[3. SUPMIN 2025-15 83 North Roscoe Blvd. Request for a Special Use Permit to allow for a Manufactured/Mobile Home as a residence in Residential, Single-Family (RS-3) zoning, pursuant to Land Development Code Section 2.03.08, specifically located at 83 North Roscoe Blvd.]

FUTURE. HOPEFULLY THE NEXT AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 3, ANY EXPERTISE ON THIS?

THIS IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. >> I HAD A FUN CONVERSATION WITH

MR. BRATT -- >> MR. OLSEN.

[INDISTINCT] >> I VISITED THE SITE BUT DIDN'T

SEE ANY SIGNS OF THE SITE. >> I DROVE BY THE SITE ON MY WAY TO EAT DINNER AT THE FISH CAMP UP THERE AND THERE WAS A SIGN O.

ANY OTHER EXPERTS? SEEING NONE, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

DRIVER OF THE -- INDEPENDENT DRIVES, 1200 BLOCK OF FLORIDA.

APPLICANT AGENT FOR THIS MATTER. WAS EXCITED TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU GUYS TODAY WE'RE CALLING IT A TINY HOME BUT IT'S A MANUFACTURED HOME BUILT BY A COMPANY IN ALABAMA.

DURING THIS REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WE ENCOUNTERED -- SINCE IT'S A CUSTOM BUILT HOME IT WASN'T A TIMBER SPECIFIC MODELS. IT WAS CUSTOM BUILT WHICH MADE IT BIGGER THAN THE NORMAL STANDARDS.

WE GOT CAUGHT BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT STANDARDS, ONE WAS THE HUD STANDARD WHICH IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE ZONING.

HAS TO BE A MOBILE HOME OR MANUFACTURED HOME AND THEN THE NC STANDARDS WHICH IS NATIONAL STANDARD.

RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO OUR RECENT PARK MODELS.

IF YOU VIEW THE DRAWINGS THIS IS CLEARLY -- NOT GOING TO BE TOWED AROUND BY A FIFTH WHEELER, IT'S MEANT TO BE A PERMANENT ROAD ON THE PROPERTY. WE'LL HAVE A PORCH BUILT AROUND IT TO, A REALLY NICE PRODUCT. UNFORTUNATELY THE COMPANY IN ALABAMA BUILT IT TO THE NC STANDARDS WHICH IS TECHNICALLY AN RV ACCORDING TO THE BUILDING OFFICIALS HERE.

THERE ARE THE STEWARDS OF THAT STATUTE WE CAN'T WAVE THAT COULD ASK FOR LENIENCE FOR THE STANDARDS ONCE IT'S BUILT, THAT'S IT. SO UNFORTUNATELY IT HAS AN RV ATTACHED TO IT WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED IN THAT ZONING.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS BUT THE OWNER IS MEANT TO OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS NEARBY ONCE THEY SAW MANUFACTURER/MOBILE HOME ON THE MARKET, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IT'S JUST MEANT TO BE A PERMANENT DWELLING AND IT'S A CUSTOM BUILT MANUFACTURED HOME. SO WITH ALL THAT SAID WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD WITH THE COMPANY.

OFFERING NEW PLANS THAT MEET THE CRITERIA WHICH IS THE HUD STANDARD AND WE'RE NOT READY TO DATE TO PRESENT THAT.

SO RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE TO A DATE UNCERTAIN

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BUT AT LEAST A COUPLE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE 2025 DASH 15, 83 NORTH BOULEVARD.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. >> I WONDER IF WE NEED -- OKAY.

I WONDER IF WE NEED TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE

CONTINUANCE. >> WE DO.

>> THE MOTION ON THE SECONDS ON THE TABLE FOR A CONTINUANCE BUT WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS IF ANYONE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WE'LL SEE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.

>> SEEING NONE, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION?

>> ALL RIGHT SHOULD WE DO A VOICE VOTE ON THIS ALL IN FAVOR.

>> SEEING NONE, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[4. MINMOD 2025-19 109 Yellow Bill Lane. A request for a Minor Modification to the North Pointe at Ponte Vedra PUD (Ord. 2005-112, as amended) to allow for an Accessory Use setback of zero (0) in lieu of the required five (5) feet to accommodate for a detached garage.]

>> ITEM NUMBER 4. WE NEED EXPERTISE ON THIS.

>> THANK YOU, SIR, I DID A SITE VISIT AND I HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT'S.

>> I DID A SITE VISIT AND RECEIVED ONE EMAIL.

>> ANY OTHER EXPERT I'D -- >> GOOD AFTERNOON I'M TONY, THE OWNER OF 109 NEW LANE WITH MY WIFE CHRISTINA AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS IF IT'S OKAY.

I AM ASKING FOR A MINOR MODIFICATION TO THOSE SPECIFICS ADJUSTMENTS TO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SET BACK BY 5 FEET -- INITIALLY WHEN I PRESENTED, I ASKED FOR A REAL SETBACK BUT CORRECTLY CORRECTING ME, THIS IS REALLY NOT FOR THE MAIN HOUSE THIS IS JUST ACCESSORY BECAUSE IT'S A DETACHED GARAGE AND I'M

ASKING FOR THE 5 FEET. >> AGAIN AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS MINOR MODIFICATION REQUESTING THE 5 FEET.

SETBACK EARLY FOR THE STRUCTURE IS A ONE STORY DETACHED GARAGE, APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 20 FEET LONG BY 24 FEET, AROUND 480 SQUARE FEET. THERE'S NO CHANGING TO REZONING.

DENSITY OVERSIGHT FUNCTION. AND ACCESS TO THE STRUCTURE CONSISTENT WITH RESIDENTIAL USE. I HAVE HIRED CONSTRUCTION ENGINEER AND ARCHITECT TO MAKE SURE YOU MISS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I SEE SOME PICTURE I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS, LOT SIZES OF APPROXIMATELY 11,300, EXISTING HOME IS A THREE STORY HOME 1942 SQUARE FOOT AND PROPERTY BACKED INTO THE STATE LANDING IN THE BACK OF THE RESIDENCE. THERE'S NO NEIGHBORS TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY, AS YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE FIRST HOUSE AS YOU COME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF I MIGHT GO BACK -- AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY, STRUCTURE AND THE SIZE OF THE LOT IS REALLY ONLY PRACTICAL LOCATION TO ADD IN THE DETACHED GARAGE.

THE PLACE MUST BE PRESERVED CLEAR UNOBSTRUCTED ACCESS TO THE REAR OF PROPERTIES, DRIVE STRAIGHT TO THE GARAGE WILL BE STRAIGHT IN VERSUS THE GARAGE WE HAVE TO TAKE A 90-DEGREE TURN PICK ONE STORY AS I MENTIONED, ALL THE WAY TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY DESIGNED TO MINIMISE VISUAL NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER AND THE WAY OUR HOUSE IS BUILT AND FULLY COMPLIANT WITH THE ZONING.

>> I THINK I BROKE IT. >> AS YOU SEE THE PICTURE ON THE

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LEFT IS THE AREA THAT I WANT TO BUILD THE GARAGE, ROUGHLY 17 FEET DEEP AND 18 FEET WIDE. YOU SEE THE CAR THAT IS PARKED THERE, AS WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE COMING IN FOR TO TAKE CARE OF OUR SON. AS I MENTIONED THE GARAGE WILL BE ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY WHICH IS AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE PICTURE AND THIS IS A ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT THE GARAGE WILL LOOK LIKE. BASICALLY STRAIGHT IN FROM THE DRIVEWAY AND CONSISTENT WITH THE COLORING, THE ONE STORY, WHICH IS FROM OUR EXISTING HOME WITH THE SAME ROOF,, SAME ROOF MATERIAL. OUR SRS MAXIMUM ALLOWED IN PARTY, 70%. THE PROPOSED GIVING US A TOTAL OF 6300 SQUARE FEET. THAT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT 55.6%, WHICH IS WELL BELOW THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED OF THE 70%.

THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE END OF THE DRIVEWAY WITH A GARAGE LIKE YOU JUST SAW PREVIOUSLY A PICTURE LIKE THIS MORE DRAWINGS.

THIS IS ACCESS AND SAFETY CONSIDERATION BECAUSE EXISTING BECAUSE MAINTAINING CLEAR ACCESS TO THE REAR PICK IS CRITICAL FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM, LOCATED IN THE RUSH TO HAVE FULL SITE BACK TO ELIMINATE THIS ACCESS. IF WE DON'T GET THE 5 FEET, WE HAVE AN OPENING, CURRENTLY, THE EMERGENCY ACCESS IS TO THE BACK SIDE OF OUR HOUSE. THE CURRENT OPENING CAN YOU SEE THE DOUBLE GATE IS 10 FEET. IF I DON'T GET THE 5 FEET APPROVAL AND MAKE IT ONLY 7 FEET DEEP MAKING IT 20 FEET DEEP FOR THE GARAGE AND IF I DON'T GET THE REAR SETBACK CAN I GET THAT OPENING FROM 10 FEET BECOMES 3 FEET BASICALLY, WHICH IS NOT SUFFICIENT FOR ACCESS FOR SA SAFETY.

THERE'S NO IMPACT TO TRAFFIC, DRAINAGE, INFRASTRUCTURE, SAFETY. ITS EXISTING HOME, IT'S A LOT CONFIGURATION AND IT'S REALLY A STANDARD SETBACK TO PREVENT NECESSARY ACCESS CONSISTENT WITH THE CODE INTENT AND MAKE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS FUNCTIONING WITHOUT IMPACTING THE SURROUNDINGS THERE IS NO ADVERSE IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTIES, NO IMPACT TO TRAFFIC DRAINAGE OR UTILITIES GARAGE NOT VISIBLE FROM THE REAR OF THE NEIGHBORS AS IT'S A CONSERVATION LAND.

COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING INITIAL DEVELOPMENT AND I ALREADY HAVE A APPROVED FOR THIS AS WELL.

AGAIN IT'S A MINIMAL REQUEST FOR A 5-FOOT SETBACK RELIEF FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. THERE'S NO NEIGHBORS IN THE BACK SIDE, FULLY COMPLIANT WITH AISHAA AND THERE'S NO MEASURABLE NEGATIVE IMPACT. HAVE REQUESTED WE GET APPROVAL FOR THIS MODIFICATION AS PRESENTED HERE THANK YOU FOR

YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? >> HAVE YOU GOTTEN APPROVAL FROM YOUR HOA FOR THIS REDUCTION? I DON'T SEE THAT IN YOUR APPLICATION. OKAY, I PROBABLY JUST MISSED IT I I APOLOGISE. THE PLAN YOU GAVE US, THERE'S A STRIP NEXT TO YOUR HOME -- IT STRAIGHT TO -- CAR TO UNDERSTAND IS THE PROPERTY UNDER THE GAZEBO OR IS IT PART OF IT?%

IT'S A BIT CONFUSING. >> GOOD QUESTION.

LEGALLY, THE GAZEBO THAT WAS BUILT INITIALLY IS IN OUR PROPERTY, WHEN WE BUILT THE HOUSE WE DONATED IT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THE COMPANY WANTED TO TAKE IT OUT BECAUSE IT'S A BUS STOP FOR THE KIDS AND THE PEOPLE GO TO THE BEACH.

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>> IT'S NICE, IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL.

>> I WANTED TO TAKE IT BUT MY WIFE WOULDN'T LET ME.

[LAUGHING] >> SHE'S LOVELY.

OKAY SO 30 FEET ON THE SIDE OF YOUR HOUSE -- IS THAT AN

EASEMENT. >> IT'S UTILITY.

>> SO YOU REALLY CAN'T BUILD INTO THAT.

>> TANAKAK WE'RE NOT PLANNING TO DO ANY DEVIATION FROM THE EAST

SIDE, -- >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >> MR. OLSEN.

>> I WANTED TO JUST FOLLOW UP ON THE QUESTION JUST ASKED - -- I. GUESS GRANTING THIS EASEMENT BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW OF EASEMENT ARGUMENTS ABOUT APPLICANT'S, THIS COULD OPEN UP THE DOOR TO OTHER REQUESTS FOR EASEMENT IN THE SUBDIVISION TO, ALSO UP TO THE BUILD ACCESSORY BUILDINGS UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE. I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD HERE, THE 10-FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT WILL NOT HAVE ANY CONSTRUCTION ON IT. SO HAS ANYONE ASSESSD THE POSSIBILITY, WHETHER OTHER HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL ALSO BE WANTING EASEMENTS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF ACCESSORY BUILDINGS UP TO THE ZERO LOT LINE?

>> THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. I CANNOT GUARANTEE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE WILL DO BUT THOSE HOA PRESENTED FOR TWO YEARS AND DURING THAT TIME NO ONE HAS EVER APPROACHED TO DO THAT. PLUS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS EVERY APPLICATION, BECAUSE I DID RECEIVE THIS MORNING A LETTER FROM ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT WAS HIS CONCERN AS WELL BUT THE THING IS SPECIFIC APPLICATION, SO IT'S NOT A GENERIC. BECAUSE I ..., EVERYBODY HAS TO DO THE SAME THING. THIS IS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLE, IT'S FOR SAFETY AND IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE OF ACT OF BEING LIKE -- WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT THAT WAY.

>> I THOUGHT THE LETTER THAT CAME TODAY, I THINK I SAW IT TOO BY EMAIL WAS THAT THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT APPROACHING ON THE

FRONT SETBACKS. >> KNOWS HER --

>> I DIDN'T SEE THAT, EVEN -- THERE'S VARIANCE BUILDING UP.

>> THERE IS NOTHING IN THE FRONT.

