OTHER TABLES. NONE OF THE OTHER DINERS OR WAITERS WERE AFFECTED. ANOTHER CASE -- HE SAT IN THE BACK OF THE BUS BUT INFECTED SEVEN OTHERS IN VARIOUS PARTS OF THE VEHICLE. DR. LEE INTERVIEWED THE PATIENTS, DRIVER AND PASSENGERS AND REVIEWED VIDEO FOOTAGE AND FOUND IT ODD THAT THOSE WHO BECAME INFECTED WERE NEARBY.

ONE PASSENGER WAS AS FAR AS WAY AS POSSIBLE AT THE FRONT OF THE BUS. 31 FEET AWAY.

VENTILATION MAY ALSO BE TO BLAME.

IT IS HYPOTHESIZED THAT SUPER EMITTERS WHO RELEASE MORE AEROSOL PARTICLES MIGHT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS AND PREVIOUSLY REPORTED COVID-19 SUPER SPREADING.

WE NEED TO ACCEPT THAT TALKING AND ESPECIALLY SINGING OR SHOUTING ARE AEROSOL GENERATING PROCEDURES.

THEY DO NOT GENERATE AEROSOL ON THE SAME SCALE AS INTUBATION BUT THEY DO SO FOR MUCH LONGER PERIODS OF TIME IN ENVIRONMENTS WITH MUCH LOWER VENTILATION THAN MOST HOSPITALS AND OFTEN WITHOUT MASKS. WHILE SOME STRONGLY SUSPECT THAT AEROSOL TRANSMISSION PLAYS A SUBSTANTIAL ROLE IN THE SPREAD OF COVID-19 CURRENT UNDERSTANDING ABOUT SARS COVID -- IT IS STILL LIMITED. CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO PERFECT EXPERIMENTAL DATA PROVING OR DISPROVING DROPLETS VERSUS AEROSOL BASED TRANSMISSIONS OF COVID-19.

STAY TUNED FOR MORE. THANK YOU.

>> HAVE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS THE CONTACT TRACING?

>> AS REGARDS TO THE CONTACT TRACING, IN THE WHITE PAPER WHICH I SENT TO COMMISSION DEAN AND MS. ANDREWS YESTERDAY UNDER STAFFING ON PAGE FIVE IT COUNTS -- CARES ACT FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED AND HOW THAT HAS BEEN ALLOCATED FOR THE COVID-19 RESPONSE IN MY AGENCY. IT WAS NOT ONLY ALLOCATED FOR CONTACT TRACING BUT FOR ALL OF COVID-19 RESPONSE.

FOR EXAMPLE NURSING FOR TESTING, PERSONS TO ANSWER THE PHONE ETC.

THERE SHOULD BE 30 CONTACT TRACES FOR 100,000 POPULATION TO ADEQUATELY CONTACT TRACE FOR THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.

WE WOULD NEED ABOUT 80 INDIVIDUALS DEDICATED ONLY TO CONTACT TRACING. WITH THE ADDITION OF CARES ACT DOLLARS ONCE THE POSITIONS ARE FILLED WE WOULD HAVE ABOUT 30

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LEAVING A GAP OF 50 NEEDED TO MEET THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

IT'S ESTIMATED THE COST FOR THE ADDITIONAL 50 WOULD BE ABOUT $1.9 MILLION. THANK YOU.

>> ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THIS TRAIN IS MOVING PRETTY FAST AND SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU AND COMMISSIONER JOHN'S AND COMMISSIONER BLOCKER RECEIVED THE WHITE PAPER YESTERDAY AND IF NOT IT MAY BE PREMATURE TO TRY TO MOVE SOMETHING TODAY BUT THE BOTTOM LINE FROM DR. A HAS RAISED THE ISSUE LAST WEEK AND RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM HER AS RECENTLY AS YESTERDAY. THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH COUNTY OFFICE IS IN NEED OF AND REQUESTING OR AT LEAST TELLING US THAT THEY -- THE NEED OF ADDITIONAL ROUGHLY 50 POSITIONS THAT THEY WOULD NEED AN ADDITIONAL $1.9 MILLION.

AGAIN WE'RE SORT OF IN MY MIND DEALING WITH AN IMMEDIATE PROBLEM OR EMERGENCY BUT ALSO WE AS A COMMISSION I UNDERSTANDS NEED TO BE FULLY INFORMED OF ALL OF THE ISSUES DEALING WITH THE BUDGET OF THAT MAGNITUDE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE CERTAINLY I AS A COMMISSIONER IF WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING AND THEN JUSTIFYING WITH AUDITS AND SUCH A REQUEST OF FUNDS FROM THE CARS ACT AND AS WE KNOW ROUGHLY THE $46 MILLION AS I UNDERSTANDS IT THAT WAS APPROPRIATED TO THIS COUNTY FOR COVID-19 RELATED ISSUES WE'VE EARMARKED APPROXIMATELY $29 MILLION AND THAT MONEY REVERTS BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AT THE END OF DECEMBER, DECEMBER 31. SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD AND DOUBLE MORE THAN DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF CONTACT TRACING WHICH BY THE WAY AS RECENTLY AS YESTERDAY AND LISTENING TO GOVERNOR DEFINITE SAN ADVERTISE'S PRESS CONFERENCE HE RECOGNIZED THIS IS AN AREA AS NEEDING TO GO FORWARD. I THINK AT THIS POINT WE SHOULD HAVE A SURE ROW DISCUSSION BUT I WILL MAKE TWO POINTS.

THIS IS FEDERAL MONEY THAT WE WILL BE EARMARKING AND IT WOULD BE MY POSITION THAT ONCE THOSE FUNDS EXPIRE THIS IS A TEMPORARY EMERGENCY. WE'RE NOT ADDING FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES OR IN MY WORLD FTES PERMANENTLY THAT WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IN MULTI-YEARS. WE'RE DEALING WITH A SIX MONTH ISSUE HERE NOT A SIX YEAR ISSUE AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE THIS EXTREMELY TERRIBLE COVID-19 VIRUS UNDER CONTROL BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR WE ALL HOPE.

BUT NOW THAT DR. A HAS COME US TO WITH A RECOGNIZED NEED FUNDING NEED THAT WILL DEAL WITH COVID-19 THROUGH CONTACT TRACING I AM PERSONALLY PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION GOING FORWARD BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS MAY NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME. WE'RE MEETING NEXT TUESDAY SO THERE IS TIME TO DID I -- DIGEST ALL OF THE ASPECTS ON THIS AND

THAT IS MY POSITION. >> THANK YOU.

>> THIS WILL BE A REQUEST FOR STAFF.

WE'VE RECEIVED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDING UP FRONT AND MORE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE. IS THE FUNDING THAT HAS BEEN ALLOCATED IN FULL OR IS THERE SOME OF THAT UP FRONT FUNDING

STILL AVAILABLE? >> COMMISSIONER JOHN'SES.

THE PREVIOUS BOARD MEETING THE BOARD HAS ALLOCATED $24.5 MILLION SO YES THE FIRST PAYMENT THROUGH THE STATE FROM FEDERAL HAS BEEN ALLOCATED IN FULL.

