Jul 16, 2020 Planning and Zoning Agency

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>> SONYING AGENCY. I WILL READ TO YOU FOR THE FIRST 15 OR 20 MINUTES AND THEN WE CAN GET ON WITH THE PROGRAM.

AS A PRELIMINARY MATTER I'M ARCHIE WAINWRIGHT.

I'M ACTING SHARE OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING.

I'M ASSISTED TODAY BY ROY HERE WITH ME.

PERMIT KNOW CONFIRM THAT ANY AGENCY AND STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT PHYSICALLY PRESENT CAN HEAR ME.

>> I CAN HEAR YOU. >> I THINK YOU CAN HEAR ME.

THAT IS VERY GOOD. I'M GOING TO GO OVER ONE MORE TIME. I'M GOING TO CALL MY NAME.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME PLEASE RESPOND.

>> DR. WILLIAM MCCORMICK. >> I'M HERE.

>> DR. RICHARD -- >> PRESENT.

>> MIKE IS ABSENT. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE HIM PROUD OF US TODAY. MRS. PER SKINS ABSENT I BELIEVE.

ROY. >> PRESENT.

>> MR. MOLTAVINA. >> I'M HERE.

>> MRS. MOORE. >> I'M HERE THANK YOU.

>> KIN MRS. MAY. >> MR. CHAIR, MRS. MAY ITEM NUMBER 7. SHE MAY NOT CALL IN YET.

>> FINE. >> AND WE HAVE MR. MCCORMICK,

THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WITH US. >> HERE.

NOW INTRODUCTION, IT SAYS INTRODUCTION TO THE MEETING INCLUDING REMOTE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME THE THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY. IN ORDER TO MITIGATION THE TRANSMISSION OF THE CORONA VIRUS AND REDUCE RISK OF COVID 19 ILLNESSES, THE GOVERNOR HAS SPENDED THE REQUIREMENTS OF A FISCAL QUORUM AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION HAS ADOPTED PROCEDURES USING REMOTE PARTICIPATION THROUGH EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION NUMBER 20-23. ALONG WITH PRIOR COMMUNICATIONS INCLUDING EMAIL THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT BY TELEPHONE WHILE WATCHING THE MEETING VIAGTV ORB POSTING ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE. THE WEBSITE ALSO PROVIDES THE TELEPHONE NUMBER TO USE TO CALL INTO THE MEETING.

EVEN IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DO NOT PROVIDE COMMENT, PARTICIPANTS ARE ADVISED THAT PEOPLE MAY BE LISTENING WHO DO NOT PROVIDE COMMENT AND THOSE PERSONS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED. FOR THOSE OF YOU CALLING IN TO COMMENT, IF YOU RECEIVE A BUSY SIGNAL, PLEASE CALL BACK.

IN ADDITION PLEASE SELF-TIME THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THE THREE MINUTE COMMENT TIMER WILL BE VISIBLE TO YOU BECAUSE OF A DELAY IN THE TRANSMISSION OF THE MEETING, YOUR TIMING WILL BE MORE ACCURATE.

FINALLY PLEASE MUTE YOUR PHONES WHILE YOU ARE WAITING TO COMMENT AND MUTE THIS MEETING ON YOUR TELEVISION OR COMPUTER WHEN YOU ARE SPEAKING. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT A FIVE TO NINE SECOND DELAY WILL APPLY TO VISUAL PRESENTATIONS AND IF WE EXPERIENCE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WE WILL RECESS WHILE THEY ARE RESOLVED AND THEN RESUME THE MEETING.

WITH RESPECT TO MEETING MATERIALS, THERE ARE MATERIALS FOR THIS MEETING AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE.

GO TO THE HOME PAGE UNDER AGENDA/MINUTES.

THERE IS A LINK TO THE AGENDA AND INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEMS IN ORDER TO ACCESS ALL THE SUPPORTING MATERIAL.

ROLL CALL VOTE. FINALLY IF ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD IS PARTICIPATING REMOTELY, THEN EACH VOTE WILL BE CONDUCTED

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THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT ARE OPTIONAL AT THE CHAIR'S DISCRETION AND I WILL ONLY OCCUPY THE NEXT 45 MINUTES PROVIDING THEM TO YOU. LET'S GET ON WITH THE MEETING.

I WILL ASK MR. ALAMO TO READ THE >> THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN CONCURRENCE WITH FLORIDA LAW.

PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON AREAS OF JURISDICTION AND OFFER COMMENT AT A DESIGNATED TIME DURING THE HEARING. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC DESIRING TO SPEAK MUST INDICATE SO BY COMPLETING A SPEAKER CARD WHICH IS AVAILABLE IN THE FOYER. ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS MAY BE HEARD ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN.

PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT I TIME DURING THE MEETING FOR A LENGTH OF TIME AS DESIGNATED BY THE CHAIRMAN WHICH WILL BE THREE MINUTES. SPEAKERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES WHO RECOLLECTS THEY REPRESENT AND STATE THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIMONY. THE IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE WITH RESPECT TO ANY MATTER CONSIDERED OF THE HEARING, SUCH PERSON WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDING AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT AVER BAIT TIM RECORD OF PROCEEDING IS MADE WHICH INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE MADE.

ANY -- THE RECORD WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OTHERS IN THE COUNTY IN ANY REVIEW OF APPEALING RELATING TO THE ITEM.

BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH ITEM THEY SHOULD STATE WHETHER THEY HAD COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT OR SUBSTANCE OF THE ITEM OUTSIDE THE FORMAL AGENCY.

IF COMMUNICATION HAS OCCURRED THEY SHOULD IDENTIFY THE COMMUNICATION. WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE. WE WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS.

>> THANK YOU. NOW IS THE TIME THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA, YOU CAN DO THAT AT THIS TIME.

THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. MOVING ON TO THE AGENDA ITEMSEST

[Items 1 & 2]

I WILL ROLL CALL VOTE FOR THAT. THE FIRST ITEM ZR2020-12.

ITEM PREP ELEMENTARY EXPANSION ZONING VARIANCE.

LET ME GO DOWN THE LIST HERE AND ASK FOR EX PARTE COMMENTS.

>> MR. CHAIR, IT APPEARS THAT ITEMS NUMBERS ONE AND TWO ARE RELATED SO YOU MAY WANT TO ASK FOR EX PARTE FOR THE TWO OF

THOSE TOGETHER. >> LET'S EXPAND THIS FOR BOTH ITEMS ONE AND TWO. 2020-09 ITEMS ONE AND TWO.

LET ME GO DOWN THE LIST. ANY EX PARTE MR. MOTOVINO?

>> NO EX PARTE. >> DR. MCCORMICK?

>> NO EX PARTE. AND I'M HERE.

>> THANK YOU. YOUR VOICE HAS BEEN RECORDED TWICE AND I'LL RECORD ALL YOUR VOTES TWICE AS WELL.

>> NO EX PARTE. >> NO EX PARTE.

>> I HAVE NONE. >> WHO IS GOING THE PRESENT THIS ITEM? IF YOU WILL TELL US YOUR NAME

AND DRESS. >> CHRISTOPHER WALKER.

I'M AN ATTORNEY AND THE REPRESENTATIVE HERE FOR ISLAND PREP TODAY. MY ADDRESS WILL BE 1051 DEERWOOD PARK BOULEVARD SOUTH, JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA FROM,

32256. >> WILL YOU BE PRESENTING ITEMS

ONE AND TWO TOGETHER? >> FOR CONSIDERING THIS VARIANCE TODAY I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ISLAND PREP SCHOOLS.

WE ARE HERE SEEK A VARIANCE TODAY TO SECTION 2 SPOT 03 SPOT C OF THE ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

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WE'VE BEEN THROUGH ZONING PROCESS WITH THE BOARD.

AND BELIEVE THAT BASEND TO MITIGATING FACTORS AND THE APPLICATION TO EXPAND THE CURRENT SCHOOL LOCATION, WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND CAN SHOW THE IMPACT THAT NOT GRANTING THIS VARIANCE WOULD HAVE IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH YOUR ABILITY TO GRANT SAID VARIANCE. IN PARTICULAR WE HAVE ADDRESSED AND ARE LOOKING AT THE CONCERNS AROUND WHY A SCHOOL WOULD BE WITHIN THAT 1,000-FOOT BUFFER FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PLACE OF DISTRIBUTION. IN PARTICULAR WE BELIEVE IN MITIGATING FACTORS WE'VE IDENTIFIED IN THE APPLICATION INCLUDING THE FACT THAT OUR HOURS OF OPERATION ARE ONLY FROM 8:00 TO 2:45 WHICH DOES NOT OVERLAP WITH THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS OF THE ACTUAL RESTAURANT.

WE HAVE ADDITIONAL SECURITY MEASURES IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT NO CHILDREN RAILROAD PEOPLE TRANSGRESSING TO OR FROM THE ACCESS CAN ACCESS THE SCHOOL. THAT IS A RESTRICTIVE ABILITY TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE SCHOOL TO ENSURE THERE IS NO CONCERNS OR POTENTIAL ISSUES RESULTING FROM PEOPLE TRANSGRESSING TO AND FROM THE RESTAURANT. WE ALSO HAVE PERSONAL MONITORING PROGRESS WE CAN SEE PEOPLE ON CAMERA COMING THROUGH AND FROM SECURITY SYSTEMS WE CAN SEE PEOPLE COMING TO AND F. AND WE BELIEVE DUE TO THE SMALL SIZE OF THE RESTAURANT AND WHERE WE OPERATE WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE BUILDING, THIS BUFFER REQUIREMENT IS NOT NEEDED FOR PURPOSES OF THIS VARIANCE.

IN ORDER TO ADDRESS A FEW COMMENTS WE KNOW THAT CAME THROUGH, I'D LIKE THE ADDRESS THOSE UP FRONT NOW.

THERE HAS BEEN CONCERN ABOUT THE POTENTIAL INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THE SITE. OUR PLAN FOR THAT SITE IS TO USE THE ACCESS OFF OF U.S. 1 FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS PURPOSES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IF THE AERIAL MAP CAN BE SHOWN.

AS YOU CAN SEE THE SITE IS IDENTIFIED IN THE HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW PORTION IS THE SITE WE'RE SPEAKING OF.

THE SCHOOL THAT IS CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED WHICH IS SUBJECT TO THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE BEACHES TO THE IMMEDIATE NORTH.

>> HOUR PLAN TO ENSURE INSTEAD OF COMING OFF OCEAN TRACE ROAD BEEN CONCERN FOR CERTAIN RESIDENTS, WE INTEND TO DROP OFF AND EXIT WITH THE CURB CUTS ENSURING TEACHERS AND PARENTS ARE THERE AND ABLE TO WALK THEIR CHILDREN TO THE CORRESPONDING SCHOOL AT ALL TIMES. IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'VE DONE, WE ARE SEEKING -- TO THE CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE KNOW PRESENT ON THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR LIKE TO TAKE COMMENT ON THE VARIANCE

FIRST SIR? >> WE'LL TAKE THEM ONE AT A

TIME. >> WITH THAT I'M OPEN TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE'RE PROUD TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY HERE AND LOOK FORWARD TO PROGRESSING THIS MATTER WITH

YOUR INPUT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

WOULD YOU GO OVER AGAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UNLOADING AND LOADING PARTICULARLY FROM U.S. 1?

>> YES, SIR. AS IT'S SITUATED RIGHT NOW, MOST PARENTS ARE COMING FROM NORTHBOUND U.S. 1 GOING SOUTHBOUND ON U.S. 1 AND ENTERING HERE INTO OCEAN TRACE.

DUE TO THE COVID CRISIS, WE WOULD NORMALLY HAVE PEOPLE PARK IN OUR PARKING LOT HERE AND MERELY DROP OFF THEIR CHILDREN HERE. HOWEVER, THE SIDE ENTRANCE DOOR IS HERE. DUE TO COVID WE'VE HAD TO ROUTE AND TURN THROUGH HERE TO DROP CHILDREN OFF TO TAKE TEMPERATURES AND MAKE SURE WE KEEP THE FACILITY SECURE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WITH THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO THROUGH OCEAN TRACE AND COME THROUGH HERE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE THE EXISTING CURB CUTS ESTABLISHING A DROPOFF POINT HERE TO BE ABLE TO COME THROUGH HERE AND GO THROUGH HERE ON THE THOROUGH FARE WHICH IS THE PROPERTY WE OWN AND EXIT BACK ON U.S. 1 HERE.

THUS ALLEVIATING ANY BACKUP OR CONCERNS ALONG THE OCEAN TRACE

ROAD. >> MR. CHAIR, COULD I INTERJECT PLEASE FOR A MOMENT? U.S. 1 KEEPS COMING UP.

I BELIEVE THEIR ACCESS IS OFF OF A1A.

>> MY APOLOGIES TO THE CHAIR AND THE BOARD.

>> WE ONLY MISSED IT BY A COUPLE OF MILES.

>> LET ME GO DOWN AND ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.

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COMMENTS. >> DO I HAVE COMMENTS OR A QUESTION. I'D LIKE FOR THE APPLICANT TO EXPLAIN WHEN THE HARDSHIP IS HERE.

I'M HAVING DIFFICULTY SEEING WHAT THE HARDSHIP IS.

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THE CURRENT ZONING REGULATIONS STATE HAT THERE CAN'T BE AN ESTABLISHMENT OF A PRIVATE CURRICULUM SCHOOL WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT EVERYBODY IS ALCOHOL. TO THE IMMEDIATE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON THE MAP IS A RESTAURANT, GREAT RESTAURANT I MIGHT ADD.

THEY DO EVERYBODY IS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES THERE.

THE VARIANCE IS TO REQUEST PERMISSION TO ESTABLISH THE SCHOOL NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THERE IS A CODE REGULATION THAT PROHIBITS A SCHOOL FROM BEING ESTABLISHED WITHIN THAT

1,000-FOOT BUFFER. >> I BELIEVE HE ASKED YOU FOR

THE HARDSHIP. >> THE HARDSHIP SIR WOULD BE UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE AN EXISTING SCHOOL HERE.

THE HARDSHIP IS TO ESTABLISH AN -- TO TAKE THE EXISTING SCHOOL AND MOVE IT OUTSIDE OF ITS CURRENT LOCATION IN ADDITION TO TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE NOT ONLY THE PARENTS PARENTS, TEACHERS AND INCES AND EGRESS, THE HARDSHIP IS ATTEMPTING TO ESTABLISH OUTSIDE OF THAT 1,000-FOOT BUFFER.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD BE NEAR IMPOSSIBLE FOR TO US EXPAND THE CURRENT LOCATION WITHOUT SOME VARIANCE FROM THAT 1,000-FOOT BUFFER WITHOUT HAVING TO COMPLETELY RELOCATE THE ENTIRETY

OF THE FACILITES. >> I WAS WONDERING IF THE APPLICANT SINCE THERE IS A FOCUS ON THE ITALIAN RESTAURANT, I WAS WONDERING IF THE APPLICANT KNEW WHAT THE BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT IS DIRECTLY ACROSS TO THE EAST A1A AND WEST NORTHWEST OF THE PROPOSED NEW BUILDING FOR SECOND THROUGH FIFTH GRADERS.

DO YOU NOAH THAT ESTABLISHMENT IS?

>> YES, I BELIEVE THAT -- TO THE IMMEDIATE EAST OF THE PROPERTY IS ANOTHER RESTAURANT. OASIS RESTAURANT.

TO THE EAST AND HERE. BASED ON THE DISTANCES WE BELIEVE IT IS OUTSIDE THE 1,000-FOOT BUFFER ALTHOUGH IT'S

RIGHT ACROSS A1A THERE. >> D I DO NOT THINK IT'S MORE TN 1,000 FEET AWAY AND THEY MOST CERTAINLY EVERYBODY IS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FROM AT LEAST NOON ON. I WISH IF PETER IS THERE IF HE COULD DO A MEASUREMENT MEASUREMENT ON THAT AERIAL PHOTO JUST TO GIVE US THE ACTUAL MEASUREMENT OF HOW MANY FEET THAT IS OASIS FROM THE SCHOOL. I'D BE APPRECIATIVE.