EVERYTHING IS JUST 5 FEET IN THE BACK.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> THERE'S GOING TO BE A SINGLE CAR GARAGE?

>> YES. ALSO HAVE GARAGES UNDERNEATH THE

HOUSES AS WELL, CORRECT? >> CORRECT.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE HARDSHIP WOULD BE FOR A

SINGLE GARAGE. >> WE DO HAVE EXISTING GARAGE ACTUALLY WE HAVE A THREE CAR GARAGE, IT'S USED FOR THE MOBILITY EVENT THAT WE USE FOR OUR SON AND ALSO HE HAS A LOT OF OTHER EQUIPMENT LIKE SUCH AS WHEELCHAIRS BECAUSE IT'S HARD ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE HIM FOR HIS APPOINTMENT DUE TO THE 90-DEGREE TURN IN FACT ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE THE CARS FROM OUR NURSES AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE.

SO HAVING THE GARAGE JUST STRAIGHT IN AND OUT CHECK IT MAKES THAT MUCH EASIER FOR ACCESS.

>> SO PRIMARILY GOING TO BE USED FOR SPECIAL VAN.

>> YES. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS I HAVE A COUPLE REAL QUICK. YOU SAID YOU DONATED THAT PROPERTY WITH A PAVILION ON IT TO THE HOA THE DONATE THE -- DID YOU BRING THEM AN EASEMENT WITH THE STRUCTURE UNDER?

>> NOT REALLY SURE. >> IF YOU DONATED THE FEE SIMPLE, I CAN SAY YOU HAVE A HARDSHIP ALONE, NOT TO MENTION YOUR OTHER HARDSHIP, WHICH IS A PHYSICAL ONE BUT FOR THE PROPERTY, YOU HAVE AN UNUSUALLY SHAPED LOT WITH THAT PROPERTY GONE OF YOUR OWNERSHIP -- THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED BUILDING -- I WANT TO USE THAT PORTION BUT AGAIN THE NEIGHBORS -- BEING NICE TO OUR NEIGHBORS I DECIDED TO KEEP IT ESPECIALLY FOR SCHOOL BUS FOR THE KIDS AT THE TIME IF WE HAD TAKEN IT AWAY, HAD TO BE

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IN RAIN AND EVERYTHING ELSE -- SO NOW WITH THE 0-FOOT SETBACK HERE, YOU BUILT RIGHT ON YOUR PROPERTY LINE, THE IGUANA RESERVE BUT BEHIND YOU THERE'S A 10-FOOT BUFFER.

>> YES. >> IT'S PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTY, THE HOA. HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO ANYONE AT THE IGUANA RESERVE OR HAVE THEY CONTACTED YOU.

>> UNDERSTANDING WHEN I SAW THE LIST OF 30 SOMETHING PEOPLE SENDING THE LETTERS LIKE I THOUGHT ONE OF THEM WAS THAT.

>> MAYBE SOMEONE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON IT LIKE I DON'T KNOW.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT THAT.

>> I HAVE NO IDEA. >> OKAY ALL RIGHT THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER? IF SO CAN YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD TO ONE OF THE MICROPHONES GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

NOBODY HERE OKAY WE ARE BACK IN THE AGENCY OR MOTION, DISCUSSION

AND A VOTE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MINOR MODIFICATION BASED UPON SIX FINDINGS AND SUBJECT TO SIX CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED WITHIN THE STAFF

REPORT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION YOU'RE JUST A BIT LATE THERE ANY DISCUSSION -- SEEING NONE, WE WOULD LIKE TO VOTE. LET'S PUT THAT ON SCREEN FOR US, THANK YOU. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[5. MAJMOD 2025-11 Golfway Centre PUD. Request for a Major Modification to the Golfway Centre PUD (Ordinance 1997-67, as amended) to revise the MDP Map and MDP Text to allow the remaining development to occur on the property as either Commercial Retail and Commercial Office uses; revise the phasing schedule to a single 10-year phase; add Church and Large Places of Assembly as allowable uses; allow details of future buildings and associated development to be shown on Incremental MDP Maps; and eliminate the requirement to preserve the isolated wetland on site.]

OKAY, PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

TIME. >> THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER 5, WE NEED EXPERT A ON THIS.

THIS IS A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO THE GULF STANDARD PRESENTER

KATHRYN WHITTINGTON. >> MR., I DID A SITE VISIT, PHONE CONVERSATION WITH RANDY I SPOKE WITH JANE OF SAINT JOHNS RIVER KEEPERS -- APOLOGISE, I HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION AND I SPOKE WITH DANNY LIPPI OF ADVANCED CARE.

>> MR. LABANOWSKI. >> ONE EMAIL.

>> SITE VISIT AND LOOKS LIKE FOR EMAILS.

>> OKAY, MR. GREEN IS HERE. I VISITED THIS SITE PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE HEARD AN APPLICANT FOR A DIFFERENT USE APPLICATION BACK IN 2023I BELIEVE IT WAS. SO I HAVE SEEN THE SITE SO DO

YOU HAVE ANYTHING, MR. GREEN. >> THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

>> I'M CATHERINE, MY ADDRESS IS 236 AND SAINT AUGUSTINE.

WITH ME HERE TODAY IS BILL, OUR ENGINEER AND TRANSPORTATION EXPERT, ALSO OUR PLANNER WITH KIMLEY-HORN, PROJECT MANAGER WHICH IS THE APPLICANT AND A CERTIFIED PROFESSIONAL AND SCIENTIST. ALSO, BEFORE WE BEGIN I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR REVIEWER EVAN ALL OF WHICH HE DID A REALLY GREAT JOB ON THE REVIEW AND STAFF REPORT.

ON THE LEFT, YOU HAVE THE FUTURE MAP AND -- YOU SEE THE DARK PURPLE WITHIN THE PINK AREA IS A MIXED USE FUTURE LAND USE AT THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT AND NEAR THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF IGP AND I-95. ON THE RIGHT IS THE ZONING MAP AND IT'S ENTIRELY BEAUTY INCLUDING THIS PROJECT, ALL IN BLUE COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY IT.

THIS MAP SHOWS THE PROJECT LOCATION WITHIN THE PD, THERE'S ALREADY THE TREE OF LIFE BUILDING -- IT'S KNOWN AS THAT BUT IT'S THE OPP HEADQUARTERS ALREADY BUILT.

THE POND AND THE ROADWAY, THAT'S ALREADY THERE.

WHAT YOU SEE IN RED IS THE REMAINING DEVELOPMENT AREA THAT THE APPLICATION APPLIES TO. ABOUT 4 ACRES WERE BUILT OUT

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ALREADY BUT THERE REMAINS 23.3 ACRES AND 221,032 SQUARE FEET OUT OF THE ORIGINAL 293,000.

THIS IS SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT MAP AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S COMPLETELY SURROUNDED. YOU SEE THE TREE LIKE BUILDING, THE APARTMENTS, APARTMENT PRESERVED ON THE LEFT LAKES ON THE RIGHT AND ACROSS IGP IS MARKLAND.

IT'S NOTABLE THAT THIS IS THE LAST REMAINING LAND IN THIS QUADRANT THAT IS NOT BUILT OUT. SO THERE ARE FIVE REQUESTED CHANGES TO THE POD TO ADJUST THE ALREADY APPROVED NON-RESIDENTIAL ROUTES TO BETTER POSITION THE PROJECT FOR SUCCESSFUL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE THAT WE ARE NOW PROPOSING ANY INCREASE IN DEVELOPMENT SQUARE FOOTAGE PROPOSED AS I MENTIONED 221000 OUT OF 32 ALREADY APPROVED COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND OFFICE USES COULD BE LOCATED ANYWHERE WITHIN THE PUD. I'LL EXPLAIN THAT IN A MOMENT.

ALSO TO REMOVE DEVELOPMENT, SPECIFIED DEVELOPMENT ACREAGES I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES PICK THE THIRD TO ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT TO PRESERVE THE ISOLATED WETLANDS ON SITE, AT CHURCH AND LARGE PLACES OF THE ASSEMBLY AND TO DEVELOP IT IN A SINGLE 10-YEAR PHASE.

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 1997 AND THEN IT WAS MODIFIED IN 2000 WHICH IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN EFFECT TODAY.

SO YOU CAN SEE THIS FOR EXAMPLE -- WE DON'T HAVE A POINTER.

THE TOP LEFT COMMERCIAL OFFICE JACKET SPECIFIES WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AND HOW MANY ACRES. HERE ON THE RIGHT YOU SEE COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE, 323 ACRES, THAT'S NO LONGER ALLOWED IN THIS POD. HERE WE HAVE COMMERCIAL RETAIL 4.12 ACRES COMMERCIAL RETAIL HERE 2.51 AND COMMERCIAL PARCEL OVER HERE. NOT VERY GOOD AT DRAWING ON THIS THING. WE DON'T HAVE A POINTER ANYMORE, UNTIL IT. THIS IS THE CURRENT MDP MAP FROM 2000. THIS PARCEL ACREAGES AND AMOUNTS OF DEVELOPMENT HAVE CHANGED OVER TIME AND ALL OF THEM SAY APPROXIMATE ACREAGE, YOU CAN SEE IT THERE ON THE RIGHT, IT'S HARD TO READ BECAUSE IT'S VERY OLD APPROXIMATE INTEGERS, APPROXIMATE DEVELOPED FOR AREA AND YOU CAN SEE TOP RIGHT YELLOW BAND -- GONNA HAVE TO CLEAR THIS HERE PICK THAT SAYS COMMERCIAL OFFICE AREA AND IT'S POINTING TO THIS.

THIS HERE SAYS COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND IS POINTING HERE AND HEAR, HEAR SO THIS IS A RATHER ANTIQUATED -- AND UNUSUAL PUDS STAFF POINTED OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT THERE ARE OTHER CURRENT LARGE POD PROJECTS THAT DON'T HAVE THESE LIMITATIONS OF WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT CAN GO AND WHAT ENCOURAGES IT CAN GO.

I BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED IS THEY DEVELOPED -- ORIGINALLY THE SAINT JOE COMPANY DEVELOPED A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S WHAT THEY PRESENTED TO GET APPROVED THEN IT CHANGED AND IN 2000 THEY PRESENTED A CHANGE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY SAY THEY'RE ALL APPROXIMATE.

IF YOU LOOK HERE, THAT SAYS EXCESS PARKING AND OTHER USES, DOESN'T EVEN SAY WHAT KIND OF USE OR WHAT ACREAGE IT IS.

IT'S KIND OF A WEIRD DEVELOPMENT PARCEL.

>> THIS IS THE NEW PROPOSED NDP MAP THAT HAS REMOVED THOSE SPECIFIC ANCHORAGES AND SQUARE FOOTAGE TO PROVIDE GREATER FLEXIBILITY THAN THE CURRENT PLAN ALLOWS.

AS I NOTED WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT SQUARE FOOTAGE OR RIGHTS. THIS IS THE DEVELOP AREA THAT

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WOULD BE ALLOWED TO THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE TUCKED IN THE BACK, THE RETAIL WAS IN FRONT WAS STRANGE SIZE AND LOCATED PARCELS WHICH HAVE PROVED TO BE DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP.

IT REMAINS UNSOLD AFTER 20 YEARS.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO TRACK AN ANCHOR TENANT OR IN-LINE HIGHER AND RETAIL WITH THESE PARCELS SPREAD OUT AND SPECIFIED THE WAY THEY ARE. HERE'S A CONCEPT PLAN WHICH IS MORE MARKETABLE, IT'S JUST A CONCEPT PLAN OF WHAT COULD BE DONE AND ALLOWS MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE ALLOWED USES AND ADDITIONAL PARKING NECESSARY TO ACCOMMODATE ANCHOR TENANTS AND INLINE RETAIL THAT'S THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE WETLAND THAT WE'RE ASKING TO IMPACT.

YOU COULD SEE HOW MUCH PARKING IT TAKES, HOW IT BREAKS UP THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE REAR AND OVER TIME IT HASN'T WORKED AND IT HAS SEVERELY LIMITED THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN OCCUR.

THE SLIDE SHOWS THE USES IN THE PUD, THE BLUE IS WHAT'S ALLOWED IN BOTH COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE THEY OVERLAP, A LOT OF THEM OVERLAP. THE YELLOW IS COMMERCIAL RETAIL ONLY AND THE PINK IS COMMERCIAL OFFICE ONLY.

BECAUSE SOME OF THEM OVER LIGHT IT MAKES SENSE TO US TO DISTINGUISH WHAT COULD GO WHERE. BY THE WAY THESE ARE ALL OF THE APPROVED USES EXCEPT THE CHURCH LARGE PLACES ASSEMBLIES THAT WERE REQUESTING. AS I SAID THEY'VE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO GET THIS PROPERTY SOLD AND DEVELOPED FOR OVER 20 YEARS ANY WAY THEY COULD. THIS WAS AN APPLICATION -- MIGHT BE ONE THAT THE DOCTOR TALKED ABOUT -- THIS WAS THE GULF WAY MULTIFAMILY PROJECT WITH 303 MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS PROPOSED AND AN ATTEMPT TO LEAVE THE WETLAND ATTACK AND TURN THAT INTO PASSIVE RECREATION, HOWEVER THAT PURCHASED OR DEVELOP LATER ABANDONED THIS PROJECT AFTER THE APPLICATION.

THAT WAS IN 2023. THIS IS IN 2025.

