Feb 04, 2020 Board of County Commissioners

[Call to Order]

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>> GOOD MORNING. I WILL NOW CALL TO ORDER THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE ST.

JOHNS COUNTY COMMISSION, FEBRUARY 4, 2020. MADAME CLARK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

AND KIM HERZOG WILL GIVE US THE INVOCATION. >> LET US PRAY.

LORD, GOD, DURING THIS YEAR OF 2020, OPEN OUR EYES WITH THE PERFECT VISION TO SEE YOUR HAND AT WORK IN THEM. MAY OUR HEARTS BE SET ABLAZE WITH SUCH PASSION FOR YOU THAT LIKE SAINT AUGUSTINE, WE TOO, MAY COME TO A DEEPER KNOWLEDGE AND LOVE OF YOU.

LORD GOD, YOU ARE THE FOUNDATION OF OUR CITY. BLESS THE CITY COMMISSIONERS AS THEY GO BOUT YOUR WORK IN OUR CITY. GRANT THEM A SHARE OF YOUR WISDOM SO THAT THEIR DECISIONS MAY ALIGN WITH YOUR WILL. GRANT THEM A SHARE OF HER JUSTICE SO THAT INEQUALITY MAY BE FOR THE COMMON GOOD. AND GRANT THEM A SHARE OF YOUR HUMILITY THAT THEY MAY BE YOUR SERVANTS IN THE WORLD. THESE THINGS WE ASK A VIEW IN

YOUR HOLY NAME, AMEN. >> WOULD YOU PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> MR. JOHNS: YOU MAY BE SEATED.

WE WILL NOW OPEN UP FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> GOOD MORNING.

[Public Comment]

NO PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH PERSONAL IMPERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR. MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ANY DISRUPTIVE DEMONSTRATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS. FINALLY, I WOULD ASK ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS ANY OVERHEAD MATERIAL PLEASE PRESENT THE MATERIAL TO THE STAFF OF THE CLERK OF COURT TO MY RIGHT YOUR LIFE TO BE ENTERED.

WE HAVE TWO PODIUMS HERE. PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> I AM CHERYL AVENUE C I LIVE AT 356 KATE AVENUE. THERE'S NOTHING ON THE AGENDA BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO BRING UP.

I SIMPLY AM COMING BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN MOST UPSET AND FELT I OWED IT TO THE BOARD TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO YOU INSTEAD OF OUTSIDE DISCUSSION. I BEGAN WORK FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN 1962 AND RETIRED IN 2008. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS AND BOARDS I HAVE WORKED UNDER. I HAVE BEEN MOST UPSET ABOUT THE WAY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION POSITION WAS HANDLED.

I DO NOT SAY THAT YOU DID ANYTHING ILLEGAL, I ONLY SAY THAT IT CERTAINLY WAS QUESTIONABLE. THERE WERE MANY THINGS THAT WERE DONE THAT DO NOT SEEM KOSHER. I HAVE NEVER KNOWN US TO JUST HIRE A PERSON OUT OF THE BLUE.

I THINK IT WAS AN INSULT TO COUNTY EMPLOYEES WHO DO GOOD JOBS THAT THEY WERE NOT GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO STEP UP TO THIS JOB. I DO NOT KNOW THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE GENTLEMAN THAT YOU HIRED. I ONLY KNOW WHAT I READ IN THE PAPER. UNFORTUNATELY, ACCORDING TO THE PAPER, THE COMMISSIONERS ONLY ADDRESSED HIS PERSONAL ATTRIBUTES. HE'S A GOOD FATHER, GOOD PERSON, THEY HAD COACHED HIS SISTER IN SOCCER. NOTHING WAS SAID ABOUT HIS CREDENTIALS TO DO THIS JOB. I AM VERY SORRY TO HAVE TO DO THIS.

I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU COMMISSIONERS ON A PERSONAL LEVEL.

I ACTUALLY VOTED FOR SOME OF YOU THAT I DID NOT KNOW BECAUSE I DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT YOU AND YOU WERE RECOMMENDED TO ME AS BEING A GOOD COMMISSIONER.

I AM NOT SAYING YOU'RE NOT GOOD COMMISSIONERS, BUT I THINK YOU MADE A GROSS MISTAKE WITH HOW

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>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, I AM HOWARD MIKE MATHENY. I AM A RESIDENT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. AND I DON'T MEAN TO DISAGREE WITH ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL RESIDENTS INCLUDING US THAT APPLAUD YOU FOR YOUR DECISION-MAKING. UNLIKE SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE SPOKEN ON PUBLIC COMMENT, I HAVE KNOWN HUNTER CONRAD FOR OVER 10 YEARS BOTH PERSONALLY AND I KNOW WHAT HE'S CAPABLE OF PROFESSIONALLY AND I KNOW THAT I VOTED FOR HIM AND HE HAD MY VOTE. HE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE MY SUPPORT.

THE MAIN THING I WANT TO BRING UP ABOUT HIS CHARACTER WHICH IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE I BELIEVE HE STANDS ON HIS EXPERIENCE AND WAS ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY RUN A CAMPAIGN TO BECOME THE CLERK OF COURTS. WHILE I DIDN'T ORIGINALLY ENVISION HUNTER IN THAT ROLE AFTER SPEAKING WITH HIM IN PERSON AND A COUPLE OF YOU AS WELL.

IT BECAME EVIDENT THAT HE WAS THE RIGHT GUY FOR THE JOB. TRUST, INTEGRITY, CHARACTER, LEADERSHIP, FAITH AND WILLINGNESS TO STAND IN THE GAP ARE IMPORTANT TRAITS THAT A MAN OR A WOMAN SHOULD SHOW IN ORDER TO HAVE A LEADERSHIP ROLE. NOW, THE EXPERIENCE OF HAVING AN EXECUTIVE POSITION AND LEADING A COUNTY OF THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES AND QUITE HONESTLY THERE'S A LOT OF AGENDAS OUT THERE WE HAVE A LOT OF GROUPS OUT THERE IN THE COUNTY MIDFIELD WE SHOULD GO IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. MANAGING THE COUNTY AS LARGE AS OURS. THE GROWTH OF THE ENTIRE COUNTRY IS NOT AN EASY TASK.

SO SOMETHING I CAN TELL YOU Ã TWO THINGS ABOUT HUNTER. HE REJECTS PASSIVITY AND HE LEADS COURAGEOUSLY. HE HAS MY VOTE, HE HAS MY CONFIDENCE, I WILL DO ANYTHING I CAN TO SUPPORT HIM AND HIS STAFF AS I KNOW HE WILL FOR YOU.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD. PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.

PLEASE COME FORWARD. MR. CHAIRMAN, NOT SEEN ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS

TIME WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT >> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT NOW

[Consent Agenda]

AGENDA? >> NONE. >> NO SIR.

>> NONE. >> COMMISSIONER JOBS? ADMINISTRATION

>> >> NO, SIR. >> WE WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE

CONSENT ITEM 13 AND IT WILL BE PLACED ON ÃPROBABLY IN MARCH. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO

AMEND WITH THE DELETION OF NUMBER 13 >> I MOVED TO APPROVE THE

CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE AMENDED TO REMOVE ITEM 13. >> SECOND

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE,

[Regular Agenda]

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD WITHDRAW AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH OUR COUNTY STAFF ABOUT THIS. HIS ISN'T MY DISTRICT. HAVE HERD FROM A COUPLE OF THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO DISCUSS THIS

PWITH STAFF BEFORE WE BRING THI BEFORE THE BOARD >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. RECOMMEND TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

>> NONE >> NONE >>

>> MR. CHAIR, NOT FOR AN ADDITION OR DELETION TO THE REGULAR AGENDA BUT I DID WANT TO GIVE THE BOARD A HEADS UP IN COMMENTS I WILL BRING UP THE CANVASSING BOARD AND ALSO GEAA.

IF ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WANTED TO MAKE THOSE A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM YOU MAY, BUT

OTHERWISE IT'S MY INTENTION TO BRING THIS UP IN REPORTS. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> THEY WILL BEGIN THE REGULAR AGENDA WITH THE PRESENTATION.

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>> >> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY

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THE EVENT WAS HELD NOVEMBER 21 OF THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE CONFERENCE CENTER.

WE HAD A TOTAL OF 105 ATTENDEES AND THE REPRESENTATIVES WERE ST. JOHN'S, FLAGLER, VOLUSIA, AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE HAD A NUMBER OF ELECTED OFFICIALS IN ATTENDANCE AND THEY INCLUDED STATE REPRESENTATIVE ELIZABETH BETTER HALF, JANET MCDONALD, KELLY BARRERA FROM THE SCHOOL BOARDS, COMMISSIONER JUSTIN TAYLOR FROM NASA, VICE MAYOR LEN KREGER FROM FERNANDINA BEACH AND ROD SALEM FROM THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS SUMMIT WAS TO DISCUSS A LOCAL IMPACT OF THE YOUTH VAPING CRISIS, DISCUSS POLICY SOLUTIONS AND SYSTEMS CHANGES AND TO LEAVE THE SUMMIT WITH A CLEAR LIST OF POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR OUR STATE AND OUR ELECTED LOCAL OFFICIALS.

THE AGENDA COVERED ÃWE HAD AN OVERVIEW OF KEY DATA, YOUTH VERSUS ADULT USE, HEALTH CONSEQUENCES OF NICOTINE USE AND STATE POLICY GAPS. THE KEYNOTE SPEECH WAS BY MR. RON DAVIS WHO WAS A STATEWIDE POLICY SUPERVISOR FOR THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, BUREAU OF TOBACCO FREE FLORIDA, AND THEN WE HAD A LOCAL EXPERTS PANEL, WHICH INCLUDED A YOUTH REPRESENTATIVE, SCHOOL DISTRICT, LAW ENFORCEMENT, A FLAGLER COLLEGE REPRESENTATIVE, THE MILITARY, TWO PHYSICIANS, A BUREAU OF TOBACCO FREE FLORIDA STATE POLICY MANAGER AND AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. AND THEN AFTER OUR PANEL DISCUSSION, WE BROKE OUT INTO SMALL GROUPS AND WE HAD THE GROUP SO THAT THERE WERE A MIX OF PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT COUNTIES SO WE DIDN'T HAVE GROUP OF ONE COUNTY SITTING TOGETHER.

AND THESE SMALL FOCUS GROUPS HAVE COVERSATIONS AND SOME CONSENSUSBUILDING ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK THE NECESSARY POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO ADDRESS THE YOUTH VAPING CRISIS.

AND WE HAVE A FEW PICTURES HERE TO SHOW YOU. WE HAD 105 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE AND THE PARTICIPATES INCLUDED HEALTH DEPARTMENT, ADMINISTRATORS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, SERVICE AGENCIES, ELECTED OFFICIALS AND I THINK IT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO THE MAGNITUDE OF THE PROBLEM WHEN THIS MANY COMMUNITY LEADERS COME TOGETHER AND SPEND A MORNING IN ONE PLACE TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIND SOLUTIONS.

THE YOUTH VAPING EPIDEMIC IMPACTS A LOT OF AGENCIES IN ADDITION TO OUR YOUTH AND OUR COMMUNITY. FROM THE BREAKOUT GROUPS, POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS WERE MADE. THE NUMBER ONE POLICY RECOMMENDATION WAS TO HAVE A LOCAL TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSE. ANOTHER ONE WAS TO INCREASE THE SALES AGE TO 21, LIMIT OR BAN FLAVORS, AND PROHIBIT SAMPLING OF ELECTRONIC PRODUCTS AND TOBACCO PRODUCTS.

SECONDARY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THIS WAS TO RESTRICT ADVERTISING, RESTRICT SALES LOCATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, NEAR SCHOOLS, TO INCREASE THE SALES TAX ON TOBACCO PRODUCTS REQUIRE A TAX ON ELECTRONIC ENDS PRODUCTS. TO REQUIRE MANUFACTURERS TO REMOVE THE MASKING AGENTS, WHICH WILL PROBABLY MORE OF A STATE-LEVEL CHANGE, AND INTERNET SALES AND REQUIRE A SIGNATURE OR ID FOR ONLINE SALES DELIVERIES.

IN ADDITION TO THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS MADE, AND THEY ARE MORE IN THE AREA OF COMMUNITY AWARENESS AND EDUCATION. NUMBER OF THESE ITEMS ARE ALREADY TAKING PLACE IN OUR COMMUNITY, PARTNERS ACROSS THE REGION ARE ENGAGING IN A NUMBER OF THEM. BUT OUR PARTNERS ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS A STRONG NEED FOR POLICY TO SUPPORT TRUE CHANGE IN USE. AND SINCE THE SUMMIT, WE HAVE HAD SOME THINGS TRANSPIRE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE AND DAILIES HAVE COORDINATED TOGETHER TO HAVE A YOUTH ANTI-VAPING CAMPAIGN AND SINCE THE SUMMIT, ALL THE COUNTIES IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA HAVE CREATED A TASK FORCE AND EACH OF THEIR COUNTIES TO ADDRESS YOUTH VAPING. EVERYONE PROBABLY HAS HEARD THAT SINCE THE SUMMIT IN DECEMBER THE FEDERAL ÃAT THE BAR OF THE LEVER, TOBACCO 21 WAS PASSED AND IT WAS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. SO THE FACTS ARE FDA WILL CONTINUE TO ENFORCE THE SALES AGE. THEY WILL ENFORCE ÃTHE ENFORCEMENT LOCALLY WITH THE

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THOUGH SOME LOCAL LAWS DO HAVE THOSE TYPES OF PENALTIES. ON JANUARY 2, THEY DID HAVE A FLAVOR BAN ON E CIGARETTES, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING, BECAUSE THIS MAN ONLY REFERS TO CARTRIDGE-BASED PRODUCTS. AND IT'S A TWO-PART UNIT.

BUT NOT BANNED IN THIS ARE REFILLABLE UNITS, THE FLAVORED E LIQUIDS WHICH ARE ABOUT 15,000 FLAVORS OF LIQUIDS AND IT ALSO DOES NOT INCLUDE SELF-CONTAINED UNITS, WHICH ARE THE DISPOSABLES, WHICH ARE KIND OF BECOMING THE NEW JUUL USE. WE HAVE ONE PRODUCT AFTER THAT IS HIGHLY POPULAR CALLED PUFF BAR AND THEY ARE FLAVORED UNITS THAT ARE DISPOSABLE.

AND SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT LAW IS GOING TO REALLY HAVE MUCH OF AN IMPACT BECAUSE THE FLAVORS ARE STILL OUT THERE. LOCALLY, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE SOME BILLS, PROBABLY THE ONE WITH THE MOST PASSION RIGHT NOW IS SENATE BILL 810, WHICH IS THE TOBACCO 21 LAW, AND YOU KNOW, WE WILL PROBABLY SEE THIS PASS BECAUSE IT WILL ALIGN AT THE STATE WITH THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND ALSO IT'S BETTER WITH THE SIGNER FUNDING TO HAVE THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL LAW LINED UP. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF THINGS WILL BE AMENDED IN THIS LAW, IF ANY OF THE LOOPHOLES WILL BE CLOSED OR NOT.

WE WILL JUST HAVE TO SEE AS IT CONTINUES TO GO THROUGH COMMITTEES.

IT WAS IN THE INNOVATIONS COMMITTEE YESTERDAY. ANOTHER ONE WITH TRACTION IS TAXING THESE PRODUCTS. THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY TAXED AND THEN WE HAVE THE FLAVORS WHICH HAVE NOT GONE INTO ANY COMMITTEES YET. SO THIS WILL PROBABLY DIE OUT.

LOCALLY, IN ADDITION TO HAVING A TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSE, SOME CONSIDERATIONS ARE WITH OUR LOCAL LAWS WE HAVE TWO ORDINANCES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. ONE IS A PLACEMENT ORDINANCE AND ONE IS FOR FLAVORED PRODUCTS. THERE ARE NUMEROUS THINGS THE PROBABLY SHOULD BE UPDATED AND NEEDS. THE STATEMENT OF RATIONALE AND STATISTICS NEED TO BE UPDATED TO INCLUDE TRADITIONAL TOBACCO PRODUCTS BUT ALSO THE ELECTRONIC NICOTINE DISPENSING DEVICES, THE AGE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED FROM 18 TO 21 IN BOTH ORDINANCES. THE ORDINANCES NEED AN UPDATED DEFINITION OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS TO INCLUDE ENDS. OTHER DEFINITIONS NEED TO BE UPDATED TO INCLUDE ENDS FOR EXAMPLE COMPONENT PARTS, FLAVORED TOBACCO PARTS, AND THEN POSSIBLY REDEFINING OR CLARIFYING SPECIALTY TOBACCO STORES OR AT A SEPARATE CATEGORY OR DEFINITION FOR THE BAIT SHOPS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SORT OF FINISH UP HERE THAT LAWS ARE SUCCESSFUL WHEN THEY ARE UNDERSTOOD AND WHEN THEY ARE ENFORCED.

AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE PURPOSE OF A TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSES.

AND I HOPE THAT IN THE FUTURE, WE CAN HAVE SOME MORE DIALOGUE AND CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND WORK TOGETHER AND BRING THE COMMISSIONERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT SOME OF THE COMMUNITY AGENCIES TOGETHER AND SEE HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO FIND SOLUTIONS.

RIGHT NOW, THE PROBLEM ISN'T EVEN STABILIZING IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

I TALKED IT TO A YOUTH RESOURCE OFFICER LAST WEEK AND THE NUMBERS OF YOUTH STILL VAPING IS INCREASING. RIGHT NOW, WE ARE SEEING THE LEVELS AT ALMOST 26 PERCENT, WHICH IS REALLY WHERE WE WERE BACK IN 1999 WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WITH TOBACCO PREVENTION. SO WE REALLY HAVE SEEN BACK AT THE 1999 LEVEL AND IT'S INCREASING TOO. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION ON THIS

ISSUE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MISS STEINBERG.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? >> FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TEAM AND YOUR EFFORT PUTTING TOGETHER THIS INFORMATION. THIS IS VERY HELPFUL AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO MEET WITH US AND EXPLAIN THIS.

THIS AFFECTS FAMILIES AND THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I APPRECIATE IT. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS GOING TO ASK IF YOU WOULD ENTERTAIN SOME DISCUSSION AND MAYBE TALKING TO OUR LEGAL STAFF ABOUT UPDATING THE ORDINANCES.

THAT WOULD BE WORTH LOOKING INTO. MR. MCCORMICK?

>> YES, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER AND THE CHAIR. I THINK SHE IS VERY VERSED WITH THIS AND I THINK SOME OF MISS STEINBERG'S COMMENTS ABOUT UPDATING THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY

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ALL WITH KIND OF THE SAME CRITERIA PAGE WISE, THANK YOU. >> AND WOULD YOU MIND PUTTING BACK UP YOUR LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CHANGES TO THE COUNTY ORDINANCE?

>> I THINK THAT WAS A SLIDE 11. IT WAS LIKE 12 >> THANK YOU.

PSO WHAT WE HAVE SEEN HERE IN THE PRESENTATION IS A NUMBER OF PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE COUNTIES ORDINANCES REGARDING TOBACCO PRODUCTS. AND SO AS MR. MCCORMICK INDICATED, AT THE VERY LEAST, AT THE MOMENT THERE IS AN INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN OUR MINIMUM AGE AND THE FEDERAL MINIMUM AGE, AND IT MIGHT BE ADVISABLE TO GO AHEAD AND AMENDED THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE THIS CONSISTENT. BEYOND THAT, THE REST OF THESE ARE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS THAT THE BOARD CERTAINLY COULD CONSIDER THAT MAKE THE PROBABLY LEGALLY DO, BUT, AGAIN, THAT'S GOING A LITTLE BIT BEYOND THE MECHANICAL CHANGES THAT WILL REQUIRE SOME DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD AS TO WHAT YOU WANT THE POLICY TO BE.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JOHNS? >> MR. JOHNS: MISS STINBERG, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICES, 54 CONTINUING THIS EFFORT. I THINK WE MET ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO INITIALLY AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING NOT JUST HERE BUT STATEWIDE. BINGO SAID AT THE TIME I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER BENEFICIAL USE OF TOBACCO I'M LOOKING FOR OTHERS IF ANYONE HAS BENEFICIAL USES I AM LOOKING AT ANY WAY TO MINIMIZE THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECT TO THE YOUTH INTO THE ENTIRE POPULATION.

MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS THE STATE LEGISLATURE WITH EVERY SESSION TENDS TO TAKE OVER THE LOCAL LAWS FROM DRINKING STRAWS TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AND WANT TO MAKE SURE ANY EFFORTS WE MAKE IN OUR COUNTY WILL BE LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE AND NOT TAKEN OVER BY THE STATE WITHIN WEEKS IF NOT MONTHS OF THE HOURS WE PUT INTO MAKING HIS LOSS, EXPLAINING THEM TO PEOPLE, AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE ENFORCEABLE AND ENFORCED. SO I AGREE WITH MAKING SURE WE COMPLY WITH STATE REGULATIONS AND ENCOURAGING OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES TO PUT ALL OF THESE ITEMS INTO STATE LAWS SO THAT IS UNIFORM AND PEOPLE CAN'T JUST HOP THE COUNTY LINE TO CIRCUMVENT OUR LOCAL LAWS, BUT I CERTAINLY WANT TO SEE FROM A LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE PERSPECTIVE WHAT CAN WE DO THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING WOULD NOT BE UNDONE BY ANY CHANGE THAT THE STATE LEVEL BASED ON CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE ACTIVELY GOING ON IN THE STATE, NOT HYPOTHETICAL, MAYBE SOMEDAY. WHAT ARE THEY CURRENTLY TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE AFFECTING THIS

LOCALLY. >> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE DO WANT LAWS THAT ARE EFFECTIVE AND ENFORCEABLE. WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE I THINK IF WE WERE TOGETHER WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. THIS WAY I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ENFORCEMENT. I HAVE GREAT PEOPLE WORKING WITH ME.

WE HAVE SO MANY AGENCIES, LAW ENFORCEMENT MILITARY, NATIONAL GUARD, SOME NEW PEOPLE.

BUT WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE ALL THESE OTHER COMPONENTS NEED TO HAVE STRONG POLICY CHANGE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL TO HELP REDUCE THIS YOUH EPIDEMIC. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME

AND FOR LISTENING. I APPRECIATE IT. >> DON'T LEAVE, PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER DOCUMENT >> MR. BLOCKER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND AFTER HEARING LEGAL'S WRITE DOWN ON THIS, THE WAY I BROKE IT DOWN HERE IS REALLY ASKING OUR LEGAL STAFF TO BRING BACK TO RECOMMENDATIONS. ONE IS THE STRUCTURAL COMPLIANCE OF THE ORDINANCE.

THERE ARE SOME ISSUES I THINK WE NEED TO UPDATE THE ORDINANCES TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH. JUST BASED ON MY REVIEWING THE MATERIALS HERE AND SOME RESEARCH. I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT. THE OTHER ISSUE I THINK THE SECOND ONE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS REALLY THE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER. I THINK THERE ARE SOME POLICY ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP HERE THAT WE CAN CONSIDER. I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER JOHNS'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE STATE PREEMINENCE ON THIS. HOWEVER, THIS IS PURELY THE DIRECTION THAT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING. IF THE STATE WANTS TO MAKE CHANGES, THEY CAN.

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THE WAY I OUTLINE THAT? >> YES, IT DOES. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION. OBVIOUSLY, WE KNOW WHAT THE FEDERAL ACTION HAS BEEN THAT HAS BEEN DONE. WE WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW SORT OF THE PENDING STATE LEGISLATION AND SEE WHERE THAT FINALIZES. I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT IS TO BRING BACK, I GUESS, A REPORT IN ONE OF THE MARCH BCC MEETINGS WITH I THINK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.

EVEN THEN, THOUGH, THE STATE WILL PROBABLY NOT FINALIZE WHATEVER LEGISLATION THEY ARE DOING, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN AT THAT POINT HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO BRING BACK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND LET THE STATE FINALIZE WHATEVER THEY ARE DOING THIS YEAR AND THEN BRING BACK SOMETHING FOR THE BOARD TO HEAR FOR A FIRST READING.

>> THANK YOU. IS THE BOARD IN HARMONY WITH THAT CONSENSUS?

>> I PUSHED MY BUTTON. >> MR. DEAN: FIRST OF ALL, MARIANNE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED HARD WORK ON BEHALF OF TRYING TO IMPROVE OUR YOUNGSTERS HEALTH.

AND IT REMINDS ME. I THINK ABOUT A YEAR AND 1/2 AGO BEFORE THE 2019 SESSION WE DISCUSSED THIS ITEM IN SOME DETAIL. I HAD SUGGESTED AT THE TIME SOME POSSIBLE ORDINANCE CHANGES, AND THE BOARD CHOSE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DID. WELL, SINCE THEN, I DON'T THINK THE CRISIS HAS IMPROVED.

I STILL THINK WE HAVE A CRISIS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL AND NOW EVEN AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL OF THESE YOUNG CHILDREN VAPING. IT'S JUST OUT OF CONTROL.