>> ARE YOU QUALIFIED TO MAKE SUCH A MEASUREMENT?

>> I MAY OR NOT BE. IF I MAY ANSWER THE QUESTION.

THAT IS WITHIN THE 1,000-FOOT DISTANCE.

HOWEVER IT CONTAINS 150 SEATS AND IS MADE UP OF 2500 SQUARE FEET WHICH ACCORDING TO OUR CODE WOULD MAKE THAT COMFORT FROM THAT SEPARATION AS WELL AS ANY RETAIL SALES OF BEER AND WINE WITHIN THAT 1,000-FOOT WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT INCLUDE THE WALGREENS TO THE NORTH. THOSE ARE EXCEPTIONS FOUND IN

OUR CODE. >> GO AHEAD.

>> I SAID THANK YOU. I WAS THANKING FOR THE

INFORMATION. >> LET ME COME BACK TO YOU

DR. MCCORMICK. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. SO THE EXISTING BUILDING, IS THAT GOING TO BE THE NEW PART OF THE EXPANSION THE NEW SCHOOL OR DEMOLISHED AND IS A NEW SCHOOL GOING TO BE BUILT THERE?

>> THE EXISTING BUILDING WILL BE RENOVATED.

IT WILL NOT BE DEMOLISHED BUT RENOVATED.

>> IS THAT UNDER OWNERSHIP OF THE OASIS RESTAURANT?

>> NO. THE EXISTING BUILDING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW

PORTION CORRECT? >> YES.

>> THE HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW PORTION HAS BEEN PURCHASED BY THE APPLICANT, IT WILL NOT BE DEMOLISHED BUT RENOVATED.

>> I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE INTERCONNECTIVITY.

YOU HAVE THAT PARCEL THERE AND THEN IT CONNECTS WITH LA STRAD DA RESTAURANT AND ALL OF THE SHOPPING THERE.

I THINK THERE IS A SURF STORE AND OTHER STUFF THERE.

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>> YES, THAT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY ALONG THE LINE OF A1A THAT IS THERE A CONNECTION BETWEEN THOSE TWO PORTIONS THERE, YES, SIR.

>> OK, THANK YOU. >> DR. MCCORMICK.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK THAT THE ISSUE ABOUT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN LA STRADA RESTAURANT AND THE SCHOOL AS IT IS GOING TO BE EXTENDED HAS PRETTY MUCH HAS BEEN ADEQUATELY ANSWERED BY THE APPELLANT -- BY THE PROPOSAL IN TERMS OF WHETHER THAT IS A POSITIVE PROPOSAL TO BE APPROVED.

SO HAVING SAID THAT, I WOULD BE READY TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS. IS.

>> WE'RE NOT QUITE READY. >> ARE THERE SPEAKER CARDS?

>> THERE ARE. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER KATE BET IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. >> MY NAME IS KATE BET SELL.

13 SEA OAKS DRIVE ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH, FLORIDA.

I WANTED TO SPEAK AS A PARENT ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL AS WELL AS A RO TARN. I BELONG TO THE CITY ROTARY CLUB. WE HAVE A GROUP AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHICH WORKS WITHIN ROTARY.

IT'S A PROGRAM FOR YOUNG STUDENTS TO GET INVOLVED WITH ROTARY. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL WAS THE COMMUNITY SERVICE THAT THE SCHOOL HAS DONE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAT IT'S BEEN OPEN IN THE FIRST BUILDING. THEY HAVE DONE MULTIPLE BEACH CLEANUPS IN ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH. WE'VE DONE MULTIPLE FOOD DRIVES FOR THE ST. FRANCIS HOUSE. TOY DRIVES FOR TOYS FOR TOTS THROUGHOUT COMMUNITY. WE'VE DONE OR OWN PRIVATE DRIVES FOR OTHER SCHOOLS AND COAT DRIVES AS WELL AS A LOT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE. IN A WORLD ORGANIZATION WE JUST WORKED CLOSELY WITH FLAGLER HOSPITAL AND BAILEY GROUP TO RAISE MONEY TO FACILITATE THEM BUILDING A MEDICAL FACILITY IN THE BAHAMAS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS SCHOOL DOES PROMOTE IS COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND WORKS WITH THE STUDENTS TO WORK ON COMMUNITY SERVICE.

AS A PARENT THERE, THAT'S A BIG BENEFIT TO MY CHILDREN.

ST. AUGUSTINE IS MY TOWN. I LOVE IT HERE.

I WANT THEM TO BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF WHAT MAKES IT GREAT.

I WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE A VOICE AND THEY ARE THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THIS TOWN SO WONDERFUL AND SUCH A GREAT PLACE

TO LIVE. >> THANK YOU.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY COMING IN BY TELECOMMUNICATION, SPEAKERS?

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THEN I WILL NOW SEEK A MOTION

FROM THE AGENCY MEMBERS. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, DR. MCCORMICK.

LET ME ADD TO THE LAST COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE.

THERE WAS A LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY GINA DIESEL AND IT WAS A VERY POSITIVE LETTER IN TERMS OF THE SCHOOL.

IT TENDED TO AFFECT TO SOME EXTENT MY JUDGMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION OR REQUEST.

AND THEREFORE I STILL -- I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING VARIANCE 2020-12 SUBJECT TO 7 CONDITIONS AND FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND ANYONE? >> I'LL SECOND.

>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND A SECOND.

LET'S SEE I WILL GO ON WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE.

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>> YES. >> NO.

>> YES. >> YES.

THAT IS THREE YESES TO TWO NOES. TABLE MOTION PASSES.

I BELIEVE THE MOTION PASSES. LET'S GO ON TO THE SECOND ITEM.

RELATED TO THE SAME ISSUE. 2020-09 ISLAND PREP ELEMENTARY

EXPANSION. >> TO THE BOARD THROUGH CHAIR, THANK YOU AGAIN, THIS IS A RELATED APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. WE APPRECIATE THE VOTE ON THE VARIANCE. IN ORDER TO OPERATE THE SCHOOL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CODE, WE WOULD NEED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ENSURE THE PROPOSED STRUCTURES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSE AND THE CLASSROOMS THERE MEET WITH CURRENT CODE REGULATIONS. I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK TO ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. IN THE INTEREST OF THE BOARDS CONSIDERATE TIME, MOST OF THE SAME COMMENTS WOULD APPLY TO THE

FIRST APPLICATION PRESENTED. >> THANK YOU.

>> ARE THERE SPEAKER DISREGARDS. >> THERE WAS JUST ONE.

>> MR. CHAIR, MAY I ASK FOR COMMENT RECESS BEFORE THE AGENCY

>> WE JUST NEEDED TO CHECK A PROCEDURAL RULE.

WE FOUND BOARD'S DECISION 3-2 VOTE STANDS AS AFFIRMATIVE VOTE.

THANK YOU. >> WE'RE BACK IN SESSION.

I'M GOING DO A ROLL CALL FOR ANY FURTHER COMMENTS JUST TO BE SURE WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THAT AND THEN I'LL ASK SEPARATELY FOR A

MOTION. >> THE VARIANCE GRANTED I'M

GOING TO VOTE YES -- >> ANY COMMENTS? I HAVE NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

>> I HAVE NO COMMENTS. ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION. >> VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.

I THINK THIS IS A GOOD FIT. I'M EXCITED TO SEE IN THIS TIME THAT THIS COOL IS EXPANDING IN LIGHT OF WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE SCHOOLS. I T THINK THIS IS GREAT.

THEY DO A LOT IN THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO THE EIGHT CONDITIONS AND FINDING OF FACT AS PROVIDED

IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> I'LL SECOND.

>> THANK YOU. I WILL GO DOWN THE THE ROLE FORL

CALL VOTE. >> YES.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> YES. >> YES.

THAT'S 5-0. MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU. MOVING ON THE ITEM NUMBER 3.

[3. REZ 2020-10 215 State Road 206 East.]

MR. KELLY, ARE YOU WITH US? >> I AM.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 3. IT IS REZ2020-10, 215 STATE ROAD 206 EAST. A REQUEST TO REZONE LAND FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY RS2 WITH CONDITIONS TO OPEN RURAL OR TO ALLOW FOR AGRICULTURE TYPE USES.

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M HEAR FOR THE REZONING REQUEST AS JUST READ. GUYDOWN HAVE A POWER POINTFUL IT'S 7.92 ACRES. EAST OF U.S. 1 ON AND THIS IS U.S. 1 IS, NOT A1A ON STATE ROAD 206 EAST.

THAT WOULD APPROXIMATE THE INTERSECTION THERE.

AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT. THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS VACANT. THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST HAS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THE PROPERTY DOWN TO THE THIS AREA IS ALSO VACANT BUT IT'S PART OF A CHURCH AND VACANT IN THE REMAINDER OF HERE. MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PARTICULAR LOT HERE IS ON THE NORTHERN SIDE.

ACROSS THE STREET THERE IS A STORAGE FACILITY THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A HELPFUL EXHIBIT JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA.

IT DOES GIVE YOU IDEAS OF THE OTHER TYPES OF SIZES OF THE PROPERTIES IN THE AREA. THE FIVE ACRES TO THE EAST AND SOUTHEAST THERE, IS 10.96. TO THE SOUTH THERE IS A 33-ACRE PIECE THAT RUNS ALL THE WAY TO U.S. 1.

AND TO THE NORTHWEST THERE IS THE COMMERCIAL AREA THAT IS UP IN THIS PARTICULAR. SO IT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA THAT IT'S SIMILAR SIZE, NOT LIKE IT'S A LOT OF SMALLER USES.

ACTUALLY THE SUBDIVISION HERE, THOSE ARE ONE ACRE LOTS ALSO EVEN FARTHER OVER THAT ARE ALSO DEVELOPED UNDER OR.

FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE THIS IS RESIDENTIAL B.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT ALSO HAS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST AND THEN RURAL TO THE SOUTH.

CURRENT ZONING IS RS2 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY WITH CONDITIONS. THE CONDITIONS REALLY AREN'T RELEVANT ANYMORE. THEY HAD TO DO WITH A DEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTY THAT WOULD HAVE INCLUDED A LOT MORE OF THIS PARTICULAR AREA AS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT JUST INDICATED THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN REZONED TO REMOVE THE CONDITIONS.

THE REQUESTED ZONING IS OR AND AGAIN ADJACENT ZONING IS A BIT OF A GRAB BAG. THERE IS COMMERCIAL BUT THERE IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF OR. THIS IS RESIDENTIAL ABOVE AND THERE IS -- THE AREA ZONING AS I MENTIONED COVERS THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS. THIS IS A LITTLE FARTHER OUT SO YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH OF THE AREA IS OR ZONING OR RESIDENTIAL ZONING AS WELL. AND I DID DO JUST A FEW PICTURES IN CASE SOMEBODY DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO GET THERE.

THIS IS ACROSS FROM THE SITE LOOKING EAST ALONG STATE ROAD 206. THIS IS LOOKING EAST FROM THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THIS SITE.

YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THE SELF-STORAGE ACROSS IS THE STREETED. THIS IS TO THE NORTH ACROSS 206 AND THAT'S SELF-STORAGE THAT IS THERE.

AND THAT WOULD APPROXIMATE LOOKING TOWARDS THE U.S. 1 INTERSECTION. IT IS NOT USED.

THIS IS THE ENTRANCE, THEIR ENTRANCE DRIVEWAY TO THE SITE.

YOU CAN SEE THE POSTED SIGN AS WELL.

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THAT IS THE ENTRANCE GATE. YOU CAN SEE THIS ENTRANCE DRIVEWAY THIS GOES DOWN THROUGH THE AREA.

AND THAT IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AS YOU GO DOWN.

I BROUGHT THESE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA.

DO I HAVE IT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO LOOK AT IT.

IT WAS IN YOUR PACKAGE, YOUR STAFF REPORT.

BASICALLY BECAUSE OF THE OUTLINE THE WAY THAT THE SITE IS, THEIR HOME IS BACK IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA AND THEY REALLY JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS AREA FOR HORSE AND OTHER TYPE OF AGRICULTURE ACTIVITIES. AND THEY DON'T PLAN ON DOING ANYTHING -- [INAUDIBLE] WE FEEL THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA. SIMILAR LOTS IN THE AREA.

MUCH OF THE SAME ZONING TYPE. WE DO HAVE A CHURCH AND THIS IS COMPATIBLE THE CHURCH WHEN YOU TALK ALMOST 8 ACRES FOR ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME. AND ALSO THAT SAME ZONING AND THEN RS LAND USE TO THE SOUTH. WE FEEL THIS WON'T HAVE ANY UNREASONABLE INCOMPATIBLE IMPACT ON THE AREA OR IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE TRAFFIC OR CAUSE ANY KIND OF PUBLIC NUISANCE. IT'S JUST TO CHANGE FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS ALREADY THERE.

IT'S CONSISTENT THE GOALS, POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMP PLAN AND WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND WE WOULD REQUEST YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AS I SAID BOTH WILLIE AND DAG ARE HERE TOO. LET ME ASK FIRST FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO THE BOARD MEMBERS AND ASK FOR

THEIR CONCERNS AND COMMENTS. >> WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD.

MR. JERRY GARDNER. IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. >> JERRY GARDNER, 245 WILDWOOD DRIVE ST. AUGUSTINE FLORIDA. MY CONCERN -- I DON'T EVEN REALLY KNOW IF I HAVE A CONCERN. BUT IF THIS PROPERTY WHERE IT'S LOCATED, IF THEY JUST WANTED TO GET A HORSE, THEY COULD GET A HORSE RIGHT NOW AND PUT IT ON THAT PROPERTY.

THERE IS NOBODY ELSE AROUND THEM.

I WOULD THINK. EVEN THOUGH IT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL. IT'S OUT IN THE COUNTRY.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT TYPE OF -- IF THEY ARE GOING TO DO ANY TYPE OF FARMING , WHAT TYPE OF FARMING THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOING. BUT I DON'T REALLY HAVE A CONCERN. I'M THE SENIOR WARDEN AT CHRIST OF KING CHURCH AND OUR PROPERTY ABUTS THEIR PROPERTY.

AND AS LONG AS THERE IS NO FERTILIZERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT COULD LEECH INTO OUR PROPERTY, IT REALLY DOESN'T MAT TORE US IF YOU CHANGE IT OR NOT. BUT IT JUST SEEMS IF A PERSON WANTS TO GET A HORSE, THEY COULD GET A HORSE.

THEY LIVE OUT IN THE COUNTRY. THANK YOU.

>> LET'S DO TWO THINGS. FIRST IF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THE COMMENTS, LET'S DO THAT IN THAT ODOR.

>> JUST TO ANSWER SOME OF HIS QUESTIONS, THERE ARE A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS THAT GO IN WHEN YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND AGO ZONING AS TO HORSES AND HOW DISTANCE YOU HAVE TO SET YOUR FENCING BACK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE CRITERIA THAT THEY USED IN DECIDING THAT THEY WANTED TO DO THIS. WHEN IT COMES TO AGRICULTURE USING, THEY ARE NOT PLANNING ANY REMOVING EVERYTHING THAT IS THERE. IT'S THEIR HOME THAT IS THERE.

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NOT THAT THEY COULD NOT DO THAT UNDER THE RS.

IT IS A CONDITIONAL ZONING AND AGAIN, THEY JUST FELT THAT THEY WOULD BE BETTER SERVED BY HAVING THE OPEN RURAL ZONING.

WITH THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU ARE FINISHED.

THANK YOU. LET ME GO DOWN THE ROLL CALL VOTE. WE HAVE NO MR. SPEAKER CARDS.

I'LL GO DOWN TO THE AGENCY MEMBERS AND ASK FIRST FOR YOUR

COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK. >> NO QUESTIONS.

I THINK WE ALL SHOULD TAKE A BET AS TO HOW MANY PRONUNCIATIONS OF MY NAME WE HAVE BY THE END OF THIS.

