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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND G. WELCOME TO THE PLANNING AND ZONG AGENCY FOR JUNE 18TH, 2020.
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AS A PRELIMINARY MATTER I AM MIE KOPPENHAFER CHAIR OF THE PLANNID ZONING PASSAGE PERMIT ME TO CONT ANY AGENCY AND STAFF MEMBERS WHT PHYSICALLY HERE PRESENT CAN HEA. FELLOW AGENCY MEMBERS WHEN I CAR NAME PLEASE RESPOND AFFIRMATIVE. IF YOU'RE NOT HERE, YOU DON'T HO RESPOND AFFIRMATIVE APPARENTLY,DWE'LL TAKE ROLL. DR. MCCORMICK. >> I'M HERE.
>> WONDERFUL. DR. HILSENBECK. >> PRESENT.
>> MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER IS HERE.
MS. PERKINS. >> HERE. >> THANK YOU.
MR. ALAIMO. >> HERE. >> AND MR. MATOVINA.
>> I'M HERE. >> GREAT. I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE ALL NOT WEAG SWEATPANTS AROUND THE HOUSE THE. MAKING ME JEALOUS. LET'S SEE.
INTRODUCTION TO THE MEETING INCG REMOTE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SEC. GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO TS REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNINGD ZONING PASSAGE IN ORDER TO MITIE TRANSMISSION OF THE CORONAVIRUSD REDUCE RISK OFY COVID-19 ILLNESE GOVERNOR HAS SUSPENDED THE REQUT OF PHYSICAL QUORUM OF A PHYSICAM AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSS HAS ADOPTED PROCEDURES TO CONDUT MEETINGS USING REMOTE PARTICIPAN THROUGH EMERGENCY TECHNOLOGIC PLOBLGMATION NUMBER 2020-3 SO TE PUBLIC HAS A MEANS AT THE COMMET WITHOUT PHYSICALLY ATTENDING. ALONG WITH PRIOR COMMUNICATIONS INCLUDING EMAIL, THE PUBLIC WILE ABLE TO COMMENT BY TELEPHONE WHE WATCHING THE MEETING VIA GTV ORY STREAMING POSTED ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE. THE WEBSITE ALSO PROVIDES THE TE NUMBER TO USE TO CALL INTO THE .
EVEN IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DT PROVIDE COMMENT, PARTICIPANTS AE ADVISED THAT PEOPLE MAY BE LISTN WHO DO NOT PROVIDE COMMENT AND THOSS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO IDENTIFY TH.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS MEETING IG RECORDED. FOR THOSE OF YOU CALLING IN TO , IF YOU RECEIVE A BUSY SIGNAL, PE CALL BACK. IN ADDITION, MESA SELF-TIME THE THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT BECAUSEH THE THREE-MINUTE COMMENT TIMER E VISIBLE TO YOU, BECAUSE OF THE N THE TRANSMISSION OF THE MEETINGE TIMING MAY BE MORE ACCURATE FINALLY, PLEASE MUTE YOUR PHONE -- HEAR THAT, BILL? PLEASE MUTE YOUR PHONE WHILE YOE WAITING TO COMMENT AND MUTE THER ON YOUR TELEVISION WHILE SPEAKIG FIVE TO NINE SECOND DELAY IN THL PRESENTATIONS AND PERHAPS UP TO AND IF WE EXPERIENCE ANY TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, LIKE WE HAVE, WE L RECESS WHILE THEY ARE BEING RESD RESUME THE MEETING. MEETING MATERIALS.
THERE ARE MATERIALS FOR THIS MEG AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE. GO TO THE HOME PAGE UNDER AGENDS AND CLICK ON THE GROWTH MANAGEMD PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY MEETD YOU WILL SEE THE LINKS TO THE AD THE INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEMS IN O ACCESS ALL OF THE SUPPORTING MA. LET'S SEE.
I DID THE ROLL CALL SO THAT'S AT FUN TOBE DONE. MR. WAINRIGHT, I BELIEVE YOU'REO
READ THE PUBLIC NOTICES STATEME. >> HELLO. IT'S VERY EXCITING.
MIKE AND I HAVE A DEAL TO SEE HY OF YOU WE CAN PUT TO SLEEP BEFOE THROUGH READING THIS STUFF.
>> I DO THE JOKES AROUND HERE, . >> ALL RIGHT THIS IS A PROPER NOTICED PUBLICG HELD IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW. THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TE AGENCY'S AREA OF JURISDICTION AE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUO OFFER COMMENTS AT A DESIGNATED E DURING THE HEARING. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC DESIRIO SPEAK MUST INDICATE SO BY COMPIT A SPEAKER CARD WHICH IS AVAILABE FOYER.
ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS MAY BE HEART THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN. SPEAKER CARDS MAY BE TURNED IN .
THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIMG THE MEETING ON ITEM AND TO A LEF TIME THAT'S SPECIFIED BY THE CH WHICH SHALL BE THREE MINUTES SPEAKERS SHALL IDENTIFY THEMSELM SPEAKERS SHALL IDENTIFY THEMSELM THEY REPRESENT AND THEN STATE TR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIM.
IF THEY DO NOT, THE FACT THAT TY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED E AGENCY IN DETERMINING THE WEIGHR TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY. II. IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL AY
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DECISION MADE WITH RESPECT TO AY MATTER CONSIDERED AT THE HEARING, SUCH PERSON WILL NEED A RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED.ANY PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENTARY EVIE PRESENTED DURING A HEARING, SUCS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS, PHOTOGRAPHS, R WRITTEN STATEMENTS, WILL BE RETY STAFF AS PART OF THE RECORD. THE RECORD WILL THEN BE AVAILAB OTHER AGENCIES FOR THE COUNTY IY REVIEW OR REPEAL RELATED TO THAM III.
BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THATE BEGINNING OF EACH ITEM THEY SHOE WHETHER THEY HAD ANY COMMUNICATH THE APPLICANT OR ANY OTHER PERSN REGARDING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE M OUTSIDE THE FORMAL HEARING OF TE AGENCY. IF SUCH COMMUNICATION HAS OCCURE AGENCY MEMBER SHOULD THEN IDENTE PERSON INVOLVED IN THE MATERIAL OF THE COMMUNICATION IV.
CIVILITY CLAUSE. WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANR EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE.
WE WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO E ISSUES WE WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS.
>> MR. KOPENHAFER: THANK YOU, MR. WAINRIGHT. UP NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THIS IS A TIME WHEN THE PUBLIC K ON ANY TOPIC THAT GOES NOT ON TA TODAY.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE TO WOULDO HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT? NOT ON THE AGENDA ITEMS. SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO TO THE PH. BEAR WITH US. WE'RE JUST DOUBLE-CHECKING.
>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> CONGREGATION: THANK YOU VERY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE ARE TO THAT PUBLIC COMMENTS. AS A REMINDER TO THE AGENCY MEM, THIS HEARING IS FORMATTED DIFFE.
IN THE PAST WE USED TO HAVE THEO THE PRESENTATION OF THE REPORTSD THAT HAS NOW CHANGED, SO THE FOS THE APPLICANT WILL STEP UP, GIVA PRESENTATION OF THEIR APPLICATID THEN WE'LL GO INTO A QUESTION-AR SESSION WITH THE APPLICANT AND/H THE STAFF AS WELL. AND THEN EVENTUALLY HAVE PUBLICT AND CLOSE THAT OUT. WHERE WE'RE JUST WITH THE AGENC. THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF AY RIDE HERE AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST MEETING. WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.
WITH THAT SAID, BEFORE I CALL AT NUMBER 1, WHICH I DON'T HAVE TH, I'M GOING TO ASK IF THERE IS ANY EX PARTE TO DECLARE FROM OUR AGY MEMBERS. DR. MCCORMICK, DO YOU HAVE ANY E TO DECLARE? KEPT THAT MUTE BUTTON ON TO ALO. DR. HILSENBECK.
>>ION. >> MR. WAINRIGHT. >> NO.
>> MR. ALAIMO. >> NO. >> AND MR. MATOVINA.
>> NO. >> ALL RIGHT. DR. MCCORMICK, ARE YOU --
>> HEY, I WENT FROM ON MUTE TO D I'M BACK ON UNMUTE. ALL RIGHT?
>> OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY EX PARTE TO DEC? >> THE ANSWER IS NO.
>> WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ROLL CALLO APPARENTLY. ALL RIGHT.
SO FOR ITEM NUMBER 1 IF WE COULE THE APPLICANT STEP UP. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRR
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THE RECORD AS I UNDERSTAND IT, L BE HEARING ITEM NUMBER 1 AND 2,E ZONING VARIANCE AND THE SUBMAJ.WHRADZ THAT STAND FOR? SPECIAL USE PERMIT. ALTOGETHER HERE.
>> DUNCAN, 9153 PROSPERITY LAKE, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. >> AND I'M ELIZABETH CUN DUNCANN BERRY LANE, ALSO IN FLORIDA ANDE WITH DUNCAN & DUNCAN CONSTRUCTIN BEHALF OF THE PRAYER CENTER.
SO WE HAVE TWO VARIANCE APPLICAS THAT WE ARE SUBMITTING, ONE IS R SPECIAL USE AND THE OTHER FOR TE ZONING. WE'LL GO OVER THIS SPECIAL USE . WHICH IS TO ALLOW CONTINUATION A NON-CONFORMING CHURCH AND TO ALR THE EXPANSION FOR A PARKING LOTD ADJACENT -- ON THE ADJACENT LOT.
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OH THE COMOICH IS ELECTED 950 PL STREET, AND THE TWO LOTS ARE ATD 541 NORTH BREVARD STREET.IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED -- OR I GUE FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL T RHODEN RS-3 FOR RESIDENTIAL SINE FAMILY. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT THE WR SCHOOL IS TO THE SOUTH OF US ANE THE TWO LOTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSIE LOCATED. SO TO SUMMARIZE, WE ARE REQUESTE USE, THE PERMIT TOW SECTION, CONTINUATION OF A NON-CONFORMINH AND TO ALLOW FOR THE EXPANSION E PARKING ON THE ADJACENT LOTS CH1 AND 441 NORTH BREVARD STREET. THE CHURCH WAS BUILT IN 1955.
THE CONGREGATION IS LESS THAN 1S BUT THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO H1 PATRONS IN THE CHURCH WHICH IS E ASKING FOR THE ADDITIONAL PARKIR THE FUTURE. THERE'S AN EXISTING FP&L POLE TE WOULD PUT A LIGHT ON AT THE ENT, AND WE ALSO HAVE THE ZONING REQR THE SETBACK SET SIDE Z. SET.
SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLT SHOWS IT'S AN UNPAVED PARKING LD THE CHURCH.
THERE WAS SOME WETLANDS. THERE'S GRATION THAT WE WOULD B, SOME NEW TREES THAT WE TWO HAVEO REPLACE THE ONES THAT WOULD BE D FROM THE PARKING, FOR THE PARKI. THERE'S AN EXIT EXISTING HANDICP PARKING SPACE THAT IS AT THE FRF THE CHURCH, AND THE EXISTING PAS HERE, WHERE WE WOULD BE PUTTINGE
LIGHTS. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. SO I SAW THE NEAT LITTLE DRAWIND DONE, IF WE CAN GO BACK A COUPLF SLIDES, PETER, TO THE SITE PLAN. YOU WILL BE SUBMITTING FOR A PEO DO THE CLEARING, DO THE GRAVEL.
>> YES. >> SO ALL THAT WILL GO THROUGH R DEVELOPMENT REVIEW CHANNELS.
>> YES. >> SO IF ANY STORM WATER RETENTR ANYTHING ELSE IS NECESSARY THERT
WILL ALL GET PICKED UP? >> YES. >> OKAY.
LET'S SEE. AGAIN THE FORMAT IS A LITTLE STE TODAY, SO DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIM
ANY AGENCY MEMBERS? I'LL LET YOU JUST THROW IT OUT . >> MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> YEP. >> YES. THIS IS BILL MCCORMICK CORMICK.
I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE A COMMENT, THOUGH. AND MY COMMENT IS I'M GLAD THATY PRESENTED NUMBER 2 AND THEN PRED NUMBER 1 BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY I WAS LOOKING AT, TOO, SO THE BASR THIS WAS A REQUEST FOR THE SPECE PERMIT FOR THE PARKING ON THE AT LOTS.
THAT BEING SAID, IN ORDER TO DOT THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH HAD A RER A ZONING VARIANCE TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ALLOW THE SD FRONT YARD SETBACK AND THE SIDED SETBACK.
I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH REGARD R ONE OF THESE. EITHER ONE OF THESE TWO PROPOSAD THEREFORE WOULD BE WILLING TO SA MOTION FOR THEM UNLESS SOMEBODYE WANTS TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS FIR.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WE'RE NOT READY FOR MOTIONS YETT LET'S CONTINUE DOWN THE LIST IFF THE AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE COMMENTR QUESTIONS.
AGAIN, FOR THE APPLICANT OR FOR. DR. HILSENBECK. >> MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> HELLO. >> I'M SORRY, IF I COULD, JUST O CLARIFY, AND STAFF CAN HELP ME,K THE REQUEST FOR THE SPECIAL USEO ALLOW THE CONTINUING USE OF THE, WHICH IS A SPECIAL USE IN THIS G DISTRICT. IT'S NOT FOR THE PARKING AREA TE ALLOWED.