AND SO WE CERTAINLY NEED TO STAY ON TOP OF US. I AM A LITTLE, I GUESS, CONFUSED MIGHT BE TOO STRONG OF A WORD. I HATE TO SAY I'M CONFUSED APPEARED. I MAY BE ASKED TO THE IMPACT OF THE FEDERAL LAW BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT CHANGED IN DECEMBER. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN AS A COUNTY WORKING CONSISTENTLY WITH FEDERAL LAW AND ANY STATE LEGISLATION OVER THE NEXT SIX WEEKS TO ADDRESS THIS, WHAT I CONSIDER CRISIS. IF YOU ARE ON BOARD WITH THAT WE DID THREE DIMENSIONAL CHECKERS WE HAVE TO WORK WITH FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL ORDINANCES TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CONSISTENT BUT DO ALL WE CAN SO I JUST WANTED TO WAIT AND BECAUSE WE DID DISCUSS THIS A YEAR AND HALF AGO AND WE ARE BACK TO ANOTHER LEGISLATIVE SESSION. BUT THE FEDERAL LAW HAS PASSED AND I THINK WE CAN WRITE BACK AND IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT FEDERAL LAW TRUMPS STATE LAW WHICH TRUMPS LOCAL LAW.

SO I THINK WE HAVE ROOM TO WORK NOW TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

I BELIEVE ARE INCONSISTENT WITH HAVING HER REPORT PREPARED AND PRESENTED BY LEGAL AND TO THE TWO ITES THAT COMMISSIONER BLOCKER HAS BROUGHT FORWARD? COMPLIANCE AND THEN OTHER AREAS OF IMPLEMENTATION? AND WITH THE BOARD ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS POINT?

>> WE WILL IN A MOMENT AS LONG AS THE BOARD IS FINISHED AT THIS POINT.

DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS? WE WILL NOW MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COMMENT

>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.

PLEASE COME FORWARD. GOOD MORNING, MA'AM. >> GOOD MORNING.

I NAME IS LYNN SCHULTZ I LIVE AT 513 DADE ST. IN FERNANDINA BEACH, FL.

I DID WANT TO SAY AT THE BEGINNING BEFORE ÃI KNOW I HAVE THREE MINUTES.

I SEE MY TIMER HERE. I LOVE THE FACT THAT AS AMERICANS, WE GET TO COME AND STAND IN FRONT OF A BODY SUCH AS YOURSELF AND GIVE OUR OPINION ABOUT SOMETHING.

AS IMPORTANT AS THIS. I AM THE STATE COORDINATOR FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN A PROJECT CALLED BUILDING HEALTHY MILITARY COMMUNITIES. THE GOAL OF OUR PROJECT IS TO ADDRESS CHALLENGES OF GEOGRAPHICALLY DISPERSED SERVICEMEMBERS AND THEIR FAMILIES. SO ONE OF OUR ASPECTS ÃONE OF THE AVENUES THAT WE REALLY WORK TO IMPACT IS OUR RECRUITING POPULATION. SO AS WE WELL KNOW, NEW RECRUITS COME OUT OF THAT 17 TO 24-YEAROLD AGE GROUP. WHO DO YOU THINK IS BEING MOST IMPACTED BY TOBACCO USAGE RIGHT NOW? IT'S OUR 17 TO 24-YEAR-OLDS.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT POPULATION CAN BE QUALIFIED FOR EVERY JOB, CAN SCORE HIGH ON THEIR ASS FAASFABS. IT'S ABOUT BEING ABLE TO SERVE YOUR COUNTRY HEALTHWISE IF YOU

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I JUST WANT TO REINFORCE THE FACT I THINK THIS BOARD HAS ARTY RECOGNIZE THAT THESE ARE PRODUCTS THAT ARE DAMAGING NOT JUST OUR YOUTH POPULATION. NOT JUST THE ADULTS THAT USE THIS PRODUCT. BUT IT CAN IMPACT THE FORCE, READINESS FOR OUR FORESTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. ACROSS OUR COUNTRY. AND SO WHAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO IS SAY YES, YOU ARE CAPABLE AT B,18 TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY AND THANK YOU FOR SAYING YES. WE ALSO KNOW THAT ALCOHOL IS NOT POSITIVE FOR THEM IF THEY ARE UNDER 21 EITHER. SO WE KNOW THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE SOME TYPE OF HEALTH DAMAGE OR HEALTH RISK IF WE CAN PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING AT SUCH AN EARLY AGE IT WILL PREVENT HIM FROM BEING ALE TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY, THAT'S A SMALL POPULATION.

IT'S ONE PERCENT. CAN YOU IMAGINE RIGHT NOW THE STATE SURGEON SAID 71 PERCENT OF THAT ONE PERCENT DON'T QUALIFY FOR THAT SERVICE. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY. IF WE CAN IMPACT AT LEAST OUR ST. JOHNS COUNTY AREA WHICH IS WHY WE ARE CONCENTRATING ON, IT WILL BE BIG FOR NOT ONLY OUR STATE SECURITY BUT NATIONAL SECURITY AS WELL. SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME SPEAK TO THIS. I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING AND TAKING REALLY STRONG CONSIDERATION FOR THIS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND FORT MEADE BEING ABLE TO BE

HERE AND I APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

PLEASE, SIR, COME FORWARD. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.I AM DAVID POWELL I RESIDE AT 224 BRIDGEPORT LN. IN ELGIN, FL.

I HAVE A HISTORY OF FIGHTING TOBACCO IN ST. JOHN'S AND PUTNAM COUNTY.

WORKING AS A VOLUNTEER IN EARLY 2000'S WITH STUDENTS WORKING AGAINST TOBACCO PROGRAM.

I WORKED TO RESTORE THE PROGRAM FOR THE FUNDING THAT WAS PASSED IN 2006.

I WAS THEN HIRED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND PUTNAM COUNTY TO REESTABLISH TOBACCO PROGRAM THERE AND WORK ON POLISHING ISSUES TO REDUCE LEVELS OF TOBACCO USE IN A COUNTY BY YOU THE NOBLE SPIRIT OVER A YEAR AGO I RETIRED FROM THIS POSITION AFTER 12 YEARS AND MANY SUCCESSES. THIS PAST NOVEMBER I WAS INVITED TO ATTEND A REGIONAL SUMMIT TURNING THE TIDE IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA. AS REPORTED THE SUMMIT WAS WELL ATTENDED BY MANY REGIONAL LEADERS AND DVOCATES. THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRAINSTORM AND COLLABORATE REGIONALLY WITH A BROAD SPECTRUM OF INDIVIDUALS ON IDEAS TO REDUCE THE EPIDEMIC AND USE OF AND PRODUCTS AMONG OUR YOUTH.

AFTER HEARING RELEVANT PRESENTATIONS WE WERE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE IN GROUPS TO MAKE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU HAVE HEARD THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE PRESENTATIONS. IN DECEMBER, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TOOK THE STEP OF RAISING THE AGE TO 21 YEARS. ANOTHER TOP RECOMMENDATION WAS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A LOCAL TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSE THAT WOULD INCLUDE VAPE SHOPS WHICH ARE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A STATE LICENSE UNLESS THEY SELL TRADITIONAL TOBACCO PRODUCTS. THIS WOULD ALSO BE A WAY TO CONSOLIDATE CURRENT LOCAL TOBACCO POLICIES, ESTABLISH A CONSISTENT DEFINITION OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS TO INCLUDE AND PRODUCTS AND FUNDING FOR COMPLIANCE LOCAL LEVEL.

CURRENTLY COMPLIANCE CHECKS ARE NOT ENOUGH TO ENSURE RETAILERS WON'T SELL TOBACCO PRODUCTS TO MINORS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD MORNING. >> JOHN THOMPSON.

75 TELEVISTA CIR., ST. AUGUSTINE. ALSO THE SUPERVISOR WILL AVAILABLE GENERAL PROBATION OFFICER. ONE OF THE GREATEST AND BIGGEST TAKEAWAYS FROM THE SUMMIT THAT'S BEEN SPOKEN OF SEVERAL TIMES IS THE BREATH OF THE YOUTH AFFECTED AND PARTICIPANTS FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT TO SCHOOLS TO USE HER WORK IN THE SCHOOLS, THE GREATEST TAKE AWAY IS THE NUMBER TO INDICATE A NEED FOR EXPEDITIOUS ACTION.

I'M SURE EVERYONE IS AWARE STUDENTS HAVE TRIED SMOKELESS L- PAVING TYPE THINGS 25.6 USE BAKING PRODUCTS PROBABLY THE SCARIEST THING OF ALL IS A 34 PERCENT INCREASE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. MIDDLE SCHOOL OR JUNIOR SCHOOL STUDENTS.

10 PERCENT OF THEM CURRENTLY USE THEM. HISTORY WILL REPEAT ITSELF.

IT KIND OF DATES ME AND I AM SURE WE ALL REMEMBER KENT FALLS BEAUTIFUL WATERFALLS AND THEY WOULD ALWAYS PICK LATE TEENS TO EARLY 20S YOUTH HAVING A GREAT TIME SHOWING FUN AND THOSE ARE IN CONNECTICUT AND SADLY THEY HAD THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PUMP EXTRA WATER AND TARGETED TEAMS

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HER LEGISLATION MAY REDUCE THAT SOMEWHAT BUT IT DOESN'T WORK. HISTORICAL PRECEDENTS FOR OUR COUNTY IS THEY WERE WORKING TO PRESS FLAVORED CIGARETTES, WORKING TO REMOVE ADS FROM WINDOWS AND CIGARETTE MACHINES IN THE BATHROOMS AND RESTAURANTS WHICH ARE STILL IN BUSINESS TODAY. THE VAST MAJORITY OF RETAILERS WERE RESPONSIBLE SOMEONE IN TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES. WHAT I'VE SEEN NOW THEY CONTINUE TO ACT VERY RESPONSIBLE IN ORDER TO CREATE THE CHANGE IN LIMIT CONSUMPTION YOUNG PEOPLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? PLEASE COME FORWARD. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT: MR. CHAIRMAN, NOT SEEING ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT

>> WITH PUBLIC, NOW CLOSED, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD?

>> WE WILL MOVE ALONG IN OUR AGENDA. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO NUMBER.

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GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. MELISSA GLASCO DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. MORNING ON THE PLEASURE OF INTRODUCING JARED RICE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP. HE WAS NAMED TO THIS POSITION DECEMBER 2016. JARED IS A VICE PRESIDENT WITH THE PGA TOUR AND I MUST SAY WE ARE SO PROUD TO HAVE THE GLOBAL HOME OF THE PGA TOUR EXPANDING HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

JARED JOINED THE PLAYERS AND STAFF IN 2010 AS DIRECTOR OF SALES AND MARKETING AND HE WAS PROMOTED TO VICE PRESIDENT IN 2016. IN 2011 12 AND 13 RICE WAS IN THE TOP SALESPERSON FOR THE PGA TOUR OWNED EVENTS RECOGNIZING INCREASED ACTIVATION FOR THE PLAYERS, REGIONAL AND NATIONAL PARTNERS. UNDERWRITES'S LEADERSHIP THE PLAYERS HAVE SEEN SUBSTANTIAL REVENUE GROWTH FOR EACH YEAR. BEFORE JARED BEGINS HIS PRESENTATION ON TO SAY HOW FORTUNATE WE ARE TO HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP AND THE PGA TOUR. AS YOU WILL HEAR FROM JARED THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP GENERATES MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR OUR AREA INTIMATES GENEROUSLY TO OUR MANY CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS. WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE PGA TOUR IN THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP WITH HER SIGNIFICANT INESTMENT HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE JARED RICE UP TO MAKE HIS PRESENTATION.

>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT INTRODUCTION.

IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE AND GETTING THE ATTENTION THE NEXT COUPLE OF MINUTES TO INFORM THIS GROUP IN THE COMMUNITY OF REALLY WAS A FUN COST OF 2019 AND BARRY LOOKING TO GO IN THE FUTURE HERE. YOU CAN SEE BY THE LOOK OF THIS QUOTE HERE BY RORY MCELROY I THINK IT'S GREAT INDICATION OF JUST HOW OUR WORLD-CLASS ATHLETES REVIEW THE STORM THEM THE COMPETITORS MAKE A HUGE IMPACT ON THE CONTINUED ELEVATION AND THE STATUS AND STATURE IN THE PLAYERS AND THEIR VIEW ON THIS TOURNAMENT GOES A LONG WAY TO PROMOTING IT GLOBALLY AND WE ARE VERY PROUD. YOU MAY SEE THIS DECLARATION OF OUR GOLD STANDARD APPEAR AND OUR MARKETING AND ADVERTISING AND REALLY, WHAT IT REPRESENTS IS IT'S OUR MISSION STATEMENT.

IT'S OUR INTENTION AND EXPECTAION TO DELIVER EVERYTHNG THAT THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. WHETHER THAT'S FOR OUR PLAYERS, OUR SPONSORS, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ME

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>> WE GAVE THEM WEIRD PHRASES AND ASKED THEM TO SING THOSE PHRASES INTO THEIR INTERVIEWS

AS CASUALLY AS POSSIBLE. >> MINE IS A LITTLE LONGER. GET USED TO THAT.

[MUSIC] >> I WILL TOSS IT OVER TO THE AV EXPERTS TO GET TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THAT GIVES YOU AN INDICATION OF WHERE WE HAVE COME AND WE DON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT THOSE LINES WERE JIMMY FALLON, BUT I THINK WHAT'S REALLY COOL ABOUT THAT IS HE CAME UP WITH PAT AND WITH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH NBC AND IT KIND OF SHOWS THE TOURNAMENT CONTINUES TO GROW INSIDE THE ROPES AND OUTSIDE THE ROPES.

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW SUCCESSFUL 2019 WAS ÃI'M GOING TO GO BACK ONE CLICK SLIDE

>> I GET ASKED THIS QUITE A BIT AND HOW WAS THE MOVE? I THINK SOME OF THESE STATS INDICATE THAT IN THE LEVEL OF SUCCESS. WE HAD RECORD DAYS ON THURSDAY AND SATURDAY. OVER 200,000 FANS IN ATTENDANCE, WELL OVER HALF OF THOSE TICKETS PURCHASED COME FROM OUTSIDE THE FIVE-COUNTY AREA.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY GREAT HIGHLIGHT OF HOW OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN TO GROW THE TOURNAMENT NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY AND WE ARE SEEING WAS ALSO BAD.

INDICATIONS OF AIR-TRAFFIC AND A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THROUGH GIA COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY FOR TOURNAMENT ATTENDANCE. IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF AS WELL AS THE AVERAGE HOTEL OCCUPANCY

RATE WHICH IS THE HIGHEST WEEK OF THE YEAR IN OUR COMMUNITY. >> SOME OTHER HIGHLIGHTS TO INCLUDE OVERALL OPERATIONS PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US IN TERMS OF OVERALL USER EXPERIENCE AND HAVING A GREAT USER EXPERIENCE. UBER IS BECOME A WAY OF LIFE AND OUR ABILITY TO WORK WITH THIS GROUP AND, YOU KNOW, THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMUNITY AND IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO THINK THROUGH LOGISTICS AND HOW WE GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THE TOURNAMENT WITH THAT HIGH STANDARD AND THAT B'S MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE TO WHETHER THEY COME BACK, AND THIS IS, AGAIN, JUST ONE INSTANCE WHERE GETTING TO AND FROM THE TOURNAMENT BECAME CONSIDERABLY EASIER LAST YEAR. OVER 400 LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL BUSINESSES ON SITE. WE HAD UPWARDS OF 70+ SEALABLE ATTENDEES AND OVER THE COURSE OF SIX DAYS, THAT'S A HIGH LEVEL OF CONCENTRATION WE ARE ENTERTAINING HERE AND EXPOSING OUR COMMUNITY TO IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS IN TERMS OF MEDIA FROM OVER 195 OUTLETS FROM 20 COUNTRIES.

I WILL TOUCH ON THIS IN A BIT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, BUT AS YOU CONSIDER THAT STEP, WE HAD 16 MEDIA PARTNERS BROADCASTING FULL-TIME LIFE FROM THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP.

THAT IS, AGAIN, A GREAT ADVERTORIAL AND WHILE THE TOURNAMENT IN THE COMMUNITY MAY BE IN THE BACKGROUND OF OUR TELECAST, THIS IS THE FOREGROUND OF HOW WE PRESENT THIS TOURNAMENT AND WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME HERE. THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO BE TOO

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TYING INTO LIFESTYLE AND TRAVEL AND YOU CAN SEE THIS PICTURE. THIS HAPPENED ABOUT A MONTH AGO. IT'S CARSON DALY ON THE LEFT AND RORY MCELROY ON THE RIGHT.

ONE INDICATION OF OUR GREAT PARTNERSHIPS WITH NBC THE APPEAL OF LIFESTYLE AND TRAVEL MEDIA COME OUT AND THIS WAS A PROMOTIONAL SHOOT WHERE WE DID SOME WORK WITH NBC, BUT THOSE GUESTS ARE A COMBINATION OF OUR TOP LOCAL PARTNERS AS WELL AS NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL MEDIA. JUST TO NAME A FEW, WE HAD WRITERS FROM TRAVEL AND LEISURE LE TRAVEL, MODERN LUXURY, INSIGHT HOOK, MEN'S HEALTH, MUSCLE AND FITNESS MAGAZINE AS WELL AS THE TORONTO GLOBE AND MAIL. HERE COVERING THIS COMMUNITY AND WHY IT'S SUCH A GREAT BUCKET LIST OF EVENTS TO COME TO THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP.

I HAVE BEEN ON PURPOSE AND IS A FOCUS OF OURS AND THE COMMUNITY REPRESENTED HERE TODAY HAS BEEN A GREAT HELP IN FURTHERING THAT EFFORT. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT JUST THE BROADCAST GROWTH AND HOW THE TOURNAMENT IS BEING DISTRIBUTED ANYWAYS GOING FORWARD, OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH DISCOVERY NETWORK BROUGHT IN AN ENTIRELY NEW CHANNEL TO BRING IN THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP TO INTERNATIONAL MARKETS VIA STREAMING DEVICES.

SO THAT INCREASE BY NEARLY 50 PERCENT. SO 80 COUNTRIES AND TERRITORIES WERE ABLE TO SEE THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP ON THE MOBILE DEVICE IN A STREAM ANYWAY.

THAT'S IN ADDITION TO OUR CABLE RELATIONSHIP. LOTS HAPPENING HERE.

AND AGAIN, THE ABILITY TO REALLY GROW THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE TOURNAMENT IS A PRIORITY.

WHAT DOES ALL OF THAT MEAN? YOU MAY HAVE HEARD EARLIER THIS WEEK THE TORAH ANNOUNCED OVER 3 BILLION CHARITABLE GIVING FROM THE PGA TOUR AND HIS TOURNAMENTS.

JUST TO PAUSE FOR A MOMENT TO THINK IN 1974 THE DECISION WAS MADE TO RELOCATE THE PGA TOUR'S HEADQUARTERS TO WASHINGTON D.C. TO PONTE VEDRE BEACH. IT'S A VERY POWERFUL AND HUMBLING ACT TO THINK THAT IT'S COME TO A $3 BILLION AND IS ALMOST UNFATHOMABLE.

IT'S A GREAT VISION IN THE CENTER THAT IS SOMETHING EVERYONE SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF. THE TOURNAMENT PERSPECTIVE, IT CLIPS 100 MILLION A GIVING SINCE 1974. 50 MILLION OF THAT OCCURRED OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

9.25 FROM 2019 TOURNAMENT. WE DO SOME QUICK MATH AND THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH HAS COME FROM THE LAST EIGHT YEARS AND THE EXCITEMENT THAT WE FEEL IS THAT MEANS WE CAN DO SO MUCH MORE GOING FORWARD. THAT HAS A DIRECT IMPACT AND I KNOW MANY OF YOU KNOW ABOUT OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH FLAGLER HEALTH AND PUTTING INTO PLACE AND BEHAVIOR HEALTH INITIATIVE THROUGH ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOLS AND FLAGLER HEALTH PLUS.

THAT WAS A MILLION-DOLLAR CONTRIBUTION OF PLAYERS THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT BUT ALSO OUR 2000 VOLUNTEERS COME OUT AND HELP US RUN.

SO THAT WAS JUST 2019.THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH ME FOR A MOMENT.

LOOKING FORWARD TO 2020 JUST A FEW SLIDES HERE. AGAIN, CONTINUING THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE TOURNAMENT, THE IDEA OF EVERY SHOT BY EVERY PLAYER LIVE BEING BROADCAST THROUGH OUR STREAMING MEDIA IS THE FIRST IN ITS INDUSTRY. WE REALLY PRIDE OURSELVES ON DELIVERING FIRST THE SPORT OF GOLF AND IN ENTERTAINMENT. THANK YOU TO ALL AS DISTRIBUTION MECHANICS THAT I MENTIONED THE FAN AND TULSA, OKLAHOMA CAN WATCH THEIR FAVORITE GOLFER LIVE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE IN SPORTS OR STADIUM HERE. TECHNOLOGY IS A BIG THING FOR US.

WE ARE MOVING TO A MOBILE ONLY IN DAY SPECIFIC TICKETS. THERE'S A REASON WHY WE ARE DOING THIS. AS YOU MENTIONED ÃAS I MENTIONED EARLIER THURSDAY AND SATURDAY WERE RECORD CROWDS. WE WANT TO HAVE A GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR OUR FANS AND WANT TO HAVE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT. WE NEED TO KNOW WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING. THAT SOUNDS PRETTY OBVIOUS, RIGHT? IN SOME PREVIOUS TICKET PRODUCTS AND PROVIDED A HIGH DEGREE OF FLEXIBILITY FOR FANS BUT ALSO DID NOT PROVIDE US WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT EXACTLY THEY WERE COMING.

SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US. INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. BECAUSE OF THIS GROUP AND OTHERS WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INSTALL A TURN LANE OFF OF 210 HEADING SOUTH SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE FANS ENTER INTO THE PARKING LOT AT TPC SAWGRASS THAT MUCH SAFELY AND WE THINK THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY TO PROVIDE A GREAT FIRST IMPRESSION TO OUR OUT-OF-TOWN GUESTS. OUR YOUTH ADMISSIONS POLICY HAS CHANGED SLIGHTLY TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE PGA TOUR'S ACROSS OUR ENTIRE SEASON. BUT YOUTH AGE 15 AND UNDER ARE STILL LIMITED FREE TO THE TOURNAMENT WITH A TICKETED ADULT.

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AT OTHER MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIPS AND GLOBAL EVENTS.

THAT'S SOMETHING REALLY HIGHLIGHTS HOW DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE WE WANT TO BE.

NOT ONLY IS IT TOURNAMENT BUT AS A COMMUNITY. BUT AGAIN, WE WOULDN'T BE COMPLETE WITHOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HIGHLIGHTED PLENTY OF LOCAL FOOD PARTNERS AND VENDORS

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I WILL CLOSE IN ONE SECOND BUT JUST TO LEAVE YOU WITH A LITTLE BIT OF EXCITEMENT FOR NEXT YEAR, I HAVE ONE FINAL VIDEO. THANK YOU.

>> ONCE I GET ON THE TEE BOX I WILL TURN MY ATTENTION. WITH EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE ACHIEVED IN THE GAME I WOULD BE MISSING SOMETHING IF I DIDN'T CALL MYSELF THE PLAYERS

CHAMPION >> WE ARE VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING RORY MCELROY BACK. IF NOT HAD A BACK-TO-BACK CHAMPION IN THE HISTORY OF THE PLAYERS NOT THAT WE CAN REFER ANYONE PLAYER. I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO HAVING THAT HAPPEN THIS YEAR. HE HAD A TERRIFIC YEAR AND CREDIT TO HIS PLAYERS WENT AS CONTRIBUTING TO HIS AWARD LAST YEAR.

SO AGAIN, JUST A THANK YOU TO THIS GROUP AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO FOR ME TOURNAMENT PERSPECTIVE FOR MANY OF THE HOSPITALITY STRUCTURES TO THE FIRE AND RESCUE, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT GROUP AND HOW WE ARE ABLE TO DELIVER THE TOURNAMENT AT A VERY HIGH STANDARD. I HOPE THAT WAS INFORMATIVE AND HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS. >> MR. RICE, THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.

WE HAVE A LIST OF FOLKS THAT WANT TO TALK AND ASK YOU QUESTIONS BUT MY QUESTION IS THIS. THE EXPANSION OF THE NEW BUILDING OR FACILITY HAS NOT

ADVERSELY AFFECTED ANY OF THE PARKING? >> THERE HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE.

WE WILL HAVE ÃWE WILL BE NET DOWN SOME PARKING PASSES Ã PARKING SPOTS.

WE WILL HAVE LESS, BUT THE POSITIVE IS THAT IT'S NOT AS Ã IT'S NOT AS MUCH OF AN IMPACT AS WE HAD ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED. IN DEVELOPING THE AREA IT HAS ALLOWED US TO PARK CARS MORE EFFICIENTLY. SO WE STILL BELIEVE THAT THOSE THAT ARE LOOKING TO COME FROM OUT OF TOWN OR DRIVE TO THE TOURNAMENT WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARK. AND WITH THE PROLIFERATION OF RIDESHARE AND US SUPPORTING

THAT WE ARE STILL ABLE TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND PARKED PEOPLE >> THANK YOU.

