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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY FOR FEBRUARY 6, 2020. AT 1:31 ON THE CLOCK UP FRONT. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE NEEGHT ORDER HERE. WE'LL START OFF WITH A READING PUBLIC NOTICES STATEMENT.
>> PUBLIC NOTICE. THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN CONCURRENCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW. THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TO THE AGENCY'S AREA OF JURISDICTION AND THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER COMMENT AT A DESIGNATE TIME DURING THE HEARING.
ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK MUST INDICATE SO BY IS AVAILABLE IN THE FOYER.WHICH- ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS MAY BE HEARD ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN.
SPEAKER CARDS MAY BE TURN IN TO STAFF. THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIME DURING THE MEETING ON EACH ITEM AND FOR A LENGTH OF TIME AS DESIGNATED BY THE CHAIRMAN WHICH SHALL BE THREE MINUTES. Y, T. SPEAKERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, WHO THEY REPRESENT AND THEN STATE THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIMONY. IF THEY DO NOT, THE FACT THAT TESTIMONY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED BY THE AGENCY IN DETERMINING THE WEIGHT OR TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY.
NUMBER TWO, IN A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAR IN -- APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE WITH RESPECT TO ANY MATTER CONSIDERED AT THE HEARING, SUCH PERSON WILL NEED A RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM ROFORTD PROCEEDING IS RES MADE WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL TO BE BASED. ANY PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING SUCH AS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS, PHOTOGRAPHS OR WRITTEN STATEMENTS, WILL BE RETAINED BY THE STAFF AS PART OF THE RECORD. THE RECORD WILL THEN BE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER BOARD OF THE COUNTY OR IN ANY REVIEW OR APPEAL RELATED TO THE ITEM.
ROAM MAN NUMERAL 3. BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT THEY BEGINNING OF EACH SESSION THEY SHOULD STATE WHETHER THEY HAD ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT OR ANY OTHER PERSON REGARDING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ITEM OUTSIDE THE FORMAL HEARING OF THE AGENCY.
IF SUCH COMMUNICATION HAS OCCURRED, THE AGENCY MEMBERS SHALL THEN IDENTIFY THE PERSONS INVOLVED AND THE MATERIAL CONTENT OF COMMUNICATION. ROAM MAN NEWSROOM 4, CIVILITY CLAUSE. WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE.
WE WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THE ISSUES. WE WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS.
>> WE WILL FOR SURE. UP NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. THIS IS WHEN -- ORS THIS IS THE TIME WHEN THE PUBLIC CAN SPEAK ON NATION NOT ON TODAY'S AGENDA. SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE OUT
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PUBLIC COMMENTS. UP NEXT IS APPROVAL OF OUR MINUTES FROM JANUARY 16, 2020.TAKE A MOTION ON THAT. CAN YOU TALK INTO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.
THAT HELPS. FOR THE FOLKS AT HOME. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE
AND A SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, JUST A VOICE VETO.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED.
SEEING NONE, MOTION CARRIES. MINUTES ARE APPROVED. >> MR. CHAIR, THIS IS THE
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READING OF THE CONFLICT FORM PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 112 WBL 41 WHICH STATES THAT MR. KOPPENHAFER DISCLOSE ODD JANUARY 2020 THAT A THE SPECIAL GAIN OR LOSS OF THE PRINCIPLE BY WHICH HE WAS RETAINED. THIS IS DEALING WITH COMP PLAN 201905 DURBIN PARK TRANSMITTALHEARING. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AND GET TO THEY MEAT OF MATTER. WE'VE GOT A HOEFT STUFF ON THE AGENDA SO. WE CAN HOLD COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS UNTIL AFTER THE APPLICANT IS DONE, THAT MIGHT SPEED THINGS ALONG HERE. ITEM NUMBER 1, MS. COOLLY.
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HOW ARE YOU? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR AND AGENCY MEMBERS.
WELCOME TO THE NEW MEMBERS THAT I HAVE YET TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET.
TODAY'S ITEM NUMBER 1 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS SPECIAL USE PERMIT 2019-15 WHICH IS SALEBURG DISTILLING COMPANY. IS REQUEST IS FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TOAL HUH LOU A CRAFT MICROSTILL ENTRY PUTIN TO 3. RO AND SECTION 2.035MN AT THE TIME OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO SPECIFICALLY ALLOW FOR ON-SITE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 215 WEST DAVIS INDUSTRIAL DRIVE. THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION
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THAT OF SPECIFIC AREA IS INDUSTRIAL. THERE IS SOME RESIDENTIALLY TO THE SOUTH, MICKED USE TO THE ROUSE AND RESIDENTIAL B TO THE WEST.THE CURRENT ZONING IS INDUSTRIAL WITH OPEN RURAL SURRENDERING IT TO THE SOUTH AND WEST ALONG WITH SOME RESIDENTIAL MOANLS TO THE SOUTHEAST. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A FLORIDA TYPE CMB LICENSE WHICH IS HAD A MANUFACTURE ENGAGED IN BREWING MALT BEVERAGES, TOGETHER WITH A TWO COP LICENSING WHICH ALLOWS ON-SITE SAMPLING AND OFF-SITE CONSUMPTION FOR PACKAGE SALES OF THE BEER. THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE RETAIL TASTING AND ON-SITE CONSUMPTION WILL CONSISTENT MONDAY THROUGH FRIE 10:00 A.M.
TO 7:00 P.M., SATURDAY 12:00 P.M. TO 7:00 P.M. THEY DO INTEND TO BE CLOSED ON SUNDAYS. ASK AND THE HOLIDAY HOURS, SHOULD THEY BE OPEN, WOULD BE 12:00 P.M. TO 5:00 P.M. THE REQUEST IS SUBMITTED MEETS ALL APPLICABLE CRITERIA SET FORTH THE IN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SACHS LISTED. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED INFORMATION REGARDING THE AMOUNT OF SALES. CON SIEWRNLS WILL BE ABLE TO PURCHASE PER FLORIDA STATE LAW UP TO SIX BOTTLES OF EACH TABLE MANUFACTURED BUT FOR CONSUMPTION OFF-SITE ONLY. THEIR LARGER QUANTITIES WILL BE SOLD TO WHOLESALERS.
THIS IS THER AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE IT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL CENTER HERE. AND THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
THE GROSS FLOOR AREA IS 1320. WE HAVE 330 SQUARE FEET OF TASTING ROOM, RETAIL AND OFFICE, AND APPROXIMATELY 900 SQUARE FEET UTILIZED FOR MANUFACTURING. SO IT WOULD BE ACCESSORY TO THE NUPTIAL MANUFACTURING ING THE PROPOSED DILLS RI IS ALLOWED UNDER MICROBREWERY STANDARDS.
ING IN ADDITION INVITING THE PUBLIC FOR TASTING OR CON SUPS PROMPTS THE REITERATE FOR THE SPECIAL USE. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THIS AND THAT ALL CODE REQUIREMENTS CAN BE ME MET. THE APPROVAL OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED AS OF A MICROBREWER FACILITY ALONG WITH SACHS SACHS RI ON-SITE SAMPLING AND RETAIL SALES WOULD NOT SUBSTANTIALLY IMPAIR THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THE CODE.
ALSO, THE REQUEST IS SUBMITTED DOES NOT APPEAR TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE SURROUNDING OR ADJACENT USES OR COMMUNITY FACILITIES AS THERE IS NO DIRECT ACCESS TO RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE SOUTH. THE REQUEST IS SUBMITTED DOES REQUIRE SPECIAL USE APPROVAL AND COMPLIES WITH ALL THE REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS FOUND IN ARTICLE 2 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ALONG WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. STAFF HAS RECEIVED NO CORRESPONDENCE OR PHONE CALLS REGARDING THIS APPLICATION. AND THEREFORE FINDS THE REQUEST SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND YOU'VE BEEN END HAVE PROVIDEY WITH EIGHT FONDING AND 11 CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL OR SEVEN FINDING FOR DENIAL. I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS, AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PRESENT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CAN WE HAVE THE APPLICANT STEP FORWARD, PLEASE. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD
PLEASE AND IF YOU CARE TO ADDS ANYTHING HAD TO THAT. >> MY NAME IS BLIND LIEBERMAN AT 104AL CA CZAR STREET ST. AUGUSTINE 3 RO 080. I ONLY HAVE ONE EXRKS.
THE LICENSING WE WILL NOT RECEIVE A 2COP LICENSE. IT'S DEAL ACTUALLY A DD WHICH IS A I. DISTILLERY MANUFACTURING LICENSE, AND THEN AS PAFER THAT, STATE LAW PROVIDES FOR CRAFT DISTILLERS A CD SUBSECTION ON THAT WHICH IS WHERE THE RIGHT TO ACTUALLY SERVE THE ALCOHOL IN SMALL TASTING, THAT'S WHERE THAT'S LEGALLY DESIGNATED. SO THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE.
>> DID YOU BRING ANY OF THOSE SAMPLES WITH US? >> NO, BUT YOU'RE CERTAINLY
WELCOME BACK AFTER FOD IF ALL GOES WELL TO TRY IT. >> I ASK FOR ARCHIE.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? >> I'M GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED THE DISTILLATION BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED ONLY IN PASSING IN THE AGENDA ITEM, SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT BEER IS, MALT BEVERAGES ARE A LITTLE HIGHER OCTANE WITH HIGHER ALCOHOL LEVEL OF ABOUT 6%, AND THEY'RE BREWED DIFFERENTLY, SO I WAS SURPRISED IN READING THIS WHOLE AGENDA ITEM THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN IT STARTS TALKING ABOUT DISTILLATION.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT ARE YA'LL ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE THERE.
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IS IT GOING TO BE ROD CAW, GIN, BOURBON IN. >> WE WILL BE FERMENTING VODKA -- EXCUSE ME -- TERMING RUM PLIERL MAP THAT WILL BE OUR FLAGSHIP PRODUCT.
WE WILL HAVE A VODKA AND A GIN AND SOME OTHER VARIATIONS, OTHER CRAFT RECIPES THAT WE'RE WORKING
IN SMALL BATCHES TO GET OUT TO THE POEM WHO COME IN VISIT U. >> AT ONE POINT IN MY LIFE I USED TO MAKE WINE, AND THIS WAS IN TEXAS YEARS AGO, BUT I COULD MAKE UP TO 400 GALLONS UNDER THE TEXAS ALCOHOL BEVERAGE COMMISSION RULES, AND IT SEEMS LOOK 30 BY 30 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS YOUR 900-FOOT PORTION OF YOUR BREWERY, YOUR BREW AREA AND FERMENTATION HEAR AND THEN DISTILLERY SEEMS SMALL. IS THAT ACTUALLY ENOUGH ROOM TO DO ALL THIS?
>> IT IS. THERE ARE SOME TRADE SECRETS WHICH I WON'T REVEAL ABOUT HOW WE ACTUALLY MAKE THE PRODUCT, BUT WE ARE ABLE TO -- WE'RE NO LOOKING TO COMPETE WITH THE LARGE DISTILLERIES, NOT ONLY THE NATIONAL BRANDS BUT THE LOCAL BRANDS.
WE LOOK TO JUST BUILD A BETTER PRODUCT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.
AND THE AREA THAT WE HAVE, THE WAY WE HAVE SET IT UP, WE'VE GOT A FAIRLY DECENT SYSTEM WHERE WE MOVE FROM ONE STEP OF THE PROCESS TO THE NEXT STEP OF THE PROCESS KIND OF FLUID EXPLICIT WORKS. OUR EQUIPMENT -- FLUIDLY. OUR EQUIPMENT IS REALLY SMALL.
WE'RE LITERALLY MAKING IT 1 GALLON AT A TIME RIGHT NOW. VOLUME, HOWEVER, WE'VE JUST GOT TO WORK THOSE DETAILS OUT IN IN ORDER TO HAVE BIGGER EQUIPMENT, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HAVING MORE ELECTRICAL ACCESS AVAILABLE AT THE SITE, AND WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED ON ALL OF THAT AFTER THE OUTCOME OF TODAY. BUT THE FEDERAL LAW DOES NOT ALLOW FOR FINANCIAL LITERACY OF DISTILLED SPIRITS OUTSIDE OF A LICENSED DISTILLERY SO WE CAN'T MAKE ANY -- NO 200 GALLONS OF WINE OR 200 GALLONS OF BEEPER YOU COULD MAKE THAT ALL DAY LONG. BUT CRAFT DESCRIFERLS OR ANY DISTILLERIES, IT'S STRICTLY
FORBIDDEN. >> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. I MANUFACTURED A GREAT DEAL OF DISTILLED LIQUOR IN SAUDI ARABIA AND I FOUND IT TO BE THE, THE FUMES COULD BE OVERPOWERING, AND IT WAS FLAMMABLE AND EXPLOSIVE.
ARE THERE SPECIAL FIRE DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW?
>> YES. THE LIQUOR ITSELF IN ITS -- IT IS COMBUSTIBLE.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR THE, ACTUALLY IT'S INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE REQUIRES THAT OUR BILL IS UNSPRINKLERRED AND BECAUSE WE'RE UNSPRINKLERRED WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE MORE THAN APPROXIMATELY 100 GALLONS OF PRODUCT THAT IS NOT IN BOTTLES OR BARRELS.
SO WHEN WE'RE MANUFACTURING, AND AGAIN WE'RE MAKING THIS ONE GALLON AT THE TIME, WE ARE NOT APPROACHING ANYWHERE NEAR THE FIRE CODES AT THIS POINT. IF WE WANTED TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL UNBARRELLED SUPPLY, WHAT THEY CALL AN OPEN SYSTEM, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SPRINKLERS INSTALLED TO BRING THAT UP TO 240 GALLONS OF OPEN CONTAINER, BUT WE ARE -- AT THIS TIME WE HL OF WHICH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 10 IS BARRELED RIGHT NOW SO WE'RE NOT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO
THE FIRE CODES. >> ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION. THE RESIDUE, WHAT'SLEFT AFTER YOU DISTILL IT, ARE THERE SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS FOR DISPOSAL OF THE SECOND RUN?
>> THERE ARE SOME REQUIREMENTS. WE'RE USING A SUGAR-BASED PRODUCT.
IT'S ALL SUGARCANE. THERE ARE NO -- WE'RE BASICALLY PUTTING LIQUID SUGAR DOWN THE DRAIN WHEN THE PROCESS IS ENDED. SO AFTER THE FIRST RUN -- SO WE FERMENT THE SUGAR WARRANT PUT THAT INTO THE STILL, RUN IT TO THE STILL ONCE. WE COLLECT THAT PRODUCT, PUT NIGHT A TANK. THE RESIDUAL, SOME OF THAT WE KEEP SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN A FLAVOR PROFILE ACROSS THE BATCHES. THE REST JUST GOES DOWN THE DRAIN. THERE ARE NO REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT.
IT'S JUST SUGAR WATER WITH SOME YEAST IN IT BECAUSE THERE'S NO ALCOHOL LEFT IN IT.
>> THANK YOU. >> CERTAINLY. >> LEGENDARY A LOT MORE DID
DISTILLING THAN I EVER THOUGHT I WOULD. >> COME OUT AND LEARN MORE.
>> DO WE HAVE TBHI OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I SEE NONE.
THANK YOU. YOU MAY HAVE'S SEAT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER
CARDS? >> TWO SPEAKER CARDS. TRACY SMITH, WOULD YOU COME FORWARD, TELL US YOUR NAME AGAIN, YOUR ADDRESS, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
>> SO MY NAME IS TRACY SMITH. I RESIDE A 2866 NORTH 9TH STREET S. AUGUSTINE 32 OGG 4 POP
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I'M THE CEO AND OWNER OF CENTER LINE STEEL LOCATED AT WEST DAVIS INDUSTRIAL DRIVE.A DELGADILLOS DIGSLY WE OWN THREE OTHER LOTS, ALL IN THAT CENTER CORNER.
I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE SO I APOLOGIZE. I HAVE NO IERDZ AIDES OR ANYTHING. SOME OF MY QUESTIONS ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.
ONE OF OUR CONCERNS WAS THE SECURITY OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. IT DOES HAVE, DITS IT'S GATED AND IT CLOSES AT SEVERANCE NIGHT, AND SO WE HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
IT'S ANSWERED, THANK YOU. BUT PARKING IS A CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IN THAT AREA.
I HAVE 30 EMPLOYEES SO I'M USING ONE OF OUR EXTRA LOTS JUST FOR PARKING.
WE'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED FOLKS PARKING IN OUR PARKING LOT. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WOULD ASK FOR TO YOU CONSIDER. I DON'T KNOW HOW BUSY IT WOULD BE.
I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH THIS. IN THEORY, I WANT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL, BUT I DON'T WITH AN IT TO HARM OUR BUSINESS. -- I DON'T WANT IT TO HARM OUR BUSINESS.
SO THAT WAS KIND OF IT. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU MAY HAVE A SEAT.
>> KYLE COMER. >> IS THAT IT FOR PUBLIC TAKER SPEAKER CARDS?
>> THAT'S IT. >> IF WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP, NOW IS THE TIME YOU CAN RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP AND CAN YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR GLARNG CERTAINLY.
WE HAVE A SHARED PARKING LOT. TWO OF THOSE SPACES ARE DESIGNATED FOR US.
TWO ARE DESIGNATED -- WELL, SEVERAL ARE DESIGNATED AS SHARED SPOTS.
OUR OCCUPANCY WILL ONLY BE -- WE'RE KEEPING IT UNDER 15 PEOPLE SO WE WILL ONLY BE LEGALLY TO HAVE THAT MANY, INCLUDING MYSELF, ON THE PROPERTY AT ANY TIME.
WE ARE NOT EXPECTING TO SEE 15 PEOPLE IN THERE AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
WE'RE KIND OF OFF THE BEATEN PATH RIGHT NOW. I DON'T FORESEE -- I THINK THE LAW OR THE REGULATION REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE X NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS PER PERSON, AND WE'RE WELL WITHIN THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO -- YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES DIRECTLY ACROSS WHEN YOU FIRST COME IN AND YOU MAKE A -- YEAH, WE HAVE MORE PROBLEMS WITH THE OTHER OCCUPANTS IN OUR BUILDING PARKING IN OUR SPOTS THAN WE WILL -- BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE PEOPLE THERE.
THE ONLY PEOPLE WE'VE HAD OUT THERE ARE MY DIRECT FAMILY AND A COUPLE OF REALTORS HAVE COME IN.
WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY REAL VISITORS YET, BUT, OKAY, IF THAT'S A PROBLEM WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT ISSUE IS DEALT WITH.
