Jan 21, 2020 Board of County Commissioners

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>> I LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THIS JANUARY 21, 2020 BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

MAY I HAVE THE COURT PLEASE CALL THE ROLE >>

>> I WOULD NOW IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE EVOCATION OF LIKE TO ASK PASSION MATT MCCOURY TO COME FORWARD AND GIVE US THE EVOCATION.

>> GOOD MORNING. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE GRATEFUL. I WANT TO READ FROM JAMES CHAPTER 1 IT SAYS IF YOU NEED WISDOM ASK OUR GENEROUS GOD AND HE WILL GIVE IT TO YOU.

HE WILL NOT REBUKE YOU FOR ASKING. WHEN YOU ASK AND BE SURE YOUR FAITH IS IN GOD ALONE. DO NOT WAVER FOR A PERSON WITH DIVIDED LOYALTY IS AS UNSETTLED AS A WAVE IN THE SEA AND BLOWN AND TOSSED BY THE WIND. SUCH PEOPLE SHOULD NOT EXPECT US TO RECEIVE ANYTHING BUT FROM THE LORD. WE THANK YOU FOR THE OUTSET OF THIS MEETING, FATHER, FOR WISDOM, SAYS THAT YOU GIVE GENEROUSLY TO US SO WE PRAY FOR WISDOM TO THIS MEETING AND FATHER THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR THAT THIS WOULD BE FILLED WITH WISDOM AS DECISIONS ARE MADE AND LEADERSHIP IS TAKEN ON. WE THANK YOU FOR THAT AND WE

PRAY FOR A GREAT MEETING, AND JESUS NAME, AMEN >> WILL YOU PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER

GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> YOU MAY BE SEATED.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? GREAT. I WANT TO INTRODUCE BETSY FORD

[Proclamations ]

PROCLAMATION INTO THE RECORD AND INVITE MS. FORD TO SAY A FEW WORDS.>> A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, WHEREAS HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS A RECRUITMENT, HARBORING, TRANSPORTATION, PROVISION OR OBTAINING OF A PERSON FOR LABOR OR SERVICES THAT THE USE OF FORCE FRAUD OR COLLUSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF FORCED LABOR OR SEXUAL SERVITUDE AND WHEREAS HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS $150 BILLION A YEAR GLOBAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE IT IS A CRIME AS WELL AS CIVIL AND HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION AND THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT ESTIMATES THAT BETWEEN 600,000 TO 800,000 INDIVIDUALS ARE TRAFFICKED ACROSS INTERNATIONAL BORDERS EACH YEAR AND WHEREAS IN 2018 FLORIDA HAD THE THIRD HIGHEST NUMBER OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING CASES IN THE UNITED STATES AND FROM 2016 TO 2018, THE FLORIDA HUMAN TRAFFICKING OUTLINE REPORTED 4357 CASES AND WHEREAS MORE AWARENESS AND EDUCATION ARE CRUCIAL TO ERADICATING HUMAN TRAFFICKING IN OUR IMMUNITY, STATE AND NATION NOW THEREFORE BE PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA VACUUM AND TRAFFIC AWARENESS BE RECOGNIZED AND ENCOURAGED TO SUPPORT SURVIVORS AND THEIR FAMILIES IN THE FIGHT AGAINST THE EXPLOITATION OF MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN. PAST AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THIS 21ST DAY OF JANUARY, 2020. A TEST BRANDON PATTY CLERK OF COURT, BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA SIGNED JOB AS A

SMITH CHAIR. >> I WOULD LIKE TO BRAG ON FLORIDA, THE MANY ACCOLADES THE FIRST WE HAVE IN COMPARING OURSELVES TO OTHER COUNTIES AND STATES.

I WANT TO REPEAT ONE ITEM IN THE PROCLAMATION PART FLORIDA HAD THE THIRD HIGHEST REPORTED

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WE CAN'T STOP SOMETHING IF WE ARE NOT AWARE OF IT. AND THANKS TO THIS ORGANIZATION AND OTHERS, WE ARE BECOMING MORE AWARE OF THE SITUATION THAT CAUSES THIS SERIOUS ISSUE IN OUR STATE AND BY BEING AWARE OF IT, BEING VIGILANT, BUT MY HOPE IS WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE A BAD RECORD TO SUSTAIN. THE OPPORTUNITY PROVIDES INFORMATION TO US BRIEFLY AND TO ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO PARTICIPATE IN RECOGNIZING SITUATIONS AND DISCOURAGING THEM SO THIS IS NO LONGER THE SITUATION IN OUR STATE. NOBODY SHOULD EVER HAVE TO

ENDURE THAT TYPE OF SITUATION. >> THE ST. AUGUSTINE BRANCH OF AAA W THAT'S THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF UNIVERSITY OF WOMEN SINCERELY THANKS YOU, THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS, FOR THE CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THIS HUMAN TRAFFICKING PROCLAMATION.

HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS A GLOBAL PROBLEM WITH MILLIONS OF VICTIMS AND ALSO AS WAS JUST SATED BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON VERY SERIOUS LOCAL PROBLEM HERE IN FLORIDA.

THIS IS A FORM OF FORCED LABOR, SLAVERY, SERVITUDE IN ANY INDUSTRY.

25 PERCENT OF ITS VICTIMS ARE CHILDREN, 75 PERCENT ARE WOMEN AND GIRLS.

BOYS AND MEN CAN ALSO BE VICTIMS. OFTEN, VICTIMS ARE GIVEN DRUGS TO MAKE THEM MORE CONTROLLABLE AND DEPENDENT ON THEIR HANDLER. THIS COMPOUNDS THE EFFECT FOR BOTH THE VICTIM AND THE SOCIETY. WE HOPE AND REQUEST THAT YOU THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS WILL TAKE TWO DAYS PROCLAMATION SERIOUSLY AND CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO INFORM VICTIMS OF AVAILABLE HELP. BOTH THE U.S. AND FLORIDA LAWS PROTECT VICTIMS, BUT THIS PROTECTION IS NOT ALWAYS MADE KNOWN TO THE VICTIMS THEMSELVES. THESE PEOPLE IN PERIL NEED HELP FROM ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT AND ALL OF SOCIETY. FLORIDA STATUTES CHAPTER 787 ADDRESSES AND DEFINES HUMAN TRAFFICKING. SECTION 29 RECOMMENDS THAT COUNTY COMMISSIONS ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO ENFORCE SIGNAGE POSTING, PROMOTING PUBLIC AWARENESS AND INSTRUCTING HOW TO GET THERE ASSISTANCE TO THE VICTIMS. THE STATUTE DEFINES WHERE SIGNS SHOULD BE POSTED AND THE INFORMATION THESE SIGNS SHOULD CONTAIN.

WE URGE THE COUNTY TO ADDRESS AND ADOPT SUCH AN ORDINANCE. WE HAVE A COPY OF THE FLORIDA STATUTE OR YOUR INFORMATION FOR YOUR FACILITY AND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

PLEASE HELP THESE TRAFFIC VICTIMS. THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] >> IS MY HONOR TO PROVIDE THIS PROCLAMATION TO YOU AND WITH ALL OF OUR HELP TO ENABLE PEOPLE. WE CAN CERTAINLY REDUCE THE

NUMBERS DRAMATICALLY >> WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THE NEXT PROCLAMATION WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS RECOGNIZING JANUARY AS ST. JOHNS COUNTY JEWISH HISTORY MONTH. AND WITH THIS I WOULD LIKE TO CALL RABBI SHAPIRO AND ALL THE REPRESENTATIVES OF ST. JOHN'S JEWISH HISTORICAL SOCIETY TO THE PODIUM.

AND NOW I'D LIKE TO ASK MS. LUNDQUIST IF SHE WOULD READ THE PROCLAMATION INTO THE RECORD.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ST.

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THE TEST BRANDON PATTY CLERK OF COURTS BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ST. JOHNS COUNTY,

FLORIDA SIGNED JOB AS A SMITH CHAIR. >> THANK YOU.

RABBI SHAPIRO ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU THIS

PROCLAMATION AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK >> AND WE WANT TO THINK THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR ITS SUPPORT AND HELP AND FOR HELPING HER PERSONAL HISTORY OF OUR COMMUNITY WITH ALL THE PRESSURES TO PAVE PARADISE AND PUT UP A BERGAMOT, WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT ESPECIALLY THROUGH YOUR PUBLIC LIBRARY SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN SO HELPFUL TO OUR RESEARCH WE ARE MOST GRATEFUL. THANK YOU.

>> [APPLAUSE] >> COME FORWARD FOR A RETIREMENT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S MY PRIVILEGE AND HONOR TODAY TO RECOGNIZE THE RETIREMENT OF RANDY HARRIS. RANDY, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP, PLEASE? THE OTHER DAY, WE HAD A VERY NICE CEREMONY FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND RECOGNIZED MARY STUART. HE HAD BEEN HERE 35 YEARS. AND BARRY STEWART STARTED 35 YEARS AGO. RANDY WAS ALREADY A VETERAN AT THE COUNTY UTILITY DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS BEFORE THE COUNTY TO PUT UTILITY DEPARTMENT. RANDY STARTED AND THERE WAS ABOUT 12 EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE ABOUT 180 EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE THE RESOURCES VIRTUALLY

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I CAN TELL YOU THAT. HE IS A HYPER GUY. HE'S ALWAYS MOVING.

HE IS A VERY POSITIVE DIRECTION. HE'S GOT SEVERAL ENDEAVORS THAT HE WILL BE LOOKING INTO AND PRACTICING AFTER HE LEAVES HERE.

HE WILL NOT BE BORED. HE PROBABLY WILL USE A ROCKING CHAIR BUT IT WILL BE SITTING ON THE INTRACOASTAL. ON HIS BAIT SHOP. I WANT TO QUICKLY RECOGNIZE SOME OF OUR COWORKERS AND HIS FRIENDS THAT HAVE SHOWN UP TO DATE PARTICULARLY BOBBY JONES.

THE VERY FIRST UTILITY DIRECTOR FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. BOBBY HIRED RANDY AND HIRED A BUNCH OF US. THANKS FOR COMING TODAY.T MEANS A LOT.

WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO RANDY. I ALSO WANT TO TALK VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT HOW CLASSY RANDY IS. HE IS A LIFELONG AVID BULLDOG FAN. AND SO HE WOULD TALK TRASH BEFORE THE GAME, BUT WHENEVER GEORGIA BEAT FLORIDA, WHICH WAS MORE OFTEN THAN I WOULD LIKE, I NEVER SAW HIM ON MONDAY.

I DREADED CMM I NEVER SAW HIM BECAUSE HE WAS CLASSY. IN MY WORLD THAT'S THE ESSENCE OF CLASS. AFTER A VICTORY YOU NEVER WOULD HEAR FROM HIM.

ANYWAY, HE'S BECOME A FRIEND OVER THE YEARS AND A BIG LARGE PART OF HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE. SO I'M VERY HAPPY FOR HIM AS WE ALL ARE AND I WISH HIM THE

BEST.ANDY, CONGRATULATIONS. APPLAUSE] >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE ENJOYED WORKING FOR 36 YEARS IN UTILITIES, LIKE BILL SAID, WE COME FROM WHERE WE WILL KEEP GROWING AND MAKING THIS A GREAT UTILITY FOR ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> BEFORE I ASK FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THESE PROCLAMATIONS, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER HAS

SOMETHING HE WOULD LIKE TO SAY. >> PATRICK I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.

I THINK A WHILE BACK WE TALKED ABOUT RECOGNIZING HUMAN TRAFFICKING AWARENESS IS A

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>> IT HAS BEEN SOME TIME. I REMEMBER IT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED POSSIBLY PUTTING OUT KIND OF NOTICES AT CERTAIN BUSINESSES AND LOCATIONS. I WILL REINITIATE WHERE THAT WAS, JUST MY MEMORY SITTING HERE IS ÃWELL, LET ME GO CHECK AND I THINK I CAN Ã

>> JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER, I THINK WHEN WE BRING THINGS UP AS A BOARD, WE ARE COUNTING ON STAFF TO HELP US TRACK THOSE BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY COME UP AND SAY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT AND WE ASKED STAFF TO LOOK INTO THIS AND WE WANT THIS TRACKED

AND BROUGHT BACK TO OUR ATTENTION. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> ARE WE CLEAR ON THAT? >> GUESSER. >> THANK YOU.

>> I WILL NOW ASK FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THESE PROCLAMATIONS. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

[Public Comment]

>> MOTION CARRIES. WE WILL MOVE ALONG TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS THAT ARE NOT THE REGULAR AGENDA.

REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS WILL HAVE THEIR OWN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

ANY PERON WISHING TADDRESS THE BOARD SHOULD COME TO THE PODIUM.

WE HAVE TO KNOW TWO. YOU SHALL COMPLY WITH THE BOARD'S RULES OF DECORUM COMMENTS SHOULD ADDRESS TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER AND MAY NOT INCLUDE A DEMAND FOR AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE. NO PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH PERSONAL IMPERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR BOISTERUS BEHAVIOR.

MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ANY DISRUPTIVE DEMONSTRATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS. I WOULD ASK ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS ANY OVERHEAD MATERIAL PLEASE PRESENT THE MATERIAL TO THE STAFF AND THE CLERK OF COURT WE HAVE OVER TO MY RIGHT, TO YOUR LEFT TO BE ENTERED INTO PUBLIC RECORD. AT THIS TIME, PLEASE COME

FORWARD. GOOD MORNING, MA'AM. >> GOOD MORNING.HERRY BADGER, 2772 S. COLLINS AVENUE, SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. AND I AM HERE TO MAKE ONE FOR CLARIFICATION. LAST TIME I SAID THAT WHEN I WAS HERE THE U.S. COAST GUARD RECOGNIZED DEEP CREEK AS NAVIGABLE. THAT WAS ÃI DREW A BLANK.

BUT ANYWAY, I AM STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THE FLOODING ISSUE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOBODY APPROVED IT, NO BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION APPROVED IT. THEY PUT A FOUR FOOT DITCH INTO AN 18 INCH CULVERT AND NOW DOT HAS COME AND PUT A MANHOLE AT THE HIGHWAY WHERE THE REST OF THE WATER USED TO GO.HIS STILL FALLS ON ALL YOUR BACKS. SO YOU ALL NEED TO BE LOOKING INTO IT. IT'S DOCUMENTED. MY NEIGHBORS HAVE ALL TALK TO THE COUNTY. WE HAVE ALL TALKED ABOUT IT AND THIS HAS BEEN DONE BY DOT.

YOU'LL NEED TO INVESTIGATE HOW THIS HAPPENED. IT'S THE MARINE CORPS ENGINEERS RECOGNIZED DEEP CREEK AS AN APPLICABLE CREEK. NOT U.S. COAST GUARD.

I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT CLEAR, BUT YOU WILL NEED TO FOCUS ON OUR DRAINAGE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IF IT WAS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY DID THIS TO YOU, YOU WOULD BE CONCERNED. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD DAY.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> GOOD MORNING, SIR. >> HAPPY NEW YEAR.

ED LEHMAN BOX 3084. ST. AUGUSTINE. AS AN INITIAL PROCEDURAL MATTER, WOULD YOU PLEASE DIRECT STAFF TO PLACE THE BACKUP MATERIAL FOR ITEM 7 ON THE SELECTION OF THE NEXT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ON THE WEBSITE AND THE BOOK AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM? IT'S NOT THERE. APPARENTLY THERE'S A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THE COUNTY ATTORNEY JUST TOLD ME BUT IS NOT THERE.

>> JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE IS, BUT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY

>> HE TOLD ME THERE WAS. NYWAY DANIEL PATRICK MOYNIHAN THE LATE GREAT UNITED STATES SENATOR SAID SECRECY IS FOR LOSERS. WE NEED AN OPEN PROCESS FOR THIS. AND I THINK IT'S A DISGRACE THERE'S NOTHING ON THE BACKUP MATERIAL. ARE WE CLEAR ON THAT? ANYWAY, ON JANUARY 31, 2019, ELI WASH TALK WAS MURDERED IN HIS HOME. SHERIFF DAVID SHORE OUTSOURCED

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WANCHICK ÃTHANK YOU FOR FIRING HIM >> MR. WANCHICK MISTED UP.

HE DIDN'T FOLLOW PROPER PROCEDURES AND FOR GOOD REASONS WE VOTED AGAINST IT.

I VOTED AGAINST IT TWICE. IT WAS ABOUT STARTER CHARTER AND WOULD HAVE REQUIRED PETITIONS FROM 20 PERCENT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS JUST TO PUT AN AMENDMENT ON THE CHARTER. BUT LET'S APPOINT A FAIRLY BALANCED CHARTER COMMITTEE AND HAVE A CHARTER TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE SOME SAY SO AND THINGS LIKE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BECAUSE TE SHERIFF IS OPERATING WITHOUT ANY DECENT RESPECT FOR LAW.

$702,771 WORTH OF EMBEZZLEMENT OUTSOURCES NOT ONE TO ANOTHER COUNTY SHERIFF OF HIS OWN CHOOSING. WE ARE LOSING THE RESPECT FOR LAW.

WE NEED TO PROMOTE THE RULE OF LAW IN THIS COUNTY AND IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT WE HAD A COUNTY CHARTER, ONE THAT RESPECTS DIVERSITY AND ASSURES NONDISCRIMINATION AND THAT ASSURES WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT THAT IS WORTHY OF OUR RESPECT AND OUR TRUST.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? PLEASE COME FORWARD. PUBLIC COMMENT?

[Consent Agenda]

COMMENT >> PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED AND WE WILL NOW TURN IT BACK TO

FOR ANY DELETIONS TO THE CONSENT COMMISSIONER GLOVER >> NO SIR

>> NINE >> ADMINISTRATION? >> WE WOULD PULL NUMBER 20 FROM

THE CONSENT AGENDA >> NUMBER 20 BEING PULLED, ANYBODY ELSE? NUMBER 20 2B PULLED I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED >> HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON AND THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

[Regular Agenda]

>> COMMISSIONER WALKER >> NO >> COMMISSIONER WALTER

>> NO >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS >> NO

>> ADMINISTRATION? >> NONE. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO

APPROVE THE REGULAR AGENDA AS IT IS. >>

>> MOTION CARRIES. >> MOVING ALONG TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.

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GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

FOR THE RECORD PHONG NGUYEN TRANSPORTATION MANAGER THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS THE LIST OF PRIORITY PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020. WE ARE REQUESTING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE THE 2020 FOR TRANSPORTATION TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE NORTH FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION FOR FUNDING AND CONSIDERATION.

OVER A DECADE AGO, THE BOARD, THE COMMISSION HAD ESTABLISHED A TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY GROUP MADE UP OF REPRESENTATIVES WITHIN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS INDICATED.

THE TRANSLATION OF OUR GROUP MET ON NOVEMBER 22, 2019 TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS TO ASSIST THE BOARD AND RECOMMENDED THIS YEAR'S 2020 PARTY PRODUCTS. THE OBJECTIVE IS TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS FOR FUNDING, CONSIDERATION FOR POSSIBLE INCLUSION IN FISCAL YEAR 2026 TO THE DOT'S NEXT FISCAL YEAR WORK PROGRAM. ITS FISCAL YEAR 21, 22 THROUGH

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THE LIST OF PROJECTS CONSISTS OF TWO PROGRAMS, ONE IS THE HIGHWAY PROGRAMS PRIMARILY FOR NEW ROADS AND OR WHY GAINING EXISTING ROADS AND INCLUDES REGIONAL PROJECTS AND LOCAL PROJECTS. THE SECOND PROGRAM IS THE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES INCLUDES TRAILS THIS IS THE LIST THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION IN 2018 WHICH IS OUR CURRENT APPROVAL LIST. LAST YEAR, WE DID NOT COME BEFORE YOU DO TO A REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION UPDATE SO AS A RESULT WE ARE COMING BACK TO YOU ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

THIS IS THE RECOMMENDED LIST, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT THE FIRST TOP 22 PROJECTS ON THE LIST ARE THE SAME PRIORITIES AS CURRENTLY APPROVED. THROUGH THE REGIONALS UPDATE, WE ADDED THREE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS, 23, 24, 25. ONE THAT IS A CAPACITY PROJECT ON STATE ROAD 207. THE OTHER TWO JUST REQUEST FOR STUDIES AT THIS TIME.

AND THIS IS THE CAPACITY PROJECT, STATE ROAD 207, EAST OF I-95.

WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS CORRIDOR TO WIDEN TO 6 LANE CHERRY AND THIS IS THE OVERALL MAP INDICATING ALL OF THE REGIONAL PROJECTS, ALL 25. THE LOCAL PRIORITY PROJECTS, THIS IS THE CURRENT LIST ON 28 TWO APPROVED AS YOU CAN SEE, THE RECOMMENDED RANKING PRIORITY FOR THE LOCAL PRIORITY PROJECTS REMAINS THE SAME. WE REMOVED PROJECT NUMBER 10 BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY CONSTRUCTED. AND WE ADD TWO ADDITIONAL PROJECTS. 13 AND 14, PROJECT NUMBER 13 IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH MADE A REQUEST FOR SIDEWALKS ALONG EIGHTH STREET.

SO WITH THAT, I MOVED TO THE SECOND PROGRAM TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PROGRAM.

AND THESE ARE THE TWO LISTS. ONE IS FOR THE TRAILS AND FOR THE SCHOOL AS APPROVED CURRENTLY. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, NO CHANGES TO THE TRAILS.

WE ARE STILL WORKING ON NUMBER ONE, IS FULLY FUNDED THROUGH SUMMIT TRAIL.

THE STUDY HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO. IN ORDER TO HAVE A PREFERRED ALIGNMENT IN THESE SIDEWALKS THE SCHOOL HAD ALREADY COMPLETED NUMBER THREE AND NUMBER EIGHT AND THEY HAD REPRIORITIZE EXISTING LISTS AS INDICATED HERE IN RED.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU SOME OF MY FUNDING UPDATES FOR OUR TOP FIVE PROJECTS ON THE REGIONAL PRIORITY LIST. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, STATE ROAD 313 IS OUR NUMBER ONE FOR MANY YEARS PROJECTS FOR THE COUNTY. WE SEGMENTED THESE PROJECTS INTO TWO CORRIDORS ONE WE CALL THIS THE TOP SEGMENT. BASICALLY IT STARTS AT U.S. 1 A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF THE AIRPORT DOWN TO STATE ROAD 16 AND THE LOWER SEGMENT IS AT 16 DOWN TO 207.

THE DOT IS FOCUSING ON ACQUISITION OF THE LOWER SEGMENT.

THEY HAVE ABOUT HUNDRED AND SIX PARCELS AND THEY ACQUIRED 89 PARCELS REMAINING 17 LOVE AND WE HAVE FUNDING THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 21 REMAINING. SO THEY HAVE SPENT OVER $18 MILLION IN ACQUISITION. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE ONE SMALL PROJECT TO START THE COURT ORCHARD WHICH IS THE FIRST MILE FROM 207 BACK TO HOMES AND THAT IS FUNDED IN FISCAL YEAR 22.