>> I THOUGHT SOONER OR LATER SOMEBODY IS GOING TO RAKE ME OVER THE COLE FOR THAT. I THANK YOU AND GLAD WE GOT THAT

OUT OF THE WAY. >> PERHAPS IF I MESSED AROUND WITH YOUR NAME A LITTLE BIT MR. MOTOVINO WOULD FEEL BETTER.

NEVER MIND ON THAT. YOUR COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSAL

BEFORE US. >> YOU ARE MESSING AROUND WITH OUR ATTORNEY'S NAME AS WELL EVEN THOUGH HE SPELLS AT THIS TIME WRONG WAY COMPARED TO ME. I'M NOT GOING TO BE OFFENDED TO YOU USING MY NAME IS WAY DID YOU.

THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, I HAVE NO COMMENTS AND NOTHING ABOUT EX

PARTE. >> THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE NO EX PARTE TO DECLARE AND I HAVE NO COMMENTS OR

QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE NO COMMENTS AND NO EXPAR TOE DECLARE.

>> I HAVE NO COMMENTS. LET'S MOVE ON FOR A MOTION.

>> DID WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE PHONE SYSTEM? I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE SIGNALING AT.

>> DID WE HAVE COMMENTS ON THE PHONE?

>> I HAVE NO REGISTER OF COMMENTS WAITING ON THE PHONE.

I CAN'T SEE ANYONE BEHINDTA GLASS OVER THERE.

>> THEY USUALLY WALK OUT. >> THAT'S THE RIGHT ANSWER.

LET'S GO -- THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FUNNY.

DOES ANYONE HAVE A MOTION? >> I HAVE A MOTION.

>> GO AHEAD. >> MY MOTION IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZ2020-10- 215 STATE ROAD EAST.

REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 7.92 ACRES OF LAND FROM RESIDENTIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY RS-2 WITH CONDITIONS TO OPEN RURAL OR BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF

REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECT TO PRONUNCIATION OF YOUR LAST NAME AS WELL.

LET'S GO DOWN THE ROLL TO VOTE FOR THIS PROPOSAL.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> I VOTE YES. THE MOTION PASSES ALL YES.

THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4.

[Items 4 & 5]

>> SO IT APPEARS THAT ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE WILL BE PRESENTED

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TOGETHER. >> YES, SIR.

>> >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

I HAVE PREFERRED TO TAKE THE MOTIONS ONE AT A TIME FOR THE

TWO ITEMS IS THAT ACCEPT UNTIL. >> THAT IS ABSOLUTELY ACCEPTABLE AND PORTFOLIO. I WOULD NOTE ALSO THAT PAR AT THE COMMUNICATIONS SHOULD BE DISCLOSED IF THERE ARE ANY FOR

THIS MATTER. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER.

LET ME GO DOWN THE ROLL CALL EX PARTE.

>> YES I DID HAVE EX PARTE WITH AVERY SMITH ON BOTH ITEMS WE HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION ON TUESDAY WHERE SHE ANSWERED SOME QUESTIONS I HAD ABOUT THE LOCATION OF THIS PROPOSED COMMERCIAL AND WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF THE

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. >> YES.

I ALSO HAD EX PARTE DISCUSSIONS WITH SMITH BOTH ON ITEMS FOUR AND ITEMS FIVE AND SHE ANSWERED QUESTIONS FOR ME AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. >> YES.

I DID HAVE EX PARTE COMMUNICATION.

>> YES MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAD EX PARTE AS WELL.

I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ELLEN AVERY SMITH ON ITEMS FOUR AND

FIVE EARLIER TODAY. >> I ALSO DID HAVE A TELEPHONE CONVERSATION. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. ELLEN AVERY SMITH ROGERS TOWERS 100 WET STONE PLACE IN ST. AUGUSTINE.

WITH ME TODAY ARE CODY HUDSON AND JOHN MET CALF FROM THE HUDSON COMPANIES WHICH IS THE OWNER AND DEVELOPER OF THE SILVER LEAF PROJECT. AND THE PROJECT TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER AND PLANNER RESPECTIVELY.

THEY ARE PART OF THE BACKUP TEAM TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THAT I CAN'T ANSWER FOR YOU.

SINCE WE HAVE SOME NEW BOARD MEMBERS, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY OF SILVER LEAF.

SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD LONGER THAN OTHERS.

SILVER LEAF HAS BEEN APPROVED BY ST. JOHNS COUNTY SINCE 2006 AND INCLUDES 8300 ACRES. WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL THE MAIN PORTION OF SILVER LEAF LIES HERE.

YOU SEE THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY WHICH WILL BIFURCATE IT THIS WAY. COUNTY ROAD I9.

210 AND SILVER LEAF PARKWAY. DOWN COUNTY ROAD 16A.

THIS IS WHAT IS CALLED THAT IS IN THE SILVER LEAF DRI.

THIS IS THE SILVER LEAF PUD PROPERTY AS WELL.

THEN YOU HAVE THIS LITTLE PIECE OFF STATE ROAD 13 AND 244 THAT IS THE GRAND WEEK PUD BUT IS ALSO PART OF THE SILVER LEAF DRI. JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS ARE RESIDENTIAL B IN THIS AREA FOR GRAND CREEK.

AND THEN YOU HAVE A VARIETY OF LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, YOU SEE RESIDENTIAL C FOR A MAJORITY OF SILVER LEAF WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS WILL BE AND MIXED USE DISTRICT WHERE A LOT OF THE NONRESIDENTIAL WE'RE TALK ABOUT TODAY IS.

YOU'LL NOTE BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN PUBLIC INTEREST ABOUT THIS PROPERTY THAT IS RURAL CULTURE. THAT IS NOT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. A LOT OF THAT PROPERTY IS UNDER CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND THERE HAS BEEN INTEREST FROM RESIDENTS TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH WITH RESPECT TO THIS PROPERTY.

I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT UP FRONT.

GOING TO THE ZONING AND SINCE 2006, THIS PROPERTY HAS A MAJORITY THIS PROPERTY THERE HAVE BEEN LANDS ADDED TO SILVER LEAF SINCE THE BEGINNING INCLUDING BRAND CREEK AND OTHER LANDS. BUT THE EXISTING ZONING IS PUD.

THE LAST AMENDMENTS TO THE PUD AND DRI WERE LAST YEAR.

AND THEN LOOKING AT THE APPROVED DRI MASTER PLAN.

LOOKING AT GRAND CREEK AND THEN A MAJORITY OF SILVER LEAF, YOU SEE THE TOWN CENTER AREA. YOU SEE WHERE THERE CAN BE MIXED USE AREA WOULD BE. THEY ARE IN THE VARIOUS PARCELS AND WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS WOULD TUCK IN AND GOING TO THAT LARGE PRESERVE AREA THAT ABUTS THE CASCADE AS WELL AS OTHER COMMUNITIES, ST. JOHNS GOLF AND COUNTRY CLUB AND OTHERS YOU SEE PRESERVE AREAS ON THIS MAP. THE APPROVED PROJECT JUST BY WAY

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THAT INCLUDES 3900 MULTIFAMILY UNITS AND 6 6800 MULL SINGLE FAMILY UNITS. 300,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE AND 330 SQUARE FEET OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SPACE.

THAT IS WHAT HAS ALREADY BAN PROVED BY THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND THIS BOARD IN THE PAST. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY IS BASICALLY TO ADD SOME MORE NONRESIDENTIAL SPACE TO THE ALREADYSED DEVELOPMENT LAND WITHIN SILVER LEAF.

SO IN RED HIGHLIGHTED ON THIS MAP IS WHERE THE PARCEL CHANGES ARE OCCURRING. YOU SEE THE SCHOOL SITE HAS CHANGED CONFIGURATION SOME ALONG WITH THIS COMMUNITY SITE, PARK SITE. AND THEN YOU ALSO SEE AREAS WHERE THE MIXED USE DISTRICT HERE AND HERE, HERE AND DOWN HERE ARE CHANGING. AND SO IF YOU GO AND LOOK AT THESE BASICALLY JUST RECONFIGURING SOME OF THE USES, THAT'STA PROVED PLAN. AND THEN GOING AGAIN TO MOVING AROUND SOME OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THESE PROPERTIES.

YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THAT SILVER LEAF JUST BEGAN ITS DEVELOPMENT RECENTLY. THE FIRST RESOURE ARE MOVING IN NOW. IT'S STELLARLY VACANT.

THE MASTER DEVELOPER HAS CONSTRUCTED SILVER LEAF PARKWAY ALL THE WAY THROUGH. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN A LITTLE WHILE. HERE AGAIN SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DC E RI MODIFICATION AND PING UD MODIFICATION.

THE ONLY PUD THAT IS BEING MODIFIED IS THE SILVER LEAF PUD WITHIN THIS PORTION OF THE D RI. THE SAME MAP CHANGES IN THIS AREA AND THEN DOWN THROUGH SOME OF THE MIXED USED PARCELS IN THAT AREA. THE PROPOSAL IS TO INCREASE THE RETAIL COMMERCIAL FROM 1.1 SQUARE FEET TO 2 MILLION SQUARE FEET. INCREASE OFFICE FROM 300,000 SQUARE FEET TO 650,000 SQUARE FEET.

ADD 300,000 SQUARE FEET OF HOSPITAL SPACE BECAUSE THERE IS A HOSPITAL PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN THE DRI ALREADY.

TO INCORPORATE LEGISLATIVE CHANGES THAT ARE PERMITTED BY FLORIDA LAW TO REVISE THE LAND USE IY LEARN STABLINGS TO REFLECT THE INCREASES IN THE NONRESIDENTIAL USES AND PROVIDE THE FAZING TABLE TO ADDRESS SAME CHANGES.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY THESE CHANGES WE THINK ARE NECESSARY.

YOU'LL RECALL BACK IN THE DAY THERE WAS NO OUTER BELTWAY AND THE ALIGNMENT EVEN IN RECENT YEARS WAS NOT KNOWN.

AND SO NOW THE ALIGNMENT OF THE OUTER BELTWAY HAS BEEN SOLIDIFIED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS AND IT WILL COME RIGHT THROUGH SILVER LEAF. THE DEVELOPER HAS ALREADY CONSTRUCTED THIS SEGMENT OF SILVER LEAF PARKWAY DOWN TO HERE. AND THEN ALSO DOWN IN THIS AREA.

AND ITS DEDICATED THE RIGHT OF WAY HERE TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF 2209 DOWN TO IGP HERE.

THIS SEGMENT OF 2209 IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE WORLD COMMERCE CENTER DRI. THIS ROADWAY SEGMENT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED. THIS ROADWAY SEGMENT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED BOTH ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

THIS WILL BE AN INTERSECTION THAT WILL BRING A LOT MORE NONRESIDENTIAL THAN WAS ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED.

AND SO THAT COUPLED WITH THE FACT THERE ARE GOING TO BE 10,700 RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN SILVER LEAF, THAT WILL GENERATE MORE THAN MEETS. AND SO AGAIN GOING TO THE SCHOOL SITES THAT HAVE BEEN DEDICATED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, THIS ONE AND THIS ONE AND THIS ONE. THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE.

FOR THE SCHOOL MITIGATION, NO CHANGES IN THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS. AND THESE ARE THE PODS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE BEGINNING OF SILVER LEAF.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTIAL PODS IN THESE AREAS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND YOU SEE THAT SILVER LAKE DRIVE. AND YOU SEE DR. JOHN'S PARKWAY GOING THROUGH PROPERTY THAT HAVE ALREAY BEEN CONSTRUCTED.

AND THAT FILLS IN WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE.

AND WITH THAT BEING -- I DO WANT I THINK I INCORRECTLY IDENTIFIED

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I HAVE BACKUP ON THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT OR TRAFFIC OR PLANNING OR WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS.

THANK YOU. >> NO COMMENTS.

>> YOU DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY I PRONOUNCED YOUR NAME.

THERE IS NO REASON TO NOT ANSWER.

>> I DO HAVE SEVERAL COMMENTS AND I SAID THESE THINGS TO ELLEN AVERY SMITH. I'M CONCERNED THAT AND I HOPE AND PRAY THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN BUT GIVEN THE CURRENT COVID-19 PANDEMIC, I'M REALLY HOPING THAT OUR SOCIETY AND CULTURE DOESN'T CHANGE RADICALLY WHEN THIS IS FINALLY OVER.

BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT GIVEN CURRENT TRENDS THAT ARE ALREADY UNDER WAY OF PEOPLE TELECOMMUTING TO WORK, ORDERING MATERIALS, SUPPLIES, FOOD EVEN ONLINE THAT THE NEED FOR OFFICE SPACE AND COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL SPACE ARE GOING TO BE LESS IN THE FUTURE. AND I JUST THINK THAT NEARLY DOUBLING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF APPROVED RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL DOUBLING THE OFFICE USE SPACE SEEMS EXCESS TOW ME.

IVE TO ME. THAT'S MY OPINION.

IT'S UNWARRANTED TO APPROVE SUCH HUGE INCREASES AT THIS TIME.

I THINK WE HAD ONE RECENTLY BY DURBIN I DON'T SAYING WHERE SOME OF THE WHAT WAS CONSIDERED -- YOU CAN CORRECT ME THE I'M WRONG, EXCESS COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE SPACE WAS CONVERTED BACK INTO RESIDENTIAL UNIT. I'M AFRAID HAD COULD OPEN THE DOOR TO FUTURE CHANGES OF THIS APPROVED SPACE IF IT'S NOT UTILIZED. IF IT CHANGES CONSUMER HABITS AND WORK HABITS IT COULD BE CHANGED BACK TO RESIDENTIAL AT SOME POINT IN TIME. I'M ALSO VERY CONCERNED ABOUT 2125 ADDITIONAL NEW EXTERNAL PEAK TRIPS THAT BOWLED GENERATED WOULD BEGENERATED FROM THIS. I HEAR ALL THE TIME ABOUT HOW BAD THE TRAFFIC IS. PEOPLE JUST TO THE NORTHEAST OF THIS DEVELOPMENT ARE ALREADY COMPLAINING OF TRAFFIC THAT THEY ARE DEALING WITH. AND THIS IS GOING TO END UP POTENTIALLY PUTTING MORE TRAFFIC RIGHT BY THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

SO I'M NOT OPPOSED AT ALL TO THE HOSPITAL.

IT'S HARD TO VOTE AGAINST THE HOSPITAL.

I CERTAINLY LIKE AND EMBRACE HOSPITALS AND THEY ARE NECESSARY. MY FATHER WAS A MEDICAL DOCTOR.

HE HELPED FOUND A HOSPITAL IN MIAMI IN THE 1950'S CALLED NORTH SHORE HOSPITAL. SO I'M ALL FOR THE HOSPITAL AND WOULD BE GLAD TO VOTE IN FAVOR IF IT WERE JUST THE HOSPITAL BEING PROPOSED HERE. GIVEN ALL THE OTHER CONCERNS I OUTLINED PARTICULARLY THE TRAFFIC.

I JUST -- I CAN'T SEE MY WAY CLEAR TO VOTE FOR THIS ITEM.

I SAID ALL OF THAT TO ELLEN AVERY SMITH PREVIOUSLY.

I'M JUST GETTING IT ON THE RECORD NOW.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO DIRECT SOME RESPONSES TO THAT AS I DISCUSSED WITH DR. HILLSEN BECK YESTERDAY A COUPLE OF COMMENTS FOR THE BOARD AND PUBLIC. A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE, AGAIN, THIS PLAN HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME WITH THE OUTER BELTWAY AND 2209 COMING RIGHT THROUGH SILVER LEAF.

THAT WAS NOT ANTICIPATED WHEN SILVER LEAF WAS PREVIOUSLY

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THERE IS A NEED JUST BECAUSE OF THIS INTERCHANGE ALONE FOR ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR NONRESIDENTIAL.

I'LL ALSO ADD THAT BAPTIST HOSPITAL HAS PURCHASED PROPERTY IN SILVER LEAF AND NEEDS HOSPITAL SQUARE FOOTAGE WHICH IS WHY WE'RE ADDING THAT. THERE WILL BE MEDICAL OFFICE THAT WILL BE GENERATED THROUGH THE HOSPITAL USE.