>> THANK YOU. PUBLIC COMMENTS OR CLOSED. WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY FOR
THOUGHTS, COMMENTS AND A MOTION. PAULA. >> JUST A CORRECTION TO THE MOTION AND ONE OF THE CONDITIONS. SO THE MOTION SHOULD READ THAT IT PRIMARILY PROVES A FLORIDA TYPE DD, CD LICENSE WHICH IS I DISTILLERY LIQUOR, CRAFT DISTILLERY AND TOAL ROW HOW ON-SITE AND OFF-SITE CONSUMPTION OF THAT TYPE OF LIQUOR AND TO AMEND CONDITION NUMBER 9 TO REFERENCE THE SAME FLORIDA TYPE LICENSES, WHICH IS DD, CD.
>> UNDERSTOOD. BACK IN THE AGENCY. THOUGHTS?
COMMENTS? MOTIONS? >> I MOVE WE WERE APPROVE.
>> YEAH, I DLIKD YEAH, I. SORRY. >> MR. HILLS DISEN BECK.
>> I MOVE WE APPROVE. >> LET'S PUT SOME MORE MEAT ON THAT BONE.
MOVE THAT WE APPROVE BASED ON PAULA'S COMMENTS FOR THE CHANGE IN THE VERBIAGE FOR DD AND CD?
>> YES. IT'S FLORIDA TYPE DD, CD LICENSE.
I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT, WITH THE ON-SITE CONSUMPTION AND OFF-SITE CONSUMPTION RELATED TO
THE DD, CD LICENSE. >> SO THE ONE MAKING THE MOTION AGREES TO THAT?
NOD YOUR HEAD YES. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
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SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLIES. WE WILL COME BACK FOR THOSE SAMPLINGS THAT WE WERE PROMISED.
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ITEM NUMBER 2, MS. COOLLY. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR AGAIN. SPEAKING OF ALCOHOL.>> YOUR NEXT ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION IS SPECIAL USE PERMIT 2019-17 FOR THE SHORES LIQUOR LOCATED AT 6810 US-1 NORTH. AND THIS REQUEST IS FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TOAL LAO HOW PACKAGE SALES OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES UNDER THE REGULATION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA TYPE 4 KOPF QUOTA LICENSE AND IT WOULD BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORE. IT'S LOCATED AT 6810 US-1 NORTH, AS A STATED.
THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IN THAT AREA IS MIXED USE. AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS COMMERCIAL GENERAL WITH OPEN RURAL TO THE EAST AND ACROSS US-1 AS WELL AS SOME COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA TYPE 4 KOPF QUOTA THRONES ALLOW FOR PACKAGE SALES FOR OFF-SITE CONSUMPTION ONLY OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES INCLUDING BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A STATEMENT PROPOSING THE EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORE WILL CONTINUE IN OPERATION WHICH IS CURRENTLY APPROVED WITH A 2APS WHICH ALLOWS FOR BEER AND WINE SALES ONLY PACKAGED FOR RETAIL SALE OFF-PREMIS. THE APPLICANT WISHES TO INCREASE THE BEVERAGE LICENSE TO, INC. AT ANY RATE LIQUOR SALES AS WELL. THE APPLICANT COMPLIES WALL APPLICABLE CODE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 20302 INCLUDING SEPARATION BETWEEN SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES.
THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY. YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH IT ON THE CORNER OF STOKES LANDING ROAD AND US-1 KNOWN AS CORNWELL'S.
THERE'S THE DOLLAR GENERAL. THE NEW DOLLAR GENERAL ACROSS TO THE SOUTH.
AND THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN THAT WAS SUPPLIED. BASICALLY THE INTERIOR THE STORE IS GROWING TO REMAIN THE SAME. THEY'RE JUST GOING TO ADD THE SHELVING HERE FOR THE LIQUOR THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY OTHER ITEMSE STATE BEVERAGE LICENSE WOULD BE ALLOWED AS PART OF THE RETAIL COMPONENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORE. THE APPLICANT HAS CONFER THAT NO ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPOSED UPGRADE.
THE APPLICANT ALSO WISHES TO INCORPORATE OFF-SITE CATERING IN THE FUTURE WHICH WOULD BE PERMITTED WITH THIS TYPE OF LICENSING. THE PROPOSED UPGRADE AND LICENSE SERIES ASSOCIATED WERE THE EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORE PERMITTED NCG ZONING CAN BE GRANTED WITHOUT SUBSTANTIAL DETRIMENT TO THE PUBLIC GOOD AND WOULD NOT SUBSTANTIALLY IMPAIR THE PURPOSE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE INCOMPAT YOU WILL BE WITH THE SURROUND CAN ORE AND WILL NOT HAVE SURROUNDING ON JEABTS USES OR ON ANY COMMUNITY FACILITIES OR SERVICES.
THE REQUEST IS SUBMITTED DOES REQUIRE YOUR SPECIAL USE APPROVAL HERE, AND IT DOES COMPLY AS STATED WITH ALL REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS OF ARTICLE 2 ON THE CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE HAVE RECEIVED NO LETTERS FOR PHONE CALLS REGARDING THIS AND WITH THAT WE FIND IT GENERALLY MEETS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT EXPOAD YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDED WITH EIGHT FOUNDINGS AND FL 2 CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL AND SEVEN FINDING FOR DENIAL. I WILL CIEWLT TO YOUI WILL CALLU SPECIFICALLY CONDITION NUMBER 2 WHICH STATES THE APPLICANT AGREES THAT NO ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION WILL BE PROVIDED.
WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IF WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT STEP FORWARD, PLEASE>> HELLO I'I RESIDE AT EAST PAVEL RAIN
ST. AUGUSTINE FLORIDA. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT PRESENTATION OR
TELL US MORE ABOUT IT? >> SO RIGHT NOW IT'S A CONVENIENT -- ON ITS A GROCERY STORE. IT'S BEEN THERE ABOUT 70 YEARS. OVER THE YEARS, AS YOU SEE, DOLLAR GENERAL OPENED RIGHT NEXT TO IT AND A PUBLIX OPENED IN VALENCIA, SO THERE'S THE GROCERY
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STORE IS NOT DOING GOOD SO I JUST WANT TO CONVERT IT TO A DIFFERENT USE TO MAKE THEBUSINESS VIABLE. >> DID YOU BRING ANY SAMPLE AS WELL AS THE LAST APPLICANT? [LAUGHTER] JUST KIDDING. OKAY.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? DR. HILLSENBACK.
>> I NOTED IN ATTACHMENT 1, WHICH IS THE APPLICATION AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS, THE VERY FIRST PAGE THERE'S AN EMAIL IN THERE BETWEEN, I ASSUME IT IS YOU AND JUSTIN KELLY WITH THE COUNTY STAFF. AND YOU STATE YOU WANT TO PLACE A 4 KOPF QUOTA LICENSE WHICH ALLOWS ON/OFF PREMISE CONSUMPTION. I ONLY PLAN TO OPEN A LIQUOR STORE AND DO OFF-SITE CATERING FOR NOW. I JUST WANT ON-PREMISES TO BE APPROVED, ALSO FOR THE OFF-SITE CATERING AND A FUTURE BAR EXPANSION.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING HERE? >> OKAY.
SO THE BAR EXPANSION WILL NOT HAPPEN BECAUSE THE ZONING DOESN'T ALLOW IT AT ALL EVEN BY EXCEPTION. BUT THE REASON FOR THE 4 KOPF IS IF I DO YAF SITE CATERING WHEN I HAVE A 4 KOPF LICENSE, FLORIDA STATE HAS TWO PRICING STRUCTURES, ONE FOR OFF-SITE AND ONE FOR ON-SITE, AND WHEN WE DO CATERING WE CAN GET SPECIAL PRICING ON ON-SITE WHICH WE CAN
USE FOR IT CAERING EVENTS. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ARE FOR THE APPLICANT? I SEE NONE. YOU MAY HAVE A SEAT.
DO WE HAVE IN PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS? >> NO.
>> WE ARE BACK IN THE AGENCY. THOUGHTS, COMMENTS OR A MOTION. MR. WAINWRIGHT.
>> BASED ON THE LAST POINTS, DO WE NEED TO MODIFY A MOTION AND FILE FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE TO
MODIFY IT? >> NO. THE MOTION IS CORRECT AS STATED.
THERE'S KIND OF A DISCREPANCY AS MR. PATEL STATED BETWEEN THE TYPE OF LICENSE YOU GET FROM THE STATE AND THE APPROVAL YOU GET FROM THE COUNTY, SO WE ARE FOCUSING ON ZONING.
WHILE THEY DO HAVE A 4 COP QUOTA LICENSE WHICH IS USUALLY IN CONJUNCTION WITH A FULL STAND ALONE R, ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE THEY CAN ONLY OPERATE ON FOR A PACKAGED LIQUOR SALES, SO THE PURPOSE IS TO TAKE THAT FLORIDA STATE LICENSE AND BE ABLE TO CATER AND IT ALLOWS YOU TO DO ON-SITE CONSUMPTION ON ANOTHER SITE. BUT THIS FUTURE LAND SUES AND ZONING DISTRICT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE TYPE OF STAND-ALONE BAR THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY SEE IN
MORE EXTENSIVE LAND USES AND ZONINGS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DR. MCCORMACK. >> YEAH, WELL, BASED ON WHAT ALL YOU HAVE ANSWERED IN RESPONSE TO
THE LAST QUESTION, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> PLEASE DO.
>> UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. NO?
>> PLEASE DO. >> A MOTION TO APPROVE SPECIAL USE PER MAJ 219-17 SHORESLY, AT 6810 US-1 NORTH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW PACKAGE SIZES -- SALES OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES UNDER RELATION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, TYPE 4 COP/QUOTA LICENSE IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORE LOCATED WITHIN COMMERCIAL GENERAL, CG SWOANG CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 2.03.02 OF THE LANDS DEVELOPMENT CODE, SPECIFICALLY LOCATED AT 6810
US-1 NORTH, SUBJECT TO 12 CONDITIONS. >> SECOND.
>> AND EIGHT FINDINGS. >> THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE EIGHT FINDINGS, DR. MCCORMACK?
THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE EIGHT FINDINGS OF FACT IN. >> AND THE FINDING OF FACT.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. ITEM NUMBER 3, MR. KELLY. HOW ARE YOU?
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>> I'M DOING WELL. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON.
>> IS YOURS LIQUOR? >> UNFORTUNATELY, NO. >> SO GOOD AFTERNOON, AGENCY MEMBERS. FORLTS RECORDS JUSTIN KELLY, GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
I'LL BE PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 32019-HUR TAWDZ OH MOBILE HOME.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A MANUFACTURED MOBILE HOME AS A RESIDENCE IN RS3 ZONING PURSUANT TO SECTION 20308 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
PROVIDED IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WHICH IS LOCATED ON BRUIN STREET WEST OF
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NORTH ORANGE STREET. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED RESIDENTIAL D ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY RS 3.AS MENTIONED, THIS APPLICATION IS SEEKING SPECIAL USE APPROVAL TO ALLOW FOR THINGS IS EVER THRAIRCHTION NEW MOBILE MOMENT APPROXIMATELY 1,036 SQUARE FEET. ACCESS TO THE SITE WILL BE PROVIDED BY A DRIVEWAY ALONG BRUIN STREET. WATER WILL BE PROVIDE BY THE CITY OF ST. AUGUST SEEN AND SEWER PROVIDE BY A PRIVATE SEPTIC SYSTEM.
STAFF REVIEW THOSE THAT THE LOT WAS PLATTED AS A PART OF UNIT 2 OF THE DNC TRACK SUBDIVISION IN 1926. THE LOT MARKERS APPROXIMATELY 2 AREAS, AND IS 50 FEET IN WIDTH.
PURSUANT TO LDC SECTION 100302G1 THE LOT IS CONSIDERED A NON-CONFORM LOTS OF RECORD SINCE IT WAS PLATTED BEFORE THE ADOPTION OF CURRENT CODES. THIS EXEMPTS THE LOTS FROM MEETING THE MINIMUM LOT AREA AND MINIMUM LOT WIDTH REQUIREMENT FOR RS 3 ZONING AS WELL AS SUPPLEMENTAL ZONING FOR LOTS THAT ARE GOING TO SUES PRIVATE ACCEPT SEPTIC HELPS SECTION 20301 OF THE LAN DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES DESCRIBE GENERAL PROIFSZ FOR SPECIAL USE OF MOBILE HOMES AND SOME OF THESE PROVISIONS HAVE BEEN PROVIDE IN PART HERE.
SO THIS PROPOSED MOBILE HOME, IT CAN BE GRANTED WITHOUT DEBT TROIMENT PUBLIC AND WITHOUT IMPAIRING THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THE DOM MANY COMP PLAB POR LDC.
THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND FLOFT WHY I NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PROPOSE USES. THE PROPOSED USE DOES COMPLY WALL REGULATIONS OF RS 3 ZONING AND RESIDENTIAL LAND USE, DESIGNATION FOR A NON-CONFORM LOT OF RECORD.
FINALLY THE APPLICANT HAS SAID ALL TOWING WILL BE REMOVED AND EXTERIOR SKIRTING WILL BE INSTALLED AROUND THE MOBILE HOME. PROVIDED HERE SITE PLAN SHOWING THE PROPOSED LAY OUT OF THE MOBILE HOME IN ADHERENCE TO ALL REQUIRED DESIGN STANDARDS.
AND THIS IS A COMPATIBILITY MAP SHOWING THE LOCATION OF OTHER MOBILE HOMES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. A SIMILAR REQUEST WAS APPROVED BY THIS AGENCY IN NOVEMBER OF 2019 FOR 201907 WHICH IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH ALONG NORTH CLAY STREET.
STAFF DID RECEIVE EMAIL IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PRPSD PROPOSED PROJECT AND WE RECEIVED THAT YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. I BELIEVE THE AGENCY WAS PROVIDED THIS CORRESPONDENCE BEFORE THE HEARING. OVERALL STAFF FIENTDZ THAT THE REQUEST SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THE & COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND HAS PROVIDE THE AGENCY WITH 11 CONDITIONS AND FIVE FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL AS WELL AS FIVE FINDING FOR DENIAL.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION AND STAFF WILL STAND BY FOR ANY EXPWERKS I
BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. >> THANK YOU.
IF WE WERE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT STEP FORWARD, PLEASEG. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
>> NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THEN IF YOU'D LIKE ADD ANYTHING TO THAT
PRESENTATION. >> MY NAME IS MARIA HURTADO. I CURRENTLY NO LONGER RESIDE AT THE 1060 OLD DIXIE HIGHWAY CURRENTLY RESIDING AT THE HOLIDAY INN IN VILLAGE.
AND THE FIRST TIME WREAF HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS. I'M NOT SURE REALLY.
>> DO YOU CARE TO ADD ANYTHING MORE TO THAT PRESENTATION FROM JUSTIN? ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I SEE NONE. PLEASE HAVE A SEAT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER
CARDS? >> NO. >> AND NO QUESTIONS FOR THE
STAFF, EITHER. WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY, THEN. >> I MOVE WE APPROVE.
>> DR. HILLS ENDBECK, THAT IS BASED ON THE SUGGESTED 11 CONDITIONS AND FIVE FINDINGS AS
PROVIDED IN THE REPORT. >> I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO READ THAT, BUT YES.
YES. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES ANIMALS. ITEM NUMBER 4. MS. COOLLY, DID YOU FIS MISS T
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YOUR BREAK THERE? >> YES, MR. CHAIR, BUT IT WASN'T A LONG ENOUGH NAP, UNFORTUNATELY. MY FINAL ITEM FOR YOUR DISCUSSION TODAY IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 WHICH IS ZONING VARIANCE 2019-29. MICHAEL LIKELY AT 3270EAU SIENNA
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ROAD. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR ZONING VARIANCE TO SECTION 20204B4 TOAL OUT FOR THE EAVE HEIGHT OF AN ACCESS IS I RUSS STRUCTURE TO EXCEED THE MAX MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL EVE HEIGHT OF THE MAIN NEW TRUCH. THE PROPERTY IS LOOK AT THE 3270EAU SIENNA ROAD. THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IN THAT AREA THE RESIDENTIAL B.AND THE RURNT ZONING IS RESIDENTIAL MOBILE HOME SURROUNDED BY OPEN RURAL WITH A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH. THE APPLICANT STATES THAT THEY INTEND TO CONSTRUCT A 40 BY 50 GARAGE/STORAGE ACCESSORY BUILDING WITH 12 BY 12 DOORS, AND THE STRUCTURE WILL HOUSE THE APPLICANT'S PERSONAL VOTE AND R RV.
THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED STATES THE MAIN USE BUILDINGS HAS A HEIGHT OF 16 FEET WITH A 9-FOOT EAVE AND THE HEIGHT OF PROPOSED BUILDING IS SHOG AN 18-FOOT BUILDING HEIGHT WITH A 14-FOOT EAVE HEIGHT. THE APPLICANT STATES THAT THERE ARE SEVER SIMILAR STRUCTURES IN THE AREA. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED.
YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE EXISTING HOME. THERE IS A DRAIN FILL BACK HERE IN THIS AREA. THIS IS WHERE THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE WILL BE.
THEY DO HAVE AN ACCESS OFF OF OLD TIME AVENUE. AND WHEN I DID A SITE -- LOOKING AT THE APPLICATION, THERE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE ANY BUFFERING.
THEY DIDN'T SHOW ANY TREES ON THIS. THAT'S WHAT CONCERNED STAFF.
HOWEVER, WHEN I MADE A SITE VISIT, WHICH I'LL SPEAK OF IN JUST A MOMENT, IT DOES CONTAINED SOME VEGETATION. AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE AERIAL MAP HERE, THERE ARE TREES IN THE AREA HERE. AND IT WAS ALSO STAFF'S OPINION THAT DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION, WHICH APPEARS TO BE RIGHT HERE, AND I'LL LET HIM CONFIRM THAT, HE WOULD NOT BE IMPACTING ANYONE AS THIS HOME SITS WAY BACK AND THERE ARE TREES THAT BUFFER BETWEEN THE TWO AS WELL.
I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT FOR YOU. SECTION 20204B REQUIRES THAT PLIEFT TBRAWDGES AND STORAGE BUILDINGS BE ACCESSORY IN SIZE TO THE MAIN USE AND THE MAXIMUM EAVE HEIGHT SHALL BE NO GLEARNT THE EAVE HEIGHT OF THE MAIN USE STRUCTURE UNLESS IT CANNOT BE VIEWED FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE BY EITHER DISTANCE OR SCROANG, SO THAT'S WHERE THE SCREENING COMES INTO PLAY HERE. IT WAS UNCLEAR BY THE SITE PLAN IF ANY SCREENING WAS CURRENTLY IN PLACE AND WOULD MEET THAT REQUIREMENT, SO A SITE VISIT BY STAFF REVEALED THAT OONG USINA THERE ARE TREES THAT MAY ACT IT'S A VISUAL BUFFER. HERE ARE SOME OF THE PHOTOS I TOOK. THIS IS LOINGS STRAIGHT AT THE HOUSE FROM USINA.
