Mar 17, 2020 Board of County Commissioners

[Call to Order]

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>> NOW CALLED TO ORDER KATIE MARCH 17, 2020 REGULAR MEETING OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. MAY I HAVE THE CLERK CALLED THE ROLE.

COMMISSIONERS.MAY I HAVE THE CLERK CALLED THE ROLE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE PASTOR MACK MCCOURY WITH COLONIAL CHURCH COME FORWARD AND GIVE THE IMPLICATION. THANK YOU FOR COMING.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND. >> GOOD MORNING. IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO PROVIDE THE INVOCATION. FAITH IS A GREATER FORCE THAN FEAR AND WHEN WE PUT FAITH INTO PRACTICE, I BELIEVE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST REPOSITIONS FEAR IN OUR LIVES BECAUSE IN PROVERBS 18 IN VERSE 10 IT SAYS THE NAME OF THE LORD IS A STRONG TOWER AND A RIGHTEOUS MAN RUNS TO IT AND IS SAFE. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEAVING US IN OUR COUNTY AND MAKING DECISIONS THAT ARE WISE. LET'S PRAY. LORD, WE LOVE YOU, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER AND MAKE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT THE PUBLIC AND MAKE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT THE PEOPLE OF THIS PART OF THE WORLD. WE THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE DOING. WE KNOW YOU ARE A STRONG TOWER AND A REFUGE IN TIMES WHEN A SPIRIT OF FEAR IS RUNNING RAMPANT.HANK YOU THAT WE CAN LOOK TO YOU AND BE SAFE.

IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF YOU ARE JOINING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER

GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> YOU MAY BE SEATED.

[Public Comment]

COMMISSIONER WALKER WILL NOW OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.

REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS WILL HAVE THEIR OWN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

ANY PERSON WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD SHOULD COME TO THE PODIUM AND WE HAVE TWO.

STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS AND EACH PERSON WILL BE PROVIDED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND SHALL COMPLY WITH THE BOARD PRESIDENT RULES OF DECORUM WHICH I WILL BRIEFLY GO OVER.

COMMENTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE NOT TO AN INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER AND MAY NOT INCLUDE THE DEMAND FOR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD.

THE PERSON ADDRESSED THE BOARD WITH PERSONAL AND PERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR. MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ANY DISRUPTIVE DEMONSTRATIONS OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS. I WOULD ASK THAT ANY SPEAKER COME FORWARD THAT HAS ANY PRESENTATION TO GIVE US TODAY PLEASE PROVIDE THAT TO THE CLERK OF COURT WHO IS SITTING TO MY RIGHT INTO YOUR LIFE.T THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN PUBLIC

COMMENT. PLEASE COMPORT ONLINE UPON THE >> HIGH.

SHERRY BADGER, 2772 S. COLLINS AVENUE. THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I LET YOU GUYS KNOW THERE WAS A SURVEY DONE, AND ELEVATION SURVEY.

THE LITTLE GUY DID HIS DUE DILIGENCE TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO MAKE.

CALLED ME AND MADE AN APPOINTMENT. FRIDAY AFTERNOON ON THE 29TH, HE CANCELED THE MEETING AT 5:33 IN THE AFTERNOON THAT WE HAD FOR MONDAY.

I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HIM SINCE, SO MAYBE ONE OF YOU ALL COULD GIVE THIS INFORMATION APPEAR AND DO YOUR JOB. ANOTHER THING IS THE TRUCKS HAVEN'T STOPPED.

THERE IS IMPROPER SIGNING, THE TRUCKS CAN'T EVEN SEE IT. NONE OF THIS STUFF HAS BEEN ADDRESSED. TRUCKS STILL COMING AND YOUR EMPLOYEES ON THE LOWER LEVEL ARE DOING THEIR JOB. I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS STONEWALLED AT THE TOP TO CALL ME AT 5:33 ON A FRIDAY AND CANCEL A MEETING ON MONDAY. AND THIS IS WAY BEFORE CORONAVIRUS. AND ANOTHER THING, I DON'T KNOW IF 16 AND MASTERS DRIVE IS YOU FOR THE CITY BUT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO BE STANDING UP BECAUSE IF YOU PUT A 14 PUMP GAS STATION AND THERE, YOU ARE GOING TO CREATE A CLUSTER. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S YOU OR THE CITY, BUT YOU WILL REALLY NEED TO EVALUATE YOUR STAFF AND TRAFFIC IMPACT.

THANK YOU. GOD BLESS, HAVE A GOOD DAY. >> MR. CONRAD COULD YOU LOOKING

FOR? >> PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> GOOD MORNING

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>> GOOD MORNING >> MY NAME IS JOHN GORMAN 795 STOKES LANDING RD.

I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS VERY BRIEFLY THE DISCUSSION ITEM 2 THE SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTALS. THERE IS TWO THINGS. IT'S NOT OVER REGULATE THIS.

THERE IS A FEW BONA FIDE PROBLEMS. ONE IS PARKING.

>> WE HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA. THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS IT AT THAT TIME IN

PUBLIC COMMENT >> OKAY. THAT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT, PLEASE. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD OR NOT AGENDA ITEMS. MR. CHAIRMAN, NOT SEEING ANYONE

COME FORWARD WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME. >> WERE NOW OPEN.ÁDELETELASTÁ

[Consent Agenda]

>> >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN IN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

SEEING NONE

[Regular Agenda]

THE REGULAR AGENDA FOR >> I WAS INFORMED BY STAFF MEMBER 4 IS GOING TO BE WITHDRAWN. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO VOTE FOR NOT.

IS THAT STILL THE CASE? >> I BELIEVE NUMBER 4 IS A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE TO A DATE CERTAIN. SO THEREFORE THE REQUEST IS STILL OPEN AND CONTINUE THE ITEM. YOU CAN DO IT DURING ADDITIONS AND DELETIONS TO THE REGULAR OR

YOU CAN DO IT WHEN THE ITEM COMES UP. >> BEFORE IT COMES UP AGAINST MR. CHAIRMAN AND WENT TO MAIL A LETTER? I HAVE NO OTHER SUGGESTIONS.

I'M GOOD WITH IT. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> NO SIR >> ADMINISTRATION? >> NO DELETIONS.

>> I THINK THIS IS FOR ADDITIONS AND DELETIONS. THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR WOULD COME BEFORE THE BOARD THIS AFTERNOON WITH YOUR APPROVAL.

>> WE WILL ADJUST AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10. BUT THAT IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

10. >> MOVE THE REGULAR AGENDA >> SECOND

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?EEING NONE.

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THE SUBS AND SUBSTANCE WERE MADE WITH PLEASE >> MR. CHAIR I DID HAVE AN APPLICATION BEING SUBMITTED AT A MEETING ON JANUARY 10 OF LAST YEAR, 2019, AT APPROXIMATELY 8:30 IN THE MORNING WITH SHERIFF DAVID SHORE UNDER SHERRIF MACK KLEIN AND OFFICER JASON CHATFIELD DISCUSSED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. BUT I'VE NOT HAD ANY ADDITIONAL

COMMUNICATIONS. >> COMMISSIONABLE DRINKING > HAD A MEETING JANUARY 10 OF 2019 WITH SHERIFF I THINK WE DISCUSSED SOME FINANCING AND HAD A MEETING 3/3 OF 20 AT 8:00 A.M. WITH JASON CHATFIELD AND WE DISCUSSED CHANGES TO THE PROJECT.

I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH BILL FREEMAN WHERE WE DISCUSSED THE PROJECT ALSO IN THE CHANGES IN WEATHER WE WERE ON TRACK TO BE ON TIME AND WHAT WAS GOING AND HOW THE PROJECT WAS GOING AND

MADE TWO SITE VISITS IN TWO SEPARATE TIMES. >> IF I COULD AMEND MY REGULAR COMMENT DID RECEIVE A REGULAR PHONE CALL FOR JASON CHATFIELD. THAT WAS APPROXIMATELY TWO WEEKS AGO LATE IN THE AFTERNOON. I DID NOT DISCUSS THE PROJECT.

>> I HAVE SOME DISCLOSURES TO MAKE AS WELL. I MET WITH ON-SITE AND TOWARD THE PROPERTY WITH JASON CHATFIELD ON JANUARY 16, 2020 AT 3:00 P.M.. WE DISCUSSED THE

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I HAD A MEETING WITH JASON CHATFIELD ON MARCH 2 AT 9:30 IN THE MORNING.

WE HAD AN EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION AND LEAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION WITH REARD TO GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE PRESENTED BY HASKELL AND WE DISCUSSED THE DESIRE TO NOT CONSTRUCT THE HANGER AND THE REASONS BEHIND NETWORK AIRCRAFT ESSENTIAL ETC. AND ALSO DISCUSSED SIMS BUILDING AND TALKED ABOUT THE BUDGET AND TALKED ABOUT USING THE FTC TO FACILITY AND THEN WENT DOWN SPECIFICALLY DURING LINE ITEMS. I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT FOR OUR MEETING ON THE SECOND. THEY TALKED ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN AND THE CONTRIBUTION OF $2 MILLION AND SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS THE TRAINING FACILITY TO DISCUSS THE PROCEEDS LOGGING DISCUSS THE HANGER THE TIMELINE. THE HANGER FOR MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT. WE DISCUSSED ÃTHE DESIRE TO CONSTRUCT THE HANGER.

THAT SHOULD SUFFICE FOR ME AS WELL. >> FOR THE RECORD THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 PUBLIC HEARING FOR MAJOR MODIFICATION 2000 1911 THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE TRAINING FACILITY. THIS IS A REQUEST TO RESUME THE ADJOINING LAND TO ACCOMMODATE THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE SITE DESIGN AND UPDATE THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF INTERSTATE 95 AND IS SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD 208 XT ROAD 16 WITH THE ACCESS PROVIDED BY AGRICULTURAL SEXUAL DRIVE. THE ZONING MAP SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS PRIMARILY PUD AND IS SURROUNDED BY OPEN WORLD. SO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY TRAINING FACILITY WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 2015 AND COMPRISED OF TWO SEPARATE VESSELS DIVIDED BY 100 FOOT WIDE ACCESS EASEMENT FOR THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF AGRICULTURAL CENTER DRIVE. THE ASSOCIATED MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN DESCRIBE THE PROPERTY TO BE UTILIZED PRIMARILY FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND EMERGENCY SERVICES TO SUSPEND THE WESTERN 49 ACRE PORTION AS WELL IS THE ALLOWANCE OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ON THE EASTERN 16 NATURE JOHN MEIGS ACRE PORTION THIS IS THE ORIGINALLY PLANNED MAP IT DOES SHOW THE DEVELOPMENT PRIMARILY ON THE WESTERN PORTION AND THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. SOME MINOR FUND MODIFICATIONS CONFIRMED EARLIER TO REVISE THE PHASING FROM A TWO TENURE PHASES TO A SINGLE TENURE PHASE AND INCLUDED SOME RECONFIGURATION EASEMENT FOR THE EXTENSION WAS RELOCATED TO THE EASTERN BOUNDARY ADJACENT TO 95 AND CONSTRUCTION PLANS HAVE BEEN ÃYOU CAN SEE THE AERIAL MAP SHOWS THE IMPROVEMENTS BEING STARTED. THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH INCLUDES SOME OTHER COUNTY PFACILITIES, AGRICULTURAL FACILITY AS WELL AS EMERGENCY SERVICES.

SO THIS SEEKS TO REZONE ADJACENT OPEN MORE OR LESS TO BE INCLUDED TO ACCOMMODATE.

THE HUNDRED FOOT WIDE STRIP PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL 5.2 ACRES AND A SMALL PARCEL TO THE SOUTH PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL ONE ACRE FOR A TOTAL OF 6.1 ACRES TO BE ADDED.

THE ENTIRE SITE FOR THE DOLMA DEVELOPMENT IS NOW APPROXIMATELY 72 ACRES.

THIS IS A LOOK AT THE PROPOSED MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP THAT'S INCLUDED WITH THE MAJOR MODIFICATION. IT DOES SHOW SOME RELOCATION OF SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS THE ACCESS EASEMENT FOR THE EXTENSION. THESE ARE THE LANDS THAT ARE BEING INCLUDED AS PART OF THE PUD AS YOU CAN SEE THESE LANDS WERE WITHIN THE OVERALL PROJECT. THEY HAVE BEEN ACQUIRED BY THE COUNTY THROUGH PURCHASE OR DONATION. SO THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP DOES INCLUDE UPDATES TO CLARIFY THE USE IS CONSISTENT WITH GENERAL PUBLIC AND EMERGENCY SERVICES AS WELL AS SOME RESIDENTIAL AND REMOVES THE ALLOWANCE FOR THE SEPARATE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES.

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IT UPDATES THE PRESERVATION OF OPEN SPACE CALCULATION SPACE WITH THE TOTAL ACREAGE OF THE PUD. AND REDESIGN OF THE FACILITY ON THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP. IT DOES INCLUDE THE TWO WAIVERS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TO ALLOW FLEXIBILITY AND SOME OF THE STABILIZED SERVICES AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING.

SO THE REZONING OF THE LAND WILL ACCOMMODATE THE ALREADY APPROVED USES AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE THE STANDARD DESIGNS IN ARTICLE 16 SHORT THE MORE INTENSE USES PROVIDE ADEQUATE SETBACKS FOR PROPERTY LINES IN ADJACENT USES AND NO CHANGES ARE PROPOSED TO THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. STAFF IS NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE REGARDING THIS APPLICATION. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND PROVIDES SIX FINDING OF FACTS TO SUPPORT THE MISSION AS WELL AS SEVEN FINDINGS SHOULD THE BOARD DECIDE TO DENY THIS APPLICATION AND STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE MIXED-USE LAND USE. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU.

MR. SHEFFIELD, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? .

WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN A PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1. PLEASE COME FORWARD. PUBLIC COMMENT?

WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE CLOSE WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR

DISCUSSION OR ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> IT IS DISTRICT TO NUMB THE OTHER COMMENTS YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE THEM FIRST AND PREPARED TO MOVE THIS ON.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE COURTESY. I MOVED TO APPROVE THE TRAINING FACILITY BASED UPON SIX

FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT >> SECOND

>> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. BEFORE WE VOTE, TO SAY, JASON, THANK YOU FOR THE HELP AND UNDERSTANDING. IT'S VERY HELPFUL. AND THANK YOU.

>> PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES 4 TO 0. ALONG AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO NUMB.

>> IF I MAY, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE BEVERLY BEFORE SHE WALKS OUT.

BEVERLY FRAZIER OUR PLANNER OR NEXT DAY IS TOMORROW. SHE HAS BEEN A STELLAR WORKER IN OUR DEPARTMENT. IT'S A TOUGH JOB AND SHE ROUNDS UP ALL COMMENTS AND GOES TO NORTHWEST AND IT DEALS WITH LOTS OF MEETINGS IN SHORT TIMES.

I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE SHE'S MOVING ALONG SO WE WISH HER WELL BUT I WANTED TO SAY IT OUT

LOUD AND LET YOU KNOW THIS IS Ã TOMORROW IS HER LAST DAY. >> MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK MS. FRAZIER. WE WORK TOGETHER FOR A LONG TIME AND AM APPRECIATIVE OF HER

AND HER PROFESSIONALS IN HER EXPERTISE. >> GOOD MORNING

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>> GOOD MORNING, SIR. FOR THE RECORD, JOSEPH CEARLEY GROWTH MANAGEMENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. TYPICALLY THERE'S ONLY TWO DISCUSSION ITEMS ON THIS PACKET AND TYPICALLY WE WILL READ THROUGH THE FOLLOWING ENGRAVER, AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THAT'S

HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED I CAN DO THAT. >> ONE AT A TIME.HANK YOU.

ASK SO THE TWO ITEMS UP FOR DISCUSSION TODAY IS ADJACENT PROPERTY NOTIFICATIONS.

THE STAFF HAS RESEARCHED AND ASSISTED INCREASING THE DISTANCE OF THOSE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES BY CERTIFIED MAIL OF THE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN A SPECIFIED BUSINESS AND THE SECOND TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WILL BE SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTALS IN HIS PROPOSED REGULATIONS FOR MITIGATING IMPACTS OF SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTALS AND PROPERTIES.

MOVING ON TO THE FIRST DISCUSSION ITEM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER NOTIFICATION, THE ISSUES THAT COME BEFORE THIS COURT SOMETIME LAST YEAR AS IT HAS TO BE BROUGHT BACK I

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WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE PROJECT SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED NOTICES AND OTHERS RECEIVED NOTICE PRIOR TO THE MEETINGS EVENTS WILL BE INCREASED BACK. OUR CURRENT PRACTICE IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY IS TO MAIL NOTICES TO GO TO OWNERS WITHIN 300 FEET FROM LOTS SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS SUCH AS A MINOR MODIFICATION OR LARGER APPLICATIONS.

IN FACT THE ENTIRE PUD IN THE MAIL NOTICES GO TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS 300 FEET OUTSIDE.

SOME OF THE PROS AND CONS OF INCREASING THE DISTANCE WILL BE ADDITIONAL COST TO THE [INDISCERNIBLE] AND THE BOARD PACKET ADDITIONALLY NOTIFICATIONS ARE 300 FEET FROM THE PENDING PROJECT SITE AND THEREFORE THE BOARD SHOULD CONSIDER AMENDING THE BOARD NOTICE AS WELL. AND THIRDLY ADDITIONAL LOADS WILL INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF APPEAL SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT SEPARATELY.

SOME OF THE OPTIONS STAFF CAME UP WITH IS TO EXTEND THE BOUNDARIES OF THE MAILINGS FROM 300 FEET TO ANOTHER SPECIFIED. IF YOU LOOK AT JURISDICTIONAL RESEARCH STAFF PROVIDED IN THE PACKET IS 300 FEET FROM FIVE TO 500 FEET AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE ÃTHERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS WHERE THEY GO BEYOND A THOUSAND FEET TO PROVIDE NOTICE TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

SO THAT KIND OF PUTS IT OFF WITH THE ITEM AND I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO THE BOARD

>> ANY DISCUSSION THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO HAVE? DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM AN

ADDITIONAL DISTANCE? >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I WANT TO COMMEND STAFF FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION. I THINK THAT GIVES US A PICTURE OF WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES IN SIMILAR SIZE MAKEUP DEMOGRAPHICS ARE DOING AND I WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO WHAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS AND WANTS. THIS IS VERY HELPFUL LOVE THIS DIAGRAM AND I THINK IT'S VERY HELPFUL. I WANT TO COMMEND YOU AND YOUR

TEAM FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TWO THINGS.

GREAT WORK STAFF. I THINK WE ARE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS.

THIS IS A TICKETLESS ISSUE IN THE SENSE THAT WE WANT TO DO ALL WE CAN FOR ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE SERENE AND ESTABLISHED. THERE IS A FABRIC THERE ARE TWO AREAS IN PARTICULAR FOR ME. YOU ARE THE AREA NORTH SHORE'S IN VILANO BEACH AND ALSO MY FORMER AREA WHERE I LIVE ALONG ATLANTIC AVENUE THAT YOU ARE SO FAMILIAR WITH.

A LOT OF CALLS AND I WANT TO THANK GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS FOR MAKING A PUBLIC STATEMENT LATE IN THE SESSION ABOUT GRAND RESERVATIONS HE HAD ABOUT THE STATE PREEMPTION OF VACATION RENTALS AND I ALSO WOULD THINK THE SENATE WERE BASICALLY AGREEING WITH HIM AND LEAVING

IT TO US. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JOSEPH?

WE WILL GO ON TO VACATION RENTALS. >> FROM REGULATING VACATION RENTALS, BUT I THINK IT LOST STEAM THIS YEAR PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING THE COP PULLED FROM THE COMMITTEE IF YOU COULD PROVIDE A QUICK SUMMARY, COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF MEMBERS ASKED REGARDING THE VACATION RENTALS ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES COMMUNITY MEETINGS INTRODUCED PUBLIC BY STAFF AREA PARTICIPANTS [INDISCERNIBLE] IN THE LAST DISCUSSION ITEM ON THIS CASE STAFF DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH TWO DRAFT ORDINANCES AND HOLDS ADDITIONAL

COMMUNITY MEETINGS. >> KIND OF A TIMELINE OF EVIDENCE HERE.

BACK IN OCTOBER 2018 A LARGE NUMBER OF ATTENDEES. THE COMMUNITY SERVICE CONCLUDED THAT THERE WERE MAYBE 120 PARTICIPANTS AND MOST PEOPLE SERVING BELIEVE WE SHOULD REGULATE VACATION RENTALS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. FEBRUARY 5 2019 WE HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ITEM IN THE MOST RECENTLY COMMUNITY WORKSHOP NUMBER TWO NUMB GENERAL

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DRAFT ONE EXCLUDES NEXT TO THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY AND EXCLUDES MULTIFAMILY WITH PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND IT EXCLUDES OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS AND SINCE THE LAST DISCUSSION OF SPEAKING WITH THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION OWNER OCCUPIED DUPLEXES IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD EXEMPT. THE REGISTRATION OWNER PROPERTY MANAGER VACATION RENTAL ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS REQUIRE A SITE PLAN A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT, CERTIFICATE OR PAYMENT OF TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAXES AND A TO ERP LICENSE. CERTIFICATE ISSUANCE THE RENEWAL ÃI'M SORRY ÃIT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE RENEWED IF THERE IS AN INCREASE IN THE GROSS FLOOR AREA OR THE NUMBER OF ROOMS OR AN OCCUPANCY INCREASE. AND A CERTIFICATE WOULD HAVE TO BE DISPLAYED OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY SHOWING THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS AND THE OWNER CONTACT INFORMATION AND A NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. SO WITH THIS PORTION, THERE IS OCCUPANCY STANDARDS AND THERE IS NO MAXIMUM THERE WOULD BE TWO PERSONS PER ROOM +2 ADDITIONAL OCCUPANTS WERE A COMMON ROOM WHICH STAFF WOULD HAVE TO DEFINE WITHIN THE ORDINANCE BACK OF THE COURT'S DIRECTION. ADDITIONAL OFFSTREET PARKING WOULD BE REQUIRED SEPARATE FROM THE LDC REQUIRE ONE PARKING SPACE PER FOUR OCCUPANTS ON STREET PARKING WOULD BE SUBJECT TO ORDINANCES WHERE YOU HAVE IN EXISTENCE.

THE SOLID WASTE WOULD ESTABLISH A 24 HOUR TIMEFRAME GARBAGE CANS WILL BE ALLOWED TO BE BROUGHT OUT AND RETURN TO THE HOME AND THE NOISE WOULD COMPLY WITH THE EXISTING LEASE ORDINANCE IS IN EFFECT NOW. VIOLATIONS AND FINES WILL BE SENT BY RESOLUTION OF THE ISSUE FOR NONCOMPLIANCE. PARKING OCCUPANCY. AND BE ENFORCED BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY INCLUDING ARTICLE 10 OF THE ADDITIONALLY INVESTING IN RENTAL AGREEMENTS EXISTING PRIOR TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE HONORED IF NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REGULATIONS. I RECEIVED A COUPLE OF EMAILS THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE BOARD PACKET. THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THIS VESTING OR HOW IT'S WRITTEN NOW OCCUPANCY AND PARKING, THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE WOULD BE BEST AND PARKING PROVIDED AND EFFECTIVELY THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS IT WOULD BE FESTIVE. THIS IS A POLICY DIVISION AND STAFF IS RECEIVED THAT STRUCTURE HAS ENHANCED PROVISIONS. THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THERE IS A LACK OF BUSY TO 16 PERSONS. MORE RESTRICTING PARKING STANDARDS AS ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS A TEMPLATE AND LEASE AGREEMENT TEMPLATE. THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE NUMBER OF TRASH CANS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS THE INITIAL INSPECTION, REINSPECTION, VIOLA OCCURS AND THERE ARE ANNUALS INSPECTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH NUMBER TWO

>> DISCUSS THIS BUT I THINK THAT CONCLUDES THE DISCUSSION ITEM AND I BELIEVE IT TO THE BOARD. SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE AS WELL.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> DRAFT TWO WAS ENHANCED FROM NUMBER ONE SO DRAFT TWO WOULD

INCLUDE REGISTRATION? AS IT IS A NUMBER ONE? >> CORRECT

>> OKAY. JUST AS AN ASIDE ALMOST BUT WHILE IT'S ON MY MIND TALKING ABOUT VACATION RENTALS, ARE YOU IN CONTACT WITH BOTH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND THE TAX COLLECTOR AS WE GO FORWARD TO COORDINATE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COLLECTING ALL OF THE APPROPRIATE REVENUES WE NEED TO WITH RESPECT TO THE TAX AND SALES TAX AND ANY OTHER TAXES THAT NEED TO BE COLLECTED UNDER OUR CURRENT STATUTE? IF I MAY DO THE CHAIR, COMMISSIONER DEAN, THE TAX COLLECTOR HAS A ROBUST SYSTEM FOR ÃI THINK THERE IS OVER 20 DIFFERENT PROVIDERS AIRBNB, ETC. THEY HAVE A SYSTEM TO IDENTIFY WHICH PROPERTIES ARE HAVING AVAILABLE MAKING THEIR PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND THEN

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>> I HAE NOTICED IN THE LAST YEAR THAT THE NUMBERS ÃI THINK WE'VE HAD A DRAMATIC INCREASE OF TAX COLLECTIONS FROM AIRBNB'S AND SHORT-TERM RENTALS FOR THE WORK THAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER KRAMER AND TAX COLLECTOR HOLLINGSWORTH HAVE DONE.

IT MAY DOUBLE OR TRIPLE IN THE LAST YEAR BUT IF WE DO TAKE THE NEXT STEP FOR REGISTRATION, THAT WOULD SEEM LIKE A REALLY EASY PATH TO AUDT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CATCHING EVERYONE AS NEEDED BECAUSE IT'S REALLY UNFAIR IF THE MAJORITY OF THE BED AND BREAKFAST UNITS ARE SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE AND IF WE HAVE SOME OTHERS THAT ARE NOT, THAT'S REALLY AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF IT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD AT THIS POINT? SEEING ON WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT

>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. WE HAVE TWO PODIUMS. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND LINEUP. PLEASE COME FORWARD. IF WE COULD JUST HAVE INDIVIDUALS LINED UP BEHIND EACH PODIUM AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE.

>> GOOD MORNING. MEL LONGO 620 21ST ST. NORTH BEACH IN SAINT AUGUSTINE.

INTERESTING LAST WEEK OR SO AGO NEW YORK MAGAZINE HAD AN ARTICLE ENTITLED THE GREAT WALL STREET HOUSING GRAB. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HOMES FELL INTO THE HANDS OF GIANT COMPANIES. AND ONE OF THE STATISTIC IT POINTS OUT OF INTEREST TO US IS THAT IF SINGLE-FAMILY RENTAL OWNERSHIP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WENT UP BY 10 PERCENT, PROPERTY VALUES WENT DOWN 4 TO 7 PERCENT. THE BLOCK WE LIVE ON AS Ã SOMEBODY HAS BOUGHT THREE QUARTERS OF A BLOCK AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE 13 HOMES ON THE BLOCK AND NINE OF THEM WILL BE RENTAL HOMES, MOSTLY SHORT-TERM.

SO IT'S CHANGING THE FLAVOR OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TREMENDOUSLY. THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE HERE, I DID A QUICK COUNT ON AIRBNB. THERE'S 85 HOMES BETWEEN PORPOISE POINTE AND PONTE VEDRE SHORES WEST. WE KNOW LONGER LIVE IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE LIVE IN A COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE NEED THESE REGULATIONS.

IF YOU GO TO 60 PEOPLE PER HOUSEHOLD WE NEED TO GET A HANDLE ON THIS AND IT'S CHANGING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND RUNNING LEED GRANT OUT OF THE ROOF.

WE COME DOWN THE HEAVY SIDE. >> IF YOU ARE READING FROM AN ARTICLE, DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF

THAT? >> I'M GOING TO DISAGREE. LET'S NOT OVER REGULATE THIS THING. I CAN SEE THIS THING BECOMING A BOONDOCKS.

I TRULY CAN.YOU CAN BECOME A SOLUTION. IN THE DENSITY THAT HE WAS JUST DESCRIBING, THAT IS A DENSE SITUATION AND THAT REQUIRES LOOKING UP.

THERE'S ALSO MANY OTHER PLACES AND SOME OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS. WE'VE GOT AN LOOKED AT IN A COMMONSENSE TERMINOLOGY. ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IF YOU HAVE AN AIRBNB SITUATION AND YOU ARE PAYING 11 PERCENT OF YOUR GROSS, 11 PERCENT, THAT'S A SIZABLE AMOUNT. ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE JUST RENTING A ROOM.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NO FURTHER TAXATION AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NO FURTHER STAFF HIRED TO PURSUE THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT PAIN. YOU WILL HAVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T PAY, BUT I CAN ALSO SEE IT BECOMING A BOONDOCKS WHERE YOU WILL HIRE MORE TAX COLLECTOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO CHASE A FEW INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE NOT ACTUALLY PAYING.

THIS REMINDS ME ÃINITIALLY REMINDS ME OF THE RIVER SITUATION.

LET'S NOT OVERREGULATED. I'M NOT GOING TO WAX THE SUBJECT ANYMORE.

LET'S NOT SPEND ANY MONEY WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

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>> MY NAME IS SCOTT STANLEY. I LIVE AT 616 21ST ST. IN GUANA BEACH.

I'M IN A MORE OF MR. LONGO'S. UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS ONCE WITHOUT THE TYPE OF HOMES THAT ARE THERE, IT'S ONE THING ÃTHE HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT Ã AND THESE ARE NOT MY NEIGHBORS THAT ARE BUILDING HOMES. THESE ARE LARGE REAL ESTTE INVESTMENT TRUSTS HERE AND REFER TO THEM AS SHOTGUN SHACKS.

THREE BEDROOMS AND TWO BATHS AND NO GARAGE. THEY ARE BUILT ONE 50 FOOT LOTS AND THEY DESTROYED 10, 20 TREES ON THE BLOCK I LIVED IN. HUNDRED OLD OAK TREES.

THE PRIMARY PURPOSE IS GOING TO BE FOR RENTAL THESE ARE NOT ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS.

THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE BENEFITING FROM THE INCOME. SO IT'S NOT LIKE NEIGHBOR GOING AFTER NEIGHBOR. I'M NOT COMPLAINING OF SOMEBODY AS A SINGLE HOME SOMEWHERE IN GUANA BEACH AND THEY RENTED SOMETIMES. I THINK THIS WILL GET A LOT WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER. THE ARTICLE THAT MR. LONGO REFERS TO GIVES GOOD EXAMPLE.

IF THESE LARGE INVESTORS GET IN THESE COMMUNITIES, IT IS DISRUPTIVE, IT'S GOING TO CAUSE MY PROPERTY VALUE TO GO DOWN IN YOURS AS WELL. ESPECIALLY WHERE THEY ARE BUILDING THE NIGHTLY RENTALS. THERE ARE NO AUTHORS AWAY TO SEPARATE BUT I THINK IT'S A BOONDOCKS. I THINK WE ARE RUINING THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS ONCE ÃIF YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VILANO BEACH AND ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH HOTELS AND MOTELS GUANA BEACH WAS NEVER MEANT THAT WAY. THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT ARE THE SAME WAY. YOU KNOW, IF THIS DOES MOVE FORWARD I LIKE NUMBER TWO. I LIKE THE IDEA OF KEEPING UP WITH THE OWNERS.

I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK WHEN YOU CALL REAL ESTATE TRUST NUMBER ONE IS A MULTIBILLION DOLLAR COMPANY AND WHO YOU ARE GOING TO TALK TO AND HOW IT WILL BE MANAGED.

SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING INTO THIS AND I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF OVERREGULATION OR A LOT OF TAXATION BUT WHEN IT IMPACTS THE COUNTY RESIDENTS AND HOW THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THEM ESPECIALLY IN OUR SMALLER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE NEAR THE BEACH.

AND EAST OF THE EMERALD COAST. >> THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT, PLEASE.

>> YES, SIR >> GOOD MORNING. I HAD FOUR POINTS TO MAKE AND I WILL JUST THROW THE FIRST ONE OUT BECAUSE IT MAY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED

>> IF YOU COULD GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS >> I'M SORRY.

MICHAEL BOURNS, 1185 SALTMARSH CIR. PONTE VEDRE BEACH.

BEEN A PROPERTY OWNER IN THIS COUNTY SINCE 1989. I HAVE FOUR POINTS TO MAKE.

