[3. SUPMIN 2026-02 Davis Mobile Home (600 Alexander Street). Request for a Special Use Permit, pursuant to Section 2.03.08 of the Land Development Code, to allow for the placement of a Manufactured/Mobile Home in Residential, Single-Family (RS-3) zoning, specifically located at 600 Alexander Street.]

SO MANY PAPERS UP HERE. OKAY, NUMBER 3, IS BRENDA --

>> WE HAVE DAVIS. >> DAVIS.

>> AND YOU ARE NOT JOHN. >> NO, SIR,.

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>> MD APPLICANT AND APPLIED FOR THAT.

>> SPECIAL USE PERMIT, HERE UP. >> AM WILLIAM DAVIS, I'M HERE ABOUT ASKING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ALEXANDER STREET.

ONCE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR MANUFACTURING HOMEOWNERS AREA.

THERE WAS ONE BEFORE, JUST WASN'T TRANSFERABLE WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. IT WILL MAKE THE PROPERTY TAX GO UP. THERE'S PLENTY OF MOBILE HOMES

AROUND HERE -- >> SORRY, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO INTERRUPT YOU FOR A SECOND. I FORGOT TO ASK THE MEMBERS FOR

ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. >> I VISITED THE SITE.

>> MISS SPIEGEL. >> I ALSO DID A SITE VISIT.

>> VISITED THE SITE ON TUESDAY HERE.

>> OKAY, ANYONE ELSE? SORRY FOR THAT INTERRUPTION.

THAT SITE? >> I AM NOT A GREAT SPEAKER, JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT PERMIT TO MOVE THE MOBILE HOME, A

PERMANENT RESIDENCE HOME. >> AND THIS IS A NEW MOBILE HOME

AS I UNDERSTAND IT. >> YES.

>> THEN I APPRECIATE ONE OF OUR STAFF PUTS IN THEIR OTHER MOBILE HOMES IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS -- MAP THAT THE STAFF PROVIDES IS VERY HELPFUL TO ME AS WELL. MR. GREEN.

>> THIS IS A NEW MOBILE HOME, CORRECT?

>> YES, SIR. >> WAS THIS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED

ONE TIME? >> YES.

IT WAS APPROVED FOR COOPERATION AND THAT WAS NOT TRANSFERABLE.

SO WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IT COULDN'T BE TRANSFERRED.

>> OKAY, IT SEEM LIKE IT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT.

SO IT WAS APPROVED BUT NOT UNDER THE CURRENT OWNER.

IT WAS NOT TRANSFERABLE. SO, SO I'M ASKING FOR APPROVAL

>> QUICK QUESTION, ON THE CORNER OF ALEXANDER AND MADURO ARE THOSE STREETS GOING TO STAY ON THAT CORNER?

>> I WAS PLANNING ON TAKING THEM OUT.

>> GLAD TO HEAR. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER? SEEING NONE, WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY FOR DISCUSSIONS AND A MOTION, MR. GREEN.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE SPECIAL USE PERMIT 2020 6-02X 600 ALEXANDER STREET BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF FACTS AND CONDITIONS

IN OUR STAFF REPORT. >> MOTION BY MR. GREEN, SECONDED BY MR. LEBOWSKI. ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO LET'S GET THE VOTING SCREEN ON. THERE IT IS.

PASSES ANONYMOUSLY AMIRC AT LEAST I THINK IT DOES.

IT SAYS SIX. SO CONGRATULATIONS, YOU CAN USE

[2. SUPMIN 2025-16 Howington Residence. Request for a Special Use Permit to allow for a Manufactured/Mobile Home as a residence in Residential, Single-Family (RS-1) zoning, pursuant to Land Development Code Section 2.03.08, specifically located at 6241 Brough Road.]

YOUR PERMIT. HAVE A GOOD ONE.

>> GOING TO GO BACK ITEM NUMBER 2 IS JEFFREY BETTINGER HERE. COME ON UP.

>> THIS IS SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR IT MANUFACTURED MOBILE HOME

IN RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

102 OAK LEAF POINT. I REPRESENT THE HARRINGTON.

>> LET ME STOP YOU ONE MINUTE I NEED TO ASK FOR EX PARTE ON THIS. ANY EX-PARTE?

>> I VISITED THE SITE. >> MR. OLSON.

>> I WAS AT THE SITE ON TUESDAY, TOOK A LOOK.

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>> PROCEED, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU.

THIS IS QUITE STRAIGHTFORWARD. THE MAJORITY OF HOMES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE MANUFACTURED HOMES AND THIS WILL BE A BRAND NEW MANUFACTURED HOME TACTFULLY SKIRTED OF MATERIALS REMOVED AND WILL FIT WELL WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IN FACT THEY LOOK VERY NICE, BRAND NEW.

WON'T TAKE ANY MORE OF YOUR TIME, OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.

>> QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. I SEE MR. LOBANOVSKY.

>> IT'S A NICE LOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE THOSE TREES

THERE? >> , THE OWNER WANTS TO LEAVE A BUFFER AROUND, SAVE AS MANY AS WE CAN.

THERE ARE SEVERAL NICE LARGE TREES.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? SEEING NONE, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE SEEING NONE, BACK IN DISCUSSION FOR A MOTION.

I SEE NOBODY WANTING TO SPEAK. OKAY, MR. GREEN.

>> THE MOHNOUR IS ONE APPLICANT. >> SO IT'S TRANSFERABLE -- DIDN'T WANT HIM TO HAVE TO COME BACK.

>> CORRECT. >> IN THE PAST, I'VE ASKED THAT WOULD BE TRANSFERRED PROPERTY OWNERSHIP HERE CAN WE ASK FOR THAT? YES FROM NOW SOMEBODY WOULD SELL THAT PROPERTY AND WANTED TO REPLACE THAT HOME WITH A NEW MOBILE HOME. IS THAT A POSSIBILITY?

>> TO CHIME IN FOR THIS REGARDING THE QUESTION OF TRANSFERABILITY, THIS APPROVAL ORDER HAS IT AS TRANSFERABLE, ESPECIALLY THE USE PERMIT GRANTED CAN I ASSUME THE APPLICANT'S WIFE AND SHALL BE TRANSFERABLE.

>> SO THIS ONE IS WRITTEN THAT WAY.

>> YES. >> VERY GOOD I GOT THAT OUT OF THE WAY. I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SPECIAL USE PERMIT 2025 DASH 16.

HOW YOU PRONOUNCE THAT. RESIDENT BASED ON FINDINGS OF FACT IN THE CONDITIONS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY MR. GREEN HERE I THINK

MR. OLSEN WANTED TO SECOND THAT. >> I SECOND THE MOTION.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I THINK WE ARE READY TO VOTE UNLESS THERE'S ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION HERE OKAY. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY PIER

CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU.

, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME HERE I SEE OUR PRESENTER FOR ITEM NUMBER 1 IS STILL NOT IN THE ROOM.

[4. CPA(SS) 2025-15 4060 County Road 13 S. Request for a Small-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment to change the Future Land Use Map designation of approximately 18.27 acres of land from Agricultural-Intensive (A-I) to Residential-A (RES-A) with a text amendment limiting the property to a maximum of one (1) single family dwelling unit; located at 4060 County Road 13A South.]

SO I THINK WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 4, WHICH IS AMENDMENT SMALL SCALE SO JOAN KATHLEEN, LEONH.

>> AMAN.KHAN LEON, THIS IS MY WIFE KATHLEEN.

WE WERE TRYING TO -- SORRY, THIS IS A REFERENCE TO 4060 COUNTY ROAD 13 AND WE ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR

AGRICULTURAL TO RESIDENTIAL. >> WE NEED EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. -- NO WE DON'T NEED, SORRY TO

INTERRUPT YOU. >> OKAY, I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS BACKWARDS. GO AHEAD I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

>> SO THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST ACCURATE DEPICTION OF THE PROPERTY, IF YOU WERE TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THAT PROBABLY ANSWERS THEM ALL OTHER THAN THE LOCATION OF THE HOLE.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> NOT YET.

ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION? THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT WE JUST WANT TO BUILD OUR HOME ON THIS PROPERTY AND RIGHT NOW IT'S AGRICULTURAL, WE WOULD LIKE TO

CHANGE IT TO RESIDENTIAL. >> AND THAT'S ON THE EASTERN

PARCEL. >> CORRECT AND I SAW YOU ARE GOING TO -- I'M GOING TO LET PEOPLE SPEAK BEFORE I DO.

SO MR. OLSEN. >> MY QUESTION IS WHEN YOU

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PROPOSE YOUR HOME CONSTRUCTION, GFGHHF YOUR ACCESS OF 13S, I GUESS YOU'RE GOING TO BE NEEDING TO USE PHIL FOR THAT.

YOU HAVE PARTIAL WETLAND CREDIT FOR THAT WORK THEY ACCESS.

WILL YOU BRING IN AND FILL TO ELEVATE YOUR HOME, ALSO COULD BE

DESCRIBED SOME OF THEM. >> EARTHWORK WILL NEED TO BE DOING? SO WE HIRED A CONTRACTOR AND THEY HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH HOW HIGH THE ELEVATIONS NEED TO BE FOR THE DRIVE. WE DIDN'T GET ALL THE MITIGATION CREDITS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE -- THE HOME ITSELF, WE'RE LOOKING AT SLAB. SO IT WILL BE MAXIMUM OF 33 FEET I BELIEVE IT WAS WHAT WE HAD -- ATTENDED TO APPLY FOR FOR THAT.

THE ELEVATION OF THE HOME. I'M NOT A CONTRACTOR SO I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW MUCH IS GOING TO GO UP FROM GRADE BEFORE THE

SLAB IS POURED. >> YOU DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION ON THE EXISTING GRADE?

>> NO, WE DO NOT AT THIS TIME. WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT THE STYLE OF HOME IS GOING TO BE AND MY CONTRACTOR SUGGESTED THAT SLAB WOULD BE THE BEST COURSE AND THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF RAISED ELEVATION.

>> OKAY. AND THEN OF COURSE YOU HAVE SOME

-- HEAVILY TREE ALSO. >> LOOKING TO IMPACT THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TREES POSSIBLE. OF COURSE DRIVEWAYS THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT BUT OTHER THAN THAT THE BUFFER IS GOING TO BE

PRETTY DENSE. >> WILL YOU BE DOING BULKHEADS ALONG THE ACCESS ROAD? LEADING UP TO THE WETLANDS

YOU'RE COMING THROUGH. >> SO THERE'S A SILT SCREEN THAT WILL BE PUT UP OR PROTECTED SCREEN THAT WILL BE PUT UP BY THE CONTRACTOR. IS ALREADY INDICATED TO ME IT WILL BE 30 FEET OF A BUFFER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREEN LINE INDICATES THE WETLANDS AND I BELIEVE REQUIRED 25 EAST, PLAYING SAFE, LIKE YOU'D LIKE TO GO AN ADDITIONAL FIVE.

SO WE HAVE THAT PLACED. THE CULVERT HAS ALREADY BEEN PERMITTED AND APPROVED AND IS ALREADY IN PLACE.

>> THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS, THANK YOU.

