[Call meeting to order ] [00:00:10] >> WE WILL CALL THIS PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY MEETING TO ORDER AT 1:30. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EVERYONE STAND TO SAY A BRIEF PRAYER BEFORE WE BEGIN. LORD, THIS ROOM IS GOING TO BE USED FOR THE BUDGET HEARING RIGHT AFTER US RIGHT NOW. WE THANK YOU THAT YOU ARE HERE, YOU ARE REAL, YOU SEE EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTY AND THAT YOU C CARE. AND WE WILL SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PLEASE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL HAVE MR. LABANOWSKI, PLEASE READ THE STATEMENT. >> THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN CONCURRENCE WITH REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW. THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TO THE AGENCY'S AREA OF JURISDICTION AND BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER COMMENT AT DESIGNATED TIMES DURING THE HEARING. THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIME DURING THE MEETING ON EACH ITEM A LENGTH OF TIME DESIGNATED BY THE CHAIR, WHICH SHALL BE 3 MINUTES. SPEAKERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, WHO THEY REPRESENT, AND STATE THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIMONY IF THEY DO NOT COMMENT THE FACT THAT THE TESTIMONY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED BY THE AGENCY IN DETERMINING THE TRUTHFULNESS OF TESTIMONY. IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE WITH RESPECT TO ANY MATTER AT THE HEARING, SUCH PERSON WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THE VERBATIM RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH INCLUDES TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED. DOCUMENTING EVIDENCE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING SUCH AS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS, PHOTOGRAPHS OR WRITTEN STATEMENTS SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE CLERK FOR INCLUSION INTO THE RECORD. THE RECORD WILL THEN BE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER BOARD AGENCY COMMITTEE OR COUNTY. AGENCY MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH ITEM, THEY SHOULD STATE WHETHER THEY HAD ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT OR OTHER PERSONS REGARDING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ITEM OUTSIDE THE FORMAL HEARING OF THE AGENCY. IF SUCH COMMUNICATIONS HAS OCCURRED, AGENCY MEMBERS SHOULD NOT IDENTIFY THE PERSONS INVOLVED -- SORRY. SHOULD THEN IDENTIFY THE PERSONS INVOLVED AND THE MATERIAL CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION. CIVILITY CLAUSE. WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL TO ONE ANOTHER, EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE. WE WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THE ISSUES. WE WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS. >> THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IF ANYONE IN THE ROOM WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, THEY MAY COME FORWARD AND THEY WILL HAVE 3 MINUTES TO EXPRESS CONCERNS OR ITEMS THEY WISH TO [1. SUPMIN 2026-06 198 Aiken Street Mobile Home. Request for a Special Use Permit, pursuant to Section 2.03.08 of the Land Development Code, to allow for a replacement Manufactured/Mobile Home in Residential, Single-Family (RS-3) zoning. ] DISCUSS. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. WE WILL NOW GO ON TO ITEM NUMBET 2026 AIKEN STREET MOBILE HOME. FIRST I'M GOING TO ASK AGENCY MEMBERS IF THEY HAVE ANY EX PARTE TO DECLARE. MR. OLSEN. >> YES. I VISITED THE SITE YESTERDAY. >> MR. LEWANDOWSKI. >> I VISITED THE SITE. >> AND I HAD A SITE VISIT AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. NOW WE WILL CALL FORWARD LINDSEY COOK. >> HELLO. I'M LINDSEY COOK. THANK YOU. >> YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE. >> LINDSEY COOK, 359 SUMMIT DRIVE IN ORANGE PARK, FLORIDA. I'M HERE REPRESENTING KATHERINE WARD ON 198 AIKEN STREET, THIS IS FOR A MOBILE HOME. THIS IS FOR A PROPOSED MOBILE HOME AND THERE'S ALREADY A MOBILE HOME ON THE PROPERTY. WE ARE JUST BASICALLY UPGRADING AND RENOVATING. HERE'S A PHOTO OF THE HOME THAT'S BEEN THERE SINCE THE 1980, AND WE ARE JUST GOING TO REQUEST THAT WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THE SPECIAL USE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN GRANTED AND CONTINUE WITH ANOTHER MOBILE [00:05:02] HOME IN ITS PLACE. THIS IS A SITE PLAN SHOWING WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MEET ALL THE SETBACKS THE COUNTY REQUIRES. IF YOU LOOK ON THIS OVERALL SPREADSHEET YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE STAR IS, THAT IS THE LOCATION OF THE MOBILE HOME CURRENTLY. WHERE YOU SEE THE ARROWS, THOSE ARE ALSO MOBILE HOMES NEAR OR ON THE SAME STREET AS OUR PROPERTY. THESE ARE ALSO PHOTOS OF OTHER MOBILE HOMES WITHIN THE AREA. THERE'S GOING TO BE AT FIRST NO IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS, NO TRAFFIC DIFFERENCE, NO NOISE, NO NEGATIVE EFFECTS. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME TO MENTION THAT THIS IS FOR A FAMILY MEMBER. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS MOVING DOWN HERE SO SHE CAN HELP TAKE CARE OF THEM. SHE LIVES WITHIN A QUARTER MILE, SO IT JUST MAKES SENSE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO RELOCATE DOWN HERE WITH THE UPGRADED HOME. OUR REQUEST FOR APPROVAL IS JUST THAT THERE'S ALREADY AN ESTABLISHED MOBILE HOME THERE AND WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER THE RESIDENTIAL PURPOSE AND ALLOW US TO CONTINUE. >> THANK YOU. DO ANY AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I BELIEVE I VISITED THE RIGHT PROPERTY. THERE ISN'T A MOBILE HOME ON IT RIGHT NOW, IS THERE? >> NO. >> OKAY. I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION IS, IS SANITARY SEWAGE AVAILABLE ON THAT STREET TO BE TIED INTO? >> THERE'S NO SANITARY SITE, NO CITY SEWER BUT WE DO HAVE A SEPTIC TANK THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROPOSE TO REUSE. >> OKAY, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. >> THANK YOU. MR. LABANOWSKI? >> I WAS WONDERING THE SAME THING. WHEN I WENT OUT THERE THERE WAS NO MOBILE HOME. THERE'S ALSO TWO SHEDS OUT THERE, ARE THEY REMAINING? KIND OF LIKE A SHED AND A GARAGE? >> YOU CAN STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> KATHERINE WARD AT 509 IN ST. AUGUSTINE. I HAD THE ORIGINAL MOBILE HOME REMOVED BECAUSE IT WAS DANG DANGEROUS. AND REGARDING WHAT YOU WANT, IT DOESN'T MATTER. >> I HAD NO ISSUE, I WAS JUST WONDERING. THE ONLY REAL PROBLEM I SEE IS THE DRIVEWAY. IS THAT BEING REPLACED? >> WE WILL PUT A GRAVEL DRIVEWAY OVER IT WITHOUT THE CONCRETE. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. IN THE APPLICATION YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A USED MOBILE HOME, BUT YOUR APPLICANT SAID NEW. IS IT JUST NEW TO THE SITE BUT IT'S A USED MOBILE? >> IT'S USED, BUT IT'S NEWER THAN THE HOME THAT WAS THERE. OBVIOUSLY, THAT ONE WAS FALLING APART. SO IT WON'T BE AN EYESORE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU. I HAD THE SAME COMMENT ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY AS WELL. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE AUDIENCE ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. YOU CAN JUST HAVE A SEAT FOR A MOMENT WHILE THIS GENTLEMAN COMES UP AND GIVES PUBLIC COMMENT. THEN WE WILL CALL YOU BACK UP. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND YOU'LL HAVE 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ALFRED DAVIS. I LIVE AT 860 IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. MY BROTHER AND I OWN PROPERTY ON NASSAU STREET AND WE WERE IN THE -- WE HAD TO GO THROUGH A LEGAL BATTLE TO GET THAT PROPERLY. I'M OPPOSED TO MORE TRAILER HOMES COMING TO THE AREA, BECAUSE IT DEVALUES THE PROPERTY THAT'S ALREADY THERE. I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO BE NEAR YOUR PARENTS, I WANT IT TO BE NEAR MY PARENTS. EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO HAVE SOME PLACE TO LIVE. WHY NOT GO, THERE'S A TRAILER PARK FURTHER DOWN, OR BUILD A HOUSE THAT WOULD HELP KEEP THE PROPERTY VALUE UP, PUTTING TRAILERS THERE ON THE STREET ALREADY DEGRADES THE PROPERTY VALUE AND THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. WHEN I GREW UP, NASSAU STREET WAS A HAVEN TO PLAY AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IT SEEMS TO ME IN MY TRAVELS WHEN YOU PUT TRAILERS, YOU INVITE A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. I UNDERSTAND WANTING TO BE NEAR YOUR PARENTS AND WANTING TO HELP YOUR PARENTS, AND I APPLAUD THAT. BUILD A HOUSE. HELP IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY. YOU'RE NOT IMPROVING ANYTHING BY [00:10:03] PUTTING A TRAILER THERE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO ASK OUR ATTORNEY. YOU CAN COME BACK UP. IS THERE A LAW COMING INTO EFFECT ON JANUARY FIRST REGARDING PLACEMENT OF MANUFACTURED HOMES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA? >> CORRECT. WE HAVE A NEW LAW THAT WOULD BASICALLY ALLOW MANUFACTURED HOMES IN RESIDENTIAL ZONING. >> SO THEY WOULD BE COMING HERE AFTER JANUARY FIRST. IS THAT CORRECT? SORRY, SIR. THE STATE DECIDED MOBILE HOMES CAN GO IN ANY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WITHOUT APPROVAL. STARTING IN JANUARY. YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN. THANK YOU. ANY AGENCY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE ARE HERE FOR A MOTION. MR. OLSEN? >> IT'S GREEN NOW. BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING JANUARY FIRST REGARDING ALLOWING MOBILE HOMES IN ALL RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITHOUT FURTHER PZA ACTION, THIS MAY BE ONE OF OUR LAST ACTIONS OF THIS KIND. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SPECIAL USE PERMIT 2026-0 FOR AT 198 AITKIN STREET BASED ON EIGHT FINDINGS OF FACT AND 11 CONDITIONS REPORTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. OLSON, SECOND BY MISS PERKINS. LET'S GO AHEAD AND REGISTER THE VOTE. LOOKS LIKE THE VOTE SCREEN NEEDS TO BE CLEARED. THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. [2. SUPMAJ 2026-01 Marsh & Arrow. Request for a Special Use Permit, pursuant to Land Development Code Section 2.03.60, to allow for an Outdoor Archery Range in Open Rural (OR) zoning.] CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> MOVING TO ITEM NUMBER 2. THIS ALSO REQUIRES AN EX PARTE DISCLOSURE. IF ANYONE HAS EX PARTE THEY'D LIKE TO REPORT. MR LABANOWSKI. >> YES, I VISITED THE SITE. >> MR. OLSON. >> I DID NOT, I'M SORRY. >> THAT'S OKAY. I VISITED THE SITE AS WELL AND I DID HAVE A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH DOUG BURNETT REGARDING THIS APPLICATION. MR. BURNETT, OR WHOEVER IS GOING TO GIVE THIS PRESENTATION, PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. FOR THE RECORD, DOUG BURNETT, 184 SEA GROVE MAIN STREET. SO OFTEN Y'ALL ARE USED TO SEEING ME GIVING UP TO PRESENT. I MAY HAVE SOME WORDS AT THE END TO BUTTON UP A COUPLE THINGS, BUT OTHERWISE I'M GOING TO LET JASON INTRODUCE HIMSELF AND TELL YOU ABOUT THIS APPLICATION. I THINK IT WILL BE FAR MORE INFORMATIVE FOR YOU. >> MY NAME IS JASON MCKENZIE, REPRESENTING MARSH AND ARROW. DO I JUST CLICK THIS THING AND IT AUTOMATICALLY HAPPENS? >> GO FOR IT. >> IT DID WORK. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MOMENTS, WE'RE A COUPLE HOURS, WHATEVER YOU LIKE, JUST TO TALK ABOUT MARSH AND ARROW. CURRENTLY I OWN ANOTHER BUSINESS, I'M IN I T. BUT A COUPLE YEARS AGO MY FATHER IN LAW TOOK A BUS, THEY MIGHT BE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY, HUNTING AND AT THAT MOMENT JUST FELL IN LOVE WITH ARCHERY. WHEN WE CAME BACK WE WERE JUST LOOKING FOR A PLACE THAT WE COULD SHOOT. LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, YOU MIGHT LIVE IN A COMMUNITY OR AN AREA WHERE YOU CAN'T SHOOT. SO WE STARTED LOOKING FOR A PROPERTY WHERE WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO THAT. THAT'S WHERE WE FOUND THE PROPERTY. AS WE HAD CONVERSATIONS, I JUST ASKED THE QUESTION, WASN'T EVEN THINKING OF THIS MEETING TODAY AND ASKED, WHAT IF WE STARTED AN ARCHERY RANGE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY? THE RESPONSE THAT I WOULD GET, IT WASN'T A MILLION PEOPLE, BUT THE RESPONSE WAS, WE NEED THIS. THAT JUST KIND OF STUCK INTO MY HEAD AS WE JUST HAD THIS CONVERSATION. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT ARCHERY, BUT IT'S ABOUT, AND YOU'LL SEE THIS AT THE END OF THE SLIDE, ABOUT A FATHER AND SON COMING TO SHOOT TOGETHER. IT'S ABOUT A FAMILY COMING AND SPENDING TIME TOGETHER. IT'S ABOUT FRIENDS HAVING AN EXPERIENCE DISCONNECTED FROM THIS THING. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK THAT IS THE HEART OF WHAT WE NEED THIS IS ABOUT. WHEN IT COMES TO THE THINGS THAT [00:15:02] WE VALUE, I LOVE THAT YOU OPENED WITH PRAYER THIS AFTERNOON, BUT REALLY IT'S THIS. WE LOVE GOD. THAT'S A PART OF WHO MARCHAND ARROW IS. IT'S THE WAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO SERVE AND STEWARD WHOEVER OUR POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS ARE. WE LOVE PEOPLE. YOU'LL HEAR ME SAY THIS THROUGHOUT A FEW SLIDES, BUT I JUST SEE ARCHERY AS A TOOL TO REALLY LOVE AND REACH PEOPLE MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE BACK OF MY SHIRT, WE ARE A FAMILY. WHEN PEOPLE COME IN AND WANT TO SHOOT, EVEN IF YOU DON'T COME AND SHOOT, WE'RE GOING TO TREAT YOU LIKE FAMILY. WE LOVE THE OUTDOORS. WE LOVE TO HUNT, TO FISH. WHAT THAT MEANS ALSO IS THERE'S A LOT OF LYING GOING ON. HOW BIG THE DEER WAS, HOW BIG THE FISH WAS. AND ALSO, WE LOVE SHOOTING. I SAID IT ALREADY, WE JUST SEE IT AS A TOOL TO DO SOMETHING GOOD IN THE COMMUNITY. NEXT THING IS, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE. IT'S REALLY SIMPLE. WHO WAS IT THAT WENT TO THE PROPERTY? IT'S GOING TO STAY SIMPLE. WE WANT TO HAVE AN OUTDOOR RANGE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME SHOOT. NOTHING CRAZY. LET'S SAY 20-40 YARDS OUT TO THE BACK, BUT THEY COULD COME AND DO THAT ANY TIME THEY WANT, ALSO ABLE TO GIVE LESSONS TO PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN ARCHERY AND ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMPETE. I'VE ALREADY SAID THIS A COUPLE TIMES, BUT WE JUST SEE IT AS A TOOL THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO CONNECT AS WELL. THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT WE BELIEVE WE WILL ATTRACT, ONE IS FAMILIES AND YOUTH. ON A WEEKLY BASIS, EVEN TODAY JUST THROUGH OUR WEBSITE SAYING, THIS IS POTENTIALLY COMING. WE GET PEOPLE ASKING, CAN I GET A LESSON, CAN I COME OUT WITH MY SON. PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING IT RECREATIONALLY, PEOPLE THAT LOVE TO HUNT. SO BEFORE THE SEASON THEY WANT TO COME GET DIALED IN. AND COMPETITIVE ARCHERS AS WELL. PEOPLE THAT JUST LOVE TO TARGET SHOOT. I DON'T IMAGINE IT BEING A BIG DEAL. IF YOU ASK MY SON WHAT WE WERE BUILDING HE'D PROBABLY COMMUNICATE THAT WE WERE BUILDING BASS PRO. WE ARE NOT DOING THAT. BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST A LOW INTENSITY OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR. THREE AND A HALF ACRES, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO USE THE T'S ON THE SIDE OF IT, BUT MOST OF IT IS AROUND 2 ACRES THAT WE WOULD BE USING. WE HAVE THE DEDICATED BACKSTOP TREES, COVERED INSTRUCTIONAL AREA. AND ACCESSORY BUILDING TO PUT TARGETS, LAWN MOWERS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. PARKING SPACES. PROPOSED HOURS, OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS TODAY BUT I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY DURING DAYLIGHT HOURS MORE THAN ANYTHING. AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH THESE PICTURES. WHEN IT COMES TO THE HEART OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, IT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN. PEOPLE SPENDING TIME TOGETHER, ESPECIALLY FATHERS AND SONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD LOVE TO ANSWER THEM. >> I DO WANT TO ADD A COUPLE OF POINTS TO JASON'S PRESENTATION. ONE, YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD SUPPORT TEAM HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. WHEN WE STARTED THIS OVER TEN MONTHS AGO AND JASON CAME IN AND SAID, HOW DO WE MAKE THIS WORK ON THIS LAND, THE THOUGHT PROCESS AND A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK FROM COUNTY STAFF -- AND THIS IS NOT ANYTHING NEGATIVE. IT'S A GREAT STORY. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS FITS IN. IT LOOKS LIKE THIS FITS INTO A GUN RANGE. AND YOU'RE EITHER GOING TO NEED TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS OR MAYBE AN AMENDMENT TO REZONING. WE ASKED THE COUNTY COMMISSION IF THEY WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, BECAUSE THERE WASN'T A SEPARATE SECTION IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR ARCHERY. THE COUNTY COMMISSION IN MARCH AND APRIL TOOK US UP AND UNANIMOUSLY MADE A CHANGE TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO FACILITATE US GETTING TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, BEING ASKING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THAT'S A BIT OF THE HISTORY SO YOU CAN SEE THE INSIGHT. AS LONG AS MANY OF US HAVE BEEN DOING THIS IN THE COUNTY, WE THINK THE 700 PLUS PAGE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE COVERS EVERYTHING BUT THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT COMES UP THAT'S TIME TO TIME DIFFERENT OR UNIQUE. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE FEEL GOOD STORIES, AT LEAST AS WE SEE IT. THE OTHER THING IS FROM A TECHNICAL LAWYER PERSPECTIVE, SO OFTEN WE COME UP... AND THE ORDER WORKS OUT BEING FINE. THIS APPLICATION PROVIDES THAT [00:20:03] IT'S NOT TRANSFERABLE IN JASON MCKENZIE'S NAME. WE WOULD REALLY LIKE THE APPLICATION IN THE FINAL ORDER TO SAY THAT IT'S TRANSFERABLE. THAT'S THE ONLY TECHNICAL THING I HAD FOR YOU. >> OKAY. AGENCY MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS? I'M LOOKING AT THE CONDITIONS TO SEE ABOUT TRANSFERABLE. THAT'S ALREADY HERE. >> IT'S CORRECT IN THE ORDER. >> I'M LOOKING. MR. SMITH, ARE YOU SEEING ANYTHING? AND IT DOES SAY PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION 9:00 A.M. TO 8:00 P.M. SO YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T SURE ABOUT THE HOURS. ARE YOU WORKING WITHIN THOSE? >> YEAH. >> I THINK EARLIER WILL BE FINE AS LONG AS IT'S NOT LATER. CONDITION ONE. NONTRANSFERABLE. SO YOU WOULD LIKE US TO ADJUST. THANK YOU. >> UNDER NUMBER 1 WE WOULD LIKE TRANSFERABILITY, CORRECT. >> OKAY. I WILL HAVE MR LABANOWSKI -- >> HOW ABOUT IF I TELL A DEER STORY? >> DON'T LIE. GOD DOESN'T LIKE LIES. >> I SEE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BERM OUT THERE. HOW MUCH IMPACT DO YOU DO ON THE WETLANDS THERE? >> AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE. IN THE WETLANDS, OBVIOUSLY WHERE THE LINE IS. WHERE I'M ASSUMING THE LINE IS, WE MIGHT HAVE TARGETS BACK THERE. LIKE A 3D DEER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT THERE WON'T BE ANY BUILDING. >> AND YOU'LL HAVE TO CLEAR OUT THE TREES. >> IT WILL NOT BE TOTALLY CLEAR. IF ANYTHING, WE WILL JUST GET RID OF THE BRUSH. >> WHAT'S THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING? I THINK I MISSED IT. >> I DON'T HAVE IT MEMORIZED. 15 FEET? DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? >> YOU CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE EXCEEDING THE COUNTY'S HEIGHT LIMITATION. >> I'M JUST WONDERING WHETHER SHOOTING FROM THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING IS MORE ABOUT PROTECTION TO THE STREET. >> THAT'LL BE PLENTY. >> ARE YOU ALLOWING CROSSBOWS AND ARROWS AS WELL? >> NO, SIR. WE DON'T PLAN ON DOING ANYTHING WITH CROSSBOWS. >> I'LL LET YOU HAVE THAT AS A CONDITION. MAINLY BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT RESIDENTS AROUND, AND CROSSBOWS ARE A LOT STRONGER THAN REGULAR BOWS. I'VE USED BOTH. THAT'S ALL I HAD, THANKS. >> YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. YOU'RE SHOOTING TO THE WEST, RIGHT? >> CORRECT. NO, TOWARD THE EAST. TOWARD THE PRESERVE, THE PROTECTED LAND. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> THAT WOULD BE KIND OF INTENSE IF WE WERE GOING THE OTHER WAY. >> I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. CAN I SEE THE BACK OF YOUR SHIRT? YOU BROUGHT IT UP. ONE THING, GOD DOES NOT LIKE LYING, SO PLEASE LET THAT BE THE FIRST THING WHEN YOUR FAMILY AND FAITH PEOPLE COME IN. NO STRETCHING THE TRUTH. JUST GIVING YOU A HARD TIME. WILL YOU BE RENTING EQUIPMENT FOR TRAINING? THOSE LOOK LIKE SOME PRETTY FANCY BOWS. I'VE NEVER SEEN THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT WAS PRETTY COOL. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. I GUESS WE'RE BACK TO PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I THINK THEIR PRESENCE IS JUST MAKING A STATEMENT, SO WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE ARE GOING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. TRYING TO GET YOU, THERE YOU GO. >> MOTION TO APPROVE SPECIAL USE PERMIT 2026-01 BASED UPON EIGHT FINDINGS OF FACT AND TEN CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT, CHANGING CONDITION NUMBER 1, SO THAT IT'S TRANSFERABLE. AND WAS THERE SOMETHING ELSE? >> NO CROSSBOWS. >> AND ADDING A CONDITION THAT DOES NOT ALLOW CROSSBOWS. >> WE HAVE A MOTION. LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0. CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> GREAT. [3. NZVAR 2026-13 Chase Bank Wall Signs. Request for a Non-Zoning Variance, pursuant to Section 7.02.04.B.6 of the Land Development Code, to allow for three (3) wall signs in lieu of the required maximum one (1) wall sign per tenant space, as prescribed within the Elevation Pointe at Anderson Park PUD (ORD. 1996 66, as amended), specifically located at 2905 State Road 16. ] [00:25:06] ITEM NUMBER 3. WE WILL HAVE MISS JENNIFER ROSENBERG FROM GO PERMIT UP. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR COMMUNICATION FROM THE AGENCY MEMBERS. MR. OLSON, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> I VISITED THE SITE YESTERDAY. >> THANK YOU. MR LABANOWSKI. >> I VISITED THE SITE AS WELL AS I DRIVE BY IT ALMOST EVERY OTHER DAY. >> OKAY. I DID A SITE VISIT AS WELL. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE. >> MY NAME IS JENNIFER RONNEBURGER. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF CHASE BANK. WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING FOR TWO ADDITIONAL WALL SIGNS TODAY. WE DID BY RIGHT GET ONE WALL SIGN ON THE FRONT ELEVATION AND WE DO HAVE A FREE STANDING SIGN. WE ARE HERE ASKING FOR TWO ADDITIONAL WALL SIGNS. THE TWO SIGNS ARE THE SAME SIZE, LOOK, ILLUMINATION AS THE ONES THAT ARE EXISTING. THE REASON WE ARE HERE ASKING IS BECAUSE THE FRONT OF OUR BUILDING, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORIENTATION, B '02 IS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. B01 IS THE ENTRANCE. THE WAY THE PROPERTY IS ALLOCATED, THERE WAS NO WAY FOR US TO TURN TO HAVE THE FRONT TOWARD THE STREET. WE WOULD LIKE A SIGN THERE OVER THE FRONT ENTRANCE. AND FOR B02, BECAUSE OF THE CURVE OF THE ROAD WITH THE LUSH LANDSCAPING AND EVERYTHING, IT'S HARD TO SEE THAT BUILDING. I'M JUST GOING TO SCROLL THROUGH THESE RIGHT HERE. AGAIN, B02 AND G '01, EXCUSE ME, ARE THE FREE STANDING WALL SIGNS WE ALREADY HAVE. THIS IS A SOUTHEAST SIGN. ALSO OUR BUILDING IS 87 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, SO PRETTY FAR SET BACK. AGAIN THIS IS OVER THE FRONT DOOR OF THE ENTRANCE, AND THIS ELEVATION FACES INTERNAL TO THE PROPERTY. B03, SAME THING. 87 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY, HELPS IDENTIFY NEW BUSINESS AROUND THE CURVE OF THE ROAD, AND IS ALSO A LOT OF LANDSCAPING AND TREES AND STUFFIN THAT AREA. I KNOW IN THE STAFF REPORT YOU HAVE A PICTURE THAT YOU CAN SEE THE SIGN FROM THE FRONT AND THE SIDE. THOSE PICTURES ARE TAKEN FROM A VERY DISTINCT POINT OF VIEW, NOT FROM WHERE A DRIVER IS GOING TO COME SEE. HE WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THE PARKING LOT IN ORDER TO SEE BOTH TOGETHER. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE ASKING FOR DUAL BRANDING. WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR VISIBILITY FROM THE ROAD. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM AGENCY MEMBERS? MR. OLSON, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> YES. I CAN SEE THAT THE BUILDING IS SORT OF TUCKED BACK INTO BEHIND -- IT'S NOT DIRECTLY ACCESSIBLE FROM THE ENTRANCE. YOU HAVE TO TURN RIGHT SHARPLY. BUT MY QUESTION IS, WILL THERE BE A MONUMENT, WILL THEY BE DOING A MONUMENT SIGN AS WELL ON THAT PROPERTY? IT SEEMS TO ME A MONUMENT SIGN WOULD SOLVE SOME OF THE SIGNAGE AND IDENTIFICATION PROBLEMS AND MAY NOT NECESSITATE THREE SIGNS. >> THERE IS A FREESTANDING SIGN, THAT'S UP THERE ON THE SITE PLAN. THE REASON WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR THE SIGN ON THAT SIDE, WHEN YOU COME AROUND THE CORNER IT'S THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. IT JUST LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT BRANDED, IT LOOKS LIKE NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IT IS. AND CHASE CAN BE JUST NOT SEEN FROM THERE, AND WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR THAT. >> CAN YOU POINT TO THE LOCATION OF THE MONUMENT SIGN, AND IS THIS A CONSOLIDATED SIGN OR ONE THAT JUST HAS CHASE ON IT? >> IT JUST SAYS CHASE ON IT. >> I'M NOT SEEING IT. >> SHE CIRCLED IT, G01. >> I SEE. AND THAT WOULD BE UP AGAINST THE PROPERTY LINE. >> YES. >> THAT WOULD BE VISIBLE FOR PEOPLE APPROACHING FROM THE NORTHWEST. ANYWAY, THAT'S MY QUESTION ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MR LABANOWSKI, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> IS THE CURRENT MONUMENT SIGN THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A LARGE ONE RIGHT NOW? >> THE EXISTING MULTI-TENANT SIGN? WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE ON [00:30:02] THERE. >> THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AGENCY? WE WILL OPEN THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENT, IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. SO BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. MR. MATOVINA. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE NONZONING VARIANCE, CHASE BANK WALL SIGN BASED ON EIGHT FINDINGS OF FACT SUBJECT TO FIVE CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT. >> MOTION BY MR. MATOVINA, SECOND BY MISS PERKINS. LET'S VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES 3-2. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [4. NZVAR 2026-16 Circle K Wall Signs. Request for a Non-Zoning Variance, pursuant to Section 7.02.04.B.6 of the Land Development Code, to allow for additional wall signage within the Elevation Pointe Planned Unit Development, specifically located at 2835 State Road 16. ] >> MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4. I'M GOING TO ASK AGENCY MEMBERS FOR EX PARTE COMMUNICATION FROM THIS ONE. MR LABANOWSKI, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> I VISITED THE SITE. >> MR. WILSON, I'M TRYING TO GET YOU UP. THERE YOU GO. >> VISITED THE SITE. >> I DID A SITE VISIT AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE LINDSAY OIJ, BUT I UNDERSTAND DANIEL, WHICH ONE OF YOU? NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE. >> DAN SCROGGINS, 27 ENTERPRISE DRIVE. >> THERE SHOULD BE A CLICKER UP THERE. >> MY NAME IS CLAYTON. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR A COUPLE ADDITIONAL SIGNS AT THE CIRCLE K ON STATE ROAD 16. A PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY APPRAISER HERE SHOWING THE PROPERTY OUTLIN AND THE CURRENT PUD RESTRICTION, ALLOWING ONLY ONE WALL SIGN AND ONE GAS CANOPY SIGN. THESE ARE ALL THE CURRENT SIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED. UP FRONT WAS APPROVED. WE ARE ASKING FOR THE TOTAL SIGN ON THIS ELEVATION AND THE SHOP SIGN ON THIS ELEVATION AS WELL AS AN ADDITIONAL GAS CANOPY SIGN ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION. THIS IS JUST A LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWING SOME EXISTING AND SOME LANDSCAPE THAT'S GOING IN. THIS WAS PART OF THE APPROVED PACKAGE, WHICH WAS A MONUMENT SIGN THAT'S OUT THERE CURRENTLY. THIS IS THE WALL SIGN THAT WAS ALSO APPROVED. THIS IS ONE OF THE WALL SIGNS THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR AS AN EXCEPTION, GIVEN THE VISIBILITY AND THE OTHER SHOP SIGN THAT WE WERE ALSO ASKING DURING THIS VARIANCE. THIS IS A TOP