[Call meeting to order.]
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ATTENDANCE. >>THOMAS BAKER: DEFINITELY.
I'M HAPPY TO DO THIS. IT'S 5:01 PM ON JUNE JUNE 29, 2020.
THIS IS SEAN CHAIRMAN ON THE ARCHITECTURE COMMITTEE. I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND REQUEST THAT ALL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS PLEASE ANNOUNCE THEIR ATTENDANCE.
WHO DO WE HAVE ON THE LINE. >> ALLISON.
>> ALLISON MCALLEN? DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS? OKAY LOOKS LIKE WERE STILL MISSING A FEW FOLKS.
>> WE CAN GIVE IT A FEW MOMENTS. IT DOES SOUND LIKE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE A FEW PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE COME ON AND DROPPED OFF WE CAN GIVE THEM A FEW SECONDS WE
NEED TO ESTABLISH OUR QUORUM. >> DAVID WAS THAT YOU?
>> I DON'T THINK SO. DAVID, IF YOU ARE THERE, CHECK YOUR -- MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT ON MUTE. MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT TRYING TO TALK TO US WHILE YOU ARE ON
MUTE. >> I KNOW THAT GLENN WAS TRYING
>> OKAY. GLENN, WE'VE GOT GLENN JUST MADE HIS APPEARANCE ON THE
RECORD. >> THIS IS DAVE CHRISTINE.
>> OKAY. IT'S STRANGE THAT WE ARE ON A PHONE AND ON THE COMPUTER.
I DON'T QUITE GET HOW THAT WORKS.
>> IF I CAN INTERJECT EVERYBODY REAL QUICK.
>> ARUNDLE COUNTY DAVE RIBBLE TO LISTEN TO THE MEETING BY WATCHING THE TELEVISION
CHANNEL. >> WILL WE HAVE A QUORUM.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. WE'VE ALREADY CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER. I LIKE THE.
>> SEAN? >> I'M HEARING ALL THE FEEDBACK ON THE PHONE. I CAN HEAR.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN IF I CAN INTERJECT TO TRY TO STRAIGHTEN THIS OUT FOR US.
>> OKAY. SHOULD WE JUST BE LISTENING TO THE PHONE AND NOT TO THE
>> ALL RIGHT. I FINALLY MUTED THE COMPUTER.
>> OKAY. GREAT. WE'VE ONLY CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 5:01 PM. LET'S -- PLEASE ASK THAT THE PUBLIC NOTICE STATEMENT BE
I WOULD ASK ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBER THAT HAPPENS TO BE ON THE PHONE LINE TO PLEASE TURN OFF YOUR SPEAKERS ON YOUR COMPUTER OR MUT IF YOU'RE WATCHING THE MEETING WITH GTD.
YOU NEED TO TURN OFF ALL THE VOLUME ON EVERYTHING BUT THE PHONE CALL.
[Reading of the Public Notices statement.]
>> MR. CHAIRMAN I CAN READ THE PUBLIC NOTICE STATEMENT FOR YOU .
>> THAT SOUNDS GOOD. LET'S DO THAT.
>> THIS IS A PROBABLY -- PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT AT A DESIGNATED TIME DURING THE HEARING. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO SPEAK MUST COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD AVAILABLE FROM STAFF. ANY SPEAKERS MAY BE HEARD ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR. THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIME ON EACH ITEM FOR THREE MINUTES AS DESIGNATED BY THE SHARE THE LECTURE. THEY SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORDS. SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN
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TESTIMONY. IT MAY BE CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD IN THE WAITER TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY.IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION, SUCH PERSON WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THE VERBATIM RECORD IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS MADE. ANY PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE PRESENTED SUCH AS DRAWINGS, PHOTOGRAPHS, ETC. WILL BE RETAINED BY STAFF AS A PART OF THE RECORD. THE RECORD WILL BE AVAILABLE IN ANY APPEAL RELATED TO THE ITEM.
BOARD MEMBER SHALL BE REMINDED THAT THEY SHOULD STATE WHETHER THEY HAD ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT. IF SUCH COMMUNICATION OCCURS THE BOARD MEMBER WILL IDENTIFY THE PERSONS INVOLVED IN THE CONTENT OF THE COMMUNICATION.
WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE. WE WILL DIRECT COMMENTS TO THE ISSUES. WE WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE
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>> THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO AGENDA ITEM 1 WHICH IS ARC KELLER WILLIAMS REALTY WALL SIGN. LET'S HEAR FROM THE COUNTY ON
THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE ARC 2020-03 FOR KELLER WILLIAMS REALTY WALL SIGN.
IT IS A REQUEST FOR A 23 SQUARE-FOOT WALL SIGN, WHICH IS ILLUMINATED WITH WHITE AND RED LETTERS LOCATED OUT 190 1A1 NORTH SUITE 100. NEW PARAGRAPH I DO NOT HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD TO THE SPIRIT IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENT. IT IS THE CORRECT SIZE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF THE POND REVIEWED YOUR OVERLAY. AND THE SIGN IN ITSELF IS PRESENTED NOW ON GTD WHICH THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY FOR YOU ALL TO SEE.
AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE IS ON THE LINE IF THE COMMITTEE HAS
I AM HERE. >> LET'S HEAR FROM THE
APPLICANT, PLEASE? >> WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THE 23 FOOT SQUARE WALL SIGN FOR KELLER WILLIAMS, WHICH WOULD BE REPLACING THE EXISTING CON TORAH SIGN. AND THIS SIGN IS INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED ROUTED FLAT PANEL SIGN WITH AN ACRYLIC BACKER, RED LOGO PER KELLER WILLIAMS WITH WHITE LETTERING.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, THIS IS INTERNALLY
ILLUMINATED BLACK RETURNS? >> IT'S ACTUALLY THE BACKER IS PAINTED TO MATCH THE BUILDING. IT IS ON A BACKER PANEL WITH A ROUTED FACE AND -- ROUTED FACE WITH AN ACRYLIC BACKER. SO IT WILL BE -- THE END RUN IS YOU'LL SEE RED LETTERS FOR THE KELLER WILLIAMS LOGO IN WHITE LETTERS OR THE LOWER KELLER WILLIAMS COPY.
>> SO, IS THIS SIGN IS SOLID, A COMPLETE RECTANGULAR SIGN?
>> YES. THAT IS MOUNTED. AND THEN A COPY SEE EXISTING CONTOURED SIGN I BELIEVE. THIS SIGN IS PUT TOGETHER AS ONE PIECE TO MATCH THE BUILDING FACADE AND GOES UP AS ONE RECTANGULAR PIECE. THE ACTUAL COPY AREA OF THE SIGN IS 23 SQUARE FEET. I THINK THE TOTAL AREA OF THE SIGN IS 28 SQUARE FEET WITH A
48 SQUARE FOOT ALLOWANCE. >> THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. I'M HAVING A PROBLEM PICTURING WHERE THE CURRENT SIGN IS THE BUILDING IS EXACTLY. I THINK I KNOW WHERE IT IS. THIS SEEMS TO ME TO BE LIKE A RACEWAY SIGN WE TYPICALLY DON'T APPROVE THESE SOLID MOUNTED SIGNS AND WE ARE USUALLY APPROVING LETTERING. CAN WE GET A LITTLE GUIDANCE ON THAT?
>> IF YOU HAVE MY DRAWINGS, YOU WILL SEE THERE IS A DETAILED CUT OUT SHEET.
>> UH-UH (AFFIRMATIVE). >> THAT SHOWS THE ACTUAL BACKER. NOW -- IS NOT NECESSARILY A RACEWAY.
