Dec 03, 2019 Board of County Commissioners

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>> SPEAKER: I WILL NOW CALL TO ORDER DECEMBER 3, 2019 REGULAR MEETING OF THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. MAYHAP THE CLERK CALLED A ROLE.

MUCH. WE WILL NOW ASK THAT CHAPLAIN KELLY KEMP COME FORWARD AND GIVE US THE INVOCATION AND ASKED THAT EVERYONE PLEASE STAND.

GOOD MORNING. >> AS WE TRANSITION FROM THANKSGIVING TO THE CHRISTMAS SEASON, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO SHARE MATTHEW CHAPTER 29.

JESUS BORN IN BETHLEHEM AND THE DAY OF HERA BECAME THE WIESMAN IN THE EAST OF JERUSALEM. SAYING WHERE IS HE IS BORN KING OF THE JEWS WHO HAVE SEEN THE STAR OF THE EAST AND HAVE COME TO WORSHIP HIM. HE ASKED THIS QUESTION HERE Ã HERE TO ASK IS WIESMAN TO TELL HIM WHERE.

THEY SAID THOU BETHLEHEM THE LAND OF JUDEA ARE THE LEAST AMONG THE PRINCIPLES OF JUDAS NOW SHOW ALL MY PEOPLE OF ISRAEL. IT MEANS THE HOUSE OF BREAD.

HE IS THE BREAD OF LIFE. WHAT'S AWESOME IS THE WIESMAN SOUGHT HIM. I THINK IT'S GREAT EVERY DAY WE GET A CHANCE TO HAVE AN APPLICATION WE ARE SEEKING GOD'S WISDOM. LET US PRAY.

WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY AND WE THANK YOU FOR THANKSGIVING.

WE PRAY AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE BLESSINGS YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US THIS YEAR. WE THANK YOU FOR OUR GOVERNMENT HERE AND WE PRAY YOU BLESS THEM HEAVENLY FATHER GOD IN HIS WIESMAN SOUGHT YOU SO LONG AGO WE PRAY GOD WILL CONTINUE TO SEEK YOU, HEAVENLY FATHER, FOR WISDOM.

SHOW US WHAT WE SHOULD DO AND WE THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL AFFECT AND HELP OUR COMMUNITY. WE PRAY YOU GIVE US WISDOM TO KNOW HOW TO STOP THE DRUGS AND CRIME AND IN THIS COUNTY, HEAVENLY FATHER. WE PRAY TO HELP US HAVE WISDOM FOR OUR RADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE THANK YOU SO MUCH AS WE RECOGNIZE WE THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK THEY DO. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS AND WE PRAY TO GOD WE SEEK YOU WITH ALL OF OUR HEART AND JESUS MOST

PRECIOUS NAME, AMEN. >> SPEAKER: PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD,

[ Proclamations]

>> SPEAKER: WE WILL HAVE REPRESENTATION BUT MOSQUITO CONTROL. MS. TRISH, ARE YOU READY TO GO?

>> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. MY NAME IS TRISH BECKER AND I AM THE NEWEST ELECTED COUNTY COMMISSIONER ON THE ANASTASIA MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT 4. ANASTASIA MOSQUITO CONTROL OR A MCD IS AN INDEPENDENT DISTRICT THAT COVERS ALL OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE ARE ONE OF 14 INDEPENDENT DISTRICTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

AND OUR BUDGET COMES FROM THE PROPERTY TAX MILL AND TREES WHICH WE JUST LOWERED TO POINT TO ONE PER THOUSAND DOLLARS.

EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE RECENTLY GONE FROM 1000 SERVICE REQUESTS PER YEAR TO 5000, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP OUR COSTS LOW AND SERVICE WELL. A MCD HAS RECEIVED MULTI-MILLION-DOLLAR GRANT FUNDS FROM FEDERAL, STATE, AND PRIVATE AGENCIES TO SUPPORT OUR RESEARCH PROGRAMS SINCE 2003.

SOME OF THE AGENCIES WE WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, HOMELAND SECURITY, THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, ALL OF OUR ARMED FORCES AND MANY MORE.

AMCD STARTED IN 1949 AND WE ARE CELEBRATING 70 YEARS OF EXCELLENT PUBLIC SERVICE. AND THIS YEAR, WE COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION ON OUR NEW STATE-OF-THE-ART 18 ACRE FACILITY. AND OUR DISTRICT IS UNDER THE PROCESS APPLICATION OF THE GLP WHICH IS A GOOD LAB PRACTICE.

WE WOULD BE THE FIRST IN THE UNITED STATES TO RECEIVE THIS AWARD, AND THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF THEM IN THE ENTIRE WORLD THAT HAVE THEM, SO IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL WHEN WE GET IT. SO TO SAVE MONEY AND BE MORE EFFICIENT, WE WENT FROM FOUR SUBSTATIONS TO ONE CENTRALIZED STATION. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURES,

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RECENTLY, OUR DIRECTOR, DOCTOR RUDY, RECEIVED AN AWARD FROM THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION FOR HIS EXCELLENT CONTRIBUTIONS IN MOSQUITO CONTROL. SO FOR PEOPLE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROGRAM, YOU MIGHT WONDER WHY DO WE NEED MOSQUITO CONTROL? AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE GRAPHIC HERE, MOSQUITOES KILL MORE PEOPLE THAN SNAKES, SHARKS, MORE, OR ANY OTHER THING, REALLY.

AND THAT NUMBER HAS GONE UP TO ALMOST A MILLION PEOPLE A YEAR NOW THAT ARE PASSING AWAY FROM MOSQUITO RELATED DEATHS.

PIECES OF AMBER HAVE BEEN FOUND AND DATED BACK TO 3 MILLION YEARS AGO THAT HAD MOSQUITOES ENDED WITH MALARIA.

SO THE WAR ON MOSQUITOES IS NOTHING NEW, BUT WE ARE INNOVATING NEW TECHNOLOGIES AND WAYS TO STOP IT.

IN OUR LOCAL AREA, MOSQUITO CONTROL IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IN 1821, ST. AUGUSTINE HAD THE YELLOW FEVER EPIDEMIC.

HUNDREDS PASSED AWAY, AND THOSE THAT DIDN'T FLOOD THE AREA.

SO THEY WOULD NOT DIE. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, THE HUGUENOT CEMETERY IS WHERE THEY ARE VARIED AND THAT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE FORT.

THE LAST TIME WE HAD A MOSQUITO ACQUIRED DISEASE LOCALLY WAS IN 2003. SO HOW DO WE TREAT? WE DO RESEARCH PREVENTION, SURVEILLANCE, AND TREATMENT.

AND FOR OUR SURVEILLANCE, WE HAVE 10 SENTINEL CHICKEN AND MOSQUITO PULLING SITES IN ALL PARTS OF THE COUNTY THAT WE CHECK. WE HAVE CDC TRAPS ALL OVER THE COUNTY AS WELL AS JAVID TRAPS AND SERVICE REQUESTS FROM THE PUBLIC. THE MAIN PESTICIDES WE USE OUR NATURAL. A COCOA NET OIL AND BTI.

BTI IS DERIVED FROM SOIL AND IS TECHNICALLY CONSIDERED AN ORGANIC MATTER. AND THAT'S THE PRIMARY THING THAT WAS GREAT. SO YOU CAN FEEL SAFE KNOWING THAT WE ARE NOT PUTTING A BUNCH OF DANGEROUS CHEMICALS IN THE AIR. WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH SURROUNDING COUNTIES, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE INDEPENDENT DISTRICTS, BECAUSE MOSQUITOES DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNTY LINES ARE. THEY JUST WILL FLY OVER.

SO WE HAVE TO STAY ON TOP OF EVERYTHING.

AMCD IS ONE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY'S, PESTICIDE STEWARDSHIP AWARD PARTNERS.

AND FOR OUR APPROPRIATE USE OF PESTICIDES AND PROTECTIONOF THE ENVIRONMENT SINCE 2006. SO ONE OF THE MAIN WAYS THAT WE KEEP OUR GREAT SERVICE AND OUR COST DOWN IS MY EDUCATION.

AND THAT MEANS EDUCATING NOT ONLY OUR EMPLOYEES BUT EVERYONE THAT LIVES HERE AND VISITS HER. WITH OVER A MILLION VISITORS PER YEAR IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, MANY OF THOSE COMING FROM ABROAD, THE NEXT MOSQUITO VIRUS IS ONE PLANE RIDE AWAY.

WE HAVE TO STAY ON TOP OF EVERYTHING.

AND LOCALLY, THE EGYPTYE MOSQUITO IS THE MOST DANGEROUS ONE HERE. THEY PRIMARILY LATER EGGS AND PLASTIC AND ARE CONSIDERED A CONTAINER MOSQUITO.

AND THAT'S A PICTURE OF ONE OF THE FEMALES THERE.

SO THIS SPECIES IS VERY AGGRESSIVE AND CARRIES DEADLY VIRUSES LIKE YELLOW FEVER, DENGUE, AND SICA.

RISING TEMPERATURES AND MORE RAINFALL WILL PRODUCE MORE MOSQUITOES AND PRESIDENT TRUMP'S CLIMATE COUNSEL HAS SAID MOSQUITO VECTOR ILLNESSES WILL TRIPLE IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS. SINGLE USE PLASTIC POLLUTIONS ESPECIALLY NEAR OUR WATERWAYS WHERE WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SPRAY ARE A BIG FACTOR IN MOSQUITO BREEDING.

AND SO THESE MOSQUITOES CAN LIGHT UP TO 200 EGGS AT A TIME AND SOMETHING AS SMALL AS A BOTTLECAP.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THESE PICTURES, IT'S VERY EASY TO HAVE MISSED YOUR BREEDING SITES AROUND YOUR HOMES.

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OVER THE YEARS OF HOSTING SEMINARS, WE HAVE GOT LOTS OF POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT TO OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, AND WE ARE VERY PROUD TO DO SO. EVERY RESIDENT AND VISITOR SHOULD KNOW WHAT AN AMAZING JOB THE ANASTASIA MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT AS, AND I'M SO PROUD TO ASK FOR THIS PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF EVERY MEMBER THAT'S EVER WORKED FOR THE ANASTASIA MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT. WE WELCOME YOU ANY TIME TO CHECK OUT OUR FACILITY, MAYBE EVEN RIDE ALONG IN THE HELICOPTER AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY.

ANY QUESTIONS? >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU. IF YOU WOULD HAVE ANYBODY ASSOCIATED WITH THE MOSQUITO CONTROL, COME ON DOWN, AND THE BOARD WILL COME DOWN AS WELL. I WILL ASK MELISSA LUNDQUIST TO COME FORWARD AND READ THE PROCLAMATION INTO THE RECORD.

>> A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA. WHERE'S THE ANASTASIA MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT WAS FOUNDED ON DECEMBER 8, 1948, AND BEGIN SERVICE IN 1949. IT HAS BEEN PROVIDING IMPORTANT COST-EFECTIVE PUBLIC SERVICE FOR PROPERTY TAXES WERE 70 YEARS. AND WHEREAS IN 1821 THE YELLOW FEVER EPIDEMIC THAT OCCURRED IN ST. AUGUSTINE CAUSING MORE THAN 100 DEATHS, THROUGHOUT HIS EXISTENCE THE ANASTASIA MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT CONTINUES TO PROVIDE LIFESAVING PREVENTION, TREATMENT, AND RESEARCH PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. AND WHEREAS AN EXCESSIVE NUMBER OF MOSQUITOES DIMINISH OUR ENJOYMENT OF THE OUTDOORS, PUBLIC PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS, ENTERS OUTDOOR WORK, DECREASES LIVESTOCK PRODUCTIVITY, AND REDUCES PROPERTY VALUES, IT IS IMPORTANT TO ENCOURAGE EFFECTIVE ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFE MOSQUITO CONTROL MEASURES AS WELL AS EDUCATION FOR COUNTY RESIDENTS AND THE COUNTY 'S MORE THAN A MILLION ANNUAL VISITORS. WHERE'S THE ANASTASIA MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT WORKS WITH MULTIPLE STATE AGENCIES AND GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS TO RAISE PUBLIC AWARENESS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PREVENTING AND SPREADING OF MOSQUITO BORNE DISEASES, INCLUDING MALARIA, ELEVATOR, WEST NILE VIRUS, SICA VIRUS AND OTHER FORMS OF ENCEPHALITIS THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN A SOURCE OF HUMAN AND ANIMAL SUFFERING ILLNESS AND DEATH IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THE UNITED STATES AND WORLDWIDE. NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT DECEMBER 8, 2019 BE RECOGNIZED AS ANASTASIA MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT APPRECIATION DAY.

PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA THIS THIRD DAY OF DECEMBER, 2019.

THE TEST HUNTER S. CONRAD CLERK OF COURT ERRED SIGNED BRAD BRADLEY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, JEFF ASKED SMITH CHAIRMAN.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE].

>> SPEAKER: ON BEHALF OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS I PRESENT TO YOU THIS PROCLAMATION.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND IF YOU EVER HAVE MOSQUITOES IN YOUR YARD, MAKE SURE TO VISIT OUR WEBSITE AND PUT IN A SERVICE REQUEST. IT'S FREE TO USE BECAUSE YOUR PROPERTY TAXES PAY FOR IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DUMP ANY STANDING WATER. [APPLAUSE].

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>> SPEAKER: I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT TODAY'S

PROCLAMATION. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> SPEAKER: MOTION CARRIES. YES SIR?

[Public Comment]

>> SPEAKER: I JUST WANT TO SAY WHAT A WONDERFUL JOB I HAVE OBSERVED AND FOLLOWED THE MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT SINCE 19 $0.84 WHEN I MOVED HERE. THEY JUST DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB, AND I WILL STAY THIS TOO, I THINK ARE KIND OF LIKE LAWYERS. YOU DON'T REALLY NOTICE OR THINK ABOUT AND THEN THEY DRIVE YOU CRAZY.

AS A LAWYER I WONDERED IF I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT MAKES A COMPARISON, BUT I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

>> SPEAKER: WE WILL MOVE ALONG INTO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> SPEAKER: THE BOARD WILL HELP PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON A REGULAR AGENDA. REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS WILL HAVE THEIR OWN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

ANY PERSON WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD SHOULD COME TO THE PODIUM. WE HAVE TO HEAR AND STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS. EACH PERSON SHALL BE PROVIDED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND THEY SHALL COMPLY WITH THE BOARD'S RULE OF DECORUM. COMMENTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE. NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL OMMISSIONER AND MAY NOT INCLUDE A DEMAND FOR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD.NO PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD WTH PERSONAL IMPORTANT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS.

MORE BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR. MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ANY DISRUPT OF DEMONSTRATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF THE COMMENTS. I WOULD ASK A SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS ANY MATERIAL TO PLEASE PROVIDE THIS TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE SO WE HAVE HERE THEY CAN GO INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.

PLEASE COME FORWARD WITH TWO MICROPHONES.

YES MA'AM? >> SPEAKER: SHERRY BADGER, 2772 S. COLLINS AVENUE, SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA.

A GREAT JOB YOU THOUGHT YOU CUT MEDUSA'S HEAD OFF.

THIS GOES BACK FURTHER. MR. ONE CHECK WAS NOT HIRED UNTIL 2007. THIS ALL WENT INTO PLAY IN 2002 AND 2004 WHEN COUNTY EMPLOYEES DREW UP A PHONY MAP TO SHOW A 60 FOOT EASEMENT. THIS IS A ÃI ENCOURAGE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU THAT REALLY CARE ABOUT GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF US TO LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS.

GO BACK TO OFFICE AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY THIS IS A 2006 MAP AFTER THE COUNTY IN 2004 SAID THAT THEY HAD A 60 FOOT EASEMENT. BACK IN 1998, ÃPROPERTIES GAVE 15 FEET, WHICH THE COUNTY HAD 30.

HE GAVE 15 FOOT, WHICH MEANT 45 FEET.

THIS IS A MAP FROM 1988. I ENCOURAGE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO PLEASE LOOK AT THESE, AND YOU CAN FIND OUT WHERE THE REST OF YOUR CORRUPTION LIES. LIKE BEING DENIED LEGAL INFORMATION FROM LEGAL. AND THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. PLEASE PROVIDE THAT TO THE CLERK. THANK YOU.

NEXT, PLEASE? PLEASE, MR. SLAVEN.

>> SPEAKER: CONVERT RELATIONS. THANK YOU FOR FIRING DAVID WANCHECK. I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS FOR SOME TIME BEFORE THE ELECTION OF THE SECOND COMMISSIONER.

I TURN TO MR. DEAN AND I TURN TO MR. WALDRON AND I SAID WOULD

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I SALUTE YOU, MR. WALKER, FOR YOUR COURAGE AND FOR MAKING THE CASE AND GETTING A UNANIMOUS VOTE.

AND I'M SORRY I WASN'T HERE TO SEE IT.

I APOLOGIZE. SOMETIMES I HAVE MEETINGS FOR

CONFLICT. >> SPEAKER: GIVE ME YOUR

ADDRESS. >> IS LIKE A BOX 3084 HOWEVER, A LITTLE TROUBLED WITH THE REPLACEMENT.

AND I WOULD SUGGEST TODAY IN ITEM 5, YOU WILL NEED TO CONSIDER CANDIDATES AND EVEN IF YOU'RE GOING TO LIMIT THE LISTED ELIGIBLES TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ELECTED MANY OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFERS, THERE IS AN ELECTED WOMAN IN A COUNTYWIDE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER ROLE AND WAS SHE ASKED AND ALSO WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED WHEN PRIOR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WAS LET GO, THEY BROUGHT IN AND AT INTERIM WHO HAD LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE TREATING COUNTY MINISTRATION BUILDING IS A CRIME SCENE. SOMEBODY BY BEN OR WALLY OUGHT TO BE CONSIDERED AND DO YOU NECESSARILY NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY AT INTERIM WHO IS FROM THE OUTSIDE? I THINK YES. BUT SHOULD IT BE HUNTER CONRAD? I DON'T THINK SO. AND WHAT HIS CONTRACT CONTAIN A CLAUSE STATING Ã

>> SPEAKER: WE CAN DO SOME [INDISCERNIBLE] BEYOND THE INSPECTOR GENERAL AND THEN TO THE GERRYMANDERING AND INTO THE VOTER SUPPRESSION THAT TAKES PLACE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY WHERE THERE IS NOT ONE EARLY VOTING LOCATION WITHIN THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE.

WHERE WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE ELECTED OFFICIAL HERE IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE ST. AUGUSTINE WATERWAY BEACH DISTRICT WHO DOES NOT EVEN LIVE IN THE COUNTY LET ALONE THE DISTRICT AND WANT TO RAISE CONCERNS WITH THAT WITH THE PERTINENT ELECTED OFFICIALS THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS, THEY WANTED TO CHARGE ME MONEY. THEY WANTED TO CHARGE ME MONEY TO KNOW WHAT THEY HAD DONE RESPONSE WHICH IS BASICALLY NOTHING. BUT THANK YOU FOR GETTING RID OF MR. WANCHECK. THE AIR IS CLEAR AND THE CORRUPTION IS DISSIPATING. I SALUTE YOU.

>> MR. BLOCKER: THANK YOU, SIR. COME ON, MR. REYNOLDS.

>> SPEAKER: TOM REYNOLDS 15 BRIGANTINE CT.

32080. NOW, SLABINSKI IS WRONG.

BECAUSE MR. WANCHECK WAS A GOOD COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

NOT PERFECT, BUT GOOD. I WISH WE WOULD'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT BETTER PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, BUT YOU KNOW, IS THIS THE NUMBER ONE COUNTY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA? DO YOU THINK WE JUST GOT THERE MAGICALLY? WE GOT THERE BECAUSE THE MAN THAT SAT IN THE CHAIR WORKED HARD. WORKED VERY HARD.

AND HE WAS WRONG BECAUSE I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THAT MEETING, AND I'M GOING TO SUGGEST EVERYBODY GO TO YOUTUBE WHEN COUNTY ATTORNEY PATRICK MCCORMACK SIDE OF THE LAW.

THAT CONVERSATION SORT OF STOPPED.

THE LAW WAS ABOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE TO THE PERSON BEHIND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR 'S NAME. ALL FIVE OF YOU ARE VERY SMART.

I THINK ALL OF YOU ALL THE TIME.

BUT I CAN'T THANK YOU FOR BREAKING THE LAW.

NOW, IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD, BUT YOU TARNISHED MR. WANCHECK. YOU REALLY DID.

YOU SUCKER PUNCHED HIM AND YOU KICKED HIM.

