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>> CHAIRMAN: MEETING CALLED TO ORDER AT 4:02.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, MS. KATHLEEN IS OUT SICK SO IF YOU DON'T MIND I WILL CALL ROLL. KEITH BIRNEY?

>> PRESENT. >> JOHN.

>> PRESENT. >>

>> CHAIRMAN: THANK YOU. >> I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIR.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, A BIT OF IN DULL GENCE AS WE DID LAST TIME.

IF I READ A BRIEF STATEMENT ABOUT OUR REMOTE PARTICIPATION

AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST. >> CHAIRMAN: GO AHEAD.

YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS. IF YOU BEAR WITH ME FOR A MOMENT. IN ORDER TO FURTHER MITIGATE THE TRANSMISSION OF THE CORONAVIRUS AND REDUCE THE RISK OF COVID-19 ILLNESS, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAS ADOPTED PROCEDURES TO CONDUCT MEETINGS USING REMOTE PARTICIPATION THROUGH EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION 2020-3 SO THE PUBLIC HAS THE MEANS TO COMMENT DURING THE MEETING WITHOUT PHYSICALLY ATTENDING. ALL INTERESTED PARTIES WERE PROVIDED BY MAIL ABOUT WRITTEN NOTICE OF THESE PROCEDURES AND THE PROCLAMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE WWW.SJCFL.US. ALONG WITH PRIOR COMMUNICATIONS INCLUDING EMAIL THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT BY TELEPHONE WHILE WATCHING THE MEETING VIA GTV OR STREAMING POSTED ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE. SGCFL.US.

THE PHONE NUMBER TO CALL INTO THE MEETING IS (904) 209-1265.

NOTICE OF THESE PROCEDURES INCLUDING THE TELEPHONE NUMBER HAVE BEEN POSTED ON THE ENTRANCE OF THE PERMIT CENTER AT 4040 LOUIS SPEEDWAY, ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA.

THE NOTICE ALSO IDENTIFIES THE AUDITORIUM AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING AT 500 SAN SEBASTIAN VIEW ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA HAS A PHYSICAL ACCESS POINT FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO DO NOT WISH TO OR ARE UNABLE TO ATTEND REMOTELY. IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DO NOT PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT THE PARTICIPANTS ARE ADVISED MEMBERS WHO ARE LISTENING WHO DO NOT PROVIDE COMMENT AND ARE NOT REQUIRED TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED.

FOR THOSE CALLING IN TO COMMENT, IF YOU RECEIVE A BUSY SIGNAL PLEASE CALL BACK. IN ADDITION CONTINUE TO WATCH GTV OR STREAM ON THE WEBSITE WHILE COMMENTING BECAUSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THERE WILL BE A THREE MINUTE TIMER.

HOWEVER, PLEASE MUTE OR LOWER THE VOLUME OF YOUR TELEPHONE OR COMPUTER WHILE COMMENTING TO AVOID AUDIO FEEDBACK.

PLEASE ALSO MUTE YOUR PHONE WHILE WAITING TO COMMENT.

AND PLEASE BE AWARE THOSE WATCHING ON GTV OR STREAMING WILL EXPLAIN A FIVE TO NINE SECOND DELAY IN VISUAL PRESENTATIONS AND PERHAPS AS 30 SECOND DELAY IN VERBAL RESPONSE TIMES. IF WE EXPERIENCE ANY TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WE'LL RECESS WHILE RESOLVED THEN RESUME THE MEETING. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> CHAIRMAN: THANK YOU. I GUESS WE NEED TO MAKE A NOTE, MR. CAPUTO HAS JOINED US IN THE MEETING.

FROM THE BOARD, WE NEED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM

[3) Minutes from June 15, 2020 reviewed for approval (Section 2)]

JUNE 15, 2020. IF YOU ALL READ OVER THE MINUTES AND HAVE NO ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS WE NEED A MOTION FOR

APPROVAL. >> BOARD MEMBER: I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

>> CHAIRMAN: THANK YOU FOR THAT MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> BOARD MEMBER: MR. CHAIRMAN, DAVE CAPUTO. I SECOND THAT.