THE ACTUAL LETTERS ARE ROUTED INTO THE BACKER PAL VERSUS THEIR -- THEY ARE NOT
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IF WE COULD DEFER TO STAFF ON THAT ISSUE?>> YES, SIR. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THIS SIGN IS BUILT ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THE SIGN IT'S REPLACING. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A DIFFERENT COPY ITSELF, BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AS FAR AS THE SIZING AND WHAT WE ARE PROVING, I FEEL THAT IT MEETS THE CODE REGULATIONS THAT ARE RELEVANT TO IT. I'M NOT SURE IF I HAVE A LOT
MORE THAN I COULD ADD TO IT. >> OKAY.
AND YOU MENTIONED INTERNAL ILLUMINATION. IS THE RED LETTERING AND
INTENDED TO BE INTERNALLY LIT? >> YES.
THEY'LL HAVE LED INTERNAL ILLUMINATION.
>> OKAY. LET'S OPEN THIS UP TO THE COMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION.
>> THIS IS ALLISON. CAN I JUMP IN?
>> YES, PLEASE, ALLISON. >> I DROVE BY THERE TODAY AND I DON'T -- THE -- IT'S NEXT DOOR TO THE CHASE BANK. IN THE CHASE BANK SIDE -- SIGN IS WHITE WITH BLUE RETURNS BUT MOUNTED ON THE ACTUAL -- I GUESS, WHAT IS BEHIND THE PANEL THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING. AND IN MY OPINION, THAT WOULD BE MUCH PREFERABLE.
I GUESS I DO NOT SEE WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. AND HOW WAS IT ILLUMINATED IF IT'S ROUTED INTO THE BACKER BOARD?
>> YES, MA'AM. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DETAIL SHEET YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS A TWO INCH ALUMINUM ANGLE FRAME AND ALL THE LED IS ENCASED IN THAT TWO INCH FRAME.
>> ARE JUST THE LETTERS ILLUMINATED?
>> YES, MA'AM. THE BACKER IS NOT ILLUMINATED. AFTER DARK, THE ONLY THING YOU WOULD SEE WOULD BE A RED KW LOGO IN WHITE LETTERING THAT SAYS ATLANTIC PARTNERS, KELLER
WILLIAMS REALTY. >> IS THERE NO WAY THAT YOU COULD JUST MOUNT THAT ON THE WAY THE CHASE BANK IS?
>> WITH INDIVIDUAL LETTERS ON THE AREA ABOVE THE DOOR?
>> YES, MA'AM. BUT THE CUSTOMER IS REQUESTING THIS PARTICULAR LAYOUT.
I'M NOT SURE WHY THEIR PREFERENCE OF THAT.
>> THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS THE TWO INCH FRAME, THE LETTERS WILL NOT PROJECT OFF THAT FRAME. THEY ARE ROUTED INTO THAT BATTLE WITH THE TRANSLUCENT ACRYLIC BACKER. IF YOU LOOK AT IT AT NIGHT YOU WILL HAVE THE SAME EFFECT.
BUT IT IS NOT EXACTLY A CHANDLER.
>> IS THE PANEL -- ARE THE PANELS, DO THEY GO FROM THE AREA THAT IT IS MOUNTED IN?
I MEAN HOW -- >> AND THE REASON BEING, WHICH I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION THE REASON BEING IS YOU WILL LOOK AT THE PHOTO THAT I PROVIDED, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE AREA WHERE THE PANEL IS GOING OVER HIS GLASS BEHIND IT. I DO BELIEVE.
>> IT IS? >> I DO BELIEVE THAT WAS THE
THOUGHT BEHIND THIS PANEL. >> SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE CHASE
ONE? >> NO, MA'AM.. NOT EXACTLY LIKE THE CHASE LETTERS. THE CHASE LETTERS ARE DIMENSIONAL LETTERS OFF OF THE
PRIVATE MAILING. >> AMINE WHERE IT IS?
>> THE CHASE IS A SOLID PANEL THERE OF WALL. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY GLASS
BEHIND WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING? >> NO, MA'AM.. NO, MA'AM.. IT'S PAINTED THE SAME COLOR AS THE BUILDING FACDE. IT WILL BE THAT BEIGE COLOR.
TO MATCH THE FACADE. >> I AM DONE, SEAN.
>>SEAN MULHALL: OKAY. THANK YOU ALLISON GLENN.
>>GLENN HETTINGER: I LIKE IT A WHOLE LOT. SORRY, ALLISON (LAUGHING) BUT I MEAN, THE GRAPHICS ARE VERY NICE. WE HAVE PLAIN OLD WISE LETTERS THAT WE HAVE THE KW WHICH WE ARE ALLOWING THEM TO HAVE A GOOD COLOR AND I THINK IT'S GRAPHICALLY NICE. AND I MEAN -- IT IS ONE FLAT PANEL WITH CUTOUTS OF THESE LETTERS. THE LIGHT WILL SHINE THROUGH. AND IT'S AS SIMPLE AS IT CAN BE. I LIKE IT.
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THIS IS DAVID CHRISTINE. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHY IT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE ON TORAH EXISTING SIGN THAT SHOWN IN THE PHOTOGRAPH WITH THE DIMENSIONAL LETTERS THEY ARE.OUR GOING TO SOMETHING MUCH DIFFERENT.
>> THE CUSTOMER THEMSELVES REQUESTED THIS ROWDY -- ROUTED PANEL.
>> OKAY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE -- WE STRUGGLE WITH AS A COMMITTEE IS LOOKING AT COLORS WITHOUT HAVING PHYSICAL SAMPLES AT HAND AND READ IS ALWAYS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE. SO, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT IF WE HAVE THE ACTUAL COLOR NUMBERED DESIGNATIONS IDENTIFIED IN THE RED.
>> ALL RIGHT. SO DO I NEED TO BRING A SAMPLE TO YOU OF THIS COLOR OR CAN I IT'S THE 2793 ACRYLATE ACRYLIC COLOR BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO BRING A SAMPLE TO SOMEONE.
MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD, RED. >> U.S.
>> ABOUT 90 PERCENT OF THE SIZE THAT YOU SEE THAT HER RED COLOR ARE THAT 2793.
>> GOT YOU. I SEE WHICH ARE LOOKING AT.
>> IS THE SIGN, I KNOW IT'S GOD THREE-DIMENSIONAL LETTERING, IS IT MOUNTED ON A PANEL?
>> (INDISCERNIBLE) IS MOUNTED ON A PANEL. YES, SIR.
IN THE PANEL IS THE SAME, THE SAME BACKER. THE LETTERS WILL NOT BE DIMENSIONAL OFF OF THE PANEL, BUT IT WILL BE THE SAME BACKGROUND PAINTED TO MATCH THE
OKAY. >> DAVE WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THE COLOR? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S REPRESENTED PRETTY WELL IN THE APPLICATION
IT DOES. I'M FINE WITH IT. THOSE ARE THE ONLY COMMENTS THAT I WANTED TO OFFER. THANK YOU.
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION?
>> I WOULD JUST SAY -- THIS IS GLENN. THE RED, IF IT'S ANYWHERE -- ANYWHERE BETWEEN RED AND BURGUNDY, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF THE RED. IF IT WAS BURGUNDY WOULD LOOK NICE.
IF IT WAS BRIGHT RED IT WOULD LOOK NICE.