QUITE HONESTLY, I AM DISGUSTED. AND QUITE HONESTLY, YOU KNOW I RESPECT EVERY ONE OF YOU. YOU ARE INCREDIBLY SMART.

MAYBE MY FEELINGS ARE MORE HURTFUL MR. ONE CHECK'S BUT IN THE FUTURE, TRY TO REMEMBER THE LAW IS MOST IMPORTANT.

THE OATH YOU TOOK, OFFICERS OF THE COURT, MILITARY MEN FOUGHT FOR OUR LAWS. BUSINESSMEN, LONGTIME FAMILY

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ALL OF YOU. AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU SOMETHING. I HOPE YOU DO A LITTLE SOUL-SEARCHING BECAUSE MR. MICHAEL DAVID WANCHECK WAS WRONG. AND YOU ARE ALL GOOD PEOPLE, AND YOU COULD HAVE PROPERLY NOTICED IT, MAYBE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A TIME FOR SOME OTHER CONVERSATIONS.

MAYBE MR. WANCHECK MIGHT HAVE SUBMITTED A LETTER OF RESIGNATION. MAYBE THIS ENTIRE AUDITORIUM WOULD HAVE BEEN FILLED WITH PEOPLE COMPLEMENT TO HIM.

YOU KNOW, MR. SLABINSKI IS WAY WRONG.

ALL THE TIME. BUT YOU, GENTLEMEN, PLEASE OBEY

THE LAW. >> MR. BLOCKER: THANK YOU, SIR.

[Consent Agenda]

WE HAVE TWO PODIUMS HERE. MR. JIM AND I BELIEVE THAT

INCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >> SPEAKER: WE WILL NOW MOVE ALONG TO DELETIONS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> MR. DEAN: NONE.

>> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> MR. BLOCKER: IF WE COULD MOVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6 THE

TEMPORARY PARKING AT >> SPEAKER: CONSENT AGENDA.

ANYTHING? ANYTHING COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

>> MR. WALDRON: NO SIR. >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER JOHNS?

>> MR. JOHNS: NO SIR. >> WE DO NEED TO

MIC] >> SPEAKER: CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN WILL BE PULLED. IT IS A PLAT FOR SHILLINGTON LAKES. PHASE 4 UNIT FOUR.

ANYTHING ELSE? >> SPEAKER:

>> SPEAKER: I HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING HIM ALL SIGNIFY.

[Regular Agenda]

>> MR. BLOCKER: IF WE COULD MOVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6 THIS IS PONTE VEDRE BOLIVAR TEMPORARY PARKING.

IF WE CAN MOVE ONTO IMMEDIATELY AFTER AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 WHICH IS THE PONTE VEDRE BEACH SOUTH JIM RESTORATION AND KEEP THOSE TOGETHER. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THE MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS SO WE DON'T

KEEP THEM THE WHOLE MEETING. >> SPEAKER: WE WILL TAKE THAT

INTO CONSIDERATION. >> SPEAKER: I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS THIS MORNING. I WOULD RECOMMEND PULLING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, THE EMPLOYEE AGREEMENT.

I HAVE HEEDED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S COUNSEL IS NOT ENGAGED IN ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH MR. CONRAD REGARDING HIS CONTRACT OR HIS CONTENT AND I HAVE BEEN PROVIDED A PORTION OF SUNSHINE LAW THAT HAS BEEN INTERPRETED THAT SUCH AN INTERACTION IS NOT PERMISSIBLE. AND I HAVE YIELDED TO THE DEVICE. IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BOARD HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING ON MONDAY, DECEMBER 9, AT 9:00 A.M. TO PERSONALLY ADDRESS THE MATTER OF MR. CONRAD AND I WOULD ASK STAFF TO COORDINATE OUR SCHEDULES TO ACCOMMODATE THIS REQUEST IF IT'S POSSIBLE.

IF IT IS NOT, WE WILL LOOK FOR A DIFFERENT TIME.

MR. CONRAD IS SLATED TO BE HERE MONDAY, DECEMBER 9 AND HE SHOULD BE UNDER CONTRACT BEFORE PHE BEGINS WORK.

I WAS HOPEFUL IT WOULD ACCOMPLISH THIS TASK AHEAD OF HIS ARRIVAL BUT IT APPEARS THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE AT THIS POINT. THESE TWO ITEMS THAT THE SPORT NEEDS TO FOCUS ON FOR ESPECIALLY IN SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT MEETING AS WELL, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, IS THAT HIS SALARY AS WELL AS CANDIDACY FOR PUBLIC OFFICE.

WITH THIS SEDIMENTARY MOVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5 FROM TODAY'S AGENDA. I WILL TAKE THAT AS AN AMENDMENT IF SOMEBODY WAS SECONDED AND ÃWE HAVE TWO THE AMENDED AGENDA, JUST A MOTION TO DO SO.

I WENT TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT IN CASE SOMEBODY HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, THE RECOMMENDATION. ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT IT? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. THE ADMIN WILL BE TOO REMOVE THAT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANY OTHER THINGS? ANYTHING? ADMINISTRATION?

>> SPEAKER: NOTHING FROM ADMINISTRATION.

>> SPEAKER: MR. CHAIR, NUMBER FIVE NOT REMOVED FROM THE REGULAR AGENDA TODAY. OF COURSE, THAT WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR THAT SPECIAL MEETING AS THE HAIR HAD INDICATED IN PUBLIC COMMENT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT ITEM AT THAT TIME. NO OTHER CHANGES.

THANK YOU, SIR. >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER JOHNS?

>> MR. JOHNS: I LIKE A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON THE REQUEST FOR A MEETING ON DECEMBER 9. WHAT TIME DID YOU SAY?

>> SPEAKER: IF 9:00 IF THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.

IF NOT WILL HAVE ÃWE WILL COORDINATE OUR SCHEDULES.

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DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU? >> SPEAKER: I HAVE A CONFLICT

AT THE TIME. >> SPEAKER: MR. BLOCKER?

CONFLICT? >> MR. BLOCKER: I WILL ACTUALLY BE ON MILITARY ORDERS THROUGH WEDNESDAY.

>> SPEAKER: ALREADY. >> SPEAKER: I HAVE A MORNING

CONFLICT. >> SPEAKER: I WILL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF TO SEE IF WE CAN COORDINATE ÃIF WE CAN WORK ON THAT MONDAY IT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN HE'S COMING IN, EVEN LATER IN THE DAY. MS. LUNDQUIST, CAN YOU WORK WITH THIS? ALL RIGHT.

IF NOT WE HAVE TO MOVE IT LATER IN THE EEK AND HAVE TO DELAY HIS POTENTIAL EMPLOYMENT IN CANDIDACY THERE, IF YOU WOULD.

BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM FUNCTIONING AND HE NEEDS TO BE UNDER CONTRACT. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER ÃWITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S BEEN AN AMENDED AGENDA THAT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED. I WILL HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REGULAR AGENDA AS AMENDED.

PLUGS THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE MOVING OF ITEM NUMBER NUMBER

SIX, TWO. >> SPEAKER: YES.

A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

[Item 1]

WE ARE MOVING INTO AGEND ITEM NUMBER ONE.

THIS BEVERLY FRAZIER THIS IS AN EXPERT HEY DISCLOSURE REQUIRED.

COMMISSIONER JOHNS? >> MR. JOHNS: MR. CHAIR, I HAD A MEETING ON NOVEMBER 7 WITH MARK SHELTON THE APPLICANT AND SOME STAFF MEMBERS TO REVIEW THE SCOPE OF THE WORK, THE REQUEST AND ANY DIFFERENCES THAT WERE PROVIDED COMPARED TO PREVIOUS CONSIDERATION FOR THIS PROPERTY.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

>> MR. WALDRON: I ALSO HAD A MEETING WITH MARK SHELTON ON NOVEMBER 6 AT 8:30 A.M. WITH STAFF AND WE DISCUSSED THE APPLICATION. WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE BUFFERS THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED IN THE QUALITY OF THE TREES THAT WOULD

BE PLANTED THERE. >> MR. SMITH: COMMISSIONER

BLOCKER? >> MR. BLOCKER: AT A MEETING ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 7 AT 1:30 P.M. WITH MARK SHELTON AND WE DISCUSSED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.

SOME OF THE OUTLINE AS WELL. I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS WHICH HE

ANSWERED TO MY SATISFACTION. >> MR. SMITH: THANK YOU.

MR. DEAN? >> MR. DEAN: I HAD A MEETING ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 13 AT 1:00 P.M. WITH MARK SHELTON TO DISCUSS ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP BY MY

FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. >> SPEAKER: HAD A MEETING ON NOVEMBER 7 AT 11:00 A.M. WITH MARK SHELTON MIKE ROBERSON AND PAOLO SORIA. I DISCUSSED THIS DEVELOPMENT EDGE AND LANDSCAPING MEETING ALL OF THE CONDITIONS THE ADJOINING PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS A PUD CONSERVATION.

AND THE PORTION IS GOING TO BE REPRESENTED AS 15 FEET BY 33.

THAT'S WHAT I HAVE IN MY NOTES. MS. FRAZIER?

>> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE IN NON-ZONING VARIANCE 2000 1912 FOR THE SHOPS AT ST. JOHN'S PARKWAY.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR KNOWN ZONING VARIANCE IN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 60602H1.

TO ALLOW PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE AT 25 FEET IN LIEU OF THE 35 FOOT REQUIREMENT TO ACCOMMODATE THE LOCATION OF SOME ADVICE EATING FOR A RESTAURANT.

WITHIN THE SHOP THAT JAMES JOHNS PKWY. PUD.

SO I LOOK AT THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY.

IT'S NORTH OF COUNTY ROAD 210 W. OF ST. JOHN'S PARKWAY ABOUT TWO MILES FROM THE INTERSTATE 95 INTERCHANGE.

LIKE YOU COMMENTED THE LARGE AREA OF CONSERVATION WETLANDS IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO CARDWELL BAY AVENUE AND THE PROPERTY Ã THEY ARE DEFINITELY WELL UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND FRONT TO 10 W.

SO THE VARIANCE IS OUTLINED REQUESTED IS ALSO OUTLINED IN THE CONFERENCE OF PLANT IS REQUIRED TO ALLOW AN ENCOURAGEMENT OF THE REQUIRED 25 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE.

THE RELIEF REQUESTED IS FOR A MAXIMUM 10 FOOT REDUCTION FOR A LINEAR DISTANCE OF APPROXIMATELY 33 FEET.

THE SITE PLAN DEPICTS THE LAYOUT OF THE SHOPPING CENTER AND HIGHLIGHT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT EDGE AND A MINIMUM WIDTH IN THE OUTDOOR DINING AREA WILL BE BUFFERED FROM CARDWELL BAY AND HAVE ENHANCED PLANTING LIVE OAK AND WAX MYRTLE. THIS IS A LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN AND IT DOES SHOW THE SHOPPING CENTER WITH THE ANCHOR OUR FAIR MARKET THAT'S RECENTLY OPENED AND A LOOK AT THE INSET SHOWS THE 15 BY 35 PROPOSED AREA FOR THE OUTSIDE SEATING WITH THE REDUCTION TO THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE.

I ALSO HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT TO SHOW THE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING TO MEET THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS REQUIRED BY THE REDUCTION.

IN REVIEW A DEVIATION TO THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE MAY BE ALLOWED BUT THEIR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES IN MEETING THE REQUIREMENT DUE TO SHALLOWNESS UNUSUAL SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS WHERE CONNECTIVITY TO ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT MAKES A

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AS WELL TO ADDRESS THE PNON-ZONING VARIANCE REQUIREMENTS. ADDITIONAL BUFFER AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS MAY BE IMPOSED AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO MINIMIZE THE EFFECT OF THE REDUCED DEVELOPMENT EDGE TO ENSURE THE INTENT OF THE NORTHWEST SECTOR PROVISION.

THE REDUCTION REQUEST IS MINOR IN SCOPE AS THE REMAINDER OF THE BOUNDARY ADJACENT TO CARDWELL BAY AVENUE OVER 2000 LINEAR FEET WILL BE THE MINIUM 35 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE WITH.

THE AREA PROPOSED FOR REDUCTION TO 25 FEET WILL BE LIMITED TO FEET AS SHOWN ON THE SITE R FIRMLY PLANTED WITH ENHANCED LANDSCAPING'S. THE REDUCED ASH WILL NOT APPEAR FROM THE ROADWAY.T'S NOT A VICENTE OF DEVELOPMENT AND WILL BE LOCATED ACROSS CARDWELL BAY FROM THE WETLANDS.

THE REQUESTED DEVIATION APPEARS TO BE IN RESPONSE TO THE DIFFICULTY IN PROVIDING AN AREA TO BE LESS OF THE OUTDOOR DINING AT SEAN ADJOINING THE SHOPPING CENTER AND THE LAY OF THE RETAIL CENTER SPANS THE WIDTH OF THE PARCEL FROM ST.

JOHN'S PARKWAY WITH A 75 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY RESERVATION TO CARTWEEL BAY AVENUE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE.

THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT FRONTS TO 10 W. AND HAS EXISTING AND NEW STORMWATER PONDS CONSTRUCTED TO THE NORTH FROM THE RETAIL CENTER. THIS CORRESPONDENCE HAS BEEN RECEIVED REGARDING THIS REQUEST AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND PROVIDES FOR CONDITIONS AND SIX FINDINGS OF FACT TO SUPPORT A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND DOES PROVIDE FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT TO SUPPORT A MOTION FOR DENIAL. STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST APPEARS TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE WILL STAND BY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >> SPEAKER: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING ON WE WILL HEAR FROM THE

APPLICANT. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING.

>> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING. MARK SHELTON KIMBERLY HORN ASSOCIATES. 12 740 SUITE 2350 JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. I WANT TO FIRST OF ALL THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH ME AND THANK STAFF FOR THEIR HELP ON THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING TO CONSIDER THIS REQUEST.

WE AGREE WITH THE STATUS REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL IN THE FOUR CONDITIONS WE WILL HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SPIRIT >> SPEAKER: ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING ON. THANK YOU.

WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> IF YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE COME FORWARD TO EITHER THE PODIUM ÃPUBLIC COMMENT? T THIS TIME MR. CHAIRMAN NOT SEEING ANY PUBLIC COMMENT WE WILL CLOSE IT.

>> MR. SMITH: MARE BACK TO THE BOARD AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. TO ALLOW REDUCTIONS TO A PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE BASED ON SIX FINDINGS AND SUBJECT TO FOUR CONDITIONS AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND.

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>> MR. JOHNS: NINE. SPEETH

>> SPEAKER: I HAVE NONE TO REPORT AS WELL.

MR. SMITH? >> MR. SMITH: COMMISSIONERS, JACOB SMITH WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO NUMBER. REZONING 2000 1914 DOCTOR OSBORNE FAMILY REZONING. IT IS A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 2.88 ACRES OF LAND FROM COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY AND TOWARDS AN OPEN WORLD CONDITIONS TO OPEN WORLD.

ON THE LOCATION MAP YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY WHICH IS LOCATED SPECIFICALLY AT 199 BRAINERD DOCTOR JUST TO THE EAST OF U.S.

1 NEAR MOULTRIE CREEK. AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP INDICATING LAND USES. AND THE ZONING MAP SHOWING THE CURRENT CHD ZONING ADJACENT TO A FEW RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ZONES. AND LASTLY AN AERIAL MAP DEPICTING THE SITE. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE 2.88 ACRES. IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. THE PROPERTY'S IS ADJACENT TO FUTURE LAND USE TO THE SOUTH AND EAST OF AN AREA OF MOULTRIE

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AND STAFF HAS RECEIVED NO LETTERS OF CORRESPONDENCE AND ONE PHONE CALL INQUIRING ABOUT THE REZONING APPLICATION.

STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF REZONING 2000 1914 AND WE FIND THE REQUEST SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CONFERENCE POF PLANET APPEARS TO MEET THE INTENT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE I PROVIDED FOR FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL OF OUR FINDINGS FOR DENIAL AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PRESENT.

>> SPEAKER: ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? SEEING NONE WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

GOOD MORNING. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. I AM JAMES WHITEHOUSE ST.

JOHN'S LAW GROUP 104 STEVE GROOVE MANSE STREET.

I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE ON BEHALF OF DOCTOR OSBORNE AND HIS FAMILY. AS YOU HEARD FROM STAFF IT MEETS OUR LAND USE AND IS COMPATIBLE TO THE AREA.

WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM APPROVAL IN PLANNING AND ZONING AND I WILL HEAR FROM QUESTIONS OR PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING ON WE WILL MOVE TO

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT COME FORWARD TO EITHER ONE OF THE MICROPHONES UP FRONT.

PUBLIC COMMENT? AT THIS TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN, NOT SEEING ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> MARE BACK TO THE BOARD. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

THIS IS DISTRICT 3.

FROM MIC] AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

IT PASSES 5 TO 0. CONGRATULATIONS.

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>> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

DAMON DOUGLAS PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

JUST A MOMENT. HERE WE ARE.

SO WE ARE HERE TODAY TO HAVE A SECOND HEARING OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE MSTU ORDINANCE FOR THE SOUTH PONTE VEDRE DUNE PROJECT AND THE COASTAL HIGHWAY BEACH RESTORATION PROJECT.

SO I WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND AND WE WILL DISCUSS THE SERENADA COMPONENT, AND OF THE ARMY CORPS COMPONENT AND I HAVE A PROPOSED MOTION FOR YOU TODAY.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS A TWO PROJECTS CURRENTLY.

THERE IS A ONE-TIME DUNE RESTORATION PROJECT JUST NORTH OF SERENADA OCEAN VILLAS AND A 50 YEAR ARMY CORPS PROJECT TO THE SOUTH OF SERENADA OCEAN VILLAS.

THEY EACH HAVE TWO SEPARATE MUNICIPAL SERVICE TAXING UNIT AREAS. WE HAVE AT THE REQUEST OF THE SERENADA CONDO OWNERS ASSOCIATION, THEY CAME TO THE BOARD AND DIRECTION WAS GIVEN TO STAFF TO WORK WITH THEM TO BRING A PROJECT TO CONNECT THE TWO PROJECTS TO EXISTING PROJECTS. THIS WOULD HELP TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF BOTH OF THE PROJECTS AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PROTECTION FOR SERENADA.SO WE HAVE HAD SOME NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS OVER DOCTOR CLUBHOUSE, AND WE HAVE PUT A SURVEY BEFORE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS. HAD A VERY HIGH RESPONSE RATE, 82 PERCENT OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS RESPONDED, AND 91.8 PERCENT OF THOSE AGREED TO HAVE A TAXING UNIT OF APPROXIMATELY

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FOURTH DATE COASTAL HIGHWAY MSTU COMPONENT, THE ARMY CORPS HAS FINALIZED THE EXACT LOCATION OF THEIR PLANNED FULL TEMPLATE WHERE IT TRANSITIONS FROM A FULL TEMPLATE INTO TAPER AND BACK ÃWITH THE ADVICE OF OUR MSTU ATTORNEYS, WE ARE PROPOSING TO AMEND THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE PROPERTIES IN THE MSTU TO MATCH THAT FULL TEMPLATE AREA.

THIS IS A GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

MOVING THE OLD NORTHERN BOUNDARY NORTH TO JUST SOUTH OF THE SERENADA OCEAN VILLAS, FIRST SOUTHERN BUILDING THERE.

AND EXTENDING ÃOR ACTUALLY CUTTING THE OLD SOUTHERN BOUNDARY TO THE SOUTHERNMOST END OF THE FULL TEMPLATE FOR THE ARMY CORPS PROJECT. WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.ND WE HAVE A MOTION FOR YOU TODAY TO MAKE

THAT COMMITMENT. >> ANY QUESTIONS WERE STAFF? SEEING NONE WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.

IF YOU PUBLIC COMMENT COME FORWARD.

WE HAVE TWO MICROPHONES. PLEASE STACK UP AND WE WILL HEAR COMMENTS. GOOD MORNING.

>> MY NAME IS JOHN RICHARDS AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF THE SERENADA BEACH OCEAN VILLAS CONDOMINIUM COMPLEX.

NO SPEECH. JUST HERE TO ANSWER A QUESTION.

>> CAN YOU STATE YOUR RECORD? 220 NORTH SERENADA DOCTOR,

PONTE VEDRE BEACH. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: NO QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT COME FORWARD TO THE MICROPHONES. MR. CHAIRMAN, NOT SEEING ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT NOW CLOSE, WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> MR. DEAN: ORDINANCE 2019 82 AMEND ORDINANCE 2019 Ã25 CREATING THE SERENADA BEACH DUNE PROJECT EXTENSION MUNICIPAL SERVICE TAXNG UNIT AND AMENDING THE DESCRIPTION OF THE COASTAL HIGHWAY MUNICIPAL SERVICE TAXING UNIT.