AGAIN THAT IS THE REASON TO ADD THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR OFFICE.

AND THEN COMMERCIAL EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GOING THROUGH WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH WITH COVID, THAT HASN'T STOPPED PUBLICS AND LOCAL ESTABLISHMENTS AND NATIONAL ESTABLISHMENTS FROM DOING BUSINESS. PEOPLE STILL NEED PLACES TO SHOP, DINE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS AGO ALONG WITH LIVING IN A COMMUNITY THAT IS GOING TO HAVE ALMOST 11,000 HOMES.

WE WANT SILVER LEAF TO BE A SELF-CONTAINED PROJECT WITH RESPECT TO THE EXCHANGE OR RESIDENTIAL UNITS, IF YOU LOOK AT EXHIBIT TWO TO THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER, THERE IS A MINIMUM MAXIMUM TABLE. AND THE MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY UNITS IN THAT IS NOT CHANGING. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PULL ONE OVER BY SAYING WE'RE GOING TO ADD GHOST SQUARE FOOTAGE AND CONVERT TO RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THAT'S NOT PERMITTED.

WE LEFT THE TABLE THE SAME. THERE CAN'T BE CONVERSION TO MORE RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAN ALLOWED IN THE EXISTING APPROVED DRI. I'M GOING TO ASK MR. MET CALF TO COME UP AND ADD ANYTHING HE WANTS.

HE HAS DONE A THOROUGH ANALYSIS AND THEY CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THIS DEVELOPER HAS SPENT UP FRONT TO BUILD FOUR LANE ROADS FOR THE COUNTY'S TRANSPORTATION

SYSTEM. >> JOHN MET CALF, HUDSON COMPANIES. I THINK YOU GOT IT.

THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS HAVE REALLY SOLIDIFIED IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. IN 2006 WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS, THE COUNTY COMMISSION WAS THEY ALWAYS SPOKE ABOUT WANTING NONRESIDENTIAL. BUT THE PRICE FOR ADDING NONRESIDENTIAL TO YOUR PROJECT WAS EXTREMELY HIGH.

AND AT THE TIME 9B WAS IN THE EARLY PLANNING STAGES.

IT WAS NOT FUNDED OR KNOWN OR WHEN IT WOULD EVER BE BUILT.

THAT WAS COMPLETED IN 2018. IT INTERSECTS 2209.

THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT WAS WORKING ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT.

I THINK THEY HAD 7 DIFFERENT ROUTES PLANNED.

ONE OF WHICH WOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH SILVER LEAF.

IT WAS UNKNOWN APPROXIMATE OR WHEN IT WOULD BE BUILT OR WHEN IT WOULD BE BUILT. COUNTY ROAD 220 HAS BEEN CONTEMPLATED SINCE THE BEGINNING.

AND WE HAVE BUILT 22 -- WE BUILT FOUR MILES OF FOUR LANE COUNTY ROAD 2209 WITHIN A SIX LANE RIGHT OF WAY AND WE DID THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS , THE EARTH WORK FOR SIX LANES, BUILT FOUR LANES AND THEN SILVER LEAF PARKWAY ANOTHER TWO AND A HALF MILES OF FOUR LANE ROAD. WE BUILT SIX MILES OF FOUR LANE ROAD THROUGH HEART OF THE PROJECT.

THERE WILL BE AN INTERCHANGE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY STARTS IN 2023 NOW IF NOT SOONER.

MOST IMPORTANTLY THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS GIVEN A CLEAR SIGNAL THEY WANT TO ENCOURAGE NONRESIDENTIAL SO THEY LIFTED THE REQUIREMENTS FOR NONRESIDENTIAL.

THE NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET -- HOW MANY SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL ACTUALLY CAN BE BUILT IS UNKNOWN.

ANYBODY HAS TO SAY IT'S UNKNOWN. IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE MARKET. WE CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE TO BUILD AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO. BUT WHEN THIS COMMUNITY STARTS TO MATURE AND WE HAVE 8 OR 10,000 HOMES IN IT AND FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY IS UP AND RUNNING AND ALL THESE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS ARE RUNNING, THIS NOW IS JUST A WONDERFUL IDEAL LOCATION FOR THE NONRESIDENTIAL.

AND IF THERE IS A DROP IN THE DEMAND FOR VISITING RETAIL

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BUT THERE MAY NEED TO BE WAR HOUSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE DEMAND IF AND WHEN IT COMES.

AND SO THAT IS WHY WE'RE HERE NOW.

ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.

I THINK ELLEN GHOS GOT MOST OF . >> WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED, THE ROUTE FOR THE FIRST COAST BELTWAY EXPRESSWAY AND 2209 WERE KIND OF IN LIMBO ON WHEN AND WHERE THEY WOULD BE BUILT. WITH THEIR CONSTRUCTION THE FIRST COAST BELTWAY FOUR LANE DIVIDE ADDS 60,000 DARES A DAY CAPACITY TO THE REGION AND COUNTY ROAD 220 IS A FOUR LANE ADDS 40,000 CARS A DAY CAPACITY TO THE REGION.

SO WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE CAPACITY THAN WAS ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED FOR. AND WE SPENT ABOUT $78 MILLION ON BUILDING IT AND WE WOULD LIKE TO USE OUR SHARE.

SO WE HAVE A DIRECT CONNECTION TO I95 LONG THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY. ANOTHER DIRECT CONNECTION GOING UP 2209. THIS ANY INCREASE IN TRAFFIC WON'T IMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THEY GO DIRECTLY THROUGH THE INTERSTATE SYSTEM WHICH HAS BEEN EXPANDED AND I95 PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BEING EXPANDED FROM SIX LANES TO TEN LANES.

THE SMALL INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH THE INCREASE IN RETAIL THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES TO

ACCOMMODATE THAT. >> WOULD YOU STAY THERE JUST FOR A MOMENT? I HAVE A QUESTION.

THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY IN THAT AREA.

YOU'VE COVERED A GREAT DEAL OF THAT.

TRAFFIC, SCHOOLS, OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, SUMMARIZE FOR US AMONG THE THREE OF YOU IF YOU WOULD PRIMARILY NEGATIVE IMPACTS

ON THAT COMMUNITY IN THAT AREA. >> I'LL LET JEFF TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC AND I'LL TALK ABOUT SCHOOLS AND UTILITIES.

>> AS I STATED BEFORE NOW WE HAVE BETWEEN WHEN SILVER LEAF WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED AND NOW WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER AMOUNT OF AVAILABLE CAPACITY WITH THE FIRST COAST BELTWAY W THE TEN LANE SECTION ON I95 WHICH WILL BE GENERAL PURPOSE LANES INSTEAD OF TOLL LANES AND THE FOUR LANE 2209 GOING UP TO STATE ROAD 9B. AND THEY ARE CONNECTING 295 AND 95. THERE IS A OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF AVAILABLE CAPACITY THAT WASN'T ENVISIONED WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY DONE. AS FAR AS THE TRANSPORTATION WE'RE ANYWAY LOT BETTER SHAPE THAN WE WERE WHEN THE PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY CONCEIVED AND APPROVED.

>> THE TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR SILVER LEAF DRI. GOING TO SCHOOLS, WE'LL TALK ABOUT UTILITIES. FOR THE SCHOOLS AGAIN THESE SITES HAVE BEEN DEDICATED. THEY ARETH ONES IN PURPLE ON THIS MAP HAVE BEEN DEDICATED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.

HIGH SCHOOL AND THESE TWO SCHOOLS ARE I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THEY ARE ELEMENTARY OR K-8. THIS IS HIGH SCHOOL AND THOSE TWO SITES HAVE BEEN DEDICATED. THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT SEEKING TO ADD ANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO THE PROJECT.

SO THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND STUDENTS HAS BEEN MITIGATED. THERE WERE PREVIOUS APPROVALS FOR THE DRI AND PUD FOR SILVER LEAF.

>> THE UTILITIES THERE IS NOT MUCH TO SAY.

WE'VE HAD A UTILITY SERVICE AGREEMENT IN PLACE WITH THE COUNTY SINCE 2007. I BELIEVE IT WAS 2007 WE CONVEYED 52 ACRES TO THE COUNTY UTILITY FOR THE NORTHWEST WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANT WHICH HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED.

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AND WILL CONTINUE TO RUN THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.

BACK TO THE SCHOOLS. OUR TOTAL SCHOOL MITIGATE DEVIATION PACKAGE IS $112 MILLION.

OF THAT $1 MILLION WORTH OF REAL ESTATE HAS BEEN CONVEYED.

ONE HIGH SCHOOL SITE 105 ACRES AND TWO K-8 SITES.

ONE IS CLOSE TO 40 ACRES AND SOMEONE 26 ACRES.

AS WE GO THROUGH EACH RESIDENTIAL UNIT WILL PAY ALMOST $8,000 IN A PAYMENT IN LIEU OF THE SCHOOL IMPACT FEES.

AND THEN WITH THE ADDITIONAL OF NONRESIDENTIAL, IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER IT GETS BUILT OR NOT. BUT THE MORE NONRESIDENTIAL THAT GETS BUILT THE BIGGER IS TAX BASE WHICH IS WHY THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ENCOURAGED IT.

IT WOULD BE A FINANCE FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IF IT GOT BUILT.

>> DO YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS? >> NO.

I WANT TO GO FURTHER DOWN LIST. >> NO COMMENTS.

>> I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENT. DO WE HAVE SPEAKER DISREGARDS.

>> WE HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS. >> DO WE HAVE ANY

TELECOMMUNICATION COMMENTS? >> NO.

>> LET'S SEE THEN THE NEXT ITEM I CAN ASK FOR WITH THIS ITEM IS

A MOTION ON THIS ITEM FIVE. >> IT'S 4.

>> ITEM 4. A MOTION.

>> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF DRI MOD2020-03 BASED ON FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT.

>> SECOND. >> I'LL GO DOWN ROLL CALL VOTE.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> NO. >> YES.

>> YES. I THINK FRANKLY IN THE DYNAMIC AND THE INTERACTION BETWEEN COMMERCIAL PRIVATE SECTOR AND THE COMMUNITY AND THE TIME THAT PASSED AND AGAIN I'LL REPEAT THE WORD DYNAMIC NATURE OF THE PARK AN RESPONSE TO IT, THIS LOOKS PRETTY GOOD TO ME. THIS MOTION PASSES 4-1.

GOING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM WHICH S RELATED.

ITEM 5. ARE THERE ANYWAY DIVISIONAL COMMENTS THAT WE NEED TO HEAR ON THIS ITEM?

>> NO COMMENT BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO OFFER A MOTION.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU. I AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENTS.

I MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF MODIFICATION 2020-01

BASED ON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT. >> SECOND.

>> DID YOU VERY WELL WITH THE PRONUNCIATION OF YOUR LAST NAME.

YOU ARE TO BE ABROADED FOR THAT. LET'S GO DOWN THE ROLL CALL.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> NO. >> YES.

>> YES. THAT'S 4-1.

MOTION PASSES. I'M AN ENGINEER, YOU CAN'T COUNT

BETTER THAN I CAN. >> I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU WERE COUNTING THE ACTING CHAIR'S VOTE TWICE.

>> WE HAVE TWO ITEMS LEFT. LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE

[6. MAJMOD 2020-05 ICI Middlebourne.]

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>> THIS IS ITEM 6. THE FIRST THING LIED LIKE TO DO IS ASK BOARD MEMBERS FOR EX PARTE.

ITEM 6. >> I THINK MAYBE I BETTER GO DOWN ROLL TO BE SURE WE'RE ALL BACK.

>> MR. MATAV I NO. >> I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS ON TUESDAY WITH ELLEN AVERY SMITH BECAUSE I DIDN'T BAND IN WAS BEING ASKED. BUT DO I NOW.

>> >> I'M HERE.

>> EX PARTE? NONE ON THIS ONE.

>> YES, I DID HAVE EX PARTE COMMUNICATION WITH ELLEN AVERY

SMITH CONCERNING THIS PROJECT. >> NO EX PARTE.

>> I DISCUSSED THIS BRIEFLY. >> AND MR. CHAIR, WHEN THE AGENCY MEMBERS SAY DISCUSSED IT WITH ELLEN E ENAVERY SMITH OR THE APPLICANT, THAT ENTAILS DISCUSSING THE APPLICATION MATERIALS BASICALLY FAMILIAR ARTY.

THERE IS NO SORT OF SECONDARY OR DECISION MADE BEFORE ANY -- [INAUDIBLE] .

>> LET ME SEE. ALL OF YOU CAN HEAR ME.

ARE WE IN LINE WITH MR. MCCORMICK'S COMMENTS IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AND WHAT WASN'T DISCUSSED?

>> YES. >> YES.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> THANK YOU. >> AND I WILL ON THE REMAINING ITEMS AND THERE IS ONLY ONE ITEM, I'LL TRY TO COVER AND ASK YOU FOR THE NATURE OF YOUR COMMENTS WITH RESPECT TO THE EX PARTE. ITEM 6.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. FOR THE RECORD ELLEN AVERY SMITH, ROGERS TOWERS, 100 WET STONE PLACE IN ST. AUGUSTINE.

WITH ME TODAY FROM ICI HOMES IS DAVID, JAMES AND MIKE.

AND THEN OUR PROJECT TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER IS HERE FOR ANY TRANSPORTATION QUESTIONS.

AND VINCE STONE OUR PROJECT CIVIL ENGINEER IS ON THE PHONE AND I BELIEVE HE'S MONITORING SO WE CAN ASK HIM ANY QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO ENGINEERING THAT WE NEED TO COVER DURING THE HEARING. JUST BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, I WAS TEASING MR. MATAVINO BECAUSE SOME OF THE MAPS IN YOUR PACKET WEREN'T REALLY LEGIBLE ESPECIALLY IN SMALLER FORMS. SO IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO ASCERTAIN WHAT WE WERE ASKING FOR. AND SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT SLOWLY. THERE IS SOME HISTORY TO THIS PROJECT. SO IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME A LITTLE BIT. HERE IS RACETRACK ROAD.

VETERANS PARKWAY WHICH EXIST ONLY TO THIS POINT RIGHT HERE.

BETWEEN RACETRACK ROAD AND VETERANS PARKWAY EXIST.

DOWN TO 210 HAS NOT BEEN CONSTRUCTED YET.

WE'RE GOING TO GO DESPITE INTO THE DETAILS OF.

THAT I WANTED TO TO BE CLEAR THAT ICI OWNS AND RECENTLY PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY THAT IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW, THIS LITTLE TRIANGLE, THIS PROPERTY THE NORTHWEST SEGMENTS QUADRANTS AND THIS SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. A LOT OF THE APPLICATION DETAILS WE'RE ASKING TO CHANGE DEAL WITH THIS SOUTHWEST QUADRANT PROPERTY AND HOW TO GET ACCESS TO IT. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

ABOUT TWO YEARS TAG COUNTY COMMISSION VOTED TO APPROVE THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS OF MIDDLE BOURN TO RESIDENTIAL B AND THESE CORNERS TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. THERE IS ALSO A COMPANION

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THE PROPERTY WAS ALSO REZONED TO PUD IN 2018 FOR THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND SQUARE FOOTAGE OF NONRESIDENTIAL THAT I JUST STATED. AND SO AND THAT'S THE HISTORY I.

WANT TO GO BACK TO THE MAP TWO. THERE HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS WHO HAVE ASKED -- IT WILL BE MORE COLOR ON THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE LOCATIONS OF THE ON SITE WETLANDS THAT ARE BEING PRESERVED AND THE BUFFERS TO ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS N. OUR COMMUNITY MEETING WE HAD RESIDENTS WHO LIVED IN THE AREA PARTICULARLY OAK RIDGE LANDING THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR BUFFERING. WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT FROM WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED.

THE APPLICATION DOES SEEK TO REVISE CERTAIN ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. I'M GOING TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT IN A MINUTE. MAKE MINOR CHANGES TO THE RECREATION FAZING WITH RESPECT TO THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT TO PROVIDE OPTIONS FOR ROADWAY ACCESS TO THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT AND ADD A WE'VE SECTION T OF THE PUD TAX RELATED TO HOW WIDE AND HOW EXPENSE THEY'VE CONNECTOR ROAD WILL BE.

