May 07, 2020 Planning and Zoning Agency

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>> ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

, BOTH HERE AND ONLINE. WELCOME TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY MEETING OF MAY TWAFNT 1:30 BY MY WATCH. WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED HERE. WE'RE GOING TO FIRST TAKE ROLL CALL. DR. MCCORMICK. DR. MCCORMICK, ARE YOU PRESENT ONLINE? I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING. DR. HILSENBECK.

>> YES, I'M PRESENT BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT TELEVISION NOT ON CHANNEL 3.

I CAN'T SEE ANY OF THE MEETING. >> OKAY. WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY LOOK INTO

THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> MR. WAINRIGHT IS HERE.

I CAN SEE HIM. I AM HERE. MS. PERKINS.

>> YES, HIGHLY I'M HERE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. LIMA I UNDERSTAND IS OUT

TODAY. AND MR. MATOVINA. >> I'M HERE.

PRESENT. DR. MCCORMICK. >> I WAS MUTED.

>> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. TOO BAD THAT ONLY LASTS FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT OUR ROLL CALL. NEXT UP IS READING OF THE PUBLIC NOTICES STATEMENT. THIS IS PRETTY EXCITING STUFF SO PAY ATTENTION.

THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW. THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TO THE AGENCY. OUR AREA OF JURISDICTION AND THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER COMMENT AT A DESIGNATE TIME DURING THE HEARING.

ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC DESIRING TO SPEAK WITH US INDICATE SO BY COMPLETING A SPEAKER CARD WHICH IS AVAILABLE IN THE FOYER. ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS MAY BE HEARD ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN. SPEAKER CARDS MAY BE TURNED IN TO STAFF. THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIME DURING THE MEETING ON EACH ITEM AND FOR A LENGTH OF TIME AS DESIGNATED BY THE CHAIRMAN WHICH SHALL BE THREE MINUTES.

SPEAKERS SHALL IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, WHO THEY REPRESENT AND THEN STATE THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIMONY.

IF THEY DO NOT, THE FACT THAT TESTIMONY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED BY THE AGENCY IN DETERMINING THE WEIGHT OR TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY. 2, IF A PERSON DECIDES TO ANNEAL ANY DECISION MADE WITH RESPECT TO MI MANNER CONSIDERED AT THE HEARING, SUCH PERSON WILL NEED A RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT I VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PRECEDING IS MADE WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL TO BE BASED.

ANY PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING SUCH AS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS, PHOTOGRAPHS OR WRITTEN STATEMENTS, WILL BE RETAINED BY STAFF AS PART OF THE RECORD.

THE RECORD WILL THEN BE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER BOARDS OR THE COUNTY MAY REVIEW IT AT ANY TIME FOR THE APPEAL RELATED TO THE ITEM. III.

BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH ITEM THEY SHOULD STATE WHETHER THEY HAVE HAD ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT OR ANY OTHER PERSON REGARDING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ITEM OUTSIDE THE FORMAL HEARING OF THE AGENCY. IF SUCH COMMUNICATION HAS OCCURRED, THE AGENCY MEMBER SHALL THEN IDENTIFY THE PERSON INVOLVED AND THE MATERIAL CONTENT OF THE COMMUNICATION. IV. CIVILITY CLAUSE.

WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE. WE WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO

THE ISSUES. WE WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS. >> WE WILL.

THANK YOU, MR. WAINWRIGHT. >> AND, MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, JUST FOR ONE MOMENT, THAT IS THE STANDARD KIND OF HEARING RULES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PROCEDURES FOR THE HEARINGS.

I WOULD SAY THE ITEM ABOUT THE SPEAKER'S CARD OBVIOUSLY FOR PEOPLE THAT MAY BE ATTENDING REMOTELY, PUBLIC SPEAKERS AND PARTICIPANTS, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE TO THEM. SO IF THEY DO THE CALL-IN NUMBER AND ARE IN THE QUEUE, CORRECT,

MR. CHAIR, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN. >>S THAT IS CORRECT.

I'VE GOT THE NEXT PUBLIC NOTICE TO READ IS THE VIRTUAL QUORUM AND REMOTE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

AS A PRELIMINARY MATTER, I AM MIKE KOPPENHAFER, CHIAO OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY.

PERMIT ME TO CONFER ANY BOARD AND STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT PHYSICALLY PRESENT CAN HEAR ME.

>> YES. >> LET'S SEE. MEMBERS, WHEN I HAVE CALLED YOUR

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STAFF, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE RESPOND IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

MS. BISHOP. MS. MAY? THANK YOU.

MR. MCCORMICK. >> PRESENT. >> MR. MORRIS.

>> PRESENT. >> TOO MANY MCCORMICKS HERE. ALICE.

>> PRESENT. >> ALL RIGHT. PETER.

WAVING. GREAT. INTRODUCTION TO THE MEETING WITH VIRTUAL QUORUM AND REMOTE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. GOOD AFTERNOON, THIS MEETING ON ST. JOHNS COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY IS CONDUCT CONSISTENT WITH GOVERNOR DESANTIS' EXECUTIVE ORDER NUMBER 20-16 SUSPENDED THE RAIMPLET PHYSICAL QUORUM AND PROVIDING FOR A VIRTUAL QUORUM DUTY TO CURRENT STATE OF EMERGENCY IN THE STATE.

GIVEN DWROWT BREAK OF THE NOVAL CORONAVIRUS COVID-19. IN ORDER TO NOTHER MITIGATE THE TRANS MIFGHTS CORONAVIRUS AND TO REDUCE RISK OF COVID-19 ILLNESS, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAS ADOPTED PROCEDURES TO CONDUCT MEETINGS USING REMOTE PARTICIPATION THROUGH EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION NUMBER 2020-3. SO THAT THE PUBLIC HAS A MEANS TO COMMENT DURING THE MEETING WITHOUT PHYSICALLY ATTENDING. ALONG WITH PRIOR COMMUNICATIONS, INCLUDING EMAIL, FUMBLE WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT BY TELEPHONE WHILE UNCLE WATCHING THE MEETING VIA G TV OR BY STREAMING POSTED ON THE COUNTY AS WEBSITE. THE WEBSITAL PROVIDE THE TELEPHONE NUMBER TO USE TO CALL INTO THE MAGNET MEETING. EVEN IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DO NOT PROVIDE COMMENT, PARTICIPATES MAY BE VISITATIONED THAT PEOPLE MAY BE LISTENING WHO DO NOT REQUIRE COMMENT AND THOSE PERSONS ARE NOT REQUIRE TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES.

EMPLOYEES NOTICE THIS ME GO IS BEATING RECORDED. FOR THOSE OF YOU CALLING IN TO COMMENT. IF YOU RECEIVE A BUSY SIGNAL, PLEASE CALL BACK.

IN ADDITION, CONTINUE TO WATCH G TV WHILE YOU ARE COMMENTING BECAUSE THE THREE-MINUTE TIMER WILL BE VISIBLE TO YOU. FINALLY, PLEASE MUTE YOUR PHONE WHILE YOU ARE AWAITING TO COMMENT. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THERE WILL BE A FIVE TO NINE SECOND DELAY IN THE VISUAL PRESENTATIONS, AND PERHAPS UP TO A 30-SECOND DELAY IN THE VERBAL RESPONSE TIMES.

IF WE EXPERIENCE ANY TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, WE WILL RECESS WHILE THEY ARE RESOLVED AND THEN RESUME THE MEETING. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT OUT OF THE WAY, UP

NEXT, MS. MORRIS. >> THANK YOU, SIR. I WANT TO SAY THE FOR THE RECOR, 2020, MIKE KOPPENHAFER DISCLOSE ODD FORM 8B THAT THERE WAS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR THREE AGENDA ITEMS DUE TO THE APPLICANT BEING A CLIENT OF HIS.

THE AGENDA ITEMS WERE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 2019-05, DURBIN PARK DOORPTION PUD 2019-12 DURBIN PARK AND AMENDMENT TO THE DURBIN CREEK ORDINANCE 2015-06.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

UP NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. THAT'S WHEN THE PUBLIC CAN SPEAK ON ANY ISSUE THAT IS NOT ON TODAY'S AGENDA. SEEING NONE IN THE ROOM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THEN WE ARE DONE WITH OR CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENTS. UP FIRST IS ITEM NUMBER 1 WHICH IS TO BE CONTINUED.

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THIS AND WE'LL VOTE. >> I'D OFFER A MOTION. WE HAVE ONE MOTION.

BILL, CAN I GET YOU TO SECOND THAT MOTION? >> SECOND.

>> I JUST MADE THE MOTION. >> NO, ARCHIE BEAT YOU TO IT. HE'S HERE.

HE HAS THAT TWO-SECOND DELAY. >> OKAY. I'LL SECOND IT.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 1 WHICH IS PUD 19-15 BROOK SIDE PRESERVE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THE ROLL CALL.

>> . DR. MCCORMICK, YOUR VOTE. >> YES.

>> DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES. >> MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MS. PERKINS.

>> YES. >> AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST EVERY DAY, EVERY MEETING MR. MATOVINA.

>> YES. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS TO

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GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. CYNTHIA MAY WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT. I WILL BE PRESENTING ITEM NUMBER 2 THIS AFTERNOON.

THIS IS A MINOR -- >> THIS IS RICHARD HILSENBECK. I THAN THE D. WANT TO SAY THE

COMMUNITY CHANNEL IS STILL NOT BROADCASTING. >> OKAY.

WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY WORKING ON IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. SORRY.

>> THAT'S OKAY. THIS IS A MINOR MODIFICATION FOR MURABELLA STATION.

THE REQUEST IS FOR THE MINOR MODIFICATION TO THE MURABELLA STATION PUD ON THE OTHER HAND 2017-48 AS AMENDED, AND THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE NORTHERN 15-FOOT AVERAGE DEVELOPMENT EDGE AND FOR THE SALE OF CONTROLLIC BEVERAGES IN A BONA FIDE RESTAURANT LOCATED NEAR A CHURCH. THIS SITE IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF STATE ROAD EXPEAN AND PACETTI ROAD AND IT'S ALONG MIR MURABELLA PARK WITE BOUNDARY OF THE MURABELLA COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER.

LOOKING AT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE PARCEL IS OUTLINED IN BLUE.

IT'S TUCKED INTO THE CORNER UNDER WHERE IT SAYS MURABELLA PARKWAY WHICH IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, AND THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL C USE TO THE EAST. IT IS A PUD AND IT'S ADJACENT TO MANY OTHER PUDS. THERE IS OR ZONING TO THE SOUTH. THIS IS THE AERIAL VIEW OF PROBABLY THE CURRENT SITUATION. YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING -- THE EXISTING SHOPS RIGHT TO THE NORTH OF IT. THIS PARCEL AND THE PARCEL THAT IS THE SUBJECT PARCEL ARE UNDER THE SAME OWNERSHIP AND WILL BE OPERATIONAL OR THAT'S THE HOPE WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS MINOR MODIFICATION THAT THEY WOULD FUNCTION TOGETHER. THE BUILDING IS TO BE LOCATED THREE FEET AWAY FROM THE NORTHERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY. THIS IS ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE MINOR MODIFICATION WHICH BOB AN ENCROACHMENT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE. THERE'S A COMMUNITY SPACE THAT WAS APPROVED THE WITH ORIGINAL PUD AND IT'S KIND OF ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE AND THIS WOULD BE LOCATED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE IN PART. IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN A BONA FIDE RESTAURANT TO BE LOCATED WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF A CHURCH, AND IT WOULD REDUCE THE BUILDING'S SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM 1300 SQUARE FEET TO 1100 SQUARE FEET.

AND IT WOULD CREATE THE ADDITION OF'S CONNECTION ON THE PARCEL TO THAT SITE TO THE NORTH, AND THIS WOULD BE IN THE BACK OF THE NEW BUILDING. THIS IS THE APPROVED SITE PLAN IN PLACE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE BUILDING -- WHOOPS.

IT IS GONE. OKAY. THE BUILDING IS ORIENTED IEFNED EAST-WEAPONS. HERE'S THE EXISTING BUILDING I POINTED OUT TO THE NORTH.

THERE ARE ACCESS POINTS FROM THE SOUTHEAST AND THE NORTHWEST. TO THE PARKING AROUND THE BUILDING. HERE'S THE PROPOSED LAYOUT WHERE THE BUILDING WOULD BE ORIENTED IN A MORE NORTH-SOUTH FASHION AND IN LINE WITH MARKETS AT MURABELLA STATIONS BUILDING WITH MORE OR LESS THE PUBLIC PARKING PRIMARILY IN THE FRONT AND ADDITIONAL PARKING TO THE REAR.

THEY'RE PROPOSING A 35-FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE, WHICH ACTUALLY MEASURES 40 FEET FOR THE MOST PART, TO THE RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE EAST. AND THE 15-FOOT AVERAGE DEVELOPMENT EDGE ON THE NORTH AND 20 FEET AROUND THE OTHER SIDES.

THE BUILDING ENCROACHMENT WHICH I MENTIONED WOULD HAPPEN IN THIS LOCATION.

THE MARKET ALSO HAVE A DEVELOPMENTING SO THEY WOULD BE TWO DEVELOPING ABUTTING EDGES THAT ACTUALLY WOULD BE INTENDED TO FUNCTION AS A SINGLE UNIT. AND THERE'S THE SITE PLAN AGAIN.

MURABELLA STATION PUD WAS APPROVED IN OCTOBER OF 2017 AND THEY COMMENCED DEVELOPMENT IN NOVEMBER OF 2018 WITH YUM PROVED COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN. THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE WAIVER THAT IS CURRENTLY REQUESTED WITH THIS MINOR MOD IF MODIFICATION TA PREVIOUSLY APPROVED REDUCED BUFFER THAT WENT FROM 20 TO 15 FEET WITH THE CURRENT APPROVAL MINIMUM, AND THAT'S ON THAT NORTH SIDE, AND CHANGES IT TO ALLOW IT TO BE AVERAGED, AND TO ALLOW THAT BUILDING TO END

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THE APPLICATION IS ALSO REQUESTING TO WAIVE THE RESTAURANT DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR ON-PREMISE ALCOHOL SALES WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF A SCHOOL AND CHURCH.

THE PROJECT IS APPROXIMATELY 96D THAT'S AS MEASURED FROM PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE.

THERE IS A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE VILLAGE CHURCH PROVIDED, AND THE SITE IS NOT WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF A SCHOOL PROPERTY, ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE MILL CREEK ACADEMY IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF STATE ROAD 16. SHOULD THE MINOR MODIFICATION BE APPROVED, THE TECHNICAL DIVISION PROVIDES THAT THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MEET ALL ENGINEERING AND DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS PER THE LANE PLANNING AND DEVELOPED. CODE. THE APPLICANT FOR A REZONING BEARS THE BURDEN OF DEMONSTRATING WITH COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT REQUIRED CONDITIONS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ARE MET, THAT THE REQUEST IS NOT INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND CHANGES ARE OTHERWISEQUIST MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

-- CONSISTENT WITH THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR MINOR MODIFICATIONS REQUIRES APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY, AND PURSUANT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHASING FROM 10046B, THAT WOULD BE A ZONING JAIRNS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS WHICH MAY BE PROCESSED AS A MINOR MODIFICATIONS USING THE CRITERIA FOR A ZONING. STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE OR PHONE CALLS REGARDING THIS REQUEST. AND SHOULD THE AGENCY FIND THE REQUEST FORE A MINOR MODIFICATIONS MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, STAFF HAS PROVIDED SIX CONDITIONS AND SIX FINDINGS OF FACT FOR APPROVAL.

THERE ARE ALSO FIVE FINDINGS PROVIDED FOR DENIAL. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION,

AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. >> OKAY.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, I THINK YOU HAD 1100 SQUARE FEET. I THINK IT'S 11,000 SQUARE FEET.

>> I SAID 1100. I KNOW I DID. >> THAT'S OKAY.

I SUIT THEIR SITE PLAN. >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT.

MS. TAYLOR, HOW ARE YOU TODAY IN. >> I'M DOING WELL, THANK YOU.

HOW ARE YOU? >> GOOD. GOOD TO SEE YOU

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. KAREN TAYLOR 77 SARAH GOSS A STREET.

AND WITH ME A LITTLE BIT TO THE BACK THERE ARE THE APPLICANTS WHICH I BARNEY SMITH AND GARY JOHNSON, WHICH DEVELOPED THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND ARE ALSO PLANNING TO DEVELOP THIS ONE. CYNTHIA GAVE A LOT SO I'LL TRY FOG THROUGH THIS FAIRLY QUICKLY.

I ALSO JUST FOR EX PAR TO A COMMUNICATION SINCE YOU ALL EMAILED YESTERDAY ASKING IF ANYBODY HAD ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS TO CONTACT ME, THE LIST THAT I HAVE FOR YOU ALL DON'T HAVE PHONE NUMBERS. THEY JUST HAVE EMAIL. SO I'M ASSUMING EVERYBODY GOT

THOSE. >> YOU SENT IT PHOTO COUNTY'S EMAIL ADDRESS IN.

>> YES. IT'S UNDER EACH OF YOURS LISTED. SO MAYBE THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE, THEN. THIS IS A NEW NORM FOR ME AND I DON'T NORMALLY SEND YOU THINGS BUT THIS IS YOUR FINAL DECISION VERSUS SOMETHING THAT MOVES ALONG.

ANYWAY, I'M STILL DECLARING EX PARTE FOR MY SIDE. SO BASICALLY THIS IS THE OVERALL AREA, AND YOU ALL ARE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THIS, AND YOU PROBABLY -- SOME OF YOU WERE ON THE BOARD WHEN WE GOT THIS APPROVED. AND THAT'S JUST A LITTLE CLOSER, AND IT KIND OF GIVES YOU THE CONCEPT OF THIS WHOLE AREA HERE THAT WAS DEVELOPED SEPARATE.

THE PUBLIX AND ALL OF THAT WAS DEVELOPED UNDER AN INITIAL PORTION OF THAT PUD.

THIS IS UNDER THE SECOND PART. THIS IS THAT PALM LAKES PUD. THIS LITTLE PARCEL AND THE FIRE STATION, WHICH IS TO THE SOUTH, WERE LEFT OUT OF THOSE PUDS. SO THAT'S WHY WE REZONED THAT TO PUD, AND NOW THAT BARNEY AND GARY ARE DEVELOPING IT, AGAIN,& THEY WANT TO CONTINUE THAT, THAT LINEAR BASICALLY ALONG MURABELLA PARKWAY. IT IS IN A RESIDENTIAL B WHICH ALLOWS PORT THE CHECIAL TYPE USES THROUGH THE PUD. -- AND THAT JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU THE SAME THING, THE ZONING. SO I'M PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE DETAILED BUT BASICALLY I THINK CYNTHIA GAVE THE YPPED. WE'RE ASKING FOR TWO DIFFERENT

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IT DOES ALLOW FOR INTERCONNECTIVITY. THE AIR PUD DID, THEIR P.

THIS PUD DID. BUT BASICALLY THEY HAVE A WIDE DEVELOPMENT EDGE ON THEIR SIDE, TOO, SO THERE STILL A LOT OF BUFFER BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.

AND AGAIN THAT REORIENTATION. AND THE BUILDING IS BEING REDUCED FROM 13,300 SQUARE FEET TO 11045. AND THAT WAS TO GET THAT BUILDING THAT THEY NEEDED, THAT BUILDING ORIENTATION. AGAIN, THERE'S NO CHANGES BEING MADE TO THE PUD TO THE NORTH.

AND THIS IS JUST A LITTLE CLOSER SITE AND IT GIVES YOU AGAIN, JUST FOR INTEREST'S SAKE, THE RETENTION FOR THIS PROPERTY IS TAKEN CARE OF WITH THE RETENTION THAT YOU SEE ABOVE HERE.

IT ACTUALLY GOES DOWN INTO THIS PARTICULAR AREA AS WELL. SHE WENT THROUGH THE SITE PLAN.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO. AND THE OTHER SITE PLAN, AS YOU CAN TELL, WE ORIENTED IT VERY DIFFERENT ON THE INITIAL, AND THIS ONE AGAIN TAKES THAT NORTH-SOUTH ORIENTATION.

THERE'S PARKING ON EACH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ADDITIONAL EXTRA PARKING. THERE'S FOUR EXTRA PARKING SPACES.