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SO THAT'S WHAT THE REQUEST IS FT TO CLARIFY DR. MCCORMICK'S COMMS EARLIER.>> . >> IS THAT AS YOU UNDERSTAND IT? >> FOR THE RECORD, MARIE COLEE.
THEY'RE EXPANDING A VARIANCE USD THEY NEED TO GO FORWARD BECAUSES NON-CONFORMING, AND THE SPECIALS TIED TO THE PARKING SO TO EXPANA SPECIAL USE THEY NEED TO BRING O THE CURRENT CODE.
>> >> THE EXPANDED THE FOR THE PAR. >> THERE'S NO EXPANSION TO THE ,
NO, SIR. >> DR. HILSENBECK, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
>> NO QUESTIONS. >> MR. WAINRIGHT? >> A COMMENT.
I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. YOU'RE CONTINUING ON A POSITIVE, BUT THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ATTENTION, TO BE SURE, EVEN THOU ARE TAKING CARE OF YOUR NEIGHBOU
EXPAND THE ACTIVITY THERE. >> YES. >> THANK YOU.
>> ME. AGAIN, THIS IS THE EXPLANATION , JUST BECAUSE MAYBE IT NEEDS IT.
THE CHURCH WAS BUILT IN 1955 ORM NOT SURE, ONE OF THOSE TWO DATED SUPERSEDES ALL LAND DEVELOPMENTS GRAWFORTD IN BECAUSE OF IT. I'M NOT -- GARRARDED IN. I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE SET.
THERE'S NO REAL OPPOSITION TO TD IF IT'S EXPANDING AND THEY WANTT IN A PARKING LOT I WOULD NOT SEA PROBLEM WITH THAT. WITH THANK SAID, CONTINUING DOWE LIST, MS. PERKINS.
>> NO QUESTIONS. >> MR. ALAIMO. >> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS OR COMME.
>> ALL RIGHT. MR. MATOVINA. >> NONE HERE.
>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. >> MR. CHAIR.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> JUST AS YOU MENTIONED, WE WET QUITE READY FOR A MOTION YET, BE BE AWARE THAT AS THE AGENDA SHOU WILL BE VOTING ON THE ZONING VAE FIRST.
THEY HAVE TO GET PAST THAT, ANDN YOU'LL BE VOTING SPECIAL USE PE. SO YOU WILL BE HEARING BOTH, BUO
NEED TO VOTE ON THEM IN THAT PAR ORDER. >> THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. YOU GUYS CAN STAY PUT OR YOU CAT DOWN.
I'M GOING TO CALL FOR PUBLIC COT HERE. AND WE'LL SEE WHAT WE HAVE.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS? WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENT?& >> YES.
SHALL I READ IT? SURE. >> "IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR HEAG COVERING THE PROPOSAL AT 950 PED 521 AND 541 BREVARD, I HAVE NO M WITH THE REQUEST FOR A CHANGE MY
ELIZABETH DUNCAN." >> THANK YOU. SO DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENE
IN THE BUILDING? YES OR NO, MR. WAINRIGHT? >> NO.
>> ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY ONLINE? >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. A LITTLE REVERB. YOU HAD A POIF PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOU DON'T WANT TO REFUTE THAT, ? ALL RIGHT. THEN WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY F,
THOUGHTS OR A MOTION. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST DID I -- >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
>> HANG ON HERE, BILL. >> OKAY. >> AS THE CHAIR INDICATED, WE ME GOING THROUGH SOME GROWING PAINE TRY THIS NEW PROCESS. THE APPLICANT PRESENTED THE SPEE PRESENTATION ALREADY. WE HAVEN'T HEARD ON THE ZONING E YET, AND IT'S MY CO-COUNSEL IND, THE ORDER OF MOTIONS WOULD BE ZG VARIANCE AND THEN SPECIAL USE, E COULD, BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION E SPECIAL USE PERMIT, IF WE COULDE ZONING APPLICATION AS WELL AND E A MOTION ON THAT BEFORE WE MOVE.
>> IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THATE WERE HAPPENING CONCURRENTLY WITT PRESENTATION.
>> I DON'T THINK WE'VE HEARD THG PART YET, THE ZONING VARIANCE. >> LET'S GET THE APPLICANTS UP D
WE'LL DO THIS AGAIN. >> OKAY. >> IT'S A NEW AGENDA.
DO YOU MIND STATING YOUR NAME AD ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> ZEBULUN DUNCAN, 9153 PROSPERE
DRIVE, JACKSONVILLE, FLOO. >> AND ELIZABETH DONE BEGAN 57 N BERRY PLANE, FLORIDA AND WE'RE REPRESENTING DUNCAN & DUNCAN CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT ON BEHAE GRACE AND TRUTH PRAYER CENTER.
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SO FOR ZONING REQUEST, REQUEST A ZONING VARIANCE TO LAND DEVELOPE TABLE 6.01 TO ALLOW A SECOND FRD SETBACK OF 11.8 FEET IN LIEU OFE 25-FOOT REQUIREMENT AND A SIDE D SETBACK OF 7.5 FEET IN LIEU OF E 8-FOOT REQUIREMENT IN A RESIDENL SINGLE FAMILY ZONING. IN ADDITION, THE RELIEF FROM BUG AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS PRESN SECTION 6.06.04 BOTANICAB BUFFEG REQUIREMENTS OF THE LDC TO ALLOE CONTINUE AUGS OF AN EXISTING NOM CHURCH SPECIFICALLY LOCATE AT 9L STREET AND THE THE PARKING LOT D AT 521 AND 541 NORTH BREVARD ST. AGAIN, THE LOCATION OF THE CHURD PROPOSED PARKING IS RESIDENTIALR FUTURE LAND USE, ZONING IS RS-3. IT'S LOCATED AT 950 PEARL STREE1 AND 441 NORTH BREVARD STREET ACM PEARL STREET. AND KIND OF THE SAME THING FOR E ZONING IN SUMMARY, THAT WE'RE RG THE 6.0 TO ALLOW FOR THE SECONDT YARD SETBACK AND THE SIDE YARD K AND THE BUFFERING.THE SITE PLAN AGAIN. ANY QUESTIONS? >> OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS NUMBER 1 OR ZONING VAR. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE AGENCY MS FOR THIS FIRST AGENDA ITEM? HEARING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS ?
>> NO. >> DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKEE INTERNET?
>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY, THEN.
WE'VE HEARD THEM BOTH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING PT WITH US.
>> AND, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST FOR E RECORD, THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT MR. WAINRIGHT READ BEFORE WAS FM 1, BUT I THINK THEY'RE RELATED,E RECORD, THEY'LL BE CONSIDERED AC COMMENT FOR BOTH ITEMS.
I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. >> GREAT. YOU GUYS CAN TAKE A SEAT IF YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ALL RIGHT. WE'VE HEARD BOTH ITEMS.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON ID THEN ON ITEM 2. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM 1.
>> PLEASE DO. >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE ZONINGE 2019-31, GRACE AND TRUTH PRAYERR SUBJECT TO THE SEVEN CONDITIONSD BASED ON FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT S PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVED FROM MR. WAINRIGHT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. WE'LL DO IT VIA ROLL CALL.
THIS IS FOR ITEM NUMBER 1, THE G VARIANCE. DR. MCCORMICK.
>> YES. >> DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES.
>> MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES.
MS. PERKINS. >> YES. >> MR. ALAIMO.
>> YES. >> AND MR. MATOVINA. >> YES, SIR.
>> ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7-0. ITEM NUMBER 2, BILL, WOULD YOU O
MAKE THE SAME MOTION? >> YEAH, I WILL. MOTION TO APPROVE SPECIAL USE PJ 2019-19 SUBJECT TO NINE CONDITID EIGHT FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIN THE STAFF REPORT.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECONM MR. WAINRIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE'LL DO THE ROLL L VOTE. DR. MCCORMICK.
>> APPROVE. >> DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES.
>> MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES.
MS. PERKINS. >> YES. >> MR. ALAIMO.
>> YES. >> AND MR. MATOVINA. >> YES.
>> THAT MOTION CARRIES 7-0 UNAN. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 3.
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BEAR WITH ME HERE. CYCLE HUFF FOX AND POLLY K. FOX. -- MICHAEL.[00:25:16]
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS TRAVIS MENCH I LEAVE0 NECK ROAD.
I'M ACTUALLY ADJACENT TO THIS PY THAT IS BEFORE YOU FOR THE ZONIG VARIANCE REQUEST.
I'M THE NORTH NEIGHBOR TO THE S. SO THAT'S ALSO THE DIRECTION THS VARIANCE PERTAINS TO ON .
I'M NOT NORTH NEIGHBOR THAT THIS VARIANCE IMPACTS. IF YOU COULD GET TO THE NEXT SL.
OKAY. SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN E VEDRA BEACH.
IT'S OFF OF NECK ROAD, AND IT'SY SITUATED AT THE -- THANK YOU --S SITUATED AT THE CORNER OF NECK D GHANA DRIVE. GHANA DRIVE IS A PRIVATE ROAD. NECK ROAD IS A COUNTY-MAINTAINE.
AND THIS PROPERTY LIES IN THE RESIDENTIAL C LAND USE DISTRICT. WHAT IS PROPOSED IS A SINGLE FAY HOME, SO IT MEETS THAT RESIDENTC CATEGORY. IT'S ALSO IN THE RS-3 ZONING DI.
IT DOES MEET THAT ZONING DISTRI. AND THE SETBACKS FOR THAT DISTRE ON THIS NEXT SLIDE HERE.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE BOTTOM LEFT , THE SETBACKS FOR THIS PROPERTY E 25-FOOT FRONT AND 8-FOOT SIDE, A 10-FOOT REAR. THIS PROPERTY IS UNIQUE, HOWEVE, BECAUSE LIGHTS AT THE CORNER OFK ROAD AND GUANA DRIVE, TWO ROADSS NORTHEAST INTERSECTION, IT'S ALO CONSIDERED A CORNER LOT WHICH NECESSITATES WHAT THE COUNTY COS A SECOND FRONT, AND ON THAT SECT YOU DO NOT NEED TO MEET THE 25-T REQUIREMENT. THEY DO ALLOW YOU TO MEET A LESR STANDARD, WHICH IS 20 FEET, BUT NONETHELESS THIS PROPERTY IS UNE BECAUSE IT NOT ONLY HAS THE 25-T FRONT BUT A SEC FRONT OF 20 FEE.
-- A SECOND FRONT OF 20 FEET. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARCEL HERE , AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS TD LINES ARE THE PROPERTY BOUNDARI. THOSE ARE THE PROPERTY LINES. THE GREEN LINES ARE THE SETBACKR THE BUILDING SOMETIMES CALLED TE BUILDING RESERVATION LINE. AND THEN THE BLUE LINES, WHAT ID THERE WAS I OUTLINED THE FOOTPRF THE HOUSE. SO YOU CAN SEE THE LOT SHAPE ITS QUITE UNIQUE IN THAT IT KIND OFS AN HOURGLASS SHAPE TO IT. IT HAS A PILL PINCH POINT THERET NORTH PROPERTY LINE AS IT CHANGS DIRECTION, AND YOU'LL ALSO NOTIS EXACTLY WHERE THE HOME AS PROPOS THE SETBACK LINE. SO THE REQUEST IS A REDUCTION IT NORTH PROPERTY BOUNDARY, AGAIN,E IS NEALD ADJACENT TO THIS SITE - IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS SID IT CLIPS IT THERE BECAUSE THE PY LINE CHANGES DIRECTION. AND YOU CAN SEE AS SOON , TOT THE BLUE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE INTERSECTS THE GREEN SIDE YARD. IT'S A VERY, VERY SMALL AREA, AA 2-FOOT BY 3-FOOT AREA.
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NOT AN ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE PROCEDUY COUNTY, SO WE'RE COMING BEFORE O ESSENTIALLY GET RELIEF FOR A 2 T AREA. SO WHAT I HAVE PUT ON THIS SLIDI JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU THAT THE E ITSELF RIGHT NOW IS VACANT. THERE'S NO HOME ON IT.
THERE WAS A RESIDENCE ON THIS H- I'M SORRY. THERE WAS A RESIDENCE ON THIS PY AT ONE TIME. THAT STRUCTURE HAS BEEN CLEARED. THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE IS GOINGE LOCATED OF A SIMILAR SCALE AND O HOMES IN THAT COMMUNITY. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LET CORNER, YOU'LL SEE A HOUSE THER. THE PROPOSED HOUSE IS SIMILAR IE AND CHARACTER.
AND WHAT THE APPLICANT, WHAT THE HOMEOWNER IS TRYING TO DO IS LIT HOUSE UP WITH THE NEIGHBORING HO THAT IT HAS A NICE ATTRACTIVE LM THE STREET, YOU KNOW, TRYING TOE SURE THAT THE CHARACTER OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS MET, AND SETTINE HOUSE BACK A LITTLE BIT FURTHERE STREET WILL ACTUALLY ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ENHANCE THE PR. WITH THAT SAID, THAT DOES NECESE CLIPPING THAT SLIDELL YARD THERA
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COUPLE FEET. IF YOU ALSO LOOK AT THE PICTUREE AT THE BOTTOM MIDDLE, YOU'LL SET THE HOUSE THAT'S TO THE LEFT, A, THIS IS THE NORTH PROPERTY LINES SET BACK MORE THAN THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, SO EVEN THOUGH WE Y IMPACT THAT SIDE YARD THERE, THE THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT HAST BACK AT LEAST 10 FEET MORE THANE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT SO THAT STIL MAINTAINS I THINK THE INTENT OFE THAT THERE BE ADEQUATE DISTANCED LIGHT AND VENTILATION BETWEEN H. AND THEN FINALLY, THE BOTTOM RIT CORNER, THAT SHOWS ALL THE TREET ARE NEXT TO GUANA DRIVE. AGAIN, THE GOAL WAS TO NOT IMPAE TREES, PRESERVE THOSE TREES. THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL OAKS, AND SO D TO PROVIDE RELIEF OR GET RELIEFI SHOULD SAY, ON THE NORTH PROPERE RATHER THAN THE SOUTH PROPERTY E BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO IMPACTE LARGE OAKS. THIS PICTURE JUST SHOWS THE SLIT MOVEMENT OF THE HOUSE.WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE FEET . ESSENTIALLY IT WILL MOVE THE HOM THE GREEN LINE TO THE BLUE LINE.
