May 19, 2020 Board of County Commissioners

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I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. MAY 19, 2020. GOOD MORNING TO ALL.

THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS BEING CONDUCTED CONSISTENT WITH THE GOVERNOR DESANTIS'S EXECUTIVE ORDER NUMBER 20- 69 SUSPENDING THE REQUIREMENT TO A PHYSICAL QUORUM AND PROVIDING FOR VIRTUAL QUORUM DUE TO THE CURRENT STATE OF EMERGENCY IN THE STATE RESULTING FROM THE SPREAD OF THE NOVEL CORONAVIRUS, COVID-19. IN ORDER TO FURTHER MITIGATE THE TRANSMISSION OF THE CORONAVIRUS AND REDUCE RISK OF COVID-19 ILLNESS, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAS ADOPTED PROCEDURES TO CONDUCT MEETINGS USING REMOTE PERCENT FOR PARTICIPATION THROUGH EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION NUMBER 2020-3 SO THAT THE PUBLIC AS A MEANS TO COMMENT DURING THE MEETING WITHOUT PHYSICALLY ATTENDING. ALONG WITH PRIOR COMMUNICATIONS INCLUDING EMAIL, THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT BY TELEPHONE WHILE WATCHING THE MEETING VIA GTV OR BY STREAMING POSTED ON THE COUNTIES WEBSITE. THE WEBSITE ALSO PROVIDES A TELEPHONE NUMBER TO USE TO CALL INTO THE MEETING. EVEN IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CANNOT PROVIDE COMMENT, PARTICIPANTS ARE ADVISED PEOPLE MAY BE LISTENING WHO DO NOT PROVIDE COMMENT AND THOSE PERSONS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES.

THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED. FOR THOSE OF YOU CALLING TO COMMENT, IF YOU RECEIVE A BUSY SIGNAL, PLEASE CALL BACK. CONTINUE TO WATCH GTV ON YOUR COMMENTING BECAUSE THE THREE-MINUTE TIMER WILL BE VISIBLE TO YOU. PLEASE MUTE YOUR PHONE WHILE YOU'RE WAITING TO COMMENT. THERE MAY BE A 5 TO 9 SECOND DELAY IN THE VISUAL PRESENTATIONS AND PERHAPS UP TO 32ND DELAY IN THE VERBAL RESPONSE TIMES.

THE MATERIALS FOR THIS MEETING ARE ON OUR COUNTY WEBSITE AND THERE ARE AGENDAS AND MINUTES.

ONCE YOU FIND THE MEETING AGENDA YOU CAN CLICK ON THE AGENDA ITEM TO ACCESS ALL OF THE SUPPORTING MATERIAL. TODAY WILL BE CONDUCTING A ROLL CALL VOTE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER THAT IS CALLED IN AND IS REMOTE TODAY. WITH THAT BEING SAID I WOULD NOT ASK THE CLERK TO PLEASE CALL THE WORLD.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW, WE WILL HAVE THE INVOCATION AS PASTOR EARL GLEASON FROM ANCHOR FAITH. GOOD MORNING.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY?IRST OF ALL, I WANT TO READ A SCRIPTURE THAT I THINK IS APPLICABLE FOR GOD HAS NOT GIVEN US THE SPIRIT OF FEAR BUT OF POWER, LOVE, AND OF SOUND MIND.

LET'S PRAY. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, MAY YOUR NAME BE HONORED IN MAY YOUR KINGDOM COME AND MAY YOUR WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.

AS WE PLACE OURSELVES IN REMEMBRANCE THIS MORNING THAT THERE IS NO AUTHORITY EXCEPT FROM GOD AND THOSE WHICH EXIST ARE ESTABLISHED BY GOD FOR YOU ARE THE MOST HIGH AND RULER OVER THE REALM OF MANKIND SINCE YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED AUTHORITY, YOU ALSO ANOINT AND EQUIP THOSE PLACED IN AUTHORITY. I PRAY FOR YOUR WISDOM TO BE IMPARTED TO THESE MEN BEFORE ME WHO HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO THE SEAT OF AUTHORITY. AND THAT YOU WOULD GIVE WISDOM TO WISEMEN AND KNOWLEDGE TO MEN OF UNDERSTANDING. WITH THIS IN MIND AND PRAY THESE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WILL TRUST IN YOU WITH ALL THEIR HEARTS AND WOULD NOT LEAN ON THEIR OWN UNDERSTANDING NOR BE WISE IN THEIR OWN EYES. FOR THERE IS A WAY THAT SEEMS RIGHT TO A MAN, BUT ITS END IS THE WAY TO DEATH. GIVE THEM KNOWLEDGE TO DISCERN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH AND THE SPIRIT OF ERROR.

MANY SEEK YOUR WILL AND NOT THE WILL OF ANOTHER FORM REAL SELFISH AMBITION EXISTS, THERE IS DISORDER AND EVERY EVIL THING. I PRAY THAT THE THINGS THEY ENCOUNTER TODAY AND IN THE FUTURE, THEY WILL ACKNOWLEDGE YOU AND HE WILL DIRECT THEIR DECISIONS. I PRAY FOR BLESSINGS AND PROTECTIONS AND STRENGTH THAT WOULD SURROUND THESE COMMISSIONERS, THEIR STAFFS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND I PRAY IN

THE NAME OF JESUS, AMEN.>> WOULD YOU JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY

AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU MAY BE SEATED. THIS MORNING WE HAVE THREE PROCLAMATIONS THAT ARE COMING

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BEFORE THE BOARD WE WILL BEGIN WITH COMMISSIONER JOHNS. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS: THANK YOU, MR. JARED. AS A FELLOW ENGINEER, IT'S A PLEASURE TO PROVIDE THE PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS RECOGNIZING NATIONAL PUBLIC

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BUT IF ANY OF THOSE THINGS ARE MISSING, PUBLIC WORKS GETS A CALL.

SO IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THEM TO DO SO MUCH FOR US BEHIND THE SCENES WITHOUT ANY EXPECTATIONS OF RECOGNITION, BUT IS WELL-DESERVED.

THIS PROCLAMATION STAYS WHEREAS, THE MANY PUBLIC WORKS SERVICES PROVIDED IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR CITIZENS'S EVERYDAY LIVES AND WHERE IS THE SUPPORT OF THE UNDERSTANDING AND INFORMED CITIZENRY IS VITAL TO THE OPERATION OF PUBLIC WORKS SYSTEM AND PROGRAMS WHICH INCLUDES DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF THE COUNTIES ROADWAYS, SYSTEMS, UTILITIES, SOLID WASTE COLLECTION AND FLEET MANAGEMENT AND WHEREAS THE HEALTH AND SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THIS COMMUNITY GREATLY DEPENDS ON THESE FACILITIES AND SERVICES, AND WHEREAS THE QUALITY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THESE FACILITIES ARE THE PLANNING, DESIGN AND STRUCTURE THREE LIFETIME OF MAINTENANCE IS VITALLY DEPENDENT ON THE EFFORTS AND SKILL OF THE PUBLIC WORKS OFFICIALS AND WHEREAS THE EFFICIENCY OF THE QUALIFIED AND DEDICATED PERSONNEL TO STAFF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND LET ME EMPHASIZE THAT. THEY ARE TRULY DEDICATED AND QUALIFIED.

IT IS MATERIALLY INFLUENCED BY THE PEOPLE'S ATTITUDE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE WORK THEY PERFORM AND WHEREAS THIS YEAR'S THEME THE RHYTHM OF PUBLIC WORKS CHALLENGES CITIZENS TO THINK COMMUNITIES ARE IN SYMPHONY OF ESSENTIAL SERVICES WORKING IN CONCERT TO CREATE A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE IN SIGNIFIES THAT EVERY COMMUNITY HAS A RHYTHM, A HEARTBEAT THAT REFLECTS ITS ESSENCE AND THE TEMPO OF LIFE. NOW THEREFORE THE PROCLAIM OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY THAT MAY 17 THROUGH THE 23RD, 2020 BE DESIGNATED AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

CALLING UPON ALL CITIZENS AND CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS TO ACQUAINT THEMSELVES WITH THE ISSUES INVOLVED IN ACCOMPANYING OUR COUNTIES PUBLIC WORKS AND TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO HIS OFFICIALS MAKE EVERY DAY TO OUR HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA THIS 19TH DAY OF MAY 2020 AS ATTESTED BRENDA PATTY, CLERK OF COURT, ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF

COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, JARED JEB SMITH. >> THANK YOU.

LIVING ALONG TO THE SECOND PROCLAMATION.OMMISSIONER WALDRON?

>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, WE ARE TRULY BLESSED BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT MAKE US A BETTER COUNTY BY GIVING TO THE NEEDY, ANIMAL SHELTERS, AND OTHER. AND TODAY, WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE GIVING DAYS SO THIS IS A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA. WHEREAS ST. AUGUSTINE GIVING DAY WAS CREATED TO INSPIRE ST.

JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO TAKE AND COLLECTIVE ACTION TO IMPROVE THEIR COMMUNITY GIVEBACK AND SMARTER WAYS TO CHARITIES AND CAUSES THAT BELIEVE IN AND HELP CREATE A BETTER WORLD AND WHEREAS ST. AUGUSTINE GIVING DAY ENCOURAGES GENEROSITY TO MORE THAN 50 LOCAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. MILITARY VETERANS, SERVICES, ADVOCACY GROUPS AND ANIMAL SHELTERS AND WHEREAS ST. AUGUSTINE GIVING DAY AS A CATALYST TO RAISE AWARENESS AND INSPIRE AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE TO ENRICH OUR COMMUNITY SPIRIT OF GIVING AND DOING IT LOCALLY AND WHEREAS RESIDENTS AND FAMILY BUSINESSES TO SUPPORT ST. JOHNS COUNTY NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS ON MAY 6, 2020 IN CELEBRATION OF GIVING DAY. HELP RAISE MORE THAN $194,000 AND THAT'S IMPRESSIVE DURING THIS CRYING TIMES. THEREFORE THE PROCLAIM OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA THAT MAY 6, 2020 RECOGNIZED TO PROMOTE LOCAL DONATIONS

>> THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE ALONG TO THE THIRD PROCLAMATION.

IF I MAY, I'M GOING TO TAKE A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE BECAUSE IT'S NURSES WEEK.

I WANT TO SHOW MY FAVORITE NURSE. MY FAVORITE NURSE HAPPENS TO BE IN THE CENTER OF THIS PICTURE AND THAT IS MY MOTHER AS SHE FINISHED BASIC TRAINING AND BECAME A LIEUTENANT FOR THREE YEARS DURING WORLD WAR II. AND SHE'S MY HERO.

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NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT MAY 2020 BE DESIGNATED AS NATIONAL NURSES MONTH HONORING ALL NURSES FOR THEIR UNPARALLEL IMPACT ON HEALTH AND HEALTH CARE ESPECIALLY DURING TIMES OF NATIONAL CRISIS. PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA THIS 19TH DAY OF SIGNED JEB SMITH, CHAIRMAN OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MOTION COMMISSIONER WALDRON. A DISCUSSION SAYING WE WILL PROCEED WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE.

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>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS WILL HAVE THEIR OWN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. ANY PERSON WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD SHOULD COME TO THE PODIUM. WE HAVE TWO OF THEM. OR CALL IN AND STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS. EACH PERSON WILL BE PROVIDED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND SHALL COMPLY WITH THE BOARD POSITIVE ROLE OF DECORUM. COMMENTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER MAY NOT INCLUDE THE DEMAND FOR AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD. THE PERSON ADDRESSED THE BOARD WITH PERSONAL AND PERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS AND WITH BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR. MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ANY DISRUPTIVE DEMONSTRATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS.

FINALLY, I WOULD ASK THAT ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS ANY OVERHEAD MATERIAL PLEASE PRESENT THAT MTERIAL TO THE STAFF OF THE CLERK OF COURTS TO BE ENTERED IN THE PUBLIC RECORD. THANK YOU. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? STEPHEN SHERRY BADGER, 2772 S. COLLINS AVENUE. I GAVE YOU ALL SOME THINGS TO THINK ABOUT AND NOW I AM HERE TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT REGARDLESS IF YOU COME UP WITH 45 FEET, 60 FEET OR 58 FEET. IN THE LAST STEP THAT COMMISSIONER BLOCKER ASKED TO BE LET DOWN. BUT THERE'S ONE THING THAT STAFF OR YOU HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A 20 FOOT BUFFER.

HERE IS THE ROAD. ASH PROPERTIES HAS NO 20 FOOT BUFFERS, NO WAIVER FOR 20 FOOT BUFFERS. IF THE COUNTY HAS 58 FEET, THEY DON'T HAVE A BUFFER.

IF THE COUNTY HAS 60 FEET, IT COMES TO ABOUT RIGHT HERE. AND IF THEY HAVE 45 FEET, THAT WOULD PUT THEM WHERE THEY ARE. IF ANYBODY YOU HAVE GOTTEN INFORMATION FROM ANY OF YOUR STAFF ON THIS AND THEY HAVE TOLD YOU DISCREPANCIES IN THIS, YOU NEED TO LOOK FURTHER.

WHERE ARE THE WAIVERS FOR THE 20 FOOT BUFFER THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE IF THE COUNTY

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SO THEREFORE, YOUR STAFF LET SOMEBODY MOVE IN WETLANDS, REFUSED TO CLEAN THE DITCHES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT THEM TO SUE THEM. THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THIS TOO, GENTLEMEN. THIS ALL GOES DOWN TO STATE ROUTE 16.

AND I HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE YOU AGAIN. HERE IS THE DITCH ÃTHE CHURCH HAS GIVEN THEM EASEMENT TO CLEAN THAT WHOLE SIDE OF THE DITCH.

THIS IS GOING TOWARDS SOUTH COLLINS. AT THE SOUTH END OF IT.

THIS DITCH RIGHT HERE THE COUNTY SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT TO CLEAN BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT MAN SUING THEM. YOU DO NEED TO BE LOOKING INTO THAT.

BUT WITH THIS RIGHT HERE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. NOTE 20 FOOT BUFFER.

THEY GOT FORGIVENESS FOR THEIR 20 FOOT BUFFER THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE NATURALLY LANDSCAPED IN 2009. THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU AND HAVE A GREAT

DAY. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE AUDITORIUM WE WILL NOW TURN TO THE PHONES.

GOOD MORNING. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD

>> GOOD MORNING. TOM REYNOLDS, 50 BRIGANTINE CT. BEAUTIFUL ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH.

32080.HANK YOU FOR TAKING ON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT. TODAY I WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION DOWN TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY PIER IN FRONT OF EMBASSY SUITES HOTEL.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN DOWN THERE LATELY. HOWEVER, THAT BEACH IS REALLY WASHING AWAY QUICK. ONE GOOD STORM THE WATER IS GOING TO BE ON THE ROCKS.

AND WHICH ISN'T THE WORST THING. HOWEVER, WHAT THAT CREATES IS A LOT MORE CROWDED SITUATIONS IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY PIER AREA. AND I HOPE THAT THE BEACH COMES BACK BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN GOING DOWN TO THAT AREA FOR EIGHT YEARS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT SAND WASHING AWAY ON THAT BEACH IS TWO YEARS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.

AND WHEN THE TIDE IS UP, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S FLASHING AND COMING. I WANT YOU TO KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WILL BE ANY FEDERAL DOLLARS WHATSOEVER TO GET THAT BEECH TREE NOURISHED AHEAD OF TIME. SECOND ALSO IF YOU KEEP IN MIND THE BEACH BLAST OF ST.

AUGUSTINE BEACHFRONT, I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU NOTIFY THEM IT WOULD BE A GOOD YEAR TO CANCEL.

THE FIREWORKS ON THE BRIDGE THAT THE OLD CITY IS GOING TO HAVE THAT THEY CONTEMPLATE NOW ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE ALREADY CALLED IT OFF, NOW THEY WANT TO GO BACK AND RE-EXAMINE.

WE DON'T NEED THOSE KINDS OF CROWDS HERE AT THE BEACH. WE NEED PEOPLE IN RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS THAT'S CALLED MONEY. WE DON'T NEED A BUNCH OF LOW ROLLERS ON THE BRIDGE OR GATHERING HERE AT THE PIER AND SPREADING GERMS AND THAT INCITES PEOPLE TO COME AND THAT HAVE NO MONEY. SCOPE GRAB A 12 PACK AND GO DOWN TO THE PIER AND GET DRUNK AND GO HOME. IT'S TIME TO END ALCOHOL AT THE PIER AND IT'S TIME TO THINK OF OTHERS AND IT'S TIME TO GET STRAIGHT. WE HAVE 260,000 PEOPLE AND YOU ASK ANYBODY THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COME TO THAT BEACH.

WE DON'T NEED IT. THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WILL BE ON THE BRIDGE ALLIANCE AND ALL DOWN THERE. WAY AND WITH THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE AND WAY AND WITH THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH. AND ONCE AGAIN, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR SHOULD BE PWEIGHING IN AS WELL. IT IS ALREADY KNOWN PHYSICAL SOCIAL DISTANCING MUST CONTINUE FOR A MINIMUM OF 18 MONTHS. I TELL YOU SOMETHING, COMMISSIONERS, I WISH YOU WOULD CANCEL EVERYTHING THROUGH JUNE ONE OF 2022. THAT WOULD REALLY SAY THAT WE CANNOT HAVE IN THIS AREA ÃWE CANNOT GET THIS VIRUS OVER HERE.

WE HAVE BEEN REALLY LUCKY SO FAR. I CAN HONESTLY TELL YOU I DO NOT PERSONALLY KNOW ANYBODY

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ANYWAY, I WILL WRAP THAT UP TODAY. PLEASE DON'T JUST FOLLOW THE LEADER. BE THE LEADERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH: THANK YOU, MR. REYNOLDS. GOOD MORNING.

IF WE COULD GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: GOOD MORNING. THIS IS ED SLAVEN. CLEANUP STATE AUGUSTINE.

FIRST ON THE ITEM THAT I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT AT THE EARLIER MEETING, THE NAME OF THE CONTACT IS RANDY REEVES AND HE'S THE UNDER SECRETARY OF VETERANS AFFAIRS AND I TALKED TO CONGRESSMAN WOLF'S CHIEF OF STAFF YESTERDAY AND I THINK WE CAN TURN THIS AROUND AND GET IT TO WHERE THE SCOUTS CAN FLAG SOME OF THE GRAVES. I WANTED TO THANK SHERRY BADGER AND TOM REYNOLDS WERE THERE ACTIVISM AND I AGREE WITH WHAT THEY JUST SAID.

MS. BADGER, BACK IN 2005, 2006 TIMEFRAME, WHEN THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE DUMPED A LANDFILL IN A LAKE, SHE WAS ONE OF THE WHISTLEBLOWERS, AND SHE WAS THERE WITH US FOR MEETING AFTER MEETING AFTER MEETING UNTIL IT WAS FINALLY CLEANED UP, AND I WANT TO SALUTE HER AND TOM.

ALSO, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE TRADITIONAL COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COSMIC BUDGET HEARINGS. I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE MASTER CALENDAR WHEN I JUST LOOKED AT MAYBE IT'S BEEN RESCHEDULED, BUT WHAT WE NEED IS TO HAVE THEM TELEVISED.

MR. WANCHICK ALWAYS REFUSED TO TELEVISE IT. TWO AND A HALF DAYS OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT COSMIC BUDGET. EXCEPT HE NEVER INVITED THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, THE SHERIFF, THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS, THE CLERK OF COURTS, THE TAX COLLECTOR, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER. THEY NEED TO BE THERE TO DEFEND THEIR BUDGETS AS WELL. AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF SHIRA DAVID SHORE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS TO ASK ABOUT THE NATURE STRUCTURE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR OFFICES. BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE ON THE CORONAVIRUS AND SHARE SHORT DESERVES SCRUTINY AND RIGHT NOW YOU CAN LOOK AT A PODCAST CONTINUING WEEK AFTER WEEK ABOUT THE MURDER OF MICHELLE O'CONNELL SEPTEMBER 2, 2010 IN THE MURDER OF ELI OR ELLIE JANUARY 31 OF 2019. THERE ARE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS ABOUT UNSOLVED MURDERS AND JEREMY BANKS HAS NEVER BEEN TAKEN TO A GRAND JURY.

THE MAN THAT SPENT INVESTIGATING HIM WAS MURDERED. SO SHERIFF SURE ALL SHORES THE INVESTIGATION TO THE PUTNAM COUNTY SHERIFF. HE DOESN'T GET TO RECUSE HIMSELF AND THEN THE INVESTIGATOR BUT THAT'S WHAT HE DID.

HE'S GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER AND HE NEEDS TO BE HELD IN FRONT OF YOU EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR BUDGET HEARINGS. AND ENOUGH SLAVERY FROM THE LIKES OF DAVID SHORE AND VICTORIA OAKS.BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. WE NEED AN INSPECTOR GENERAL AND WE NEED AN OMBUDSMAN AND WE NEED A TWO-PARTY SYSTEM IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING. IF WE CAN HAVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

>> MY NAME IS STAN KHAMIS 1315 COUNTY RD. 13 S. SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA.

AND FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE BCC FOR APPOINTING MR. ROBERSON AS YOUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR. I'VE WORKED WITH HIM IN THE PAST AND HE IS AN EXCELLENT CHOICE AND I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR THE 10 MONTHS HE ACTED AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR.

A FEW OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO BRING TO THE BOARD PUBLIC ATTENTION.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY RIVERDALE RAMP WITH A WASHOUT WHICH BEACH SERVICES HAS BEEN ADVISED AND SENT AN EMAIL TO THEM AS WELL AS MIKE COMMISSIONER, MR. SMITH, TO CHECK ON THAT BECAUSE IT IS THE BOTTOM OF THE BOAT RAMP, THERE WAS A GIANT HOLE AT THE BOTTOM AS WELL. SO IT'S ALMOST UNNAVIGABLE AND THE FACILITY HAS WHAT I WOULD CALL PEDESTRIAN HAZARDS WHICH COULD OPEN THE COUNTY TO SOME LIABILITY FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO WALK OR MOVE AROUND ON THE FACILITY. THE SECOND THING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP, SO CON 18-01 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. IT'S LOCATED AT 10500 COUNTY RD. 13 S. AND THESE FOLKS CLEARED THAT PLAN IN ANTICIPATION OF PUTTING IN A SUBDIVISION WHICH THEY DID THE DEVELOPER WALKS AWAY FROM IT LAND HAS BEEN CLEARED AND IT WILL GROW BACK NATURALLY, BUT THE TREES THAT WERE REMOVED HAVE NOT BEEN REPLACED AND WILL BE SCARRED TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME FOLLOW-UP WITH THAT.

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ARTICLE 40105D 3A SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT TREES MAY BE REPLACED AT THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. SO IF THE STAFF WANTS TO, IN ESSENCE, PENALIZE THESE FOLKS WERE CUTTING DOWN THE TREES KNOWINGLY OUTSIDE OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THOSE TREES COULD BE TREES SPADED BACK INTO PLACE. EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE FOR MANY REASONS, BUT IT IS ONE SOLUTION. I DO UNDERSTAND EPIC THEATERS IS TRYING TO STAY IN BUSINESS AND I PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN TO NOT DROP THE HAMMER ON THEM MAY BE QUITE AS HARD. LET'S SEE. I'VE ONLY GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME HERE. OH. WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PAGE, IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND ADDRESSES OR CASES THAT MAY BE OPEN.

WHICH I'M REFERRING TO SUBCONTRACT ONE AND THE LAST IMPRESSION I GOT IS BECAUSE Ã

YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU VERY

MUCH, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: ALL

RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> NUMBER PUBLIC COMMENTS AT

THIS TIME. >> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME?

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MR. CHAIRMAN, NOT SEEING ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY DELETIONS OR ÃTO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: NONE. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON: NONE. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS? >> NONE.

QUICK COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> NONE, SIR. >> ADMINISTRATION?

>> NONE, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT. AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION

TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> WILL CONSENT AGENDA >> SECOND

>> OF A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON AND WE WILL PROCEED WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE.

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COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: YES. LAST TUESDAY, I REQUESTED THAT THERE BE AN ITEM ON TODAY'S AGENDA DEALING WITH THE CURRENT CATASTROPHE GOING ON IN THE LOCAL TOURISM INDUSTRY AND WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT. AND I WANTED TO ADD WHAT I THINK EACH OF YOU, I HOPE EACH OF YOU RECEIVED LATE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.

THE RED FOLDER ITEM DEALING WITH A PLAN TO ADDRESS THIS, AND I WAS GOING TO REQUEST THAT THAT BE ADDED TO TODAY'S AGENDA AND NORMALLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE WOULD DO THAT ADDING IS PROBABLY ITEM 10 AT THE END OF THE AGENDA TODAY. I WANT TO MAKE A SPECIAL REQUEST, IF I MAY, BECAUSE MAYOR TRACY OF CHURCHES WAS WITH US THIS MORNING AND IN DEFERENCE TO HIS SCHEDULE AND WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST, IF POSSIBL, THAT WE TAKE THIS ITEM UP FIRST RATHER THAN LAST AND THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST TO ADD TO THE REGULAR THE TOURISM

INDUSTRY ITEM TO DISCUSS TODAY. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN.

WE WILL ADD IT AS NUMBER 10 AND CONSIDERATE MOVING UP IN THE AGENDA.

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER: NO, SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON? >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON: NO, SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNS? >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS: ,NO, SIR.

>> ADMINISTRATION? >> NO, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: NONE FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AS WELL.LL RIGHT. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO

APPROVE THE REGULAR AGENDA AS AMENDED. >> I SO MOVE.

>> HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOHNS TO THE INCLUSION OF THE ITEM IN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON. ANY DISCUSSION? WE WILL PROCEED WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE.

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COMMISSIONER DEAN, WE WILL BE GLAD TO DO SO. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE EITHER A BRIEF INTRODUCTION OR MAYBE EXPAND ON THAT LITTLE.

LET ME SAY WE HAVE BOTH HERE WITH US TODAY TO ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND GO INTO WHATEVER DETAIL YOU WISH REGARDING THE PLAN RECOVERY FOR THE TOURIST INDUSTRY.

BASICALLY SUMMARIZED IN A MEMO THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO EACH OF US YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW.

AND WE COULD SPEND AN HOUR OR TWO HOURS DISCUSSING BEST AND DRILLING DEEP, DEEP DOWN INTO THE PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE OF THE TOURIST INDUSTRY, BUT BECAUSE OF THE COVID-19 VIRUS, LET ME GO RIGHT TO THE BOTTOM LINE THAT TO ME IS THE MOST IMPORTANT AND THE MOST STIRRING NUMBER THAT I HAVE HEARD ABOUT OR READ. AND THAT IS PRIOR TO THE COVID-19 VIRUS, WE HAD A TOURIST INDUSTRY WITH APPROXIMATELY 29,000 EMPLOYEES EMPLOYED GETTING PAID. TODAY, WE HAVE LOST AN ESTIMATED ÃAND I THINK THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD NUMBER. IT'S NOT A GOOD NUMBER, BUT IT IS A CORRECT NUMBER-WE HAVE 18,000 UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE WHO DO NOT KNOW WHERE THEIR MONEY IS COMING FROM TO PAY THE RENT OR TO BOTHER NEXT WEEK'S GROCERIES. OUT OF 29,000, WE HAVE 18,000 ESTIMATED TO BE UNEMPLOYED. AND JUST TO PUT THAT IN A LITTLE LARGER PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE A TOTAL, THE LATEST ESTIMATE THIS YEAR FROM THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, A TOTAL NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE GOVERNMENT ÃIN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IN THIS COUNTY, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 66,000 EMPLOYEES.