THEY HAVE NOT OF BEEN DISTRIBUTED IN FULL YET BUT THERE ARE MORE FUNDING THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE BASED ON

REIMBURSEMENT. >> SO THE $29 MILLION HAS BEEN RECEIVED AND ALLOCATED FOR EXPENSES BUT NOT EXPENDED.

>> WE'VE RECEIVED $11.5 MILLION AS THE FIRST PAYMENT FROM THE

STATE. >> ARE THOSE FUNDS DEDICATED TO SPECIFIC EXPENSES OR IS THIS $1.9 MILLION AVAILABLE TO BE

USED AS A PORTION OF THE 11.5. >> IT WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE.

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>> OKAY. FUTURE FUNDING DO I REMEMBER CORRECTLY WE HAVE TO EXPEND IT AND REQUEST REIMBURSEMENT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND WE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT WHAT THE TIME LINE WAS TO BALANCE OUR MANAGE OUR CASH FLOW. HAS THAT NUMBER BEEN PROVIDED BY

THE STATE? >> WE MADE INQUIRY YESTERDAY TO THE STATE. AND WE ARE CONTINUOUSLY ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION. THE RESPONSE I RECEIVED YESTERDAY, THEY ARE STILL UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT IS THE REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS. WHAT THE STATE INDICATED WAS THAT THE REIMBURSEMENT THE TIMELINESS AND CASH FLOW ISSUE IS VERY MUCH UNDER PRIORITY AND THEY ASSURED US THAT CASH FLOW SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM HOWEVER WE DON'T HAVE A CLARIFIED

PROCESS AT THIS TIME. >> SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO.

I'M NOT TRYING TO KASS GATE ANYONE BUT BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IF WE SPEND MONEY HOW LONG DO WE FLOAT THE LOAN BEFORE WE EVEN KNOW WE QUALIFY FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

WE STILL HAVE NOT BEEN FULLY REIMBURSED FROM HURRICANE MATTHEW LET ALONE IRMA TO DATE. NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PROCESS. JUST WANT PEOPLE TO REALIZE THE TIME LINE OVER WHICH WE HAVE TO MANAGE CASH FLOW.

IT'S GREAT TO SAY LET'S GO SPEND MONEY.

BUT WE'VE GOT FOR MANAGE THE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE WHEN WE LOOK AT REDUCING OUR AVAILABLE FUNDS IN THIS UPCOMING FINANCIAL FISCAL YEAR SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCING SERVICES DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND THE LIST GOES ON.

WE'VE SPENT $22 MILLION OF OUR RESERVES ALREADY.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE I MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER TO SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT CLEARLY IS NEEDED I WANT TO KNOW WHY THE STATE IS NOT PROVIDING FUNDING TO THE STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WHEN THEY ARE LOOKING TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING AND WE MAY OR MAY NOT GET THAT BACK FROM THE STATE BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION TO VOTE FOR OR AGAINST IT. I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT INFORMATION BEFORE I WOULD SUPPORT IT.

>> I WILL DEFER THE DETAILS TO DR.AL COME.

-- ALLICOCK. THE ISSUE IS THAT IT'S NOT

ADEQUATE. >> IS DR. ALLICOCK STILL ON THE

LINE. >> YES, I AM.

>> THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES IN FRONTS OF ME FROM THE LAST CONSIDERATION AND THANK YOU TO THE DIRECT ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE FACE MASK COVERINGS. BUT IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY YOU STATED THAT IT'S A HUMAN RESOURCES PINCH POINT.

FINDING ADEQUATELY TRAINED AVAILABLE PEOPLE TO SERVE WAS THE PINCH POINT NOT THE FINANCIAL ASPECTS OF BEING ABLE TO PAY FOR THE HUMAN RESOURCES. DO I REMEMBER THAT CORRECTLY?

>> NOT QUITE AS ACCURATE. WE DO HAVE TO RAPIDLY RECRUIT AND HIRE SINCE THE MONEY ONLY BECAME AVAILABLE US TO THE LATTER PART OF JULY. WE DID RECEIVE MS. ANDREWS IS CORRECTED, WE DID RECEIVE FROM THE STATE $2.6 MILLION TO HIRE STAFF FOR THE TOTAL COVID-19 RESPONSE.

INCLUDING ENOUGH IN THERE TO COVER ABOUT 30 CONTACT TRACERS.

WE RECEIVED THAT FUNDING -- IT WAS ALLOCATED AS OF JULY 19.

WE ALSO FRONT AND I HAVE TO BE REIMBURSED FOR.

SO WHAT HAPPENS THEN IS THAT WE LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PICTURE AS COMMISSIONER DEAN HAD SHARED THE IMPORTANCE.

CONTACT TRACING THAT WHILE WE HAVE FUNDING TO LOOK AT OUR WHOLE COVID-19 RESPONSE AND DETERMINE HOW TO MAKE IT MORE OPTIMAL WE HAVE A GAP OF ABOUT 50 CONTACT TRACERS STILL NEEDED MORE SPECIFICALLY WITH SCHOOL OPENING UP THIS MONTH OR EARLY NEXT MONTH. IT WILL REQUIRE EVEN MORE CONTACT TRACING. WE HAVE A GAP OF 50 AND THAT IS TO WHAT I'M REFERRING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE $1.9 MILLION

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IS THAT HELPFUL? >> YES.

IT IS. >> DR. ALLICOCK I HAVE A QUESTION IN REGARD TO THE $1.9 MILLION.

WHAT DOES THAT COVER? -- DO YOU HAVE SPACE AND EQUIPMENT FOR THEM TO DO THIS JOB.

>> AND WHAT PERIOD OF TIME? >> THE PERIOD OF TIME IS SIX MONTHS THROUGH THE END OF DECEMBER.

THIS INCLUDES SALARIES AND THE BENEFITS AND IT INCLUDES EXPENSES. WHICH WOULD INCLUDE EQUIPMENT

ETC. >> DO YOU HAVE A PLACE TO PUT

THEM? >> WE ARE WORKING WITH ST. JOHN'S COUNTY STAFF. YOUR STEAM TO -- WE ARE RETROFITTING OR MAKING CUBICLES. WE'VE ORDERED THE CUBICLES FOR THE CONFERENCE ROOM IN THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES BUILDING AND LOOKING TO CONVERT A ROOM INTO SPACE THAT WE CAN ALSO UTILIZE FOR CONTACT TRACERS.