LEGAL? >> THANK YOU, MR. JARED. IF THE BOARD WOULD ALLOW JUST FOR A MOMENT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SPEAK AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THE TBC. IN ADDITION TO, I THINK, THE ECONOMIC AND CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THE TPC AND THE TOUR HAVE MADE, NOT TO MENTION THE FUN FACTOR, WHICH IS INTANGIBLE BUT I THINK REALLY ADDS TO THE COMMUNITY, I DID WANT TO MAKE A SPECIAL MENTION, AND I APOLOGIZE, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, HE MAY HAVE BEEN GOING IN THIS DIRECTION TOO. OF THE MILITARY APPRECIATION DAY AND IN GENERAL, JUST KIND OF THE SUPPORT FOR MILITARY FAMILIES AT THAT DPJ HAS EXHIBITED.

I JUST WANTED TO, IF I MAY THROUGH THE BOARD JUST GET MY APPRECIATION FOR THAT ASPECT OF

THE PGA TOUR AND TBC. THANK YOU >> I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE PGA TOUR FOR BEING AN INVESTED PARTNER IN OUR COMMUNITY. YOU'RE NOT JUST A BUSINESS PROVIDING ENTERTAINMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY. YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR DECADES, QUITE LITERALLY. YOU HAVE GROWN AS THE DEMAND HAS GROWN FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE BILLIONS WITH A B OF CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. THAT DOESN'T GET ADVERTISED AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT.

I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DO IT. YOU ARE TO HUMBLE AS AN ORGANIZATION TO DO SO.

IT'S AN HONOR FOR ME AS A COMMISSIONER TODAY TO SAY THANK YOU.

I GREW UP IN THIS AREA. I STARTED VOLUNTEERING IN THE 80S LONG BEFORE ANY DREAMS OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND THE SIZE OF THIS EVENT THAT IT'S BECOME WHEN POPULATION OF PONTE VEDRE WAS ABOUT 1/4 OF WHAT IT IS TODAY, YOU HAVE KEPT UP WITH THE TECHNOLOGY.

YOU MAY HAVE SOME CHALLENGES WITH PARKING DUE TO THE GROWTH OF THAT NEW HEADQUARTERS, BUT YOU HAVE ACCOMMODATED THAT AS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WITH RIDESHARING AND OTHER WAYS TO ACCOMMODATE. THAT IS NO EASY TASK. YOU HAVE KEPT UP WITH TECHNOLOGY DEMANDS, YOU HAVE CONTINUED TO CONSISTENTLY PROVIDE A FANTASTIC EXPERIENCE FOR NOT JUST THE PLAYEPEOPLE WH NEVER HEARD OF THIS TOURNAMENT OF ST. AUGUSTINE ARE HEARING

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THAT'S BEEN YOUR FOCUS FOR THE START AND IT CONTINUES TODAY. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT IT DOES BENEFIT THAT ARE RECOGNIZED AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER BUT IS NOT THE BANNER. YOU ARE HERE TO PROVIDE THE EXPERIENCE AND WE ALL FEEL IT.

WE'LL SEE. THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE EMPLOYEES TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL EVENT. IT'S FOR A GOOD CAUSE. AND IT'S WELL WORTH THE MINOR INCONVENIENCES THAT WE IN OUR DAILY LIVES EXPERIENCE FOR THAT BENEFITS THE OTHERS WHO NEVER WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO RECEIVE THE RESULTS TO BE ABLE TO LIVE BETTER LIVES AS A RESULT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. JARED >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME COMING HERE AND REALLY JUST WANT ÃTHIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY AND FAMILY. SO MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS, SO MANY OF MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY ARE EXCITED ABOUT GOING TO THIS EVENT TAKING OUR CHILDREN TO IT. YOU CREATED A GREAT FAMILY EVENT.

THERE'S A LOT OF HARD WORK THAT GOES INTO THAT. IN THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY YOU HAVE CREATED IS INCREDIBLE. WE HAVE FRIENDS COMING IN FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DONE AND WE APPRECIATE IT. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> MR. DEAN: I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY SAY IN ADDITION TO THANKING DEAN BEEMAN FOR MOVING THE PG HEADQUARTERS TO PONTE VEDRE IN 1974, SOME OF YOU MAY NOT NOW THAT THERE WAS QUITE A DISCUSSION IN 1990, 30 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT RELOCATING THE TOUR HEADQUARTERS TO JACKSONVILLE, PARTICULARLY THE MANDARIN AREA. AND DEAN BEEMAN MADE A DECISION. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING I WAS SOMEWHAT INVOLVED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS. AND HE MADE THE DECISION THAT IT WOULD BE BEST TO KEEP THE PGA TOUR HEADQUARTERS IN PONTE VEDRE. SO I WANT TO THANK HIM TWICE FOR HIS MOVE AND HIS DECISION TO KEEP THE TOUR IN PONTE VEDRE.

I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH. I TOLD MY WIFE LAST NIGHT THAT THERE WAS AN AD ON T.V. ABOUT THE GREATEST CAR RACE IN THE WORLD COMING UP, NASCAR, THE DAYTONA 500.

I SAID HOW BLESSED ARE WE WHERE WE LIVE ON ANASTASIA ISLAND TO BE HALFWAY BETWEEN THE GREATEST CAR RACE IN AMERICA AND THE GREATEST TOUR, THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP, AND I SAID HOW MUCH BETTER COULD IT GET THAN THAT? SO AS A COUNTY, WE ARE BLESSED, AND I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT THOUGHT WITH JARED.> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER WALDRON? >> MR. WALDRON: ESTHER RICE, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ALSO FOR THE PGA TOUR AND THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT WASN'T ALWAYS GREAT IN THE BEGINNING BACK IN THE 70S AND 80S. ROUGH TIMES BACK THEN IN THE COUNTY WAS VERY WELCOMING TO THE PGA TOUR AND THE PGA TOUR HAS RETURNED THE FAVOR AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL IN THE FUTURE ON HOW WE CAN EXPAND OUR AREA OF THEIR AND HELP OUT THE COMMUNITY EVEN MORE. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ALL DO.

>> THANK YOU. WE WILL MAKE SURE WE SHARE THIS WITH OUR COLLEAGUES.

>> WE NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT >> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL ENTERTAIN PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2. PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2.

PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> GOOD MORNING, SIR. >> HOWARD MCAFEE 162 S. PRAIRIE LAKES DOCTOR I PROMISE NOT TO GET UP FOR EVERY AGENDA ITEM TO MAKE YOUR LONG MEETING LONGER.

BUT VICE PRESIDENT BRYCE I USED TO SERVE ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD FOR ST. JOHNS ATHLETICS ASSOCIATION AND I KNOW JUST HOW IMPORTANT YOUR INVOLVEMENT Ã THE TOUR'S INVOLVEMENT WITH THAT ORGANIZATION, HELPING WITH THE GRANTS AND HELPING TO FUND UNDERPRIVILEGED KIDS AND GET STARTED INTO SPORTS IN THE SCHOOLS. I SAT ON THAT IS A TREASURE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. BUT UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY OF HOW SOME OF THESE KIDS DO NOT GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADVANCE IN SPORTS OR GET THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE OF THEIR ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW HOW FAR BACK MONEY HAS SINCE COME AND GONE. SO HAS MY TIME, BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

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AND I SEEN WHAT SOME OF THOSE KIDS HAVE DONE WITH THAT LITTLE BIT OF CHARITY AND THAT LITTLE BIT OF KINDNESS YOUR ORGANIZATION HAS SHOWN AND WANT TO THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE COME FORWARD ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 29. MR. CHAIRMAN NOT SEEING ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON

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AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO NUMBER WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT NOW CLOSE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? SEEING THAT WE WILL MOVE ALONG

TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3. MR. KELLY? >> MR. CHAIR, THIS ITEM IS A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING. IF YOU HAD ANY EXPERT TO COMMUNICATIONS ARE MADE ANY SITE VISIT, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO DISCLOSE THOSE COMMUNICATIONS.

THE NATURE AND EXTENT OF HIS COMMUNICATIONS AND WHO THOSE COMMUNICATIONS WERE MADE WITH.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JOHNSTON MET

>> I MET ON JANUARY 23 WITH KAREN TAYLOR REGARDING THIS AGENDA ITEM.

WE DISCUSSED THE CURRENT CONDITIONS AND APPROVED USES WE DISCUSSED THE PROPOSED REVISIONS, THE REVISIONS Ã REASONS FOR THIS REVISIONS, THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY THE COMMUNITY AND HOW THEY ARE ADDRESSING THOSE CONCERNS. ALSO RECEIVED AN UNCOUNTED NUMBER OF EMAILS FOR AND AGAINST THE PROPOSED AGENDA ITEM.

>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON?>> MR. WALDRON: I HAD A MEETING JANUARY 23 WITH MS. KAREN TAYLOR AND FRANK AND THAT MEAN WE DISCUSSED THE DRAINAGE ISSUES COMING BEFORE THE BOARD THAT WERE QUICKLY TAKEN CARE OF. WE DISCUSSED HOW THEY WERE GOING TO HANDLE KIND OF MORE ENHANCEMENT OF TRYING TO KEEP IT AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA. I ALSO MADE A SITE VISIT ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OCCASIONS.

MAINLY, JUST TO VISIT THE SITE BUT ALSO I HAD A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT SPEEDING ON STRATTON BOULEVARD. I HAD SOME RESIDENTS WANTING ME TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

>> MR. BLOCKER: I DID HAVE A MEETING ON THURSDAY, JANUARY 23 AT APPROXIMATELY 230 P.M. WITH KAREN TAYLOR MR. FRANK TO MARK THE CONTRACTOR WE DISCUSSED THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT.

SOME OF ITS CURRENT CONDITIONS AND PROPOSED APPLICATIONS. I HAVE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF

EMAILS BOTH PRO AND CON IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT. >> I MET WITH KAREN TAYLOR AND FRANK DEMAR THE CONTRACTOR FOR THIS PROJECT ON WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 15 IN THE AFTERNOON AND THEY PRESENTED AN OUTLINE OF THE PROJECT AND TRIED TO ANSWER ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD, AND THEN I HAD CERTAINLY THIS MORNING FOR THE FIRST TIME, I RECEIVED THREE EMAILS FROM AN ADJACENT OWNERS ÃCONDO OWNERS, AND IT MAY HAVE GOTTEN SOME OTHER BEFORE THAT, BUT THE THREE THAT I RECEIVED THIS MORNING ARE SORT OF FRESH ON MY MIND.

>> THANK YOU. I MET WITH MS. TAYLOR AND ESTHERFRANK DEMAR.

WE REQUESTED THE REZONING THE SITE CLEARED AND DISCUSS WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON ON THE SITE AT THAT TIME. WE ALSO LOOKED AT DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS AND SOME OF THE DRAINAGE CHALLENGES THAT HAVE COME THAT WAY AND DISCUSS THE OBJECTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY REGARDING TRAFFIC NOISE INTENSIY AND COMPATIBILITY. LOOKED AT THE SCREENING Ã PROPOSED SCREENING THAT HAS COME FORWARD AS WELL AND SOME THINGS TO MITIGATE SOME CONCERNS. I ALSO HAD SEVERAL EMAILS IN REGARD TO BOTH POSITIVE AND

NEGATIVE ON THE PROJECT. ALL RIGHT. >> MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THANK YOU. JUSTIN KELLY GROWTH MANAGEMENT WILL BE PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE NUMBER REZONING STRATTON BOULEVARD. THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 8.34 ACRES FROM OPEN RURAL RESIDENTIAL GENERAL COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE WITH CONDITIONS.

PROVIDED IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WHICH IS LOCATED ALONG STRATTON BOULEVARD JUST NORTH OF STATE ROAD 16 LOCATED TO THE NORTH IS THE LOFT AT SEBASTIAN COVE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH CONSISTS OF MULTIFAMILY CONDOMINIUMS. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF MIXED-USE, AND IT IS COMPRISED OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS. AS STATED, THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 8.34 ACRES TO COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR FLEX WAREHOUSE SPACE THAT WOULD PERMIT COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES.

THERE ARE TWO CONDITIONS INCLUDED WITH THIS REQUEST. THE FIRST IS THE REMOVAL OF VARIOUS HIGH INTENSITY USES THAT ARE OTHERWISE PERMITTED OR ALLOWED BY SPECIAL USE OF IN CW ZONING. THE SECOND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FIRST CONDITION IS A 30 B

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ALSO PROVIDED ON THIS SLIDE WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT IS A LIST OF THE HIGH INTENSITY USES THAT ARE EXCLUDED. THIS IS A SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT SHOWING THE PROPOSED LAYOUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL CONSIST OF SIX WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS.

EACH APPROXIMATELY 15,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THE SITE PLAN IS THE INTENDED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, HOWEVER, SITE PLANS ARE NOT REQUIRED OR APPROVED AS PART OF A REZONING REQUEST. ANY SITE PLAN IN COMBINATION OF ALLOWED USES WOULD BE PERMITTED AND APPROVED. REVIEW BY STAFF SHOWS THE COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS ARE APPROVED FOR BUILDING ONE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON THE PARCELS CURRENTLY ZONED. THESE PLANS INCLUDED ONE 15,000 SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING AND ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY PROVIDED FOR CLEARING UP THE ENTIRE SITE DRAINAGE STRUCTURES AND A RETENTION POND. SOME OF THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENTS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED ON THE SITE. THE RETENTION POND HAS BEEN DUG OUT, AND THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY BEING CONSTRUCTED. PROVIDED HERE IS THE APPROVE CONSTRUCTION PLANS WERE, 20 1885. HIGHLIGHTED ARE BUILDING 1 AND A RETENTION POND APPROVED AS A PART OF THIS PLAN. APPROVAL PERMITTED USES ONLY ALLOWED IN CG ZONING. THE RETENTION POND WAS CONSTRUCTED READING ALL THE REQUIRED STANDARDS OF THE CN ZONING DSTRICT IN WHICH IT'S LOCATED.

FURTHER REVIEW BY STAFF SHOWS ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO THE WEST ACCESS THE PROPERTIES VIA A RECORDED EASEMENT AND IS OWNED BY THE APPLICANT AS WELL.

THE SOUTHERN PORTIONS IS INCLUDED AND THE REMAINING PORTION WILL CONTINUE TO ALLOW ACCESS TO THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. APPLICATION MATERIALS STATE THE EASEMENT WILL BE USED AS A THROUGH ACCESS FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND A NEW ACCESS POINT FROM STRATTON BOULEVARD WILL SERVE AS THE MAIN ENTRANCE.

LET'S LOCATED ABOUT WHERE THE MEADOW RIDGE LANE WILL BE. IS INCLUDED AND THE REMAINING PORTION WILL CONTINUE TO ALLOW ACCESS TO THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

APPLICATION MATERIALS STATE THE EASEMENT WILL BE USED AS A THROUGH ACCESS FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND A NEW ACCESS POINT FROM STRATTON BOULEVARD WILL SERVE AS THE MAIN ENTRANCE. LET'S LOCATED ABOUT WHERE THE MEADOW RIDGE LANE WILL BE.

PROVIDED HERE IS A TABLE SHOWING THE USED CATEGORIES WOULD BE PERMITTED AS SUBMITTED CW ZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR THE TYPES OF USES PROPOSED. THIS REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH A MIXED-USE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, AND THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN AN AREA WITH NEARBY COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONED PROPERTIES. THIS ITEM WAS HEARD BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY OF THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING ON DECEMBER 19, 2019, AND THEY UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THIS RECOMMENDATION. STAFF HAS RECEIVED SEVERAL PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED REZONING CONCERNS HAVE INCLUDED THE PROXIMITY OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT TO THE SEBASTIAN COVE RESIDENTIAL AREA TO THE NORTH.

THE POTENTIAL FOR NOISE COMING FROM THE DEVELOPMENT, AND FINALLY GENERATED TRAFFIC.

OVERALL, STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LDC AND THE COMP PLAN AND HAS PROVIDED THE AGENCY WITH FOUR FINDINGS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL AND THIS CONCLUDES SAMPLES OR PRESENTATION. THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT IN

STEFFEL STANDBY FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. KELLY? XENON WE WILL NOW HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. KAREN TAYLOR, 77 SARAGOSSA ST.

I AM HERE AND HANK IS WITH ME AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF HIM ÃLET ME GRAB ÃI WILL JUST KIND OF GO QUICKLY THROUGH SOME OF THIS JUSTIN HAS COVERED A LOT OF IT.

BUT THIS IS A GENERAL OVERALL LOCATION MAP, JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU ÃTHIS IS BASICALLY A LONG 16 BUT YOU KNOW, BETWEEN ST. AUGUSTINE AND STATE ROAD 16.

A LITTLE BIT CLOSER KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA AND YOU CAN SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH AS WELL. AND THEN THIS KIND OF ZEROS AND A LITTLE CLOSER TO IT.

THERE WAS A VERY, VERY SMALL PORTION Ã0.20 ACRES OF WETLANDS, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, SOME OPEN DRY. THIS IS FULLY WITHIN A MIXED-USE DISTRICT WHICH ALLOWS ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES, ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF ZONINGS. FROM RESIDENTIAL TO INDUSTRIAL.

THIS IS THE EXISTING AND JUSTIN DID POINT THAT OUT. THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THERE RIGHT NOW, AND ADJACENT TO IT, YOU CAN SEE THE CG AND THE IW THAT FLANKS IT TO

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IT DOES HAVE ABOUT 338 FEET ON STRATTON BOULEVARD, 699 FEET ALONG THE BOTTOM.

300 FEET ALONG THE EASEMENT THAT WAS DISCUSSED, AND ALONG THOSE REMAINING LINES.

A PORTION OF THAT EASEMENT WILL REMAIN, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE FROM HERE, THERE'S A PORTION THAT WILL BE USED WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. AND THIS SLIDE DIDN'T SHOW IT REALLY WELL, BUT IS A SURVEY THAT KIND OF DOES SHOW THE EASEMENT AND AS IT SERVES RIGHT NOW. ORIGINALLY, THIS SITE WAS FOR A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S WHY THERE WAS A CUL-DE-SAC PLANT AND THAT, BUT THAT WILL GO AWAY.

JUSTIN SHOWED YOU THE SITE PLAN. THIS IS WHAT WAS APPROVED ORIGINALLY. IT'S APPROVED UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING, AND AS NOTED ON THIS ONE, THIS IS A MAIN NEW ENTRANCE, AND THIS BUILDING WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW WAS PLANNED ÃHEAVY BUFFER BY DEFACING THAT RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.

THE IDEA HERE WAS TO PUT THE RETENTION AREA UP IN THAT NORTH CORNER AND BASICALLY, BACK TOO, TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL BUFFER SPACE TO THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY THAT'S ABOVE IT.

THE SITE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AS EVERYBODY IS PRETTY AWARE, AND I'VE GOT PICTURES THAT WILL SHOW THAT. AND AS WE WENT THROUGH, THERE WAS AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP ABOUT SOME DRAINAGE SINCE IT HASN'T Ã SINCE ALL OF THE FACILITIES HAVE NOT BEEN PUT IN, BUT DURING THAT, STAFF CAME OUT AND HELPED MR. DEMAREE WITH SOME CHANGES TO THIS LOCATION.

THEY HAVE ACTUALLY CHANGED HOW THAT DRAINAGE SYSTEM WILL WORK IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, AND THERE'S A MODIFICATION TO THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN, SO IT WILL COME ALONG WITH THAT.

AS HE SHOWED, THIS IS THE OVERALL IDEA ÃAND YOU ARE NOT MARRIED TO THIS SITE, ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK HANK WOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM BEING MARRIED TO THE SITE SINCE HE STARTED PRETTY WELL DESIGNED AND SET UP FOR THIS ÃAND PART OF THE REASON WAS TO MAINTAIN THIS ACCESS. YOU DID WITH THE SECONDARY BECAUSE OF THE UNITS THERE, BUT THE BUILDINGS WILL BE BACKED UP TO THE RETENTION AREA WITH ALL OF THE ACTIVITY LEVEL IN BETWEEN THEM AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, SAME TYPE OF THING ON EACH OF THESE.

I DID THIS LITTLE SLIDE JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU ALL AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF BUFFERING IS ACTUALLY INVOLVED WITH THIS. SO THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY BUILDINGS AND HIS FIRST BUILDING WHICH IS THE ONE IT'S NOT PERMITTED AT THIS POINT, BUT FOR THE RETENTION, AND THIS DOES NOT SHOW THE RETENTION YET BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT UPDATED, BUT YOU CAN SEE IS WELL OVER 200 FEET, AND THERE WILL BE THE BUFFERS ON BOTH SIDES ÃON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE AS WELL IS ON HIS SIDE, AND ALSO THE RETENTION POND IN AN INITIAL SETBACK. THIS JUST LISTS ALL THE HIGH INTENSITY USES.

THE CW ZONING IS A HYBRID THAT ALLOWS FOR BOTH OF THOSE, BUT IT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT MANY OF THESE HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES ARE ALLOWED BY SPECIAL USE, NOT BY RIGHT.

AND SO IN ORDER TO UTILIZE THOSE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES, WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT WITH STAFF, ELIMINATED A NUMBER OF MEN THAT WON'T BE ALLOWED. BASICALLY WHAT WHAT HE WANTS TO DO IS A FLEX TYPE SPACE WHICH USUALLY IS THINGS LIKE MAYBE A LIGHT MANUFACTURING VEGETABLE PROCESSING TYPE OF THING LIKE HIS CANDY COMPANY TYPE STUFF. AND THOSE ARE VERY HIGH IN DEMAND RIGHT NOW. HE DOESN'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF COMMERCIAL USES BUT THE CI OPPORTUNITY GIVES YOU SOME FOR THE INDOOR RECREATION AND SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE KARATE

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THAT'S THE NEW MAIN ENTRANCE. SOME OF THESE ARE FROM A LITTLE WHILE AGO SOME THAT I UPDATED FROM PLANNING AND ZONING. BECAUSE LOOKING NORTH AND YOU CAN SEE THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AS YOU GO BY. SETTING FOR THE FIRST BUILDING THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.

THAT'S ALSO TO KIND OF SHOW THE RELATIONSHIP TO THAT FIRST HOUSE OR THE MOST SOUTHERLY HOUSE. THIS IS THE ROADWAY AND THIS HAS BEEN YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE EASEMENT AND THIS IS WHERE THE RETENTION POND WILL BE. AND THIS IS TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE EXISTING BUFFER THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW IN ACTIVITY.

THIS IS TAKING BACK SECONDARY EASEMENT ACCESS AND JUST TO KIND OF SHOW THE RELATIONSHIP THERE. THEY DO HAVE FENCING AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE RETENTION POND UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND THE HOUSE ÃTHAT WAS THE HOUSE THAT HAD SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES, BUT WHEN THE SYSTEMS ALL DONE THAT WILL ALL BE CORRECTED. THIS IS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I WENT ALONG THEIR BOUNDARY, COLLECTED THE SAME BOUNDARY. YOU CAN SEE THE FENCE THAT WE SAW FROM THE OTHER SIDE AND YOU CAN SEE THE VEGETATION IS IN THAT LOCATION THAT'S KIND OF PSTANDING IN THAT SAME FIRST MORE NORTHERLY PARKING LOT AND LOOKING AT THE SITE THAT WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT. YOU CAN SEE KIND OF A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT CAN BE SEEN FROM GROUND LEVEL. THAT'S LOOKING TOWARDS THE FIRST BUILDING AND THAT BUFFERING. THOUGHTS FROM GOING ONTO THE NEXT PARKING LOT AND LOOKING BACK AT THE BUILDING. AND THAT'S THE VIEW FROM THE PARKING LOT.

WE DO FEEL THIS IS COMPATIBLE, THAT THE ADJACENT LAND USES WOULD BE DEEMED COMPATIBLE AND COMPATIBILITY STARTS WITH BUFFERING AND WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE WORKING HARD ON THAT.

IT'S DEFINITELY WITH THE INDUSTRIAL TO THE EAST AND THE ZONING TO THE SOUTH.

AND ALSO THE ABUSES HELPS. IT DOES REPRESENT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY SIMILAR INTENSITY TO THE AREA ALONG HERE AND YOU SEE ME COME IN EVEN RECENTLY WITH A FEW OTHER ONES.

THE BUFFERS AND THE SETBACKS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT WILL CONFORM TO THE LDC, AND THOSE BUFFERS WILL PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL, AGAIN, VEGETATION. THE BEE SCREENING REQUIRES 75 PERCENT OPACITY AND IT ADDS TREES THAT HAVE TO BE 20 FEET APART AND 10 FEET HIGH WHEN YOU PLANT THEM. BUT THE IDEA IS TO ADD TO THAT. SO INITIALLY, THEY MAY SEE SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES, BUT AS THOSE GROW UP EVEN THE SECOND STORY SHOULD HAVE SOME BETTER.

THE TRAFFIC FOR THIS ÃAND THAT HAS BEEN A CONCEN ÃTHE FLEX BASED TYPE TRAFFIC IS SHOWN TO BE A LOT LESS THAN WHAT IS ALLOWABLE UNDER TRADITIONAL COMMERCIAL.

COMMERCIAL HAS PEOPLE COMING AND GOING. RESTAURANT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THE FLEX SPACE REALLY TENDS TO BE ÃSOMETIMES THEY HAVE A LARGE WAREHOUSING COMPONENT TO WHAT THEY ARE DOING. SO ACTUALLY, THE TRAFFIC PROBABLY WILL BE REDUCED FROM WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED UNDER COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING. WE DO FEEL THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, POLICIES, AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMP PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LDC.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF NOTES. I KNOW WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME OBJECTIONS.

