Jul 21, 2020 Board of County Commissioners

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I WILL CALL TO ORDER THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, JULY 21, 2020. GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE ST.

JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. IN ORDER TO COMMUNICATE THE TRANSMISSION OF THE CORONAVIRUS AND REDUCE RISK OF THE COVID-19 VIRUS THE GOVERNMENT HAS SUSPENDED THE REQUIREMENT OF THE PHYSICAL FORM AND WE HAVE ADOPTED PROCEDURES TO CONDUCT MEETINGS USING REMOTE PARTICIPATIONS OF THE PUBLIC HAS MEANS TO COMMENT WITHOUT PHYSICALLY ATTENDING. ALONG WITH PRIOR COMMUNICATIONS INCLUDING EMAIL, TRAINING TO USE TO CALL AND THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT PARTICIPANTS ARE ADVISED THEY WILL BE LISTENING THAT DON'T PROVIDE, AND THE SPARTANS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES.

THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED. THE CALLING INTO, IF YOU RECEIVE A BUSY SIGNAL, PLEASE CALL BACK. CONTINUE TO WATCH GTV WHILE YOU COMMENT BECAUSE THE TIMER WILL BE VISIBLE TO YOU. PLEASE LEAVE YOUR PHONE WHILE YOU ARE WAITING TO COMMENT.

ALSO BE AWARE THERE MAY BE A 5 TO 9 SECOND DELAY IN VISUAL PRESENTATIONS EVERY EXPERIENCE ANY TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, WE MAY RECESS BRIEFLY TO RESOLVE THEM AND RECONVENED MEETING.

MEETING MATERIALS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE UNDER AGENDA AND MINUTES WHICH YOU WILL FIND THE MEETING AGENDA THERE. YOU CAN CLICK ON THE AGENDA ITEMS TO ACCESS ALL OF THE SUPPORTING MATERIALS. IF WE DO HAVE A REMOTE CONDITIONER AND WE WILL PROCEED WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR ALL THOSE TIME THIS MORNING.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, ARE YOU ONLINE?> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN. I AM.

SPEAKING GOOD MORNING TO YOU. WE WILL NOW ASK THE CLERK TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> JEB SMITH? VICE CHAIR COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH BROCK BLOCKER

>> HERE > COMMISSIONER JAMES JOHNS. >> PRESENT

>> COMMISSIONER PAUL WALDRON >> COMMISSIONER HENRY DEAN. STATED THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I WITH OUR INVOCATION I WILL ASK THE PASTOR TO COME FORWARD AND OFFER THE INVOCATION.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND. >> >> WOULD IT BE OKAY IF I PRAY FOR COMMISSIONER WALDRON? FIRST TUESDAY, CHAPTER 2 VERSE ONE SAYS FIRST OF ALL, PRAYERS INTERCESSIONS AND THANKSGIVING BE MADE FOR ALL PEOPLE. THE KINGS AND ALL WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION TO MAINLY TO PEACEFUL AND QUIET LIFE. GODLY AND DIGNIFIED IN EVERY WAY. THIS IS GOOD AND IT IS PLEASING OF GOD OUR SAVIOR.

I PRAY RIGHT NOW FOR OUR LEADERS TODAY AND I THINK HERE IN JESUS NAME THAT YOU HAVE POSITIONED THEM AT THIS PLACE AT THIS TIME FOR THIS SEASON. AND SO WE JUST PRAY FOR EVERYTHING THAT COMES FROM HAVING TO BE THEIRS TODAY. WISDOM AND FAVOR IN THE ABILITY TO MAKE GREAT DECISIONS FOR OUR COUNTY, FOR OUR COMMUNITY, FOR OUR PEOPLE.

FATHER WE PRAY FOR ME CONTINUE FOR HIS HEALTH AND THAT YOU HEAL HIM AND WE PRAY THAT YOU GIVE HIS FAMILY PEACE AND COMFORT IN THIS TIME AND WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO WORK IN A SITUATION WHERE WE LEFT HIM UP TO YOU AND ASK FOR YOUR BLESSING TODAY IN JESUS

NAME, AMEN. >> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> YOU MAY BE SEATED. WE HAVE A RETIREMENT THIS MORNING.MISS DEBRA RHODES

[Retirement Recognition of Daniel Markus]

GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

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IT REMINDS ME OF THE DOCTOR SEUSS BOOK, OH, THE PLACES YOU WILL GO BECAUSE IN 22 YEARS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THE CHANGES HE HAS SEEN, BOTH IN THE INDUSTRY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE IS COUNTY. HE SAW THE COUNTY THROUGH A PEAK.

OF FUNDING AND OF COMMUNITY GROWTH AND LIBRARY GROWTH. WE ADDED BRANCHES SINCE STAN CAME TO THE SYSTEM, INCLUDING AN EXPANSION OF HIS OWN BUILDING.

TO SOLVE THE COUNTY THROUGH THE GREAT RECESSION AND THE REDUCTION OF LIBRARY HOURS.

THE ELIMINATION OF SOME LIBRARY STAFFING AND, CERTAINLY, THE CHANGES OF OUR OPERATIONAL SERVICES. HE SAW THE CHANGES IN OUR INDUSTRY, AND LIBRARY INDUSTRY FROM A PRINT-BASED PLATFORM OF RESOURCES TO AUTOMATED SYSTEMS AND CDS, DVDS AND BLU-RAY IS BEING CIRCULATED TO STREAMING AUDIO AND VIDEO PLAYLISTS. SO IF YOU THINK OF DANCE PARTY USA, WE HAVE GONE FROM PRINT-BASED TO PLAYLISTS AND MOST RECENTLY, OBVIOUSLY, SOLID QUICK TRANSITION FROM IN-PERSON SERVICES TO VIRTUAL SERVICES WITHIN THE LIBRARY SYSTEM DUE TO THE PANDEMIC. DAN IS LIKED BY HIS STAFF AND HIS COLLEAGUES.

I CAN'T THINK OF ANYONE ELSE IN MY CAREER THAT HAS AGREED TO DO THE MINUTES FOR OUR STAFF MEETINGS FOR 22 YEARS. AS OF NOW, OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS A GAP IN THAT CAPACITY AS WELL.

HE IS ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP OUT BOTH AT LIBRARY EVENTS LIKE THE COMIC CON EVENT AS WELL AS AT OTHER BRANCHES AND ALSO AT THE EEOC OVER HIS CAREER AS NEEDED.

HE IS AN AVID FAMILY MAN AND ENJOYS NOTHING MORE THAN SHARING THE LATEST ACHIEVEMENTS OF HIS DAUGHTERS AND HIS WIFE. HIS FAMILY LOVES TO TRAVEL. I REMEMBER ALL OF THE CAMPING AND ESCAPADES AND SOME OF THOSE ADVENTURES AS WELL. INVITING US TO JOIN HIM TO MEET HIS FAMILY. ALTHOUGH THE LIBRARY SYSTEM WILL MISS HIM I'M CONFIDENT HE AND SALLY HAVE A LIST OF ADVENTURES YOU ENJOY TOGETHER STARTING AUGUST 1. THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE A FEW WORDS HERE. I WROTE IT DOWN SO I WOULD NOT RAMBLE.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE PUBLIC.

I WORKED WITH MANY COUNTY STAFFERS CAN HOPE TO MENTION ON THEM BUT WOULD LIKE TO THINK CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS THAT I HAVE HAD DIRECT CONTACT WITH. FIRST AND FOREMOST THE LIBRARY AND ALL OF THE DEDICATED AND FRIENDLY PEOPLE WHO I HAVE WORKED WITH THT EVERY BRANCH.

THEY KEPT OUR COMPUTERS AND PHONES UP AND RUNNING AND THE HELPFUL CREWS.

EEOC CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AND EVEN ROAD AND BRIDGE THIS HAS BEEN AN AMAZING TIME IN MY LIFE I'M SAD TO LEAVE IN SUCH A TIME INTERMODAL LOOK FORWARD TO SPENDING MORE TIME WITH MY WIFE SALLY AND MY DAUGHTER, SAMANTHA AND KIMBERLY. THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] >> IN KEEPING WITH ALL OF YOUR ADVENTURES.

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>> CONGRATULATIONS, MR. MARCUS, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. WE WILL DEVIATE A LITTLE BIT

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REPORT? >> GOOD MORNING. BRAD BRADLEY, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. IN PRESENTING THE MOST CURRENT DATA PROVIDED TO THE COUNTY FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. THESE NUMBERS ARE CURRENT AS OF 1:00 YESTERDAY.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS HAVE TESTED POSITIVE FOR 2019 IS 2515 AT THIS TIME.

THE TOTAL RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN TESTED WAS 32,119. THE TOTAL RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN HOSPITALIZED 125, THE TOTAL FATALITIES, 16. THE POSITIVITY RATE IS 7.9 AND THE NEW CASE AVERAGE FOR THE LAST SEVEN DAYS IS 87 CASES PER DAY.

THIS IS THE LATEST NUMBER. IF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM HERE BUT ALSO

AVAILABLE IS DOCTOR ALCOTT BY PHONE. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: THANK

YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? >> HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY RECENT UPDATES ON THE AVAILABILITY OF THE BED AND I SEE EVENTS SPECIFICALLY FROM FLAGLER

HOSPITAL? >> COMMISSIONER, I BELIEVE MR. GIAMMANCO HAS THOSE NUMBERS.

AND HE'S HERE TO PRESENT ALSO. THERE WAS 37 PEOPLE HOSPITALIZED RIGHT NOW THEY DID NOT TELL US IF THEY ARE AT CAPACITY.T'S MY UNDERSTANDING FLUCTUATE THAT

NUMBER BUT CURRENTLY IT'S 37 HOSPITALIZED. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, IF POSSIBLE, BUT THE NUMBER OF ICY BEDS ARE AT FLAGLER HOSPITAL.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY ARE CURRENTLY OCCUPIED AND HOW MANY ARE AVAILABLE.

NOT RIGHT NOW NECESSARILY, BUT PTHAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. FOR THIS COUNTY.

>> I WILL GET THAT NUMBER FOR YOU. >> DOCTOR ALAN COX, ARE YOU ON?

>> DR. ALANCOTT: I AM. CAN YOU HEAR ME? GOOD MORNING.

DIRECTOR HEALTH OFFICER MEDICAL DIRECTOR WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND ST.

JOHNS COUNTY GIVING A STATUS UPDATE REGARDING COVID-19. I WILL START THIS MORNING WITH THE MOST PERTINENT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE LOCAL COVID-19 DATA WE HAVE FROM THE STATE IN ORDER TO EDUCATE AND INFORM LOCAL DECISION-MAKING. ON JUNE 2, WE HAD 250 POSITIVE CASES. AT THE END OF JUNE, WE WERE JUST UNDER 1000 POSITIVE CASES.

AND AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE OVER 2500 POSITIVE CASES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

THAT MEANS WE HAVE HAD EXPONENTIAL GROWTH OF COVID-19 CASES IN OUR COUNTY.

WITH OUR CASES ESSENTIALLY 10 TIMES GREATER THAN THEY WERE AT THE BEGINNING OF JUNE.

AS OF YESTERDAY, ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS HAD A TOTAL OF 50 RESIDENTS DIED FROM COVID-19.

HOSPITALIZATIONS AND DEATHS FROM COVID-19 GENERALLY LACK AFTER THE IDENTIFICATION OF COVID-19 CASES. AS WE LOOK AT LAST FRIDAY, JULY 17, THERE WERE 23,000 ÃOVER 23,000 CHILDREN OVER THE AGE OF 18 WHO HAVE OR WHO HAVE HAD COVID-19 IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. IN THE LAST MONTH, TWO YOUNG CHILDREN AND TWO TEENAGERS HAVE PASSED AWAY IN OUR STATE. IN OUR COUNTY, WE HAVE HAD OVER 300 CHILDREN 18 YEARS OF AGE

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THIS IS INDICATIVE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMMUNITY SPREAD IN THE STATE.

IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS, OUR COUNTY HAS AN AVERAGE OVER 9.7 PERCENT POSITIVITY RATE FOR PEOPLE WHO TESTED POSITIVE FOR THE FIRST TIME.

THIS IS ALSO INDICATIVE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMMUNITY SPREAD. YESTERDAY, JULY 20, THE FLORIDA STATE SURGEON GENERAL ISSUED A STATEWIDE PUBLIC HEALTH ADVISORY WITH UPDATED MEASURES TO ENSURE PROTECTION FOR PUBLIC HEALTH IN RESPONSE TO COVID-19. IN THIS PUBLIC HEALTH ADVISORY THE DOCTOR STATED THAT AS OF JULY 16, FLORIDA IS SEEING INCREASES IN POSITIVE CASES, INCREASES IN THE RATE AND INCREASES AND HOSPITALIZATIONS FROM COVID-19.

ADDITIONALLY, IN THIS PUBLIC HEALTH ADVISORY HE STATES ALL INDIVIDUALS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM PARTICIPATION IN SOCIAL AND RECREATIONAL GATHERINGS AND MORE THAN 10 PEOPLE.

AND HE REITERATES THAT INDIVIDUALS OVER THE AGE OF 65 AND ALL INDIVIDUALS OF ANY AGE THAT HAVE HEALTH CONDITIONS SHALL LIMIT PERSONAL INTERACTIONS OUTSIDE THE HOME.

AS WE HAVE INCREASED OUR TESTING AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY, IF WE WERE HAVING LAST PRIDE OF DISEASE, WE WOULD HAVE EXPECTED OUR COVID-19 POSITIVITY RATE TO DECREASE, TO GO DOWN.

UNFORTUNATELY, JUNE 1, OUR RATES HAVE GONE FROM LESS THAN ONE PERCENT TO UPWARDS OF 15 PERCENT. UNTIL WE CAN SUSTAIN AN ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY TESTING AND MAINTAIN COVID-19 POSITIVITY RATE OF LESS THAN FIVE PERCENT, WE MUST CONSIDER THAT WE HAVE WIDESPREAD SUBSTANTIAL COMMUNITY SPREAD OF DISEASE IN OUR COUNTY.

DESPITE MORE THAN 140,000 U.S. DEATHS OVER THE SPAN OF ONLY A FEW MONTHS, CURRENT DATA SUGGEST THAT ABOUT 80 PERCENT OF PEOPLE INFECTED WITH COVID-19 DO NOT GET SEVERELY ILL. HOWEVER, AS WE MARK AGAIN ON SOME IMPORTANT RISK RELATED CONSIDERATIONS FOR PERSONS BEING EXPOSED AND THOSE AROUND THEM.

FIRST, LET'S CONSIDER THE DURATION OF IMMUNITY. SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT COVID-19 IMMUNITY REMAIN UNANSWERED. THIS IS STILL A NEW VIRUS TO US. THE BIGGEST QUESTION IS DOES BEING INFECTED WITH COVID-19 PROTECT AGAINST REINFECTION? AND IF SO, FOR HOW LONG. FURTHER, PROTECTION ONLY LASTING WEEKS OR MONTHS VERSUS YEARS IS AN IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE IN DETERMINING THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE PRESENCE OF ANTIBODIES FOR COVID-19. SECOND POINT, ONE CONSEQUENCES OF INFECTION. THE OUTSET OF THIS PANDEMIC, EXPERIENCE WITH HOSPITALIZATIONS SUGGESTED THAT CHILDREN WERE FOR THE MOST PART SPARED.

HE STARTED TO HEAR ABOUT A LIFE-THREATENING FORM OF MULTISYSTEM INFLAMMATORY SYNDROME IN CHILDREN. ASSOCIATED WITH COVID-19. GROWING EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THAT THE SYNDROME CAN OCCUR IN PREVIOUSLY SYMPTOMATIC CHILDREN AND IN CHILDREN PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT TO HAVE RECOVERED FROM COVID-19. LIKEWISE, THE LONG-TERM OR DELAYED EFFECT ON ADULTS WHO SURVIVE SEVERE INFECTIONS REMAINS UNCERTAIN, BUT PULMONARY, NEUROLOGIC AND CARDIOVASCULAR DAMAGE, INCLUDING STROKES HAVE BEEN REPORTED. THEREFORE, IT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO SAY THAT NOT DYING FROM COVID-19 AMOUNTS TO RECOVERY. FIRST POINT A SYMPTOMATIC TRANSMISSION. STUDIES HAVE SHOWN UP TO 40 PERCENT OF INFECTED INDIVIDUALS COULD BE ASYMPTOMATIC. AS PRESYMPTOMATIC AND A SYMPTOMATIC TRANSMISSION ARE

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SEVERITY OF SECONDARY PATIENTS. IT IS ALSO CLEAR THAT PEOPLE WITH MILD ILLNESS CAN TRANSMIT COVID-19 TO OTHERS WHO THEN BECOMES SEVERELY ILL AND IN SOME CASES DIED.

THIS IS A REMINDER THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST MAKING A CHOICE FOR THEMSELVES BUT ALSO FOR THOSE WHO THEY COME INTO CONTACT. THIS IS OF SPECIFIC CONCERNS WITH FAMILY MEMBERS WITH HIGH-RISK CONDITIONS. AND OUR LIMITED HEALTHCARE RESOURCES. THE REASON SOCIETY SHUTDOWN WAS TO FLATTEN THE CURVE.

THEREBY PROVIDING IMPORTANT TIME TO SHOW OUR RESOURCES. AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS VIRUS AND DEVELOP TREATMENT. WE HAVE BEGUN THIS PROCESS BUT MUCH REMAINS TO BE LEARNED.

AND PLEASE RECOGNIZE THAT TREATMENT FOR THOSE WHO BECOME SEVERELY ILL REMAINS EXPERIMENTAL AT BEST AND AVAILABLE RESOURCES MAY BE LIMITED IN THE COMMUNITY.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT TESTING. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT INCREASES LAB TESTING IS THE COST OF INCREASING POSITIVE CASES. THIS IS NOT A FACTOR JUST FOR TESTING BUTTESTING EXPANDING TO THE ASYMPTOMATIC ONE WOULD HAVE EXPECTED THE POSITIVITY RATE TO GO DOWN BUT THAT'S NOT THE SITUATION. OUR POSITIVITY RATES HAVE GONE UP. THE RISE IN THE NUMBER OF CASES REFLECTS RAPID COMMUNITY SPREAD OF COVID-19 IN THE U.S. COMMUNITY SPREAD MEANS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN INFECTED WITH THE VIRUS IN THE AREA INCLUDING SOME WHO WERE NOT SURE HOW AND WHERE THEY BECAME INFECTED.

ADDITIONALLY, I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT CLEARLY, WE ARE NOT DOING ENOUGH TESTING.

IF WE WERE DOING ENOUGH TESTING, THE CASE NUMBERS SHOULD GO DOWN.

WHEN YOU FIND CASES, YOU ISOLATE THE CASES AND YOU FIND THE CONTACT INTO THE PROCESS OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND THE NUMBERS GO DOWN. THIS IS NOT THE CASE.

WE NEED TO KEEP WORKING TO OPTIMIZE OUR MITIGATION EFFORTS, FACEMASKS, SOCIAL DISTANCING, HAND HYGIENE ETC. AND BEING ABLE TO CONTACT TRACE ISOLATE CASES IN CLOSE CONTACT TO STOP THE SPREAD OF THIS DISEASE. OUR PUBLIC HEALTH FOCUS IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY CONTINUES TO FOCUS ON EARLY CASE IDENTIFICATION, ISOLATION, AND CONTACT TRACING, AS WE KNOW THIS WILL CURB THE SPREAD OF THE DISEASE AND OUR COMMUNITY.

IT IS OUR EXPECTATION WHERE WE HAVE DEDICATED OUR RESOURCES. AS WE LOOK AT THE LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH CONTINUES WITH OUR FOCUS ON THESE FACILITIES.

ALONG WITH AGENCY FOR HEALTHCARE ADMINISTRATION AND WE WORK DAILY TO AVOID OUTBREAKS AT THESE FACILITIES. WE KNOW THAT EARLY EDUCATION, INFECTION CONTROL AND IDENTIFICATION OF POSITIVE CASES AND LEASE FACILITIES ALLOW US TO IMPLEMENT IMMEDIATE ACTION TO AVOID LOSS OF LIFE. IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASING ACTIVITY IN CASES ASSOCIATED WITH OUR FACILITY. THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER REQUIRING THE TESTING OF ALL LONG-TERM CARE FACILITY STAFF EVERY TWO WEEKS SHOULD HELP RESTORE RAPID IDENTIFICATION, ISOLATION AND CONTACT TRACING OF CASES AND WILL ASSIST IN KEEPING OUR SENIORS SAFE. WE LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT FACEMASKS.

AT THE END OF MAY ON MAY 21, AND AGAIN AT THE END OF JUNE I DISCUSSED FACEMASKS AND DETAILS. FACEMASKS HELP PREVENT THE SPREAD OF COVID-19.

FACEMASKS COMBINED WITH OTHER PREVENTATIVE MEASURES, FOR EXAMPLE, FREQUENT HANDWASHING AND SOCIAL DISTANCING CAN HELP SLOW THE SPREAD OF DISEASE. IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT BOTH SYMPTOMATIC AND ASYMPTOMATIC INDIVIDUALS CAN SPREAD THE VIRUS UNWITTINGLY, THUS, THE CDC UPDATED ITS GUIDANCE TO RECOMMEND USE OF FACE COVERINGS TO HELP PREVENT THE SPREAD OF COVID-19 BY INDIVIDUALS WHO MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE VIRUS.

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THE NAME INDICATES THAT THE MASK IS DESIGNED TO BLOCK 95 PERCENT OF THE VERY SMALL PARTICLES IF THE PERSON WHO IS WEARING A MASK WAS APPROPRIATELY FANTASTIC.

LIKE SURGICAL MASKS AND 95'S ARE INTENDED TO BE DISPOSABLE, HOWEVER, RESEARCHERS HAVE BEEN WORKING AT VARIOUS WAYS TO DECAMP TO DECONTAMINATE THEM SO THEY CAN BE REUSED.

AND N95 MASKS PROTECTS NOT JUST THE PERSON HE WAS WEARING THE MASK BUT THE ONES WHO ARE NOT WEARING A MASK. LET'S LOOK AT CLOTH FACEMASKS. THESE ARE READILY AVAILABLE AND SHOULD BE WORN IN PUBLIC SETTINGS WHERE SOCIAL DISTANCING MEASURES ARE DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN. FOR EXAMPLE, GROCERY STORES, CARE ESTABLISHMENTS, HAIR SALONS. HOWEVER, CLOTH FACE COVERINGS DO NOT REPLACE OTHER PROTECTIVE MEASURES. THE CDC AND THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH STILL RECOMMEND THAT YOU REMAIN AT LEAST SIX FEET AWAY FROM OTHER PEOPLE ALSO KNOWN AS SOCIAL DISTANCING. WASH YOUR HANDS FREQUENTLY, AVOID TOUCHING YOUR EYES, NOSE, AND MOUTH, AND STAY HOME IF YOU ARE SICK. CLOTH FACE COVERINGS SHOULD NOT BE PLACED ON CHILDREN UNDER TO AND OR IF NECESSARY FOLLOW THE GUIDANCE OF YOUR HEALTHCARE PROVIDER. ALTHOUGH CLOTH MASKS, SURGICAL MASKS AND N95 MASKS SERVE DIFFERENT PURPOSES, ALL ARE INTENDED TO SLOW THE SPREAD OF COVID-19.

A CLOTH MASK OR A SURGICAL MASK IS WORN TO HELP PROTECT OTHERS IN CASE THE WEARER HAS THE VIRUS. AND N95 MASKS HELPS PROTECT THE WEARER FROM GETTING THE VIRUS FROM OTHERS BUT IT PROTECTS THE WEARER AND PROTECT OTHERS. NOW, WITH OUR RECORD-BREAKING SPREAD IN COVID-19 CASES, THERE ARE MORE AND MORE REASONS TO WEAR MASKS OR CLOTH FACE COVERINGS. THERE IS A GROWING BODY OF RESEARCH THAT SHOWS WEARING FACE COVERINGS IN PUBLIC CAN LIMIT THE SPREAD OF THIS HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS DISEASE, WHICH HAS AFFECTED ALMOST 3.7 MILLION PEOPLE AND KILLED OVER 140,000 IN THE UNITED STATES.

IN FACT, IN A ARTICLE PUBLISHED THIS MONTH, THE CDC REVIEWED THE LATEST SCIENCE AND CONFIRMED CLOTH FACE COVERINGS ARE A CRITICAL TOOL IN THE FIGHT AGAINST COVID-19.

THAT COULD REDUCE THE SPREAD OF THE DISEASE PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU UNIVERSALLY WITHIN COMMUNITIES. THERE IS INCREASING EVIDENCE THAT CLOTH FACE COVERINGS HELP PREVENT PEOPLE WHO HAVE COVID-19 FROM SPREADING THE VIRUS TO OTHERS.

WE ARE NOT DEFENSELESS AGAINST COVID-19 SAID DOCTOR ROBERT REDFIELD.

CLOTH FACE COVERINGS ARE ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL WEAPONS WE HAVE TO SLOW AND STOP THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS, PARTICULARLY WHEN USED UNIVERSALLY WITHIN A COMMUNITY SETTING. ALL AMERICANS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THEMSELVES, THEIR FAMILIES, AND THEIR COMMUNITIES. ULTIMATELY, MY CLOTH COVERING PROTECTS YOU AND YOURS PROTECTS ME. IN SUMMARY, WEARING MASKS, PRACTICING SOCIAL DISTANCING, GOOD HAND HYGIENE, QUARANTINING WHEN L CAN DECREASE THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS AND ALLOW COMMUNITIES TO OPEN, ENSURING THAT, ONE, OUR HEALTHCARE RESOURCES ARE NOT OVERWHELMED AND OUR PUBLIC WORKFORCE AND INFRASTRUCTURE ARE STRENGTHENED AND REBUILT. THREE, SCIENTISTS TREATMENT AND VACCINE AND FOR OUR FAMILIES AND OUR CHILDREN AND FRIENDS DO NOT PAY THE PRICE. PREPARING OUR ECONOMY AND SAVING LIVES IS NOT A MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE CHOICE. THANK YOU.

