Sep 15, 2026 Board of County Commissioners

[Call to Order by Chair]

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GOOD MORNING. WE WILL BRING TO ORDER THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, AND WE ASK THE MADAM CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL CHAIR.

COMMISSIONER CLAY MURPHY PRESENT. VICE CHAIR.

COMMISSIONER ANN TAYLOR. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER.

CHRISTIAN. WHITEHURST. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER.

SARAH. ARNOLD. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER. CHRISTA JOSEPH.

PRESENT. THANK YOU. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE JOIN WITH ME BY STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION BY PASTOR EARL GLISSON, ANCHOR FAITH CHURCH, FOLLOWED CLOSELY BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY RICK MCALLISTER, SERGEANT, UNITED STATES ARMY. LET US PRAY. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT OUR HELP COMES FROM YOU, THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH. WE RECOGNIZE THAT WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, AND UNDERSTANDING ULTIMATELY COME FROM YOU, AND WE ASK FOR YOUR HAND TO REST UPON THIS BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND UPON EVERY PERSON ENTRUSTED WITH SERVING THIS COUNTY.

WE ASK THAT YOU DIRECT US, DIRECT THEM INTO YOUR LOVE AND THE STEADFASTNESS OF CHRIST.

GUARD THEIR MOTIVES, KEEP THEIR HEARTS ANCHORED IN WHAT IS RIGHT RATHER THAN WHAT IS MERELY POPULAR OR POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT.

GIVE THEM THE COURAGE TO STAND WHEN STANDING IS DIFFICULT AND THE HUMILITY TO LISTEN WHEN LISTENING IS NECESSARY.

THEREFORE, PROTECT THIS BOARD FROM CORRUPTION, IMPROPER INFLUENCE, SELFISH AMBITION, AND DECISIONS THAT COULD BE MOTIVATED BY PERSONAL GAIN. LET INTEGRITY BE STRONG, STRONGER THAN INFLUENCE AND PRINCIPLE.

STRONGER THAN PRESSURE. LORD, PUT WISDOM IN THEIR MOUTHS AND JUSTICE UPON THEIR TONGUES.

YOUR WORD DECLARES THAT THE MOUTH OF THE RIGHTEOUS UTTERS WISDOM AND HIS TONGUE SPEAKS JUSTICE.

MAKE THEIR EARS ATTENTIVE TO WISDOM. INCLINE THEIR HEARTS TOWARDS UNDERSTANDING.

THEREFORE, LET THE DECISIONS IN THIS CHAMBER BE MARKED BY WISDOM AND DISAGREEMENT.

BE GOVERNED BY HONOR. LET DEBATE PRODUCE UNDERSTANDING RATHER THAN DIVISION.

WHERE INFORMATION IS INCOMPLETE, GIVE THEM DISCERNMENT.

AND WHEN ISSUES ARE COMPLICATED, GIVE THEM CLARITY.

GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO SEE BEYOND TODAY'S DECISION AND UNDERSTAND TOMORROW'S CONSEQUENCES.

FATHER, GIVE THEM HEARTS. THEY CONSIDER OTHERS FIRST.

LET THEM NEVER BE SO OCCUPIED WITH BUDGETS, POLICIES, DEVELOPMENT, INFRASTRUCTURES, AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE BUSINESS OF GOVERNMENT THAT THEY LOSE SIGHT OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE CALLED TO SERVE.

GIVE THEM COMPASSION FOR THE VULNERABLE. CONSIDER RATION FOR THOSE WITHOUT A VOICE AND WISDOM THAT NEEDS TO EXIST, THAT EXISTS THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTY AS THEY DO THIS.

MAY YOUR BLESSING REST UPON THEM. AND FINALLY, LORD, WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GUARD THEIR GOING OUT AND THEY'RE COMING IN.

PROTECT THEM FROM EVIL AND FROM EVERY INFLUENCE THAT WOULD SEEK TO DISTRACT, DISCOURAGE, INTIMIDATE, OR COMPROMISE THEM. DELIVER THEM IN THE DAYS OF TROUBLE.

THEREFORE, WE ASK THAT YOU WATCH OVER THESE COMMISSIONERS EVEN WHEN THEY CANNOT SEE EVERYTHING HAPPENING AROUND THEM, PROTECT THEM, PRESERVE THEM, AND GUARD THEIR LIVES, THEIR FAMILIES, AND THEIR SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY.

AND MAY THEY WORK CARRIED OUT HERE, CONTRIBUTE TO THE COUNTIES, COUNTIES WHERE FAMILIES CAN FLOURISH.

COMMUNITIES CAN PROSPER, RIGHTEOUSNESS CAN BE HONORED, AND PEACE CAN PREVAIL.

WE ASK THIS IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. AMEN. AND SERGEANT RICK MCALLISTER, IF I CAN INVITE YOU TO THE PODIUM.

GOOD MORNING SIR. PLEASE JOIN ME. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED.

GOOD MORNING. I'D LIKE TO CALL BETH PELTZER UP.

[Proclamation Recognizing Constitution Week ]

AND SHE'S ALWAYS WEARING A HAT, SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE SHE'S COMING FROM.

YEAH. OH, YOU AREN'T, BUT YOUR FELLOW DA MEMBERS ARE.

SO A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA.

WHEREAS, IN ORDER TO SECURE THE BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY TO THEMSELVES AND THEIR POSTERITY, OUR FOUNDING FATHERS ORDAINED AND ESTABLISHED A CONSTITUTION FOR OUR NEW NATION. SIGNING IT ON SEPTEMBER 17TH, 1787. AND WHEREAS EACH YEAR ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE ENACTING OF THE CONSTITUTION, WE HONOR THE FRAMERS OF THE CONSTITUTION AS WELL AS THE GLORIOUS NATION BUILT UPON THE FOUNDATION THEY PROVIDED.

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AND WHEREAS, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT ALL AMERICANS UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THE PROVISIONS AND PRINCIPLES INCLUDED IN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES TO BETTER SUPPORT, PRESERVE AND DEFEND IT. WITHOUT THE CONSTITUTION, THE SUPREME LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES, WE THE PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE GUARANTEED OUR MANY FREEDOMS OR THE BENEFITS OF A GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE.

AND NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY THAT SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2026 BE DESIGNATED AS CONSTITUTION WEEK PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA. THIS 15TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2026. I'D LIKE TO.

I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COUNTY SO MUCH FOR THIS PROCLAMATION, AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE ALL OF YOU ON THURSDAY AT BEGINNING AT 345 TO THE RINGING OF THE BELLS. THIS IS A NATIONWIDE EVENT FROM HERE, ACTUALLY, IT GOES DOWN TO AUSTRALIA TOO, BECAUSE WE HAVE CHAPTERS IN AUSTRALIA AND IN EUROPE, AND THEY WILL BE RINGING BELLS AT 4:00 EASTERN TIME TO SIGNIFY THE SIGNING OF THE CONSTITUTION. WE JUST CELEBRATED 250TH BIRTHDAY OF THE SIGNING OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.

THE DA AND THE CITY SA AND OTHER COMMUNITY GROUPS WILL BE HAVING ACTIVITIES ALL THROUGH FOR THE NEXT NINE YEARS, CELEBRATING THE BIRTH OF OUR NATION AND OUR TWO FOUNDING DOCUMENTS.

WE HOPE YOU WILL JOIN US ON THURSDAY AT 345 FOR THE RINGING OF THE BELLS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK MR. WAYNE LARSEN TO COME UP.

[Certificate of Recognition for SJC Public Affairs on earning the 2026 Silver Pinnacle Award ]

I'D REALLY LIKE TO BRING THE WHOLE TEAM UP, BUT I KNOW SOME OF THEM ARE WORKING. SO, MR..

TOM, YOU GUYS BACK THERE IN THE BACK, IF YOU'D COME ON, IF YOU CAN PUT THINGS ON HOLD JUST FOR A MINUTE AND COME ON UP HERE FOR A SECOND. THANK YOU. IF EVERYTHING GOES ON THE FRITZ FOR JUST A MINUTE, FORGIVE US BECAUSE THE WHOLE TEAM IS HERE.

GREAT. WHAT A GOOD LOOKING BUNCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'M GOING TO SAY JUST A JUST A JUST A WORD. AND THEN I'M GOING TO PASS THIS OVER TO WAYNE.

BUT THIS PARTICULAR GROUP RIGHT HERE HAS WON AGAIN.

2026, THE SILVER PINNACLE AWARD FOR GOVERNMENT TEAM OF THE YEAR, AND WE ARE SO PROUD OF THEM.

SO, WAYNE, COME UP. WELL, ON BEHALF OF THE TEAM, WE JUST WANT TO APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF ADMINISTRATION, THE BOARD, ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT PARTNERS OUT THERE IN THE BACK ARE PEERS, THE COMMUNITY, FOR ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL THE STORIES OF THE PEOPLE, THE PROGRAMS, AND THE PLACES THAT MAKE UP OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT ALLOW US TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY TRUST PILLAR OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO WE APPRECIATE APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE SUPPORT WE GET. SO THANK YOU.

EXACTLY. JUST A LITTLE BIT.

EVERYBODY. GET YOUR SOCKS.

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[Certificate of Recognition for Malinda Peeples ]

THAT HAS MEANT SO MUCH, EVEN IN THE SHADOWS. AND SO WE'RE BRINGING HER OUT OF THE SHADOWS THIS MORNING.

WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW HER TO COME UP HERE. AND, MISS PEEPLES, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, AND YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY AND YOUR ENTIRE SUPPORT GROUP.

COME ON UP. LET'S TALK ABOUT MELINDA PEEPLES.

I CAN SAY FOR THE 35 YEARS I'VE LIVED HERE, SHE'S BEEN SUPPORTING THE ARMSTRONG COMMUNITY IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY AS A WHOLE.

BUT I THINK IT GOES WAY BACK. SO WE WOULD JUST LOVE TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOVE ON YOU A LITTLE BIT THIS MORNING.

COME ON UP. WE GET A PROCLAMATION.

YEAH, I'M JUST GOING TO REAL BRIEFLY SAY HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE MISS PEEPLES AND THE THINGS THAT SHE'S DONE.

I ALSO WANT TO CAUTION SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE IN THE CROWD HERE.

I'VE HEARD THEM SPEAK BEFORE, AND WE WON'T LET THEM COME UP AND SPEAK ALL MORNING.

SO I'M JUST JUST TEASING. THANK YOU DEAR. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? NO, JUST SAY THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO SAY THANK YOU.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS? YEAH.

COME ON. THANK YOU ALL. HI. HELLO. MY NAME IS CHARLES, AND I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT HELPED OUT MELINDA WITH THE THINGS THAT SHE DOES.

AND THIS IS A CELEBRATION ABOUT A RECENT PROJECT THAT SHE'S DONE.

AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST CELEBRATION THAT SHE'S THAT THEY HAD FOR HER.

AND I'M SURE IT WON'T BE THE LAST CELEBRATION.

SHE'S BEEN HELPING THE COMMUNITY FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

YOU WORK FOR MELINDA, YOU BECOME ADDICTED. AND SHE CAN'T HELP HERSELF.

AND I REALIZE AFTER WORKING WITH HER. SHE'S ADDICTED.

SHE HELPS ANYBODY ANYWHERE. SHE PASSES BY MY HOUSE WITH A PICKUP TRUCK, AND YOU MIGHT SEE A REFRIGERATOR IN IT OR A BICYCLE OR SOMETHING IN IT.

I GOT THIS WALKER BECAUSE OF HER. AND THERE'S IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S OVERWHELMING.

I'M SURE THERE'S MANY PEOPLE. THIS IS A SMALL GROUP OF, OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN HELPING HER.

AND I ONCE YOU WORK FOR HER, YOU COULD UNDERSTAND.

WHAT AM I DOING HERE, YOU KNOW? AND THEN YOU WONDER, WHERE DOES SHE FIND THE TIME? AND THEN I'M A, I HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR. I TELL MY WIFE SHE MUST HAVE A DIRTY HOUSE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHERE DOES SHE FIND THE TIME? AND SHE DOESN'T SAY NO TO ANYBODY.

IF SHE DOESN'T HAVE SOMETHING, SHE'LL FIND IT.

SHE'LL GET IT FOR YOU. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I WANT TO SAY.

AND YOU SAID IT VERY ELOQUENTLY TOO, SIR. PUT US WHERE YOU WANT US, TYLER.

YOU STAY IN THE MIDDLE. THE REST OF US. LEFT AND RIGHT.

AND THE SHORTER ONES UP FRONT.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CAN EVERYBODY SEE ME? ONE.

TWO. THREE. ONE. TWO. THREE. THANK YOU.

GREAT. THANKS. HI. GOOD MORNING. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO HAVE KIM HARRISON COME ON UP.

KIM HARRISON OF ELKTON IS THE NORTH FLORIDA ADVOCACY COORDINATOR FOR THE US FOR THE UNITED SPINAL ASSOCIATION.

AND MISS HARRISON HAS ASKED US TO RECOGNIZE SEPTEMBER AS NATIONAL SPINAL CORD INJURY AWARENESS MONTH.

IN 2014, THE UNITED STATES SENATE DESIGNATED SEPTEMBER AS NATIONAL SPINAL.

SPINAL CORD INJURY AWARENESS MONTH TO INCREASE AWARENESS, SUPPORT, CONTINUED RESEARCH, AND RECOGNIZE THE INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS WORKING TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF PEOPLE AFFECTED BY SPINAL CORD INJURIES.

A SPINAL CORD INJURY CAN CAUSE TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT CHANGES IN STRENGTH, SENSATION, MOBILITY, AND OTHER FUNCTIONS. EACH CASE IS UNIQUE AND AFFECTS EACH PERSON'S LIFE IN A DIFFERENT WAY, PRESENTING SIGNIFICANT PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL, AND PRACTICAL CHALLENGES.

THESE INJURIES CAN RESULT FROM CAR ACCIDENTS, FROM FALLS, ACTS OF VIOLENCE, SPORTS, RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND NON-TRAUMATIC INJURIES SUCH AS SPINAL DISEASE.

REGARDLESS OF THE CAUSE, SPINAL CORD INJURIES CAN ALTER AN INDIVIDUAL'S LIFE FOREVER.

APPROXIMATELY 18,000 NEW SPINAL CORD INJURIES OCCUR EACH YEAR, AND THERE'S MORE THAN 300 000 PEOPLE IN THE U.S.

THAT ARE CURRENTLY LIVING WITH SPINAL CORD INJURIES.

SPINAL CORD INJURY AWARENESS MONTH PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE UNDERSTANDING AND AWARENESS AND RECOGNIZE THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF PEOPLE LIVING WITH SPINAL CORD INJURIES, SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES AND CAREGIVERS, AND PROMOTE RESEARCH, TREATMENT, INDEPENDENCE, AND IMPROVED QUALITY OF LIFE. WE WANT TO THANK MISS HARRISON AND THE UNITED SPINAL ASSOCIATION FOR THEIR ADVOCACY AND WORK ON BEHALF OF INDIVIDUAL AND INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES AFFECTED BY SPINAL CORD INJURIES.

AND I'D LOVE TO HAVE HER SHARE A FEW WORDS. SHE'S A VERY UNIQUE STORY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ANN, FOR THE KIND RECOGNITION FOR SPINAL CORD INJURY AWARENESS MONTH.

AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. AS THE NORTH FLORIDA CHAPTER ADVOCACY COORDINATOR FOR THE UNITED SPINAL.

I APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION. EXCUSE ME. WE LIVE IN A CITY THAT'S 461 YEARS OLD, SO OBVIOUSLY IT WAS BUILT LONG BEFORE ADA.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF FIXING WE NEED TO DO. AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK AND HOW THE COMMISSIONERS ARE STRIVING TO MAKE US A MORE INCLUSIVE, INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY. JUST REAL QUICK, 20 YEARS AGO, I WOKE UP, MY RIGHT FOOT WAS ASLEEP, AND WITHIN FOUR HOURS I WAS PARALYZED FROM THE WAIST DOWN. AND THEY STILL DON'T KNOW WHY. SO ANYONE IN THIS ROOM COULD JOIN THIS CLUB AT ANY MOMENT AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO.

SO I CHALLENGE EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM TODAY. WHEN YOU WALK OUT, LOOK FOR ONE THING THAT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT.

IS THERE A BARRIER? IS SOMETHING BLOCKED? CAN SOMEONE GET IN AND OUT? CAN A VISUALLY IMPAIRED PERSON GET THERE? CAN SOMEONE WITH A HEARING IMPAIRMENT HAVE ASL? SO I CHALLENGE EVERYONE IN HERE. BE AN ADVOCATE.

AND WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE TODAY, FIND ONE PLACE AND SPEAK UP.

TELL THEM SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT AND LET'S MAKE IT RIGHT.

I NEED ALLIES, WE ALL DO. SO SPEAK UP WITH US.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU AGAIN. COMMISSIONERS.

OKAY. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATIONS.

[Acceptance of Proclamations ]

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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AND OPPOSED? THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. DELETIONS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[Deletions to Consent Agenda ]

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. I HAVE NONE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

NONE. AND, MR. TAYLOR? I DO, I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18.

OKAY. CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18. DO YOU WANT TO ADD THAT TO THE REGULAR AGENDA? NO. WE CAN JUST REMOVE IT AND BRING IT BACK AT A LATER DATE.

OKAY. WE WANT TO SET ASIDE AGENDA. CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 18. FOR THE NEXT MEETING. STAFF HAS SOME THINGS TO LOOK AT WITH THAT PARTICULAR ONE. SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW LONG THAT TAKES. DOES THAT GIVE STAFF ENOUGH TIME, OR DO WE WANT TO JUST PUT IT BACK ON THE SCHEDULE WHENEVER STAFF'S READY WHEN IT WHEN IT'S READY.

OKAY. THOMPSON. THERE YOU GO. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO TIMELINESS THAT NEEDS TO OKAY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE RIGHT HERE. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE RYAN? YEAH. THANK YOU. LEX. SORRY. SO I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO RYAN.

THERE'S ENOUGH TIME. IF EVERYTHING GETS WORKED OUT FOR THEM, FOR US TO TAKE THIS UP AT THE NEXT MEETING.

AND AND BUT WE MAY NOT GET IT FINISHED BY THEN.

AND THEN THEY CAN JUST, THEY CAN SHUFFLE AROUND AND FIGURE IT OUT, BUT THERE'S NOT ANY REAL PROBLEMS. OKAY. GOOD DEAL. SO WE'LL JUST SET IT ASIDE UNTIL STAFF'S READY.

AND I AND I HAVE NOTHING EITHER. SO I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE.

[Approval of Consent Agenda]

WE HAVE A MOTION. I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AND OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. ADDITIONS. DELETIONS TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, I HAVE NONE.

[Additions/Deletions to Regular Agenda ]

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. OH! SORRY. FORGIVE ME.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I DO HAVE A QUESTION THROUGH THE CHAIR TO.

OKAY. JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE PAST THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THIS APPLICATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? HELP HER OUT. MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. NO, IT'S NOT ON. IT WAS GREEN FOR A SECOND THROUGH THE CHAIR TO COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

SO, YES, THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE OF THE DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICATION HAS CLOSED.

YOU'RE STILL IN COMMISSIONER DELIBERATIONS LIKE WE ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING.

WE STILL DO NEED AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE FROM THE COMMISSION PURSUANT TO YOUR BOARD RULES.

OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO ENCOURAGE ANYBODY WHO'S HERE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, TO PERHAPS DO THAT IN NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE INTO THE REGULAR AGENDA.

SO IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON TWO, YOU CAN SPEAK DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. LET ME JUST ASK A LEGAL QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

IF ANYTHING IS PRESENTED IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT THAT HAS NOT BEEN PRESENTED BEFORE, DOES THAT GIVE THE APPLICANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT IF THE COMMISSION IF THE COMMISSION TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION SOMETHING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF WHAT WAS ALREADY THE NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING, THEN YES, THAT WOULD GIVE THE APPLICANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ANY REBUTTAL TO WHAT YOU WERE CONSIDERING.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR.

I HAVE NONE. OKAY. AND I HAVE NONE. THROUGH. THROUGH THE CHAIR.

YES, MA'AM. JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE. SO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

THAT IS THE SANDY CREEK AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE CERTIFICATION INSERT 2020 607.

THE APPLICATION HAS WITHDRAWN. THE APPLICANT HAS WITHDRAWN THEIR APPLICATION.

CHAIR, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SURE. MR. JOSEPH.

OH, SORRY. THANK YOU. CHAIR. WHEN WAS THAT WITHDRAWN.

SO IT WAS WITHDRAWN. I RECEIVED NOTIFICATION FIRST THIS MORNING, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT CAME IN YESTERDAY, LATE IN THE AFTERNOON. THE COUNTY HAS HAD TROUBLE RECEIVING OUTSIDE EMAILS AND SO THERE WAS A THERE COMMISSIONER AWARE THAT THERE WAS A DELAY IN THAT COMING THROUGH. SO THEY WOULD THEY HAVE WITHDRAWN AS OF YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.

ALL RIGHT. IF IN THE FUTURE WE COULD GET THAT SOONER, THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE I SPENT LAST NIGHT KIND OF LOOKING AT IT.

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OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT WORKS. NOT FOR NAUGHT, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER. I'D LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL OF THE REGULAR AGENDA, AS AMENDED.

[Approval of Regular Agenda ]

I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE.

OKAY. ANY OPPOSED? COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, DO YOU? OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I WAS PUSHING BUTTONS UP HERE.

WE HAVE A TIME. CERTAIN MEETING AT 930. I HAVE 926.

CAN WE GO EARLY RECESS UNTIL 930? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT THE MEETING. PLEASE, SIR. IF.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE A TIME. CERTAIN AT 930.

WE WILL TAKE A RECESS FOR THREE MINUTES, AND THEN WE WILL MEET IN THE IN THE MEETING AT 930.

SO WE STAND IN RECESS. OKAY. WE'RE BACK IN SESSION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA EARLIER, I REALIZED THAT I HAD MISSED PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ONLY.

MADAM VICE CHAIR, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. GREAT. AT THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. COME ON UP. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. GOOD MORNING.

HI. TOM REYNOLDS, 1244 MILE 32084. I JUST WANT TO DO A BIG THANK YOU TO COMMISSIONER ANN TAYLOR FOR PULLING NUMBER 18 OUT AND BRINGING SOME MORE OPENNESS AND TRANSPARENCY TO THAT ITEM.

ALSO, I'D LIKE TO DO A THANK YOU. SHOUT OUT TO THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY FIRE RESCUE AND US CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION, OFFICE OF AIR AND MARINE NATIONAL CENTER FOR MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT OF FIRE RESCUE MARINE ASSETS THAT THEY'RE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ALSO, I GOT TO TELL YOU FOLKS, NUMBER NINE, I KNOW IT'S JUST A SIMPLE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE, BUT I GOT TO TELL YOU WHAT A GREAT, GREAT ORGANIZATION THE POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE IS.

I HAVEN'T HAD ANY CONTACT IN THE LAST 2 OR 3 YEARS.

BUT BACK, YOU KNOW, I WAS A WIDOWED FATHER AND THEY REALLY HELPED ME WITH MY SONS.

AND THEY REALLY HAVE GREAT, GREAT PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE.

THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MARY ANN COLLINS.

MARY? YES. THIS IS JUST CONSENT AGENDA. ARE YOU HERE TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? YES. OKAY. GO AHEAD. SORRY. OKAY. MY NAME IS MARY ANN COLLINS.

I LIVE AT 1488 COUNTY ROAD, 13, SOUTH SAINT AUGUSTINE.

32092. I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN ITEM NUMBER 16.

HOWEVER, MANY OF YOU HAVE VISITED THE AGRICULTURE EXTENSION CENTER OVER THE YEARS.

BUT DO YOU KNOW WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO? THE MASTER GARDENER PROGRAM IS PART OF THE EXTENSION.

AND WE ARE MORE THAN JUST PULLING WEEDS AND GROWING PLANTS.

WE'RE A SELF FUNDED GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS 108 STRONG.

ALL THE MONEY WE RECEIVED IS RAISED THROUGH OUR PLANT SALES.

WE TAILOR OUR OUTREACH TO MEET THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

SHARING KNOWLEDGE ON TOPICS SUCH AS FOOD, GARDENING, PEST MANAGEMENT, PROPER FERTILIZATION USAGE, WATER CONSERVATION, INSECT AND DISEASE CONTROL, AND MANY MORE.

WE EDUCATE THE PUBLIC, CHILDREN AND ADULTS TO PROTECT OUR WATERWAYS FROM FERTILIZERS, WEED KILLERS, ETC.. WE WORK IN SCHOOLS COUNCIL AND AGING ARC HOMELESS COALITION.

SAINT JOHN'S ECUMENICAL FOOD PANTRY, TO NAME A FEW.

DESIGNING GARDENS, GIVING SUPPLIES, TEACHING, GIVING WORKSHOPS AND MENTORING TO MAINTAIN THE GARDENS THAT WE SET UP.

WE TURN CONVERSATIONS INTO MOMENTS OF LEARNING.

WE RECEIVE NO COMPENSATION FOR TRAVEL OR ANY EXPENSES WE INCUR, AND ALL OF OUR SERVICES ARE FREE.

SINCE JANUARY 2ND TO THE PRESENT DATE, WE HAVE SERVED.

WE HAVE VOLUNTEERED 8753.48 HOURS AND THE YEAR IS FAR FROM OVER.

IF THOSE HOURS ARE PAID AT THE RATE OF $20 AN HOUR, THAT EQUATES TO $175,069.60.

AT A MERE $15 AN HOUR, IT STILL RACKS UP TO $131,302.20.

AND THAT'S QUITE A CONTRIBUTION TO OUR COUNTY.

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WE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND OUR ENVIRONMENT, OUR SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH EMAIL, PHONE CALLS AND DROPPING IN FOR FREE, RELIABLE RESEARCH INFORMATION. I RECENTLY READ THAT THE FLORIDA REALTORS TRADE GROUP SAW $10 MILLION TO SUPPORT AMENDMENT THREE. IF IT PASSES, THIS WILL BE A LOSS OF MILLIONS TO OUR COUNTY.

BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT IT WILL BE MADE UP ELSEWHERE.

NOTHING IS FREE. OUR MOU EXPIRES ON SEPTEMBER 30TH.

WE'RE ITEM NUMBER 16 ON THE AGENDA AND IT'S TO EXTEND IT FOR ONLY THREE MONTHS.

SO MY QUESTION IS THIS IS THIS A CONTRACTUAL OR A BUDGET ISSUE.

IF CONTRACTUAL, WILL YOU SHARE WITH US WHO IS REPRESENTING UF IFAS IN THE CURRENT NEGOTIATIONS SO THAT THE RESIDENTS AND EXTENSION VOLUNTEERS MAY DIRECT OUR CONCERNS TO THE APPROPRIATE DECISION MAKERS WITHOUT CLARIFICATION SPECULATION WILL FILL IN THE GAPS, SUCH AS THE EXTENSION CENTER IS CLOSING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT. COME ON UP. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS PATTY AND I'M ALSO A MASTER GARDENER VOLUNTEER.

I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE REALLY POSITIVE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE WITH CHILDREN FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

THE MASTER GARDENER PROGRAM HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN SCHOOLS AND GARDENING IN SCHOOLS.

WE HAVE TAUGHT NUTRITION, PULMONARY GARDENING, COMPOSTING, AND THEY GET TO DO THEIR OWN VEGETABLE GARDEN.

OUR GARDEN CURRICULUM IS MATCHED WITH SUNSHINE STATE STANDARDS FOR SCIENCE AND ALSO GRADE LEVEL CURRICULUM.

SO WE. WE ARE CONFORMING WITH WHAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND.

AND CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE DOING. CURRENTLY, VOLUNTEERS ARE WORKING IN FIVE SCHOOLS, WHICH MEANS WE ARE IMPACTING WELL OVER HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN IN IN THE GARDENING ACTIVITIES. AND ALL CHILDREN, REGARDLESS OF ABILITY, ARE INCLUDED IN HANDS ON EXPERIENCES AND THE REWARD OF GROWING THEIR OWN VEGETABLES. SO WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? THIS CURRICULUM. WHILE IT IS BENEFICIAL, IT ALSO.

THE GARDENING AND PROGRAM ALSO ENABLES STUDENTS TO BEGIN TO LEARN OUTSIDE OF THE CLASSROOM AND OUTSIDE OF THE MEDIA AGENDA. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT CHILDREN ARE HEAVILY RELIANT ON SCREEN MEDIA, AND THIS HAS RAISED A PUBLIC NATIONAL HEALTH CONCERN. WE READ ABOUT IT IN THE NEWS.

WE KNOW ABOUT IT. RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT POTENTIAL HARM TO COGNITIVE, LINGUISTIC AND AND SOCIAL EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT CAN BE VERY NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY TOO MUCH SCREEN TIME.

SO THE MASTER GARDENER PROGRAM GIVES STUDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT OUTSIDE, IN THE OUTSIDE THE CLASSROOM, AND WHICH PROMOTES BOTH MENTAL HEALTH AND PHYSICAL HEALTH.

SPECIFICALLY, THEY LEARN SELF-REGULATION, PATIENCE, AND SKILLS FOR THE FUTURE COGNITIVE GROWTH AND SUPPORT FOR BEING MORE RESPONSIBLE.

I'M GOING TO TALK VERY FAST AND TELL YOU AN ANECDOTE.

LAST YEAR I WORKED WITH A SEVEN YEAR OLD CHILD AT A SCHOOL.

HE HAD SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYS AND HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO BE RETAINED.

HE CAME TO ME THIS YEAR AND HE SAID TO ME, MISS PATTY, MISS PATTY, I TOLD YOU I WAS GOING TO SEND ANOTHER YEAR IN SECOND GRADE.

NOW I'M THE SMARTEST GARDENER IN MY CLASS. SOMETHING TO BE REMEMBERED.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COME ON. UP NEXT. GOOD MORNING. HELLO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING US BE HERE AND SPEAK TO YOU ON THESE, YOU KNOW, THESE EVENTS TODAY.

MY NAME IS THERESA PETRILLI, AND I'M ALSO A MASTER GARDENER.

WE BUILD COMMUNITY. THE MASTER GARDENING PROGRAM BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE WHO WANT TO SHARE THEIR KNOWLEDGE, SERVE THEIR NEIGHBORS, AND MAKE SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY A BETTER PLACE.

WE HAVE CREATED FRIENDSHIPS, SUPPORTED ONE ANOTHER, EDUCATED OUR COMMUNITY, AND PROVIDED COUNTLESS HOURS OF VOLUNTEER SERVICE.

FOR ME PERSONALLY, THE PROGRAM HAS MEANT FAR MORE THAN I EXPECTED.

AFTER MY CHILDREN LEFT HOME TO ATTEND COLLEGE AND BEGIN THEIR ADULT LIVES, I WENT THROUGH A VERY DIFFICULT PERIOD OF DEPRESSION THAT LASTED FOR OVER A YEAR.

I KNEW I NEEDED TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WOULD GIVE ME A NEW SENSE OF PURPOSE, AND ALLOW ME TO MEET PEOPLE AND BECOME MORE INVOLVED IN MY COMMUNITY.

THAT IS WHEN I FOUND THE MASTER GARDENER PROGRAM.

IT GAVE ME AN OUTLET. IT GAVE ME WONDERFUL NEW FRIENDSHIPS.

IT GAVE ME A REASON TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE AND BECOME INVOLVED AGAIN.

AND QUITE LITERALLY, IT GAVE ME A PLACE WHERE I COULD GET MY HANDS DIRTY IN THE SOIL AND CLEANSE MY MIND.

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EVERY EVENT, EVERY CLASS, EVERY CONVERSATION, AND EVERY PERSON I HAVE MET THROUGH THE MASTER GARDENERS HAS ADDED SOMETHING MEANINGFUL TO MY LIFE. I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR COUNTY MUST MAKE DIFFICULT FINANCIAL DECISIONS, AND I RESPECT THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT COMES WITH MANAGING TAXPAYERS DOLLARS.