WE DID NOT, BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING SOME PEOPLE CALLED IN. I UNDERSTOOD.

I KNOW THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBOR CONCERNS. ONE WAS THE STORMWATER ISSUE, WHICH AS WE DISCUSSED WITH EACH OF YOU WAS TAKEN CARE OF VERY QUICKLY AND WILL BE RESOLVED WITH ALL OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION. THE SECOND IS THE CONCERNS REGARDING THE NOISE AND THE COMPATIBILITY. AGAIN, WE FEEL LIKE WITH OVER 200 FEET OF BUFFER AND THE ADDITIONAL BUFFERING THAT WILL BE REQUIRED FROM ALL OF THE VEGETATION IN THE DESIGN DEFINITELY KEEP THAT USE AND ALL OF THE ACTIVITY ACTUALLY

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AND WITH THAT, I WOULD SAY WE WOULD DEFINITELY REQUEST APPROVAL TODAY.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS.

TAYLOR? COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> MR. DEAN: MS. TAYLOR, I AM REFERRING TO A LETTER I RECEIVED THIS MORNING FROM THE HOA PRESIDENT, JESSICA DEBER.

>> IT MUST HAVE COME IN ON AN EMAIL AND I WAS ALREADY HERE. >> IN ANY EVENT, I WOULD LIKE YOU AT SOME POINT TO REVIEW THIS AND MAYBE COMMENT ÃMIKE, IS THIS TO YOU.

SHE IS THE HOA PRESIDENT. HOW MANY UNITS ÃMAYBE THE STAFF KNOWS OR MAYBE YOU KNOW Ã ARE IN SEBASTIAN COVE? HOW MANY CONDOS? 50?

100? WHAT'S OVER 100 >> SHE IS THE HOA PRESIDENT AND SHE IS STRONGLY OBJECTING. SO YOU HAVEN'T HAD ANY DIALOGUE WITH HER IN THE LAST ÃEVER ABOUT REACHING ANY KIND OF POSSIBLE COMPROMISE? BECAUSE LET ME BE HONEST.

I WAS VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS BASED ON THE STAFF PRESENTATION THAT I RECEIVED LAST WEEK, AND I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED BY THESE OBJECTIONS, BUT I DO HAVE THEM NOW AS OF THIS MORNING AND IT CONCERNS ME THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY COMMUNICATION BECAUSE FRANKLY, I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU. BUT MORE THAN 200 FOOT SEPARATION, THE BUFFER THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING, JIMMY, THAT'S GOING BY A LONG WAY TO ASSUAGE THE CONDO OWNERS ABOUT NOISE OR ANY OTHER FACTORS, BUT I WAS JUST HAVING RECEIVED THIS, I DON'T KNOW ÃI DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU, TYLER, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IF YOU'VE NOT SEEN THIS, I'M LEANING TOWARDS SUGGESTING SORT OF LIKE WE DID WITH THE PROJECT LAST MONTH NEXT TO THE AIRPORT WITH NORTHROP GRUMMAN, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER, GET TOGETHER AND TALK AND MAYBE DELAY THIS FOR ONE OR TWO MEETINGS. BUT I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT BECAUSE I JUST GOT THIS THIS

MORNING. >> I SEE IT WAS SENT AT 7:28 THIS MORNING.

AND LIKE I SAID, I PROBABLY RECEIVED ÃI SEE IT'S AN EMAIL BUT I WAS ALREADY HERE AND I DON'T GO THROUGH MIKE ÃSO WE WOULD BE ÃWE WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK TO THEM.

AFTER THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, THEY DIDN'T COMMENT OR SHOP OR WHATEVER, I FELT LIKE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE CONCERNS. SO NOW I RECOGNIZE THAT THEY DO.

AS WE ARE STANDING HERE. I DO KNOW THERE IS A GROUP THERE SITTING RIGHT IN FRONT OF

ME. >> ANYWAY. FOR THOSE WHO MAY WONDER WHY I'M SORT OF JUMPING IN AT THIS POINT THIS IS IN DISTRICT 5. SO I FEEL COMPELLED TO RAISE THE ISSUE AT THIS POINT. BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO

SPEAK AND THEN CERTAINLY FROM THE BOARD. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> MR. BLOCKER: MS. TAYLOR, WHEN I MET WE WENT OVER THIS AND IT SEEMED LIKE AN EXCITING PROJECT. OBVIOUSLY, WE APPRECIATE THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THE COMPANY HAS MADE. I AM CONCERNED READING THESE EMAILS ARE A NUMBER OF ISSUES RAISED BY NOISE AFFECTING PROPERTY VALUES AND WE HAVE TO BALANCE OUT THESE DECISIONS AND MAKE SURE WE HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OVER THE WEEKEND I RECEIVED QUITE A FEW EMAILS AND THERE WERE VARIOUS CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT THIS. I THINK WE AS A BOARD HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO HEAR THIS CONCERNS AND ADDRESS IT. I WANT TO ECHO COMMISSIONER DEAN'S COMMENTS. I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR YOU AS AN APPLICANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THIS CONCERNS AS WELL. THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE LIVE AND ARE RAISING THEIR FAMILIES. I UNDERSTAND NOT EVERYONE WILL AGREE ON THESE PROJECTS.

WE HAVE TO HEAR THESE CONCERNS AND UNDERSTAND THEM. SOME OF THEM ARE VERY CONCERNING. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT PURCHASED SOME PROPERTY THERE AND THEY EXPECTED A CERTAIN QUALITY OF LIFE AND THIS WOULD POTENTIALLY CHANGE THAT.O I THINK, WE NEED TO MAYBE PUMP THE BRAKES HERE AND JUST LISTEN AND UNDERSTAND AND I'M SURE WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT BUT I WANT TO ADDRESS ÃWE MET AND TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THAT POINT. I HAD NOT HEARD FROM ANYONE. THAT'S WHY I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT WE UNDERSTAND. BUT WE HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE NOW AND THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS AND RAPES SO WANT TO GIVE YOU OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE THOSE AS WELL AND SEE IF YOU CAN

ADDRESS IT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> ABSOLUTELY.

GREAT. THANK YOU. >> ANY MORE QUESTIONS?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE WILL NOT OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME WITH HER PUBLIC

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WE HAVE TWO PODIUMS HERE. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND LINE. PLEASE MOVE THROUGH QUICKLY.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. I AM SONIA 2445 GOLDEN LAKE LOOP. AND I AM IN THE SUM ÃAND LOST COMMUNITY.

I THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT.

I AM HERE TODAY TO OPPOSE THE REZONING REQUEST. I AM ONE OF THE 25 OR 30 HOMEOWNERS WHO HAVE RECEIVED THIS NOTIFICATION BECAUSE I AM WITHIN 300 FEET.

BUT ESSENTIALLY, IF THIS IS APPROVED, I BELIEVE IT WILL AFFECT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST THE IMMEDIATE RESIDENCES. THE INFORMATION THAT I'M QUOTING TODAY IS CONTAINED IN A 60 PAGE REPORT COMPARED Ã PREPARED BY MR. JUSTIN KELLY.

THE REZONING OF THESE PARCELS OF LAND TO COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE WOULD ALLOW FOR HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES. WHILE THE COUNTY HAS COMMITTED A HANDFUL OF USES OUTLINED IN THIS REPORT, IT IS STILL LISTED UNDER THE ALLOWABLE USES FOR THE PURPOSE REZONING ÃAND THESE ARE ONLY A FEW. IT WOULD BE CARL'S FACILITIES, PRESENTING TAVERNS, BARS, LODGES, PENCILS, FACILITIES OPERATED BY A LICENSED PARI-MUTUEL PERMIT HOLDER, ALTHOUGH LUBRICATED BUSINESS CENTERS, LIVESTOCK AUCTION FACILITIES, AND WERE SHOOTING AND FIRING RANGES. RECREATIONAL VEHICLES, CAMPGROUND VETERINARIANS, ANIMAL HOSPITAL WITH OUTDOOR CANDLES.

CANDLES ARE ANIMAL BOARDING FACILITIES. FLEA MARKET AND OTHER SIMILAR INDIRECT SALES COMPLEXES, PUPS, MICROBREWERIES AND OTHER SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR FAMILIAR USES THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, IT WOULD BE LIKE MANUFACTURING, NATIONAL FOOD PROCESSING, PACKAGING PLANTS, WAREHOUSING, REGARDS, LARGE-SCALE PRINTING PRESS, EXTERMINATION AND PEST CONTROL SERVICES REPAIR SHOPS, MACHINE SHOP AND RV STORAGE AND MANY WAREHOUSING.

SO REPEATED THE EXISTING ZONING MAY INCLUDE THE REZONING PRODUCES SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES OF THE ADJACENT LAND. FUSED VOTER, DUST, PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES AND OTHER DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS OR NUISANCES.

THE BUFFER THAT I SEE WITH MY OWN EYES RIGHT NOW IS A CUTE SCRAGGLY PINE TREES.

THESE BUILDINGS ARE PROPOSED TO BE 40 FEET TALL. SO THE BUILDING ÃTHE APPLICANT SAID THAT THEY WOULD INCLUDE SIX WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS MEASURING APPROXIMATELY 15,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE AND THEY ALSO SAID THAT THE BUILDINGS WILL FACE EACH OTHER SO THAT ACTIVITIES CONFINED TO THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE WHICH WILL HELP MITIGATE ANY POTENTIAL NOISE. BOTH THE APPLICANT AND THE ATTORNEY AND A LOT OF US RESIDENTS FEEL THAT'S REALLY MIGHT AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM.

>> GOOD MORNING I AM MICHELLE STARK COUNTY 132 FRONTERA DOCTOR I AM AN OWNER IN A BUILDING DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THIS AND I'M HERE TODAY TO OPPOSE THE REASONING EFFORT.

I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME MENTION OF WHY WITH ANYBODY FROM THE COMMUNITY AT THE OTHER HEARING. I JUST LEARNED ABOUT THIS SEVERAL DAYS AGO AND I OWN IN THE BUILDING. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT IT'S TERRIFYING.

IT'S TERRIFYING AS A HOMEOWNER TO NOW YOU MAY HAVE A BUILDING WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR HOME WHERE YOUR CLIENT ENJOYMENT IS. I'M ALSO ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THAT COMMUNITY AND I CAN TELL YOU AS A BOARD MEMBER I HAVE NOT RECEIVED NOTICE THAT THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT THE COMMUNITY. AN FLORIDA STATUTE 718 PROVIDES THAT AS CONDOMINIUM OWNERS, WE ALL OWN AN UNDIVIDED INTEREST IN THE COMMON ELEMENTS. THE COMMON ELEMENTS IS ABUTTING THIS PROJECT. AT THE VERY LEAST THE ASSOCIATION SHOULD BE NOTIFIED SO WE COULD HAVE INFORMED OUR ASSOCIATION COUNCIL TO PERHAPS PREPARE RESPONSE AND THAT IF THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY FELT WAS NEEDED. AT THE VERY LEAST, ALL OF THE OWNERS SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED BECAUSE THEY HOLD AN UNDIVIDED INTEREST IN ATLANTA.

THAT IS GOING TO BE ABUTTING THE BUFFER. THE BUFFER WHICH IS A SMALL RETENTION POND FOR WHICH NOISE, LIGHT, ODORS CAN TRAVEL, IF PROPOSED, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE ADEQUATE SECURITY AND LIGHTING. BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS WILL TOWER OVER WHERE THE RESIDENTS LIVE, THAT LIGHTING AND SECURITY IS GOING TO ALSO BE A

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IT'S ALSO LIGHTING FOR THE SECURITY. I AM HERE TO SAY AS A HOMEOWNER I DON'T THINK I HAD TIME TO PREPARE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.

I SKIMMED THROUGH THE 60 PAGE SLIDES IN AN EMAIL LINK THAT I GOT A FEW DAYS AGO.

BUT THE RESULT OF IT IS IT'S TERRIFYING AS A HOMEOWNER. WE HAVE SEEN PROPERTY VALUES WERE THIS KIND OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY IS ACROSS STATE ROAD 16 WHERE OLD TOWN VILLAGE CONDOS ARE. YOU HAVE THE MARRIOTT BUILDING BUT WORKS OVER THOSE CONDOMINIUMS. I AM ALSO A REALTOR I CAN TELL YOU THAT THOSE HOME VALUES HAVE STAGNATED. I THINK PART OF THE REASON WHY THEY HAVE STAGNATED IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HOTEL THERE. THERE IS ALSO OTHER REASONS WE CAN POINT TO.

THE ISSUE IS I THINK THAT IF THE 300 HOMEOWNERS, 300 DOORS, I THINK IT'S 294.

I THINK IF THE NEARLY 300 HOMEOWNERS ALL HAD NOTICE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON, I THINK THAT YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A LOT MORE EMAILS THAT YOU HAVE HAD OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION. I DO APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> I AM VICKI PAULINO. I'M A HOMEOWNER IN THE SEBASTIAN COVE, THE COMMUNITY THAT'S IN QUESTION HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO COPY AND PASTE ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE TWO PREVIOUS SPEAKERS. I DIDN'T REALLY PREPARE ANYTHING FORMAL. ONE OTHER IDEA THAT OCCURRED TO ME, HOWEVER, WITH REGARDS TO THE HEIGHT OF THESE BUILDINGS, THEY ARE 40 FEET HIGH. THEY ARE GOING TO BE TALLER THAN THE CONDOMINIUM UNITS THAT FACE THEM. THOSE CONDOS THAT FACE THEM HAVE SECOND FLOOR BALCONIES WHERE PEOPLE LIKE TO SIT AND LOOK OUT ON THE FOREST.

IT'S GONE. AND IF YOU WILL BE GONE. AND MY OTHER CONCERN IS FOR THE CHILDREN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY MUST WALK TO SCHOOL BUSES THAT ARE OUT ON 16, SO THEY WALKED DOWN STRATTON TO THAT STOP IN THE MORNING AND THEN WALK HOME IN THE AFTERNOON.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE TYPE OF CLIENTS AND TRAFFIC ACTIVITY THAT MIGHT COME IN THEIR IF THERE ARE VAPE SHOPS OR GAMBLING SHOPS OR WHATEVER SOME OF THESE HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED AS. I WONDER ABOUT THE QUALITY OF PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT MIGHT HAVE INTERACTION WITH THOSE CHILDREN OR POSSIBLY THE CHILREN THEMSELVES MIGHT BE COMING IN AND OUT OF THERE. SOME OF THOSE ACTIVITIES DON'T SEEM APPROPRIATE TO ME FOR YOUNG CHILDREN. I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF THE HOMEOWNERS BOARD AND I HAVE LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR FOUR YEARS NOW, AND IT'S DEVASTATING TO ME TO SEE THE CHANGES THAT ARE COMING. I WOULD SAY WITH THE OTHER TWO SPEAKERS THE ONLY WAY I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS IS A FRIEND OF MINE WAS WALKING BY THE DEVELOPMENT AND SAW YOUR SIGNS THAT INDICATE THERE'S GOING TO BE A ZONING CHANGE.

SHE HAD NOT SEEN THE SIGN ON THE CORNER AND CALLED ME, I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EMAIL SOME OF MY FELLOW HOMEOWNERS TO LET THEM KNOW THIS IS A CONCERN.

WE HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THE HEARING IN DECEMBER AND HAVE ONLY HAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS NOTICE ABOUT THIS. SO IN THE FUTURE WE WOULD LIKE EACH HOMEOWNER TO BE INFORMED OR AT LEAST THE ASSOCIATION SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE ACTIVE. PLEASE DON'T INTERPRET THE FACT THAT THERE ARE ONLY FOUR OF US HERE IS A LACK OF INTEREST BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT'S NOT TRUE. I THINK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

I CONSIDER IT A PRIVILEGE TO SPEAK TO YOU AND I WANT TO MENTION A COMPLEMENT TO JUSTIN KELLY. EVERY TIME WE HAVE CALLED HIM OR EMAILED, HE'S RESPONSIVE AND CLEAR AND ENCOURAGES US TO STAY IN TOUCH. THAT'S TRUE OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY, WHETHER I'VE GONE TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION OR HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR ZONING, ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS, YOU PEOPLE ARE SO RESPONSIVE. I'M HAPPY TO LIVE HERE AND I

HOPE I CONTINUE TO BE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> I AM HECTOR TORRES I LIVE AT 191 S. HAMILTON SPRINGS RD. IN SEBASTIAN COPE I LIVE IN THE SINGLES.

WHICH ARE FURTHER AWAY THAN THE CONDOS. THIS COMMUNITY HAS ONLY ONE WAY AND ONE WAY OUT. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH STRATTON BOULEVARD.

THE TRAFFIC ON ROUTE 16 GETS VERY HEAVY. AT LEAST FOUR DEATHS AT THE INTERSECTION. THIS PROJECT WILL NOT HELP THAT SITUATION.

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THEY WALKED TO ROUTE 16 TO GET PSCHOOL BUSES. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM DOES NOT EVEN RECOGNIZE SO THE CHILDREN ARE AN ISSUE. THEIR SAFETY IS AN ISSUE ALTHOUGH I DON'T HAVE ANY CURRENTLY AND THE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT HAS BECOME VERY UNSAFE TO GET ONTO THAT. ROUTE 16 AT STRATTON BOULEVARD INTERSECTION.

THANK YOU >> ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE COME FORWARD PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE. NOT SEEING ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE NUMBER WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT NOW CLOSED WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD.

ANY DISCUSSION? >> HANK REALLY WANTED TO SAY, BUT I DON'T USUALLY LET MY CLIENTS GET UP AND TALK. HE REALLY APOLOGIZES. WE DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS THIS KIND OF ISSUE. AND I THINK WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MEET WITH THEM AND DISCUSS SOME OPTIONS, MAYBE SOME ELIMINATION OF SOME OF THE OTHER USES.

ONE THING I MENTIONED AND THAT THEY MAY NOT BE AWARE OF, OUR CODE IS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING BECAUSE THERE ARE USES IN ALL OF THOSE LISTS THAT ARE ALLOWABLE BY RIGHT, AND THERE ARE USES ALLOWABLE BY SPECIAL USE. AND A SPECIAL USE REQUIRES A HEARING AND USUALLY CONDITIONAL TYPE THINGS ON IT. SO MANY OF THE USES THAT THEY WERE READING WERE DISTURBED ABOUT WORK BY SPECIAL USES. A LOT OF THOSE WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ELIMINATE AS WELL. AS FOR NOTIFICATION, WE DID FOLLOW THE COUNTY CODE REQUIREMENTS ON NOTIFICATION. AND I KNOW THIS HAS COME UP YEARS AGO. SAWGRASS IS ONE I CAN THINK OF WHERE THE PLAYERS CLUB IS.

YOU KNOW, TO NOTIFY EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AS A GENERAL RULE.

WE USE THE LIST THAT'S PROVIDED TO US BY YOUR GIS DEPARTMENT WHEN WE DO THAT.

AS FOR THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS, IT DOES ALLOW IT TO GO UP TO 40 FEET.

THAT'S WITHIN A CODE. THESE BUILDINGS ARE ABOUT 22 FEET HIGH.

THEY ARE ACTUALLY LOWER THAN THE CONDOMINIUM BUILDINGS THAT THEY LIVE IN.

SO THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING Ã AGAIN, WE CAN CLARIFY THAT WITH THE FOLKS.

IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL BUFFERING AND I KNOW ONE PERSON MENTIONED THE BUFFERING THAT'S THERE, THAT'S THE BUFFERING THAT'S ON THEIR SITE. SO ÃIN HIS SITE THERE ISN'T ANY BUFFERING YET. SO ÃBESIDES SOME OF THE DISTANCE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND HANK REALLY DID THINK ABOUT THIS AND HE LAID THIS OUT OF TRYING TO KEEP ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS FAR AWAY FROM THOSE RESIDENTS AND UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS.

AS FOR LIGHTING, SECURITY, NOISE, THAT'S ANOTHER REASON FOR THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDINGS. ANY ACTIVITY HAS NOISE. SO WHETHER IT'S THE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES THAT HE'S ALREADY ALLOWED TO USE OR THE ACTIVITIES WITHIN US, IT'S STILL GOING TO. AND SO THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON TO USE THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES AS PART OF THE BUFFER. SO WITH THAT, I WILL ASK THAT YOU ALL CONSIDER MAYBE A CONTINUANCE OF THIS SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE HOMEOWNERS.

WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT. >> I WILL MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE ON THIS ITEM WITHOUT A TIME CERTAIN

>> SECOND. >> CAN WE SET A TIME? OR I GUESS MAYBE NOT BECAUSE WE

DON'T KNOW THE AGENDAS >> WE CAN'T BUT I WOULD PREFER ÃI'M NOT SURE WHEN THAT TIME

WOULD BE. >> THEN MAY GO THROUGH THE NEXT ÃWHAT DOES HAPPEN WITH THAT IS THEN YOU RE-ADVERTISE AGAIN SO YOU HAVE ANOTHER EXTRA PERIOD OF ANOTHER BASICALLY 30 DAYS

KIND OF TO COVER ALL OF THE ADVERTISING. >> MS. TAYLOR, I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH ANYTHING YOU SUGGEST, BUT I WANT TO REPEAT THAT I DO HAVE MAJOR CONCERNS TODAY, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY GET WORKED OUT, WHETHER IT'S 15 DAYS OR 60 DAYS OR 180 DAYS. I'M NOT GOING TO BE COMFORTABLE UNTIL THERE'S SOME ASSURANCES

WE HAVE ADDRESSED THESE ISSUES. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> I THINK IT'S JUST FAIR I LET

YOU KNOW MY FEELINGS TODAY SO I DON'T SURPRISE YOU. >> I DON'T WANT TO WASTE YOUR

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PROGRESS. >> I WILL HAVE A MOTION ÃI WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO MOVE THAT THIS ITEM BE WITHDRAWN AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT AND THE RE-AGENDA AT A TIME

CERTAIN OF Ã >> NOT WITHDRAWN. NOT WITHDRAWN.

CERTAINLY, AS YOU FIRST PUT IT, CONTINUE. >> CONTINUED TO A TIME ÃWHEN

WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO COME BACK? >> I WOULD THINK THE FIRST MEETING IN APRIL WILL BE

SUFFICIENT >> UNDER THIS ITEM BE CONTINUED UNTIL THE FIRST MEETING IN

APRIL. >> SECOND. >> THAT WILL GIVE US TWO MONTHS

>> I RECOGNIZE THAT MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND A SECOND TO HAVE IT CONTINUED TO THE FIRST MEETING IN APRIL. WE WILL LEAVE THAT FOR A VOTE AND DISCUSSION AS IT ANSWERS

HERE. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> MR. BLOCKER: I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY DIRECT STAFF WE HEARD SOME GREAT COMMENTS ABOUT STAFF AND MR. KELLY.

SOME RESIDENTS OF THANK YOU FOR THAT. THIS TENDS TO COME UP OFTEN ABOUT THE NOTICE NOT BEING ÃWE HEAR ÃWE HAVE HEARINGS IN THE PCA WILL HAVE A HEARING AND WE HEAR FROM A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT REALLY HAVE JUST SEEN IT AND SEEM TO HAVE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT. I THINK WE'VE LOOKED INTO THIS WE HAVE OUR STAFF LOOKING INTO IT. I THINK I WANT TO REITERATE I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE. WE ARE UNDER FLORIDA LAW ALLOWED TO EXPAND THAT AND I THINK ÃWHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS ÃAND I WILL SPEAK TO THE BOARD HERE

>> WE MAKE A DECISION WE ARE AT THIS FINAL POINT WHERE YOU HAVE AN APPLICANT READY TO ÃWE HEAR FROM A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT FRANKLY THEIR WALKING THEIR DOG AND SEE A SIGN AND WE NEED TO CONTINUED DOING A BETTER JOB NOTICING ROUGH RESIDENTS GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD ON THIS. I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT HAPPENED IN SITUATION, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF TO CONTINUE LOOKING AT THIS ISSUE AND LOOKING AS SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS ÃYOU ARE GOING TO BRING US RECOMMENDATIONS, HOW WE CAN CONTINUE AND GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.

WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE.> WE ARE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNS, ALONG COMMISSIONER BLOCKER'S LINES OF THOUGHT, WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD FULL OF RIGHTS THAT EVERY COMMUNITY CAN SIGN UP FOR SO THAT THE BOARD IS NOTIFIED OF PTHESE NOTICES, NOT JUST INDIVIDUALS WITHIN SO MANY FEET, I'D LIKE TO KNOW BEFORE WE ADJOURN WHETHER THIS COMMUNITY HAS SIGNED UP FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BILL OF RIGHTS SO THAT THEIR BOARD WILL KNOW OF ANY CHANGES WHATEVER THE RANGES SO THEY CAN DISSEMINATE THAT INFORMATION TO THEIR HOMEOWNERS NOT JUST SOME OF THE HOMEOWNERS WHICH BY OUR LAWS UNDERSTANDABLY ONLY NOTIFY SO MANY HUNDREDS OF FEET AWAY FROM THE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOUR BOARD IS AWARE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BILL OF RIGHTS.

THE LIMITATIONS OF REGULATIONS FROM NOTICES FROM INDIVIDUAL HOMES.