YOU CAN DO THE MATH. THAT'S JUST IN THE TOURIST INDUSTRY ALONE.

THAT'S JUST UNDER HALF. THE TOTAL EMPLOYMENT IN THIS COUNTY.

AND OF THE TOURIST INDUSTRY EMPLOYEES, 63 PERCENT ARE UNEMPLOYED.

AS I SIT HERE THIS MORNING. THIS IS, IN MY LIFETIME, THE BIGGEST CATASTROPHE TO HIT THIS COUNTY EVER. AND I THINK THAT EXTREME CATASTROPHES CALL FOR BOLD DECISIVE ACTION. AND I THINK WE ARE IN A POSITION AND THANK GOD FOR THE PAST WISDOM OF THIS COMMISSION, CURRENT AND PREVIOUS MEMBERS, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BUILD UP A VERY HEALTHY RESERVE ACCOUNT IN THE GENERAL FUND. WITH THAT SAID, I THINK WHEN WE HAVE A CATASTROPHE, THERE IS A REASON THAT WE DISCUSS EVERY BUDGET HERE, WHY WE HAVE A HEALTHY RESERVE FUND TO DEAL WITH UNANTICIPATED EMERGENCIES. WHAT WE HAVE THIS WEEK IS AN UNANTICIPATED CATASTROPHE. AND IT'S ALWAYS SORT OF A DIFFICULT DECISION, I THINK, TO TRANSFER MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES. I THINK EACH OF US HAVE AN OVERWHELMING COMMITMENT TO STEWARDSHIP OF OUR TAX DOLLARS. IT'S THE PEOPLE'S MONEY.

I GET THAT. BUT WHEN WE HAVE A CATASTROPHE THAT HAS PUT 18,000 EMPLOYEES IN THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE, I THINK IT'S TIME TO ACT. SO THE BCB PRESIDENT CEO RICHARD GOLDMAN HAS PUT TOGETHER, I THINK, AN EXCELLENT PLAN TO BASICALLY JUMPSTART, RESTART, IF YOU WILL THE TOURIST INDUSTRY IN THIS COUNTY.

IT GOES INTO SUBSTANTIAL DETAIL. AGAIN, YOU CERTAINLY MAY WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS OF MR. GOLDMAN. TARA IS HERE AS WELL.

AND WITH THAT SAID, MY HOPE IS ÃAND BY THE WAY, LAST FRIDAY THE FORD VETTED THIS PLAN DETAIL FOR TWO HOURS. YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND PAUL SITS ON THE TDC AS OUR REPRESENTATIVE. THE TDC REVIEWED IT AND ASKED A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS MR. GOLDMAN WASN'T THERE BUT I THINK THAT WAS AN HOUR OR SO DISCUSSION. SO I THINK IT'S BEEN WELL VETTED AND I THINK IT'S A STRONG PLAN. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE.

IT'S PHASED AND WILL GET THESE PEOPLE BACK TO WORK. CAN WE GET THE TOURIST INDUSTRY BACK ON ITS FEET. AND SO THIS, I THINK, IS A NEEDED REQUIREMENT, AND WE DO HAVE MAYOR AT CHURCH HERE TO SPEAK AND SEVERAL OTHER MEMBERS OF THE VCB INDUSTRY LEADERS SO AT THIS POINT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD ASK AND TURN IT BACK TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, BUT

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AGAIN, THEY ARE CURRENTLY SITTING IN THEIR HOMES UNEMPLOYED.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I WANT TO TELL YOU ÃTHOSE AMONG OTHER DECISIONS.

ONE THING THAT YOU SHOULD APPRECIATE IS THAT INVESTMENTS IN TOURISM HEAL FAST BY PUTTING MONEY INTO MARKETING WE WILL BRING THEM BACK. AND THEY WILL SPEND THEIR MONEY AND THAT WILL KEEP PEOPLE EMPLOYED. WHAT WE ARE GOING ÃWHAT OUR PLAN IS. WE ARE USING THOSE DOLLARS TO INITIATE.

AMONG THOSE VISITORS WHO ARE WILLING TO TRAVEL YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING LOTS OF FIGURES AND FACTS NOT EOPLE WILLING TO TRAVEL. THE FIGHT OVER THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE VICIOUS HERE IN FLORIDA WITH OTHER DESTINATIONS.MANY OF THEM HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN WE DO. THE CURRENT VALUE IN 2017 THE CURRENT VALUE OF THE TOURISM INDUSTRY IS BEST. IT'S PROFOUND. 1.4 BILLION DIRECT SPEND.

IT KEEPS 29,000 PEOPLE EMPLOYED WHEN THINGS ARE WORKING. BASED ON BACKWARD PROJECTIONS FROM THE DECLINE IN BUSINESS BETWEEN MARCH AND MAY 63 PERCENT DECLINE YIELDED THE ESTIMATE OF 18,300 PEOPLE OUT OF WORK. THAT TAX ÃBED TAX PROJECTION IS CLOSE TO $3 MILLION. AS I SAID, WE ARE MONITORING PEOPLE'S INTENTIONS TO TRAVEL DAY IN AND DAY OUT. THEY ARE WILLING TO TRAVEL. SOME ARE WILLING TO TRAVEL IN THE FUTURE AND MANY ARE NOT. WE HAD TO GET OUR BUDGET FIXED WITH ZERO ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM THE COUNTY AND THAT WAS A DECISION THAT WAS MADE IN MARCH.

ABOUT $2000 BETWEEN MAY AND SEPTEMBER. WE ARE ASKING YOU TO COMMIT 2 MILLION DOLLARS INCREMENTAL PLAN THAT WILL GET US BACK TO THE KINDS OF DEMAND FOR TOURISM THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE TO SUSTAIN THE TOURISM INDUSTRY. NOT BACK TO NORMAL LEVELS.

BACK TO LEVELS THAT CAN ALLOW OUR BUSINESSES TO OPERATE WITH EMPLOYMENT BEYOND ÃTHE PAYROLL PROTECTION PROGRAM WHICH ENDS JULY 1. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE DEMAND ESTABLISHED WE HAVE TO MONITOR THE DATA AND CAREFULLY MONITOR HOW THEY ARE RETURNING TO THE MARKET AND HOW THEY ARE LOOKING AT BOOKING US. WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE ARE BLESSED WITH ASSETS THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TRAVEL TO Ã WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS THE ABILITY AND THE RESOURCES TO

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THROUGH HELP ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT IS INTENDED TO PROP UP JOBS IN THE TOURISM TOURISM INDUSTRY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO ALL THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR. WE HAVE TARGETED AN AUDIENCE OF WHAT WE CALL PURPOSE PURSUERS. THEY ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THE KINDS OF ENRICHMENT THAT THE INFORMATION TO PROVIDE THE TARGETING THOSE FOLKS DOES TAKE RESOURCES.

WE ARE GOING TO BE TARGETING THEM IN FLORIDA AND THOSE IN THE NEW DIGITAL AGE YOU ARE SEARCHING FOR OTHER DESTINATIONS SIMILAR TO OURS. LIKE CHARLESTON AND LIGHT SAVANNA. WE ARE ALSO PLANNING ÃTHESE FUNDS ALLOW US TO BE PRESENT FOR EVERYONE IS LOOKING FOR TRAVEL INFORMATION FROM JUNE 1 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30.

THAT'S THE CENTRAL BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL BE IN TOURISM BUYING MODE AT VARIOUS TIMES DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. WE ARE ALSO PLANNING TO BACK LOAD TO ALLOW OUR BUSINESSES TO GET UP AND RUNNING AND FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUOUSLY MONITOR THE MESSAGING AND WHAT OUR AUDIENCES ARE INTERESTED IN. WHAT WORKS, AS IT WILL.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I MENTIONED IS OUR COMPETITIVE SET IS GOING TO BE OUT THERE BUSILY ADVERTISING FOR THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WE WILL BE ADVERTISING FOR.UST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE RANGES, THESE ARE JUST RESERVES THAT THOSE DMO'S HALF.

IT DOES NOT INCLUDE WHAT MONIES THEY HAVE. AVAILABLE THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR. THEY HAVE BEEN TARGETED. SO HOW DOES IT BREAK OUT? THE COLUMN ON THE LEFT IS BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE TO SPEND BETWEEN MAY AND SEPTEMBER.

THE COLUMN ON THE RIGHT IS NOW OUR ADVERTISING AGENCY AND MY TEAM, WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCE PROPOSES TO SPEND $2 MILLION. EVERY DOLLAR IS ACCOUNTED FOR. WE RUN METRICS TO BE SURE WE ARE MONITORING THOSE AND THAT OUR SPEND IS EFFICIENT. THESE ARE SOME OF THE METRICS THAT WE PROPOSE. YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING MONTHLY, WE PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT TOURISM HOTELS INDICATIONS NEEDLES CALZADO PRODUCTS FOR DEMAND INTO THE FUTURE AND THAT WILL EDUCATE US HOW TO MONITOR YOUR MESSAGING. FINALLY WHEN THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD THE COLLECTION OF TAXES. SOMETHING WE ARE ABLE TO

MONITOR WITH JESSE'S OFFICE. I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PRESENTATIONS THIS MORNING? ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS CERTAINLY REDUCTION OF WHAT I'VE SEEN BEFORE. SEVERAL QUESTIONS BUT I WANT TO SEE IF THE BOARD ANYTHING TO ADD. IS THERE ANYTHING? DO YOU WANT PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST? WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT

NEXT AND COMMISSIONER WALDRON. >> WE WILL HELP PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 THAT WE ARE HEARING FIRST. JUDGE BECERRA

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ALL I WANT TO SAY IS WE UNDERSTAND THE RIPPLE EFFECT OF THE TOURISM DOLLAR IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT BUSINESS OWNERS.

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT FOLKS THAT WORKED DIRECTLY IN THE INDUSTRY.

IT IS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THEIR SPENDING THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

AND EVEN MYSELF AS A COLLEGE PROFESSOR, IT RIPPLES THAT FAR AWAY.

WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF STUDENTS AT FLAGLER COLLEGE THAT ARE ENGAGED IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY. AND THAT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT FOR THEIR ABILITY TO GO TO COLLEGE. AND THAT IS IN ADDITION TO THE TOURISM AND HOSPITALITY MAJOR THAT WE HAVE AT FLAGLER COLLEGE. I AM HERE TO SPEAK NOT ON BEHALF OF, OF COURSE, THE COLLEGE, NOT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COMMISSION BUT IN MY INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY AS A COMMISSIONER. AND I WOULD JUST URGE YOU TO USE YOUR WISDOM AND TO SEE YOUR WAY CLEAR TO MAKE THIS ADDITIONAL DISBURSEMENT.

UNDERSTAND EXACTLY THE POSITION AND THE COMMENTS THAT COMMISSIONER DEAN MADE ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY OF HAVING TO DIP INTO RESERVES. WE IN THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE HAVE ABSOLUTELY HAD TO DO THE SAME THING FOR AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BROUGHT IN 120,000 MASKS AVAILABLE TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY FOR PURCHASE. BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO TO NOT ONLY ENHANCE THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY BUT ALSO TO SEND BACK A POSITIVE SIGN TO POTENTIAL VISITORS THAT WE TAKE THE HEALTH CONCERNS IN OUR COMMUNITY SERIOUSLY. WE HAVE SPENT THE TIME DURING THE PANDEMIC QUITE LITERALLY DOING A DEEP CLEANING OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA. WE ARE ALLOCATING MONEY OUT OF OUR RESERVES TO CONTINUE TO CONTRACT WITH AN OUTSIDE VENDOR TO DO ADDITIONAL DEEP CLEANING IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. WE ARE CONSIDERING WAYS THAT WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL SPENDING OUT OF OUR RESERVES TO HELP MONITOR IN AN APPROPRIATE MANNER, SOCIAL DISTANCING ON SAINT GEORGE STRAIT NEPLY PARKS IN THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE ON BOARD.

WE APPRECIATE AND ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ANYTHING THAT THIS COMMISSION CAN DO TO SUPPORT THE TDC IN THIS ALLOCATION AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND

CONSIDERATION. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: IS THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE ÃYOU'VE MENTIONED SEVERAL THINGS YOU HAVE DONE AN CONTRIBUTION ECONOMICALLY OR FROM THE RESERVES FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT TO HELP ASSIST BRINGING VISITORS BACK HAVE YOU OR THE COMMISSION COUNCIL BEEN WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS MARKETING EFFORT AS WELL AND IF

SO, HOW MUCH MONEY? >> OF COURSE AS WE ARE ALL COUNTY TAXPAYERS, I HAVE ALREADY CONTRIBUTED EVERY CITIZEN IN THE WOULD, CITIZENS IN THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, WE DO PAY FOR A HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE AND WE ARE MINDFUL OF THE IMPORTANCE OF TOURISM TO OUR COMMUNITY OF 14,000 WHICH I WAS LAYING IN BED LAST NIGHT TRYING TO DO THE MATH IS ONE LESS THAN ABOUT FIVE PERCENT OF THE CITY'S POPULATION.

SO WHILE THIS ALLOCATION WILL ABSOLUTELY BENEFIT THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, IT WILL BENEFIT PONTE VEDRE IN THE WORLD GOLF MUSEUM AND CRESCENT BEACH AND ALL THE PARTS OF ST. JOHNS

COUNTY AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? >> GOOD MORNING. SHERRY BADGER, 2772 S. COLLINS AVENUE. RIGHT NOW, I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM JUST A LAYMAN'S ASPECT.

YOU ALL DON'T NEED ÃI UNDERSTAND PEOPLE NEED TO GO BACK TO WORK.

NUMBER ONE, MASKS. I HEAR MASKS, MASTS, MASKS, IT DOESN'T PREVENT ANYTHING.

IT DOESN'T PREVENT THE SPREAD AND IT DOESN'T PREVENT YOU FROM GETTING IT.

TO ME, THAT'S A WASTE OF MONEY. UNDERSTAND THE FEAR BUT IT'S KIND OF A FEED THE FEAR KIND OF THING. WE DON'T NEED TO BE WASTING MONEY ON GETTING PEOPLE,

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PUMPING SAND, PUMPING SAND. THAT IS WHAT YOU CARE ABOUT. YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE LOCAL PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? EVERYBODY IS POINTING AT EACH OTHER. COME ON UP.

WE HAVE A MICROPHONE IF YOU WANT TO COME UP. >> IRVING KASS 887 GARRISON DOCTOR ALSO PAST CHAIR AND MEMBER OF THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL.

I JUST WANTED TO FIRST SAY THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, AND I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YESTERDAY ABOUT MY TEAM THAT I HAVE AND I AM VERY CONCERNED OF HOW LONG I CAN KEEP THEM EMPLOYED, WHAT THE SUMMER LOOKS LIKE, WHAT THE NEXT 12 MONTHS LOOK LIKE. AND THEY ARE ETERNALLY GRATEFUL THAT I WAS ABLE TO BRING THEM BACK WITH THE PPP AND THAT GOES AWAY ON 30 JUNE ÃACTUALLY, 28 JUNE.

I'M NOT SURE THAT I CAN KEEP, BASED ON CURRENT BUSINESS LEVELS AND WHAT I FORESEE IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW MY TEAM IN PLACE. SO MY BIG FEAR FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IS WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END ABOUT EIGHT WEEK PERIOD. WE ARE NOT ATTRACTIVELY MARKETING BECAUSE WE HAVE RUN OUT OF MONEY FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.

THE BUDGET IS UP. AND LAST YEAR ÃCOMPARING LAST YEAR'S RESULTS, LAST YEAR WE HAD TWO OR $3 MILLION TO SPEND THE LAST SIX MONTHS. SO MY BIGGER FEAR IS IF WE DON'T SPEND THE MONEY AND WE DON'T CREATE A VERY PROACTIVE PLAN, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT ARE SEEING A LOT OF VOLUME TOWN BUT WE ARE NOT SEEING THE PRICING, SO AS I MENTIONED YESTERDAY, I HAD A VERY GOOD WEEKEND. IT TRIGGERED MY EXPECTATIONS.

I WAS QUITE HAPPY AND THE GAP WERE VERY HAPPY. IT WAS GREAT REVIEWS, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. AND THEN WHEN I PUT THE DEPOSIT IN THE BANK MONDAY MORNING I COMPARED IT TO THE BEFORE. BECAUSE 50 PERCENT OF WHAT I DID THE YEAR BEFORE.

SO I HAD A FABULOUS WEEK AND TOOK INHALF THE MONEY. THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.

WE NEED TO CREATE DEMAND IN THE MARKETPLACE OR THINGS WILL GET EVEN MORE DIFFICULT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PLAN OR ANYTHING I CAN

HELP ANY OF THE COMMISSION WHEN, FEEL FREE TO ASK ME. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: THANK

YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER SIR CHARLES COX.

I HAVE SPOKEN TO SOME OF YOU ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF MARKETING DESTINATIONS THROUGH THE BUREAU. I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU ANYTHING YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY HEARD OTHER THAN THE FACT THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT TOURISM. IT IS ABOUT JOBS THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTY AND BRINGING THOSE JOBS BACK AND GETTING PEOPLE BACK TO WORK.

IT'S JUST HAPPENSTANCE THAT MOST OF THE JOBS ARE DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY RELATED TO TOURISM AND I THINK WE ARE PROBABLY SET UP BETTER THAN MOST DESTINATIONS WITH A WAY TO TRAVEL I THINK WILL HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR AND MOST OF IT WILL BE DRY MARKET TRAVEL OR SET UP PERFECTLY FOR THAT. WE HAVE LOTS OF OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES TO ENJOY SO THAT PUTS US IN A VERY GOOD SPOT. WE NEED TO GET THIS WORKING THERE TO BOLSTER THE INITIATIVE AND BRING OUR COMMUNITY BACK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? MR. CHAIRMAN I SEE NONE >> SEE A NIGHTMARE BACK TO THE

BOARD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IT'S NOT A CLUE. >> GOOD MORNING.

IF WE COULD HAVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> TOM REYNOLDS, 50 BRIGANTINE PORT OVER HERE IN BEAUTIFUL SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH. FIRST OF ALL, I FORGOT TO THANK

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GETTING OVER TO THIS AGENDA ITEM, I WANT TO THANK HENRY DEAN FOR PUTTING THIS RIGHT WHERE IT BELONGS. RIGHT UP FRONT, THAT'S AWESOME. GOOD JOB.

THAT NUMBER IS FRIGHTENING, 18,300 SOME ODD NUMBER FOLKS UNEMPLOYED RIGHT NOW.

COMMISSIONERS, I AM A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED IN RON GOLDMAN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE $2 MILLION IS NOT ENOUGH. COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONLY INDUSTRY THAT FUELS ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THE TOURIST INDUSTRY. WHAT WE NEED NOW IS WE NEED HEAVY ADVERTISING THAT PUTS US AHEAD OF THE PACK. RIGHT NOW I ASKED THAT YOU VOTE TO AMEND THIS AND ADD 3 MILLION FOR THE ATV BIKE. WE NEED ATV BY.

RON GOLDMAN SAID SOME THINGS Ã I KEEP CALLING HIM RON. RICHARD GOLDMAN SAYS SOMETHING IN THERE THAT WE HAVE A TARGET WHO WE ARE GOING TO ADVERTISE TO.

I AGREE WITH THAT. YOU WANT SPENDERS. WE DO NOT WANT PEOPLE ON A BRIDGE FOR PEOPLE STACKED BY UY 12 PACKS OF BEER.E WANT PEOPLE SPENDING MONEY AND THE RESTAURANTS AND WE WANT PEOPLE SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING GOLFING AND SPORT FISHING. WE WANT SPENDERS HERE. I ALSO WANT TO THINK JEB SMITH FOR AS FOR KEY QUESTION ABOUT THE CITY WANTS TO KICK IN. I WANT TO REMIND THE FULL COMMISSION THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO KICK IN BECAUSE THE OLD CITY HAS AN INCREDIBLE DEBT OVER ACCUMULATED PAID TIME OFF. IT'S BIZARRE HOW MUCH MONEY THEY OWE THE EMPLOYEES THERE. THEY HAVE NO MONEY AND THEY ARE BROKE.

I THINK THAT THE PERSON WE NEED TO TARGET TO PICK AND AT LEAST $1 MILLION, THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE COMMISSION AND MAYORS HAVE CATERED FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

HE IS THE WEALTHIEST HOTEL OWNER HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND OWNS 80 PERCENT OF THEM COULD TODAY, PLEASE APPROVE THIS $2 MILLION. NFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT MORE MONEY IN THE RESERVES THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE MINORITY WAS ABLE TO BOOK DOWN ADDING A HOTEL BED TAX WHICH TO ME WAS A SERIOUS BOAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A VOTE FOR THE HOMETOWN TEAM. REMEMBER, YOU PUT THOSE 18,300+ PEOPLE IN MIND FIRST.

DON'T GO COUNTING DOLLARS AND TRY TO PLAY CONSERVATIVE AFTER YOU GAVE $2.1 MILLION TAX BREAK TO THE PGA. IT'S TIME TO DO SOMETHING FOR WORKING DOGS OF THIS COMMUNITY RIGHT HERE. THE PEOPLE ARE THE WORKERS AND THE PEOPLE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SHIP RIGHT NOW THAT ABSOLUTELY NEED TO COME BACK UP ON TOP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU TO RICHARD GOLDMAN AND HIS STAFF. HE ALWAYS IS A GREAT PRESENTATION AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU SOMETHING, I HOPE MAYOR UPCHURCH ABSOLUTELY WILL BE SPEAKING LOUD AND CLEAR TO CANCEL THE FIREWORKS. WE DON'T NEED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ON THE BRIDGE ALLIANCE COME 4TH OF JULY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

GOD BLESS THE WHOLE BUNCH OF YOU. >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> THIS IS ED SLAVEN BOX 3084 AT ED SLAVEN.COM CLEANUPCITYOFSTAUGISTINE. BLOGSPOT.COM. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH MR. KASS.

WE NEED A SUSTAINABLE TOURISM INDUSTRY. AND TO GET THERE WHAT WE NEED IS WHAT THE MAYOR OF ST. AUGUSTINE CALLED FOR IN 1939, ST. AUGUSTINE NATIONAL HISTORICAL PARK AND NATIONAL SEASHORE. THE MAP THAT WE HAVE DRAWN HAS ABOUT 130,000 ACRES OF CURRENT GOVERNMENT OWNED LAND INCLUDING THE BEACHES AND THE STATE PARKS AND THE STATE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PLAN. AND IF WE PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER IS BIGGER THAN CAPE COD NATIONAL SEASHORE BECAUSE IN 2003 THE NATIONAL TRUST FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION STUDY FOUND THAT HISTORIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL TAURUS FOUND TWICE AS LONG AND TWICE AS MUCH WHEN THEY COME HERE. SO I DON'T THINK THE ANSWER IS NECESSARILY A $2 MILLION ADD TO BUY. THE NUMBER 2 MILLION IS RATHER ODD, AND I THINK YOU NEED TO CLOSE QUESTIONING ON THAT. IT REMINDS ME OF THAT SCENE IN ONE OF THE TOM CLANCY MOVIES WHERE JACK RYAN WANTS TO BUY A HELICOPTER AND SOME GUY IN LATIN AMERICA SAYS THAT WILL BE $2 MILLION.HERE DID THEY GET THAT NUMBER FOR WHAT ARE WE

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WE DON'T HAVE LOTS OF PEOPLE AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ADVOCATING FOR WORKERS.

YOU ARE REPRESENTING PEOPLE REPUBLICANS USUALLY REPRESENT, BIG BUSINESS AND THE BIG EMPLOYERS. EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW IS IN THIS SUIT BECAUSE THE ENTIRE NATIONAL ECONOMY WAS BUILT ON A HOUSE OF CARDS IN THE CORONAVIRUS MADE THAT APPEARANCE. SO I THINK YOU SHOULD APPROVED LESS THAN 2 MILLION AND ASKING MORE QUESTIONS. IT'S LIKE MY POLISH GRANDMOTHER SAID BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THEY HAD HORSE-DRAWN HUCKSTERS SELLING FRUITS AND VEGETABLES. SHE SAID DID YOU EVER HEAR A HUCKSTER HOLLER ROTTEN FRUIT? JIMMY AND DOLLARS FOR ADVERTISING, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE BEST USE OF THE MONEY AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE COLLOQUY BACK-AND-FORTH RATHER THAN MR. GOLDMAN JUST MAKING ÃI STRONGLY SUPPORTED MR. GOLDMAN A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN VCB VOTED TO FIRE HIM AND TOM REYNOLDS AND I AND PEOPLE IN THE TOURIST INDUSTRY TALKED TO THE VCB. WE TURNED THAT AROUND BECAUSE THEY WERE VIOLATING HIS RIGHTS AND EVEN THOUGH WE DISAGREE ON POLICY DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB. I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS 2 MILLION AND IS REALLY NECESSARY YOU VOTE IT TODAY? DOES IT REALLY HAVE TO BE VOTED

TODAY? WE NEED MORE DATA. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: THANK

YOU, MR. SLAVEN. >> ,GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD?

>> MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION I AM MARKED WITH ADVANCED DISPOSAL AND THE CHAIRMAN OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE REPRESENTING THE VIEWS OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BUSINESS COMMUNITY. MY ADDRESS IS 100 S. PARK BLVD.

IN ST. AUGUSTINE. I WANT TO PUBLICLY LEND THE CHAMBER'S FULL SUPPORT TO THE REQUEST FOR $2 MILLION IN FUNDING TO FINANCE A MARKETING NEED CAMPAIGN DESIGNED TO BRING VISITORS BACK TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY. ONE OF THE MAJOR ECONOMIC DRIVERS IN OUR COUNTY IS OUR TOURISM SECTOR AND IT HAS BEEN HIT HARD.

JUST THIS WEEK BUSINESSES ARE NOW ALLOWED TO OPEN AT 50 PERCENT CAPACITY.

THE COUNTIES SALES TAX AND REVENUES ARE IN A FREEFALL. THOUSANDS OF HARD-WORKING ST.

JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENS, OUR FRIENDS AND OUR NEIGHBORS, HAVE BEEN OUT OF WORK THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN. THEY WANT TO COME BACK TO WORK, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TOURISM SECTOR COMES BACK STRONG, SAFE, AND HEALTHY. MANY OF OUR TOURISM RELATED BUSINESSES HAVE FINALLY RECEIVED THE PAYROLL PROTECTION PLAN DOLLARS THEY HAVE REQUESTED WHICH WILL ALLOW THEM TO KEEP EMPLOYEES ON PAYROLL THROUGH MID JULY.