BUT THEY DIDN'T CONTINUE THOSE ADDITIONAL BACK HERE AND THEY LEFT THAT VERY LARGE BUFFER THAT'S IN THE BACK. SHE EXPLAINED THERE WAS ALREADY AN AN ENCROACHMENT HERE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING, AND THEN THAT BUILDING WHERE IT LEAVES THAT THREE FEET ON THE FRONT. JUST A NOTE AS WELL, CYNTHIA MENTIONED THAT THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS WERE APPROVED FOR THE OTHER DESIGN. AND SO THESE APPLICANTS WENT AHEAD AND FILED TO TAKE CARE OF THE MAR KUTAL LANE. SO THEY'VE ACTUALLY GOTTEN THEIR CONSTRUCTION PLANS APPROVED FOR THAT AND THEY'RE GOING TO START ON THAT THEY'VE WANTED TO GET THAT GOING. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WEREN'T HERE, THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE LIVING BEHIND THERE, WAS TO GET THAT CONNECTION.

IF YOU GO OUT THERE PHYSICALLY AND YOU LOOK AT THE AERIALS, YOU'LL SEE THAT PEOPLE DRIVE THROUGH THIS ALL THE TIME. SO THAT'S KIND OF A -- AS FOR THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE, IT GOES ALONG THROUGH OUR CODE, AND IT DOES ESTABLISH -- THERE IS A PROVISION IF IT'S WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF A CHURCH OR SCHOOL, AS CYNTHIA MENTION, IT'S NOT 1,000 FEET FROM THE VILLAGE ACADEMY BUT IT IS FROM THE VILLAGE CHURCH. AND IT'S ACTUALLY -- I TALKED WITH VALERIE, WHO HAS BEEN REVIEWING THIS, AND I HAD IT WRONG, SO 960 WAS WRONG.

IT'S ACTUALLY 940. SO I'VE GOT A DIAGRAM HERE THAT KIND OF SHOWS THAT.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE, YOU CAN SEE THE WAY THEY MEASURE FROM PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE. IN THE CASE OF THE SCHOOL, I MEAN EXCUSE ME, THE CHURCH, THE CHURCH IS WAY BACK IN HERE. AND IN THE CASE OF THE SCHOOL, OBVIOUSLY, THE SCHOOL IS QUITE FAR AWAY EVEN THOUGH IT'S WELL PAST THAT, AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE NUMBERS ON THERE.

AND IT'S JUST HOW THOSE -- HOW THAT CODE IS WRITTEN. AND AGAIN WE DO HAVE A LETTER FROM THE CHURCH, COULD BE TACTD THEM, AND THEY HAVE THE SAME -- CONTACTED THEM, AND THEY HAVE THE SAME WAIVER THAT WAS INCLUDED IN PUD FOR THE PROPERTY THAT THEY HAVE TO THE NORTH AS WELL AS THE OTHER RESTAURANTS AND THINGS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT OVERALL DEVELOPMENTWHEN YOU DO N THE PUD, IT DOES HAVE TO MEET THE VARIANCE REQUIREMENTS. AND SO I'VE KIND JUST PUT THIS UP HERE. THOSE ARE THE TERMS AND KIND OF GO THROUGH ALL THOSE ABOUT THE RELAXATION OF TERMS BECAUSE OF CERTAIN THINGS. I'M NOT GOING TO SIT THERE AND READ THROUGH THEM BUT I DO HAVE THEM IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE.

AND IT DOES ALSO STATE THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY CAN GRANT ZONING VARIANCES IF THEY'RE FOUND NOT TO BE CONTRARY TO THE PUB INTEREST, AND OWING TO SPECIAL CONDITIONS A LIR

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THAT IT WOULD BE CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE CODE.

THE SITE SEPARATED FROM THE CHURCH, AS I JUST DEMONSTRATED, BY QUITE A DISTANCE.

AND IN BETWEEN IT IS A PHARMACY, MAJOR GROCERY STORE, OTHER BUSINESSES, INCLUDING A LIQUOR STORE, OTHER RESTAURANTS THAT SERVE ALCOHOL, AND IT'S SEPARATED BY A MAJOR ROADWAY.

THERE IS NO INTENT TO DO THIS BECAUSE OF THEIR TRYING TO REDUCE THE COST OF THE DEVELOPING THE SITE. JE THEY JUST WANT THE SAME USES THAT ARE ALLOWED BY THE OTHER AREAS. SO THE DIFFERENCE IN ADDING ALCOHOL SALES WITHIN THE 1,000 FEET WON'T INCREASE CONGESTION OR ANY OTHER PUBLIC HAZARDS.

AND BASICALLY WON'T CHANGE ANY RELATIONSHIP FOR THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

AND ACTUALLY WITH THIS REORIENTATION WE'VE ACTUALLY INCREASED THE BUFFERING A LITTLE BIT. THERE WAS IN THAT ORIGINAL PLAN, THERE WAS A DUMPSTER THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH CLOSER TO THEM. SO OTHER THAN THAT THERE ARE CHANGES TO THE PUD THAT DO NOT REQUIRE A VARIANCE OR A WAIVER, BUT JUST TO POINT THEM OUT, THEY BASICALLY ARE THE REDUCTION IN THE BUILDING SIZE. THERE'S ACTUALLY A REDUCTION IN THE PERVIOUS SURFACE AREA, AN INCREASE IN THE IMPERVIOUS. THERE'S A LITTLE SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE AS WE WENT AROUND THAT, AND A LITTLE SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE OPEN SPACE.

AND I ALREADY EXPLAINED TO YOU THAT THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS WERE APPROVED FOR THE ROADWAY PORTION ALREADY. THIS IS THE MARKETS MURABELLA THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS TO THE NORTH. THIS IS OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THAT SAME SHOPPING CENTER. THIS IS ALONG STATE ROAD 16. THIS IS THE SECONDARY PART OF THAT. SO THEY HAVE OTHER DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.

I'VE INCLUDED A COPY OF WHAT THD SITUATION. THIS PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT IN THE PALM LAKES PUD, HAS TO HAVE APPROVAL BY THE PALM LAKES FOLKS, SO THIS ARCHITECTURE DESIGN HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THEM. AND THAT IS JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME OTHER IDEAS OF BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING THAT TO LOOK LIKE.

BUT WE DO FEEL IT'S IN CON FORM ANSWER WITH RESIDENTIAL B FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

THE PLAN STILL HAS THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE, STILL HAS THE REQUIREMENTS.

AND THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS SIMILAR AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA.

AND AS SUCH I PUT ALL MY LITTLE THINGS FOR THE RECORD, BUT WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE, BUT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES HAVE THE COMP PLAN.

IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA. AND AS CYNTHIA MENTIONED, ALL DEVELOPMENT WILL ADHERE TO THE SET FORTH BY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT AND CODE ZONING, AND WE ARE REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. A HOUSEKEEPING NOTE, FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE TRYING TO WATCH ONLINE, COMCAST IS WORKING ON THE ISSUE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND RATHER THAN GO TO GTV YOU

CAN GO TO THE COUNTY WEBSITE AND WATCH US ALL HERE ONLINE. >> GTV IS CURRENTLY NOT WORKING.

>> I HAVE JUST BEEN TOLD THAT COMCAST IS NOW BACK UP. ALL RIGHT.

GREAT NEWS. YOU CAN FIND US ON TWO CHANNELS. WE GET COMMERCIAL MONEY FOR ANY OF THIS? OKAY. THANK YOU, KAREN.

SORRY TO DIVERGE THERE. >> ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE THE LANDSCAPE PLANS,

TOO, IF ANYBODY WAS CONCERNED. >> LET'S GO THROUGH OUR CHECKLIST, SEE IF ANYONE HAS A

QUESTION FOR YOU. DR. MCCORMICK, QUESTION? >> NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. BUT JUST A COMMENT ABOUT EX PARTE.

I DIDN'T RESPOND -- I DIDN'T SEE TECHS PART A MESSAGE FROM KAREN -- DIDN'T SEE THE EX PARTE MESSAGE FROM KAREN BUT I HAVE BEEN OUT IN THAT AREA. THAT'S WHAT I DO WHEN I'M NOT STAYING AT HOME. I STAY IN CAR AND DRIVE AROUND AROUND==.

SO I WAS OUTS BY OUT BY THAI GOT A LOOK AT IT. NO COMMENTS.

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>> THANK YOU. DR. HILSENBECK, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?

>> I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THERE'S A REAL --

>> CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? YOU BROKE UP. >> IT'S A BAD ECHO.

>> A BAD ECHO. SORRY ABOUT THAT. MR. WAINRIGHT, QUESTION?

>> YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. MS. TAYLOR, THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALL CLEAR EXCEPT FOR WHERE THIS

SETBACK REDUCTION IS. WHERE IS THAT? >> ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE

PROPERTY. >> THAT MUCH I GOT. >> SO IT'S BASICALLY THIS IS THE PROPERTY LINE, AND SO IT'S THAT, WHERE YOU YOU SEE THE DASHED LINE, THAT'S DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IT. THAT'S TEN FEET THERE AND BASICALLY THREE FEET OF IT ARE

LEFT GREEN AND THEN THE BUILDING IS ENCROACHING SEVEN FEET. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. MS. PERKINS, QUESTION OR COMMEN COMMENT?

>> NO QUESTIONS. >> MR. MATOVINA? >> NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

BUT I DO HAVE TO DECLARE EX PARTE. I HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH GARY JOHNSON, THE APPLICANT, THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE, AND HE JUST WENT OVER SOME OF THE

DETAILS OF THE SUBMITTAL. >> THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL -- DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, KAREN? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM?

>> YES, WE DO. KATIE NAPLES AND DAVID NAPLES. ARE YOU HERE? IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

>> HELLO. >> HI. >> MY NAME IS KATIE NAILS.

THIS IS MY HUSBAND DAVID NAILS WE LIVE AT 185 MAR TEW SHAW LANE SO WE ARE THE HOUSE THAT WOULD FACE THIS BUILDING THE MOST. WE JUST HAVE A COMMENT THAT WE LIKE FOR THE DEVELOPMENTAL EDGE TO EITHER HAVE CEDAR OR CYPRESS TREES BECAUSE RIGHT NOW KIEV A RESTAURANT THAT WE FACE THAT WE HEAR ALL OF THE TRAFFIC. WE HEAR ALL OF THE PEOPLE. THERE IS ALCOHOL SALES AND THERE IS NOT AS A SUFFICIENT NATURAL BARRIER CURRENTLY. AND WE KNOW SEVERAL OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE FELT THE SAME WAY AND HAVE HAD ACTUALLY HAD ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE CLIENTELE.

AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE A COMMENT AS WELL. ONCE THAT ROADWAY IS DEVELOPED, WHICH I KNOW EVERYONE WILL BE EXCITED ABOUT, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF SPEEDERS RIGHT NOW THAT LIKE TO GO FAST, AND MY HUSBAND LIKES TO BIKE IN MORNINGS AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD LIKES GO TO GO OUT AND PLAY, I THINK WE HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT HOW FAST THE DRIVERS WILL BE

GOING ONCE IT IS DEVELOPED AND NOT THE DIRT ROADWAY. >> DAVID NAPLES.

>> CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. >> SORRY.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THE MINOR MODIFICATION, LIKE MY WIFE WAS JUST SAYING. WE DO LIVE IN THE HOUSE THAT IS THE FIRST AS YOU COME UP THROUGH THE ROAD ON MERCUTIO FURTHER SOUTH. SO OUR CONCERN WAS SIMPLY, ONE, IF WITHIN THAT SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY, IF MAYBE THERE COULD BE SOME, AS MY WIFE SAID, SOME

GREENERY, SOME MORE TREES UP THERE. >> CEDAR OR CYPRESS.

>> THANK YOU. AND THEN, TOO, JUST A CONCERN ABOUT FINISHING OFF THAT ROAD BECAUSE EVEN AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW WITH IT IS JUST BEING A DIRT ROAD, PEOPLE COME FLYING THROUGH THERE, AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WERE ANY PLANS TO SET UP -- I'D AI SPEED OU ABOUT BUT WE DON'T REY WANT SPEED BUMPS BECAUSE WE'LL HEAR THEM ALL THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT, BUT IF THERE WAS ANY PLAN AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT ROAD, IF THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME WAY TO MINIMIZE TRAFFIC AS FAR AS THE SPEED COMING THROUGH THERE. THOSE WERE OUR TWO MAIN CONCERNS. WE DON'T OTHERWISE OBJECT TO THE MINOR MODIFICATION.

WE JUST WANTED TO ASK THE APPLICANTS SINCE THEY'RE HERE TODAY IF THEY HAD ANY PLANS FOR

THAT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A SEAT.

WE'LL SEE IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS. DO WE HAVE ANY HERE?

NONE. DO WE HAVE ANY ONLINE? >> NO.

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. KAREN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAYBE

ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. >> ABSOLUTELY. ONE THING I DIDN'T MENTION, AND THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN HERE WHEN WE GOT THE ORIGINAL APPROVED, BUT THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN

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SO YOU'LL KIND OF BE -- EVEN SPEED BUMPS HAVE A CERTAIN REQUIREMENT AND BECAUSE OF ENGINEERING, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THEY CAN DO REGARDING SPEEDING. BUT WE'LL CHECK DID.

TIME. SO WITH THAT, I THINK THAT HOPEFULLY WILL HELP WITH THEIR CONCERNS, AND WE DEFINITELY WILL LOOK INTO WHETHER THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO WITH THE

ROADWAY. >> THANK YOU. IT LOOKS LIKE A VERY ROBUST SITE

PLAN, I MEAN LANDSCAPE PLAN. >> IT IS. JAY DIVINE.

>> STILL DRAWS BY HAND, I THINK. ALL RIGHT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> YES? >> I AM PREPARE TO MAKE A MOTION IF ARCHIE HASN'T ALREADY.

>> IF YOU CAN HANG ON FOR JUST A SECOND, WE'VE GONE THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH REBUTTAL. NOW WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY FOR A DISCUSSION OR FOR A MOTION.

GO AHEAD, BILL. >> ALL RIGHT. MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF MINOR MODIFICATION 2020-03 MURABELLA STATION, A REQUEST FOR A MINOR MODIFICATION TO THE MURABELLA STATION PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE 217-48 AS AMENDED TO ALLOW FOR THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE NORTHERN 15-FOOT AVERAGED DEVELOPMENT EDGE FOR THE BUILDING TO ENCROACH 7 FEET INTO

THE NORTHERN SETBACK. >> BILL, IF YOU WANT TO READ -- >> FOR A COMMUNITY SPACE TO BE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE, AND FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN A BONA FIDE RESTAURANT LOCATED WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF A CHURCH, LOCATED IN NORTHWEST ST. JOHNS COUNTY NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF STATE ROAD 16 AND PACETTI ROAD, ALONG MURABELLA PARKWAY, ON THE BOUNDARY OF THE MURABELLA COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING SIX

CONDITIONS AND SIX FINDINGS OF FACT. >> WE HAVE A MOWING.

>> AMEN. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE'S SECOND FROM MR. WAINRIGHT. BILL, FOR THE NEXT TIME JUST READ THE APPROVAL ON THE FIRST

PAGE. THEY'RE MUCH SHORTER. >> OKAY.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE SPEAK UP. OTHERWISE, WE'RE GOING TO VOTE.

HEARING NONE, LET'S VOTE. GOING THROUGH THE LIST, DR. MCCORMICK.

>> YES. >> WHY HILSENBECK. >> YES.

>> MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES.

MS. PERKINS. >> YES. >> AND MR. MATOVINA.

>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS.

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>> YES. I'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF ECHOING AND I HAVE MY VOLUME ON THE GTV NOW, SO I DO APOLOGIZE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CAUSING ITTR PALM VALLEY CHILD CARE.

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AND THE TRIANGLE IS YWCA. IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT OF THE SLIDE AGAIN I DON'T HAVE A PIRKLE CIRCLE AROUND IT BUT EXACTLY DUE EAST OF THE CHILD DAYCARE IS THE SHELL DAILIES WHERE THEY HAVE ALCOHOL SALES, HOWEVER, THEY MADE THE EXEMPTION.

THEY ARE NOT CONSIDERED -- THEY DON'T NEED TO BE 1,000 FEET AWA. THE REQUEST IS FOR CONVENTION -- THE PUD DOES NOT ALLOW PRIVATE SCHOOLS BUT IT ALLOWS NEIGHBORLY COMMERCIAL USES WHICH INCLUDES PRIVATE SCHOOLS AS A SPECIAL USE, SO THEREFORE THIS APPLICATION IS TREATED HAS A APPLICATION. THE LDC CRITERIA THAT IS MET BY THIS PUBLICATION -- AND THERE ARE NO -- AS PROVIDE BY FLA STATUTE. NEXT SLIDE IS PROCEDURE PLAN FOR THE DAYCARE. NEXT SLIDE. THE PLANNING AND ZONING -- THE PUD WAS APPROVED IN 1996. AND AT THE TIME -- IT WAS CONSTRUCTED UNDER COMMERCIAL PLAN.

AND THERE ARE WAIVERS REQUESTED IN THE APPLICATION. NEXT SLIDE.

THE OPPOSITE -- THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REVIEW. THEN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE THE ANALYSIS OF CHANGES IN THE PLAN TO BE DEVELOPED.

THIS IS A MINOR MODIFICATION. -- >> MR. CHAIR.

>> KIM, CAN YOU HOLD ON FOR JUST A SECOND. >> .

>> STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE OR PHONE CALLS REGARDING THE REQUESTED MINOR

MODIFICATION. NEXT SLIDE. >> KIM.

>> THE AGENCY FINDS THAT THE REQUEST FOR MINOR MODIFICATION MINMOD 20 MEAN-09 MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LDC. THEY HAVE PROVIDED SIX CONDITIONS, SIX FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL. FIVE FINDINGS OF FACTOR PROVIDED FOR DENIAL. THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT IS ON THE CONFERENCE CALL. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE IN PERSON SO I WILL

STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. >> MR. CHAIR, MICHAEL ROBERTSON.

THE COMMUNICATION WASN'T VERY CLEAR BUT SHE'S FINISHED HER PRESENTATION.

MAYBE WE CAN GET THROUGH WITH QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY FOR STAFF, BUT MAYBE FURTHER IF WE HAVE STAFF THAT'S BREAKING THROUGH, WE CAN READ THROUGH THE SLIDES TO MAKE SURE THAT

EVERYBODY HEARS IT CLEARLY IF YOU AGRE WITH THAT. >> NOW THAT COMCAST IS BACK UP AND YOU CAN READ EVERYTHING ONLINE, SHE PRETTY MUCH READ THAT.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, TO EXPEDITE, IS THE APPLICANT ONLINE?

I'M SORRY. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS IS TO T TOMS WITH THE BURR FOREMAN LAW FIRM ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. IT APPEARS I'M ALSO GETTING THE ECHO THAT INTERRUPTED KIM'S

PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU. >> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD

TO THAT PRESENTATION, SIR? >> WELL, GIVEN THE PROBLEM THAT WE SORT OF HAVE HERE, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. WE DO THIS AS NOT JUST VIET JUST A MINOR MODIFICATION.

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>> SIR, ARE YOU STILL ON? WHY DON'T WE DO THIS. WHILE HE'S TRYING TO COME BACK ON, THIS IS FAIRLY CUT AND DRY, IN MY OPINION. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM

THE AGENCY MEMBERS? LET'S GO THROUGH THE LIST HERE. >> MR. CHAIR, WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT COULD YOU DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE AND SITE VISITS, PLEASE.

>> SURE. I DRIVE BY THIS THING EVERY DAY. I CONTEMPLATED GOING TO THIS THING YEARS AGO WHEN I HAD SMALLER KIDS, BUT IT'S A FINE AREA.

ANY EX PAR TO A TO EX E. GOING THROUGH THE LIST, DR. MCCORMICK MI QUESTIONS OR EX PARTE? TO DECLARE? HE'S PROBABLY MUTED HIMSELF.

DR. HILSENBECK, ANY EX PARTE OR QUESTIONS? IS ANYBODY ONLINE? MS. PERKS INS, ARE YOU ONLINE? WE ARE NOT GETTING ANY RESPONSE FROM ANYBODY, SO --

>> ARE IN CHAIR WITH MAYBE A SUGGESTION TO RECESS FOR TEN OR FIVE, PETER?

TEN MINUTES, IF POSSIBLE. >> ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO GO ON A

>> ALL RIGHT. WE ARE BACK IN RECESS -- I'M SORRY.

WE'RE BACK IN ORDER HERE. SORRY FOR THE LONG RECESS. THERE WERE SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. I UNDERSTAND WE'VE GOT CAPABILITIES FOR EVERYBODY, STAFF AS WELL AS MEMBERS, AS WELL AS PUBLIC LINED UP. SO WHERE WE WERE WAS MS. DEL RANCE HAD JUST COMPLETED HER PRESENTATION,AL BEE T A LITTLE BIT CHOP EFT PALM VALLEY CHILD DEVELOPMENT CENTER WHICH IS DEVELOPMENT ITEM NUMBER 3 AND WE WERE IN TO MEMBERS TO TALK WITH THE EX PAR TO A TO DECLARE AND IF THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS. THEN WE'LL OPEN IT BACK UP TO THE APPLICANT WHO ALSO GOT CUT OFF AND CONTINUE THE PROCEDURE HERE.