>> CHAIRMAN: THANK YOU MR. CAPUTO.

IF WE HAVE NO DISCUSSION, WE NEED TO VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 15, 2020, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION, IF A

[4) Public information, exparte communications and identification of persons present for cases on the agenda read by Chair (Section 1)]

PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE BY THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY CONSTRUCTION BOARD OF AOUS! MENTES AND APPEALS WITH RESPECT TO ANY MATTER CONSIDERED AT THE MEETING OR HEARING, THEY WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND FOR SUCH PURPOSES MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD IS MADE. WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS BASED.

A TAPE GIVING DETAILS OF THIS HEARING IS ON PERMANENT RECORD

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IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND REFERENCED BY CASE NUMBER. IF THERE'S ANYBODY ON THIS BOARD WHO HAS HAD ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION WITH ANY CASE ON THIS AGENDA, PLEASE STATE THIS INFORMATION NOW.

[5) Board Attorney swears in representatives testifying.]

>> IF WE COULD I'M NOT SURE IF ANYBODY ON THE PHONE HEARD THAT.

IF WE HAVE ANYBODY ON THE PHONE, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

AND IF YOU WOULD MAKE SURE TO SPEAK GENERALLY INTO THE

MICROPHONE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> SPEAKER: CAN YOU HEAR ME?

[6) Old Business]

>> CHAIRMAN: BARELY. >> SPEAKER: IS THAT GOOD? OKAY. LORI ST. JOHNS COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. THIS IS CASE 1903.

3930 COASTAL HIGHWAY. THE BOARD LAST HEARD THIS CASE ON SEPTEMBER 16, 2019, WHERE YOU ASKED TO RETURN IT TO YOU ON NOVEMBER 1ST OR HAVE VIOLATIONS CORRECTED BY NOVEMBER 1ST AND RETURN TO YOU ON NOVEMBER 18TH, 2019.

THAT'S EXHIBIT A. THREE PAGES IN YOUR PACKET WHICH IS YOUR SIGNED BOARD ORDER. THAT HEARING WAS CANCELLED AND WE DID NOT RESET THE HEARING FOR THIS CASE DUE TO THE FORECLOSURE SALE AND THE IMPENDING DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE BY THE BANK. ON OR ABOUT MARCH 25, 2020, THE BANK DID COMPLETE THE DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE AND THE REMOVAL OF THE DEBRIS WAS COMPLETED. THAT IS GOING TO BE EXHIBIT B IN YOUR PACKET. THESE ARE FIVE PHOTOGRAPHS.

THESE PHOTOGRAPHS WERE TAKEN BY MYSELF AND THEY ARE ACCURATE REPRESENTATION AT THE TIME THAT THEY WERE TAKEN.

THE BANK DID SELL THE PROPERTY AND A NOTICE OF HEARING WAS SENT TO THE NEW OWNER WHICH WAS SIGNED FOR JUNE 15, 2020.

THAT'S GOING TO BE EXHIBIT C IN THE PACKET WHICH IS THE PROPERTY APPRAISAL TAX PARCEL. SPECIAL WARRANT DEED FOR THE NEW OWNER. THE NOTICE OF HEARING.

THE SIGNATURE CARD. THAT'S THE NOTICE OF HEARING.

AND THIS SHOWS THAT MR. COOPER DID SIGN FOR IT.

AT THIS TIME WE'D LIKE FOR THE BOARD TO FIND THE PROPERTY IN COMPLIANCE AND DISMISS THE CASE FROM ANY FURTHER BOARD ACTION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?

>> CHAIRMAN: THANK YOU. DOES HE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

WE NEED A MOTION FOR CASE NUMBER 19-03.

>> BOARD MEMBER: MR. CHAIRMAN I'D LIKE TO MOTION A MOTION FOR CASE 19-03, 3930 COASTAL HIGHWAY.