BEYOND THAT POINT WHEN BUSINESSES REALLY NEED IS A RETURN OF VISITORS TO KEEP THEIR BUSINESSES IN OPERATION AND KEEP THE ECONOMY GOING IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION.

THE TDC REQUESTS WILL HELP JUMPSTART THAT EFFORT. WE NEED VISITORS TO COME BACK TO OUR BEACHES, OUR HISTORIC CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, PONTE VEDRE, AND THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE. AS WE DID AFTER HURRICANE MATHEW AND IRMA, WE NEED TO TELL THE WORLD THAT WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, AND THAT TAKES MONEY FOR MARKETING.

OTHER FLORIDA TOURIST DESTINATIONS THAT WILL COMPETE WITH US ARE ALREADY FLOODING THE WEB IN THE AIRWAYS WITH PROMOTIONS TO ENTICE VISITORS. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE THIS RACE. WE SIMPLY MUST PROMOTE ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS THE PLACE FOR VISITORS TO SHOP, STAY, DINE, AND YES, PAY THE TAXES AND ENJOY OUR SPECIAL PART OF THE WORLD. WE SUPPORT THIS EFFORT BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR

OUR ENTIRE 50. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> THIS IS LISA, 703 PINEHURST PLACE, ST. AUGUSTINE. I WANTED TO CALL IN THIS MORNING TO SUPPORT THIS PROPOSAL, AND I WOULD ASK FOR YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT THIS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE SEEING COMING TO THE FOOD BANKS.

WE HAVE RECENTLY GONE THROUGH TWO MAJOR FOOD DRIVES IN OUR COUNTY THAT WERE QUITE

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OTHERS HAVE A LOVE-HATE RELATIONSHIP AND THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IN THE STORES BEING CROWDED. OUR ECONOMY IS REALLY HURTING AND WE SEE IT WITH THE PEOPLE COMING INTO SEAFOOD AND ASSISTANT. I WOULD ASK YOU AS YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL TO SUPPORT IT AND THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GO BACK TO WORK.

I THINK THIS IS AN INVESTMENT IN OUR FUTURE AND AN INVESTMENT IN THE ECONOMY TO GET BACK TO

WHERE IT WAS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME >> THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING. CAN WE GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS?

>> THIS IS DANNY THE ADDRESS IS 712 MILLSTREAM RD., PONTE VEDRE BEACH, FLORIDA.

I AM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE TDC THIS YEAR AND I'M CALLING TO RELATE THAT OUR SUPPORT FOR MR. GOLDMAN AND FOR THE PROPOSAL. I LISTENED TO COMMISSIONER DEAN'S COMMENTS AND THEY WERE STRONGLY MIRRORING EXACTLY MY COMMENTS, AND THAT IS THIS IS NOT JUST $1 TRILLION GOING TO THE VISITORS BUREAU. THIS IS $2 MILLION GOING TO THOSE 18,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING FOR THE INDUSTRY, AND I THINK IT'S JUST CRITICAL THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN AT THIS POINT TO CHANGE THE COURSE OF THIS PANDEMIC AND ITS IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.

I KNOW IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DIP INTO THE RESERVES THAT THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN SO INVOLVED IN CREATING AND MAINTAINING. BUT IT OCCURS TO ME THAT IF THERE IS EVER A MORE SERIOUS REASON TO DIP INTO THE RESERVES, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT THE TIME IS NOW AND HOPE THE COMMISSION WILL GIVE CAREFUL CONSIDERATION AND PROCEED TO THIS APPROPRIATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> COULD WE HAVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RESIDENT? LET'S THE MORNING. MY NAME IS [INDISCERNIBLE]. LIVE AT 655 SUNDOWN CIR. IN SEAGROVE. I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT AND ATTENDED AND GRADUATED FLAGLER OVER 20 YEARS AGO AND I OWN A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, TWO-BEDROOMS, OUT TO BE AND I'M CALLING TO ASK FOR YOU TO LIST THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL BAN I'M ASKING YOU LIFTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS AND MY FAMILY COUNTS ON THAT INCOME TO KEEP BACK AND WE HAVE LOST OVER $20,000 SO FAR. MY FAMILY OVERALL OWNS FIVE RENTAL HOUSES.

WE ARE DESPERATE NOT TO LOSE THE HOMES BECAUSE WE CAN'T TAKE THE SECOND MORTGAGES.

AND CALLING TO REQUEST TO LIFT THAT BAND. I KNOW HE NEVER CLOSED ON THE HOTELS AND TIMESHARES. NOTHING. RESTRICTED EXCEPT FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL ALMOST WALKING THE BEACH IN SAINT HOTELS STILL PACKED FULL BUT THEY ARE COMING FROM EVERYWHERE WE ARE VERY CAUTIOUS TO SANITIZE AND CLEAN EVERYTHING TO KEEP UP WITH THE CLEANLINESS AND ITS NOT PASSED ON TO LARGER STATES LIKE HOTELS.

THERE'S NO WAY THAT'S THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL FLOWS. SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL

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ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE >> TOM, 42 VALENCIA ST. IN ST. AUGUSTINE.

>> STILL AHEAD. THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING THIS MEETING.

I REPRESENT A RESTAURANT ON BAYFRONT. WE EMPLOY APPROXIMATELY 65 EMPLOYEES WHO THANKFULLY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO BACK TO WORK HOWEVER BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTED TIMEFRAME ON THAT, THOUGH STAFF AFTER THE EIGHT WEEKS AS MUCH AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE A LITTLE TOO WE ARE NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE. LOW BACK AND LOADING CAN HELP ADVERTISE THE CITY ÃWHEN THE COUNTY IS READY AND SAY IN ADDITION TO THE 18,000 INDUSTRY LOSSES LOSE OUR DELIVERY DRIVERS, PROPANE, LINENS, LAUNDRY, ALL OF THE THINGS ASSOCIATED THAT RESTAURANTS ARE GETTING A HOTELS ARE GETTING AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME

>> THANK YOU. I SEE NO OTHER COMMENT >> HELLO

>> I'M SORRY. PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> THIS IS JOE. 1005 BLACKBERRY LN. IN ST. JOHNS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE NORTHWEST FOR PROGRESS. AND UNFOLDING IN AND SUPPORT THAT AM SO IMPRESSED WITH THE PLANNING THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS AND WHAT THE EXTENT OF MONITORING THAT IS POSSIBLE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE A HEART FOR OUR 18,000 UNEMPLOYED BROTHERS AND SISTERS JUST WANTED TO GO TO MY SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

>> CAN I HAVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? ARE WE DONE? OKAY. I SEE NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT COMING FROM THE FLOOR? WE ARE NOT CLOSED AND ONE BACK TO THE BOARD FOR QUESTIONS.

ANYTHING FROM THE BOARD? >> I WILL LET TARA DECIDE AND ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I

HAVE RELATED TO YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE FOR THIS MARKETING. >> WHO IS YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE?

>> WHAT WE HAVE DONE AS WE ARE TARGETING WHAT ARE CONSIDERED PURPOSE PURSUERS.

THOSE ARE FOLKS WHO ÃIS CALLED A PERSONA. IT'S BASED ON RICH DATA THAT EVALUATES WHAT PEOPLE'S INTERESTS ARE AND WHAT THEIR MOTIVATIONS ARE.

IN THIS DATA ANALYSIS WE ARE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE KINDS OF PEOPLE ARE MOTIVATED OTHER THAN SIMPLY RELAXATION. THE TENANT THE THEY ARE INTERESTED IN ENHANCING THEIR EXPERIENCES AND THEIR KNOWLEDGE AS PART OF THEIR EXPOSURE. IT'S BOTH ÃTHEY ARE BOTH YOUNG

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THOSE SUBJECTS THAT ARE MOST >> WHAT'S THE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION?

>> BASED ON THIS BUDGET WE ARE TARGETING PRIMARILY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND SO YOU SEE IN THE MATERIALS YOU HAVE THERE GAINESVILLE, JACKSONVILLE, DMA, ORLANDO, DAYTONA, AND THE TAMPA CP AREA IS OUR PRIMARY LOCATIONS. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT EXPANDING OUT INTO THE SOUTHEAST THROUGH SOME OF OUR DIGITAL PLATFORMS. THE PRESENT ON TRIP ADVISOR ALSO ALLOWS US TO TARGET FOLKS WHO ARE INQUIRING ABOUT TRAVEL TO OUR COMPETITORS SO WE CAN AMBUSH THEM WITH MESSAGING TO COME TO OUR DESTINATION EVEN AS

THEY ARE LOOKING AT PLACES. >> WHAT'S THE TIMING? >> WE ÃTHE PROGRAM THAT'S $2 MILLION A YEAR ASKING FOR WILL BEGIN ON JUNE 1 THE DEVELOPMENT OF CREATIVE ÃIT WOULD HAPPEN AS SOON AS WE HAVE A GREEN LIGHT AND WE WILL BE ÃAS I SAID BACK LOADING IT.

SO JUNE WE WILL BEGIN TO PICK UP SPEED AND THEN JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER BE THE STRENGTH

OF THE SCHEDULE. >> OKAY. WHAT'S THE TYPICAL ÃWE TALK ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. BASED ON THE MARKETING ÃAND BY THE WAY, ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS, YOU DO A FANTASTIC JOB MARKETING.

TO THE POINT OF THE PAST. PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW YOU NEED TO RESTRICT ÃA GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE AND IT'S BEEN WELL-MANAGED I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT OUTFRONT.

RIGHT ORGANIZATION WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE EFFECTIVELY ATTRACT PEOPLE.

BASED ON THE MARKETING EFFORTS FROM ROUGHLY JUNE TO SEPTEMBER WAS THE TYPICAL RESPONSE TIME

WHEN YOU SEE VISITORS >> WILL HAVE PEOPLE MAKING DECISIONS INSIDE ABOUT 30 PERCENT OF THE FOLKS MAKING THE DECISION INSIDE OF 30 DAYS. WITH THIS CURRENT PANDEMICS, WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE TELLING US THAT THEY ARE DELAYING THEIR RESPONSES.

THE DATA OR THE PACKAGE YOU HAVE RECEIVED, YOU SEE WHERE THERE IS A CHART ON HOW PEOPLE ARE PLANNING FOR THIS MONTH VERSUS LAST MONTH AND IT CARRIES ON THROUGH THE YEAR.

SO I SUGGEST YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND GET A SENSE FOR IT. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS OUR COMPETITORS WILL BE OUT THERE FIGHTING FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE READY TO TRAVEL AND ARE GOING TO BE READY TO TRAVEL ON JUNE AND JULY. AND IF WE ARE NOT THERE WITH THAT MESSAGING ON A DIGITAL STANDPOINT RUNNING RIGHT THROUGH TO SEPTEMBER 30.BUT THE OTHER ADVERTISING IS GOING TO COME UP LATER. THE POINT OF ALL THAT IS OUR COMPETITORS ARE GOING TO BE OUT THERE WITH VERY LOUD VOICE AND WE NEED THE ASSETS.

THE RESOURCES. TO BE OUT THERE WITH OUR MESSAGING AS WELL.

WE RECOGNIZE THIS UNEMPLOYMENT WE'VE BEEN UNDER THIS SAFER AT HOME FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS.

I'VE BEEN TALKING SINCE WE RECOGNIZE THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN TAKING CARE OF THEIR HEALTH AND WE NEED TO HELP THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED. I'VE BEEN SAYING IT AT EVERY SINGLE MEETING FOR OVER FOUR MEETINGS I THINK NOW IT'S SIX AND A REQUESTED FUNDING FROM VARIOUS SOURCES TO SERVE EXACTLY THE DEMOGRAPHIC YOU ARE DESCRIBING.

UNEMPLOYED RESIDENTS THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, THEIR WE ARE ALL EXPECTED THINGS TO D RESUME TO SOME SORT OF NORMALCY GETTING BACK TO WORK BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT THE STAGE WHERE WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WORK, NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE PEOPLE LOOKING. WE ARE LOOKING AT MORE THAN 50 AT SOME POINT WE ARE SEEING THE NUMBER OF CASES IN OTHER STATES EARLIER THAN WE HAVE INCREASED

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BUT I AM CONSCIOUS OF THAT. I ATTRACTED PEOPLE HERE DURING THESE TIME PERIODS AND ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS IN THE SPREAD.EOPLE COMING FROM MIAMI AND ATLANTA AND LOUISIANA, NEW YORK, THEY ARE STILL ON THE FORBIDDEN LIST SO TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME. LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO ATTRACT THEM.

IF WE ATTRACT PEOPLE TO OUR HOTELS, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? WE DON'T HAVE CONCERT MENUS AND WE DON'T HAVE THINGS WE ARE ATTRACTING TOURISTS FOR OTHER THAN OUR BEACHES AND SMALL VENUES. WHAT WILL THEY ÃWHAT ARE YOU MARKETING OTHER THAN COULD WE LIVE IN PARADISE? EVEN PEOPLE NEED A CHANGE OF SCENERY. THE TIMING IS A CONCERN BECAUSE YOU CAN VERY EFFECTIVELY ASK WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO SAFELY AND CONFIDENTLY BE SAFE TO DO SO? HOW DO WE INCORPORATE THAT? READ THE LAST SPEECH TO CLOSE NOT BECAUSE OF OUR RESIDENTS TAKING CARE OF THEIR HEALTH AND SAFETY IT WAS THE VISITORS WHO ARE NOT BEHAVING AS THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO. AND I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. I SUPPORT MARKETING AND TOURISM INDUSTRY BECAUSE THAT'S THE LIFEBLOOD OF THE COUNTY THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE AND ST.

AUGUSTINE BEACHES A PERCENTAGE OF THAT AS A WHOLE. NO LESS IMPORTANT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AS YOU ATTRACT THEM THERE?

>> THERE'S A LOT TO UNPACK THERE. LET ME START WITH THE WHOLE HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THE CLOSURES. THAT MONEY DOES NOT COME BACK.

THAT'S THE REASON WE ARE HERE. WE TALK ABOUT RESUMING NORMAL BUSINESS.

THE PORTION THAT'S NOT GOING TO REPRESENT IS THE MARKET. THERE ARE RESOURCES FOR THAT.

WE DO HAVE THAT AS AN ASSET. WE ARE DRIVABLE ÃALL OF THOSE LOCATIONS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ADVERTISING IN. SO WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN ENTICE THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND ENJOY THE DESTINATION FOR THE THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO.

WE WILL NOT BE MARKETING A MAJOR EVENT. EVEN THOSE EVENTS ARE NOT HAPPENING SO WE WON'T BE MARKETING THOSE AND WE WILL NOT BE CREATING A DEMAND FOR LARGE GATHERINGS. WE WILL BE FOCUSING ON KINDS OF EXPERIENCES THAT FAMILIES CAN HAVE HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY WHERE SOCIAL DISTANCING IS EASY.

AND IT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED. THOSE CAN BE OUR TARGETS. AND WE THINK THIS IS A REALLY PGOOD INVESTMENT. TYPICALLY IN CONVERSATIONS SUCH AS THIS, HOW LONG ÃWE TALKED ABOUT A THIRD OF THE AUDIO WHILE BEING MOVED WITHIN 30 DAYS AND ÃCLOSE AND WE WILL HAVE FOLKS AND IT'S OPEN, I'M GOING TOMORROW. THERE'S GOING TO BE THAT ELEMENT. LONG-TERM, WE NEED PEOPLE TO BE THINKING ABOUT US AS A DESTINATION COMING BACK. THAT'S WHAT MOST OF THE COMMUNICATION WILL BE ABOUT.

I KNOW YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE INVESTMENT. DOCTOR JERRY PARRISH WHO IS THE CHIEF ECONOMIST FOR THE FLORIDA CHAMBER FOUNDATION, PRIOR TO THAT ROLE HE WAS THE CHIEF ECONOMIST FOR TAX WATCH, FLORIDA. HE WAS ASKED TO CONDUCT A STUDY ON THE SPENDING OF TOURISM DOLLARS. BASED ON HIS REPORT, HE SAID

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WE TALK ABOUT THE BEACHES, WE TALK ABOUT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF BUSINESSES AND THOSE PEOPLE. AND THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF GAS STATIONS THAT WILL BE FILLING UP WITH CARS BECAUSE AIR TRAVEL IS GOING TO COME BACK A LOT LESS ÃA LOT SLOWER THAN

AUTOMOBILES. >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

WHERE DO WE STAND TODAY? WHAT IS THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TODAY AS IT IS COMPARED TO THIS TIME LAST YEAR? I HEARD FROM MR. CASS THAT KIND OF WAS HALF THE REVENUE.

WHERE DO WE STAND IN RGARD TO OCCUPANCY IN THE COUNTY TODAY? >> THE TRAVEL REPORT FROM LAST WEEK WAS JUST IN, AND IT HAD US ABOUT 28 PERCENT OCCUPANCY FOR THE MONTH.

20 PERCENT OCCUPANCY FOR THE RUNNING MONTH OF MAY. NOW WE ARE, WHAT, TWO REPORTED

WEEKS INTO MAY. >> WHERE WERE WE LAST YEAR? >> LAST YEAR, WE WERE Ã12, MEMORIAL DAY ITSELF, WE WERE 89 PERCENT ON FRIDAY, 98 PERCENT ON SATURDAY AND BACK TO 89 PERCENT ON SUNDAY. THAT WAS MEMORIAL DAY, SO THAT THIS COMING WEEKEND.

WE WERE SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER. WE WERE IN THE 90S. THIS IS A HIGH SEASON FOR US.

>> DO HAVE COMPARISONS TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY THROUGH MAY AT 28 PERCENT WHERE WE WERE EARLIER

LAST YEAR? >> I COULD PULL THAT UP. I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE CHART

QUICKLY, BUT I CAN PULL THAT OFF. >> WELL, 90 PERCENT THIS

WEEKEND ÃWHAT ARE THE PROJECTIONS FOR THIS WEEKEND? >> PROJECTIONS FOR THIS WEEKEND ARE GOING TO BE COUNTYWIDE. PROBABLY 50 PERCENT LEVEL. THESE PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO

DO A BETTER. THOSE ARE PROJECTIONS. >> THAT'S WHY I ASKED.

IT HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE. WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AN INVESTMENT IN THE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE. AND WE DON'T HAVE FORWARD-LOOKING DATA THAT'S COUNTYWIDE. IT DOESN'T ÃTHERE ISN'T A SERVICE THAT PROVIDES THAT. CHIEF HARTWIG DOES DO POLLING AT THE REQUEST OF ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH OF GENERAL MANAGERS IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH.

SO HE GETS A ROUGNE ODOR, A REPORT FROM THEM. JUST AS A REMINDER, WE ARE STILL IN THE TIMEFRAME WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE JUST OPENED UP.

THEY HAVE JUST BEEN ALLOWED TO GET OUT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF ARTIFICIALLY GENERATED DEMAND. OUR COMPETITORS ARE ONLY JUST BEGINNING THE PROCESS OF

COMPETING FOR BUSINESS. >> I THINK WE UNDERSTAND THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

IT'S NICE TO HAVE OBJECTIVE NUMBERS TO WORK WITH SO WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS RATIONALLY.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION IF JESSE IS HERE AND I WAS GOING TO ASK THIS, TOO, IN REGARD TO DDT.

I KNOW SOME OF THESE NUMBERS ARE FOR A LATER ITEM AS WELL. IN ITEM NUMBER FIVE WE HAVE SOME TDT DISCUSSION THAT WILL BE COMING FORTH THERE. MY QUESTION IS THIS: WE DO HAVE

TDT HAS BEEN HELD OVER FOR THE CATEGORY 5, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET.

THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS RELATING TO CAT 5 LAST MARCH, I HAD APPROVED EVERY APPROPRIATION REALLOCATION OF THE CATEGORIES RESULTING IN THE BEGINNING BALANCE THIS YEAR OF

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$1,545,937. >> PUTS THAT NUMBER ONE MORE TIME?

>> I'M SORRY. >> 545, 937. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT WAS REALLOCATION SO THAT CAME FROM SOME OTHER CATEGORIES

AND IT HAD PROBABLY SOME MARKETING IN THAT AS WELL. >> PS.IT WAS A REALLOCATION

FROM OTHER CATEGORIES >> OUT OF CURIOSITY COULD THIS BE IN EXCESS COULD BE USED FOR

MARKETING? >> I WILL DEFER TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I DO HAVE LANGUAGE. >> CATEGORY 5 IS ÃCAN FUND A VARIETY OF PROGRAMS.

>> THERE IS MONEY THAT'S ÃIT HAS BEEN HELD THERE FOR A BIT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDER THE MUCH UNDERSTOOD WHAT'S AN OPTION IN MY MIND AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.HANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT.

IT'S VERY HELPFUL. I WILL STOP THERE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS TOO.

$2 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY. JUST RUNNING THE NUMBERS ON THIS IF YOU GO OVER 16 WEEKS, THAT'S $774 PER HOUR OF ADVERTISING OPPORTUNITY. THAT'S A VERY POWERFUL INFLUX.

WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, WHEN IT COMES FOR INTERNAL INVESTMENT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT CAN COME FROM IT. THAT INTO MY QUESTION AT THIS

POINT. COMMISSIONER WALDRON? >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON: THIS ONE IS MORE TOWARDS TARA, YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY I BROUGHT UP ABOUT A LOAN ASPECT OF THIS.

IN THEORY IF THIS ADVERTISING WORKS, WHAT ARE WE ESTIMATED TO GENERATE BED TAX DOLLARS OVER

THE NEXT FIVE MONTHS? >> ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS DISCUSSED YESTERDAY IN THE TDC MEETING WAS FORWARD PROJECTIONS OF REVENUE FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR, 2021.

AND THE THOUGHT OF THE TDC WAS THAT THOSE PROJECTIONS COULD RANGE ANYWHERE FROM $9.9 MILLION TO $11.8 MILLION. $9.9 MILLION WAS THE ACTUAL BED TAX COLLECTIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2000 $1711.8 MILLION WAS THE ACTUAL COLLECTIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2019.

>> WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET BACK OR MAYBE MR. GOLDMAN CAN ANSWER, WE ARE GOING TO SPEND $2 MILLION ON ADVERTISING. ARE WE GOING TO GET THAT KIND OF RATE OF RETURN OVER THE NEXT FIVE MONTHS? GOING INTO THE UNKNOWN THAT WE DISCUSSED YESTERDAY AND ÃONE PARTLY DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE GOVERNOR MIGHT Ã WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WE WILL HAVE ANY OTHER STUFF, AND THAT'S WHY INCREMENTALLY, I AM GLAD YOU HAVE DIFFERENT WEEKS IN THESE THINGS, BUT LIKE I SAID YESTERDAY, I SLOWLY SUPPORT ALL OF THE ONLINE ADVERTISING BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING NOWADAYS. I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU FEEL THAT THE INDUSTRY HAS? 60 PERCENT OCCUPANCY? 50 PERCENT OCCUPANCY? GIVEN THIS TIME WE ARE COMING OUT OF ÃWE ARE KIND OF IN A RECESSION BUT WE ARE ALSO IN SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW THE MINDSET. WHETHER IT'S LACK OF MONEY OR MAYBE THIS IS MORE A MINDSET OF HEALTH AND SAFETY. AND THAT'S THE CONCERN THERE.

>> AND THAT'S A VALID CONCERN AND ONE THAT YOU SHOULD BE CONSIDERING.

OUR PERCEPTION IS THAT IF WE DO NOTHING, WE WILL WIND UP IN A DEEPER HOLE AND THAT THE PROJECTIONS FOR EVEN THE LOW $9 MILLION COLLECTIONS FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR WILL E LOWER.

NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING THAT YOU DO. IT'S BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS WHO WOULD ORDINARILY COME TO US BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING TO THEM ALL OF THE TIME.

LAST YEAR, WE INVESTED ÃTHIS WAS A TIME WHEN WE INVEST IN COMPETING WITH OUR OTHER DESTINATIONS TO BRING PEOPLE HERE. THOSE DESTINATIONS WILL BE SUCCESSFUL IN CONVINCING THEM TO GO TO THOSE OTHER DESTINATIONS.

AND SO WE WILL HAVE THAT BASOPHILS WHO SAY WE HAD SUCH A GREAT TIME WHEN WE VISITED PONTE VEDRE OR CRESCENT BEACH THAT WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK HOME WE ARE GOING TO PLAN A FAMILY VACATION OR A REPEAT OF NEXT YEAR. WE WON'T HAVE TO BASE.

SO WE WILL HAVE LESS MONEY THAN GOING INTO 2021 TO THEN TRY AND CONVINCE THEM TO COME BACK

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WE WILL HAVE LESS OF A BASE TO BUILD ON. WE THINK THAT WITH THIS $2 MILLION, IT GETS US CLOSER TO WHAT WE WERE DOING LAST YEAR AND CLOSER TO COMPETING SUCCESSFULLY WITH THOSE OTHER DESTINATIONS TO MAINTAIN SOME LEVEL.

WHAT I GUESS ÃBE WILLING TO GUESS THAT WE WOULD BE AT 60 PERCENT OF WHAT WE WERE LAST YEAR? THE PROJECTIONS THAT I HAVE SHARED WITH TARA AND HER OFFICE AND MY BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THE TDC IS FOR WITH THE SPEND BEING ABLE TO BE CLOSER TO 10 PERCENT BELOW LAST YEAR'S OCCUPANCY IN THE LAST MONTH OF THE YEAR.

OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. SO SEPTEMBER. SO WE ARE TARGETING A GROWTH TO 10 PERCENT BELOW WHERE HE WORKED THIS TIME LAST YEAR. AND WE WOULD CONSIDER HITTING THOSE WORKS AS A ÃAS A BIG SUCCESS. DOES THAT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION A SECONDARY OUTBREAK AND A SECONDARY LOCKDOWN? IT DOES NOT. IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN WE WOULD SHUT DOWN THE ADVERTISING AND WE SHUT DOWN SPENDING JUST AS WE DID THIS TIME, JUST AS WE DID THIS TIME BEFORE WE KNEW THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE FUNDS. WE DID IT BECAUSE IT WAS THE

RIGHT THING TO DO. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THIS IS MR. BLOCKER.

CAN I WEIGH IN FOR A MOMENT? >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: ABSOLUTELY.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER: THANK YOU. MR. GOLDMAN, I APPRECIATE YOU AND OTHER INDUSTRY LEADERS TALKING ABOUT THIS. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF POINTS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. I THINK RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SOME WAGE EARNERS IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE DEPENDENT ON THIS AND THEY HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS, YOU HAVE A LOT OF FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS SUFFERING AMOUNT THAT ARE DEPENDENT ON THE TOURISM INDUSTRY.

FOR ME, THIS IS AN ECONOMIC ISSUE AND THE NEED TO SUPPORT THE FREE MARKET ECONOMY.