STILL FITS THE CHARACTER OF THE, NOT A LARGE IMPACT AT ALL.
AND FINALLY, THIS IS PULLED FROE STAFF REPORT.
THIS WAS INFORMATION I ORIGINALY SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION.
I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT GS WELL AS ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS PR.
WHAT YOU CAN SEE THERE IS THAT N LINE POINTING TO THE BACK RIGHTR OF THE HOUSE, THE PROPOSED HOUSD THAT'S -- THAT CAUSES THE APPLIO ASK FOR THIS TYPE OF RELIEF.
>> THANK YOU. LET'S START WITH QUESTIONS FOR E APPLICANT. GO DOWN THE LIST.
>> NONE. >> MR. CHAIR, WHILE YOU'RE ASKIR QUESTIONS, COULD YOU ALSO ASK FR
EX PARTE, PLEASE. >> EXCELLENT IDEA. AND CAN YOU CHIME IN WITH ANY E.
>> NO EX PARTE. >> THANK YOU. DR. HILSENBECK.
>> NO EX PARTE. NO QUESTIONS. >> MR. WAINRIGHT.
>> NO EX PARTE. >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> YES.
YOU LIVE TO THE NORTH OF THIS P? >> I DO. >> THANK YOU.
>> MR. KOPPENHAFER. THAT'S ME. SO I LIVE ON NECK ROAD, BEEN THE '94. I OANSLY DON'T KNOW YOU. I THINK WE MET WHEN YOU REZONEDS
THING OUT IN THE PARKING LOT TWS AGO, PERHAPS. >> YES.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY CONFLICT BEI HONESTLY REALLY DON'T KNOW YOU. WELCOME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS. ONE IS THIS RESIDENCE IS MORE FD THAN YOUR RESIDENCE WHICH IS NOH THERE FROM THE ROADSIDE. THIS RESIDENCE IS CLOSER TO THED THAN YOURS IS, I BELIEVE.
>> I'M SORRY. ACTUALLY, WE'RE TRYING TO MIRROE HOUSE TO THE NORTH.
SO WHERE THE HOUSE IS PROPOSED D ESSENTIALLY LINE UP WITH WHERE E EXISTS.
SO WE HAVE A SIMILAR FRONT SETB. >> IT DOESN'T HAVE THIS ON THE Y HERE BUT IT SHOWS YOUR GARAGE, S
CERTAINLY WELL BEHIND YOUR HOUS, THAT LITTLE ONE-CAR GARAGE. >> YEAH, MY GARAGE IS SET BACK Y
HOUSE. >> WHERE IS THE DRIVEWAY AND/ORE IN THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE?
>> IT WOULD BE COMING OFF OF GUA DRIVE. >> SO WHERE THAT OLD ROADWAY WAS
THAT GENERALLY -- IS THAT A GARE THERE, A SIDE WAY ENTRANCE THER? >> THE GARAGE IS NOT SHOWN ON TE PLAN. IT WOULD MEET THE SETBACK REQUIS ONCE THAT IS DESIGNED, BUT, YESE
DRIVE WOULD COME OFF OF GUANA DE WHICH IS THE PRIVATE ROAD. >> SO IS IT -- OBVIOUSLY ON THEN SIDE OF THE HOUSE, THEN. IS IT GENERALLY WHERE THIS ROADS OLD EASEMENT IS SHOWN? RIGHT THERE? 20-FOOT AND SECOND FRONT? IF YOU LOOK AT THE -- IS IT ON E
OR IS IT ON THE FRONT SIDE? HERE OR HERE, THE GARAGE? >> ACTUALLY, THE GARAGE IS NOT N THE SITE PLAN AT ALL. THE GARAGE WOULD BE DETACHED. IF YOU MOVE -- YEAH, IF YOU MOVR CURSOR TO THE BACK RIGHT CORNERE BUILDING RESERVATION AREA -- YET IN THAT -- IT WOULD BE WITHIN TE
>> SO THE GARAGE IS UP HERE. >> YEAH, I MEAN, THEY ARE STILLN DEVELOPMENT BUT, YES, THAT WOULE
GOAL, I BELIEVE. >> FINALLY, THERE'S A PRETTY SUL OAK HERE, 48 INCHES.
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I GUESS THAT'S GOING AWAY? >> UNFORTUNATELY, YES. THERE ARE SO MANY NICE OAKS ON T PROPERTY. THE 27-INCH OAK IS A BEAUTIFUL . THAT WILL BE RETAINED.
A LOT OF THE HOUSE DESIGN WAS OD TO ACCENTUATE THAT OAK AND APPRE IT.
IT'S GOT A VERY BEAUTIFUL LARGE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO T SOME TREES ON THIS PROPERTY, GIE
ARE SO MANY, BUT, YEAH, THE GOAO PRESERVE THE 27-INCH. >> ALL RIGHT.
SO WITH THE NEW -- IF THE GARAGS HERE, THE NEW DRIVEWAY COMING DL NOT TAKE AWAY ANY OF THESE OTHES
ON EITHER SIDE, 30-INCH, 24-INC? >> I THINK THAT'S THE GOAL, YEAO SNAKE THE DRIVEWAY THROUGH THISO
IMPACT THE TREES AS MINIMALLY AS POSSIBLE. >> OKAY.
THANK YOU. QUESTIONS AGAIN. MS. PERKINS.
>> NO QUESTIONS. NO EX PARTE. >> THANK YOU.
>> MR. ALAIMO. >> I HAVE NO EX PARTE AND NO QU. >> AND MR. MATOVINA.
>> NO EX PARTE AND PERHAPS A QUR TWO. ARE THERE GOING TO BE EVES ON TH SIDE OF THIS HOUSE.
ANY WHATSOME. >> EAVES. OVERHANGS.
>> EAVES. >> LIKE HOUSE EAVES HANGING OVE- >> IN ADDITION TO THE BUILDING .
>> I'M NOT -- I'M NOT SURE. >> I GUESS THE REASON WHY I ASKE QUESTION IS BECAUSE I KNOW IN SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS WE D THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR STAFE HAVE AN ISSUE IN ST. JOHNS COUNY BECAUSE THEY'VE ACTUALLY WRITTEO THE CODE THAT THE EAVES ACTUALLT THE SETBACK, ALSO, SO I'M WONDEG
WHETHER WE'RE ASKING FOR A BIG H VARIANCE HERE. >> JACOB OR .
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. JACOB SMITH WITH GROWTH MANAGEM. I THINK TO ANSWER THAT QUESTIONY ENOUGH, THAT THE EXISTING HOME E NORTH, THE SEPARATION BETWEEN TO HOMES FROM STAFF REVIEW IS THATS ADEQUATE SPACING BETWEEN THEM FE INTENT OF THAT SEPARATION. I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER OFFHANT
WAS DEFINITELY ANALYZED. >> CAN YOU ANSWER? IT'S A VALID QUESTION.
WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH SELL BAA VARIESIANS ON ASET-BACK, IS THAE BUILDING LINE OR IS THAT TO THEF
ROOF EAVE? >> IT'S TYPICALLY GOING TO BE TE ROOF EAVE IN THIS DISTRICT.
>> OKAY. SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THIS IS A FOOTPRINT THAT YOU'RE SHOWING IN
MR. HUGO OR WHATEVER THAT COLOR? >> I BELIEVE THAT'S A FOOTPRINT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> YES, SIR. >> MIKE ROBERTSON, GROWTH MANAG. JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS VARIANCE, WHATEVER YOU COME IN WITH, THISO INCLUDE YOUR EAVES BECAUSE YOU D HAVE A PROBLEM.
WHAT HE'S GETTING AT IS IF THEYE THIS VARIANCE, WHEN YOU COME INU MIGHT BE 14 INCHES SHORT.
I THINK YOU GET THE PICTURE. SO WE JUST NEED TO BE CLEAR THAS WHAT YOUR REQUEST INCLUDES.
IF IT DOESN'T, THE REQUEST NEEDO CHANGE, AND YOU MIGHT HAVE TO HE DISCUSSION.
>> YES, BECAUSE THE AMOUNT IS TE DISTANCE IS LISTED IN THE MOTIOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THE MOTION RES
WHAT YOU ARE REQUESTING. >> SO, YEAH, IN THAT CASE, THENI BELIEVE WE WOULD NEED 14 MORE IS
THAN REQUESTED. >> ANY OBJECTION FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE?
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD JUMD STAFF, PLEASE HELP ME. I'M REVIEWING THE LAND DEVELOPM, AND I DO SEE A PROVISION IN SUBF THIS SECTION THAT CERTAIN ARCHIL FEATURES SUCH AS EAVES WHICH MAY A PORTION OF THE BUILDING FOOTPY PROJECT NO MORE THAN 3 NEAT INTO REQUIRED FRONT AND REAR YARDS 3T INTO SIDE YARDS WHICH MEASURES M OF 8 FEET IN WIDTH AND 2-1/2 FOO SIDE NARD MEASURING 7-1/2 FEET .
NO INTRUSIONS IS PER MI IN THE E YARDS LESS THAN 7-1/2 FEET IN W. SO IF I'M READING THAT CORRECTLE EAVE COULD PROJECT, IF THIS IS E YARD, 3 FEET. IF THE MINIMUM OF 8 FEET.
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SO I THINK THE EAVE, DEPENDING W MUCH IT PROCEED USED THE TRUTH,E ALLOWED TO DO THAT UP TO 3 FEETI BELIEVE, AND IF STAFF WOULD TAKK AT, TOO, AND FELL TELL ME IF I'M MISUNDERSTANDING.>> YOU'RE THE ATTORNEY BUT IF IA 8-FOOT SETBACK GOING DOWN TO 5 , IT'S NOT AN 8-FOOT SETBACK.
IS THAT HOW YOU WOULD INTERPRET? >> I THINK YOU COULD BE ABLE TO- PARDON ME -- WOULD BE ABLE TO PT ORDINARILY AN ADDITIONAL 3 FEET. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, NO INTRUSION E PERMITTED IF THE SIDE YARD IS LN 7-1/2 FEET. SO AS YOU SAY, IF WE'RE REDUCINN THE 5, THAT WOULD SEEM TO INDICO
INTRUSION WOULD BE ALLOWED. DOES ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH ME O? >> STAFF AGREES WITH THAT ASSES.
>> ANYWAY, WE WENT INTO BAIT OFE THERE BY ME BRINGING IT UP BUT O MAKE SURE I AT LEAST POINTED OUT ORDINARILY EAVES WOULD BE ALLOWO INTRUDE INTO THE SETBACK A CERTN AMOUNT.
HERE, SINCE WE'RE REDUCE 10 SIDO LESS THAN 7-1/2 FEET, NO INTRUSD BE ALLOWED.
>> OKAY. SO NOW THE APPLICANT IS INTERESN EXPANDING THAT AREA OR DIMENSIOO THE SETBACK ANOTHER 14 INCHES, T 2 INCHES, IN LIEU OF THE 36 OR T DIMENSION.
IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YO. >> YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.
>> SO GOOD CATCH, GREG. >> I WOULD HAVE HAVE DO HAVE ANR QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> WHILE WE'RE PINING OVER THAT, PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> MY OTHER QUESTION IS I'M STRG WITH THE HARDSHIP QUESTION ON TA LITTLE BIT. I SEE REASONS WHY THERE ARE A H.
BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE AT AS TO WHAT ARCHITECTURAL OR -- T ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, BUT INF LAYING OUT THE HOUSE AND THE WIF THE ROOMS AND THAT SORT OF THINT PAINSTAKING EFFORTS THEY WENT TO
REDUCE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUO MAKE IT FIT. >> YES.
SO AS YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLANN SEE THAT IN RESPECT TO THE SIZEE LOT, HOW EXACT THE FOOTPRINT IS.
I MEAN -- HOW COMPACT THE FOOTP. OBVIOUSLY THE GREEN AREA SHOWS H YOU COULD BUILD, ESSENTIALLY SPT A HOUSE ACROSS THAT ENTIRE SITE, IMPACTING AND ELIMINATING ESSENY ALL OF THE TREES ON THE PROPERT.
