[Call to Order by Chair] [00:00:10] >> AT MORNING EVERYONE WE WILL CALL TO ORDER THIS REGULAR MEETING TUESDAY THE 21ST. WE WILL START WITH THE ROLL CALL PLEASE. >> CHAIR COMMISSIONER CLAY MURPHY. >> HERE. >> MEISTER COMMISSIONER ANN TAYLOR. >> PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN WHITEHURST. >> PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER SARAH ARNOLD. >> PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER KRISTA JOSEPH. >> PRESENT. >> WE WILL INVITE FROM ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR INVOCATION FOLLOWED CLSELY BY -- FROM UNITED STATES COAST GUARD COMMANDER FOR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> SEEMS KIND OF AWKWARD EVERYONE BEHIND ME. PSALMS DECLARES -- BEHOLD HOW GOOD AND PLEASANT IT IS FOR PEOPLE TO DWELL TOGETHER IN UNITY. IT IS LIKE THE PRECIOUS ORNAMENT UPON THE HEAD THAT RAN DOWN UPON THE BEARD. EVEN ERROR IN SPIRIT. WENT DOWN TO THE SKIRTS -- THAT THIS ENDED UPON THE MOUNTAINS OF ZION. FOR THEIR WAY THE LORD THERE THE LORD COMMANDED THE BLESSING EVER EVEN IN LIFE FOREVER MORE. TWO THINGS IN VERSE ONE THAT THE SOMME WANTS US TO BE REMINDED OF AS IT RELATES TO THE BELIEVER IN THE LORD. TWO THINGS HE POINTS OUT. HE SAYS BEHOLD HOW GOOD. GOOD IS SIGNIFICANCE AND IS A DERIVATIVE OF HOW GOD SEES US IN RELATION TO OUR CONDITION. PLEASANT IS HOW THE PEOPLE OF GOD SHOULD CONDUCT THEMSELVES AMONGST EACH OTHER. IT'S WHAT IS SIGNIFICANT REGARDING UNITY. UNITY IS GOOD AND PLEASANT IN THE SIGHT OF GOD. LET US PRAY GRACIOUS INTERNAL GOD OUR FATHER WE COME TODAY TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS IS A DAY YOU HAVE MADE AND WE SHALL REJOICE AND BE GLAD IN IT. WE PRAY RIGHT NOW THAT YOU INVOKE YOUR PRESENCE, YOUR MANIFEST PRESENCE IN THIS SESSION ON TODAY. WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED, WHO WILL RECEIVE AWARDS FOR THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND WE THANK YOU FOR THEM OF THEIR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE ASK YOU CONTINUE TO GUIDE THE LEADERSHIP HERE TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU CALLED THEM TO SERVE. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME AND WE ASK RIGHT NOW YOU WILL CONTINUE TO BE WITH US THIS DAY IN JESUS' NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. >> AMEN. DR. JOE? >> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU, YOU MAY BE SEATED. [Certificate Recognizing Grace Maceda] COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, SHAYNA KELLER WILL BE PRESENTING HER FIRST PROCLAMATION. >> AT MORNING PICK I'VE A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION FOR MY DISTRICT, DISTRICT FOREIGN HAD TO V.J. BEACHUM OF A YOUNG LADY WHO SAVED A LIFE AND THEY ARE ALL HERE TODAY AND I'D LIKE HER TO TELL HER STORY ABOUT HOW SHE SAVED A WONDERFUL WOMAN'S LIFE. GRACE, COME ON UP AND YOUR FAMILY. AND JULIE WHO SHE SAVED, COME ON UP. IT'S A GOOD HAPPY ENDING BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH HERE. [APPLAUSE] GRACE WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL US WHAT HAPPENED? >> I'M GRACE. I -- A LITTLE WHILE AGO I HELPED SAVE MY NEIGHBORS LIFE. I HAD JUST GOTTEN HOME FROM SEEING MOVIES WITH MY FAMILY AND I WAS WALKING MY DOG AND I SAW HER LAYING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET. SO I RAN OVER AND CHECKED TO SEE IF SHE WAS OKAY AND SHE WAS NOT WAKING UP SO I CALLED MY GRANDFATHER OVER BECAUSE MY PARENTS WERE OUT OF TOWN AND I CALLED 911. AROUND THAT TIME AFTER I CALLED THEM SHE STOPPED BREATHING SO THE LADY ON THE PHONE TOLD ME TO [00:05:04] ROLL HER OVER AND START DOING CHEST COMPRESSIONS UNTIL THE EMERGENCY SERVICES GOT THERE. AND LUCKILY AFTER THEY ARRIVED ABOUT 5 MINUTES AFTERWARDS AND WERE ABLE TO SAVE HER AND GET HER HEART TO START BEATING AGAIN. I'M REALLY GLAD SHE'S MADE A FULL RECOVERY. [APPLAUSE] >> MY NAME -- I'M THE PERSON SHE SAVED AND OBVIOUSLY I CANNOT SAY SHE'S GOING TO BE A HERO FOR LIFE FOR ME. WITHOUT HER EYE WOULD NOT BE STANDING HERE TODAY SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU. WILL GET A PICTURE OF THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO'S REALLY PROMOTED THIS YOUNG LADY SO WE COULD BRING HER HERE TODAY. WHILE SPAS. >> GOOD MORNING. [Proclamation Recognizing Mental Health Awareness Month] I'D LIKE TO CALL UP THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION FOR MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH OF YOU WOULD COME ON IT. MS. KELLER, WOULD YOU READ THE PROCLAMATION? >> A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ST. JOHN COUNTY FLORIDA. WHEREAS MENTAL HEALTH IS THE FOUNDATION OF AN INDIVIDUALS THOUGHT PROCESSES, RELATIONSHIPS, PRODUCTIVITY AND COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDING AND ACCESS TO SUPPORT SERVICES IS VITAL TO A PERSON'S ABILITY TO HANDLE STRESS, MOVE FORWARD AND LEAD A FULFILLING LIFE. AND WHEREAS EACH BUSINESS, SCHOOL, GOVERNMENT AGENCY, HEALTH CARE PROVIDER, FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATION, NONPROFIT AGENCY AND CITIZEN SHARES A COLLECTIVE RESPONSIBILITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY'S MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS AND PROMOTE PROACTIVE WELLNESS AND PREVENTION EFFORTS. AND WHEREAS ST. JOHNS COUNTY REMAINS STEADFAST IN ITS COMMITMENT TO ADDRESSING THE CHALLENGES FACING PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS. AND WHEREAS MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH SERVES AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF MENTAL HEALTH AND TO PROMOTE MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS WHICH LEADS TO HIGHER OVERALL PRODUCTIVITY, BETTER EDUCATIONAL OUTCOMES, LOWER CRIME RATES, STRONGER ECONOMIES, LOWER HEALTH CARE COSTS, IMPROVED FAMILY LIFE, IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE AND INCREASED LIFE SPAN. NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF JANE -- ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA THAT THE MONTH OF MAY, 2026 BE DESIGNATED AS MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH. PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA THIS 21ST DAY OF APRIL 2026. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. OF YOUR HERE AND STANDING WITH US AND YOU WORK WITH ANYONE THAT IS STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL ILLNESS CAN YOU PLEASE COME AND STAND WITH US IN SOLIDARITY? THANK YOU SO MUCH. COME ON. WHILE THEY'RE COMING OUT MY NAME IS LISA AND I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF PATIENTS NOT PRISONERS AND IT'S JUST ONE NONPROFIT THAT HELPS PEOPLE WHO STRUGGLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS AND THEIR FAMILIES WHO LOVE THEM. I'M HONORED TO BE HERE REPRESENTING PATIENTS NOT PRISONERS IN ALL OF OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH COMMUNITY THAT IS STANDING BEHIND US HERE AS WE CELEBRATE THE DESIGNATION OF MAH AWARENESS MONTH IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY HEART FELT GRATITUDE TO EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR UNWAVERING SUPPORT TO THIS [00:10:05] DEDICATION INTO THIS CAUSE. TOGETHER WE ARE BUILDING SOMETHING MEANINGFUL, BRINGING AWARENESS, EDUCATION AND COMPASSION TO THOSE WHO STRUGGLE AND OFTEN FEEL UNSEEN AND UNHEARD. I WANT TO EXTEND A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO COMMISSIONER CLAY MURPHY. YES FOR OUR INCREDIBLE COMMUNITY PARTNERS. EPIC, SMA HEALTH CARE, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, NOMINEE,, COMPASSIONATE ST. AUGUSTINE AND ST. JOHNS SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND ALL OF THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CONSORTIUM. YOUR COLLABORATION IS WHAT MAKES THIS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND TODAY WITH GREAT JOY I WANT TO WELCOME OUR NEWEST PARTNER THE DIOCESE OF ST. AUGUSTINE. MORENA STANDING HERE -- MAUREEN IS STANDING HERE WITH THE BISHOP AND YOUR PRESENCE AND COMMITMENT TO REFLECT THE POWERFUL STEP FORWARD IN CARING FOR THE WHOLE PERSON. MIND, BODY AND SPIRIT. IT'S MY HONOR TO SHARE THIS PROCLAMATION WITH YOU AS A SYMBOL OF OUR SHARED MISSION IN UNITY. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] [APPLAUSE] >> WE BOTH -- [Proclamation Recognizing and Commemorating the Two-Year Anniversary of "We Brought the Smoke!" ] >> I WOKE UP IN THE BUS WAS SLOWING DOWN AND PULLING OVER TO THE SIDE AND SOMETHING'S WRONG BUT DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE MAGNITUDE OF IT. >> WAS SITTING RIGHT BEHIND THE DRIVER SO ONE LIGHT BEGAN TO FLASH RED AND HE LOOKED. THAT ANOTHER LIGHT BEGAN TO FLASH AND ANOTHER RED LIGHT BEGAN TO FLASH AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE ENTIRE DASHBOARD BEGAN TO FLASH RED. >> THE BUS DRIVER, ALL THESE RED LIGHT STARTED GOING OFF. >> THERE WAS A TICKING OR FLAPPING. >> ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE WAS THIS LOUD NOISE, SOUNDED LIKE -- >> BREATH KIND OF SHOOK A LITTLE BIT AND HE BROUGHT IT TO THE CURB ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. AS SOON AS HE STOPPED HE SAID EVERYBODY OFF THE BUS AND WE KNEW SOMETHING WAS UP. >> I WASN'T REALLY SCARED BUT I WAS HESITANT ABOUT GETTING OUT. >> WE WERE THREE ROWS FROM THE FIRES SO WE FELT THE HEAT BEFORE ANYBODY DID. >> THE ENGINE IS RIGHT THERE SO ALL THAT SMOKE WAS COMING. >> I WAS FEELING WORRIED GETTING PEOPLE OFF THE BUS IN TIME [00:15:05] BECAUSE THE SMOKE SMELL WAS TERRIBLE. >> IT WAS MUCH MORE LIKE BURNING RUBBER. >> PART OF THE PROBLEM WE HAD IN GETTING OFF THE BUS WAS PEOPLE WANTING TO TAKE THEIR STUFF WITH THEM. >> I KNEW THE SMOKE, THERE'S FIRE. >> A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE STILL SITTING AT WE WERE LIKE WONDERING WHEN WE GOT OFF THE BUS. >> IT WAS TERRIBLE. >> WE WHO WERE LET OUT OF THE BUS WATCHING IT OR JUST EXPECTING IT TO BURST INTO FLAMES. >> THEY TOLD YOU WHEN YOU GOT OFF THE BUS, GET AWAY FROM THE BUS BECAUSE THEY WERE AFRAID IT COULD EXPLODE. >> WITH SISTER CAROL WAS SCREAMING GET AWAY FROM THE BUS. I WAS JUST FRANTIC. WHEN I SAY THE FIRE CONSUMED -- IT WAS UP OVER THE BUS. I KNEW THAT BUS WAS GOING TO EXPLODE. BUT IT DIDN'T. >> SO PEOPLE BEHIND ME WERE HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY BREATHING AND IT GOT SCARY. LIKE OH, MY GOSH,, WE MAY NOT GET OFF THIS BUS. >> THAT'S HOW THICK AND DARK THE SMOKE WAS. YOU COULD NOT SEE. >> WITHIN SECONDS WE WERE VISUALLY IMPAIRED BY THE SMOKE ENTERING THE BUS. >> A MARINE WHO IS 6'8", THE SMOKE WAS SO THICK HE WAS NOBODY WAS LEFT ON THE BUS. >> I THINK MY MILITARY TRAINING KIND OF LED ME THAT WAY. >> TO BE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAD LEFT THE BUS. HE'S A HERO. >> I DON'T SEE MYSELF AS A HERO. I SEE MYSELF AS A GOD-FEARING, GOD LOVING HUMAN THAT LOOKS OUT FOR OTHERS -- OTHER HUMAN HUMAN BEINGS. >> UNIVERSALLY ONE BEHIND. I HAVE TO GIVE OF THAT. THEY WERE NOT LEAVING NO ONE BEHIND. >> NOBODY TALKED ABOUT GOING BACK. >> WE HAD COME TOO FAR. WE WANT THAT MUSEUM HERE'S ST. AUGUSTINE. NOBODY THINKING LET'S GO. >> THE AMAZING THING THAT NOT ONE PERSON SAID OKAY TAKE ME BACK. >> WE WANTED TO GO TO TALLAHASSEE. THAT WAS OUR GOAL BUT THANK GOD FOR THE REST OF THE FOLKS. >> THEY MOVED US FROM POINT A TO POINT C AS ONE. >> NOBODY COULD GO AROUND US OR IN FRONT OF US. EVERYBODY HAD TO STAY BEHIND US. GOD WAS IN THAT PLAN. >> THINGS HAD TO HAPPEN. >> AFTER EVERYBODY WAS SAFELY OFF AND IT WAS SETTLED DOWN AND I GUESS WE DO AT THIS POINT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE HELP COMING FROM THE COUNTY, WHICH DID COME PRETTY QUICKLY, HE SAID OKAY DO Y'ALL STILL WANT TO GO? >> WE'RE GOING TO TALLAHASSEE. ♪ ♪ >> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WHERE ARE ALL MY BUS PEOPLE? MY BUS RIDERS. WHO WAS ON THE BUS TWO YEARS AGO. CAN YOU COME UP HERE PLEASE? [APPLAUSE] AS HE JUST SAW TWO YEARS AGO THERE WAS A VERY FAITHFUL BUS RIDE. THAT MORNING WE ALMOST LOST ALL THE LEADERSHIP IN THE VERY IMPORTANT COMMUNITY OF WEST AUGUSTINE BUT BY THE GRACE OF GOD NOT ONLY DID WE NOT LOSE ANYBODY, THEY ALL CAME TO TALLAHASSEE AND WE REFER TO THAT MOMENT, THAT FIRE AS WE BROUGHT THE SMOKE BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID. THEY BROUGHT THE SMOKE TO TALLAHASSEE AND BROUGHT THE MUSEUM HOME SO IT'S OUR -- MY HONOR TO RECOGNIZE THAT TODAY. MR. WHITE, WE'RE WAITING ON YOU. >> A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA WHEREAS ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS BEEN SELECTED AS THE PRIORITY LOCATION FOR THE FUTURE FLORIDA MUSEUM OF BLACK HISTORY, A STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY WHICH WILL EMBODY AND CONVEY THE RELEVANCE OF BLACK HISTORY IN THE LOCAL AREA AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND WHEREAS THESE SUPPORTIVE STS INTEGRAL IN SECURING THE PRIORITY RANKING OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS THE FUTURE SITE OF THE FLORIDA MUSEUM OF BLACK HISTORY AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS FROM WEST AUGUSTINE ORGANIZED AND UNDERTOOK WHAT TURNED OUT TO BE A PERILOUS JOURNEY ON APRIL 19TH 2024 TO TALLAHASSEE. TO IMPRESS UPON THAT STATE TASK FORCE THE IMPORTANCE OF PRIORITIZING ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS THE LOCATION FOR THE MUSEUM AND WHEREAS ST. JOHNS COUNTY WISHES TO RECOGNIZE THE COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION OF THE RESIDENTS WHO [00:20:01] WERE ON THE TALLAHASSEE BOUND BUS ON APRIL 19TH 2024. ALL OF WHOM CHOSE TO PRESS ON TO TALLAHASSEE TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT EVEN AFTER THE BUS UNEXPECTEDLY CAUGHT FIRE AND HAD TO BE LEFT BEHIND. ENGULFED IN FLAMES ON THE SIDE OF INTERSTATE 10. AND WHERE IS THE RESIDENTS SUCCESSFULLY ARRIVED IN TALLAHASSEE, DEMONSTRATING THEIR ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORT FOR LOCATING THE SIGNIFICANT FACILITY IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND HELP TO SECURE ST. JOHNS COUNTY PRIORITY STATUS AS A LOCATION FOR THE FLORIDA MUSEUM OF BLACK HISTORY. AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA THAT THROUGH THE COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS, WE BROUGHT THE SMOKE. PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE SUPPORT OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS CODY FORD OF THIS 21ST DAY OF APRIL 2026. [APPLAUSE] >> I THINK IT WAS YOU WHO COINED THE TERM, RIGHT? GET UP HERE. OF AN. SAY A FEW WORDS FOR US. >> THANK YOU. THE ONE WHO COINED THE PHRASE WE BROUGHT THE SMOKE. FIRST OF ALL TO HONOR THE -- STANDING BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING BUT I WANT TO GIVE SPECIAL THANKS TO A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS PAST COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND CERTAINLY AS WELL AS OUR CURRENT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT SUPPORT FROM THE VERY TOP VERY RARELY DOES ANYTHING HAPPEN AT THE BOTTOM. SO TO YOU THIS MORNING I SIMPLY SAY THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> GET A LITTLE TIGHTER AND CLOSER TOGETHER FOR ME. AGO. ARE YOU READY? [APPLAUSE] >> A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE [Acceptance of Proclamations ] PROCLAMATIONS. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT A PROCLAMATION. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE. WE REALLY APPRECIATED. I KNOW WHEN YOU GOT HERE ORIGINALLY THE AGENDAS WERE MISSING A PAGE. WITH HAD IT REPRINTED IN THERE NOW OUT ON THE TABLE IN CASE ANYBODY NEEDS A CURRENT AGENDA WITH ALL THE PAGES IN IT. IF YOU NEED SOMETHING THERE, IT'S AVAILABLE TO US NOW. [Deletions to Consent Agenda ] DO WE HAVE ANY DELETIONS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. >> I HAVE NONE. >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> NO CHAIR. >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >> I AM NONE. [Approval of Consent Agenda ] >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> I HAVE NINE. >> AND I HAVE NONE. DO WE HAVE AN APPROVAL FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> SO MOVE. >> PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OUT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> GOOD MORNING. >> IN MORNING SUET TERM AND MURPHY, COMMISSIONER. AND DORIS TAYLOR, I LIVE IN ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH. HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM 18. GRANT FLOOD MITIGATION STUDY. IT'S HERE AGAIN. WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS PLAN AGREEMENT I NOTICED SOMETHING ODD. THE BEGINNING DATE WAS LISTED ON THE DOCUMENT HAS JULY 1ST [00:25:02] 2025. OVER EIGHT MONTHS AGO. WHAT DAY WAS THIS GRANT APPLIED FOR? WHEN WAS IT AWARDED? AND IF IT WAS AWARDED MONTHS AGO WHY WAS IT NOT BEFORE THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL UNTIL NOW. QUESTIONS WE SHOULD CONSIDER. AND THIS GRANT WORK AGREEMENT SPECIFIES THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN REPORT BE FOR NATURE-BASED IMPROVEMENTS AND MITIGATION STRATEGIES. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE STATE OWNS THE SUBMERGED LANDS AND WATERS BELOW -- THEREFORE THE WORK MUST BE LIMITED TO THOSE AREAS UNLESS SPECIFIC PERMISSION IS GRANTED BY THE LAND OWNERS. WE HOLD THE DEED. THAT INDICATES PROPERTY OWNERS IN ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH OWN THAT PROPERTY. THE LAND ALONG SHORE DRIVE. THIS DEED HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU PREVIOUSLY. THE GRANT AGREEMENT ALSO SPECIFIES PUBLIC OUTREACH AND STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT. GIVEN THAT WAY THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH HOLD A DEED TO THE PROPERTY, I CONTEND THAT EACH PROPERTY OWNER IN ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH IS A STAKEHOLDER AND DESERVES TO BE KEPT IN THE LOOP. I BRING THESE ISSUES UP NOW IN HOPES THAT WE CAN PREVENT PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD. LET'S NOT WASTE TENS OF THOUSANDS MORE TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO DEVELOP A PLAN THAT MAY LEAD TO FURTHER PROBLEMS. IN A WORD THE STUDY RECOMMENDS SHOULD BE BELOW THE HIGH TIDE MARK WHICH I THINK PROBABLY IS IN KEEPING WITH WHAT THE PLAN IS, BUT I THINK IT WARRANTS CLEAR DISCUSSION TODAY AND AT EVERY STAGE OF THE PROJECT. I EVEN WOULD REQUEST THAT THIS BOARD ALWAYS MAKE IT SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM AND NOT PUT ANYTHING THROUGH ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT'S BECOME SO SENSITIVE. WE NEED TO BE 100% TRANSPARENT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA OF THE -- AT THIS TIME? PLEASE COME FORWARD. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. I WILL KEEP THIS SHORT AND SWEET. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE HASTINGS COMMUNITY FOR ALL YOU ARE DOING FOR OUR TOWN AND OUR COMMUNITY IN BOTH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND ECONOMIC REDEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> JANA DENNIS. 2639 CRAZY HORSE TRAIL. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AT THIS TIME? PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING ON WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH YOU HAVE THE FOOR. >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. >> WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND. LET'S VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [Additions/Deletions to Regular Agenda ] AND OPPOSED. GOING TO ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. >> I AM NONE. >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> I'VE NONE. >> MR. OYSTERS -- WHITEHURST... COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> I'VE NONE. >> FOR THE NUMBER 6 ON THE REGULAR AGENDA WHICH IS THE REMEDIATION UPDATE THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL WORK BEING DONE SO IT'S NOT READY FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION. WE ANTICIPATED OR COME ABOUT THE NEXT MEETING OR SUBSEQUENT MEETING BUT IF THERE'S ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT'S COME TO SPEAK ON NUMBER 6, WE WOULD ADVISE THE COUNCIL TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY OR THEIR WELCOME TO COME BACK AND SPEAK WHEN IT SCHEDULED IN THE FUTURE. >> SOUNDS GOOD. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6 WILL BE PULLED FROM THE AGENDA. IF ANYBODY WAS HERE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6 YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6 DURING PUBLIC COMMENT IN A MOMENT. IS THAT FAIR? [Approval of Regular Agenda ] GOOD JOB. APPROVAL OF THE REGULAR AGENDA. AS AMENDED DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE REGULAR AGENDA AS AMENDED. >> EMOTION IS AMENDED. [Additional Item] A SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. WHAT WERE GOING TO DO BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT AND BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS STILL HERE WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SHOW OUR TOUR TO FARM VIDEO. TYLER VIEW COULD CUE THAT UP FOR ME. ♪ ♪ [00:30:16] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR THE VIDEO. PUSHER JOSEPH YOU RECOGNIZE. >> MAYBE IF YOU COULD PUT MY PICTURES UP NOW BUT CAN I SAY THIS WAS THE COOLEST THING I THINK I'VE DONE IN MY LIFETIME AND THERE WERE FOUR TO FIVE FARMS ON THE LIST AND 150 CARS PAID TO GO ON THIS TOUR AND YOU'D START -- THEY WOULD START AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND WE'D GO AROUND TO THE FARMS. IT WAS SO FUN AND I THINK THE FARMERS WERE ALSO THRILLED BECAUSE THEY SOLD OUT OF EVERYTHING. WE GOT TO DATE POTATOES. MY DAUGHTER'S BACK THERE AND SHE LOVED DIGGING THE POTATOES. THAT WE HAD MASHED POTATOES THE NEXT DAY. THERE'S NOTHING LIKE EATING SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT CAME RIGHT OUT OF THE GROUND. I'M SO PROUD OF OUR LAND AND WE WANT TO KEEP SAVING IT AND THIS TOUR WAS SO AMAZING. I HOPE WE DO IT FOUR TIMES A YEAR. I HOPE ANYBODY -- DID ANYBODY ELSE GO? ONE MORE. >> I WAS ON IT. MY WIFE AND I -- >> IT WAS GREAT. ANYWAY THANK YOU. >> I WANT TO ECHO THAT IT WAS A FANTASTIC EVENT. WE HAD A CHANCE TO GET OUT TO THE FARMS HAD WE WENT TO PARKER FIRS FOR THE FLOWERS AND FOR THEIR PRODUCE WE WENT TO WILSON FARMS AND THE SUPER BOWL COMMERCIAL FROM US WAS PARKER FIRMS. WILSON FARMS WE WENT TO THE FEED MILL AND THEN THE EGG CENTER. IT WAS A TOUR. ABOUT A THREE HOUR TOUR ALL OVER THE AREAS AND IT WAS REALLY COOL. [Public Comment ] SO WATCH OUT FOR THE NEXT ONE THEY'RE GOING TO DO. THEY'RE ALREADY SCHEDULING IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. IF WE COULD NOW GO TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS NOT SCHEDULED FOR ACTION ON TODAY'S AGENDA. WHEN ADDRESSING THE BOARD PLEASE COME TO ONE OF THE THREE PODIUMS AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. EACH PERSON WILL BE PROVIDED MINUTES TO SPEAK AND WE ASK YOU SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE. SPEAKERS WILL COMPLY WITH THE BOARD'S RULES OF CIVILITY AND DECORUM. SPEAKERS MAY NOT DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD. MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WILL REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE DEMONSTRATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS. AND ANY PERSON THAT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE RULES MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE AUDITORIUM. FINALLY ANY SPEAKER THAT WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT MATERIALS PLEASE UTILIZE THE CENTER PODIUM. PAPER MATERIALS CAN BE PLACED ON THE X FOR OUR OVERHEAD CAMERA TO DISPLAY ON THE LAPTOP WILL BE SET UP FOR ANY USB PRESENTATION. AFTER PRESENTING PLEASE PROVIDE THE MATERIALS TO THE STAFF OF THE CLERK OF THE COURT TO BE ENTERED INTO PUBLIC RECORD. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I'M NANCY MURPHY, I LIVE -- I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO BE HERE ESPECIALLY THIS MORNING WITH SUCH A ROOM FILLED WITH HOPE AND GOOD THINGS HAPPENING ALREADY AND SO MANY GOOD THINGS TO COME. IT IS MY HOPE AND PRAYER THAT ONE OF THOSE GOOD THINGS TO COME IS THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY WILL DECIDE IT IS TIME TO EMPLOY WHAT WAS -- WHAT WAS READ TO US IN PSALMS TODAY. GOOD AND PLEASANT. AND THAT COMES TO US IN AN OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME A COMPASSIONATE COUNTIES WOULD LIKE TO READ TWO EXCERPTS FROM THE CHARTER FOR COMPASSION. THE PRINCIPLE OF COMPASSION LIES AT THE HEART OF ALL RELIGIOUS, ETHICAL AND SPIRITUAL TRADITIONS, CALLING US ALWAYS TO TREAT ALL OTHERS AS WE WISH TO BE TREATED OURSELVES. COMPASSION IMPELS US TO WORK TIRELESSLY TO ALLEVIATE THE SUFFERING OF OUR FELLOW CREATURES, TO DETHRONE OURSELVES FROM THE CENTER OF OUR WORLD AND PUT ANOTHER THERE. AND TO HONOR THE SANCTITY OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING TREATING EVERYBODY WITHOUT [00:35:05] EXCEPTION, WITH ABSOLUTE JUSTICE, EQUITY AND RESPECT. WE URGENTLY NEED TO MAKE COMPASSIONATE CLEAR, LUMINOUS AND DYNAMIC FORCE IN OUR POLARIZED WORLD. ROOTED IN A PRINCIPAL DETERMINATION TO TRANSCEND SELFISHNESS, COMPASSION CAN BREAK DOWN POLITICAL, DOGMATIC, IDEOLOGICAL AND RELIGIOUS BOUNDARIES. BOARD OF OUR DEEP INTERDEPENDENCE, COMPASSION IS ESSENTIAL TO HUMAN RELATIONSHIPS AND TO A FULFILLED HUMANITY. IT IS THE PATH TO A LIGHT MINT. AN INDISPENSABLE TO THE CREATION OF A JUST ECONOMY AND PEACEFUL GLOBAL COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COME ON UP. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DAVE HINTON AND I'M REPRESENTING ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH BOARD OF DIRECTORS TODAY. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A MINUTE HERE TO SPEAK A BIT ABOUT THE SUN TRAIL BIKE PATHS AND WALKING PATHS IN THE BEACH AREA. IN 2019 THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH COMMISSIONERS ENDORSED THE SUN TRAIL AND MULTIUSE LANES OF THE WEST SIDE -- SINCE THEN SIGNIFICANT CHANGES HAVE IMPACTED OUR COMMUNITY MOST NOTABLY INFLUX OF E-BIKE'S CAPABLE OF SPEEDS OVER 30 MILES PER HOUR. AS INTRODUCED SEVERAL SAFETY CONCERNS UNFORESEEN BY ORIGINAL PROJECT DEVELOPERS. ADDITIONALLY THE SUN TRAIL FROM WESTSIDE TO EASTSIDE OF THE BOULEVARD RESULTING IN 56 IN GRASSES AND THE TWO A HALF MILE STRETCH -- THE CONFIGURATION PRESENTS OPPORTUNITIES FOR ACCIDENTS, INJURIES AND EVEN FATALITIES MAKING IT CLEAR -- THIS WAS NOT WHAT OUR CITY COMMISSION SUPPORTED SEVEN YEARS AGO. WE ARE ACTIVELY SURVEYING THE LOCAL RESIDENTS AND CURRENTLY 72% OF THE RESPONDENTS BELIEVE THE DESIGN IS FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED. WE STRONGLY URGE THAT THE COMMISSION REQUEST THEY ADJUST THE DESIGN OF THE SUN TRAIL ON A ONE. IN A PERSONAL NOTE I THINK PROBABLY EVERYBODY HERE HAS HAD THEIR THOUGHTS ABOUT E-BIKE'S. I WRITE ONE MYSELF. I HAD THE UNFORTUNATE EXPERIENCE TO WATCH THIS HAPPEN IN FRONT OF A BEACH DINER. FORTUNATELY NOBODY WAS SEVERELY INJURED. THAT MADE MY COMPASSION ON BOTH THE PERSON GETTING HIT BY THE BIKE AND THE PERSON DRIVING THE CAR, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE I FELT WORSE FOR. LIKELY BOTH OF THEM WERE NOT INJURED. E-BIKE'S GOING ON THE SIDEWALK AT 30 MILES PER HOUR BOTH DIRECTIONS -- NOT REALLY KNOWING ALL THE LANES, ALL THE LAWS THAT ARE IN ACT RIGHT NOW. THAT'S MY CONCERN AND I THANK YOU MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. NEXT, COME ON UP. >> GOOD MORNING. >> THANK YOU. 32084... STREET ELIZABETH SETON. I WAS HERE IN JANUARY AND I MADE A STATEMENT THAT MAY NOT BE CORRECT. I DID THE RESEARCH AND I SAW WE WERE GOING TO HAVE 84,000 SENIORS IN THE COUNTY BY 2030. I JUST CHECKED YESTERDAY AND WE ARE UP FROM 62,000 AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR TO 76,000 SENIORS RIGHT NOW. I JUST WANTED TO CORRECT THAT I MAY HAVE GROSSLY UNDERSTATED HOW MANY SENIORS WERE GOING TO HAVE HERE ANY MINUTE NOW. BUT I'M REALLY HERE AND ORIGINALLY I WAS HERE THAT AND I'M HERE NOW TO SUPPORT THE COMPASSIONATE ST. AUGUSTINE NEW AGING INITIATIVE. COMPASSIONATE AGING ST. AUGUSTINE. IT WAS CREATED AND IS MOVING ALONG NICELY TO UPGRADE THE QUALITY OF THE LIVES OF ALL OUR SENIORS OF THE COUNTY. AND PEOPLE ON THE BRAKE WHO DON'T WANT TO GO TO A NURSING HOME AND WOULDN'T HAVE TO IF THEY COULD ONLY JUST GET A LITTLE OUTSIDE HELP. THE SEEMINGLY MINOR ISSUES ARE [00:40:05] FACING CATASTROPHIC OUTCOMES AND NO PROGRAMS HAVE ADDRESSED THE PREDICAMENT UNTIL CASA. IT'S NOW MAKING IT FEASIBLE FOR SENIORS TO AGE IN PLACE AT HOME. WITH GRACE. COMPASSIONATE ST. AUGUSTINE HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD COMPASSIONATE INITIATIVES THAT ARE WELL-DESIGNED, THAT ARE COMPETENTLY CARRIED OUT UNFRUITFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY. THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVE IS FLEXIBLE, IS CREATIVE AND I WAS JUST INFORMED BY THE BOARD PRESIDENT THAT NOW THEY HAVE TRAINED VOLUNTEERS AT THE READY TO IMPLEMENT PERSONALIZED SOLUTIONS ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS IN REALTIME. THAT'S PHENOMENAL. PLUS THERE ARE COMMUNITY OUTREACH PLANNED ACTIVITIES AND SOCIAL AND EDUCATIONAL EVENTS THAT INCREASE THE SENSE OF PURPOSE AND SENIORS THAT WILL RECONNECT THEM WITH EACH OTHER AND THE COMMUNITY AND DISPEL DARKNESS. AND DESPAIR. THE SENSE OF PURPOSE IS NOT ALONE, YOU NEED RELEVANCE AND FOR ME I WAS FEELING PRETTY USELESS AND IRRELEVANT AND CASA REACHED OUT TO ME AND I'VE BEEN ABLE TO TURN MY LIFE AROUND. I HAVE NOW AN AVENUE OF APPROACH NOT JUST SITTING THERE FEELING LIKE I'M WORTHLESS. I'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE ENGAGED AND INTERESTING AND PRODUCTIVE ACTIVITIES IN MY LIFE AND I KNOW THAT WILL BE GOOD FOR OTHER SENIORS TOO. >> THANK YOU. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I DONE? I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU PLEASE SUPPORT COUNCIL ANYWAY YOU POSSIBLY CAN. >> THANK YOU. NEXT COMING UP. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS -- I LIVE AT 1819 AT JACKSONVILLE BEACH. I'M A LIFELONG NORTH FLORIDA RESIDENT AND HAPPEN OPERATING A CHARTER INSIDE THE PRESERVE THE LAST 15 YEARS. I WAS HERE TODAY TO TALK TO ABOUT THE STATE OF THE WATERSHED ON HE WATER QUALITY WITHIN THE PRESERVE AND THE ALARMING STUDIES BEING CONDUCTED OUT THERE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. I SPOKE WITH HANNAH DBP MAKING ME WHERE THE WATER QUALITY STUDY THAT CAME OUT THE LAST SIX YEARS INDICATING A SEVERE SPIKE INFLUENT STORMWATER RUNOFF ENTERING THE PRESERVE. WERE SEEING A NEARLY 600% INCREASE IN NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS, COPPER, HEAVY METALS AND HARMFUL BACTERIA'S ENTERING THE PRESERVE OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS. IT'S EXPONENTIAL GROWTH AND IT'S INCREDIBLY ALARMING MAY BE -- MAINLY DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE SAW THROUGH THE REST OF THE STATE IT HIGH NUTRIENT LOAD BEING CARRIED OF THE BASE. THE RESULT IS ALWAYS THE SAME AND IT'S REALLY HARMFUL. ALGAE BLOOMS CAN DECIMATE ECOSYSTEMS. WE SEE ORGANIZATIONS BE CREATED TO TRY TO COMBAT SOME OF THESE. WE'VE SEEN HUNDREDS AND MILLIONS IF NOT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS COMMITTED BY THE STATE TO COME BACK, THE ALGAE BLOOMS AND SOUTH FLORIDA WE'VE BEEN LUCKY ENOUGH UNTIL NOW TO AVOID. THE PERFECT EXAMPLE IS PRESERVE DOWN IN -- PROJECT TO DATE COST $3.9 BILLION. I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE PROACTIVE AND GET IN FRONT OF THIS NUTRIENT LOAD. I'M HERE TODAY TO ADOPT THE REASONABLE RESOLUTION THAT'S BEEN PUT FORWARD IN MITIGATING THE RUNOFF BEFORE WE REACH THIS CRITICAL MASS AND ESSENTIALLY NO SHIP CAPSIZES. THE NUTRIENT LOADS ARE HARD TO SUSTAIN FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME. IT'S DECIMATING TO THE ECOSYSTEM BUT ALSO RUINS BUSINESSES, TOURISM, HOTEL INDUSTRIES, CHARTER FISHING, HUNTING, OUTDOOR OPPORTUNITIES AND ONCE THE ECOSYSTEMS COLLAPSE RECOVERING THAT WAS INCREDIBLY HARD. IT'S MUCH EASIER TO MITIGATE AND BE PROACTIVE IN FRONT OF IT THAN IT IS BEHIND IT. I KNOW YOU GUYS GOT A CHANCE TO SEE THE PRESERVE -- THE OPPORTUNITY IT PROVIDES THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE WORLD RECORD FISH IN THE RESERVE. THERE'S ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION. I ASK YOU TO PLEASE MOVE FASTER THAN SLOWER ON THE MITIGATION EFFORTS AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE RUNOFF GOING INTO THE WATER PRESERVE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT COMING UP. GOOD MORNING. >> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING COUNTY [00:45:01] COMMISSIONERS. I'M HERE REPRESENTING COMPASSIONATE ST. AUGUSTINE AND I'M HERE TO UPDATE YOU ALL ON -- CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU. TO UPDATE ON INITIATIVE CASA, THIS INITIATIVE WOULD STRENGTHEN OUR ST. AUGUSTINE SENIOR COMMUNITY. COMPASSIONATE AGING ST. AUGUSTINE AT THE HEART OF OUR MISSION. ADDRESSING CRITICAL NEED OF THE SENIOR COMMUNITY. OUR GOAL IS TO FOSTER A VIBRANT COMMUNITY WHERE EVERY SENIOR FEELS VALUED, CONNECTED AND ENGAGED. THE IMPACT OF THIS PROGRAM WILL PROVIDE A VITAL OPPORTUNITY FOR INTELLECTUAL STIMULATION, EMOTIONAL SUPPORT AND LASTING FRIENDSHIPS. WE OFFER DIVERSE ACTIVITIES OFFERING ENRICHING EDUCATIONAL SESSIONS AND HOSTING ENGAGING SOCIAL EVENT. SOCIAL EVENTS. THE SURGEON GENERAL STATES THAT MEANING SOCIAL CONNECTIONS AND ENGAGING IN FOUNDATIONAL MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING IS THE BEST THING FOR OUR SENIORS. COMPASSIONATE ST. AUGUSTINE IS DESIGNED TO INVIGORATE THE LIVES OF OUR SENIORS AT THIS TIME TO KEEP THEM FROM BEING ISOLATED AND DEPRESSED. WE RECOGNIZE THAT TRANSPORTATION COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT BARRIER SO WE CAN PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION SO NO ONE WILL BE MISSING OUT. WE'RE DEDICATED TO ENSURING THE SENIORS IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE A CHANCE TO LIVE A FULL LIFE OF JOY AND DIGNITY AND WE'D LOVE TO SHARE ALL OF THE THINGS WE HAVE GOING ON WITH YOU AND APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT COME ON. >> GOOD MORNING. 