>> THE 2793, SERVE AS A BASE RED. IT IS NOT ON THE BURGUNDY END OF IT. IT'S MORE OF A BRIGHTER -- BRIGHTER THAN BURGUNDY BUT NOT
SCARLET. >> I'M JUST SAYING I THINK IT WOULD LOOK GOOD IF IT WAS RED I THINK IT WOULD LOOK GOOD BURGUNDY OR ANYWHERE IN
>> ONE QUESTION, IS THIS THE BUILDING THAT IS KIND OF LIKE AN AND ON THAT CHASE BUILDING? DOES IT FACE THE GAS STATION ACTUALLY?
>> NO. I THINK THE CHASE EVIDENT MAY, BUT THE END, WHERE WE ARE GOING DOES NOT. I THINK IT IS A CLEARER VIEW. FROM A 1A.
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS A PRETTY CLEAN SIGN. THE RED SEEMS TO BE ONLY A SMALL PART OF IT OTHERWISE AS DAVID POINTED OUT WILL BE STRUGGLING WITH THE ADDITION OF THE RED.
BUT IT'S JUST TOO LETTERS. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY HEARTBURN WITH IT SINCE IT'S REPLACING THE SIGN THAT IS ALREADY ON A PPANEL THAT IS THERE. I THINK THAT IT'S AN ACCEPTABLE SIGN. AND I WILL GO HAD -- OF GOD TO PULL UP -- BEAR WITH ME, FOLKS.
I'M JUMPING BETWEEN SCREENS HERE TRYING TO PULL UP MY AGENDA VERSUS THE ACTUAL REPORTS. OKAY. YEAH.
I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE ARC 2020-03 KELLER WILLIAMS REALTY WALL SIGN WITH THE STANDARD
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HOURS OF ILLUMINATION FOR THE SIGNED AS A CONDITION.>> THIS IS DAVE CHRISTINE AND I SECOND.
I SAID AYE. >> IT'S A UNANIMOUS VOTE FROM
ALL COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT. >> THAT'S THE UNIQUE THING
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THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE ON.>> NEXT UP WE WILL CALL UP ARCCC 2020-09 ROSCOE LANDING APPLICATION.
AND LET'S HEAR FROM STAFF ON THAT ONE.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS JACOB. IF I COULD GET A CONFIRMATION WHO MADE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM.
>> I MADE THE MOTION. IT WAS SECONDED BY DAVE CHRISTINE.
>> THANK YOU. >> AGAIN THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, ARCCC 2020-09 ROSCOE LANDING. LOCATED AT 405 ROSCOE EXTENSION. IT IS A REQUEST TO APPROVE THE LANDSCAPING, FENCING, LIGHTING AND SIGNAGE FOREBODING STORAGE FACILITY THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, 2019-20. .
IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE YOUR TELEVISION OR COMPUTER VOLUME UP, COULD YOU PLEASE -- THANK YOU. AND MS. KAREN TAYLOR IS GOING TO PRESENT HER ITEM FOR YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT
THEN, PLEASE. >> I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE DELAY. THIS IS KAREN TAYLOR, 77 ZERO GOSSET STREET.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF PAUL ROWEN. UNFORTUNATELY DID NOT REALIZE THE MEETING IS TODAY AND HE IS OUT OF TOWN. BUT HE SHOULD BE ONLINE AS
>> OKAY. AND THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, CHRIS, READ.
>> OF YOU DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, -- AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT NO ONE WOULD PHYSICALLY BE HERE SO I DID DIDN'T BRING SAMPLES AND THINGS.
WILL GO THROUGH WE CAN STOP AT EACH ITEM SINCE THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM.
AND I WILL -- AND TALK ABOUT THEM. I HAVE SOME BASIC INFORMATION, JUST TO KIND OF LOCATE WHERE IT IS. GIVING YOU, WHERE IT IS IN RELATION TO SOUTH ROSCOE AND SOUTH ROSCOE BOULEVARD EXTENSION.
THIS IS IN THE PALM VALLEY AS SHOWN. IT ALSO IS COMMERCIALLY ZONED AND AS JACOB HAS MENTIONED, THERE WAS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT GRANTED BY THE COUNTY AS A -- A STOPGAP MEASURE. THERE IS QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A BOAT BARN OR NOT. THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY.
>> UNDERSTOOD. >> THIS IS THE ZONING.
AND I INCLUDED AN AERIAL, JUST SO EVERYBODY WOULD GET AN IDEA FROM A FEW ABOVE.
THIS SITE WAS APPROVED FOR A RESTAURANT FOR A LONG TIME AGO. IT WAS ALL CLEAR.
THE RETENTION WAS PUT IN AT THAT TIME AND THAT'S WHY LOOKS LIKE IT DOES PRETTY MUCH DENUDED. THERE IS SOME VEGETATION THAT IS ALONG -- ADJACENT TO THE BOAT RAMP THAT IS OPERATED TO THE NORTH. AND JUST A FEW TREES TO THE SOUTH AS WELL. SO WE DO HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING TO DO ON THAT.
THIS IS THE NEW SITE PLAN AND I CAN GO BACK AND FORTH OF WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED FOR THE SEP, WHICH IS MY NEXT SLIDE WHICH YOU WILL SEE IN YOUR PACKAGE. AND THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE TO THAT END THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE FOR AS A RESULT OF FIRE SERVICES.
THEY WANTED THE ACCESS THAT IS SHOWN HERE FROM SOUTH ROSCOE TO COME ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO
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COME BACK OUT. RATHER THAN JUST HAVE AN ACCESS HERE.THE SERIOUS PARKING. THERE ARE NO SPECIFIC PLANS FOR THE BUILDING AT THIS POINT IN TIME FOR THE REMAINDER THE PARKING. AS I MENTIONED, THE RETENTION POND IS ALREADY THERE. IT IS A BALDHEADED RETENTION POND AND WE GET TO THAT POINT, THERE IS A FENCE THAT WILL BE REQUIRED AROUND THAT WHICH IS PART OF THE APPLICATION TODAY.
THERE IS THE BOAT FACILITY WHICH WOULD BE WITHIN THE LINES SHOWN HERE.
AND THAT WOULD BE BOATS ON TRAILERS. THERE IS NO BOATLIFT.
THERE IS NO BOAT ACCESS FROM THIS SITE. SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO STORE THEIR BOAT STORES ON THE TRAILER AND THEY TAKE IT OUT AND THEY PUT THEIR BOAT INTO THE WATER. AS A SIDELINE TYPE THING. SO, BESIDES THAT, THERE IS THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS WHICH WE WILL GET INTO. AND WE'VE INCLUDED THE SIGNAGE AS WELL.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT AT THIS POINT DO WE KEEP GOING?
>> OKAY. THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN I BROUGHT YOU ALL 24 BY 36 SO YOU COULD READ THEM. (LAUGHING). BUT BASICALLY, -- AND CHRIS IS ON THE PHONE. HE IS THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. BUT BASICALLY WE HAVE A GENERAL PLAN SHOWN AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR OR NOT. YOU PROBABLY CAN'T SEE MY
CURSOR. >> I CAN SEE THE CURSOR BUT I CAN SEE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. OKAY. THERE WE GO.
>> SO THERE IS EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING ALONG SOUTH ROSCOE EXTENSION.
THERE IS EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING ALONG THE NORTH BOUNDARY EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE TREES IN THE RIGHT AWAY. THE FUTURE TREASON THINGS WHICH ARE THIS AREA ARE NOT GOING TO BE PLANTED AT THIS TIME. BUT WE HAVE AGREED THAT WE WILL GO AHEAD AND PUT THIS BUFFER THAT GOES ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH INCLUDES A WALL IN THIS LOCATION WHERE THE FUTURE BUILDING WOULD BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CODE. IN FENCING ALONG HERE.