IT WILL BE A DOUBLE COMMUNICATION, BUT I FEEL WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB EDUCATING OUR COMMUNITIES SO THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN TO THE APPLICANT, TO US, TO STOP OR TO YOU. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE INFORMATION IS NOT JUST ON AN ORANGE AND YELLOW SIGN ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD BUT ACTIVELY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THIS COMMUNITY IS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD BILL OF RIGHTS, IF THEY ARE NOT, PLEASE LET THEM KNOW HOW TO SIGN UP FOR IT. IT IS A PASSIVE SYSTEM WHERE YOU HAVE TO APPLY.OU ARE NOT AUTOMATICALLY ON IT SO YOU ARE NOT GETTING BARRAGED WITH UNREQUESTED EMAILS AND I WANT TO BRING THAT UP ON OUR FEET SO ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY CAN CHECK TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ON THAT NPR NOTICE FOR ANY POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THEIR RANGE OF ANY PART OF THEIR COMMUNITY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT REQUEST BEFORE THE END OF THE MEETING TODAY AND LET US KNOW IF THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY IS ON NOTICE AND IF NOT PLEASE LET THEM KNOW HOW TO BE ADDED TO THE LIST.HANK YOU, MR.

CHAIRMAN. >> MR. SMITH: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, THE FIRST APRIL MEETING IS APRIL 7, SO THE PROPOSITION ÃTHE MOTION IS TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THE FIRST APRIL MEETING AT THE REGULAR 9:00 A.M. MEETING.

>> SURE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. PLEASE VOTE.

AND IT PASSES 5 TO 0 TO CONTINUE IT TO APRIL 7. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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AMENDMENT SANCTUARY COUNTY. MR. SORIA. >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS AGENDA ITEM 4. THIS IS A RESOLUTION PROPOSING TO DECLARE ST. JOHNS COUNTY A SECOND AMENDMENT SANCTUARY. THE LAST MEETING ON JANUARY 21 THE BOARD DIRECTED THE STAFF TO PREPARE RESOLUTION DECLARING ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS A SECOND AMENDMENT STATE IT WAS CONCERNED OVER INFRINGEMENT OVER THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS IS PROVIDED IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.

THERE IS SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN FLORIDA AS OF TODAY 26/67 COUNTIES ONE CITY AND ONE TOWN HAVE ADOPTED SIMILAR SECOND AMENDMENT SANCTUARY RESOLUTIONS NATIONWIDE FOR ENTIRE STATES IN HUNDREDS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND OTHER STATES HAVE ADOPTED SIMILAR MEASURES. SO THIS KIND OF REQUEST WAS Ã CAME FROM INTERESTED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AT ST. JOHNS COUNTY JOINED WITH FELLOW LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND STATE GOVERNMENTS TO ALSO ADOPT SIMILAR SECOND AMENDMENT SANCTUARY RESOLUTIONS.

SO HERE IS KIND OF A BROAD MAP AS OF JANUARY 29TH OVER THE APPROPRIATE STATES AND COUNTIES WITHIN THE NATION THAT HAVE PASSED SIMILAR ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS.

THE PURPOSE AFFIRMS THE SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS FOR LAWFUL PURPOSE WITH SUPREME COURT RULINGS PRIMARILY SELF-DEFENSE AS A BASIC RIGHT IN ITS DEEPLY ROOTED IN THE NATION'S HISTORY AND TRADITION AND IS A CENTRAL COMPONENT TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT IN THE COURTS HAVE STATED THAT IT IS FUNDAMENTAL TO OUR SPEED ABOARD THE LIBERTY. IT ALSO AFFIRMS THAT SIMILAR Ã SAME OR SIMILAR RIGHT IN THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION AND HIS BOARD IN 2011 AND ACTED AN ORDINANCE THAT REPEALED ANY ORDNANCE RULE OR RESOLUTION OF OUR POLICY IN THE FIELD OF REGULATION OF FIREARMS, AMMUNITION AND COMPONENTS THEREOF. AND ALSO IT STATES OPPOSITION TO PROGRAMS ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND POTENTIAL OF THE STATE LEVEL AND MEASURES THAT INFRINGE UPON THE SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT. AND THIS IS A POTENTIAL MOTION FOR DISCUSSION CONTINUING WITH DELIBERATION AMENDMENT OR YOU CAN TAKE ACTION AND ADOPT THE

RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. SORIYA.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD OR STAFF? SEEING THAT BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS RESOLUTION AND MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2020 Ã25

DECLARING ST. JOHNS COUNTY A SECOND AMENDMENT SANCTUARY >> SECOND

>> OF A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH AND THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

WE WILL GO NOW TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, ALL. I AM MARK, 120 LAUREL WOODWAY AND ST. AUGUSTINE. I AM ONE OF THE REGION LISA FLORIDA CARRIE INCORPORATED A STATEWIDE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO THE PRESERVATION OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT HERE IN THE STATE. AND I JUST WANTED TO VOICE OUR SUPPORT AND APPRECIATION, HOPEFULLY, FOR THE ADOPTION OF THIS RESOLUTION. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME, PLEASE COMPORT? PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4. MR. CHAIRMAN, SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4. >> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSED WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY 5 TO 0. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ALONG ON THE AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER 5 HAS BEEN PULLED. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6.

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>> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN. SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY.

HERE TO PRESENT AN ITEM OF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE LIABILITY CLAIMS SETTLEMENT ORDINANCE. THE BOARD HAD REQUESTED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REVIEWED HIS ORDINANCE SUPPORT POSSIBLY INCREASING THE AUTHORITY GIVEN TO THE COUNT ADMINISTRATOR FROM THE PRESENT $10,000 TO $25,000 TO NEGOTIATE AND SETTLE LIABILITY CLAIMS BROUGHT AGAINST THE COUNTY AND FOR YOUR REFERENCE AS THE CURRENT LANGUAGE.

ORDINANCE 2011-4. THE BASIC COMPONENTS OF WHICH AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR DESIGNEE TO SETTLE OR NEGOTIATE THE AND SETTLE ANY LIABILITY CLAIM UP TO $10,000 WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE NONMONETARY

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THE AMENDMENTS PROPOSED TODAY INCLUDE, AS I SAID, INCREASING THE SETTLEMENT AUTHORITY TO $25,000 TO PROVIDE EXPRESS THE FACTORS THAT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION CONSIDER WHEN CONSIDERING WHETHER TO SETTLE A CASE WITHIN THE AUTHORITY AND ALSO TO CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE THAT CURRENTLY THAT SAYS THE ADVICE OF COUNTY ATTORNEY TO BE CLEAR THERE ISN'T ANY SUNSHINE ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO THEIR CONCURRENCE ÃADVICE RATHER THAN CONCURRENCE.

SO HERE IS THE LANGUAGE OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AS YOU SEE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT LONGER BECAUSE WE'VE INCLUDED THOSE FACTORS THAT I HAVE MENTIONED CLARIFIES THAT IT WOULD BE AT THE ADVICE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WOULD INCREASE THE SETTLEMENT AUTHORITY TO $25,000 AND THOSE FACTORS INCLUDE, AS YOU CAN SEE, REALLY LET IT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY THAT THE SETTLEMENT GO FORWARD AFTER CONSIDERING THE LEGAL LIABILITY, THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGES CLAIMED, THE POTENTIAL ÃLITIGATION EXPENSES POTENTIAL FINANCIAL EXPOSURE OF THE COUNTY, THE PRESIDENTIAL EFFECT IF ANY POTENTIAL LITIGATION AND THE EFFECT OF THE CLAIM SUED UPON COUNTY POLICIES AND PRACTICES. AND THEN SECTION 2 WOULD ALSO BE AMENDED TO CLARIFY THAT IT BE WITH THE ADVICE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

AS THIS BOARD KNOWS, THE COUNTY DOES HAVE GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE AND AUTO LIABILITY INSURANCE THROUGH THE 40 ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY TRUSTS AND THERE IS A DEDUCTIBLE THAT THE COUNTY HAS OF $10,000 GENERALLY IN ANY FUNDS BEYOND THAT THAT ARE COVERED BY THE POLICY WOULD BE BORNE BY FACT, BUT THERE ARE EXCLUSIONS IN ANY INSURANCE POLICY AND AS YOU WILL SEE ON THE SLIDE MORE OF YOUR COMMON EXAMPLES OF EXCLUSIONS THAT YOU MIGHT Ã THAT MIGHT BE COVERED ÃNOT COVERED BY INSURANCE POLICIES. THINGS LIKE BREACH OF CONTRACT CLAIMS AND THAT INCLUDES A CONTRACT THAT MIGHT ÃWHERE THE COUNTY MIGHT HAVE ASSUMED LIABILITY FOR ANOTHER ENTITY, FRONT AND BACK ÃFRONT AND BACK BENEFITS AND EMPLOYMENT CLAIMS SO THAT WOULD BE IF SOMEONE WERE WRONGFULLY DISCHARGED AND WAS NOT ABLE TO BE RETURNED TO THEIR POSITION FRONT PAY WOULD NOT BE COVERED BY INSURANCE. POLLUTANT OR A CONTAMINANT DISCHARGE, FLOOD DAMAGE, LOSSES RELATING TO ÃPUBLIC RECORDS AND PUBLIC MEETING LAW VIOLATIONS ARE EXCLUDED FROM COVERAGE. SO THOSE WOULD BE THE TYPES OF CLAIMS THAT THIS AUTHORITY AND BEYOND THE DEDUCTIBLE MIGHT COVER.

I DID REVIEW A SURVEY OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN FLORIDA OF WHAT AUTHORITY THEY HAVE PROVIDED. YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THEM HERE UNDER THE SINGLE TEAR CATEGORY, THOSE ARE ONES WHERE THERE'S EITHER AN ORDINANCE OR A POLICY THAT JUST PROVIDES A FLAT NUMBER EITHER TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OR SOME OTHER OFFICIAL. SO WE HAVE 20,000 IN BAY COUNTY, 50,000 IN CHARLOTTE, 30,000 IN MANATEE, 25 AND PULLED. THE MULTIPLE TIER SECTION THAT REFLECTS COUNTIES WHERE MAYBE THEY HAVE GRANTED AUTHORITY TO ONE OFFICIAL UP TO SOME LEVEL AND THEN MAYBE TO A COMMITTEE OR TO A GROUP AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL.

IN BROWARD THEY HAVE THREE TIERS AND A WHOLE SEPARATE TIER BASED ON WHAT KIND OF CLAIM IT IS. THAT IS HOW SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES HAVE GONE, BUT PURSUANT TO THIS COURT'S DIRECTION WHEN THIS ISSUE WAS FIRST RAISED ONLY HERE ELECTED TO JUST INCREASE THE CURRENT AUTHORITY RATHER THAN CREATE TIERS FOR COMPLICATED SETTLEMENT REVIEW SYSTEM. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE OR PHONE CALLS AND AM NOT AWARE OF ANY EMAILS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT OR ANY OTHER GROUPS THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THIS. TODAY IS JUST THE FIRST READING SO NO ACTION IS NECESSARY AT THIS TIME OTHER THAN PROVIDING COMMENT AND DIRECTION TO ME AND I CAN THEN BRING FORWARD ANY REVISIONS TO YOU AT A SECOND READING. THAT'S ALL FOR ME.

THANK YOU >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

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>> I CAN LOOK AT THAT TODAY, FOR SURE.>> I HAVE A QUESTION ANIN REGARD TO THE DEDUCTIBLE. HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION TO INCREASING THAT?

>> HAVE NOT BEEN PRIVY TO ANY. ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY? AND THIS BOARD SHOULD ALSO NOTE THERE IS CURRENTLY A BILL PENDING INTO LEGISLATURE TO INCREASE OUR LIABILITY LIMITS RIGHT NOW. HOPEFULLY, THAT WON'T BE GOING ANYWHERE, BUT IT WOULD BE RAISING FROM OUR CURRENT 200, 300,000 PER OCCURRENCE LIMITS TO UP TO $1 MILLION, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT MIGHT AFFECT OUR INSURANCE, BUT YOU CAN IMAGINE IT WOULD

>> I CAN ENSURE YOU THAT WILL AFFECT THE INSURANCE. SO THERE'S CONSIDERATIONS THAT

ARE PENDING NOW. >> MR. CHAIR, I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD QUESTION THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IN THE INTERIM. WE CAN REACH OUT AND ASK THEM IF THERE'S ANY PLANS OR

DISCUSSION AND IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE >> I APPRECIATE THE LIST THAT YOU PROVIDED ESPECIALLY IN THE MULTITIER AS WELL AND JUST BE CURIOUS AS TO WHY SOME OF THOSE ARE IN PLACE AND IF THERE IS A COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS TO OVERSEE THAT ADDITIONAL

EXPENDITURE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I CAN ANSWER SOME OF THAT.

I THINK YOU CAN IMAGINE, OF COURSE DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS.

WE ARE NOT JACKSONVILLE, WE ARE NOT MIAMI-DADE. AND YOU MAY EXPECT THAT THEY MAY GET MORE CLAIMS AND WILL HAVE A MORE COMPLICATED BUREAUCRACY THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT SOMETIMES. SO THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE A RISK MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, WHICH MADE UP OF PERHAPS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND ADDITIONAL STAFF WHO WOULD REVIEW AND MEET. THEY MAY BE GRANTED AUTHORITY IN SOME OF THESE TIERS AND DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS, AS I SAID, MIGHT START WITH GIVING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY $7500 WORTH OF AUTHORITY AND THEN SAYING, WELL, WE WANT TO GO MORE THAN THAT. COUNTY ATTORNEY AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR UP TO SOME LEVEL AND THEN MAYBE ELEVATING IT BEYOND THAT TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.HERE IS A WHOLE HOST OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO THIS. AGAIN, BASED ON THE BOARD'S DIRECTION INITIALLY WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT UP, WE DIDN'T ELECT TO FURTHER COMPLICATED BUT JUST TO ADDRESS WITH THE BOARD HAD WANTED TO. BUT WE CAN'T ÃIF YOU'D LIKE US TO LOOK INTO IT AND PROPOSE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL

>> I JUST APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION. I LOOKED AT IT AND IT HAS A CERTAIN IMPACT ON THE IN MY THINKING AND YOUR EXPLANATIONS ADEQUATE.

IT WILL SUFFICE TO SQUELCH ANY KIND OF ME DIRECTING THAT. >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, I WANT TO COMMENT ON YOUR QUESTION. ONE THING FOR SOME OF THOSE JURISDICTIONS, SOME OF THEM ARE NOT IN THE LIABILITY PULLED THE WAY ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS WITH THE FACT THEY ARE SO-CALLED SELF-INSURED AND FOR A LOT OF THEM, THEY WOULD BE SETTLING THINGS IN A FASHION THE WAY IT SETTLES SOME OF OUR ÃCOURT RELATED CLAIMS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE DISTINCTION THERE AND THAT'S WHY SOME OF THEM ARE QUITE HIGHER AND

THAT'S JUST ANOTHER FACTOR. THANK YOU. >> JACKSONVILLE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. THEY ARE SELF-INSURED SO THAT'S WHY YOU SAW THE ONE TIER THAT ADDRESSES SELF-INSURED CLAIMS AND THEY HAVE A RISK MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AND ALL OTHER CLAIMS

ARE REVIEWED UNDER THAT PROCESS. >> THAT HELPS EXPLAIN A LOT.

I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE MY PREFERENCE AT THIS POINT.

IT'S WITH NO ÃI JUST HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT RAISING IT FROM 10,000 DEDUCTIBLE.

I DO NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE LANGUAGE OR CHANGING FROM CONCURRENCE TO ADVICE.

I THINK THAT'S FINE. MOVING AND DECREASING THE DEDUCTIBLE HAVING ÃI'M VERY COMFORTABLE TODAY. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS DISCUSSION AS WELL

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> IF I COULD JUST ADDRESS THIS.

GREAT SLIDES. I LOVE THE COMPARISONS. WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY NOT TO

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WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THESE LINES IN OUR BRIEFING? >> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THOSE SLIDES PRIOR TO THIS SO I CAN REVIEW IT AND LOOK AT IT. I THINK I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE. WHEN CAN WE EXPECT ÃI'M TALKING ABOUT STUFF SPECIFIC BRIEFINGS. WE HAVE A STAFF MEMBER COME UP IN BRIEF WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THOSE SLIDES IN OUR BRIEFING SO WE CAN HAVE THOSE AS A REFERENCE POINT?

>> AND I WILL ANSWER FOR THIS SPECIFIC ONE, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

I APOLOGIZE IT WASN'T INCLUDED WITH YOUR MATERIALS. WE PREPARED IT IN TIME BUT JUST

DIDN'T INCLUDE IT. >> THESE LINES ARE GREAT. GREAT WORK, GREAT RESEARCH, EXACTLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. WHEN CAN WE START GETTING THOSE SLIDES?

>> AT THE NEXT MEETING >> GREAT. THANK YOU.

SAME FOR YOUR OFFICE AS WELL? THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS?

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. IT BRINGS ME BACK TO OUR DISCUSSIONS OF BACKYARD CHICKENS. HOW MANY LITIGANTS HAVE WE HAD COME TO US WITH ISSUES THAT WOULD TRIP THE 10,000 VERSUS THE 25,000 THRESHOLD WE ARE DISCUSSING?

>> AND I DID LOOK AT THAT IN THE RECENT HISTORY WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING THAT WOULD TRIP THIS. MEANING SOMETHING THAT FELL OUTSIDE OF OUR INSURANCE COVERAGE IN THAT, YOU KNOW THE DEDUCTIBLE ISSUE WOULD BE AT PLAY AND I LOOK BACK FOR ABOUT FIVE ALSO AND ALL OUR SALMON FEEDER WERE COVERED BY OR WE WERE ABLE TO RESOLVE WITHOUT ANY MONETARY PAYMENT. SO WE HAVE NOT SEEN IT IN THAT TIMEFRAME.

PATRICK MAY HAVE SOME MEMORY BEYOND MINE, BUT I THINK THE IDEA IS TO NOT GET TO THAT POINT WHERE IF WE DO RECEIVE A CLAIM THAT ISN'T COVERED INSURANCE INVOLVES THESE EXCLUSIONS BUT NEVERTHELESS DOESN'T RISE TO THE LEVEL YOU NEED TO BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD AND TAKE PEOPLE IN PUBLIC TIME AND ATTENTION THAT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ADDRESS IT IF WE GOT SUCH A CLAIM. BUT THE SIMPLE ANSWER WE HAVE NOT HAD ANYTHING IN RECENT HANDFUL OF YEARS.> SO THIS CHANGE EFFECTIVELY WOULD NOT HAVE ANY MATERIAL IMPACT ON WHAT WE HAVE RECEIVED TO DATE HISTORICALLY SPEAKING OTHER THAN THE LITIGANTS, WHAT BENEFIT WOULD THIS BE TOO OUR TAXPAYERS WILL FOOT IS BUILT BY

INCREASING THIS LIMITATION? >> WELL, THE BOARD ALWAYS TO SETTLE THE CLAIM FOR $25,000 OR MORE. THE BENEFITS WOULD BE ALLOWING COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WITH THE ADVICE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO TURN THE SETTLEMENTS AROUND QUICKER INCLUDING REJECTING CLAIMS ARE NOT MERITED AS WELL RATHER THAN BRINGING THE CLAIM TO THE BOARD AND TAKING TIME AND ATTENTION AS WELL. THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHERE HE RECEIVED CLAIMS THAT THE LITIGANT OR REQUIRE A QUICK TURNAROUND, AND IT CAN BE OF BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY TO SAY THAT THE COUNTY IS ABLE TO PAY THE SETTLEMENT VERY EXPEDITIOUSLY IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT SETTLEMENT, AND THAT CAN BE A BENEFIT THAT LITIGANTS PREFER AND THEN CAN HELP PUSH IT OVER THE LINE SOMETIMES TO SAY WE CAN GUARANTEE A PAYMENT IN A SHORT, WHICH SOMETIMES IS

OF BENEFIT TO LITIGANTS. >> TO BE FAIR INITIATED THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

I DIDN'T WANT IT TO SOUND SELF-SERVING IN THE CONVERSATION.

BUT I'MNOT IN FAVOR OF INCREASING THE LIMITATION TO MAKING IT EASIER TO REQUEST MORE FUNDS. I THINK SOMEBODY NEEDS TO DEMONSTRATE ÃWE ARE NOT PERFECT, WE MAKE MISTAKES AND PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO REPARATIONS WHEN THEY ARE IN THE RIGHT WE CERTAINLY WANT TO GRANT THAT TO PEOPLE. DON'T WANT TO GIVE A FASTPASS TO PEOPLE INCREASING FROM $10,000-$25,000 JUST FOR THE SAKE OF EASE.

IT NEEDS TO BE DEMONSTRATED THAT THOSE FUNDS REQUESTED DEMONSTRATED TO BE EARNED ON THE RIGHT. SO I WOULD BE RELUCTANT TO INCREASE THIS BASED ON THE LACK OF HAVING ANY REAL BENEFIT TO FAST TRACKING ANY LITIGATION TO DATE.

IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE HAD A NEED FOR IN THE PAST >> I THINK WE DO HAVE BENEFIT FROM THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF AUTHORITY THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR HAS.

AND WE HAVE SPECIFIED IN THIS AMENDMENT CERTAIN FACTORS THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER. I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH THE IMPRESSION THAT SOMEBODY'S GETTING A CHECK FOR $25,000 ANYTIME THEY COME IN AND ASK FOR IT.

YOU KNOW, WITH THE ADVICE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, OF COURSE, THE COUNTY

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SO I KNOW YOU WERE THINKING THAT WAS THE CASE, MR. COMMISSIONER, BUT NOBODY IS GOING TO COME IN AND JUST GET A CHECK FOR $25,000 EVEN UNDER THIS.

>> I JUST WANTED OUR TAXPAYERS TO KNOW WE ARE WATCHING OUT FOR THEIR DOLLARS AND YOU ARE DOING YOUR JOB VERY EFFECTIVELY NOT TO HAVE ANY MORE CLAIMS AND WE DO HAVE IN OUR COUNTY AND WE APPRECIATE THE SERVICE THAT LEGAL AND ADMINISTRATION PROVIDE TO TREAT EVERYBODY FAIRLY AND EQUITABLY BUT NOT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE AN EASY CASH SOURCE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> I JUST HAVE TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER JOHN'S COMMENTS. ON ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS FORWARD TO THE BOARD AND THE REASON WAS SOME WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE HERE.

THIS IS NOT A FASTPASS TO GET MORE MONEY. WHAT THIS IS IS HOW IT SAVES THE TAXPAYERS AS WE HAVE LAWYERS THAT WORK HERE AND THEY HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME TO DO THESE CLAIMS AND LITIGATE AND EVERY TIME THEY HAVE TO BRING US BEFORE THE BOARD THIS IS OUR TIME AND REALLY IT'S A MINUTE LEGAL ISSUE. THIS IS NOT A FASTPASS AT ALL.

THERE'S NOTHING ANYONE ON THIS BOARD IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO TO BE ABLE TO PREVENT THIS.

THIS IS LOOKING AT A WAY WHERE WE CAN MAXIMIZE OUR TIME SO THEY ARE NOT HAVING TO BRING ALL OF THESE ISSUES AND WHAT THIS MEANS IS AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS TODAY IF WE HAVE A CLAIM THAT WE HAVE TO SETTLE ABOVE $10,000 IT HAS TO BE BROUGHT TO US AS A BOARD.

I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT'S GOOD USE OF OUR TIME. I THINK THERE'S GOOD ARGUMENT HOW WE CAN ADDRESS UP AND WANT TO BE CLEAR. THIS IS NOT A FASTPASS.

IT'S NOT HOW THE PUBLIC'S GOING TO GET THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND WE ARE GIVING THEM IF WE GO AT THIS. THEY ARE SAYING WE TRUST MR. CONRAD WOULD YOU TRUST THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO EVALUATE THESE CLAIMS MAKE A DECISION IN THE WITHOUT HAVING TO RUN BACKUPS FOR EVERY CLAIM THAT $11,000 POTENTIALLY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR ON THAT. THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE SAVING THE TAXPAYERS TIME AND ENERGY.

THERE'S A COST TO LITIGATION. IT'S VERY COSTLY TO THE COUNTY, IT'S COSTLY TO THE LITIGANTS.

SO I DIDN'T BRING THIS UP, AS A WIN. I RESEARCHED THIS.

HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THIS. ONE OF THE WAYS OTHER COUNTIES HAVE STOPPED BLEEDING MONEY IN LITIGATION IS TO GIVE OTHER ATTORNEYS IN THE ADMINISTRATOR THEY TRUST MORE SAVES TIME. THERE MAY BE GOOD REASONS, COMMISSIONER SMITH BROUGHT UP GOOD CAUTIONS THAT WE NEEDED TO CONSIDER BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL DEALING WITH THE SAME POSITIVE. I AM THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS UP, NOT THE STAFF BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE EMPOWERING OUR STAFF AND WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE SAME

PAGE HERE. >> THANK YOU. >> MR. CHAIR, I DID WANT ÃI THINK THIS WAS A VERY USEFUL INQUIRY AND REVIEW. AND SOMETIMES IT'S JUST LIKE, HEY, IT'S THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT, THAT TYPE OF THING. SOMETIMES IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO RELOOK AT SOMETHING WITH PROS AND CONS, THAT KIND OF THING.

THERE ARE PROS AND CONS FOR REMOVING THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS BEYOND DEBATE IS CHANGING SOME OF THIS LANGUAGE THAT MR. BAUTISTA HAD POINTED OUT.