SO GOING BACK TO STAFF, DO YOU U HAVE ANY EX PAR TO A TO DECLARE OR -- I'M SORRY, MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY EX PARTE TO DECLARE? OLD HOLD ON, BILL. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS

FOR STAFF. >> THIS IS BILL MCCORMICK. EX EX PARTE I JUST SPOKE TO NICE WHO IS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD ABOUT THIS PIEMENT THAT'S IT. THANK ITEM.

THAT'S IT. >> MILLION HYMNAL BECK. >> I HAVE NO COMMENTS AND MOW

EX PARTE. >> . >> .

>> I HAVE ONE CONCERN ABOUT THIS ITEM. >> IS IT A QUESTION FOR STAFF?

>> YES. >> OKAY. MS. DEL RANCE, ARE YOU ON, JUST

TO CONFIRM? >> YES, I'M HERE. >> THANK YOU.

ARCHIE, YOUR QUESTION. >> THAT SITE ON ON A CURVE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS BUT IT'S RIGHT A CURVE, AND I LOOKED AT THE SITE PLAN, THE ROUGH SITE PLAN THAT'S IN THE PACKAGE, AND I WANT TO ASK ONE OPEN QUESTION. ARE WE CONCERNED WHO IS LOOKING

AT THE TRAFFIC ISSUE AS PEOPLE COME IN AND OUT OF THIS SITE? >> KIM, DID YOU WANT TO FIELD

THAT? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY -- TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.

IT SOUND MORE LOOK A LIKE AL QUESTION. >> IF I CAN ANSWER THAT, THIS IS LITERALLY TWO MINUTES FROM MY HOUSE. BY THE YMCA UNTIL RECENTLY EVERY DAY. IT HAS BEEN A DAYCARE FOR LIKE 15 OR 20 YEARS THERE.

SO THERE IS A BEND IN THE ROAD BUT THERE'S A SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET, THERE'S AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DOWN THE STREET. I'VE NEVER SEEN AN ACCIDENT THERE.

THAT'S MY TRAFFIC EXPERIENCE. MR. KOPPENHAFER HAS NO QUESTIONS.

MS. PERKINS, ANY QUESTION OR EX PARTE TO DECLARE? >> NONE.

>> MR. MATOVINA. >> NONE. >> THANK YOU.

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>> AGAIN, THIS IS SCOTT PALMA. I THINK WOULD I ONLY SAY ONE POINT, IF I CAN TAKE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO, BUT THE ECHO IT MIGHT BE MORE PROBLEMATIC FOR ME TO SAY ANYTHING MORE THAN STAFF PRESENTED. IF THEIR PROFESSIONAL VIEW AND THE MEMBERS' CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT.

ASSUMING THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, LET'S OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

DO WE HAVE ANY IN THE BILGD? MR. WAINRIGHT? >> THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS

AND NOBODY IN CALL WAITING. >> LET'S JUST DOUBLE-CHECK WITH THE IMAGINE FOLKS.

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> ALL RIGHT. THEN WE ARE BACK WITHIN THE AGENCY. WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT OR WE CAN MAKE

A MOTION. MR. WAINRIGHT? >> I'D OFFER A MOTION.

>> PLEASE DO. >> I'D OFFER A MOTION TO APPROVE MINMOD 2019--09 PALM VALLEY CHILD DEVELOPMENT, A REQUEST FOR A MINOR MODIFICATION TO THE ODOM'S MILL PUD ORDINANCE 2005-61 AS AMENDED TO ALLOW FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL GRADES 1 TO 5 CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 2.03.17 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SPECIFICALLY LOCATED AT 185 LANDRUM LANE, ADOPTING SIX CONDITIONS AND BASED ON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT TO SUPPORT APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. WAINRIGHT.

WE HAVE A SECOND DRIVE-IN SERVICE MCCORMICK. >> MR. CHAIR, BEFORE THE AGENCY VOTES I WANT TO MAKE A VERY TECHNICAL COMMENT AND ADVICE. THE CHAIR'S DESCRIPTION OF THE AREA WILL PERTAIN TO THE EX EX PARTE BASICALLY CONTACT AND EXPERIENCE, AND IT ITSELF SHOULD NOT BE USED A EVIDENCE FOR THE AGENCY'S DECISION. THE EVIDENCE YOU HAD SH BE THE STAFF REPORT, STAFF DESCRIPTION, AND THE APPLICANT AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT THE BOARD OR THE

AGENCY HEARD. THANK YOU>> WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND.

DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE SPEAK UP.

OTHERWISE, WE'LL VOTE. HEARING NONE, LET'S GO TO AHED VOTE.

WE'LL GO THROUGH THE ROLL CALL. DR. MCCORMICK. >> YES.

>> DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES. >> MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES. MS. PERKINS.

>> YES. >> AND MR. MAT VENO. >> YES, BUT JUST ONE TIME.

>> YOU HAVE AN ECHO, TOO, I GUESS. EMOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS THEN.

ITEM NUMBER 3 IS PUT TO BED. >> MR. CHAIR. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> BEFORE YOU PROCEED, I HAVE A TECHNICAL COMMENT THAT WAS SHARED WITH ME FROM MIS.

THEY SAID THAT THEY BELIEVE SOMEBODY MAY HAVE THEIR PHONE ON A SPEAKER, AND IF THAT SPEAKER PHONE IS ON, IT'S GOING TO CAUSE AN ECHO THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE -- THROUGHOUT WITH EVERYONE, SO IF SOMEONE DOES HAVE THEIR PHONE ON A SPEAKER WEEKS, IF THEY COULD TAKE IT OFF THE SPEAKER --

>> I WILL SAY IT DOES NOT MATTER IF MY PHONE IS ON SPEAKER OR NO NOT.

>> AGAIN, IF WE CAN PUT IT OFF THE SPEAKER, MAYBE THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

[Item 4]

ITEM NUMBER 4, MR. KELLY. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> .

>> KELLY WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT THIS IS VOANG 2019--23 TORTOISE HOLDINGS REZONING.

THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY .44 ACRES FROM COMMERCIAL, NEIGHBORHOOD TO RESIDENTIAL, MANUFACTURED/MOBILE HOME OR SINGLE FAMILY. THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WHICH IS SITUATED BETWEEN CASA INNER A ROAD AND A WRVMENT SOUTH.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY SITUATED IN THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL C, AND IT IS ZONED COMMERCIAL, NEIGHBORHOOD. BASED ON THE APPLICATION MATERIALS PROVIDE BY THE OWNER, THEY INTEND TO CONSTRUCT ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WHICH IS CURRENTLY COMPRISED OF TWO PLATTED LOTS.

UNDER THE CURRENT CN ZONING A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCY NOT ALLOWED UNLESS THE USE IS ACCESSORY TO A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT. PROVIDED HERE IS THE PROPOSED

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HOME WILL BE CROWCTD LOT CLOSEST TOES A1A WITH THE LOT LOSING CASA ROAD BEING CLEARED AND CONVERTED INTO YARD SPACE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS COMPRISED OF TWO LOTS THAT WERE PLATTED IN 1968 AS A PART OF THE TREASURE BEACH SUBDIVISION. COMBINED THESE LOTS MEASURE 82 WY 250 WITH AN APPROXIMATE LOT AREA OF 20,500 SQUARE FEET, BOTH OF WHICH EXCEED THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS OF THE RMHS ZONING DISTRICT. SINCE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DOES HAVE FRONTAGE ON TWO PUBLIC STREETS, IT IS CONSIDERED A THROUGH LOT PER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. BOTH OF THE FRONT YARDS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MEET A 25-FOOT SETBACK WAS REQUIRED IN RHMS ZONING. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN AN AREA COMPRISED MOST OF I RESIDENTIAL USES, AND A MAJORITIES OF NEARBY COMMERCIAL LOTS ARE IMPROVED WITH RESIDENTIAL USES AS AN ACCESSOR ACCESSORY.

THIS IS A COMPATIBILITY MAP THAT SHOWS THE SIMILAR REZONINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS REZONING FRS CN TO RMHS ALONG THIS SESSION OF CAST TAU INNER A ROAD AND THERE HAVE BEEN REZONINGS ON BOTH CAST TAU INNER A AND A1A SOUTH. PROVIDED HERE IS A TABLE SHOWING THE TYPES OF USE CATEGORIES THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED. THE RECOMMENDED PMED PRPPEDZ REZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR TO RESIDENTIAL USE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED. THIS REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION AND THE PROPERTY IS IN QUORNTION WITH OTHER RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

IF APPROVED THIS WOULD ELEMENT THE CURRENTLY COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARAL OWD UNDER THE C NMENT ZONING DISTRICT. STAFF DID RECEIVE ONE APO THAT A POSE THE RESIDENCE IF THE STRENGTHS WAS TO BE A MOBILE HOME AND APPROVING IF IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

OVERALL STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUEST SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND HAS PROVIDED THE AGE WITH FOUR FINDING FOR APPROVAL AND FIVE FOR DENIAL IN IS STAFF'S PRESENTATION. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS ON THE PHONE LINE, AND STAFF WILL STAND BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT SAY HELLO ON THE PHONE.

>> YES, SIR. I AM HERE. DANA.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO MR. KELLY'S PRESENTATION? >> I DO NOT.

MR. KELLY, THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT

HERE IN THE BUILDING? >> NO. >> CAN WE CHECK AND SEE IF WE

HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT QUIEWD UP QUEUED UP. >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

GREAT. THANK YOU. WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. I HAD ONE, MR. KELLY. IT DEALS WITH THE SAFETY ISSUE.

ARE WE DOING ANYTHING SPECIAL FROM A PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHERE YOU'RE NOT BACKING UP ONTO A1A

IN THE RESIDENTIAL -- IN A RESIDENTIAL LOT THAT FRONTS IT? >> AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ACCESS TO THAT LOT FROM A1A WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED THROUGH DOT SINCE IT IS A STATE ROW.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING OR YOUR CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC GOING IN.

>> I'M CONCERNED ABOUT SOMEONE BACKING UP A CAR OUT OF A1INGA PULLING OUT OF THE DRIVE KAYE

WAY. >> I DON'T BELIEVE TECHNICAL OR TRAFFIC HAD ANYTHING ON THAT,

EITHER, AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> MICHAEL.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> MIKE ROBERTS. CAN WE SEE IF ANYBODY FROM TECHNICAL IS ON THE LINE, PHONG, GYN . GO AHEAD, DICK.

>> IN RESPONSE TO THAT QUESTION, DOT, WHEN THEY DO THEIR DRIVEWAY PERMITS, THAT IS A CONVERSATION THEIRS, THEY ALSO LIKE TO PRECLUDE PEOPLE FROM BACKING INTO A1A, SO THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE EVALUATED AT TIME OF PERMIT. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NO CODE FOR THE COUNTY THAT WOULD MANDATE THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD

CERTAINLY LOOK FOR. >> ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS LIKE HE'S BUSY.

ALL RIGHT. >> WE HAVE AN ENGINEER IN TRAINING ON THE LINE.

>> INTERN. ALL RIGHT. MR. WAINRIGHT, YOU HAD A

QUESTION, YOU SAID? >> YES, MR. KELLY, IS THERE ANY IRREVERENCE DIFFERENCE IN THE

TYPES RESIDENCES IN TWUKS CONSTRUCTION WHEN CN AND RMHS? >> NO.

I BELIEVE IN CN THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED -- TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN A MOBILE HOME AND JUST A REGULAR

SINGLE FAMILY HOME? >> I'M TRYING TO ASK IT MORE GENERALLY, BUT THAT'S PART OF

THE QUESTION. >> YES. IN CN THE RESIDENTIAL USE IS ALLOWED AS AN ACCESSORY USE. IF THEY WANTED TO DO A MOBILE HOME, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO A

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HOME IT'S AN ACCESSORY USE TO THAT MAIN COMMERCIAL USE. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO BACK TO THE MEMBERS WHO ARE ON THE PHONE FOR ANY

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. DR. MCCORMICK. >> .

SEEING NONE, WE'RE GOING TO SCHIM. DR. HYMNALS HILSENBECK.

>> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. >> MR. WAINRIGHT ASKED HIS. I HAVE ASKED MINE HELP

MS. PERKINS. >> NONE. >> AND MR. MATOVINA.

>> NONE. >> NO QUESTIONS. OKAY.

THEN I AM LOOKING FOR A MOTION OR OTHER COMMENTS. >> I'LL OFFER A MOTION IF NO ONE

ELSE WISHES TO. >> PLEASE DO, ARCHIE. >> I'D OFFER A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZ 2019--23 TORTOISE HOLDINGS REZONING, A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY .44 ACRES FROM COMMERCIAL, NEIGHBORHOOD CN TO RESIDENTIAL, MANUFACTURED/MOBILE HOME OR SINGLE FAMILY RMH PRR END S CLOSE.

FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> THANK YOU, MS. PERKINS. ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE SPEAK UP NOW. OTHERWISE WE'LL VOTE.

HEARING NONE, WE'LL VOTE. GOING THROUGH THE LIST, DR. MCCORMICK.

>> YAY. >> DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES.

>> MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES.

MS. PERKINS. >> YES. >> AND MR. MAT MAT MAT VEEN.

>> YES. >> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. THAT'S IT IS FOR ITEM NUMBER 4.

[Items 5 & 6]

MS. DEL RANCE. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YEP.

>> I HEAR A ECHO. THIS IS AGENDA ITEM 5 AND 6. THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN -- 2019--08 AND THE REZONING 20 BE 2020-04. I'M NOT ON THE SPEAKER PHONE.

I'M ON MY CELL. THE REQUEST IS FOR A SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT FUTURE LAND USE FROM REZ C TOWN CENTER MIXED USE AND HAS AN ACCOMPANYING REZONING APPLICATION TO MIXED USE, AND THAT IS TO MAKE THE ZONING CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE.

THE FIRST PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2806 COASTAL HIGHWAY. IT SHOWS NEXT SLIDE.

AND THAT IS THE LARGE YELLOW TRIANGLE. IT IS JUST NORTH OF VILANO ROAD.

THE SECOND PROPERTY IS THROUGH CORRUNA STREET LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CORRUNA STREET AT THE CORNER OF DRIVE. THAT IS THE SMALL YELLOW RECTANGLE TOWARDS THE BOTTOM.

NEXT SLIDE. THE REQUEST TO AMEND THE COMP PLAN INCLUDES TEXT AMOUNTEDMENT THAT WOULD LIMIT THE DESTINY OF BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES TO THEIR EXISTING DENSITY OF -- PER ACRE. HOWEVER, IT WOULD BE DEEMED ABLE TO -- UNDER THE VILANO STREET RESIDENTIAL EXCHANGE UNIT PROGRAM BUT THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO EXTEND UNITS.

SO THE OVERALL OF THE TOWN CENTER AS AN AREA AS ADOPTED IN THE MAP OF 2004 WOULD NOT INCREASE ABOVE THE 100-UNIT LIMIT THAT IT CURRENTLY HAS. BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE -- WELL, ACTUALLY THE NORTHERN PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE THE NORTH COASTAL OVERLAY DISTRICT.

THE LOWER -- THE SMALLER PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY EXEMPT FROM OVERLAY BECAUSE IT IS A TWO-FAMILY DWELLING. AFTER THESE ARE REZONED, THEY WILL BOTH BE IN THE VILANO BEACH

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THIS SHOWS THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE PROPERTY. BLUE IS TOWN CENTER.

NEXT NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE FUTURE, PROPOSED FUTURE LANDSCAPE.

AND THE NEXT SLIDE IS ZONING. NEXT SLIDE. THE TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY.

WHEN THE WAS ESTABLISHED, THE COUNTY CONDUCTED A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS BASED ON THE POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT. THERE IS ADEQUATE RESERVATION TO ACCOMMODATE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IF THESE WERE TO BE ADDED. NEXT SLIDE. THERE'S CAPACITY FOR WATER AND SEWER. THERE ARE NO REQUIREMENTS FOR RECREATION OR OPEN SPACE IN TOWN CENTER. AND THERE IS A FIRE STATION WITHIN FIVE MILES AND AN ACCREDITEDDABLE WATER SUPPLY. NEXT SLIDE. THE PROPERTIES ARE SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL BUT ARE -- THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN IS PART OF THE APPLICATION WILL REQUIRE APPROVAL OR FINAL APPROVAL FROM THE NORTH COASTAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AS THEY OVERSEE BOTH OVERLAY DISTRICTS. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL MAP FROM 2004 THAT IS LIMITED TO 186 GEL6 DWELLING UNITS. THE RED ADDITION WILL NOT ADD TO THAT 186. THAT ORIGINAL MAP WILL STAY INTACT.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS SHOWS THE USES THAT ARE GOING FROM REZ B TO MIXED USE, AND THEY ARE ADDING THIS PARCEL, OFFICE PROFESSIONAL, GENERAL BUSINESS, TOWN CENTER AND MULTI--- NEXT SLIDE. THESE APPLICATIONS WERE NOT REQUIRED TO GO BEFORE THE NORTH COASTAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. AS OF THE CREATION OF THE PRESENTATION, STAFF RECEIVED SEVERAL PHONE CALLS, FOUR EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE IN OPPOSITION.

HOWEVER, I BELIEVE WE HAVE RECEIVED MORE CORRESPONDENCE SINCE THEN, AND THEY HAVE BEEN MOSTLY IN OPPOSITION. NEXT SLIDE. IF THE AGENCY FINDS THAT IT MEETS TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT. NEXT SLIDE.

SIMILARLY WITH THE REZONING APPLICATION, IF THE AGENCY FINDS IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT, STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THE APPLICANT IS HERE. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU, KIM. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT STEP FORWARD.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. SHANNON OS VADE OH WITH MATTHEWS DESIGN 7 WALLEDO STREET, ST. AUGUSTINE. THIS IS THE VINNANO BEACH ADDITION AND PLANNERS FOR THIS PROJECT ARE MYSELF AND KAREN TAYLOR AND ALSO HERE IN THE AUDITORIUM TODAY ARE THE OWNERS OF THESE PROPERTIES, JOHN A AND AS WELL AS EXPERL RENE JENSEN. -- EARL AND RENE JENSEN. BEFORE I GET INTO THE APPLICATION THIS IS A BIT OF A UNIQUE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION AND REZONING IN THAT IT IS PART OF THIS ESSENTIAL VILANO BEACH DOWN CENTER SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE TOWN CENTER IS. IT WAS MEANT AND CONSTRUED TO BE A WATERFRONT AND MAIN STREET COMMUNITY. IT'S A MIXED USE AREA WITHIN

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IT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED. IEND KIND OF HARD TO SEE IF IT'S SMALL LIKE THAT BUT YOU'LL SEE PHOTOS AS I GET FURTHER ALONG IN THE PRESENTATION. BUT THERE IS A TWO-STORY COMPLEX THERE THAT WOULD BE REDEVELOPED. AND THEN THE OTHER PARCEL, PAR TELL 2, MR. ARBIZZANI IS 2.08 ACRES AND IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PUBLIX.

I DID WANT TO REITERATE EVEN THOUGH WE'RE PRESENTING THESE TOGETHER AND THE COMPATIBILITY IS SIMILAR WE WOULD SPLIT THESE INTO TWO SEPARATE ORDINANCES IN CASE THERE ARE SINCE THEY'RE NOT ADD JAINT TO EACH OTHER. WITH THAT I WILL GO TO PARCEL 1, JENSEN PROPERTY.

SO LOOKING IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THIS ONE IT'S AT THE INTERSECTION OF ANAMA DRIVE AND CORRUNA STREET. I DIDN'T WANT TO POINT OUT YOU CAN SEE ITTY BETTER ZOOMED IN HERE, THERE'S THIS 20-FOOT WIDE UNOPENED ALLEY THAT'S MAINTAINED FOR DRAINAGE RIGHT NOW BY ST. JOHNS EXPROIRNTION THAT OFFERS A LITTLE BIT OF SEPARATION BETWEEN THE EXISTING OCEAN VIEW LODGE HOTEL FROM THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST.

AND THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW. THIS IS FACING SOUTH.