188... AND I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE. WE'VE HAD A PROBLEM -- THEY PUT IN A MEDIUM STRIP WHEN THEY FALL FALL AIMED THE ROAD AND WE DO NOT HAVE A CROSSOVER. IT'S BEEN ONE OF THE EARLY STREETS FOR THE SHORES. IT WAS THERE FROM THE BEGINNING AND NOW WE HAVE TO GO DOWN THE STREET TO MAKE A LEFT AND A U-TURN BACK UP THE STREET COMING IN. TO MAKE A U-TURN. YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO THE LEFT WITHOUT MAKING A U-TURN. IT BECOMES VERY ANNOYING. IT BECOMES VERY TIME-CONSUMING. ALSO THE FACT THAT NOBODY WAS NOTIFIED AHEAD OF TIME THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. NOBODY ON THE STREET KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THEY JUST DID IT. THEY JUST CUT US OFF. AND PUT CROSSOVERS AND OTHER PLACES. THE ONE WE HAVE TWO USE IS CORTEZ. CORTEZ ONLY HAS ABOUT 20 SOMETHING HOUSE IS ON IT. THEY HAVE TWO OF THEM NOW. UNLESS WE GO WAY DOWN THE ROAD AND TAKE A LONG WAY AROUND TO MY HOUSE IS ABOUT AN EXTRA MILE AND THIS IS -- WE JUST DON'T FEEL THIS IS RIGHT FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON SEVILLA THAT'S 50 SOMETHING HOUSES. WE'VE BEEN THERE FOREVER AND NOW WE'VE BEEN CUT OFF. I KNOW THIS DOESN'T SOUND IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE BUT FOR US IT IS BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU LEAVE YOUR HOUSE AND YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE A LEFT IN ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER YOU'VE GOT TO GO TO A U-TURN AND DO IT THAT WAY. ALSO I FOUND -- I LOOKED IT UP ON GOOGLE MAPS. IT DOESN'T SHOW THE U-TURN ON THE MAP ANYMORE. IT JUST SHOWS THE REGULAR WAY WE USED TO GO IN, WE USED TO COME TO THE STREET AND TURNING. SINCE THEY PUT THE MEDIUM STRIP AND IT DOESN'T SHOW UP ANYMORE. I'VE HAD COMPANY COME IN -- TO GO PAST THEIR UP TO THE U-TURN AND COME BACK DOWN. [00:50:01] SO WE WOULD REALLY LIKE SOME HELP ON THIS AND -- I WANT TO THINK YOU WILL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT YOUR NAME. >> WHEN NIDA GATES. >> THANK YOU. NXT COMING UP. -- COME ON UP. >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING MYSELF AND CARE COMMUNITIES. INFORMAL INDEPENDENT ACTION GROUP -- UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES AND SHAKE -- ST. JOHNS COUNTY BY IDENTIFYING RESOURCES A LINKING THAT WITH COMMUNITY NEEDS. FOR QUITE SOME TIME CARE HAS BEEN ADVOCATING YOU TAKE A SENSIBLE BALANCED APPROACH TO GROWTH SEEKING TO SLOW DEVELOPMENT IS ST. JOHNS COUNTY. FIRST WE'VE ACKNOWLEDGED ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT IS LIKELY TO INVOLVE TRADE-OFFS GIVEN THE EXPLOSION OF GROWTH AND INCREASE IN POPULATION OVER THE LAST 15 OR 20 YEARS. GIVEN THE URGENT NEED FOR MORE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE IN AND WORK IN THE COUNTY CAN AFFORD WE URGE YOU TO USE THE LEVERAGE YOU HAVE WHEN YOU HAVE IT TO OBTAIN AS MUCH HOUSING AFFORDABLE TOUR WORKFORCE AT A RANGE OF INCOME LEVELS AS IS POSSIBLE. WHEN YOU ALLOW NEW DEVELOPMENTS PLEASE ENSURE THOSE PROVIDE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF HOUSING AT WORKFORCE LEVELS. IDEALLY INCLUDING AT LEAST A FEW MINUTES FOR THOSE VITAL WORKERS WHOSE HEALTH WILL THEN -- PLACE THEM IN THE INCOME CATEGORY. WE BELIEVE THE APPROACHES FEASIBLE AT ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOLLOWS THE TREND TOWARDS MORE DENSE, MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT IN AREAS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE. HOUSING AFFORDABLE TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN AND WORK IN THE COUNTY WILL BE GOOD FOR ALL OF US AND ALLEVIATE THE HEAVY STRAIN ON OUR ROADS AND IN OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES MANY OF WHOM ARE STRUGGLING TO MAINTAIN AN ADEQUATE STABLE WORKFORCE. IT WILL HELP SENIORS ON FIXED INCOMES INCREASINGLY SQUEEZED BY RISING RED, INSURANCE AT HOME REPAIR COST. THAT SAID IF YOU WANT ANY REALISTIC CHANCE OF BRINGING NEW BUSINESSES IN THE NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT -- THEIR WORKERS ARE GOING TO NEED HOUSING TOO. THE UPSHOT IS IF YOU MAKE TRADE-OFFS TO APPROVE ZONING AND CHANGES AND LOOKING FOR DENSITY BONUSES ON DEVELOPERS PLEASE ENSURE RESIDENTS WILL GET ENOUGH BANG FOR THE BUCK. ON AGENDA ITEM SIX WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CAME BEFORE YOU LAST AUGUST. WE WEREN'T STEEPED IN DETAILS BUT HAD REAL QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. WE DID NOT APPROVE IT. NOW THE DEVELOPER SEEKS TO BRING ITS PROPOSAL BACK APPARENTLY HAVING PRESENTED A PLAN TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNITS. WE SEE NO PLANT OF THE BACKUP MATERIALS SO WE ARE UNABLE TO EVALUATE BOTH -- THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUE. ALSO HAVING JUST BEEN LAST THURSDAY I CAN REPORT THE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA SEEMS WORSE ARE NOT BETTER THAT WAS LAST AUGUST. THE QUESTION T WAS SIMPLE. IS SCHEDULING A NEW REZONING HEARING WORTH IT? THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COME ON UP. GOOD MORNING. >> IN MORNING. SHERRY BADGER 2772 SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE. THIS IS ABOUT OVERGROWTH. WE ARE FIXING TO GO INTO A DROUGHT SITUATION AND EVERY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT Y'ALL APPROVE AS WELL POINTED. AND WHILE POINTED IS WHEN THEY ARE PUMPING OUT TO PUT THE PIPES IN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. OKAY? Y'ALL AREN'T GOVERNED TO STOP THEM FROM WELL POINTING WOULD PEOPLE'S WELLS BURN UP OR WHEN THEY GO DRY. THE COUNTY HAS NO AUTHORITY. THE ONLY AUTHORITY ANYONE HAS IS ST. JOHNS WATER MANAGEMENT WHICH IS THE UNELECTED BOARD, AN APPOINTED BOARD AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT GOVERN THE WATER IN THIS STATE. WHICH IS TOTALLY WRONG BECAUSE ONCE THEY GIVE A PERMIT THEY WILL NOT STOP PUMPING NO MATTER WHAT IT'S DOING TO ANYBODY. WHEN THEY START WELL POINTING IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS ADJACENT TO IT, WHAT IT DOES IS TAKE THE WATER TABLE DOWN. THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE A HIGH WATER TABLE THEIR PUMPS BURN UP. I KNOW A COUPLE OF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE. MAYBE ONE OF YOU MOST OF YOUR LIFE AND YOU KNOW THE DROUGHT WILL RETURN. BE CAUTIOUS. GOD BLESS. >> THANK YOU. ABOUT IT. -- COME ON OUT. AND MORNING. >> MY NAME IS MARY GRACE PICK I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT SAFETY CONCERNS, ABOUT PLACING THE MULTIUSE TRAIL ALONG A ONE A BEACH BOULEVARD. [00:55:05] AS YOU KNOW THIS OR DON'T KNOW WILL PRESENT MANY SAFETY HAZARDS. PRIOR STATIONS SEVEN LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF A1 A BEACH BOULEVARD AND ACCORDING TO PUBLIC RECORDS ACCESSING A1 H BOULEVARD IN 2024, 4450 TIMES. IN 2025 -- AND FROM JANUARY 1ST TO MARCH 31ST IT HAS BEEN CALLED OUT 1090 TIMES. EACH TIME IT HAS TO ACCESS A1 A BEACH BOULEVARD BEST CROSSING OF THE PATH IS APPROVED COMING IN CONFLICT WITHOUT TRAIL. THEREMIN TRANSPORTATION STUDIES SUCH AS THE FHWA HRT WHICH HAVE EVALUATED NUMEROUS TRAILS NATIONWIDE. AND THE MOST DANGEROUS POINTS OF CONFLICT OR WHERE THE TRAIL INTERSECTS WITH ACCESS POINTS SUCH AS DRIVEWAYS AND ROADS. AS YOU KNOW IN MY EMAILS ON PREVIOUS COMMENTS IN THE MEETING THERE'S 56 ACCESS POINTS. LIKE ABOUT THIS. 66 ACCESS POINTS PLUS A FIRE STATION LOCATED ON A ONE A BEACH BOULEVARD DOES NOT MAKE FOR A SAFE, RECREATIONAL ROUTE. IT MAKES FOR A HIKE COMPACT CONTACT RATHER ROADWAY. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE SUN TRAIL AT ALL. WHAT I'M OPPOSED TO OUR SAFETY HAZARDS THAT THIS WILL CREATE A LONG A1 A BEACH BOULEVARD. I KNOW ALL OF US ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF EVERYONE. NOT ONLY THE CYCLIST BUT THE PEDESTRIANS -- AND THE MOTORIST. I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO GIVE CONSIDERATE CONSIDERATION TO THE SAFETY OF ALL OF THE CITIZENS, RESIDENTS AND ANYONE WHO MIGHT HAVE TO USE THAT TRAIL. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME AND FOR TAKING ALL MY EMAILS. I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT. MORE WILL BE ON THE WAY. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE COME UP. THREE PODIUMS SO WE'RE READY TO GO. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. LET ME THANK YOU ALL FOR ISSUING YOUR PUBLIC FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY, MUCH APPRECIATED. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE RIVER -- 11922 -- AND OTHER PROPERTY AT 600 BEACH BOULEVARD -- BOULEVARD ON THE BEACHSIDE AUGUSTINE BEACH. CREATING A DANGEROUS CONDITION OF PUBLIC PROPERTY CREATED RISK OF SUBSTANTIAL INJURY. YOU'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE E-BIKE'S. I WALKED THE TRAIL, THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY EACH MORNING AND TALKED TO A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF RESIDENTS AND TOURISTS JUST UNDERSTAND THEIR PERSPECTIVE. THE FIRST THING I WOULD TELL YOU IS THERE HAS BEEN LACK OF COMMUNICATION. MANY RESIDENTS HAVE NOT HEARD, THEY'VE HEARD GENERALLY ABOUT THE TRAIL AND THE LOOP BUT HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT COMING THROUGH THE 3 MILES OF BEACH BOULEVARD. I MAKE A REQUEST THAT THERE BE MORE INFORMATION SHARED PUBLICLY. THAT IS ISSUE ONE. THE SECOND ISSUE DIRECTLY RELATES TO E-BIKE'S. THIS IS WHERE I THINK THE TRAIL WILL CREATE A SUBSTANTIAL RISK OF INJURY. NOT ONLY ARE THOSE BICYCLES SILENT SO TODAY THEY RIDE ON THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS, YOU CAN'T HEAR THEM. THEY ADD AN EXTRA ABOUT 30 POUNDS BECAUSE OF THE BATTERIES AND THE ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE OF THE BICYCLES. 30 MILES PER HOUR IS THE AVERAGE RATE THEY'RE GOING. THERE A HAZARD. THE FACT THAT THE TRAIL IS ABOUT 60% COMPLETE AND PLANNING THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY ROLES HOW PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS WILL SHARE THE 12TH FEET. WE REQUEST TO COME BACK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN AVAILABLE. WE'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL PUBLIC [01:00:01] MEETINGS HAD ASKED THE PLANNERS, WE'VE ASKED THE ENGINEERS. THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE. I'VE SEPARATELY REQUESTED WHERE IS THE SAFETY STUDY. IN THE RISK MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT LOIS HELPING TRACKED DOWN THE SAFETY STUDY AND WHILE SHE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SAFETY OF COUNTY EMPLOYEES, SHE'S TAKING IT ON HERSELF PERSONALLY TO HELP ME TRACK THE STUDY DOWN. HELPING WITH THAT AND MAKING IT AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE AS BOTH A RESIDENT AND SOMEBODY WHO WALKS THAT PATH, WE HAVE A RIGHT FOR SEE HOW WE WILL BE AFFECTED, HOW THE OTHER COMMUNITY RESIDENTS WILL BE AFFECTED, HOW TOURISTS WILL BE AFFECTED. A SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR BUDGET AND OUR TAX BASE AND WE TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY -- >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MY NAME IS LINDA. OCEAN GROVE CIRCLE. I SPOKE AT A MEETING ABOUT A MONTH AGO ABOUT THIS SUN TRAIL AND HOW I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT EVERYONE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT AN ISSUE OF NOT WANTING SOMETHING IN OUR BACKYARDS. IT'S AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT SAFETY CONCERN AS WELL AS BUSINESS INTERRUPTION. YOU'VE HEARD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT SAFETY. ONE PERSON CITED STUDIES. THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CITY OFFICIALS IS ANOTHER STUDY RECOMMENDED AGAINST MULTIUSE MEETING PEDESTRIAN IS THAT -- BICYCLE TRAILS AND CITY AREAS WHILE WE DON'T CONSIDER ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH AN URBAN AREA, IT ACTUALLY IS ABOUT AS CONGESTED AS ANY URBAN AREA YOU WILL SEE ANYWHERE. WE HAVE PEDESTRIANS HAD PEOPLE OUT ENJOYING IT BUT IT SIMPLY MAKES THIS TRAIL WITH THE 56 ACCESS POINTS AN EVEN MORE UNSAFE OPTION. FOR THIS RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY BELIEVE THE COUNTY OF THE CITY IN 2019, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WORLD. E-BIKE'S WEREN'T AROUND AND I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO SAY SINCE 2019 ARE AREAS GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY. AND THAT'S A GOOD THING BUT IT ALSO MEANS THE PATH DESIGNED SEVEN YEARS AGO MIGHT NOT BE APPROPRIATE IN THIS DAY FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS, THE TOURISTS AND EVERYONE INVOLVED. TO BE QUITE HONEST -- YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT SAFETY. I'D BE READY TO POUNCE BECAUSE I THINK ONE THING THAT CERTAIN IS THE TRAIL IS GOING TO HAVE AT SOME POINT AN ACCIDENT, TRAGEDY. HOPEFULLY I'M WRONG BUT I THINK IT'S BEEN AVOIDABLE WITH THE DENSITY OF THE SITUATION AT THE CURRENT PLAN IN OPERATION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE AT THIS TIME FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. 32084. I WANT TO REMIND YOU FOLKS YOU HAVE YOUR ELECTED OFFICIAL CAPACITY AND HUMAN BEING CAPACITY AND CITIZEN CAPACITY. YOU CAN SPEAK ON ISSUES ANYWHERE YOU WANT. SEPARATING YOUR IDENTITY AND THAT'S WHY TODAY I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO SUPPORT HORSELESS ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY ELECTRIC CARRIAGES PICK THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE HAS THE INFORMATION. NOT ALL OF IT BUT A LOT OF IT AND I KNOW THEY'RE CONTEMPLATING THE SWITCH AND BIG ON WANTING THEM TO SWITCH OVER. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PROBLEMS AS YOU KNOW AND HAVE SEEN ON THE NEWS ABOUT ONE HORSE COMPANY LOST THEIR LICENSE FOR ABUSE. IT WAS TERRIBLE. AS A WHOLE LOT MORE GOING ON DOWN THERE. THIS COMES OUT OF -- I WANT TO PUT THIS UP. ONE OF THE MANY CRIMINALS IN THE HORSE CARRIAGE MAFIA DOWNTOWN. ANYWAYS THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER THUGS OVER THERE TO. THEY LIKE TO SCARE LADIES AND THAT DON'T FLY WITH ME. BUT ANYWAYS HERE'S ANOTHER REALLY BAD HOME BY RIGHT HERE. HE JUST RECENTLY THOUGHT HE'D BE FUNNY AND SOME ADDRESSES OF THESE THREE ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL [01:05:03] BRAVE LADIES WHO'VE BEEN SPEAKING UP FOR THE HORSES. THE HORSES ARE ABUSED AND ALSO IT REMINDS ME THAT THE WORKSHOP OF VEHICLES FOR HIGHER -- I THINK IS THE FIRST DAY OF OUR BUDGET HEARINGS BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU'D LIKE THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE TO HAVE FOR THAT MAY 8TH WORKSHOP, AFTER THE WORKSHOP THINGS BECOME -- BUT ANYWAYS CAUTION. BECAUSE OF THE DROUGHT THE SMELL OF AMMONIA BY THE HORSES IS OVERWHELMING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW IT BUT PEOPLE ACTUALLY WERE OVERWHELMED BY THE SMELL RECENTLY DOWN THERE. BASICALLY FROM THE FORT TO SOUTH OF THE BRIDGE, OVERWHELMING. AND IT'S ALL AMMONIA SMELL. BABIES SHOULD DEFINITELY NOT BE THERE. ELDERLY AND IMMUNOCOMPROMISED. ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WITH ASTHMA. ALSO SPECIAL THANKS GOING ON TO MS. PATRICIA, MS. KATIE AND MS. HEATHER. THOSE ARE MY HEROES. THEY ARE STICKING UP FOR THE HORSES AND THERE'S SO MUCH BAD THINGS GOING ON WITH THE HORSES DOWN THERE. SO PLEASE PUT HORSELESS CARRIAGES. >> THANK YOU. NEXT COME ON UP. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS PAUL SIMPSON. I LIVE AT 445 OCEAN GROVE CIRCLE WHICH IS AT THE SOUTH END OF A1 A BEACH BOULEVARD. A LITTLE OF MY BACKGROUND, I WORKED FOR LOS ANGELES COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR 40 YEARS IN CALIFORNIA. NOT THAT THAT MATTERS BUT I WILL MIX IT IN HERE. I CURRENTLY OWN A BUSINESS A1 A BEACH VACATION RENTALS. BRINGING IN HUNDREDS OF GUESTS TO ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH. I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE SUN TRAIL. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA ON A1 A BEACH. I TRAVEL A ONE-DAY BEACH SEVERAL TIMES A DAY FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS I'VE RECORDED HOW MANY PEDESTRIANS, HOW MANY BIKERS, HOW MANY PEDESTRIANS. STROLLERS. E BIKERS. JOGGERS. THREE WHEEL BIKES. PEOPLE WITH CARTS, FISHING GEAR, SURFBOARDS. IT'S A BUSY AREA. PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT. AT ONE TIME YOU MAY HAVE 60 PEDESTRIANS AT ONE TIME JUST DRIVING UP THE STREET. AND MAYBE AVERAGE OF EIGHT BIKES, FIVE E-BIKE'S. SO BEING FROM CALIFORNIA AND A FIREMAN, WE HAVE THE SAME MULTIUSE CALLED AT THE STRAND -- HER MOST OF EACH, MANHATTAN THESE AREAS FROM AGE TEN TO 40 WE'D BE DOWN THERE RIDE OUR BIKES OR WALK AND IT'S REALLY STRESSFUL BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS THINKING THAT SOME BIKE IS GOING TO COME FLYING UP BEHIND YOU AND MOST PEDESTRIANS WALK TWO OR THREE ACROSS. YOU'VE SOME FRIENDS WITH YOU AND HERE COMES SOME BIKE SPEEDING IF YOU. IN HER MOST OF BEACH THERE'S AREAS YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY WALK YOUR BIKE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH CONGESTION AND THAT WOULD BE THE SAME ON A1 A BEACH DOWN BY A STREET. JUST THE WEEKENDS ARE CRAZY DOWN THERE. I PRINTED OUT SOMETHING A REGISTER NOW. TALKING TO SOME FRIENDS -- WHEN SOMETHING SLAMMED IN FROM BEHIND. HE TUMBLED OVER HANDLEBARS BREAKING A SHOULDER, FRACTURING HAS HAD BEEN LISTENING TO TEETH. A SPEEDING E-BIKE OR HIT HIM. THEY APOLOGIZED AND ADMITTED TO BEING DISTRACTED BEFORE WRITING OFF. JUST IMAGINE IF IT WAS A KID WHO GOT HIT. THE 58-YEAR-OLD DISABLED VETERAN WHO LIVES IN -- >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT. IF ANYONE ELSE IS PLANNING TO SPEAK IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME TO THE OTHER PODIUMS THAT WAY WHEN ONE PERSON IS DONE WE CAN MOVE RIGHT TO THE NEXT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD MORNING. >> MY NAME IS BETH PICCOLA BUT 461 OCEAN CIRCLE IN ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH. E-BIKE'S. THE SUN TRAIL WHERE NOT OPPOSED THE SUN TRAIL. [01:10:05] OTHER AREAS A GOES RIGHT DOWN A1. WERE NOT SURE WHY THEY CHOSE TO CHANGE THE DESIGN TO GO DOWN BEACH. IT'S VERY CROWDED. VERY CROWDED. WITH EVERYTHING YOU'VE HEARD HERE TODAY I HOPE YOU CONSIDER PUTTING IT ON AS AN AGENDA ITEM AT HEARING THE PEOPLE FROM THE LAKESHORES EARLIER -- WE ALSO FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN -- SOMEBODY SAID WE'RE LIKE THE REDHEADED STEPCHILD OF SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY. WE DON'T FEEL WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATED WITH OVER THIS. THE SO-CALLED OPEN HOUSE WE HAD AT THE LIBRARY WAS KNOW AND OPEN HOUSE. IT WAS NOT AN EXCHANGE OF IDEAS. THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AN YOU CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE SAFETY STUDIES. WE HAVE NOT SEEN A LOT OF THINGS. WE HAVE NOT BEEN CONTACTED. A LOT OF ROLES WERE NOT FOLLOWED. WE LIKE TO SEE THE STUDIES AND THE AGENDA ITEM. >> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE AT THIS TIME? GOOD MORNING. >> I WAS HERE ESPECIALLY FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6. THE ENCLAVE -- EVEN BACK IN 2016 IT WAS PAST 21 UNITS IT SOUNDED -- A BIG SUPPORTER OF THAT BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. THEY SOLD IT OFF AND CAME BACK UP TO 61 UNITS ON THE SAME PROPERTY AND IT GOT DENIED BY PCA AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN AUGUST 2025. IT WASN'T A PUBLIC ONE BUT I WAS NOTIFIED WITH A LETTER ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON AND WHAT CAME UP FOR THIS ONE. OF WHETHER THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO APPROVE IT OR NOT, IT'S LIKE TO A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARING BUT REALLY 2016 WAS 21 THE HOUSES OF THAT WAS FINE. GOT IT, WE UNDERSTAND. THE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY BECAUSE JUST DIRECTLY BESIDE IT -- THE ONE SHE SOLD FOR THE 2016 AND NOW THE PROPERTY SHE OWNS, SHE LIVES ON IS GOING TO BE BROUGHT UP WITH BY THE CHARTER SCHOOLS -- SCHOOLS USA. BASICALLY -- WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT IT IN 60,000 SQUARE-FOOT TWO-STORY OPTIC CAPACITY CAPACITY OF ALMOST A THOUSAND STUDENTS AND WHAT THE PERSONNEL WOULD BE ABOUT 1300 MAXIMUM CAPACITY RIGHT THERE DIRECTLY BESIDE. THAT'S COMING UP. WITH DRC THAT ONE OF THE ONE ON SOUTH FRANCIS WAS ONLY 160,000 SQUARE-FOOT. DOWN THAT LITTLE ROAD. AND THAT'S COMING UP. THAT'S IN THE EPICENTER OF OVERCROWDED DEVELOPMENT IN DISTRICT TWO. SINCE I LIVE RIGHT HERE DOWN THE ESTATES WE ARE VERY MUCH SQUEEZED OUT EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE BEEN THERE SINCE THE EARLY 80S IN THE FRONT PART OF IT HAD BEEN SINCE EARLY 1900S FROM ALL THE FORMING. I'M GLAD THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE AT THIS TIME? GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE COME ON UP. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE. FROM 9:30 TO 10:15 WE THE PUBLIC HAVE BEEN SPEAKING TO YOU ON THAT WORK FOR US. JUST OR MEMBER THAT FOLKS. THE HOMELESS ARE CAMPING ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR MAIN LIBRARY CLOSE TO RAILROAD TRACKS. [01:15:07] IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SHERIFF HAS BEEN CLEARING SUCH AREAS. HOPEFULLY THIS AREA CAN BE CHECKED WEEKLY. WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT ACROSS FROM OUR LIBRARY. AND PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE HEARD THIS BEFORE. CIGARS CAN BE SMOKED ON COUNTY BEACHES BUT NOT CIGARETTES. CAN SOMEONE TELL US HOW THE ENFORCEMENT OF THIS ORDINANCE HAS GONE SO FAR? HAVE WE FIND ANYBODY OR WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT? WE HAVE THAT CREATED AND NOW WE NEED TO FOLLOW UP TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT. BE CAREFUL WOULD VOTING FOR BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. BE CAREFUL WHEN VOTING FOR BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. ASKED QUESTIONS. ASKED QUESTIONS. PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD REMAIN BEFORE AGENDA ITEMS. PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD REMAIN BEFORE AGENDA ITEMS. AND THOSE WHO MAY BE HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN LISTENING TO THESE AGENDA ITEMS AND THE PRESENTATIONS AND NOW THE PUBLIC COMMENT NEED TO REMEMBER WE HAVE HAD ALL OF THESE PEOPLE TO WORK FOR US. TO WORK FOR US. SOMETIMES WE COME APPEARANCE A THINGS AND SOMETIMES IT'S RECOGNIZED LATER IN THE MEETING OR NOT AT ALL. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO IS JUST HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME, WATCHED THAT CLOCK WHENEVER IT GOES OUT AND MAKES NOISE YOU'VE STILL GOT SOME SECONDS. WE PAID FOR THOSE SECONDS. BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU COME UP HERE. AND SHARE YOUR CONCERNS AT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AND JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE -- THAT SEAL THE REASON I'M COMING TO THESE MEETINGS. I WISH -- NO I DON'T. I WANT TO STAY IN THIS CITY AND NOT IN THE COUNTY. NOTHING PERSONAL. BUT AS LONG AS WE PAY, WE GET TO SPEAK. THERE'S NINE SECONDS PICKED AS THEY WILL WHAT TO ASK ME ANYTHING? >> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? SEEING NINE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. THROUGH THE CHAIR I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. >> PLEASE DO. >> I WANT TO ADDRESS BECAUSE I NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE HERE ON THE SUN TRAIL. WE'VE HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR AND IT'S BEEN AT LEAST A MONTH NOW AND THAT'S AN AGENDA ITEM COMING UP. WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE BUT JUST KNOW THAT WILL BE A REGULAR GENERAL AGENDA ITEM FUTURE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING. WE'VE DEFINITELY HEARD YOU. >> YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> I HEARD A FEW PEOPLE WONDERING ABOUT THE PLANNING AND STUDIES THAT WENT INTO THE LOCATION OF PROPOSED TRAIL IN FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. I LEARNED YESTERDAY I THINK -- I HOPE I GOT THE NUMBER RIGHT BUT THERE'S A 249 PAGE STUDY THAT IS A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD. THROUGH THE CHAIR TO MS. ANDREWS, IS THERE A WAY WE COULD MAKE THAT 249 PAGE STUDY IN SOME WAY SHAPE OR FORM AVAILABLE THROUGH A WEBSITE. IS THERE ANY WAY TO MAKE THAT -- I KNOW A LOT OF PLANNERS BUT TIME AND EFFORT AND ENERGY AND EXPERTISE OF THE 249 PAGES AND IF THERE'S PERTINENT INFORMATION THAT COULD HELP EDUCATE NOT JUST THE CONDITION BUT THE PUBLIC, THAT COULD BE HELPFUL IN HAVING A PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION OF THE FUTURE. >> THERE'S MANY WAYS WE CAN SHARE THE INFORMATION. IT RANGES FROM PRESENTING THAT ON OUR WEBSITE AND ITS ENTIRETY BY LINK OR WE CAN CONDENSE IT TO PRESENT THIS PUBLICLY EVEN AT THIS FORUM. IT'S REALLY THE DESIRE -- AUTHORITY PUBLIC INFORMATION. >> IF WE COULD GET CONSENSUS TO HAVE MS. ANDREWS POST A LINK TO THE WEBSITE AND THEN THE SUN TRAIL FOLKS AND ANYONE INTERESTED IN ENGAGING IN INFORMED CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS, IT COULD BE HELPFUL. JUST ONE TOOL. >> I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA OF INCLUDING IT WHEN WE DO GET THE PRESENTATION TO HAVING SOME TYPE OF CONDENSED VERSION OF THAT. IF THAT COULD BE PART OF THE PRESENTATION. [1. Public Hearing * 2050 Comprehensive Plan - Adoption Hearing.] >> THANK YOU FOR THE DIRECTION. >> IF NOTHING ELSE WE WILL GO [01:20:03] STRAIGHT TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1. >> THANK YOU. MR. JACOB SMITH WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT HERE TO PRESENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1. THE ADOPTION HEARING FOR THE COUNTIES 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE WILL GO THROUGH BACK STORY FOR IT AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION OF THE BOARD. THE THING I WANT TO BRING TO THE FRONT IS THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS FOR BOTH THE BOARD AND THE COUNTY AS WE WORK THROUGH IT STARTING IN AUGUST OF 2023 AND WENT THROUGH NEARLY TWO YEARS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND MEETINGS. I WANT TO THANK THE PUBLIC, THE BOARD, STAFF, CONSULTANT PLACE MAKING FOR THE PROCESS BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT OUT OF IT -- LISTING AND ADJUSTING THE COMRADES OF PLAN -- WE ORIGINALLY TRANSMITTED THIS TO THE STATE IN JULY OF 2025. WE ENDED UP HITTING A ROADBLOCK SO THE STATE FOUND OUR PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS MORE RESTRICTIVE OR BURDENSOME. AND WE HAD TO ADJUST. WITH THE HELP OF OUR CONSULTANT INSPIRED PLACE MAKING WE ADJUSTED OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO REMOVE THE POLICIES DEEMED MORE RESTRICTIVE AND BURDENSOME WE WENT BACK AND RETRANSMITTED IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. THE PLAN BEFORE YOU NOW HAS A SIGN OFF FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA WE FOUND IT WAS ACCEPTABLE... WE'RE READY TO GO FORWARD AND ADOPT. I WILL POINT OUT THE 2050 PLAN PROVIDES A HOST -- REDEVELOPMEN. IT PRIORITIZES INFILL DEVELOPMENT. IT FOCUSES ON PRESERVATION. IT ESTABLISHES A RURAL AREA STRATEGY. AND MANY MORE THINGS. WE HAVE ADDITIONAL MISSING HOUSING AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROTECTIONS OR ENHANCEMENTS. AND EFFORTS TO EXPAND LAMP AS WELL ARE CODIFIED INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE NEXT STEPS HERE IF THE BOARD ADOPTS WE WILL SEND IT TO THE STATE FOR ADOPTION OTHERS A 45-DAY EFFECTIVE. AFTER 45 DAYS IT GOES INTO EFFECT AND THEN MY STAFF PLANS ON UPDATING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OVER THE NEXT YEAR AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW SO OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS IN SYNC WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ALL OF THAT BEING SAID I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. I ALSO HAVE CHRIS DOHERTY FROM ASK -- PLACE MAKING FOR DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? SEEING THEN LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. 101 GREEN WILLOW LANE. I'M TALKING A LITTLE BIT AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE A LITTLE BIT AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN. GREG BURKE WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE IN A .1. 4.5 ON LAND-USE THERE'S A COMMENT ABOUT THE TYPES OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT THE COUNTY IS ENCOURAGING DEVELOPMENT OF. SHE WANTED -- WANTED EVERYONE TO KNOW THERE'S AN EFFORT TO GET TRI-STATE AND QUADRA PLAQUES INCLUDED WITH DUPLEX WITH THE SAME STRATEGY AS A SINGLE-FAMILY BECAUSE THERE'S A HIGHER THRESHOLD WITH FIRE AND SPRINKLERS. IT DOES SAY AND OTHER TYPES. I WANTED TO BE SURE WE MENTIONED THAT. I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THE FARMLAND DIDN'T GET TAKEN OUT. AND THE 80% AMI IS THE THRESHOLD FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAPTAIN. THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD STUFF ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT DIDN'T GET CHANGED. THIS WAS MY FIRST CHANCE TO LOOK AT -- I DID MY OWN REDLINE WHICH WAS FUN. I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT OF VOTE THE NEW ITEM IN JAY THAT WE'VE GOT ATTRACTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA AND THERE'S A LOT OF COMMENTS IN THE SECTION -- ABOUT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND TO TRY TO ATTRACT HIGH WAGE PAYING JOBS TO OUR COUNTY. WE HAVE COURSE NEED TO GROW AND NEED OUR TAX BASE TO GROW AND TO DEVELOP IN THAT AREA WE NEED TO [01:25:06] STRENGTHEN TO GET OUT OF RELYING ON TOURISM. THERE'S NO MENTION AT ALL ABOUT THE HOUSE AND COMPONENT OF IT AND THAT WHOLE SECTION. THAT IN THE CHAMBERS MOST RECENT REPORTS WAS SOMETHING RELATED -- REALLY ADDRESSED. A LARGE DEFICIT OF HOUSING FOR PEOPLE SO I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN GO AND SAY WE'VE GOT A NEW COMMITTEE WERE TRYING TO ENTICE PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND LIVE BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE YOUR PEOPLE LIVE INTO VOLL COUNTY OR FLAGLER COUNTY. TO WORK HERE. IT'S NOT A SLAM ON ANYBODY'S OPINION. IS AN IDEA OF A MIND-SET THAT SAYS THAT IS PART OF ATTRACTING BUSINESS TO OUR COUNTY. THAT WE HAVE A STRATEGY TO GO FORWARD AND DO THOSE THINGS. THE LANGUAGE WAS NOT INCLUDED THERE BUT I THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT FACET OF INVITING TO THE AREA. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK. THANK YOU MR. DOUGHERTY. IT WAS A LONG SLOG BUT IT'S OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> IT'S ME AGAIN. STILL NANCY MURPHY. IT'S BEEN MY GREAT PLEASURE FOR THE MOST OF THE PAST FIVE YEARS TO GET TO SERVE AS A LIAISON BETWEEN COMPASSIONATE ST. AUGUSTINE WHICH IS THE FIRST COMPASSIONATE COMMUNITY IN FLORIDA AND THE 20TH IN THE WORLD AND I LIAISON WITH THE INTERNATIONAL CHARTER FOR COMPASSION. IT WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN 2009 IN THE INITIATIVE CONTINUES TO GROW AND GAIN MOMENTUM AROUND THE WORLD. WE'RE THE ONLY COMPASSIONATE CITY THAT HAS A LIAISON WITH THE -- INTERNATIONAL CHARTER AND AS PART OF THAT HAVE LIFTED UP THE COMPASSIONATE WORK HAPPENING IN ST. AUGUSTINE AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THIS MAKES US A WONDERFUL CANDIDATE TO BECOME A COMPASSIONATE COMMUNITY LIFTED UP AS SAME AS THE CITY HAS BEEN. AS PART OF THAT I'D LIKE TO SAY I'M EXCITED ABOUT COMPASSIONATE ST. AUGUSTINE'S DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR NEWEST INITIATIVE CASA AND I'D LIKE TO REMIND THE COMMISSIONERS WHO WERE SO KIND TO LISTEN TO ALL OF US PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT HOPEFULLY WILL ENRICH DECISION-MAKING THAT I C1 413 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY SEEKS TO THE COUNTY AND SHALL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT EFFORTS TO ASSIST SENIORS TO AGE IN PLACE ITEM A BYE PROMOTING INDEPENDENT LIVING INITIATIVES AND ENCOURAGING THE USE OF UNIVERSAL DESIGN STANDARDS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> GOOD MORNING. I STILL LIVE IN ST. AUGUSTINE -- REPRESENTING MYSELF AND CARE FOR EQUITY. REMAINING DISAPPOINTED DUE TO THE ILL CONSIDERED AS P180 THE STATE OBJECTED TO AN REMOVER MODIFIED MANY PROVISIONS OF THE PROPOSED UPDATED PLAN. THE COMMUNITY WORKED SO HARD ON FOR TWO YEARS. WE INTEND TO HOLD YOU TO THE COMMITMENT TO RESTORE PROVISIONS OF OUR RECENTLY TRANSMITTED COMRADES OF PLAN UPDATED SOON AS THE AS B180 IMPEDIMENTS ARE REMOVED. THE PROJECT OF THE UPDATED CONTENT PLAN -- AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK STILL NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. AND INCREASE. THE MANAGEMENT TO REVISE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPROVED COUPLE HAS A PLAN WE URGE YOU TO USE WHAT REMAINS OF THE UPDATE TO BUILDING MEANINGFUL INCENTIVES FOR DEVELOPERS WHO PROVIDE SIGNIFICANT HOUSING AFFORDABLE TO BUYERS AT LOW, VERY LOW IN EXTREME LOW INCOME LEVELS. IN THIS REGARD PLEASE NOTE IF YOUR MEETINGS ON JULY 22ND AND AUGUST 19TH 2025 FLAGGED ARE CONCERNED THAT THE OPTIONAL DENSITY BONUSES LAID OUT IN THE UPDATED PLAN WILL PROVIDE WITH AN EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR BUILDING HOUSING STOCK AVAILABLE TO THOSE LOWER INCOME LEVELS. WORKERS ARE THE TABLE AT PAGE 34 OF THE LAND-USE ELEMENT STILL LUMPS EVERYTHING TOGETHER SUGGESTING ANY DEVELOPER WHO PROVIDES EITHER AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE OR MISSING HOUSING MAY BE ENTITLED TO A DENSITY BONUS OF 100% IF THE LAND OWNED A OR B [01:30:05] -- AFFORDABLE HOUSING WILL RANGE FROM BELOW 30% ALL THE WAY UP TO 120%. GUESS WHAT LEVEL THE DEVELOPERS VIRTUES THERE BY MAKING HOMES MORE AFFORDABLE. OF SLOW GROWTH TIME, WE SEE NO GOOD REASON TO INCENTIVIZE USIN HOUSING IN AND OF ITSELF. THE HOUSE HE WOULD NEED FOR OUR SERVICE WORKERS AND TEACHERS AN FIRST RESPONDERS SO THEY CAN LIVE HERE BY THE COUNTY NEEDS A MORE SOPHISTICATED GROWTH AND DENSITY BONUSES, FIND WAYS TO GET AS LOWER INCOME LEVELS REQUIRES A MORE DETAILED MATRIX TO ENSURE THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A BIGGER BONUS. THE AMENDED CODE ENSURES THE DENSITY BONUSES ARE AFFECTED TO INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND CARE STANDS READY TO ASSIST IN THIS REGARD. THANK YOU. >> 32085 HAD A LOT OF THINKING FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU PUT INTO ALL OF THIS. UP AND DOWN THE STATE IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY'S COMPREHENSION PLAN IS GETTING REJECTED. AND I BELIEVE SAINT AUGUSTINE HAD THEIRS REJECTED AS WELL. I WANTED TO MENTION, I WANT TO THANK THAT LADY THAT SPOKE A LO ABOUT COMPASSIONATE SAINT AUGUSTINE AND I HOPE THAT COMPASSIONATE SAINT AUGUSTINE -- ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE TIME ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1. >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >> I HAVE A QUESTION AND PROBABLY COULD HAVE ASKED THAT WHEN YOU ARE STANDING AT THE BOARD. WE HEARD A PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT SP180 AND WE HAD A LOT OF ROBUS COMMENTS ABOUT THAT IN JANUARY WE CAME UP WITH A PLAN BUT THE SKIN OF OUR TEETH. WITH ANY WORK DONE BY THE LEGISLATURE TO CORRECT OR REPAI SP180. >> NO. IT DID NOT PASS SO SENATE BILL 180 RETAINS IN ITS CONFIGURATION . MR. SMITH THEM I THINK WE DODGE A BULLET. AND I'M HAPPY DID TRANSMIT WHAT WE DID. IT SET US BACK QUITE A BIT SO I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION. >> I JUST WANT TO ASK BEFORE YO GO, LET ME RECOGNIZE -- EXPECTS THAT PUBLIC WAS INVOLVE IN THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT. CHRIS, YOU DID A GOOD JOB. JOY, YOU SET IT UP AND GOT IT T WHERE WE ALL AGREE 50 OF WHAT W ORIGINALLY SAID. IT SHOWS THE LOSS OF THE PUBLIC AND WHAT THEY WANTED AND I THIN THIS BOARD SHOULD BE PROUD THAT WE GOT TOGETHER AND WE SENT THE STATE THE RIGHT THING AND THAT HIS WIFE THERE ARE NO BLOOMSDAY BECAUSE WERE GETTING WATERED DOWN SO MAYBE ONE DAY WE CAN LOOK AT IT AGAIN. THAT IS ALL. MY ONLY COMMENT. >> I WOULD ASK A QUESTION BEFOR YOU GO. SENATE BILL 180 IS GOING TO SUNSET IN 2027 NEXT YEAR. OCTOBER 1 IT'S GOING TO SUNSET . SO IN OCTOBER 2 WE CAN BRING OU ORIGINAL CONTENT BACK. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. I'M SORRY. OCTOBER 1, 27, THAT IS A WAYS AWAY. THAT'S TWO HURRICANE SEASONS THERE ARE NUMBER OF COUNTIES IN OUR STATE THAT ARE NOT SUBMITTING THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. [01:35:02] THERE HOLDING OFF. JUST SAW THE TIMELINE AND ALL O THE WORK UP THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ONE THING THAT'S NOT BEEN MENTIONED IS THE MONEY. WE HAVE SPENT OVER HALF MILLION DOLLARS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE ARE NOT SUBMITTING WHAT A WASTE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS. I DO NOT SUPPORT SUBMITTING IT AT THIS TIME. OUR NEIGHBORS IN THE COUNTY ARE CHOOSING TO WAIT AND THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY NOT SUBMITTING SO THINK WE SHOULD DO THE SAME. >> THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? >> I WANT TO MENTION, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, WITHOUT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN -- [INDISCERNIBLE] I THINK WE HAVE TO UPDATE AT BIDS. >> WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT WE CAN UPDATE THE STATE REQUIREMENTS BUT NOT SUBMIT THIS ONE, THIS WATERED-DOWN VERSION. >> I'M NOT SURE THAT IS ACCURATE . ETHICALLY HAVE TO HAVE A NEW ON AND IT HAS TO BE UPDATED. HOURS IS DATED 2025. I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT TH CONFERENCE A PLAN. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> A SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. PUT IT TO VOTE. [2. Public Hearing * MAJMOD 2025-10 WBL End Parcels. ] AND THAT PASSES 3-2. THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET'S GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. BEFORE YOU START WE HAVE SOME DISCLOSURES. >> I'VE RECEIVED OVER 36 E-MAIL ABOUT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> THIRTY PLUS E-MAILS ABOUT TH APPLICANT MEETING WITH THEM A START IF PRONOUNCE THIS GROUND, -- AND THE TEAM MEETING WITH MORRI MAPLE AND TEAM. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. WHITEHURST YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I HAVE A 39 E-MAILS. THE APPLICANT AND STAFF IN THE OFFICE, BUT MR. MAPLE AND OUR STAFF HERE IN THE OFFICE. THAT CONCLUDES MY NOTES. >> I'VE RECEIVED OVER 50 E-MAILS , MEETING WITH JAMES WHITEHOUSE AND JAMES CARLSON AN STAFF. >> I HAD 36 PLUS E-MAILS AND I HAD A MEETING WITH JAMES WHITEHURST AND APPLICANT. THE PRESERVATION ASSOCIATION STAFF, WHO ARE PRO AND STAFF. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THESE TW PARCELS AND IS AS YOU RECALL, W WERE BACK BEFORE YOU ON MARCH 3 WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS TO YOU. WE SPOKE ABOUT THE SONY AGENCY AND RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF THIS MODIFICATION TO ORDINANCE 198511, WHICH WAS PIRATES VIEW AND WAS AMENDED MANY TIMES WITH ADJUSTMENTS OVE THE LAST 40 YEARS. THESE ARE THE TWO PARCELS. I'M GOING TO GO QUICK BECAUSE W DID ABOUT FULL PRESENTATION LAS TIME AND WE CAME TO ONE FINAL ISSUE NEAR TALKING ABOUT BEING RESOLVED AND LET ME GO THROUGH IT REAL QUICK BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT. THESE ARE THE TWO PARCELS THAT IS KNOWN AS THE SARANAC BEACH CLUB AND COME AGAIN, IT WAS FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE PIRATES LANDING UNIT AND WAS FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT USES AND THIS IS IN RESIDENTIAL D FUTURE LAND USE. THERE ARE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS WITH IN THIS PUD THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME. BEACH CONDOS ON THE WESTSIDE AN OCEAN CONDOS ON THE EAST SIDE AND YOU HAVE THE CLOUD, WHICH I IN THE MIDDLE WHICH INCLUDES PARKING AND THEN YOU HAVE A PARCEL AS WELL AS THESE TWO PARCELS ON THE END AND WE WERE [01:40:04] THE LAST TO UNDEVELOPED ONES OR WHEN I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TH DIFFERENT USES CURRENTLY IN THI TIME WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE AND I'M GOING TO JUMP FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION ON THESE TWO PARCELS. OF COURSE THIS REQUEST IS TO GRANT THE COUPLE OF PORTIONS OF LAND TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS WHICH HAS BEEN ADVOCATED BY NUMBER OF PEOPLE PARTICULARLY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD NO ACCESS TO THE BEACH AREA THAT'S BEEN ADVOCATED BY THE COUNTY STRENUOUSLY BECAUSE IT NOT ONLY DOES ALLOW PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS WITHIN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT ALSO ALLOWS MONEY TO BE SOUGHT UP AND DOWN OUR COAST AN THIS IS IN TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THOSE SECTORS AS HE HEARD ABOUT LAST TIME, WHICH IS WHY WE TALKED ABOUT THE SOUTHER SECTION AND GOING BACK WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS AN ABILITY TO GRANT SOME OF THAT FOR THE COUNTY USE PIERCE I'M GOING TO JUMP FORWARD TO THAT REAL QUICK BECAUSE WE HAVE MET WITH COUNTY SINCE THAT LAST MEETING AND WE HAVE COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING AND AGREEMENT THAT THE AMOUNT O SPACE WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE SOUTHERN AND, AGAIN THE NORTHER END PIECES LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, ON THE SOUTHERN END WE TALKED ABOUT IT INITIALLY CAME UP JUST PRIOR TO THE PZA AND WA PROBABLY IN DISCUSSIONS WITH TH MEDICATION OF THIS PROJECT FOR YEAR AND HALF AN APPLICATION WA FILED ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND WHEN WE GOT RIGHT BEFORE PZA, ALTHOUGH WE ALREADY AGREED TO GIVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY ON THE NORTHERN AND FOR PARKING WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION BY THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY, THEY ARE LENDERS THEY ARE NOT DEVELOPERS AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, WHEN TH BEACH CLUB WENT BELLY UP THROUG COURT PROCEEDINGS AND SO THEY ARE PREPARED TO GIVE THOSE COME A VERY LARGE SECTION OF THE NORTH AS WELL AS FACILITIES TO THE COUNTY AND NOW THEY ARE PREPARED AS I SAID, WHICH CAME UP PRIOR TO PZA TO GIVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF THE SOUTH END AS WELL BECAUSE WHEN WE MET WITH COUNTY STAFF AND AS YOU HEARD LAST TIME , THAT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY HELP THE COUNTY AND SEEKING FUNDS WET THIS TIME, AGAIN, NOT TO BELABOR THE ISSUE BECAUSE THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS WILL ALLOW ACCESS ON BOTH ENDS AND THIS WILL ALLOW THE COUNTY TO RECEIV IN FEE SIMPLE A LARGE AMOUNT OF LAND ON NORTHERN AND AND A LARG AMOUNT ON THE SOUTHERN AND, 85 FEET AS WHAT WE CAME TO AND THAT IS APPROPRIATE TO WORK TO ALLOW THE COUNTY TO SEEK THESE FUNDS AS WELL AS TO ALLOW BEACH ACCESS AND WHICH PROMOTES AND FURTHERS THE GOALS AND POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WE JUST ASK FOR THIS TO GIVE REASONABLE CONSIDERATION WHEN I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >> LET'S GO STRAIGHT TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING TU. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO MY CONCERNS. AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GOING T HEAR THROUGH THESE COMMENTS THE CUT, CONCERNS AND BASICALLY THI IS A BAD IDEA. >> CAN YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE BEAR. >> BUILD ALL. I DO LIVE IN THE SERA NOT ALL, 522. THAT A LOT OF THIS CONCERN MAY BE SELF-SERVING BUT CENTRAL, IT'S THE SAFETY ISSUES AND TRAFFIC AND EGRESS. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONGESTION. THIS PROBABLY ABOUT 20 PARKING SPOTS HE YOU TALK ABOUT TEN CAR FOR EACH SPOT SO YOU HAVE 100 TRIPS ON THE ROAD AND YOU'VE GO THE LIGHTING ISSUE YOU HAVE LIABILITIES IF YOU HAVE LIGHTIN IT IS AN ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE FO TRANSIENTS COMING AND GOING. AND THERE ARE AREAS FOR ACCESS TO THAT YOU WANT TO CREATE MORE ACCESS TO THE BEACH, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU UTILIZE THE EXISTING AREAS. YOU'VE GOT QUITE A BIT OF PARKING AT THE 2700 BLOCK ACROS FROM THE EXXON STATION AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND PARKING AT THE ACCESSES OR EVEN ADD ADDITIONAL ACCESS AND YOU'V HEARD ABOUT THE BIKES. THIS GOING TO BE EBAGS AND MANY [01:45:02] MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION FOR PEOPLE COMING IN AND TRYING TO UTILIZE THE SPACE. SO WITH THAT CONGESTION YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOWER THE SPEE LIMIT PAID YOU TAKE IT OFF THAT TAX ROLL AND THEN I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES , OTHER AREAS WE CAN ADD ACCESS AND THEN THE OPPORTUNITY. I HAVE NO OBJECTION OF PEOPLE GOING TO THE BEACH BUT I JUST WANT THEM TO BE SAFE THAN TO HAVE A CONDUCIVE ENVIRONMENT FO EVERYBODY AROUND THEM. THERE IS SOME ACCESS JUST TO TH NORTH OF THIS EXISTING OR PEOPL CAN COME AND GO AS THEY PLEASE. I DON'T SEE THIS MAKING SENSE AND I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE THE COMMON THEME AND I THANK YO FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT. , NOT. >> GOOD MORNING. >> HOW ARE YOU. >> GOOD. >> I WILL TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF SINCE WE HAVE ALREADY GOT OVER LOT OF THIS IN THE PAST. ONE OF THINGS I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS WHEN WE SUBMITTED SOME OF OUR E-MAILS T YOU, WE ALSO INCLUDED A PETITIO PAID BUT DIDN'T GO OUT TO A HUG AUDIENCE THAT WAS SET UP TO 225 PEOPLE. READ A 90% RESPONSE RATE ALL POSITIVE. WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS APPROVED AND CHANGE SO AS YOU ADD THOSE NUMBERS INTO YOUR E-MAILS, ADD ANOTHER 205 DID IT BECAUSE THAT IS BIG. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE WORKED OUT. WE GOT OUR I'S AND CROSS OUR T' AND GET THE MATCHING FRONDS FRO -- ONE HEARING IS TO THE TUNE OF $16 MILLION IN MATCHING FUNDS S I WOULD HATE TO CS LOSE THAT TO SO THAT I HOPE THIS MEETS WITH YOUR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE AT THIS TIME? >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING MISSIONARIES, GUY RASH, FULL-TIME RESIDENT AN ALSO CURRENT RESIDENT OF THE PRESERVATION ASSOCIATION. JUST SO WE COULD BE LOOKING AT THE SAME THING AT THE SAME TIME THIS IS THE NORTH PARCEL. BUT WE SHALL HEAR ON COUNTY PUBLIC ACCESS PART IS A PARKING SPOT DESIGN PLAN AND THAT HAS BEEN DONE BY THE APPLICANTS TO MAXIMIZE CABLE WE NEED 20 PARKING PLACES. THE NORTH PARCEL LAWN THAT THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING FOR IS A 9 TO THE STANDARD LOT SIZE OF 75 FEET. AND 85 FEET. YOU GET TEN MORE FEET AND ASKED MORE LIKELY WHAT WE NEED 420 SO IT ASKED THAT THE COMMISSIONERS TALK WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT GETTING THIS BACK ABOUT TEN MOR FEET ON THE NORTH SIDE AND SAY 85, 11 FEET. ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THAT IS THE LAYOUT. THAT WAS INITIALLY OFFERED IN THAT REPRESENTS THE COMPROMISE THAT THE APPLICANTS DECIDED WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. THEY END UP GETTING 160 FEET TO BUILD A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME ON THE AVERAGE SIZE OF A LOT, NOT SURE WHY BUT IF HE WOULD GET BACK PART OF THAT, LET'S SAY MAYBE 100, THERE WOULD BE A LOT MORE BUFFER WE PUT AND WITH 145 FEET, NOT ENOUGH FOR A PARKING SPOT HERE BUT PLENTY ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO BRING TROLLEYS ON AND OFF IN THAT ARE AND IS NECESSARY TO GET IN AND OUT PERIODS SO WHILE WE ARE NOT A POST OF THIS PLANET ALL, ONE MAKE SURE THAT IS CLEAR AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD A HOME IN EACH OF THESE LAWNS. LIKE COUNTY SHOULD TRY TO USE THEIR LIMIT FOR THE COUNTY AND PUBLIC USE RATHER THAN PRIVATE USE, ESPECIALLY THE SOUTH THEN, 160 FEET JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE BUT YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD ABOUT A 20, 22- FOOT WIDE EAST AND WEST DIRECTION SO I REALLY GOING TO BUILD A 150-FOOT LONG HOUSE. IT IS ALL FOR BUFFER. I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT WE CAN SETTLE THE BUFFER IN PLENTY OF SPACE, SO I'VE PUT ASKED THAT YOU DISCUSS WITH THE APPLICANT THE POSSIBILITY OF GRANTING A LITTLE BIT MORE LAND TO MAKE THIS MORE VIABLE AND IT IS ALL ABOUT FEDERAL COST SHARE. [01:50:03] WERE LOOKING AT THE TOTAL OF ABOUT 17 MAIN DOLLARS AND POSSIBLE LOSS AND FEDERAL COST SHARE WILL GET MOST OF IT ON TH NORTH END BUT WE ARE STILL ABOU $8 MILLION SHORT IF WE CAN'T GE ENOUGH ON THE SOUTH END FROM TH CSR PROJECT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS AT THIS TIME FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBE TWO. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING I'M BILL RILEY, 240 NORTH THEY ARE NOT A DRIVE AND I'M REPRESENTING MYSELF AS WELL AS OUR CONDO ASSOCIATIONS. OVER THE LAST HUMANS I'VE SENT E-MAILS AND SPOKEN HERE AS WELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO COVER ANYTHING NEW HERE PRETTY JUST WANT TO REITERATE OUR DESIRE FO SOMETHING TO BE DONE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINES IN THE FORM OF A WE'RE YOU ORAL WALL FOR PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE USING THE PARKING LOT ALONG THE SOUTH AND AND FRO ACCESSING THOUGH THEY ARE RIGHT PAST THE BORDER ON NORTH AND SOUTH AND WE'VE HAD ACTUALLY SEVERAL INCIDENTS IN THE PAST WITH PEOPLE TRESPASSING AND OFTEN TIMES IT'S A TYPICAL TEENAGER HAVING A FEW BEVERAGES ON THE BEACH AND THEY COME OFF THE BEACH. THEY THINK I CAN CLIMB THAT FENCE AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE IS CONCRETE. WE REALLY HAVE A FEAR THAT SOMEBODY'S GOING TO DO THAT AND SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE INJURY WITH THIS PARKING LOT. CRACKED THEIR SCHOLAR DROWNED I THE POOL OR WHATEVER SO THE HOLOCAUST UP THIS PROJECT ON TH NORTH AND SOUTH AND, IT JUST PALES IN COMPARISON TO THE WHOL SCHEME OF THINGS. WITH RESPECT TO EXPENSES, I'VE NOT HEARD ANY RESPONSES ON THAT AND WHETHER YOU'RE CONSIDERING IT OR NOT CONSIDERING IT BUT WE FEEL IT IS IMPORTANT, ESPECIALL TO BE PROACTIVE IN THIS CASE RATHER THAN REACTIVE AND THERE' BEEN TOO MANY ACCIDENTS BECAUSE PROACTIVE MEASURES ARE MITIGATING SAFETY AND SECURITY SERMONS WHETHER WE WAIT TO REACT . AND THE OTHER TWO ISSUES THAT W BROUGHT UP, NO MATTER WHAT SIDE YOU ARE ON A REZONING ISSUE HERE , ADDING THREE MORE ENTRY POINTS AS A RESULT OF THIS PROJECT IS A SLOW-MOVING ENTRY AND ACCEPT POINT. OF YOUR EFFORT TRIED TO COME OU OF THE BEACH CLUB IN THAT AREA AT RUSH HOUR OR ON A BUSY WEEKEND, IT IS A NIGHTMARE ALREADY AT IT IS CONTRAPTION TRYING TO GET OUT OF THERE AND NOT CAUSE AN ACCIDENT. AGAIN, WE JUST ASKED HIM TO BE PROACTIVE NOT REACTIVE. LET'S NOT WAIT UNTIL SOMEBODY'S LIFE'S LOSS OUT OF THERE OR OTHER TRAFFIC CONTROLS -- LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT IN ADVANCE IF YOU POSSIBLY CAN AND THE OTHER THING IS BEACH PARKIN STREET PARKING. I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY HAS BEEN O OVER THE LAST WEEK AND BUT LOOK LIKE IT WAS A HOLIDAY WEEKEND. CARS ALL OVER THE STREET BECAUS THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH PARKING. AND A CURVED AREA FOR WE ARE AT THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR PROBLEM I THAT HAPPENS. WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU A QUESTION. YOU ARE THE HEADS HEAD OF THE BEACH CLUB. >> I WAS THE ONLY ONE ENOUGH TO DO IT. WHAT I WAS WONDERING IS IF THES THINGS ARE OPENING UP, WHY DON' YOU LET EVERYONE GO THROUGH THE CLUB TO THE BEACH LIKE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE. >> THAT CLUB IS PRIVATELY OWNED. >> WASN'T THERE TUNNELED TO GO TO THE BEACH THERE WAS ONE FROM GRAND OVER TO THE BEACH CLUB. THE ORIGINAL MODEL WAS ACROSS THE STREET AND UTILIZE THE BEAC CLUB. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. >> HELLO. I AM DAVID LUNDY NO I WOULD JUS LIKE TO MAKE TWO COMMENTS SO FAR . I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ARE FAMILIA BUT I LIKE TO SEE REINFORCEMENT OF THE RULES WERE TALKING ABOUT PARKING SPOTS AND WHAT WE HAVE [01:55:02] RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE EXXON STATION AND THAT THE FIRE STATION WHERE THOSE POINTS ARE NOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN CARS PARKED ON EITHER SIDE IN THIS SATURDAY THERE ARE AT LEAST CAR PARKED ALONG ONE A THERE AND WE HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT THERE WITHOUT ANY, ANYONE PROVIDING ANY KIND OF SAFETY OR APPLYING THE RULES APPROPRIATELY, SO I THINK THERE OUGHT TO BE ENFORCEMENT OF THE RULES AND WHATEVER WE DO CAN I DO SUPPORT AXES TO THE BEACH. THEY SHOULD BE 20 SPOTS PLUS 60 PEOPLE ACROSS THE ROAD. THE OTHER HAND LIKE TO SAY IS THAT BELIEVE THE SPEED LIMIT THAT IS AN AREA IS 50 MILES AN HOUR AND I THINK IT HAS TO BE TAKEN DOWN. IT'S FAR TOO FAST FOR PEOPLE TO BE PULLING OFF THE ROAD AND CHILDREN TO BE GETTING OUT OF CARS SO I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT SOME KIND OF ADJUSTMENT AND LOWERING FROM 50 MILES AN HOUR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. LAWRENCE MAPLE 215 OCEAN GRAND. I WANT TO JUST EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR AND FOR ME AND SEVERAL OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND ALSO BY IMPROVING THIS COMING YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE OCEAN GRAND BEACH ACCESS, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE NOW WE ARE THE ONLY COMMUNITY ALONG THE WHOLE CORRIDOR FROM THE FIR STATION OF THE BEACH THAT DOES NOT HAVE IT PAID WE APPROACH TH VILLAS AND BECAUSE OF LIABILITY WE -- THOSE ARE JUST THINGS THAT ARE AGAINST IT. AND I THINK THEY WILL GET MATCHING FUNDS THE TUNE OF SOME $60 MILLION. THAT DON'T IMPROVE THIS, THAT WILL GO BACK THE TAXPAYERS OF THE COUNTY. GOOD MORNING. I'VE JUST GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS . UP WHICH LINK THEY WERE GOING T PUT PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE O SARAH AND OTTO AND THEN THE BOARD I THINK MADE NOT DEMAND BUT A REQUEST ON THE SOUTH SIDE. OF SERANADA. THEY DIDN'T THINK THERE WASN'T ENOUGH ROOM FOR WHAT YOU ARE ASKING BUT HE WENT BACK TO THE ENGINEERS LIKE AS THEY MUST'VE WORKED SOMETHING OUT WHERE THER IS ROOM. HOW TO GO FROM ONE PARKING LOT TO TWO PARKING LOTS WOULD BE MY ONE QUESTION. THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE. POWER WAS NOT AVAILABLE FOR US TO LOOK AFTER THERE'S BEEN MANY ACCIDENTS. EVERY YOUNG KID GOT HIT ON HIS BICYCLE AND I WANT TO SAY THAT WAS THROUGH THIS FOUR YEARS AGO THERE WAS A METALLIC THE ACCIDENT WHICH IS KIND OF ACROS THE STREET ON THE SOUTH LOT. I TALKED TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND GOT THEIR VIEWS ON THE SAFETY BECAUSE OF THE PARKING LOTS AND THERE'S BEEN PLENTY OF ACCIDENTS AND PEOPLE GETTING HI BY CARS, 50 MILES AN HOUR'S WAY TOO FAST IF YOU'RE COMING SOUTH IF YOU'RE GOING NORTH, EVERYBOD IS MOVING AND WHEN THEY POST THEIR SIGN AT 50 MILES AN HOUR, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE SEE 50, THEY SEE 60. AT THINK IT'S VERY DANGEROUS TH GENTLEMAN BROUGHT UP ALL THE CARS PARKED ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD. THERE IS. NO PARKING SIGNS, THEY MEAN NOTHING. SOMEBODY DOES HAVE TO ENFORCE THOSE THAT ARE WORK I SEE THE TRAFFIC STUDY AT. >> TO THE CHAIR. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE [02:00:01] COMPLETED BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE GENE MARCO COME UP AND ADDRESS THAT AS WELL AS ANY OTHER COMMENTS. >> I AM ALL FOR THE NORTHERN ACCESS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. FROM THE TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS MY AREA OF EXPERTISE. MY AREA IS TO PROTECT THE BEACH AND THAT IS HOW WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS AND TO HELP WITH THE -- AND THAT IS WHAT WE WERE LOOKIN FOR, THE LOTS TO PROVIDE AXES THAT WOULD HELP US WITH THAT. I CAN SPEAK TO THE TRAFFIC AS WELL. >> CAN YOU CLARIFY PUBLIC ACCES IN THAT AREA QUICK. >> OUT THERE IS LIMITED PUBLIC ACCESS, NOT JUST THE ABILITY TO WALK TO THE BEACH WE TALKED ABOUT FEDERAL AND STATE CAUTIONS . YOU HAVE TO BE TO GET PEOPLE TO THE BEACH THAT THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAN GO THERE AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE TWO LOTS, THEY AR IN TWO DIFFERENT PROJECT AREAS. THE SOUTH IS ONE THAT IS ALREAD IN PLACE AND SO THE FEDS AND TH STATE COMMAND AND PROVIDE THAT. ANYONE ELSE. >> THERE'S NO PARKING LOT ON TH SOUTH NO FUNDING AND NO ROOM. SO WHAT WERE TRYING TO DO IS GE A TROLLEY STOP HERE SO HE COULDN'T CAN BRING PEOPLE THAT DON'T DRIVE TO THE BEACH AND GIVE THEM ACCESS. THAT IS ENOUGH SPACE, SOME KIND OF A TROLLEY LANDING AND THEN THEY WALK OVER. ONE MORE QUESTION. YOU WERE ARE TALKING ABOUT OFFENSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO PLANT OFFENSE AT THIS. MIKE, DO WE. AS FAR AS THE REASON WE HAVE FOLLOWED LARGER AREAS TO GET TH BUFFER SO THIS HAS BEEN A MOST INTERESTING PING-PONG MATCH I'V EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN. WE'VE GOT BOTH SIDES AND WE THINK THIS IS AN ISSUE AND THE STAFF IS GOOD WITH THAT. >> LET ME JUST ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION. EVERY TIME YOU'VE COME UP HERE, I'VE ASKED YOU FOR SOMETHING MORE. MY QUESTION IS DO YOU THINK OWNERS WOULD CONSIDER ANOTHER 1. >> THE PROBLEM IS I HEAR THE TERMS GET BACK COMING GETTING BACK LAND. WE ARE A PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHT COUNTRY WE ARE. AND THIS IS A PUD FOR WE SHOWED UP YEAR AND A HALF AGO AND STARTED TALKING FROM A NON- DEVELOPER TRYING TO DO TWO SINGLE-FAMILY COMPATIBLE LOTS AND IN THE PROCESS INITIALLY, W WERE TOLD BY THE COUNTY STAFF THAT THERE WAS NO PUBLIC PARKIN REQUIRED ON EITHER OF THESE LOTS . IT'S CLEAR AND THEY LAY OUT THE LANGUAGE WITH YOU, CRYSTAL-CLEA AND THERE ARE NO PUBLIC PARKING REQUIREMENTS CURRENTLY IN THE S THIS OFFER IS MY OWNERS WHO ARE NOT DEVELOPERS OFFERED TO TRY T MEET THE SPIRITED INTENT TO ALLOW ACCESS TO THE BEACH WITH THESE PEOPLE, WHICH IS PROMOTED. AND SO THE FACTORING YOU TALK ABOUT THAT, IT WAS 30 AND THEN IT WAS 40. AND THEN 100. THAT IS REALLY SKINNY ON THAT AND. THAT ACCESS IS APPROPRIATE ON THE NORTH AND IT'S A LOT CLOSER THAN 10 FEET, 11 FEET, 12 FEET. AT THINK IT'S REASONABLE THAT I THINK WE ARE AT A POINT OR EVERYBODY AGREE WAS THAT -- AGREES WITH IT. >> THANK YOU. >> HOUSE YOU ACCESS THE PROPERT ON THE BEACH. >> IT IS FREE AND CLEAR. >> THE QUESTION I HAVE WISE -- I'M SORRY FOR HOW LONG UNTIL WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE FUNDS OF THE [02:05:04] TIME OF THE EFFORT TO PUT A PARKING LOT IN ON THE NORTH PART . >> THERE IS NO IDENTIFIED FUNDING RIGHT NOW I WOULD SAY PROBABLY WITHIN TWO YEARS AND THEN TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT IT. RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING THE LOCATIONS AN WORKING WITH THE COMPANY TO DEVELOP OUR DESIGN THE STOPS ITSELF SORT LOOKING AT LEAST A YEAR. CAN YOU START USING IT RIGHT AWAY OR EXPECT IT WOULD PROBABL GO TO PARKS AND WRECKED ON THE OTHER SIDE THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEVELOP IT SO WE PUT IN IF USED FOR ANY COST-SHARING PERSPECTIVE . >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE FOOTAGE ISN' EVEN AN ISSUE. MY QUESTION IS BECAUSE THE PROPERTY THAT IS RIGHT NEXT TO IT, WHY WHAT YOU WANT TO BUILD BETWEEN THAT THERE WHY NOT HAVE OCEAN VILLAS AND THEN LET THE PUBLIC AXIS BE RIGHT THERE AT THE HOME. THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE THA THE SOUTHERN AND. >> ACTUALLY MULTIPLE ISSUES WITHIN THAT REQUEST. I JUST HEARD HALF THE PEOPLE SA THEY DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC ACCESS ON THEM THAT LOT IF YOU LIKE THE DIMENSIONS WITHIN THEM IT BECOMES VERY SKINNY ON THAT AND. THAT IS THE WHOLE REASON WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT HAVIN THAT ACCESS ON THE SOUTHERN END BECAUSE THE COUNTY CAN GET A BEACH WALK OVER ON THE NORTH END , AS YOU JUST HEARD THE COMMENTS WITH COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. THEY HAVE TWO RESIDENTIAL COMPATIBLE LOTS RIGHT NEXT TO OTHERS SINGLE-FAMILY COMPATIBLE LOTS PARTICULARLY ON THE NORTH END AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IT BECOMES VERY SKINNY, WHICH I WHY BECOMES APPLICABLE FOR US T GET THE COUNTY FREE LAND TO BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD. THESE ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS. WITHIN A HAVE TO GET THE SLANTE ASSESSMENT RIGHT WITHIN YOUR STAFF REPORT FROM YOUR PLANNING STAFF TO I USE THE WORD BENEVOLENT AND THAT IS WHY YOU'VE GOT A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PZA THA I THINK IT IS AN APPROPRIATE REQUEST FOR SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES SO THE COUNTY CAN LOOK FORWARD AND GET MONEY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR PAID WOULD YOU MIND COMING TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. >> YOU ARE STILL IN PUBLIC COMMENTS. >> COME UP. I DID NOT INTEND TO SPEAK TODAY. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MIGHT NEED CLARIFICATIONS. AND THEY WERE ENCUMBERED BY THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT FOR THE PERMITS FOR PIRATES LANDING. AND ACCESS TO THE BEACH ON THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH WHICH NEVER HAPPENED, SO WHOEVER PURCHASED IT AND THE CELL IS REALLY AND I WOULD NEVER BE APPROVED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT SO HE SAYING THAT THEY DON'T REALLY, THEY'RE DOING US A FAVOR THAT SUPPOSED TO HAVE A HOUSE THERE. THEY SHOULD BE GIVING US THE EXTRA LAND ALSO PAY OR YOU CAN [02:10:04] USE THAT. IT IS LEVERAGE. [INDISCERNIBLE] WE HAD A WONDERFUL TIME EVERY MORNING ON THAT BEACH. WERE ALTAR AND PEOPLE SAFE WE CAN GO NORTH END. ALSO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL TUNNEL PAID PEOPLE SET LAST TIME WHO OWNS THE TUNNEL. WE ARE THE ONES THAT REPAIR IT AND WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR INSPECTIONS IN THE CLUB IS OPEN FOR DINNER BUT I DON'T THINK THEY DO LUNCH. SO WHY CAN'T WE TAKE TWO STEPS ONTO A PATH AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A PATH AND USE THE TUNNELS SAFELY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME QUICK. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, KRISTEN SHERIDAN, BEACH WALK. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BU THIS WAS TABLED UNTIL JUNE TO MEGAN WAS BACK ON THE TABLE VER QUICK. WE HAVE YET TO SEE THE TRAFFIC STUDY. WERE TALKING ABOUT NORTH AND SOUTH ENDS AND SERANADA NEEDING -- AND THE SOUTH END WILL ALSO NEE A BUFFER HOW DO WE PROTECT OURSELVES FROM THE LIABILITY. AND CAN THEY ALSO GIVE BUFFERS TO THE BEACH WALK. TO PROTECT THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE. I'M IN A DEVELOPMENT OR I'M ONE OF THE YOUNGER PATRONS. IT'S JUST WAY TOO FAST BUT SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS USE WALKERS. THEY CANNOT GET ACROSS THE STREET. THEY COME OUT AND ACCELERATE AN THEY SEE THEM IN THE ROAD AND THEY'RE GUNNING FOR YOU AND THE HONK AT YOU. NEVER GOING TO PEOPLE PARKING O THE SIDES AND CHILDREN ARE GOIN TO BE RUNNING OUT AND WE ARE NO SAYING EVERYBODY DOESN'T DESERV ACCESS, THEY ALL DO -- THEY ALL THE PRETTY NIPPY OUT THE BEST WAY TO KEEP ALL THE NEIGHBORS SAFE TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS IN THE VISITORS THAT COME TO THIS AREA BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE KNOWN AS A DEPTH TRAP AREA THINK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. , NOT. PLEASE BE READY. WE HAVE THREE PODIUMS SO YOU CA BE ALL READY TO GO. >> MY NAME IS HAL LEWIS AND EMM PRESIDENT OF OCEAN VIEW. THE PEOPLE ACROSS FROM EP CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE BEACH ACCESS. I'VE ATTENDED THE PLANNING PROCEDURE IN BOTH COMMISSION PROCEEDINGS AND THAT EACH, THE PEOPLE WHO DO HAVE BEACH ACCESS EMOTION VILLAS, HAS OBJECTED TO ANY PUBLIC ACCESS, NORTH OR SOUTH. NOW IS A LAST-DITCH EFFORT, THE SOUTH ACCESS IS APPROVED TO DAT WOULD INVOLVE ADDITIONAL LIABILITY CONCERNS LOCATED NEAR THE SOUTH BEACH ACCESS. HE ALSO TELLS US THIS HAS BEEN PROBLEM FOR THE VILLAS SINCE THEIR OPENING AND IT IS SIMPLY NOT THE COUNTY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE BEACHGOERS TO TAKE THE REASONABLE PRECAUTIONS NECESSAR TO PROTECT AGAINST LIABILITY FROM PEOPLE PASSING BY AS AN ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE. [02:15:10] THEY SHOULD NOT BE ASKING THE COUNTY TO DO THAT FOR THEM THAN YOU. >> THINK THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE COME UP. >> GOOD MORNING. >> 305 SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE UNIT 101. I WANTED TO BRING UP BASIC ARITHMETIC IN TERMS OF WHO YOU FOLKS TAKE A LOOK AT THE ADDITIONAL BEACH ACCESS, INDIVIDUAL FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS. THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS DRAWN UP IN 1994, THE PRESENT OWNERS ARE ADDRESSING ON BOTH ENDS OF THE PROPERTY AND THE EAST PROPERTY, EXCUSE ME. THEY'RE ASKING FOR 20 CAR PARKING SPACE FOR EACH SITE AND I WANT TO BRING THE TWO BASIC ARITHMETIC, HAVING A LACK OF ACCESS TO THE BEACH. THERE'S 190 FOR APARTMENTS APARTMENTS, THREE BEDROOMS, SO NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ACTUALLY LEFT OUT ACCESS TO THE BEACH. NOW, GRANTED THAT IS PROVIDED FOR MEMBERS OF THE CLUB, THERE ARE NOT 1200 INDIVIDUALS GOING TO THE CLUB AND ACCESSING THE BEACH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGES BUT I THINK IT IS A LOT LOWER THAN THAT THEY ARE AN LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THE TUNNEL THAT WAS BUILT AND I THINK IT WAS BUILT EXPRESSLY FOR ACCESS TO THE BEACH FOR OCEAN GRAND. I COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING IN TH RECORDS THAT SAY THAT BUT IN 2003, I THINK, THERE WAS AN EASEMENT THAT WAS DRAWN UP AND AGREED THAT CLUB OWNERS, OCEAN GRAND CONDO REPRESENTATIVES AND THE CONDOS IT WAS STATED IT WAS BUILT EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CLUB SO YOU ARE PUZZLED AS A POPULATION OF 1200 PEOPLE WITH NO ACCESS TO THE BEACH. I THINK IF YOU FOLKS ADDRESS THAT IN TERMS OF BENEFITS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GIVES YOU AR THE STATE GOVERNMENT GIVES YOU, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEVER BEE ADDRESSED PICKED THE WAY I SEE IT IS THAT GIVE US A PATH UP AT THE STREET LEVEL TO USE THE TUNNEL TO GET THAT WHEN YOU GIV US 5-FOOT ACCESS ON THE SOUTH END THE NORTH END IS NOT PRACTICAL OVER US BUT THE SOUTH HAD COME I'M SURE THAT WOULD NO BE SERIOUS AREAS OF DETRIMENT. >> I'M SORRY. >> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. >> NOT ASKING FOR MUCH. >> THANK YOU. WE WILL CLOSE COMMENT ON PUBLIC AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY HE GOE TO THE BACK. YOU JUST NEED TO STAY UPFRONT WITH US. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AND I KNOW YOU ARE TRACKING EVERY ROAD IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY BUT CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE CAPACITY OF PEAK HOUR. DO YOU HAVE THAT DATA AND THE TRAFFIC CRASH DATA AVAILABLE. >> I DO APOLOGIZE. I DO LOOK UP THE CRASH DATA AND I DID NOT SAVE THE INFORMATION INTO TERMS OF CAPACITY, BOTH OF THESE ARE OPERATING UNDER THE 100% THEN 90% NORTH OF HERE AND IT'S OPERATING AT ROUGHLY 4% AN BELOW 75% IN PEAK HOURS SO THERE'S THE CAPACITY ON THE ROADWAY FOR ADDITIONAL AND NEED BASED ON THE LEVEL OF STANDARDS HERE AGAIN LOOKING AT THE ACCIDENT DATA, THE BEST MEMORY THAT I HAVE, MOST OF THEM. TO BE THEIR REAR END TYPE OF COLLATIONS. [02:20:09] THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF INCIDENT IN THE RECOLLECTION LOOKING UP. THERE WERE COMMENTS ABOUT A TRAFFIC STUDY. THERE'S NO TRAFFIC STUDY AND WE DON'T HAVE AN IMPROVEMENT PLAN SHOULD THIS REZONING OCCUR. WHEN THEY WOULD START DOING THOSE TRAFFIC STUDIES, WHAT, IF ANY -- AND ALL OF THAT DEITY PERMITTING . THEY SET THE SPEED LIMIT SET UP THEIR STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES. SO YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY DATA AND THE CRASH DATA. IF THOSE FOLKS E-MAILED YOU, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT. HE'S GOT ALL THE -- AND HE'S HERE HE RESPONSIVE TO THE SPEED STUDY HAS BEEN DONE PREVIOUSLY. AND THEY HAVE LEFT BACK AND RATHER MORE LIKELY OF ASSAULT THAT INCREASED SPEED IS A MORE APPROPRIATE CONDITION ON THE ROADWAY. PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED WITH THE SPEED LIMIT EXPECTING A SPEED STUDY BECAUSE IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THE SUBPOENA WILL BE POSTE HIRE. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THEY MONITOR THE SPEED ALONG THERE. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING OR. >> I WILL -- [INDISCERNIBLE] APPROVING 25-10, PARCELS IN FAC AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND. >> LET'S VOTE. [3. Public Hearing * NZVAR 2026-02 Hardee Family Property.] >> I DON'T HAVE ANY RECORDS OF ANY MEETINGS OR MEETINGS. >> NOTE E-MAILS BUT A MEETING WITH JAMES WHITEHOUSE. >> I DID HAVE A MEETING WITH MR. WHITE HOUSE TO DISCUSS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. >> THANK YOU PUT. >> NOTE E-MAILS FROM RESIDENTS OR STAFF. MEETING WITH JAMES WHITEHOUSE. >> I HAVE THE SAME, NO E-MAILS FROM RESIDENTS OR STAFF. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN JAME WHITEHOUSE, MAIN STREET HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, FLORIDA PARADIGM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICATION OF THE HARDEN FAMIL PROPERTY, REQUEST FOR MODIFICATION. AS APPROVED IN AND REZONING AS APPROVED BY THIS BOARD ABOUT A YEAR AGO. THIS LOCATION IS LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 13 A AND ASHTON ROA SOUTH OF 208 AND DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE ASHTON FOLKS. AGAIN CABLE WE CAN SEE HERE IT IS ON COUNTY ROAD 13A JUST AS YOU COME UP TOWARD 208. IT IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREE FROM THE HARDY'S FAMILY PROPERTY , AS YOU MAY RECALL THEIR WE HAD PUT, THIS WAS A FORMER PRD THAT WE HAD PUT BACK [02:25:07] INTO RESIDENTIAL AGES LIKE A NUMBER OF THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT AND REZONED IT OR THERE WAS TEXT AMENDMENT THAT THEY HAD ADDED AND THEY COULD HAVE A MAXIMUM OF FIVE UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY WHICH IS ON THIS DIRECTLY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS ALLOWED PREVIOUSLY. WE ARE HERE FOR THIS NON-ZONING VARIANCE ON THIS FAMILY PROPERT THAT WE HAD CHANGED BACK TO FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DIVIDE IT INTO THESE FIVE LOTS OF US SAID DO BEFORE WHEN YOU APPROVE THE AMENDMENT BUT THE REASON WE ARE HERE FOR NON-ZONING VARIANCE IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO A DEFICIENT OF LAND WITHIN THE COUNTY AND A YOU ALL KNOW UNDER DEVELOPMENT CODE CAN BE HAVE TO MEET A NUMBER OF REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS IS TWO OF THE FIVE. THE ISSUE IS WHEN WE DIVIDE IT IN MORE THAN TWO WE HAVE A LOT OF CONDITIONS WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT ARE FULLY APPLICABLE TO THE SUBDIVISIONS AND IT IS UNDER THE SUBDIVISION PLAN. HERE WE ARE SPLITTING HAIRS AND SAY WE ARE SUBDIVIDING THE LAND BUT THE SUBDIVISION IS NOT A TYPICAL SUBDIVISION AS WE TALK ABOUT IT IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND WE DO NOT HAVE AN INTERNAL BOAT AND INTERNAL SYSTEMS FOR STORMWATER OR TRAFFIC OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS TOOL, WHICH WE USE LOTS OF DIFFERENT TIMES FOR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT SAYS FOR THIS TYPE OF APPLICATION WHERE EVERY ONE OF THESE ACCESSES AS YOU SEE IS ONTO A COUNTY ROAD, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE ALL THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS AS THE SUBDIVISION OF THAT IS ALL WE ARE REALLY SAYING HERE AND YOU SEE IN THE STAFF REPORT THIS MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND THEY MEET THE MINIMUM AND EACH ONE IS FIVE OR MORE ACRES AND A VERY LARGE SINGLE-FAMILY PROPERTIES AND WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE BACK AND YO SEEN THE STAFF REPORT AND YOU SEE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR SUBDIVISION, FOR ASSISTANCE -- FOR EXAMPLE FIRE ASSISTANCE. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOWS UP AN HAS TO FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE THAT'LL HAVE FIRE SYSTEMS AND SINCE WE ARE SUBDIVIDING LANDS, AND NOT BEING IN A MORE SUBURBA AREA WE WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE A SWORD GOING TO PROVIDE THE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES AND IT WILL BE A CONDITION ON YOUR APPROVAL TO THE OTHER THING YOU TALK ABOUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT RIGHT HERE AT THE BOTTOM AS A CONDITION WILL PROVIDE -- SECONDLY WE TALKED ABOUT SCHOOL CONCURRENCY. AS YOU KNOW AND A LOT OF THE PARTS FOR COUNTY CAN WE ARE SHORT FOR CAPACITY AND YOU WOUL THINK IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, BUT HAVE CAPACITY BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS DENSE. THAT'S JUST WHAT WE BUILT OUT I THIS AREA. THEY FOUND IT IS A SHORT .9 OF THE STUDENT FOR THESE FIVE. BUT THEY'RE NOT THERE HAVE STUDENTS BUT THAT IS NOT HOW TH FORMULA WORKS BUT THESE PROPERT OWNERS WILL HAVE TO COVER FOR PORT NIGHT AND THAT WILL ALSO HAVE TO BE AN APPROVAL OF THIS NON-ZONING VARIANCE. OTHER THAN THAT, WE GO THROUGH THE WHOLE ANNOUNCEMENT AND FOUN THIS IS APPROPRIATE AND I WON'T BELABOR THE POINT BY GOING THROUGH ALL THAT BUT THERE IS N OPEN COMMENTS ON THIS PARTICULA APPLICATION AND IT'S AN APPROPRIATE DIVISION OF LAND AN IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH ALL THE SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS ARE AL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR BE GONE THROUGH AS EACH INDIVIDUAL'S FIVE LOTS COMEDIANS WITH THE SITE PLANS AND WE ASK FOR YOUR REASONABLE CONSIDERATION THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. NOW WE HAVE CLOSED PUBLIC COMMENT. MR. ARNOLD, YOU KNOW HOW THE FLOOR. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. REQUEST FOR NON-ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT CODE OF LAND OF ELEMENT CODE, SEEKING TO FLEE FROM THE SUBDIVISION PLOTTING REQUIREMENTS BASED UPON CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED. >> I WILL SECOND THAT. [4. Public Hearing * PUD 2025-04 Spencer Plaza.] >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE CAN GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER [02:30:04] 4. GOOD MORNING. LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET IT TO ARNOLD. >> I HAVE -- WE RECEIVED ONE E-MAIL AND NOT TAKE ANY MEETINGS. >> THREE PLUS E-MAILS AND MEETING WITH SINU VENUS AND JUSTIN CLARK AND THE PAIN. >> HAD TWO E-MAILS AND MET WITH SINU VENUS AND DISCUSS THE SITE LOCATION AND THE WAIVERS. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> TWO PLUS E-MAILS THAT THE APPLICANT, JUSTIN CLARK, AND HI STAFF. >> THE SAME TWO PLUS E-MAILS. SO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> THANK YOU. >> JUSTIN CLARK, 44 YEAR RESIDENT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I ALONG WITH SINU VENUS ARE THE AUTHORIZED AGENT SAID MINORITY PARTNERS IN THIS REQUEST DID I DO THAT? YES. >> YOU ARE IN CONTROL, SIR. IT'S A THREE-POINT 1 ACRE TRACT LOCATED AT 10900, 2 MILES SOUTH -- ABSURD, 2 MILES NORTH OF ISLAND ROAD, WHICH IS THE SOUTHERNMOST INCREASE AT THE PINE ISLAND ACADEMY IN ABOUT 1.5 MILES SOUT OF THE HIGH SCHOOL, MY ALL MODERN. AS WE ASSUME INCOME A YOU WILL SEE IT IS JUST NORTH OF HILTON ROAD HERE AND JUST SOUTH OF STERLING PLAZA DRIVE. AND IT IS SOME MIXED USE LAND-USE. AND WE ARE REQUESTING TO 105 BUILT ON SECTION CODE 301, TABL OF CW, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE THAT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE AND AN EXCEPTIONAL OF THE FEW OF THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND OFFICE USES AND WE ARE ASKING FOR SEVERAL PAPERS. JUST WANT TO POINT OUT I WILL G HERE AND THEN BACK. IT DOES LOOK LIKE A LOT OF OPEN AND ROLL AROUND US AND ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT, THE TRAIN TRACK, THAT IS ALL OWNED BY THE ST. JOHN'S RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT THEM INTO OUR EAST, NIGHT 9 ACRES ROUGHLY BY ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND ABOUT HALF OF THOSE ARE WET, I JUST WANT TO SORT OF POINT THAT OUT. TODAY AND ALSO TO OUR NORTH IS THEN IW TRACK, THE WILFORD SERVICE CENTER, WINDOW TINTING. AND TODAY I HOPE TO PRESENT TO YOU SUBSTANTIAL CONFIDENT EVIDENCE ABOUT SPECIFIC UNRELIABLE FINDINGS OF FACT IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY GOAL AND EXAC -- WE ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH ALL TE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. LOOKING AT ALL THE GOALS AND POLICIES OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND IT WAS BUILT TO SUPPORT A [02:35:02] FLEX DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE BEEN BUILDING IN THIS AREA FOR MIXTURE OF SMALL BUSINESS AND W CREATE JOBS AND IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT UNIT, JUST BEYOND THE REASON WE ASKED FOR THE PUD DISTRICT ZONING USES. SO THE LIMITATIONS OF THE STRAIGHT IW OR CW ZONING THAT W GET A CUP NEXT OF ALL THIS RETAIL, THE EVOLVING MARKET DEMANDS, ENSURING THE PROJECT REMAINS A HIGH VALUE ECONOMICALLY SUSTAINABLE ASSET FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. WE ALSO CONSIDER POLICY A- 1-0 AND. WE ARE ON THE GROUND AND IN THE AREA. CONTACTS AROUND US ARE SIMILAR IN SCOPE AND BUILDING HEIGHT. NUMBERS 7, WE BASICALLY MEET TH REQUIREMENTS PURSUANT TO THE SECTIONS 5.03, 02. G.1 AND THAT I WILL JUST SKIP TWO NUMBER 9 AND THAT CONSISTS OF OBJECTIVE .1.11 TO IT IS NOT A LEAPFROG DEVELOPMENT AND WE COMBINE MULTIPLE USES INTO THIS ONE LOCATION AND WE DON'T BELIEVE THE PARTY -- THE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS VERSUS SNYDER APPLIES BUT THERE SHOULD BE NO REASON TO KEEP BUT FOR ZONING. AND THERE IS PRECEDENT FOR BUT WE ARE REQUESTING AND IN EACH O THESE AND EACH OF THESE ARE IDENTICAL AND MOST EXACTLY IDENTICAL TO THE ONE WE ARE REQUESTING WITH ONE SMALL CHANG AND THAT IS WHEN WE LISTEN TO THE WAIVER, BY THE WAY, EXCEPT THAT WE ARE MOVING AWAY FROM TH IN THE ZONING. THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS MORE IDENTIFIED AS A ZONING FOR MILANO BEACH REHABILITATION SO WE MOVED TO INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUS AND GAVE US ADDITIONAL OFFICES AND RETAIL USES. 'S ARE TO DIG INTO THESE INDIVIDUALLY, JUST SHOWING PRECEDENT, THIS IS WHAT WE BUIL TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE THIS WAS APPROVED 66,000 SQUARE FEET ON 5.11 ACRES. EAST OF THAT IS CLASS OF PHASE TWO, 66,000 SQUARE FEET ON FOUR-POINT TO NOTE -- FOR 4.29 ACRES. PHASE 1 WAS AN IW ZONE AND ONE WITH SIMILAR WAIVERS APPROVED. THIS ONE WAS ACTUALLY, WE HAVE GOT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON THAT ONE AND IT WAS AGRICULTURAL, PLANT AND COMP PLAN WAS CHANGED TO MIXED-USE AND THEN IT WAS ALSO OPEN RURAL AT THE TIME. AND THEN THE POWER CENTER IS ON THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF 2024, 36,000 SQUARE FEET APPROVED AT ONE POINT AND 8 ACRES. AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN, SOME OF WHAT WE ARE PLAN -- PLANNING THERE NOW SO TO GET MORE SPECIFIC WITH WHAT IS THERE , AND JUST CALL OUT WHY WE DO THIS, THAT MODEL RECOGNIZES THE DESTRUCTION OF THE [02:40:04] TRADITIONAL -BASED DEVELOPMENT FORMS. SO WE BLEND INTO ONE COMPACT DEVELOPMENT DIFFERENT USES AND RETAIL CONCEPTS, ALL COMMERCIAL. AND SO TO THE SOUTH, STERLING PLAZA HAS BEEN VERY WELL RECEIVED. AT SAYS MORE THAT IS AT THE SUBJECT SITE AND IS JUST NORTH OF STERLING PLAZA. IN HIS GOT A MIX OF RETAIL WAREHOUSE AND I'M FULL JUST SKI AHEAD TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE TYPES. I JUST TOOK SOME PICTURES AND SOME OF THE USES IN THE BUILDIN SO WE HAVE A COMBINATION OF CORPORATE OFFICE AND THERE IS THE GM AND THERE'S A DESIGN STUDIO IN THE SHOW ROOM AND A DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE THAT GOL CART SALES AND SOME STORAGE. THERE'S ALSO BEEN CONTRACTORS, HVAC, AND SPECIALTY TRAINING. SOLD THIS IS INVOLVING A TRANSITION FROM LEGACY AND OPEN RURAL AND INDUSTRIAL TO SMALL BUSINESS, COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL SPACE AND THIS REZONING REQUEST KEEPS PACE WITH CHANGE WHERE WE ARE REDUCING CONGESTION AND PROMOTING AND SUPPORTING LOCAL ECONOMIC VITALITY. AND IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO OUR REQUESTED WAIVERS. THE FIRST IS FOR A WE'RE AND WINE EXCEPTION WE MAY HAVE RESTAURANTS OR MAYBE A WE'RE BREWERY THAT MAY HAVE WE'RE AND WINE WE ARE NOT CURRENTLY WITHI 1,000 FEET OF ANY CHURCH OR SCHOOL. THE SECOND IS OPEN SPACE AND I WANT TO POINT SOMETHING OUT WIT THIS OPEN SPACE REQUEST. IT'S NOT JUST THAT WE ARE MEDITATING OPEN SPACE IN THE REQUEST WE DID GET THIS WAIVER ON THE OTHER THREE PD. BUT THE PUD IS A STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL ZONE IN THE SPACE SOME REQUIREMENT. THIS IS BECAUSE BENEATH THE PUD TO MAKE OUR PROJECT WORK. SO THE REQUEST IS TO INCLUDE THAT POND AND THE 25% REQUIREMENT AND THE PUD WILL BE ENHANCED AT THE BEST ROLE WITH BENCHES AND LIGHTING AND -- AND A TENTH OF THE CODE PROVIDING ATTRACTIVE ACCESSIBLE SERVING OPEN AREAS SO THE POND, WE NEED BLUE SPACE JUST LIKE WE NEED GREEN SPACE. AND WE ARE A MEDITATING MEDITATING AT. THIS IS OUT THERE. WE MIGHT DO A BIT MORE THAN A BADGE. MIGHT BE ADDITIONAL BEING. AND I THINK THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT CONCESSION IN THE PUD. AND WE HAVE LIMITED THAT THE 65% . AND WHAT THAT DOES IS PROVIDE FOR AN ADDITIONAL 10% OF BASICALLY GIVING THE EARTH SOME MORE ROOM TO BREAK SO WITH FOUNTAINS AND LIGHTS AND BENCH. [02:45:12] WE ARE ACTUALLY PRODUCING THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF RUNOFF BY THOUSANDS OF GALLONS A MONTH AN IT IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. FOR THE SETBACK REQUEST, WHERE ONLY ASKING FOR THE SETBACK ON PARKING ONLY AS RELATES TO THE FRANTIC ON US ONE I WANT TO SHO YOU THE CURRENT PROJECT THAT WA JUST TO THE SOUTH. THIS PROJECT AT THE SAME WAIVER AND WE GOT THE WAIVER DOWN TO 8 FEET ON THAT ONE CLINIC AND IT COMES IN IS SOMEWHAT OF AN ANGL BUT IT GOES TO A LITTLE UNDER 3 SIMILAR ORIENTATION THAT IS KIN OF ON A CURVE OR ASKING FOR A 1Y . WE STILL HAVE 40 FEET OR 30 FEE OF RIGHT-OF-WAY BEFORE YOU GET TO THE PARKING, SO I DON'T THIN IT FEELS CROWDED SO WE ARE REQUESTING FOR THAT SETBACK REQUIREMENT JUST FOR PARKING. AND THEN FINALLY WE RECOGNIZE W HAVE TO SUBMIT INCREMENTAL MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLANS ALONG WITH THIS AND I DO WANT TO SHAR WITH YOU, IT IS NOT A SITE SESSION BUT WE ARE NOT JUST BUBBLE PLANNING. WHEREVER ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN SITE PLANNING. SO WHAT I AM POINTING OUT AT THIS ANGLE IS THIS CURVES OUT. MY ALLOWING FOR THE 10-FOOT SETBACK, IT ALLOWS US TO PARK THE PEOPLE WE ARE SERVING AND THAT IS A REALLY GOOD PRIORITY BECAUSE WE WANT TO KEEP THE VALUE STRONG FOR STAKEHOLDERS AND FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ENGAGED IN THESE UNITS AND ENJOYING THE AMENITIES OF THEM AND THAT PARKING MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. SO IN CLOSING, I HOPE I% THE T OUR ZONING REQUEST AND WAIVERS AND HOPEFULLY WE'VE DEMONSTRATE WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED IN THE AREA OF PRIOR ZONINGS AND IMPACTS IN OU COMMUNITY. REPRODUCE TRAFFIC, HIGHER PROPERTY UTILIZATION AND VALUE AND IT IS A SMALL INFIELD SITE AND THE ZONING REFLECTS TODAY'S REALITY AND TOMORROW'S OPPORTUNITIES. IS COMPATIBLE WITH NEIGHBORING USES AN MAX HEIGHT -- AND WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL FO SPENCER PLEASANT PD 2525. TWO COMMENTS TO POINT OUT. THERE ARE A LOT OF THREES ON THIS SITE. 90% OF THEM ARE LOW-QUALITY PINES AND THERE ARE NO SPECIMEN THREES BOTH ON AND OFF-SITE MITIGATION HANDLING THE REPLACEMENT OF THE THREES REQUIRED AND ONE OTHER COMMENT, I DON'T THINK IT IS QUITE CLEAR AND I WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THE TEXT SECTION E, THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL USE ON THIS SITE. WE DON'T WANT THAT AND WE DON'T INTEND TO HAVE IT. THE EXHIBIT WAS THE DENSITY END UNIT DID NOT APPLY AND OUR PURPOSE AND POINT IS THAT THERE ALSO WAVING OUR RIGHT AND I JUS WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> I HAVE A COMMENT IN A QUESTION. YOU DO HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT AND THINK IT IS RIGHT BUT I'M REALL CONCERNED ABOUT THAT OVER -- OVER DEPARTMENT OF THIS PIECE BECAUSE IT SWITCHED FROM REGULA ZONING TO PUD BECAUSE YOU WANTE TO DO A MORE FLEXIBLE PROJECT THEN YOU TOOK AWAY THE 25% OPEN SPACE SO WHAT IS YOUR OPEN SPAC PERCENTAGE RIGHT NOW. [02:50:04] >> A LITTLE OVER 21%. PR EXCHANGING AND I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT POINT AND I WROTE THIS DOWN SO WHILE WE MIGHT GET A COMPLAINT POSSIBLY, BUT WE AR DOING IS INSTEAD OF A REQUIREMENT OF THE OPEN SPACE, WE ARE PROVIDING FUNCTION AND W ARE LIMITING IT THROUGH THE ISR FOR 65%, 10% LOSS THEN WHAT WE WOULD HAVE POTENTIALLY HAD. SO ALTOGETHER WE ARE 36%. IF YOU INCLUDE -- ALREADY AT A LITTLE OVER 21. SO IT'S SHORT OF THE REQUIREMEN BUT WERE OFFSETTING THAT DROPPING THE 75% DOWN TO 65 AND THAT PERCOLATION I THINK IS A REALLY NICE OFFSET FOR FUNCTION AND FOR PASSIVE USE. >> I GET THAT, BUT I HATE SETTING THAT UP BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT IN OUR PLAN, KEEPING LOOKING LIKE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SO I WILL LISTEN TO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE THINKS. >> PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4. WE CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. AND I DO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONE JOSEPH ON THAT OPEN SPACE. THAT IS IMPORTANT. GOING AHEAD WITH APPROVAL ON THIS, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ENACT OR ORDINANCE 2026-10, PROVING 25 -- 2025 SPENCER PLASS. FINDINGS OF FACT AS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND THAT MOTION. LET'S GO TO VOTE. >> IT PASSES 4-1. LET'S MOVE ON. WE'VE ONLY GOT TO MAKE LEFT EAR. [5. Public Hearing * REZ 2024-09 401 E. Ashland Avenue.] CAN WE DO THAT? NUMBER 5. LUPO COPE WITH COMMISSIONER ARNOLD FOR YOUR RECOGNIZE. >> I HAVE NO RECORD OF ANY MEETINGS. >> I SECOND THAT. LAUGH NONE. >> COMMISSIONER WATER. >> I HAVE BEEN. >> AND COMMISSIONER TELLER. >> I HAVE NONE. >> THAT I HAVE NONE. YOU HAVE GOT THE FLOOR. >> GOOD MORNING. I AM LAUREL WITH SHE BUILDS AND I'M ON PAP ALL HOMES LLC FOR THEIR PROPERTY AT 401 EAST ASHLAND AVENUE IN HASTINGS AND WE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO REZONE FROM OR TO RS 3. WE WERE ACTUALLY APPROVED IN TH PLANNING AND SELLING IN MARCH. SO WHAT I HAVE HERE IS THE PROPERTY 51 WAS ONE PARCEL AS FAR BACK AS 1945 AS FAR AS I CA SEE AND THE 51 WAS SPLIT AND SOLD IT LOOKS LIKE TO A FAMILY MEMBER AND 1989. ALL HOMES LLC PURCHASED THE PARCEL 51 FROM SOMEBODY WHO OWNED IT IN THE MIDDLE