SO WE WILL COME BACK ON THE SECOND MEETING AND I ALSO WILL SAY THAT FOR SOME OF THESE LARGER JURISDICTIONS, YOU KNOW, SOMEDAY ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS GOING TO BE OVER 300,000 PEOPLE OVER 350,000 PEOPLE, ETC. AND THAT DYNAMIC MAY CHANGE. YOU KNOW, WITH POPULATION THERE CAN BE MORE CLAIMS, THAT TYPE OF THING AND THAT MAY CHANGE THE DYNAMIC.

THE COUNTY MAY NOT BE THERE YET FOR THE COMFORT OF THE BOARD. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6.

PLEASE COME BOARD. >> NOT SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT NOW

CLOSE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> AND I THINK I HAVE A SENSE FROM THE BOARD, AND I WILL COME BACK FOR A SECOND MEETING WITH ANSWERS TO MR. WALTER'S QUESTIONS AND SOME ADDITIONAL

RESEARCH FOR YOUR >> THANK YOU AND WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT IN THE FUTURE.

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WE WILL MOVE ALONG TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7. MS. LUNDQUIST? >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

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ITEM NUMBER 74 TODAY IS CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL THERE ARE CURRENTLY THREE VACANCIES ON THIS BOARD.HEY ARE DUE 2 TO EXPIRE TERMS WHEN HIS RESIGNATION ALL THREE VACANCIES REQUIRE A PROFESSIONAL FROM THE DISCIPLINE OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. ATTACHED IN YOUR PACKET, YOU SHOULD SEE THE LETTER FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL WITH 19 APPLICATIONS. I DO KNOW COMMISSIONER SMITH, YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT MR. CHIP FIRTH WHO WAS IN NOVEMBER POINTED ON THE IDA. HIS APPLICATION IS IN THIS PACKET. THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL IS ONE OF THOSE THAT DOES NOT TRIGGER THE DUAL STATUS. IT DOES NOT PROHIBIT THE DUAL STATUS ON THIS PARTICULAR BOARD. SO HE COULD SERVE ON BOTH.

HOWEVER, I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT WE DID NOT REACH OUTTO SEE IF THAT IS TRULY WOULD BE HIS DESIRE OR NOT. THOUGH I KNOW YOU POSED THAT QUESTION TO ME EARLIER AND I HAD NOT HAD THE TIME TO ANSWER THAT FOR YOU. BASICALLY, THAT IS THE GIST OF THIS ITEM, AND YOU WILL SEE BELOW ONE OF THE APPOINTMENTS WOULD BE TO THAT TERM HAD NOT BEEN FULLY COMPLETED. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM

>> ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7. PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7 PLEASE COME FORWARD. MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THIS TIME SEE NO ONE COMING FORWARD WE WILL

CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7. >> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT NOW CLOSE, I WILL MAKE THE MOTION IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH THE BOARD UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO, I WILL GO ALONG THE LINES OF RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS COUNSEL.

MOTION TO WILLIAM A COVER FOR A FULL FOUR-YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE FEBRUARY 4, 2024.

>> SECOND >> OF EMOTION AND A SECOND A MOTION BY SMITH AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON. PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES 5 TO 0. MOTION TO REAPPOINT TARA HALEY TO THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR A FULL

FOUR-YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE EBRUARY 4, 2024. >> SECOND

>> HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JOHNS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING THEM, PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES 5 TO 0. MOTION TO APPOINT THOMAS J NIELSEN TO THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR A PARTIAL

TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE SEPTEMBER 21, 2021. >> SECOND

>> HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

I CAN ALMOST GET BACK TO COMMISSIONER JOHNS AS WELL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. AND IT PASSES 5 TO 0 AS WELL. WE WILL MOVE ALONG TO AGENDA

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INUMBER NUMBER 8. >> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8 IS TO CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES ON THIS BOARD DUE TO EXPIRE TERMS. IN YOUR PACKET YOU SHOULD HAVE A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD, ALONG WITH NINE APPLICATIONS. I DO WANT TO NOTE THIS ITEM WAS GOING TO GO BEFORE YOU ON FEBRUARY 18 BUT IT GOT MOVED UP TO THE FOURTH. SO ON YOUR SUGGESTED MISSIONS INSTEAD OF STATING THE 18TH TO BE EXACT FOR A FOUR-YEAR TERM IT WOULD BE FEBRUARY 4 OF 2020.

AND THAT'S THE BASICS OF THAT ITEM. ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO

ANSWER THOSE. >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A

MOTION. >> SHORT. >> AT THIS TIME I MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT DEB CHAPMAN TO THE ADVISORY BOARD SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE FEBRUARY FOURTH, 2024.

>> I HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> THE SECOND

>> OF A MOTION BY BLOCKER AND A SECOND BY DEAN. THIS IS THE FIRST MOTION HERE

AND WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT >> AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HEAR

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FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8 WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT >> WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

IT PASSES 5 TO 0. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR A SECOND SEAT.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM PREPARED TO MAKE AN ADDITIONAL MOTION. >> MR. BLOCKER?> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT ALEXANDER HILL TO THE RECREATIONAL ADVISORY BOARD FOR

A FULL OR YOUR TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE FEBRUARY 4, 2024. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER FOR ALEXANDER HILL APPEARED TO HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND >> HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN.

ANY DISCUSSION? >> IF I COULD ASK ABOUT GOING WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD. MS. HILL HAD APPROACHED ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS AND PUT IN FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT BOARDS AND HAS GREAT QUALIFICATION TO SCHOOL-AGE CHILDREN AT THE TIME. SHE HAD BEEN THE ONLY APPLICANT THAT REQUESTED SEVERAL MEETINGS

WE MIGHT PUT GREAT STOCKINETTE. >> OKAY. MELISSA, DO YOU KNOW IF SHE

MADE IT TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION Ã >> NO, SIR.

I DID ATTEND THAT PARTICULAR RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD MEETING, AND ACTUALLY, THERE WERE ONLY TWO APPLICANTS OUT OF ALL THAT ARE HERE THAT ATTENDED AND THAT THE BOARD ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. THAT WAS MR. DAWKINS AND MR.

LONG. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> IS THERE ANYTHING IN ENCOURAGEMENT OR REGULATIONS TO DIVERSIFY THE REPRESENTATIVES AMONG THE DISTRICTS? I DON'T SEE ANYBODY REPRESENTING DISTRICT 2. WE DO HAVE AN APPLICANT FROM DISTRICT TO NONE. MARY HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT 4 AND MORE THAN ONE

FROM DISTRICT 1 AND 5 ON THE BOARD. >> IF I MAY ANSWER THAT QUESTION, COMMISSIONER JOHNS. THERE IS NOT A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT.

HOWEVER, THERE IS A PREFERENCE TO COVER ALL FIVE COUNTY COMMISSION DISTRICTS, AND WHEN WE ADVERTISE THOSE VACANCIES, WE DO NOTE THERE IS A PREFERENCE FOR THOSE DISTRICTS NOT CURRENTLY COVERED. SO WE DID ADVERTISE THIS AS A PREFERENCE FROM DISTRICT TO NONE. SO THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.

IT'S JUST A PREFERENCE. >> THANK YOU, MS. LUNDQUIST. BASED ON THAT, I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD WITH MR. BRADLEY LONG AS AN APPLICANT AND REPRESENTING DISTRICT TO NOT JUST TO ÃAS WELL AS THE CAMP, ENCOURAGE

THAT DIVERSITY. >> ABSOLUTELY. COMMISSIONER WALDRON, DID MR.

LONG COME TO THE MEETING? >> YES. MR. LONG AND MR. DAWKINS.

>> AND I BELIEVE MR. DAWKINS HAS BEEN ATTENDING REGULARLY SINCE THEN AS WELL.

>> WELL WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION PLEASE VOTE. IN THE MOTION FAILS 3 TO 2. SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR

ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE BOARD. >> MR. CHAIR, I WILL RECOMMEND BRADLEY A LONG FOR AN APPOINTMENT TO THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD FOR A FULL

FOUR-YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE ON FEBRUARY 4, 2024. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY

COMMISSIONER JOHN STREET TO HAVE A SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND DIP.

>> BY THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. AND IT PASSES 5 TO 0. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ALONG TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9.

>> BEFORE WE START MAKE A STATEMENT THEN? I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY COMMENT ON THIS PAST ITEM. THAT I JUST WANT TO SAY DEB CHAPMAN ÃWHEN IT COMES TO VOLUNTEER WORK AND COMMUNITY SERVICE, SHE'S REALLY A FORCE OF NATURE TO RECKON WITH.

SHE POPS UP ON MANY ITEMS WHERE SHE'S GIVEN HOURS OF VOLUNTEER TIME.

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WE DON'T GET TO ENGAGE MUCH UNLESS WE ARE IN AN OPEN MEETING, AND SO IT BRINGS ME ON THE PARKS AND RECORD ADVISORY BOARD TO SAY IT REMINDS ME ÃI THINK SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB.

I WANT TO OFFER THAT COMMENT. I'M LOOKING AT THE NEWSLETTER THAT'S BEING PRODUCED AND I'M LOOKING AT THE CONCEPT OF THE PARKS AND RECOMMENDATION RAISED BY THE FUNDS THAT HE JUST SEEMS TO HAVE BROUGHT SOME NEW, GOOD IDEAS AND WORK THAT I'M VERY HAPPY ABOUT.

I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT TO EACH OF YOU. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER

DEAN. COMMISSIONER WALDRON? >> MR. WALDRON: OF WHAT TO KIND OF BRING UP WHAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD I'VE BEEN THE LIAISON FOR THREE YEARS AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THE BOARD REALLY WORKS HARD AND TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO BRINGING THIS STUFF TO THE BOARD, RECOMMENDATIONS, THE INTERVIEW PROCESS WAS GREAT THAT THEY HAD. THEY THAT EVERYTHING THAT GOES BEFORE THE BOARD FOR SPORTS AND GRANTS AND THEY WORK HARD FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND DEBORAH CHAPIN IS ALWAYS ONE WHO WORKS TOWARDS THAT. IT'S HARD TO BE A VOLUNTEER. THEY REALLY WORK HARD.

WE APPRECIATE IT > THANK YOU VERY MUCH >> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9. THIS IS LUNDQUIST?

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THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION LETTER IN YOUR PACKET FROM THE HOUSING AND FINANCE AUTHORITY AND YOU HAVE TWO REAPPOINTMENT REQUESTS. AND THOSE ARE IN THERE ALONG WITH EIGHT NEW APPLICATIONS IN YOUR PACKET. AGAIN, ON THE MOTIONS, THIS WAS GOING TO MOVE OVER TO YOU BACK IN NOVEMBER BUT IT DID NOT SO IF YOU WANT TO NOTE FOR THE TERM EXPIRATION FOR A FOUR-YEAR TERM IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE DATE OF FEBRUARY 4, 2024.

AND THAT'S THE BASICS ON THIS ONE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M

HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. LUNDQUIST?

WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE. PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9. PLEASE COMPORT. MR. CHAIRMAN, NOT SEEING ANYONE COME FORWARD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT

ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9 WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> I FAILED TO MENTION YOU JUST APPOINTED MR. LONG TO THE OTHER BOARD.HE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD.

HIS PACKET IS ALSO IN THIS FOR HFA. HOWEVER, THE DUAL STATUS, THAT TRIGGERS THAT ON THESE TWO BOARDS. SO YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO CONSIDER HIS APPLICATION IN THIS PARTICULAR PACKET. SORRY.

I NEGLECTED TO SAY THE EARLIER >> ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED AND WE

ARE BACK TO THE BOARD. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MR. CHAIR, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT MR. MICHAEL O'DONNELL TO THE HOUSING FINANCE AUTHORITY FOR A

FOUR-YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE NOVEMBER 19, 2023. >> IS IT GOING TO BE NOVEMBER

19, 2023 OR IS IT GOING TO BE FEBRUARY 4, 2024. >> TO BE ACCURATE, IT WOULD BE

FEBRUARY 4, 2024. >> I WILL AMEND THE MOTION TO FEBRUARY 4, 2024.

>> I HAVE A MOTION. DO HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND

>> OF A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. AND IT PASSES 5 TO 0. I WILL ENTERTAIN ANOTHER MOTION TO

FILL A SEAT. >> TO RECOMMEND ROBERT MARSHALL, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE

TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION? >> YES, SIR.>> I WOULD APPRECIATE SOME GUIDANCE ON HOW

TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION >> ON THE PACKET, IF YOU INSISTED THAT RULE 2.203 C LIMITING THE TERMS OF SERVICE TO TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS, IF YOU WILL DO THE FIRST AND THEN MAKE THE MOTION TO REAPPOINT HIM AND THEN WE WOULD NEED YOU TO REINSTATE THAT FOLLOWING THE

APPOINTMENT >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND FORMAL 2.2 03C LIMITING

TERMS OF SERVICE TO TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS >> STILL HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND >> ,MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOHN II BY COMMISSIONER DEAN.

PLEASE VOTE. THE RULE IS SUSPENDED. 5 TO 0.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT MR. ROBERT MARSHALL TO THE HOUSING FINANCE AUTHORITY FOR A

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FOUR-YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE FEBRUARY 4, 2024.>> DO HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND >> AND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOHNS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

IT PASSES 5 TO 0. COMMISSIONER JOHNS? I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO REINSTATE BOARD RULE 2.2 03C ESTABLISHING EXTENT OF TERM LIMITS

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

THE RULE IS REINSTATED. >> MOVING ALONG TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.

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>> I THINK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS GOING TO PRESENT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN

>> BUT YOU HAD SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SAY? >> AS YOU ARE AWARE AT YOUR DIRECTION WE BROUGHT BACK THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT.

WE ALSO CONDUCTED A SPECIAL MEETING TO CONDUCT NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN COMMISSIONER SMITH AND MR. CONRAD AND AT THIS POINT I CAN TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU THE CHAIR TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH. I THINK EVERYONE HAS BEEN PROVIDED WITH A CLEAN COPY AS WELL AS A REDLINE COPY WHICH WAS THE RESULT OF THOSE NEGOTIATIONS.

NOTHING HAS BEEN FINALIZED. THIS IS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION SO IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES IF YOU WOULD LET ME KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE, I CAN INCORPORATE THOSE CHANGES AND MODIFY THE DRAFT AS WE GO. THIS IS FOR YOUR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION.

>> I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WE DID HAVE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE TEMPLATE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US. I GUESS ANY SUBSTANTIAL DEVIATIONS FROM THAT TEMPLATE WERE IN THE FINAL TWO WHEREAS ON TOP OF THE FINAL TWO WHEREAS IT'S AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CONTRACT ARTICLE 3 PARENTHESES 2 WE DISCUSSED PRETTY EXTENSIVELY SOME ÃWE JUST FILLED IN THE BLANK ON ARTICLE 5 PAREN 1. GENERAL BENEFITS, ARTICLE 3 NONE WERE DISCUSSED AND SOME MODIFICATIONS MADE THERE. LIKEWISE, ARTICLE 6, PAREN 1.

WE ELIMINATED A LOT OF THE TEXT AND JUST WENT WITH A MONTHLY ALLOWANCE.

QUITE A BIT OF WORK WAS DONE IN ARTICLE 10 THEM EXPANDING IT TO 6 TO COVER SOME CARRY FORWARD AND ALSO TO COMPLY WITH STATUTE. ARTICLE 12, WE HAD EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION ON ESPECIALLY PAREN 1 AND ADDRESS.SO THERE WOULD NOT BE AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.

AND I THINK ÃIS THERE ANYTHING I'VE MISSED? >> NO, SIR.

I THINK YOU'VE GOT IT ALL COVERED. >> DOES JUST WEAR MY RED INK WAS. MR. CONRAD, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ANY CONCERNS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDED OR SUBTRACTED OR DELETED FROM THIS CONTRACT AND THE NEGOTIATIONS WE CAME UP

WITH? >> NO, SIR. I'M SATISFIED WITH THE

NEGOTIATIONS AND THE AGREEMENT AS I SIT HERE TODAY. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY PROFITABLE TIME AND VERY EASY. I FEEL LIKE WE GOT A LOT ACCOMPLISHED IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU >> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD?

>> COMMISSIONER BUTLER? >> WHEN I LOOKED OVER THIS I DIDN'T SEE THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO ADD THE SPENDABLE SUPERVISION FOR ANY MILITARY LEAVE MY

UNDERSTANDING IS ÃARE YOU AN OFFICER?>> YES. AND THERE IS A PROVISION IN THERE. IF YOU WILL ÃLET'S SEE HERE. REGINA, DO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT IS? THERE IS A PROVISION THAT STATES IT WILL CONFLICT WITH ANY MILITARY OR OTHER CIVILIAN RIGHTS. IT'S MENTIONED IN THERE

BRIEFLY. >> AND CAN YOU BRIEFLY JUST EXPLAIN TO US WHAT YOUR

COMMITMENT IS AT THIS POINT AS FAR AS TRAINING PERIODS >> CURRENTLY IDLE HAVE AN ANNUAL TOUR IS UNABLE TO BE BROKEN UP I DO THAT TYPICALLY IN JULY AND THEN I ALSO HAVE TO SERVE ANOTHER 12 DAYS THAT EITHER CAN BE BROKEN UP OR PUT TOGETHER WERE INCLUDED WITH THE OTHER 12 DAYS AS OF NOW, OBVIOUSLY WOULD PROVIDE THE BOARD NOTICE.

IT'S NOT SCHEDULED ON THE CALENDAR BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT A DATE IN MAY THE OTHER 12 DAYS

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CERTAINLY THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE YEARS THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL TRAINING AS YOU ARE

FAMILIAR WITH BUT FOR THIS YEAR IS A 24 DAY COMMITMENT >> JUST TO MAKE SURE I CAN UNDERSTAND IF YOU CAN ENLIGHTEN THE BOARD YOUR ROLE AT THIS POINT IS THIS IS AN ADVOCATE

>> THAT'S GREAT >> AND THAT INVOLVES DIFFERENT >> BASICALLY YOU ADVISE COMMUTERS ON DIFFERENT LEGAL ISSUES AND LEGAL MATTERS. YOU ARE NOT IN A STATUS AT THIS

POINT.WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT YOU RIGHT NOW. >> YES SIR.

I THINK WE ARE ALWAYS HAVE POLITICAL STATUS BUT NO. I HAVE NOT SUBMITTED ANY WORK FOR VOLUNTARY OR INVOLUNTARY DEPLOYMENT. THERE ARE NO DEPLOYMENTS ON THE

HORIZON >> JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR YOU'RE NOT A PILOT YOU ARE NOT A COMBAT SERVICEMEMBER. YOUR SERVING IN A LEGAL CAPACITY.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THANK YOU. >> I WANT TO CLARIFY AND I SHOULD'VE BEEN ABLE ÃARTICLE 2 PAREN TWO LAST SENTENCE NOTHING CONTAINED IN THIS AGREEMENT SHALL BE CONSTRUED TO INTERFERE WITH OR TO LIMIT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S MILITARY LEAVE

VERSUS CIVILIAN EMPLOYMENT RIGHTS AS PROVIDED. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU MR. JARED. >> I DID WANT TO INTERJECT AT THIS POINT THAT ON THE ÃPOSTED ON THE THERE IS THE REDLINE COPY THEY WANTED TO SORT OF FOLLOW ONLINE THAT HAD BEEN POSTED PREVIOUSLY ONLINE TO THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU

>> AND I APPRECIATE. I MEANT TO SAY THAT THAT THERE IS PROVISIONS MADE BECAUSE THOSE NEGOTIATIONS WERE DONE FRIDAY THAT ÃAND I APPRECIATE ÃI WAT TO COMPLEMENT GETTING THIS DONE. IT WAS DONE ON THURSDAY. IT WAS EXPEDITIOUSLY PROVIDED FOR FRIDAY. APPRECIATE THE HELP AND ASSISTANCE TO GET READY FOR THE

PUBLIC AS WELL. ANY DISCUSSION? >> SEEING NONE WE WILL OPEN IT

UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT >> THANK YOU, SIR. AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 THEM. PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM

NUMBER 10. SIR, PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE MY PREVIOUS STATEMENT FOR THE RECORD AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF SUPPORTING MR. CONRAD. I BELIEVE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB TRYING TO FIND AND THAT A CANDIDATE, BUT MR. CONRAD BEING IN OUR BACKYARD IS A STRATEGIC ADVANTAGE TO THE COUNTY INTO THE RESIDENCE OF THIS ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND I SUPPORT HIM.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 THEM? PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 THEM PLEASE COME FORWARD. MR. CHAIRMAN, NOT SEEING ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO NUMBER WE WERE CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED. WHAT'S MR. CHAIR, I DID WANT TO SAY THE BOARD HAD HEARD SOME PUBLIC COMMENT OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING. I WAS RELUCTANT TO INTERJECT AT THAT TIME, BT I WANTED TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS. WHEN THE BOARD HAD MADE ITS EARLIER DECISION TO SELECT MR. CONRAD AS ITS PROPOSED PERMANENT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, THE COUNTY ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, THE APPLICABLE SECTION, WAS READ OUT. MR. CONRAD'S EXPERIENCE WAS SORT OF OVERLAID ON TOP OF THAT FOR EACH OF THE REQUIREMENTS. I DID WANT TO JUST MAKE THAT POINT, BUT THOSE CRITERIA AND A DESCRIPTION OF THE EXPERIENCE YOU KNOW, HAD BEEN DESCRIBED TO AND CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD.

HANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

ALL RIGHT. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I WILL MOVE.

MOTION TO APPROVE AND THE CONDITIONS OF THE PROPOSED SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH HUNTER

S. CONRAD AND AUTHORIZE THE >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONE BLOCKER. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

AGENDA ITEM PASSES 5 TO 0. THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA FOR TODAY. OUR APPROVED AGENDA AND WE WILL

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STAGNANT. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> THANK YOU, SIR.

THE ONLY COMMENTS I HAVE TODAY JUST BRIEFLY, I LEARNED WITH GREAT SADNESS THE PASSING OF KEITH GREEN YESTERDAY. I THINK HE HAD A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON THE FIELD OF DREAMS

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HARD FOR THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMISSIONER WALDRON? >> MR. WALDRON: FIRST OF ALL, KIND OF ON THAT SAME NOTE, A SOLEMN NOTE, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE MY CONDOLENCES TO OUR FIREFIGHTER FAMILY AND OUR FAMILY OF LIEUTENANT MIKE HIERS WHO LOST HIS BATTLE WITH CANCER AND FUNERAL SERVICES WERE TODAY AT 11:00 AND SOME OF US WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ATTEND BUT COULDN'T BE THERE TO PAY OUR RESPECTS. AND JUST KEEP HIM IN OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS AND REALLY ALL OF OUR FIREMEN AND FIRST RESPONDERS IN THE COUNTY. ON SOME OF THE OTHER NOTES, I WOULD LIKE TO ÃWE HAVE ÃI ALWAYS GET INVITED TO WHAT THEY CALL HARBOR SAFETY MEETING AND WE DISCUSSED INSTANCES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WHERE WE HAVE NO EXAMS THAT MAY BE COUNTY ORIENTED, JUST REALLY HARBOR SAFETY AND BOATING SAFETY.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE AND WITH FWC WOULD LIKE TO SEE US EXPAND THE NO WAKE ZONE NEAR THE FORT DOWN BY THE INLET.

THIS WOULD ÃIT'S BECOME MORE OF KIND OF LIKE A FISH ISLAND HEAD.

THERE'S MORE BOATERS THERE, SEE DUES AS WE BECOME OF A MORE DANGEROUS SITUATION.

WE HAVE BOATS CROSSING AND THAT'S A NO WAKE AREA. SO THEY HAVE MADE THAT REQUEST AND THEY'VE ALSO MADE REQUESTS THAT MAYBE WE COULD EXPEDITE NOT HAVE THE TWO HEARINGS POSSIBLE TAKE THE ORDINANCE AND JUST TAKING THE LOCATIONS I AND THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.

AS OF THIS MORNING THEY SAID THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO HLP WITH THE COST OF MOVING THE SIGNS. JUST WANTED TO SEE JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT THE BOARD WANTED TO DO

WITH THAT. >> ANY COMMENTS? >> SOUNDS GOOD.

>> ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? >> I WOULD ENCOURAGE FEEDBACK FROM THE BOATING COMMUNITY, JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT AND OFFER THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FEEDBACK.

IT MAKES SENSE, I WOULD SAY, BUT I WANT THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW ABOUT AS WELL

>> THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD. THEY WOULD TRY TO GET IT DONE BY SUMMER FOR GOOD BUT IT REALLY GETS CRAZY IN HERE. I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET SOME FEEDBACK.

IT IS A CHANGE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOWN THERE.

IT COULD BE CROWDED, FOR SURE. >> WHAT'S THE BOARD'S PREFERENCE IN REGARD TO PROCEDURE WITH A REQUEST TO NOT GO THROUGH TWO HEARINGS, BUT TO ME EXPEDITE-

>> I THINK I WILL WAIVE THAT >> WAY TO DO IT IN A TIMELY FASHION, SURE.