ROUGHLY ABOUT $11 MILLION. AND WE ALSO JUST RECEIVED ON THE TOP PORTION AT U.S. 1 AND

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THAT IS THE SEGMENT BETWEEN I-95 TO THE EAST TO WHAT WE CALL THE COUNTY ROAD 16 A SPUR.

THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN STARTED CONSTRUCTION FROM CLAY COUNTY. THE PROJECT I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU THE STATUS UPDATE ON FUNDING IS STATE ROAD 16 I-95 INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS PART OF THE RESURFACING PROJECT 595 WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO REQUEST WITH DOT IN ORDER TO ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS IN ORDER TO FIX THE INTERCHANGE CURRENTLY IS VERY CONGESTED BOTH THE AM AND PM. SO THE PROGRAM ÃTHE FIRST IMPROVEMENT IS AFTER YOU CAN SEE AFTER IT'S COMPLETED YOU WILL HAVE A SIX LANE FACILITY. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT ANOTHER ADDITIONAL PROJECTS BECAUSE THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR WE ARE LOOKING AT IS FROM MONTREUX TO INMAN.

BUT LOOKING OUTSIDE OF I-95, DOT WERE NOT ABLE TO UTILIZE THE SAME FUNDING.

SO WE HAVE ADDED FROM THE SURFACE URBAN ANOTHER 7 TO $8 MILLION IN ORDER TO FIX WHAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE LIMITED RIGHT-OF-WAY OF THE INTERCHANGE.

SO WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER FOLLOW-UP PROJECT IN 2024 TO FIX ÃFROM 208 CONNECTED TO 16 AND ALSO ON THE EAST FROM INMAN ROAD TO THE INTERCHANGE. AND ALSO WE ARE LOOKING AT RACETRACK ROAD. CURRENTLY, RACETRACK ROAD IS A FOUR LANE FACILITY FROM STATE ROAD 13 ALL THE WAY TO U.S. 1 EXCEPT THIS SEGMENT HERE BETWEEN THE PARK TO BARTON SPRINGS. THERE'SNO CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS BUT PART OF THE WIDENING OF I-95 PROJECT FUNDED IN FISCAL YEAR 2024 WILL INCLUDE A BRAND-NEW FOUR-LANE OVERPASS OVER I-95. AND THAT IS A SUBSTANTIAL COST FOR THIS SEGMENT IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH. SO WE BASICALLY HAVE THE BULK OF THE FUNDING FUNDED IN FISCAL YEAR 2024 FOR THE POTENTIAL FOR LEANING OF THIS SEGMENT OF RACETRACK ROAD.

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THIS IS THE LOCAL PRIORITY PROJECTS, AND THE TRANSLATION ALTERNATIVES PROJECT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. SO STAFF IS REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL OF THE 2020 PROJECTS IN ORDER TO TRANSMIT IT TO THE NORTH FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZATION FOR FUNDING CONSIDERATION AND IN OT'S FISCAL YEAR 2026. I AM HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS FOR ME. >> THANK YOU MR. NEWMAN. QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? COMMISSIONER WALDRON? BE ABLE TO HAVE AN INTERCHANGE THERE. THE REASON IS THAT IT DOES NOT MEET FEDERAL HIGHWAY SEPARATION BETWEEN INTERCHANGES. ALSO, SECONDLY, IS THE EXISTING REST STOP IS VERY CLOSE TO THAT OVERPASS.

>> I'M VERY WELL AWARE OF FLAGLER COUNTY. THAT INTERCHANGE IS BASICALLY MET FEDERAL HIGHWAY REQUIREMENT FOR SEPARATION. IT'S BASICALLY ABOUT FIVE MILES FROM BOTH INTERCHANGES, ONE TO THE NORTH IS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AT U.S. 1. THE OTHER ONE IS Ã

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> THANK YOU FOR THE SUMMARY. YOU ARE RECEIVING MILLIONS OF TAXPAYERS DOLLARS BACK TO THE COUNTY AS A RESULT OF THIS LIST OF PRIORITY PROJECTS TO MEET THE GROWING DEMANDS OF OUR ROADWAYS. I JUST WANT TO GIVE OUT AS A SUMMARY. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, ITEM NUMBER THREE THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY CLOSE TO DOUBLE THE F DOT DISTRICT TO KNOW BUDGET. FOR THAT RIGHT WHALE APPEARED

>> THAT'S TRUE. >> IS CLOSE TO 20 YEARS IN THE MAKING BEFORE EVERYTHING WAS FINALIZED. AND WE HAVE FUNDING NOW, THANKS TO YOU, OUR STAFF AND OTHERS CONTINUING TO KEEP THESE ITEMS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST TO MEET THE GROWING NEEDS WERE SEEN AS POOR COME FOR COMING. AS IT COMES TO OVER OUR COUNTY RESIDENT THROUGH IT AS IT CURRENTLY OCCURS. SO WANT TO GIVE ACCOLADES TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND OTHERS THAT HAVE ENABLED THE FUNDING TO BE APPROVED FROM THE DOT THROUGH THE TPO THROUGH ST.

JOHNS COUNTY AND I WANT PEOPLE TO BE AWARE THIS IS A SLOW PROCESS BECAUSE THERE ARE 67 COUNTIES VYING FOR THE SAME FUNDS. IN THE GROUP WITHIN OUR TPO HAS WORKED VERY WELL TOGETHER TO PROVIDE THESE FUNDS TO OUR COUNTY VERSUS THE OTHERS THAT ALSO RECEIVE FUNDING BUT THEY WORK RATHER WELL TOGETHER AND WE ALL BENEFIT AS A RESULT OF THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT, I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS EVERYBODY IS DOING TO KEEP THE LIST CURRENT, EVALUATING WHERE OUR EVER-CHANGING NEEDS ARE AS OUR POPULATION GROWS AND MOVES IN THE COUNTY TO KEEP THINGS UP TO DATE.

I APPRECIATE THE SUMMARY. SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THE HERCULEAN TASK IT TAKES TO ACQUIRE THIS FUNDING WHEN FUNDS CAN BE SHIFTED FROM ONE LOCATION TO ANOTHER ONE PROJECT TO ANOTHER AND TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THIS AT THE TOP OF OUR LIST AND KEEP THEM FUNDING

UNTIL CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED IS GREATLY APPRECIATED. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT, COMMISSIONER JOHNS. IT'S A LONG PROCESS, AS IT TAKES MANY YEARS TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR A PROJECT. AND AS I HAD SUGGESTED TO THE PREVIOUS BOARDS, THIS IS A LONG-TERM APPROACH, AND WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT AND WE NEED TO BE PERSISTENT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> SAYING NONE WE WILL OPEN IT

UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM Ã

PLEASE COME FORWARD. YES, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING.

1748 [INDISCERNIBLE] ST. AUGUSTINE. WE HAVE SLIGHT CONCERNS AND I WANT TO THANK MR. PALM FOR THE TIME YOU TOOK OUT OF HIS BUSY SCHEDULE WHAT'S GOING ON ON

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ROUGHLY 2000 VEHICLES GIVE OR TAKE A FEW HUNDRED. THE MAJOR CONCERN IS WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN AND OUT OUT OF MIRABELLA. THERE WERE ENTRANCES AS WELL AS 16. YOU HAVE 2209 COMING IN IS GOING TO REDUCE THE OUTGOING TRAFFIC OUT OF MIRABELLA DOWN TO ONLY RIGHT HAND TURNS. IT'S ROUGHLY 700 FEET BETWEEN THE TWO INTERSECTIONS 2209. AS FAR AS THE STATE 'S CONCERN ALIKE COULD BE PUT IN THERE AND SAINT ANNE WITH THE 2209 LIGHT THE WIDENING OF THE HIGHWAY. ANYTHING CAN BE DONE AND I APPRECIATE IT. HE ALSO PROVIDED ME WITH CONTACT WITH THE STATE.

I AM IN CONTACT POSSIBLY THE CHANGE CAN GO THROUGH. > THANK YOU, SIR.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE COME FORWARD. WHAT'S GOOD MORNING.

ED SLAVIN BOX 3084 SAINT AUGUST GREEN.COM. IN THE IMMORTAL WORDS OF JIM HIGHTOWER THE FORMER TEXAS AGRICULTURE COMMISSIONER THERE STILL IN THE ALTERNATIVES.

THERE IS NO SHOULD HAVE MADE THE DVELOPERS PAY FOR THOSE SIDEWALKS.E SHOULD BE INTERNALIZING THE EXTERNAL COSTS OF DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE NOT DOING IT. WE WILL RAISE GENERAL TAX FUNDS THE DEVELOPER SHOULD ADOPT.INGS I WILL COMMEND TO YOUR ATTENTION THERE WAS A WONDERFUL VIDEO PREPARED BY PETER ROMANO WHO RAN FOR ST. AUGUSTINE MAYOR BACK IN 2006.

HE IS NO LONGER WITH US. HE DIED OF DIABETES AND HAD AN AMPUTATION.

SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE REPUBLICANS AND HE WAS A WONDERFUL MAN AND RAN FOR MAYOR IN 2006. HE HAD A VISION WE NEED IS A COUNTY.

AND WHAT HE DID WAS PREPARE A VIDEO SHOWING WHAT A TROLLEY SYSTEM WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND HE ENTERED PROPOSED CUTS AT THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, AND THE TROLLEY SYSTEMS IN ENGLAND AND EUROPE. NOW, WE NEED TRANSIT. WE DON'T HAVE TRANSIT SYSTEMS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. OUR SUNSHINE BUS SYSTEM IS A JOKE.

YOU CAN'T GET FROM HERE TO THERE. THERE ARE FIVE BUSES GOING PAST ANY LOCATION AT ANY ONE DAY. THE OLD BUS SERVICE ON MONDAY. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET TO CHURCH? PEOPLE CAN'T GET RELIABLY ON THAT SUNSHINE BUS SYSTEM TO A JOB OR HEALTHCARE APPOINTMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE ALWAYS LATE. IF WE HAD A TROLLEY SYSTEM AND IF IT WAS PART OF THE DOT BUDGET, WE COULD GET THIS COUNTY MOVING AGAIN.

OUR ROADS ARE CLOGGED. IT'S BECAUSE OF DEVELOPERS. YOU LOOK AT U.S. 1 AND YOU COMPARE U.S. 1 TWO ROADS IN ATLANTA OR HOUSTON THERE'S NO COLLECTOR ROOTS.

THE REASON IS BECAUSE OF CORRUPTION. THEY GO TO MEETINGS AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND HE CAN GET ANYTHING HE WANTED APPROVED. THAT WASN'T THE FIRST TIME HE DID IT, I DON'T THINK. GOD REST GEORGE MCCLURE WHEREVER HE IS BACK IN 1978 ON CORRUPTION AND ZONING AND PLANNING AND LOOK AT CASE STUDIES IN THE SUBURBS WHERE YOU HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF DEVELOPMENT IS ALSO A HIGH DEGREE OF CORRUPTION.

THAT'S WHY WE NEED AN INSPECTOR GENERAL. THAT'S WHY WE NEED AN OMBUDSMAN AND WHY WE NEED THE FBI HERE TO PUT HANDCUFFS ON SOME PEOPLE. I CALLED TOM MANUAL MY FRIENDS THE NIGHT HE WAS ARRESTED BY THE FBI AND I SAID DON'T DO THAT AGAIN.

AS FAR AS THIS BUDGET, PLEASE 86 IT. PUT REAL TRANSIT END.

IT'S NO ABOUT AS WELL. IT NEEDS TO BE ABOUT PEOPLE. RESPECT THE PEOPLE.

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>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY FURTHER COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE?

PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE COME FORWARD WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT AT THIS TIME. >> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSE WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD WITH ANY DISCUSSION. HENCE I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 20/20 ST. JOHNS COUNTY RED WHITE AND TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES LIST PRIORITY PROJECTS FOR TRANSMITTAL TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IN THE NORTH

FLORIDA TPO. >> SECOND. >> A MOTION BY SUBMISSION COMMISSIONER JOHNS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON. PLEASE VOTE.

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IT PASSES 5 TO 0. >> MOVING ALONG TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO NUMBER.

MISMANAGEMENT >> THIS IS A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING IF YOU HAD ANY EXPERT TO COMMUNICATIONS OR MADE ANY SITE VISITS NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO DISCLOSE THOSE COMMUNICATIONS IN THE NATURE OF THIS COMMUNICATION AND IF YOU REMEMBER WHO THE COMMUNICATIONS

WERE MADE WITH. THANK YOU >> THANK YOU, WE WILL START OFF

WITH COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> CONVERSATION WITH KAREN TAYLOR AND WE WERE MEETING ON ANOTHER PROJECT I DID ASK HER HOW THE STATE WAS COMING ALONG WITH DISCUSSIONS WITH NORTHROP GRUMMAN AND SHE INFORMED ME AS SUCH AND THAT WAS THE SHORT AND LONG AND SHORT OF THE DISCUSSION.

>> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE NO RECORD OF ANY MEETING OR RECOLLECTION OF ANY MEETINGS ON THIS MATTER.> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

>> MR. WALDRON: I HAVE NO MEETINGS THAT I SAW SCHEDULED, BUT WE ARE PART OF AN EMAIL CHAIN. I GUESS ALL OF US WERE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN NORTHROP GRUMMAN.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNS? >> MR. JOHNS: I RECEIVED THE SAME EMAILS AND LETTERS BUT HAD

NO MEETINGS. >> I DID AS WELL. I WAS ON THE EMAIL CHAIN THAT EMAIL I RECEIVED THE FIRST ONE WAS DECEMBER 13 FROM ALEXIA DAWES FROM NORTH MCDERMOTT GRUMMAN REQUEST TO TABLE THE AGENDA ITEM 2 JANUARY 21 OF 2020 NORTHROP GRUMMAN TO REVIEW THE APPLICATION POTENTIALLY FAX A NEARBY PROPERTY IN THEIR OPERATIONS.

THE LETTER WAS PINNED ON DECEMBER 11 AND LIKEWISE WE'VE HAD SOME OTHER CORRESPONDENCE IN REGARD TO JUST HOW THAT INTERACTION BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES WAS GOING TO BE ANYTHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE PRIVY TO JUST MAKE SURE IT WAS BEING TENDED TO.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. CYNTHIA MAY, GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

THIS IS A REZONING FOR STAR LANE. THIS ITEM WAS CONTINUED FROM DECEMBER 17 2019 BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION AGENDA FOR THE REASONS THAT COMMISSIONER SMITH HAS JUST STATED. THE REZONING REQUEST IS FOR TWO PARCELS TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 15 ACRES. THE SITE IS LOCATED WITH ACCESS FROM INTERNATIONAL GULF PARKWAY EAST OF U.S. 1 NORTH AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ACCESS IS FROM INDUSTRY PLACED THROUGH STAR LANE WHICH BISECTS THE TWO PARCELS. JUST FOR A POINT OF REFERENCE, NORTHROP GRUMMAN'S SITE IS TO THE SOUTH. THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AND EVERYTHING SURROUNDING IT HAS A FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF INDUSTRIAL.

THE PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT IS A PUD AND ON THE LEFT IS CURRENTLY INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE.

THAT'S THE ZONING. THE EAST PROPERTY IS ABOUT JUST UNDER 10 ACRES.

THE REQUEST FOR THAT PARCEL IS TO REZONE AND EXPIRE PUD WHICH CURRENTLY PERMITS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES AND MATERIALS RECOVERED FACILITY FROM A PUD TO INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE.

THIS IS TO ALLOW INDUSTRIAL USES INCLUDING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE IN THE EXISTING PUD BUT WOULD ELIMINATE THE MATERIALS RECOVERY FACILITY.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND THE SITE HAS BEEN CLEARED.

THERE IS SOME INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE INCLUDING A STORMWATER POND AND STAR LN., ROAD WAS CONSTRUCTED. THE PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE IS APPROXIMATELY FIVE ACRES.

THE REQUEST FOR THAT IS TO REZONE FROM INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND THAT'S TO ALLOW THE EXPANSION OF A CONCRETE ASPHALT FACILITY WHICH CURRENTLY EXISTED NORTH. THE REZONING IS REQUIRED TO PERMIT THAT USE AND IS CURRENTLY AND AN ACTIVE SOD FARM AND YARD WASTE PROCESSING FACILITY.

THE NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS EXEMPT FROM CONCURRENCE. THIS WAS BASED ON LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT ADOPTED IN 2018. DETAILED SITE ACCESS AND

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THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WOULD ANTICIPATING TRIPS AND THE EXCESS OF 500 WOULD ALSO REQUIRE THE INSTALLATION OF RIGHT AND LEFT TURNS. THE DEPARTMENTS REVIEWING INCLUDED FOR POTABLE WATER AND SANITARY SEWER THE PROJECT WOULD BE SERVED BY ST. JOHNS COUNTY UTILITIES DISTRICT. THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT DOES NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE REZONING. THE ORIGINAL INFRASTRUCTURE WAS NEVER FINALIZED AND SO BEFORE ANY NEW PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD, THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD NEED TO BE RETESTED AND FINALIZED THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND HAS CONFIRMED THEY WILL DO THAT.

THE PROPERTY ON THE EASTERN SIDE WOULD BE REZONED FROM PUD TO INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE.

IT WOULD HAVE A LOWER IMPACT WITH THE REMOVAL OF THAT MATERIAL RECOVERS FACILITY.

THE PARCEL WOULD BE REZONED TO ITS ORIGINAL CLASSIFICATION OF INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE AND ON THE WEST SIDE FROM INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IS AGAIN REQUIRED TO ACCOMMODATE THAT CONCRETE AND ASPHALT RECOVERY FACILITY. THAT IS BECAUSE OF AN UPDATE TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN RECENT TIMES. THE MAJORITY OF AREAS SOUTH OF INTERNATIONAL GULF PARKWAY AND WEST OF U.S. 1 HAS INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE DESIGNATION JUST A BRIEF LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON.

INTERNATIONAL GULF PARKWAY, U.S. 1. HEAR THE PROPOSED REZONING NORTHROP GRUMMAN PROSPECT PROPERTY IS TO THE SOUTH THERE'S AN EXISTING RECYCLING FACILITY TO THE WEST AND THE INDUSTRIAL PARK IS TO THE WEST. THE EXISTING CONCRETE FACILITY IS TO THE NORTH. STAFF RECEIVED ONE PHONE CALL OF INQUIRY AND THAT ACTUALLY WAS FROM THE NORTHROP GRUMMAN FOLKS, AND ON THE 11TH WE RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE REQUESTING THAT THE BOARD CONTINUE THAT ITEM SO THEY COULD WORK WITH THE APPLICANT REGARDING THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS. WE HANDED OUT THIS MORNING A COPY OF THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT FOR THE BOARD TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

BUT THE APPLICANT ALSO PROVIDED INFORMATION TO GRUMMAN AND THAT WILL BE A PRIVATE AGREEMENT GOING FORWARD. ON NOVEMBER 21, 2019, THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY VOTED 7 TO ZERO IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, STAFF SUPPORTS THE RECOMMENDATION Ã SUPPORTS THE REZONING FINDING THE REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE HAVE PROVIDED FOR FINDINGS OF FACT TO SUPPORT A MOTION TO SUPPORT THE REZONING. THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEE NOTE WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

THANK YOU, MS. MAY. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

KAREN TAYLOR, 77 SARAGOSSA ST. AND DAVID WHICH IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS WITH ME AS WELL. HIS COMPANY UNITED BROTHERS WHICH YOU HAVE PROBABLY SEEN INFORMATION AROUND TOWN BY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING BECAUSE IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. I HAD THREE ITEMS SCHEDULED FOR THE DECEMBER MEETING.

THERE WERE TWO OTHERS THAT WENT FORWARD THE STAR LANE ONE DID NOT.

SO IN CASE ANYTHING COMES UP. >> I WILL BE PRETTY BRIEF. ACTUALLY, CYNTHIA COVERS IT ALL WHICH SHE DOES VERY WELL. THE ONLY THING I HAVE IS A BIT OF CORRECTION ON SOME OF THE CORRECTIONS. THAT KIND OF SHOWS YOU WHERE THIS IS AND WHERE THE GENERAL AREA IS. SHE HAS POINTED OUT WE HAVE INTERNATIONAL GULF PARKWAY.

U.S. 1. THIS IS INDUSTRIAL PLACE THAT GETS TO IT AND THIS IS STAR LANE WHICH IS FOR THE NAME AND AS MENTIONED, YOU CAN SEE THE KIND OF TOP PART OF GRUMMAN HERE TO THE SOUTH.

IT IS LOCATED WEST AND IT IS IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. THE OVERALL I 14.88 ACRES AND ORIGINALLY WHEN WE SUBMITTED WE HAD TROUBLE WITH THE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS.

WE INCLUDED THE ROAD IN ONE OF THE PARCELS AND THEN BY THE END WE TOOK THE ROAD OUT.

SO THE ROAD WILL NOT BE REZONED. SO THAT IS WHY THE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I HAVE. SHE MENTIONED TO YOU THAT THERE WAS AN APPROVED PROJECT ON THE EASTERN PROPERTY WHICH WILL BE THE ONE ALONG THE RAILROAD AND THERE WAS ALSO ONE ALONG THE WEST PROPERTY INCLUDING LAND REQUIRING ACTIVITY A NUMBER OF

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AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS TO DO THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ON THE EAST SIDE AND THEN DO THE HEAVIER INDUSTRIAL ON THE WESTERN SIDE. AND THAT KIND OF SHOWS YOU ÃTO POINT OUT, CYNTHIA BRIEFLY TOUCHED ON IT YEARS AGO. YOU HAD ONE INDUSTRIAL CATEGORY.HE COUNTY CREATED TO BECAUSE THERE WAS A DISPARITY BETWEEN SOME OF THE MORE HEAVY USES AND THE LIGHTER AND SO NOTHING GOT REZONED AT THE TIME.O ACTIVITIES THAT WERE GOING ON IN IW FOUR YEARS WERE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE, BUT WHEN YOU START INTO A NEW THING NOW YOU HAVE TO REZONE IT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY EVEN THOUGH THERE IS AN EXISTING ACTIVITY.

AND AGAIN, THE ROAD ISN'T GOING TO BE HER DO THIS. AND JUST A FEW PICTURES JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THIS IS COMING DOWN TO THE FACILITY. THAT SHOWS YOU THE EXISTING FACILITY ASSURES YOU WHAT HAPPENS AND PUTS A LOT OF CONCRETE UP AND THEN AT ONE POINT CRUSHES IT AND AGAIN, A LITTLE MORE OF THE CURRENT SITE AND THAT IS GOING DOWN THE LANE IN THE CUL-DE-SAC AND WHEN WE TALK IN A FEW MINUTES ABOUT THE RESOLUTION WITH GRUMMAN, WHAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE IS COMING DOWN THE ROAD AND ON THE CUL-DE-SAC.