AND THEN THIS IS THAT U. DUPLEX SITE. THIS IS THE SITE THAT'S UNDER YOUR REVIEW TODAY FOR VARIOUS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS. FOR THE PURPOSES OF ANALYSIS AND REVIEWING THIS FOR THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, WE LOOKED AT TWO IDEAS, ONE WOULD BE FOR A 12-ROOM HOLT EXPANSION AND THE OTHER WOULD BE FOR A SIMILAR SIZED EXPANSION WITH EIGHT HOTEL ROOMS AND 2,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, JUST TO GIVE A COUPLE OF IDEAS OF WHAT COFFEESBLY GO ON S COULD FEASIBLY GO. THEN PARCEL 2, THE ARBEZZANI THIS IS BETWEEN MULTI-STORE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. DEVELOPMENT. AND THE MAGIC BEACH HOTEL.

THIS IS COMMON OWNERSHIP. I WANTED TO POINT THIS OUT BECAUSE THIS PARCEL RIGHT HERE IS UNDER COMMON OWNERSHIP BUT IT IS WITHIN THE TOWN CENTER DISTRICT AS THE BOUNDARY LIES TODAY, HOWEVER, THE BUILDING -- THE URBAN FORUM THAT'S THERE ISN'T QUITE COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT EXISTED IN THE REGULATION FOR THE TOWN CENTER AND IT'S SO SMALL THAT IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE THAT WORK, TO DO A TWO OR THREE OF-STORY BUILDINGS ON ITS OWN.

SO THE IDEA WOULD BE IF THIS PARCEL 2 WERE TO COME INTO THE TOWN CENTER, THAT THIS COULD BE REDEVELOPED IN TANDEM TO HAVE SOMETHING MORE COHESIVE AND FILL OUT THAT CORNER.

MIXED USE OFFERS A LOT OF DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES. I'LL GET INTO A COUPLE OF SCENARIOS FOR THIS PIECE AS WELL AS WE GET INTO THE IMPACT ANALYSIS.

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HERE'S THE PLIKS. SO THIS REALLY -- PUBLIX. THIS REALLY IS THE ENTRY INTO THIS TOWN CENTER MIXED USE DISTRICT SO WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THAT PROPERTY INTO THAT SAME DESIGN REGULATION AND CODE. THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU A GENERAL OUTLION OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY. HERE'S THE BUILDING THAT IS CURRENTLY WITHIN THE TOWN CENTER AND THEN HERE'S THE VACANT LOT. SEW L. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO AMEND BOTH THESE PROPERTIES FROM RESIDENTIAL C TO TOWN CENTER MIXED USE DISTRICT. AND THEN THOSE SITES WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN REGULATIONS OF THIS CORRIDOR AS A WHOLE.

AND THEN WITH THAT A COMPANION APPLICATION TO BRING THE RG-1 AND RG-2 PARCELS INTO THE TOWN CENTER MIXED USE ZONING, WHICH WOULD BE COMPAT INLAND WITH THAT LAND COMPATIBLE WITH THAT LAND USE AMENDMENT. I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT THIS LAND USE AMENDMENT. THERE'S A FOR A VIBRANT MIXED USE SPACE, AND AS A MENTION VERY LIMITED VACANT PARCELS LEFT. I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T CATCH THIS UNTIL I WAS WORKING ON THE PRESENTATION BUT I DID HAVE A SLIGHT ERROR IN MY NARRATIVE PF I THINK I HAVE SOMEWHERE AROUND 11% VACANCY. THERE WAS A MIX-UP WITH ONE OF THE PARCEL ADDITIONS.

IT'S ACTUALLY RIGHT AROUND 8% WHICH IS EVEN LESS. VERY SMALL SUPPLY OF MIXED USE TOWN CENTER OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE LEFT, NOT JUST HERE BUT AS A COUNTY AS A WHOLE, WE ARE PREDOMINANTLY A SUBURBAN TYPE OF COMMUNITY, SO THIS WOULD JUST OFFER A LITTLE BIT MORE DIVERSITY IN THE TIEPS TYPES OF URBAN FORM THAT CAN TOM TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND REALLY PROVIDE GREATER DIVERSITY OF DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS. AND WHAT I'M GETTING AT HERE IS WITHIN RESIDENTIAL C LAND USE DESIGNATION, THE ONLY MEANS TO DO A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING OTHER THAN RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE TO DO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AND WITH THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT YOU'RE LIMITED TO 12,000 SQUARE FEET PER NET ACRE FOR SPACE, AND WITHIN THIS SORT OF MAIN STREET VILLAGE STYLE DISTRICT THAT DOESN'T QUITE WORK WELL TO DO EXACT COMPACT. ALSO WITH THE PUD AS YOU KNOW IT'S VERY PRESCRIPTIVE AND DESCRIPTIVE SO THIS TOWN CENTER AMENDMENT WOULD OFFER A LITTLE MORE FLESKT TO DEVELOP IN LINE WITH WHAT THE MARKET WANTS, AND ALSO ACTUALLY SORT OF BAKED INTO THE TOWN CENTER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CORD SOME SPICIAL SPECIFIC RATIOS OF THE YPES OF USES IN ORDER TO GREAT BALANCE WITHIN THE CORRIDOR, AND THIS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THAT IF IT WERE TO BE AMENDED TO TOWN CENTER. ALSO, BY ADDING BOTH THESE PROPERTIES, IT WILL HELP TO PAY BACK SOME OF THE CRA BONDS AND PUT SOME OF THAT MONEY BACK INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE CORRIDOR AS A WHOLE. FOR PARCEL 1, THE JENSEN PROPERTY, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THESE JUST SEPARATELY FOR A MOMENT.

IT WOULD BE VERY LOGICAL TO INCLUDE THAT PROPERTY AS IT'S ALREADY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE OCEAN VIEW LODGE, WHICH IS PART OF THE TOWN CENTER, AND WE SEE A COUPLE OF INSTANCES WHERE I THINK IT WAS PERHAPS INTENDED TO BE PART OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DISTRICT EARLIER.

WE SEE IT IN THE REGULATORY PLAN. THIS PARCEL IS ACTUALLY INCLUDED. AND WE ALSO SEE IT IN THE MASTER DRAINAGE SYSTEM PLAN THAT WAS MADE FOR THE TOWN CENTER. IT WOULD COMPLETE OUT THE BLOCK AND ALLOW FOR AN EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING SUCCESSFUL HOTEL FOR NEW OPPORTUNITIES. AND THIS COULD BE HOTEL ROOMS, COFFEE SHOP, GIFT STORE, ANY OF THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWABLE WITHIN THE TOWN CENTER.

FOR PARCEL 2 THE ARBIZANI PROPERTY IT WOULD PROVIDE FOR THE SAME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THAT ENTRY AND ALLOW 4 A DOAVMENT PLAN WITH THE ADJACENT SITE WHICH WOULD BE TOO SMALL TO DEVELOP THAT WAY ON ITS OWN. AND SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THERE'S ABOUT 22.9 TOTAL DEVELOPABLE ACRES, AND AGAIN ABOUT 1.79 ACRES THAT ARE CURRENTLY VACANT.

ONE OF THOSE IS THE OUT PARCEL TO THE PUBLIX, AND THEIR THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OF SPOTS HERE TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF VILANO ROAD THAT ARE STILL VACANT, BUT FOR THE MOST PART THE TOWN CENTER IS DEVELOPING OUT. IN TERMS OF CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I THINK IT MIGHT BE SOMEWHAT OBVIOUS THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO CREATE URBAN SPRAWL.

THESE LAIGZ FOR THE TOWN CENTER WERE MEANT TO DO THE OPPOSITE AND CREATE A COMPACT, COHESIVE

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IT WOULD GIVE A MICE NICE OPPORTUNITY FOR INFILL, TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CREATED WITH A SPECIFIC FORM-BASED REGULATIONS THAT ARE WITHIN THE VILANO TOWN CENTER OVERLAY DISTRICT IN THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD RESPECT THE EXISTING NATURAL RESOURCES ALONG THE COAST BY COMPLYING WITH ALL ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS. ONE MORE THING I DID JUST WANT TO MENTION IS IT OFFERS A DIVERSE RANGE OF USES TO DEVELOP MORE EXACTLY SO THAT WE CAN DIDN'T COMPACTLY SO THAT WE CAN BETTER MEET THIS GOAL AND HAVING MORE PROPERTY MEANS THERE ARE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TOW FILL OUT THAT BALANCE THAT WE'LL GET TO IN JUST A MOMENT HERE.

IN TERMS OF COMPATIBILITY AND BEING COMPLEMENTARY TO THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT, AS I HAD MENTIONED WITH THE MAIN STREET HAS A TRADITIONAL VILLAGE STYLE DEVELOPMENT THAT FEATURES MIXES OF USES, AND PART OF THIS IS THAT'S KIND OF HARD COATED INTO THE CODE IS ADVANTAGE ACTIVE GROUND FLOOR SPACE SWEB A LOT OF RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR, MIXED USE BUILDINGS, AND THIS IS TO CREATE A COMFORTABLE STREET SPACE. I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO ALL THESE DETAILS BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT AND WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET, BUT ESSENTIALLY THERE'S THREE BUILDING TYPES YOU CAN CHOOSE FROM, ALL OF TWO WHICH ARE TWO TO THREE STORIES, AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 40 FEE. FEET IP KNOW THERE WAS CORRESPONDENCE THAT CAME AROUND FROM NEIGHBORHOODS CONCERNED WITH HAVING 50-FOOT BUILDINGS OR SKYSCRAPERS, AND I JUST WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE HEIGHT, THE WAY THE HEIGHT IS DESCRIBED IN TOWN CENTER A LITTLE BIT MORE THOROUGHLY SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. NO VARIANCE WOULD BE ASKED FOR FOR THIS APPLICATION. IT'S JUST TO BRING THE EXISTING BUILDING INTO THE TOWN CENTER.

AND HOW THE HEIGHT WAS FORMED WAS TO HAVE 40 FEET OF OCCUPIABLE SPACE.

SO A 40 FOOD BUILDING HEIGHT WHERE THE FIRST FLOOR WOULD BE 12 FEET, AND THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR EITHER RETAIL OR PARKING UNDERNEATH. EVEN MORE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, IF A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING WERE TO BE BUILT, IT'S THREE STORIES, THEY WOULD STILL WANT THE 12 FEET JUST IN CASE IN THE FUTURE THAT WERE TO BE REDEVELOPMENT AND HAVE RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR. NOW, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL TEN FEET THAT'S ALLOWABLE FOR THE ROOF SPACE, AND THAT'S THE AREA RIGHT IN HERE FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

SO THAT'S FOR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT, SLOPE OF ROOF, THE ARCHITECTURAL TYPE FEATURES, BUT IT IS SEPARATE PRESIDENT 40-FOOT MAXIMUM HEIGHT REQUIREMENT. AND THEN THIS IS THAT REGULATORY PLAN I MENTIONED. EACH OF THE AREAS IN THE VILANO TOWN CENTER HAVE TO MEET ONE OF THE THESE THREE BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS. AND HERE'S -- I JUST THINK THIS IS INTERESTING. SO HERE'S THAT PARCEL THAT I MENTIONED, JENSEN'S PROPERTY THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THAT REGULATORY PLAN. AND THEN GETTING BACK TO THE BALANCE OF USES, HERE IS THE BREAK-OUT OF WHAT THE POLICY WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MANDATES FOR THE TOWN CENTER, SO THEY WANT TO HAVE A HEALTHY BALANCE OF RETAIL, RESIDENTIAL, HOTEL AND CIVIC. AND THEN WORKING WITH STAFF WE WE CAME UP WITH SOME DIFFERENT BUILD-OUT NUMBERS OF WHAT THAT WOULD EQUATE TOP. IMPORTANT TO NOTE FOR HOTELS THE SQUARE FEET IS BASED ON THE ACTUAL HOTEL ROOM SQUARE FOOTAGES.

AND SO THEN WE LOOKED AT, OKAY, WE'RE ADDING ABOUT 9% LAND AREA. CAN WE TAKE THOSE SAME RATIOS AND APPLY THEM AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE. BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION, AND KIM TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT IN HER PRESENTATION.

THERE IS A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS APPLICATION AS IT APPLIES TO THE PROPERTY, AND THAT WOULD BE THAT THE BASE DENSITY WOULD NOT SURPASS WHAT EXISTS TODAY WITHIN RESIDENTIAL C WHICH IS FOUR DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, AND SO THAT IF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WERE TO BE DEVELOPED WITH ANYTHING MORE THAN FOUR UNITS PER ACRE, IT WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH TRANSFER DEVELOPMENT RIGHT WITHIN THE TOWN CENTER AS A RECEIVING ENTITY ON THE RESIDENTIAL EXCHANGE PROGRAM. SO IN ESSENCE, THE TOWN CENTER'S RESIDENTIAL DENSITY WILL NOT INCREASE AT ALL WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS AMENDMENT. SO LOOKING AT JUST SOME DIFFERENT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS, AS I MENTIONED FOR THE JENSEN PROPERTY, HERE YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE THE EMPTY SPACE IS. THIS IS WHERE THE EXPANSION COULD HAPPEN TO HAVE THE 12 HOTEL ROOMS OR EIGHT ROOMS AND 2,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL.

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AND THEN YOU WOULD COME THROUGH, AND THEN HERE WOULD BE YOUR ADDITIONAL PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT SPACE. AND THEN YOUR EXIT HERE. WE DID HEAR FROM ONE CORRESPONDENT THAT WAS CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC ON KARUNA STREET SO THAT'S WHY YOU DO NOT SEE AN ACCESS COMING DIRECTLY OFF CRUNEA. THAT GIVES YOU ANO PERSPECTIVE OF THE AREA THAT WOULD LIABLE BE DEVELOPED WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS AMENDMENT.

SO LOOKING AT PARCEL 2, A ARBIZZ NAIRKS' PROPERTY, THERE'S A NUMBER OF SCENARIOS YOU COULD DO FOR THIS BUT FOR IMPACT ANALYSIS, WE LOOKED AT ONE WHICH WOULD BE 11,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AND 25 HOTEL ROOMS, AND THEN ANOTHER SCENARIO THAT WOULD LOOK AT 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AND SCENE UNITS. IN THAT CASE YOU'D BE MAXIMIZING THAT TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. AND THIS GIVES US JUST KIND OF A SAMPLE HAVE WHAT THAT SITE PLAN COULD LOOK LIKE. AS I MENTIONED WE TALKED ABOUT BUILDING OUT THIS CORNER SO THAT WE FILL OUT THIS AREA WITH A TWO-STORY STRUCTURE ON EITHER SIDE.

THE PARKING WOULD BE SANDWICHED IN BETWEEN AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A LARGER BUILDING AGAIN FOLLOWING THE BUILDING LINE THAT'S ALREADY SORT OF BEEN CREATED WITH THE EXISTING SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT, NOT GETTING TOO CLOSE TO THE COAST. AND WHATYOU CAN'T SEE IN THIS SITE PLAN IS THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE A TWO-STORY BUILDING WITH THE PARKING UNDERNEATH.

YOU JUST CAN'T SEE THE PARKING UNDERNEATH BUT AS YOU YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE A LOT OF SITE CONSTRAINTS WITH IT GETTING NARROW TOWARDS THE FRONT SO THAT'S HOW WE WERE BEST ABLE TO MAXIMIZE THE SITE FOR THIS PURPOSE AND FOR IMPACT ANALYSIS. AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT SOME THINGS ON THIS PIECE IN PARTICULAR IN TERMS OF YOU ARE PAN FORUM.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THREE-STORY BUILDINGS AROUND THIS AREA, EVEN ONES THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THE TOWN CENTER DISTRICT, AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE A POINT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE VERTICALLY. SO YOU'VE GOT SOME THREE-STORY CONDO HOMES AND HOTELS.

OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC LICKS ACROSS THE PUBLIX.

THE ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH HOUSE AND THEN THE HAMPTON INN. AND HERE I TRIED TO GET A COUPLE OF PHOTOS AS WELL. YOU CAN SEE IT FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

IT'S JUST WITH THAT TRIANGULAR CONFIGURATION BUILDING THREE STORIES, IT WOULD JUST BE UNFEASIBLE I THINK TO MEET ALL THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S WHY WE LOOKED A HAVING THE FIRST FLOOR, QUOTE/UNQUOTE, AS SORT OF THE PARKING AREA, AND THEN TWO STORIES ON TOP.

IN TERMS OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS, THERE WERE NO PROTECTED ANIMAL SPECIES OR PLANT SPECIES FOUND ON THIS PARCEL. IT IS COASTAL SCRUB.

AND I SHOULD MENTION ON THE OTHER PIECE, ON JENSEN'S PIECE THERE WAS NO ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT REQUIRED SINCE IT'S A DEVELOPED PIECE OF PROPERTY. IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH, I WANTED TO MENTION WE DID HOLD A SCRONL TARE COMMUNITY MEETING ON DECEMBER 18TH OF 2019.

IT WAS PART OF MAIN STREET MONGTH MEETING THAT'S HELD AT THE HAMPTON INN TO SHARE THIS PROJECT AND GATHER FEEDBACK. AND WE DID RECEIVE RECENTLY FEEDBACK FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. TRAFFIC AND EVACUATION WERE PART OF THAT HEIGHT, WHICH WE ADDRESSED IN A LITTLE BIT EARLIER DENSITY WHICH WE'VE TWAWKSD THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.

AND THEN PERMEABILITY AND DRAINAGE MANAGEMENT. SO ON THESE OTHER TWO IN TERMS IMPACT I DID WANT TO MENTION IS THE GOOD NEWS IS THE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE IS BUILT AND BOTH LOTS ARE INFILL OPPORTUNITIES. WE HAVE HAD SOME RECENT IMPROVEMENTS AT THE CONVERGENCE OF SAN CEERLS AND MAY STREET LEADING TO THE VILANO BRIDGE.

AND THEN I WANTED TO PROVIDE THE TOTAL COMMITTED PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC NUMBERS HERE FOR REFERENCE. LOOKING AT 56% UTILIZATION FOR A1A, 93% FOR VILLAIN ORCS ROAD.

AND IN EACH CASE WE WHAT THE MAXIMUM TRIPS WOULD BE FOR BOTH SCENARIOS AND AT THE MAXIMUM WE ARE STILL WITHIN THAT THRESHOLD. IN TERNLS OF DRAINAGE, THERE WAS A MASTER SYSTEM THAT DWEASTLESD SPECIFICALLY FOR THE TOWN CENTER BACK IN 2005. AND IT WAS BUILT TO WITHSTAND A CAPACITY 90% IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA. AND THAT WAS PLANNED FOR -- THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS OF CALCULATING THE AREAS OF THE TOWN CENTER, BUT IN THIS CASE THEY LOOKED AT 25 ACRES WERE 22.7 ACRES BEING IMPERVIOUS COVER.

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THEY WILL FILL OUT TO CREATE EVEN MORE VIBRANT BEACH VILLAGE CENTER.

AND THEY'LL HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DEVELOP WITH USES MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE MARKET AND BALANCING USES AS IDENTIFIED IN THE COMP PLAN. AND THE IMPACT ANALYSIS FINDS THAT ADDING THE PROPERTIES WOULD NOT OVEREXTEND THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

BOTH PROPERTIES ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND THEY'RE BOTH CONTIGUOUS JUST TO THE TOWN CENTER BOUNDARY. AGAIN AN ORDINANCE WOULD BE PREPARED FOR EACH PROPERTY SEPARATELY, SO THERE'S FULL FLEXIBILITY ON THE AGENCY AND BOARD'S ACCOUNT FOR CONDITIONS OR CONCERNS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO ADDRESS SEPARATELY. AND WITH THAT, I WILL STOP

UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. >> ALL RIGHT.

I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH A COUPLE. SO THE NORTHERN PARCEL, THE TRIANGULAR PIECE, YOU'RE PROPOSING THE FIRST LEVEL BE PARKING AND THEN TWO FULL

STORIES ON TOP OF THAT, CORRECT? >> THAT'S TRUE. AND AT THIS POINT THIS IS VERY CONCEPTUAL. WE REALIZE THAT THIS IS JUST A MAP CHANGE AND WE WOULD NEED TO REVIEW WITH THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WHEN AN ACTUAL PLAN COMES INTO PLAY, BUT WE WANT TO TRY TO LOOK AT WHAT WOULD BE THE OPTIMUM SITE LAYOUT TO MAKE IT WORK.

>> OKAY. WHAT'S THE -- IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS VERY CONCEPTUAL.

AS YOU KNOW, WE LIKE TO HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE PROPOSE THERE.

IS IT A HOTEL ABOVE ON THOSE TWO FLOORS ABOVE THAT PARKING OR A CONE OR WHAT?

>> YEAH, SO WHAT WE WERE THINKING IS -- LET ME GO BACK. TO THE SITE PLAN.