VIEW OF THE GAS CANOPY SHOWING DOWN LIGHTING. SO THE SOUTH ELEVATION IS WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING. THE EAST ONE WAS APPROVED UNDER THE CODE. AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN SHOWING THE EXISTING DIRECTIONAL SIGNS UNDER THE CURRENT CODE AS WELL. WE DON'T BELIEVE -- SORRY. TRYING TO FIND MY SPOT HERE. THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS TO PERMIT ADDITIONAL WALL SIGNS CONSISTING OF TWO CANOPY WALL SIGNS AND THREE BUILDING WALL SIGNS. SIMILAR PROPERTIES VERY CLOSE TO THIS REQUESTED PROPERTY HAVE TRADITIONAL GAS CANOPY SIGNS AND MULTIPLE WALL SIGNS. WE JUST HAPPENED TO BE IN THAT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT UNIT THAT RESTRICTS THEM. SO THESE ARE BOTH WITHIN A MILE FROM THE CIRCLE K. WHO ALL HAVE VERY TRADITIONAL SIGNAGE ABOVE THEIR GAS CANOPY AND FAIRLY TRADITIONAL WALL SIGNS AS WELL. THE DISTANCE FROM THE SIGNS TO THE RIGHT OF WAY, WE WERE OVER [00:35:03] 200 FEET AWAY ON ALL SIGNS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING FOR. AS WELL AS THE FUEL CANOPY, 124 FEET, AND 142 FEET AWAY FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. DUE TO THE SETBACKS AND THE ORIENTATION OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S WHY WE ARE REQUESTING THESE EXTRA SIGNS SPECIFICALLY ON THE GAS CANOPY TO ENSURE THAT MOTORISTS HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO SLOW DOWN AND SAFELY EXIT STATE ROAD 16, MAKE SAFE LANE CHANGES. SORRY. WE DON'T BELIEVE THE PROPOSED SIGNS WILL ALTER THE CHARACTER OR PROPERTY VALUE OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. OTHER GAS STATIONS VERY CLOSE AGAIN HAVE THE SAME SIGNS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TO THE AGENCY NOW FOR QUESTIONS. MR. OLSON, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> YES. THE CIRCLE K IS IN A HIGHLY VISIBLE LOCATION. IT'S HARD NOT TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. IN PART BECAUSE THE INTERSECTION EXPOSES A LOT, PLUS IT'S A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION UNLIKE THE INTERSECTION FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD AT RACETRAC. PART OF YOUR SUBMISSION HAS THE LOGIC OF NEEDING A MORE ON SITE DIRECTING OF PEOPLE TO DISTINGUISH, THE WAY I READ IT, BETWEEN A CONVENIENCE STORE AND THE FUELING AREA. TO ME THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A STRETCH. I GUESS THAT'S JUST MY VIEW OF IT. IT'S PRETTY EASY TO TELL WHERE THE STORE IS, AND ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE IT HAVE A FUELING AREA AND CONVENIENCE STORE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY CONFUSION. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT OR NOT, BUT THAT'S MY QUESTION. >> IT'S MAINLY FOR THE SIDE ROAD, AND THE ROAD THAT RUNS BEHIND THE CIRCLE K. THAT'S WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT THE SMALL SIGN BACK BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING BACK THERE. THEN ON THAT SIDE ROAD, THAT COMES UP TO 16. SO THEY HAVE VISIBILITY FROM THE STREET OVER THERE. IF YOU'RE COMING UP TOWARDS 16 ON THAT SIDE STREET, YOU WOULDN'T REALLY SEE ANYTHING OVER THERE. >> THANK YOU. >> MRMR LABANOWSKI, YOU OFF THE FLOOR. >> YOUR MONUMENT SIGN IS ONLY GOING TO BE 8 FEET TALL? I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT SHOWED, EIGHT BY 15. >> I BELIEVE SO. >> THANK YOU FOR MAKING IT SHORT. >> NO PROBLEM. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE AGENCY? WE ARE GOING TO NOW CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO COME SPEAK PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE COME WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. AND I GUESS WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. MR. MATOVINA, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> MOTION TO APPROVE NONZONING VARIANCE 2026-16, CIRCLE K WALL SIGNS BASED ON EIGHT FINDINGS OF FACT AND SUBJECT TO FIVE CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. MATOVINA, SECOND BY MR LABANOWSKI. LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. [5. ZVAR 2026-09 103 Sandcastle. A request for a Zoning Variance to Table 6.01 of the Land Development Code to allow for a Side Yard setback of two (2) feet in lieu of the required ten (10) feet, a lot width of twenty (20) feet in lieu of the required minimum width of seventy-five (75) feet, and lot area less than the required minimum 6,000 square feet for the construction of a deck located in Residential, General (RG-1) zoning district, specifically located at 103 Sandcastle Lane. ] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER 5 NOW. DIRK PENZIEN. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK AGENCY MEMBERS FOR EX PARTE. MR LABANOWSKI. >> I VISITED THE SITE. >> MR. OLSON. >> I VISITED THE SITE AND HAD THE OWNER ON THE SITE INVITE ME TO GO THROUGH THE TOWNHOUSE INTO THE BACKYARD SO I COULD SEE THE ACTUAL LOCATION WHERE THE PROJECT IS. >> THANK YOU. I DID A SITE VISIT AS WELL JUST TO SAY HIGH. THANK YOU. YOU MAY GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU. I AM WHITNEY, THIS IS MY HUSBAND DIRK AND WE ARE THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF 103 SANDCASTLE LANE. WE WANT TO ALSO THANK YOU HERE FOR GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE VARIANCE REQUEST TO [00:40:05] PROVIDE RELIEF OF THE SETBACKS, WHILE WE ARE HERE TODAY. I AM A NURSE BY TRADE, SO NOT A SUPER EXPERT ON LAND DEVEL DEVELOPMENT. MY HUSBAND WAS A PROPERTY MANAGER FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS, 25 OF THOSE HERE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY. AND WE ARE 25 YEAR RESIDENTS OF NORTH BEACH AND ENJOY OUR COMMUNITY. WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 