>> THE CULVERT YOU JUST MENTIONED, THAT'S ON THE

ROADWAY. >> WHAT ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE WETLANDS? BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS YOU'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING A ROADWAY CLASSIFIER, SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE WETLANDS. IS THERE A DRAINAGE LINES ARE GOING TO BE GOING BETWEEN THE TWO WETLANDS OR IS IT GOING TO BE BLACK? MY CONCERN IS ONCE YOU BLOCK IT OFF IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THAT PORTION.

>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

SO THE DRAINAGE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS DIRECTED TO THE DRAINAGE DITCH. THE ELEVATION SENDS EVERYTHING TO THE DRAINAGE DITCH, AND MY NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTHEAST ALSO HAS A DRAINAGE DITCH THAT RUNS TO THE ONE THAT RUNS PARALLEL TO THE 13TH. SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE PROPERTY THAT IS TO THE NORTHWEST OF OUR DRIVEWAY FEEDS INTO THE DRAINAGE DITCH THAT IS ON 13S. N TO THE RIGHT IT FEEDS TO 13S AS WELL AS TO MY NEIGHBOUR'S DITCH WHICH DIVIDES OUR PROPERTY. WHICH FEEDS DIRECTLY INTO 13S.

>> ANYONE ELSE? WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR THE REST

OF THE PROPERTY? >> NOTHING, WE WOULD NOT TOUCH

THE TREE. >> SPEAKER-08:

>> WILL WE BE WILLING TO DONATE CONVERSATION?

>> GO AHEAD. >> I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO JOHNS COUNTY WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT WITH THE ATTEMPTS TO DONATE -- THE WEST SIDE AND INCURS IT WILL BE WILLING TO DO THAT.

WE WANT TO KEEP IT CONSERVED. ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO DO THAT

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THAT'S THE INTENTION. >> SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

>> MR. SMITH HAD A COMMENT I BELIEVE.

>> THANK YOU. NO PARTICULAR COMMENT, I WAS JUST GOING TO CHIME IN THAT OUR TECHNICAL DIVISION ON REVIEW OF THIS APPLICATION HAD MADE NOTE ABOUT THE WETLANDS AND THAT THEY OF COURSE HAVE TO UNDERGO ENGINEERING ANALYSIS IF THERE ARE ANY EFFECT THEY HAVE TO IT. THE APPLICANT SPOKE TO HIM VERY WELL. NOTHING MUCH ELSE THERE.

>> SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS? YES, SIR, COME FORWARD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND LET US HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.

YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES. >> MY NAME IS ROBERT MILLER, FIRST I HAVE A QUESTION IF YOU GET THE ZONING, IS IT GOING TO AFFECT MY PLACE -- IS IT GOING TO CHANGE MY ZONING.

>> I SERIOUSLY DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO CHANGE YOUR ZONING BUT WE'LL ASK JACOB AND THE ATTORNEY IF HE WISHES TO.

>> FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE CIRCUIT IT'S NOT THE REZONING IT'S A LAND USE CHANGE THE ZONING IS STAYING THE SAME, IT'S NOT AFFECTING THEIR ZONING AND AFFECTING ANY SURROUNDING PROPERTY ZONING THEY CURRENTLY HAVE AN AGRICULTURAL LAND USE WHICH REQUIRES 20 ACRES OF LAND TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP ON AND THEY ONLY HAVE 18 AND A HALF. SO THEY ARE ASKING FOR A TRANSFER RESIDENTIAL SO THEY CAN BUILD ONE A HOUSE.

>> THAT WOULDN'T REASON MY PLACE?

>> DOESN'T CHANGE ANYBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY?

>> THANK YU FOR YOUR TIME. >> HOPE TO SEE YOU SOON.

>> SEEING NO OTHER PEOPLE TO SPEAK, WE ARE BACK IN THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. MR. OLSEN.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT SMALL SCALE 2025 DASH 15, BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT, AMENDMENTS PROVIDED BY THE STAFF

REPORT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. OLSEN, SECOND BY MISS SPIEGEL.

ANY DISCUSSION? MR. LABANOWSKI.

>> BEFORE WE VOTE, I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER DONATING THE LAND TO

PRESERVE IT HERE THANK YOU. >> DEFINITELY, I SECOND THAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, LET'S GET THE VOTING SCREEN UP. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[1. PUD 2024-02 10150 Cartwheel Bay PUD. Request to rezone approximately 3.08 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Planned Unit Development (PUD) to allow for a maximum 11,500 square feet Automobile Repair Facility with a maximum of three (3) active service bays located at 10150 Cartwheel Bay Avenue.]

UNANIMOUSLY, CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU.

>> I SEE THE MR. ENTERED THE ROOM.

WE'RE NOW GOING TO TAKE ITEM NUMBER-ONE PICK ANY EXPERT?

MR. LABANOWSKI. >> I RECEIVED ONE EMAIL SINCE OUR LAST MEETING PLUS I'VE PROVIDED 11 EMAILS AND VISITED

THE SITE AS WELL. >> MISS SPIEGEL.

>> YES. A NUMBER OF EMAILS CORRECT MANY FOR SOME AGAINST. MARCH 27TH I DID A SITE VISIT THE DAY I MET THE MANAGER. SPOKE WITH MR. ON THAT DAY TODAY I DID ANOTHER SITE VISIT AND I'M OUT WITH THEM AND THEIR SON AND

THEIR STAFF. >> THANK YOU.

>> VISITED THIS SITE PRIOR TO THEIR HEARING.

LAST HEARING ON THIS REQUEST. AND AT THAT POINT, PRIOR TO THE LAST HEARING, I HAD TWO PHONE CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. LORTIE AND I HAD ADDITIONAL COMMUNICATIONS SOME OF WHICH ARE HERE TODAY AND SOME ARE IN THE PACKET OF ADVANCEMENT.

>> MR. GREEN. >> CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY

STAFF. >> AND I DROVE BY THE SITE PRIOR TO THE LAST MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO.

I HAVE SEEN QUITE A FEW EMAILS FOR AND AGAINST.

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HAVE BEEN PASSED OUT. SO THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S GRATITUDE IN ALLOWING ME TO SHIFT THE MEETING UPSTAIRS.

HOPE I NEVER JINX MYSELF FOR BEING NUMBER 1 AGAIN.

THIS IS THE CARTWHEEL -- WE HAD A VERY TIGHT TURNAROUND, IT'S BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH. WE'RE WORKING INTO THE NIGHT LAST NIGHT TO GET EVERYTHING PRINTED AND UPDATED.

WE DO HAVE SOME TWEAKS FROM THE LAST HEARING JUST AS WE'VE ADDRESSED SOME OF THE STUFF COMMENT, BEEN THE INTENT OF THE APPLICATION REMAINS INTACT FROM OUR LAST HEARING AND THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF THE AUTO REPAIR FACILITY ONLY, JUST TO REITERATE PHASE TWO, THE BOARDING FACILITY, THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT IS NOT INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT ANYMORE.

I THINK CLEARED UP ALL THE MISCOMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE NEW APPLICANT AND WORKED THROUGH WITH STAFF HERE. SO THE PED, CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER MEDICAL SERVICES, THE NEW APPLICANT IS REALLY IN THE AUTO MECHANICS -- AUTOMATICS USA. AGAIN, SITE IS UP HERE ON THE NORTHWESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY, NORTHWEST OF 210 AND 22, WHERE WE ALSO HAVE COUNTY IMPROVEMENTS COMING TO THAT INTERSECTION TO HELP SOME OF THE REGIONAL TRAFFIC HERE THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE EXISTING SITE. AGAIN, SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS, ON THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS SURROUNDED THEIR.

EXISTING LAND USE -- EXISTING ZONING IS OPEN RURAL.

SURROUNDED BY PED. NO INTEND TO CHANGE THE LAND USE BUT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NORTHWEST SECTOR CATEGORY REZONING THE PED. AS YOU HEARD LAST TIME IN, AUTO MECHANICS IS A FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS HERE.

DO NOT UNDERTAKE THE MAJOR RECONSTRUCTION AND/OR BODYWORK COLLISION REPAIRS, NO BANGING, THIS IS YOUR TYPICAL AUTO REPAIR FACILITY. SOME OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE REVISED TEXT AND NDP MAP INCLUDE THE FACT THAT IT WILL REMAIN ON THE WELLAND SEPTIC, THE EXISTING STORMWATER POND IN THE BACK OR EXISTING POND THAT WAS DUG THERE PREVIOUSLY WILL BE PART OF OUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. WE ARE PROPOSING TO UPGRADE THE DRIVEWAY. YOU CAN SEE IN ONE BOX THERE, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 19 FEET WIDE SO THERE'LL BE SOME WIDENING OF THAT TO MEET THE COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WE WILL BE ADDING SOME PAVED PARKING AND NOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT VERBALLY LAST TIME BUT IT'S NOW VISIBLE ON THE MAP HERE WE'VE ASKED FOR REDUCING THE ACTUAL RECORD PARKIN, BUT FEEL THAT THE PARKING PROVIDED THERE UP FRONT SHOULD NEVER HAVE MORE CUSTOMERS THAN THAT AT ONE TIME FOR PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE FACILITY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING THE GATES BACK TO ALLOW FOR THE ON SITE STACKING AND SCREENING WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE 6-FOOT FENCE ALONG THE FRONT AND DOWN 100 FEET ON THE SIDES OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE IN THAT BLUE DASHED LINE, CONSISTENT WITH AUTO SERVICES AND SERVICE BAYS AND WE'LL BE ADDING PLANTINGS WITH OUR COMMERCIAL PLANTS TO THE PERIMETER BUFFERS THERE IN THE SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT HEDGE PICK.

>> ASKING FOR SOME WAIVERS, ONE OF THOSE WAIVERS IS TO ALLOW UP TO TEN SERVERS BASED ON THE SITE, THE PROPERTY IS 3 ACRES SURROUNDED BY WETLANDS AND CONSERVATION AND PONDS, WITH THAT SHOPPING CENTER TO THE SOUTHEAST.

THE SERVICE BAY 100-FOOT SETBACK FROM THE RESIDENTIAL USE BEING APPROXIMATELY 215 AND 305 FEET. SO THAT'S 2 OUT OF 3 TIMES THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. THE LANDSCAPING PLANTINGS IN THE

6-FOOT -- SOLID FENCE. >> PROPOSED WHERE THOSE BAYS

WOULD BE LOCATED. >> AGAIN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A SECOND AGO, PROVIDING THE TEN PARKING SPACES ON THE 188 UP FRONT TECHNICALLY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIRED 23, WE DO HAVE SUFFICIENT HARDENED AREA, AT LEAST COMPACTED GROUND

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FOR THE UPGRADED PARKING OR THE ACCESSORY PARKING TO BE ON GRASS. ALLOWING THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT EDGE TO REMAIN CORRECT BUT WE DO NEED TO ASK FOR A WAIVER TO ALLOW THAT EXISTING STORMWATER POND THERE TO REMAIN IN THE BUFFER AND IN THE EDGE PICK AGAIN, THAT'S AN EXISTING POND BASICALLY SURROUNDED BY WETLANDS THERE.

REQUESTING TO CLUSTER THE PLANTINGS ALONG THE WAY THAT THE SAME NUMBER OF TREES ARE PLANTED HERE JUST A LITTLE BIT DENSER WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY GOING TO SEE THEM.