>> SPEAKER: SECOND. >> A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, IF WE WILL PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES 5 TO 0. THANK YOU,

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AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6. MR. SORIA >> GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. PALO SORIA SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY. THIS IS PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6. THIS IS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TEMPORARY ACCESS AND PARKING TO PONTE VEDRE BEACH DURING MORNING HOURS.

SO TO JUST GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND, LAST BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING ON NOVEMBER 19, THE BOARD DIRECTED THAT AN AGENDA ITEM BE PRESENTED REGARDING PARKING ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. DURING WEEKDAY MORNING HOURS.

SUMMARIZE UNTIL 11:00 A.M. IN RESPONSE TO REQUEST FROM A CITIZEN. THIS ITEM PROVIDES INFORMATION TO THE BOARD AS WELL AS PROVIDES OPTIONS ÃOTHER OPTIONS OR ALTERNATIVES TO THE BOARD TO CONSIDER.

SO HERE IS THE BEACH ACCESS POINT TAKEN FROM OUR COUNTY WEBSITE. THIS IS PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

, SO THIS IS APPROXIMATELY PONTE VEDRE BLVD. AND YOU CAN Ã THIS IS MY FIRST LANDING. APPROXIMATELY 4.2 MILES TO THE NEAREST PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. TO THE NORTH.

APPROXIMATELY 3.2 MILES FROM MICHAEL'S LANDING TO THE GTM NORTH PARKING LOT, SO THAT'S KIND OF FRAMING THE DISCUSSION OF PONTE VEDRE BLVD. AND THE BEACH ACCESS POINTS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.HERE IT IS PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ANALYSIS OF THE 14 BEACH ACCESS POINTS ALONG PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

THE VARIOUS PRIVATE PARKING SPOTS, THE EXISTING CORONA ROAD

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MICKLER'S LANDING OVER HERE AND THE VARIOUS PARKING SPOTS SURROUNDING IT. SO THAT'S ALSO PUTTING IT INTO CONTEXT. SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY OPTIONS TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

YOUR OPTIONS ARE ONE, YOU KNOW, AND THIS ISN'T JUST A LIMITED AUDIO LOST TO BE ACCESSED DURING MORNING HOURS WE ARE THINKING MAYBE CORNERSTONE PART WHERE THE PARK IS THE USE OF THE GUANA BEACH ACCESS POINT DURING MORNING HOURS SO THIS IS THE WALKOVER AT THE GTM USE OF PRIVATE PARKING FACILITIES DURING MORNING HOURS. AMENDMENT OF THE EXISTING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW TEMPORARY PARKING ALONG PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

DURING MORNING HOURS WILL REMAIN AT US.

SO THESE ARE YOUR GENERAL OPTIONS.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT WHY THERE'S A PROHIBITION ON PARKING.

ORDINANCE 2006 Ã68 AMENDED THE EXISTING PROHIBITION OF PARKING AT PONTE VEDRE BLVD. AND IT'S FROM THE DUVALL COUNTY LINE ALL THE WAY SOUTH TO A POINT OF CURVATURE.

IT'S NORTH OF MICKLER'S LANDING APPROXIMATELY AT 11:05 PONTE VEDRE BLVD. IT MAKES EXCEPTIONS FOR EMERGENCY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLES, LARGE OVERSIZED VEHICLES THAT HAVE TO BE DEFINED BY STATUTE AND THEY REQUIRE CONES OR SOME KIND OF FLAGMAN IN ORDER TO DO THAT. TEMPORARY PARKING PERMIT WITH ON-SITE TRAFFIC CONTROL DEPUTIES DURING THE PERMIT.

SO THAT'S AN EXCEPTION AND THE OTHER EXCEPTION IS PRE-EXISTING IMPROVED PUBLIC PARKING ADJACENT TO CARLISLE CONDOMINIUMS. THESE ARE SLIM TO PARKING SPACES THAT SOUTH OF CORONA ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

THIS IS WHAT THE POINT OF CURVATURE IS, SO IT'S APPROXIMATELY THERE IN YOUR ORDINANCE AND IT CORRELATES TO THIS PARTICULAR AREA. SO FROM HERE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE DUVALL COUNTY LINE IS WHERE THERE IS A GENERAL PROHIBITION OF PARKING ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. AS A CITATION, SO PONTE VEDRE BLVD. OF COUNTY ROAD 203 IS A 66 FOOT WIDE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

IT IS A FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFIED AS A MAJOR COLLECTOR THAT USUALLY MEANS THAT IT REACHES 11,000 VEHICLE TRIPS A DAY OR ROADS. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT PONTE VEDRE BLVD. IS NOT EXPERIENCING 11,000 VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY. THAT'S JUST KIND OF A STANDARD DEFINITION. WHAT IT DOES IS IT CONNECTS ARTERIAL ROADS TOGETHER. IS EXPERIENCING AROUND 2 TO 4000 VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY. SO PONTE VEDRE BLVD. IS NOT EXPERIENCING THAT LEVEL OF TRAFFIC.

THAT'S JUST A STANDARD PROVISION FOR A MAJOR COLLECTOR. WHAT IT DOES IS IT DOES CONNECT ARTERIAL ROADS. SO THOSE ARE LARGE ROADS AND STATE ROADS THAT CONNECT IT TOGETHER.

SO AN ORDINANCE 2006 Ã68, THE BOARD CITED AS THE REASON ÃONE OF THE REASONS FOR PROHIBITING PARKING, THE AESTHETIC QUALITIES AND HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OF PONTE VEDRE BLVD. AND THE NATURE OF LANDSCAPING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ADMIT PRESENTS A PARKING CHALLENGE THAT IMPACTS THE PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE UNLESS IT'S PROPERLY REGULATED. ST. JOHNS COUNTY DOES HAVE A GENERAL SUPERVISION OVER THE COUNTY ROADWAY SYSTEM UNDER ITS PARKINGORDINANCE AND UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE.

SO PARKING IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN GENERAL IS COVERED UNDER THAT STATUTE AND IT'S ACTUALLY AN ALLOWED USE SO LONG AS IT DOES NOT CREATE A SAFETY PROBLEM DUE TO OBSTRUCTION OF THE TRAVELING, OBSTRUCTION OF SIGHT DISTANCE OR DAMAGE TO THE CLEAR ZONE AND THAT'S JUST THE GENERAL RULE.

OF COURSE, EACH KIND OF ROAD IN THE USE OF THE ROAD IS UNIQUE AND IT KIND OF GOES INTO FURTHERDETAIL WHEN PARKING IS ALLOWED AND WHEN PARKING IS PROHIBITED.

BUT THAT'S GENERALLY ON A WARRANT ANALYSIS BY PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION. PUBLIC WORKS DID GO OUT THERE AND ANALYZE PONTE VEDRE BLVD. RECENTLY.

AND THEY ARE STATING THERE IS LIMITED SPACE ALONG THE RIGHT-OF-WAY NORTH OF CORONA WHICH IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS POINTS ARE DUE TO EXISTING DRIVEWAYS, THESE SIDEWALKS IN THE LANDSCAPING PITS ON THE WEST SIDE, YOU HAVE THE SIDEWALK AND SIDEWALK RELATIVE TO THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT IS APPROXIMATELY 2 TO 3 FEET.

SO DOES NOT PERMIT A VEHICLE TO BE PARKED SAFELY WITHOUT ENCROACHING ON THE SIDEWALK ITSELF.

ON THE EAST SIDE, YOU DO HAVE YOUR EXISTING LANDSCAPING DRIVEWAYS WHICH LIMITS THE NUMBER OF AVAILABLE LOCATIONS.

AND ADDITIONALLY, PARKING TOO CLOSE TO YOUR DRIVEWAY MAY LIMIT LINE OF SIGHT FOR RESIDENTIAL OWNERS LEAVING THEIR DRIVEWAYS AND YOUR PONTE VEDRE PARKING ORDINANCE THERE'S A PROHIBITION OF IF YOU DO GET A PARKING PERMIT YOU DO NEED TO KEEP FIVE FEET AWAY FROM THOSE DRIVEWAYS.

AND PUBLIC WORKS IS STATING A CONFERENCE OF REVIEW OF IT

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LARGE AMOUNT OF HOUSES ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

AND STAFF WE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS THAN THE ONE REQUESTED. SO ALTERNATIVE OPTION NUMBER 1 IS THE USE OF PRIVATE PARKING FACILITIES DURING MORNING HOURS. SO STAFF DID REACH OUT TO VARIOUS PRIVATE CORPORATIONS LIKE THE CLUB THE CABANA CLUB THE PLANTATION AND THE SEASIDE PRIVATE ACCESS AND THAT NEAR TO MICHAEL'S LANDING. BASED ON THESE CONVERSATIONS, PLAN CONSTRUCTION AND SECURITY CONCERNS AND HOLIDAY TRAFFIC PROJECTED HOLIDAY TRAFFIC DOES LIMIT THE POTENTIAL USE FOR THE COUNTY. SO STAFF IS UNDER THE OPINION THAT THESE OPTIONS ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE BASED ON THE SHORT TIMEFRAME TO WORK OUT ANY UNDERSTANDING OR AGREEMENT WITH THESE PRIVATE ENTITIES. ALTERNATIVE OPTION NUMBER TWO IS A SHUTTLE SERVICE FROM CORNERSTONE PARK, SO THAT'S THE CONCERT HALL TO A BEACH ACCESS POINT AND THAT CAN BE THE BEACH ACCESS POINTS ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. OR THE BEACH ACCESS POINTS ON THE NORTH WALKOVER AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO EXAMINE THE COST AND CONTINUING CONTRACT FOR SHUTTLE SERVICE.

APPROXIMATE COST IS $300 PER DAY FOR A COUNCIL OF A SHORT BUS AND THAT HAS ACCESSIBILITY AND YOU CAN ALSO USE AN EXISTING PARK BAND THE COUNTY CAN ABSORB THE COST, BUT THERE'S NO WHEELCHAIR ACCESS ACCESSIBILITY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PARK BAND. BUT WE DO HAVE THAT SCHEDULED BY STAFF IF WE NEED TO. HERE IS KIND OF WHERE CORNERSTONE PARK IS, AND ITS APPROXIMATE LOCATION FROM THE PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS POINTS ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

THAT'S 3.8 MILES. ITS LOCATION FROM THE GTM NEAR NORTH WALKOVER THAT'S 3.8 MILES.

THIS IS AS THE CROW FLIES NOT TAKING IN ACCOUNT ROAD MILEAGE.

ALTERNATIVE OPTION I THINK WE ARE UP TO NUMBER THREE RIGHT NOW IS THE USE OF THE GONNA GTM BEACH ACCESS POINT.

THIS IS THE NORTH WALKOVER LOCATED AT 101131 OLD PONTE VEDRE DOCTOR THAT PARKING IS ACTUALLY MANAGED BY THE FRIENDS OF THE GTM RESERVE AND WE HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THEM.

THE GENERAL COST FOR PUBLIC Ã FOR PUBLIC PARKING IN THE PARKING LOT IS THREE DOLLARS PER VEHICLE UP TO EIGHT PEOPLE.

THE PARKING LOT IS OPEN FROM 8:00 A.M. UNTIL SUNSET, ACCORDING TO THE WEBSITE. IT IS LOCATED THE TENTATIVE COST FOR DECEMBER AND JANUARY IS APPROXIMATELY $4000 BUT WE ARE HAVING CONTINUING DISCUSSION KIND OF SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. IT WON'T EXCEED $4000.

YOU ASKED ME THE COST AND CONFIRMATION FOR THE MORNING PARKING. AND THIS IS THE NORTH WALKOVER AND PARKING LOT. LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 3.2 MILES FROM MICHAEL'S LANDING THAT'S THE PARKING SPACES.

THAT'S THE WALKOVER TO THE BEACH.

ALTERNATIVE OPTION NUMBER FIVE IS YOU CAN REMAIN AS IS THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DID RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS EXISTING IMPROVED PARKING SPACES.

ADJACENT TO AN EXCEPTION TO THE PUBLIC PARKING PROHIBITION IN THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE. THERE ARE 13 SPACES AND IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF CORONA AND PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 800 FEET TO THE SOUTHERNMOST WALKOVER AND THAT'S WALKOVER NUMBER 14. APPROXIMATELY 1300 FEET TO THE WALKOVER NUMBER 13 OR 14. I MAY HAVE FLIPPED THOSE.

HERE IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. THESE ARE THE 13 PARKING SPACES ON THE WEST SIDE OF PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

THIS IS CORONA ROAD THIS IS THE 13 SPACES.

THIS IS WALKOVER NUMBER 14. THIS IS WALKOVER NUMBER 13 AND THERE'S A SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE.

SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO TAKE NO ACTION IT WILL REMAIN AT IS AS PUBLIC PARKING AND THAT'S CURRENTLY AVAILABLE, AND THE BOARD HAS MADE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THE YEAR BEFORE TAKING ANY ACTION THE BOARD REQUESTED INPUT AND GENERALLY THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE PUT ORANGE SIGNS, WE DID A NOTICE WE USED. WE HAVE RECEIVED OVER A DOZEN

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AND THEY ARE CITING TRAFFIC AND SAFETY HAZARDS TO PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS OBSTRUCTION OR FRONT LAWNS AND THE BLOCKING OF DRIVEWAYS. WE HAVE ALSO RECEIVED EMAILS FROM THE PUBLIC PRIMARILY AGAIN BUT SOMETIMES FOR TEMPORARY PARKING ON THE BOULEVARD AND YOU RECEIVED THE PACKET YESTERDAY AND AN UPDATED PACKET TODAY FOR THOSE EMAILS AND SOME INFORMATION FOR THOSE GROUPS. SO AS FAR AS THE RECOMMENDED ACTION THIS IS DIRECTIONS AND STAFF SEEKS DIRECTION OF THE BOARD TO EXPLORE ONE OR MORE OF THESE OPTIONS OR A COMBINATION OF THESE OPTIONS AND YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE IT SUBJECT TO FEASIBILITY AND FURTHER ANALYSIS ON DIRECTED OPTIONS.

THAT IS THE PRESENTATION AND I WILL HAVE BE HAPPY TO ANSWER

ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> MR. BLOCKER: WHAT'S THE CURRENT DAILY TRAFFIC AT

MICHAEL'S SPEECH RIGHT NOW? >> MICHAEL EHR SPEECH ON THE PUBLIC PARKING LOT ITSELF OR THE ROAD?

>> THE PARKING LOT. RIGHT.

>> I WILL HAVE TO DEFER TO MAY BE PARKS AND REC ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT. ACCORDING TO OUR SPREADSHEET, THE PONTE VEDRE BEACH BOULEVARD FROM A1A TO CORONA EXPERIENCES AN AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC OF APPROXIMATELY 4000 VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY AND THAT'S JUST USING THE ROAD.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT USING THE PARKING LOT.

>> WHEN YOU PRESENT THIS INFORMATION WHEN I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS WHAT THE CURRENT TRAFFIC IS THERE IF YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY. DO YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS DOUG? I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.

WE'VE NOT BEEN DOING DAILY COUNTS BUT OBSERVATIONS OUT THERE. OUR STAFF HAS BEEN GOING UP AND CHECKING ON A LOT ON A DAILY BASIS.

THIS WEEKEND IT DID GET RECONFIGURED WITH THE SAND PILE GETTING MOVED OVER SO DID OPEN UP A LOT MORE PARKING.

LAST WEEKEND WE WERE MAXED OUT SEVERAL DAYS WITH PARKING OVERFLOWING ONTO THE ROAD WHICH IS TYPICAL FOR THAT PART AT ANY TIME. WITH THE NEW CONFIGURATION WE CAN GET A MONITOR ON THAT. DURING THE WEEK WE DID GOOD IN TERMS OF ACCOMMODATING THE TRAFFIC AND ON WE CAN WE'VE

BEEN OVERFLOWING ONTO THE ROAD. >> GOING FORWARD WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES LIKE THIS THAT COME UP AND WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT, I EXPECT FROM STAFF TO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION. YOU KNEW THIS WAS COMING UP AS AN AGENDA ITEM. THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO HAVE. ONE OF THE OPTIONS HERE IS TO LEAVE AS IS. IF THERE'S NOT A TRAFFIC ISSUE RIGHT NOW THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW.

FROM WHAT YOU SAID IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE A CLEAR

UNDERSTANDING OF THAT. >> I WOULD SEND THE WEEKENDS WHERE MAXING OUT MY BEEN THERE UP THERE COUPLE OF WEEKENDS TO SEE HOW IT'S WORKING. TRAFFIC COUNT TELLS US WHAT TO PUT OUT BUT IT DOESN'T TELL YOU THE MAX LOAD LIKE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY I THINK WE ARE OKAY RIGHT NOW.

THE WEATHER IS GOOD ON THE WEEKEND AND WE WILL MAX OUT THAT AND WE'VE KIND OF OVERFLOWED THE RIGHT-OF-WAY

ALONG THE STREET. >> CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT?

>> IN TERMS OF Ã> AS FAR AS AMENDING AND PUTTING PARKING ON

PONTE VEDRE BLVD. >> YEAH.

OBVIOUSLY WITH A RIGHT AWAY AND I'M NOT A TRAFFIC EXPERT HERE, BUT THERE'S CONCERNS WITH A RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S NOT TYPICALLY USED FOR PARKING. NOT HAVING CROSSWALKS FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO AS WELL WOULD BE A CONCERN.

OBVIOUSLY THE BEACH WALKOVER'S ARE THERE, AND RIGHT NOW THEY ARE MORE USED BY LOCAL RESIDENTS CAN WALK BECAUSE THERE'S NOT PARKING AVAILABLE SO I THINK ANYTIME YOU CREATE A I WOULD DEFER TO THE ROAD AND HIGHWAY FOLKS TO WEIGH IN ON EXACTLY ANY CONCERNS AND SIGNAGE WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE

THAT. >> SPEAKER: DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON STAFF THAT CAN ANSWER THAT FOR PUBLIC SPACE SAFETY?

>> WE DO.> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING. >> DUANE KENT COUNTY ENGINEER.

I WOULD AGREE WITH DOUG. THERE COULD BE A SAFETY ISSUE ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. IT IS WELL USED BY PEDESTRIANS.

THERE IS A RELATIVELY HIGH TRAFFIC LOAD.

ADDED TO THAT, THE LANDSCAPING, THE NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS THERE.

THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SAFETY ISSUES WITH PARKING ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. THAT SAID, IF YOU WERE TO GIVE US DIRECTION, WE COULD LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES TO CONFIGURATIONS

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>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >>

>> MR. DEAN: PRESENTATION, YOU HAD AN OVERHEAD SHOWING THE POTENTIAL COST OF 10 PARKING LOT FOR DECEMBER AND JANUARY OF $4000.

>> UP TO $4000. >> IS THAT PERMANENT OR

CUMULATIVE? >> THAT'S DECEMBER AND JANUARY.

>> MY QUESTION IS, I HAVE LOOKED AT AND DISCUSSED THIS WITH OTHER STAFF, AND I GOT A NUMBER THAT'S AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE HIGHER THAN 4000. SO BEFORE WE TAKE ANY ACTION ON THIS, IF WE GO IN THAT DIRECTION I WOULD LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THE COST ESTIMATE IS FOR USING THE GUANO

LOT. >> AND THIS IS JUST IGNORED LOT. IT'S NOT ALL OF THE LOTS? PARTICULAR IT'S JUST THE NORTH WALKOVER LOT.

>> I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION AS TO HOW MUCH TAX MONEY WE WOULD BE SPENDING IF WE GO THAT ROUTE BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS AND THERE'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DIVERGENCE.

>> SPEAKER: YES SIR. I'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH A FRIEND'S REP WHO COLLECTS THOSE FEES SO THIS IS THE NORTH LOT WE HAVE CONFIRMED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY.

WE DID AN AVERAGE RATE OVER PROBABLY THE BEST TWO YEARS AT THE HIGHER END OF THE REVENUE SOURCES.

SO WE KIND OF CONFIRMED AND CAME OUT IF I RECALL ABOUT $108 PER DAY. SO WE WERE GOING MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FOR ABOUT 35 DAYS FOR THOSE TWO MONTHS.

YOU GET A LITTLE UNDER $4000. WE'VE BEEN TALKING DIRECTLY WITH THEM IN TERMS OF WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE FOR THEM.