I THINK THERE IS ALWAYS A RISK WHEN YOU TAKE THIS MUCH LANGUAGE IN THIS MUCH MONEY AND INVEST IN THIS BUT THERE ARE LONG-RANGE REASONS WE NEED TO DO THAT.

OUR ECONOMY IS SO DEPENDENT ON TOURISTS THAT WE DON'T HAVE IT. IT'S FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.

SO I APPRECIATE THIS PLAN THAT YOU PUT IN PLACE. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LOT OF HARD WORK AND I AM SUPPORTIVE OF IT. I THINK IT WILL HELP MOVE IT INTO THE RIGHT DIRECTION BUT I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF FAMILIES OUT THERE THAT ARE HURTING AND WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHEN THIS WILL GET BACK BUT I THINK ATTRACTING TOURISTS WHO WANT TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE INSTEAD OF BEING LOCKED DOWN AND COME TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

WE HAVE TO LET THEM KNOW AND WE HAVE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM AND LET THEM KNOW WE ARE OPEN AND WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE AND I THINK YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS.

WHENEVER YOU TAKE MONEY OUT OF RESERVE, THAT'S A TOUGH CALL TO MAKE.

BUT WE DO HAVE MONEY IN RESERVE FOR AN UNPRECEDENTED SITUATIONS AND I WOULD CALL THIS UNPRECEDENTED. BUT I DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND I AM IN SUPPORT

OF IT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IF YOU DON'T MIND, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, WHERE DO YOU STAND TODAY IN REGARD TO YOUR ADVERTISING BUDGET AND MUG MARKETING BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR? IT'S OBVIOUSY DOWN ELECTRIC NUMBERS WISE, WHERE WERE YOU AND WHERE WOULD YOU TODAY.

>> WE HAVE Ã$5,286,000. WE HAVE ÃWE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE COUNTY $3,286,000 SO THAT'S

PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE ARE. WE HAVE GOT Ã >> THAT'S A $2 MILLION SHORTFALL. WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS TO CATCH UP ARE YOU ANTICIPATED TO

BE. >> WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT. WE DO HAVE A TRACK RECORD, SPENDING APPROPRIATELY, OUR RECOVERY FROM MATTHEW AND OUR RECOVERY FROM THE FOLLOWING YEARS. WE KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. AND WE WOULD BE VERY FOCUSED ON

SPENDING THOSE DOLLARS APPROPRIATELY. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: I

APPRECIATE THAT. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS: THANK YOU, MR. JARED. YOU HAVE THE HORSEPOWER TO MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL.OU HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN PLACE AND I SUPPORT THE NEED FOR MARKETING FOR ALL OF THE REASONS THAT YOU STATED. QUESTIONS ARE NOT OUT OF DOUBT. DOES THE EDUCATIONAL BECAUSE I

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THAT'S MONEY THAT TOOK MULTIPLE BOARDS AND THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WILLING TO DO SO, TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. WHEN I TALKED TO OFFICE MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT I FOUND OUT AFTER THE DECISION TO SPEND ÃTO ALLOCATE $22 MILLION, WE ONLY HAVE 68 MILLION AND WHEN I SAY ONLY THAT THE RELATIVELY NUMBER THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE IN GENERAL RESERVES FOR BORROWING ABOUT IMPACTING OUR CREDIT REPORT. 22 MILLION THERE IT ADDS UP VERY FAST FOR SOMETHING THAT TOOK OVER 10 YEARS TO ACQUIRE. I DON'T WANT TO EVEN CONSIDER WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO TO START RAISING TAXES. BECAUSE WE KNOW LONGER HAVE FUNDS RESERVED JAKE BERENT HURRICANE SEASON. EVEN THOUGH THE DATE MAY NOT INDICATE THAT THE STORMS SAY WE ARE. WE KNOW WHAT THAT'S DONE TO OUR BUDGETS AND WHAT WE NEEDED FOR CASH FLOW TO ACQUIRE THE MONEY BACK FROM THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND AM THANKFUL THAT IT'S THERE. I WOULD SUPPORT USING THE MONEY. I WOULD SUPPORT USING A PORTION OF THE $60 MILLION OR CUT THE MUSTARD. BECAUSE THIS IS NEEDED. I LUCKED OUT IN A TINY.

I'M NOT DOUBTING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF ATTRACTING PEOPLE.

WE ONLY HAVE 50 PERCENT CAPACITY ALLOWED, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WE ARE GOING TO GET TO THE NEXT STEP. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S EFFECTIVE AS QUICKLY AS WE ANTICIPATE. YOU ANTICIPATE AND WE'LL ANTICIPATE.

PBECAUSE WE NEED THE MONEY BACK TO GO TO OTHER NEEDS FOR RESERVES.

I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT EVERY HEALTHCARE WORKER IN OUR COMMUNITY AND EVERY FARMER AND THOSE OTHER 40 SOMETHING THOUSAND PEOPLE WHO ARE UNEMPLOYED AND DID NOT RECEIVE PPP FUNDING OR UNEMPLOYMENT AND SAY HANG ON. HELP IS COMING.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERY UNEMPLOYED PERSON CAN FOOD ON THE TABLE TODAY.

NOT THREE MONTHS FROM TODAY. THIS IS MORE A MIDTERM. COME LOOKING FOR IMMEDIATE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT DON'T HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO HELP BREAK DOWN, AND I'M LOOKING IN THE LONG TERM AS WELL. WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS MONEY IS SPENT WHEN WE HAD OTHER RESERVE FUNDS AVAILABLE AND QUALIFIED FOR THESE NEEDS TODAY, AND HOW TO REPLENISH THE MONEY THAT TOOK 10 YEARS TO ACQUIRE WHEN WE MAY OR MAY NOT COME OUT OF THIS IN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 MONTHS DEPENDING ON WHICH MODEL THAT YOU FOLLOW.

I WOULD SUPPORT IT COMING THROUGH ANOTHER SOURCE FOR SOURCE OTHER THAN GENERAL FUND

RESERVES. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: I'M

PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENT >> I SEE NONE.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO TRANSFER 2 MILLION DOLLARS FROM GENERAL FUND RESERVES TO THE TOURISM AGENCIES, TDC AND VCB TO IMPLEMENT THE ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US FOR CONSIDERATION THIS MORNING.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH: HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER DEAN. DRIVE A SECOND?

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. I WILL SECOND THE MOTION

>> ANY DISCUSSION? >> MR. CHAIR, I HAD ASKED REGINA TO DRAFT A MOTION.

IT'S ACTUALLY MUCH IN THE LINE OF COMMISSIONER DEAN'S IT'S GOT A LITTLE MORE DETAIL AND OF COMMISSIONER DEAN WOULD BE INTERESTED WE COULD HAVE REGINA READ THAT TO CONSIDER.

>> WE HAVE A MUSTACHE I HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. COMMISSIONER, THAT YOUR

PREROGATIVE. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH: IS VERY GOOD WE WILL LISTEN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. THE MOTION THAT I'VE DRAFTED WILL READ AS FOLLOWS: MOTION AUTHORIZING THE ALLOCATION OF TAINA MAYA DOLLARS FROM THE RESERVES TO PROVIDE FOR DESTINATION MARKETING TO PROMOTE ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS IN ACCORDANCE WITH A PLAN PRESENTED BY THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY VISITORS AND COMMISSION BUREAU ON MAY 19, 2020 AND AUTHORIZING HOW TO ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE AN AMENDMENT GOVERNING

ADMINISTRATION OF THE FUNDS FOR >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT TO SAY.

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>> WE DO HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A MODIFICATION TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

>> YES, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. ANY DISCUSSION? I WILL SAY THIS.

I WAS IN FAVOR OF USING ÃI AM IN FAVOR OF INVESTING IN THE COMMUNITY AND WANT TO ASK OUR QUESTIONS WE MAKE SURE THAT INVESTMENT IS USED PROPERLY AND FOR THE RIGHT REASONING AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN ADEQUATELY SUBSTANTIATED TODAY. I DO HAVE A DESIRE TO UTILIZE THE TDT FUNDS. THAT'S SOMETHING I HAVE LOOKED INTO AND FELT LIKE THAT'S WHAT IT'S THERE FOR. I WOULD BE MORE IN FAVOR OF THAT THAN VOTING FOR A GENERAL FUND ALLOCATION TO THIS. I WILL NOT VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS, BUT I WILL VOTE FOR UTILIZING THE TDT DOLLARS WITH A BALANCE COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND THAT MAY BE THE CASE. WE WILL SEE HOW IT GOES WITH THAT BOAT AND I AM NOT VOTING AGAINST THE NEED TO PUT MONEY INTO THE INDUSTRY AND FOR MARKETING.

IT'S BECAUSE OF WHERE THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON: I AM KIND OF TORN ON WHICH WAY WE SHOULD TAKE THE MONEY OUT ALSO. ONE THING I WANT TO GUARANTEE IS FROM MR. GOLDMAN AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED, IF WE DON'T SEE IT PERFORMING WHERE WE SEE AN OUTBREAK COMING, WE SHUT IT DOWN AND THE MONEY IS RETURNED TO WHEREVER IT WAS.

AND WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK FORWARD IF WE DO IT OUT OF RESERVE WHAT WE WILL DO WITH THE BED TAX DOLLARS THAT ARE TAXED COLLECTED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR.

COULD WE BUDGET UNDER PRESUMPTION ALL THAT WE WILL HAVE THAT MONEY? I MEAN, THE CONCERN IS THERE IS A LEVEL OF WHAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE WILLING TO TAKE RISK FOR.

REGARDLESS. AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE Ã WHEN YOU LOOK AT NUMBERS 18,000 ARE WE SURE DID THOUSAND ARE NOT IN THE PPP PLAN RIGHT NOW? BUSINESSES STARTING IN JUNE? I SAW AS YESTERDAY FOR RESTAURANTS WANTING TO HIRE PEOPLE AND APPARENTLY THEY ARE NOT COMING BACK AND THEY'RE HAVING TO GO ADVERTISE TO HIRE PEOPLE.

THAT'S A CONCERN IN THE BUSINESS INDUSTRY IS WHETHER YOU ARE GOING TO GET YOUR EMPLOYEES BACK, HANDS DOWN. IT'S HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THEM TO GO BACKWARDS.

DO THEY FEEL SAFE TO GO BACK TO WORK? THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WALDRON. LEGAL?

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND AS WE WILL SEE WHERE THE VOICE GOES ON THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT VERY BRIEFLY GOING BACK TO COMMISSIONER JOHNS. OBVIOUSLY, THE FIRST MATTER YOU HAD THIS MORNING WAS THE EMERGENCY UPDATE AND LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY, AND AS PART OF THAT AS MR. CONRAD HAD MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE GOVERNOR'S ORDERS, THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS, SO-CALLED HOTSPOTS AND THAT TYPE OF THING, AND ANY PLAN THAT THE TDC, VCB PUTS FORWARD WITH THESE FUNDS OR EXISTING FUNDS, ETC., OBVIOUSLY SHOULD TAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION HAND IN HAND, OBVIOUSLY, TO AVOID ADVERTISING TO PLACES WHERE ÃOR AT LEAST CONSIDER MANAGING THAT TO PLACES THAT ARE SORT OF SENSITIVE FOR PEOPLE COMING IN SAFETY WISE.

THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM BOARD MEMBERS? SEE NONE, I WILL NOW CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.

NO. COMMISSIONER WALDRON IS ON YOUR SHOULDERS.

>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON: I FIGURED THAT SO I DON'T WANT KNOW WHY I PASSED THE FIRST TIME. THERE IS NO DOUBT I AM FOR THE ADVERTISING.

IT'S JUST HOW WE WILL GET THE MONEY. I VOTE NO SO WE CAN HAVE MORE

DISCUSSION. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: MOTION FAILS 3 TO 2 VOTE.

WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. LEGAL?

>> MR. CHAIR, I AM AWARE THAT THE BOARD WILL HAVE SOME MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS.

I DID WANT TO MENTION, THOUGH, FOR ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR, I BELIEVE THE BOARD WOULD HAVE A SPECIAL SPEAKER HERE, A DOCTOR HALEY FROM US HEALTH TO TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT PROJECT. YOUR REGULAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT HE WILL NEED TO DEPART AT 11:15 AND HE WOULD PROBABLY NEED FIVE

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INFORMATION IN FRONT OF THE BOARD FOR TIME PURPOSES. >> THANK YOU. WILL ENTERTAIN

A MOTION OR DISCUSSION. >> I HATE TO INTERRUPT A THOUGHT

>> MR. JESSE, WHAT ARE UNRESTRICTED RESERVE FUNDS AT THIS TIME?

>> IN THE GENERAL FUND? SO IN THE GENERAL FUND, FOR EVERYONE HERE, THERE ARE RESTRICTIVE RESERVES ÃAND THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY ALLOCATED FOR CERTAIN ITEMS. AND THEN WE HAVE WHAT IS CALLED A WORKING RESERVE OR WORKING CAPITAL RESERVE.

IT'S ABOUT 60 DAYS OF OPERATING. THAT IS TO THE COMMISSIONERS EARLIER COMMENT, THAT'S ROUGHLY 28.9 MILLION. THAT IS OUR RESPONSE.

THAT IS THE COUNTYWIDE FOR AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE. WE ALLUDED TO OR TALKED ABOUT THE HURRICANE RESPONSE. WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST. THAT IS OUR CASH FLOW IN RESPONSE TO THAT WE HAVE THEM PURSUE THROUGH OUR DISASTER RECOVERY.

BEYOND THAT, THE BOARD APPROPRIATED FOR THIS YEAR, IF YOU RECALL, A ONE PERCENT RESERVE SET ASIDE THAT WAS $1.3 MILLION. AND THEN THE REMAINING UNRESTRICTED RIGHT NOW IS $8.4 MILLION. AGAIN, THERE ARE SOME CHANGES

IN THEIR. >> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER, IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR ÃI CAN CERTAINLY Ã WE CERTAINLY LIKE TO GO INTO HURRICANE SEASON WITH THAT WORKING CAPITAL APPROPRIATION, SO IN TERMS OF WHAT I WOULD SAY ARE YOU ARE UNRESTRICTED FOR CONSIDERATION WOULD BE MET 1.3 FROM THAT ONE PERCENT SET-ASIDE PLUS.

ANYTHING UP TO AND THAT 8.4 RANGE. >> HAVE YOU TRIED TO DO ANY ESTIMATES OF WHAT YOU EXPECT THAT TAX COLLECTION TO BE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS FISCAL

YEAR? >> YES, SIR. YES.

AND I THINK ÃI MEAN, CERTAINLY WE ARE SHOOTING FROM THE HIP ON THIS, OF COURSE.

EARLY ON AND NUMBERS SEEM TO BE IN LINE WITH THAT, BUT MY PROJECTION FOR THIS YEAR WAS 60 PERCENT OF 19'S REVENUE. KEEP GOING BACK TO 19 AS A BASE OF WHAT 19 LOOK LIKE WITH OUR INITIAL PROJECTION WAS 60 PERCENT ON THAT LEVEL. HARD TO SAY SO IT'S ÃSO IT WAS ABOUT ÃSO THE PROJECTION IS ABOUT $7.3 MILLION OVERALL ON THIS.

>> YOU ARE EXPECTING TO COLLECT ABOUT ANOTHER $2 MILLION AND 5.3 WAS COLLECTED TO THE END OF

MARCH. >> THAT'S RIGHT. WHEN WE LOOKED AT MARCH'S NUMBERS MARCH'S NUMBERS IN COMPARISON, JUST MARCH. PMARCH IS WHEN EVERYTHING ÃWE HAD ÃWE HAVE CERTAINLY THE TPC. BUT THEN THAT WAS THE SHUTDOWN WE HAD SPRING BREAK AND THAT WAS THE SHUTDOWN. MARCH WAS THE LAST MONTH OF RECEIPTS WE RECEIVED. 27 COMPARISON AND 19 WAS WE RECEIVED ABOUT 48 PERCENT OF 19'S FOR THAT YEAR. WE CERTAINLY HAD A GOOD YEAR UP UNTIL THAT TIME.

SO 60 PERCENT SEEMS REASONABLE AT THIS POINT. YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY ANYONE'S

GUESS AT THIS POINT. >> AND THAT'S WHY I KEEP GOING BACK TO A LOAN STYLE THING.

AT THE END OF THE YEAR LET'S SAY YOU'RE 60 PERCENT IS RIGHT, THE MONEY WOULD BE COLLECTED BY THE GOVERNMENT 2 MILLION DOLLARS IN ADVERTISEMENT. IF IT'S WRONG, WE ÃMAYBE THE BALANCE WILL BE $500,000 INSTEAD OF RESERVES WE MAY NEED FOR ERIC KANE OR IF SOMETHING

ELSE HAPPENS. >> TO ADD TO THAT, THE 60 PERCENT ANTICIPATES LARGELY SPENDING MUCH OF THAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED 90 TO 100 PERCENT REVENUES AND AS WERE APPROPRIATED FOR THIS YEAR. SO WHEN WE COME IN AT 60 PERCENT, WE ARE SEEING A

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REDUCTION IN THESE SERVICES. >> HAVE WE CUT THOSE SERVICES ENOUGH NOW?

>> YES. WE HAVE PROVED THE BCB CONTRACT PRODUCTION WHICH WAS THE $2

MILLION AND WE HAVE THE CULTURAL COUNSEL >> IN THEORY AT THE END OF THE

YEAR WE COULD HAVE $2 MILLION IN RESERVES >> IN THEORY IF WE DID THAT 60 PERCENT WE WOULD HAVE SOME ANTICIPATED REVENUE RESERVES CARE.

TOO BAD, IF YOU WERE TALKING WE HAVE DONE INTERNAL LOANS OVER THE LAST YEAR.

WE COULD DO IT A MULTIYEAR IF THAT'S A DESIRE, AS WELL. RATHER THAN A SINGLE YEAR.

>> PUTS THE BOARD THINK OF THIS? >> THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD COMPROMISE. I THINK THE 1.3 BILLION WE HAVE IS DISCRETIONARY I THINK WE CAN USE THAT AS A LOAN. [INDISCERNIBLE] THAT'S A COUNTYWIDE PROBLEM. I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF [INDISCERNIBLE] AND THE OTHER

DISCUSSION? >> NO >> I WOULD SUPPORT THAT ALSO AND AT THE END OF THE DAY I THINK WE CAN COME UP WITH A FUNDING STRUCTURE THAT INCORPORATES. AND THEN OTHER PARTS ACROSS THE BOARD RESERVES COME UP WITH THE 2 MILLION AND THEN WHEN THE FUNDS COME BACK AND OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS PURSUE

COMMISSIONER WALDRON'S CONCEPT WITH PUTTING THE MONEY BACK. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> IF I COULD CLARIFY, THAT'S THE 1.3 SET ASIDE FOR THE BOARD FOR DISCRETIONARY SPENDING.

>> OKAY. AND YOU ARE LOOKING TO DO IT AS AN ADVANCE FOR THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT. FOR THAT MONEY TO REPLACE BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND ASSETS

COLLECTED TO COME BACK AND COMMIT >> THAT IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

IT WOULD BE 2 MILLION WITH A PAYBACK PROVISION. >> OKAY.

I THINK I HAVE IT. A MOTION AUTHORIZING THE ADVANCE OF $1.3 MILLION IN GENERAL FUND RESERVES TO PROVIDE FOR DESTINATION MARKETING TO PROMOTE ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS A TOURIST DESTINATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLAN PRESENTED BY THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY VISITORS AND CONVENTION BUREAU ON MAY 19 AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE AN AMENDMENT GOVERNING EXPENDITURE OF THE FUNDS IN PAYBACK FROM TOURIST

DEVELOPMENT REVENUES UPON RECEIPT. >> I BELIEVE THAT IS ALMOST CORRECT. I BELIEVE THE NUMBER WOULD BE 2 MILLION NOT 2.3.

>> DO I HAVE ANYBODY THAT HAS A MOTION? >> YES.

I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION REGINA ROSS JUST GAVE US TO CONSIDER AND I WILL MOVE THAT MOTION

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. YOU HAVE A SECOND?

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER: I'M SORRY.

I THINK WE NEED BEFORE WE REPORT THE MOTION I THINK WE NEED TO PUT TERMS OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR CAN DO THIS BUT WOULD IT BE PRUDENT TO GO AHEAD AND SET A TIMEFRAME FOR REPAYMENT WHETHER IT BE FIVE YEARS OR WHATEVER THE BOARD'S PREFERENCE IS TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT IN THE MOTION IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR CAN WORK FROM THERE WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. I THINK IT'S PRUDENT TO GO AHEAD AND SET A TIMEFRAME

BEFORE WE EXPECT REPAYMENT. >> WILL YOU PROFFER THAT AS A MOTION TO AMEND?

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>> YES, SIR, I WILL. MR. CHAIRMAN ÃTHIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO HAVE A PAYBACK OVER FIVE YEARS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, SECONDED

BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> SHOULD THAT BE CONSTRUED AS NOT TO EXCEED FIVE YEARS OR IT

TAKES THE FULL FIVE YEARS? >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, CAN YOU OFFER CLARIFICATION?

>> I WOULD WANT TO JUST ALLOW A LITTLE BUFFER. >> WE HAVE A MOTION Ã

>> MR. CHAIR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE [INDISCERNIBLE] SO COMMISSIONER DEAN CAN CONSIDER AND MAKE SURE

THAT I'VE CAPTURED EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS >> WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION ON THE FLOOR. SO WE HAVE TWO MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR. IF YOU WANT TO READ BACK WHAT'S THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT AND I LIKE TO DEAL WITH THE FIRST PROCEDURALLY.

>> THIS WILL BE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION. A MOTION AUTHORIZING THE ALLOCATION OF $2 MILLION OF GENERAL FUND RESERVES TO PROVIDE FOR DESTINATION MARKETING TO PROVIDE SAINT JUDE AS A TOURIST DESTINATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLANS PRESENTED BY THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY VISITORS AND CONVENTION 2020 AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE AN EXPENDITURE OF THE FUND AND 40 FUNDS TO BE PAID BACK OVER A

PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS. >> WE HAVE A PROPOSED MOTION. IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO YOU?

AND COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> AS WE ARE MAKING THIS MOTION UP, OF COURSE, WILL BE PAYBACK BE THROUGH THE FULL TOURIST DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS OR SPECIFIC TO APPROPRIATIONS TO CATEGORY

1, WHICH IS VCB? >> GOOD QUESTION. >> WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND?

>> NOW WHO IS PUTTING WHO ON THE SPOT. YOU KNOW WHAT?

THAT WOULD BE ÃTHAT SOMETHING WE COULD BRING BACK, CERTAINLY. >> I WANTED OUT OF COURTESY FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS REQUESTING THE MONEY TO INCLUDE THEM IN THIS CONVERSATION.

IS THIS MOTION ACCEPTABLE TO MEET THEIR NEEDS? >> LET THE RECORD INDICATE MR.

GOLDMAN IS INDICATING YES. >> WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT AND JESSE IS COMING UP WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. DOCTOR HALEY NEEDS TO GO IN NINE MINUTES.

>> WE WILL PUT THAT IN AS ONE THAT'S WHERE THE APPROPRIATIONS WOULD BE GOING.

THAT CATEGORY 1 BCB CONTRACT AND RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TOO HAVE THAT.

ONE IS THE PAYBACK. >> I THINK I WOULD RATHER SEE IT COME BEFORE THE BOARD.

>> PERSONALLY, I WOULD RATHER SEE IT FROM ONE. THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING FOR

MARKETING IN THAT TIME PERIOD. I THINK THERE'S A NEXUS THERE. >> I WILL CALL FOR A VOTE THEN.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THAT WILL BE A FIVE YEAR PAYBACK AT THIS POINT COMING FROM CATEGORY 1.

MOTION AND THAT EMOTION IS INCLUSIVE OF THAT WHICH BASICALLY VOTED ON IT ALREADY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO IT. COMMISSIONER DEAN?

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SEVEN MINUTES AND I APOLOGIZE FOR RUNNING OVER >> SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TODAY, WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT A PROJECT CALLED DURBIN PARK AND FLAGLER HOSPITAL AND UF HEALTH ARE PARTNERING IN THIS AND DOCTOR HALEY IS HERE FROM US HEALTH AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR ALLOWING HIM TO SPEAK BEFORE HE NEEDS TO LEAVE.

WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE THIS ITEM NUMBER 10 BEING PUT IN FRONT OF US SO WE APOLOGIZE.

>> I'M HERE TO BRING MY FULL SUPPORT WE BELIEVE THIS IS AN OUTSTANDING PARTNERSHIP TO REALLY SUPPORT NOT ONLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY PATIENT CARE, PATIENT CARE PROVISION THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT A PARTNERSHIP WITH POTENTIALLY THE YMCA ULTIMATELY A HOSPITAL. AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA WE HAVE STRONG INTEREST IN EDUCATION AND RESEARCH AS WELL. WE WANT TO FURTHER OUR EDUCATIONAL RESEARCH PLATFORMS ARE FROM AN EDUCATIONAL PLATFORM WE HAVE FULL PLANS TO INSTITUTE A FAMILY MEDICINE RESIDENCY. WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ON OUR DOWNTOWN CAMPUS 374 RESIDENTS WERE THE FOURTH-LARGEST TRAINING SITE WITH RESIDENT EDUCATION IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA OUTSIDE OF GAINESVILLE IN TAMPA AND THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE IN THE NEXT STOP FOR ONE OF OUR RESIDENCY PROGRAMS SO THIS WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DEVELOP THE NEXT GENERATION OF HEALTH PROFESSIONALS. WE ALSO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP ON OUR CAMPUS WITH THE COLLEGE OF NURSING AND THE COLLEGE OF PHARMACY FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND SO WHAT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AGAIN FOR US TO PUT NURSING STUDENTS, PHARMACY STUDENTS ON THIS CAMPUS TO CONTINUE TO EDUCATE AND IT AND BE CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND BE THE HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS AT THE NEXT GENERATION. AND THEN FINALLY FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CONTINUE TO FURTHER DEVELOP OUR RESEARCH PORTFOLIO AND TO SUPPORT AND PROVIDE NEW CARE AND NEW OPPORTUNITIES AND NEW INNOVATIONS FOR THE CITIZENSHIP.

ALL THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP AND WHAT A GREAT ACADEMIC PARTNERSHIP AS WELL TO SUPPORT GROWTH IN THIS COUNTY. I HEARD A LONG DISCUSSION AND THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO THINGS AS THEY GROW AND DEVELOP AND UF FACULTY AND NURSING STAFF AND CERTAINLY HUNDREDS OF EMPLOYEES TO SUPPORT THE ECONOMICS OF THIS COUNTY SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND FULL SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.ASON AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR A LONG TIME SO WHAT A GREAT COUNTY. I STILL LIKE IT.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I KNOW YOU KNOW THE MAKEUP OF THE SPORT THAT IF WE ÃWE WILL DEFINITELY OUTPUT FOR STATE REPRESENTATIVE.

IT WILL BE A 4 TO 1 VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I HAD TO JUMP ON A CALL.