THEY'VE TAKEN THAT FOOTPRINT ANU KNOW, I'M ALL BALLPARKING HERE T PROBABLY SHRUNK THAT DOWN BY 50T ESSENTIALLY COULD BE BUILT OUT G A TWO-STORY HOME VERSUS A SINGLL WITH A LARGER FRIGHTEN THAT WOUT MORE OF THE TREES. AGAIN, THE GOAL OF THE PROPERTYR WAS TO CREATE A HOUSE THAT FIT E STYLE, THE CHARACTER, WAS AESTHY PLEASING FROM THE STREET, SO THS THE REQUEST, IS TO KIND OF SET S HOUSE BACK TO LINE UP WITH THE O THE NORTH, KEEP IT OFF OF THAT T SETBACK WHERE A LOT OF THE TREE, SET IT BACK FURTHER FROM NECK R, WHICH IS THE WEST PROPERTY LINEU SEE, TOO, THERE'S A LOT OF -- TS THREE, FOUR NICE LARGE OAKS THEO PUSHING THE HOUSE BACK A LITTLET FURTHER ALSO HELPED PROVIDE RELO THOSE TREES BECAUSE ONCE YOU GEU KNOW, A CERTAIN DISTANCE TO THEE OAKS, YOU START TO CUT INTO THET
SYSTEMS, AND WE'RE TRYING TO MIE THAT IMPACT. >> OKAY.
THAT DIDN'T REALLY ANSWER MY QU. BUT I MEAN YOU'RE BUILDING A HOE THAT'S ABOUT 60 FEET WIDE.
MY QUESTION IS WHY COULDN'T YOUE OUT A HOUSE THAT'S 57 FEET WIDE. >> WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS PROFESSIONALLY DESIGNED BY AN AT WHO DID A SITE VISIT TO THE HOU, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE PY OWNER'S SPACE NEEDS, AND THIS IT THEY CAME UP WITH. ONCE THAT DESIGN WAS DRAWN, WE T THE PLACEMENT OF THAT AND SAID,U KNOW, IF WE TWIST IT HERE OR TUT THERE, WE COULD ACTUALLY MACK AR PROJECT THAN IF WE JUST PUSHED T HOUSE RIGHT UP TO THE FRONT, WHO THINK ESSENTIALLY COULD FIT IF T MOVE THAT HOUSE TO THE WEST PROY LINE AND TWIST A LITTLE BIT, WED PROBABLY FIT IT IN WITHOUT PAY T OR -- YEAH, WITHOUT A VARIANCE. AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WT MAKE A BETTER PROJECT.
I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE THE PROT WORSE. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIR.
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THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WHAT IS THE WIDTH OF THIS HOUSEE
THERE? >> WELL, SO LET'S SEE. IF I WAS TO GUESS, SO WE'VE GOT- I THINK THE PROPERTY IS ABOUT 9T WIDE GOING TO THE NORTH TO THE O WE MINUS 20, MINUS 8 AROUND 60,E
60 RANGE. >> 62 FEET. THAT'S A VALID POINT.
LET'S GET BACK TO THE OVERHANG. >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY CONFIRM E APPLICANT, DID THE PROFESSIONALS
DRAWING? THE ARCHITECT OR THEIR ACTOR? >> YEAH, THE PLAN WAS DRAWN BY N
ARCHITECT. >> BECAUSE TYPICALLY WHEN THEY T THESE PLANS, THEY ACCOUNT FOR T, AND IT WAS A GREAT POINT BY MR. MATOVINA, BUT ARE YOU MOTIVT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE EAVE? BECAUSE WHEN THEY SUBMIT THESE T LEAST FOR A CLEARANCE SHEET FORW HOME, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO INCLU.
>> SO WHAT IS SHOWN IN THE BLUEE FOUNDATION ITSELF, SO THOSE AREE WALLS, NOT INCLUDING THE EAVES.
>> COPY THAT. THANK YOU. >> LET ME PEEL THAT BACK A LITT.
THE THICK BLUE LINE COULD BE AN- IT'S A GUESS, BUT THE THINNER BS ARE PORCHES OR LANAIS OR SOMETHN THE FRONT, AND ON THE BACK. WHAT IS THE INDENT HERE FOR OF S EXTRA LINE FROM HERE TO HERE?
THE BLUE ONE. WHAT WHAT IS THAT DEPICTING? >> NOTHING, ACTUALLY.
I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT LINE IS SN THERE. ON THE SCREEN THE LOOKS ALMOST S
BLUISH, BUT THAT SHOULD JUST BED LINE SHOWING THE OUTSIDE OF THE. >> I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE A LINEE
THIS LINE AND THIS ONE. >> YEAH, I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT E ACROSS, IF THAT'S SOMETHING ON E
GRAPHIC I PROVIDE OR WHAT. >> FOR EXAMPLE 1 IF YOU'VE GOT F THE HOUSE AND IT SHOWS -- I DONT KNOW -- TRASH CANS, CON DERNS PN IT'S NOT PART OF THE HABITUAL SF THE HOUSE AND YOU DON'T NEED THE
VARIANCE. >> YEA, AND TO VERIFY, THAT IS F THE HOUSE, THAT'S PART OF LIVIN,
THAT CORNER. >> MR. CHAIR, I BELIEVE FROM LOT IT, IT'S ACTUALLY ON WHAT WE RE, IT'S CLOSED IN. I THINK YOU'RE ACTUALLY INDICATE AREA THAT IS IMPACTED THAT YOU'G THE VARIANCE FOR. IT'S JUST THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK S SHOW CLOSED.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS IS TRYO INDICATE, IS THAT'S THEELL ACTUA THAT'S IN QUESTION.
>> I KNOW IT'S LIKES 6 SCWAWR FT WEBSITES A TINY WEDGE THAT GETS. >> WELL, IT'S 3 FEET WIDE PLUS R
12 FEET OF THE LENGTH. SO I'M GUESSING MORE THAN 6. >> YEAH, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY AE
DIMENSIONS. >> IF MY MATH IS CORRECT. ALL RIGHT.
SO WITH THAT SAID, WHAT DO YOU O DO WITH THIS OVERHANG? THE.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD JUMD I'M ENJOYING PING-PONGING YOU GK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE THREE OF .
YOU HAVE A REQUEST FOR YOU RIGHW THAT IS TO REDUCE THE SIDE SETBO 5 FEET.
AND ON THE FLOOR WE HAVE A REQUO ACTUALLY REDUCE IT POTENTIALLY R 14 INCHES.
THAT WASN'T WHAT WAS NOTICED HE. THAT'S NOT WHAT ANYBODY WHO MIGE WANTED TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT BT DECIDED NOT TO BECAUSE THEY WERY WITH 5 BUT THEY AREN'T OKAY WITT 8 INCHES, SO I AM CONCERNED ABOG FORWARD WITH AN AMENDED REQUESTT WOULD INCREASE THE NONCOMPLIANCR THAN REDUCE IT.
IF IT WAS ACTUALLY I DON'T NEED3 ADDITIONAL FEET, I ONLY NEED 2,K THE BOARD COULD ACT BECAUSE WE'E REDUCING THE NEGATIVE IMPACT, BM CONCERNED ABOUT IF WE'RE GOING O FORWARD WITH AN INCREASE IMPACTT HASN'T BEEN NOTICED UNDER THIS R THIS HEARING. BUT, OF COURSE, WE DON'T KNOW YW THE BOARD'S GOING TO GO ON THE T AS IT STAND RIGHT NOW. SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF THE BOARD IS GOING TO ACT, IT NO ACT ON THE APPLICATION THAT WE E TODAY.
IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO REVISI SUGGEST THAT THEY REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE TO A FUTURE HEARING.
IF THEY WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >> THANK YOU.
WE'LL LET THE APPLICANT RESPOND. >> BEAR WITH ME ONE MINUTE. >> SURE.
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I KNOW A GOOD ARCHITECT ON THATT WHO KNOWS WHAT THE SETBACKS ARE. I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME, THOU.>> "GOOD" IS A RELATIVE TERM. >> THAT'S RIGHT. JUST AN ARCHITECT.
IT'S LIKE WHAT DO THEY CALL IT T GUY TO GRADUATES IN MEDICAL SCHL CLASS?
>> ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF. IF WE MODIFY THIS REQUEST, WHATS THAT REQUIRE IN TERMS OF TIMINGD
NOTICE? >> I THINK IT COULD BE CONTINUEA FUTURE HEARING DATE, BUT WHAT HN NOTICED TODAY HAS NOT INCLUDED T AMENDMENT, SO I DO THINK IT WOUD TO BE RENOTICED FOR THE PUBLIC.
>> IF THEY DID CONTINUE, SO TO , THOUGH, AS THAT CAN HAPPEN, GIVE INCREASE, WILL THAT BE --
>> I DON'T THINK WE COULD JUST E IT BY THE BOARD HERE TO A DATE N WITHOUT NOTICING IT AGAIN.
SO I THINK IT COULD BE MAYBE RED TO CONTINUE TO A DATE UNCERTAIND WE'LL RENOTICE IT AS WE WOULD DA
BRAND NEW HEARING. >> BEFORE YOU MAKE THAT COMMITMT THERE, JUST I'M NOT TRYING TO BD NEIGHBOR HERE, BUT THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 8 FEET AND 3, AND SO 8 FEET AND 5 FEET SEEMS N MY OPINION, SOMETHING THAT I COD SWALLOW. FURTHER, IT SEEMS LIKE TO GREG'T HERE, YOU'VE GOT 62 FEET OR WHAR THAT DIMNSION IS TO MAKE WORK. I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE MORE WORR OTHER PEOPLE 1 BUT THAT'S THE RS ESSENTIALLY, AND THERE MAY BE ME PUSHBACK IF YOU GET A LITTLE BIS
THAT PROPERTY LINE. >> MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD ANSWERS QUESTION ON WHEN I COULD COME B.
MAYBE JULY 16TH PLANNING AND ZOG AGENCY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE ADVEG DATELINES OR AUGUST 6TH, ONE OFE
TWO DATES WE'D HAVE TO -- AFTERE CAN CONFIRM. >> OKAY.
I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE OPTIOL HAVE TO TAKE. AGAIN, I DO LIVE NORTH OF -- I T PROBABLY DOESN'T MATTER, BUT I O THE NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY, ANDE PROPERTY OWNER WHO IT MOST IMPAT
I THINK WITH ALL THIS SAID, I GE HAVE TO RENOTICE. >> ALL RIGHT.
DO WE NEED TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMEO WE JUST -- >> YES.
AND THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A MOM THE BOARD. >> RIGHT, RIGHT.
BUT BEFORE THAT PUBLIC COMMENTS? >> YES, PLEASE. >> ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS, MR. WAINRIGHT? >> NO.
>> ONLINE DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS? >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> OKAY. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO COO A DATE UNCERTAIN BUT STAFF WILLK
WITH THE APPLICANT ON FIGURING L THAT. >> MR. CHAIR, I'D OFFER MOTION.
>> TO CONTINUE THIS TO DATE UNC, CAPTURED BY THE DATES WE WERE O. >> ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ANY AGENCY MEMBER -- >> SECOND.
>> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. WAINRIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO THROUGH THE ROLL CALL . CRACKER BARREL DR. MCCORMICK.
>> YES. >> BY THE WAY, THIS IS A MOTIONO CONTINUE.
DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES. >> MR. WAINRIGHT.
>> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MS. PERKINS.
>> YES. >> MR. ALAIMO. >> YES.
>> AND MR. MATOVINA. >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT.
MOTION TO CON IS APPROVED. -- MOTION TO CONTINUE IS PROVED. MOVING ALONG, ITEM NUMBER 4, IFD
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AND WE WILL GO THROUGH EX PARTE, IF YOU DON'T MIND. >> CHAIRMAN, THEY ARE ABLE TO SE THEIR NAME. WE DON'T NEED THEIR ADDRESS FORS OF PUBLIC RECORDS AND PRESUMSZ Y
CAN PROVIDE THEIR NAMES. >> OKAY? >> WAYNE COOLY.
>> KIMBERLY COOLLY. >> A HAPPY COUPLE. BEFORE WE DO THAT, THOUGH, IS TY EX PARTE TO DECLARE? I'M GOING THROUGH THE LIST HERE. DR. MCCORMICK.
>> NONE. >> DR. HILSENBECK. >> NO.
>> MR. WAINRIGHT. >> NO. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS NO.
MS. PERKINS. >> NONE. >> MR. ALAIMO.
>> NONE. >> AND MR. MATOVINA. >> NO, SIR.
>> THANK YOU. PLEASE CONTINUE WITH YOUR PRESE. >> YES.
WE ARE HERE FOR A ZONING VARIANV I DIDN'T HAVE A SURVEY BUT DID A SITE PLAN.
AND I HAVE NUMEROUS LETTERS OF T FROM NEIGHBORS AND I ALSO HAVE A NEIGHBOR HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TK
ON OUR BEHALF, ALSO. >> GO ANY MORE MEAT ON THE BONES THEY SAY?
>> THE ISSUE IS OUR LOT WEV A BD AND WE HAVE A SIDE FENCE WITH A0 FOOTGATE.
THE ISSUE IS FOR NOT ALLOWING TK IN THE BACKYARD IS THE RV IS 30T LONG AND THE GATE IS ONLY 10 FEE AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO R TO GET THAT LARGE A VEHICLE IN E BACKYARD BECAUSE, I MEAN, OTHERN THAT I MEAN, IT'S VERY TIGHT QUS BACK THERE TO TRY TO MANEUVER SG THAT LARGE THROUGH A 10 FOOTGAT.
>> SURE. THAT'S THE GATE THAT'S ON THE RD INSIDE.
>> . >> YES, SIR. >> WHERE THE BOAT IS I GUESS ONR
DRAWING? >> SIR? >> IS THERE A BOAT?
