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COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY BOARD WILL NOW COME TO ORDER, WILL YOU PLEASE RISE AND JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU.
AND MISS SPIEGEL WILL YOU PLEASE READ THE PUBLIC NOTICE STATEMENT AS SOON AS I TURN YOUR MICROPHONE?
>> YES, SIR, THANK YOU. THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN CONCURRENCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW. THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TO THE AGENCY'S AREA OF JURISDICTION, AND BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER COMMENT AT A DESIGNATED TIME DURING THE HEARING PERIOD FOR THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIME DURING THE MEETING ON EACH ITEM AND FOR LENGTH OF TIME AS DESIGNATED BY THE CHAIRMAN WOOD SHALL BE 3 MINUTES. THE SPEAKER SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, WHO THEY WERE PRESENT AND THEN STATE THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIMONY. IF THEY DO NOT, THE FACT THE TESTIMONY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED BY THE AGENCY IN DETERMINING THE WEIGHT OR TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY.
IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION WITH RESPECT TO ANY MATTER CONSIDERED AT THE HEARING, SUCH PERSON WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE.
WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL. ANY PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENTARY HEARING SUCH AS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS, PHOTOGRAPHS OR WRITTEN STATEMENTS SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE CLERK FOR INCLUSION INTO THE RECORD. THE RECORD WILL THEN BE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER BOARD, AGENCIES, COMMITTEE OR COUNTY IN REVIEW OF APPEAL RELATING TO THE.
AGENCY MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT THE BEGINNING OF EACH ITEM THEY SHOULD STATE WHETHER THEY HAD ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT OR ANY OTHER PERSON REGARDING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ITEM OUTSIDE OF THE FORMAL HEARING OF THE AGENCY.
OF SUCH COMMUNICATION HAS OCCURRED THE AGENCY MEMBERS SHOULD THEN IDENTIFY THE PERSONS INVOLVED AND THE MATURE CONTENT OF COMMUNICATION. STABILITY CLAUSE CIVILITY.
WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL TO ONE ANOTHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE.
WE WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THE ISSUES AND AVOID PERSONAL
[PZA Meeting Minutes for Agency Approval: 04/16/2026 ]
NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS ARE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING ON APRIL 16TH. DO WE HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS OR AMENDMENTS TO THAT? OR EMOTION? SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MISS PERKINS? ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[Public Comments]
OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.NOW IS THE TIME FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF YOU ARE HERE FOR AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME UP AND COME TO ONE OF THE MICROPHONES AND LET US HEAR FROM YOU FOR 3 MINUTES TAG ANYTHING YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK AGAIN WHEN THAT ITEM COMES UP 3 ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK NOW PLEASE DO IT.
>> DOCTOR BEFORE WE START PUBLIC COMMENT I WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO TABLE ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT TAG AND MOVE THEM TO THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING ON JUNE FOURTH 2026. WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE STATE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MOVE THAT FORWARD CORRECTLY. THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT EITHER OF THOSE TWO ITEMS I COULD TALK ABOUT IT IN PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THEM TODAY.
>> I THINK A CONTINUANCE OR TABLING IS IN ORDER, HENRY APPARENTLY WANTS TO PROVIDE THE MOTION?
>> WE WILL ENABLE THEM TO JUNE FOURTH, WE HAVE TO GET THE DATE CERTAIN OR HAVE IT RE-ADVERTISED.
>> YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT NOW WE ARE READY FOR
[1. SUPMAJ 2026-03 Rudis Jiujitsu. Request for a Special Use Permit, pursuant to Section 2.03.43 of the Land Development Code, to allow for Indoor Commercial Recreation in Industrial Warehousing (IW) zoning, specifically located at 5130 Crescent Technical Court.]
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THE FIRST ITEM, IF YOU EVER NEED EX PARTE, THIS IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR RUDIS JIUJITSU, MISS SPIEGEL?>> YES, I HAD A PHONE CALL WITH MR. KEVIN MCDANIEL.
I DON'T SEE -- I. COULD NOT TELL BY YOUR VOICE THAT'S WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE! AND I DID A SITE VISIT TODAY.
>> MR. LABANOWSKI? >> I VISITED THE SITE.
>> ANYBODY ELSE? SEEING NONE THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. I AM PRESENTING FOR KEVIN MCDANIEL, MY BUSINESS PARTNER ON THIS.
5130 CRESCENT TECHNICAL COURT. WE ARE APPLYING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR RUDIS JIUJITSU, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN -- WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION ON THIS MATTER -- QUICK BIO AND WHO WE ARE.
MY NAME IS DANIEL, I'M A LOCAL COMMERCIAL CONTRACTOR AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY, MY WIFE REBECCA IS A TENURED ENGLISH PROFESSOR WITH ST. JOHNS RIVER STATE COLLEGE.
I HAVE TWO AMAZING CHILDREN ONE OF WHICH IS MY SON, A 26-YEAR-OLD BOXER AND A FIREFIGHTER AND MY DAUGHTER IS A 12-YEAR-OLD NATIONALLY RANKED JIU JITSU COMPETITOR, ONE OF 11 KIDS IN THE COUNTRY TO BE ON TEAM USA.
MY BUSINESS PARTNER ANDI, ST. AUGUSTINE NATIVE, RESPIRATORY THERAPIST IN THE TRAUMA DEPARTMENT, LIFE AS A REGISTERED NURSE WE HAVE THREE AMAZING CHILDREN TWO BOYS, FOUR AND 16 YEARS OLD, 15-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER, WHO IS NOT ONLY A LONG TIME JIU JITSU PRACTITIONER BUT ALSO AN EXTREMELY HARD WORKING WRESTLER. WE WILL BE THE ONLY NATIVE OWNED ACADEMY IN THE SAINT AUGUSTINE, OUR DRIVING PASSION FROM THIS COMES FROM OUR DESIRE TO OFFER A SAFE AND PRODUCTIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR CHILDREN TO THRIVE, THROUGH HARD WORK AND CONSISTENCY. WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER FAMILY-FRIENDLY ATMOSPHERE WHERE PEOPLE OF ALL AGES AND LEVELS CAN BE COMFORTABLE. OUR GOAL FOR THE FUTURE IS OF COURSE TO OBTAIN A RETAIL SPACE IN A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA WITH SIGNAGE, BUT STARTING OUT TAG IT IS VERY VITAL FOR US TO BE IN A FINANCIAL SITUATION THAT IS SUSTAINABLE, DEVELOPING PROOF OF CONCEPT AND BUILDING A PLAN FOR FUTURE EXPANSION.
THIS CURRENT LOCATION FITS ALL OF THOSE NEEDS PERFECTLY.
WE UNDERSTAND THE LIMITATIONS THAT HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA AND WE WILL 100% OPERATE WITHIN THOSE BOUNDARIES. WE ARE BOTH FINANCIALLY STABLE WITHOUT AN INCOME FROM THE ACADEMY AND OUR PROCEEDING DOES NOT OUT OF PROFIT DRIVEN VENTURE, BUT AS A PASSION DRIVEN DREAM WITH A HARD FOCUS ON QUALITY OVER QUANTITY.
PERSONALLY I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SURROUNDING BUSINESSES WHO FULLY SUPPORT US OPENING THERE AND HAVE ZERO CONCERNS OF A NEGATIVE IMPACT. IN FACT THEY HAVE ALL BEEN VERY ENTHUSIASTIC TO HAVE US ON THE PROPERTY OPERATING OPPOSITE OF THEIR REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS AND KEEPING AN EYE ON THEIR ASSETS WITH A WATCHFUL EYE. DO I NEED TO READ ALL THE VERBIAGE? KIND OF LISTS THROUGH THE SAME THING WE ARE REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE 5210 CRESCENT TECHNICAL COURT, THE UNIT ITSELF IS COMPLETELY INSULATED WITH A FULL BATHROOM, WATER FOUNTAIN, ROAD ACCESS ADEQUATE TO BE DEALING WITH THE PROPER SIGNAGE, AVAILABLE PARKING ON SITE, LARGE EASEMENT SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY ALLOWING FOR ADDITIONAL OVERFLOW, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT BUFFER BETWEEN THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AREA, THERE IS NO ISSUES OR NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THAT.
THE SCHEDULE IS OPPOSITE OF THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES WHICH WILL OFFSET INFLOW OF TRAFFIC, THERE SHOULD BE ZERO NEGATIVE IMPACT WORKING WITH THEM ALSO. SOME OVERVIEW THOUGHTS OF THE PROPERTY, CRESCENT TECHNICAL COURT, A DEAD END AND KIND OF A CUL DE SAC SHAPED PROPERTY AT THE END OF THE ROAD.
THERE IS SOME PLANNING FOR NEW BUILDINGS BUT AGAIN IT IS NOT WITHIN THE EASEMENT OR ANY WAY AROUND.
THE LAND MAPS HAVE ALLOWED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS BEING BUILT IN CUTS BUT THE EASEMENT THAT EXISTS ON THE CURRENT
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PROPERTY WILL AGAIN KEEP THEM AWAY -- WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY NOISE ISSUES, EVERYTHING IS INTERIOR INSIDE THE FACILITIES FOR THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES THAT ARE INDUSTRIAL WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE MORE NEGATIVE IMPACTS IN ASPECT OF THOSE THE LOCATION MAP IS OFF OF WATSON ROAD.FRONT OF US ONE, IN THE FUTURE ONCE WE CAN PROVE CONCEPT AND GET ESTABLISHED, WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE LOOKING TO MOVE OFF OF US ONE INTO A RETAIL SPACE WHERE THERE WAS A BETTER FLOW OF TRAFFIC, MORE SIGNAGE AND TRIED TO EXPAND FROM THERE BUT OUR PLANS IN THE SPECIFIC FACILITY HAD WE ALREADY KIND OF HAVE A PATH IN MIND FOR WHAT FITS THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC, HOURS OF OPERATION, HOW MANY PEOPLE WE CAN HAVE IN AND OUT, AND IT WILL BE VERY EASY FOR US TO MEET PROFIT AND AGAIN THAT IS NOT OUR MAIN GOAL AT THIS POINT. WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO EXPAND BEYOND WHAT WOULD BE PROFITABLE AND NOT A NEGATIVE IMPACT.
ZONING MAP -- I THINK THAT IS ABOUT IT FROM ME.
>> OKAY ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD BEFORE -- I. THINK I SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD WE APPRECIATE YOU GOING AROUND AND SPEAKING TO ALL THE BUSINESSES AND THAT THEY SUPPORTED.
I SUPPOSE YOU DID NOT SPEAK TO ANY NEIGHBORS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD? >> THE EASEMENT BETWEEN THE BUSINESS AND THE IS SIGNIFICANT. IT IS A QUARTER TO HALF A BLOCK BEFORE YOU CAN GET TO THE HOMES AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT DID NOT SEEM TO BE AS IMPORTANT TO ME PETER THE GUYS IN THE BUSINESS AREA, THEY WERE OPEN TO -- I. WAS GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE LETTER WRITTEN AND SIGNED FROM THEM BUT THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF US BEING IN THEIR. I DID NOT WANT TO OVER PRESENT
AND JUST KIND OF KEEP IT BASIC. >> WE APPRECIATE THAT.
ALL RIGHT MISS SPIEGEL? >> HIGH.
REALLY AROUND THE CORNER FROM MY HOUSE.
SO I AM EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I ACTUALLY HAVE A PERSON IN MY HOUSEHOLD WHO WOULD REALLY LOVE THIS, WE WILL SEE HOW THAT GOES.
I HAVE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A CONFLICT BECAUSE YOU STATED YOUR HOURS WILL BE FROM FOUR TO 830 AND YOUR CONDITIONS YOU HAVE FIVE TO 830. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT IT'S FIVE TO 830, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU -- AND THE PARKING THING. IF THEY ARE DONE AND THEY ARE GONE AND THERE'S ROOM, BUT I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.
I THINK IT IS A GOOD VENTURE AND A GOOD LOCATION FOR TEST DRIVE.
APPRECIATED THE LOCAL BUSINESS. >> FANTASTIC.
GIVEN THE LEASE THERE IS A LOT OF FLAT SPACE, ADDITIONAL STORAGE AND PARKING WITH THE BUILDING OUTSIDE OF THE PARKING CENTER THAT IS IN THE -- THIS KIND OF CREATES A CUL DE SAC, THAT IS TWO STRIPS OF WAREHOUSES WITH PARKING SPOTS IN THE MIDDLE. BEHIND US WE HAVE PROBABLY A QUARTER ACRE OF ADDITIONAL PARKING GARAGE STORAGE AREA BACK THERE. WE HAVE A POINT TO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING AND WE WILL LIKELY USE THAT BACK AREA FOR THE
MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC. >> I COULD BE WRONG, I COULD ASK, IS THAT A PART OF THE CONDITION TO HAVE THE SORT OF THING? THAT THEY ARE KIND OF WORKING
OPPOSITE HOURS? >> YES, MA'AM, JACOB SMITH, THROUGH THE CHAIR, WHAT ARE YOUR PHRASING IS SAYING DOES IT HAVE TO BALANCE OUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION FROM THE INDUSTRIAL PARK TO THE COMMERCIAL RECREATION? NOT NECESSARILY, HOWEVER WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ADEQUATE PARKING THERE AND SO BY SETTING ASIDE HOURS OF OPERATION SORT OF OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL FOR THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK, IT TAKES CARE OF -- THAT WAS ONE OF MY CONCERNS WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS, THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF EXCESS PARKING, WE KNOW COMMERCIAL RECREATION OFTENTIMES DRIVES A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE.
SEEMS TO BE HANDLED BASED ON THE EVENING HOURS THAT ARE PROPOSED, AND I WILL SAY FOR THE APPLICANT'S BENEFIT IF HE DID WANT TO OR TO ASK FOR AN ADJUSTMENT, IT IS WRITTEN IN HERE, MISS SPIEGEL AS YOU POINTED OUT A, 5PM UNTIL 8:30.