>> ALRIGHTY. >> AND HOW WE CAME ONE OUR NUMBERS IS THE STATE USES THE BIOLOGICAL SCIENTISTS THE THREE POSITIONS IN TERMS OF SALARY DOLLARS SO WE USED THAT FOR CONTACT TRACERS. ABOUT $21 AN HOUR FOR THEIR PAY

AND THIS IS WHAT THE STATE USES. >> AND LAST TIME YOU HAD MENTIONED I THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING CLOSE TO THE 75.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT SHORT BUT THAT WAS UTILIZING YOUR OWN STAFF SO YOU ARE LOOKING AT HIRING A NEW STAFF TO HANDLE THIS. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> IN ORDER -- WITH THE CORE PUBLIC HEALTH -- TO STAND UP IN SOME FORM WE HAVE REGULATIONS OR RULES OR A FRAMEWORK TO USE NOVEL COVID-19. SO WHEN WE SEE CLIENTS WE HAVE TO BEFORE -- WE ACTUALLY BY TELL UPON CALLLY ASESSION THE DAY BEFORE TAKEN THROUGH A QUESTIONNAIRE AND THEN WHEN THEY COME HERE WE AGAIN FOLLOW-THROUGH WITH THAT THEN REQUIRE A MUCH MORE LABORIOUS AND DEMANDING TYPE OF PROCESS IN ORDER TO STAND UP CORE PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES AND ONE THIRD OF OUR CURRENT STAFF THAT IS OUR REGULAR -- THE PERMANENT STAFF HAVE BEEN QUARANTINED OR NOT AVAILABLE HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF A VULNERABLE POPULATION SO THEY ARE NOT ACTUALLY IN OFFICE OR IN THE BUILDING SO AGAIN WE ARE STYMIED IN EVERY DIRECTION TRYING TO MAINTAIN ANY FORM OF CORE PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES AND KEEPING COVID-19 AS OPTIMAL AS WE CAN TO STOP THE

SPREAD OF COVID-19. >> OKAY.

HELP ME OUT. I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW THE MONEY AND THE LOGIC TO IT. THE STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT NEEDS THE FUNDING, THE COMMISSION IS CONSIDERING SPENDING THE FUNDING. TO ASK THE STATE TO REIMBURSE THE COUNTY FOR THE FUNDS NEEDED BY THE STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WHICH WILL TAKE MAN POWER AND TIME AND COST.

WHY NOT CUT OUT OF THE MIDDLE MAN OF THE GOVERNMENT AND HAVE THOSE WHO ARE MAKING THE DECISION TO JUSTIFY THAT IT'S NEEDED WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT RATHER THAN THROUGH THE COUNTY AND BACK TO THE STATE AGAIN WITH THE OVERHEAD THAT THAT WILL INCUR. THIS IS AN EXPERIENCE ASSOCIATED WITH THE TIME AND RESOURCES AND TRACKING.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS ARGUING THAT IT'S NOT NEEDED.

CLEARLY IT'S NEEDED. STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS THE RIGHT ENTITY. WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF HOURS,

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EXPERT TO EXECUTE IT. >> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

THE CHALLENGES IN FRONT OF US ARE DRIVEN BY THE DIVISION OF DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES. I BELIEVE DR. ALLICOCK'S FUNDING IS DIRECTLY FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PULSES AND THEN THERE IS A DIRECT ALLOCATION FROM THE CARES ACT.

46 MILLION CARES ACT ALLOCATION THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. IT'S NOT UNCONCEIVABLE TO SAY THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CAN SPEAK TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AT THE STATE LEVEL BUT IT'S NOT FOR US TO DECIDE. I CERTAINLY THINK IT WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT IF THE TWO DEPARTMENTS CAN SPEAK TO EACH OTHER BUT WE ARE MAKING DECISIONS TO VERY DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES AND THAT IS THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE HERE.

>> BUT THE SOURCES ARE STILL ORIGINATING -- THEY ARE ORIGINATING, CONTROLLED, VETTED AS THEY NEED TO BE AT THE STATE OR FEDERAL LEVEL. ARE WE ACTING AS A FACILITATOR SIMILAR TO PERMITTING WHERE IT'S A NECESSITY FOR US TO PROCESS THE PAPERWORK OR IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE? I'M MISSING SOMETHING AND I HAVE TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY DETAILED QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS BEFORE TODAY. I DON'T WANT TO DELAY HEALTH CARE NEEDS BUT ALSO DON'T WANT TO EXPEDITE FUNDING ONLY TO FIND OUT WE'VE GOT A 20% SURCHARGE OF TAXPAYER MONEY BY COMING THROUGH THE COUNTY WHEN THERE IS A MORE DIRECT LESS TIME-CONSUMING LESS

COSTLY METHOD. >> I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAL GO RHYTHMISM THAT DR. ALCOTT'S FUNDING IS DETERMINED.

FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY TO RECEIVE THE FUNDING THAT IS BASED ON OUR POPULATION AND WE DO NOT HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE FEDERAL U.S. TREASURY BECAUSE WE'RE UNDER 500,000 POPULATION. SO OUR GRANTOR IS THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. THE PURPOSE OF THE FUNDING IS BROADER. IT IS DIRECTLY TO RESPOND TO COVID-19 CRISIS AND CONTACT TRACING IS ONE OF THE VERY DIRECT RESPONSES THAT WE CAN PROVIDE.

SO IT IS WITHIN THE REALITY OF ELIGIBILITY.

I THINK IT'S THIS BOARD'S DECISION TO BE MADE IF WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT ALLOCATING ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM THE LOCAL CARES ACT FUNDING TO STRENGTHEN THE CONTACT TRACING.

>> SO IS THIS AN OVER SIMPLIFICATION TO SAY THIS IS THE BEST AVENUE TO MEET THIS NEED.

THERE IS NOT ANOTHER RESOURCE THAT WOULD BE LESS TIME SON --

TIME-CONSUMING. >> SHE WOULD NEED TIME TO MAKE

THAT DETERMINATION. >> I'M LOOKING TO YOU GUYS TO GIVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER. NOT EXPECTING IT TODAY.

THAT IS WHY WE HAVE A VETTING PROCESS AND THAT IS WHY I LIKE TO PROVIDE THE SUFFICIENT TIME THAT STAFF NEEDS TO MAKE THAT

DETERMINATION. >> I WOULD SAY THIS IS THE ONLY OPTION THAT IT IS UNDERSTAND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S CONTROL.

WE DO NOT GET TO DECIDE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WHAT FUNDING

THE STATE GETS. >> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS I THINK THOSE WERE EXCELLENT QUESTIONS THAT YOU RAISED.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU. I FIND SOMETIMES DEALING WITH FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL FUNDING PARTNERSHIPS TO BE ALMOST LIKE PLAYING THREE DIMENSION, CHECKERS.

IT GETS REALLY COMPLEX AND YOU SORT OF HAVE TO START PULLING THAT STRING AND UNWIND IT UNTIL YOU GET TO THE SORT OF THE

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THAT IS WHY I SAID AT THE OUTSET I'M NOT SURE WE CAN ACT ON THIS TODAY. WE STILL NEED TO ACT WITH OUR EYES OPEN AND WITH FULL INFORMATION.

I WOULD ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE CURRENT STATE FUNDING FOR OUR COUNTY DOH OFFICE. IS THAT $2.6 MILLION AS I WOULD SAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE STATE.

67 COUNTIES AND YOU'VE GOT A STATE AGENCY DIVVYING UP THOSE FUNDS THAT $2.6 MILLION IS PROBABLY THE MOST THAT OUR LOCAL DOH OFFICE IS GOING TO RECEIVE IN MY OPINION.

I'M NOT SURE THAT ANYONE FROM DOH WOULD WANT TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY BUT BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE IN GOVERNMENT I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY AS MUCH AS THEY ARE GOING TO RECEIVE.