AND SO TO TALK YOU THROUGH THIS. I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THIS IS THE COVER PAGE.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY CHANGES TO THIS PARCEL , THIS PARCEL OR THIS PARCEL. NO CHANGES TO THE DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINTS OF ANY OF THEM. HERE ARE THE WETLANDS TO BE PRESERVED ALL IN THESE AREAS. WETLANDS TO BE PRESERVED.

SO THE SAME BUFFERING IN THESE AREAS WILL REMAIN.

THIS IS THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT OF THE PROPERTY.

SO THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE DETAIL AND SOME OF WHAT YOU COULD NOT SEE ON YOUR SMALLER MAPS.

SO THIS IS THE ECONOMISTING LONG LEAF PINE PARKWAY.

AND THIS WHAT IS PROPOSED TO BE THE NEW VETERANS PARKWAY.

A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. BACK SINCE 2004 THE RIVER TOWN PROJECT WHICH WAS THEN OWNED BY ST. JOE HAD AND STILL HAS THE OBLIGATION TO BUILD A FOUR LANE VETERANS PARKWAY FROM LONG LEAF PARKWAY SOUTH TO COUNTY ROAD 210.

THAT IS NOT REQUIRED TO BE DONE UNTIL THEY GET ALMOST 2400 UNITS CONSTRUCTED WITHIN RIVER TOWN. AND SO ICI HAS BEEN WORKING WITG WITH THE SUCCESSOR IN INTEREST TO ST. JOE AS THE MASTER DEVELOPER OF RIVER TOWN TO ARRANGE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A PORTION OF VETERANS PARKWAY. ALSO JUST BY WAY OF GIVING YOU MORE HISTORY SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, THIS PROPERTY WAS ALL OWNED BY RAIN EAR AS IT WAS PROPERTY IN THIS AREA WHICH IS NOW OWNED BY WCI. THAT GREENBRIER DOWNS PROJECT ALSO HAS AN OBLIGATION TO BUILD A PORTION OF THIS SEGMENT OF VETERANS PARKWAY. SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THIS SEGMENT OF VETERANS PARKWAY THAT IS TO BE CONSTRUCTED BY NOW THREE DIFFERENT PARTIES IS NOW OWNED B WCI AND SO ICI, MATMY AND LAMAR ARE WORKING ON COMING TO AN AGREEMENT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIRST MILE OR SO OF VETERANS PARKWAY IN A TWO LANE CONFIGURATION. WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT IS GOING TO OCCUR VERY SOON. IF IT DOESN'T, WE NEED A FALL BACK PLAN BECAUSE ICI DOES NOT OWN THAT RIGHT OF WAY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD VETERANS PARKWAY. IN COMES THE ALTERNATE.

AND THE ALTERNATE IS AND IT'S VERY HARD TO SEE ON THIS MAP.

USNEA THIS CONFIGURATION THERE IS I'M GOING TO CALL AT THIS TIME LONG LEAF PINE CONNECTOR ROAD HERE.

THIS IS A COMMERCIAL POD, THAT CORNER HAS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL LAND USE. THE INTENT WOULD BE AS A TEMPORARY FIX UNTIL VETERANS PARKWAY IS CONSTRUCTED TO BUILD WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL THE CONNECTOR ROAD WHICH WOULD BE AN EXPENSIVE AUTHOR ROWWAY ROAD THROUGH THIS PARCEL THAT WOULD PROVIDE TEMPORARY ACCESS INTO THIS RESIDENTIAL AREA UNTIL SUCH TIME AS VETERANS PARKWAY IS BUILT.

ONCE VETERANS PARKWAY BUILT, THIS F RIGHT HERE WOULD BE THE

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THIS E RIGHT HERE WOULD BE THE EMERGENCY ACCESS INTO THE AREA.

AND THIS CONNECTION INTO THE RESIDENTIAL WOULD GO AWAY.

ALL OF THAT DETAIL MR. DUNN PUT ON THIS PLAN BUT IT'S HARD TO SEE THAT. AND SO THAT IS THE WALK THROUGH OF THIS LITTLE ROAD. THE LONG LEAF PINE CONNECTOR.

WE HAVE ASKED FOR A WAIVER IN THE PUD BECAUSE THIS ROAD WILL HANDLE OR COULD POTENTIALLY DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF VETERANS PARKWAY, THIS LITTLE ROAD COULD POTENTIALLY HANDLE MORE THAN 211 UNITS OF RESIDENTIAL IN THIS AREA. WHICH UNDER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WOULD MAKE YOU BUILD IT TO A COLLECTOR ROAD STANDARD, NOT A LOCAL ROAD STANDARD. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS IN MY SPEAK BECAUSE I'M NOT AN ENGINEER.

IF WE WANT AN ENGINEER, HE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS.

WHAT THAT BASICALLY MEANS IS THERE IS A THINNER RIGHT OF WAY.

YOU STILL HAVE A TWO LANE ROAD WITH A SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE.

AS A LOCAL ROAD WHAT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IS IN ORDER -- IT WON'T BE A COLLECTOR ROAD THAT HAS A WIDER RIGHT OF WAY WITH SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDE OF THE ROAD AND A BIKE LANE.

WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO NOT HAVE TO SPEND EXTRA MONEY TO BUILD A COLLECTOR ROAD THAT WOULD INCLUDE A SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE AND A BIKE LANE. THAT IS THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A COLLECTOR AND A LOCAL ROAD BECAUSE EVENTUALLY THIS ROAD IS ONLY GOING TO EVERYBODY IS THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WHEN VETERANS PARKWAY IS CONSTRUCTED. THAT'S THE REASON WE'VE ASKED FOR HA WAIVER. AND AGAIN IF WE WANT HIM TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS OF COLLECTOR VERSUS LOCAL ROADS, WE CAN DO THAT BASENED THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THAT'S REALLY THE ACCESS ISSUE THAT WE'VE RUN INTO AND THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON THAT WE HAVE THIS MAJOR MODIFICATION GOING ON IS TO PROVIDE FOR THIS ALTERNATE ACCESS.

AND THEN ALSO JUST BASED ON STATE LAW AS YOU ALL KNOW THERE IS NO -- BASED ON THE CHANGES IN THE COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, YOU KNOW THERE IS NO LONGER TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION THAT IS REQUIRED FOR NONRESIDENTIAL PROJECTS.

SO THE 340,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE THAT IS IN THE CORNERS OF THIS PROJECT NO LONGER REQUIRES CONCURRENCE SI.

THEY WILL PAY IMPACT FEES AND THERE WILL BE SITE ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS. TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY AND MITIGATION IS NO LONGER REQUIRED.

SO THIS PROJECT AGAIN WHEN WE'RE GOING IN AND TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC, HOPEFULLY WILL BUILD OR HELP BUILD A SECTION OF VETERANS PARKWAY IN A TWO LANE CONFIGURATION GOING SOUTH AND WILL HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO FOUR LANE LONG LEAF LINE PARKWAY FROM VETERANS PARKWAY. SO THAT IS AN OBLIGATION THEY WILL HAVE UP FRONT. THAT CONSTRUCTION WILL OCCUR CONCURRENTLY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AREA WHICH WILL BE IN THE FIRST PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

>> WE'VE TALKED THROUGH ALL OF THESE POINTS THAT ARE ON THE SCREEN. AND WE DON'T HAVE -- WELL WE HAVE ONE OUTSTANDING COMMENT WITH STAFF AND THAT IS RELATED TO THE COLLECTOR ROAD VERSUS LOCAL ROAD FOR THIS LITTLE SEGMENT , THE LONG LEAF PINE CONNECTOR.

AND SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. THAT'S OUR ONE OPEN COMMENT ON THIS APPLICATION. IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE ENGINEER, HE CAN COME UP HERE AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER

QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> THANK YOU.

>> YOU ARE THE PLANNING REPRESENTATIVE FOR THIS ITEM IS

THAT CORRECT? >> YES, SIR.

I DID THE REVIEW OF THIS APPLICATION.

>> ANY COMMENTS? ONE ITEM LEFT OUTSTANDING AS I UNDERSTAND IT. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> IT'S A TRANSPORTATION COMMENT AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ON THE LINE.

>> GO AHEAD COMMENT PLEASE. >> WE HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE TEMPORARY CONDITION THEY ARE REQUESTING.

OUR ONLY ISSUE WAS IF VETERANS PARKWAY WAS NOT CONSTRUCTED , THIS IS OUTSIDE -- IT'S TO BE DONE BY OTHERS.

BUT I BELIEVE AS ELLEN STATED THEY ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE AND TO CONSTRUCT THE ROAD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THE THREE PARTIES THAT ARE

REQUIRED. >> THANK YOU.

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>> MR. MCCORMICK HAS BEEN HELPFUL IN THAT TOO.

RIGHT BEFORE THIS MEETING HE'S BEEN TRYING TO BRIDGE THIS GAP SO VETERANS PARKWAY CAN BE CONSTRUCTED.

>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO GO DOWN ROLL CALL TO SEE IF THERE ARE COMMENTS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

>> NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. >> NO COMMENT OR QUESTIONS.

>> THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD POSED TO ELLEN AVERY SMITH ON TUESDAY WHEN WE SPOKE HAVE NOW BEEN ANSWERED.

>> THANK YOU. >> NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

>> I HAVE NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

>> DO WE HAVE SPEAKER CARDS? >> WE DO NOT.

>> ARE THERE ANY TELECOMMUNICATION SPEAKERS?

>> I SEE NO CALL WAITING. I THINK WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION IF ANYONE WOULD CARE TO MAKE ONE.

>> THIS IS GREG. I'D MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF MAJOR MOD 2020-05 BASED ON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT AS

PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> LET'S GO DOWN ROLL CALL FOR A VOTE.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> YES. >> MOTION PASSES.

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WHAT I HEARD SOUNDED LIKE FEEDBACK ON THE SPEAKER.

>> I THINK YOU ARE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7.

>> I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS NOT HEARD.

WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER 7. BANNON LAKES.

IS THERE A PRESENTATION? >> LET ME STATE FOR THE RECORD.

THIS IS A POWER PLANT AMENDMENT. THERE IS NO REQUIRED QUASI JUDICIAL DISCLOSURE REQUIRED FOR THIS TYPE OF THING.

>> THANK YOU. >> SOMEWHAT GET MY ACT TOGETHER.

IT'S NEVER FULLY TOGETHER. I CAN ADMIT THAT ON THE RECORD.

AND FOR THE RECORD ELLEN AVERY SMITH.

AND WITH ME TODAY ARE ART LAN CAST FRESH EASTLAND DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS THE MASTER DEVELOPER OF THE PROJECT.

LYNN I DID AND JEFF WHICH ARE THE PROJECT PLANNER AND TRANSPORTATION PLANNER. SO AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THIS PROJECT AND THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING SO I'M GOING THE WALK THROUGH THIS AT A LITTLE BIT SLOWER MOTION SO WE CAN KIND OF EXPLAIN. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF COMMENT THAT HAS BEEN RECEIVED AND WRITTEN FORM.

I WANT TO TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. HERE IS A PRETTY PICTURE OF THE ENTRANCE INTO BANNON LAKES. JUST AS A WAY OF BACKGROUND, HERE IS INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY AND I95.

BANNON LAKES COME PRICES 580 ACRES AND IT'S LOCATED JUST EAST OF I95. HERE IS THE 12-MILE SWAMP JUST ON THE EDGE OF THE PROJECT. THEN MARKLAND COMMUNITY IS TO THE SOUTH. THE PROJECT HAS A MIXED USE FEATURE USE DESIGNATION. THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE MIXED USE DESIGNATION ALLOWS UP TO 13 UNITS PER ACRE.

AND IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR A VARIETY OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES, OFFICE

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SO BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY AND INTENSITY OF USES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN THE MIXED USE LAND USE CATEGORY, BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THERE WAS STILL SUCH A THING AS DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT WHICH WENT AWAY ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO AS AN OPERATION OF FLORIDA LAW. THIS AFTERS PROVED IN 2015 WHEN THERE WAS A DRI. WE PUT THIS PLACE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT AMENDMENT THAT LIMITED THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE UPLAND PORTIONS OF THIS PROPERTY TO 999 UNIT. AND THAT COULD BE SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY. WE JUST LEFT IT AT 999 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. AND THEN 105,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE AND 15,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE.

THAT'S WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR BANNON LAKES FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS. WE ALSO WENT THROUGH 12015 AND REZONED THE PROPERTY TO PUD. SO THAT IS THE EXISTING ZONING.

AND THE MASTER DEVELOPER HAS ALREADY CONSTRUCTED THE REQUIRED WIDE FRANK TWO LANES TO FOUR LANES OF INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY FROM THE FOUR LANE PORTION ALONG IGP ACROSS FROM THE ENTRANCE FROM FRANCIS ROAD. WHICH ALSO INCLUDED THE CONSTRUCTION OF LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES INTO THE PROJECT.

THAT MEANS THE WIDENING OCCURRED IN THIS AREA.

AND IT BENEFITED BOTH BANNON LAKES AND THE PROJECT ACROSS THE LAKES. BANNON LAKES DEVELOPER IS STILL PRESERVING THE 180 ACRES OF WET LANS WITHIN THE PROJECT BOUNDARIES. THEY ARE UNDER CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND ADJACENT TO THE 12-MILE SWAMP.

THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS PROPOSAL THAT SEEK TO DEVELOP ANY PORTION OF THAT 180-ACRE WETLAND AREA THAT IS UNDER CONSERVATION EASEMENT IN FAVOR OF THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PROJECT WILL REMAIN THE SAME. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO IS CHANGE THAT TEXT AMENDMENT CAP FROM 999 TO 1,286 UNIT IN ORDER TO PROVIDE MORE MULTIFAMILY UNITS WHICH WILL BE APARTMENTS AND SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE LOCATION.

AGAIN HERE IS THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THESE ARE THE WETLANDS THAT WILL REMAIN.

THEY ARE UNDER CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

HERE IS THE 12-MILE SWAMP. HERE ARE THE DEVELOPMENT AREAS.

NONE OF THESE DEVELOPMENT AREAS ARE CHANGING.

IN 2015 THIS PROPERTY COULD HAVE BEEN OFFICE MULTIFAMILY OR TOWN HOME. SO OFFICE COULD HAVE BEEN UP THIS FAR INTO THE COMMUNITY. WE HAD A RECREATION AREA, UTILITY AREA AND THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN OFFICE OR COMMERCIAL IN THIS PARCEL A. AND RESIDENTIAL FRONTING DOWN ALONG IGP. NOW WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO TAKE LEAVE THIS AREA RESIDENTIAL INSTEAD OF OFFICE UP INTO THE COMMUNITY. AND HAVE THIS PARCEL A RIGHT HERE BUT HAVE POTENTIAL TO BE MULTIFAMILY.

YOU WILL NOTICE THIS ROAD AND THIS ROAD PROVIDE BUFFERING FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY FOR THAT SITE.

THIS SITE VOWEL ITS OWN AMENITY SO THERE WOULD BE NO USE OF THE INTERNAL AMENITY BY THE MULTIFAMILY THAT COULD BE PLACED ON THIS PROPERTY. IT WILL HAVE ITS OWN AMENITY CENTER AND IT WILL NOT ACCESS THROUGH COMMUNITY.

IT WILL ACCESS ON GOLF PARKWAY HERE OR HERE.

THAT'S THE PROSE POD DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

WANT TO NOTE AS FAR AS SCHOOLS, THERE ARE 167 AGE RESTRICTED UNITS WITHIN BANNON LAKES. WE'VE AMENITIED THE SCHOOL PROPORTION OF SHARED AGREEMENT TO REFLECT THAT NUMBER OF AGE RESTRICTED UNITS WHICH ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SCHOOL MITIGATION BECAUSE SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LIVE IN THOSE UNITS BY DEED RESTRICTION.