PURCHASE DEVELOPER ATTEMPTED -- 198 LOCAL TOWNHOMES AGAIN ABANDONED PROJECT. SO ON TO THE WETLAND, ONE OF THE REQUESTED CHANGES IMPACTED, AND I SHOWED IT TO YOU NEAR THE CENTER OF THE PROJECT, THE APPLICANT HIRED CERTIFIED PROFESSIONAL WETLAND SCIENTIST TO ELEVATE -- TO EVALUATE THIS WETLAND AND HE'S HERE TODAY IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT I HAVEN'T ANSWERED REGARDING THIS WETLAND.

THERE'S ALSO AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THAT I BELIEVE IS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT PACKAGE SO THE ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE HAVE DETERMINED THE WETLAND IS ISOLATED AND THE DEGRADED LOW POLY WETLAND PROTECTED SPECIES HAVE BEEN OBSERVED OR KNOWN TO USE IT.

PREVIOUS STITCHING CONNECTIVITY, 60 YEARS AGO RESULTED IN HYDROLOGICAL ALTERATION AND DIMINISHED NATURAL FUNCTION.

IT'S NOT A UNIQUE ECOLOGICAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL NATURE TO CLASSIFY IT AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL KNOWN AS ESA.

THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY PURCHASED SUFFICIENT MITIGATION AND THAT SO FEW YEARS BACK TO MITIGATE IMPACTS TO THE WETLAND MITIGATION PROPOSED PROVIDES GREATER LONG TERM ECOLOGICAL VALUE THAN THE WETLAND ITSELF. DIDN'T EXERT JURISDICTION, WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT HAS RELEASED ITS CONSERVATION EASEMENT OVER THE PROPERTY. COPIES OF THE RELEASE AND LATER ON THE LEFT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THE RECORDED RELEASE IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE DISTRICT AND THEN YOU SEE THE FIRST STAGE OF THE ACTUAL RECORDED RELEASE PICK THAT WAS IN 21.

I'LL TURN OVER TO BILL TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AND ENGINEERING LESSONS YOU MAY H HAVE.

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM BILL, ASSOCIATE 1240 PARKWAY -- I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND I AM HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT TO TOUCH ON THE TRANSPORTATION ASPECT OF THE PROJECT.

A COUPLE THINGS TO SHARE CALCULATE YOUR INTERESTING ABOUT HISTORY OF THE PROJECT AND THE AGE OF THE PROJECT, IT'S UNIQUE AND IT HAS A FINAL CERTIFICATE CONCURRENCY.

IN 2018 THE COUNTY STARTED EXEMPTING NON-RESIDENTIAL USES FROM CONCURRENCY QUANGBUI AGAIN BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL APPROVALS FOR THIS PROJECT OCCURRED BEFORE 2018, THERE IS AGAIN THE FINAL CERTIFICATE OF CONCURRENCY THAT IS IN PLACE AND REMAINS VALID TODAY. SO THE USES THAT THE 221,000 APPROXIMATELY SQUARE FEET OF USES HAVE AN APPROVED CONCURRENCY CERTIFICATE WITH RESERVED TRIPS WITHIN THE COUNTRY'S TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS SPREADSHEET FOR THE PROJECT. SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN TYPICAL NON-RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS THAT YOU MAY SEE.

I WANT TO SHARE THAT, SECOND AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IS THE REQUEST THAT IS BEFORE THE AGENCY TODAY IS NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THE INTENSITY OF THE PROJECT. SO AT THIS POINT THERE'S NO REQUEST TO CHANGE THAT CERTIFICATE OF CONCURRENCY AND NO CHANGE RIGHT NOW WE SEE THAT WOULD RESULT IN ANY ADDITIONAL TRIPS OR TRAFFIC BEING GENERATED BY THIS PROJECT.

A COUPLE THINGS, ACCESS IS ON PARKLAND TRAIL, I'VE GOT A SLIDE THAT WILL FOCUS ON THAT HERE IN A SECOND.

AGAIN, THE TRAIL WAS CONSTRUCTED AS A FOUR-LANE DIVIDED -- A VERY SIGNIFICANT COLLECTOR ROAD. AGAIN WHEN THE VILLAGE WAS ALREADY DEVELOPED THERE WAS A VISION FOR THERE TO BE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE OFFICE COMMERCIAL SPACE USING THIS ROAD, USING PARKLAND TRAIL, MUCH OF IT HAS NOT COME TO FRUITION AS MUCH AS THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT DEVELOPED FOR RESIDENTIAL USES RATHER THAN THIS NONRESIDENTIAL USE. SO THE IMPORTANT PIECE OF THAT IS PARKLAND PRESERVED HAS PLENTY OF CAPACITY TO ACCEPT THE TRIPS THAT ARE GOING TO BE GENERATED AND HAVE ALREADY BEEN RESERVED FOR THIS PROJECT. CERTAINLY AS WELL PARKLAND PRESERVE IS A SINGLE ROAD OR CONNECTS TO THE COUNTY SYSTEM AT A SIGNALISED INTERSECTION AT INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY.

>> STAFF HAS BEEN TERRIFIC TO WORK WITH AND I FELT LIKE THE SUMMARY THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE TRANSPORTATION AND CONCURRENCY STAFF PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT WAS TERRIFIC.

SO WE PULLED A COUPLE EXCERPTS FROM IT AND I'LL JUST HIT THEM QUICKLY. FIRST, AND THESE ARE ALL EXCERPTS FROM THE STAFF REPORT, ONE, THE APPLICANT WAS ISSUED AN FCOC. ...THE BUILD OUT OF THE POD AND THEN THE THIRD, EXPLAINING A BIT MORE, ALTHOUGH TRAFFIC IMPACTS HAVE BEEN MITIGATED, STAFF WILL REVIEW THE SITE ACCESS DESIGN AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW TO DETERMINE ANY NECESSARY ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS TO PROVIDE SAFE AND EFFICIENT ACCESS TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

SO LET ME EXPAND ON THAT AND I THINK THAT'S THE NEXT SLIDE WILL EXPLAIN IT. ON PARKLAND TRAIL WHICH IS THE FOUR-LANE ROAD, FOUR-LANE DIVIDED ROAD PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE PROJECT, WHEN IT WAS CONSTRUCTED TURN LEADS FOR CONSTRUCTION ON THE ROAD IN ANTICIPATION OF THE USES THAT WERE APPROVED AND THE CONCURRENCY CERTIFICATES.

ON HERE -- LET'S SEE IF I CAN SKETCH AS WELL, YOU CAN SEE THE AREAS, THE RIGHT TURN LANE WAS ALREADY CONSTRUCTED TO THIS EXISTING DRIVEWAY, LEFT TURN LANE ALREADY CONSTRUCTED, LEFT TURN LANE CONSTRUCTED HERE, RIGHT TURN LANE CONSTRUCTED H HERE. RIGHT AND THROUGH LEFT TURN LANE CONSTRUCTED HERE. SO ALL OF THOSE ITEMS AGAIN WERE CONSTRUCTED BASED ON THE TRAFFIC ANTICIPATED UNDER THAT CERTIFICATE, IN THE COUNTY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AS A PART OF THE HORIZONTAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE TO DO A SITE ACCESS ANALYSIS. SO THAT IS WHAT THE STAFF COMMENT IS REFERRING TO. WHEN WE SUBMIT OUR CONSTRUCTION

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PLANS, WE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND UPDATE THE STUDY TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THESE TURN LANES AND THE SIGNAL OPERATION THAT PROVIDES ACCESS ARE STILL ADEQUATE.

SO IF ANYTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE THE ORIGINAL STUDY WAS DONE FOR THE CONCURRENCY CERTIFICATE, THAT WILL BE RE-EVALUATED AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN PROCESS.

AGAIN, AT THIS POINT TO THE, TURN LANES IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED TO SERVE US AND SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

>> A COUPLE PICTURES OF THE ACTUAL MAIN INTERSECTION PROVIDING ACCESS TO PARKLAND TRAIL.

THIS IS PARKLAND TRAIL LOOKING SOUTH AT THE INTERSECTION, A SIGNALISED INTERSECTION AND THE SIGNAL WAS INSTALLED BY THE DRY MASTER DEVELOPER AS A CONDITION OF THE DRY OF THE SAINT JOHN'S DRY. FINALLY ON TRAFFIC COMING BACK TO CAPACITY AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE REFER TO A LITTLE EARLIER IS -- MY STAFF R&D ANALYSIS OF CURRENT BUILDOUT TRIPS ANTICIPATED ON PARKLAND TRAIL AND AS SHOWN TODAY WITH BUILDOUT OF EVERYTHING ANTICIPATED IN NORTHEAST QUADRANT, BASICALLY FOR THE SECTION OF PARKLAND TRAIL THAT IS TO THE WEST OF THE GULFWAY DRIVE AT BUILDOUT, WERE EXPECTING THE ROADWAYS CAPACITY TO BE USED AT ABOUT A 60% UTILISATION RATE. AND THEN FOR THE SECTION, AS YOU GET UP TO INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY, WE'RE FORECASTING A BUILDOUT USE OF ABOUT 64% OF CAPACITY.

SO EVERYTHING WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS THERE IS AVAILABLE CAPACITY STILL REMAINING CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL STUDY AND THE APPROVALS THAT WERE PROVIDED WITH THE FINAL CERTIFICATE OF CONCURRENCY THAT STILL EXISTS TODAY.

SO THAT'S EVERYTHING I HAVE ON TRAFFIC AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO MISS WEDDINGTON.

>> UNDER THE JUSTIFICATION AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAND CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, 2.2.4, IT'S NOT AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA REQUIRED TO BE PROTECTED UNDER THE PLAN.

ARTICLE 12 A, E, F AND G OF THE CODE IS NOT BEING DETERMINED AND ... POLICY E .2.9 B, IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT WATER DEPTHS ARE SHALLOW AND IN PERIODS HAVE BEEN REDUCED BY DITCHING THE SURROUNDING AGRICULTURAL FIELD TULSI GABBARD SIX YEARS AGO, RESULTING IN THE WETLAND BEING HYDROLOGICALLY ALTERED AND THUS HAVING DIMINISHED NATURAL FUNCTIONS, A COUPLE MORE, 8.1.

3.11 OF THE PLAN, SHALL NOT BE APPROVED IF UNREASONABLY IMPACTS THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, THE ECOLOGICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMNT DEMONSTRATES THAT IT DOES NEITHER AND IN FACT I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THIS WETLAND IS 14.6% OF THE ENTIRE PUD. SECTION 10.2 .1.2 A, B AND 10.2 .2.3, IT'S FROM THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT ERP APPLICANT'S HANDBOOK. THE ECOLOGICAL FUNCTIONS PROVIDED BY THE WETLAND IS BASED ON SITE SPECIFIC ANALYSIS USING THE FACTORS SPECIFIED IN 10.2 .2.3 AND THE PROPOSED MITIGATION WILL PROVIDE GREATER LONG TERM ECOLOGICAL VALUE THAN THE AREA OF WETLAND TO BE IMPACTED. THEN, SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF THE MODIFICATION, ELIMINATION OF THE LOCATION DEVELOPMENT ENCOURAGES CREATING A MORE EFFICIENT PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, ELIMINATING WETLAND NEAR THE PROPERTY WILL LIKELY INCREASE MARKET AVAILABILITY. ITS INFILL DEVELOPMENT ALONG SIGNALISED EXISTING FOUR-LANE DIVIDED ROAD AS BILL JUST SHOWED YOU. MIXED USE PROJECT TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN SERVING THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY AND EAST OF I-95 IGP INTERSECTION WHERE THERE'S VERY LITTLE NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME, RESULTING INTERNAL CAPTURE BY RETAIL AND SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED AND COMPLIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS FROM THE STAFF REPORT, THE MODIFICATIONS ARE

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CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TYPES THAT LAND ON OBJECTIVE A1 NINE OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR MIXED USE DISTRICT, REMOVING RESTRICTIONS ON COMMERCIAL USES ALIGNS THIS DEVELOPMENT MORE CLOSELY WITH THE POLICIES GOVERNING MIXED USE DISTRICTS AND LESLIE IN COMPARISON, THE SAINT JOHN'S INTERCHANGE PARCELS PUD WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THIS PUD AND TWO NEARBY LARGE PUDS THAT HAVE SPECIFIED ENTITLEMENTS THE MAPS DON'T RESTRICT COMMERCIAL USAGE TO SPECIFIC CATEGORIES OR LOCATIONS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THE FACT THAT THIS ONE DID IS HANDICAPPING IT AND MAKING IT DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP.

WITH THAT, I AND THE TEAM ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU

MAY HAVE. >> THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS. >> I WANTED TO BURROW INTO A TRANSPORTATION QUESTION. THE MODIFICATION REQUEST THE ADDITION OF CHURCHES, CHURCH IN LARGE PLACES OF ASSEMBLY AS PART OF THE ALLOWABLE USES. THAT -- COULD THAT POSSIBLY UNDER SOME SCENARIOS AFFECT THE TRANSPORTATION CAPACITY -- AND I'M THINKING -- I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT EXAMPLES MIGHT BE BUT I'LL JUST THROW OUT A MEGACHURCH, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM, NECESSARILY IN OUR MARKET RIGHT NOW, THEY REALLY DO ATTRACT A HUGE -- THEY USE ALMOST JUMBOTRON SCREENS AND HAVE A HUGE AUDIENCE OR ATTENDANCE.

PROBABLY AND THEIR EVENTS AT ONE TIME.

HOW WILL THAT AFFECT THE MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC ON THIS SITE BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE THAT COULD HAVE OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE LEAVING THE SITE AT ONE TIME TRYING TO GET TO MAYBE I-95. HAS THAT BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH OR WOULD THAT NOT BE DONE AT THIS POINT?

>> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

COUPLE THOUGHTS TO THAT, YOUR SPOT ON.