>> JUST TO DISCUSS WHAT THAT PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE, THE COUNTY COMMISSION CAN HEAR THE ORDINANCE, PASSED THE ORDINANCE BUT UNDER FLORIDA STATUTES, BEFORE THE ORDINANCE CAN BECOME EFFECTIVE, IT HAS TO GO TO FWC, AND THEY HAVE TO APPROVE IT. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WAIVING THE TWO HEARING REQUIREMENT, BECAUSE IT ISN'T LIKE OUR ORDINARY ORDINANCE IS WHERE IT BECOMES EFFECTIVE UPON BEING FILED WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE. IT ALSO HAS TO GO TO ÃTHROUGH FWC'S PROCESSES AS WELL.

AND BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THERE IS SOME CONCERN ABOUT GETTING THIS AFFECTED BY SUMMER FOR THE HEAVY BOATING SEASON, IT IS ONE WAY THAT WE CAN EXPEDITE THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT ON OUR END. HOWEVER, I ALSO UNDERSTAND WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LOCAL BOATING COMMUNITY IS INVOLVED WITH THE PROCESS. SO REALLY, IT'S A JUDGMENT CALL ON THE PART OF THE BOARD AND THAT WAS JUST ONE SUGGESTION TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID IS THERE ANY PLEASURE FROM THE BOARD, ANY PREFERENCE? I WOULDN'T MIND WAVING IT IF FWC HAS A FURTHER VETTING PROCESS THAT ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TIME FOR INPUT AND THAT THEY

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BOARD? >> I WOULD SAY THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE BEFORE

ONE OF THE MARCH MEETINGS >> VERY GOOD. DOES THE BOARD HAVE CONSENSUS

TO MOVE THIS FORWARD? >> YES. WE COULD EVEN IF IT CAME BACK IF WE GET ENOUGH FEEDBACK ON THE NEGATIVE AND CHANGE OUR MIND WE COULD REMOVE THE ORDINANCE ONCE WE HEAR BACK FROM THE FWC. THAT WOULD BE FINE.

>> OKAY. CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD? ALL RIGHT.

DO WE NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? >> IT WOULD BE ADVISABLE JUST

AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION. >> AT THIS TIME YOU WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.

PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA? MR. CHAIRMAN, NOT SEEING ANYONE COMING FORWARD, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. NYTHING ELSE? >> MR. WALDRON: AT OUR LAST BOARD MEETING WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT TRAFFIC AND THE OVERPASS AT PALM COAST PARKWAY AND IT CAME UP IN THE DISTANCE. NOW, I DID ÃLIKE I SAID IN THAT MEETING, I WENT DOWN AND I'VE READ IT THREE DIFFERENT TIMES.

I'VE GOT 3.5 AND 3.6 AND 3.5. NOW, MY ODOMETER COULD BE WRONG ON MY TRUCK, BUT I'M THINKING IT'S RIGHT. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THAT WAS DONE FOR SAFETY, HAVING THIS THING. SO I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE LOOK BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DO BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO PUSH THROUGH OUR LOBBYISTS TO TRY TO GET IN OVERPASS AND IF WE ARE GOING TO REDO THE OVERPASS AT RACETRACK ROAD ON RACETRACK ROAD I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US TRY TO GET AN EXIT AT THAT LOCATION. I THINK WE OWE IT TO THE RESIDENTS UP THERE TO WORK ON THAT AND IT WOULD BE A SAFETY ISSUE.E HAVE A LOT MORE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN THE AREA THAN THEY HAVE IN THE PALM COAST.

AND ÃJUST TO ÃTO HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR STATEMENT, DO YOU WANT TO BE Ã YOU SAID EXIT. DOES THAT EXIT ONLY OR FULL INTERCHANGE

>> LIKE TO SEE A FULL INTERCHANGE IF WE HAVE THE ROOM.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE Ã IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A FEDERAL ASK, BUT I THINK ÃTHE DISCUSSION WE HAD LAST MEETING WAS SHUT DOWN PRETTY QUICK ON THIS DECISION BUT I WANTED TO

BRING IT BACK UP TODAY >> AND THAT DISCUSSION WAS >> WE WERE TOLD THAT IT WAS Ã IT HAD TO BE WITHIN FIVE MILES FROM THAT ONE DOWN THERE WAS FIVE MILES BUT IS NOT

>> IF I REMEMBER QUICKLY AND I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO LOOK BACK IN THE ARTICLES BUT THE PROCESS DOWN THERE WAS PUSHED STRONGLY FOR SAFETY FOR FIRE AND HURRICANE EVACUATION.

>> ANY FROM THE BOARD? ANY COMMENTS? SQUADS I STRONGLY SUPPORT THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> I AGREE >> ANY INPUT?

>> TOTALLY AGREE. CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD TO PUSH FOR THE FEDERAL LOBBYING FOR A FULL INTERCHANGE OF RACETRACK ROAD. ANY DISCUSSION?

PUBLIC COMMENT? >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON A NON-AGENDA ITEM THAT WAS JUST RAISED YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS NON-AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE COME

FORWARD. >> NOT SEEING ANYONE COME FORWARD WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. WITH PUBLIC COMMENT NOW CLOSE

BACK TO THE BOARD WITH ANYTHING ELSE? >> I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY

ENOUGH. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. LEASE TO SEE IN OUR CONSENT AGENDA BUT ALMOST $10,000 WAS DONATED TO OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM TO SUPPORTERS OF OUR LIBRARIES AND WANTED TO GET THAT SHOT UP. THIS IS THE FUN PART OF THE JOB.

I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU TO SEE PEOPLE MATERIALLY MONETARILY SUPPORTING OUR LIBRARIES NOT JUST ATTENDING AND PARTICIPATING IN THE BUTT GIVING BACK TO THE LIBRARIES AS WELL. I WANT TO THINK ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY THAT HAD A PART TO PLAY IN THAT IT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THAT. I COULD GO ON WITH OTHERS BUT I WILL STOP AT THAT POINT.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> I HAD ONE MORE THING. SATURDAY COMMISSIONER JONES BOTH ATTENDED THE OPENING OF THE FIELD OF DREAMS PLAY. IF YOU CAN GO THERE, GO CHECK IT OUT. IT WAS FANTASTIC. THE KIDS HAD A GREAT TIME AND THERE WAS HELPERS REACHED, CHILD'S PLAYING AND THEY WERE FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND I WANTED TO THINK THEIR SOFTBALL TEAM AND THE BASEBALL TEAM FOR BEING OUT THERE.

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SOME OF THEM HAD TO BE CHASED AND BROUGHT BACK AND THEY MIGHT BE SITTING THERE BUT THEY HAD A WONDERFUL TIME THERE AND EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY. I REALLY THINK THEY SAID THEY WERE UP TO 14 TEAMS NOW. THEY WERE 14 PLAYING ON THAT FIELD.

AND I KNEW THE COUNTY WE HAD TO REDO THE FIELD BUT IT SHOWED IT'S IMPORTANT.

IT WAS PROBABLY EXPANDING TO ANOTHER ONE >> CLOSE TO 200 BALLPLAYERS.

>> I HAD NO IDEA IT WAS THAT BIG. JOY HAD TALKED ABOUT IT

>> SHE WAS THERE >> IT WAS TREMENDOUS TESTIMONY TO IT AS WELL.

I JUST HAD NO IDEA. >> IT WAS TREMENDOUSLY A GREAT TIME.

>> EVERY SATURDAY FOR THE NEXT SEVEN WEEKS. >> THAT'S EXCITING.

THANK YOU ALL. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> MR. DEAN: A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK OUR CHAIRMAN FOR TAKING ON YET AN ADDITIONAL TASK AND DID IT WILL, NEGOTIATING THE CONTRACT WITH OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. I KNOW THAT TOOK SOME TIME AND YOU DID NOT PROBABLY CALCULATED IN YOUR WEEKLY SCHEDULE WHEN IT CAME UP. BUT THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR EFFORTS. I ATTENDED LAST WEDNESDAY LEGISLATIVE DAY OF AC LEGISLATIVE DAY ON BEHALF OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND I HAD A VERY BRIEF BUT GOOD HELLO WITH THE GOVERNOR AND ALSO ASHLEY MOODY OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER AGENCY SECRETARIES AND JUST BY COINCIDENCE-I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT-BUT BY COINCIDENCE BUT SAME MOURNING THE SENATE NATIONAL RESOURCES COMMUNITY, SENATOR DEBBIE MAYFIELD UNANIMOUSLY PASSED THE $50 MILLION A YEAR RECURRING FUNDING FOR B-TREE NOURISHMENT.

RECURRING, NOT JUST A ONE TIME THIS YEAR. THOSE OF US INVOLVED IN THIS FIELD AFTER THAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND THEN SO THIS WAS PRETTY EXCITING JUST TO GET BY COINCIDENCE THAT REALLY GUARANTEES BASICALLY FUNDING FOR NOT ONLY ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH BUT SOUTH PONTE VEDRE TO VILANO BEACH PROJECT AND POSSIBLY ANYTHING WE MIGHT DO IN THE FUTURE, I ALSO HEARD THAT BECAUSE OF THE COMMITMENT WE MADE OF $3 MILLION OR PONTE VEDRE BEACH, THERE ARE SOME POSITIVE MOVEMENTS IN THE SENATE TO MAX THAT OR IF NOT MATCH IT PROVIDE SOME PORTION. THAT'S STILL ÃTHAT GAME IS STILL IN PLAY.

BUT THE $50 MILLION A YEAR RECURRING IS A BIG DEAL FOR US, FOR OUR COUNTY AND OUR

BEACHFRONT HOMEOWNERS AND BUSINESSES. >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT AND THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING US THERE.

NOW TO MY REPORT, JUST SOME SIMPLE REMINDERS OF AGRICULTURE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

POTATO PLANTING IS IN CONTINUED AND FULL SWING CABBAGE POINTING SHOULD FINISH THIS WEEK.

ARVEST CONTINUES WERE BROCCOLI, KALE, TURNIPS, COLLARDS, MUSTARD, CABBAGE, CAULIFLOWER AND MANY OTHER CROPS. JUST ÃCATTLE PRICES ARE AT A THREE YEAR HIGH AND HOLY AND I THINK THAT'S AN EXCITING THING. TOMORROW, FEBRUARY 5 AT 9:00 AT THE HASTINGS AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH CENTER, THERE WILL BE AN INTERVIEW OF CANDIDATES FOR HASTINGS RESEARCH DEVELOPER THAT WILL BE REPLACING MR. GARY ENGLAND AND TWO CANDIDATES WILL BE PRESENTED AND VERY IMPORTANT TO THE TRI-COUNTY AGRICULTURE AREA PRODUCERS TO EACH OF THOSE MEMBERS'S COUNTIES. JUST GOING TO THROW IN HERE, DID YOU KNOW CATTLE WERE FIRST INTRODUCED INTO FLORIDA BY PONCE DE LEON IN 1521? ALMOST 500 YEARS AGO.

AT FIVE OUT OF THE 10 LARGEST OPERATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES ARE IN FLORIDA? THEY SAY THAT THAT NUMBER IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO 7 TO 10 IF THERE WAS A PROPER REPORTING OF THE NUMBER OF HEAD THAT A COUPLE OF FAMILIES WOULD LIKE TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS ON SOME OF THEIR HERD SIZE. I JUST WANT TO SAY OUR POPULATION IS GROWING AND OUR AQUACULTURE IS STILL STRONG. JUST A WARNING PLEASE BE CAREFUL.

OUR FARMERS USED ROADS TO TRANSPORT PRODUCTS TO FEED OUR FAMILIES.

BE PATIENT AND CAUTIOUS IF YOU ARE IN ALTON AND HASTINGS. I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT IT. I JUST WANT TO SAY I LIKE THESE LIGHTS.

IT'S AMAZING IN THIS ROOM WITH GOD HAS DONE. I DO NOT HAVE A HEADACHE TODAY.

I DO NOT HAVE SOMETHING FLASHING RIGHT IN MY EYES. I DID NOT REALIZE IT WAS SUCH A

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IT'S PHENOMENAL. I CAN SEE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU

FOR TURNING THEM ON. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> MR. BLOCKER: I WANT TO COMMEND MR. CONRAD. I HAVE NO IDEA THESE LIGHTS WERE HERE.

I WOULD HAVE HEADACHES FROM FLUORESCENT LIGHTS FROM EVERY MEETING WHICH MAKES IT BOTH DIFFICULT TO FOCUS. I GUESS WE'VE HAD THEM FOR SOME TIME NOW.

HOW DID YOU DISCOVER THESE LIGHTS? >> I CAN'T TAKE THE CREDIT.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MICHAEL RYAN AND HIS TEAM AND TOM IN THE BACK.

YOU WILL SEE THEM IN HERE BECAUSE HE'S BACK RUNNING THE T.V. NOW BUT BETWEEN THEM A FEW YEARS AGO THEY GOT THESE INSTALLED AND IT WAS SOMETHING THEY'VE DONE PRIOR TO ME BEING HERE. ALL CREDIT GOES TO MICHAEL AND TOM IN THE BACK TO HELP

COORDINATE THIS. >> VERY GOOD JOB.T'S OUTSTANDING AND THERE'S CLARITY AND LIGHTING AND HOPEFULLY THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE CAN SEE BETTER AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I HADN'T CONSUMED AS MUCH ADVIL TODAY AS I HAVE IN THE PAST. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. VERY ENLIGHTENING REPORTS

TODAY. ADMINISTRATION? >> JUST A FEW THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, IF I COULD TAKE JUST A MINUTE TO TELL EACH OF YOU AND GET AN OPPORTUNITY -I GET TO SEE ALL OF YOU EVERY WEEK AND OFTEN TIMES SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK BUT PUBLICLY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK FOR YOU AS WE WORK TOGETHER TO SERVE ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

I CONSIDER IT A GREAT PRIVILEGE WITH A HIGH CALLING AND I HOPE TO TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY AND BE A BOOKS STEWARD OF THE TRUST THAT THE FIVE OF YOU HAVE PLACED IN ME AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE GREATER ST. JOHNS COMMUNITY. THIS IS MY HOME.

I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE BUT I WANT TO SAY IT ONE MORE TIME. THIS IS HOME TO ME AS I KNOW IT'S HOME TO YOU ALL. I LOVE ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND I HOPE THAT WITH THE LEADERSHIP THAT THE FIVE OF YOU ARE PROVIDING AND AS WE CARRY THE POLICY DIRECTION OUT Ã DIRECTIVE APP THAT WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE ST. JOHNS COUNTY THE GREATEST PLACE IN THE UNITED STATES TO LIVE. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADD ONE THING TO BACK IN MY THANKS IS IN THIS FIRST 45 Ã65 DAYS HAS BEEN A GREAT PRIVILEGE TO WORK WITH THE STAFF.

I HEAR MANY OF YOU MENTIONED FROM TIME TO TIME, I HAVE BEEN OVERWHELMED WITH THE PROFESSIONALISM, DEDICATION, AND THE WORK ETHIC OF MANY OF THE STAFF I'VE INTERACTED WITH.

SO WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING TO IMPROVE AND WILL CONTINUE TO PROVE.

WE DON'T REST ON OUR MORALS BUT I'M APPRECIATIVE FOR THE EFFORTS STAFF HAS PLACED THUS FAR IN HELPING MY TRANSITION HERE DURING INTERIM AND NOW TO PERMIT IT.

I WENT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO THANK YOU ALL AND TO THANK THEM AND HOPEFULLY CONTINUE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY WELL. COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.

WE BROUGHT UP THE BICENTENNIAL REPORT. WE WILL GIVE YOU A FULL BRIEFING ON THAT AT THE MARCH 3 MEETING. JUST A FEW THINGS TO MENTION TO YOU KNOW THERE'S PROGRESS BEING MADE. THIS WAS BROUGHT UP IN ADMINISTRATOR COMMENTS LAST TIME. STAFF WORK COMMITTEE HAS BEEN FORMED AND WE WILL BRING BACK A LIST OF OPTIONS ON 3 MARCH. THE OPTIONS ARE OUTLINED BASED ON LEVELS OF COST SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON. WE HAVE TAKEN EXAMPLES I UNDERSTAND FROM 19 OTHER COUNTIES. THAT WILL BE PRESENTED, OBVIOUSLY, THEY ARE NOT A BICENTENNIAL PRESENTATION AS WE ARE THE FIRST ONES TO DO THIS OTHER THAN ESCAMBIA. WE WILL LOOK AT ANOTHER 15 TO 20 COUNTIES HAVE DONE FOR SOME TYPE OF CELEBRATION TO GIVE YOU ALL PLENTY OF OPTIONS. AND ANOTHER TIME, WE WILL PROPOSE POTENTIAL COMMUNITY SURVEY TO BE CONDUCTED WITH YOUR DIRECTION.

SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT. QUICKLY, COMMISSIONER JOHNS, AN UPDATE ON THE SEBASTIAN COVE, THEY ARE A REGISTERED ORGANIZATION WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD BILL OF RIGHTS. THEY HAVE A REGISTERED AGENT. SO THROUGH THAT AGENT, THEY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED NOTICE. WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT AGENT AND INTERACTING WITH THE COMMUNITY CERTAINLY COULD NOT SPEAK TO BUT THEY ARE REGISTERED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BILL OF RIGHTS. ADDITIONALLY, LAST TIME, THERE WAS MENTION ABOUT THE BOOK NOT BEING IN THE FOYER. WE DID PUT THAT BACK IN THERE AND WE WORK WITH MINUTES AND RECORDS AND THE CLERK STAFF TO FACILITATE THAT. THERE WERE MORE THAN WILLING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT REQUEST. SO THAT'S BACK IN THERE AS WELL.

AND I THINK THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT FOR TODAY. >> THANK YOU, MR. CONRAD.

COUNTY ATTORNEY? >> MR. CHAIR, COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, I HOPE THE STATUS OF NEW HEADACHES DURING THE MEETINGS CONTINUES FOR FUTURE MEETINGS.

AND I WILL REMIND THE BOARD THAT DURING THE INAUGURAL 2020 BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETINGS, I DID NOT HAVE A REPORT SO I WILL ASK YOU TO FORGIVE ME BECAUSE I HAVE A FEW ITEMS TO GO OVER WITH YOU TODAY. THE FIRST IS THE CANVASSING BOARD.AS THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS KNOWS, THE PRESIPRESIDENTIAL PREFERENCE PRIMARY IS UP ON MARCH 17TH. IN ADDITION WITH THE ST.

AUGUSTINE SPECIAL ELECTION. AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAS THE DUTY TO

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SO GIVEN THAT, THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO SERVE ON THE CANVASSING BOARD. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE MAY BE AT LEAST ONE MEMBER OF THE BOARD THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER AND I HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS FOR THIS. AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER BLOCKER WOULD BE AN ELIGIBLE CANDIDATE. IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ELIGIBLE CANDIDATES, I THINK THIS IS THE TIME TO SAY SO. BECAUSE IF THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS UNABLE TO SERVE BECAUSE OF THE FACTORS I HAVE MENTIONED, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS SHALL APPOINT A SUBSTITUTE NUMBER, ONE OF ITS MEMBERS WHO IS NOT A CANDIDATE WITH OPPOSITION IN THE ELECTION BEING CANVASSED AND IS NOT AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT. SO I WOULD JUST PROFFER THAT TO THE BOARD, AND I WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD AND PARTICULARLY MR. BLOCKER CONFIRMED THAT HE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE, AND IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ELIGIBLE MEMBERS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> MR. BLOCKER: JUST TO CLARIFY

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY. >> JESSE MARCH 17 PRESIDENTIAL PREFERENCE PRIMARY. IN ADDITION AT THE SAME TIME I THINK THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE IS HAVING A SPECIAL ELECTION WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WOULD BEANY TYPE OF ACTIVE PARTICIPANT FOR THAT. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL PRIMARY AND NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION LATER IN THE

YEAR. >> OKAY. I MOVE TO A POINT COMMISSIONER BLOCKER JUDY CANVASSING BOARD. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH AND A SECOND BUT

COMMISSIONER JOHNS. ANY COMMENT? >> WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? MR. CHAIRMAN, NOT SEEING ANY PUBLIC COMMENT WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT X ALL IN FAVOR. >> MOTION CARRIES >> UNLESS THERE IS ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED ELIGIBLE, THEN I WOULD SIGNAL TO THE CHIEF JUDGE TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT FOR AN ALTERNATE FOR THAT MARCH 17 ELECTION.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THANK YOU. >> MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP THE TOPIC OF THE COMMISSIONER WALDRON BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE INSURANCE COMMITTEE AND APPOINTED BOARD MEMBER BEING A VOTING COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE DONE SOME HOMEWORK ON THAT. MISS LEVEE IS HERE AND PROBABLY KNOWS THE HISTORY BETTER THAN I DO. BACK IN THE DAY THE COMMISSIONER REPRESENTATIVE HAD BEEN

>> RESEARCH TO BE A VOTING MEMBER ON THAT AND WE DO NOT SEE THAT

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>> COMMENT? >> MR. SHARE, IF I MAY. WE CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT TO TRY TO OBSTRUCT, BY ANY MEANS. WE DON'T HAVE A STAKE IN WHAT THE BOARD DECIDES AND I DO NOT WANT TO CONFLICT WITH THE CURRENT -- ATTORNEY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE BYLAWS CANNOT BE AMENDED BY THE BOARD. THEY MUST BE AMENDED BY THE INSURANCE COMMITTEE. SO, IN ORDER FOR A BOARD MEMBER TO BE BACK ON FOR THE BOARD IT HAS TO GO TO THE INSURANCE COMMITTEE AGAIN. I COULD BE MISTAKEN BUT WILL RELY ON THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BUT WHEN THE BYLAWS WERE CHANGED, IT REQUIRES A CHANGE IN THE BYLAWS AND COMMITTEE AGAIN. I WANT TO CLARIFY MR. MCCORMICK IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER ON THAT?

>> WE'VE DONE THE RESEARCH ON THAT. I THINK THE TOPIC WOULD GO THROUGH THE INSURANCE COMMITTEE, BUT ULTIMATELY, THE BYLAWS ARE ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THE RESOLUTION. MS. LEAVY DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT ON THAT? OKAY.

WE WILL DOUBLE CHECK THAT, THANK YOU, MR. CONRAD. BUT OUR SENSE IS THAT THE TOPIC IS RAISED AND DISCUSSED AT THE INSURANCE COMMITTEE, BUT THE BYLAWS WOULD BE ADOPTED AND ACTUALLY FORMALLY REVISED THROUGH RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD. IF THERE IS ANY DIFFERENCE TO THAT, OF COURSE, WE WILL REPORT BACK.

IF THERE IS A CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD FOR US TO PROCEED IN THAT DIRECTION, WE WILL SO PROCEED.

>> MR. WALDRON, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT I THOUGHT YOU SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THE INSURANCE COMMITTEE BUT I ALSO THINK YOU SAID MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT ADVISORY BOARDS AND WHERE WE MIGHT WANT TO VOTE. DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT?

>> I THINK LONG-TERM OUTLOOK AT ALL THE BOARDS BUT I TRIED TO ATTEND EVERY MEETING. WE JUST GOT A GOAL THAT YOU'RE SITTING HERE LISTENING BUT YOU DON'T GET TO VOTE.

>> WE CAN SHARE SOME OF THAT AS WE SIT HERE DISCUSSING THIS THIS AFTERNOON, THOUGH, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE PROBABLY, EACH OF US PROBABLY SERVE ON 56 OR SEVEN BOARDS.

SO LET'S -- THERE WERE 40 DIFFERENT DECISIONS TO BE MADE. I WOULD SUGGEST WE ASK THE STAFF, WHAT WE REALLY MIGHT NEED IS A MATRIX OF OUR PREFERENCES FOR EACH OF THE COMMITTEES WE SERVE, WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO BE A VOTING MEMBER OR NOT. I CAN SAY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED OR WANT TO BE A VOTING MEMBER. BUT THERE MAY BE OTHERS AS MEMBERS WANT TO ACT LIKE PAUL, I THINK YOU DO VOTE ON THE TDC.

>> YES. >> THERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY ABOUT. I VOTE ON THE FACT OBVIOUSLY, FOR REASONS ON THE TRUSTEE, BUT THERE ARE OTHERS LIKE THE AIRPORT AUTHORITY, NOT ONLY DO I NOT WANT TO I CAN'T.

>> I THINK THAT COULD BE THE CASE WITH A LOT OF BOARDS. THE QUESTION I HAVE WITH THE INSURANCE COMMITTEE WAS IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, EVERYBODY ELSE THERE IS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

WE ARE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL BUT WE ARE NOT GETTING TO VOTE. OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE FINAL SAY SO BUT YOU KNOW, THEN YOU GET BACK TO THE PREFERENCE, TOO, AWAY A LOT OF THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS WHICH WE ARE SET UP, THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM INSURANCE INCREASES, BUT WE ARE NOT. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT'S KIND OF, TO ME, LITTLE BIT -- I TRUST WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE -- WHOEVER WE HAVE ON THE BOARD IN THE FUTURE COULD HAVE A SAY SO. BECAUSE WE REPRESENT OUR EMPLOYEES ON MOST BOARDS BUT THERE ARE -- FOR THE PUBLIC, IT DOESN'T MATTER. WE JUST MADE THIS CHANGE RECENTLY OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS

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>> THANK YOU. LEGAL? YES, COMMISSIONERS. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THE BOARDS WITH RESPECT TO THE ROLE THAT THE COMMISSION LIAISON. I JUST WANTED TO SAY WELL WE HAVE TAKEN A CLOSE LOOK AT THE INSURANCE COMMITTEE TO ENSURE THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY DUAL OFFICE HOLDING ISSUES WITH HAVING THE COMMISSIONER BE A VOTING THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE IN ALL OF OUR COMMITTEES. EACH OF THEM WILL NEED TO BE LOOKED AT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT ANYTHING ON MY COMMITTEES.