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>> ANY QUESTIONS WERE THE DOCTOR? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

ARE THE NUMBERS BEING COLLECTED THAT SHOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE TESTED ARE BEING DUPLICATED OR REPEATED? AND WHAT I MEAN IS SOME ARE OBVIOUSLY TESTED AND TESTED POSITIVE AND THEY ARE RETESTED AND RETESTED AND COME BACK POSITIVE.

ARE THOSE NUMBERS BEING SEPARATED AND AT LEAST UNDERSTOOD?

>> YES. THEY ARE COLLECTED. WE HAVE THOSE WHO TEST POSITIVE THE FIRST TIME AND THAT'S THE PINFORMATION I GAVE YOU TODAY THAT WE HAVE OTHER DATA THAT SHOWS THOSE BEING RETESTED. THAT INFORMATION IS BEING GATHERED.

>> THANK YOU DOCTOR FOR THE INFORMATION. THAT IS HELPFUL.

IF I HEARD YOU RIGHT HE SAID THE VIRUS IS SPREAD THROUGH LARGE AND SMALL DROPLETS.

THERE'S BEEN SOME THOUGHT THAT IT COULD ALSO BE AIRBORNE NOT JUST DEPENDING ON WATER OR SALIVA DROPLETS. WHERE'S THE STUDY PROGRESS AND DETERMINING WHETHER IT'S PURELY

THROUGH WATER DROPLETS OR AIRBORNE AS WELL? >> I THINK WE ARE FINDING MORE AND MORE EVIDENCE THAT IT IS AIRBORNE AND THAT WILL PROBABLY EXPLAIN SOME OF THE REASONS WHY WE ARE SEEING THE SPREAD AND THE MANNER IN WHICH IT IS. WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S ASYMPTOMATIC AND PRESYMPTOMATIC PEOPLE. THE ONES WHO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THERE IS AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION. THERE WAS A STUDY THAT THOSE WHO WERE NEAR AIR VENTS DID CONTRACT THE DISEASE WHILE ON THE OTHER SIDE AND RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ANOTHER TABLE BUT DID NOT. WE ARE GETTING FURTHER FURTHER EVIDENCE IN VARIOUS SETTINGS THAT IS DEMONSTRATING ÃTHE EVIDENCE IS DEMONSTRATING IT PROBABLY IS AIRBORNE TRANSMISION, HOWEVER, IT'S STILL SO NEW THAT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH AND WE NEED TO HAVE THESE STUDIES AND ETC. IN ORDER TO COME FORWARD. THERE IS MORE EVIDENCE THAT AS IT EVOLVES THERE PROBABLY IS AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR CONCERNS.

>> IT TYPICALLY TAKES WEEKS IF NOT MONTHS TO IDENTIFY TRANSMISSION SUCH AS AIRBORNE FOR ANY VIRUS, NOT JUST THIS ONE. WE ARE WEEKS IF NOT A FEW MONTHS INTO THE ANALYSIS THAT. YOU HAVE A FEEL FOR HOW MUCH LONGER IT WILL TAKE FOR THAT

STUDY TO BE CONCLUSIVE? >> NO. I THINK THAT GOOD WORK IS BEING DONE, BUT AGAIN, OUR DATA IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE DATA PUT INTO THAT AND THEN THE INFORMATION REQUIRES TIME AND WORK IN MORE OF AN EVOLVING PROCESS.

>> THANK YOU. >> THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION, AND AT THIS POINT I HAVE TO ASK A PROCEDURAL QUESTION. I WAS UNAWARE WE WERE GOING TO GET THIS PRESENTATION NOW. I WAS PREPARED WHEN WE GO OVER THE CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU IF WE COULD TRANSFER ITEM 2 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TO THE REGULAR GENDER WHICH IS THE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, I WAS PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. I CAN MAKE THAT MOTION NOW. IT'S DIRECTLY GERMANE TO THIS

DISCUSSION >> LET'S WAIT AND TAKE THAT PROCEDURALLY AND YOU CAN MOVE

THAT TO THE CONSENT >> I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID DO THIS NOW. THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER

QUESTIONS. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I DID.

>> GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT BRIEF. I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU SPECIFICALLY, WHAT ARE YOUR SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS YOU WOULD ADVISE US AS A BOARD TO TAKE AT THIS TIME? EVEN MENTIONED INCREASED TESTING BUT WHAT ARE YUR RECOMMENDATIONS AS OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON THIS MATTER, WHAT ARE YOUR SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS YOU WOULD ADVISE US AS A BOARD TO TAKE THAT WE HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE?

>> IT WOULD BE REMISS OF ME IF I DID NOT RECOMMEND THE USE OF MASKS.

SOCIAL DISTANCING, STAYING HOME IF URL. WE UNDERSTAND VERY CLEARLY.

OUR STATE SURGEON GENERAL ISSUED AN ADVISORY THAT POINTS OUT THAT AS OF JULY 16, FLORIDA

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HE SAYS IN THE ADVISORY THAT HE IS ADVISING EVERYONE TO AVOID CLOSED SPACES, AVOID CROWDED PLACES, AVOID CLOSE CONTACT AND TO WEAR A MASK. IF YOU ARE ASKING ME AS A PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIAL IN REGARDS TO A RECOMMENDATION, I WOULD SUPPORT A MASK AND OUR

STATE SURGEON GENERAL DID SUPPORT WEARING A MASK. >> I AM GOING TO PIN YOU DOWN HERE BECAUSE I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT WHAT I ASKED WAS DO YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION FOR US AS A BOARD TO MAKE IN REGARDS ÃHE MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY INCREASING TESTING. SO WHAT ARE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AS OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT, WHAT ARE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AS A BOARD WHETHER TO TAKE ACTION OR NOT TAKE ACTION. DO YOU HAVE ANY ACTION ITEMS YOU'RE RECOMMENDING TO THE

BOARD? >> I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE MY ROLE IS NOT TO SET POLICY. MY ROLE IS TO EDUCATE AND AFFORD AND FORM AND I BELIEVE IN SHARING THE PUBLIC HEALTH MESSAGE AND I'VE DONE THAT. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT I

UNDERSTAND. >> HOLD ON.'M NOT ASKING YOU TO SET POLICY.

I AM ASKING YOU IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION OR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR US AS THE

BOARD TO TAKE >> AND, COMMISSIONER I BELIEVE I RESPONDED THAT FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH STANDPOINT I RECOMMEND WEARING FACEMASKS. I RECOMMEND SOCIAL DISTANCING AND I RECOMMEND UNDERSTANDING. LEARLY THAT HAND HYGIENE IS SIGNIFICANT IN ASSISTING US AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND I ALSO RECOMMEND THE FACT THAT AS THE STATE SURGEON GENERAL SAID LAST NIGHT HE WOULD LIKE US TO HAVE SOCIAL GATHERINGS OF LESS THAN 10.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TESTING, WE SHOULD BE DOING MORE TESTING. BUT THOSE ARE MY

RECOMMENDATIONS. >> HAVE WE'VE BEEN ÃI BELIEVE WE AS A BOARD HAVE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED EVERYONE TO WEAR FACEMASKS. I BELIEVE WE HAVE DONE THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? CAN I HAVE SOMEONE ON STAFF ANSWER THAT QUESTION?

>> YES SIR >> HELPED ME WITH MY MEMORY HERE.

HAVE WE NOT STRONGLY RECOMMENDED FOR PEOPLE TO WEAR FACEMASKS?

>> YES, SIR. >> CAN WE INCREASE OUR TESTING FACILITIES AND CAPACITY?

>> WE ARE PROVIDING FREE TESTING NOW AT FLAGLER HOSPITAL.

>> IS THE COUNTY PROVIDING DISINFECTANT AND SANITIZING HANDWASHING TO PEOPLE IN THE

COMMUNITY? >> TWO BUSINESSES SPECIFICALLY, YES.

>> SO, DOCTOR, IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE RECOMMENDED AS A PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIAL WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO IMPLEMENT. IS THERE ANYTHING FURTHER THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND?

NOT POLICY, AS FAR AS A RECOMMENDATION >> NO, SIR.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. IT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> ANY OTHER UPDATES? MR. BRADLEY? >> JOE GIAMMANCO IS HERE TO

PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. >> PLEASE.

JOE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, COME ON. >> GOOD MORNING.

JUST IN KEEPING WITH THE BRIEF ON EMERGENCY OPERATIONS, WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE COVID-19. THE EEOC HAS APPLIED OVER 313,000 ITEMS WHICH INCLUDES GLOVES, GOWNS, MASKS, FACE SHIELDS HAND SANITIZER AND WATER TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS COUNTY STAFF. WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH FIRE RESCUE AND FLAGLER TO CONTINUE DOING TESTING AND WITH A SITE AT FLAGLER HOSPITAL AS A FREE SITE AND AS OF YESTERDAY WE ATTESTED OVER 2069 PEOPLE. THE TEST SITE IS OPEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 7:00 UNTIL 11:00 A.M.. THE EEOC HAS STOOD UP THE CITIZEN INFORMATION CENTER WHICH IS FOR GENERAL QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH FIRE AND RESCUE WE ARE MAKING ALL OF THE NOTIFICATIONS OF THE TESTING SO POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE TEST RESULTS ARE COMING FROM THE EEOC. IN ADDITION TO THE COVID RESPONSE, WE ARE WORKING OUR HURRICANE PLANS FOR THE SEASON AND WE ARE LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING COVID CBC

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IF ANY RESIDENT HAS QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY TO MEDICAL ISSUES, PLEASE CONTACT THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND THAT NUMBER IS 904, 209, 3250. THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH NUMBER IS 904-209-3250. IF FOR ANY GENERAL INFORMATION QUESTIONS, LIKE I SAID, THE CITIZEN INFORMATION LINE IS OPEN, AND THAT NUMBER IS 904-824-5550.

AGAIN, AT 904-824-5550. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GIAMMANCO? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT

REPORT >> MR. CHAIRMAN THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

I DO HAVE FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS, IF I CAN. >> THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

SIR, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN AND THANKS FOR THE WORK YOU ARE DOING.

BASED ON DOCTOR ALCOTT'S RECOMMENDATION, WHAT CAN WE DO TO INCREASE OUR TESTING? WHAT CAN WE DO TO ENCOURAGE FACEMASKS, WHAT CAN WE DO TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THIS? WHAT ARE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT YOU HAVE, WHAT YOU CAN ADVISE US ON WE CAN CONTINUE TO INCREASE OUR CAPABILITIES FOR TESTING, ENCOURAGING FACEMASKS, WHAT YOU HAVE FORCED

>> SO FOR TESTING, WE OPENED THE FREE TESTING SITE WE ARE DOING MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

ORIGINAL TESTING WAS ABOUT THOUSAND AND I THINK WE ARE LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND PER WEEK RIGHT NOW SO WE ARE KEEPING UP WITH THE DEMAND THAT WE SEE AND WE ARE ALSO RESPONDING TO THE RESULTS QUICKER THAN I GUESS THE 7 TO 10 DAYS WE ARE ACTUALLY SEEING RESULTS COMING IN WITHIN ABOUT 3 TO 5 DAYS, SO WE ARE MAKING THOSE NOTIFICATIONS PRETTY QUICKLY.

THE FACEMASKS ÃLOOKING FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY, WE HAVE CURRENTLY AROUND 250,000 MASKS ON HAND AND TO MAKE THAT EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC TO ACCESS AS, MR. BRADLEY SAID, THE BUSINESSES ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT. IT'S ONE OF THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE INITIATED AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE STARTED RECENTLY AND WILL BE STARTING IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, WE NORMALLY HAD A ONE DAY A WEEK WHERE BUSINESSES WOULD COME INTO OUR FACILITY AND WE WOULD HAND OUT MASKS AND WE ARE CHANGING THE WAY WE ARE GOING TO BE ISSUING THEM AND BASICALLY THE BUSINESS WILL REGISTER AND ONCE THEY REGISTER ME MAIL IT OUT TO THEM QUICKER AND MORE EFFICIENT SO THEY WILL GET THEM FASTER THAN HAVING TO WAIT ONCE A WEEK.

WE ARE TRYING TO DO ANYTHING WE CAN TO GET THE RESOURCES INTO HANDS THAT UNIT.

THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE DOING. >> AT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS I THINK YOU TRY TO DO THIS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS MORE SPECIFIC ÃIF THERE WAS SPECIFIC THINGS WE AS A BOARD CAN DO TO HELP FACILITATE THIS. I WANT TO HEAR THAT.

I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO HEAR THAT. AS FAR AS MASKS, CAN YOU KIND OF ARTICULATE FOR US ÃTHIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR OTHER STAFF ÃHOW MANY BUSINESSES ARE

TAKING PART IN THIS? >> YES. SO WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 150 BUSINESSES UTILIZE THE PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY FOR THE BACK TO BUSINESS WHERE WE ISSUED 100 MASKS FO BUSINESS. WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF REPEAT CUSTOMERS AND HAVE NOT TURNED ANYBODY AWAY. IN ADDITION TO NOT JUST ACTIVE BUSINESS, WE ARE ALSO PROVIDING PPE EQUIPMENT TO ANY AND ALL OF THE LOCAL HEALTH FACILITIES. SO NURSING HOMES, GROUP HOMES, THINGS LIKE THAT.E ARE PROVIDING THIS TYPE OF PPE REQUIREMENTS OF THEM IF THEY NEED THEM AND WE HAVE NOT TURNED ANYBODY AWAY AND AS I SAID, SUPPLY CHAINS SEEM TO BE OPEN AND RUNNING. SO WE HAVE A GOOD TURNAROUND ON SUPPLIES BUT WE DO HAVE A STOCKPILE ON HAND WE CAN COVER WHAT WE NEED TO COVER RIGHT NOW GOING INTO THE HURRICANE

SEASON. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THE NUMBER I GOT WAS A LITTLE HIGHER. WOULD LIKE FOR YOU WHEN YOU BRIEF US IF YOU CAN GIVE US SPECIFIC NUMBERS, HOW MANY NURSING HOMES WE ARE PROVIDING US TO, HOW MANY BUSINESSES HAVE TAKEN PART IN THIS. YOU HAVE MAJOR CHAINS LIKE PUBLIX AND WINN-DIXIE BUT I'M LOOKING FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE TAKING PART IN THIS. IT'S A VERY SOLID SPECIFIC

NUMBER. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE >> I CAN GET THOSE SPECIFIC NUMBERS. WE DO HAVE THEM. I WAS JUST GIVING YOU

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IS THERE ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS YOU WOULD RECOMMEND FOR

>> I DO NOT, SIR. >> THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I DO HAVE SOME INITIAL QUESTIONS FOR COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUT I WILL LOOK

TO YOU PROCEDURALLY WHEN I CAN ASK) >> I THINK WE HAVE MORE

QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER JOHNS? >> I'M SURE THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE STRONG ENCOURAGEMENT TO KEEP THE STOP IN MIND MAY NEED TO SHOW BY LEADERSHIP OUR AVAILABILITY TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY'S NEEDS FOR PPE.

WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IN THE WAY OF ALL PPE TESTING AND ETC. WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO MEET

THE DEMAND IS CURRENTLY BEING SEEN AND EXPERIENCED >> AT THE CURRENT RATE AT WHAT WE ARE SEEING. WE HAVEA STOCKPILE FOR A SHORT TERM, BUT IF WE TURN INTO A EVERYBODY COMES TO THE EEOC TOMORROW, A DIFFERENT STORY. WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK TO GET MORE OF EVERYTHING. CURRENTLY, WE ARE STAFFING PRETTY GOOD.

>> YOU ARE MEETING THE NEEDS AS THEY ARE TODAY AND WANT TO CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO FOLLOW THE CDC GUIDELINES AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE CAPABLE OF MEETING THOSE NEEDS AS THEY ARE PROVIDED TO THE COMMUNITY TO THE COUNTY IS WHAT I'M HEARING. WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO FOLLOW CDC GUIDELINES. WE ARE NOT ASKING THEM TO COME TO US WITH THE EQUIPMENT. THEY CAN GET IT ANY MORE RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE BUT I DO WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE AVAILABLE FREE OF CHARGE FOR BUSINESSES FROM THE

COUNTY >> YES, SIR. THEY ARE, AND WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE AND EASIER TO GET. I JUST GOT HANDED A NOTE REALLY MORE FOR COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, THERE'S 252 BUSINESSES THAT HAVE TAKEN THE PLEDGE BUT WE ARE JUST OVER 150 BUSINESSES THAT ACTUALLY UTILIZE THE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW.

I WILL HAVE ÃYOU ARE RIGHT. WE ARE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT WE HAVE OFFERED AND WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT EASIER AND ALSO FOLLOW THE CDC GUIDELINES.

BY NOT HAVING AN IMPRISONED HANDOUT FACILITY AND VIA MAIL GETTING IT QUICKER AND LESS

EXPOSURE IS THINGS WE ARE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT >> THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. I HOPE PEOPLE WILL CALL. OBVIOUSLY THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE SITTING NEXT TO EACH OTHER ARE WEARING MASKS AND SIX FEET AWAY FROM EACH OTHER.

THERE'S NO WAY TO MONITOR HANDWASHING. IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE DOING FOR GENERATIONS TO KEEP OURSELVES CLEAN AND PROTECTED AND OUR FAMILY AND COWORKERS AND NEIGHBORS. SO THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS BROUGHT TO THE MEETINGS BECAUSE IT HELPS PEOPLE REMEMBER WE ARE NOT JUST DOING IT. WE ARE ENCOURAGING EVERYONE

ELSE TO DO IT FOR ALL OF OUR SAKE. >> YES, SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER YOU HAVE SOMETHING FOR ADMINISTRATION?

>> I DO, SIR, THANK YOU. I BELIEVE WE HAVE MR. BRADLEY AND MRS. ANDREWS HERE TODAY.

CAN WE GET AN UPDATE ON WHAT MEASURES THE ADMINISTRATION IS PUTTING IN PLACE AS FAR AS PROTECTING THE PUBLIC AT OUR FACILITIES AND OUR EMPLOYEES? CAN YOU OUTLINE UP FOR US AS A

BOARD? >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, THROUGH THE CHAIR, I JUST SPOKE WITH SARAH TAYLOR, OUR DIRECTOR OF HR INTERIM DIRECTOR. SHE HAD PROVIDED AN UPDATE WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING AS THE MEASURES OF PREVENTATIVE FOR OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

SO THAT INCLUDES TRACKING EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN EXPOSED AND CONTACT TRACING OF EXPOSURE AND FOLLOWING CDC GUIDELINES AND DOH GUIDELINES REGARDING ISOLATION AND SELF QUARANTINE.

TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TRYING - EMPLOYEES WORKING AT THE OFFICE SO ALLOWING MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES TO WORK FROM HOME AND IMPLEMENTING SOCIAL DISTANCING AND OFFICE 10 DISTANCING IN TERMS OF OPERATIONAL GATHERING OR CONFERENCING. AND UTILIZING TELECONFERENCING AS MUCH AS WE CAN. EMPLOYEES ARE DOING THEIR SELF SCREENING EVERY DAY BEFORE THEY COME TO WORK IF THEY ARE ALLOWED TO COME BACK TO WORK IN THE OFFICE.

MAKE SURE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SYMPTOM RELATED TO COVID-19, AND IF THEY DO, THEY WOULD BE ASKED TO STAY HOME OR STAY AWAY AND SEEK MEDICAL ASSISTANCE. AND IN TERMS OF MASKS, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ENCOURAGING STAFF TO FOLLOW CDC AND DOH GUIDELINES.

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THOSE ARE THE MEASURES WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

>> THANK YOU. HOW ABOUT PERIODIC TEMPERATURE CHECKS?

ARE WE DOING THAT? >> NO, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN

LOOK INTO HIM? >> YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK YOU ARE DOING. THIS IS A CHALLENGE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO US AS A BOARD. WE WANT TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION TO MAKE SURE WE ARE BEING PROACTIVE SO I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS. THESE QUESTIONS ARE DESIGNED MORE TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND AND THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING ON AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO ANSWER IT. I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO ASK QUESTIONS TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE PUTTING ALL OF THE MEASURES IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC.

WE HAVE SECURITY GUARDS WERE RECHECK PEOPLE AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT CARRYING WEAPONS SO I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THESE OTHER OPTIONS LIKE PERIODIC TEMPERATURE CHECKS.

I'M GOING FOR MY EXPERIENCE BEING IMMOBILIZED AND SEAMLESS ON THE FRONT LINES IN OUR PRACTICE THINGS WE CAN DO AND I APPRECIATE THE MEASURES YOU HAVE PUT IN PLACE AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO CHALLENGE YOURSELF TO FIND ADDITIONAL MEASURES. YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN

>> THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? WE WILL MOVE ALONG WITH PUBLIC

[Public Comment]

>> AS WE OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS WILL HAVE THEIR OWN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. ANY PERSON WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD SHOULD COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS. EACH PERSON WILL BE PROVIDED FREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND SHALL COMPLY WITH THE BOARD PUBLIC RULES OF DECORUM.

THE FIRST, SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER AND MUST NOT DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE. NO PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH PERSONAL, AND PERTINENT FOR SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR WITH BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR.

MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ANY DISRUPTIVE DEMONSTRATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS. I WOULD ASK THAT ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS ANY OVERHEAD MATERIAL PLEASE PRESENT THAT MATERIAL TO THE STAFF OF THE CLERK OF COURT TO BE ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD, AND I THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN THE PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE CALLING AND.

AND AFTER THAT WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE HERE AT THE COMMISSION MEETING. SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE IF NOT SEVERAL CALLS.

IF WE CAN HAVE THE FIRST CALLER, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU.

MR. CHAIR, FROM THE DISCUSSION OF THE BOARD THIS MORNING, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CONSENT ITEM NUMBER TWO WHICH GOES TO THE CONSIDERATION OF EXTENDING THE LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY WILL BE PULLED OFF THE CONSENT AND PLACED ONTO THE ORIGINAL AGENDA.

IT MAY BE THERE THAT AS COMMISSIONER DEAN HAS DESCRIBED, THAT THE TOPIC OF FACEMASKS ALSO MAY BE DISCUSSED. SO THE BOARD MAY WANT TO CONSIDER HAVING PUBLIC COMMENT PERTAINING TO THE SEVEN DAY EXTENSION AND THE FACEMASK COVID RELATED ISSUES FOR THAT REGULAR ITEM AND NUTS AT THE PREROGATIVE OF THE BOARD

>> IT'S THE PREROGATIVE OF THE CHAIRMAN, BUT MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT ANY COLORS YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS COVID-19 OR FACEMASKS BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK NOW UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE REASON SEVERAL HAVE BEEN ON THE PHONE HOLDING FOR A FULL HOUR AND IF WE PUT THAT AT THE END OF THE MEETING THEY MAY BE HOLDING FOR TWO OR THREE OR FOUR HOURS.

I THINK AS A GESTURE TO THE PUBLIC WE SHOULD TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ANY COMMENTS REGARDING COVID-19 AND OR FACIAL COVERINGS AND THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION

>> IT HAS NOT BEEN FORMALLY POOLED SO PLEASE PROCEED. >> FIRST CALLER?

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>> WENDY: CF >> GOOD MORNING, WENDY. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES

>> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. DEAN FOR BRINGING UP THE MASK MANDATE AND BRINGING UP VOTES AND BRINGING UP MOTIONS ABOUT MASKS OVER AND OVER. SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO TELL THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, PARTICULARLY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER THAT HE HIMSELF GOING OVER EVERYTHING BUT MAKING THE LAW OF A MASK MANDATE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

TRYING TO FIND OUT EXACTLY FROM DOH WHAT YOU ARE DOING OR NOT DOING AND COVERING YOURSELF IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. PEOPLE ARE DYING IN THE HOSPITAL.

YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONER WAS IN THE HOSPITAL AND MIGHT STILL BE.

EITHER THAT OR HE IS RECOVERING. IT'S NOT ALLOWED.

IT'S NOT OKAY.E ARE OPENING SCHOOLS. PEOPLE ARE STILL SHOWING UP AT BUSINESSES WHERE THEY HAVE A MASK MANDATE AND ARE NOT WEARING A MASK.

TEND TO 20 PEOPLE IN STORES. THEY SIMPLY DO NOT CARE.WE NEED A MASK MANDATE SO THAT THIS STOPS AND WE CAN SLOW DOWN THE COMMUNITY SPREAD AND MITIGATE THE COMMUNITY SPREAD.

RIGHT NOW, FLORIDA'S COMMUNITY SPREAD IS EXTREMELY HIGH. WE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE OPENING NEVERMIND OPENING SCHOOLS. RESTAURANTS SHOULD BE CLOSED. ONLY TAKE OUT NO GEMS MET Ã GEMS. WE ARE ALL SICK AND DYING AND WE CAN'T GO OUT AND YOU ARE OKAY WITH THAT. THE COMMISSIONERS ARE OKAY WITH THAT, WITH NOT PROTECTING THEIR CONSTITUENTS, MR. JOHN'S. BUT JUST REMEMBER WHAT IS GOING ON AND UNDERSTAND WHEN IT COMES TIME TO GO TO THE VOTING BOOTH LIKE WE WILL FOR MR. JOHN'S SOON AGAINST HIS OPPONENT IN THE PRIMARY THAT HE HAS AGAINST A MASK MANDATE. AND THAT IS NOT OKAY.

