[2. Land Acquisition and Management Program Conservation Board Annual Property Ranking List for Consideration for Approval by the Board of County Commissioners.]

APPRECIATE IT, LET'S GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2. >> I WAS TELL THING PHOTOGRAPHER, I WANT YOU THE KNOW US FAT BOYS CAN'T HOLD OUR STOMACH IN VERY LONG, SO

TAKE QUICKER PICTURES. ER >> RYAN MAUCH, THIS REPRESENTS THE TOP 5 RECOMMENDATION LIST FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION TODAY AND APPROVAL. WITH ME IS THE ESTEEMED NEW CHAIR OF THE LAMP BOARD, MR. FLOWERS, WHO'S SERVING HIS FIRST YEAR'S CHAIR, THREE NEW PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THIS LIST AND TWO HAVE BEEN CARRIED FROM THE PREVIOUS LIST.

ALSO TWO PROPERTIES WERE ACQUIRED BY ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN 2025 INCLUDING THE BILLY RANCH NORTHERN LOTS ON BISHOP ESTATES ROAD ALONG [INAUDIBLE] AND CREEK AND THE HAU KINS PROPERTY ALONG THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY.

I'LL NOW HAND IT OVER TO NR MR* FLOWERS TO PRESENT THE FIVE TOP LIST FOR PROPERTIES

EVALUATED THROUGHOUT 2025. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

I WANT TO SAY FIRST OF ALL THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ON THE LAMP BOARD, IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO DO THAT. I ALSO ON BEHALF OF THE LAMP BOARD WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE TREMENDOUS SUPPORT TO OUR BOARD AND LAND PRESERVATION TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I KNOW THE CITIZENS OF ST.

JOHNS COUNTY ALSO WOULD JOIN ME IN THANKING YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THAT ACTIVITY.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY A SHOUT-OUT TO HENRY DEAN, FORMER COMMISSIONER WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN RECONSTITUTING THE LAMP BOARD BACK IN 2021 AFTER MANY YEARS OF DORM MANS SI. OUR TASK IS TO ANNUALLY REVIEW PROPERTIES OFFERED BY WILLING SELLERS THAT MEET THE CRITERIA CONTAINED IN THE LAMP ORDINANCE AND THEN TO SCORE THOSE PROPERTIES AND COME UP WITH -- ACCORDING TO THE CRITERIA THAT ALSO IS IN THE LAMP ORDINANCE AND AS HAS BEEN DEVELOPED BY THE LAMP BOARD

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AND THEN RANK THE TOP FIVE PROPERTIES AND THEN PRESENT THOSE TO THIS BOARD FOR ITS CONSIDERATION AS ACQUISITION CANDIDATES FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.

AS RYAN MENTIONED, THIS YEAR 'S LIST CONTAINS THREE NEW PROPERTIES VERSUS THE 2024 LIST, TWO OF THE PROPERTIES ARE CARRY OVER AND IS WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THOSE IN MORE DETAIL IN JUST A MOMENT.

IT IS WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION TO REORDER THIS LIST, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR BOARD . YOU SELECT ULTIMATELY THE DESIRED PROPERTIES TO PURSUE ACQUISITION OF. YOU MAY DIRECT YOUR STAFF TO PURSUE SOME AND NOT ALL ON THIS LIST, TO REORDER THE LIST, AGAIN, THE FINAL DECISION-MAKING IS WITH THIS BOARD. YOUR APPROVAL OF THE LAMP BOARD'S RECOMMENDED LIST DIRECTS THE STAFF TO ORDER APPRAISALS, BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS AND INSPECTIONS OF THE PROPERTIES ON THE LIST AND THEN ULTIMATELY ONLY THOSE PROPERTIES THAT YOU SELECT WOULD BE ACQUIRED AND A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT WOULD BE BROUGHT TO YOU BEFORE THAT OCCURS. PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THE CURRENT BUDGET BALANCE WOULD NOT BE PURSUED UNLESS FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE THROUGH SOURCES THAT EXIST AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IN A A MOMENT. AND, AGAIN, ONLY THE PROPERTIES YOU IDENTIFY FOR ACQUISITION WOULD BE PURSUED. THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON THE RECOMMENDED LIST WILL REMAIN THIS UNLESS AND UNTIL THEY'RE REFRAINED OR ACQUIRED OR NO LONGER AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE, IF A SELLER NO LONGER WANT TOS SELL A PROPERTY THEY WOULD WALL OFF THE LIST.

CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLANS WILL DEVELOPED BY THE LAMP BOARD AND SUBMITTED TO YOUR BOARD ALONG WITH ANY PROPOSED PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT. THE CURRENT BALANCE IN THE LAMP ACCOUNT AS OF THE END OF FEBRUARY IS 5 MILLION 482 THOUSAND 526 DOLLARS.

THERE WAS A GENERAL FUND APPROPRIATION TO THE LAMP PROGRAM IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR OF 500 THOUSAND DOLLARS. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ALSO TRANSFERRED 1.5 MILLION FROM THE TREE BANK FUND IN JANUARY BRINGING THE TOTAL FISCAL YEAR 26 FUNDING FOR LAMP TO 2 MILLION DOLLARS.

THE TREE BANK FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR PURCHASE OF FORESTED PROPERTIES CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO QUICKLY AND GO THROUGH THE PROPERTIES NOW, I WOULD FIRST MAKE SURE I GOT THIS, THIS IS THE 2024 LIST AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, TWO OF THE PROPERTIES ON THIS LIST HAVE BEEN CARRIED OVER TO THE 2025 LIST.

I BELIEVE ONE OR MORE OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN ACQUIRED, PART OF THE REASON THEY'RE NOT ON THE 2025 LIST AND THREE NEW PROPERTIES ARE ON THE 2025 LIST. I THINK I MUST HAVE SKIPPED OVER THE 2025 LIST SOMEHOW THERE. THERE IT IS. AND I'LL BE GOING THROUGH THESE PROPERTIES INDIVIDUALLY GIVING YOU A LITTLE INFORMATION ON EACH OF THOSE AND I'M GOING TO GO QUICKLY IN RESPECT OF YOUR TIME, PLEASE STOP ME IF YOU NEED NEED ME TO, AND CERTAINLY ANSWER CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN'T ANSWER. OKAY, PROPERTY NUMBER 1 IS THE BAILEY FAMILY PROPERTY ON BISHOP ESTATES ROAD. WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS INCLUDED ON OUR 2024 LIST, IT INCLUDED THE 67 ACRE RANCH PARCEL WHICH IS THE PROPERTY NORTH -- OR SOUTH OF BISHOP ESTATES ROAD. AND ALSO TWO LOTS THAT ARE NORTH OF THE ROAD FRONTING ON GILLINGTON CREEK. THIS GIVES YOU A PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE THE AREA BELOW BISHOP ESTATES ROAD IS THE RANCH PROPERTY IT IS UP LANDS, FORESTED AREAS, AND MOSTLY RANCH LAND AND IT IS AN ACTIVE RANCH OPERATION.

FORTUNATELY THE TWO LOTS ON GILLINGTON CREEK WHICH ARE NORTH OF BISHOP ESTATES ROAD WERE ACQUIRED BY THE COUNTY THIS YEAR. THE COUNTY WAS ABLE TO OBTAIN THOSE PROPERTIES, FEE ACQUISITION AND I BELIEVE RYAN INFORMS ME THERE'S ALREADY ACTIVITY ONGOING TO MAKE IT A KAYAK LAUNCH A PASSIVE PARK AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A BUILDING THAT WILL BE A PARK OFFICE THERE AS WELL.

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THE 67 ACRE RANCH PROPERTY WAS SUBMITTED AS THE CANDIDATE FOR THE STATE'S RURAL AND FAMILY LANDS PROGRAM WHICH IS A PROGRAM THAT PLACES GENERALLY AGRICULTURAL LANDS UNDER CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

THIS PARCEL IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE LARGER UNDEVELOPED UPLAND PARCELS IN NORTHEAST ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN THE SWITZERLAND AREA, PRESERVATION OF IT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT.

THE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST HAS PARTNER WITCHED THE USDA, I'LL TRY NOT TO USE ACRONYM, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF AGO RICULTURE AND ALSO THE RESOURCE CONSERVATION SERVICE WHICH IS THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE FOR UNDER THE CALID AND REGIONAL CONSERVATION PARTNERSHIP PROGRAMS, THOSE ARE TWO FEDERAL PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BOTH IN LAND ACQUISITION FUNDING ELEMENT AND ALSO A LAND FUNDING ELEMENT, THEY ARE WORKING UNDER THOSE PROGRAMS AGAIN IN CONJUNCTION WITH FLORIDA'S RURAL AND CONSERVATION -- RURAL AND FAMILY LANDS KONS VAUTION PROGRAM TO COME UP WITH A FORMULA FOR BEING ABLE TO PLACE THIS LAND UNDER CONSERVATION EASEMENT. UNDER THESE FEDERAL PROGRAMS, THE LAND ACQUISITION ELEMENT, THE FUNDING WAS WITHDRAWN IN THE CURRENT FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR BUT THE INFORMATION THAT STAFF HAS IS THAT THAT FUNDING WILL LIKELY BE RESTORED AND SO THE LAND TRUST AND THE BAILEY FAMILY WILL CONTINUE TO PURSUE OBTAINING FUNDING UNDER THOSE PROGRAMS IN ORDER TO PLACE THIS UNDER CONSERVATION. NOW, IF THAT IS SUCCESSFUL, THAT WILL BUMP UP THE POSSIBILITY AND THE LIKELIHOOD UNDER THE STATE PROGRAM, RURAL AND FAMILY LANDS OF GETTING THE HIGH LISTING AND GETTING FUNDING, I KNOW THAT PROGRAM AS WELL. SO, IT IS OUR DESIRE TO KEEP THIS ON THE LIST AND WHILE WE'VE LISTED IT AS NUMBER ONE, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THERE MAY BE NEED FOR A SMALL LOCAL COMMITMENT OF FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY IN ORDER TO MAKE THOSE OTHER PARTS WORK.

SO, I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT ON WHO'S ON FIRST, THERE IS A LOGIC TO IT ALL AND AGAIN THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF LAND THAT IF WE CAN CAN PUT IN CONSERVATION WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY BENEFICIAL TO THE COUNTY.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE RANKED IT AS SUCH. THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY IT GIVES YOU A GENERAL FEEL OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE GROUND. OUR NEXT PARCEL, NUMBER 2 IS THE ADAM'S FAMILY PROPERTY.

IF I COULD SNAP MY FINGERS, I WOULD BREAK INTO THE ADAM'S FAMILY TELEVISION THEME, I CAN'T SNAP MY FINGERS WELL. THIS IS A 94.4 ACRE PARCEL, IT'S A CONSERVATION AREA, IT HAS BEEN MANAGED BY THE ADAMS FAMILY AS A CONSERVATION AREA SINCE 1989, THEY'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB OF DOING CONSERVATION ACTIVITIES ON THIS PROPERTY.

IT CONSISTS OF MIXED HARD WOODS, WETLANDS, OPEN WATER AND GRASS BEDS.

THIS GIVES YOU A PICTURE OF THE AREA IN WHICH IT IS LOCATED ALONG COUNTY ROAD 13, IT IS ADJACENT TO THE COUNTY'S MCC ULLOUGH CREEK CONSERVATION AREA, IT IS TO EXPAND THAT CONSERVATION AREA SIGNIFICANTLY. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WILLIAM BARTRAM SCENIC WATERWAY, THERE IS A RESIDENCE WHERE MIKE AND CAROL ADALS AND I KNOW MIKE ADAMS IS HERE TODAY, WHERE THEY LIVE ALONG WITH -- THERE IS A DETACHED BARN, THERE ARE OUTDOOR A MENITIES SUCH AS A PICNIC AREA, A FIRE CIRCLE, TRAILS AND A BOARDWALK LEADING TO THE A PIER ON THE RIVER. THE FIRE CIRCLE INCLUDES A PRIMITIVE CAMPING AREA AND IT WOULD PROVIDE AN EXCELLENT AREA FOR PASSIVE RECREATION AND EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND I WOULD TELL YOU THAT MIKE HAS BROUGHT GROUPS ON FOR CHILDREN AND OTHER GROUPS FOR EDUCATION ON THIS PROPERTY DURING THE TIME THAT THEY HAVE OWNED AND MANAGED IT.

THE PROPERTY CONTAINS A DIVERSE ARRAY OF NORTH FLORIDA

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ECOSYSTEMS, I CAN MOVER FORWARD HERE, THIS INVERSES YOU A CLOSER UP PICTURE OF IT.