>> >> WE WILL FOLLOW WITH JASON GARRETT.

WE WILL LET HIM HAVE HIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TODAY AND GET INTO THE BORING PART.

>> DOES HE HAVE TO GO AS WELL? >> NO. >> GOOD MORNING.

AGAIN, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING WE'VE DISCUSSED PREVIOUS TO THIS.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT I DID PUT IT ON. AS A TEXAS TECH GRAD, A COUPLE OF THINGS, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ÃI WANT TO BEGIN BY RECOGNIZING THE COLLECTIVE

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THERE ARE MANY TO THINK BUT I WANT TO START OFF WITH THANKING YOU EXPRESSLY CERTAINLY DECOMMISSIONED WITH HUNTER CONRAD, JOHN REAGAN, SHARA SURE, CHIEF HARDWICK, AND CERTAINLY DAWN ALLICOCK DOCTOR ALCOTT FOR HER LEADERSHIP DURING THIS PANDEMIC AND I SHOULD SAY THAT THIS PANDEMIC HAS NOT CONCLUDED AND IT'S STILL ONGOING.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE IT'S A PARAGON FOR THE STATE.

AS YOU ARE ALL VERY WELL AWARE. FROM THE STANDPOINT OF MANNING OUR OWN COLLECTION TO ASSIST THE COUNTY WERE RESCREENED OVER 6000 CITIZENS. WE ARE SUBSIDIZING THIS TO $100,000. IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SUPPORT OUR BROADER COMMUNITY.

WE ALSO AS A LARGE PRIVATE EMPLOYER IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE NOT FURLOUGHED ANY PHYSICIANS BECAUSE IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE WE SUPPORT THOSE THAT ARE UNDEREMPLOYED.

NOW, AS I SAID, MUCH OF OUR MISSION IS ABOUT ADVANCING PHYSICAL SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC HEALTH. AND I KNOW I SPEAK FOR DOCTOR HALEY THAT WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE MUCH-NEEDED SERVICES TO GREATER NORTHWEST ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

AGAIN, WE BELIEVE THIS PROJECT CREATES NONSTERILE SUBDIVISION WE WILL TALK MORE DEEPLY ABOUT IT BUT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU ABOUT 1800 EMPLOYEES AS A RESULT OF HER PROJECTS ARE NOT AS GOOD AS I ONCE WAS WITH HER MEMORY WE SAY OVER A FIVE YEAR TIMEFRAME THIS WOULD EMPLOY ANOTHER 1800 EMPLOYEES. OVER AN AGGREGATE IMPACT OVER FIVE YEARS WOULD BE $1 BILLION WORTH OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS A FUNCTION OF THIS PROJECT. SO AGAIN, OUR MISSION ABOUT PROVIDING GREATER CARE IN WORKING WITH ECONOMIC PARTNERS TO CREATE RESEARCH OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE ACADEMIC OPPORTUNITIES, IT'S ALSO TO BOLSTER THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE NEW EMPLOYMENT. OUR EMPLOYMENT IS THE TYPE OF INDUSTRY YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. PLAIN INDUSTRY, HIGH WAGES PHIGHLY EDUCATED WORKFORCE AND WE THINK THIS PARTNERSHIP WILL FOSTER THAT OPPORTUNITY. MUCH LIKE OUR EFFORTS IN ST.

AUGUSTINE WHERE THE GOLF VILLAGE AND NOT A T WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE COMMUNITY GAUGE AND ADVISE SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO FRANCHISE. WE TALKED ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GREATER PARTNERSHIP. AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE OTHER ACADEMIC PARTNERSHIPS WE ARE NOT AT LIBERTY TO SHARE BUT IT WILL CERTAINLY GO AS FAR WE WILL CREATE A SIGNATURE

OFFERING. IN CLOSING, >> I HAVE SEVERAL.

ON ITEM 4. I THINK THAT COVERS IT ALTHOUGH IT'S BEEN A HECTIC WEEK.

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WHAT I HAVE REPORTED. >> I DID HAVE A MEETING WITH ELLEN AVERY SMITH BACK I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE. WE DID DISCUSS THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT PRIOR TO THAT AND I BRIEFLY MET WITH REPRESENTATIVE JASON GARRETT TO DISCUSS THE AND THAT'S ALL I HAD A MEETING JANUARY 23 2020. WE FRANKLY DISCUSS THE ROADS AND TIMING OF THE ROAD.

AND FLAGLER HOSPITAL USE. AND WE DISCUSSED AND THEN THURSDAY, MARCH 26, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING THE ROAD AND I THINK HE WAS IN THAT MEETING.

I DON'T HAVE THE DATE WRITTEN DOWN LAST YEAR WITH JASON GARRETT.

I HAD PHONE CONVERSATIONS WITH NANCY FROM FLAGLER HOSPITAL ABOUT THE PROJECT AND I THINK A COUPLE OF THEM I WAS WRITING YOU DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO WRITE DOWN.

>> ON JANUARY 23 THE ECONOMIC WE TALKED IN GENERAL ABOUT THE NEEDS FOR THE DEGENERATES TO SUPPORT THE HOSPITAL. I HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS WITH STAFF DISCUSSING THE SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED THAT THIS VERSE IS THE MAIN CAMPUS ALSO WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT

THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT IT WOULD SERVE. >> I HAD A MEETING AT FLAGLER HOSPITAL AND I BELIEVE IT WAS 2000 ALONG WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE HOSPITAL AND WE HAD A DISCUSSION OF THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT ON JANUARY 23, 2020 1:00 P.M. I HAD A MEETING WITH ELLEN AVERY PSMITH AND OUR PHONE. WEST PAIN CONTRIBUTION THAT WAS GIVEN IN REGARD TO ROADWAY DISCUSS THE PUD WHERE IT STOOD TO GO WITH TODAY'S ENTITLEMENTS AND WHAT WAS INTENDED TO DO AN INTRODUCTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED IN REGARD TO ROADWAY RESTRICTION. 12:30 P.M. DREW FRICK ELLEN AVERY SMITH AND PAULA SORIANO AND MIKE ROBERTSON. WE DISCUSSED AMENDMENTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WE LOOKED AT THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF IT. AND SCHOOLBOARD PERCEPTION ON

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MAC. >> AND THAT ABOUT COVERS IT. ANYTHING ELSE? SEEING THAT WE WILL NOW GO TO STAFF. MS. BISHOP, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.I AM GOING TO BE PRESENTING ITEMS ONE AND FOUR THAT'S A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE PUD THAT GOES WITH THE DURBIN PARK APPLICATIONS AND THEN ITEMS TO AND THREE ARE ALSO RELATED TO THE APPLICATIONS, AS YOU KNOW,

AND MR. WENDT WILL BE PRESENTING THIS. >> THIS IS THE ADOPTION TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SITE POLICY THAT GOES WITH THE DURBIN PARK DEVELOPMENT.

IT IS A REZONING OF A APPROXIMATELY 1281 ACRES FROM OR TO PUD.

PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF RACETRACK ROAD EAST AND WEST OF I-95.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE THEY ARE MAKING FROM THEIR OWN SITE SPECIFIC POLICY TO PROVIDE FOR HOSPITAL USES REDUCED AND ENHANCED BUFFERING ALONG PEYTON PARKWAY.

SPECIFICALLY Ã30 FOOT SCENIC BADGE WITH AN AVERAGE 50 FOOT PER RESIDENTIAL USES AND RACETRACK ROAD WILL MAINTAIN A 30 FOOT SCENIC BADGE FOR ALL USES.

THE PUD OFFERS FOR 2265 MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS 1.6 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER. 2.2 MILLION SQUARE FEET. THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP SHOW AND THE ZONING IS OR AND THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS PUD.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS. IT WAS DESIGNATED INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL IN 2000. THE URBAN SERVICE AREA WAS CREATED IN 2019.

THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND TAX INCREMENT FINANCING AND ROAD CAPACITY CHARGES WERE APPROVED IN 2015. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS THEN AMENDED IN 2016.

WHICH ALLOWS FOR 999 MULTIFAMILY UNITS. 350 HOTEL ROOMS, 2.7 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE AND 2.3 MILLION OF COMMERCIAL. THE DURBAN PAVILION IS PART OF THAT AND DURBIN PAVILION IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. IT IS DEVELOPING, AND IT ALLOWS UP TO 700 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL WHEREAS ALMOST MOST OF IT HAS BEEN BUILT.

THERE ARE NO NEW IMPACTS AND ITS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AMENDMENT.

ROADWAY AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ARE REQUIRED BY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WATER AND SEWER AND USE IS PROVIDED BY GEAA.

IT IS WITHIN FIVE MILES OF THE FIRE STATION. ONE IS ON THE BOULEVARD AND THE OTHER ONE IS ON RACETRACK VETERANS. THE APPLICANT WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE INTENT TO HAVE A HOSPITAL USED IN A MEDICAL CAMPUS IS ALLOWED WITHIN THE APPROVED IMPROVED URBAN AREA THAT'S WHY THE AMENDMENT WAS BEING MADE IN THE HOSPITAL USES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION.

THE PUD ALLOWS THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WITHIN THE PUD AND ALLOWS FOR NO MINIMUM LOT WIDTH OR AREA FOR RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL. THERE IS A 95 PERCENT IMPERVIOUS SERVICE RATIO FOR NONRESIDENTIAL AND 75 PERCENT FOR RESIDENTIAL.

THERE IS NO MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE FOR THE BUILDINGS AND THERE ARE NO SETBACKS FOR NONRESIDENTIAL THERE ARE SETBACKS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL WHICH IS PLENTY IN THE FRONT, FIVE ON THE SIDE, AND 10 ON THE REAR AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR NONRESIDENTIAL IS 120 FEET, AND FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USES, IT'S 100 FEET. PARKING IS BY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND ALL RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE BUFFERING WILL BE CREATED BY

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THERE ARE 37 WAIVERS WTH THIS PUD. IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF WAIVERS. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED THESE WAIVERS AND ARE NEEDED DUE TO THE TYPE OF THE LARGE-SCALE MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING. THESE WAIVERS MATCH WHAT DURBIN PAVILION HAS SO THEY PRETTY WELL ALL MIRROR EACH OTHER IMAGINE THE WHOLE AREA IS GOING TO HAVE AN URBAN TYPE OF APPEAL IN THE AREA RATHER THAN THE SUBURBAN APPEAL THAT WE SEE A LOT OF IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

STAFF FINDS THE REDUCTION IN THE SCENIC EDGE OF THE ADDITION OF HOSPITAL USE CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA. WE FIND THE REQUESTED WAIVERS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PATTERN IN THE AREA. WE DO FIND WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF 90 THAT CAME THROUGH THERE, DURBIN PAVILION IT'S KIND OF RESULTED IN THIS WHOLE AREA JUST KIND OF HAVING A COMMERCIAL URBAN NODE RIGHT THERE AND THEN IT ALL APPEARS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING ON DECEMBER 3, 2019. MOST RESIDENTS WERE IN FAVOR OF DURBIN PAVILION AND THEY INQUIRED ABOUT THE BUSINESSES THAT MAY BE COMING AND WHAT POTENTIAL JOBS MAY BE COMING INTO THE AREA. THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT MODIFICATION IN A ROAD CAPACITY THAT'S ON ORDNANCE TODAY. THIS CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION THAT I HAVE FOR ITEMS ONE AND FOUR WHICH ARE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION. I WILL TRY TO TAKE ANY

QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR STAFF? COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> NO, SIR. >> THANK YOU. I WILL NOW HEAR FROM MR. GLENN.

GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

FOR THE RECORD PHONG NGUYEN. ITEM NUMBER TWO AND THREE ALSO PART OF THE STURGEON CREEK NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT. I'M GOING TO TRY TO SKIP OVER THE INFORMATION THAT MS. BISHOP HAD PRESENTED ALREADY. SO THIS IS A SECOND OF TWO REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD MARCH 17, 2020. REVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING SPLITTING PHASE 2 INTO TWO PHASES.

PHASE 2 A AND PHASE 2B. IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE FLAGLER HEALTH DEVELOPMENT AND ONLY RESTRICTING THAT TO COINCIDE WITH THE PHASING OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF EAST PEYTON PARKWAY. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE DURBIN CREEK DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND THIS ITEM REQUIRES ACTION FOR TODAY.

YOU HAVE SEEN THE LOCATION OF THE DURBIN CREEK NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT HERE.

THE ESSENTIALLY THE ENTITLEMENTS DOESN'T CHANGE. THIS IS CURRENTLY BEEN APPROVED TO ROUGHLY 2.8 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE. 2.4 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL. 350 HOTEL ROOMS AND 999 APARTMENT UNITS.

A BRIEF BACKGROUND, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED IN 20 FOR YOUR SAFETY PROJECTED ENTITLEMENTS AND ALSO TO PROVIDE TWO REVENUE SOURCES TO REVERSE CONSTRUCTION OF THE IMPROVEMENTS. THIS FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IN PHASE 1 AND WHICH IS NOW CALLED DURBIN PAVILION.

SO THE APPLICATION FOR THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE PROJECTED DEVELOPMENT AND TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION PHASING ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE DURBIN PARK PUD, AND THE SECOND REQUEST IS THAT IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE FLAGLER HEALTH DEVELOPMENT, THE APPLICANT IS

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THE IMPROVEMENT AUTHORITY TO MAKE A STATEMENT 90 EXISTING PHASE BY THE EXISTING PHASE 2 PARTLY NOW COMBINE REPRESENTED ON MARCH 17 INTO PHASE 2 SINCE THEM THEY HAVE SPLIT THAT INTO PHASE 2 A AND PHASE 2B. IN ORDER TO PROVIDE FLAGLER HOSPITAL TO COME IN SOONER WE WOULD LIKE TO SPLIT THE EAST RIVER CONSTRUCTION INTO TWO PHASES THAT WILL TIE INTO TWO PHASE WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS IN PHASE 2 AND WERE GOING TO CONSTRUCT DESIGNS EXPLAIN CONSTRUCT FOUR-LANE LYCC PARKWAY APPROXIMATELY 1000 FEET EAST OF STATE ROAD 90 INCLUDING THE DURBIN LOOP ROAD AWARD IS DEPICTED HERE IN ORDER TO ALLOW FLAGLER HEALTH DEVELOPMENT TO COMMON APPROXIMATELY IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE AND THEN IN PHASE 2B, A SECTION OF THIS FOUR-LANE AND CONNECT IT TO RACETRACK ROAD IN PHASE 3 AND THE PROPOSED PHASE 3 ESSENTIALLY THE SAME. NO CHANGES SINCE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING FOR WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING AS THEY WOULD COME BACK IN PHASE 3 TO EXPAND LYCC PARKWAY IN PHASE 4 NO CHANGES AS WELL WALTER MONDALE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE THE COMMITMENT.

I AM PHASE 4 FOUR-LANE RACETRACK ROAD FROM BOLTON PARK BOULEVARD TO BOSTROM SPRINGS.

SO PART OF OUR REVIEW AS WE SEE THERE'S NO ISSUES RELATING TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

THERE IS NO INCREASE IN THE ENTITLEMENT OF THE SEQUENCING OF ROADWAYS IMPROVEMENTS WILL PROVIDE SUFFICIENT TRAFFIC FLOW AND TRAFFIC CONDITIONS IN THE AREA.

THE PROJECTED TIME ELEMENT IN MITIGATION CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED TODAY. STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE REGARDING TO REQUEST AT THIS TIME. I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH ITEM NUMBER TWO. ITEM NUMBER THREE BASICALLY IS ALSO RELATED ÃWHAT TRIGGERS MOVING INTO PHASE 2B. YOU SEE IN PHASE 2 A WE WOULD ONLY ALLOW THE ENTITLEMENT TO

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THAT'S REASON WHY WE ARE PROPOSING FOR THE CHANGER. PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY REVIEW THIS ITEM ON APRIL 16 AND APPROVED WITH A LOW OF 5 TO 1. WE HAVE TWO CONCERNS.

REGARDING THE COST OF THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND ALSO THE FUTURE COST MAINTENANCE FOR THESE. SO I EXPLAINED THE RATIONALE BEHIND THE FOR THE REQUEST AND AS YOU CAN SEE HER IN THE ROAD CAPACITY CHARGE, IF YOU COMPARE BETWEEN THE APPROVED ROAD CAPACITY CHART SAY THEY PROPOSE AND YOU LOOK AT EACH ITEM YOU CAN SEE THE ADDITION OF THE HOSPITAL BEING PROPOSED AND ACTION IN THE OFFICE SPACE FROM 2.7 OR 8 MILLION TO ABOUT 2.3 SQUARE FEET AND THE INCREASE IN THE APARTMENT NUMBER OF UNITS FROM 999 TO 2265.

AND THOSE ARE THE CHANGES REFLECTED IN THE ROAD FOR CASSIDY CHARGE ORDINANCE.

AND WE FIND THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION TO THE DURBIN CREEK DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WE HAVE NO CORRESPONDING PHONE CALLS FOR OBJECTON OR APPROVAL AND WE FIND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT OF THE CHARGE ORDINANCE IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERALL INTENT ABOUT THE DURBIN CREEK NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND WITH THAT, I CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION AND I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. WE MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

COMMISSIONER JOHNS. YOU MENTIONED SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WAY, DOES THE TIF ONLY PROVIDE FUNDING FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR OPERATION

MAINTENANCE? >> TWO REVENUE SET UP ONLY FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF CONSTRUCTION DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR MAINTENANCE. PLUS MAINTENANCE WOULD BE

FUNDED THROUGH A GTF? >> TYPICAL REVENUE SOURCES, YES.

>> IS THERE AN ANALYSIS OF THE ANTICIPATED REVENUE VERSUS THE NEED FOR COST OF MAINTENANCE?

WE HAVE NOT ANALYZED BACK HERE >> I WENT BACK AND FOUND IT. IF YOU GO BACK A COUPLE OF

SLIDES. >> ON THE ROAD CAPACITY CHARGE? >> YES.

GO FORWARD. ANYWAY. IT SAYS FOR PURPOSE OF THIS AGREEMENT WILL HOSPITAL THAT IS EQUAL TO 2500 SQUARE FEET. HOW DID WE COME UP WITH

DOCUMENT THAT FIGURE WORD CALCULATION? >> WE BASE BACK ON IT RECOMMEDATION AND WE LOOK TOWARD THE APPLICANTS TO PROPOSE THAT AS WELL.

THEY ARE CONSISTENTLY WITH ROUGHLY RELATED TO THE >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING THAT WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING, MR. KUMAR. THANK YOU FOR INDULGING CHANGES OF THE ORDER TODAY IN A

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AGAIN, WE HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOSPITAL SO THAT'S WHERE ÃTHE CORNERSTONE OF THIS PORTION WILL BE AND WE ARE FILLING AND STUFF ALSO MUCH-NEEDED MULTIFAMILY NUMBER TWO POINT SUCH AS DEPARTMENTS CATER TO BE TOWNHOMES AS WELL THERE WILL BE ONLY MULTIFAMILY NO SINGLE-FAMILY WITHIN THE PROJECT. TO TALK ABOUT THE ÃI WILL BELABOR IT BUT DURBIN PARK IS ALREADY IN INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2000. BACK IN 2015 YOU GRANTED THE TIF OVER THE ENTIRE ÃSO NOBODY IS GETTING OFF THE PROPANE ROAD. SO FAR THE PROJECT HAS BEEN REZONED TO PUD AND RECALL THAT PHASE 1 A AT THE TIME ALEX KNOWN AS THE DURBIN PAVILION INCLUDES ABOUT 700,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL ORGAN 600,000 FEET OF SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS. DEDICATED COMMISSIONER WALDRON ALWAYS HAS ME ON THAT.

THE PLAY WAS GOING TO CONTINUE INTO THE PROPERTY. THIS BOARD ADOPTED A LAND-USE MEMO SEEKING TO ADD THAT REDUCED TO A MINIMUM OF 30 FOOT AVERAGE WE ARE RESPECTING THE EDGE SIMILAR TO WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. THAT'S THE GIST OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THE PUD MS. BISHOP WENT OVER A LOT OF THIS AND IT WILL INCLUDE ON THE SIDE OF NINE BE ABOUT 1.7 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL, 2.3 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE WHICH WILL INCLUDE 340,000 SQUARE FEET AND WILL BE PART OF FLAGLER HOSPITALS CAMPUS. IT WILL INCLUDE THE 375,000 SQUARE FEET OF FLAGLER HOSPITAL SPACE WHICH TO ANSWER YOUR ÃWE STARTED OUT CALLING THESE BEDS AND THEN CHANGED TO SQUARE FOOTAGE AND HALFWAY THROUGH THE PROCESS SO THAT'S WHY THE NOTE IS IN THE TEXT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IT USED TO BE WHEN YOU HAD A DRI YOU HAD A BAD YEAR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND YOUR IMPACT FEE SCHEDULE SO WE CONVERTED THE USE TO SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND THEN 2265 DWELLING UNITS MULTIFAMILY HERE IS THE PHASING REST IN THE PUD AND IT MATCHES THE PHASING IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT MR. NEWMAN JUST WENT OVER WITH YOU. YOU WILL SEE THE ENTITLEMENTS ARE PHASED THROUGHOUT THE THREE PHASES OF THE PROJECT AND HERE IS THE ESTIMATED TIMELINE FOR GETTING ALL OF THIS DONE.

AND THEN JUST A LITTLE BIT OF COLOR FOR FUN SO YOU HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN HERE IS FLAGLER HOSPITAL SITE. PSO AGAIN, GOING TO THE OVERALL PICTURE OF HOW ALL OF THESE FIT TOGETHER, YOU HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN WAS PEYTON PARKWAY CONSTRUCTED.

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THE EXISTING TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION, UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS $31 MILLION PROPOSING TO BUMP THAT UP TO 32 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS THROUGH THESE CHANGES.

THAT IS IN ADDITION TO THOSE DOLLARS, THERE IS A TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICT BACK WOULD BRING IN ANOTHER 36 MILLION. SO YOU HAVE PART OF THE, PART OF THIS OBLIGATION PAID AND ROAD CAPACITY CHARGES WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT A MINUTE AGO AND ABOUT HALF OF IT REIMBURSED FROM A TRANSPORTATION IMPACT DISTRICT THAT IS FUNDED SOLELY THROUGH PROPERTY TAXES WITHIN DURBIN PARK'S. AGAIN MR. NEWMAN EXPLAINED TO YOU THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE PHASING IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE ESTIMATED COST AGAIN FOR THE EXISTING WOULD BE ABOUT 58 1/2 MILLION.

IF THE DOT BUILT A BRIDGE OVER I-95 IF DURBIN BUILDS THE BRIDGE OVER I-95, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $62 MILLION. AND THAT'S WHAT THE ESTIMATED COSTS ARE.

THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY UNDER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THEY WILL INCLUDE TO CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT ROADS AS THEY ARE NEEDED BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS SET FORTH IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IF NO ROAD GETS BUILT NO DEVELOPMENT IS PUT FORWARD.

THAT IS YOUR CONTROL OVER TRAFFIC TICKETS PUT ON THE ROADWAY.

WE APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO US AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SEEING NONE WE WILL GO ÃWE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 1, 2, THREE, AND FOUR. WILL GIVE IT A SECOND TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANYBODY ON THE PHONES.

I SEE NO PUBLIC COMMENT >> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT NOW CLOSED WE ARE BACK TO THE

BOARD. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION >> I MAKE A MOTION.

2020 Ã18. APPROVING THE ADOPTION OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT

2019 Ã05 DURBIN PARK SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS OF FACT. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JONES, DRIVE SECOND. HAVE A COMMAND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON. ANY DISCUSSION? WE WILL NOW PROCEED WITH A ROLLED BOAT.

>> A MOTION TO APPROVE DURBIN CREEK NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT MODIFICATION 2019 Ã 01 FINDING THE PROPOSED PMODIFICATION CONSISTENT WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

ACCORDING TO THE RED FOLDER DIED AND WE RECEIVED >> I HAVE A MOTION BY

COMMISSIONER JOHNS. YOU HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND

>> A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER DEAN?

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ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. >> HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOHNS. YOU HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NO DISCUSSION WE WILL PROCEED WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE.

IT PASSES 5 TO 0. >> A MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2020 Ã20 PUD 2019 Ã12 DURBIN PARK SUBJECT TO NINE FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED BY THE STAFF REPORT.

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOHNS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE WILL PROCEED

WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE. >> COMMISCONGRATULATIONS. WE ARE GOING TO DO ÃLET'S DO THIS.

IT'S A LITTLE BEFORE 12. WE HAVE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. LET'S HEAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND MR. DUNN WILL COME FORWARD AND AFTER THIS WE WILL TAKE A BREAK, A MINIMUM OF 45 MINUTES.

WE HAVE SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ACCOMPLISHED AND DONE SO WE WILL PROCEED WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE THAT ARE HERE AND THOSE THAT HAVE COME AGENDA ITEM SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT AND NINE COMMISSIONERS,

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>> IS TO PROVIDE LITTLE INFORMATION ON THIS ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS CSR IN BACKGROUND.

ON MARCH 19 -- THIS IS 2019, THE BCC AUTHORIZE THE SEMBLANCE OF A -- TO PREPARE FINANCING DOCUMENTS UP TO $32.6 MILLION. THIS WAS FOR TWO PROJECTS AT THE TIME.

THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS STORE MANAGEMENT PROJECT WHICH IS KNOWN AS CSR M AND THE RESTORATION PROJECT. ON MARCH 3 OF THIS YEAR, THE BCC AUTHORIZED THE COUNTIES FINANCIAL ADVISOR FINANCIAL ADVISORS LLC TO ISSUE AN RFP TO BORROW UP TO $22 MILLION.

THAT WOULD BE THE FOR THE NONFEDERAL SHARE OF THIS PROJECT.

NOW, THAT'S BEING BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY. WE WILL OUTLINE NOT.

THE COMMISSIONER -- COMMISSION WOULD BORROW A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OUTLINED WITHIN THE FORCE COMING ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS LETTER THAT WOULD OUTLINE THE NONFEDERAL SHARE AMOUNT.

AS WE SPOKE ABOUT IN MARCH A $500,000 CONTINGENCY TOWARD THE PROJECT.

FUNDING TIMELINE IS MARCH 3 OF THIS YEAR AS THE -- YOU CAN SEE THE RFP PROCESS.

APRIL 9 WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING TO REVIEW THE BARRING -- THE RFP RESPONSES ISSUED BY PFM.