I MAKE THE MOTION TO FIND THE RESPONDENTS IN COMPLIANCE WITH ORDINANCE 2000-48 AND DISMISS THE CASE FROM FURTHER BOARD

ACTION. >> CHAIRMAN: THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> BOARD MEMBER: I SECOND THE

MOTION. >> CHAIRMAN: THANK YOU, MR. CLAY. ANY DISCUSSION? IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CASE NUMBER 19-03. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS.

NEXT CASE. >> SPEAKER: ST. JOHNS COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT. THIS IS 19-07.

IT IS 720 FRANCES STREET. THE BOARD LAST HEARD THIS CASE ON DECEMBER 16, 2019, WHERE THE BOARD ORDERED THE COUNTY TO

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ABATE THE HAZARDOUS STRUCTURE BY DEMOLISHING THE STRUCTURE, REMOVING ALL DEMOLITION DEBRIS, AS WELL AS ALL THE TRASH, GARBAGE AND DEBRIS OUTSIDE OF THE STRUCTURE, AND TO PLACE ALL COSTS AS AN AGAINST THE PROPERTY WAS ALLOWED BY LAW.

EXHIBIT A WHICH IS THE BOARD SIGNED ORDER.

THAT ORDER WAS SENT BY CERTIFIED MAIL TO THE RESPONDENT.

IT WAS RETURNED TO THE COUNTY UNSIGNED THEREFORE IT WAS SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER VIA REGULAR MAIL.

IT WAS NOT RETURNED. WE ALSO POSTED THE ORDER AT THE PROPERTY IN THE COURTHOUSE ON DECEMBER 16TH AND DECEMBER 17TH.

APOLOGIZE, THAT WAS EXHIBIT B. THE DEMOLITION CONTRACTOR WAS ABLE TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE ON OR ABOUT APRIL 14, 2020, AND REMOVE ALL OF THE EXTERIOR DEBRIS AND THE COUNTY WAS INVOICED $27,153.97 FOR THE WORK COMPLETED.

THIS IS EXHIBIT C, FIVE PAGES IN YOUR PACKET, WHICH INCLUDES THE INVOICE AND FIVE PHOTOGRAPHS DEPICTING THAT THEY DID COMPLETE THE WORK AS INVOICED. THESE PHOTOGRAPHS WERE TAKEN BY MYSELF AND THEY ARE AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION AT THE TIME THAT THEY WERE TAKEN. A NOTICE OF COST CONFIRMATION HEARING WAS SENT CERTIFIED MAIL AND SIGNED FOR ON JUNE 20TH, 2020. THE NOTICE WAS ALSO POSTED AT THE PROPERTY IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND NOTICE OF THE HEARING WAS POSTED IN THE ST. AUGUSTINE RECORD FOR FOUR WEEKS TO MEET THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED BY FLORIDA STATUTE. THIS IS EXHIBIT D, FOUR PAGES IN YOUR PACKET. THIS IS THE NOTICE OF HEARING.

THIS IS WHERE THE RESPONDENT SIGNED.

THIS IS THE AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING AT BOTH THE COURTHOUSE AND THE PROPERTY. PER ORDINANCE 2000 THE COUNTY SHALL ADD TO THE COST OF ABATEMENT, ADMINISTRATIVE FEE OF TEN PERCENT. THEREFORE THE COUNTY REQUEST YOU CONFIRM THE COST OF ABATEMENT AT $29,869.37 AND ORDER IT TO BE RECORDED BY CLERK OF COURT AS A LIEN AGAINST THE PROPERTY AND UPON ANY OTHER REAL OR PROPERTY OWNED BY THE RESPONDENTS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONSES FOR ME?

>> CHAIRMAN: THANK YOU. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS? >> BOARD MEMBER: I HAVE ONE.

HOW BIG OF HOUSE WAS ON HERE? SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE?