THIS IS ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE APPLICANT'S LOT, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THE BUILDING WILL BE PLACED SOMEWHERE ABOUT HERE. YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE SOME TREES THAT WOULD ADD TO SOME VISUAL BUFFERING. AND THIS IS CLOSER TO THE CORNER OF OLD TIME, WHICH YOU CAN SEE THE TREES THAT ARE LOCATED THER THERE. IN THIS SERIES OF PHOTOS THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON USINA. THIS ONE HERE IS SECONDARY DRIVEWAY WHICH COMES RIGHT OFF OF OLD TIME ROAD. YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE SEVERAL TREES IN THIS AREA.
THIS IS AN EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT I'M ASSUMING IS GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED.
THE APPLICANT CAN CONFIRM THAT. AND THIS IS LOOKING FROM THE CORNER, WHICH YOU CAN SEE THAT'S THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CONSIDERED A CORNER LOT, WHICH REQUIRES ADDITIONAL SETBACKS, AND THE APPLICANT IS ABLE TO MEET ALL REQUIRED SETBACKS AS NOTICED ON THE SITE PLAN. IT DOES CONTAIN TWO ACCESS POINTS, AS I STATED.
FIRST IS LOCATED ON USINA ROAD WHICH ACCESSES THE RESIDENCE AND A SECONDARY ACCESS POINT OFF OF OLD TIME AVENUE WHICH I AM ASSUMING WILL ACCESS THE GARAGE, AND AS STATED, THE APPLICANT CAN CONFIRM THAT. ALTHOUGH STAFF DOES NOT FIND A HARDSHIP WITH THIS REQUEST AS OUTLINED IN THE DEFINITION FOUND IN ARTICLE 12, SHOULD THE AGENCY FIND SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST, STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE APPROVAL. ADDITIONALLY IT'S STAFF'S OPINION THAT THE REQUEST WOULD IN THE BE DETRIMENTAL TO OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE IMMEDIATE ARE AREA. I'VE PROVIDED THE DEFINITION OF A ZONING VARIANCE IN PART WHERE IT IS A RELAXATION OF THE TERMS OF THE CODE WHERE SUCH VARIANCE WILL NOT BE CON RARE TO PUBLIC INTERESTS BY REASON OF THE EXCEPTIONAL NARROWNESS, SHALLOWNESS OR UNUSUAL SHAPE OF A SPECIFIC PIECE OF PROPERTY OR BY REASON OF EXCEPTIONAL TOP GRAPHIC CONDITIONS OR OTHER EXTRAORDINARY SITUATION OR CONDITION OF SUCH PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
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THE LITERAL ENFORCEMENT OF THIS CODE WOULD CAUSE UNDUE HARDSHIP TO CARRY OUT THE SPIRIT AND PURPOSE OF THE CODE, AND THAT THE VARIANCE WOULD NOT BE CONTRARY TO PIRT SPIRIT AND PURPOSE OF THIS CODE. IN THIS CONTEXT PERSONAL, FAMILY OR FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES, LOSS OF PROFITS, NEIGHBORING VIOLATIONS OR HARDSHIPS CREATED BY ANY ACT OF OWNER ARE NOT CONSIDERED HARDSHIP JUSTIFYING A VARIANCE. SPHAF HAS RECEIVED NO CORRESPONDENCE OR PHONE CALLS REGARDING THIS APPLICATION. AND WITH THAT, AS A STATED, STAFF FINDS THAT IT SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS.IT DOES NOT MEET THE DEFINITION OF A HARDSHIP. HOWEVER, SHOULD THE AGENCY FIND SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE, YOU ARE BEING PROVIDE WITH FIVE FINDINGS AND SEVEN CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL AND FOUR FINDINGS FOR DENIAL, AND ONCE AGAIN I'M AVAILABLE AND THE APPLICANT IS
ALSO AVAILABLE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. COOLLY.
CAN WE HAVE THE APPLICANT STEP FORWARD, PLEASE. HELLO.
MIEB NAME IS LIKELY "LIKE" LI 372 BOSS I CAN WITH CIRCLE. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD
ANYTHING TO THAT PRESENTATION? >> NO, SIR. SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
THERE ARE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BUFFERS THERE. IS IT YOUR INTENTION TO KEEP ALL THE VEGETATION AROUND THE PRIM THE ORE USINA ROAD AND OLD TIME AVENUE?
>> ALL THE BIG TREES WILL BE REMAINING. WE WILL BE CLEARING SOME OF THE AREA THERE THAT HAS EXISTING CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT IS OVERGROWN WITH VINES TO REPLACE
IT WILL WITH CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT ENT WON'T BE DILAPIDATED. >> ANY NEW LANDSCAPING GOING IN
THERE IN TERMS OF SHRUBBERY? >> NOT AGAINST THE FENCING. QUEENT WANT THAN THE IT TO BE
OVERTAKEN WITH VINES AGAIN. >> WHAT'S THE BUILDING GOING TO BE?
IS IT A METAL BUILD? >> YES, FROM AIRLINES HANDY HOUSE IT'S ONE OF THE TUBING BUILDINGSIES THAT'S METAL GARAGE WERE GARAGE DOORS PAINTED. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO A GRAY
AND WHITE ROUTE. >> DOES THE EXISTING STRUCTURE THERE GET DEMOLISHED?
>> THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IS A LITTLE 12-BY-12 RUBBERMAID LIKE CLICK-TOGETHER SHED THAT'S GETTING REMOVED, AND THEN THE OTHER STRUCTURE THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THAT IS A 12-BY-I THINK IT'S 12-BY-20 HANDY HOUSE FROM USINA AND WILL BE RELOCATED MORE THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE WITH PERMITS PULLED THROUGH THE COUNTY FOR THE REORGANIZATION AND RESTRAPPED TO THE GROUND TO
>> OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
MR. HILLSENBECK. >> I NOTICED WHEN YOU CAME UP TO SPEAK, YOU GAVE A DIFFERENT ADDRESS THAN THE ADDRESS OF THIS PROPERTY AND THAT'S STATED ON THE APPLICATION FORM.
DO YOU NOT LIVE ON THIS PROPERTY? >> NOT CURRENTLY.
WE JUST STARTED RENTING IT. WE GOT A HOUSE IN ROYAL GOLF VAIJTS 372 BOSS WICK CIRCLE WHICH HAS AN HOA AND YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO KEEP BOATS OR RVS ON THE PROPERTIES.
>> THANKS. >> DR. MCCORMACK. >> THE ISSUE THAT I WITH AN TO BRING UP WITH THE AGENCY ACTUALLY IS THE STAFF'S STATEMENT THAT THIS PROPERTY -- THAT THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT SHOW ANY HARDSHIPS. AND I THOUGHT HARDSHIP I WAS CONDITION IF WE WERE GOING TO MAKE A ZONING VARIANCE, THAT IT WOULD BE BASED PROBABLY TO A LARGE EXTENT ON WHETHER OR NOT THE REQUEST WAS COMING FORTH BECAUSE OF A HARDSHIP
REQUIREMENT. I DON'T SEE ANY. >> PAUL, IF YOU COULD.
>> AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY BASED ON THE MATERIALS THAT STAFF WAS GIVEN AND BASED ON SITE VISITS.
STAFF IS OF THE OPINION THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANYTHING UNIQUE ABOUT THE PROPERTY.
THE HOUSE, WHICH KIND OF IS WHAT'S THE HEIGHT IS MEASURE IN RELATION TO, WAS BUILT IN 2018
BY -- WAS IT BUILT BY THE APPLICANT? >> IT WAS BUILT BY ME.
>> RIGHT. SO THAT HAS THE EAVE HEIGHT OF NINE TO TEN FEET.
SO A HARDSHIP FOR THAT WOULD JUSTIFY SOMETHING LIKE THIS WAS IT'S AN OLD HOUSE WITH DISTINCT FLORIDA STYLE WITH A LOWER EAVE HEIGHT THAT IS NORMALLY REQUIRED ON SOME TOP GRAPHIC THINGS A WOULD NECESSITATE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE HAVING A HIGHER EAVE HEIGHT.
NOW, I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THESE HEIGHT LIMITATIONS ONLY APPLY IF THE STRUCTURE IS NOT FULLY SCREENED FROM VIEW, SO IF THE STRUCTURE IS ACTUALLY SCREENED THROUGH OPAQUE FENCING
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OR THROUGH LANDSCAPING, WE WOULDN'T HERE, WOULDN'T NEED A ZONE VARIANCE.JUST MAKE SURE IT'S NOT VIEWABLE FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE. THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ACCESSORY USE THAT ARE BEFORE THE AGENCY TO CONSIDER.
WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THE PROPERTY THAT CAUSES THE EAVE HEIGHT OF STRUCTURE TO BE PROPOSED 13 TO 14 FEET AND IS THERE SOMETHING THAT PREVENTS THE FULL JEENG OF THE ACCESSORY -- SCREENING OF
THE ACCESSORY VUCH. >> THANK YOU. PAOLO.
SATISFIED, BILL? DR. HILLSENBECK. >> DIDN'T I READ NOTHING IN THE APPLICATION MATERIALS THAT THERE ARE OTHER STRUCTURES LIKE THIS PROPOSED STRUCTURE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE THAT TALL? IS THAT CORRECT OR AM I CONFUSING THAT WITH ANOTHER ITEM? BECAUSE I CAN'T FIND IT RIGHT NOW.
>> IF THE APPLICANT COULD ADD TO THAT. >> IN THE DESCRIPTION WHEN I WROTE THE APPLICATION, I HAD STATED THAT THERE ARE. AT THE TIME I WASN'T AWARE THAT I GUESS THE OTHER PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ZONED OR AND OUR LITTLE PLOT IS RMH, AND SOME OF THEM -- THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT PEOPLE HAVE RVS UNDER ON THE RMH, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE IN THE OR, WHICH DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME ZONING, I GUESS, REQUIREMENTS.
>> THANKS FOR AN HONEST ANSWER. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I SEE NONE. PLEASE HAVE A SEAT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS? WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY, THEN. THOUGHTS? COMMENTS? OF THE OF THIS SIDE'S BEEN QUIE. MR. WAINWRIGHT.
>> I'D OFFER A MOTION TO APPROVE 2019-29, REQUEST FOR A ZONING VARIANCE TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 2.02.04. B.4 TO ALLOW FOR THE EAVE HEIGHT OF AN ACCESSORY USE STRUCTURE TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM EAVE HEIGHT OF MAIN USE STRUCTURE IN RESIDENTIAL MANUFACTURER/MOBILE HOME RMH ZONING, SPECIFICALLY LOCATED AT 3270 USINA ROAD AND SUBJECT TO SEVEN CONDITIONS AND FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF RECORD. AND I DO SO BECAUSE I THINK THE DIFFERENCES IN HEIGHT ARE NOT OVERWHELMING, AND I THINK THIS IS AN AREA WHERE THERE'S A
CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SCREENING, SO THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC UGLY THING. >> VERY GOOD.
WE HAVE A MOTION. MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION IS APPROVED. MOVING ON.
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ITEM NUMBER 5. MR. SMITH. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, AGENCY MEMBERS. JAKE SMITH, PRESENTING AGENCY NUMBER 5.
MINOR MODIFICATION 2019-16 FOR THE VICK RESIDENCE. IT IS A REQUEST FOR A MINOR MODIFICATION TO THE HONEY BRANCH ESTATES PLANENDS RULE OF DEVELOPMENT TO RECONFIGURE THE DEVELOPMENT AREA OF LOTS 6 AND 7. THE PARCELS ARE LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDES OF COUNTY ROAD 208 WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY TWO MILES TO THE WAS OF THE INTERSECTION OF 208 AND COUNTY THREENDZA. IT IS ALL RURAL AGRICULTURAL LAND AND IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THAT HONEY BRANCH ESTATES PRD, ADJACENT TO OPEN RURAL AND ANOTHER PLANNED RURAL DEVELOPMENT. AND LASTLY AN AERIAL MAP OF THE TWO COMBINED LOTS.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO MODIFY THE PMD MATCH AND HONEY BRANCH NORTH TO RECONFIGURE THE DEVELOPMENT AREA OF LOTS 6 AND 7. THE PROPOSED RECONFIGURATION REMOVES 10,000 SQUARES FEETS OF DEVELOPMENT AREA FROM LOTS 7 AND UTILIZE TEST ADDITION OF THAT SAME AREA ONTO LOT 6. THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO DEVELOP A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON LOT 6 AND UTILIZE THE REST OF THE PROPERTY AS RESERVE AREA. UP HERE IF A MAP OF THE HONEY BRANCH ESTATES PRD. CIRCLE DOLLARS ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE ARE LOTS 6 AND 7.
IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT THAT THE BLACK SQUARES ON THIS MAP ARE THE DEVELOPMENT AREAS ALLOTTED TO HOMES AND THE WHITE SPACE ON THE MAP IS WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED RESERVE AREA.
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AND JUST A BRIEF REVIEW, WITHIN A PLANNED RURAL DEVELOPMENT AREA IS DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY FOR RESIDENTIAL USES AND RESERVE AREA IS DEDICATED FOR TYPICAL RURAL AND AGRICULTURAL USES.LOTS WITHIN THE HONEY BRANCH ESTATES RP.RD EVE CONSISTS OF 10,000 FEETS OF DEVELOPMENT AREA AND THE REMAINING ACREAGE OF THE LOTS ARE DESIGNATED RESERVE AREA.
THIS MODIFICATION WILL CREATE A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT OF DEVELOPMENT AREA ON LOT 6 AND REMOVE ALL DEVELOPMENT AREA FROM LOTS 7. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A UPDATED MDP MAP FOR THE RESPECTIVE LOTS. I'VE GOT HIGHLIGHTED WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT AREA OF LOT 7 HAS BEEN REMOVED. AND YOU CAN SEE THE CENTER SQUARE ON THE RIGHT-HAND LOT HAS BEEN BASICALLY DUBLEDZ IN SIZE TO 20,000 SQUARE FEET.
ALL THE STRIPED AREA INDICATES THE RESERVE AREA. AND THE APPLICANT ALSO PROVIDED A SITE PLAN MAP SHOWING THEIR SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH A EXTERNAL GARAGE, POOL, ET CETERA ON THERE. AND JUST A BIT OF STAFF ANALYSIS, THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT AREA OF HONEY BRANCH ESTATES IS 10% OF THE OVERALL AREA OR ABOUT SIX ACRES, AND 90% OF THE PRD OR ABOUT 55 ACRES IS DEDICATED TO RESERVE. THE PROPOSED MINOR MODIFICATION TO THE PRD WILL NOT ALTARS THE OVERALL AVAILABLE RESERVE OR DEVELOPMENT AREAS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. AND LASTLY, THE MODIFICATION WILL REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ALLOWABLE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITHIN THE PRD FROM AN EXISTIG 12 UNITS TO A TOTALS OF 11 UNIT UNITS. STAFF HAS RECEIVED ONE PHONE CALL OF INQUIRY AND NO LETTERS OF CORRESPONDENCE REGARDING THIS APPLICATION. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF MINOR MODIFICATION 2019-16 FOR THE VICK RESIDENCE BASED ON SIX CONDITIONS AND FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT. STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF OF COMP PLAN, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE PRD REGULATIONS OUTLIENDZ THE MPD. THE REQUEST DOES TO THENOT APPEAR CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST, COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING LAND USES AND STAFF HAS NO OPPOSITION TO THE EXISTING PROPOSAL. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, AND THE APPLICANT
IS PRESENT AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. IF WE WOULD COULD HAVE THE AT
STEP FORWARD, PLEASE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> BRIAN VICK, CURRENTLY RESIDE
AT 401 LAKE MONROE PLACE 31292. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT PRESENTATION?
>> I THINK IT'S PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY. >> BASICALLY TAKING THE
DEVELOPMENT AREA FROM ONE LOT AND PUTTING IT ON THE OTHER. >> I'M SORRYSOME.
>> YOU'RE BASICALLY TAKING THE DEVELOPMENT AREA FROM THE SECOND LOT AND PUTTING IT ONTO THE
FIRST LOT. >> THE PRIMARY REASONING BEHIND THAT IS OUR NEW DEVELOPMENT PLAN DOES EXCEED 10,000 SQUARE FEET. THE REASONING BEHIND THAT IS PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE DRIVEWAY. THE DRIVEWAY IS OVER 6,000 SQUARE FEET.
THE DEVELOPMENT SQUARE FOOTAGE IN ITSELF, WHICH IN RETURN PUTS US TO 13,000 DEVELOPMENT SQUARE FEET. SO YOU MOVE THAT DRIVEWAY OUT OF THERE RESIDENTIAL-WISE WE'RE JUST OVER 6600 VAIR AREA. SO BY DOING THAT, WE DID PURCHASE BOTH LOTS WITH THE INTENTION OF ONE HOUSE USING BOTH LOTS. WE HAVE NO INTENTION ON SELLING THE OTHER LOT FOR FUTURE USE. IT DOES NOT AFFECT ANYTHING AS OUR HOA, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE COMBINING FROM A 12 HOUSE RESIDENTIAL AREA TO 11. WE STILL DO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OF BOTH LOTS FOR OUR DUES FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. AND OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S PRETTY
SELF-EXPLANATORY. >> DR. HILLSENBECK, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
>> AND TBHIRS STARTED READINGS AGENDAS I'M I WAS HOPING YOU WERE PUTTING YOUR LOUSE ON THE NOTHER LOT FURTHER AWAY FROM HONEY BRANCH BUT YOU'RE NOT, SO I JUST WONDER WHERE YOUR SEPTIC DANK AND DRAIN FIELD ARE GOING TO BE GLOACTD WE'VE ALREADY PERMITTED THAT SO THE LOCATION OF OUR SEPTIC TANK AND DRAIN FIELD IS FAR ENOUGH OFF OF THE OFFSET AREAS, AND THAT PERMIT ALREADY HAS BEEN APPROVED. THAT WAS DONE PRIOR TO US MOVING THE HOUSE INTO THE LOCATION THAT
IT BEGAN THE MINOR MOD TO BEGIN WITH. >> THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MR. WAYNEWRIGHT.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFFT. NET OUT WITH THESE TWO LOTS, THE RESERVE AREA IS MAINTAINED WITH
RESPECT TO THESE TWO LOTS. >> THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. >> AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS
THERE WERE NO WAIVERS IN QUESTION, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THERE ARE NO WAIVERS
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ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. >> THANK YOU. >> VERY GOOD.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS?