BUT I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT BEFORE ANY DECISIONS ARE MADE THAT COULD AFFECT THE MASTER GARDENER PROGRAM, THAT THE COUNTY. TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THE TREMENDOUS RETURN THIS VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION PROVIDES.

ELIMINATING OR SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING THIS PROGRAM WOULD NOT SIMPLY MEAN LOSING A GARDENING RESOURCE.

IT WOULD MEAN LOSING A NETWORK OF VOLUNTEERS WHO EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS, SERVE OUR CHILDREN, SUPPORT LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, AND CONNECT PEOPLE AND NATURE, AND STRENGTHEN THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME, IT WOULD MEAN LOSING A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE FOUND PURPOSE, FRIENDSHIP, SERVICE, AND JOY. I HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER THE MASTER GARDENER PROGRAM NOT MERELY AS ANOTHER LINE ON THE BUDGET, BUT AS AN INVESTMENT IN THE PEOPLE OF SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY.

PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO LEARN ABOUT EVERYTHING OUR MASTER GARDENERS DO BEFORE MAKING DECISIONS THAT COULD PUT THIS PROGRAM AT RISK.

WE ARE PROUD TO SERVE SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY, AND WE HOPE TO CONTINUE DOING SO FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI, I'M GLORIA OBI. I'M GLORIA OBI AND I LIVE AT 1200 BUCKHORN WAY, SAINT AUGUSTINE 32092. THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF MARY ANN COLLINS PRESENTATION.

PART OF THE SPECULATION IS THE COUNTY HAS EYES ON THE AG PROPERTY FOR USE OTHER THAN AS THE EXTENSION SERVICES.

AFTER ALL, WE DID LOSE OUR ADJACENT BUILDING TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WHERE WE USE WHERE WE HOLD HELD FOUR-H CLASSES.

IF YOUR INTENT IS TO RELOCATE US, THEN OUR COMMISSIONERS WILL NOT BE SERVING THE DISTRICT NOR OUR COUNTY.

WE ARE CENTRALLY LOCATED WITH EASY ACCESS FOR ALL RESIDENTS.

IF YOU'RE CONSIDERING OUR MOVE, MOST LIKELY IT WILL BE TO THE HASTINGS EXTENSION OFFICE.

THIS IS A STATE BUILDING AND NOT COUNTY ESTABLISHED FOR RESEARCH ONLY.

IF WE COULD UTILIZE IT, IT'S NOT EASILY ACCESSIBLE TO MORE THAN THREE QUARTERS OF THE COUNTY, AND THE FACILITY IS INADEQUATE TO HOUSE ALL THE PROGRAMS CURRENTLY AT OUR PRESENT LOCATION.

AGRICULTURE FOUR-H AND THE MASTER GARDENER VOLUNTEER PROGRAM.

IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING TAKING THE AG CENTER FOR COUNTY USE MORE GOVERNMENT.

WELL, HOW DOES THAT HELP OUR RESIDENTS GET THE FREE SERVICES WE PROVIDE? YOU'LL BE FORCING OUR RESIDENTS TO SEEK HELP ELSEWHERE AND PAY FOR SERVICES WE PROVIDE FOR FREE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I AGREE. EDITOR SLAVEN FOX 304.

CANDIDATE FOR ANASTASIA MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, SEAT TWO.

PLEASE TAKE ITEM NUMBER TEN OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA AND ITEM NUMBER 16 OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AS WOODROW WILSON WOULD SAY, OPEN COVENANTS OPENLY ARRIVED AT.

I AGREE WITH THE ISSUE ABOUT THE MASTER GARDENERS CONTRACT AND THE UF IFAS.

IT'S KIND OF STINKY. ITEM TEN MR. BEDSOLE CONTRACT COMMISSIONER SANDY FLOWERS OF THE SAINT AUGUSTINE PORT WATERWAY AND BEACH DISTRICT, AND I AND OTHERS SPOKE ABOUT MR. BEDSOLE AT A PRIOR MEETING.

AND FOR THAT REASON OH, DID YOU KNOW THAT THE SAINT AUGUSTINE PORT WATERWAY AND BEACH DISTRICT GENERALLY SCHEDULES THEIR MEETINGS TO CONFLICT DIRECTLY WITH THE MEETINGS OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS? AND THEY'VE TOLD ME FOR YEARS, OH, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS NEEDS TO CHANGE THEIR MEETING TIME. I DON'T THINK SO. SO PLEASE MAKE MR. BEDSOLE COME BACK AND EXPLAIN AGAIN WHY HE SHOULD HAVE A NO BID CONTRACT AND BASED UPON HIS BEHAVIOR AT THE PORT, WATERWAY AND BEACH DISTRICT, WHICH WAS HIDEOUS.

I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD EXTEND HIS CONTRACT WITHOUT A VOTE, WITHOUT A DISCUSSION, WITHOUT HIM APPEARING HERE ONCE AGAIN, AS HE DID UNDER THE PRIOR COUNTY ATTORNEY. FINALLY, I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THE MOTION THAT MR. WHITEHURST MADE EARLIER RELATING TO ITEM TWO ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.

THERE WASN'T TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE WEREN'T ASKED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A SNEAK ATTACK LIKE PEARL HARBOR TO SAY HE GETS TO CLARIFY WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, HIS BUDDY, ABOUT THE SCOPE OF PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY ON ITEM TWO.

THE PONTE VEDRA PROJECT, THE FOLKS OVER HERE, THE DAVIS FAMILY, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CAME TO THIS MEETING AFTER SEEING COMMISSIONER ELECT MOCCIA ON FACEBOOK.

PEOPLE WHO CAME TO THIS MEETING EXPECTING TO SPEAK, AND IT WAS WRONGFULLY STATED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

HE DOESN'T GET TO RULE ON ANYTHING. HE'S JUST THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. HE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

BUT PLEASE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WOULD SOMEONE KINDLY MAKE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT INSERT ITEM AND LET THE PUBLIC BE HEARD? BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMING TO THIS AUDITORIUM.

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WE WILL BE ORDERING HERE. AND LET ME JUST POINT UP THERE TO THE RULES.

PLEASE FOLLOW THE RULES. I ALWAYS DO SO. AND YOU SHOULD TOO.

SO ANYWAY, WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE MAKE A PROPER MOTION SHOWING COMPASSION TO THE PEOPLE WHO DROVE ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE, WALKED, TOOK CABS OR WHATEVER TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM AND WANT TO BE HEARD.

PLEASE REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE TO SPEAK.

AND DON'T LET ROGERS TOWERS TAKE AWAY OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS EVER AGAIN.

THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WITH A COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? PLEASE COME ON UP. OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.

OH. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ON CONSENT? YOU DON'T? OKAY. GREAT. I WOULD LIKE TO, IF I MAY, CHAIR.

YES, MA'AM. YOU MAY. OKAY, GREAT. FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK THE WONDERFUL VOLUNTEERS FROM THE MASTER GARDENER PROGRAM.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

YOU'RE A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL RESOURCE TO THE MEMBERS IN THIS COMMUNITY, SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK FOR A SECOND, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT WE DON'T APPRECIATE YOU BECAUSE THAT COULD NOT BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO, IN ADDITION TO THOSE OF YOU THAT COULD BE HERE TODAY, YOU KNOW, WE AS A BOARD HAVE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF EMAILS ALSO ON THIS TOPIC, NOT ONLY ADDRESSING THE MASTER GARDENER PROGRAM, BUT ALSO THE FOUR-H PROGRAM AND THE UF IFAS EXTENSION.

IN FACT, AND ALSO RECENTLY I ATTENDED THE AG COMMITTEE MEETING AND THIS TOPIC CAME UP THERE AS WELL.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY, VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO INTENTION OF ELIMINATING THE FOUR-H PROGRAM OR THE MASTER GARDENER PROGRAM.

IT'S A WONDERFUL VOLUNTEER PROGRAM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS COMING FROM, I HAVE TO BE HONEST.

I DO WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT CLEARLY, OF COURSE, WE ARE ALL PAYING ATTENTION TO AMENDMENT THREE AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON THE BALLOT, BUT THE COUNTY ACTUALLY HAS BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY AND REALLY HARD WITH UF ON THEIR CONTRACT SINCE JANUARY, SINCE JANUARY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ALL AWARE, BUT THE BALL IS IN THEIR COURT.

IT IS NOT IN THE COUNTY'S COURT. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE IT'S JANUARY, SO IF YOU WANT TO CONTACT ANYONE, PLEASE REACH OUT TO THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE THE REASON FOR THE HOLD UP ON THIS CONTRACT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT INFORMATION YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN, BUT I WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR THAT WE ARE DOING ALL WE CAN AT OUR END, AND NOW IT IS UP TO THEM. THIS ONE WAS EXTENDED.

I HAVE TO BE HONEST, I WASN'T A BIG FAN OF JUST DOING THE EXTENSION.

BUT WE DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROGRAM DOES CONTINUE.

SO IT AND THAT BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO COMMENT OR I KNOW SOMEBODY ASKED WHO WHO TO CONTACT.

I KNOW THE EXECUTIVE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, TIM WILSON.

HE WILL KNOW AT UF WHO, WHO YOU CAN CONTACT, YOU KNOW, CONTACT US, BUT PLEASE JUST KNOW LOUD AND CLEAR THAT THE BALL IS IN THEIR COURT.

OKAY. THANKS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK WE HAVE TIME FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT NOW.

OH, DO WE HAVE TO VOTE AGAIN? OKAY. SO ALLOW ME TO I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED. I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? CAN I JUST SAY ONE THING? SORRY ABOUT THAT, COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

YES, MA'AM. SORRY. AND I DO APPRECIATE THOSE THAT THAT CAME UP AND SPOKE REGARDING HEARING PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM TWO.

I AGREE. I THINK THAT WE WE SHOULD I MEAN, I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR THAT THAT EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO SPEAK HAS TO DO THAT DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND NOT ACTUALLY ON THAT AGENDA ITEM. SO JUST KNOW THAT I THINK, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT NOW.

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WHEN ADDRESSING THE BOARD, PLEASE COME TO ONE OF THE THREE PODIUMS AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. EACH PERSON WILL BE PROVIDED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND WE ASK THAT YOU SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE. SPEAKERS WILL COMPLY WITH THE BOARD'S RULES OF CIVILITY AND DECORUM.

SPEAKERS MAY NOT DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD, AND MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WILL REFRAIN FROM ANY DISRUPTIVE DEMONSTRATION.

LET'S SEE. FINALLY, ANY SPEAKER THAT WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT MATERIALS, PLEASE UTILIZE THE CENTER PODIUM.

PAPER MATERIALS CAN BE PLACED ON THE X FOR OUR OVERHEAD CAMERA TO DISPLAY, AND A LAPTOP WILL BE SET UP FOR ANY USB PRESENTATIONS.

AFTER PRESENTING, PLEASE PROVIDE THE MATERIALS TO THE STAFF OF THE CLERK OF THE COURT TO BE ENTERED INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

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SHERRY BADGER, 27, 72 SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET A PETITION STARTED TO RECALL OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. YOU PEOPLE IN TV LAND. LISTEN CLOSE.

SAINT JOHNS COUNTY NEEDS TO FORM A CHARTER WHERE WE CAN GET RID OF COMMISSIONERS GOING RENEGADE AND VOTING FOR WHATEVER THEY WANT. SAINT JOHNS COUNTY NEEDS TO DO THIS AND WE NEED HELP.

THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM. GOOD MORNING. YEAH. SOMETHING TO SHOW.

THEY'LL TURN IT ON FOR YOU. OKAY. HI, I'M KIM HARRISON.

I LIVE IN ELKTON, FLORIDA. AND BILLY, STEP ASIDE, BECAUSE I WILL BE BACK EVERY MEETING.

WHEN I ASKED EARLIER ABOUT HAVING ALLIES AND FINDING VIOLATIONS.

I DIDN'T HAVE TO GO FAR. THAT'S OUR FRONT DOOR.

AND IT'S TODAY. DID ANYONE SEE WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE? ANYBODY? IF YOU'RE YOU CANNOT GET TO THAT PUSH BUTTON.

SO I'VE ASKED THREE TIMES. I'VE COME HERE. SO THAT'S ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF TO GET THE TRASH CAN MOVED.

SO I'M NOT SURE. DO WE HAVE A TRASH CAN MOVING DEPARTMENT? DO WE FILL OUT A PURCHASE ORDER OR REQUISITION? IS IT A VOLUNTEER POSITION? I'M NOT SURE HOW WE GET A TRASH CAN MOVED AND IT TAKES SIX WEEKS TO MOVE IT.

IT JUST GOT MOVED ABOUT A HALF AN HOUR AGO, AND THE ONLY REASON IT DID IS I WAS OUT TAKING PICTURES OF IT. SO IT'S A VOLUNTEER POSITION.

I'M UP FOR IT. I CAN MOVE THE TRASH CAN. IF WE NEED TO APPLY FOR IT, LET ME KNOW.

I'LL GO ON THE WEBSITE AND APPLY BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T TAKE SIX WEEKS TO MOVE A TRASH CAN RIGHT OUTSIDE OUR DOOR.

SO THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING, THAT WE ALL NEED TO BE ALLIES. WE ALL NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. IT'S AMAZING HOW MANY PEOPLE I SHOWED THAT PICTURE TO AND NOBODY SAW WHAT WAS WRONG. LET'S OPEN OUR EYES AND OUR HEARTS AND START DOING THE RIGHT THING.

DON'T MAKE ME COME. MOVE THE TRASH CAN, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. THANKS. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

HAPPY CONSTITUTION WEEK. KAYLEE MASTERS. SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF ME NOW. IS IT? PULL IT DOWN. SORRY. OKAY. IN THE LAW, PRIVACY IS THE RIGHT OF AN INDIVIDUAL TO KEEP PERSONAL MATTERS HIDDEN AND TO CONTROL HOW THEIR PERSONAL DATA IS COLLECTED, USED, OR SHARED. LEGAL EXPERTS OFTEN DESCRIBE IT AS SIMPLY THE RIGHT TO BE, LET ALONE.

LET'S LOOK AT A FEW OF FLORIDA'S LAWS AND RIGHTS THAT ARE BEING BROKEN AND OR VIOLATED BY FLOCK ACTS ON, ETC. AND THOSE SIGNING THE CONTRACTS AND PAYING FOR THEM.

FLORIDA'S DATA PRIVACY LAW FDBR7, 2024. THIS COVERS CONSUMER RIGHTS.

FLORIDA RESIDENTS HAVE CLEAR CONTROL OVER THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION.

CONSUMERS CAN ASK COMPANIES TO ACCESS OR GET A COPY OF THEIR PERSONAL DATA.

ANYBODY KNOW WHERE WE MIGHT DO THAT? CORRECT AND ACCURATE INFORMATION AGAIN, WHERE DELETE THEIR PERSONAL DATA.

GETTING REDUNDANT, I KNOW, BUT WHERE OPT OUT OF TARGETED ADVERTISING, DATA SALES AND PROFILING.

SAME QUESTION. OPT OUT OF THE COLLECTION OF PRECISE GEOLOCATION VOICE RECOGNITION OR FACIAL RECOGNITION DATA.

AGAIN, STILL NO IDEAS. ALSO EVEN MORE IMPORTANT, FDBR HAS SPECIFIC PROTECTIONS FOR MINORS SENSITIVE DATA.

ALL DATA BELONGING TO MINORS UNDER 18 IS TREATED AS SENSITIVE DATA BY DEFAULT.

AND THE BIGGEST PARENTAL CONSENT. COMPANIES MUST HAVE THE PERMISSION FROM A PARENT OR GUARDIAN BEFORE COLLECTING DATA FROM A CHILD.

PER FDP, LAW DEFINES A CHILD AS ANYONE UNDER 18 YEARS OLD, STRICTER THAN THE FEDERAL AGE LIMIT OF 13.

TO BE CLEAR, MOTOROLA, AXON, ETC. HAVE NOT RECEIVED MY PERMISSION OR CONSENT TO TRACK MY 16 YEAR OLD COLLECT, SHARE OR STORE HER DATA, PROFILE HER VEHICLE.

YET THEY ARE STRAIGHT FROM OUR DRIVEWAY. ACTUALLY, THIS IS A VIOLATION OF FLORIDA STATE LAW, AND I CALL ON THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO ENFORCE THIS VIOLATION.

ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2026, FLORIDA'S OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST NETFLIX FOR THE SAME THING, ALLEGING THE STREAMING PLATFORM TRACKED CHILDREN'S VIEWING BEHAVIOR ON KIDS PROFILES AND SHARED THAT DATA WITHOUT REQUIRED CONSENT.

IT'S TIME TO HOLD BIG TECH TO THE SAME STANDARDS AS CITIZENS FOLLOW THE LAW.

A FEW OTHER ITEMS FROM THE FLORIDA STATE CONSTITUTION YOU SHOULD KEEP IN MIND.

POLITICAL POWER. ALL POLITICAL POWER IS INHERENT IN THE PEOPLE.

THE ANNUNCIATION HEREIN OF RIGHTS SHALL NOT BE CONSTRUED, DENIED OR IMPAIRED.

OTHERS RETAINED BY THE PEOPLE. THE RIGHT TO PRIVACY.

SECTION 23. EVERY NATURAL PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO BE, LET ALONE FREE FROM GOVERNMENTAL INTRUSION INTO THE PERSON'S PRIVATE LIFE.

AND SECTION NINE DUE PROCESS. NO PERSON SHALL BE DEPRIVED OF LIFE, LIBERTY OR PROPERTY WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF LAW.

AKA WARRANTLESS SEARCHES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

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AND I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE BECAUSE WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH THE SITUATION OF THE THE STREET THERE.

AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE VILLA THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, AND WE'RE NOW DRIVING OVER A. THE MEDIAN STRIP AND IT'S NOT SAFE. THE U-TURN THAT THEY GAVE US IS VERY UNSAFE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT'S COMING AT YOU.

AND SO I ALSO WANTED TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT JUST RIGHT DOWN FROM, FROM SEVILLA IS THE CROSSOVER FOR THE GOLF COURSE FOR THE GOLF CLUB THAT IS PRIVATELY OWNED.

AND THEY'VE GOT A NICE CROSSOVER THERE. THEY'VE GOT NICE GRAVEL DOWN THERE AND, AND SIGNS UP FOR THE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT WE'VE GOT MUD. WHEN IT RAINS, IT TURNS INTO MUD.

AND ALSO FPL HAS GOT SOME SIMILAR SITUATION GOING ON.

THEY'VE GOT BIG TRUCKS AND TRAILERS AND THEY'RE DRIVING OVER THE MEDIAN STRIP ALSO, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MAKE THE U-TURNS THAT IT WAS PLACED IN THERE.

SO THIS WAS AND THIS WAS ALSO DONE WITHOUT ANY NOTIFICATION TO ANYBODY ON THE STREET.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE GIVEN LIKE 30 OR 60 DAYS NOTICE.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S GOING ON LIKE THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE PEOPLE THAT IT ON THAT STREET WE WERE GIVEN NO NOTICE, NO NOTHING. IT WAS JUST, JUST HAPPENED.

IT JUST STOPPED, WAS WAS DONE. SO WE FEEL LIKE THE COUNTY GAVE US THIS MESS.

THEY SHOULD COME IN AND TRY TO CLEAN IT UP. SO I HOPE THAT WE COULD GET SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION ON THIS, AND I THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

CHAIR. VICE CHAIR. COMMISSIONERS CARLOS AVILA, CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I AM COMING TO YOU THIS MORNING WITH SOME REMARKS IN REFERENCE TO FRIDAY'S CEREMONY. BUT I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T OPEN MY COMMENTS WITH COMMENDING THE WORK OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FIRE RESCUE AND THE HUNDREDS OF FOLKS THAT VOLUNTEERED IN THE SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME IN THE SEARCH FOR BENJAMIN OVER THE WEEKEND.

SO THOSE FOLKS DESERVE A LOT OF CREDIT FOR QUICKLY ORGANIZING AND GETTING A GREAT RESOLUTION TO THAT CASE.

BUT FRIDAY MORNING, THE CITY HELD ITS ANNUAL CEREMONY OF REMEMBRANCE FOR THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE TERROR ATTACKS ON SEPTEMBER 11TH.

AND IT, IT TAKES A LOT TO PUT THAT CEREMONY TOGETHER.

AND I CAME HERE PUBLICLY TO JUST COMMEND THE WORK OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PARTNERS AND HELPING PLAY A ROLE IN THAT CEREMONY. I TOOK THE REST OF FRIDAY TO SPEND WITH SURVIVORS RETIRED FIREFIGHTERS FROM NEW YORK POLICE OFFICERS, FAMILIES, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE AT TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT HAVE RELOCATED HERE TO OUR AREA.

BECAUSE THEY LOVE IT. IT'S STILL A DESIRABLE PLACE FOR THEM TO BE.

AND THE CEREMONY PROVIDES A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO GATHER AND TO GET TOGETHER.

BUT NONE OF THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE COORDINATED EFFORTS FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THE LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND FIRE RESCUE.

AND I DID WANT TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE CHIEF MCGEE FOR HIS UNWAVERING SUPPORT TO HELPING PUT THAT CEREMONY TOGETHER.

AND A SPECIAL THANKS TO CHRIS NAF, TIM YOUNG, CHIEF.

JEREMY ROBSHAW CHAPLAIN TAYLOR AND THE ENTIRE PIPES, DRUMS, AND HONOR CORPS.

WE REALLY COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT THEM.

SO IN A WORLD WHERE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE NOT GETTING A WHOLE LOT OF GOOD THINGS HAPPENING OR COMING OUT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE WAS A VERY CLEAR SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND GATHERING FRIDAY MORNING, AND IT REALLY MEANT A LOT TO THOSE FOLKS. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYBODY AT THE CEREMONY NEXT YEAR.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. BRIAN SEYMOUR, I'M AT 192 MARTINIQUE CIRCLE UP IN PONTE VEDRA.

LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I SPOKE ABOUT THE COST OF THE FLOCK CAMERAS AND ALL THIS MASS SURVEILLANCE THAT WE'RE SEEING.

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I WANT TO KNOW PRECISELY HOW MANY CRIMES HAVE BEEN SOLVED THAT OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE GONE UNSOLVED IN THE ABSENCE OF THE TECHNOLOGY.

WITH THIS KIND OF TECHNOLOGY, YOU OFTEN HEAR ABOUT CRIME REDUCTION AND CRIME PREVENTION.

CAMERAS ARE INANIMATE OBJECTS. THEY ARE PHYSICALLY INCAPABLE OF PREVENTING CRIME.

IF YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY PREVENT, EFFECTIVELY PREVENT AND REDUCE CRIME, THEN YOU NEED TO REMOVE THE CONDITIONS THAT CULTIVATE THE PERCEIVED NEED OR DESIRE TO COMMIT THOSE CRIMES. MASS SURVEILLANCE CANNOT PROVIDE CREATIVE AND CONSTRUCTIVE OUTLETS FOR THOSE SUFFERING PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL TRAUMA.

IT CANNOT PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES TO HELP THOSE SUFFERING WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE OR SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC AND SEXUAL VIOLENCE.

IT CANNOT HELP PEOPLE WORK THROUGH THEIR ANGER.

MASS SURVEILLANCE DOES NOT EDUCATE. IT CANNOT TEACH A MAN TO FISH.

MASS SURVEILLANCE DOES NOT CARE FOR THE SICK.

IT DOES NOT EXPRESS KINDNESS TOWARDS STRANGERS.

IT DOES NOT HELP ME LOVE MY NEIGHBOR. MASS SURVEILLANCE DOES NOT CLOTHE ME AND FEED ME WHEN I AM NAKED AND HUNGRY.

IT DOES NOT GIVE ME WATER WHEN I AM THIRSTY. STOP INVESTING IN THE SNAKE OIL SOLD TO YOU BY WANNABE JAMES BOND VILLAIN.

DRUNK ON THE POWER, DRUNK ON THE FEVER. DREAM OF ULTIMATE POWER.

AND PLEASE START INVESTING IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

START INVESTING IN THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SERVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS CARRIE GUSTAFSON AND MY ADDRESS IS ON FILE.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE NORTH PALM VALLEY AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE AS WELL AS THE AFI AND THE OTHER 13.

I GUESS THAT ARE PENDING MAYBE NOW. 12 UNSURE, I COUNTED.

15 YESTERDAY. TWO MORE WERE ADDED TO THE LIST OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT YESTERDAY.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO TRY TO STAY POSITIVE AND ASK YOU TO PLEASE REPRESENT THE CURRENT RESIDENTS OF SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY WHO WANT TO FIGHT THIS LAW, DENY TO DEFEND. IS THE STRATEGY NEEDED. WE ELECTED ALL OF YOU TO SPEAK FOR US.

WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT BERT HARRIS OR SB 180 OR SB 686.

IF YOU VOTE TO CERTIFY, YOU ARE LETTING THE PEOPLE OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY WHO ELECTED YOU DOWN.

WE CANNOT AFFORD TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

THIS IS AN EMERGENCY. WE HAVE 15 APPLICATIONS IN TWO AND A HALF MONTHS.

WHAT A DRAIN. THIS MUST BE ON YOUR COUNTY STAFF, I CANNOT IMAGINE ARE THEY EVEN ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE? WE HAVE WE CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE MORE TAXES TO PAY FOR MORE ROADS AND SCHOOLS AND FIREHOUSES AND POLICE STATIONS AND THE STAFF TO WORK AND SUPPORT THE GROWTH.

OUR POPULATION GREW BY 53% FROM 2015 TO 2025.

FIVE HOUR SUPERINTENDENT FOR THE SCHOOL, STOOD HERE AND SAID THAT THE DISTRICT WAS ABOUT TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A NEW HIGH SCHOOL WITHOUT BORROWING.

BUT THAT WILL CHANGE. THE COUNTY IS IN DEBT AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS IN DEBT.

DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT PAY FOR ITSELF. FOR KIM KENDALL, TOM LEEK, SAM GRECO AND JUDSON SAPP, YOUR YES VOTES TO THIS LAW HAVE HURT THIS COUNTY.

WE NEED YOU HERE NOW, WORKING NIGHT AND DAY, TO RELIEVE THIS RELENTLESS PRESSURE TO PAVE OVER EVERY INCH OF SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY.

THANK YOU TO ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT VOTE TO DENY THIS.

IT WILL BE PRAISED AND IT WILL BE APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. TYRONE BENNETT FROM HARTSVILLE FOOD TRUCK IN SAINT AUGUSTINE.

PLEASE EXCUSE MY DAUGHTER. I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION THAT COMES WITH THE JOB OF A OF A COUNTY COMMISSIONER. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO HOLD COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MENTION TWO HUMAN THINGS THAT DID HAPPEN IN THE LAST YEAR.

ME AS A BUSINESS OWNER WENT THROUGH A TOUGH TIME WITH MY DAUGHTER.

SHE WAS IN THE NICU FOR ABOUT FOUR MONTHS. A COUPLE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS GOT WORD OF, OF HER BEING IN THE HOSPITAL. THEY CONTACTED ME, THEY EMAILED ME, THEY TEXTED ME AND THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT HOW MY DAUGHTER WAS DOING. SO WITH ALL THE NEGATIVE STUFF, I GET IT.

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THEY TEXT, THEY CALLED AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO CLAY MURPHY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO SARAH ARNOLD, AND I'M SURE THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU KNEW YOU WOULD DO THE SAME.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU. BECAUSE SHE ISN'T SHE WASN'T IN NICU FOR FOUR MONTHS.

SHE IS GOING THROUGH A TOUGH TIME. SHE DOES HAVE A LOT OF THERAPIES.

SHE DOES HAVE A LOT OF STUFF. BUT MY FATHER AND MY MOTHER ALWAYS TELL ME, GIVE THOSE FLOWERS WHEN THEY'RE STILL ALIVE. AND LET THEM HEAR IT. I DISAGREE WITH SOME THINGS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS DO AS A BUSINESS OWNER.

IT AFFECTS MY BOTTOM LINE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, CHARACTER MATTERS.

PERSONALITY MATTERS. SHOWING UP MATTERS. SO I CAME DOWN TODAY.

I WASN'T GOING TO SAY ANYTHING. I SAT THERE, I WASN'T GOING TO SAY ANYTHING, BUT I WANTED THE PEOPLE OF SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY TO KNOW IN MY DARKEST HOURS FOR MY FAMILY. THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER CALLED ME, REACHED OUT TO ME AND TEXT ME WHILE MY DAUGHTER WAS IN THE NICU AND WOLFSON CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL FOR FOUR MONTHS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ON BEHALF OF HEART AND SOUL FOOD TRUCK AND WE FEED INCORPORATED.

WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. HAVE A GOOD DAY. HEY.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS BRAD RUSSELL.

I'M A LAWYER FROM JACKSONVILLE, 300 WEST ADAMS STREET.

I'VE BEEN HIRED BY A GROUP OF SAINT OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS TO COMMENT ON A MATTER REGARDING AGENDA ITEM TWO.

I'M HERE RIGHT NOW, JUST IN CASE THERE WON'T BE A FURTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

I UNDERSTAND SECTION 163.3164 FOR THE AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE STATUTE REQUIRES THAT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING AN AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE HAS TO HAVE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL, OR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE APPLICANT'S THEORY IS THAT ANY LAND THAT HAS BEEN SUBDIVIDED UNDER SECTION 380.04 QUALIFIES AS EXISTING INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

IN MY LEGAL OPINION, THAT IS NOT THE ONLY WAY TO READ THESE TWO STATUTES.

IN FACT, I DON'T EVEN THINK IT'S THE BEST WAY TO READ THESE TWO STATUTES.

I DO NOT THINK THAT SECTION 380 .04, WHICH INCLUDES, WITHIN ITS DEFINITION OF DEVELOPMENT.

THE DIVIDING OF LAND INTO THREE OR MORE PARCELS.

I DO NOT THINK THAT REQUIRES THAT EXISTING INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS MET AS A TEST.

JUST BECAUSE A PARCEL OF LAND HAS BEEN DIVIDED INTO THREE OR MORE SMALLER PARCELS.

WHY NOT? WELL, 380 .04 SUBSECTION FOUR EXPLICITLY SAYS THAT WHEN APPROPRIATE TO THE CONTEXT, DEVELOPMENT REFERS TO THE ACT OF DEVELOPING OR TO THE RESULT OF DEVELOPMENT.

WHEN 380 .04 REFERS TO SUBDIVIDING, THAT MUST REFER TO THE ACT OF DEVELOPMENT, NOT TO THE RESULT OF DEVELOPMENT.

WHY NOT? WELL, I SUPPOSE EVERY PARCEL IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA WOULD CONSTITUTE WOULD CONSTITUTE A DEVELOPED PARCEL, BECAUSE EVERY PARCEL IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA WAS ONCE PART OF A LARGER PARCEL.

IF WE IMAGINE A LARGE PARCEL OF LAND, A SINGLE PARCEL OF LAND THAT OCCUPIES 75% OF THE BOUNDARY OF THE AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE, IT'S DIVIDED INTO THREE SEPARATE PARCELS. DOES THAT MEAN THAT ENTIRE PARCEL, THAT ENTIRE 75%, COUNTS AS EXISTING INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT? NO IT DOESN'T. IT DOESN'T. I'VE SHARED MY VIEWS IN A LETTER, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF, IF ANY OF YOUR HONORS HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING.

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AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF EPIC HERE TODAY TO KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO.

I KNOW YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A FOOD RESCUE ORGANIZATION FOUNDED IN 2018 WHEN WE LEARNED THAT 30 TO 40% OF ALL THE FOOD THAT'S PRODUCED IN THE U.S.

ENDS UP IN A LANDFILL. ALL WHILE 1 IN 6 PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOOD TO EAT.

