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[Call to Order]

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TEST. TEST.

TEST. THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER.

DO YOU WANT TO READ THE PUBLIC NOTICE.

>> IF YOU WANT TO DO TYPICALLY WE'LL DO A REMOTE ROLL CALL SO WE CAN SEE EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE IF THERE'S ANYONE ON THE PHONE.

[Reading of the Public Notices Statement]

>> OKAY. I WILL GO AHEAD AND READ THE PUBLIC NOTICE STATEMENT. THIS PROMMERLY NOTICE HEARING HELD REQUIREMENT WITH THE LAW. PUBLIC CAN COMMENT ON TOPICS AT DESIGNATED TIME. ANY MEMBER OF THE DESIRING TO SPEAK MUST INDICATE BY FILLING OUT SPEAKER CARD TO BE TURNED INTO STAFF. ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS MAY BE HEARD ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.

THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT THE TIME DURING THE MEETING ON EACH ITEM FOR THREE MINUTES AS DESIGNATED BY THE CHAIR.

SPEAKER SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES WHO THEY REPRESENT AND STATE ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

SPEAKER MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIMONY.

IF THEY DON'T THE FACT THAT TESTIMONY IS NOT SWORN THEY CONSIDERED BY WORD DETERMINING THE WEIGHT OF TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY. IF A PERSON DECIDES APPEAL A DECISION MADE WITH RESPECT TO MATTER CONSIDERED AT THE HEARING SUCH A PERSON WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE VERBATIM RECORD IS MADE.

ANY EVIDENCE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING SUCH AS DRAWING OR PHOTOGRAPH WILL BE RETAINED BY STAFF AS PART OF THE RECORD.

THE RECORD WILL THEN BE AVAILABLE FOR THE OTHER BOARDS OR THE COUNTY IN ANY REVIEW OF REPEAL RELATED TO ITEM.

THEY ARE REMINDED THEY SHOULD STATE WHETHER THEY HAD OR ANY OTHER PERSON REGARDING N- THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ITEM OUTSIDE OF FINAL HEARING OF THE BOARD.

IF SUCH COMMUNICATION HAS OCCURRED THE BOARD SHOULD IDENTIFY THE PERSON INVOLVED AND THE MATERIAL CONTENT OF THE COMMUNICATION. WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE. WE WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS? I RECOGNIZE VIVIAN.

[Public Comment]

>> BARELY, THOUGH. [INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND FELLOWS MEMBER.

WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

AND YOU WILL GIVEN THREE MINUTES FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU VIVIAN BROWNING. I'M PRESIDENT OF ELONA MAIN STREET AND ALSO BROKER ON THE OF A SMALL BUSINESS IN THE TOWN CENTER OF LONG BEACH TOWN CENTER REALTY.

I HAD A QUICK QUESTION. I DON'T SEE WORKSHOP ON HERE.

AND I BELIEVE BARRY JOE WAS -- DR. PRICE WAS TRYING TO SEND IN SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THEM.

>> WE ACTUALLY HAVE IT. AFTER WE FINISH THESE.

WE WILL GO TO WORKSHOP AND PUT IT IN THERE.

>> GOOD. IT WILL BE IN THERE.

I WANT TO MAKE ONE GENERAL COMMENT.

SEEMS LIKE THE TOWN CENTER IS PRETTY MUCH REOPENED.

I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE PROGRESS ON THE HOTELS.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE HYATT STARTED TAKING SHAPE.

AND THE HOLIDAY INN IS MOVING RIGHT ALONG AND I THINK BEACHES WILL BE OPEN SOON WITH THEIR DOCK EXPANSION.

TODAY I WILL BE SPEAKING ABOUT THE GENERAL STORE AND THE SIGN FOR THE CAMPGROUND. I THINK ALL OF THESE ARE POSITIVES FOR SMALL BUSINESS IN OUR TOWN CENTER AND IN OUR CORRIDOR. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VIVIAN. ANY MORE GENERAL COMMENTS?

>> OKAY. MADAM CHAIR, YOU MAY WANT TO WAIT A MINUTE. AND THEN SEE IF ANYONE DOES CALL IN ON THE PHONE FOR ANY PUBLIC TYPE COMMENT.

ARE THERE PEOPLE ON THE PHONE? >> THIS THE FRANK APPLICANT FOR

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AGENDA ITEM WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.

I'M ON THE PHONE. >> PERFECT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

[Item 1]

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM 2020-01 NORTH BEACH CAMP RESORT MONUMENT SIGN. THAT'S REPLACING THE EXISTING

SIGN. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN.

I DO HAVE AN E-MAIL TO READ REGARDING THE WORKSHOP THAT WAS MENTIONED JUST A MOMENT AGO. I CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT IF

THAT'S -- >> I THOUGHT WE USUALLY DO THAT WORKSHOP ITEM ALTERNATE THE END. LET THESE GUYS DO THEIR

PRESENTATION. >> THIS IS A AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE FOR NORTH COASTAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.

IT'S FOR THE NORTH BEACH CAMP SIGN REPLACEMENT.

AND AGAIN AS REQUEST TO REPLACE THE EXISTING SIGN FACE PANELS WITH NEW PANELS MEASURING APPROXIMATELY 60 INCHES WHICH 90 INCHES. I HAVE ON THE SCREEN THE NEW SIGNS LOCATED ON THE TOP PORTION OF THE PICTURE AND THEN THE REPLACE. THE OLDER SIGN TO BE REPLACED ON THE BOTTOM PORTION. THE ONLY THINGS I WOULD POINT OUT IS THAT THE SIGNS ARE THE SAME OVERALL SIZE AS THE REPLACEMENT SIGN GENERALLY SPEAKING REPRESENT THE SAME COLORWAYS THAT ARE THERE. THEY DO MEET ALL THE APPLICABLE OVERLAY REQUIREMENTS AND AS WE HEARD EARLIER THE APPLICANT IS

AVAILABLE ON THE PHONE. >>

>> THE SIGNS WILL SIT UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER; RIGHT? THE HEIGHT I WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH NOTE I DON'T THINK SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGE FROM WHAT'S PRESENTED.

YOU MAY BE ABLE TO CHIME IN. THE HEIGHT EXACTLY THE SAME.

THE NEW FACE PANEL SIT ON THE EXISTING PILING FRAMEWORK.

THE EXISTING SIGN APPROXIMATELY 144 INCHES HIGH AND -- SO THE

NEW PANEL. >>

>> TO THE TOP FROM THE GROUND TO THE TOP.

SAME HEIGHT. >> SO FRANK, COULD YOU JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZE WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES AND WHY YOU HAVE A NEW SIGN? THEY LOOK SO CLOSE TO ONE

ANOTHER. >> OKAY.

THE BOTTOM PANELS WHICH I DON'T THINK THEY LOOK VERY MUCH LIKE THE OTHERS. BUT THAT'S FINE.

IT'S FADED OUT. AND IT'S ALSO THE ORIGINAL DESIGN IN MY OPINION VERY COMPLICATED.

AND SO WE WANTED NEW SIGN PANEL THAT DON'T LOOK FADED AND MORE SIMPLE AND EASY TO READ AS CARS ARE DRIVING DOWN THE HIGHWAY.

THE TWO PANELS ON THE TOP THE KIND OF SUN DOWN COLORS ARE THE

NEW PANELS. >> I SEE IN THE OLD ONE IS THE ONE WITH THE PELICAN. THERE'S NO PELICAN IN THE NEW

PANEL. >> THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S FINE. >> I WAS LOOKING ACROSS.

ALSO YOU HAVE BIGGER ARROW WHICH I THINK IS VERY HELPFUL TO ANYONE TRYING TO FIND THE RESTAURANT.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM OR QUESTIONS? MADAM CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.

IN MY STAFF REPORT I HAVE THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD TO INCLUDE THAT ALL THE LIGHTING WILL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION RECORDING SEA TURTLE LIGHTING.

I WOULD LIKE THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT IT WILL MEET ALL LIGHTING REGULATIONS FOR THE OVERLAY DISTRICT WHICH IS 3.09.

>> WHAT ARE THOSE LIGHT PLANNING RECOMMENDATIONS?

>> SIMPLY THEY WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE AND IT'S NOTED.

>> I NOTICED ON THE OTHER APPLICATION THEY HAVE NO LIGHTING AFTER 10:00 P.M. THE PROPOSED COUNTRY STORE.

>> YES. AND I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING

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THE ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION MADE THE COMMENT RELATING TO SEA TURTLE LIGHTING AND I WOULD SAY THAT BROADLY SPEAKING SEA TURTLE LIGHTING WILL BE THE MOST RESTRICTIVE LIGHTING THAT WE

COULD HAVE IN THE AREA. >> ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS?

>> JUST -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP GOING BACK.

>> I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE MY ATTENDANCE HERE.

VIVIAN BROWNINGS 190 VEOA. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER ONE. I BELIEVE THIS SIGN IS AN IMPROVEMENT. WE LIKE THE VIEW ACROSS THE RIVER. I THINK THAT WILL BE NICE.

ONE THING I WANTED TO ASK THE BOARD TO SEE IS THAT THIS SIGN HAS TWO LEGS ON IT WITH YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE BOTTOM OF IT.

AND I BELIEVE ONE POINT REDID THE CAP SIGN.

AND I BELIEVE IT'S ON TWO POLES WHEN THE GENERAL STORE COMES UP I WANT TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THAT MAIN SIDE.