IT WAS MY CONCERN THAT OUR STATE LEGISLATORS THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THEM TO PREEMPT LOCAL OFFICIALS, YOU FIVE OR ONE MISSING AND THAT OUR STATE LEGISLATURE THANKS THEY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME TODAY

EXACTLY WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT STATE LEGISLATION >> THAT BILL DID NOT PASS

>> OKAY. IT DID NOT PASS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DEAD FOREVER. I COME UP BECAUSE I AM A CONCERNED THE NEGATIVE IMPACT SHORT-TERM RENTALS HAVE. REMIND EVERYBODY OF THE HORRIFIC INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED IN CALIFORNIA ON HALLOWEEN WHEN 100 PARTYGOERS AT AN AIRBNB STARTED A FIRE FIGHT AND BEFORE IT WAS OVER FIVE WERE DEAD. IF YOU DON'T THINK IT CAN HAPPEN IN OUR COMMUNITIES, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU TAKE A STEP BACK. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES THAT RESULT IN THE PROBLEMS THAT ARISE. IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, ONE AIRBNB IS ADVERTISED EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES. I AM NOT SURE WHAT THEY HAVE IN MIND WE ARE A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. I THINK THERE'S AN ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. RECENTLY THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE PAPER ABOUT MONEY THIS IS BRINGING INTO OUR STATE. ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE'S A PREVIOUS GENTLEMAN WHO INDICATED I WOULD ASK ANYBODY HERE, THE HOUSE IS VALUED AND WHAT'S THE VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY IF THERE IS AN AIRBNB NEXT-DOOR? WHAT IF THERE ARE TWO.

WHAT IF THERE ARE FOR THOSE AROUND THE HOUSE? OUR INDIVIDUAL HOMES ARE OUR TREASURES. AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE MAJOR IMPACT ON OUR PROPERTY VALUES. IT MAY COME IN IN THE FORM OF A TAX BUT THE REST OF IT IS INVESTED IN OUR HOMES AND INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITIES ARE GOING TO LOSE.

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WE ARE DEPUTY SHERIFFS. WITH RESPECT TO THE TSUNAMI THAT SOMEBODY ELSE INDICATED IT'S NOT JUST INDIVIDUAL OWNERS IT'S MARRIOTT, WHO ARE BUYING OFFICE PROPERTY.

THIS IS A TSUNAMI THAT CAME UP ON US AND IT'S OVERTAKEN US AND WE HAVE MAJOR PROBLEMS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME >> THANK YOU, SIR. YES, SIR.

>> I AM CHARLES JOLANIE I LIVE 5530 ATLANTIC VIEW. ANASTASIA ISLAND.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS APPROXIMATELY 400 HOMES 35 OF WHICH WE HAVE USED COUNTY SOURCES AND HAVE DEDUCED BASED ON WHAT WE THINK IS CORRECT ONE OF THESE 35 IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY AN INVESTOR WHO LIVES IN THE COUNTY AND ALL THE OTHERS ARE OWNED BY INVESTORS WHO LIVE OUTSIDE THE COUNTY OR OUTSIDE THE STATE. SO WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT LITTLE OLD LADIES RUNNING OUT OF THE ROOM. UNTIL TODAY, THE COUNTY WITHIN OUR COUNTY, THIS SHORT-TERM RENTAL THING HAS JUST RUN AMOK. WE HAVE A CHANCE TO FIX THAT.

BUT UP UNTIL NOW THERE HAVE BEEN ZERO GUIDELINES FOR INVESTORS, ZERO GUIDELINES FOR THE AFFECTED HOMEOWNERS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO GUIDELINES FOR OUR GUESTS.

WE ARE A GUEST ORIENTED SOCIETY HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY SO WE KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING. NOW, THE ORDINANCE THAT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED CLOSELY FOLLOWS FLAGLER'S EXISTING ORDINANCE AND THIS ORDINANCE IN FLAGLER COUNTY HAS BEEN CHALLENGED MANY TIMES IN BOOKS IT'S WORKED THERE FOR FOUR YEARS, CONFIDENT STAFF IS DONE WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING TOGETHER IS SO CLOSE TO IT WILL BE APPROVED GOING FORWARD.

INCIDENTALLY, REPRESENTATIVE BRUNER HAD SOME EFFECT ON THE WRITING OF THAT STATUTE DOWN THERE. WE HAVE ALREADY COMMENTED ON THE EVENTS OF MARCH 2. IN TALLAHASSEE. I THINK IT'S WONDROUSLY FOLKS IN TALLAHASSEE HAVE DECIDED THAT DESPITE LARGE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT IT'S NOT WITHIN THE REALM OF A REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE TO START A NEW BUREAUCRACY TO HANDLE THE JOB THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING. THE ISSUE IS NOT PROHIBITION. THE ISSUE IS HOW DO WE LET YOU YOU ARE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND CLOSEST TO THE GUESTS IN THE RESIDENCE, HOW DO YOU PROVIDE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WILL PROTECT THE BALANCE BETWEEN THE NEEDS OF THE GUESTS AND THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS? AND WHEN WE WALK IN THE WOODS, WE ARE TOLD LEAVE ONLY FOOTPRINTS. WHAT THIS MEANS TO ME IS DON'T MESS UP EVERYBODY ELSE.

AND THIS MEANS THAT THE RIGHTS OF BUSINESS OWNERS SHOULD NOT BE TRAMPLED IN THE RIGHTS OF THESE NONRESIDENT BUSINESS OWNERS SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRAMPLE THE RIGHTS AND EXTREMITIES OF THE HOMEOWNERS. THIS IS A POSTER CHILD FOR HER ROLE AND WE ARE GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT BACK. WE BELIEVE THAT OPTION NUMBER

TWO. >> THANK YOU, SIR.EXT, PLEASE.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS PAUL SPANGLER MY ADDRESS IS 5479 4TH ST. ST.

AUGUSTINE. BUTLER BEACH AREA. MY ISSUE AND A LOT OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE BEEN HAVING HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. THE PROBLEM HAS GOTTEN COMPLETELY OUT OF HAND WITH VACATION RENTALS. ONE THING THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY MENTION IS THE IDEA [INDISCERNIBLE] YOU HAVE IT Ã YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD FULL OF KIDS AND CLOSE TO THE BEACH KIDS RIDING THEIR BIKES. THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE RENTED THESE HOMES THE OWNERS DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE, WHO'S COMING AND WHO'S GOING.

THE PROBLEM HAS GOTTEN COMPLETELY OUT OF HAND. NOISE ALL NIGHT, PARTIES, THE OWNERS ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU TRY TO GET HOLD OF SOMEBODY TO COMPLAIN THE COMMENT MADE TO ME WAS THEY ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING. SO YOU KNOW, SOMETHING NEEDS TO

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BE DONE. >> NEXT, PLEASE. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

VIVIAN BROWNING, 30 BEACH, WAY. I'M HERE AT MY OWN PERILS SYSTEM IN THE HIGH-RISK DISTRICT FOR CORONAVIRUS BUT THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA AND I'M HERE BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO THINK COUNTYWIDE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE AFFECTED, AND THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL SIDES OF AN ISSUE. AS A RETIRED COMMISSIONER, COUNTYWIDE ELECTED FOR MOSQUITO CONTROL, I HAVE TO DEAL WITH POLICY COUNTY AND EMPLOYEES. HOW DO WE SPEND IT AND HOW DO WE COLLECT IT? I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS IS A BIGGER ISSUE AND NOT JUST COMPLAINT DRIVEN. TRYING TO DEAL WITH COMPLAINTS WILL CALL YOU ALL OVER THE PLACE BECAUSE OF INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSES AND CONCERNS OF INDIVIDUALS.WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AS A BIGGER ISSUE. I HAVE READ THE 80 PAGES THAT CAME WITH THIS.

ONE IS NOT I'VE ATTENDED THE WORKSHOPS. TO ME, I THINK ÃAND I'VE ASKED JOSEPH. THERE'S ABOUT 200 PEOPLE OFF AND ON YOU HAVE ATTENDED YOU HAVE WRITTEN ON THIS PROJECT. 'M ALSO BEING TOLD THEY ARE SAYING 2500 TAXPAYING PROPERTY ONLY MOSTLY COMPLIANT I SAY 95 PERCENT. THAT'S A VERY FRACTION.

BUT MOST OF US AND I AM A 35 YEAR I'VE DONE LONG-TERM RENTALS AND I AM A STUDENT FROM THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF BELIEVE. I THINK WE NEED TO NOTIFY. HAVE WE NOTIFIED ALL OF THESE 2500 3000 PEOPLE THAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE ABOUT TO BE LIMITED AND THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED DIRECT NOTICE SO BEFORE ANY DECISIONS ARE MADE YOU NEED TO DO THAT.

VACATION RENTAL TREND AND PEOPLE WHO STAY THERE ARE THERE BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE ENVIRONMENT. ONE THING IS THE MECHANISM, COMMISSIONER DEAN MENTIONED ABOUT COLLECTING TAXES I AGREED TO PAY ALL THE TAXES BUT NOW WITH DIGIT OR THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT. FIVE YEARS AGO, I SAID WHEN WE HAVE THIS MEETING, WHAT ABOUT THE LONG-TERM OWNERS WHO PARTIED, THE HOMEOWNERS, AND THE LONG-TERM RENTALS.

THERE IS A THING IN HERE THAT SAID THERE WAS ONLY 23 NOISE COMPLAINTS A YEAR OF TWO PARKING COMPLAINTS THAT IS TO CODE ENFORCEMENT IN THE DOCUMEN AND THAT'S FOR ALL CATEGORIES. SO WE NEED TO PUT THIS COMPLAINT INTO PRODUCTIVE AND I FEEL LIKE ESPECIALLY WITH ALL REAL ESTATE BEING CHALLENGED BECAUSE OF THE CORONAVIRUS, THIS NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH ON A LONGER-TERM BASIS AND NOT MAKING ANY FAST DECISIONS AND TO NOTIFY ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS THEIR RIGHTS AND REGULATIONS WILL BE CHANGED

BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION. >> ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS

TIME ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. >> MY NAME IS MAUREEN DUFFY AND I LIVE IN THE SHORES 179 SHORES BLVD. I'M LISTENING TO ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT CONCERNS AND I AM NOT LITTLE OLD LADY THAT IS RENTING ONE ROOM. THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY FOR EVERYONE ALL OF THE TIME. NOT JUST THE BMB OWNERS. I SEE TRASH AND JUNK CARS AND JUST JUMP EVERYWHERE. THEY AREN'T BMB OWNERS. MY PROPERTY IS IMMACULATE.

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KEEP THEIR PROPERTY IMMACULATE. AND DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY NOT ÃBY NONRESIDENT CORPORATE ATTACKS ON COMMUNITIES. LET'S RESPECT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE HOMEOWNERS THAT DO KEEP THEIR PROPERTY UP. AND IF WE DO HAVE ONE LITTLE OLD LADY, LET'S NOT PUT HER OUT OF BUSINESS BECAUSE OF CORPORATION COMES IN. PLEASE LET'S LOOK AT ALL OF THE

RAMIFICATIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE >> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO PADDITIONAL ADJUSTMENT THE CLER OF THE COURT TO TAKE NOTE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS PRESENT NOW. HE IS HERE. WELCOME.

AND LIKEWISE WE MOVE INTO DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD STANDPOINT ON THIS ITEM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO NUMBER LET'S Ã IF YOU DON'T MIND LET'S SEPARATE THE TO AND DEAL WITH THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS NOTIFICATION DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FIRST OF ALL AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS THEM ONE AT A TIME AND OFFER DIRECTION TO STAFF BECAUSE THIS IS A

PRESENTATION. COMMISSIONER WALDRON? >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SMITH. AS FAR AS THE NOTIFICATIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US LOOKING TO EXTENDING IT TO 500 FEET. AS FAR AS WHEN WE GET TO THE RURAL SILVERCULTURE CALLED TO SEE TO A THOUSAND FEET BUT ALSO TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE HOW I SEE

IT? >> THIS WOULD BE >> I ASKED FOR GUIDANCE

>> A LOT OF THE ISSUES IS BECAUSE THIS IS A JURISDICTIONAL ISSUE.

IF WE HAVE SOMEONE CLAIMS THAT THEY ARE OR ARE NOT THE 20TH CLOSEST PROPERTY KIND OF LIKE A MORE OBJECTIVE STANDARD IN WHICH ONE IS THE CLOSEST SO IT'S A THOUSAND FEET OR IF YOU DON'T MAKE IT TO A THOUSAND FEET THE NEXT ADJACENT IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE THAN A JUDGMENT CALL ABOUT WHICH ONES ARE THE 20 CLOSEST BECAUSE YOU HAVE ODD SHAPED

PROPERTIES. >> OKAY. SO MAYBE JUST STICK WITH A THOUSAND FEET. MY CONCERN IS ÃI'M NOT PICKING ON ANYONE.

YOU PROBABLY CONTACTED RAINIER THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT MOSQUITO CONTROL.

THE PROBABLY THE CHEST OF EVERYBODY THAT GOT NOTIFICATION.

ALTHOUGH THERE YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT WAS A MINOR CHANGE AND I'M NOT PICKING ON THAT PARTICULAR THING BUT THAT'S WHO GOT NOTIFIED AND THESE PEOPLE WERE DONATING LAND, WE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT, I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING AROUND THEM BECAUSE YOU ARE DOWN THE ROAD AND YOU WILL NOTICE SOMETHING'S COMING.

ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHWEST PART OF THE COUNTY WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE STANDARDS WE

HAVE IN THE NORTHWEST PART OF THE COUNTY. >> WE CAN LOOK AT A MODIFICATION FOR THE 20 CLOSEST INSTEAD OF THE END OF WE CAN DO SOMETHING SIMILAR.

WE WILL TRY TO WORK A PROVISION >> AND THE REST OF THE BOARD MA

>> CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? THAT WAS MORE CONFUSING THAN THE FIRST.

>> ESSENTIALLY, IF THE SAME OWNER OWNS THE SUBJECT PARCEL AND ALSO THE SURROUNDING, SO JUST RAINIER AND THEY HAVE A CONTRACT PURCHASE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SO THEY ARE TECHNICALLY SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SMALLER YOU ARE NOTICING THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER SO YOU HAVE A PROVISION IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WHERE IT GOES TO THE NEXT IMMEDIATE NONOWNER PROPERTY OWNER AND JUST JUMPS PTHAT WAY. SO INSTEAD OF THE PROPERTY

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WE HAVE A RULE THAT IF THAT OCCURS THAT YOU GO TO THE NEXT ÃTHE NON-SAME PROPERTY OWNER

PERSON. >> I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS A MISUNDERSTANDING BUT I'VE GOT IT NOW.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? >> THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

LIKE TO SEE US GO TO A 500 FOOT NOTIFICATION I LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE RULE WORKS OF A CULTURE WOULD BE A THOUSAND FEET AND ALL ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT CAN BE STRUCTURED. IN THAT WAY IT ACCOMMODATES THAT.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS, HOW THEY'VE ADDRESSED THIS, 500 FEET IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER COUNTIES. SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD COMPROMISE.

>> THAT'S FINE. I HAVE SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WE MAINTAIN AND ADVERSELY AFFECTED PERSONS WITHIN 300 FEET AND NOT THE 500 FEET AND I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE APPEAL SIDE EFFECT PERSONALLY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE REST OF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO OR NOT BUT WHEN IT COMES TO EXPANSION NOTIFICATION TO 1000 FEET, SPECIFICALLY IN THE NOTES I SAW AGRICULTURE, RURAL SILVERCULTURE IS THAT THOSE ARE THREE AREAS. MY QUESTION IS IF WE WENT SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE DESIGNATIONS AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HEAR, THIS MORNING, THE CONSERVATION ÃWE HAVE SOME OF THOSE THAT ARE TUCKED IN PRETTY TIGHT AREAS.

SO WE COULD ACTUALLY ÃWOULD IT BE RECOMMENDED DO YOU THINK CONSERVATION WOULD BE A GOOD

ONE TO HAVE? >> IT'S UP TO THE BOARD BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT AREAS. OBVIOUSLY RURAL SILVERCULTURE AND AGRICULTURE INTENSIVE, IT'S AN AREA WHERE THE COUNTY HAS SAID NO LARGE-SCALE DEVELOPMENT AND SOMETIMES CONSERVATION KIND OF FALLS INTO THAT SAME TYPE OF CATEGORY. IT IS SET AT THE SAME RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ONE UNIT PER 100 ACRES AND HAS SEVERELY LIMITED DEVELOPMENT, I GUESS, POTENTIAL. SO ACCORDING TO THAT, IT'S UP TO THE BOARD OF WHETHER OR NOT TO DETERMINE WHETHER CONSERVATION FITS MORE TO THOSE NONDEVELOPMENT TIGHTLY REDUCES OR IF I'S TUCKED IN INSIDE MAINLY A DEVELOPMENT TYPE AREA THAT IT SHOULD JUST MEET THE

STANDARD 500. >> OKAY. IF WE CAN HAVE A DIAGRAM OF THAT, I THINK THERE WERE SOME THAT WOULD GO TO THE 500. THERE IS A COUPLE THERE I THINK THAT WOULD MEET THAT QUALIFICATION. I WANT TO JUST SAY THIS.

MY CONCERN WAS INITIALLY WAS COST. AND COST TO A PROPERTY OWNER IN REGARD TO NOTIFICATION. THE MATERIAL THAT YOU PROVIDED WAS VERY HELPFUL.

IT WAS NOT AN ONEROUS ÃTHAT'S SUBJECTIVE ÃBUT IT IS ADDITIONAL COS BUT NOT TREMENDOUSLY ONEROUS. IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS REASONABLE, I WOULD SAY.

HOWEVER, IT DOES PUT MORE BURDEN ON OUR OWN STAFF TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE WITH THE SENDING OUT OF THE MAILINGS. I JUST WANT TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THAT, THAT THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL DEMAND ON OUR STAFF TO PUT THESE FORWARD IF THIS GOES FORWARD.

IT WAS A BIG CONCERN OF MINE. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I HAVE A REQUEST AND THIS IS THE ONLY TIME I CAN TALK AND I WANT TO ASK THIS QUESTION OUT. WE OBVIOUSLY WANT IT TO BE EFFECTIVE AS LIGHT ON BURDEN AS POSSIBLE BOTH FOR THE USER AS WELL AS FOR ENFORCEMENT.

USE THE DIFFERENCE AND DISTANCE BASED ON ÃI HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL FOR APPEAL.

PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, IF WE ARE LOOKING AT A VERY DENSE AREA, MORE PEOPLE WILL BE NOTIFIED.

IN A LESS DENSE AREA FEWER PEOPLE WILL BE NOTIFIED. IF WE LOOK AT A PIECE OF

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SO ARE WE LOOKING AT PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THE CHANGE AND MEET THE NOTIFICATION REGARDLESS OF DISTANCE? IN THE CHANGE ITSELF? OR IS IT TRULY A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO NOTIFIED TO GET THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA OR OTHERWISE WORD-OF-MOUTH TO OTHERS BECAUSE ONE PERSON TELLS ANOTHER IF THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE IMPACTFUL TO THEM. SO ARE WE LOOKING AT THE IMPACT ON THE PERSON OR STRICTLY A DISTANCE AND THEN HOPING ORGANICALLY IT WILL GROW TO OTHER PEOPLE THAT CAN BE AFFECTED? FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE REQUESTING IT ONLY BE AT 300 AND THE POTENTIAL FOR APPEAL I UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT IS THERE ANOTHER WAY TO WORD THIS? I'M NOT TRYING TO START FROM SCRATCH. I WANT TO KEEP IT DOUBLE BUT BE

EFFECTIVE AT THE SAME TIME. >> SURE. I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF IS ANY

RECOMMENDATION IN LIGHT OF THAT OR NOT. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS, THE MAILED NOTICE REQUIREMENT AS PART OF THE REQUIREMENT. IT'S NOT A COURTESY NOTICE.

THIS IS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WITHIN THE DESCRIBED DISTANCE RECEIVES THAT MAIL OUT NOTICE AND IF WE DON'T, AND IF WE FAIL TOO MANY TIMES WE DON'T ACT IN GOOD FAITH THE BOARD OR THE AGENCY LOSES THE ABILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT ITEM.

THERE'S AN INSUFFICIENT LACK OF NOTICE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO HEAR THAT ITEM.

SO THAT'S MY WE DO THE ABSOLUTE RADIUS AND TIE IT INTO THE GIS SYSTEM AND TAG A PROPERTY APPRAISER INFORMATION FOR WHO THOSE MAIL OUTS ARE SUPPOSED TO GO TO.

SO THAT IS ÃTHAT'S THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF THE MAILED NOTICES.

IT'S NOT COURTESY, IT'S LEGAL REQUIREMENT. >> UNDERSTAND THE LEGAL MANDATE. WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE IT FITS THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH WE ARE HAVING THE DISCUSSION, TO NOTIFY PEOPLE WHO CAN BE AFFECTED WITHIN OR OUTSIDE OF THAT PHYSICAL DISTANCE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE WHO ARE AFFECTED BY IT Ã AND MAYBE I'M LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT'S TOO MUCH INTO THE DETAILS, IF YOU ARE ON A STREET IN YOUR MILES AWAY, BUT THERE'S NO OTHER SIDESTREETS AND NO OTHER WAY TO LEAVE, WHATEVER IS GENERATED BY THIS PROPERTY THAT'S GENERATED THIS MANDATED NOTICE TO PEOPLE 300, 500 FEET AWAY, IT WILL STILL AFFECT PEOPLE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO TRAVEL. >> AND UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE I SAID TO COMMISSIONER WALDRON, THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IS TO HAVE AN ABSOLUTE OBJECTIVE SET INSTEAD OF HAVING TO MAKE THAT CALL THAT YOU LIVE A MILE DOWN THE STREET, YOU ARE STILL AFFECTED BY THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE IT'S AN UNBROKEN LINK. BUT WHO MAKES THE DETERMINATION THAT YOU SHOULD RECEIVE NOTICE? AND IF YOU FAIL TO RECEIVE NOTICE, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE APPLICANT DOESN'T GET TO HAVE THE HEARING BECAUSE SOMEONE AT STAFF MADE A DETERMINATION THAT YOU ARE A MILE DOWN AND YOU ARE NOT WITHIN 500 FEET RADIUS. AND THEREFORE THE PROPERTY DOESN'T RECEIVE NOTICE. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE STRUGGLE THAT WE HAVE DEALING WITH THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT OF NOTICE VERSUS THE COURTESY WHO'S MAKING THE ARGUMENT THAT THERE IS A CHAIN OF REACTION OR A CHAIN OF TRAFFIC THAT COULD AFFECT THE PROPERTY ON THE

ROAD. >> SO IS IT LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE TO PUT A DISTANCE? A LINK OF ROADWAY? I THINK IT WOULD BE COMPLICATED AND IT WOULD PROVIDE MORE OF AN ISSUE IN TERMS OF DOES THE BOARD HAVE JURISDICTION TO HEAR THE ITEM.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE SHOWING UP IN COMPLAINING THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE ADEQUATE NOTICE IF THEY ARE OUTSIDE THE 300, 500,000 FOR DISTANCE. EVEN IF THEY ARE DOWN THE STREET AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH LEGAL ANALYSIS POTENTIALLY TO THE BOARD TO

MAKE IT INTO A JUDGE TO DETERMINE >> TO NOTIFY EVERYONE THAT THIS ORDINANCE SAYS IT SHOULD BE NOTIFIED TO HEAR. IT'S BETTER TO DO ÃI AM

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>> I'D LIKE TO ADD ADDITIONALLY, IT'S NOT THE ONLY FORM OF REACHING OUT TO AFFECTED PARTIES AS A COURTESY STAFF ALSO PUTS OUT THERE UP SIGNS FOR THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT

>> WE HAVE THREE FORMS OF NOTICE SO THERE'S A LEGAL ADVERTISEMENT THAT GOES INTO THE ST. AUGUSTINE RECORD. THERE ARE POSTINGS. THOSE ORANGE SIGNS THAT YOU SEE IN EACH ROW THAT TOUCHES THE PROPERTY. WE DO AND BE OURS AS WELL IS

THE MAALOX. >> WE SENT OUT EMAILS TO SEVERAL GROUPS.

THERE'S ALSO COMMUNITY MEETINGS PART OF THE NORTHWEST SECTOR. WE TRY AND PRETTY MUCH MEET THE

NEEDS OF BEING A PARENT. >> IT CAN IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD.

HAVE THEY NOTICED AN EASIER PROCESS IS DONE THROUGH AN EMAIL PROVISION AND ITS SET IF YOU ARE A REGISTERED MERGER REGISTER YOUR EMAILS. IT'S A FORCED INTERACTION WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE DEVELOPER TO HAVE THAT TYPE MEETING. BUT THE BOARD OR THE AGENCY NEVER LOSES JURISDICTION TO HEAR THE ITEM. WHAT IT DOES IS IT MAKES SURE

PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF FINALIZE ITEMS. >> FROM MY PERSPECTIVE THAT'S THE CORE OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. PEOPLE COULD BE IMPACTED IN SOME FORMAT THAT'S EFFECTIVE WHETHER IT'S 300 OR 500 FEET I UNDERSTAND THIS LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE AND OBJECTIVE. IF IT'S NOT EFFECTIVE IN THE PURPOSE FOR HAVING THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM IN THE FIRST PLACE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PEOPLE, WHICH OF THE BOX BUT WE ARE NOT ACHIEVING OUR GOALS AND OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

SO IF THIS INCLUDES MBR NOTICES AND SOME FORMAT, THAT IS OBJECTIVE AND EFFECTIVE, THAT'S

WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THE NDR IS A VOLUNTARY SYSTEM FOR WHICH YOU SIGN UP SO IT MAY NOT TOUCH SOMEBODY THAT EITHER DOESN'T HAVE THE ACCESS TO THAT OR HAS NOT SIGNED UP SO THAT'S WHEN THE EFFECTIVENESS BECOMES DIMINISHED. EACH OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE A MAILING ADDRESS AND IS IDENTIFIED BY PROPERTY APPRAISER AND TAX COLLECTOR AND THEY WILL RECEIVE THAT MAILING.

SO THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THAT SHOULD BE ENHANCED. >> YOUR THOUGHTS AGAIN.

I APPRECIATE THE ANALYSIS. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REQUIRED LEGALLY REQUIRED NOTIFICATION AND THEN WHEN IT'S AN OPTIONAL SUPPLEMENTAL NOTIFICATION.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR THE CHAIRMAN KIND OF EMPHASIZE THAT AS WELL.

JUST TO ECHO OFF COMMISSIONER WALDRON'S EARLIER COMMENTS. IF IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, IF YOU WOULD ALLOW IT, THAT WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE 500 FOOT ÃWITH THE THOUSAND FOOT PORT SILVICULTURE RULE CONSERVATION TO LOOK AT THE NOTIFICATION WHICH IS OPTIONAL

NOT REQUIRED BY LAW TOTALLY VOLUNTARY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE AGRICULTURAL INTENSIVE AS WELL. REVERSIBLE CULTURE AND CONSERVATION.

THOSE OF THE THREE THAT THIS BOARD WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH 500 FEET

>> I WILL SECOND.>> IS THERE A CONSENSUS FOR THAT? >> IS EVERYBODY ALL RIGHT WITH 500 FEET? TWO EXPANSION? IS EVERYBODY ALL RIGHT WITH THE

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AND THE NVR EXPANSION. >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY MAKE CLEAR TO THE LISTENING PUBLIC, THIS IS THE DIRECTION TO THE STAFF TO BRING THESE BACK AS A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGE, SO IN OTHER WORDS, THESE ARE NOT EFFECTIVE AT THE MOMENT, BUT THESE WILL BE BROUGHT BACK FOR THE STAFF AND FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND DECISION OF THE BOARD.

THANK YOU. >> ABSOLUTELY. LET'S MOVE ALONG ÃDO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE? LET'S MOVE INTO SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND ANY DISCUSSION BY THE WORD? ANY PREFERENCE? COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> MR. DEAN: LET ME PREFACE THIS BY SAYING THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ONCE SAID THAT WITH CIVIL RIGHTS, ONE'S FIST ENDS WHERE ANOTHER MAN'S NOSE BEGINS.

IT SORT OF APPLIES TO PROPERTY RIGHTS TOO BECAUSE WE CAN'T VERY ARTICULATE TESTIMONY ON THE ONE HAND, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM MEL RAISING ISSUES ABOUT THE IMPACT OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND ON THE OTHER HAND FROM MY GOOD FRIEND VIVIAN BROWNING WHO TELLS US WE MUST ALSO RECOGNIZE THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THOSE HOMEOWNERS WHO WISH TO ENTER THE VACATION RENTAL FIELD.

AND SO IT'S REALLY A BALANCING ACT, AND I THINK THE GENTLEMAN FROM ATLANTIC VIEWS SPOKE VERY CLEARLY AND ARTICULATELY TO THE BALANCING AND THAT'S MY GOAL IS TO BALANCE THIS ISSUE, AND I THINK MOVING FORWARD WITH OPTION TO NUMB TO THE NEXT STAGE DOES THAT AND I WILL BE PREPARED AFTER, IF NEED BE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM TO NUMB FOLLOWING OTHER COMMENTS

FROM THE COMMISSIONERS. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS TO THE PUBLIC WHO CAME TODAY. OUR CHALLENGE DIMMICK CHALLENGE IS BALANCING THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF FAMILIES. SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND VACATION RENTALS WILL HAVE ON THE CHARACTER OF THEIR COMMUNITY. THAT'S A VERY VALID CONCERN WHEN WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF AS A BOARD. I THINK THE BALANCE IF THAT IS THE EQUALLY VALID CONCERNS OF SMALL FAMILIES, RETIREES THAT ARE USING THEIR ONE BEDROOM OR TWO BEDROOM HOME, RENTING OUT A BEDROOM TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR INCOME AND TO HELP THEM IN RETIREMENT.HAT'S A TOUGH BALANCE, AND IT'S ONE THAT AFFECTS EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY. ALSO AS WAS BROUGHT UP WITH CONCERNS OF FAMILIES, I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS CHILDREN PLAYING IN THEIR BACKYARD AND THEN HAVE A SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTAL AND FRATERNITY PARTY FROM ONE OF OUR UNIVERSITIES WOULD WANT THAT IS APPARENT.

I THINK THERE'S A BALANCE TO THE SPIRIT I THINK STAFF IS DONE A GREAT JOB OUTLINING OPTIONS. WE CAN PUT RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE TO BRING ORDER FOR THE SAME TIME PROTECT PEOPLE'S OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST AND IF YOU ARE A RETIREE WE HAD ONE LADY ADDRESSES TODAY. SHE IS USING ONE ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY.

TODAY THERE'S A BALANCE HERE AND I THINK THAT STUFF IS DONE A GOOD OPTIONS FOR THAT.

I THINK OPTION TWO NUMB PROVIDES US WITH SOME THINGS WE CAN WORK WITH HERE.

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND I WANT TO DO CLARITY ON IT. NUMBER ONE, THE COMMON ROOM WOULD HAVE TO BE DEFINED. IF YOU HAVE A THREE BEDROOM TWO BATH HOME WHICH I THINK WAS MENTIONED A WHILE AGO I THINK THAT HAS ÃHELP YOU FROM WRONG, BUT I'M GOING BACK ON

RECOLLECTION. THAT WOULD BE TOO PARUMP >> THE COMMON AREA SO THE NON-SLEEPING ROOM WHICH IS DEFINED BY THE BUILDING CODE WHICH INTEND TO DO AND IT MATCHES ALL THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAS THOSE TWO UNITS AND THE +2 IS FOR ALL OF THE COMMON AREA. THAT IS WHAT THE CLARIFICATION IS FOR.

IT'S NOT PER COMMON AREAS SUCH AS YOU GET TWO FOR THE BATHROOM TWO FOR THE LIVING ROOM.

>> I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT MEASURE WAS DEFINITIVE. THE OTHER THING IS THIS.

>> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL IS NOT IN THE PURVIEW OF

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>> WHEN YOU MEAN DENSITY DO YOU MEAN THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE OR THE MAXIMUM

OCCUPANCY Ã >> NO SIR, THERE ARE A LOT MORE HOMES ON THE PROPERTY THAN THERE WAS BEFORE, BUT THAT WAS A RESULT OF AN OLD PLAT THAT HAD AN ENTITLEMENT?

>> YES. NORTH BEACH SUBDIVISION HAD 50 FOOT LOTS AND THERE WAS PRIVATE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE REQUIRED DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME THAT EACH HOME WE PUT ON TWO LOTS AND YOU ESSENTIALLY HAVE 100 FOOT LOT CONSISTING OF TWO PLATTED LOTS.

SOME OF THOSE RESTRICTIONS HAVE EXPIRED DUE TO MORE DOCTORS AND OTHERS ARE STILL VALID.