>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO DO THE INSURANCE COMMITTEE NOW AND WHEN THE OTHER COMMISSIONER HAS THE OTHER ONE THEY CAN BRING IT UP. DO WE NEED DIRECTION, THEN? FOR LEGAL TO MOVE FORWARD FOR THIS? WAS THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD?

>> I WOULD SAY WE JUST GO WITH (LOW VOICE) (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS NON-AGENDA ITEM. AT THIS TIME WE HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD. NOT SEEING PUBLIC COMMENT WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME. >> THANK YOU, MR. SHARE. I THINK THE PRECEDING MEETINGS, THINK COMMISSIONER BLOCKER HAD BROUGHT UP THE TOPIC OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING. THERE WAS A PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF THE BOARD AND THE POSSIBILITY OF A COUNTY ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO THE ISSUE. WE DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THAT. THE TOPIC HAD COME TO THE BOARD IN THE 2017 TIME PERIOD. ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME, DID NOT DIRECT AND ORDINANCE TO BE IMPLEMENTED PERTAINING TO THAT. LAST YEAR, ACTUALLY, AT THE FIRST MEETING, IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR, THE BOARD ISSUED A PROCLAMATION BUT AT THAT TIME, THEY DID NOT PROVIDE DIRECTION TO DEVELOP AN ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO IT. THERE IS A SECTION IN THE FLORIDA STATUTE SEVEN-87.29, IT REQUIRES EMPLOYERS OF THE FOLLOWING ESTABLISHMENTS TO DISPLAY PUBLIC AWARENESS SIGNS IN CONSPICUOUS LOCATIONS. STRIP CLUBS OR OTHER ADULT ENTERTAINMENT ESTABLISHMENTS AND BUSINESSES THAT OFFER MASSAGE YOUR BODY SERVICES FOR COMPENSATION THAT ARE NOT OWNED BY HEALTHCARE PRACTITIONER. FURTHERMORE, COUNTIES MAY ADOPT ORDINANCES TO ENFORCE THE STATUTE. MY UNDERSTANDING -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THERE'S ALREADY A STATE CONSEQUENCE FOR THAT, CORRECT? AND THEN THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A COUNTY ORDINANCE TO HAVE A COUNTY ENFORCEMENT OF THAT?

>> YES. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THE COUNTY -- IT WOULD PROVIDE THE COUNTIES THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENFORCE STATE LAW WITH PENALTIES BEING LIMITED TO A FIRE OF $500.

>> SO MR. CHAIR, AND COMMISSIONERS, OBVIOUSLY HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. THE BOARD COULD GIVE DIRECTION AT THIS TIME FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO DEVELOP SUCH AN ORDINANCE. OR I THINK, AS AN ALTERNATIVE, IF THE BOARD WOULD DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO SEE WHAT OPTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE ITSELF THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY THROWN ORDINANCE, BUT THROUGH COUNTY PRACTICES, THROUGH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, YOU KNOW, RECREATION, ETC. THOSE ARE SOME EXAMPLES. ANYWAY, WE JUST BRING THAT BACK TO THE BOARD SHOULD THERE BE

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>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> I'D LIKE TO BRING TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION IS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AT DIFFERENT PARKS AND RECREATION ALL FACILITIES, IF YOUR POSTING FOR AWARENESS FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING, I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS A RELUCTANCE TO IMPOSE MORE GOVERNMENT REGULATION. BUT I THINK WHAT THE BOARD STATUTE HAS WRITTEN IT ENABLES THEM TO PUT US ON NOTIFICATIONS, PUBLIC RESTROOMS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I WOULD ASK THE BOARD TO CONSIDER DOING THAT.

I THINK IT'S EASY. IT'S PUBLIC PROPERTY. TO INCREASE AWARENESS AND PROCEDURE. IT'S FAIRLY COMMON TO SEE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES OR COUNTY PROPERTY ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE LARGE NUMBERS OF INDIVIDUALS. BUT THEN WITH THE BOARD'S PREFERENCE, MAYBE LOOK AT DEVELOPING AN ORDINANCE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT WOULD BE BROADER IN SCOPE. AT A MINIMAL, YOU SHOULD CONSIDER PROPERTY TO CONSIDER THIS.

>> IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, I CERTAINLY DON'T CONSIDER MYSELF AN EXPERT ON THIS TOPIC. ALTHOUGH THROUGH THE MILITARY. THEY PROVIDE TRAINING ON THIS. ONE ASPECT IS GENERAL PUBLIC AWARENESS. SO THAT THE PUBLIC'S HAS ITS EYES OPEN TO LOOK FOR SIGNS, AN INDICATION OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING. FURTHERMORE, THERE IS -- AND I THINK WHAT THE STATE LAW POINTS TO IS TRYING TO PUT NOTICES IN A PLACE WHERE THE ACTUAL VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING MIGHT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THOSE. I THINK FOR THE FIRST PART, THAT'S A LOW HANGING FRUIT I THINK. I THINK THERE WOULD BE OPPORTUNITY AND WE WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO COME UP WITH A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT. AND THEN MAYBE SAY FOR LATER BOARD DISCUSSION WHETHER THEY WOULD WANT TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP AS TO DEVELOPING AN ORDINANCE WITH THESE OTHER PROVISIONS. THANK

YOU. >> MR. BLOCKER VERSUS ADDRESSES TO IDENTIFY AND LOOK FOR PLACES OF SIGNAGE IN PUBLICLY OWNED FACILITIES. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AS WELL IT SEEMS TO BE A VERY ACHIEVABLE OPPORTUNITY.

IN REGARD TO THE ORDINANCE, WE TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL IN A MOMENT. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BUSINESS ADDITIONAL REGULATION COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO I HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH SOME OF THOSE, THOSE MATTERS. BUT WITH THAT WITH REGARD TO IDENTIFYING AND PLACING SIGNS

FOR EDUCATION AND AWARENESS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT DONE. THE COST SHOULD BE MINIMAL. IF WERE JUST TRYING TO EDUCATE THE PEOPLE TO TRY TO REACH OUT OUR PARKS AND LIBRARIES THAT WOULD COVER A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND THEN YOU'RE NOT INTO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW ENFORCE WHO'S GONNA GO TO THESE BUSINESSES. WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A SUPER ACTIVE AIRPORT, IT'S A SMALL AIRPORT. THAT KIND OF STUFF. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO GO RIGHT NOW I REALLY EFFICIENT COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO SUPPORT AGREE?

>> PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT. >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD IF YOU HAVE IT. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS TIME I DO NOT SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSE. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THIS WILL BE THE LAST TOPIC FOR MY REPORT TODAY. JA, AS THE BOARD KNOWS, IT AUTHORIZED THE CHAIR TO WRITE A LETTER TO JA WHICH THE CHAIR DID JANUARY 21, FOLLOWING THE EARLIER IN THE WEEK DCC MEETING. THE RESPONSE FROM JA TO THAT I WOULD GENERALLY CHARACTERIZE AS DISMISSIVE AND SO, WE HAVE DRAFTED A SUBSEQUENT LETTER FOR THE CHAIR WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO

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>> ULTIMATELY SUMMARIZE IT NEEDS TO NOT FORFEIT ANY RIGHTS THAT WE HAVE HAD IN ANY AGREEMENT WHICH THEY HAVE PROPOSED TO US ULTIMATELY AS IT COMES DOWN TO HIM. WILL BACK

IT UP -- >> THAT'S RIGHT. AND AGAIN, KEEP THIS ON THEIR RADAR. IT DOES SEEM, ALMOST EVERY DAY, THAT THERE'S ANOTHER JEA STORY, SOMETHING HAPPENING UP THERE AND YOU KNOW, WOULD NOT WANT THIS ASPECT TO GET LOST IN THE WEEDS UP THERE. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THAT TO THE FOREFRONT. AGAIN IS THE CHAIR SAYING TO PROTECT ITS RIGHTS AND NOT FORFEIT RIGHTS UNDER THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. SO I GUESS WHAT I WOULD DO, THEN, IS SIMILAR TO THE JANUARY BCC MEETING I'LL BE ASKING FOR AUTHORIZATION, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CHAIR AGAIN, TO SEND A SIGNAL OF THIS LETTER TO

JA. -- JEA. >> I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF HEARTBURN SENDING THIS LETTER. I READ IT AND I UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD SET IT. I WILL SAY I THINK IT'S FAIR AT THIS POINT IN TIME MY OPINION IS THAT BASED ON WHAT IS GOING ON IN JACKSONVILLE AND JEA, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IF NOT THIS WEEK, NEXT WEEK, THE BOARD IS GOING TO STEP DOWN. THERE IS SO MUCH TURMOIL THAT I DO NOT SEE ANY PATH FORWARD FOR JEA WERE THEY WOULD BE IN A POSITION TO ENTER INTO A VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT TO HAVE US PURCHASE THE JEA FACILITIES IN OUR COUNTY BASED ON A ARM'S-LENGTH VOLUNTARY TRANSACTION. SO ALTHOUGH WE CAN SEND THIS LETTER, I WOULD VOTE FOR IT. I THINK WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE -- AND REMEMBER, WE ARE NOT, -- WE MAY HAVE A RIGHT UNDER THE LETTER OF INTENT THEY SENT THIS FALL TO

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HARM EITHER. >> I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE -- IS IT NECESSARY OR IS WHAT WE'VE DONE SUFFICIENT. AND THAT'S MY QUESTION TO THE BOARD. THROUGH ME SIGNING IT, BEHALF OF THE BOARD, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IS NECESSARY AND IF WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS SUFFICIENT THUS FAR. AND I DON'T MIND SIGNING IT BUT

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. >> I TELL YOU WHAT I THINK. I THINK IF WE -- IF WE THINK THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE MAY, WITH GOOD FAITH NEGOTIATION, ENTER INTO A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT WITH JEA, POSSIBLY, THAT I THINK THIS LETTER IS NECESSARY. I, FOR ONE, DO NOT SEE THIS HAPPENING. BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WRITING IT TO THEM DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> ABSOLUTELY. ANYBODY ELSE ANY COMMENTS.

>> I'LL BE BRIEF, WANT TO PROTECT OUR RIGHTS UNDER THE CONTRACT. I STILL WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE CAN DISTRIBUTE AT WHAT POINT TO OUR RESIDENTS TO SAY IF THIS WERE TO MOVE FORWARD HERE'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN WAY OF A TRANSITION. SO THAT OUR COMMUNITY WHO IS SERVED BY JEA WOULD KNOW WHAT CHANGES, IF ANY THEY WOULD EXPERIENCE FIRST-HAND EITHER FOR BILLS OR SERVICE OR WHATEVER ELSE IT MAY INCUR, WHETHER WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEGOTIATION OR NOT I WANT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION AND THAT'S THE MAIN QUESTION. IF WE ARE SERVED BY JEA WHAT WHAT I, AS A RESIDENT EXPERIENCE. IT'S IMPORTANT EXERCISE THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH NOT EXTENSIVE, NOT TO THE NEAREST DOLLAR, WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE. I EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT THIS IS AN ARMS LENGTH TRANSACTION. IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN ENFORCE OR ENCOURAGE ENFORCEMENT OF THE SALE. BUT HAVE THAT OPEN DIALOGUE. WE HAVE A CONFIDENT UNDERSTANDING COMMUNITY THAT RECOGNIZES THE DETAILS OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THEY SIMPLY ARE LOOKING FOR ANSWERS BUT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR OVER 12 MONTHS NOW. WE'D LIKE TO SEE WATCH, AS OF ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME WHAT IS IT LOOK LIKE. BASED ON ASSETS THAT WOULD BE PURCHASED, COSTS, AND POWER, WHATEVER WE MAY BE.

HERE'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. IF OUR RESIDENTS FIND OUT IT'S NOT POWERFUL, THEN WE ARE CHASING SOMETHING THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WE REPRESENT YOU WANT US TO CHASE. THAT'S MY ONLY REPLY -- REQUEST AT THIS POINT.

>> I'D LIKE TO ADD TO COMMISSIONER JOHN! THAT YOU MIGHT THINK THAT THIS IS THE MOST IMPACT ON DISTRICT ONE INDUSTRY FOR 35,000 ACCOUNTS ARE LOCATED. LET ME POINT OUT, THAT OUR UTILITY DEPARTMENT IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND. AND IF WE GO FORWARD AND MAKE A MAJOR PURCHASE AND ISSUE ONE, 200 $300 MILLION IN BONDS, THAT'S NOT JUST THE NORTH PART OF THE COUNTY. THAT'S ALL OF THE RATE PAYERS IN THE COUNTY. IT'S NOT JUST THE NORTH AND ALL PLAYERS COULD BE AFFECTED UNDER THAT SCENARIO SO ALL OF US HAVE A DOG IN THIS HUNT.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN I GET MR. JOHN!. HAVE WE DONE A COST ANALYSIS AND LOOKED AT WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THE COUNTY IS IN PROCESS, YOU WILL NOTE THAT WE'VE DONE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH. I WOULD NOT INTERJECTED BUT IT'S INTERESTING THE COMMISSIONER, IS THAT CAUGHT -- COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS EVERY 15 MILLION. WITHOUT GETTING INTO NUMBERS PUBLICLY, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT DISPARITY OF WHERE THE NUMBERS MAY FALL. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS COMMISSIONER BLOCKER OR DEAN YOU'RE SEEKING TO DO A 400 I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS COMMISSIONER BLOCKER OR DEAN YOU'RE SEEKING TO DO A $400 MILLION ANALYSIS COUNTYWIDE. WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE BELIEVE THE NUMBERS WOULD FALL

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>> ARE WE WAITING ON DOCUMENTS THAT THEY HAVE NOT TURNED OVER FOR 10 OR 15 YEARS?

>> WE ARE. >> ARE THOSE DOCUMENTS NEEDED

FOR THE ANALYSIS. >> THEY ARE NEEDED TO DETERMINE THE ANALYSIS OF WHERE WE BELIEVE THE VALUE OF THE ASSETS ARE. IT'S NOT NEEDED TO DETERMINE THE ANALYSIS FOR THE RATE IF YOU WILL OR WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT, BUT THE IMPACT IS BASED ON WHAT THE PURCHASE PRICE -- OF THE ASSETS. YOU'RE LOOKING AT INFORMATION WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS. WERE WAITING ON OTHER PARTIES TO GIVE US DOCUMENTS AND UP TO THIS POINT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN FORTHCOMING. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN HELPFUL IN PROVIDING THE DOCUMENTS. SO ANOTHER THING WE HAVE TO CONSIDER IS THIS COULD GO ON FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

COMMISSIONER JOHN! THAT WE HAD RESIDENTS ASKED AND IS COMMISSIONER DEAN POINTED OUT REALISTICALLY, ARE WE GOING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN PROCEED DOWN THE ROAD? I WANT TO WASTE THE STAFF TIME OR ENERGY AT THE END OF THE DAY WERE GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF MAN HOURS AND RESOURCES AND THEN WE HAVE AN OUTSIDE UTILITY COUNSEL.

>> WE DO. THOSE ARE LEGAL COSTS OF OVERSPENDING FOR SOMETHING WE ARE NOT SURE THAT WE WANT TO GET INTO. SO WE'VE HAD CONVERSATION ABOUT SAVING TAXPAYER DOLLARS. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT AN ONGOING ANALYSIS THAT COULD BE INCOMPLETE, COULD NOT HAVE ALL THE FACTS WE NEEDED AT THE END OF THE DAY IS NOT GONNA GET US ANYWHERE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A WILLING PARTY THAT WANTS TO NEGOTIATE WITH US WHICH BRINGS ME TO A POINT MADE EARLIER.

WHAT ARE WE REALLY ACCOMPLISHING HERE. I SAY THIS AS AN OPEN DISCUSSION THE ONLY TIME WERE ABLE TO DISCUSS THIS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT. IF WE WORRY ABOUT WASTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS, MY DISTRICT IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPACTED AS COMMISSIONER JONES.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM GOING TO A RESIDENCE AND SAY WE DID NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION WE NEEDED AND WERE WASTING A LOT OF TIME MONEY AND ENERGY TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE MAY NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE WITH ANOTHER PARTY. I THINK WE REALLY HAVE TO ALMOST TAKE A PAUSE AND THINK THROUGH HOW FAR WE WANT TO PROCEED. THIS COULD BECOME COSTLY QUICKLY AND IS NOT

GETTING US ANYWHERE. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER ALLUDED TO I WAS PLANNING TO TALK ABOUT ANYWAY. I'M NOT AS INTERESTED IN PURSUING LEGAL ACTION. AS IEM FOR THE INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN LEGALLY AGREED UPON BY BOTH PARTIES TO BE PROVIDED BY JEA TO ST. JOHN'S COUNTY FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS AND IS NOT. THAT'S THE REASON WERE NOT ABLE TO EVALUATE THE ASSETS AND THEIR VALUE BECAUSE THE INFORMATION THAT WAS LEGALLY AGREED TO AS TO MY UNDERSTANDING HAS NEVER BEEN PROVIDED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND SHOULD BE. I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE EVERY LEGAL OPPORTUNITY TO ENCOURAGE THE BAD BEHAVIOR OF THE PAST BE PUT IN THE PAST AND THEN MOVE FORWARD TO START MOVING FORWARD TO PROVIDING THE DOCUMENTS LEGALLY AGREED UPON BY BOTH ENTITIES SO THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WE HAVE THAT DATA TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE OBJECTIVE EVALUATION. I'M NOT SAYING WHAT HAPPENED 10 OR FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT START NOW, MOVING FORWARD, PUTTING SOMETHING IN WRITING. THAT IS, IS BEEN AGREED UPON BY BOTH PARTIES AND NOT PROVIDED FOR

WHATEVER REASON. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

>>PAUL WALDRON: I THINK IN THE END IF WE CAN REACH A POINT THAT JEA RECOGNIZES OUR FIRST AT OF REFUSAL WE CAN GET THE INFORMATION THEY HAVE, WE UNDERSTAND THE SALE MAY NOT BE NOW BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS SUCH A DISCREPANCY IN WHAT WE CONSIDER THE AGREEMENT TO BE AND WHAT THEY CONSIDER THE AGREEMENT TO BE WE HAVE A FINE LINE OF WHAT IT IS. THAT FIGURE WILL CHANGE OVER TIME FROM WHAT I'VE READ WERE NOT ACQUIRING THE ASSETS.

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>> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY AGAIN? THIS HAS BEEN A USEFUL CONVERSATION. AND ACTUALLY, COMMISSIONER WALDRON I THINK HIGHLIGHTS AN IMPORTANT POINT. WHETHER THE OBLIGATION FOR JEA TO OFFER THIS FOR -- RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL HAS BEEN TRIGGERED THAT THE DEBATE BETWEEN JEA AND THE COUNTY AT THIS POINT. BUT WHAT IS NOT UNDER ANY DEBATE IS WHAT THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT SAYS FOR THE PERIODIC OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT. AND I DO THINK THAT IF NOTHING ELSE, IT WOULD BE VERY USEFUL TO GET A LOT OF THESE OTHER ISSUES AS TO HOW THE EVALUATION IS PARTICULARLY DONE, ETC., IRONED OUT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. RATHER THAN, YOUKNOW, THE TIME PERIOD COMES UP AND THEN IT TAKES ANOTHER TWO OR THREE YEARS TO IRON OUT THE ISSUES. IN OTHER WORDS, I THINK THIS IS AN OPORTUNITY TO PRE-DO THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER JOHN'S FIRST -- I THINK IT'S HIS FIRST COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, FOR INFORMING THE PUBLIC, ETC. IF THE COUNTY EVER IS IN THE POSITION TO PURCHASE THIS AT WHATEVER PRICE, THEN, THE COUNTY WOULD ONLY DO THAT IF IT MADE FINANCIAL SENSE AND INCLUDING FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE EFFECT ON THE RATES, AND THE RATEPAYERS, AND THAT KIND OF THING. AND THAT THAT WOULD BE AN UNDUE NEGATIVE AFFECT THAN THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESUMABLY WOULD NOT WANT TO PURCHASE EVEN IF IT CLEARLY HAD A RIGHT TO. THE OTHER ASPECT OF THAT, THOUGH, IS THE VALUE OF LOCAL CONTROL. THIS ELECTED BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, WHERE CUSTOMERS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, ELECT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN CHARGE OF THE PROGRAM, RIGHT NOW THAT IS NOT TRUE. WITH JEA, AND HEDGE JEA GONE THROUGH WITH ITS, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, INITIAL AMBITION TO SELL THE ENTITY TO A PRIVATE ENTITY, THEN IT WOULD HAVE PUT OUR UTILITY CUSTOMERS IN THE POSITION WHERE SOME POTENTIALLY OUT-OF-STATE OR CERTAINLY OUT OF THE COUNTY PRIVATE ENTITY WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF THEIR UTILITIES AND FOR THE RATES AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING, WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. SO THERE IS THAT ASPECT AS WELL. BUT NONE OF THESE STEPS WOULD BE IN ANY WAY TAKEN, WHICH WOULD PUT THE COUNTY AND THE RATEPAYERS, PARTICULARLY, IN A NEGATIVE POSITION. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, TOO, FOR THE REQUIRED INFORMATION, TO BE FAIR TO JEA, THEY HAVE PROVIDED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INFORMATION BUT THERE IS ALSO A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED. AND ACTUALLY, THROUGH THE COMMENTS OF THIS BOARD, EVEN THOUGH OUR OFFICE HAD DONE A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, IT MAY BE HELPFUL FOR OUR CHAIR OR ONE OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO REMIND THEM OF THEIR OBLIGATION FOR THOSE RECORDS.

SO, I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO ALSO COMMISSIONER SMITH, YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE RATIONALE FOR THIS LETTER. YOUR JANUARY 21 LETTER, AS AUTHORIZED BY THE BOARD, IN MY VIEW, SATISFIED

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IT DID THAT ON JANUARY 21. WHAT THIS LETTER REALLY IS, THOUGH, IS KIND OF FOCUSING ON SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT I THINK JEA HAS BEEN DISMISSIVE ABOUT AND I'M GOING TO ADD IN HERE AGAIN FOR THE RECORDS. SO, BACK FOR THE BOARD AND FOR THE CHAIR, THERE'S NOT A LEGAL REQUIREMENT TO SEND THIS ONE IS OR HAVE BEEN I THINK FOR THE JANUARY 21 LETTER. THIS IS MORE TO ADDRESS, I THINK, THE QUALITY OF RESPONSE JEA IS GIVEN WHICH, IN MY VIEW, SO FAR, IT'S BEEN DISMISSIVE OF THE COUNTY'S POSITION. SO I WOULD LAY IT AT THAT. I STILL THINK IT WOULD BE FRUITFUL FOR THE BOARD TO AUTHORIZE THE CHAIR TO SEND A LETTER. I WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO MAKE REVISIONS BASED ON BOARD DISCUSSION TODAY. IF A LETTER IS NONSENSE, IT WOULD NOT BE FATAL, BUT IN BALANCE, I DO THINK IT WOULD BE ADVISABLE.

THANK YOU. >> I'LL GIVE -- I'LL KEEP THIS SHORT. IN THE FUTURE GOING FOR WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE PRIOR 10 YEARS AS WAS NOTED BUT GOING FORWARD WILL BE HAVE THESE TYPE OF ARRANGEMENTS WITH LEGAL BINDING AGREEMENTS WITH OUTSIDE AGENCIES WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WERE MAINTAINING THE RECORDS OR NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HAD NOT BEEN HAPPENING IN THE PAST. I WOULD ENCOURAGE OUR NEW ADMINISTRATION TO FIX THAT.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE COLLECTING THE RECORDS AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON IS THE BEST INTEREST. I'M GETTING ENCOURAGE YOU TO FIX THAT. LOOK AT WHATEVER AGREEMENTS WE HAVE IF WE NEED THAT INFORMATION. IT'S BETTER TO GET IT UP FRONT THAT NOT BE ABLE TO GET IT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

>> AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE POINT EITHER, BUT I THINK THAT PATRICK IS MADE A GOOD POINT THAT I SUPPORT. THAT IS, I THINK THIS LETTER SHOULD BE TWEAKED AND TWEAKED MAJOR LEAGUE TO CAPTURE THE THOUGHTS OF COMMISSIONER JOHNSON COMMISSIONER WALDRON WITH RESPECT TO GOING FORWARD. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT JEA COMPLIES WITH ITS CURRENT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND FURNISHING US ANNUAL REPORTS THAT ARE CORRECT AND COMPREHENSIVE. SO THAT IF THE ISSUE CONTINUES OR COMES UP IN THE FUTURE IS A POTENTIAL EXERCISE, WE WILL BE IN A POSITION TO EXERCISE THAT OR CONSIDER EXERCISING IT WITH FULL INFORMATION WITH OUR EYES OPEN. FOR THE GIST OF THIS LETTER, I WOULD EMPHASIZE THAT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ENCOURAGE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN A LETTER.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DO WE HAVE CONCURRENCE? WE HAVE A LETTER WITH SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND ALTERATIONS AND MADE IT VERY CLEAR.

>> ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL ENTERTAIN A PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS MATTER WITH JA.

>> MR. COME -- CHAIRMAN WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> I'M PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? ALL HEARTS AND MINDS CLEAR?

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