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IF WE NEEDED MORE FLEXIBILITY, NOW IS THE TIME TO MAKE THAT ANDADDRESS THAT. >> WE CAN CHANGE THAT CONDITION IN THE MOTION AND SEE IF EVERYBODY VOTES FOR THAT.
>> CURRENTLY THAT 4:00 UNTIL 5:00 SLOT WOULD SERVE THE YOUNGEST STUDENTS. YOU ARE TALKING 4-YEAR-OLD TO SIX YEARS OLD. THAT WOULD BE THE LOWEST ATTENDED CLASS GIVEN STATISTICS ACROSS THE BOARD.
YOU END UP MAYBE FOUR TO SIX KIDS MAX IN THERE PERIOD EVEN WITH THE CURRENT PARKING SITUATION, IT WOULDN'T CAUSE DISTURBANCE FOR THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES.
NONE OF THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES ARE IN A SITE ON A SITE OPERATING BUSINESSES, THEY ARE ALL BASICALLY USED AS A STORAGE FACILITY -- WE HAVE KONA ICE DIRECTLY IN THAT STORE.
THE THREE TRUCKS THEY SHOW UP WITH AT RANDOM HOURS TO LOAD UP WITH ICE AND THEY ARE OFF PROPERTY.
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COMPLEX THERE IS AN ELECTRICAL COMPANY, A FISH TANK COMPANY, HAD A COUPLE GUYS THAT MAKE EPOXY TABLES. THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES REALLY ON SITE THROUGHOUT THE DAY BESIDES ONE AT THE END OF OUR STRIP THAT DOES CUSTOM WRAPS ON VEHICLES AND HE WORKS INSIDE HIS UNIT.
NONE OF THEM ARE SERVING LARGE FOR TRAFFIC LIMITATIONS BUT IT IS A CONCERN OF US AND IT IS SOMETHING WE WILL MANAGE
PROPERLY. >> IT IS A GOOD SPACE, I WAS OUT OF THERE THIS MORNING, I LOOKED PEOPLE.
I WISH YOU LUCK AND CONGRATULATIONS THAT YOUR DAUGHTER IS THAT GOOD. SO THAT IS PRETTY COOL.
>> FOUR AND A HALF, CONFIRMATION AS FAR AS THE ADDRESS IS CONCERNED APPLICATION SHOWS 5130 CRESCENT, WE JUST PRESENTED IT
WAS 5210, UNIT THREE. >> CAN YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE? SO WE CAN GET IT ON RECORDING.
YES, SO PEOPLE WE ARE RENTING FROM, THE LEASE, I GUESS BECAUSE IT IS A NEWER WAREHOUSE IT WASN'T OFFICIALLY CHANGED TO 5210 EVEN THOUGH THAT IS THE CORRECT ADDRESS ON GOOGLE MAPS AND ALL THAT, BUT WHEN THE FACILITY WAS PUT UP SHE SAID IT'S 5310 FOUL SELL -- 5130. THAT IS THE ONE ON THE APPLICATION EVEN THOUGH IT IS TECHNICALLY 5210.
>> IT'S THE 911 ADDRESS THAT YOU WANT TO USE?
>> I HAVE ONLY KNOWN IT AS 5210, I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT ONCE YOU GOOGLE SEARCHED THE ANDROID'S TAG 5210, THAT IS THE DRIVE.
I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT CLARITY. >> MR. CHAIR I WILL GIVE SOME CLARIFICATION OF THIS APPLICATION WAS APPROVED IT IS A TITLE NOT JUST FOR THE ADDRESS BUT IT DOES HAVE 5130 BUT ALSO THE PARCEL I.D. TAG WHICH WAS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY PARCEL, FROM PLANNING STAFF STANDPOINT THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHERE THIS IS LOCATED OR WHERE IT IS ALLOWED TO OPERATE.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD SEEING NONE IS THERE ANYBODY HERE IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER? SEEING NONE WE ARE BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR DISCUSSION, MOTION AND VOTING.
MISS SPIEGEL? >> IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION, I WILL MOVE IT ALONG. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SPECIAL USE PERMIT MAJOR 2026-03 RUDIS JIUJITSU BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT WITH A CHANGE OF OPERATING HOURS FROM FOUR TO 8:30 INSTEAD OF
SECOND BY MR. LABANOWSKI. ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NONE --
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>> HOLD ON, TO CLARIFY, YOU INTEND FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE FROM 4PM UNTIL 8:30? WHAT YOU ACTUALLY SAID WAS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, JUST MAKING SURE IT'S ON THE RECORD
CORRECTLY. >> OKAY WITH THAT NOTE LET'S TAKE THE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY
[2. ZVAR 2025-31 Glisson Variance (2260 Whippoorwill). Request for a Zoning Variance to Table 6.01 of the Land Development Code (LDC) to allow for a reduced Side Yard setback from the required eight (8) feet to two (2) feet, as measured from the eave, and LDC Table 6.01 to allow for a reduced Front Yard setback from the required twenty-five (25) feet to twenty-four (24) feet, as measured from the structural framing, to accommodate placement of a proposed carport in Residential, Manufactured/Mobile Home or Single Family [RMH(S)] zoning, specifically located at 2260 Whippoorwill Drive.]
CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME NINEMAC NEXT WE HAVE A ZONING VARIANCE FOR THE GLISSON VARIANCE, AND CHET GLISSON WILL BE THE PRESENTER, DO WE HAVE ANY EXPERT? MISS SPIEGEL.
>> YES, I DID A SITE VISIT THIS MORNING TO YOUR LOVELY
NEIGHBORHOOD. >> MR. LABANOWSKI.
>> I DID A SITE VISIT AS WELL. >> ANYBODY ELSE? SEEING NONE THE FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR.
>> OKAY, I DID NOT KNOW THE BIO WAS IMPORTANT BUT I AM CHET GLISSON, BORN HERE IN 1951 AND THE FLORIDA EAST HOSPITAL.
[LAUGHS] THIS IS A SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY, TO BE BUILT OVER MY EXISTING CONCRETE PARKING AREA.
I NEED TO SET THIS BACK FROM THIS SIDE, WITH A ROOF CORNER STICKING OUT ONCE IT WAS A 25-FOOT SETBACK.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD REQUIRED ME TO DO THIS DRAWING TO SHOW THEM WHAT I WAS TRYING TO BUILD BEFORE I CAN GET THE HOA APPROVAL. THAT IS THE PLANNED VIEW SIDE ELEVATION. ALUMINUM STRUCTURE.
THAT'S THE FEATURE THEY'RE SHOWING TO THE DRIVEWAY AREA.
AND THIS IS THE SIDE NEXT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY WHERE THE SETBACK IS AND THAT IS ALL HEAVILY WOODED THERE, MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR CANNOT SEE MY HOUSE AND I CANNOT SEE HIS HOUSE FROM BEHIND BECAUSE OF THAT. AND ALSO MOST OF THE WOODS IS TALL PINE TREES, ALL OF OUR VEHICLES GET COVERED IN PINE SAP AND PINE NEEDLES STUCK IN IT SO THAT IS A CONSTANT THING TO CLEAN UP, AND SEVERAL OF THESE CARPORTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUILT BY THE SAME CONTRACTOR AS I AM USING.
IT GOES WELL WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S ABOUT IT.
NINEMAC LET ME ASK YOU VERY QUICK WE ARE SEEKING THE 1 FOOT
-- >> ON THE SIDE, 2 FEET AN OVERHANG ON THE FRONT CORNER THEOREM.
>> WHICH IS A PRETTY REASONABLE REQUEST.
>> MR. LABANOWSKI? >> THE ONLY QUESTION AND A HALF, HOW FAR OFF THE PROPERTY LINE IS THE CURRENT CONCRETE SLAB RIGHT
NOW CORRECT THE DRIVEWAY? >> 6 FEET.
THE FRONT AND 4 FEET AT THE BACK.
>> YOU WILL EXTEND OUT PAST THAT.
>> THE POST WILL BE ON THE CONCRETE SO IT WILL STILL BE 6 FEET FROM THE LINE AT THE FRONT, THE 2-FOOT OVERHANG IS WHAT YOU ARE MEASURING TOO FOR SETBACK, 2 FEET.
>> THANKS. NINEMAC ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? SEEING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS? YES COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY FOR 3 MINUTES.
>> YES, THANK YOU. I AM THE NEIGHBOR, MY NAME IS PAUL, I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM TRET AND I WAS HERE JUST A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO TO HAVE ALMOST THE EXACT SAME VARIANCE VOTED ON AND YOU APPROVED IT 100%.
AND MISS SPIEGEL WAS VERY NICE AND CAME OVER AND LOOKED AT MY HOUSE. AND YOU DID NOT SHOW THEM MY
[LAUGHS] >> I JUST WANT TO SAY IT WAS A HUGE IMPROVEMENT TO MY HOUSE, IT IMPROVED THE PROPERTY VALUE.
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EVEN THE RUNOFF THAT USED TO HIT MY DRIVEWAY AND RAN OUT INTO THE STREET NOW GOES INTO THE GUTTERS AND MY YARD.I SEE NO NEGATIVE TO HIM DOING THE SAME THING.
HE BASICALLY GOT THE VERY SAME CARPORT BEING BUILT AS I HAVE.
IT REALLY IMPROVED THE LOOK OF MY HOUSE AND I GOT A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS ON IT. THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAD TO SAY.
I SUPPORT HIM DOING THIS. NINEMAC GREAT, APPRECIATE THAT THANK YOU. SEEING NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE ARE BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR DISCUSSION, MOTION AND VOTING.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD?
MISS PERKINS? >> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE ZVAR 2025-31 TRANNINE 11 BASED ON THE FACT AND
COMMISSION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION.
MR. LABANOWSKI OR MR. GREEN, YOU DECIDE.
PRETTY MUCH A TOSS UP, WE HAVE TWO SECONDS.
GIVE A NOD, ANY DISCUSSION? >> I WOULD LIKE A BRIEF DISCUSSION, WE HAVE APPROVED LOOKS LIKE IN THE STAFF REPORT LIKE 40 VARIANCES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M SURE WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
>> WE HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 2004 WHEN THE AIRPORTS DECIDED TO BUY OUT OUR OLD NEIGHBORHOOD. [LAUGHS]
>> ALL RIGHT IT APPEARS WE ARE READY TO TAKE THE VOTE.
[3. MINMOD 2026-03 Volcano Japanese Cuisine. Request for a Minor Modification to the Six Mile Creek PUD (ORD. 1991-37, as amended) to allow for the sale and consumption of Alcoholic Beverages within 1,000 feet of a Church in connection with a proposed restaurant specifically located at 180 Registry Boulevard. ]
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY CONGRATULATIONS.>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> NEXT WE HAVE A MINOR MODIFICATION FOR VOLCANO JAPANESE CUISINE, TING TING WANG IS THE PRESENTER, IS THERE ANY EX PARTE DE?
MR. LABANOWSKI. >> I WAS FOUL VISIT THE SITE ONCE A WEEK IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME -- I. VISITED
THE SITE ONCE A WEEK. >> MISS SPIEGEL?
>> I DON'T VISIT THE SITE WEEKLY BUT I DID GO TO THE.
>> THE FLOOR IS YOURS. YOU MAY PROCEED.
NINEMAC OKAY, THANK YOU. WE ARE LOCATED AT 180 REGISTRY BOULEVARD AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING VOLCANO JAPANESE CUISINE, WE WANT TO ALLOW TWO TENMAC FOR THE SALE OF CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL BEVERAGE WITH OUR FULL SERVICE JAPANESE RESTAURANT. SORRY.
SO IT IS A RESTAURANT, WE SERVE JAPANESE CUISINE AND DINING EXPERIENCE, AND WHAT'S THIS WE THINK ALCOHOL WILL BE AN ACCESSORY TO FULL SERVICE AND DINING OPERATION.
IT IS NOT INTENDED TO FUNCTION AS A STAND ALONE BAR.
SO BASICALLY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE LOCATED, THIS IS OUR BUILDING.
AND WE BELIEVE THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH ITS
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SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL RESTAURANTS IN THE AREA.THANK YOU. >> CAN YOU PUT THE LAST SLIDE BACK UP? I DO NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO READ
IT, I AM A SLOW READER. >> OKAY.
>> I THINK IT WAS THE NEXT ONE -- 2I TWO I HAD A I DON'T THINT MATTERS AT THIS POINT. THAT'S FINE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? SEEING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM SEEING NONE, WE ARE BACK IN THE AGENCY FOR DISCUSSION AND MOTION AND VOTING,
MR. LABANOWSKI? >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION BUT ALSO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT TAG THE A BC IS FOR RIGHT ACROSS THE PARKING LOT FROM THIS PARK WE DID APPROVE THE EXCEPTION FOR THAT BEING THE LOCATION OF THE CHURCH PERIOD AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MINMOD 2026-03 VOLCANO JAPANESE CUISINE BASED ON FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONDITIONS
READ BY THE STAFF. >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND BY MISS PERKINS.
ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NONE WE WILL VOTE.
THAT PASSES -- WE HAD ONE OTHER PERSON -- THAT PASSES 5-1.
CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU.
>> QUICK QUESTION WHEN DO YOU PLAN ON OPENING?
>> WE STILL HAVE A FEW INSPECTIONS WE LOOK FORWARD TO OPEN NEXT MONTH EITHER NEXT MONTH, PROBABLY NEXT MONTH I
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKING HOW LONG TAG WE ARE TRYING OUR BEST TO OPEN AS SOON AS WE CAN.
[4. MAJMOD 2026-02 Ashford Mills PUD. Request for a Major Modification to the Ashford Mills PUD (Ord. 2006-119, as amended) to modify the Master Development Plan (MDP) Text and Map, specifically for the designated commercial use property located at the intersection of Shearwater Parkway and County Road 210 West; (Parcel #009945-0100).]
>> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE MAJOR MODIFICATION FOR ASHFORD MILLS PUD WITH BLAIR KNIGHTING TO BE PRESENTER AND WE
NEED EX PARTE, MISS SPIEGEL? >> YES, I DID A SITE VISIT AND HAD A COUPLE EMAILS WITH THE MEMBERS.