SO IT'S KIND OF A PRIVATE ISSUE THAT THE COUNTY CANNOT ENFORCE PRIVATE RESTRICTIONS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WITH A MUCH NARROW SCOPE OF THIS BEING EAST OF THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY THAT MAKES IT MORE COMFORTABLE ON NOT DESIROUS TO PUT MORE REGULATIONS OUT THERE THAT NEED ENFORCEMENT AND ALSO ADDITIONAL COSTS, BUT THERE IS A BALANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD HERE AND WITH THAT NARROW SCOPE IS MOSTLY WHERE OUR COMPLAINTS ARE COMING FROM AS WELL. TO ME I DIDN'T HAVE A PREFERENCE WHICH WOULD BE OPTION 1. BUT THE BOARD IF IT DESIRES TO GO WITH OPTION TWO I CAN SEE THAT.

THAT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED. COMMISSIONER WALDRON? >> A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS I ASKED WAS I KNOW FLAGLER COUNTY DID THE SEPTIC TANKS. I HAVE CONCERN ON THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE INTRUSIVE. I THINK THE OCCUPANCY LEVELS KEEP THAT DOWN VIA COMPLIANCE.

ONE OF THE OTHER CONCERNS I HAD IS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, YOU KNOW, HOW TO GET THE YOUNG LADY WHO WAS RENTING A ROOM. THAT'S HER HOME.

IF YOU ARE ONLY HERE SIX MONTHS, THAT MEANS THE OTHER SIX MONTHS OR YEAR TO YOUR LIVING HERE ARE AVAILABLE HEAR THEIR'S ROCK AS YOU TELL THEM TO BE QUIET AND THEY ARE GONE FOR SIX MONTHS. THAT SIX MONTHS IS A FREE FOR ALL RIGHT BACK TO THE ISSUE WE HAVE WITH FULL-TIME SHORT-TERM RENTALS. SO HAVE A CONCERN THERE WITH THAT AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT THE VERBIAGE ON THAT. THE ÃI KIND OF LIKE THAT WE MAY BE DECIDING ON A HYBRID BECAUSE THERE'S GOOD THINGS IN EACH ONE. DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A BIG COST. WE ARE ON THE DOORSTEP OF THE RECESSION.

NO MATTER HOW YOU TO LOOK AT IT WE ARE HAVING TO PUT STAFF ON HAND TO MAYBE GO LOOK AT ONE A YEAR INSTEAD OF ADDITIONS. AND THEN THE PART ABOUT THE INSPECTIONS AND THEN BEING Ã ONE THING INVESTING I CAN SEE FOR A RENTAL DID YOU HAVE ASSIGNED? NOT FOR FULL-TIME ÃIF YOUR EXISTING YOU NEED TO COME TO COMPLIANCE.

NORTH BEACH IS GOTTEN THE CHANGE IN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, ATLANTIC VIEW HAS BECOME THIS REALLY TIGHT ROAD IT'S AN OLD SUBDIVISION. AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS MAKE SURE WE INCORPORATE THIS ENTIRE COUNTY SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE WE CAN ADDRESS IT BECAUSE IT'S COMING. WE HAVE ENTIRE SUBDIVISIONS BEING BUILT AND THEY WILL BE LONG-TERM RENTALS BUT WHAT'S TO SAY THEY CAN'T BE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL? SO I KINDA WANT TO NOT BE SUPER INTRUSIVE BUT MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE EVERYBODY'S HELD TO THE SAME STANDARDS. AND THAT THE PEOPLE LIVING

THERE HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT THEY EXPECT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. >> JUST ONE MORE BRIEF FOLLOW-UP JUST TO OUR LEGAL STAFF I WANT SOME CLARIFICATION ON THIS.

I BELIEVE THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS TO SHORT-TERM AND VACATION RENTALS THAT CAN BE

IMPLEMENTED BY A JOE WEIS, CORRECT? >> THE ONLY RESTRICTION IS ON THE COUNTY ACTING.F YOU HAVE AN HOA AND RESTRICT SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTALS THE STATUTE

DOES NOT COVER THAT >> THAT'S ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE HAVE THIS

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>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> I ALSO WANT TO THINK STAFF FOR WEAVING THROUGH A COMPLICATED PROCESS. I AM QUITE VISUAL, AND THIS IS ONLY FOR COUNTY JURISDICTIONS.

IT'S NOT FOR THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE OR ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH FOR A JOE WEIS.

AT A FUTURE MEETING OR WORKSHOP WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO PUT TOGETHER A MAP OF THE AREA THIS WOULD IMPACT? I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND VISUALLY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE HER ENCOURAGE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHICH I KNOW HAVE BEEN PARTICIPANTS IN THE PAST TO WEIGH IN ON THE ENFORCEABILITY. IT'S ONE THING TO MAKE IT LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE AND IT'S ANOTHER TO MAKE IT PRACTICALLY ENFORCEABLE AFTER HOURS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, PEOPLE CALL THE NONEMERGENCY NUMBER AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DURING BUSINESS HOURS THEY CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT. I JUST WANT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A CONCERN TO KNOW WHERE TO GO, WHO TO CALL WHO DON'T WANT TO CALL 9-1-1 FOR A NOISE COMPLAINT.

WE WANT THEM TO KNOW HOW TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE AND WAS REASONABLY EXPECTED.

SHE IS MORE COMPLICATED BUT SIMILAR TO YOUR DEBRIDEMENT PEOPLE PUT IT OUT AND IT'S NOT COMPLIANT. OUR WASTE MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT DOES A FANTASTIC JOB OF EXPLAINING TO PEOPLE WHAT LIMITATIONS ARE AND THE REASONS FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE PICKING UP OVERRATED DEBRIS. OR OVERSIZE DEBRIS AND WHAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT IS NECESSARY.

WHEN PEOPLE HEAR THAT THEY GO I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT. THANK YOU AND I WILL DO THAT IN THE FUTURE. AND IT'S BEEN A CONSISTENTLY GOOD INTERACTION.

I WANT THE SAME INTERACTION TO BE PART OF THIS PROGRAM HAS ITS COMING INTO ITS FINAL PHASES FOR COMMUNICATION OF THE COMMUNITY. OUR COMMUNITY IS MORE THAN WILLING TO COMPLY I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE AND HOW TO DO SO.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> FIRST COMMENT ABOUT 99 PERCENT OF THE COMPLAINTS, COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS I'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC ARE GENERATED FROM HOMEOWNERS IN THE NORTH SHORE IS THE ATLANTIC VIEW ROAD AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS THE HOMEOWNER I HAVE A GOOD FRIEND UNDER FULL DISCLOSURE, HE IS A ÃMOVED UP HERE ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO FROM BROWARD AND NOW HE TOLD ME NOT WHERE HE LIVES IT'S ONE BLOCK OFF OF ATLANTIC VIEW.

HE IS NOW SURROUNDED ON EACH SIDE OF HIS HOME FOR BOTH SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND THE HOME IN FRONT OF HIM IS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND THE HOME IN BACK OF HIM JUST WENT SHORT-TERM RENTAL. HE LITERALLY IS IN A ÃSORT OF A ÃI DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL IT, AND ENCLAVE SO ALL OF THE THINGS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, I AM TOTALLY IN AGREEMENT. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE HAVE TO HAVE REASONABLE REGULATIONS THAT CAN BE UNDERSTOOD, DON'T COST A LOT TO PROCESS, TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY RIGHTS.

OF THOSE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS OR THE FABRIC OF THEIR COMMUNITY. I AM WATCHING IT BE DESTROYED.

SO I AM WITH YOU ON LESS REGULATION, BUT AT A POINT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME REGULATIONS

TO PROTECT THE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS >> AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED THAT. I THINK THE NARROW SCOPE OF THIS IS VERY HELPFUL.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I AM CLEAR BECAUSE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WAS BROUGHT UP.

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DEPARTMENT >> ARE NOISE ORDINANCES IN PLACE IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WOULD BE CALLED OUT. THIS WOULD BE ZONE ENFORCEMENT AND THAT'S THE LANGUAGE IN THE

ORDINANCE? >> YES. AS A FAILURE TO REGISTER.

>> THANK YOU >> I AM PREPARED TO MOVE AN ITEM IF WE ARE READY.

I WILL MOVE VACATION RENTALS >> QUICK? IT INCLUDES AN ANNUAL INSPECTION AND INCLUDES EXISTING VACATION RENTALS IS THAT THE BOARD'S DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLACES

THEY ARE WRITTEN. >> I KNOW COMMISSIONER DEAN IS ADAMANT ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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BISHOP? GOOD MORNING, MS. BISHOP. >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS AND CHAIR.S. MAY COULD NOT BE WITH US THIS MORNING SO I AM TERESA BISHOP, THE PLANNING DIVISION MANAGER WITH THE BROKER MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT. THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 IT IS A CONFERENCE OF PLAN AMENDMENT FOR ST. MARK'S CAMPGROUND, AND IT IS A TRANSMITTAL APPLICATION. THIS PROPERTY IS GOING FROM POOR SILVICULTURAL TO RURAL COMMERCIAL. IT IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE WEST OF U.S. HIGHWAY 1 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF INTERNATIONAL GULF PARKWAY. THIS IS AN AREA OF THE PROPERTY. IT IS A REQUEST TO REDESIGNATE, AS I INDICATED, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THERE IS A COMPANION APPLICATION THAT IS SUBMITTED AND REVIEWED TO RESUME THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM PRD TO COMMERCIAL RURAL AND REMAINDER OF THE ST. MARK'S POND PLANT RURAL DEVELOPMENT TO OPEN RURAL.

THE PROPOSAL IS TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP A 74.1 ACRE PROPERTY AS AN RV RESORT AND CAMPGROUND WITH ASSOCIATED CAMPGROUND AMENITIES, COMMERCIAL COMPONENT TO INCLUDE 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS PART OF THE ST. MARK'S POND PRD AS WE HAVE INDICATED.

STAFF ÃTHE SITE COMPRISES OF 46 ACRE POND THAT THEY BROKE IT ON THE SITE SURROUNDED BY 16.6 ACRES OF UPLAND 11.7 ACRES OF WETLANDS. THE REMAINDER OF ST. MARK'S PRD WILL STAY ALICE WEHRLE SILVERCULTURE. THE MAJORITY OF THE REMAINING PLAN WORLD DEVELOPMENT PRD IS WITHIN THE ST. MARK'S POND MITIGATION BANK.

THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. YOU CAN SEE THE RURAL SILVERCULTURE DESIGNATION. THIS IS THE EXHIBIT A THAT IF YOU CHOOSE TO ADOPT THIS IN THE FUTURE, THIS WILL BE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. RURAL COMMERCIAL.

AND THEN THIS IS A ZONING MAP CURRENTLY IS PRD. THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION. AND THEN THIS IS JUST THE LIMITS OF THE ST. MARK'S POND PRD. OLYMPUS IS A PROPOSED ÃFOR THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WITH RESPECT TO OUR REVIEW, IT'S A PROPOSED NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS EXEMPT THERE IS A NONBINDING STAFF ANALYSIS BASED ON THE INTENDED PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT. MAXIMUM POTENTIAL IMPACT AND THE MAXIMUM POTENTIAL IMPACT DOES INCLUDE AN RV RESORT, 10,000 SQUARE-FOOT QUALITY TYPE RESTAURANT.

IT'S ESTIMATED [INDISCERNIBLE] IN THE MAXIMUM POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS LIMITED BASED ON

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AND THEN ST. MARK'S POND BOULEVARD 2681. WE HAD ADEQUATE CAPACITY, SITE ACCESS WILL BE ASSESSED AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW.

AND THEN BASED ON THE INTENDED PLAN TO DEVELOPMENT THE PROJECT IS ESTIMATED TO GENERATE LESS THAN 300 PEAK POWER: OUR TRIPS. THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS EXPRESSED FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A GROUP CAMPFIRE AREA AMENITY GIVEN THE SITE'S PROXIMITY TO 12 MILES LONG, STAFF HAS REQUESTED THIS INFORMATION BE SUBMITTED IN THAT THEY SHOW THE PROPOSED CAMPFIRE LOCATION SPECIFIC TIMES THAT THOSE TYPES OF FIRES WILL BE PERMITTED AND THE DESCRIPTION OF THE FIRE MANAGEMENT PLAN.

AND THEN STAFF NOTED THAT CERTAIN PERMITTED VEHICLES RELATED ÃVEHICLE RELATED USES WITH THIS APPLICATION MAY NOT BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT CONSERVATION LANDS AND THEN THE APPLICANT RESPONDED WITH LIMITED USES. AND THOSE CAN ALSO BE ADDRESSED IN THE TIME IF YOU DO CHOOSE TO TRANSMIT THIS. THOSE CONCERNS CAN ALSO GET ADDRESSED IN THE TIME BEFORE IT GETS TO YOUR REPORT OPTION. AND THEN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY UTILITY DEPARTMENT PROVIDED A WATER SEWER AVAILABILITY LETTER STATING THERE IS SUFFICIENT CAPACITY AND THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN FIVE MILES OF A FIRE STATION.

OUR ANALYSIS CONCLUDED THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS PART OF THE APPROVED PLAN ROLE DEVELOPMENT THINCLUDES STATE MARKS POND. THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT APPLICATION TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE 149 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS APPROVED WITHIN THE PRD WERE NOT DEVELOPED BECAUSE THE LAND WAS INCORPORATED INTO THE ST. MARK'S POND MITIGATION BANK AND IN 2018, A PORTION OF THE ST. MARK'S POND PLANT RURAL DEVELOPMENT WAS AMENDED FOR 25 ACRES IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FROM INDUSTRIAL DASHBOARD TO INDUSTRIAL AND REMOVE THE PLANT RURAL DEVELOPMENT AND RESUME IT TO INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE. EAST OF THE SITE HAS A FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF INDUSTRIAL, AND IS COMPRISED OF INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES AND BUSINESS PARKS, PLANT NORTH AND WEST HAS A FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF RURAL SILVERCULTURE AND AS PART OF THE 12 MILE SWAMP. THE COMP PLAN FOLLOWS THE A1 TO TWO ENCOURAGES THE DEVELOPMENT OF AREAS UNLESS THE APPLICANT DEMONSTRATES THERE IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR JOB CREATION, PRESERVATION OF NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND OTHER PUBLIC BENEFITS.

THE APPLICATION ADDRESSES HOW THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW THE PROPOSED RV RESORT AND CAMPGROUND AND PROVIDES FOR THE PUBLIC BENEFIT AS ADJACENCY TO THE ST. MARK'S POND MITIGATION BANK 12 MILE SWAMP AND PROVIDES AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR CAMPGROUND WITH GOOD ACCESS TO MAJOR ROADWAYS. PURPOSE CAMPGROUND IS A LOW IMPACT USE WITH INTEGRAL SETTING. IN THE USE WILL PROVIDE ECONOMIC AND RECREATIONAL BENEFITS. RURAL COMMERCIAL ALLOWS FOR COMMERCIAL USE IS INTENDED TO SERVE RURAL COMMUNITIES AND ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE GOAL LAND USES AND DENSITIES.

IT INCLUDES RETAIL STORES AND FUELS AGRICULTURAL MANUFACTURING ROADSIDE STANDS, PLANT NURSERIES, FISH CAMPS WITH ACCESSORY LODGING AND RESTAURANTS, CAMPGROUNDS, VEHICLES, RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKS, HOT CLUBS, RIDING CLUBS AND THOSE TYPES OF USES.

THIS IS A COMPATIBILITY MAP JUST TO SHOW THE GENERAL AREA. YOU CAN SEE THERE IS INDUSTRIAL IN THE GENERAL AREA. ALSO THE RURAL SILVERCULTURE SURROUNDS IT.

THAT WOULD BE THE RURAL COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE RURAL SILVERCULTURE VERSUS THE RURAL COMMERCIAL

>> THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY COMPLEMENT AMENDMENT ARE POLICYMAKING DECISIONS FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY AND TO DETERMINE THE FUTURE GROSS AND DETERMINATION OF CONSISTENCY WITH A COMP PLAN AND STATE LAW IS REQUIRED AND TYPES OF INFORMATION AND EVIDENCE AND

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>> TRANSMITTAL HEARINGS ARE REQUIRED TO AMEND THE FEAR FUTURE LAND USE MAP OR ANY PROPERTY OVER 10 ACRES IN SIZE AND ANY TEXT POLICY CHANGES. RECOMMENDATION TO TRANSMIT IS REQUIRED FROM THE AGENCY TO THE BOARD WHO WILL TAKE THE FINAL ACTION.

TRANSMITTAL MEANS THE AMENDMENT WILL BE SENT TO THE STATE AND AGENCIES WILL BE REVIEWING AND ONCE THOSE COMMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND THAT REVIEW IS COMPLETD, ADOPTION HEARINGS WILL BE SCHEDULED. THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY DID RECOMMEND TRANSMITTAL.

THEY LISTED ÃTHEY DISCUSSED THESE ITEMS. THE APPLICANT CONFIRMED THAT NO DEVELOPMENTS PROPOSED ON THE CONSERVATION OR MITIGATION LAND.

THEY NOTED THAT ALL USES PERMITTED IN COMMERCIAL WILL ARE ALLOWED AND SITE CONSTRAINTS LIMIT DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS AND WARRANTS USES SUCH AS VEHICULAR SERVICES WOULD REQUIRE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WHICH WOULD GO BACK BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY.

TRASH ANALYSIS IS BASED ON THEORETICAL FIELD 150 CAMPSITES AND CAMPGROUNDS HAVE A LOWER ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THAN ANY RESIDENTIAL WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE ON THIS ITEM AND IF THE BOARD FINDS THE PROJECT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, STAFF OFFERS FOR FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONFORMANCE WITH LAND

DEVELOPMENT CODE TO APPROVE. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. >>

>> SHANNON ACEVEDO. 7 WALDO ST. IT'S NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE AND HEALTHY.

THIS IS THE ST. MARK'S RV CAMPGROUND AND I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO INTRODUCE THE PROJECT TEAM THE OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN WITH PLANNING IS MYSELF AND KAREN TAYLOR, ENGINEERING ALEX ACREE WORKED ON THE SITE PLANNING AND WILL BE WORKING ON THE ENGINEERING AND THEN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT WAS JAMIE NORTHRUP WITH ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES SOLUTIONS. I WANTED TO TAKE A QUICK MOMENT TO SHOW YOU THE ACTUAL PROPERTY. THIS IS FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S MAP. THIS IS THE ONLY TIME I WILL SHOW YOU THIS BOUNDARY BECAUSE AS WAS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF PRESENTATION, WE ARE NOT SEEKING THE ENTIRE PROPERTY BUT JUST THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS THE SURROUNDING ZONINGS AND LAND USES SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF THE RURAL SILVERCULTURE VERSUS WHERE THE INDUSTRIAL MANSARD. AND THIS IS AN AREA OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND WE ARE LOOKING AT I GP AND THAT'S THE SMALLER POND AS YOU COME IN AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE BACK CORNER FOR THE LARGER POND IS. AND THEN THIS GIVES YOU THE PURVIEW OF MOST OF THE SITE AND IN THIS VIEW YOU ARE LOOKING NORTHEAST TOWARDS I GP.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP GIVES YOU AN IDEA FROM A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A MACRO OF WHAT'S GOING ON IT'S CURRENTLY RURAL CIVICULTURE BUT IT'S ADJACENT TO AN INDUSTRIAL NODE AND THEN YOU HAVE MIXED USES AS YOU GET TOWARD U.S. 1. AS YOU HAVE FURTHER WEST, YOU COME UPON MORE DENSE INTERCHANGE WHERE YOU HAVE THE ST. JOHNS DRI AND COMMERCE CENTER.

SO THIS WOULD BE LOOKING AT AMENDING THE PORTION THAT YOU SEE IN THAT LIGHT TURQUOISE, THAT IS ÃJUST TO HAVE PERSPECTIVE THE UNDERLYING ZONING I THINK YOU SAW THIS MAP EARLIER. THIS IS THE ACTUAL BORDER. IT'S 1122 ACRES TO A VERY LARGE PROPERTY OF THAT 736 ACRES ARE WETLANDS AND 780 ACRES THE ST. MARK'S POND MITIGATION BANK.

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THE ORIGINAL PRD SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION BUT IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE HERE.

BASICALLY ALL THE AREAS THAT ARE SHADED, THAT'S ALL SUBJECT TO THE ST. MARK'S POND MITIGATION BANK. SO THESE RESIDENTIAL UNITS DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY PRACTICAL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA. IT'S NO LONGER VIABLE AND SO WE THOUGHT THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION WOULD BE TOO SIMPLY DISSOLVE THE PRD AND REVERTED BACK TO OPEN RURAL. IN THE AREA IN YELLOW, WE HAVE OVERLAID OUR CONCEPTUAL SITE PLANS SO YOU CAN GET A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT THE PROPERTY WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THIS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. LOOK AT RURAL COMMERCIAL AS AN ALTERNATIVE USE AND ZONING.

WE BELIEVE THIS IS A GOOD LOCATION FOR AN RV CAMPGROUND BECAUSE THERE IS THIS WIDE EXPANSE OF NATURAL SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WITH THIS ECO-TOURIST USE.

IT HAS ACCESS TO A COLLECTOR AND COMMERCIAL RECREATION WOULD BE A GREAT THING WITHIN THE COUNTY. IN TERMS OF COMPATIBILITY AND ANTI-SPRAWL, IT IS AS I'VE MENTIONED ADJACENT TO THE INDUSTRIAL LAND USE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AS I MENTIONED THE MITIGATION PROPERTY. THAT'S THE GRADE THAT YOU SEE THERE THAT WOULD NOT BE AMENDED. THE HIGHER INTENSITY DEVELOPMENT.

THE MIXED-USE AREA IS KIND OF EXPANDING DOWN TOWARDS THE AIRPORT DISTRICT.

BUT THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE THE 12 MILE SWAMP, IT HAS A NICE TRANSITION BETWEEN THE HIGHER INTENSITY DEVELOPMENT AND THAT BASICALLY NO DEVELOPMENT AT ALL.

THERE'S NO EXTENSION OF INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED. THERE'S ALSO CAPACITY A LONG MAP FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT BEING COMPACT, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT DOES SOUND LIKE A LOT OF AREAS, 74.14 ACRES BUT THE MAJORITY OF THIS AREA IS AN EXISTING POND AT OVER 46 ACRES. THERE WILL BE SOME SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS OF THE CONTOURING OF THE POND AND ESSENTIALLY THE IDEA IS FOR DO PRETTY MUCH STAYED AWAY THAT IT IS.

THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE FOCUSED ALONG THE POND AND THE RV CAMPSITES CENTERED AROUND THE POND AND THE ALKALINES THAT ARE AVAILABLE RIGHT ALONG INTERNATIONAL GULF PARKWAY.

AND NO DEVELOPMENT ÃNOT ONLY WOULD IT NOT EXTEND INTO THE MITIGATION BUT IT WOULD NOT EXTEND INTO ANY OF THE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS. PWE WOULD WANT TO CHANGE THE EXISTING THAT'S IN PLACE TODAY. THIS IS A RENDERING IN TERMS OF A SPECIFIC USE WE ARE SEEKING WE BELIEVE IT WOULD CREATE A POSITIVE MARKET BOTH WITH TAX DOLLARS AND THE TYPE OF

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IT WENT TO 135. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE DOLLAR WENT FOR 2018.

IT WOULD PROVIDE A TYPE OF CATALYST TO ENHANCE THE SERVICE ORIENTED INDUSTRIES IN THE AREA ALONG THOSE OTHER ANY FUTURE LAND USE MAP AREAS AS I POINTED OUT EARLIER AND THE CLIENT BASE WOULD BE THE TRAVELING PUBLIC. IN ADDITION TO THAT THERE IS A RESTAURANT PLAN, SO IT WOULD ALSO BE A BENEFIT TO THE LOCAL RESIDENTS WHO WOULD HOPEFULLY SUPPORT THAT RESTAURANT'S FACILITIES AND IT WOULD COMPLEMENT THE ECOTOURISM MENTIONED EARLIER AT THIS AREA.

SO GETTING INTO THE CONCEPT PLAN ITSELF, THIS IS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, THE 74 ACRES.

WE ARE LOOKING UP TO 150 RV SITES AND I DON'T THINK WE WILL QUITE GET TO THAT BUT WE WENT TO GET UP AT THE MAXIMUM THEORETICAL IMPACT WOULD BE AND UP TO 20,000 SQUARE FEET OR YOU HAVE HALF AS A RESTAURANT SPACE AND HALF AS PART OF THE AMENITY FOR THE RV PARK ITSELF.

WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT MAINTAINING THE 25 FEET OF AVERAGE UPLAND BUFFER AND THIS WOULD BE BUILT IN A SINGLE PHASE. THERE IS ADEQUATE CAPACITY IN TERMS OF IMPACT WERE WATER AND SEWER FOR CENTRAL CONNECTION THROUGH ST. JOHNS COUNTY UTILITIES, PUBLIC SERVICES WOULD HANDLE THE SOLID WASTE SELECTION AND AS MENTIONED THE ANTICIPATED TRAFFIC COUNT WOULD BE ABOUT 111 PEAK HOUR TRIPS. AND I DID WANT TO POINT OUT AS WE LOOK AT THE DETAILS OF THE COMMON AREA AS YOU COME IN. THAT PEAK HOUR TRIP ESTIMATE DOES NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SHARED TRIPS AND WE ANTICIPATE THERE WILL BE LOTS OF SHARED TRIPS BETWEEN THE RESTAURANT AND THE VISITORS COMING TO THE CAMPGROUND.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THIS IS STILL CONCEPTUAL AT THIS STAGE, BUT KIND OF HOW WE ARE PLANNING IT IS IF YOU HAVE THE RESTAURANT AND COMMUNITY CENTER HERE, YOU WOULD PULL IN AND HAVE SOME AREAS FOR NEWCOMERS AND THE RVS TO PARK AND GET REGISTERED.

ESSENTIALLY THE NORMAL SIZED PARKING SPOTS WOULD BE FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS COMING TO THE RESTAURANT AND THEN THERE WILL BE THIS SORT OF NATURAL CELEBRATION: SEPARATION AND PRIVATE GATE TO THE CAMPGROUND THAT WILL HAVE SEPARATE PARKING SPACES FOR THOSE THAT HAVE CARS WITH RVS TO COME TO THE RESTAURANT. WE DO PLAN THAT THERE WILL BE QUITE A BIT OF SHARED TRIPS AMONG THE RESTAURANT AND THE RV.

I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS MAP JUST TO HAVE SORT OF A PERSPECTIVE OF THE MITIGATION BANK ITSELF WHICH IS THIS DOTTED AREA. THAT'S ACTUALLY ADDITIONAL IMMIGRATION AREA IS OUTSIDE THE ST. JOHNS PURITY JUST TO GIVE AN IDEA OF SCALE AND THEN HE READ WITH THE STRIKE IS THE AREA WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY. AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE LAND COVER, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT AGAIN THAT THE MAJORITY OF THIS SITE IS POND.

THERE IS ABOUT 16 ACRES OF UPLAND, 11.7 OF WETLANDS AND WHILE CONCEPTUAL AT THIS STAGE THERE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 1.7 ACRES IMPACTED OF THE WETLANDS. IN TERMS OF PROTECTED WILDLIFE THERE WERE NO LISTED SPECIES FOUND ON SITE AND THE CLOSEST DOCUMENTED BALD EAGLE IS ABOUT 2.6 MILES AWAY. SO IN SUMMARY WE BELIEVE THIS PROPERTY IS SUITABLE FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT RURAL COMMERCIAL. IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND USES. THERE SHOULD BE NO UNREASONABLE IMPACTS TO CONTIGUOUS AND SURROUNDING AREAS. I DID JUST WANT TO COMMENT REALLY QUICKLY ON THE QUESTION OF THE CAMPFIRE SITES BECAUSE WE DID CORRESPOND WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION.

WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE CAMPSITES WILL BE PLANNED BUT THE IDEA IS THAT MORE THAN LIKELY THEY WOULD BE INDIVIDUAL SITES THAT ARE TOWARDS THE WATER'S EDGE SO WHEN YOU NOTICE ON THE ONCEPTUAL PLAN THE RV CAMPSITES ARE AROUND THE WATER, YOU WOULD HAVE THE CAMPFIRE AND THEN THE ROAD THAT CIRCULATES THE POND AND BEYOND THAT ROAD WOULD BE FOR YOU HAPPY WETLANDS AND OTHER AREAS. WE DON'T SEE THIS AS BEING NEGATIVELY IMPACT FULL TO THE SURROUNDING NATURAL AREAS, BUT WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, THE DEVELOPMENT WE WILL MAKE SURE WE ARE COMPLYING WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY CODE AND WHATEVER JURISDICTIONS WE WILL DO IN THAT REGARD. SO WITH THAT I WILL REQUEST TRANSMITTAL OF THIS PLAN

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>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE, THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER WILL TAKE, >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE IT'S OUTSTANDING I HAVE TO ADMIT I AM AN RV HERE SO IT'S RIGHT UP MY ALLEY. IT'S ON MARK'S POND BOULEVARD. THERE ISN'T A RIGHT HAND TURN LANE BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY TRAFFIC THAT IS IN THAT AREA. TRUCKS, NAMELY.

RIGHT NOW THERE'S A WAREHOUSE AREA THAT'S BEING BUILT IN THERE WHICH IS GOING TO BE MORE TRUCKS. THAT IS A WELL-TRAVELED ROAD. SO I DID NOT SEE IT ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT THERE IS A CONCEPTUAL TURN LANE FOR THAT ACTIVITY THERE.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME?

YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU, MR. BLOCKER FOR RECOGNIZING ME AND GIVING ME A FEW MINUTES. I AM WILLIAM FISHER I LIVE IN FLAGLER ESTATES.

RECENTLY, WITHIN THE PAST TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS, WE HAD A CAMPGROUND OPEN UP OUT THERE, AND IT HAS BEEN A DEFINITE ADVANTAGE TO THE COMMUNITY. IT'S QUIET, THE PEOPLE THAT WALK THEIR DOGS ON LEASHES, THEY HAVE A DOG PARK AND IT'S CALLED FOR POND.

THEY BUILT AND ACCESS ROAD TO MAKE RIGHT TURNS INTO IT. AND THE MAN THAT RUNS IT IS A RETIRED DEPUTY SHERIFF FROM THIS COUNTY. HE OWNED ANOTHER CAMPGROUND CALLED PULITZER CREEK DOWN OFF U.S. 1. AND I UNDERSTAND HE HAS SOLD IT.

IT IS A DEFINITE ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY OUT THERE, AND I RECOMMEND THAT WE NEED MORE THAT THEY BE TREATED LIKE THAT ONE. THEY HAVE A PUBLIC BUILDING WHERE THEY HAVE GAMES AND THEY HAVE PARTIES INSIDE I DON'T THINK THERE'S EVER BEEN A SHARES CALL OUT THERE FOR ANYTHING I'M AWARE OF. THERE'S WATER SUPPLY IN CASE OF A FIRE. WE HAVE FOUR BIG POND. ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I JUST HAD TO PUT SOME INPUT IN HERE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY. >> DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? MR. CHAIRMAN NOT SEEING ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, WE WILL

CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT >> WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.

>> DO YOU MIND ANSWERING THE QUESTION SHE RAISED ABOUT THE ACCESS ROAD?

>> AND I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WAS GOING TO BE REQUIRED. IT'S TYPICALLY SOMETHING THAT IS FIGURED OUT IN THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS AND IT WOULD DEPEND ON ONCE WE HAVE BEEN IRONED OUT SITE PLAN OF WHAT THE ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS, HOW MANY SEATS ARE GOING TO BE AT THE RESTAURANT TO GET A FINE-TUNED NUMBER OF WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD

BE. >> IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF YOU COULD TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND

SPEAK TO HER MAKE SURE SHE UNDERSTANDS >> BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I HAVE A QUESTION ÃCOULD YOU JUST SHOW ON THE MAP. IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME IT'S A LITTLE DOWN THE ROAD. AT FIRST LOCATION MAP. BACK FURTHER.

>> CAN YOU GO TO THE FIRST LOCATION MAP? CAN YOU PUT THAT ON SO WE CAN MOVE ALONG? IT'S PAGE 2 IN OUR BACKUP MATERIAL MAP SERIES.

LOCATION MAP. KEEP GOING. IF THAT'S NOT THE MAP I WANT

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BACKUP MATERIAL >> IS IT ONE OF THESE TWO? THIS IS A BLOWUP AND THIS IS

THE OVERALL SITE. WHERE IS THE ROAD? >> HERE IS ST. MARK'S POND

BOULEVARD AND THEN INSURANCE WILL BE SOMEWHERE IN HERE >> THAT'S WHAT I BOUGHT.