THE ADAMS HAVE CONDUCTED LONG LEAF PINE AND FORESTED WET LAND RESOURCES ON THE PROPERTY AND ALL ACTIVITY THAT IS ENHANCED THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROPERTY. THE COUNTY PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS INDICATED THAT THE PROPERTY DEMONSTRATES STRONG ALIGNMENT WITH THE LAMP PROGRAM OBJECTIVES, BALANCES CONSERVATION WITH COMMUNITY RECREATION ACCESS. THE EXISTING ROADWAY INTO THE PROPERTY WOULD LIKELY NEED TO BE IMPROVED FOR PUBLIC ACCESS AND IMPROVEMENT FOR PARKING WOULD BE REQUIRED AS WELL IF IT WERE ACQUIRED AND ANY MANAGEMENT PLAN WOULD HAVE TO TAKE ACCOUNT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL SENSIBILITIES OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL. THE PROPERTY COULD POTENTIALLY BE ACQUIRED AS A FEE ACQUISITION OR CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

I WOULD TELL YOU THE LAMP BOARD WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY AND WE SAW IT AS EPITOMIZING THE TYPES OF PROPERTY THE LAMP WAS REQUIRE TODAY GO AFTER AND PRESERVE. AND THESE ARE -- THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE CONSERVATION ACTIVITIES ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

SO, MOVING ON TO PROPERTY NUMBER 3, THIS IS THE CHRISTINA DRIVE, THE SHORES PARCELS. THIS PROPERTY CONSISTS OF THREE LOTS TOTALING 2.8 ACRES OF FORESTED PROPERTY. IT IS SITUATED WITHIN THE ST. AUGUSTINE SHORES PUD AND IT IS DESIGNATED IN THE PUD AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

LET ME GIVE YOU THE REGIONAL PICTURE HERE. IT IS ADJACENT TO THE COUNTY'S CANOPY SHORES PARK AND WOULD ADD FRONTAGE ALONG SHORES BOULEVARD TO THAT PARK IF IT WERE REQUIRED. CANOPY SHORES IS A 36 ACRE PASSIVE PARK THAT WAS REQUIRED BY THE COUNTY THROUGH THE LAMP PROGRAM ALONG WITH THE FLORIDA TRUST IN 2025. THIS SHOWS YOU THE ADJACENCY TO OTHER PUBLIC OWNERSHIP AND PARKS WITHIN THE REGION. AND I BELIEVE THIS SHOWS THE CONNECTION TO THE PARK TO THE FLORIDA FOREVER BLUE WAY PROJECT AND ITS LOCATION WITHIN THAT PROJECT MAKES IT ELIGIBLE FOR STATE FUNDING JUST AS WAS DONE WITH THE ACQUISITION OF THE REST OF THE CANOPY SHORES PARCEL. THIS GIVES YOU A CLOSER UP LOOK AT THE PROPERTY ALTHOUGH THE OWNER HAS MADE APPLICATION TO INCLUDE THE PROPERTY IN THE LAMP PROGRAM IN 2025, THESE THREE LOTS ARE ALSO CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW BY THE COUNTY FOR CONVERSION TO -- FROM COMMERCIAL USE TO RESIDENTIAL USE UNDER THE PUD WITH THE INTENTION OF CREATING 9 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS SO THAT KIND OF INDICATES THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE THAT EXISTS FOR THESE LOTS AND WHY IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THEM AND INCLUDE THEM WITHIN THE PARK. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON WESTERN SIDE OF A TRIBUTARY TO THE MATANZAS RIVER, IT CONTAINS HARD WOODS, LIKE THE ADJACENT PARK, THERE ARE ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES WITHIN THE GENERAL AREA. AND THEN LAST, THIS SHOWS YOU A STREET LEVEL VIEW AT THE INTERSECTION OF CHRISTINA DRIVE AND SHORES BOULEVARD. SO, MOVING ON TO PARCEL NUMBER 4, THIS IS 10690 COUNTY ROAD NORTH.

THIS IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 13 NORTH AND COUNTY ROAD 208 IN THE PICOLATA AREA, IT INCLUDES THE HISTORIC ARNOLD HOUSE. THIS AGAIN KIND OF GIVES YOU WHERE IT SIT INS THE REGION, THE INTERSECTION OF 208 AND COUNTY ROAD 13. THIS IS A CLOSER AERIAL VIEW AND YOU SEE HERE THAT IT HAS -- THE PROPERTY HAS A SMALL AREA ALONG COUNTY ROAD 13 HERE ON THE WATER, ON THE ST. JOHNS RIVER, THE BULK OF THE PROPERTY IS EAST OF COUNTY ROAD 13 AND THE MAIN PART OF THE PRAPT IS UPLANDER WITH SOME LARGE TREES, HISTORIC RESIDENCE NEAR THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY WITH AN ADJACENT BUILDING, MORE MODERN BUILDING

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THAT IS USED AS A BARN OR WORKING BUILDING. THE ARNOLD HOUSE IS THE RESIDENCE ON THE PROPERTY WAS CONSTRUCTED SIRCA1890 AND WAS THE CENTER OF AGRICULTURAL PURSUITS BY MR. ARNOLD, THE PREVIOUS OWNER OVER THE YEARS INCLUDING CITRUS, CATTLE FARMING AND NAVAL STARS -- STORES OVER THAT LONGER PERIOD.

THE PROPERTY WAS REVIEWED BY THE BOARD, WE WOULD ENVISION THE USE OF THE PROPERTY TO FOCUS ON THE HISTORIC RESIDENCE PERHAPS AS A MUSEUM, HIGHLIGHTING THE RICH HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY AND THE RICH HISTORY OF THE PRK ICOLATA AREA WITH PASSIVE PARK-LIKE USES IN THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.

TO MAKE THE PROPERTY SUITABLE FOR PARK AND MUSEUM TYPE ACTIVITIES WOULD REQUIRE PROVISION FOR PUBLIC PARKING ON THE PROPERTY AND A DECISION ON WHAT TO DO WITH THE OUTER BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY AND A COMMITMENT TO MAINTENANCE OF THE HISTORIC [INAUDIBLE] ON PROPERTY.

SO, WRAPPING UP, THE FIFTH PROPERTY IS THE COUNTY ROAD SOUTH MCCULL LA* CREEK PROPERTY THIS PROPERTY OR PROJTS POTENTIALLY CONSISTS OF TWO PHASES, TOTALING 25.45 ACRES. PHASE 1 CONSISTS OF 17.6 ACRES AND IS LOCATED ALONG MCC ULLOUGH CREEK NORTH OF COUNTY ROAD 13 ASK JUST NORTH OF THE ADAMS PROPERTY THAT I DISCUSSED WITH YOU EARLIER.

PHASE 1 AND THIS GIVERS YOU AGAIN THE REGIONAL VIEW AND IF YOU CAN SEE WRA IT SAYS SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT IS WHAT I'M CALLING THE PHASE 1 PROPERTY THE 17 PLUS ACRES, AGAIN, IS ADD JAYS SEN TO THE SPER -- ADJACENT O THE MCCULL LA* CONSERVATION AREA, IT INCLUDES FORESTED UP LA*NDS, FORESTED WETLANDS, ADD JAYS SINT TO MCCULL LA* GREEK, COULD BE DEVELOPED AS A KAYAK LAUNCH AREA IN ADDITION TO HAVING TRAILS THAT WOULD CONNECT TO THE EXISTING MCCULL LA* CREEK CONSERVATION AREA, OUT TO THE ST. JOHNS RIVER. THIS PROPERTY WAS ON OUR LIST I BELIEVE IN 2023 AND WAS HIGHLY RANAMBLINGED BY US AND CAME OFF THE LIST BECAUSE AT SOME POINT THE OWNER INDICATED HE WAS NO LONGER INTERESTED IN SELLING. SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, COUNTY STAFF HAS SPOKEN WITH AND WORKED WITH THE OWNER WHO'S INDICATED AN INTEREST AND WILLINGNESS TO BRING THE PROPERTY BACK WITH INCLUSION OF WHAT WE'RE CALLING PHASE 2 WHICH IS PROPERTY ON THE -- I GUESS IT'S THE NORTH SIDE OF THE MCCULL LA* CREEK CONSERVATION AREA, AGAIN, THIS IS THE PHASE 2 PROPERTY THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER. IF YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT, THE PARCELS OUTLINED IN YELLOW THERE INCLUDE THING THE WATERFRONT PARCELS AND UPLAND PARCELS, THESE AGAIN ARE CONTIGUOUS WITH THE MCCULL LA* CREEK CONSERVATION AREA WOULD EXTEND THE BOUNDARIES ON THE OTHER SIDE, HERE YOU SEE BOTH PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2. AND AGAIN THIS PHASE 2 PART CONSISTS OF 17.6 ACRE, I'M SORRY, 7.75 ACRES, A PORTION OF WHICH IS ON THE WATERFRONT WOULD PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY OF PROVIDING AGAIN PERHAPS WATERFRONT ACTIVITES CONNECTED TO THESE OTHER PROPERTIES WHICH WOULD BE ALL PART OF THE MCCULL LA* CREEK CONSERVATION AREA IF ACQUIRED. THIS IS A PROPERTY WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IF WE CAN BRING THIS ALL TOGETHER AND POTENTIALLY ACQUIRE IT. SO, WITH THAT, THAT IS OUR LIST. AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO OUR BOARD, I WANT TO THANK RYAN AND HIS STAFF, THEY DO A GREAT JOB SUPPORTING OUR BOARD AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. SO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS,

I CAN ANSWER THEM. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED? >> THANK YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION FOR MR. MALL COMES OR MR. FLOWERS, THE THAT WAS AN INCREDIBLE PRESENTATION. OUR FIRST PRIORITY WHICH IS THE BAILEY PROPERTY IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART, IT'S IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, SARAH BAILEY

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IS ONE OF MY HEROES, SHE COULD TAKE A BIG BAG OF CASH BUT SHE AND HER FAMILY WANTED TO KEEP THAT IN CONSERVATION, I HAVE BEEN A HUGE FAN WITH THE BAILEY FAMILY OF WHAT THEY'RE TOYING -- TRYING TO DO WITH

THAT PROPERTY. IS THAT IN THE 8 FIGURES? >> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER, IT'S APPRAISAL-DRIVEN, I DON'T HAVE AN ACCURATE FIGURE RIGHT NOW. I KNOW THERE WAS A LIST PRICE EARLY ON WITH EVERYTHING INCLUDED AROUND 20 MILLION DOLLARS, PROBABLY SOMEWHERE AROUND 15 MILLION I WOULD ASSUME FOR THAT PARTICULAR 67 ACRE PIECE. SO, WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY THERE WOULD BE A LESS THAN FEE ACQUISITION PRESENTED THROUGH THE NORTH LAND TRUST THAT MR. FLOWERS WAS PRESENTING, USING FEDERAL OR STATE FUNDS TO ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY WITH A PROTECTED EASEMENT INSTEAD OF OUTRIGHT PURCHASING IT.

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

>> I THOUGHT THE GOVERNMENT CAN JUST -- THAT MAGIC WAND. >> RIGHT, SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. THIS IS SORT OF A DREAM COME TRUE FOR FIVE AND A HALF YEARS, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, THE GREAT WORK THE LAMP BOARD HAS DONE, BRINGS US PARCELS THAT FALL WITHIN OUR MEANS AND ARE GOING TO BE TRUE ENVIRONMENTAL GEMS, I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE ON THIS BOARD, MR. FLOWERS.

>> AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE AS THE LIAISON TO THE LAMP BOARD, THIS IS VERY DEAR TO MY HEART AND THANK YOU, EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. I AM GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO ADD ADDITIONAL FUNDS THIS YEAR, 500 THOUSAND DOLLARS WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE AMAZING PROPERTIES DOESN'T PUT A DENT IN IT. I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF MEET WITCHING THE FLORIDA LAND TRUST, IT IS CLEAR WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING FOR THIS, SO I'M HOPING IN THE FUTURE BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM AND DO WHAT WE CAN, THESE ARE AMAZING PROPERTIES WE WANT TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE. FROM SO MANY OF THE SURVEYS WE HAVE DONE ON THIS COUNTY, PRESERVATION AND CONSERVATION IS NUMBER ONE FOR SO MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS, IT IS A PRIORITY AND WE NEED TO -- LIKEWISE NEED TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION,

EXCELLENT. >> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH ,

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, IT WAS EXCELLENT.