>> MR. GREEN? >> VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, USED TO SIT ON THE CBD MANY YEARS AGO.
DO NOT ANY MORE. >> MR. LABANOWSKI.
>> I VISITED THE SITE AND RECEIVED SEVERAL EMAILS.
>> I HAVE ALSO BEEN BY THE SITE. >> SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS OR
DISCLOSURES, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> THANK YOU, BLAIR KNIGHTING, MY ADDRESS IS 12740 GRANDBERRY PARKWAY WEST, SUITE 2350, MY ZIP CODE IS 5258. I WAS GOING FOR SHORTEST PRESENTATION TODAY BUT I THINK THE ONES BEFORE ME BE ME.
[LAUGHS] WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE ASHFORD MILLS P. D MAJOR MODIFICATION YOU PROBABLY KNOW THIS AS THE SHEERWATER PED, IT'S ACTUALLY A SITE SPECIFIC MODIFICATION, IT'S JUST FOR OUR SITE NOT THE WHOLE PUD.
ON T I AM THE PROJECT PLANNER AD THE APPLICANT MR. SAM PAULY IS PURCHASING THE PROPERTY, HE CURRENTLY OWNS THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THIS PROPERTY.
SO JUST TO SHOW THE LOCATION, IT'S HERE ON 210, YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATION.
WHEN YOU ENTER SHEERWATER IT IS A PARCEL TO THE LEFT, ONE OF THE LAST REMAINING COMMERCIAL PARCELS IN THE PUD AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING TO THE RIGHT OF THE PARCEL, HE OWNS THE RETAIL BUILDING IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL.
SO THIS IS KIND OF IMPORTANT WHEN WE GET TO WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THESE MODIFICATIONS. ESSENTIALLY WE ARE ASKING FOR TO MAKE THIS PARCEL KIND OF COMBINED WITH THE OTHER ONE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE PUNCTUAL STOMACH FUNCTIONAL PERIOD OF THE EXISTING LAND USE ALLOWS COMMERCIAL CATEGORY ARE
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NOT CHANGING THE LAND USE KIND OF THE EXISTING ZONING IS PUD, WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE PUD. WHAT ARE WE REQUESTING? WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES TO THE USES OR COMMERCIAL ALLOWANCES OR ANYTHING, IT IS REALLY A FEW THINGS, ONE THING IS -- I. WILL SHOW YOU VISUALLY WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IN FACT THIS IS JUST WORDS, CURRENTLY WHEN YOU GO FOR A PED IN THE COUNTY, YOU HAVE TO TRY TO CONNECT, INTERCONNECTIVITY TO ADJACENT PARCELS.WHEN THIS PED WAS ENACTED I DON'T THINK THAT IT WAS A REQUIREMENT BACK THEN BECAUSE IN THE ACCESS SECTION IT DOES NOT TALK ABOUT INTERCONNECTIVITY TO ADJACENT USES.
AS PART OF THIS MODIFICATION WE ARE ADDING THAT LANGUAGE THERE JUST A TECHNICALLY IT IS NOT A WAIVER BECAUSE WE ARE JUST MEETING CODE, BUT WE WANTED TO UPDATE THE LANGUAGE TO SAY INTERCONNECTIVITY IS PERMISSIBLE.
AND THEN WE ARE ASKING FOR TWO WAIVERS, ONE OF THE WAIVERS IS A REDUCTION TO THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE JUST ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY. WE ARE ASKING FOR A REDUCTION FROM THE 35 FEET DEVELOPMENT TO 10 FEET, WE ARE KEEPING THE PUD AND DOING THE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING CUT WE'RE JUST REQUESTING REDUCTION IN DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN TWO COMMERCIAL PARCELS. THEN WE ARE ASKING FOR A SIDEWALK IN THE PUD PERIMETER BUFFER ON THE EASTERN PORTION.
WHEN WE MET WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL DURING THE CONCERN ABOUT HOW TO ACCESS BEHIND THE BUILDING THIS PARK WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ALLOW FOR SIDEWALKS BEHIND THE BUILDINGS.
THEN IT'S NOT A WAIVER CUT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE ACCESS TO ALLOW AN EXIT ONLY ON PINE TREE LANE, WE THINK THAT WILL MAKE IT A MORE EFFICIENT PARCEL FOR THE SHEERWATER RESIDENTS.
WE DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THE POND.
WE ARE TRYING TO BE EFFICIENT WITH THE ADJACENT PARCEL.
IF WE NEED THE FULL AREA WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THE EXIT ONLY BUT WE AT LEAST WANT THE OPTION TO HAVE AN EXIT ONLY SO THEY CAN EXIT FROM THE REAR PROPERTY.
AND THEN BECAUSE THE SITE IS SO TIGHT IT'S 2.3 ACRES WE ARE ADDING TEXTS TO ALLOW DUMPSTERS IN THE TERMINAL ISLANDS.
THAT TECHNICALLY IS NOT A WAIVER BECAUSE THE CODE IS NOT CLEAR ON THAT, WE WANTED TO CLARIFY IN THE TEXT DUMPSTERS CAN BE AS LONG AS YOU NEED THE CODE FOR REGULATIONS FOR LANDSCAPING THE FREEDOM VISUALLY, IT'S A LOT EASIER TO SEE VISUALLY, AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE THE ADJACENT EASTERN PARCELS, THE APPLICANT PARCEL TAG WE ARE REQUESTING FOR INTERCONNECTIVITY.
YOU CAN SEE HOW THERE'S 210 AT THE NORTH OF THE SITE WE ARE ASKING FOR INTERCONNECTIVITY IN TWO LOCATIONS TO HAVE AN EFFICIENT FLOW, THIS WAY ALSO WE DON'T HAVE AN ACCESS ON 210.
IT IS JUST THROUGH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
WE DO HAVE THIS ON SHEARWATER FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN THE SECOND REQUEST IS A REDUCTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE. THE REASON WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS A TIGHT SITE, IT'S VERY NARROW AND WE ALREADY HAVE 20 FEET ON THAT EASTERN PROPERTY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE AND WITH OUR 1F 30 FEET BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES. WE FEEL THAT IS A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL BUFFER FOR THE SAME USES.
AND THE THIRD REQUEST IS THE POTENTIAL EXIT ONLY ONTO PINE TREE LANE, WE ARE NOT SURE, AS YOU CAN SEE THE STORMWATER POND THERE, IF WE CAN MAKE THE STORMWATER WORK AND ALSO HAVE THE EXIT ONLY, HAVE OUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO, WE ARE NOT SURE BUT WE ARE REQUESTING TO ADD THAT TO THE TEXT.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE SIDEWALK IN THE PERIMETER BUFFER, JUST BEHIND THE BUILDINGS IN CASE THERE'S AN EXIT LIKE A SAFETY EXIT. IT IS A PRETTY TIGHT SITE.
WE ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT ALL WORK TOGETHER AND BE COHESIVE. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE THEY HAVE KIND OF DEVELOPED TOGETHER. TWO SEPARATE OWNERS IT WOULD BE VERY SILOED, AND THE LOCAL BUSINESS -- WE ALSO HAVE NO WETLAND IMPACTS. THEN THE STAFF REPORT, STAFF FINDS THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AS INTENDED TO MAKE THE SITE USABLE GIVEN ITS LIMITED WIDTH AND FINDS THE PROPOSED CONNECTIVITY PROVIDES A REASONABLE AND EFFICIENT FLOW OF TRAFFIC.
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PROJECT BENEFITS PROVIDES CONNECTIVITY, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE SITES, WHICH THE LDCA REQUIRES NO TRUCK NO NEW ACCESS ALONG COUNTY ROAD 210I THINK IS A VERY POSITIVE FOR THIS PROJECT, AND RESIDENTS IN THE INFIELD DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES APPROPRIATE SKILL DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA NEAR RESIDENTIAL USES. IT USES THE EXISTING ENVIRONMENT AND HAS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WITH THAT I WOULD REQUEST FOR A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. ANY QUESTIONS?>> THE METRICS ON SHEARWATER PARKWAY, THE DRAWING DOES NOT
SHOW THAT. >> WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE
>> THERE WE GO. >> SO TRAFFIC EXITING SHEARWATER COULD ENTER AND TRAFFIC COMING IN TO THE EXISTING FACILITY COULD MEANDER THEIR WAY THROUGH COME OUT TO SHEARWATER PARKWAY
AND MAKE A LEFT COMING UP. >> YES, SIR, -- WELL, IF WE GET THE EXIT ONLY. IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
>> THAT IS A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT. >> WE HAVE A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT INTO THE PROPERTY AND THEY CAN GET OUT TO 210.
>> SO YOU WILL BE PUTTING TRAFFIC FROM THE PUD, EXISTING PUD, NOW COMING OVER TO SHEARWATER PARKWAY.
>> THEY CAN'T GO -- WELL THEY COULD POTENTIALLY GO OUT THROUGH THAT WAY AND GET TO THAT SIGNAL, THAT IS TRUE THEY COULD GO THAT WAY. IF THEY WERE GOING WEST.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE MAGNITUDE OF THAT TRAFFIC IS?
>> I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, IT IS A VERY SMALL SCHOOL AND A SMALL RETAIL, SMALL COFFEE SHOP AND SMALL PIZZA PLACE, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
IT'S NOT A HEAVY TRIP GENERATOR. I HAVE BEEN BY THERE MANY TIMES BECAUSE I LIVE NEAR THIS AREA AND HAVE NOT SEEN MANY CARS.
WE ARE MORE ANTICIPATING PASSERBY TRAFFIC AND LOCAL
MY OTHER QUESTION IS I ASSUME FOR BUILDING A AND B, THAT IS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING IS MORE DECORATIVE HOW COULD THE
SIDE OF THE BUILDING FACES WEST? >> YES, SIR,.
>> OKAY. AND IT'S REALLY NOT UP TO US TO DO THE WORK FOR Y'ALL BUT HAVE YOU CONSIDERED DOING IT FROM A WAY THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE WESTERN BOUNDARY, MOVE THE BUILDING OVER UP AGAINST SHEARWATER PARKWAY
AND HAVE A PARKING BEHIND? >> YEAH, -- WE DID NOT CALCULATE ANTICIPATED THIS MIRRORING -- I THINK THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS BEEN MEETING WITH A CBD, NOT THAT I KNOW THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED BUT I THINK IT IS JUST THE PREFERRED DESIGN.
WE ALSO DID NOT WANT TO REMOVE THE COMPLETE DEVELOPMENT EDGE BECAUSE MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE EASTERN PORTION, DO YOU SAY REMOVE IT
COMPLETELY? >> I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT IF YOU HAD THE BUILDINGS ALONG THE WEST BOUNDARY BETWEEN THE TWO USES BUT YOU ARE THE DESIGNERS PACKAGE NOT MY JOB, DON'T WORRY ABOUT ANSWERING ANY MORE QUESTIONS NINEMAC YES, SIR. [LAUGHS]
>> THAT IS ALL I HAD. >> THANK YOU.
>> MISS SPIEGEL. >> YES, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT TOO THEN I THOUGHT YOU WOULD HAVE THE BACK OF THE BUILDINGS FACING SHEARWATER, MAYBE THAT'S NOT ALWAYS SUPER DESIRABLE AND ATTRACTIVE. BUT I DO THINK THE SAME THING COULD MY ONLY CONCERN REALLY, THE 414 EXIT, PEOPLE WILL HAVE A CHOICE, OUT ONTO 210 OR SHEARWATER.
BUT WITH THE ELEMENTARY RIGHT THERE, THERE IS TRAFFIC THERE BIG TIME. WE HAD A COUPLE APPLICATIONS ACROSS THE STREET, A LOT OF NEIGHBORS DISCUSSING THAT.
I HOPE YOU GET TO DO THE EXIT AT THE SCHOOL, I THINK THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME PROBLEMS. I HOPE YOU GET TO DO THAT.
>> WE ARE CROSSING OUR FINGERS, MAYBE THE ENGINEERS WILL FIGURE
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I WAS ASKING ABOUT SHEARWATER RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT.
THANK YOU. >> ARE THERE BY CHANCE ANY.
>> YOU DON'T THINK SO, WE HAVEN'T DONE THE COMPLETE PERMIT REVIEW. IT IS SANDY, SO WHEN THE CIVIL ENGINEERS GET ASSIGNED TO IT WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
MR. MATOVINA. >> SORRY I AM BACK ON THE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT THING. THAT WAS CURRENTLY SHOWN ON THE
>> THANK YOU. >> MR. LABANOWSKI?
>> IS THIS PLAN FOR SINGLE STORY ONLY.
>> THIS OFFERS TO GO TO 65 KINGDOM HEIGHT FOR THE COMMERCIAL NONRESIDENTIAL USES, ON A 2.3 ACRE SITE IN THIS LOCATION I CANNOT IMAGINE HAVING VERY TALL BUILDINGS.
IF YOU LOOK IN THE SURROUNDING AREA AND EXACTLY ADJACENT PROPERTIES, I DON'T SEE HIGHER THAN TWO STORIES.
WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGN YET BECAUSE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE APPROVALS AND PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.
AGAIN THE TALLER YOU GET THE MORE PARKING YOU NEED AND THE SITE IS A VERY TALL AND TIGHT. I DO WANT TO SAY WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO TALLER THAN ONE STORY, IT'S NOT THE USUAL USE AROUND HERE. ALSO WITH PARKING WE ARE ALREADY
LIMITED. >> SHEARWATER IS PART OF THE QD
AND YOU HAVE CLEARANCE? >> YES, SIR.
>> THAT IS ALL. >> SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS, ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE
RECORD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS S SAM, I'M ON THE EAST SIDE OF THIS PARCEL.
I HAVE MY BUSINESS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THIS PARCEL, I OPERATE THAT AS A SMALL BUSINESS. AND I WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE THING FOR THE QUESTION, ASKING ANY PEOPLE VISITING THIS PARCEL, GOING ON TO SHEARWATER PARK. I WOULD SAY PROBABLY NOT BECAUSE THERE IS A U-TURN RIGHT NEXT T TO 2.