THAT'S SOME DISTANCE. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM

THE BOARD? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> AS I MAKE THIS MOTION JUST AS A QUICK INTRODUCTION, THIS PROJECT IS EXACTLY WHAT I THINK FITS PERFECTLY AT THIS LOCATION ON THE NORTH AND WEST SIDE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY IS THE SWAMP AND TO BE A LITTLE NOSTALGIC I MENTIONED THIS ON WHEN THEY PURCHASED A 12 MILES WALK THIS IS THE ACTIVITY WE ENVISIONED.

SO I WILL MOVE TO TRANSMIT A COMP PLAN 2019 BASED ON THE FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT.

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>> THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED AND THAT'S MY DISCLOSURE. I THINK THAT CONCLUDES.

MRS. BISHOP? >> THIS IS REZONING 2019 20 KNOWN AS THE STORAGE LOT.

A REQUEST TO RESUME THREE ACRES FROM ALARM TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.

THIS IS THE AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED FUTURE LAND USE MAP THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING. IT IS OR. THIS IS THE FLOOD ZONE MAP.

NO MA'AM THIS IS A REQUEST TO RESUME THREE ACRES FROM COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.

THE PROPOSAL IS TO ALLOW FOR AN RV AND BOAT STORAGE ANY PERSONAL PROPERTY AND WAREHOUSE FACILITY. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A LONG-TERM PLAN TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY. THEY ARE PROPOSING FIRST THE RV AND BOAT STORAGE AND THEN ONCE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALL INSTALLED ON THE SITE THEY WILL DO THE MANY WAREHOUSE FACILITY WHICH CONSISTS OF 320 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SEVERAL CLIMATE CONTROL BUILDINGS AND SEVERAL 10 BY 20 SHIPPING CONTAINERS THIS IS A SITE PLAN THIS IS PART OF THE PLANNING REVIEW WITH RESPECT TO COMPATIBILITY AND TYPES OF USES ALLOWED IN OR VERSUS DCI WHICH IS PROPOSED.

YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER DIFFERENT USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN DCI THERE WOULD ALSO ELIMINATE MORE INTENSE OR TYPE USES ONCE IT DOES GO TO CI. FROM THIS IS A COMPATIBILITY MAP THIS ITEM WAS HEARD BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY FEBRUARY 6 THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL. STAFF IS NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE REGARDING THIS REQUEST. AND STAFF FINDS IT SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS AND WE OFFER FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

>> >> I RESIDE AT 5185 CYPRESS LAKES BLVD.

. SO THIS PROJECT I'M NOT A DEVELOPER JUST I'VE LIVED HERE IN FLORIDA FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND I EXPLAINED TO THE COMMISSIONER AND SEVERAL BUSINESSES AND I WISH TO MOVE THEM TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE CHALLENGE WAS KIND OF AN UGLY BUSINESS WHEN YOU HAVE EQUIPMENT AND CONTAINERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

HOW DO I GET IT DOWN HERE BUT THE EQUIPMENT AND POSITION IT WILL BE UGLY.

I SPENT SEVERAL MONTHS LOOKING FOR PROPERTY IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND I TOOK SIX PROPOSALS AND SAT WITH PLANNING AND ZONING SAFETY AND THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE THESE PROPERTIES DOWN WASTE OF THEIR PEER WHAT'S THE POTENTIAL TO MOVIES COMMERCIAL.

HOPEFULLY NOBODY NOTICES. OF THE SIX PROPERTIES ARE OUT THERE, THIS WAS THE LARGEST, LARGER HAN I NEEDED. I MERELY SHOT YOU HAVE IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN THE NEXT DISTRICT USES. RIGHT AHEAD AND BOUGHT A PAIR THE PLAN IS TO BE ABLE TO QUIT

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HOSPITAL ON THERE AND THAT MAKES SENSE WE CAN DO THAT. >> AT THIS TIME I MAKE A MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2020 Ã10 A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 3.0 ACRES OF LAND FROM MULTIPLE

ROPE TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND . JUST ÃIF YOU WAIT ON PAGE 7 OR SIX HOUR AGENDA PACKET IT WAS ALSO ON THE BOARD AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT MR. BOGGS MENTIONED THIS AS WELL.

THERE'S A FLOOD ZONE AND THIS ONE IS ON THE EDGE. I WANT THE SCHOOL TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A CONCERN. NOT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF IT. IF YOU WILL NOTICE ON PAGE 6 AND ON YOURS IT WILL BE ON THE SPACESHIP HAD HER STUFF THERE AS WELL IS A GO. NOTICE TO THE EAST OF THIS PROPERTY HOW WET IT IS TRUE THAT FLOODPLAIN RISES TOP AND THIS ONE IS ON THE EDGE OF IT AND IT'S ACTUALLY NOT ÃIT CAN BE BUILT UP THERE AND YOU CAN EVEN SEE HOW IT GETS WET YOUR.

THIS CLASS DURING AN EVENT AND IT MAKES ITS WAY THIS WAY. IF THIS WAS ANY FURTHER TO THE EAST I WOULD HAVE ÃI WOULD NOT APPROVE IT AT ALL BECAUSE THAT FLOODPLAIN IS SO SENSITIVE TO THE AREA BECAUSE OF IT BEING ON THE EDGE WE DISCUSSED THE PROBLEM.

AND THERE IS TO IT. IT IS A FLOODPLAIN IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS THERE.

I'M AFRAID IF IT'S IMPEDED THEY WILL HAVE REPERCUSSIONS THAT WILL BE VERY HARMFUL TO OTHER LANDOWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES 5 TO 0.

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AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6 DARBY CREEK NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT MODIFICATION.

>> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.OR THE RECORD DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. THIS ITEM IS THE DARBY CREEK NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT. THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARINGS AND NO ACTION IS REQUESTED BY THE BOARD TODAY. I AM HERE TO ANNOUNCE THE DATE OF THE SECOND REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR MAY 19, 2020 AT THE COUNTY AUDITORIUM,

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THE DURBAN CREEK NATIONAL URBAN SERVICE AREA CURRENTLY PROPOSED THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF 2.8 SQUARE FEET 2.4 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, 350 HOTEL UNITS AND 999 APARTMENT UNITS.

IN 2015, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT APPROVED BY THE BOARD FOR IMPROVEMENTS COINCIDING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT FACING AND ENTITLEMENTS.STABLISHED REIMBURSEMENT PROCEDURES 12 ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION COST AND ALSO CAPACITY CHARGE. IN 2016, THE AGREEMENT WAS FIRST MODIFIED AND AMENDED TO PHASE 1 A WHICH IS CALLED DURBAN PAVILION TO 700,000 SQUARE FEET. THAT WAS THE FIRST AMENDMENT. WE REQUEST ONE AMENDMENT TO THE ÃAND TO INCREASE THE AVAILABLE FUNDS FOR CONSTRUCTION REQUIRING.

THE REQUEST IS FOR US. WE WANT TO CONFER APPROXIMATELY 534,000 SQUARE FEET AND CONVERT THAT TO INCREASE 1266 APARTMENT UNIT. HERE IS THE FIGURE 1 THAT COMBINES ALL OF THE PHASES WHICH I WILL GO THROUGH EACH ONE TO SHOW THE COMPARISON.

THE EXISTING PHASE 1 A IS BASICALLY COMPLETED MOST OF THE 700,000 SQUARE FEET HAVE BEEN OCCUPIED. AND IN PHASE 1A, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED THE RIGHT AWAY SO THAT THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION CONSTRUCTED STATE ROAD 9B AND ALSO WEST PEYTON PARKWAY. SO THE PROPOSED PHASE 1 IS THE SAME.

HERE IS THE DEPICTION OF STATE ROAD 9B. AND WEST PEYTON PARKWAY WHICH IS THE SAME AS THE PROPOSED PHASE 1. THE PROPOSED PHASE 2 INCLUDES 1.25 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF SHOPPING CENTER. 1.65 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE PARK 375,000 SQUARE FEET OF HOSPITAL, 225 HOTEL UNITS AND 1065 APARTMENT UNITS. THE OCCUPANT IS PROPOSING IS TO COMBINE EXISTING 1B INTO THE PROPOSED PHASE 2. THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE REQUIRED UNDER EXISTING AGREEMENT IS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO CONSTRUCT FOREIGN LANES OF EAST PEYTON PARKWAY AND THEN THEY ARE GOING TO CONSTRUCT FOUR LANES OF RACETRACK ROAD FROM E. BAY PKWY. TO BOTTOM SPRING PARKWAY. THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS WILL INCLUDE THE DESIGNS OF LANES OF EAST PEYTON PARKWAY AND CONSTRUCTION OF FOUR LANES OF EAST PEYTON PARKWAY.

AS DEPICTED HERE YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING COMMITMENT THAT IS EAST PEYTON PARKWAY AND THIS IS 9B EAST PEYTON PARKWAY CONNECTED BACK TO RACETRACK ROAD.

THE OTHER SEGMENT IS BASICALLY CROSSING I-95 AT EAST PEYTON PARKWAY TO BARTON SPRINGS.

AND THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT IS DESIGNED SIX LANES OF EAST PEYTON PARKWAY AND CONSTRUCT FOUR LANES OF EAST PEYTON PARKWAY. THE REASON THAT THIS PORTION HAS BEEN REMOVED IS THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM THE DOT AS PART OF THE

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THAT'S A COMMITMENT BY DOT. IN PROPOSED PHASE 3, 350,000 SQUARE FEET OF SHELTERED HUNDRED 50,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE PARK. IN THE EXISTING PHASE 3, IS SIMILAR IN TERMS OF ENTITLEMENT IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO.

THE EASIEST COMPARISON IF YOU LOOK IS THE GENERATION VERSUS 1699.

THE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENT THAT THEY CURRENTLY APPROVED FOR USE CONSTRUCTING FOREIGN LANES OF RACETRACK ROAD FROM THE PARKWAY WHICH THEY WILL DIFFER THAT INTO PHASE 4.

WIDEN EAST PEYTON PARKWAY FROM 4 TO 6 LANES, WHICH IS A COMMITMENT AS PART OF THE PROPOSED PHASE 3. HERE'S THE DEPICTION OF THE IMPROVEMENTS. THEY REMOVED THE DESK FROM PHASE 3 BUT BASICALLY DELAY THAT INTO PHASE 4 FOR THE IMPROVEMENT.

THE EXISTING COMMITMENT HERE FOR FOUR LANES IS SIX LANES AND REMAINS IN PLACE AS PROPOSED.

IN THE PROPOSED PHASE OF FOR WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT IS TO PROVIDE 97 THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF SHOPPING CENTER SPACE 261,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE PARK AND 300 APARTMENT UNITS.

WHICH IS A REDUCTION IN THE EXISTING PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND PART OF THE PHASE 4 IS A REQUIREMENT TO SIX LANE RACETRACK ROAD FROM BARTRAM PARK.

WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DO IS THEY ARE GOING TO DESIGN SIX LANE AND CONSTRUCT FOUR LANE AT RACETRACK ROAD FROM BARTRAM PARK BLVD. TO BOSTROM SPRINGS.

AND THEY ARE ASKING TO REMOVE THE COMMITMENT FOR THE SIX LANE RACETRACK ROAD FROM THE AGREEMENT. SO HERE IS A DEPICTION OF WHAT THE EXISTING COMMITMENT REQUIRES. BARTRAM PARK BLVD. IS APPROXIMATELY RIGHT HERE AND THEN THE SIX LANE TO U.S. 1. SO THE REDUCTION TO THAT IS FROM BARTRAM PARK.

DESIGN SIX LANE AND BUILD FOR LANE. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THERE'S A CONNECTION FROM E. BAY PKWY. TO RACETRACK ROAD AND THIS WILL BASICALLY BE COMMITTED BY DOT.

WITH THAT, OUR EVALUATION STARTS THAT WE SEE THE OUTCOME OF EAST PEYTON PARKWAY CONNECTION TO RACETRACK ROAD WILL BENEFIT THE REGION AND WILL PROVIDE ANOTHER CONNECTION EAST OF I-95 AND THEREFORE WILL RELIEVE SOME OF THE EXISTING CONGESTION ON THE EXISTING PORTION OF RACETRACK ROAD. THE PORTION IS LIKELY TO BE INCLUDED IN DOT CONSTRUCTION OF THE RICH OVER ON I-95. STAFF SAYS THAT PROJECTED DEVELOPMENT FACING INTRA-STATION IMPROVEMENT FACING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL INTENT.

PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS DO NOT INCREASE THE OVERALL PROJECT TRIP GENERATION ORIGINALLY APPROVED. AND THE PROPOSED ACCELERATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT SUPPORTED BY EAST PEYTON PARKWAY CONSTRUCTION AND ÃHAVE NOT BRIDGED OVERPASS IS ANTICIPATED TO EXTEND FOUR LANES OF RACETRACK ROAD ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BRIDGE.

WE HAVE A VERBAL COMMITMENT BY DOT. THEY HAVE PUSHED ONE YEAR OUT BY ONE YEAR IN 2023. WOULD I AM HERE TO ANNOUNCE THE SECOND HEARING WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR MAY 2020 STARTING AT 9:00 AND I AM HERE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

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>> BIG QUESTION OVERALL. DID YOU MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR TRAFFIC CAPACITY? I KNOW A LOT OF THIS IS COMMERCIAL AND WE DON'T HAVE AN IMPACT ÃWE WILL HANDLE THAT BUT THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION IN OTHER AREAS OF OUR COUNTY ABOUT TRAFFIC CAPACITY AND HAVING TO MEET CERTAIN TRAFFIC THRESHOLDS BEFORE WINDING ROADWAYS.

THE CHANGES OF THE SECTIONS OF ROADWAY TO BE BUILT WERE WIDENED AND THE TRAFFIC THAT Ã WITH THE CHANGES MEET THE REGULATIONS FOR TRAFFIC FLOW AS IF IT WAS ANYWHERE ELSE IN OUR COUNTY? BASED ON THE PROJECTION IS BASED ON THE RATE AS THOUGH THE COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF, WE ANTICIPATE IT WILL BE ADEQUATE BEFORE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE ANY WORK FOR CONSTRUCTION IN THIS SUBSEQUENT PHASE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THE FOUR LANE OF EAST PEYTON PARKWAY BACK TO RACETRACK ROAD.

THAT ALONE WOULD HELP TO RELIEVE SOME OF THE EXISTING CONGESTION ON THE TWO LANE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. THE TIMELINE BASED ON THIS WE ARE LOOKING AT BY THE EARLIEST BY THE END OF 2021 BEFORE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE COMPLETED FOR EAST PEYTON PARKWAY.

AND THEN THEY BASICALLY WILL REMOVE ÃWE LOOK AT THE INCREMENTAL INCREASES.

IN THAT TIMELINE WE ALSO ARE WORKING WITH DOT EVEN THOUGH THE SEGMENT ON I-95 HAS BEEN BASICALLY DELAYED BY ONE YEAR AND WE ARE REQUESTING THEM TO ADVANCE THE DOLLARS IN ORDER TO HAVE THE OVER PLASTIC PASS REPLACED IN 2023 INSTEAD OF 2024.

SO THERE MIGHT BE A ONE YEAR DELAY IN TERMS OF THE CONNECTION TO RACETRACK ROAD AND BASED ON THE PROJECTION OF A BUILD OUT WE THINK THAT WOULD BE ADEQUATE TO SUPPORT THAT.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT, BARTRAM PARK TO LOOK AT IMPROVING THE PORTION THAT IS TO LANES, BASICALLY FROM BARTRAM PARK TO EAST

PEYTON PARKWAY. >> THERE IS A SMALL SECTION OF ROADWAY OUTSIDE OF THE DOT RIGHT-OF-WAY OF I-95 EAST AND WEST SIDES THAT IS A TRANSITION FROM 2 TO 4 LANES OR JUST TO LANES. IN WHICH PORTION OF THIS Ã THESE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS WITH

THOSE SECTIONS BE WIDENED TO FOUR LANES? >> OUTSIDE OF THE DOT

RIGHT-OF-WAY? >> THERE IS A SMALL SECTION OF LAND EAST OF THE I-95 RIGHT AWAY FROM THE BRIDGE THAT IS NOT FOR LANES AND THERE IS A SECTION ÃTHERE'S TWO LANES ON

THE WEST SIDE. >> WE HAVE A VERBAL COMMITMENT WE TIED IT TO RACETRACK ROAD ON THE WEST SIDE AND THEY WILL FOR LANES UP TO THAT POINT AND AT THE SAME TIME THEY WILL EXPAND TO FOUR LANES UP TO ABOUT LESS THAN 1000 FEET OR SO THAT IS CURRENTLY ALREADY FOR LANES.

THEY WILL TIE INTO THAT AS WELL. >> WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IS THERE'S NOT A SMALL SECTION OF ROADWAY THAT'S NOT IMPROVED TO FOUR LANES BECAUSE WE HAVE CURRENTLY ON COUNTY ROAD 210 EAST OF 95 WHICH IS BEING ADDRESSED BY THE COUNTY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S IN THE ULTIMATE FOUR-LANE FOR SOME YEARS DOWN

THE ROAD AND SIX LEANING ON THIS PARTICULAR ROAD. >> MAY I SUGGEST AS WELL, IT'S NOT WRITTEN IN THE AGREEMENT, BUT YOU MAY ASK THE APPLICANT TO COMMIT TO THAT AS WELL IN CASE DOT WOULD NOT CONSTRUCT AN EXTENDED TO EAST PEYTON PARKWAY AND NOT EXPANDED TO FOUR LANES TO BARTON SPRINGS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD SUGGEST.

YOU CAN ASK THE APPLICANT TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT AS WELL. > THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS, IF I MAY BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY TIME

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I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS. I LIVE ON ANASTASIA ISLAND. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON REALLY WELL BUT IT SEEMS IN THE LAST YEAR TO LOOK AT THE GOOD THING THAT'S HAPPENING AT 9:00 P.M. WHAT'S GOING ON AT 2209 WE ARE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS MOVING SOUTH TO NORTH.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WITH BOTH RACETRACK AND YOU JUST MENTIONED TO 10 WE ARE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS WITH ROAD WIDENIN 2 TO 4 LANES ON BOTH BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO ME THE BOTTLENECK RACETRACK AND TO 10 AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE MAKING PROCESS.

AVERY SMITH IS IN THE AUDIENCE AND WHEN WE DID GRAND OAKS THEY AGREED TO DO THREE MILES ON 16.

GOOD FUZZY FEELINGS ADEQUATELY OR ÃYOU ARE THE GUY DO YOU SHARE MY SAME SENSE OR ARE WE NOT MOVING FAST ENOUGH? RACETRACK ROAD IS MORE CONGESTED THAN IT WAS 10 YEARS AGO. THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMING AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO MAKE SURE THESE GAPS ARE FILLED WHEN THESE ÃSTATE STANDARD FOR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS LEVELS I

ASSUME THAT STILL USE? >> YES. THAT'S STILL USED

>> RACETRACK ROAD WAS NOT AT LEVEL SERVICE STEPHEN SEALEY 20 OR 30 YEARS AGO.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE AS THESE AREAS ARE DEVELOPED WE ARE NOT AT LEVEL D DAY ONE WHEN EVERYTHING IS DEVELOPED. THE CHANGES ÃTHE IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMING AND THEY ARE COMING AT THE EXPENSE OF THE DEVELOPERS AND I REMIND HOMEOWNERS THAT LIVE IN THE CORRIDOR, I LIVE IN A COURT OR WHILE I WAS RAISED HERE AND IT WAS NOT AT LEVEL SERVICE SEE BEFORE I GRADUATED FRM HIGH SCHOOL, IT IS NOW, BUT IT WILL BE REVERTED BACK TO A LEVEL SERVICE THAT MEETS THE REGULATIONS WHEN ALL OF THESE CHANGES AND IMPROVEMENTS ARE MADE IN SPITE OF THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE LIVING THERE AND WORKING THERE.

SO TODAY YOU MAY NOT SEE IT OR FEEL IT BUT THE CHANGES ARE COMING THAT PEOPLE WILL FEEL.

IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME. MOST OF THESE BUSINESSES ARE SOME OF THE TOP AS FAR AS SALES AND PRODUCTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE STATE. PEOPLE LIKE WHAT'S BEING BUILT AND IT'S PROVIDING A SHORTER DRIVE FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO WORK AND FOR THEIR SHOPPING NEEDS.

THAT INTERACTION OF TRAFFIC JUST LIKE 9B CHANGE TRAFFIC PATTERNS DRAMATICALLY BETWEEN 9B, 2209, AND 95 90 OPENED IN WEEKS AND I HAVE PEOPLE CALLING TO ASK WHAT CHANGED BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS 1 TO 10. WHILE WE DO OUR BEST TO ADVERTISE THESE THINGS, LOTS OF PEOPLE WERE NOT AWARE OF 90 AROUND THE CORNER.

IT WILL TAKE SOME CHANGES IN DRIVING HABITS AS THE ROADWAYS ARE WIDENED AND ADDED AND WE NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO BE PROACTIVE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THERE'S A NEW PATH TO GET WHERE YOU WANT TO GO AS THESE IMPROVEMENTS OCCUR. BUT BASED ON WHAT I AM HEARING, THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO RESTORE TRAFFIC FLOW TO PREDEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS AS IT BUILDS OUT. I DON'T KNOW THAT PEOPLE NECESSARILY FEEL IT TODAY IF THEY LIVED HERE 10 OR 20 YEARS AGO, BUT THEY WILL AS THESE SECTIONS OF TWO LANE ROADS ARE WIDENED TO FOUR AND SIX LANES, AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.

I'M NOT A TRAFFIC EXPERT. UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE IT BUT I'M NOT THE DESIGNER. I CAN FOLLOW THE BREADCRUMB TRAIL BUT I DON'T MAKE IT.

>> THANKS. THAT'S A GOOD COMMENT AND I APPRECIATE IT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S HOPE. >> AS I SAID, PEOPLE WHO ARE DEVELOPING THE LAND MAY CREATE THE TRAFFIC FLOW BUT THEY CREATE THE SOLUTIONS FOR BUILDING ROADWAYS AND WIDENING THE ROADWAYS IN TRAFFIC INTERSECTIONS AND TURN LANES, ETC. SHOULD WE JUST HAVE TO RELY ON THE EXPERTS TO LOOK AT THE SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM EFFECTS AND BENEFITS.

>> MORE QUESTION AND ANSWER? >> I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE WORKED FOR

>> THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS SAYS WARM FUZZIES AND THAT'S A GOOD THING. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? FROM THE APPLICANT NOW.

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>> >> I'M GLAD WE ARE ALL MAINTAINING OUR SENSES OF HUMOR TODAY. I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING OPEN FOR BUSINESS BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY IS A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH WORLD HEALTH BUT I THINK PEOPLE ARE ALSO EQUALLY NERVOUS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE ECONOMY.

SO YOU STAYING OPEN AT LEAST FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KEEP GOING WITH THE ECONOMY IS GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FO THE OPPORTUNITY.

SO WE WILL CONTINUE FORWARD AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT MY POWERPOINT.

SORRY. OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS EMAILS AND.

NOW? OKAY. WE WILL DO THIS THE OLD-FASHIONED WAY. I HAVE THE POWERPOINT PRINTED OUT.

SO WE WILL DO THIS. >> DO WE NOT HAVE IT? WE DON'T HAVE IT?

>> I'VE GOT IT PRINTED OUT. >> WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE PRINTED OUT VERSION.

>> SOMETIMES I HATE TO PUSH THE PRINT BUTTON BUT TODAY IS NOT ONE OF THEM TO SO WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT WE ARE. WITH ME TODAY ARE OFTEN WHO IS OUR PROJECT TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER AND TONY ROBBINS AND BRIAN DAVIS FOR THE PROJECT PLANNER. SO IF WE GET INTO TECHNICAL QUESTIONS I WILL CALL UPON THEIR EXPERTISE TO TALK ABOUT WHATEVER WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT. SO YOU ARE ALL AWARE FROM WHAT MR. NEWMAN JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS IS THE MASTER PLAN. I'M ALL STRAIGHTENED UP NOW.

SO TO ORIENT YOU, HERE'S RACETRACK ROAD ON THE NORTH AND YOU HAVE I-95, STATE ROAD 9B IS PEYTON PARKWAY AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THESE PEYTON PARKWAY WHICH DOES NOT EXIST YET. YOU'VE GOT THE PROPOSED FLAGLER HOSPITAL MEDICAL CAMPUS HERE IN THE PROPOSED BASS PRO SHOP AND ANOTHER 800,000 OR SO SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL HERE AND THEN FILLING IN MULTIFAMILY OFFICE SPACE AND THEN COMMERCIAL ALONG RACETRACK ROAD AND OFFICE AND MIXED-USE ON THE EAST SIDE OF I-95. THIS IS IN A PUD THAT WILL COME INTO YOUR MAY 19 TO JOIN UP WITH THIS APPLICATION TALKING ABOUT TODAY AND AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. YOU'VE AMENDED IT ONCE AND WE ARE ASKING FOR A SECOND AMENDMENT. PRIMARILY TO ADD HOSPITAL AS A COMMITTEE TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE PHASING OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS GRANTED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE SEQUENCING OF THE ROADWAYS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT. OF COURSE, WE HAVE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT FLAGLER HEALTH PLUS OPENING A MEDICAL CAMPUS IN DURBIN PARK WHICH WILL BRING HIGH-PAYING JOBS TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY EARLIER IN THE PROJECT AND EXPECTED.

THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING FOR WITH THE PROJECT NOW INSTEAD OF WAITING.

THE OWNER IS NOT SEEKING TO TERMINATE OR INCREASE THE ENTITLEMENTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, ONLY TO MODIFY IT IN ORDER TO BETTER TIME THE ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION OBLIGATIONS. SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MONEY AND THIS GOES TO A COUPLE OF THINGS COMMISSIONER JOHNS WAS TALKING ABOUT.E'VE GOT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT REALLY HAS TO PAYMENT STREAMS. ONE ARE WHAT ARE CALLED GROUP CAPACITY CHARGES, WHICH ARE THE EQUIVALENT OF TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS. THOSE ARE PAID BY THE DEVELOPER. OUT OF POCKET. NO REIMBURSEMENT.

THE SECOND PART OF IT IS FINANCING. AS YOU GENTLEMEN KNOW BECAUSE YOU WERE TRYING TO CHANGE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ENCOURAGE MORE NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WHICH YOU HAVE DONE, THERE IS NO SUCH THING. THERE'S MORE NONRESIDENTIAL PROJECTS. THIS PROJECT WOULD GO ALONG IN ITS TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION IN THE FORM OF ROAD IMPACT VERSUS CREDITS AND ALL OTHER OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED JUST TO MITIGATE FOR THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE ABOUT $23 MILLION. THE EXISTING AGREEMENT HAS AN OBLIGATION, THE COMPONENT PART WOULD PAY ABOUT $31 MILLION AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ACTUALLY INCREASES

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THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE $36 MILLION INCLUDED IN THE TIF. A LOT OF DOLLARS WHICH ARE GOING INTO THE COUNTIES TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. SO THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ARE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FUNDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROADS LISTED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH SOME REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE TIF.

THE TIF DOES NOT HAVE VERY MUCH MONEY IN IT RIGHT NOW. WE CAN CALL HER BACK IF YOU WANT THAT VERIFICATION. WE HAVE SPOKEN TO HIM ABOUT THE FACT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY IN THE TIF AS THE DEVELOPMENT IS NEW. THERE ARE 700,000 SQUARE FEET THAT HAVE BEEN OPEN FOR A YEAR OR SO AND SOME BUSINESSES ARE STILL OPENING.

BUT THAT HAS NOT HAD ENOUGH TIME TO COLLECT IN THE COUNTIES OFFERS YET.

THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT IMPROVEMENT COST WITH THE GOOD ECONOMY COMES HIGHER COSTS TO BUILD ROADS AND HOUSES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND SO ALSO THE HOSPITAL WILL NOT ÃIS A KNOT-FOR-PROFIT AS MOST HOSPITALS ARE, AND SO WE WON'T BE PAYING A TIF.

WE ALREADY WENT TO THE PROPOSED REVISION SO I WILL JUST BREEZE THROUGH THESE.

PHASE 1 WHICH WAS FORMALLY CALLED PHASE 1 A HAS BEEN COMPLETED THAT HAD APPROXIMATELY $20 MILLION VALUE FOR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND WHAT HAS NOW BEEN ACCOMPLISHED IN THE MIDDLE PART OF THE COUNTY TO TRANSPORTATION BACKLOG. PHASE 2 FORMERLY PHASE 1B WILL INCLUDE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A FOUR LANE ÃI'M SORRY ÃTHESE PEYTON PARKWAY FROM 9B UP TO RACETRACK ROAD. AND THAT WILL AGAIN ÃBUT WILL BE FRONTING THAT $20 MILLION EVENTUAL REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE TIF AND THE PASTRY FORMERLY PHASE 2 WILL INCLUDE THE SECURING OF THESE PEYTON PARKWAY TO THE TUNE OF $2.7 MILLION.

AND THEN PHASE 3 ÃPHASE 4 WHICH WAS FORMERLY PHASE 3 WILL WIDEN RACETRACK RD. TO 4 LANES FROM BARTRAM PARK BLVD. BARTON SPRINGS BLVD. IF YOU LOOK IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT MODIFICATION DOCUMENT WHICH IS IN YOUR PACKAGE, YOU WILL SEE A COMMITMENT THAT IF DOT DOES NOT ÃMR. NEWMAN HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF GOING TO DOT AND SAYING IF YOU ARE GOING TO WIDEN THIS BRIDGE CAN YOU ALSO WIDEN ALL THE WAY TO EAST PAYTON AS FAR AS YOU CAN.

KATE WILL PAY FOR THIS ENTIRE SEGMENT. INCLUDING THE BRIDGE BECAUSE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THE ECONOMY OR WHATEVER ELSE IT CURVES IT.

THE THING THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THIS WOULD BE THE EVENTUAL SIX LANDING OF RACETRACK ROAD AND WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT TRAFFIC ITSELF DOES NOT WARRANT THAT WITH THE BACKGROUND TRAFFIC IT DOES AND SO IN THE FUTURE YOU WILL HAVE A TIF THAT WILL BE GENERATING BY THE TIME WHEN YOU HAVE ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT YOU WILL GENERATE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PER YEAR FOR THE COUNTY. AND SO YOU WILL HAVE THAT TIF TO PAY FOR THE SIX LANDING OF RACETRACK ROAD IF YOU EVENTUALLY NEED IT. AND SO AGAIN, I WILL SHOW YOU THESE PRETTY SLIDES. THE CUMULATIVE ROADWAY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THIS PROJECT ARE ALMOST $63 MILLION. AND THE PROJECT, THE ROADWAY CAPACITY CHARGES WILL INCREASE BY ABOUT 1,000,000 1/2 DOLLARS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TIF WHICH IS A REIMBURSEMENT AND IT'S ABOUT HALF. HALF OF IT IS LITERALLY PAID BY THIS DEVELOPMENT TOWARDS THE

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IN YOUR PACKAGE YOU HAVE THIS DOCUMENT WHICH PAWSOME DID AND IT'S PROBABLY 150 PAGES SO WE ARE LOOKING AT IT BUT THE ANALYSIS IS THERE TO JUSTIFY ALL THE NUMBERS THAT I JUST RECENTLY MENTIONED.AILURE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT >> I HAVE ONE.

YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW WHAT IT IS DEDICATION OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. YOU ARE CORRECT

>> BECOMES HIS DIVISION YES, SIR QUICK QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

COMMISSIONABLE? P>> YOUR WILLY WONKA BOARD ÃTHE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IS MAY 19

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AND WE WILL MISS LIVING >> GOOD MORNING. REBECCA LEVI SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY. THIS ITEM IS AN OVERVIEW ON WHAT THE STATE HAS BEEN DOING WITH RESPECT TO TOBACCO REGULATION IN THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION AS WELL HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO WHAT THIS FOR MAY WANT TO DEAL WITH RESPECT TO GLOBAL REGULATION AND SALE OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS. SO ON FEBRUARY 4, FROM TOBACCO FREE ST. JOHNS REGARDING STATE AND FEDERAL TOBACCO LEGISLATION AND VERY SAD PRESENTATION THERE WERE SOME POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS MADE WHICH ARE UP ON THE BOARD, INCLUDING LOCAL TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSING, LIMITATION OR BANNING OF FLAVORS INCREASING THE SALES AGE TO 21 AND PROHIBITION OF SAMPLING. CURRENTLY, THE COUNTY HAS TWO ORDINANCES THAT REGULATE THE SALE OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS. ORDINANCE 2000 Ã44 PROHIBITS THE PLACEMENT OF TOBACCO IN AN OPEN SLEIGH UNIT EXCEPT IN RESTRICTED ACCESS AREAS.