>> YES, SIR, THERE IS A 20-FOOTN THE BACKYARD, ALSO. >> SO THE HARDSHIP IS YOU CAN'TT
IN THE BACKYARD BECAUSE THE GATT WIDE ENOUGH. >> THAT'S PART OF IT, YES, SIR,F
IT. >> SIR, DO YOU HAVE YOUR SITE PH YOU? IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND PUTTING ITE OVERHEAD THERE, I THINK THAT MIE HELPFUL.
>> THE CENTER IENL HAS A CAMERAE IT. IF YOU CAN PLACE IT IN THE MIDDF THAT WHERE THE CIRCLE IS, THEN Y CAN SEE IT. SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
THIS IS YOUR RV HERE, RIGHT? >> YES, SIR. >> THERE'S YOUR DRIVEWAY, FRONT,
HOUSE. THERE'S YOUR BOAT. >> RIGHT.
>> AND YOUR FENCE. >> YES, SIR. >> THERE'S A WELL AND A PUMP ANR
CONDITIONING UNIT? >> YES, SIR. >> WHAT'S PREVENTING YOU TO HAVT TUCKED FURTHER BACK IN? INSTEAD OF BEING RIGHT ON THE EF THE PROPERTY LINE, PUTTING IT RT
HERE? >> BECAUSE THERE'S TREES ON THEE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CUT, WHICR NEIGHBR ON THAT SIDE SAID WE WOE WILLING TO TAKE THOSE TREES OUTE HAD TO PUT IT BACK THERE, BUT WE THE AIR CONDITIONER AND THE WEL. THE WELL IS RIGHT IN THE MIL OFD SO THAT WOULD PREVENT IT FROM GL
THE WAY BACK TO THE FENCE. >> NOT GOING ALL THE WAY BACK BI DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SCALE OF TH.
>> IT'S NOT VERY WIDE BETWEEN TE AND THE TREES ON THAT SIDE OF T. >> WE'RE HANDICAPPED BECAUSE ALE
IS YOUR DRAWING HERE. DO YOU HAVE ANY PHOTOGRAPHS WIT? >> I HAVE SUBMITTED SEVERAL PHOS
BUT I DON'T HAVE THEM WITH ME. >> IF YOU COULD PUT EACH THOSE UNDERNEATH THAT CAMERA AND DESCA
LITTLE BIT WHAT WE'RE SEEING. >> THIS HERE IS THE TREES BETWEY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE AND OUR HOUSE E RV SITS NEXT TO. AND THAT IS THE RV WHERE IT SITO THOSE TREES ON THE SIDE OF THE .
>> IS THE RV ON THE GRASS IN THT PICTURE IT LOOKS LIKE? >> IT'S RIGHT ON THE EDGE, RIGHE EDGE OF THE GRASS, AND THE TREES TALL ENOUGH WHERE THE NEIGHBOR T EVEN SEE IT FROM HIS HOUSE.
IS THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE OTHE OF THE HOUSE. WHERE THERE'S NO HOUSE THERE TOE TO SEE IT. AND THIS IS A PICTURE FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD RIGHT NEXT TO ME THE RV IS PARKED RIGHT ALONG THE LINE ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE. AND THIS PICTURE HERE IS THE FRW
OF OUR HOUSE AND THE NEIGHBOR'S. >> SO A QUESTION FOR YOU. BASED ON YOUR DRAWING, IS THE D.
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THAT'S THE EDGE OF THE HOUSE. >> YES, SIR. >> YOU HAVE INCREASED THE WIDTHF
THE DRIVEWAY? >> NO, IT'S RIGHT ON THE EDGE OE DRIVEWAY.
AND THEN THIS PICTURE RIGHT HERU CAN SEE THE WIDTH OF BETWEEN THE LINE AND THE RECEIVE, SO THAT WE PREVENTING ME FROM PUTTING IT BK FARTHER IN THE YARD AS IT SITS NOW.
>> WHAT'S THE WIDTH BETWEEN THIF THE HOUSE AND THE SIDE YARD? >> 10 TO 15 FEET.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER PICTUR& YOU'VE GOT A GREEN THUMB WITH AT TREE WORK THERE.
>> THE ONLY OTHER ONE IS THE THE HERE, SAME TREE LINE TO THE HOU. >> ALL RIGHT.
>> I HAVE SOME MORE. I'M MEGAN, KUEHNE, GROWTH MANAG. MOST OF THE PICTURES THAT WE'REG AT RIGHT HERE IS THE SCREENING E NEIGHBOR. AND THEN HERE'S THE OTHER FRONT, TWO FRONT YARDS. HERE'S THE SECOND FRONT YARD. THAT'S FENCED IN.
WHERE THEY'RE PULLING THE BOAT K THERE. >> WE ALSO HAVE A LETTER FROM TS NEIGHBOR OVER HERE SHOWING HIS T FOR LEAGUE OF IT WHERE IT IS. AND I ALSO HAVE A NEIGHBOR THATK HERE THAT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS THET FROM US. AND PLUS NUMEROUS LETTERS OF SUT FROM OTHER NEIGHBORS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TOO, SHOWING THEIT FOR LEAVING IT THERE.
>> I THINK WE'VE SEEN SEVERAL TN THE SHORES AREA WHERE THEY PARKR RVS AND BOATS AND THEY'RE ALL OE PLACE. SOME ARE TUCKED BACK IN, SOME AE EDGE OF THE DRIVEWAY, ET CETERA.
>> YES, SIR. YOU CAN DRIVE JUST ABOUT EVERY N THE SOUTH AND YOU'LL FIND THEM D
LIKE THAT TOO. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE TO ADD TO THE PRESENTA?
STAFF? >> I HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PICTUF THE FRONT YARD IF YOU'D LIKE TOE
SO HERE'S THE VIEW OF THE OTHERT SIDE YARD. THERE'S THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTS
BACK HERE, THEIR DRIVEWAY. >> SO THAT'S THE SWALE THAT WAS OBJECTIONABLE IN THE STAFF REPO?
>> YES. SO THEY'RE PULLING IT HERE TO GR BOAT INTO THEIR BACKYARD.
HERE'S THE FENCE FOR THE SECONDT YARD WHERE THEY'RE STORING THE . AGAIN HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW ON THR OF THE FROT. HERE'S THEIR FRONT YARD. AND HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE BAC.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?
>> NO, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S BRING IT INTO THE AGENCY,F THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMEN. GO DOWN THE ROLL CALL. DR. MCCORMICK.
AND IF YOU CAN ALSO DECLARE EX F THAT'S NECESSARY. >> NO QUESTIONS.
>> DR. HILSENBECK. >> NO EX PARTE, BUT I DO HAVE OE QUESTION.
IT LOOKS LIKE ON THAT COUPLE OFE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT YOU ALL FILLEDT OF THE SWALE SO YOU COULD BACK T
UP INTO THE YARD. IS THAT CORRECT OR NOT? >> OVER, THAT'S NOT CORRECT.
THAT'S JUST A SOFT SAND. WHEN I BACK THE BOAT IN AND OUT, AND I'VE TRIED TO KEEP THEM RAKK
INASMUCH AS I CAN. >> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.
MR. WAINRIGHT. >> NO. NO COMMENTS.
>> I'VE SAID MY COMMENTS MS. PE. >> NO EX PARTE. NO COMMENTS.
>> MR. ALAIMO. >> I HAVE NO COMMENT AND NO EX . >> MR. MATOVINA.
>> NO COMMENTS, NO EX PARTE. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS? >> YES, WE HAVE, OF COURSE, MANN ONES AND TWO SPEAKER CARDS HERE.
MR. WILLIAM HARRELL? IF YOU'D COME UP. >> THE APPLICANT WANTS TO SIT DS WILL BE THE PUBLIC SPEAKER SIDE. AND THEN WE'LL ASK YOU TO COME F THERE'S ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR .
>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> MR. HARRELL. >> YOU CAN APPROACH ONE OF THE MICROPHONES AND THEN PLEASE STAR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WE WILL GIU THREE MINUTES.
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>> >> MY NAME IS WILLIAM FAIRLY I T 1102 PRINCE ROAD WHICH IS ACTUAN THE CORNER OFFAL CONTE AND DIREY ACROSS THE STREET FROM WAYNE, AT CAME TO SUPPORT HIM AND STATE TS A VERY CONSCIENTIOUS PROPERTY OD A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND I DO WANT TP WITH THIS.
THAT'S ALL. >> THANK YOU. >> BETTY, MS. BELLE CHOLE.
CHOLEBETTIE CHOLE. IF YOU'LL GIVE US YOUR NAME AND? -NAME IS BETTIE KEEL.
I LIFT A 404 SAN JOSE ROAD IN SA SOUTH, ONE BLOCK FROM WHERE THIV IS STORED, AND I TRAVEL UP AND T ROAD QUITE OFTEN EVERY DAY, ANDV IS NOT A BLIND SIGHT AT ALL TO Y TRAFFIC MAY COME, NORTH, SOUTH,R WEST, AND IT'S VERY NEAT, IT ISE MEASURED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DT MEET THE REQUIREMENT TO BE OFF D BECAUSE IT LOOKS THAT FAR OFF TD FROM WHERE IT IS. SO I AM HERE VERY MUCH SO TO SU,
BEING WHERE IT IS, AND FOR IT T. AND I APPRECIATE YA'LL'S VOTE F. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE SPEAKER CARDS FOR HERE?
>> NO. >> DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKES ONLINE?
>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> ALL RIGHT. THEN WE ARE BACK IN THE AGENCY.
>> MR. CHAIR, I BELIEVE THERE I, ONE CORRESPONDENCE THAT NEEDS TE MENTIONED.
FOR THE RECORD THAT JUST CAME I.
>> I ADDED ONE TODAY. >> OKAY. DO I NEED TO READ THAT ONE?
>> SURE. MR. CHAIR, THERE'S A NOTE FROM S PERRY IT LOOKS LIKE AT 208 JASMD WHERE HE STATES "I DON'T AGREE E REZONING REQUEST. WHEN HOMES ARE PURCHASED IN A DD RESTRICTED COMMUNITY, YOU ARE AG TO FOLLOW THE DEED RESTRICTIONS. IT SHOULD NOT BE CHANGED FOR ON.
YOU ONLY INVITE ADDITIONAL REQUR MORE EXCEPTIONS AND PROBLEMS." THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. AND THE REST OF THE SUPPORT LETE INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT SOT
HAVE TO READ THOSE BECAUSE THEYE ONLINE, RIGHT? >> YEAH, I JUST HAVE THE 52 LETF SUPPORT, TWO OBJECTION LETTERS D THERE ARE A FEW INQUIRIES, CALLT WERE RECEIVED.
I LOOBLG TODAY BUT I DIDN'T SEED YOU JUST GET ONE? >> DID YOU HAVE THIS ONE?
>> EXCUSE ME. WOULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPD ADDRESS THE BOARD.
>> SURE. SO THE TWO OBJECTION LETTERS I , IT DOES THAT THE AFFECT US DIREY RIGHT NOW BUT COULD CHALLENGE OR COVENANTS EXPRE STRIKSZ. IF THEY CAN AFFORD TO PUT GAS IV AND TAKE A ACCELERATION, THEN TY SHOULD ABLE TO STORE IT PROPERL. THE FENCE WILL NOT BE HIGH ENOUO HIDE AN RV. I WORN IF THE NEIGHBORS LIKE THF THE BOAT IN THE BACKYARD.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WAS I BE THE ONE YOU JUST READ. I DON'T AGREE WITH THE REZONING.
WHEN HOMES ARE PURCHASED IN A DEED-RESTRICTED COMMUNITY YOU AE AGREEING TO FOLLOW THE DEED RESTRICTIONS. IT SHOULD NOT CHANGED FOR ONE P. YOU ONLY INVITE ADDITIONAL REQUR
MORE EXCEPTIONS AND PROBLEMS. THANK YOU. >> OKAY.
>> THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO HANDL, THOUGH, IF IT'S NOT IN THE STAFT AND WE GET AT THIS TIME DAY OF,E CAN READ IT, OTHERWISE WE'RE NOG TO REAFERRED SINGLE ONE OF THES, RIGHT?
>> UNLESS YOU WANT TO. >> AND THESE WERE INCLUDED IN TF REPORT.
>> RIGHT, EXCEPT FOR THE ONE THU FIRST READ. >> THOSE TWO WERE NOT PUT IN THF
REPORT. >> THEY WERE PROVIDED TODAY, SOE NOT IN THE STAFF REPORT.
>> GOT IT. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT.
THEN WE ARE BACK IN THE AGENCY. THOUGHTS, COMMENTS? AND THEN A MOTION.
ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A MOTION? BILL, YOU AWAKE? >> I AM.
>> ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A MOTIONR AGAINST? >> MR. WAINRIGHT?
DID YOU HIT THE SPEAKER BUTTON? PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> MR. CHAIR, MY SENSE OF IT ISS DOING FINE. IT BELONGS IN THE BACKYARD. PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MAY T
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IT, BUT THE GENERAL KIND OF THI, THERE'S ROOM IN THE BACKYARD FO. I DON'T WANT TO COMMENT IN ANY .I KNOW IT'S POPULAR IN THAT PORF OUR COUNTY TO PARK RVS IN THE FT YARD.
I THINK IT'S IF NOT UNSIGHTLY, T CERTAINLY DOESN'T OFFER ANYTHIN. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FOO
I HAVE NO DESIRE TO MOVE TO OPPR SUPPORT IT. >> THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE CARE TO MAKE A MOTI? >> YEAH, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> YES.