SO WE INTERCEPT FOOD AT RETAIL STORES, WHOLESALE STORES, FARMS, AT MANUFACTURERS, AND WITH TRUCKING COMPANIES.

AND THEN WE PROVIDE THAT FOOD TO PEOPLE IN NEED FOR FREE.

WE CURRENTLY DO 22 DISTRIBUTIONS EVERY WEEK, SERVING 2200 FAMILIES EVERY WEEK.

AND LAST YEAR ALONE, WE RESCUED 11.4 MILLION POUNDS OF FOOD.

AND WE KEPT THAT OUT OF LOCAL LANDFILLS, ALL WHILE PROVIDING THAT REALLY NUTRITIOUS, WONDERFUL FOOD TO PEOPLE IN NEED.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE OF FOOD RESCUE IN THE U.S., AND YOU LOOK AT FEEDING AMERICA AND ALL OF THE ORGANIZATIONS WORKING TOGETHER TO RESCUE FOOD, WE'RE RESCUING ABOUT 5 BILLION POUNDS OF FOOD A YEAR.

BUT THE ACTUAL FOOD WASTE THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE U.S.

EVERY YEAR IS CLOSER TO 160 BILLION POUNDS OF FOOD.

SO WHEN YOU THINK, HOW MUCH FARTHER DO WE HAVE TO GO TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM? WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. SO WE HAVE SPENT THE LAST SEVEN YEARS AS A 100% VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION BUILDING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR COLD STORAGE INFRASTRUCTURE. WE CAN CURRENTLY STORE 300 PALLETS OF COLD STORAGE.

WE HAVE FIVE REFRIGERATED BOX TRUCKS, AND WE RESCUE FOOD FROM ALL OVER THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

AND WE WORK WITH NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL.

SO WE HAVE WE'RE CURRENTLY BUILDING, AS YOU ALL KNOW, A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE HERE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY TO EXPAND OUR FOOD RESCUE OPERATIONS SO THAT WE CAN DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO RESCUE MORE FOOD AND AND MEET THE CURRENT NEEDS, WHICH ARE EXTREMELY HIGH RIGHT NOW. WITH THE ENERGY SHOCK, THE GAS PRICES ARE REALLY HURTING ALL THE FAMILIES HERE IN, IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP UP.

SO THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. YOU ALL KNOW ME NOW.

DEBORAH CAMPBELL I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS OR ALPR THAT WE USE HERE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SAY WE'VE BEEN USING THAT TECHNOLOGY FOR 20 OR 30 YEARS.

BUT FACTUALLY THAT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. THERE THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

COMPARING AN OLD LICENSE PLATE READER TO A MODERN FLOCK CAMERA IS LIKE COMPARING A 1990S BRICK PHONE TO A BRAND NEW IPHONE.

THEY BOTH MAKE CALLS, BUT THE TECHNOLOGY INSIDE THEM IS WORLDS APART.

30 YEARS AGO, THESE CAMERAS WERE VERY BASIC. THEY COULD ONLY DO ONE THING READ THE LETTERS AND NUMBERS ON A LICENSE PLATE.

THEY WERE COMPARED. THEY COMPARED THAT NUMBER TO A SMALL LIST OF STOLEN CARS STORED ON A LOCAL COMPUTER.

IF A PLATE WAS DIRTY OR IF IT WAS DARK OUTSIDE, THE CAMERA USUALLY FAILED.

TODAY, THESE CAMERAS DON'T JUST READ LETTERS.

THEY USE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND COMPUTER VISION TO FIND WHAT IS CALLED A VEHICLE FINGERPRINT.

EVEN IF A CRIMINAL TAKES A LICENSE PLATE OFF A CAR, TODAY'S CAMERAS CAN STILL IDENTIFY THE VEHICLE.

THEY CAN SEARCH FOR THE CAR'S EXACT MAKE MODEL COLOR, ROOF RACKS, BUMPER STICKERS, AND EVEN DENTS OR SCRATCHES.

ANOTHER BIG DIFFERENCE IS HOW THEY SHARE INFORMATION.

30 YEARS AGO, THE DATA STAYED INSIDE ONE POLICE CAR OR ONE OFFICE.

TODAY, THESE CAMERAS. EXCUSE ME, ARE CONNECTED TO THE CLOUD.

A CAMERA IN OUR COUNTY CAN INSTANTLY SHARE DATA WITH CAMERAS ACROSS THE WHOLE COUNTRY.

OKAY, THIS MEANS THE SYSTEM CAN TRACK A CAR'S HISTORY AND BUILD A MAP OF EVERYWHERE THAT CAR HAS BEEN OVER TIME.

THE MASSIVE TRACKING POWER IS EXACTLY WHY WE ARE SEEING SUCH A HUGE PUBLIC BACKLASH RIGHT NOW.

TO JUST CALL THEM SIMPLE LICENSE PLATE READERS OR CAMERAS OR TO SAY THAT THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE SUDDENLY UPSET ABOUT ALL OF THIS SHOWS A COMPLETE MISUNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY ACTUALLY WORKS.

PEOPLE ARE UPSET BECAUSE THESE NEW SYSTEMS ACT LIKE PERMANENT TRACKING DEVICES.

AS OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE AN IMPORTANT JOB.

YOU HAVE TO BALANCE PUBLIC SAFETY WITH THE PRIVACY OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.

I ASK YOU TO DO TO LOOK AT THESE CAMERAS FOR WHAT THEY ARE TODAY, NOT 30 YEARS AGO.

THEY ARE NO LONGER JUST SIMPLE TOOLS LOOKING FOR STOLEN CARS.

THEY ARE POWERFUL TRACKING NETWORKS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. HI. MY NAME IS TRICIA MOORE AND I'M AT 174 GALLEON DRIVE, AND MY STORY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT HERE. YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE STRONG ROOTS HERE AND HAVE BEEN HERE FOREVER, AND THEY HAVE SUCH GREAT OPINIONS. MY STORY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE I JUST MOVED HERE THIS YEAR IN 2026.

I HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF MOST OF MY FAMILY PASSING AWAY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND THAT CHANGES YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON LIFE.

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AND I PICKED UP MY WHOLE FAMILY AND MOVED THEM HERE.

I HAVE A DAUGHTER IN MIDDLE SCHOOL. IF YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE MOVING KIDS THAT AGE. IT WAS BIG, BUT I FOUND THIS PLACE TO BE SO AMAZING AND SO BEAUTIFUL, AND THE PEOPLE ARE SO GREAT AND I'M WATCHING SO MUCH BUILDING AND THINGS CHANGE AND I'M REVERTING BACK TO YOUR PLANS AND I'M LIKE, OKAY, THEY HAVE A VISION. TRUST THE VISION. IT'S GONNA BE GREAT HERE.

AND I LOVE IT SO MUCH. AND I JUST KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY HAVE VOTED YOU GUYS IN TO TRUST YOU.

AND WITH GREAT POWER COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE VOTING IN A WAY THAT KEEPS SAINT JOHN'S AS BEAUTIFUL AS I FOUND IT IN THIS PLACE, IT CAN BE. AND WHEN YOU VOTE CERTAIN THINGS IN, ONCE IT'S DONE, IT CAN'T BE UNDONE.

AND I WANT TO KEEP SAINT JOHN'S THE BEAUTIFUL PLACE THAT I FOUND COUNTRYWIDE TO BE SO AMAZING AND BEAUTIFUL AND FOR THE PEOPLE.

SO I JUST URGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THAT, THAT VISION AND THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED YOU IN.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JENNIFER.

I LIVE IN THE COLONY IN 20 MILE, AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THE PONTE VEDRA ENCLAVE.

SO EXCUSE ME, I'M JUST HERE TO ASK YOU ALL TO PLEASE DENY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS LAND.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

AND LIKE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

ARE THERE? ALL RIGHT. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

IS EVERYONE READY FOR AMENDMENT THREE? SHOW OF HANDS.

67. CAN YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME? I KNOW EVERYBODY KNOWS YOU IN.

DUVAL COUNTY, FLORIDA. AND ANYWAY WHO'S READY FOR AMENDMENT THREE? JUST A SHOW OF HANDS. NOW, WHO'S READY TO MAKE A MOVIE BESIDES BOAT RAMP? BILLY. 2026 0396. NOW, THAT IS THE DUVAL COUNTY JACKSONVILLE MOVIE TRUST FUND.

AND THE LOCAL LION WILL NOW BE THE NATIONAL LION.

AND WHEN I LEAVE HERE, HERE'S A DONATION TO THE TRUST FUND FOR MOVIES.

IT'S REAL. NOW, DUVAL COUNTY ALSO CREATED A TRUST FUND FOR PARKS 2020 604 UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF KEN AMARO, FORMER CHAIR OF THE JACKSONVILLE WATERWAYS COMMISSION AND THE CREATOR OF OUR, YOU KNOW, FWC HATS.

I MEAN, THIS IS A SPIN OFF. KEN AMERO GOT MY CIA, IT'S A CULINARY INSTITUTE OF AMERICA.

IT'S ALSO A SPIN FOR CLASSROOMS IN AMERICA. YOU KNOW, CHARTER SCHOOLS, PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S STATEWIDE. AND KEN AMERO IS ALSO THE SECOND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL COUNCIL.

NOW THAT IS SEVEN COUNTIES. THAT IS HUGE. COUNCIL COUNCILMAN AMERO IS NOW SERVING AS THE DUVAL COUNTY LIAISON FOR THE JEA REMEMBER THE RIVER ACCORD.

NOW SAINT JOHNS COUNTY. NOW, I SAW ON THE NEWS SOME NUMBERS BY JAKE STOFAN WITH CBS 47 ACTION NEWS AND THE REVENUE HIT FOR SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

IF AMENDMENT THREE PASSES. NOW, TO REMIND EVERYONE IN DUVAL COUNTY, THERE ARE THREE POTENTIAL FINE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT POTENTIAL LAND ACQUISITION PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT, WATERWAYS COMMISSION, AND BOTH OUR LEGISLATIVE AND EXECUTIVE BRANCH THAT WOULD PROVIDE A PUBLIC BENEFIT IMMEDIATELY.

THE THREE DISTRICTS ARE IN NUMBER ONE. AMERO FOUR.

CARICO SIX. BOYLAND NOW FIND IS 12 COUNTIES. SAINT JOHNS COUNTY PARTNERS WITH FIND.

NOW THIS IS LAST NIGHT. YOU KNOW IN DUVAL COUNTY WE HAVE SIX C PACS.

NOW THIS IS THE KIDS HOPE ALLIANCE. YOU HAVE A $50 MILLION BUDGET.

BUT LAST NIGHT IMPACTS OF AMENDMENT THREE TO THE KHA HERE IS THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL COUNCIL.

AND RIGHT HERE POTENTIAL IMPACTS ON PROPERTY TAX REFORM.

I'M ONLY DOWN TO 20 SOME SECONDS. BUT ON THE THING IS CLAY COUNTY.

SO IN OTHER WORDS WE'RE TAKING THIS ON THE ROAD.

AND RIGHT NOW HERE IS FIND YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S NOT FAKE.

THIS IS IT'S THE EAST COAST OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

SO ANYWAY, AND HERE'S THE. NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL COUNCIL.

AMOUNT OF TIME AND ALL THE BEST. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL FOR A FEW MINUTES.

SO I'M IN MARSH LANDING. MY NAME IS JENNY SMITH.

24778 DEER TRACE DRIVE. AND REGARDING THIS WHOLE ENCLAVE, MY HUSBAND AND I WERE TALKING.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS A LOT RECENTLY.

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THE EFFECTS OF THE TIDE ON US INSTANTLY. IT WAS NOT OVER A MATTER OF EVEN MONTHS.

SO MY QUESTION IS, WITH ALL OF THIS, YOU KNOW, LAND BEING WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR.

MY UNDERSTANDING AS FEMA NOW REQUIRES. LIKE FOR SAINT AUGUSTINE, I THINK IT'S 11FT OF DIRT TO TO BUILD.

AND IN MARSH LANDING, WE'RE SEEING TEN FEET. WE'RE BEING REQUIRED TEN FEET.

SO WE'RE SEEING WE CALL THESE HOUSES MOUNT MARSH LANDING BECAUSE THEY'RE, I MEAN, THIS LOOKS KIND OF RIDICULOUS, BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A DUTY TO PROTECT THEIR HOME.

SO WHAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT IMPACT THIS WOULD HAVE ON HOW MUCH DIRT IS THAT? HAS ANYBODY DONE THE MATH ON THAT? THAT'S A LOT OF DIRT.

I WONDER IF IT WOULD AFFECT MANY COUNTIES. WOULD IT AFFECT THE ENTIRE STATE.

SO WHAT WHAT KIND OF BACKGROUND DO THEY HAVE ON ALL OF THIS? I THINK IT'S JUST REALLY THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

AND THIS IS JUST SEEMS TO BE A VERY BACKWARDS PROCESS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF MORE SCIENCE AND ENVIRONMENTAL WORK BEING DONE ON THIS.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE ANYWHERE NEAR A RUBBER STAMP OF APPROVAL BASED ON THE RAMIFICATIONS THAT WE MIGHT SEE WITH THIS.

I THINK IT WILL TRULY BE CATASTROPHIC. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. I AGREE, EDITOR SLAVIN. GOOD MORNING.

EDITOR SLAVIN, BOX 304 EDITOR. SLAVIN.COM. CANDIDATE FOR SEAT TWO.

ANASTASIA MOSQUITO CONTROL, DISTRICT OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

CALLING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE BOOK, HERE'S AN IMAGE.

TRUST US, WE'RE EXPERTS BY SHELDON RAMPTON. HE'S STILL ALIVE, AND SO AM I.

HE'S ONE OF MY FACEBOOK FRIENDS, AND HE WROTE A MAGNIFICENT BOOK ABOUT THE ABUSE OF EXPERT WITNESSES AND EXPERT TESTIMONY, WHICH WE SAW HERE WITH RESPECT TO ROGERS TOWER'S PROPOSAL FOR THE DAVIS FAMILY.

WHY WAS THERE NO CROSS EXAMINATION? WHY DID HARDLY ANY COMMISSIONER SAY ANYTHING WHEN ELLEN AVERY SMITH GETS UP THERE AND BLUSTERS.

READS, YOU KNOW, IN THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT YOU READ THEY THEY POUND THE TABLE AND THEY SAY OBJECTION! READING, READING, READING. THERE WERE NO LIVE EXPERTS UNTIL WE HAVE LIVE EXPERTS ON ITEM TWO.

PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T PASS IT. YOU HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH, THE 27TH.

IS THAT CORRECT? YOU HAVE UNTIL THE 27TH. LET'S NOT DO ANYTHING TODAY.

LET'S GET LIVE TESTIMONY BY ACTUAL LIVING, BREATHING EXPERTS WHO YOU CAN TALK TO IN AN ITERATIVE PROCESS.

THAT'S WHAT EXPERT TESTIMONY IS SUPPOSED TO BE.

IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SOME DUMB OLD AFFIDAVIT WRITTEN BY AN ATTORNEY AT ROGERS TOWERS.

NOW, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE COUNTY DISCLOSE, AND I ASKED LAST NIGHT EVERY SINGLE NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT, NOT JUST SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, BUT THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, WHICH WAS THE FIRST TO RESPOND. EVERY SINGLE NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT WITH EVERY SINGLE LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITY, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN'T KNOW BECAUSE YOU SIGNED A NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT.

IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? AND THAT APPLIES TO THE FLOCK CAMERAS.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT'S NOT BEING SHARED.

AND I'D LIKE TO CALL AS MY NEXT WITNESS, SHERIFF HARDWICKE, WHO APPARENTLY LOVES FLOCK CAMERAS.

AND I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT ON YOUR PROCESS OF CONTRACTING JULY THE 20TH OF 2021, THE NO BID CONTRACT, AND NOW IT TURNS OUT IT'S OWNED BY A HEDGE FUND BY PRIVATE EQUITY.

IT'S A REALLY GOOD BOOK. PLUNDER PRIVATE EQUITIES PLAN TO PILLAGE AMERICA BY BRENDAN BRENDAN BALLOU.

CHAPTER FOUR IS ABOUT NURSING HOMES. THIS COUNTY COMMISSION AFTER ONE HOUR AND SIX MINUTES OF DISCUSSION ALLOWED PRIVATE EQUITY TO TAKE OVER A LONG TIME BELOVED NONPROFIT HERE. BAYVIEW AND TAKE IT OVER FOR THE BENEFIT OF SIMKA AND NAPHTALI OR.

SIMKA AND NAPHTALI HERE I LIKE TO CALL THEM AS MY NEXT WITNESS.

OBVIOUSLY, ROGERS TOWERS HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT CONTRACT, BUT THEIR CHIEF LOBBYIST ACTUALLY WROTE ME LAST MONTH AND SAID I HAD NO RIGHT TO KNOW WHO THEIR CLIENTS WERE. SO I ASKED BAYVIEW, WHO'S YOUR LAWYER? THEY WON'T SAY IT, BUT MISS SMITH WAS BEFORE THIS BOARD, JULY 20TH OF 2021.

SO I SUSPECT MAYBE SHE'S GOTTEN WELL, NOT RESIDUALS, BUT WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW AND OUR RIGHT TO KNOW MUST BE RESPECTED AND NOT NEGLECTED.

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THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. NEXT.

COME ON UP. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ANDREA ARMSTRONG.

I LOVE TALKING, BUT I HATE SPEAKING. I'M AT 15 SOUTH ROSCOE IN PONTE VEDRA, AND I'M HERE TO ASK THAT YOU DENY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 4462 ACRES ACROSS THE WATERWAY.

I KNOW I'M SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS YOU AS A GROUP, BUT I KNOW WHERE SOME OF YOU STAND AND WHERE SOME OF YOU DON'T.

AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE STILL FIGHTING FOR US.

I'M NOT GOING TO CALL ANY NAMES, BUT I'M HERE TO ASK ONE OF YOU TO PLEASE DENY THE DEVELOPMENT.

I KNOW YOU HAVE NOT DENIED NOR APPROVED IT, SO YOU'VE GOT TO BE SUCH A GREAT, SMART MAN TO KNOW THAT IT'S NOT RIGHT AND THAT OUR COMMUNITY CANNOT HANDLE ANY MORE DEVELOPMENT. THE ROADS, THE WATERWAYS, THE SCHOOLS AND JUST THE WILDLIFE, THE NATURE, THE EAGLE'S NEST.

AND YEAH, WE JUST CAN'T HANDLE ANY MORE OF IT.

I'M NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, BUT ENOUGH'S ENOUGH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ELISE BRODERICK. I LIVE OFF WEST KING IN DOWNTOWN SAINT AUGUSTINE.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS IS A VERY GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

THIS IS A PIVOTAL MOMENT FOR OUR COUNTY. WE REALLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD THE REST OF FLORIDA WHEN IT COMES TO SHOWING UP AND PROTECTING OUR MOST VALUABLE RESOURCES. I'M REALLY URGING CLAY MURPHY TO PLEASE JOIN JOSEPH AND TAYLOR ON THEIR STANCE IN PROTECTING OUR WILDLIFE, PROTECTING OUR COUNTY, PROTECTING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, AND WHAT MAKES THIS PLACE SO SPECIAL FOR EVERYONE.

THIS TRACT OF LAND ALONG THE ICW. ONCE IT'S GONE, IT'S GONE.

THERE'S NO GETTING IT BACK. THERE'S SO FEW STRETCHES OF LAND THAT ARE ON THE ICW THAT ARE UNTOUCHED BY FERTILIZER, PESTICIDES, STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEMS. THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE MANATEES.

IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE FISHING. IT'S GOING TO AFFECT EVERYTHING. THESE WATER RECHARGE PLACES, IT'S FEW AND FAR BETWEEN. SAINT JOHNS COUNTY HAS BEEN THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTY. I'M BORN AND RAISED FROM HERE. I'VE SEEN IT BECOME ALMOST UNRECOGNIZABLE IN SOME PLACES FROM 2020.

AND THIS THIS OPPORTUNITY, WE CAN REALLY SHOW THE COUNTIES AROUND US THAT WE MIGHT IT MIGHT NOT BE THE EASY THING TO DO, BUT IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE ENCLAVES COMING.

THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE PETITIONS. THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE PEOPLE WANTING TO GET THEIR LAND DEVELOPED.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO 4000 TRACKS OF IRREPLACEABLE, SENSITIVE, SENSITIVE, BEAUTIFUL WILDLIFE, I SAIL ACROSS THAT AREA ALL THE TIME. IT'S RARE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A STRETCH LIKE THAT UNTIL YOU GET TO GUANA AND UNTIL YOU GET TO MATANZAS.

THOSE ARE BOTH STATE PARKS. THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW REMAINING TRACKS WE HAVE OF LAND THAT IS UNTOUCHED THAT WE REALLY, REALLY NEED TO KEEP. FOR MY GRANDKIDS, FOR MY CHILDREN.

ONCE IT'S GONE, IT'S GONE. WE ARE FACING A SERIOUS, SERIOUS WATER CRISIS IN FLORIDA.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE UNAWARE OF IT, BUT OUR SPRINGS ARE DRAINING.

EVEN IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, WE'RE SEEING OUR WATER SLOWLY DISAPPEARING.

THESE AREAS ARE GOING TO PROTECT US FOR THE YEARS TO COME.

SO, CLAY, I'M REALLY ASKING YOU. I KNOW IT'S NOT AN EASY THING TO DO.

I KNOW THERE'S REPERCUSSIONS FOR YOUR DECISIONS EITHER WAY YOU CHOOSE, BUT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY SHOW US THAT WHAT YOU CAMPAIGNED ON, WHICH IS SLOWING THE GROWTH, SLOWING OVERDEVELOPMENT.

YOU CAN JOIN JOSEPH AND TAYLOR AND REALLY TAKE A STANCE AND SHOW SAINT JOHNS COUNTY AND THE REST OF FLORIDA THAT YOU ARE ABOUT THAT, AND THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO DO THE HARD THING AND SHOW UP FOR EVERYONE IN FLORIDA AND PROTECT SAINT AUGUSTINE, BECAUSE SAINT AUGUSTINE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD THE REST IN FLORIDA, TO SHOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO PROTECT AND REALLY, REALLY TAKE, TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN AND KEEP IT BEAUTIFUL.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE A SUBURBAN SPRAWL. WE'RE NOT A SUBURBAN STRAW SPRAWL, SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME.

REALLY HOPE YOU GUYS CAN DENY THE PROPOSAL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. I'M TJ WAGNER. I LIVE IN THE FAIRFIELD SUBDIVISION IN PONTE VEDRA BEACH.

AND I'D LIKE TO ECHO MY CONCERNS ALSO ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT TO THE PROPOSAL TO DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY.

WE ARE SO STRETCHED WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, WE CAN'T EVEN MAKE A LEFT TURN HARDLY ANYMORE ON A ONE A, AND IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF THE NOCATEE EXPANSION.

NOBODY REALLY PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MANAGE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE TRAFFIC.

ROSCOE BOULEVARD PALM VALLEY ROAD, A ONE A THERE'S A STRETCH TO THE MAXIMUM NOW WITH TRAFFIC.

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THE OTHER THING IS WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC.

NOCATEE HAS GOT TO HAVE A WAY TO GET TO JTB TO GET DOWNTOWN.

RIGHT NOW, SAN PABLO ROAD, THERE'S A HIGH POWER LINES THAT SUPPLY NOCATEE, AND THERE'S AN ACCESS ROAD OR A UTILITY ROAD THAT FOLLOWS. IT'S A GRAVEL ROAD, DIRT ROAD.

BUT WHY NOT JUST TURN AROUND AND PAVE THAT THING AND GIVE THE PEOPLE IN NOCATEE A DIRECT ACCESS TO JTB IN DOWNTOWN JACKSONVILLE AND RELIEVE SOME OF THE PRESSURE OFF OF US IN PONTE VEDRA BEACH, MAKING RIGHT HAND TURNS ONLY AND THEN TRYING TO GO DOWN AND MAKE A U-TURN. IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS. SEMIS AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.

CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.

YOU'D HAVE TO WIDEN A ONE A AND I THINK THAT'S OUT OF THE QUESTION ALSO.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. I'M LINDA SCHUMACHER.

MY ADDRESS IS OUT FRONT. AND I REALIZE Y'ALL DID NOT CREATE THE MESS OF THE AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE.

WE CAN THANK UNFORTUNATELY SENATOR TOM LEEK AND ALSO REPRESENTATIVE KIM KENDALL FOR THAT.

AND I HAVE CONTACTED THEM AS WELL. AND I HOPE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THIS AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE DO THE SAME.

AND SO OUR STATE LEGISLATIVE ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE BASICALLY NOT BEEN ON OUR SIDE.

SO WE'RE REALLY HOPING FOR THE COMMISSIONERS HERE TO REALLY SUPPORT THE PEOPLE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE WITH THE FAMOUS ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S GETTYSBURG ADDRESS.

A LITTLE SNIPPET FROM THAT. IT SAYS HIS A VISION OF A NATION DEDICATED TO EQUALITY AND DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT, FAMOUSLY EMPHASIZING THE IDEA OF THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. NEXT, COME ON UP AND REMEMBER, WE DO HAVE WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT MICS. SO IF THERE'S MORE THAN JUST, JUST BARELY SPEAKING, PLEASE, PLEASE BE IN ONE OF THE OTHER SPOTS.

THANKS. GOOD MORNING. HEY. GOOD MORNING Y'ALL. BILLY HENNESSEY 5461 FOURTH STREET.

WINDSWEPT ACRES, LITTLE SUBDIVISION THERE. BEEN LIVING THERE 30 YEARS.

WHEN I FIRST BOUGHT MY HOUSE, YOU COULD WALK DOWN TO THE NATURE PRESERVE ON THE WAY TO THAT DOCK THAT THOSE PEOPLE HAVE CONFISCATED OR Y'ALL ANNEXED TO THEM OR WHATEVER, BUT IT'D BE COVERED WITH LIGHTNING BUGS LOOK LIKE VEGAS DOWN THERE JUST LIT UP.

YOU DON'T SEE THEM NO MORE. AND BASICALLY GONE.

I'M KIND OF WONDERING, LIKE, WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM? DEVELOPMENT. BUT FRIDAY I WATCHED THE NINE OVER 11 THING AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE JUST THINK ABOUT AND DO IT ONCE A YEAR. WE THINK ABOUT IT. TO ME. SIX FIVE 2021 I LIVE WITH THAT EVERY DAY. SOME PEOPLE TRY TO BEAT ME TO DEATH AT ONE OF Y'ALL'S BOAT RAMPS.

AND I'M GODDAMN LUCKY TO BE HERE. MY DOCTORS TOLD ME I PRETTY MUCH COULD HAVE BEEN KILLED.

AND IF WE HAD HAD A CAMERA AT THAT BOAT RAMP, WE'D HAVE SURE SOLVED A LOT OF MISERY THAT I WENT THROUGH.

I HAD TO WAIT FOR THE DEPOSITIONS FROM THE THE TRIAL.

THEY CAUGHT THE GUYS. AND I TOOK THE DEPOSITIONS.

THE DOCTORS WANTED TO READ THEM, THE PRIMARY CARE GUY AND THE NEUROLOGIST.

AND WE SAT DOWN AND READ THOSE DEPOSITIONS. AND NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, MAN, THESE PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO KILL ME JUST BECAUSE I ASKED THEM TO PULL UP SO I COULD PUT MY BOAT IN THE WATER.

WHAT'S GOING ON, MAN? WHY? WHY ARE PEOPLE LIKE THAT?

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THAT'S THE THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. AND THEY THINK THEY CAN BUY EVERYBODY OFF.

YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU I'M NOT GOING TO GET BOUGHT OFF.

I GOT A REPUTATION THAT I EARNED. I'M NOT A TRUST FUND BABY.

I'VE WORKED MY FINGERS TO THE BONE TO PAY FOR MY HOUSE.

THAT'S PAID FOR. WE NEED TO GET IT TOGETHER, MAN.

THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE MANKIND, NOT MAN. UNKIND.

Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. NEXT. COME ON UP.

GOOD MORNING. CAN I GET A CHAIR? BECAUSE I GET KIND OF UP HERE.

I'LL SEE YOU NEXT MEETING. COME ON. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ANDREA MIDDLEBROOK, AND I LIVE AT 2561CH ARNOLD ROAD, SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. EACH MORNING I DRIVE DOWN THE TREE LINED COUNTRY ROAD OF COUNTY ROAD 208.

TURN LEFT ON PASETTI ROAD AND DROP MY KIDS OFF AT THEIR SCHOOLS.

I DRIVE RIGHT BY THE 310 ACRES IN THE APPLICATION INSERT.

202608 THE AFI PROPERTY THAT'S OWNED BY THE HUDSON COMPANY.

IT TOUCHES OUR SCHOOL ROUTE IN TWO SEPARATE PLACES.

I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO DENY THIS AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE CERTIFICATION, AS WELL AS THE 4000 ACRE ONE IN PALM VALLEY.

WHILE I LOVE OUR SCHOOLS, THE SCHOOLS ZONED FOR THIS SITE ARE ALL SERIOUSLY OVERCROWDED PICOLATA CROSSING ELEMENTARIES OVERFLOWING WITH ROWS OF PORTABLE CLASSROOMS. PEZZETTI BAY MIDDLE SCHOOL HOLDS THE HIGHEST STUDENT COUNT OF ALL MIDDLE SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY, AND EVEN TOCOI CREEK HIGH. OUR NEW GEM HAS EXCEEDED ITS CAPACITY SO SEVERELY THAT THEY'VE BUILT CRAZY DOUBLE DECKER PORTABLES WITH METAL STAIRCASE AND METAL RAILINGS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THEM. THAT DOES NOT SOUND SAFE IN A FLORIDA THUNDERSTORM, WITH NEARBY DEVELOPMENTS LIKE TRAIL MARK AND IRON BRANCH CONTINUING TO EXPAND IN THIS ZONED AREA.

OUR LOCAL ROAD AND SCHOOL CAPACITIES ARE PUSHED BEYOND THEIR BREAKING POINTS.

THE DEVELOPER CLAIMS THIS PROJECT MATCHES THE AREA, BUT THAT'S FLAT OUT FALSE.

LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING PARCELS. THE MAJORITY OF THE BORDER CONSISTS OF LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, SMALL FARMS, RURAL PROPERTIES WITH TRAILERS HOMES ON LARGER ACREAGE LIKE ONE HOME PER FIVE ACRES, OR MAYBE ONE HOME PER AN ACRE. EVEN THE NEW IRON BRANCH DEVELOPED THAT WAS RECENTLY STARTED ON COUNTY ROAD 208, BUILDING HOMES ON ONE ACRE LOTS ON THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION.

THE DEVELOPER REQUESTS A DENSITY OF 1.0 GROSS ACRES OR GROSS UNITS PER ACRE.

THAT'S 335 HOMES. HOWEVER, THAT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE AMOUNT OF WETLANDS ON THE SITE.

THE HEADWATERS OF SIXMILE CREEK. SUBTRACTING THESE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LANDS WOULD EQUATE TO A MUCH HIGHER DENSITY THAN SURROUNDING AREAS LIKE, SAY, THREE HOMES, AN ACRE OR MORE. AGAIN, THE AFI HUDSON PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SITES DIRECTLY ON TOP OF AND ADJACENT TO THE HEADWATERS OF SIXMILE CREEK, WHICH SERVES AS A SERVICE TO OUR ENTIRE AREA AS A NATURAL DRAINAGE BASIN.

DISRUPTING THIS CRITICAL WATERSHED WILL CAUSE LOCALIZED FLOODING, PUSHING DISPLACED STORMWATER DIRECTLY INTO NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES DOWN THE CREEK LINE. SIXMILE CREEK, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, FLOWS UNDER PICETTI ROAD THROUGH THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BEHIND TRAIL MARK AND HERITAGE LANDING AND HOMES ALONG JOE ASHTON ROAD BEFORE EMPTYING INTO THE SAINT JOHNS RIVER BY THE OUTBACK CRAB SHACK, RIGHT WHERE COUNTY ROAD 13 ALREADY FLOODS DURING STORMS AND THE BRIDGE OFTEN GETS CLOSED WHEN IT'S HURRICANE SEASON.