HERE YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE WAIVERS, TWO ON THE BOTTOM FOR THE EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT PROTRUDE A BIT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE AND AT THE TOP RIGHT OF THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE EXISTING STORMWATER POND GO TO THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE THERE. ALL THIS APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE AND AT THE BOTTOM THERE THE GENERAL BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL IS WHERE THIS AUTO REPAIR FACILITY FALLING TO. CONSISTENT WITH THE NORTHWEST SECTOR, ENCOURAGING VARIETY OF LAND USE FOR HOUSING AND IMPROVING JOBS TO HOUSING BALANCE KEEPING COMMERCIAL USES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALLOWING THEM TO BE COMMERCIAL SPORTS SERVICES YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT HEATMAP FROM THE LAST PRESENTATION SHOWING ALL THE CUSTOMERS OF AUTOMEDICS SUBDIVISION. THERE IT IS AGAIN, JUST FOR REFERENCE, ALL THE BLUE PASS CUSTOMERS AND OUR PRESENT CUSTOMERS OF AUTOMEDICS. AGAIN COMMUNITY OWNED MAJOR BODYWORK OR PAINTING OR HEAVY RECONSTRUCTION OF THE VEHICLE'S.

WITH A, READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BROADER PUBLIC MAY

HAVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

>> JUST TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH A FACILITY LIKE THIS. DO THEY DO WORK LIKE AUTO BODY

REPAIR -- >> LET ME FINISH THE QUESTION.

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE A GOOD CUSTOMER, THE CUSTOMER COMES IN AND SAYS I WANT YOU TO REPLACE THIS ENGINE, BODY REPAIR I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY CONFUSION HERE WHERE SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SAYS YOU'RE VIOLATING THAT BECAUSE THERE IS SOMETHING TO

WORK OUT. >> DON'T BELIEVE -- ARE YOU DONE WITH THE QUESTION? SORRY.

>> DONE WITH THE QUESTION. >> THERE'S NO BODYWORK PAINTING OR ANY OF THAT THAT OCCURS ON SITE VIA THE APPLICANT OR ANY SUBCONSULTANT, IF YOU WILL SUBCONTRACTORS.

>> THE QUESTION IS DO THEY OFFER THAT SERVICE OFF-SITE?

>> I'M GUESSING THE OTHER ACTUAL BODY SHOPS IS WHERE THOSE PEOPLE WOULD GO IF THEY COME IN OR CALLED WITHOUT QUESTION.

>> THANK YOU. >> MISS SPIEGEL.

>> HELLO. I TOOK SOME TIME LOOKING THROUGH THE FACEBOOK SITE AND YELP REVIEWS AND THE LIST OF THINGS THEY DO. IT DOES SOUND LIKE EVERYTHING THEY LIST IS A LONG LIST OF THINGS THEY DO ARE QUIET THINGS.

HAVE BEEN OUT THERE TWICE AND IT'S BEEN QUIET, HAVEN'T HEARD A LOT OF POUNDING AND BANGING. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS SINCE THE LAST TIME I WAS OUT THERE, DID YOU DO SOMETHING WITH THE FRONT FENCE AND MAKE IT MORE --

>> I BELIEVE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S

HAPPENED SINCE THEN OR NOT. >> IT JUST LOOKS DIFFERENT AND

MAYBE I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION. >> THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING YET OKAY. SO THE FRONT FENCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE BUFFER FOR INCOMPATIBILITY CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT, ONE MORE. TO THE WIDER PICTURE.

IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE STREET. >> I'M TRYING HERE.

>> THERE WE GO. THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET, THERE'S A REALLY THICK TREES THERE THAT I DIDN'T NOTICE BEFORE I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE INCOMPATIBILITY BUFFER IN THE FRONT THERE BUT YOU DO INTEND TO DO A BIT MORE PLANTING THAN WHAT THERE IS IN THE FRONT JUST ON KARTAL BAY DRIVE.

>> MOST DEFINITELY MORE THAN WHAT IS THERE AND PART OF THIS REQUEST WAS TO ACTUALLY CLUSTER THE PLANTINGS THE CODE WOULD REQUIRE FOR ALL PURPOSES TO PLANT TREES AGAINST TREES, TO

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LOAD THE DENSITY OF TREES ALONG CARTWHEEL BAY AVENUE SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS THERE AND PLANTING TREES AGAINST TREES.

>> MY OTHER QUESTION IS THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF VEHICLES PARKED ON THE PROPERTY. WHAT ARE THOSE VEHICLES?

>> I BELIEVE THERE ARE VEHICLES WAITING FOR SERVICE BUT I CAN GET SOME MORE DISTINCT ANSWERS FOR YOU FOR THAT.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE'S VEHICLES FOR SALES OR WAITING FOR A PART OR -- BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT.

PROBABLY 60 CARS ON THE PROPERTY, MAYBE END ABOUT TRAILER PARK SO I JUST WONDER, ARE THEY BEING STORED OR JUST

WAITING TO BE FINISHED? >> I'LL WORK ON THAT ANSWER FOR YOU. PARKING AREA SCREENING, AND THAT WILL JUST BE INCLUDED IN JUST A BUFFER THE SCENIC EDGE THAT GOES

AROUND THE PROPERTY. >> YES, MA'AM,.

>> OKAY. AND IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE NEW NDP WE RECEIVED TODAY STRICKEN OFF ALMOST EVERY USE BILL EXCEPT FOR

THIS USE. >> OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF AND THE TECH DEPARTMENT, IF THERE IS SOMEBODY HERE?

CLIENT? >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> HIGH. THERE WERE A COUPLE COMMENTS ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY AND MOVING THE GATE AND SOUNDS LIKE THOSE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND NOT WAVED.

CORRECT? >> I BELIEVE YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THE 75-FOOT SEPARATION BETWEEN THE ROADWAY AND THE GATES.

USUALLY THAT'S MORE APPLICABLE TO SOMETHING WITH AN ACTIVE GATE WHERE YOU HAVE TRAFFIC STACKING -- THINK LIKE A GATED ENTRY TO A NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT'S LIKE A ONE TIME OPENING ONE TIME CLOSING. SO THEIR WORKER MANAGER SHOWS UP FIRST, OPENS UP IN THE MORNING, LEAVES IT OPEN ALL DAY LONG, CLOSING CLOSES IT IN THE AFTERNOON AND LEAVES SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN ACTIVE VEHICLE STACKING SITUATION.

AS LONG AS THE GATE IS PLACED SO THAT THE CAR THEY'RE IN IS OFF THE ROADWAY WHEN OPENING THE GATE, THE COUNTY IS USUALLY

PRETTY FINE WITH IT. >> OKAY.

THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE PAVING REQUIREMENTS TO GET THE IDEA TO

TEN SPOTS IN FRONT. >> HAS TO BE PLACED -- I. BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WAS ASKING FOR SOME --

>> FROM 23 DOWN TO TEN. >> SO AS LONG AS THE ADAS ARE PAVED THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PART BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE -- THEY'RE ALSO RESISTANT. THE REST OF THE PARKING MECHANIC IS NOT A REAL HIGH TURNOVER TYPE OF BUSINESS.

IT'S NOT LIKE A GAS STATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VEHICLES A DAY.

SO UNPAVED PARKING THAT IS SOMETHING THE AGENCY IS WILLING TO IMPROVE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT OUR PARTICULAR STAFF WOULD

OBJECT TO FOR THIS. >> OKAY, THANK YOU, SIR.

SO THIS AMOUNT OF PAVING DOESN'T -- WOULD THERE BE ANY NEW

STORMWATER? >> NOT NECESSARILY.

OUR STAFF REALLY HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO EVALUATE THE NEWEST PROPOSAL. SO THE TYPE -- WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT SQUARE FOOTAGE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO EVALUATE IT FROM A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE IT DOESN'T SOUND ALL THAT LARGE. IT'S JUST TEN PARKING SPOTS TO GET TO IT OR MANEUVERING AISLE TO GET TO IT.

ONE THING IS, IF THE AGENCY CHOOSES TO WAIVE THE COUNTY'S STORMWATER MANAGEMENT CRITERIA FOR THE ADDITIONAL PAVEMENT, I BELIEVE THAT WAS BEING ASKED FOR.

IT DOESN'T TRANSLATE TO ANY STATE REQUIREMENTS.

SO IF WE GET A LOCAL JURISDICTION REQUIREMENTS, WE STILL DON'T GET THAT BIG SO THE STATE ULTIMATELY SAY THE REQUIREMENT -- THE COUNTY HAS EXCEPTIONS SET UP IN ARTICLE SIX FOR STORMWATER. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS ONE WOULD QUALIFY OR NOT BASED ON THESE NEW NUMBERS.

WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT.

>> OKAY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO

ACCORDING TO OUR CODE ANYWAY. >> TO FURTHER WHAT HE SAID, A LOT OF THE TECHNICAL STUFF WOULD BE REVEALED UNDER THE COMMERCIAL

PLANS. >> FOR DEVELOPMENT.

>> I BELIEVE THAT THE EXISTING POND ON SITE WILL PROVIDE ENOUGH VOLUME TO TREAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT CRITERIA THIS AREA THAT WAS PROPOSED.

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>> I DON'T BELIEVE -- I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THE WAIVER WAS AGAINST STORMWATER.

I BELIEVE IT WAS AGAINST REMOVING THE POND FROM THE

BUFFER. >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT I SAW AS

WELL. >> DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY LENIENCY ON MEETING TECHNICAL CRITERIA FOR TREATMENT ATTENUATION IT WAS JUST NOT HAPPY TO FILL THAT POND.

>> OKAY, ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE IT.

WE CAN JUST GO AND -- >> A FEW QUESTIONS HERE BASED ON WHAT WE RECEIVED FROM YOU TODAY CORRECT PHASE TWO IS OUT.

SO WE'RE ONLY WORKING ON THE POD AS PROPOSED, THAT WOULD BE PHASE ONE. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES. REQUESTING ONLY THE AUTO REPAIR

FACILITY, NOT THE VET CLINIC. >> YOU'RE NOW PROPOSING TO COMPLETE PUD WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF APPROVAL.

>> COMPLETE THE IMPROVEMENTS YES, SIR.

>> BASED ON THE MATERIALS AND STAFF ANALYSIS, GOING TO TEN BAYS EXCEEDING THREE BAYS PUTS IT OUTSIDE OF COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL USE AND WOULD REQUIRE A LAND USE CHANGE IN LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY HERE SO I GUESS IT'S MORE THAN AWAY IT CAN HAPPEN. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> MR. CHAIR I'LL SPEAK TO A NUMBER OF THE QUESTION.

SO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S QUITE CONFUSING BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE COMPRESS OUR TIMESCALES.

WE HAVE TO PUBLISH A WEEK AGO AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE STAFF IN ALL THIS INTERVENING TIME AND WHAT THE APPLICANT -- SO WE'VE ADDRESSED EVERYTHING PART OF THE BAY COUNT WAS NOT JUST THE AMOUNT OF BASS BUT IT WAS THE MAJOR AUTOSERVICE REPAIR. THE APPLICANT HAS REMOVED THAT.