>> SPEAKER: SECONDLY, A QUICK ONE BECAUSE IT JUST SORT OF STUCK IN MY MIND. ON THE COUNCIL ON AGING BUS SHUTTLE THE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY THE LOT IS CLOSED ONLY IN THE MORNING BUT IT'S OPEN IN THE AFTERNOON?

>> CORRECT >> SO EVEN THOUGH THE PARKING LOT OPENED AT 1130 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, THERE MAY BE BEACHGOERS WHO TOOK THE SHUTTLE AT 8:00 A.M. AND THEY STAY UNTIL 3:00 AND NEED TO BE SHUTTLED BACK.

SO IT'S $300 FOR ALL DAY. NOT JUST THE MORNING?

>> YES, SIR. THE CURRENT RATE ÃAND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE LENGTH OF TIME.

THE CURRENT RATE WHEN WE RUN THAT SHUTTLE ON THE HOLIDAY WEEKENDS WERE EIGHT HOURS IS $320.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH PAST THE 11:00 HOUR DO PWE NEED TO RUN THAT SHUTTLE. SO WE ARE TRYING TO GET EXACT NUMBERS FROM THE COA NOW. WE THINK IT SHOULD BE RIGHT

AROUND THAT 300 TO 320 MARK. >> THANK YOU.

THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WE WILL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

WE HAVE TWO MICROPHONES. >> I AM JOHN I LIVE AT 101 OVERLOOK DOCTOR IN PONTE VEDRE BEACH.

CURRENTLY I AM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE MISCIBLE SERVICE DISTRICT IN PONTE VEDRE BEACH. MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, SINCE THE INCEPTION THEY HAVE PROVIDED SUPPLEMENTAL SERVICES RESIDENTS LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY.HE SERVICES FOCUS ON SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS AND ARE PAID BY EACH RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. FOR FIVE DEPUTIES THAT CONTROL WITHIN THE MSD ALSO CONTRACTING WITH THE REFUGE COMPANY FOR ADDITIONAL TRASH PICKUP PAYING FOR STREET LIGHTING AND FOR SIDEWALKS FOR SOME OF THE ENHANCEMENTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. FOR THE PAST 37 YEARS THE MSD HAS ENJOYED GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND WE WISH TO CONTINUE THAT.

PONTE VEDRE BLVD. IS A NARROW ROAD.

IT'S PROBABLY THE NARROWEST ROAD ANYWHERE IN THE MSD AND EACH OF YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY TRAVELED THE ROADWAY AND CAN SEE THE MANY HOUSES THAT ARE BEING REBUILT AND REMODELED ON A DAILY BASIS FOR ELEMENTARY MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL BUSES TRAVEL THAT ROAD REGULARLY IN THE MORNINGS, ESPECIALLY.

TO PICK UP CHILDREN. HUNDREDS OF WALKERS AND JOGGERS USE IT AND JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY RIDES THEIR BIKES UP AND DOWN THE STREET AS WELL. HOWEVER LATELY WITH THE INCREASING TRAFFIC ON A1A, WE HAVE TO ASK THE SHERIFF TO KEEP A PRESENCE IN THE MORNING AND EVENINGS AS TRAFFIC SOME BIRDS

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IT'S NOT A POTENTIAL. IT'S JUST ASKING FOR ONE.

HAVING SOMEONE EXIT THE CAR AND STEP INTO THE ROADWAY, ROADWAY WHERE RESIDENTS RECENTLY COLLECTED OVER $300,000 TO BUILD SIDEWALKS TO KEEP PEOPLE OFF THE ROADWAY'S WAS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.

12 YEARS AGO THE MSD WAS INVOLVED IN THE STUDY ALONG ST.

JOHNS COUNTY TO STUDY PARKING ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS. THE CURRENT PARKING ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED FOR THAT REASON. THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS AND PEDESTRIANS. CHANGING ANYTHING IN THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE A MISTAKE. THERE ARE MUCH BETTER OPTIONS.

THE LOTS AT GUANO ARE CLOSER AND SOLANA AND CORONA THEY HAVE MARKED SPOTS AND LIGHTED CROSS LANES ARE AVAILABLE.

WE SHOULD LOOK INTO WORKING WITH THEM TO OPEN UP SOME OF THESE. IT'S ONLY A TEMPORARY SOLUTION, DISCLOSURE AND ITS THROUGH RESPONSE TO A NATIONAL DISASTER. PROVIDING SAFETY IS THE PARAMOUNT OF OUR CHARTER WITH THE STATE.

THE MSD DEPUTIES PATROL AND KEEP MY COURSE A LOT SAFER EVERY DAY AND THE DEPUTIES ALWAYS HAVE AND ARE PAID BY THE MSD FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL. KEEP THE MSD SAFE AND PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE IT. ON A CLOSING NOTE, PLEASE, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND MUNICIPAL SERVICES DISTRICT OF PONTE VEDRE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO OPPOSE ANY PARKING ALONG THE PONTE VEDRE BLVD. AND WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU NOT PERMIT THAT. THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, SIR. >> SPEAKER: YES MA'AM.

>> MEGAN MCKINLEY 528 GLUTEAL DOCTOR, PONTE VEDRE BEACH.

I DO HAVE A BACKGROUND IN CIVIL ENGINEER AND DID WORK IN ROADWAY DESIGN IN CALIFORNIA. I WOULD RECOMMEND TO THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THE SAFEST OPTION FOR INTERIM PARKING IS THE GTM NORTH PARKING LOT FOR TWO REASONS.

IT CURRENTLY HAS PAVED, MARKED PARKING SPACES AND A MARKED CROSSWALK TO THE BEACH. THE LEAST SAFE OPTION IS PARKING ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN PONTE VEDRE BLVD. FOR SEVERAL REASONS. FIRST THE CURRENT TRAFFIC FLOW AND CONGESTION ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

WE HAVE MANY LAWN SERVICE VEHICLES WHICH PARKED ON THE STREET. WE ALSO HAVE DELIVERY TRUCKS, AMAZON, UPS, FEDEX WHICH PARKED ON THE STREET.

WE ALSO HAVE REPAIR SERVICE VEHICLES, PLUMBERS, ELECTRICIANS, ETC. THAT PARK ON THE STREET.

ADDITIONALLY AS OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED WE HAVE INCREASED VOLUME OF TRAFFIC FROM CARS DIVERTING FROM A1A DURING MORNING RUSH HOUR TO AVOID THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS ON A1A.

WE ALSO HAVE NINE ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITES OF HOMES ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. FOUR OF THESE ARE ADJACENT TO BEACH BALL COVERS. THE EXISTING CROSSWALK ON THE WEST SIDE ELIMINATES USING THE WEST SIDE.

ALSO, THE NEW FEMA REGULATIONS REQUIRE THAT HOUSES BUILT ON THE BEACH HAVE A HIGHER BASE ELEVATION OF ADDITIONAL FOUR FEET FROM WHAT WAS HISTORICAL. THIS HAS CREATED ADDITIONAL SLOPING OF THE GRADE WHERE YOU WOULD WANT PEOPLE TO PARK ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BUT LEAVES AN ADDITIONAL 10 PERCENT.

THOSE CARS THAT WOULD BE PARKING ON THE EAST SIDE WOULD BE PARKING PARALLEL. THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE DRIVER TO EXIT, OPEN THE DOOR INTO THE TRAFFIC COMING NORTHBOUND.

AND IF THEY ARE ON A SLOPE IT BECOMES EVEN MORE HAZARDOUS TO EXIT THE HOME. AS OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED PARKED CARS OBSTRUCTING LINE OF SIGHT FOR RESIDENTS EXITING THEIR DRIVEWAYS, AND LASTLY, THE LAW COVERS THAT ARE IN EXISTENCE ARE NOT ALL ADA COMPLIANT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: I AM DAWN AND I LIVE AT 546 PONTE VEDRE BLVD. WHICH IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BOULEVARD AND ACROSS FROM THE SUBJECT BEACH ACCESS.

FIRST OF ALL, MR. WALKER, I DRIVE BY MY COURSE DURING THE WEEK AND IT IS NOT FULL DURING THE WEEK.

IT IS ON THE WEEKENDS, AND IT HAS BEEN ON THE WEEKENDS FOREVER. IT'S NOT JUST THIS YEAR OR LAST YEAR. I HAVE LIVED ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. FOR 14 YEARS AND THAT HAS BEEN A BUSY SPOT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I GUESS HAS TO BE DEALT WITH DOWN THE LINE.

ALSO, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT WHAT HE SAID THE PONTE VEDRE BLVD. RIGHT AWAY IS 66 FEET WIDE.

PONTE VEDRE BLVD. ITSELF THE PAVED PORTION IS 19 FEET WIDE. SO AS WAS SAID PREVIOUSLY, IT IS ONE OF THE SMALLER STREETS GOING TO THE BOULEVARD.

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THE ISSUE OF PARKING ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. AND ACCESS TO THE BEACH WAS BEACHES WERE LITIGATED BY MULTIPLE PARTIES FOREVER. IT WAS FINALLY SETTLED.

THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW HOMES FLOURISHED IN THE VALUES ROSE AS MORE AND MORE HOMES WERE REMOVED AND NEW HIGH IN CONSTRUCTION WAS ADDED. ALONG WITH THIS HIGHER VALUATION CAME HIGHER TAXES TO THE COUNTY AND A SHOWCASE COMMUNITY ALONG WITH IT. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE FAIL TO RECOGNIZE WHAT WE SAY SHOWCASE COMMUNITY, IT ADDRESSES PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING FROM ALL DIFFERENT AREAS TO OPEN BUSINESS OR BE TRANSFERRED FOR BUSINESS.

THERE'S A LOT OF EXECUTIVES AND THE CHAIRMAN OF THE UNITED AIRLINES LIVES ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. YET HE WORKS IN CHICAGO.

AND WE HAD MANY OTHER PEOPLE. I KNOW I HAVE A FRIEND THAT CAME DOWN TO DO WORK WITH CSX. HE LOCATED IN PONTE VEDRE BECAUSE HE LIKED THE COMMUNITY, SOLID, AND I THINK HE'S INCLINED TO BRING MORE JOBS TO THIS AREA.

SO KEEPING THIS COMMUNITY AND MAINTAINING THE STATUS THAT IS ACHIEVED IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING NOT ONLY TO THE CURRENT RESIDENCE, BUT I THINK TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE TO ATTRACT BUSINESS AND TO MAINTAIN THAT GENERAL ATTRACTION.

TO ME, IT'S A BIG QUESTION AS TO WHY OPEN THIS WHOLE CAN OF WORMS FOR A TEMPORARY THING THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A COUPLE OF MONTHS. YOU ALL KNOW THIS WILL BE LITIGATED IF PEOPLE START GETTING CARS PARKED ON THE LAWN.T'S GOING TO COST THE COUNTY A HELL OF A LOT MORE THAN $4000 TO TRY AND BATTLE THIS.

AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THERE GOING TO SAY THIS IS OUR RIGHT TO DO THIS AND IS GOING TO BECOME A DISPUTE THAT NOT ONLY IS COSTLY BUT WILL BE DISRUPTED TO THE COMMUNITY.

THE HOMES IN THE SUBJECT AREA OF SERVICE BY HOME MAINTENANCE COMPANIES LANDSCAPERS, FEDEX, UPS, AMAZON, THE POSTAL SERVICE WHO CRAWLS ALONG AT A SNAIL PACE TO DELIVER AND BLOCKS THE LAND THEY ARE CURRENTLY SERVICING.

WHEN POSTAL SERVICE IS DELIVERING, UPS, THERE'S CARS BACKED UP BEHIND BLOCKING VISION.

I KNOW SOMETIMES COMING OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY, IT'S TAKEN ME MINUTES TO GET OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY OUT ON THE ROAD.

BECAUSE OF THESE BLOCKAGES THESE ALSO OCCURRED DURING BUSY TRAFFIC PERIODS. I HAVE LIMITED TIME SO I WILL HIT A COUPLE OF OTHER POINTS. I THINK THAT ANOTHER ISSUE IS IF A WORKER IS INJURED ON SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY AND THEY SEE THE HOMEOWNER IS THE COUNTY PREPARED TO PROTECT OR DEFEND THAT HOMEOWNER? IF THE PROPERTY IS DAMAGED IRRIGATION, LANDSCAPING, THINGS LIKE THAT, WHO'S GOING TO PAY AND HIS GOING TO COVER THAT? FINALLY I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A POINT ALONG A1A AND SELL PONTE VEDRE BEACH AND SERENADA RESIDENTS KNEW OF THE BEACH EROSION Ã

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> I'M JUST SAYING IT'S NOT GOING TO COST YOU ANYTHING TO LEAVE US ALONE.

>> I AM CARLTON RYDER I NEED CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF THE PONTE VEDRE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AND IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS MORNING. WHEN WE FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS FROM THE SIGNS POSTED AT THE BEACH ACCESS EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A HOLIDAY WEEKEND PLUS PRODUCT HEARING.

I WON'T GO INTO THAT BUT WE HAVE THAT FEEDBACK FOR YOU.

THE SORT OF HEADLINE FOR THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT 97 PERCENT OF THE 227 RESPONDENTS VOTED IN OPPOSITION TEMPORARY PARKING ALONG PONTE VEDRE BLVD. THAT'S A 50 PERCENT RESPONSE RATE OR A HOLIDAY WEEKEND WHICH WE HAVE RARELY SEEN.

SOME OTHER DATA 70 PERCENT OPPOSE THE SHUTTLE SERVICE 96 PERCENT OPPOSE THE CHANGING THE ORDINANCE THAT IS IN PLACE.

AN 89 PERCENT RECOMMEND GO ON IT AS AN ALTERNATIVE.

THERE ARE MANY OTHER COMMENTS WE CAN MAKE THE DATA AVAILABLE TO YOU FOR THE RECORD. OUR BOARD MET THIS WEEKEND AND DEVELOPED A RESOLUTION WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO READ.

IT'S FREE. THE BOARD OF THE PONTE VEDRE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AS OPPOSED TO ALLOWING TEMPORARY PARKING ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY STATE ROAD TO A 3 PONTE VEDRE

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PARKING LOT ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. WOULD SERIOUSLY ENDANGER THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE OF THE PUBLIC.

THIS IS ALREADY VERY DANGEROUS ROADWAY WITH CHILDREN, PEDESTRIANS, CYCLISTS, AUTOMOBILES DOING THEIR BEST TO NAVIGATE THE TRAFFIC AND THE MANY SERVICE VEHICLES AS MENTIONED. PARKED ON THE ROAD OR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. WHILE THE SITUATION AT MY COURSE IS UNFORTUNATE, IT WOULD NOT RESOLVE ÃSHOULD NOT RESULT IN CREATING A WORSE SITUATION WHICH WOULD RESULT IN A TRAGIC ACCIDENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, SIR. >> IM DEBBIE, DEBBIE RANT.

I'M GOING TO BE KIND OF SHORT BECAUSE I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYONE HAS SAID. I REALLY COULDN'T IMAGINE SITTING ON THE FRONT PORCH WATCHING ALL THIS HAPPEN.

I SEE KIDS AND ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE WALKING DOGS ALONG THE SIDEWALK AND THEN TO HAVE CARS PARKED THERE WOULD BE SUPER DANGEROUS. MY SISTER WAS COMING DOWN THE BOULEVARD ONE EARLY EVENING AND A TRUCK WAS PARKED ON THE SIDE, A CONSTRUCTION TRUCK. HE DID NOT EVEN STOP.

HE DIDN'T STOP TO LOOK BEFORE HE OPENED HIS DOOR RIGHT INTO TRAFFIC. LUCKILY SHE SQUIRMED OUT OF HIS WAY OTHERWISE SHE WOULD HAVE HIT HIM OR HIS CAR OR SOMEONE COMING THE OTHER WAY. SO THAT WAS JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

SHE CAME TO MY HOUSE REALLY SHAKEN UP.

JUST GOING OUT TO GET MY MAIL, IT ÃYOU HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS AND YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR TRAFFIC TO STOP GOING BACK.

SO IN ADDITION TO WATCHING MY GRANDKIDS GO UP AND DOWN THE SIDEWALK, AND OTHER PEOPLE, I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE A HORRIBLE SAFETY ISSUE. AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE HAD FUNCTIONS, EVENTS, PARTIES AT OUR HOUSE, WE ARE REQUIRED TO HIRE A POLICE OFFICER TO MONITOR TRAFFIC, PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY AND WE DONE THAT EVERY TIME WITHOUT PROBLEMS. SO UNLESS IT'S GOING TO BE SUPERVISION WHILE THIS IS ALL GOING ON, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, SAFELY.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU.

>> YES MA'AM >> I AM TAMMY JONES I LIVE AT 311 PONTE VEDRE BLVD., WE ARE BUILDING NEXT DOOR AT 313 PONTE VEDRE BLVD. LIKE MANY OF THE RESIDENTS HERE, WE ARE REALLY STRONGLY OPPOSED TO MANY OF THESE OPTIONS, ESPECIALLY OPTION NUMBER FOR THE PROPOSAL TO LIFT THE CURRENT NO PARKING ORDINANCE AND ALSO OPTION NUMBER ONE TO BRING IN SHUTTLES TO PONTE VEDRE BEACH, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO 311 AND UP TO 545 PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

I HAVE 10 REASONS. THE FIRST IS THAT THERE MAY BE DOING ISSUE REGARDING THE TEMPORARY OF THE ARTICLE RIGHTS ON OUR FRONT LAWNS WITH EASEMENTS AND DRIVEWAYS AND BY DOING SO THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PAY JUST COMPENSATION, AND I SUGGEST IT WOULD NOT BE WORTH THE COST TO OUR COUNTY.

SECONDLY THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY HIGH IN THE PONTE VEDRE BEACH AREA NOT ONLY JUST MORNING TRAFFIC BUT PEOPLE BACKING OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS, LAWN MAINTENANCE VEHICLES BLOCKING THE ROAD AND CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES AND THE ADDED SEARCH WOULD CAUSE MAYHEM. THIRDLY THE SAFETY TO THE MANY CHILDREN WHO BITE ANDWALK TO CHRISTCHURCH.

I HAVE SEVEN CHILDREN FIVE OF WHICH I HOMESCHOOL AND ARE AT THE HOUSE AND IN THE DRIVEWAY ALL THE TIME AND SHE WOULD GO TO THE PRESCHOOL. AND I FEEL THE SAFETY TO THEM AND TO THE LOCAL PEDESTRIANS BIKERS AND JOGGERS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AND THAT WE SHOULD NOT RISK THE LIVES OF OUR COMMUNITY CITIZENS BY BLOCKING SIDEWALKS, SIDELINES FOR THOSE BACKING OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS AND I DO HAVE A REALLY BIG BLACK MAN. OR FOR THOSE CROSSING THE ROADS AND WE MUST CONSIDER THE PUBLIC WELFARE.

FOURTHLY, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INCREASED PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC TOO OLD PONTE VEDRE WHICH WILL NEGATIVELY AFFECT OUR SEA TURTLE POPULATION, AND I WAS A SPONSOR AND YOU CAN SEE HOW SOME OF THOSE AREAS WOULD BE AFFECTED.

THE INCREASED TRAFFIC WILL BRING INCREASED LETTER, DOCUMENTS, AND OVERFLOWING GARBAGE WHICH WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR TO MAINTAIN A DEVALUED BEACH.

WILL BRING ADDED CRIME, VIOLENCE AND VANDALISM.

SEVEN THE INCREASE IN PUBLIC TRAFFIC TOO OLD PONTE VEDRE WILL BRING ADDED NOISE AND AIR POLLUTION DEVALUING OUR BEACH AND THE CHANGING CULTURE PONTE VEDRE BEACH MAKING IT EASILY ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC WILL LOWER THE PROPERTY VALUES OF THOSE WHO PAID A PREMIUM TO BE WITHIN WALKING OR BIKING DISTANCE AND WILL MAKE THE PROPERTY VALUES MORE AKIN TO NEIGHBORING BEACHES. NIGHT THE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES ARE GOING TO BE SO DIFFICULT AND EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN, AND

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PROPERTY VALUES >> THANK YOU, MA'AM

>> I LIVE AT 546 LAKE RD. AND I AM ALSO AN MST TRUSTEE.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD MY VOICE TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN, AND I WOULD ADD MY VOICE IN OPPOSITION TO TEMPORARY PARKING ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. FOR SEVERAL REASONS. MOST IMPORTANTLY SAFETY.

AND THERE ARE OTHER VERY GOOD OPTIONS FOR ACCESS TO THE BEACH. AND CURRENTLY THE ONE THAT SEEMS THE BEST AND IT'S SAVED AND IT'S AVAILABLE AND IT WOULD NOT BE VERY COSTLY IS THE NORTH GUANO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> GOOD MORNING CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS FRANCIS LARGEN I LIVE AT 551 RUTILE DRIVE AND PONTE VEDRE BEACH.