ON MAY 19, TODAY, IS WHERE WE ARE. MOVING FORWARD, IF THE BOARD APPROVES THIS MAY 27, THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS ANTICIPATED TO RECEIVE THEIR BID PROPOSALS AT WHICH TIME THEREAFTER FROM A LETTER FROM THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, WE WOULD THEN BORROWER GO TO CLOSING THE CHAIR WOULD GO TO CLOSING ON THAT THAT BORROWING, DEBT FINANCING. SO REVIEWING THE SOLICITATION OF PFM, APRIL 3, 2020, THE RESPONSES WERE DUE ON THE RFP. BANK OF AMERICA AND STERLING NATIONAL APRIL 9, WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING, BELIEVE IT WAS A ZOOM MEETING TO DISCUSS RESPONSES FROM THE SOLICITATION. BANK OF AMERICA PROVIDED THE PREFERRED TERMS INCLUDING A 2.19 PERCENT INDICATIVE TAXABLE INTEREST RATE. ON OR ABOUT 10 ONE, 21, THAT

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WE WON'T KNOW WHAT THE BORROWING WILL BE ON THE NONFEDERAL SHARE UNTIL WE RECEIVE THAT LETTER FROM THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.

IT'S A MAXIMUM AMOUNT IS $22 MILLION. AND THE DEBT SERVICE THAT WE KNOW 120 AND 21, LARGELY DUE TO THE WAY WE WOULD STRUCTURE THIS IS GOING TO REMAIN AT ABOUT $700,000 AND APPROXIMATELY $1 MILLION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2021.

THERE ARE TWO OTHER ROWS HERE AND THESE RELATE TO WHAT ARE F DEP FUNDING OR GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. ONE IS THE FEDEP BEACH MANAGEMENT FUNDING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT IS PENDING CURRENT LEGISLATION. SPENT THROUGH THE SENATE.

IT IS AWAITING THE GOVERNOR'S SIGNATURE AT THIS TIME. THAT IS A THAT IS A 7,077,800 $34,000 PROGRAM THAT IF WE APPLIED TO THIS, AGAIN, THE DEBT SERVICE WOULD REMAIN THE SAME THE FIRST TWO YEARS BUT AS WE APPLY THE LAST 10 YEARS OF THIS 12 YEAR IT WOULD REDUCE THE DEBT FROM 2.4 MILLION DOWN TO $1.6 MILLION. AS WELL THERE AS THE FDEP HURRICANE MATTHEW FUNDING THAT WAS APPROVED IN 17. IT'S BEEN ADDED TO IT.

IT'S BEEN UP TO 10,000,004 68 835. IT IS LARGELY ASSOCIATED WITH THE STATE DUNE RESTORATION PROJECT. THAT IS STILL OUTSTANDING AS THE ANTICIPATED APPLICATION OF THOSE GRANT DOLLARS WILL ALSO BE APPLIED TO THIS PROGRAM AS WELL. ANTICIPATED RIGHT NOW IS $3 MILLION.

THE DEBT SERVICE FOR 2021 REMAIN THE SAME BASED ON HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULING.

IT WOULD NOT BE UNTIL WE GET INTO THE -- THE OUT YEARS OR WE CAN SEE AGAIN, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE THE DEBT SERVICE. DEPENDING ON THE OPPORTUNITIES, THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE BEGINNING IN 20, 22 COULD DECREASE FROM MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 2.4 TO 1.621.3. LOOKING AT THE CAPACITY TO PAY DEBT SERVICE ONE IS THE FISCAL YEAR 20 AND 21. AND THEN AS WE MOVE INTO THE OUT YEARS THE FDEP OPPORTUNITIES ARISE. AS WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER, RELATING TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 THAT WE HAD EARLIER WITH THE BOARDS ORDINANCE LAST MARCH, THE BEGINNING BALANCE IN CAT5 WAS $1.5 MILLION. AND SO AS WE MOVE INTO FISCAL YEAR 20, WE ARE ANTICIPATING -- AND THIS WAS AGAIN AT THE 60 PERCENT TDT DOLLARS FOR THIS YEAR AS I SPOKE OF EARLIER.

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BASED ON THE 73. WE HAVE ALREADY EXPENSED $1.1 MILLION AS PART OF THE MARCH, 2020 AGENDA ITEM, ONE OF THE MOTIONS WAS TO PAY THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS RELATED TO THE PPA, $1.1 MILLION. AND THEN WHAT I'VE DONE IS APPLIED TENTATIVE DEBT SERVICE.

I MENTIONED THE 700,000 AND $1 MILLION IN THIS KIND OF CASH FLOW HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THE END OF 2020 WE HAVE ABOUT $1 MILLION. MY ANTICIPATED (ROLL CALL) REVENUES IS THAT 80 PERCENT OF WHAT WE ARE CALLING A BASE YEAR OF FISCAL YEAR 19 FISCAL 19 BEING HER LAST YEAR OF REALLY MORE OBVIOUS TOURIST BEHAVIORS. SO FOR FISCAL YEAR 21 IN THIS BUDGET PROCESS, WE ARE ANTICIPATING 80 PERCENT OF THAT.

THAT GENERATES FOUR CAT5 $1.7 MILLION. THERE MAY BE SOME MINOR EXPENDITURES THAT WOULD REFLECT YOUR RELATING TO REQUIREMENTS PER THE FDEP PERMITTING.

SO THERE ARE SOME SMALL COSTS THAT MAY ARISE THROUGH THIS. AND EVEN WITH THE TENTATIVE DEBT OF THE $1 MILLION, THERE IS STILL SOME CUMULATIVE ENDING BALANCE.

SO THE SHORT ANSWER AND IS IN TERMS OF THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF THE DEBT CONSIDERATION IS THAT THE (ROLL CALL) FUND CAT5 HAS THE ABILITY TO PAY THE DEBT IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS.

LOOKING NOW AT THE (ROLL CALL) CAPACITY TO PAY DEBT IN 22 TO 31, DEPENDING UPON -- THIS IS REALLY JUST BRINGING BACK INFORMATION OF ALREADY PRESENTED.

DEPENDING UPON THE FDEP OPPORTUNITIES, OR DEBT SERVICE COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 1.3 UP TO $2.4 MILLION. WHAT I HAVE SHOWN HERE IS KIND OF A MENU, IF YOU WILL, OF WHERE OUR REVENUES WERE IN 19, 2.1 AND WE ARE AND WHAT I DID IS I TOOK 10 PERCENT REDUCTION IN REDUCTIVE INCREMENTS AGAIN, 19 IS OUR BASE YEAR. AND IT COMES DOWN TO A LEVEL OF COMFORT AS TO WHERE WE ANTICIPATE AGAIN, OUR TOURS AND BEHAVIORS TO COME BACK IN.

FOR INSTANCE, IF -- AND THIS IS FOR FISCAL YEAR 22 THROUGH 31. IF WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT OUR 19 -- THAT OUR 22 REVENUES ARE ROUGHLY 90 PERCENT OF 19 -- 19 BEING OUR BASE YEAR, WE WOULD BE BRINGING IN 1.9 MILLION. 80 PERCENT WOULD BE BRINGING THEM 1.7, ETC. HERE IS 100 PERCENT WOULD BRING IN. AND THEN WHEN YOU GO INTO SOME OF THESE -- I TOOK THE LAST THREE FISCAL YEARS OF TDT GROWTH, WHICH DOESN'T -- IT DOESN'T REALLY INCREASE AT A SPECIFIC -- AS A PERCENTAGE. IT WAS 1/8 OF 12 PERCENT. I DID A ONE PERCENT OR 108 PERCENT AND A 112 PERCENT. THESE WOULD BE THE ANNUAL GENERATED, EACH ANNUAL GENERATED CAT5 APPROPRIATION. SO LET'S TAKE THE MIDDLE FIGURE HERE.

WE CAN START WITH THE $2.4 MILLION. IF THE DEBT SERVICES AT THE MAXIMUM $22 MILLION AND THE FDEP OPPORTUNITIES DO NOT ARISE, ONE OF THEM IS APPROVED.

BUT FOR SOME REASON THAT IS NOT APPLIED TOWARD THAT, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE WOULD NEED ABOUT A 12 PERCENT GROWTH ON AVERAGE BASED ON 19 REVENUE TO COVER THAT DEBT SERVICE USING CAT5 TOURISM DOLLARS. CERTAINLY, I'LL USE THE 1.6 IF SOME OF THAT OPPORTUNITY ARISES AT $1.6 MILLION A YEAR, WE WOULD NEED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 70 AND 80 PERCENT OF THAT BASE YEAR FY 19 REVENUE IN ORDER TO SERVICE THAT DEBT SERVICE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

IF THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT CAT5 DOLLARS ARE SHORT ONE YEAR, AGAIN, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS AWARE WE PAY OUR DEBT. WE WILL NOT DEFAULT ON THE DEBT. DEFAULT IS TO THE GENERAL FUND ON THIS THERE ARE OTHER

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THE BOARD COULD CONSIDER ON A PARTICULAR YEAR BECAUSE THE BOARD HAS TO ESTABLISH A MILLAGE EACH YEAR. THEY CANNOT COMMIT FUTURE BOARDS TO MILLAGE BUT THEY COULD CERTAINLY LOOK EACH YEAR AT THE MILLAGE. SO CERTAINLY SOME OPTIONS THERE. AND WITH THAT I'M GOING TO OPEN UP FOR MOTION.

AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW. I'M CERTAINLY AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

I'M NOT SURE HOW IT ALL AFFECTS BY J GLOVER FROM PFM M IS ON THE PHONE.

MILLER FROM MGN WHO IS HER BOUND COUNSEL, WE HAVE STAFF HERE WITH JOE JIM MUNGO AND DAMON DOUGLAS AS WELL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: MR. GLOVER, ARE YOU THERE?

>> I'M HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: I CAN. MR. MILLER, ARE YOU THERE?

>> YES. I CAN.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WITH WE HAD QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FOR THE BOARD? SEE NONE, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>>MR. BLOCKER: NO, SIR. >>CHAIRMAN SMITH: COMMISSIONER

WALDRON. >>MR. WALDRON: PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. ARMY CORE BOND ISSUE. CHAIRMAN I DO NOT SEE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE WILL TAKE IT TO THE BOARD AND HAVE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER DEAN? (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> AND SERIES 2020 B AND THEN AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $22 MILLION.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> ALL SECOND, MR. BLOCKER. >> I HAVE A SECOND BY MR. BLOCKER. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE WILL GO THROUGH A ROLL CALL VOTE.

(ROLL CALL). >>CHAIRMAN SMITH: IT PASSES 3-2. CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

>> EXCUSE ME. IF I MAY INDULGE JUST ABOUT NO MORE THAN A MINUTE AND 1/2? I WOULD LIKE TO -- THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT IS INDIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED. AND I'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY A NUMBER OF CONSTITUENTS PROPOSING A QUESTION AND I'D LIKE TO BRING IT UP NOW, IF I MAY.

IT INVOLVES -- THE QUESTION IS THIS: THERE HAVE BEEN SOME QUANDARY IN THE PAST AND I'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH MR. DUNN THAT LAST YEAR WE HAD A DISCUSSION DURING OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS WHERE I HAD DISCUSSED AND MADE A COMMENT THAT WE WOULD HAVE MONEY FROM CAT5, FROM THE TAX CAT5, THAT WOULD BE OVER AND ABOVE THE BALANCE THAT WOULD BE COMMITTED TO THIS ITEM. IT WOULD GO TOWARD THE PONTE VEDRA BEACH PROJECT, WHICH IS JUST STARTING THE ANALYSIS, FEASIBILITY STUDY ENGINEERING STUDY.

WE DISCUSSED $500,000. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A FORMAL COMMITMENT TO THIS BOARD OR VOTE BASED ON MY DISCUSSION. AND AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO EITHER THROUGH CONSENSUS OR A VOTE, WHICH WOULD BE BASICALLY THAT THIS BOARD IS COMMITTED TO UP TO $500,000 OF CAT5 MONEY IF AVAILABLE AFTER WE PAY THE DEBT SERVICE ON THE BEACH NOURISHMENT PROJECT WHICH WE JUST VOTED ON. AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OR AGREEMENT FROM THE BOARD THAT THAT CAT5 MONEY WOULD BE AVAILABLE NOT TO EXCEED 500,000, WHICH WOULD GO

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LIKE TO PROPOSE A MOTION. >>CHAIRMAN SMITH: YOU CAN PROPOSE A MOTION. I THINK IT HAS BEEN PROPOSED. IS THERE A SECOND?

>>MR. BLOCKER: THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. I WILL SECOND.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND SECOND BY MR. BLOCKER ANY

COMMENTS? >>CHAIRMAN SMITH: I HAVE SOME THINGS, TOO. GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

>>MR. WALDRON: IS THERE ÃBUT DO WE HAVE THE FUNDS OF CAT5 TO COVER WHAT WE JUST VOTED TO

SPEND NEXT YEAR AND THIS 500? >> A LOOKING AT THIS I'M NOT

TALK ABOUT PROJECTED -- >> I UNDERSTAND.

I THINK RIGHT NOW WHAT I HEARD EARLIER IS 1.5 QUICK SO ACTUALLY, AS OF TODAY, TOURIST DEVELOPMENT, WE HAD A BEGINNING BALANCE OF 15. WE PAID OUT ARMY CORE 1.1 MILLION. SO WE ARE 400. ABOUT 860.

WE ARE AT 1.2. >> WE ARE AT 1.2?

>> YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> ALTHOUGH IT'S A RELATED MATTER THINK IT'S A SEPARATE MATTER IS AGENDA FIVE.

I WOULD RECOMMEND OPENING THAT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL.

>> WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON COMMISSIONER DEAN'S MOTION.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: IS ANYBODY ON THE PHONE?

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I WILL CALL FOR A VOTE THEN.

UNTRAN10Á(ROLL CALL). >>CHAIRMAN SMITH: IMA KNOW AS WELL. -- I AM A NO AS WELL. IT PASSES THREE HAVE THREE-2.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: IT IS NOW 12:15 PM. WE WILL RECESS THIS MEETING WITH THE INTENT T

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>> STAFF REVIEW SHOWS A SIMILAR ZONING WAS APPROVED FOR THE ADJOINING LOTS TO THE WEST.

THIS REQUEST WAS TO REZONE LOT 16, 17 AND 18 TO RS-THREE TO ALLOW FOR THREE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE REGULAR SUBDIVISION PROVIDING A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF THE USES. MOST OF THE LOTS ARE ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL USES.

A LARGE MAJORITY OF LOTS ARE MADE UP OF RESIDENTIAL USES. THE AREA WAS REZONED.

AS SUBMITTED RS-THREE ZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USE PROPOSED.

THIS REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN AN AREA WITH OTHER LOTS. IF IT WAS APPROVED, IT WOULD ELIMINATE ALL THE COMMERCIAL USES ALLOWED IN CG ZONING. THIS ITEM WAS HEARD BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY ON APRIL 16. MEMBERS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AND THERE WAS NO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THAT TIME. SINCE THE WRITING OF THIS REPORT STAFF HAS RECEIVED TWO EMAILS REGARDING THIS REQUEST AND THERE WAS NO OBJECTION. THE SECOND OBJECT TO THE REZONING A SIGHTING OF NEED FOR COMMERCIAL USES IN THE AREA AND THEY ALSO CITE THAT VACATION RENTALS AMONG NEWLY CONSTRUCTED HOMES SEEM TO BE TURNING INTO A PROBLEM IN THAT AREA.

OVERALL, STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUEST MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND IS PROVIDED FINDINGS TO APPROVAL IN FIVE OR DENIAL. THIS CONCLUDES THE APPLICATION.

STAFF WILL CALL IN ON THE PHONE WHICH SHOWS AN OVERVIEW OF THE FLOOR PLAN AND ALSO -- STAFF

WILL STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS. >>CHAIRMAN SMITH: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEE NONE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

>> BILL MILLER 288 DE SOTO ROAD ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: OKAY. ARE YOU TALKING DIRECTLY TO YOUR PHONE?

IT'S A LITTLE MURKY. >> YES, SIR.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: OKAY. PLEASE, GO AHEAD.

>> YES. WE ARE ASKING FOR THE REZONE TO BUILD THREE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AS MENTIONED. PREVIOUSLY, WE HAD DONE THAT ON THE FIRST SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY. TWO OF THE HOMES WERE BOUGHT AS PRIMARY RESIDENCE AND ONE TURNED INTO A VACATION RENTAL. THE OTHER TWO THAT WE REZONED BOTH GOT USED AS PRIMARY RESIDENCE. THAT MEANS FOUR OUT OF THE FIVE ARE USED AS PRIMARY RESIDENCE

AND THAT WOULD BE OUR INTENT. >>CHAIRMAN SMITH: OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING MORE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?

>> I LOOK FORWARD TO -- (INDISCERNIBLE).

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY FOR THE RECORD, FOR THE APPLICANT SPEAKER ON THE PHONE I THINK THE BOARD GENERALLY HEARD YOUR COMMENTS, BUT CAN YOU CONFIRM IS THIS MR. STEVE

CONTACT OR WHO IS SPEAKING? >> THIS IS BILL MILLER.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: >> COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME

FOR THE -- ONE MORE TIME. >> BILL MILLER ON BEHALF OF THE

APPLICANT. >>CHAIRMAN SMITH: OKAY.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: THANK YOU, MR. MILLER. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MILLER? SEEING NONE, WE WILL GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT. COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

>>MR. WALDRON: PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX.

>> I SEE NO PUBLIC COMMENT. WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD. COMMISSIONER WALDRON, THIS IS

YOUR DISTRICT. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> I CERTAINLY WANT TO DEFER WITH RESPECT TO THE MOTION. I JUST WANT TO SAY I LIVED IN

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THERE ARE A FEW LITTLE OUTPOSTS IF YOU WILL, IN FACT, DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THIS PARCEL IS PALMETTO AND ACROSS THE STREET IS WHERE I BOUGHT MY BICYCLE.

>> MY BLUE BICYCLE. >> ORANGE TRIM?

>> NO ORANGE. YOU MISSED THE STORY.

>> MOTION TO ENACT 2021. THE REQUEST TO ZONE APPROXIMATE 2021.

THE REQUEST TO ZONE APPROXIMATE 7.4 ACRES OF LAND FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO SINGLE-FAMILY RS THREE BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN.

ANY DISCUSSION? I WILL PROCEED THE ROLL CALL VOTE.

CUSTOMÁ (ROLL CALL) .

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>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: I HAVE KNOWN AS WELL. GIVE ME A MOMENT NOW SWAP OVER ON MY BOOK. THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

>> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN REZONING APPLICATION 2020 -3. FLAGLER BOULEVARD.

IT'S UNDEVELOPED JUST NORTH OF CHASE WOULD DRIVE. THE REQUEST IS REZONED APPROXIMATELY 3.7 ACRES OF OPEN RURAL LAND TO INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO ALLOW FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL USES. IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AS INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE. INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE IS USED FOR STORAGE WAREHOUSE AND AUTOMOTIVE SHOP. TO THE EAST THE PROPERTY IS RESIDENTIAL. THE SOUTH PROPERTY IS OWNED OPEN RURAL AND IT WILL BE A FUTURE RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE REQUEST PROPERTY IS OWNED -- 'S DWELLING UNITS WITH MULTIFAMILY AS WELL AS HUNDRED -- HUNDRED 50'S FEET OF COMMERCIAL.

FIGURE 1 SHOWS -- BY REZONING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WILL USE AGRICULTURAL AND INSTITUTIONAL, BUT GAIN REGIONAL BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS GENERAL BUSINESS OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL AND HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL. IT SHOULD BE COMPATIBLE TO SURROUNDING AREA. WITH PROPERTIES ALONG THE MIXED-USE CORRIDOR.

THE DESIGN WOULD APPLY IN THAT COMPATIBLE BUFFER MAY BE REQUIRED.

STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE OR PHONE CALLS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY.

HE NO PUBLIC COMMENT WAS PROVIDED. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE. STAFF HAS PROVIDED FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I WILL STAND BY FOR ANY

QUESTIONS. >>CHAIRMAN SMITH: QUESTIONS FOR

STAFF? >> I HAVE QUESTIONS.

ABOUT THE SOUTHERN PIECE THAT IS A RIGHT-OF-WAY.

>> FUTURE RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> FUTURE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

WAS RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> THE COUNTIES.

>> THANK YOU. I'LL NOW HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

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>> THAT WAS A TOUGH POINT. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. KAREN DAILY ÃTAYLOR. MY CLIENT PAUL CATENA'S WAS NOT HERE. HE'S IN SOUTH FLORIDA. ANYWAY, I AM HERE.

SHE WENT THROUGH THE DIFFERENT THINGS BUT ONE THING TO POINT OUT, THIS IS AN OVERALL LOCATION, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. YOU CAN SEE HOW IT RELATES TO THE AREA AROUND IT. IT'S A LITTLE CLOSER. THAT LINE THAT'S COMING UP THERE IS THE 315 EXTENSION THAT IS NOW BEING CONSTRUCTED. SO, THIS PROPERTY IS -- AS WE GET CLOSER I'LL EXPLAIN. IT'S IN A MIXED USE AREA. AND THERE IS COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL EVEN ACROSS THE ROAD TRACKS. AS WELL AS FOR ZONING IN THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH, I REZONED THAT NOT TOO LONG AGO TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE. THIS IS KIND OF A COMPANION TO THAT AS WELL.

THEY ARE PLANNING ON SHARING A DRIVEWAY. AND THIS SHOWS A CLOSER AS YOU SEE THE OR ZONING AND THE IW THAT I'M REZONING. THE CI THAT WAS REZONED AND THEN FLAGLER BOULEVARD WAS THE ACCESS ECOSPHERE TO THE RESIDENTIAL BEHIND.

THERE ARE A LOT OF WETLANDS BACK YOUR. THAT'S PROBABLY WHY IT'S NOT BEEN DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS. BUT WE HAVE SUCH A SMALL WINDOW TOWARD THE RESIDENTIAL VERSUS THIS ONE HAD A LARGER. IN FACT SHE ENDED UP BUYING LOTS BEHIND IT AS A BUFFER.

SO MOST OF THIS IS FRONTAGE. THERE PLANNING ON INSTALLING A DRIVEWAY BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM TO COME INTO A POINT. SO IT IS 3.7 ACRES. YOU'RE TAKING THE IW PORTION ON THE FRONT AND MAKING IT ALL CI AS WELL AS THE OR SHOWN THE CASE OF PROPERTY OF RCI NW.

THERE IS A SINGLE-FAMILY. THE SMALL PORTION ON THE NORTH WAS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND A LARGE PART IS THE ENTRANCE TO SAINT AUGUSTINE. AND AS I MENTIONED THERE PLANNING ON IMPROVING NOT TO COUNTY STANDARDS. THE GENERAL BUSINESS AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF SHOWING YOU THE BASE AREA AND WAS CONFUSING TO THE OTHER SIDE.

WITH THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AND SINCE IT HAS SUCH LITTLE FRONTAGE TO THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST, IS SIMILAR TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE AREA.

WITH THE BUFFERING AND SETBACK. WE FEEL LIKE IT IS COMPATIBLE AND DOES CONFORM TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND

DEVELOPMENT (INDISCERNIBLE). >>CHAIRMAN SMITH: ANY

QUESTIONS? >>MR. WALDRON: WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. -- I'M SORRY.

SEVEN. I'M SORRY. I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT MY GLASSES TODAY. SORRY. (LAUGHING) MR. CHAIRMAN, I SEE

NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >>CHAIRMAN SMITH: WITH NO PUBLIC COMMENT WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD. I HAVE A QUESTION IT GOT IN MY MIND WITH REGARD TO 313. THERE'S BEEN TALK -- SOMEBODY ADDRESS THAT.

IS THERE ENOUGH ROOM TO CONSTRUCT THAT?

>> IF AT A FUTURE POINT, IF THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED IT WOULD TAKE THOSE TWO PIECES.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ALREADY, COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER HAS A BACKUP OR NOTEBOOK MATERIAL HE MAY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT

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>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: >>MR. BLOCKER: COMMISSIONER DINO REFER TO YOU. (MULTIPLE SPEAKERS).

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: WHAT WAS THAT, COMMISSIONER?

>>MR. BLOCKER: IS YOUR CHAIRMAN IF I COULD DO FOR YOU TO MR. DEAN IF HE IS THE LANGUAGE IN FRONT OF HIM I WILL DEFER TO HIM.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: SURE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>>MR. DEAN: MOVED TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2020 -22 TO REZONE 2020 Ã03 FLAGLER BOULEVARD TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 3.7 ACRES OF LAND FROM OPEN RURAL AND INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE BASED UPON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: A MOTION. >>MR. BLOCKER: SECOND.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.

(ROLL CALL). >> IT PASSES 5 TO ZERO.

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WHAT'S JAN BREWER, ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION MANAGER. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

WAS BEEN HEARD TWICE BEFORE. IT WAS INITIATED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN OCTOBER 15, 2019. WE HAD DISCUSSION ITEMS BROUGHT DECEMBER 17 TO MARCH 3, 2020.

THE BOARD THEN DIRECTED THE STAFF ON CERTAIN ITEMS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MODIFICATION WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CONCERNING TRADE LINES.

TIS ITEM TREE FINDS IS NOT ADDRESSING OTHER DIVISION II ARTICLE 4 OR ARTICLE 6 CAN CONCERNING TREES OR LANDSCAPING. ON APRIL 16 THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY HEARD THIS ITEM. THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WITH A SIX TO 1 VOTE. ONE OF THE AGENCY MEMBERS DID NOT VOTE FOR THIS ITEM DUE TO THAT INDIVIDUAL WANTING TO INCLUDE THE LARGE SOUTHERN LIVE OAKS, NOT THE SAND LIVE OAKS BUT THE BIG, SOUTHERN LIVE OAKS, TO BE PROTECTED DOWN TO A TWO INCH SIZE. THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PROPOSAL TO THE BOARD NOR WAS IT APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY. THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH JUST THE TWO OTHER TREES. THIS IS A RECAP. THIS IS WHAT THE BOARD DIRECTED STAFF TO DEVELOP A TIERED APPROACH. SOME TIME DELAYS, SPECIMEN TREE REMOVAL AND A FINE FOR WHOLESALE CLEARING. AGAIN, AS A RECAP, YOU REMEMBER THE STAFF WENT BACK TO DETERMINE HOW THE JURISDICTIONS HANDLED THE ISSUES THEY TOOK THAT TO THE BOARD OF COMMAND COMMISSIONERS AND THAT'S HOW WE CRAFTED THIS FINAL AMENDMENT.

THE BOARD WANTED US TO CHOOSE TO TREES. CEDAR TREES ARE ALREADY PROTECTED ON THE COASTAL AREA DOWN TO A TWO INCH SIZE. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE NOT PROTECTED IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY. WHEN IT IS NOT ON THE COASTAL AREA, CEDAR TREES, ALL HARDWOOD TREES AND ALL TREES THAT ARE NOT EXEMPT PINES ARE EXEMPT.

ALL TREES ARE PROTECTED AT AN EIGHT INCH SIZE. JUST ON THE COASTAL AREA ARE THE CEDAR TREES THAT ARE PROTECTED AT A TWO INCH SIZE. WE INCLUDED SAND LIVE OAK TO BE IN A DEFINITION OF PROTECTIVE TREE DOWN TO THE TWO INCH SIZE TO ADDRESS THE MARITIME HELMICK AREA. WE RECOGNIZE SAND LIVE OAK AND CEDAR TREES ARE NOT THE ONLY TWO TREES IN A MARITIME HAMMOCK. BUT THE TWO OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TREES DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY ARE SLOW-GROWING AND THEY ARE RELATIVELY NOT AS ABUNDANT AS SOUTHERN LIVE OAK THAT WE SEE ON THE INTERIOR OF OUR COUNTY.