WHEN THAT'S -- WHEN THAT IS NEEDED. SO THERE'S FENCING FOR THE LANDSCAPING PLAN AND IT SHOWS ALL THE DIFFERENT VARIETIES AND THINGS AND CHRIS HAS THE SPECIFICS ON THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> REAL QUICK, KAREN, IS THIS -- THIS PROPERTY OVERALL, INTENDED TO BE WALLED OFF OR CLOSED OFF BY LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING FENCING?
>> AND. >> AND YOU WILL SEE IT AGAIN BECAUSE IT WILL COME BACK WITH -- WHEN THERE IS A PROPOSED BUILDING TO FINISH THAT OFF.
DO I SEE BOAT FLIPS THERE IS THAT WHAT THOSE ARE.
>> THERE ARE. THERE ARE EXISTING BOAT SLIPS ALONG THE FRONT THAT ARE CONSTRUCTED AND MORE PERMITTED AND INSTALLED.
>> IN THIS PROPERTY IS UNDER AND ADJACENT TO THE PALM VALLEY BRIDGE, RIGHT.
>> YES. THE BOAT RAMP IS RIGHT HERE. SO THE BRIDGE IS OVER THAT.
>> RIGHT. OKAY. AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE MORE THAN ANYTHING RIGHT NOW IT IS A STORAGE AREA THAT THE VOTERS WILL UTILIZE THE PALM VALLEY
BOAT RAMP UNDER THE BRIDGE? >> YES.
I AM JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROGRESS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
>> I THINK YOU SAW WE HAD A BOAT PHYSICALLY THAT WE ARE PLANNING ON THE NORTHERN PIECE THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS. THEY WERE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING ON THE SIDE IN THE WERE APPEALS AND THING SO IN THE INTERIM, IN ORDER FOR THIS TO
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MOVE FORWARD, THIS IS A TEMPORARY TYPE THING TO DO THE BOAT STORAGE.>> SO TO KIND OF GO THROUGH AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN STOP ON ANY OF THAT.
>> HAS FOR THE FENCING THE PALM VALLEY CODE DOES ALLOW FOR CHAIN-LINK FENCING AS LONG AS IT IS LANDSCAPED AROUND IT BUT -- IN THIS CASE, WE ARE PLANNING SOME TYPE OF PRIVACY SCREEN AS WELL. I'M KINDA SHOWING WHAT TYPE OF SCREENING OPTIONS THERE ARE THE PLAN IS FOR THIS TO BE A BLACK COATED FENCE. ALL PARTS OF IT WILL BE.
AND THEN TO USE BLACK FOR THE SCREENING THAT GOES WITH IT. I DO HAVE SOME ALTERNATIVES AND I WILL BRING THOSE UP. THEY ARE IN -- I HAD SENT THEM AFTER THE LAST MEETING SO THIS WAS MY ORIGINAL POWERPOINT. SO I CAN SHOW THOSE, TOO, WHICH ARE SOME OPTIONS FOR THE SCREENING. THESE OPTIONS ARE THE FENCING THAT WOULD BE THE FENCING THAT WOULD GO AROUND THE RETENTION POND. SO REALLY WERE LOOKING FOR A BASE TYPE -- THE BLACK ALUMINUM FENCING ON THAT ONE AND IT'S GOT LIKE TWO DIFFERENT, THINGS JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME VARIETY. AND MAYBE I SHOULD GO AHEAD AND SHOW THOSE OPTIONS.
>> SO THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT YOU LOOKING AT, THE COLOR-CODED CHAIN-LINK FENCES.
AND AGAIN, THEY COME IN THE DIFFERENT COLORS. AND WE'VE CHOSEN THE BLACK WE'VE ALSO -- WHEN YOU GET TO THE SIGN YOU SEE THE BLACK LIGHTING AS WELL.
>> I FOUND SOME ALTERNATIVE THE TYPE OF BLOCKAGE THAT YOU COULD USE BY PUTTING A PANEL ON IT.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SLATS THAT CAN GO INTO IT. IN THIS ONE PARTICULARLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR AREA, THAT MIGHT BE THE MOST PREFERABLE VISIBLY BLOCKING.
IT'S LIKE 95 PERCENT BLOCKAGE.
PLACE YOU REALLY SEE THAT IS ALONG THE PARKING LOT. THE REST WILL BE BEHIND THE
REQUIRED LANDSCAPING. >> COULD YOU TURN THAT OFF FOR A SECOND. YOU KNOW WHERE THAT BOOK IS WITH THE -- FOR THE ARCHITECT
FROM NAPLES? >> I'VE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT FENCING. HE SHOWED US TWO DIFFERENT FENCES IT LOOKS LIKE.
THERE'S A BLACK ALUMINUM REASSEMBLE HEAVY DUTY FENCING AND THEN THE CHAIN-LINK.
I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHAT'S GOING TO GO WHERE.
>> THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE WOULD BE FOR THE BOAT STORAGE SO THAT YOU CAN PUT -- YOU HAVE ALL THE VISUAL PANELS ON IT WERE TALKING ABOUT. EITHER A FABRIC TYPE PANEL THESE PARTICULAR ONE SET OF GOT UP RIGHT NOW. HOORAY -- THREE FINAL THAT THE SLIP THROUGH THE -- TO THOSE. AND IT SHOWS IN WHITE. BUT IT DOES COME IN BLACK.
SO IT WOULD ALSO BE BLACK. THE OTHER ONES THAT I SHOWED THAT ARE MORE OPEN, OH, I'VE GOT TO GO BACK TO MY -- I'VE GOT TO GO BACK TO THE -- THE ONES THAT I SHOWED LIKE THIS, THIS WOULD BE AROUND THE EDGE OF THE RETAINING WALL AT THE -- RETENTION POND.
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>> OKAY. SO WE WANTED TO BLOCK ANY VIEWS OF THE BOATS WITHIN THE AND THE TRAILERS IN THE STORAGE AREA, BUT FOR THAT THAT IS NICE. YOU PROBABLY END UP PUTTING A FOUNTAIN OR SOMETHING IN THERE. THEY MAY.
>> AND SO THAT IS A FENCING THAT I SAW, WHATEVER IT IS, BEACHFRONT, HEAVY-DUTY PREASSEMBLED VENTS, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO BE USED FOR?
>> THE -- THAT YOUR OPTIONS. I GAVE YOU TWO OPTIONS WITH THE.
>> OKAY. >> EITHER THIS ONE OR THIS ONE WOULD BE FOR THE -- FOR THE RETENTION -- FOR THE RETENTION.
>> SO JUST AGAIN TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND IS THE RETENTION POND WOULD GET THIS ALUMINUM PANEL BUT THE -- THE BOAT, STORAGE AREA WILL HAVE A HIGHER CHAIN-LINK FENCE THAT WILL BE SCREENED WITH OTHER -- WHATEVER COLOR WE DECIDE ON.
>> THEY HAVE DIFFERENT PANELS. THEY HAVE PANELS A CLICK TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I FOUND THIS ONE WAS A LITTLE MORE THAN THE FIRST ONE I INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION.
AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE AND 90 PERCENT BLOCKAGE. BUT IT'S -- AGAIN, YOU'RE USING TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF FENCING ON THIS PROPERTY?
>> CORRECT. ONE IS THE FENCING FOR THE BOAT STORAGE FACILITY.