THE NUMBER OF SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN GENERATED BY THE PROJECT WILL INCREASE SLIGHTLY BUT NOT BY 287.

IT WILL INCREASE BY 120 UNITS. AND THAT WILL BE THE ADDITIONAL SCHOOL MITIGATION WILL BE PAID FOR BASED ON A PROPORTION OF SHARE THAT WILL BE CALCULATED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THAT IS AS SCHOOLS. THE ADDITIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION LIKE I SAID WILL BE PROVIDED FOR THE PROJECT HERE.

IT WILL NOT USE THE AMENITIES WITHIN BANNON LAKES.

THAT IS WHAT A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE HERE, SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS RELATED TO THE USE OF THEIR AMENITY CENTER.

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OUR CLIENT SPENT ABOUT $5 MILLION IN FOUR LANING THIS SECTION OF INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY WHICH WAS MORE THAN HIS PROPORTIONATE SHARE. HE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AND THE

SAFETY ASPECTS ON TO THAT ROAD. >> BASICALLY TWO THINGS WITH TRAFFIC. NORTH OF THE EAST WEST ROAD, THERE IS NO CHANGES. NO CHANGES IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

NO CHANGES IN ANYTHING ELSE. THERE IS NO CHANGES IN THE TRAFFIC VOLUME THERE. ALL THE CHANGES THAT ARE OCCURRING ARE COMING FROM PARCEL A WHICH FRONTS DIRECTLY ON INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY. WE'VE COMPLETED A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, SUBMITTED IT TO THE COUNTY STAFF.

THEY SIGNED OFF ON IT. AND IT BASICALLY SHOWS BETWEEN WHAT WAS PROPOSED NOW IS AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 53 NEW TRIPS NET NEW TRIPS DURING THE AFTERNOON PEAK HOUR.

THE SIGNAL AT IGP AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS A 70 SECOND CYCLE.

YOU ARE LOOKING AT ONE TO TWO CARS EVERY CYCLE.

IT'S NOT A MASSIVE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPOSED CHANGE. THERE IS NO CHANGE IN TRAFFIC NORTH OF DID YOU RAN AND YOU ARE ONLY LOOKING AT ONE TO TWO CARS PER CYCLE DIFFERENT GOING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION ANOTHER IGP AND NORTH FRANCIS ENTRANCE TO THE PROJECT.

THERE WAS ONE OF THE LETTERS TALKED ABOUT WHETHER THEY CAN GET HAD AND OUT OF THE PROJECT ACROSS THE STREET.

ABOUT 53 CARS IS THE INCREASE. 90% COMES AND GOES TO I95.

10% TO THE WEST. YOU ARE LOOK AT FIVE CARS DURING THE AFTERNOON PEAK HOUR. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'LL

BE HAPPEN TOY TO ANSWER THEM. >> WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DESIGNS OF THE RESIDENTIAL AND BUFFERING.

SHE'S OUR PLANNING AND SHE SPEAKS EXPERT PLANNING.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. IS 4775 ROLL ON THE OBJECTION TEAM ROAD FOR THE RECORD. AND TO ADD ON IF YOU COULD STEP IN. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PLANNING AND COMPATIBILITY, WE DO LOOK AT THE LAND USE COLORS.

WHEN QUESTION THINK ABOUT THE LAND USE ON THIS MAP, THIS IS 1.

THAT IS AN IMPORTANT POINT THE THINK OF WHEN WE THINK ABOUT MODIFYING OUR SELF-LIMITED TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE ADDITIONAL UNITS. THIS MAP IS GOOD TO THINK OF WHEN WE THINK ABOUT DENSITY, WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVIDES. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT COMPARABLE DENSITIES IN THIS AREA AROUND THE INTERCHANGE, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE 13 DWELLING UNITS TO THE NET ACRE HERE.

WHAT YOU PLY THAT TO THE NET ACRE IT RANGES FROM THREE AND A HALF UNITS TO THE ACRE AND SOME FOR THE SITE TO THREE AND A HALF TO FOUR IN SOME OF THE OTHER PODS.

YOU SEE THIS RANGE AND THAT WOULD BE COMPABLE FOR WHAT WE HAVE ON THE SITE WHICH WOULD APPROXIMATE PARCEL A.

MARKLAND 1.6 DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE.

THEY ARE IN RESIDENTIAL C. THAT PROVIDES FOR A MAXIMUM OF SIX DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE. THAT'S THAT RANGE YOU SEE AROUND THE INTERCHANGE. THIS LITTLE SNIPPET THAT YOU SEE IS THE WORLD COMMERCE CENTER PROJECT.

IT'S A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT AROUND THE INTERCHANGE AND PROVIDES FOR A DENSITY OF FIVE AND A HALF DWELLING UNIT TO THE NET ACRE. YOU START TO SEE THESE CLUSTERS AROUND MAJOR TRANSPORTATION INTERCHANGES WHERE WE PUT IN UNITS AND INTENSITY AT A HIGHER RATE.

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PARCEL A IS ENTIRELY ISOLATED BY THE ROADWAYS.

IN ADDITION TO HAVING THAT ROAD SEPARATION, AND THE SEPARATION BETWEEN UNIT TYPES, WE ALSO HAVE A SETBACK ADMINISTRATION.

THAT'S WHAT FOLKS TALK ABOUT WHEN YOU INTRODUCE MULTIFAMILY PRODUCT NEXT TO SINGLE DETACHED PRODUCT.

I'M AVAILABLE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

AND WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD HAS AND THAT THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> LET ME GO DOWN ROLL CALL HERE AND WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THOSE QUESTIONS FIRST. AGENCY MEMBERS IF YOU HAVE

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

>> NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.

>> I THANK YOU FOR GETTING MY NAME RIGHT.

>> I'M WORKING ON IT. >> IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT.

IN ANY EVENT I DID TELL ELLEN AVERY SMITH WHEN WE DID SPEAK AND EX PARTE IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THI ITEM.

BUT I DID TELL HER I WAS NOT A FAN OF WHEN THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS WAS AT STAND. I DID NOT LIKE THE DEVICE OF AVOIDING A CIRCUMVENTING A DRI REVIEW 999 UNITS AND THEN POSSIBLY COMING BACK LATER AND AMENDING THAT TO INCREASE THE NUMBER WHICH IS BASICALLY THE WAY I VIEW THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE. IF I'M INCORRECT, PLEASE CORRECT ME. BUT ADDING ANOTHER 287 NEW HOUSING UNITS SEEMS TO ME -- [INAUDIBLE] I WAS WONDERING THERE IS A STATEMENT IN THE ITEM UNDER SCHOOL CONCURRENT STAY SAYS MITIGATION MAY BE REQUIRED BUT CAN'T BE OBTAINED UNTIL PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.

WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS ITEMS IN THE PAST IN THE SIX OR 7 MONTHS I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD WHERE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT A PROJECT WILL GENERATE PER NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS IS GIVEN.

AND THAT NUMBER IS LACKING FOR THIS APPLICATION.

AND I KNOW SHE MENTION AID PORTION OF BANNON LAKES IS GOING TO BE 55 AND OVER COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO THE CONCURRENCY OF SCHOOL TAXES. BUT THE THIS IS MY FIRST REAL QUESTION. ARE THE NEW MULTIFAMILY UNITS OR APARTMENTS, ARE THOSE ALSO DEED RESTRICTED? IF NOT THEN I ASSUME THAT THEY WILL HAVE SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN IN THEM. AND THEN JUST SPEAKING OF HIGH SCHOOLS, NOT ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS OR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, BUT JUST HIGH SCHOOLS, I WAS WONDERING AND I ANSWERED THIS QUESTION MYSELF BUT I'LL GO OVER IT FOR YOU, I WAS WONDERING WHAT HIGH SCHOOL THIS COMMUNITY BANNON LAKES WAS ZONED FOR.

FOUND OUT THAT IT IS INDEED ZONED FOR NIECE HIGH SCHOOL.

AND I LOOKED AND IN EACH IS OVER 900 STUDENTS OVER ITS CAPACITY.

AND EVEN WITH THE HHH SCHOOL THAT IS BEING BUILT , WHAT THAT FINALLY OPENS, THAT WILL ONLY LOWER NIECE DOWN TO ABOUT 400 STUDENTS OVER CAPACITY. ABOUT 2450 STUDENTS TOTAL.

RIGHT NOW IT'S AT 2888 STUDENTS. IT'S WAY OVER CAPACITY.

AND EVEN WITH THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL IT WILL STILL BE OVER CAPACITY. I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON TRAFFIC.

BUT I'M GOING TO LET THOSE PASS. STILL A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF BANNON LAKES IS GOING TO BE AS THEY COME OUT AND TURN LEFT AND HEAD EAST DOWN NINE MILE ROAD AND GO THROUGH 12-MILE SWAMP. THAT IS A CONSTRAINED ROAD

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SO I WAS INCLINED TO NOT EMBRACE THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.

BUT ONCE I READ THE 100 OR SO PAGES OF LETTERS THAT WE HAD RECEIVED FROM RESIDENTS BANNON LAKES THAT WAS A MAJORITY ACROSS THE ROAD IN MARKLAND BEING ADAMANTLY AGAINST THIS WHERE MANY OF THE LETTERS CLAIMED THE RESIDENTS WERE TOLD WHEN THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOUSES THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY ADDITIONAL BUILDING OR PARTICULARFULLY TERMS OF MULTIFAMILY UNITS OR APARTMENTS.

APPARENTLY THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE AND THE LETTERS HAVE BEEN WRITTEN THAT THEY CAN SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES THERE.

BUT THEY BRING UP A LOT OF ISSUES, PROPERTY VALUES, TRAFFIC, AMENITY OVERUSAGE THAT'S BEEN PARTIALLY ANSWERED TODAY. THAT THERE WILL BE OTHER AREAS BUILT FOR THAT. AND IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES, PARTICULARLY WHERE SOME HOUSES THAT BACKED UP TO CONSERVATION AREAS OR GREEN SPACE WERE SOLD AT A PREMIUM AND THEN THAT MAY BE TAKE AN WAY. SO I DO HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THIS. YOU CAN ANSWER MY COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SCHOOL CONCURRENCE SI IF YOU WANT TO.

BUT I THINK GIVEN THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE AND THEIR OPPOSITION OF THIS, AND QUITE A LARGE NUMBER OF THEM, I DON'T SEE HOW I CAN SUPPORT THE ITEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >> IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN I ADDRESS THE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS HE ASKED JUST BRIEFLY?

>> YES. >> BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE ST. JOHNS DRI.

BACK IN 2013 AND 14 WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT BANNON LAKES WE ORIGINALLILY TRIED TO ADD THIS PROPERTY INTO THE BOUNDARIES OF THE ST. JOHNS DRI FOR TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION BECAUSE THIS DRI HAS ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN BUILT TODAY. A STAND ALONE PROJECT OUTSIDE OF THE DRI OR OUTSIDE OF THE ST. JOHNS DRI TO TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION.

MY CLIENT DID NOT MIND MAKING $5 MILLION IMPROVEMENTS TO GOLF PARKWAY TO OFFSET THE IMPACTS FROM HIS DEVELOPMENT.

WE DID NOT HAVE THE PROJECT IN THE DRI AND WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT. WE PUT A TEXT AMENDMENT IN PLACE ON A MIXED USE. THIS IS THE S THE TEXT AMENDMENT IN PLACE THAT TALKS ABOUT RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

THE PUD WHICH IS A COMPANION SO THIS APPLICATION IS NOT ON THE FLOOR TODAY BECAUSE THIS IS A TRANSMITTAL HEARING FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. EVEN AS FAR BACK ADDS 2014 AND 15 THIS PROJECT INCLUDED MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

SO THE 2015PUD AND ALL THE AMENDMENTS INCLUDING THIS ONE THAT IS PROPOSED TODAY HAS SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED MULTIFAMILY UNITS, APARTMENTS, TOWN HOMES AND DUPLEXES IN BANNON LAKES.

I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE A PROJECT THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A MIXED USE NATURE BECAUSE OF THE MIXED USE LAND USE DESIGNATION. THAT WAS DONE AGAIN MANY CONJUNCTION WITH THE COUNTY PLANNING AND TO PROVIDE A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES AND AFFORDABILITY.

BECAUSE WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH AFFORDABILITY OF HOUSING IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS ADDING ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY UNITS TO GO ON THIS PROPERTY THAT WILL BE BUFFERED FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY THAT ALREADY EXIST WITHIN BANNON LAKES.

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BUT THE SCHOOL BOARD REZONED SCHOOLS EVERY YEAR.

AND SO WE DON'T KNOW TWO OR WHATEVER YEARS FROM NOW WHEN THESE UNITS ARE CONSTRUCTED, WHAT HIGH SCHOOL THOSE KIDS WILL GO TO OR MIDDLE OR ELEMENTARY WITH RESPECT TO THAT.

I DID WANT TO POINT OUT ON THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN WE HAVE THE ONE IN HERE FROM 2015. YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE WETLAND PRESERVATION. YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT AREAS THAT WERE PROPOSED AND APPROVED IN 2015.

NOTHING WITH RESPECT TO THOSE DEVELOPMENT AREAS VERSUS WETLAND AREAS IS PROPOSING TO CHANGE. SO THE DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

AND HE JUST MENTIONED IN HIS TESTIMONY AS THE TRAFFIC EXPERT THAT ABOUT 90 PERSONS OF THE TRIPS OUT OF THIS PROJECT WILL GO WEST TO I95. ONLY 10% WILL GO EAST THROUGH NINE MILE SWAMP. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I WANT TO THANK ALL THE FOLKS WHO ARE PARTICIPATING WHO TOOK THE TIME TO WRITE US AND COME DOWN HERE TO SPEAK. I MAKE THIS TRIP TWICE A DAY SO I UNDERSTAND ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

WE'VE GOT MARKLAND AND BANNON LAKES, WE HAVE A BUCK KEYS GAS STATION COMING. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA, A LOT OF CONGESTION. A LOT OF MY CONCERNS , THE AMENITIES WAS ADDRESSED , THE SCHOOLS WAS ADDRESSED.

THEY ADDRESSED THE TRAFFIC. I THINK IT'S 53 TRIPS ADDITIONAL. I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IT BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE FOLKS AS WELL.

>> PUBLIC SPEAKERS. >> STAFF RECOMMENDED WE DO THE PHONE SYSTEM FIRST. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE

PHONES. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M JUST CHIMING IN HERE. MY SUGGESTION IS YOU LET THE STAFF HANDLE IT IN TERMS OF LINING THEM UP SO THAT WE CAN GET THEM HEARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. >>

>> WE HAVE EVERYBODY LINED UP BACK THERE.

HAND OFF THE PHONE. I HATE TO SAY IT THAT WAY.

WE HAVE EVERYBODY READY BACK THERE.

WE WILL PATCH THEM THROUGH. >> AND THEY CAN HEAR US WHEN WE

SPEAK? >> YES, SIR.

WHEN WE PATCH THEM THROUGH, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TALK TO THEM.

YOU'LL HEAR A DOUBLE BEEP. >> HOW MANY CITIZENS ARE ON THE

PHONE? >> RESIDENT CANNILY THERE ARE TWO. BUT THERE MAY BE MORE.

>> LET THEM KNOW THEY HAVE THREE MINUTES.

>> THAT'S YOUR JOB SIR. >> OK.

>> THEY WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU.

>> >> SOMEBODY WAS SCRATCHING

PAPERS OR SOMETHING. >> NO.

THAT'S NOT ME. I GOT A BUNCH OF LADIES OVER HERE. BUT I'M NOT SCRATCHING PAPERS.

>> DO I TIME THEM HERE? >> YOU NEED TO TIME THEM.

>> LET'S SEE. IF WE'RE ON THE TELEPHONE I'M NOT SURE WHICH BUTTON TO PUSH OR IF I NEED PUSH ANY BUTTON.

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>> STAFF WILL DO THAT. IT MAY BE HELPFUL FOR THE SPEAKER ON THE PHONE IF YOU CAN'T SEE THE TIME CLOCK IN FRONT OF THE CHAIR, YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE YOUR OWN TIMER GOING SO YOU CAN PACE YOURSELF TO THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. >> WE'LL GO AHEAD.