AND LOOK LIKE THEY HAD CONSIDERED BUILDING SOMETHING I GOT A CONFIRMATION LETTER SAYING THIS IS AN OR LOT AND DOES NOT MEET THE OR MINIMUM SIZE FOR A HOUSE. SO WHEN YOU PURCHASE THAT LACK OF THE 51, IT WAS A HOUSE ON 50 AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT CAME DOWN SOMETIME IN 2023. SO THAT THIS IS THE AREA SHOWIN HOW 401 EAST ASHLAND AVENUE IS SEWN OR AND THERE IS A BIG AREA AROUND IT INCLUDING TO THE FRON UP THE YARD AND IS ZONED RS 3. THE STARS ARE LOCATIONS THAT APPEAR TO NOT MEET THE CURRENT ZONING STANDARDS. MOST THE HOUSES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE OLDER. VERY FARM TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THINGS LIKE THAT BUT THERE'S QUITE A FEW IN THE AREA THAT HAVE STRUCTURES ON THEM, A LOT OF MOBILE HOMES AND SMALLER LOTS . SOPHIE ARE PROPOSING TO A [02:55:04] SINGLE-FAMILY HOME THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD BE A GREAT VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY AND I'M ASSUMING SOMEONE WILL WANT TO COME BACK UP OF THE HOUSE AND W WILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM. YOU SEE JUST BEHIND IT, AND AGAIN ZONING WITH A HOUSE THAT DOES NOT MEET THE STANDARDS AND IT IS A DIRT ROAD ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT HOUSE SO WHAT HE I PROPOSING TO DO IS BUILDING ONE FAMILY HOME FRONTING DALLAS STREET. THIS IS KIND OF JUST A DRAFT OF PUT KEEP THESE SETBACKS AND ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS AND THE ONLY THING HE WOULD NOT BE MEETING IS THE MINIMUM LOT AREA AS OPPOSED TO THE 1 ACRE BUT AL OTHER REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE STILL UNDER OR STANDARDS. SO HERE IS A FEW PICTURES THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE CLEANED UP AND I DON'T THINK ANY THREES NEED T BE TAKEN DOWN. AGAIN, THERE WAS A HOUSE THAT FOR STAKING DOWN OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT I THINK SOME SHE SOME THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THIS IS FOR ASHLAND IS A DEAD ROAD. AND WE JUST BELIEVE THIS WOULD BE A GREAT BENEFIT WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON A HASTINGS. WE KNOW THAT IS BECOMING A HOT AREA TO GO TO. SO WE WERE APPROVED BY ZONING BACK IN MARCH TO BUILD THIS HOUSE AND I SHOULD MENTION HE'S AN INVESTOR BUT IS PLANNING TO BUILD A HOUSE TO SELL THE HOUSE AND NOT TWO KEEP IT AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A BIG BENEFIT TO TH NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS ALL I HAVE THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD CRACKED. >> WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> PEOPLE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT O AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5. SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLI COMMENT. >> BACK TO THE BOARD FOR MOTION. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, COMMISSIONE ARNOLD. >> MOTION TO AN ORDINANCE 26-11 APPROVING ZONING 24-0941 EAST ASHLAND AVENUE BASED ON FINDING OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAF REPORT. >> I SECOND. [7. Consider appointment to the Housing Finance Authority.] >> THAT PASSES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I HAVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7. NUMBER 6 IS NOW NUMBER 7 IS NOW NUMBER 6. WE DID PUBLIC COMMENT DURING TH BREAK KILLER PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE WILL GO RIGHT ONTO NUMBER 7. >> SENIOR ASSISTANT OF THE BOAR OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. CURRENTLY THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES ON THE HOUSE AND FINANCE AUTHORITY AUTHORITY DEE DUE TO EXPIRE TERMS AND RAN FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS. FINALLY ATTACHED FOR YOUR REVIE AND RECOMMENDATION. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. SEEING NUNCA MUST GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> PEOPLE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT O ITEM NUMBER 7. SEEING NONE, WE CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> TO GO BACK THE BOARD FOR EMOTION. >> I AM PREPARED TO MAKE THAT. >> THANKS, MAN. >> THANKS, MA'AM. FOR FULL FOUR YEAR TEAM -- TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE 2030 AND MOTION TO REAPPOINT CAROLIN MORAL TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR A FULL FINANCE TERM APRIL 2 OF 2030. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A SECOND. THAT INCLUDES OUR AGENDA ITEM. LET'S GO TO COME AS SOON AS I [Commissioners’ Reports] GET THAT PAGE, WE WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER REPORTS. >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF BUT JUST PUT O A REALLY INCREDIBLE EVENT THIS MORNING BUT I THINK IT WAS [03:00:04] WONDERFUL TO CELEBRATE THAT COMMUNITY NOT MUCH THEY ENJOYED IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED THAT WAS REALLY STRANG BUT I LIKE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD WHO MAY NOR MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT IT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FINDING OUT MORE ABOUT IT SO I WAS IN THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT MEETING AND WE HAVE A PORT OFF THE BACK UP THE AIRPORT AT THE PROPERTY FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY NICE AT WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT AND HE SAID W PULLED A BARGE UP AND WE HAVE A CRANE AND THE CRANE PUTS THE AIRPLANE ON THE BARGE AND THEN WE SHIP IT UP TO JACK'S BEARD S I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO A POSSIBILITY OF OFFERING BARGE SERVERS TO AN INDUSTRIAL PERSON THAT CAME IN AND CAME TO OUR COUNTY AND MAKE SOME MONEY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALREADY KNO ABOUT IT. SHOULD REFLECT INTO WHETHER WE DO OUR WEATHER WE OWN THE PROPERTY HE SEEMED TO THINK WE OWN IT. >> IT COULD BE THE AIRPORT 30. I WOULD AGREE TO LOOK INTO IT,. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THA WE STAY IN OUR LANE. >> WE CAN CERTAINLY FIND THAT OUT. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY. >> YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME INFORMATION TO SHED ON THIS. >> I THINK WE HAVE A VALID WEIGHT OF THE SIMILAR PROPOSAL IN THE PAST AND THERE MIGHT BE MORE OR NEW INFORMATION AVAILABLE NOW THAT WE HAVE A NE AIRPORT AUTHORITY BOARD AND WE CAN WEIGH THE PROS AND CONS AND OPPORTUNITIES. AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY, I'VE BEEN A LOOK INTO IT BUT HE IS MEETIN WITH THE PRESIDENT IN THE AREA DEEP EXPENSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO LOOK INTO AND ALSO HE SPIED BRIAN AND THE POTATO FESTIVAL, I AM RUNNING THE SPUN RUN SO I AM WALKING SO IF ANY BUT IF WANTS TO GO OUT THERE WITH ME, I WILL BE THERE. >> IF YOU SEE ME RUNNING, SOMETHING BAD IS COMING. ALL GOOD, ALL GOOD, MR. CHAIR. >> I BROUGHT MR. BRIGHT TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE. IT'S LIKE EVERY OTHER PART OF THE COUNTY, I'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF E-MAILS ABOUT YARD WASTE COLLECTION CHART PLAYS, YARD WASTE, YARD WASTE. SO, MR. BRIGHT, I HAD YOU COMPILE SOME DATA AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO GO INTO THE CHALLENGES AND THE HERCULEAN EFFORT THAT YOU'VE BEEN MAKING TO COLLECT THE YARD WASTE. >> I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP HERE AND TALK TRASH. DIRECTOR FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THIS TIME OF YEAR WE EXPERIENCE A SIGNIFICANT UPTICK IN THE AMOUNT UP SET OUT FOR YARD WASTE . OF WINTER IS GONE AND SPRING IS COMING IN. THAT GENERATES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DEBRIS. IT'S AN ANNUAL OCCURRENCE AND I IS KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE SOLID WASTE INDUSTRY SO IT'S SOMETHIN WE HAVE INCORPORATED IN OUR CONTRACT THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN AND THEY BRING IN EXTRA RESOURCES WHICH INCLUDES EXTRA DRIVERS, EXTRA TRUCKS, AND THIRD-PARTY VENDORS TO HELP PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT MEETS THE TEAMS OF THE CONTRACT WHICH IS A LIMITED SET OUT. SO LAST YEAR THEY COLLECTED 6 MILLION POUNDS IN THE MONTH O MARCH FROM THE ROADSIDE. SO THIS YEAR LOOKING AT THE DATA , THEY COLLECT FIVE MILLION POUNDS BIRD THAT'S A 60% INCREASE TO TRY TO GIVE SOME PERSPECTIVE TO IT COME IF YOU WOULD TAKE THAT YARD WATE AND PILOT ON A FOOTBALL FIELD, IT WOULD END UP 8-10 FEET HIGH. FOR HURRICANE MILTON, WE COLLECTED 10.9 MILLION POUNDS S IT IS HERCULEAN AND IT IS HURRICANE -ESQUE IN THE EFFORT THAT IS PUT FORTH AND I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE DEBRIS WAS COLLECTED OVER IT. MAC OF THREE MONTHS. SEC COLLECTED 10.5 IN JUST ONE MONTH. OR WE ARE ON TRACK FOR ANOTHER RECORD-SETTING EVENT HALFWAY THROUGH FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK. SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT RESIDENTS HAVE CONCERNS AND IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER HOW MUCH WASTE IS [03:05:06] COLLECTED. SO EVERY CONCERN IS IMPORTANT T US AND EVERY CONCERN IS CONVEYE TO FCC AND WE TRIED TO ADDRESS THAT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. THIS MULTIPLE OPTIONS THAT RESIDENTS HAVE SO WE HAVE THEM CONNECT OUT AND THEY CAN DOWN LOW AND LOGIN THE CONCERN RIGHT NOW. IT GOES IN AND AUTOMATICALLY GOES TO FCC TO MONITOR THROUGH THE ENTIRE THING. AND RESIDENTS CAN DOWN LOW AND GET INFORMATION ON RECYCLING. AND YOU CAN TAKE A PICTURE OF A ITEM THAT WILL TELL YOU WHETHER IT CAN BE RECYCLED OR NOT. YOU CAN FIND OUT YOUR COLLECTIO DAY SO AND THAT ALSO PROVIDING THE SET UP IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GUIDANCE, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE . AND THAT IS EACH INDIVIDUAL ITEM . YOU CAN SET OUT AS MANY AS YOU WANT. JUST ONE PARTICULAR PIECE CANNO EXCEED THAT AMOUNT. SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO -- I NOTICED THAT MICHAEL AND HER STAFF ARE DOING A GREAT JOB AND HAVE A RIGHT TO BE FRUSTRATED. ONE VOICE DOESN'T GET PICKED UP ON THE DATA SCHEDULED, I WOULD BE FRUSTRATED TOO. LIKE 10 MILLION POUNDS TELLS US ALL THAT THEY'RE NOT ORGANIZED THROUGHOUT THEIR MAKING THE EFFORT EVERY DAY AND THE POUNDAGE OF A MONTH JANUARY. CELL JANUARY IS MAYBE AROUND A MILLION. IN THAT RANGE. >> THAT'S A NORMAL JANUARY. >> THAT IS CORRECT. LETS UNDER NORMAL JULY-YARD CLIPPING, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE. >> THAT'S PROBABLY AROUND 3-4 PISTOL THAT WAS A NORMAL MONTH. MAY BE A MILLION IS IN THE WINTER MONTHS. 6 MILLION WAS LAST MARKED AND THIS YEAR'S 10.5 MILLION POUNDS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE OF THA HE HAS THAT CLEAR THAT SEC IS DOING A FANTASTIC JOB, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE MISSING PICKUPS, THEY -- I'VE NEVER SAID TO BE FRUSTRATE BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT W KNOW HOW OUR VENDORS ARE DOING AND THE TASK THAT THEY HAVE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. >> I WAS DOWN AT THE WHITNEY LA RIBBON-CUTTING AND SEEING WHO I THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BETTER DIRECTORS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA EMCEEING THAT EVENT. SO NEW BUILDING IS BEFITTING TH INCREDIBLE RESEARCH GOING ON DOWN THERE. I KNOW MY DAUGHTERS TAKE A FIEL TRIP THERE AVERAGE WITH THE SCHOOL AND NOW THEY HAVE A LAB FOR BEFITTING WHAT THEY ARE DOING FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH THEY ARE STUDYING STARVATION AN AFTER THAT LOSE AN ARM FOR THEI SEE IF THEY COULD POTENTIALLY WOULD TRANSLATE INTO HUMAN REGENERATION. AND THEIR DOING SPECTACULAR THINGS. AS WE ARE TRACKING PREEMPTION'S I THINK WE ALL HAVE OUR EYE ON -- ASKING THE GOVERNOR TO VETO THE BILL. AND HOT OFF THE PRESSES, JUST HAPPEN TO READ AND ARTICLE THAT I GOT TODAY, SB 686 BUT I'M GOING TO READ AN EXCERPT FROM THE ARTICLE THAT WAS JUST BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. A LOVE LOCAL ACT INFORMED MEASURE TO MAKE IT EASIER TO CONVERT DEVELOPMENTS SURROUNDIN DEVELOPMENT SURROUNDING FAMILY -- FARM FARMLAND INTO HOUSES OR HOUSING FOR OTHER USES NO MATTE HOW MUCH THEY CAN BLOCK THESE PROJECTS. CRATES A NEW STREAMLINED PROCES FOR LAND OWNERS TO SEEK CERTIFICATION OF PROPERTY AS A COURT AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE AS A UNINCORPORATED AND UNDEVELOPED PARCEL OF 1280 ACRES OR LESS THAT SITS INSIDE OF THE THAT DEVELOPED LAND. IT WILL OPEN THE DOOR TO DEVELOPMENT EVEN IF PLANS WOULD PROHIBIT IT SO THE REASON I BRING THIS UP, WE ARE CONSTANTL TRACKING THESE EXEMPTIONS THAT CAN CONSTRAIN OUR ABILITY TO SA NO BUT IN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH BOOKS IN TALLAHASSEE HEREAFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR, A LO OF THESE BILLS ARE FILED ON THE [03:10:01] FIRST PLACE BECAUSE HER OF HAVING ISSUES WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS INFRINGING ON PEOPLE 'S PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND IS JUST ANOTHER REMINDER THAT WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN AS A LOCAL BOARD TO FOLLOW THE LAW OR TALLAHASSEE WILL UNCEREMONIOUSLY BRING US INTO COMPLIANCE. THEY CANNOT ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN BUT I KNOW THAT NO ONE ON THIS BOARD IS TRACKING 686 OF THAT'S ANOTHER LEVEL THAT WERE GOING TO HAVE T CLEAR WHEN EVALUATING APPLICATIONS IN THE FUTURE AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PART. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. I HAVE SOME PHOTOS TO SHARE. I WANTED TO SHARE THAT I KNOW W HAD PROCLAMATIONS FOR THE NATIONAL SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH AND ON FRIDAY, PARTICIPATED IN BLOCKING MY SHOES WHILE THEY WERE HERE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE. I STARTED AT W D HARTLEY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHERE SHE IS SURVIVOR HERSELF AND ABSOLUTELY AMAZING RELATING TO STUDENTS THERE. A 1500-MILE WALK TO TALLAHASSEE AND THE BETTY GRIFFIN CENTER PARTICIPATED ALONG WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. IN THE SAINT AUGUSTINE POLICE DEPARTMENT SO IT IS JUST WONDERFUL EVENT HERE AT SAINT AUGUSTINE. AND I ALSO HAD ANOTHER PHOTO TO SHARE. SERGEANT MAJOR MCDIVITT WAS HONORED AT THE MILITARY HONORS ASSOCIATION AND THE SAINT AUGUSTINE ON SATURDAY. HE WAS RECOGNIZED FOR HIS YEARS OF MILITARY SERVICE AND LEADERSHIP FOR THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY VETERANS SERVICE OFFICES. ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS GRATEFUL TO HAVE HIM HELP SO MANY OF OUR VETERANS. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT. THANK YOU. >> I APPRECIATE IT NOT GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS TO GO OVER SO LET ME TRY TO BE QUICK. I WAS HANDED A LETTER OF SUPPOR AND I'VE PUT LIKE TO ASK FOR CONSENSUS ON ANGIE'S BEHALF TO APPLY FOR A GRANT AND AS JUST WRITE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THAT GRANT. SHAYNA COME IF YOU HEAR ME, THA WAS A GO. AND WE HAVE GOT A COUPLE THINGS HERE, NUMBER ONE IS WE NEED TO LOOK AT NEGOTIATING A CONTRACT RENEWAL FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THAT FALLS TO THE CHAIR AND I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO D THAT UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS TO JUMP UP HERE AND I WOULD LIKE CONSENSUS TO START THAT. I NEED THAT CONSENSUS TO PROVID INFORMATION REGARDING ISSUES BETWEEN THE MANAGER TREAT PROGRAM. PROJECTS FOR THIS SUMMER HAVEN ADAPTATION PLAN. AND BASICALLY, IT UNTIES HIS HANDS TO ALLOW HIM TO BE ABLE T BE THAT KIND OF WHAT -- MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN BETTER THAN ME. >> WERE LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS T LOOK AT THE MANAGER TREAT PROGRAM AS WELL AS THE PROJECTS THE BOARD HAS APPROVED TO BRING BACK TO THE BOARD IN ISSUES OR CONFLICT AND LAY IT OUT THAT THESE TO HAVE OBVIOUSLY COMPETING INTERESTS BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE OF BOTH PROJECTS. >> BE JUST ME CONSENSUS FOR THAT . ALSO WHILE YOU WERE THERE, I'M LOOKING FOR SUPPORT TO COASTAL MANAGEMENT TO ENDORSE FUTURE PROJECTS QUEST STATE OF FLORIDA FOR THE SUMMER HOUSE AREA AND THIS IS BASICALLY WERE UNDER TH CONDUIT IN THE STATE. SUMMERHOUSE CAME UP TO US AND ASKED FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT WHEN THEY GO IN FRONT OF THE STATE AND THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION TO GET ASKED YOU HAS ST. JOHNS COUNTY SUPPORT AND SO WE PUT LIKE TO BE ABLE TO WRITE THOSE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR THOSE PROJECTS AND NATIONAL DAY [03:15:07] OF PRAYER IS COMING UP. AND IN THE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER, MY HOUSE CHURCH OF GOD, AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO IS WE'VE HAD PERMISSION TO HAVE A NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER BRIGHT OUTSIDE AND THAT PAST BECAUSE O THE FATHER THAT THEY BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT INSIDE THE AUDITORIUM . AND I WOULD MAKE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD TO BE ABLE TO SAY YES THANK YOU SO MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT WE WILL GO STRAIGHT TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I HAVE NO REPORT TODAY. >> UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE FOR THIS * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.