WHAT DR. ALLICOCK HAS SUGGESTS THAT IN ORDER TO MEET THE NEEDS DEALING WITH CONTACT TRACING HER OFFICE NEEDS AN ADDITIONAL $1.9 MILLION. AGAIN I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND IN FACT IF YOU AS MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT YOU'VE GOT A SUFFICIENT LEVEL OF INFORMATION TO GO FORWARD I WOULD CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THAT DECISION.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN. MY QUESTION IS THIS IN REGARD TO THIS $1.9 MILLION. THAT IS WHY I WANTED EXPANSIVE KNOWLEDGE IN WHAT IT INCLUDED. IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SPACE AND DR. ALLICOCK MENTIONED WE HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS IN ORDER TO TRANSFORM SOME OF THE FACILITIES THAT THE COUNTY OWNS IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THESE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES AND DOING THE JOB DURING THIS EMERGENCY. BUT TAKING THOSE AND DISASSEMBLING THEM AND ALTERING AND REPURPOSING THE USE OF THESE FACILITIES IS THAT ALL INCLUDED IN THE $1.9 MILLION.

CUBICLES AND WALLS AND TELEPHONES AND REWIRING? IT LOOKS MORE THAN JUST MERELY 50 EMPLOYEES.

>> I THINK DR. ALLICOCK WOULD BE THE BEST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WE CAN WORK WITH DR. ALLICOCK AND BRING BACK A LINE ITEM AND OPERATIONAL PLAN IT NEEDS TO BE THOROUGHLY VETTED. GOING BACK TO THE $1.9 MILLION WHAT DOES IT INCLUDE? WE HAVE TO RESTORE SOME OF THE FACILITIES BACK. IS THAT INCLUDED IN.

>> THIS IS DR. ALLICOCK. YES.

IT INCLUDES THE CUBICLES. YES.

IT DOES. >> AND RESTORATION OF THE

FACILITIES AS WELL? >> AT THIS POINT IN TIME THERE SHOULD BE MINIMAL RESTORATION SINCE WE'RE PUTTING IN CUBICLES VERSUS DESTROYING ANYTHING OR RECEIPT FITTING ANYTHING.

-- RETROFITTING ANYTHING. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WILL BE A NECESSITY FOR ANY CHANGE IN THE STRUCTURE.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. TO ME IT'S A STUNNING NUMBER COMMISSIONER DEAN BECAUSE LAST WEEK WE TALKED IT WAS $200,000 TO $300,000 AND NOW TO NEARLY $2 MILLION.

I UNDERSTANDS IT CAME TO A NUMBER AT 50 AS WELL AND RESTORATION OF CORE EFFORTS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT ETC. BUT TO ME IT WAS A STUNNING NUMBER AND THAT IS WHY I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHERE THAT NUMBER WAS DERIVED.

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

FIRST I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER DEAN FOR BRINGING THIS UP. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

DR. ALLICOCK THIS IS FUNDING THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM NEED IS

THAT CORRECT? >> YES.

BUT I DO HAVE TO SAY THAT I AM VERY HUMBLE AND HAPPY TO HAVE RECEIVED FUNDING FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH FOR COVID-19. AND IT WAS CERTAINLY A BLESSING TO RECEIVE THE $2.6 MILLION. WHEN I BROUGHT THIS FORTH IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER DEAN'S QUESTIONS LAST WEEK AS TO OUR NEEDS. AND FOR US HERE AT THE LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT THIS HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO

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I'M HERE TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS THE COMMISSIONER DEAN SHARED LAST WEEK BUT I'M EXTREMELY HUMBLED AT HAVING RECEIVED $2.6 MILLION FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

>> ABSOLUTELY. DR. ALLICOCK I APPRECIATE YOUR TEAM AND Y'ALL WORK WITH LIMITED RESOURCES AND MANNING.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR.

BECAUSE IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM FEELS THIS IS IMPORTANT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE NOTE OF AND TRYING TO TO BE RESPONSIVE. THIS IS FUNDING THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM FEEL THAT YOU NEED AND WE HAVE SCHOOL STARTING UP WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS FUNDING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO US AS A COUNTY TO HELP PROVIDE. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES. OUR BOARD -- IT IS REALLY UP TO YOUR DISCRETION AND IT WOULD BE PRESUMPTIVE OF ME TO SUGGEST WHAT YOU SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT DO.

THIS IS A NEED BASED ON THE QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONER DEAN. BUT AGAIN WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE $2.6 MILLION MORE THAN WE HAD TWO WEEKS AGO. WE DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHATEVER THE RESOURCES ARE AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

>> BUT YOU NEED ADDITIONAL PEOPLE TO DO CONTACT TRACING?

>> YES. WE.

DO. >> AND THIS IS FUNDING THAT

WOULD BE USED TO PAY FOR THAT. >> YES.

>> OKAY. I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF, MY UNDERSTANDING -- I HAVE SOME RECENT EXPOSURE TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS KANSAS CITY FAIRLY COMMON FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THE FUNDING FOR OUR PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

IS THAT IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING AS WELL?

>> I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER COUNTY AND THIS IS NOT WITHIN MY KNOWLEDGE TO KNOW OTHER COUNTY GOVERNMENTS SUPPLEMENTING THE CONTACT TRACING SPECIFICALLY BUT THIS BOARD SPECIFICALLY HAD IN THE PAST SUBSIDIZED DOH AND ITS OPERATION.

>> OKAY. WELL MAYBE I DIDN'T ASK THE QUESTION APPROPRIATELY. ARE YOU AWARE OF THIS COUNTY OR OTHER COUNTIES PROVIDING FUNDING TO SUPPLEMENT THE DEPARTMENT OF

THE PUBLIC HEALTH. >> WE CAN DO SOME RESEARCH.

>> FOR US TO PROVIDE THESE FUNDS THIS WOULD BE LEGAL AND WITHIN OUR FRAMEWORK AND AUTHORITY AS A BOARD.

CORRECT? >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE. THERE WOULD BE FINDINGS BY THE BOARD. THIS IS OLD OPINION ABOUT GOING TO A SCHOOL BOARD AND THAT AGO SAID THAT WAS NOT A PROPER USE BECAUSE THE SCHOOL BOARD SHOULD BE DOING THAT.

BUT THIS IS IN THE CONTEXT OF A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY.

AND SO I BELIEVE THAT THE DECISION TO DO THAT WOULD BE

DEFENDABLE. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

IF CAN I SPEAK TO OUR FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS.

I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER DEAN BRINGING THIS UP.

I THINK CONTACT TRACING IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT AS WE ADDRESS THIS. WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND OR BE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR US TO DIRECT STAFF TO COME UP WITH A PLAN WITH HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT THIS AS FAR AS TIME LINES AND VETTING IT AND BRINGING IT BACK TO TAKE ACTION ON IT.

THESE ARE IMPORTANT TIMES WHERE WE AS LEADERS CAN STEP UP AND ADDRESS THIS. THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY AT STAKE HERE AND A LOT OF US ARE AWARE OR WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL AS STEWARDS WITH OUR TAXPAYERS DOLLARS BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT AND SOMEWHAT UNPRECEDENTED AND THERE IS A STRONG VALUE TO CONTACH SCHOOLS STARTING BACK UP.