I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. I'M FAVOR WHAT THE FAMILY IS DOING WITH TEXT PANNION S -- THE EXPANSION OF THEIR CAMPGROUND.

IT'S RIGHT ON TIME. I THINK EVERYBODY IN, IN WORLD BUYING AN RV TODAY RIGHT AFTER I THOUGHT OF IT.

EVERYBODY ELSE DID. NEEDLESS TO SAY I DON'T HAVE ONE YET. THANK YOU.

I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS SIGN. THAT LOOKS GOOD.

THANK YOU. >> WE ARE IN THE MAIN STREET.

>> THANK YOU, VIVIAN. >> ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?

>> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE NEW SIGNAGE AND WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WOULD MEET ALL OF THE LIGHTING

RECOMMENDATIONS 3-09. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND THE MOTION. >> GENE MILLER SECONDED THE

MOTION. >> ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE. >> I JUST ONE QUESTION WHAT'S

THE TIME FRAME FOR INSTALLATION? >> THIS THE MIKE.

AFTER THIS APPROVAL I WILL LET THEM GO AHEAD.

AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO GET PERMITTED AND FABRICATED.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW. HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT MONTH OR

SO. >> GREAT.

THANK YOU. IT LOOKS MUCH BETTER BY THE WAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 2020-01 IS PASSED.

[Item 2]

>> WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 2.

OLTER'S OLD COUNTRY STORE. I DON'T HAVE A LONG PRESENTATION FOR THIS ONE. APPLICANT HAS REALLY NICE PRESENTATION THAT I'M GOING TO LET HER GO THROUGH.

BUT GENERALLY THIS REQUEST TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF GENERAL STORE. THAT WILL ALSO INCLUDE TAKEOUT SERVICES WITH LIMITED SEATING AND RENTALS FOR BEACH GOING EQUIPMENT. WE GOT THAT PICTURE UP ON THE SCREEN. AND A LITTLE BIT OF THE SIGN OUT. OTHERWISE I WILL PASS IT TO SHANNON. SO WE HEAR THEM.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. SHANNON OSEVEDO WITH MATTHEWS DESIGN GROUP. THIS IS THE OTTER'S OLD COUNTRY STORE. I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO INTRODUCE OUR PROJECT TEAM FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

OUR CLIENT IS ROB DENEGERO THERE IN THE AUDIENCE.

HE WILL BE DEVELOPING THIS COUNTRY STORE.

WITH MYSELF IS ERIC LANEHART WITH MATTHEWS DESIGN GROUP WHO HAS WORKED ON THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE PLAN.

ENGINEERING IS NOT HERE TODAY. BUT THAT WOULD BE CHRIS BUTTERMORE WORKING TO CONSTRUCTION PLANS WITH MATTHEWS DESIGN. AND FOR SIGNAGE, WE WORKED WITH CHUCK KNIGHT WITH HERITAGE SIGNS.

YOU CAN SIGNED SEE THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE ARE WITHIN THE VELANO AREA. IT'S A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF THE TOWN CENTER. NORTH OF THE BRIDGE.

THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.

IT'S VACANT. BEACHCOMBER WAY.

WE'RE FACING SLIGHTLY NORTHWEST FROM THIS VIEW.

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THEN JUST SO YOU CAN HAVE PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THE SITE LOOKS LIKE FROM EACH OF THOSE PERVIEWS.

THIS THE DEFINITELY SMALL IN-FILL LOT.

WORKING WITH SITE CONSTRAINTS. WE THINK WE HAVE A SITE PLAN THAT WILL WORK WELL FOR SMALL GENERAL STORE AND TAKEOUT FACILITY. WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE SITE AREA COMING OFF BEACHCOMBER WAY.

JUST THE ONE ACCESS POINT OFF BEACHCOMBER ABOUT.43 ACRES IN SIDE. THE BUILT SPACE 1940 INCLUDING THE MAIN BUILDING WHICH IS THE GENERAL STORE TAKEOUT AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THIS NICE EXPANSIVE OUTDOOR DECK AREA WHERE THERE'S SOME OUTDOOR SEATING AND THE SMALLER STRUCTURE RIGHT HERE IS GOING TO BE JOINED BY THE DECK. AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE BEACH RENTALS WHICH COULD INCLUDE THINGS LIKE LAWN CHAIRS AND BOOGIE BOARDS. THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

. >> WHERE IS RENTAL SHACK?

>> IT'S IN THIS LITTLE SPOT RIGHT HERE.

THIS THE WHOLE FOOTPRINT. BUT YOU'VE GOT THE DECK AROUND THERE. THE MAIN STRUCTURE.

KITCHEN WOULD BE IN THE BACK AND THEN THIS SMALLER STRUCTURE RIGHT HERE WOULD BE WHERE THE BEACH RENTALS WOULD GO.

>> IN TERMS OF SET BACKS AND BUFFER FOR THE SITE.

WE 15-FOOT SET BACK AND ON THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY ON THE COASTAL HIGHWAY THERE'S ACTUALLY A 30-FOOT SCENIC BUFFER.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT IS IN RELATION TO THE STRUCTURE.

AND THEN ON THE WEST THERE'S A 20-FOOT LAND USE BUFFER.

AND THAT WOULD BE TO BUFFER TO THE RESIDENTIAL THAT'S WESTWARD.

>> I WILL HAND IT OVER TO SARAH RYAN TO TALK THROUGH THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND FLOOR PLAN.

>> I'M SARAH RYAN. SARAH RYAN ARCHITECTURE.

YOU CAN SEE FROM THE RENDERINGS IT'S A ONE-STORY LOW-SCALE STRUCTURE. WRAP AROUND PORCHES.

WRAP AROUND ROOF. IT HAS A NICE STREET SCALE PRESENCE. THERE'S A LOT OF OUTDOOR DINING -- THESE ARE THE VIEWS FROM COASTAL HIGHWAY.

IT HAS A REALLY NICE APPROACH TO THE STREET.

IT'S MEANT TO LOOK LIKE AN OLD COUNTRY STORE.

THIS IS FROM BEACHCOMBER. THE DRIVEWAY GOING INTO THE PARKING LOT RAMP UP AND THIS MORE ON THE KITCHEN COOLERS FLOOR PLAN. THIS IS THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN, THE GENERAL LAYOUT THE WRAP AROUND DECKS.

YOU CAN SEE THE FRONT DOOR THAT WOULD FACE COASTAL HIGHWAY INTO A BIG SPACE WITH RETAIL. SODA BAR, ICE CREAM.

THERE ARE SERVICE FUNCTION IN THE BACK.

THE KITCHEN, COOLER, STORAGE. A SMALL OFFICE.

AND YOU CAN SEE IN THAT UPPER LEFT CORNER OF THE RENTAL PLACE FOR BOOGIE BOARDS AND SURFBOARDS.

THESE OVERALL DIMENSIONS. IT'S PRETTY SMALL SCALE STRUCTURE. IN THE ROOF PLAN.

WE ARE USING A FIVE FEET CRIMP MEDAL ROOF.

AND THE COLOR SCHEMES ARE ALMOST CHARLESTON GREEN.

IT'S SORT OF A GREEN BLACK AND WINDOWS WOULD BE THAT.

THAT'S A NICE CONTRAST WITH THE MAIN BODY OF THE BUILDING SORT OF A CREAMY WHITE. THIS IS THE LIGHTING PLANS.

ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATIONS. WE HAVE A BOARD ON THE FIRST FLOOR ON THE DECK LEVEL AND SHINGLE STYLE IN THE GABLE.

THESE ARE THE REAR ELEVATION AT THE BOTTOM AND THE SIDE

ELEVATION FACING BEACHCOMBER. >> THESE ARE OUR MATERIAL SAMPLES. THE METAL ROOF.

THE DARK GREEN/BLACK SCHEME WITH THE WHITE BODY OF THE BOARD AND THE SHINGLES. AND I WILL PASS IT OFF TO THE

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LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. >> UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS

FOR ME RIGHT NOW? >> ONLY ENTRANCE ON BEACHCOMBER;

CORRECT? >> NO.

THAT'S THE MAIN ENTRY. WE HAVE AN ENTRY FROM THE PARKING -- LET ME GO BACK TO PLAN.

ALSO ENTRIES ON THE SIDE. >> YOU HAVE THE RAMP GOING TO THE ACTUAL BUILDING BUT FOR VEHICULAR -- YOU ONLY ENTER THROUGH BEACHCOMBER WAY. THERE'S AN ENTRY ON I DON'T KNOW IF THIS POINTER. BY THE RENTAL.

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CAR -- >> VEHICULAR.

>> IT'S BEACHCOMBER. UH-HUH.

>> EXACTLY. THANK YOU.

HELLO. ERIC LANEHART ARCHITECT WITH MATTHEWS GROUP. THERE WE GO.

SO THIS LANDSCAPE PLAN IS DESIGNED TO MEET THE CODE AND REQUIREMENTS ALONG WITH ENHANCING THE AREA ESPECIALLY ALONG THE SCENIC BUFFER. WE HAVE THE AROUND THE RETENTION AREAS THAT WILL CREATE -- 3-4 FOOT STALL VEGETATIVE NATIVE LOOK. ALL THE PLANTS THAT WE ARE USING ARE NATIVE. IT'S PRETTY HARSH ENVIRONMENT.

IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO -- YOU PROBABLY GOT ABOUT SELECTION OF 20 PLANTS YOU CAN USE IN THE SPOT.

I THINK WE CHOSE SOMETHING THAT WILL LOOK ATTRACTIVE IN THE BEGINNING WHEN IT'S INSTALLED. SO --

>> IS THERE A LIST OF -- I ASSUME THAT'S CORPUS GEMINADA.

>> HERE'S A LIST OF THE MATERIALS.

>> DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE FOR CORPUS GEMINADA.

>> IT WILL BE A NATIVE GROWER. IT WON'T BE LARGE.

>> DO YOU HAVE A NURSERY? >> I DON'T.

>> WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A NURSERY.

>> WE WOULD HAVE LOOK. IT'S IN THE FORGET THE NAME IT'S A NATIVE NURSERY THAT GROWS AND. THEY DON'T HAVE LARGE ONES.

WE WILL HAVE MAKE SURE WE PICK ONE THAT MEETS THE MINIMUM CODE

AND ALLOWS THE NEW GROWTH. >> BUT YOU HAVE A LIST

OF -- BECAUSE I STILL QG. >> HERE ARE SOUTHERN MAGNOLIA.

STABLE PALMS. RED CEDAR AND THEN THE SAND LIVE OAK. THEN WE HAVE THE GRASS ON THE RIGHT. I CAN FLICK BACK IF I NEED TO.

>> ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WILL HAVE.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS IS TIME TO BRING IT UP.

WE HAVE PLANS FOR A MULTIUSE TRAIL ALONG A-1-A POSSIBLY.

AND I THINK EL SEE YOU HAVE 30-FOOT BUFFER.

BUZZ DOES THAT INCLUDE THE PLANTINGS AS WELL?

>> YEAH. THE 30-FOOT -- THE AREA THAT GOES FROM THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING OR THE PARKING OUT TO THE PROMPT LINE. THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL

LANDSCAPING TO THE CURB. >> IS THERE A ROOM FOR A TRAIL

ALONG THE COASTAL HIGHWAY? >> IT CAN BE INCORPORATED, I THINK. WE HAVE TO LOOK -- HOW BIG IS

THE TRAIL? >> FAIRLY WIDE, I THINK.

>> TRYING TO THINK. TWELVE FEET WIDE, MAYBE.

HASN'T BEEN THOUGHT OF UNTIL NOW.

IN WE GET SOME PLANS OR MAYBE THROW OUT A CONCEPTUAL FOR IT.

WE CAN CERTAINLY TRY. IT WOULD BASICALLY 8 TO 10 FEET I BELIEVE IS THE ESTIMATED SIZE. IT'S FOR BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS. IT'S A MULTIUSE TRAIL THAT GOES

ALL THE WAY AROUND. >> I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT.

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[INAUDIBLE] >> I THINK SASHA POINT IF YOU PUT SOMETHING PERMANENT THEN YOU HAVE TO REMOVE.

IF THERE'S A WAY TO PLAN THE WAY YOUR ENGINEERING IN THE EVENT IT DOES COME. WE HOPE TO LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE THAT TRAIL. YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THERE'S SOME ACCOMMODATION. [INAUDIBLE]

IT SAY 15-FOOT SET BACK. >> THERE'S AN OVERHEAD POWER

LINE THERE. >> YEAH.

ALL MATERIAL I BELIEVE IS 25-FEET HAS TO BE PLANTED ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT. I ASSUMED WE WOULD TALK ABOUT

THE SIGNS LATER. >> I THINK HE'S LANDSCAPE;

RIGHT? >> YES.

THAT'S A DOT SIGN. IT WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE SOURCE FOR CORPUS GEMINA.

WE HAVE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT WANTS TO USE CORPUS GEMINA ALSO.

>> I WILL SEE IF I CAN FIND THAT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

JUST A COMMENT. THAT POTENTIAL MULTIUSE TRAIL I THINK THIS IS SET UP IN A WAY THAT WOULD REALLY BE TO BENEFIT FOR THAT. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT YOUR MAIN DOOR ENTRANCES FACING COASTAL HIGHWAY THEN YOU'VE GOT THE 30-FOOT SCENIC EDGE. I'M THINKING LATER DOWN THE LINE WHEN WE BROUGHT IT UP JUST SORT OF IN GENERAL DURING OUR PREAPPLICATION PROCESS WITH SANLT -- ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

SOUNDS LIKE IT'S WORKING THROUGH THE FEASIBILITY STAGE.

IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD.

THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION SINCE WE HAVE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN UP NOW. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE WE'RE SORT OF WORKING IN TANDEM WITH THE CONSTRUCTION PLANNING AND WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING SOME UNDERGROUND RETENTION.

WHAT WE FIND IS THAT PERHAPS IT MAY BE MORE EFFECTIVE TO SACRIFICE COUPLE OF PARKING SPACES IN ORDER TO NOT REQUIRE SO MUCH STORMWATER RETENTION BY REDUCING IMPERVIOUS SURFACE SO LONG AS WE MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR THE TAKE OUT AND GENERAL STORE USE. WHAT I WOULD OFFER WE'VE GOT THIS SITE PLAN FOR YOUR REVIEW TODAY.

IF WE COULD CAVEAT THAT WITH THE OPTION OF IF WE WANTED TO REMOVE TWO OR THREE PARKING SPACES THAT, THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PLANNING WITHOUT COMING BACK TO THE OVERLAY BOARD. PARKING REQUIREMENT DEPENDING ON

HOW MANY SEATS YOU HAVE. >> HOW MANY PARKING SPACES? I THINK I COUNTED 12. IT WAS DIFFICULT.

>> YEAH. AND THE WAY THAT IT WORKS IS YOU'VE GOT ONE PER THREE SEATS. WITH THE SEATING BEING PRIMARILY OUTDOOR ON THE DECK THAT COULD EASILY BE REVISED YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE SMALL SCALE AND NOT

HAVE AS MUCH SEATING. >> WHAT'S THE TOTAL PARKING

SPACES NOW? >> OH.

IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE.

>> I COUNTED 50 SEATING SPOTS ON YOUR DECK PLAN.

HERE IT IS. WE HAVE 8 ON ONE SIDE.

>> AND 7. SO 15 TOTAL.

>> PARKING SPACES? >> YES.

15 PARKING SPACES? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

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>> THERE'S NINE TABLES OF FOUR AND THEN THE PICTURE -- IN THE PICTURE YOU HAVE SEATING ALONG THE EDGE OF THE WALL.

AN ADDITIONAL 10. I'LL ADDRESS THE SEATING.

WE HAD SUBMITTED THE PLANS A MONTH AGO BEFORE WE STARTED GETTING INTO THE PERMITTING. WE HAVE SINCE REMOVED THE TABLE TO COMPLY WITH THE PARKING. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU NOTICING

THAT. >> I DID HAVE ONE QUICK MORE QUESTION ON PARKING. WHAT WAS THE MATERIAL.

YOU SAID IT WAS IMPERMEABLE. WHAT MATERIAL ARE YOU USING FOR

THE PARKING LOT? >>

>> IT'S A PAVED PARKING LOT. BUT WHAT WE WERE PLANNING TO DO IS HAVE STORM TECH UNDERNEATH WHICH ARE ESSENTIALLY CONTAINERS OF GRAVEL TO HOLD AND TREAT WATER.

>> WHERE DOES THE RUN OFF WATER -- WHERE IS THAT GOING?

>> IT'S RUNNING INTO THE STREET? DO THEY RECAPTURE THE WATER IN SOME WAY? THE BARRELS YOU ARE TALKING

ABOUT? >> I'M LAUGHING.

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE OUR ENGINEER HERE.

HE WOULD PROBABLY BEST THE BEST PERSON TO EXPLAIN THAT.

BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE TREATED ON SITE. IT CANNOT RUN OFF SITE.

I CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON WHAT THAT ENGINEERING PLANS LOOKS LIKE FOR STORMWATER.

>> THANK YOU. >> SURE.

>> WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO RENT BEACH EQUIPMENT? HOW DO THEY DRIVE IN AND DRIVE OUT AND DO THEY PARK? I MEAN IF I CAME IN, WHERE -- I WOULD COME IN ON BEACHCOMBER AND GO TO THE REAR THERE?

>> TO THE SHED? >> HOW D DOES THAT WORK.

HOW DO YOU RENT THE UMBRELLA. >> PERHAPS OUR CLIENT CAN ANSWER THAT. BUT JUST TO KIND OF POINT YOU TO WHERE THE PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS WOULD GO.

SO YOU COME IN AND PARK OFF BEACHCOMBER.

AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE ONE ENTRANCE TO GET ON THE DECK IF YOU PARK UP HERE IN THE NORTH. THEN IF YOU PARK ON THE SIDE THERE'S A RAMP THAT WILL COME OUT ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THEN OF COURSE YOU'VE GOT THE MAIN ENTRANCE WHICH FACES COASTAL HIGHWAY. AND THEN THE ENTRANCE TO THE

RENTAL IS HERE. >> THE ONLY WAY TO GET OUT OF THERE TO GO BACK TO BEACHCOMBER. YOU COME IN ON BEACHCOMBER AND

YOU EXIT ON BEACHCOMBER. >> BY CAR, YES.

>> WE PROBABLY NEED A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION FROM T.

THE PEOPLE COMING IN TO PICK UP RENTAL EQUIPMENT AND OTHER THINGS JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE A BIG JAM UP.