THE ANALYSIS THAT HAS BEEN DONE TO DATE AS A COMMERCIAL OFFICE -- COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE TYPE PIECES ON THE SITE.

IF THERE WERE A CHANGE TO SOMETHING LIKE A MEGACHURCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT CERTAINLY THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WOULD BE DONE AGAIN AT THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL TIME TO REVIEW WHATEVER THOSE CHANGES WOULD BE. AGAIN, THE INTERESTING THING ON THE MEGACHURCH IS YOUR RIGHT, YOU DO GET A SURGE OF TRAFFIC, BUT THE UPSIDE TO THAT IS TYPICALLY IT'S ON A WEEKEND OR TYPICALLY NOT ON -- COINCIDING WITH THE PEAK HOURS OF THE ADJACENT TRAFFIC. SO AGAIN, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT ANALYSIS HAS NOT BEEN DONE YET BUT IT WOULD BE DONE IF A MEGACHURCH WERE TO COME TO THE SITE AND WOULD -- WE WOULD BE REQUIRED UNDER THE CODE TO DO THAT TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND LOOK

AT THAT. >> THANK YOU.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION. >> MR. GREEN.

>> IS SPARKLING TRAIL CONSIDERED A MINOR COLLECTIVE ROAD?

>> GOOD QUESTION. WOULD BE AT LEAST A MINOR COLLECTOR. I DON'T KNOW -- BECAUSE TECHNICALLY IT'S NOT A COUNTY ROAD.

PARKLAND TRAIL IS STILL A PRIVATELY OWNED RIGHT OF WAY.

SO I DON'T KNOW THE COUNTIES ACTUALLY CLASSIFIED IT BUT BASED ON THE CLASSIFICATION OR BASED ON THE WAY IT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED IT WOULD ADD A MINIMUM AT LEAST MINOR COLLECTOR, POSSIBLY MAJOR COLLECTOR BUT I DON'T KNOW THE COUNTY HAS MADE THAT SPECIFICATION.

>> SO IT'S SPECT AS A MINOR COLLECTIVE ROAD.

>> IT WOULD AT LEAST EXCEED THAT BUT CERTAINLY IT'S FOUR-LANE DIVIDED, HAS SIDEWALKS ET CETERA.

SO IT COMPLIES WITH MANY OTHER COUNTY'S REQUIREMENTS.

>> DOES THE COUNTY EVENTUALLY GET THE ROAD OR DOES IT STAY

PRIVATE? >> WE DON'T OWN THE ROADS.

WE'RE NOT SURE. WE THINK WE DON'T OWN THE ROAD AND IT'S PRIVATE. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHO ACTUALLY OWNS THAT RIGHT OF WAY BUT WE DON'T.

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>> BUT YOU HAVE AVAILABILITY TO USE THEM.

>> YES. ALL THE WAY BACK TO PARKLAND

RESERVE. >> THAT'S ALL THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS? MR. LABANOWSKI.

>> GOOD OLD BOOKIES INTERSECTION, IT'S A NIGHTMARE ALREADY PICK ONE IS A START UP DATE OF THE PROJECT ITSELF.

>> THE TEXT CALLS FOR A SINGLE 10-YEAR PHASE AND IT STARTS UPON APPROVAL OF CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND THEN FINISHES ON APPROVAL OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO SERVE THE WHOLE PROJECT.

SO IT DEPENDS ON HOW LONG THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS TAKE TO GET APPROVAL BUT I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THERE ARE NO INTENDS TO PURCHASE. SO IT WILL BE A WHILE BEFORE THE PURCHASER COMES ALONG AND THEY GET CONSTRUCTION PLANS APPROVED.

>> ONE OF MY MAJOR CONCERNS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE INTERSECTION IS WELL OVER CAPACITY AND I KNOW THE STATE IS WORKING ON IT AS WELL AS THE COUNTY TO IMPROVE THAT.

I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION WAS CONCERNED. THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I HATE TO SEE THE WETLANDS GO AWAY BUT IF THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN AFFECTED BY DRAINAGES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE AROUND IT, RIGHT NOW I DON'T SEE

AN ISSUE WITH IT. >> WHEN I SPOKE WITH HIM I ASKED HIM IF HE KNEW WHERE THE WETLAND MITIGATION CREDITS WOULD THINK THEY WERE -- HE WOULD SAY HE WOULD FIND OUT.

>> I BELIEVE IS THE SAINT JOHN'S MITIGATION BASIN NUMBER 5 AND --

UNDER. >> THEY CAN'T BE ALLOCATED YET UNTIL WE HAVE OUTSIDE PLAN APPROVAL.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE ABOUT ANCHORAGE OF WETLAND AND WETLAND CAN HOLD SO MUCH WATER AND THAT WATER HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE BUT IT DOES SOUND LIKE IT REALLY HAS BEEN DEGRADING BY AN INTERESTING USE -- SO I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A THING. I HAD A QUESTION -- WHEN WE WERE WALKING THIS IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY AND THAT LANE IS SO PRETTY AND THE SIDEWALKS AND ALL THE TREES ARE STARTING TO BUCKLE UP THE SIDEWALKS. WE TALKED ABOUT THE TREES AND WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN TO THE TREES WITH CONSTRUCTION GOING FORWARD, THOSE STREETS DO AGE AND THEY GROW FAST SO DEFINIELY HAVE TO BE SOME TRIMMING BACK IF NOT ANYTHING.

WHEN I CONTACTED DANNY AND TOLD THEM I WAS GOING TO DO THAT THIS IS JUST A PROBLEM WORLD WIDE, IT'S -- HUGE TREES THAT GROW SO FAST ARE BUILT TOO CLOSE TO SIDEWALKS AND WITHIN TEN YEARS, YOU'RE HAVING ROOTS BUCKLE UP WHICH IS JUST GOING TO GET WORSE. ANYWAY, HE ASKED ME TO JUST MENTION A COUPLE POSSIBILITIES FOR YOU TO CONSIDER GOING FORWARD. COULD PUT IN A SIDEWALK IF YOU COULD SCOOT IT 3 FEET AWAY I KNOW THERE'S NO SIDEWALK ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE EAST SIDE BUT ON THE WEST SIDE EFFECTS COULD THE SIDEWALK OVER 3 FEET AWAY THAT WAY THEIR ROUTES HAVE ROOM TO GROW. APART FROM DOING REALLY EXPENSIVE THINGS LIKE BARRIERS AND ALL THAT HE SAID ARE REALLY COST PROHIBITIVE, HE SAID NO MATTER WHAT DON'T CUT THEIR ROUTES, DON'T CUT THEIR ROUTES, DON'T SHAVE THEIR ROUTES, DON'T DO ANYTHING TO THEIR ROUTES BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE TREE UNSTABLE AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WORSE PROBLEMS GOING FORWARD HE SAID IT'S BETTER TO GET RID OF THE WHOLE TREE IF YOU HAVE TO DO THAT FOR YOUR CONSTRUCTION I JUST TOLD THEM I WOULD BRING THOSE UP HE SAID SIDEWALKS ARE GOOD I CAN GO OVER OTHER ROUTES IF YOU CAN DO THAT SIDEWALKS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE REPLACED IN SOME PORTIONS THEY'RE DEFINITELY A HAZARD AT THIS PLACE. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT AND ASK ABOUT THE WETLANDS AND I LIKE THE QUESTION ABOUT THE CHURCH, THAT WAS A GOOD FORESIGHT PLANNING QUESTION HERE ALREADY ENTITLED TO DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AND I THINK THIS BRINGS A VIEW OF WHAT IS GOING ON TODAY THANKS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS YOU STATED SEVERAL TIMES THAT THE PROPERTY HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO BE SOLD OR DEVELOPED BECAUSE OF THE WETLAND.

>> THAT AND OTHER REASONS I'M SURE BUT THAT'S A BIG ONE BECAUSE IT BREAKS UP THAT AREA IN THE BACK AND THE PARCELS ARE SO LIMITED AND IT'S HARD TO HAVE ENOUGH PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE A GROCERY STORE OR ANCHOR TENANTS. SO THE WETLAND -- PLUS IT ALSO

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INTERFERES WITH VISIBILITY IN SOME OF THE POTENTIAL TENANTS

LOOKING AT IT WANT VISIBILITY. >> OKAY, SO THERE IS SOME EVIDENCE OUT THERE THAT THE WETLAND FOR SALE AND DEVELOPMENT

OF THE PROPERTY. >> I CAN HAVE MY CLIENT COME AND TESTIFY TO THAT FACT BUT I BELIEVE I DID A PROJECT OUT THERE FIVE YEARS AGO AND TOOK A PICTURE AND THERE WAS A FOR RENT SIGN UP THERE AND I'M SURE IT COULD BE EVIDENCE BUT THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IS TO GET MY CLIENT UP HERE TO TESTIFY TO THAT.

>> I DON'T NEED THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

>> IT WAS APPROVED IN 20,002,026, IT'S NOT THERE.

>> YOU WOULD HAVE SOLD IT. >> THAT'S WHY I THINK OUR HANDS ARE TIED ON THE TRAFFIC BUT ALL THE THAT WAS A VERY ASTUTE QUESTION BY MR. OLSEN. SO THE WETLAND LOCALITY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ARGUE THAT IT'S NOT THAT FUNCTIONAL.

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE DITCHES THAT ARE INTERNAL TO THAT -- I. KNOW THERE WAS SOME FLOW GOING INTO IT AT ONE TIME BUT INTERNAL DITCHES, THOSE COULD BE FILLED AND RESTORED FUNCTIONALITY AND SOME OF THE STRUCTURAL ASPECTS OF THAT WETLAND TO MAKE IT HIGHER QUALITY WETLAND.

>> DO YOU WANT TO GET BYRON TO ANSWER THAT.

>> LET'S GET BYRON UP HERE. AGAIN, IS THERE ANY WAY TO RESTORE OR ENHANCE THAT PARTICULAR WETLAND?

>> ONE OF THE OTHER CONCERNS IS THE STORMWATER PONDS DAUGHTER IN THE VICINITY. THEY RESPOND IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH THAT'S A NEWER DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S THE TWO EXISTING PONDS TO THE SOUTH.

THEY TEND TO LOWER THE WATER TABLE ON THE WHOLE SURROUNDING AREA. SO I REALLY DON'T THINK -- WOULD HAVE TO PUT A WELL IN THE WETLAND TO MAKE IT WETTER.

>> THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER. BILL STATED THERE'S GOING TO BE NO INCREASE IN INTENSITY OR USE -- BUT I THOUGHT YOU SHOWED A MAP THAT SAID 2.7 ANOTHER 13.7 ACRES FOR THE WETLAND.

>> ORIGINALLY -- I MIGHT NEED BYRON TO BACK ME UP ON THAT.

APPROVING THE PUD WAS SPECIFIED AS A 2.7 JURISDICTIONAL WETLAND AND IT'S NOT A CORE JURIS JURISDICTION.

IT'S ACTUALLY 3.7. >> DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO

THAT. >> WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY PERMITTED IN 1998, THE RULES AND REGULATIONS WERE A BIT DIFFERENT. UNDER CURRENT METHODOLOGY YOU CAN LOOK AT SOME INDICATORS, THE SURROUNDING AREA THE ORIGINAL WETLAND OR THE POND SITE -- NOW THERE'S A FRINGE AROUND THE EDGE AND PINE TREES DOESN'T ACTUALLY GET WET ALL THE WAY TO THE SURFACE BUT HAS ENOUGH OF A SOIL THAT TODAY IT WOULD BE A LARGER

SOURCE. >> YOU CAN SEE ON THAT AREA PHOTO YOU CAN SEE THE CYPRESS AND THEN THE SURROUNDING MAPLES AND WHAT YOU DESCRIBED IS THAT PINE ACTS AS A BUFFER AROUND

THE. >> , THAT'S GOOD.

SAINT JOHNS RIVER DISTRICT RELEASE THE EASEMENT IN 2021, ARE THEY ASKED TO RELEASE THE EASEMENT, I ASSUME IT'S.

>> , CONSERVATION EASEMENTS RELEASED.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PERPETUAL AND THAT ONE MAY HAVE BEEN

-- I. DON'T KNOW. >> BACK WHEN THE ORIGINAL ORDER MANAGEMENT PERMIT WAS ISSUED IN 1998 THERE WERE NO MITIGATION BANKS AND I LOOKED AT THE TECHNICAL STAFF REPORT OF THE IMPACTS FOR THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT INCLUDING FILLING .84 ACRE OF THE FIELD AND A SMALL FARM POND, WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT MADE THEM MITIGATE FOR THAT TO MAKE IT A LOW IMPACT SO THERE WERE NO MITIGATION IN THE AREA, THEY SET ASIDE THAT WHILE. I THINK THAT WAS A MISTAKE IN HINDSIGHT TO HAVE MITIGATION IN THE AREA ON A COMMERCIAL

PROPERTY. >> GOOD ANSWER.

THANK YOU I IT THAT'S IT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE'S NO REBUTTAL NECESSARY.

MR. MEDINA. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MAJOR MODIFICATION 2025 DASH 11 GULFWAY CENTER PD

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BASED ON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION SECONDED BY MR. OLSEN.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PUT UP THE VOTING SCREEN, PLEASE. THANK YOU PASSES UNANIMOUSLY CONGRATULATIONS, THANK YOU. MR. GREEN.

[6. REZ 2025-14 Anchor Faith - Mall 2121. Request to rezone approximately 9.56 acres of land from Commercial General (CG) to Commercial Intensive (CI), located specifically at 2121 US Highway 1 S.]