I KNOW. FURTHERMORE, WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC SERVICES LIKE WATER OR SEWER OUT IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTY.

THE MAJORITY OF US RELY ON WELL WATER AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS, AS IS TYPICAL FOR AGRICULTURE. THANK YOU.

TOM REYNOLDS 1244. MILE 32084. AND SINCE THE LAST MEETING THAT I ATTENDED BEFORE I WENT INTO A COMA. 250 000 VAPES, BOTH TOBACCO, MARIJUANA, AND MARIJUANA CONTAINERS ALL IN THE TRASH.

BUT THIS ONE HERE, I GOTTA SHOW YOU THIS ONE, BECAUSE THIS ONE HERE IS THE MIND BLOWING TO ME.

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ABSOLUTELY A DISGRACE. THE MARIJUANA INDUSTRY.

I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT WEED, BUT I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING.

THEY ARE NOT ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY. THEY ABSOLUTELY MAKE ME SICK.

AND I'M ASKING YOU TO DO SOMETHING. WHY DON'T YOU STAND UP AND PUT A HAZMAT DEPOSIT? $10. THROW IN THE LIGHTERS. ANOTHER THING GOING INTO THE DUMP EVERY SINGLE DAY, 4 TO 5000 OF THESE CONTAINERS GOING IN.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE. I'VE BEEN COMING AT YOU FOR A WHILE WITH THIS.

TWO. DON'T ANYBODY WORRY ABOUT AGRICULTURE ENCLAVES BECAUSE BRIAN. DONALD HAS ALREADY GOT THIS LAND SETTLED, BABY.

THIS IS DATA CENTER COUNTRY AND WE'RE GOING BIG ON DATA CENTERS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SO MANY DATA CENTERS NOW, FOLKS.

BRIAN DONALD, EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS DATA CENTER BOY.

HE'S PRO DATA CENTER. IN FACT, HIS ENDORSER. WELL, NOT THIS GUY.

THIS GUY CAN'T STAND HIM. NOW, THIS GUY RIGHT HERE, DONALD TRUMP, WE ALL KNOW HE'S PRO DATA CENTER.

BUT WHAT HE SAID, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A DATA CENTER IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUNCH OF DUMMIES THERE.

NOW, FOLKS ALSO TOO, AS YOU KNOW, THIS GUY IN THE MIDDLE, I WANT YOU TO KNOW HE BRINGS ME TO MY FLOCK CAMERAS.

I'M PRO FLOCK CAMERA. IN FACT, I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE SECURITY WHEN FLORIDA IS NOW THE PEDOPHILE CAPITAL OF THE UNITED STATES. MORE PEDOPHILES THAN CALIFORNIA, NEVADA, ARIZONA, NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY PUT TOGETHER.

THEY'RE FLOCKING HERE BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS PEDOPHILE STATE RIGHT HERE, THE PEDOPHILE CREW RIGHT OUT OF MAR A LAGO.

SO ANYWAYS, FOLKS, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT TODAY.

REMEMBER NOW DESANTIS IS SENDING OUT A SECRET VOTING POLICE.

MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR BRIAN DONALDS SIGNS IN YOUR FRONT YARD, OR YOU COULD BE ARRESTED.

THANK YOU. HEY, I JUST I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

WAS THAT WAS THAT LAST PICTURE YOU SHOWED? AI GENERATED? NO, SIR. I GOT THAT FROM THE EPSTEIN FILE. OKAY.

I SUSPECT YOU. MAY FIND YOUR OWN FACE ON THE PLANET.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. CHRIS FARRELL WITH AUDUBON FLORIDA FOR TEN ALAPPAT AVENUE, SAINT AUGUSTINE.

WELL, THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER THE PALM VALLEY APPLICATION SATISFIES ALL THE AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE CRITERIA.

I WANT TO FOCUS ON ONE REASON THAT SHOULD CLEARLY LEAD TO A DENIAL.

THE NEW LAW DEFINES AN AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE AS A PARCEL OR PARCELS THAT, AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2025, MEET THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER JANUARY 1ST APPLIES TO THE PARCEL ITSELF OR TO CONDITIONS ON THE LAND. CAN A LANDOWNER CREATE A PARCEL LATER THAN LOOK BACKWARDS TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE NEWLY SELECTED CONFIGURATION WOULD HAVE QUALIFIED IN 2025? IMPORTANTLY, THIS IS AN ISSUE OF FIRST IMPRESSION UNDER THE NEW LAW.

THAT MEANS THERE'S NO CONTROLLING FLORIDA COURT THAT HAS ANSWERED THE QUESTION, LEAVING THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WITHOUT ANY JUDICIAL GUIDANCE ON HOW TO APPLY THIS LANGUAGE. THE APPLICANT'S INTERPRETATION FREEZES THE CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND, BUT NOT THE PARCEL BEING TESTED UNDER THAT READING.

A LANDOWNER CAN SURVEY AND DESIGNATE A PARCEL LATER, THEN APPLY THOSE BOUNDARIES BACKWARDS TO 2025 CONDITIONS.

YOU'VE ALSO HEARD THE COURT CASE CITED FOR THE BROAD DEFINITION OF PARCEL.

IT SAYS THEY HAVE TO HAVE DEFINITE BOUNDARIES AND THE OWNER MUST DESIGNATE IT AS A UNIT FOR DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE KNOW FROM THE APPLICATION BOTH OF THOSE OCCURRED AFTER JANUARY 1ST, 2025.

THE BETTER READING OF THIS NEW LAW IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

WHEN THE LEGISLATURE SAID PARCEL OR PARCELS THAT AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2025, THEY MEANT THE PARCEL BEING CERTIFIED HAD TO EXIST ON THAT DATE.

THAT MAY SOUND LIKE A FINE DISTINCTION, BUT LAWS OFTEN TURN ON PRECISE LANGUAGE, AND THE ALTERNATIVE READING HAS SIGNIFICANT CONSEQUENCES.

A LANDOWNER COULD EXAMINE THE 2025 CONDITIONS, DRAW A BOUNDARY THAT APPEARS TO QUALIFY AND APPLY.

IF THAT CONFIGURATION FAILS, THE LINES CAN BE MOVED.

LANDS COULD BE INCLUDED. LANDS COULD BE EXCLUDED, A NEW PARCEL COULD BE DESIGNATED AND A NEW APPLICATION.

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THIS IS A FAR REACHING INTERPRETATION OF THIS LAW.

AND IT COULD MEAN THAT APPLICATION OF REPEATED APPLICATIONS REPEATED STAFF REVIEW.

SO I HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION IS NOT WILLING TO ESTABLISH THAT PRECEDENT AS THE ACCEPTED INTERPRETATION OF THE READING OF THIS LAW.

SO IMPORTANTLY, THE PARCELS PRESENTED FOR CERTIFICATION DID NOT EXIST AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2025 UNDER THE THE BETTER AND THE SIMPLE READING OF THE LANGUAGE IN SECTION 3164, FOR IT DOES NOT QUALIFY AND THE COMMISSION SHOULD DENY THE APPLICATION IF THE APPLICANT DISAGREES.

AND THE STATUTE PROVIDES FOR JUDICIAL REVIEW OF THAT DENIAL, ALLOWING A COURT TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE OF FIRST IMPRESSION.

AND EXACTLY WHAT DO THOSE WORDS MEAN RATHER THAN HAVE THAT BURDEN PLACED ON YOU? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MIKE DUNLOP. I RESIDE AT 1455 TAMARIND PLACE IN FRUIT COVE.

I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY IN PALM VALLEY.

WE WERE SUPPORTED IN AN ISSUE THAT CAME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION EARLIER ON THIS YEAR.

I REALLY THERE'S BEEN MANY DIFFERENT ARGUMENTS MADE TO THIS COMMISSION AND I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT THOSE.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSION WHAT IS THE RUSH? OTHER THAN THIS BOARD'S MAKEUP WILL CHANGE LATER IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

I, I, BEFORE I RETIRED, I WAS THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF A LOCAL COMPANY AND WE OPERATED THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.

LAWS ARE DEBATABLE. I THINK THERE'S BEEN CASES MADE ON BOTH SIDES AS TO WHY THIS ENCLAVE SHOULD BE APPROVED AND WHY IT SHOULDN'T.

AGAIN, WHAT IS THE RUSH TO GET IT APPROVED TODAY? I THINK MANY PEOPLE HAVE STATED, LET'S TAKE IT BEFORE A PANEL OF EXPERTS DENY IT TODAY, FIGHT IT IN A COURT OF LAW, AND LET GREATER MINDS ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE DEBATE AND LOOK AT THE LAWS.

WE'VE HEARD BOTH SIDES HERE. I DON'T THINK. I'M CERTAINLY NOT AN EXPERT.

I CERTAINLY WAS INVOLVED IN LEGAL ARGUMENTS WHERE BOTH SIDES WERE PRESENTED.

THERE'S A REASON WE HAVE MANY DIFFERENT LAYERS OF APPEAL BECAUSE DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS CAN BE HEARD AND THEN THE MERIT CAN BE DECIDED AGAIN.

I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE RUSHED TODAY. THIS IS FAR TOO IMPORTANT.

ONCE APPROVED, WE CAN'T GO BACK. I'M ASKING YOU TO DENY IT AND THEN FIGHT IT IN COURT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

TOM. GEORGE. FIVE. FIVE, EIGHT DEERFIELD ROAD.

I'M NOT GOING TO DISCUSS THE WATER BECAUSE I'VE BEEN UP HERE THREE TIMES AND IT'S GOING TO DEAF EARS.

WE ARE IN A WATER CRISIS, AND THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.

BUT THERE'S ANOTHER THING THAT I'VE ALSO MENTIONED BEFORE IS THE FACT OF THE MATTER THAT THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAS AN EASEMENT FROM PALM VALLEY ROAD OR PALM VALLEY BRIDGE NORTH ALL THE WAY TO THE DUVAL COUNTY LINE.

THEY HAVE GOT A PERMANENT EASEMENT FOR DREDGING FOR TRUCKS TO HAUL DREDGE MATERIALS OUT OF THAT AREA WHEN THEY DO USE IT. AND NOBODY HAS MENTIONED THAT.

NOBODY HAS INVESTIGATED THAT I HAVE. AND I THINK Y'ALL NEED TO DO IT TOO.

JUST LIKE EVERYBODY'S BEEN SAYING, WE NEED EXPERTS, NOT JUST ME, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR OVER 50 YEARS AND WE'RE DRILLING WELLS FOR ALMOST 60 YEARS AND TOLD Y'ALL HOW WE ARE IN A CRISIS ON WATER.

SO THIS RIGHT HERE WAS NOT IN THE PERIMETER OF THE PERMIT THAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR FROM Y'ALL.

AND Y'ALL DID NOT INVESTIGATED IT. AND I ASKED Y'ALL TO DO IT THREE MEETINGS AGO.

SIMPLE AS THAT. NOW, WITHOUT THE EXPERTS, THERE SHOULD BE NO VOTE AT ALL EXCEPT FOR DENY. UNTIL YOU ALL GET THE CORRECT INFORMATION FROM THE EXPERTS.

GET THE EXPERTS HERE. GET SAINT JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

GET THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HERE. GET PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS COUNTY.

BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON UNDERNEATH THIS GROUND.

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THAT'S WHY WE DON'T IRRIGATE ABOVE THE GROUND, BECAUSE IT WILL BURN THE FOLIAGE.

SO WE FLOOD, IRRIGATE, AND THAT'S WHY WE GROW POTATOES AND STUFF THAT LIKE SODIUM AND MAGNESIUM.

BUT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, Y'ALL ARE MOVING WAY TOO FAST WITHOUT ANY EXPERT OPINIONS THAT Y'ALL NEED TO HEAR AND LISTEN TO AND ABIDE TO.

SIMPLE AS THAT. AND WOW, I GOT 36 MINUTES LEFT.

WELL, Y'ALL HAVE A BLESSED DAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS RYAN CONNOLLY.

LIVE IN HASTINGS. TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT MR. GEORGE SAID AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT. WELLS USED TO PUT OUT 28 POUNDS OF PRESSURE FOR GROUNDWATER WELLS.

50 YEARS AGO TODAY, THEY PUT OUT 5 POUNDS OF PRESSURE.

THAT MEANS IN TEN YEARS THEY PUT OUT 0 POUNDS OF PRESSURE.

IF WE CONTINUE AT THE CURRENT RATE, HOWEVER, WE ARE DEVELOPING AT A MUCH FASTER RATE THAN THAT.

AND THAT'S MY FOCUS OF TODAY. THE ARGUMENT I'D LIKE TO SUPPORT WOULD BE THE DENIAL OF ANY ENCLAVE, UNLESS THEY CAN PROVE WHERE THEY'RE GETTING THE WATER FROM.

AND I GUESS TO GIVE YOU GUYS SOME AMMO WOULD BE TO LOOK AT STATUTE 163.3162 AND STATUTE 163.3164. AND ESSENTIALLY THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO VERIFY WHERE THE ACTUAL WHERE THE WATER IS ACTUALLY COMING FROM AND THAT THE APPLICANT'S EVIDENCE CAN DEMONSTRATE ACTUAL SOURCE WATER AVAILABILITY.

AND IN 2023, THE NORTH FLORIDA REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY PLAN PROJECTS FRESHWATER GROUND DEMAND, MEANING IT COMES FROM A WELL UNDER 200FT OR ABOVE 200FT.

WOULD INCREASE FROM 461 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER PER DAY TO 596 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER PER DAY BY 2045.

AND ESSENTIALLY, WHAT THIS PLAN REACHES A CLEAR CONCLUSION OF IS THAT FRESH GROUNDWATER ALONE CANNOT MEET PROJECTED FUTURE DEMAND WITHOUT CAUSING UNACCEPTABLE IMPACTS TO OUR WATER RESOURCES. IT ALSO RECOGNIZED THAT IN SOME AREAS, EXISTING WITHDRAWALS HAVE ALREADY EXCEEDED SUSTAINABLE YIELD.

SO THIS MAY NOT AFFECT YOU, BUT IT WILL AFFECT MY CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN.

OUR COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS THAT WE INTEND TO PROTECT RURAL CHARACTER, AGRICULTURAL VIABILITY AND GROUNDWATER AND AQUIFER RECHARGE AND ADDRESSING THE LAND. ROUGHLY, THERE'S ABOUT 384 000 ACRES OF LAND IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

HALF OF THAT IS ZONED AS RURAL OR CIVIC CULTURE OR AGRICULTURE INTENSIVE LANDS AS THESE AG ENCLAVES ARE ZONED.

OVER THE PAST 15 YEARS, WE'VE DEVELOPED ROUGHLY 12,000 ACRES THAT WERE ZONED UNDER PREVIOUS MENTION TO EITHER COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL.

OF THE CURRENT AG ENCLAVES ON THE DOCKET, WE HAVE ON TODAY'S DOCKET 5000 ACRES.

THAT'S ROUGHLY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HALF OF THE GROWTH WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST 15 YEARS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE'RE SEEING IN THE PAST, SINCE SEPTEMBER 1ST, WHEN THESE APPLICANTS WENT IN. MY GROWTH, MY ARGUMENT IS NOT AGAINST GROWTH.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S NECESSARY AND IT HAPPENS. BUT THAT GROWTH MUST FOLLOW AND CARRY CAPACITY OF OUR LAND AND WATER SUPPLY.

AND LASTLY, I'D LIKE TO ENTER ON THE RECORD. I WAS RIDING HORSES THROUGH IGUANA YESTERDAY.

AND WHERE NORMALLY YOU WALK THROUGH, I UNDERSTAND WITH HIGH TIDES AND WHATNOT, THE TIDES ARE DIFFERENT, BUT WE HAVE IT WAS DURING LOW TIDE AND NO MOON AND THE WATER IS FLOODING, IF WE CAN SEE THAT. RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THE WATER IS FLOODING YOUR WALKWAY AND THIS IS JUST SOUTH OF SAID DAVIS FAMILY PROPERTY.

BUT I'M NOT AGAINST THAT FAMILY. I'M FAMILY. JUST SAYING.

WATER AND LAND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE? GOOD AFTERNOON. COMMISSIONERS.

ELLEN AVERY SMITH, ROGERS TOWERS, 100 WHETSTONE PLACE HERE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I SUBMITTED INTO THE RECORD YESTERDAY THIS LETTER.

I AM GOING TO READ JUST PART OF IT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME ON BEHALF OF BR 4700 WHICH IS THE APPLICANT FOR INSERT 2020 601. WE OBJECT TO THE BOARD HOLDING YET ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING ON THE APPLICATION, AND STATE THE FOLLOWING REASONS FOR OUR OBJECTION.

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FROM AUGUST 19TH BY BOARD ACTION. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SEPTEMBER 1ST HEARING, THE BOARD CLOSED THE HEARING.

SECTION 1633162 SUBPARAGRAPHS FOUR. C PROVIDES THAT WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER.

THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROVIDES THE REPORT UNDER WHICH REQUIRED.

UNDER PARAGRAPH B, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT SHALL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, MEANING SINGULAR, TO APPROVE OR DENY CERTIFICATION.

THE COUNTY PROVIDED ITS REPORT DATED JULY 31ST, 2026, TO THE OWNER.

A QUASI JUDICIAL PUBLIC HEARING WAS PROPERLY NOTICED AND HELD ON AUGUST 19TH, AND THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WAS CONTINUED BY BOARD ACTION TO SEPTEMBER 1ST FOR THE SECOND. FOR THE SEPTEMBER 1ST HEARING.

A SECOND STAFF REPORT WAS DATED AUGUST 24TH, 2026 WAS POSTED ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE.

THE CONTINUED HEARING WAS HELD AND CLOSED ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.

ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2026, TOGETHER WITH THE AGENDA FOR THE SEPTEMBER 5TH 15TH MEETING.

A THIRD STAFF REPORT DATED SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2026 WAS POSTED ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE.

THE STATUTE CLEARLY CONTEMPLATES ONE HEARING HELD WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE COUNTY'S ONE STAFF REPORT ON THE CERTIFICATION, THE COUNTY ISSUED A REPORT AND ON AUGUST 19TH CONTINUED THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS APPLICATION TO SEPTEMBER 1ST.

THEN, THE COUNTY ISSUED A SECOND STAFF REPORT AND HELD, IN EFFECT, A CONTINUED SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 1ST AT WHICH THE HEARING WAS CLOSED ON SEPTEMBER 9TH. THE COUNTY POSTED A THIRD STAFF REPORT AND AN AGENDA FOR ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IN EFFECT IS A THIRD PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 15TH.

AGAIN. THE STATUTE AUTHORIZES ONE STAFF REPORT WITHIN 30 DAYS THEREAFTER, ONE PUBLIC HEARING ALSO TO THE STAFF. EACH OF THE REPORTS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS THE BOARD HAVE BOARD HAS REVIEWED NEW EVIDENCE SUBMITTED INTO THE BY THE PUBLIC, ALSO IN VIOLATION OF SECTIONS 1633162, FOUR, B AND C, AND OUR LETTER IN ITS ENTIRETY IS IN THE RECORD.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING SO FAR, BJ WATT, CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

THE SHERIFF SHOULD FOLLOW JACKSONVILLE SHERIFF AND DISCONTINUE LICENSE PLATE READER IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

MAKING ALL MUG SHOTS OF THOSE ARRESTED WILL ENABLE THE PUBLIC TO ASSIST LAW ENFORCEMENT, ACCORDING TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE, THE POPULATION OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY IS 348 MILLION.

OH, NO. 348,131. THOSE EXEMPT FROM PAYING PROPERTY TAXES RESULTS IN A LOSS OF REVENUE, ALSO KNOWN AS INCOME, TO SAINT JOHNS COUNTY OF $9,861,950,678. MISS ANDREWS, AN ANNUAL SALARY IS NOT 300,000, BUT 368,121 TAX DOLLARS.

ADD TWO DEPUTY ADMINISTRATORS AND ONE ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR.

THE TOTAL COST IS 996,135 TAX DOLLARS. IF YOU BELIEVE THE SCARE TACTICS.

CONCERNING AMENDMENT THREE. PLEASE CONTACT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND ASK HIM TO ELIMINATE YOUR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

THEN YOU CAN HAVE EVERYTHING YOU WANT. PLEASE VOTE YES ON THREE IN NOVEMBER.

WELL, I GOT ONE. 26. I GUESS I'M NOT GOING TO GET AN EXTRA SEVEN SECONDS BECAUSE I'M NOT AN EXPERT.

AGENDA ITEM ONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE END OF THE AGENDA.

YOU DO NOT RESPECT THE CITIZENS THAT COME INTO THIS MEETING WHENEVER THEY CAN GET OFF WORK AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR KIDS, OR HAVE SOMEONE TAKE CARE OF THEIR KIDS. PUTTING THAT AT NUMBER ONE, WE'RE AT CAN'T SEE IT.

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WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? AND THIS IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT.

WHEN WE GET NEW PEOPLE UP HERE, YOU RESPECT THE PUBLIC.

WE ARE NOT PAID TO SIT HERE LIKE, QUOTE, EXPERTS.

THEY'RE NOT EXPERTS. EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION.

YOU GO TO SCHOOL, YOU LEARN SOMETHING, THEN YOU COME OUT.

YOU'RE NOT AN EXPERT. YOU JUST HAVE SOME OPINIONS BASED ON WHATEVER YOU WERE TAUGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO COME TO THIS MEETING.

AND WHETHER YOU LISTEN TO IT AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT, IT REALLY IS UP TO YOU.

WE AS PUBLIC, I THANK YOU AND THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT THIS MORNING AND SPEAKING FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS, BE GRATEFUL THAT WE CAN STILL SPEAK IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? COME ON UP. OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

WOW. OKAY. NOBODY ELSE. FANTASTIC. LET'S ROLL RIGHT INTO.

WE'VE HAD OUR. TIME. CERTAIN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.

SO LET'S GO INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. SO BECAUSE THIS

[2. District 4 Public Hearing * Continued Board Consideration - ENCERT 2026-01 N Palm Valley Rd. The Board initially heard the application for agricultural enclave certification on August 19, 2026, and continued the hearing to September 1, 2026. At the September 1 hearing, a motion to deny certification failed, followed by a motion to approve certification, which also failed. No further action was taken on the application. On September 3, 2026, during commissioner comments after the budget hearing, it was requested the application be placed on the September 15, 2026 agenda for further consideration. The Application requests Agricultural Enclave Certification pursuant to Sections 163.3162 and 163.3164, Florida Statutes. This certification request includes approximately 4,462 acres. The subject property is located North of Nocatee Parkway, west of the Intracoastal Waterway, and east of the Duval County line.]

WELL COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST LET ME GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IF YOU'D LIKE.

MR. CHAIR, HAVING HEARD AND CONSIDERED ALL THE EVIDENCE, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY. LET ME LET ME HANG ON JUST A SECOND. AND THE REASON I WANT TO SAY THAT IS I WANTED TO ASK THE BOARD A QUESTION.

IF THERE HAS ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TODAY BY THE PUBLIC THAT IS NEW THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING, THEN WE MUST GIVE THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT.

SO LET ME GO DOWN THE DOWN THE ROW. IF I CAN I CAN ASK COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, IS THERE ANYTHING NEW THAT YOU'VE HEARD THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR? YES. SINCE IT'S MY DISTRICT, AND I'M. I'M GOING TO PROCEED TO MAKE A MOTION BEFORE COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALIZE HE WAS GOING TO JUMP INTO THIS.

BUT I HAVE HEARD NEW INFORMATION AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BRAD RUSSELL RIGHT THERE YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO ASK HIM UP TO ASK HIM MORE QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK WHAT HE PROPOSED IS EXCELLENT.

AND IT IS A REFER TO THE ACT OF SUBDIVIDING RATHER THAN THE RESULTING OF SUBDIVIDING.

IT'S A DEVELOPMENT. AND I DO THINK THAT THERE'S OTHER OTHER PROBLEMS, AS IN THEY DID NOT DO AN ACTUAL SURVEY, A LAND SURVEY OF ITSELF INSTEAD OF THEY WERE JUST EYEBALLING IT.

SO I MEAN, I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT I'M THE REPRESENTATIVE.

I HAVE 27,700 PEOPLE VOTED FOR ME, AND I'M REPRESENTING THE VOTER.

AND THE VOTE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYBODY EVEN KNOWS.

AND I'VE BEEN UP HERE FOR FOUR YEARS, AND I KNOW WHAT VOTING DOES TO PEOPLE.

IT KICKS THEM OUT. YOU DON'T YOU DON'T YOU DON'T LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE.

YOU DON'T REPRESENT THEM. AND LET ME TELL YOU THAT THE MEMORY IS, IS, IS UP FRONT AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FORGET.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD DO WHAT WE I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS, I THINK A JUDGE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS ENCLAVE.

I THINK ALL THE ONES THAT HAVE COME ON HAVE HAVE NOTICED THAT WE APPROVED IT SO QUICKLY.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DISCRETION. I THINK THE ONE GENTLEMAN OUT HERE GAVE SOME GOOD POINTS ABOUT HAVING ACTUAL PEOPLE LOOK AT THE NEW LAW, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU CHALLENGE A NEW LAW. I THINK THIS IS THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT.

I THINK THIS WILL DESTROY OUR COMMUNITY. I'M NOT AGAINST SEEING THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S SKIPPING THE BOARD.

IT'S SKIPPING THE VOTER, IT'S SKIPPING EVERYONE THAT HAS VOTED TO PUT US UP HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION OR LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT REASONS HOW WE WE DEVELOP THAT AREA. SO IT CONFORMS AND, AND DOES THE THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC WANTS IT TO DO.

IF YOU IF IT GOES DIRECTLY TO OUR, OUR, I HATE TO CALL THEM STAFF, BUT IT GOES DIRECTLY TO OUR TEAM.

THEY'RE NOT ELECTED. YOU KNOW, WE ARE ELECTED.

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS GREAT COUNTRY IS ALL ABOUT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY BEFORE YOU MAKE AGRICULTURE.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S GOING TO GO. DO YOU KNOW.

WELL THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, DID YOU CONSIDER ANYTHING NEW? AND I SAID TWICE, BUT I CAN ALSO. BUT IT ALSO AFFORDS HER THE OPPORTUNITY, AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT.

I PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE AND LET HER THEN DO WHATEVER REBUTTAL THING SHE WANTS TO DO.

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I MEAN, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST INDICATED HE WAS INTENDING TO PUT ONE FORWARD AS WELL.

SO AS THE CHAIR, YOU JUST HAVE TO RECOGNIZE WHO YOU'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE AND PUT FORWARD.

WELL, I HAVE THE FLOOR NOW, AND I'M ASKING YOU THAT QUESTION, AND I'D LIKE TO PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO SAY I'D LIKE TO DENY THIS MOTION FOR THE AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE CERTIFICATION APPLICATION.

INSERT 2026-01 FINDING BASED UPON THE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE CONTAINED IN THE RECORD, AS WELL AS PRESENTED TODAY, THAT THE SUBJECT PARCELS DO NOT SATISFY THE STATUTORY DEFINITION OF AN AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE UNDER SECTION 163.3164 FLORIDA STATUTES AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR.

EXCUSE ME AND DIRECT THE OFFICE OF COUNTY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE THE WRITTEN FINAL WRITTEN ORDER, INCLUDING FINDINGS OF FACT CONCLUSIONS OF LAW SUPPORTING THE BOARD'S DETERMINATION, AS REQUIRED BY SECTION 163.3162 FLORIDA STATUTES.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. FOLKS, PLEASE, PLEASE HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE AND LET US DO OUR BUSINESS.

I APPRECIATE YOU. I WILL SECOND THAT. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND, MISS.

MISS SMITH, YOU YOU HAVE A YOU HAVE A A DUTY TO REBUT THE NEW EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN PROCEEDED HERE.

WELL, MR. CHAIR, AS A POINT OF ORDER YOU WERE AT THE POINT WHERE THE COMMISSIONERS HAD TO DISCLOSE WHETHER OR NOT THEY HEARD ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

NOW, WE'VE MOVED BEYOND THAT. SO WE'VE BEEN PREJUDICED BY COMMISSIONER JOSEPH NOT ALLOWING EVERYONE ON THE BOARD TO SAY WHETHER OR NOT THEY HEARD ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TODAY. SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD AS AN OBJECTION UNDER DUE PROCESS REQUIREMENTS.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF THE BOARD IF THERE'S ANY OTHER EVIDENCE, AND THEN I WILL PREPARE TO REBUT.

OKAY. HAVE YOU DID YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION ALREADY? I'VE HEARD NO NEW EVIDENCE. OKAY. HOW ABOUT YOU, MR. TAYLOR? HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING NEW? I WOULD LIKE TO ASK RICH COMMANDO ABOUT HIS THE ATTORNEY.

RUSSELL. BRAD RUSSELL'S READING OF IT. LIKE, WHAT ARE YOUR OPINIONS OF WHAT I MEAN? HE SENT US AN EMAIL. HE SENT US A LETTER. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION OF OF WHAT HE SHARED WITH US? JUST LIKE MUCH OF WHAT IS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION AT THIS POINT.

I MEAN, ATTORNEYS PROVIDE ARGUMENT. ATTORNEYS CAN POINT OUT THINGS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE FINDINGS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT CONSTITUTES COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

AS WAS APTLY POINTED OUT, STAFF IS NOT ELECTED TO ANYTHING.

GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING NEW, SO I WOULD ALLOW YOU TO REBUT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

JUST JUST BRIEFLY. I BELIEVE JUST IN SUMMARY, THAT THE LETTER THAT MR. RUSSELL HAS DRAFTED IS INACCURATE IN A FEW WAYS.

FIRST OF ALL, BY THE WAY, THERE ARE AFFIDAVITS THAT HE TALKS ABOUT IN HIS LETTER THAT ARE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

THEY'VE BEEN PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FOR MORE THAN A WEEK.

THAT INCLUDES OUR EXHIBITS 3.1, WHICH IS MY AFFIDAVIT, WHICH, BY THE WAY, I HAVE BEEN PRACTICING LAW IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

I AM FLORIDA BAR, A BAR LICENSED. I'VE BEEN PRACTICING HERE SINCE 1997.

IN 20 YEARS IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY. THIS AFFIDAVIT CLEARLY, AND I DO.

I WILL GO THROUGH THE POWERPOINT IF WE NEED TO PUT IT UP.

BUT IN THIS AFFIDAVIT AND WE WENT THROUGH THIS TESTIMONY THE LAST TIME AROUND GOING TO THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT OF 1633164. THIS IS FOR SUBPARAGRAPH C AND THEN IT IS SUBPARAGRAPH, IT IS C1B. SO IT TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT AN AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE HAS TO HAVE BEEN SURROUNDED ON AT LEAST 75% OF ITS PERIMETER BY A PARCEL OR PARCELS THAT ARE DESIGNATED IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR INDUSTRIAL, RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.

AND AT LEAST 50% OF THE PARCELS ARE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

HE MISSED THAT NUANCE IN HIS LETTER. AND SO WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS 75% OF THIS PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY PROPERTY THAT HAS A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT ALLOWS DEVELOPMENT.

AND MORE THAN 50% OF THE LAND IS SURROUNDED BY PLATTED LOTS AND PLATTED LOTS BY DEFINITION, IN 13804 I'M JUST GOING TO PUT THESE UP HERE QUICKLY.

THESE ARE THE SAME AS THE SLIDES THAT YOU SAW LAST WEEK.

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THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF DEVELOPMENT. ALL THE PROPERTIES ALONG ROSCOE BOULEVARD ARE PLATTED.

THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF DEVELOPMENT. MOREOVER, THE PROPERTIES, EVEN IF THEY DON'T HAVE HOMES ON THEM, ON ROSCOE, THEY HAVE SEAWALLS. THEY HAVE HAD HOMES CONSTRUCTED ON THEM.