IN FACT THEY ADDED THAT AS A PROHIBITIVE ITEM IN THERE IF I RECALL CORRECTLY THEY'RE SIMPLY ASKING FOR A WAIVER TO THE AMOUNT OF BAYS SO THE TYPICAL AMOUNT OF BASE BY OUR CODE DOES SAY THREE BUT IT DOES ALLOW FOR A WAIVER AND IT DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR A CAP ON THE AMOUNT. THE NUMBER OF BAYS ISN'T STRICTLY THE REASON WE WERE RECOMMENDING AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS DUE TO THE INTENSITY WE HAD CONCERNS WITH WHICH HAS NOW BEEN

ADDRESSED. >> OKAY.

ACTUALLY, I GUESS IT'S BETTER TO APPROVE THE WAIVER AND KEEP THE LAND USE DESIGNATION CORRECT BECAUSE PRESUMABLY AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THIS SITE WILL BE -- COULD BE REDEVELOPED.

IT WOULD HAVE TO COME IN FOR A TOTALLY NEW MAJOR MODIFICATION OR NEW POD IF ANY OTHER USE OTHER THAN THIS AUTO BODY USE INSIDE CONFIGURATION WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW WOULD HAPPEN.

BUT IF IT WERE AT A HIGHER INTENSITY LAND USE, THAT COULD CREATE PROBLEMS OR ADD CONCERNS FOR PRESUMABLY NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS OUTSIDE THE INFLUENCES AND ALL THAT.

SO WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT WE'VE HAD HERE AND STUDY RELATIVE TO BUFFERING IN PARTICULAR A FULL BUFFERING -- ATTENTION TO THE WEST BOUNDARY, BECAUSE OF CONCERNS THAT IS IMMEDIATELY ACROSS CARTWHEEL BAY STREET BAY, WHATEVER -- RESIDENTIAL AREA.

>> SO THAT WAS PART OF THE WAIVER WE ASKED FOR AND NOW WE'VE LOST OUR LASER POINTER BUT IF YOU LOOK ALONG THAT BLUE DASHED LINE ON THE SCREEN, IN SHORT, WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO, THE COUNTY CODE WOULD REQUIRE EQUIDISTANT PLANTING AROUND THE

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ENTIRE PERIMETER AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO IS NOT PLANT THE PERIMETER THE ABUTS THE WETLANDS AND EXISTING TREES BUT REDUCE THE SPACING AND PUT THOSE TREES ALONG CRISWELL BAY AVENUE TO INCREASE THE DENSITY OF PLANTINGS, THUS ADDING MORE AGITATION THAN THE CODE REQUIRES ALONG THAT RIGHT OF WAY.

>> SO, DOES THAT SATISFY THE LATEST STAFF ANALYSIS?

>> THROUGH THE CHAIR, JUST FOR THE RECORD AND FOR ANYBODY LISTENING, AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN DOING REVIEW OF THIS JUST OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS. THE 2-WEEK-OLD POD.

>> WE TOOK A LOT OF ISSUES USING THE STAFF REPORT AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT THIS ENTIRE TIME.

AGAIN WE'VE ONLY HAD IT IN OUR HANDS FOR ABOUT A DAY OR SO.

SO SOME OF MY TEAM HAS NOT EVEN HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO FINISH THE REVIEW BUT A REVIEW, YES, I FEEL THEY HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING APPROPRIATE RESPONSES AND ADJUSTING THE TEXT ACCORDINGLY TO MEET ALL THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGULATIONS THAT BROADLY SPEAKING EVERYTHING IS SATISFIED.

IT'S NOT SATISFIED FULLY TYPEKIT CERTAINLY -- IT'S VERY FAR TO

THE WAIVER. >> THANK YOU.

ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, APPROVING THIS PLUS APPROVING THE WAIVERS AS REQUESTED TODAY, WITH THAT -- I GUESS REQUESTED FOR BOTH OF YOU, WOULD THAT MEAN THAT THE PROPERTY OR THE BUSINESS COULD FURTHER EXPAND FROM ITS LEVEL OF BUSINESS ACTIVITY TODAY OR WOULD WE RECOMMEND SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE THE CASE OR IS THIS TO ESSENTIALLY -- I GUESS CAUGHT AFIRE LEGITIMISE PLUS THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE HAVE AS

PART OF A POD? >> I WOULD SAY IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE ONGOING ACTIVITY, THERE'S NO NEW STRUCTURE PROPOSED HERE NO

EXPANSION PROPOSED. >> SO NO NEW VEHICLE ACTIVITY ON CARTWHEEL BAY OTHER THAN WHAT IS THERE NOW RELATIVE TO THIS BUSINESS BECAUSE IT'S AN ACTION TO APPROVE THIS WOULD NOT INCREASE ANY TRAFFIC ACTIVITY TO AND FROM THE BUSINESS.

>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO, NO, SIR. >> OKAY.

BACK TO MR. SMITH, IT'S PRETTY AMBITIOUS SCHEDULE FOR SIX MONTHS TO COMPLETE THIS WORK GIVEN THE APPLICANT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME OF THIS BUFFERING AND OTHER WORK PRIOR TO EVEN THIS HEARING. WHAT HAPPENS IF THE WORK IS NOT COMPLETED IN SIX MONTHS AND MAYBE DRAG OUT FOR A LONG TIME?

HOW IS THAT HANDLED? >> I WILL SAY THAT THE ABILITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO DO SITE IMPROVEMENTS UNDER -- THEY HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE FOR OPERATING IN THE WRONG ZONING AND SO FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND DO ANY SORT OF SITE IMPROVEMENTS LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS SO ON AND SO FORTH IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE WOULD NEVER APPROVE IT BECAUSE WE WOULD SAY, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE HERE BECAUSE OF THIS THE FIRST STEP INTO COMING INTO COMPLIANCE FOR THAT, IF THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN DO IT WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME I DON'T HAVE ANY REASON TO BELIEVE NOT. I'M TRYING TO GET MY EYES ON THE TIMELINE REAL QUICK BUT I'LL PASS IT TO --

>> THE LEVEL OF CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY HERE PREP AND PAVING, WE COULD BUILD A LOT MORE IN SIX MONTHS, HONESTLY.

SO I THINK THE APPLICANT IS READY TO BE A GOOD COMMUNITY STEWARD. WANTED TO DO SOME OF THIS WORK IN ADVANCE AND WE WANT TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESSES SO WE CAN TURN THE COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION PLAN AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS. ALL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE UNDER THE GOALS OF THE INSPECTOR AND THE PROCESS THAT ANY DEVELOPMENT WAS FOR COMMERCIAL SITE PLANNING PERMIT IS ISSUED.

>> THAT COULD BURROW INTO -- LATER WITH COUNTY STAFF AS TO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A POD MISSES IT'S COMPLETED SCHEDULE.

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THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THE ANSWERS.

>> JUST GOING TO GO A TINY BIT MORE ON THE RIGHT SO THE PROJECT PHASING IN THE CURRENT RED LINE IS THAT THE POD SHOULD BE DEVELOPED IN ONE PHASE AND SHALL COMMENCE WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF APPROVAL. COMMENCEMENT IS DEFINED AS APPROVAL OF CONSTRUCTION PLAN. SO THAT GIVES AN APPLICANT SIX MONTHS TO GET ALL THE DUCKS IN A ROW COME IN WITH CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND THEN AS LONG AS WE APPROVE THOSE CONSTRUCTION PLANS THEY'VE GOT TIME TO IMPLEMENT THOSE THINGS.

I DON'T BELIEVE -- YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS, IF I'M READING THAT CORRECT. SO ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT A YEAR

WORTH OF TIME. >> OKAY, THANKS.

SEEING NO OTHERS, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

CAN YOU DESCRIBE EXACTLY WHAT THE BUFFER ALONG CARTWHEEL WAS GOING TO BE? ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY? EXACTLY WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO

THERE? >> THERE WILL BE PROBABLY SOME MULTI-LAYERED PLANTINGS. I BELIEVE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO PLANT THE TREES AND SOME SORT OF ALTERNATING DENSITY SO THAT THERE'S SOME IN THE FRONT AND SOME IN THE BACK AND NOT ALL IN ONE LINE WITHIN THE 35 EDGE. AND I THINK MY DESIGN INTENT WILL BE TO TRY TO PUT SOME SHRUBS AND OTHER PLANTINGS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE TO HELP IMPROVE THE VISUAL APPEAL OF THAT FENCE AS YOU ARE GOING DOWN CARTER BAY DRIVE.

>> WITH THE CHAIN LINK FOR EXAMPLE IS GOING TO REMAIN.

>> I BELIEVE IT COULD REMAIN WITH THE KNITTING OR THE OPACITY THAT GOES WITHIN THE FENCE, EITHER SLABS OR SOME OF THAT.

BUT I THINK WE WOULD DEFINE THAT THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL AND CONSTRUCTION PLANS WHETHER IT'S CHURNING -- CHAIN LINK OR -- BUT THE INTENT WOULD BE TO LIKE I SAID PLANT SOME SHRUBS AND FLOWERING PLANTS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE AND TREES ON THE

INSIDE OF THE FENCE. >> YOU ARE SURPRISED INCREASE FROM THREE BASE TO TEN BASE AND THAT WAS A SURPRISE IN THIS NEW MATERIAL. AS YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE A NEW PROPOSAL OVER THE PHONE, I TOLD YOU I DIDN'T PARTICULARLY LIKE THAT.

I KNOW WHAT THE OTHER MEMBERS UP HERE HAVE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME READING AND STUDYING THESE THINGS DRIVING OUT TO LOOK AT THEM AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND WE FORMULATE QUESTIONS BASED ON WHAT'S IN THE PACKET WE RECEIVE. THE STAFF REVIEW.

NOW WE'RE FINDING OUT WE GET A BRAND NEW SET OF THINGS GOING FROM THREE TO TEN DAYS. IN THE OLD STAFF REVIEW, JACOB ACTUALLY ADMITTED NOT ALL THIS STUFF HAD FULL TIME TO EVALUATE EVERYTHING. STATES ON PAGE 10, ACCORDING TO LDC SECTION 2.03.51, AUTO OIL CHANGE FACILITIES AND LDC SECTION 2.3.52 TIRE SERVICE CENTERS THAT USES ARE SUBJECT TO MAXIMUM INTENSITY OF THREE BAYS UNLESS FLAVORS GRANTED.

IN THE TOTAL NUMBER OF VEHICLE SERVICED AT ANY ONE TIME SHOULD BE LIMITED TO SIX. IT SAYS THESE SECTIONS COULD ALSO REQUIRED THE BASE BE -- WITH FENCING OVER VEGETATION.

LDC ALSO STATE SCREENING SHOULD BE PROVIDED WITH A SOLID WOODEN

I'LL BE PART OF A COMMERCIAL PLAN APPROVAL.

>> IT FURTHER GOES ON TO SAY THINGS IN HERE.

ADDITIONAL BASS WOULD INCREASE THE INTENSITY OF THE SITE, WHICH WILL EXCEED THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL USE.

THERE'S NO LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF BAYS ALLOWED UNDER AUTOSERVICE AND REPAIR USE IN HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES IN ZONING SUCH AS COMMERCIAL INTENSITY COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY AND COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE, COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY AMIRC ADDITIONAL BASE BE ON THREE MAY TRIGGER COMPREENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

LOCATION BASE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROVIDED ON THE MAP.