2020 FOR, THE TOWNHOUSE, WITH AN ASSUMPTION THAT WE WOULD HAVE SIMILAR OCEAN VIEWS LIKE WE HAVE AT OUR HOME THAT WE BUILT AND SOLD. WE BEGAN THE INTERNAL RENOVATIONS WHICH WERE EXTENSIVE AND TOOK US ABOUT TWO YEARS, SO WE DIDN'T START WORKING ON THE EXTERIOR UNTIL RECENTLY. WE HIRED AN ARCHITECTURAL FIRM WHO DRAFTED THE PROPOSED DECK. AND YOU WILL SEE IN OUR SLIDE PRESENTATION WHY WE MADE THAT ASSUMPTION WHEN WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, HAD IT STRUCTURALLY ENGINEERED AND IT WASN'T UNTIL WE SUBMITTED OUR CLEARANCE SHEET THAT IT WAS IDENTIFIED THIS SETBACK CHALLENGE THAT WE WERE FACING AND AGAIN WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY. THE SLIDE I HAVE UP RIGHT NOW IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF LOT ONE, WHICH IS ZONED RG ONE. THE LOT IS 120 BY 350 FEET AND IT DOES MEET THE RG ONE REQUIREMENTS OF THE 75 FEET WIDTH AND THE 7500 SQUARE FEET. 103 SAND CASTLE LANE, THE SUBJECT MATTER PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN LOT ONE. THIS IS THE SURVEY THAT WE HAD DONE AT THE TIME WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, AND LEADS US TO THE HIGHLIGHTED WOOD DECK STRUCTURE THAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY AND WHY WE WERE REFERENCING THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WOULD SIMPLY BE REMOVING THE DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE, GETTING THE NEW ONE PERMITTED AND APPROVED, AND THAT'S WHERE WE IDENTIFIED THIS CHALLENGE THAT WE ARE HAVING. THIS IS WHERE THE FORK IN THE ROAD SPLITS IN TERMS OF THE RG ONE DILEMMA. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF 103 SAND CASTLE LANE. IN 1987, THE DEVELOPERS DID IMPROVE THE PROPERTY AND BUILT TOWNHOUSES. THEY ALSO PARCELED THEM OUT INDIVIDUALLY. SO THOSE TWO INSIDE LOTS ARE EXCEPTIONALLY NARROW WITHIN THAT LOT ONE. THEY'RE ACTUALLY 20.02 BY 205 FEET LONG AND DO NOT MEET RG ONE REQUIREMENTS. THAT WAS DONE BY THE DEVELOPER IN 1987. WHERE IT COMES TO THE UNIQUE HARDSHIP IS AGAIN, THAT DEVELOPMENT BEING ALLOWED TO REGISTER THOSE PARCELS AS INDIVIDUAL PARCELS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ALSO UNIQUE ABOUT THIS IS, IT'S NOT LIKE THE REST OF OUR COMMU COMMUNITIES. WHEN WE FIND THE LOTS PARCELED THIS WAY, AS WE HISTORICALLY KNOW A TOWNHOUSE WOULD BE DEEDED TO THE OWNER AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES COMMON TO THE AREA. THAT DISTINCTION ALONE IS THE REASON THAT LOT IS NO LONGER MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THOSE SETBACKS THAT WERE BEING HELD TO THE STANDARDS OF THAT EXCEPTIONALLY NARROW LOT, HAVING THE 8-FOOT SETBACKS. IN ADDITION, WE DID GET SIGNATURES FROM NEIGHBORS INCLUDING THE BRAND NEW NEIGHBOR WHO JUST PURCHASED ON THE END. THEY'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD AND ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE MOVES WE'VE MADE SO FAR, WHICH HAVE IMPROVED THE VISUAL ASPECTS OF THAT AREA. WE ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE RESPONSES WE RECEIVED WHEN WE DID SUBMIT OUR VARIANCE REQUEST. ON THIS ONE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SUPERVISOR WITHIN THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT INDICATED THAT THIS DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF RG ONE. AGAIN, IT WAS PARCELED OUT THAT WAY. SO WE ARE IN KIND OF A QUANDARY. THE SECOND SLIDE SAYING THIS WAS THE RESPONSE FOR PLANNING AND ZONING. I THINK THE SLIDE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF THAT WE ARE NOT ALLOTTED RECORDS, SO I GUESS WE ARE JUST HANGING OUT THERE. WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THAT MEANS. IT TOOK ME A LITTLE WHILE TO UNDERSTAND ALL THIS. WE COULD NOT HAVE A RECORD BUT -- HAD TO BE HELD TO THE STANDARDS. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO REQUEST THE ZONING VARIANCE. WE FEEL AS THOUGH WE HAVE MET ALL FOUR OF THOSE CONDITIONS, IT'S NOT CONTRARY TO PUBLIC [00:45:01] INTEREST. THERE'S 12 BY SIX. THERE ARE RAISED DECKS YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED IN THE AERIAL PHOTO, WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PHOTOS FOR REFERENCE THAT ARE NOT PART OF THIS THAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT AFTER THE FACT THAT MIGHT MAKE IT OBVIOUS THAT THE TWO END STRUCTURES HAVE DECKS ALREADY. THERE WAS ALREADY AN EXISTING PLATFORM THERE. WE JUST MADE A HUGE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WOULD ALSO BE ALLOWED TO HAVE AN OCEAN VIEW. AND OF COURSE THE OWNERS HAVE ALL AGREED THIS WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. DUE TO THE PARCELING OF THE LAND, THEY'VE CREATED AN EXCEPTIONALLY NARROW USE AND THE ENFORCEMENT WOULD CAUSE UNDUE HARDSHIP. IT MAY BE OUR HARDSHIP, BUT WE DO HAVE PICTURES TO SHOW THE SIMPLE ALLOWANCE OF THAT SMALL DECK BUT ALLOW US TO VIEW THE OCEAN THAT WE ARE USED TO VIEWING. AND CONSISTENT WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE PURPOSE OF THE CODE, THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT INTENDED FOR LOT ONE AS A WHOLE AND NOT EXCEPTIONALLY NARROW INDIVIDUAL PARCELS THAT WERE LATER CREATED WITHIN THE DIVISION AND THE REQUESTED RELIEF DOES PRESERVE THE INTENT OF THE CODE WITHOUT IMPOSING A SETBACK STANDARD THAT WAS NEVER CONFIGURED. WE ARE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE EXCEPTION, AND THANK YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOING TO THE AGENCY, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU WANT PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST? USUALLY WE HAVE QUESTIONS FIRST. MR. MADDALENA, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> SO YOUR LIVING AREA IS ON THE FIRST FLOOR? >> THE LIVING AREA IS ON THE FIRST. THE SECOND IS THE MASTER BEDROOM. >> SO THE ONLY WAY YOU GET TO THIS DECK IS OUT THE DOOR ON THE BOTTOM AND WALK UP THE STAIRS. >> CORRECT. THEY WERE ORIGINALLY LOTS, AND SO INSIDE THERE'S ZERO VISIBILITY. >> I'M FAMILIAR. >> YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT THE BACK. >> IT'S IN NO WAY CONNECTED. >> IT'S DETACHED, CORRECT. >> WHY WOULDN'T YOU JUST ATTACH IT? >> TO THE STRUCTURE? >> FOR NO WAY TO ACCESS IT FROM THE INSIDE OF THE TOWNHOUSE. >> HOW FAR IS IT FROM THE HOUSE? >> THERE'S A SEWER DRAIN THAT RUNS ALONG THE BACK OF THE SLAB. WE JUST WANT TO PUT IT AWAY. >> THE PICTURES IN THE APPLICATION ARE REALLY DARK. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING BETTER? >> THE ROOF IS REALLY LOW THERE. THAT'S A SEPARATE SUNROOM. >> CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? >> IT'S A SEPARATE SUNROOM ATTACHED. SO TRYING TO GET THE DECK ATTACHED WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO GET OUT THE BACK DOOR. THAT'S WHY WE WERE WANTING IT DETACHED. WE CAN CERTAINLY RECONSIDER THAT, BUT IT WAS THE IDEA THAT WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO IMPEDE WITH THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT OF THE ACTUAL DOOR. >> DOES THAT SATISFY YOUR QUESTION? ANYONE ELSE? >> THAT'S KIND OF A VISUAL. >> MR LABANOWSKI? >> DO YOU HAVE PICTURES OF THE PREVIOUS DECK OR NOT? >> NO. >> OKAY. >> NO QUESTIONS? OKAY. I WAS LOOKING FOR SIMILAR FREESTANDING DECKS. A WIDOW'S WALK DOES NOT ATTACHED TO THE HOUSE. I DID FIND ONE, THERE'S ONE DOWN THE STREET ON TOP OF ANOTHER DECK. BUT IT IS FREESTANDING LIKE THAT. SO THERE IS PRECEDENT FOR IT AND YOU DO HAVE NEIGHBOR SUPPORT. IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS% FROM THE AGENCY, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I APOLOGIZE. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> YOU HAVE AN HOA? HAVE YOU GOT APPROVAL FROM THE HOA? >> WE EMAILED THE HOA WITH OUR ARCHITECTURAL REQUEST BACK IN NOVEMBER. WE DO HAVE EMAILS FROM THAT TRANSACTION, THEY DID NOT RESPOND WITH AN APPROVAL AND ACCORDING TO THE DECLARATION OF THE HOA, IF THEY DO NOT REPLY WITHIN 30 DAYS IT'S AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMED TO BE [00:50:04] APPROVED. >> DID THEY EVER REPLY? >> NO. >> THEY DID REPLY THAT THEY GOT IT, THEY JUST NEVER PURSUED FINALIZING. SO WE HAVE THE EMAIL THAT THE MANAGER RECEIVED OF THE REQUEST FROM MANAGEMENT. >> THANK YOU. >> HERE IS THE ORIGINAL THAT WE SENT. >> ALL RIGHT. GOING TO PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND MAKE YOUR OPINION KNOWN. SEEING NONE, I CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. MR LABANOWSKI, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> JUST QUICK, MAKE SURE YOU GIVE THOSE DOCUMENTS TO THE CLERK. THANK YOU. >> MR. OLSON. >> YES. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ZONING VARIANCE. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, HAVING LIVED IN IT FOR 11 YEARS ON THE INTERCOASTAL SIDE. THIS BUILDING, AS THE APPLICANT SAID, IS 40 YEARS OLD AND IT'S PROBABLY THE OLDEST BUILDING ALONG THE A ONE A FRONTAGE THAT HAS NOT BEEN RENOVATED OR NEWLY BUILT, MORE RECENTLY BUILT. IT'S BEEN CRYING OUT FOR RENOVATION. THE FOUR UNIT BUILDING, THE SUBJECT BEFORE US, WAS REPORTED -- HAS ALMOST HAD ITS RENOVATION COMPLETED AND I WOULD EXPECT WOULD ADD LOCATION VALUE TO THE BUILDING AND INSPIRE OTHERS TO ALSO RENOVATE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE ZONING VARIANCE 2026-09 AT 103 SANDCASTLE LANE. SORRY. BASED ON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT AND SIX CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFFING REPORT. >> MOTION BY MR. WILSON. SECOND BY MR LABANOWSKI. LET'S GO AHEAD AND REGISTER THE VOTE. I JUST WANT TO SAY, IT IS VERY NICE. I DRIVE AROUND THE BACK AND YOU'VE DONE A NICE JOB. IT LOOKS IMPROVED. >> WE ARE VERY PROUD OF IT. >> THAT PASSES 5-0. [Staff Reports ] GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR DECK. >> THANK YOU. >> SEEING NO MORE AGENCY ITEMS TODAY, I WANTED TO ASK MR. SMITH IF HE HAS ANY COMMENTS FOR US. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. NO SPECIFIC COMMENTS, JUST TO INFORM THE AGENCY THAT [Agency Reports ] SEPTEMBER 17TH IS OUR UPCOMING MEETING. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. I HAVE A COMMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE BEFORE WE ADJOURN. I JUST WANTED TO SAY, WE ARE IN A DIFFICULT TIME BASED ON THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF OUT OF OUR CONTROL WITH COUNTY EMPLOYEES. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE EMPLOYEES OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY. WE HAVE SOME REMARKABLE, SMART, COMMITTED, KIND, PATIENT EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE WONDERFUL LEADERS LIKE MR. SMITH AND MR. ROBERTSON. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NEGATIVE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID ABOUT OUR STAFF THAT AREN'T BASED ON FACTS, THEY ARE JUST BASED ON HEARSAY. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, YOU DO A FINE JOB, YOU'RE ALWAYS RESPECTFUL, PATIENT, PREPARED. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AND ALL OF OUR COUNTY FOR WHAT YOU DO. I KNOW THIS IS A HARD TRANSITION FOR THE COUNTY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO HANG IN THERE. WE ARE DOING GOOD. AGREE? ALL RIGHT. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. MR., I APOLOGIZE. >> I DO SECOND THAT MOTION, I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT ORIGINALLY. >> THANK YOU. >> AND NUMBER 2, I'M SCHEDULED TO BE ON VACATION NEXT MEETING, BUT THAT MAY CHANGE. SO I MAY END UP BEING HERE. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.