>> YES, WE HAVE ONE. MS. LUCY STRONG. MS. STRONG, WHEN YOU GET UP HERE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND THE CLOCK WILL
START. >> YES. I'M LUCY STRONG.
LIVE AT 72 HONEY BRANCH LANE. I AM A BOARD MEMBER FOR THE HOA, AND WE JUST WANTED SOME
CLARIFICATION, IF I CAN ASK MR. VICK. >> IF YOU CAN ASK US, HE'LL
RESPOND BACK. >> OH. SO THE SEC LOT, WE WERE -- SECOND LOT IT MENTION THAT HAD HE WAS GOING TO KEEP BOTH LOTS, SO THAT MEANS THAT THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE PARCELS WILL REMAIN. THE PARCEL NUMBERS WILL REMAIN FOR EACH LOT, SO THAT WAS ONE QUESTION. AND I THOUGHT I HEARD HIM SAY HE WAS GOING TO SELL THE OTHER LOT
OR MAYBE I JUST DID NOT HEAR THAT CORRECTLY. >> I HEARD DIFFERENTLY BUT WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT STEP FORWARD AND HE CAN CLARIFY THAT ARE TO YOU.
>> THAT IS REALLY IT. WE JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION ON THE COMBINED TWO LOTS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE HE ANSWERED THAT, BUT THEN I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT LAST PART.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF YOU COULD CLARIFY THAT FOR EVERYONE'S RECORD.
>> AS FAR AS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE LEFT, IDENTIFIED IS A LOT 6, LOT 7, I'M NOT UP TO SPEED ON HOW THAT IS DONE WITH THE COUNTY, BUT MAYBE I THINK WHERE SHE'S GOING WITH TO MAKE SURE AS FAR AS OUR ASSOCIATION DUES, WE ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR TWO LOTS, AND THAT IS CORRECT, WE
ARE. AND THE SECOND QUESTION WAS? >> ARE YOU INTENDING TO SELL.
>> INTENDING TO SELL. NO, THERE'S ABSOLUTE NO INTENTION TO SELL THE SECOND LOT. THE PROPERTIES, BOTH LOTS WERE PURCHASED WITH THE SITE PLAN AND HOUSE PLACEMENT AND PLAN, SO IT ONLY WORKS HAVING BOTH LOTS COMBINED AS ONE.
>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
>> PAUL P.A.L. OH. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION.
THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PLATTED, SOL DESCRIPTION IS LOT 6 AND LOT 7 OF THIS SUBDIVISION.
UNDER OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WE DO ALLOW FOR THE RECONFIGURATION OF PREVIOUSLY PLATTED LOTS SO LONG AS YOU MEET ALL OF THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS. IF YOU WANT TO CANINE TWO LOTS TOGETHER TO MAKE ONE SUPER LOT, YOU DON'T NEED TO GO THEREON A REPLATING PROCESS.
NOW, WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT PARCELS, USUAL THAT'S DESIGNATED BY THE PROPERTIES APPRAISER.
THE COUNTY HAS NO CONTROL OVER THE DESIGNATION FOR A APPRAISAL BIERPS THE PROPERTY APPRAISER SO YOU COULD HAVE A LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF TWO LOTS UNDER THE SAME PARCEL I.D.
SO JUST BE AWARE THAT IF YOU CLICK ON RGI'S WEBSITE, IT MAY SHOW UP AS ONE PARCEL I.D. BUT
IT'S TWO SEPARATE LOTS. >> UNDERSTOOD. MR.
>> YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST HAD A QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO TRANSFERABILITY BECAUSE I SEE THE FIRST ONE IT SAYS IT WILL BE TRANSFERABLE. COULD THE SECOND OWNER I WHO BUYS THE PROPERTY, COULD HE SILT SEPARATELY? HOW DOES IT WORKING WITH ACCEPT
RA BUILT. >> THE COUNTY DOES NOT REGULATE THE BUYING AND SELLING OF LAND, PSYCHO SELL A POSTAGE STAMP TO SOMEONE. WHAT WE DO REGULATE IS IF SOMEONE WHO BUYS THE LOT THAT DOES NOT HAVE DEVELOPMENT AREA ON IT, THEY CAN'T PULL A BUILDING PERMIT, THEY CAN'T PUT A HOUSE ON THERE. THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS AGENCY, GET ADDITIONAL ENTITLEMENTS TO PUT THAT LOT OR DO THE SAME PROCESS, FILE A MINOR MODIFICATION, AND RECONFIGURE THE DEVELOPMENT AREA TOW HAVE A DEVELOPABLE PARCEL.
SO THEY CAN BUY AND SELL THE PROPERTY FREELY, AND THE REASON WHY IT'S TRANSFERABLE IS BECAUSE THIS IS AMENDING THE ZONING MAP ESSENTIALLY THAT DESIGNATES HOW THIS PROPERTY WILL BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE. YOU CAN BUY AND SELL ANY FORM OF PROPERTY, BUT YOUR ABILITY TO
PULL THE PERMIT IS UP TO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE. >> DR. MCCORMACK.
>> I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. >> PLEASE DO.
>> THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE MINIMUM MODIFICATION, MINOR MODIFICATION TO THE HONEY BRANCH ESTATES PRD ON THE OTHER HAND 205-83 TO RECONFIGURE THE REQUIRED DEVELOPMENT AREA BY CON BIKING LOTS 6 AND 7 FOR A TOTAL COMBINED DEVELOPMENT AREA OF 20,000 SQUARE FEET.
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>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. MR. CAN YOU HIT YOUR BUTTON AGAIN.
THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. GOT YOUR LOT. ITEM NUMBER 6, MR. KELLY AGAIN.
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>> THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE AGENCY. JUSTIN KELLY, GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
I'LL BE PRESENTING AGENDAS ITEM NUMBER 6 VOANG 1920Y 19--22 BOB'S STORAGE LOT.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO RED ZONE APPROXIMATELY 3 ACRES OF LAND FROM OPEN RURAL TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE. PROVIDED THERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF SUBJECT PROPERTY WHICH IS ROACTD ON STATE ROAD 207 SOUTH OF EAST ST. JOHNS AVENUE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LANDS USE DESIGNATION OF MIXED USE. AND IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED OPEN RURAL. AS MENTIONED, THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 3 ACRES TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR PAY PROPOSED RV BOAT STORAGE AND PERSONAL PROPERTY MINI WAREHOUSE FACILITY. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A LONG-TERM PLAN TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTIES. FIRST AS AN RV BOAT STORAGE FACILITY, THEN ONCE PROPER INFRASTRUCTURE IS INSTALLED, A PERSONAL PROPERTY MINI WAREHOUSE FACILITY.
THE PROPOSED FACILITY WOULD CONSISTENT OF A 320 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE, SEVERAL CLIMATE CONTROLLED SELF STORAGE BUILDINGS, AND 10-FOOT BY 20-FOOT SHIPPING CONTAINERS THAT WILL BE USED FOR MORE INDUSTRIAL TYPE STORAGE. THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN SHOWING SPHWENDZ FINAL LAYOUT OF THE FACILITY. STAFF WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE SITE PLAN IS NOT APPROVED AS A PART OF A REZONING REQUEST AND THAT ANY SITE PLAN IN COMBINATION OF ALLOWED USES IN CI WOULD BE ADD YOU WILL LOWD IN APPROVED.
ARRIVED HERE SIGH TABLE SHOWING THE TYPES OF USE CATEGORIES THAT WOULD BE PER KNITTED CI ZONING.
THE REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH A FUTURE LANDS DESIGNATION OF MIXED USE, AND THE REQUESTED CI ZONING WOULD ALSO PER IN IT TYPES OF USES THAT ARE PROPOSED. THE PROPOSED REZONING WOULD ALSO ELIMINATE ONE OF THE MORE INTENSE USES THAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN OPEN RURAL ZONING WHICH IS PINE MINING AND EXTRACTION. PROVIDED ON THIS SLIDE IS A EXATS A BITTEL MAP SHOWING THE LOCATION OF OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THIS IS AN AREA WHERE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES ARE BEING CONCENTRATED ALONG THIS SECTION OF STATE ROAD 207. STAFF WOULD LIKE TO KNOW NOTE THAT THE ADJACENT PARCEL TO THE WEST IS OPEN RURAL AND IS LISTED AS VACANT RESIDENTIAL IN USE, HOWEVER, THE NEARBY AGRICULTURAL STORE THAT'S LOACTDZ ON PARCEL 3 OH THIS MAP DOES OWN THIS PROPERTY AND IT DOES USE AT A STAGING AREA FOR THEIR EQUIPMENT AND ACCESS TO OTHER PROPERTIES THAT THEY OWN TO THE SOUTH. STAFF HAS RECEIVED -- HASN'T RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE REGARDING THIS PROPOSED REZONING. OVERALL, STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUEST SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF COMP PLAN AND LDC AND HAS FOUR FINDING TO APPROVE OR RECOMMEND DENIAL. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION AND WE'LL STAND BY
FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> IF WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT
STEP FORWARD, PLEASE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
>> MY NAME IS PAUL 'DOGS, ST. JOHNS COUNTY DESCREANT 5185 CYPRESS LINKS BOULEVARD.
32033. >> WOULD YOU CARE TO ADD ANYTHING MORE TO THAT
PRESENTATION? >> I'M SORRY. >> WOULD YOU CARE TO ADD
ANYTHING MORE TO THAT CONVERSATION FROM MR. KELLY? >> JUSTIN DID A GREAT JOB.
FANTASTIC JOB ALWAYS, JUSTIN. >> SO GENERALLY YOU'RE EXPECTING TO USE THAT AS A SURFACE STORAGE
LOT FOR THE TIME BEING? >> YES, SIR. I OWN SOME BUSINESSES IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING THOSE BUSINESSES DOWN HERE TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY, BUT BEFORE I COULD DO THAT, I NEEDED STORAGE AND DIDN'T WANT FOWT ON IT RESIDENTIAL LOTS, SO I WORKED TO FIND SOMETHING THAT I COULD TAKE COMMERCIAL AND DO IT THE PROPER
WAY. >> VERY GOOD. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR
THE APPLICANT? MR. WAINWRIGHT. >> YES.
EXCUSE ME. JUST A MOMENT. FOR BOTH THE APPLICANT AND MR. KELLY, USUALLY ON THESE KINDS OF THINGS, TISSUE COMES E ISSUE COMES UP WITH LIGHT DIMINISHMENT AND HOW MUCH ILLUMINATION GOES OUT TO THE AREA AROUND THE FACILITYCAN YOUT
THAT. >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LIGHTING STANDARDS BOR THE FACILITY AS FAR AS LIGHTS THAT WOULD BE LIGHTING UP THE PROPERTY AT NIGHT?
>> LIGHTING UP THE PROPERTY AT NIGHT IS LESS OF AN INTEREST TO ME THAN PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED,
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OFTENTIMES PEOPLE WHO LIVE CLOSE BY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIGHT OVERFLOWING INTO THEIR BEDROOMWINDOWS OR LIVING ROOMS, THAT SORT OF THING. >> SO IF APPROVED, HE WOULD GO TO A COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION PLAN TO GET APPROVAL ONCE THIS IS APPROVED.
PART OF THOSE COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVALS IS A LIGHTING STANDARD THAT I BELIEVE IT'S .2 CANDLES, THAT CAN BE CONFIRMED, THAT THE LIGHT HAS TO ADHERE TO IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT LIGHT IS NOT SPREADING TO THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES AND INTERFERING WITH ANYBODY OR ANY
RESIDENTS THAT LIVE NEARBY. >> THANK YOU. >> IF I CAN ADD TO THAT, ARCHIE, THE COUNTY HAS A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU CAN'T EXCEED A CERTAIN FOOT-CANDLE, I WANT TO SAY IT'S A HALF OR A QUARTER OF A FOOT-CANDLE AT THE PROPERTY LINE SO YOU DON'T GET ANY OF THAT
BLEEDOVER ANY LONGER. >> DR. HILLSENBECK. >> IT APPEARS ON THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SITE, AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DRIVE OUT THERE BUT I'VE BEEN BY THE MANY TIMES, IT IS APPEARS THAT THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN PLOWED, PERHAPS PRIOR TO THIS PHOTO BEING TAKEN. I JUST WONDERED IF IT WAS CURRENTLY FARMLAND, WHAT WAS
GROWN ON THE PROPERTY, IF YOU KNOW. >> THE ONLY AWARENESS THAT I MAY HAVE, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOD WHERE THEY WERE PULLING SOD OFF OF IT AT SOME TIME.
I DON'T HAVE THAT FOR A FACT BUT THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. I'VE MET WITH ALL THE NEIGHBORS, INCLUDING WITH THE LIGHTING. WE'RE ALL ON BOARD ON WHAT THE PLAN IS, SO --
>> THIS MAY BE A QUESTION MORE FOR STAFF OR COUNTY ATTORNEY, BUT IS THERE ANY SCREENING OR
BUFFERING REQUIRED ALONG 207 FOR THIS PROPERTY? >> THERE WOULDN'T ALONG 207.
HE DOES HAVE A PROPERTY TO THE EAST THAT IS MULTI-FAMILY SO HE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO BUFFERING FELIPE WOULD ALSO BE REQUIRED TO DO BUFFERING TO THE SOUTH.
THERE'S AN AGRICULTURAL USE TO THE SOUTH. HE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO A BUFFER THERE AS WELL. AS I MENTIONED IN MY PRESENTATION, THERE IS A LOT NEXT TO HIM TO THE WEST THAT'S LISTED AS RESIDENTIAL AND IT SAYS THAT IT'S VACANT RIGHT NOW, BUT STAFF'S VISIT TO THE SITE SHOWED THAT IT'S BEING USED BY THAT NEARBY AGRICULTURAL SITE TO STAGE THEIR EQUIPMENT, SO ONCE THOSE COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS COME IN, STAFF WILL DECIDE HAT THAT POINT WHAT KIND OF BUFFER WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE THERE.
>> BUT NOTHING ALONG 207. >> NO. HE WOULD JUST TO HAVE MEET THE
SETBACKS. >> THANK YOU. >> MR. QUEBL IF I CAN ADD TO THAT BE -- KELLY, IF I CAN ADD TO THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST LOUNGE A CHANGING THE ZONING.
WE'VE NOT LOOKING A SITE PLAN. IF IT GOES TO A SULFUR LOT, IT'S MY UNDERSTAND THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME SCREEN THERE. AND I MAY BE WRONG BUT SOME OF OTHER SURFACE PARKING LOTS, WE
HAD THE CHAIN LINK FENCE WITH THE SLATS, AND WE'RE HOPING -- >> MR. CHAIR, MR. SOME LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS THAT DO COME INTO PLAY WHEN YOU HAVE A PARKING LOT ADJACENT, AND THAT MAY BE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. IT'S USUALLY ABOUT A SIX FOOT STANCE OF LANDSCAPING THAT COMES IN WHEN IT'S ADJACENT TO THE ROAD. NOT A BUFFER PER SE, AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY MR. KELLY WASN'T THINKING ABOUT IT. IT'S MORE OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP THAT ENFORCES IT. BUT IF YOU HAVE SEEN ALONG STRAIGHT ROAD 206 THERE'S ONE THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OOP IT'S AN RV BOAT STORAGE AND IT HAS SOME LANDS SCAPING OR JUST OUTSIDE THE FENCE THERE AND OF COURSE IT'S GOING TO BE FENCE WITH IT'S RV BOAT STORAGE.
SO THERE USUALLY IS SOME LANDSCAPING. IT'S JUST WILL NOT THE BUFFERS
AS SUCH IN TERMS OF INCOMPATIBILITY OF BUFFERS. >> MR. CHAIR, IT'S NOT AN INCOMPATIBILITY BUFFER, PER SE, BUT DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF USE, THEY MAY TRIGGER SOME OF HAVE SOME OF OUR OTHER BUFFERING STANDARDS FOR RECREATIONAL VEHICLE AND BOAT STORAGE.
IT SAYS WHEN IT INSTITUTES A BE PRINCIPAL USE, AND THIS IS I. THIS 60604B10.
THE STORAGE AREA SHALL BE SCREENED FROM PUBLIC VIEW AND FROM ALL STREETS OR ROADWAYS AND RESIDENTIALLY ZONE PROPERTIES SCREENING SHALL BE PROVIDE DOLLARS WITH EVER GREEN PLANS SIX FEET IN HIGHLIGHT AT THE TIME OF PLANNING AND 10 OVER YA'LL SCREEN PROCRASTINATES 75 POURS GREATER OR A SOLID WOOD AND POLY VINYL CHLORIDE OR SIMILAR MATERIAL FENCE OR MASONRY OR CONCRETE BLOCK WALL AT LEAST SIX FEET IN HEIGHT. IF THE INMASONNERY OR BLOCK WALL IS PROVIDE IT SHALL BE PLANTED AND FINISHED ON THE OUTSIDE. SO IF THE APPLICANT PICKS THAT PARTICULAR USE, THOSE REGULATIONS APPLY AND, WILL BE DETERMINED FOR COMPLIANCE AT THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN LEVEL. BUT THERE'S NO DIRECT INCOMPATIBILITY BUFFER AGAINST
THE ROAD UNLESS IT TRIGGERS MORE THAN THESE OTHER USES. >> ALL RIGHT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I SEE NONE.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS? >> NO.
>> WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY. IN THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS. MR.LY.
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>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. WE HAVE SEEN QUITE A FEW OF THESE.
I FIND IT TO BE COMPATIBLE AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO OFFER A MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> PLEASE DO. >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 2019-22 BOB'S BOGGS STORAGE LOT FROM COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO ALLOW FOR RV STORAGE, BOAT STORAGE AND PERSONAL PROPERTY, MINI WAREHOUSE USES BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT A PROVIDED IN
THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND GLEEF A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. CARRIES UNANIMOUS.
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ITEM NUMBER 7. >> MS. MAY, HOW ARE YOU TODAY? >> VERY WELL.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SAMANTHA U. CYNTHIA MAY WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, THIS IS THE EXPENSIVE PLAN COMPN AMENDMENT FOR 2019-01 OXFORD ESTATES EAST, AND THIS IS A TRANSMITTAL HEARINGTHE REQUEST - WELL, THIS IS A TRANSMAILT HEARING FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE REQUEST DISO AMEND APPROXIMATELY 32 ACRES ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM RURAL TO RESIDENTIAL B. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATE ON THE EAST SIDE OF LONG LEV BINE PARKWAY AND NORTH OF OX BRIDGE WAY.
THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THAT SITE. IT'S AT THE NORTHEAST OR ACTUALLY NORTHWEST SIDE OF THE EXISTING UNDER CONSTRUCTION OXFORD ESTATES.
THE COMPANION APPLICATION WOULD BE A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO THE OXFORD ESTATES PUD WHICH WOULD BE CONCURRENTLY WITH THE ADOPTION THAT OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THAT COMES AFTER TRANSMITTAL. THE PROPOSAL IS TO EXPAND OXFORD ESTATES PUD TO ADD 32 ACRES FOR APPROXIMATELY 31 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP SHOWS THE OUTLINE OF THIS PROPERTY.
IT IS WITHIN RURAL AGRICULTURE. IT HAS RURAL TO THE NORTH AND EAST.
IT'S ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL B TO THE SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST, AND RESIDENTIAL C TO THE WEST.
SO IF THIS WERE AMENDED, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WOULD EXTEND THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE, AS SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A. IT IS ZONED OR, PUD IS TO THE SOUTH AND WEST.
THE TRANSPORTATION REVIEW ESTIMATED THAT THE PROJECT WOULD GENERATE 31PMP PEAK CAN VERY TRIPS. PROTOCOL WOULD BE SUBJECT TO CONCURRENCY REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE, AND THAT WOULD BE AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION PLANS. LONG LEAF PINE PARKWAY, AND THIS IS THE SECTION FROM ROBERTS ROAD TO VETERANS PARKWAY, IS THE DIRECTLY ACCESSED LINK THAT CURRENTLY OPERATES AT FNT HAVE 78% OF APPROVED PEAK HOUR SERVICE VOLUME, AND THAT WAS DETERMINED IN 2019. THE PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO EXCEED THE APPROVED PEAK HOUR SERVICE VOLUME AT 137% CAPACITY, AND THAT WOULD BE BASED ON TOTAL COMMITTED PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC APPROVED TO DATE WITH THE CURRENT STATUS. JEA PROVIDED A WATER AND SEWER AVAILABILITY LETTER IN 2019 DETERMINING THAT THERE IS SUFFICIENT CAPACITY.
OBJECTIONSFORD ESTATES HAS ADDRESSED THAT THEY HAVE ADEQUATE EXISTING RECREATIONAL FACILITIES TO ACCOMMODATE THE 31 NEW RESIDENTIAL UNITS. AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN FIVE MILES OF A PRIMARY FIRE STATION AND CREDIT I WILL BE WATER SUPPLY.
-- CREDITABLE WATER SUPPLY. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS SEVER MOILSZ THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO AMENDMENTS. THE FIRST IS POLICY A125. THE APPLICANT SHALL JUSTIFY THE DPLEED FOR AMENDMENT AND DEMONSTRATES HOW THE AMENDMENT DISCOURAGES SPRAWL AND DOES NOT AS ADVERSELY IMPACT RESOURCES. THE SECOND POLICY A127 STATES THAT THE COUNTY SHALL ENCOURAGE GROWTH WITHIN DEFINED DEVELOPMENT AREAS, ALREADY HAVING PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SERVICES. AREAS THAT ARE DESIGNATED RURAL SILVA CULTURE ARE OUTSIDE THE DEFINE DEVELOPMENT AREA AND THE APPLICANT MUST DEP STRAIGHT PUBLIC BENEFIT.
THE PROJECT IS WITHIN AN AREA OF THE NORTHWEST SECTOR THAT IS TRANSITIONING FROM RURAL TO SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL NOONDERS. IT'S SURROUNDS BY LAND USE AND OPEN RURAL ZONING TO THE NORTH AND EAST. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY A1.
2.2 DISCOURAGES THE EXPANSION OF DEVELOPMENT AREA UNLESS THE APPLICANT CAN DEMONSTRATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JOB CREATION, PRESERVATION OF NATURAL ENVIRONMENT OR OTHER PUBLIC BENEFIT. THE APPLICANT THAT IS HAS STATED IN THEIR DOCUMENTS THAT THEY
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PROVIDED THAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD PROVIDE THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC BENEFIT.THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE ARE DESIRING TO LIVE AND PROVIDE LONG-TERM HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES. THEY ARE PRESERVING THE MAJORITY OF WETLANDS THAT ARE ON THIS SITE. THE PROJECTED HOME VALUES WOULD OFFSETS THE COST OF COUNTY SERVICES AND FACILITIES. THEY ARE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL B, RESIDENTIAL C AND MIXED USE.
FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATED AREAS WHICH WOULD RESULT IN AN ORDERLY GROWTH PATTERNS OF RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL USES. THEY ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TOED GOO TRANSPORTATION OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS PROXIMITY TO BUSINESSES, SHOPPING AND LEISURE ACTIVITIES BOTH EXISTING IN PROPOSED. IN TERMS OF THE COMPATIBILITY, THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS SHOWN IN THE CENTER OF THE MAP. THERE'S TIMBERLAND TO THE NORTH AND EAST OOR PORTION.
THE OXFORD ESTATES ON THE EAST SIDE IS IS TO THE SOUTH. OXFORD ESTATES ON THE WEST SIDE IS TO THE WEST. AND ABERDEEN PUD IS NORTH OF THAT.
STAFF KNOWS THAT THIS PART OF THE COUNTY LACKS ADEQUATAL 62 CAPACITY WITHIN THE TRAIL AND SCHOOL CONCURRENCY AREAS. THE PROJECT WOULD RESULT IN ADVERSE IMPACTS TO ROADWAY SEGMENTS. THERE ARE CONCURRENCY MECHANISMS IN PLACE TO ADDRESS COOL AND TRANSPORTATION CAPACITY ISSUES BUT THE COUNTY CURRENTLY LACKS ADEQUATE REVENUE RESOURCES TO COMPLETE THE CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT. THE PROJECT'S PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE CONTRIBUTION IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO BE ADEQUATE TO COMPLETE IMPROVEMENTS.
THE FUNDING SOURCES MAY BE IDENTIFIED IN THE FUTURE. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS ARE LEGISLATIVE IN NATURE. THEY ARE A POLICY MAKING DECISION TO DETERMINE THE FUTURE GROWTH PATTERNS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. A DETERMINATION OF SCIFTSY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVING P COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND STATE LAW AND APPROVAL OR DEFINITELY AN AMENDMENT MUST NOT BE ARBITRATOR AND CAPRICIOUS, AND THE TYPES OF INFORMATION, EVIDENCE AND DOCUMENTATION THAT MAY BE CONSIDERED IS BROADER FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THAN THE COMPETENT, SUB STABLE EVIDENCE REQUIRED FOR A QUUS QUASIA JUDICIAL HEARING.
TRANS MILGT HEARINGS ARE REQUIRED TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE PROPERTIES FOR THOSE THAT ARE OVER TEN AREAS, IN SIZE AS WELL AS ANY AMENDMENTS PROPOSED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES. A RECOMMENDATION TO TRANSMIT IS REQUIRED FROM THE AGENCY TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WHO WOULD TAKE THE FINAL ACTION. TRANSMITTAL MEANS THAT THE AMENDMENT WILL BE SENT TO THE STATE REGIONAL AND ADJACENT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, AND THIS IS FOR A 30-DAY REVIEW AND COMMENT PERIOD. AND ONCE THAT PERIOD IS OVER AND THE COMMENTS ARE COMPLETED, THE ADOPTION HEARINGS WOULD BE SCHEDULED.
THERE WAS A NORTHWEST SECTOR COMMUNITY MEETING HELD ON JANUARY 9TH OF 2020.
IN ADDITION TO STAFF AND THE APPLICANT'S TEAM THERE WERE FOUR RESIDENTS IN ATTENDANCE.
THE RESIDENTSED ASK ABOUT OXFORDS ESTATES AND THE RECREATIONAL STILLS EXCELS THE ROTS THE FROT DISMOARTSDZ EAST. STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADDITIONAL CORNS OR OTHER INQUIRIES IS. IF THE AGENCY FINDS THE PROJECT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SPECIFICALLY POLICIES A125 AND A127, STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD TO TRANSMIT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 2019-01 FOR OXFORD ESTATES EAST BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OR OTHER RELEVANT INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO STAFF AND OTHER EVIDENCE AND MATERIALS RECEIVED DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'M AVAILABLE FOR COMMENTS, AND
I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. >> THANK YOU MUCH, MS. MAY.
>> HI. NATE DAY. SWEET 7 JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA.
I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF FEW QUICK SLIDES TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW THIS FITS INTO OXFORD ESTATES. GENERALLY, OXFORD ESTATES IS ALREADY A 289 UNIT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ON BOTH SIDES OF LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY THAT SURROUNDS DOLLARS ONFORD ESTATES IS UNDER ONE SORIANO SHIP JOE HEELO.
THIS PORTION TO THE NORTH IS U. THERE ACRES BUT IT'S ABOUT 15 ACRES OF UPLAN, THE MAJORITY OF IT IS WETLAND. IT'S A LANDLOCKED PORTION OF UPLAND THAT IF WE DON'T BRING IT INTO YOUR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, THE ONLY WAY FOR THIS TO BE DEVELOPED INTO THINKING NOTHING IS I SEPARATE ACCESS OFF LONGLEAF PARKWAY FOR A SMALL 15 PEFS WETLAND SO WE HAVE AN EXISTING LIFT STATION ON SITE OF, WE HAVE AMENITIES ON IN PLACE.
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WE HAVE A PRIVATE ROADWAY. NETWORK HAS BEEN PLATTED. IT'S PART OF THE OXFORD ESTATES SUBDIVISION. AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PULL THIS LAST LITTLE 15 ACRES SO IT CABE PART OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT CAN BE ACCESSED INTERNALLY BY THE ROADS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE BE BE SERVICE BOOED THE LIFT STATION AND WATER THAT'S ALREADY THERE.IT WOULD HAVE ITS OWN CURB CUT. AND OTHER ISSUES THAT IN MY OPINION HOWARD FOREMAN NOT BE AS ACCEPTABLE. THERE'S NOT AN INTENTION FOR OXFORD ESTATES TO GROW ANY BIGGER THAN THIS. WE DON'T HAVE CAPACITY OR IN OUR LIFT STATION HONESTLY TO DO ANYTHING MORE THAN THIS LITTLE ADDITION THAT WE'RE DOING. SO THE INTENTION IS TO JUST ADD THIS, AMEND THE PUD, AND THAT WOULD BE SORT OF THE END OF WHAT OXFORD ESTATES WOULD LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD. REAL QUICK, IS THERE WAY I CAN -- SO I JUST BROUGHT A FEW PICTURES SINCE IT ALREADY A DEVELOPED NEIGHBORHOOD. A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE COMP PLANS, THEY'RE THEORETICAL. THIS WRUN IS MAJORITY BUILT OUT.
SO YOU CAN GET AN IDEA OF THE ENTRY. IT'S PRIVATE AND GATED.
THE RECENT HOME SALES THAT WE HAVE HAD ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD, WE'RE AVERAGING OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS PER HOME. THIS IS A VERY NICE HIGH END OF NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S CLEARLY ONE THAT THE VALUES ARE GOING TO OFFSET ANY POTENTIAL COSTS THAT MIGHT BE ASSOCIATED WITH IT. BRAND NEW AMENITY CENTER WITH A POOL AND FACILITIES ATTACHED TO IT THAT WILL ALL SERVICE THESE LOTS THAT ARE GOING IN AS WELL. AND THEN THIS HERE, I DON'T KNOW INITIATIVE YOUR PACKET OR NOT BUT THIS IS A MAP OF OXFORD ESTATES ON THE EAST SIDE SO THERE'S 132 UNITS THE ON WEST SIDE THAT YOU DON'T SEE HERE. THIS IS THE 157 -- MY MATH IS BAD -- ON THE EAST SIDE. TO THE NORTH I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE LAYERS LASER HERE. SO RIGHT UP HERE IN THE NORTH, THIS CUL-DE-SAC IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE EXPANDING AND ADDING THIS PORTION THAT YOU SAW THAT WE HAVE A COMP PLAN ON, AND THEN THIS IS THE LAYOUT OF WHAT THE LOTS WILL LOOK LIKE. SO THIS CALLED SACK WILL GO AWAY AND 31 LOTS WILL BE ADD DOLLARS HERE WITH THE STORM WRAWRT MANAGEMENT LOCATED WHO THE ROAD INSTEAD OF INTERNAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THAT'S THE PLAN.
CLEARLY WE'LL BE COMING BACK THROUGH FOR ACCEPTANCE ALONG WITH THE PUD THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO REVIEW AT THAT TIME AS WELL. BUT MY HOPE IS THAT YOU WOULD SEE THAT THIS IS A GOOD USE FOR THIS SMALL PORTION OF UPLANDS TO BE ADDED INTO OXFORD STATES INSTEAD OF LEFT LINGERING FOR SOME OTHER USE DOWN THE ROAD. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
>> LET'S SEE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? DR. HILLSENBECK.
>> YEAH, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. IT'S STATED IN THE APPLICATION THAT THIS 32-ACRE PARCEL IS PART OF A LARGER PARENT TRACT THAT IS GOING TO REMAIN AS SUCH INTACT. JUST WONDERED IF YOU KNEW HOW LONG THAT INDEED MIGHT REMAIN AS A UNDEVELOPED PARENT TRACT, AND IF SO, DO YOU THINK THERE WOULD BE A CONSERVATION EASEMENT PLACED OVER THAT PROPERTY THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT IT REMAINS IN
RURAL SILL VEL RAGGIO CULTURE IN. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PIECE OF LANDS THAT'S OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN?
>> YES. I'M REFERENCING WHAT I READ IN THE APPLICATION, YOU SAID IT WAS
PART OF A LARGER PARENT TRACT. >> MY UNDERSTANDING AND STAFF MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS, IS THAT THERE IS SOME APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE LARGER JOSEPH HEELO HOLDINGS THAT'S OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW, MIKE, IF YOU'RE AWARE.
>> THIS IS AN APPLICATION. I BELIEVE IT WAS IN PRE-APPLICATION STATUS.
I DON'T THINK THE NORMAL APPLICATION BEYOND THAT. THERE HAVE BEEN MEETINGS WITH THAT DEVELOPER WHICH IS A VERY LARGE TRACT HAVE COME IN. THAT'S WHERE IT STANDS.
>> IT'S ABOUT 4,000 ACRES, I THINK, OR ROUGHLY THAT JOSEPH HILLO OWNS.
I KNOW HIS ANNA NICOLE SMITH BEEN SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL POCKETS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PROBABLY SEEN AND KNOW MORE ABOUT THAN HONESTLY I DO. AT SOME POINT MY ASSUMPTION IS THE E. USE OF THAT SURROUNDING AERIAL WILL BE SOME SORT OF MIXED COMMERCIAL/RESIDENTIAL BOUT A LARGER APPLICATION SCALE. THIS IS A PIECE THAT WE'RE SORT OF CARVING OFF AND JUST MAKING A
PART OF OXFORD SO THAT IT'S PART OF THIS NEIGHBOR. >> SO THERE ARE SOME POTENTIALLY
LARGE SCALE PLANS DOAFL THAT PARENT PARCEL. >> YES, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING
AND MY GUESS. >> I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION, YOU BUT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ANYWAY. IS THERE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT AT ALL TO THIS
DEVELOPMENT? >> NO. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS, YOU KNOW,
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ALL FAIRLY SIMILAR IN SIZE. WHEN WE DID THIS NEIGHBORHOOD A LONG TIME AGO, THE PUSH WAS TO KEEP IT TWO UNITS PER ACRE, LARGER LOTS. THEY WANTED -- IT WAS PRIVATE AND GATED AS A PLUS AND PUSH IN WORKING WITH THE STAFFING AND THE COMMISSION AT THE TIME.SO IT IS LARGER LOTS. AS SUCH, THE PRICE POINT TENDS TO
TO BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. >> ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU NOW. I'LL HAVE SOME OTHER GENERAL COMMENTS. BUT YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS.
BUT THERE WAS A NICE VIEMPLAL REPORT THAT ACCOMPANIED THIS -- ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT THAT ACCOMPANIED THIS APPLICATION DUTY IT DID NOT STATE ANYTHING ABOUT AQUIFER RECHARGE, AND IN THE COMP PLAN AND IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IT STATES THAT CIVIL A CULTURAL LANDS AND OTHER LANDS, NATURAL FUNCTIONS ARE IMPORTANT, INCLUDING AQUIFER RECHARGE AND FOR THIS AREA, I'M SPECIFIC TALK THE SURFICIAL AQUIFER, IN THE ENVIRONMENT AP PLAN IT MENTIONED NOTHING ABOUT AQUIFER RECHARGE, AND GROUND WATER RECHARGE, AND I LOOKED AT VARIOUS MAPS AND OTHER AFFIDAVIT, AND THIS AREA APPEARM POTENTIAL FOR AQUIFER RECHARGE. COULD YOU ADDRESS WHAT THIS NEW
DEVELOPMENT MIGHT DO TO THAT. >> HONESTLY, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT THERE'S ANY PLAN OR ANYTHING THAT I COULD SPEAK OF SPECIFICALLY HERE AS TO WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING.
THAT'S THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF THAT AS A POTENTIAL. I'M HAPPY TO TALK WITH STAFF TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT OPEN OPTIONE ARE AND GET MY ENGINEER INVOLVED.
THE WETLANDS AROUND US, I THINK IT'S 18.4 ACRES OF WETLANDS, THOSE WILL ALL BE CON SEVERED ON THE PLAT AND PART OF THE DISTRICT PERMITS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE TOUCHING THOSE SUBSTANTIALLY. BUT THERE'S NOT A -- AS FAR AS AN ACTIVE RECHARGE COMPONENT, THERE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING BETWEEN NOW AND THE TOOPTION I'VE HAD TO ANSWER BETTER FOR
YOU. >> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? DR. MCCORMACK.
>> YOU MENTIONED. HOW MANY HOME UNITS DO YOU HAVE IN OXFORD PUD THAT ARE APPROVED?
>> SO CURRENTLY IT'S APPROVED FOR 289. >> TOTAL.
>> TOTAL UNITS. >> AND HOW MANY ARE ALREADY -- DO YOU ALREADY HAVE HOMES ON?
>> SO THE ENTIRE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD WAS 132 UNITS.& THAT'S BUILT.
>> THAT'S BUILT. >> AND THE BUILDERS ARE GONE. THEY'RE NOW ON THE EAST SIDE.