IT'S NOT OKAY TO PUT THE COMMUNITY'S HEALTH AT RISK. IT'S NOT OKAY TO OPEN SCHOOLS WITH A COMMUNITY FULL OF COVID AND PEOPLE IN THE HOSPITAL IN ICU IS BECAUSE OF COEVID.

IT'S NOT OKAY TO LET BUSINESSES DECIDE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO ABOUT MASKS BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN TO TRY TO GET BY FINANCIALLY DURING THESE TIMES.

MASKS SHOULD BE MANDATED. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH HAS TOLD YOU THAT.

NUMEROUS PHYSICIANS HAVE TOLD YOU THAT. THE COMMISSIONERS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MR. DEAN JUST DO NOT CARE. THEY HAVE POLITICAL REASONS WHY THEY ARE DOING THIS AND IT'S UNFAIR, AND COVERING YOURSELF ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING BUT MAKING A MANDATE IS NOT OKAY. IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO OUR TEACHERS GOING BACK TO SCHOOL WHERE THERE IS EXTREME HIGH RATES OF COVID IN THE COMMUNITIES AND HOSPITALS FILLED AND STUDENTS WHO MAY BE ASYMPTOMATIC GETTING TEACHERS SICK BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CONTROL

THE COMMUNITY SPREAD. >> THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES YOUR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN. THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> NEXT CALLER. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE

>> GOOD MORNING. TOM REYNOLDS. 50, BRIGANTINE CT., ST.

AUGUSTINE BEACH, FLORIDA. THAT LADY WAS WAY OUT OF LINE. JIMMY JOHN'S ALWAYS PUTS HIS CONSTITUENTS AND THE RESIDENTS FIRST. JIMMY JOHN'S HAS BEEN NOMINATED FIVE YEARS IN A ROW AS THE BEST COUNTY COMMISSIONER. WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE CALL IN AND TRY TO KICK HIM OUT I THINK THERE WE GO AGAIN. SOME PEOPLE WANT TO COME IN AND GET POLITICAL AND BRING IN THEIR POLITICAL STANCE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. JIMMY JOHN'S IS ACTUALLY COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND EVERYBODY I RUN INTO IS SUPPORTING JIMMY JOHN'S AND JIMMY JOHN'S DOESN'T WANT TO BE KNOCKING ON PEOPLES DOORS TO SEE IF HE HAS MASKS ON. HE KNOWS THE PEOPLE ARE SMART ENOUGH TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS. NUMBER TWO, ABSOLUTELY WE NEED TO PUT A WARNING OUT, YOUNG PEPASSING THE CIGARETTES. I'VE WITNESSED IT MYSELF.

THEY PASS AROUND THOSE THINGS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL FLAVORED IT'S THE GOOFIEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED. NUMBER THREE TODAY, THE SAFETY CLASSES ARE A MUST.

I AM REALLY, REALLY SUBJECT TO GETTING THE COEVID. I HAVE UNDERLYING CONDITIONS.

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I REALLY PAY ATTENTION AND I TRY TO NOT GO OUT MUCH. I DON'T NEED A COUNTY COMMISSIONER TELLING ME TO DO THAT. AND I'M GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN.

I AM ONE OF MANY PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR US. WE DON'T NEED YOU TO MANDATE ANYTHING AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO MANDATE EVERYTHING WHY DON'T YOU JUST REMOVE ALL MILK OFF THE SHELVES TALK ÃSTOP THE SALE OF CIGARETTES AND ALCOHOL. THAT'S THE KIND OF PEOPLE CALLING IN. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PROBABLY NOT EVEN A CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN TO BEGIN WITH AND THEY WANT TO CALL IN AND NOT SOMEBODY ELSE.

IT INFURIATES ME EVERY TIME ANYBODY TRIES TO MANDATE WHAT IS BEST FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.

COMMISSIONERS, WE KNOW THE STATE REGULATES RESTAURANTS AND NOT ABOUT AS FAR AS IT SHOULD GO. WE NEED TO REGULATE BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF BAD RESTAURANTS IN THE DAY AND A LOT OF ÃTHANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO FOR US

>> THANK YOU. >> NEXT CALLER? >> LARRY FARNSWORTH 157 MOSES

CREEK BLVD. >> MESSAGE FROM THE HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS IS VERY INCONSISTENT. STAY AWAY FROM LARGE CROWDS JEROME ADAMS IS THE CURRENT SURGEON GENERAL DOCTOR ROBERT REDFIELD DIRECTOR OF CDC AND THE FLORIDA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION. I ONLY SEE ONE COMMISSIONER THAT HAS LISTENED TO THE HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS. WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR ADVICE FROM? COULD IT BE FROM A CONSERVATIVE RADIO TALKSHOW HOST LOCATED IN SOUTH FLORIDA? HE'S THE ONLY PERSON I KNEW. IT IS A DANGEROUS AND RECKLESS APPROACH.

50 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION MIGHT BE IMMUNE PROBABLY RESULT IN 1590 DEATHS LIKE ONE PERCENT AND THOUSANDS THAT BOOK TO BE HOSPITALIZED. HERD IMMUNITY IS EXACTLY WHAT ARE YOU PRACTICING WHERE YOU DO NOTHING WEEK AFTER WEEK TO STOP THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.

WE WON'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS YOU GET HERE OKAY FROM THE GOVERNOR.

WE NEED LEADERS, NOT FOLLOWERS. WE NEED TO ENACT A MASK ORDINANCE TODAY AND LIMIT THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE AND ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH. YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO PHASE 1 OPENING GUIDELINES IS REALLY WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING AT THIS POINT.

NO MORE EXCUSES. I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK INSIDE YOUR HEART AND ASK YOURSELF, AM BY THE RIGHT PERSON AT THE RIGHT TIME FOR THIS JOB? I WONDER.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE?

THAT MAY BE IT >> HELLO? >> NAME AND ADDRESS >> JOHN GREGG SEMENZA, 548 DOMENICO CIR., ST. AUGUSTINE SHORES, 32086. I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER DEAN'S QUESTION TO THE STAFF ABOUT FLAGLER HOSPITAL'S CAPABILITY.

I FIND IT VERY INTERESTING THAT NOBODY ON THE STAFF COULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AND I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE GOOD WORK YOU ARE DOING. BUT IT APPEARS SOMEONE IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY CURRENTLY IS GETTING A 13 PERCENT TEST POSITIVE.

18 PERCENT IS RELATIVELY HIGH IN THAT CATEGORY. AND CURRENTLY, FLAGLER HOSPITAL HAS 37 PATIENTS IN THEIR FACILITY OF 335 BEDS, WHICH IS MAYBE A LITTLE OVER 10 PERCENT

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SO THERE'S ONLY 18 LEFT IN THE ICU. AND THAT IS ÃTHIS IS ALL COURTESY OF TODAY'S ST. AUGUSTINE RECORD. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE

A GREAT DAY. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS AT

THIS TIME. >> WELL, THAT COMPLETES THE CALL IN PUBLIC COMMENTS SO WE NOW WILL GO TO THE LIVE COMMENTS HERE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD,

PLEASE. AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> MY NAME IS BARBARA MCCARTHY.

I LIVE AT 161 TREE SIDE LN. IN PONTE VEDRE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN THIS AREA FOR 30 YEARS, A LITTLE OVER 30 YEARS, HAVE WORKED IN THE ACUTE HEALTHCARE ARENA MY ENTIRE CAREER. AND I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE BEHIND NOT MAKING A DECISION FOR MANDATORY MASKS.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE WAITING LIKE THE GENTLEMAN JUST SAID FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO SAY IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT DECISION YOURSELF WHEN EVERYTHING IS SHOWING YOU THAT THAT IS THE RIGHT DECISION TO MAKE FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS. EVERYONE CAN SEE THAT DUVALL COUNTY, ST. AUGUSTINE HAVE IMPLEMENTED THIS, AND THIS CAN'T BE POLITICAL.

THIS NEEDS TO BE ABOUT THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT, AND I'M AFRAID IT HAS TURNED INTO A POLITICAL THING, AND THAT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE. BUT WE NEED YOU AS OUR LEADERS TO BE THE ONE TO SAY THAT.

IT'S NOT ABOUT POLICE OFFICERS NOT BEING ABLE TO ENFORCE IT. DUVALL COUNTY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS AND NEITHER DOES ST. AUGUSTINE. PEOPLE WILL DO THE RIGHT THING WHEN LEADERS MAKE THE DECISION TO DO THIS AND SPEAK UP AND LEAD BY EXAMPLE.

AND THAT'S ALL WE ARE ASKING. PLEASE FULLY HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITIES, MAKE THE DECISION FOR MANDATORY MASKS INSIDE OF BUILDINGS UNLESS EATING AND OUTSIDE UNLESS YOU CAN SOCIAL

DISTANCE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

NAME AND ADDRESS. >> MY NAME IS TRACY WITH STEIN. I LIVE AT 135 TREE SIDE.

AND I'M HERE TODAY TO PRETTY MUCH BEG YOU TO ENFORCE FACEMASK. SAT HERE AND LISTENED TO A SPECIFIC COMMISSIONER QUESTION A VERY INTELLIGENT DOCTOR AND HE COVERED HIMSELF BY SAYING THAT WE ARE ENCOURAGING EVERYBODY TO DO THE RIGHT THING, SO WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING. I AM HERE TO SAY THAT IS FALSE. AND IT'S IN THE NUMBERS.

I CALLED IN AT THE LAST MEETING, AND I THINK MAYBE SOMEBODY COME UP AND SAID WE WERE T ONE PERCENT. NOW, BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING EVERYTHING YOU CAN, WE ARE AT 7.6 PERCENT. SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU THOUGHT WAS CORRECT, EVERYTHING THAT ALL OF YOU AGREED ON IS NOT CORRECT. AND IT'S RIGHT HERE IN THE NUMBERS. WE ARE DAMAGED BETWEEN AUGUSTINE AND JACKSONVILLE, AND EVERYBODY CAN COME IN FROM THOSE AREAS AND WE DON'T MANDATE.

YOU ARE LOOKING FOR EVERY BUSINESS, EVERY SMALL BUSINESS TO MANDATED.

AND YOU ARE ASKING FOR NUMBERS AND CHECK THE NUMBERS. THAT IS A WASTE OF TIME IF YOU JUST MANDATED THE COMMUNITY, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO GET ALL OF THESE NUMBERS TO TRY TO PROVE THAT MAYBE YOUR DECISION WAS RIGHT. MAYBE YOUR DECISION WAS WRONG.

WE ARE ABOUT TO HAVE A REPUBLICAN ELECTION RIGHT NEXT TO US, AND OUR LEADER JUST SHOWED HE COULD WEAR A MASK. BUT IT'S NOT ENFORCED. AND I DON'T KNOW ÃI AM

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IT BROKE MY HEART. I AM IN A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY WITH MANY OF US SAYING THE SAME THINGS, THAT OUR CHILDREN, BECAUSE OF FLORIDA, BECAUSE OF THIS COUNTY, THEY SAID DON'T COME NOW. I LOVE YOU. DON'T COME.

AND I BLAME ALL OF YOU. I CRIED BECAUSE OF THAT AND I BLAME EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SOME NUMBERS AND IT INCREASED. MY LAST CONVERSATION I SAID WHAT IS MY NUMBER? WHAT IS THE NUMBER THAT'S GOING TO TELL YOU MANDATING FACEMASKS IS THE RIGHT MOVE. NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE RECOMMENDING IT SO YOU FEEL GOOD.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I RECOMMEND. PEOPLE DON'T GET IT BECAUSE IT MAY BE NOT INTELLIGENT. I WONDER IF HE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT BOAT.

I AM BEGGING YOU AS I SPEAK FOR MY COMMUNITY WE ARE ALL BEGGING YOU TO MANDATE MASKS BECAUSE IT

IS THE RIGHT DECISION. >> MY NAME IS ALAN WITH STEIN 135 WOODSIDE LN. AND I WAS MY WIFE AND AM VERY PROUD OF HER FOR MAKING A PASSION PLAY FOR YOU GUYS TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

I WANT TO THANK DOCTOR ALCOTT AND THANKED THE FIRST COLLAR THAT CALLED AND SAVE ME A LOT OF REPETITION AND I WILL DO MY BEST NOT TO REPEAT A LOT OF INFORMATION.

I'M VERY HAPPY FOR PEOPLE WHO DO THE RIGHT THING. I'M GLAD THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO THE RIGHT THING. BUT THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T DO THE RIGHT THING AND THEY DON'T DO IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THERE'S A LACK OF LEADERSHIP AND A LACK OF DIRECTION AND MAYBE THEY DON'T DO THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THE POLITICS AHEAD OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND WE WISH THAT WAS NOT THE CASE. I AM HERE TO ADVOCATE SPECIFICALLY FOR A MASS MANDATE. THAT IS WHAT WE NEED.

PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW THEIR LEADERS. YOU WERE NOT ELECTED BECAUSE LEADERS DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE AND DIDN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR POLICIES OR DID NOT TRUST YOU.

YOU WERE ELECTED BECAUSE PEOPLE TRUSTED YOU. WE HAVE NO LEADERSHIP FROM THE TOP OR IN THE STATE. ST. AUGUSTINE HAS DONE THE RIGHT THING.

HERE IN ST. JOHNS, WE HAVE ACTUALLY DONE NOTHING. OTHER THAN HOPE THAT PEOPLE WEAR A MASK. I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU. HOPE IS NOT A STRATEGY.

I'M GOING TO REPEAT THAT. HOPE IS NOT A STRATEGY. I AM GOING TO BRING UP ANOTHER POINT FROM THE LAST MEETING BECAUSE I WATCHED IT ONLINE DESPITE THE INTERNET.

THERE SEEM TO BE A BIG DEAL ABOUT THE ABILITY TO HAVE SUFFICIENT LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ENFORCE A MASS MANDATE. IT WAS AN EXCUSE NOT TO TAKE ACTION.

IF YOU HAVE A MASK MANDATE, MOST PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW IT BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE WILL DO THE RIGHT THING. AND WE KNOW BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT EVERYONE WEARS MASKS FOR EVEN MOST PEOPLE WEAR MASKS BECAUSE MANDATE WON'T GET EVERYBODY TO DO IT.

YOU WILL DRAMATICALLY REDUCE THE SPREAD OF THIS VIRUS YOU WILL REDUCE SICKNESS AND DEATH.

YOU WILL REDUCE THE NUMBER OF DEATHS. SINCE I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME AM GOING TO SAY THIS: WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH? I SAY TIME IS NOW.

TO DO NOTHING AS A BOARD IS AN ACT OF COWARDICE AND I AM FOR THIS BOARD AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS MEETING TO MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE ON A MASK MANDATE AND I HOPE SOMEBODY HAS THE COURAGE

TO SECOND THAT MOTION. >> >> I ALSO SUPPORT A MANDATE FOR MASKS. I KNOW THIS IS A VERY TOUCHY SUBJECT.

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SCIENCE IS NOT PERFECT. WE ARE STRIVING TO DO SOMETHING GOOD IN REAL ENGINEERING OR LESS OTHER COMMENT THIS MORNING FOR HIM FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU AFTER THE COLONS.

THE FLORIDA STATUTE WAS UED BY THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE JULY 17 PREVENT PUBLIC COMMENT.

LEARNING THE PCC SPECIAL MEETING OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WHO IS NOT ELECTED AS THE AUTHORITY TO MANDATE THE REARING OF MOSQUES GREATLY CONCERNED AND CONCERNED ELECTED COMMISSIONERS? IT CAME TO MY ATTENTION 16 BIG CHAIN GROCERY STORES REQUIRING MASKS BECAUSE OF THE LAND TAKEN BY THE STATE AND COUNTY GOVERNMENTS.

THIS FALSE INFORMATION HAS BEEN ERECTED. STATE AND COUNTY HAVE NOT MANDATED THE MASKS. THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE USED POLITICIANS TO MANDATE. THIS DECISION IS THE PUBLIC IN THE COUNTY TO HIM SITTING HERE LISTENING, I MAY HAVE MISINTERPRETED BUT THIS IS WHAT I WAS UNDERSTANDING.

IN MR. BLANCA'S QUESTIONS, HE SEEMED TO BE LEADING INDIVIDUALS WHO WORKED FOR THE COUNTY AND WHO COME IN HERE ON THE PHONE AND SPEAK TO USE THE WORD MANDATE.

I COULD BE WRONG, BUT THAT WAS THE IMPRESSION I GOT FROM HIM. HE MIGHT AND ALSO, MS. ANDREWS EXPLAINED WHAT YOU WERE DOING I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY DON'T HAVE TO LOOSENING THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW THIS AND I THINK THE CITY HOW MANY COUNTY EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID-19. WE SHOULD KNOW THAT NUMBER THAT WILL NOT MEAN THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A MANDATE. I AGREE. IT IS GOING TO BE A TIME AM LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS AFTER TIME.

I'M SURE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WILL TELL US. I TRY TO BE RESPECTFUL OF

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WE ARE NOT STUPID. WE HAVE AN OPINION. >> THANK YOU.

>> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY. BEFORE THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS COMPLETED AND YOU MOVE ON WITH YOUR AGENDA, I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT A CONSTITUENT, DOCTOR RUTH HOPE, HAD PROVIDED SOME MATERIALS PERTAINING TO YOUR LAST MEETING ON THE 14TH AND INCLUDED IN THOSE MATERIALS IS A LETTER A MASK MANDATE AND A PETITION THAT HAD 112, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS SIGNING THAT. I WILL NOTE THAT LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE COMMISSION RECEIVED A COPY OF THAT. I WILL PLACE THIS INTO THE RECORD, AND FOR OTHER CONSTITUENTS THAT HAD EMAILED INTO THE COUNTY PUBLIC HEARING EMAIL LINE, OR IF THEY EMAILED TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND IT WAS CLEAR THAT IT PERTAINS TO ENGINE ITEM, THAT THOSE MATERIALS ALSO WILL BE PLACED INTO THE RECORD. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR

>> THANK YOU. >> I BELIEVE WE HAVE ANOTHER COLOR THAT JOINT.

GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING. ONLINE?

>> YES. NAME AND ADDRESS BOTOX. TREE CYCLING IN PONTE VEDRE.

>> THANK YOU. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> I SAT AND LISTENED TO THE PRESENTATIONS TODAY AND I HEAR THE WORD ENCOURAGE, ENCOURAGE, ENCOURAGE OVER AGAIN.

THE REALITY IS ENCOURAGEMENT IS NOT ENOUGH AND ENCOURAGEMENT DOES NOT WORK.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE EVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE NEXT DOOR AND NOT ALLOWS COMMUNITY DIFFERS TO TALK TO EACH OTHER. A LARGE NUMBER OF THOSE FOLKS BELIEVE THIS VIRUS IS FAKE AND THAT IT'S A SCAM BECAUSE OUR POLITICAL LEADERS ARE NOT STANDING UP AND ENCOURAGING AND MANDATING MASKS. LET'S LOOK AT HISTORY.

I'M OLD ENOUGH TO NOTICE. MANY YEARS AGO, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PUT ON SEATBELTS IN THEIR CAR AND YOU KNOW WHAT? SO MANY PEOPLE DID IT AND THEN WE MANDATED IT NOW ALMOST EVERYBODY WEARS A SEATBELT, AND THAT'S TO THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT.

THIS IS NOT A TIME FOR POLITICS. DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE HEALTHCARE OR SCIENCE BACKGROUNDS. THE NUMBERS PRESENTED TWICE IN THE PAST WEEK THIS IS THE TIME TO ACT IN ALL OF US WILL BE LOOKING FOR POLITICAL COURAGE FROM THE COMMISSIONERS TO STAND AND TAKE A POSITION. THIS IS THE TIME TO REALLY DO SOMETHING TO PUT A DENT AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU THIS MORNING.

>> ANY OTHER COLLARS NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE? >> GOOD MORNING.

THIS IS ED SLAVEN BOX 3084. AT SLAVEN.COM. I WANT TO COMMEND YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN, FOR BRINGING UP THE MASK ISSUE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND YOU ARE RIGHT.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYBODY ELSE IS WRONG BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING FROM A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW. THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE. WE ACTUALLY PAY PEOPLE MONEY TO BRING BUSINESSES AND JOBS HERE TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I DO BELIEVE THAT NOT HAVING A STRONGER MASK ORDINANCE WE ARE DISCOURAGING BUSINESSES. WE ARE BASICALLY TELLING THE WORLD WE ARE A BUNCH OF REDNECK WOODPECKERS AND WE DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER TO HAVE A MASK ORDINANCE WHEN ST. AUGUSTINE HAS ONE AND ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH HAS ONE.

JACKSONVILLE HAS BEEN DULY HAVE A CHIEF ECONOMIST YET? PLEASE, WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS, IF WE DON'T CONTAIN THIS VIRUS? ACTIVITY IS ALREADY COME TO A

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I WAS NOT PARTICULARLY IMPRESSED WITH THE DOCTORS LACK OF A SUBSTANTIVE RESPONSE.

I THINK WE NEED STRONGER WHISTLEBLOWER PROVISIONS AND PRODUCTION SHE'S NOT AFRAID FOR HER JOB. THE COUNTY STAFF COULD NOT EVEN ANSWER MR. DEAN'S BASIC QUESTION ABOUT THE DEATHS AT FLAGLER HOSPITAL. YOU NEED BETTER STAFF WORK.

WE NEED A NATIONAL SEARCH FOR A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND A COUNTY ATTORNEY.

WE NEED THE BEST PEOPLE IN THOSE POSITIONS RATHER THAN JUST SOME MEDIOCRITY POLITICIANS WANT TO DUPE INTO THEM AND I BELIEVE COMPROMISE IS THE WAY TO DO THIS.

FIRST OF ALL, OSHA UNDER EUGENE SCALIA, SECRETARY OF LABOR, REFUSES TO DO A MASK ORDINANCE.

IF OSHA HAD DONE ITS JOB WE WOULD NOT BE HERE TALKING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE MANDATORY. I DO BELIEVE THAT UNDER THE OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND ACT UNDER THE GENERAL DUTY CLAUSE EVERY EMPLOYER HAS A DUTY TO PROVIDE MASK.

IF THEY ARE NOT DOING LET'S HELP THEM WITH PURCHASING. LET'S HELP THEM WITH EDUCATION.

LET'S HELP THEM PROTECT THEIR BOTTOM LINE AND THE PUBLIC AND THEN OUR ECONOMY WILL COME BACK FROM AS LONG AS WE ARE HERE IN THIS SITUATION DICTATED BY POLITICS, SOME REPUBLICAN FRIENDS ARE AFRAID TO VOTE FOR COORDINATES AS THEY ARE AFRAID THE TEA PARTY WILL COME ÃWHAT WILL THEY DO? THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE. YOU HAVE ANY TIME DOCUMENT

>> NO. YOU ARE DONE. THANK YOU

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COLLARS >> OKAY.

THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WITH PUBLIC, NOW CLOSED WE WILL GO BACK TO THE BOARD.

[Consent Agenda]

ANY DELETIONS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM 2 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TO THE REGULAR AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION, PLEASE, SIR.

>> REMOVING CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO TO MAKE IT NUMBER SIX ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.

ANY OTHER DELETIONS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> NO, SIR

>> ADMINISTRATION? >> NO SIR. WITH A REMOVAL OF CONSENT I DON'T AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA

>> I MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED. >> I HAVE A MOTION.

TO HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND >> HAVE A SECOND HIGH COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE WE WILL PROCEED WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE TO GET YOU IN THERE.

>> I MAS AS WELL. ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE REGULAR AGENDA APART FROM

[Regular Agenda]

>> NONE >> COMMISSION BLOCKER? >> NO, SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNS? >> NONE. ADMINISTRATION?

>> NONE, SIR. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REGULAR AGENDA AS

AMENDED. >> I MOVE THE REGULAR AGENDA AS AMENDED.

>> ABOLITION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JOHNS.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE WILL PROCEED WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE.

[1. Visitor and Convention Bureau's report on marketing efforts for the Republican National Convention. (Part 1 of 2)]

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICES TO THE PEOPLE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. IT'S CLEAR THAT IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT JOB AND WE APPRECIATE IT. MY NAME IS RICHARD GOLDMAN AND I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE ST. AUGUSTINE PONTE VEDRE BEACHES AS THERE IS A CONVENTION BUREAU.

I HAVE BROUGHT WITH ME SUSAN PHILLIPS, THE DIRECTOR OF TOURISM AND PROMOTION.

WILLIAM MCBROOM DIRECTOR OF SALES CANNOT BE WITH US BUT HE IS THE PRIMARY CONTACT AND HAS

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IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, VISIT JACKSONVILLE, AND THEY JACKSONVILLE HOST COMMITTEE ARE THE OFFICIAL HOSTS OF THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION. WE CONTRIBUTED TO THEIR SUCCESSFUL BID SO OUR MISSION NOW IS TO WORK ON WAYS TO LEVERAGE THAT EVENTS PROXIMITY FOR AS MUCH ECONOMIC BENEFIT FOR OUR COUNTY AS POSSIBLE. SOME OF THOSE AREAS ARE GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON CONVINCING THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE ATTENDING AND SOAP OR MONEY HERE COMMENCING MANY OF THEM WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY BEFORE BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM TO RETURN SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE WITH THEIR FAMILIES.