I JUST WANTED TO FIRST RECOGNIZE THE OFFICER THAT GAVE US THE BLESSING THIS MORNING BEFORE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I THOUGHT HE DID A GREAT JOB WITH THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JUST WANTED TO ALSO ADD MY VOICE.

I COME HERE THIS MORNING AS A CITIZEN BUT ALSO AS A FATHER.

I AM AN OLD GUY WITH YOUNG PKIDS.

I HAVE THREE YOUNG BOYS AND I THINK THE PICTURE THAT THE GENTLEMAN PUT UP DURING HIS PRESENTATION OF THE SIDEWALK WITH THE TRUCKS ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. ACTUALLY SPEAKS A THOUSAND WORDS IN TERMS OF THE CURRENT SITUATION, AND I JUST SAY THAT I TELL MY KIDS EVERY DAY THAT MY MOST IMPORTANT JOB IS TO LOVE THEM AND KEEP THEM SAFE.

AND EVEN TODAY WITH ALL OF THE AFOREMENTIONED CONSTRUCTION AND DELIVERY TRUCKS AND ALL OF THE THROUGH TRAFFIC ON PONTE VEDRE BOULEVARD TODAY, MY HEART IS IN MY THROAT WHEN I'M WRITING MY BIKES WITH MY BOYS ON THE ROAD TODAY BECAUSE OF ALL OF THAT CONGESTION. I CAN ONLY ÃI CAN ONLY FEAR THAT IF WE CHANGE THESE REGULATIONS AND ALLOW ADDITIONAL PARKING ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

WITH ALL OF THE PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT THAT I WOULD BE IN JEOPARDY OF KEEPING MY PROMISE TO MY KIDS IN TERMS OF KEEPING THEM SAFE EVERY DAY. AND SO I ASK YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THAT WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS MATTER.HANK

YOU VERY MUCH. >> YES MA'AM

>> ALAINA 315 PONTE VEDRE BLVD. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO COMMISSIONER DEAN COSMIC POINT WHEN HE WAS ASKING FOR THE TENTATIVE COST FOR THE PARKING AT GUANO.

NOBODY DISCUSSED WITH THE TENANTS HAVE COST OF REDOING WHAT THE PUBLIC WORKS AND THE PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT IF YOU GIVE THEM DIRECTION TO IMPLEMENT PARKING ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

WHAT'S THE COST OF THAT? HAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK FOR IS TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF THAT. YOU'RE TALKING DECEMBER AND JANUARY, THAT'S A LONG TERM COST VERSUS PICKING UP PARKING LOTS ALREADY AS ONE OF THE PERSON POINTED OUT GOT STRIPED PARKING, PARKING LOTS, A PUBLIC ACCESS THAT HAS LIGHTS THAT ALLOW PEOPLE TO CROSS THE BOULEVARD.

SO I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION.

>> THANK YOU. BRAD WESTER 71 SAN JUAN DOCTOR I DON'T LIVE EXACTLY ON THE BOULEVARD BUT THE ONE THING THAT SEPARATES ME AS A STRIP OF GOLF COURSE SO I'M ABOUT AS CLOSE AS YOU GET ON THE VICE CHAIR OF THE MUNICIPAL DISTRICT AND I CONCUR WITH WHAT THEY SAID INCLUDING OUR CHAIRMAN.

BUT I WANTED TO BRING UP ONE THING THAT NOBODY HAS BROUGHT UP. AND THAT'S STORMWATER.

JUST TO PUT IT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, IF WE ALLOW PARKING IF YOU CHANGE YOUR ORDINANCE TO ALLOW TEMPORARY PARKING IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HARD TO TAKE THAT AWAY BECAUSE ONCE PEOPLE PARKED THERE IT BECOMES PERMANENT IN THEIR MIND AND AS THEY SPREAD THE WORD THAT PARKING IS AVAILABLE, IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HARD TO REMOVE THAT TEMPORARY MIND BLOCK, IF YOU WILL, UNLESS YOU HAVE CONSTANT POLICE ENFORCEMENT AND SIGNAGE.HE OTHER THING IS STORMWATER.

I GUARANTEE YOU THEY PARKED THEIR WANTS AND THEY ARE AT THE BEACH AND WE HAVE A RAIN EVENT THAT IS THE LAST TIME THEY WILL EVER PARKED THERE. PONTE VEDRE BLVD. BECOMES A LAKE THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME DURING RAIN EVENTS.T DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE A LOT OF RAIN BUT IF YOU DRIVE DOWN IT IT BECOMES A NARROW STRIP IN THE CENTERLINE THAT IS THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN ACTUALLY DRIVE. THE SIDEWALKS, THE FRONT YARDS, YOU ARE IN A DATA BUT THE STORMWATER RUNOFF THAT DOES NOT DRAIN WELL AT ALL. WE HAVE HAD MANY CASES WHERE CARS HAVE STALLED OUT AND PLEASE PUT UP SIGNS TO TURNAROUND VEHICLES ON THE BOULEVARD.

SO I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE FOR PEOPLE LOADING OR UNLOADING THEIR TRUCKS AS THEIR CARS SITTING IN

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SO THAT IS AN INHERENT DANGER AS WELL AS THE NORMAL TRAFFIC FLOW. BUT STORMWATER IS SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT UP BUT I THINK IT'S A REALLY VALID AND A STRONG CONCERN THE PLACEMENT OF US AS WE OPPOSE THE PARKING REGULATION ORDINANCE CHANGE. THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR? >> MY NAME IS JOE WALKER.

I LIVE AT 323 PONTE VEDRE BLVD. I HAVE OWNED THE HOUSE FOR 35 YEARS. I HAVE AN ACCESS WAY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MY HOUSE. MY NEIGHBOR AND I INVESTED IN THE ÃPAID FOR HALF THE PAVERS TO PUT IN A BRISK WALK UP TO THE BRIDGE. SO OUR NEIGHBORS COULD CROSS THAT AND SO PEOPLE ON BICYCLES COULD GET TO THAT BEACH.

BUT WE DIDN'T REALLY DO THAT TO PUT PEOPLE IN OUR FRONT YARD.

NEITHER I NOR ANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT LIVED THERE HAVE EVER CHANCED ON KEEPING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY CUT, SO 4 AT LEAST MY 35 YEARS I HAVE BEEN PAYING TO KEEP THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PROPERLY MAINTAINED AND I KNOW ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE TOO.

THIS IS ÃHAS ALLOWED THE WHOLE BEACH AREA TO BE A NICE, QUIET, WELL-KEPT SPOT IN THE VALUE OF HOUSES HAS GONE UP AT LEAST 10 FOLD SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE. NEIGHBORS AROUND ME, I GUESS AT LEAST HALF THE HOUSES AROUND ME, THE OLD BEACH HOUSES HAVE BEEN TORN DOWN AND REPLACED WITH GREAT BIG MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOUSES. IN GENERAL, I THINK KEEPING THE LAWNS THE WAY THEY ARE AND KEEPING THE BEACH THE WAY IT IS IS THE WAY TO CONTINUE. IF YOU DO THIS TEMPORARILY FOR TWO MONTHS, FROM THEN ON PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER DON'T BUY THAT HOUSE BECAUSE THERE ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE PARKING IN YOUR YARD. AND ON THAT BASIS, I WOULD SAY LET'S KEEP THE PONTE VEDRE BLVD. THE WAY IT IS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> I AM JOHN WATSON. I LIVE AT 1102 SPINNAKER'S REACH DRIVE A BLOCK OFF OF PONTE VEDRE BLVD. AND I SPEAK FOR MY THREE CHILDREN WHO LIVE AT 505 PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

AND I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR SOME 20 OR 30 YEARS.

THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THE TRAFFIC CONTINUES TO INCREASE AND IT BECOMES MORE DIFFICULT TO GET AROUND AND BE SAFE AND MOVE AROUND EITHER BY CAR OR BY WALK OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

ANYBODY CAN GO OFF OF PONTE VEDRE BLVD. IN THE MORNINGS AND SEE THE TRUCKS PARKED ALONG NOT ON THE SIDE BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND.

SO THIS BECOMES A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION AS IT IS NOW, MUCH LESS FOR THROWING THIS OTHER THING ON TOP OF IT.

I ENDORSE EVERYTHING BE PEOPLE HAVE SAID THIS MORNING ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THAT IT HAS CAUSED AND I ASKED THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THOSE VERY SERIOUSLY. I THINK IT WILL BE VERY DANGEROUS FOR ALL OF US TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN.

THANK YOU.>> GOOD MORNING. I AM LESLIE WEED.

MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE ON 412 PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

WE HAVE LIVED IN PONTE VEDRE FOR 31 YEARS.

WE MOVED TO 412 PONTE VEDRE BLVD. 20 YEARS AGO.

WHEN WE FIRST MOVED IN, MY CHILDREN WERE LEARNING HOW TO RIDE THEIR BIKES. SO I SAT THEM IN THE FRONT YARD AND I SAID CARLY, YOU COUNT 50 CARS AND HALEY, YOUR JOB IS TO COUNT HOW MANY FACES ARE FACING STRAIGHT AND WATCHING WHERE THEY ARE GOING. AND I THINK WE ARE LOOKING STRAIGHT AND EVERYBODY THAT DRIVES DOWN THAT BOULEVARD IS LOOKING AT THIS HOUSE, AND THIS HOUSE AND LOOK AT THAT HOUSE AND THEN THERE'S ALL OF THESE TRUCKS.

I HAVE A SPECIAL NEEDS DAUGHTER AND WE BOUGHT HER A BIG TRIKE.

SHE'S 21 NOW. SHE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO STOP IT.

WE HAVE TO BE AROUND HER WHEN SHE'S ON IT.

IT WOULD BE HIGHLY DANGEROUS FOR HER TO BE DODGING CARS AND PEOPLE SITTING ON THEIR COOLERS WAITING FOR THE SHUTTLE TO PICK THEM UP. I AGREE WITH EVERY POINT THAT PEOPLE HAVE MADE TODAY. I WAS GOING TO MAKE ALL OF CHILDREN WHO WERE RAISED HERE. AND IT'S DANGEROUS JUST FOR ANY OF US TO WALK UP AND DOWN THE BOULEVARD.

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IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARD. I WAS ON THE BEACH NOT LONG AGO WERE SOMEBODY DROPPED OFF A BUNCH OF PEOPLE AND THEY WERE HANGING THEIR BACKPACKS ON THE LITTLE TURTLE STEAKS.

AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WERE KIND OF CAMPING OUT.

AND I HAD TO GO OVER AND SAY NO, THIS IS AN ENDANGERED AREA.

I THINK WE WOULD SEE A LOT MORE OF THAT.

AND MY THINGS ARE SAFETY FOR OUR CHILDREN.HIS IS A NICE QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS PROBLEM SHOULD NOT BE PUT ON THE SHOULDERS OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED HEAR WHO PUT SO MUCH MONEY INTO MAKING THIS COMMUNITY BEAUTIFUL AND QUIET WHEN WE HAVE A WONDERFUL OPTION MUCH CLOSER IN GUANO.

AND NOW WE ARE THE THOROUGHFARE.

IT TAKES ME SEVERAL MINUTES TO GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY IN THE MORNINGS AND AFTERNOONS. I FEEL BAD FOR ANYBODY WHO HAS TO BACK OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY. IT REALLY IS A SAFETY ISSUE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME.

>> SIR, IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE LINE UP HERE SO WE CAN MOVE QUICKLY. GO AHEAD

>> I AM TIM ELLIS I LIVE AT 332 PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 27 YEARS.

I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO PICK UP ON WHAT LESLIE SAID.

I AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYBODY HAS SAID SO FAR. A PARTICULAR ISSUE I'VE NOTICED IS THE PARSER TRUCKING ON THE ROAD COMING OUT OF DRIVEWAYS IS IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE TO HER RIGHT OR YOUR LEFT WHEN THERE'S A CAR THERE.

AND THAT MAKES IT INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS SITUATION WHICH WILL BE MAGNIFIED IF WE HAVE MORE CARS ON THE BOULEVARD, MORE TRAFFIC DOWN THERE. I THINK EVERYBODY IS AWARE FROM THE TRAFFIC WE HAVE AND PONTE VEDRE AND PEOPLE ARE ALREADY DISCOVERING THE PONTE VEDRE BLVD. AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO A1A DURING RUSH HOUR. AND THEY HAVE MORE PEOPLE DOWN THERE IS GOING TO MAKE IT MORE DANGEROUS.

SO I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE AND I URGE YOU NOT TO ALLOW ANY

PARKING ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE PLEASE COME UP AND LINE UP BEHIND THE MICROPHONES.

>> I AM KEEP LENDER AND I OWN A PROPERTY AND MY WIFE Ã

>> WE NEED YOU TO PUT YOUR ADDRESS ON THE RECORD.

>> OKAY. MY PARENTS OWNED THE PROPERTY IN THE 311 545 SECTION. SO WOULD BE 327 PONTE VEDRE BLVD. , 534 AND 535.

SO THREE PROPERTIES AND I WOULD JUST SAY THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS FOR THE GREAT COMMENTS MUCH MORE ELOQUENT THAN HE. I ACCEPT ALL OF THE COMMENTS AGAINST THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PARKING ON THE BOULEVARD.

I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TAKE JUST A MOMENT JUST TO PUT A LITTLE TEXTURE ON IT. LIKE A LOT OF YOU FORWARD AND SUCH I TRAVEL AND I SEE IN CALIFORNIA I HAVE PROPERTY IN CALIFORNIA MY SON GOES TO UCLA ENGINEERING THERE ARE WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT THAT. I WILL JUST SAY WE ARE ALL BLESSED, WE RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT'S DIFFERENT.

THIS PARTICULAR SLICE OF AMERICA.

PONTE VEDRE BEACH. I DATED MYSELF A LITTLE BIT WITH THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW. IT IS MADE VERY USA.

THE ANALYSIS TO GO THROUGH TRAFFIC ETC. ETC. IS NOT WHAT ONE WOULD APPLY TO OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY THAT ARE MORE POPULATION DENSE, ETC. SO AGAIN, STUDIES AND SUCH, IT ISN'T VEHICLE NUMBERS. IT IS TYPES OF HUMAN, ANIMAL, AND VEHICLE THAT WE NEED TO MEASURE, ETC., ETC. SO THERE ARE KIDS AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS GOING ON.

IT'S A COMPLEX TRAFFIC FLOW STUDY.

SO IF THERE'S ANY STUDY I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT TO BE DONE.

AND THE SITUATION IS ONE SQUARE IT'S JUST A BAD IDEA TO CREATE SAFETY ISSUES AND SO ON. WHEN I DRIVE OUT IN MY DRIVEWAY NOT THAT I WOULD DO THIS, BUT I WOULD PREFER TO GO 90 MILES AN HOUR ON THE HIGHWAY FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND A STRESSED PERSPECTIVE THAN THE TIME IT TAKES ME TO GET IN MY DRIVEWAY

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PEOPLE ENJOYING LIFE IN MAYBERRY, USA.

AND I LIKE IT THAT IT TAKES ME A MINUTE OR TWO, THREE MINUTES SOMETIMES JUST TO GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY IN THE MORNING BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING THE MAYBERRY, USA.

SO I WILL JUST SAY PLEASE KEEP IT THAT WAY AND THINK THROUGH IT THOROUGHLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TIME

AND ATTENTION. >> THUS, CIRCUIT

>> ED SLAVIN ST. AUGUSTINE BOX 3084.

I WANT TO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, FOR YOUR ADVOCACY ON THIS AND FOR STANDING UP TO MIKE WANCHECK.

THE REASON THIS DISCUSSION IS OCCURRING IS THAT HE DISOBEYED THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND HE'S FIRED AND I'M GLAD YOU DID IT. NOW, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING OUR PARKING LOT BACK? HOW MUCH TIME ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? IS THERE INFORMATION IN ARIKA LAMA? THIS PRIVATE CONTRACTOR THAT

USING PUBLIC PROPERTY >> MR. DEAN: TWO MONTHS.

>> FOR TWO MONTHS I THINK PEOPLE CAN PUT UP WITH PARKING IN THE FRONT YARDS. THESE YARDS WERE HISTORICALLY GIVEN TO THEM THAT'S RIGHT AWAY WITHOUT ANY MONEY BEING PAID TO THE COUNTY, FREE, GRATIS O THE PEOPLE OF PONTE VEDRE.

ROSE KENNEDY 'S BIBLE VERSE, THE COUNTY WAS INVOLVED IN CIVIL LITIGATION OVER THE GIVEAWAY.

SURFRIDER FOUNDATION THERE WAS ULTIMATELY A SETTLEMENT.

HERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT SURFERS TO USE THE BEACH.

THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO DON'T THINK THE BEACH IS THE PRIVATE BEACH. IT'S NOT A PRIVATE BEACH.

AS A PUBLIC BEACH UNDER FLORIDA LAW AND WE HOPE ONE DAY WITH THE NATIONAL SEASHORE WE WILL HAVE MORE PARKING AND MORE PEOPLE ABLE TO USE WITH WE ARE GOING TO GET FEDERAL FUNDS TO IMPROVE HAPPY TO BRING THAT SAND TO WHERE IT OUGHT TO BE CAN'T BE SOMEBODY'S PRIVATE RESERVE FOR RICH GUYS.

LET UNITED AIRLINES CEO SOMEBODY MENTIONED, HE'S THE GUY THAT GOT SIGNED BY FDEP FOR ILLEGALLY HAVING THE BEACH SAND RECOURSE AND HE WAS FINED. CONSIDERABLY.

SEVERAL PEOPLE WERE IN PONTE VEDRE.

I DON'T BUY THE ARGUMENT THESE ARE PRIVATE BEACHES.

THIS IS A PUBLIC BEACH. A PUBLIC BEACH IS THERE AND PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO ACCESS THE BEACH AND REALLY, TWO MONTHS AND THEY ARE THINKING OH, MY GOD.

IT'S GOING TO REDUCE MY PROPERTY VALUES IS GOING TO BE 1/5 AMENDMENT CONDEMNATION ISSUE.

IT'S NOT AN EMINENT DOMAIN ISSUE.

IT'S A USE FOR THE PUBLIC OF PEOPLE TO BE AT THE BEACH AND I LIKE THE ALTERNATIVES, BUT I ALSO THINK COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, YOU ARE RIGHT. YOUR STAFF STILL HAS NOT DONE WHAT YOU ASKED FOR SO YOU NEED TO SEND THE BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, GET MORE STATISTICS AND DON'T MAKE ANY DECISIONS TODAY.

IN THE MEANTIME LET ME COUNSEL THE PEOPLE FROM PONTE VEDRE IN THE WORDS OF THE MUSICAL OKLAHOMA, THE FARMERS AND RANCHERS SHOULD BE FRIENDS. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THESE HOUSES SHOULD BE HATING ON OUR VISITORS OR OUR SERVERS OR OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE LESS FORTUNATE THAN THEM. I MEAN, THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THE TONE OF SOME OF THOSE ARGUMENTS THAT WE JUST HEARD THAT WERE JUST A LITTLE BIT SNOOTY, AND FRANKLY, I THINK BENEATH THE DIGNITY OF THE PEOPLE.

YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. MORE DATA AND THANK YOU FOR FIRING MR. WANCHECK. I WISH YOU COULD DO IT AGAIN

WILL APPEAR. >> SPEAKER: YES, CIRCUIT

>> ANTONIO 326 PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD TO GO BACK TO PRIOR COMMENTS AND THINK ABOUT THE COMMENTS OF SAFETY.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS AN ISSUE OF.

IT'S SAFETY FOR THE CHILDREN, SAFETY FOR THE BIKERS, SAFETY FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO USE PONTE VEDRE BLVD. OTHER THAN THE CARS, AND IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH WHO HAS AND WHO HAS NOT. IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH LITTLE CHILDREN BEING ABLE TO RIDE THEIR BICYCLES IN A SAFE PLACE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> SPEAKER: INCORPORATED YOU, SIR.

ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE COME FORWARD TO BOTH

MICROPHONES. >> SPEAKER: I AM PETER.

I LIVE AT 340 PONTE VEDRE BLVD. WITH MY WIFE AND THREE CHILDREN. WE HAVE LIVED THERE SINCE 2010 AND WE HAVE WATCHED THE TRAFFIC JUST GET CRAZY OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS. IT'S CLEAR THAT PEOPLE COME DOWN NOCATEE PARKWAY. THIS IS HAPPENING PRIMARILY DURING THE WEEK. BUT THERE'S PROPOSED SHUTTLE INDOOR PARKING, SO THE STREET IS ALREADY EXTREMELY CONGESTED

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>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS ELIZABETH I AM HIS WIFE AND I LIVE AT 340 PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

. MY VOICE IS CRACKING.