I KNOW THE PHASE WE RECENTLY DEVELOPED AND PLATTED LAST YEAR HAD 57 UNITS.
THOSE ARE -- THERE MAY BE FIVE OR SIX LEFT THERE THAT THEY HAVEN'T SOLD BUT THOSE FOR THE MOST PART BUILT OUT, SO WE'VE GOT ANOTHER 100 ROUGHLY LEFT THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AND ARE ABOUT TO BE DEVELOP. I MEAN, THIS IS A YEAR AND A HALF OR SO DOWN THE ROAD, BUT IT
WOULD BE THE END OF THOSE DEVELOPED LOTS. >> SO ALTOGETHER PROBABLY ABOUT
105 OR 110 OR SO ARE PERMITTED BUT NOT BUILT YET. >> HOMES WILL BE 132 PLUS ROUGHLY 50. SO PROBABLY 180 HOMES ACROSS THE ENTIRE THING.
>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE -- >> I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER ISSUE -- THE OTHER ISSUE I HAVE IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BOTH THE ROADS AS WELL AS THE SCHOOLS.
THERE IS EITHER CURRENT DECISION EFFICIENCY OR THERE WILL BE. -- DEFICIENCY.
EVEN IF THIS SMALL DEVELOPMENT IS BUILT OUT, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THE-O OXFORD NEIGHBORHOOD HAD A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL SCHOOL AND ROAD CONCURRENCY PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD TO ENTER INTO THAT WE ARE STILL PAYING EVERY TIME WEEP PLAT LOTS AND GET ENGINEERED LOTS.
WE STILL TO HAVE WRITE A CHECK TO THE COUNTY FOR ADDITION OF NEW STUDENT STATIONS AND FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT WE'RE HAVING TO YUF SET. I KNOW WHEN WE BRING THESE IN FOR CONSTRUCTION PLAN AND PLAT, WE'LL HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING,.
>> INTO A PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE AGREEMENT AND OFFSET THOSE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES FOR NEW STUDENT STATIONS. AND THAT'S WHAT WAS CURRENTLY DONE ON THE PREVIOUS ONE, WAS WE ENTERED INTO A PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE AGREEMENT TO YUF SET THAT DEFICIENCY.
>> DONE? ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? DO YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS? ALL RIGHT. BACK IN AGENCY. THANK YOU.
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COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? MR. WAINWRIGHT.WE'VE HAVE WE HAVE A COUPLE UP HERE. LET'S GO THROOF HAVE SOME OF THESE FIRST. MEG PANN MS. PERKINS, RATHER. MR. HILLSENBECK.
COMMENTS OR A MOTION? >> COMMENTS. I'M EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF SCHOOL CAPACITY, AND I UNDERSTAND, YES, YOU'RE PAYING FUNDS INTO CONCURRENCY TYPE FUNDS, YOU BUT IT'S STATED IN THE APPLICATION AND IN THE STAFF PRESENTATION THAT THERE'S STILL NO IDENTIFIED OR ADEQUATE FUNDING SOURCE, BOTH FOR SCHOOL AT BARTRAM TRAILS, WHICH IS AT CAPACITY. THERE'S NO FURTHER CAPACITY TO ANNAL THIS.
AND THEN THE ROAD CAPACITY, WHICH IS PROJECTED SOON TO BE OVER ROAD CAPACITY, LIKE AT 139%, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT IS VERY CONCERNING TO ME. IT'S ALSO STATED IN HERE "IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES INFILL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN DEVELOPMENT AREAS." IT'S POLICY A.1.2.2 AND DISCOURAGES COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS ON LANDS EDITION NATHAN URAL SYLVIE CULTURE OR AGRICULTURE.
SO THOSE ARE CONCERNING TO ME AS WELL AS THERE'S NO NEIGHBORLY OR WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT AND I DO WANT TO STATE THAT I ASKED COUNTY STAFF IF THEY COULD TELL ME HOW MANY PERMITTED OR PLATTED LOTS ARE UNBUILT ON RIGHT NOW THAT ARE APPROVED, PERMITTED OR PLATTED LOTS THAT ARE APPROVED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE NUMBER IS FAIRLY ASTOUNDING.
59,354 LOTS ARE CURRENTLY PLATTED OR PERMITTED BUT NOT TO BE DEVELOPED YET, AND THAT SEEMS LIKE A VERY HIGH NUMBER. AND I'LL HAVE TO SAY, PEOPLE THAT I HAVE TALKED TO IN THE LAST TEN YEARS SINCE WE MOVED BACK TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY, MY WIFE WAS BORN HERE, ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THEY SEE AS RAMPANT GROWTH IN THIS COUNTY, AND I JUST DON'T SEE THAT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, GIVEN COMP PLAN ADMONITIONS AND THE LACK OF CONCURRENCY, WHICH I SEE YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS WITH SCHOOLS AND ROADS, AS WELL AS SOME MORE HABITAT BEING LOST IN RURAL SILLVI CULTURE REALLY WARRANTS THIS, AND I WOULD SAY THAT IN TERMS OF PINE FLAT WOODS AND SILLVI CULTURAL LANDS, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PROPERTY IS, WHILE PINE FLAT WOORDZ NOT ONE OF THE SIX SPECIAL NATURAL COMMUNITY TYPES RECOGNIZED WITHIN THE COUNTY IN THE COMP PLAN, I WISH THEY WERE, AND I WISH THIS BODY OR SOMEONE ELSE WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT PROPOSAL ON THAT, AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF PUSHBACK AND I DON'T EXPECT THI& TO HAPPEN, BUT WOULD MAKE PIPELINE FLAT WOODS A SPECIAL COMMUNITY.
THE REASON BEING IT'S ONE OF THE MOST NATURAL COMMUNITY TYPES WITHIN FLORIDA.
IT'S A MATRIX NATURAL COMMUNITY THAT ALL THE OTHER DIFFERENT KINDS OF COMMUNITIES ARE EMBEDDED IN. IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR WILDLIFE HABITAT, FOR WATERSHEDS. PINE FLAT WOODS ARE THE MAIN COMMUNITY THAT ACTUALLY COLLECTS, STORES, SLOWLY RELEASES WATER, AND RECHARGES. IT'S NOT THE PRIMARY RECHARGE COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR GROUND WATER REPLENISHMENT. AND I JUST DO NOT LIKE SEEING MORE INTACT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A PINE PLANTATION, YOU'RE ECOLOGIC REPORT DOES INDICATE THERE ARE ENOUGH SPECIES OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY COMPOSITION AND STRUCTURE THAT THIS IS AN INTACT AND RECOGNIZABLE MESIC FLAT WOODS COMMUNITY WITH EMBEDDED WETLANDS, WHICH I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO PRESERV ON-SITE, BUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNING TO ME.
AND I'VE HAD NO DIRECT EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION CONCERNING THIS ITEM.
JUST TALKING TO PEOPLE. AND THIS RUNS THE GAMUT FROM THE MOST COULD I HAVE THE PEOPLE I KNOW TO THE MOST LIBERAL THAT I KNOW THAT ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT GROWTH IN THE COUNTY AND THAT IT SEEMS TO BE RAMPANT. AND JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF PERMITTED AND PLATTED LOTS, I WOULD SAY IN MY VIEW THAT THAT'S THE CASE. SO I MAY HAVE SOME MORE COMMENTS BUT I'M GOING TO STOP SO YOU CAN ADDRESS THOSE. THANK YOU.
>> TO THE CHAIR, DO YOU MIND? >> YOU'RE BACK UP, APPARENTLY. GO AHEAD.
>> JUST REAL QUICK. ON THE SCHOOL, THIS IS FIRST I HEARD WHERE ENTERING INTO A
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PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE AGREEMENT AND IT WORST CASE SCENARIO PAYING OVER $20,000 A STUDENT STATION WASN'T ADEQUATE ENOUGH TO BUILD NEW STOOL SCHOOL STATIONS.MY ASSUMPTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT IF THERE'S A DEFICIENCY AND YOU OFFSET IT BY SUPPLYING THE FUNDS NEEDED TO CREATE NEW STATIONS, THAT THAT WAS ADEQUATE FUNDING.
I KNOW THERE'S AB AN ISSUE BUT I KNOW THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY HAS BEEN DOING WHAT THEY CAN TWO THE IMPACT FEE AND CONCURRENCE TOW HELP OFFSET THAT. YOUR POINT ON THE INFILL JUST REAL QUICK, I KNOW THAT IT'S SPECIFICALLY SAYS TO DISCOURAGE THE CHANGING OF RURAL SYLVIE CULTURE. THIS LARGER PIECE OF LAND THAT'S OUT THERE AND WHERE IT'S LOCATED AT SOME POINT IS GOING TO BE AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD DEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING.
I THINK LOSING THE CHANCE TO TAKE THIS PORTION HERE RIGHT NOW AND BRING IT A PART OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT IT CAN JUST FLOW IN FROM WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEING DEVELOPED WILL MEAN THAT AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH HARDER, CREATE MORE TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF THE CONNECTION ONTO LONGLEAF PINE, AND NOT BE SOMETHNG THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED AS NICELY.
I'M JUST SPEAKING THIS ABOUT THE SORT OF 15 ACRES THAT'S SORT OF LANDLOCKED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REALLY CONNECT IT IS FROM EVERYTHING NORTH OF IT. SO WHILE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENT ON THE INFILL AND THAT THIS IS RURAL SYLVIE CULTURE IT IS A LAND USE THAT HAS DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NEXT TO IT THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS A PART OF WITHOUT HAVING TO PUT A MAJOR STRAIN ON SOME OF THE OTHER SERVICES AND TRANSPORTATION THAT WE HAVE ON LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY. THE BUS STOP'S ALREADY THERE SO THE KIDS ARE ALL USING THE SAME BUS STOP. THERE'S NO OTHER FACILITIES THAT HAVE WOULD BE CREATED FOR IT.
AND SO I WOULD JUST SAY CONSIDER IF YOU DON'T ALLOW THIS IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO AT SOME POINT
BE USED IN A LESS EFFICIENT, LESS DESIRABLE WAY. >> THANK YOU.
>> MR. WAINWRIGHT. >> THIS IS A SMALL, RELATIVELY SMALL SITE.
NO, I DON'T THINK THAT. IT IS. IT'S INFILL.
INFRASTRUCTURE IS STRAINED. THEY ARE PAYING INTO FUNDS. THE TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION HERE AND THE SIZE AND PRICE FIT IN WHAT WASTE GOING ON IN THAT N THAT AREA.
I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE RAMPANT GROWTH. I DON'T THINK THIS PROJECT CONTRIBUTES TO RAMPANT GROWTH. LARGER ONES DO. SO I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A POSITIVE INFILL. I THINK THAT IT'S A LOT BETTER HERE THAN OFF IN THE BOONDOCKS. IT REQUIRES SURROUNDING AREA TO DEVELOP.
>> THANK YOU. DR. MCCORMACK. >> WELL, IN RESPONSE TO ARCHIE'S COMMENTS, I FEEL JUST THE OPPOSITE, AND I FEEL THE OPPOSITE FOR I. THE PRIMARY REASON IS THERE'S A HUGE BLOCK OF LAND THAT ADJOINS THIS. THAT'S COMING DOWN THE ROAD.
AND I IMAGINE WE'RE GOING TO DO A TRANSMITTAL FOR THAT TOO AT THAT TIME.& I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPENING FOR THE MANY REASONS THAT RICHARD HAS ALREADY EXPRESSED. SO I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE. IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A VOTE ON
THIS, I'M GOING TO VOTE TO DENY. >> THANK YOU. MR. LANDLELL.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND I WANTED TO ASK MAYBE STAFF& WHEN WE SEE THESE PROJECTS, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING 31 ADDITIONAL HOMES. DOES THE SCHOOL BOARD PROVIDE ANY NUMBERS AS TO HOW MANY ADDITIONAL STUDENTS THAT WOULD GENERATE?
>> I'M SURE THE APPLICANT, ESPECIALLY DR. MCCORMACK AS A SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE HERE WILL STATE, SCHOOL BOARD DOES NOT DO A FORMAL ANALYSIS UNTIL CONFERENCE PLAN A ADOPTED BY THE COUNTY. SOMETIMES IF NICOLE COULD HAVEAGE WHO IS A ONE-WOMAN ORGANIZING IS NOT BUSY, SOMETIMES SHE WILL GIVE YOU A LETTER SAYING THIS IS MAYBE WHAT YOUR PAYMENT IS AND THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS GENERATED BASED ON THE CONCURRENCY AREA AND WHAT YOUR PROX PAYMENT IS. THAT'S JUNES KIND OF THE PAYMENT STRUCTURE.
I THINK FROM A POPULATION STAND IDENTITY. ON THE COUNTY'S END WE DO 2.44, BUT THE STUDENT GENERATION IS BASE DOLLARS ON WHATEVER BLAKS BOX THAT THEY HAVE AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND BASED ON THE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY AREA AND MAYBE JENN -- NO, SHE DOESN'T KNOW.
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IT'S IN THE SCHOOL BOARD, AND THEY'VE GOT A FORMULA, THE NUMBER OF UNITS BASED ON TYPE OF HOUSE, HOW MUCH IT IS, SCHOOL CONCURRENCY AREA, THAT TYPE OF THING.>> OKAY. AND I KIND OF HEAR A LOT OF THE SAME COMMENTS THAT DR. HAD PRESENTED ABOUT THE RAPID GROWTH, ESPECIALLY BEING BORN AND RAISED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.
IT'S GROWN QUITE A BIT. BUT I ECHO ARCHIE'S COMMENTS ABOUT THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULAR. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS KIND OF THE -- THE COMMENT MIKE OFTEN SAYS, WE'RE FILLING IN THE DOUGHNUT HOLE HERE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
I FIND THIS PROJECT TO BE IN PARTICULAR COMPATIBLE AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
>> MR. MADDAVINA. >> NUMBER ONE, I BELIEVE THE COMMERCIAL AREA DOESN'T AT THE CORNER OF LONGLEAF AND GREENBRIER IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT. IT'S CLEARED AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A PUBLIC GOING IN THERE WHICH MEANS PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY WOULD EITHER BE ABLE TO WALK OR BIKE TO A GROCERY STORE. IT'S THAT CLOSE.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO CALL SOMETHING INFILL, EVEN THOUGH IT'S RURAL SYLVIE I WOULD SAY THIS IS INFILL. THE. THEN I WOULD SAY WE'VE GOT THIS 4,000 ACRES NEXT DOOR THAT WE'RE PROBABLY WORKING ON A DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON, AND IF THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS NOT APPROVED, SINCE THIS IS THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER, WOULD ENTAIL A ROAD CROSSING THAT WETLAND THAT'S NOW PROPOSED TO BE PRESERVED, AND THEN PERHAPS HIGHER DENSITY LOTS ON THIS LITTLE 15-ACRE PLOT TO PAY FOR THAT WETLAND CROSSING.
THAT WOULD BE MY TWO CENTS ON THIS ONE. >> THANK YOU.
I'LL PUT IN MY TWO CENTS AS WELL. I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF 15 AREAS, ACRES AND GETTING HOMES OUT OF ONES WE HAVE SEEN.
IT'S PIGGY BANG ONTO THE CURRENT COMMUNITY. SO I THINK IT'S THE BEST OF ALL WORLDS IN DOING THIS AND I WOULD SUPPORT IT. I WOULD SAY A CUCH OTHER THINGS.
I AM -- A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS. I AM A CONCERNED CITIZEN ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH AND THE ROAD CAPACITY AND SCHOOL CAPACITY, BUT 31 HOMES IS NOT GOING TO BREAK ANY CAMEL'S BACK IN AT THIS POINT IN MY OPINION. THESE WERE, AND I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR 30 YEARS BULL I I. I FEEL THAT'S A LONG ENOUGH TIME. THESE WERE ALL CALLED PINE FIELDS WHEN I WAS HERE AND THEY WERE NOT PRISTINE PROPERTY, AND I HAVE PRESERVED MY PROPERTY, BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN EVERY WHATEVER 20 YEARS YOU SEE THESE THING MOWED DOWN TO NOTHING, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THE WILDLIFE DEALS WITH ALL THAT, BUT IT'S BASICALLY A FARM OF PULP.
SO I SEE IT A DIFFERENT WAY THERE. BUT I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.
I THINK THIS IS JUST TOO SMALL TO HAVE THEYS LARGER CONVERSATIONOVER.
IF IT'S 1,000 OR 2,000 HOME COMMUNITY, THAT MERITS A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF DISCUSSION.
DR. HILLSENBECK. >> THOSE ARE ALL EXCELLENT POINTS.
I JUST HAPPEN TO DISAGREE WITH THEM. BUT I THINK ANY COMP PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WE APPROVE AND TRANSMIT TO THE STATE IS CONCERNING AND SHOULD BE REALLY CAREFULLY CONSIDERED. I SEE THIS ITEM AS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO DOWN BY FAVOR DIKES WHERE THAT WAS SOME FAMILY-OWNED PROPERTY AND THAT WAS GOING TO ALLOW THREE NEW HOUSES ON ABOUT, SPHROAFERRED ABOUT 17 ACRES -- SPREAD OVER ABOUT 17 ACRES, SO THIS I THINK OPENS THE DOOR FOR OTHER COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS IN THE AREA INCLUDING THE PARENT TRACT. I'LL HAVE TO SAY IT WAS PERHAPS SOMEWHAT MISLEADING IN THE AGENDA ITEM THAT PARENT TRACT WAS GOING TO STAY INTACT. THAT'S WHY I CD LICENSE THE QUESTION IS IT REALLY GOING TO STAY INTACT. FOR HOW LONG.
WOULD IT BE PROTECTED BY A CONSERVATION EASEMENT. AND THE QUESTION HERE IS APPARENTLY NO, IT IS NOT. I INTEND TO VOTE AGAINST THE ITEM, AND I'LL PROBABLY BE IN
THE MINORITY, BUT SO BE IT. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.
ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A MOTION, THEN? MR. LIMBO.
>> MOTION TO RECOMMEND TRANSMITTAL OF COMP AMENDMENT 20200 NEN HEF 1 OXFORD ESTATES
EAST FUTURE PHASE BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACTMENT. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE -- >> MR. CHAIR, WHO IS THE SECOND?
>> MS. MEGAN. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTEFOR EXAMPLE MOTION C.
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I THINK WE'VE GOT ENOUGH GAS LEFT IN THE TANK TO DO ITEM NUMBER 8 RIGHT NOW.[Item 8]
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE AGENCY. CYNTHIA MAY WITH MANAGEMENT THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8. IT'S ALSO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 2019-0 ISN'T FOR THE ST. MARKS CAMPGROUNDS AND THIS IS A TRANSMITTAL HEARING AS WELL.