WE ARE ALSO FOCUSING ON THOSE WHO ARE INFLUENTIAL IN THEIR ORGANIZATIONS TO BRING BUSINESS AND BRING BUSINESS TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN THE FUTURE. AND FINALLY THE LONG-TERM ECONOMIC BENEFIT WILL BE EXPOSING THIS WONDERFUL DESTINATION WE CALL HOME IS A GREAT PLACE FOR THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS AND BUSINESS LEADERS TO BRING AND RELOCATE THEIR BUSINESSES AND FAMILIES FOR THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT. SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO TODAY IS WE WILL BE VERY BRIEF. HOW WE ARE LEVERAGING THE EVENT TO THE BENEFIT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THE REVENUE THAT WILL BE GENERATED AND IS PROJECTED TO IMPACT OUR COUNTY WE WILL SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS LEADING UP TO THE EVENT AND SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH. AND ALSO, PROVIDE YOU WITH A SHORT VIDEO OF WHAT WE ARE DOING TO WELCOME THE ATTENDEES. AFTERWARDS, WE WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. SO IN JUNE WE STARTED BY PROVIDING INPUT ON THE ST.

JOHNS COUNTIES HOTELS THAT JACKSONVILLE WAS PREPARING. YOU KNOW THAT BID WAS SUCCESSFUL. WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE DIRECTOR OF SALES AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO DELIVER THE REQUIRED COMMITTED ROOMS FOR THE RNC. THEY REQUIRED 10,000 ROOMS PER DAY AND IT WAS THE WORK THAT WILLIAM DID THAT HELPED MAKE THOSE COMMITMENTS HAPPEN.

WE ALSO FACILITATED THE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN STAKEHOLDERS AND THE RNC.

MOVE DIRECTORS OF SALES WHO PNEED OUR HELP TO COMPLETE THE DEALS WITH THE RNC.

WE'VE BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK DONE THESE THINGS IN A NUMBER OF THE DIRECTORS OF SALES HAVE NOT. AND SO THEY HAD NEEDED OUR ASSISTANCE.

WE CONFIRMED OVER 1700 HOTEL ROOM NIGHTS IN 24 ÃI APOLOGIZE FOR THE TYPO ÃIN 24 OF OUR DESTINATIONS HOTELS. THAT CONTRIBUTED TOWARDS THE 10,000 REQUIRED PER DAY BY THE RNC. BASED ON ADDITIONAL GROUPS, HOWEVER, THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN

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WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH THE RNC HOST ROOMS AND VENUE COMMITTEE CONTACTS AND THOSE CONTACTS INCLUDE SUSIE WILES WHO WE KNOW IS A POLITICAL STRATEGIST AND CONSULTANT WHO HAPPENS TO LIVE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND IS WORKING WITH THE RNC.

REBECCA WASSERSTEIN WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF HOTELS AND HOTEL VENUES.ND HER MANAGER JULIA CICERO ALLIE. WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH THE OFFICIAL COMMITTEE ON ARRANGEMENTS. THAT TEAM IS LED BY SARAH HIGGINBOTHAM AND WE ARE DELIVERING MAIL TO HER VENDORS, NOT JUST HOTELS, BUT ALSO ALL KINDS OF VENDORS WHO CAN BE HELPFUL TO THE RNC. AND I AM AMENDING THE THIRD BULLET BECAUSE AS OF FRIDAY, THE RNC AS ASSIGNED THE DELEGATIONS TO HOTELS. TWO OF OUR HOTELS WILL BE HOSTING FIVE DIFFERENT STATE DELEGATIONS. THAT IS IN NO MEANS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF IMPACTS THAT WE WILL HAVE. AS I SAID, WE HAVE 24 HOTELS CONTRIBUTING, AND WE HAVE BEEN ASSURED THEY WILL GET SOME BUSINESS.

SO WHAT'S THE TAKE AWAY? ST. JOHNS COUNTIES COMMITMENT ROOMS ESSENTIAL TO FULFILLING THE RNC'S MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, 10,000 ROOMS. SCALE NATURE OF THE CONFERENCE HOTELS MAKES THEM ATTRACTIVE TO THE ORGANIZATION OF THIS CALIBER BECAUSE OUR HOTELS ARE OF SUCH GREAT VALUE THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET A SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC IMPACT FROM THEIR PRESENCE. FINALLY, THROUGH EXPOSURE TO OUR PROPERTIES AND OUR DESTINATIONS, WE THINK THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME FUTURE ECONOMIC BENEFITS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS, AS I SUGGESTED BUSINESS RELOCATION IN THE LONG-TERM AND ALSO POTENTIAL MEETINGS FROM ASSOCIATIONS AND GROUPS THAT THESE PEOPLE PARTICIPATE WITH.

SO WHAT IS THE VALUE? CONSERVATIVELY, AND I WILL SHARE WITH YOU ÃCONSERVATIVELY WE ARE ESTIMATING AND ROOMS ALONE, THAT ATTENDEES WILL SPEND $1.83 MILLION.

THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANCILLARY SPENDING FOR FOOD AND BEVERAGE, ENTERTAINMENT, ADDITIONAL GROUPS OR EXTENDED STAYS BY ATTENDEES, WHICH WE PLAN TO LEVERAGE.

NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO ÃIF I CAN'T ÃASK SUSAN TO RUN THROUGH SOME OF THE CREATIVE AND COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE ARE OFFERING TO THOSE ATTENDEES AND HOTELS.

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU THIS MORNING.

I GET THE FUN PART, I SUPPOSE, TO GO OVER MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO START OUT WITH US TO LOOK AT THE LETTER WE HAVE ALREADY TOLD JIM SMITH TO CREATE AND THIS IS A WELCOME LETTER TO THE RNC ATTENDEES. KEEP IN MIND OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO LEVERAGE THIS EVENT TO GET FOLKS TO STAY HERE LONGER AND SPEND MONEY.

IN THE SHORT TERM WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT BUT ALSO LONGER-TERM YOU WANT TO PLANT THE SEED AND LOOKED AT RETURNING IN THE FUTURE EITHER FROM A VISIT WITH HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS OR TO POSSIBLY RELOCATE. WOMEN LOOK AT THE RNC ATTENDEES WE ARE TRYING TO REACH WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOT ONLY STATE DELEGATIONS BUT THEIR STAFF, THEIR FAMILY, THEIR FRIENDS.

THE MEDIA. SECURITY. AND ANYONE ELSE.

SO OUR CHALLENGE IS HOW DO WE GET THIS MESSAGE TO THEM. THERE'S NOT A WAY FOR US TO HAVE AN EMAIL LIST. WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO A MASS MAILING SO WHAT WE DETERMINED WAS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY WAS TO MORE CLEVERLY WORK WITH OUR CHALLENGES THAT WILLIAM HAS ESTABLISHED WITH THE RNC INTEGRATE THIS WELCOME LETTER AND IT HAS A LINK AND IT TO OUR TRAVEL PLANNER AND AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MOMENT. THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT US BEFORE THEY COME HERE AND START PLANNING THE TRIP. WE KNOW FIRST TIME OUR VISITORS AND WE WANT TO EXPOSE THEM TO THE DESTINATION AND A VARIETY OF ACTIVITIES AVAILABLE AND EXPERIENCES. BY GIVING THEM THE LINK IN ADVANCE WE WANT THEM TO SEE

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THIS LETTER IS CREATED IN EMAIL FORMAT AND WILLIAM IS SHARING THIS WITH ALL OF HIS RNC CONTACTS AND HE IS ALSO SHARING THIS SEPARATE LINK FOR RNC CELEBRATION.COM SO THAT WE CAN GIVE ÃGET FOLKS TO GO TO THE LANDING PAGE AND I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT ALL WE HAVE TO OFFER.

SO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS OUR TRAVEL PLANNER. I WILL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A COPY OF THIS. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL VISUAL EXAMPLE, AND IT SHOWCASES OUR ENTIRE DESTINATION. IT SHOWS THE ATTRACTIONS, IT SHOWS THE ACTIVITIES YOU CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. IT SHOWS OUR NATURAL RESOURCES, HISTORY, CULTURE, AND SO MUCH MORE. IN ADDITION TO HAVING A LINK THAT WAS IN THE WELCOME LETTER, WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE PLACING THESE PHYSICAL COPIES AT VARIOUS HOTEL PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT ST. JOHNS COUNTY SO THAT FOLKS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

AND IF WE LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS OUR LANDING PAGE AND WE ARE PROUD OF THIS.

THE RNC CELEBRATION PAGE. AND YOU SEE WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THIS FESTIVE, WE ARE TRYING TO GIVE THEM A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO CROSS SELL AND CROSS MESSAGE TO GET THEM TO LOOK AT US NOT ONLY FOR FUTURE VISITS, BUT WE HAVE A NUMBER AT THE TOP AND IF THEY WANT TO BRING THE BUSINESS MEETING HERE IN THE FUTURE WE ALLOW THEM TO EXPLORE THAT. WE ALSO HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUTTON AND WE ALSO HAVE A MEDIA BUTTON BECAUSE OF OUR MEDIA FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN FACTS ABOUT US AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PHOTO. AND NOW WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU IS AND RNC WELCOME VIDEO. IT'S A SHORT VIDEO AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO SHARE WITH

PARTICIPANTS. >> WHEN DO MEETINGS BECOME Ã WHEN GRANTS MAKE GREAT PLACES.

WITH A GILDED AGE MEETS THE GOLDEN HOUR. HERE, TIME OFF MEETS TIMELESS.

WHILE DINING ALFRESCO, WE HAVE DANCING ALL NIGHT. AT TEE TIME IT TURNS INTO ME TIME. THIS IS WHERE OLD WORLD CHARM MEETS NEW WAVE MOVES.

AND JUST ABOUT EVERY NIGHT, MUSIC TRANSFORMS INTO MAGIC. ST. AUGUSTINE, PONTE VEDRE, FLORIDA'S HISTORIC COAST WHERE MEETINGS BECOME MEMORIES. VISIT US AT MY FLORIDA

MEETINGS.COM. >> I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY.

>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER JOHNSON HI >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. THIS IS HELPFUL AND EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.

APPRECIATE THE VARIETY OF THINGS ALTHOUGH IF I HEARD CORRECTLY THE SURGEON GENERAL IS ISSUING A HEALTH ADVISORY RECOMMENDING NO MORE THAN 10 PEOPLE IN A GROUP DOWN FROM THE 50? WE STILL HAVE SO MANY THINGS AS YOU SHOWING THE VIDEO WE DO HAVE TO OFFER THAT WE CAN DO SO SAFELY AND IT'S IMPORTANT WE GET THAT WORD OUT TO PEOPLE WHO WILL BE COMING HERE. AND WE WILL SHOW THEM WE DO HAVE THINGS TO OFFER AND THIS

IS A VERY GOOD WAY TO DO IT. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> SEEING NONE, HAVE A GREAT

[2. Discussion of SB 1066. (Part 1 of 2)]

MR. MACCORMACK? >> MR. MCCORMACK: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

I AM GOING TO DISCUSS FOR THE BOARD, THIS NEW SENATE BILL 1066, WHICH RECENTLY BECAME FLORIDA LAW, AND BEFORE I GET INTO KIND AT THE SUBSTANCE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY FROM MY

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[1. Visitor and Convention Bureau's report on marketing efforts for the Republican National Convention. (Part 2 of 2)]

>> IF YOU DON'T MIND I DID NOT OFFER OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT NUMBER ONE IF YOU DON'T MIND I DON'T LIKE ÃI WOULD LIKE TO BACKUP. WE WILL SLIP OVER AND DO THAT.

I APOLOGIZE >> TOM REYNOLDS 50 BRIGANTINE CT.

EARLY ON PUBLIC COMMENT, PUBLIC INPUT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE VERSUS NUMBER TWO?

>> THIS IS FOR NUMBER ONE. >> THIS IS FOR THE ONE THAT THE PCP JUST DID A PRESENTATION ON?

>> YES, SIR >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONERS ANY OTHER TIME I'D BE REALLY HAPPY ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMING BUT I AM NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT AT ALL.

I REALLY DO THINK THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD BE WRITING LETTERS STOPPING ÃTRYING TO STOP THIS CONVENTION. THIS IS ABOUT TIME HE COULD REALLY PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE AT BEST. HOWEVER THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL PRESENTATION THAT I GAVE AND I'VE ALWAYS SAID THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT I HOPE THAT THE BCD HAS T.V.

COMMERCIALS AND WELL-TO-DO AREAS OF THE COUNTRY TO BRING PEOPLE IN LIKE THIS.

I SET THIS YEAR'S AGO. WHEN YOU DO THE PRESENTATION FOR THE BCD AND THEY SAY AT THEIR S. AUGUSTINE, PONTE VEDRE. I AM REALLY STILL SAYING WE ARE MISSING OUT BIG FOR IT NOT TO SAY ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH. ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH, FOLKS, IT BLOWS OLD ST. AUGUSTINE AWAY. OUR HOTELS ARE CLEANER AND THEIR BIGGER AND NICER.

OUR RESTAURANTS ARE NICER. >> WITH HER BACK TO THE BOARD >> THANK YOU, I APOLOGIZE FOR

[2. Discussion of SB 1066. (Part 2 of 2)]

THAT INTERRUPTION. >> MR. CHAIR, THAT IS FINE. I WILL NOTE ITEM NUMBER ONE WAS A PRESENTATION AND THERE WAS NO BOARD ACTION AND ALTHOUGH PUBLIC COMMENT WAS NOT REQUIRED BY LAW, THE BOARD COMMONLY PROVIDES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT JUST AS A MATTER OF COURSE.

LET HIM GO 1066, GENERALLY, FOR IMPACT FEE CREDITS, YOU CAN READ THERE, LEE COUNTY STARTED THE IMPACT FEE PROGRAM BACK IN 1987. GENERALLY, THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCES, AND THEY PERTAIN TO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND ROADS BEING ONE.

GENERALLY RESTRICT THE USE OF CREDITS TO THE SUBJECT DEVELOPMENT.

THE DEVELOPMENT FOR WHICH THE IMPACTS WERE CREATED AND THEN THE CREDITS.

AND THEY REQUIRE ASSIGNMENT OUTSIDE AND APPROVAL FOR TRANSFER ASSIGNMENT OUTSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD REQUIRE DEMONSTRATING OF THE CREDIT EARNING CONTRIBUTION TO THE

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SO THAT NEW SUBSECTION 8 OF THE STATUTE AND I WON'T READ THE WHOLE THING THERE.

BUT ESSENTIALLY, IMPACT FEES ARE A SIGNED AND TRANSFERABLE AND YOU CAN READ THROUGH THEIR SO IT HAS THE EFFECT THAT IMPACT FEE CREDITS CAN BE TRANSFERRED OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT FOR WHICH THEY WERE CREATED. EITHER WITH THE SAME IMPACT FEE ZONE AS THE BOARD KNOWS THEY HAVE FOUR SEPARATE ZONES FOR IMPACT FEES AND THEY ÃWITH THE CRITERION THAT'S ÃSENATE BILL 1066. SOME ISSUES PERTAINING TO IT WHETHER IT'S PERSPECTIVE VERSUS RETROSPECTIVE, IN OTHER WORDS, IT CERTAINLY WOULD AFFECT IMPACT FEE CREDITS ESTABLISHED AFTER JULY 1 IT IS A CLICKABLE TO IMPACT FEE CREDITS THAT WERE CREATED PRIOR TO THAT IS AN ISSUE. I WILL TELL YOU AS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, MY POSITION IS THAT IT IS PERSPECTIVE AND NOT RETROSPECTIVE AND IN PART BECAUSE IF IT WERE TO BE SEEN AS RETROSPECTIVE, THEN THERE WOULD BE AN ISSUE ABOUT IMPAIRMENT OF CONTRACTS WHICH IS A CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION THAT THE LEGISLATURE CAN'T CHANGE AND THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 170 IMPACT FEE CREDIT RELATED AGREEMENTS AT THE COUNTY HAS OUT THERE AND SO I THINK WHAT THE ÃBACK TO THE PERSPECTIVE VERSUS RETROSPECTIVE APPLICATION. THERE IS A PRESUMPTION THAT STATUTE APPLIED PROSPECTIVELY AND ANOTHER WAS GOING FORWARD AND NOT GOING BACKWARDS WHEN THERE IS A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE IN THE LAW WHICH CREATES SUMMATIVE NEW RIGHTS. WHICH THIS CERTAINLY APPEARS TO DO. FOR THE IMPAIRMENT OF CONTRACT WHERE THE LAW WOULD HAVE THE EFFECT OF CHANGING THE RIGHTS OF PARTIES AND PRE-EXISTING CONTRACTS AS FOR THE PROVISION PERTAINING TO IMPAIRMENT CONTRACTS COMES FROM. AND THEN ALSO, PARTICULARLY IF IT WERE SOMEHOW DEEMED TO BE RETROSPECTIVE, MY SENSE IS THAT IT WOULD BE AN ISSUE AS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE. AGAIN, A CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. AND AN UNFUNDED MANDATE GOES TO WHERE A REVENUE SOURCE MAY BE REDUCED AND THERE'S SORT OF A TEST FOR THE IN TERMS OF A DOLLAR FIGURE BUT IF RETROSPECTIVE IT WOULD MEET THAT TEST AND THAT TEST WOULD NOT BE JUST FOR ST. JOHNS

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TO BE LAWFUL AS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE, A NEW STATUTE WOULD REQUIRE TWO THIRDS OF EACH HOUSE APPROVAL WHICH IN FACT, SENATE BILL 1066 DID RECEIVE. IT WAS UNANIMOUS AT THE SENATE AND IT WAS JUST OVER TWO THIRDS IN THE HOUSE. HOWEVER, THERE IS A FURTHER REQUIREMENT THAT THERE MUST BE A LEGISLATIVE FINDING OF AN IMPORTANT STATE INTEREST WHICH WAS NOT PRESENT IN SENATE BILL 1066. SO POTENTIAL AFFECT OF 1066 ON ST. JOHNS COUNTY, IT MAY POTENTIALLY AFFECT 78 MILLION+ AN EXISTING CREDITS.

FUTURE COLLECTION OF IMPACT FEES AND THE REASON THAT NUMBER IS APPROXIMATE, OUR COUNTY STAFF DID A REVIEW BACK IN THE FEBRUARY TIMEFRAME WHEN THIS ISSUE WAS LOOKED INTO VERY SIGNIFICANTLY AND THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A JUDGMENT CALL AS TO THE AMOUNT THAT IT WOULD AFFECT, BUT THAT IS SORT OF THE BEST SENSE OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACT WHICH IS A LARGE NUMBER.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE TIME AND COST TRACKING AND PROCESS Ã PROCESSING CREDIT TRANSFERS. RIGHT NOW, EVEN WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM WITHOUT SENATE BILL 1066, THE COUNTY UTILIZES WHAT'S CALLED A VOUCHER PROGRAM OR A HOLDER OF CREDITS FOR A DEVELOPMENT MAY MAKE A HUGE BUSINESS DEAL TO TRANSFER THIS CREDITS FOR USE IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF EITHER ANOTHER PARTY SO THERE'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK AND TRACKING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT. THERE IS ÃTHIS 1066, WHETHER IT WAS JUST PERSPECTIVE OR IF IT WERE ALSO RETROSPECTIVE, BACK WORKING, IT WOULD CAUSE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ADMINISTRATIVE TIME AND COST. SO ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF TRANSFERRING OUT OF AN IMPACT FEE ZONE WOULD INCLUDE THAT THE RECEIVING ZONE RECEIVES BENEFITS FROM THE CONTRIBUTION THAT GENERATED THE CREDITS AND SOME LANGUAGE FOR THAT NEW SUBSECTION.

THAT REQUIRED QUITE A BIT OF AN ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE THAT IS TIME AND COST TO DO THAT.

FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW OPTION ONE, TWO, THREE ARE A MENU EITHER ONE OR TWO OR THREE BUT NOT A MULTIPLE OF THOSE. PHOWEVER, THERE IS A LITTLE BREAK IN THE SLIDE BETWEEN THREE AND 42 AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE FOUR AND FIVE COULD BE DONE WITH ANY OF THE ÃTHEY COULD BE DONE AT REALLY AT ANY TIME AND ARE NOT DEPENDENT ON WHICH ONE OF THE OPTIONS, ONE, TO AND THREE. TWO OPTION ONE IS ALLOWED TRANSFERS BY NOT CONTESTING THE RETROSPECTIVE APPLICATION. WHAT THAT OPTION WOULD BE IS THE COUNTY IS SORT OF A POLICY EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE GROUNDS SENATE BILL 1066 IS NOT RETROSPECTIVE COULD ALLOW IT TO BE TREATED AS RETROSPECTIVE. THEY COULD MAKE IT AS A POLICY DECISION FOR HIMSELF.

THUS OPTION ONE. BUT THAT WOULD IMPACT ON THE EARLIER SLIDE THE SIGNIFICANT

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IN OTHER WORDS, THE CREDITS THAT WERE IN PLACE BY JULY 1 CAN BE CONSIDERED ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. IN FACT, MOST OF THE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE THE IMPACT FEE CREDIT AGREEMENT PROVIDE THAT THE COUNTY MAY APPROVE THE TRANSFER OF EXISTING CREDITS IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. SO THE COUNTY STILL HAS TO HAVE AUTHORITY.

SO THAT WOULD BE OPTION NUMBER TWO. OPTION NUMBER THREE WOULD CONTEST REALLY THE WHOLE NEW PARAGRAPH EIGHT, THAT NEW PROVISION THAT WAS DESCRIBED ON THE EARLIER SLIDE. TO BASICALLY CONTEST BOTH PERSPECTIVE AND RETROSPECTIVE APPLICATION. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS I HAVE DESCRIBED PARTICULARLY FOR RETROSPECTIVE APPLICATION, IT WOULD BE THAT POTENTIALLY TENS OF MILLIONS IN LOST REVENUE BUT EVEN FOR PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE OF THE SIGNIFICANT STAFF TIME TO TRY TO DETERMINE THE PROPER TRANSFERS AND TRACKING AND OTHER COSTS ASSOCIATED POTENTIALLY, EVEN THE PROSPECTIVE APPLICATION WOULD INVOLVE THAT UNFUNDED MANDATE LANGUAGE.

IN FACT, ON JULY 7 ÃSO THAT WAS AFTER THIS BILL BECAME EFFECTIVE ON JULY 7 OF THIS YEAR. THERE IS AN OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH, EDR, UP IN TALLAHASSEE. AND WHAT THEY DO AMONG OTHER THINGS IS REVIEW RECENTLY ENACTED LEGISLATION OR RECENTLY ENACTED LAW AND DETERMINE THE FINANCIAL EFFECTS OF IT ON THE STATE BUT ALSO ON LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. IN FACT, DAY REVIEW SENATE BILL 1066. AND THEY COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FINANCIALLY. AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR DECISION AND I WATCHED THEIR HEARING WHICH WAS ON THEIR LEGISLATIVE T.V. AS I DON'T THINK THEY EVEN CONSIDERED THE ISSUE OF RETROSPECTIVE. I THINK EVEN PROSPECTIVE, I THINK MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT FINANCIALLY.

ALTHOUGH AN INDETERMINATE AMOUNT, AND THEY HAVE A LESSER CATEGORY THAN INDETERMINATE NEGATIVES THAT COULD HAVE EVEN SAID NO EFFECT. OR THEY COULD HAVE SAID AN INSIGNIFICANT EFFECT, WHICH I THINK DOES TO 50,000 OR LESS. BUT THEY DIDN'T SAY EITHER OF THOSE. THEY SAID INDETERMINATE NEGATIVE WHICH WOULD APPLY A GREATER THAN $50,000 AFFECT. THOSE ARE THE THREE MAIN OPTIONS.

AGAIN, THIS BOARD ITEM DOES NOT RECOVER ÃREQUIRE ANY BOARD ACTION AND SHOULD IT CHOOSE TO THEY SHOULD GIVE DIRECTION AND AND PARTICULARLY OF THE OPTIONS ONE, TWO, AND THREE.

MY LEGAL POSITION AS YOUR COUNTY ATTORNEY IS THAT OPTION NUMBER TWO IS APPLICABLE, BUT THE BOARD COULD GIVE DIRECTIONS FOR ITEM ÃOPTION ONE 43. FOUR AND FIVE, THEY COULD BE

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BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE PCOUNTY COULD DO. SEPARATE FROM THAT THE COUNTY COULD REVIEW THE IMPACT FEE SCHEDULE SORT OF THE AMOUNT OF IMPACT FEES FOR VARIOUS USES.

AND I BELIEVE WE MAY HAVE SOMEONE FROM GROWTH MANAGEMENT ON THE PHONE IF THERE IS SORT OF A MORE DETAILED EXPLANATION OF THAT BUT I THINK AS THE BOARD KNOWS THE COUNTY HAS IMPLEMENTED AN IMPACT FEE SCHEDULE. ANY PARTICULAR RESIDENTIAL OR NONRESIDENTIAL USE AND I THINK ALSO AS A POLICY CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THE COUNTY WANTED TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY FOR NONRESIDENTIAL THAT IT BASICALLY DISCOUNTED THE AMOUNT OF FEES ÃTHE AMOUNT OF IMPACT FEES THAT COULD BE PAYABLE FOR NONRESIDENTIAL.

BUT BECAUSE BY LAW, THE IMPACT FEES CAN'T BE SKEWED UNFAIRLY BETWEEN THE NONRESIDENTIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL, THE COUNTY HAS ALSO DISCOUNTED THE RESIDENTIAL IMPACT FEE RATE.

I BELIEVE TO THE ORDER OF 40 PERCENT. IF I CORRECT ABOUT THAT, PLEASE LET US KNOW. SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE OPTIONS.

THAT IS THE PRESENTATION. THERE IS THIS NEW SENATE BILL AND WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT IT FOR TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM, I DID PUT OUT A NOTICE TO THE SORT OF IMPACT FEE HOLDERS AND SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY LEGAL COUNSEL AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME OF THEM WITH US TODAY.

I WOULD NOTE THAT IS NOT AS UNCOMMON THERE COULD BE SOME DEBATE ABOUT ALMOST ANY OF THE ISSUES I HAVE DESCRIBED TO YOU AND IF WE COULD BRING BACK UP THAT OPTION, MR. CHAIR, I WOULD

PROFFER IT BACK TO THE BOARD. >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD?