SO IF YOU CAN PICTURE WITH THE WHAT SCENARIOS, MORE THAN LIKELY IF YOU WENT WITH THAT HOTEL OPTION, IT WOULD BE HERE AND THEN YOU'D HAVE THE RETAIL, THE TWO-STORY RETAIL IN THESE TWO SPACES, AND THEN WITH THE RESIDENTIAL MORE THAN LIKELY THE RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE HERE AND THEN YOU'D HAVE THE RETAIL. SO THE RETAIL WOULD ALWAYS BE WHAT WE'RE THINKING ANYWAYS.

YOU WOULD HAVE THE RETAIL TOWARDS THE FRONT TO ACTIVATE THIS CORNER, AND THEN HAVE

EITHER THE HOTEL OR THE RESIDENTIAL FURTHER EAST. >> AND YOU'RE PRESUMING THAT THE MASTER STORM WATER PLAN THAT WAS DONE BY RS&H IS GOING TO ACCEPT THE IMPERVIOUS FROM THIS

PROPERTY? >> YES. NOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE AN ENGINEER DRAWING AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE ALL OF THE NUMBERS WITH, WEEK BUT ON OUR -- WORK, BUT ON OUR PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THAT WAS FACTORED INTO THAT ORIGINAL ANALYSIS THAT THESE TWO PROPERTIES WOULDN'T

TRIGGER ANY KIND OF MAXIMUM THRESHOLD >> THE FOLKS HAD A PRETTY STRONG PRESENCE. THEY'VE BEEN HERE A NUMBER OF TIMES AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW.

THE VILANO FOLKS. WHAT WAS THEIR OPINION OF EXPANDING THAT AREA?

MAYBE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON THE CALL HERE. >> YEAH, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE THAT WERE PLANNING ON CALLING IN TODAY. WHEN WE HAD OUR MEELGT MEETN DECEMBER, IT WAS MOSTLY INFORMATIONAL. WE DIDN'T GET ANY STRONG POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE FEEDBACK. IT WAS MORE OF JUST TO SHARE OUR IDEAS AND THERE WASN'T A WHOLE

LOT OF QUESTION AT THAT POINT. >> BUT YOU HAVEN'T HAD ANY OTHER COMMUNICATION WITH THEM, WITH THOSE FOLKS? I TOGETHER THE WOMAN'S NAME. SHE'S COME HERE A NUMBER TIMES.

>> I SPOKE WITH VIVIAN BROWNING SEVERAL TIMES, AND I THINK SHE IS PLANNING ON CALLING IN THIS AFTERNOON. SHE IS IN FAVOR OF THIS ADDITION.

SHE THINKS IT WOULD FILL OUT THE DISTRICT NICELY. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR HER.

I KNOW SHE MENTIONED THAT WHEN THE TOWN CENTER BOUNDARY WAS FIRST CREATED, IT SORT OF FOLLOWED THE NATURAL EXISTING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE THERE, ZONINGS THAT WERE

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IT'S JUST THE FACT OF YOU HAD TO DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND SOMEWHERE WHEN IT WAS FIRST CREATED. BUT SHE DOES FEEL THAT THIS WOULD MAKE A NICE ADDITION, AND IT REALLY IS AN ENTRY, ESPECIALLY AS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE, YOU'VE GOT THE PUBLIX ACROSS THE STREET, AND THE BRIDGE IS JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER NORTH OF HERE, SO THIS IS THE ENTRY CORRIDOR INTO THE MAIN PART OF THE VILLAINO TOWN O TOWN CENTER.

WE WERE DID THINGS HISTORICALLY -- THE TOPIC HAD COME UP BEFORE, BUT EARLIER, IN EARLIER YEARS IT WAS STILL SORT OF DEVELOPING AND A RIL LITTLE NEW TO BE THINKING ABOUT NEW PROPERTIES. THAT'S NOT THE CASE TODAY. IT'S BUILDING OUT.

SO I THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO START TO CONSIDER SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONS.

>> ALL RIGHT. SORRY I WAS SELFNESIA TRYING TO GET SOME ANSWERS.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE GET IN WITH THE AGENCY JUST SO WE CAN EXPEDITE THIS SINCE WE'RE RUNNING LATE. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER'S

HERE? ARCHIE? >> YES.

>> I HAVE TWO PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS. SALLY O'HARA.

IF YOU CAN COME UP HERE. MS. O'HARA, NICE TO SEE YOU. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS. WE KNOW YOUR NAME. >> YES, THANK YOU P I'M SALLY O'HARA. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF VILANO BEACH MAIN STREET ORGANIZE, 190 VILANO ROAD IS THE ADDRESS OF THE AREA. I AM OOH HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE ACTIVITIES TODAY ON NUMBER 5 AND NUMBER 6 AND READ INTO THE RECORD AN AVEL PRO, AND I'LL LEAVE IT -- AN APPROVAL, VILLAINO BEACH MAIN STREET BOARD OF DIRECTORS DECLARED A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THIS ON BEHALF OF THE VILLAINO BEACH MAIN STREET BOARD OF DIRECTORS BY MAJORITY VOTE, THAT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING ON APRIL 23, THE 2020, WE CERTIFIED THE EXPANSION OF THE TWO TOWN CENTER PARCELS AS PRESENTED AT THE DECEMBER 2019 MAIN STREET MEETING AND UPCOMING TODAY THE PZA MEETING AND ENDORSE AND SUPPORT IT AS A SIGNIFICANT VALUED ADDITION FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE VILANO BEACH TOWN CENTER.

SPECIFICALLY, THE 2.21 ACRES OF LAND IS TO BE REZONED FROM RESIDENTIAL GENERAL AND RESIDENTIAL GENERAL RG-1 AND RG-2 TO TOWN CENTER MIXED USE AND THE PROJECT NAME IS THE VILLAINO BEACH TOWN CENTER ADDITION TO CRUNEA AND TRGHT 2806 COASTAL HIGHWAY, AND THAT WAS SIGNED AND ENDORSED BY OUR COMPLETE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND VIVIAN BROWNING IS THE PRESIDENT OF VILLAINO BEACH MAIN STREET. SO I'LL LEAVE THIS FOR THE CLERK.

AND THE OTHER ITEM I KNOW VIVIAN WAS TRYING TO CALL IN. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S IN THE QUEUE NOW. BUT IF SHE IS NOT ABLE TO COMMUNICATE, I HAVE HER WRITTEN

TEXT THAT SHE WANTS TO CONVEY TO THE AUDIENCE. >> WE'LL READ THAT IF SHE'S NOT ON THE CALL. ALL RIGHT. I PROMISE.

THANK YOU. >> THAT'S THE ONLY SPEAKER CARD. THE OTHER IS NOT HERE,

MS. VIVIAN BROWNING ON THE TELEPHONE. >> ALL RIGHT.

SO IF YOU -- LET'S START THE CLOCK. IF YOU WANT TO READ VIVIAN'S MESSAGE AND THEN WE'LL JUST TAKE THAT IN LIEU OF HER CALL. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND READ THE

OUT LOUD IF YOU DON'T MIND. THAT WAY AT GETS IN THE RECORD. >> OKAY.

HERE WE GO. VIVIAN BROWNING 30 BEACHCOMBER WAY.

OVER 30-YEAR RESIDENT AND BUSINESS OWNER IN VILANO BEACH AND FOUNDING AND CURRENT PRESIDENT OF VILLAINO BEACH MAIN STREET WHICH IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY PROMOTES AND OVERSEES THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN VILLAINO BEACH.

I WOULD NORMALLY BE THERE WITH YOU BUT I AM CONTINUING MY STATE'S STAY AT HOME PLAN.

THE FOLLOWING ARE THE KEY REASONS I BELIEVE THE PZA SHOULD SUPPORT THE INCLUSION OF BOTH OF THESE PARCELS IN THIBLE. O DOWN CENTER BOUND PRIMARY ELECTION BOTH PROPERTIES ARE ADJACENT TO THE CURRENT TOWN CENTER BOUNDARY. COASTAL HIGHWAY IS ADJACENT TO TWO MOTELS AND A RESTAURANT IN THE TOWN CENTER AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM PUBLIX.

CARUNNA IS ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING HOTEL AND PARKING LOT WITHIN THE TOWN CENTER.

THE HEIGHT AND DENIES CAN I LIMITS WOULD BE THE SAME AS THE REMAINDER OF THE TOWN CENTER WHICH WERE USED TO DEVELOP PUBLIX AND OTHER CURRENT DEVELOPMENT.

HEIGHT DIFFERENCE FROM SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL LAND USE IS AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET OF LIVING SPACE TO ALLOW MINIMUM 1R CEILINGS AND TEN FEET OF NON-LIVING SPACE FOR ROOFLINES,

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OUR BCC APPOINTED LOCAL CITIZEN AND BUSINESS MEMBERS STUDENT REVIEW BOARD OVERSEES THE USE AND DESIGN OF THIS ADDITIONAL HEIGHT. IF IN AN INCREASE MUTT FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE IS BUILT ON THE COLT HIGHWAY PROPERTY, IT WOULD BE LESS DENSITY THAN THE CURRENT HOTEL SITES IN THE TOWN CENTER. BOTH PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED ON TOWN CENTER STREETS AND HAVE ACCESS TO OTHER IMPROVEMENTS PROVIDED BY OUR COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

IF APPROVED, THE ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL TAX BASE PROVIDED WOULD HELP PAY THE COUNTY BOND ISSUE THAT PROVIDED THE STREETS, SIDEWALKS AND UNDERGROUND IEWLTS FOR TOWN CENTER.

FOR THESE REASONS, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT OF ADDING THESE TWO PARCELS TO THE TOWN CENTER FOR

THE FUTURE SUSTAINABILITY OF VILLAINO BEACH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY. THAT EXHAUSTS THE PUBLIC SPEAKER'S IN THE HOUSE HERE.

ELECTRONICALLY CAN WE GET TO ANY OF THOSE PUBLIC SPEAKER'S, PLEASE.

>> HELLO. >> HELLO. >> PLEASE GO AHEAD.

>> OH. THERE'S SOME LADY SPEAKING RIGHT NOW.

>> WHAT'S THAT? >> THERE'S A WOMAN SPEAKING RIGHT NOW.

>> OKAY. THERE'S A BIT OF A DELAY. BUT YOU'RE ON LIVE HERE AND

YOU'RE A PUBLIC SPEAKER ON THIS VILANO PROJECT, SO -- >> THIS IS DAVE ADAMS. 26TH STREET. MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC FROM THE PUBLIC LOT THAT COMES ONTO CARUNNA STREET NOW, AND IT SHOULD BE ONE WAY. CARU CARUNNA STREET SHOULD BE ONE WAY. I'VE WRITTEN A LETTER TO MY NEIGHBORS ASKING HEM TO CONTACT YOU, AND I UNDERSTAND IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION BY YOUR COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE THAT THEY'VE GOT LIGHT OF INEFFECTIVE RESPONSE. THAT MIGHT BE PART OF IT.

NOW, THE LOT UP ON 2806 COASTAL HIGHWAY, THAT'S NOT NEAR ME. SOME PEOPLE HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT HEIGHT. I SEE THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED BY THE APPLICANT.

I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE A PIZZA HUT REBUILT IN SOME WAY AND INCORPORATED INTO SOMETHING USEFUL. BUT AS FAR AS CARUNNA STREET GOES, TODAY IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD ABOUT A 2,000 SQUARE FOOT COFFEE SHOP, AND ALL THE NEIGHBORS THAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT A MINIMUM CARUNNA STREET ONE WAY. IF ANY USE IS EXPANDED ON THAT END OF THE TOWN CENTER. THE ARGUMENT BY THE APPLICANT THAT THE LOT NUMBER 2 CARUNNA STREET SHOULD BE CONVERTED TO TOWN CENTER MIXED USE BECAUSE IT'S NEXT TO THE TOWN CENTER MIXED USE COULD LETTERS ALSO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY AS RESIDENTIAL AS IT HAS A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ON IT NOW, AND IT'S BEEN USED AS A A RESIDENCE EVER SINCE IT WAS BUILT. OR FOR RESIDENTIAL USETHAT'S AB. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YOU'RE ONI FEEL LOOK A TALK . IS THERE ANOTHER PUBLIC SPEAKER?

HELLO. >> I'M THERE. THIS IS VIVIAN BROWNING.

I BELIEVE MY COMMENTS HAVE BEEN READ BY SALLY O'HARA, BUT I JUST WANT YA'LL TO HEAR MY VOICE AND TELL YOU THAT I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS. IT IS NEEDED TO HELP SUPPORT OUR CRA AND OUR BOND ISSUE AND TO INCREASE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE TOWN CENTER. I SUPPORT THIS --

THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

>> NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT.

THAT WAS THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT. NOW I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO OUR MEMBERS FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE A FEW

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>> NO, I'M NOT. I'LL LET ARCHIE DO THAT. I WILL SAY THIS, THOUGH, THAT I DID MY EX PARTE OUT THERE. I COVER THAT WHOLE AREA OUT THERE.

AND I CAN SEE SOME ADVANTAGES O APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSITION, BOTH 5 AND 6.

BUT I'M NOT MAKING ANY MOTION. >> THANK YOU, BILL. I DIDN'T FOLLOW MY CHEAT SHEET HERE AND ALLOWED THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS FROM PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SO YOU GUYS WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TACKLE THAT. >> SURE.

WELL, I'LL START WITH THE CONCERN OF TRAFFIC ON CARUNNA STREET.

AS I MENTIONED, PART OF THE REASON WHY WE DID NOT HAVE AN ENTRANCE OR EXIT OFF CARUNNA WAS BECAUSE WE NOW KNEW OF SOME NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN THERE AND THAT'S WHY WE SHOWED THE EXIT COMING OFF AT THE ROUND ABOUT. IN TERMS OF THE QUESTION OF ONE WAY, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH AN INTERESTED PARTY IN THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THAT, AND EVEN SPOKE TO MY APPLICANT JUST TO GET THEIR OPINION. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT ROAD BECOMING ONE WAY. OF COURSE, THAT WOULD BE A DECISION FROM S. JOHNS COUNTY IN MAKING SURE THAT THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION MEETS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO FOR THE TOWN CENTER. IT'S A LITTLE OUT OF THE PURVIEW OF THIS DECISION TODAY.

BUT I DID WANT TO PASS IT ON OVER TO KAREN BECAUSE I KNOW SHE HAS SOME THINGS SHE'D LIKE TO

SAY ABOUT THE URBAN DESIGN AS WELL. >> KAREN TAYLOR, 77 SARAGOSSA STREET, AND I REALLY KIND OF WANTED TO ANSWER A LITTLE BIT OF SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. YOU'RE LOOKING AT OUR SITE PLAN, AND WE HAD TO LAY OUT SITE PLANS THAT REALLY SHOW THE MAXIMUM USE BECAUSE WHEN WE DO THE EVALUATION FOR THE COMP PLAN, THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS. SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A SITE PLAN THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE ABOUT THE MAX OF WHAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO GET ON THE SITE. AS YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE VERY RIGOROUS DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND YOU GO THROUGH QUITE A BIT, CERTAINLY IN THE LAST PROJECT I WORKED ON IN THERE, AND SO THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND STUFF LOOK THAT REALLY DICTATE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THAT. SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT JUST ADDING IT LOOK WE ARE TODAY, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE SPECIFICS OF THAT, NECESSARILY THAT SITE PLAN.

SOMEBODY MIGHT TURN THE BUILDING THIS WAY. THEY MIGHT ADD SOMETHING ONTO IT. I DO THINK, THOUGH, THAT THEY WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT FRONTAGE ALONG THE COASTAL HIGHWAY, WHICH I THINK IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS. AND I KNOW -- I EXPECTED SOME OF THE FOLKS TO CALL IN SINCE WE HAD SOME LETTERS AND EMAILS THAT CAME IN, AND THE TWO BIG CONCERNS, THE BIGGER CONCERNS THAT I SAW WERE HEIGHT, WHICH I THINK HAS BEEN ADDRESSED AS WELL.

AND ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE HEIGHT ALSO GOES THROUGH THAT DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AS NOTED.

AND ALSO DENSITY, AND I THINK SHANNON COVERED THAT REALLY WELL, BUT ONE THING THAT I DON'T THINK WE DID MENTION WAS THE FACT THAT BOTH SITES ARE CURRENTLY ZONED FOR MULTI-FAMILY. THEY'RE BOTH RG SITES OR WHATEVER.

THEY ARE LIMITED BY THE COMP PLAN, WHICH IS AS SHANNON NOTED, THOSE ARE COMING IN AT WHAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE RIGHT NOW. SO THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THE DENSITY BECAUSE OF THAT.

AND YOU CAN DO A PUD WITHIN RESIDENTIAL C, BUT AGAIN, THEN YOU'RE DOING A PUD AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE COORDINATION TO DOING IT.

SO WE FELT LIKE IT WAS A LOT BETTER TO COMBINE THAT. AND THAT'S PROBABLY AS MUCH FOR THE -- MORE FOR THE NORTHERN SITE, JUST TO KIND OF -- AND WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THIS, AND YOU ALL KNOW I WORKED ON IT FOR TEN YEARS WITH EVERYBODY, I MEAN, I KIND OF WISH WE HAD DONE THE WHOLE CORRIDOR ALONG THERE SO THAT IF THERE'S REDEVELOPMENT THAT COMES ALONG BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT ONE SIDE YOU'VE GOT THE PUBLIX AND YOU'VE GOT THE OTHER SIDE, IT HAS MULTI-FAMILY, A LOT OF THREE OF HAD STORY OR WHATEVER BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IN THE FUTURE IF THOSE WERE REDEVELOP INTO THE STANDARDS AS WELL SO WHEN YOU TURN THE CORNER RIGHT THERE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO ADD A COUPLE LITTLE THINGS.

>> THANK YOU>> SORRY FOR MY FAU. WE HEARD FROM BILL BACK TO THE AGENCY MEMBERS.

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DR. HILSENBECK, ANY COMMENTS? >> I WAS JUST WONDERING DURING THE STAFF PRESENTATION, AND PERHAPS I MISUNDERSTOOD THIS, BUT THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO IN OUR FOUR LETTERS OF OPPOSITION TO THIS. AND IN THE AGENDA ITEM PACKET I RECEIVED THERE WAS ONLY ONE LETTER OF OPPOSITION. SO I'VE HEARD FROM SHANNON AND CARON THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT -- KAREN THERE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT BUILDING HEIGHT BUT I JUST

WONDERED WHAT THE GIST OF THOSE OTHER LETTERS WERE>> OKAY. DO YOU GUYS WANT TO RESPOND TO

THAT? >> YES P THE LETTERS THAT WERE FORWARDED TO ME FROM STAFF, THEY

ALL HAD THE SAME CONCERN, DENSITY AND HEIGHT>> I'M JUST WD NOT SEE THOSE.

I WONDERED IF OTHER BOARD MEMBERS SAW ALL FOUR OF THEM BECAUSE I ONLY SAW WANT YOU

LETTER OF OPPOSITION. >> I THINK SOME OF THESE THET SENT LATE AND WE RECEIVE THEM WHEN WE WALK IN. SO I'VE GOT THEM HERE BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THEM AND READ THEM ALLOW BUT MAYBE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. I DON'T KNOW HOW THE PROCESS

WORKS. >> YOU ARE CORRECT. THEY'RE URIC E. USUALLY ON THE

DESK UP THERE>> THERE ALWAYS, OE COMPLAINTS WAS ALSO COMPLAINING ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU WERE

CONDUCTING PLANNING AND ZONING MEETINGS. >> YEAH, I SAW THAT.

THAT WAS WONDERFUL ONE. UNCONSCIONABLE. IT'S NOT OUR DECISION.

BUT THAT WAS NICE. OKAY. DR. HILSENBECK, ARE YOU

SATISFIED WITH YOUR QUESTION AND ANSWER? >> YES.

>> MR. WAINRIGHT? >> YES. FIRST I'D LIKE TO STATE EX PARTE AND THEN I'VE THE GUY COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I TALKED WITH VIVIAN BROWNING BY TELEPHONE YESTERDAY. MY CURRENT CONCERNS, OVERALL THIS LOOKS GOOD TO ME, REALLY GOOD. TIES THAT AREA TOGETHER. MY CONCERNS ARE THE HEIGHT AND THE EFFECT ON PEOPLE WHO LIVE ADJACENT TO THIS, PARTICULARLY TO THE NORTH.

THE THIRD CONCERN IS EVEN MORE GENERAL. AS I DRIVE ALONG A1A, PARTICULARLY ON ANASTASIA ISLAND, BIG BUILDINGS CUT OFF ALL VIEWS OF THE WATER.