2013 Ã36 DOES THE SAME THING FOR FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS. PERSONS UNDER THE AGE OF 18 ON THE PREMISE IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR FOR ALL TOBACCO PRODUCTS NATIONWIDE THIS PROHIBITION IS PLACED ON THE RETAILER CAN DO: ATTEMPT TO PURCHASE TOBACCO PRODUCTS.

ADDITIONALLY, WITH RESPECT TO FLAVORED CIGARETTES, THE FDA ISSUED SOME POLICIES PROHIBITING FLAVORS AND SMALL CARTRIDGE BASED CIGARETTES. THIS IS SIMPLY AN ENFORCEMENT

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THE STATE LEGISLATURE PASSED LEGISLATIVE SESSION HAS SEVERAL BILLS THAT WOULD HAVE INTEREST.

THE SALE OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS AT THE TIME I MADE THIS PRESENTATION INCLUDED THE THREE THAT HAD THE MOST MOTION INDISCRIMINATE, AND SINCE THAT TIME, TWO OF THOSE BILLS ACTUALLY PASSED THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE WERE SUBSEQUENTLY WITHDRAWN.

SO THE ONLY BILL I'M GOING TO DISCUSS WITH YOU TODAY IS SENATE BILL 18 ÃEXCUSE THE 810 ÃWHICH PASSED SOME MINUTES, A MOMENT. SO SENATE BILL 810 INCREASES THE MINIMUM AGE TO LAWFULLY PURCHASE AND POSSESS TOBACCO FROM 18 TO 21.

IT REMOVES A CERTAIN LAW FOR PERSONS IN THE MILITARY AND EMANCIPATED MINORS.

SHE PERSONS UNDER 21 AND IT PROHIBITS THE SALE OF FLAVORED LIQUID NICOTINE PRODUCTS OTHER THAN TOBACCO AND MENTHOL. THAT WAS THE VERSION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE SENATE IN WHICH PASSED THE SENATE PASSED TO THE HOUSE. THE HOUSE MAY SOME ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS WHICH I'M GOING TO PUT ON THE OVERHEAD. SO THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT THE HOUSE PROPOSED REPLACING THE WORD ADULT WITH THE PHRASE PERSONS OF 21 AGE OR OLDER. THE HOUSE AMENDMENT DID INCLUDE SOME LIMITED LANGUAGE REGARDING STATE LICENSING FOR THE RETAIL SALE OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS. IT'S BETWEEN A LIQUID NICOTINE AND PRODUCTS MADE FROM TOBACCO LEAVES WHICH WOULD BE MORE OF WHAT YOU CONVENTIONALLY THINK OF WHEN YOU THINK OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS. IT DOES PROVIDE FOR A FEE FOR A GENERAL RETAIL TOBACCO PRODUCT WHICH WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DEAL WITH ALL TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND THE EFFECTIVE DATE WAS CHANGED FROM OCTOBER FROM OCTOBER 1 2020 TO 2021.

I'M GOING TO SKIP AHEAD SENATE BILL 1394 WAS WITHDRAWN AND THAT DEALT MORE WITH LICENSING FEES. SENATE BILL 630 WAS WITH DRAWN THAT WAS ADDRESSING THE LOCAL PREEMPTION OF REGULATING SMOKING. I'M GOING TO SKIP FORWARD TO WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE TODAY. YOUR FIRST OPTION WOULD BE TOO SIMPLY AMEND THE COUNTIES ORDINANCES TO PROVIDE FOR A MINIMUM AGE OF 21 INSTEAD OF 18.

OPTION TWO WOULD HAVE ÃI WOULD HAVE SUGGESTED THAT THE DEFINITION OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS BE AMENDED TO TRACK THAT LANGUAGE.

ASK SENATE BILL 1394 IS NO LONGER IN PLAY, THERE'S NOT SO MUCH OF AN ISSUE WITH THE CONSISTENCY WITH STATE LAW THAT WE STILL MAY WANT TO LOOK AT OUR DEFINITION OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT TRACKS THE LANGUAGE IN SENATE BILL 810 AS WELL AS REFERENCING THE LIQUID NICOTINE PRODUCTS WHICH WERE NOT AN ISSUE WHEN THEY WERE ENACTED.

>> SO OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO, IT'S NOT AN EITHER OR TRIP >> IT COULD BE BOTH.

OPTION 3 JUST THE LOCAL RETAIL LICENSE THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE FEBRUARY BOARD MEETING IN

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BUT IF THEY WISH TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE WITH ONE OR MORE OF THESE OPTIONS THAN THOSE WOULD BE DEVELOPED AND THEN WILL BE BROUGHT BACK FOR OUR NORMAL PROCEDURES I DO RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD CONSIDER THAT FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSISTENCY WITH STATE LAW. THE OTHERS WOULD BE MORE OF A BROAD POLICY DIRECTION ON THE PART OF THE BOARD AS TO WHAT YOU WANT TOBACCO REGULATION IN THE COUNTY TO LOOK LIKE GENERALLY. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS

YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LEVINE?

>> I WILL WAIT UNTIL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> ANY DISCUSSION?

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> MR. BLOCKER: AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN PLEASE COME FORWARD. IS DETERMINED, NOT SEEING ANYONE COME FORWARD, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.

>> IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION OR OPINION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD.

THESE ARE NOT NUMBERED BUT THEY ARE DOTS, THEY ADJUSTED THE PAGE AND REVISED THE DEFINITIONS OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS. I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH BOTH OF THOSE BECAUSE I THINK AS I SAID A YEAR AGO, I THINK WE STILL HAVE A MAJOR E-CIGARETTE EPIDEMIC IN THIS COUNTY AMONG HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, EVEN JUNIOR HIGH.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT BUT I ALSO THINK THAT AT THIS TIME I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND GOING FORWARD WITH THE OTHER PROVISION. YOU MOVED IT.

NOT LICENSING THE THIRD PROVISION I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO LICENSE THE LOCAL TOBACCO SELLERS. I THINK THAT SORT OF FALLS UNDER OUR UMBRELLA.

I THINK I WOULD RECOMMEND THE FIRST TWO. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> MR. BLOCKER: I WENT TO CONCUR WITH COMMISSIONER D. I THINK OPTION ONE AND TWO MAKE THE MOST SINCE REALLY TO BRING OUR LANGUAGE OF ORDINANCE IN LINE WITH THE CHARACTERS IN THE STATES AND TO BROADEN THE DEFINITION AND TO ADDRESS Ã MAYBE YOU CAN HELPED ME ÃIT'S ONE OF MY UNDERSTANDING ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT OF THE STATE LEVEL IS BECAUSE THE, QUOTE, FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS DOESN'T FULLY CAPTURE THE VAPOR GENERATED PRODUCTS, SO I BELIEVE FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, THAT'S WHY THIS RECOMMENDATION HAS COME BROADLY SPEAKING AT THIS STATE AND FEDERAL LEVELS

>> THAT'S CORRECT. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A GAP BETWEEN WHAT THE STATE REGULATIONS COVER AND SOME OF THESE NEW PRODUCTS WHICH DON'T WORK THE SAME WAY AS YOUR

CONVENTIONAL TOBACCO PRODUCTS. >> ABSOLUTELY. IN LIGHT OF THAT THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE CONSIDER WHAT COMMISSIONER DEAN OPTION ONE AND TWO.OPTION THREE, I THINK, IS AGAIN, REALLY NOT SOMETHING WE PROBABLY WANT TO JUMP INTO RIGHT NOW. I KNOW OTHER COUNTIES HAVE DONE IT AND WERE SUCCESSFUL BUT WE ARE NOTAT THAT PONT YET. CERTAINLY CLEANING UP OUR LANGUAGE A BIT AND DEFINING IT A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICALLY FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IS THERE A CONCESSION TOWARD

THAT? IS THERE A CONSENSUS? >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION.

FOLLOW ME, THEN, I MOVED TO AMEND THE DEFINITION ÃFIRST, I MOVE THE ORDINANCE TO MOVE THE AGE TO 21 INSTEAD OF 18 QUICK TO COMPLY WITH STATE AND FEDERAL LAW AND ALSO TO AMEND THE DEFINITION OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS, FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS IN ORDINANCE 2044 AND 2013 Ã36 TO INCLUDE THE VAPOR GENERATED ELECTRONIC DEVICES CONSISTENT WITH LANGUAGE IN

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SENATE BILL 1394 >> SECOND >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND

. LEGAL? >> I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BRINGING THIS UP BEFORE, BUT SO THERE ARE AS WAS INDICATED, TO SEPARATE ORDINANCES.

THEY BOTH GENERALLY PERTAIN TO TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND IF THIS GOES FORWARD AND EXPANDED DEFINITION. I WOULD ASK HER IS THERE ANY REASON THEY COULDN'T BE CONSOLIDATED INTO JUST ONE ORDINANCE OR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION WITH THIS

DIRECTION ON OPTION ONE AND TWO? >> THERE ARE NO REASON THE TWO

ORDINANCES COULD NOT BE CONSOLIDATED. >> AND THAT WOULD GET THE BENEFIT OF HAVING SORT OF YOUR TOBACCO SMOKING, VAPING TYPE OF THING ALL IN ONE PLACE.

>> IF NEEDED I WILL GET THAT FURTHER DIRECTION TO STAFF IN MY MOTION.

>> WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IT'S 11:56. WE WILL HEAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8 AND THEN WE WILL TAKE A BREAK. LET'S GO AHEAD AND HEAR AGENDA

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I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW LONG THIS WILL TAKE SO I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT TIME, BUT WE WILL BRING IT BACK AFTER THIS ITEM IS HEARD TO HEAR IT. WE WILL TAKE A BREAK AFTER THIS

AGENDA ITEM. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8. >> THANK YOU.

THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8 THE RECOMMENDATION AND MEMORY MR. KEITH MARTIN.

SO THE REQUEST FOR THE RENAMING OF THE FIELD OF DREAMS REQUEST BY ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENT KIM KENDALL TO RENAME THE FIELD OF DREAMS TO KEITH MARTIN FIELD OF DREAMS. THE FIELD OF DREAMS IS LOCATED WITHIN ABERDEEN PARK PHYSICAL ADDRESS IS 1360

>> HERE IS A MAP OF THE PARK AND YOU CAN SEE BY THE GREEN ARROW THAT INDICATES WHERE THE FIELD OF DREAMS IS. HERE IN THE REQUEST SUMMARY IT'S BEEN REQUESTED TO RENAME THE FIELD OF DREAMS TO KEITH MARTIN FIELD OF DREAMS. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ESTABLISHED A POLICY FOR NAMING OFF PUBLIC FACILITY.

THE POLICY REQUIRES THE NAMING OF FACILITIES AFTER PERSONS ARE RESTRICTED TO THOSE PERSONS WHO HAVE BEEN DECEASED FOR NO LONGER THAN 12 MONTHS AND THEY BE VETTED TO THE APPROPRIATE ADVISORY BOARD. THE MARCH 3, 2020, BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING THE BOARD TASK RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD TO EVALUATE THIS REQUEST FOR MARCH 12, 2020 MEETING AND PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION. WE'VE INCLUDED THE RESOLUTION IN THE POLICY FOR NAMING. IN REVIEW, THE FIELD OF DREAMS BASEBALL IS AN ACCESSIBLE TURF FIELD OFFERING SPRING SEASONS OF RECREATIONAL BASEBALL TO ST. JOHN COUNTIES EXCEPTIONAL CHILDREN. FIELD OF DREAMS IS A MEMBER OF THE CREEKS ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION AND THEY RAISE THE MONEY NEEDED TO BUILD THE FIELD AND PLAYGROUND THROUGH FUNDRAISERS AND CONTRIBUTIONS. CORRESPONDENCE WE HAVE RECEIVED KIM KENDALL ADDRESS YOU AT THE MARCH 2020 MEETING. EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE WAS SENT TO THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD WITH DOCUMENTATION TO SUPPORT HER REQUEST AHEAD OF THE MARCH 12, 2020 PRESENTATION TO THE ADVISORY BOARD, THE CREEKS ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT ALSO EMAIL THE BOCC AT THE FIELD OF DREAMS SHOULD REMAIN DEDICATED TO THE CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.

THIS IS THE PLACE TO GO FOR THEIR PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, AND FAMILY MEMBERS TO COME WATCH THEM PLAY AND HAVE FUN. CREEKS ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION IN FIELD OF DREAMS BELIEVE WE SHOULD HONOR KEITH MARTIN BUT NOT THE FIELD. RECOMMENDED ACTION THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD MADE THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS AFTER MARCH 12, 2020, BOARD

>> IN HONORING KEITH MARTIN AND ITEM 2 HAVING DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY PARTIES INVOLVED. AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A PACKET WITH RESOLUTION APPROVING OR DISAPPROVING THE

REQUEST. >>JEB SMITH: THANK YOU. WE ALSO HAVE A LETTER FROM MR. AND RYAN STAND ON THIS ONE DATED MARCH 16, 2020 AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSIONS OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF MEMBERS ON BOARD? SEGMENT.

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>> HOLDER. WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON A AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. WE HAVE TWO PODIUMS. IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER COMMENT LINE UP BEHIND THE PODIUM.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. KIM KENDALL EAGLE POINT DRIVE. I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK THE PARK AND REC ADVISORY BOARD FOR UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDING IN SUPPORT OF HONORING KEITH MARTIN IN THE FIELD OF DREAMS. THERE ARE HANDOUTS THAT ARE INCLUDED. SOME EMAILS FROM TWO OF THE INAUGURAL FIELD OF DREAMS MEMBERS. THEY STAND OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD AND THEY SHOWED THEIR GOOD -- THERE SHOWING KEITH IN CHARGE IMPLEMENTING A BLUEPRINT, TALKING THROUGH PHASES TWO AND THREE OF FIELD AND DREAMS ABOUT FUNDRAISING AND ALSO INCLUDED IS A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE. ALSO WE'VE INCLUDED 14 PICTURES ON KEITH MARTIN SON NICK AND HIS TRAVEL BASEBALL TEAM. SEVERAL PARTS OF THE BODY THAT WE USE THAT HELP OUR FIELD OF DREAM ATHLETES. ALSO, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK OVER THE LAST MONTH WE REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT HELP KEITH MARTIN WITH SEVERAL INITIATIVES IN PARTICULAR FIELD OF DREAMS AND ALL OF THEM ARE IN SUPPORT OF KEEPING MARTIN FIELD OF DREAMS. JOHN THRASHER, STATE ATTORNEY -- FORMER COMMISSIONER, DR. BURNS, SHERIFF SURE, CHIEF LEE. CHIEF OF POLICE HARDWICK, MIKE GRUBBS, THE FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE UNITED WAY, BILL DUDLEY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE VETERANS -- RANDY KELLY SCHOOL DISTRICT, LISA HAWKES, DONALD LUEDERS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE SAINT JOHN COUNTY EDUCATION BOARD AND DR. A BOARD THE FORMER FLAGLER COUNTY COLLEGE PRESIDENT. KEITH WAS PERSONAL ABOUT THIS LOGO. YOU CAN SEE INFORMATION ABOUT THE MIRACLE LEAGUE OF VALDOSTA. NOT TOO LONG AGO THEY REACHED OUT TO KATHY PARKER, ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS. THEY WANTED TO REPLICATE OUR FIELD OF DREAMS IN VALDOSTA. KEITH PROVIDED THE BLUEPRINT TO GET UP AND GOING AND JUST RECENTLY VALDOSTA OPENED UP THEIR MIRACLE LEAGUE, WHICH IS A WONDERFUL LEGACY ITEM AS WELL. WE SEE ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS AND HIS VISION BEING TRAVELING THE COAST OF THE UNITED STATES. FINALLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA. THE BOTTOM LINE, FIELD OF DREAMS WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED WITH SO MANY THINGS WITHOUT KEITH MARTIN. AND THERE'S NO FINER WAY TO HONOR SUCH AN EXCEPTIONAL ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME, PLEASE

COME FORWARD.? PUBLIC COMMENT? >> HAS HAD.

>> ROBERT BEWLEY, 83 NOTTAGE HILL STREET ST. JOHN'S FLORIDA 32259. MY LAST NAME IS SPELLED MULEY. I AM THE CA PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR KIDS. WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE. WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING FOR KEITH AND HONOR HIM. I THINK HE'S DONE A LOT OF GREAT THINGS. NOT JUST WITH JCB BUT HE DID A LOT WITH MIDDLE SCHOOL SPORTS. I THINK THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMEWHERE WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT SOMETHING. I'M NOT GOING TO TALK LONG. I HATE DOING THESE THINGS I'M NOT A POLITICIAN GUY. A COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO JUST LEAVE YOU ALL WITH. IN THE SPRING OF 2011, THAT FIELD WAS DEDICATED TO THE CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS. WITH THE FIELD OF DREAMS, PEOPLE ASKED TO HAVE IT LEAVE IT DEDICATED OF HIS KIDS. NOT TO NAME IT ANYBODY, BUT LET'S JUST DEDICATE IT AND KEEP IT DEDICATED TO THOSE KIDS WHERE THOSE KIDS GET A CHANCE TO DO

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ELSE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I'M SORRY. WHAT NAME DID

YOU SAY? NICK. >> NICK MARTIN, THAT IS HIS SON. IT WAS JUST LITERALLY -- I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL.

>> HE HAS A BROTHER NAMED MIKE AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HEARD THE RIGHT NAME. WHO IT

WAS. THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> J MARSHALL, 808 W. IN COURT. I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF NAMING FIELD OF DREAMS WAS KEITH MARTIN'S NAME ASSOCIATED WITH IT. AND I'M JUST GOING TO LET YOU KNOW MY EXPERIENCE WITH KEITH MARTIN, COACH, BEEN ON BOARD WITH THEM. HE WAS PRESIDENT OF CDC BOARD OR GREEKS BASEBALL ASSOCIATION BOARD, CAA, ST. JOHN'S MIDDLE SCHOOL AND BARTON'S BOOSTERS.

I WAS MORE ACTIVE WITH KEITH ON ST. JOHN'S MIDDLE SCHOOL AND BOOSTERS WHILE ALL THIS WAS GOING ON. I WAS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH FIELD OF DREAMS, BUT JUST -- AND I THINK EVERYONE AGREES TO HONOR KEITH MARTIN. HIS WIFE, HE SAID NICK MARTIN, THE SON. I KNOW NICK VERY WELL.

HIS WIFE WANTS THIS DONE. WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY INVOLVED. WE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE IS A CURRENT BOARD. A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS DID NOT KNOW CASE. THEY HAD TO BRING THEM UP TO SPEED ON WHAT WAS GOING ON. AND WE NAME BUILDING, STREETS, AFTER PEOPLE THAT INSPIRE US. I'M NOT GONNA BRING UP ANY NAMES. BUT, THE -- THAT'S WHAT IT IS. KEITH MARTIN INSPIRED ME. HE INSPIRED ME TO HELP HIM DO THINGS. I WAS BASICALLY A GO TO FOR HIM. I DID WHATEVER HE NEEDED DONE. AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER, THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. IT'S ABOUT THE KIDS WHICH WAS MENTIONED. AND THERE ARE SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS INVOLVED AND ARE ALSO KIDS THAT VOLUNTEER TO HELP COACH THE SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS. THEY NEED INSPIRATION. THEY NEED A REASON FOR GOING OUT THERE AND DOING IT WHICH IS THE SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS. WITH HIS NAME UP THERE THEY CAN LOOK AT AN HOW DID THIS START? HOW DID ALL OF THIS REALLY START. IT STARTED BECAUSE SOMEBODY LOVED THE GAME OF BASEBALL AND FELT LIKE THE KIDS, THE SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS NEEDED AN OUTLET TO DO THAT. AND THEIR PARENTS AND THEIR GRANDPARENTS. BUT I'M FOR IT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S A BIG DEAL TO DO IT. IT'S EITHER RIGHT OR IT'S WRONG IN MY OPINION. SO THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. THANKS FOR ALL YOU

DO. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> ANY FURTHER COMMENT? PLEASE COME FORWARD. YES, SIR.

>> THANK YOU FOR LETTING US COME FORWARD TODAY. MY NAME IS MR. SMITH. I LIKE TO RE-ITERATE ON HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE NAMING THE FIELD IN SOME WAY AFTER CASE. I COACHED WHISKEYS, PARTICIPATED WITH KEYS FROM WHEN OUR KIDS WERE YOUNG, 89-YEAR-OLDS -- EIGHT, NINE-YEAR-OLDS, TO HIGH SCHOOL. I WAS INVOLVED IN THE TIME WHEN THIS WAS GOING ON WITH KEITH. WE HAD A TRAVEL TEAM TOGETHER. WE COACHED AGAINST EACH OTHER AND WE COACHED TOGETHER FOR SEVERAL YEARS AFTER THAT. BOTH BASEBALL AND FOOTBALL. I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THAT HIS PASSION WAS FOR THE KIDS. HE WANTED THIS FIELD FOR THE SPECIAL NEEDS IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND TO WATCH HIS IMPACT AND WATCH HIM HOW HE BULLDOG THIS WAY THROUGH RAISING MONEY, GETTING PEOPLE INVOLVED, COMMUNICATING AND MOST OF ALL GETTING THE KIDS

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>> (AWAY FROM MIC). >> THANKS VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. ANY FURTHER COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD? GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M MARTY MCEACHERN. VICE PRESIDENT OF CAA SPORTS. AND ONE THING THAT WE LIKE TO DO, WE'VE BEEN TALKING, WITH THE OTHER PARTY AND IN THE BACK. WE WANT TO ASK YOU GUYS TO ALLOW US TO FURTHER THAT THIS. WE HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN, MYSELF AND ROB HAVE BEEN INVOLVED OVER THE LAST WEEK. ROB HAS BEEN INVOLVED LONGER BUT I GET WIND OF THIS AND I PRESENTED -- WERE REPRESENTED AS LAST WEEK AT THE PARK AND REC ADVISORY BOARD MEETING. WE THINK IT'S A -- FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF BOTH PARTIES FOR US TO VET THIS BECAUSE IF NOT, IF A DECISION IS MADE TODAY WE FEEL LIKE THERE IS GOING TO BE BACKLASH FROM THE PARENTS AND FROM THE STUDENTS AND OTHER SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE INVOLVED IN THIS BECAUSE WE DO ASK A LOT OF KIDS, HIGH SCHOOL KIDS AND ALSO KIDS FROM MY TRACK TEAM AGES FIVE THROUGH 17 TO COME OUT ON SATURDAYS TO ASSIST BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT SOMETIMES WE THINK THAT THE KIDS THAT WE ARE HELPING GETS THE MOST ENJOYMENT OR PASSION FROM THIS, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE ARE IN A SOCIETY KNOW WHAT OUR KIDS NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT COMPASSION IS. TO BE ABLE TO BE AROUND PEOPLE JUST DIFFERENT. I RAN A BUSINESS FOR 10 YEARS FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA OF PALMETTO SUPPORT SERVICES WHERE WE HIRED SOCIAL WORK -- SOCIAL WORKERS. WE HIRED PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. TO SPEND TIME WITH A PERSONAL DISABILITY INTO UNDERSTAND THEIR PLIGHT THEY ARE SPECIAL AND THEN EITHER APART. KEITH AND ALSO PEOPLE FROM CNA HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY OVER THE LAST 10+ YEARS ON THIS PARK AND WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN COME TOGETHER WITH A SOLUTION THAT WILL BENEFIT BOTH PARTIES BECAUSE IF A DECISION IS MADE TODAY, WE THINK IT WILL BE A DECISION ON SOMEBODY'S PART AS WE ASK OF ALL OF YOU TODAY. SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR

DECISION. >> I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO COME BACK AND I'LL ASK YOU A QUESTION. BUT WERE GOING TO KEEP GOING WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT,

PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> HER DID YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. CAN YOU COME FORWARD SO WE CAN MOVE ALONG HERE?

>> THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS CASEY I SPENT -- SAINT AUGUSTINE FLORIDA MATURITY RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS SOME CONTEXT ON THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH PRIOR TO OR RECOMMENDING TO YOU. WE DECIDED THERE WERE TWO ISSUES, A 12 MONTH WAIVER OF THE NAMING POLICY AND THAT THE MEANING ITSELF. THE OPTIONS WERE YES, NO, DEFER, OR RECOMMEND OTHER OPTIONS. WE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY DISCUSSION. THE SCANDAL MADE A PRESENTATION FOR ABOUT 10 MINUTES AND WILL PROBABLY COME IN GUESSING 10 OR 12 PEOPLE WHO SPOKE FOR OR AGAINST THE SPECIFIC NAMING REQUEST AND THEN THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION WITH THE REC BOARD. IT PROBABLY TOOK AN HOUR FOR THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

AND THEN WE VOTED. FOR THE MOTION THAT YOU RECEIVED VIA LETTER. AND JUST A 30,000 FOOT REVIEW OF WHAT OUR THOUGHTS WERE. THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT MR. MARTIN IS WORTHY OF RECOGNITION AND HONOR. FOR WHAT HE DID. THERE'S NO DOUBT. THERE'S ALSO -- IT WAS CLEAR TO US THAT THE 12 MONTH REQUIREMENT FOR NAMING RIGHTS SHOULD BE AND COULD BE WAIVED.

AND BY THE WAY, WE HAD LEGAL COUNSEL IN THE -- REBECCA WAS WITH US IN THAT MEETING. WE DID GET -- I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD PUSHBACK, BUT CONCERN. OF WHAT OUR BOARD FELT STRONGLY ABOUT, I BELIEVE IS THAT IT WAS WORTHY OF DIFFERING BECAUSE OF THE VERY SHORT

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>> THANK YOU, SIR. >>> ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> WILL GIVE YOU AN ADDITIONAL 30 SECONDS, SIR.

>> THE ONLY REASON I CAME UP WAS THAT HE SMARTSOUNDS SAID THAT HE WAS NOT PAPER. I JUST TEXTED MCMARTIN AND ASKED HIM IF THAT WAS TRUE AND YOU CAN SEE MY PHONE IF YOU AND HE SAID NO. THAT'S NOT TRUE. HE WANTS THE NAME AFTER HIS DAD. SO I JUST -- IF YOU WANT TO SEE A.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> AND WHAT WE CAN DO IS IF HE COULD POSSIBLY TAKE A SNAPSHOT OF DATA MAY BE EMAIL THAT INTO THE COUNTY JUST FOR THE RECORD,

IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. >> ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME IF THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS MATTER, WE WILL CLOSE COMMENT.

>> COMMISSIONERS USE A JURY QUESTION.

>> I DID, WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE CHART LIKE THE TWO GENTLEMEN FROM CREEKSIDE I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO COME BACK UP, PLEASE.

>> YOU MIND IF I ASKED HIM A FEW QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU WILL, PLEASE, COME UP HERE TO THE PODIUM. FIRST OF ALL, WHAT YOU -- TO THANK YOU FOR COMING. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING TIME FROM YOUR SCHEDULES TO COME HERE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO PUT THIS IN CONTEXT, I'VE RECEIVED EASILY OVER 100 EMAILS SUPPORTING THIS NAMING THE FIELD FROM MANY STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT. PART OF OUR JOB IS TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY IN SUPPORT BUT BOTH OF YOU ALL RAISED CONCERNS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND AND ELABORATE ON THIS. I DON'T WANT TO MISQUOTE YOU BUT YOU POINTED OUT THAT THIS PRIMITIVE FROM THE CONTEXT OF THIS WAS IMPORTANT TO DISABLED CHILDREN YOU HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE DISABLED. I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT HELP ME UNDERSTAND JUST FROM AN OBJECTIVE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION. HELP ME -- HOW WOULD OUT -- NAMING THIS FOR MR. MARTIN CAN YOU OUTLINE HOW THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THE CHILDREN? CAN

YOU GIVE ME MORE PERSPECTIVE. >> ABSOLUTELY. NAMING IT AFTER SOMEONE FIRST BALL WOULD TAKE THE ATTENTION AWAY FROM THE KIDS BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO BE -- IS CAN BE NAMED AFTER THE COACH. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN 30 YEARS -- WE'VE ALL BEEN.

WE'VE ALL DONE A LOT OF WORK WE HAD GREAT IDEAS. THIS PROJECT STARTED IN 2010 AND THE COACH WAS INVOLVED AT THE BEGINNING, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF WORK THAT WAS DONE BETWEEN 2010 AND

2020. >> WHO ARE YOU REFERRING TO

WHEN YOU SAY COACH? >> KEITH MARTIN.

>> KEITH MARTIN. OKAY. WHEN YOU SAY COACH WANT TO MAKE SURE.

>> OKAY. >> AND IF I MAY, THROUGH THE CHAIR OF OUR GENTLEMEN WOULD SPEAK INTO THE MIC SO WE CAN PICK IT UP.

>> IS A BETTER ACCESS. >> A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE.

HE HAD THE IDEA. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THE FOCUS AWAY FROM THE KIDS AND MORE PUT ON THE WORK OF EVERYONE ELSE AROUND IT WHO HAS DONE WORK WITH THIS PROJECT. WHO ELSE ARE WE GOING TO HONOR IN THIS PROJECT AS FAR AS -- OTHER THAN THE KIDS? BECAUSE LIKE I SAID THE COACH STARTED THE IDEA, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT INFORMATION THAT HE WASN'T THE ONLY ONE THAT HAD THE IDEA. HE WASN'T THE ORIGINATOR OF THE IDEA. SO WE'VE GOT INFORMATION ALSO FOR BOTH PARTIES. SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS A CHANCE TO READ IT AND FIND OUT EXACTLY

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>> FIELD OF DREAMS AND KEITH MOUNTAIN -- KEITH MARTIN YOU FEEL THAT WOULD DISTRACT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY WANT KEITH MARTIN TO BE HONORED SO WHAT ALTERNATIVE WOULD YOU OFFER? ONE OF THE FIELD OR WHATEVER WAY TO HONOR MR. MARTIN. BECAUSE CLEARLY FROM THE CONSTITUENTS I'M HEARING FROM THEY WANT THEM HONORED SOME WAY I BELIEVE BOTH YOU MENTIONED HE SHOULD BE HONORED AS WELL. WHAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE? WHAT WOULD YOU PROPOSE.

>> WELL, I MEAN, WITH DUE RESPECT, IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD FROM CAA STANDPOINT IS THAT BILL NAMING SHOULD BE DONE. WE SHOULD BE NAMING FIELDS AFTER ANYONE WE SHOULD BE EITHER DOING BENCHES OR A TREE. I DON'T THINK A BENCH IS A TREE FOR ANYTHING THAT WE SHOULD DO FOR MR. MARTIN. FOR KEITH. I THINK HE SAID A LOT OF THINGS. WE CAN LOOK AT FIELDS, YOU KNOW. I MEAN HE'S BEEN GREAT FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL BUT THERE'S NOTHING THEY ARE -- MIDDLE SCHOOL -- I THINK WE GOT TO SCRATCH THAT IDEA. WE ARE TALKING TO DOUG.

>> 'SOR IF WE BRING UP --'S ARE ACTIVELY.

>> DOUG BROUGHT UP AN IDEA THAT I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT. UNTIL HE BROUGHT IT UP.

>> THIS IS AN THE BOSTON MEMORIAL WALL.