IT'S NOT THE REQUIRED FENCE ALONG THE BOUNDARY. AND THE OTHER IS FOR THE RETENTION POND ITSELF. THAT IS A SAFETY ISSUE ACTUALLY.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT. >> AND THE -- HOW HIGH IS THE SCREEN FOR THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE WITH THE SCRIMMAGE.
>> THAT WILL JUSTICE AROUND THE -- THE BOAT FACILITY. SO IF I GO BACK.
>> I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. SOMEBODY IS NOT ON ME. IF YOU ARE IN OFFICE LISTENING AND TALKING TO OTHER PEOPLE, YOU ARE NOT ON ME RIGHT NOW. PLEASE, VIEW YOUR PHONE.
>> FOR THE -- I'M SORRY. I'M NOT MAKING IT CLEAR ENOUGH. THIS IS THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE.
>> RIGHT. >> SO THAT IS THE ONLY PLACE THAT THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE IN THE SCREENING WOULD BE. AND THEN THE OTHER FENCING MATCH GOING TO SEE HIS EAR. IT'S BUILDING THE WALL OF PUTTING THE FENCE ALONG HERE.
IT'S A LANDSCAPING. >> ALL RIGHT.
SO FOR TODAY, WE HAVE FENCING OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF SCREENING.
AND WE HAVE YOUR LANDSCAPE PLAN TO CONSIDER, IT LOOKS LIKE.
>> RIGHT. >> ALSO HAVE A LIGHTING PLAN
AND I ALSO HAVE A SIGN. >> OKAY.
GREAT. >> I'M SCROLLING THROUGH YOUR APPLICATION. I'M LOOKING FOR THE LIGHTING.
>> IN THIS IS -- THIS IS ACTUALLY LIGHTING. AND I GUESS SINCE I'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY HERE, CAN SHOW YOU BOTH THINGS AT THE SAME TIME RATHER THAN MY POWERPOINT.
THESE ARE THE SAME ONES. THESE ARE INSTALLED BY THE COUNTY.
-- I'M GET A LOT OF BACKGROUND ON SOMEBODY.
>> AGAIN, SOMEBODY IS NOT ON MUTE. WOULD EVERYBODY PLEASE CHECK THEIR PHONES AND PUT THEM ON MUTE IF YOU ARE NOT CURRENTLY ACTIVELY SPEAKING TO THE
MEETING? >> AND SO THIS IS -- THIS IS FOR THE BOAT FACILITY, THE OTHER PARTY WILL NOT HAVE IT SO THIS IS JUST FOR THE BOAT FACILITY IN THESE ARE 20 FEET HIGH AND AGAIN THEY ARE THE STANDARD THAT THE COUNTY INSTALLS. SO -- THIS WOULD ALSO BE BLACK AS WELL TO KEEP THAT CONSISTENT
ALONG WITH EVERYTHING. >> OKAY.
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>> SHALL I GO ON FROM THAT? ANY QUESTIONS?
>> PLEASE GOD. I'M STILL LOOKING FOR THE APPLICATION.
FOR SOME REASON, I'M NOT SEEING THE LIGHTING IN THE APPLICATION.
>> I DON'T THINK IT MADE IT INTO THE REPORT. I'M NOT SURE?
>> IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT. >> I WASN'T SURE IF I MISSED THAT ARE NOT. I CAN'T FIND MY COPY OF IT EITHER.
I HAVEN'T VIEWED IT, HOWEVER -- I HAVE REVIEWED IT, HOWEVER.
>> OKAY. LET'S DO THIS, WHY DON'T WE GET THE COMMITTEE ENGAGED HERE AND LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS. WHEN WE START WITH THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. WHO WANTS TO START THAT DISCUSSION?
ANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS. >> THIS IS ALLISON.
THIS IS KIND OF MIXED WITH THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE. IS THERE LANDSCAPING THAT WILL
HIDE THE FENCE? >> I'M HAVING TROUBLE FOLLOWING THE SLIDES. I CANNOT TELL WHAT IS WHAT.
>> ALL RIGHT. THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. AND YES.
THE ONLY -- THE LANDSCAPING THAT -- THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE AS I MENTIONED, WOULD BE ALONG IN HERE IT WOULD BE LANDSCAPED ALONG THE EXTERIOR, WHICH IS SOUTH ROSCOE BOULEVARD AND THEN LANDSCAPED ALONG SOUTH ROSCOE EXTENSION. AND THEN WE WILL INSTALL THE BUFFER THAT GOES ALONG THE RETENTION AREA.
>> COULD YOU JUST POINT OUT WHERE THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE IS GOING TO BE.
>> IT GOES AROUND. >> SO THE LANDSCAPING WILL HIDE IT ON THE EXTERIOR AREAS AND ROADWAYS?
BUT AGAIN, SINCE IT IS CHAIN-LINK, WE DECIDED IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE A VISUAL SCREEN TO IT, TOO, EITHER A FABRIC OR AGAIN, THOSE FINAL PANELS THAT SLIP DOWN INTO IT.
>> AND TELL ME AGAIN WHAT HEIGHT THE CHAIN-LINK IS KEY.
>> THAT IS AN EIGHT FOOT HIGH FENCE.
>> IT WON'T TOTALLY SCREEN THE TOPS OF BOATS, BUT IT WILL DEFINITELY SCREEN ALL OF THE AREA FOR THE TRAILERS AND THE BOTTOM PARTS OF THE BOAT.
>> GLENN? >> I'M OKAY WITH IT.
THIS IS DAVID CHRISTINE. IT APPEARS TO ME THAT IT NEEDS THE EXTENT OF WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE KET COVERED ALONG THE ROADWAY AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BEING EXPOSED TO THE INTERIOR PARKING FROM A LANDSCAPE PERSPECTIVE. SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
NORMALLY, WHEN WE REVIEW LANDSCAPE PLANS, WE'VE GOT A VISUAL OF EACH OF THE NATIVE PLANTS SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT THOSE ACTUALLY -- WHAT THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THAT'S JUST A POINT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE.
>> YES. >> WE HAVE THE LIST BUT NOT THE
PLANTS. >> CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT THE TYPES OF PLANTINGS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THE EFFECTIVE THIS EIGHT
FOOT HIGH FENCE? >> I'M GOING TO TURN THAT OVER TO CHRIS AND SEE -- IS A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND HE KNOWS MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DO.
>> GREAT. >> SO, WE'VE GOT WALTERS BY
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BURNHAM HEDGING GOING IN. THAT IS ALSO ACCOMPANIED BY -- ANOTHER NATIVE -- THESE ARE ALL NATIVES AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE.>> CHRIS, COULD YOU MAY BE FOLLOWED -- I'M GOING TO POINT TO SOMETHING AND COULD YOU MAY BE HOLLOW WHERE I AM POINTING TO?
>> IF YOU -- IF YOU WOULD GO FROM THE NORTHWEST SIDE AND GO TO THE NORTHEAST SIDE AND THEN COME DOWN SOUTH ROSCOE EXTENSION AND NOT ALONG THE RETENTION POND ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND JUST GIVE THEM AN IDEA OF WHAT IS IN EACH OF THOSE PLANTINGS.
>> SURE. SO THE -- FORM CIRCLE -- LIVE OAKS, W LOOKING FROM THE WEST.
BY BURNHAM. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER MASS PLANTING OF -- AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROADWAY, WE'VE GOT FOR MAGNOLIA TREES AND WE HAVE MORE HUSBAND THIS LEADS UP TO -- AND GOES THROUGH THE THICK RED CEDAR TREE.
>> CHRIS, WE ARE HAVING A LITTLE HARD TIME HEARING YOU. YOU ARE GARBLED.