WHAT WE HAD TO REVIEW OVER THIS PAST WEEK DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ON IT ABOUT THE LOCATION OF THE BASE HERE I AM CURIOUS ABOUT -- NOW GOING TO TEN BASE, IS THAT GOING TO ACTUALLY TRIGGER

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT? >> LET ME GIVE A SHOUT TO THAT.

I'M GOING TO GO BACK FIRST TO THE SCREENING OF THE APPLICANT

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THUS HAVING HERE THAT THE STORAGE AND SERVICE BASE WILL BE SCREENED WITH SOLID FENCING. IT'S IN THEIR NEW RED LINE.

>> HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE.

>> I UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM. IT'S IN THERE SO IT HAS ADDRESSED THOSE OR STAFF COMMENTS FOR THOSE ITEMS. SO THEY'VE ADDED THAT AS RED LINE AS A NEW LANGUAGE IN THERE.

AGAIN, I'LL REITERATE THIS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AUTOSERVICE, OUR CODE -- -- HTTP PACKET SPLITS AUTOSERVICE INTO TWO CATEGORIES.

ON ONE HAND WE HAVE WHAT IS GENERALLY REFERRED TO AS AN OIL CHANGE AUTOSERVICE AND A TIRE AUTO SERVICE.

IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO AN OIL CHANGE OR TIRE SERVICE, WE RECOGNISE THAT THEY DO AUTO REPAIR ALSO IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE TO JUST CHANGING THE OIL OR JUST CHANGING TIRES.

THEY OFTEN TIMES DO WHAT WE COULD CONSIDER A FULL SERVICE.

SO THAT'S IN ONE SIDE OF THE CATEGORY.

AND THEN THE OTHER CATEGORY IS MAJOR AUTO REPAIRS, WHICH IS FIXING VEHICLES THAT HAVE BEEN IN MAJOR ACCIDENTS, BODY REPAIRS, PAYING RESTORATION, THINGS OF THAT NATURE SO IT SPLITS -- SO WHEN YOU READ THIS ANALYSIS IN YOUR STAFF PACKET IT WASN'T CLEAR BASED ON THE INFORMATION THE STAFF HAD ON RESEARCH THAT STAFF DID WHAT'S CATEGORY.

SO WE WENT TO THE APPLICANT AND SAID, WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING BECAUSE IF YOU'RE DOING THIS HIGH INTENSITY STUFF, IT DOESN'T WORK AND YOU NEED A PLAN AMENDMENT SO THAT WAS TIED TOGETHER WITH THE BASE, BECAUSE THIS BOARD'S JOB IS TO DETERMINE IF TEN DAYS IF COMPATIBLE.

IS TEN TOO MANY? IS THREE THE STANDARD? I DON'T WANT TO SEPARATE THAT THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY ARE THE LOWER INTENSITY OF THE TWO AUTO SERVICES.

THEY'RE NOT HIGH INTENSITY WE CAN AGREE WITH THAT WE DON'T REQUIRE LAND USE CHANGED AS OF THE CURRENT EDITION THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED TODAY AND THEN AGAIN THEY'RE ASKING FOR WAIVER.

SO THIS BOARD HAS TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION TECHCORP'S TEN IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA. IT APPEARS THEY'RE OPERATING

APPARENTLY TEN BASE. >> I THOUGHT THEY WERE OPERATING NINE. IS THAT CORRECT?

HOW MANY BAYS ARE OPERATING? >> I CAN GIVE THE APPLICANT A

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> IT STATES HERE, ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN WEBSITE THE COUNTY OFFICE ENGINE REBUILT ENGINE SWAPS, BOTH OF WHICH ARE CONSIDERED MAJOR VEHICLE REPAIRS AND WOULD REQUIRE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO THE HIGHER

INTENSITY USE. >> I THINK WE WORK THROUGH THAT THROUGH SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS WE SELF-IMPOSED AND THAT UPDATED

TEXT. >> I JUST GOT HANDED THIS.

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT. IF JACOB SAYS THAT AND THE ATTORNEY SAYS THAT, I'LL TAKE THAT AT FACE VALUE.

>> I'LL JUST READ IT TO YOU. THEY ADDED A FULL CATEGORY OF PROHIBITED USE CATEGORY. IT SAYS BODY SHOP, RESTORATION AND MAJOR VEHICLE REPAIRS. SO THAT'S IN THEIR TEXT.

>> ONE THING YOU POINTED OUT I THINK OIL CHANGE OR TIRE STORE DO SOME AUTO REPAIRS. I'VE NEVER KNOWN ONE THAT DID ENGINE REBUILDS OR SWAPS. THOSE ARE GONE AWAY.

ALL AREN'T GOING TO DO YOUR FULL SERVICE MECHANIC ACTIVITY LIKE

YOU HAVE BEEN DOING. >> I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS SOME -- THE WEBSITE PREPARED TO THE ACTUAL SERVICES AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WAS GETTING THEIR WEBSITE TRUED UP WITH THE

ZONING. >> OKAY THAT'S GOOD.

WITH TEN BAYS OPERATING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE TRAFFIC FOLKS HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT ALL THIS BUT HAVING THREE BAYS OPERATING OR SIX OR NINE, WHATEVER IT IS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO TEN, IT SEEMS TO ME OUT OF COMMON SENSE THAT WOULD INCREASE THE TRAFFIC ON CARTWHEEL. SO IS THAT A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS BEING LOOKED AT, ONCE YOU GET DOWN TO 210 WEST AND ALL THE OTHER ROADS THAT LEAD TO THIS, THOSE ARE DEFICIENT.

CARTWHEELS -- 210 RIGHT THERE 131% CAPACITY BASED ON TOTAL COMMITTED PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC. WHAT WOULD GO INTO TEN BAYS CONTACT2 TRAFFIC? IS THERE ANY ANALYSIS ON THAT OUT THERE? THERE'S NO TRAFFIC STUDY.

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>> OKAY, I DON'T SEE -- >> AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE NUMBER OF BLUE DOTS HERE, THE FACILITY WAS NOT IN THIS LOCATION. THESE CUSTOMERS WOULD BE TRAVELING ON 210 SOMEWHERE FURTHER EAST AND WEST AND ADDING MORE TRAFFIC TO THOSE DEFICIENT SEGMENTS VERSUS BASICALLY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NORTHWEST SECTOR CREATING THIS VARIETY OF LAND USE HOUSING AND CONNECTIVITY FROM NEIGHBORHOODS

TO COMMERCIAL SUPPORT. >> SO WHO'S OPERATING THE

STORAGE OF THE VEHICLES THERE? >> IT'S AUTOMATIC THEY'RE ENTERING THE -- OPERATING THE ENTIRE SITE.

>> SO THE CURRENT OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, THE VET FOLKS THEY'RE

COMPLETELY OUT OF THE PICTURES? >> CORRECT.

>> DOES AUTOMATIC SERVICE BODES? >> I'LL GET THAT ANSWER FOR YOU.

>> I CAN'T TELL FROM THE AREA YOU CAN SEE AT LEAST ONE VOTE ON THEIR, SOME RVS PARKED IN THEIR, LOOKS LIKE -- I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE VEHICLES WAITING TO BE REPAIRED OR NOT BUT THEY'RE THERE DOING A DOOR REPAIR, I'VE HAD SEVERAL BOATS THAT HAD BURNT ENGINES AND WORKING ON THOSE AS LOUD.

>> OPERATING HOURS ARE EIGHT, TO SIX MONDAY TO FRIDAY.

WEEKEND WORK. >> ML CONCERNED WITH SOMETHING THAT ONE OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS SAID.

THERE'S ADEQUATE SCREENING ON THE STREET ALONG THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY.

THAT TO ME IS GREAT THAT THEY FOLLOWED THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOLLOWED THEIR BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AUTOMATICS IS THE NEW OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO FOLLOW PROPER SCREENING BUFFER.

JUST GO TO SOMEBODY ELSE FOLLOW THE LAW DOESN'T MEAN.

>> I BELIEVE -- NOT TO CUT YOU OFF BUT THAT'S THE REQUEST FOR THE WAIVER TO NOT PLANT THE NORTHERN EASTERN AND SOUTHERN BOUNDARIES AND TO ALLOW THE DENSITY OF THOSE PLANTINGS TO

THE WESTERN BOUNDARY. >> I AGREE, IT NEEDS TO BE THERE. IT DOES CONCERN ME TO THAT THE TECHNICAL GUY THAT CAME UP HERE AND SAID THEY HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE LATEST PROPOSAL.

>> NOT TO PUT WORDS IN THEIR MOUTH BUT I'VE DONE THIS ENOUGH TIMES, THE MAJORITY OF THEIR COMMENTS WILL BE ADDRESSED DURING THE COMMERCIAL PLANS CONNECTNOW DURING THE ZONING

APPLICATION. >> WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS TO

TODAY. >> TRUST AND STAFF.

>> YOU KNOW, THIS THING HAS BEEN DRAGGING ON WITH THE CURRENT OWNERS FOR THREE YEARS NEARLY AS OF MAY, THAT WILL BE THREE YEARS THIS DRAGGED ON. I KNOW YOU DON'T REPRESENT THEM CAN I ASSUME YOU DON'T SPEAK WITH NOTHING BEEN DONE FOR THREE

YEARS ON THIS? >> I CAN TELL YOU IT STARTED WITH ME NOT DOING THE WORK. THERE WAS AN ATTORNEY INVOLVED AND SHE LEFT PRIVATE PRACTICE TO GO WORK FOR MUNICIPALS AND THERE WAS SOME LACKING TIME IN THAT. THERE ACTUALLY WAS A LAND USE AMENDMENT THAT WAS PART OF THE INITIAL APPLICATION PROCESS THAT WAS WITHDRAWN. SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME EBB AND FLOW THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND SOME OF THE CONSULTANTS INVOLVED ADDED TO SOME OF THAT.

I'LL BE OPEN WITH YOU I'M NOT BASHING MY CLIENTS BUT THERE ARE NOT DEVELOPERS. I'VE HAD TO DO A LOT OF CODE TEACHING AND EDUCATING OF MY CLIENTS TO ALLOW THEM TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE TRUE LEGAL PARAMETERS, THE COST BASE

PARAMETERS. >> OKAY, IF WE APPROVE THIS, THE COMPLAINT GOES AWAY, MY UNDERSTANDING.

IS THAT STILL CORRECT, JACOB? >> YES THE COMPLAINT I BELIEVE WAS TWO PARTS I BELIEVE IT HAD SOME ADVERTISING, MAYBE SOME FLAGS OR SIGNAGE ASSOCIATED WITH IT BUT THEN IT WAS THE OPERATION OF AN AUTO SERVICE FACILITY WHICH WASN'T ALLOWED IN THE ZONING. SO YES, ULTIMATELY IF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS APPROVES, THEY BECOME COMPLIANT

IN THE ZONING. >> I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE AFTER THREE YEARS OF GOING OVER THIS AND BACK AND FORTH, THE CURRENT OWNERS BASICALLY GOT OFF THE HOOK BY SELLING THE PROPERTY.

THEN THE BURDEN FALLS ON YOUR CLIENTS.

AND I HAVE EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE YOUR CLIENTS ARE VERY REPUTABLE AND FINE BUSINESS FOLKS AND AUTO MECHANICS.