>> YES SIR. THIS IS MR. BLOCKER. THANK YOU.

MR. MCCORMICK, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. OBVIOUSLY, THIS HAS AN IMPORTANT IMPACT REVENUE AND COMMUNITY. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. YOU MENTIONED IF THIS IS RETROACTIVE, THE IMPACT ON THE CREDITS COULD BE UP TO 78 MILLION.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. AT THIS TIME, THAT'S AN INDETERMINATE NUMBER.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SPECIFICS ARE. >> IT IS.

YOU KNOW, THERE IS SORT OF A Ã SOME JUDGMENT AND HAVING TO DETERMINE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IF I MAY GIVE A VERY QUICK EXAMPLE OF THAT, WHERE THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT, THEY CREATED ÃI WILL USE AROUND NUMBERS. $10 MILLION WORTH OF ACTUAL IMPACTS BUT NOT DEVELOPMENT COMING THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS OFFERED TO BUILD, SAY, $15 MILLION WORTH OF

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BUT THAT UNDER THE APPROVAL THAT THEY HAD AND IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES THEY COULD ASK FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT AND THEREFORE CAUSE FURTHER IMPACT AND USE MORE OF THOSE CREDITS.

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF JUDGMENT AND EXPERIENCE FOR THAT. I THINK OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT TEAM TRIED TO COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER. I THINK SUFFICE IT TO SAY, WHATEVER THE REAL NUMBER IS, IF THERE IS A REAL ASCERTAINABLE NUMBER, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER, BUT THAT WAS SORT OF THE BEST ESTIMATION THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH. THANK YOU.

>> I APPRECIATE IT. DO WE KNOW HOW ÃHOW WOULD THIS POTENTIALLY IMPACT SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS WE HAVE SUCH AS NOCATEE, SILVERLEAF, BEACH WALK? DO WE KNOW TO THE EXISTING MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS? DO WE KNOW HOW THIS WOULD

IMPACT THAT OR HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO ASSESS DOCUMENT >> I HAVEN'T GONE TO THE NUMBERS FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. AGAIN, I THINK MR. NEWMAN MAY BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THAT BUT I WOULD SAY BESIDES SORT OF MY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER PHRASE, NOCATEE, I KNOW THEY PUT IN SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS AND THEY MAY HAVE A NUMBER OF CREDITS THEY FORESEEABLE MAY HAVE USED SO THAT MAY BE AN EXAMPLE.

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, I COULD PROBABLY GET YOU SOME MORE DETAILED INFO ON THAT.

I DON'T HAVE THAT NOW. IF MR. NEWMAN IS WITH US ON THE PHONE HE MAY BE ABLE TO COMMENT

ON THAT. >> GOOD MORNING. FOR THE CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER BLOCKER'S QUESTION. IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE OPTION THAT ARE DECIDED WHETHER THERE IS ONE, TWO, OR THREE, THEN WE WOULD KNOW MORE AND THAT IT CAN BE EVALUATED THE IMPACT OF IT. FOR EXAMPLE, THE 78 MILLION+. IF THAT'S RETROSPECTIVE, THEN YOU CAN SEE THE IMPACT OF THE THE IMPACT FEES OR IT COULD BE 20 YEARS.

AND EACH OF THE CREDITS WE HAVE CURRENTLY. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL THAT WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WILL PLAY OUT. THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REVENUE WE HAVE THAT COULD BE IMPACTED BY THIS. PATRICK, BACK TO YOU.

ARE THERE CURRENTLY ÃDO YOU KNOW IF THERE ARE BUILT DEVELOPMENTS THAT CAN'T BUILD

ANY MORE HOMES? >> I DO NOT KNOW IF NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

THERE MAY BE SOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE SORT OF BUILD OUT AS TO WHAT YOUR ORIGINAL APPROVAL WAS. I WOULD ALSO SAY AS SORT OF A GENERAL PROPOSITION THAT VIRTUALLY ANY DEVELOPMENT COULD BE ADDED TO OR REDEVELOPED POTENTIALLY CAUSING MORE IMPACTS WHICH WOULD CAUSE THE REQUIREMENT FOR MORE IMPACT FEES, WHICH THEN THE ÃYOU

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SO THERE IS SOME ELEMENT OF THAT. AGAIN, IT MAY BE THAT MR. NEWMAN WOULD KNOW MAYBE ÃMAY BE ABLE TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WHERE SOMETHING IS FILLED OUT AND STILL HAS CREDITS THAT ARE NOT USED UNLESS THEY

POTENTIALLY CAME IN FOR FURTHER APPROVAL. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU FOR COVERING THAT. I THINK THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M NOT SURE HOW WE ARRIVED AT THE ESTIMATE OF 78 MILLION BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE BASED ON SOME OF THE UNKNOWNS HERE IT SHOULD BE MORE THAN THAT

>> IT IS FAIR, COMMISSIONER. IT COULD BE NORTH OF THAT AND SIGNIFICANTLY NORTH OF THAT.

>> UNDERSTOOD. SO HERE IS MY CONCERN AND I WILL SAY THIS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE BOARD AND PATRICK, THIS IS DIRECTED TOWARD YOU. MY CONCERNS ABOUT OPTIONS TO AND THREE AS THIS COULD GET US INVOLVED IN SOME LITIGATION. WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS TODAY SO IT'S HARD TO ASSESS THAT AND I KNOW YOU AND YOUR TEAM WELL.

JUST LOOKING AT THOSE AND PREVIEWING THE MATERIALS IN READING THE STATUTE I THINK THERE'S A HIGH PROBABILITY THAT OPTION TWO OR THREE TENDS TO GET US IN LITIGATION.

IS THAT A FAIR ASSESMENT? >> COMMISSIONER, YES. >> OKAY.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT ANOTHER OPTION IS TO GET AN OPINION FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ON THIS. BEING THAT THERE'S SO MUCH REVENUEIMPACTED ON THIS, IS THERE NOT SOMETHING YOU CONSIDER, GOING DIRECTLY TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND SEE IF WE

CAN GET AN ADVISORY OPINION? >> IF I MAY, WE DID CONSIDER THAT IN TERMS OF SOMETHING TO ADVISE THE BOARD AND PROVIDE AN OPTION FOR THE BOARD, AND, IN FACT, WE HAVE HAD ONE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS DEVELOPMENT ATTORNEYS ALSO DISCUSSED THAT. I CANNOT ADVISE ÃI THINK FOR MANY ISSUES THAT THE COUNTY FACES OVER A VARIETY OF TOPICS, I THINK THAT IS A FAIR THING TO DO, THE COUNTY HAS GONE TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OVER THE YEARS FOR SEVERAL QUESTIONS.

I MYSELF HAVE WRITTEN ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD FOR THOSE. BUT HERE, PARTICULARLY AS TO THE RETROSPECTIVE OR PROSPECTIVE ISSUE, THOSE ARE Ã THOSE ISSUES ARE TIED HAND IN HAND WITH SOME CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES, AND GENERALLY, THE FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL, THEY ARE IN A POSITION WHERE IF A STATUTE IS CHALLENGED ON A CONSTITUTIONAL BASIS, THEY PARTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE STATE IN TRYING TO DEFEND THAT, SOMETIMES SUCCESSFULLY, SOMETIMES ULTIMATELY NOT. BUT IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVE CONSIDERED THAT, AND ALTHOUGH IT IS ALWAYS USEFUL TO FIND SOME MECHANISM OTHER THAN GOING TO LITIGATION, IN THIS INSTANCE I CANNOT ADVISE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION AND FOR THAT REASON WILL BE TOUCHING UNCONSTITUTIONALITY OF A STATUTE AND CONSTITUTIONAL DEFECTS POTENTIALLY AND I DON'T THINK THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WOULD BE IN A POSITION TO YOU, I THINK FAIRLY OR APPROPRIATELY

ANSWER THAT. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK THEY SHOULD TELL US WHETHER THEY CAN OR CAN'T ANSWER THAT. I THINK THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF THAT, AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE THIS UNDER CONTROL.

IS IT BEING CHALLENGED? >> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. IT WENT INTO EFFECT JULY FIRST AND I'M NOT AWARE OF THERE BEING ANY CHALLENGE OF THIS. AND, IN FACT, MY SENSE ON THIS THING, ALTHOUGH THE COUNTY IS NEVER AFRAID OF LITIGATION TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THE COUNTY AND THE TAXPAYER, WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR LITIGATION ON THIS AND, AGAIN, ONE ASPECT OF

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SO I DON'T KNOW THAT LITIGATION WOULD BE A CERTAINTY ON THIS THING, BUT AS YOU HAD ASKED AND I HAD ANSWERED, IT'S CERTAINLY AT LEAST A POSSIBILITY, IF NOT MORE.

THANK YOU >> I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT.

I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS WE WANT TO DEAL WITH THAT AND WHAT'S BEST FOR THE TAXES AND

WHENEVER WE POTENTIALLY CONSIDER ISSUE. >> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE,

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> NO, THANK YOU. >> THERE'S STILL A LOT TO BE LEARNED AS TO WHAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS THE ABILITY TO DO.

I AM FOLLOWING THE CONVERSATION TO KNOW WHAT TO PETITION PARTICIPATION THEY HAVE AND WHAT IMPACT THEY FEEL LIKE THIS WILL HAVE ON THE CREDITS THAT HAVE BEEN ACCUMULATED BASED ON THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND IT MAY NOT BE A CUMBERSOME CONVERSATION BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND A MEETING TO COUNTER THE GROUP TO DISCUSS THESE OPTIONS, THE PROS AND CONS AND THE IMPACT IT HAS THE GREATER COMMUNITY SMEARNA MAKING THESE DECISIONS ON A LEVEL JUST FROM THE GOVERNMENT'S PERSPECTIVE. BUT TO MAKE SOMETHING OBJECTIVE AND BEATABLE NOT JUST NOW BUT GOING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE. OBVIOUSLY ASSUMING LITIGATION AND THAT WE DO UNDERSTAND THE

PLATTERS WITH WHICH TO WORK WITH. >> AND THROUGH THE CHAIR MADE A COMMENT ON COMMISSIONER JOHN SUGGESTION OR RECOMMENDATION? I THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.

THE COUNTY HAS, FROM TIME TO TIME ON DIFFERENT ISSUES BUT INCLUDING ISSUES THAT PERTAIN TO DEVELOPMENT, MET WITH THE COMMUNITY AND INTERESTED PARTIES AND ABOUT THAT.

ÃCAN WE GO BACK TO PARAGRAPH HIM SLIDE NUMBER FOUR. EVEN WITH THIS LANGUAGE, SORT OF THE BOTTOM PART THAT SAYS Ã I READ FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE PARAGRAPH, THAT IS WITHIN AN ADJOINING IMPACT THE ZONING DISTRICT WITHIN THE SAME LOCAL GOVERNMENT JURISDICTION, THAT'S THE COUNTY, AND RECEIVES BENEFITS FROM THE IMPROVEMENT COURT CONTRIBUTION GENERATED THE CREDITS, AS I EARLIER COMMENTED ON, THE MAY BE SORT OF A DIFFICULT ASPECT TO ASCERTAIN IN GENERAL AND THAT IT IS I THINK WITH SOME DIALOGUE ABOUT HOW TO SORT OF HIM AS A PRACTICAL APPLICATION COMES IN, THE PROCESS FOR THAT. SO I DO THINK ÃI THINK HIM AND

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I WOULD THAT THAT WOULD BE A CONSTRUCTIVE STEP TO TAKE. >> YOU READ MY MIND.

IN ORDER TO HAVE A PROCESS THAT IS MANAGEABLE AND EFFECTIVE, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MANAGE THIS AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER PROCESSES ARE PUT IN PLACE FROM THE COMMUNITY WILL ENABLE US TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND WE HAVE GREAT OFTEN WERE PERSPECTIVE IS NEEDED.

PLAINTIFF. QUESTION HIM 163.[INDISCERNIBLE] THERE IS A NOTE NEXT TO IT THAT READS ANOTHER VISIONARY VERSION IS PRINTED AT THE BOTTOM OF THE NOTE READS AS AMENDED BY S.1: SEE PREFERENCE TO THE FLORIDA STATUTE STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION AND IT SAYS SECTION 163.13801 WAS ALSO AMENDED BY S .1, C 2019.06 AND THAT VERSION READS IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME THAT THE LATTER VERSION IS THE ONE THAT IS CORRECT?

>> AND MY QUESTION IS BECAUSE IT REMOVES ÃIF I'M LOOKING AT IT CORRECTLY, SUBSECTIONS FIVE, SIX AND EIGHT FROM THE STATUTE ABOVE, AND I DIDN'T GET TO READ THIS UNTIL LATE LAST NIGHT THAT IS WHAT ÃAND THEN I HAVE A POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IF THAT'S CORRECT.

>> IF YOU GIVE ME A MOMENT I WILL PULL UP. >> I MAY HAVE TO COME BACK TO

THAT ONE >> I APOLOGIZE I GOT THAT LATE AND WENT TO MAKE SURE I'M CORRECT IN MY ASSUMPTION BEFORE I RECEIVED ÃPROCEED SO I WILL REFRAIN FROM THAT.

WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT AND I WILL COME BACK TO THAT IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH THE BOARD. IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THIS POINT FOR STAFF. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 2, PLEASE ADDRESS JOHN MCKENZIE BLOUNT COUNTY CENTER ROAD. CAN I REMOVE THIS? IT'S HARD TO SPEAK IN PERSON

BUT MUCH LESS PUBLICLY. >> AS THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW I'M THE DEVELOPER OR BEACH WALK PAS WELL AS PORTIONS OF TWIN CREEKS AND WE ARE ONE OF THOSE DEVELOPERS WHO ENTERED INTO ONE OF THESE IMPACT FEE AGREEMENTS THAT PATRICK WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.

WE DID NOT GO AND SIGN THE AGREEMENT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO. THE WAY THE IMPACT FEES WERE BASICALLY ENACTED WAS BY THIS SEPARATE DOCUMENT, THIS SEPARATE AGREEMENT.

IT WASN'T BUILT INTO THE IMPACT FEE OR DEVELOPMENT ORDER ITSELF IS HOW THE COUNTY DID IT.

SO WHAT I HEAR PATRICK SAYING Ã IN ESSENCE WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THE COUNTY COULD ENACT SOMETHING BY CONTRACT THAT IT CAN'T CONNECT BY ORDINANCE. I DON'T THINK THAT ARGUMENT IS GOING TO GO VERY FAR. PATRICK ALSO MADE THE DESCRIPTION OF A PROJECT WHERE THEY HAD $10 MILLION OF IMPACTS AND THEY AGREED AND THEIR AGREEMENT TO PAY FOR $50 MILLION WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS. I CAN TELL YOU ANY DEVELOPER FROM ÃYOU VOLUNTARILY AGREE TO

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BUILDING THAT SECTION OF THE ROAD COSTS A LOT MORE THAN $18 MILLION.

WE DON'T GET CREDITS FOR THE ADDITIONAL AND WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE ALL OF THE CREDITS THAT WE HAVE IN CONNECTION WITH THOSE ÃWITHIN THE PHASES THAT WE ARE IN.

AND THEN PATRICK ALSO BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION OF PERSPECTIVE VERSUS RETROSPECTIVE APPLICATION OF A STATUTE. THERE IS A LOT OF LAW DEALING WITH STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION AND ONE OF THEM IS THE COURTS RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN THE ÃNOT APPLY RETROSPECTIVELY, THEY SAY SO. IF YOU WILL LOOK AT THE LAST SECTION OF SUBSECTION 5, IT SAYS, THIS SUBSECTION SHALL OPERATE PROSPECTIVELY AND NOT RETROSPECTIVELY.

SO IF THERE WAS ANY PORTION OF THIS STATUTE THEY INTENDED TO DO NOT RETROSPECTIVELY WHEN THEY DRAFTED IF THEY SAID SO AND THEY DID NOT SAY THAT, DIDN'T HAVE THAT PROVISIONING RETROSPECTIVE APPLICATION WITH REGARD TO THE CREDIT SUPPLYING OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY WHERE

THEY WERE CREATED. THANK YOU. >> I AM TOM INGRAM AND MY ADDRESS IS 233 E. BAY ST., SUITE 113 JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, AND I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I REPRESENT A LOT OF DEVELOPERS IN THE AREA AND WORK ON A LOT OF AGREEMENTS OVER THE YEARS AND IT SEEMS TO ME THE CONCERN MR. MACCORMACK HAS RAISED TODAY IS THAT THE COUNTY, KNOWINGLY ISSUED TENS OF MILLIONS IN IMPACT FEE CREDITS AND DAVIE COUNTY THEY COULD BE USED. SO BY MAKING DEMANDS FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS WE ARE IN EXCESS OF IMPACT FEES YOU END UP WITH THESE IMPACT FEE CREDITS. SO SOME OF THIS IS A FAIRNESS ISSUE SO I ASSUME SOMEBODY APPEALED TO THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE TO TRY TO FIX THAT.

SOME YEARS AGO, THE LEGISLATURE MANDATED THAT IMPACT FEE CREDITS BE AWARDED COUNTY DID BASICALLY HALF THAT. THEY AWARDED CREDITS BUT THEN THEY RESTRICTED WHERE THEY COULD BE USED. AND SO YOU END UP WITH SOME DEVELOPMENTS PAYING VASTLY MORE THAN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS TO ADDRESS THINGS LIKE ROADS OR SCHOOLS.

AND THIS IS AN EFFORT TO ADDRESS THEM. THE COUNTY IS A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE. THE COUNTY IS A NON-CHARTER COUNTY, SO IT HAS SUCH AUTHORITIES AS GRANTED BY THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE UNDER GENERAL LAW AND YOU CANNOT ACT INCONSISTENT UNDER THE FLORIDA HOME RULE OF POWERS ACT, THE COUNTY HAS SUCH POWERS NOT INCONSISTENT WITH GENERAL LAW. SO THE STATE HAS NOW ISSUED A NEW DIRECTIVE TO SAY IMPACT FEE CREDITS ARE ASSIGNABLE AND TRANSFERABLE ANY TIME AFTER ESTABLISHMENT TO THE SAME IMPACT FEES OR ANY ADJOINING IMPACT FEES AND IF I HAVE TIME I WILL GO INTO THE LAST PART Ã THE LAST CLAUSE. THIS IS A MANDATE THAT IS NOT OPTIONAL AND THE USE OF CREDIT IS A SEPARATE ISSUE FROM THE AWARDING OF CREDITS AND THE COUNTY HAS LONG RECOGNIZED THAT FROM THE BEGINNING. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FORM ROAD IMPACT FEE AGREEMENTS, THE COUNTY RECOGNIZES THAT THE CREDITS MIGHT BE USEFUL OUTSIDE OF A PROJECT IF THE COUNTY AGREES. I WOULD TELL YOU AS A MATTER OF PUBLIC POLICY ESTABLISHED BY THE LEGISLATURE, THE ANSWER, IF YOU ARE ASKED, WE WOULD LIKE TO USE THESE CREDITS OUTSIDE OF THIS PRODUCT AND THE ANSWER HAS TO BE YES BECAUSE THIS IS THE PUBLIC POLICY.

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SO I DO THINK IN TERMS OF THE PROSPERITY OF THE COUNTY, IN TERMS OF MAXIMIZING REVENUES AND MAXIMIZING THE BEST POSSIBLE INFRASTRUCTURE, COUNTIES THAT ARE FAIR TO THEIR PROPERTY OWNERS DO BEST FAIR AND PREDICTABLE AND SO THIS IS AN EFFORT TO BE FAIR AND

PREDICTABLE. >> I APOLOGIZE, MR. CHAIRMAN >> TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

>> THANK YOU. ELLEN AVERY SMITH ROGERS TOWERS SAINT AUGUSTINE.

AS YOU KNOW, I REPRESENT SEVERAL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY I APPRECIATE HIS SPIRITED CONVERSATION WITH ME ABOUT THE SUBJECT OVER THE LAST MONTH OR SO. I THINK THAT THE SCENE OF MY COMMENTS IS GOING TO BE YOU CANNOT PICK AND CHOOSE. SO YOU CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH LAWS TO FOLLOW.

YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THIS LAW BECAUSE IT IS THE LAW OF FLORIDA NOW, JUST LIKE YOU FOLLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT LAW THAT REQUIRED MASS DEVELOPERS OF SOME OF THE PAGES ÃBIGGEST PROJECTS CALLED PIPELINING AND WE WON'T GET INTO THE DETAIL OF THAT, BUT THAT'S LITERALLY HOW YOU GOT TO $70 MILLION IN IMPACT FEE CREDITS, MANY OF WHICH WOULD NEVER BE USED BY THESE DEVELOPERS BUT BY THE LAW THAT WAS IN EFFECT AT THAT POINT, THEY AGREED IN DEVELOPMENT ORDERS TO CONSTRUCT VARIOUS ROADS REGARDLESS OF THE COST BECAUSE THAT WAS THE LAW AT THE TIME. WE HAVE A PROPORTIONATE SHARE LAW THAT'S BEEN CHANGED OVER TIME, AND EVERYONE HAS HAD TO ABIDE BY IT BECAUSE IT'S THE LAW. GOING TO MR. MCCORMICK'S OPTIONS WHICH I DO APPRECIATE HIM PROVIDING BUT A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS IN DECIDING WHO GETS TO USE THEIR CREDITS OUTSIDE OF THEIR PROJECT AND WHO DOESN'T.OU CANNOT PICK AND CHOOSE.

ALSO GOING INTO THE ASPECTS OF THE LAW AND THE BENEFITS FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OR CONTRIBUTION THAT GENERATED THE CREDITS. THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE IS IN DEVELOPMENT ORDERS AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT THIS COUNTY HAS BEEN USING FOR YEARS.

IF WE DECIDE AS A COUNTY THAT YOU NEED TO SPEND LESS ACCESS DOLLARS YOU HAVE AGREED TO WITH PIPELINING, WE COULD TO PICK WHICH ROAD IMPROVEMENTS IN THE VICINITY BENEFITS.

IT'S THE SAME NOTION IN THIS LAW. WE WOULD JUST ASK PLEASE FOLLOW THE LAW, BE CONSISTENT. WE ALL NEED TO FOLLOW THE SAME LAWS, AND I THINK THAT PROBABLY OPTION NUMBER ONE IS WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS EQUALLY BENEFITED BY THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT TO COMMISSIONER BLOCKER'S COMMENT EARLIER. A LOT OF THESE ACCESS ROAD IMPACT FEE CREDITS ARE FROM THE BIG PROJECTS LIKE THE SILVERLEAF, THE NOKIA T, TWIN CREEKS AND RIVERTOWN. IT'S NOT JUST THE BIG DEVELOPERS.

THAT HAVE 10 OR $20,000 IN CREDITS BUT MONEY IS MONEY. WE NEED TO TREAT IT EQUALLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME. >> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON

ITEM 29 OH CALL? >> HELLO? >> NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE?

>> GOOD MORNING. ED SLAVIN, BOX 3084. ED SLAVIN.COM.

I WANT TO THANK YOU WHICH I COULDN'T HEAR BECAUSE OF THE INTERNET CONNECTIVITY PROBLEMS. ROBERT KENNEDY USED TO SAY DON'T TELL ME WHAT I SHOULD'VE DONE.

TELL ME WHAT I SHOULD DO NOW. EVERYONE ST. JOHNS COUNTY NEEDS TO FILE FOR A DECLARATORY JUDGMENT AND INJUNCTIVE RELIEF IN LEON COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT LEGISLATURE KEEPS DOING THIS TO US. WE NEED TO REDO AN IMPACT. AND NUMBER THREE TO FIRE OUR

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AND HE'S GOT SO MANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST HE CAN DO WITHOUT OUR $50,000 A YEAR.

LET ME GET BACK TO THE FIRST POINT. WE NEED TO FILE FOR DECLARATORY JUDGMENT AND THEN I GUESS YOUR JURISDICTION WOULD BE IN TALLAHASSEE AND LYON COUNTY TO ASK THE COURT BY BRINGING IN ALL THE DEVELOPERS AND EVERYBODY SUBJECT TO THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE WHAT THE LAW IS AND WHETHER IN RETRO WE NEED TO ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO THE CASE FOR DOING OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO DO IT AND WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, THE THOUSAND FRIENDS IN FLORIDA AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO MIGHT BE ABLE ÃA COPLAINTIFF. TALLAHASSEE KEEPS ON DOING THIS. IMPACT FEES. I HATE TO SAY I TOLD YOU SO, BUT I DID. BACK IN 2018 WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT IMPACT FEES, I SAID THEY WERE TOO LOW IN THE ECONOMIST WHO DID THE STUDY WAS [INDISCERNIBLE] IN THE COUNTY ONLY ANSWERED 1/17 OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS I HAD ABOUT THE GUY THAT WE NEVER DID GET A FAIR HEARING ON THE IMPACT FEES. IN THE DEVELOPERS GOT WHAT THEY WANTED AND THEN THEY WENT TO TALLAHASSEE AND BY VIRTUE OF CORRUPTION AND TALAHASSEE, THEY GOT SB 1066 PASS.

SO ÃBY THE WAY, WE PAY THOMAS MARTIN TARANTINO $50,000 A YEAR HE WAS FIRE BUT WE DON'T NEED SOMEBODY WORKING FOR US IS NOT GOING TO TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON IN TALLAHASSEE AND IS WORKING BEHIND OUR BACK FOR DEVELOPERS. AND MR. MACCORMACK ADMITTED EARLIER WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. IT'S A CARTEL.