THE IMPORTANT THING FOR ME IS THE PUBLIC CAN USE THE PROPERTY INS HIKING, KAYAKING AND THOSE LAMP LIST DOES SHOW ME THAT SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT, THANK YOU.

>> YEAH, EXCELLENT WORK FROM THE LAMP BOARD. I SO APPRECIATE YOUR WORK,

LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. ER >> GREAT, AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, PLEASE COME ON UP, IF THERE IS MORE THAN ONE, PLEASE LINE UP AS WE JUST DISCUSSED, WE HAVE A VERY FULL AGENDA TODAY, SO IF WE CAN MOVE ALONG QUICKLY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

ER >> I'M JENNY, I'LL BE BRIEF. I LOVE THIS, THE I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE HUMAN ELEMENT INVOLVED IN IT AS WELL, THAT SPARKS ME UP BECAUSE WE HAVE HISTORY AND WE HAVE CONSERVATION SO I THINK THAT'S

A GREAT PRIORITY FOR THE COUNTY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

NEXT. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, 1005 BLACKBERRY LANE. I LOVE ALL FIVE PROJECTS ON THIS LIST AND I KNOW THAT LAMP WORKED REAL HARD, I WAS HERE DURING THE EVALUATION PROCESS, THERE WERE SERIOUS QUESTIONS, SERIOUS EVALUATIONS AND I

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KNOW THEY STAND BEHIND ALL FIVE OF THESE, SO HAPPY YOU DO TOO, SO AS CHAIR OF THE WILLIAM BARTRAM SCENIC HIGHWAY, THREE OF THE PROJECTS ARE ON COUNTY ROAD 13 BUT ALSO KNOWN AS THE BARTRAM SCENIC HIGHWAY, HOW PROUD WE ALL ARE OF HAVING A FANTASTIC ROAD SYSTEM ALONG THE RIVER AND THREE OF THESE PROPERTIES HELP TO COMPLETE THE SCENIC VALUE OF THOSE HIGHWAYS AND I'M SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THOSE, SO WE WANTED TO SAY

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING, CLARK DALY, 22 BISHOP STATES ROAD REPRESENTING THE BAILEY FAMILY. FIRST I WOULD LIKE THE THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE LAMP PROGRAM THIS YEAR, I CAN'T EXPRESS MUST *F HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS, EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND ON PRESERVING LAND A DAY WILL SAVE MANY DOLLARS DOWN THE ROAD FROM NOT HAVING TO PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP THE PEOPLE -- HOUSES ARE BUILT ON THEM. SO, TO ADDRESS THE MONEY SITUATION WEBSINGER ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY OR THE STATE OR WHOEVER, HOPEFULLY WE'LL PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AND BE CREATIVE WITH OUR FINANCING AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE WILLING TO ANSWER

THEM RIGHT NOW OR LATER. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR

WILLINGNESS TO WORK, THAT'S HUGE. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING, I'M MIKE ADAMS, I LIVE AT 2425 COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH, I WAS THE NUMBER TWO PROJECT ON MR. FLOWERS' GENERAL TA, E HE DID A GREAT JOB AND I WANT TO AGAIN ECHO WHAT'S BEEN SAID HERE ALREADY, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL TAKING THIS INTO VERY HIGH CONSIDERATION, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, MR. WHITEHURST, YOU'RE A MAN OF VISION, YOU'VE SEEN WHAT'S GONE ON UP THERE IN THE FRUIT COVE AREA AND IT'S COMING DOWN INTO THE COUNTY, SO ANY LAND THAT CAN BE PRESERVED IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND CONSERVED.

AND OF COURSE YOUR PUBLIC ACCESS ISSUE IS REALLY IMPORTANT AS WELL AND I BELIEVE MOST OF THESE PROPERTIES DEMONSTRATED THAT. SO, I WANT TO GO OUT ON RECORD STAINING THAT I SUPPORT ALL FIVE ESPECIALLY MY OWN, THE ADAMS PROPERTY THERE WHICH IS KIND OF CONTIGUOUS TO THAT GAPHIC THERE THAT YOU SEE.

IT WAS WONDERFUL MAP WORK BY ADAM ON THIS PROPERTY. I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND DO GREAT THINGS. THE MONEY ISSUE, REMEMBER THE FINANCING FOR THIS LAND ACQUISITION, WHETHER IT'S CONSERVATION EASEMENTS OR FULL OUT FEE SIMPLE CAN BE CREATIVE AND INNOVATIVE, THERE CAN BE PARTNERSHIPS THAT CAN BE FORMED, IT DOESN'T ALL HAVE TO BE ST. JOHNS COUNTY PURCHASING THESE PROPERTIES OR PROPERTIES INTO THE FUTURE, IT CAN BE A PARTNERSHIP THING AND IT'S VERY CREATIVE SO YOU GET TO USE YOUR COMMUNICATION SKILLS

IN THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

>> IS COMMISSIONER DANCE STILL HERE?

SORRY, INSIDE JOKE. WE'LL GET SOME FLAGLER MONEY. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> YES, IF YOU WOULD JUST SET THERE ON THE CENTER PODIUM, WE'LL PUT IT ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU.

>> IT'S IN A DIGITAL FORMAT. >> DO WE HAVE THAT? >> I CAN DO THAT.

>> THEY HAVE IT, GREAT. >> THAT'S BETTER. >> THERE WE EGO.

>> MY NAME IS STEVE GLIDEN, I LIVE IN THE ARMSTRONG ARNOLD HOUSE AT 1069 OAK COUNTY ROAD 13 NORTH ON THE WILLIAM BARTRAM HIGHWAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. CINDY AND I LIVE IN PICOLATA, WE WOULD LIKE THIS TO CHANGE, PICOLATA IS AT A NARROW PART OF THE ST. JOHNS RIVER WHERE NATIVE AMERICANS ONCE CROSSED X EXTENSIVE RESEARCH IN PICK LAT TA IS COLLECTING DRUBS FROM [INAUDIBLE] TO SPAIN.

THEY WERE THE THREE OUT POSTS THERE THAT PROTECTED ST. AUGUSTINE'S FLANK, THE UNITED STATES BUILT THE SECOND OUT POST IN 1835, THE UNION ARMY BUILT THE THIRD OUT POST

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DURING THE CIVIL WAR. IT WAS SURPRISING TO LEARN ABOUT THE LUMINARIES WHO LANDED IN PICOLATA, ARTIST JOHN AUDUBON, MAJOR GENERAL WIND FIELD SCOTT, CAL CUE CHI WAS THE U.S. ARMY'S MOST RESPECTED WORK CHIEF. THE FIRST COMMAND WAS IN PICOLATA, CONFEDERATE JJ DICKINSON, THE WORLD FAMOUS COMPOSURE LANDED IN 1884, HIS STAY INFLUENCED SEVERAL OF HIS LATER WORKS, HIS HOUSE WAS DEEMED TO IMPORTANT THEY MOVED IT TO THE JRK U CAMPUS WHERE IT SITS TODAY. PICOLATA BECAME THE MAIN INTEREST OF AUGUST STAOEN, THAT BY THE WAY IS MY FRONT YARD. CINDY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR HOUSE WITCHING A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT BRINGS PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER WITH EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM ASKS CULTURAL EVENTS.

WE ARE EXCITE ABOUT THE DAY STUDENTS CAN LEARN ABOUT PICOLATA IN PICK LAT TA, WE

HOPE YOU FEEL THE SAME, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, I'M DEAN CAMPBELL, 1613 [INAUDIBLE] IN ST. JOHNS, NROR ABASING I'M A CITIZEN OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE BARTRAM TRAIL SOCIETY, IT IS AN ORGANIZATION COMMITTED TO HELPING TO DEVELOP THE BAR TRA*M TRAIL THROUGHOUT NORTHEAST FLORIDA AND IT'S AN EFFORT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE LAST 10 OR 12 YEARS AND WORKING IN EACH COUNTY ALONG THE ST. JOHNS RIVER AND THAT WILLIAM BASH TRA*M VISITED DURING HIS EXPLORATIONS IN FLORIDA.

I CAN'T EXPRESS ENOUGH HOW EXCITED I AM ABOUT ALL OF THESE PROPOSED ACQUISITIONSFINGER ESPECIALLY THOSE ALONG THE BAR TRA*M TRAIL SCENIC HIGHWAY.

WE ARE WORKING REAL HARD, THAT IS THE SOCIETY IS WORKING REAL HARD TO DEVELOP THE BAR TRA*M TRAIL IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO MAKE IT SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED IN PUT NA*M COUNTY, THE RESOURCES THAT THE SOCIETY HAS BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP FOR VISITORS WOULD WANT TO PURSUE AND FOLLOW THE BAR TRA*M TRAIL IN PUTNAN COUNTY WEBSINGER EAR TRYING TO DEVELOP THE SAME TRAIL SYSTEM IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, IN PARTICULAR, THIS PARCEL, THE ADAMS PARCEL AND THE PICOLATA PARCEL ALL SERVE AS POTENTIAL BARTRAM SITES ALONG THE BARTRAM TRAIL BY UNIFYING THE KAYAK AND PADDLING TRAIL AROUND THE ST. JOHNS RIVER FRONTING ST. JOHNS COUNTY, SO I WANT TO VOICE OUR SOCIETY'S SUPPORT FOR THESE ACQUISITIONS AND TO COMMEND THE LAMP BOARD. IT WAS FASCINATING TO WATCH THE REVIEW PROCESS THEY WENT THROUGH, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED ASK DELIGHTED TO HEAR THE COUNTY COMMISSION APPRECIATES THEM AS MUCH AS I, A CITIZEN, OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY DO, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS

AT THIS TIME? GOOD MORNING. >> I'M HOBBLING UP, I HAD KNEE SURGERY, HENRY, I KNOW FOR A FACT I HAVE TALKED TO EACH OF YOU OVER THE TIME THAT ALL OF YOU ARE STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE LAMP PROGRAM AND I KNOW THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY ARE APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR SUPPORT BECAUSE AS COMMISSIONER TAYLOR MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING WHEN THE THOUSAND FRIENDS DID THEIR WORK FOR THE COMP PLAN AND DID SURVEYS, THE NUMBER ONE WAS CONSERVATION OF NATURAL AREAS IN THIS COUNTY. EVERYONE IS PRETTY MUCH FOR HAT, SO I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK WAYNE FLOWERS, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, AS A SIDE BAR COMMENT, FOR TWO YEARS, WAYNE AND I WORKED TOGETHER, HE'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYER INS THE STATE AND TO HAVE HIM AS CHAIRING THE LAMP COMMITTEE AND HAVE OTHER MEMBERS LIKE JD MILLER AND OTHERS THAT HAVE SPENT A CAREER IN CONSERVATION ISSUES, THIS COUNTY IS WELL SERVED. SO I JUST WANTED TO PASS THAT AS COMMENTS ALONG AND THANK

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EVERYONE .AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT, IT'S GREAT, THANKS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? SEINING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> BACK TO THE BOARD? >> BACK TO THE BORE, I WOULD

LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU REVENGER FOR THE COMMENTS. I HAVE TO AGREE AS A LIAISON TO THE LAMP BOARD, I HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR EVERYBODY ON THAT BOARD AND I KNOW THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT SO MANY DIFFERENT PROPERTIES AND I SUPPORT THE ALL FIVE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME ARE DEFINITELY OUT OF WHAT WE CAN AFFORD RIGHT NOW BUT I DO THINK WE CAN BE CREATIVE AND I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT OUR OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, SO BASED ON THAT KNOWING WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FULLY FUND REALLY ANY PROJECT, I RECOMMEND THAT WE KEEP ALL FIVE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER BOESHD MEMBERS FEEL, BUT I HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR THE BOARD AND THE FACT THEY CAME FORWARD WITH ALL FIVE PROPERTIES, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE TAKING ONE OF

THEM OFF. >> COMMISSIONER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

ER >> WITHOUT HENRY DEAN, WE DON'T HAVE THIS AGENDA ITEM.