>> I WOULD LIKE US TO DO A MEMORIAL WALL THAT RECOGNIZES EVERYBODY WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THE FIELD OF DREAMS. EVERYBODY. BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT -- IT WASN'T JUST KEITH'S IDEA OR TROY'S IDEA OR DAVE LEAVY OR GEORGE, OR YOU KNOW, FISHER JONES. WHO HAD TO DO STUFF WITH US OR ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY. WERE ALL INVOLVED WITH THESE KIDS. I'M PRESIDENT OF C AAF HELP RAISE MONEY FOR THEM, TOO. SO LET'S RECOGNIZE EVERYBODY AND PUT A WALL -- A MEMORIAL WALL THAT RECOGNIZES EVERYBODY AND GIVE EVERYBODY THE DUE PROCESS OF BEING RECOGNIZED EITHER THEY ARE -- THE PLAYGROUND WILL BE DONE. SOMETHING THAT RECOGNIZES EVERYBODY'S EFFORTS. NOT JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL. THAT FIELD IS DEDICATED TO THOSE KIDS. WE JUST STRONGLY FIELD -- FEEL THAT THAT FIELD SHOULD NEVER BE NAMED BY ANYBODY AND ACTUALLY, WHAT I'D LOVE TO HEAR PASSES SEVERAL THAT SAYS THAT THEY'LL BE LEFT ALONE NEVER BE NAMED AFTER ANYBODY. MATTER FACT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD THAT ONE TIME THAT WAS WHAT WAS PASSED ON TO US THAT THAT FIELD WOULD NEVER BE NAMED FOR ANYBODY. I LIKE THE FIELD JUST TO BE LEFT ALONE AND NOT BE NAMED BUT LET'S RECOGNIZE THE PEOPLE AND THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS OF WHAT

THEY'VE DONE. >> CAN I ADD TWO THINGS TO THE

WALL? >> I THINK THAT THAT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA BECAUSE NOW -- AT WHAT POINT DO YOU STOP NAMING FIELDS AFTER FOLKS? ON TOP OF THAT, WE ARE IN A MESS RIGHT NOW WITH THIS AND GOING FORWARD, WHO SAYS THAT HE GETS THE FIELD AND I DON'T. I PUT IN JUST AS MUCH WORK AS HE HAD. SO I THINK THIS WALL WILL GIVE US A CHANCE TO NOT ONLY CREATE A HUGE MEMORIAL WALL LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT. NOW YOU CAN DEDICATE ANYONE WHO'S DONE ANY HARD WORK TO A PARTICULAR WALL INSTEAD OF APPEAL BECAUSE THE ARGUMENT IS GOING TO COME IN AT ONE POINT YOU STOP NAMING FIELDS? I'M JUST SAYING I

THINK IT GIVES US AN OPTION. >> I APPRECIATE YOU ALL. THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS WE'VE HEARD FROM SENATOR JOHN THRASHER, THE SHERIFF, THE POLICE CHIEF, STAKEHOLDERS, STATE ATTORNEY WE'VE HEARD FROM MULTIPLE MOMS AND DADS SAYING WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE HIS CONTRIBUTION. SO THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP AND GIVEN US THIS THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO DIALOGUE AND I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE UNLESS

ANYONE ELSE? >> THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. IS

THAT IT, COMMISSIONER ACCESS. >> MRS. KENDALL, JUST A QUICK

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SPOT? >> MY -- KIND OF THE WAY I'M FEELING AS WE GO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD ALLOW TIME FOR THEM TO WORK IT OUT. I THINK MR. MARTIN DID A LOT OF GREAT WORK, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE VETTED BY THE PEOPLE INVOLVED, THE GREEKS ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION, THE FIELD OF DREAM BOARD THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE OF THE FIELD OF DREAMS AND COMMISSIONER BLOCKER I UNDERSTAND. THESE ARE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WERE BOXED IN A QUARTER, WE CAN'T WIN NO MATTER WHAT WE DO. IT'S UNFORTUNATE. BUT WERE NOT SITUATION SOMETIMES. BUT SOMETIMES WE HEAR FROM OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS -- WILL HAVE TO DO WHAT WE THINK IS RIGHT.

IT IS NO RESPECTDISRESPECT TO THE MARTINS FAMILY. YOU KNOW, AS A -- CASEY MAI TAI OR OTHER PEOPLE THAT A BEDROOM MY DAD WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN PARKS AND RECREATION AND THIS COUNTY STARTING IN THE 70S. AND HELPED BUILD TREATY PARK IN THE TOWER FIELD. YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOVE YOU HAVE A FEW COACH. I'VE COACHED FOR 16 YEARS IT'S SOMETHING I DO. AND YOU KNOW, BUT IS SOMETHING YOU DO FOR THE KIDS. YOU'RE NOT DOING IT TO HAVE YOUR NAME ON SOMETHING.

IN THIS CASE THE WALL MAY BEHAVE GREAT IDEA TO HAVE A MEMORIAL WALL FOR EVERYONE THAT'S BEEN IN THE FIELD AND PROBABLY THE WAY TO START WOULD BE THE KEYS MARTIN MEMORIAL WALL FOR THE FIELD OF DREAMS. AND IT'S JUST HARD TO CLOUD UP THE NAME A LITTLE BIT. BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE GROUPS WORK IT OUT TOGETHER THEY COULD BRING A BACKUP A COMPROMISE OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE APPEALING TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED. BECAUSE WE'VE HAD EMAILS BOTH WAYS. WE'VE HAD PEOPLE YOU KNOW, VERY -- WHEN YOU DEAL WITH FAMILY, JUST LIKE DEALING WITH KIDS. IT'S HARD IN A TOUCHY SITUATION. AND THEN SOMETIMES I ADMIRE OUR SCHOOL BOARD. I WOULDN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH KIDS ISSUES EVERY DAY, THAT KIND OF STUFF.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC). >> MRS. KENDALL IF YOU COULD COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE. WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE IT IN OUR --

>> I WOULD LIKE DIRECTION BECAUSE WE BEEN TRYING FOR OVER A MONTH. WE STARTED WITH CAM TRYING TO GET SOME SORT OF AGREEMENTS AND LIKE I SAID WE REACHED OUT TO SO MANY OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS EVERYBODY ELSE -- I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE 24 AND A GRANDSON ONE NOT. I WILL OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS SET THE RULES AND WILL DO WHATEVER, BUT IF WE STILL HAVE THIS STALEMATE THAT WE HAVE CONTINUED TO RUN INTO, CONTINUALLY CALLING AND EMAILING AND TRYING TO WORK SOMETHING OUT IF WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS STALEMATE.

>> I DON'T KNOW WITH US, THE HARD THING I DON'T KNOW IF ATHLETICS IS CAN HAVE MEETINGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WITH THE VIRUS, IF YOU DON'T MIND COMMISSIONER IF YOU'D LIKE TO

COME UP? >> THAT'S WHAT I THINK WERE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THIS IS WHY IT NEEDS TO BE VETTED AMONGST THE PARTIES.

>> WE BEEN TRYING. >> IF YOU COULD TALK AFTER THIS, THIS MAY PASS AT THIS POINT. AND YOU KNOW, THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME ANTAGONISM HERE THAT IS DEFTLY COMING OVER TO THE BOARD AND ITS MEMBERS. I WANT THAT TO STOP RIGHT NOW.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TALK BEFORE YOU LEAVE THESE PREMISES AND WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE

BOARD VOTED A MOMENT AS WELL. >> I PULLED TO THE BACK AND WE TALKED FOR ANOTHER HOUR AS WELL ON YOUR TALKING. WE ARE TRYING. WE ARE TRYING 100 PERCENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT ABOUT PANY OF US.

>> I JUST WAS ASKING FOR DIRECTION. IF WE CAN GET THIS ONE -- IF ALL OF US CAN'T COME ON BOARD TOGETHER NOTHING HAPPENS. AT SOME POINT WILL IT COME BACK TO YOU GUYS TO BE OUR

FINAL MODERATOR IF YOU WILL. >> AT THIS POINT AM HOPEFUL THAT YOU BE ABLE TO WORK SOMETHING OUT.

>> YES, SIR. THANK YOU. >> I WANT TO MOVE ON WITH THIS.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

>> NO. >> COMMISSIONER?

>>. >> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> MY MIKE IS ON, ISN'T IT? >> SINCE WE ARE TALKING

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>> RIGHT. >> OUT YEARS. AND SO, I CAME HERE TODAY PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION TO NAME FIELD OF DREAMS PARK IN HONOR OF KEITH MARTIN.

AND ODDLY ENOUGH, OR COINCIDENTLY, I DIDN'T SPEND ANY TIME WITH HIM WHEN HE WAS DOING ALL OF THIS HARD WORK AND HE GAVE BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS TO THIS COUNTY AND I WASN'T EVEN AWARE OF IT. BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IN 1978, HE AND I ATTENDED THE MARRIAGE OF HIS SISTER AND MY BEST FRIEND IN TALLAHASSEE. I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU BECAUSE I DID NOT WANT SOMEONE TO SAY WHILE HENRY KNEW SOMEBODY -- BUT SHEILA, HIS SISTER, SHEILA MARTIN, BEFORE SHE GOT MARRIED, I KNOW HER PRETTY WELL. I'VE KNOWN HER FOR 45 YEARS WHEN JOHN STARTED DATING HER 1975. AND I KNOW HOW SHE FEELS ABOUT KEITH MARTIN I KNOW THAT HE DID NOT GIVE A DARN WHETHER THIS FIELD WAS GOING TO BE NAMED AFTER HIM. I DOUBT IT WAS EVER DISCUSSED WITH THEM. SO, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE. I THINK HE GAVE BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I WAS PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. BUT IN RESPECT OF NOT ONLY A RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD AND COMMISSIONER WALDRON, WHO SERVES ON THE BOARD, I WANT TO DEFER TO HIS JUDGMENT A RECOMMENDATION EVEN THOUGH I WAS PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION.

I THINK THAT THEY RAISE GOOD POINTS AS YOU DID MR. CHAIRMAN THAT THIS COULD BE VETTED A LITTLE BETTER. WE HAVE TWO COMPETING SIGNS HERE. I FEEL STRONGLY BOTH WAYS.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER DEAN. MR. WALDRON?

>> YES, SIR. I FEEL THE SAME WAY, COMMISSIONER DEAN. JUST A QUICK NOD FROM CREEKS ATHLETICS COULD YOU GET WITH THEM AND GET THIS WORKED OUT WITHIN 30 DAYS SO WE COULD -- WE COULD DIFFER BACK AND COME BACK IN 30 DAYS IF WE CONTINUE IT. THAT'S UP TO THE CHAIRMAN. IT'S NOT MY

CALL. >> I WANTED TO GO BACK -- HAVE THE RECREATIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL HERE THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO HEAR IT AMONGST THE COMMUNITIES THAT DO THAT. SO WE DON'T DO IT ON THE FLOOR HERE. BUT THAT'S MY OPINION.

>> OKAY. IS IT OKAY TO GO BACK TO THE PARKING REEXPORTED COME BACK UP?

>> THE PARTIES AGREE THAT? >> ALL RIGHT. THAT'S FINE WITH

ME. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD FOR MR. WALDRON MR. CHAIRMAN IS WHEN YOU COME BACK, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME CONCRETE ALTERNATIVES TO THIS AS WELL. SO WE AS A BOARD CAN MAKE A DECISION. IF IS NOT RENAMING THE FIELD, PLEASE GIVE US AN ALTERNATIVE HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT JUST A BENCH, BUT THE WALL IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO, SURE, I DO WANT TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD, CONSIDER. THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST SINCE THERE IS A MEMORIAL SERVICE, MAYBE WE, AS A BOARD, IF THERE IS A CONSENSUS SHOW A PROCLAMATION AS WELL AS ADDITION TO RECOGNIZING THE EFFORTS OF THE GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS OF MR. MARTIN MAYBE THAT COULD BE PRESENTED TO THE FAMILY SIGNED BUT THE CHAIRMAN PRESENTED TO THE FAMILY AT A MEMORIAL SERVICE NOT AS AN ALTERNATIVE, BUT JUST AN ADDITIONAL RECOGNITION AND HOPEFULLY WILL WAIT FOR THE PARTIES -- ALL OF YOU CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. ALL OF YOU ARE INVESTING A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY. I'M CONFIDENT, AS IS THE BOARD THAT YOU CAN COME TO A SOLUTION AND PRESENT US WITH OPTIONS HERE.

SO. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

MR. JOHNSON? >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER READ MY MIND WHEN HE CAME TO A PROCLAMATION TO BE TIMELY, WITH THE PRECAUTIONS OF THE VIRUS SLOWING DOWN THE PROGRESS OF NOT JUST BUSINESSES, BUT GOVERNMENT AS WELL AND UNDERSTANDABLY, WE WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE SEPARATED. THIS NEEDS A CONSENSUS AND IT CLEARLY DOESN'T HAPPEN AT THIS TIME, WHICH PROBABLY EMPHASIZES THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION IN OUR CODE FOR A 12 MONTH WAITING PERIOD. THE MAN CLEARLY DESERVES RECOGNITION AS TO OTHERS AND TIMELINESS IS IMPORTANT. BUT COMMUNICATION TRUMPS ALL OF THAT. EVERYBODY

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A NUMBING CONSENSUS WITH GOING IN THAT DIRECTION. I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

>> WITH THE THOUGHT OF THE PROCLAMATION, CANNOT BE DONE WITHOUT THE FULL VOTE OF THE

BOARD? >> MR. CHAIR, THINKING OF THAT SINCE I JUST WAS RAISED. I BELIEVE THE BOARD COULD AUTHORIZE THE CHAIR TO SIGN A PROCLAMATION AS DEVELOPED BY YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF IN THAT AS A FORMALITY, I THINK IT COULD BE RATIFIED, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT CONSENT AGENDA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK

IT'S DOABLE THAT WAY MR. CHAIR. >> THANK YOU.

>> YOU HAVE A MOTION, COMMISSIONER WALDRON ARE YOU MOVING TO TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION -- ARE YOU MOVING TO TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PARKS AND REC BOARD AND THEN GO WITH A PROCLAMATION.

>>>. >> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER

BLOCKER. ANY OTHER CONDITIONS. >> THANK THE PARTIES FOR COMING. I HOPE YOU ARE ABLE TO WORK THIS OUT. WAS NOWHERE THE DISCUSSION COMING BEFORE THE BOARD IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, VOTE. AND IT PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

>> IT'S 12:37 PM. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO -- I KNOW WE'VE GOT TWO MORE AGENDA ITEMS, BUT I THINK THIS BOARD NEEDS -- IS GOING TO NEED A BREAK. LET'S BREAK UNTIL 1:15 PM AND WE WILL RECESS UNTIL 115.

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>> TO DECLARING A STATE OF LOCAL EMERGENCY AS PROVIDED BY CHAPTER 252 FLORIDA STATUTES.

BECAUSE OF THE COVID-19 SITUATION.

AND BEFORE THE BOARD WOULD CONSIDER WHETHER TO APPROVE THIS, I BELIEVE MS. STONE IS GOING TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND AND SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE ON THE EMERGENCY AND THEN ADMINISTRATION WELL GIVE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD AS TO WHETHER TO APPROVE THE

EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. ON DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I'M HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY TO TALK ABOUT COVID-19. THERE IS A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY RELATED TO COVID-19. STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN MONITORING AND RESPONDING TO THIS PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY SINCE RIGHT AROUND JANUARY 20. AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THE MONTHS AND WEEKS, WE HAVE SEEN EXECUTIVE ORDERS COME DOWN FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, GIVING DIRECTION TO OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES ON HOW TO RESPOND TO THIS CRISIS. ST. JOHNS COUNTY'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN PARTICIPATING IN CALLS WORKING WITH OUR AGENCIES AND PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICERS TO PROVIDE THE RECOMMENDED INFORMATION FROM THE CDC AND FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS EVENT. I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY. IT IS SIMILAR TO THE LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY SO WE DECLARE DURING ANY TYPE OF SEVERE WEATHER, WILDFIRE OR FLOODING INCIDENT. THIS HELPS UPSON TO NECESSARY SUPPLIES.

IT BETTER ENABLES THE COUNTY -- YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE COUNTY -- IT IS COUNTYWIDE, FOR

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QUESTIONS. >> IF WE COULD BRING THE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION UP ON THE SCREEN? AND LINDA, COULD YOU PULL THAT DOWN A BIT ON THE OVERHEAD, THE OVERHEAD OVER HERE. SO, COMMISSIONERS, EACH OF YOU HAVE BEEN FAMILIAR WITH THE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION IN A DIFFERENT CONTEXT, TROPICAL STORM OR HURRICANE. THIS IS A SIMILAR FORMAT. WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS ALLOWS THE COUNTY TO EXERCISE ITS EMERGENCY POWERS UNDER CHAPTER 252 AND ORDINANCE 19-40. THIS PROCLAMATION SETS OUT A SERIES OF WHEREAS CLAUSES, WHICH WILL -- IF APPROVED BY THE BOARD WILL BE LEGISLATIVE FINDINGS, BUT THEY -- THEY GO TO, I THINK, THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE ISSUES THAT MS. STONE HAS DESCRIBED. AND THERE IS AN ELEMENT -- AND I'LL READ IT. IT'S ACTUALLY FURTHER DOWN THAN

WHAT IS ON THE SCREEN. >> JUST GO AHEAD AND READ THE WHOLE THING IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, PATRICK.

>> OKAY. SURE. EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION NUMBER 2020 AND I BELIEVE THIS WILL BE ÃONE IF APPROVED. PROCLAMATION DECLARING THE STATE OF LOCAL EMERGENCY IS PROVIDED BY PART ONE CHAPTER 252 FLORIDA STATUTES AND I ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA ORDINANCE NUMBER 19 Ã 40. WHEREAS IT IS NECESSARY TO DECLARE A LOCAL PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTES. ST. JOHNS COUNTY ORDINANCE 19-Ã40 BECAUSE OF THE THREAT OF THE CORONAVIRUS DISEASE 2019 PAREN COVID-19 TO SPREAD AMONG HUMANS WHICH MAY POSE A THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND CAUSE A THREAT TO THE ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA INCLUDING ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

WHEREAS THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION HAS DECLARED A PANDEMIC LADY TO COVID-19 WHEREAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY FOR THE COUNTRY TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC HEALTH THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AS A RESULT OF COVID-19 AND THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS ISSUED EXECUTIVE ORDER NUMBER 20 Ã51 DECLARING A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND WHEREAS THE GOVERNOR HAS ISSUED EXECUTIVE ORDER 20 Ã52 PROCEDURES AND FORMAT IS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW FOR POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH PROVISIONS OF SECTION 250 2.38 FLORIDA STATUTES AND WHEREAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH AND FOR THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE INTO EACH OF THE OTHER ST. JOHNS COUNTY CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS HAVE BEGUN AS OF MARCH 1, 2020 IMPLEMENTING PREPARATIONS TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC HEALTH THREAT AND WHEREAS THE EMERGENCY MAY BECOME BEYOND THE CAPABILITY OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO EFFECTIVELY RESPOND UNDER NORMAL PROCEDURES AND WHEREAS CERTAIN ADDITIONAL SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT, MATERIALS AND PERSONNEL MAY BE REQUIRED TO ASSIST IN TREATMENT AND TAKE PROTECTIVE ACTION WITH REGARD TO LIFE AND HEALTH AND WHEREAS ST. JOHNS COUNTY MAY REQUEST ASSISTANCE FROM THE STATE AND/OR MAY IMPLEMENT LOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS PERTAINING TO EMERGENCIES AND WHEREAS IN LIGHT OF THE POTENTIAL SUBSTANTIAL ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE EMERGENCY ST. JOHNS COUNTY SUPPORTS STATE AND FEDERAL

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JOHNS COUNTY ORDINANCE NUMBER 19-40, ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN, THE PLAN IS HEREBY ACTIVATED AND THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SHALL HAVE THE POWER, AUTHORITY AND DUTY TO TAKE ANY AND ALL ACTION UNDER THE PLAN NECESSARY FOR THE PRESERVATION OF THE HEALTH, WELFARE AND SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY DONE AND ORDERED THIS SEVENTH DAY OF MARCH 2020. NOW, AS THE COMMISSIONERS ARE AWARE, THE LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY HAS A SEVEN-DAY SHELF LIFE AND SO SHOULD THE BOARD APPROVED AS EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION, IT PWOULD BE EFFECTIVE FOR SEVEN DAYS, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT A SPECIAL MEETING WOULD BE NECESSARY TO EXTEND IT AND BASICALLY SEVEN DAYS FROM TODAY. AND THEN AS THE BOARD KNOWS -- CHECKING THE CALENDAR, THIS IS GOING TO BE A THREE WEEK INTERVAL BEFORE YOUR NEXT REGULAR BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER INSTEAD OF A TWO WEEK INTERVAL. SO SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED AND EXTENDED, PROBABLY HAVE TO BE EXTENDED A SECOND TIME BEFORE YOUR FIRST REGULAR APRIL MEETING. IF THE BOARD DOES APPROVE THIS PROCLAMATION, IT DOES AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ISSUE ORDERS UNDER CHAPTER 250 2.46, WHICH, WHEN ISSUED, THE EFFECT OF LAW. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, PATRICK. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR DOCKET? COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> (AWAY FROM MIC). >> COMMISSIONER, THAT IS BY STATUTE AND I WILL TELL YOU THERE'S BEEN SOME CHATTER BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND ATTORNEYS TO HAVE THE STATE RELAX AT SEVEN-DAY INCREMENT. THAT IS

BY STATUTE RIGHT NOW. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. THAT'S TOO SHORT. IT IS. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> PATRICK, BASED ON THE SEVEN DAYS, WHAT WILL BE YOUR THOUGHTS OF THE BOARD DECIDED TO GO TO A TELEPHONIC -- HOW WOULD THAT WORK? AS FAR AS AS IF WE HAD TO, FOR WHATEVER REASON DO IT THAT WAY? IS THAT AN OPTION? IS THAT.

>> COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THAT. IS IT A POSSIBILITY AS WE CONSIDER.

>> IF I MAY? THROUGH THE CHAIR, THE ISSUE OF TELEPHONIC MEETINGS, BOTH FOR EMERGENCY MEETING FOR EXAMPLE TO EXTEND DAY LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY, AND OTHER MEETINGS, THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED AROUND THE STATE. IT IS MY OPINION THAT THAT MEETINGS DONE TELEPHONICALLY, AS YOU KNOW, RECENTLY WE HAVE HAD A COUNTY COMMISSIONER IN SERVICE OF OUR COUNTRY HAD APPEARED TELEPHONICALLY. IT IS MY OPINION THAT THAT CAN BE DONE.

THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE OUT THERE ABOUT HAVING A HYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT TO MAKE IT AN EFFECTIVE MEETING AND IF THERE'S A PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT, THEN YOU KNOW, THE

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THAT COULD POTENTIALLY EITHER BE DONE THROUGH AN EMERGENCY ORDER, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND PROBABLY, FOR ANY ACTION TAKEN UNDER -- WE WOULD HAVE BACKUP MECHANISM, JUST TO MAKE SURE IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE. I HOPE I'VE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

>> THANK YOU. >> 'SOR ANY OTHER UPDATE NECESSARY FOR US TO NOTE TODAY?

>> SO JUST PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL HERE AT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, THE GOVERNOR DID HOLD A PRESS CONFERENCE AT 10:30 AM ON THE STATE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HELD A CONFERENCE CALL WITH DOLLAR AGENCIES. THREE KEY POINTS CAME OUT OF BOTH OF THOSE CONFERENCE CALLS. FIRST IS AN EMERGENCY ORDER THAT WILL CLOSE BARS AND NIGHTCLUBS STARTING TONIGHT T 5 PM. WE ARE WAITING FOR THE EXECUTIVE ORDER LANGUAGE TO COME DOWN. SO AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT, WE WILL GET IT'S LEGAL AND I'M SURE THEY'LL RECEIVE IT AT THE SAME TIME. THE SECOND ONE GOES TO RESTAURANTS WILL GO TO A 50 PERCENT CAPACITY USING THE CDC GUIDELINES OF SIX FEET UNDER BE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT RESTAURANT OWNERS WILL HAVE TO SCREEN THEIR EMPLOYEES. FOUR SYMPTOMS. HOW THAT LOOKS RIGHT NOW I DO NOT KNOW BUT FURTHER LANGUAGE WILL COME DOWN AS TO WHAT THEY EXPECT THAT SCREENING TO LOOK LIKE. THE THIRD ONE HAS TO DO WITH -- AND THESE ARE ALL THREE STATEWIDE EMERGENCY ORDERS. THE THIRD ONE HAS TO DO WITH ALL BEACHES. THE BEACHES WILL NOT BE CLOSED BUT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER WILL STAY 10 PEOPLE OR LESS IN THE SAME AREA. THAT IS THE LATEST WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> JUST A QUESTION FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT HOW IS THIS CAN BE ENFORCED HIS FIRST 10 PEOPLE ON THE BEACH RESTAURANTS AT 50 PERCENT CAPACITY. I DID ASK THIS QUESTION TO PRIVATELY BUT

I THINK YOU. >> SO I THINK THE AUTHORS -- BURSTING SHOULD BE WE NEED TO HAVE THE EXECUTIVE ORDER TO SEE WHAT ARE INCLUDED IN IT.

QUESTIONS WERE ASKED AS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OURS AND RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE BARS INSIDE. WERE LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION THERE. AS THE ENFORCEMENT WILL HAVE THE DISCUSSION WITH OTHER AGENCIES THAT WILL BE TASKED WITH ENFORCING THIS ON A LOCAL LEVEL. SO THOSE DISCUSSIONS WILL CONTINUE THIS AFTERNOON AND INTO TOMORROW MORNING ON WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE. WITHOUT THE DETAILS IN FRONT OF US, I THINK THAT IS A HARD EXPLANATION FOR ME AT THIS TIME.

>> ON LOOKING AT HER COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, IF WE COULD IS OUR RECOMMENDATION I BELIEVE THERE'S A MEETING ON THURSDAY COMMISSARY RECOMMENDATION AND WE NEED TO HAVE THESE COMMITTEES AND OTHER BOARD MEETINGS -- UNLESS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY? I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CHOSE TO THE MEETINGS BUT I THINK IN LIGHT OF WHAT OCCURRED TODAY DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.

>> CITY CHAIR COMMISSIONER MY RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT'S STILL IN YOUR HANDS IS FOR YOU ALL TO -- BEFORE THAT AUTHORITY IS VESTED IN EITHER THE POWER THAT YOU MAY POTENTIALLY GIVE ME, WOULD BE TO FOR YOU ALL TO DISCUSS IT TO KEEP SOME DIRECTION.

THERE'S ONE AREA I CAN TAKE BEFORE AN ORDER IS IN PLACE. YOU CAN PROVIDE DIRECTION. BUT I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO THE BOARD AT THIS POINT. AND THEN TAKING IT DAY BY DAY FOR ASKING ME WHAT SHOULD WE DO, THINK IT'S A DAILY MONITORING TO MAKE A DECISION OF WHEN DO WE NEED TO MAKE THAT THRESHOLD. AS A MORE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED,

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WELL. >> IN LIGHT OF THAT MR. CHAIRMAN -- I THINK MY CONCERN WOULD BE IF WE HAVE THESE BOARDS AND COMMITTEE MEETINGS MIGHT HAVE INDIVIDUALS OR THAT WOULD HAVE DIFFICULTY EITHER CHILDCARE RIGHT NOW BASED ON SCHOOL CLOSING. WE WANT TO PUT PEOPLE THAT MAY BE MORE VULNERABLE IN A VULNERABLE CATEGORY. I'M TRYING TO THINK AGAIN WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE BUSINESSES. DO WE HAVE WATER FROM THE GOVERNMENT TO DO THAT, SO, I'LL PUT IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN, WELL, HEARKEN BACK TO SMITH'S COMMENT SHE WAS VERY GRATEFUL THAT WE DID NOT CLOSE SHOP AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY MEET IN THIS AUDITORIUM THE CHAIRMAN COULD BASICALLY ASK EVERYONE TO MAINTAIN AN EIGHT OR 10 FOOT -- WE GOT PLENTY OF ROOM IN THIS ROOM FOR THE ONES I'VE ATTENDED. AND WE JUST NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS AND SMART. BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE COMING IN FRONT OF THE -- APPLICANTS THAT NEED ACTION TO MOVE AHEAD. WERE DEALING WITH THE ECONOMY THAT'S GOING INTO THE TANK. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF A BALANCE WHERE WE COULD ASK PEOPLE TO KEEP A SOCIAL DISTANCE AND STILL GO FORWARD WITH MEETINGS THAT WE KNOW WERE NOT CAN HAVE 2000 PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM ARE GOING TO HAVE 50.

AND THEY COULD SPREAD OUT. THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHY BROUGHT IT UP. ARE THESE MEETINGS STILL GONNA GO ON.

>> AND I DID MEET WITH YOU IN A BAD SPOT. BECAUSE I -- KNOWING THAT, I WANT FOLKS TO KNOW THAT THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ARE PUTTING MANDATES UPON US THAT WE ARE GOING TO -- WE ARE HAVING TO YIELD TO AND ARE GOING TO COST MONEY GET RID HAVE REDUCED REVENUE IN OUR STATE IN ANY COUNTY AS A RESULT OF SOME OF THESE ACTIONS. WHAT'S DETRIMENTAL TO ME SEEING HOW FAR-REACHING THIS IS IMPORTANT UNABLE TO FORECASTED. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO LEGITIMATELY AND REALLY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN. AND IF YOU BEGIN TO LIMIT THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS, THAT'S A HUGE THING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR BOTTOM LINE ON SALES TAX. IT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR PEOPLE AND YOUR NEIGHBORS AND SOME FAMILY MEMBERS SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY THAT REVENUE -- THERE AN AVERAGE JOB TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES. AND THIS IS GETTING -- THIS IS GETTING WAY -- MS. SMITH MENTIONED A WHILE AGO COMMISSIONER DEAN SAID I'M GLAD YOU'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

WE NEED TO CONDUCT BUSINESS TO AT LEAST GIVE SOME KIND OF LEVEL OF SANITY TO FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN SO DRAMATICALLY RADICALLY INTERRUPTED. I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE AS LONG AS WE CAN TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE BUSINESS BEING CONDUCTED IN THIS COUNTY WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF DISRUPTION AS POSSIBLE I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE FOR US TO DO. I SEE -- JUST A SECOND, PATRICK. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS IS HAPPENING AND IS NOT JUST HERE. WE ARE HAVING TO MAKE DECISIONS BECAUSE WHAT IS BEING PUT UPON US. AND THESE EXECUTIVE ORDER ACTIONS WILL PROBABLY EXPAND IN THE NEXT EMERGENCY DECLARATION, BUT I WANTED US TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS ANOTHER LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT AND MANDATE COMING DOWN FROM THE STATE THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AS WELL THAT'S A VERY HEAVYWEIGHT.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. FOR A MOMENT I'D LIKE TO SPEAK NOT AS YOUR LEGAL ADVISOR, BUT AS A COUNSELOR, AS THE FLORIDA BAR SAYS I CAN DO. AND THAT IS, I THINK THERE ARE VERY PRACTICAL TYPE THINGS. I LOOK AT THE FIVE OF YOU THERE. YOU ARE PROPERLY SPACED OUT, SIX FEET

APART OR MORE. >> DID YOU SAY WERE SPACED OUT?

>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID, COMMISSIONER (LAUGHING).

>> I KNOW YOU JUST HAD LUNCH. >> WERE A LITTLE CLOSE HERE AS THE -- AS OUR ADMIN IS. ON THE OTHER HAND WE WORK DAILY TOGETHER. IT'S ALMOST KIND OF LIKE A WORK-FAMILY SO THERE'S THAT. I'M TAKING VERY PRACTICAL THINGS. I NOTICE ALREADY ADMINISTRATION HAS PUT UP AND SANITIZERS ENTERING THIS ROOM. I DID NOTE, TOO, JUSTIN LEE, KIND OF THE PUBLIC THAT YOU HAD WITH YOU TODAY AS MENTIONED, THEY WERE PRETTY WELL SPACED. I DO THINK IT MAY BE PRUDENT FOR PRACTICAL THINGS. I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU ARE INTENDING TO BRING BACK, FOR EXAMPLE A NOISE ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING THAT IS

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THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. >> LET'S MOVE ALONG AND LET'S -- IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE STATE OF EMERGENCY, AND LIKE TO BRING SOMETHING ELSE IN ADDITION TO IT BUT I'LL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE SPECIAL AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.

PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE COME FORWARD. MR. CHAIRMAN I DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD. WE

WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS BE. >> 'S MOTION TO MOVE THE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION EVER 2000 2020 ÃWHATEVER --

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION.

>> 20 ÃONE. >> 20 ÃONE. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BYRNE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JOHNS. ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.

IT PASSES 5-0. BEFORE YOU LEAVE, ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING TO BRING UP AT THIS POINT AS WELL. I WAS CONTACTED YESTERDAY BY THE COA DIRECTOR BECKY YANNI -- IN REGARD TO SUNSHINE BUS SERVICE. SHE ASKED ME TO BRING BEFORE THE ADMINISTRATION. JOE YOU COMMENT THIS MORNING HAD NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LISTEN TO THE VOICEMAIL YET. HER, MISS YANNI AND HER TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT WE SUSPEND SERVICES, THE SUNSHINE BUS SERVICES UNTIL I GUESS, WHATEVER TIME IS NECESSARY TO SEE THIS ISSUE PASSED BY.

I ASKED HER TO QUESTIONS. I THINK I HAVE THE BREAKDOWN. I'D LIKE TO BRING THEM TO YOU.

I ASKED HER NUMBER ONE DOES THE POPULATION DEPEND UPON IT TO GET TO WORK OR TO STORE FOR ESSENTIALS OR DOCTORS APPOINTMENTS? SHE SAYS YES. THEY'RE GOING TO DEPEND ON IT.