AND IT'S ÃAS GENRICH EXPLAINED FOR MANY TIMES OVER HERE AND BUYS POLITICIANS AND LAWYERS AND ANYBODY CAN CALL THEMSELVES A DEVELOPER AND WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

SO LET'S GET ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN THE RIGHT COLUMN. LET'S START PROTECTING THE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF THE CORPORATIONS. THANKS, GENTLEMEN.

>> THANK YOU. >> I GUESS THE LAST CALL. THE MORE PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> I APOLOGIZE. IT'S NOT A COMMENT. JUST A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.

EMANCIPATION FROM THIS MORNING, I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND. >> IF YOU WOULD, FOR THE

RECORD, RESTATE YOUR NAME >> ALLEN WITH STEIN 135 TREE SADLY.

JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HER DESIRE COMING UP ON THIS AGENDA OR IS THAT DONE FOR THE DAY?

>> THAT WILL BE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX >> SO THAT'S ÃIT WILL BE AFTER

LUNCH >> WHENEVER >> THANK YOU FOR THE

CLARIFICATION. >> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? >>

>> BJ KALAIDI CITY LIMITS OF ST. AUGUSTINE. SHOULDN'T BE MOVING THESE THINGS BECAUSE THERE'S A REASON THEY ARE THERE. THIS HAS BEEN VERY ADDRESSING, VERY INTERESTING. I THINK IT SHOULD BE NUMBER THREE, OPTION THREE.

RETROSPECTIVE APPLICATION. IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING WHEN WE AS RESIDENTS COME IN AND WE LISTEN TO ALL OF THE DEVELOPERS AND THEN WE DISCUSSED ALL OF THIS STUFF, AND THEN WE ARE STUCK. AND THERE WILL BE LAWSUITS. I DON'T KNOW WHO STARTED THIS WITH THE LEGISLATURE BUT IT IS PROBABLY THE DEVELOPERS AND WE AS RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE THE TIME AND THE MONEY TO REALLY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. WE TRY OUR BEST.

BESIDES DEVELOPERS AND/OR THEIR LAWYERS, HAVE RESIDENTS SPOKEN WITH ANY COUNTY STAFF? I BELIEVE MR. MACCORMACK MENTIONED IN ALL THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT HE HAS TALKED WITH DEVELOPERS, PROBABLY ONE THAT WAS UP HERE. AND I DO APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AFTER ALL OF THE CALLS HAVE COME IN BECAUSE THEY REBUT A LOT OF WHAT WE SAY AND WE LIKE TO REBUT THEM. AND THAT'S ONE REASON I HAVE ASKED THAT WE BE THE LAST ONES TO SPEAK. WE NEED TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS, AND I LIKE THE IDEA WHERE IF YOU ARE GOING TO DECIDE TODAY THAT YOU DECIDE 3 TO 2 AND NOT ÃMORE INFORMATION BE GATHERED AND ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS AND SOME OF YOUR

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OR WILL HEAR ABOUT THROUGH EDS AND UNDERSTAND ÃI HATE TO SAY THIS DEVELOPERS DON'T HAVE OUR BEST. YOU LOOK AT THE 12, THE CONDOS, TO ME THEY ARE TENEMENTS THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING INROADS IN THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A MOBILITY PLAN, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY IMPACT FEES. THERE IS ALWAYS AN ARGUMENT ABOUT IT IN THE COUNTY SAID WATCH OUT WITH THIS MONEY BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ÃWE'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF THE COUNTY ROADS AND YOU KNOW THERE'S A DEFICIT THERE. THIS IS MANEUVERING AND WE AS THE RESIDENTS NEED TO HAVE ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS ON BOARD AND EXPLAINING TO US WHAT WE ARE GOING TO LOSE AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO GAIN, AND IF WE HAVE GOOD COURT ÃWE HAVE TO GO TO COURT BECAUSE THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST WITH SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS TOO.

YOU MAY LOSE THEM A LOT BUT AT LEAST WE'RE TRYING TO WATCH OUT FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

THANK LOST] >> TWO DIFFERENT BILLS AND MY SENSE IS ON THE 2020 IT WILL COME OUT AS A UNIFIED ONE AND ESPECIALLY THAT PARAGRAPH EIGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

MY QUESTION THEY ARE NINE SUBSECTIONS IN THE FIRST SO IT WAS REMOVED?

>> MR. CHAIR, I THINK THE REASON WHY YOU SEE BOTH OF THOSE DISPLAYED ON THE WEBSITE AND WITH THAT NOTE THAT SHOWS THE ENTIRETY OF THAT OTHER BILL IS BECAUSE THERE IS A STATUTORY THING WHERE IF IT'S BEEN AMENDED TWICE IN THE SAME SESSION THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE ÃTHE CHANGES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE READ TOGETHER AND UNLESS THERE IS A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE TWO AND TO DISPLAY BOTH OF THOSE SO I CAN BE DETERMINED LATER IF THERE IS A NEED TO BE ACCOMPLISHED OR DETERMINED TO BE ACCOMPLISH IN OBSERVATION OF THEM BOTH SINCE THEY ARE BOTH CHANGED IN THE SAME SESSION. WITH THE CHANGE IN 2020 AND IN SUBSECTION 8 WOULD BE EFFECTIVE ÃTHERE'S NOT A CONFLICT HERE HASN'T BEEN CHANGED AGAIN IN THE SAME SESSION

>> I APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION. THAT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND.

SUBSECTION 5 IS MENTIONED BY MR. KINSEY AS WELL. BUT IN LOOKING AT MYSELF, THIS SUBJECT SHALL OFFER OPERATE PERSPECTIVE AND NOT RETROSPECTIVELY AND THERE WAS

LANGUAGE THAT WAS NOT CHOSEN TO BE IN SUBSECTION A >> THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT.

I UNDERSTAND MR. KINSEY PAST MY POINT. THE GENERAL RULE IN A STATUTE OF THIS NATURE IS THAT IT WILL NOT APPLY RETROSPECTIVELY UNLESS THE LEGISLATURE EXPRESSED INTENT THAT IT WOULD DO SO. SO THE GENERAL RULE IS NOT THAT THEY NEED TO SAY THAT IT APPLIES PROSPECTIVELY IN ORDER FOR IT TO DO SO BUT INSTEAD IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND. THEY WOULD NEED TO EXPRESS AN INTENT ÃAND I'M SPEAKING SORT OF GENERALLY. THE GENERAL RULE WOULD BE THE NEED TO EXPRESS INTENT FOR IT TO APPLY RETROSPECTIVELY UNLESS IT'S FOUND TO BE A REMEDIAL STATUTE ATTEMPTING TO ADDRESS Ã REDRESS AND GRIEVANCE THIS IS A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE TO GRANTING ADDITIONAL RIGHTS AND OUR VIEW WOULD BE THAT IT WOULD BE READ NOT TO APPLY RETROSPECTIVELY TO EXISTING CREDITS OR AGREEMENTS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> PATRICK, BEFORE THIS BECAME EFFECTIVE JULY 1, DO YOU KNOW OR DOES FONG KNOW WHAT THE PAST PRACTICE HAS BEEN REGARDING

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CERTAIN CRITERIA WHICH ARE NOT TOTALLY >> THE COUNTY WILL CONSIDER THINGS LIKE PATRICK SAID LIKE THE THINGS BETWEEN TRANSFER DEVELOPMENT AND THE BENEFITS.

WITH THAT IN MIND FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, UP UNTIL JULY 1 GOING BACK ÃI DON'T KNOW HOW EARLY. HAVE WE ACTUALLY APPROVED TRANSFER OF MITIGATION CREDITS

UNDER THAT PROVISION? >> THERE HAVE BEEN SOME EXAMPLES AND THERE HAVE NOT

BEEN MANY EXAMPLES BUT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME >> SO WE HAVE DONE IT?

>> FROM MY BRIEFING WITH OUR STAFF, I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT IT HAS BEEN DONE BUT IT

HAS NOT BEEN DONE OFTEN. IT'S BEEN DONE A FEW TIMES >> THE COMMENT WAS MADE EARLIER ABOUT ONE OF MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS AND I WILL FOLLOW UP. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION AS TO HOW MANY FALL UNDER THIS UMBRELLA STATE Ã MITIGATION CREDITS IN THE PAST.

WHAT IS THE CURRENT BALANCE SHEET, IF YOU WILL OF THOSE CURRENT PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND WHAT IMPACT, WHAT FISCAL IMPACT IT MAY HAVE ON THE COUNTY.

THAT'S THE KIND OF INFORMATION I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL AND I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER JOHNSON ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING A COMMUNITY WORKSHOP MORE INFORMATION AS A GENERAL RULE. I FEEL STRONGLY THAT A PROMISE MADE IS A PROMISE KEPT AND I AM LOOKING FOR WHERE THIS COUNTY IN THE PAST HAS MADE COMMITMENTS OR AGREEMENTS WITH ÃI DON'T CARE IF IT'S ONE HOME WORK 5000 HOMES, IT'S ARM SLEEVE LENGTH TRANSACTION, IF WE'VE MADE A COMMITMENT I TEND TO WANT TO KEEP THAT COMMITMENT BUT I AM STILL STRUGGLING WITH EXACTLY WHAT COMMITMENTS WERE MADE AT WHAT POINT IN TIME WITH TWO.

IT WOULD HELPED ME IN THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

AND SO WITH SORT OF A ÃAN OBSERVATION AND MY YEARS IN GOVERNMENT, I ALWAYS FELT LIKE GOVERNMENT HAS TO BE FAIR AND REASONABLE AND KEEP PROMISES. I THINK BACK TO THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE HAD ABOUT SUMMER HAVEN AND I SAY, IT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN THE BEST DECISION TO ACCEPT THAT PROPERTY FROM DOT BUT WE AS A COUNTY DID, AND I THINK UNDER THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WE ARE ABIDING BY THAT AGREEMENT. MAYBE SOMEWHAT RELUCTANTLY BUT WE ARE PROVIDING ACCESS. I SORT OF FEEL THE SAME CASE HERE BUT IT WOULD HELPED ME TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS PROMISED OR NOT PROMISED BY PAST ADMINISTRATIONS IF THAT CAN BE ASCERTAINED TO HELP US GO FORWARD BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG ISSUE. THIS IS PRIMARILY WHY ON JUNE 23 WHEN YOU WERE GIVING US AN INFORMATIONAL CLOSING THAT YOU WERE ABOUT TO SEND A LETTER OUT AND IF YOU REMEMBER I THOUGHT I

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I THINK THIS IS A GOOD START BUT I THINK ALL OF US HAVE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN GETTING MORE INFORMATION AND MAY BE A WORKSHOP. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I AM

TODAY. >> SURE. IF I MAY THROUGH THE CHAIR, IN TERMS OF A DESCRIPTION OF PAST BOARDS AND PROMISES MADE, ETC., OBVIOUSLY, TO MY MIND, KIND OF THE BEST DOCUMENT OR EVIDENCE IF THAT IS THE ACTUAL IMPACT FEE AGREEMENTS AND WHEN I SAY THAT IMPACT FEE CREDIT AGREEMENTS, THERE ARE SOMETIMES OTHER NAMES FOR THOSE AGREEMENTS, BUT THEY GO TO WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE MADE, WHAT CREDIT WILL BE GIVEN FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, THOSE TYPES OF AGREEMENTS. IS THERE SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THOSE YOU WOULD BE LOOKING FOR OR I COULD GET OFF-LINE WITH YOU AFTER THE MEETING

>> THAT WOULD BE A GOOD START. I THINK WE CAN FOLLOW UP AFTER THAT BUT THAT IS A GOOD START.

I HAVEN'T PUT MY HANDS AROUND AN ACTUAL QUOTE AGREEMENT THAT SHOWS, I GUESS, RECOGNITION BY THE COUNTY THAT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER IS DOING MORE THAN ASKED AND THAT THEY AT SOME POINT MAY ASKE TO TRANSFER EXCESS MITIGATION CREDITS TO A THIRD PARTY.

I MEAN, THAT'S SORT OF INSIDE GOVERNMENT I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT, STUDIED FOR UNDERSTAND

WHICH IS WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTIONS THIS MORNING >> AND MR. CHAIR, MAY I TAKE THIS MOMENT, WE HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT AND IT WAS POINTED OUT SORT OF HAVING THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY MADE AWARE OF THIS, WHICH WE DID. WE ALSO, I THINK UPON THE VERY HELPFUL SUGGESTION OF A COUNTY COMMISSIONER HAD REACHED TO THOUSAND FRIENDS OF FLORIDA AND SORT OF POTENTIALLY A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT OF THIS ISSUE AND COMMENTS SO I JUST WANTED TO

STATE ON THE RECORD THAT WE DID DO THAT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER BLOCKER I KNOW YOU HAD THE DESIRE EARLIER.

>> YES, SIR. JUST ONE MORE COMMENT, IF I COULD.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THE COUNTY HAS GOTTEN THE FULL VALUE OF THIS IMPROVEMENT ONLY GAVE THOSE CREDITS. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN TECHNICALLY LOSE THE 78 MILLION BECAUSE ONCE THOSE WERE GIVEN OUT WE DID GET THE VALUE.

HOPEFULLY THAT'S TRUE AND WE WERE NOT ENGAGING IN THINGS THAT WERE NOT BRINGING VALUE BACK TO OUR CITIZENS, BUT I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND A LOT OF INFORMATION WE NEED TO GATHER. I THINK OUR STAFF CAN PROVIDE THAT AND GET THAT TO US. I HAD A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND COMMISSIONER JOHNS AND DEAN AND YOURSELF, HOWEVER, I THINK THAT I MAKE A MOTION THAT THAT LETTER BE DRAFTED FROM YOU AND WE ASKED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WHETHER THIS STATUE IS VIEWED PROSPECTIVELY OR RETROACTIVELY.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP US FACTOR AND I THINK WE CAN STILL GATHER THIS OTHER INFORMATION, CLICK THIS ANSWERS AND AT THE SAME TIME ESTABLISH THAT BECAUSE MY FOXHOLE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CRUX OF THIS IS HOW THIS IS PERCEIVED. I UNDERSTAND PATRICK HAS BROUGHT UP SEVERAL ISSUES. HOWEVER THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS DOING THIS ÃCAPABLE OF DOING THIS. I THINK IT WILL BE AN INTEREST OF OUR CITIZENS TO GET AN ANSWER TO THAT SOONER THAN LATER. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT A LETTER BE DRAFTED AND ASKED THE PERTINENT LEGAL QUESTION TO THE ATTORNEY

GENERAL. >> SECOND >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THAT LETTER WOULD BE DRAFTED TO SPECIFICALLY ASK IN REGARD TO BE PERSPECTIVE WERE

RETROACTIVE. >> THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. >> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, TRADITIONALLY, WHEN THE COUNTY HAS REQUESTED AN ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION, I THINK SOMETIMES IT'S GONE OUT UNDER THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S SIGNATURE. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S HAPPENED ALL OF THE TIME. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INPUT TO A LETTER SHOULD A LETTER BE SENT. . JUST STATING THAT

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?

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>>> DOES THAT CLARIFY YOUR CONCERNS?

>> YES, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE'LL PROCEED WITH A ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNS. >> YES, I WILLABLE A YES AS WELL. ANY OTHER DIRECTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE? I KNOW COMMISSIONER DEAN, YOU'VE BEEN VERY POINTED. WOULD YOU LIKE CONSENSUS IN REGARD TO THE WORKSHOP OR OTHER DIRECTIVES?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO CRITICAL PATH THIS AND SORT OF LOOK AT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I RAISED JUST ABOUT PAST PRACTICES OF THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. BECAUSE I TEND TO PUT SOME WEIGHT ON ANY COMMITMENTS OR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS OR PROMISES, WRITTEN PROMISES, THAT PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS MADE. THAT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON ME WHEN I MAKE FURTHER DECISIONS.

>> PUT A WHITE PAPER ON THAT MEETING.

>> YEAH. >> ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER

JOHNS? >> MR. CHAIR?

>> YES. >> THIS IS -- YES, THIS IS FONG LING, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, IF I COULD, TO MAKE CLARIFICATION DURING MR. MCCORMACK'S --

>> PLEASE, GO AHEAD. >> YES, WHEN MR. MCCORMACK REFERRED TO OPTION 5 BASICALLY TO LOOK AT, REVISIT THE PEAK SCHEDULE AND HE MENTIONED THAT THE COUNTY'S CURRENTLY PROVIDING SUBSIDY, THAT IS FOR SUBSIDY FOR NONRESIDENTIAL, NOT RESIDENTIAL.

CURRENTLY WE PROVIDED SUBSIDY FOR 40% REDUCTION FROM THE RECOMMENDED -- FROM DR. NICHOLAS IN 2018. WE STARTED TO PROVIDE THAT 40% SUBSIDY SINCE 2019 UNTIL NOW SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION, CLARIFICATION THERE. AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF IT I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION RELATING TO THE 78 MILLION. THE 78 MILLION REPRESENTS STAFF PROJECTED IMPACTING CREDIT EXCESS. THAT'S NOT RECURRING IMPACT CREDIT ON OUR BOOKS. THE CURRENT CREDIT ON OUR BOOKS FOR TRANSPORTATION ROLL IMPACTING CREDIT IS APPROXIMATELY $300 MILLION. AND WE PROJECT THAT BY -- THAT PROJECT WILL BE ABLE TO USE THOSE CREDITS IN OTHER WORDS, TO PAY FOR THE ROLL IMPACT FEES TIED TO THAT DEVELOPMENT. SO WITH THAT INFORMATION, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE, UNDER TODAY'S LAW, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ASSIGN OR TRANSFER THEIR EXISTING CREDIT AT ANY TIME IF THEY WISH TO, NOT JUST THE 78 MILLION BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT CLOSE TO $300 MILLION.

>> MR. CHAIR. IF I MAY COMMENT. AS I UNDERSTAND MR. FONG'S COMMENTS, THE FIRST PART IS FOR THE IMPACT FEE SCHEDULE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL. THE RESIDENTIAL CURRENTLY I THINK THEY PAY IMPACT FEE RATE AS DETERMINED BY THE COUNTY STUDY. FOR THE NONRESIDENTIAL, THEY -- I BELIEVE THEY PAY 40% DISCOUNT THEN THE COUNTY MAKES UP THE DIFFERENCE TO PROMOTE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THERE. ON THE SECOND PART, WHAT MR.-- WHAT MR. WIN BROUGHT UP, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD POINT, IS THAT THE 78 MILLION PLUS, AGAIN, THAT WAS SORT OF ARRIVED AT AS A FIGURE THAT DEVELOPMENTS, AT LEAST UNDER CURRENT APPROVALS, PROBABLE WOULD NOT USE ABOUT WHAT MR. WIN SAID ADDITIONALLY, I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE. IF THERE WAS A PROJECT THAT HAD $100 MILLION IN IMPACTS, THEY PROVIDED $100 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS, SO THEY GOT $100 MILLION IN IMPACT FEE CREDITS EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE

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>> WE CLOSED PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE,

COMMISSIONER JOHNS? >> JUST WHEN -- I WANTED TO GET SOME IDEA OF WHEN THE APPROPRIATE TIME WOULD BE FOR COMMITTEE INVOLVEMENT. I THINK WE'RE GOING THAT DIRECTION. JUST

NEED SPECIFICITY. >> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT ONE STEP AT A TIME. WE'LL PROCEED WITH A LETTER TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, LIKEWISE WITH THE WHITE PAPER ON THIS, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH THE BOARD. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, WOULD YOU

AGREE? >> I JUST WANT TO -- POINT OF ORDER. MAYBE I DIDN'T STATE THIS CLEARLY IN MY MOTION. BUT THE QUESTION FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WOULD BE TO SECTION 8 OF THE WITH STATUTE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SECTION 8 OF THE

STATUTE. >> SUBSECTION 8 IN REGARD TO

PROSPECT, RETROSPECTIVELY. >> YES.

>> I THINK THAT'S VERY CLEAR. >> ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK WE HAVE DIRECTION AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. WE'LL MOVE ALONG TO -- IT'S 12:00 BUT I'M GOING TO PROCEED UNLESS SOMEBODY REALLY WANTS, LOUDLY. ALL RIGHT, NUMBE. MR. SEAR, MR. KENT.

[3. Public Hearing * LDC Amendment - Article VI "Roadway Design". ]

>> I'M ALONE TODAY. MY COWORKER IS UNDER THE WEATHER. AGAIN, DUANE KENT, PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING. I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE. I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A ROADWAY DESIGN STANDARD CHANGE FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THAT DESIGN CHANGE OR STANDARD CHANGE IS RELATED TO THE CLEARANCE BETWEEN SEASONAL HSEASONAL HIGH GROUNDWI HAVE A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT IT MEANS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO MOVE FORWARD. THE CHANGE WE WERE PROPOSING IS TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 6047 REGARDING DESIGN OF LOCAL ROADWAYS, SPECIFICALLY THE SEPARATION BETWEEN ROADWAY ELEMENTS AND SEASONAL HIGH GROUNDWATER. CURRENT STANDARDS ARE PROTECTIVE OF THE COUNTY ROADWAYS BUT COULD BE VIEWED AS A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL. THESE CHANGES MAY REDUCE THE FILL NECESSARY FOR SUBDIVISION, REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TREES REMOVED AND POTENTIALLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TRUCK TRIPS AS FILL MATERIALS ARE BROUGHT IN FOR ROADWAYS AND SUBDIVISION. I'LL GO THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK. THAT DIFFERENCE, THAT CLEARANCE BETWEEN SEASONAL HIGH GROUNDWATER IS BETWEEN THE ROADWAY STABILIZE SUB RATE AND WHERE THE WATER TABLE IS. JUST REAL QUICKLY, OUR ROADS TYPICALLY, YOU'LL DRIVE DOWN THE ROADS -- EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF THE ASPHALT SURFACE BUT BELOW THAT ASPHALT SURFACE IS THE ROADWAY BASE THAT PROVIDES STRENGTH FOR THAT ROADWAY. TYPICALLY IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY IT'S LIME ROCK. BELOW THAT IS A STABILIZED SOIL OR STABILIZE THE SUB GRADE. ALL THAT ROADWAY IS BUILT ON EXISTING SOIL.

SOMEWHERE IN THE MATRIX IS THE GROUNDWATER SO WE'RE TRYING TO DEFINE WHERE THE GROUNDWATER IS ALLOWED TO BE FOR OUR DESIGNS FOR ROADWAYS. I WANT TO LOOK AT HOW WE COMPARE TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE AREA. ST. JOHNS COUNTY STANDARDS REQUIRE A 12-INCH SEPARATION BETWEEN THE STABILIZED SUB GRADE AND SEASONAL HIGH GROUNDWATER. CLAY COUNTY IT'S 6 INCHES. IN THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, THE CLEARANCE THEY ALLOW THE HIGH GROUNDWATER TO COME UP TO THE STABILIZED SUBGRADE. HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE DOT DESIGN? THE DOT ALLOWS THE GROUNDWATER, SEASONAL HIGH GROUNDWATER TO COME TO WITHIN 36 INCHES OF THE

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JOHNS COUNTY STANDARD IN UNIQUE CONDITIONS. THIS DOESN'T -- THIS MODIFICATIONS OR THE DOT METHODOLOGY LOOKS AT THE SOIL TYPES AND WHETHER OR NOT THOSE SOIL TYPES WOULD ALLOW THIS TYPE OF DESIGN EFFORT. SO PROMOTES INNOVATION WITHIN PROVEN BOUNDARIES AND POTENTIAL TO SAVE TREES, REDUCE TRUCK TRAFFIC AND FILL REQUIREMENTS COULD BE REDUCED. I WON'T READ ALL -- WELL, I'LL READ A LITTLE BIT OF THIS. CURRENTLY, SIMPLY OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SAYS THE BOTTOM OF THE STABILIZED SUB GRADE SHALL BE A MINIMUM OF ONE FOOT ABOVE THE SEASONAL HIGH GROUNDWATER AS IDENTIFIED BY A ENGINEER OR REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL. BE PROPOSE TO ADD ANOTHER LINE, ALT ACTIVELY, LOCAL ROADS WITH LESS THAN 2,000 AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS COULD BE DESIGNED BY A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 522 OF THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. I BELIEVE IT SHOULD SAY 2020 FLEXIBLE DESIGN MANUAL. THAT IS THE PROPOSAL. WE HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF OR THIS HAS BEEN -- THERE HAS BEEN A PUBLIC HEARING DONE IN FRONT OF THE OF PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY EARLIER THIS MONTH. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ON THE TERM REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL BUT IT WAS ULTIMATELY APPROVED 6-1. SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

COMMISSIONER JOHNS. >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION. ASSUMING THIS IS APPROVED, WOULD IT BE RETROACTIVE FOR PREVIOUS APPROVED PROJECTS NOT YET CONSTRUCTED.

>> THAT HAS NOT BEEN CONSIDERED. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BRINGING

IT UP BEFORE TODAY. >> PREVIOUSLY DESIGNED AND BUILT, I THINK YOU'RE STUCK WITH WHERE YOU ARE.

>> RIGHT. >> PERMITTED BUT NOT YET

CONSTRUCTED WAS THE QUESTION. >> THERE COULD BE POTENTIAL FOR THE DESIGN ENGINEER TO GO BACK AND REDESIGN THE ROADWAY

SECTIONS. >> I THINK YOU HAVE HELP COMING.

ONLY BECAUSE OF THE LENGTHY DISCUSSION ABOUT PROSPECTIVE AND

RETROSPECTIVELY. >> SO IT WOULD NOT BE RETROACTIVE SO ANYONE WOULD NEED TO SUBMIT A MODIFICATIONS TO MEET THE CURRENT STANDARD

>> IS THERE A PROCESS TO MAKE THAT A MINOR, INSIGNIFICANT

MODIFICATIONS? >> IT'S A STANDARD APPLICATION -- IT'S A QUICK TURN AROUND TIME APPLICATION THAT'S

CURRENTLY NOT COMPLETED. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU, MR. KENT?