HENRY DEAN, IF YOU HAVE A FAN OF CONSERVATIONFINGER HENRY DEAN HAS HAND OF THE CONSERVATION OF ABOUT A MILLION ACRES THROUGH THE STATE OF HIS CAREER, SO SHAKE HIS HAND AND THANK HIM FOR THE CONSERVATION THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THROUGHOUT NEARLY 40 YEARS OF SERVICE BUT ALSO WITHOUT HENRY DEAN'S LEADERSHIP WEBSINGER DO NOT HAVE A LAMP COMMITTEE OR LAMP FUNDING. I AGREE WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, WE NEED TO KEEP ALL FIVE ON THE LIST AFTER HEARING CLARK BAILEY'S COMMENTS. I WANTED TO ASK MR. MAUCH IF HE'S STILL AVAILABLE, THE FLORIDA FUND WHICH IS A STATE CONSERVATION PROGRAM WAS FUNDED TO THE TUNE OF ROUGHLY 100 MILLION DOLLARS, I WANT TO SEE US GET MORE AGGRESSIVE IN PURR SAOUG SOME OF THOSE FUNDS SO THE BAILEY PROPERTY IS MORE FINANCIALLY AVAILABLE, THERE'S ALSO THE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST AND I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US WHEN WE GO TO TALLAHASSEE THAT CONSERVATION IS COMING OUT OF OUR MOUTH INTO EVERY ROOM WE STEP INTO. I KNOW IT IS A PRIORITY BUT MR. MA*UFRP, ARE WE PURSUING OUR FRIENDS FOR THE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST ?FRJT ABSOLUTELY WEBSINGER WILL KEEP THESE COMMUNE CASES GOING AND AS APPLICATION CYCLES COME UP, WE WILL BE SUBMITTING APPLICATIONS AS NEEDED.

ER >> I WANT TO SEE US -- 2-5 ARE VERY MUCH WITHIN REACH BUT WE HAVE O GET THE BAILEY PROPERTY DONE, THEY'VE BEEN WAITING TOO LONG, IT'S TOO CRITICAL OF A PIECE OF LAND, I WOULD SUPPORT KEEPING ALL FIVE ON THE LIST.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> I AGREE, I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC AND I WANTED TO POINT OUT ONE QUICK THING ABOUT THE GLIDDEN PROPERTY I KNOW IF YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE

MUSEUM IF JAX >> CKSONVILLE, IT REMIND ME OF THAT, I CAN SEE A PUBLIC PRIVATE ARTNERSHIP FOR THAT MUSEUM, JUST A THOUGHT, I LOVE THE TOP 5, I THINK IT'S GREAT AND THANK YOU.

, THANKS FOR EVERYTHING, YOU DWIES. ER

>> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >> VERY WELL DONE, TO THE LAMP BOARD, I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY, I THINK WE KEEP ALL FIVE ON THE LIST BUT I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO SEE SOME ACTION, SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD

ON 2-5. >> I WANT -- I AGREE, I COULDN'T BE MORE EXCITED AND I WOULD MOVE FOR A MOTION, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR? RJT THANK YOU, MOTION TO APPROVE THE LAND CONSERVATION BOARD RANKING LIST, FINDING IT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAMP ORDER

NAN AND MOVER FORWARD WITH COUNTY ACQUISITION. >> SECOND.

ER >> I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND. LET'S GO TO THE VOTING BOOTH.

>> OKAY, THAT PASSES 5-0, GREAT JOB, EVERYONE. I THINK A ROUND OF APPLAUSE IS

[3. Public Hearing * REZ 2025-16 SR 207/Wildwood.]

AGENDA ITEM 3 WHICH IS QUASI-JUDICIAL, WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, I HAVE E-MAILS FROM ANY RESIDENTS OR STAFF AND NO

RECORD OF ANY MEETINGS. ER >> NO MEETINGS FROM RESIDENTS

OR STAFF AND NO E-MAILS. >> OKAY, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>> NO RECORD OF ANY E-MAILS, PHONE CALL OR MEETINGS. >> AND COMMISSIONER --

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>> NO RECORD OF ANY E-MAILS AND ALSO NO MEETINGS. >> I HAD MET WITH THE APPLICANT IN THE OFFICE THE OTHER DAY, SO WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS, SO I WOULD DIVULGE THAT, JAMES AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS, SO

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. >> THANK YOU, JAMES WHITE HO*UTS, ST. JOHNS LAW GROUP HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT FOR THIS REZONING 2025-16, A REQUEST FOR REZONE FOR THIS PARCEL. THIS IS LOCATED AT WILDWOOD AND 207 AS AL OF YOU KNOW THIS AREA WELL, THERE IS A 7-ELEVEN WE AE PROVER THAT'S ON THE EDGE OF THIS INTERSECTION AS PART OF A PUD RAISED COLLISION CENTER AND THEN THERE'S AN EXCELLENT STATION HERE THAT USED TO BE A CIRCLE K. THIS IS THE ZONING OF THE AREA, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 4.88 ACRES INSIDE, CURRENTLY UNAPPROVED. THERE'S THE AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SHOP, THE GAS STATION ACROSS THE STREET AS WELL AS A 7-ELEVEN, ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THE GAS STATION IS, THE AXON IS COMMERCIAL INTENSE TIF, INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE FOR THE BOAT AND RV STORAGE. GEP, HERE'S YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THIS COME FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT. THIS 207 ROADWAY IS ALL WITHIN THAT MIXED USE HERE WE ARE IN THE SMACK DAB MUDDLE OF IT. THE ZONING I JUST SHOWED YOU THAT SURROUNDS IT, I SHOWED YOU THIS, THIS IS AN EXISTING MIXED USE AREA WITH COMMERCIAL INTENSEIVEIVE USES AND A PUD AND INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE.

IT'S A REQUEST TO REZONE THIS LAND TO 1.48 ACRES FROM OPEN RURAL TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL, SITE PLAN ILLUSTRATES 10 THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL BUILDING AS THE INTENDED USE FOR THIS PROPERTY. WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO GO THROUGH DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND GONE THROUGH A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND HOW THIS SITE'S GOING TO SET UP. THE ESTABLISHED MIXED USE INTERSECTION ALREADY HAS APPROVED EXISTING AXON COMMERCIAL STORE AND FWAS STATION AND AN APPROVED EXISTING 7-11 ON THE OTHER CORNER WHICH IS ADJACENT.

THIS PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORN R OF THAT SAME MIXED COMMERCIAL INTERSECTION, THE REQUEST IS MERELY SOUGHT TO ALLOW THIS COMMERCIAL GENERAL USE ON THAT SAME INTERSECTION THAT CAN OBVIOUSLY MEET ALL THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS FOR SUCH COMMERCIAL ENVIRONMENT UNDER OUR COMP PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND WE'VE ALREADY GONE IN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW.

HERE ARE SOME PICTURES FROM THE INTERSECTION, THIS IS LOOKING NORTH TOWARDS THE 7-11, HERE'S GAS STATION, THIS IS 207 OUT HERE.

THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON 207, HERE YOU CAN SEE THE AXON STATION, THIS IS THE PROPERTY HERE, THE 7-11 ACROSS THE WAY, THIS IS LOOKING -- THIS IS ALSO LOOKING WEST HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE 7-11, THIS IS IN THE WESTBOUND LANES, FROM THE PROPERTY LOOKING FROM WILDWOOD TO WHERE THE CIRCLE K IS.

THE REZONING PUTS THIS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT.

THE CONCEPT SITE PLANNING SHOWS THE APPLICANT CAN COMPLY WITH ALL THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS, PARKING, ACCESS, STORMWATER, RETENTION ACCESS ON THIS PROPERTY. HERE IS BETTER LOOK AT HOW THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO DEVELOP WITH THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL USE.

THIS MEETS AND EXCEEDS THE REQUIREMENTS, GOALS, OBJECT TIER AND IS POLICIES OF OUR GENERAL PLAN, THAT'S FROM A192 ROM OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS HAS BEEN ROUTED TO ALL THE COUNTY DEPARTMENTS, THERE HAS BEEN NO OVERALL COMMENTS, THIS IS FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION OVERALL, THE PROPOSED REZONING SEEMS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SIMILARLY ZONED PROPERTIES, THIS MEANS THE CG ZONING STEIN AND IS SUBJECT FOR THE SUBJECT'S LAND USE DESIGNATION OF MIXED USE. THIS WAS AT YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD ON OCTOBER 25, IT RECEIVED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.

WE'VE SENT THIS OUT AND THERE'S NO CORRESPONDENCE OR RESPONSE TO ANY OF THE NOTICES THAT WERE SENT OUT, STAFF HAS PROVIDED FOR FINDING FACT ON

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ONE RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL, THIS DOES MEET AND IS REASONABLE WITH YOUR COUNTY SDIG DESIGNATED MIXED USE DISTRICT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ANYTHING FROM THE BOARD? IF NOT, WE'LL GO THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AT THIS TIME WE'LL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUB LIC COMMENT. >> OKAY, BACK TO THE BOARD.

MOTION TO ENACT 2026-APPROVING REZONING 2025-16 WITH FOUR

FIND OFSING FACT PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

ER. ER WE HAVE A SECOND. LET GO TO THE POLLS.

OKAY, CONGRATULATIONS, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, THIS IS

[4. Public Hearing * MAJMOD 2025-10 WBL End Parcels.]

ALSO A QUASI-JUDICIAL. COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, I HAVE A RECORD OF ALMOST 30 E-MAILS AND NO MEETINGS.

>> OKAY, COMMISSIONER -- >> I HAVE A LOT MORE THAN 28 E-MAILS, A LOT PRO BUT SOME CON, MEETING WITH JAMES WHITEHOUSE, MEETING WITH JAMES

TUT TO*N, GUY RUSH AND STAFF. >> THANK YOU SO MUMP, COMMISSIONER WHITEHOUSE?

>> I HAVE SEVERAL DOZEN E-MAILS, FOR AND AGAINST, I LAD A MEETING WITH MR. WHITEHOUSE WHO'S THE APPLICANT, I ALSO MET WITH MR.

TUTTEN AND MR. RASH, THEY ARE OPPOSED. >> I RECEIVED MANY, MANY

E-MAILS, WELL OVER 40, 50, MEETING WITH THE SAME. >> THANK YOU, I ALSO HAVE -- THIS IS 30 PLUS BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT DOES IT JUSTICE, MEETING WITH JAMES WHITEHOUSE, AND THE REST, SO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, MR. WHITEHOUSE?

>> JAMES WHITEHOUSE, ST. JOHNS LAW GROUP, ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

I'M EXCITED TO BE BEFORE YOU ON THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ALMOST TWO YEARS, THIS IS THE OLD PIRATES LANDING PUD, IT'S ALSO KNOWN AS THE -- NOW IT'S THE SOUTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH CLUB, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE TWO END PARCELS ON IT.

AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS LOCATED ALONG COASTAL HIGHWAY AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE TWO END PARCELS ON THIS PARTICULAR PUD WHICH HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 1985, IT'S ONE OF THE PUD'S THAT HAS RECEIVED MOST ADJUSTMENTS AND MODIFICATIONS AND CHANGES TO IT OVER THE YEARS IN THE LAST 40 YEARS.