THEY HAVE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF DEVELOPMENT.

SO I DO FIND THAT THIS THAT THIS LETTER AGAIN IS MISSING THE MARK IN A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE.

AND ALSO IN SAYING THAT SOME OF THE EVIDENCE WAS NOT IN THE RECORD, BECAUSE CLEARLY MY AFFIDAVIT HAS BEEN IN THE RECORD SINCE SEPTEMBER 1ST AND WAS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. SO WITH THAT, WE ALSO HAVE OUR SURVEYOR HERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. JUST IN MY AGAIN, PRACTICING HERE FOR 20 YEARS.

IT IS COMMONPLACE TO PROVIDE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS IN METES AND BOUNDS.

IT'S DONE ON REZONING APPLICATIONS, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATIONS.

EVERY APPLICATION ON A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING CAN HAVE A METES AND BOUNDS LEGAL DESCRIPTION, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE PROVIDED SINCE DAY ONE AS EXHIBIT TWO.

AND SO I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION, AND I THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YES. IS THERE ANY WAY I CAN CALL BRAD RUSSELL TO ASK HIM A QUESTION REAL QUICK OR NOT, CHAIR? OH, I DON'T KNOW. YES, YES. NO, IT'S NOT FOR YOU TO DECIDE.

PLEASE. I THOUGH I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. CAN I CALL BRET? MR. RUSSELL RUSSELL UP HERE? I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW LONG HE'S BEEN AN ATTORNEY.

I JUST WANTED TO. YOU KNOW, SHE SAID SHE'S BEEN PART OF.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

IT'S TWO DIFFERENT OPINIONS, TWO DIFFERENT ATTORNEYS.

THIS IS WHY A COURT WOULD BE PERFECT TO TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION OF WHAT THIS REALLY IS FOR THE REST OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

REALLY. AND AND IT WILL BE ON THE INSURANCE THAT WE HAVE.

AND IT WOULD BE CLEAR AND IT WOULD SEND A MESSAGE TO EVERYONE ELSE WHO'S PUTTING IN ALL THEIR APPLICATIONS. MR..

CAN I ASK MR. RUSSELL HOW LONG HE'S LIVED HERE AND HOW, WHAT HIS EXPERIENCE IS AS COMMISSION? YOU CAN ASK HIM ANYTHING YOU WANT. GREAT. HAVE HIM COME UP.

JUST UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU GET INTO WHERE YOU'RE ACCEPTING THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE PUBLIC HEARING, IT CREATES A DUE PROCESS ISSUE. WELL, IF WE'RE GOING TO GET SUED ANYWAY, EITHER WAY, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. RUSSELL. I WOULD LIKE FOR IT NOT TO BE, BUT FOR DUE PROCESS ISSUES.

SO CAN YOU JUST SAY HOW LONG HE'S BEEN HERE AND WHAT HE'S DONE IN HIS LIFE AND WHO HE'S WORKED FOR? I MEAN, SHE JUST SAID HER 20 YEARS AND WHATEVER.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. I WONDER IF I MIGHT VERY BRIEFLY COMMENT THAT I'M NOT INTENDING TO PRESENT EVIDENCE.

I'M INTENDING TO PRESENT ONLY SOME STATUTORY INTERPRETATION THAT YOUR HONOR MIGHT CONSIDER.

AND I'VE BEEN A LAWYER SINCE 2006. I BEGAN PRACTICING IN JACKSONVILLE.

I WENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR SIX AND A HALF YEARS, AND THEN I CAME BACK TO JACKSONVILLE.

AND WHAT COLLEGE DID YOU GO TO? I WENT TO FLORIDA STATE FOR COLLEGE, AND I WENT TO WILLIAM AND MARY FOR LAW SCHOOL.

OKAY. AND HAVE YOU WON ANY FEDERAL CASES AGAINST COUNTY AT ALL? I BELIEVE YOU'RE AWARE OF ONE WHERE WE. SO YOU'RE PRETTY EXPERIENCED THEN? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ASK HIM, OR WHAT EXPERIENCE DO YOU HAVE WITH LAND USE? NOT MUCH. I'M A LITIGATOR. MY MY EXPERTISE IS IN READING STATUTES AND CRAFTING ARGUMENTS ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENTS.

ANYTHING ELSE? NO. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT THIS IS AN EXACTLY WHAT WE WHAT WE MEAN BY WE ARE IN UNCHARTERED TERRITORY.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN UNCHARTERED TERRITORY. CLEARLY, THERE ARE DIFFERENCES IN OPINION.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHY A COURTROOM NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS LITIGATION.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LITERALLY, THERE'S A MARGIN OF ERROR OF 512FT OUT OF 5800 ZERO FOOT PERIMETER.

THAT IS VERY, VERY NARROW, VERY, VERY CLOSE. AND I, I AGREE WITH OUR ATTORNEY THAT HAS REACHED OUT TO A NUMBER OF OTHER ATTORNEYS ON THIS, AS WELL AS I PERSONALLY HAVE.

AND CLEARLY, THE MESSAGE THAT WE HAVE HEARD IS THAT WE WANT TO DENY THIS AND DEFEND IT IN COURT.

WE CANNOT BE ANY CLEARER. AND THIS IS A PRIME, PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHY WE NEED TO DO THAT.

YOUR COMMENT AGREEING WITH OUR ATTORNEY. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MR. COMMANDER? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME? RICH ACTUALLY MADE A COMMENT. CAN CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU SHARED WITH US AT THAT AT THE MEETING WHEN YOU YOU ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO A NUMBER OF ATTORNEYS. GIVE IT A SECOND.

TOM, YOU NEED SOME HELP? THERE YOU GO. I DID REACH OUT TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ATTORNEYS,

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AND THE WAY THEY SAID WE WOULD GET THERE WOULD BE IF THERE WAS A DENIAL THAT WE WOULD MOST LIKELY BE DEFENDING IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

OKAY, GREAT. THANKS. COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THROUGH THE CHAIR TO MR. RUSSELL. WHO ARE YOUR CLIENTS? MY CLIENTS ARE A GROUP OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO WISH TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS.

OKAY. AND THAT GROUP IS. WHO'S PAYING YOU TO BE HERE TODAY? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? YES, SIR. BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S PHILOSOPHICAL VIEWPOINT.

AND THERE'S SOME COMMENTS BEING MADE ALONG THOSE LINES THAT I AGREE WITH ABOUT HOW WE REPRESENT THE PEOPLE AND THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND THE VOTES OF THE PEOPLE.

IT'S WORTH MENTIONING THAT WE DO LIVE IN A FREE MARKET ECONOMY.

YES. EVEN YOU, MR. SLOVIN, LIVE IN A FREE MARKET ECONOMY.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO CLARIFY. EVEN AT SLAVEN LIVES IN A FREE MARKET ECONOMY.

SO SOME OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF LIVING IN A FREE MARKET ECONOMY IS THAT WHEN YOU SPEND YOUR MONEY, YOU ARE VOTING FOR THE SUCCESS OF THOSE BUSINESSES.

WELL, IF YOU SPEND MONEY AND ENOUGH PEOPLE SPEND MONEY BUYING HAMBURGERS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE HAMBURGER RESTAURANTS OPENING UP. IF A LOT OF PEOPLE START RUNNING OUT AND BUYING A HONDA ACCORDS AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT MORE HONDA DEALERSHIPS OPENING UP.

SO EVERY PERSON WHO HAS CHOSEN IN OUR FREE MARKET ECONOMY TO RESIDE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY HAS VOTED FOR GROWTH AND HAS VOTED FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE HOUSING MARKET.

SO IN THIS. YEAH. SO ORDER, ORDER, PLEASE. YOU'VE HAD YOUR TURN.

I APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR FEEDBACK.

BUT THE GREAT THING ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID IS IT'S REALLY NOT DEBATABLE.

YOU STOP SPENDING MONEY ON HOUSING, PEOPLE WILL STOP BUILDING HOUSES.

YOU LOOK AT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THEY'VE LOST TWO CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS DUE TO POLICIES TO TOO MUCH HEAVY HANDED GOVERNMENT POLICY HAS LED TO PEOPLE FLEEING THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND THEY'RE NOT BUILDING HOUSES OUT THERE AS A RESULT OF THAT.

SO WE HAVE GOOD POLICIES HERE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA MORE FREEDOM, MORE PEOPLE.

SO EVERYBODY WHO'S MOVED HERE, INCLUDING, I GUESS ALL FIVE COMMISSIONERS ON THIS BOARD, WERE NOT BORN IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY AND AT SOME POINT HAVE CHOSEN TO MOVE TO AND LIVE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY. AT SOME POINT, EACH ONE OF THE FIVE COMMISSIONERS UP HERE HAS VOTED WITH THEIR DOLLARS FOR THE GROWTH OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

AND SO IT'S FOR THAT REASON THAT NO MATTER WHAT WE APPROVE, WE DON'T APPROVE THE HOUSES.

WE DON'T BUILD THE HOUSES. THE PEOPLE WHO PURCHASE THE HOUSES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GROWTH IN THE COUNTY.

SO IT WILL TAKE ALL OF US. WE, THE PEOPLE, WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE POWER ON WHETHER OR NOT MORE HOUSES GET BUILT OR NOT.

YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT OUR WATER. ORDER, PLEASE.

YOU'VE YOU'VE HAD YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AND SPEAK.

THIS IS THE BOARD'S TURN. THANKS. YES, MA'AM.

I MEAN, I'M SORRY TO SAY THIS, BUT WE WERE LEGITIMATELY VOTED UP HERE.

THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE QUESTIONING HOW THEY GOT HERE WITH THEIR VOTES RIGHT NOW.

AND I JUST THINK RIGHT NOW IS THE TIME TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OUT THERE.

AND THEY'VE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU WON CLAY BECAUSE YOU WERE SLOWING THE GROWTH.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY CAN'T DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR PROPERTY, BUT THEY NEED TO GO THROUGH THE ELECTED OFFICIALS BECAUSE THAT'S WHO WE REPRESENT.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT DOWN THERE, BUT PEOPLE MUST BE PAYING YOU A DIFFERENT WAY. BUT I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW THAT I AM GOING TO STAND UP FOR THIS COUNTY AND MY DISTRICT, BECAUSE PONTE VEDRA BEACH AND NOCATEE WILL COLLAPSE.

IF THIS STARTS WORKING RIGHT NOW. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE NOTHING FOR OUR KIDS, REALLY.

WE WON'T BE HERE TO SEE IT BECAUSE YES, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE DOING IT IN THE FUTURE AND IT'S JUST SAD.

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, WHO'S PAYING ME, I WANT YOU TO ELABORATE.

WELL, YOU'RE GETTING A SALARY HERE. WHO'S PAYING ME WHAT DIFFERENT THE PUBLIC, DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE PAYING ME.

NO, I JUST SAID THE PUBLIC'S PAYING YOU TO BE UP HERE.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I DIDN'T PUT ANY. I WASN'T PAYING.

WHICH DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE PAYING. LET'S GET BACK TO THE MEETING. LET ME LET ME JUST SAY THIS IF I MAY, BEFORE WE VOTE. ANYTHING ELSE? I JUST WANT HER TO BE SPECIFIC WHEN SHE'S GOING TO HURL THEY'RE PAYING YOU YOUR SALARY.

THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAID THE FIRST TIME. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. I WOULDN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION EITHER, IF I WERE YOU. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT. SORRY. SO THANK YOU. IS EVERYBODY.

IS EVERYBODY DONE? ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BOARD? THAT IS. OKAY. I'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH THIS FOR EVER SINCE I LEARNED OF IT BACK IN WHENEVER

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I THINK THE LAW DOES ALL THOSE THINGS. I THINK IT'S DESTRUCTIVE ON SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS.

WE ARE GOING TO FIGHT THIS LAW IN THE PROPER CHANNELS AND THE PROPER WAYS.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KEEP COMING UP AGAINST IS I KEEP COMING UP AGAINST THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY.

DEMOCRACY HAS BEEN CONSIDERED BY SOME TO BE ONE STEP AWAY FROM MOB RULE.

WE ARE A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WAS FOUNDED ON LAWS.

IF WE DON'T LIKE THEM, AND I DON'T. AND I'M GOING TO START A PETITION DRIVE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY STARTING TOMORROW.

AS SOON AS I FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT, AND ON THE OPENING DAY OF SESSION, I WILL CARRY AS MANY PETITIONS AS I CAN GET PERSONALLY TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO GET THIS LAW REPEALED. BUT THE CHALLENGE THAT I FACE IS THAT IT IS A LAW TODAY.

SO HOW DO WE RESOLVE THE. THE CHALLENGE OF MAINTAINING OUR COMMUNITY AND MAINTAINING OUR HOME RULE WITH BEING LAW ABIDING, LAW ABIDING AMERICANS.

AND HOW DO YOU DO THAT? AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE EVEN HAVE THE ANSWER.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I HAVE THE ABILITY TO TO PUSH A NO OR YES BUTTON RIGHT NOW.

I'M GOING TO. BUT THAT'S THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE.

ARE WE GOING TO STAND FOR WHAT'S RIGHT OR ARE WE GOING TO STAND FOR SOMETHING ELSE? AND ALTHOUGH I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE VOTERS HERE ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THEIR POSITION, I ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LAW THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.

SO IT'S A IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE. SO ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD? YES, MA'AM. I WOULD LOVE TO. AND I JUST WANT TO REALLY CLARIFY WHAT EXACTLY IS IN FRONT OF US TODAY.

THE BURDEN OF PROOF RESTS 100% ON THE APPLICANT.

IT'S NOT THE COUNTY'S JOB TO PROVE THAT THEIR APPLICATION IS FLAWED.

IT'S THE DEVELOPER'S JOB TO PROVE THAT IT'S FLAWLESS, AND THEY HAVE FAILED TO DO THAT.

THEY HAVE FAILED TO DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S FOR US.

THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. NOTHING ELSE.

THEN I SAY LET'S VOTE. THE VOTE ON THE TABLE.

LET'S REMIND EVERYBODY WHAT THE VOTE IS. THE VOTE IS TO DENY THIS AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE.

SO PUT IT UP, TOM. I DON'T HAVE IT ON MY MIND. BOY, ISN'T THAT WONDERFUL.

THERE WE GO. LET'S VOTE. OKAY, THAT VOTE TO DENIAL PASSES THREE TWO.

LET'S GO ON. LET'S GO ON TO DISTRICT. LET'S GO ON TO AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER THREE. PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT SANDY CREEK HAS BEEN PULLED.

WE'LL GO BACK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. THE AFI PROPERTY.

[4. Public Hearing * ENCERT 2026-08 AFI Property. Application for Agricultural Enclave Certification, pursuant to Sections 163.3162 and 163.3164, Chapter 2026-34, Florida Statutes. This certification request includes approximately 310 acres. The subject property is located West of Pacetti Road and North of County Road 208.]

SO PLEASE ALLOW US TO DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

MISS SMITH, YOU. WE HAVE IS THIS A YES? SOMEBODY HELP A BROTHER OUT HERE.

AND IT IS. LET ME START OVER HERE WITH COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

IF YOU'LL PUSH THAT BUTTON AND LET ME DO THAT AND SAY X PARTY FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, I HAVE NONE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, I LOST EVERYTHING, I HAVE NONE.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, I HAVE THREE PLUS EMAILS.

NO RECORD OF ANY MEETINGS OR PHONE CALLS. OKAY.

COMMISSIONER TAYLOR AND I HAVE FIVE PLUS EMAILS AND NO RECORD OF ANY MEETINGS EITHER.

ALL RIGHT. I HAVE SIX PLUS EMAILS FOR THIS SPECIFIC ITEM AND A SITE VISIT.

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SO LET'S SEE, LET ME THINK ABOUT IT JUST A MINUTE.

ALL RIGHT. I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE THAT CAME ABOUT THIS THAT I SHOULD DISCLOSE.

SO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

FOR THE RECORD, ELLEN AVERY SMITH, ROGERS TOWERS, 100 WHETSTONE PLACE HERE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE.

AND WITH ME IS MY PARTNER AND PRESENTATION, TONY ROBBINS.

TONY, IF YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL EVERYBODY, FOR THE RECORD, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU AND YOUR HISTORY.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS TONY ROBBINS. I'M A CERTIFIED PLANNER WITH PRIME, A GROUP IN JACKSONVILLE.

I HAVE PRACTICED FOR THE PAST NEARLY 30 YEARS, MOST OF IT.

I'M PROUD TO HAVE WORKED ON SOME OF THE GREAT MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES THAT SAINT JOHNS COUNTY IS PROUD OF.

A MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF CERTIFIED PLANNERS.

I'VE SERVED ON THE DAIS AS THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE'S PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR, AND HAVE BEEN CALLED FOR EXPERT WITNESS TESTIMONY FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING IN THE PAST.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, MR. CHAIR AGAIN, HERE'S OUR PRESENTATION.

BECAUSE WE ARE PROVING COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW, WE ARE GOING TO GO ON THE RECORD.

THE RECORD OF THESE PROCEEDINGS INCLUDES THIS ENTIRE APPLICATION WHICH WAS SUBMITTED ON ACTUALLY, THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT. WELL, IT WAS ACTUALLY SUBMITTED IN ON AUGUST 4TH.

SO THERE IS AN ERROR IN THAT IN THAT POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, WHICH INCLUDES EXHIBITS ONE THROUGH 12 AND DEPENDENCIES FIVE THROUGH.

THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT POWERPOINT DECK. IT SHOULD BE A FIVE.

WELL, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S TAKE A MOMENT TO GET THAT RIGHT.

YEAH. YEAH.

MR. CHAIR, IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT. YOU GOT IT.

I THINK WE'LL FIND IT. OKAY, HERE WE GO. THANK YOU FOR HUMORING ME, BECAUSE, GOSH, LET ME BACK UP A LITTLE BIT, THEN. OKAY. I KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG.

AGAIN, THIS APPLICATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS ON BEHALF OF AFI ASSOCIATES, INCLUDES THE ENTIRE APPLICATION SUBMITTED ON AUGUST 5TH, 2026, INCLUDING EXHIBITS ONE THROUGH NINE, SUPPLEMENTAL PLANNING AFFIDAVITS FROM MR. ROBBINS FROM FOR EXHIBIT SIX AND EIGHT, SUBMITTED ON AUGUST 25TH, 2026, AND THEN THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

THE COUNTY STAFF REPORT, WHICH IS DATED SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2026, REGARDING THIS APPLICATION.

ALL OF THAT IS COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT IS PUT INTO THE RECORD BY THIS REFERENCE, AND THE DOCUMENTS ARE IN THE PUBLIC RECORD. THE WITNESSES WHO PROVIDED AFFIDAVIT TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE IN THE APPLICATION, AND WHICH ARE MYSELF AND MR. ROBBINS, ARE PRESENT TODAY.

AND MR. METCALFE IS IN THE BACK IF HE WE NEED HIM, AND WE ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

JUST AS A SUMMARY, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING CERTIFICATION OF AN AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE FOR APPROXIMATELY 310 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED WEST OF PICETTI ROAD AND NORTH OF COUNTY ROAD 208. THE APPLICATION REQUESTS 1.08 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS PER GROSS ACRE, AND I'M GOING TO GET INTO THAT DETAIL IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.

THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY AGAIN IS WEST OF PICETTI ROAD AND NORTH OF COUNTY ROAD 208.

AND WE'RE GOING TO WALK THROUGH THE STATUTORY CRITERIA.

ONLY THE ONES THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

SO RELATED TO THE DENSITY OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FROM SECTION 16331624 AYE YOUR STAFF FOR ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, BY THE WAY, IS FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT.

SO AS PROVIDED IN THE EXHIBITS 6.7 DOCUMENTS.

THERE THE OWNER HAS REQUESTED FOR THIS PROPERTY 1.08 UNITS PER GROSS ACRE.

FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT, THE STAFF REVIEW LOOKED AT THE SIX MILE CREEK PUD AND OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT ARE LISTED.

I WILL NOT READ THEM TO YOU. AND THEY ESTABLISHED THAT ACTUALLY THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES HAVE A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

SO THIS APPLICANT COULD BE ASKING FOR FIVE UNITS PER ACRE BASED ON THE LAW.

AGAIN, THEY'RE ONLY REQUESTING 1.08 RESIDENTIAL UNITS PER GROSS ACRE, AND STAFF FINDS THAT THIS PROJECT COMPLIES WITH THIS PARTICULAR SECTION OF THE STATUTE. AGAIN, HERE'S THE STAT.

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IS 1.08 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THE HIGHEST ALLOWABLE DENSITY ON ADJACENT PARCELS IS FIVE UNITS PER ACRE.

AGAIN, GOING TO THE NEXT STATUTORY SECTION. OWNERSHIP BY A SINGLE ENTITY.

SECTION ONE. 63. THREE. ONE. SIX. FOUR. FOUR.

AYE REQUIRES THAT THE PROPERTY BE OWNED OR CONTROLLED BY A SINGLE PERSON OR ENTITY.

SO WE SUBMITTED EVIDENCE THAT THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY AFEE ASSOCIATES AND HAS BEEN OWNED AND CONTROLLED BY AFEE SINCE JUNE 5TH OF 2017. SO STAFF AGREES WITH US THAT THIS. THIS SECTION OF THE STATUTE IS MET.

IT IS COMPLIED WITH. GOING TO THE NEXT BONA FIDE AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES.

SECTION 16331644 B AGAIN HAS TO BE PROVIDING PROOF THAT THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN USED FOR BONA FIDE AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AT MINIMUM.

THAT OUR APPLICATION INCLUDES A LETTER FROM EDDIE KRAMER, WHO IS THE PROPERTY APPRAISER, CONFIRMING THAT THIS PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO AGRICULTURAL CLASSIFICATION UNDER 193461 FLORIDA STATUTES FOR AT LEAST THE FIVE PRECEDING YEARS.

WE'VE SUBMITTED A TIMBER MANAGEMENT PLAN. WE'VE SUBMITTED PROPERTY APPRAISER RECORDS, AND WE HAVE A SWORN AFFIDAVIT FROM MR. METCALF, WHO HAS BEEN LIVING WITH THIS PROPERTY.

I WILL SAY IN A TONGUE IN CHEEK FOR A LONG TIME.

AND SO, AGAIN, THE STAFF REVIEWED THOSE DOCUMENTS AND INDEPENDENT RECORDS AND AGREES THAT THIS APPLICATION MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT OF THE STATUTES.

GOING TO THE PERIMETER PROPERTY. THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION IS RELYING ON THE PROVISION OF THE STATUTE.

164.3164 4C1A WHICH SAYS THE PROPERTY HAS TO BE SURROUNDED ON AT LEAST 75% OF THE PERIMETER BY A PARCEL OR PARCELS THAT HAVE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S THE STATUTORY CRITERIA. AND SO ON. THIS SLIDE, AGAIN, THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSE IS WE MEET THAT STATUTORY CRITERIA.

IN FACT, OUR PLANNING AFFIDAVITS FROM PRIME SAY THAT THAT IT IS AN 86.2% SURROUNDING TONY, IF YOU WANT TO PICK UP AND EXPLAIN BECAUSE SINCE YOU ARE AN EXPERT PLANNER.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ELLEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS, THESE ARE YOUR MAPS FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT THAT I HIGHLIGHT THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION, THAT I'LL COME TO THE POINT ABOUT WHY THE PERIMETERS MATTER.

THE SECOND ONE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SLIDE IS YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

AND AS WE LOOK TO THE NORTH, WE HAVE RURAL SILVICULTURE AND RESIDENTIAL AYE ON THE EAST, RURAL SILVICULTURE TO THE SOUTH, RURAL CIVIC CULTURE AND OPEN. I'M SORRY. THAT'S THE ZONING.

AND THEN ON THE WEST, RURAL CIVIC CULTURE AND THE SAINT JOHN'S DRY OR THE WORLD COMMERCE CENTER AND THE SIX MILE PD MORE SPECIFICALLY.

LIKEWISE, THE ZONING TO THE NORTH IS PD TO THE WEST IS PART OF THE PD TO THE SOUTH.

RS ONE, RS TWO, AND OR AND TO THE EAST OR AS WELL OPEN RURAL.

NEXT SLIDE. IF I WOULD THAT'S JUST TO REITERATE FROM YOUR YOUR MAP STAFF REPORT, THE MAPS THAT WERE THERE AND THE COMPUTATIONS IN THE TABLE, THAT'S FINE. WE CAN SAY ON THAT, ON THE COMPUTATIONS ON THE TABLE THERE, WE TRY TO TAKE A LITTLE MORE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO IT.

BUT YOU SEE THERE ON THE FAR LEFT COMMISSIONERS THE TABLE DENOTING THE DIFFERENT PARAMETERS OF THE FOUR SIDES OF THE PROPERTY.

THE WESTERLY AND THE EASTERLY. WE DETERMINED THERE WERE SOME PORTIONS THAT THERE WAS NOT EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.

REMEMBER, WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THAT ONE CRITERION OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT ON 75%.

AND SO THAT WE, WE TOOK OUT OVER 1000FT OF THAT PERIMETER LINE ON THOSE TWO SIDES AND CAME UP WITH JUST SHY, JUST SHY OF 14,000FT². I'M SORRY, LINEAR FEET.

AND THAT WHEN YOU DIVIDE AMONGST THE ENTIRE PERIMETER, GETS YOU TO THE 86.24.

I RESPECT YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF. MR. KELLY AND HIS EFFORTS TO PREPARE.

THE STAFF REPORT POINTED OUT THAT THEY TOOK AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH IN TAKING OUT SOME PROPERTIES THAT WERE UTILIZED FOR CHURCH PLACES OF WORSHIP.

WHILE THOSE ARE ALLOWED IN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND OTHER OTHER DISTRICTS AS WELL, I RESPECT THAT OPINION AND I'M HAPPY TO TO ACQUIESCE TO THAT AS WELL, LIMITING IT EVEN MORE. AND THEN LIKEWISE WITH ANOTHER PIECE THAT HAD A MORE AGRARIAN OR AGRICULTURAL TYPE USE ON IT.

AGAIN, I RESPECT YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND WANTED TO TAKE THAT OUT AS WELL.

THAT STILL PUTS US ABOVE BOTTOM LINE FOR TODAY TO MEET THAT DEFINITION OF AT LEAST 75%.

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AGAIN, THIS IS THE ANOTHER MAP REGARDING THE PERIMETER OF THE PARCELS.

AGAIN TALKING ABOUT THE 86.2% OF EXISTING PROPERTIES.

AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE LAUDED. WE'VE GONE THROUGH BEFORE THE DEFINITION OF DEVELOPMENT UNDER 3804 WHICH AGAIN, THE TERM OF DEVELOPMENT, THE DEFINITION OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE FLORIDA STATUTES, TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT DEVELOPMENT CAN BE DEFINED AS AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS OR STRUCTURES ON THE LAND. AND ALSO, AGAIN, WE TALKED WE HAVE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT PLATTING.

PLATTING IS PART OF DEVELOPMENT, MEANING MAKING A MATERIAL CHANGE IN THE USE OR APPEARANCE OF ANY STRUCTURE OR LAND OR THE DIVIDING OF LAND INTO THREE OR MORE PARCELS. AND SO GOING TO I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE MAP FOR JUST A MINUTE.

OOPS. SORRY. JUST SHOWING THE FACT THAT EVEN IN THE STAFF REPORT, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE ALLOTTED PARCELS.

THESE ARE ALL PLATTED. OR THEY EXIST AS DEVELOPMENT.

AGAIN, GOING TO THE 86.2 OR YOUR STAFF SAYING 78 POINT.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD FOR SIX FROM THE OTHER.

THANK YOU. BUT AGAIN, MEETING THAT 75% CRITERIA, MINIMUM FROM THE STATUTE FOR DEVELOPMENT GOING TO THE NEXT REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC SERVICES. SECTION 16331644 D.

AGAIN THIS GOES TO PAYING FOR CONSTRUCTING OR CONTRIBUTING LAND FOR PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF TRANSPORTATION AND RECREATION IMPROVEMENTS, SCHOOL IMPROVEMENTS AND WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS.

AND AGAIN, THIS APPLICATION INCLUDES A BINDING LETTER FROM THIS PROPERTY OWNER OFFERING TO ENTER INTO A BINDING AGREEMENT TO PAY FOR, CONSTRUCT OR CONTRIBUTE LAND FOR ITS PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THAT'S IN THE APPLICATION PACKAGE. IT'S PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD.

YOUR STAFF HAS REVIEWED IT AND SAYS, AGAIN, THIS APPLICATION HAS MET THIS REQUIREMENT OF THE STATUTE.

WE'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT COMPLIANCE GOING TO THE URBAN POPULATION, WHICH IS THE NEXT STATUTORY CRITERIA THAT'S APPLICABLE TO THIS PROPERTY.

16331644 E TALKS ABOUT THE APPLICATION. THE PROPERTY CANNOT EXCEED 1280 ACRES FOR THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. ON THIS PARTICULAR SUBSECTION, THE STAFF REVIEWED TALKS ABOUT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DOES NOT EXCEED THAT 1280 ACRES. AND SO IT DOES DEMONSTRATE COMPLIANCE WITH THIS STATUTORY REQUIREMENT.

AND THEN, TONY, AND LIKEWISE WITH THE COUNTY POPULATION, THAT CRITERION.

WE UTILIZE A CREDIBLE SOURCE WITH THE USE OF THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEVELOPMENT RESEARCH ARM.

YOU'VE HEARD. I THINK WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE ABLE TO QUOTE THE POPULATION OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY BEFORE THIS WEEK IS OUT, BUT THAT BEING 348,336 PERSONS AS OF APRIL 1ST OF 25, THAT IS FAR, FAR LESS THAN THE 1.75 MILLION. AND SO WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED COMPLIANCE WITH THAT CRITERION F FOXTROT OUT OF THE SUBSECTION OF THAT PORTION OF THE STATUTE.

THANK YOU. OKAY. AND SO JUST TO AGAIN, THERE'S STAFF REPORT OVERALL SAYS WE'VE MET EVERY APPLICABLE REQUIREMENT OF THE STATUTE AND CONCLUDES THAT THE APPLICATION APPEARS TO SATISFY THE STATUTORY DEFINITION OF AN AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE CONTAINED IN SECTION 1633164, SUBPARAGRAPH FOUR, AND CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS UNDER 16331624 AYE.

CONTINUING ON, JUST A SUMMARY. AGAIN, THE APPLICATION MEETS ALL OF THE APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATUTES.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING 1.08 UNITS PER GROSS ACRE, NOT THE FIVE UNITS THAT STAFF HAS CONCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

THAT COULD HAVE BEEN REQUESTED, AND I CAN'T SAY THIS ENOUGH.

THIS STATUTE IS ONLY RELATED TO LAND USE. IT DOES NOT PREEMPT LOCAL, STATE OR FEDERAL LAWS WITH RESPECT TO THE ENVIRONMENT, WITH RESPECT TO CONCURRENCY. SO THIS OWNER IS STILL GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, PROCESS DEVELOPMENT PLANS WITH THE COUNTY, AGREEMENTS WITH THE COUNTY, WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, WITH THE APPLICABLE. I DON'T THINK G. AYE IS ACTUALLY APPLICABLE.

SO THAT'S AN ERROR ON MY PART. IT'S SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY UTILITIES.

THE RIGHT OF WAY CONSTRUCTION PERMITS WITH SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION PLANS WITH THE COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITS WITH THE SAINT JOHN'S RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, AND THE CORPS UTILITY PERMITS WITH THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY AND THE DEP.

AND SO AGAIN, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSION CERTIFY THIS APPLICATION, WHICH IS INSERT 2020 608 BASED ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION,

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OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD FOR NOW? I DO, YES, MA'AM.