SO YOU DO THE U-TURN RIGHT WHERE THE ENTRANCE IS.
WHEN PEOPLE COME TO MY SCHOOL, WHEN THEY LEAVE, THEY TAKE AN EXIT ONTO TEN AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT THERE IS A U-TURN RIGHT NEXT TO MY EXIT. SO THAT IS WHY I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WILL GO TO THE PARKING LOTS OR MAKE A TURN ONTO SHEERWATER PARKWAY AND THEN MAKE A U-TURN AGAIN ON SHEARWATER PARKWAY TO GET BACK TO THE WEST SIDE.
THEY CAN SIMPLY GO AND EXIT RIGHT AT THE EXIT -- ENTRANCE, I'M SORRY, ON 210. IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
AS YOU GUYS CAN SEE IN THE PICTURES THERE, THE U-TURN RIGHT THERE, IN THE PICTURE IT'S NOT SHOWING IT BUT.
>> I THINK WHAT HE IS SAYING IS THERE'S MANY OPTIONS TO GET OUT, IT WON'T BE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT GOING LEFT.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR DISCUSSION AND MOTION AND VOTING THE.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD?
MR. MATOVINA. >> I FIND MYSELF IN AN UNUSUA POSITION HERE, I'M NOT VERY COMFORTABLE WITH NOT HAVING AN ACTUAL FULL BLOWN TRAFFIC STUDY BUT AT LEAST A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE CREATING THE POTENTIAL FOR THE TRAFFIC FROM THE SCHOOL AND THE RETAIL TO NOW CLOG UP THE
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LEFT TURN LANE ON SHEARWATER PARKWAY, MORE THAN IT IS CLOGGED RIGHT NOW. PERHAPS THEY DID NOT REALIZE THAT COULD BE THE EFFECT. IF I WERE COMING FROM THE WEST AT 7:30 IN THE MORNING TO DROP MY CHILD OFF AT THE SCHOOL, RETURNING TO THE WEST, I SURE WOULD RATHER USE THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT THAN CUT ACROSS TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC AND THEN QUICKLY GET INTO THE TURN LANE TO MAKE A U-TURN.TRAFFIC IS VERY DIFFICULT IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE.
I WOULD ALMOST ASK THE APPLICANT TO CONSULT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND COME BACK TO US AND EXPLAIN TO US THE IMPACT AND MAYBE IT IS MINOR, I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE THE TIMES FOR THOSE RETAIL STORES WORK OUT BETTER, I DON'T KNOW.
CAN'T IMAGINE YOU WON'T HAVE SPILLOVER FROM A PARCEL RIGHT NOW CANNOT GET ON TO SHEARWATER PARKWAY.
>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YOU MADE IT EARLIER AS WELL.
ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY DO YOU HAVE ANY REBUTTAL TO
THAT? >> I WAS JUST GOING TO STEP IN QUICK, I'M TALKING OVER THE COMPUTER HERE AND I WANTED TO READ THE INFORMATION, WHILE IT'S NOT STRICTLY REQUIRED DURING THIS MAJOR MODIFICATION APPLICATION THAT THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO SUBMIT AN ACCESS ANALYSIS FOR THE SITE AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION PLANS, SO ULTIMATELY IT WILL BE REVIEWED FOR ALL THESE CONCERNS, IT'S NOT STRICTLY A REQUIREMENT OF THE
MAJOR MODIFICATION. >> OKAY APPRECIATED THAT.
ALL RIGHT. WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? WE HAVE A MOTION.
>> TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT -- I. WILL MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF MAJMOD 2026-02 ASHFORD MILLS PUD BASED
ON FINDINGS OF FACT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION, DO WE HAVE
>> SECOND BY MR. GREEN, ANY DISCUSSION? I WILL SAY AND I WILL ADMIT THIS READILY AND I HAVE BEFORE, MR. MATOVINA OPINION ON MATTERS LIKE THIS DO HAVE AN IMPACT USE A DEVELOPER AND BUILDER. HE CARRIES WEIGHT IN MY OPINION.
I WAS HOPING HE WOULD AGREE TO A CONTINUANCE BUT.
>> I WILL SAY IF I MAY, WE WORK WITH THE BEST TRAFFIC ENGINEERS.
BY THE TIME IT COMES WE WILL HAVE AN ANSWER.
MR. MATOVINA? >> I WILL VOTE AGAINST THIS.
I THINK WE HAVE -- NINEMAC LET ME ASK MY CLIENT IF HE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH A BETTER TRAFFIC STUDY.
HE HAS AGREED WE CAN DO A TRAFFIC STUDY AND COME BACK TO YOU ALL IF THAT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER? FOR SURE. NINEMAC YES, YOU MAY.
OKAY. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY OPPOSITION TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. I JUST KNOW WE HAVE THIS VERY
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SAME SIMILAR SITUATION ON STATE ROAD 13 THAT WAS ENCOUNTERED SEVERAL TIMES TRYING TO HOOK INTO SUBDIVISION ROAD.I DON'T KNOW IF THE HOMEOWNERS NECESSARILY UNDERSTAND, WE CERTAINLY DON'T WITHOUT THIS STUDY.
HOPEFULLY THE STUDY SHOWS JUST AS MANY PEOPLE COME FROM THE EASTERN DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST AS IT GOES FROM THE WESTERN DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST AND IT'S THE SAME BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE QUESTION IS. RIGHT NOW YOU COULD DEVELOP THIS AND ALL THE TRAFFIC FROM THE WESTERN WOULD BE ON SHEARWATER PARKWAY AND SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC NOW WILL BE REDIRECTED TO THE PARKWAY SO MAYBE IT WILL BALANCE OUT, I DON'T KNOW.
>> I DO ANTICIPATE -- THERE ARE DIFFERENT TIMES FOR RETAIL SO I ANTICIPATE THOSE TIMES NOT BEING THE SAME.
>> AGAIN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I I THINK I JUST MIGHT REQUIRE MORE ANALYSIS BEFORE WE VOTE.
>> OKAY. >> MR. GREEN DID YOU WANT TO ADD
SOMETHING TO MY. >> I THINK FROM WHAT I REMEMBER THIS IS A VERY SMALL DAY CARE? CAN WE GET AN IDEA OF HOW MANY
KIDS ARE THERE? >> YES DO YOU WANT TO KNOW NOW?
>> YES JUST CURIOUS PERIOD OF I UNDERSTAND -- I GET THE WHOLE PICTURE BUT I FEEL READY TO VOTE AND MOVE IT ON IF YOU GO INTO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETING NOW, YOU MAY HAVE A QUESTION ANSWER TO, YOU MAY PASS A TO, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM TABLING IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THESE THINGS MOVING IF POSSIBLE I DON'T THINK THE CDD WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT THAT TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD IF THEY FEEL THAT IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THEIR COMMUNITY.
NINEMAC RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 110. >> I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. IT IS YOUR APPLICATION, DO WHAT
YOU FEEL BEST TO DO. >> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE, I ASSUME YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT? OR MISS PERKINS WISHES TO WITHDRAW HER MOTION, I DON'T
KNOW? >> IF THE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD VOICED THEIR OPINIONS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, I WOULD NOT MIND IF.
>> MISS SPIEGEL. >> I WILL VOICE MY CONCERN.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SAME CONCERN AS MATOVINA BECAUSE OF SCHOOL TRAFFIC. I KNOW THERE IS TALKING ON THAT ROAD, AND I THINK HAVING EVEN IF IT'S NOT A HUGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING TURNING OUT ON SHEARWATER IT MIGHT HAVE AN IMPACT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE DEVELOPMENT, I WANT TO SEE A DEVELOPMENT IN A WAY THAT BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
>> MR. LABANOWSKI. >> I HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH GREG
AS WELL. >> YOU WOULD APPRECIATE A
CONTINUANCE. >> IF I CAN CHIME IN, ON THE SUBJECT OF CONTINUANCE, THE NEXT UPCOMING DATE IS JUNE FOURTH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GIVES THE APPLICANT THE TIME THEY NEED TO DO WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THEY ARE CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, MAKE SURE I HAVE THE CORRECT DATE, JUNE 16TH. IF THEY ARE UNABLE TO MAKE THE JUNE FOURTH HEARING, EVERYTHING IS GETTING STEPPED BACK.
I THINK THERE IS CONCERN FROM THE BOARD NOT KEEPING THINGS MOVING. JUNE FOURTH IS SORT OF THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP ON TRACK WE ARE NOW.
>> GOOD INFORMATION THANK YOU. WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? GO AHEAD AND VOTE.
>> I WILL WITHDRAW MY MOTION. >> I WILL WITHDRAW MY SECOND THAT IS WHAT THE APPLICANT WANTS.
I THINK THE APPLICANT WILL GO HOME HAPPY TODAY.
>> HERE WE HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE, MISS SPIEGEL?
>> DO YOU THINK TWO WEEKS IS ENOUGH TIME?
>> NO, IT'S NOT. IF PEOPLE HAVE REAL DATA WE NEED TO DO COUNTS. WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO PUSH
THIS TO THE JULY MEETING -- >> I WILL JUST LIST THE NEXT
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UPCOMING DATES WE HAVE, JUNE FOURTH, JUNE 18TH, JU JULY NINTH, JULY 23RD. WE CAN ALSO GO TO A DATE AND WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AS APPROPRIATE AS WELL.>> SOMEBODY IS COMING FROM THE BACK WHO WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, THE SCHOOL IS OUT THIS WEEK AND THE NEXT, THE TRAFFIC COUNTS RIGHT NOW ARE NOT
ACCURATE FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR. >> GOOD POINT.
OKAY. WELL MISS SPIEGEL, YOU WERE MAKING A MOTION? ALL RIGHT.
>> IS IN THE SCHOOL MORE OF A PRESCHOOL?
IT'S NOT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. >> IT IS PRESCHOOL BUT -- WE WOULD WANT ACCURATE DATA, WE WOULD WANT THE SCHOOL TO BE IN CHILDREN SO AGENCY MEMBER MATOVINA TO ADDRESS YOUR ISSUES WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE AN ACCURATE TRAFFIC STUDY UNTIL SCHOOL IS BACK IN SESSION IN AUGUST.
BUT WE COULD -- I. COULD WORK WITH TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TO SEE IF THEY MAY BE 2025 DATA FOR THAT SCHOOL, THE SCHOOL HAS BEEN OPEN SO WE CAN USE THAT DATA TO COMBINE IT WITH OUR OTHER DATA.
>> IN MY OPINION THE REAL QUESTION IS NOT SO MUCH WHAT IS THE EXISTING CONDITION, WE PROBABLY KNOW IT'S NOT PRETTY GOOD, THE REAL QUESTION OF THIS STUDY IS IF IT WAS DEVELOPED UNDER THE EXISTING PUD WHAT WOULD THE TRAFFIC PATTERN EVEN GO? AND IF IT'S DEVELOPED UNDER THIS PROPOSAL, THEN HOW DOES THAT CHANGE THAT TWO THE EXISTING COUNT WHETHER IT'S 100% ACCURATE OR NOT ON SHEARWATER PARKWAY, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF THAT NUMBER.
EVEN IF THEY TOOK A COUNT AFTER SCHOOL CLOSED, THIS MANY TRIPS BASED ON THE SCHOOL BEING CLOSED THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO ME.
MAYBE CONTINUING JUNE FOURTH IF THAT DOESN'T WORK OUT.
>> SO DO WE HAVE THE OPTION IF WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA THAT WE
CONTINUE ONE MORE CYCLE. >> AT THE PLEASURE OF THE AGENCY WE CAN CONTINUE UNTIL JU JUNE FOURTH.
>> I AM SORRY I JUST FEEL IT IS IMPORTANT.
>> I UNDERSTAND. OKAY NINEMAC OKAY, MR. GREEN
COMING UP. >> A FEW THINGS I THINK ARE IMPORTANT, THE INTERCONNECTIVITY IS WHAT THEY WANT.
I ASSUME THAT WILL CONTINUE ON INTO YOUR ANALYSIS.
SCHOOL IS BASICALLY PEAK AM I THINK.
>> IT IS AM AND PROBABLY AT 3:00, 3:30 WHEN SOME PEAK PART TIMERS GET OUT AND THEN PROBABLY 5:30, 6:00.
>> AND THEN RETAIL IT'S DIFFERENT THAN DAY CARE AS FAR
>> THEY ARE NOT CREATING MORE OF A PROBLEM THE RETAIL ISN'T.
>> NO. >> IT'S A DIFFERENT PEAK HOUR.
>> I WOULD SAY IT IS DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE USE THAT GOES IN, BUT IF IT IS SIMILAR TO THE USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE CORRECT THEY ARE SMALL THOUSAND SQUARE FEET UNITS, IT'S REALLY NOT HIGH TRAFFIC GENERATED USES. I WOULD SAY MORE EVENING.
>> SO FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, SHEARWATER DRIVE I GUESS GOES OUT NINEMAC SHEARWATER PARKWAY NINEMAC THAT IS A --
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>> IT IS PROBABLY CONSTRUCTED AT THAT LEVEL BUT NOT CLASSIFIED.
IT IS FOUR LANES, SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES.
WITH A MEDIUM IN BETWEEN. >> YOU WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM?
>> I AGREE WITH YOU, I AGREE WITH THAT SYNOPSIS, WESTERN PARCEL HAS THE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ALREADY NOW.
BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN WITH THE PAST THROUGH THE WILL BE GOING OUT THROUGH THERE IS PROBABLY ENOUGH STAFFING FOR YOUR CONCERN TO TURN LEFT AT THE PEAK HOUR, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY LOOK AT THE STOCKING FROM THAT ACCESS TO THE SIGNAL TO SEE HOW MANY CARS FOR THE STACKING TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT AN ISSUE AT THE PEAK HOUR OF THE SCHOOL DROP OFF.
>> I MIGHT MAKE IT EASIER AND SAY I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO BE 100% PASS. I JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT SCENARIO A AND SCENARIO B DOES FOR THE ROAD TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND
>> YES, SIR,. >> IT MAY BE MORE PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT OF SHEARWATER CUT THROUGH THE PARKING LOTS AT 7:3K UP TO THE RIGHT. STILL WE DON'T KNOW.