>> >> HIGH NAME THE ROB DEGNANARO.

COULD YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS. 314 CORPUS POINT DRIVE.

ST. AUGUSTINE, VELANO. >> YOU'VE GOT AN IN AND OUT OFF OF BEACHCOMBER. THE REASON WE PUT THE RENTAL ON THE BACK END WAS TO TRY TO HOLD THE TWO SPACES CLOSEST TO COASTAL HIGHWAY AND WE'LL A SIGN UP THERE.

OKAY. AT LEAST ON THE PAVE.

RENTALS. WHAT PEOPLE CAN PULL IN, COME AND GET WHAT THEY NEED. THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT A 7-PAGE APPLICATION AND PET THE DOG ON TOP OF THE DECK BEFORE WE LET HIM IN. OKAY.

THAT'S PROBABLY 3-4 MINUTES. >> AND WE WILL GET THAT.

THE IDEA OF THIS AS PEOPLE COME IN TO BUY A LUNCH OR DINNER OR BREAKFAST. IF THEY NEED SAND CHAIR OR UMBRELLA, RATHER THAN HAVING TO GO BUY ONE.

THERE'S A LOT OF IN AND OUT TOURISM.

THEY CAN RENT IT FOR A DAY, TWO DAYS A WEEK.

AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO US WHEN THEY ARE FINISHED.

>> DO YOU HAVE TO GO INTO THE STORE TO FILL OUT THE 7-PAGE

FORM? >> THERE'S -- THERE'S A SEPARATE COUNTER INSIDE THAT LITTLE BUILDING THERE.

>> OKAY. THE BUILDING THAT HAS -- THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THE APPLICATION IF WE LIKE THEM AT FIRST SIGHT.

WE'LL MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. >> IF THE DOG DOESN'T BITE --

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>> YEAH. WE HAVE ENOUGH PARKING THERE TO SATISFY. THE WAY THIS IS DESIGNED IS TO COME IN PREPARE MEAL. GET YOUR LUNCH, DINNER.

WHATEVER IT WILL BE. AND THEN GO.

IF YOU CHOOSE TO SIT OUTSIDE AND DINE.

YOU CAN DO THAT. THIS IS NOT A SIT DOWN RESTAURANT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CAN I MAKE A COMMENT WHILE I'M HERE?

>> OF COURSE. >> WE TOOK ON THIS PROJECT WITH A DOUBLE LOT ON A COMMERCIAL ASPECT ON THE CORNER THERE.

AND AS YOU GO DOWN COASTAL HIGHWAY YOU'VE GOT OTHER COMMERCIAL LOTS THAT ARE ALL AS YOU KNOW IN THAT AREA IF YOU DON'T KNOW THEY ARE ALL THE SAME SIZE.

WE PUT THE SMALLEST BUILDING ON THAT PROPERTY THAT WE POSSIBLY COULD FIT TO MAKE IT WORK. THIS STORM RETENTION CAME IN AT THE MIDNIGHT HOUR. THIS GOING TO PUT EVERYTHING OVER BUDGET AND SEND THAT WHOLE CAR DOOR OR COMMERCIAL ASPECT SPIRALLING DOWN. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT THE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT TO DEVELOP THAT WHETHER A CONDOMINIUM OR RETAIL CENTER, AND MIXED USE LIKE WE'RE DOING. IT'S MARGINAL.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE AT THE MIDNIGHT HOUR LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN TAKE ONE OR TWO OF THOSE PARKING SPACES AND MAKE IT WHAT I CALL A FRENCH DRAIN WITH WITH THE GRAFFEL.

THE STUDY THEY DID ON THE SOIL IT'S ALL SAND.

THE WATER GOES DOWN QUICK. WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP ALONG THE HIGHWAY BUT YET WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL DIRECTLY BEHIND US DUMPING INTO THE STREET. SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE HERE.

I UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY PUT THIS WHOLE CONCEPT IN THAT WASN'T PART OF IT. AS YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY PUT THE GAS STATION IN, DOWN THE STREET THERE'S A RETENTION POND WHICH EVERYBODY THINKS IS UGLY AND I AGREE.

TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE UNDER GROUND WATER RETENTION, THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IT WILL BE WAY, WAY OVER BUDGET.

WE HAVE TO REALLY TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THAT.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS A LONG TIME.

WE DO GREAT GREAT FOOD. WE LOVE CUSTOMER SERVICE.

WE LOVE JOKING WITH PEOPLE. IT'S GOING TO BE A LOCALS DESTINATION. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> I WAS JUST GOING -- JUST ONE QUESTION.

SEEMS LIKE TO ME THAT THIS WOULD ALSO BE WELL DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ALTERNATE THE BEACH LOOKING TO GRAB A PICNIC TYPE

LUNCH? >> WHICH WOULD NOT REQUIRE CARS OR PARKING. BECAUSE THEY WILL JUST WALK

THERE RIGHT DOWN BEACH COMBER. >> WE INVITE FOLKS IN WITH THEIR PUPPIES. EVERYBODY HAS A DOG.

TO COME AND SIT ON THAT PATIO. WE'RE INVITING THE BIKERS TO COME IN. I OWN PROPERTY IN MAINE.

WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.

ACCEPT IN THE FRONT OF MY PROPERTY IN CASTINE IS EAST COAST BIKE TRAIL WHICH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THIS BUILDING. IT'S 12 FEET WIDE AND BIKERS ALL DAY LONG GOING IN AND OUT. YOU WILL GET A LOT OF BIKE TRAFFIC. I ASKED THE MATTHEW ENGINEERING TO GO AHEAD AND I DON'T SEE IT ON THERE.

A BIKE RACK. THERE'S A SIDEWALK THAT COMES OFF ON THE THAT FRONT CORNER. THERE'S BIKE RACKS RIGHT THERE.

WE'RE PROMOTING THAT. THEN YOU HAVE THE PARK ACROSS THE STREET AS YOU KNOW, FOLKS PARK THERE AND THEN THEY WALK OVER THE BRIDGE IN THE MORNING. SO YOU WILL HAVE THAT GOING ON

TOO. >> RIGHT.

>> IT'S REALLY NEAT. THE ONLY SERVICE WE HAVE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW LIVING OUT THERE QUITE FRANKLY IS PUBLIX.

THEY DO A GREAT JOB. BUT THEY ARE OVERLED O

OVERLOADED. >> THEY ARE OUT OF CHICKEN BY 11:00. AND THE SUBS TAKE A HALF OUR.

>> WOW LOOK AT FOOD TRY AND TRUE OVER 30 YEARS.

WE HAVE HAD GUY IN TWO OF OUR RESTAURANTS FOR CORNED BEEF SANDWICH. IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING TO REALLY TALK ABOUT. NIGHT TIME.

THERE'S ICE CREAM. AND DESSERT.

IN THE MORNING YOU GOT FRESH BAKED MUFFINS AND CINNAMON ROLLS. I MADE A SPECIAL TRIP LAST WEEK TO GO TO WACO, TEXAS IF YOU EVER WATCH FIXER UPPER.

I WENT TO HER BAKERY TO SEE WHAT THESE CUPCAKES WERE ABOUT.

THERE'S NO LIE. WE'LL BE BRINGING SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES AS WELL. A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.

SUNDAYS FOR THE KIDS. THERE'S AN OLD SODA POP COUNTER INSIDE WHERE YOU CAN SIT DOWN AND ORDER BANANA SPLIT OR HAVE A GLASS OF WINE OR BEER WHILE YOU ARE THERE.

SARAH AND HER HAS DONE A GREAT JOB BRINGING BACK THAT 1900'S

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BLOCK BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE. IT'S GORGEOUS.

IT CAME OUT BEAUTIFUL. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> MAKE ONE COMMENT IT'S REALLY -- IT'S REALLY A VERY COOL THING. IT'S REALLY SOMETHING WE NEED.

WALKABLE FROM COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WELCOMING YOU TO THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL.

AND I THINK IT KIND OF FITS WITH THE BILL WITH COVID AS WELL.

THE SOONER WE CAN GET ON IT, WE WILL GET ON IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT SIGNS. CAN WE CHECK AND SEE IF CHUCK WAS ABLE TO CALL IN. I THINK HE WAS GOING TO TRY TO BUT I'M NOT SURE FE -- IF HE ACTUALLY MADE IT THROUGH.

CHUCK, IF YOU ARE THERE. YOU ARE WELCOME TO CHIME IN.

>> CHUCK? >> I THINK NO CHUCK.

>> NO CHUCK. >> OKAY.

I WILL RUN THROUGH THE GENERAL DETAILS HERE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT MONUMENT SIGN THAT WOULD BE IN THE FRONT; FREE STANDING SIGN. AND THEN ONE STORE SIGN WHICH WOULD BE ON THE BUILDING ITSELF. AND THEN A SMALL DIRECTIONAL SIGN THAT WOULD LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT ACCESS THROUGH BEACHCOMBER WAY. SO FOR THE MONUMENT SIGN, THIS IS LOGO THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE OTTER'S OLD COUNTRY STORE.

8-FOOT TALL. THE CODE REGULATES 32 SQUARE FOOT OF ADVERTISING DISPLAY AREA.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE JUST SORT OF LIKE A MINI VERSION OF SHOWING THE DIRECTIONAL POINTING PEOPLE WHERE TO TURN IF THEY WERE BY CAR. WHAT IS ADA? I DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD HAVE AN ADA?