RIGHT, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 6 WHICH WE WILL NEED EXPORT DATE ON THE FIRST. MR. LABANOWSKI.

>> I SPOKE TO MELANIE AT THE FACILITY AND ALSO VISIT THE SITE AND I TALKED TO JAMES EARLY THIS MORNING.

>> I DID A SITE VISIT AND SPOKE WITH THEM PROPERTY REALTOR MANAGER AND I HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH JAMES WHITE

HOUSE. >> MR. OLSEN.

>> MR. GREEN. [INDISTINCT]

>> I ALSO VISITED THE SITE TWICE, ONCE EARLY IN THE WEEK AND ONCE LAST NIGHT ON MY WAY TO DINNER.

THE FLOOR IS YOURS, MR. WHITE HOUSE.

>> THANK YOU. I'M JAMES WHITE HOUSE A GROUP 104, MAIN STREET HERE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS 2021 COMMERCIAL REZONING 2025 DASH 14.

AS YOU ALL KNOW THIS IS LOCATED ON US ONE SOUTH, IT'S THE OLD MALL OR SOME LOCALS USED TO CALL IT THE SMALL MALL AND I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE IT IS ON US ONE SOUTH, IT'S THE WHOLE PROPERY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEY DO OWN SEVERAL OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT BUT WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE AREAS THAT ARE INGRAINED ON THE MAP ABOVE AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE STAFF REPORT OUTLINED IN YELLOW BY THE STAFF HERE WE ARE WITHIN THE MIXED USE DISTRICT AS YOU ALL KNOW IT'S A VERY LARGE MIXED USE DISTRICT GOING SOUTH FROM 312.

THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY IN COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING IT'S A MALL AND AS YOU SEE FROM THE STAFF REPORT, MALLS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IN CI BUT THIS IS IN CG BECAUSE OF THE REZONING BEING ENACTED WITHIN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES ALL AROUND IT AS WELL, THE TWO CAR DEALERSHIPS ON EITHER SIDE OF US ONE.

AN OIL CHANGE FACILITY ACROSS THE STREET THAT'S WHY YOU SEE WITHIN YOUR STAFF REPORT THIS STUFF NEEDS TO BE COMPATIBLE TO THE AREA. AS I SAID, THIS IS REQUEST TO REZONE THE INNER AREA OF THE PROPERTY FROM COMMERCIAL JOURNAL TO THE INTENSIVE THE SITE PLAN ILLUSTRATES THE BUILT IN BUFFERING FROM THE AREAS REMAINING IN THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL CATEGORY THAT SURROUNDS THE PROPERTY AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO REASON TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.

AGAIN YOU CAN SEE ON THE ZONING MAP WHERE THIS AREA IS AS IT COMPARES TO THE OTHER ZONINGS AROUND IT STRAIGHT WITHIN THE MIXED USE DISTRICT PICKED APPLICANTS REQUESTING TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 9.6 ACRES FROM LAND TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.

THE AREA REZONING IS A PART OF THE OVERALL ATTRACTIVE LAND THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 19.62 ACRES AND DEVELOPED WITHIN NON-RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE AND HAS AN OVERALL SIZE OF APPROXIMATELY 111,000 SQUARE FEET.

STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN 1981 AND WAS HISTORICALLY -- DISTANCE FROM YOUR REPORT. LIVING THE BUILDING IN 2009 AND BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IN 2021 THE STRUCTURE IS NOW PRIMARILY BEING USED AS CHARGED WITH ASSOCIATED SCHOOL ALSO EXISTING VARIOUS RETAIL STORES ALSO EXIST AS ACCESSORY USES WITHIN PLANNING STUFF NOTICE THE SHOPPING MALLS CLASSIFIED, REGIONAL BUSINESS TWO OF OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WHICH IS ALLOWED WITHIN THE PROPOSED CI ZONING DESIGNATION BUT NOT CG.

THE STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED REZONING SUBJECT PROPERTY TO COMMERCIAL INTENTS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AMONG MIXED USE CORRIDOR. AGAIN, YOU SEE FROM OUR DISCUSSION IN OUR APPLICATION AS WELL AS POSTED WITHIN YOUR STAFF REPORT, THE REASONING MERELY SEEKS TO REZONE THOSE -- THE MIDDLE AREA PARCELS THAT ARE BUFFERED FROM THE PROPERTIES BY THEIR OWN CG PARCELS THAT ARE ALSO -- THEY ALSO OWN WHICH CREATES A BUILT IN BUFFER AND PLANNING STEP DOWN INTENSITY, THE PARCEL REZONING LIMITED TO THOSE PARCELS AND WILL ALLOW SOME TEMPORARY USE OF THE AREA APPARENT PROPERTIES IN THE

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MIDDLE MIXED USE DISTRICT WHICH IS ADVOCATED BY OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH I'LL GET TO IN A MINUTE TALKS ABOUT HOW WITHIN MIXED USE DISTRICT, YOU TRY TO PUSH MORE, MORE INTENSIVE USES TO THE MIDDLE OF THE DISTRICT THEN YOU SCALE DOWN AS YOU GO OUT WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.

AGAIN, THE STUFF RATHER DISTILLED DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMMENTS YET AND AS I SAID THE PLANNING STAFF PROPOSED REZONING SUBJECT PROPERTY APPEARS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THERE HAVE BEEN NO PHONE CALLS OR ANY CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED BY YOUR STAFF THE STAFF PROVIDED MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL THE BOARD COUNTY COMMISSIONERS SEEKING REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU MR. WHITE HOUSE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? SEEING NONE, WILL TAKE ANY PUBLIC TESTIMONY CAN ANYONE SPEAK ON THIS? SEEING NONE, THERE'S NO REBUTTAL NECESSARY CONTINGENCY FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION.

MR. LABANOWSKI. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL ... BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS FACT PROVIDED IN THE

STAFF REPORT. >> SECONDED.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, VOTING SCREEN IS UP.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH HAPPY

EASTER. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE NEED TO TAKE A BREAK? A TEN-MINUTE BREAK THEN.

ALL RI SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY PLANNING AND

[7. PUD 2024-02 10150 Cartwheel Bay PUD. Request to rezone approximately 3.08 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Planned Unit Development (PUD) to allow for a maximum 22,500 square feet of Neighborhood Business, Community Commercial, and limited Agricultural uses located at 10150 Cartwheel Bay Avenue.]

ZONING AGENCY BOARD IS BACK IN SESSION.

RIGHT ON TIME, 3:22. WE NEED EXPERTISE ON ITEM NUMBE.

MR. LABANOWSKI. >> I TALKED TO MATT EARLIER TODAY, ALSO 43 LAYERS WERE PROVIDED BY STAFF HERE THEY WERE

MAILED IN AND 20 EMAILS. >> I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MATT TODAY ABOUT THE CHANGES TO THE PROPOSAL AND ALSO DROVE BY

THE SITE TODAY ON THE WAY HERE. >> I DID A SITE VISIT,, CONVERSATION WITH DAVE WHO IS THE MANAGER OF AUTOMATICS AND I

HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION ALSO. >> AND EMAILS AND

CORRESPONDENCE. >> I HAD A CONVERSATION THIS MORNING ABOUT THE APPLICATION AND THE CHANGES.

>> MR. OLSEN. >> SPOKE TO THIS MR. YESTERDAY, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM. HAD A CALL FROM HIM TODAY AND WE DISCUSSED FURTHER THE APPLICATION.

I ALSO HAVE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF EMAILS FROM -- A FEW FROM THE ADJACENT NEARBY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION AND A NUMBER OF LETTERS HERE TODAY ON OUR DESK, JUST A GREAT NUMBER, I HAVEN'T

COUNTED -- >> APPROXIMATELY 40.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> MR. GREEN.

[INDISTINCT] >> ADDRESS APPROXIMATELY 40 OF

THESE. >> I ALSO SPOKE WITH HIM TODAY EARLY AFTERNOON AND I DROVE BY THE SITE.

IT'S OVER 30 MILES FROM MY HOUSE BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GO LOOK AT IT AND GET A FEEL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SITE ITSELF. ALSO GOT THE AFOREMENTIONED EMAILS. THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

>> WE HAVE A LARGE COUNTY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION.

DESIGN GROUP 2225A1A SOUTH. HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU GUYS THE CARTWHEEL BE PUD APPLICATION. THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER IS GNG MEDICAL SERVICES, THE CURRENT TENANT IS AUTOMATICS USA AND IT'S NOW THE CONTRACT PURCHASER OF THE PROPERTY.

AS MENTIONED, AS THE SITE IS IN THE NORTHWEST PART OF THE

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COUNTY, JUST BEHIND THE SHOPPING CENTER, THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 210 AND THE PARKWAY, THIS IS THE FORMER MOSQUITO CONTROL BUILDING SO ALL OF THE STRUCTURES WERE IN PLACE AT THE TIME THAT JEANJ PURCHASED THE LAND, NONE OF THE STRUCTURES WERE BUILT AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION OR PRECEDING THIS APPLICATION. JUST A BIT OF LOCALISED PROXIMITY, THE CARTWHEEL BAY AVENUE RIGHT OF WAY SEPARATES THE REAR YARDS AND THAT'S AN EMERGENCY ACCESS YOU SEE TO THE WEST THERE. SURROUNDING US IS WHAT I BELIEVE IS CONSERVATION LAND FOR THE RETAIL CENTER TO THE SOUTH ALL BOUND UP IN ONE PARCEL SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY GOT A WETLAND DETENTION FACILITY THERE AND ... TO THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SPIRIT CURRENT ZONING IS OPEN IRL CONCURRENT LAND USE IS RNC.

NO LAND USE CHANGE PROPOSED HERE AND THE PROPOSED ZONING IS GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NORTHWEST SECTOR OVERLAY JUST A QUICK SUMMARY HERE THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION HAD A TWO PHASE PUD.

PHASE ONE WOULD ALLOW THE AUTO SERVICE CENTER POTENTIAL VET OFFICE ANIMAL HOSPITAL AND TOTAL BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 11,500 SQUARE FEET. THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION DID INCLUDE A SECOND PHASE WHICH WAS A REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE, ALLOWING UP TO 22,500 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL.

WITH THE CURRENT CONTRACT TO PURCHASE, AUTOMEDICS DESIGNERS DID NOTHING OTHER THAN OPERATING THEIR BUSINESS ON THIS SITE.

SO WE'VE REVISED THIS TO REQUEST THE AUTO SERVICE REPAIR WITH THREE SERVICE BAYS AND THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE REQUEST FOR THIS POD. NDP WOULD REMAIN AS IT LOOKS THROUGH THE, NO ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS, NOTHING ADDED, LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERING WOULD BE PART OF THE NORTHWEST SECTOR OVERLAY. THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTO OF THE CURRENT SITE. PART OF THAT COMPLIANCE YOU CAN SEE -- I. DON'T HAVE A POINTER ANYMORE BUT ON THE BOTTOM HAND PICTURE YOU CAN SEE GREEN SPACE AND WHERE THE VEHICLE IS PARKED THAT WOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMPLIANT PARKING WITHIN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR ALLOWING THE SCENIC OVERLAY OR SCENIC EDGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE IN THERE. ANOTHER AREA YOU CAN SEE THAT SIDEWALK CONNECTING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.

THIS IS A MAP OF ALL OF THE CUSTOMERS THEY TRACK THEIR CUSTOMERS AND YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY OF THE ADJACENT RESIDENTS ARE ACTUALLY USING THIS BUSINESS FIG. THE CURRENT OWNERS, GREAT COMMUNITY PEOPLE, THEY HONESTLY OFFER ANYONE IN THESE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS THE FIRST OIL CHANGE FOR FREE.

THESE ARE JUST SOME REVIEWS THAT WE PUT IN HERE, JUST MOVED HERE PROFESSIONAL, DO A GREAT JOB, SEEKING FURTHER USE HERE THESE WERE A COUPLE OF EXCERPTS FROM THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT THAT SHE RECEIVED CORRECT MY HUSBAND AND I ARE RESIDENTS THEY'VE BEEN IN PART IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND OWN AN HONEST BUSINESS.

DON'T NEED TO READ THEM THEY'RE. SO FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, PART OF NORTHWEST SECTOR AND THEY HAD A PLAN THERE THAT ALLOWS THIS COMMERCIAL USE.

THE NORTHWEST SECTOR ENCOURAGES VARIETY OF LAND USES AND HOUSING, IMPROVE THE JOBS TO HOUSING BALANCE, LOCAL COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL REDUCING TRIPS OUT ONTO THE MAJOR ROADWAYS, IN HOPES OF REDUCING SOME OF THE CONGESTION.

AGAIN, HERE'S THAT MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE THE DOTTED LINES THAT REALLY OUTLINE THE BUFFERS AND SETBACKS THAT EXIST AND REMAIN WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGE THERE. WITH THAT THAT I'M READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? MR. GREEN.

>> WOULD YOU CONSIDER THESE CHANGES YOU GAVE US MAJOR

CHANGES? >> I BELIEVE IT'S A REDUCTION IN

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INTENSITY HERE IT'S NOT IN ADDITION.

SO PERCENTAGE WISE WE'RE REDUCING A LOT HERE BUT I BELIEVE IT'S A MUCH SIMPLER APPLICATION AT THIS POINT IN TIME THE PROJECT WOULD MOVE THROUGH ANY MINOR COMMERCIAL OR COMMERCIAL PLANTS AS REQUIRED THROUGH THE COUNTY.