>> SEEING NONE, MR. DEAN WILL PROVIDE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> OKAY. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 3 FROM THE PUBLIC IN THE AUDIENCE? HOW ABOUT ON THE PHONE? ITEM 3? NONE, NO PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> NOW CLOSED, BACK TO THE

BOARD, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ENACT

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CONSISTENT WITH FLORIDA LAW. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION BACK TO MR. JOHNS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DEAN.

ANY SUGGESTION? SEEING NONE. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> YES, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS.

>> YES, SIR. >> I'M A QUESTION AS WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 4. MR. RHINE.

[4. St. Johns County's 200th Anniversary Celebration. ]

>> I'M MICHAEL RYAN, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS, IT'S WORTH NOTING TODAY IS SYSTEMATIC 109TH ANNIVERSARY AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS A POTENTIAL CELEBRATION THAT WILL OCCUR A YEAR FROM NOW. THE BOARD MAY REMEMBER THAT STAFF PRESENTED SEVERAL OPTIONS TO THE BOARD ON HOW TO RECOGNIZE THE ANNIVERSARY IN MARCH. WE PRESENTED FIVE OPTIONS. THE BOARD CHOSE A COMBINATION OF TWO OPTIONS, ONE BEING A RECOGNITION CEREMONY AND THEN THREE, A BRANDING CAMPAIGN. THE BOARD ALSO AT THAT TIME MADE ADDITIONAL REQUESTS OR SUGGESTIONS REGARDING A PROCLAMATION AND DEDICATED LOGO, PART OF THE BRANDING CAMPAIGN AND EDUCATION COMPONENT THE BOARD REQUESTED. TODAY WE'RE HERE TO BRING BACK THAT PROPOSED COMBINATION. IT WILL CONTAIN THE BRANDING CAMPAIGN AND RECOGNITION CEREMONY. I'LL GET DEEPER INTO THE LIST IN A SECOND. THE FIRST HALF, A BRANDING CAMPAIGN. OUR CURRENT PROPOSAL IS THAT WOULD BEGIN IN JANUARY OF 21 AND CONTINUE THROUGH THE ENTIRE YEAR. THERE'S A BASIC LIST OF COMPONENTS THAT ARE NO COST OR LOW-COST TO THE COUNTY. WE WOULD DESIGN A COMMEMORATIVE LOGO, MISSION STATEMENT AND SLOGAN, A DEDICATED WEBSITE. WE ANTICIPATE AGENCIES NAL AND HISTORIC INFORMATION ON THAT RELEVANT TO THE ANNIVERSARY, A VIDEO. YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE DO. WE INCORPORATE THE BRANDING INTO THE CAUGHT'S COMMUNICATIONS AND IT WOULD RUN THE ENTIRE YEAR.

THE SECOND HALF OF THE BOARD REQUEST WAS A RECOGNITION CEREMONY. OUR PROPOSAL IS THAT THAT WOULD BE BASICALLY TWO HALF DAYS. THE DAY BEFORE THE ANNIVERSARY, A YEAR FROM NOW, WILL BE THE BOARD MEETING. OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE DURING THAT MEETING WE HAVE HAVE A BREAKFAST SESSION WITH A ART AND PUBLIC SPACES PROGRAM I'LL TOUCH BASE ON IN A SECOND, POTENTIALLY MUSIC, THE BOARD HAS HAD THAT IN THE PAST A BASIC PROM MITIGATION. WE'RE LOOKING AT A LIST OF HONORED GUESTS WE WOULD BRING BEFORE THE BOARD TO PRESENT THE PROCLAMATION TO AND THEN THE NEXT DAY WOULD BE THE -- WHAT THE BOARD REQUESTED IS PART OF AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT, SPEAKERS FROM UNIVERSITIES AND HISTORICAL SOCIETIES THAT COULD COME IN TO POTENTIALLY THIS BUILDING AND DO PRESENTATIONS REGARDING THE HISTORY AND ANNIVERSARY. THAT WOULD END WITH A TIME CAPSULE CEREMONY LOCATED ON A COUNTY FACILITY OR SITE, TO BE DETERMINED. WE'RE FOCUSING ON THIS BUILD AT THIS TIME OR THIS PROPERTY, THIS COMPLEX. WE COULD BURY IT OR LOOK AT SOME WAY TO HAVE IT IN A CASE WHERE IT COULD BE VIEWED. MERCEDES IS HERE TO -- MERCEDES IS STILL HERE. HERE TO TALK ABOUT ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT TIME CAPSULES AND WHAT THAT ENCOMPASSES. THAT'S NOT MY EXPERTISE BUT WE WOULD END WITH A CEREMONY AND LUNCH PROCESSION.

THE TWO HALF DAY CEREMONIES. WE ARE ALSO -- WE HAVE A RUNNING LIST OF ADDITIONAL CONCEPTS THAT WOULD INCORPORATE THE COMMUNITY.

WE WOULD TALK TO MAYBE PARKS AND REC FO FOR A HUNT, A PET DRIVE O ADOPT 200 PETS. WE HAVE HAD INTEREST FROM LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, THE BCB AND CHAMBER AND THE CULTURAL COUNCIL IN PARTICULAR, WE HAVE HAD VERY PRELIMINARY MEETINGS WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO SOME SORT OF ART IN PUBLIC SPACES EXHIBIT THAT WOULD COINCIDE WITH OUR REGULAR EXHIBITS THAT WOULD WORK FOR THE 200EDTH, THEY HAVE VERY GOOD IDEAS. WE'RE WAITING FOR THEM TO FLUSH THOSE OUT. WE COULD WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO DO TOURS, BACK IN THE 200S AND THE HISTORY. WE

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THERE'S ANOTHER MOTION FOR THE BOARD TO AMEND THAT AT ANY TIME IF THE BOARD HAS OTHER REQUESTS FOR US TO INCORPORATE OR REMOVE FROM THE PROPOSAL. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. RYAN? SEEING NONE, WE'LL PROCEED TO

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 4.

ITEM 4? ANY PHONE CALLS? >> HELLO?

>> YES. >> YES, TOM REYNOLDS, 50 BRIG DEAN COURT, ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH. COMMISSIONERS I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW BORING THIS IS. THIS IS A HUGE EVENT. THE 200TH, I CANNOT BELIEVE IT. THIS IS HUGE. I'M LISTENING TO THIS AND THINKING WHAT IS WRONG HERE. FIRST OF ALL, COMMISSIONERS, WE NEED TO CELEBRATE THE 20 200TH WITH 200 BANDS. THIS NEEDS TO BE A TWO OR THREE WEEK FESTIVAL. I'M TALKING ABOUT ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, WOODSTOCK, '69, 1982, THE FESTIVAL. THIS IS A CHANCE FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO GO REALLY BIG. I GOT TO TELL YOU, $15,000? COME ON, I HAVE HAD BAR TABS IN THE 90S BIGGER THAN THAT FOR ONE NIGHT. WE NEED TO GIVE THIS COMMITTEE LIKE 250,000, ONE YEAR, 200 YEARS. OH MY GOD, I FEEL SO BLESSED TO BE HERE. I GOT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING, GO BIG, BIG, BIG, GET SOME MONEY, 200 BANDS, COUNTRY WESTERN, ROCK 'N' ROLL. WE HAVE SOMETHING FOR EVERY AGE GROUP, NO RAP. ANYWAY, COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS HUGE. I GOT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING, I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH A BORING AGENDA IN MY LIFE. COMMISSIONERS, PUMP UP THE MONEY, PUMP UP THE THINKING, PEOPLE ARE IN LOCKDOWN. ONE YEAR FROM TODAY, THIS COULD BE THE BIGGEST CELEBRATION IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND YOU COULD BE THE COMMISSIONERS OF THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COMMENT? PHONE? HELLO? THEY CAN'T CONCLUDES THE PHONE CALLS SO B.J.?

>> B.J. -- WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH MONEY. OKAY? I LIKE THE IDEA THAT MR. RYAN SAID THAT YOU GET MONEY FROM OTHER PLACES BESIDES -- GRANT MONEY, WHATEVER IS AVAILABLE. INSTEAD OF TAKING IT OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND. CELEBRATING IS GREAT IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO DO IT AND WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THIS TOO BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING TO BE A YEAR FROM NOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE VIRUS. SO WE COULD GIVE OUT MASKS, MAYBE, AS A CELEBRATION. BUT SERIOUSLY, GOD BLESS MR. REYNOLDS BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY FOR A BIG SHINDIG, I DON'T THINK. IF WE DID, THAT WOULD BE FINE. BUT I THINK THERE'S MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TOOK USING OUR

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$15,000. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. FURTHER PUBLIC

COMMENT? >> YES, GO AHEAD.

>> ED SLAYVIN, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MR. REYNOLDS AND THE GREAT AMERICAN ARCHITECT, UNION STATION, DANIEL BURNHAM SAID MAKE NO LITTLE PLANS BECAUSE THEY DON'T BRING PEOPLE TO CARRY THEM OUT. THIS NEEDS TO BE A BIG EVENT AND IT NEEDS TO BE THE CULTURALLY DIVERSE EVENT. WE NEED TO CELEBRATE ALL THE HISTORY OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THE GOOD, BAD AND UGLY AND TELL THE TRUTH, WHICH OUGHT TO BE THE SAYING ANYTHING WE DO IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, INCLUDING THE ST. AUGUSTINE NATIONAL HISTORICAL PARK AND NATURAL SEASHORE WHICH I HOPE IN THE COMING YEAR, THE COMMISSION WILL ENDORSE BUT I AGREE WITH MR. REYNOLDS, LET'S SEND THAT BACK TO THE DRAWING BORING. MR. RYAN IS A HOLD OVER FROM MR. WANNACHECK, NOT ENTUESDAYASTIC ABOUT HIS JOB OR OPEN RECORDS. CAN YOU GIVE HIM OTHER DUTIES, PERHAPS MORE SUITED TO HIS CAPABILITIES BECAUSE HE BLEW IT ON THIS ONE.

I AGREE WITH MR. REYNOLDS, THIS IS A DULL PRESENTATION AND REFLECTS MINIMAL WORK AND CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS. THANK

YOU, GENTLEMEN. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER? THAT'S IT. RIGHT? OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 4.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED, BACK TO THE BOARD, I'LL

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I WILL --

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNS. >> GO AHEAD, JIMMY.

>> MAKE IT FOUR MONTHS TO MAKE IT A PERSPECTIVE. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 20 200TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION ALLOCATING $15,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND ALLOW STAFF TO SEEK ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM OTHER SOURCES.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOHNS, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE'LL HAVE A ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER

DEAN. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> YES, SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNS. >> YES.

>> I'LL BE A YES AS WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ALONG TO AGENDA ITEM NO. 5.

[5. Consider appointments to the Health & Human Services Advisory Council. ]

ADVISORY COWELL. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONER, MELISSA LUNDQUIST, ASSISTANT TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES ON THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL DUE TO EXPIRED TERMS, ONE IS REQUIRED TO BE FROM THE PROFESSIONAL IN THE DISCIPLINES OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, THE OTHER VACANCY IS AN ADD LARGE MEMBER, INCLUDED BUT NOT LIMITED TO COMPATIBLE AREAS OF BUSINESS, BANKING AND FINANCE, EDUCATION, LAW ENFORCEMENT, COMMUNITY LEGISLATURES AND ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES. IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET YOU COULD HAVE FOR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION 17 APPLICATIONS ALONG WITH A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL. THAT IS THE BASICS OF THIS ITEM. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS OF ME, I'M HAPPY

TO ANSWER. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF MRS. LUNDQUIST? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEEING NONE, WE'LL PROCEED

WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. >> PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 5? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. PHONE CALLS, CALL INS? APPARENTLY NOT. NO.

OKAY. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE? THE LIVE

AUDIENCE? APPARENTLY NOT. OKAY. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. WITH PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSED, BACK TO THE BOARD. I SAT THROUGH AND LISTENED TO THE PRESENTATIONS OF THE CANDIDATES THAT CHOSE TO PRESENT TO THE HEALTH AND HUMAN -- AND THE EXEMPLARY

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MOTIONS. >> YES.

>> MOTION TO APPOINT MISS -- I'LL DO THEM BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. UNLESS THERE'S A CONCERN. MOTION TO APPOINT MR. KELLY BATTELL TO THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR FOUR YEARS, SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE JULY 21, 2024. AND MOTION TO APPOINT MR. DAILY DALLY FOR A R YEAR TERM.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH,

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> I WOULD MAKE THE COMMENT, YOU MAY DO THE TWO MOTIONS TOGETHER. IF THEY ARE OTHER THAN

UNANIMOUS, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK. >> YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT, ABSOLUTELY. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON BOTH OF THESE, DO WE HAVE MOTIONS AND SECOND? IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? MAN,

COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> YES, SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNS. >> YES.

>> I'LL BE A YES AS WELL. AGENDA ITEM NO. 6. AGENDA ITEM NO. 6.

[2. Motion to adopt St. Johns County Emergency Proclamation No. 2020-_______, extending the local state of emergency for an additional seven day period.]

PROCEED. >> UNLESS ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER WOULD LIKE PRESENTATION ON THAT ITEM, IT'S SELF-EXPLANATORY.

THIS WAS THE FOURTH MONTH WE'VE CARRIED THIS FORWARD. BASED ON THAT AND DEALING WITH THE CURRENT COVID-19 PANDEMIC, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE FOR A MOMENT THE COMMENTS DR. ALLICOCK MADE WHICH I THOUGHT WERE ON POINT AND VERY CLEAR AND VERY PERSUASIVE. THE MAIN NUMBER THAT STUCK OUT WITH ME WAS THAT FROM ALL OF MARCH, APRIL AND MAY, CUMULATIVELY, WE HAD A TOTAL IN THIS COUNTY OF ROUGHLY 250 CASES. FOR THE LAST SEVEN WEEKS, THAT NUMBER HAS GROWN TO JUST OVER 2550. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN TO REDUCE WHAT HAS BECOME AN ESCALATING, EXPONENTIAL GROWING NUMBER OF CASES AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF DEATHS WE'VE EXPERIENCED IN THIS COUNTY. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, AND ALSO I WILL TELL YOU I HEARD DR. FAUCI SAY OVER THE WEEKEND THAT HE URGES STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO IMPLEMENT MANDATE MASK POLICIES AND WITH HIS RECOMMENDATION AND DR. ALLICOCK'S I'M COMPELLED TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION. LET ME SAY, I -- I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS LAST NIGHT AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN OLD ADAGE THAT SAYS WHEN THE HORSE IS DEAD, DISMOUNT. BUT THIS IS A CASE WHERE I'M GOING TO GET ON THE HORSE ONE MORE TIME, MAYBE IT'S ASLEEP, NOT DEAD. I'M GOING TO BEAT IT ONE MORE TIME AND SO I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS COMMISSION DELEGATE TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR UNDER THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION POWERS DIRECT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO IMMEDIATELY, BY EXECUTIVE ORDER, ISSUE A MANDATORY FACIAL COVERING MANDATE FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST, IF NOT THE MOST EFFECTIVE WEAPONS WE HAVE IN OUR ARSENAL AGAINST COVID-19.

THEREFORE, I AM COMPELLED TO MAKE THIS MOTION AGAIN IN THE CONSULTATION WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS MOTION WOULD ONLY REQUIRE SIMPLE MAJORITY BECAUSE IT'S DIRECTING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO, UNDER HIS AUTHORITY, UNDER THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION, TO ISSUE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER WHICH HE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO, OR HIS DIS I GO KNEE. WITH THAT, THAT'S MY MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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>> MOTION TO DIRECT COUNTY ATTORNEY TO IMMEDIATELY IMPLEMENT A MANDATE FACE MASK ORDER.

>> COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. >> I'M SORRY, ADMINISTRATOR, I PUT CA IN MY NOTES. AAPOLOGIZE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> MR. CHAIRMAN. CAN I ASK THE MAKER OF THE MOTION A QUESTION?

WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE? >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO AMEND YOUR MOTION AND START WITH COUNTY CONTROLLED FACILITIES FIRST? I THINK WE -- IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE NEED TO SET AN EXAMPLE. WE'RE NOT EVEN DOING THAT IN THE COUNTY. I CANNOT MAKE THAT MOTION AGAIN. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO AMEND THAT TO ADDRESS

THE COUNTY FIRST? >> I WOULD BE VERY WILLING TO MAKE THAT MOTION AFTER WE DISPOSE OF THIS MOTION AND VOTE.

>> THERE IS A MOTION ON THE TABLE. WE HAVE CLARIFICATION, ANOTHER MOTION CAN BE MADE BUT FOR PROCEDURAL REASONS WE NEED A

SECOND IN ORDER TO DISCUSS. >> LEGAL?

>> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, AS THE BOARD IS WAITING ON A -- WHETHER THERE'S A SECOND ON THIS MOTION, WOULD THE MAKER OF THE MOTION WRITE THIS EMERGENCY ORDER, WOULD IT BE SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME CRITERIA AS THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH IN TERMS OF WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A MASK AND EXCEPTIONS, ET CETERA?

>> THAT WOULD BE THE INTENT OF MY MOTION, TO MAKE SURE IT HAS SUFFICIENT SAFEGUARDS DEALING WITH E FOR EXAMPLE, MEDICAL EXCEPTIONS WHERE SOMEONE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO WEAR A MASK BECAUSE OF A MEDICAL CONDITION, PROBABLY AN AGE NUMBER, LESS THAN SIX YEARS OLD. ALL THE REASONABLE CONDITIONS THAT ARE IN BOT THE ST. AUGUSTINE AND THE JACKSONVILLE AND ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH ORDINANCES. THAT WOULD BE MY INTENT. AGAIN, I WANT TO BE CLEAR IN RESPONSE, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER RAISES AN EXCELLENT POINT AND I SUPPORT HIM AND HIS MOTION TO PURSUE MASKS WITHIN COUNTY FACILITIES, COUNTY EMPLOYEES, COUNTY CLIENTS AND VISITORS. BUT FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO GET A DETERMINATION ON MY

ORIGINAL MOTION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? HEARING NONE, THE MOTION FAILS FOR A LACK OF A

SECOND. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE REQUIRE MASKS BE WORN IN ALL COUNTY BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES BY BOTH STAFF AND VISITORS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT. MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, TO THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, I THINK THAT PROBABLY COULD BE DONE IN AT LEAST A COUPLE OF WAYS. ONE WAY WOULD BE TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO IMPLEMENT SUCH A REQUIREMENT.

THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR UNDER THE ADMINISTRATOR'S STATUTORY AND ORDINANCE AUTHORITY I BELIEVE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE THAT UNDER THOSE POWERS, HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A SORT OF PENALTY FOR THAT TYPE OF THING OTHER THAN OBVIOUSLY EMPLOYEES COULD BE -- FACE A CONSEQUENCE FOR NOT ABIDING BUT FOR THE PUBLIC. IN OTHER WORDS, THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, FOR THAT DIRECTION OR IMPLEMENTATION, WOULD THAT BE THROUGH EMERGENCY ORDER OR JUST THROUGH THE STATUTORY POWER AND ORDINANCE POWERS OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR?

>> THE LATTER WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. MY MOTION.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> I HAVE A MOTION THAT MASKS ARE WORN IN ALL COUNTY FACILITIES EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY BY EMERGENCY ORDER, THAT'S CORRECT?

>> DID YOU SAY THE LATTER? >> I SAID THE LATTER, WHICH IS THE -- UNDER HIS GENERAL POWERS HE ALREADY HAS TO ISSUE SUCH AN ORDER BUT THIS WOULD DIRECT HIM TO DO SO.

>> RIGHT. BUT THAT IS -- AS I UNDERSTAND, IT THAT WOULD NOT BE EMERGENCY ORDER, I CAN WRITE DIRECTIVES PERTAINING TO COUNTY PROPERTY SO BASICALLY HE WOULD DO A MEMO OR SOME OR.

>> I THINK I USED THE TERM EXECUTIVE ORDER WHICH HE HAS UNDER HIS AUTHORITY THAT WE WOULD DIRECT HIM TO IMMEDIATELY ISSUE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER TO REQUIRE ALL EMPLOYEES AND VISITORS TO WEAR A MASK WHEN IN COUNTY FACILITIES.

>> OKAY. I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING -- SO THE -- AN EXECUTIVE

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UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY. >> WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS POINT TO THE EMERGENCY ORDER, THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION AND HIS POWERS UNDER THAT EMERGENCY DECLARATION WOULD ALLOW HIM THE

ISSUE THE EXECUTIVE ORDER. >> YES, SIR, UNDERSTAND.

>> I THINK I CORRECTLY STATED IT TO START WITH AND SUMMARIZED IT CORRECTLY. WITH THIS DISCUSSION OF MODIFICATIONS, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT?

>> YES, SIR, I AM. >> MOTION, MASK TO BE WORN IN ALL COUNTY FACILITIES EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY VIA EMERGENCY ORDER OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. ALREADY, FURTHER DISCUSSION?

COMMISSIONER JOHNS. >> I WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION.

IS THAT ACCORDING TO CDC GUIDANCE OR JUST YOU SHALL WEAR A MASK EVERY TIME YOU WALK IN THE BUILDING AND THE ENTIRE TIME YOU'RE IN THE BUILDING? WHAT IS THE CLARIFICATION OR IS THIS UP

TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR? >> THOSE ARE -- I'M THE MOTION MAKER SO I'LL RESPOND. MY OPINION, IT'S UP TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO USE REASONABLE JUDGMENT TO ENFORCE IT AS HE DEEMS APPROPRIATE. I HAVE TOTAL FAITH IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THAT HE WOULD BE REASONABLE AND IN ALL LIKELIHOOD FOLLOW CDC GUIDELINES WHERE YOU SOCIAL DISTANCING IS NOT PRACTICAL. I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

>> OKAY. I JUST WANTED THAT CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WITH NONE, WE'LL

MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> PUBLIC COMMENT. ANY CALL INS

CALL INS ON ITEM 6. >> WE HAVE A CALL. GO AHEAD,

PLEASE. >> TOM REYNOLDS. 50 BRIG TEEN COURT. I AGREE WITH THIS MOTION FOR THE SAFETY OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT PEOPLE SHOULD WEAR A MASK WHEN THEY'RE COMING INSIDE THE BUILDING. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THEY SHOULD ACTUALLY HAVE FOR THE EMPLOYEES SAFETY GLASSES. SAFETY GLASSES FOR EVERY EMPLOYEE. THE SAFETY GLASSES RIGHT NOW ARE NOT TALKED ABOUT ENOUGH BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GETTING THIS COVID THROUGH THE EYE. THAT'S HOW IT TRANSFERS. ANYBODY WHO REMEMBERS THE LEGIONNAIRE'S DISEASE, IT CAME THROUGH THE AIR CONDITIONER. IT WASN'T JUST THE AIR CONDITIONER. I AGREE WITH HENRY DEAN AND BLOCKER'S MOTION AND SECOND. I HOPE THE COMMISSION VOTES FOR IT FOR THE SAFETY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE OUR GOOD PEOPLE DOWN THERE AND FURTHERMORE, I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT THE -- WHEN YOU LOOK ABOVE YOU AND YOU SEE THOSE AIR CONDITION VENTS, THE INTAKE, THOSE INTAKE VENTS SHOULD NOT TAKE INSIDE AIR, THEY SHOULD BE SWITCHED TO AN OUTSIDE TYPE OF -- WHERE THE AIR COMES IN THROUGH A FRESH TUBE THAT IS ICED DOWN, ALL FRESH AIR COMING INTO THAT BUILDING. IT'S BUILDINGS LIKE THE COUNTY COMMISSION BUILDING THAT EXACTLY IS GOING TO SPREAD THIS COVID VIRUS IN ALL BIG PLACES. PEOPLE CANNOT TAKE ENOUGH PRECAUTIONS IN AIR CONDITIONED PLACES. THIS IS A GOOD START TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE AND I'M ABSOLUTELY FOR THE SAFETY OF THE EMPLOYEES. I WISH YOU WOULD LET THE EMPLOYEES GO HOME FOR THE REST OF THE WEEK UNLESS THEY'RE ESSENTIAL, AND AIR THE BUILDING OUT, OPEN THE DOORS AND WINDOWS OF ANY COUNTY BUILDING. ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE SHOULD NOT BE THERE. WORK AT HOME. ESPECIALLY THE COMMUNICATION FOLKS, THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. I CAN'T GET OVER WHAT KIND OF WITH GOOD PEOPLE WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONERS AND

GOD BLESS ALL OF US, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER CALL IN? YES. >> YES, SIR. THIS IS ED FLAVIN, I WANT TO COMMEND THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER DEAN AND SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRMAN BLOCKER, THIS IS A REASONABLE COMPROMISE AND GOOD START AND SHOWS OUR COMMUNITY BELIEVES IN PROTECTING EACH OTHER AND IN SAVING LIVES. I WOULD ADD THAT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA IF WE COULD MAYBE DO ANOTHER MOTION PERHAPS TO USE SOME OF THE C.A.R.E.S. ACT FUNDING TO HAND OUT MASKS, HAND OUT MASKS TO EMPLOYEES OR EMPLOYERS OR VISITORS. I WAS EMBARRASS ADD COUPLE MONTHS AGO. I WAS AT THE PUBLIX ON THE ISLAND AND OUR FRIEND COLONEL RICK IRAQLAND WAS THERE AND SAID WHERE IS YOUR MASK? PEER PRESSURE LIKE THAT MAKES ME WEAR A MASK. WHEN I WENT TO SOUTHERN HORTICULTURE, I FORGOT MY MASK AND THE LADY WAS KIND ENOUGH TO GIVE ME ONE.