>> OKAY. I'M NOT SURE WHERE I LEFT OFF WITH YOU.
THE ROADWAY LEADS UP TO -- AND THEN THERE IS A FLORIDA HANNAH? AND THEN -- (INDISCERNIBLE) ALMOST THE ENTRY DRIVE, NORTH. WHICH IS NATIVE.
>> JUST TO POINT OUT TO EVERYBODY, ALONG THE BOTTOM PART, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CEDAR TREES AND OTHER TREES AND SHRUBS THAT WILL REMAIN THAT ARE ALREADY -- THAT WERE THERE
FROM BEFORE. >> IS ON THE ROADWAY SIDE OR
INTERIOR. >> THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE THAT FACES ACTUALLY THE ROAD TAKES A TURN THERE.
>> UH-UH (AFFIRMATIVE). >> SO IT ACTUALLY IS -- PART OF THAT IS ALONG THE ROAD, TO ROADS. WE'VE GOT THREE ROADS.
>> AND AS FAR AS THE FENCING, I GUESS WHY BLACK -- I THINK THE FENCING BEING BLACK IS FINE, BUT WHY A BLACK FABRIC AS OPPOSED TO A DARK GREEN?
>> WELL, ACTUALLY MY CLIENT WANTED THE DARK GREEN AND I THOUGHT THE BLACK WOULD LOOK BETTER. WHEN WE GET TO THE SIGNAGE, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE SIGNAGE, WE'RE DOING BLUE AND KIND OF ON A GRAY BACKGROUND OR WHATEVER AND USING THE BLACK.
IT WAS USING THE BLACK AS A NEUTRAL COLOR. BUT WE ARE OPTIONAL.
BECAUSE THE GREENS ARE A VERY BRIGHT GREEN WHEN YOU GET THEM. THEY ARE NOT A MUTED GREEN.
>> OKAY. THAT'S WORTH KEEPING IN MIND?
>> SO IF WE GO ON THIS, JUST THE AERIAL, I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT HELP EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND
NOW LOOKING BACK AT IT. >> LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
>> THE BOAT RAMP, WITH GOD SOUTH ROSCOE EXTENSION AND THE WILL OF GOD CANAL ROAD THAT COMES ALONG. THE LANDSCAPING THAT EXISTS ALONG HERE WILL BE ALONG THE ROAD. IT'S NOT THE PALM VALLEY ROAD REQUIREMENT.
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THAT GOES DOWN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT THE BULK OF THE LANDSCAPING THAT YOU WILL SEE IS ALONG SOUTH ROSCOE IN ON THIS AREA.>> CAN YOU POINT TO THAT FOR US? BECAUSE YOUR PHOTOGRAPH IS KIND OF SMALL. IF YOU COULD ZOOM IN, THAT WOULD HELP.
>> WE HAVE THE BRIDGE THERE. PALM VALLEY BRIDGE. AND TO THE NORTH THERE, THAT IS
THE RESTAURANT, RIGHT? >> CORRECT.
>> IN THE NOW YOU ARE ON YOUR PARCEL NOW.
>> NOW I AM ON MY PARCEL. >> UH-UH (AFFIRMATIVE)..
RIGHT. SO THAT LITTLE ROAD THAT COMES OFF SOUTH ROAD -- SOUTH ROSCOE BOULEVARD EXTENSION TAKES OFF CANAL. THERE'S SOME FOLKS THAT LIVE ON THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY RIGHT THERE.
THAT MAKES SENSE. AND SO THAT VEGETATION WALL IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO WANT TO BE PRETTY ROBUST WITH THE NEIGHBORS THEMSELVES.
>> EVENTUALLY, THAT WILL HAVE TO BE A FENCE AND THEN WHEN THE BUILDING GOES HERE, THAT HAS TO BE A WALL BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL.
>> IT BE A. OKAY. >> THE RIGHT NOW, WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING ALL THE VEGETATION IN GETTING OUT BECAUSE THAT -- AND THEN DOING THE FENCE AND WALL AT THE SAME TIME SO THAT THEY LOOK CONSISTENT.
ALL RIGHT. AND I GUESS IF WE LOOK IN THE AERIAL, WE HAVE THE FUNNY SHAPED RETENTION POND CLOSE TO THE HOUSES THEY ARE.
>> YES. >> WHICH IS WHAT? THE PREASSEMBLED ALUMINUM FENCING IS GOING TO GO AROUND THAT THING?
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THE FENCE CHOICES I UNDERSTAND. I THINK THE LANDSCAPE PLAN LOOKS PRETTY DECENT.
THE -- ONE QUESTION I WOULD ASK FOR FOLKS ON THE COMMITTEE IS WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE SCREENING THAT WOULD BE ASSEMBLED ON TO THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE?
>> THIS IS DAVE CHRISTINE. MY PREFERRED OPTION WOULD BE THE -- FABRIC SCREENING.
WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE SLANTS. AS TIME GOES ON.
I ALSO THINK THAT THE CHOICE OF GOING WITH THE BLACK IS GOOD BECAUSE OF WHAT IS SEEN IN THE PAST THE SAMPLES HERE, THE GREEN, IS TO SHAMROCK GREEN. AND ONCE THE LANDSCAPE STARTS TO MATURE, IT'S GOING TO BLEND IN THE BACKGROUND AND I THINK THE BLACK IS A GOOD COLOR FOR THAT. WITH REGARD TO THE METAL FENCING AROUND THE RETAINAGE AREA, I THINK THAT YOU ARE RIGHT ON WITH THE TWO THAT YOU HAVE PROPOSED THERE.
THE OTHER REASON THAT I WOULD NOT WANT TO GO WITH THE SLANTS IS NOT NLY BECAUSE THEY APPEAR TO BE INDIVIDUALLY PLACED AND IF ONE GETS DAMAGE, AS THEY DO, AND WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WERE NOT GETTING ANY REFLECTION OFF OF FINAL PRODUCTS AND WE ARE MORE APT TO GET A LIGHT REFLECTION OFF OF THAT THAN THE SCREEN OR THE MASH, RATHER.
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO OFFER TODAY ON THAT. THANK YOU.
>> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH DAVE -- DAVE'S COMMENTS.
I FORGOT TO ON MUTE. THAT IS FINE WITH ME. THANK YOU.
I LIKE THE BLACK AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST.
>> OKAY. WHY DON'T WE TAKE A LOOK AT SIGNAGE THAN.
>> ALREADY. >> SO AS LONG AS I'M HERE I THINK I WILL STAY HERE. I THINK IT'S EASIER. (LAUGHING).
>> I AGREE. SO, TODAY I WENT TO GET THE SAMPLES TO GO WITH THE PAINT SAMPLES AND SO I DID END UP GETTING THEM BUT I CHANGED THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE BENJAMIN MORE
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SO THEY ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT COLORING. I HAD THESE FOR EACH OF YOU.(LAUGHING) WHICH WOULD BE THE COLORS THAT ARE BASICALLY HERE. THIS WOULD BE THE BACKGROUND.
THIS WOULD BE THE ROSCOE LANDING PARK AND THIS WOULD BE FOR THE SWEDES AS WELL AS THE PALM VALLEY FLORIDA. UNDER CLOSE TO THE COLOR SAMPLES.
SO I DO HAVE THE ACTUAL SAMPLES. I DON'T KNOW IF THE SHOP ANY BETTER. WE WILL GIVE IT A TRY. THE TOP ONE -- I WOULD SAY THAT IS PRETTY CLOSE. THE TOP ONE, AGAIN, IS THE ROSCOE LANDING.