THIS IS IMPORTANT TO MITIGATING THIS AND GETTING THIS UNDER CONTROL. SO I WOULD BE WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS. I WOULD RECOMMEND STAFF TO COME

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BACK WITH SOME ACTION ITEMS. >> YES.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SECOND THAT MOTION THAT COMMISSIONER BLOCKER MADE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE STAFF COME BACK AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE EMERGENCY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT CANNOT HAPPEN WITHIN THE NEXT SIX HOURS BUT IT MAY HAPPEN BY

NEXT TUESDAY. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS DISCUSSION?

ON THIS MOTION I GUESS. >> I DO APPRECIATE THIS BECAUSE YOU NEED TO PROPERLY VET THIS AND I DON'T THINK ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ALL OF THE FACTS YET BECAUSE WE AS TAXPAYERS ARE THE ONES FOOT THING THE BILLS.

SO IT SHOULD BE MAYBE NEXT TUESDAY.

HOPEFULLY I WILL BE NOTIFIED TOO AND THIS CAN BE HAND APPROPRIATELY WITH THE WHITE PAPER.

THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT?

ONE CALL IN? >> REYNOLDS.

15 BRINGING TEEN COURT. ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA.

COLLISIONERS IN I'M HEARING SLOWING MONEY AT -- THROWING MONEY AT SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST YET.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT STAY WITHIN THEIR MEANS. HIRE A FEW PEOPLE AND GET IT OFF THE GROUND BECAUSE I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS CONTACT TRACING.

JUST PICTURE A CONTACT TRACER CALLING DOUG WOULD YOUS OH AND ASKING SOME QUESTIONS. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GIVE INFORMATION OUT.

I LISTENED TO THIS AND I'M BAFFLED.

I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A TYPICAL THROWING MONEY, THROWING MONEY, THROWING MONEY AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY FOR IT YET.

I THINK YOU'RE LATE TO THE DANCE.

THIS COVID THIS CONTACT TRACING STARTED A LONG TIME AGO.

I'M SO DISAPPOINTED TO HER. BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY THAT HAS GOT IT. I AM TALKING TO PERSONAL FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. WE CONTACT TOO MANY PEOPLE.

I HOPE THAT YOU LET DR. ALLICOCK AND HER HEALTH DEPARTMENT FIGURE THIS OUT AND YOU WANT TO BRING IT NEXT WEEK BUT I WANT TO REMIND YOU COMMISSIONERS THE GOVERNMENT TROUGH IS GOING TO RUN OUT. AND NOT ONE COMMISSIONER HAS SPOKE UP FOR HAZMAT PAY FOR.DEPUTIES OR FOR THE EMT OR FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE TO CONTACT THE PUBLIC.

SHAME ON THE COMMISSIONERS. THOSE ARE OUR FRONT LINE PEOPLE THAT ARE COUNTY EMPLOYEES. SHAME ON THE SHERIFF FOR NOT BEING OVER HERE ASKING FOR THE MONEY.

SHAME ON BARRY FOX FOR NOT SPEAKING UP FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN CONTACT WITH THE PROTESTORS.

NEITHER ARE ASKING FOR EMERGENCY PAY, HAZMAT PAY.

LET'S PUT THE BRAKES ON THIS AND LET THE DOCTOR AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT GET IT DONE. WHEN THEY NEED MONEY HAVE THEM COME BACK. THIS CONTACT TRACING SEEMS GOOFY. THEY WANT TO HIRE 30 PEOPLE.

NOW THEY WANT 80. I DON'T KNOW COMMISSIONERS.

PLEASE VOTE THIS THING DOWN. THROW THIS THING OUT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GOOD DAY.

>> ONE MORE. GO AHEAD.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. NEWS COMMERCE.

THIS IS ED SLAVE EN. ST. ST. AUGUSTINE.

WE NEED TO BE A CITY ON THE HILL.

AS RONALD REAGAN AND JOHN KERRY SAID.

AND OUR LEADERSHIP IN WASHINGTON AND IN TALLAHASSEE HAS BEEN SUB PAR. WE HAVE -- COUNTY STATE AND FEDERAL AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SKY BEC -- DIE BECAUSE OF IT.

MOSQUITO CONTROL HAS HAD THEIR EMPLOYEES TESTED WHICH THE COUNTY SHOULD DO. THAT IS A LEGAL AND MORALE AND ETHICAL DUTY AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THINGS ARE BEING

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IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING PEOPLE AND STANDING UP FOR EACH OTHER'S RIGHTS AND ABOUT SAYING WE'RE ALL AMERICANS AND WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA THAT MASKS DON'T WORK.

WEAR A MASK. SAVE YOUR LIFE.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE EMPHATIC ABOUT THIS AND THIS IS A CERTAIN IDEOLOGY ABROAD IN ELEMENTS OF THE COUNTY WHERE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE SCIENCE.

WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A SCIENCE ADVISER.

BUT WE COULD DO A LOT BETTER AND I APPRECIATE DR. ALLICOCK AND COMMISSIONER BLOCKER AND COMMISSIONER DEAN.

SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LISTEN BUT WHAT THE BIBLE SAID ABOUT AN UNCERTAIN TRUMPET WHO WILL HEED IT AND WE NEED TO BE EMPHATIC AND MAYBE JUST SAYING IT IS PUBLIC POLICY OF ST. JOHN'S POLICY TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO WEAR MASK.

IF THE SHERIFF SAID HE IS NOT GOING TO ENFORCE THE LAW BECAUSE HE KNOWS BEST AND OBVIOUSLY HE DOESN'T.

I DO APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION AND THE DEBATE.

I TRIED TO CALL IN AND I GOT DISCONNECTED AND I GAVE UP.

BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE TECHNOLOGY AND MAYBE Y'ALL COULD ALLOW THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE TO USE YOUR TECHNOLOGY TO WHERE WE COULD CALL INTO THE MEETINGS BECAUSE IT'S A VIOLATION OF THE

AMERICANS WITH DISABILITY ACT. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT BY PHONE?

SEEING NONE, OKAY. >> BACK TO THE BOARD WITH A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THE MOTION BY CLARITY WOULD BE TO GIVE THIS TO STAFF AND LOOK INTO AND TO HAVE SOMETHING TO PROPOSE BY THE NEXT MEETING.

WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE ROLL CALL VOTE.

>> BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS ISSUE I WANT TO NUMBER ONE PROFUSELY THANK DR.AL COCK FOR HER GOOD WORK AND REMIND EVERYONE THAT SHE DIDN'T SEEK ME OUT. I SOUGHT HER OUT.

SHE DIDN'T COME TO US WITH AN ASK.

I WENT TO HER WITH AN ASK. 8 8 -- SO TO BE CLEAR I GENERATD THIS DISCUSSION AND NOT DR. ALLICOCK.

I WANT TO BRIEFLY IF I MAY COME BACK TO THE ISSUE OF FACIAL COVERINGS OR MASKS FOR OUR COUNTY AND I WILL BE BRIEF BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE ARE A COLLEGIAL BODY AND IF ONE COMMISSIONER MAKES AN ANNOUNCEMENT IT'S NOT AS EFFECTIVE AS SPEAKING AS A WHOLE AS ALL FIVE COMMISSIONERS WE'RE THE HEAD OF THE GOVERNMENT FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AS A COLLEGIAL BODY. IT'S MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE TO TAKE A POSITION AS A COLLEGIAL BODY THAN JUST ONE OF US SPEAKING OUT AND SORT OF ALMOST A VACUUM. SO I'M GOING TO SUGGEST AND ASK FOR A STATEMENT TO BE MADE BY THIS BODY.