AND ACTUALLY THIS SITE IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HEAVIER USES AND I BROUGHT MAPS AND I APOLOGIZE THERE LIKE THIS BUT WE HAVE TO TURN IN OUR POWERPOINT EARLIER AS NOTED IN THAT EMAIL WE DID MEET WITH WE FINALLY GOT HIM CONTACT WITH GRUMMAN AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE HOLIDAYS AND GAVE THEM VIDEOS. THEY HAD A REALLY GOOD IDEA WHAT THIS WAS ALTHOUGH PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS AND THAT AND THE END RESOLUTION WITH THEM ÃTHEY WERE BASICALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CRUSHING ACTIVITY.

THEY THOUGHT THERE COULD BE NOISE AND VIBRATION AND DUST. AND THEY DO SOME TESTING IN THAT LOCATION TO THE SOUTH. SO THAT THE RESOLUTION OF THAT WAS A PRIVATE AGREEMENT AND THEY PRFERRED A PRIVATE AGREEMENT. IT WILL BE BETWEEN THEM AND DAVID HAS TALKED WITH THEM A NUMBER AND LIMIT THE OPERATIONS FROM THE CRUSHING UP TO 50 AND DO THEIR PRIMARILY TESTING AT NIGHT. THERE IS A PROVISION IF THEY NEED TO DO SOME DAYTIME TESTING, THAT THEY CAN REQUEST THAT AND DAVID WOULD CESE OPERATIONS FOR NOT MORE THAN 24 HOURS ON THE UNCURED THAT HE IS NOT TO DO ANY ÃPLACE ANY MATERIALS OR ANYTHING OR DO ANY OF THE CRUSHING WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF HIS PROPERTY. AND I CAN POINT THAT ONE LITTLE ARROW AND THING HERE.

SO THIS IS 300 FEET MEASURED BY YOUR GS. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THIS PROPERTY THEY DO NOT OWN THAT'S BETWEEN THAT AND THEN BUFFERING ON THEIR OWN PROPERTIES.

SO TOTAL WISE THEY PROBABLY HAVE OVER 600 FEET. THAT'S NO PROBLEM.

THE WAY THE CRUSHING ACTIVITY IS DONE THEY PILE ÃTHE CRUSHING MATERIALS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE SITE AND THEN THEY CRUSH THEM ON THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE.

THAT WASN'T A PROBLEM. AND THEN TO OPERATE UNDER CURRENT PERMITS AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS AND INDUSTRIAL PRACTICES. SO THIS IS JUST A LITTLE CLOSER JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA. YET IT DOES POINT OUT THE TWO PIECES AS WELL. SO THE CRUSHING ACTIVITY WILL ONLY BE ALLOWED ON THE SITE

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THAT WAS ALSO A RESOLUTION. >> WITH THAT SAID IF I CAN GO BACK TO MY ÃSO WE DO FEEL LIKE THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AND THE PROPERTIES ARE INDUSTRIAL.

THERE'S ONE GENTLEMAN THAT HAS HIS HOUSE AND HE'S BEEN THERE FOREVER.

ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ZONINGS WE HAVE HAD OVER THE YEARS WE CHANGE THAT SO HE COULD HAVE HIS HOME THERE AND DAVID DOES HAVE AN EASEMENT TO PROVIDE HIM WITH THAT ACCESS.

BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH ANY OF THE THINGS THAT GO ON.

IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND AS CYNTHIA MENTIONED WE WERE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY AND WE HAVE RESOLVED OUR NEIGHBOR ISSUES. WE WOULD REQUEST APPROVAL TODAY AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND DAVID IS HERE WITH ME IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ASK HIM.

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? >> MR. BLOCKER: THANK YOU MRS. TAYLOR. YOU SAID THAT YOUR POWERPOINT HAD TO BE TURNED IN EARLY.

WHO ARE YOU TURNING THIS INTO? >> TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE.

>> MR. BLOCKER: I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE HAD THESE POWER POINTS IN OUR BRIEFINGS AS WELL. THERE'S SOME PHOTOGRAPHS AND THINGS THAT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THESE POWER POINTS IN HERE. I THINK MOVING FORWARD Ã

>> THEY ARE NOT QUITE THAT EARLY. USUALLY, I DON'T TURN THEM IN UNTIL AFTER YOUR AGENDA HAS BEEN PUBLISHED. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW

>> IN THE WAY I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE THE POWER POINTS I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL UNLESS THE BOARD DISAGREES. A QUICK QUESTION, MS. TAYLOR.

WERE THERE ANY ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS OVER AIR QUALITY WITH THE CONCRETE BEING CRUSHED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? OBVIOUSLY THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING FOR A LONG TIME.

IT'S A SAFE OPERATION. HAVE THERE EVER BEEN ISSUES WITH AIR QUALITY THAT YOU ARE

AWARE OF? >> THAT'S SOMETHING DAVID COULD TALK TO.

THERE'S STRICT THINGS AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO WITH AND JUST AS A NOTION, THIS IS ACTUALLY A FACILITY THAT MOVES, THE CRUSHER ITSELF IS MOVED AROUND. AND WHEN IT LEAVES HERE IT'S

GOING UP TO THE JACKSON LANDING >> DO YOU WANT TO JUST TALK BRIEFLY ON THAT?

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. 6924 DISTRIBUTION AVENUE, SOUTH. WE ARE REGULATED BY THE STATE. WE GET CHECKED TWICE A YEAR AND REMOVE THE PRESSURE AND AND THEY HAVE TO COME IN AND DO AN AIR QUALITY SURVEY BEFORE WE CAN EVEN START CRUSHING. WE MOVED IN ONLY WHEN WE HAVE ENOUGH CONCRETE SO WE MIGHT CRUSH FOR THREE MONTHS AND BE GONE FOR 15 TRACK Ã18 MONTHS AND IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE SUPPLY HOW FAST IT COMES IN AND WE COULD BE BACK CRUSHING FOR SIX MONTHS.

WE ARE GOVERNED BY THE STATE AND WE DO HAVE PERMITS ALL THE TIME

>> I APPRECIATED.HANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE? >> NO, SIR.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU, MS. TAYLOR.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2

>> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2.

PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> ED SLAVIN BOX 3084, ST. AUGUST GREEN.COM.

WE NEED AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSON AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO TESTIFY ON MATTERS LIKE THIS.

I DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT RELYING UPON THE STATE OF FLORIDA MY LATE FRIEND SAID THE DEP STANFORD DON'T EXPECT PROTECTION. NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE LIST OF ALL OF THE BENEFICIAL OWNERS IN THIS PROJECT. COULD WE PLEASE ASK FOR? AND ALSO, I WENT TO LOOK UP ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE, THE BACKUP FOR THIS MATERIAL AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE WI-FI IS NOT WORKING AND I HAVE A HOTSPOT ON MY CELL PHONE.

IT'S SLOW BECAUSE WE ARE IN A BAD CELL ZONE WASN'T ABLE TO VIEW THE BACKUP ON THE COMPUTER SO I WENT TO THE VESTIBULE AND LO AND BEHOLD, THE BACKUP BOOK THAT YOU ALL GET AND THAT THE PUBLIC USED TO GET UNDER THE PRIOR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR USED TO BE LIKE THIS.

IT'S A REALLY THIN BOOK IN THE BACK. AND THIS ITEM HAS NO BACKUP, JUST A ONE PAGE SUMMARY. SO ONCE AGAIN, AS DANIEL PATRICK MONAHAN SAID SECRECY IS FOR LOSERS. COULD YOU PLEASE DIRECT THE STAFF TO PUT A BACKUP BOOK IN

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TO KNOCK IT OFF? THANK YOU. >> FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, PLEASE COME FORWARD. NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE WE WILL

CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSE, WE WILL MOVE IT BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> MR. DEAN: AND PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. FIRST, LET ME THINK THE APPLICANT AND NORTHROP GRUMMAN FOR WORKING SO WELL TOGETHER AND SORT OF A CREATIVE WAY TO ENTER INTO THAT AGREEMENT WHICH DEALS WITH MAKING SURE THAT THE APPLICANT'S ACTIVITIES IN THE FUTURE DON'T IMPACT THE TESTING SINCE NORTHROP GRUMMAN IS ONE OF OUR LARGEST MANUFACTURERS AND EMPLOYERS. I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE KAREN TAYLOR AND THE REPRESENTATIVES WORK WELL TOGETHER TO SOLVE WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM. SO GOOD WORK ON THEIR PART.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2020 TWO APPROVE REZONING 2019-08 START LN.

REZONING BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT. >> SECOND.

>> HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES 5 TO 0.

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>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION CYNTHIA MAY WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

THIS IS A MAJOR MODIFICATION APPLICATION TO THE BARTRAM PARK PUD.

THE SITE IS LOCATED ON RACETRACK ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE.

IT IS EAST OF I-95 AND THE SITE IS LOCATED ON BOTH SIDES OF BARTRAM SPRINGS PKWY., DUBOIS COUNTY LINE IS TO THE NORTH. IT HAS A FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. AND IT IS A PUD WITH OR ZONING ACROSS THE STREET.

THIS REQUEST FOR MAJOR MODIFICATION OF THE BARTRAM PARK ALSO BARTRAM SPRINGS PUD IS TO ALLOW THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR OFF-SITE CONSUMPTION.

IN 2018 THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY APPROVED A MINOR MODIFICATION THAT SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED PJ'S PACKAGE LIQUOR STORE TO HAVE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES WITH A DRIVE THROUGH AND NO ON PREMISE CONSUMPTION. THAT APPROVAL WAS SPECIFIC TO THAT LOCATION ONLY. THE LIQUOR STORE IS PROPOSING TO MOVE TO A NEW LOCATION WITHIN BARTRAM SPRINGS AND SO NOW THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO THE ENTIRE PUD AND ADD ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AS A PERMITTED USE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SHOPPING CENTER. THE PUD TAX DOES PERMIT RETAIL STORES, NEIGHBORHOOD CONVENIENCE STORES AND RESTAURANTS. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DEFINES A LIQUOR STORE OR PACKAGE STORE AS AN ESTABLISHMENT ENGAGED IN THE RETAIL SALE OF PACKAGED ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES.

AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES OTHER THAN MALT LIQUOR AND WINE ARE SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND IT SPECIFICALLY ADHERING TO THE CONDITIONS AND LIMITATIONS CONTAINED THEREIN. THIS IS THE APPROVED MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN SITE PLAN FOR BARTRAM SPRINGS THE CURRENT LOCATION OF THE PJ'S LIQUOR STORE ON THE WEST SIDE OF BARTRAM SPRINGS PARKWAY. AND THE SITE WILL BE DEVELOPING OUTDOOR ON THE EAST. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE AREA TO THE NORTH IS A VERY LARGE WETLAND AREA. THIS MAP DEPICTS THAT 1000 FOOT LINE, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THEY MUST MEET IS THEY MUST BE 1000 FEET FROM A CHURCH OR SCHOOL.

THE CLOSEST SCHOOL IS THE BARTRAM SPRINGS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THAT THOUSAND FEET. MAJOR MODIFICATIONS CAN BE GRANTED WHEN THEY APPROVE Ã THEY PROVE THERE'S NOT A SUBSTANTIAL DETRIMENT TO THE PUBLIC GRID AND WITHOUT SUBSTANTIALLY IMPAIRING THE INTENT OR PURPOSE OF THE CONFERENCE A PLANE OR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. PROVING THAT THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND WILL NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA OR ADJACENT

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THERE WAS NO PUBLIC COMMENT OR ANY DISCUSSION WITH THE AGENCY. STAFF IS NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE REGARDING THE MAJOR MODIFICATION APPLICATION. WE FIND THAT IT SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND DO NOT OBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST FOR MODIFICATION. THERE ARE SIX FINDINGS OF FACT.

72 RECOMMEND. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION I AM AVAILABLE FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE A

PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU. BEFORE WE DO ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, WE WILL DO EXPERT TOBY WILL START WITH YOU COMMISSIONER JOHNS.

>> MR. JOHNS: NO, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON? NONE

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> NONE. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> NONE. >> MR. SMITH: I HAVE NONE AS WELL.

WE WILL NOW HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. >> GOOD MORNING.

I AM JAMES WHITEHOUSE WITH ST. JOHN'S LAW GROUP. 104 MAIN ST. IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.AS MS. MAY TOLD YOU WE ARE ASKING FOR MAJOR MODIFICAION. JUST TO ALLOW THE OFF-SITE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES THROUGHOUT THIS COMMERCIAL AREA.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED LAST YEAR BY YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY TO ALLOW IT IN ONE PARTICULAR SPOT. AS THE COMMERCIAL AIR PUD HAS DEVELOPED HERE THEY HAVE ÃTHIS SPOT HAS TO MOVE FROM THAT PARTICULAR SPOT WITHIN THE AREA.

IT WAS FOUND BY A PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY IN 2018. WE WENT TO PLANNING AND AGENCY AND WENT WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE JUSTIFICATIONS AND REASONING AS WELL AND HAD THE RECOMMENDATION TO YOU. I CAN GO ON FURTHER ABOUT IT BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER

QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS? WE WILL NOW OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

MR. CHAIRMAN NOT SEEING ANYONE COMING FORWARD WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM

NUMBER 3. >> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT NOW CLOSE WE WILL OPEN IT UP BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY DISCUSSION OR I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. COMMISSIONER JOHNS?

>> MR. JOHNS: I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2020 ÃTWO MAJOR MOD 2019 Ã07 A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO THE BARTRAM PARK PUD ORDINANCE 2001 Ã03 AS AMENDED TO ALLOW FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR OFF-SITE CONSUMPTION AS DEFINED WITHIN THE ST. JOHNS

COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE BASIL SIX FINDINGS OF FACT. >> SECOND

>> HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOHNS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES 4 TO 1. THANK YOU AND

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>> I HAVE NO RECORD OF ANY MEETINGS OR RECOLLECTION OF ANY MEETINGS ON THIS MATTER.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN >> NOR DO I >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER

>> SAME >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS? >> NONE,

>> I HAVE NOT AS WELL >> GOOD MORNING. MEGAN KUEHNE HE PRESENTNG ITEM AGENDA NUMBER FOUR MAJOR MODIFICATION 20 1908 PARKWAY PLACE PUD.

THE REQUEST IS FOR A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO THE PARKWAY PLACE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

ORDINANCE 20 1849. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL MAP THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF RACETRACK ROAD AND EAST OF ST. JOHN'S PARKWAY. THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING THIS MAJOR MODIFICATION TO THE PARKWAY PLACE PUD TO OFFICE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS FOR 120,000 SQUARE FEET TO 130,000 SQUARE FEET. I PROPOSE MODIFICATION SEEKS TO UPDATE THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PARKWAY PLACE PLANNED USE DEVELOPMENT TO ACCOMMODATE THE REVISED SITE LAYOUT WHICH MAY REFLECT CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS.

JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND IN 2018 PCC APPROVED PUD 20 1714 ORDINANCE 2018.9.

SPECIFICALLY FOR 120,000 SQUARE FEET TO COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.

LIMITED THE USES IN THE GENERAL BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AND OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL USES. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE ANY WETLANDS AND THERE WOULD BE NO RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN THE PUD WITH AN ALLOWABLE [INDISCERNIBLE] THE PREVIOUS PLAN DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTED THE INTENSITY OF THE

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THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION WILL NOT RESULT IN CHANGES IN PUD ACREAGE DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA WILL MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR OPEN SPACE GENERAL GREEN SPACE AND REQUIRED BUFFERS. HERE IS THE APPROVED MAP THAT WAS APPROVED WITH THE PUD ORDINANCE 2018 29. HERE IS A PROPOSED UPDATED NDP MAP WHICH ALSO INCLUDES THE INCREMENTAL NDP THAT STAFF HAS RECEIVED INCLUDING A GAS STATION RETAIL AND STORAGE Ã SELF STORAGE AT THIS TIME. NO ADDITIONAL WAIVERS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED.

THERE ARE SIX WAIVERS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TO REMAIN. THE PUD FRONTS TO MAJOR ROAD ST. JOHN'S PARKWAY AND RACETRACK ROAD TO THE WEST AND NORTH.

THE PROPERTY IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE EAST AS A JA EASEMENT THAT'S APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES AND THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH IS USED FOR TIMBERLAND AND MINING.

THE INCREASE INTENSITY DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE COMPATIBILITY TYPE ISSUES.

ADDITIONAL 10,000 SQUARE FEET DOES NOT APPEAR TO ADVERSELY IMPACT THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE INCREASE IN INTENSITY DOES NOT APPEAR TO CHANGE THE OVERALL LAYOUT PROPOSED PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THEN APPROXIMATE INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT WILL INCREASE FROM 16,216 SQUARE FEET TO APPROXIMATELY 17,500 SQUARE FEET PER ACRE.

STAFF RECEIVED INQUIRIES FROM TWO INDIVIDUALS THROUGH EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS ABOUT THE REQUEST OF MAJOR MODIFICATION APPLICATION. THE APPLICANT ALSO HOSTED A NORTHWEST SECTOR COMMUNITY MEETING DECEMBER 4, 2019. THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY HEARD THIS ITEM ON THE DECEMBER 19, 2019 REGULAR MEETING ABOUT 7 TO 02 RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REZONING ÃSORRY ÃMAJOR MODIFICATION AS SUBMITTED. THE PUBLIC COMMENT WAS PROVIDED. STAFF FIND THE REQUEST SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COOPERATIVE PLAN OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO APPROVAL OF MAJOR MOD 20 1908. STAFF PROVIDES SIX FINDINGS OF FACT TO SUPPORT A MISSION.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THE APPLICANT IS PRESIDENT AND I WILL STAND BY FOR ANY

QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING THAT WE WILL HEAR FROM

THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU. I WILL START OFF 2020 ON A LIGHT NOTE AND SAY I WILL FORGO MY PRESENTATION BECAUSE YOU HAVE A PACKED AGENDA TODAY. I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. SHE DID A GREAT JOB OF SUMMARIZING THE APPLICATION AND IF YOU READ YOUR COMMUNITY MEETING NOTES YOU WILL SEE THAT THE RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA ARE READY TO HAVE MORE COMMERCIAL AND JOBS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. SO WE ARE TRYING TO BRING

THOSE. >> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. SMITH?

>> SEEING NONE ÃTHANK YOU. I WILL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> AT THIS TIME MR. CHAIRMAN NOT SEEING ANYONE COME FORWARD WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT

>> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSE WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS IF NOT I

WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION >> I AM AN ADVOCATE OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT IS EMBRACED BY THE COMMUNITY AROUND AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT I WILL BE GLAD TO MAKE THE MISSION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2020 Ã3. MAJOR MOD 2019 Ã08 PARKWAY PLACE PUD MAJOR MODIFICATION TO THE PARKWAY PLACE PUD ORDINANCE 2018 Ã492 ALLOW AN INCREASE IN THE PERMITTED COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS 120,000 SQUARE FEET TO 130,000 SQUARE

FEET BASED ON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT. >> SECOND

>> HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING THAT, PLEASE VOTE. AND THIS PASSES 5 TO 0. THANK

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AND IF THERE'S ANY DISCLOSURES THAT NEED TO BE MADE NOW IS THE TIME TO DO SO.

>> NON-ÁCUSTOMÁ COMMISSIONER WALDRON >> NON-ÁCUSTOMÁ COMMISSIONER

JOHNS >> NOT >> I HAVE NONE AS WELL.

MS. STOOPS, GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. VALERIE STUDENTS PRESENTING COMPANION ITEMS 5 AND 6 REZONING 2019, 21 AND NON-ZONING VARIANCE 2019 Ã11 TAYLOR RESUME. THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 3.67 ACRES FROM OPEN WORLD TO RESIDENTIAL MOBILE HOME FOR SINGLE-FAMILY TO ACCOMMODATE FOR CONSTRUCTION OF TWO SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF OLD MOULTRIE ROAD SOUTH OF KINGS STATE AND JUST SOUTH OF POINSETTIA ROAD. THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY JUST OFF OF POINSETTIA. EACH OF THE TWO SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ARE PROPOSED ON THEIR OWN 0.64 ACRE LOT. THE EXISTING MOBILE HOME WHAT OCCUPIED THE REMAINING 2.11 ACRES. THIS IS THE ZONING MAP SHOWING

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THE SURROUNDING AREA OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS COMPRISED LARGELY OF SINGLE-FAMILY AND MOBILE HOMES. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS UNABLE TO ESTABLISH OR EXPAND SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS DESIRED IN THE CURRENT OR ZONING. IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE MULTIPLE FAMILY MEMBERS ON VARYING SIZE LOTS, A SUBDIVISION IS PROPOSED UNDER ZONING DISTRICT DESIGN STANDARDS CAN BE BETTER MET. THIS IS A TABLE OF ALLOWABLE USES SHOWING THE NUMBER OF USE CATEGORIES BEING PRODUCED SHOULD BE RM HS ZONING BE APPROVED.

THIS COMPATIBILITY ANALYSIS CHART SIMPLY SHOWS THE PRESENT AND PROPOSED USES OF THE SURROUNDING LOTS HERE AND MOST OF THEM BEING RESIDENTIAL USES EITHER MOBILE HOME SINGLE-FAMILY OR VACANT. THIS IS A MAP TO MATCH THE PREVIOUS SLIDE SHOWING THE COMPATIBILITY AGAIN WITH SINGLE-FAMILY TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH A VACANT LOT TO THE EAST AND MOBILE HOMES TO THE WEST. STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE OR PHONE CALLS REGARDING THE REQUESTED REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY. ON DECEMBER 5 THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY MADE A 6 TO 0 VOTE UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO THE BOARD.

THE PCA DISCUSSED HOW THE PROPERTY WOULD BE SUBDIVIDED, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A MAP OPTIONS FOR FUTURE SALE OF THE PROPERTY. THE APPLICANT NOTED THAT IT WOULD BE SOLD TO FAMILY AND THEY MAY DO AS THEY WISH AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS Ã THERE WILL BE SUFFICIENT FRONTAGE FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS AND STAFF CONFIRMED THERE WOULD BE. ONE PUBLIC COMMENT WAS MADE REGARDING THE COMPLETION OF POINSETTIA ROAD AND THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDITIONAL MOBILE HOMES BEING PROPOSED.

THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO BUILD SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF REZONING 1921 TAYLOR REZONE. STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMP PLAN AND THE LDC FOR FINDINGS OF FACT ARE PROVIDED TO SUPPORT A MOTION. I WILL CONTINUE ON TO NON-ZONING VARIANCE 1911 Ã TAYLOR REZONE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IN A PLATTED SUBDIVISION. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS SEEKING FOR THE DIVISION TO BUILD TWO SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. ONE HOME TO BE ON EACH LOT CREATED.