>> YES. I'VE BEEN KIND OF STRUGGLING WIS ONE HERE A LITTLE BIT.
I WORRY ABOUT SETTING A PRECEDE. LIKE ONE OF THE COMMENTS HAD ME, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE UNSIG.
IT SEEMS LIKE -- IT SEEMS LIKE E GOT A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE FN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I'M GOINGO
SUPPORT IT AND WOULD BE HAPPY TA MOTION. >> ALL RIGHT.
I HAVE'S MOTION TO APPROVE FROM MR. ALAIMO. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> I'LL SECOND IT. >> COULD YOU PLEASE READ THE MOR THE RECORD.
>> ROY, COULD YOU READ IT. >> YES. REQUEST FOR ZONING VARIANCE LANP CODE SECTION 60S .01 .03 TO ALLR A REC LAKESSAL VEHICLE TO BE LOD WITHIN THE REQUIRED FRONT YARD N RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY ZONINT TO SEVEN CONDITIONS AND BASED OR FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED INE
STAFF REPORT. >> ALL RIGHT. >> NOW, I'LL SECOND.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECON. THIS WILL NOT BE TRANSFERABLE AT RUN WITH THE PROPERTY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? HEARING NONE, WE WILL DO A VOTE. THROUGH THE ROLL CALL.
DR. MCCORMICK. >> APPROVE. >> DR. HILSENBECK.
>> YES. >> MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES.
>> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MS. PERKINS. >> NO.
>> MR. ALAIMO. >> YES. >> AND MR. MATOVINA.
>> NO. >> ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 5-2 FOR APPROVAL.
THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK.
LAST ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBD WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL HERE, SOO SIT BACK A LITTLE BIT.
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LET'S DO THE EX PARTE THING AHEF THIS. THROUGH THE ROLL CALL, DR. MCCO.>> I'M HERE. NO -- WE TRIED BUT WE NEVER DIDT TOGETHER TO DISCUSS THIS, SO NOE
FOR DR. MCCORMICK. >> DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES, I HAD A TELEPHONE CALL M
SMITH AND WE DISCUSSED THE ITEM. >> MR. WAINRIGHT. >> NO.
>> MR. KOPPENHAFER, YES, I HAD A TELEPHONE CALL WITH MS. ELEANORH YESTERDAY AND DISCUSSED THE REZG HERE. SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NUMBERS CAME UP FOR ME.
MS. PERNG. >> NO. >> MR. ALAIMO.
>> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH N AVERY SMITH TODAY REGARDING AGEM
NUMBER 5. >> MR. MATOVINA. >> I DID HAVE A TELEPHONE CONVEN
EARLIER THIS WEEK WITH ELLEN AVH CONCERNING THE DETAILS OF THE P. >> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
MS. ELLEN ARRIVE SMITH, TAKE IT. >> THANK YOU, MR. KOPPENHAFER, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS E SKY AND IN PERSON. IF YOU WANT, I'LL PUT UP OUR PO. HERE WE ARE.
SO WITH ME TODAY FROM WFC ASHFO, WHICH IS THE DEFERLT PROPERTY TS CALLED SHEAR WATER.
THAT'S THE MARKET LANE AND HOW E COMMUNITY IS LABELED OUT ON THE, BUT THE DRI IS CALLED ASHFORD MD MICK MCCORMICK COUPLE FROM THE DEVELOPER/OWNER IS HERE WITH ME. JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY A LITTLEN YENTATION, I'M GLAD I PUT THIS R BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WE GOING TO THIS FORMAT TODAY FOR A SO WE'RE ALL GOOD. YOU'LL SEE COUNTY ROAD 210 HEREY ROAD 16A, AND YOU SEE APPROXIMA.
THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED E 2006 AS ASHFORD MILLS. AND SO THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIN OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AGAIN ITS LITTLE PIECE THAT TOUCHES 210 AY DOWN HERE TO COUNTY ROAD 16A IS
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RESIDENTIAL C, AND AGAIN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION S CHANGED IN 2006.THE PUD ALSO HAS BEEN AROUND SI. AND THAT'S WHAT THE PROJECT IS D TODAY.
THE DRI AGAIN WAS ORIGINALLY APN 2006. IT INCLUDES 2703 RESIDENTIAL UN, INCLUDING 1918 SINGLE FAMILY UND 785 MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UN. THAT'S WHAT IT'S APPROVED FOR TY ALONG WITH 242,000 OR SO SQUAREF COMMERCIAL SPAS AND 30,000 SQUAT OF OFFICE SPACE.
THE DEVELOPER, IT WAS REQUIRED O DEDICATE A 10-ACRE PARK SITE TOE COUNTY WHICH HAS BEEN DONE, A 3E FIRE STATION SITE WHICH HAS NOTN DONE YET, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT E STATION SITE IN A MINUTE, AND TA 27-ACRE SCHOOL SITE TO THE SCHOD WHICH HAS BEEN DONE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP AGAINN SEE HERE IS THE COUNTY PARK SITH HAS ALREADY BEEN DEDICATED. THIS POOL SITE WHICH HAS ALREADN DEDICATED. AND DOWN HERE IS WHERE THE FIREN SITE WILL BE, AND I'LL SHOW YOUA DIFFERENT MAP THIS APPLICATION E FIRE STATION SITE FROM -- THIS E CALL SHEARWATER PARK BAIPT COMEN THROUGH AND EVENTUALLY WILL CONN TO COUNTY ROAD 16A. RIGHT NOW THE FIRE STATION SITES ACCESSED OFF SHEARWATER PARKWAYL BE. BUT IN THIS PROPOSAL IT'S TO MOE ACCESS, MOVE THE FIRE STATION SR A LITTLE BIT AND ACCESS IT OFF Y ROAD 16A, WHICH WE HAVE DEALT WE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON AND THEY AREE WITH IT. THEY'VE SIGNED OFF ON THEIR COMN THE SITE RELOCATION. SO AGAIN, THE OWNER AND DEVELOPS OBLIGATED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE Y $20 MILLION. SOME OF THAT MONEY IS ALREADY IE COUNTY'S COFFERS.
IT'S PAID ON A UNIT-BY-UNIT BASN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DRI DEVELOPT ORDER, AND SO THE COUNTY WANTEDE THAT MONEY IN HAND TO FOUR-LANES SECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 210 BETWN GREENBRIER ROAD AND SIM CIMARROK AWARE ON BOULEVARD, SORRY. SO THAT'S THE COUNTY'S INTRODUCN OBLIGATION WITH FUNDING FROM THE DEVELOPER. THIS MODIFICATION AGAIN, AS I SD EARLIER, PROPOSES TO RELOCATE TE STATION SITE. IT REFLECTS A RECENT LAND USE CN PURSUANT TO THE DRI DEVELOPMENT.
LAND USE CONVERSIONS ARE ALLOWEA MATTER OF RIGHT WITHIN THE CONFF DEVELOPMENT ORDER, AND THOSE EXS ARE DONE BASED ON TRANSPORTATIOP RATES SO THAT NO ADDITIONAL TRIE PUT ON THE ROADWAY NETWORK.
ALSO, WE'RE REFLECTING EXTENSIOE DRI PHASING BUILD-OUT AND EXPIRN DETAILS BASED ON LEGISLATIVE AND GUBERNATORIAL EMERGENCY DECLARAS LIKE FOR HURRICANES MATTHEW AND. THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTE COUNTY. THIS IS JUST UPDATING THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER TO REDIRECT TD THIS THEN UPDATING THE MAXIMUM E USING BY TYPE ALONG WITH A NOTET SAYS "IN NO EVENT SHALL THE NUMF COMBINED MULTI-FAMILY AND SINGL, BOTH OF WHICH ARE APPROVED USESY IN THIS PROJECT, CAN EXCEED THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MINIMUM." SO NO MORE UNITS. SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI-FEEL P .
HERE'S THE MASTER PLAN AGAIN. YOU SEE THIS IS THE FIRE STATIO. THIS IS THE REVISED MAP THAT SHT ACCESSING ONTO 16A AND BE THEN N SEE WHERE THE DIFFERENT LAND USL WITHIN THE PROJECT DOWN TO THE E AND SINGLE FAMILY, MULTI-FAMILYS DOWN IN THIS AREA OF THE PROJECL AS HERE.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL AY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE. >> I CALL THAT SHORT AND SWEET.
I HAVE TWO JUST TO CONFIRM A COE THINGS. ONE IS SO YOU -- NUMBER OF RESIL UNITS IN TOTAL IS NOT INCREASIN. YOU'RE JUST REDUCING SINGLE FAMD ADDING TOW MULTI-FAMILY.
>> WELL, AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR. IF YOU LOOK AT EXHIBIT 2 TO THEI DEVELOPMENT ORDER THAT IS IN YOR PACKAGE, YOU WILL SEE THAT THER- YOU WILL SEE A CATEGORY CALLED M ALLOWABLE UNITS." THAT'S A CATEGORY THAT'S BEING . BUT YOU'LL ALSO SEE A FOOTNOTE H THREE LITTLE RAS TRIXS THAT SAYE EVENT SHALL THE NUMBER OFCILLINY AND MULTI-FAMILY UNITS COMBINEDD THE PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED MAXIMUM 5
UNITS APPROVED IN RESOLUTION 20" >> SO THERE'S EFFECT ON THE SCHD HOUSE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
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>> NO, AND THE SCHOOL MITIGATIOT DEPENDENT ON THE UNIT TYPE. IT IS A PER-UNIT FEE REGARD LFTR IT'S SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTI-FAMD THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS IN SPECIAL CONDITION 32 OF THE DRI DEVELOPT ORDER, AND SO IT'S A TOTAL OF $2 PER UNIT. IT IS PAID IN A BIFURCATED PAYMT
THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE DEVELOPMR ON PAGE 27. >> CAN I -- I HAVE SOME QUESTIOT
THE EDUCATION, SINCE WE DIDN'T , ELLEN. >> SURE.
>> THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT THE DER IS PAYING, WILL PAY FOR THE EDU, THEIR DONATION TO THAT, IF YOU O
CALL IT THAT, IS $30,658,130. IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> YES. AND AT THE PRESENT TIME THERE HN $4,440 PER UNIT AT TIME OF APPRF CONSTRUCTION, BUT YOU MENTIONEDG ABOVE 2,633 UNITS, THE APPLICANL THEN PAY $10,512 PER UNIT.
RIGHT? THAT'S ANYTHING ABOVE 6,000 -- 3 UNITS.
>> NO, SIR. JUST TO CLARIFY, AND THIS IS INE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT ORDER, WE'T CHANGING THIS. SO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT ORDS THAT EACH UNIT RIGHT NOW PAYS $2 REGARDLESS OF ITS SINGLE FAMILYR MULTI-FAMILY. OF THAT $10,512, $4,440 PER UNID BY THE DEVELOPER AT CONSTRUCTION APPROVAL, WHICH IS THE HORDES OE CONSTRUCTION PLANS.
THEN THE REMAINING $6,072 IS PAT BUILDING PERMIT FOR EACH LOT OR BUILDING, AS THE CAUSE MAY BE.
IF IT'S A TOWNHOME BUILDING BE,U PAY ONE UNIT 4 ALL THE UNITS ATE TOWNHOME BUILD PERMIT.
THAT COUNTY WAS APPROVED BY THEY COMMISSION AND THE SCHOOL BOARDS AGO, AND THE CLIENT OR THE DEVES BEEN PAYING ALL OF THAT $10,512T FOR ALL OF THE UNITS THAT ARE OE GROUND RIGHT NOW.
>> CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH HASN PAID UP TO DATE. >> I'M GOING TO ASK MIC MAC CULO IS WITH THE OWNER AND DEVELOPERO ANSWER THAT. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DOLLAR A.
>> YES, OF COURSE. JUST CAN'T SHARE A MIC. >> MIKE MAC COUPLE FREE HOLD COMMUNITIES. IF YOU DON'T MIND I HAVE A CALCI DID MY ROAD FEES BECAUSE I EXPET
QUESTION BUT I CAN DO OUR -- >> YOU CAN DO THAT WITHOUT GLAS? >> JUST BARELY.
I HAVE BUILT-IN ZOOMERS IN MY C. >> MODERN TECHNOLOGY. WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED.
THIS IS HIGHER MATH, DR. MCCORM. >> YES. >> WE HAVE PAID ABOUT $13.7 MILO FAR. WE HAVE ABOUT 1,300 -- ACTUALLYE 1,311 UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN PLATO FAR AND THAT'S AT $10,512 PER U. AND JUST TO ELABORATE ON WHAT ED WE ISSUE VOUCHERS THROUGH OUR AT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. WE PAY $440 AT CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL BEFORE SITE CONSTRUCTIS ARE RELEASED, AND THEN WE GO TOE SCHOOL BOARD FOR THAT ADDITIONA. WE GET THE VOUCHERS FROM THE SCL
BOARD AND THEN TRANSFER THOSE TR BUILDER FOR BUILDING PERMITS. >> CONTINUING ON, STILL ON HOUS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR EDUCATION, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THERE'S $100 WHICH THE DEVELOPER IS GIVING TE ST. JOHNS COLONY HOUSING COMMUNY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION OR THE HOUG DIVISION, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YES. SPECIAL CONDITIONS. >> AND THAT HAPPENS IN MORE THAE PHASE HERE, SO IT WILL HAPPEN AN PHASE 2, BUT IT'S $100,000 THATO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN BOTH PHAS.