AND I'M GOING TO DO IT BY WAY OF A MOTION.

THIS IS NOT A MANDATORY MASK ORDINANCE.

THIS IS NOT EVEN A REQUEST OF ANY KIND MAND MANDATORY.

THE STATEMENT WOULD READ AS FOLLOWS.

THE IS THE JOHN'S COUNTY COMMISSIONERS STRONGLY ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO WEAR MASK SPEAKS WHERE SOCIAL DISTANCING IS NOT NOT POSSIBLE TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF COVID-19. THAT WOULD BE A STATEMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ADOPT AND EMBRACE SO THAT OUR

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>> ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER DEAN HAS MADE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MEETINGS AND A SECOND. WE'LL PROCEED WITH DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER JOHNS. >> HOW DOES THIS DIFFER FROM THE

STRONG RECOMMENDATION? >> THAT STRONG RECOMMENDATION DEALT WITH FOLLOWING THE CDC GUIDELINES MORE THAN SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING THE MASK ISSUE WHICH IS WHY I THINK THAT RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE TO HEAR OR I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR RESIDENTS TO HEAR FROM THIS COMMISSION SPECIFICALLY URGING THEM TO WEAR A MASK WHERE APPLICABLE.

THIS IS A SPECIFIC STATEMENT THAT WE AS A COMMISSION NODE TO

MAKE TO OUR RESIDENTS. >> PREVIOUS MOTION WAS TO FOLLOW CDC GUIDELINES WHICH INCLUDED WEARING MASKS WHERE SOCIAL DISTANCING IS NOT POSSIBLE. RIGHT?

>> MY POSITION MY THOUGHT IS COMMISSIONER JOHNS IS THAT A GOOD NUMBER OF RESIDENTS IN OUR COUNTY WHO ARE LIVING THEIR OWN LIFE TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING, THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR SCHOOLCHILDREN WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL.

THEY DON'T MEMORIZE THE CDC GUIDELINES.

MANY OF THEM MAY NOT KNOW WHAT CDC STANDS FOR.

IT CAN GET CONFUSING. MY OF POSITION AND I'M ASKING FOR A VOTE IS THAT WE AS A COMMISSION MAKE A SPECIFIC STATEMENT REGARDING THE WEARING OF MASKS AND IT'S NOT A MANDATE.

THERE IS NO ENFORCE ME. ISSUE.

IT'S IT'S EXPRESSING THE WILL OF THIS BOARD AND THAT IS MY POSITION. I UNDERSTAND THE SORT OF LIKENESS OF IT BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FOLLOWING THE CDC GUIDELINES AND THE MESSAGE SENT AND RECEIVED BY THE PUBLIC.

THAT IS MY POSITION. >> THANK YOU FOR THE

CLARIFICATION. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

NOW WE OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> VJ -- CLATY. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CHAIR IF I COULD BE THE LAST ONE TO SPEAK AFTER THE PEOPLE OFF THE CELL PHONE. THE PHONING IN WILL BE CALLING IN ON THIS ISSUE AND ONCE THAT IS CLOSED I WOULD LIKE TO COME

BACK. >> I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ON THE PHONE. WE DO HAVE ONE.

>> I DON'T SEE ANY CALLS NOW. >> CAN WE CLOSE THE CALLS TO THE PUBLIC. IF YOU DON'T SEE ANY NOW AND THEN I'LL SPEAK AFTER THEY ARE FINISHED.

>> IF YOU WOULD SAY TO THEM -- IF YOU HAVE NOT CALLED BY NOW THERE WILL BE NO CALLS ON THIS ISSUE.

I'M LOSING MY TIME. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> WE'LL GO TO THE PHONES. IS THERE A CALLER ON THE PHONE?

NAME AND ADDRESS. >> TOM, REYNOLDS.

15 BRINGING TEEN COURT. ST. -- AUGUSTINE BEACH.

>> I THINK THIS WOULD BE OKAY TO PASS THIS.

YOU KNOW SOMETHING? DON'T JUST GO WITH THE FACE MASK. EVERYBODY KNOWS TONY -- HE SAID YOU'VE GOT IS TO BUY EYE GOGGLES NOW.

SO WHY NOT INCLUDE THAT. YOU KNOW WHY DON'T WE ALSO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE GLOVES. WHY NOT RECOMMEND THAT WE GARGLE

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I THINK THE PEOPLE ARE SMART HERE AND THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO WEAR MASKS WEAR MASK. I DON'T WEAR A MASK FOR ANYBODY BUT ME. I DON'T WEAR MY SAFETY GLASSES AND GLOVES FOR ANYBODY BUT ME. THAT IS WHO I'M DOING IT FOR.

I WANT TO LIVE. WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS DO WITHOUT ME. THAT IS WHY I'VE GOT TO LIVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE HUMOR HENRY BECAUSE HE IS

NEVER GOING TO STOP. >> THANKS, TOM.

MORE CALLS. ONE MORE CALL AT LEAST.

1008 SAN RAFAEL STREET. >> YES, GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

>> I AM AGREEING WITH MR. JOHNS THAT I DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED TO UPDATE ANYTHING. I'M NOT AN IDIOT.

I KNOW WHAT CDC STANDS FOR. I THINK THE PEOPLE DO KNOW WHAT THAT STANDS FOR. AND I DON'T THINK WE PLEAD TO MAKE ANY MORE CHANGES. IT WILL GET OUT OF HAND.

AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ONE MORE.

GO AHEAD. YOU'RE ON THE AIR.

NAME AND ADDRESS. >> HI.

ED SLAVE EN. ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER DEAN AND BLOCKER FOR MAKING THE MOTION.

I SUPPORT IT. THIS IS COMMON SENSE.

THE FUNDAMENTAL PUBLIC POLICY -- DID YOU GET CUT OFF? HELLO. ANYBODY IN THE CONTROL ROOM KNOW

WHAT IS GOING ON? >> HELLO.

>> HELLO. WENDY STAFF OF 2714 LOS CALINAS

BOULEVARD IN ST. AUGUSTINE. >> GO AHEAD.

WENDY. >> I'M CALLING BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S GREAT WHEN PEOPLE TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES TO TAKE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS.

THAT'S AMAZING. THAT IS GREAT AND STORES IN OUR AREA HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDING THAT PEOPLE WHO COME IN STRONGLY RECOMMENDING THAT THEY WEAR A FACE MASK.

NOT ALL BUT SOME OF THE LARGER ONES.

AND WE ALL OF NEED TO GET ON BOARD TO SUPPORT THIS.

WHAT MR. DEAN IS RECOMMENDING IS THE BEST IDEA FOR RIGHT NOW.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A BIG CHANGE WHEN SCHOOL STARTS AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE SCHOOLS CLOSE ALMOST RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE AS DR. FAUCI SAID -- UNLESS THE COMMUNITY.

>> HELLO. >> WE HAVE ANOTHER CALLER ON THE LINE NOW. CALL BACK.