THE APPLICANT PROVIDING THE PAID PARKING AND WORK THROUGH THAT COMPONENT OF THE PROCESS WHETHER IT'S NON-DARK SIDE PLAN OR MINOR COMMERCIAL TO HANDLE THE REPLANTING AND MAKE SURE WE'RE MEETING ALL THESE REQUIREMENTS FOR LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERING

SETBACKS ET CETERA. >> MR. SMITH IF STAFF HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THESE -- I WOULD CONSIDER THIS A MAJOR CHANGE IF IT WAS A ZONING CHANGS ONE THING BUT A PUD IS A PUD AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TAKEN OUT WHICH IS OUT OF LINE BUT CAN YOU GIVE ME A FOLLOW UP IF THAT'S A QUESTION.

>> THROUGH THE CHAIR TO MEMBER GREEN'S QUESTION, I DID JUST REVIEW THIS AND I HAVE BEEN FLIPPING THROUGH IT FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MINUTES BUT THAT'S THE EXTENT OF MY REVIEW.

IT APPEARS THERE'S MANY NUMBER OF RED LINED PAGES ON HERE.

>> THAT BOTHERS ME IN VOTING FOR THIS TODAY.

THAT IT'S SO MUCH CHANGES. >> IT CERTAINLY IS DIFFERENT.

IT CERTAINLY ADDRESSES A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD REGARDING THIS -- THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION WHICH I WON'T GET INTO. I AGREE WITH MR. GREEN ON THAT.

IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT YOU COULD COME BACK, I KNOW WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT BUT THE CONCERN THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT NOW IF IT'S DECIDED THAT YOU MAYBE WOULD COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH A LITTLE TIME FOR STAFF TO LOOK THIS OVER.

I LIKE THAT YOU'RE ADDRESSING THE BALANCE OF THE COMPLAINT REGARDING THE CLEARING -- THEY PAY A DOUBLE FINE FOR THAT BUT THERE WAS NEVER ANY MITIGATION, NOTHING WAS EVER DONE AS THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT SO TO MAKE SURE THAT IS DONE AND THAT THERE'S PART -- NOW IT'S PHASE ONE THERE'S ONLY ONE PHASE THAT'S PART OF THE PUD AND TECHNICAL HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE LOCATION OF THE GATE AND THE GATE HAS MOVED IN THE EXTRA 32 FEET FOR STACKING AND THE PAVING WHICH YOU DID MENTION SO THOSE WERE REALLY MY CONCERNS WITH THE APPLICATION TO BEGIN

WITH. >> IF I MIGHT ANSWER THOSE DIRECTLY I THINK THOSE COMPONENTS WOULD ALL BE ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE TECHNICAL PLAN APPROVAL THROUGH MINOR COMMERCIAL OR COMM ET-CETERA TO VALIDATE THOSE COMPONENTS NOT NECESSARILY DICTATING THAT.

I THINK WE SHOULD MAYBE GET THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT AT LEAST AND ALLOW THE PUBLIC THAT'S HERE TODAY TO SPEAK AND ANSWER SOME OTHER QUESTIONS AND IF IT'S THE BOARD'S PLEASURE AT THE END WE COULD SEEK A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE, MAYBE STAFF HAS HAD TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND EVERYONE CAN GET COMFORTABLE THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT AND IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF CHANGE SO IT'S A BIG REDUCTION. THE ASK I BELIEVE IS A LOT

SIMPLER TODAY. >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHY AN APPLICANT WOULD DO THIS BUT IF AN APPLICANT CAME IN WITH THIS REFRESH AS A NEW APPLICATION BASED ON WHAT I SEE HERE, THIS WOULD BE A MINOR MODIFICATION THAT WOULD BE DECIDED BY THIS BOARD SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH VOTING ON THIS TODAY I DON'T THINK. BUT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT YOUR TIME FRAMES FOR FINISHING THE LANDSCAPE SUBMITTAL AND THE LANDSCAPE SEEMED RATHER SHORT TO ME KNOWING HOW THINGS GO IN THE DEVELOPMENT WORLD AND I'D BE CERTAINLY WILLING TO ALLOW MORE

TIME. >> THE APPLICANTS EXCITED TO GET

EVERYTHING DONE PIERCY'S READY. >> THAT'S FINE, IT'S JUST A MONTH TO GET THE DESIGN DONE AND THREE MONTHS TO GET IT

PLANNED... >> THE PLANS ARE READY NOW.

>> MR. LABANOWSKI. >> I MUST GO ALONG WITH MR. GREEN, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT STAFF HASN'T HAD TIME TO GO THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PACKAGE.

WE'RE JUST -- IT WAS JUST PUT ON IN FRONT OF US A FEW MINUTES AGO AND I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING EITHER.

SO THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. >> MR. GREEN.

>> I WILL RELAY THAT I'M NOT AGAINST IT, I'M JUST AGAINST NOT

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HAVING A STAFF REPORT COMPLETE. THAT'S THEIR PROFESSIONAL JOB AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BUT I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT DAY TO DO THIS.

I KNOW PEOPLE ARE HERE, THIS TOTALLY CHANGED, THEY'RE PROBABLY UNAWARE OF A LOT OF THE CHANGES.

I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM -- WHATEVER THE CHAIR WANTS TO DO AS FAR AS WHETHER YOU HEAR THE PUBLIC OR WHATEVER BUT THAT'S MY CONCERN. IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO MOVE ON AND VOTE FOR IT, FINE, WE CAN DO THAT.

>> I HAVE SOME COMMENTS RATHER THAN QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW BUT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MR. GREEN, MR. LABANOWSKI, MISS SPIEGEL, I SPENT CONSIDERABLE TIME REVIEWING THIS THING.

A LOT OF TIME AND TO GET THIS AMOUNT OF MATERIAL PLACED INTO THE RECORD WHILE WE ARE SITTING HERE, EVEN THOUGH I DID SPEAK TO YOU EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON, I HADN'T SEEN THE ENTIRETY OF THIS AND I THINK THE CHANGES ARE PROBABLY GOOD BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT STAFF HAS NOT HAD THE TIME TO REVIEW THIS AND WE HAVE NOT HAD THE BENEFIT OF THEIR WISDOM AND REVIEW ON THIS.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE BRIDE ISSUE RESOLVED, THE CITATION, IT'S BEEN 3.5 YEARS SINCE IT WAS FIRST ISSUED AND THREE YEARS BEFORE THERE WAS OTHER DISCUSSION AND POSTPONEMENT AND THIS THING HAS BEEN DRAGGING ON AND ON.

I KNOW THAT WAS UNDER OWNER THAT STILL OWNS IT NOW BUT HE'S PLANNING TO SELL IT FROM WHAT YOU TOLD ME.

BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT BE RESOLVED AND I THINK THE PERSON BUYING IT, THE AUTOMATIC FOLKS WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO SEE THAT RESOLVED. ALSO THAT'S JUST MY OPINION BUT I WAS CONCERNED, IT SEEMED SOME OF THE OUTDOOR WORK AND MECHANICAL WORK, I DIDN'T SEE REALLY IF THERE WAS ACTUALLY ANY ACTIVE VETERINARY CLINIC FUNCTIONING THERE BUT THAT THAT WAS BEING UNDERTAKEN IN OPEN AIR SITUATION UNDER OPEN GARAGES AND THAT MAY EXACERBATE NOISE FOR THE RESIDENTS SO WHY DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS TRUE OR I JUST COULDN'T SEE INTO THE SITE THAT I DID NOT DRIVE INTO THE SITE BUT PARKED RIGHT THERE, TOOK SOME PHOTOS BUT IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THAT OPEN AIR, ONE BUILDING TO THE RIGHT THERE THE FIRST ONE WHEN YOU COME IN SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO ADDRESS THAT. STAFF HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO ASSESS THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND WHETHER THAT CARTWHEEL BAY WOULD BE CURRENTLY A LOCAL ROAD, A COLLECTOR ROAD AND WOULD THAT BE NECESSARY GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS IN AND OUT OF THERE ESPECIALLY WITH SO MANY CLIENTS AND I DO FEEL SYMPATHY FOR THE AUTOMATIC FOLKS THAT RUN A NICE BUSINESS AND WANT TO CONTINUE THAT AND I CERTAINLY FOSTER ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND THEM BEING THERE, IF IT'S SUITABLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I HAVE MY CONCERNS ABOUT INCOMPATIBILITY WITH THIS SO STAFF HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT AND SO I'M CONCERNED -- THERE ARE MANY CONCERNS I HAVE ABOUT IT, GETTING THIS CHANGE AT THIS TIME, IT'S JUST TOUGH FOR ME TO WANT TO SAY YES

TO THIS TODAY. >> THAT'S UNDERSTOOD.

COULD WE AT LEAST GET PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY?

>> ABSOLUTELY. YOU DO HAVE A TOUGH JOB I TOLD YOU THAT, YOU TAKE SOME TOUGH ONES, YOU REALLY DO.

ALL RIGHT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENT FROM THE BOARD, WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND IT APPEARS THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM SO IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND LET US HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY FOR 3 MINUTES.

LET'S MOVE IT ALONG, COME ON. >> NOBODY WANTS TO BE THE FIRST ONE. [LAUGHTER]

>> WHEREVER YOU PREFER, SIR. >> MY NAME IS ROBERT FLYNN, I'VE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE ABOUT 2023.

AND I TAKE MY VEHICLES TO THE AUTOMATIC SHOP.

I THINK IT'S CONVENIENT, I PERSONALLY KNOW THE OWNER.

HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB AS FAR AS SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE, SINCE WE'VE BEEN THERE AND HE'S UPGRADED THE PLACE TREMENDOUSLY AND I THINK PART OF THE REASON HE CAN'T DO SOME OF THE THINGS HE NEEDS TO DO IS BECAUSE HE DOESN'T OWN THE PLACE.

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I THINK HE ALLOWS HIS WORKERS THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A LIVING SO I AM A BELIEVER IN ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND I SUPPORT HIM BEING THERE OWNING THE PL PLACE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, APPRECIATE IT.

NEXT, ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ? AFTERNOON, NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> MY NAME IS SONIA PRICE, 151 WESTERN ROAD.

IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S OFF OF CARTWHEEL BAY.

WE JUST MOVED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE MOVED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE ISOLATION OF IT.

THAT'S A VERY BUSY AREA AND WE APPRECIATE THE QUIETNESS IN THAT AREA THAT'S VERY FAR AND FEW BETWEEN FROM THAT.

THE AUTO MECHANICS PLACE THERE IS QUIET, I GIVE THEM THAT BUT PRIOR TO US FINDING OUT ABOUT THE CHANGES TODAY, I WAS TOTALLY AGAINST A STRIP ALL, PHASE ONE OR TWO OR ANY OF THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT NECESSARY IN OUR AREA, WE HAVE PLENTY OF STRIP MALLS AND WE HAVE PLENTY OF CAFES AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF SO WE DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS NECESSARY.

I WALK WITH MY FAMILY, THERE ARE LOTS OF DOG WALKS IN THAT AREA, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE VETERINARIANS, THERE'S LIKE FIVE OR SIX OF THOSE, NOT EVEN A MILE AWAY FROM WHERE WE LIVE SO I WAS TOTALLY AGAINST ALL OF THAT, 100% AGAINST ALL OF THAT.

I HAVE NOT USED THE MECHANIC RETAIL THERE BUT I'VE HEARD THAT IT'S BEEN UTILIZED BY A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND IT WAS OUT OF COMPLIANCE SO I'M GLAD YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT ABOUT GETTING THEM CERTIFIED UNDER COMPLIANCE, EVERYTHING, IF IT'S GONNA STAY THERE, IT NEEDS TO BE UNDER COMPLIANCE AND CERTIFIED THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE BUT THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I'M AGAINST ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN AUTO MECHANIC STORE BEING THERE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COME ON DOWN.

HI I'M MARIA TORRES, I LIVE AT 212 HUGUENOT LANE, IT'S ALSO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M CONCERNED FOR THE SUDDEN CHANGE THAT'S HAPPENING, IF IT'S GOING TO BE THE AUTOMATIC -- I'D LIKE TO SEE THE SALE HAPPEN BEFORE ANYTHING GETS APPROVED.

YOU MIGHT THINK IT'S A SUSPICIOUS NATURE BUT YOU JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND I'M AGAINST HAVING A VETERINARY CLINIC WITH OPEN DOG BOARDING. I DON'T WANT A STRIP MALL WITH STORES AND CAFES YOU CAN JUST GO RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER TO THE OTHER MALL, THERE'S NO NEED FOR ANY OF THAT THERE.

CARTWHEEL BAY IS A NARROW STREET, IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A DIVIDING LINE. WE BARELY MAKE IT JUST GETTING DOWN THE STREET ESPECIALLY IF SOMEONE HAS A LARGE TRUCK OR BIG CAR. IT'S JUST NOT CONDUCIVE TO HAVING MORE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA AND IF YOU WERE TO BUILD ANY OF THAT OTHER STUFF THAT HE WANTED TO BUILD, IT WILL CREATE A DIFFERENT ELEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY, ONE THAT WASN'T THERE AND UNWANTED. WE DON'T NEED EXTRA TRAFFIC, WE DON'T NEED EXTRA PEOPLE COMING DOWN.

THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD, IT'S BEEN VERY QUIET UP THERE, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THEM BEING THERE BUT I DON'T WANT ANYTHING ELSE TO BECOME PART OF THAT AREA.

THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.

WE ALSO BOUGHT IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S QUIET.

IT'S ISOLATED BY ITSELF IN THE BACK AND IT'S A NICE COMMUNITY AND WE'D LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

NONE OF US WERE NOTIFIED BECAUSE WE WERE EXACTLY MORE THAN THE 300 FEET THAT'S ACTUALLY REQUIRED BY THE COUNTY SO THAT'S A SURPRISE FOR A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING UP IN THAT AREA. AND THAT'S IT.