IS THERE A SPEAKER ON THE PHONE FOR ITEM 7, BANNON LAKES? LET GO WITH THE PRESENT CITIZENS.

>> WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. NATHAN CRUTCH FIELD.

>> YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> MY NAME IS NATHAN CRUTCH FIELD. 74 ALMOND POINT ST. AUGUSTINE FLORIDA. I'M HERE TODAY ASKING TO YOU OPPOSE THE PROPOSED PLAN. LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENTATION HERE SOME OF IT WAS PRESENTED ONLINE, SOME WAS INCLUDED ON THE BANNON WEBSITE. ACCORDING TO THE TABLE ONE BANNON LAKES DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE , THE PROPOSAL WILL SCOPE IN 70 TOWN HOMES OR CONDOS IT WAS INITIAL PLAN.

THIS IS BEING CHANGED TO 280. GENERALLY TOWN HOMES ARE LONGER TERM DRONES SI VERSUS APARTMENTS BEING SHORTER TERM, OR REVOLVING DOOR. LESS STAKE FOR OCCUPANTS WITH SHORTER TERM RESIDENCY FOR LONG TERM COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY. AND THE CONCERN THERE IS REALLY NOT ONLY BANNON LAKES BUT SOME OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS AS WELL. WE THIS WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR PROPERTY VALUES AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED.

BANNON LAKES RESIDENTS THAT I SPOKE WITH, MANY OF THEM DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS. THERE WAS A LAST MINUTE SPRINT TO GET THE WORD OUT. LET FOLKS KNOW HOW THE IMPACTED THEM. ROAD SEGMENTS WITHIN THE PROJECT IMPACT AREA ARE CLASSIFIED AS DEFICIENT OR TOO SMALL ACCORDING TO THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS PUT IN HERE.

THESE STUDIES LEAVE ROOM FOR MARGIN OF ERROR.

I SEE MENTION OF SOME OF THE TRAFFIC ANALYTICS BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING REFERENCES PARKLAND PRESERVE.

ON THEIR WEBSITE IT'S GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL 472 RESIDENTS THAT HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN POPULATED YET.

SO THERE IS CONCERNS WITH THAT. ADDITIONALLY SOME OF THE RAMP MODIFICATIONS UNDER WAY WITH BUCCEES THAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK DONE FOR RAMPING PEOPLE ON AND OFF THE RAMP.

BUT THERE IS REALLY NO MATERIAL DATA TO SUPPORT HOW THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY. THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH THE TRAFFIC COMPONENT THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER.

IN ADDITION TO THE NINE MILE ROAD THAT LEADS OUT.

THE OTHER PIECE IT WAS AMENITY. I REALIZE THAT THE NON-CITY ARE GOING HAVE THEIR OWN AMENITIES. THERE ARE 85 SINGLE FAMILIES HOMES IN THERE AS WELL THAT WILL IMPACT THE USAGE.

>> NEXT SPEAKER IS ALLEN MCCOWAN.

>> I'LL PASS. >> JAMES BARRETT.

>> I YIELD. >> -- MAD I DID.

>> IT'S MARTY. 127 ARTIST OAKS COURT.

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I DO TAKE EXTREME ISSUE IN REGARDS TO THE TRANSPORTATION.

THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE IS NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE INGRESS AND REGRESSION OF HOW THESE PEOPLE WILL BE COMING FROM THIS PROPOSED PARCEL A, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE DIRECTLY TO IGA OR OFF OF BANNON LAKES. WE ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM RIGHT NOW AT THE WENDY'S TRAFFIC LIGHT WITH PEOPLE MAKING U TURNS.

THERE IS NOT A DIRECT APPROACH INTO THE WENDY'S TO GET FOOD.

THERE IS IF YOU GO FURTHER DOWN. THAT WOULD BE AN IMPACT AND THIS IS SEVERAL ACCIDENTS WAITING TO HAPPEN WHICH IN TURN IS GOING TO IMPACT THE TRAFFIC THERE. ALSO WHAT IS NOT BEING CONSIDERED IS WITHIN THE BANNON LAKES DEVELOPMENT, FARTHER DOWN THE ROAD THERE IS ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE COMING IN. I'M NOT SURE IF THE NUMBER OF THOSE HOMES. WHEN THOSE HOMES ARE BUILT OVER THE NEXT TWO, THREE, FOUR YEARS, THAT IN TURN IS GOING TO ADDRESS AND BRING MORE PEOPLE COMING KIND OF NOT UNDERSTANDING IS JUST A MOMENT AGO WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SILVER LEAF YOU WERE ALL FOR MEDICAL BUILDINGS COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND ALL OF THIS WHICH IS GREAT. SO IF PARCEL A IS A MIXED USE PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHERE IS THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT IS BEING BUILT? WHERE IS THE RETAIL? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A WENDY'S.

THAT'S IT. ACROSS THE STREET IS TWO GAS STATIONS, ONE WHICH HOUSES A PIZZA PLACE.

SO AGAIN, I WANT TO YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT WE HAVE WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO FOR US BUILDING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IS NOT WHAT IT IS. IT IS GOING TO DEVALUE THE PROPERTIES. IN TIME IT IS GOING TO BECOME AN EYESORE AND THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE WHEN THEY DRIVE BY WHICH IS GOING TO DEBEAUTIFY HAD AREA THAT WE'VE ALL WORKED SO HARD TO MOVE TO AND WANT TO KEEP UP.

NO MATTER IF YOU ARE IN THE 55 AND OVER OR IN THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR LISTENING

TIME. >> SARAH LOVE VETTED.

I'D LIKE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER FROM SOMEONE AT THE MEETING THROUGH YOU MR. CHAIRMAN TO ELLEN AVERY SMITH AND OR THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE AFTER HER. I BELIEVE MRS. AVERY SMITH SAID THAT THE ENTRANCE TO THE APARTMENTS WOULD BE OFF OF IGP.

I COULD SWEAR I HEARD HER SAY THAT.

THEN THE GENTLEMAN SPOKE AND I BELIEVE THAT HE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE LIGHT THAT WAS AT THE ENTRANCE WHERE BANNON LAKES BOULEVARD IS. AND THAT THE TRAFFIC COMING FROM THE APARTMENTS WOULD BE SO MANY CARS PER HOUR.

HE'S SAYING THE PEOPLE FROM THE APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE COMING FROM THE APARTMENTS ON TO BANNON LAKES BOULEVARD AND OUT TO THE LIGHT. I'D LIKE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER FROM ONE OR BOTH OF THEM AS TO WHERE THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THESE APARTMENTS WILL BE. AND I KIND OF TAKE ISSUE WITH WHAT MRS. AVERY SMITH SAID ABOUT MIXED USE ALWAYS INCLUDED MULTIFAMILY IN THE PROPOSAL. IT ALSO ALWAYS INCLUDED RETAIL.

AND A LITTLE BACKGROUND HERE. A TENDED THE LAST CDD MEETING AND PEOPLE ON THE BOARD OF OUR CDD ACTUALLY ARE THE DEVELOPERS OF THIS PROJECT. AND THEY ACTUALLY SAID AT THIS MEETING THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INTEREST FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THE RETAIL BUSINESS. SO THEY CHANGED THEIR MINDS AND DECIDED TO GO WITH APARTMENTS. THAT'S THE BACKGROUND THERE.

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BUT THE MAJORITY OF OUR COMMUNITY ARE SINGLE RESIDENCES.

SO I THINK THERE WAS A LITTLE PLAYING ON SEMANTICS THERE AND I TAKE ISSUE WITH THAT. THANK YOU.

>> NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHAEL WEST. >> MICHAEL WEST 154 BRIDGE OAK LANE. I'M A RESIDENT AND HOA BOARD MEMBER OF BANNON LAKES. WHILE I RECOGNIZE THE DIFFICULTY DURING THIS TIME ANYWAY PANDEMIC TO PURSUE THE RETAIL BUSINESS THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN, I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OR HOW THE DEVELOPER HAS PURSUED GETTING ADDITIONAL RETAIL SPACE.

BUT SUBSTITUTING IT FOR ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS, WHAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED BRIEFLY BUT NOT DWELLED UPON IS PARKLAND PREFER AND THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT WILL COME WITH IT. LOOKING AT THE BUCEES AND THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON ON IGP , THE PLANNED EXPANSION OF I95 AND THE AVAILABILITY OR LACK OF AVAILABILITY OF RETAIL SHOPPING FOR THE RESIDENTS ON THE EAST SIDE OF I95, MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL GO DOWN NINE MILE ROAD TO DO THEIR SHOPPING OFF OF U.S. 1. SO THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD WILL SEE AN INCREASE. I CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT EVEN NOW DURING RUSH HOUR IT IS TRAFFIC.

I TAKE EXCEPTION TO THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERE WILL NOT BE SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT AS PART OF THE PLAN FOR PARKLAND PRESERVES THEY HAVE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. IN ADDITION TO THE 400 PLUS HOMES THEY ARE HAVING THERE IS GOING TO BE MULTIPLE FAMILIES THERE. I DO NOT -- [INAUDIBLE]

THANK YOU. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHAEL SHELDON AND IT SAYS YOU'LL BE PRESENTING PRINTED OR VISUAL MATERIALS TO THE BOARD AS WELL. YOU CAN USE THIS PODIUM AND PUT

IT ON THE OVERHEAD. >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL SHELDON.

I'M A RESIDENT OF BANNON LAKES. HOPEFULLY ADD A FEW NUMBERS.

PARKLAND PRESERVE 999 HOMES. BANNON LAKES CURRENT LY IS 450 WHICH WHAT IS PLANNED IS ADDITIONAL 450.

SO COMING DOWN BANNON LAKES ROAD, WE HAVE ISSUES ALREADY.

BUT WE'RE ONLY HALF THE SIZE. THE 999 PEOPLE OR HOMES THAT COME OUT OF PARKLAND PRESERVE, WILL ALL COME OUT ON THE WEST SIDE OF WHAT THEY THEREBY APARTMENTS.

THE REASON FOR PUTTING UP THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE IS THIS IS WHAT WE'VE SEEN. THIS I TOOK OFF THE WEBSITE JUST A DAY AGO. THIS IS WHAT WE SEE IS WHAT OUR COMMUNITY WOULD LOOK LIKE. FOR THOSE OF US THERE, THAT SMALL RETAIL PLACE WOULD MEAN A LOT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

TO SWAP THAT OUT FOR 280 UNITS WHICH IS GOING TO BE AT LEAST A THREE TO FOUR STORY UNIT PLUS PARKING FOR 150, 180 PARKING

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ONE OTHER THING. YOU DO HAVE THAT CONSTRICTION ON IGP. WE ARE STILL HAVING HUGE COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL THAT IS BEING BUILT JUST SOUTH -- JUST EAST OF THE PART OF BEAUTIFUL IGP.

SO IN ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE, I'VE NOT SEEN REALLY A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING AS TO HOW THAT IS GOING TO DO.

I AGREE MOST OF US WILL NOT GO WEST.

MOST OF US WILL GO TO VALENCIA TO DO OUR SHOPPING.

WITH THAT IN MIND, I STAND OPPOSED TO THIS RECOMMENDATION.

>> THANK YOU. >> I'LL TAKE THAT PHOTO AND PUT IT IN THE RECORD FOR YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS KAREN.

>> I'M KAREN. 75 ALMOND POINT BANNON LAKES.

THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK AND VOICE OUR CONCERNS.

I WANT TO START WITH THE FACT BRING OUT THE MAIN POINT THAT MOST PEOPLE THAT ALREADY LIVE IN A DWELLING IN BANNON LAKES PURCHASED THEIR HOMES UNDER THE INFORMATION THAT IT WAS A LIMITED SMALL COMMUNITY TO BE MAINTAINED AS A SMALL COMMUNITY WAY LIMITED CAPACITY. THEY SHOWED A PICTURE OF THE ENTRANCE WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL. IT SHOWS TREES BEHIND IT AND EVERYTHING. YOU DON'T SEE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE THERE IS TWO SIDES TO THAT ENTRANCE.

IF YOU BUILD AN APARTMENT BUILDING ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE PRETTY TREES BEHIND IT.

YOU ARE GOING TO SEE A LARGE HUGE APARTMENT BUILDING WITH A BIG PARKING LOT. THAT'S GOING TO BE THE NEW ENTRANCE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR HOME IT WAS BASED ON THAT KNOWLEDGE IT WOULD REMAIN A SMALL COMMUNITY. WE WERE TOLD BY THREE DIFFERENT REALTORS THERE WOULD BE NO APARTMENT BUILDINGS OR MULTIFAMILY HOMES OCCUPYING THAT ENTRANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE SPECIFICALLY ASKED THAT QUESTION TO THREE DIFFERENT BUILDERS IN THERE. WE WERE ASSURED IT WAS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL USE. BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BIG APARTMENT BUILDING AND A FEW COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

BIG DIFFERENCE. NOT TO MENTION THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE. AND THIS BUILDING WILL ALSO BE JUST STEPS AWAY FROM OUR JOGGING AND WALKING PATH WHICH IS OPEN TO THE AREA. SO THAT INCREASES THE TRAFFIC AND THE VOLUME TO THAT PATH WHICH LEADS DIRECTLY TO THE AMENITY CENTER. THERE IS A LOT OF AREAS OF OUR AMENITY CENTER THAT ARE NOT KEY ENTRY.

SO THERE IS NO WAY THAT THEY CAN GUARANTEE THAT THERE WILL NOT BE A HIGHER VOLUME AND USAGE AND WEAR AND TEAR ON OUR AMENITY AREA. BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY TO CONTROL THAT. IT'S OPEN.

THE ONLY NOTICE THAT THE RESIDENTS RECEIVED OF THESE PROPOSED CHANGES WAS A SMALL SIGN THIS BIG PLUCKED INTO THE GRASS AT THE ENTRANCE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION AND WHEN HE DID WE STARTED PASSING THE WORD F. YOU DO A CONSENSUS, I GUARANTEE YOU WILL FIND VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT OWN A HOME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE AGREEABLE TO THIS.

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING THAT WE THOUGHT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS GOING TO BE WHEN WE PURCHASE AID HOME IN THERE.

THESE ARE NOT INEXPENSIVE HOMES. IT'S A MAJOR PURCHASE IN LIFE.

ONCE THAT WORD WENT OUT AND EMAILS WEREN'T SENT WITHOUT THE NEGATIVE RESPONSE , THE CDD MANAGER SAID THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE AMENITIES. THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN

GUARANTEE THAT. >> WOULD YOU WRAP IT UP FOR US?

>> THAT WAS ALONG WITH WHAT EVERYBODY SELLS SAYING.

PLEASE CONSIDER WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE SAYING BECAUSE WE PURCHASED OUR HOMES THAT ARE COMPLETELY UNDER DIFFERENT

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS MIKE BARNS.

>> [INAUDIBLE] .

>> CHARLES. >> I'LL PASS AT THIS TIME.

>> THAT IS ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS HERE.

I THINK WE HAVE SOME ON THE PHONES.

>> HELLO. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN FOR HEARING OUR CONCERNS AND I DON'T WANT TO REITERATE A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAID.

I AM OPPOSED FIRMLY OPPOSED TO ADDING 286 MULTIUNITS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED 999 RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. THERE ARE PROPOSALS TO INCREASE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE PROPER PRESERVES.

THAT IS SLATED FOR TWO MORE COMMUNITIES.

THE TRAFFIC WILL BE ATRISHOUS. THEY ARE MAKING U TURNS ON INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY TO GO INTO WENDY'S AS SOMEONE PREVIOUSLY SAID THAT'S AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.

WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS IS THE RETAIL SPACE WITH LIMITED STORIES SO THAT APARTMENT BUILDINGS WHEN PROBABLY WILL BE MULTISTORIES PROBABLY TWO OR THREE WOULD BE THE FIRST THING YOU SEE. THE FACE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE COMPLETELY CHANGED WHEN YOU DRIVE UP TO BANNON LAKES.