THE ONE THAT SAYS NUMBER TWO IS BASICALLY THE BACKGROUND ON THE SIGN ITSELF.
>> AND THE LIGHT BLUE BATCHES THE PALM VALLEY.
>> OKAY. YEAH. I DON'T -- I THINK THE SIGN LOOKS NICE. IT SEEMS APPROPRIATE. FOR ITS LOCATION AND THE USE OF THAT FACILITY. IT'S PRETTY UNDERSTATED EXIT WE UNDERSTAND AND WANT YOU ALL TO -- WHEN HE GETS READY TO DO THE BUILDING, WE ARE PLANNING ON KEEPING THE SAME COLOR, BUT IT MAY CHANGE. IF IT DOES THE SIGN WILL GET REPAINTED SO THAT EVERYTHING MATCHES. JACOBSON I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PAINT PALACE TO GO WITH.
SO WE'RE KIND OF ESTABLISHING THIS AND WE ARE ALSO DOING THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING IN KEEPING THE BLACK TO GO ALONG WITH THE LIGHT POLES IN THE FENCING.
>> SOCIAL BLACK, FOR THE BARN LIGHTS, THOSE WILL -- THAT WILL BE THE LIGHTING ON THE SIGN?
>> YES. >> WHERE'S THE SIGN CAN BE LOCATED? CAN YOU SHOW US ON THE AERIAL?
>> I CAN. >> THE SIGN -- ACTUALLY THE PARKING LOT WILL COME OUT HERE AND THAT'S WHERE THE SIGN WILL BE.
SO IF I PUT THE -- THE PLAN ON, JUST SO YOU CAN SEE IT, THAT IS WHERE PEOPLE WILL PARK.
AND THAT IS AN EXIT. PEOPLE ARE NOT DRIVING THROUGH THIS WAY.
AS I SAID, THAT WAS FOR FIRE SERVICES. SO THE SIGN IS WHERE THAT
LITTLE OVAL IS. >> I'M JUST NOW SEEING WHAT YOU ARE SHOWING US. GOT IT.
>> OKAY. >> YOU MAY HAVE MISSED THIS BUT WHAT IS THE -- WHAT IS THE LIGHTING TYPE THAT'S ON THE SIGN THAT IS DRAWN THERE?
>> THE LIGHTING IS THE GOOSENECK IS ASSIGNED LIKE WE DID WHEN I DID THE PIZZA ONE.
>> OKAY. >> I'M GLAD YOU SHOWED THOSE COLORS BECAUSE THE COLORS THAT ARE IN JUDGMENT THEY LOOK DIFFERENT ON THE COMPUTER SCREEN VERSUS THE -- VERSUS THE VIDEO THERE. SO GLAD TO SEE THAT IT LOOKS
MORE GRAY IT'S PUTTY OR TAN. >> EVEN AS I PRINTED OUT IT DID. IT DOESN'T WHEN YOU KIND OF MATCH THE THING TO IT.
>> CAN I POINT OUT THE ROSCOE LANDING COLOR ON THE SAMPLES? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A NICE DEEP BLUE IN THE PICTURE BUT I'M NOT -- WHICH ONE WAS IT IN THE.
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>> IT'S THE. >> THERE'S A DELAY.
>> YES. SO, IT'S THE ONE IN THE CENTER.
>> SEE THAT LOOKS LIKE A LOT BRIGHTER IN THE SAMPLE. THAT ONE?
>> YES. >> AND THEN, THE OTHER BLUE IS
THIS ONE HAS THE MARK ON IT. >> THAT'S THE ROSCOE LANDING
LETTERING, RIGHT? >> ROSCOE LANDING WOULD BE THE BRIGHTER BLUE AND AND THE PALER BLUE WOULD BE THE PALM VALLEY.
>> THE I LIKE THE MORE NAVY BLUE THAT IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE PICTURE, RATHER THAN THAT BRIGHT, BRIGHT BLUE. IS ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A FEELING WITH THAT.
>> THE NEXT ONE DOWN ON MY SWATCH (LAUGHING), THERE'S TWO. WERE LOSING A LITTLE BIT OF THE COLORING. THIS ONE IS DEFINITELY A DARKER BLUE.
THIS ONE IS LIKE A REALLY DARK NAVY BLUE. I THINK WITH THE BLACK, THAT MIGHT NOT BE VERY GOOD BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY GO WITH A LITTLE BIT DARKER.
IF THAT WAS. >> I THINK THE DARKER BLUE WOULD BE PREFERABLE. THAT'S WHY LEFT THEM ON. AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE -- TOLD IS SHOVELING ON THE GTD, THERE IS A LAG. YOU'RE TALKING AND THINGS DON'T
MOVE FOR GOOD 10 OR 15 SECONDS. >> THAT ONE.
THE MIDDLE ONE. >> YES, MA'AM.
THE MIDDLE COLOR ONLY LEFT SAMPLE WHERE KAREN'S FINGERS ARE.
>> WHAT NUMBER IS THAT ONE. >> THAT NUMBER IS 2066 Ã20.
>> AND NANCY BENJAMIN MOORE? >> OKAY.
>> AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OPTION ON THE OTHER TWO THERE'S THE 20 6550 IN THE 20 6540.
>> WILL THOSE ARE A BIT MORE TONED DOWN ANYWAY. THERE A BIT MORE WASHED.
I'LL FIGURE THAT BRIGHT. I AGREE WITH THAT WHATEVER WAS 2066-20, BABY BLUE AS TO ROSCOE LANDING. LETTERING COLOR. OKAY.
SO THAT'S -- WE'VE GOT SIGNAGE, LANDSCAPE, WE TALK ABOUT BENSON, OTHER OTHER ITEMS THAT
WE NEED TO CONSIDER? >> THE LIGHTING.
>> RIGHT. WHICH WAS IN IN THE PACKET. I KNOW YOU TOUCHED ON IT BRIEFLY. MAYBE YOU COULD JUST SHOW US THE SLIDES.
>> AND AGAIN THERE IS NO LIGHTING THIS IS THROUGH THE AREA ITSELF.
AND IT IS -- IT IS MOTION SENSITIVE TYPE LIGHTING. AND IT DAMNS.
SO YOU CAN DIM IT AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY.
>> OKAY. IT'S NOT SHOWING UP ON THE SCREEN AT LEAST THE ONE I'M
LOOKING AT YET. >> DO YOU SEE IT YET?
>> I DO. I SEE THE SITE LIGHTING IN THE ROSCOE LANDING.
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IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOT SOME LIGHTING HEADS. IT'S HARD TO SEE THOUGH.MAYBE YOU CAN ZOOM IN. >> AS I MENTIONED THIS IS THE LIGHTING THAT THE COUNTY RECOMMENDS AND YOU PAY THEM TO INSTALL IT.
>> OKAY. >> SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH YOUR STANDARD HAS BEEN USED IN A LOT OF THE PARKING LOTS.
>> UNDERSTOOD. IT'S IT'S AN LED FLATHEAD.
>> YES. >> I CAN SEE THE PHOTO METRICS ON THE PLAN, BUT IS THE -- ARE THE LIGHT STANDARDS ONLY AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PARKING?
>> YES. YOU PROBABLY CANNOT SEE THE RED DOTS.
>> SO THERE'S NO -- THERE'S NO LIGHT STANDARDS OUT THERE. EVERYTHING IS AT THE PERIMETER.
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CONFIRM?
>> CAN YOU SEE THOSE, YET? THE RED?
>> YES. MUCH BETTER. THANK YOU.