>> ADVERTISING DISPLAY AREA. >> OH, OKAY.

AND IT GOES BY SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE WORDS AND ANY TYPE OF PICTURES THAT BELONGS WITH THE LOGO ITSELF.

IN THIS CASE YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS PORTION THAT SHOW SHOWS THE OTTER AND THE WORDS.

AND THEN THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU A GENERAL IDEA OF PLACEMENT OF WHERE THE WALL SIGN WOULD GO. 24-SQUARE FEET.

THIS MAIN ENTRANCE THAT FACES COASTAL HIGHWAY.

AND I DO HAVE PRETTY GENERIC BUT NOT INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

WE JUST RECEIVED IT. I DO HAVE A OPTION FOR BEACH RENTALS WHICH WOULD NOT BE ADVERTISING SIGNAGE AS FAR AS FOR THE BUSINESS ITSELF. BUT MORE JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT HERE'S WHERE THE BEACH RENTALS ARE.

SO I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT. I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE GIVEN IT TO YOU EARLIER. I CAN PUT IT ON THE AS I MENTIONED THAT WOULDN'T BE TO ADVERTISE A BUSINESS BUT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW HOW DO YOU KNOW WHERE TO GO TO DO THE BEACH RENTALS. THIS WOULD BE FOR THAT SMALLER

BUILDINGS. >> DO THEY HAVE A WALK UP WINDOW. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.

>> THERE'S STEP GOING UP. SEE THE STEPS IN THE MIDDLE.

>> RIGHT ON TOP THERE'S AN ACTUAL DOOR THERE.

COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE -- THE ONE THAT HAS THE TWO MONUMENT

SIGNS ON IT. >> SURE.

WHAT IS -- WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE LARGEST MONUMENT SIGN. I KNOW WE'RE NOT IN THE TOWN CENTER DISTRICT HERE. WE'RE IN THE NORTH COASTAL DISTRICT. WHICH IS A DIFFERENT OVERLAY.

BUT WHAT IS -- BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THAT SIGN LOOKS REALLY BIG.

AND IT'S -- IF IT'S 8 FEET TALL. IS THAT SIZE SIGN ACTUALLY

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ALLOWED? I WAS TRYING TO FIND MY OVERLAY REGULATIONS. AND I COULDN'T.

THAT'S A MAXIMUM ALLOWED SIZE SIGN.

>> THAT'S ALLOWED. ALL RIGHT.

>> >> THAT'S CORRECT.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE OF THAT. >> YOU'VE GOT SOME TALLER SIGNS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE NONCONFORMING USE THAT'S BEEN THERE A WHILE. THIS WOULD DEFINITELY BE ON THE

SMALLER SIZE. >> IS THERE A REASON FOR THE

NAME OTTERS? >> YES.

I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION TO ASK YOU TOO.

>> PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ASK ME THESE QUESTIONS.

THEY DON'T SEEM THAT IMPORTANT OR --

>> NO, NO. OF COURSE.

RIVER OTTER. WHICH WE HAVE HERE THEY ARE FUN.

THEY ARE HAPPY CREATURES. ALL THEY CAN DO THE PLAY AROUND AND SWIM ALL DAY. I HAD A HOUSE AND I WAS DOING SOME WORK IN MY OFFICE WHICH FACED THE POOL.

AND IT WAS AT NIGHT AND HAD THE POOL LIGHT ON.

AND IT KEPT FLASHING. IN MY PERIPHERAL VISION.

I LOOKED OVER AND THERE'S TWO RIVER OTTERS RINSING THEIR EYES OFF IN THE SWIMMING POOL. I COULDN'T GET THEM TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY AFTER THAT. OKAY.

WE ACTUALLY SAVED THAT NAME AND WITH THE NAME WE'VE COME OUT WITH LINE OF CLOTHING CALLED OTTER WEAR.

BUT IT KIND OF PLAYS INTO THE WHOLE ADVERTISING.

WE LIKE TO DO FUNNY ADVERTISING. YOU KNOW ALONG WITH IT.

IT'S JUST A LITTLE HAPPY CREATURE WHETHER A HIM OR HER.

WE HAVEN'T DECIDED YET. >>

>> I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS. NORMALLY, SOMETHING LIKE THIS WE HAVE WORKSHOP. IS THAT WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DISCUSS LATER FOR THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE THEIR INPUT ON IT?

>> FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN NORTH BEACH CAMP RESORT.

THEY WERE GOING TO BE ENLARGING THEIR PROPERTY FOR CAMPING YOU KNOW BY -- THEY HAD PEOPLE COME TO OUR COMMUNITY CENTER, LOOK AT THE DESIGNS AND ALL THAT. NOW I DON'T THINK THAT WILL BE POSSIBLE. WE DO HAVE SOMETHING CALLED CONSTANT CONTACT THAT WE CAN SEND OUT NOTIFICATION, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION FOR PEOPLE TO COME BACK WITH ANY QUESTIONS THEY

MIGHT HAVE. >> DO YOU SOME CLARIFYING

INFORMATION. >> AS OF MID-MARCH RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING. THESE FOLKS WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE MEETING. BUT WE CANCELLED MARCH AND WE CANCELLED APRIL. WE CANCELLED MAY.

WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE AN OUTDOOR MEETING.

BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES ON THE TREAT.

I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS HAD A LOT MORE COMMUNITY INPUT. THIS HAS HAD THE SIGN UP OUTSIDE BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THESE PEOPLE WANT TO GET STARTED. BUILD THIS.

AND BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T KNOW THAT'S A REQUIREMENT. WE'RE IN A PANDEMIC.

I THINK DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE.

>> OH, YEAH. WE TRUST YOU ALL.

>> IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. BUT IT USUALLY -- IF YOU WANT TO GET SOMETHING PAST AND YOU CAN SAY WELL I HAD THREE MEETINGED A

NORTH SHORE ASSOCIATION. >> BEGIN WE HAVE HAD NO MEETING SINCE MARCH 20TH. IT WOULD BE JUST INCREDIBLE

DELAY FOR SOMETHING. >> WE COULD HAVE SPIKE NEXT

WEEK. >> EXACTLY.

>> WE'VE GOT TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE AN INTEREST -- IN DOING SOMETHING IN THESE SMALL SCALES.

KEEP THEM MOVING. TIME THE MONEY.

>> EXACTLY. >> WE'RE OPEN TO CONSTRUCTIVE

WHETHER IT'S CRITICISM OR -- >> KNOW IT'S JUST VETTING.

I SENT COPIES OF THE PACKAGE TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS OF NORTH SHORES IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION AND ACTUALLY THREE OF US ARE ON THAT SAME BOARD. AND I DID GET SOME QUESTIONS

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BACK FROM ONE DIRECTOR AND HE SAID WILL THE INCREASE OF VEHICLES TURNING LEFT BACK UP TRAFFIC ON THE BRIDGE? CARS BEHIND THEM WILL BE ON THE BRIDGE WAITING FOR THEM TO TURN UNLESS THEY CAN GO AROUND. IF THEY GO AROUND, WILL THEY BE

IN THE BIKE PATH? >> THAT QUESTION IS A LITTLE BIT

STRANGE TO ME. >> WE'RE TURNING ON BEACHCOMBER.

AND THERE'S A SLOW LANE AS WE KNOW COMING SOUTHBOUND.

OKAY. I THINK MAYBE THE QUESTION MORE GOING NORTHBOUND. YOU COME OVER THE BRICK AND MAKE THE LEFT-HAND LANE INTO BEACH COMBER.

IS THERE ENOUGH TRAFFIC TO BACK UP?

>> D.O.T. DIDN'T FEEL THERE WOULD BE I.

I BET YOU ONLY WISH THERE ARE THAT MANY PEOPLE TRYING TO GET IN. YOU HAVE TO WATCH OUT WHAT YOU

WISH FOR. >> YOU MAY GET IT.

>> THIS OTHER QUESTION IS MOOT. >> I'VE LIVED ON THAT INTERSECTION FOR 35 YEARS. WHEN THE BRIDGE WAS BUILT THEY FANNED OUT THE CURVE AND GUTTER AND PUT IN THE TURN LANE THERE'S A YELLOW STRIPE WHICH IS OUR SAVIOR COMING FROM THE NORTH.

I MAKE A LEFT INTO BEACH COMER. PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TURN GOING WEST. THEY CAN GET ON THE YELLOW STRIPE, LET THE TRAFFIC KEEP MOVING TO THE NORTH AND I THINK IT'S IT'S ON THE PLANS. IT'S FLAT WITH STRIPES THAT WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO GET OUT OF THE DRIVE LANES.

YOU COME OUT OF THE BP STATION AND GO LEFT.

IT'S THE SAME. >> THERE'S ONE MORE QUESTION WHICH I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT MYSELF.

I WILL READ IT. WILL THERE BE INCREASED FOOT TRAFFIC THAT WILL DELAY TRAFFIC ON THE BRIDGE DUE TO THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHT. [INAUDIBLE]

I DON'T SEE THAT. >> I HAVE TO ASK.

>> I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THAT INTERSECTION ON MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND. OR 4TH OF JULY.

CAN YOU IMAGINE IT BEING ANY WORSE THAN THAT? IF IT IS, WE'LL OPEN A COUPLE MORE OF THESE.

>> THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD.