>> I WOULD RATHER SEE THEM STACKED THERE THAN HAVE A LATE TO GET OUT. I THINK THAT IS A POSITIVE
VERSUS EXITING ONTO 210. >> AGREED.
I THINK WE ARE ALL IN AGREEANCE THE SIGNAL WOULD BE A MUCH MORE SAFE MOVEMENT. YOU WILL TAKE THE JUNE FOURTH -- WE DON'T HAVE TO DO COUNTS OF THE SCHOOLS THOUGH.
>> I WILL MAKE YOU MOTION. >> SECOND.
TIME TO VOTE ON THE CONTINUANCE JUNE FOURTH.
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.
[5. REZ 2026-02 177 Surfside Avenue. Request to rezone approximately 0.75 acres from Commercial Highway and Tourist (CHT) to Residential Single Family (RS-3), located at 177 Surfside Avenue. ]
ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE A REZONING, MR. JAMES G. WHHITEHOUSE WILL PRESENT ON 177 SURFSIDE AVENUE, BEING AN EX PARTE FOR THIS? MR. LABANOWSKI?>> I VISITED THE SITE. >> I HAVE ACTUALLY DRIVEN BY THE SITE PREVIOUSLY TRYING TO GET TO SOME OTHER AREA BUT I DID NOT SPECIFICALLY NOTE THAT OTHER THAN IT WAS A NICELY WOODED PARCEL. SO.
THE FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
AGENCY MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS JAMES G. WHHITEHOUSE, SAINT JOHN'S LAW GROUP, I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND OWNER TIM AND COURTNEY HERE IN THE AUDIENCE WITH ME TODAY, IS AN APPLICATION FOR REZONING THE 202-0602, RESIDENTIAL REZONING OF PROPERTY THAT IS LAND USE APPROPRIATELY BUT THE ZONING IS OFF. THIS IS LOCATED IN THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD NORTH OF THE BRIDGE AS MANY OF YOU KNOW INDICATED BY THE GREEN DOT ON YOUR SCREEN, THE PARCELS THEMSELVES ARE LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SURFSIDE AVENUE AT 177 SURFSIDE AVENUE CACTUS ACTUALLY FIVE PARCELS THAT THEY OWN, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THREE OF THEM TODAY.
AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THEM HERE, THIS IS IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, IT IS SPLIT BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND CONSERVATION AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, GOING BY THERE'S A BUNCH OF HOUSES ALONG THE WATERWAY. DOWN HERE ON THE WESTERN PORTION ITSELF, THIS IS WITHIN CURRENTLY A ZONING WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY TOURIST ZONING AS WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE.
YOU'RE PLANNING STAFF UPON EVALUATION, THIS WAS ALL PUT BACK IN THE DAY, THAT'S WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY.
WE ARE TRYING TO BRING THESE PARTICULAR LOTS INTO CONFORMANCE WITH ALL THE LOTS AROUND IT. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL IT IS OUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.
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THE PROJECT OVERVIEW, THIS IS THE REZONING OF THE COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY TOURIST PROPERTIES TO COMPATIBLE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY DESIGNATION. TO REQUEST REZONE APPROXIMATELY 0.75 ACRES OF LAND FROM T TO RST.IT IS A CLEANUP REZONING ACTION ALIGNING THE PROPERTY WITH THE LAND USE AND ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SITE CONSISTS OF THREE LEGALLY PLATTED LOTS IN THE FAMILY INTENDING TO USE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE STAFF REPORT OF THE APPLICATION SUMMARY AS I MENTIONED REZONING FROM T TO R RS3, THE ANALYSIS BY THE STAFF SAYS IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA HERE TO THE PROPOSED RS3 DESIGNATION WOULD ALIGN WITH THE PROPERTY WITH THE VESTED LAND USE AND ESTABLISHED CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PERMITS DEVELOPMENT OF ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON EACH OF THE LEGALLY PLATTED LOTS.
HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PADDING OF THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS BEEN PLOTTED FOR MANY YEARS IN FACT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS DONE IN 1926 PERIOD OF ALL OF THESE WERE PLOTTED FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IN 1926. THIS IS TO BRING THE LOTS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE LAND USE, YOU CAN SEE BETTER CLOSE UP IN CHT. AGAIN THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED THROUGH THE VESTING FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE AND FAMILY USE ON THESE THREE LOTS, HOWEVER TO DEVELOP THOSE THREE USES ON THE TWO LOTS TO THE WEST BECAUSE WE HAVE TO REZONE TO RS THREE.
ADJACENT TO THIS ZONING DISTRICT.
IT MERELY BRINGS THIS PROPERTY IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS NO OPEN COMMENTS THE PLANNING STAFF FINDS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY MEETS AND EXCEEDS THE REQUIREMENTS AND CONSISTENT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING PATTERN ESTABLISHED IN THE AREA.
AS I SAID EARLIER AND I WILL REPEAT, EXTRA PLANNING STAFF FOUND IT IS UNCLEAR WHY THESE LOTS WERE REZONED TO COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION BUT THE PROPERTY CARRIES A FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPED USE YOU SEE FOR MOST ZONING, THE STAFF PROVIDED COMPARISONS AND COMPATIBILITIITIS COMPATIBLE FOR THE AREA. WE RECEIVED NO CORRESPONDENCE OR PHONE CALLS ON THIS AND WE PROVIDE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO YOU ON THIS REQUEST TO BE APPROPRIATE AND REASONABLE FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY AREA AND WE ASK TO PLEASE REVIEW THE RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW THIS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE REQUEST THAT FURTHERS THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THIS RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> MR. LABANOWSKI. >> SIMPLE QUESTION THERE ARE BUILDINGS ON THE LOT NOW? THERE ARE HOMES OR?
>> YES, SIR, THERE IS ONE ON THE MIDDLE LOT ITSELF, IT KIND OF GOES A LITTLE BIT OVER INTO ONE OF THE LOTS WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL ONLY DO TWO OR KEEP TWO LOTS ON EACH BUT WE HAVE TO REZONE ALL THREE SO WE HAVE THE OPTION OF DOING TWO OR THREE.
>> SO THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS FOR CREAM ONE HOME ON THE ENTIRE
>> OKAY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT APPARENTLY THE HOUSE CURRENTLY THERE THE EXISTING STRUCTURE WAS ORIGINALLY BY SAINT CLARE LEWIS, THERE IS A HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
>> TO ANSWER THAT AND ADDRESS THAT BRIEFLY, WE ARE HAVING OUR HISTORICAL EXPERT LOOK AT IT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MOVE THROUGH THAT WITH THE COUNTY AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS JUST REZONING TODAY, WE ARE AWARE OF THAT AND WORKING WITH HIM HE HAS ALREADY DONE A REPORT AND AGAIN WE WILL ADDRESS
THAT WITH DEVELOPMENT. >> OKAY.
IT APPEARS THAT A VEGETATION ON THE PROPERTY IN THAT AREA TO THE WEST IS MARITIME HAMMOCK WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT NATIONAL COMMUNITY IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.
IF THIS IS APPROVED AND THEY BUILD ADDITIONAL HOUSES ON THERE, ARE THERE GOING TO BE MEASURES TAKEN TO MAINTAIN AS
MUCH OF THAT AS POSSIBLE? >> AS REQUIRED BY THE COUNTY CODE, AS YOU KNOW BY WETLAND% PROTECTION, YOU WILL MOVE WITH
ALL REQUIREMENTS. >> YOU HAVE DONE MANY REZONINGS HERE. I REMEMBER SEEING, I RECALL, A
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REQUEST FOR VESTING WATER FROM THE COUNTY.WHEN WAS THAT DONE I'M JUST CURIOUS.
>> IT STARTED OUT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT PART OF THIS IS IN CONSERVATION LAND USE. THEY ARE LEGALLY PART OF LAWS AS YOU SEE FROM 1926, OBVIOUSLY THE AREAS HAVE MOVED AROUND BUT WE ESTABLISH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ZONING MAP IN THE EARLY 90S. THAT AREA WAS PLACED IN CONSERVATION. THE COUNTY ITSELF HAS ALLOWED A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENT ON THESE LOTS.
THE REASON WE CAME IN INITIALLY IN CONJUNCTION SORT OF WITH REZONING BUT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE VESTING COURSE I WOULD MOVE FORWARD ON THE VESTED LOTS THAT WE ASSUMED WE HAD THE RIGHT TO, BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT LETTER TO SHOW WE COULD AND YOUR
PLANNING STAFF CONFIRMED THAT. >> GREAT THANK YOU I APPRECIATE
THAT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER? SEEING NONE, WE ARE BACK INTO
THE AGENCY -- MR. MATOVINA? >> I JUST WANT TO ASK STAFF, SO WE HAVE THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, DESIGNATION OF CONSERVATION ON THE PARCEL TAG BUT BASICALLY WE ARE IGNORING THAT BECAUSE OF THE VESTED, IS THAT CORRECT? WHATEVER THE APPLICATIONS OF
THAT ARE? >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, WHEN WE HAVE NONCONFORMING LOTS OF RECORD THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE GIVES US A SERIES OF PARAMETERS TO FOLLOW FOR THEIR ABILITY TO DEVELOP, ONE OF WHICH IS ANY AREA THAT ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL IT DOES SO HAPPEN THAT CONSERVATION LAND USE ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL HOMES IT HAPPENS TO BE ON THE SIZE AND SCALE MUCH GREATER THAN A SINGLE LOT, NONETHELESS IT STILL ALLOWS FOR IT SO WE MADE THE DETERMINATION EVEN THOUGH YES, IT IS CONSERVATION, ON RECORD IT WAS PLATTED FAR PRIOR TO THE CONSERVATION LAND USE THEREFORE YES, IT IS ALLOWED.
>> I THOUGHT SOMEBODY ELSE -- MR. GREEN, OKAY YOU ARE BACK.
>> I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO SPEAK EARLIER.
>> I WAS CURIOUS WHETHER I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION OR NOT UNTIL I HEARD THE ANSWER. NOW THAT I'VE HEARD IT I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION. I WOULD LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE REZ 2026-02 177 SURFSIDE AVENUE BASED ON THE FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION, MR. GREEN SECONDED BY MR. LABANOWSKI, ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE.
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> THANK YOU, SIR.
[6. REZ 2026-04 SR 16 Commercial. Request to rezone approximately 8 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Commercial Intensive (CI), specifically located on the southeast corner of State Road 16 and Green Acres Road. ]
>> NEXT WE HAVE REZONING FOR STATE ROAD 16 COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, IT WAS GOING TO BE TREND FOR PRESENTING CHARACTERS COMING UP. I GOT A CALL FROM ZACH MILLER AND WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS. I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS YOU WILL
TAG TEAM IT. >> YOU ARE CORRECT!
TAKE IT AWAY ZACH. >> EX PARTE FIRST?
>> WE ARE DOING EX PARTE RIGHT NOW.
>> I SPOKE WITH MR. MILLER YESTERDAY.
>> MISS SPIEGEL? >> I HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION
WITH MR. MILLER. >> MR. LABANOWSKI.
>> I DID A SITE VISIT AND ALSO HAD A MEETING WITH GARY HULL.
>> MR. GREEN. >> YES, I TALKED TO MR. MILLER THIS MORNING AND AS MANY OF YOU KNOW I AM ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT DOOR TAG ACROSS THE STREET HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT, WHICH I DO NOT HAVE ANY FINANCIAL TIES TO ANYMORE.
WANTED TO DISCLOSE THAT. >> THE FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR.
>> THANK YOU HAPPY TO SPEAK TO 16 -- ALSO I DID NOT KNOW HE WAS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I THINK YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH HIS PROPERTY, IT'S RIGHT NEAR STATE ROAD 16, A LITTLE BIT EAST OF N95, THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW SHOWS THE SIZE, ABOUT 8 ACRES, THE BREAKDOWN OF THE IMPROVEMENTS MADE TO THE INTERSECTION OF I-95 AND STATE ROAD 16, $31 MILLION COMPLETED LAST YEAR. SOME PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED BY THE LAYOUT, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL DELAY SOME TRAFFIC HERE.
HERE IS A ZOOM IN OF THE PROPERTY AND WE WILL GET TO THE
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ZONING IN A SECOND BUT THIS SHOWS WHAT THE USES ARE, IT HAS BEEN COMMERCIALLY USED AS, IT IS KIND OF A COMMERCIAL NODE NEAR THE HIGHWAY, SURROUNDING AROUND THE STREET YOU HAVE A WAWA, CHICK-FIL-A, DOUGHNUTS, SOMEWHERE ON OUR SIDE OF THE ROAD. ONE THING TO NOTE WE KIND OF MIRROR ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE WAWA TAG YOU HAVE A ROAD THAT GOES BACK TO SOME APARTMENTS AND RESIDENTIAL, THERE IS A ROAD THAT ACTUALLY CONNECTS AND GOES TO WAWA AND CHICK-FIL-A.YOU CAN BARELY SEE IT THERE BUT IT'S THE SAME OUTLOOK ON THE MALL, THE INTERCONNECTIVITY THAT IT MAKES USE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AREA DESIRES WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.
THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION, THE ENTIRE AREA'S MIXED USE, CONSIDERED ONE OF THE MORE INTENSE PLAN DESIGNATIONS.
THIS IS THE ZONING BEFORE AND AFTER, WE GOT COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO OUR IMMEDIATE WEST. I THINK IF THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2019 THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO OUR EAST -- ACTUALLY SHOWS THIS ON THE MAP, IT STILL HAS COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY TOURISM.
IT WAS UPDATED LAST YEAR TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.