THE EASEMENT ACCESS TO A PUBLIC ROADWAY IS ONLY PERMITTED FOR MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL AND FOR NON-PLATTED SUBDIVISIONS. REPLANTING IS REQUIRED WHEN RE-DIVIDING A PLATTED SUBDIVISION. THE SPECIFIC REQUEST IS TO LDC SECTION JUNE 2, 2001 T3A TWO ALLOW FOR AN EASEMENT TO ACCESS THE PUBLIC ROADWAY FROM A PLATTED LOT.

AND TO ALLOW RELIEF FROM PLANTING REQUIREMENTS FOR A PREVIOUSLY PLATTED SUBDIVISION.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS PLATTED. THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP AGAIN SHOWING IT IS THE SAME SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR BOTH APPLICATIONS. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED OR AT APPROXIMATELY 3 1/2 ACRES AND THERE IS AN EXISTING MOBILE HOME ON SITE. TO MAINTAIN THAT EXISTING MOBILE HOME AND ADD SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES WE HAVE Ã THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO RESUME TO RM HS SO THAT BOTH OF THE HOME TYPES WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE. THE RMHS ZONING DISTRICT WAS THE PREFERRED ZONING DISTRICT BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR LDC JUNE 1, 2001 THEY WOULD BETTER BE ACCOMMODATED FOR THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS RATHER THAN THE CURRENT ZONING OF OR.

SUBDIVIDED THE PROPERTY TO CREATE TWO ADDITIONAL LOTS FOR EACH OF THE PROPOSED SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES WOULD NORMALLY REQUIRE BLUE PLOTTING BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION AND ACCESS EASEMENT WOULD ALSO BE NEEDED. IF BOTH APPLICATIONS ARE APPROVED AND NON-ZONING VARIANCE APPLICATION WOULD RELIEVE THE APPLICANT FROM THE REQUIRED RATE PLOTTING AND ALLOW AN EASEMENT TO ACCESS A PUBLIC ROAD FROM THE NEWLY CREATED RMH LOTS. THE APPLICANT 25 FINDINGS PER SECTION 1004 OF THE CODE.

THE LAND TO BE REPLANTED IS CAPABLE OF SUSTAINING TWO NEW HOMES WERE FAMILY MEMBERS AND IS OTHERWISE INACCESSIBLE WITHOUT THE EASEMENT. NUMBER TWO, THIS LOT IS NOT MERELY TO REDUCE THE COST AS THE EASEMENT WILL ALLOW THE PROPERTY TO MAINTAIN ITS REQUIRED LOT WITH AND NUMBER THREE, THE REQUEST WILL NOT INCREASE CONGESTION NOR WILL IT HAVE DANGER OF FIRE OR ANY OTHER HAZARD TO THE PUBLIC. NUMBER FOUR THIS WILL NOT DIMINISH VALUES NOR ALTER THE CHARACTER OF THE SITE AND FINALLY NUMBER FIVE, THE APPLICANT STATES THEY ARE DOING THEIR BEST TO ENSURE THEY ARE WITHIN THE GUIDELINES AND INTENT OF THE CODE. STAFF IS NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE COMPANION ITEM ZONING VARIANCE AS WELL REGARDING THE REQUESTED REZONING FOR THE NON-ZONING

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THERE ARE FIVE CONDITIONS IN SIX FINDINGS OF FACT TO SUPPORT EMOTION.

THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FORM STAFF? SEE NON- DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY?

>> HE SAYS HE DOES NOT HAVE ANY COMMENTS. >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT UP ON AGENA ITEMS NUMBER 5 AND 6. PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 5 AND 6. PLEASE COME FORWARD. MR. CHAIRMAN NOT SEEING ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU. WITH PUBLIC COMMENT NOW CLOSE WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE MADE? IF NOT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.> I MAKE A MOTION TO ENACT

>> IT WILL BE A 4. >> REZONING TAYLOR REZONE REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 3.67 ACRES OF LAND FROM OPEN WORLD TO RESIDENTIAL MANUFACTURED MOBILE HOME OR

SINGLE-FAMILY OR RMHS BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT >> SECOND

>> OF A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE ON

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5. THE PASSES 5 TO 0. NUMBER 6? >> I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE NON-ZONING VARIANCE 2019 Ã11 TAYLOR REZONE A REQUEST FOR A NON-ZONING VARIANCE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 6.02.01 POINT BE .3 POINT A TO ALLOW FOR AN EASEMENT TO ACCESS A PUBLIC ROADWAY IN SECTION 5.01.01 POINT SEE TO ALLOW RELIEF ROM THE PLANNING REQUIREMENTS FOR IMPROVEMENTS BASED UPON FIVE CONDITIONS AND SIX FINDINGS OF FACT AS

PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?EEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

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ITEM NUMBER 7. MR. CONRAD? >> JUST ONE COMMENT.

ON MAC, THAT IS REALLY A FAMILY FARM THAT WAS ALLOWABLE BACK IN THE 80S WITH WATER LAND

DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THAT'S WHY HE VOTED FOR IT. >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS ON THE DECEMBER LAST SCHEDULED MEETING YOU ALL DIRECTED MYSELF AND STAFF TO PROVIDE A REPORT ON AN OPTION FOR A NATIONAL SEARCH. THIS MORNING I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE FOUR OPTIOS TO FACILITATE THE SEARCH OF THE BOARD SO CHOOSES.

SO THIS IS JUST A QUICK INTRODUCTION AS TO THE NATIONAL SEARCH.

IT IS ESTIMATED IT WILL TAKE BETWEEN SIX AND NINE MONTHS, DEPENDING ON WHICH OPTION YOU CHOOSE.HE 6 TO 9 MONTHS WILL BE THE RECRUITMENT AND OBVIOUSLY THERE WILL BE ONBOARDING PEACE THAT WOULD POCCUR OUTSIDE OF THAT 6 TO 9 MONTHS.

THAT PROCESS INCLUDES ADVERTISEMENT EVALUATION AND CANDIDATE NEGOTIATION ONBOARDING SUCH AS REFERENCE COULD REQUIRE UP TO AN ADDITIONAL THREE MONTHS.

DEPENDING ON THE SELECTED METHOD COSTS CAN INCLUDE ADVERTISING PROFESSIONAL RECRUITMENT SERVICES STAFF TIME CANDIDATE TRAVEL COMMUNITY RECEPTION ETC. THERE WAS LAST YEAR I BELIEVE THIS WAS BROUGHT TO LAST YEAR IN SEPTEMBER PREVIOUSLY AND PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION DID ALLOCATE $50,000 IN FISCAL YEAR'S 2020 BUDGET FOR THIS RESEARCH.

HERE ARE YOUR FOUR OPTIONS. YOU CAN HAVE PERSONAL SERVICES TO STAFF CONDUCT THAT RECRUITMENT. YOU CAN HAVE THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY MANAGERS RECRUITMENT SERVICE. THEY WOULD PARTNER WITH STAFF. I WILL GET INTO IT IN A MINUTE.

BASICALLY THEY PROVIDE FOR A FEE AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF OVERSIGHT IN THAT PROCESS AND THEN THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF RFP. ONE IS AN INFORMAL REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR A PROFESSIONAL RECRUITMENT FIRM. THE SECOND IS A FORMAL REQUEST FOR A PROFESSIONAL RECRUITMENT FIRM. AGAIN, THOSE ARE PROPOSALS TO ACQUIRE A RECRUITMENT SERVICE IN THIS PROCESS. SO AS I FIRST INDICATED YOU

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IT COULD VARY INSIDE OF THE 10 TO 20,000. APPROXIMATELY SIX WEEKS FOR THAT PROCESS IF STAFF WERE TO BEGIN THAT TODAY. YOUR SECOND OPTION FOR A NATIONAL SEARCH WOULD BE CONDUCTED ON BASE WITH THE FIRST OPTION.

THIS IS WHERE THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY MANAGERS WOULD WORK WITH STAFF TO FACILITATE THAT REQUEST. I AM GOING TO FAST-FORWARD YOU DOWN TO THE FOURTH THING WHICH IS IMPORTANT. THE COST IS A $7500 FLAT FEE THAT'S WHAT THEY PROVIDE.

NO ADDITIONAL COST FROM THEM THAT HAVE BEEN INDICATED TO US PLUS THE $10-$20,000.

THE SERVICE THEY PROVIDE IS INSTEAD OF US OR STAFF CONDUCTING AN INTERVIEW PANEL OF ACM WOULD PULL APPLICANTS OR WOULD CONDUCT A PANEL TO DO A PEER REVIEW COMMITTEE IN ORDER TO LOOK AT THAT. THEY ALSO PROVIDE SOME INITIAL GUIDANCE ON RECRUITMENT AND WOULD MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO STAFF TO BE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU ALL TO DETERMINE WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO BE LOOKING AT TO EVALUATE. THEN YOU HAVE AN INFORMAL RFP WHICH WOULD BE USED IN ACQUIRING A RECRUITMENT FIRM AND I WILL WALK THROUGH THIS WITH YOU. A DEVELOPMENT ÃTHERE IS RFP DEVELOPMENT SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT INCLUDED IN THE RECRUITMENT FIRM AS PART OF THE PROCESS.

A BROADCAST. AND WE USE THE TERM BROADCAST. SO YOU DON'T GET CONFUSED WITH BROADCAST. VERSUS ADVERTISEMENT PERIOD. IN A FORMAL RFP THERE IS A REQUIRED STATUTORY POLICY GUIDED ADVERTISING PERIOD. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BROADCAST. AND ADVERTISING. IN THE INFORMAL VERSUS FORMAL.

THIS PROVIDES THE ABILITY TO EVALUATE MULTIPLE RESPONSES AND SELECTION OF THE OPTIMAL EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM. IT PROVIDES BROADCAST TO A WIDE VARIETY OF VENDORS THE SELECTION OF THE FIRM WOULD BE BASED ON FACTORS IDENTIFIED BY THE BOARD INCLUDING EXPERIENCE OF THE FIRM APPROACHED BY THE FIRM AND ADVERTISING PLAN BY THE FIRM SCHEDULE AND COST OF THE FIRM. DOES NOT REQUIRE FORMAL EVALUATION OF RESPONSES SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SCORE TOGETHER AND SO THIS IS REALLY THE BIG DIFFERENCE BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU TO THE FORMAL RFP BUT EVERYTHING WILL BE THE SAME WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THIS BULLET POINT. IT DOES NOT REQUIRE FORMAL EVALUATION OF RESPONSES OR THAT 30 DAY ADVERTISEMENT PERIOD. THOSE OF THE BIG DIFFERENCES BETWEEN DOING AN INFORMAL RFP FOR A SEARCH FORM AND AN INFORMAL RFP. YOU HAVE EXPEDITED DEVELOPMENT ADVERTISEMENT AND REVIEW. THE COST IS $25-$50,000 FOR RECRUITMENT FIRM PLUS OTHER EXPENSES AND IN THE TIMEFRAME YOU ARE LOOKING AT 6 TO 7 MONTHS FOR THE RFP AND THEN AFTER THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THE RFP AND RECRUITMENT AND AFTER THAT YOU HAVE THE ONBOARDING PROCESS. ONE THING I WANT TO KNOW ÃI'M GOING TO GO HERE TO THE NEXT ONE. IT IS ALL THE SAME EXCEPT FOR THE ONE BULLET POINT.

THE COST IS 25,000 TO 50,000 FOR THE RECRUITMENT FIRM IS OBVIOUSLY DEPENDING ON HOW THE RFP IS STRUCTURED. YOU COULD HAVE ALL OF THE ADVERTISING INSIDE OF THAT RFP WHERE THEY SAY WE ARE GOING TO PAY ÃTHAT FIRM IS GOING TO PAY FOR RECRUITMENT, ADVERTISING, TRAVEL FOR THE CANDIDATE OR THEY COULD PUT OUTSIDE UP. YOU WILL SEE $10-$20,000 FOR OTHER RELATED EXPENSES. THOSE EXPENSES WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON HOW THE RECRUITMENT FIRM STRUCTURES THEIR RFP OR HOW THE BOARD STRUCTURED THE RFP AND RECRUITMENT FIRMS RESPOND. IT IS TO GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE IS THE MOST RECENT EXAMPLE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY. CLAYTON COUNTY HIRED A RECRUITMENT FIRM AT $26,000.

WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT WAS THEY INCLUDED OTHER UNRELATED EXPENSES WAS THAT JUST WITH THE RECRUITMENT FIRM? DID EXPENSES GO INTO THAT OR DO THEY HAVE SEPARATE EXPENSES BUT WE CAN TELL YOU THERE WAS A $26,000 COST TO CLAYTON COUNTY IN THEIR SEARCH IN 2017.

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IT'S A FLAT FEE TO HELP FACILITATE AND GUIDE THE PERSONNEL SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND THEN YOU HAVE AN INFORMAL RFP AT A FORMAL RFP AND DETERMINING WHAT RECRUITMENT FIRM YOU WOULD WANT TO USE. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> MR. DEAN: 100 PERCEN SURE WHEN OR HOW TO BRING THIS UP, BECAUSE THIS ITEM IS TO DISCUSS CHOICES O OPTIONS FOR GOING FORWARD WITH IMPROVEMENT. I AM COMPELLED TO TELL EACH OF YOU THIS MORNING THAT I HAD AN EXTENSIVE AND DETAILED AND VERY, VERY POSITIVE DISCUSSION WITH HUNTER CONRAD LAST WEDNESDAY FOLLOWING THE COMMISSION BRIEFING.

WE HAD A VERY FRANK DISCUSSION. AND HE HAD EXPRESSED TO ME THAT HE IS VERY MUCH ENJOYING THE ROLE AS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. THAT HE IS IN ALL THE WAY AND WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN THE PERMANENT POSITION. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR THE LAST SIX WEEKS OR SO, I HAVE BECOME MORE AND MORE IMPRESSED MYSELF PERSONALLY WITH HUNTER CONRAD FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.

HE IS INTELLIGENT, HE'S ALSO STREETSMART. AND HE KNOWS THIS COUNTY LIKE THE BACK OF HIS HAND, AND HE HAS MADE CONTACTS AND RELATIONS WITH THE STAFF VERY QUICKLY.

I HAVE HAD FEEDBACK FROM STAFF. THE REASON I AM BRINGING IT UP THIS MORNING IS WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION, HUNTER AND I, AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF HIS DESIRE TO TAKE CARE OF HIS FAMILY, ALL OF YOU KNOW HE HAS FOUR YOUNG CHILDREN, AND ALL BOYS ÃAND THAT HE IS IN A POSITION WHERE HE NEEDS TO MAKE A DECISION. AND IF WE GO FORWARD, WITH A NATIONWIDE SEARCH, THEN HUNTER HAS TOLD ME HE IS JUST NOT IN A POSITION TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION AND BE PART OF THAT THREE, SIX, NINE MONTH SEARCH BECAUSE HE HAS OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE THAT HE NEEDS TO CHOOSE, AND HIS FAMILY IS PARAMOUNT.

I RESPECT THAT AS MY FAMILY AND I'M SURE YOURS IS PARAMOUNT. WE ARE AT SORT OF A FORK IN THE ROAD. AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO DISCUSS IT WITH EACH OF YOU BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY DISCUSS THESE ITEMS IN PUBLIC. SO I AM HERE SORT AS TO SAY BEFORE WE GO INTO ANY GREAT DETAIL ABOUT THE, QUOTE, SEARCH I AM PERSONALLY IN A POSITION TO STRONGLY RECOMMEND HUNTER CONRAD AS OUR PERMANENT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

HE IS HONEST, HE KNOWS THE COUNTY, HE IS SMART, HE IS DEDICATED AND ALSO HAD A DISCUSSION WITH HIM ABOUT THE CHAIN OF COMMAND. AND AS A MILITARY MAN, HUNTER UNDERSTANDS CHAIN OF COMMAND. HE UNDERSTANDS THAT THE STAFF CARRIES IT OUT.

I HAD THAT SPECIFIC DISCUSSION WITH HIM BECAUSE I SPENT MANY YEARS IN GOVERNMENT SERVING AND I UNDERSTAND IT WAS MY JOB TO FURNACE AND THEN TAKE INSTRUCTIONS AND HE UNDERSTANDS THAT. AND I AM VERY FRANKLY GRATEFUL THAT WE HAPPEN TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE IN MY OPINION AS A COMMISSION THIS SORT OF DROP IN OUR LAP, BUT I CAN TELL YOU BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE AND GOING THROUGH THE SELECTION PROCESSES FROM MANAGERS, COUNTY MANAGERS, CITY MANAGERS, WATER MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR POSITIONS THAT AS GOOD AS WE CAN DO IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK OUT THAT WAY. AND I CAN GIVE YOU SPECIFIC EXAMPLES, BUT I DON'T THINK I REALLY NEED TO. SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE HAD SIMILAR EXPERIENCES. AND SO WHAT I AM TELLING YOU THIS MORNING IS THAT WE HAVE THE BEST CANDIDATE IN MY OPINION FOR THIS POSITION. IT'S THE RIGHT TIME AND IT'S THE RIGHT PLACE AND I HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE THAT HUNTER CONRAD CAN LEAVE THIS STAFF AND TAKE OUR DIRECTION AND MAKE THIS COUNTY EVEN BETTER THAN IT IS TODAY.

SO BEFORE WE CONTINUE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SEARCH, I AM PREPARED TO LISTEN TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE MR. CONRAD AS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.F I MAY, MR. CONRAD, IF I UNDERSTOOD OUR DISCUSSION LAST WEDNESDAY, YOU CERTAINLY ARE IN A POSITION THAT IF WE MADE A CREDIBLE OFFER TO YOU FOR THE PERMANENT POSITION THAT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT.

>> YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT IF THIS BOARD WERE TO ASK ME TODAY JUST AS I SAID TO YOU IN DECEMBER, I WOULD BE WILLING TO SERVE READY AND ABLE AND TO REITERATE OUR

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I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY WHETHER THAT EXTENDS TO BEYOND TODAY OR NOT

I'M APPRECIATIVE BUT I'M READY, WILLING, AND ABLE. >> AND YOU ALSO INDICATED TO ME, I BELIEVE, THAT YOU CERTAINLY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR THIS PERMANENT POSITION TO SERVE TWO, THREE, FOUR YEARS AS A STEPPINGSTONE TO A HIGHER POSITION WITH EITHER A LARGER COUNTY OR ANOTHER JURISDICTION, THAT YOUR COMMITMENT IS TO THIS COUNTY.

KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW TODAY, I MEAN, SOME THINGS CAN CHANGE. BUT IS THAT A GENERAL

REFLECTION OF OUR DISCUSSION? >> YES, SIR, IT IS. AS ALWAYS, THINGS DO CHANGE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU NOW, I BELIEVE I HAVE SAID THIS, I HAVE ZERO INTEREST IN BEING A TRAVELING COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS MY HOME I WAS APPOINTED AS CLERK SEVERAL YEARS AGO I WAS A PROSECUTOR THE PUTNAM COUNTY AND AM RAISING MY FAMILY HERE.

THE PARENTS ARE HERE MY SISTER AND HER HUSBAND ARE HERE. THE PEOPLE THAT I GO TO AND ATTEND CHURCH WITH FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS ARE HERE. THAT'S MY FAMILY AND I HAVE NO INTENT TO GO ANYWHERE FROM HERE. IF ASKED BY THIS BOARD, MY INTENT IS TO STAY HERE AS LONG AS THIS COURT WILL HAVE ME. ERTAINLY SUBJECT TO EVERY TWO

WEEK REVIEW >> COMMISSIONERS, I WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO HEAR FROM EACH OF YOU AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, BUT YOU CERTAINLY HEARD MY POSITION AND I AM PREPARED TO GO FORWARD WITH A MOTION, IF THE INVOCATION IS THAT THAT IS WHAT THE GENERAL INTENT OR

CONSENSUS IS OF EACH OF YOU. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. >> MR. BLOCKER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CONRAD, I ECHO MANY OF THE SENTIMENTS COMMISSIONER DEAN POINTED OUT. YOU ARE A TESTED INDIVIDUAL. YOU'VE BEEN HERE IN OFFICE AND ALMOST 5 YEARS. AS AN ATTORNEY I HAVE HAD EXPOSURE TO YOUR AGENCY.

YOU CAME IN AND MADE IMPORTANT CHANGES AT THAT AGENCY THAT CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICE, AND I THINK THE LEGAL COMMUNITY WAS IMPRESSED BY THAT. SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN HERE, WE NEED TO GET BACK TO THE RULE OF LAW AND BACK TO WE ARE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE AND THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY ELECTED US TO MAKE DECISIONS, THE STAFF HAS TO SUPPORT THAT.

THAT'S WHAT I EXPECT. AND I EXPECT PEOPLE TO SHOW UP WITH THE RIGHT ATTITUDE AND THE RIGHT UNIFORM AT THE RIGHT TIME AND YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT TO ME.

THIS IS VERY SERIOUS. YOU KNOW, MY FAMILY, YOUR FAMILY, AND THE MEN AND WOMEN IN THIS ROOM TODAY, OUR FAMILIES LIVE HERE, THEY WERE CARE, THE GO TO SCHOOL HERE.

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO CAPTURE THE INITIATIVE AND TO MAKE SURE WE BRING POSITIVE CHANGE TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT. TRANSPARENCY AND THE RULE OF LAW THAT WE ALL ASPIRE TO.

I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO THAT. I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK THAT AS A BOARD, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO TAKE TREMENDOUS STRIDES GOING FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY CONTINUES TO BE THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE, TO WORK, TO RAISE A FAMILY. WE HAVE SOME IMPORTANT CHALLENGES COMING FORWARD. DO YOU FEEL YOU'RE UP TO THOSE CHALLENGES?

>> YES, SIR. >> MR. BLOCKER: LET ME SPEAK TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS.

I THINK A NATIONWIDE SEARCH ÃI REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE GONE TO THIS RECENTLY AND THE INPUT THAT I HAVE GOTTEN IS THAT A NATIONWIDE SEARCH IS NOT PRODUCTIVE. THERE IS A COST TO THAT AND A TIME TO THAT AND ALSO ON GOING TO SEND A MESSAGE WE DON'T TRUST THE TALENT THAT WE HAVE. OU AND I HAD A CONVERSATION, MR. CONRAD AND I HAD A CONVERSATION. I ASKED YOU IF YOU HAD THE WILL TO WIN THE ABILITY TO SHOW UP AT THE RIGHT TIME IN THE RIGHT UNIFORM AT THE RIGHT ATTITUDE AND DO THE JOB AND YOU INDICATED TO ME THAT YOU DID. AND I TRUST THAT.

AND I THINK THAT YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED SOME TOUGH DECISIONS.

IT'S HARD TO COME INTO THIS ENVIRONMENT AND MAKE POSITIVE CHANGES.

ARE YOU WILLING TO CARRY FORWARD AND CONTINUE TO DO THAT?

>> YES, SIR. >> ARE YOU WILLING TO MAKE THOSE TOUGH DECISIONS?