WE'RE BACK BEFORE YOU TO DEAL WITH THESE TWO END PARCELS WHICH AGAIN ARE LOCATED WITHIN THAT PUD AND I'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE IT'S VERY CONVOLUTED AND THAT'S WHY IT'S TAKEN US SO LONG TO GET WITH THE COUNTY AND GET A RECOMMENDATION FORWARD FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL. THIS SHOWS HOW THE PUD IS BROILING DOWN IN OWNERSHIP ITSELF, HERE YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT ENTITIES IN HERE, YOU SEE THE CONDOMINIUMS WHICH ARE THE OCEAN GRAND ON THE WEST SIDE OF A1A, YOU SEE THE BEACH CLUB IN THE MIDDLE WHICH IS IN BLUE AND THEN YOU SEE THE OCEAN VILLA AOS CONDOS WHICH IS A DIFFERENT ENTITY ON THE BEACH SIDE AS WELL, THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE TWO END PARCELS ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH ON THE BEACH SIDE, YOU SEE ALSO JEA HAS SOME PROPERTY ALONG THIS STRIP WITHIN THIS PUD ITSELF. THE MAJORITY OF THE LAND IN THE PUD IS DIVIDED BETWEEN TO DIFFERENT CONDOS OUTLINED -- THE SERENATA BEACH IS IN PURPLE, THE OCEAN GRAND IS OUTLINED IN PURPLE, THE SERENATA BEACH IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW. AS I SAID, THE JEA PROPERTY MY PARTICULAR CLIENT ARES THE OWNERS OF THESE TWO PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH ON THE ENDS. THEY ARE NOT A DEVELOPER, THEY ARE A LENDING ORGANIZATION THAT ACQUIRED THESE PROPERTIES AS PART OF A BANKRUPTCY WHEN THE SERENATA BEACH CLUB IMPLODED AND IT HAD TO BE DIVIDED BY A BANKRUPTCY COURT, THESE WERE TWO PROPERTIES ALLOCATED TO THEM AS CREDITORS AS PART OF THAT BANKRUPTCY FINDING AND THIS APPLICATION IS TO TALK ABOUT THE PUD TO ATTEMPT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF REASONABLE AND APPROPRIATE YOUTH USE OF THOSE PROPERTIES WHILE ALSO GRANTING THE LAND SOME PROPERTY FOR ACCESS. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU WITH THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION BUT I'M ALSO EXCITED YOU HEARD FROM YOUR

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COASTAL INFRASTRUCTURE REPORT TODAY, HOW IRONIC THAT CAME TODAY AS WELL, COINCIDENTAL I SUPPOSE, BUT THEY TALKED TO YOU ABOUT ACCESS TO THE BEACH AND THIS LAND OWN FRER THE BEGINNING HAS WORKED WITH THE COUNTY TO TRY TO FIND SOME ACCESS AND YOU'LL SEE THIS PARTICULAR LANDOWNER HAS PROPOSED BENEVOLENTLY TO GIVE THE COUNTY SEVERAL THOUSAND OF DOLLARS ON THE NORTH END WHICH WILL HELP IMMENSELY WITH THE FUNDS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN PROVIDE AS YOU HEARD EARLIER. AGAIN, THIS PARTICULAR OWNER IS NOT A DEVELOPER, THEY ARE A LENDING ORGANIZATION WHO ACQUIRED THIS PROPERTY AND THEN THEY CAME TO ME AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT, I MET WITH COUNTY FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS TRYING TOG WORK OUT A A WAY TO HAVE SOME USE FOR THESE END PIECES AND GIVE COUNTY SOME ACCESS. AGAIN, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A MODIFICATION TO THIS PUD TO GRANT A A PORTION OF THAT LAND TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR THE PROPOSED BEACH ACCESS AUTHORITY AND TO ALLOW FOR TWO SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS THAT ARE LOCATED TO OTHER HOUSES ALONG THIS STRIP. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO GRANT A PORG OF THE ONE AND A HALF ACRE OF THE NORTH PARCEL TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR THE PROPOSED BEACH ACCESS FACILITY SATISFYING SOME PREVIOUS REQUIREMENTS IN THE PUD TO ALLOW FOR ACCESS TO THE BEACH ITSELF, BOTH OF WHICH FURTHER THE GOALS, OBJECT TIER AND IS POLICIES OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS PUD HAS BEEN KNOWN BY MANY NAMES OVER THE YEARS, OVER 40 YEARS NOW SINCE 1985 APPROVAL AS THE PIRATES LANDING PUD.

THIS MODIFICATION IS TO REQUEST THE COMPATIBLE SING M L FAMILY UNIT ON EACH OF THE END PARCEL WHICH IS ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS I ALONG THIS STRETCH OF A1A AND GIVE ADDITIONAL LANDS FOR ADD JAYS SANT PARKING ALL WHICH WORKS TO FURTHER THE GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THEY ARE NOT DEVELOPERS, THEY ARE A LENIN ORGANIZATION WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE COUNTY SOME LAND WHICH WILL ALSO HELP WITH GRANT FUNDING ITSELF AND TO HAVE TWO COMPATIBLE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON EACH PART OF THIS PROPERTY THEY HAVE ACQUIRED.

SINCE THE PUD HAS BEEN OUT FOR MANY YEARS, THIS INTENT WILL NOT COME TO FRUITION UNLESS THIS REASONABLE MODIFICATION IS ALLOWED.

THESE LENDERS, CURRENT OWNERS OF THE NORTH AND SOUTHEAST PARCELS HAVE ACQUIRED THIS LAND WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE THIS LAND TO THE COUNTY FOR THAT PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS.

SINCE THE PUD HAS BUILT OUT FOR MANY YEARS, THERE'S NO WAY TO MOVE BACK FOR THIS GRANTING OF THIS LAND UNLESS THIS MODIFICATION AND THIS WILLING LANDOWNER WILL APPROPRIATELY DONATE THIS LAND TO THE COUNTY AS PART OF THE PUD. HAD MODIFICATION IS COMPATIBLE. YOUR STAFF HAS REVIEWED IT, THEY FOUND IT'S COMPATIBLE.

AS I SAID, YOU CAN SEE FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT THE WAY THIS IS LAID OUT, WE HAVE PROVIDED A LOT MORE DETAIL AS TO HOW THIS WILL TRANSPIRE, THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE TWO YEARS WE'VE BEEN WORK WITCHING THE COUNTY STAFF, WE WANTED TO SHOW THIS WAS APPROPRIATE, WE HAD OUR ENGINEERS LOOK AT IT AND WE'VE SHOWN YOU CAN PUT A COMPATIBLE RESIDENCE ON THE NORTH END AS WELL AS FIT COUNTY PARKING AND FACILITIES. AGAIN, THIS IS THE NORTHERN PARCEL, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE IS, IT FITS WITHIN THAT ITSELF, YOU CAN SHOW A HAND DRAWN PICTURE, I SHOWED YOU THE MORE DETAILED PICTURE BUT THIS IS HOW IT WILL FIT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ENGINEERING ITSELF, IT FITS AND THERE IT IS AGAIN.

NOW WE CAN SKIP TO THE SOUTHERN PARCEL, IT IS A LOT MORE CONSTRAINED, IT'S A VERY SKINNY PARCEL, THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION LINE, THE WAY A1A HAS BEEN LAID OUT WAY BACK FROM THE TIME WHEN I WAS A CHILD GOING UP AND DOWN A1A HERE WHEN THE ROAD WAS MOVED AND ALLOWED TO HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT IN 1985, THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL BECAME CONSTRAINED AND THEREFORE THAT'S WHEN I GO FORWARD TALKING ABOUT THIS, YOU'LL SEE WHY THERE'S SOME CONSTRAINTS.

IT CAME UP AT YOUR PZA DURING THIS BECAUSE WHEN WE GOT HERE FOR THE PZA, THERE WAS A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO COME AND SPEAK, THE FACT THAT WHEN I WALKED IN THE DOOR AND HEARD SOME OF THE COMMENTS ONE WEEK BEFORE THE PZA AND SAW SOME OF THE E-MAILS YOU GUYS GOT, IT APPEARED THAT

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NOBODY WANTED THIS. THAT'S WHAT IT APPEARS. NOW WHEN I WALK INTO THE PZA AND THE PEOPLE STARTED SPEAKING, IT WAS OVER 75-85% PEOPLE WANTED IT BECAUSE THEY'RE FROM THE OCEAN GRAND CONDOMINIUMS THAT WERE THERE ACROSS THE STREET.

THERE WERE ALSO PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD WHO DO HAVE ACCESS AND THEY WERE AGAINST IT AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS WERE BEFUDDLING, SOME PEOPLE WERE LIKE WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO OUR PRIVATE BEACH, THIS IS A PUBLIC BEACH AND THEY SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACCESS THIS, THIS OWNER IS PREPARED TO DONATE SOME LAND. THE SOUTHERN PARCEL IS CONSTRAINED. WE HAD OUR ENGINEERS LOOK AT THIS FROM THE BEGINNING TOO, WE WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING FROM THE BEGINNING BEFORE ANYBODY ASKED FOR IT TO DONATE SOME LAND FOR ACCESS O THE BEACH ON THE SOUTHERN END AS WELL. AT THE TIME WE DIDN'T KNOW AND WE WEREN'T ADVISED THESE TWO PARTICULAR PROPERTY ARES IN WOULD DIFFERENT ZONES, YOU HEARD THAT FROM YOUR COASTAL INFRASTRUCTURE REPORT EARLIER. THE NORTHERN PIECE, THE COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF LAND WOULD HAVE SATISFIED THE REQUIREMENT AND YOU WOULD GET YOUR FUND, SINCE THIS IS IN THE SOUTHERN END, SINCE PZA, THAT THE COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO GET AS MUCH LAND AS THEY COULD GET, THEY CAN GET MORE FUNDS FROM THE FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENTS AND IN THAT REVIEW IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND I'LL LLUDE BACK TO WHEN WE WERE AT PZA, YOU CAN SEE FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT, WE RECEIVED A EWE -- UNANIMOUS FOR APPROVAL FOR THIS PROPOSAL, NOT FROM ANYTHING FROM THE SOUTH BUT FOR THIS PROPOSAL. AS PART OF YOUR COMMENTS, THERE WAS COMMENTARY FROM A FEW MEMBERS, IF THERE'S ANY WAY YOU CAN FIND SOME LAND TO GIVE THE COUNTY TO ACCESS THE BEACH ON THE SOUTHERN END, THAT WOULD HELP US.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE A 30 FOOT STRIP WHERE THERE COULD BE SOME ACCESS, ANY AMOUNT OF ACCESS GIVES YOU ADDITIONAL FUNDS.

IT DEPENDS IF THERE'S MORE ACCESS, THEN YOU CAN GET MORE FUNDS, SO AFTER WE LEFT PZA WITH THAT UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PROPOSAL, WE LOOKED AT IT TO TRY TO FIND THE COUNTY THAT 30 FEET OF STRIP OF LAND FOR ACCESS, WE FOUND THAT AND I TOLD THE PZA MEMBERS WITH MY WORD THAT WE WOULD FIND A WAY TO GIVE THEM SOME LAND ON THE SOUTHERN END SO THAT WOULD HELP THE COUNTY ITSELF.

SO, WE'VE DONE THAT AND WE FOUND THAT BUT I WANT TO GO FURTHER INTO THAT BECAUSE I'VE HEARD SINCE THEN THAT THE COUNTY MAY NEED SOME MORE LAND ON THAT SOUTHERN END TO TRY TO GET MORE FUNDS AND THIS LANDOWNER IS NOT A DEVELOPER, IS NOT TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THEIR PROFIT BY TRYING TO GET SOMETHING MORE OUT OF THE COUNTY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET TWO COMPATIBLE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES ON EACH EN, AND GIVING THAT LAND BECAUSE IT'S NOT REQUIRED BY THE PUD IS A BENEVOLENT ACT, TALKING ABOUT THE SOUTHERN PARCEL, YOU CAN SEE WHEN WE HAD OUR ENGINEERS EVALUATE FROM THE BEGINNING, THAT GREEN AREA, IT'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER COMING ..TO THE ROAD BECAUSE THAT'S AT A 25 FOOT SETBACK, THIS AREA ALONG HERE IS A 15 FOOT SETBACK BASED ON THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE AND THEM WANTING EVERYTHING TO MOVE FAR LEFT TO FAR AS POSSIBLE, SO IT'S WIDER TO THE LEFT PART OF THE SCREEN BUT IT'S CONSTRAINED. HOWEVER AS YOU SEE, THERE IS SOME ROOM ON THE SOUTHERN END TO BE ABLE -- WHERE IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE BUILDING PAD WHERE WE MIGHT STILL BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THIS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND ALL PARTIES WITH Y -- CAN WIN. I'VE HAD MY ENGINEER LOOK AT IT TO SEE HOW MUCH LAND WE CAN GIVE ON THE SOUTH AND I TALKED TO MY CLIENT AND I KEEP USING THIS WORD, BENEVOLENTLY, THEY ARE PREPARED TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO GIVE MORE LAND ON THE SOUTH END TO HELP THE COUNTY, IT NEEDS TO BE NOT AT THEIR DETRIMENT TO GETTING AT LEAST A SINGLE FAMILY. THEY'RE NOT ASKING TO BUILD CONDOS OR 16 HOUSES, THEY'RE ASKING FOR TWO COMPATIBLE SINGLE FAMILY RIZ DENSEST -- RESIDENCES ON EACH END. GIVING THE COUNTY ON EACH LAND, I'LL SHOW YOU SOME GRAPHICS, I WAS ABLE TO WORK ON THIS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY WITH MY ENGINEER HOW WE CAN GIVE THE COUNTY MORE LAND. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT CURB CUT IS THERE, WE CAN CAN GIVE THE COUNTY SOME LAND, ABOUT 80, 85 FEET WHICH IS WHAT OUR ENGINEER SAYS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO THAT SORT OF TROLLEY PULL IN AND PULL

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OUT, AND THAT'S PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE. AGAIN WE'VE DONE THESE TROLLEYS BEFORE, I'VE HAD ONE DOWNTOWN BEFORE, AND IT WAS THE SAME DISTANCE, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, MY ENGINEER LOOKED AT IT AND SAID THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED, SO I'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE.