GOING THROUGH THE CRITERIA. >> GREAT BRITAIN IF I CAN BORROW THAT. FOR THE RECORD LINDSEY, LAND PLANNER, 14775 OLD SAINT AUGUSTINE ROAD, TO REFRESH US ON THIS THEY WANTED TO SHOW THE MIXED USE DISTRICT HIGHLIGHTED IN THE VIBRANT PURPLE BOUNDARIES SO WE CAN FOCUS IN ON THE VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ALREADY EXIST WITHIN OUR MIXED USE CORRIDOR ALONG THE STATE ROAD 16, WHEN YOU FOCUS ON OUR PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW IT IS THIS HOLD OUT OPEN RURAL PIECE AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO ALIGN IT WITH THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT YOU SEE AND THIS QUILT OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY ALONG STATE ROAD 16 REZONING THAT TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE. WITH THAT IN MIND THE STAFF REPORT, YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TELLS US LET'S LOOK AT THOSE CRITERIA FOR REZONING AND ALIGN WITH THAT. COUPLE PIECES WE SEE IS OF THAT COLLECTION OF COMMERCIAL ZONE DISTRICTS ALONG STATE ROAD 16 THAT WERE A PART OF COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY TOURIST COMMERCIAL GENERAL, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, THE COMMISSIONERS APPROVED THAT PIECE ON HARVEST LANE FROM CH2 TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.
THOSE ARE ALL IN THE SAME GROUPING OF INTENSITY WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BUFFER ALIGNMENT AND SOME OTHER CLASSIFICATIONS FOR THE ZONE DISTRICT ITSELF. STATE ROAD 16 WE MADE THIS TO BE OUR ARTERIAL ROADWAY, GETTING GUIDANCE OF THE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR WHERE WE SHOULD PUT THESE TYPES OF COMMERCIAL USES AND IT'S DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE TRAFFIC VOLUMES.
YOU WORK WITH THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, OUR ENGINEERS AND THE PROJECT SITES TO LOOK AT OPERATIONAL SITE ACCESS IMPROVEMENT, WE WILL TOUCH ON THAT IN A MINUTE.
COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY FROM CONCURRENCY IN REGARD TO PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE, DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE SEE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND YOU CAN HAVE THE COUNTY ROAD IMPACT.
WITH THIS REZONING IT REPRESENTS THIS INFO WHERE WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, WE HAVE UTILITY AVAILABILITY LETTER WE HAVE WENT THROUGH POTENTIAL USE FOR THIS SITE, THE ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR KIND OF PULLING OVER SOME EXISTING USES THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH, AND IT IS IN THAT REFLECTED LAND USE PATTERN THAT WE SEE THE MIXED USE.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? STRAIGHT REZONINGS CALCULUS ACCENTUATE FOR YOU IF YOU WILL WHAT COULD BE A SITE PLAN REZONING CATEGORY, WE WORK WITH STAFF ON COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS. THIS GIVES US A LAY OF THE LAND, NORTH TO THIS POINT -- IS THIS THE POINTER?
>> NORTH WOULD BE -- NORTH IS TO THE EDGE OF THE SITE WE WILL SEE WEST HERE, THE INTERCHANGE, SOME OF THE EXISTING PIECES WE JUST WALKED THROUGH ON THE LARGER MAP.
HERE MAKING THE WESTERN BOUNDARY 3 ACRES, OF THE 8-ACRE SITE, 3 ACRES OF IT IS WETLAND ON THE REAR SIDE, AS YOU MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT IS RETAINED, PRESERVED, WORKING WITH ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF FOLLOWING BUFFER REQUIREMENTS AS WE MOVE THROUGH CONSTRUCTION PLANS. OUR ENGINEERS HAVE SHOWN THE REPLACEMENT OF THE WETLANDS THAT WOULD BE RETENTION IN THIS AREA, SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS ON THIS SITE AND ITS PLACEMENT IS IMPORTANT FOR WHERE THE WATER AND DRAINAGE WILL BE
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HANDLED. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT REMAINS OUT OF THE 8-ACRE SITE BETWEEN WHAT WE HAVE FOR PRESERVATION, WHAT WE WILL HANDLE FOR ON SITE DRAINAGE AND WORKING WITH 3 ACRES AS THE USES. THEN WE START TO SAY WHERE WOULD WE CONNECT IN? WE WOULD CONNECT INTO THE NORTHERNMOST PORT, WHICH IS JUST ADJACENT TO THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL, DOT STATION IS AN ELEMENT OF THE FUTURE SITE, YOU WOULD SEE THAT ON THE ACRE. WE ARE WORKING WITH A DOT TO HAVE A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ON STATE ROAD 16 AND INTERCONNECTIVITY ZACH TALKED ABOUT THAT WAS OUR INTENT ON MIXED USE DISTRICT AND WHAT YOU SEE TO THE NORTH AND WHAT THE COUNTY HAS PLANNED. THIS PROVIDES FOR OUR CONNECTION POINTS TO EXISTING ROADWAYS ALONG OUR PROPERTY.SOME OTHER ELEMENTS CONFIRMED IN THE STAFF REPORT AS TO WHAT WOULD BE THE BUFFERING REQUIREMENT THAT WE WOULD SEE GIVEN OUR MIXED USE CLASSIFICATION AS PROPOSED REZONING, 20-FOOT DIMENSION IN THE BUFFER AND THE LETTER THAT ALLOWS OUR STANDARD FOR WHAT WE HAVE.
SOME COMPONENT OF CAPACITY ON GREEN OPACITY OR A WALL, OUR CLIENT HAS WORKED WITH THE LANDOWNERS TO ESTABLISH TO THEIR PREFERENCE PRIVACY FENCING TO GO WITH THE CANOPY TREE REQUIREMENT WHICH IS THE OUTER ELEMENT WHAT MAKES UP THE OTHER SIDE.
THE OTHER PORT TO CONTINUE IS WHAT WE WOULD HAVE, THIS IS ALSO MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, WHAT IT'S LIKE COMING IN TO THE DRIVEWAY CONDITION, YOUR CODE, OUR PLAN WOULD BE TO EXTEND THAT IN 24 FEET PAVEMENT TO IMPROVE THAT CONDITION, TO WHAT YOU SEE TO THE PROPERTY CORNER. I WILL ADVANCE TO OUR SLIDE.
THAT'LL GIVE YOU THE SITE TOUR AND A GLAMORIZED VERSION ACCENTUATING WHAT ARE THE PRESERVED ELEMENTS OF THE SITE, WHAT ARE THE CONNECTION POINTS ARE AND INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE TWO EXISTING ROADWAYS AND THE PLAN FOR STATE ROAD 16 AND BUFFERING. WITH THAT WE WILL ADVANCE TO OUR REQUEST TO HAVE YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF OUR REZONING REQUEST AND THEN YOU ALSO KNOW WHEN OUR BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HEARING IS. ONE LAST POINT WE DO HAVE IN YOUR PACKET, YOU RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM AN ADJACENT NEIGHBOR CACTUS ISABEL LOPEZ, WE ARE LIKELY FAMILIAR WITH HER, THE STATE ATTORNEY FOR SAINT AUGUSTINE, AND FORMER COWORKER. WE WORKED WITH HER TO EXPLAIN THIS CONNECTION AND WE ARE RELYING ON HER CONNECTION POINTS TO GREEN ACRES TO PROVIDE FOR THAT SAFE IMPROVED ACCESS.
THAT ADDRESSES ONE OF HER CONCERNS SHE TALKED TO US ABOUT.
>> YOU GUYS DON'T SEE THAT MANY COMMERCIAL REZONINGS, MORE THAN THAN 10 ACRES. THE PRIMARY ISSUE WITH ANY COMMERCIAL REZONING IS COMPATIBILITY QUITE COMPATIBLE WITH THE PLAN DESIGNATION, IS IT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. ONE OF THE POINTS THAT MISS LOPEZ BROUGHT UP IS THAT CONNECTION POINT FROM GREEN ACRES TO HARVEST ALLOWS FOR ANY TRAFFIC FROM AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP, OF THE HOMES TO THE SOUTH THEN CONNECT THROUGH.
WE THINK THAT HELPS WITH COMPATIBILITY OF THE AREA, WE THINK OF THE BUFFERING BETWEEN US AND THE RESIDENCES IMMEDIATELY TO OUR EAST HELPS WITH THE COMPATIBILITY.
AND FINALLY THE SITE CONSTRAINTS, THE WETLANDS AND RETENTION POND, EVEN THE SEE EYE ALLOWS A LOT OF USES.
END OF THE DAY THIS LOCATION, IT IS LIKELY TO BE A CONVENIENCE STORE OR SOMETHING IN RELATION TO THAT PERIOD OF WE HAVE OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BUT I CAN PRIMARILY TELL YOU THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC, 75% WILL BE PASSERBY AND THAT THE IMPACT ON CAPACITY FOR STATE ROAD 16 GOING EAST WILL BE LESS THAN 1% INCREASE. DUE TO THE SITE CONSTRAINTS, THE LIKELY PASSERBY TRAFFIC, PROVIDING CONNECTIVITY WHICH WE THINK THE PLAN REQUIRES, AND THEN THE BUFFERING, WE THINK WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR COMPATIBILITY, THE PRIMARY
>> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT.
>> WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I ASSUME THAT FOLKS THAT LIVE AT THE END
OF GREEN ACRES HAVE NO ACCESS. >> AT THE END OF GREEN ACRES, THAT IS FURTHER SOUTH. THEY CAN'T GET INTO HARVARD'S
LANE RIGHT NOW. >> HARVEST LANE HAS ROUGHLY SIX PROPERTIES ALONG IT, ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY.
AND THERE IS NOTHING ACROSS THE STREET.
AND THE MEDIAN OPENING SHOWN ON THIS ARIAL ARE BOTH THERE.
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SO GREEN ACRES, YOU COULD TOUGHEN-- TECHNICALLY MAKE A LEFT TURN OUT OF GREEN ACRES? I WOULDN'T TRY IT BUT...THAT'S ALL I HAD FOR QUESTIONS. >> ON GLAD TO HEAR THAT THE OWNER IS SPEAKING WITH THE HOMEOWNERS.
THAT WAS MY BIGGEST THING. THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME. AS I LOOK YOUR PLAN I SEE IS NOT EVEN HALF OF THAT LITTLE STRETCH OF HARVEST LANE THAT WILL BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THE WETLANDS.
AND THEY ARE OKAY WITH A WOODEN FENCE, AND YOU THINK THAT BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRAINTS IT WILL NOT BE SUPER NOISY OR INVASIVE. BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR
MASONRY. >> THE COMBINATION PRIVATE WOODEN FENCE WITH THE CANOPY TREES, MR. HOW IS HERE FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT. >> IS THAT YOU IN THE BLUE? I WAS JUST IDENTIFYING WHO YOU ARE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET UP. >> WE CAN HEAR FROM HIM DURING
PUBLIC COMMENT. >> SO THE MONITORS ARE ON HARVEST LANE. SO GIVEN-- THIS EMAIL IS WELL DONE, BUT DOES THIS BECOME A CONDITIONAL REZONING THEN, BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING ROADS? OR DOES THAT FOLLOW ALONG WITH DEVELOPMENT?
>> YOU ARE ALLOWED TO CONDITION REZONINGS, BUT IN THIS SITUATION I CAN TELL YOU THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT CONNECTION THAN OUR
DEVELOP AND PLAN DOES NOT WORK. >> SO YOU HAVE THREE INGRESS AND EGRESS IN TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT MIGHT HELP THE PEOPLE ON GREEN ACRES BECAUSE THEY CAN COME THROUGH AND TURN AT A LIGHT INSTEAD OF THAT DANGEROUS LEFT-HAND TURN.
I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THE 16 ENTRANCE THEY ARE CLOSE TO THAT LINE. BUT I GUESS--
>> THAT'S RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT. >> OH.
WE TALKED ABOUT MASONRY. THAT LITTLE HARVEST LANE.
IT ENDS RIGHT WHERE YOUR PROPERTY IS AND IT DOESN'T GO ANY FURTHER. IT'S A DIRT ROAD.
SO IT'S QUITE DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
THAT WAS IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> MR. LABANOWSKI. >> A COUPLE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE, THE BUFFER BETWEEN THE CI AND THE HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOREVER, 20-FOOT IS NOTHING.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT ALMOST DOUBLED AS FAR AS SOME GOOD GREENERY IN THERE, AS WELL AS A WOODEN FENCE OR WALL OR WHATEVER. BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE OF A BUFFER IN THE AREA, BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, THEIR LIVELIHOODS, THEIR ENTIRE FAMILY IS IN THAT ENTIRE AREA.
I'M GLAD TO SEE IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE UP THAT WHOLE AREA BECAUSE OF THE WETLANDS AND THE ATTENTION ON IT.
BUT I AM DEFINITELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUFFER.
>> OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION THAT I ASKED A PREVIOUS APPLICANT, ARE THERE ANY... ON THIS SITE.
>> NO. AND LINDSAY, OUR ENGINEER, WILL GO THROUGH OUR NEXT STEP ON THAT, NO INFORMATION TO CONFIRM
ON THAT. >> I WAS JUST SURPRISED, THERE WAS NO ENVIRONMENTAL INFORMATION.
WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THIS I THOUGHT YES, THIS IS A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
I DRIVE IT ALL THE TIME. YOU HAVE GOT A VERY GOOD CASE IN TERMS OF COMPATIBILITY. BUT WHEN YOU READ THAT PLAN POLICY, EIGHT-POINT, ONE POINT, 3.11, IT MENTIONS TRAFFIC IN THERE AS A COMPATIBILITY CONCERN.
SO MY MAJOR CONCERN WITH THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT IS SURROUNDED BY ALL SORTS OF STUFF, IS THE TRAFFIC CURRENTLY ON ROAD 16.
RIGHT NOW THE TOTAL TRAFFIC IS AT 124-- 126%.
AND TOTAL COMMITTED TRAFFIC IS AT 184%.
AND PART OF THAT COMMITTED TRAFFIC, I ASSUME, IS ALL THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING BUILT THERE, ONLY ON STATE ROAD 16, AND 4-MILE ROAD. AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE OF I-95.
A LOT OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES HAVE GONE UP.
AND SOMETHING I DID NOT REALIZE AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION, FERBER WAS MENTIONED UP THERE.