>> YES. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. HAVING HER BACK, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AS A BOARD TO WAY THAT. I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT CANDIDATE IN FRONT OF US HERE. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT HIS FAMILY CONCERNS AND HE'S RAISING FOR YOUNG KIDS. HE HAS TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR US AS A BOARD TO EVALUATE THIS OPTION BEFORE WE GO ON AND SPEND MONEY AND TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT COULD BE USED IN REPAIRING SIDEWALKS AND TRUST THAT YOU COULD LEAD US AS A COMMUNITY GOING FORWARD. AND THAT IS REALLY A PARTNERSHIP.

THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAVE TO BE PARTNERS WITH THIS BOARD AND WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER. AND WE HAVE TO ADDRESS PROBLEMS THAT COME UP.

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I APPRECIATE YOU REITERATING WILL BE DISCUSSED. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS.

THE PUBLIC IS WATCHING. OUR FAMILIES ARE WATCHING, OUR CHILDREN ARE WATCHING AND WE HAVE TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION. BEFORE WE GO OFF AND DO A NATIONWIDE SEARCH AND DO THIS, I DO FEEL WE HAVE A GREAT CANDIDATE IN FRONT OF US. I FEEL HE BRINGS THE CONFIDENCE IN THE LEADERSHIP THAT I THINK WE WOULD BENEFIT FROM. I WANT TO OFFER MY THOUGHTS ON THAT AND ALSO REAFFIRM HIS COMMITMENT HERE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. LEGAL? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION TODAY, AND I DID WANT TO READ FROM A PORTION OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ORDINANCE. LET ME SAY FROM THE START, NOTHING I AM GOING TO READ IS IN ANY WAY GOING TO INHIBIT Ã AT LEAST A COUPLE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE DISCUSSED SO FAR. MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS. THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SHALL AT A MINIMUM HAVE EARNED A BACHELORS DEGREE IN PUBLIC OR BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION OR RELATED FIELD. FROM AN ACCREDITED COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY AND HAVE AT LEAST FIVE YEARS OF RESPONSIBLE ADMINISTRATIVE EXPERIENCE IN FEDERAL, STATE AND OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT INCLUDING AGENCIES OR THE MILITARY OR IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR OR ANY COMBINATION THEREOF. THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SHALL HAVE EXPERIENCE IN GROWTH MANAGEMENT, PUBLIC UTILITIES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FINANCING AND BUDGETING AND MANAGEMENT OF STAFF. I DID WANT TO POINT OUT ONE OTHER ASPECT FROM THE ORDINANCE I THINK THE BOARD IS FAMILIAR WITH THIS. THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SHALL BE HIRED ON A CONTRACT BASIS ONLY. I DID WANT TO MENTION HERE FIRST OF ALL, THE BACHELOR'S DEGREE, WHICH MR. CONRAD HAS IN ADDITION TO AN ADVANCED DEGREE.

JD. IN FINANCE. SO THAT'S ÃYOU KNOW, PUBLIC OR BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION OR RELATED FIELD AND IN FINANCE, I THINK, WOULD SATISFY THAT.

FROM AN ACCREDITED COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY. AND HAVE AT LEAST FIVE YEARS OF RESPONSIBLE ADMINISTRATIVE EXPERIENCE IN FEDERAL, STATE, AND/OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT INCLUDING AGENCIES OR THE MILITARY OR IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR OR ANY COMBINATION THEREOF. I WOULD SAY, FIRST OF ALL, MR. CONRAD HAS BEEN A STATE ATTORNEY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IN STATE GOVERNMENT, CLERK TO THE BOARD, AND DON'T FORGET, THE CLERK TO THE BOARD ESSENTIALLY MINUTES TO GO THROUGH HERE ALL OF YOUR BUSINESS ITEMS ON THE BOARD GO THROUGH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD. AND I SHOULD SAY BY MY COMMENTS, I AM NOT ADVOCATING OR NOT ADVOCATING FOR THIS PARTICULAR CANDIDATE.

IT IS THE BOARD'S PREROGATIVE WHO TO CHOOSE OR TO ADMINISTRATOR OR ATTORNEY I JUST WISH TO POINT OUT SORT OF YOUR ORDINANCE OF LANGUAGE. IN ADDITION TO THE MILITARY EXPERIENCE AND HAVING SOME EXPERIENCE AND THAT MYSELF, I CAN VOUCH FOR THERE IS BOTH LEADERSHIP MANAGEMENT HEAVILY TRAINING ON THOSE ASPECTS. THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SHALL HAVE EXPERIENCE IN GROWTH MANAGEMENT, PUBLIC UTILITIES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FINANCING, AND BUDGETING, AND MANAGEMENT OF STAFF. AS CLERK TO THE BOARD, AND COMPTROLLER TO THE BOARD EVEN IN THE CLERK'S FUNCTION, VIRTUALLY ALL OF YOUR AGENDA ITEMS IN SOME FORM OR FASHION GO THROUGH THE CLERK IN THOSE CAPACITIES, JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT. NOW, BACK TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SHALL BE HIRED ON THE CONTRACT BASIS ONLY. MR. CONRAD CURRENTLY IS ON A CONTRACT WITH THE BOARD AS AN INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. SHOULD THE BOARD WISH TO GO SORT OF FORWARD WITH THE ÃI THINK THE PREMISE THAT COMMISSIONER DEAN HAD INITIATED, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER HAD SPOKEN ON, I THINK IF THE BOARD GOES FURTHER WITH THAT, THERE SHOULD BE SOME DISCUSSION ON HOW O SORT OF DO THE CONTRACTUAL ASPECT OF THAT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT >> AT THIS TIME THE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA

ITEM NUMBER 7 PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVSEVEN ON. >> I AM BILL DUDLEY I LIVE AT 1072 ALCALA DOCTOR ST. AUGUSTINE. I'M HERE THIS MORNING.

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I HAVE FOUND HIM TO BE A MAN OF PRINCIPLE, A MAN OF STRONG COMMITMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY.

I WOULD CERTAINLY ENDORSE THAT AND RECOMMEND THAT HAVING SPENT A NUMBER OF YEARS IN THE CORPORATE WORLD AND HIRING A LOT OF PEOPLE MYSELF, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FOUND OVER THE YEARS WAS THE BEST QUALITY OF PEOPLE WERE THOSE PEOPLE WHO I ALREADY HAD EMPLOYED WORKING FOR ME.ND PROMOTING THOSE PEOPLE FROM WITHIN AND MOVING THEM UP THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, IF YOU WILL, AND INTO POSITIONS OF HIGHER AUTHORITY, EVEN AT THE EXECUTIVE LEVEL WAS THE PRODUCT OF THE BEST RESULTS IN MY EXPERIENCE OVER THE YEARS. MR. CONRAD HAS MANY FINE ATTRIBUTES. HIS INTEGRITY, HIS STRONG MORAL CHARACTER, HIS PROVEN LEADERSHIP, HIS STRONG CHRISTIAN CHARACTER IS BEYOND REPROACH.

AND AS I SAID, I HAVE KNOWN MR. CONRAD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. I HAVE FOUND HIM TO BE IN EVERY CASE, AND EVERY TIME, IN EVERY INSTANCE THAT I HAVE WORKED WITH HIM A MAN OF STRONG CHARACTER. I SUPPORT THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY MR. DEAN AND MR. BLOCKER THIS MORNING. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS BOARD WOULD DO THE RIGHT THING IN MAKING THIS A PERMANENT POSITION FOR MR. CONRAD IS A ST. JOHNS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> GOOD MORNING. >> MY NAME IS CHRISTIAN WHITEHURST. ST. JOHN'S. AM SPEAKING TODAY AND STRONG SUPPORT OF HUNTER CONRAD'S SELECTION. HE HAS THE ORGANIZATIONAL LEADERSHIP SKILLS TO NOT ONLY PERFORM THE JOB AT EXCEL. HE DEMONSTRATED THIS ONE HE WAS APPOINTED CLERK OF THE COURT AND COMPTROLLER FOR THIS COUNTY IN 2015. LIKE MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT MAINTAIN THE SAME LEADERSHIP, TIME OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS THE CLERK'S OFFICE WAS IN NEED AND HUNTER PROVIDED THAT. HUNTER SHOWED IN THE SHORT TIME THE ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT EFFECTIVE POLICIES AND NEW IDEAS TO THE OFFICE.IN ADDITION AS A CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER DOES HE BUILD GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE PUBLIC BUT THE PUBLIC AND THE STAKEHOLDERS ACROSS THE COUNTY AND THE STATE. HIS SUCCESS IN LEADING THE OFFICE WAS REMARKABLE. INTELLIGIBLY IT'S THE INTERIM. AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER I RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF CASTING A WIDE NET. THE NATIONAL SEARCH ON THE SURFACE SOUNDS INTRIGUING AS IT COULD BRING A VARIETY OF POSSIBLE HIGHLY QUALIFIED AND EXPERIENCED CANDIDATES TO INTERVIEW AND POTENTIALLY SELECT FROM.

HOWEVER I WOULD RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT HE HAS SHOWN AN ABILITY TO BALANCE STAKEHOLDER INTERESTS AND NEEDS. HUNTER BRINGS WHAT AN OUTSIDE HIRE WOULDN'T.

HUNTER UNDERSTANDS THE SEVERAL NUANCES ON WHAT MAKES A COUNTY UNIQUE AND SPECIAL.

THE DIFFERENCE IS OUR BETWEEN HASTINGS AND DOCTOR T JOE MANCHIN CREEK AND THE SHORES AND OUTSIDE HIRE WOULD BE LEARNING THE MAKEUP OF OUR COUNTY FOR SEVERAL YEARS AT A TIME WHEN WE NEED THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO BE FOCUSED ON THE TASK AT HAND.

FURTHER, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS LIKELY THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT, HE IS A TRUSTED AGENT BY YOU IN THE COMMUNITY. WE ALL KNOW HUNTER. WE HAVE KNOWN HIM FOR A LONG TIME AND WE SEE WHO HE IS AND WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF. AND THAT'S IMPORTANT AND HE WILL LIKE THIS. HE IS RIGHT CANDIDATE FOR THIS JOB AND I HOPE YOU APPOINT HIM WITHOUT DELAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> ED SLAVIN BOX 3084, CLEANUP THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE .BLOGSPOT.COM I WAS AFRAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO THIS PICTURE OF VIOLATING THE SUNSHINE. YOU ARE VIOLATING THE TITLE VII OF THE 1964 CIVIL RIGHTS ACT. IT BECAME LAW BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE OF ST. AUGUSTINE IN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO BE ARRESTED TO STAND UP FOR CIVIL RIGHTS.

HE WAS HIRED AS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AT ENRON WITHOUT POSTING WITHOUT ADVERTISING AND NOW YOU COMMISSIONERS ARE PROPOSING TO DO THIS WITHOUT POSTING AND WITHOUT

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TAKE THIS UP ÃTAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA AND GIVE PROPER PUBLIC NOTICE.

BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY SOME PEOPLE DID HAVE NOTICE TO COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE COLLUDED AND VIOLATED SUNSHINE. IT SURE LOOKS LIKE A COBOL IS ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS SAID THE OTHER DAY OR PERHAPS EVEN A CONSCIOUS PARALLELISM. BUT IT'S WRONG.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY WRONG. THIS COUNTY DOES NOT RESPECT DIVERSITY.

RIGHT NOW ST. JOHNS COUNTY UNLIKE ST. AUGUSTINE AND ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH DOES NOT HAVE A POLICY OF NONDISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION OR GENDER IDENTITY.

AND WHAT A NATIONAL SEARCH WOULD DO WOULD BE TOO BRING DIVERSITY INTO THIS JOB.E DON'T HAVE DIVERSITY. THAT MAN RAISED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FROM DEVELOPERS TO RUN FOR CLERK OF COURTS. HE WAS DUPED INTO THE JOB BY GOVERNOR RICHARD LINSCOTT OVER THE CAREER DEPUTY WHO THE COURT COULD SELECT.

AND HE BEAT THE CAREER DEPUTY AND A CLOSE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY IN VIOLATION OF THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION. THEY GET A SHELL. SHERIFF SURE LAST TIME HE RAN HAD TWOSHILLS INCLUDING A MASSAGE THERAPIST WHO WAS A FORMER JAILER.

ALL IT TAKES IS A SHELL TO CLOSE WHICH SHOULD BE A UNIVERSAL PRIMARY UNDER FLORIDA LAW. WHEN THERE ARE TWO CANDIDATES FROM THE SAME PARTY RUNNING FOR AN OFFICE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO GO. SO HE WAS VOTED IN WITH DEVELOPER MONEY AND BY DISENFRANCHISING EVERY SINGLE DEMOCRAT AND EVERY SINGLE NONPARTY AFFILIATE IN PERSON IN THE COUNTY SO NOW YOU ARE GOING TO VIOLATE SUNSHINE TODAY AND DO HIM AND WITHOUT EVEN PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA? MAY I PLEASE SUGGEST COMMISSIONER JOHNS, COMMISSIONER SMITH, COMMISSIONER WALTER, PLEASE MOVE TO TABLE. DON'T LET THEM DO THIS TODAY. LET IT BE ON THE AGENDA TO HER EVERYBODY IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY KNOWS THAT YOUR INTENTION AND THAT THEY CAN CONSIDER IT AND DECIDE YES OR NO. IT SHOULD NOT HAVE EVEN BEEN BROUGHT UP ON THIS ITEM.

THAT IS A SIN AND A CRIME AND A TORT AND IS A VIOLATION OF 286 AND A VIOLATION OF ARTICLE 1 SECTION 24 OF OUR FLORIDA CONSTITUTION AND IT VIOLATES THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

IT'S WRONG AND IMMORAL. DON'T DO THIS.T IS WRONG. THANK YOU FOR YOUR

CONSIDERATION. DON'T DO IT. >> FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT?

PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS LISA MCGREEVY MCLEAN I RESIDE AT 703 PINEHURST PLACE I CAME HERE TODAY TO OBSERVE WHAT WAS GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS FOR HIRING A NEW COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. I AM A FORMER CEO I RETIRED HERE TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE TIME THAT WE HAVE OWNED A HOME HERE INVESTING IN MY COMMUNITY. I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE CAN HAVE A NEW ADMINISTRATOR. I AM ALSO ÃI DO NOT KNOW MR. CONRAD.

I HAVE NEVER MET HIM. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIM OTHER THAN WHAT I HAVE OBSERVED OVER THE TIME THAT HE HAS BEEN IN THE CAR'S POSITION AND AT THE ADMINISTRATOR HERE.

AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU I AM REALLY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT HE HAS DONE.

I AM IMPRESSED WITH WHAT HE HAS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE WITH HIS CREDENTIALS, BUT MOSTLY I'M IMPRESSED WITH THE FACT THAT HE IS LOCAL, THAT HE HAS ROOTS HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WHILE I THINK A NATIONWIDE SEARCH SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY GREAT THING, LET ME TELL YOU, I'VE DONE A LOT OF NATIONWIDE SEARCHES AS A CEO HIRING PEOPLE, AND WHILE IT SOUNDS REALLY GREAT, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK OUT. TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN OUR COUNTY WHO KNOWS OUR COUNTY, WHO KNOWS HOW IT WORKS, WHO HAS LIVED HERE, WHO HAS ROOTS HERE, TO ME, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. ND SO WHILE I DIDN'T EXPECT THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE OUTCOME, IT HAS OCCURRED TO ME LATELY THAT WE HAD SOMEBODY COME INTO THE JOB AS AN INTERIM AND BY THE WAY IT SOMETIMES INTERIM PEOPLE WHO COME IN UNDERSTAND THE JOB REALLY WELL AND THEY END UP BEING THE BEST PERSON FOR THE JOB. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. I AM KATHY AND I RESIDE AT 520 FOX HOLLOW LN., ST. AUGUSTINE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING ME COME UP AND SPEAK ABOUT MR. HUNTER CONRAD TODAY. HE IS SCARED TO DEATH. WELL, PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER I WAS GOING TO SAY GOOD OR BAD BECAUSE I'M THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER AT THE CURRENT CLERK OF COURTS OFFICE. I WORKED BEFORE MR. CONRAD WAS CLERK OF COURT DURING HIS TENURE THERE AND I AM STILL THERE. I HAVE WORKED IN A FEW CLERK'S OFFICES OVER THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR THE LAST 27 YEARS. I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO INSPIRED OR SO ENCOURAGED AT MY AGE, MIGHT I ADD, TO DO DIFFERENT, TO DO BIG THINGS, TO MAKE

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HE TOOK A LITTLE STAGNANT GOVERNMENT OFFICE AND I DON'T MEAN ANY ILL WILL BUY AND RESUSCITATED IT INTO NEW HOPE AND IDEA FOR YOUR COMMUNITY, FOR COMMUNITY, FOR MY COMMUNITY. THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THIS YOUNG MAN, HE IS AWESOME. HE DID AN AWESOME JOB HE WILL CONTINUE TO DO AN AWESOME JOB.

I BELIEVE IN HIM AND I WILL CONTINUE TO BELIEVE IN HIM. I CERTAINLY THINK YOU SHOULD AS

WELL. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7 PLEASE COMPORT.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7 PUBLIC COMMENT. MR. CHAIRMAN NOT SEEING ANY

FURTHER INDIVIDUALS APPROACHING WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT >> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSE WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS?

DISCUSSION? >> MR. WALDRON: I JUST WANT TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT THE PROCESS. NUMBER ONE I WOULD NOT LIKE A NATIONAL SEARCH.

I THINK WE HAVE GOOD TALENTED PEOPLE FROM ST. JOHNS COUNTY THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT FOR THIS JOB. YOU KNOW, YOU MAY CALL ME ÃI WAS BORN HERE HIS DAD GAVE ME A LOAN TO BUILD MY FIRST HOUSE OR MY ONLY HOUSE AND I'VE LIVED IN IT.

I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF KNOWING HUNTER'S FAMILY OVER 20 YEARS AND HAD HIM COACHING HIS SISTER AND HE PLAYED WITH MY DAUGHTER. I THINK THEY TURNED 30 THIS YEAR WHICH IS KIND OF SCARY. BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, I LOOKED AT FOUR CRITERIA. AND HUNTER MEETS ÃAND I HAVE TOLD HIM THIS IN PRIVATE, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HARD TO REACH. I WANT SOMEBODY THAT'S FROM HERE. THEY ARE INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND LEADS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S HOW THEY WERE BROUGHT UP IN WHAT THEY ASPIRE TO BE.

AND I WANT THEM TO HAVE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE JOBS WHERE THEY WORK IN BOTH AREAS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE THAT DOLLAR THOSE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING TO RUN OUR GOVERNMENT. I BELIEVE HE UNDERSTANDS THAT. YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS OF KNOWING HAVE ANOTHER MEETING TO DISCUSS THE I'M FINE WITH THAT. BUT I'M HAPPY WITH WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK HE WOULD DO A GREAT JOB FOR IT.

AND IF NOT JUST LIKE ANY OTHER FUTURE BOARDS CAN MAKE THAT DECISION.

I REALLY ÃAS FAR AS HIRING AN OUTSIDE FIRM TO GO NATIONWIDE AND HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN, I DON'T WANT TO SOUND BUT I DON'T WANT I HAVE GROWN UP HERE AND I HAD TWO OR THREE OF US ON THIS BOARD ARE ALL FROM HERE. WE CARE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY. AND I APPRECIATE THE JOB HE'S

DONE. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER JOHNS? SHOULD WE ÃTO BE LEGALLY COMPLIANT MAKE THIS A FORMAL AGENDA ITEM AND OPEN IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? IS THERE A LEGAL NECESSITY TO

DO SO? >> LEGAL? >> WELL, AS I HAD MENTIONED, THE BOARD CURRENTLY HAS A CONTRACT WITH MR. CONRAD AS THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

THE BOARD WOULD NEED TO EITHER HAVE A NEW CONTRACT OR AMEND THE EXISTING CONTRACT I WILL SAY DEALING WITH CONTRACTS, OBVIOUSLY WE LIKE TO HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALL CORRECT IN THAT KIND OF THING. I THINK IT WOULD BE ADVISABLE TO DO THAT, HOWEVER, IF THE BOARD WISHES TO LOOK AT ANOTHER OPTION, I THINK WE COULD MAKE SOME REVISIONS TO THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR CONTRACT AND BRING THAT BACK TO THE BOARD LATER IN THE MEETING OR AS I SAID, TO HAVE IT AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING.

>> ONE OTHER QUESTION. AT WHAT POINT SHOULD WE TALK ABOUT DETAILS, ASSUMING THIS MOVES FORWARD? ABOUT THE CONTRACT. IT'S AN AWKWARD CONVERSATION TO

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>> I THINK THIS IS MY PERSPECTIVE, COMMISSIONER, I PBELIEVE IF WE ARE GOING TO MOV FORWARD WE NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION TODAY AND WE CAN WORK ON A NEGOTIATED AMENDED CONTRACT AT A FUTURE POINT THAT BEING THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING.

THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE TO HAVE OPPORTUNITY SO YOU CAN READ IT AND REFAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH IT AND MAKE AND DISCUSS IT HOWEVER YOU WANT TO WITH HUNTER AND MAKE SURE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO DO THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING. THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE RATHER THAN TODAY I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT HUNTER IS THE MAN FOR THE JOB THAT'S WHAT WE DO TODAY. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> TO UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY PURELY FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE THAT HIS QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE QUALIFIES HIM TO LEGALLY MEET THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE

ORDINANCE? >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS, I HAVE READ THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS AS PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO THIS POSITION.

I HAVE DESCRIBED FROM THE EXPERIENCE THAT I AM AWARE OF. I BELIEVE IT CAN FIT THOSE QUALIFICATIONS. I WOULD SAY ALSO SHOULD THERE BE ANY CHALLENGE TO THAT, I FEEL THAT ANY CHALLENGE WOULD BE VERY DEFENDABLE AND IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCES AS THE BOARD'S ORDINANCE IF THE BOARD WANTED TO ADJUST ANY ORDINANCE, IT CERTAINLY HAS THE PREROGATIVE TO DO THAT. BUT I THINK PERTAINING TO MY COMMENTS, I READ THROUGH AND KIND OF SORT OF PLACED THE LANGUAGE IN COMPARISON WITH MR. CONRAD'S EXPERIENCE AS I KNOW

IT.HANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE?

NO, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> MR. DEAN: BASED ON ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THE FOLLOWING MOTION FOR CONSIDERATION.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT NUMBER 1, BUT WE OFFER HUNTER CONRAD THE POSITION OF PERMANENT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IN THE SAME MOTION THAT THE CHAIRMAN DESIGNATE EITHER HIMSELF OR ONE OF HIS FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO SERVE AS THE NEGOTIATOR WITH MR. CONRAD WITH RESPECT TO THE DETAILS AND BRING THAT BACK AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE COMMISSION MEETING FOR THOROUGH DISCUSSION AND INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC AS

NEEDED, AND THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. >> MR. CHAIR, I DID HEAR COMMISSIONER DEAN'S MOTION. I THINK FORT SORT OF DESIGNATING THE CHAIR AS SORT OF NEGOTIATING ASPECT OF THAT, THAT COULD IMPLICATE SOME SUNSHINE ISSUES ON THAT.

WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION MAY BE FOR COMMISSIONER DEAN IS TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE AN AGREEMENT FOR THE BOARD TO HIRE MR. CONRAD AS THE PERMANENT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR CONSIDERATION AT THE NEXT SCHEDULED BOARD MEETING AND THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SHALL

COMMUNICATE WITH THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD DURING THAT PROCESS. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, ONE THING I DO KNOW ABOUT ÃAFTER 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IS THE SUNSHINE LAW AND I CAN ASSURE YOU BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE THAT IF YOU DESIGNATE ONE OF US TO NEGOTIATE WITH MR. CONRAD, A DRAFT CONTRACT TO BRING IT BACK FOR US AS A BOARD TO CONSIDER, THAT DOES NOT VIOLATE THE SUNSHINE LAW. WHAT VIOLATES THE SUNSHINE LAW IS THAT IF ONE OF US TALK TO EACH OTHER TO DISCUSS THE CONTRACT OR IF YOU AND I, MR. SMITH, OR TO MEET WITH HUNTER TO WORK OUT THE CONTRACT DETAILS. THAT'S WHAT VIOLATES THE

SUNSHINE LAW. >> THERE IS NO VIOLATION FOR THIS BOARD TO DESIGNATE ONE OF US TO SIT DOWN AND NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT. WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE IT ONCE THE DRAFT IS PREPARED TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO REVIEW THE LEGAL NICETIES.

THAT'S VERY COMMON. THAT'S DONE ON A REGULAR BASIS. BUT I WOULD STRONGLY URGE THIS BOARD TO DESIGNATE EITHER THE CHAIRMAN OR WHO THE CHAIRMAN MAY CHOOSE TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH HUNTER CONRAD. AND THAT IS WHY I MADE THE MOTION THE WAY I DID AND THAT

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STANDS AS MY MOTION. >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR?

WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT ALREADY AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT MOTION MORE

TIME COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> I HOPE I CAN. I MOVE THAT THIS BOARD OFFER HUNTER CONRAD THE POSITION OF COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, NUMBER 1. AND NUMBER TWO NUMBER THAT YOU AS CHAIRMAN YOURSELF OR DESIGNATE A BOARD MEMBER TO NEGOTIATE A DRAFT CONTRACT THAT WILL COME BACK TO US IN AN OPEN MEETING FOR US TO REVIEW, AMEND, CONSIDER, ACT ON AT THE FIRST AVAILABLE COMMISSION MEETING. IT MAY BE THE NEXT MEETING OR IT MAY BE TWO OR THREE MEETINGS HENCE BASED ON HOW THE DISCUSSIONS GO.

>> AND THAT'S A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE WILL KEEP IT OPEN. I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS. THAT I BELIEVE MR. CONRAD IS THE RIGHT MAN FOR THE JOB. AND I AM APPRECIATIVE THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO DO IT AND I AM GOING TO TELL YOU THIS. YOU HAVE BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH AND I CAN SAY THAT IT'S A REAL HONOR AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE THUS FAR AND IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY. IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I WILL CALL FOR A VOTE. IT PASSES 5 TO 0. WE WILL HAVE A NEGOTIATION OF A CONTRACT AND BRING IT BACK AT THE CLOSEST AND MOST AVAILABLE TIME HERE VERY SHORTLY.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, DID YOU WANT TO DO THE NEGOTIATIONS? >> I WILL BE GLAD.

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>> THANK YU, SIR. >> THANK YOU. WE ARE MOVING ALONG TO AGENDA

ITEM NUMBER 8 THIS WILL BE MR. YOUNG. >> GOOD MORNING.

BILL YOUNG UTILITY DIRECTOR. AS YOU KNOW THE COUNTY ENTERED INTO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IN 1999 GIVING GEAA THE RIGHT TO BUY UTILITIES IN NORTHERN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS HER WATER, WASTEWATER AND RECLAIMED WATER IN THE SERVICE AREA. CURRENTLY THEY SERVE MORE THAN 30,000 WASTEWATER AND RECLAIMED WATER CUSTOMERS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

JEA REVENUE EXCEEDS $45 MILLION EACH YEAR. THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT REQUIRES JEA TO MAKE CASH PAYMENTS TO THE COUNTY AND GIVES THE COUNTY THE RIGHT TO PURCHASE BACK THE ASSETS UNDER DESIGNATED CIRCUMSTANCES. THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT PROVIDES A FAVORABLE FORMULA FOR CALCULATING THE PRICE THE COUNTY WOULD PAY JEA IF SUCH CIRCUMSTANCES OCCUR. SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, JEA ISSUED AN INVITATION TO OTHER UTILITIES TO BUY JEA. JEA'S INTENT TO SELL IT UTILITIES TO A THIRD PARTY IS ONE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES ALLOWING THE COUNTY THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY JEA'S ASSETS WITHIN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. JEA GAVE THE COUNTY NOTICE IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, SEPTEMBER 2019, THAT THE COUNTY EITHER HAD TO DECIDE TO NEGOTIATE, TO PURCHASE JEA PLASMA ASSETS OR LOSE THE RIGHT TO BUY THEM. AFTER RECEIVING THE COUNTIES RESPONSE TO HIS NOTICE, JEA LATER EXTENDED THE TIME FOR THE COUNTY DECISION BY 45 DAYS TO FEBRUARY 10, 2020. THE COUNTY HAS ENGAGED A TEAM OF UTILITY ACQUISITION PROFESSIONALS TO ASSIST WITH EVALUATION OF JEA ACIDS IN THE COUNTY ACCORDING TO THE PURCHASE PRICE FORMULA IN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. JEA HAS YET TO PROVIDE INFORMATION WE NEED FOR EVALUATION BUT WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM TO OBTAIN THIS INFORMATION. AGAIN, WE WERE RECEIVING INFORMATION FROM THEM ON AN ONGOING APPROACH AS LATE AS LAST FRIDAY. THE COUNTY EITHER MUST PURSUE NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE PURCHASE OR BE AT RISK OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY JEA'S ASSETS AT A FAVORABLE PURCHASE PRICE COULD BE LOST. JEA RESCINDED THE SALE PROCESS TO THE INTERESTED OUTSIDE UTILITIES ON DECEMBER 24, 2019, ON CHRISTMAS EVE, AFTER RUNNING INTO SIGNIFICANT DIFFICULTIES WHICH CONTINUE TO CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR JEA.

SO THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES FOR THE BOARD. THERE ARE THREE. WILL LIST THEM QUICKLY. DO NOTHING, WHICH WOULD RISK THE LOSS ÃWE WOULD RISK THE

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BUT AS A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS TO ENTER NEGOTIATIONS WITH JEA AT THIS OPPORTUNITY.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. YOUNG? THANK YOU, MR. YOUNG. SEEING NONE WE WILL OPEN IT UP

FOR PUBLIC COMMENT >> >> WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8. PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> ED SLAVIN BOX 3084 CLEANUP CITY HAS A.BLOGSPOT.COM. I AGREE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, THOUGH IN THE BOOK IN THE VESTIBULE, THIS LITTLE BOOK WHERE WE USED TO HAVE A BIG BOOK THERE IS NO BACKUP MATERIAL ON THIS ITEM.

OUR NEW COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COULDN'T BRING IT UPON HIMSELF TO COMPLY WITH THE STANDARD OF CARE ESTABLISHED BY THE PRIOR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND HAVE THE AGENDA BOOK ITEM IN THE BACK WHERE YOU CAN READ IT. ONE PAGE. IT'S JUST A COVER SHEET.

NOW, IS THAT THE WAY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE IT WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY RUN FROM THIS DAY FORWARD? IS THAT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING? I MEAN, YOU WILL JUST HIRE HIM PERMANENTLY WITHOUT CONSIDERING A SINGLE WOMAN WERE A SINGLE AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND WITHOUT POSTING AND THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST SHAMEFUL DAYS IN THE HISTORY OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. DOCTOR KING, WE OBSERVED THE ANNIVERSARY OF HIS BIRTH YESTERDAY. DOCTOR KING SAID THIS IS THE MOST LAWLESS PLACE IN AMERICA.

YOU WILL JUST PROVED IT AGAIN BY HIRING HIM WITHOUT CONSIDERING A SINGLE WOMAN OR SINGLE AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS BOOK, HE'S NOT GIVING THE PUBLIC THE INFORMATION WE NEED. WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND THE BACKUP MATERIAL. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE VESTIBULE AT THE BACK.

IT'S NOT THERE. ONE PAGE. WE USED TO HAVE ONE SOMETIMES TWO BOOKS IN THE BACK FOR PEOPLE TO READ. AS DANIEL PATRICK MONAHAN SAID IT BEST, SECRECY IS FOR LOSERS. YOU ARE LOSING THE RESPECT OF THE PUBLIC.

YOU ARE LOSING THE RESPECT OF PEOPLE WHO VALUE OPEN RECORDS AND SUNSHINE AND EEO LAWS AND NONDISCRIMINATION. YOU ARE LOSING THE RESPECT OF PEOPLE WHO PAY OUR SALARIES.

YOU WORK FOR US. HE WORKS FOR US. AND WHEN HE WAS AT THE CLERK OF COURTS OFFICE, HIS ASSISTANT WHO IS NOW THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WAS COMPLETELY DISRESPECTFUL ON OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS. I ASKED FOR THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT TRAINING RECORDS AND THEY WANTED TWO HOURS TIME TO LOOK FOR THEM.

THAT DOG WON'T HUNT AND WHEN I TALKED TO MR. CONRAD LAST YEAR ABOUT THAT IN THE VESTIBULE, HE SAID HE WASN'T GOING TO REVIEW HIS ASSISTANT PRESENT DECISIONS.

HE DIDN'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED. IS NOT THE KIND OF PERSON THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD? I DON'T WANT TO CALL THEM GOOD OLD BOYS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT BILL HARRIS THE CITY MANAGER IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE DUMPED A LANDFILL IN A LAKE.

IN GOOD OLD BOYS LIKE TO HUNT FISH. THEY EVEN GO AND HALF BEAST FEAST AT HUNTER CONRAD HAS MY FATHER'S CHURCH WHERE THE MEN COOK ÃMID TO THE SHOOTING AND THE WOMEN DO THE COOKING AND THE MEN GET WAITED ON BY THE WOMEN DON'T GET TO EAT.

BUT GOOD OLD BOYS, THEY ARE NOT GOOD OLD BOYS. THESE ARE BAD PEOPLE.

PEOPLE WHO COVERED UP THE MURDER OF MICHELLE O'CONNELL, RECOMMENDED HIM FOR THE JOB.

I AGREE WITH THE STAFF REPORT ON GEAA. BUT PLEASE RECONSIDER YOUR

DECISION ON CONRAD. >> THANK YOU, SIR. IS THERE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8? MR. CHAIRMAN SEEING ON FURTHER

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WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> THANK YOU.

MR. CONRAD, PLEASE CHECK ON THE BRIEFING MATERIALS BEING PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC.

CAN YOU LOOK INTO THAT AND GET BACK TO THE BOARD? >> YES, SIR.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> WE HAVE A RECOMMENDED MOTION >> THE MOTION WOULD AUTHORIZE FORMAL NOTICE TO BE SENT TO JEA OF THE COUNTIES DECISION TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATION.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON AND THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> MR. JOHNS: YOU AND I TALKED PROBABLY THREE YEARS AGO ABOUT THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WHEN I FIRST STARTED TO UNDERSTAND AND LONG BEFORE THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF HOW TO SET UP THE BENEFITS TO THE RESIDENCE AT THE TIME AND THE POTENTIAL BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY SHOULD SOMETHING LIKE THIS OPPORTUNITY COME ABOUT.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE OTHERS AT THAT TIME 10+ YEARS AGO THAT HAVE THE FORESIGHT TO PUT THIS TOGETHER IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE OPTIONS TO OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESS OWNERS AND LANDOWNERS SHOULD THE TIMING AND THE OPPORTUNITY BE RIGHT TO REVIEW THIS PROCESS OPENLY AND INCLUDE OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE RESOURCES THAT WILL BE NECESSARY.

IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL ADDITION. BASED ON THE LEADERSHIP IN THE EXECUTION WE OPENED A WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND THE PEOPLE AROUND IT WHO LIVED THERE LOVED IT. I HAD SOMEBODY AT A MEETING LATE LAST WEEK SAID THEY HEARD ABOUT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS LITERALLY NEXT DOOR TO THEM. THEY MOVED IN AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION HAD STARTED.

THEY SAID IT FITS WELL WITH THE COMMUNITY. IT BLENDS THEN, IT'S NOT NOTICEABLE. AND RARELY DO YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE HERE THOSE ACCOLADES FOR PEOPLE. I HAVE HEARD ONE AND I WANTED TO PUBLICLY PASS THAT ON TO YOU AND THE ORGANIZATION BECAUSE YOU DESERVE THE CREDIT, NOT US FOR FINDING WAYS TO BLEND A GROWING NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY, WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES IN PLACES THAT CAN BE QUITE TIGHT AND CHALLENGING TO SAY THE LEAST. NOT JUST TO FIT SOCIALLY BUT COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE REGULATIONS AND GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO LOOK IN THE LONG TERM FOR THE BENEFITS OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO RECOGNIZE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT BY AT LEAST DETERMINING WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE, LETTING OUR COMMUNITY KNOW WHAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE AND WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS WILL BE SO THAT THEY ARE NOT ÃTHEY ARE NOT OVERLY UNREASONABLE AND WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE. AND DO THAT IN A TIME WHEN PEOPLE HAVE SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE CURRENT UTILITY SERVICE PROVIDED ÃBEING PROVIDED TO THEM. AND HOPEFULLY IMPROVE THE EXPERIENCE.

SO WHILE I AM OBVIOUSLY IN FAVOR OF THIS, I WANTED TO THANK YOU PUBLICLY FOR WHAT YOU HAVE CONTINUOUSLY DONE AND NOT TAKEN ANY CREDIT FOR IT OR BROUGHT IT TO ANYBODY'S ATTENTION BUT I WANTED TO DO SO BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THINGS WHEN THEY ARE NOT GOING WELL BUT THIS IS A TIME WHEN YOU AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL AND THE STAFF THAT'S INVOLVED IN THIS CONTRACT AND IN PROVIDING THE SERVICES WHEN YOU DO YOUR JOB WELL NOBODY NOTICES. SO I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS NOTICED AND LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD WITH IDENTIFYING WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE AND WHAT THE IMPACT WILL BE, THE BENEFITS TO OUR COMMUNITY WILL BE AS A RESULT OF IT.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.> COMMISSIONER WALDRON? >> I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK ON THIS AND PUTTING IT DOWN AND MEETING WITH THE JEA WE HAVE THIS MEETING. ALSO I APPRECIATE ÃI WANTED TO MAKE MENTION OF YOUR DEPARTMENT TODAY AND HOW WELL OF A JOB YOU HAVE DONE. YOU TOOK OVER ÃIT'S BEEN A GREAT JOB AND WE HAVE AN ISSUE, YOU JUST TAKE CARE OF IT RIGHT AWAY.

I APPRECIATE THAT. >> THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

IT PASSES 5 TO 0. THANK YOU. >> THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA FOR TODAY AND WE WILL NOW MOVE

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>> I JUST HAD ONE THING. WE HAD SOME COMMITTEE MOVE AROUND AND I WAS PLACED ON THE INSURANCE COMMITTEE AND TOOK OVER FOR COMMISSIONER DEAN WHO DID A GREAT JOB.

ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO GET STAFF TO LOOK AT AND LEGAL, I THINK THE COMMISSIONER THAT

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>> MR. CHAIR, IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE OUR OFFICE TO SORT OF BRING UP SOMETHING WE WOULD

BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. >> THE ACTION TO ÃDO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS?

DO WE HAVE OPEN, AS WELL? >> AT THIS TIME WITH YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.

YES SIR. >> I THOROUGHLY AGREE WITH THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

I ATTENDED A MEETING OF THE INSURANCE COMMITTEE BACK IN 2017, I THINK IT WA.

AND MR. WANCHICK CAN BE IN THAT MEETING IN ANOTHER BUILDING. AND IT WASN'T UNTIL AND THE COMMISSIONERS WHO WERE PRESENT COULDN'T VOTE AND MR. WANCHICK GAVE AWAY HIS AGENDA.

AND IT WASN'T AND YOU KNOW WHAT HE SAID? HE SAID THE COUNTY UNDER HIS RATE OF ERROR HAD BEEN VERY GENEROUS ON INSURANCE BECAUSE HE WANTED TO STAVE OFF IMMUNIZATION. NOW, THE FUNDAMENTAL PUBLIC POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA SINCE 1937 WITH THE WEGNER ACT IS TO ENCOURAGE FREE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AND I KNOW HE WAS REPRESENTING A YOUNG LAWYER. REPRESENTING THE LABOR RELATIONS BOARD. BEFORE THE SEVENTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS AND JUDGE SCHNACKENBERG ACTUALLY SAID HOW COME THE ÃTHEY ARE HERE ARGUING ON THE SIDE OF THE UNIONS? AND THE JUDGE SAID YOUR HONOR, THE PUBLIC POLICY IN THE UNITED STATES IS TO ENCOURAGE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AND YOU CAN'T HAVE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNLESS THERE IS SOMEONE TO COLLECTIVELY BARGAIN WITH.

SORRY FOR THE SPLIT INFINITIVE. I APOLOGIZE. CAN WE MAKE SURE THIS INSURANCE COMMITTEE IS TELEVISED, IS ON THE COUNTIES WEBSITE THAT THE MEETINGS ARE PROPERLY NOTICED? AND DEFINITELY THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO VOTE AND THE SO-CALLED CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS AND THEY ARE SORT OF UNCONSTITUTIONAL, SURE SURE'S AGENDA IS ANTI-HUMAN. TWICE THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTY HE FOUGHT THE UNION TOOTH AND TOENAIL. I WOULDN'T VOTE FOR THE TEAMSTERS.

THERE ARE GOOD UNIONS TO REPRESENT GOOD PEOPLE AND THE COUNTY HAS KEPT QUIET ABOUT THIS POLICY. WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA.

IF YOU ARE ANTIUNION I WANT YOU TO SAY IT PUBLICLY. AND I WANT HIM TO SAY PUBLICLY ABOUT THE AGENDA AND I WANT THIS INSURANCE COMMITTEE TO BE A PUBLIC SUNSHINE COMMITTEE.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND THE ROLE OF THE WORKERS NEEDS TO BE REPRESENTED AT THAT TABLE. AS FAR AS I RECOLLECT THIS MEETING WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND THE OFFICERS I DID NOT SEE ONE REPRESENTATIVE EMPLOYEE THERE.

YOUR EMPLOYEES HAVE A RIGHT TO BE HEARD. THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK AND THE RIGHT TO ENGAGE IN PROTECTED ACTIVITY AND THEY DON'T NEED TO BE SUBMARINE BY A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR UNACCOUNTABLE WHO I'M REALLY GLAD YOU FIRED.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR FIRING MR. WANCHICK. >> ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS MATTER AT THIS TIME? MR. CHAIRMAN NOT SEEING ANYONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC,

>> PUBLIC, CLOSED WE HAVE A CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH LOOKING INTO

THIS PARTICULAR MATTER ANYTHING ELSE? >> THAT'S IT.

ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> THANK YOU.

I APOLOGIZE TO THE BOARD IN ADVANCE I HAVE A COUPLE OF ISSUES I WANT TO TOUCH ON VERY BRIEFLY. THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THINGS UP.

TO MR. CONRAD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THE BOARD ÃI WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE APPLICANT BRIEFING

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CONSENSUS WHERE HE CAN GET BACK TO US >> I THINK YOU CAN GET BACK TO

US ON >> ALSO HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP SEVERAL TIMES YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE. MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE BRIEFING MATERIALS PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC AND I THINK IT'S JUST A GOOD PRACTICE.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT PROVIDING SOME OF THIS MATERIAL ONLINE YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE.O IF YOU COULD LOOK INTO THAT AND ADVISE THE BOARD ON HOW WE ARE DOING THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TOUCHING ON THAT.

MR. CHAIRMAN I BROUGHT THIS UP EARLIER I WANT TO GET BACK TO THIS.

SUBSECTION 5 AGAIN, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT WE AS A BOARD HAVE BROUGHT UP AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND MR. CHAIRMAN ON ÃI WILL LOOK TO YOU FOR GUIDANCE.

WHEN WE BRING UP ISSUES AND COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BOARD AGREE AS I WOULD LIKE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND COUNTY ATTORNEY TO FOLLOW UP WITH US AND HELP US TRACK THESE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. SO WITH COMMISSIONER WALDRON JUST BROUGHT UP THIS ISSUE WE WANT TO SEE THAT AGAIN AND WE DON'T WANT TO ÃWE DON'T WANT SIX MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD TO HAVE TO BRING THIS UP AGAIN. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THE BOARD ÃIF WE NEED CONSENSUS WE WILL DO THAT. I'D LIKE TO SEE A REPORT FROM THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR COUNTY ATTORNEY THE ISSUES WE HAVE BROUGHT UP I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BROUGHT BACK TO OUR ATTENTION SO WE CAN TRACK THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE Ã HAVE A HANDLE ON THIS. THIS ISSUE I BROUGHT ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO TRYING TO GO THROUGH MY NOTES. I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON.

THIS IS AN EASY OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ADDRESSCONCERN. WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND THERE WAS NEVER ANY FOLLOW-UP ON IT. I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT TODAY BUT I WANT YOU ALL TO BRING THIS BACK TO OUR ATTENTION SO WE ARE NOT LOSING TRACK OF THIS.

WE ARE COUNTING ON OUR STAFF TO DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED

CONSENSUS ON THE Ã >> I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY NEED FOR THAT.

I THINK WE ALL HAVE CONSENSUS WHEN IT IT'S SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.

I THINK THAT'S IMPERATIVE, THAT'S THE DUTY AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHICH WE'VE

BEEN TASKED. DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS. >> ONE THING COMMISSIONER BLOCKER I HAD ASKED MS. MELISSA TO DO THAT FOR US IS THE BOARD. TRACK THEM AND MAKE SURE THEY GOT TO THE PROPER PLACES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT AND HAVE HER GIVE THE CHAIRMAN TO MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT WAS ADDRESSED THE BOARD SENT OUT OR WHATEVER WE WANTED TO DO IT. I HAVE ASKED ABOUT IT FOR A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS.

TRYING TO TRACK WHAT WE HAVE ASKED BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD TIMES WE HAVE ASKED FOR STUFF AND EVERYBODY IS BUSY. WE GET BUSY WITH OTHER ITEMS. WE LOSE TRACK IN THE END.