>> THANK YOU. BY THE WAY DID YOU SEE THE

ORANGE SIGNS POSTED OUT THERE? >> YES FINALLY THEY DID, THE LAST TIME THEY PUT THE SIGNS UP THEY WERE HIDDEN BEHIND THE BUSHES SO THEY WEREN'T REALLY VISIBLE TO MANY OF US, BUT,

YES,, I DID SEE THE SIGNS. >> I LIVE AT 122 IN SAINT JOHN'S, THAT PRESERVE AT SAINT JOHN'S WHICH IS ACCESSED ONLY BY CARTWHEEL BAY. A BIG CONCERN FOR ALL OF US, THE SAFETY AND THAT, VERY HAPPY TO HEAR AGAIN THAT WE WON'T GET

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THIS MASSIVE USE OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU KNOW NORTHWEST SAINT JOHN'S HAS BEEN IMPACTED BY A LOT OF BUILDING, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.

THE COUNTY ITSELF WILL DO A ROAD PROJECT FOR CR 210 AND CR 2209 GOING PAST WHERE WE LIVE ON 210 UP AND DOWN SAINT JOHN'S PARKWAY. HORRIBLE.

WE DON'T NEED MORE COMMERCIAL, WE HAVE 35 RESTAURANTS WITHIN 2 MILES, THREE GROCERY STORES, LIQUOR STORES, 12 HAIR SALONS, I LOOKED ALL THIS UP AND IT'S JUST WITHIN 2 MILES, HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS MORE AS YOU GO OUT. WE DON'T NEED ALL THAT.

I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY HERE.

THAT PROPERTY UP THERE THAT'S NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY AT ISSUE TODAY IN THE YELLOW, EXCEPT FOR THAT VERY TOP LITTLE WEDGE IS OWNED BY A LAND TRUST. IT'S NOT CONSERVATION AREA, IT'S ON VACANT COMMERCIAL. IT'S OWNED BY THE SLEIMAN ENTERPRISES THAT BUILT THE SHOPPING CENTER AT THE END OF CARTWHEEL ON 210 AND IT WILL BE DEVELOPED INTO A SHOPPING CENTER. EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE PREPARED THAT THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THAT LITTLE NARROW ROAD.

THAT WE HAVE TO GET IN AND OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> HELLO MY NAME IS ROSE GOMEZ, I HEAR SOME SUPPORT OF THE SUDDEN CHANGE.

I LEARN ABOUT THE BUSINESS BY GOOGLE REVIEWS WHEN I NEEDED THE SERVICE, IT GAVE ME THE CONFIDENCE.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY -- I. WENT THE LAST MONTH, ALL THEY HAVE SOME NEIGHBORS, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT KIND OF PLACE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS TOM HARMON, MY ADDRESS IS 323 HUGUENOT LANE. I HAVE ZERO ISSUES WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE, I'VE UTILIZED THEM HAVING OIL CHANGE AND SOME MINOR WORK DONE TO MY SON'S VEHICLE.

THE REASON I THINK THE MAJORITY WAS FOR THE MUCH GREATER PHASE TWO, ONE AND 21 MAX. I'VE HAD LITTLE ISSUE WITH ANY ISSUE THEY'VE DONE. I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM BE COMPLIANT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- I. UNDERSTAND THE OTHER PROPERTY WILL BE DEVELOPED DOWN THE ROAD, HOPEFULLY I'M OUT OF THERE BY THAT TIME BUT THAT SAID, I KNOW THAT MAKING MORE TRAFFIC ON THAT SIDE ROAD AS SOMEONE ALREADY POINTED OUT, A LARGE SUV OR DELIVERY TRUCK OR EVEN LUMBER TRUCK WITH SOD COMING IN THE OTHER DAY, I JUST STOPPED MY VEHICLE SO THAT IF THEY WERE GOING TO HIT ME IT WOULD BE CLEARLY THEIR FAULT BECAUSE I'M STOPPED. I WAS THAT CONCERNED.

THAT SAID, I THINK -- I. WOULD HOPE THE COUNTY WOULD USE FORESIGHT ENOUGH TO WIDEN THE ROAD TO ACCOMMODATE.

THE AREA THAT YOU SEE GOING AROUND, ON ANY GIVEN DAY AT RUSH HOUR BETWEEN THREE AND FIVE, 50 TO 60 AT LEAST CARS PER HOUR GOT THROUGH THERE BECAUSE US COMING OUT OF CARTWHEEL BAY, AROUND DINNER TIME, CAN EXPECT SOMEONE LOOKING BECAUSE THEY DON'T EXPECT ANY HOUSES UP THERE, IT SAYS DEAD END TO COME FLYING OUT WITHOUT NOT EVEN LOOKING AS THEY'RE TRYING TO AVOID THE SNARL OF TRAFFIC AT 20209 AND 210.

WE KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER PROJECT IN PLACE.

THAT SAID, I APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> , MY NAME IS MENDEL BELLAMY, I'M AT 15788 TYSON'S BLUFF ROAD IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA.

AS YOU CAN SEE, I REPRESENT BATTLE ZONE AND MYSELF.

I WAS GLAD TO HEAR YOU SAY YOU APPRECIATE ENTREPRENEURS.

THAT'S WHAT'S DRIVEN THIS NATION FOR DECADES.

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP THE ENTREPRENEUR SPIRIT GOING.

I HAVE DEALT WITH AUTOMATICS ON A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL AND ALSO ON

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A PERSONAL LEVEL. THE CHARACTER OF THE INDIVIDUALS WAY ABOVE BOARD. THE BEST I'VE EVER SEEN.

I'VE HAD MY REGIONAL MANAGER COME TO THEIR FACILITY AND HE'S FROM DENVER AND SAID MENDEL, THIS IS THE NICEST FACILITY I'VE EVER SEEN. HE'S SEEN A LOT OF THEM AND I HAVE TWO. THE CHARACTER THAT I EXPERIENCED WAS THIS. I VISIT A LOT OF SHOPS, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER 33 YEARS AND THEY HAVE PEOPLE THAT DO GREAT FOR CUSTOMERS BUT NOT THE EMPLOYEES, PEOPLE WHO GO -- DO GOOD FOR THE EMPLOYEES BUT NOT FOR THE CUSTOMERS.

THEY DO BOTH. THEY HAVE GET TOGETHERS ON FRIDAYS, SOMEONE BRING SOMETHING IN, THEY'RE TALKING, LEARNING, EDUCATING, THEIR CULTURE, AND I'VE SEEN THEM TAKE CARE OF CUSTOMERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY FAR BEYOND WHAT I HAVE EVEN IMAGINED WHERE THEY'VE GIVEN THEM A FREE JOB JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE SATISFIED BEFORE THEY WERE LEFT OUT OF IT.

SO I'M VERY MUCH FOR KEEPING THEM THERE AND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO AND I KNOW THAT THEY ARE DOING WHATEVER IT IS THAT THOSE TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS MARIE AND I LIVE AT 113 HUG HUGUENOT LANE.

WE WERE NOT INFORMED ABOUT ANY OF THESE CHANGES UNTIL PRIOR TO THE GENTLEMAN HERE WALKING UP AND SAYING THAT WAS THE FIRST WE'D HEARD, THE CURRENT LANDOWNER, SELLING THE PROPERTY TO AUTOMATICS, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS.

IT'S BEEN OPERATING ON THAT PARCEL, NOT IN COMPLIANCE.

THEY KNEW THEY WEREN'T IN COMPLIANCE AND THEY SHOULD HAVE APPLIED TO GET COMPLIANCE BEFORE TODAY COMING IN TO REQUEST FREE ZONING. THERE'S A COUPLE OF -- COUPLE OTHER ISSUES. THE AREA ALONG WHERE THEY ARE, THERE'S CONSTANTLY WHEN WE'RE OUT WALKING, WE WILL BE PICKING UP TRASH AND DEBRIS IN THAT AREA BUT A LOT OF IT IS WHEN THEY HAVE STORMS COME THROUGH, THE PLASTIC THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO ACROSS THE FENCE FALLS DOWN AND IT STAYS DOWN FOR SEVERAL DAYS, SEVERAL WEEKS WITHOUT IT BEING PUT BACK UP SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO OPERATE THEY'RE, THEY NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A BARRIER WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE THAT THEY HAVE THE CARS AND STUFF ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE BUILDING OR SEE WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE.

THE OTHER THING IS, ONE PARCEL THERE THAT'S SLATED I THINK FOR SLEIMAN LLC THAT OWNS THAT AND AS PLANNING TO DEVELOP, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT RIGHT DOWN HERE, THAT MASSIVE CONGESTION, 20209 AND 210, I'VE REACHED OUT -- LET ME SEE WHO IT WAS.

I'VE REACHED OUT TO SAINT JOHNS COUNTY AND THREE TIMES THIS WEEKEND AND HAVE NOT RECEIVED A CALL BACK ON WHAT EXACTLY THE PLANS ARE FOR FIGURING OUT HOW TO SOLVE THE TRAFFIC ISSUE.

THEY ARE ON 210 AND 22 OH NINE. THE ONLY THING I HAVE BEEN TOLD IS THE 22 OH NINE WHERE YOU CAN GET INTO THE SHOPS BOULEVARD THAT THAT ROAD ENTRANCE GOING INTO THAT PARKING LOT WILL BE BLOCKED OFF TO MAKE EXPANSION FOR THAT HYBRID ROAD TO TRY AND ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION IN THAT LITTLE AREA.

WITH THAT SAID, PEOPLE WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO EXIT THE SHOPS BOULEVARD ONTO 22 OH NINE TO MAKE A LEFT TURN ONTO 210 TO GO WHERE THEY'RE GOING. IT WILL ALL BE COMING OUT ONTO CARTWHEEL BAY AND THEN COMING OUT TO 210, GOING WHICHEVER WAY THEY'RE GOING SO THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON IN THAT AREA THAT NEEDS TO REALLY BE CONSIDERED.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YOU'RE

UP. >> MY NAME IS DAVID, I LIVE AT GALLAGHER PLACE. IT'S NOT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE MAP. I HAVE THE GOOD PLEASURE OF BEING NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. THE OWNER OF AUTOMATICS.

I GOT TO KNOW HIM ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, WE'RE CUSTOMERS THERE, TOOK MY WIFE'S CAR IN FIRST WHEN WE WERE ON SITE, THE OWNER GAVE US A TOUR OF THE FACILITY, THE EMPLOYEES THERE, SHOWED US WHAT

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THEY DO, WHERE THEY DO IT, TALK THROUGH, HOW THEY IMPROVED.

SOME OF THE SITE, I WAS BLOWN AWAY I THINK THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE SAID THAT THE CHARACTER OF THE OWNER IS JUST INCREDIBLE.

I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE CHANGE IN THE ZONING, SUPPORT OF AUTOMATICS. I THINK IF THIS BUSINESS WERE FORCED TO RELOCATE OR GO OUT OF BUSINESS OR NOT, CONTINUE THEIR OPERATIONS AT THIS SITE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE BAD FOR THE COMMUNITY, I THINK IT'S A GREAT SHOP, THEY'RE GREAT PEOPLE, WE PARTICIPATED IN THEIR TOYS FOR TOTS PROGRAM THAT GIVES FREE OIL CHANGES, DONATE A TOY AND THEY GIVE THAT AWAY SO I'VE SEEN THEIR GENEROSITY IN THE COMMUNITY, IN ADDITION TO PERSONALLY, THEIR HOUSEHOLD WILL COOK MEALS, RANDOMLY AND THEN BRING THEM OVER TO SHARE WITH OUR HOUSEHOLD SO I'VE SEEN AND EXPERIENCED THAT SO I THINK FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT, IT'S A TREMENDOUS BUSINESS. IT WAS COOL TO SEE PEOPLE UTILIZE IT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, ON ONE OF THE RESIDENTS -- UTILIZING THEM FOR FURTHER AWAY, I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY OTHERS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR SERVICES SO I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE REZONING OR CHANGE IN THE ZONING FOR THEM TO CONTINUE WITH THEIR BUSINESS OPERATIONS AND JUST EXPRESS AGAIN THAT I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE AUTO REPAIR SHOPS AS WELL, GENERALLY, ARE SOMETIMES HARDER TO TRUST.

YOU'RE ALWAYS SUSPICIOUS GOING IN, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO? WILL THEY BE HONEST? IT'S THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS AND I THINK MORE PEOPLE ARE SKEPTICAL OF IT THAN OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESSES.

EVERY TIME YOU HAVE A SHOP THAT DOES GREAT WORK, IS TRUSTWORTHY, IS RELIABLE, COMMUNITY SUPPORTS, I THINK TO LOSE A SHOP LIKE THAT, IT WOULD BE TERRIBLE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO I CAME HERE TO SAY THAT SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

MY NAME IS DAVID. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS STEVIE MINOR, I LIVE AT 248 HUGUENOT LANE IN SAINT JOHN'S IN THAT COMMUNITY, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THE CHANGES TODAY IN THIS MEETING.

ONE THING I REQUEST FROM THE BOARD IS IF PLEASE JUST WAIT UNTIL THE SALE TAKES PLACE FOR AUTOMATICS BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION. THAT'S ALL I ASK.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE, REBUTTAL FROM MR. LAHTI.

SOMEONE ELSE IS COMING UP. >> THIS IS THE NEW CONTRACT PURCHASER, I WILL LET HIM SAY A FEW WORDS, MAYBE AFTER I JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF COMMENT TO YOU GUYS.