>> SPEAKER: IT WASN'T THAT LARGE OF A PROPERTY.

IT WAS THIS HAPPEN I SIZE OF THE HOUSE.

IT WAS MORE OF THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF. HE WAS THE HOARDER. SHOW YOU SOME OF THE PHOTOS FROM PREVIOUS. THAT'S FROM JUST ONE PAST CASE AND I'LL GO BACK AND GIVE YOU THE ORIGINALS.

>> CHAIRMAN: HE HAD A BUNCH OF STUFF IN THE YARD.

>> SPEAKER: YES IT WAS MOSTLY CONCRETE WHICH IS WHY THE BILL IS QUITE HIGH. CONCRETE THEY TAKE TO A DIFFERENT LANDFILL I BELIEVE. THEY STILL CHARGED US THE TEN DOLLARS A SQUARE FOOT BUT IT WAS QUITE A BIT.

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>> CHAIRMAN: SO YOU ARE OKAY WITH THE COST OF IT?

>> SPEAKER: YEAH. WE HAD TO MEASURE THE DEBRIS PILE SEPARATE. IT'S KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE CASE THAT YOU HAD OFF OF, I WANT TO SAY DEER RUN ROAD, WHERE THE ENTIRE BLOCK WAS PRETTY MUCH COVERED.

CONCRETE, WOOD, WASHING MACHINES, ANYTHING THAT HE COULD SCRAP IS WHAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY.

>> CHAIRMAN: ANYMORE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, WE NEED A MOTION.

>> BOARD MEMBER: MR. CHAIRMAN, DAVE CAPUTO.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IN THE CASE NUMBER 19-07720 FRANCIS STREET. MAKE THE MOTION TO CONFIRM THE $29,869.37 AS THE COST OF ABATEMENT SO ORDERED TO BE RECORDED WITH THE CLERK OF COURTS AS A LIEN AGAINST THE PROPERTY UPON ANY OTHER REAL OR PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE

RESPONDENTS. >> CHAIRMAN: THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> BOARD MEMBER: MR. CHAIRMAN, BILL LONNY, I SECOND THE MOTION.

>> CHAIRMAN: THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION ON CASE NUMBER 19-07 SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIES, UNANIMOUS. >> SPEAKER: THAT CONCLUDES THE

[7) New Business]

COUNTY. I BELIEVE BRAD HAS SOME DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE APPLICATIONS RECEIVED FOR YOUR ALTERNATES AND TO REAFFIRM KEITH.

>> AM I SUPPOSED TO SIGN THIS? >> SPEAKER: YES BECAUSE YOU PRESIDED. .

>> WE CAN WAIT FOR MR. -- >> CHAIRMAN: GO RIGHT AHEAD.

>> THANK YOU. YOU SHOULD HAVE THE BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THREE APPLICATIONS.

WE CURRENTLY AS INDICATED IN THE AGENDA HAVE ONE REGULAR POSITION ON THE BOARD OPEN AND TWO ALTERNATE POSITIONS OPEN.

WE HAVE AN COMPLICATIONS FROM KEITH BURNEY FOR REAPPOINTMENTMENT. AN APPLICATION FROM DALE JACKSON FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE BOARD. AND AN APPLICATION FOR ROBERT BLOOD APPOINTMENT TO THE BOARD. PROCEDURALLY THIS BOARD FOLLOWS THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PROCEDURES FOR APPOINTMENTS. SO, THAT WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF A MOTION OR A NOMINATION FOR A POSITION WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF A MOTION. AND WOULD BE VOTED ON IN THE ORDER OF THE MOTION. SO, WE'D NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ANY NOMINATION AND THIS BOARD CAN RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR AN APPLICANT TO FILL A PARTICULAR SPOT. SO, FOR INSTANCE IF THEY WANTED TO-- IF THIS BOARD WANTED TO RECOMMEND MR. BURNEY TO FILL THE REGULAR SPOT THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION AND IT CAN BE PASSED ON TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE ONE OF THE OTHER APPLICANTS TO FILL THE SPOT OR IF YOU DON'T WANT TO RECOMMEND ANY OF THEM, THAT'S AN OPTION FOR THIS BOARD AS WELL. SO I WILL NOTE THAT I BELIEVE MR. BURNEY HAS SERVED TWO TERMS ALREADY IN THIS POSITION.