YOU CANNOT SEE WHAT PEOPLE COME TO FLORIDA TO SEE, THE OCEAN, UNLESS YOU GO DOWN THESE LITTLE NARROW TRACTS. I'M WONDERING ABOUT BEACH ACCESS HERE.

SO THAT'S MY THREE CONCERNS. THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION, PARTICULARLY FOR PEOPLE AFFECTED TO THE NORTHERN, ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY. THEY'RE THERE NOW.

RESIDENTIAL AREAS ARE ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THIS SITE. ACCESS TO THE BEACH THROUGH HERE, I REALIZE YOU CAN GET THERE IF YOU GO DOWN BY THE SAFE WAY AND ANGLE BACK THROUGH THERE. BUT THERE'S LESS ACCESS THERE THAN WITH THIS.

AND THE HEIGHT AS IT AFFECTS PEOPLE WHO LIVE ALONG THE NORTH SIDE.

HELP ME OUT HERE. >> I'LL GIVE IT THE TRY AND THEN I'LL LET SHANNON BASICALLY.

AS FOR BEACH ACCESS, BY BRINGING THIS IN, IF IT BECOMES A COMMERCIAL SITE, OBVIOUSLY, IT HAS MUCH BETTER BEACH ACCESS FOR LOTS OF PEOPLE. IF IT WAS USED AS A HOTEL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY SPECIFIC BEACH ACCESS, BUT EVERY PLAN -- AND I'VE WORKED WITH MR, 20 YEARS ON THIS SITE. I KNOW THERE PROBABLY WOULD BE BEACH ACCESS AVAILABLE, SO IF THERE'S A HOTEL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES. OTHER THAN THAT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE PROJECT IS AND -- YES, THANKS, SHANNON, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT. THE WAY THAT THE SITE IS FROM

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SO FROM A VIEWPOINT OF THAT, IT'S BASICALLY YOU'RE NOT GETTING THAT VIEW ALONG.

AND I THINK SHANNON'S GOT THAT UP TO KIND OF POINT OUT THAT SHE ALREADY MENTIONED ALL OF THE THREE-STORY HOMES AND CONDOS THAT ARE AROUND IT. AND I BELIEVE VIVIAN ALSO MENTIONED IT. SO THE DIFFERENCE REALLY IS THE FIVE FEET, THE 40 FEET.

IT DOES ALLOW FOR THINGS. THE IF YOU WANTED A FLAT ROOF, FOR INSTANCE, YOU CAN HAVE A PARAPET WALL THAT GOES ABOVE THAT. IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A SHED ROOF, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OF HEIGHT TO GET SOME DESIGN ASPECTS TO IT. SO BASICALLY IT'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT, EVEN IF YOU WERE BUILDING IT UNDER THE CLASSIFICATION THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH JUST THE 35 FEET. ONE THING TO NOTE ON THAT SITE IS THAT ALL ALONG THERE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP -- THEY HAVE TO KEEP WITH THAT COASTAL CONSTRUCTION KIND OF WHERE THAT LINE IS, WHERE DEVELOPMENT HAS HAPPENED, UP UNTIL NOW, SO YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH HOUSE TO THE LADY HE'S HOUSE THAT'S TO THE NORTH, SO IT REALLY CAN'T GO ANY FARTHER FORWARD THAN THAT. SO IT'S NOT KIND OF ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN YOU WOULD HAVE UNDER THE, IN THE RG DEVELOPMENT AND THE REDS REZ C DEVELOPD HAVE.

THOSE ARE THE THREE THINGS. IF SHANNON WANTS TO ADD. >> LET ME CLARIFY.

I SHOULD HAVE SPOKEN MORE CLEARLY. THE BEACH VIEW FROM A1A, I EXCLUDE THAT. THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE HERE. JUST A MATTER OF AS YOU GET BACK IN THERE WITH THIS LONG EXPANSE ALONG THE WATER THERE AND, OF COURSE, MY CONCERN IS ABOUT THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION AS IT AFFECTS PEOPLE JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE HERE.

>> YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE. I TOOK THIS PICTURE FROM THE ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH HOUSE.

YOU CAN GET A LITTLE GENERALLY IDEA. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW SO IT'S PRETTY UNCLEARED, A LOT OF FOLIAGE, AND THEN YOU CAN KIND OF GET A SENSE, AGAIN A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. THERE ARE A LOT OF THREE-STORY BUILDINGS WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 35 FEET. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE NORTH.

I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER THING -- KAREN COIFORTD REALLY WELL -- THAT I WOULD POINT OUT IS THERE ARE STILL LAND USE BUFFERS THAT WOULD BE PUT INTO PLACE. THAT'S PART OF THE REGULAR ST. JOHNS COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO MORE THAN LIKELY, DEPENDING ON THE TYPES OF USES THAT GO ONTO THIS PIECE, THERE WILL BE 10 TO 20-FOOT, MORE THAN LIKELY 20-FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN THESE TWO USES. AND THAT WOULD DEPEND ON THE SPECIFIC USE THAT GOES IN AND THE PROVISIONS OF LDC 60604 WHICH MARRIES DIFFERENT USES TOGETHER TO DETERMINE THE ITH WITH IN SCREENING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. MY TURN.

I LIKE TO SEE THE VILANO BEACH FOLKS HAVE BEEN PRETTY DILIGENT IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT OF THE TOWN CENTER THERE AND THEIR ENFORCEMENT OF THAT, AND AGAIN I'VE SEEN VIVIAN A NUMBER OF TIMES UP HERE. AND WHEN YOU PUT THAT ZONING INTO THE LOCAL AREA AND THEY LIKE IT AND THEY WANT IT AND THEY APPROVE IT, THEN I THINK IT'S AN EASIER SELL FOR ME PERSONALLY. I THINK IT'S GENERALLY A GOOD IDEA.

IT'S RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THE STRUCTURE ITSELF, ARCHIE, IN TERMS OF THREE STORIES, I SEE A LOT OF THREE-STORIES TO THE NORTH, BUT THE BUILDING PLACEMENT IS GOING TO BE ALONG THAT EASTERN EDGE WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE THREE-STORY BEACH HOUSE HOTEL AND YOU'VE GOT THE OTHER THREE-STORY CONDOS AND ALL THAT I THINK IS GOING TO PRETTY MUCH JIBE. SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.

ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS. UP NEXT, MS. PERKINS.

>> NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. MR. MATOVINA.

>> NO COMMENTS. >> AND NO QUESTIONS? >> NO QUESTIONS, EITHER.

>> ALL RIGHT. GREAT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'VE EXHAUSTED PUBLIC COMMENT. WE'VE EXHAUSTED THE TWO

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>> I'D OFFER A MOTION UNLESS THE SOMEONE ELSE WISHES TO. >> ARCHIE, YOU'RE RIGHT HERE SO

YOU GET TO MAKE THE FIRST. GO AHEAD. >> .

WE'RE GOING TO DO ITEM NUMBER 5 FIRST AND ITEM NUMBER 6. THIS IS A COMPANION PIECE.

>> I'D OFFER A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF CPA CC 2019-08 VILANO BEACH TOWN CENTER ADDITION AT 2 CRUNEA STREET/2806 COASTAL HIGHWAY, BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> THANK YOU, MS. PERKINS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SPEAK UP.

SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE. GO THROUGH THE LIST YEAR HERE. THE DR. MCCORMICK.

>> AYE. >> DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES.

>> MR. WAINRIGHT. >> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER SAYS YES.

MS. PERKINS. >> YES. >> AND MR. MATOVINA.

>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS.

THAT WAS ITEM NUMBER 5. ARCHIE, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TACKLE NUMBER 6 SINCE YOU'RE

RIGHT THERE. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE WISHES TO.

>> GO FOR IT, ARCHIE. >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZ 2020-04 VILANO BEACH TOWN CENTER ADDITION 2, CORRUNA STREET/2806 COASTAL HIGH REZONING, A REQUEST TO ROW ZONE APPROXIMATELY 2.21 ACRES OF LAND FROM RESIDENTIAL GENERAL RG-1 AND RESIDENTIAL GENERAL RFPG-2 TO TOWN CENTER MIXED USE, TCMU, BASED UPON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> I'LL SECOND IT. >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE SPEAK UP.

SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. DR. MCCORMICK. >> AYE.

>> DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES. >> MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER IS YES. MS. PERKINS.

>> YES. >> AND MR. MATOVINA. >> YES.

>> MOTION ALSO CARRIES UNANIMOUS 6-0. ALL RIGHT.

THE THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 7. MS. MAY AGAIN.

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN. THANK YOU, AGENCY MEMBERS. SAMANTHA MAY WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT. ITEM NUMBER 7 IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR FAVOR DYKES HOME FAVER DYKES HOME SITES. THIS IS THE ADOPTION HEARING TO REQUEST THE AMENDMENT TO THE FUTURE LAND MAP CLASSIFICATION OF APPROXIMATELY 16.48 AREAS, OF LAND FROM RURAL SILVICULTURE TO RESIDENTIAL A, IT INCLUDES A TEXTED AMENDMENT LIMITING IT TO FIVE RESIDENTIAL DWEBLG UNITS.

THE SITE IS LOCATED ON FAVER DYKES ROAD. IT'S JUST EAST OF INTERSTATE 95 AND RELATIVELY AT THE POINT NEAR COUNTY ROAD 204. THE FUTURE LAND USE AGAIN IS RURAL SILVICULTURE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WOULD CHANGE IT BACK TO RESIDENTIAL A.

IT'S ADJACENT OR ZONED OPEN RURAL. IT'S ADJACENT TO OPEN RURAL ON THREE SIDES ESSENTIALLY, AND THERE'S A PRD TO THE WEST. THE AERIAL MAP SHOWS THAT IT'S A FAIRLY UNDEVELOPED AREA OF THE COUNTY. THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

THERE ARE I BELIEVE TWO EXISTING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES ON THE SITE.

THE REQUEST WOULD ALLOW THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE TWO EASTERN PAR SETTLES, AND IT WOULD DISSOLVE THE FAMILY FARM FOR THE THREE SOUTHERN PARCELS. ERR RURAL SILVICULTURE LIMITS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO UNDWELLING UNIT PER 100 ACRES UNLESS ICE A EXEMPT PARCEL OR DEVELOPED BY FAMILY FARM PROIFGHTSDZ OR A PLANNED RULE OF DEVELOPMENT.

RESIDENTIAL A ALLOWS ONE DWELLING UNIT PER NET ACRE TO INCREASE THE DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS, AND THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH OPEN RURAL ZONING.

THE TEXT AMENDMENT THAT IS PROVIDED WOULD ALLOW UP TO FIVE DWELLING UNITS, AND THAT LIMITATION WOULD MATCH EXISTING NUMBER OF -- OR THE NUMBER OF EXISTING PROPERTY DIVISIONS.

THIS IS A MAP SHOWING HOW THE OWNERSHIP IS DIVIDED. THERE'S THE THREE LOTS ON THE

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OR ZONING WOULD BE MAINTAINED AND IT WOULD ALLOW LIMITED RESIDENTIAL AND AGRICULTURE USESQUIST LAND USE. WHILE RESIDENTIAL A WOULD AAL HOW THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IT SHARES SIMILAR ALLOWABLE USES AND WOULD LIMIT THE TYPE OF PERMITTED USES AS COMPARED TO RURAL SILVICULTURE. THE MAXIMUM DENSITY FIVE UNITS WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS A SMALL PROJECT FOR CONCURRENCY REVIEW AND THE DEVELOPMENT THREE HOMES WOULD GENERATE APPROXIMATELY 28 DALE TRIPS AND THREE NEW EXTERNAL P.M. PEAK HOUR TRIPS EXPECT AND THERE'S CURRENTLY ADEQUATE CAPACITY ON THE DIRECT ROADWAY ACCESS AND LINK 116. THIS IS US-125, I-95 TO 206 IS CURRENTLY AT JUST UNDER 52% OF CAPACITY. BASED ON TOTAL COMMITTED TRAFFIC. THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE THREE ADDITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS ESTIMATED TO GENERATE LESS THAN ONE STUDENT. THIS WOULD BE WITHIN THE PEDRO MENENDEZ CONCURRENCY AREA. AND FUTURE DECH MAY REQUIRE MITIGATION TO ADDRESS SCHOOL CAPACITY. THE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY DETERMINATION WOULD BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO CLEARANCE, AND IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE APPROVED PRIOR TO A NEW RESIDENTIAL UNITS COMING ONLINE. THE APPLICANT WOULD DEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITH PRIVATE WATER WELL AND SEPTIC SYSTEM. AND THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SERVICE TERRITORY AND MAY HAVE THE OPTION TO REQUEST SERVICE AVAILABILITY FOR PUBLIC UTILITIES IN THE FUTURE. THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL "A" FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION WOULD ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE THREE ADDITIONAL HOME SITES ON MAR PARCELS THAT MANY RANGE FROM 3.1 TO 4 WANT 16 ACRES IN SIZE. THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT EXISTS APPARENTLY ALONG FAVER DYKES ROAD AND IS COMPRISED OF LOTS THAT RANGE FROM 1 ACRE TO ABOUT 11 ACRES. THE I HYDE PARK PUD ADJOINS THE WERND BOUNDARY IS PLANNED FOR 27 HOME OF 170 ACRES IN TOTAL WITH THAT BEING LIMITED TO 15 ACRES AND REMAINING AS 163 ACRES OF RESERVE AREA. THE CREATION OF THE RESIDENTIAL "A" DEVELOPMENT AREA IN THIS LOCATION APPEARS TO BE COMPATIBLE BASED ON THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE TECHNICAL GRITION DIVISS STATED THAT ACCESS TO THESE LOTS WOULD BE PROVIDED BY A 60-FOOT STABILIZED EASEMENT ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE THREE PARCELS AND ACCESS TO THE PARCELS THAT ARE TO THE NORTHEAST AFTER RECONFIGURATION MAY BE PROVIDED BY A SHARED DRIVEWAY WHICH WOULD BE DESIGNED TO AVOID THE IMPACTS TO ISOLATED WETLANDS LOCATED AT THE FRONT OF THE PARCELS.

AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE AGENCY ASKED FOR DURING THE FIRST HEARING FOR THIS PARTICULAR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND WAS CARRIED OUT BY THE BOARD OF COMMISSION.

HERE IS A PROPOSED SITE PLAN. THE PCHT ZA HEARD THE ADVERTISEMENT IN JANUARY OF 2020 VOTING 6-0 TO RECOMMEND TRANSMITTAL. THIS AGENCY IS DISCUSSED REDUCED ACCESS TO WETLANDS AB PRESCRIBED BURN AT THE ADJACENT PARK, THE DISTANCE TO FIRE SERVICES AND THE REVISED. TEXTED AMENDMENT TO PROHIBIT IMPACT TO BASIN SWAWP EXCEPT TO ALLOW FOR ACCESS AND MAINTENANCE AND THAT TEXT AMENDMENT WAS I COULDN'T BE DATED PRIOR TO BROAFERRED COUNTY COMMISSIONER HEARING. THE BOARD HEARD THE ITEM MARCH 3RD AND VOTED 5-0 TO TRANSMIT. STATE AND REEDGESZ RESPONDED AND HAD NO COMMENTS OR ACTIONS TO BE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO ADOPTION. THERE HAVE BEEN TWO PHONE CALL INQUIRIES RECEIVED FROM RESIDENTS REQUESTING INFORMATION BUT THEY STATED NO OBJECTION.

AND STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE REGARDING THE REQUESTED AMENDMENT.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY VOTED 6-0 TO RECOMMEND TRANSMITTAL.

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD.

>> ONE MORE TIME. >> ONE MORE TIME. >> I PROMISE THIS IS IT.

I DON'T THINK I'LL GO THROUGH MY WHOLE PRESENTATION JUST BECAUSE OF TIME, AND I KNOW YOU'VE GOT TOM SOME ITEMS BEHIND US HERE TO WORK ON, AND YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THIS, AND AS CYNTHIA SAID, IT HAS COME BEFORE YOU AGAIN BECAUSE IT WAS -- BECAUSE IT'S OVER 10 ACRES.

IT'S A LARGE SCALE AMENDMENT. SO IT GETS TWO SETS OF HEARINGS. SO THE FIRST IS THE TRANSMITTAL SET OF HEARINGS, WHICH IS WHEN WE CAME BEFORE AND YOU HAD SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS HERE AND DIFFERENT QUESTIONS AND SOME OF THE. ZA MEMBERS HAD QUESTIONS.

WE WENT ON TO THE COMMISSION. WE ACTUALLY RESOLVED SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

WE RESOLVE THOSE THINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. AND ONE THING HAD TO DO WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE. THEY SAID THIS IS A VERY LARGE SITE, BUT AS THE LAST, DONE OF THE LAST SLIDES THAT CYNTHIA SHOWED WITH THE AREA, THERE'S A BASIN SWAMP AREA THAT WAS A CONCERN TO THE NEIGHBORS, SO THERE IS A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS APPROVAL OF THIS, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS IN --S WAIT IN YOUR PRESENTATION? -- WAS IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION? IT'S AT THE END OF MINE.

>> IT'S AT THE END OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AS WELL. >> SO ANYWAY, THERE IS THE BASIN SWAMP AREA THAT IS IN HERE. SO THE TEXT AMENDMENT ADDRESSES THAT AND LIMITS -- THERE IT IS.

SO IT LIMIT IT TO THE FIVE UNITS. AS I JUST SAID, THAT'S THE DAVIS FAMILY THAT HAS THOSE ON THE ONE SIDE THAT ALREADY HAD THE THREE RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT WERE ALLOWED THROUGH THE FAMILY FARM, BUT WHAT THAT DOES IS ALLOW THEM TO BE ABLE TO SELL THAT OUT OF& THE FAMILY AT ANY POINT IN TIME. AND THE OTHER IS THE OTHER SIDE, THE OTHER PIECE IS TO DIVIDE THAT INTO TWO, AND IT WAS TO RECONFIGURE THAT, AND IT WAS NOT LEGALLY DIVIDED INTO TWO.

SO WE LIMIT IT TO THE FIVE, AND THEN WE ALSO PROHIBITED IMPACTS OTHER THAN FOR MAINTENANCE OR ACCESS BECAUSE THERE IS KIND OF AN ACCESS ROAD THAT GOES THROUGH THAT SECTION ON THAT EAST PARCEL, AND SO THAT WILL GO ALONG WITH THIS. SO THE REQUEST HERE WOULD BE TO, AGAIN TO ADOPT THIS. I'M HAPPY TO COVER ANYTHING ELSE BUT I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR IT.

>> IT WAS IN JANUARY SO IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO. I REMEMBER THIS PRETTY VIVIDLY.

>> IT WAS -- THIS WANT YOU CAME AROUND REALLY QUICK. >> IT DID.

OKAY. LET'S TRY PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE NO CARDS HERE.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE TELEPHONE LINE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> NO. >> LET'S CONFIRM IT. >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> GREAT. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO THROUGH THE LIST TO ASK

KAREN SOME QUESTIONS OR JUST GIVE HER A HARD TIME IN GENERAL. >> WELL, I'LL DO THAT.

>> THERE YOU GO. DR. MCCORMICK, GO AHEAD. >> SO ANYWAY, I'VE GOT TO BE A CONTRARIAN A LITTLE BIT HERE. FIRST OF ALL, THE EX PAR TO A, I VISITED THIS SITE BACK BEFORE WE LOOKED AT THIS THE FIRST TIME AND I HAD A COUPLE OF ISSUES. ONE WAS THE RATING ON THE FIRE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO FIRE STATION WITHIN EIGHT MILES PLUS NO CREDIBLE USE OF SUPPLY, SO THE RANGERS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT CONTROLLED FIRES FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE OTHER PROBLEM IT WAS THAT THE FLOODING, CONCERN BY THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT LANDFILL AND THE FLOODING THAT THEY WERE ALREADY EXPERIENCING. NOW, THOSE THINGS BEING SAID, I VOTED IN FAVOR OF THIS THE FIRST TIME AROUND, AND I'M GOING TO DO THAT THIS TIME AROUND TOO.

THAT'S IT. >> ALL RIGHT. MORE OF A COMMENT THAN A

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QUESTION. RIGHT IN. >> YES.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY, WE DID DISCUSS THIS AGAIN WITH THOSE RESIDENTS AFTER WE LEFT THE PZA MEETING, AND THAT BASIN SWAMP AREA IS AN AREA THAT HAD BEEN DUG OUT A LONG TIME AGO, PROBABLY BORROW FOR BUILDING THE ROADWAY, AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS STOW WE COULDN'T FILL IT IN, AND THAT'S WHY WE INCLUDED THAT WITHIN IT. AND ONE THING THAT'S THAT KIND OF KEEPS COMING UP UP THAT IT'S FIVE UNITS, BASICALLY RIGHT NOW IT'S ALLOWED TO HAVE FOUR.