GO AHEAD. YES, I HAVE A IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE SUMMARY PAGE AND THEN IF MIKE ROBERSON COULD COME UP.

I JUST SAW THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD. I THOUGHT YOU WERE NEIL SITTING BACK THERE. I'M SORRY. I WAS LOOKING FOR NEIL.

NUMBER TWO ON HERE AS FAR AS THE 1.008 VERSUS THE FIVE UNITS.

HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT'S IN STONE AND NOT JUST A SUGGESTION? FOR THE RECORD, MIKE ROBERTSON, DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT THROUGH THE CHAIR COMMISSIONER, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER.

WHEN STAFF'S LOOKING AT THESE THINGS, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A STATUTE. JUST AS I SPOKE ON BEHALF OF THE LAST ONE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S THE APPLICANT'S WORD AND THEY MAY STICK TO THAT.

BUT FROM WHAT WE CAN APPLY, WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE FIVE UNITS PER ACRE.

THAT WOULD BE NET THAT WOULD BE WHAT'S NOT WETLANDS.

RIGHT. SO UPLANDS THAT'S WHAT WE CAN CONFIRM.

OKAY. SO THERE'S NO WAY TO DO THAT. THANK YOU.

NOT THAT I KNOW OF. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? LET ME ASK LET ME ASK YOU THAT QUESTION, KELLY, INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF HIM.

SO THROUGH THE CHAIR, WHAT THEY'RE THEY'RE CERTIFYING WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. AND SO IF THAT'S THE PROPOSAL, THEN THAT'S WHAT'S BEING CERTIFIED. OKAY. SO THE ANSWER IS JUST LIKE YEARS AGO WHEN. GRAND LAKES PROMISED TO PAY FOR STEROIDS.

16 IT WAS DONE RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY ON TAPE.

SO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING NOW IS IN STONE. IT'S IN STONE.

THAT IS CORRECT. THAT'S THE PROPOSAL. YEAH. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YEAH, SURE. SO I NOTICED THAT WHEN SHE PUT THE QUOTE UP THERE, THE STAFF APPEARS TO SAY THE WORD APPEARS.

I JUST JUMPED OUT AT ME. SURE. SO IN OUR REPORT, WE ADDRESS EACH OF THE CRITERIA.

AND IN THERE WE SAY THEY MEET THOSE CRITERIA.

AND MAYBE, MAYBE ONE OF THE STAFF REPORTS HAS APPEARED AT THE END THOUGH OF THE STAFF REPORT THAT GOES TO THE BOARD.

WE SAY IT APPEARS TO ME BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE FINAL SAY.

AND THAT LEAVES IT. THAT'S WHAT WE FOUND. BUT WE DON'T DICTATE THAT.

ULTIMATELY, YOU'LL SEE THAT BECAUSE YOU MIGHT RECEIVE MORE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. SO THE PURPOSE IS TO SAY WE LOOKED AT IT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE.

IT DOES, BUT IT APPEARS TO BECAUSE THERE MAY BE MORE COMING.

THANK YOU. AND, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. I JUST HAD A SIDEBAR WITH MY CLIENT AND THEY WILL AGREE TO ON THE RECORD TODAY TO 1.08 UNITS PER GROSS ACRE FOR THE PROPERTY. THANKS.

THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY. THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

COME ON UP. TOM. GEORGE. FIVE. FIVE. EIGHT DEERFIELD ROAD.

ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITS. I TALKED TO THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY HAVE NO PERMITS PULLED YET.

NOW, ON THE UTILITY PERMITS, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GET THEIR WATER FROM? JACKSONVILLE. THAT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN TAKING IT FROM HERE BECAUSE THE WATER COMES FROM THE NORTH.

SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? ANYBODY? EVERYBODY. IT'S STILL A WATER ISSUE NO MATTER WHAT.

AND THAT I DIDN'T FINISH COMPLETING WAS SJ 14, SJ 29 OF THE DOM AND THE DMMADUV9, WHICH IS IN JACKSONVILLE. THESE ARE PARCELS OF LAND ON THE DAVIS'S PROPERTY. THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAVE PERMANENT RIGHT OF WAY EASEMENT FROM THE TIDE LINE BACK FAR ENOUGH TO HAVE TRUCKS HAUL ALL THE THE SEDIMENTS AND ALL THE SAND AND EVERYTHING OUT DUVAL COUNTY TO THE BRIDGE AND PALM VALLEY. THANK YOU. THAT UP THERE DOES NOT LOOK RIGHT.

AND IT ISN'T RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

HI. KERRY GUSTAFSON. MY ADDRESS IS ON FILE. I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO DENY THIS AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE,

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I THINK THEY'RE ALSO RELYING ON SOME FAULTY LANGUAGE ABOUT WHAT IS PLATTED VERSUS WHAT IS ACTUALLY ALREADY EXISTING.

BUT IN ADDITION, THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED, I THINK AROUND 86.

BUT ON 825 THEY GAVE MORE INFORMATION. CAN I ASK WHY WE'RE NOT JUST DENYING A INCOMPLETE APPLICATION? WHY ARE WE ASKING FOR MORE INFORMATION EVERY TIME? ELLEN AVERY SMITH COMES UP HERE. SHE'S SHE'S VERY DEFINITE IN YOU ALL FOLLOWING THE LETTER OF THE LAW.

YOU KNOW, IF I CAME HERE AND I WANTED TO PUT ANOTHER FLOOR ON MY HOUSE.

I'M SURE YOU WOULDN'T JUST KEEP WAITING FOR ME TO GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION.

AND, YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU CLOSED IT OUT. I NOW SEE WITH THE TWO THAT YOU DID YESTERDAY, THERE'S LIKE A FEE THEY HAVE TO GIVE.

I HOPE WE WAIT TILL WE GET THE FEE TILL THEY START.

ELLEN AVERY SMITH PUT THINGS ON FILE ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.

WHY DIDN'T WE DENY THE NORTH PALM VALLEY BASED ON IT BEING INCOMPLETE? THIS ONE TOO. IT WAS INCOMPLETE. 825 A LETTER COULD HAVE WENT OUT, KEPT THAT MONEY THEY GAVE YOU FOR THE FEE AND STARTED AGAIN.

BUT THE MOST THING I THINK I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IS JUST NOT MOVE FORWARD AS WE GET CLARIFICATION FROM GREATER LEGAL MINDS THAN ALL OF OURS ON HOW THESE THIS LAW IS SUPPOSED TO BE INTERPRETED.

WE HAVE SPOKEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT SIGNED THIS LAW.

THEY NEVER IMAGINED THERE WOULD BE 15 APPLICATIONS IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

THEY THOUGHT 5 TO 10 IN THE ENTIRE STATE. SOMETHING'S BEING USED AGAINST US HERE.

AND MAYBE WE COULD TAKE A STEP BACK AND JUST GET SOME CLARIFICATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MARSH. MARSH LANDING. OH, YEAH.

GOOD AFTERNOON. SORRY ABOUT THAT. YEAH, I JUST HAVE TO CONSIDER THE OTHER WOMAN THAT CAME UP THAT WAS FROM THIS SIMILAR AREA, AND SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF WATER MANAGEMENT ISSUES.

AND IT'S JUST, THIS SEEMS LIKE A REALLY THIS SITUATION, THESE ENCLAVES SEEMS LIKE A VERY BACKWARDS PROCESS BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I BROUGHT UP THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS BUILT RIGHT OUTSIDE OF OUR GATE AND IT CAUSED A LOT OF ISSUES FOR US, THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY.

WHAT IS GOING TO BE PUT THERE, HOW MUCH DIRT IS GOING TO BE BROUGHT IN? I MEAN, IS IT TEN FEET? IS IT 11FT? HOW IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND THEM? HOW WILL IT AFFECT THE TRAFFIC? HOW WILL IT AFFECT THE SCHOOLS? IT JUST JUST ALL SEEMS TO BE TRICKLING DOWN TO ALSO A, YOU KNOW, A BURDEN ON THE TAXPAYER.

AND SO I WOULD JUST THINK WE NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE THINGS AND GET MORE INFORMATION ON THE FRONT END AND LET US ALL BE FOUGHT IN A COURT OF LAW SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

I JUST IT JUST SEEMS VERY VAGUE TO ME. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. I AGREE. GOOD AFTERNOON. EDITOR@SLATE.COM.

BOX 3084. CANDIDATE FOR ANASTASIA. MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT OF SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY.

SEAT TWO. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF Y'ALL FOR YOUR VOTE AND YOUR DELIBERATION TODAY.

THERE IS A MAGNIFICENT PULITZER PRIZE WINNING PLAY, ANGELS IN AMERICA, AND ABOUT THREE PAGES, SIX HOUR PLAY, SIX HOUR PLAY, SIX HOUR MOVIE, AND ABOUT THREE, 3 OR 4 PAGES FROM THE END OF THE SCRIPT.

IT SAYS IT IS ONLY THROUGH POLITICS THAT MIRACLES OCCUR.

AND WHEN I WAS ASKED IN THE LOBBY TO EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED HERE BY A RADIO REPORTER, THAT'S THE LINE THAT I QUOTED.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MURPHY, WE WERE PRAYING ON YOU. WE WERE PRAYING ON ALL Y'ALL. WE KNEW THAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. PLEASE DENY THIS ONE ALSO, AND I AGREE WITH WHAT THE THREE SPEAKERS BEFORE ME HAD TO SAY.

MISS GUSTAFSON AND THE WELL DRILLER AND THE OTHER LADY.

PLEASE VOTE NO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

LADIES. GOOD AFTERNOON. HELLO AGAIN. COMMISSIONERS.

I JUST WANTED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AGAIN AFTER HEARING THE ATTORNEY FOR THIS PROJECT SPEAK.

MY NAME IS ANDREA MIDDLEBROOK. HANG ON. HAVE YOU ALREADY SPOKEN ON THIS MATTER? I DID, BUT CAN I SPEAK AGAIN? BECAUSE THE ATTORNEY PRESENTED THE PROJECT AND IT BROUGHT UP SOME MORE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM ME.

NO, SORRY, I CAN'T. OKAY. NOPE. SORRY. I DIDN'T HAVE THE CHANCE TO REVIEW THEIR PRESENTATION

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COME ON. OKAY. THANK YOU. WHERE DO I PUT MY PHONE? SO THAT PEOPLE CAN. RIGHT ON THAT X RIGHT THERE.

OKAY. THERE YOU GO. MY NAME IS ANDREA MIDDLEBROOK AND I LIVE AT TWO FIVE, 61CH ARNOLD ROAD.

WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT DENSITY BEING PROPOSED OF FIVE UNITS PER GROSS ACRE.

DUE TO ADJACENT LAND HAVING THAT DENSITY, I LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE, WHICH I OFTEN GO TO VIEW, AND I DON'T ACTUALLY SEE ANYTHING ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY THAT HAS THAT LEVEL OF DENSITY CURRENTLY.

RIGHT HERE AS PART OF THAT TRAIL MARK CTD. BUT IT'S LIKE A COMMON AREA.

I THINK IT'S JUST MAYBE LIKE AN ENVIRONMENTAL BUFFER. SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT DENSITY TOUCHING IT.

WE ALSO THIS HERE IS OWNED BY NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST.

SO IT'S SORRY, COMING UP AS CONSERVATION PROPERTY AS WELL.

SO I'M JUST IF I'M HAVING TROUBLE AS A RESIDENT WHO'S LOOKED AT THIS TOOK THE TIME TO COME TALK TO YOU TODAY AND WRITE AN EMAIL ABOUT IT.

I'M WONDERING IF YOU UNDERSTAND IT, IF YOUR STAFF UNDERSTANDS IT AND IF YOU DON'T.

TOTALLY. I WOULD SAY PLEASE DENY TODAY. GET MORE INFORMATION.

ONCE AGAIN, THE BURDEN IS ON THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE YOU A GREAT APPLICATION.

IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO ACTUALLY NEGOTIATE WITH YOU RIGHT NOW ABOUT THE DENSITY OF THE PROPERTY.

NEGOTIATE AND GET IT ON THE PUBLIC RECORD. WHAT'S TO SAY DENY TODAY AND TAKE SOME MORE TIME TO LOOK AT IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AGAIN.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COME ON UP.

THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON, ELISE BRODERICK.

I LIVE OFF WEST KING IN DOWNTOWN SAINT AUGUSTINE.

FIRST OFF, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PREVIOUS VOTE.

THAT MEANT A LOT TO ALL THE FLORIDIANS IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY WHEN IT COMES TO THESE AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVES.

IT'S A NEW LAW. I KNOW IT'S THROWING YOU GUYS FOR A LOOP.

SPECIFICALLY LAND THAT'S GOING TO BE TOUCHING SIX MILE CREEK.

THAT IS A VERY SENSITIVE AREA. I ACTUALLY WORK ON THAT AREA DOING AIRBOAT TOURS, SO I RUN SIX MILE CREEK EVERY SINGLE DAY AT WORK AND I SEE HOW SENSITIVE IT IS.

OVER BY THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, THAT WHOLE AREA OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY HAS BEEN SO OVERDEVELOPED.

I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF THESE AGRICULTURE ENCLAVES COMING IN.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PROPOSALS. I KNOW IT MIGHT BE HARD TO DENY EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

I KNOW YOU HAVE LAWSUITS TO DEAL WITH, AND IT CAN BE STRENUOUS ON LIKE YOUR RESOURCES AND THE FINANCES YOU HAVE SET ASIDE TO DEAL WITH THESE THINGS.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THESE PROPOSALS, ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE A LONG WATER TRIBUTARY, I THINK, SHOULD BE THE MAIN CONCERN. AND WHERE YOU REALLY PUT YOUR FOCUS IS BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE THE MOST DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON OUR ENVIRONMENT.

SO ANY PROPOSAL THAT'S GOING TO BE TOUCHING SIX MILE CREEK, SAINT JOHNS RIVER, THE ICW, ANYTHING IN THOSE AREAS I THINK SHOULD TAKE TOP PRIORITY.

AND YEAH, I JUST THINK WE'RE AT A BREAKING POINT AND I KNOW THIS LAW, IT'S IT'S A NEW THING.

I REALLY, REALLY COMMEND CLAY MURPHY FOR DECIDING TO GO ALONG WITH THAT INJUNCTION.

AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT HOPEFULLY OTHER COUNTIES FOLLOW SUIT AND THAT WE CAN CHANGE THIS LAW AND YOU GUYS WILL HAVE MORE POWER AND MORE CLARITY TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT AND PROTECT OUR LAND RESOURCES.

SO I JUST REALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DID TODAY.

AND WE ALL REALLY APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR? OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY, BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS FOR US? MR. CHAIR, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR THEN A COUPLE OF MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.

I WILL NOT BE LONG. I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE ERROR ON THE SLIDE.

THIS IS IN THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY UTILITY SERVICE AREA.

THAT IS IN THE APPLICATION. THE SLIDE WAS JUST WRONG.

GOING BACK TO THE COMMENT ABOUT THE APPLICATION, IF YOU LOOK ON THE APPLICATION WAS NOT COMPLETE INCOMPLETE, IT WAS COMPLETE. IF YOU LOOK ON YOUR STARTING ON EXHIBIT SIX, THERE ARE DUPLICATE PLANNING AFFIDAVITS BECAUSE WE HAD MR. FULLERTON, WHO WAS THE ORIGINAL PLANNER FROM PRIME, WORKING ON THIS.

WE DISCOVERED HE WAS GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN.

SO THERE IS ALMOST VERBATIM IDENTICAL AFFIDAVIT EXCEPT FOR MR.

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SO IT WAS NOT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. IT WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAD AN AFFIDAVIT FROM AN EXPERT THAT WAS GOING TO BE HERE IN PERSON TO BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION. THE DOCUMENT CONTENT IS EXACTLY THE SAME ON THE POINT OF DENSITY AND ALL THE PLANNING EXPERTISE. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT IN THE RECORD.

ALSO, WITH RESPECT TO THE LADIES COMMENTS ABOUT DENSITY, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT NOT ONLY OUR EXPERT PLANNER, BUT THE COUNTY'S EXPERT PLANNERS LOOKED AT THESE MAPS.

THESE MAPS ARE FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT, AND THEY SHOW THE BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY.

AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE WHERE THERE WHERE THERE ARE MOBILE HOMES, MULTI-FAMILIES, PUDS AND SINGLE FAMILY AREAS.

YOU ALSO SEE ON THE MAP ON THE RIGHT THE SAINT JOHN'S DRI, WHICH IS TRAIL MARK OR THE SIX MILE CREEK PUD, WHICH TOUCHES THIS PROPERTY, THAT THE TEST IS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS. AND OF COURSE, GOING BACK TO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE EVIDENCE THAT'S IN THE RECORD FROM OUR PROFESSIONAL PLANNER, WHICH IS 86.2% SURROUNDED. YOUR PROFESSIONAL PLANNER, AGAIN, THIS IS FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT.

THEY CONCLUDED 78.6 BECAUSE THEY DEDUCTED THE HOUSES OF PUBLIC WORSHIP.

YOU CAN READ THIS ON THE SLIDE AND THEN ALSO ESSENTIALLY A BARN.

AND SO THAT WAS THEIR JUSTIFICATION. BUT AGAIN, YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF REVIEWED THIS, HAD AN INDEPENDENT THOUGHT ON THE PLANNING SIDE, AN INDEPENDENT OPINION ON THE PLANNING SIDE, THEY STATE THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT AND EVEN THROUGH THAT INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS AND THAT REDUCED PERCENTAGE TO 78.6, THEY CONCLUDE THIS APPLICATION DEMONSTRATES COMPLIANCE WITH THIS PROVISION.

SORRY, I'M FUMBLING OF THE STATUTES. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL BE QUIET AND SEE IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. NO QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. MOTION TO APPROVE AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE CERTIFICATION APPLICATION INSERT 2026-08.

UPON FINDING THAT BASED UPON THE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE CONTAINED IN THE RECORD, THE APPLICATION DEMONSTRATES THAT THE SUBJECT PARCELS SATISFY THE STATUTORY DEFINITION OF AN AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE CONTAINED IN SECTION 163.31644 FLORIDA STATUTES AND THE CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 163.3162 FOR A FLORIDA STATUTES. OKAY, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? LET'S VOTE. AND THAT PASSES THREE TWO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. LET'S TRY TO GET INTO NUMBER FIVE BEFORE WE BREAK.

[5. Northeast Florida Regional Council First Responder Training. During Fiscal Year 2025-2026, the Northeast Florida Regional Council (NEFRC) conducted several hazardous materials and emergency response training initiatives in St. Johns County and provided regional training opportunities that were available to St. Johns County responders. Training opportunities included: • Attendance at the Florida Hazardous Materials Symposium • 160-Hour Hazardous Materials Technician Course • Chlorine Response Training • Hazardous Materials Safety Officer Course • Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) Part 107 Training for First Responders This presentation will provide an overview of these training activities, participation by St. Johns County responders, and the value these programs bring to local emergency preparedness and response capabilities.]

GOOD MORNING. THROUGH THE CHAIR TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. MY NAME IS TYLER NOLAN. SPECIAL PROJECTS PLANNER WITH THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL COUNCIL, 40 EAST ADAMS STREET, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL THIS MORNING.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I GOT TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO YOU ALL.

AFTER SERVING AS THE LIAISON FROM THE REGIONAL COUNCIL TO SAINT JOHNS COUNTY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD WHEN I GET TO COME BACK AND PRESENT TO YOU ALL CONTACT INFORMATION, EVEN THOUGH THAT MOST OF YOU HAD IT, AS I'VE KNOWN YOU ALL FOR A FEW YEARS NOW. BUT JUST A QUICK LITTLE RECAP ON THE REGIONAL COUNCIL.

WE REPRESENT SEVEN COUNTIES IN 25 MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS NORTHEAST FLORIDA RANGING A WIDE GROUP OF TOPICS THAT YOU ALL KNOW IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT WE ALL SHARE. BUT TODAY, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PORTION OF WHAT WE DO, MORE SPECIFICALLY, OUR HAZARDOUS MATERIAL TRAINING FOR FIRST RESPONDERS.

RIGHT NOW, OUR CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS OUR COMMISSIONERS AND MISS TAYLOR COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST AND MISS VIRGINIA MORGAN FROM SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH.

BUT AS I GO AROUND THE COUNTIES, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN BEFORE YOU, WHERE ALL FIVE OF YOU, AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER, HAVE BEEN A BOARD MEMBER OF MINE AT THE REGIONAL COUNCIL.

SO IT'S REALLY EXCITING. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE DO AT THE REGIONAL COUNCIL.

ONE THING TO NOTE AS WE LOOK AT OUR TWO YEAR RETURN ON INVESTMENT WITH US AS AN AGENCY SPANNING BOTH FEDERAL AND LOCAL STATE FISCAL YEARS, WE DO A TWO YEAR RETURN ON INVESTMENT JUST SO THAT WAY WE CAN ENCOMPASS BOTH OF THOSE.

BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO REPORT THAT OVER RUNNING THOSE NUMBERS FOR THIS YEAR.

THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR SAINT JOHNS COUNTY ALONE WAS A 10 TO 1 RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

SO REALLY, REALLY COOL TO SEE, AND ESPECIALLY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP THAT NUMBER IN THE DOUBLE DIGITS,

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BUT AS I MENTIONED, I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT THE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL TRAINING THAT WE GET TO DO FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS HERE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

OVER THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE HAD 61 INDIVIDUALS OF YOUR FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT PARTICIPATE IN A TRAINING OF SOME SORT.

NOW, IT COULD BE SOME FOLKS PARTICIPATING IN DIFFERENT CLASSES OR THE SAME PERSONNEL PARTICIPATING IN DIFFERENT CLASSES.

BUT THESE ARE VERY, VERY TECHNICAL, VERY EXPENSIVE CLASSES REALLY WHEN THEY KIND OF BOIL DOWN TO IT AND ALSO A LOT OF TIME CONSTRAINTS.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE GET TO DO EVERY YEAR IS SEND A GROUP OF YOUR FOLKS TO THE FLORIDA HAZARDOUS MATERIALS SYMPOSIUM, WHICH IS CURRENTLY BEING HELD IN DAYTONA ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

IT'S REALLY THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK. WE LET YOUR PERSONNEL GO DOWN FOR THE WEEK AND TAKE THE CLASSES THAT BEST SUIT THEM, SO THE PERSONNEL ACTUALLY GET TO PICK THE COURSES THAT THEY WANT TO ATTEND IN A HAZARDOUS MATERIAL INCIDENT.

AND JUST LIKE ON ANY LARGE SCALE EVENT, WE RUN AN INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM.

AND WITH THAT HAZARDOUS MATERIAL RESPONSE IS NO DIFFERENT.

THERE'S A SAFETY OFFICER APPOINTED. SO TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT CLASS, LET FOLKS UNDERSTAND KIND OF THOSE OUT OF THE BOX THINKINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING PERSONNEL SAFE. YOU'RE 160. OUR HAZMAT TECHNICIAN COURSE IS THE STATE REQUIRED COURSE THAT FOLKS HAVE TO HAVE TO BE A HAZMAT TECHNICIAN.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO HOST THAT IN COORDINATION WITH THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT.

SOME NEW THINGS IN THE STATE THAT HAVE REALLY TAKEN OFF OVER THESE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS A MARITIME RESPONSE.

IT'S A BIG INITIATIVE OF THE FLORIDA DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

AND WITH THAT, AND US HAVING AS MUCH WATER AS WE DO, NOT ONLY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, BUT HERE IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA, WE'VE KIND OF GOT TO CHAMPION THAT ON THE STATE'S BEHALF AND SEND A NUMBER OF PERSONNEL TO THIS CLASS, WHICH IS RESPONDING TO A HAZARDOUS MATERIAL INCIDENT IF IT HAPPENS ON A VESSEL.

TALK ABOUT A VERY NERVE WRACKING DAY AND A LOT THAT HAS TO GO RIGHT FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

SO GETTING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO DO A CHLORINE RESPONSE COURSE.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW, CHLORINE IS USED HEAVILY IN WATER TREATMENT.

AND WITH THE SIZE AND QUALIFICATIONS OF YOUR DEPARTMENT.

YOU ALSO PROVIDE A LOT OF MUTUAL AID TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS AROUND THIS AREA.

SO GIVING YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THOSE CLASSES AS WELL.

EVEN THOUGH Y'ALL ACTUALLY DON'T USE CHLORINE FOR YOUR WATER TREATMENT HERE. SO GIVING YOU YOUR FIRST RESPONDERS THOSE TRAININGS BECAUSE YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE ROADWAYS, WHICH THAT STUFF DOES COME THROUGH. YOU HAVE RAIL, ROAD, RAIL LINES THAT IT COMES THROUGH.

AND THEN YOU ALSO PROVIDE MUTUAL AID. ONE OF THE REALLY COOL THINGS THAT WE GOT TO DO, AND THE REASON IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IS MARITIME COMMAND AND CONTROL CLASS.

DEPUTY CHIEF PICETTI FROM SAINT AUGUSTINE HAS BEEN WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE COAST GUARD, AND THEY WANTED TO BRING THIS CLASS IN. AND WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THEM JUST BECAUSE THEY NEEDED A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

SO OUT OF THE BLUE, I GOT A PHONE CALL ASKING FOR SOME OF THE, SOME ASSISTANCE WITH THAT.

AND THROUGH OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS, WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF CUT A CHECK TO KIND OF HELP THEM BRING THAT CLASS IN.

SO THESE ARE THE CLASSES THAT WE BROUGHT IN THIS YEAR.

I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION LIEUTENANT MARK GRABER, LIEUTENANT JOE DURDEN, AND PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER CHRIS NAF WITH SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY FIRE RESCUE. I LIKE TO SURROUND MYSELF WITH VERY SMART PEOPLE.

AND THOSE ARE THE THREE GUYS FROM YOUR PERSONNEL THAT ARE WITH ME ALONG THE WAY.

THEY'RE MY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS FOR SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY.

AND, AND PROVIDE A VALUABLE, VALUABLE RESOURCE TO NOT ONLY SAINT JOHN'S, BUT THE REGION AS A WHOLE.

I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU SOME PHOTOS OF SOME OF THE THINGS OF HOW WE PUT FOLKS INTO THE ENVIRONMENT.

THIS IS THE CHLORINE CLASS. WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE LEFT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE RIGHT.

SO IT'S THEATRICAL SMOKE. BUT IF YOU'RE EVER AROUND CHLORINE GAS, IT'S A BIG YELLOW CLOUD.

GASEOUS CHLORINE. SO YOU'RE SEEING WHAT THE FOLKS ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON INSIDE OF A SIMULATED ENVIRONMENT TO MAKE IT AS REALISTIC AS POSSIBLE.

THE CROSS COORDINATION AND THE COLLABORATION THAT WE HAVE IN THAT ONE PHOTO RIGHT THERE ON THE LEFT.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOLKS WORKING ON A KIT WITH A HANDS ON ENVIRONMENT.

BUT IN THAT SINGULAR PHOTO ALONE, YOU HAVE CLAY COUNTY FIRE RESCUE, SAINT JOHN'S FIRE RESCUE, JACKSONVILLE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT, AND PRIVATE CONTRACTORS ALL WORKING TOGETHER TO LEARN THIS EQUIPMENT, LEARN THESE RESPONSE TACTICS, AND COLLABORATE TOGETHER SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT THAT GETS CREATED AND THEN CLASSROOM PORTION OF IT JUST AS MUCH AS THE IN HANDS AND ON HANDS PIECE OF IT. LET'S SEE, THIS IS THE MARITIME STUFF ACTUALLY CLIMBING JACOB'S LADDERS AND GETTING IN HARNESSES AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT'S LIKE WEARING FIREFIGHTER GEAR IN A POOL.

SO THAT WAY THEY UNDERSTAND IF THEY WERE TO FALL FROM THE VESSEL, UNDERSTANDING HOW THEIR EQUIPMENT REACTS IN WATER.

SO IT REALLY GOES TO SHOW YOU THE TYPE OF TRAINING THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE HANDS ON AND UNIQUENESS OF IT.

I WAS GOING TO TOLD YOU I WAS GOING TO BE QUICK, BUT IT'S REALLY NICE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW YOU THE FUN THINGS THAT WE GET TO DO,

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AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE PERSONNEL THAT YOU HAVE HERE AT YOUR DEPARTMENTS THAT WE'RE AS SUCCESSFUL AS WE HAVE BEEN.

SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH TYLER, NICE TO SEE YOU.

YES, MA'AM. YOU LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME. DO YOU EVER AGE? HEY. SO I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS WORKING WITH YOU GUYS, THEY HAD THOSE SEALS THAT WERE METALLIC.

WHATEVER HAPPENED WITH THOSE WHERE YOU JUST SLAP THEM ON THE LEAK? YEAH, YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS THEM WHAT UNIT THEY ARE CONTAINED OR IF THEY'VE BEEN USED, I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T REALLY FOLLOWED UP ON THAT ONCE I GAVE THEM TO YOUR DEPARTMENT.

SUCH A GREAT IDEA. YOUR YOUR FOLKS KNOW BEST.

SO THEY'RE SOMEWHERE HERE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

GOOD, GOOD. WELL THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. TYLER, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AND BETH PAYNE AND EVERYBODY AT THE REGIONAL COUNCIL FOR ALL YOU DO.

FOR MOST FOLKS WHO DON'T KNOW, WE GET AN 11 TO 1 RETURN ON OUR ON OUR INVESTMENT WITH THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL COUNCIL WITHOUT HAVING TO CARRY THE BURDEN OF INSURANCE OR BENEFITS FOR THE EMPLOYEES. THE REGIONAL COUNCIL DOES A LOT OF STAFF WORK.

AND TYLER, YOU DO A GREAT JOB FOR THE REGIONAL COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE NEED PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS? WE DON'T.

OKAY. WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH BROTHER. GREAT JOB.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN AS ALWAYS. THANK YOU. Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY. GOOD DEAL. THANK YOU. LET'S GO RIGHT TO NUMBER SIX.

[6. Public Hearing * DEVARMOD 2026-01 Durbin Creek National Development Agreement Modification (First Reading). This is the third amendment of the Durbin Creek National Development Agreement that was approved in 2015, and amended in 2016 and 2020. This modification updates the status and costs of the Proposed Roadway Improvements, and revises the plan of development for a portion of the property. The request also includes a land use exchange to convert 745 multi-family units to 330 single-family units with no increase in the project's external traffic. Two public hearings are required to modify a Development Agreement. The second public hearing is scheduled before the BCC on October 6, 2026. The companion Major Modification to the Durbin Park PUD (MAJMOD 2026-09) will be heard concurrently with the second public hearing on the Development Agreement Modification.]

WE DON'T HAVE X PARTY ON THIS, SO YOU ARE FREE TO GO.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. WE'LL MAKE IT BRIEF. THIS IS A FIRST READING OF A REQUESTED THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE DURBAN PARK DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

SINCE IT IS FIRST READING, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS AT THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH WILL BE OCTOBER 6TH.

AND SO I AM JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MIGHT HAVE AT THIS JUNCTURE.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ALL RIGHT.

I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. LET'S SEE. WE NEED TO ANNOUNCE THE DATE OF THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 6TH.

9 A.M. AT THE COUNTY AUDITORIUM HERE. RIGHT. WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED TO DO? THAT WAS QUICK. HEY. GREAT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

GREAT JOB. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO KEEP RIGHT ON ROLLING.

LET'S GO TO NUMBER SEVEN. THAT IS EX PARTE AYE.

[7. Public Hearing * NZVAR 2026-19 Kramer Sculptures Art Gallery. A request for a Non-Zoning Variance to LDC 3.07.05 for parking screening relief and LDC 3.07.06 for buffer relief to the South Anastasia Overlay, specifically located at 6141 AlA South]

OKAY. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. TWO PLUS EMAILS, NO MEETINGS.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. NO RECORD OF ANY EMAILS, MEETINGS OR PHONE CALLS.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. AND THE SAME. NO EMAILS AND NO MEETINGS.