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WE'VE GOT ALL THIS MONEY FROM THE C.A.R.E.S. ACT. WE CAN AFFORD TO BUY SOME MASKS. THE SCHOOL BOARD BOUGHT $1.5 MILLION OF PPE AND SPREAD THE WEALTH AND THE EDUCATION AND KEEP IT GOING.

BUT I APPRECIATE THE DIALOGUE TODAY AND THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE, WHICH WE NEED TO SEE MORE OF IN GOVERNMENT THESE DAYS AND NOT LESS. I YIELD THE FLOOR AND THANK THE MAKER AND SECONDER OF THE MOTION. HAVE A GOOD DAY, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU.

>> YES, GO AHEAD, YOU'RE ON THE AIR.

>> YES, I'M DAWN WRIGHT, 353 WILD CYPRUS CIRCLE IN PONTE VEDRA. I LIVE IN A 55 PLUS COMMUNITY. IN THIS COMMUNITY, PEOPLE AT THE CLUBHOUSE ARE NOT WEARING MASKS. I DID A SURVEY AND MAYBE 10% ARE WEARING MASKS ON A REGULAR BASIS. ARE YOU HEARING WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE VILLAGES? IT'S ON THE WAY TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY'S 55 PLUS COMMUNITIES. IF YOU GUYS DO NOT GET ON IT AND DEMAND THAT PEOPLE WEAR MASKS. WE ARE THE HANDS -- WE ARE THE ACTION OF JESUS. AND IF YOU DO NOT DO THIS AT LEAST AT THE COUNTY LEVEL WITH YOUR EMPLOYEES, BUT WITH THE ENTIRE COUNTY, IN MY MIND, YOU ARE DOING THE WORK OF THE DEVIL BECAUSE IT'S CREATING DEATH. THIS IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MASK EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTY. EVERYONE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? ANY PHONE CALLS? THAT'S IT. OKAY. MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE?

>> B.J. KALEIDI, WEST CITY. >> IN THIS BUILDING RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE CAN'T SEE PROBABLY -- LET ME SEE, FOUR, MAYBE. THERE ARE EIGHT EMPLOYEES SITTING IN THIS BUILDING WITHOUT A MASK ON. NOW ARE THEY GOING TO BE REQUIRED OR IS THE ADMINISTRATOR GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAY NO, MISS ANDREWS AND MR. BRADLEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT YOU KNOW, THERE'S ANOTHER STATEMENT EARLIER -- WE CAN'T TREAT ONE PERSON ONE WAY AND ANOTHER PERSON ANOTHER WAY. WE HAVE TO TREAT -- I THINK THAT WAS THE GIST OF IT. WE ALL CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER AND TAKING THESE STANDS AND CALLING PEOPLE OUT IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS SHOULD BE MANDATED IN THESE BUILDINGS. I DON'T. IF YOU AND THIS BUILDING WANT TO REQUIRE IT, YOU CAN TELL PEOPLE WHEN WE COME IN AND YOU CAN HAND OUT THE MASKS. BUT AS LONG AS EIGHT STAFF MEMBERS ARE SITTING IN THIS BUILDING RIGHT NOW NOT MASKED, YOU CANNOT REALLY SAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, I I EXPECT EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM FROM NOW ON TO HAVE A MASK ON. INCLUDING MR. DEAN, MR. MR. SMITH AND INCLUDING MR. JOHNS. WHEREVER MR. BLOCKER IS, HE OUGHT TO HAVE ONE ON TOO. BUT I THINK IT'S INDIVIDUAL'S RESPONSIBILITY AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S THE GOVERNMENT'S TO TELL EMPLOYEES WHAT TO DO. SOME PEOPLE ARE WORKING AT HOME BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE CONDITIONS THAT THEY NEED TO PROTECT THEMSELVES. AGAIN, I'M GOING TO ASK AFTER THIS MEETING IS OVER FROM MISS ANDREWS, HOW MANY COUNTY EMPLOYEES HAVE TESTED POSITIVE? YOU DON'T WANT TO TELL US THAT. WE SHOULD KNOW. I DON'T NEED ANYBODY'S NAME. I JUST WANT THE STATISTICS. WE AS A PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW THAT. I APPRECIATE ALLOWING ME IN PERSON TO SPEAK. I THINK THERE OUGHT TO BE A RULE. THIS IS THE RULE WE NEED TO MAKE, MANDATE, ALL THE CALLERS AND ALL THE EMAIL INFORMATION SHOULD BE STATED CLEARLY BEFORE WE IN THE PUBLIC -- THAT YOU SEE STANDING HERE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE PLAYING GAMES. I KNOW THE GAMES OF WHY YOU WANT TO SPEAK LAST AND WHY YOU WANT TO REBUT EVERYTHING. SO PLEASE, MAKE THAT A RULE. IF YOU CALL IN, YOU CALL

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YOU. >> THANK YOU. FURTHER COMMENT?

SEEING NONE. >> PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.

>> TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE DIRECTING COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO MAKE THE RULES FOR THE NEEDS FOR MASK WITHIN ALL COUNTY BUILDINGS,

COUNTY WIDE, NOT JUST THIS ONE. >> THAT'S THE INTENT OF MY

MOTION. >> OKAY. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I

WAS CLEAR ON THAT. >> ANY OTHER CLARIFICATION

DISCUSSION? MR. BRADLEY? >> IS THE MANDATE TO MAKE THE

RULES OR TO WEAR THE MASK? >> WHAT I HAVE HERE, THIS IS WHAT I HAVE. NOW I'M -- THIS IS WHAT WAS SAID. IT KEEPS GETTING MODIFIED AND THAT'S FRUSTRATING TO ME AT THIS POINT. WHAT WAS SAID WAS MOTION FOR MASKS TO BE WORN IN ALL COUNTY FACILITIES EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY VIA EXECUTIVE OR EMERGENCY ORDER OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE. THAT'S -- NOW WE'VE GOTTEN INTO WHERE IT KEEPS GETTING MODIFIED. IF WE WANT TO AMEND IT, WE'LL VOTE ON AN AMENDMENT BUT THAT'S WHAT I HAVE

AS A MOTION. >> I'M SORRY THIS HAS GOTTEN CONFUSING BUT I THINK IT DESERVES FULL DISCUSSION. AND MY RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER JOHNS, IT WAS HIS QUESTION AND MY RESPONSE WAS THAT THE MOTION THAT YOU JUST READ, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD AGREE IS CORRECT. BUT I ALSO SAID THERE ARE ADDITIONAL ISSUES INVOLVING EXCEPTIONS TO THE MASK MANDATE AND I HAVE COMPLETE CONFIDENCE IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR HIS DESIGNEE TO ADDRESS ANY AND ALL EXCEPTIONS OR ANY OTHER PROVISOS THAT NEED TO BE INCLUDED. TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, I DID NOT MAKE A MOTION TO REQUIRE MASKS BE WORN COUNTY WIDE IMMEDIATELY. I MADE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR HIS DESIGNEE TO COME UP WITH IMMEDIATELY AN ORDER THAT WOULD ADDRESS REQUIRING MASKS. THAT ORDER WOULD INCLUDE WHATEVER EXCEPTIONS NEED TO BE INCLUDED TO MAKE SURE THAT ITS REASONABLE AND DEFENSIBLE A. THAT IS THE BEST I CAN EXPLAIN IT, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> THANK YOU, MR. COMMISSIONER DEAN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> HOW DO WE MAKE HAMBURGER OUT OF THIS. THE MOTION IS NOT TO MANDATE THE USE OF MASKS IMMEDIATELY, IT'S TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO CREATE RULES TO -- AS TO HOW AND WHEN

AND WHO WEARS MASKS. >> TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO IMPLEMENT A RULE REQUIRING MASKS IN BUILDINGS BUT WITH ALL THE PRO VISOS LIKE THE EXCEPTIONS TO AGE, WHATEVER HE DEEMS APPROPRIATE BASED ON OTHER EXAMPLES OF ORDINANCE RATHER THAN US TRYING TO SPEND THE REST OF THE DAY TRYING TO BUILD THE ORDINANCE OURSELVES. THAT'S THE

BEST I CAN EXPLAIN IT. >> SO IT'S A MOTION FOR HIM TO MAKE A RULING. NOT TO, AS OF THIS MOMENT, MANDATE WEARING

MASKS. >> WELL LET ME CALL ON THE COUNTY ATTORNEY BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE IT'S A RULE. I SUGGEST HE ISSUE A ORDER CONTAINING THAT. I'M NOT SURE WE NEED A RULE BUT

PATRICK, CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? >> RIGHT.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, DO YOU MIND? >> PLEASE.

>> I APOLOGIZE IF I ADDED TO THE CONFUSION. AS I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION NOW, IT'S TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ISSUE AN EMERGENCY ORDER, AND THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PROCLAMATIONS THE BOARD HAS DONE. THE ORDERS ARE DONE BEEN THE ADMINISTRATOR, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BEACH CLOSURE, OPENING, THOSE WERE DONE BY EMERGENCY ORDER, PERTAINING TO THE MANDATORY WEARING OF MASKS IN COUNTY FACILITIES OR BUILDINGS WITH THE -- THE APPROPRIATE PARTICULAR DESCRIPTION OF THAT AND INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, EXCEPTIONS AND -- I THINK IT'S -- IT'S IMPLIED THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR WOULD LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER

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>> THAT'S MY INTENT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I MAKE A

COMMENT? >> THE COMMISSIONER JOHNS STILL

HAS THE FLOOR. >> THANK YOU, SIR. WITH OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ON MILITARY LEAVE WE'RE DIRECTING MR. BRADLEY TO MAKE THIS WHICH IS WHY TWICE I REFERRED TO THE

ADMINISTRATOR OR HIS DESIGNEE. >> MANY BUSINESSES TO PUT THE MANDATES INTO PRACTICE IN THEIR BUSINESSES TAKE SOME TIME TO CONFER TO CREATE THEIR MASK MANDATES. BY WHEN DO YOU WANT

THIS ENACTED? >> IN REALITY, FOR ME, IF I MAY, AS SOON AS PRACTICAL. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT 1:30 THIS AFTERNOON. WHEN I SAY IMMEDIATE, I MEAN MORE TOWARDS THIS WEEK,

NOT NEXT MONTH. >> I HEARD IMMEDIATE.

>> I'M GLAD YOU RAISED THE QUESTION. MY DEFINITION OR MY REQUEST WOULD BE MY MOTION WOULD SAY AS AS SOON AS PRACTICAL.

>> MR. BRADLEY, IS THAT CLEARER OR DO YOU NEED MORE DETAILS?

>> NO, SIR, I THINK -- IF IT PASSES, WE COULD FAST TRACK IT AND LOOK AT OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND WHAT THEY HAVE IMPLEMENTED AND WHAT WE'VE DONE ON OTHER PROJECTS OR ORDERS, AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT WORKS BEST FOR OUR ORGANIZATION AND IMPLEMENT THAT. IT MAY TAKE A FEW DAYS, BUT IT CAN BE DONE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. JUST GOING TO THE QUESTIONS ASKED. WE HAVE SEVERAL EXAMPLES IN THE COUNTY, THE CLERKS OFFICE PUT THIS IN PLACE. I THINK THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF THE COURTHOUSE THAT WE CAN TAKE THEIR I GUESS THEIR PROCEDURES AND TRY TO IMPLEMENT THEM. THIS IS TO REALLY PROTECT THE PUBLIC. WE CAN'T CONTROL EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS BUT WE CAN SET AN EXAMPLE IN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS SO I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT OF THIS. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I THINK IT'S AN ACCOMPLISHABLE A TASK, ONE WE CAN IMPLEMENT AND WE HAVE LOCAL EXAMPLES IN PLACE THAT WE CAN TAKE FROM AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S ACCOMMODATED. THERE ARE HEALTH CONCERNS BUT I TRUST OUR STAFF TO SORT THROUGH THOSE

AND YOU CAN LEAD BY EXAMPLE. >> I CONCUR.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL PROCEED WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE.

COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNS. >> YES.

>> I AM A NO. MOTION PASSES 3-1, SIMPLE MAJORITY GETS IT. ALL RIGHT, THAT CONCLUDES THE -- NO, WE GOT TO GO THROUGH LSC, LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY THAT HAS BEEN PULLED. WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE EXTENSION OF THE LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO EXTEND OR HAVE ANY DISCUSSION NOT TOO -- I'LL ENTERTAIN A

MOTION. >> I WOULD MOVE THAT WE EXTEND THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION FOR AN ADDITIONAL SEVEN DAYS.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JOHNS TO EXTEND THE LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY. WHAT NUMBER WOULD THAT BE?

>> 24. >> NUMBER 24. DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DO WE NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> YES, SIR, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY I THINK YOU DID DO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE WHOLE ITEM NO. 6 WHICH WAS CONSENT ITEM NO. 2,

YES. >> ALL RIGHT. WE'LL -- ANY DISCUSSION? WE'LL PROCEED WITH A ROLL CALL COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> YES. >> COMMISSION BLOCKER.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS.

>> YES. >> I WILL BE A YES AS WELL. I THINK THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

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>> I WANT TO MENTION SOMETHING NOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO THINK ABOUT. A WEEK FROM TODAY WE'LL BE MEETING AGAIN, I PRESUME, UNDER THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION MEETING ON WHAT WOULD BE

TUESDAY, THE 18TH. >> YES, SIR.

>> I WOULD ASK YOU OR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, I AM SCHEDULED FOR MY FIRST CANVASSING BOARD MEETING THAT MORNING AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM TO TAKE ACTION AND -- BUT IT'S NOT A REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING, IT'S THE IN BETWEEN WEEKLY WHERE I THINK THE CHAIRMAN COULD, IF NECESSARY, UNDER HIS AUTHORITY,

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EXTEND THE DECLARATION. >> THAT'S CORRECT. IF THERE'S NOT A QUORUM, THE CHAIR HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ACT.

>> I'M GOING TO PLAN ON ATTENDING THE CANVASSING BOARD AND ASSUME THAT HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE AT LEAST THREE MEMBERS HERE BY PHONE OR OTHERWISE. IF NOT, THE PLAN B WOULD BE THAT

IT'S UP TO YOU, MR. CHAIR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,

COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> I'M NOT GOING FISHING, IN

OTHER WORDS,. >> THANK YOU, OR PLAYING GOLF.

IS THAT ALL YOUR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AGAIN I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REFLECT ON A COLLEAGUE, COMMISSIONER W WALDRON AND HIS FAMILY. I BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF PRAYER AND I BELIEVE IT'S MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN HIS LIFE. COMMISSIONER WALDRON CONTRIBUTED A LOT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF HIM RIGHT NOW AND WHAT HIS FAMILY'S GOING THROUGH. I ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE STATE OF FLORIDA RIGHT NOW. WITH ALL THIS GOING ON WITH THE COVID-19, WE ALSO HAVE THOUSANDS OF FIREFIGHTERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, MEMBERS OF THE NATIONAL GUARD ON THE FROND LINES. NOT SPEAKING FROM AN IVORY TOWER BUT BEING ON THE FRONT LINES, ENGAGING IN THIS SO I COMMEND THE MEN AND WOMAN WHO LEFT THEIR JOBS AND FAMILIES AND ARE ENGAGING IN THE FIGHT. NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT OR JUST WEIGHING IN WITH OPINION BUT DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. SO I WANT TO COMMEND THEM. I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD TODAY FOR THE WORK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT FORTH. I WANT TO THANK OUR STAFF FOR THEIR CONTINUED EFFORTS TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY AND APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S PATIENCE,

THANK YOU. >> THEIR COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER JOHNS. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER FORMED THE 2020 ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCENE SOUS COUNTY ECONOMY IN MAY 2019, SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME AGO. THE BOARD POINTED ME AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE AND IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO SERVE. THE COMMITTEE CONSISTS OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM MORE THAN 30 LOCAL AGENCIES AND ORGANIZES, INCLUDING THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS OFFICE, FLAGLER HOSPITAL, ST. JOHNS STATE COLLEGE AND MORE, OVER 30. THE COMMITTEE HELD THE FIRST MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 2019 AND MET THROUGH FEBRUARY OF 2020. THE FORMULATED AND EXECUTED A COMMUNITY FOR OUTREACH AND MARKETING CAMPAIGN PO PROMOTE --

>> THE COMMITTEE HOST ADD BOOTH AT COMMUNITY EVENTS AND FARMERS MARKETS WHICH WAS STAFFED AND POPULATED LARGELY BY COUNTY STAFF. WE PRODUCED SUCCESSFUL RESULTS. AT ALMOST 68% THE COUNTY RESPONSE IS THE HIGHEST IN THE STATE AMONG -- AMONG THE HIGHEST IN THE STATE IN NATIONAL AVERAGES, AMONG THE TWO HIGHEST IN THE STATE. I'M VERY PROUD OF THE RESPONSE OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR THIS VERY IMPORTANT ENDEAVOR THAT WILL EFFECT US FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS. WE'VE SEEN A 25% POPULATION INCREASE IN THE LAST DECADE AND WITH THE COVID IMPACT, A VERY IMPRESSED WITH PEOPLE WILLING TO APARTMENT. WE HELD THE FINAL MEETING JULY 16 AND RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM THE CENSUS ORGANIZATION AS A RESULT OF THAT. THE CENSUS TAKERS WILL CANVAS NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS TO ASSIST WITH COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO HAVE NOT RESPONDED. AS I UNDERSTAND, PEOPLE IS STILL RESPOND BY PHONE, ON LINE OR PAPER COPY. THROUGH OCTOBER 31ST. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE VOLUNTEERS WHO PARTICIPATED. THIS WAS IN ADDITION TO FULL-TIME JOBS AND RAISING FAMILIES TO MAKE THIS A SUCCESS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THIS EQUATES TO APPROXIMATELY $1,500 PER PERSON PER YEAR FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS OF OUR TAXPAYER MONEY WHICH GOES TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND QUALIFIES TO COME BACK TO US. WITHOUT PARTICIPATING IN THE CENSUS WE DO NOT QUALIFY FOR THAT MONEY AND IT GOES TO OTHER COUNTIES OR STATES. SO I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT, WHILE WE'RE FOCUSED ON PEOPLE'S HEALTH, TO RECOGNIZE THERE ARE MANY OTHER ASPECTS OUR COUNTY STAFF PARTICIPATES IN, THAT ON A DAILY BASIS, CONTRIBUTES TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE IN THE SHORT TERM THAT AFFECTS US LONG TERM. IT WAS AN HONOR TO SERVE AS CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE. FOR ALL THE STAFF HERE AND BEHIND THE SCENES THAT MADE IT SUCCESSFUL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING SO. ALSO I WANT TO BRING UP ONE OTHER ITEM.

>> COMMISSIONER, THAT GOES TO OCTOBER 16, THEY'LL DO PERSONAL

INTERFACE AND INTERACTION? >> OCTOBER 31ST.

>> 31ST. >> YES, SIR, TRICK OR TREAT.

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>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> AND IN 2000, ST. JOHNS COUNTY SET UP A BEACH RENOURISH. PROGRAM, ONGOING, THE COUNTY'S PORTION OF THAT PROGRAM THAT WAS PAID WAS APPROXIMATELY $2.6 MILLION, THE NONFEDERAL SHARE FOR BEACH RENOURISH.

WHICH CONTINUES. WITH THAT PROGRAM. THANKS TO THE EAGLE EYE OF OUR COUNTY STAFF AND RECONCILING THE BOOKS TO RECOGNIZE EXPENDITURES PAID TO DATE FOR THE SERVICES VERSUS FUNDING PROVIDED, THEY FOUND OUT WE'RE ELIGIBLE FOR OVER $300,000 REIMBURSEMENT OF FUNDS PAID BUT NOT NEEDED BY THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO PERFORM THE SERVICES TO DATE. IT'S PERFORMED IN PHASES SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE GET MONEY BACK. IT'S AN ONGOING PROGRAM BUT THE PORTION OF THE PROGRAM COMPLETED TO DATE, OUR STAFF RECOGNIZED WE WERE ELIGIBLE FOR OVER ROUGHLY 12% OVER WHAT WE PAID IN 2,000 TO COME BACK TO US FOR OUR CASH FLOW NEEDS FOR ONGOING BEACH RENOURISHMENT AND OTHER SERVICES. SO I WANT TO THANK THE ARMY CORE FOR DOING A JOB WELL UNDER BUDGET AND THANK OUR STAFF ESPECIALLY FOR RECOGNIZING THE FUNDS WE WERE ELIGIBLE FOR AND REQUESTED AND AS I UNDERSTAND HAVE BEEN APPROVED BACK TO THE COUNTY. THIS IS WHY I LIKE TO BRAG ABOUT OUR STAFF WHO DOESN'T COME BEFORE THE CAMERAS BUT DOES THEIR JOB DAY IN AND OUT TO FIND SOURCES OF FUNDING, TAXPAYER MONEY, TO BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY, FIND SOURCES OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO BRING BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY WE PROVIDED IN GOOD FAITH FOR SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM NEEDS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS DAY IN AND DAY OUT TO MANAGE THE MONEY WE DO HAVE AVAILABLE. IT'S LIMITED AS ARE OUR HUMAN RESOURCES, TO BE ABLE TO FIND RESOURCES SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE WE HAVE ALL EXPERIENCED, COME TO EXPECT IN MANY FACETS. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT 20 YEARS AGO THE EXPECTATIONS WERE FOR BEACH RENOURISHMENT. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, KEEP THE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE STATE AND FEDERAL ORGANIZATIONS TO CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY HEALTHY AND SAFE AND ENJOYABLE FOR BOTH THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS WHEN IT'S SAFE TO DO SO. FINALLY I'LL MENTION I LISTENED CAREFULLY TO THE COMMISSIONER'S RECOMMENDATION FOR WHAT STARTED AS A MASK MANDATE BUT IS BASICALLY TO FOLLOW THE CDC GUIDELINES AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE.

EVERY BUILDING HAS DIFFERENT NEEDS FOR EMPLOYMENT, EMPLOYEES, FOR SAFE, OPERATING, WORKING CONDITIONS OF OUR EMPLOYEES. THE HEALTH OF OUR EMPLOYEES. DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT, VERY PERSONAL HEALTHCARE NEEDS THAT I DO NOT WANTING TO PERSON-TO-PERSON TO FIND OUT IF THEY'RE ABLE TO WEAR A MASK OR NOT AND CASTIGATE PEOPLE FOR NOT WEARING THEM IF IT'S DETERMINED THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO SO. I CARRY ONE WITH ME WHERE I GO. MY WIFE AND I WEAR ONE WHEN APPROPRIATE, FOLLOWING THE CDC GUIDELINES. I WAS NOT ABOUT TO MANDATE USING A MASK EVERY TIME YOU WALK INTO A BUILDING WHEN IT'S NOT BEEN DETERMINED TO BE NECESSARY, ACCORDING TO OUR HEADQUARTER EXPERTS. THAT'S PART OF THE REASON I ASKED ABOUT AIRBORNE VIRUSES. THE VIRUS BEING AIRBORNE VERSUS WATER DROPLETS. IT'S A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE. I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE SO LONG AS IT'S SURGICAL IN APPLICATION AND NOT BROAD BRUSHED. WE ARE A SMART COMMUNITY. WE'RE CONSIDERATE AND COMPASSCOMPASSIONATE AND PROVIDE ABILITY OF OUR DIRECTORS AND OTHER DECISION-MAKERS TO LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL ENVIRONMENTS OF OUR EMPLOYEES TORQUES MAKE THAT TO E THAT DECISION IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ENCOURAGING BUSINESSES TO DO THE SAME FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES AND CUSTOMERS. EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS KNOW BEST HOW TO WORK SAFELY, CARRY ON SAFELY, PROTECT THEIR CUSTOMERS, FAMILY MEMBERS AND SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY. IT'S NOT A MATTER OF WHERE WE SHOULD FOLLOW CDC GUIDELINES BECAUSE THEY'RE SHOWN TO FLATTEN THE CURVE IF WE FOLLOW THEM. IT'S A QUESTION OF WHETHER YOU WANT GOVERNMENT TO FORCE YOU TO DO SO NORTH. WE HAVE SEEN WHAT BROAD BRUSH GOVERNMENT MANDATES DO FROM LAND USE IMPLEMENTATION DECADES AGO AND UNINTENDED EFFECTS IT HAD, SHUTTING DOWN OUR ENTIRE ECONOMY, WHILE WELL-INTENDED, STILL HAS DEVASTATING EFFECTS ON INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COUNTY STILL NOT EMPLOYED. TO EFFECTIVELY FLATTEN THE CURVE WE NEED TO DO

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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >> THANK YOU. JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT AND JUST FROM A AGRICULTURE STANDPOINT IN OUR COMMUNITY. FIELD CORN IS BEING HARVESTED, YIELDS ARE VERY VARYING. A LOT OF AVERAGE YIELDS ARE LOWER NOW BECAUSE OF DROUGHT CONDITIONS EXPERIENCED IN THE SPRING. GROUND PREPARATION HAS BEGUN FOR THE NEXT SEASON, CAN CABBAGE, COAL AND LEAKY GREEN CROPS. BE MINDFUL OF FARMERS USING THE ROADS. THEY CAN BE SLOW BUT ARE WORKING TO MAKE A LIVING AND FEED THE WORLD. JUST IF YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR NOT ONLY COMMISSIONER WALDRON BUT OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND FAMILIES AFFECTED BY DISEASE. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND PRAY FOR GOD'S HEALING IN THIS MATTER. THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY REPORT TODAY. ADMINISTRATION? MR. BRADLEY.

>> I HAVE NOTHING, SIR. >> COUNTY ATTORNEY?

>> NO REPORT TODAY. >> ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE NOW -- ALL HEARTS AND MINDS

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