SO WE'RE REALLY ONLY ADDING ONE UNIT. AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE FAVER DYKES PARK AS WELL, SO EVEN ON THE SCOL CONCURRENCY IT -- SCHOOL CONCURRENCY IT STILL ALREADY HAS FOUR ALLOWABLE UNITS. LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET A LITTLE FARTHER BACK. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE PARK RECREATION STUFF STARTS, AND IN HERE THAT IS FAVRE DYKE. AND THERE'S ALSO A VERY BIG POWERLINE BACK HERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THE COUNTY HAS A CONSERVATION EASEMENT ALONG THERE.

SO THEY'RE NO IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO ANY OF THE BURN AREAS FOR THAT AND AS FOR FIRE TYPE THING THAT'S RIGHT SAME SITUATION EVERYBODY IS. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT FIVE LOTS

ON 16, ALMOST 17 ACRES. >> VERY GOOD. >> ALL RIGHT.

DR. HILSENBECK. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BUT I HAVE A COMMENT THAT THE PORTION OF THE GTV WAS OUT FOR ABOUT TEN MINUTES, SO WE DIDN'T SEE MOST OF KAREN'S PRESENTATION. I A SOUP THE ASSUME THE MD MEMBERS SPENDER THE SAME THING.

IT'S FROZEN -- EXPERIENCED THE SAME THING. >> THERE'S ALSO THE COUNTY

WEBSITE TO ACCESS. >> I HAD THAT UP EARLIER BUT I DELETED THAT BECAUSE THE TV WAS

WORKING AGAIN BUT NOW IT'S FROZEN. >> MR. WAINRIGHT, QUESTION,

COMMENT? >> NO QUESTIONS, NO COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU.

MR. E. KOPPENHAFER HAS NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. MS. PERKINS?

>> NONE. >> ALL RIGHT. AND MR. MATOVINA.

>> NO, SIR. >> THANK YOU, KAREN. WE ARE BACK IN THE AGENCY, THEN, LOOKING FOR LAST-MINUTE COMMENTS OR A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ADOPTION OF COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENT 2019-06 FAVER DYKES HOME SITES BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A SECOND FROM ARE IN WAINRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND

VOTEGOING THROUGH THIS LIST HERE DR. MCCORMICK. >> AYE.

>> DR. HILSENBECK. >> YES. >> MR. WAINRIGHT.

>> YES. >> MR. KOPPENHAFER IS YES. MS. PERKINS.

>> YES. >> AND MR. MATOVINA. >> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 6-0. WE'RE ALMOST PERFECT HERE.

THANK YOU. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, ITEM NUMBER 8.

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WOOHOO. >> THANK YOU. CYNTHIA MAY WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT. THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR TRAIL MARK ADDED LANDS AND IS THIS IS A TRANSMITTAL HEARING. THIS IS TO CHANGE 71 ACRES ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM RURAL SILVICULTURE TO RESIDENTIAL C WITH A TEXTED AMENDMENT FOR A SITE-SPECIFIC POLICY WHICH SUBJECTS THE PROPERTY TO THE CONDITIONS DEFINED WITHIN THE ST. JOHNS D RICHT, WHICH I WILL EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

THIS IS LOCATED ALONG INDIAN RANCH ROAD AND CHURCH ROAD WHICH IS WEST OF PACETTI ROAD AND IS TO BE ACCESSED THROUGH THE SIX MILE CREEK SOUTH. THE ROARED HEARING WILL BE JUNE 2ND, AND NOT JUNE 6TH AS NOTED ON YOUR STAFF REPORT. HERE'S AN AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED ADDITIONAL LANDS, INDIAN BRANCH RANCH ROAD IS TO THE EAST, CHURCH ROAD KIND OF EXTEND OFF OF THAT. THE SIX MILE DEVELOPMENT IS TO THE NORTH, AND THE SITE WOULD BE TAKESSED ACCESSED THROUGH THAT.

THE REQUEST IS TO MAKE THAT AMENDMENT FROM RURAL SILVICULTURE TO RESIDENTIAL C.

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AND IT IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR. THIS SHOWS THE FUTURE LAND USE.

IT SHOWS THE ST. JOHNS DRI KIND OF WRAPPING AROUND THE WEST AND TO THE NORTH, AND THE RURAL SILVICULTURE DESIGNATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS WELL AS TO THE SOUTH AND EAST.

THE FUTURE LAND USE WOULD APPEND THAT, NOT NECESSARILY TO BECOME PART OF THE ST. JOHN DRI BUT TO HAVE A SIMILAR LAND USE AS THAT PART OF THE ST. JOHNS DRI AND TO HAVE THE ST. JOHN DRI ENTITLEMENTS SORT OF BE BROUGHT OVER INTO THE SUBJECT PARCELS SO THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY NEW ENTITLEMENTS WITH THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. THE ZONING IS CURRENTLY OPEN RURAL. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO UTILIZE APPROVED ENTITLEMENTS IN THE DRI AS THEY EXPLAINED, THEREFORE THE PPED FROM LAND USE CHANGE DOES NOT INCREASE IMPACTS TO PUBLIC UTILITIES AND SERVICES AND DOES NOT ALTER THE LOCATION OR THE TIMING OF THE IMPACTS ABOVE THAT WHICH IS CURRENTLY APPROVED. THERE'S WATER AND HURE SUE AVAILABILITY LETTER IN THE SYSTEM STATING THAT THERE'S SUFFICIENT CAPACITY IN THE EXISTING SYSTEM P THE ST. JOHNS DRI HAS REQUIREMENTS FOR RECREATION SERVICES AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN FIVE MILES OF THE PRIMARY FIRE STATION AND A CREDIBLE WATER SUPPLY. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OFFERS POLICIES FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS THAT SHOULD BE MET. THE FIRST IS A125 WHICH THE APPLICANT SHALL JUSTIFY THE NEED FOR THE AMENDMENT AND DEMONSTRATE HOW THE AMENDMENT DISCUSSION SPRAWL ASK DOES NOT ADD SCRERSLY IMPACT THE RESOURCES OF THE COUNTY OR THE STATE.

ADVERSELY IMPACT THE RESOURCES. THE NEXT POLICY A127 THE COUNTY SHALL ENCOURAGE GROWTH WITHIN THE DEFINED DEVELOPMENT AREAS ALREADY HAVING PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SERVICES.

AND TYPICALLY AREAS DESIGNATED RURAL SILVICULTURE ARE OUTSIDE THOSE DEFINED DEVELOPMENT AREAS AND THEREFORE THE APPLICANT MUST DEMONSTRATE PUBLIC BENEFIT OR BENEFITS.

THE PROPERTY IS IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR IN AN AREA THAT'S TRANSITIONING FROM RURAL TO SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THE PROPERTY SURROUNDED BY RURAL CIVIL FUTURE LAND USE AND OPEN TRIEWRLT SOUTH AND RURAL TO THE SOUTH AND EAST.

AS STATED EARLIER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DISCOURAGES EX PACKS UNLESS OR EXPANSION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AREA UNLESS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JOB CRN OF NATURAL ENVIRONMENT OR OTHER PUBLIC BENEFITS ARE SHOWN. THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THE PROPOSED PROJECT PROVIDE THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC BENEFIT. ONE IS FRED SPREAD THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AS OPPOSED TO CREATING NEW ONES. ENTITLEMENTS ARE DETBOOND A DEFINED MITIGATION PLAN OUTLINED IN THE APPROVED WHY I PACT. MAIN TAIBS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING NATURE OF THE ST. JOHNS DRI. IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER CONS CONDITIONS AND PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT AND HAVE BEEN MITIGATED BY THE PROCEED VISION OF PARK SPACE, SCHOOL LAND, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND UTILITY EXTENSIONS AS PART OF THE ST. JOHNS DRI. HERE IS A COMPATIBILITY MAP SHOWING THE ADD JAY SEASONS TO THE DRI. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PROVIDES THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ARE LEGISLATIVE IN NATURE. THEY'RE A MOISTLES MAKING DECISION TO DETERMINE THE FUTURE GROWTH PEARCHT ONTARIO. A DETERMINATION -- GROWTH PATTERN OF THE COUNTY.

A DETERMINATION OF CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND STATE LAW AND APPROVAL OR DEFINITELY AMENDMENT MUST NOT BE ARBITRATOR AND CAPRICIOUS EXPWSHES THE TYPES OF INFORMATION EVIDENCE AND DOCUMENTATION THAT MAY BE CONSIDERED IS BROADER THAN THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN REGARD FOR A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING.

AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS TO HAVE A PROCESS GET TRANS MTD IF THEY'RE OVER TEN ACRES IN SPIEPS A RECOMMENDATION TO TRANSMIT IS REQUIRED FROM THE AGENCY TO THE BOARD WHO WILL TAKE THE FINAL ACTION. TRANSMISSION MEANS THE AMENDMENT WILL BE SENT TO STATE, REGIONAL AND ADJACENT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FOR A 30-DAY REVIEW AND COMMENT PERIOD, AND ONCE THE REVIEW AND COMMENTS ARE CONCLUDED THE ADOPTION HEARINGS WOULD BE SCHEDULED.

NORTHWEST SECTOR COMMUNITY MEETING WAS HELD ON APRIL 8 OF THIS YEAR AT THE TRAIL MARK CLUBHOUSE. THE MEETING WAS CONDUCTED BOTH IN PERSON AND REMOTELY AND IT

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THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THE APPLICANT IS HERE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE LIKE THIS APPLICANT FROM YEARS AGO. DOES IT FEEL GOOD TO BE BACK?

Y. >> , IT DOES. I HAVE MISSED YOU ALL, ESPECIALLY SEEING IN YOU PERSON. THANK YOU, CYNTHIA, FOR THAT PLETION.

MY NAME IS LINDS'. I'M A SENIOR PLANNER WITH ENGLAND, THAMES AND MILLER AND ON TO GIVE AP I HAVE THE WITH ME THE OWNER APPLICANT WITH GREEN POINT, GREG KERN AND LIA O'REILLY OUR SAND LIUS. STACEY LEWIS BE WITH PATRICK PIERCE AND BRENT HANDLEY MAY BE ONLINE WITH ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES TO HANDLE THAT COMPONENT AND OUR OTHER TEAM MEMBER FROM ENGLAND, THAMES AND MILLER TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS. WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO QUICKLY RECAP THE PRESENTATION BY CYNTHIA AND MENTION THAT YOU DO HAVE AT YOUR PLACES A HANDOUT. THIS WAS THE TRANSPORTATION MEMO THAT WAS REFERENCED IN THE APPLICATION MATERIALS AS PART OF THE BUNDLE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AS WELL AS THE REVISED LEGAL DESCRIPTION THAT FOCUSED ON THIS ADDED LANDS ARE AREA. AND TRAIL MARK IS THE MAJORITY OWNER OF THE LANDS AND SIX-MILE CREEK OWTH OR SIX MILE CREEK IN TEAR AREA THAT'S KNOWN AS SIX MILE CREEK SOUTH ANDTH PROJECT NAME IS TRAIL MARC. THAT REALLY GOT UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN 2008.

KIND OF GETTING OUT OF OF THE RECESSION AREA AND SO IN YOUR SITE VISIT YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OCCURRED TO DATE IN AREAS OF SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT LOCATED OFF THE PACETTI ROAD. HERE I'M BOUNDING FOR THAT THAT LAST LITTLE BIT OF CORNER OF THE

NORTHWEST SECTOR. >> THEN GIVING YOU HIGHLIGHTING IN THAT ADDED LANDS THAT'S JUST POPPED UP IN ORANGE AND IT'S TUCKED INTO THAT CORNER IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO WHAT IS THE DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDER WE STARTED THIS JOURNEY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO AND HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF YOU CAN SEE THE LAND USE COLOR ON THE S. JOHNS RDRI IS THAT LIGHT BLUE COLOR.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS A LAND USE CATEGORY SPECIFIC TO DRI. ONE OPTION WE WANTED TO DO TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT AND AVOID CONFUSION IN THAT WE ARE NOT INCREASING ANY DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS WAS TO COLOR IT BLUE ON THE LAND USE MAP BUT THAT OPTION HAS BEEN RETIRED AND SO YOU SEE RESIDENTIAL C AS THE LAND USE COLOR. NESS BUCKLED IN WITH A LAND MUSE AMEND MENTD THAT TIES IT BACK TO THE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT ORDER WHERE WE'RE SHARING OUR EXISTING LAND ENTITLEMENT RIGHTS THAT HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED AND ENTITLED TO THE PROPERTY SO THERE'S NO INCREASE SO A CHANGE TO RESIDENTIAL C ELIMINATES THE OPPORTUNITY TO REZONE THROUGH PLANNED RURAL DEVELOPMENT WHICH AT ITS MAXIMUM COULD YIELD 14 DWELLING UNITS ADDING THE NUMBER OF UNITS. IS WE HAVE WORKED WITH PLANNING STAFF ASK AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO TONIGHT UP THAT TEXTED AMENDMENT SO THERE ARE TWO THARTS PARTS THAT ARE ADDRESSED. THEY COME OVER FROM THE ST. JOHNS DRI AND THAT DENSITY WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CATEGORY. THE NARRATIVE.

APPLICATION MATERIALS THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED IN YOUR PLANNING BOOKS WALKS THROUGH IN HIGH DETAIL THE JUSTIFICATION AND CONSISTENCY ANALYSIS BUT HERE I JUST WANTED TO POP UP A COUPLE OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE GOALS THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THAT REALLY WHEN YOU ARE ADDING IN INTENSITY COME TO THE FOREFRONT. AGAIN WE'RE SHARING OVERRIGHTS SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IF ANALYSIS. WE'RE LOCATED IN THIS AREAS OF NORTHWEST SECTOR.

WE ARE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO TRAIL MARK AS YOU COME IN THROUGH THE PROPERTIES.

WE'RE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE AREAS THAT YOU SEE ONE TWO TWO MILES AT STATE ROAD 16 AND

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THIS IS THE STANDARD DEVELOPMENT FOR REGIONAL IMPACT AND IT SHOWS FOR YOU THE EXISTING BOUNDARY OF THIS PORTION THE SIX MILE CREEK PORTION OF THE ST. JOHN DRI. THE NUMBERS ON THE MAP RELATE TO ITS USES AND INTENSITY AND ALSO THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER HAS A MITIGATION CONDITIONS.

THIS MAP NOW ADDS IN THE 71 ACRES AND SHOWS HOW IT'S BEING ANNEXED INTO THE DRI AND THAT WILL BE THE FINAL POINT TO BUCKLE INTO THAT SHARE OF RIGHTS OVER FROM THE DRI AND THEN SHOWING HOW WE HAVE INTERNAL VEHICULAR CONNECTION TO THE PROJECT AS WE COME IN THROUGH THE SITE. SO IT IS BEING ADDED IN TECHNICALLY INTO PARCEL 16 LABELED ON MAP H. WE SHARE OUR UNITS AND WE HAVE NO EXTERNAL VEHICLE CONNECTIONS.

THAT'S IMPORTANT TOWER TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS TO MAINTAIN THAT BALANCE BUT ALSO TO BALANCE IN THE COMMUNITY AREA, OF EXISTING PATTERN DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IN THIS AREA ADJACENT TO TRAIL MARC. HERE'S THE HIGHLIGHT TO GIVE YOU A THOUGHT.

THE FINAL MAP I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU IS A CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT DOES A COUPLE THINGS FOR US. ONE IT SHOWS FOR YOU AREAS THAT ARE BUILT NOW.

SOME OF THIS WILL LOOK FAMILIAR IF YOU DID YOUR SITE VATE ANY POINT TO SEE WHERE WE HELD OUR COMMUNITY MEETING THERE AT THE TRAIL MARK CLUBHOUSE, AREAS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION CHIEFLY INTO THIS AREA IN THE FRONT. YOU WOULD HAVE NOTICED HA. AND THEN AREAS GOING INTO THESE PHASES AND THEN BUILT. IT'S ABOUT 800 PLATTED ENTITLED LOTS EITHER UNDERSTAND CONSTRUCTION OR PLATTED FOR SOME COMPONENT OF THAT, AND 300 RESIDENTS RESIDENCES BUILT IN WITHIN THAT SO THERE'S SOME FORM OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS AREA.

THE AREAS THAT ARE SHOWN IN THIS LIGHT BEIGE COLOR AND HERE AND HERE AGAIN ARE THE EXISTING AREAS OF TRAIL MARK. WE ARE NOTING INTO THE ADDED LANDS ONE WITH THIS LABEL AND THEN WITH THESE ACCESS ARROWS SHOWING HOW WE WOULD HAVE INTERNAL CONNECTION, VEHICLE CONNECTION. I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY BECAUSE ADORING OUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND A COUPLE OF OTHER MEETINGS WE HAD THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION THAT THIS ARROW INDICATES THAT WE'RE COMING INTO THIS WETLAND POD WITH A LOCAL ROAD CONNECTION AND THAT'S NOT THE INTENT. IT'S SIMPLY OVERSIZED FOR THAT PORTION.

IMAGINE IF YOU WILL CONNECTING TO OUR LOCAL ROAD AND SWOOPING INTO THIS UPLAND AREA SO THIS IS OUR WET LEFT HAND PRESERVATION PROTECTION AREA, AND THEN WE HAVE THIS INTERNAL CONNECTION HERE AS YOU WOULD SWOOP DOWN. SO DEVELOPMENT AS IT PROGRESSION AND SEQUENCES THROUGH EXISTING TRAIL MORK MARK WOULD BE ABLE TO COME INTO THIS AREA TO DEVELOP IT THROUGH THE ADDED LANDS.

THOSE ARE ALL MARKS OF SHOWING A CONSISTENT PATTERN, ONE OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS OF LOOKIN AT THE MANY COULD PLAN AMENDMENT. OUR PROTECTION AREAS AND THEN INTERNATIONAL INTERNAL CONNECTION. I JUST HIGHLIGHTED THAT FOR YOU ON INDIAN BRANCH RANCH ROAD.

THAT IS AN OR NOT IMPORTANT ACCESS AREA FOR THE LOTS THAT ARE OONG INDIAN BRANCH RANCH ROAD AND CHURCH ROAD. IT'S HOW FOLKS GAIN ACCESS TO THEIR PROPERTY NOW.

THIS SITE, THE ADDED LANDS DOES NOT INTERCONNECT TO THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD, ALTHOUGH TO THIS PORTION OF INDIAN BRANCH AND IT'S 60-FOOT WIDE RIGHT-OF-WAY. A PORTION OF THE EASEMENT IS WITHIN THE AREA HERE FOR THE ADDED LANDS, AND CREATES A BUFFER IF YOU WILL ON THAT SOUTHERN BOUNDARY. AGAIN, WE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE NORTHWEST SECTOR GYNEGUIDE LIENTS, CHIEFLY THE MAIN POINT WOULD BE ADDING IN A 35-FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE.

WHEN WE HAD OUR COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WAS ONE POINT OF INTEREST AS WE LOOKED AT A RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS PHONED IN AND PARTICIPATED WITH US WAS JUST ABOUT THE STYLE OF DEVELOPMENT AND SEPARATION BETWEEN USES SO WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT

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THE SUMMARY IS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT BUT THOSE BULLETS SUM UP THINGS.

WHAT'S THE TIMING OF DEVELOPMENT? WHAT'S GENERALLY HAPPENING IN TRAIL MARK AS A WHOLE? WHAT'S GREEN POINT UP? WHAT'S THE WHAT REALLY.

WHAT IS INDIAN BRANCH RANCH ROAD? ARE YOU CONNECTING TO IT? HOW IS TRAFFIC COMING ONTO THAT ROAD. DO WE STILL GET TO USE IT? THOSE ARE THE SOME OF THE JANET PROPERTY POARNS P WHAT WOULD BE THE RUFERG STANDARDS AND THEN DRAINAGE PATTERNS GENERALLY IN THE AREA. WE TOOK SOME TIME TO ADDRESS EACH OF THOSE POINTS AND ANSWER THATY AND WE HAVE HAD SOME FOLLOW-UP CONVERSATIONS WITH DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS SINCE THEN AS IT IT WAS APPROPRIATE, WEG, CONNECTING SOME WITH THE PROPERTY'S MANAGERS THERE IN TRAIL MARK SO YOU GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT TIMING OF DEVELOPMENT AND GENERALLY STATUS OF CONSTRUCTION AND HOW CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION COME IN AND OUT THAT TYPE OF THING. JUST GENERAL INTEREST IN WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE PROPERTY.