>> I THINK IT WAS BEFORE THAT THAT I HAD REQUESTED IT AS WELL.

I THINK BEFORE YOU WERE ON THE BOARD BECAUSE IT WAS ÃWHAT I WANTED WAS EVERY BOARD ACTION TO BE ÃWHEN THEY ARE BROUGHT TO COMPLETION WITH THE ACTION WAS.

IT'S A SIMPLE THING TO DO. BUT IT'S ALSO A GOOD TRACKING MECHANISM BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE WILL LOSE ALONG THE WAY THAT WE CAN GET BUSY WITH OTHER ITEMS OR FOCUS ON

THEM. COMMISSIONER JOHNSTON MET >> I AGREE.

WE HAVE ALL HAD A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE. I FEEL LIKE IT'S INCUMBENT UPON ME TO GIVE STAFF A TIMELINE ABOUT WHICH I EXPECT TO RECEIVE THE ANSWERS SO THAT WE BOTH HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE CRITICALITY OF WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING BECAUSE THEY DO EQUAL NOT JUST A 500 DIRECTIONS BUT OTHER NEEDS AND THEY PERFORM THE JOBS VERY WELL.

BE CLEAR ON THAT.UT WE NEED TO BE CLEAR WHEN WE ANTICIPATE TO RECEIVE THE RESULTS OF OUR REQUEST TO ANY STAFF MEMBER JUST LIKE WE DO AT HOME OR IN OUR BUSINESSES OR ELSEWHERE TO REQUEST SOMETHING AND I TRY MY BEST TO SPECIFY A TIMELINE AND ASK FOR FEEDBACK AS TO WHETHER THAT'S PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE BASED ON WHAT I MAY BE REQUESTING REQUIRES MORE COMPLEXITY TO IT AND TIME THAN I WOULD HAVE ESTIMATED. BUT HAVE THAT OPEN DIALOGUE TO SAY THIS IS WHAT I NEED AND THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED FOR. IF IT'S A TIME-DEPENDENT NEED OR WHEN CAN I EXPECT TO HAVE THAT BACK? BUT STAFF DOES NEED TO BE Ã NEEDS TO HOLD THEMSELVES ACCOUNTABLE FOR DELIVERING ON THOSE DATES THAT WE MUTUALLY AGREED ON. THINGS FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS. I THINK IT HAPPENS TO ALL OF US, BUT SINCE WE ARE BRINGING THIS UP, I WANT TO SET THE EXPECTATIONS THAT THE

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ANTICIPATING. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP TO THAT. WHEN ÃWHEN APPLICATIONS OR PROJECTS ARE TRANSMITTED TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA THEY TAKE 30 DAYS TO RUN THROUGH OTHER AGENCIES TO REVIEW MATTERS.

I THINK A 30 DAY BENCHMARK IS REASONABLE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BOARD A 30 DAY STANDING WHEN WE BRING UP SOMETHING IN THE MEETING 30 DAYS FROM THAT MEETING OR WITHIN THE NEXT MEETING THAT FALLS WE SHOULD HAVE AN UPDATE.

IF STAFF NEEDS MORE TIME AT A REASONABLE BUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA CAN TAKE A PROJECT AND ALL OF ITS COMPLEXITIES AND GET BACK WITHIN 30 DAYS. I THINK OUR STAFF CAN DO THAT AS WELL. DO EITHER OF YOU SEE AN ISSUE WITH THAT?

>> THAT SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE AT ALL. >> NO.

I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO CAPTURE, I GUESS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER PHRASE TASK LIST OR SCORECARD. THERE MAY BE ITEMS THAT THE BOARD REQUESTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, SHOULD BE DONE TIMELY, ETC. THERE MAY BE OTHER ITEMS THAT HAPPEN FROM TIME TO TIME AN ITEM COMES UP SOME HOMEWORK IS DONE AND THE BOARD ULTIMATELY DOES NOT WANT TO BRING A PROGRAM OR A PARTICULAR CHANGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT EVEN WITH THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IT SHOULD BE DISPOSED OF. THE BOARD SHOULD MAKE A

CONSCIOUS DO IT OR DON'T DO IT AND THAT ECHOES OFF THE LIST. >> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND I LOOK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE, COMMISSIONER JOHN SPRINGS UP I THINK WE NEED A REASONABLE TIMELINE. I THINK 30 DAYS SEEMS REASONABLE.

OBVIOUSLY A STAFF NEEDS MORE TIME AND THERE'S AN ISSUE. IT'S GOING TO BE A FACT BUT I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE TIME IF WE BRING UP AS WAS BROUGHT UP TODAY BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON, I THINK 30 DAYS SHOULD BE A REASONABLE TIME, A STANDING TIMELINE TO EXPECT.

>> AND IF I MAY THROUGH THE CHAIR FOR COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, ONE THINK THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IS TO AS PART OF REPORTS, SORT OF BRING THINGS OUT. THIS ONE IS COMPLETE, THIS ONE IS IN PROGRESS, THIS ONE IS BACK FOR FURTHER DIRECTION OF THE BOARD, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK WHAT THE BOARD ÃTHE RIGHTFUL CONCERN IS THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS GOING ON THAT SOMETHING FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM FALLS TO THE CRACKS, THE BOARD WANTS IT DONE, REPORT ON THE PROGRESS, OR BASICALLY DECIDE AFTER CONSIDERATION NOT TO DO IT, BUT WHAT THE BOARD

DOES NOT WANT IS WHAT WAS FORGOTTEN ABOUT. >> WELL, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, CAN WE ÃIF YOU ÃCAN WE DIRECT OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, COUNTY ATTORNEY TO COME BACK TO US WITH ÃOR TRACK THIS IN A WAY WHERE I'M SURE YOUR OFFICES CAN WORK TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING YOU HAVE GREAT STAFF WORKING FOR YOU. THIS IS DONE IN THE MILITARY.

EVERY CORPORATION, EVERY FAMILY BUSINESS DOES THIS. I AM SURE YOU CAN COME UP WITH

SOMETHING GOOD AND BRIEF US ON IT.S THAT FAIR? >> YES, SIR.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD TASK ADMINISTRATION TO DO THIS AND NOT PUT ADDITIONAL BURDEN BUT TO COMPOSE A TASK AND CAPTURE THAT IN THE MEETING AND THEN COMPOSE IT AND REPORT ON THE STATUS AS IT CONTINUES I THINK AS PART OF A COMMUNICATION IS NECESSARY AS WELL.

>> I WOULD PUBLICLY ASK FOR Ã I'VE REPORTED ON THIS AS WELL. IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU

AGAIN JUST THAT TASK CAN BE GIVEN TO THE ADMINISTRATION. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANYTHING ELSE? >> I HAD TWO MORE THINGS BRIEFLY. THIS IS ANOTHER ISSUE I THINK WAS BROUGHT UP BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND AGAIN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT I THINK COMMISSIONER DEAN HAD BROUGHT UP AND COMMISSIONER COMMENTS THE CELL PHONE TOWER ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD FORMATION FOR OUR STAFF TO LOOK INTO THAT. THIS IS SOMETHING DUVAL COUNTY HAS AND SEVERAL OTHER COUNTIES HAVE THERE ARE FEDERAL LAWS THAT REGULATE HOW CELL PHONE TOWERS CAN BE LOOKED AT AND I KNOW A NUMBER OF CONSTITUENTS HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION. COMMISSIONER DEAN, YOU BROUGHT THIS UP SOME TIME AGO.

WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON THIS SO I WOULD LIKE THIS TO ÃI THINK THE

BOARD GAVE CONSENSUS ON THIS. >> IF I COULD ÃCOMMISSIONER BLOCKER, ONE THING I KNOW IF THAT IS COMING BACK IS THE DISCUSSION OF THE 5G ISSUE WHICH PERTAINS, OBVIOUSLY, TO THE PLACEMENT OF THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY. WOULD IT BE YOUR SENSE THAT SORT OF THE TOWER THING BE WITH MATT LAGOR IS NOT A SEPARATE ITEM THAT YOU WOULD LIKE?

>> I JUST THINK ÃWE HAVE CONSTITUENTS COMING TO US THAT ARE RAISING ÃTHEY ARE MOVING FROM OTHER PLACES OR OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE A REVIEW BOARD THAT LOOKS AT THIS.

YOU CAN'T UNDER FEDERAL LAW Ã THERE'S CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED.

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I THINK THIS WAS ASKED ÃDID YOU ASK FOR THIS? I AM NOT BRINGING THIS IN TO BE YOU GUYS UP. WE NEED TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS. I AM GETTING THE EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS ABOUT WHERE YOU'RE AT WITH LOOKING AT THIS. SO PLEASE ADD THAT TO THE TASK LIST. AND THEN I HAVE ONE MORE NEW ISSUE TO BRING UP.

THERE IS A NUMBER OF COUNTIES IN FLORIDA THAT ARE LOOKING AT THIS SECOND AMENDMENT SANCTUARY ISSUE. I HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS, RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY MEMBERS, ASK IF WE WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THIS FOR THE BOARD'S BENEFIT.

I CALLED SEVERAL OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS. MARION COUNTY, CLAY COUNTY, NASSAU COUNTY IS LOOKING AT IT. IT'S KIND OF INCREASING. BECAUSE I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS PROMPTING THIS, WHAT WAS THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS. IT'S AT A POINT WHERE I AM HEARING FROM ENOUGH CONSTITUENTS WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD TO CONSIDER GIVING CONSENSUS TO ASK OUR STAFF TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT SOME OF THESE ORDINANCES AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. I THINK AT 867 COUNTIES ALMOST 30 COUNTIES HAVE PASSED THESE NOW. I THINK IT'S INEVITABLE THAT GOING TO COME UP AND I'D LIKE TO GET AHEAD OF THIS A LITTLE BIT AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT OUR CONSTITUTION AND THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS AND IF THER'S MORE CONSENSUS ON THIS, MR.

CHAIRMAN. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S ON MY LIST AS WELL. BECAUSE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS IS UNDER ATTACK AND I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT EACH OF US HAVE VOWED TO DEFEND THE U.S. CONSTITUTION AND I THINK THIS IS A STEP TO DECLARE ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS A SANCTUARY COUNTY FOR THE SECOND AMENDMENT MAY BE HELPFUL IN DEFENSE OF THE CONSTITUTION AMENDMENT THAT EACH OF US ENJOY.

I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE DO IT AND MOVE FORWARD. I'D LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO COMPILE A RESOLUTION REFLECTIVE OF THESE ÃLEE COUNTY WAS NOT I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA CLAY COUNTY HAS MORE THE RESOLUTION WILL STRENGTHEN OUR GUN RIGHTS AND REJECT REGULATION FOR GUN CONTROL. I THINK SARASOTA IS NEXT ON THE LIST. I AGREED TO COMPLETELY CONCUR WE NEED CONSENSUS FROM THE

BOARD. >> AGREED >> WAIT TO OPEN IT UP FOR

PUBLIC COMMENT >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> YES, SIR.

>> COULD WE ALSO MAKE ST. JOHNS COUNTY A SANCTUARY FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT WHICH HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY VIOLATED OVER THE YEARS?AND HOW ABOUT THE FOURTH AMENDMENT AND THE FIFTH AMENDMENT AND THE SIXTH AMENDMENT AND THE SEVENTH AMENDMENT AND THE EIGHTH AMENDMENT AND THE 14TH AMENDMENT AND THE 15TH AMENDMENT? ALL OF THOSE. YOU HAVE SWORN TO UPHOLD. AND I SEE SELECTING THIS ONE ISSUE IS PERHAPS A LITTLE BIT OF POLITICAL PANDERING BUT OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AREN'T RESPECTED IN THIS BUILDING AND THEY ARE NOT RESPECTED BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

AND THEY CERTAINLY WERE NOT RESPECTED BY SOME OF THE FORMER COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE AT THIS TIME.

ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT ON THIS MATTER. >> ANYTHING ELSE? >> NO, SIR.

>> MR. CHAIR, DID THE BOARD WANT TO GIVE A FORMAL SORT OF DIRECTION ON THAT?

>> I WILL MOVE THAT WE ÃI WILL MOVE IT TO ASK STAFF TO COMPILE A RESOLUTION REFLECTIVE OF

THOSE PASSED BY LAKE AND CLAY COUNTIES. >> SECOND

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> MOTION CARRIES. >> DO WE WANT TO ATTACH A TIMELINE TO THAT?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING BY THE NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> WE SHOULD ASK STAFF TO LOOK AT THE 30 DAY TIMELINE FOR ALL OF THESE ISSUES AS WELL.

>> PATRICK AND THEM HAVE ALREADY DONE SOME RESEARCH ON THAT.

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>> WE THINK WE CAN BRING INTO THE NEXT MEETING ÃI WILL SAY THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS AROUND THE STATE ABOUT THIS. THERE HAVE BEEN QUITE A NUMBER OF COUNTIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS OR ARE LOOKING AT DOING THIS. I WILL SAY SOME OF THE WEAR AS CLAUSES, BASICALLY THE DETAIL AND JUSTIFICATION IN THE HISTORY, DIFFERENT COUNTIES HAVE DONE SORT OF SOME DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THAT, BUT WE WILL BRING BACK IF ÃWE COULD EITHER BRING BACK SORT OF A DRAFT FOR FURTHER DIRECTION OR WE CAN BRING BACK, YOU KNOW,

A DRAFT FOR ADOPTION. >> THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO. >> AND I WOULD SAY TOO, JUST ON THAT NOTE, SOME HAVE SAID THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS THE AMENDMENT THAT GUARANTEES THE

OTHERS. >> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> LET ME GO AHEAD AND BRING THIS UP. PATRICK, YOU SHARED WITH ME ABOUT 20 MINUTES AGO AND ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION. I WAS CORRECT IN MY MIND THAT THE SUNSHINE LAW DOES NOT PREVENT A DESIGNATED INDIVIDUAL TO REPRESENT THE SPORT IN NEGOTIATIONS. AT LEAST WHAT ONE ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION DID NOTE IS THAT IF WE DO THAT, IT APPEARS THAT THE INDIVIDUAL IN THIS CASE, CHAIRMAN SMITH, AND THE PERSON HE'S GOING TO BE DEALING WITH, HUNTER CONRAD, THAT THOSE MEETINGS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE SUNSHINE LAW. PERSONALLY, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT BOTHERS YOU AT ALL, CHAIRMAN SMITH, BUT THAT'S THE WAY I READ IT.

PATRICK CAN CONFIRM THAT OR NOT OR SPEAK TO IT, BUT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE ABILITY AND AUTHORITY TO NEGOTIATE ON OUR BEHALF. UT IT APPEARS THAT IT IS SUBJECT TO THE SUNSHINE LAW WITH WHICH WE DO REQUIRE NOTICE FOR YOU TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. SO BOTH YOU AND HUNTER CONRAD ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, I THINK THAT RESOLVED THAT ISSUE WITH FINALITY AND THAT WE CAN GO FORWARD AS MY MOTION WAS.

>> I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT. >> NO ISSUE WITH THAT. >> THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER JOHNS? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.N A LIGHT NOTE ONE OF OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WAS THE BASEBALL, THE LOCAL BABE RUTH AND CAL RIPKEN YOUTH BASEBALL ASSOCIATION CONTRIBUTED OVER $3500 FOR SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO ONE OF OUR PARKS AND THEY ARE PROVIDING THAT MONEY TO THE COUNTY FOR THE COUNTY TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS ACCORDING TO OUR STANDARDS. THIS WAS PURELY A DONATION. AND THIS IS JUST A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF MANY OTHERS WHO HAVE DONATED LAND FOR SCHOOLS, FOR RIGHTS-OF-WAY, AND I MEAN TRUE DONATIONS, NOT IN EXCHANGE FOR SOMETHING. OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AT PARKS AND OTHER FACILITIES ÃTHIS IS WHAT MAKES OUR COUNTY NUMBER 1. PEOPLE WILLING TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO MEET THE EXPECTATIONS, NOT NECESSARILY WITH ANY EXPECTATION OF SOMETHING IN RETURN OR EVEN ACCOLADES. I DO WANT TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE OTHERS HAVE MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES INTENDING WELL BUT NOT REALIZING THERE'S A PROCESS TO GO THROUGH. AND SOME THINGS HAD TO BE UNDONE AND REDONE AGAIN.

I WANTED TO BRING IT UP AS A THANK YOU TO JCB FOR MAKING THAT CONTRIBUTION IN PROVIDING ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF AN ORGANIZATION WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO TRULY EXEMPLIFY WHY OUR COUNTY IS NUMBER ONE IN SO MANY WAYS. WHILE WE MAKE RULES AND WE HAVE FUNDING FOR SERVICES, IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE IT WHAT IT IS TODAY, AND YOU CAN'T LEGISLATE THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK JCB FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO THE PARK AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS THEY PROVIDED. ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE, I READ IN THE PAPER THE BACK-AND-FORTH WITH JEA AND THEIR INVESTIGATIONS THAT ARE GOING ON, AND ONE OF THEM CAUGHT MY EYE THAT THE SOUTHERN GROUP WAS SPECIFICALLY HIRED TO MEET WITH AND ENCOURAGE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO VOTE FOR THIS SPORT ENCOURAGE THE SALE OF JEA. I HAVE MET WITH THE SOUTHERN GROUP, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE THERE WAS NO CONVERSATION ABOUT GEAA. BACK IN JULY I MET WITH THEM RELATED TO A NEW EMPLOYEE THEY RECENTLY HIRED AND WE TALKED ABOUT THEIR BACKGROUND.

I HAVE NO NOTES FROM THE MEETING BECAUSE I HAD NO KNOWLEDGE IF THEY WERE HIRED AT THAT TIME AS LOBBYISTS TO ENCOURAGE US TO VOTE FOR THE SALE OF GEAA.

IT WAS DISCOURAGING TO ME BECAUSE I TAKE PEOPLE'S CONVERSATIONS PRETTY MUCH AT FACE VALUE. I CONGRATULATE THEM AND IF THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT AN AGENDA ITEM SAY SO. IF YOU ARE THERE ADVOCATING FOR THE ITEM FOR SOMEONE IN PARTICULAR OTHER THAN THE ITEM IN PARTICULAR, IN ONE OF THE ARTICLES COMMISSIONER BLOCKER

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LET ME KNOW WHAT THEY ARE ADVOCATING FOR.OONER OR LATER AS IT HAS THINGS WILL COME TO LIGHT THAT THOSE RELATIONSHIPS OR AGENDA LIES AND I WONDER IF ANYBODY ELSE HAD THIS EXPERIENCE WITH THAT REGARDING PEOPLE COMING TO US POSSIBLY UNDER THE GUISE OF ONE ITEM WHEN IT TRULY WAS SOMETHING ELSE. I'VE HAD OTHER MEETINGS RELATED TO EASEMENTS FOR OVERHEAD UTILITIES AND DISTRICT 1 AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.

I WANT TO HAVE A DIALOGUE AS SOON AS IT'S POSSIBLE TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT I KNOW AS A COMMISSIONER, AS A RESIDENT WHO LIVES IN THE DISTRICT AND WHAT I HEAR FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN ORDER HOPEFULLY TO MAKE A COLLABORATIVE BEST AND RESULT AS WE HAVE HAD WITH THE AGENDA ITEMS TODAY. OTHER THAN WHAT THE FEW PEOPLE THAT CAME TODAY I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT OPPOSITION TO THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE HAD ON ÃIN OUR MEETING TODAY BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER. THEY WERE DISCUSSING IT, AND NEGOTIATED ITEMS SO THAT EVERYBODY WAS IN A WIN-WIN SITUATION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS HAD THAT EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION A YEAR

OR TWO AGO AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT BACK UP. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> WELL I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT ME TO DISCUSS THIS AND SHE BROUGHT MY NAME UP IN RELATION TO THE ARTICLE > I BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE OF MY NAME WAS BROUGHT UP IN AN ARTICLE THAT I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE WHO TURNED OUT WAS LOBBYING ME AND DID NOT DISCLOSE THAT OR DISCLOSE THEIR INTENTIONS FOR THE MEETING, I FEEL FOR YOU. OT KNOWING ANY OF THE DETAILS, I'M NOT ASKING FOR THE DETAILS BUT I WANTED TO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY OF US TO DISCUSS EXPERIENCES RELATED TO THIS SUBJECT OR ANY OTHERS SO THAT WE CAN JUST HAVE AN

OPEN DIALOGUE AND DISCUSS HOW BEST TO DEAL WITH IT. >> AS YOU KNOW AND AS THE BOARD KNOWS, ANY OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE PUBLIC RECORD.

AT THAT TIME, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM JEA REACH OUT TO ME AND I REACHED OUT TO MIKE WANCHICK WHO WAS OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THEY WANTED TO ORIENT US ON THEIR POSITION.

MY UNDERSTANDING AT THE TIME BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WITH THE MEETING WITH ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS SO MAYBE THEY DIDN'T GET TO YOU YET. BASED ON THAT CONVERSATION THEY HAD SOME INTEREST AND OBVIOUSLY OUR FRANCHFRANCHISING AGREEMENT. NOT THAT HE HAS THE MOST QUIET FOR JEA AND THEY WANTED TO MEET WITH US AND HELP US UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WERE INTERESTED IN CONTINUING THAT RELATIONSHIP GOING FORWARD. IT WAS PURELY INFORMATIONAL.

IT WAS GETTING TO HEAR THE RESPECTIVE ON THAT. IT WAS DIRECTED AT WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF JACKSONVILLE WAS TRYING TO DO BASED ON THAT. I LEFT WITH MORE QUESTIONS THAN I HAD ANSWERS. I FOLLOWED UP WITH MR. WANCHICK AT THE TIME WITH ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS TO MAKE SURE I HAD A GOOD UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE ARE REPRESENTING AND WE HAVE AN AREA LIKE WE DO THAT HAS ALL OF THESE CUSTOMERS AND CLIENTS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE I FULLY UNDERSTOOD THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD.

I FELT IT WAS INFORMATIONAL. I LEFT WITH MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS? >> I DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS

OR QUESTIONS. >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE WAY IT WAS BROUGHT UP WE

ARE CLEAR >> I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN AND THIS SEEMED TO BE AN APPROPRIATE TOPIC TO USE AND IS AN EXAMPLE.

>> YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW-UP BASED ON WHAT IS IT? >> NOT SPECIFIC TO YOUR EXPERIENCE. WE ALL GET CASUAL CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE IN THE GROCERY STORE AND OTHER PLACES. I HEAR FROM PEOPLE AND I WANT TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT'S OF CONCERN OR INTEREST TO THEM SO I CAN FIND THE INDIVIDUALS THE EXPERTS, STAFF OR OTHERWISE THAT CAN GET THE ANSWERS TO THEM. THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO DO AS A COMMISSIONER IS HELP THEM TO PROVIDE INFORMATION SO THEY CAN MAKE DECSIONS IN THEIR LIFE.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THEY ARE GOING WITH IT. THAT'S NOT THE POINT.