YOU HAVE YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING DIVISION REVIEW, THERE ARE NO OPEN COMMENTS ON THIS, YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THIS MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CODE. YOU HAVE UPDATES SINCE PZA FROM TRANSPORTATION SAYING ACCESS AND IT WON'T AFFECT TRANSPORTATION WHATSOEVER, YOU SEE YOUR PLANNING DIVISION REPORT, IT SHOWS THAT AS I ALLUDED TO, THIS PARTICULAR MODIFICATION DOES NOT TRIGGER ANY REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS AS TALKED ABOUT OVER THE YEARS. THEY ALSO WENT THROUGH THE HISTORY OF IT WITHIN YOUR STAFF REPORT AND SAID, THIS IS YOUR PLANNING STAFF, THIS ISN'T ME, THIS IS YOUR EXPERT STAFF EVALUATING IT SAYING THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN DOES NOT MAKE REFERENCE TO ANY PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS OR PLANNING, SO ANYONE WHO SAYS IT'S REQUIRED TO HAVE THE BEACH ACCESS, THAT'S WRONG. YOUR PLANNING STAFF IS TELLING YOU THAT. THAT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I'M PROPOSING TO YOU, THIS OWNER IS PROPOSING TO GIVE YOU THAT NORTHERN LAND WHICH IS SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF VALUE FOR THE COUNTY TO HAVE THEIR PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS AS WELL AS PARKING AND FACILITIES WHICH YOU SAW IN YOUR E-MAILS, THE OCEAN GRAND PARK IMMENSELY GRATEFUL FOR THAT PARTICULAR DONATION FROM THIS APPLICANT BECAUSE THEN THEY HAVE BEACH ACCESS WHICH THEY HAVE NONE RIGHT NOW. AGAIN, YOU SEE FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT THAT PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS IS VERY SPARSE IN THE GENERAL VICINITY, THERE IS BEACH ACCESS TO THE NORTHERN PARCEL IS 178 MILE TOS THE NORTH WHERE THE SO*ET EARN PARCEL IS ROUGHLY 1.3 MILE TOS THE SOUTH, WE'RE TRYING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COUNTY WITH THIS REQUEST AND MEET THE SPIRIT INTENT OF THIS PUD AND OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT REQUIRED AND IF THIS APPLICANT DIDN'T COME OR IS NOT TLOG DO THIS, THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN, TO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT THIS PARTICULAR OWNER AND APPLICANT ASKING FOR TWO SINGLE FAMILY COMPATIBLE RESIDENCES ON EACH END IS WILLING TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND NOT TRYING TOG MAXIMIZE THE PROFIT ON THIS AND FW*IF THE COUNTY THE ABILITY TO GO FORWARD AS WELL AS THIS APPLICANT TO RECOUP SOFM THE FUNDS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT A DEVELOPER.

AGAIN, YOU SEE WITHIN THE REQUEST, THERE'S A MINOR WAIVER REQUESTED, THIS TALKS ABOUT MBP MAPS AND SPECIFICS OF MBP MAPS, WITHIN YOUR PUD'S, JUST TO TALK ABOUT OUR CODE FOR A MINUTE, YOU USUALLY WILL HAVE AN MDP MAP THAT LAYS THINGS OUT, LIKE YOU SAW ON THE LAST ONE, YOU HAVE AN MDP, YOU'LL HAVE A MAP LIKE THAT SHOWS WHERE EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE. ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, A USUAL PUD IS TO HAVE RESIDENCES, IT SHOWS WHERE THE GENERAL AREA THAT THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE, IT DOESN'T SHOW THE HOUSE AND IT DOESN'T SHOW THE LAYOUT OF THE PARTICULAR FINALITY OF WHERE THINGS WILL BE, IT SHOWS IT GENERALLY AND THAT'S WHAT THIS WAIVER SAYS, ALTHOUGH I TOLD YOU I HAD ENGINEERS LOOK AT THIS FROM THE BEGINNING AND WE LOOKED AT THE COUNTY ON THIS TO MAKE SURE THE PARKING AREA CAN FIT FOR YOU GUYS AS WELL AS THESE TWO SINGLE RESIDENCES ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH. AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE WAYS THAT IT WOULD LAY OUT, THAT'S ALL WITHIN YOUR CODE.

WE LAD A -- HAD A PLANNING AND SEEDING EEDING -- ZONING AGENCY MEETING, THEY FOUND THIS REQUEST IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE REQUEST OF USES ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND THE PLANNED AND PRESENT DEVELOP LT OF THE AREA, THE GRANTING OF LAND OF TO THE COUNTY FOR BEACH ACCESS AND THE ADDITION OF TWO COMPATIBLE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS ON EACH END TO THE SOUNDING USES IS REASONABLE, AND APPROPRIATE FOR A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AND THOSE WERE THE FINDINGS OF YOUR PZA.

AS I SAID, SUBSEQUENT TO THE PLANING AND ZONING AGENCY HEARING WHERE THERE WAS SOME LAY TESTIMONY ABOUT TRAFFIC CONCERNS, YOUR TRAFFIC STAFF WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT IT, THIS IS WITHIN YOUR STAFF REPORT, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION 2/11/26, STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE ACCESS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS THE CAPACITY OF A1A AND HAS FOUND NO CONCERNS REGARDING THE ACCESS.

IN CONCLUSION, BASED ON ALL OF THE ATTACHED PICTURES, THE CODE REQUIREMENT, STAFF ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATION REQUIREMENTS FOR THE THE FINDINGS OF YOUR PZA, THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE AND REASONABLE RECOMMENDATION WHICH FALL

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WITHIN THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF YOUR CODE AND WE ASK FOR APPROVAL.

YOU HAVE YOUR FINDINGS AS FAR AS YOUR CONDITIONS WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT, LET ME SKIP DOWN REAL QUICK, I KNOW YOU MAY HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND YOU MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT SOUTHERN END BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS SICE I WAS MADE AWARE THE COUNTY WOULD NEED MORE LAND. YOU CAN SEE THAT SOUTHERN AND HOW CONSTRAINED THAT IS, WE WOULD PUT THIS SINGLE FAMILY UNIT TO THE NORTH END OF THAT SOUTHERN PIECE AND THAT WOULD FIT, THAT'S THE FAT PIECE OF THE LAND.

THIS IS WHAT WE HAD PUT IN THERE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 30 FEET AT THE BOTTOM END WHICH WAS AFTER PZA, I WENT BACK TO MY CLIENT AND SAID WE NEED TO GIVE MORE LAND TO THE COUNTY ON THE SOUTHERN END TO HAVE THAT BEACH ACCESS.

THE COUNTY NEEDS SOME MORE LAND SO I HAVE LOOKED AT IT. THIS IS AN AERIAL, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT CURB CUT IS, HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S SIDE, AND I DO HAVE SOME STUFF FROM MY ENGINEER AND HE'S E-MAILING IT TO ME, I CAN BRING IT BACK UP TO YOU SHOWING HOW THIS WOULD FIGMENT I MEASURED IT OUT LAST NIGHT SO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE TODAY, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 80 FEET TO WHERE THAT CURB CUT IS ITSELF, SO I THINK THE AMOUNT THAT HE SAID IS PROBABLY AROUND 80 FEET, WHEN HE DREW IT UP, HE SAID MAYBE 85 FEET, SO I SAID THAT'S FINE. WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO GIVE THE COUNTY 85 FEET, THAT WILL FIT WHAT WHAT THE COUNTY NEEDS IF IT'S A TROLLEY ACCESS OR GET THEM THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF FUNDS FOR THE COUNTY FOR THE NOURISHMENT. THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO GRANT THIS STRIP IF REQUESTED OR REQUIRED FURTHER, THIS IS ALREADY REASONABLE AND COMPATIBLE PROPOSAL EVEN WITHOUT THIS, THIS OWNER WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO IT AND I TALKED TO THEM LAST NIGHT AND THEY'RE PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD AS SUCH. HERE'S A VIEW OF THE AMOUNT THAT THIS APPLICANT COULD GRANT TO THE COUNTY WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT ON THE NORTHERN END OF THIS WOULD ALLOW REASONABLE BUFFER BETWEEN THAT AND THIS AREA AND BASED UPON ALL THAT, THE DRIVEWAYS WOULD BE FURTHER APART WHICH WOULD ALLOW FDOT TO ALLOW ACCESS TO BOTH BECAUSE THIS IS FDOT ROAD.

I THINK AS SUCH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND MAYBE LISTEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT BUT I CAN ANSWER -- IF THERE'S MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT SOUTHERN END BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT, IF NOT, I CAN DO THAT, IF NOT, THANK YOU, MR.

CHAIR. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, YOU HAVE

THE FLOOR. >> I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION, I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONERS BUT I WANT TO WAIT UNTIL PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT -- UNLESS COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE] HAD ANOTHER IDEA, WHO OWNS THE TUNNEL, IS THE OWNER THE OWNER OF THE TUNNEL? .

INGER NO, SO THE TUNNEL IS AN EASEMENT FOR THE OCEAN GRAND SIDE OF THE ROAD TO BE ABLE TO GET ACROSS A1A WITHOUT CROSSING WHERE YOU HAVE ALL DRIVEN THROUGH THERE WHERE YOU HAVE TURN LANES.

>> YOUR CLIENT DOESN'T OWN THAT TUNNEL? >> THEY DO NOT.

>> THANKS. >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE HARD WORK, I APPRECIATE THE 85 FEET ON THE SOUTH END.

AND MAYBE THIS IS MORE OF A QUESTION FOR STAFF. WOULD THE PROPERTY OWNER BE WILLING TO NEGOTIATE ABOUT SELLING THE WHOLE SOUTH PART INSTEAD OF JUST --

>> I THINK THEY WOULD BECAUSE AGAIN THEY'RE NOT DEVELOPERS, SO IT'S MORE LIKELY -- I DON'T KNOW THIS, I'M SPEAKING GENERALLY NOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE CLIENT, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THE INTENT FROM THE BEGINNING WAS NOT TO BE A DEVELOPER, THE INTENT WAS TO RECOUP SOME OF THEIR FUNDS. THEY'RE GETTING PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR FOR THE AMOUNT -- THAT'S NOT THE COUNTY'S ISSUE BUT THAT'S REALITY.

SO, THE FACT IS THAT THEY WOULD MOST LIKELY BE WILLING TO SELL THAT FOR FAIR MARKET ALUE IF THAT IS PAR DISCUSSION AFTER THE FACT BUT I THINK AGAIN AS WE SPOKE AND ALL OF US, I THINK THIS IS A REASONABLE REQUEST AND THEN WE CAN ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR THING.

I THINK IT'S ALSO APPROPRIATE THOUGH THAT I WANTED TO LOOK AT STRINGING TO GIVE YOU WHAT WE THINK IS THE AMOUNT YOU WILL NEED. MAYBE IF YOU GET MORE, YOU CAN DO SOMETHING ELSE. I WILL TELL YOU THIS, AS FULL TRANSPARENCY, WE LOOKED ALT THE SOUTHERN END TO SEE IF WE CAN GET MORE PARKING FROM THE BEGINNING AND THERE REALLY WASN'T, THERE WAS AN ABILITY TO GET FOUR, FIVE SPACES WHICH DOESN'T HELP BECAUSE YOU NEED A MINIMUM AMOUNT TO GET --

>> THE TROLLEY HELPS USS MORE. >> RIGHT, AND I THINK WE CAN FIT THAT.

>> WITHOUT FURTHER COMMENT FROM THE BOARD, LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.

PLEASE COME UP. >> IF THERE'S MORE THAN ONE, COME ON UP AND LINE UP, WE

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HAVE A LONG DAY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS TIM, I LIVE AT 200 BELL CIRCLE, MY PROPERTY IS JUST NORTH OF THE NORTH PARCEL IN QUESTION AND I THINK THE CHARACTERIZATION PRESENTED BY MR. WHITEHURST IS INACCURATE.

I AND MANY OF OUR RESIDENT INS THE AREA SUPPORT THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND IS WE SUPPORT THE BEACH ACCESS BECAUSE IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE PEOPLE OF OCEAN GRANDE TO GET THAT BACK, WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM IS A TRAVESTY, THEY LOST BEACH ACCESS, THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO GIVE THAT BACK TO THEM. WHAT WE'RE OPPOSED TO IS THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE CONTRARY TO THE FACT THAT IS WERE PRESENTED RECENTLY, THE SCIENCE AND AGAIN THIS IS AN ART AND A SCIENCE, THE ART PART OF THIS IS THAT THAT PARKING LOT WE CREATED A SAFETY HAZARD FOR THE PEOPLE TRANSITING A1A AND THE PEOPLE GAINING ACCESS FROM A1A FROM SIDE STREET AND IS RESIDENCES. WE REFER TO THAT AREA OF A1A JUST NORTH OF OCEAN GRANDE AND THE BEACH CLUB AS A SLINGSHOT.