IS THAT HOW -- IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. AND THAT SPECIAL CONDITION 33 OI DEVELOPMENT ORDER, AND AGAIN, TE IS NOT BEING CHANGED, SO THE AFE HOUSING, ONE OF THE PAYMENTS HAN MADE, AS YOU NOTE. THE THE NEXT PAYMENT IS DUE OF E 1,041ST RESIDENTIAL UNIT, AND TU CAN CONTINUE ON TO READ THE RESE OBLIGATIONS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF AFFORDABLE UNITS.
ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF AFFORDABS WITHIN THE PROJECT. AND THAT'S ON PAGE 28 GOING ON F
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THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER. >> OKAY. WELL, I'VE WHILE I'VE GOT YOE SINCE WE DIDN'T TALK BEFORE, I O TALK A ABOUT LITTLE BIT ABOU. THE P A CAN'T HAS AGREED TO $208
FOR TRANSPORTATION. CORRECT? >> CORRECT.
AND THAT'S IN SECTION SPECIAL CN 28 OF THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDERG ON PAGE 21.
AND THAT FULLY MITIGATES TRANSPN IMPACTS, AND THE CONSTRUCTION, , THAT'S THE PIPELINING AND THAT F
THING, BUT THEN THE CONSTRUCTIOF WILL BE DONE BY THE COUNTY, COR? >> YES, SIR.
>> OR IS BEING DONE BY THE COUN. WILL BE DONE BY THE COUNTY. AS I SAID EARLIER, THIS WAS A ND DEAL WITH THE COUNTY IN 2014, A- 2013 GOING INTO '14, AND SO THEY WANTED TO BUILD THE ROAD, AND SE DEVELOPER AGREED TO PAY THAT $20,000,000.17008 TO THE COUNTYE COUNTY HAS THE OBLIGATION TO DOE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION AND DE, PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION, ANU READ THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT ORN TO THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 21 ONTO P, YOU CAN SEE THE REQUIREMENT FORS OF CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNTS PER UD THEN A BALLOON PAYMENT AT SOME S YOU WILL SEE SET FORTH IN ROMAN4 AND ON PAGE 22.
>> OKAY. A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS AND THEL LET YOU GO FOR THE TIME BEING.
THERE ARE $150,000 THAT IS BEIND UPON APPROVAL OF THE FIRST RESIL CONSTRUCTION PLAN, AND THAT IS N COMPLETED, AND $350,000 UPON ISF THE FIRST PLAT OR MULTI-FAMILY G PERMIT.
THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED. BUT NOW WE ARE SWITCHING TO WHAS TOWNHOUSES BEFORE IS NOW BEING D TO MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING PERMITH COULD INCLUDE TOWNHOUSES. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. AND TO YOUR POINT GOING TO 3, TE SUM OF $7,636.54 FOR EACH OF THT 1100 1100 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, THAT HAN COMPLETED YET.
>> WELL, I GUESS THE THING I WAG AT WAS THE PAYMENT OF THE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION FOR CR 210, THE WIF THAT, SHALL SATISFY THE ENTIRE TRANSPORTATION PROPORTIONATE SHF THE OFFER, CORRECT?
>> YES, SIR. >> AND FINALLY, THE DEVELOPERS N CONTRIBUTE HAVE IS HAVE 5,000 TE
VOYNE TO FUND MASS TRANSPORTATIN EFFORTS. >> YES, SIR.
>> I'M NOT HEARING YOU VERY WEL. >> YES, YOU ARE CORRECT. THAT I IN SPECIAL CONDITION -- ,
I'M LOOKING FOR THAT -- YES, THN SPECIAL CONDITION 28E AS IN ELL. >> THAT WAS JUST -- OKAY.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY SOE QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD HAVE ASKF WE HAD TALKED EX PARTE, WHICH W, SO I'LL LEAVE IT TO ANOTHER BOA& TO ASK YOU OTHER QUESTIONS AT TS POINT.
>> AND I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THE P. YOU AND I ARE BOTH BUSY PEOPLE. >> MY FAULT AS MUCH AS YOURS, ME
MORE. >> ALL RIGHT. SO AGAIN GOING THROUGH THE LINEF
QUESTIONS HERE, THAT WAS DR. MC. DR. HILSENBECK, QUESTIONS? >> NO QUESTIONS.
>> MR. WAINRIGHT. >> NO. >> I HAVE ONE, BUT IT DEALS WITH TRAFFIC. SO YOU ALSO READ, ELLEN, THAT TE CHANGEOVER BETWEEN RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL, HOW THAT IS GOING , THAT DOES NOT -- THAT'S DESIGNET DOES NOT INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. AND IF YOU LOOK AT EXHIBIT 2, WS THE LAND USE EXCHANGE TABLE TO , ALL OF THAT IS BASED ON TRANSPON TRIPS, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE S TABLES, YOU SEE THE TRIP RATES R GENERAL OFFICE, SINGLE FAMILY, MULTI-FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL, ANN YOU SEE HOW TO DO THE MATH IN TT TABLE OF HOW TO DO THE LAND USE CONVERSIONS, AND THEY ARE BASEDN TRANSPORTATION TRIPS.
>> VERY GOOD TO KNOW. MS. PERNTIONZ, QUESTIONS? >> NO QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU, MR. ALAIMO? >> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS . >> AND MR. MATOVINA.
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>> NO QUESTIONS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF WE HAVE AC COMMENTS. >> YES.
ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER CARD, MR. DO. SIR, IF YOU WILL GIVE US YOUR ND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE M,
AND IT WON'T START UNTIL YOU GE. >> MY NAME IS DON LOPER. I LIVE AT 184 DALTON CIRCUMSTANN SHEARWATER. I'M HERE TO OBJECT TO ANY CHANGY THIS DEVELOPER.
WE BOUGHT THESE HOUSES WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS MOSTLY SINGLE-FAMILY WITH SOME MULTI-F.
THEY WANT TO KEEP INCREASING THR OF MULTI-FAMILY. I UNDERSTAND THE POOL, WHICH ISY UNDERSIZED NOW, WILL BE STRAINEE THEY DESIGNED THE POOL TO TAKE O CONSIDERATION THAT PEOPLE WERE G POOLS IN, BUT WHEN YOU TAKE OUTE RESIDENCES AND PUT IN MORE MULT, THEY DON'T GET THE OPTION FOR T.
THE POOL IS ONLY DESIGNED FOR 2E IN A COMMUNITY OF 7800. THAT'S WHAT IT WILL EVENTUALLY .
SO THERE'S NO REASON THEY HAVE,Y HAVE NOT GIVEN A REASON WHY THED MORE MULTI-FAMILY, AND NUMBERS D UP BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL ONE SHES 19 -- 1,918 PRIVATE HOMES, 785 MULTI-FAMILY.
THAT COMES OUT TO 2703. THEN SHE MENTIONED 2895. IT WAS CHANGED TO ONCE ALREADY.
THAT'S AN INCREASE OF 150 OR SO. WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? FINALLY, IF THE BOARD REALLY FET THIS IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OE CITIZEN OF SHEARWATER, THE TAXP, THE HOMEOWNERS, AND THEY WANT TO THROUGH WITH THIS, WE'RE ASKINGU MAKE THEM PUT IN A CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE.
THE COMMUNITY HAS BEGGED THEM FR CONSTRUCTION SEMBLANCE. THEY'VE SAID, NO, WE DON'T HAVEO IT, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO I. WELL, THIS BOARD HAS THE POWER E THEM DO IT.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN AVMENTD. THEY HAVE A CONNECTION ALREADY,T ROAD TO 16A.
INSTEAD OF OUR KIDS DODGING CEMT TRUCKS AND SEMIS, MY NEIGHBOR, S YARD'S BEEN DRIVEN OVER 12 TIME.
HE'S AT A CORNER LOT. HE'S PUT AMERICAN FLAGS ON THE . THEY STILL DRIVE OVER IT.
IT'S A DANGEROUS SITUATION. THEY DON'T WANT TO RECTIFY IT. MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE OUF DELAWARE. THEY DON'T CARE. AND THAT'S MY COMMENTS.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> SO I OBJECT TO THIS WHOLE TH. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS HERE? >> NO.
>> ALL RIGHT. BILL, YOU'RE CAUSING A LOT OF F, SHUFFLING PAPERS AROUND.
IF YOU WANT TO MUTE YOURSELF, TD BE GREAT. >> NO, I'M NOT BUT I PUT ON IT R
PHONE SO I COULD HEAR BETTER. I WILL PUT IT OFF SPEACIALG PHO. >> THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE ANY CALLS ON-? >> ONLY IN. >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> THEN WE ARE BACK TO WHAT THET THE APPLICANT RESPOND TO ANY QU. >> YES.
I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THD MILLS RDRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER, EE 2006, HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR A COMBINATION OF SINGLE-FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY. THAT HAS BEEN NO SECRET THAT THD BE A GOOD NUMBER OF MULTI-FAMILS WITHIN THIS PROJECT, AND, IN FAE ARE TOWNHOMES UNDER CONSTRUCTIOT THERE NOW, AND IT DOES HELP PROE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSING FOR PO CAN'T AFFORD HOUSES THAT ARE $30 PLUS. AND SO THAT IS AGAIN NOT A SECRT THIS PROJECT WAS TO INCLUDE THOE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS. THE DEVELOPER HAS CONSTRUCTED A $10 MILLION AMENITY CENTER OUT , AND SO IT WAS SIZED ADEQUATELY E NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHS NOT INCREASING.
AGAIN, WE WENT OVER THE PARAMETT ARE IN THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDEE RAND USE EXCHANGE TABLE THAT CLY SHOWED THAT THERE CAN BE NO ADDL NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS. IT'S THE DIFFERENT CATEGORY, WHR IT'S SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTI-FAMT MAY BE CHANGED IN THE FUTURE UNE LAND USE CONVERSION.
THAT'S ALREADY ALLOWED IN THE DI DEVELOPMENT ORDER AND HAS BEEN E 2006.
GOING TO THE CONSTRUCTION ACCEST TO GO TO THE COLORIZED MAP BECAS PRETTY.
JUST SO EVERYONE IN THE ROOM IS, THE PROJECT CONSTRUCTION HAS GOM NORTH TO SOUTH, AND I'LL LET MIE
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UP HERE AND JOIN ME BECAUSE HE G TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE ON THP THEY HAVE CONSTRUCTED SO FAR.I BELIEVE THEY'RE DOING DOWN IN. THIS AREA HAS NOT BEEN CONSTRUC, SO THERE'S AN EXTENSION OF THIS, SHEARWATER PARKWAY, ALL THE WAYE COUNTY ROAD 16A HAS NOT BEEN ACCOMPLISHED YET.
AND SO TO THE POINT ABOUT CONSTN ACCESS, AGAIN, THE LAND DEVELOPE REQUIRES CERTAIN THINGS REGARDIG CONSTRUCTION ACCESS. THE COMPANION PUD CALLED ASHFORS PUD IS APPROVED.
IT'S NOT BEING MODIFIED. AND IT PROVIDE FOR PROGRAM R CONSTRUCTION ACCESS AND THE DEVA IS LIED BIDING BOO THESE. THERE'S NOTHING LEGALLY THIS BOS REQUIRED TO DO BECAUSE THEY'RE G THE CODE WITH REGARD TO CONSTRUN ACCESS THROUGH THE CODE AND THRE PUD.
AND AS FOR DELAWARE, THE TEAM I. THEY LIVE HERE. THEY WORK ON THE SITE EVERY DAY.
IT IS A DELAWARE COMPANY BECAUSY COMPANIES ARE INCORPORATED IN DE FOR VARIOUS LEGAL REASONS, BUT E
PEOPLE ARE HERE ON THE GROUND, E IS ONE OF THEM SO I'LL LET HIM . >> YOU HAVE ALL OF FOUR YOU OF R EMPLOYEES LIVE IN ST. JOHNS COU. WHAT YOU SEE IN PASTEL COLORS H, THOSE ARE ALL -- I'M NOT SURE HO MAKE THE POINTER WORK, BUT WHENE IN PASTEL THAT'S THROUGH OUR DR1 AND THOSE ARE ALL ON THE GROUND.
WE ARE DOING FINAL CLOSE-OUT WIE COUNTY NOW ON WHAT'S CALLED PHAD 2E WHICH IS THE GREEN, RED AND N THE SOUTHERN PORTION AND THOSE L IN CLOSE-OUT NOW. LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THEN 11 UNS PLATTED SO FAR. IN CLOSE-OUT NOW ON ABOUT 1500 S TOTAL
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I DON'T. PUBLIC COMMENT IS OVER, I'M SOR.
I. TO THE GUY WAVING HIS HAND. QUESTION? HEY, LET ME BACK UP.
IF YOU GUYS CAN MUTE YOUR PHONE, SOMEONE IS SHUFFLING PAPERS OR SOMETHING.
I THOUGHT WAS BILL. BUT IF THE AGENCY MEMBERS CAN MR PHONES UNTIL CALLED ON, I WOULD
APPRECIATE IT. GO AHEAD, ARCHIE. >> TO THE ISSUE OF THE CONSTRUCN ENTRANCE AND EXIT, I'M NOT SUREI UNDERSTOOD THE ANSWER TO THAT C. AND THE OTHER THING IS MS. AVER, WOULD YOU TELL US THE DIFFERENCE NUMBER OF MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGE ORIGINAL PACKAGE VERSUS NOW.
I LOOKED AT THE CHART, BUT I CAE THE CONVERSION. >> YES.