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I DID NOT KNOW THEY WERE INVOLVED IN THIS.I KNOW THE TRACK IS RIGHT THERE, THE TRIANGLE BETWEEN 4-MILE AND 16, AND KNOWING ON TO HOMES, IT DOESN'T EXTEND TO HOMES, BUT, THE TRAFFIC IS SOMETHING THAT IS JUST OUT OF CONTROL ON STATE ROAD 16 RIGHT NOW. WE ARE ALREADY AT 186 PERCENT, 184% FOR TOTAL COMMITTED TRAFFIC.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK LEX AND JACOB, ARE WE VIOLATING THE PLAN TO APPROVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHEN WE HAVE SUCH A-- I WILL USE THE WORD EGREGIOUS, TRAFFIC ISSUE ON STATE 16.
I KNOW THERE WAS THE TRAFFIC SEMI CIRCLE UP THERE ON I-95 AND ALL, WHICH I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, WE LIKE TO HEAR FROM
YOU. >> WE CAN ACTUALLY SHOW YOU THE TRAFFIC STUDY, SHOW YOU THE ACCOUNTS BASED ON WHAT WE THINK
WOULD BE THE PASSERBY. >> GREAT, I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT.
>> I DON'T WANT TO SPOIL IT BUT IT'S EXCEPTIONALLY LOW AS FAR AS
>> YES, TOM, THOMAS, WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE.
THOMAS HATCHER, ENGINEER. HOW ARE YOU DOING.
>> I'M ALL RIGHT. >> WHAT WERE YOUR EXACT
QUESTIONS FOR THIS? >> WHEN I SPOKE WITH ZACH EARLIER TODAY ON THE PHONE HE MENTIONED THAT A LOT OF THIS TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING TO BE UTILIZING THE SITE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DRIVE-BY TRAFFIC, A RESTAURANT COMING AND THERE, HE MENTIONED YOU MIGHT HAVE A HOTEL ON THE SIDE, I WONDERED, IN YOUR VIEW, HOW MUCH OF WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO BUILD, I KNOW IT'S NOT CERTAIN YET, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN ON THAT SIDE, HOW MUCH TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING TO GENERATE? BECAUSE THE COUNTY COULD NOT DO ANY TYPE OF ANALYSIS ON THAT.
SO WHAT ARE YOUR TRAFFIC COUNTS AND PROJECTIONS FOR THIS?
>> YES, SIR. THIS IS A CONVENIENCE STORE GAS STATION. THE PASS BY RATES WERE ROUGHLY 75%. AND THAT IS NOT INCLUDING THE DIVERTED TRIPS. JUST 75% PASSED BY.
PEOPLE JUST DRIVING PASSED THE SITE AND SWINGING IN, SWINGING OUT, NOTHING NEW ON THE ROADS. IF IT WAS A CONVENIENCE STORE GAS STATION, IF IT HAD 14 PUMPS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE WOULD HAVE 67 NEW TRIPS ON THE ROAD. AND MOST OF THOSE WOULD BE GOING TOWARDS THE INTERCHANGE THAT WAS JUST PUT IN.
>> THE INTERCHANGE WITH 95? >> YES.
PUT IN, CONSTRUCTED WITH LOTS OF MONEY.
[INDISCERNIBLE] >> EAST OF THE SITE WE WOULD BE LESS THAN 1% OF THE CAPACITY ON 16.
3290 VEHICLES PER HOUR. FOR 67 MOST OF THEM ARE GOING WEST. JUST OVER 1% ARE WEST OF US, BUT
>> WE ARE SUBJECT TO PERMITTING. >> SO YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE COMPETING WITH BUCKY'S THEN? NUMBER OF PUMPS, I GUESS?
>> I DON'T THINK WE COULD IF WE WANTED TO.
I DO LIKE THEIR BARBECUE. >> SO YOU ARE GOING TO BE APPARENTLY COMPETING WITH THAT WALMART RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD,
IF IT'S A GAS STATION? >> AND WITH THE WALL ALL RIGHT THERE I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE MOST OF THE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE SITE GOING EASTBOUND, SWINGING RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT.
THEY ARE COMING FROM THE EAST, AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO SAY THEY ARE GOING TO USE IT PROPERLY, THEY WILL PROBABLY GO TO THE WAWA INSTEAD. THEY WILL HIT THE WAWA AND KEEP GOING ON. EASIEST ONE TO GET TO FOR GAS
STATIONS. >> I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.
AND I'M GLAD YOU HAVE TRAFFIC INFORMATION AND THIS HELPED.
>> YES, KEEPING ME EMPLOYED. >> SURE.
IT IS IMPORTANT. I HOPE AI DOES NOT TAKE YOUR
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY BOARD MEMBERS?
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SEEING NONE, ANY REBUTTAL TO THESE COMMENTS? DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT ANYTHING ELSE? ZACH OR LINDSAY? OKAY.PUBLIC COMMENT TIME THEN. YES.
COME FORWARD. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. LET US KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY
FOR THREE-MINUTE. >> I AM DEBORAH COX.
I LIVE AT 2801 A YOU SEEN A ROAD EXTENSION.
I LIVE IN THE SUBDIVISION BEHIND GREEN ACRES.
GREEN ACRES, AND I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 20 YEARS, IT'S HE ONLY ENTRANCE AND EXIT FOR OUR SUBDIVISION.
AND FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS WE HAVE SEEN TRAFFIC GET WORSE AND WORSE, TO WHERE SOMETIMES WE SIT 20 MINUTES ON STATE ROAD 16 TRYING TO MAKE A TO GREEN ACRES SO WE CAN GET IN TO OUR SUBDIVISION. ESPECIALLY THE LAST TWO YEARS WHEN WE'VE HAD SO MANY SHUTDOWNS ON 95.
I FIND IT IRONIC THAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW THERE WON'T BE THIS MUCH TRAFFIC POPPING IN OFF OF 16.
THEN WHY ARE THEY BUILDING THE BUSINESS.
THEY EXPECT TO GET AS MUCH TRAFFIC AS POSSIBLE.
I DID A STUDY, I FOUND OUT THE AVERAGE 7-ELEVEN GETS 1000 PEOPLE PER DAY GOING IN AND OUT. 7-ELEVEN WILL COMPETE WITH WAWA, BUT THEY ARE RIGHT. EVERYONE COMING EAST WILL SEE A LIFT. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE HAVE, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE DRIVEN PASSED THEY ARE, HAVE YOU NOTICED HOW MANY PEOPLE USE THE SIDEWALKS? BICYCLE RIDERS? YESTERDAY I SAW A POWER UNICYCLE. I DIDN'T THINK THEY MADE ONE OF THOSE, BUT THEY DID. AND ALL OF THOSE WATCHED A PEDESTRIAN GET RUN OVER. BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE GOING UP AND DOWN THAT SIDEWALK ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE CARS TURNING WHEN THERE IS NOT A RED LIGHT THERE.
WHEN THEY TURN OFF OF GREEN ACRES WE'VE HAD PEOPLE ALMOST GET RUN OVER A COUPLE TIMES BECAUSE THERE NOT LOOKING AT US.
WHEN I PULL OUT, ON LOOKING BOTH WAYS ON THE SIDEWALK AND ON THE ROAD. SOMEONE IS GOING TO GET KILLED AT THAT INTERSECTION, BETWEEN THE U-TURNS, AND SOMEONE COMING FROM CHICK-FIL-A, BECAUSE THEY DON'T REALIZE THEY CAN USE THE RED LIGHT. THIS AREA IS SO OVERWHELMED WITH TRAFFIC. WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER BUSINESS THERE. I KNOW THE OWNER HAS A RIGHT TO DEVELOP IT. BUT FOR HEAVEN SAKES, ANOTHER GAS STATION? YOU HAVE FOUR WITHIN A QUARTER-MILE FROM EACH OTHER, ON ACROSS THE ROAD.
THEY SAY THEY WILL PROTECT THE WETLANDS.
HOW MANY TIMES A YEAR DO WE SEE SOMETHING REZONED AND THE WETLANDS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SET ASIDE AND SOMEHOW THEY GET EATEN BACK. EATEN BACK.
AND YES, THERE ARE GOPHERS THERE.
THERE IS ALL SORTS OF WILDLIFE BACK THERE.
I'VE SEEN BLACK BEARS. EAGLES.
GOPHERS, TURKEYS, DEAR. AND THEY ARE ALL GETTING SQUISHED IN. PLEASE DO NOT PUT MORE TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD. AND ON TOP OF IT, HAVING PEOPLE COMING FROM GREEN ACRES, THIS WILL MAKE IT HARDER AND HARDER TO GET IN AND OUT OF OUR OWN SUBDIVISION.
SO THINK OF THE IMPACT OF THE ROAD.
SOONER OR LATER ST. JOHN'S HAS TO REALIZE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE CANNOT HANDLE IT, AND I HOPE IT DOESN'T TAKE SOMEONE BEING KILLED, A PEDESTRIAN BEING RUN OVER BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT PAYING ATTENTION AND THE CAR WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION. I ALMOST SOUGHT HAPPEN YESTERDAY. THANK YOU, HAVE A GOOD DAY.
>> I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS. YES, SIR? STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. SIT WHEREVER YOU WOULD LIKE.
WHATEVER MICROPHONE YOU CHOOSE. >> GARY HOWELL.
I LIVE AT 170 HARVEST ROAD. ON THE GUY THAT OWNS THE ROAD.
THAT THESE PEOPLE WANT ACCESS ON TO BUILD THEIR 7-ELEVEN UP THERE. I'VE TALKED WITH MR. MARJORIE, I GUESS HE WILL BE THE PERSON TO PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER AND BUILD IT. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE PAVING DOWN TO A PORTION OF THE ROAD ON HARVEST LANE. THERE ARE THREE LANES THERE.
THESE FOLKS ARE TALKING ABOUT ONLY PUTTING IN 24-FOOT OF PAVEMENT. SO I ASSUME TWO LANES AND THEY'VE NOT MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT SIDEWALK OR ANYTHING FOR PEDESTRIANS. HERE IS A PORTION OF THE SIDEWALK NOW THAT EXISTS ON HARVEST LANE.
AND WE DO HAVE CHILDREN THAT COME IN AND OUT TO CATCH THE BUS UP THERE TO GO TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY.
SOMEONE WON'T BE RIDING A BUS, BUT THAT HAPPENS EVERY DAYS, SO THERE IS A CONCERN THERE. AND I HEARD YOU ADDRESS THAT.
I AM NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST DEVELOPMENT.
DEVELOPMENT IS GOOD IF IT IS DONE DIRECT-- CORRECTLY.
THESE PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS, BUT THE IMPACT AND THE ROADWAY IS A PRIMARY CONCERN. AND HE-- YOU POINTED THAT OUT YOURSELF, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THINK AS SOON AS THE PEOPLE IN GREEN ACRES FIGURE OUT THAT WHEN THEY GET TO STATE ROAD 16, THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT ANYMORE, THEY WILL CUT THROUGH
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THE 7-ELEVEN AND HIT HARVEST LANE.SO I AM THINKING THERE IS MAYBE 250 HOMES BACK THERE, WHICH IF YOU PUT TWO CARS TO EVERY HOME, THAT'S 500 CARS.
AND LET US JUST SAY, 100 OF THOSE PEOPLE CUT THROUGH THE 7-ELEVEN ON OUR ROAD, BUT THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT UP THERE IT'S GOING TO CAUSE AN IMPACT FOR US TO GET IN AND OUT.
THEY TALKED ABOUT PUTTING A STOP SIGN AT THEIR ENTRANCE TO HARVEST LANE. BUT THAT'S OKAY.
A STOP SIGN IS GREAT. I WORKED TRAFFIC WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FILE 33 YEARS.
I KNOW WHAT PEOPLE DO. THEY DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE SIGN, THEY BLOW RIGHT BY IT. WE EASE OUT OF THERE AND WE HAVE TO GO LIKE A GOPHER TURTLE. AND EASE OUT.
OR WE WILL GET HIT AND GET RUN OVER.
SAME THING WHEN THERE ARE KIDS UP THERE.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE ALMOST RUN THEM OVER WITH CARS.
SO THIS LADY HAS SOME GOOD POINTS.
WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO GET KILLED UP THERE.
BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO STOP THIS PROJECT.
I OWN THE PROPERTY IN BETWEEN. MR. GREEN'S EX PROPERTY THERE.
AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IT GO FORWARD.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE DEVELOP, WE DO THE RIGHT THINGS AND PROTECT PEOPLE AND LANDOWNERS, AND I THINK THAT SUMS IT UP. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'D BE
GLAD TO ANSWER THEM. >> ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, REBUTTAL TIME FOR YOU ALL.
>> THE LADY, I'M SORRY, I DID NOT CATCH YOUR NAME.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, CONNECTIVITY WILL REALLY HELP THAT AREA. OBVIOUSLY, IF REQUIRED, WE HAVE THE SIDEWALKS IN THAT AREA. SO WE CAN HAVE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS. I THINK MS. HAGUE ACTUALLY HAS A VISUAL. WHAT HER CLIENTS ARE WILLING TO
DO AS FAR AS EXPANDING. >> THAT WILL WORK.
IF I COULD USE THE-- THE OTHER PLAN.
IF YOU CAN POP IT BACK UP. THANK YOU.
ABOUT INCREASING THE BUFFER, YES.
MR. MUNDAY AGREES TO WIDEN THIS AREA TO 40 FEET.
AND COUPLED WITH THAT DISTANCE AND THE STANDARD WHERE WE HAVE CAPACITY FOR FENCE AND CANOPY TREES, YOU GET GREATER DEPTH, AND THE FENCING ON THE SCREENING STANDARD.
YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CONNECTION TO HARVEST OUR THAT THIS AREA THAT YOU SEE WOULD BE 40 FEET. WE WOULD COMMIT TO THAT IN OUR
-- MISS SPIEGEL. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK SOMEONE TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE ROADS.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE MR. LABANOWSKI--
>> I SEE HE IS HERE. YES, SORRY.
>> JUST TO GO BACK TO THE BUFFER.
ON THE WEST SIDE, ILL HAVE THE 40 FEET IN THE YEAR.