>> OKAY. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE BEYOND THAT SITE LIGHTING THAT YOU MENTION. IT'S PRETTY COMMON AND INSTALLED BY THE COUNTY?
OKAY. WHAT ELSE IS PART OF THIS APPLICATION, IF ANYTHING.
>> I THINK THAT COVERS IT (LAUGHING).
>> ALL RIGHT. WILL THAT'S GOOD. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IS ON THE COMMITTEE THAT HAS ANYTHING THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT OR ASK?
>> OKAY. WELL I THINK -- I'M SATISFIED. I MOVED TO APPROVE ARCCC 2020-09 ROSCOE LANDING AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT BUT THE ONE CONDITION THAT THE BLUE LETTERING FOR THE ROSCOE LANDING ON THE SIGN HE SWITCHED TO THE DARKER BLUE.
>> SECOND BY ALLISON. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
>> I HAVE A HARD TIME KEEPING MY BUTTON ON AND OFF.
>> IT'S OKAY. SO LET'S JUST BE CLEAR. IT'S A AYE MYSELF IN A AYE FROM DAVID, A AYE FROM GLENN INTO AYE FROM ALLISON?
OKAY. THEN IT'S UNANIMOUS. GREAT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. WE ARE READY TO GO.
>> GOOD. THANK YOU. YOU'RE DOING IT RIGHT.
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LET'S GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, ARCC 2020-11 NELSON. THIS IS THE WALL SIGN.AND WE WILL HEAR FROM THE COUNTY ON THAT.
>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, ARCC 2020-11 NELSON,.
IT'S LOCATED AT 820 A1 A NORTH AT SUITE B3 21 AND REQUEST FOR DESIGN APPROVAL FOR A 23.9 SQUARE-FOOT WALL SIGN, INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED WITH WHITE LED, AND A TRANSLUCENT BLUE VINYL TOP OF THE END. BLACK TRIM AND RETURNS.
I HAVE IT PICTURED UP ON THE SCREEN, WHICH I AM SURE YOU WILL SEE MOMENTARILY.
I HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE APPLICANT, BUT I AM NOT SURE WHETHER THEY ARE ON THE PHONE.
>> I AM HERE. THIS IS CHAD FORBES WITH BROWN ENTERPRISES.
>> THANK YOU CHAD. THANKS FOR HANGING WITH US.
>> AND I. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, NELSON IS REPLACING THEIR EXISTING SIGN. FOUR-WEEK FIELD AND BEASLEY NOW IT'S NELSON WEEKLY AND BEASLEY. THEY JUST GO BY NELSON IT'S A SMALLER SIGN THAN WHAT THEY HAVE. IT IS CHANNEL LETTERS. THE JULY, WHICH IS THE TRIM
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AROUND THE EDGE WILL BE BLACK. THE EDGES OF THE LETTERS WILL BE BLACK AND BOTH THE FACES WILL BE WHITE WHEN THEY ILLUMINATE AND YOU'VE GOT THE LITTLE BLUE LOGO FOR THE UPPERPART OF THE LAST AND. >> IT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD SIGN CHANGE. AND THAT IS THE PREFERRED LETTERING MOUNT.
AND SIGNAGE. HONESTLY, I THINK IT IS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD APPLICATION AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ISSUES FOR THE APPLICANT.
I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMITTEE.
>> I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD. IT'S FINE WITH ME.
>> HAS. >> HAVE ANYTHING TO AND.
>> IT DOES NOT SAY NELSON ARCHITECT. OCCIDENTAL THEY WANT, THAT'S
YEAH. >> WE DID NOT HEAR YOU, DAVE.
>> I'M FINE WITH IT. I DO NOT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
THAT'S AN EASY ONE, THEN. I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE ARCC 2020-11 NELSON SIGNAGE AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> SECOND BY DAVE CHRISTINE.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. >> ALLISON, AYE.
>> DAVE CHRISTINE, AYE. >> YOU HAVE TO UNMUTE YOUR
PHONE, GLENN. >> SORRY (LAUGHING).
>> SO UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT WITH THE APPLICANT'S SUBMITTED SIGN DESIGN.
>> THANK YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU.
AS THE END OF THE AGENDA ITEMS. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE HAVE NO WORKSHOPS OR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS TO LOOK AT. THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING IS WEDNESDAY, JULY 22, 2020.
HOPEFULLY, THAT IS AT 5 PM. I DO NOT SEE A TIME.
>> YES, SIR. IT WILL BE AT 5 PM.
>> IT'S ALLISON. IS ANYWAY WE CAN GET TO A BUILDING SO WE CAN BE IN PERSON? I FIND THIS VERY DIFFICULT.
>> IT IS CHALLENGING. I THINK IT'S EASIER WITH ZOOM BECAUSE WE CAN BETTER SEE IN APPLICANT'S -- THEY CAN SHARE THE SCREEN WITH US AND WE CAN MOVE THROUGH SLIDES BETTER THAN WITH THE JULY. THAT WE WERE HAVING TODAY.
>> DID WE FIND OUT IF THE SENIOR CENTER IS AVAILABLE AGAIN?
>> I DON'T KNOW. JACOB, WHERE ARE WE ON WITH THAT.
>> I HAVE NOT FOUND THAT OUT YET. WE ARE IN A PECULIAR CIRCUMSTANCE OBVIOUSLY WITH EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS SORT OF THE NORM FOR THE MEETING PROGRAMS. I AM OPEN TO BRINGING ZOOM BACK TO THE TABLE. BUT AS FAR AS MEETING LOCATIONS, IN ORDER TO ALLOW ANYBODY TO POTENTIALLY BE REMOTE, THIS IS OUR HEADQUARTER BASED FOR BROADCAST.
AND SO IF WE WERE ALL TO BE IN THE SAME ROOM, DOES NOT A PROBLEM BUT IT BRINGS UP ALL SORTS OF OTHER ISSUES WITH PUBLIC ACCESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IF WE'RE TRYING TO FORCE PEOPLE TO COME TO A MEETING VERSUS HAVE IT VIRTUALLY. THIS IS THE DE FACTO MEETING
>> I UNDERSTAND. WE ARE ALL STUCK WITH THAT IN ALL OF ONE OR ALL OF THE OTHER.
THAT'S FINE. I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE APPLICANT SAID JUST TO GO BACK TO ZOOM. THAT'S MY PREFERENCE. I USE IT ALL THE TIME IN MY PRACTICE. IT'S HOW WE DO DEPOSITIONS NOW WITH EXHIBITS AND SHARING EXHIBITS AND MEDIATIONS. IT JUST SEEMS TO WORK A LOT BETTER AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE DELAY IN LAG THAT KAREN WAS STRUGGLING WITH WHEN SHE WAS TRYING TO MOVE PAPERS AROUND ON
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THAT PRESENTATION PODIUM. >> YEAH.
IF WE COULD DO THAT, IF EVERYONE IS GOOD WITH THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO GO BACK TO ZOOM IF
WE COULD, JACOB. >> THAT WORKS WITH ME.
I WILL COORDINATE WITH OUR IT STAFF TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
>> OKAY. WELL THANKS AND I WILL KEEP MY EYE OUT FOR THE ORDERS SO WE CAN GET THOSE KNOCKED OUT IN A TIMELY MANNER AND GET THEM BACK TO YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. AND SEEING THAT THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON THIS AGENDA, I MOVED TO ADJOURN. SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >> AYE.
>> AYE. >> THAT WAS ALLISON AND DAVE BEFORE THAT'S EVERYONE. WE'RE
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