I WANT DIRECT VIEW OF THAT A1A HIGHWAY, IT IS DANGEROUS, I DRIVE -- I USED TO DRIVER COMPETITIVELY SO I'M A VERY GOOD ACTIVE DRIVER, NOT EVERYBODY S COMING OUT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT OR ANY OTHER ACCESS ALONG A1A THERE IS DANGEROUS AS IT IS NOW. CREATING A PARKING LOT THERE WHICH WILL ALWAYS OVERFILL AS IT DOES JUST NORTH OF THAT PROPOSED BEACH ACCESS AT THE SOUTH PONTE VEDRA RECREATION AREA, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT BEACH ON A SUMMER BEACH DAY, THE PARKING LOT DOES OVERFLOW, PEOPLE WANT TO GO TO THE BEACH.

THE SAME THING IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHERE THIS PROPOSED PARKING LOT IS.

I WANT TO RESTATE MY POINT. I SUPPORT PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS THERE, I SUPPORT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. WHO ARE WE O DETERMINE WHO CAN BUILD WHERE. LET'S COMPENSATE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HURT BY THE HORRIBLE THING THAT HAPPENED AT THE OCEAN GRANDE AND SERENATA BEACH CLUB. THE PARKING LOT WILL CREATE A SA SA*RD, IT WILL CREATE PROBLEMS AND THE YOU LOOK AT THE E-MAIL, THE FACTS, I HAVE DATA TO BACK THAT UP.

MORE INCREASED PARKING WILL CREATE MORE OF A SAFETY HAZARD, THE FATALITIES ALONG A1A IS DOCUMENTED. THE DANGER IN FRONT OF THE REEF, AND THAT'S A STRAIGHT ROAD THERE, THE S-CURVE AT SERENADA IS DANGEROUS ALREADY, ANOTHER PARKING THERE WILL INCREASE THAT DANGER, MAKE IT A TROLLEY ONLY STOP, LET'S KEEP 20 PARKING SPOTS OUT OF THAT PROJECT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> NEXT, COME ON UP, IF EVERYBODY CAN BE READY, WE HAVE A BUSY, LONG DAY TODAY.

UNLESS YOU ARE GOING TO BE USING THE MIDDLE SECTION AND BE PRESENTING SOMETHING.

IF YOU'RE SPEAKING WITHOUT A PRESENTATION, PLEASE COME UP TO THE MIC., THANK YOU SO

MUCH. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, GUY RASH, 2803 SOUTH PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD. I HATE I'M READING THIS BUT I WANT TO GET IT IN IN THREE MINUTES. I SPEAK TO YOU AS A FULL TIME RESIDENT OF SOUTH PONTE VEDRA AS WELL AS THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE BEACH PRESERVATION ASSOCIATION, I SPEAK TODAY ON BEHALF OF MANY OF THE OVER 600 BEACH FRONT PROPERTY OWNERS OF SOUTH PONTE VEDRA AND VILANO BEACHES, WHEN THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED, THE COUNTY REQUIRED DEVELOPER TO DEDICATE PUBLIC EASEMENTS ON EACH END OF THE PROPOSED CONDO PROJECT AS A REPLACEMENT FOR THE LOSS OF THREE PUBLIC EASEMENTS THAT WOULD HAVE BISECTED OF THE BEACH FRONT DEVELOPMENT.

WITHOUT THESE EASEMENTS, THERE WOULD BE OVER THREE MILES OF FRONT BEACH MADE PRIVATE AND THE COUNTY PLANNERS WERE NOT LOG DO THAT AT THE TIME.

WHY SHOULD WE TODAY PERMANENTLY MAKE THIS A PRIVATE BEACH? THERE ARE MULTIPLE REASONS WHY THIS WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY THE WRONG TIME FOR THE COUNTY TO APPROVE THE TAKING OF THESE TWO LONG HELD PUBLIC EASEMENTS. FIRST ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS GROWN EXPONENTIALLY SINCE THE ORIGINAL PUD WAS SIGNED IN 1985. TERSELY AREN'T ENOUGH PUBLIC ACCESS IN SOUTH PONTE VEDRA TO SUPPORT THE AMOUNT OF COUNTY RESIDENTS AS WELL AS VISITORS WOULD WANT TO ENJOY OUR BEACHES AND NOT ENOUGH PARKING ACCESSES WITH PARKING AVAILABLE.

PARKING WITH THESE TWO EASEMENTS WOULD PROVIDE THAT. ALSO A TROLLEY SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN RECENTLY PROPOSED TO ALLOW INCREASED BEACH ACCESS FOR COUNTY RESIDENTS AS WELL AS VISITOR, THESE TWO EASEMENTS WOULD PROVIDE SAFE ROLLEY SPOTS FOR EACH P. WE ARE NOT ADVOCATING FOR PUBLIC BEACHES, WE WANT ALL THE RESIDENT TOS HAVE ACCESS TO OUR BEACHES.

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TO OUR ASSOCIATION MEMBERS, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FEDERAL COST SHARE DOLLARS THAT THESE TWO EASEMENTS WOULD PROVIDE IN BOTH THE U.S. ARMY CORPS ENGINEERS COASTAL MANAGEMENT PROJECTS, WITH THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC ACCESSES WITH PARKING, EVERY HALF MILE FOR FULL FEDERAL COST SHARE, THE LOSS OF THESE TWO ACCESSES WOULD LEAVE AT LEAST A FULL MILE OAF BEACH UB AVAILABLE FOR FULL COST SHARE. THE LOSS OF THESE TWO PARCEL ACCESSES WOULD COST THE COUNTY TAXPAYERS 17 MILLION DOLLARS IN LOST FEDERAL COST SHARE FUNDS FOR THE TWO COASTAL STORM RISK MANAGEMENT PROJECTS.

AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY ALSO A PAIR OF SAFE TROLLEY SPOTS WOULD HEAD TO THE FEDERAL COST SHARE.

I'M GOING TO ADD THAT, IT'S BEEN MENTIONED BUT PLEASE HEAR THIS, EVERY FOOT THAT GOES TO THE COUNTY FOR EASEMENT COUNTS TOWARDS THIS FEDERAL COST SHARE, IT'S NOT JUST THE PARKING SPOTS, IT'S NOT JUST THE EASEMENT ITSELF, IT'S EVERY FOOT ON THE OCEAN GOES TO THE FEDERAL COST SHARE.

THE MORE WE HAVE, THE MORE COST SHARE WE HAVE. >> GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS BOB WAG NER, ONE OF THE OWNERS AT OCEAN GRANDE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPERTIES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. ONE OF THE ORIGINAL PLANS, THEY SHOWED AN EASEMENT THAT WENT THROUGH THE SERENADA BEACH WAY, THE TUNNEL, I BELIEVE THE STATE OF FLORIDA OWNS THAT TUNNEL BUT WE RETAIN THE TUNNEL, IT'S IN OUR OPERATING ASPENS EVERY YEAR AND WE PAY THE ASSESSMENTS TO FIX THE LIGHTING AND THE CONCRETE IN THAT TUNNEL AND CLEAN IT ALL THE TIME.

SO, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL. CONSIDERING THE TRAFFIC ON A1A, IT'S BAD TRAFFIC ALONG THERE BUT IT'S BAD TRAFFIC ALL THE WAY TO THE PUBLIX AND VILANO BEACH AND ALL THE WAY UP TO VILANO, YOU CAN LOOK AT IT. THE CARS HAVE TO SLOW DOWN AND ANOTHER FLASHING LIGHT PUSH BUTTON WHERE IT'S NOT GOING OFF ALL DAY BUT WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO GET ACROSS WOULD SLOW IT DOWN TO A GREAT DEGREE. THERE IS ACCESS FOR US FROM OCEAN GRANDE IN THE TUNNEL BUT WE CAN'T GO ACROSS THE PROPERTY , IF THERE COULD BE ACCESS PURCHASED OR ACCESS ALONG THE FRONT, A SMALL, SHORT DISTANCE SIDEWALK OR A PATHWAY COULD BE INSTALLED THERE TO GET DOWN TO THE BEACH. RIGHT NOW MY WIFE AND I GO THE BEACH AT SURF SIDE WHICH IS A LOVELY FACILITY DOWN THE ROAD CLOSER TO PUBLIX AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO IN THE MORNING AND TAKE MY DOG OVER THERE TO TO BEACH, WATCH THE SUN GO UP AND GO BACK HOME. THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US AND I THANK THE COMMISSIONERS WHO RESPONDED TO THEIR E-MAILS, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. >> [INAUDIBLE], 305 SOUTH OCEAN GRANDE DRIVE, UNIT 101, SOMETIME BACK I SENT SOME WRITTEN INFORMATION REQUESTING CONSIDERATION FOR THIS BEACH ACCESS.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS IS THE NUMBER OF ACCESSES THAT ARE BEING TABULATED HERE, NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE POPULATION OF OCEAN GRANDE WHERE YOU HAVE 200 SEPARATE OCCUPIED UNITS WITH NO ACCESS TO THE BEACH. THERE IS ON PAPER, THERE IS AN ACCESS TO THE BEACH BUT IT'S ONLY AS GOOD AS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE CLUB ALLOW YOU TO GO. IT'S ALL CLOSED AND IT HAS BEEN DESIGNED FROM THE BEGINNING APPARENTLY FOR ACCESS THROUGH THE TUNNEL FROM OCEAN GRANDE TO THE EAST SIDE OF A1A INTO THE PARKING LOT OF THE TUNNEL THAT IS BEING USED BOTH BY THE VILLAS, SINCE THE EASEMENT OF 2003 THAT WAS DEFINING THE USE OF THE TUNNEL, ACCESS TO THE TUNNEL IS LIMITED TO THE PARKING LOT ON THE EAST SIDE OF A1A. SO, FOR US, WE ARE -- WE HAVE NO ACCESS TO THE BEACH. THE DEVELOPMENTS ON EITHER SIDE OF US, THERE IS ACCESS O THE BEACH, THE TUNNEL, YOU KNOW, SO THE OTHERS HAVE PRIVATE ACCESS TO THE BEACH.

WE HAVE NOT BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR ACCESS TO THE BEACH, SO PLEASE CONSIDER IT. THERE IS SOMETHING THAT I SAID THAT WOULD BE SIMPLE IS -- THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING THAT CAME UP WITH THE SAME

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SOLUTION IS THEY USE THE TUNNEL THAT WE HAVE, GIVE US ACCESS TO THE SIDEWALK WHICH IS ONLY MAYBE TEN FEET AWAY AND THEN TOE ENTER AN ACCESS DRIVEWAY, TURN TO GO SOUTH ON COUNTY PROPERTY WITH THE SIDEWALK, SO HALF A MILE DOWN TO THE LOTS IN QUESTION ON THE SOUTH END. THAT'S ALL IT IS, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE ON PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD, SERVING THE PEOPLE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE BOULEVARD. IT'S A LOCAL CONSIDERATION AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER IT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED AND SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE PROVIDED FOR US.

IT'S SOMETHING OF VALUE, SOMETHING THAT WILL BE USED AND IT WILL BE RELATIVELY EASY ACCESS FOR THE ADULT POPULATION IN OCEAN GRANDE.

THE ONLY THING I ASK, WHATEVER SOLUTION IS COMING UP WITH,

YOU HAVE A TEN YEAR CALENDAR TO COMPLETE IT, CONSIDER THAT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, MORRIS MAPLE, 215 SOUTH OCEAN GRANDE DRIVE. I REPRESENT A LARGE CONTINGENCY OF THE OWNERS AT OCEAN GRANDE, WE'RE ALL CONCERNED WHETHER YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE NEW OCEAN CLUB OR WHETHER YOU DECIDED NOT TO JOIN THAT, WE ALWAYS HAD ACCESS TO THE BEACH. AND THERE'S A STRONG CONTINGENCY THERE THAT HOPES THAT YOU WILL APPROVE THIS MODIFICATION, IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO UP TO THE FIRE STATION A MILE AND A HALF OR DOWN A MILE STAFF DOUP THE SOUTHERN PORTION AND EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY IN OUR AREA HAS PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS.