GO AHEAD, WENDY. >> STAND BY, ED.

>> LIKE MR. DEAN IS SAYING CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES. >> LIKE MR. DEAN IS SAYING DR. FAUCI IS ALSO SAYING COMMUNITY SPREAD WHICH IS THE PROBLEM IN FLORIDA AND OTHER PLACES RIGHT NOW IS NOT UNDER CONTROL. THEREFORE THE SCHOOLS WILL CLOSE ALMOST AUTOMATICALLY AND WHAT I QUICKLY WANT TO SAY BY RUN OUT OF TIME IS THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL GET ON BOARD AS A COMMUNITY AND WE'RE ALL SAYING PLEASE WEAR A MASK.

PLEASE WEAR A MASK. PLEASE WEAR A CLASS CAN AND THE REASON WHY IS ALTHOUGH PEOPLE CALLING IN ARE RESPONSIBLE MASK WEARERS THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE NOT.

AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS LIKE RON DESANTIS HAS NOT HAD A MASK MANDATE FOR THE STATE.

AND THAT IS SO IMPORTANT. WE'RE ALL DEALING WITH A HUGE COVID PROBLEM. SOME PEOPLE TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES. WONDERFUL.

KUDOS. GREAT BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE ENOUGH TO SPREAD IT AROUND AND IN CLOSE SPACES THAT

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AND WE DON'T NEED TO SAY OKAY. WE'VE GOT TO WEAR GOGGLES AND THIS. HOWEVER WE'VE GOT TO STATE WITH THE FACE COVERING. ONE LAYER.

IF PEOPLE CAN'T HANDLE THREE. AND WITH THAT I'LL GO NOW AND THANK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR LISTENING.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE ON THE PHONE? ANYONE ELSE ON THE PHONE? YES? 1 ANYONE ELSE ON THE PHONE? GOING, ONE.

>> YES. THIS IS LISA MCCREADY GLENN.

I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE COMMISSIONERS TAKE SOME LEADERSHIP ON THE ISSUE OF MASKS.

THE BIBLE TELLS US TO LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THY SELF AND TREAT OUR NEIGHBORS AS WE WOULD TREAT OURSELVES AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE ISSUE OF MASKS.

WE ALL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT DURING THIS TIME OF OUR HEALTH CRISIS SO PLEASE BE LEADERS AND SUPPORT A MASK. THIS IS NOT A REQUIREMENT BUT IT'S A LEADERSHIP INITIATIVE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. OKAY.

THAT IS IT. BJ, I THINK YOU'RE UP.

>> NAME AND ADDRESS. >> STILL AT THE SAME PLACE.

BJ -- I DON'T BELIEVE -- THE ONE THAT GOT DISCONNECTED IS NOT PERMITTED TO CALL BACK IN. YOU'LL HAVE TO SAY IT'S ALL BEEN CLOSED DOWN FOR THE CALLERS. STRONGLY ENCOURAGED BY THIS BOARD -- DOES NOT NEED TO BE IN WRITING.

PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE CDC EXPECTS OR WANTS US TO DO AND THIS IS A GROUP THAT HAVE WORKED WITH MR. DEAN WHICH IS FINE.

AND NOW MR. BLOCKER. WE KNOW HOW ALL OF YOU STAND ON THIS. AND THIS IN WRITING IS A STEP TOWARDS -- MAYBE MANDATING . YOU DON'T NEED ANYTHING IN WRITIG I BELIEVE EVERYBODY WHO HAS CALLED IN ON THIS ISSUE FOR OR AGAINST THESE MANDATORY MASKS KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE FOUR OF YOU HAVE STAND. AND WE KNEW WHERE MR. -- WARNEN STOOD. HIS VOTE MAY CHANGE BUT RIGHT NOW WE UNDERSTOOD HOW YOU ALL FELT AND WE CAN GO OVER AND GO OVER AND GO OVER AND JUST LIKE THE OTHER TWO THAT KEEP CALLING IN. EITHER SUPPORTING OR NOT SUPPORTING -- THEY UNDERSTAND IF YOU KEEP ON AND YOU KEEP ON YOU'VE GOT TO GET ONE OTHER PERSON TO GO ALONG WITH THE TWO THAT WANTS MANDATORY AND I DON'T BELIEVE THIS COUNTY NEEDS TO GO IS THAT WAY OR PUT ANYTHING MORE IN WRITING.

IT WAS CLEAR. YOU WEAR A MASK.

YOU SOCIAL DISTANCE AND YOU WASH YOUR HANDS WHICH YOU KNEW WHEN YOU WERE A LITTLE KID SO I'M STRONGLY AGAINST THIS.

STRONGLY AGAINST ANYTHING BEING PUT IN WRITING.

I DON'T THINK IT IS NECESSARY AND I THINK IT'S BROWBEATING PEOPLE. AND IT'S HARD TO STAND UP WHEN EVER YOU SEE HOW YOU CAN REPEAT, REPEAT, REPEAT AND REPEAT AND FORCE PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU GET BROWBEAT BY SOME PEOPLE FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO STAND FOR AND I'M GLAD PEOPLE ARE READING THE BIBLE. WE NEED TO DO WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS INSTEAD OF JUST SPOUTING WORDS ABOUT IT.

SO LET'S SEE WHAT THE VOTE IS GOING TO BE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY.

AND TURN IT BACK TO YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC COMMENT NOW CLOSED.

WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE'LL PROCEED WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE IN REGARD TO THIS STATEMENT TO BE PUT FORWARD BY THE BOARD

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ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION NEXT TUESDAY ON THE CONTACT TRACING.

THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE A PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD THIS

AFTERNOON? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I WANT TO THANK OUR STAFF FOR THEIR BRIEFINGS AND HARD WORK.

I APPRECIATE EVERYONE WORKING UNDER TOUGH CONDITIONS.

HAVING A HURRICANE COMING AS WELL AS THE PANDEMIC BUT I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORKING STAFF THAT REALLY IS MAKING OUR CITIZENS PROUD AND PUTTING IN THE HARD WORK AND LOOK FORWARD TO SOME ISSUE THAT'S WE'LL ADDRESS NEXT TUESDAY.

THANK YOU. >> LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR SOON

RETURN, COMMISSIONER. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS.

>> I WANT TO THANK THE LACROSSE CLUB FOR DONATING JUST UNDER $10,000 FOR THE INSTALLATION FOR A SENATE WALL AND LIGHTING.

I BROUGHT THESE UP IN THE PAST. I JUST WANTED TO BRING OUT SOME RECOGNITION. PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR SOMETHING AND THEY HAVE A USE FOR IT AND THE RESOURCES AND THEY STEP UP AND TAKE CARE OF WHAT IS NECESSARY PERSONALLY RATHER THAN EXPECTING OTHERS TO DO IT FOR THEM.

WE HAVE LIMITED FINANCIAL AND HUMAN RESOURCES AND IT'S ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THIS THAT MAKE OUR COMMUNITY NUMBER ONE IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. I WANTED TO THANK THEM FOR THAT.