I SALUTE THEM AND I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY RUNNING A VERY

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FINE BUSINESS. SO I'M HAPPY TO HEAR ALL THAT.

SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS ARE CONCERNING AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THE EMPIRIC FIRST TIME LOOKING AT THE OLD MATERIAL.

I THINK -- I'M GOING TO BE QUITE FAIR A WHILE AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF PEOPLE SITTING HERE WAITING TO SPEAK THINKING IT WAS GOING TO BE ITEM NUMBER 1.

SO -- WE HAVE OTHER FOLKS TO TALK FIRST.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION THROUGH STAFF.

PUD SAYS THERE IS WE GOT TODAY SAYS MINIMUM SETBACKS CHANGING AT 20 FEET FOR BUILDINGS PARKING IN THE STORAGE AREAS ADJACENT TO ROADWAYS IN RESIDENTIAL USE. DOESN'T ADDRESS FENCING.

WANTING TO PUT A 6-FOOT FENCE UP RECORD TO PUT A 6-FOOT FENCE, WHAT WILL BE THE SETBACK FOR THAT.

>> FENCING ON A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IS NOT HELD TO A SETBACK ALMOST ALWAYS. IN THIS CASE I THINK THEY'RE STICKING WITH 6 FEET. SO THERE'S NO CONCERN ABOUT EIGHT OR 10-FOOT TALL FENCE OR. IT COULD BE ON THE PROPERTY

LINE. >> THANK YOU.

MISS SPIEGEL. [INDISTINCT]

>> THAT WAS FAST. >> THERE'S NOTHING IN THE NDP ABOUT SIGNAGE. ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE SIGNS?

>> I'LL ADD THAT TO MY LIST. >> OKAY.

>> SEEING NO MORE QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME FROM THE BOARD, WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS OF YOU -- HAVE ANY CONCERNS AND WISH TO EXPRESS ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS CAN YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I AM MARIE.

WE HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS STILL LEFT UNANSWERED, DROPS AND CONCERNS. ON THE WEST SIDE OF CARTEL BAY, THERE'S ACTUALLY I WOULD SAY PROBABLY A 6-FOOT OPENING THAT TAKES YOU INTO THE BACK AND THAT IS AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE ENTRANCE AND EXIT. WITH MY LOVING OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD -- WE'VE SEEN IT AND WE HAVE STILL SEEN IT, EVEN SINCE THE LAST MEETING WHERE PEOPLE DROP THEIR CARS OFF FOR AUTOMATICS AND THEY PARK THEIR HEAR THE FIRE TRUCK COULD ALWAYS RUN HIM OVER IF THEY NEED TO GET INTO THE BACK OF IT'S.

BUT THEY'RE STILL PARKING ON THAT CONCRETE SLAB.

THERE ARE STILL PARKING OUTSIDE OF THEIR GAME ALONG -- ON THE GRASSY AREA ON THE WEEKENDS WHEN PEOPLE ARE DROPPING THEIR CARS OFF AFTER HOURS. THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THEM TO PULL THEIR VEHICLES INTO EXCEPT FOR PROBABLY A LITTLE SLAB ABOUT THIS BIG AT THE FRONT OF THEIR GATE THAT OPENS.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS IF THEIR GATE WERE TO BE MOVED BACK OR THEIR FENCE BACK, IT WOULD ALLOW PROBABLY ENOUGH ROOM FOR AT LEAST TWO CARS PER LANE, A TOTAL OF FOUR CARS INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM PARKING ON THE GRASSY AREA. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST AUTO MECHANICS. MY HUSBAND WORKED FOR NISSAN FOR 40 YEARS AND MADE A GOOD LIVING. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST WHAT THEY'RE DOING. IT'S JUST HOW THEY'RE DOING IT I DO THINK IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO REZONE AND GET TEN BAYS ON THAT PROPERTY IT WILL DEFINITELY CHANGE THE DYNAMIC EVEN MORE AND I DID GIVE THESE OFF TO EVERYONE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT IT. I WENT TO THE MEETING RECENTLY, LAST WEEK ABOUT COUNTY ROAD 210 AND 22 '09.

THAT INTERSECTION IS GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACK OF SPROUT'S, HOW IT'S GOT THAT LITTLE ROAD THAT COMES IN THROUGH THE BACK, THEY'RE ALREADY ANTICIPATING THE M.DOT BUT THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GET EVEN WORSE ON THAT LITTLE ROAD BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL NOT WANT TO GO ALL THE WAY UP TO 210 AND 22 '09 TO SIT AND WAIT TO TRY AND TURN WEST ONTO 210 WEST. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN THIS AREA.

THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT BUILDING THE OVERPASS TO TRY AND ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC, BUT I THINK IF IT GOES TO TEN BAYS IT'S GOING TO CREATE MORE TRAFFIC ON CRISWELL BAY AND AS OF RIGHT

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NOW, WE HAVE A VERY HARD TIME GETTING IN AND OUT OF CRISWELL BAY BECAUSE TRAFFIC ON 210 WEST WILL BACK UP AND BLOCK THE INTERSECTION. THAT'S EVERY MORNING WHEN PEOPLE ARE LEAVING TO GO TO WORK. WHEN I LEFT TO GO TO MY DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT THIS MORNING AT 8:00 THE INTERSECTION WAS BACKED UP PRETTY BAD. SO THAT DEFINITELY WANTED TO

TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH CAN I DO

A TRAFFIC STUDY, PLEASE. >> I WAS CURIOUS -- WHITE VINYL FENCE EMERGENCY EXIT YOU ALL HAVE THEIR?

>> THAT'S NOT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

OUR COMMUNITY WAS BUILT, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CONNECTED TO IT BUT THERE'S A CANAL THAT RUNS BETWEEN BOTH SUBDIVISIONS DOWN BEHIND OFF OF OUR ROAD, WHEN YOU TURN INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT THE WHITE FENCING THAT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN, THAT BACKS UP TO ALL OTHER HOMES AND SOME ARE ON THAT ARE OUT BY THE WATER WHERE 210 IS. THERE'S A LAKE THERE AND IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, ALL BACK THERE, THAT'S ALL CONSIDERED CIMARRON.

>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS DO YOU HEAR EXCESSIVE NOISE OR -- LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. THERE IS SOMETHING IN HERE, IN THE KENNEDY'S ATTORNEYS REVIEW THEY STAYED IN HERE THAT WE COULD DENY THIS IF THIS DEVELOPMENT DETRACTS FROM THE CHARACTER AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY CREATING EXCESSIVE NOISE LIGHTTECH VIBRATIONS, ODORS, DUST, PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES OR OTHER DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS ARE NUISANCES DO YOU EXPERIENCE ANY OF THAT AT YOUR HOUSE?

>> THERE ARE A FEW CONCERNS SOMETIMES THE MECHANICS LIKE WHEN THEY'RE WORKING ON IT, THEY WILL DO THEIR TEST DRIVES AND THE LINE STARTS AT THE FRONT HERE AND GOES STRAIGHT DOWN.

AND YOU KNOW THEY'RE DOING TEST DRIVES BECAUSE THEY DO IT AND PROBABLY 15, 20S. IF I'M OUT THERE WITH MY GRANDSON I'M LIKE OH, MY GOSH, -- THE NEIGHBORS ARE TALKING TO EACH OTHER WE HAVE TO STEP BACK BECAUSE THE GUYS ARE DOING TEST DRIVES THROUGH THERE. LIKE I SAID I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM THAT HE HAS A BUSINESS BUT BE RESPECTFUL OF THE COMMUNITY HERE I WILL TELL YOU THAT ON THE CHAIN LINK LIKE I DON'T LIKE THAT AT ALL, BECAUSE I WITNESSED -- THE PLASTIC ACROSS THEIR, IT WAS DOWN -- EVER SINCE THE LAST MEETING.

ON TUESDAY, WHEN I LEFT TO GO PICK UP MY ORDER AT WALMART, THE GUY WAS OUT THERE WITH ZIP TIES AND HE WAS ZIP TYING IT BACK CLOSED BUT HE LET IT GO THAT WHOLE TWO WEEKS WITH IT FLAPPING EVERYWHERE. SO TO SAY THEY'RE TRYING TO BE GOOD STEWARDS, THEY NEED TO UP THEIR GAME A LITTLE AND BE A BIT MORE RESPECTFUL. I DON'T AGREE THAT WHEN YOU ENTER THEIR GATE THERE'S NO WAY FOR THEIR CARS TO PARK THEY'VE GOT IT PARKED ALL OVER THE PLACE IN DIFFERENT SPOTS.

THERE'S A BLENDING NUMBER 2 IN BUILDING NUMBER 3 BEHIND SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ARE OF THOSE. ONE TIME THEY WERE RUNNING A GRANITE BUSINESS OUT OF THERE. THEY'VE HAD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT BUSINESSES OPERATING WITH THEM ON THOSE SAME PREMISES AS AUTOMATICS AT THE SAME TIME. ALL THOSE VEHICLES PARKED TO THE LEFT, THEY HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE BEFORE CHRISTMAS.

SO THEY'RE NOT WAITING ON PARTS UNLESS THEY'RE STUCK IN THE

THING GOING ON OVER THERE. >> ALL GOOD POLITICAL.

>> APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVE. YOU WROTE THE LETTER STATED

ABOUT THE TEST DRIVES. >> CORRECT.

THE OTHER THING WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IS HAS THE PROPERTY EVER BEEN TESTED BECAUSE MOSQUITO CONTROL WAS ON IT FOR A LONG.

OF TIME SO WAS THE SOIL EVER TESTED?

WAS THE POND THERE EVER TESTED? >> I DON'T THINK WE CAN ANSWER

THAT TODAY. >> JUST CURIOUS AND THE FUMES OF WORKING IN OPEN AIR BASE. THAT WOULD BE A HAZARD, WORKING ON THE VEHICLES AND OPEN AIR BASE.

I DON'T THINK THE EPA ALLOWS THAT.

LIKE I SAID MY HUSBAND'S WORKED FOR NISSAN FOR 40 YEARS I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH SOMEONE BEING A MECHANIC OR TECHNICIAN.

HOWEVER THEY WANT TO BE REFERRED TO, BUT I THINK IF THEY WANT TO DO IT THEY NEED TO FIND A WAY THAT DOESN'T IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY AND BRING DOWN THE VALUES OF OUR HOMES.

>> APPRECIATE IT THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE, PLEASE COME

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FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES.

>> I AM MARIA, I LIVE AT TWO AND TWO-LANE SAINT JOHN'S.

VERY NICE PEOPLE AND I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.

MY ISSUE IS, EACH TIME WE COME, SEEMS TO BE A NEW SURPRISE.