I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING LIGHTING.

IS ANYONE GOING TO SPEAK TO LIGHTING.

>> SARAH. >> VERY CONSCIOUS HERE.

>> WE'LL COMPLY WITH ANY LIGHTING.

ALL OUR LIGHTS ARE DOWN LIGHTS. I DIDN'T BRING -- [INAUDIBLE] THERE YOU GO.

IT'S REALLY SMALL HERE. YOU CAN SEE IT IT'S THAT OLD STYLE WITH CANOPY OVER IT. THIS IS THE -- ONE OF THE INSIDE LIGHTS. BUT THIS IS OUTSIDE SCONCE.

WE WOULD USE WHAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR TURTLE LIGHTING.

WE WANT TO KEEP THE AMBIANCE MORE AT ONE LEVEL.

IT'S NOT FLASHING BRIGHT. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> BUT A THREE FIREFIGHTER FOOT SIGN WILL NOT BILL ILLUMINATED. I SEE THAT IT WOULD BE -- IT WOULD BE NOT ILLUMINATED AFTER 10:00 P.M. AT NIGHT.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> ONE HALF HOUR AFTER THE BUSINESS CLOSING BUT NO LATER THAN 10:00 P.M.

>> OR IS THAT A STAFF RECOMMENDATION?

>> IT'S A STANDARD COMMENT FOR MEETING THE LIGHTING REQUIREMENT

IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT. >> SO AT 10:00, LIGHTS OUT.

>> AT LEAST ONE HALF HOUR AFTER BUSINESS CLOSING NO LATER THAN 10:00 P.M. [INAUDIBLE]

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I THINK WHEN WE MAKE A MOTION THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE COMPLYING.

IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO TURN THE LIGHT OUT AT 10:00 P.M.

[INAUDIBLE] MADAM CHAIR MAY I INTERRUPT.

I GOT WORD THIS GTV AND THEY CAN'T HEAR UNLESS SOMEONE DOES COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE TO SPEAK.

>> THANK YOU. IT'S THE 10:00 IRON CLAD WHEN THE LIGHTS GO OUT FOR OPERATING HOURS.

I THINK IF IT'S OPERATING HOURS THAT WOULD WORK.

>> YES. JUST AS A CLARIFICATION THERE'S A STANDARD CONDITION THAT TYPICALLY INCLUDED IN THESE FOR ILLUMINATION OF ALL SIGNS. NO LATER THAN 10:00 P.M.

NOW AGAIN THAT'S A STANDARD COMMENT THAT WAS IN BASICALLY EVERY OVERLAY STAFF RECORD THAT I REFERENCED.

I WOULD SAY THAT IF A MOTION IS MADE THAT ALL LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS MEET THE OVERLAY, THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.

WHAT'S WRITTEN THERE. >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. I GUESS OLD TIME LINE QUESTION.

ALTHOUGH WHENEVER YOU ARE TALKING CONSTRUCTION IT'S USUALLY DOESN'T MEAN VERY MUCH. BUT I THINK THAT MR. GENARRO IS A MOVER AND SHAKER. AND BUT DOES HE HAVE AN IDEA AS TO WHEN YOU GET THE OKAY TO GO AHEAD WHEN YOU WILL START?

AND FINISH? >> WE ALL RIGHT STARTED.

WE HAVE ENGINEERING COMPLETED. GROUNDWORK IS COMPLETED.

ARCHITECTURALS ARE COMPLETED. THAT TOOK FOUR MONTHS.

WE'RE FOUR MONTHS FIVE MONTHS INTO THE PROJECT.

ONCE YOU ALL GIVE US THE GO AHEAD, WE WILL JUMP INTO THE NEXT HOOP. AS SOON AS WE GET PERMIT TO START, WE'VE GOT THE CONTRACTORS READY TO GO PRETTY MUCH.

WHAT ARE WE SHOOTING FOR? >> SHOOTING FOR OCTOBER IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL. WE WOULD LIKE TO BE UP AND GOING FOR NIGHTS OF LIGHTS AT THE VERY LEAST.

WE WILL RUSH IT. YEAH.

EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. I'M SORRY I CAN'T GIVE YOU

DEFINITIVE DATE BUT I WILL. >> WILL WE HAVE ANY HURRICANES?

>> I HOPE NOT. >> I HOPE NOT.

BUT AGAIN YOU HAVE THE WEATHER. YOU KNOW GOING INTO IT TO.

WE'RE BEHIND IT 100% TO MOVE IT QUICKLY.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO SIT ON IT. >> I'M THE CORRESPONDENT FOR THE NORTH SHORES NEWS. I WOULD LIKE TO DO A STORY ON IT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR

CONTACT INFORMATION. >> SURE.

>> I WILL GIVE THAT TO YOU BEFORE I LEAVE.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> AT THE RIGHT TIME.

>> RIGHT. >> BUT, YES, ASAP.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. IS THERE GENERAL QUESTION FROM VIVIAN? DO YOU HAVE A GENERAL COMMENT? VIVIAN BROWNING. MILE OFFICE 190VELONA.

I'M THE LISTING AGENT ON THIS PROPERTY.

IT'S LOCAL OWNER AND SHE'S VERY LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THESE FOLKS SHE BELIEVES IN THE PROJECT TOO.

ALSO PRESIDENT OF VELONA MAIN STREET AND I'M 35-YEAR RESIDENT ACROSS THE STREET. I'M ONE OF THE OLDEST PHYSICALLY AND LIVED THERE PRETTY MUCH PREBRIDGE.

COUPLE OF POINTS WHERE I COME FROM WHICH IS SOUTH GEORGIA AN OPEN AREA WITH ROOF ON IT CALLED A PORCH.

IT SEEMS LIKE IN REFERENCE TO THIS THAT A DECK OR PATIO OR -- I THINK HOPEFULLY WILL WIND UP BEING A PORCH.

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WE WANT THIS -- WE SELECTED FLORIDA VENACULER IN THE TOWN CENTER. AND WE FELT LIKE THESE WOULD CARRY UP THE ROAD ANY ITEM THAT WOULD APPLY TO THE NORTH COASTAL CORRIDOR. MY BIGGEST CONCERN ON -- AND I THINK THE DESIGN IS GREAT. YOU CAN'T GET ANY MORE OLD FASHION OR FLORIDA VENACULER. BACK WHEN WE DID THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND WE USED SEASIDE AS A REFERENCE.

BECAUSE THE STATE OF FLORIDA PUT IT IN AS THE STANDARD FOR DEVELOPMENT OF TOWN CENTERS AND WE REDEVELOPED UNDER THE TOWN CENTER CONCEPT. AND I WAS CHAIR OF THE DRV IN THE BEGINNING YEARS. WE MADE A DECISION IN THE TOWN CENTER AND YOU WILL SEE IT ON THE HOLIDAY INN IT'S THE NATURAL. YOU CAN CALL IT SILVER OR NATURAL ROOF. AND THEY'VE DONE THAT IN SEASIDE. THERE'S MULTIMILLION DOLLAR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS THERE.

THEY ALL HAVE THE SILVER ROOF. BECAUSE IT KIND OF -- IT JUST TRACKS WHEN YOU START HAVING COLOR ROOFS.

AND I'VE BEEN IN REAL ESTATE 39 YEARS.

AND THE COLOR MEDAL ROOFS HAVE COME ALONG IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DECADES, I GUESS. AND TO ME THEY ARE PRESENT THE METAL COLOR IS PAST. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US ENFORCE WHETHER IT'S IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN THE COASTAL CORRIDOR. WITH WANTING TO UNIFY AND CONTINUOUS OLD TOWN FEEL I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ROOF BE NATURAL -- I'M ALSO PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHT PERSON.

WHICH MEANS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY DECIDES.

BUT I DO FEEL LIKE A MEDAL ROOF WOULD PLAIN MEDAL ROOF WOULD BE MORE IN KEEPING WITH WHAT OUR SPIRIT OF FLORIDA VENACULER WOULD BE. COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.

THIS 8 # 8-FOOT SIGN. MONUMENT SIGN IN BP HAS MONUMENT. BP WAS PERMITTED BEFORE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WHEN THEY HEARD THE BRIDGE WAS MOVING. THEY PUT THAT STATION IN, IN THE 1990'S. AND I WENT TO LITTLE CHAMP WHICH WAS A LITTLE CHAMP JULIAN JACKSON.

OH, MISS BROWNINGS WE WILL DO A BEACH FILLING STATIONS.

AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE BARREL TOWER ROOFS AND STUCCO AND ALL THAT. WHICH WE HADN'T PICKED THE STYLE THEN. IT WON'T UP LOOKING LIKE THE SUPER PUMPER. WE GOT THE STANDARD ISSUE.

WHAT I'M POINTING OUT HERE IS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO TRY TO ADHERE I THINK TO MEDAL ROOF. THE OTHER THING IS THIS IS THE FIRST FREE STANDING SMALL BUSINESS BUILDING THAT'S BEEN BUILD IN 20 YEARS. WE HAD THE HAMPTON INN.

WE HAD PUBLIX AND RETAIL AND NOW TWO HOTELS.

WE REALLY AS I THINK AS TIME WINDS UP WITH THE BUILD OUT OF TOWN CENTER. WE NEED TO GET SMALL BUSINESS LIKE THIS ON THE SMALL SCALE. THAT WILL KEEP US ANCHORED TO THE SMALL BEACH TOWN FEEL AND NOT JUST THE LARGER BUSINESSES.