I THINK THAT THE WATERFALL OF COMPLIANCE HERE IS THE ZONING FIRST AND THEN THE OTHER COMPONENT SO THE TRUE RECTIFICATION OR BRINGING THIS INTO COMPLIANCE IS THE APPROVAL OF THE PUD BECAUSE THIS ISN'T ALLOWABLE USE OF OR.

WE COULD GO HERE TOMORROW AND PUT A SCHOOL, WE COULD GO HERE TOMORROW AND PUT ANY NUMBER OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE O.R. THAT WOULD GENERATE A TON OF TRAFFIC WITH NO PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED. SO THE WATERFALL HERE ISN'T FIXING THE PHYSICAL COMPONENTS OF THE SITE, THE TRUE COMPLIANCE CASE HERE IS THAT THIS USE IS NOT ALLOWED IN OR.

IT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE WITH APPLICATION AND BACK AND FORTH AND NOW THE NEW OWNERSHIP HAS MOVED EXPEDITIOUSLY.

THIS CHANGE WAS MENTIONED ON THE PHONE AS TRANSPIRING IN THE PAST FEW DAYS. WE RUSHED THIS AS SOON AS THE DECISION WAS MADE. I TRULY APPRECIATE THE TONE AND TENOR OF THE PAPERS TODAY BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS DOWNRIGHT EVIL.

I HAD TO GET IN AND REFEREE BETWEEN CONTRACT OWNER AND FINGER POINTING AND AGGRESSIVE NATURE OF THE NEIGHBORS.

THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THEY DON'T WANT TO OWN THE PROPERTY ANYMORE. I DON'T THINK THAT CONDITION -- THE PURCHASE OF A PROPERTY ON APPROVAL BUT JUST KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE TONE AND TENOR OF THE NEIGHBORS IS REALLY WHAT GENERATED A LOT OF THIS AT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.

SELINA WAS THERE, STAFF WAS THERE I WAS THE ONLY WHERE TO

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REFEREE AT. SO IT WAS NOT QUORUM, THERE WAS NOT DECOR, NOT CIVILITY. YOU HEARD THE POSITIVE NATURE, REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT CHANGE.

STAFF WAS KIND OF LOOKING THROUGH THINGS, I'D LIKE YOU TO MAYBE CONSIDER VOTING BASED ON THE NATURE OF WHAT YOU HEARD TODAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND THE REDUCTION EVERYONE'S HAPPY.

TRULY THE COMPLIANCE OF THIS, BRINGING INTO COMPLIANCE WOULD BE A COMMERCIAL SIDE PLAN APPROVAL AFTER THE ZONING IS APPROVED. SO JUST LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT BEFORE HE MAKES HIS CONVERSATION.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

I AM THE PROUD OWNER OF. I APPRECIATE OUR NEIGHBORS AND THEIR CONCERNS. WE RUN AN AMAZING PLACE.

I'M VERY PROUD OF EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF OUR TEAM AND WE JUST DON'T WANT TO BE ANOTHER REPAIR SHOP OR ANOTHER PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GO. WE SERVE OUR COMMUNITY WELL, SERVE OUR CUSTOMERS, OUR TEAM AND WE ARE ONE.

SOME PEOPLE HAD MENTIONED THAT WE GIVE BACK A LOT TO THE COMMUNITY. WE HAD -- PEOPLE HAVE BROKEN DOWN ON THE STREET AND WE PICK THEM UP AND FIX THEIR CARS BECAUSE GETTING ON THE ROAD. WE RUN A TOYS FOR TOTS FOUNDATION IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER WHERE IF YOU COME IN AND DONATE A TOY WE WILL GIVE YOU A FREE OIL CHANGE INCLUDING THE OIL FILTER AND UP TO A QUART -- 8 QUARTS OF OIL. WE ARE CONTINUOUSLY INVOLVED THE MONTH OF MAY, WE WILL BE GIVING FREE OIL CHANGES AGAIN TO NURSES AND TEACHERS BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING FOR MOTHER'S DAY SO WHAT DO WE DO FOR MOTHER'S DAY? SO THAT'S WHAT WE DO. WE ARE VERY CLOSE EMPLOYEES AND OUR FOCUS ON OUR BUSINESS IS TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CLIENTS, THEY'RE NOT CUSTOMERS, THEIR CLIENTS AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT TO BE REALLY GOOD NEIGHBORS.

WE WANT TO BE YOUR NEIGHBORS, BE THERE TO SERVE YOU, AND TAKE CARE OF EVERYONE THAT'S OUT THERE.

AND YES, WE ARE BEHIND THE PROPERTY, WE'RE ALREADY ON CONTRACTS AND WE SHOULD BE CLOSING WITHIN A FEW WEEKS WHICH IS AMAZING AND IT'S A TOTAL BLESSING TO MY FAMILY AND NOT JUST TO MY FAMILY BUT ALSO TO 15 EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE AT AUTOMEDICS. I'M VERY PROUD OF EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM AND I'M PROUD THAT SOME OF THEM ARE -- HAD TROUBLES WITH THE LAW BUT THEIR MODEL CITIZENS TODAY.

WE HAVE THREE EMPLOYEES, EVER SINCE WE STARTED WORKING THERE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BUY THEIR OWN HOUSES.

WE HAVE EMPLOYEES WHO NOW ARE ALSO APPLYING FOR MORTGAGES.

WE HAVE A MEETING EVERY SINGLE MORNING.

WE PRAY AND THIS MORNING, THIS MORNING'S MEETING, WE SAID WE HAVE TO HAVE A VISION AND WE HAVE TO -- THAT VISION HAS TO BE NOT WHERE YOU ARE TODAY BUT WHERE YOU WANT TO BE TOMORROW AND WE'RE THERE TO SUPPORT OUR EMPLOYEES AND THE WAY WE CAN SUPPORT OUR EMPLOYEES IS THROUGH THE COMMUNITY AND TAKING CARE OF OUR CLIENTS. THANK YOU GUYS.

>> THANK YOU. HOW CAN WE APPRECIATE IT.

QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD MISS SPIEGEL.

>> I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION BUT I WANT TO MAKE SOMETHING -- BRING SOMETHING UP. WE'RE HERE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT GIVES STAFF UNTIL YOU'RE HEARD AT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO GO THROUGH AND PREPARE AN UPDATED STAFF REPORT.

IS THAT TRUE MR. SMITH? >> YES, MA'AM.

IF THE BOARD OR WHEN THE BOARD MAKES DECISIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WE PASS THAT INFORMATION ALONG TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

AND THE FORMALIZED STAFF REPORT. >> YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT MR. LAHTI GAVE YOU TODAY AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO AN UPDATED STAFF REPORT SO ACTUALLY THEY WOULD BE

PRESENTED -- IS THAT CORRECT? >> IF THIS AGENCY WAS TO TAKE ACTION TODAY CASSIUS. WHEN THE ITEM WENT FORWARD IT WOULD INCORPORATE THE NEW CHANGES THAT HAD BEEN PRESENTED

TODAY. >> OKAY.

I'M ALL ABOUT COMMUNITY, COMMUNICATION, FAMILY, AND I THINK THERE'S A REAL EFFORT HERE TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF THAT'S OKAY, WE WILL

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JUST SEE WHERE IT GOES. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PUD 2024 -- BASED ON NINE FINDINGS OF FACT AS LISTED IN THIS REPORT AND MOSTLY BECAUSE WE'RE JUST RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND THERE WILL BE TIME FOR STAFF TO GO THROUGH THIS BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MAKES

THE FINAL DECISION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE A SECOND BY MISS PERKINS. MR. OLSEN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO

SPEAK? >> I HAVE A QUESTION THAT CAME UP JUST NOW WITH THE MOTION. BASED ON THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN, AND BASED ON THE FACT OR THE TESTIMONY -- THE BUSINESS IS ALLOWED UNDER OUR ZONING, IT'S NOT -- I. JUST

HEARD SOMEONE SAY THAT. >> FOR CLARIFICATION THIS USE IS

NOT ALLOWED IN OPEN RULE. >> OKAY THEN I DON'T NEED TO ASK MY QUESTION. MY QUESTION WAS, IS THERE SOME WAY THAT THE PRIDE ISSUES CAN BE ADDRESSED AND THEN BUT I GUESS IT REQUIRES THE PUD IF ONLY JUST TO MAKE THE BUILDING OR BUSINESS LEGAL FOR BASED ON THE LDC. I GUESS I'VE WONDERED, HOW HAS THE BUSINESS GOTTEN -- I. MAY BE BELABORING SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY NOT RELEVANT TO THE MOTION BUT -- I. WON'T EVEN EXPECT AN ANSWER BUT I'M WONDERING HOW THIS BUSINESS COULD HAVE HAD A PERMIT TO OPERATE WITHOUT IT BEING IN ALLOWABLE ZONING DISTRICT? THAT'S MY QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW. >> IT'S PROVIDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT PAGE 20 THAT THERE'S A COMPLAINT FOR ZONING VIOLATION FOR THIS PROPERTY SINCE AUGUST FOURTH 2022.

>> THAT WAS UNRELATED TO THE PRIDE COMPLAINT.

THAT WAS A SEPARATE -- >> THAT IS THE PRIDE COMPLAINT.

>> OKAY SO. >> OPERATING AN AUTOMOBILE REPAIR SERVICE IN OPEN RULE ZONING.

>> WOULD HAVE BEEN OPERATING WITHOUT A BUSINESS LICENSE ALSO.

>> ENFORCED ZONING, SIR. >> I WILL NOT BELABOR IT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS? ALL RIGHT.

TIME TO VOTE. THAT MOTION IS DEFEATED 4-3.

SO THANK YOU. THERE COULD BE OTHER MOTIONS.

>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL A DATE

UNCERTAIN OR A SPECIFIC DATE. >> WE WERE HOPING TO TRY TO KEEP THAT SAME B.S. CC HEARING DATE SOON AS STAFF COULD HEAR IT OR GET IT BACK BEFORE THE BOARD AND IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

>> I'LL ADDRESS THAT THROUGH THE CHAIR SO MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE MAY SEVENTH, THAT ALLOWS THE APPLICANT TO KEEP THEIR BOARD OF COMMISSIONER DATE ON MAY 19TH, THE APPLICANT DID ASK ME IF WE COULD DO APRIL 16TH AND I WOULD TELL YOU THAT WE CAN BUT IT'S A BIT OF A RUSH JOB TO GET IT ON APRIL 16TH.

WE CAN DO BOTH, APRIL 16TH OR MAY SEVENTH.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE APRIL 16TH.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, VOTE TO SCREEN PLEASE. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[8. COMPAMD26-01 Comprehensive Plan Amendment Wellhead Protection, Transmittal Hearing. Since the original St. Johns County Land Development Code in 1999 and Comprehensive Plan, significant technological and regulatory advancements have been made related to wellhead protection. Based on increased density in the County and its need for future well sites, SJCUD proposes to bring the County Comp Plan and Land Development code into compliance with State law and alignment with current best practices. This is the first reading and public transmittal hearing of the proposed Comp Plan Amendment. If approved to proceed through the public hearing process, the Comp Plan Amendment will be sent to the State for recommendations. It is anticipated that the second reading of the ordinance would be scheduled for public hearing at the June 6th Board meeting.]

NEXT WE HAVE A PLAN AMENDMENT, PRESENTER IS SUPPOSED TO BE MR. LEX TAYLOR. THIS CONCERNS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO THE AMENDMENT WELLHEAD PROTECTION ORDINANCES.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, THIS IS THE FINAL ITEM FOR TODAY, WE ARE DOING A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE SOME OF OUR WELLHEAD PROTECTION LANGUAGE. THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO BRING

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THE COUNTY INTO COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.

WE'VE HAD SOME CONFUSION FROM PEOPLE COMING OF WHAT'S ALLOWED AND WHAT ISN'T. WE'VE NOTICED THAT WHAT OUR COMP PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SAYS DOESN'T ALIGN WITH WHAT STATE LAW IS. WE'VE BEEN ENFORCING STATE LAW BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT IT THAT THEY KNOW WHAT'S PROTECTED AND WHAT ISN'T SO THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. WE WILL ALSO UPDATE SOME OF THE BEST PRACTICES FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE GIVES US SOME GUIDANCE TO THAT AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FOLLOWING THAT. WE ALSO WANT TO ALIGN WITH REGULATION ROLES THAT WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND OTHER REGULATORY AGENCIES DO TO OVERSEE DRAINAGE AND WELLHEADS.

THIS IS THE AUTHORITY FOR THE RECORD.

WHAT IS A WELLHEAD? WELLHEADS THE EQUIPMENT WE USE TO DRILL DOWN AND IT SEALS AND SUPPORTS THE INTERNAL PIPING AND CONTROLS THE FLOW OF WATER AND THIS IS WHERE WE GET OUR DRINKING WATER.

THIS IS VISIBLE CAP, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

WE HAVE TWO TYPES OF WELLS AND THEY'RE DESCRIBED IN THE CODE.

OFFICIAL WELLS ARE SHALLOW, THEY PRODUCE LESS WATER AND OUR COUNTY DOES NOT USE OFFICIAL WELLS FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION.

THERE ARE SOME PRIVATE OFFICIAL WELLS BUT FOR THE MOST PART WE ARE USING FLORIDA WHICH ARE THE DEEP WELLS.

THEY HAVE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE AQUIFER AND THEY'RE PROTECTED IN DIFFERENT WAYS. OUR CURRENT ALIGNMENTS, WE HAVE A PRIMARY PROTECTION ZONE THAT'S VERY STRONG AND ONLY GOES TO 20.