>> I ASKED ARE THERE ANY COST-EFFECTIVE ALTERNATIVES FOR THIS DEPENDENT CLIENTELE SHE SAID NO. NOT COST-EFFECTIVE. THEY'RE UNDER CONTRACT -- AND I WOULD LIKE FOR JOY TO JUST MENTION WHAT A CONTRACT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SAY. AND IF YOU WOULD, GIVE US A QUICK OVERVIEW AND THAT WE CAN BRING IT TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.

>> WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE CONTRACTS RELATED TO THE PUBLIC TRANSIT SERVICES. ONE IS THE

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THAT CONTRACT HAS SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE EXPECTATIONS TO PROVIDE PUBLIC TRANSIT SERVICES. WITH THE CONTRACT WE HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO FACT THAT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE YET. BUT FROM OUR READING, SEAWAY CANNOT UNILATERALLY TERMINATE ANY OR SUSPEND ANY SERVICES THAT IS CONTRACTED THROUGH THAT PARTICULAR CONTRACT.

>> I THINK MISS YANNI AGREES WITH THAT AS WELL.

>> ST. JOHN'S COUNTY ALSO HAS A CONTRACT WITH FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION THROUGH A JOINT USE AGREEMENT AND THAT IS TO RECEIVE THE FUNDING FROM F DOT IS A MATCH TO THE OTHER CONTRACT, THE ST. JOHN COUNTY HAS WITH FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION OR BENIGN THEORY AGREEMENT. THE STATE CONTRACTORS PROVIDE MATCH TO THE FEDERAL GRANT.

>> SO I GUESS IT COMES DOWN TO THIS, WE DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO EITHER AGREE, YIELD TO THE RECOMMENDATION OR SAY NO. I WANTED TO PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD FOR YOUR INPUT AND

DISCUSSION. >> I DO WANT TO -- MR. CHAIR I WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING. WE JUST PULL THE WEBSITE FROM THE DRESSING AGENCY RESPONSE TO CORONAVIRUS. THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. THE AGENCY'S RECOMMENDATION AS FAR AS WHETHER OR NOT FDA WAIVE ANY FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS DURING AN EMERGENCY DECLARATION. AND HOW SHOULD A PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT SHOULD SUSPEND OPERATIONS IN AN AREA WITHOUT BREAK. FDA GRANTEES SHOULD FOLLOW THE DIRECTION OF LOCAL AND STATE PUBLIC HEALTH AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. THIS LOCAL AND STATE INFORMATION GENERALLY IS COORDINATED WITH CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION AND THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND IT'S THE MOST ACCURATE ASSESSMENT OF THE SITUATION LOCALLY. A TRANSIT AGENCY ALSO SHALL NOTIFY FDA BEFORE SUSPENDING OPERATIONS.

>> IN THE NEWS ABOUT -- ALWAYS HOW MUCH DO WE SPEND ON THIS IN COUNTY FUNDS? ABOUT $500,000,

SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> THE YEAR TO DATE EXPENDITURE FROM THE FEDERAL GRANT IS $559,644. THE STATE GRANT THAT'S SPENT TOTAL OF $234,147 AND THE COUNTY FUNDS, WHICH WERE USED TO MATCH THE STATE AND FEDERAL WERE $270,433.

BOTH FEDERAL GRANTS AND THE STATE GRANT ARE REIMBURSABLE GRANTS. SO THERE ISN'T ANY -- THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY REIMBURSEMENT BACK TO THE STATE OR FEDERAL AGENCY IF WE CEASE TO ASSIST -- IF WE DECIDE TO SUSPEND SERVICES.

>> SAY THAT AGAIN? >> BOTH THE FEDERAL GRANT AND THE STATE GRANT ARE REIMBURSABLE GRANTS. SO, THE FUNDING ONLY COMES IN WHEN WE

SPEND IT. >> OKAY. SO WE SUSPENDED THERE WON'T BE ANY REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT EXPENDITURE BUT IF IT WERE REACTIVATED IT WILL GO BACK TO

BEING ACTIVE. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I'M GOING TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I'VE GOT A -- MY DISTRICT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE MOST AFFECTED BY THIS I MEAN EVERYBODY HAS CERTAIN PORTIONS OF IT, BUT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT FOLKS GETTING BACK AND FORTH TO WORK AS WELL AS TWO OTHER NECESSARY PLACES.

IN MY -- MY THOUGHT ON THIS AS I WAS PONDERING IT LAST EVENING IS TO -- YOU MET A THRESHOLD OF CERTAIN CONFIRMED CASES IN THE COUNTY THEN SHUT IT DOWN BUT UP TO THAT POINT, IT MIGHT BE A DIFFICULT THING TO DO BECAUSE IT WOULD ACTUALLY POSSIBLY PUT SOME PEOPLE IN A REAL BAD POSITION. THAT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION. BUT UNLIKE THE AIR FROM THE BOARD.

COMMISSIONER JOHNS. >> THANK YOU. MISS YANNI CONTACTED ME. -- WORKING WITH HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AND POTENTIAL CHANGES IN OUR EMERGENCY STATUS. UNDERSTANDING WE BE TALKING ABOUT IT TODAY. THE QUESTIONS I HAD RELATED TO ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION FOR THE PEOPLE WHO USE IT TODAY. WE'VE TOUCHED ON IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ANSWERED. I UNDERSTAND WE WON'T GET REIMBURSED IF WERE NOT SPENDING MONEY WORK IS NOT ACTIVE, BUT BY POSTPONING OR TEMPORARILY TERMINATING

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TRANSPORTATION. >> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, BUT DOING SO SAFELY AT THE SAME TIME.

>> THAT'S WHY STOPPED A MOMENT. BECAUSE WHEN I HEARD JOY SAY THAT THAT WAS MY CONCERN AS WELL. WAS THAT IN THE SUSPENSION OF IT MIGHT LEAD TO AN ECONOMIC COST THAT WE MAY HAVE TO -- WORK MAY NOT BE ABLE TO REACTIVATE THAT -- AGREEMENT -- THOSE GRANT DOLLARS. WHAT YOU READ IT SEEMS NOT TO BE A PROBLEM. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT. COMMISSIONER HER.

>> JUST TO ECHO THE COMMENTS. MY CONCERN IS THAT YOU MAY HAVE INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT NEEDS THESE SERVICES IN ORDER TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE WITH THE DR. AND THERE'S A BALANCE. RIGHT. AT THIS POINT WITH A NUMBER OF CASES WE HAVE, THE POTENTIAL SPREAD, YOU HAVE TO BALANCE THAT WITH THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO MAKE THIS A MORE COMPLICATED PROCESS OR PUT THEIR WELFARE AND HEALTH IN DANGER. I WOULD BE CAUTIOUS TO

SHUT THAT DOWN AT THIS POINT. >> YES. TO TOUCH ON THE POTENTIAL OF LOSS OF FEDERAL DOLLARS, IF THE SERVICE WERE TO BE SUSPENDED. THE GRANT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO REQUIRE THAT WE PROVIDE A CONTINUOUS LEVEL OF SERVICE AND WHILE I DON'T HAVE THE GRANT AGREEMENT IN FRONT OF ME, IT IS NOT UNCOMMON IN THE FEDERAL GRANT AGREEMENTS THAT EVEN FOR GRANTS THAT ARE CORE ON REIMBURSEMENT BASIS, THAT THE FEDERAL AGENCY CAN CLUB MED FUNDS AT THE VERY PROVIDED IF THE TERMS OF THE GRANTOR NOT COMPLETELY COMPLIED WITH. MS. ANDREWS DID READ THE GUIDANCE THAT THE FT IS CURRENTLY PROVIDING IN RESPONSE TO THE COVERED 19 EMERGENCY AND IN THAT GUIDANCE, THE TWO THINGS THAT STUCK OUT TO ME WERE FIRST, TO FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITIES AS WELL AS TO NOTIFY THE FDA PRIOR TO ANY SUSPENSION OF SERVICES. AND SO, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR OFFICE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND REVIEWER GRANT REQUIREMENTS TO DETERMINE WHAT EXACTLY THOSE CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE AS WELL AS TO CONSULT WITH HER LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITIES.

>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT SUMMARY. IT'S NICE TO HAVE COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

>> HAS ANYONE ELSE THAT WE NEED TO SHUT DOWN THE BUSES?

>> WE CHECKED WITH DEVOL COUNTY UNDER BUSING AUTHORITY HAS CHANGED THE ROUTES AND MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THEIR SCHEDULING TO THE EXTENT THAT WAS DONE AT HAVE TO RECHECK.

BUT JUST EARLIER TODAY, THEY HAVE A HEAVY CONCERN ON IS THE DIALYSIS PATIENTS IN THE LIFESAVING. MAYBE IF WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH COUNCIL ON AGING MAKING SURE THE MOST CRITICAL HAVE A MECHANISM OF GETTING TO THESE APPOINTMENTS, MAYBE LOOK AT NONESSENTIAL VERSUS AGILE MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS AND LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT STRATEGY. WORKER SO WE CAN COME BACK WITH SOME OPTIONS. BUT WE HAVE A REAL CONCERN ABOUT THE DIALYSIS PATIENTS BECAUSE THEY CAN ONLY GO SO LONG.

>> THE QUESTION I HAVE, IS THERE A WAY TO LIMIT LIKE DEVOL COUNTY, CHANGE AROUNDS A LITTLE BIT? YOU KNOW WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO, I DO WANT TO KEEP SOMEBODY FROM GOING TO WORK IN THE DR. THEY NEED TO GO TO WORK. MOST OF THEM PROBABLY WORK AT RESTAURANTS. THEY JUST

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MEDICALLY AND FINANCIALLY AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. IT'S SORT OF A HARD THING. MAYBE WE CAN LIMIT WERE NOT TAKING PEOPLE TO GO TO THE BEACH ON A JOY RIDE, THEY'RE JUST GOING OVER THERE FOR SURE THEY LIMIT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. I KNOW THAT WOULD BE HARD TO DO BUT IT COULD CHANGE THE RAMP.. THAT COULD CONTINUE AS PART OF IT.

>> I THINK IF WE COULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THE CHIEF NINE, TO SPEAK WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT THEIR THINKING, WHAT STRATEGIES ARE THINKING. INSTEAD OF JUST A SUSPENSION OF SERVICES TO MAINTAIN SOME LEVEL OF TRANSPORTATION THE NEED TO GET TO WORK. THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

THE CHIEF WAS COMING -- WAS GOING TO THINK ABOUT OF THE MOST CRITICALLY MEDICALLY. I DON'T KNOW IF THE CHIEF IS HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT REMEMBER THERE'S ALWAYS FINANCIAL THAT

COMES ALONG. >> THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

>> ONE THING I COMMISSIONER SMITH SAID, WE WANT TO KEEP IT AS INVASIVE AS POSSIBLE.

>> UNDERSTOOD. >> CHIEF HAVE YOU GOT SOMETHING

YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? >> I WAS JUST GOING TO -- OUR CONCERN IS FOR THE PATIENTS THAT NEED MEDICAL CARE AND JUST ABRUPTLY SHUTTING THE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES OFTEN WHAT WERE GOING TO DO TO GET THEM TO THOSE APPOINTMENTS AND THERE'S THOUSANDS OF CANCER TREATMENT PATIENTS. AND NOT FALLING BACK ON PRIOR RESCUE.

THAT WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO DO. I WOULD SUPPORT MYSELF AND LINDA WORKING WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT KIND OF OPTIONS WE CAN COME UP WITH.

>> THANK YOU. WAGSTAFF, YOU AND HEAD OVER TO -- YES, SIR.

>> WE JUST RECEIVED AN UPDATE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. SO WHAT THEIR BILLING WAS ANY DECISION REGARDING SUSPENDING SERVICES IS NOT GOING TO BE MADE AT THE STATE LEVEL, IS GOING TO BE MADE ON THE LOCAL LEVEL. AND ANOTHER POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

I SPOKE WITH BECKY LAST NIGHT AND SHE MADE IT CLEAR THAT TO HER REQUEST SUSPENDED SERVICES IS GOING TO EXCLUDE ANY MEDICAL SERVICES AS PROVIDED THROUGH PARATRANSIT SYSTEM.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> I THINK TO GO UP WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHN AND PAWPRINTS, ANOTHER CONCERN IS MAYBE WE SHOULD TABLE THIS FOR YOU COULD HAVE MOTHERS THAT NEED TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE TO GET DIAPERS FOR THE KIDS. MAYBE THERE'S A WAY CAN BE TAILORED BY OUR STAFF LIKE COMMISSIONER WALDRON SAID IF THE GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE WE CAN FACILITATE THAT, BUT GOING TO GET FOOD, THERE'S GONNA BE AWAY. IF THEY HAVE TO GET A WORK THEY CAN GET A NOTE FROM THEIR EMPLOYER, SOME WAY WHERE WE CAN LIMIT UNNECESSARY TRIPS. JUST TO THE NECESSITIES AND SPECIFICS. I'M THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THE MOMS THAT MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO A CAR BUT NEED TO GET DIAPERS. I DON'T WANT TO CREATE AN OVERBURDEN THAT CREATES OTHER ISSUES AND HEALTH ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER.

>> THANK YOU I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO SUSPEND THIS ACTIVITY, BUT LET'S TAKE IT INCREMENTALLY IN THE STATE OF EMERGENCY, WERE GOING TO TURN THE POWER TO YOU ANYWAY. AND I'M LOOKING AT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. THAT DECISION CAN BE MADE -- AS THIS THING EXPANDS AND THERE'S A NEED TO SHUT IT DOWN, THEN WE WILL GET TO THAT POINT. THAT DECISION CAN BE MADE. I WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE TO MS. YANNI AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T SEE THAT TO BE IMPERATIVE. WE DO -- THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT CAN BE DEALT WITH AT LEAST INVESTIGATED AND I APPRECIATE YOUR VERY LEVELHEADED IN THINKING AND DECISION MATRIX.

I THINK IT WOULD BE HARMONIOUS WITH THE LOCAL AGREEMENT TO DO SO. BUT PLEASE LET'S MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S ANYTHING DONE IS DONE LEGALLY SO THERE'S NO ADVERSE ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE COUNTY. BUT ALSO, PLEASE, LET'S KEEP IN MIND OUR PEOPLE. THIS IS ALREADY DISRUPTIVE ENOUGH. BUT WE ARE HAVING -- WE NEED TO KEEP IT AS NORMAL AS POSSIBLE FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. WE ARE AFFECTING LIVES RADICALLY RIGHT NOW. I'M TELLING YOU THERE ARE FOLKS --

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>> NO, SIR. >> ANYTHING ELSE COUNTY

ATTORNEY? >> JUST ON THE SITE BEFORE WE

MOVE ON TO REPORTS, MR. CHAIR. >> WE'VE GOT ANOTHER AGENDA

ITEM AS WELL. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> IF THE CHAIR WOULD ACTUALLY SIGN THE PROCLAMATION AND WE WILL PICK IT UP AND GET IT

ROUTED ASAP. >> THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED.

>> ADMINISTRATION, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD.

>> NO, SIR.. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. IT IS SIGNED.

ALL RIGHT. NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO RECESS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE SAINT JOHN'S BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS I WOULD LIKE TO -- LET ME GET MY NOTES OUT HERE.

>> I WOULD NOW LIKE TO CONVENE THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY. WILL

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>> I APOLOGIZE. SEAN IS DEALING WITH A NUMBER OF ISSUES AS YOU CAN ALL IMAGINE THIS AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JOE COHEN THE HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY. THE WEST AUGUSTINE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION HAS EXPRESSED -- EXPRESSED AN INTEREST TO ACQUIRE THE PARCELS. THERE LESS THAN HALF AN ACRE. THIS IS AN EFFORT TO FACILITATE A PROJECT THAT WILL ADDRESS HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE WEST AUGUSTINE COMMUNITY. STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS TRANSFER AND HEARD PER THE ATTACHED DEED THE PROPERTY WILL BE RESTRICTED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND/OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR PERIOD OF UP TO 15 YEARS. MEMBERS OF THE CDC ARE HERE AND ARE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE PROJECT.

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

>> SINGH THEN, WILL NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE PUBLIC COMMENT

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE. >> MR. WHITED MS. WILLIS ARE COMING FORWARD I APOLOGIZE WE TOOK SO LONG TO GET YOU BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS GREG WHITE. 905 PEARL STREET, HISTORICAL WEST AUGUSTINE.

32084. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE HISTORICAL CDC. AND I AM SURE IN THE PACKAGE IT INDICATED ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT THE NONPROFIT HAS DONE TO GET TO THIS POINT. HOWEVER, WAS NOT IN YOUR PACKET IS THAT THE CDC DID GET IN TOUCH WITH OUR CONGRESSMAN, CONGRESSMAN RUTHERFORD IN REFERENCE TO A MEDICAL CLINIC BEING BUILT ON THE CORNER OF BREVARD AND KING STREET. IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR MAP, THOSE TWO LOTS WILL SET AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT. MYSELF, DR. WILLIS, AND BILLING THE COUNTY ACTUALLY WENT TO CONGRESSMAN RUTHERFORD'S OFFICE IN JACKSONVILLE TO DO A PRESENTATION. HE WAS IMPRESSED BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY CAME TO SAINT AUGUSTINE TO DO A SITE VISIT. COMMISSIONER WALDRON WAS PART OF THAT AND SO WAS R COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER SMITH AS WELL AS FLAGLER HOSPITAL, JOHN REAGAN AND CITY COMMISSIONER NANCY SYKES KLEIN. AFTER THE SITE VISIT, THE CONGRESSMAN GAVE THE CDC DIRECT ORDERS HE SAID A SIMILAR PACKAGE AND HAVE IT TO ME BY OCTOBER. AND IN OCTOBER, COMMISSIONER KLEIN AND THE CITY MANAGER ACTUALLY HAND-DELIVERED THAT PACKAGE TO THE CONGRESSMAN. AS I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY, WORKING WITH ONE OF HIS AIDES AND SHE HAS PRESENTED THAT TO HIDE, DR. PARSONAGE SHE'S GOING TO ALSO PRESENTED TO HSS AND BASICALLY WHAT WERE DOING ON THE LOCAL LEVEL, WERE TRYING TO GET FEDERAL REVENUE TO MAKE THE MEDICAL CLINIC A REALITY OPPOSED TO A PIE-IN-THE-SKY. AND HOW IRONIC. A MEDICAL CLINIC WITH CORONAVIRUS KIND OF GOES HAND-IN-HAND, DOESN'T IT.

>> IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE DID A SITE VISIT WITH SIX ITEMS THAT WE PERFORMED IN ORDER TO ASK YOU FOR THOSE PARTICULAR LOTS OF YOU LOOK AT YOUR PACKAGE THOSE SIX ITEMS ARE

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YOU THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU MR. WHITE.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> MS. WILLIS 895 S. ORANGE STREET. MR. WHITE JUST SPOKE ABOUT SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THIS PROJECT, BUT I WANTED TO BRING THE HUMAN SIDE TO IT. AND ALSO THANK THE BOARD AND STAFF FOR LETTING US BE IN YOUR EAR AND TAKE UP A LOT OF YOUR TIME TELLING YOU ABOUT THIS PROJECT IN ALDI INTEREST THAT WERE DOING TO IMPROVE WEST AUGUSTINE. AS YOU KNOW, ON THE SITE COORDINATOR IN THE COCHAIR WHO IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS INITIATIVE. IT'S ELITE -- IS A NEED AND I THINK IT'S TIMES LIKE THIS THAT SOLIDIFIES THAT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF HOURS THAT WE -- WE SIT APPEAR BEGIN TO TELL YOU ABOUT HOW MANY WE WERE IN A TIME THAT WE PUT IN TO OUR COMMUNITY. A LOT OF SWEAT EQUITY AND COMPASSION AND CARE BEFORE THE HOURS AND AFTER THE HOURS. WE NEVER STOP.

IT'S BEEN A JOY AND A GREAT SPIRIT IN THE COMMUNITY OF WEST AUGUSTINE. I'VE SEEN THE CHANGE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. THERE COMING ON BOARD IN GETTING EXCITED NOT JUST PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY BUT THOSE WHO ARE MOVING TO OUR COMMUNITY. THIS IS FOR EVERYBODY. IT'S FOR THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE, JUST WEST AUGUSTINE. ICS IS ONE COMMUNITY. I WANT TO THANK US FOR SEEING THAT. I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED BY YOUR POSITION ON THE NEED OF THIS COUNTY AND ALSO SHOWING SOME COMPASSION FOR EVERY PART OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. IN BEING AT THE TABLE SINCE 2006, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES, AND RELATIONSHIP AND THAT'S WHAT'S NEEDED. HELP US FOR HELPING HER SELVES. I LIKE THE WAY YOU OPERATE DOING THAT BY TAKING THE TIME OUT TO HEAR OUR ISSUES AND CONCERNS TO HELP OR YOU CAN GIVE US GUIDANCE AND CORRECTION MR. BEN COUNTY, THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, IT TAKES A VILLAGE. IN YOUR THAT VILLAGE. I WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE YOU FOR YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT AND IF WE COULD MAKE THIS A REALITY IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY AND ADD TO THE QUALITY OF LFE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AS A WHOLE.

THANK YOU. >> ANY PERFECT -- FURTHER

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN NANCY ANY

FORWARD CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WERE BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION AND ANY QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER WALDRON. YOU CAN PMAKE A MOTION.

>> THE MOTION TO ADOPT CRA RESOLUTION 2020.

>> ÃONE. >> ÃONE DECLARING CERTAIN SERIAL PROPERTY SURPLUS IMPROVING THE -- APPROVING THE TRANSFER OF WEST AUGUSTINE THE STRUGGLE COMMUNITY DEVELOPING AN AUTHORIZING THE BOARD TO -- QUICK SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. ANY DISCUSSION?

>> THE NINE, PLEASE VOTE. >> IT PASSES 5-0.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. >>> ALL RIGHT AND WE WILL RECESS -- WE WILL ADJOURN THE -- THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND WE WILL NOW RECONVENE THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. ACTUALLY, THAT AGENDA IS NOW COMPLETE AND WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO COMMISSIONER

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>> WELL OVERSEAS OBSERVATIONS INTERESTING. OUR COUNTY, 2021 RESOLUTION WAS ON DECLARING AN EMERGENCY FOR CORONAVIRUS. IN THE CRA RESOLUTION 2021 WAS FOR A MEDICAL CLINIC. THAT IS SOMEWHAT -- AT LEAST SERENDIPITOUS ONE SOLVES THE OTHER, HOPEFULLY. BUT, I KNOW THAT WE STILL ARE FACING THE POTENTIAL OF ANY DETAILS FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. BUT WE MADE OUT QUITE WELL DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY IS ON A LONG LIST THEY SENT OUT FUNDED PROJECTS ONE THAT I WAS TO BE HONEST RELATIVELY SHOCKED AT

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>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> THANK YOU. JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. OBVIOUSLY, THIS CRISIS THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH IS HAVING A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAD THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP WHICH BRINGS SIGNIFICANT REVENUE TO THE COUNTY CANCEL. WE HAD A DIRECTIVE -- IT HAD A DIRECT IMPACT AND ALL THE WORKERS. WE HAVE FARMHANDS AND EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ARE GOING TO GO WITHOUT A PAYCHECK. SO THIS IS A TROUBLING TIME. THIS TIME TO STAY IN REFLECTION. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AND RISE TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER. HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK IT'S EXCITING RIGHT NOW THAT WE HAVE ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY AND ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA WE HAVE VOTERS THAT ARE GOING TO THE POLLS AND VOTING AND VOTING FOR THEIR PREFERENCE. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD TAKE LIGHTLY. IT'S A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT THAT WE HAVE. OTHER PLACES THAT YOU WORRY ABOUT YOU CAN GET DECAPITATED BLOWN UP HER SHOT. WE DO HAVE THOSE PROBLEMS. WE JUST HAVE A VIRUS THAT'S IMPACTED HER COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT'S COMMENDABLE THAT WE HAVE CITIZENS THAT ARE RISING UP IN DOING THEIR CIVIC DUTY AND CARRYING ON THE PART OF GOVERNMENT. I'D LIKE THE TWO SHARE IN COMMEMORATION TODAY IS ST. PATRICK'S DAY. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S MEANINGFUL TO ME ALL THE IRISH CATHOLICS OUT THERE. THIS IS SECRETARY AND SO I APOLOGIZE A QUOTE FOR SAINT PATRICK CHRIST BEFORE YOU, CHRIST BEHIND YOU, CHRIST ABOVE YOU, CHRIST WITHIN YOU. AND ALWAYS FOREVER.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MYSELF, MY CHILDREN AND MY SPOUSE WILL HOLD ONTO DURING THESE DIFFICULT TIMES. I HOPE YOU LOOK TO YOUR OWN FAITH AND SPIRITUAL INSIGHTS BUT I FIND THOSE WORD ESPECIALLY DURING THIS TIME KNOWING THAT THE LORD IS ULTIMATELY IN CHARGE. WE ASKING FOR WISDOM AT THIS TIME IS A MAKE THESE TOUGH DECISIONS, DECISIONS THAT IMPACT EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AS A COMMISSIONER SAID EARLIER THESE ARE TOUGH DECISIONS. EVERY DECISION WE MAKE TODAY ÃSTAFF WILL HAVE A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. I WILL GOING TO BE A TYPICAL LAWYER TALK FOREVER, BUT I DO WANT TO COMMEND. I WANT TO THANK YOU MR. CONRAD. I WANT TO SINGLE YOU OUT FOR PRAISE BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS HAVE COME UP HERE TODAY HAVE SHOWN CALM, PROFESSIONALISM AS THEY ALWAYS DO. THESE ARE DIFFICULT TIMES. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CHALLENGE FOR YOU BUT ONE THAT SHALL RISE FOR THE OCCASION. BECAUSE LEADERS ARE TESTED. WE HIRED YOU AS A LEADER TO TAKE ON THIS CHALLENGE. AND YOU RISING TO THE CHALLENGE. OUR FAMILIES GOING TO PRAY FOR YOU AND WERE GOING TO PRAY DURING THIS DIFFICULT TIME THAT THE DECISION TO MAKE -- WE GET TO GO HOME AND GO BACK TO OTHER JOBS. BUT YOU WILL STAY HERE ON THE FRONT LINES THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO MANAGE THIS CRISIS AND YOUR STAFF. I WANT

TO COMMEND YOU FOR THAT THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. >> JUST LIKE -- I'D LIKE TO STAKE -- I'D LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF. AS WE FACE THIS CORONAVIRUS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO ANTICIPATE. WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY BUT I WANT THE PEOPLE AT HOME AND ARE COUNTY RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND WE WILL BE THERE TO HELP YOU IN ANY WAY. I'D LIKE TO STAFF THIS IS GOING TO GET HARD ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR THEY NEED ANYTHING WE FIND OUT WE NEED TO TRY TO EDUCATE THEM. MAYBE TAX INCENTIVES. I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT WATCHING TV TRYING TO FIGURE HOW TO DO SOMETHING. THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE HOW TO MAKE THE NEXT PAYMENT, HOW TO PAY THEIR STAFF, HOW TO -- YOU TAKE RIGHT NOW RESTAURANT BEING CLOSED AT 50 PERCENT, THEY MAY HAVE $50,000 OF PRODUCT IN STOCK.

THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT ANOTHER SHOT DOWN YOUR HAVING ALL THIS PRODUCT THAT'S DISPOSABLE.

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IT MAY BE TIME TO START LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S ALL NOT DOOM AND GLOOM LET THEM KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE. YOU KNOW, AND ANOTHER THING, SPOKE WITH RESIDENTS YESTERDAY, IF YOU'RE FEELING BAD, STAY HOME. IF YOU DON'T, YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT -- NOBODY CAN FORCE YOU TO DO THAT. BUSINESS DOES NEED TO GO ON AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SALVAGE WHAT THEY CAN RIGHT NOW IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. JUST LIKE WE DO HERE. IT'S TOUGH. IT'S GOING TO BE -- IF THERE IS A WORKER SHORTAGE IS GOING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS. THEY START SHUTTING DOWN ACROSS THE COUNTRY. IT'LL BE A HUGE PROBLEM. THERE'LL BE A TIME THAT WILL GET A LOT WORSE.

HOPEFULLY IT DOESN'T. I PRAY IT DOESN'T. AND IT BRINGS INTO PERSPECTIVE WHAT HER JOB SORRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF IT THAT'S IT.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHN SKI. >> IF I COULD REITERATE A LOT OF WHAT'S BEING SAID BUT I WANT TO SUM IT UP BY SAYING I THINK -- I THINK EVERYBODY IT'S BEEN PROFESSIONAL CAUTIOUS BUT EFFECTIVE. WE ARE INVOLVED IN MANY COMMITTEES SUBCOMMITTEES OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND WITH MOST OF THOSE BEING SHUT DOWN I'VE GOT ENGINEERING WORK DONE.

I'VE GOT A LOT OF HONEYDEW IS IN MY OFFICE DONE. AS THE SOCIAL INTERACTION. MY ENGINEERING OFFICE, WE'VE SEPARATED EACH OTHER AND WERE ABLE TO REMOTELY WORK TOGETHER AND STILL MEET THE DEMANDS OF OUR RESIDENTS. BUT I'VE TOLD THEM THAT WE ARE EXPECTING A SHIFT IN THE ECONOMY AS A RESULT OF OR THE FEARS OF THE VIRUS THAN THE ACTUAL VIRUS HAS IMPACTED ON US. SOME CAUTIOUS, SOME OVERLY SO. AND I SAID WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE IN HOW WE RESPOND TO THE NEEDS OF OUR CLIENTS, OUR RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THIS MEETING IS BEEN A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW WE CAN CONDUCT BUSINESS SAFELY AND EFFECTIVELY. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE COMMUNICATIONS CONTINUE. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE COMMERCE CONTINUE IN CASH FLOW CONTINUE OR IT WILL AFFECT EVERY BUSINESS AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL, NOT JUST IN OUR COUNTY AND STATE, BUT IN THE WORLD. I THINK THERE IS A HARD WATER HAMMER COMING TO OUR ECONOMY. IT'S JUST A MATTER WHEN, NOT IF AND AS A COUNTRY, WE WILL OVERCOME THIS. WE ARE INNOVATORS. WE WILL FIND WAYS TO DEAL WITH THIS JUST LIKE WE HAVE LOCALLY WITH HURRICANE MATTHEW AND IN THE FOLLOWING DISASTERS, WE GOT BETTER WITH EACH ONE. NOT THAT WE WANTED TO EXPERIENCE THEM BUT THE CONFIDENCE IN KNOWING WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO DO IT COLLECTIVELY NOT JUST AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS PLAYED OUT EFFECTIVELY. WE WILL DO THE SAME WITH THIS EMERGENCY. MY HOPE IS THAT PEOPLE WILL REMAIN CALM, KEEP COOL HEADS AND BE FOCUSED ON WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT. IT'S LIKE THE TRICK OF PUBLIC SPEAKING. IT'S ALL A MATTER OF WHAT YOU FOCUS ON WHETHER IT IS THE CHAOS FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN MAKE YOU NERVOUS OR YOU FOCUS ON THE SUBJECT MATTER THAT IS INHERENT IN THE TASK THAT IS AT HAND AND YOU MAKE THINGS HAPPEN. THE SITUATION HASN'T CHANGED IS THE FOCUS. WHATEVER YOU DWELL ON OR WHAT HAPPENS. THE SELF-FULFILLING PROCESS OF FILMIC PROPHECY MANY WAYS. ON THE LAST PEOPLE TO PUT -- IT'S NOT DETRIMENTAL IF YOU TAKE PRECAUTIONS AND IT WILL BE LESS AND ITS IMPACT IF WE DO CONTINUE TO CONDUCT A BUSINESS SAFELY AS WE HAVE DONE TODAY AND MOVE FORWARD. MY HOPE IS THAT I CAN PARTICIPATE WITH THE RENEWAL OF THE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION WHENEVER THAT COMES OUT EACH WEEK AND MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN HAVE INFORMATION AVAILABLE AT THOSE WEEKLY MEETINGS FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS, WHETHER IT IS STORE CLOSINGS OR CHANGES IN THE UPDATES. I KNOW I GET INFORMATION HOURLY BY EMAIL AND TEXT. AND I HEAR IT FROM THE LOCAL EXPERTS IT COMES ACROSS DIFFERENTLY. I'M NOT CALLING US EXPERTS, BUT US AS A COMMUNITY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT OUR EXPERTS IN OUR COMMUNITY IS RELYING ON US TO WADE THROUGH THE MORASS OF INFORMATION WERE GETTING FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES TO SAY HERE'S HOW IT APPLIES TO US. MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN ADD AS A PART OF EMERGENCY DECLARATION OR BLOCK ORATION TO EXTEND SOME SOUNDBITES OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD OVER THE LAST WEEK OR DAY OR HOUR, WHATEVER IT MAY

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>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JOHNS.