I HESITATE TO GET INTO THE POLITICS OF PEOPLE'S PERSONAL HEALTH. I'M NOT ONE TO DUPLICATE AND INCREASE THE COMPLEXITY OF REGULATIONS ON OUR CITIZENS OR TO SEE UNENFORCEABLE MANDATES IMPOSED BY GOVERNMENT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE EFFECTIVE BASED ON THE COMMENTS FROM THE HEALTH CARE DEPARTMENT AND I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE COMMUNITY FOR HAVING TO DECIPHER BETWEEN FACT AND FICTION BASE ENDS ON THE

LEADERSHIP OF OUR COMMUNITY. >> I HAVE A FEW SOME THINGS.

JUST STOOD FOR THOUGHT. CORN HARVEST CONTINUES.

YIELDS AND QUALITY ARE VARYING. GRATEFUL TO NOT HAVE A LOT OF-WINDS. -- THEY ARE BEGINNING TO BE CHOPPED DOWN. IF YOU ARE FROM WHERE I LIVE AND HAVE BEEN RAISED HERE THAT BRINGS A SENSE OF FALL IS AROUND THE CORNER AND ALSO A CERTAIN FRAGRANCE ATTACHED TO IT THAT IS ALMOST INTOXICATING. THE GROUND IS BEING PREPARED FOR FALL AND WINTER CROPS. SOME BROCCOLI WILL BE PLANTED AND SQUASH LIKELY. I DRIVE-BY A FIELD OF CITRUS THAT IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. THE SOD IS STEADY AND MOVING AS WELL. THAT IS A REPORT FROM THE FARMING COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AT THIS POINT.

ADMIN. >> YES, SIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON. BRAD BADLY.

DEP COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. DR. ALLICOCK GAVE A COUPLE OF NUMBERS. RESIDENTS HOSPITALIZED TO DATE.

171. IS THAT UP 22.

THERE HAS BEEN 38362 TESTS WHICH IS WELL OVER 3,000 MORE THAN THE LAST REPORT. 29 RESIDENTS CURRENTLY REMAIN HOSPITALIZED. AND THERE WERE 369 NEW CASES IN THE LAST SEVEN DAYS. WHICH AVERAGED 52.7 WHICH IS DOWN 11 FROM THE WEEK BEFORE WHICH WAS 64 CASES PER DAY.

BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REPORT THAT THE LOCAL REFERENCE FOR PROCUREMENT IS GETTING CLOSE TO COMPLETION AND WILL BE ABLE TO BE BROUGHT WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

JESSIE DUNN AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSION TO KNOW THAT THE NAMED EVENT THIS WEEKEND EVEN THOUGH IT DIDN'T HIT US AND WE WERE BLESSED WITH THAT THAT ALL DEPARTMENTS PERFORMED INCREDIBLY WELL. THEY WERE READY.

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-- ALEXANDER GAVE ANALYSIS THAT WERE RIGHT ON THE MONEY.

I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD HANDS. WE'VE HAD SOME BAD HURRICANES BUT THE UPSIDE TO THAT IS THAT WE KNOW WHAT TO DO.

AND THEY DID VERY WELL. >> AND I KNOW THIS BOARD WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE AND GRATEFUL AS WELL.

ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHTY.

OCA. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER BLOCKER IF YOU'RE STILL ON THE LINE.

THERE WAS A CONSTITUENT THAT MADE A REQUEST KIND OF RAISED THE ISSUE OF A POTENTIAL ST. JOHN'S COUNTY ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO SOLICIT TREAT SOLICITATION, PANHANDLING.

THAT TYPE OF THING. THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT THE COUNTY HAD LOOKED AT SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND AT THAT TIME DID NOT GO FORWARD. FOR THIS TYPE OF ORDINANCE IT WOULD REQUIRE EITHER DIRECTION FROM THE CHAIR OR THE IDEALLY THE BOARD TO GIVE DIRECTION TO DEVELOP AN ORDINANCE.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE BOARD'S RADAR.

THIS JUST CAME UP I THINK IN THE LAST DAY OR TWO.

AND WITHOUT ANY BOARD DIRECTION I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO SOME HOMEWORK IT ON AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

PROBABLY NOT AT YOUR NEXT MEETING IN SEVEN DAYS BUT PROBABLY IN 14 DAYS. I JUST WANTED TO AGAIN BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY DIRECTION IF THERE WOULD BE ANY. THANK YOU.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

CAN I RESPOND, PLEASE? >> YES.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> PATRICK I APPRECIATE YOU BRING THAT UP. THAT IS CORRECT.

WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP SEVERAL AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH MR. MCCORMICK WAS SOME CONCERNS -- SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE WAY OUR ORDINANCES IS WRITTEN. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONCERNS.

WE MIGHT WANT TO ADJUST THE ORDINANCE RELATED TO LAWYER ERRING AND SOME OTHER ISSUES SOILED ASK MR. MCCORMICK IF THAT IS SOMETHING HE AND HIS OFFICE CAN LOOK INTO I. A LOT WERE PUT IN PLACE 20-30 YEARS AGO.

THEY WERE PROBABLY EFFECTIVE AT THAT TIME BUT BASED ON OUR OUR COMMUNITY AS CHANGED IT MIGHT BE WORTH LOOKING AT THAT AGAIN.

SO MR. CHAIRMAN IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE -- PATRICK ARE YOU LOOKING INTO BOARD CONSENSUS OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN DO

WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW? >> RIGHT.

I CERTAINLY CAN DO A REVIEW AND SEE WHAT THE COUNTY HAS ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW. SORT OF LOOK AT WHAT THE COUNTY HAD LOOKED AT A FEW YEARS AGO IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL CHANGING OF THAT. AND OBVIOUSLY THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE HAS I THINK TWO YEARS AGO ENACTED AN -- ORDINANCE.

THEIR SITUATION IS DIFFERENT FROM THE COUNTY'S POSITION.

BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ON MY OWN DO SOME HOMEWORK AND BRING BACK A REPORT TO THE BOARD. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE THE BOARD ACTUALLY GIVE DIRECTION ON THAT.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD MAYBE WE CAN ASK MR. MCCORMICK TO BRING US BACK A RECOMMENDATION SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION. I'M NOT SURE I HAVE A FULL GRASP OF ALL OF THE ISSUES AND THAT IS WHY I REACHED OUT TO PATRICK.

>> ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD?

>> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM LOOKING AT IT BUT WITH SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT IS TRYING TO BE ADDRESSED THAT NEEDS TO BE UNDERSTOOD AS WELL AND WE DON'T NEED REGULATIONS JUST TO ADDRESS ONE THING EITHER. BUT IF THERE IS A NEED THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT FORWARD THERE I CERTAINLY DO NOT MIND LOOKING

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INTO IT. >> AND IF I MAY AD I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO REACH OUT TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS ON THIS ISSUE. THEY MAY HAVE SOME IN -- INSIGHT AS TO POTENTIAL CHANGE IN THE REGULATION AND I WILL DO THAT AND I WILL BE PREPARED TO GIVE AN ATTORNEY REPORTS AT YOUR NEXT

REGULAR MEETING AND UPDATE. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER DOES

THAT AT FEW YOUR REQUEST? >> ABSOLUTELY.

YES. THANK YOU.

>> ANYTHING ELSE MR. MCCORMICK.

>> ALL RIGHT. NOTHING ELSE TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.