EITHER MAKE UP YOUR MIND WHICH WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GO WITH THIS THING, DON'T ACTOR SUBTRACT AND IS THIS SALE GOING TO ACTUALLY HAPPEN FROM THE PREVIOUS OWNER OR ARE WE GOING TO ZONE SOMETHING AND HAVE THE OWNER HAVE THE MOVE AND THEN DO SOMETHING ELSE TO IT? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S LIKE INVITING A MAJOR COW, SO TO SPEAK, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

THEY DO TEST DRIVES DOWN HERE CANNOT LANE AND IT'S NOT REALLY APPROPRIATE. THE FENCE IS NOT COVERED CRICKETS FLAPPING IN THE WIND AND I BELIEVE -- I. DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS THIS WEEK OR PREVIOUS WEEK LIKE THERE WERE AT LEAST FOUR CARS SITTING OUT THERE LIKE WHEN THEY WERE CLOSED BECAUSE THEY HAPPENED TO BE BEHIND ONE OF THE TOW TRUCKS AND HE WAS UPSET THAT I WAS TRYING TO PASS AROUND HIM WHILE HE FIDDLED AROUND AND TRYING TO TAKE THIS CAR OFF AND DEPOSIT IT IN FRONT OF AUTOMATIC'S. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PEOPLE USING THEM IN THE COMMUNITY. THERE MAY BE GREAT MECHANICS LIKE I DON'T KNOW I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.

WHAT I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IS THE COSMETIC, THE WAY WE'RE GOING ABOUT IT AND IT'S JUST THAT FINAL.

I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO GO TO CLOSING ON THIS LAND SALE BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE HAPPENED YET. AND THIS OTHER GUY STILL OWNS IT. ARE YOU BUYING IT? NOT BUYING IT? WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH IT? AND SHOULD BE UP TO CODE IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE AND I'M ASSUMING WHEN THEY DO THEY'RE THINK IT WILL GO TO CODE. WHAT ELSE CAN I TELL YOU? IT'S JUST THE SWITCHING BACK AND FORTH.

AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE YOU GUYS HAD TIME TO REALLY LOOK THROUGH IT. IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT.

DO IT RIGHT AND THEN WE COULD JUST MOVE FORWARD.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.

TELLING US YOU HAVE VILLAINS WORKING FOR YOU IS NOT EXACTLY GIVING US BROWNIE POINTS HERE. IT'S JUST RAISING EVERYBODY'S ANTENNAS. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE PEOPLE DID, WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW AND I'M NOT GOING TO ASK BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING -- THEN YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO THAT?

[INDISTINCT] >> MAY WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT.

>> I WISH HE WOULD BECAUSE IT'S NOT RIGHT.

YOU'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING BUT DO IT RIGHT.

DO IT RIGHT ONCE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP DOING IT ALL THE

TIME. >> I WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER TO IT.

>> THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS. >> IF SHE DOESN'T MIND REPEATING HER QUESTION FOR ME BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT HER.

I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER. >> WHAT I SAID, IF WE JUST DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AND WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP HAVING THE SURPRISES, WE WENT FROM -- I WASN'T AWARE THEY HAD NINE BASE, IF THEY HAVE NINE BASE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO.

GOING THERE AND COUNT THE BASE IN PLACE, BUT TEN BASE IS A LOT OF BASE AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE CARS AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE TRAFFIC. WHAT HAPPENS TO THESE PEOPLE WHEN THEY BRING CARS THAT THEY'RE STACKING OUTSIDE THE PREMISES FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS UNTIL THEY OPEN?

>> I CAN ANSWER THE SECOND VEHICLE STORAGE.

AS PART OF THE PROPOSED SOLUTION, AS WE DO THE NEW FENCING CREATE THE 75 FEET OF STACKING INTO THE PROPERTY SO THAT THERE IS NO VEHICLE STACKING AND THEY COMMENTED ON

THAT A BIT EARLIER. >> YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT.

>> CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? >> I DON'T THINK SO.

>> THE OTHER QUESTION I DID ASK IS ABOUT WHAT HE SAID AND WHO HE EMPLOYED. THAT DIDN'T SIT WELL WITH THE

COMMUNITY FOR THE MOST PART. >> I CAN ADDRESS MAYBE A COUPLE OF THE BOARD'S COMMENTS FIRST. THIS IS A DESTINATION, THERE'S NO INTENT TO CREATE THE ARCHES OF SIGNAGE HERE.

ANY SIGNAGE WOULD BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE HERE AS PART OF THE TRAINING OF MY CLIENT, ONCE THEY LEARNED THAT THERE WAS NO OUTDOOR STORAGE, THERE WAS A

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TIME CAN YOU SEE IN THOSE AREAS THE BOATS AND RVS, I UNDERSTAND. WHERE THEY WERE PROVIDING SOME PAID STORAGE ON SITE. THAT IS NOT PART OF THEIR BUSINESS OPERATIONS. THERE IS NO BOAT REPAIR AND NONE OF THAT OCCURRING AS PART OF AUTOMATIC'S.

TEST DRIVES COME UP SINCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, HASN'T BEEN OCCURRING. I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF IT BUT THE OWNER UNDERSTAND -- THEY GAVE A MEMO, SOME DOCUMENTATION TO STAFF TO NOT GO TO THE NORTH OF CARTWHEEL BAY AVENUE.

THE FIRST PUBLIC SPEAKER ACTUALLY DID HIT ON THE NOTE IN THIS PART OF CIMARRON'S MASTER PLAN, THEY EXPECTED THE SUBDIVISION OUT OF -- IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO ACCESS THE AVENUE PACKAGE WAS INTENDED TO ACCESS TO CIMARRON.

SO AS YOU SEE, THE CONQUISTADOR ROAD AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN -- AS I UNDERSTAND IT THROUGH THE ORIGINAL PLANNING OF CIMARRON WHEN THIS WAS PART OF CIMARRON, IT WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO ACCESS KHADI12 PAPERWORK THAT WAS ENOUGH FOR THOUGHT FOR DREAM FOUNDERS WHEN THEY BUILD THE SUBDIVISION TYPEKIT CARPOOL BAY TO THE NORTH AND ALLOW THE SUBDIVISION TO ACCESS THROUGH THERE. NEITHER HEAD NOR HAIR BUT I THINK IT DOES PLAY INTO KIND OF HOW WE ARE HERE TODAY.

FOR THE RECORD, SHE AND HER HUSBAND WERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING BEING VERY AGGRESSIVE WITH THE APPLICANT AT THE TIME AND STAFF WAS THERE TO WITNESS SOME OF THAT.

SO NO ONE HAS A CRYSTAL BALL CLEARLY THE CURRENT APPLICANT PREVIOUS GNG IS NO LONGER INVOLVED.

SO AUTOMATIC IS THE INTENDED USE, WE ARE HERE TO SEE THAT THROUGH WITH HIM AND HIS TEAM. SO I BELIEVE I ADDRESSED ALL OF THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AS WELL AS ANY REBUTTAL TO THE PUBLIC. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> OKAY. LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR YOU, MR. LABANOWSKI.

>> I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS ALREADY ANSWERED ABOUT ONE OF THEM PEOPLE PARKING IN THE EMERGENCY ACCESS SLAB UP THERE GOING IN THE BACK SIDE OF CIMARRON.

YOU'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT BY EXTENDING THE END, THE LANES GOING IN. SO IT WAS HARD TO SEE.

WHAT'S WITH THE DRIVE? >> 24 FEET.

>> SO YOU CAN GET TWO WIDE IN THERE.

>> I DIDN'T SEE ANYWHERE IN THERE CAN I COURSE THE LOCATION

OF YOUR WELL? >> I BELIEVE IT'S TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING BUT I CAN LOOK AT THE SURVEY HERE AND GET THAT

>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS, POSSIBLE CONTAMINATION WITH THE EXTENSION OF THREE, TEN -- WHAT'S THE ACTUAL NUMBER CURRENTLY? THE BAYS THAT ARE BEING OPERATED RIGHT NOW, TODAY.

>> I BELIEVE IT'S TEN. >> IT IS TEN.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE SCREENING, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE ORAL PART AND THEN AND WHAT IT WAS BROUGHT UP.

I GET A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH THE WOODEN FENCE BUT THAT'S MORE PERSONAL OPINION. THEY DON'T LAST AS LONG AS THE VINYL. TO THE SOUND, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SIGN OUT THERE AND YOU TALKED ABOUT -- ACCORDING TO THE LDC, CAN YOU HAVE THAT SIGNED MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 15 FEET MAX?

>> I CAN CHECK WITH THE APPLICANT BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A PROBLEM AT ALL. YOU CAN KEEP TALKING LIKE I'M

GOING TO CHECK THE SURVEY. >> I AM DAVID LEE.

>> I SEE THE GUYS HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVE NOW BEEN FULLY ANSWERED. I AM HERE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. SOME OF THE CONCERNS I HAD BEFORE WAS THE EXTORTION OF THE BOATS AND TRAILERS AND ALL THAT

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THAT'S ALL BEEN GONE. WE ALSO FOUND THAT -- IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING, IT'S BEEN GONE.

THERE WERE SOME CARS THAT HAVE BEEN ABANDONED BY CUSTOMERS.

THEY'RE ALL BEING REMOVED. MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN REMOVED ALREADY. AND THEY'RE BEING REMOVED AS WELL. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THE LADIES HERE IN REGARDS TO THE BLOCKAGE OF THE DRIVEWAY. PEOPLE COME IN -- PEOPLE LIKE US, NOT TO BE BRAGGING BUT WE TRY TO RUN A FULLY RESPONSIBLE -- AND THEY COME IN AND DROP OFF CARS.

ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WE HAVE THAT BEING ABLE TO PRETTY MUCH IMPROVE THE PROPERTY IS BECAUSE WHEN WE GET INTO THE BUSINESS THE OWNER PROMISED US HE WAS% GOING TO WORK ON REZONING CHANGE AND I GUESS HE HAS OTHER PLANS. IT IS WHAT IT IS.

SO JUST RECENTLY, GOT INTO CONTRACT WITH THEM AND WE ARE GOING TO BLOW YOUR MIND HERE WE WOULD HAVE SO MANY PLANS, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE -- WE DON'T LIKE IT WHEN PEOPLE --

>> I CAME IN MONDAY MORNING, THERE WAS ONE VEHICLE, A CRV, WE DIDN'T PROVE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THEIR VEHICLES TOWED ON THE WEEKENDS RIGHT NOW WITH THE CURRENT SETUP IT'S REALLY HARD FOR US TO CONTROL THAT. THE CURRENT OWNER TOLD US HE DOESN'T LIKE THAT, IT'S HARD TO ACTUALLY STOP THAT.

WE JUST SHOW UP, IT'S NOT OUR DOING.

>> WE HAD PROPOSED TO THE CURRENT OWNERS TO DO THE PAVING ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND WE'LL PAY FOR IT.

HE SAID DON'T DO ANYTHING. I'LL PROMISE YOU THAT IF IT GETS APPROVED AND ONCE WE CLOSE THIS THING, THE PLACE IS GOING TO LOOK AMAZING. LOOKS SO BEAUTIFUL.

WE WERE SO LIMITED TO JUST WORKING ON THE INSIDE AND SOME OF YOU GUYS WHO HAVE BEEN THERE AND IT LOOKS VERY NICE.

WOULD LIKE TO JUST COMPLEMENT THAT WITH THE HOW IT LOOKS ON THE OUTSIDE. AND YES, I THINK HE HAD ANOTHER -- ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WERE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> QUESTION IS ABOUT THE SIGN. [INDISTINCT]

>> WE'D LIKE TO RUN OURSELVES. WE DON'T GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

WITH THE AMOUNT OF BAYS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, GET ABOUT 20 CARS PER DAY RIGHT NOW WHICH REALLY DOESN'T INCREASE THE AMOUNT OUT

THERE. >> THAT'S THE PUMP HOUSE.