IT'S SIMPLY WHEN SOMEONE COMES TO ME ANYMORE CASUAL ATMOSPHERE AND SAYS BY THE WAY, I HEARD WHERE DO I FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION? OR WHERE DO I GO TO GET SOMETHING ABOUT THIS OR WHEN WILL WE HEAR ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS OF THIS CONTRACT FOR THE SALE? I AM SIMPLY WANTING TO KNOW DO I NEED TO RECORD THIS FOR EX PARTE DISCLOSURE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE? AND 2 WHAT AM I IN THIS CONVERSATION TO THIS PERSON? IT'S SIMPLY A MATTER THERE'S NO DIRECT QUESTION ABOUT THAT CONVERSATION BUT IT HIT ME THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MY NAME IN THE PAPER ABOUT A CONVERSATION I HAD WITH SOMEONE THAT APPEARED TO BE A CASUAL LUNCH AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT WAS BROUGHT

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>> WE ARE APPROACHABLE. MY BRAIN CAN'T KEEP IT ALL IN ORDER BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS A PARTICULAR AGENDA. SO I SIMPLY WANTED TO BRING IT UP AS HOW EACH INDIVIDUAL DEALS WITH IT SO THAT I CAN BETTER INTERACT WITH PEOPLE HOPING FOR A GENUINELY POSITIVE HOPE FOR THE

MEETING. >> I WAS PURPOSE OF WHAT THE MEETING WAS IN THE PUNTER FEATURE WAS STILL OUTSIDE THEIR BELIEF THAT THEY FELT IT WAS BETTER TO MAINTAIN WORK SHOULD SHIP WHERE THEY SERVED IT -- I DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE THEY WERE COMING OUT. I WAS AWARE OF THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS, WHICH ISN'T SURPRISING.

THEY SENT US A LETTER NOTIFYING US THAT THERE WAS A TRIGGER. I FELT IT WAS I UNDER -- OBLIGATION TO UNDERSTAND. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR. THOSE MEETINGS ARE PUBLIC AND DISPOSABLE. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT UP AND GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO VERIFY.

>> I THINK PEOPLE HAVE MEETINGS WITH PEOPLE WANTING INFORMATION ANSWERS WHETHER IT'S GEA OR NOT. AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE POSITIVE DIALOGUE. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT IT UP WAS TO BE ABLE TO GLEAN FROM OTHERS EXPERIENCES, COMMISSIONER AND STAFF ASKED TO HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO TWIST LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD. SO THAT WE CAN HAVE AN OPEN DIALOGUE CONVERSATIONS, WHETHER IT'S AN INFORMAL MEETING AT THE GROCERY STORE OR A FORMAL MEETING AS

RECORDED. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE

THAT VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

>> MR. CHAIR, JUST ON A COMMENT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO, I THINK, ADVISE THE BOARD IS YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RE OUT THERE. YOU ARE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. YOU COULD BE PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS AT PUBLIX YET SOMEBODY COMES UP AND SPEAKS WITH YOU. THERE ARE PROS AND CONS TO HAVING A LOBBYING ORDINANCE ETC. THERE'S OVERHEAD COST TO THAT. PROS AND CONS. I WOULD SAY -- AND I THINK COMMISSIONER JOHNS WAS GOING HERE. IT'S NEVER PROPER EARLY IN A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY TO SAY, JUST SO I MAY BE CLEAR ARE YOU REPRESENTING ANYBODY? ARE YOU ASKING ME IN MY OFFICIAL CAPACITY, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YOU SHOULD NOT BE SHY ABOUT BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.

I WAS GOING TO BRING BACK UP THE GEA MATTER. I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT. AS NOW FROM MR. CONRAD'S INITIAL LETTER BASICALLY INTENT TO BRING THE MATTER UP ON THE 21ST, WHICH WAS DONE TODAY. AS FAR AS I KNOW WE HAVE NOT HAD A COME BACK TO THAT; IS THAT

CORRECT. >> AND OF COURSE, THE BOARD AUTHORIZED TODAY THE REQUEST TO NEGOTIATE ON THAT. AND JUST FOR THE BOARDS DISCUSSION HERE, AS PART OF THAT, AT SOME POINT, JEA WILL COME BACK WITH SOME TYPE OF RESPONSE.

AND I WANTED TO SAY YOUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, YOU ARE OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC. IT WOULD BE MY SENSE, THOUGH, THAT FOR ANY KIND OF FUTURE INTERACTION WITH JEA ON THIS PROPOSAL FOR PURCHASE, THAT THE OFFICIAL COMMUNICATIONS GO THROUGH YOUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

THERE'S TWO MAJOR REASONS FOR THAT ONE IS SO THAT IS NOT LEFT HAND, RIGHT HAND, THAT SCENARIO. NUMBER TWO, WE WOULDN'T WANT JEA TO TAKE THE DIVIDE AND CONQUER TYPE THING. IT WOULD BE MY SENSE THAT THOSE OFFICIAL NEGOTIATIONS, WHEN THEY SHOULD OCCUR, BE HELD TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. I WANTED TO BRING IT UP TO GET THE BOARDS SENSE ON THAT THAT THAT MAY BE THE BEST WAY TO PROCEED.

>> THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONER? I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE NOW. LET ME START OFF WITH A MORE SIGNIFICANT ONE. I HAVE -- I SIGNED A LETTER BASED ON OUR BOARD'S RULES AND POLICIES THAT

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THAT WAS SENT BACK IN NOVEMBER. THAT WAS NOVEMBER 21. I HAVE SINCE RECEIVED A LETTER OF APPEAL THAT WAS DATED JANUARY 2. LET ME JUST GO THROUGH THE -- THE MEMBER OF THAT COUNSEL WAS REMOVED BASED ON THE BOARD'S RULES AND POLICIES. LET ME READ THE POLICY.

IF THE APPOINTED BOARD MEMBER OF THE BOARD COMMITTEE FAILS TO ATTEND THREE CONSECUTIVE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS, OR FIVE OF 12 REGULARLY SPECIAL MEETINGS OR WORKSHOPS OF THE BOARD COMMITTEE, THE BOARD COMMITTEE SHALL DECLARE THE MEMBER'S OFFICE VACANT AND THE VACANCY SHALL BE FILLED AS PROVIDED HEREIN UNLESS OTHERWISE PROVIDED BY LAW.

THE STAFF SHALL MAINTAIN A RECORD OF ABSENCES AND ENFORCE THE ATTENDANCE POLICY.

THIS, TO HAVE THE RECORDS OF ATTENDANCE SINCE THIS INDIVIDUAL'S PLACEMENT UPON THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE. IN 2019, HE MISSED 3/7. THOSE WERE CONSECUTIVE HENS THAT PROVOKED A LETTER FOR HIS REMOVAL.

THE NEXT WAS 2018. LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND IT. IN 2018, HE MISSED FOR OUT OF EIGHT MEETINGS. IN 2017, HE MISSED 5 OUT OF 9 AND AT THAT POINT I BELIEVE IT WAS THREE CONSECUTIVE AS WELL.

AND THEN 2016, WHICH WAS ONLY A PARTIAL YEAR OF SERVICE, WHICH CAME INTO -- I THINK HE WAS APPOINTED IN JUNE AND HE ATTENDED 2 OUT OF THE LAST -- HE WAS ABSENT TO OUT OF 6 AS WELL. SO THERE WAS AN ABSENCE THAT WERE DEFINITELY BECOME MORE -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY HABITUAL, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY INDICATIVE OF THIS PARTICULAR MEMBERS RECORD DATA IS ALLOWED THEM FROM ACTUALLY PERFORMING THE TIMES. THERE ARE SOME OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THAT HAVE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS, TOO, THAT HAVE BEEN PARTICIPATION VERY DIFFICULT AND LIKEWISE, A QUORUM.

I SIGNED THE LETTER BECAUSE OF THE BOARD'S RULES AND POLICIES. AND BASED ON THE HISTORY, THIS APPEAL, TO ME IS -- I WANT TO SAY -- AND TRULY, THERE IS A PREMISE BEHIND IT IS BECAUSE OF ACTIVE-DUTY DEPLOYMENT. THIS LAST ONE WAS. BUT BEFORE, WAS NOT NECESSARILY THAT KIND OF RECORD. SO, THERE IS AN APPEAL THAT HAS COME TO BE CONSIDERED. MELISSA, DO YOU HAVE ANY DOCUMENTS THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE REST OF THE BOARD AS WELL? DO YOU HAVE A PACKET? THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE. IF YOU WANT TO BE PRIVY TO THIS, I WILL PASS IT AROUND AND AT THIS POINT AM ASKING FOR YOUR INPUT ON THIS AS WELL.

THE LETTERS ON TOP, THAT'S A LETTER THAT WAS SENT OUT WHICH IS STANDARD FOR COMPLAINTS OF BOARD RULES AND POLICIES. SECOND THE BOARD POLICY IS ON THE THIRD PAGE. HIS RECORDS ARE AFTER THAT. I WILL PASS AROUND AND YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AND I WILL ASK FOR YOUR INPUT IN A MOMENT.

(AWAY FROM MIC). >> WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BOARD RULES AND POLICIES ON THAT. THE CHAIR IS CORRECT ABOUT THAT LANGUAGE. I WILL TELL YOU MY SENSE -- I DO NOT THINK WE HAVE SEEN A COPY OF THIS APPEAL LETTER. I GUESS, RIGHT NOW, WHAT MY SENSE IS IS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT IT AND GO BACK TO THE BOARD RULES AND POLICIES LANGUAGE AND SEE WHAT, IF ANY, ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN BY THE BOARD.

I'M A LITTLE BIT RELUCTANT TO ADVISE THE BOARD TO ACTUALLY MAKE A DECISION TODAY. WHAT I'M THINKING IS OUR OFFICE SHOULD REVIEW THE INITIAL LETTER, THE APPEAL LETTER AND THEN DECIDE YOU KNOW, HOW THE BOARD SHOULD ADDRESS IT. AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE SHOULD BE

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THUS FAR, MR. CHAIR. >> THANK YOU. I CAN DEFINITELY RESPECT THAT. IT'S SOMETHING THEY CAME TO ME AND NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED.

ALL YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT, I'LL MOVE ALONG. JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT, IT WAS CHILLY THIS WEEK AND HAS BEEN, BUT IT'S BEEN VERY WARM, A VERY WARM WINTER WHICH IS LED TO -- THERE CHALLENGING WITH WEEDS WITH WARMER ENVIRONMENT. HARVEST IS IN FULL SWING IN HASTINGS. THEY ARE PLANTING CABBAGE AND IT'S SIMPLE SWING PLANNING POTATOES AT THIS POINT. ONE THING I WANTED TO MAKE MENTION OF, I MENTIONED BACK IN DECEMBER -- THE AGRICULTURE CENTER DIRECTOR REVIEWS WILL BE ON FEBRUARY 5. THAT HAS NOT CHANGED. HOWEVER, THEY DID HAVE A CANDIDATE THAT CAME IN THAT HAS MET WITH SEVERAL STAKEHOLDERS ON THE EIGHTH ON 8 JANUARY AND I SAT ON THAT AS WELL. IT'S OUT OF THE STATE OF THE -- INDIANA, UNIVERSITY PURDUE EMPLOYEE LOOKING FOR EMPLOYMENT HERE WITH OUR RESEARCH FACILITY.

I'M JUST GOING TO BRING SUCH A TOW A COUPLE OF EVENTS TO MINE. ARBOR DAY EVENT WILL BE ON JANUARY 25. THAT IS THIS SATURDAY. I BELIEVE IT STARTS AT 8:30 AM AND GOES ABOUT 11 O'CLOCK OR 11 O'CLOCK OR 11:30 AM NOONTIME. WE HAVE A RIBBON CUTTING DEDICATION THIS SATURDAY, DEDICATION THIS SATURDAY, JANUARY 21 AT NOON AT HASTINGS TRAILHEAD. IT'S A DEDICATION FOR THE HARRISON TRAILHEAD, PARKS AND RECREATION IS BEEN HELPFUL IN PUTTING IT TOGETHER. THE LAST THING I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MENTION AT THIS POINT IS -- IT'S A LITTLE WAYS OUT, BUT I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW THAT THE PUTNAM COUNTY FAIR HAS THE 70 ANNUAL THERE WILL BE MARCH 20 THROUGH THE 28TH. THE REASON I BRING UP IS BECAUSE IT'S THE PUTNAM COUNTY FAIR, BUT IT IS -- MANY OF THE COMPETITIVE LIVESTOCK EVENTS ARE NOW OPEN TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY YOUTH. THAT USED TO NOT BE THE CASE. IT WAS A CLOSE FEAR BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME THEY HAD.

DAVE OPENED IT UP NOW AND MOST RECENTLY THE SWINE SHOW IS AVAILABLE TO OUR -- TO OUR USING ST. JOHNS COUNTY. ST. JOHNS COUNTY YOUTH MAY PARTICIPATE OR COMPETE IN POULTRY, RABBIT, GOVERNANCE WINE COMPETITIONS.

LIKEWISE ADULT THEORIES HAVE BEEN OPEN TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS IN ARTS AND CRAFTS AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK THE PUTNAM COUNTY FAIR BOARD FOR INCLUDING ST. JOHNS COUNTY IT'S A HELPFUL AND THOUGHTFUL THING ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE INVOLVED IN DESIRING TO SHOW TO PARTICIPATE IN THE LIVESTOCK SHOWS. SO, WE WILL WAIT ON THE RECOMMENDATION FROM LEGAL IN THIS PARTICULAR MATTER, BUT IT'S DEFTLY SOMETHING I WANT

YOUR SUPPORT. >> MR. SHERMAN? GREAT QUESTION. I DID NOT SEE A COPY OF THE ORDERS -- I BELIEVE THAT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED FOR EMPLOYMENT. SO, I BELIEVE IT WAS NOT A COPY OF MILITARY ORDERS IN THE PACKET. IF THIS INDIVIDUAL -- I CURRENTLY SERVE IN THE MILITARY. I UNDERSTAND BEING CALLED UP FOR DUTY. BUT THERE IS A REQUIREMENT UNDER FEDERAL LAW THAT EMPLOYERS OR AGENCIES BE COPIES -- I DID NOT SEE A COPY. I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTED TO SEE. NOT THAT WE DON'T TRUST, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO VERIFY.

THE WHOLE PURPOSES OF WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT.

>> IF THERE'S ANY IN THE PAST AS WELL TO BE CONSIDERED, TOO.

ALREADY. I THINK THAT CONCLUDES COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. MOVE ON TO

ADMINISTRATOR. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

YOU RECEIVED A LETTER DATED DECEMBER 23, 2019 FROM THE CULTURAL RESOURCES REVIEW BOARD NEXT YEAR WOULD BE ST. JOHNS COUNTY'S 200 YEAR IN EXISTENCE AND SO, WHETHER OR NOT OR WHAT DIRECTION YOU WOULD LIKE YOUR STAFF TO MOVE IN LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL OR POSSIBLE BICENTENNIAL CELEBRATION. I'LL LEAVE THAT TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AS TO WHAT, IF ANY, YOU WANT TO PROVIDE STAFF TO BE IN THE PLANNING PROCESS OF THAT.

>> ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD AND DIRECTION? THAT DEFTLY IS A VERY -- IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE ENDEAVOR. WAS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? ANY COMMENTS? WILL

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COMMISSIONER DEAN WILL WILL. >>HENRY DEAN: I'D LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE FUN. I THINK I'LL HAVE THOUGHTS, BUT AS I SIT HERE THIS AFTERNOON, I'M SORT OF BLANK. I DON'T HAVE ANY STRONG -- WE DON'T NEED A MAJOR EXTRAVAGANZA AND SPEND A LOT OF TAX DOLLARS. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT WE WERE THE FIRST COUNTY IN FLORIDA AND UPON 1821 BECOMING A TERRITORY.

SO I GUESS HAVE TO SAY -- I'LL LET THAT SLIDE.

>> WE WILL LET THAT SLIDE. (LAUGHING).

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCK. >> IF WE COULD ASK OUR STAFF ABOUT WHAT OTHER COUNTIES HAVE DONE? I KNOW SOME HAVE DONE GREAT ESPECIALLY EXTRAVAGANZAS.

OR SOMETHING FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS. I'D LIKE TO USE AN EXAMPLE IF WE GO THIS DIRECTION, THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WE GO THIS DIRECTION SOMETHING STRAIGHTFORWARD, DEFTLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT CELEBRATED. SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION WITH THE BOARD AGREEMENT AND CONSENSUS.

>> MR. CONRAD, THAT LETTER DID PRESENT SOME OPTIONS SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT WERE DISCUSSING HERE. COUNSEL HAD COME UP WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE RECOMMENDING WORK FOR CONSIDERATION?

>> IF YOU DON'T MIND IF YOU WOULD BEAR WITH ME FOR A MINUTE. I'LL REDO OFF THE SEVEN BULLET POINTS THAT THEY PROVIDED US RECOMMENDATIONS.

A PUBLIC SURVEY TO DIE -- REACH OUT TO THE CITIES OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH, FLAGLER COLLEGE, SAINT AUGUSTINE HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO HELP IN THE CELEBRATION. PREPARE A WEBSITE AND/OR BROCHURE FOR SELF-GUIDED TOURS. THIS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IN TWO WAYS. IT CAN BE USED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR RATHER THAN JUST A ONE-TIME EVENT AND A WEBSITE OR BROCHURE CAN PROVIDE EASY INFORMATION TO EXPLORE ALL AREAS OF OUR COUNTY.

NEXT BULLET WAS A BUS TOUR THROUGHOUT ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

JOSCLECTURE SERIES ABOUT THE HISTORY OF ST. JOHN'S.

>> HOST A CONCERT EVENT. AND THE LAST POINT IS PREVENT SIGNS TO -- PRESENT SIGNS.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNS? >>JAMES JOHNS: I LIKE THE IDEA OF ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY. SENT OUT A MEDIA BLAST TO SAY DID YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THE COUNTY DO IN CELEBRATION OF IT? TALK TO OTHERS WHO ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF CELEBRATING AND MARKETING TO COME UP WITH IDEAS AND SEE WHAT TAX REVENUE IS AVAILABLE.

I DO NOT WANT TO DO AN EXTENSIVE EXTRAVAGANZA AT TAXPAYERS COST. IT'S EASY AND FUN UNTIL YOU HAVE TO PAY THE BILL. AND THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK PEOPLE IN THE EYE AND SAY BY THE WAY WE HAVE A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BUDGET THAT WE DIDN'T CONTEND TO. WE WANT TO SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE AND I DON'T MEAN JUST TO CELEBRATE, BUT TO CARRY ON THE CELEBRATION. MANY

HANDS MAKES THE WORKLOAD LIGHT. >> YOU ACTED LIKE YOU HAD A

RECOMMENDATION. >> WELL, THE RECOMMENDATION IS COMING FROM THE COUNCIL ARE VERY ECONOMICAL. YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO TRY TO CELEBRATE BUT NOT A HUGE COST OR PRODUCTION. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THERE'S ONLY TWO COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AT ONE TIME. I GUESS THE SUWANEE RIVER WAS A SPLIT WHICH I GUESS WE COULD HAVE A JOINT MEETING. WE COULD HAVE LUNCH WITH THE OTHER BORDER

SOMETHING. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, WITH THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD FOR DIRECTION FOR STAFF WE NEED A LITTLE TIME TO THINK IT THROUGH. POTENTIALLY MEDIA BLAST. WITH CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD, WHAT WE COULD DO IS AN OPTION SO WE STAY ON TOP OF THIS THAT IT DOESN'T COME UP SIX MONTHS LATER WE'VE GOT 18 MONTHS NOW. I DON'T WANT TO BE AT THE 12 MONTH MARK TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. WE CAN COMMUNITY -- BEGIN WITH A COMMUNICATIONS POLLING AND COMMUNICATING WITH THE -- OUR CONSTITUENCY

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>> I'D LIKE TO SEE THE COST SIDE OF IT.

>> YES, SIR. >> ONE WE STICK WITH THAT 30 DAY TIME LIMIT WE TALKED ABOUT. WHAT YOU COME BACK IN 30 DAYS BRIEF US ON WHAT THOSE -- THAT WE CAN GET FURTHER DIRECTION SO THIS DOESN'T FALL OFF THE -- OFF TRACK HERE. I THINK THE STATE OF FLORIDA CAN TAKE MAJOR PROJECTS AND HAVE ALL THESE AGENTS GET A REVIEW AND 30 DAYS. I'M CONFIDENT YOU CAN COME BACK AND GIVE THE BOARD A BRIEFING ON THE SURVEY IN THE NEXT STEPS WE NEED TO DO. LET'S TRY TO STOP EARLY DAYS. -- 30 DAYS. WILL WILL.

>> ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT IS BEEN BROUGHT ACROSS THE ABILITY TO SEE MINUTES FROM THE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES AT THE COUNTY HAS THAT MEAT. ONE THING THE STAFF HAS DONE IS PUT TOGETHER A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS ALLOW THE MEETINGS TO BE POSTED WITHIN 30 DAYS OF CONFIRMATION OF THE MINUTES. SO IF THERE WAS A MEETING ONCE A MONTH THOSE MEETINGS, ONCE THEY REFER MAY BE POSTED WITHIN 30 DAYS.

WE WOULD BEGIN TO PUT THOSE ON THE WEBSITE SO THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THAT.

IT REQUIRES A LITTLE BIT OF A POLICY CHANGE. SO YOU BEEN GIVEN THE INFORMATION THAT IS SOMETHING AT THE BOARD MEETING WE COULD PROPOSE THAT PROPOSED POLICY CHANGE OF THE BOARD IS IN AGREEMENT THAT WE WANT TO MOVE NOT DIRECTION TO PROVIDING ALL MINUTES. SO THE COMMUNICATION LOOK AT THE MEETING.

>> AT THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD. AT THE NEXT MEETING WE CAN HAVE THAT IS NOT?

>> YES, SIR. >> ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE MR.

SLATER CREDIT FOR THAT? >> .

>> MR. SLEVIN, YOU ARE THE REASON THIS HAS COME BEFORE THE BOARD. I THINK YOU HAVE INDICATED MANY TIMES. IT WAS THROUGH MR. -- I KNOW OTHER MEMBERS HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN

AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> YES, SIR. COMMISSIONER DEAN ASKED AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING IF WE COULD LOOK INTO THE 5G.

THIS WAS BRIEFLY TOUCHED ON EARLIER. WE ARE WORKING TOWARD THE 5G WORKSHOP. WE WILL COORDINATE THAT WITH YOUR CALENDARS. WE HAVE TWO DATES. WE ARE WORKING ON COORDINATING WITH EACH OF YOUR CALENDARS TO MAKE THAT AVAILABLE. WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE POTENTIAL MEETINGS IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH TO WORKSHOP THE 5G. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. SHARE.

>> MR. SHARON GOING TO START OFF 20/20 WITH NO REPORT.

>> WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE THE BOARD?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.