THE REQUEST IS FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO THE ST. MARKS CAMPGROUNDS AND THAT'S TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LANDS USE MAP EDITION DMAITION FROM RURAL SYLVIE CULTURE TO RURAL COMMERCIAL AND A I'LL STATE RIGHT NOW THAT THAT'S JUST FOR A PORTION OF THE ENTIRE PRD THAT'S OUT THERE. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY AND IT'S JUST REALLY WEST OF IEWCHTS HIGHWAY 1. -- US-HIGHWAY 1THE COMPANY COMPT TO THE PRD TO COMMERCIAL RURAL. WELL, THE REMAINDER OF THE ST. MARKS PRD WOULD BE REZONED FROM PRD TO OPEN RURAL. THE PROPOSAL IS TO DEVELOP THE 74-ACRE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE EK TAKEN OUT OF THE PRD AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION AS AN RV RESORT AND CAMPGROUND WITH ASSOCIATED CAMPGROUND AMENITIES AND A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT THAT WOULD INCLUDE A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS PART OF THE ST. MARKS POND RURAL DEVELOPMENT. IT HAS 46 ACRES THAT WAS A PIT. IT'S NOW A POND.
IT'S RENTED BY 16.6 ACRES OF UPLAND AND THERE ARE 11.77 ACRES OF WETLANDS ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PARCEL. THE REMAINDER OF THE ST. MARKS POND PRD IS INTENDED TO STAY RURAL SYLVIE CULTURE. THE MAJORITY OF THE REMAINING PRD IS WITHIN THE ST. MARKS POND MITIGATION BANK. SO THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
IT'S ZEROED IN ON JUST THE PARCEL THAT IS SUBJECT TO THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
IF IT WERE CHANGED, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WOULD BE RURAL COMMERCIAL.
IT IS RURAL SYLVIE CULTURE TO THE SOUTHWEST AND NORTH AND INDUSTRIAL TO THE EAST.
SOUTH, WEST AND NORTH AND INDUSTRIAL TO THE EAST. IT IS CURRENTLY PART OF THAT PRD. AND HERE'S A GENERALIZED CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN.
THE ORIENTATION IS A LITTLE BIT TURNED FROM THE MAPS YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING BUT INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY RUNS SORT OF NORTHEAST OF-SOUTHWEST UP HERE IN THIS ORE YEN TITION.
ACCESS WOULD BE FROM BERCHL GOLF PARKWAY. HERE WOULD BE THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT THAT WOULD SERVE THE CAMPGROUND. AND THEN SAMPLE P CAMPSITES WOULD BE SURROUNDING THE POND IN THOSE LOCATIONS. WHAT YOU CAN ALSO SEE HERE IN THE SORT OF DOT PATTERN IS THE ST. MARKS POND MITIGATION BANK. SOME OF THAT SPILLS OVER INTO THIS PARCEL THAT'S BEING CARVED OUT. NONE OF THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. AND AGAIN TWISTING IT BACK TO A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ORIENTATION, THIS IS US-HIGHWAY 1 OVER HERE TO THE EAST.
INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY. THE OUTLINE OF THE PRD, A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE BUT IT'S THIS PLACK AREA THAT KIND OF SENTENCED TOWARD THE SOUTHEAST. THE BLACK AREA.
HERE'S THE PARCEL THAT WILL BE REMOVED, AND IF YOU MAY RECALL IN ABOUT 2018 THERE WAS ANOTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, AND AT THAT TIME A MAJOR MODIFICATION, AND A REZONING TO CARVE OUT THAT PIECE AT THE NORTHEAST SIDE, AND THAT WENT TO BECOME AN INDUSTRIAL PARK.
THIS IS A MAP OF THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE ST. MARKS POND PRD.
I APOLOGIZE FOR ALL DIFFERENT ORIENTATIONS. THE INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE MAP AT THIS POINT. ST. MARKS BOULEVARD COMES DOWN INTO THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE PRD. THERE'S AN EXISTING BORROW IT.
AT THE PIT AT THE SOUTHERN ENS A RECYCLING NATURAL RESOURCES FACILITIES IS PART OF THATTHIS D
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RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WERE PROPOSED AS PART OF THE PRD.PRD. ST. MARKS POND MITIGATION BANK ENCOMPASSES THE MAJORITY OF THIS SITE, AND THERE'S ALSO CONSERVATION AREA THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE MITIGATION BANK KIND OF TO THE NORTHWEST. OKAY. TRANSPORTATION HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM CONCURRENCE REVIEW, AND THAT'S PER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT SECTION, CODE SECTION 1105 WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 2018. A STAFF ANALYSIS BASED ON THE INTENDS PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT LOOKED AT THE MAXIMUM POTENTIAL IMPACT THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED, AND THIS WOULD BE FOR AN RV RESORT AND CAMPGROUND WITH 150 CAMPSITES, 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF QUALITY RESTAURANT AND OTHER ASSOCIATED CAMPGROUND ACTIVITIES. IT'S ESTIMATED TO GENERATE ABOUT 1:11 P.M. PEAK HOUR TRIPS, AND THE MAXIMUM POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS LIMITED BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON THE UNIQUE SITE CHARACTERISTICS THAT ARE JUST RECENTLY POINTED OUT.
THERE ARE TWO DIRECTLY ACCESS ROAD SEGMENTS ON SPERCHL GOLF PARKWAY, AND THEY REALLY EXTEND FROM NORTH FRANCIS TO US-HIGHWAY 1, BOTH EAST AND WEST OF THE SITE.
THEY BOTH CURRENTLY HAVE ADEQUATE CAPACITY TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OPERATING AT APPROXIMATELY 85% CAPACITY. SITE ACCESS WOULD BE ASSESSED AT THE TIME OF THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW, AND BASED ON THE INTENDED PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, THE PROJECT IS ESTIMATED TO GENERATE LESS THAN 3:00 P.M. PEAK HOUR TRIPS DIDN'T -- 300PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS. LANDS EAST OF THE SITE HAS A FUTURE LAND USE P OF INDUSTRIAL AND IS COMPRISED OF INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES AND BUSINESS PARKS. LAND TO THE NORTH AND WEST IS DESIGNATED RURAL SYLVIE CULTURE AND IS PART OF THE 12-MILE SWAWSM SWAMP WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT AREA. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY A122 DISCOURAGES THE EXPANSION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AREA UNLESS THE THE APPLICANT CAN DEMONSTRATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JOB CREATION, THE PRESERVATION OF NATURAL ENVIRONMENT ARE OTHER PUBLIC BENEFIT.
THE APPLICATION ADDRESSED HOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW THIS PROPOSED RV RESORT AND CAMPGROUND PROVIDES PUBLIC BENEFIT, AND IT STATES THATY ADD JAY SANTAS TO THE ST. MARKS POND MITIGATION BAIRCHGHT TO SOUTH AND EAST AND 12-MILE SWAMP WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT AREA TO THE NORTH AND WEST PROVIDING IDEAL LOCATION FOR A CAMPGROUND, AND IT HAS GOOD ACCESS TO MAJOR ROADWAYS. THE PROPOSED CAMPGROUND IS A LOW IMPACT USE IN A RURAL SETTING WITH LIMITED IMPACT ON INFRASTRUCTURE OR COUNTY RESOURCES, AND THAT THE USE WOULD PROVIDE BOTH ECONOMIC AND RECREATIONAL BENEFITS. RURAL COMMERCIAL ALLOWS COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE INTENDED TO SERVE RURAL COMMUNITIES AND ARE COMPATIBLE WITH RURAL USES AND DENSITIES. THOSE RURAL COMMERCIAL USES MAY INCLUDE GENERAL STORES, THE RETAIL SALE OF MORT FUEL AND TACKLE, AGRICULTURAL MANUFACTURING AND ROADSIDE STANDS, NURSERIES, FISH CAMPS, CAMPGROUNDS AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKS AND OTHER SORT OF ACTIVITY RELATED TO RIDING AND HORSES AND THAT SORT OF THING. HERE'S A COMPATIBILITY MAP.
I IT PROPERTY AND THE TWL MILIUM SWA CONSERVATION WHICH KIND OF SURROUNDS IT ON THE NORTH AND WEST. ST. NARCS PRD TO THE SOUTH AND THE INDUSTRIAL USES TO THE EAST. THE FUTURE LAND USA MAP DESIGNATION SHOWS YOU WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED ADDITIONALLY IN RURAL COMMERCIAL AND WHAT WOULD BE ELIMINATED AND WHAT WOULD BE RURAL COMMERCIAL USES. AND NEIGHBOR BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL.
AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER THINGS ON THE LEFT SIDE ARE UNDER RURAL SYLVIE CULTURE IN THIS CONTEXT WOULD BE ELIMINATED. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS OF LEGISLATIVE IN NATURE. THEY ARE POLICY MAKING DECISION. THE DETERMINATION OF SCIFTS CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND STATE LAW ARE APPROVAL OR DEFINITELY AMENDMENTS MUST NOT BE ARBITRARY AND EXA PREESHES, AND THE TYPES INFORMATION, EVIDENCE AND DOCUMENTATION THAT MAY BE CONSIDERED AS BROADER THAN THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE FOR A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING. STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPOND EBBS OR OTHER INQUIRIES REGARDING THIS PROPOSAL. WE RECOMMEND THAT IF THE AGENCY FIND THE PROJECT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SPECIFICALLY POLICIES A125 AND A127, STF DOES NOT OBJECT TO RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD TO TRANSMIT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. AND THAT'S BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT, THE DEVELOPMENT CODE OF THE RELEVANT INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THE STAFF, AND OTHER EVIDENCE AND MATERIALS RECEIVED DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. I REALIZE THAT THE SLIDES
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SKIPPED OVER A WHOLE BUNCH. UNINTENDS. AND THAT ONE OF THE OTHER STAFF REVIEWS WAS WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL TEAM, AND THEY EXPRESSED CONCERN WITH THE PROXIMITY OF USING FIRE PITS NEXT TO THE 12-MILE SWAMP, AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL TO HAVE A FIRE MITIGATION MANAGEMENT PLAN SUBMITTED WITH THAT. I THINK THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE. >> THANK YOU.
I SEE NO QUESTIONS. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD, I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME LATER. NO STRANGER TO THIS ROOM. ARE YOU HOW?
>> HELLO. I'M GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? SHANNON OS VADE OH FOR THE RECORD WITH MATTHEW'S ASSIGN GROUP 7 WALD OH STREET ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, AND I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE ST. MARKS RV RESORT CAMPGROUND PROJECT, AND JUST TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF OUR PROJECT TEAM IN ADDITION TO MYSELF AND KAREN TAYLOR AS PLANNERS, WE HAVE THE OWNERS PAUL WHILE DID BAKE AND ARE DAN WITH ANCIENT CITY LAND MANAGEMENT WITH ENGINEERING ALEX ACHE RI WITH MATTHEWS DESIGN GROUP AND WE HAVE CONSULTANTS ABOUT ENVIRONMENT RESOURCES SOLUTIONS INCLUDING JAIME NORTHROP.
I WANTED TO INCLUDE THE PROPERTY APPRAISER MAP JUST SO YOU, GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE ACTUAL PARCEL LOOKS IKE TODAY. SO THAT TURQUOISE BOUNDARY, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE PIT NUMBER.
THIS IS THE ONLY MAP WHERE I SHOW THAT BOUNDARY BECAUSE, AS MS. MAY HAD MENTIONED, THIS IS IS NOT THE EXTENT OF THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT. WE ARE REDUCING THAT TO NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE MITIGATION BANK AREAS. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE PARCEL ITSELF IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THAT INDUSTRIAL IW ZONING PIECE TO THE IMMEDIATE EAST.
IN TERMS OF THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY RURAL SYLVIE CULTURE.
WE'VE GOT SOME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO THE EAST AND THEN FURTHER EAST THE MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL AREA. OBVIOUSLY THE 12-MILE SWAMP TAKES A LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY SURROUNDING IN OTHER DIRECTIONS AND LOOKING AT MORE OF A MACRO VIEW YOU CAN SEE AS WE GET CLOSER, THERE'S SOME LARGE DRI SIZED OF PUD ANDS REASONABLE AREAS INCLUDING THE ST. JOHNS PUD AND A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THE WORLD COMMERCE CENTER. AND PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE.
NOW YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE AREA IS THAT'S BEING AMENDED, HOW IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT GRAY.
THAT WILL REMAIN RURAL SYLVIE CULTURE IN BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND THE INDUSTRIAL NODES.
SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP AN RV RESORT CAMPGROUND. AND THIS IS CURRENT WITHIN THE ST. MARKS PRD. JUST TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE PROJECT AND HISTORY, THE ST. MARKS PRD IS OVER 1100 ACRES. OF THAT, ABOUT 736 ACRES ARE WETLANDS AND ABOUT 780 ACRES ARE WITHIN THE ST. MARKS POND MITIGATION BANK.
YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THE AERIAL WHERE YOU SEE SORT OF THAT GRAY HATCHED PATTERN, THAT IS THE MITIGATION BANK BOUNDARY. AND AS MS. MAY HAD MENTIONED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, THIS IS AN EXISTING BORROW PIT, AND LETTERS A WOOD CHIPPING FACILITY WITHIN THAT I'M SAME TITE.
OTHER THAN THAT THE -- SIEMENT. OTHER THAN THAT THE AREA THAT'S REMAINING OF THE PRD IS VACANT==. AND JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, A LITTLE BIT EARLY BUT EVENTUALLY WHEN THIS COMES BACK, THERE IS GOING TO BE A COMPANION APPLICATION TO REZONE THE PIECE OF PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY TO COMMERCIAL RURAL TO MATCH THAT RURAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION. 74.14 ACRES. AND THEN IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO THEN REVERT THE REST OF THE PRD TO OPEN RURAL. NOW, GETTING BACK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, WE ARE LOOKING AT JUSTIFICATION IN TERMS OF THE NEED FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, HOW IT WOULD I DISCOURAGE URBAN SPRAWL, AND HOW IT WOULD NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT NATURAL RESOURCES. SO IN TERMS OF JUSTIFICATION, WE WOULD LIKE TO START BY FIRST LOOKING AT WHY NOT DEVELOP WITH THE EXISTING LAND USE AND ZONING.
AND THE REASON BEHIND THAT IS THE PRD IS REALLY NOT A VIABLE OPTION, AS RESIDENTIAL
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SUBDIVISION. IN FACT, THE AREAS WHERE THE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ARE SHOWN ON THIS EXISTING PRD MAP ARE WITHIN THE MITIGATION BANK. SO IT JUST WOULDN'T BE A VIABLE OPTION TO KEEP THE PRD. THERE'S ALSO CONSERVATION EASEMENTS WITHIN THIS AREA.AND AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, OVER 700 ACRES OF WETLANDS. SO THE PROPOSED RV CAMPGROUND USE WOULD TAKE THE AREA THAT'S DEVELOP AROUND THE EXISTING POND, SO THE CAMPSITES WOULD BE -- WE'LL GET INTO THE SITE PLAN A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT THEY WOULD KIND OF FORM AROUND GENERALLY THE NATURAL AREA. THERE WILL BE SOME EBBS AND FLOWS IN HOW THAT POND IS RESHAPED, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT WILL BE SOME EXACT DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE POND AS IT EXISTS.
AND THE COMMERCIAL RECREATION WOULD BE AN OPTIMAL USE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS UNIQUE SITE.
YOU HAVE LOTS OF BEAUTIFUL NATURAL AREAS AROUND IT. IGP JUST WEST OF THIS STARTS THE SCENIC ROAD PORTION OF THAT, SO IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THIS BE KIND OF A NATURAL ECO TOURIST TYPE OF USE. IN TERMS OF COMPATIBILITY AND ANTI-SPRAWL, AS I HAD MENTIONED, THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO AN INDUSTRIAL LAND USE AND THE DEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY, HOWEVER, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE NON-MITIGATION LANDS. THE BALANCE OF THE PRD WOULD REVERT BACK TO OPEN RURAL AND WOULD REMAIN RURAL SYLVIE CULTURE.
AND THIS KIND OF PROVIDERS A SMOOTH TRANSITION BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT SOME QUITE HEAVY INTENSITY TYPE DEVELOPMENTS WITH THE REPUBLIC SERVICE AND STORAGE AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF INDUSTRIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES THAT ARE CLOSER TO US-1. THIS COULD PROVIDE SOME FORM OF TRANSITION BETWEEN THOSE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS AND THEN THE CONSERVED AREA OF THE TWELVE MILE SWAMP. THERE IS NO INTENTION OF TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED. IGB PARKWAY IS CURRENTLY JUST UNDER CAPACITY, AND THIS PROJECT WOULD FIT IN WITHIN THE CAPACITY THAT'S PLANNED FOR IGP. AND AS I MENTIONED, THE DEVELOPMENT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 74 ACRES, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE SURVEY. THE MAJORITY OF THAT PROPERTY IS THE EXISTING POND, AND THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD B FOCUSED AROUND THE POND AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL WHERE WE WOULD HAVE A RESTAURANT AND THE MAIN COMMON AREA FOR THE RESORT ITSELF WOULD BE JUST OFF OF IGP.
AND I DID WANT TO POINT OUT JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT THE POSITIVE MARKET ASPECT OF A LAND USE AMENDMENT. P WE LOOK AT THE RV VOTER AS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE THE BED TAX AND AD VALOREM TAX VALUE. THESE ARE A LITTLE BIT DATED STATISTICS BUT I DID WANT TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION THAT I FIND.
TYPICAL RV OWNER HAS ABOVE AVERAGE INCOME, ABOUT $62,000. THIS WAS BACK FROM 2011.
AND THEN A MORE RECENT STUDSY FROM 2016 SHOWED THAT VISITORS GENERATE ABOUT $135 OF SPENDING PER PARTY PER DAY. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER COMMERCIAL HEARS THAT ARE ALONG IGP AS YOU HAVE SEEN IN THAT OTHER FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT COULD PROVIDE A SORT OF CATALYST TO IMPROVE THE AREA AND CREATE SOME ENERGY IN THAT AREA.
IT IS MOSTLY CLIENT-BASED. THAT IS, THE TRAVELING PUBLIC. HOWEVER, THE RESTAURANT THAT'S PLANNED WOULD ALSO BE SUPPORTED BY LOCAL RESIDENTS. AND GETTING INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICS, I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT EARLY FOR THIS BUT I DID WANT TO GIVE YOU A PICTURE OF WHAT IS BEING PLANNED FOR THIS SITE. SO AGAIN I KNOW IT'S SOME STRANGE ORIENTATIONS, BUT HERE'S IGP, JUST TO GET YOU ORIENTED. HERE'S WHERE THE RESTAURANT AND COMMON AREA FOR THE PARK WOULD BE, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE CAMPSITES.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A MAXIMUM OF 150. THIS SITE PLAN DOESN'T QUITE GET YOU THERE. I THINK IT'S AT AROUND 100, SOMEWHERE IN THE 130S.