WE'VE ALSO REACHED OUT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS ONE OF WHICH IS A COMMENT, A PUBLIC COMMENT IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. LINGS OUT A COUPLE ISSUES.

WE'VE CONNECTED TWHOAS GENTLEMEN AND PARTNERED THEM UP WITH A FELLOW ENGINEERING FIRM TO HELP THEM ON THEY ARE ERR THEIR ENTITLEMENT PURSUIT THAT THEY HAVE ENVISIONED FOR THEMSELVES ON THOSE PROPERTIES SO IT'S LIKELY THEY'LL GO THROUGH A SIMILAR LAND USE ENTITLEMENT OR SOME TYPE OF LAND USE THAT THEY HAVE ENVISIONED TO THEIR PROPERTIES SO THEY WERE INTERESTED IN WHAT'S HAMMING HERE AS IT AFFECTS THEIR PROPERTIES AS WELL AS SETTING THE TONE FOR DEVELOPMENT. CYNTHIA DID A GREAT JOB TRAINING TRANSMITTAL, ALTHOUGH THE PLANNING BOARD CERTAINLY FIRST IN TRANSMITTAL AND ADOPTION. THIS JUST KIND OF IS THROUGH FOR US BECAUSE WE DO HAVE OUR OTHER COMPANION APPLICATION THAT WE WANTED TO HIT HOME.

AND AS WITH A LOT OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS, A LOT OF FOLKS ARE INTERESTED IN SITE PLAN SIDE OF IT AND WHAT THAT WILL BE, AND THAT COMES WITH OUR NEXT SET OF COMMUNITY SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, ALL OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS ARE HERE.

WE HAVE THE ONE THAT HAS DIALLED IN PERHAPS ON THE PHONE AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS. >> GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. FR>> UM. LET'S SEE WHO WE'VE GOT IN

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> NONE. >> NONE HERE.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ONLINE? >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WONDERFUL. OKAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO REBUT

ANYTHING, THEN. >> YUP. >> OKAY.

LET'S GO THROUGH THE CHECKLIST HERE FOR QUESTIONS FOR LYNN, FOR STAFF OR LYNN'S NAME.

AND COMMENTS AS WELL. DR. MCCORMICK. QUESTIONS?

>> NO QUESTIONS, NO COMMENTS. >> SORRY TO WAKE YOU UP THERE, BILL.

>> HA HA. >> DR. HILLSEN BACK? >> I WONDERED HOW MANY UNITS WERE TO BE BUILT ON THE 71 ACRE PARCEL? I SAW ONE PASSING REFERENCE IN THE 99 PAGES OF THE APPLICATION THAT SAY 14 UNITS BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, NUMBER ONE, HOW MANY UNITS WOULD BE BUILT? AND NUMBER TWO, IS THIS DEVELOPMENT OUT OF SPACE TO BUILD THIS DENSITY THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE BUT TO BUILD ON THE PROPERTINA IS ALREADY DU RI --

>> I'LL TAKE THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU, DR. HISSEN FOR THAT QUESTION.

THE REFERENCE TO 15 UNITS IS THE EXISTING ENTITLEMENT UNDER -- THIS LAND USE ASSESSMENT HAS THE TEXT AMENDMENT WITH IT TYING IN RESIDENTIAL C, WHICH PROVIDES FOR A DENSITY OF SIX DWELLING UNITS TO THE NET ACRE. THE PROPERTY IS 70, 71 ACRES.

WE APPROXIMATELY 25 ACRES OF WETLANDS. DENSITY IS AFFORDED ON A WET ACREAGE. SO A POTENTIAL MAXIMUM OF UNITS TO BE ON THE PROPERTY WOULD BE IN THE 276 RANGE. LIKELY THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT WE WILL SEE IS -- IT WILL BE REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WE SEE IN TRAIL MARK NOW, WHICH RANGES FROM WE HAVE INTERNAL LOTS IN THE C AND D PORTION, THE CENTER BY -- 53 LARGER RANGING OUT AS YOU GO ALONG SIX MILE CREEK TO 80 FOOT LOTS. SO IT IS REALLY MORE OF RESPONDING TO THE MARKET.

AND ADDRESSING WHAT IS USING THEIR RIGHTS THAT ARE ENTITLED TO THE PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN.

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QUESTION THERE. >> WELL, YOU DIDN'T REALLY ADDRESS WHETHER YOU HAVE A ROOM

TO BUILD THE UNITS ON WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED? >> IT IS A VARIETY OF LOT SIZES TO ADDRESS THAT DENSITY ALLOCATION, RIGHT? SO I'M DELIVERING WHETHER IT BE ADDITIONAL LOTS WITHIN THE AREA THAT WE HAVE IN OUR LANDS, WHICH FOR REFERENCE -- EXCUSE ME, I CAN'T GRAB HERE FOR THIS MATCH. THE EXISTING PROPERTY, WE'LL CALL IT TRAIL MARK PROPER IS ABOUT 1200 ACRES. WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT CONSERVATION AREA THAT TAKES OFF OF THAT 1200 ACRES. WE HAVE UP LAND AREAS THAT YOU HAVE FOR LOTS.

BUT THEN SOME OF THAT AREA IS DEVOTED FOR WHAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE, ROADWAYS AND PONTSDZ AND RECREATION AREAS, RIGHT? SO THEN WHEN YOU PUT IN THE LOT MIX, THAT THE MARKET LOOKS FOR, THAT IS HOW YOU FIT IN AND LAND PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY. SO, AGAIN, OWNER -- THE OWNER APPLICANT FOR THE ADD ON LANDS, EXISTING ENTITLEMENTS MAKE THE COHESIVE PLAN TO INTERCONNECT AND BRING IN MORE OF THE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU SEE THERE FOR TRAIL MARK.

>> OKAY. BUT WHEN THIS WAS PLANNED AND APPROVED BACK IN 1991, YOU OR YOUR PREDECESSORS WERE AWARE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO NEED ROADS AND PARK AREAS, OPEN SPACE, WETLANDS SET ASIDE AND SO FORTH. SO ARE YOU OUT OF ROOM TO BUILD

ON WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEEN APPROVED? >> I WOULD SAY THAT FROM 1991 TO HERE, THE REGULATION STANDARDS CHANGED A BIT WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED AS FAR AS ROADWAYS REQUIREMENTS AND ET CETERA. SO DEPENDING ON LOT MIX NO NOT A QUESTION OF BEING OUT OF ROOM SO MUCH AS EXISTING PROPERTY AND EXISTING ENTITLEMENTS TO PLAN FOR THIS.

SO THE ANSWER TO THAT WOULD BE NO -- I WOULD LIKE LIAM O'REILLY FROM GREEN POINT ADDRESS THE

MARKETING AND DESIGNS QUESTIONS FOR THAT. >> LIAM O'REILLY WITH GREEN POINT COMMUNITIES. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, FRANKLY, LINDSAY POINTS THERE'S 40 FOOT LOTS UP TO 80 FOOT LOTS. SO WE'RE SEEING A BIGGER DEMAND FOR LARGER LOTS.

SO POTENTIALLY, YES, THERE COULD BE NOT ENOUGH UP LAND TO BUILD THE FULL 4278.

SO WE OWN THE LAND NOW. WE THOUGHT IT WAS BEST TO SPREAD THE EXISTING ENTITLELIES.

SURELY IF YOU DID A LOT OF 43 LOTS THEN YOU COULD POTENTIALLY FIT IN MORE THAN THIS.

I HATE TO SAY MAYBE BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE OURSELVES FLEXIBILITY FOR THE FUTURE.

>> GOOD -- >> OKAY. I HAVE A JGENERAL COMMENT.

AND I JUST WONDERED IF OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ARE READING IT THIS WAY.

ONLY PARAGRAPH ONE ON PAGE 9, THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY DISCOURAGES AMENDMENTS FOR AGRICULTURE UNLESS THE APPLICANT CAN DEMONSTRATE THE AMENDMENT BY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT JOB CREATION, PRESERVATION OF NATURAL -- THROUGH PUBLIC BENEFIT.

IT IS ONE THING IF MOST OF THIS PUBLIC BENEFIT COULD NOT BE REALIZED ON PROPERTY THAT IS ALREADY IN YOUR APPROVED GRI GRI -- OTHERWISE I DON'T REALLY SEE ANY PUBLIC BENEFIT TO WHAT

IS BEING PROPOSED. >> SO LET'S ADDRESS THAT. THIS IS AN EXISTING ENTITLEMENT PROVIDED FOR THIS PROPERTY. THAT POLICY, AGAIN, REALLY DEALS WITH WHEN YOU'RE INTEBS FLYING OR -- INTENSIFYING OR ADDING OR INC INCREASING INTO THOSE LOTS.

TO FOCUS ON WHAT WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL ENTITLEENT BUCKET, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE COUNTY NEED TO BE INCREASED, RIGHT, IN THIS SENSE. SO IT IS NOT A DIRECT WALK OVER IN THIS PLACE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE EXISTING ENTITLEMENT AND WE JUST ADDRESSED WHAT THE NEED OR DRIVER BEHIND IT, BESIDES BEING, ONE, IT IS A CONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA.

EVERYTHING HAS BEEN FULLY MITIGATED FOR IN THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE ST. JOHN'S DRI PROVISIONS. SO, AGAIN, IT ADDS TO AND DEVELOPS THAT QUALITY OF COMMUNITY THAT WE SEE HERE IN TRAIL MARK.

SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A NUANCE THERE, DR. HILSENBACH WORKING WITH A DRI MAYBE THAN

THE LAST AMENDMENT WE SAW. >> ALL RIGHT. FURTHER DOWN ON PAGE 9 THE FIFTH

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INTERPRETING IT DIFFERENT LY THN OTHER PEOPLE. >> YOU MAY NOT BE INTERPRET ING

IT DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHER PEOPLE. >> OKAY.

GREAT. >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AT THE END BEFORE WE VOTE. I'M FINISHED WITH MY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. MR. WAINWRIGHT.

>> YES. IT IS LATE. I SEE THIS SPECIFICALLY AS AN INFEEL. THAT'S THE WAY I SEE THIS. AND A POSITIVE INFILL.

AT THE SAME TIME, THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IS AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF POLICY APPLICATION THAT THE COUNTY HAS AVAILABLE TO IT, IN TERMS OF LAND USE.

SO I'M HAVING A PROBLEM SEEING -- AND FRANKLY, I WANT TO SEE IT, BUT I DO NOT SEE IT, HOW THIS -- THIS HAS ANY POSITIVE AFFECT FOR A.1.2.5 PROVIDE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE NEED FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND HOW THIS AMENDMENT PROVIDES ANY BENEFIT TO THE PUBLIC, WHICH IS

REQUIRED. >> SO LET'S ADDRESS THAT HEAD ON.

THE GRAPHIC PULL BACK UP IS THE OVERALL MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR MAP H.

AND WE CAN'T MISS THAT POINT ABOUT WHERE THESE RIGHTS ARE COMING FROM.

AND THAT DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT. ALSO KNOWING COMING OUT OF THE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY, WHICH HAS A MIX OF USES, RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL, JUST IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES BUT ALSO IN THE SUB TYPES FOR EACH OF THOSE COMPONENTS, RIGHT? SO BY ENABLING AND ADDRESSING THAT MARKET NEED THAT WE'VE SEEN AND HEARD LIAM TALK TO US ABOUT, ADDING IN AND ANNEXING IN THAT PORTION, WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW FOR THE PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN RECOGNIZED OF THE ST. JOHN'S DRI AND THE SIX MILE CREEK SOUTH PORTION OF THE PUD.

SO THAT, I THINK REALLY FRAMES OUT FOR YOU THE OTHER SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS THAT YOU SEE HERE, THIS MAP AFFORDS US TO SEE THE CONTEXT INTO THE DRI AS WELL AS THE CONSERVATION AREAS TO BRING FORWARD TO CONTRIBUTE TO ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION AND THAT INTERNET CONNECTION THERE. AT PUBLIC BENEFIT, IF YOU WILL HAS ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER CONDITIONS THAT REQUIRE HIGH LEVEL DEMAND OF TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS DEDICATION OF LAND FOR THE PUBLIC SCHOOL THAT IS AT THE CORNER AND PROVISION OF PARK SPACE WHICH THEY EXCEED INTERNALLY. SO IT HAS BEEN MET THROUGH THOSE

CONDITIONS. >> OH, CONTRAIRE. IT IS NOT VERY OFTEN THAT I WOULD EVER DISAGREE WITH YOU, BECAUSE YOU COVERED THE GROUND. BUT THIS PROVIDES THAT YOU

PROVIDE THOSE BENEFITS HERE NOW FOR THESE -- FOR THIS AMENDMENT. >> YES.

SO THIS REALLY TUCKS IT IN FOR US, I BELIEVE. AND SHOWS THAT CONTINUATION, ALLOWING US TO PRESERVE IN FOR THIS AREA OF MEETING THE WETLAND CONSERVATION AREAS THAT WE HAVE THAT CONNECT INTO SIX MILE CREEK, WHICH, AGAIN, PART OF THE BLUE WAY AREA FOR NORTHWEST SECTOR. WE MEET THOSE PROVISIONS F FOR -- PROVIDING A NEIGHBORHOOD MIX AND CONTINUATION HERE, AS WELL, AGAIN, HIGHLIGHTING AND ALLOWING TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE THAT'S ALREADY PROVIDED FOR ITS PUBLIC BENEFIT WITHIN THIS AREA.

THIS TO ME SHOWS IT GRAPHICALLY HOW THE LAND FITS IN TO THE EXISTING CHARACTER, THE PATTERNS AND DEVELOPING AND ACHIEVING THAT PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED THROUGH PRIVATE

INVESTMENT. >> THANK YOU. FR>> ME.

SO YOU'VE GOT 2200 AND 78 UNIT CREDITS WOULD YOU SAY, CORRECT? >> CORRECT.

>> AND 8 OR -- >> 8 OR 900, YES, THROUGH SOME FORM OF DEVELOPMENT, YES.

> AND POTENTIALLY AS THIS BUILDS OUT A MAX 276 BUT PROBABLY LESS IN REALISTIC

TERMS. >> YES. >> YOUR SCHOOL CONCURRENCE SEE, HOW IS THAT FOCUSED? IS THAT BASED ON NEW LIKE A NEW DEVELOPMENT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. SO THEY MITIGATED THROUGH THAT THROUGH THE LAND MITIGATION AT THE SCHOOL LAND CORNER WE KNOW IT AS PARCEL 24. WE'RE NOT INCREASING STUDENT

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>> ALL RIGHT. I MEAN, FOR THE FOLKS AT HOME OR HERE, WE'VE SEEN THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES HERE, WHERE THERE IS ADDITIONAL ENTITLEMENTS REMAINING.

AND THE PEOPLE STILL KEEP COMING AND THEY'RE STILL BUILDING HOUSES AND I THINK WE DID ONE OF THESE NOT THAT LONG AGO, ACTUALLY. SO I AM -- I'D SUPPORT THIS.

I DON'T SEE THIS AS BEING AN UNUSUAL THING. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

MS. PERKINS? >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. BUT THIS AREA, THE RAP RAP -- RAPIDLY GROWING AREA AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT DECISION TO THE COMMUNITY ITSELF SO I

WOULD SUPPORT IT. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MADAVINO?

>> GREG, DID WE LOSE YOU? ARE YOU HANGING OUT WITH BILL, TAKING A NAP.

>> SORRY. I FORGOT THE MUTE BUTTON. >> PLEASE GO AHEAD.

>> I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION. AND STRUGGLE WITH SUGGESTION THERE IS NO PUBLIC BENEFIT IF WE'RE JUST TAKING UNITS AND SPREADING THEM OVER A -- AND IN THE ORIGINAL DRI, WE DETERMINE THAT PUT NECESSARILY PUBLIC BENEFIT IS BEING PROVIDED FOR ALL OF THOSE UNITS, THEN THAT PUBLIC BENEFIT NOW APPLIES TO THIS PARCEL IN MY OPINION.

AND BY WAY OF AN EXAMPLE IF OUR TRAFFIC REPORT SAID WE NEED TO DO $50 MILLION WORTH OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND WE ONLY BUILT 1800, WELL, THAT WOULD BE A HUGE PUBLIC IMPROVE MMENT BECAUSE WE STILL BE DOING THE $50 MILLION. BUT AS LONG AS WE DO THE $50 MILLION, IN MY OPINION WE COVERED THE BENEFIT OF THE EXISTING DRI PROPERTY AND THE NEW PROPERTY.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S SEE, WE DID PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE DID THE REBUTTAL.

WE DID QUESTIONS. I GUESS WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY, THEN.

YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? ALL RIGHT.

BACK IN THE AGENCY, THEN. MORE COMMENTS OR A MOTION? >> MOVE APPROVAL.

>> I GOT TO USE THE REPORT. >> SORRY, WHO SAID THAT? >> GREG MADAVINA, JUST MUMMUMBL.

>> WAS THERE A MOTION THERE? >> YES. I'M MOVING APPROVAL FOR CMPA

BETWEEN-08 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FORMER STAFFS. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MADAVINA, WE'LL GIVE THAT TO MEGAN BECAUSE

ARCHIE HAS A MILLION OF THEM. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> HI, THIS IS RICHARD

HILSENBACH, I HAVE A FEW OTHER COMMENTS. >> GO FOR IT.

>> I SEE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT AS FURTHER WISPING AWAY OF NATURAL AND AGRICULTURAL LANDS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY SPECIFICALLY AGRICULTURAL LANDS. I WISH THE COUNTY COMMISSION WOULD RECOGNIZE THIS EVENTUALLY AS WELL AS THE DBA BOARD -- AND I'M SPEAKING AS AN ECOLOGY GIST HERE. THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT NATURAL COMMUNITY IN FLORIDA AND ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. AND THAT'S WHAT THE MATRIX OF THIS PROPERTY IS.

BUT THE PRIMARY COMMUNITY IN WHICH ALL OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE ARE EMBEDDED.

THEY COMPRISE OF THE WATER STUDY THAT IN TURN REPRESENTS [INDISCERNIBLE] AND THERE IS JUST NOT THE RECOGNITION OF THE WATER SHED QUALITIES AND FLAT WOODS AND WHAT THEY DO IN TERMS OF CAPTURING HOLDING AND STORING AND RELEASING WATER AND I WISH

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>> YOU'RE WELCOME. OF COURSE. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND FOR APPROVAL, BARRING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, AND HEARING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE, WORKING DOWN THE LIST, D DR. MCCORMICK.

>> WELL, I'M UNMUTED NOW. SO AND I'M GOING TO VOTE NO. >> OKAY.

DR. HILSENBACH? >> NO. >> MR. WAINWRIGHT.

>> YES. >> MR. COPIEN HAPHER SAYS YES. MS. PERKINS?

>> YES. >> AND MR. MADAVINO. >> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES 4-2. ALL RIGHT. THAT IS IT FOR OUR AGENDA ITEMS

[Reports]

TODAY, STAFF REPORTS? >> WE HAVE YOUR NEXT MEETING IS MAY 21ST, YOU HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS ON THAT AGENDA AS WELL. WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU THERE.

>> SEVERAL BEING THREE OR NINE? >> SEVERAL BEING EIGHT. >> EIGHT.

OH, LOVELY. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, AGENCY REPORTS? ANY MEMBERS? ONLINE? I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR DOING IT ONLINE. AND ARCHIE FOR COMING IN. I GUESS AS WE GET MORE NORMAL, WE CAN COME IN AGAIN. BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU ALL. ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING. >> I AM NEVER ASLEEP. I'M ONLY MUTE.

ON MUTE. >> HA HA. >> BECAUSE WE'D HEAR THE

SNORING. >> NO, YOU DON'T. >> MR. CHAIR, JUST TWO MEANT, FIRST OF ALL, IF THERE ARE ANY EXTRANEOUS NOISES FROM THE PHONE SYSTEM DR. MCCORMICK IS ALWAYS

THE FIRST SUSPECT IN MY MIND. BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY -- >> YEAH, THANKS PATRICK.

>> I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH HOW THE AGENCY OPERATES. ITS FLEXIBILITY, FRANKLY IS KIND OF DOGGING THIS -- YOU KNOW, IN THESE CHALLENGING TIMES, INTERESTING TIMES.

AND I AM FOR ONE, AND I KNOW THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE VERY GRATEFUL TO HAVE THE PUBLIC SERVANTS ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCIES.

SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >> WOW. YOU'RE WELCOME.

WE'LL GLADLY ACCEPT RAISES AS WELL. >> HA HA.

>> ALL RIGHT. ALL KIDDING ASIDE I THINK IT IS A GOOD THING.

>> SECOND. >> IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? >> SO MOVED.

>> THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. APPRECIATE IT.

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