AND TALKING TO THE DEGENERO FAMILY AND THEIR SUCCESS, I THINK THAT SIDE OF FLORIDA MORE LIKE THAT THAN THE TOWNS TO SOUTH. IF THEY CAN BRING STYLE PLUS BE BEING HISTORIAN.

THEY KNOW WHAT OLD LOOKS LIKE. I THINK THEY WILL DO A GOOD JOB.

THE SIGN THERE THE -- THE MONUMENT SIGN AT BP WAS THERE BEFORE WE PERMITTED. BUT TO ME, THIS IS AN EXAGGERATED MONUMENT SIGN THAT 8-FOOT TALL.

I DON'T KNOW. YOU ALL DECIDE AND THE OWNER WILL DEFER TO OWNER ON THIS. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE TWO POSTS THAT HOLD UP THE SIGN MIGHT BE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR. IT LOOKS A LITTLE MALL-ISH TO ME. I MADE UP THAT BOARD.

I WILL DEFER TO THE OWNER ON THE SIGN.

BUT THEY DO HAVE THE METAL ROOF ON.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT. LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE. WE HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL WALK TO

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THIS. YOU'VE GOT THE NATURE GREENWAY.

WE HOPEFULLY A TRAIL OR MULTIUSE PATH WILL BE THERE.

AND THERE'S PEOPLE CAN COME FIRST STREET ALL THROUGHOUT SURF SIDE. AND THEY CAN COME FROM CORPUS POINT AND OLD VELA RESIDENTIAL. UNDER THE BRIDGE.

I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A KISSIMMEE PATH WHICH MEANS THAT ANYTIME WHEN I USE TO GO TO DISNEY WORLD PEOPLE FROM UP NORTH WOULD EXPECT SIDEWALKS. IF THEY WERE WALKING FROM THEIR HOTEL TO A RESTAURANT NEAR DISNEY, THEY WOULD JUST GET OUT AND WALK ON THE SIDE OF THE ROADS.

I THINK THERE'S SIDE OF THE ROAD WALKING UNTIL WE GET SIDEWALKS AND TRAILS. BUT I THINK THIS GREAT PROJECT.

I THINK THEY HIT THE RIGHT FEELING THERE WITH THE GENERAL STORE. BECAUSE IT HAS THAT RETAILED RESTAURANT FEEL AND THE TAKE OUT IS RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE VIRUS IDEA. AND OUTSIDE SEATING.

AND SO THEY REALLY HIT THE TREND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

WE HOPE YOU ALL FIND A WAY TO APPROVE THIS TODAY.

SO THEY CAN MOVE ON. >> I THINK YOU EXCEEDED YOUR

THREE MINUTES. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE ROOF COLORING.

I HAPPEN TO LOVE IT AS PRESENTED.

MY QUESTION IS SIGN. ARE THERE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE COLORATION IN THE SIGN? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE SIZE OF IT. YOU DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT. I KNOW -- I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. ABOUT THE WAY THE OTHER SIGNS ARE SUSPENDED. THE COLORATION IN THAT OLD COUNTRY STORE I WOULD FIND MORE MALL-ISH.

ARE THERE COLOR RESTRICTION IN THE SIGNAGE?

>> MY HISTORY WITH OVERLAY WE WERE SPECIFIC IN THE EARLY YEARS. AND IT GOT TO BE KEMBERSOME FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO UNDERSTAND.

AND IN THE EARLY DAYS WE HAD WHERE YOU XEROX A SET OF COLOR AND DEPENDING ON THE INK WHAT COLOR YOU SAW THEN WE TIED IT TO SHERWIN WILLIAMS NUMBER COLORS. I DON'T REALLY RECALL ANYTHING THAT IF YOU KIND OF MATCH WHAT'S ON THE BUILDING NOW WE LEAVE IT -- IF THEY ARE THERESA IS THE AUTHORITY ON THIS.

IF YOU ARE WITHIN A COLOR RANGE ICE IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE COUNTY. WE DON'T WANT TO HELD ANYONE UP TO RED THE RED OR GREEN IS GREEN.

I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO HAVE TO REDO SOMETHING.

THE NEIGHBORS BARELY KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING.

YOU PUT THAT SIGN UP IT WILL BE LIKE THE PIZZA HUT PINK BUILDING. I PREFER NOT TO RELIVE THE

EXPERIENCES I'VE HAD. >> IF I CAN INTERJECT MADAM CHAIR. THE RULES ON IT ARE FAIRLY SUBJECTIVE. BUT THE CODE READS COLORS AND MATERIAL OF SIGN SHALL BE SIMILAR TO COMPATIBLE WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES AND MATERIALS OF THE RELATED

COMMERCIAL BUILDING. >> I THINK IT'S A UNIQUE SIGN.

I THINK IT ADDS A UNIQUE QUALITY.

AND IT'S KIND OF CUTE. WITH THE OTTER AND THE ICE CREAM

IN ONE HAND. >> FOOD, DRINK AND A SPLASH OF

FUN. >> I LIKE THAT.

>> THANK YOU. I GUESS WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE OTTERS ITSELF. THE FIRST RUN -- PROBABLY MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. THE FIRST RUN AT THIS WAS THAT I WANTED IT TO BE RED, WHITE AND BLUE.

WE HAVE GRAPHIC ARTIST ON OUR PAYROLL.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT RED OTTER. LIGHT GREEN OTTER.

LIME OTTER. YELLOW OTTER.

AND OVER THE YEARS WE HAD A FEW RESTAURANT.

AND WE FOUND THAT RED OR YELLOW CAPTURED THE ATTENTION FROM THE DISTANCE. AND THE WAY THAT SIGN WAS GOING TO SIT SORT OF BACK OFF THE ROAD, WE FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO GRAB SOMEONE'S EYE QUICKLY. DAY SAID WHY NOT MIX THE COLORS TOGETHER? BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT?

>> I LIKE IT. >> THAT'S HOW IT ENDED UP THAT WAY. WHEN WE DO OUR OTTER WEAR AND THE SHIRT. THE LOGO WILL BE ALL DIFFERENT

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COLORS. AND THE OTTER WE WANTED -- LET'S WE WANTED HER SHE'S A HER. WE WANT HAD ERR TO BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU THERE'S FOOD AND DESSERT.

THAT'S ADORABLE. >> THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO.

SPLASH OF FUN, OF COURSE THE BEACH RENTALS.

UNLESS THERE'S OTHER FUN OTHER THAN THAT.

I HOPE SO. >> THAT'S NOT CARVED IN STONE.

I THINK THAT'S 5-V TO MATCH THE ROOF.

THE BACK OF IT. >> GOT YOU.

>> OKAY. I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE WAS RULE ON THE COLORS. THANK YOU.

>> I PERSONALLY LIKE THE GREEN ROOF.

BECAUSE IT MAKES IT LOOK MORE RESIDENTIAL.

AND OLD-TIMY. I DON'T KNOW -- DO YOUR ORDER A GREEN ROOF OR DO YOU HAVE TO PAINT IT?

>> THEY COME PRETREATED. THERE'S A RANGE OF COLORS.

WE'RE PICKING -- WE'RE SELECTING THE DARKEST GREEN.

ALMOST BLACK. >> IT COULD HELP TO PROTECT IT

FROM RUST OR WHATEVER. >> THEY ARE.

THEY ARE GALVANIZED SO THEY DON'T RUST AND THEY ARE -- THAT ARE PROTECTED FROM THE SALT, FROM CORROSION AND SALTWATER.

THERE'S A RANGE OF COLORS. THAT WAS OUR ONE OF THE CRACKER STYLE THEME VERSES COASTAL MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE UNIQUE.

WE'RE OPEN TO DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

WE APPRECIATE MISS BROWNINGS' COMMENTS.

BUT THAT WAS THE SCHEME THAT WE HAD --

>> MAYBE A LIGHTER COLOR GREEN LIKE A FOREST GREEN OR -- I DON'T KNOW. I THINK OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE STAY WITH THE DARK GREEN WITH THE DARK WINDOW OR WE JUST COMPLETELY GO WITH SILVER. THOSE ARE TWO OPTIONS.

NOT SORT OF IN BETWEEN. >> GENE MILLER.

SUBJECTIVELY THE NICE THING ABOUT THE CHARLESTON GREEN THE CONTRAST BETWEEN THE ROOF AND THE BUILDING.

OTHER IT COULD JUST SORT OF DISAPPEAR.

>> RIGHT. IF YOU HAVE LIGHTER COLOR SILVER IT'S NOT AS STUCCO BUILDING. WHICH A LOT MORE COASTAL ARCHITECTURAL IS. IT'S LETTING THE WINDOW SASHS POP. IT'S LETTING THE ROOF POP AND LETTING THE BUILDING BE A LITTLE BIT QUIETER.

WE LIKED THAT COLOR COMBINATION. AND IT'S NOT ALSO NEXT TO OTHER BUILDINGS. IT IS -- I REALIZE IT'S IN THAT ROW. BUT IT'S NOT MORE URBAN LIKE THE VELANO TOWN CENTER WHERE BUILDINGS ARE MORE NEXT TO EACH OTHER. [INAUDIBLE] THIS IS ACTUALLY SPECIFICALLY A COOL ROOF WHICH WE SELECTED THIS COLOR. CERTAIN MEDALS COME IN A COOL ROOF OPTION WHICH WE WOULD OF COURSE WANT TO HAVE HERE.