AND THEN UP TO 20,000 SQUARE FEET, 10,000 SQUARE FEET IS THE FROT PRINT AND THEN YOU'D HAVE A COMBINATION OF RESTAURANT, COMMUNITY CENTER SPACE WITH THE POND TO REMAIN.
WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THIS IN A SINGLE FIVE-YEAR PHASE, AND THEN WE WOULD BE, IN KEEPING WP UP LAND BUFFERS OF THE SURROUNDING WETLANDS. THERE IS ABOUT 1.7 ACRES OF THE
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ROUGHLY 11.7 ACRES OF WETLANDS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO IMPACT OR THAT WOULD BE EXPECTED TO IMPACT, AND THOSE ARE THOSE KIND OF DASHING GRAY AREAS RIGHT HERE.NONE OF THE MITIGATION LANDS OR CONTIGUOUS WETLANDS WOULD BE IMPACTED AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SITE PLAN. IN TERMS OF IMPACTS, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ABOUT ANTICIPATED TRAFFIC COUNT OF 111 PEAK HOUR TRIPS. THIS IS QUITE CONSERVATIVE AS WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT ANY SHARED TRIPS, AND WE WOULD IMAGINE THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME SHARED USE BETWEEN PATRONS OF THE RV PARK GOING TO THE RESTAURANT AND VICE VERSA.
YOU. AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW WREAF PLANNED FOR THAT HERE.
THIS IS ZOOMED IN. NOW WE'RE FOCUSED ON JUST THE AREA OFF IGP AND WE'VE GOT PARKING PLAN. HERE'S JURY STANDARD PARKING ALONG THE RESTAURANT.
WE'VE ALSO GOT RV PARKING FOR PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN TO REGISTER OR TAKE THEIR RESERVATION. BUT WE'VE ALSO GOT THESE SMALL GUYS ARE GOLF CART PARKING, AND THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT THESE WOULD BE THE PATRONS THAT ARE ALREADY USING THE RV SITE AND THEN COMING FOR DINNER. AND IN TERMS OF LAND COVER, AS I MENTIONED, THE MAJORITY OF THIS WHERE YOU SEE THE DOTTED AREA, THAT'S THE MITIGATION LAND. WHAT YOU SEE THERE IN THAT STRIPED BLUE WAS ADDED TO THE MITIGATION BANK. THIS IS OUTSIDE THE PRD BOUNDARY SO IT DOES GO A LITTLE BIT BEYOND EVEN THE BOUNDARY OF THE ST. MARKS PRD.
AND THEN AGAIN, TO MENTION ABOUT THE EXACT DEVELOPMENT, YES, THIS IS A LAND USE AMENDMENT OF OVER 70 ACRES, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THIS, THIS POND AREA WITH A SLIGHT RECONFIGURATION THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROPOSED, AND THAT'S ABOUT 46 ACRES. AS I MENTIONED, ABOUT 11.77 ACRES OF WETLANDS, AND THEN THE UPLANLDZ, THIS IS THE TRUE DEVELOPMENTABLE AREA IS ABOUT 16. DEVELOPABLE AREA IS ABOUT 16. THERE WERE NO LISTED SPECIES ON-SITE OR SIGNIFICANT NATURAL COMMUNITIES ON-SITE. BUT I WANTED TO PROVIDE THIS EXHIBIT SO YOU COULD KIND OF GET A GENERAL IDEA OF A FIVE-MILE RADIUS OF WHERE THESE SPECIES EXOIRS HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED. THE LOS CLOSEST BALD EAGLE IS ABOUT 2.6 MILES'.
AND SO IN SUMMARY, WE BELIEVE THIS PROPERTY IS SUITABLE FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO RURAL COMMERCIAL, AND IT'S COMPATIBLE IN THAT IT DOES NOT CREATE AN UNREASONABLE IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS. THE ANTICIPATED TRAFFIC FLOW IS WITHIN THE CAPACITY OF IGP.
THE PROPOSED ALLOWABLE USES WE DO NOT FORESEE ANY KIND OF NUISANCES.
AND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN TERMS OF USE OF STRUCTURES, WE WOULD SEE APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA, CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND SO WE REQUEST TRANSMITTAL OF THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
I'LL STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS, AND THE REST OF MY TEAM IS HERE AS WELL IF YOU HAVE IF I QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ARCHIE.
>> I HAVE THREE. IS ANY OF THIS LAND RESERVATION LAND?
OR ALL OF IT OR PART OF IT? IS IT RESERVED? >> SO NONE OF THE DEVELOPABLE PROPERTY IS WITHIN CONSERVATION EASEMENTS OR IN THE MITIGATION. THERE IS, AS I MENTIONED, ABOUT 11.7 ACRES OF WETLANDS ANDS WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY 1 .7.
IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO GIVE AN EXACT NUMBER BUT THAT'S WHAT OUR SITE PLAN SHOWS TODAY.
>> CAN THE APPLICANT CHANGE THE USE WITHOUT COMING BACK HERE? >> WHEN WE -- COME AGAIN IF IS GET TRANSMITTED, THE SECOND ROUND OF HEARING WILL BE FOR THE ADOPTION AND THEN WILL ALSO BE PRESENTING A COMPANION REZONING APPLICATION TO COMMERCIAL RURAL. I THINK INCYNTHIA HAD A LIST OF THE TYPES OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWABLE UNDER COMMERCIAL RURAL.
IT'S MORE FOCUSED ON RURAL TYPE USES, GENERAL SOURCE. YOU CAN HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES, AND THAT'S WHERE WE GOT TO THE RESTAURANT AS A PROPOSED USE.
BUT IT WOULD BE A STRAIGHT REZONING. >> TWO MORE QUESTIONS.
HOW MANY SITES? HOW MANY RV SITES? I GUESS THE PRIMARY THING HERE
STORE PEOPLE TO BRING THEIR RVS AND PARK HERE. >> YES.
IT'S A MANY CA GROUND. >> HOW MANY SITES? A CAMPGROUND.
>> AS I MENTIONED, WE DID THE IMPACT ANALYSIS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT WHAT'S THE THEORETICAL MAXIMUM OF WHAT COULD BE IMPACTED. WE ROUNDED THAT TO 150.
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I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO QUITE GET TO EXACTLY 150, BUT THAT WAS THE MAXIMUM THAT WECOULD DO WITH OUR LOT FIT ANALYSIS. >> THANK YOU.
THE LAST QUESTION. MY NAIVETIY OVERHOURS ME HERE. I KIND OF THINK OF THIS KIND USE IS GENTLE ON THE ENVIRONMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OR NOT.
IS IT? FOR EXAMPLE, THE IMPACT OF THIS COMPARED TO, LET'S SAY, TO
RESIDENTIAL BUILDING AREA, HELP ME WITH THAT. >> WELL, AGAIN, I THINK WHERE THE IMPACT COME INTO PLAY FOR THIS SPECIFIC SITE, BECAUSE IT IS SORT OF AN UNUSUAL SITE, THERE'S THIS LARGE BORROW PIT THAT'S IN THE CENTER OF IT, YOU'VE GOT THE TWELVE MILE SWAMP AROUND IT, YOU'VE QUOTE THIS MITIGATION BANK PROPERTY THAT IS PROTECTED, CONSERVATION EASEMENTS THAT ARE PROTECTED, SO THE BASIS OF WEEK I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE LIGHTER IN IMPACT IS THE AREAS THAT WE WOULD BE FOCUSING ON FOR DEVELOPMENT, IT WOULD NOT REALLY BE PRACTICAL TO TRY TO FILL IN THAT POND, SO WHEN WE DID THE SITE PLANNING, WE'RE FOCUSED ON WHAT UPLANDS ARE IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THAT POND, AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE SCHEID DECIDED TO CONFIGURE WHERE THE RV SITES THEMSELVES WOULD BE. NOW, YOU'LL HAVE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE, SO SOME IMPACT. WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 20-FOOT STABILIZED SURFACE THAT'S GOING TO BE TWO-WAY DRIVE AROUND THE POND. SOME STABILIZATION FOR THE RVS TO ACTUALLY PARK THERE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE STANDARD YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO ANY KIND OF RESTAURANT AT THE FRONT OF IGP. BUT IN TERMS OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, AS I MENTIONED, THE CONSERVED -- THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT LANDS AND THE MIDGATION
LAND WOULD BE LEFT INTACT. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
>> DR. HILLSENBECK. >> KAREN TAYLOR, ONE OF THE PEOPLE.
WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IMPACTS, YOU KNOW, AND PART OF EVEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE INDUSTRIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL WAS THAT RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE TEND TO KIND OF EASE INTO THE BUFFERS AND THE THINGS IF THEY'RE IN THEIR BACKYARD. IF YOU'RE A COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT'S A MUCH MORE CONTROLLED TYPE THING. AND AS SHANNON MENTIONED ON THE SITE PLAN, PART OF OUR IDEA, TOO, IS THERE WILL BE THE WETLANDS AREA SURROUNDING THE POND. THEN THERE'S THE ROADWAY. AND THEN THERE'S THE CAMPSITES NEXT TO THE BORROW PIT OR THE BIG POND. SO YOU'RE KIND OF KEEPING THAT ACTIVITY, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO GO RUING AING INTO THAT KIND OF DIDN'T RUMMAGING INTO THAT KIND OF AREA. A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE NORTH BEACH CAMPGROUND WHERE I DID WHERE THEY KIND OF CARVE EVERYTHING INTO THE DIFFERENT -- THESE WILL ALL BE FOCUSED ON THAT, SO THE ACTUAL IMPACTS WILL BE A LOT LESS ON THAT OR THE POTENTIAL FOR IMPACTS.
AND AS SHE MENTIONED WITH THE AREA IN THE FRONT, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS A POND THERE AND THERE WAS THE BASICALLY THE POND WHEN YOU DO THE BORROW, WHEN YOU TAKE THE BORROW OUT, AND SO THAT AREA, PART OF THAT'LL BE FILLED BACK IN. IT'S VERY -- IT'S NOT VERY DEEP.
SO THAT ACTIVITY, THE RESTAURANT OR THE PEOPLE COMING IN, THE GOLF CARTS, THE DIFFERENT THING, THAT'S ALL SET ON SOME REAL STABLE UPLAND AREA RIGHT NEXT TO IGP BOULEVARD.
SO FROM AN IMPACT IT REALLY DOESN'T AND IT DOESN'T IMPACT ALL THE REST OF IT BUT THEY GET
TO ENJOY THE BOUNTIFUL NATURE THAT'S GOING TO SURROUND THEM. >> THANK YOU.
>> DR. HILLSENBECK. >> WHEN I FIRST READ THIS APPLICATION, I HAD QUITE A FEW CONCERNS, BUT MOST OF THOSE HAVE BEEN DISPELLED ENTIRELY BY THIS BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE RIGHT HERE. UNDER THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS, IT SAYS THAT STAFF WANTED TO SEE -- BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A CAMPFIRE AREA AND THEN YOU'RE ADJACENT TO A LOT OF NATURAL LANDS, THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE A FIRE MANAGEMENT PLAN.
I GUESS IT'S TOO EARLY TO HAVE A FIRE MANAGEMENT PLAN, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE OWNER IS RUNNING THE MITIGATION BANK HAVE THE EXPERIENCE WITH THAT, SO I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
BUT IT ALSO STATED, ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION STAFF ALSO NOTED CERTAIN RURAL COMMERCIAL USES MAY NOT BE COMPAT YOU WILL BE WITH THE SURROUNDING CONSERVATION LANDS, INCLUDING THE SALE OF GASOLINE, CAR WASHES, OIL CHANGE FACILITIES, AND TIRE FACILITIES.
THEN I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING REALLY MORE ABOUT THOSE USES OF HAVE THE OWNERS AGREED NOT TO
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HAVE THOSE KIND OF FACILITIES AS PART OF THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT?THAT WAS ON PAGE 10 OF THE APPLICATION. >> YES.
I DO HAVE SOME RESPONSES. LET ME -- I THINK I KNOW THE ONE THAT YOU'RE THINKING OF.
>> I DIDN'T SEE THE RESPONSE. >> LET ME GET TO THAT SPOT HERE. >> WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT, I WAS UNFAMILIAR WITH THE ST. MARKS POND MITIGATION BANK BUT I GOOGLED IT AND FOUND OUT QUITE A BIT ABOUT IT, AND I THINK IT'S WELL MANAGE AND IT'S A GOOD ASPECT OF OUR COMMUNITY, SO I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT. BUT UPON GOOGLING IT, SINCE I GOOGLED IT NOW I'M GETTING AUTO SORTS OF ADS, ONE PARTICULARLY COMPELLING ADS ASKING IF I WANT TO BUY ANY CREDITS IN THERE.
I DON'T, BUT IT'S A VERY GOOD AD. BUT I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT.
IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TWELVE MILE SWAMP CONSERVATION AREA, WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT AREA AND THE CURRENT MITIGATION BANK, I THINK THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD USE, WELL JUSTIFIED USE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, AND THAT IT FITS IN AS A TRANSITION AREA, AND IT WILL BRING ECOTOURISM TO THE AREA, SO
I THOUGHT IT WAS AN INNOVATIVE USE AND WELL DESCRIBED. >> THANK YOU.
AND THAT IS THE INTENT. IN TERMS OF THOSE OTHER USES THAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED THAT WAS PART OF THE COMMENTS, IT IS A STRAIGHT REZONING THAT WOULD ACCOMPANY THIS WHEN IT COMES BACK. HOWEVER, SOME OF THOSE HIGHER USES, ESPECIALLY THE CAR ORIENTED TYPE USES, WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHICH MEANS WE WOULD BE COMING BEFORE THIS AGENCY AGAIN FOR APPROVAL. IN TERMS OF THE CONFIGURATION OF THE SITE AND THE AMOUNT OF UPLANLDZ THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH, IT WOULD BE QUITE
DIFFICULT TO FEASIBLY DEVELOP SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. >> RIGHT.
YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT CONSTRAINTS, PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PROPERTY. SIGNIFICANTLY CONSTRAINED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS
IS WHAT IS STATED. >> REALLY IT'S ONLY LIMITED -- YOU REALLY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE AROUND THE POND. IT DOESN'T LEND ITSELF TO ANY OTHER TYPE OF ACTIVITY.
SO IT WOULD REALLY BE CONFINED TO THAT FRONT AREA THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
SO WE CAN CERTAINLY ADDRESS THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT. >> THANK YOU.
>> MIKE. >> TO THROUGH THE CHAIR, LOOKT IT BRIEFLY, YOU YOU HAD MENTIONED GAS STATIONS AIR POTENTIAL CONCERN BUT IF THEY WENT TO COMMERCIAL RURAL, THE USE CATEGORIES ARE WITHIN THAT ZONING DISTRICT WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR IT.
IT WOULD ALLOW NEIGHBORHOODS BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL AND IT WOULD ALLOW COMMERCIAL RURAL, AND GAS STATIONS WERE LISTED NOT AS A USE THERE. YOU COULD HAVE A CONVENIENCE STORE WITHOUT GAS PUMPS AND NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL.
SO I'LL DOUBLE-CHECK THAT, DUTY BSH. >> I THINK YOU CAN HAVE GAS STATIONSIN COMMERCIAL RURAL ZONG BECAUSE IT INCLUDES BOTH THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND THE
RURAL COMMERCIAL DID -- >> USE CATEGORIESSOME. >> USE CATEGORIES.
>> I'LL DOUBLE-CHECK>> I DON'T T TO DO THAT AT ALL HERE. >> WOULD YOU GUYS OBJECT TO
DROPPING THAT OFF, THEN? >> I DON'T THINK AT THIS POINT. WE'RE JUST AT A TRANSMITTAL FOR
A COMP PLAN. >> NOW AT NOW BUT AS THIS THING PROGRESSES.
>> WE WILL HAVE THE DIDN'T YOU WHEN ZONING COMES UP, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I KNOW MIKE --
>> BY THE WAY, THERE'S, WHAT, FOUR NOW RIGHT THERE AT POLLENSIA? BUCKY'S IS AT THE OTHER END. SO I DON'T THINK FROM A MARKETING PERSPECTIVE IT'S A VERY GOOD LOCATION FOR A GAS STATION, EITHER, SO I DON'T THINK THEY'D HAVE AN ISSUE OF
NOT PUTTING ONE IN. >> I WOULD AGREE. >> I THINK KAREN'S RIGHT IN THINKING ABOUT WE MAY HAVE -- I THINK WE HAVE A CONFLICT WITH OUR NEW CODE THAT WE MAY HAVE TO CHANGE IN OUR NEWEST TABLE THAT I WAS LOOKING, BUT WE KNOW SOME PLACES LIKE BUDDY BOYS AND PLACES LIKE THAT. BUT BREAKING IT DOWN FROM A LARGE GAS STATION AS OPPOSED TO A GENERAL STORE THAT SELLS GAS, SO MAKING THAT DISTINCTION. THANK YOU.
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ANY MORE FOR THE APPLICANT? I SEE NONE. ANY SPEAKER CARDS?>> TWO. >> PLEASE. >> NORTHROP.
IS IT JANIE? >> NEXT. >> JONATHAN SUMMERFIELD.
>> ANY OTHER PUBLIC SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM? I SEE NONE.
BACK IN THE AGENCY, THEN. THOUGHTS? COMMENTS?
OR A MOTION, PLEASE. MR. WAINWRIGHT. >> I'LL DEFER TO ANYONE WHO
WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION. >> YOUR NAME UP HERE AND ONLY YOUR NAME UP HERE.
>> I'LL OFFER A MOTION TO RECOMMEND A TRANSMITTAL OF COMP PLAN 2019-0 ISN'T ST. MARKS
CAMPGROUND BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT. >> YOUR MOTION.
CAN WE HAVE A SECOND? AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTEMOTION . THANK YOU ALL. ALL RIGHT.
UP NEXT STAFF REPORTS. >> NOTHING TO ADD, SIR. >> AGENCY REPORTS.
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I'D LIKE TO REPORT THAT I WILL NOT BE HERE IN TWO WEEKS. MR. WAINWRIGHT, YOU WILL BE TAKING OVER. YOU CAN PICK YOUR VICE CHAIR. ANY OTHER AGENCY REPORTS? ANY MOTION TO ADJOURN?