WE WERE ALSO DIRECTED TO ADDRESS THE THREE MILE LIMIT TO SOMETHING THAT IS MORE TANGIBLE. WE TOOK THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION. SO ANYTHING THAT IS ON THE EAST FROM THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY

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YOU HAVE TO REPLACE INCHES THAT YOU MOVE AND IF YOU CAN'T REPLACE THEM THEN YOU CAN REPLACE WHAT YOU CAN ON THE PROPERTY AND THEY WILL HAVE TO MITIGATE THE REST.

AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE A FINE. HERE THE STANDARD FINES FOR PROTECTIVE TREE REMOVAL.

AND THEN WE DO HAVE FINES FOR THOSE IN THEM WILL HAVE THE SELLER LINE HERE.

HE'LL HAVE A SPECIMEN TREE GROWING KNOW YOU DO NEED TO MITIGATE AGAIN THAT YOU HAVE THIS ON TOP OF THAT AND IF YOU CAN'T DETERMINE THE TREES THAT WERE REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY.

THERE WILL BE A A $30,000 FINE FOR THOSE ACTIVITIES. ALL DEVELOPMENT PERMITS WILL BE SUSPENDED FOR A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS. ALL FINES MUST BE RENDERED 30 DAYS AFTER VIOLATION AND ALL MITIGATION WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF IN THE SIX MONTH TIMEFRAME.

AGAIN, THE DEFINITIONS THEN IN ARTICLE 12 HAD TO BE CHANGED TO MATCH THE MARITIME HAMMOCK.

THIS WOULD BE A PROPOSED ADDITION OF THE SAND LIVE OAK IN ADDITION DOWN TO TWO INCH SIDE -- SIZE. WE WOULD BE REMOVING THE THREE-MILE DEMARCATION AND INSERTING THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY. AND THAT IS MY PRESENTATION.

WE HAVE TWO POTENTIAL MOTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

C9 WILL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT. COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

>>MR. WALDRON: WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

>> A SASHA MARTIN. 133 COASTAL HOLLOW CIRCLE. THANK YOU FOR AN ATTEMPT TO PURGE PRESERVE TREES. BUT IN REALITY, IT'S JUST A SMALL GESTURE THAT STILL ALLOWS DEVELOPERS TO CONSIDER BEG FORGIVENESS AFTER THE FACT AND INCREASED EXPENSE IN DOING BUSINESS AS USUAL IN MANY CASES, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO REPLANT THE SAME SIZE, SAME SPECIES AS INDICATED IN THE ORDINANCE OR CHANGE. BECAUSE OF THE AVAILABILITY OF THE TREES. WHAT SOURCE DO YOU HAVE IN MIND FOR SAND OAKS? HOW DO YOU PROVE WHAT TREES OF WHAT WERE REMOVED OR EVEN DOCUMENTED.

THERE IS THE LIST OF SPECIMEN TREE SPECIES THAT SHOULD BE PROTECTED.

REGULATION SHOULD BE COUNTY WAS NOT JUST FOR THE COASTAL ENVIRONMENT.

HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF SEASIDE VISTA. A BARREN WASTELAND WITH ONE ROAD AND POLKADOTTED TREE REPLACEMENTS NOW MOSTLY DAD AND SOME OF THE SPECIES PLANNED -- PLAINTIFF WILL NOT LIVE THERE. 538 PROTECTED OAK TREES WERE REMOVED.

MANY OVER 12 DBH. THE DEVELOPER PAID $103,375 FOR THEIR REMOVAL OR BY MITIGATION AND WETLAND AREAS WHERE THEY COULDN'T BUILD ANYWAY. THERE WAS NO BUFFER FOR VEGETATION TO BE LEFT ALONG COASTAL HIGHWAY. ORIGINAL TOPOGRAPHY WAS FIVE LINES OF ROLLING DUNES FROM 10 TO 15 FEET. AND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, HOWEVER, WAS LEVELED. HOW IS THIS ALLOWED TO BE PERMITTED BY OUR COUNTY?

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I COULD NOT MAKE HEADS OR TAILS OF IT. WHAT COULD BE READ ENCOURAGED CLEARCUTTING BECAUSE IF SIX INCHES OF FILLER NEEDED, ALL TREES ARE CONSIDERED LOST.

OR A REDEVELOPMENT. THE BCC TURNED THAT DOWN EIGHT MONTHS AGO.

THE BCC AGREED SEVEN YEARS AGO THAT THERE SHOULD BE A MEANINGFUL PROTECTION OF TREES.

IT IS MORE CRITICAL AS EACH DAY PASSES AS OUR COUNTY BECOMES MORE OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL WASTELAND. THE 233 ACRE DEVELOPMENTS YOU JUST APPROVED WILL THESE BE CLEAR-CUT, TOO? LET'S YOUR AWAY TONE AND AN ACT LOCAL REGULATIONS DESPITE RESTRICTIONS. THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT REQUESTED.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: MS. MARTIN? >> FOR RELOCATING SPECIMEN OAKS

. >> YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> THANK YOU. >> I THINK EVERYBODY WAS HARD.

>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE?

>> THIS IS JANET PATTON, 7265 820 S. I'M REPRESENTING THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY CIVIC ASSOCIATION ROUNDTABLE. THIS ROUNDTABLE SUPPORTS THE COUNTY'S ADOPTION OF A NORTHWEST IMPOSING FINES FOR UNAUTHORIZED TREE REMOVAL OR LAND CLEARING WITH THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS. NUMBER ONE, SOUTHERN LIVE OAK'S SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE SPECIES OF TREES WITH HIGHER FINES FOR SPECIMENS TWO INCHES OR GREATER ALONG WITH THE SAND LIVE OAK'S IN THE SOUTHERN RED CEDARS. AS PROPOSED, THE PROTECTED TREE REMOVAL ORDINANCE DOES NOT INCLUDE THE SOUTHERN LIVE OAK'S. THE PREVALENCE AND SIGNIFICANCE OF THE SOUTHERN LIVE OAK IN OUR COUNTY WARRANT ITS PROTECTION. NUMBER TWO, THE AREA IN WHICH STANDBY VOTES AND RED CEDARS AND SOUTHERN LIVE OAK'S ARE CONSIDERED PROTECTED TREES FOR SPECIES OF OVER TWO INCHES SHOULD BE EXPANDED TO INCLUDE AREAS WEST OF THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY. TO THE BOUNDARY OF I-95. THE LAND WEST OF THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR ITS HAMMOCKS, SIGNIFICANT WETLANDS AND WILDLIFE HABITAT. THE DRAFT ORDINANCE WOULD NOT HAVE COVERED THE UNAUTHORIZED CLEARCUTTING OF TREES ON GUN CLUB ROAD AS SUGGESTED BY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER LATE LAST YEAR. NUMBER THREE, THE FINES ASSESSED FOR ALL CATEGORIES OF UNAUTHORIZED TREE REMOVAL SHOULD BE DOUBLE TO REFLECT THE ACTUAL COST OF PURCHASING REPLACEMENT TREES AND SERVICE A DETERRENT FROM AUTHORIZED -- UNAUTHORIZED TREE REMOVAL.

ST. JOHN'S COUNTY FIVE SHOULD BE COMPETITIVE -- COMPETITIVE WITH NEIGHBORING COUNTIES.

DEFINES -- FINES FOR CLEARCUTTING IS $50,000 PER ACRE.

IN THE PROPOSED FINE FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY IS $30,000 PER ACRE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND ABOVE ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO

OUR COUNTY. >> THANK YOU.

>> PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON JENNIFER FROM KANSAS RIVER KEEPER 291 CABBAGE ROAD.

>> GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THE COUNTY MOVING FORWARD FOR FINES FOR UNAUTHORIZED TREE REMOVAL AND I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS AS EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE. FIRST, WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT LIVE OAK SORE -- ARE ADDED TO THE SPECIES OF TREES THAT ARE ASSESSED WITH HIGHER FINES IN SECTION 4105 -- AS WELL AS

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I'M GLAD STAFF RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SMALLER SPECIMENS OF SAND LIVE OAK'S IN AN EFFORT TO PROTECT THESE MARITIME ECOSYSTEMS, BUT IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT LIVE OAK'S ARE GENERALLY THE PREDOMINANT SPECIES OF TREES. AS SUCH WE NEED THE ADDITIONAL PROTECTION FOR SMALLER TREES TO ALLOW THEM TO GROW TO MATURITY AT THIS POINT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE MEETING ON APRIL 16 BY DR. WHO'S IN BACK. I THINK IT I DESERVES A LITTLE MORE EXPLORATION. HIS ENTIRE CAREER WAS LAND CONSERVATION AND HE IS AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD. THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO EXPAND THE AREA IN WHICH SAND LIVE OAK SOUTHERN RED CEDAR ARE PROTECTIVE TREES FOR SPECIES TWO INCHES OR GREATER TO INCLUDE AREA THAT IS TO THE WEST OF THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY.

SO UNDERSTANDING THAT ANY SPECIE OF TREES PROTECTED IF IT EXCEEDS EIGHT INCHES REGARDLESS OF LOCATION, I WOULD URGE YOU TO EXPAND THIS ADDITIONAL PROTECTION FOR SMALLER TREES TO SOME AREA WEST OF THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY. THE RATIONALE IS THAT WE LOST A LOT OF OUR TREES ON THE BARRIER ISLANDS DURING HURRICANE MATTHEW AND IRMA.

I HAD ABOUT 25 TREES IN MY YARD AND TWO OF THEM SURVIVED. IT TAKES A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

A LOT OF THE TREES THAT ARE LEFT UNPROTECTED ARE LOCATED TO THE WEST WHERE YOU ARE BUFFERED FROM THE STORM. MY FINAL RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT THE FINES ASSESSED FOR ALL CATEGORIES SHOULD BE DOUBLED TO ACCURATELY REFLECT -- AS IS CURRENTLY DRAFTED THE REPLACEMENT COST FOR A TWO TO ORANGE LIVE SANDO WOULD BE TWO TO $400.

BUT A TREE IN THAT SIZE RANGE WOULD COST BETWEEN 300 AND $550.

AND IN ORDER FOR A FINE TO SERVE AS A DETERRENT IT HAS TO BE COST PROHIBITIVE.

IT HAS TO MAKE A LEGAL ACTION UNPALATABLE OTHERWISE IS JUST GOING TO BE WRITTEN OFF AS THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND I HOPE THIS ORDINANCE PAVES THE WAY FOR A MORE ROBUST PROTECTIVE ORDINANCE.

>> CAN WE HAVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

>> MY NAME IS CHARLENE VINCENT. 2314 VINTAGE GO ROAD SAINT AUGUSTINE.

>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE AND TELL YOU THAT I HAVE ATTENDED PREVIOUSLY IN PERSON THESE MEETINGS BOTH BBA AND COMMISSIONERS MEETINGS AND I KNOW THAT MANY OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ALSO BEEN IN THE AUDIENCE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

WE CAN'T SEE THAT IMPACT TODAY WITH THE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ISSUE, I WANT THAT TO BE NOTED FOR THE RECORD. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I DO NOT FEEL THAT THESE FINES ARE A DETERRENT IN ANY WAY FOR ANY DEVELOPER WHO CAN SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY TO EITHER REPLANT A TREE OR PAY A FINE. IN CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT JUST THIS MORNING A HUGE DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED BY YOUR BOARD UNANIMOUSLY, WITHOUT ANY DISCUSSION OF TREES SPEAKS TO THIS IN VOLUME. SO I DO NOT THINK THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE OF SPECIFIC TREES IN A SPECIFIC PLACE, THINK THIS IS AN ISSUE OF ALL TREES IN EVERY PLACE OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

TREES ARE AS MUCH A PART OF LEAVING A LEGACY AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND IT WILL LEAVE A MARK FOREVER WHEN THOSE TREES HAVE DISAPPEARED JUST AS THE IMPACT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS LEAVE A MARK FOREVER. AND SO IS IMPORTANT THAT THESE FINES LEAVE AN IMPACT ON THE DEVELOPERS OTHERWISE THIS IS NO DETERRENT AND NO SOLUTION TO A FINE THAT IS IMPOSED AFTER THE FACT. I DO NOT SEE HOW THAT WILL DETER ANYBODY FROM STOPPING TWICE TO CHOP DOWN HUNDREDS OF TREES AT A TIME AND WE CAN SEE THAT HAPPENING EVERYWHERE AROUND US COUNTY THESE DAYS. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU VOTE ON THIS ISSUE TODAY.

IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THE FUTURE. THANK YOU.

>> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS DIANE BATTLE. ARE WE STARTING THE COMMENTS.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> OKAY.

BECAUSE I SEE THE CLOCK IS ON ONE MINUTE AND 12 SECONDS. IS O'CLOCK BE RESET?

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>> IS RESET. YOU JUST HAD A LITTLE DELAY.

>> OKAY. SO DIANE BATTLE 631 SWEETWATER BRANCH LANE 32259.

I'VE EMAILED MY COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND I'M SUMMARIZING THEM TO STATE MY AGREEMENT WITH THE LAST THREE SPEAKERS, ADDING SOUTHERN LIVE OAK'S WITH THE TWO INCH DBH SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE PROTECTED TREE DEFINITION. I WOULD SAY, LIKE THE OTHERS, THAT YOU SHOULD CHANGE THE SCOPE OF THE PROTECTION AND AS A RESIDENT OF THE DISTRICT ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT HURRICANES ARE NUMBER SPECTERS OF THE COASTLINE ALONG THE RIVER OR ALONG THE SEA. WE'VE LOST A LOT OF PROPERTY OVER HERE WE HAVE DAMAGED A LOT OF PROPERTY BECAUSE OF TREE CANOPY DAMAGE. WE DESERVE THE SAME PROTECTION FROM STORMS AS ANY OTHER RESIDENT. AND THEY CAN COME FROM THE WEST OR THE EAST. ALSO, THE RARE ENDEMIC STREAK CAN BE FOUND WEST OF THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY. SO DEFTLY ON THAT BASIS, YOU NEED TO EXPAND IT.

THE LAST SENTENCE ANY TREE THAT IS PRESERVED APLENTY BECOMES A PROTECTED TREE.

HOW THE WORLD IS GOING TO KEEP TRACK OF THOSE PROTECTIVE TREES? YOU CAN'T ENFORCE THIS PROVISION. YOU NEED TO REFORMULATE THAT SO IT'S ENFORCEABLE. AND AS MY PREVIOUS COLORS NOTED, YOU ALREADY HAVE MITIGATION FEES, BUT THIS ARTICLE, ARTICLE 4, INTRODUCES FINES.

MITIGATION FEES ARE DETERMINED BY MARKET RATE OF REPLACEMENT, BUT A FINE IS NOT THE SAME AS A FEE. A FINE IS PUNITIVE, INTENDED TO DETER VIOLATIONS.

YOU SHOULD NOT TIE THE SIZE OF DEFINED TO THAT SIZE OF THE FEE REQUIRED FOR MITIGATION.

YOU HAVE TO ADD SOME TEETH TO THIS. AND FURTHERMORE, THE CLEARCUTTING EXPOSES THE WATERSHED, WHICH IS OUR ENTIRE COUNTY, TO SPECIAL RISKS.

WITH THE KULLBY PANDEMIC OUR REAL ESTATE MARKET IS TANKING. WHAT'S CAN HAPPEN TO THOSE CLEAR-CUT AREAS THAT DO NOT FILL OUT WHEN DEVELOPERS DECLARE BANKRUPTCY WALK AWAY? THE MODIFICATIONS WE ARE PROPOSING WILL COST THE COUNTY NO EXTRA MONEY AND WILL RESULT IN A HEALTHIER TREE CANOPY AND BETTER STORE MITIGATION FOR ALL CITIZENS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MR. SLAVEN. (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> I AGREE WITH THE OTHER SPEAKERS BEFORE ME. AND OUR STAFF IS SEPARATING WHICH ARE DIRECTED TO DO. MR. MCCORMICK NEEDS TO BE FIRED.

THIS PACKAGE DOES NOT DO WHAT IT SETS OUT TO ACCOMPLISH. WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE ARE ENVIRONMENTAL CRIMES. ENVIRONMENTAL CRIMES AGAINST NATURE.

THESE DEVELOPERS CAME INTO ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND THEY'VE TRASHED IT.

IN THE WORDS OF -- (INDISCERNIBLE) -- THERE TURNING THE EARTH INTO A PIECE OF FILTH. AND THERE BEING -- (INDISCERNIBLE) -- GETTING AWAY WITH -- DESTROYING ENTIRE FORESTS AND ECOSYSTEMS AND WETLANDS.

AND MEANWHILE, I DON'T THINK YOUR STAFF KNOWS WHAT A FINE IS.

WHY ARE WE -- (INDISCERNIBLE) -- IN TERMS OF -- IF THE DEVELOPER CLEARCUTS, -- UNDER YOUR ORDINANCE, CAN YOU MAKE THAT -- THREE DAYS IN JAIL?

>> I THINK YOU NEED TO PUT HANDCUFFS ON SOME OF THE PEOPLE COME TO ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WITH THEIR BRIEFCASES BULGING FULL OF CASH GIVING CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR CAMPAIGNS.

JUST A WIMPY EXCUSE FOR AN ORDINANCE. MY SUGGESTION IS TO EVERY SINGLE THING THAT THE FOLKS JUST TESTIFY BEFORE ME SAID EVERY SINGLE THING WAS PUT IN A SPREADSHEET, COME BACK AND HOPEFULLY WILL HAVE A NEW COUNTY ATTORNEY BY THEM BECAUSE HE DOES NOT DO WHAT HE'S TOLD ANYMORE THAN -- WHEN HE WAS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

INSUBORDINATION -- THIS IS A WIMPY EXCUSE FOR ORGANS. I PUT ON THE RECORD ALL THE COMMUNICATIONS IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR HAD AS TO HOW TO WEAKEN THIS ORDER.

JUST LIKE THEY DID WHEN A SUBMARINE DATE SPOT -- SO I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING A MOTION TO TABLE AND LET'S FLUSH OUT ALL THE ISSUES. THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE BEFORE ME KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. -- (INDISCERNIBLE) -- I WOULD

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YOU HAVE ANY TIME LEFT? >> 30 SECONDS.

>> I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOU DO IN YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED -- THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY THE PRIOR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THEY WERE PICKING ALL THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BETWEEN 98 AND 2004. WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE ALL OF YOU ALL AND I THANK YOU AGAIN FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART OF HIRING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

THANK YOU ALL. HAVE A GREAT DAY.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. CAN WE PLEASE HAVE YOUR NAME

AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? >> MORNING LONG, 1821 CASTEEL

STREET MENENDEZ PARK. >> GO AHEAD.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, GENTLEEN. CAN I HAVE SLIDE, TO PLEASE? YOU'LL RECOGNIZE THIS AREA IS NEXT TO THE RETENTION POND EASTBOUND AT THE FOOT OF THE 312 BRIDGE.

SLIDE THREE, PLEASE. >> THIS IS A SURVEY OF THE AREA APPROXIMATELY 199 ACRES. SLIDE FOR PLEASE. THE TABLE LISTS THE HUNDRED 95 TREES. I'M USING THIS TO DISPLAY THAT THE LIVE OAKS ARE DELETING TREES IN THE MARITIME -- SLIDE FIVE PLEASE. A CONDENSED VOTE TO DISPLAY THE TREES THE 54 LIVE OAK'S REPRESENT THEIR PREVALENCE TO THIS MARITIME HAMMOCK.

SLIDE SIX PLEASE. THIS TOOK PLACE IN OCTOBER 2019.

THE PROTECTION WE ARE DISCUSSING WILL NOT HELP THE TREES HERE UNLESS WE EXPAND THE PROTECTION AREA. THE CEDAR STAND OAKS AND LIVE OAKS WHILE WE KNOW THEY'RE NOT LISTED, THEY WILL BE LISTED IN THIS DEFINITION BECAUSE THEY LIVE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE RIVER. THESE TREES ARE BUFFERS TO THE WETLANDS WHICH ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT. SLIDE SEVEN PLEASE.

>> WHEN TREES ARE CUT DOWN THEY SET A PRICE OF REPLACEMENT. THE PRICE IS ON THE LIST ARE SIZABLE DIFFERENCES FROM THE ASSESSMENT WHICH SEEMS TO BE MUCH LOWER THAN THE COST.

SLIDE EIGHT. >> THE SOUTHERN RED CEDAR SHOULD BE PROTECTED REGARDLESS OF WHERE GROWS. THE HABITAT -- IT HAS THE ABILITY TO WITHSTAND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS AND FLOODING EASTER WEST.

SLIDE NINE, PLEASE. >> THE $30,000 FINE EQUAL TO THE SIGNS OF THESI SPECIMEN TRE OF THE $5000 COST PER TREE. THE SIGN SHOULD BE TREATED AS

THE ILLEGAL ACT THAT IT IS. >> THE PROTECTION OF TREES NEEDS TO BE -- GOING BEYOND THE CW PERHAPS OF THE I-95. THIS IS ON THE WESTERN SHORES OF THE KANSAS RIVER ON THE MAINLAND. HOME TO BIRDS AND ANIMALS ALIKE. SLIDE 11. THESE ARE THE ONES ON OLD MOULTRIE ROAD. THE NEWEST ONE SOUTH THE STAND OAKS THAT ARE HOME TO THE VULNERABLE -- THAT RELY ON FORM SLIDE 13, PLEASE.

>> THESE LIVE OAK'S ARE GREAT WIND BARRIERS DURING HURRICANES.

THE INTERCONNECT TREES TO FORM TREE CANOPIES AND LASTLY, SLIDE 14.

SOUTHERN LIVE OAK SO THE MATERNAL LIVING TREE OF FLORIDA'S ECOSYSTEM.

WE ARE LUCKY TO LIVE WHERE THESE TREES GROW. LET'S KEEP OUR COUNTY HEALTHY AND STRONG. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY, GENTLEMEN.

>> A GOOD USE OF YOUR TIME. GOOD AFTERNOON. CAN I HAVE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? >> YES.

I AM SHIRLEY BONNER. 138 MARSH SIDE DRIVE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I TOTALLY SUPPORT THE COMMENTS OF MOST OF THE PRIOR SPEAKERS ESPECIALLY DIANE BATTLE.

WE ARE MEMBERS OF THE WOODLAND CIRCLE OF THE GARDEN PUBLIC OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

THAT CLUB HAS ABOUT 250 MEMBERS. THE MAJORITY OF WHOM LIVE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. SPECIFICALLY, BUT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS AGAIN, WITH THE SOUTHERN LIVE OAK, EVEN IF THE TRUNK IS JUST TWO INCHES OR FOUR, THAT TREE SHOULD BE A PROTECTED TREE. THE LIVE OAK IS THE SLOWEST GROWER BUT IT LIVES LONG AND IT'S THE MOST PREVALENT TREE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. SECONDLY, MARITIME HAMMOCKS DO NEED PROTECTION BUT SO DO THE ONES IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY AND ALONG THESE WESTERN

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I DO SUPPORT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS INCREASING FINES FOR UNAUTHORIZED LAND CLEARING BUT I DO AGREE WITH DIANE THAT THE FINES AND FEES SHOULD BE COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

FINES SHOULD BE LARGE ENOUGH THAT THEY DETER FUTURE VIOLATIONS.

IN OTHER WORDS, THEY SHOULD NOT JUST BE A SLAP ON THE REST OR JUST THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS IN THIS COUNTY. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

GOODBYE. >> THANK YOU.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN I SEE NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE YOU ARE HERE FOR.

>> BETH BREEDING SILVER FIELD OF ELEMENT 10175 ORCHARD PARKWAY JACKSONVILLE 32256.

I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE -- ASSOCIATION.

WE DON'T HAVE A ISSUE. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT PULL A PERMIT THEY GET WHAT THEY DESERVE OR -- WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. OUR ONLY ISSUE IS PLEASE DON'T CHANGE FROM WHAT YOU HAVE HERE TO INCLUDE OTHER TREES OR TO MOVE THE LINE OTHER THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED UNLESS YOU GIVE US A CHANCE TO COME BACK.

WE MET FOR TWO YEARS ON SOMETHING VERY COMPREHENSIVE THAT HAD CARROTS AND STICKS.

IF WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE WE REQUEST THAT WE BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT BEFORE BE BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE BOARD.

>> THANK YOU. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I SEE NO OTHER

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSE WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY COMMENTS, DISCUSSION, MOTIONS?

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON ALL OF THE EXCELLENT EMAILS THAT I RECEIVED LAST WEEK REGARDING THIS ISSUE, SEVERAL FROM -- ONE FROM THE RIVER KEEPER ANOTHER FROM THE CIVIC ROUNDTABLE AND ALL THE VARIOUS COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE EITHER OVER THE PHONE OR IN PERSON TODAY. ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS, ALL OF THOSE SUGGESTIONS, I THINK, ARE REALLY GOOD FOOD FOR THOUGHT. HOWEVER, WE'VE HELD AT LEAST THREE MEETINGS AND HEARINGS ON THIS SUBJECT. WE'VE ARRIVED AT A POINT WHERE WE HAVE INCREASED FINES WE ALSO HAVE A SIX-MONTH DELAY IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS AS AN ADDED PENALTY. MY SUGGESTION TODAY IS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A GOOD RULE, GOOD ORDINANCE AND THAT WE CONSIDER COMING BACK IN THE FUTURE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THESE OTHER ITEMS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN INCREASE IN FINES TODAY AND A SIX-MONTH DELAY IN PERMIT APPLICATION PROCESSING START IMMEDIATELY AND CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE RATHER THAN TRY TO WORK THROUGH A SERIES OF AMENDMENTS TODAY, WHICH I DON'T THINK HAS BEEN VETTED ENOUGH WITH ALL THE COMMUNITY. AND SO WITH THAT I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER OBSERVATIONS OR COMMENTS.

>> PLEASE FILL FORWARDPLEASE FEEL FREE TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> I'M SORRY. NOT TO INTERRUPT MR. DEAN. I WANT TO WEIGH JUST BRIEFLY YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE POINT OF BRINGING THIS UP WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID NOT HAVE DEVELOPERS -- THERE'S A UNITED FRONT IN THAT REGARD. MY CONCERN IS THAT WERE ADDING ADDITIONAL TREES TO THIS, IF WE ARE ADDING ADDITIONAL GEOGRAPHIC AREAS, WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORKSHOP AND GIVE EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY.

I DO NOT WANT SOME FARMERS IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY TO GET HIT WITH A $5000 FINE.

THAT WAS NOT THE POINT OF THIS. THE POINT WAS TO STOP ILLEGAL CUTTING AND PUT AN END TO THAT.