A LOT OF MY CONCERNS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED.

SOME OF THE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.

I WANTED TO VOICE MY OPINION THAT I'M OPPOSED TO THE 286 MULTIUNIT IN THE BANNON LAKES COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MA'AM.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. PETER.

ADDRESS 156 PORTRAIT LANE ST. AUGUSTINE.

I WOULD KINDLY ASK PLEASE THAT THE BOARD CONSIDER DENYING THIS REQUEST UPWARDS OF 300 HOMES 300 MULTIUSE HOMES WOULD BE EXTREME HINDRANCE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SEVERAL CARS PER UNIT, MORE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT. I THINK THERE BEING APARTMENTS IS UNFORTUNATELY SOMETHING WE WERE NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO WHEN WE MOVED HERE FROM WASHINGTON, D.C. WHERE WE WERE GET AGO WAY FROM THAT. NOW THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE. IT VERY DISAPPOINTING.

IN ADDITION TO THAT THE WHOLE SITUATION WITH THE AMENITIES.

THE AMENITIES ARE ALREADY INUNDATED.

IF THERE IS ANY WAY THIS AREA COULD USE AMENITIES, IT'S GOING TO BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT SITUATION.

WE ALSO HAVE AN ELDERLY POPULATION THAT IS 55 AND OLDER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK IT WILL DETRACT FROM WHAT WE WANTED TO BE TO THE LIVE HERE IN BANNON LAKES.

THAT'S ABOUT IT. IF YOU COULD PLEASE CONSIDER OUR REQUEST. WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SIR.

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MRS. AVERY SMITH IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD.

>> THE DEVELOPER OF BANNON LAKES WANTS TO SPEAK TO YOU AND I'M

GOING TO ASK -- >> MRS. SMITH.

IF YOU WOULD HOLD FOR A SECOND. THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF FEEDBACK. IF WE CAN ADJUST THE

MICROPHONES. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT IT CAN ALL BE PUT UP. WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE IT AROUND ON

THE OVERHEAD. >> CAN YOU HEAR HIM IF.

>> YES. ART LANCASTER.

700 LAKES BOULEVARD. TOM, AND MYSELF DEVELOPED THIS SITE. WE WORKED ON THIS JUST ABOUT TWO YEARS. GOT ATE PROVED IN 2015.

ATEGOT ATE IT APPROVED.IF I KE THIS KIND OF OPPOSITION, I WOULD LOVED TO HAVE SAT DOWN WITH THE RESIDENTS HAVE SHOWN UP AND GONE THROUGH THIS. WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A FAIRLY SIMPLE MODIFICATION. AND I WANT TO GO THROUGH THE HISTORY AND WHY WE'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF SPECULATION ON WHY WE'RE DOING IT.

AND I THINK A LOT OF MISINFORMATION.

ONE THING I'D LIKE THE BRING UP IS THAT ORIGINAL IN PUD.

IS IT'S BEEN THERE FOR BETTER PART OF 20 YEARS I BELIEVE.

AND IT'S EVEN LOSING TENANTS. I BELIEVE THE DAILY GAS JUST PULLED OUT OF THERE OR SOLD TO A MIAMI BASED COMPANY.

SO WE WORKED WITHIN THAT PRIMM PREMISE.

SINCE THEN THE ST. JOHNS DRI CONVERTED THEIR INDUSTRIAL AND OFFICE TO AN AGE RESTRICTED COMMUNITY.

ABUTTING THE WEST PROPERTY LINE. WHEN THAT HAPPENED, THAT ALLOWED TO US GO TO RESIDENTIAL. SO WE CAME BACK BEFORE THE

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WE DID NOT ELIMINATE MULTIFAMILY.

WE'VE ALWAYS HAD MULTIFAMILY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN REPRESENTED AS A MIXED USE COMMUNITY.

ALWAYS HAS BEEN. THAT PARCEL WE WERE ABLE TO DEVELOP AS RESIDENTIAL. IN THE MEANTIME WE'VE CONTINUED TO MARKET THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND WE'VE DEVELOPED.

THERE AN EXISTING WENDY'S. WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE THEM AND GET THEM ON THIS SITE. WE JUST OPENED A PUBLICS RETAIL CENTER ON RACETRACK ROAD. IT IS A SIZABLE PROJECT.

IT GENERATES A LOT OF TRAFFIC. IT IS 85,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO THIS INTENT OF THIS PROJECT INITIALLY WAS TO SECURE A PUBLICS OR LIGHT GROCERY ANCHOR, LARGE RETAIL CENTER.

THIS WAS GOING TO BE A HIGH INTENSE USE AND IT WAS GOING TO GENERATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. THAT WAS ALL TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE DID OUR ORIGINAL TRAFFIC AND DID OUR IMPROVEMENTS AS EL RENOVATED REFERRED TO. WE DID $5.3 MILLION ALONG INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY IN FRONT OF THIS PROJECT.

SINCE THEN IT'S BECOME A NICE COMMERCIAL NODE.

PO LENS I CAN'T SECURED THE PUBLIX.

THAT POST DATED OUR PROJECT. WE WERE HOPING TO SECURE A PUBLIX AND WE DIDN'T. AS YOU SEE COMMERCIAL NODES TONED FORM THEMSELVES. POLEN C.I.A. A NICE COMMERCIAL NODE. NOR BELLA ISING BEING A COMMERCIAL NODE THREE MILES TO THE WEST.

IN THE MEANTIME WE HAVE A LOT MORE JOBS COMING IN THAT CORRIDOR AROUND THIS NODE. THERE ARE SEVERAL HOSPITALS RECENTLY ANNOUNCED THAT ARE COMING INTO NORTH ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE ONE THING THAT WE'VE HEARD BOTH FROM COUNTY AND JUST PEOPLE IN GENERAL NORTH ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS THERE IS NO ISSUE AND THIS COUNTY HAS BEEN DIFFICULT TO BUILD THAT TYPE OF PRODUC. IT IS NOW GETTING WHERE THERE ARE SOME VERY NICE APARTMENT PRODUCTS THAT ARE COMING INTO THIS COUNTY. THIS SITE WE WERE APPROACHED BY APARTMENT DEVELOPER THAT DOESN'T MEAN THIS IS GOING TO BE AN APARTMENT SITE. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE'RE ADDING THE ABILITY TO PUT AN APARTMENT SITE HERE.

OUR COMMERCIAL IS NOT GOING AWAY.

SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO MARKET HOW THE MARKET DICTATES.

RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE INTEREST IN APARTMENTS GOING HERE.

THEY WOULD BE CONTROLLED BY US AS FARR AS HOW THEY LOOK.

THEY ARE GOING TO BE ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE FOR THE APARTMENTS TO HAVE THEIR OWN AMENITIES.

THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR -- THEY WOULD BE GATED ACCESS ORIENTED AND I THINK FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT THAT IS ALREADY MITIGATED. SO WE TRIED TO WORK WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT WE APPROVED IN 2015.

AND I THINK I HOPE I'VE ADDRESSED MOST OF THE RESIDENTS QUESTIONS. DO I UNDERSTAND THERE IS ALWAYS

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THANK YOU. >> I THINK THERE WAS ONE QUESTION OR JUST TWO CLARIFICATIONS.

JUST IN RESPONSE TO A COMMENT ABOUT SINGLE FAMILY VERSUS MULTIFAMILY. AND THE BANNON LAKES PUD DOCUMENT, THERE ARE ONLY TWO TYPES OF UNITS SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY. THAT'S WHY I REFERRED TO MULTIFAMILY CAN INCLUDE TWO OR MORE UNITS.

THAT'S DEFINITION IN THE BANNON LAKES PUD JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. AND THERE WAS A LADY WHO ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT ACCESS TO THE SITE HERE AND ART CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. BUT I BELIEVE THERE WOULD APPROXIMATE ACCESS ON TO ALL FOUR POINTS, INTERNATIONAL GOLF

PARKWAY. >> THIS MAP WOULD BE A BETTER REPRESENTATION. THAT MAP IS VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE. AS YOU CAN SEE WHEN WE DID THE IMPROVEMENTS TO IGP, IGP WAS NOT JUST FOUR LANE.

IT HAD SUBSTANTIAL TURN LANES. THERE IS DOUBLE TURN LANES INTO BANNON LAKES BOULEVARD. WE WENT AHEAD AND PUT THE ANTICIPATED TURN LANE POINTS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF IGP INTO THIS PROJECT. SO ACCESS INTO THIS AND WHAT THIS MAP REPRESENTS IS THREE OUT PARCELS.

THESE ARE CONSTRUCTED. THIS WOULD BE A THIRD OUT PARCEL WE PLAN ON RETAINING AS COMMERCIAL.

THIS AREA WOULD BE THE APARTMENT SITE.

THESE ARE ALL COUNTY ROADS. DID YOU RAN DRIVE IS COMPLETED.

PARKLAND TRAIL WHEN PARKLAND TRAIL RECEIVED THEIR CHANGE TO THEIR DRI ALLOWING FOR RESIDENTIAL, THEY HAD TO MAKE A COMMITMENT AND I BELIEVE YOU COULD PROBABLY VERIFY THIS THAT THERE IS SIGNALIZATION THAT IS GOING IN HERE AS WELL.

THIS IS A FULLY SIGNALIZED TIMED INTERSECTION IN FRONT OF FRANCIS AND BANNON LAKES. THERE IS NOW SIGNALIZATION ANTICIPATED TO BE BUILT INTO PARKLAND TRAIL.

ANY OF THESE CONNECTION POINTS CAN BE USED.

THERE IS AN ANTICIPATED BREAK HERE.

THE MEDIAN BREAK IS ALREADY IN PLACE.

THIS WOULD HANDLE BOTH COMMERCIAL AND APARTMENT.

BUT THERE AGAIN, ANY ACCESS POINT INTO AN APARTMENT IS GATED AND WOULD APPROXIMATE USED BY AUTOMATED GATE.

ANOTHER IMPORTANT PART IS THERE IS A CDD WITHIN BANNON LAKES.

THIS PARCEL AND THIS PROJECT IS NOT PART OF THAT CDD.

THEY DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE CDD AMENITIES.

THEY WILL BE RESTRICTED TO JUST THIS SITE.

SELF-CONTAINED AMENITIES, SELF-CONTAINED PARKING.

WITHIN OUR PUD, THE ELEMENTS RELATED TO MULTIFAMILY AS FAR AS SETBACKS ARE ALREADY IN OUR PUD. WE'RE NOT REWRITING OUR PUD.

AS FAR AS HOW SOMETHING CONSTRUCT, HOW TALL IT IS, PULLING OUR MULTIFAMILY WHAT FROM WHAT WAS EMBEDDED ORIGINALLY IN OUR PROJECT OUT INTO OUR COMMERCIAL NODE.

WE WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> I BELIEV THAT'S IT MR. CHAIRMAN UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.

>> I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU. >> I BELIEVE MR. CHAIRMAN THAT WRAPS US UP UNLESS YOU OR THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR

US. >> I'LL GO DOWN -- I'M GOING TO DO TWO THINGS. FIRST I'M GOING TO ASK THE BOARD MEMBERS IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS. THEN I'M GOING TO GO INTO AGENCY FOR OUR DISCUSSION FOR A MOTION. ANY QUESTIONS FROM AGENCY

MEMBERS? >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> OUR GTV FOLKS INDICATE THEY NEED A PAUSE TO CORRECT A TECHNICAL ISSUE. IF YOU WOULD JUST PAUSE THIS

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SHOULD BE JUST A >> I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENTS OR

QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENTS OR

QUESTIONS THAT THE TIME. >> FIRST I'D LIKE TO GO DOWN -- ENTER MR. CHAIRMAN JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER.

IS MR. MATOVINO STILL HERE. >> YES, HE IS.

>> NOW THAT YOU ARE WITH US AGAIN, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SECOND ROUND OF THE COMMENT BY THE PRESENTER?

>> NO I DID NOT. THANK YOU.

>> NOW WE ARE IN MEETINGS FOR DISCUSSION AMONG OURSELVES.

AND THEN AT THE CONCLUSION OF THAT I'LL CLOSE THAT AND THEN WE'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION AT THIS TIME.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION IN THE AGENCY?

>> YEAH. I GUESS MY COMMENT WOULD BE THAT OUR JOB IS IS PROPOSAL IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THEY ARE NOT EXCEEDING THE 13 UNITS PER ACRE. THE BOARD CAN TAKE MANY OTHER THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION BUT I FEEL IT'S INCUMBENT UPON TO US MOVE FORWARD AND MOVE THIS FORWARD TO THE BOARD.

I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE BE THE TIME COMES.

>> IF YOU'LL HOLD THAT FOR A FEW MOMENTS.

>> >> I HAVE SEVERAL COMMENTS.

I APPRECIATE ELLEN'S PRESENTATION.

BUT I ALSO APPRECIATE DR. HILL SEN BECK'S COMMENT HE MADE.

I WENT THROUGH ALL THE COMMENTS FROM THE 70 PLUS OR 80 OVER 80 I THINK COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE IN REGARD TO THIS PROPOSAL.

I HAVE SEVERAL PROBLEMS WITH IT. ONE IS THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN RAISED BY MANY OF THE RESIDENTS MANY THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT A MAJOR ISSUE FOR ME OF COURSE IS THE IMPACT ON THE SCHOOLS.

AND I KNOW THAT SCHOOL IS OVER CAPACITY.

BASED ON THE SCHOOLS. BASED ON THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUE AND BASED ON THE FACT WHAT WE'RE AMENDING HERE, WE'RE AMENDING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I CAN'T DO THAT BASED ON WHAT I

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>> WE WILL DO THAT IN A FEW MOMENTS.

THANK YOU. >> I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR ALL THE FOLKS THAT CAME OUT TO PARTICIPATE TODAY AND VOICE THEIR CONCERN AND THIS IS PART OF THE PROCESS.

AND I SHARE A LOT OF THE CONCERNS OF THE FOLKS IN THE AREA AS FAR AS WITH THE TRAFFIC. AS FAR AS WITH THE AMENITIES.

A LOT OF MY CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED BY THE APPLICANT AND THEIR PRESENTATION. BUT I GO BACK TO WHAT WAS JUST SAID. IT'S OUR JOB TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE AND WHETHER IT MEETS THE CODE. IN FACT THIS PROJECT DOES I BELIEVE. SO THOSE ARE JUST MY COMMENTS.

>> THANK YOU. I HAVE NO COMMENTS MYSELF.

I CAN ACCEPT A MOTION PLEASE. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE BASED ON FINDINGS AND FACT AS BASED IN THE REPORT.

>> >> ILL GO DOWN THE ROLL AND

VOTE. >> NO.

>> NO. >> YES.

>> YES. THAT MOTION PASSES.

>> THANK YOU. HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT.

THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

IT'S SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD BY THEM AUGUST 18.

IF THEY VOTE THE TRANSMIT IT WILL GO TO THE STATE AND IT WILL BE TURN OR THREE MONTHS TURN AROUND AND COME BACK.

IF THEY VOTE NOT TO TRANSMIT, IT WILL NOT GO.

I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT'S THE PROCEDURE FOR THESE.

>> THANK YOU. SO ULTIMATELY YOU HAVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES BEFORE YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

AND THANK YOU FOR HANDLING YOURSELVES SO WELL.

LET ME CHECK OUT THE REST OF MY AGENDA HERE.

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>> ARE THERE ANY -- >> GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

NOTHING MUCH. WANT TO THANK THE PUBLIC, WHAT IS LEFT OF THEM HERE AND MAYBE THOSE LISTENING FOR THEIR PATIENCE. WITH THE MEDIA TECHNOLOGY PROCEDURES AND CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE, LIKE WISE MR. CHAIR THANK YOU FOR FILLING IN. IT'S A TOUGH JOB TO GET UP THERE AND DO THAT WITH THESE PROCEDURES.

WE ARE SCHEDULED TO HAVE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY

AUGUST 6. >> THE MEETING IS STILL IN

PROGRESS. >> I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF SOME

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>> THANK YOU EVERYONE. THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

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