ALUMINUM, SILVER CALLER IS -- COLOR IS A COOL ROOF

COLOR. >> ARE YOU USING SOLAR PANELS AT

ALL? >> NO.

I DON'T THINK SO. DO WE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE? >> I DON'T THINK SO.

AS LONG AS THE LIGHTING AND EVERYTHING IS COMPLIANT.

I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT OLD COUNTRY STORE IS APPROVED.

>> I SECOND THE MOTION. >> ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE. ANYBODY OPPOSED? YOU'RE GOOD. MOTION APPROVED.

>> WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT. AND CAN I GET THE CONTACT

INFORMATION FROM VIVIAN FOR YOU. >> THANK YOU.

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>> WE DO HAVE A WORKSHOP ITEM. >> WE HAVE WORKSHOP ITEM SENT IN BY MISS BARRY JOE. AND I'M GOING TO READ HER LETTER ON HER BEHALF. GREETING TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE AND INTERESTED GUEST. AS COURTESY MY BUSINESS PARTNER DR. ANNA MCFADDEN AND I WANT TO REPORT FINAL ADDITION TO VELANO ROAD STREAM PROJECT PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE DRB AND

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APPROPRIATE COUNTY OFFICIALS. AS YOU KNOW WE ARE APPROVED AS TEMPORARY USE PROJECT FOR 1-3 AIR STREAMS TO BE LOCATED ON .

AIR STREAM ONE HOUSES SHARE OFFICE SPACES INCLUDING THE WELCOME WINDOW, THIS PART OF THE PROJECT OPENED LATE NOVEMBER.

AIR STREAM 2 WHICH WE PRESENTED TO THIS BOARD AS AN UPDATED ON PROGRESS HOUSES THE TIME CAPSULE A VINTAGE ITEM GIFT SHOP OWNED AND OPERATED BY MICHELLE POWERS. OFFICIAL OPENING HAS BEEN DELAYED. WE WANT TO SHARE THE LATEST INFORMATION ON THE FINAL AND THIRD ADDITION TO VELANO AIR STREAM ROW. MARY TATE'S BOUTIQUE OR TRENDING CLOTHING ACCESSORIES AND OTHER PERSONAL FAST ITEM.

THE THIRD AIR STREAM COMPLETES THE ORIGINAL PLAN AS APPROVED BY THE BOARD. MARY TATE'S OWNED AND OPERATED BY MARY KATE RANDOPH. LIKE AIR STREAM ONE AND TWO THE THIRD AIR STREAM IS VINTAGE RESTORED AND RETROFITTED AS RETAIL OUTLET CONFIRMING TO CONCEPT FOR THE AIR STREAM ROW.

BOTH BUSINESS WOMEN ARE LOCAL RESIDENTS SELECTED BY US.

THESE BUSINESSES WERE CHOSEN BECAUSED ON THE VELANO REQUIREMENTS. ALSO IMPORTANT IN THIS SELECTION WAS THE EVIDENCE OF COMMUNITY SPIRIT AND INTEREST IN VELANO BEACH. THEY HAVE BOTH PARTICIPATED IN MANY COMMUNITY ACTIVITY PROJECT INDICATE THEY WOULD BE SOLID ADDITION TO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.

BOTH ARE ACTIVE BUSINESS MEMBER OF VILANO MAIN STREET.

COVID-19 HAS DELAYED THE PLANS. BUT WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE A SOFT OPENING LATER IN JUB. CONFIRMING TO CDC REQUIREMENT.

THIS EVENT WILL COINCIDE WITH REGULAR MONTHLY PUBLIC MEETING OF VILANO BEACH MAIN STREET. IDEALLY BOTH BUSINESSES WILL BE IN FULL SWING BY THE JULY 4TH HOLIDAY PERIOD.

>> THIS YEAR? >> ANNA AND I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ORIGINAL APPROVAL AND ONGOING SUPPORT.

THANK YOU TOO FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR COURTESY UPDATE TODAY. WE WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO REPORT TO YOUR NEIGHBORS FRIENDS AND ASSOCIATES THAT VILANO AIR STREAM ROAD IS FINALLY ALMOST OPERATIONAL.

THANK YOU. MARY JOE PRICE.

>> THERE'S NOW A THIRD AIR STREAM.

>> AND THE SECOND ONE WOULD HAVE BEEN OPEN IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE FACT THAT COVID. NOW WE HAVE ONE THAT IS LIKE ANTIQUE AND GIFTABLES ONE IS VILANO MAIN STREET.

THIS THIRD ONE IS APPAREL AND ACCESSORY AIR STREAM.

>> VIVIAN BROWNING. I'M TENANT IN THE FIRST AIR STREAM. WE SERVICE THE COMMUNITY.

THEY'VE BEEN WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES FOR MONTHS TO LOCATE THE OTHER TWO TENANTS. AND THEIR FRIEND AND WE ALL KNOW MICHELLE POWERS AND SHE'S HELPED US IN THE TOWN CENTER.

AND SHE OWNS THE COTTAGE ON THE BEACHCOMBER WAY.

>> IF NEW MAIN STREET OF VILANO. WHAT THEY ARE SAYING TO YOU ALL TODAY IS THIS IS A COURTESY NOTICE THAT THE OTHER FULFILLMENT OF THE PERMITS THEY HAVE WILL BE HOPEFULLY FINISHED.

WE HOPE TO HAVE AN OUTDOOR MAIN STREET MEETING THAT LAST WEEK IN JUNE. AND THAT WOULD BE A SOFT OPENING AND THEN JULY 4TH THEY WOULD BE OPEN.

THEY WOULD GET THEIR SIGNAGE. THEY GOT A PERMIT FROM THE CODE ENFORCEMENT TO HAVE A BANNER UP. WE HOPE YOU ALL COME AND VISIT AND SUPPORT IT. BUT THIS IS MAINLY A COURTESY TO THE DRV SINCE THIS WAS PERMITTED ALL AT ONE TIME WITH MATTHEWS DESIGN ORIGINALLY. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN TRY TO ANSWER. I'VE BEEN BACK IN TOUCH.

>> YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON I KNOW OF THAT DOES YOUR NEWSPAPER INTERVIEW FROM THE PODIUM. ANY WAY.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? >> IS NUMBER 2 WAS IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. IS THAT ON THE FRONT OF THE

PROPERTY? >> THEY ARE TRYING THIS WEEKEND.

WE'RE ALL SUBJECT TO RAIN. THEY ARE SAYING WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS IT WILL BE BROUGHT UP AND PLACED WHERE THE COUNTY SAID

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PUT IT AND HOOK UPS ARE THERE. AND IT'S CERTAIN PLACE AND THEN THE MARY KATE THE SMALLER ONE WILL COME IN TOO.

THE SMALLER ONE HAS BEEN THERE ON THE CORNER.

IT'S BEEN A SHOP DOWNTOWN. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT AN AIR STREAM CAN DO. IT CAN MOVE AROUND.

IT'S COMING TO BE OVEN VILANO ROAD.

WE NEED THE GENERAL STORE FOR SMALL FOOD PLACES AND WE NEED RETAIL. WE ARE TRYING TO BUILDUP THE SMALLER BUSINESSES WHILE THE -- IF YOU LOOKED AT THE HYATT RECENTLY, IT'S GETTING TO BE BIG BUILDING WITH A FLOORING PUT IN. WE HOPE TO BRING THAT TOGETHER.

SUCCESSFUL SMALL BUSINESS AND THE OPENING OF THESE OTHER LARGER BUILDINGS. AND NEXT WEEK IS THE EXPANSION OF THE TOWN CENTER. SO WE REALLY -- I FEEL LIKE OUR COMMUNITY IS STAYED ON TRACK WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN A VERY UNUSUAL AND TRAGIC TIME FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE PANDEMIC.

WE FEEL THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU. >> SO THE THIRD ONE -- IS THERE -- IS THE UTILITIES THERE AND PERMITTED FOR THE THIRD ONE? ALL HOOKUPS WERE PERMITTED. YOU CAN HAVE THREE.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE THESE REQUIREMENTS AND IT'S THERE.

>> WE ACTUALLY HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT.

>> IT'S JUST A MATTER OF IS THE THIRD OF THE THREE.

>> I WILL SAY YOU ARE TOUGH ON EVERYBODY.

BUT WE -- ALSO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS -- THIS A TEMPORARY USE. BECAUSE YOU CAN'T -- LIKE THEM.

THEY'VE BEEN WORKING FOR MONTHS. THE GENERAL STORE IT WILL TAKE THEM MONTHS TO GET BUILT. BUT AN AIR STREAM CAN COME IN AND BE OPEN FOR BUSINESS AND HAVE CUSTOMERS LOCAL AND TOURIST COMING IN AND OUT. AND I THINK WITH THE EXPANSION OF THE DECK ON BEACHES AND GETTING THEM REOPENED, AND TRYING TO GET SOME MORE WATER TAXIS BACK TO THE BAY FRONT.

I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO COME THROUGH THIS SUMMER AND FALL, WINTER AND THEN NEXT SPRING HOPEFULLY THE HYATT WILL OPEN BEFORE SUMMER AND THEN WE'LL BE KIND OF HAVE A LOT GOING ON IN

THE TOWN CENTER. >> THANK YOU.

THANKS, VIVIAN. >> THERE ARE NO MORE COMMENTS.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

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