>> WAS A BIT CONCERNED IF IT WAS GOING TO BE RIGHT THERE, POSSIBLE CONTAMINATIONS, WERE CONCERNED ABOUT.

THE ONLY OTHER THING GLAD TO SEE IS THAT YOU CAN PUT MORE PLANNING IN THAT FRONT, HOPEFULLY IT'S GOING TO BE A BIT MORE MATURE THAN LITTLE SAPLINGS.

WITH TEN BAYS OPERATING, BREAKING UP OF THAT SOUND IS

VERY IMPORTANT. >> I UNDERSTAND.

>> SETTING OF THAT FENCE IN THE GATE FROM THE ROAD WILL ALLOW THOSE VEHICLES TO BE STORED IF THEY DO COME UP OVER THE WEEKEND NOT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OR DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> SPIEGEL.

>> OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, IF PEOPLE ARE DONE WITH QUESTIONS, FIRST, I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT HIRING PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD -- AND I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT THING FOR CITIZENS TO UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IF YOU'RE A BUSINESS THAT OPERATES WITH INTEGRITY AND YOU DON'T HAVE FIRM BOUNDARIES IT'S IMPORTANT TO GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE THEY PAY THEIR PRICE TO CITE IP. I THINK IT'S HONORABLE CONCERNING BUT WE LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD AND PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES AND JUST BECAUSE I MADE A MISTAKE TEN YEARS AGO I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.

I PAID MY TIME AND I'M DOING A GOOD JOB BEING A PERSON OF INTEGRITY. ANYWAY.

>> ANYONE WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT?

>> YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE I COULD HAVE BEEN 12, EASILY.

YOU DON'T ALWAYS KNOW AND EVERYBODY HAS SOME KIND OF A PAST AND IT'S HONORABLE TO GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE.

THEY HIRE ONLY EX-CONS AND THEY'RE JUST KNOCKING THE WHOLE

WORLD OUT WITH THEIR BREAD. >> WE HAVE A FEW OF THEM.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME AND TODAY MY LIFE IS DIFFERENT.

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I'M A CHILD OF GOD, I'M A FATHER.

>> YOU GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO COME INTO THAT.

>> I LOVE THE PEOPLE LIKE I LOVE THE COACH.

>> IT'S BEAUTIFUL. THANK I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> WE HAVE A STRICT RULE, DO NOT TURN RIGHT I KNOW IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM IN THE PAST BUT WE ARE TOLD CONSTANTLY, DO NOT TURN RIGHT. HAVEN'T SEEN IT IN A WHILE.

IF IT'S GOING ON, I'M REALLY EASY TO FIND.

WE HAVE OUR, DO NOT TURN RIGHT. I PROMISE YOU'LL GET 1000%.

>> MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS FROM ME -- [INDISTINCT]

>> AM GETTING SOME PUSHBACK FROM SOME BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE REALLY CAN'T ALLOW THAT BACK AND FORTH HERE I APPRECIATE THOSE

COMMENTS. >> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE MEETING -- HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE, WHATEVER WE DO. AND IF WE EVER -- PLEASE COME TO

US AND LET US KNOW. >> I THOUGHT THAT MISS SPIEGEL WAS GOING TO MOVE SOMETHING. WE HAVE TWO MORE SPEAKERS LIKE I

DON'T KNOW IF THEY WANT -- >> CAN I MAKE A MOTION?

>> WE CAN ALWAYS DISCUSS THE ITEM BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE

APPLICANT OR NOT -- >> LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND HAVE

YOU ASK YOUR QUESTIONS. >> IT WASN'T A QUESTION, IT WAS A COMMENT, SORT OF A SUMMARY COMMENT THAT IS IN MY HEAD, AT LEAST. REMOVING THE PHASE TWO, REMOVING THE NEED TO CONSIDER REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, I THINK TAKES A LOT OF COMPLEXITY AND DIFFICULTY AWAY FROM THIS ACTION.

WHAT WE ARE ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE DOING WITH THIS ACTION IS FIXING THE CURRENT ACTIVITY LEVEL WITH AN ENHANCED IMPROVED SITE IN THE WAYS THAT ADDRESS MANY OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT IT.

FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE, SHOULD IF AND WHEN IT HAPPENS, I THINK NEEDS TO HAVE MUCH MORE BIG PICTURE CONSIDERATION OF HOW IT RELATES TO THAT, LAND TRUST, LAND TO THE NORTH AND EAST BECAUSE THAT IS BOUND TO BE ATTRACTIVE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, GIVEN THE EXPOSURE TO THE HIGH INTENSITY ARTERIALS THAT ARE THEIR PEERS SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT BECAUSE I REALLY DO THINK THAT REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE AT ANY POINT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN A WAY THAT IT DOESN'T LOAD TRAFFIC ONTO CARTWHEEL. AND THAT IT RELATES TO CIRCULATION IN A BIGGER MASTERPLAN WAY, WITH WHATEVER IS

HAPPENING WITH THAT LAND TRUST. >> THAT'S MY OBSERVATION.

>> MR. GREEN. >> I WANT TO SECOND THE MOTION -- I. WANTED TO POSTPONE THIS I THINK IT ENDED UP BEING BETTER FOR YOUR CLIENT AS WELL AS FOR THE COUNTY.

YOU STILL HAVE 30 DAYS BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY -- SO YOU CAN STORE A FEW OF THESE CONCERNS.

>> OR JUST MAKING A RECOMMENDATION.

SO YOU HAVE SOME MORE TIME. I AM GLAD TO SEE THIS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. ALSO GLAD TO SEE THE PROPERTY OWNER OR BUSINESS OWNER COMMUNICATE WITH THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT BACKS UP RESIDENTIAL.

GREAT TO SEE IT. ANYWAY, IF YOU MAKE THE MOTION

I'LL BE HAPPY TO SECOND THAT. >> AM READY I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PUD202402, 10150 CARTWHEEL, POD BASED UPON NINE FINDINGS OF THAT AS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. DO I ADD THAT? THEY'RE GOING TO ADD A HEIGHT LIMIT OF 15 FEET TO THE MDP.

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IT WILL BE ADDED IT'S ON THE RECORD.

THAT'S MY MOTION. >> I'LL BE HAPPY TO SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY MISS SPIEGEL SECOND BY MR. GREENBERG

ANY DISCUSSION? >> LET'S GET THE VOTING SCREEN OUT. THERE IT IS.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY CONGRATULATIONS.

[5. LDCA 2026-03 Landscaping Service Accessory Use. The Board of County Commissioners requested changes to Land Development Code (LDC) regulations regarding Landscaping Service businesses and their coexistence with Commercial Plant Nurseries at their regularly scheduled public hearing on Tuesday, February 17, 2026.]

>> THANK YOU AND THANK YOU TO THE STAFF.

ITEM NUMBER 5. ONE OF OUR OWN STAFF MEMBERS.

JACOB, YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE HONORS ON THIS LDC CHANGE.

>> THANK YOU, SIR, REPRESENTING ITEM NUMBER 5, THIS IS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT TO ALLOW FOR LANDSCAPING SERVICES AS AN ACCESSORY USE. SO A BIT OF BACKGROUND TO THIS, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DIRECTED STAFF TO LOOK INTO ALLOWING LANDSCAPE SERVICE OPERATORS TO OPERATE AS A SPECIAL USE IN KIND WITH AN EXISTING PLANT NURSERY.

SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE WE HAVE COMMERCIAL PLANT NURSERIES OUT IN OPEN RURAL PARTS OF THE COUNTY IT'S A SUITABLE PLACE TO BE BUT OF COURSE A LOT OF TIMES THOSE COMPANIES OPERATE AND INSTALL INTO THINGS LIKE THAT SO CURRENTLY OUR CODE DOESN'T ALLOW FOR LANDSCAPE SERVICES TO BE OUT IN OPEN RURAL CALCULATE CATEGORIES AS A HIGHER INTENSITY USE THAT ENDS UP NEEDING A COMMERCIAL ZONING. SO THE COUNTY COMMISSION WAS TO PROPOSE SOME LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES THAT WOULD ALLOW LANDSCAPE SERVICE TO OPERATE ON AN EXISTING NURSERY.

SO WE HAVE DRAFTED SOME LANGUAGE I'M GOING TO GO OVER THE LANGUAGE HERE AND KIND OF TALK ABOUT OUR THOUGHT PROCESS ABOUT HOW WE TRY TO MAKE THAT POSSIBLE.

SO WE ARE LITERALLY ADDING AN ACCESSORY USE.

CREATING A NEW USE AN OPEN RULE ZONIN AND NEEDS TO BE APPROVED AS A SPECIAL USE. SO IF YOU WERE EVER TO HAVE ONE OF THESE IT'S GOING TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD AND FIND THAT THE BOARD HAS TO FIND THAT THE LANDSCAPE SERVICE IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AND DOESN'T HAVE THE ADVERSE EFFECTS ON POTENTIAL SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WHETHER THEY ARE RESIDENTIAL OR AGRICULTURAL. SO WE CREATED A SERIES OF STANDARDS THAT WE BASED OFF OF EXISTING RULES AND REGULATIONS IN OUR CODES. WE HAVE HOURS OF OPERATIONS THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR NOISE ORDINANCE.

WE HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF THE LANDSCAPE SERVICE CAN ONLY BE 25% OF THE SITE AREA. SO AGAIN, THE MAJOR USE HAS TO BE THE PLANT NURSERY. THEN WE HAVE SOME SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS IN CASE THERE IS A BUDDING RESIDENTIAL TO MAKE SURE THESE BIG LANDSCAPE TRUCKS AND SO FORTH ARE AT LEAST 200 FEET AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND THEN LIKEWISE MAKING SURE THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AREN'T BURDENED BY THE NOISE OR SOUND OR VISUAL OF LARGE TRUCKS AND MACHINERIES COMING AND GOING AND ADDING SOME REASONABLY INTENSIVE SCREENING REQUIREMENT TO IT'S. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LANGUAGE THAT WOULD BE INSERTED SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE REAL THING CAN JUST BE ADDED TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THEN ANY APPLICANT TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS WOULD SUBMIT FOR SPECIAL USE APPLICATION AND COME FORWARD FOR REVIEW BY THIS BOARD. THAT BEING SAID I THINK THAT COVERS BASICALLY EVERYTHING SO I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO THE BOARD

OR TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> OKAY, MR. LABANOWSKI WOULD

LIKE TO ASK YOU SOMETHING. >> THE STORAGE, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT STORAGE OF BRANCHES AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS PART OF THE SITE? OR IS THAT GOING TO HAVE TO GO ELSEWHERE? MY CONCERN IS, RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A LANDSCAPING COMPANY THAT'S GOT A MOUNTAIN OF TREE DEBRIS OUT THERE. SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?

>> YES, SIR, THAT'S THE AREA WHERE THESE LANDSCAPING OPERATIONS GOT A FEW THINGS YOU'VE GOT BIG TRUCKS LIKE BIG MACHINERIES, YOU HAVE TRAILERS AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE IN AND OUT AND ACTIVITY GOING OUT, BUT THEN, YES, YOU END UP WITH AT TIMES LARGE AMOUNTS OF LANDSCAPING DEBRIS LIKE IF THEY'RE CLEARING SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY OR DOING THAT SORT OF SERVICE. SO THAT IT'S INCLUDED IN THIS.