EXCUSE ME. THIS IS NOT ABOUT OR HAVE NOT.

I AM ONE OF SIX KIDS THAT GREW UP ON THE BEACH AND I CAME FROM NOTHING. I OWNED A SMALL BUSINESS IN THIS TOWN FOR EIGHT YEARS. WE RAISED THREE KIDS ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. AND THEY GO TO PUBLIC SCHOOL.

WE EARN A PAYCHECK. SO PLEASE DISREGARD THE COMMENT ABOUT THAT WE ARE ALL COME FROM GENERATIONAL WEALTH.

THAT IS NOT THE CASE. WE BOUGHT AND KEEP UP THE AREA.

THEY TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN A POSITION AND WE RAISED GREAT CHILI MONEY FOR THIS FOR THE SCHOOLS PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

OUR THREE BABIES GREW UP IN PONTE VEDRE BLVD. AND NOW THEY ARE AT PONTE VEDRE HIGH SCHOOL. WE ARE AVERAGE HARD-WORKING PEOPLE BLOCK CASE TEMPERATURE FOR TEMPORARY PARKING ON AN ALREADY UNSAFE AND HIGHLY USED SINCE NOCATEE AND A1A TRAFFIC STUDIES HAVE PROVEN THE TRAFFIC IS UP 38 PERCENT YEAR OVER YEAR ON A1A DOESN'T ADD UP. SO I AM STRONGLY OPPOSED TO SHUTTLING PEOPLE AND OR PARKING ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY HARD WORK AND MY HUSBAND'S HARD WORK ABILITY TO OWN THE PROPERTY IN THAT AREA.

THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME ON THIS AGENDA

ITEM? >> SPEAKER: WITH PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSED WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD.

TAKING COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION. >> MR. BLOCKER: I AM JUST GOING TO BE VERY BRIEF ABOUT THIS AND I WANT TO ADDRESS THIS TO STAFF. I HAVE SERIOUS SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS AS FAR AS AMENDING THE ORDINANCE I THINK THAT'S CONCERNING. WE HAD OTHER REASONS AS WELL.

SAFETY SHOULD BE OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

I AM NOT CLEAR ON THE TRAFFIC OF WHY WE WOULD NEED TO AMEND JUST. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A CLEAR INDICATION ON THE TRAFFIC COUNT.

WHAT I HEARD FROM RESIDENTS IS JUST LIKE ANY OTHER TIME OF YEAR THE PUBLIC IS CLEARLY NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS.

I'M GLAD WE TOOK THE TIME AND HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON PUT OUT PUBLIC NOTICE AND GET THE PUBLIC IS AFFECTED BY THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SOLVE ONE PROBLEM BY CREATING ANOTHER PROBLEM WHICH POTENTIALLY IS GOING TO CREATE ISSUES FOR A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS WHICH I BELIEVE AMENDING THIS ORDINANCE IS GOING TO DO.

I DON'T THINK AMENDING THIS ORDINANCE IS THE BEST OPTION.

WE ARE BETTER OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US.

INCLUDING LOOKING AT GUANA BEACH SO IF YOU WILL ALLOW IT ASK THE BOARD OR I WOULD MOVE AND ASKED THE BOARD TO DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK AT EXPLORE SOME ALTERNATE PARKING AT THE GUANA BEACH ACCESS POINT. AS COMMISSIONER DEAN POINTED OUT, WE HAVE SOME COST MAYBE UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THAT.

I THINK MR. PATEL WEIGHED IN WITH SOME DETAILS ON THAT, BUT I DO NOT THINK TAMENDING THE ORDINANCE IS THE RIGHT STEP.

I'VE NOT HEARD A GOOD ARGUMENT WHY WE NEED TO DO THAT.

SO IF WE CAN, IF THE CHAIR WILL ALLOW IF WE DO THIS PATRICK JUST WASHED WALKED AWAY BUT JOSH WE NEED TO DO THAT THROUGH

MOTION FOR >> I WAS JUST THINGS TO PUT THOSE FIVE OPTIONS. COMMISSIONER, IT MAY BE HELPFUL IF THE BOARD WAS WILLING TO TODAY TAKE SOME OPTIONS OFF THE TABLE. YOU KNOW, FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION. IF THE BOARD HAS ONE OF THOSE IN PARTICULAR IT WISHES TO DO, OF COURSE THE BOARD COULD DO

THAT TODAY. >> MR. BLOCKER: IF THAT'S THE CASE I WOULD ASK ÃI THINK AMENDING THE ORDINANCE IS THE WRONG MOVE. I'M NOT EVEN CLEAR WHAT WE NEED

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BUT IN THE FUTURE ÃAND SPEAKING TO DARRELL AND JOY ÃI REALLY WANT TO SEE IN OUR PRESENTATIONS WHAT IS THE CURRENT TRAFFIC COUNT. I'M NOT CLEAR ON THAT NOW AND I THINK THERE'S SOME COST STUFF. I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS BUT I'M NOT CLEAR WE NEED TO MAKE THIS CHANGE RIGHT NOW. CERTAINLY NOT AMENDING THE ORDINANCE. I THINK THAT'S THE WORST OF THIS BY FAR AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE COMPLETELY JUST SO WE CAN PUT THE PUBLIC AT EASE AND ALSO JUST BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT OUR SAFETY.

THE GONNA ÃI THINK THERE'S POTENTIAL THERE, THE SHUTTLE, I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED THAT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THE STAFF CAN EXPLORE AND LOOK INTO.

IF WE CAN MOVE THIS ALONG TO HELP Ã

>> WE WILL TAKE SOME MORE COMMENTS.

>> SPEAKER: WELL, FIRST, I WANT TO RESPOND TO THE LADY WHO SPOKE VERY ELOQUENTLY ON THE ISSUE AND POSED THE QUESTION ABOUT WHY NOT LOOK AT THE COSTS OF THE TEMPORARY PARKING AS I DID ON THE GUANO NORTH LOT. THE REAL SIMPLE ANSWER IS I CONSIDER TEMPORARY PARKING ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. A COMPLETE NONSTARTER. I CONCUR WITH MR. BLOCKER Ã COMMISSIONER BLOCKER IS RIGHT AND THAT IS A SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUE. I HAVE ONLY PROBABLY TRAVELED ON PONTE VEDRE BLVD. ÃI LIVE IN THE SOUTH END OF THE COUNTY ÃPROBABLY THREE TIMES A YEAR ON AVERAGE.

DURING THE WEEKDAY. AND WHAT I HAVE NOTICED AND THIS IS PURELY ANECDOTAL, BUT IT'S LIKE RUNNING A GAUNTLET.

EVERY 200 OR 300 FEET, THERE IS A LARGE MAINTENANCE MAN, A LARGE CONSTRUCTION TRUCK, OTHER DELIVERY TRUCKS.

EVERY 200 FEET FOR THAT WHOLE STRETCH.

I'M AMAZED THERE ARE NO MORE ACCIDENTS NOW.

IT WOULD BE A COMPLETE SAFETY DISASTER IN MY MIND TO PROVIDE ANY KIND OF TEMPORARY PARKING ON THIS VERY NARROW STREET, EVEN THOUGH THE RIGHT OF WAY MAY BE WIDE, THE STREET ITSELF IS NARROW.I WANTED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTIO BECAUSE I DIDN'T EVEN TRY TO CALCULATE IF THE COSTS WERE ZERO.

I DIDN'T EVEN CONSIDER TEMPORARY PARKING.

BUT I WOULD CONSIDER CERTAINLY AS COMMISSIONER BLOCKER HAS ADDED, I WILL CONSIDER LOOKING AT THE GUANO NORTH PARKING LOT.

THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST CHOICE, I THINK, THAT I WOULDN'T GIVE UP ON THE SHUTTLE CONCEPT BUT IF WE DO ANYTHING, I WOULD WANT MORE INFORMATION AND THAT WOULD BE MY POSITION.

>> MR. WALDRON: I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT AND SPEAKING TODAY. YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THIS, I WENT TO STAFF AND ASKED HIM ABOUT THE NORTH, AND WHAT THE COST WOULD BE. YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF RENTS THEY CREATE. I WANT TO GO THAT WAY IF IT'S THE WAY YOU WANT TO GO. BE MORE THAN WILLING TO PAY TO FRIENDS. I WAS TOLD THIS MORNING.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A SHORT TIME DURING THE WINTER.

I UNDERSTAND WE GOT AT THIS POINT NOT BY OUR OWN DOING BUT WE ARE HERE SO WE HAVE TO DECIDE HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT. I AM A BIG PROPONENT OF PUBLIC ACCESS. PUBLIC ACCESS IS OUR THEY ARE.

YOU KNOW, AS A LIFELONG RESIDENT, I'VE BEEN HERE AND MY DAD WAS A COMMISSIONER FOR THAT AREA BACK IN THE 80S FROM 78 TO 90. THERE WAS PUBLIC ACCESS OPEN THEN ALL UP AND DOWN THE BOULEVARD.

YOU KNOW, THE FAMILIES THERE HAVE BECOME MORE FAMILY ORIENTED, MORE KIDS. NOCATEE IS GROWING AND EVERY FAMILY HAS YOUNG KIDS THERE. THAT WASN'T THE CASE DURING CERTAIN TIMES OF THIS SPAN SO YOU HAVE MORE ACTIVITY, MORE ACCESS NEEDED. KIDS SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO THE BEACH AND ENJOY IT AND RIDE THEIR BIKES.

AS A HARDSHIP WE ARE FACING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD I GREW UP IN HERE, ONCE THOSE KIDS MOVED AWAY THERE WAS NO KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 10 OR 15 YEARS. AND IT'S ENJOYABLE TO SEE THE REJUVENATION OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WAYÃTHEN YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PLAYGROUNDS BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE WHEN I WAS A KID AND YOU PROBABLY COULD'VE WENT UP THERE IN THE CAR EVERY 10 MINUTES. IT JUST WASN'T TRAFFIC AT THAT

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>> MR. BLOCKER: JUST TO GO TO WHAT COMMISSIONER WALDRON SAID I THINK COMMISSIONER DEAN HIGHLIGHTED AS WELL.

I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE THE DATA POINTS TO DO ANYTHING RIGHT NOW JUST BASED ON ÃI DON'T KNOW WE HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE ON THE TRAFFIC COUNT IF IT'S CREATED THIS NEED, AGAIN, TO REITERATE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS STUFF TO COME BACK.

WE ARE LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF WEEKS HERE.

SO WHAT'S THE TIMELINE NOW FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED?

WHAT'S TO STOP A MAP? >> THE END OF JANUARY

>> WE ARE LOOKING AT SEVEN WEEKS NOW.

SO I THINK THIS PROBABLY CAN WAIT, MR. CHAIRMAN UNTIL THE LIKE TO SEE FROM STAFF IF THE D BOARD AND CURSES WITH THE TRAFFIC COUNT IS THERE IS GOING TO BE A COST USING IGUANA.

I LIKE TO SEE WE CAN FINE TUNE THAT AND MAYBE STAFF COME BACK

WITH A RECOMMENDATION. >> IF I MAY, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, WHAT YOU HAVE STATED THEIR I THINK IT COULD BE USED AS A MOTION. I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER, CONSIDERING THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY YOU HEARD TODAY, IF INCLUDED IN SUCH A MOTION, THERE COULD ALSO BE THE EXPRESS REJECTION OF OPTION NUMBER FOUR.

>> THANK YOU, PATRICK. >> I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN I MAKE A MOTION AT THIS TIME THAT WE SEND THIS BACK TO STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON DECEMBER 19 MEETING EXPRESSLY BELOW RELATED OPTION NUMBER FOUR TO ALLOW TEMPORARY PARKING ALONG PONTE VEDRE BLVD.

DURING MORNING HOURS EXPRESS ELIMINATION ABOUT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION AS TO OPTION FIVE AND OPTION FOR USE OF ONE ACCESS POINT DURING MORNING HOURS WHICH IS OPTION TWO NOUN OR OPTION 5 REMAIN AS IS.

WHAT SHE WANT THE ELIMINATION OF OPTION NUMBER 4 AND THE

EXPRESSED FOCUS UPON 2 AND 5? >> YES SIR.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ARE WE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THIS IS? ELIMINATION OF NUMBER 4 FOCUS ON 2 AND 5 TO BE BROUGHT BACK

AT THE NEXT MEETING. >> MR. DEAN: QUESTION I MAY BE A DIRECTION TO STAFF.E ARE GOING TO BE GOING FROM DECEMBER 20 TO MID JANUARY AND WHAT IS HISTORICALLY THE HOLIDAY SEASON WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF VISITORS DURING THE WEEK, NOT JUST THE WEEKEND. AND I'D LIKE FOR STAFF TO BE PREPARED ON DECEMBER 19 IF POSSIBLE GIVE US SOME INDICATION OF WHAT INCREASE FOOT TRAFFIC THERE MIGHT BE OR BEACHGOERS DURING THAT PERIOD BECAUSE WE ARE IN AN UNUSUAL.

IN THE WINTERTIME WHICH IS TWO WEEKS OF NORMAL CHRISTMAS VACATION WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE A LOT MORE BEACHGOERS DURING THE WEEK AND THIS WEEK, FOR EXAMPLE.

I AM JUST ASKING THAT TO BE CONSIDERED.

>> ON DECEMBER 17. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR MOTION.

AND IT PASSES 5 TO 0. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: MOVING ALONG TO

[Item 4]

MS. LUNDQUIST WILL BE PRESENTING THIS.

BEFORE WE GET INVOLVED IF YOU ALL WOULD KEEP IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU.

WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ALONG. I JUST WANT TO SET FOR THE BOARD HOW WE WILL HANDLE THIS THIS MORNING IN REGARD TO NOMINATIONS AND VOTE. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, LET'S MOVE IT OUT AND QUIET DOWN WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS TO CONDUCT THIS MORNING. THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU FOR COMING. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR BEFORE MS. LUNDQUIST PRESENTS, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS THIS IN REGARD TO PROCESS AND PROCEDURE THIS MORNING.

WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR NOMINATIONS AND THEN FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL SEAT AND THEN WE WILL VOTE ON THOSE.

I WILL GIVE YOU MORE SPECIFICS IN A MOMENT.

WHAT WE WILL DO BEFORE WE DO THIS NOMINATIONS IS WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AND THEN THAT PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE ADDRESSED IN REGARD TO BOTH

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MS. LUNDQUIST? >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. MELISSA LUNDQUIST ASSISTANT TO YOU AND JUST TO GIVE YOU THE BASICS ON THE SIDE OF MY THINKER PACKET EXPLAINS MOST EVERYTHING FAIRLY WELL.

BUT YOU HAVE TWO CURRENT VACANCIES ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY. THEY ARE DUE TO THE EXPIRED TERMS OF MR. JEFF MARTIN AND MR. JON WOODARD.

WE ADVERTISED THESE VACANCIES DURING THE MONTH OF MARCH.

YOU CURRENTLY HAVE REPRESENTATIONS FROM DISTRICT 1, DISTRICT 3 WHO IS THE SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE AS WELL, DISTRICT 4 AND 5. DISTRICT REPRESENTATION IS NOT REQUIRED HOWEVER WE'VE ALWAYS MADE THE BEST ATTEMPT TO TRY TO COVER ALL DISTRICTS. I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT YOU HAVE 20 APPLICATIONS IN YOUR PACKET.

I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT MR. WOODWARD HAS SERVED TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS, JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR.

THE FIRST TERM WAS FOR THREE YEARS.

HE WAS COMPLETING THE UNEXPIRED TERM OF MR. RAY QUINN FROM 2012 IS WHEN HE WAS APPOINTED. HIS SECOND TERM WAS A FULL FOUR-YEAR TERM. YOUR RULE 2.2 03D DOES STATE IT'S KIND OF IN REVERSE, BUT A TERM IS TWO YEARS OR LESS IN LENGTH. A MEMBER IS ELIGIBLE TO SERVE ADDITIONAL TWO TERMS. SO THAT THIRD TERM ÃI MEAN, THAT THREE-YEAR TERM OF MR. WATERED THE FIRST INITIAL TERM THAT HE SERVED WOULD BE CONSIDERED A FULL TERM.

SO IF YOU DO OPT TO REAPPOINT HIM, YOU WOULD HAVE TO SUSPEND YOUR RULE 2.203, MAKE THAT APPOINTMENT, AND THEN REINSTATE THAT RULE. I THINK THAT COVERS MOST EVERYTHING. THE BASICS.

IF THERE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.

>> SPEAKER: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LUNDQUIST? ALL RIGHT. WHAT WE WILL DO NOW IS OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.OMMISSIONER BLOCKER, WE WILL GO THROUGH PROCEDURAL ÃPROCEDURE IN A MOMENT AND HOW WE WILL HANDLE

THIS BOOK. >> MR. BLOCKER: AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON A NUMBER FOUR IN THE AGENDA PER PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

TWO MICHAEL VINES PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> ED SLAVIN BOX 3084 I SUPPORT THE NOMINATION OF JANE WEST TO BE A MEMBER OF THE PCA. IT'S ABOUT TIME.

WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST UNDER MR. WANCHECK, AN OUTBREAK OF SEXISM AND MISOGYNY WHEN KAREN ZANDER WAS RECOMMENDED FOR A POSITION ON THE PCA AND THEN THE RUG WAS PULLED OUT FROM UNDER BECAUSE THE GUY WHOSE SEAT SHE WAS NOMINATED TO PHIL DECIDED HE WASN'T GOING TO RUN FOR PROPERTY APPRAISER AFTER ALL AND WANTED HIS SEAT BACK. AND J MORRIS AND THIS COMMISSION'S PREDECESSOR I THINK UNCONSTITUTIONALLY AND ILLEGALLY DISCRIMINATED AGAINST KAREN ZANDER FALSELY BOUGHT INTO THE STAFF'S ARGUMENT SOMEHOW HER ARGUMENT WAS WHITE.

HER APPLICATION WAS NOT WHITE. SHE WAS RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE PCA AND THAT STANDS AS A SINISTER ON THE DISCUSSION OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY UNTIL IT IS REMEDIED.

WE NEED A WOMAN, A QUALIFIED WOMAN WHO KNOWS ZONING LAW ON THE PCA AND THAT WOMAN IS JANE WEST.

I HAVE SEEN JANE WEST SINCE I RECOMMENDED THAT SHE BE NAMED AS AN ALTERNATE TO THE ST. PAUGUSTINE BEACH PCP AND SHE WA NAMED AS AN ALTERNATE AND SHE WAS PROMOTED.

SHE IS THE CHAIR THERE NOW SHE DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB AND IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYER WITH A THOUSAND FRIENDS OF FLORIDA.

WE NEED TO REMEDIED THE GOOD OLD BOY SYSTEM ON THE PCA.

YOU APPOINTED MR. MCCORMICK AND HE'S DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB.

THE REST OF THE PEOPLE ON THAT PCA TEND TO BE REPUBLICAN POLITICAL PARTISANS AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE PUT THERE.

AND, IN FACT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ST. AUGUSTINE RECORD, I PUT IT ON THE BLOG A FEW YEARS AGO. THERE WAS A LETTER WHICH WAS UNREBUTTED WHICH STATED AT LEAST AT THAT TIME THAT IN ORDER TO GET AN APPOINTMENT TO ONE OF THESE BOARDS, YOU HAD TO BE A REPUBLICAN. WELL, LET'S AND THAT AND LET'S AND THAT NOW. LET'S PUT JANE WEST ON THE PCA AND LET'S NOT COMMIT ANY MORE SEX DISCRIMINATION.

I SENT YOU AN EMAIL I SENT MR. MCCORMICK AN EMAIL ON THE SUBJECT OF THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

I THINK YOU NEED A RESEARCH MEMO ABOUT WHETHER THE HAS COMMITTED SEX DISCRIMINATION. AND CONSIDERING ONLY ONE PERSON, A WHITE MALE TO FILL THE POSITION OF INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. I THINK YOU NEED TO OPEN IT UP.

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RECOMMEND HER. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

YES MA'AM. >> SPEAKER: THE MORNING MEGAN PERKINS 143 SCOTTSDALE DOCTOR, PONTE VEDRE, FL.

I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.

I AM IN LAND USE AND ZONING ATTORNEY AND I GREW UP IN JACKSONVILLE. I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL BOWLS UPON GRADUATION I WENT OFF TO FSU WHERE I RECEIVED TWO DEGREES ONE IN FINANCE AND ONE IN REAL ESTATE.