I'M GOING TO LET MIKE TELL YOU A PRACTICAL MATTER HOW THEY GET CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES IN AND OUI WILL SAY THAT THEY'RE IN THE PUR ASHFORD MILLS, WHICH AGAIN IS NR REVIEW TODAY, BUT IT DOES PROVIR CONSTRUCTION ACCESS PARAMETERS. THAT COMBINED WITH THE LAND DEVT CODE GIVE THE DEVELOPER THE RIGD OBLIGATIONS REGARDING CONSTRUCTN ACCESS. AND NONE OF THAT IS BEING REQUEO BE MODIFIED TODAY. BUT AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, MIKEF YOU CAN SHOW THEM WHERE THE CONN
ACCESS IS. >> SURE. SO LIKE ELLEN MENTIONED EARLIERS IS OFF COUNTY ROAD 210 RIGHT HE. SHEARWATER PARKWAY IS A MINOR CR BY COUNTY STANDARDS THAT GOES AA DOWN TO 16A RIGHT HERE, AND IF N SEE THE RED POINTER WE ARE AT OD ROUND B. RIGHT HER WRAPPING UP E CONSTRUCTION. THE SHEARWATER PARKWAY CONTINUEE SOUTH AND WILL HIT 16A AND TIMBE TRAIL GOES BY THE COUNTY ROAD AE SCHOOL SIEL SITE. SO ACCESS FROM 16A WILL BE OFF SHEARWATER PARKWAY AND ALSO TIME TRAIL UPON COMPLETION. THERE ARE NO IMPROVEMENTS THROUE YET. THERE'S AN OLD TRAIL ROAD. CONSTRUCTION ACCESS, A LOT OF TE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE HEARD AREM HOME BUILDING CONSTRUCTION. SITE CONSTRUCTION IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. COUNTY CODE DICTATES THAT WE'RET GOING PAST PLATTED LOTS OTHER TN THROUGH REAR YARDS OR ALONG THEY TO GHETTO SITE CONSTRUCTION, BUO GET TO SITE CONSTRUCTION BUT ASE BOARD KNOWS DURING HOME CONSTRUN THERE'S CONCRETE TRUCKS, DELIVEY CONSTRUCTION, FOLKS MOVING IN A.
HOME BUILDING DURING THE DEVELOA COMMUNITY, THERE'S LOTS OF CONSN ACTIVITY.
SO WE CERTAINLY WILL CONNECT PER DEVELOPMENT ORDER, WE'LL CONNECO SHEARWATER PARKWAY FROM 210 DOW.
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THAT WILL BE A COUNTY MINOR COL. IT WILL BE OWNED BY OUR CDB WHIA REQUEST BY THE COUNTY BUT IT WIEPUBLIC ACCESS UNGATED TO PROVIDA THRUWAY FROM COUNTY ROAD 210 TO. >> AND THEN ONE MORE -- I CALL IT A RED LINE. THAT SHOWS THE CHANGES THAT AREG PROPOSED TO THE LAND USE EXCHANE IN THAT THIS IS A RED LINE THATS THE CHANGES TO THE APPROVED DEVT ORDER, AND SO -- AND THAT WAS 2.
THAT'S THE RESOLUTION NUMBER OFE APPROVED. AND YOU SEE WE'RE JUST CHANGING CONDOMINIUMY TOWNHOME TO MULTI-Y BECAUSE WE HAD SOME CONFUSION AT INTERPRETATION.
AND THEN YOU SEE ALSO THESE NUMT ARE -- YOU SEE THE THREE ASTERIG ADDED.
YOU SEE THESE NUMBERS BEING ADD. AND THEN YOU SEE THE NEW NOTE TS "IN NO EVENT SHALL THE NUMBER OE FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY UNITS EE PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED MAXIMUM OF 2S APPROVED IN RESOLUTION 2014-241"
>> AND LIKE ELLEN MENTIONED WE D TWO CONVERSIONS PER THAT CONVERN TABLE THAT HAVE BEEN PROCESSED,O
THAT'S WHY THE NUMBERS HAVE CHAD DURING THE PROCESS. >> AND THAT'S A PERMITTED AS A F LAW UNDER THE DRI DEVELOPMENT O, DEVELOPERS ARE ALLOWED TO DO THE CONVERSIONS.
THAT'S WHY DEVELOPMENT ORDERS HE CONVERSION TABLES. >> THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL. LET'S GO THROUGH THE ROLL CALL R
QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. DR. MCCORMICK, ANY OTHER QUESTI? >> YES, I DO.
WELL, ACTUALLY PROBABLY A COUPLE COMMENTS, BUT A QUESTION. ACCORDING TO WHAT I'M READING HN TERMS OF RIGHT-OF-WAY SCWITION M TALKING ABOUT CR 210 FOR WIDENIG PURPOSES ABOUT, THE COLONY IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR -- AM I STAT IC? >> YOU'RE FINE, BILL. >> -- SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR G ALL OF RIGHTS-OF-WAY FOR CR 210 WIDENING. THAT WAS ONE COMMENT.
THE OTHER COMMENT I HAVE WAS IND TO AFFORDABLE UNITS, THAT'S WHEE COME TO THE 714 MULTI-FAMILY UNT SAYS THAT THE APPLICANT SHARES H VIEWERS IN 50 OF THOSE WILL BE AUTHORIZED FOR AMENDED -- BY THD DEVELOPMENT ORDER, THE AFFORDABS SHALL BE SET ASIDE FOR MEETING G NEEDS OF LOW TO MODERATE INCOMED WORKFORCE FAMILIES, AND THEN ITS THE DOLLAR VALUES. BUT IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO TT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRED RESTRICTIONS, SO THEY MAY NOT BO SELL 50 UNITS, SO IF THAT'S NEVR OCCURS, THEN, OF COURSE, THEY WE TO GO UP THE 50, I GUESS. CORRECT?
>> RIGHT. AND DR. MCCORMICK, TO GO TO YOUR QUESTION FIRST ABOUT THE RIGHT-, YES, IT IS THE DEVELOPER'S OBLIO PAY THE MONEY, AND IT'S THE COUS OBLIGATION TO ACQUIRE THE RIGHT, DESIGN AND BUILD THE ROAD OF COD 210. THAT HAS NOT CHANGED IN THIS APPLICATION. AND THEN WITH RESPECT TO AFFORDE HOUSING, YES, AGAIN THIS IS NOT CHANGING. THE DEVELOPER IS CONTRIBUTING D, BUT THEY'RE ALSO OBLIGATED TO BO FEWER THAN 50 OF THE 714 MULTI-Y UNITS AS AFFORDABLE UNITS, AND E ALL THE DESCRIPTION OF HOW THATM
WORKS THAT ARE ON PAGE 29 OF THI DEVELOPMENT ORDER. >> AND WE JUST WENT THROUGH THAH COUNTY STAFF ON HOW WE'RE GOINGO IMPLEMENT THAT. THERE'S A RECORDED MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS JUST APPY COUNTY COMMISSION I BELIEVE MARL EARLIER THIS YEAR BUT ON HOW WEG TO ROLL THAT OUT, SO WE'RE DEFIY DMOITD DOING THAT AND STARTED PG ON THAT NOW.
>> ALL RIGHT. >> BILL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> NO.
>> THANK YOU. DR. HILSENBECK. >> NO COMMENTS, BILL.
HE DID THE DID THE SINGLE QG TO ASK. >> MR. WAINRIGHT.
>> COMMENTS. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. IT LOOKS TO ME IT'S CONGRUENT WT
WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AND IS . >> ALL RIGHT. I HAVE NO COMMENTS.
MS. PERKINS. >> NONE. >> MR. ALAIMO.
>> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WITH ED SHE MAY HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED T COUNTY FIRE AND RESIDUE CUE DEP, THEY APPROVED THE FIRE STATION G MOVED, RIGHT, FROM THE CURRENT ?
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>> YES, THEY REVIEWED THE NEW L. MIKE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO INTOR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE FIRE DEPAR.
>> THANKS, ELLEN. I WENT AND MET WITH THE FIRE CH. THEY ACTUALLY PREFER THE IDEA OF ACCESSING ON 16A BECAUSE THEY CE THE ACCESS IN AND OUT ON 16A ANY ACCESS INTO SHEARWATER, SO THISA LOCATION THAT THEY ACTUALLY PRE, SWEEL WORK WITH THEM ON FINAL SF THIS.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> AND MR. MATOVINA, QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS? >> I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS R COMMENTS, MR. CHAIRMAN, BUT IF S
APPROPRIATE, I'D OFFER A MOTIONE I'M LAST IN LINE. >> ALL RIGHT.
WELL, IT'S TIME FOR A MOTION, T. >> ALL RIGHT. WELL, I WILL MAKE A MOTION FOR L OF DRIMOD 2020-02 FOR ASHFORD MN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FIVE FINDINF FACT IN THE STAFF REPORT.
>> MR. CHAIR, JUST TO CLARIFY TL BE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. >> RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
GOT IT. >> THANK YOU. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO THROUGH THE ROLL CALL.
DR. MCCORMICK. >> NO. >> DR. HILSENBECK.
>> YES. >> MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES.
>> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MS. PERKINS. >> YES.
>> MR. ALAIMO. >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT.
MR. MATOVINA. >> THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME VOT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I APPRECIATE IT. >> I ALREADY HAD A CHECK MARK T. I'M SORRY.
ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES, THEN, 6-1. CONGRATULATIONS.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY. I DON'T THINK I HEARD WHAT MR. MATOVINA'S VOTE WAS.
>> MR. MATOVINA, CAN YOU CLARIFR VOTE. >> YES.
>> IT WAS A YES VOTE FOR YOUR MO APPROVE. >> YES.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY.
UP NEXT IS STAFF REPORTS. >> NOTHING TO ADD REALLY OTHER E WILL HAVE A JULY 2ND PLANNING AD
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ZONING AGENCY IN THE PAST. SOMETIMES IT HAS BEEN CANCELED E BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BTTHEY'RE HOLDING THEIRS, AND SO , SIR. >> GREAT.
DO WE KNOW HOW MANY ITEMS ARE OT AGENDA? >> SIX.
>> IT'S RIGHT BEFORE THE NATIONL HOLIDAY. SIX ITEMS? SHAME, SHAME, SHAME. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL, . SO THIS WAS OBVIOUSLY OUR FIRSTH THE APPLICANTS PRESENTING, AND M CURIOUS WHO DOES THEIR POWERPOIT PRESENTATIONS?
>> WHO DOES THEM IN. >> YEAH, SO THE FIRST COUPLE OF, THE HOMEOWNERS.
>> THE IDEA IS, AND I THINK OUTL OF THEM EVEN THOUGH WE HAD THE E WITH THE VARIANCE, I THINK THE N THE A REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION. IT WAS CLEAR. SO I WOULD SAY THAT THE FIRST C, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T DO THIS FOA LIVING BUT THEY DID A GOOD JOB. BUT THEY'RE ON THEIR OWN TO DO R PRESENTATIONS, HOWEVER, STAFF IO REALLY PROBABLY LOOK AT THEM. I KNOW SOME OF OUR SPHAF HAS GIM TEMPLATES -- STAFF HAS GIVEN THM TEMPLATES, AND TALKING TO THEM E THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT RS-3 R OWN. STAFF IS GUIDING THEM TELLING TT THE ZONING, TELLING THEM ABOUT D USE, AND TRYING OUR BEST TO SEES WORKS AND GIVE THEM WHAT THEY NN ORDER TO PRESENT, AND IF THEY CT
TO HIRE A PROFESSIONAL. >> RIGHT. MY SUSPICIOUS WAS THEY HAD A NIT THERE AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUE LAND USE MAPS AND EVERYTHING EL. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING, ATT WITH THE FIRST PASS HERE, YOU CE THE GENTLEMAN WHO HAD THE TRAILE RV JUST SORT OF SHOW US A SITE D THAT'S IT, AND THAT HANDY CAPS T TO SORT OF GO BACKWARDS AND TRYL THE INFORMATION OUT.
>> AND I HAVE TALKED WITH STAFFD WE'LL PROBABLY TALK SOME MORE AO THROUGH THESE AND LEARN FROM THO REALLY LET THEM KNOW, LOOK, YOUE A PROFESSIONAL OR YOU CAN DO THT IF YOU DO IT ON YOUR OWN AND YOT FEEL COMFORTABLE PRESENTING THE INFORMATION OR FEEL THAT YOU DOE A GOOD HANDLE ON IT, PLEASE KNOS YOUR APPLICATION, RIGHT? YOU MIGHT BE SHORTCHANGING YOURF YOU WILL.
>> I THINK HAVING THE APPLICATIT LATEST A FORMATTED POWERPOINT, S HELPFUL.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, THEY DON'T KNOWT THEY'RE DOING REALLY. OKAY.
DONE WITH STAFF REPORTS? GOOD. ANNUALS REPORTS AGENCY REPO.
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NOTHING? ARCHIE? YOU DON'T WANT TO CRACK ANOTHER?>> YOU TOLD ME NOT TO. >> THAT'S RIGHT. ONLY THE CHAIRMAN GETS TO DO TH.
ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT A MEETING COMING UP ON JULY 2ND RIGHT BEFORE THE THREEY HOLIDAY. I GUESS WE GET PAID OVERTIME FO, RIGHT?
I SEE FINGER POINTING. ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A MOTION TO? >> SO MOVED.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANKS, EVERYBODY. >> THANK YOU.
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