OKAY. I DIDN'T HAVE ANY EMAILS OR MEETINGS, BUT I DID DRIVE BY THERE AND LOOK AT THIS. IS THIS IS THIS FOR KRAMER? YEP. OH. I'M HERE. OKAY. CAN I PRESENT OR HOW DOES IT WORK? YEAH. COME ON UP. WE HAD TO DO WE HAD TO SATISFY SOME LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FIRST BEFORE YOU COULD START, BUT. NO, WE HAVE DONE THAT. AND SO YOU NOW HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR.

THAT'S MY FIRST TIME DOING ANYTHING LIKE THIS. YEAH, BUT DON'T LOOK, WE'RE JUST REGULAR OLD, OKAY, FOLKS. SO. SO RELAX. HAVE FUN. IT'S NO STRESS AT ALL.

IT'S ALL GOOD, BROTHER. SO I'M TRYING TO BUILD MY ART STUDIO.

I'M AN ARTIST. AND WE ARE WE WERE REQUIRED TO PUT IN A DRAINAGE PIPE THAT WAS ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. SO THE PROPERTY IS VERY SMALL AND IN ORDER TO FULFILL ALL THE REQUIREMENTS WITH THE PARKING AND THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND ALL THE DRAINAGE ISSUES. AFTER WE PUT IN THE DRAINAGE PIPE I HAD REQUESTED, I ALREADY HAD A LANDSCAPING PLAN AND THE LANDSCAPING PLAN. I WAS GOING TO GO AHEAD WITH THE, THE PLAN AND THEN I CALLED THE TOWN AND I SAID, HEY, LOOK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT. AND THEY SAID, NO, YOU HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING DIFFERENTLY. AND SO THEN THEY SAID, YOU HAVE TO REDO EVERYTHING. SO I REDID EVERYTHING. BUT THEN I REALIZED I CAN'T PUT IN MY TREES ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING BASED ON THE ANASTASIA OVERLAY COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER OVERLAY REQUIREMENTS. AND WE HAD TO PUT UP A RETENTION WALL BECAUSE THE GRADE WAS TOO GREAT GOING FROM OUR PROPERTY TO OUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY. AND SO I PUT UP THAT RETENTION WALL AND WITH THE DRAINAGE GRAVEL AND THE PIPE AND THE WALL, THERE'S BASICALLY JUST NO GROUND TO BE ABLE TO PUT ANY VEGETATION INTO THE SPACE.

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OKAY. JUST PUT IT RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THAT X RIGHT THERE.

THERE YOU GO. IT'S TECHNOLOGY. IT'S NOT A FLOCK CAMERA, BUT IT'S ALL RIGHT.

SO IT'S OKAY FROM THIS. WHERE IS IT? THIS ONE? THIS IS A MANHOLE. AND THEN THERE'S A PIPE THAT RUNS ALL ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE.

AND THEN THERE'S A MANHOLE RIGHT HERE. AND THE, THE RETENTION WALL IS RIGHT HERE.

AND THEN THERE'S PARKING RIGHT HERE, AND THERE'S THIS THREE FOOT ENCROACHMENT INTO THIS SPACE BECAUSE WE NEED ENOUGH SPACE TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO DO THE TURNS FOR THE PARKING. AND WE WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE FOUR PARKING SPACES.

SO EVERYTHING HAS JUST GOT REALLY, REALLY TIGHT. ANYWAY, SO THEN THAT'S KIND OF IT.

YOU CAN SEE IT THERE FROM NUMBER TWO TO NUMBER THREE.

THE PIPE COMES THROUGH. IT'S A 15 INCH CONCRETE PIPE ON THE OUTSIDE.

IT'S 22IN. WITH THE BELL IT BECOMES 28IN. IT TAKES UP A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF SPACE IN THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN ALSO THE RETENTION WALL CUTS IN AS WELL.

ANOTHER FOOT AND A HALF OR WHATEVER. AND THEN WE HAD TO HAVE THREE FEET UNDERNEATH THAT SO THAT IT BASICALLY WAS AN L.

IF YOU LOOK IT FROM THE SIDE PROFILE, IT'S AN L.

SO I HAVE WRITTEN HERE ALL THE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD I READ ALL THIS? NO. OKAY. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE REQUIRED TO DO AS OUR RETENTION WALL.

I CALLED THE, THE TOWN AND SAID, DO I NEED TO PUT IN A FORMAL DECLARATION TO HAVE THE RETENTION WALL SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING DRAWINGS AND SO FORTH. AND THEY SAID, NO, IF IT'S SMALL ENOUGH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

SO THEN WE INSTALLED IT. THAT'S FROM THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER.

HE BASICALLY DID UP OUR DRAWING FOR US AND THEN WE INSTALLED IT.

THE DISTANCE FROM THE BUILDING IS ABOUT 110IN.

AND THEN THAT'S THAT'S THE WALL BEING CONSTRUCTED.

I USED 57 STONE SO THAT WE'D HAVE GREAT DRAINAGE.

IT NONE OF THE WATER GOES ONTO OUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY NOW, SO IT'S NICE AND WELL PLANNED, WELL DESIGNED. THAT'S THE WALL BEING CONSTRUCTED.

AND THEN JUST TALKING ABOUT THE PARKING SPACE, WE CAN'T REALLY THAT'S, THAT'S THE PARKING AREA.

SO RIGHT HERE IS THE PARKING AND THEN THE WALLS THERE AND THEN THERE.

THIS IS ALL DRAINAGE. THERE'S A PIPE RUNNING ALL ALONG HERE.

BASICALLY, WE CAN'T PLANT. AND THAT'S ALL I'M BASICALLY COMING TO SAY IS THAT WE ASK FOR A SIX TREES ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHERE THE PIPE IS, THAT WE DON'T NEED TO BE PLANTING ANYTHING THERE.

OKAY, SO GREAT PRESENTATION. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, YOU SURE CAN.

I THINK, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE THAT BIG OF A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT ART YOU DO.

OH, A TYPE OF ART. THINGS I DO METAL SCULPTURE.

I CAN SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF THAT, TOO. THAT'D BE COOL.

STICK IT ON THE X THERE. SO. OH, YEAH. ALONGSIDE THIS, I HAVE TO ALSO.

IS THAT YOUR SHIRT? DID YOU DO YOUR SHIRT? NO, BUT I IT LOOKS GOOD, I LIKE IT.

SO THIS IS THIS IS THE ART THAT I DO. I DO VERY LARGE WORK FOR CITIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND SO THEN BUT THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF IT.

OH, COOL. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT'S ALL METAL. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL STAINLESS.

REALLY PRETTY COOL. YEAH, IT'S ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE DO COLORFUL VERSIONS AS WELL, SO.

OKAY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS. I NEED TO JUST MAKE ANOTHER STATEMENT. THE THE OTHER REQUEST I HAD WAS THAT SO WHEN I DID MY FIRST SUBMISSION FOR THE LANDSCAPING PLAN AND WHEN I DID THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW WITH THE CITY, THEY SAID THAT WE NEEDED A FENCE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PARKING AREA TO PREVENT VISUAL INTO THE GARAGE DOOR BECAUSE I HAVE A GARAGE DOOR THERE, BUT NOTHING ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

AND THEN WHEN I, WHEN I STARTED DOING THE SECOND ART LANDSCAPE PLAN, THEY SAID, NOW YOU HAVE TO PUT A FENCE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

AND. AND I HAD DESIGNED EVERYTHING SO THAT I HAVE A FRONT WINDOW, AND THEN I COULD PUT MY SCULPTURES IN THAT FRONT WINDOW TO BE SEEN FROM THE ROAD.

AND SO IT'S LIKE A BEAUTY THING. AND NOW THEY'RE THE TOWN IS REQUESTING THAT.

YOU KNOW, I PUT UP A FENCE AND I'M ASKING, PLEASE DON'T ASK ME TO DO THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO BE ABLE TO CREATE BUSINESS FROM THIS.

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SO. SO THERE'S KIND OF TWO THINGS HERE. ONE IS THE TREES ON THE SOUTH SIDE, AND THE OTHER IS NOT TO HAVE TO PUT UP ANOTHER FENCE.

MIKE ROBERTSON OR STAFF. GOOD AFTERNOON.

IT'S A GOOD THING WE GOT A LONG DAY TODAY BECAUSE WE CAN ROLL RIGHT INTO THE 5:00 BUDGET MEETING TOO, IF WE WANT TO. SORRY. HI.

HI. JACKIE WILLIAMS, OVERLAY PLANNER. ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE FENCE? YEAH. WELL, I'M. I'M. I'M ASKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY.

AND IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ROLL INTO THE SAME THING, OR IS HE GOING TO HAVE TO APPLY TWO DIFFERENT THINGS? NO. SO IT'S A NON ZONING VARIANCE FOR TWO ITEMS. ONE IS FOR BUFFER RELIEF FOR THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.

AND THEN ALSO SCREENING RELIEF BECAUSE IN THE OVERLAY YOU HAVE TO SCREEN THE PARKING OKAY FOR THE ROAD.

GOOD DEAL. WELL THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP FOR ME.

ALL RIGHT. YOU YOU'RE READY TO ROLL? SURE. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE NON ZONING VARIANCE.

2026-19 KRAMER SCULPTURES ART GALLERY BASED ON SEVEN FINDINGS OF FACT AND SUBJECT TO FIVE CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

LET'S VOTE. OKAY, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. WHAT HAPPENS NOW? YOU HAVE BEEN GRANTED THE VARIANCES THAT YOU'VE ASKED FOR.

AND THEN JUST TALK WITH JACKIE AND KEEP GOING.

SHE'LL HOOK YOU UP. SHE'S WAITING ON YOU. OH, PERFECT. THANKS.

YOU GOT IT. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO LUNCH, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE QUITE THERE YET, SO LET'S ROLL RIGHT ON TO EIGHT. THAT IS QUASI JUDICIAL.

[8. District 3 Public Hearing * PLNAPPL 2026-08 Aspinwall Variance. An appeal of the Planning and Zoning Agency (PZA) denial of Zoning Variance 2026-19, a request for relief to Section 6.01.03.C.3 & 2.02.04.B.16.E of the Land Development Code to allow for a second Front Yard setback often (10) feet in lieu of the required twenty-five (25) feet for a Through Lot located in Residential, Single-Family (RS-3) zoning to accommodate an Accessory Family Unit (AFU. The subject property is specifically located at 6665 Broward Street. This request was heard by the Planning and Zoning Agency at their regularly scheduled public hearing on Thursday, June 18, 2026, and was denied by a vote of 5-1 ]

NO. NO EMAILS FROM RESIDENTS OR STAFF MEETING WITH BRUCE LIDDY AND STAFF.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DOES SHE NEED. SHE DOESN'T NEED TO REPEAT THAT, DOES SHE? NO, NO.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. I HAVE NO RECORD OF ANY EMAILS, PHONE CALLS OR MEETINGS.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR.

NOTHING. NOTHING FOR YOU? NO, NO, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE JUST GIVEN.

IS THAT. OH, SORRY. WHAT WERE WE JUST GIVEN? WELL, WE WERE JUST GIVEN SOMETHING.

IS THAT FOR THIS? THIS IS FOR BROWARD STREET.

I THINK THAT FOR. IS THIS FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT THAT THAT WAS HANDED TO ME BY MIKE ROBERSON.

I THINK IT'S JUST BACKUP. BUT IT'S FOR THIS. OKAY.

SO IT IS FOR THIS. SO YES, WE DID RECEIVE EMAILS ON THIS.

YEAH. I DON'T EVEN KNOW. WE DID. YES. SO WE WERE JUST.

YEAH. 6665. YEAH. WE WERE JUST GIVING EMAILS ON THIS, IF I MAY.

THIS CAME THAT CAME IN AT THE LAST MINUTE. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED IT. THAT'S WHY YOU GOT IT THIS MORNING. RIGHT. SO WE JUST RECEIVED IT. I HAVEN'T EVEN READ IT. SO WE JUST WE GOT IT. WE HAVE TO ADD THAT.

YEAH. WE'LL ADD THIS TO OUR, CAN WE ADD THIS EX POST FACTO FROM WHATEVER THE FANCY WORD IS FOR THAT? OKAY. AN EXPERT. WE RECEIVED A FEW EMAILS LATE THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE FOR AND A COUPLE AGAINST.

SO IN MIND ANYTHING ELSE? NOPE. THAT'LL DO IT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE, FEW EMAILS AND NO MEETINGS FOR THIS.

AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR EXPERT. YOU'RE UP.

MY NAME IS BRUCE LIDDY. I LIVE AT 460 TRADEWIND LANE.

I'M HERE CONCERNING A VARIANCE APPEAL. WE WENT BEFORE P AND Z OR DENIED OUR PREVIOUS REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE.

I SHOULD HAVE A POWERPOINT HERE SOMEWHERE. HERE WE GO.

I'M NOT GETTING THAT. THERE IT IS. OKAY, HERE'S.

THIS IS OUR SUMMARY, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE SAME SUMMARY WE HAD FROM OUR PREVIOUS APPEAL WHERE WE ARE.

THANK YOU. WE ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR A TEN FOOT SETBACKS ON THE REAR.

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SO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO BUILD THE A F U AS REQUESTED ON THE SCREEN.

THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST ITEMS I'D LIKE TO PRESENT.

IT IS A LETTER FROM THE DOT. WE HAD TO OBTAIN A PERMIT FROM DOT TO ACCESS THE REAR OF THE LOT, AS THE ENTIRE LOT IS COVERED BY THE ORIGINAL HOUSE THAT WE BUILT ON THAT LOT.

THE CUSTOMER HAD ALWAYS PLANNED ON ADDING A AYE IF YOU OR A WHAT THEY CALLED A POOL HOUSE ON THE REAR OF THE LOT, BUT THEY WERE WAITING TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT TO DECIDE EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED BACK THERE.

SO WE HAD TO GET A PERMIT FROM DOT TO ACCESS THE BACK OF THE LOT.

AND IN DOING SO, WE ALSO LEARNED THAT THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW US ENTRY TO THE REAR OF THE LOT.

ONCE WE PUT OUR APPROVED RETAINING WALL UP. SO IN FOLLOWING THAT'S OUR PERMIT THERE THAT WE'VE GOTTEN AN EXTENSION FOR.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN FOR THE AFU. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES. IT IS THE SAME SITE PLAN WE USED TO GET THE ORIGINAL PRIMARY HOUSE BUILT ON THE LOT.

WE SENT THIS IN WHEN WE WERE GETTING OUR RETAINER WALL APPROVED AND GET A PERMIT FOR IT.

THIS IS THE EXISTING RETAINER WALL THAT WAS BUILT, AND WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION FOR THE RETAINER WALL THAT WAS DONE ON 21726. WE MET WITH ROADS AND BRIDGES AND ERIC CLARK FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WE DID BACK HERE WAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, AND WE HAD TO LIMIT THE HEIGHT OF OUR RETAINER WALL BECAUSE OF THE ADJACENT HOUSE TO THE RIGHT.

ON THE SCREEN THERE YOU CAN SEE THE PARTIAL HOUSE, BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY STIPULATION THAT WAS MADE TO US WHILE WE WERE BUILDING THIS RETAINER WALL. THIS IS JUST THE ZONING MAP WE PROVIDED, AS REQUESTED BY PLANNING AND ZONING.

THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE HOUSE AS BUILT CURRENTLY.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE REAR OF THE LOT IS BASICALLY WOODED.

IT HAD BRAZILIAN PEPPERS AND A FEW OTHER SPECIES ON IT THAT WERE NOT A RETAINABLE HARDWOOD.

SO WE CLEARED THAT AND GOT PERMISSION TO BUILD THE RETAINING WALL.

AT THE POINT THAT WE, WE BUILT THE RETAINING WALL, WE SENT IN OUR APPLICATION FOR THE CLEARANCE SHEET TO BUILD THE A F U. AND WHEN WE DID THAT, WE WERE, WE DIDN'T NAME IT IN A F U.

WE CALLED IT A POOL HOUSE. SO WE WERE AUTOMATICALLY RETURNED OUR APPLICATION AND WERE INSTRUCTED TO USE THE WORDING A F U.

SO WE DID THAT AND WE SENT IT BACK IN, AND THEN IT WAS RETURNED TO US AGAIN.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW WHERE WE HAD A TEN FOOT SETBACK ON OUR SITE PLAN, WE WERE TOLD THERE'S A 25 FOOT SETBACK FOR THE REAR FRONT OF THE LOT. WE QUIT. I QUESTIONED THIS WITH BEVERLY FROM THE ZONING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, HERE IS OUR PERMIT FROM THE ORIGINAL HOUSE AND THE SECOND FRONT.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN. THE SECOND FRONT SETBACK ON THE LOWER LEFT HAND SIDE, HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN SAYS N A.

BUT DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THAT, THE REAR SETBACK SAYS TEN FEET.

ALSO DOWN IN THE BOTTOM LEFT, WHERE IT'S HIGHLIGHTED WITH ANOTHER GREEN LINE, YOU SEE A REAR TEN.

THESE SETBACKS THAT WE WERE GIVEN FOR THIS LOT WHEN WE BUILT THE ORIGINAL HOUSE WAS A 25 FOOT FRONT SETBACK, EIGHT FOOT SIDE SETBACKS AND A TEN FOOT REAR SETBACK.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE OTHER EVIDENCE OF THIS. THIS IS THE CLEARANCE OR THE SITE PLAN THAT WE HAVE THAT WAS APPROVED AND STAMPED BY THE COUNTY. AND IN THE UPPER LEFT, THAT LINE, IT'S HARD TO READ, BUT THAT SAYS THAT THE SETBACKS FOR THE LOT WERE 25 FOOT FRONT, EIGHT FOOT SIDE AND TEN FOOT REAR.

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AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT SAYS SECOND FRONT SETBACK N A REAR SET FOOT SETBACK TEN FEET.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE RETAINER WALL. UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER.

SETBACKS 25FT FRONT EIGHT FOOT SIDE. TEN FOOT REAR.

THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL. LET ME BACK UP HERE. THE LOTS ON BROWARD THAT ARE ALL THE SAME.

THEY ARE CONSIDERED THROUGH LOTS. THEY WERE ALL DETERMINED TO BE INTER FRONT LOTS WITH THE SAME SETBACKS THROUGHOUT.

WE HAVE THE CLEARANCE SHEETS FROM ALL OF THESE LOTS.

THIS IS 6430 I'M SORRY, 6435 BROWARD STREET AS YOU CAN SEE.

SECOND FRONT SETBACK N A REAR TEN. IT ALSO HAS IT DOWN ON THE BOTTOM LEFT LINE HIGHLIGHTED REAR TEN FOOT SETBACK. THAT'S THE SITE PLAN FROM 6435. AGAIN, THE HIGHLIGHTED UPPER LEFT GREEN LINE SETBACKS ARE 25, EIGHT AND TEN. THIS IS FOR 6525. ALSO REAR FRONT SETBACK N A REAR TEN. AND THIS IS 6483.

THE FRONT SETBACK IS 25. SECOND FRONT SETBACK N A AND THE REAR IS TEN.

AND THESE ARE ALL INTER FRONT LOTS. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME EXACT DESCRIPTION AS THE ONE WE ARE CURRENTLY TRYING TO BUILD ON. YET WE'VE NOW BEEN TOLD THAT IT'S A 25 FOOT REAR SETBACK.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE IN THE ORIGINAL REQUEST VARIANCE, THE ATTORNEY TOLD US THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO STRUCTURE BACK THERE, THEY DON'T PUT A SETBACK OF 25FT. IT'S VERY DECEIVING WHEN THE BUILDER GOES TO BUILD A HOUSE, OR THE OWNER GOES TO PUT ANOTHER BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY THAT THE WRITTEN INFORMATION WE HAVE FROM THE COUNTY SAYS TEN FEET. I MEAN, IF THERE'S A 25 FOOT SETBACK ON THE PROPERTY, IT SHOULD BE LABELED AS A 25 FOOT SETBACK NO MATTER WHETHER THERE'S A STRUCTURE THERE OR NOT. WE FEEL THAT IT'S A LEGAL DOCUMENT AND SHOULD BE UPHELD AS A TEN FOOT SETBACK, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE REQUESTING THE VARIANCE.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. YES, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

SO YOU CANNOT ACCESS FROM A1 A, CORRECT? NO, MA'AM.

OKAY. AND THEN TELL ME. I KNOW I MET WITH YOU AND YOU WERE BUILDING SOMETHING FOR A FIREMAN OR WHAT ARE YOU BUILDING BACK THERE? THE THE FAMILY HAS A A GROWN SON WHO LIVES WITH THEM.

HE IS ALSO A FIRST RESPONDER, SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY FIRE RESCUE, AND HE IS OF COURSE IN THE HOUSE WITH THEM.

BUT THEY ARE WANTING TO ALSO ALLOW HIM TO LIVE IN THAT SPACE UNTIL HE.

BASICALLY IS ABLE TO PURCHASE OR BUILD HIS OWN HOME.

SO IS HE GOING TO LIVE BACK THERE OR WHAT ARE YOU BUILDING IS A TWO STORY.

OR IS IT. NO, NO, IT'S A IT'S A 600 FOOT AFU.

THE LIMIT IS 800. WE'RE AT 600. IT'S A 20 BY 30.

ONE STORY, ONE BEDROOM, ONE BATH, KITCHENETTE AND LIVING SPACE.

SO EXCEPT FOR THE SUN OR. IS IT GOING TO BE AN AIRBNB OR WHAT? NO, IT WILL NOT BE AN AIRBNB. AND WE ALREADY HAVE AN AFFIDAVIT ON FILE WITH THE COUNTY STATING SUCH.

OH WELL THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? I HAVE A QUESTION.

YEAH, SURE. YES. IF I HAVE A QUESTION ACTUALLY FOR MIKE ROBERSON, IF HE COULD COME UP, I'LL KEEP YOU BUSY.

IF SOMEBODY COULD COME UP. JACOB.

AND I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHY THEIR PAPERWORK SHOWS WHAT IT DOES AND IT DOESN'T.

IS IT NOT ACCURATE? WHAT? LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT? YES, MA'AM. JACOB SMITH WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT FOR THE RECORD.

SO THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. THERE IS UNDOUBTEDLY ERRORS ON THESE CLEARANCE SHEETS ON MANY OF THE ONES THE GENTLEMAN CITED.

I CANNOT EXPLAIN HOW THOSE ERRORS HAPPENED. BROADLY SPEAKING, I WOULD SAY THAT NONE OF THOSE CLEARANCE SHEETS HAD A STRUCTURE BACK THERE.

AND SO THEY WERE NOT SCRUTINIZED AT THE SAME LEVEL AS WHEN HE CAME THROUGH FOR THE PROPOSED AFU.

OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

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SEEING NONE, WE WILL. OH, WAIT. NEVERMIND. NOPE.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE. PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE BOARD.

AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. OVERTURNING.

TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE. OVERTURNING THE DECISION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY TO APPROVE ZONING VARIANCE 2026-19, BASED UPON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AND SIX CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. LET'S VOTE.

OKAY, THAT PASSES FOR ONE. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S GO RIGHT ON TO NINE.

[9. Public Hearing * Adoption Hearing: LDCA26-05 Food Truck Parks. The Board of County Commissioners requested an update to Land Development Code (LDC) regulation regarding Food Truck Parks at their regularly scheduled public hearing on Tuesday, May 5, 2026. This item is a proposed amendment to the LDC for Food Trucks and Food Truck Parks; the BCC requests input from the PZA regarding the proposed ordinance. The Planning and Zoning Agency heard this item at their regularly scheduled meeting on August 6, 2026, and unanimously recommended approval with the added condition that the Food Truck Park design standards make reference to the St. Johns County Noise Ordinance.]

COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, WE'LL START WITH YOU. I HAVE NONE.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER. NONE. COMMISSIONER. WHITEHURST.

LOOKS LIKE I HAVE FOUR EMAILS. NO RECORD OF ANY MEETINGS OR PHONE CALLS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR AND I HAVE SEVEN PLUS EMAILS AND NO MEETINGS ON THIS.

OKAY, TWO PLUS EMAILS. NO MEETINGS FOR THE FOOD TRUCK PARKS.

I HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE WEST AUGUSTINE CRA ABOUT SPECIFIC AREA, BUT I DON'T THINK IT APPLIES TO THIS, BUT I'LL JUST DISCLOSE IT ANYWAY. YES, SIR. YOU'RE FREE TO GO.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AGAIN, JACOB SMITH WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE. THIS IS THE ADOPTION HEARING FOR LDC AYE 2605 FOR FOOD TRUCK PARKS. SO THIS BOARD HAS HEARD THIS ITEM BEFORE.

IT ALSO WENT TO THE PZA. THEY MADE A SMALL RECOMMENDED CHANGE WHICH IS PART OF YOUR PACKET.

AND THEY GAVE A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE.

JUST AS A RECAP, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS WE'RE ADDING FOOD TRUCKS AND FOOD TRUCK PARKS AS ALLOWABLE USES WITHIN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS.

WE'RE ADDING INDIVIDUAL FOOD TRUCKS AS A TEMPORARY USE, AND WE'RE PROVIDING THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR FOOD TRUCK PARKS AS WELL AS ADDING DEFINITIONS FOR IT. AND I DO HAVE A FULL BREAKDOWN OF SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE OUT THERE SINCE YOU LAST SAW THIS.

SO THIS BOARD DID ASK FOR THE HOURS OF OPERATION TO BE CHANGED TO 7 A.M.

TO 9 P.M. THAT IS INCLUDED IN HERE. SORRY, IT'S DIFFICULT TO READ ON HERE, BUT WHAT'S A PZA HAD ASKED FOR WAS THAT FOOD TRUCK PARK SHALL BE SHALL ABIDE BY THE NOISE ORDINANCE, WHICH THEY WOULD ALWAYS HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO, BUT THAT'S NOW IN THE SPECIFIED LANGUAGE FOR DESIGN STANDARDS.

AND LASTLY, I MADE A SMALL AMENDMENT TO THE DEFINITION OF FOOD TRUCK PARK TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY.

SPECIFICALLY, THAT FOOD TRUCK PARKS ARE TO BE DEVELOPED AS A PERMANENT MARKET OR FOOD COURT, AND THE INCLUSION OF THREE OR MORE FOOD TRUCKS AT TEMPORARY EVENTS, SUCH AS FESTIVALS OR FAIRS SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED FOOD TRUCK PARKS.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M HAPPY TO GO OVER ANYTHING.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SIR. THANK YOU SIR.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY. AT THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.

GOOD AFTERNOON. ED SULLIVAN, BOX 308 FOR EDITOR SLAVEN.COM.

I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE FOOD TRUCK PARKS AND I HAVE FOR YEARS THEY WERE REALLY HASSLED IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH, AND I TOLD THE FOLKS THAT IT WAS AN ANTITRUST VIOLATION, AND IF THEY SUED, THEY'D PROBABLY WIN TRIPLE DAMAGES AND ATTORNEY FEES.

IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS A CONSPIRACY GOING ON IN SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO HAD BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANTS DIDN'T WANT COMPETITION AND IT WAS REALLY UGLY. AND I FULLY SUPPORT THIS COMPROMISE WITH THE FOOD TRUCK PARKS.

IT'S BEEN DONE IN SEVERAL PLACES. I KNOW MY FRIEND KAREN ZANDER HAS BEEN WORKING WITH SOME OF THE APPLICANTS.

SHE DID A REALLY FINE JOB. BOTH MY PARENTS, MY PARENTS.

AFTER WORLD WAR TWO, MY FATHER, A DECORATED COMBAT VETERAN OF THE 82ND AIRBORNE, HELPED TO TAKE THE FIRST FRENCH TOWN BACK FROM THE NAZIS ON D-DAY BEFORE THE SUN EVEN ROSE. MY MOM AND DAD HAD 12 YEARS BEFORE I WAS BORN, A FOOD TRUCK.

THEY WOULD GO TO FOOTBALL GAMES. FRANKLIN FIELD IN PHILADELPHIA.

PHILADELPHIA POLICE EXTORTED BRIBES. THEY NEVER MADE A DIME.

THEY HAD TO GIVE 10% OF THEIR PROCEEDS TO THE PHILADELPHIA POLICE WHO HAD THEIR HAND OUT.

SO I REALIZED THERE'S CORRUPTION HERE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, AND IT'S EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK.

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IT WAS GIMME, GIMME, GIMME. MY NAME'S JIMMY, AND I KNOW THAT IN NEW YORK CITY AT ONE TIME, THERE WERE SEVEN. I'M SORRY. I'M TALKING. THERE WERE 70 PEOPLE WHO WENT TO PRISON IN NEW YORK CITY FOR CORRUPTION FROM TAKING BRIBES, CONSTRUCTION. SO WE NEED TO ROOT OUT CORRUPTION HERE, AND WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE THE FOOD TRUCK PARKS.

AND IF WE REALLY BELIEVE IN FREE ENTERPRISE, WE DO THIS MORE OFTEN BECAUSE UNLIKE ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A MARKET ECONOMY ANYMORE.

YOU LOOK AT DONALD JOHN TRUMP AND WHAT HE'S DOING.

NO, IT'S NOT A MARKET ECONOMY. ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY NOT.

BUT ANYWAY, PLEASE APPROVE THIS. THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND I WOULD JUST ASK PARENTHETICALLY, HOW DO YOU LIKE YOUR PRESIDENT NOW? I MEAN, REALLY. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON.

JUSTIN OWNER OF THE OUTPOST FOOD TRUCK PARK AT 2505 OLD MILITARY ROAD.

I JUST WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING IT'S REALLY A BREATH OF FRESH AIR TO BE UP HERE AND JUST BE HAPPY, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY SEE THIS COME FULL CIRCLE TO FRUITION.

I DID SEND AN EMAIL TO YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND JUST THANK THEM FOR LISTENING TO WHAT WE HAD TO SAY.

I THINK THERE WAS REALLY A LOT OF GOOD IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAME OUT OF SOME OF THE DISCUSSION LAST TIME, SPECIFICALLY THE, THE DISTANCE AND THE TIME. I THINK, YOU KNOW, 7 TO 9 IS VERY REASONABLE.

YOU KNOW, IT WORKS FOR BREAKFAST. IT WORKS FOR DINNER.

AND I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS A GOOD COMPROMISE.

YOU KNOW, I HEARD OR SAW TYRONE BENNETT COME UP.

I'VE NEVER MET HIM BEFORE. OBVIOUSLY HIS REPUTATION PRECEDES HIM.

PEOPLE KNOW WHO HE IS IN THE COMMUNITY. HE DOES A LOT OF OUTREACH FOR SMALL BUSINESS. SO IT WAS REALLY IT WAS REALLY COOL TO SEE HIM COME UP HERE AND TALK AND SHARE A STORY.

I'VE GOT A REALLY SIMILAR STORY. I MEAN, MY, MY DAUGHTER WAS IN THE NICU FOR, FOR THREE MONTHS. MY WIFE AND I WERE BOTH ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY WHEN IT HAPPENED. I HAD NO FAMILY AT THE TIME TO SUPPORT US BECAUSE WE WERE ACTIVE DUTY.

BUT ALL THAT TO SAY LIKE THESE ARE RULES THAT MATTER.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE SPENT HOURS AND HOURS TODAY TALKING ABOUT THE INTRICACIES OF WHETHER OR NOT THESE BIG, POWERFUL COMPANIES SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD THESE HUGE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENTS.

AND IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT SIDE OF THE AISLE YOU ARE ON THAT. WHAT MATTERS IS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE TYRONE, LIKE PEOPLE THAT ARE AT THE OUTPOST RIGHT NOW WORKING AND SELLING, THAT HAVE FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES THAT THEY RELY ON PLACES LIKE THE OUTPOST FOOD TRUCK PARKS, YOU KNOW, INNOVATIVE YOU KNOW, USE OF EXISTING PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS JUST A DERELICT PROPERTY THERE BEFORE.