UPON GRADUATION AT FSU I CAME BACK TO JACKSONVILLE AND I WENT TO FLORIDA COASTAL SCHOOL OF LAW.

UPON GRADUATING LAW SCHOOL I RECEIVED A JOB AT THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE, STATE ATTORNEY FOR THE FOURTH CIRCUIT I BEGAN MY CAREER AS A PROSECUTOR AND AFTER THAT, I REALIZED MY PASSION HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN REAL ESTATE.

AND SO I LEFT THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE AND THE EUNUCH WE ARE DOING IN LAND USE AND ZONING FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS.

UPON GRADUATION OF LAW SCHOOL I GOT MARRIED AND MY HUSBAND AND I WHO BOTH GREW UP IN JACKSONVILLE QUICKLY REALIZED WE WANTED TO FIND A PLACE TO LIVE.

AND WE REALIZED THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY WAS THE ONLY PLACE FOR US. IT WAS A PERFECT PLACE TO RAISE A FUTURE FAMILY. WE HAVE BEEN LIVING IN MARKETING FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS ALMOST 7 YEARS AND WE HAVE SEEN IT BECOME AN AMAZING COMMUNITY.

WE SEEN THE GROWTH OF NAGA D THROUGHOUT ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

AND WITH THAT WE HAVE SEEN THE CHALLENGES THE COUNTY FACES AND SO I WANT TO SAY THAT WE NEED Ã IT'S VITAL WE NEED SOMEONE ON THE PCA WHO RECOGNIZES THAT WE NEED TO HAVE CONTINUED GROWTH BUT GROW RESPONSIBLY AND RECOGNIZE ALL THE CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH GROWTH. AND IN THAT I BELIEVE I WILL PROVIDE A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE NOT ONLY AS A LAND USE AND ZONING ATTORNEY AND A FORMER PROSECUTOR BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY AS A WORKING MOM OF TWO YOUNG CHILDREN WHO WANTS TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ÃEXCUSE ME. YOU MAKE ME NERVOUS.

>> SPEAKER: YOU ARE FINE. JUST CALM DOWN.

>> CONTINUES TO PROVIDE AN ENVIRONMENT FOR CHILDREN WHERE THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF EVERYTHING THAT NOCATEE HAS TO OFFER IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY PAIRED WITH THAT, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT HAVING AN APPOINTMENT ON THE PCA BOARD WOULD ALLOW ME TO SERVE MY COMMUNITY THAT I LOVE AND THAT I WANT TO RAISE MY CHILDREN IN. WITH THAT I WOULD ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT MY APPLICATION FOR THE PCA AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MRS. PERKINS.

>> SPEAKER: MY NAME IS JANET PATTON AND I LIVE AT 7265 A1A SOUTH AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE ST. JOHN'S PACIFIC ROUNDTABLE. AND LAST MONTH, WE SENT YOU, COMMISSIONERS, A RESOLUTION REGARDING THE PCA ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT CANDIDATES WHO HAVE SERVED THE COUNTY BEFORE AND OTHER APPOINTED POSITIONS SHOULD WE HAVE MANY WELL-QUALIFIED CANDIDATES. AND SECONDLY, WE ASK YOU TO LOOK AT DIVERSITY, ESPECIALLY WOMEN.

THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? MR. CHAIRMAN, SEEING NO FURTHER

FOR COMMENT >> MR. SMITH: WITH PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSE LET ME GO THROUGH THAT I'VE CHOSEN TO DO THIS PROCEDURALLY.E WILL ÃI WILL OPEN THE FLOOR TO NOMINATIONS FOR ONE SEAT AT A TIME AND WE WILL BEGIN THIS MORNING WITH MR. WATER'S SEAT. NOMINATIONS DO NOT NEED TO BE SECONDED BUT IT'S NOT OUT OF ORDER TO SECOND A NOMINATION TO SIGNAL YOUR ENDORSEMENT. THERE'S NO NEED ÃANY ONE OF US CAN NOMINATE AND THAT NOMINATION WILL STAND EVEN IF IT'S NOT SECONDED. I WILL REPEAT EACH NAME TO THE AUDIENCE AS IT'S MADE AND A NOMINEE MAY RISE AND DECLINE THE NOMINATION AS WELL. THE ROBERTS RULES OF MOTION TO CLOSE NOMINATIONS IS OUT OF ORDER AS LONG AS ANY MEMBER WISHES TO MAKE A NOMINATION. I WILL SAY THIS, THAT ALTHOUGH YOU CAN MAKE A NOMINATION, I ASK THAT YOU MAKE ONE NOMINATION AND THEN WENT ALL HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE WHEN YOU CAN MAKE ANOTHER. BUT I WILL NOT CLOSE NOMINATIONS UNTIL ALL HAVE BEEN MADE.

WHEN I CLOSE NOMINATIONS WHENEVER THE NOMINATIONS ARE FORTHCOMING. UPON A BOAT WHAT WE WILL DO, THE ELECTION WILL BE DECIDED BY A MAJORITY VOTE.

THE VOTE WILL BE TAKEN ON EACH NOMINEE IN THE ORDER IN WHICH

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LET ME GO BACK AND REHASH IT AND YOU CAN MAKE A NOMINATION PLEASE MAKE ONE AT A TIME. WE WILL TAKE THOSE AND AS THEY COME WE WILL VOTE ON EACH OF THOSE NOMINATIONS BASED IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE DELIVERED.

AND THEN WE WILL VOTE THROUGH THEM SYSTEMATICALLY, WHICHEVER ONE GETS A MAJORITY VOTE WILL THEN BE ELECTED TO THAT SEAT.

OMMISSIONER DEAN? >> THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE ÃTHIS IS FOR MR. WATER'S POSITION.

>> SPEAKER: JUST A MOMENT. >> SPEAKER: HOLD ON.

ARE THESE OTHERS ARE YOU SETTING UP FOR NOMINATIONS? IS THAT WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN? LEGAL FIRST.

>> SPEAKER: SINCE WE WERE DISCUSSING MR. WOODARD'S SEAT AS MELISSA STATED, THAT IN ORDER TO CONSIDER MR. WOODARD FOR HIS OWN SEAT, YOU NEED TO SUSPEND THE RULE SO THAT'S ROLE 2.2 03C AND IT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY A MAJORITY +1 OF THE VOTE OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BEFORE HE IS ABLE

TO BE ON THE NOMINATION LIST. >> MR. DEAN: I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A NOMINATION. STEVE AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A RECOMMENDATION.

>> MR. DEAN: OKAY. I ASKED ABOUT MR. WATER BECAUSE HE'S CURRENTLY IN DISTRICT 3 AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE RICHARD HILSENBECK WHO IS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 3.

I COULD SPEND HALF AN HOUR TALKING ABOUT HIS BACKGROUND.

I HAPPEN TO BE A GOOD FRIEND OF OVER 30 YEARS.

I WILL TELL YOU THIS. RICHARD HILSENBECK, WHEN IT COMES TO FLORIDA'S ENVIRONMENT, AS A ROCK STAR.

HE SPENT OVER 30 YEARS WORKING FOR THE NATURE CONSERVANCY WHICH MOST OF YOU KNOW IS, IN MY OPINION, ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND WELL-RUN CONSERVATION LAND ACQUISITION PROGRAMS IN THE NATION, ACTUALLY IT'S INTERNATIONAL, AND HE HAS SERVED THE NATURE CONSERVANCY EXTREMELY WELL.

HE'S ACTUALLY BEEN INVOLVED IN MORE STATE ACQUISITIONS BEEN MADE WHICH I FIND ÃI'M A LITTLE ENVIOUS OF.

NEVERTHELESS, HE IS A WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING, HE IS A GREAT ÃHE HAS HIS PHD AND HIS THESIS, I CAN'T EVEN PRONOUNCE, LET ALONE UNDERSTAND. IT'S SO DEEP INTO THE ECOSYSTEM, BUT IN HIS FIELD. GREAT GUY.

WONDERFUL FLORIDIAN. HE ÃALTHOUGH HE LIVES IN DISTRICT 3, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE MARSH CREEK, HE'S ONLY ABOUT A FIVE IRON AWAY FROM DISTRICT 5 BECAUSE I LITERALLY HAVE BEEN ON THE 11TH FAIRWAY AND HIT A FIVE IRON ACROSS THE CANAL WHICH IS IN DISTRICT 5. SO I'M NOT SAYING HE CAN SERVE TWO DISTRICTS BUT HE KNOWS ABOUT THEM.

ENOUGH SAID. I NOMINATE RICHARD HILSENBECK AND IF YOU READ HIS RESUME, IT'S QUITE EXTENSIVE AND IMPRESSIVE GROUP WORK I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

I AM WILLING TO SECOND THE NOMINATION.

I ALSO HAVE A NOMINATION. IS IT APPROPRIATE TO MAKE UP

FOR THE SECOND SEAT >> YOU CAN DO IT NOW AND YOU CAN DO IT FOR THE SECOND SEAT AS WELL IF IT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL.

HERE'S NOTHING LIMITING THAT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON DOCTOR HILLSHILLS AND BACK

>> MR. CHAIRMAN I DO HAVE ANOTHER NOMINATION AND I WILL SAVE IT FOR THE SECOND SEAT. OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO STATE

IT NOW? >> SPEAKER: THAT'S ENTIRELY UP

TO YOU. >> MR. BLOCKER: THE SECOND NOMINATION WOULD BE ÃI'M GOING TO MAKE THIS FOR THE SECOND

SEAT Ã >> MR. SMITH: ONE SEAT AT A TIME BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PUT IT HERE IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN THE FIRST SEAT YOU CAN DO THAT AND IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT ADDITIONALLY IN THE SECOND SEAT YOU CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

>> MR. BLOCKER: MR. CHAIRMAN, WE WILL GO WITH THIS NOMINATION AND I WILL MAKE IT FOR THE SECOND.

>> MR. SMITH: I DON'T WANT TO COMPLICATE THINGS, BUT COMMISSIONER WALDRON, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING?

>> MR. WALDRON: THAT WOULD BE A SECOND.

>> SPEAKER: ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR THE JON WOODARD SEAT? SEEING THERE ARE NO OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR THE JON WOODARD SEAT, RICHARD HILSENBECK IS SUCCESSFULLY ACCOMPLISHED IT BY ÃTHERE'S NO NEED FOR A VOTE

UNLESS WE DO NEED ONE? >> SPEAKER: I WOULD RECOMMEND TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE. THERE'S A NOMINATION AND A

SECOND ALREADY. >> SPEAKER: WE HAVE A MOTION ALL WE NEEDED WAS A MISSION WE DO HAVE A SECOND.

LET ME CLEAR IT UP TO GRAB EMOTION BUT COMMISSIONER DEAN AND A SECOND BITE COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

PLEASE VOTE. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

PLEASE VOTE. HE IS NOW GOING TO BE SEATED IN JON WOODARD'S SEAT. THE NEXT SEAT IS JEFF MARTIN'S SEAT. IT IS UP.

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FOR NOMINATIONS. >> MR. BLOCKER: THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MISS MEGAN PERKINS FOR THIS SEAT. I WANTED TO SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT THIS. MS. PERKINS AND I AM FAMILIAR WITH HER WORK ETHIC. WE SERVED TOGETHER AS PROSECUTORS UP IN JACKSONVILLE. WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER AND TRY A NUMBER OF CASES.

SHE IS AN EXPERIENCED ATTORNEY SOMEONE THAT'S FAIR, THAT'S FIRM AND IMPARTIAL. SHE'S A MOTHER AND I BELIEVE OF TWO CHILDREN AND I BELIEVE SHE WILL PROVIDE A VERY IMPORTANT PERSPECTIVE TO DATE PZA THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY AND I THINK SHE WILL BRING AN ADDED QUALITY OF EXPERIENCE TO THE SPORT. SO AT THIS TIME, I WOULD NOMINATE MRS. MEGAN PERKINS FOR THAT SEAT.

>> SPEAKER: SECOND. >> SPEAKER: WE HAVE A MOTION ON A SECOND. WE HAVE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS?

>> MR. WALDRON: YES. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MISS

JANE WEST. >> MR. SMITH: COMMISSIONER WALTER NOMINATES JANE WEST. ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR THIS SECOND SEAT? ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ALL RIGHT. NOMINATIONS WILL NOW CEASE.

IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, WE WILL NOW VOTE FOR MEGAN PERKINS, FIRST OF ALL. EVERYBODY PLEASE VOTE.

NOMINATIONS WILL NOW CEASE. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, WE WILL NOW VOTE FOR MEGAN PERKINS, FIRST OF ALL.

EVERYBODY PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES 4 TO 1. MISS MEGAN PERKINS IS NOW TAKING A SEAT WITH MR. JEFF MARTIN'S BACON SEAT. SO WE HAVE TWO ELECTED SEATS.

CONGRATULATIONS. WE MOVE ALONG.

>> SPEAKER: MS. PERKINS, I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLING TO DO THIS AND I APPRECIATE YOU STEPPING UP.

I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. WATER FOR HIS SERVICE.

SEVEN YEARS IN A MEETING WITH HIM HE DID STAY ON THE WHICH I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT AS COMMISSIONER AND I APPRECIATE

HIS SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. >> SEVEN YEARS IS A LONG TIME.

>> I FAILED TO SAY AND I WANT TO BE QUICK? I WAS SO IMPRESSED THAT NUMBER ONE, WE HAD 20 APPLICANTS FOR THE PZA AND NUMBER TWO THEY WERE ALL OF SUCH HIGH QUALITY BOTH INEXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE AND BACKGROUND AND I WOULD TEND TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY IF YOU DIDN'T MAKE IT ON THIS RUN TRY AGAIN AND KEEP TRYING BECAUSE IT WAS NOT AN EASY DECISION FOR ME TO PICK FROM THIS LIST OF 20 BECAUSE A LOT OF OUTSTANDING CANDIDATES DID APPLY.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. >> MR. BLOCKER: I WANT TO ECHO WHAT'S BEEN SAID. I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANTS THAT CAME AND I APPRECIATE THE TWO MEMBERS OF THE PZA THAT ARE COMING OFF. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

TO MRS. PERKINS, WELCOME. LOOKING FORWARD TO THE GREAT WORK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AND THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY AND SPEAKING TO US DIRECTLY AND ADVOCATING FOR YOUR POSITION.

I KNOW YOU WILL DO A GREAT JOB AND BRING ADDED PERSPECTIVE AS A MOTHER OF TWO CHILDREN AND JUST A GREAT APPROACH IN YOUR EXPERIENCE. SO THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO THE BOARD, THE BOARD HAS VERY COMPLEX CIRCUMSTANCE VERY JOINTLY SO THANK YOU AND ALSO WISH TO CLARIFY ONE OF THE SPEAKERS COMPLEMENTED MR. MCCORMICK IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB.

HE WAS TALKING ABOUT DOCTOR BILL MCCORMICK.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUT OF 20 APPLICATIONS THERE WAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF QUALITY AND WE REITERATE AND WANT TO BE REDUNDANT THAT FOLKS THAT DID NOT SUCCEED I WANT TO

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OUR AGENDA IS COMPLETE AND WE WILL MOVE ALONG INTO COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. COMMISSION REPORTS.

I WILL BEGIN WITH COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> MR. DEAN: WE GOT HERE SO QUICK, I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT.

>> MR. BLOCKER: THANK YOU. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND REFLECT ON AN IMPORTANT DAY AND OUR HISTORY THAT'S COMING UP YOUR DECEMBER 7, 1941, WAS IMPORTANT TO FIND MOMENT OF OUR HISTORY. AND HOW WE AS A COUNTRY RESPONDED TO ADVERSITY. THAT WAS WHEN MANY YOUNG MEN AND WOMN STEPPED FORWARD AND WENT AND SERVED THE COUNTRY AND THE MILLIONS MORE STAYED BEHIND AND KEPT THE FARMS GOING, THE FACTORIES GOING. THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE IN UNIFORM BUT THEY SERVED IN THE COMMUNITY. VERY TRAUMATIC TIME IN OUR HISTORY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT, THE SACRIFICES WE WENT THROUGH IN PEARL

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I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND THE TREMENDOUS SACRIFICE. THE SACRIFICE THEY MADE IN THAT TIME OF CONFLICT REALLY HAS SENT OUR COUNTRY UP FOR SUCCESS AND WE HAD CHALLENGES IN OUR LIFETIME OR WE CONTINUE TO HAVE CHALLENGES GOING FORWARD BUT THE RESILIENCY AND THE STRENGTH AND THE RESOLVE THAT THOSE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN DEMONSTRATED BOTH ON THE HOME FRONT AND OVERSEAS IS TREMENDOUS AND I THINK AN IMPORTANT LESSON FOR US TO LEARN. SO AT THIS TIME OF THE HOLIDAYS WE ARE THANKFUL AND WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AS A POINT OF THANKFULNESS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

COMMISSIONER WALDRON? >> MR. WALDRON: JUST ONE THING GOING BACK NEED TO MAKE A GOOD EFFORT TRY TO PUT UP MORE BEACH ACCESS.

SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET I THINK WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT IN THIS BUDGET.

BUT WE HAVE MANY NEEDS DOWN AT THE BEACH AREA CRESCENT BEACH AREA WALL COVERS AND THE SAFETY LANES GOING ACROSS IT WILL BE A GOOD TIME TO START LOOKING AT THAT AND TRY TO GET AHEAD OF IT FOR A CHANGE. IN OTHER THAN THAT I JUST WANTED TO JUST BRING UP SOME UPDATES.

IT WAS A VERY NICE DAY AT THE VA CLINIC GROUNDBREAKING.

IT WAS A GREAT EVENT AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THERE AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING THAT WAS THERE. LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING BUILT.

THEY SAY THEY WILL HAVE IT DONE IN LESS THAN A YEAR OR RIGHT AT A YEAR SO THAT'S GOING TO BE GREAT.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHN SPEWED >> MR. JOHNS: I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE IN QUITE A FEW FESTIVALS AND OTHER EVENTS IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND IT JUST REMINDS ME THE DIVERSITY OF OUR COMMUNITY WHAT WE SEE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THE HEART OF THE PEOPLE IS REALLY WHAT MAKES OUR COMMUNITY SO ATTRACTIVE.

IT'S WHAT MAKES OUR COUNTY SCHOOLS NUMBER ONE.

IT'S WHAT MAKES US HEALTHY AND IT'S WHAT MAKES US SO ATTRACTIVE IS THE PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATE IN THESE IMPORTANT MEETINGS, ADVISORY BOARDS, ETC., THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY. I'M APPRECIATIVE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE AN ACTIVE INTEREST IN PARTICIPATE EVEN FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE OFFICIALLY ON BOARD YOU CAN STILL PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETINGS AND HAVE A VERY ACTIVE VOICE IN SHAPING THE DIRECTION OF OUR COMMUNITY AS WE DO CHANGE.

IT CAN BE A CHALLENGE TO KEEP THOSE SPECIAL QUALITIES IN OUR COUNTY THAT WE HAVE BEEN ATTRACTED TO OR HAVE GROWN UP IN. AS WE DO GROW.

I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE TO HAVE A BALANCE BETWEEN KEEPING A SPECIAL QUALITIES THAT WE EITHER WERE RAISED AROUND OR BROUGHT US HERE SOME YEARS AGO AND YET STILL ATTRACT NEW PEOPLE TO OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THESE DIALOGUES BEFORE TODAY'S MEETING.

WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT WE GET BY IN AND TODAY'S MEETING I FEEL LIKE WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS. NOT JUST TODAY BUT PRIOR TO TODAY. SO THAT WE CAN MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS.I APPRECIATE THE COMMISSIONERS MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION TO NARROW THE LIST TO BE MORE FOCUSED WITH OBJECTIVE INFORMATION, PARTICIPATING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDING WHAT CAN BE THE BEST RESULTS.

IF TODAY IS NOT A GOOD EXAMPLE OF NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS.

WE ARE HOPEFULLY THINGS ARE WELL INTENDED GOT SIDETRACKED AND WE ARE TRYING TO GET IT BACK ON TRACK, BUT IT TAKES THE PARTICIPATION OF THE COMMUNITY TO DO SO.