AM I RIGHT ABOUT THAT, MR. BURNEY?

>> I BELIEVE SO, YES, SIR. >> I BELIEVE THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKELY HAVE TO WAIVE ITS GENERAL RULE AGAINST MORE THAN TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS ON A BOARD BUT THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS CAN CHOOSE TO DO THAT.

SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WO WANT-- THAT THIS BOARD WOULD WANT TO RECOMMEND MR. BURNEY TO SERVE AGAIN ON THIS BOARD, THEN WE CAN INCOULD THAT RECOMMENDATION ALONG TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WHEN THEY CONSIDER THE WHOLE PACKAGE. I HOPE ANY OF THAT MADE ANY SENSE. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS

FEEL FREE TO ASK ME. >> BOARD MEMBER: DO WE MAKE THE

MOTION TO YOU? >> YOU WOULD JUST MAKE A MOTION AS YOU DID ON ALL THE CASES. YOU MAKE A MOTION AND IT WOULD NEED A SECOND. THEN ONCE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE MOTIONS WE CAN VOTE ON THEM IN THE ORDER THEY COME.

>> BOARD MEMBER: I MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT MR. KEITH BURNEY FOR HIS NEXT TERM AND ALSO TO REMAIN THE CHAIR.

>> I DON'T THINK WE DO THAT AT THIS POINT BUT AT LEAST FOR HIS CURRENT TERM THE MOTION CAN REMAINS A YOU MADE IT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SO IT'S JUST FOR THE TERM?

>> RIGHT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: DAVE CAPUTO.

I WOULD SECOND THAT MOTION. >> CHAIRMAN: THANK YOU.

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WE HAVE A-- ANY DISCUSSION? >> MR. CHAIR, TO BE CLEAR, I'M PRETTY SURE I UNDERSTOOD YOU BUT THIS WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION TO FILL THE OPEN REGULAR SPOT CORRECT?

AS OPPOSED TO THE ALTERNATIVE? >> BOARD MEMBER: YES.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> CHAIRMAN: DO YOU STILL GO WITH THAT MR. CAPUTO?

>> BOARD MEMBER: YES. >> CHAIRMAN: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO REAPPOINT ME AS A REGULAR MEMBER.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

DO WE JUST BRING THEM UP ONE BY ONE?

>> SURE. SO THAT WAS OUR FIRST MOTION ON THE REGULAR SPOT. NOW WE HAVE TWO ALTERNATE SPOTS.

SO WE CAN MAKE A MOTION FOR THE NEXT ALTERNATE SPOT OR I'M SORRY

THE FIRST ALTERNATE. >> BOARD MEMBER: I MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO APPOINT DALE A.

JACKSON, II AS AN ALTERNATE TO THE BOARD.

>> CHAIRMAN: THANK YOU MS. STACY.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> COUNCILMEMBER: I SECOND THE

MOTION. >> CHAIRMAN: THANK YOU, MR. ALEX. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION FOR MR. DALE A. JACKSON, II SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: MR. CHAIRMAN. I'LL MAKE ANOTHER MOTION TO RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS TO APPOINT ROBERT F. BLOOD AS AN ALTERNATE TO OUR BOARD.

>> CHAIRMAN: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> COUNCILMEMBER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I SECOND THE MOTION.

>> CHAIRMAN: THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND.

FOR MR. ROBERT F. BLOOD TO FILL THE ALTERNATE VACANCY ON THE BOARD. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS.

ANYTHING ELSE? >> SPEAKER: THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. >> CHAIRMAN: ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD? IF NOTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD, WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN AT 4:24 P.M.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

>> C

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.