AND I GET IT LIKE IT MEANT A LOT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD BROUGHT THEIR FAMILY PETS TO THAT VETERINARIAN BUILDING. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, BUT THINGS CHANGE AND TIMES EVOLVE.

AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO JUST BE THANKFUL THAT I THINK WE GOT IT RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT PUTTING BAD RULES ON THE BOOKS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND YOU KNOW, GET LITIGATED DOWN THE ROAD. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. I'M GLAD YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO GET TO NUMBER NINE BEFORE LUNCH.

SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME ON AGENDA NUMBER NINE.

OKAY. SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

I THINK LUNCH WAS DELAYED JUST FOR US. SO OKAY, BACK TO THE BOARD.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2026-31 ADOPTING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 26-05 FOOD TRUCK PARKS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. I'LL SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A WAIT BEFORE WE DO THAT, DO I NEED TO APPROVE THE CHANGES? IS THAT SOMETHING I NEED TO ADD TO THIS? NO. THEY WERE INCORPORATED INTO THIS VERSION. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

LET'S VOTE. AND THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO. GREAT JOB, BY THE WAY, SIR.

YOU LOOK, LOOK GREAT. YOUR POWER TIE, I LOVE IT.

GOOD JOB. ARE YOU HERE FOR THE NEXT ONE? IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT, SIR.

YEAH. LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.

[10. Public Hearing * First Reading: LDCA 2026-04 PVZDR Amendment - Lot Coverage Allowance for Swimming Pools. The Ponte Vedra Zoning and Adjustment Board (PVZAB) requested changes to the Ponte Vedra Zoning District (PVZDR) at their regularly scheduled meeting on April 6th, 2026, regarding an additional Lot Coverage allowance for properties 8,000 square feet or less in area, exclusively for the addition of residential swimming pools. The proposed lot coverage change would increase the pervious area on lots 8,000 square feet or less from forty (40) percent to forty-four (44) percent, with the additional allowance only to be used for swimming pools. At their regularly scheduled hearing on August 3, 2026, the Ponte Vedra Zoning and Adjustment Board recommended approval of the proposed code amendment with a vote of 6-0]

I HAVE NONE. AND COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. DID I HIT IT? I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANY EMAILS OR MEETINGS, BUT LAST NIGHT AT THE MSD, WE DID DISCUSS IT THE FLOODING ASPECT.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. NO RECORD OF ANY EMAILS, PHONE CALLS OR MEETINGS.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. AND THE SAME. NO RECORD OF ANYTHING.

OKAY. AND I HAVE NO RECORD OF ANYTHING EITHER. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. AGAIN, JACOB SMITH WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT. THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN. THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE PONTEVEDRA ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS.

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THEY BROUGHT THIS TO STAFF'S ATTENTION AND ASKED ASKED US TO DRAFT LANGUAGE FOR THIS PROPOSAL.

SO WE HAVE ALREADY BROUGHT THIS ITEM TO PVS, AND THEY VOTED 6 TO 0 TO RECOMMEND THIS LANGUAGE TO THIS BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO GIVE AN ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE FOR ONLY FOR POOLS, FOR THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA WITHIN PONTE VEDRA ZONING DISTRICT, FOR LOTS THAT ARE 8000FT² OR LESS.

IT IS EXCLUSIVELY FOR POOLS. IT IS NOT ALLOWED FOR PAVERS OR WALKWAYS OR ANY STRUCTURES, SIDEWALKS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT IS JUST FOR THE WATER SURFACE AREA.

AND AGAIN, IT IS A 4% ADDITION. SO THAT TYPICALLY PONTE VEDRA IS RESTRICTED TO A 40% I ESSER.

AND SO IN THIS CASE, THESE 800 ZERO SQUARE FOOT OR LESS LOTS WOULD BE ALLOTTED 44% WITH THAT ADDITIONAL 4% GOING TOWARDS POOL AREA. THAT BEING SAID, WE DID AN ANALYSIS OF HOW MANY LOTS WOULD BE AFFECTED IN PONTE VEDRA.

IT IS APPROXIMATELY 177. LOTS WOULD BE ABLE TO FALL UNDER THIS.

THEY ARE ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY IN TWO TWO NEIGHBORHOODS, THREE NEIGHBORHOODS.

BUT I HAVE THAT MAP UP THERE JUST FOR REFERENCE.

AND LASTLY, THIS IS THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY, AND IT IS AN ASTERISK TO THE EXISTING STANDARDS THAT AGAIN ALLOTS THE EXTRA 4% FOR POOL AREAS. THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS A FIRST READING.

THERE'S NO ACTION REQUIRED BY THIS BOARD. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WAIVE THE 5 P.M.

REQUIREMENT FOR THE ADOPTION HEARING, AND I'M ALSO AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NONE.

MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE 5 P.M. REQUIREMENT FOR THE ADOPTION HEARING.

SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND. LET'S VOTE. OKAY.

THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO FOR THE WAIVER WAIVER OF THE ADOPTION TIME.

THANK YOU. YEAH. LET'S LET'S TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A BREAK.

FAIR ENOUGH. LET'S BREAK FOR JOE. IS HE EVEN HERE? OH. SORRY, BUDDY. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK.

WE'LL BE BACK IN 130. HOW'S THAT SOUND? WHERE WE STAND IN RECESS.

FOR A DAY. ALL RIGHT. BACK IN SESSION. WE'LL GO TO MR.

[11. Approval of the 2026 Inventory List of Land Available for Affordable Housing in St. Johns County, Florida. Pursuant to section 125.379, F.S., the County shall prepare an inventory list of all real property within its jurisdiction to which the county or any dendent special district within its boundaries holds fee simple title which is appropriate for use as affordable housing. The Board of County Commissioners is required to review the inventory list at a public hearing and adopt a resolution approving the final list.]

THIS IS 11, SIR. OH. WE'RE 11. OKAY. THAT WAS MY FAULT.

GOOD JOB. SORRY. NO PROBLEM. I WILL BE VERY BRIEF.

ACCORDING TO FLORIDA STATUTE, WE THE COUNTY DOES NEED TO RECOGNIZE VARIOUS PROPERTIES THAT WE UTILIZE OR CAN BE UTILIZED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND HAVE SEEN THIS LIST BEFORE.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE STATUTORY REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING TO RECOGNIZE THE PROPERTIES.

AND THAT IS IT. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I FEEL BAD, BROTHER.

IT'S ALL RIGHT. IT'S ALL PART OF THE JOB, SIR.

I FEEL BAD. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS, SO WE'LL NEED PUBLIC COMMENT.

YES. YEAH. LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY. AT THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY. LET ME HELP. OKAY. AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS VICKI PEPPER.

I LIVE ON HARBOR VISTA CIRCLE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE, AND I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING MYSELF AND CARE COMMUNITY ADVOCATES FOR RACIAL EQUITY CARES, AN INFORMAL, INDEPENDENT CIVIC ACTION GROUP THAT GREW OUT OF SAINT AUGUSTINE'S COMMUNITY. CONVERSATION, EFFORT CARES PURPOSE IS TO SERVE BLACK AND OTHER UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY BY IDENTIFYING RESOURCES, INCLUDING FUNDING SOURCES, AND LINKING THEM WITH COMMUNITY NEEDS, AS IDENTIFIED BY COMMUNITY LEADERS CARE NOTES THAT THIS PROPOSED INVENTORY OF COUNTY OWNED PROPERTIES INCLUDES OVER 300 PARCELS. THE COUNTY HAS IDENTIFIED AS APPROPRIATE FOR USE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THIS IS PARTICULARLY SIGNIFICANT IN LIGHT OF THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE'S 2026 LIVE LOCAL ACT AMENDMENTS,

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HOWEVER, IN REVIEWING THE LIST, INCLUDING THE PHOTOGRAPHS, WE NOTE THAT BUILDING HOUSING THAT IS AFFORDABLE TO RESIDENTS WHOSE HOUSEHOLD INCOMES ARE 80% OF OUR AREA MEDIAN INCOME OR BELOW MAY NOT BE FEASIBLE ON MANY OF THESE LISTED PROPERTIES.

WE ALSO KNOW FROM THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE'S UPDATED HOUSING STUDY, FROM THE FRUSTRATION ENCOUNTERED BY LOCAL TEACHERS, HEALTH CARE WORKERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS FROM THE REDUCTION OF HOURS, IF NOT CLOSURE OF MANY LOCAL RESTAURANTS, AND FROM THE REPORTS OF SERVICE PROVIDER MEMBERS OF THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY CONTINUUM OF CARE.

OUR NEED TO INCREASE SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY'S HOUSING STOCK, AVAILABLE TO LOCAL HOUSEHOLDS AT A RANGE OF MODERATE AND LOWER INCOME LEVELS, REMAINS GREAT. NOTWITHSTANDING SB 180, THE COUNTY'S WATERED DOWN VERSION OF ITS UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STILL PROVIDES FOR MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING TYPES AND DENSITY BONUSES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO WE NEED TO MAKE MORE PROGRESS TOWARDS MEETING THIS COMMUNITY NEED.

THEREFORE, CARE ASKS YOU TO TASK COUNTY STAFF TO REVIEW THIS INVENTORY AND IDENTIFY THE 30 PARCELS PARCELS THAT ARE THE BEST CANDIDATES FOR THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE NEAR FUTURE. TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE SIZE OF THE UPLANDS PORTIONS OF EACH PARCEL, THE LOCATION OF EACH PARCEL RELATIVE TO THE AVAILABILITY OR RELATIVE ACCESSIBILITY OF INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING ROADS, WATER AND SEWER. GOOD STARTING POINT MIGHT BE THE STUDY OF THE CRA LOTS IN WEST AUGUSTINE BY ETA THAT THE COUNTY UNDERTOOK.

CARE STANDS READY TO WORK WITH THE STAFF IN COMPILING THIS LIST OF THE COUNTY'S 30 BEST PROPERTIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND ONCE THE LIST HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED, WE CAN PROCEED TO IDENTIFYING DEVELOPERS TO PROPOSE MEANINGFUL, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS THAT WILL BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY, BACK TO BOARD FOR A MOTION. I'M READY TO MAKE THAT.

WE'LL GO RIGHT AHEAD. MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2026 DASH 312.

ADOPTING THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY 2026 AFFORDABLE HOUSING INVENTORY LIST IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 125.379 FLORIDA STATUTES.

SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND. LET'S VOTE.

THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. COLE. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL NOW RECESS THE REGULAR BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING AND CONVENE AS THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY COMMUNITY

[12. Community Redevelopment Agency Fiscal Year 2027 Annual Budget. Pursuant to section 163.387, Florida Statutes, moneys in the Community Redevelopment Agency Trust Funds may be expended only pursuant to an annual budget adopted by the Community Redevelopment Agency and approved by the Board of County Commissioners. The CRA recommends the FY 2027 annual budget for the Flagler Estates, Vilano Beach, and West Augustine community redevelopment areas as attached.]

YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR MURPHY. COMMISSIONERS.

WADE SCHROEDER WITH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET. THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS AFTERNOON IS THE CRA ITEM THAT'S WITH THE FOR THE RE THE CONVENING AS THE CRA PER FLORIDA STATUTE 163.387. ANY MONIES IN THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY TRUST FUNDS MAY NOT BE EXPENDED UNLESS THEIR BUDGETS ARE APPROVED BY THE CRA BOARD.

SO THIS, THIS ITEM IS REQUESTING THAT APPROVAL.

THE CRA BUDGETS WERE PROVIDED AS BACKUP DOCUMENTATION.

I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE BUDGETS, BUT I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THEIR BUDGETS.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY. THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.

COME ON UP. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. EARLIER, WE HAD A COUPLE.

OH, I'M SHIRLEY LASSITER, I ALWAYS FORGET 45, 55 KELVIN.

AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE FLAGLER ESTATES COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

STANDING NEXT TO ME IS SHIRLEY DANIELS, BUT I'LL LET HER INTRODUCE HERSELF.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE BUDGET AND IN SUPPORT OF THE PEOPLE OF FLAGLER ESTATES.

FOR EVERY ROAD YOU PAY FOR US, THAT HELPS THE PEOPLE IN ACUTE PAIN OR CHRONIC PAIN TO AVOID THOSE BUMPS IN THE ROAD.

FOR EVERY EVERY EVENT THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE ONLY TWO.

WE HAVE A SPRING EVENT THAT'S CONNECTING FAMILIES, MAYBE SOME NEW RESIDENTS OR THOSE WHO HAVE JUST HIT A BUMP IN THEIR OWN ROAD FINANCIALLY TO COME AND CONNECT WITH SOCIAL SERVICES IN THE.

NOVEMBER COMING UP NOVEMBER 14TH. COME OUT TO FLAGLER ESTATES.

THE SPEED LIMITS ARE ONLY 25 TO 35. MAKE SURE YOU GO SLOW AND BE PREPARED TO STOP.

FOR OUR KIDS AND OUR WILDLIFE, OUR OUR WETLAND LIFE.

BUT THAT EVENT IS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A DOWNTOWN, BUT WE ARE FULL OF CRAFTERS AND

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AND THIS IS THE EVENT WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME OUT AND SEE WHAT SERVICES AND WHAT GOODS WE CAN PROVIDE AS A COMMUNITY.

SO LIKE OTHER OTHER COMMUNITIES MIGHT HAVE THEIR NIGHT OF LIGHTS FOR THEIR BUSINESSES.

THIS HOLIDAY EVENT. THIS IS CRUCIAL FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE SOLE PROPRIETORS, ENTREPRENEURS TO BRING IN SOME INCOME FOR THEIR FAMILIES.

AND SO WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. THOSE FUNDS.

I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES THOSE ARE SCRUTINIZED, BUT FOR US, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

SO I'M HERE JUST TO SAY PLEASE SUPPORT OUR RESIDENTS.

PLEASE SAY YES TO THE BUDGET FOR FLAGLER ESTATES.

WE APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS SHIRLEY DANIELS AND I'M THE VICE SECRETARY ON THE CRA.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALSO FOR EVEN PROPOSING THE BUDGET FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF FLAGLER ESTATES OUT THERE. I LIVE OUT THERE AND I'M ENJOYING LIVING OUT THERE.

I'VE BEEN OUT THERE 20 YEARS. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE OUT THERE.

SO WE I'M ENJOYING BEING A RESIDENT AND JUST HOPE THAT YOU CONTINUE TO HELP US IMPROVE THE AREA OUT THERE.

THANK YOU. THIS IS OH, OKAY. ANYWAYS, I WANT TO JUST THANK YOU GUYS FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE.

A NAME, NAME AND ADDRESS. CARLOS GUERRA, AMIGO ESTATES.

AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THE THE BOARD AND THE CIA FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO IN THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE AT THIS TIME? OKAY. SEEING NO MORE COMMENTS, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY. WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY FISCAL YEAR 2027 RECOMMENDED BUDGET FOR THE FLYOVER STATES POLANCO AND WEST AUGUSTINE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREAS. I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. MOTION AND SECOND. LET'S VOTE. OKAY, THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO.

CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. WE ARE ADJOURNING AS THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY CRA, AND WE ARE RECONVENING THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETING FOR MISS ROMERO. GOOD AFTERNOON MA'AM.

[13. Consider appointment to the Housing Finance Authority. Currently there is one (1) vacancy on the Housing Finance Authority due to a resignation of Robin Pfalgraf. The vacancy was advertised in June and ran for approx. 2 months. attached for your review and consideration a letter of recommendation from the Housing Finance Authority and ten (10) applications Christopher Chamberlain, Dist. 1, James Angeletti, Dist. 2, Jessica Edwards, Dist. 2, Dr. Meredith Rudolph Payne, Dist. 2, Seth Wingate, Dist. 2, Christopher Walker, Dist. 3, David (Brandon) Chapman, Dist. 4, Taly Brinzey, Dist. 5, Lacey Hillard, Dist. 5, and Peter McGoldrick, Dist. 5.]

MY ITEM IS FOR THE HOUSING FINANCE AUTHORITY.

CURRENTLY, THERE IS ONE VACANCY DUE TO A RESIGNATION OF ROBIN PFALZGRAF.

THEY ADVERTISE ADVERTISEMENT. RAN IN JUNE AND WAS RAN FOR APPROXIMATELY TWO MONTHS.

PLEASE FIND THE LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION AND TEN APPLICATIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION. OR DO WE WANT TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANY IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13.

LUCKY 13. OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOTION TO APPOINT CHRISTOPHER WALKER TO THE HOUSING FINANCE AUTHORITY FOR A PARTIAL TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE APRIL 15TH, 2029. SECOND.

MOTION TO SECOND. LET'S VOTE. OKAY, THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO.

GREAT JOB. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU WORKED REALLY HARD ON THAT. OKAY, THAT BRINGS US TO OUR COMMISSIONERS REPORTS.

[Commissioners’ Reports]

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, MA'AM. ANY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, I'M JUST GRATEFUL.

AND I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO REPORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

YES. SO IN LIGHT OF TODAY'S EARLIER VOTE ON INSERT 2026-01 IN AN EFFORT TO HELP US BE AS CONSISTENT AS POSSIBLE.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECONSIDER AT A SPECIAL MEETING.

INSERTS APPLICATION 2020 605 AND INSERT APPLICATION 2026-06 AT A SPECIAL MEETING ON OR BEFORE SEPTEMBER 28TH. THAT'S MY MOTION.

I'LL SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

WELL, FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION OBVIOUSLY WE MADE A MOTION TODAY.

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I THINK THAT WE KIND OF HASTILY APPROVED THE FIRST TWO APPLICATIONS THAT WE HEARD DOWN OFF OF STATE ROAD 207.

THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE PERIMETER BOUNDARY.

THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC. AS WE ALL KNOW, STATE ROAD TWO SEVEN IS WAY OVER CAPACITY IN MANY AREAS.

I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE FOR US AS A BOARD TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THOSE APPLICATIONS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS IN COMPLIANCE.

WE PUT INSERT 2026-01 THROUGH THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS, THREE PUBLIC AGENDA ITEMS. AND I FEEL LIKE WE SORT OF HASTILY RUBBER STAMPED THESE FIRST TWO APPLICATIONS.

SO AGAIN, FOR THAT REASON, THAT'S WHY I MADE THE MOTION.

I THINK WE SHOULD BRING THEM BACK, PUT IT UNDER THE MICROSCOPE, AND TAKE A CLOSER LOOK.

YEAH, I DEFINITELY AGREE. I MEAN, I'M FINE WITH DOING THAT.

OKAY. I KIND OF FEEL LIKE IT'S PAYBACK FOR SOME REASON, I DON'T KNOW.

WHAT TWO IS HE TALKING ABOUT? CHRIS SHE'S OR IS HE INCLUDING THE ONE WE JUST VOTED TO DENY? I THOUGHT IT WAS CLEAR. SO INSERT 2026-05. THAT WAS THE FIRST APPLICATION THAT WE HEARD ON AUGUST THE 19TH, WHICH WAS A SPECIAL MEETING AND INSERT 2026-06, WHICH WAS THE SECOND APPLICATION THAT WE HEARD AT THE SPECIAL MEETING ON AUGUST THE 19TH.

THOSE ARE THE APPLICATIONS DOWN OFF OF STATE ROAD 207.

SO THEY'RE ONLY IN THAT 207 AREA. CORRECT. I THINK THERE'S ONE ON THE EAST SIDE OF I 95.

AND ONE WAS ON THE WEST SIDE OF I 95. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THOSE THOSE ARE THE ONES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I'D LIKE I'D LIKE TO HAVE A VOTE ON THAT MOTION.

OR IF WE CAN GET CONSENSUS, THAT'D BE EVEN BETTER.

NO, NO, I CAN'T GIVE CONSENSUS. WE JUST VOTED TO APPROVE ONE MORE.

SO DID WE ADD THAT ONE TO THE LIST TOO? WOULD YOU WOULD YOU WANT TO ADD THAT ONE? WELL, I THINK THAT WE CAN ADD ALL OF THEM AND BRING THEM ALL BACK.

NOT THE ONE WE JUST DENIED THOUGH, CORRECT? YEAH.

WELL WE'VE HEARD THAT ONE THREE TIMES. I THINK WE HAVE TO BRING THEM ALL BACK. I THINK WE CAN BRING WE CAN BRING THEM BACK. BRING THEM ALL. FOURTH TIME. JUST BRING THEM ALL BACK.

WHAT'S THAT? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. LET ME SEE. SO THE TWO OFF OF NEAR 207 ON BOTH SIDES OF 95. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS WHAT OTHER ONE DO YOU WANT? I DON'T KNOW ALL THE NUMBERS THE WAY YOU JUST WELL, THE ONE THAT WE HEARD TODAY, THE AFI APPLICATION, THAT WAS NOT REALLY MY MY BIGGER CONCERN. THE COMMUNITY'S HAD A LONG TIME TO LOOK AT THAT. I THINK THE FIRST ONES THAT WE HEARD ON AUGUST THE 19TH, I THINK THEY HAD THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO LOOK AT IT. BUT BUT LISTEN, I'M NOT I'VE MADE A MOTION, IF YOU WANT TO BRING IF YOU WANT TO BRING THOSE TWO BACK BECAUSE YOU THINK PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME, THEN LET'S JUST BRING THEM ALL BACK BECAUSE THEY ALL HAD THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. SO LET'S JUST ALL THE ONES THAT WE'VE APPROVED THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY THAT YOU HAVE THE POWER TO BRING BACK. I SAID, LET'S BRING THEM BACK.

LET'S BRING THEM ALL BACK. I'M LOOKING AT MY SCHEDULE ON THAT MONDAY.

THE ONLY THING I HAVE IS ONE MEETING. SO. WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BRING BACK THE ONE WE HEARD TODAY AGAIN.

NO, THE ONE WE DENIED. WE'RE NOT BRINGING THAT ONE. YEAH, THE PALM VALLEY ONE IS DONE.

WE'RE NOT BRINGING THAT ONE BACK. CORRECT. THROUGH.

THROUGH THE CHAIR. JUST A PROCEDURAL NOTE. SO WE'RE CONTEMPLATING MOTIONS TO RECONSIDER.

SO FOR THE TWO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THOSE TO A MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS MADE BY A PERSON ON THE PREVAILING SIDE.

AND MY NOTES ARE CORRECT. THEN COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST IS AN APPROPRIATE MEMBER TO BRING THE MOTION.

ALTHOUGH GENERALLY IT'S AT THE NEXT MEETING. SO THAT AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE ISSUE OF BEING ABLE TO, IF WE'RE BRINGING THESE BACK FOR MORE PUBLIC HEARING WE HAVE A NOTICING ISSUE.

AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE UNTIL THE 29TH IS WHAT THE 90 DAY DEFAULT PERIOD.

AND SO WE DO THE 90 DAYS, WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN ACTION. SO WE'RE STILL GOING TO USE THAT AS A DEADLINE.

AND SO WE DO HAVE A NOTICING ISSUE. WE CAN DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO GET THOSE NOTICED IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE WANTING.

WITH REGARD TO ALL THE OTHER ONES, I SUGGEST YOU TAKE THEM APPLICATIONS BECAUSE I HAVE TO CHECK MY NOTES ON WHO WAS ON THE PREVAILING SIDE FOR THOSE TO BRING A MOTION TO RECONSIDER. THANK YOU. YES, I'M STANDING BY MY MOTION OF THE INSERT 2026-052026-06.

NOT TO NECESSARILY REHEAR THEM AND HAVE A FULL FLEDGED HEARING AGAIN, BUT DO WHAT WE DID TODAY AND HAVE A BOARD DISCUSSION WHERE WE CAN TAKE ACTION ON THOSE TWO APPLICATIONS. SO THAT'S MY MOTION. SO NONE OF THE ONES WE HEARD TODAY IS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT THROUGH THE CHAIR TO COMMISSIONER JOSEPH FOR THIS MOTION.

HE'S ONLY I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION TO BE JUST REGARDING 2026 005 AND 2026 006, BASED ON THE

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YEP. I'LL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER.

YOU ALREADY HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND. SECOND. OH, IT'S ALREADY SECOND. SORRY. THANK YOU. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HAHN. SORRY. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION, AND WE HAVE A SECOND. SO THE MOTION IS TO BRING BACK THOSE TWO APPLICATIONS THAT WE INITIALLY. WHEN DID WE WHEN DID WE APPROVE THOSE? AUGUST 19TH. AUGUST 19TH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT THEN.

WELL LET'S LET'S VOTE. AND THAT PASSES FOR ONE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. OKAY. OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU. YEAH, I WANTED TO ACTUALLY, IF WE COULD.

I'VE GOT SOME PHOTOS THAT GO WITH THIS. I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

I KNOW WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM, BOAT RAMP BILLY.

FOR SOME TIME NOW, HE'S BEEN SPEAKING BEFORE THE COUNTY COMMISSION FOR SEVERAL YEARS, WAY BEFORE I GOT HERE, AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME OF THE PHOTOS THAT I'VE TAKEN UP IN THAT AREA.

AND THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS HERE.

THERE'S BEEN VEHICLES PARKED SO THAT THAT BOAT RAMP CAN'T BE ACCESSED.

AND I KNOW MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, THE COUNTY DID PERMIT A DRIVEWAY TO IMPEDE THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THE HOUSE IS BUILT NOW AND THE DRIVEWAY CAN'T BE MOVED.

BUT WE DEFINITELY DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT AREA IS CLEARED AND THAT SOMEONE CAN MANEUVER THEIR BOAT AND TRAILER WITHOUT IMPEDING BEING IMPEDED. AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTOS, THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE IMPEDING THE WAY TO MANEUVER OVER THERE.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE CONSENSUS FROM EVERYONE TO HAVE STAFF CHECK ON THE RIGHT OF WAY WEEKLY AT THE PALMETTO BOAT RAMP.

SO THAT OUR RESIDENTS CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THIS BOAT RAMP.

BUT IF I'M HOPING TO GET CONSENSUS ON THAT. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. ARE YOU OKAY WITH IT? COMMISSIONER. OKAY. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF NODS. NODS, SHAKING IN AGREEMENT.

SO GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALSO, I DID WANT TO FOLLOW UP AS WELL WITH A MEMO FROM OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, JOY ANDREWS, THAT SHE ACTUALLY SENT THAT ON AUGUST 31ST.

THE BOARD DIRECTED STAFF AT THE AUGUST 18TH MEETING TO WORK WITH THE NOURISH KIDS CENTER TO HELP IDENTIFY POTENTIAL FUNDING FOR A SIX MONTH PILOT PROGRAM REPRESENTING 50% OF THE PILOT PROGRAMS ANTICIPATED COST.

NOW, THESE FUNDS ARE VITAL TO BRINGING FLORIDA'S FIRST SCRATCH MADE ORGANIC FARM TO DAYCARE LUNCH PROGRAM TO LIFE RIGHT HERE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

AND IT'S PLANNED TO TAKE PLACE AT IMMERSION MONTESSORI SCHOOL.

ONCE THIS PILOT IS COMPLETED, WE'LL BE ABLE TO EXPAND TO FIVE SCHOOLS AND BECOME A TRUE FARM TO DAYCARE SUPPLY CHAIN FOR THEM, BRINGING OUR OWN FOOD TO OUR OWN CHILDREN. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA.

SO I'M SO EXCITED THAT WE COULD BE THE FIRST.

THEY HAVE FORMALLY REQUESTED $65,000 IN ONE TIME FUNDING FROM THE FROM THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY GENERAL FUND TO HELP LAUNCH THE PILOT, WHICH WILL BE JANUARY TO JUNE OF 27, AND ESTABLISH THIS FARM TO DAYCARE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S PLANNED TO TAKE PLACE AT IMMERSION MONTESSORI SCHOOL.

SO I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE CONSENSUS TO TRANSFER AND APPROPRIATE THIS FUNDING FROM THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES.

THROUGH THE CHAIR JUST I WANT TO REMIND YOU OF YOUR BOARD RULES UNDER RULE 4.30 FOR ANY FUNDING REQUEST THAT IS NOT PUBLISHED AND SHALL BE SHALL BE LIMITED TO $5,000 OR LESS. YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO WAIVE THAT RULE? OH YES. I WOULD LOVE TO WAIVE THAT RULE. YEAH.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THAT RULE? SECOND. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO WAIVE THE $5,000 CAP ON THINGS THAT ARE NOT BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD.

LET'S VOTE. OKAY. THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO TO WAIVE THE RULE.

NOW, YOU MAY ASK. OKAY, GREAT. SO NOW CAN WE PLEASE GET CONSENSUS TO TRANSFER THE FUNDING FROM THE GENERAL FUND? THAT HAS TO BE DONE BY MOTION. OH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TRANSFER THE FUNDING FROM THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES IN THE AMOUNT OF $65,000 FOR A ONE TIME FUNDING.

SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. LET'S VOTE.

PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC COMMENT. SORRY. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MOTION THAT WE JUST MADE.

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LET'S VOTE. GREAT. THROW IT UP THERE FOR ME. THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU. AND THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO. GOOD JOB.

AWESOME. AWESOME. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN HERE SINCE THIS MORNING.

SO THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH US ALL DAY. BUT CONGRATS.

VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT PROGRAM. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. OKAY. I HAVE NO COMMENT. NEED TO RESTATE THE RULE THAT WAS JUST WAVED.

NO, IT WAS JUST FOR THAT PURPOSE. OKAY. OH, REINSTATE THE RULE.

IS THAT WHAT WE HAD TO DO OR OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

HAPPENS AUTOMATICALLY. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

MISS ANDREWS, DO YOU HAVE A REPORT? YES. THANK YOU, MR.

[County Administrator’s Report]

WE'RE STAFF IS HOSTING A TOWN HALL TO ADDRESS THE AMENDMENT THREE, AND WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A PUBLIC EDUCATION SESSION, AND THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE 29TH OF SEPTEMBER, 630 IN THIS AUDITORIUM.

SO I THINK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU HAS BEEN INVITED, AND IT'S ON YOUR CALENDAR, AND WE HOPE THAT TO SEE YOU THERE AS WELL.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE LIVE STREAMED AND RECORDED SO THAT WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS WHO CAN MAKE IT.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO ASK TYLER TO BRING UP THE WEBSITE REAL QUICK, AND JUST SO THAT EACH ONE OF YOU IS AWARE THAT WE DO HAVE A WEBSITE NOW IS RUNNING, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND THE WEBSITE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT THERE TO EDUCATE OUR VOTERS ON WHAT AMENDMENT THREE IS GOING TO DO. OKAY. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. SO I HAVE ON MY SCHEDULE, THE 29TH IS A PROPOSED PROPERTY TAX AMENDMENT.

IS THAT THE THE TOWN HALL OR HAVE THE TOWN TOWN HALL IN PONTE VEDRA ON THE 30TH? DO WE HAVE THE THE ONE IN PONTE VEDRA, I BELIEVE IS HOSTED BY PALM VALLEY COALITION.

SO THAT'S PRIVATELY HOSTED. I'LL BE THERE AS WELL.

YOU'LL BE THERE, RIGHT? OKAY. BUT THIS ONE IS A STAFF HOSTING THIS ONE.

YEAH. BOTH DAYS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK THERE ARE MORE TO.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT. I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT ON MY.

OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. COMMANDER. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SO THERE WAS COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST MOTION TO RECONSIDER, WHICH PREVAILED ON 4 TO 1 VOTE.

[County Attorney’s Report]

I THINK HE GAVE US THE 28TH. I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE SAID IN HIS.

I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR A DATE. YEAH, 28TH IS WHAT HE SAID.

IS THAT AGREEABLE TO EVERYBODY? I MAY HAVE A HAIR APPOINTMENT ON THE 28TH.

LET'S GO LOOK. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE.

OKAY. I SEEM TO BE FREE THAT DAY. OKAY, GOOD.

ANYTHING ELSE TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD? BEFORE WE ADJOURN. THEN LET'S ADJOURN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.