WHILE IT MAY HAVE BEEN LONG DISCUSSION I THINK IT WAS TIME WELL SPENT NOT JUST BY STAFF AND THE BOARD BUT BY THE COMMUNITY AND ATTENDING THE FESTIVALS AND THESE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO CELEBRATE THIS TIME OF YEAR, ESPECIALLY TO BE THANKFUL FOR THE THINGS THAT WE DON'T EVEN THINK TWICE ABOUT, THAT OTHER STATES AND OTHER COUNTRIES STRUGGLE TO ATTAIN, WE NEVER WANT TO TAKE OUR EYE OFF THAT SPECIAL QUALITY THAT WE HAVE HERE AND I WANT TO THANK OUR COMMUNITY FOR PARTICIPATING IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS, NOT NECESSARILY ON LIVE TELEVISION, BUT EQUALLY IMPORTANT WAYS AND OUR COMMUNITY, MAKING THEIR DESIRES KNOWN, GIVING A LENDING HAND WHEREVER THEY CAN, WHETHER IT'S CANNED DRIVES, FOOD DRIVES, COATS, BLANKETS, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT DOES SO IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S AN HONOR TO LIVE HERE, IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE GROWN UP IN THE AREA AND TO CONTINUE TO REPRESENT AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY LIKE ROBIN IS TRULY AN HONOR AND WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME OF YEAR JUST TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE BOARD, TO THE STAFF AND TO OUR COMMUNITY FOR MAKING THIS SUCH A SPECIAL PLACE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE, WORK AND RAISE A

FAMILY. >> MR. SMITH: THANK YOU.

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FOOD FOR THOUGHT. CABBAGE HARVEST HAS BEGUN AND THERE'S GOING TO BE DISTILLED PLANTING OTHER CROPS ARE BEING PLANTED BUT OTHERS ARE BEGINNING TO BE HARVESTED NOW.

FOR THE COUNTY LINE HAS BEEN OPEN FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS SO THOSE WHO COMMIT YOUR WAY TO HASTINGS.

CHRISTMAS PARADES, GLAY ST. AUGUSTINE'S IS THIS WEEKEND, DECEMBER 7. HASTINGS WILL BE DECEMBER 14.

COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS FOR THE 2000 TO 19 CALENDAR YEAR AS CHAIRMAN IF YOU HAVE ANY PREFERENCES, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SOME MINOR CHANGES BUT IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. WE WILL HANDLE THAT.

IT WAS JUST SLIPPED TO ME A NOTE MS. LUNDQUIST IS TRYING TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING WHERE WE CAN DEAL WITH INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS DECEMBER 6.

I DON'T BELIEVE MR. CONRAD WILL BE AVAILABLE AT THAT POINT, BUT MAYBE WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT IF IT WORKS.

IT LOOKS LIKE WITH THE CALENDAR, WITH YOUR CALENDAR, LOOKING AT EVERYBODY DECEMBER 13 LOOKED LIKE IT MIGHT BE

AVAILABLE? >> IS SATURDAY EVENING A

POSSIBILITY? >> SATURDAY EVENING?

>> I MEAN JEREMIAH MIGHT BE GONE ALL WEEKEND.

>> SPEAKER:

>> I HAVE AN EXTENDED ÃI'M GOING FROM FRIDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY UNFORTUNATELY. WILL BE OUT OF TOWN ON MILITARY DUTY. I'M SORRY FOR THE INCONVENIENCE

THAT CREATES FOR THE BOARD. >> IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE BOARD ASKED FOR HUNTER COMING IN. IF WE SO CHOOSE TO DO IT, WE CAN'T ÃWHICH CAN'T BE DELAYED ANOTHER WEEK.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT.

TO REMOVE FORD ON MONDAY IF WE CAN GET FOUR OF US THERE AND NOT FIVE OR DO WE WAIT UNTIL FRIDAY WHEN FIVE OF US CAN BE THERE? WAS THE PROVINCE OF THE BOARD? MS. LUNDQUIST, DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS LOOKING AT

CALENDARS? >> ALL OF YOU ARE VERY BUSY.

I KNOW EVEN LOOKING WITH TAKING INTO ACCOUNT COMMISSIONER BLOCKERS MILITARY DUTIES NEXT WEEK, THAT THURSDAY, I WILL HAVE SEVERAL COUNTY EVENTS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS YOUR CALENDARS ARE PACKED. THAT FRIDAY THE 13TH.

I KNOW COMMISSIONER DEAN WOULD BE IN TALLAHASSEE AT FACT.

THAT WAS LOOKING AT YOUR CALENDARS THAT DAY.

THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN AND MAYBE HE MIGHT HAVE A STAFF MEMBER ATTEND IN HIS PLACE TO THAT MEETING IN TALLAHASSEE THAT WAS ONLY THE OTHER DAY THAT I COULD SEE OTHER THAN THIS FRIDAY AT 3:00 I THINK COMMISSIONER JOHNS WOULD HAVE TO MAKE CONCESSIONS ON A DATE TO TRY TO GET YOU ALL FIVE

TOGETHER AT ONCE. >> WE ARE ALL BUSY.

COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> SPEAKER: I HAVE TO SAY THE LAST FACT MEETING WAS IN SEPTEMBER OR WAS SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER AND IT WAS CANCELED DUE TO THE HURRICANE AND I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO BE THERE ON A 13.

WE HAVE ONGOING I RATHER BE THERE TO VOTE

>> IF MONDAY AFTERNOON WOULD WORK EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T ONLY

HAVE FOUR THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. >> THE OTHER OPTION IS POTENTIALLY WEDNESDAY LATE AFTERNOON EVENING

>> IS IT POSSIBLE TO CALL IN? COULD WE CALL IN THAT

AFTERNOON. >> WE WILL BUT I SEE OUR COUNTY

ATTORNEY SHAKING HIS HEAD >> YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE BUT WISE UNFORTUNATELY SO WE COULD CHECK TO SEE IF YOU COULD CALL IN TO BE ON THE PHONE.

I WILL DOUBLE CHECK THAT BUT CERTAINLY WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE

TO VOTE THAT WAY. >> WELL THIS IS ÃANY OTHER

RECOMMENDATIONS? >> COULD WE POTENTIALLY DO IT THIS THURSDAY IS THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME THIS COMING

THURSDAY >> HUNTER IS NOT AVAILABLE

>> WE ARE HAVING A LITTLE DISCUSSION HERE ABOUT THE CALL IN OPTION. WE MIGHT NEED A FEW MINUTES TO RESEARCH THAT TO SEE IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF A CALL IN AND THEY VOTE. I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THAT AS

SORT OF AN OPEN QUESTION >> I'VE SEEN IT DONE QUITE A

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>> SPEAKER: EVEN IF YOU CAN CALL IN AND PARTICIPATE AND NOT VOTE IT WOULD STILL BE BETTER THAN NONVOTING.

>> THE OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE CONCERNING TIME THURSDAY AFTERNOON?

>> SPEAKER: THIS THURSDAY OR NEXT THURSDAY?

>> NEXT THURSDAY. >> SPEAKER: I WILL BE OUT OF

TOWN, BUT I CAN CALL IN. >> WOULD YOU BE AVAILABLE TO CALL IN ON MONDAY?

>> THE OPINIONS THAT WE SEE PERTAIN TO SORT OF EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE SOMEBODY'S IN THE HOSPITAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT MILITARY LEAVE WOULD QUALIFY AS THAT IN SORT OF ERRING ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION MY ADVICE WOULD BE WE DON'T SEE A CLEAR GREEN LIGHT

FOR THAT >> I UNDERSTAND.

WHAT WOULD BE THE RISK IF WE WENT THAT DIRECTION? NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT BUT WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION.

LEARLY OUR CALENDARS ARE OUT OF WHACK.

DO I NEED TO GET YOU A COPY OF THE MILITARY ORDERS? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU FOUND THAT SAID THAT'S

PROHIBITED TO DO A CALL IN? >> AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MY JOB IS TO PROTECT THE BOARD AND INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS WHEN DEALING WITH SOMETHING LIKE THE SUNSHINE LAW WE TAKE A MORE CONSERVATIVE VIEW. IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE GIVEN THAT WE ARE DOING VERY QUICK RESEARCH ON THIS ISSUE, MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN SORT OF EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES I THINK WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE AG'S OFFICE.

IT MIGHT TAKE A BIT OF TIME. IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A RECESS IN COMBAT, WE CAN PROBABLY DO THAT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO AGAIN GO AS FAR AS I REASONABLY CAN TO GET

THE BEST ANSWER. >> WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE COME FORWARD, PUBLIC COMMENT > AT SLAVEN BOX AUGUST 3, 2004.

MOSQUITO CONTROL HAS A POLICY BASED UPON THE AG'S OPINIONS AND I THINK YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND PROBABLY ADOPT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. GENERALLY FOR THE BCC IN THE FUTURE. I WOULD CERTAINLY THINK MILITARY ORDERS WOULD FIT WITHIN THE CATEGORY OF THE AG'S OPINION. IT WAS ADOPTED A FEW YEARS AGO ONE OF COMMISSIONER MEULLER'S RELATIVES WAS IN BAD HEALTH AND PENNSYLVANIA BASICALLY THE WAY THE RULE BY TELEPHONE SAYS IF YOU HAVE A REALLY GOOD REASON AND IF IT'S APPROVED BY THE BOARD IN ADVANCE AND IF YOU ATTEND THE ENTIRE MEETING NOT

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PWE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT >> COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> YOUR LEGAL OPINION BECAUSE YOUR NUMBER ONE JOB AS YOU ALWAYS STATE IS CORRECT TO KEEP THE BOARD AS A COLLEGIAL BODY AND INDIVIDUAL FROM BREAKING THE LAW SO I RESPECT YOUR OPINION. HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK IT IS MY OPINION BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE I AM 30 YEARS AND A MANAGEMENT POSITION WITH STATE GOVERNMENT.

I PARTICIPATED IN MANY DISCUSSIONS FORMAL MEETINGS WHERE A BOARD MEMBER WOULD CALL IN BECAUSE THEY HAD UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES, THEY COULDN'T MAKE THE MEETING.

NUMBER ONE, THAT'S THE CASE. NUMBER TWO, FOR THAT 30 YEAR.

I ALWAYS ASK THE QUESTION WHEN THIS ISSUE OF THIS TYPE CAME UP AND THERE WAS POSSIBLY A JUDGMENT CALL TO BE IT'S BORDERLINE. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, HE ALREADY RAISED THE QUESTION WHO'S GOING TO SUE US.

IF WE GO FORWARD, AND ONE OR TWO COMMISSIONERS PARTICIPATE TELEPHONICALLY, AND SOMEONE CHALLENGES THE CONTRACT, I WILL TAKE THAT CHANCE. I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE THE BALL DOWN THE FIELD. WE HAVE BURDENED THE CHAIRAN ENOUGH ALREADY WITH THIS AND I DON'T THINK HE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO ANOTHER MONTH THROUGH THE CHRISTMAS SEASON AND RUN LEADERSHIP. SO AGAIN, PATRICK, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION, BUT I AM PREPARED TO MOVE IF NECESSARY TO GO FORWARD WITH A HEARING Ã OR A MEETING BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET AN INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR ON BOARD QUICKER RATHER THAN LATER.

>> I COMPLETELY CONCUR. MS. LINGUIST IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND BEGIN TO PLAN A MEETING THE AFTERNOON MONDAY, DECEMBER 9 WHATEVER TIME WOULD WORK WITH A MINIMUM OF AN HOUR AND 1/2.

>> I WILL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE.

IF I MAY, WHAT WE WILL DO IN THE INTERIM IS TO BEST RESEARCH THIS AND THEN WE WILL NOTIFY THE BOARD GENERALLY BUT ESPECIALLY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER THE FULL EXTENT AS WE ARE BEST ABLE TO ASCERTAIN WHICH MAY BE CALLING PARTICIPATING WHICH MAY BE CALLING ANYBODY WE WILL TRY TO GET THE BEST OPINION WE CAN AT THAT TIME. AGAIN, THE CIRCUMSTANCES I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST ARE EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES AND AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE NOT ALL OF THOSE ARE COMPLETELY SPELLED OUT. SO WE HAVE CONTACTS IN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE THAT ARE EXPERIENCED WITH THESE.

THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A CIRCUMSTANCE ELSEWHERE SO WE WILL DO THE HOMEWORK ON THAT. HE BOTTOM LINE IS MY LAST ADVICE THAT WE WILL GIVE AFTER RESEARCH, I WILL GET BACK.

AND THANK YOU. >> I WILL CLOSE WITH THIS.

IF PAT GLEASON SAYS THIS IS A NO NO CALLING AND I WILL CRY

UNCLE GIVE UP >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR. WE ARE MOVING CLEAR FORWARD WITH MONDAY UNLESS YOU CAN FIND WE ARE BREAKING THE LAW.

I APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK AND I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE TESTY BUT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD UNLESS THE BOARD SAYS OTHERWISE. WE ARE MOVING FORWARD ON

MONDAY. >> THE BOARD WILL HAVE A MEETING WHETHER PARTICIPATION BY TELEPHONE AND THE SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES I WILL GIVE ADVICE ON THAT.

HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE FULL OPPORTUNITY IF NOT A PARTIAL, BUT WE WILL GIVE THE BEST ADVICE AND I THINK WORST-CASE IF IT TURNS OUT AND COMMISSIONER DEAN PAT GLEASON IS PROBABLY THE FIRST CALL WE WILL MAKE OF IT TURNS OUT IT WILL NOT BE REASONABLY PRUDENT TO DO THAT MY SENSE IS THAT THE BOARD ITSELF WILL CONTINUE ON WITH THAT MEETING.

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IS THAT THE EXPECTATION? >> I AM NOT BOUND TO THAT.

I AM NOT SAYING THAT I WOULD CONTINUE ON IF THERE'S NO TELEPHONIC COMMUNICATION. I WILL MAKE THAT DECISION IF I HAVE TO. OTHER THAN I WANT TO SET THE MEETING FOR MONDAY. AND WE WILL SEE HOW THE CHIPS

FALL. >> MR. JOHNS: DOES THE MEETING ON MONDAY PROVIDE SUFFICIENT TIME FOR PUBLIC NOTICE FOR

>> THERE WOULD BE. THE BOARD HAS A ROLE FOR SPECIAL MEETINGS ITS 72 HOUR NOTICE AND ASSESS IT WOULD BE

REASONABLE NOTICE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MEETING FOR MONAY AND WE WILL DEAL WITH THE TELEPHONIC INPUT AND NOTICE OF THE RULING AT THAT POINT AS WELL. ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER DEAN? DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT CAME TO MIND?

>> MR. DEAN: I'M AT A LOSS OF ANY OTHER COMMENT.

>> MR. SMITH: ADMINISTRATION? >> NOTHING.

>> THANK YOU. COUNTY ATTORNEY?

>> SPEAKER: MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, SINCE THE NOVEMBER 19 MEETING, THERE HAS BEEN A NUMBER OF KIND OF TIME SENSITIVE ITEMS THAT HAD TO BE SIGNED.

IN CONSULTATION WITH THE CHAIR, THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SIGNED A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WERE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FROM THE DECEMBER 19 MEETING ÃI'M SORRY. NOVEMBER 19 MEETING.

I CAN SORT OF READ OUT WHAT EACH OF THOSE WERE, THE

CONSENT. >> THEY WERE APPROVED BY THE BOARD AND I UNDERSTAND SIGNED WITHOUT ANY REVISIONS WHATSOEVER. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> SO ÃSO I WOULD JUST ASK Ã JUST SO THE BOARD WOULD KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, IT'S A CONSENT 12, 14, 24, 27, AND 11.

FURTHERMORE, IF MR. GIAMMANCO IS WITH US, THE FEMA PROGRAM HAS KIND OF A PROVISION THAT THERE HAS TO BE A COUNTY SIGNATURE CERTIFYING OFFICER AS PROVIDED BY THE FEDERAL CODE, 24 CFR PART 58. IF THE BOARD WOULD ALLOW I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MR. GIAMMANCO COME UP AND BRIEFLY DESCRIBE THOSE. ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS MR. WANCHECK HAD BEEN THE DELEGATED CERTIFYING OFFICER FOR THOSE PURPOSES, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ÃIF THE BOARD WOULD CONCUR THEY WOULD HAVE ANOTHER DELEGATED CERTIFYING OFFICER BUT ALSO COULD BE

>> GOOD MORNING. IT'S FOR THE HUD PROGRAM FOR THE ARTS. IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS, ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS.

WE HAVE TO SEND OUT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT LETTERS TO THE TRIBES TWO DIFFERENT AGENCIES AS PER THE SITE THAT PATRICK READ AND SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE STATED OR DELEGATED TO A SPECIFIC PERSON. AND SO THE COMMISSIONERS HAD BEFORE SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MR. LOCKLEAR HAVING IT SO I NEED TO

HAVE IT SENT OUT. >> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 60 OF THEM GETTING READY TO SET UP FOR SIGNATURE AND PROBABLY A COUPLE HUNDREDS AND THEY ARE TIME SENSITIVE.

THEY START THE CLOCK FOR CONSULTATION WITH THESE AGENCIES AND IT'S ABOUT A 60 DAY CONSULTATION.

30 DAYS AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

THEY ARE TIME SENSITIVE IF WE DON'T DELAY WE CAN GET THESE

PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD FASTER >> MOST OF THESE ARE DEAR FUNDING ESPECIALLY WITH HOUSE REPAIRS ETC.

>> CORRECT. EVERYTHING A BRITTANY FORD IS THROUGH THE PROGRAM FOR HOUSING REPAIR OR INFRASTRUCTURE

PROJECTS TIED TO THAT FUNDING. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

>> JUST ONE MORE THING ON TODAY'S CONSENT AGENDA WHICH THE BOARD ADOPTED AS AMENDED, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ITEMS WHICH AUTHORIZED THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR DESIGNEE TO SIGN. IF THE BOARD WERE ALSO CONSIDER MR. LOCKLEAR OR SOME OTHER COUNTY OFFICIAL TO SIGN THOSE

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THAT I DESCRIBED, THE CFR 58 FORMS AS DESCRIBED FOR MR. GIAMMANCO AND THE APPROVED CONSENT ITEMS WITHOUT ANY CHANGES. I WOULD ASK THE BOARD FOR A

MOTION >> I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION. MOTION

FROM MIC] >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD. I DON'T SEE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT

AT THIS TIME. >> MR. SMITH: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NON-, PLEASE VOTE.

IN THE PAST AS 5 TO 0. >> ONE MORE THING.

FOR THE KINGS GRANT MATTER, THERE'S A MEDIATION SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 19. THE COUNTY WILL NEED TO HAVE AN AUTHORIZED COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE.

IT COULD BE A BOARD MEMBER, IT COULD BE A SENIOR STAFF MEMBER.

THERE'S SOME SORT OF PROS AND CONS IN EACH DIRECTION OF THOSE. I WOULD ASK FOR SORT OF A DESIGNATION OF AN AUTHORIZED COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE FOR THAT MEDIATION. IT COULD BE THE CHAIR, IT COULD BE THE DISTRICT COMMISSIONER, IT COULD BE A SENIOR COUNTY OFFICIAL, IN WHICH CASE MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE MR. LOCKLEAR FOR THAT. SO IF THE BOARD WOULD CONSIDER

THAT. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> MR. BLOCKER: I THINK THIS CAME UP WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING ABOUT APPOINTING A BOARD MEMBER. THE DISCUSSION CAME UP BUT I THINK THE DECISION WAS GOING TO BE MADE FOR LATER ON.

SO HERE I'M NOT ACTUALLY ASKING FOR Ã

>> SPEAKER: RIGHT. IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION FROM

THE BOARD? >> SPEAKER: I RECOMMEND NOT TO ADD ANY MORE TO YOUR PLATE, BUT AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THIS TIME IF YOU ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT.

>> I WOULD DECLINE THAT AND I HAVE REASONS THAT I THINK ARE MEANINGFUL BECAUSE THERE ARE PROS AND CONS I THINK I HAVE CONS THAT I WOULD DECLINE IT. ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS?

>> SPEAKER: WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THAT CASE, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER DEAN HAS HAD QUITE A BIT OF EXPERIENCE IN SOME OF THESE AREAS. I THINK IT'S PRUDENT TO PUT A BOARD MEMBER ON THERE. I WOULD NOMINATE COMMISSIONER

DEAN IF YOU WOULD ACCEPT. >> I WILL SECOND THAT, THEN.

COMMISSIONER DEAN WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO BE A BOARD REPRESENTATIVE. ANY DISCUSSION?

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> OF SLAVE AND BOXER THEREFORE I RECOMMEND COMMISSIONER DEAN ALSO. THANK YOU.

>> ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> HER BACK TO THE BOARD.

ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.

AND COMMISSIONER DEAN THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS AND ABILITY TO DO SO. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> MR. CHAIR THAT COMPLETES MY COMMENTS.

>> WITH THOSE COMMENTS COMPLETED ALL HEARTS AND MINDS

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.