>> I'VE GOT A FEW THINGS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS AND I JUST -- I WANT TO -- ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF CORONAVIRUS IN THIS COVID-19. THE BIBLE IS PRETTY CLEAR THAT GOD HAS NOT GIVEN US A SPIRIT OF FEAR BUT OF LOVE AND OF POWER AND OF SOUND MIND AND HE ALSO SAYS THAT PERFECT LOVE CASTS OUT FEAR. AND I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO NOTE IN A VERY POWERFUL CONTEXT -- I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE FOLKS THAT HAVE MADE ATTEMPTS AND WERE GRATEFUL FOR THE ATTEMPTS BY MANY PERSONS FOR THEIR EFFORTS TO LIMIT ADVERSE EFFECTS OF THE DISEASE OVERPOPULATION ESPECIALLY THE WEAK AND VULNERABLE. I WANT TO BRING THIS INTO CONTEXT BECAUSE SOME OF US GET PERPLEXED OR CONFUSED OVER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE SOCIETY GETS TWISTED. I THINK THE VERY VULNERABLE SEGMENT OF OUR POPULATION HAS BEEN COMPROMISED. IN 2017 862,320 ABORTIONS ARE EXECUTED IN THE UNITED STATES. THAT'S 2362 PER DAY. 98 PER HOUR 98 PER HOUR 1.64 PER MINUTE. AND YET, TO ME, IT'S KIND OF A PERPLEXING SITUATION WE ARE AT. I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO BUT I WANT TO GIVE PERSPECTIVE TO WHAT'S LEGAL IN AMERICA. YOU KNOW IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE HAVE SERIOUS ISSUES AND AT HAND. I BELIEVE LIBERTY WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE MORAL AND BIBLICAL FOUNDATION AND YET, I CAN SEE THE GOVERNMENT CONTINUES TO FLIRT WITH INFRINGEMENT IMPEDIMENTS UPON OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES. THERE IS A COMFORT -- THERE IS A CONSTANT BATTLE TO MAINTAIN THESE RIGHTS TO WHICH EACH OF US. THE FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS GUARANTEES THE RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE TO PEACEABLY ASSEMBLE.

I PRAY THIS RIGHT IS NOT THREATENED IN LIGHT OF TRIAL AND TRIBULATION TO THOSE THAT WE ARE PRESENTLY ENGAGED WITH. BEN FRANKLIN RIGHTFULLY WISELY ADDRESSED SOMETHING IN THE WEAKENED CONSIDER. THOSE WHO WOULD GIVE UP ESSENTIAL LITERALLY LIBERTY TO PURCHASE SAFETY DESERVE NEITHER LIBERTY NOR SAFETY. YOU KNOW, WHICH ARE ALL FROM HER FELLOW PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. THAT'S THE ONE THING WE SHOULD BE ENGAGED IN. IN ORDER FOR THIS TO OCCUR GOVERNMENT SHOULD COMMUNICATE THE FACTS TO ITS POPULACE SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE INFORMED EDUCATED DECISIONS. OUR PRESENT ROLE IS DEMONSTRATED A POOR EFFECT OF COMMUNICATING THE TRUTH. CONFLICTING NUMBERS OF MISINFORMATION HAVE LED TO UNNECESSARY CONFUSION AND BEER. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT FROM HERE. THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO SECURE PERTINENT INFORMATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH CONCERNING THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC HAS BEEN DIFFICULT TO DO THAT, TO CONFIRM IT. TO HAVE GOOD INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO PROMOTE AND GO FORWARD. LET ME TELL YOU WHAT COMMUNICATIONS ARE CRITICAL COMPONENT OF WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO. AS WE FORWARD, WE MUST DO SO IN A DECENT ORDERLY AND OBJECTIVE MANNER. THIS TRIAL WILL HAVE A LONG-LASTING REPERCUSSIONS. AND I'M AFRAID THAT WE'VE ONLY BEGUN TO SEE THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. FOR BUSINESSES WILL FACE CHALLENGES POTENTIAL LAYOFFS AND REVENUE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. CHILDCARE IS GONNA BE FEW THE SIMPLE THINGS THAT WERE GOING TO HAVE CHALLENGES WITH. RECESSIONS ARE PROBABLE. IT'S PROBABLE IS INEVITABLE. LOCAL AND STATE ECONOMY IS GOING TO SHOW VULNERABILITY, VOLATILITY AND IT'S NOT BEING SOMETHING THAT IS ESPECIALLY IF IT'S NOT GROWN MADE OR MIND WE'VE HAD AN ECONOMIC CHALLENGE. THERE WILL BE SALES TAX REDUCTION, TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX REDUCTIONS AND WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THESE THINGS AS WE MOVE FORWARD ESPECIALLY WITH EXPENDITURES. I THINK THAT THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO PROVIDE COMFORT. I'D LIKE TO DEVIATE FROM CORONAVIRUS. IT'S ILLEGAL TO TALK ABOUT MY HOUSE IT'S BECOME OVERWHELMING AND WE DON'T DISCUSS IT. WE TRY TO MOVE ON TO MORE POSITIVE THINGS BECAUSE COMMISSIONER JOHNS, AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO THINK UPON SOMETHING THAT CREATES RIGHT. BE FRIGHTFUL. BUT THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WILL BE PUT IN. KEEP THAT PART OF

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HOPE YOU ENJOY THE CANVASSING BOARD. IT'S A GREAT EXPERIENCE. THANK YOU VERY

MUCH IT'S BEEN A GOOD DAY. >> YES, SIR.

>>. >> YESTERDAY MELANIE BROUGHT HOME SOME CORN ON THE COB FROM THE COUNTY LINE VEGETABLE STAND. IT WAS THE BEST I'VE EVER HAD. I HAD A LOT OF SWEETCORN. IT WAS REALLY DELICIOUS. I ATE THREE OF THEM. THE VEGETABLE STANDS ARE GOING GREAT GUNS RIGHT NOW. IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO EAT SWEETCORN, THEY HAVE VARIETIES THAT ARE SUPERSWEET. IF YOU'RE REALLY GOOD YOU CAN GET A WARM WITH A -- WARM WITH IT TOO. NONETHELESS.

>> ADMINISTRATION? >> YES, SIR. I JUST HAD ONE THING BUT DURING YOUR CONVERSATION I'D LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION MR. CHAIR WE'VE HAD PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL IN THE RELATION TO THE POLICY OF HAVING EASEMENTS AND SURVEYS DONE. JUST SO YOU KNOW WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. I'LL MAKE SURE THAT IS PRESENTED TO

YOU IS FORTHCOMING. >> COMMISSIONER WALTER.

>> THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE PUBLICLY COULD BE GIVEN TO A PRIVATE. I DON'T NEED AN AGENDA ITEM I JUST WANT THIS BOARD TO BE PRIVY TO THE ADDRESS OF THAT IN REGARD TO

POLICY. >> ABSOLUTELY. COMMISSIONER WALDRON, ANYTIME WE GET ANY INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY DURING THIS TIME OF COVERED 19, IF WE COULD PUSH THAT OUT, HELP BUSINESSES AND HELP MAKE THEM AWARE YESTERDAY. I WAS MADE AWARE THAT THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE SENT OUT A PRESS RELEASE THAT SMALL BUSINESS BRIDGE LOANS ARE AVAILABLE. AS SOON AS I RECEIVED THE EMAIL I FORWARDED THAT TO THE CHAMBER AND ASKED HER IF SHE WOULD PUSH THAT TO HER MEMBERS AS WELL AS A GOING OUT. SO THAT STEP HAS BEEN TAKEN AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CHAMBER AND OTHER PARTNERS AS WE LEARN TO GATHER MORE UNINTELLIGENT ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT ASSISTANCE IS AVAILABLE ESPECIALLY TO THE SMALL BUSINESSES. WE WOULD DO EVERYTHING TO HELP BRING THEM INTO THE FOLD. AS WE MAKE POLICY DECISIONS WITH EACH DAY.

>> YES, SIR. >> ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, I APPRECIATE THE ENCOURAGEMENT. I THINK ALL OF YOU KNOW THIS.

I AM VERY BLESSED AND FORTUNATE. THERE ARE A LOT OF GREAT COUNTY STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE. I DON'T THINK SHE'S HERE ANYMORE. I'D LIKE TO SINGLE AND SHE DOES NOT KNOW THIS IS COMING BUT LINDA STOUT AND HER TEAM. YOU KNOW ALL OF THEM OVER THERE. BUT JUST BRIEFLY, I TRY NOT TO DO THIS TOO MUCH, BUT I'M 90 DAYS IN. WE HAVE JOKED PRIVATELY QUITE FRANKLY. WE CAN HURT HOPE TO GET TO HURRICANE SEASON HERE WE ARE IN THE FRONT OF A GLOBAL PANDEMIC. THE HEALTH SITUATION THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. MS. LINDA HAS BEEN A STEADY HAND.

SHE IS DELIBERATE, METHODICAL AND OBJECTIVE SHE'S NOT OVERREACTIVE, BUT SHE'S ALSO

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>> THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE EXECUTIVE BOARD THAT CAME DOWN FROM THE GOVERNOR. I HAVE RECEIVED A COPY OF IT IN MY EMAIL. I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF BUT I'D LIKE TO READ IN PERTINENT PART THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS COMMISSIONER SMITH AS YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE NOW WHERE THESE MANDATES ARE COMING FROM. WHEN THE QUESTIONS BEGIN TO BE ASKED, THESE ARE THE STATE GUIDELINES PER GOVERNOR DESANTIS. IF YOU BEAR WITH ME FOR TWO MINUTES I'D LIKE TO READ -- I WILL DO ALL THE WHEREAS CLAUSES BUT ALL READ HIS MANDATE. NOW THEREFORE RON DESANTIS IS GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA AND ALL OTHER APPLICABLE LAWS PROMULGATE THE FOLLOWING EXECUTIVE ORDER. SECTION NUMBER ONE. BARS, PUBS AND NIGHTCLUBS. PURSUANT TO SECTION 252, 36 SUBSECTION 5 SUBSECTION G THROUGH H OF THE FLORIDA STATUTE ANY LICENSEE AUTHORIZED TO SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES THAT DRIVE MORE THAN 50 PERCENT OF ITS GROSS REVENUE FROM THE SALE OF ALL GOLD BEVERAGES SHALL SUSPEND ALL SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS ORDER EFFECTIVE AT 5 PM TODAY. SECTION B UNDER SECTION 1. THE DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL REGULATION SHALL UTILIZE ITS AUTHORITIES UNDER FLORIDA LAW TO ENFORCE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION AND SHALL TAKE ADDITIONAL MEASURES WITH RESPECT TO BARS, PUBS AND NIGHTCLUBS AS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. SECTION 2, BEACHES. PURSUANT TO SECTION 252, FLORIDA STATUTES I DIRECT PARTIES ACCESSING PUBLIC BEACHES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO FOLLOW THE CDC GUIDANCE BY LIMITED THEIR GATHERINGS TO NO MORE THAN 10 PERSONS DISTANCED THEMSELVES FROM OTHER PARTIES BY SIX FET AND SUPPORT BEACH CLOSURES AT THE DISCRETION OF LOCAL AUTHORITIES.

SECTION 3, RESTAURANTS. A RESTAURANT SHALL IMMEDIATELY LIMIT ITS OCCUPANCY TO 50 PERCENT OF HIS CURRENT BUILDING OCCUPANCY. PURSUANT TO SECTION 250 2.36 SUBSECTION 5G FLORIDA STATUTES. A RESTAURANT SHALL FOLLOW THE CDC GUIDANCE BY ENSURING AT MINIMUM, A SIX FOOT DISTANCE BETWEEN ANY GROUP OF PATRONS AND LIMITING PARTIES TO NO MORE THAN 10 INDIVIDUALS.

THE DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS AND REGULATIONS SELL ENSURE THEY PROHIBIT SCREENING AND PREVENT EMPLOYEE ENTERING IF THEY MEET ANY OF THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA: A PERSON INFECTED WITH COVERED 19 WHO IS NOT HAD TWO NEGATIVE TEST RESULTS SEPARATED BY 24 HOURS. ANY PERSON PRESENTING SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS OF A RESPIRATORY INFECTION INCLUDING COUGH, FEVER. ANY PERSON RESPONDING CONTACT WITH ANY PERSON OR PERSONS KNOWN TO BE INFECTED WITH COVID-19 WAS NOT TESTED NEGATIVE WITHIN THE PAST 14 DAYS.

NUMBER FOUR ANY PERSONAL TRAVEL DURING AIRPORT WITHIN THE PAST 14 DAYS OR ANY PERSON WHO TRAVELED ON A CRUISE SHIP WITHIN PAST 40 -- 14 DAYS. THOSE ARE REGULATIONS FOR RESTAURANTS. AND THEN FINALLY, THE DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL REGULATION SHALL UTILIZE ITS AUTHORITIES UNDER FLORIDA LAW TO IMPLEMENT AND ENFORCE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION AND CHECK SHALL TAKE ADDITIONAL MEASURES TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE. RESTAURANT SHALL INCLUDE ANY FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT LICENSED UNDER CHAPTER 500 FLORIDA STATUTES. AND PUBLIC FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS. I WANTED TO READ THAT TO YOU ALL. HE CAME IN AS WE WERE HERE SO ARE ALL CLEAR ON WHAT THOSE ORDERS ARE, IT'S NOT BEEN MANDATING LOCALLY BUT IT'S MANDATED. SO YOU GET A COPY OF THAT. WE'LL MAKE SURE IT GOES OUT TO THE PUBLICAS WELL. SO THAT EVERYBODY IS A WELL THAT WERE ALL ON ONE STAFF. MOVING ON FOR JUST A MINUTE. I HAVE EMAILED A LETTER TO THE CHAIR -- I THINK YOU'VE ALL BEEN COPIED ON THAT SAME EMAIL.

THIS IS FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS THE COUNTY MADE A REQUEST TO THE UNITED STATES ARE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS FOR A STUDY. LAST YEAR THE CORE REQUESTED -- REQUIRED THIS REQUEST WAS MADE IN WRITING WHICH WAS DONE IN A LETTER DATED FEBRUARY 7, 2019 AND SIGNED BY COMMISSIONER

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OVER TO YOU TO MAKE A DECISION. >> THANK YOU. WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR BOARD DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC). >> CONSENSUS TO THE CHAIR TO SIGN AN IMPORTANT LETTER PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE LEASE ANDRECENT LEGISLATIVE

FUNDING. I MOVE. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I RECOGNIZE THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JEAN. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> I SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. >> PUBLIC COMMENT. SORRY.

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS NON-AGENDA ITEM. FUNDING FOR POINT B DRUG BEACH.

>> NOT SEEING ONE COME FORWARD. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING JEA.

>> MOTION CARRIES. >> YOU HIT SOMETHING.

>> YOU PRESS THE BUTTON. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER

CONRAD, ANYTHING ELSE. >> NOTHING FURTHER FROM

ADMINISTRATION. >> THANK YOU. COUNTY ATTORNEY?

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE ST. PATRICK'S DAY.

HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER MAY HAVE BEEN READING FROM SAINT PATRICK'S BREASTPLATE OF THEIR FAMOUS PALM. PERHAPS NEXT YEAR HE MAY SAYING A LITTLE BIT OF THAT. I DID ONE REMARK ON THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. AFTER 90 DAYS AND THIS WORLD NATIONAL STATE AND NOW LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY, THE BOARD HAS PROVIDED TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THROUGH THE LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY, REALLY, A POWERFUL SET OF AUTHORITY AND I HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH MR. CONRAD. HE IS CALM, COOL AND COLLECTED AND I KNOW THAT ANYTHING HE WILL EXERCISE UNDER THAT EMERGENCY POWER HE WILL FULLY INFORMED THE BOARD, NOT TO SURPRISE THAT HE WILL NOT BE STAMPEDED BY PUBLIC HYSTERIA. I HAVE OBSERVED THAT IN HIM.

NEXT, AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE COMPLETED ITS 2020 SESSION IN TERMS OF LEGISLATION. THERE WERE NUMBER OF BILLS -- ALL VERY BRIEFLY GO THROUGH AND I WANT TO FOCUS ON HOUSE BILL THREE, WHICH WOULD HAVE GONE TO LOCAL LICENSING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH, IN SOME REGARDS, WOULD HAVE BEEN A APPROPRIATE FOR STATE PREEMPTION BUT PERTAINING TO CONTRACTOR REVIEW BOARD TYPE SITUATIONS WHERE I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT SERVICE THE COUNTY PROVIDES. THAT BILL DID NOT MAKE IT THROUGH. THE HOUSE AND SENATE BILL AND VACATION RENTALS, THE BOARD IS FAMILIAR WITH THAT AND THE DISPOSITION OF THAT DID NOT MAKE IT THROUGH. THERE WAS A BILL ON SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY. AT FIRST I THINK THE INTENT WAS TO RAISE UP THE PUBLIC AGENCY EXPOSURE UP TO $1 MILLION. THAT WAS BROUGHT DOWN TO 500. BUT ULTIMATELY, THE BUILDING NOT MAKE IT THROUGH. A BILL PERTAINING TO BUILDING -- BUILDING APPROVAL, WHICH ACTUALLY COME IN SOME PARTS WERE, IN MY VIEW, APPROPRIATE IN SOME PERHAPS NOT SO BUT THAT DID NOT MAKE IT THROUGH. TOWING VEHICLES AND OTHER -- THERE WAS A PROPOSED CHANGE TO HARRIS LAW WHICH HAS SOME LANGUAGE IN IT THAT WAS ULTIMATELY FOUND TO BE PROBLEMATIC. THAT DID NOT MAKE IT THROUGH. THERE WAS A BILL PERTAINING TO IMPACT FEES, BOTH THE HOUSE VERSION IN DAY SENATE VERSION. THE HOUSE VERSION HAD SOME FEATURES INCLUDING AN IMPACT FEE REVIEW COMMITTEE AND SOME OTHER PROVISIONS. THAT PORTION WAS DROPPED. IT WAS JOINED INTO THE SENATE VERSION IN THE SENATE BILL 1066, WHICH

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AND IT MAY BE WORTH AT LEAST A QUICK REACH OUT TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IF THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT THIS LANGUAGE. SO NOT SURE WHAT THE GOVERNOR SCHEDULE IS FOR REVIEWING AND APPROVING LEGISLATION, BUT IT MIGHT BE WORTH AT LEAST A REACH OUT THAT THE COUNTY IS BASICALLY REVIEWING THIS WITH ITS DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AS TO THE MEANING AND INTERPRETATION OF THIS. AND THEN, SHOULD THERE BE KIND OF A LARGELY GENERAL AGREEMENT -- AND IF WE COULD REDUCE THAT TO WRITING, I THINK THAT WOULD MITIGATE THE CONCERN. BUT IF NOT, THERE MAY BE A REQUEST FOR THE GOVERNOR TO VETO THIS AND TO HAVE IT COME BACK ANOTHER YEAR FORWARD-LOOKING. AND I DON'T KNOW IN TERMS OF -- ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY, WHETHER FORWARD-LOOKING WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC. MY SENSE IS IT WOULD BE NOT BECAUSE IF SOMETHING IS FORWARD-LOOKING, ALL PARTIES OR AFFECTED PERSONS CAN PLAN FOR THAT. SO, THAT IS IT IN A NUTSHELL. I THINK EACH OF YOU ARE JUST KIND OF PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THIS. MR. CHAIR, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S COMMENTS.

>> WHAT WAS THE VOTE ON IT? >> YES. I BELIEVE ON THE

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AND I WILL HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME. BUT I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY 30 TO 40 VOTES IN DISSENT AND THE REST IN FAVOR. INTERESTINGLY, EVEN THOUGH THE SENATE, WHEN IT PASSED ITS BILL, IT'S VERSION, THAT WAS THE 40 TO 0, THE HOUSE SENT OVER AN AMENDMENT WHICH THE SENATE REJECTED. AND THAT'S WHERE WAS A REAL DANGER OF DYING. ACTUALLY FRIDAY NIGHT, AND THE SENATE DID NOT ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT. IT WENT BACK TO THE HOUSE. THE HOUSE INSISTED ON THAT AMENDMENT. THEY SENT IT BACK TO THE SENATE AND THE SENATE CHANGED ITS POSITION AND ACCEPTED THAT AMENDMENT. WHICH IS A PERTAIN TO THE PART WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND ULTIMATELY, APPROVED THE BILL. SO, HOUSE ENDED UP BEING -- UNANIMOUS -- THE SENATE SIDE, I THINK IT WAS UNANIMOUS ON OUTSIDE IN A SPLIT VOTE BUT PROBABLY TWO THIRDS IN

FAVOR. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> SO, MR. SHARON COMMISSIONERS WHAT I INTEND TO DO IS TO REACH OUT TO THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. I'VE ALREADY STARTED A REACH OUT ON THAT. TO TRY TO KIND OF DISCUSS THE IMPORT OF THIS LANGUAGE AND TO TRY TO GET A SENSE OF WHETHER SORT OF AN AGREEMENT OR NOT ON THE -- ON THE BEING RETROSPECTIVE OR NOT. I WILL TELL YOU MY INITIAL SENSE, JUST REACHING OUT IS THAT AT LEAST SOME PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WOULD NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ONLY FORWARD-LOOKING IN THAT IT WOULD NOT MAKE ELIGIBLE SOME OF THE IMPACTING CREDITS THAT ARE ALREADY OUT THERE. SO THAT MAY BE AN INITIAL VIEW ON THIS.

SO, WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY DIRECTION THE BOARD WOULD WANT TO GIVE, I WOULD SAY, WHETHER THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HAS REACHED OUT TO OR NOT, THE COUNTY, I THINK, CAN GENERALLY LOOK AT ITS IMPACT FEE -- IMPACT FEE PROGRAM AND THERE ARE VARIOUS MOVING PARTS TO THAT. AND IF THIS LANGUAGE IS THEY ARE, AND -- I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER MOVING PARTS -- WHICH I DON'T WANT TO GO IN DETAIL HERE TODAY, BUT I THINK THOSE CAN BE DISCUSSED AGAIN WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND SOME RECOMMENDATION IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.

ANYWAY, JUST WANT TO GET THE BOARD A REMINDER OF THIS RECENT LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE. THANK

YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE.

>> YES. THE TOPIC OF MAILBOXES. AND -- WITH -- WITH ME TODAY BRAD MULTIS FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THE BOARD MAY REMEMBER THERE HAD BEEN SOME CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS I THINK, LARGELY OR ENTIRELY, I THINK IN SORT OF THE PONTEVEDRA AREA.

PERTAINING TO MAILBOXES AND COUNTY RIGHT-OF-WAY. I'M TALKING PARTICULARLY ABOUT RIGID MAILBOXES THAT ARE NOT BREAKAWAY OF A MATERIAL WHERE IF IMPACTED, YOU KNOW, THE VEHICLE A PASSENGER WOULD BE DULY AFFECTED. THERE HAD BEEN A PROVISION IN THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY CODE WITH SOME PROHIBITIONS. THERE WERE SOME CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT WARNINGS PROVIDED. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION OF THE LANGUAGE ON HOW CLEAR THE LANGUAGE WAS. WE REVIEWED IT. ALTHOUGH WE BELIEVED ULTIMATELY SUFFICIENT FOR ENFORCEMENT DID HAVE SOME AMBIGUITY. SO, THE MATTER WAS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD AS PART OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REVISIONS. IT HAD COME TO THE BOARD ON A FIRST READING

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THEY CAME BACK TO THE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. I BELIEVE THERE WERE CITIZENS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE. ULTIMATELY THE BOARD DID IMPROVE THE DEVICE TO LANGUAGE WHICH WOULD CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE. THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THE MAILBOXES. IN THE COUNTY RIGHT-OF-WAY. THERE HAS STILL BEEN SOME CONSTITUENTS THAT DO NOT BELIEVE THIS LANGUAGE IS NECESSARY OR PRUDENT. AND I THINK HAVE REACHED OUT TO POSSIBLY HAVE THE COUNTY RELOOK AT THIS OR TO FIND SOME OTHER MECHANISM TO USE ON THIS ISSUE. ONE POSSIBILITY WOULD BE REACH OUT TO THE SEA WHETHER THEY MIGHT BE WILLING TO EITHER BY CONVEYANCE OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF MECHANISM TO ASSUME CONTROL AND LIABILITY AND/OR LIABILITY OVER THOSE PORTIONS OF RIGHT-OF-WAY NST LEGAL LEGAL COUNSEL. MY IMPRESSION WAS THAT HE HAD SIGNIFICANT DOUBTS AS TO WHETHER THAT COULD BE DONE LAWFULLY IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND SECONDLY, THAT THE NST WOULD BE WANTING TO ASSUME THAT LIABILITY AND MANNER. SO THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A VIABLE MECHANISM. ANOTHER IDEA WAS TO HAVE THE BOARD DIRECTOR PONTEVEDRA ZONING ADJUSTMENT BOARD TO CONSIDER CHANGING TO ITS CODE LANGUAGE UP THERE. BUT ULTIMATELY, THIS IS NOT A ZONING ISSUE. THIS IS MORE OF A PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY WELFARE. IT'S A RIGHT-OF-WAY ISSUE RATHER THAN A ZONING ISSUE.

LASTLY, I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF CONVEYING OR VACATING PORTIONS OF THE RIGHT WAY SO THAT IF A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER WANTED THESE TYPES OF MAILBOXES THAT ULTIMATELY WOULD BE ON THAT PROPERTY ON THE OWNER'S PROPERTY RATHER THAN THE COUNTIES. WE THINK THERE IS A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT WOULD CREATE IF IT WERE A VACATION OF THE ENTIRE RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE LORD BE ISSUES OF ABOUT POTENTIALLY ACCESS UP-AND-DOWN. ETC. IF IT WAS JUST THE ACTUAL PORTIONS OR SCRAPS WHERE THE MAILBOXES WERE WE THINK THAT WOULD LEAD TO SOME SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE FROM THE SURVEY AND TITLE WORK AND WHAT NOT TO GO THROUGH THERE. IT MAY BE THAT THE BOARD MAY TAKE THE POSITION THAT THIS ISSUE HAS COME TO THE BOARD. THE PUBLIC HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON IT. IN ANY DIRECTION THAT IT WISHED TO. THAT OPPORTUNITY WAS THERE. THE BOARD HEARD IT ONCE. SO MAYBE THE DIRECTION FRANKLY, THERE MAY NOT EVEN NEED TO BE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD IF THE BOARD COULD REMAIN SILENT. THEN THE COUNTIES NORMAL ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM WOULD PROCEED AND WE JUST GO FROM THERE.

PIN THE PROPERTY OWNER, SHOULD THEY WISH TO, OF COURSE, COULD CONTEST THOSE ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS. AND IF SO THE COUNTY IS PREPARED TO GO FORWARD ON THAT.

MR. CHAIR, APOLOGIZE FOR THE LONG DESCRIPTION. BUT THAT'S -- THAT'S WARRIOR.

>> HOW MANY VIOLATIONS ARE THERE?

>> THERE WERE ROUGHLY 40. I MEAN, THOSE ARE JUST THE COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE PONTEVEDRA AREA. THERE MAY BE OTHERS ELSEWHERE IN THE COUNTY THAT HAVE NOT REACHED THE COMPLAINT STAGE BUT WE HAVE 40 IDENTIFY.

>> IF I MAY AS THE CHAIR ALSO, IF SOME OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS ACTED TO REMEDY OR CURE

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THE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THE ISSUE -- NOT TO PROLONG THIS EVEN FURTHER, BUT IS MALES -- MAIL BOXES THAT ARE IN THE CLEAR RIGHT-OF-WAY. TO THE LOCATION OF -- FOR PUBLIC SAFETY REASONS. WE CAN GET THE MAIL BACKMAILBOXES OUT OF THE CLEAR ZONING STILL ACCESSIBLE TO THE POSTAL SERVICE. THEN THE ISSUE WOULD BE RESOLVED AND SOME PROPERTY OWNERS DID ELECT TO DO THAT BUT OTHERS HAVE NOT.

>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT EXCITING. >> I CAN REPEAT IT IF YOU'D

LIKE ME TO. >> NOW.

>> NO. NO. I THINK WERE GOOD. MR. CHAIRMAN, IS THIS SOMETHING WE CAN HEAR AT A LATER TIME.

>> WE DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND RIGHT NOW. THERE'S LAW. WE'VE APPROVED IT. IT'S ON BOARD.

IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, YOU CAN MAKE A COMMENT IF YOU WANT DIRECTION IF NOT.

>> MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE TESTING A LOT OF THIS IS COMING UP IN THE MST. IT'S A CREATION OF THIS BOARD -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

>> THE MST IS A CREATION OF STATE LAW. THERE ARE A SPECIAL DISTRICT. THERE NOT AN APPOINTED DISTRICT LIKE YOUR IDA OR YOUR CRA'S. THE PONTEVEDRA ZONING ADJUSTMENT BOARD, THAT IS A -- YOU APPOINT HIM. THAT'S GREAT.

>> WILL THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE -- IS KIND OF A MOOT POINT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THANK YOU.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A DONE ISSUE.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> YES. MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, AS I ANNOUNCED LAST MEETING, THIS MEETING WOULD BE THE LAST MEETING FOR SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY SORIA WITH THE COUNTY. ALOE IS HERE WITH US TODAY. I WOULD LIKE TO VERY BRIEFLY BUT PUBLICLY RECOGNIZE MR. SORIA FOR HIS VERY FINE SERVICE TO THE COUNTY. ALOE HAD ACTUALLY BEEN UP IN NASSAU COUNTY AS AN ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY A GENTLEMAN NAMED DAVID HALLMAN. THEY THROUGH BUDGET CUTS ETC. WAS IN DANGER OF LOSING PAOLO BUT THOUGHT SO MUCH OF HIM THAT HE REACHED OUT TO HIS FELLOW ATTORNEYS AND WISHED TO PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SOMEBODY. AND HE DID REACH OUT TO ME. WE HAD A POSITION OPEN AT THAT TIME. WE HAD MANY APPLICATIONS. THE ONE THING, EVEN THOUGH I KNEW THE A COUNTY ATTORNEY WELL, THE WAY HE WAS DESCRIBING MR. SORIA, I FOUND SOMEWHAT NOT CREDIBLE. HOW GOOD HE WAS, HOW DILIGENT, HOW SMART. HOW REALLY ENCYCLOPEDIA? HIS KNOWLEDGE WAS OF THEIR CODED I WAS LIKE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU KNOW, IT MEANS SOMETHING HERE. AND ALL ALTHOUGH I TRUSTED MY COUNTY ATTORNEY I TOOK IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. WHILE I SHOULDN'T HAVE BECAUSE MR. SORIA WAS THAT MORE. HE HAS SERVED THE COUNTY WITH DISTINCTION. I AM NOT HAPPY TO SEE HIM GO ONE WAY BECAUSE AGAIN OF THE GREAT SERVICE OF THE COUNTY IN THE COUNTY'S OFFICE, HE IS A HE HAS A CAREER OPPORTUNITY THAT I'M GLAD FOR HIS CAREER ENHANCEMENT. AS A PROFESSIONAL THAT HE DESERVES ANY GREAT OPPORTUNITY THAT HE CAN HAVE.

AND WITH THAT, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME, MR. CHAIR. I WANTED TO GIVE THE PUBLIC

THANKS TO MR. SORIA. >> MR. SORIA THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEWJOB. I WISH YOU THE BEST.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE AND HONOR TO SERVE THIS BOARD. YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL STAFF. AND I WISH THEM ALL THE BEST.

>> HE WILL BE MISSED. MR. COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC). >> I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING.

THE ONE THING ABOUT IT WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT OUR COATS AND ALL YOU LIGHT UP ABOUT IT AND NO --

YOU'RE EXCITED. >>.

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>> SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD

WORK AND GOOD LUCK. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> IN MY 40 YEAR CAREER, I WORKED WITH A LOT OF STATE AGENCY ATTORNEYS, REGIONAL ATTORNEYS AND CERTAINLY CITY AND COUNTY ATTORNEYS. YOU'RE ONE OF THE BEST SO ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU. I APPRECIATED YOUR SOUND ADVICE OF THE LAST THREE YEARS.

>> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. >> ANYTHING ELSE, PATRICK E.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE VERY WELL, THINK, DEFENDING THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DECISIONS ON ZONING AND LAND USE TYPES OF THINGS. AND I ASCRIBE A LARGE PART OF THAT TO MR. SORIA HAVING THE -- WORKING WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT WHEN THE APPLICATIONS COME TO THE BOARD. THE POSITION FOR THE BOARD TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION ON IT.

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