BUT ON THE NORTH SIDE KEEP IT AT 20.
>> YES, AND YOU CAN IMAGINE WHERE WE HAVE THE ORANGE ARROWS.
THEY USED-- USE OF THAT ARM IS THE CONNECTION THAT WE COME OUT TO. TO THAT POINT, YES, WE WOULD HAVE A CONTINUATION AND A CONNECTION TO THAT SIDEWALK.
HERE WE WOULD HAVE 20. THE SCREENING STANDARD IS THE SAME. THE DEPTH IS 20 ALONG THE ARM.
AND 40 OF THIS PIECE. >> ON THE HARVEST SIDE THERE, THERE ARE PLANS ON PUTTING A FENCE WALL BACK OR WHAT IN
THERE? >> YES, UCB HAVE THE 20 FEET.
YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WOULD INCREASE THE SCREENING STANDARD TO BE WHERE YOU HAVE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL USE AND OPEN RURAL TO THE COMMERCIAL USE. SO THAT STANDARD-- THIS STANDARD YOU CAN DO FENCING, CAPACITY OF PLANTINGS.
SO THE BE STANDARD IS THE HIGHER ELEVATION BETWEEN THE TWO USES.
>> IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED CARS GOING BETWEEN HARVEST AND GREEN ACRES, THE CONCERN IS WITH THE HOMES BEING RIGHT THERE IN THAT AR AREA... IT IS A CONCERN OF
YOU'D HAVE THAT 20-FOOT BUFFER THERE WITH THE SCREENING, WHICH REQUIRES THE FENCING. AND INCREASING IT HERE.
AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU CAN ESSENTIALLY SEE WHERE YOU HAVE
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THE ARROWS, WHAT WOULD REPRESENT A POTENTIAL DRIVEWAY PATH THROUGH. AND THE STOP CONDITION ON THAT>> I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT POINT ON THE RECORD.
WERE DEALING WITH CONVENTIONAL ZONING.
FOR THESE CONCESSIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE AREA, WHO DON'T KNOW WHO IS GOING THERE AND WHO WANTS COMPATIBILITY.
BUT EVEN THOUGH THE CURRENT ZONING IS THERE, WE CAN CONNECT THOSE ROADS AND THERE WOULD BE NO BUFFER.
SO THE CONNECTION COULD HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF THE ZONING.
>> I APPRECIATE THE BUFFER VERY ĆMUCH.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. MR. JUST SOUSA THAT COULD YOU SPEAK TO THE SIDEWALKS IN HARVEST LANE AND GREEN ACRES ROAD AND ON NOT? THANK YOU.
>> YES. ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR GROWTH MANAGEMENT. HARVEST LANE EXISTS IN IT'S CURRENT STATE AS AN EASEMENT. SO IT'S GOT SERVICE ACCESS AND SERVICE TO THOSE THAT HAVE THOSE RIGHTS TO IT.
THE LAND DEVELOPMENT ZONE REQUIRES FOR ALL NEW ROADS ARE CONSTRUCTED AS ROADS, SPECIFICALLY THEY ARE PLOTTED AS ROADS TO HAVE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY SIDEWALK ON A MINIMUM OF ONE SIDE. THERE ARE OTHER INSTANCES WHERE YOU HAVE THAT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THAT LEADS TO THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR STATE ROAD 16.
SO IF THIS WAS INTENDED TO SERVE MORE OF THE PUBLIC WE WOULD ASK FOR A CONTINUATION OF THAT SIDEWALK INTERNAL TO THIS SITE, AND WITH OUR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WE WOULD HAVE A PEDESTRIAN FACILITY BUILT INTO THE SIDE WITH SIDEWALKS CONNECTING IT, AND TERMS OF WHICH SEEK-- ONCE YOU GET ONTO GREEN ACRES, THIS GETS PRUNED AND THEN YOU GET THE CONNECTION TO GREEN ACRES. IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT WE WOULD HAVE SIDEWALK REQUIREMENT ALONG THAT FRONT EDGE.
OLD ROAD, BIG DITCHES, NO EXISTING SIDEWALKS OUT THERE.
BECAUSE GREEN ACRES IS A LOCAL ROAD, IT'S PRETTY BLACK AND WHITE WITHIN THE LAND OF ELEMENT CODE THAT SAYS IF YOU'RE ON A EXISTING ROPE-- LOCAL ROAD AND THERE IS NO SIDEWALK, ARE NOT UNDER ANY OBLIGATION TO ADD ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK.
BUT IT'S ONLY REALLY TRIGGERED FOR THOSE ROADS THAT ARE ABOVE THE LOCAL ROAD STANDARD THAT WOULD BE THE MINOR OR MAJOR COLLECTOR, AND FORCING SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION ON THOSE ROADS.
BUT IN THIS INSTANCE, IT WOULD BE A CONTINUATION FROM THAT ZACKS BEES, WHERE THE POINT OF HEADING TO THE NORTH POETS-- NORTHPORT'S-- NORTHPORT'S, STATE ROAD 16.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION TO THAT FACILITY.
I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? SEEING NONE, TIME FOR DISCUSSION AND A MOTION AND VOTING. MR. MATOVINA.
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING 22,604 STATE ROAD 16 COMMERCIAL BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND HANDING A CONDITION THAT THE BUFFER ALONG THE EASTERN BOUNDARY-- HOW TO DESCRIBE THIS... YES, THE BUFFER ALONG THE EASTERN BOUNDARY WHERE IT IS PARALLEL, BUT NOT ADJACENT TO HARVEST LANE, OUTSIDE THE WETLAND, WILL BE INCREASED FROM 20 TO 40 FEET.
IS THAT OKAY? >> PARALLEL WITH THE OTHER SITE.
YES, THAT'S THE KEY. >> THANK YOU.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION, SECONDED BY MS. PERKINS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO VOTE. PUT THAT SCREEN UP.
THAT PASSES FIVE TO ONE. CONGRATULATIONS.
ALL RIGHT. ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT HAVE BEEN DEFERRED OR TABLED OR CONTINUED UNTIL JUNE 4TH.
[Staff Reports ]
WE WILL SEE LEXAN JACOB-MAC FOR FILE THAT ITEM AT THAT TIME.ANY STAFF REPORTS? >> I DON'T HAVE ANY PARTICULAR STAFF REPORTS, BUT THIS DID COME UP A BIT IN CONVERSATION WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE HEARING DATES.
OUR NEXT UPCOMING HEARING DATE IS JUNE 4TH.
BUT I WANTED TO MAKE MENTION THAT THERE IS A JULY 9TH MEETING. WE TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE A MEETING OF THAT TIME FRAME AROUND JULY 4TH.
BUT WE HAVE BEEN SO BUSY THAT I MADE SURE TO INCLUDE TWO WEEKS
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IN JULY. OF SPECIAL NOTE, JULY 9TH WILL BE A MEETING THAT PREDOMINANTLY HOSTS THE DAILY USE PLACEHEARING. >> A LONG AND HOT SUMMER.
>> SO THERE IS NOT A JULY 2ND MEETING?
IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT.
IT WILL BE JULY 9TH AND JU JULY 2020.
>> MR. AYE-- MR. MATOVINA. >> I THINK I JUST GOT A TEXT THAT SAYS I NEED TO BE OUT OF TOWN ON JULY 9TH.
[Agency Reports ]
>> OKAY. I HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS. WE TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A SMALL WORKSHOP ON WITH THIS BOARD. ONE OF THEM THAT CONSTANTLY COMES UP IS DISTANCE FROM SOMEBODY WANTING A LIQUOR PERMIT, AND PROXIMITY TO A CHURCH, AND IT'S 1000 FEET, 100.
SO MAYBE THAT IS-- I DON'T WANT TO BE SKEWERED FOR SAYING THIS, BUT MAYBE THAT'S A BIT ANTIQUATED AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT REDUCING THAT DISTANCE? TO SOMETHING LESS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE. BUT THAT MIGHT SAVE US QUITE A FEW HEARINGS AND SO FORTH. SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. BUT I WOULDN'T HOLD IT JUST FOR THAT. WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE SUBSTANTIVE FROM HERE. AND ONE THING THAT OCCURRED TO ME WHEN I REALIZED, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING THIS UP DURING THE ITEM BECAUSE IT'S IRRELEVANT. ABOUT THE LAST ITEM WE JUST HAD.
BUT SINCE FERBER IS APPARENTLY INVOLVED IN THIS STATEMENT, FOR REZONING, I WONDER WHAT HAPPENED-- I RECALL IT AS A PROMISE, A PLEDGE. I THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE MOTION, THAT AS THAT FERBER PARCEL, BETWEEN 4-MILE ROAD AND STATE ROAD 16 COMING UP TO 16 WAS DEVELOPED, AND IT'S UNDER HEAVY DEVELOPMENT NOW. APARTMENTS ARE PRACTICALLY UP.
I DON'T THINK THEY ARE OCCUPIED, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THERE, BUT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A RIGHT TURN LANE BUILT ALONG 4-MILE ROAD, AND AT THE TIME I ARGUED THAT I DID NOT SEE HOW A RIGHT TURN LANE COULD FIT IN THERE.
THERE WAS VERY LARGE CONCRETE UTILITY POLES RIGHT OFF OF 4-MILE ROAD. AS YOU ARE FACING NORTHWEST, THEY WOULD BE ON YOUR RIGHT SIDE.
BETWEEN 4-MILE ROAD AND UTILITY, THE COUNTY UTILITY BUILDING.
I WAS HOPING THERE WOULD BE A PLEDGE TO A RIGHT TURN LANE TO HELP FACILITATE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ON 4-MILE ROAD.
SO MAYBE THIS HAS STOOD UP, THIS ADDRESS.
MAYBE YOU COULD GO BACK AND LOOK IT WAS IN THE MOTION.
I DON'T RECALL. BUT THAT WAS PROBABLY FOUR YEARS
AGO. >> I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T BRING MY LAPTOP TO LOOK THAT UP. I'M SURE JACOB COULD LOOK AT THOSE PLANS. THERE'S A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT'S UNDER DESIGN. THAT'S LOOKING AT STRUCTURE 16 FURTHER SOUTH THAN THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DESIGN IMPLICATIONS GOING ON, I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS BEEN FINALIZED AS OF THIS MOMENT. SO THAT'S TO GREATLY APPROVE THAT THROUGH FAIR, ALL ALONG THEIR.
AS WE ARE TRYING TO PULL UP THOSE PLANS.
BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS PLANNED. THAT PROJECT IN FACT THEY ARE-- WHATEVER IT WAS THEY PAID TO US, IT WAS A MIXTURE OF BOTH A SHARE AND PREIMPACT FEES THAT WENT TOWARDS THE SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS THERE THAT INTERSECTION THAT PUBLIC WORKS IS CURRENTLY UNDERTAKING. AND I KNOW THAT'S ON SPECIFIC TO THAT RIGHT TURN LANE, BUT IT'S SPECIFIC TO WHAT THE GENERAL NEEDS AND IMPROVEMENTS ARE WITHIN THAT AREA, INCLUDING THAT DIRECT ACCESS LINK. AND THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THE PUBLIC WORKS HAS EXTENDED, FURTHER SOUTH, YOU WOULD EXPECT, BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO FIX THOSE ISSUES OUT THERE WITH THAT INTERSECTION, AND LEX HAS IT PULLED UP. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO PULL UP THE PLANS QUICKLY TO SEE ABOUT THAT RIGHT
TURN PLAN. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW THE EXTENSION OF 312, OR 313, WHATEVER IT HAS BEEN CALLED, AS IT COMES OVER, IF IT'S GOING TO COME OVER 4-MILE ROAD AND NORTH.
HOW THAT IS GOING TO COMPLICATE THINGS.
I GUESS THAT IS A VERY EASTERN, SOUTHEASTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY BETWEEN THAT AND IN THAT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
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>> HERITAGE LANDING, I CAN'T RECALL THE NAME.
BUT NOT TO SOUND CYNICAL, BUT I CAN'T RECALL ANYTHING BEING COMPLETED UP TO THAT POINT THAT MY TIME HERE AT THE COUNTY.
THAT'S QUITE AN EXPENSIVE PROJECT.
OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A LOT OF NEED HERE IN THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF RAILWAY IMPROVEMENTS. I WOULD NOT EXPECT A 3122 HAPPEN AT ANY TIME IN THE NEARER MIDTERM FUTURE.
THAT WOULD BE THE COST OF THAT ROAD AND IMPROVEMENTS EXISTING
IN OUR AREA SPEE-- >> YOU WOULD KNOW.
WERE HEARING IT FROM YOU. OKAY.
>> I WILL TRY TO ADDRESS A BIT ABOUT THE FERBER PROPERTY.
I'M HAVING TROUBLE PULLING UP THE PLANS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, BUT I DID PULL UP THE PUD.
IT DOES SHOW ACCESS THERE ON 4-MILE TO SHOW THE RIGHT TURN LANE. ALL THAT IS LABELED POTENTIAL.
ALL HAVE TO DO MORE RESEARCH. A LOOK AT THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND I'LL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. BUT I AM HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT-- UNLESS THERE ARE ANY MORE BOARD COMMENTS ABOUT THE ALCOHOL WORKSHOP CONCEPT, MORE THAN ANYTHING, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW IF THE BOARD, ONCE-- AT A STAND-ALONE MEETING YOU HINTED TOWARDS AT. OR WE JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT WORKSHOP ON THE TAIL END OF AN AGENDA ON A REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING. BUT BY ALL MEANS, I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON STUFF INTERNALLY FOR PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES, AND I HAVE LOTS OF IDEAS TO BRING THEM TO THE TABLE TO SMOOTH OUT THE ALCOHOL
PERMITTING PROCESS. >> HAVING IT AT THE TAIL END OF THE MEETING IS-- ON A LIVE AGENDA DAY WOULD BE FINE.
BUT YOU HAVE TO ADVERTISE THAT. SO YOU DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE A LIGHT MEETING OR NOT ON ANY GIVEN DAY.
ANYONE ELSE? MOTION TO ADJOURN? WE
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