I DO NOT WANT TO PENALIZE A FAMILY THAT IS TRYING TO REMOVE BRUSH IN THE BACK OF THE YARD.

I THINK WE NEED TO FULLY VET THAT. I AGREE WITH MR. DEAN.

I THINK THAT WE HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE IN THE WAY WE PRESENTED THIS TO STAFF AND THE WAYS BEING BROUGHT TO US GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A FURTHER AMENDMENT BUT I THINK THAT WE GIVE EVERYONE IN THE COUNTY THE OPPORTUNITY TO --

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>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AND ENACT ORDINANCE 2020.

>> 23. >> AMENDING ARTICLE 4 SECTION 4.01.0 5E AND ARTICLE 12 DEFINITION OF PROTECTED TREE OF LAND DEVELOPING CODE.

>> SECOND. >>CHAIRMAN SMITH: I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING THEN WE WILL PROCEED WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> (ROLL CALL). >>CHAIRMAN SMITH: IT PASSES

FIVE TO >>CHAIRMAN SMITH: IT PASSES 5 TO 0. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO PERSONALLY THANK JAN BREWER FOR HER WORK ON THIS GOING BACK TO LAST

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GOOD JOB, JANUARY. >>CHAIRMAN SMITH: WE WILL MOVE ALONG TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.

>> SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY. WE'VE HAD A LONG DAY SO FAR.

I WANT TO SPEND ANOTHER HOUR OR TWO ON THIS ITEM.

>> PLEASE JAZZ IT UP. >> JUST TO LET YOU KNOW I'LL DO A LITTLE SOFT SHOULD BE ON THE PODIUM HERE.

>> (LAUGHING). >> WERE GOING TO PRESENT A REQUEST FROM A PROPERTY OWNER FOR A LIEN ON 210 S. NASSAU STREET.

ORDINARILY WOULD BE ON THE REGULAR AGENDA DUE TO SOME ISSUES WITH THE REQUEST AND THE POTENTIAL THAT THE BOARD WOULD HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. SO IN 2004, THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS APPEALS CONSTRUCTIONS BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS ENTERED AN ORDER IN THE AMOUNT OF APPROXIMATELY $2400 ASSESSING A LIEN FOR THE ABATEMENT OF THE STRUCTURE AT 210 S. NASSAU STREET. FOR YOUR REFERENCE, 210 S.

NASSAU STREET IS LOCATED IN THE WEST AUGUSTINE PART OF THE COUNTY SOUTH OF -- JUST SOUTH OF KING STREET. CONTRARY TO WHAT IS INDICATED ON YOUR AGENDA, THIS IS DISTRICT 2, DISTRICT 1. THAT IS MY MISTAKE.

>> AND AFTER 16 YEARS WITH ACCRUED INTEREST, THE LIEN IS ESTIMATED TO BE IN EXCESS OF $5500. PURSUANT TO STATUTE THE LIEN WILL EXPIRE IN ANOTHER FOUR YEARS. THE STATUTES PROVIDE FOR A 20 YEAR LIFE OF CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS IF THEY'RE NOT IN THE PROCESS OF FORECLOSURE. AS I INDICATED, WE HAVE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT THE LIEN BE RELEASED IN ITS ENTIRETY.

THE PROPERTY OWNER IS SELLING THE PROPERTY OR IS PROPOSED TO SELL THE PROPERTY TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER. FOR $5000. YOU WILL SEE AN INDICATION HERE IN THE SLIDE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS ALSO OFFERED TO PROVIDE THE COUNTY WITH A PARCEL ON IRVING STREET. YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A RED FOLDER ITEM INDICATING THAT THE URBAN STREET PROPERTY HAS ONLY BEEN CONVEYED TO A DIFFERENT THIRD PARTY.

THE SALES PRICE WAS $2500 ON THAT. THE PROPERTY OWNER INDICATED THAT HE WENT THROUGH WITH THAT CONVEYANCE BECAUSE I HAD INDICATED TO HIM THAT STAFF HAD NOT FOUND A NEED FOR THAT PROPERTY. AND SO IS MAKING THE REQUEST THAT THE COUNTY RELEASE THE LIEN NOT IN EXCHANGE FOR THE PROPERTY, BUT ONLY FURTHER BASIS THAT I'LL DESCRIBE IN A MOMENT. HE REPORTS THAT FOR NASSAU STREET INTERVENE STREET PROPERTIES, HE HAS SPENT IN EXCESS OF $6300 FOR THE PURCHASE PRICE AND PAYMENT OF BACK TAXES HE ALSO NOTES THAT HE IS A 100 PERCENT DISABLED VETERAN AND THAT HE THEY HAVE LIMITED INCOME THAT FORMS THE MAIN BASIS OF HIS REQUEST.

HE HAS NOT MADE AN OFFER TO PAY ANY AMOUNT TOWARD THE OUTSTANDING LIEN.

YOU SHOULD FIND IN YOUR PACKET AN EMAIL FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER THE PROPOSED BUYER, ALSO SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF RELEASE OF THE LIEN. AS I INDICATED BEFORE, STAFF HAD NOT FOUND A NEED FOR THE PROPERTY. SO WE WOULD NOT BE REQUESTING THAT THE BOARD ENTER INTO THAT EXCHANGE. YOU SHOULD HAVE IN YOUR PACKET

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I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT IF THE BOARD IS INCLINED TO PROVE THAT REQUEST, I HAVE A REVISED RESOLUTION THAT REMOVES REFERENCE TO THE URBAN STREET PROPERTY EXCHANGE PROPOSAL THAT I CAN PRESENT TO YOU AS WELL. AND THEN FINALLY, I GUESS I WOULD NOTE THAT -- AS INDICATED BEFORE THIS WOULD NORMALLY COME TO YOU ON A CONSENT AGENDA. I WOULD ALSO ASK SOME DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD WITH THE APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD TO CONTINUE RESEARCHING A PROCEDURE THAT WE CAN BRING THESE ITEMS TO THE BOARD IN A MORE REGULAR FASHION.

IT MIGHT BE ACCOMPANIED WITH A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BOARD WITH INSTRUCTION SO THAT IT WOULD NOT COME TO THIS BOARD IN THE FIRST INSTANCE WITHOUT AN IN-DEPTH REVIEW SO THAT, HIM

STANDING BY WITH ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD FOR STAFF?

>> WHAT IS THE VALUE ON THIS PROPERTY?

>> GIVE ME ONE MINUTE, SIR. I HAVE IT WITH ME.

>> IT STILL POSSESSES ENTITLEMENTS FOR ONE SINGLE-FAMILY THE ASSESSED VALUE ACCORDING TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER IS JUST OVER 10,000. $10,828 AND ASSESSED VALUE.

THE ADJUSTED MARKET VALUE OF $11,050. AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE RIGHT IT WOULD HAVE ENTITLEMENTS.

>> IF WE REMOVE ONE FROM THERE -- (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS SHE INTENDS TO EXPAND HER GARDEN INTO THE PROPERTY. I DO NOT BELIEVE SHE INDICATED TO CONSTRUCT A NEW HOME ON

THIS. >> THANK YOU.

WITH NO QUESTIONS -- ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

>> I GUESS -- DID HE CONTACT YOU AND TELL YOU THAT HE SOLD THE PROPERTY.

>> THAT WAS FROM YOU. I DID CONTACT HIM AFTER TO CONFIRM THAT THAT HAD HAPPENED AND TO TRY TO GET SOME EXPLANATION AND HE STATED THAT THAT WAS BECAUSE STAFF, THROUGH ME HAD INDICATED THAT HE DID NOT HAVE A NEED FOR THE PROPERTY OR SEE A NEED FOR THE PROPERTY. HE DID NOT TELL ME BEFORE HE CONVEYED IT.

>> ADEED FEE IS NOT SOMETHING THE COUNTY CHARGES. THAT'S A FEE HE PAID SOMEBODY

ELSE. >> ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE

NASSAU PROPERTY. >> ALL OF IT.

WHEN HE LISTS THE FEE THAT'S NOT A COUNTY FEE.

>> I DO NOT BELIEVE SO. IF I'M UNDERSTANDING WHICH FEAR TALKING ABOUT.

>> HE SAYS EVERYTHING COSTS THEM. IT'S NOT NUMBERED, SO I CAN'T -- HE LISTS A DEED FEE AND TAXES. I'M SURE THAT'S A REFERENCE TO THE RECORDING FEE YOU PURCHASED THE PROPERTY INITIALLY. AND MR. WALDRON, SHOULD NOTE THAT THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER WAS NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER AT THE TIME OF THE UNDERLYING VIOLATION. IT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY SOLD AT TAX DEED AND HE GOT IT FROM ONE LLC AND SOLD IT TO ANOTHER LL C VIA QUITCLAIM DEED. FOR WHAT THAT IS WORTH.

AND I GUESS I SHOULD NOTE STAFF, WE ARE NOT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION WE WILL LEAVE IT IN YOUR HANDS TO MAKE THAT CALL.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE YOU. WE WILL OPEN IT FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA

ITEM NUMBER NINE. >> PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? >> JANET DENNIS 230 S. NASSAU.

>> MIMEO. GO AHEAD.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS REQUEST. I PURCHASED THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO THIS LOT IN NOVEMBER

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS REQUEST. I PURCHASED THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO THIS LOT IN NOVEMBER 2019.

AND I'M IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING IN AND I'M EXCITED TO BECOME A PERMANENT RESIDENT OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. I AM UNDER CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THE LOT UNDER CONSIDERATION.

THE LIEN ON THE PROPERTY WAS REVEALED AFTER I HIRED A TITLE SEARCH SERVICE.

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AND AT THE TIME OF OUR CONTRACT, THE SELLER HAD NO AWARENESS OF THIS LIEN EXISTING. THE LIEN ON THE HOUSE IS NOW MORE THAN THE SALES PRICE OF $5000 AND IT MAY MAKE CLOSING UNAFFORDABLE TO BOTH THE SELLER AND DIE.

THE SMALL CORNER LOT ADJACENT TO MY HOME HAS BECOME A DUMPING GROUND FOR LETTER AND I HAVE PICTURES OF THE PROPERTY SHOWING HOWEVER HELP TO PICK UP THE TRASH WHICH YOU CAN COMPARE TO OTHER LOTS TWO DOORS DOWN WHICH ARE STREWN WITH TRASH. I'M ASKING THAT YOU VOTE TO APPROVE THE RELEASE SO THAT I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AND MAINTAIN IT FREE OF TRASH AND TO MONITOR IT FOR ILLEGAL TRESPASSING OR MY OWN WELFARE AND SAFETY. AS WELL AS TO HELP SECURE AND BEAUTIFY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> MIMEO. THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. >> I'M SORRY.

I SEE NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT. MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MS. DENNIS

NOTED. >> AS I INDICATED, THE CURRENT OWNER DID BUY THE PROPERTY VIA QUITCLAIM DEED. THAT MAY BE WHY HE DID NOT DISCOVER THE LIEN BECAUSE HE DID NOT TAKE IT AS A WARRANTY DEED AS TO TITLE.

SHE WAS CORRECT. WE DID HAVE AN OUTSTANDING CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE BEFORE REGARDING TRASH ON THE PROPERTY. I THINK THAT HAS SINCE BEEN COMPLIED OUT AND REMEDIED, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE GOING FORWARD AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THOSE TWO POINTS.

>> THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD?

>> ALL RIGHT. THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT. AND I WILL MOVE IT IF NOBODY HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS. MY MOTION IS TO REJECT THE REQUEST FOR RELEASE OF THE CONSTRUCTION APPEALS LIEN FOR 2010 S. NASSAU STREET.

>> I WILL SECONDED. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> SEE NONE, WE WILL PROCEED WITH A BOAT.

>>. >> (ROLL CALL).

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: PASSES 5-0. >> I WILL TAKE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN MAKE A REQUEST IF HE IS A DIFFERENT OFFER.

AND IF THE BOARD IS INTERESTED IN PROVIDING ANY DIRECTION FOR CREATING A PROCEDURE FOR FUTURE REQUESTS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

>> I AM CERTAINLY DESIROUS. I THINK IT IS A GOOD THING TO DO IS TO PROCEED WITH SOME KIND OF PROCEDURE THAT WE CAN VET THEM BEFORE THEY GET TO THE BOARD.

BUT THAT IS MY TAKE ON IT. IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENT FROM THE BOARD?

>> MY CONCERN IS I'M NOT KNOCKING WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAID.

I USED TO BUY PROPERTY IT'S ON YOU TO GET A TITLE SEARCH. THE BUYER DID A WRITING AND DID A TITLE SEARCH. YOU KNOW GOING IN THAT IT MAY NOT HAVE A CLEAR TITLE.

IF YOU VETTED YOU PAY BEFORE YOU BID ON IT. IT LOOKS TO ME THAT HE USED A COMPANY BOUGHT IT TO A COMPANY WANTED -- ONE OF THOSE LETTER THINGS.

AND HE HAS ASKED US TO MAKE A -- HE IS MADE A BAD BUSINESS DECISION OR MISTAKE AND HE WANTS US TO RECTIFIED FOR HIM. I DON'T THINK THAT'S OUR JOB. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING GOING FORWARD THAT MAY BE IF THEY ARE SOLD AT TAX SALES MAY BE WE CAN GET WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND LET THEM NOTIFY THEM THERE IS A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.

>> AM SURPRISED THAT LIEN WASN'T DISCOVERED.

>> THAT ISN'T QUITE CORRECT. IT WAS DISCLOSED IN THE TAX DEED SALE PROCESS.

HE BOUGHT IT TO BUYERS AFTER THAT. SO IT APPARENTLY WASN'T DISCLOSED TO HIM FROM EITHER OF THE LL SEALS -- SEEDS. ÃTHE OTHER LL SEES.

>> HE MADE A MISTAKE. WE WILL HAVE CLEAR CRITERIA FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER WITH THINGS LIKE THAT. WE CAN PRESENT THAT ALL TO YOU.

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>> AS LONG AS THE BOARD'S CONSENSUS WITH IT.

>> WOULD YOU AGREE TO THAT? MR. BLOCKER, ANY COMMENTS? I SEE A LOT OF HEAD NODS HERE.

ARE YOU NODDING YOUR HEAD? >> I AM.

I THINK THAT -- I THINK IT RAISES A GOOD POINT. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A WAY OF

THIS. >> MR. CHAIR, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP THE PRESENTATION. THAT'S BEEN CAPTURED THE PUBLIC YOU HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

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WE ARE NOW INTO REPORTS. I'LL BEGIN WITH COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR CONDUCTING A WELL-MANAGED AGENDA TODAY. YOU MANAGED WELL AND I THOUGHT YOU RAN THE MEETING WELL TODAY.

I JUST WANTED TO PUBLICLY THANK YOU BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I FELT. SECONDLY, I WAS SCHEDULED IN MARCH FOR CATARACT SURGERY AND WAS CANCELED DUE TO ELECTIVE SURGERY BEING CANCELED.

IT WAS RESCHEDULED AS FOR TOMORROW ON MY LEFT SIDE. I ONLY MENTION THIS BECAUSE HOMME IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE BUDGET BUT I HOPE -- I'M NOT PLAYING GOLF.

I'M HAVING CATARACT SURGERY. I'LL BE JOINING YOU THURSDAY AND FRIDAY.

IF I'M NOT THERE TOMORROW. >> THANK YOU.

WE WILL BE PRAYING FOR YOU AS WELL.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE PROFESSIONAL.

-- MR. DEAN'S COMMENTS IT WAS AN EFFECTIVE MEETING. WE HAD A LOT OF IMPORTANT SUBJECTS,. ONE THING I'D LIKE TO TOUCH ON IF I COULD.

IN LIGHT OF OUR EFFORTS TO HOLD ACCOUNTABILITY FOR TREE CUTTING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THINK IT MAY BE GOOD FOR US TO HAVE OUR STAFF LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCES AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN SEQUENCE WITH THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES PARTICULARLY WITH GUIDELINES IN INVESTMENT WITH ROAD CONSTRUCTION.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE). >> SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE BOARD WOULD BE INTERESTED IN I THINK IT BE GOOD TO LOOK AT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT REQUIRING THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE WATER MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS.

I PUT THAT OUT TO THE BOARD AND SEE IF THERE IS A CONSENSUS.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD?

>> I HAVE TWO HEAD NODS. ANY COMMENTS? I SUPPOSE WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. MR. CHAIR, JUST TO BE CLEAR SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT COMMISSIONER BLOCKER IS REQUESTING A THINK HE'S REQUESTING AND MENTIONED TO ME AS WELL I THINK IS REQUESTING TO LOOK AT THE FILL ON ROADS AND ARE WE OVER REGULATING IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY COMPARED TO F DOT STANDARDS. I WANT TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE HE MENTIONED A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ASKING US TO LOOK

AT AN ADDRESS. >> YES.

THAT IS CORRECT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE OUT OF SYNC WITH SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND ARE IMPACTING SOME TREE PRESERVATION. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO IT TO SEE IF THERE

ARE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. >> EXCESSIVE REGULATION IS WHT YOU WANT TO LOOK INTO OVER AND ABOVE. THAT'S A LOT CLEARER TO ME.

ALL RIGHT. WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND THAT WILL BE GOOD.

ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> I WOULD TO THANK EVERYBODY AGAIN. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU EACH IN PERSON AND DEFINITELY TIMES LIKE THIS TO BE ACTIVATED WITH THE GUARD MAKES YOU MISS ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. I HOPE EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING WELL.

>> THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN. IT WORKED OUT WELL. I APPRECIATE YOUR PARTICIPATION

REMOTELY. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> COMMISSIONER WALT? >> WE GOT A COUPLE HOURS AHEAD OF WHERE I THOUGHT WE WOULD BE. I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OUR 2020 HIGH SCHOOL, TRADE SCHOOL COLLEGE GRADUATES IN THE COUNTY.

GRADUATION IS A FUN TIME AND I KNOW THAT THEY ARE MISSING OUT ON SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES, BUT AT LEAST THEY ARE SAFE AND THEY ARE IN THE BEST COUNTY IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE AND CONGRATULATE COMMISSIONER JOHNS.

ON BECOMING AN FAC ADVANCED COUNTY COMMISSIONER LEVEL II GRADUATE.

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IT TAKES A LOT OF GOING INTO CLASSES AND ALL THAT AND I ADMIRE HIM FOR PUTTING IN THE TIME FOR THAT. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSION.

WE SET UP THAT ONE PERCENT SET-ASIDE I THINK MR. JONES MIGHT HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP.

OUT OF THE BUDGET EACH YEAR. AND TODAY, CAME IN HANDY. I APPRECIATE THAT.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO LISTENING TO BUDGETS FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> DID YOU REALLY MEAN THAT?

>> I ENJOY BUDGETS. >> I KNOW.

I DO TOO. >> WEIRD.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNS? >> THANK YOU MR. COMMISSIONER WALDRON. FOR THE RECOGNITION. I FEEL LIKE TRAINING IS IMPORTANT SO THAT I CAN BE THE MYTH DOMINIC BEST COMMISSIONER AGAIN BE.

I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM THE EXPERTS. .

THEY ARE VERY PRACTICAL. THAT IN FIVE BUCKS WILL GET YOU A COPY.

I BROUGHT MANY OF THOSE IDEAS BACK TO HER COUNTY OF THE BONDS OF MARRIAGE TALK ABOUT.

I DO WANT TO GET ACCLIMATED TO THE ORGANIZATIONS AND PROVIDED TRAINING TO THE COMMISSIONERS ACROSS THE COUNTY. THEY PROVIDE TRAINING TO ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF -- I MET THE STATE. -- I MEANT THE STATE. I THINK IT'S HELPING TO IMPROVE -- TO BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMUNITY. IT'S BEEN A JOY TO LEARN AND APPLY IT INTO SHARE THAT WITH OTHERS. ELON MUSK HAS MENTIONED THE THOUGHT OF MOVING HIS BUSINESS FROM CALIFORNIA POSSIBLY TO TEXAS.

AND WE HAVE MANY CLEAN INTEREST IS -- INDUSTRIES. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THE BOARD HAD ANY INTEREST IN SENDING A RESOLUTION ENCOURAGING HIM TO MOVE SOME PART OF HIS BUSINESS TO THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. WE HAVE A HIGH WORKFORCE.

WE HAVE A LOT TO OFFER. LOW TAXES AND THE LIST GOES ON. I CAN PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WOULD SHOW HOW ATTRACTIVE WE ARE. WHEN GOVERNOR SCOTT WAS IN OFFICE IN THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS OFTEN FRIENDLY BATTLED WHO WAS THE BEST IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS.

I DO HAVE SOME OR ALL OF THE TESLA ORGANIZATION BASED IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WOULD PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT OF BUSINESS AND IT'S A BUSINESS IS DIFFERENT FROM THE TOURISM THAT WE HAVE. I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE BOARD WOULD THINK ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I KNOW IT'S A LONGSHOT, BUT IF YOU DON'T -- YOU DON'T HIT THE MARK IF YOU DON'T SHOOT THE ARROW.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: I DON'T TAKE IT'S A LONGSHOT. I THINK IT'S REASONABLE REQUEST. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO.

THERE ARE OTHER INDUSTRIES THAT WE SHOULD BE REACHING OUT TO AS WELL.

I THINK A LOT OF MEDICAL -- ESPECIALLY PHARMACEUTICAL PRODUCTION WILL RETURN BACK TO THE UNITED STATES AND I THINK WE NEED TO DIRECT OUR ATTENTION TO THAT AS WELL.

MR. DEAN? >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS, THAT IDEA ELECTRIFIES ME WITH EXCITEMENT (LAUGHING).

>> I HAD TO SAY THAT. I'M TOTALLY ON BOARD. THAT'S A WONDERFUL SUGGESTION.

I TOTALLY SUPPORT IT. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY I 100 PERCENT SUPPORT THAT. WE SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR MORE BUSINESS ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW. IT'S -- I WAS LOOKING AT THIS HAND SANITIZER AND SAID MADE IN CHINA. . PART OF ME IS THINKING WE COULD MAKE THAT HERE. AND WE CAN. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT MAKE IT HERE NOW. LEGAL?

>> I WANT TO COMMENT ON I WASN'T QUITE SURE WHERE COMMISSIONER JOHNS WAS GOING TO GO. I DO THINK FIRST OF ALL IT COULD BE DONE AND IT COULD HIGHLIGHT I THINK ALL THE SORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVANTAGES OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. IT MAY -- WHETHER OR NOT IT ACTUALLY BROUGHT IN TESLA, I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY GET SOME ATTENTION, GENERALLY. AND IT ALSO COULD FOCUS ON THIS BOARD THROUGH THE COVET EXPERIENCE THAT THE PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE

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YOU KNOW, THROUGH YOUR ACTIONS. AND TO ME, JUST READING THE NEWS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE SENSES WERE THERE MIGHT'VE BEEN AN ISSUE WHERE TESLA IS CURRENTLY LOCATED.

SO, I WOULD PRESUME THAT THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE DESCRIPTION AS WELL.

>> WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS AT THE PROPER TIME, THAT I FEEL LIKE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS. I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THAT WOULD BE EMBRACED BY OUR COMMUNITY.

AND STILL CLOSE TO 60 PERCENT OF OUR RESIDENTS WORK OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY AT LIKE TO SEE MORE WORKING INSIDE THE COUNTY FOR CLEAN INDUSTRY AND TO MAKE THAT OFFER TO OTHER COMPANIES.

THERE IS A LOT OF BUZZ RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE CONSIDERING CHANGES IN HOW THEY CONDUCT THEIR BUSINESS AND WHERE THEY CONDUCT THEIR BUSINESS.

AND WHILE WE LIKE TO KEEP A LOW PROFILE THAT HER PARADISE IS SECRET, HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO EMPLOY THE RESIDENCE WE HAVE IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE -- (INDISCERNIBLE) --

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> ON THIS NOTE, I JUST LEARNED YESTERDAY THAT A BRITISH COMPANY, COX ENGINES, THEY MAKE LARGE DIESEL OUTDOOR MOTORS. THEY ARE CURRENTLY MANUFACTURING IN FORT LAUDERDALE AND THEY ARE MOVING THEIR FACILITY TO WORLD COMMERCE CENTER.

>> THAT'S GREAT NEWS. >> I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT IF I IT MIGHT INVOLVE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER JOHNS JUST TOUCHED ON.

>>CHAIRMAN SMITH: THANK YOU. ASK HOW FAST YOU WANT TO EXPEDITE THIS.

>> THE SOONER THE BETTER. >> MAY BE ASKED TO PRESENT A

PACKAGE? >> BY THE NEXT MEETING.

>> OKAY. MR. CHAIRMAN, THE PACKAGE WILL BE IN BUDGET MEETINGS SO BABY A LITTLE BIT LONGER DELAY TO GET THE FULL PACKET OUT AS TO WHAT THE SUBMISSION WOULD BE AND WHAT WE CAN PUT IN THERE FOR TWO REQUEST TO SEND IT TO THE CONTRARY, COUNTY.

BUT WE CAN GET SOMETHING BY THE FIRST MEETING IN JUNE.

>> A RED FOLDER. >> (LAUGHING).

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER JOHNS. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

>> I WANT TO MENTION WE WILL BE HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING NEXT TUESDAY THAT WILL BE AT 830 HERE -- 8:30 AM. WE DO BUDGET MEETINGS THIS WEEK.

WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. THEY ARE SCHEDULED -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG -- IT'S 8:30 AM TO 4 PM. IS THAT CORRECT? AT THE EGG CENTER.

>> I DO NOT HAVE THE SCHEDULE IN FRONT OF ME. I BELIEVE TOMORROW STARTS AT 830 BUT I THINK LIKE FRIDAY IN MAY END AT 3:15 PM AND STARTS AT 9 O'CLOCK.

BUT IT'S ROUGHLY IN THERE BETWEEN 830 AND 4 O'CLOCK. WE CAN EMAIL THAT OUT SO EVERYBODY HAS THE DATES IT'S DIFFERENT ON THE FRONT END OF THE BACKEND.

>> 9 AM TOMORROW. AND IT'S -- THE IMPORTANT THING -- (INDISCERNIBLE) --

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

>> I JUST WANTED TO ADD I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE STILL LISTENING, BUT SOMEHOW I'VE GOT A FEW PHONE CALLS THIS WEEK FROM PEOPLE WHO THINK OUR STATE OF EMERGENCY DECLARATION IS KEEPING THINGS CLOSED. AND I ASSURED THEM IT'S NOT. BUT IF WE CAN GET THAT OUT IN A PRESS RELEASE SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WE HAVE ENCLOSED ANYTHING.

WE ARE JUST DOING IT -- WE EXTEND IT SO WE HAVE DIFFERENT CAPABILITIES DURING THE THING, BUT WE ARE NOT -- A COUPLE PHONE CALLS I HAD WE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD -- US EXTENDING IT WITHOUT WE WERE EXTENDING SHORT-TERM RENTAL CLOSURES AND SPORTS CLOSURES, WHICH WE ARE NOT. IF WE COULD MAKE THAT CLARITY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> ADMINISTRATION?

>> NOTHING, SIR.

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