SO, I'M URGING YOU TO APPROVE THIS, I THINK THAT ANY SAFETY ISSUES WILL BE ADDRESSED BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND ALL I SAY IS IF WE COULD GET THIS APPROVED, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN DO IT WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD SO A LOT OF THE SENIOR MEMBERS WHO LIVE IN OCEAN GRANDE CAN ACCESS THE BEACH DURING THEIR

LIFETIME, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, HOW ARE YOU? MY NAME'S [INAUDIBLE], I'VE BEEN A PONTE VEDRA BEACH RESIDENT FOR OVER 30 YEARS, A REALTOR AT THE BEACH FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND I CAN TELL YOU ONE OF THE MOST COMMON QUESTIONS WE GET ASKED IS WHERE TEES THE BEACH ACCESS. OCEAN GRANDE HAS BEEN WAITING NOW FOR 20 YEARS TO HAVE SOMETHING THEY CAN CALL THEIR OWN. WE FINALLY HAVE A SLIVER OF AN OPPORTUNITY AND WE'RE URGING YOU TO PLEASE APPROVE THE MODIFICATION AND HELP US PROTECT OUR PROPERTY VALUES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. WHO'S NEXT? >> I'LL GO NEXT, I'M FRED [INAUDIBLE], AN ORIGINAL OWNER IN OCEAN GRANDE CONDOMINIUMS, I BOUGHT BEFORE THE PROPERTY WAS COMPLETED IN 2023. MOVED IN -- I MEAN, 2003, MOVED IN, IN 2004. I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR OVER 13 YEARS.

WHEN I BOUGHT THE PRESENTATION TO US WAS THAT THE TUNNEL PROVIDED THAT WE PAID FOR WOULD PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE CLUB AND TO THE BEACH, NOT INDIVIDUALLY. WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD COST A LOT OF MONEY AND IT DIDN'T SEEM TO MAKE THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE WHEN AFTER ALL THE UNITS WERE SOLD, THEN THEY PUT THE FWAET -- GATE UP AND THEY STARTED CHARGING IFING YOU DIDN'T HAVE CLUB MEMBERSHIP BECAUSE THEY ALSO GAVE YOU CLUB MEMBERSHIP IF YOU DIDN'T BUY. THAT'S THE BACKGROUND OF IT. IT WAS MY IDEA, THE CONCEPT CAME UP TO HAVE 30 FEET ACCESS FOR CROSSING, BUT I REALLY SUPPORT THAT THEY CAME UP WITH WHAT THEY HAD DONE.

I THINK THEY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE HAD REQUESTED AND AS A RETIRED CAVILER NGINEER -- CIVIL ENGINEER WITH MASTERS PLANNING AND Select to skip to this part of the video">NGINEER -- CIVIL ENGINEER WITH MASTERS PLANNING AND ENGINEER PLANNING, I THINKING THE FLORIDA DOT WILL BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A SAFE CROSSING FOR THAT AND I APPLAUD THE IDEA OF THE TROLLEY TOO, I THINK THAT'S A

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REALLY GOOD IDEA THAT I FIRST HEARD FROM THE PLANNING BOARD,

SO I'M HAPPY WITH THE OUTCOME OF THIS, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> I'M BILL, I'M A PRESIDENT OF THE CONDO ASSOCIATION THERE. WE HAVE THREE PRIMARY CONCERNS, NUMBER ONE, SAFETY AND SECURITY, WE HAVE IF YOU HAVE SEEN ALL THE DIAGRAMS THAT WERE PUT UP, WE HAVE POOLS ON EITHER END OF OUR PROPERTY RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE AND TO BE HONEST, IF YOU HAVE A PARKING LOT ON ONE END AND A WALK OVER ON THE OTHER EN, THAT CAN ATTRACT PEOPLE COMING OFF THE BEACH IF THEY SEE THERE'S SWIMMING POOL THERE. WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS IN THE PAST WITH BEACH GOERS COMING OFF THE BEACH AFTER A LONG DAY, MAYBE THEY HAD A FEW DRINKS ON THE BEACH AND LOOK OVER, THERE'S A POOL OVER THERE, LET'S GO TAKE A DIP. THIS IS ONLY GOING TO BE EXACERBATED BY ADDING A PARKFINGER LOT ON THE NORTH END IF WE DON'T PUT SOME VISUAL BARRIER THERE.

SO, I THINK WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE IS MAYBE THE COUNTY OR THIS BENEVOLENT OWNER COULD INCLUDE THIS THE PROJECT SOME TYPE OF VISUAL AND PHYSICAL BARRIER FENCE ALONG BOTH PROPERTY LINES, THAT WAY PEOPLE WON'T BE ATTRACTED TO GO JUMP THE FENCE OVER TO OUR POOL AND CRACK THEIR HEAD AND HAVE AN ACCIDENT.

IT'S A SECURITY AND SAFETY CONCERN THAT WE'RE MAKING SUCH A REQUEST. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION TODAY EVEN WITH PEOPLE PRO OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT WITH REGARD TO TRAFFIC CONCERNS. IF YOU HAVER ANY DOUBT IN YOUR MIND, I WOULD COME AROUND LUNCHTIME AND PULL OUT TOWARDS A1A, THERE'S SOMEBODY COMING FROM OCEAN GRANDE ACROSS THE STREET, THEY DIDN'T PUT THEIR TURN SIGNALS ON, ARE THEY GOING LEFT OR RIGHT, IT'S ALWAYS A CRAP SHOOT AFTER YOU COME OUT TO A1A, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADD AGO TROLLEY STOP IN A CURVED AREA, THAT TOTALLY BEGETS FOR RIGID STUDY BY THE FDOT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS THING, IT NEEDS A RIGOROUS STUDY. LETBACKER LET'S NOT WAIT FOR EXTENTS AND SOME PEOPLE AIRLIFTED OUT OF THERE AND BE REACTIVE AND FIX IT LATER, LET'S DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AROUND. THE OTHER THING HAS TO DO WITH TRAFFIC, DURING PEAK TIMES DURING HOLIDAYS, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON O SEE PARKED CARS ALONG THE ROAD BECAUSE THE PARKING LOTS ARE FULL.

I WOULD IMAGINE A 20 CAR PARKING LOT ON THOSE BUSY TIMES IS GOING TO FILL UP QUICKLY AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CURVED AREA, PARKED CARS ALONG THE ROAD, WE REALLY WANT TO HAVE THAT BE DESIGNATED AS A TOW AWAY ZONE AND HAVE RIGOROUS ENFORCEMENT OF IT, WE THINK THAT'S IMPERATIVE BEFORE SOMEBODY GETS HURT AS A RESULT OF NOTHING HAVING SIGNS LIKE TLA AND ENFORCEMENT TOWING.

ER >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING.

>> GREG, 215 SOUTH OCEAN GRANDE. I AM IN FAVOR OF BEACH ACCESS AT THE PARCELS BUT I'M NOT IN FAVOR AS IT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED.

THE PROPOSAL SAYS THAT IT MEETS THE ORIGINAL PUD AND IT DOES NOT.

I THINK THE ORIGINAL PUD SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT PARKING AND DOING WALK OVERS WOULD BE PROVIDED AT THE OWNER'S EXPENSE. AND NA'S NOT PART OF THE CURRENT PROPOSAL. THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS ALSO ORIGINALLY ONLY THE NORTH SIDE AND THAT DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY KIND OF SAFE BEACH ACCESS FOR THE OCEAN GRANDE RESIDENTS. IT WOULD NEED TO BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND IF THERE ISN'T AN EASEMENT FROM THE TUNNEL WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TO EITHER PARCEL, THERE'S NO SAFE WAY FOR AN OCEAN GRANDE RESIDENT TO GET TO THE BEACH. AND SO IT WOULD -- I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT BE CONTINGENT UPON SOME KIND OF EITHER AN EASEMENT OR A WALK OVER OR SOME OTHER ACCESS TO THE BEACH FOR OCEAN GRAND RESIDENTS BECAUSE THAT WAS CLEARLY THE INTENT OF THE ORIGINAL PUD. IT SHOULD BE EITHER SUBSIDIZED OR PAID FULLY BY THE OWNERS. THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.

SECONDLY THE SAFETY ISSUE IS CLEAR. IT'S ON A CURVE, IT'S 50

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MILES AN HOUR, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SKILLS TO GET OUT OF THAT DRIVEWAY SAFELY. THE OCEAN GRANDE OR THE BEACH SIDE, SO IF YOU DO ADD A PARKING LOT, THERE ARE GOING TO BE EXPONENTIAL SAFETY ISSUES AS SOMEONE ELSE MENTIONED. THERE IS NO WAY TO AVOID IT. IT WOULD EITHER HAVE TO REQUIRE A SPEED ZONE, FLASHING YELLOW LIGHTENS, SO ON AND SO FORTH FOR SAFETY PURPOSES. I THINK IT'S PRUDENT.ER THE BOARD TO RECONSIDER THE THING, THERE ARE A LOT OF SAFETY IMPACTS AND THERE'S PROBABLY A BETTER WAY TO SKIN THIS CAT THAN IS CURRENTY PROPOSED IS MY OPINION, SO I'M HOPING THE BOARD WILL PROPOSE A PERMIT AND A RE-EVALUATION AND ADD ADDITIONAL TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND INPUT. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING. >> I'LL BE VERY BRIEF, MY NAME IS BRUCE, I LIVE AT 415 NORTH OCEAN GRANDE.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY AS HAS BEEN BROWSING TO YOU AS A BOARD TODAY.

WE HAVE A BANK HOLDER THAT WOULD LIKE TO RECOVER SOME OF THEIR INVESTMENT ON A BANKRUPTCY PROCEEDING, I GET THAT. THE FACT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THIS LAND NOW ON A GIFT BASIS ON A FEE SIMPLE BASIS IS REALLY UNIQUE AND SPECIAL AND SHOULD BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. I WAS AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING HEARING AND LISTENED TO ATTORNEY WHITEHOUSE AND OTHERS AND IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY ESPECIALLY WHEN TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE SOUTH PARCEL AS WELL AND THE TROLLEY SPOT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TURN OUR BACK ON THE FEDERAL AND OTHER MONIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND OUR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN THESE BEACHES IN THE LONG TERM IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR OCEAN GRANDE RIGHT TOS HAVE BEACH ACCESS WHICH THIS WILL ALSO ACCOMMODATE. WE DO MAINTAIN THE TUNNEL AND THAT'S ANOTHER STORY FOR ANOTHER DAY. IT'S BEST IF WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY AND THEN WE CAN CAN WORK WITH THE STATE AND THE COUNTY TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ISSUES WHICH CAN BE REAL AT TIMES BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO AS GOOD CITIZENS, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS FRED, I LIVE AT 121TIGE EDGE PLACE WHICH IS THE SUBDIVISION JUST NORTH OF PROPERTY IN QUESTION BY A FEW YARDS. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT CLEAR WE HAVE NEVER OPPOSED THE TWO SINGLE FAMILY UNITERS THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THIS PROPERTY. WE ARE NOT IN OPPOSITION TO THAT, WE HAVE NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT. ALSO WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO PRIVATE -- PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS, WE THINK THAT THE MORE PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS, THE BETTER. THIS -- WE HAVE NEVER REFERRED TO ANY OF THE BEACH AREA THERE AS PRIVATE BEACH.

I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT, THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE BEACH IS PUBLIC AND WE NEVER TOOK THAT POSITION. WE ARE HOWEVER CONCERNED WITH THE TRAFFIC ISSUE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE STATE IS REQUIRED TO DO A STUDY BEFORE THIS IS APPROVED OR NOT, BUT WE ARE CONCERNED WITH THE ADDITIONAL PARKING, THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THE CURVED ROAD WHICH IS PRETTY RISKY TO DRIVE ON NOW AT TIMES AND ALSO DURING THE PEAK HOURS OF BEACH USE INEVITABLY, PEOPLE PARK ALONG THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, BOTH SIDES OF A1A IN A CURVED AREA, IT COULD BE VERY DANGEROUS. SO, THAT IS OUR POSITION, WE'RE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND WE THINK THAT -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE STATE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT STUDY IS REQUIRED FOR THE SAFETY ISSUE OR NOT, BUT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY ISSUE.

THANK YOU. >> GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YOU MAY WONDER WHY I'M

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HERE, I HAVE FINISHED MY COMMISSION ROLE, I WAS INVITED A FEW MONTHS LATER TO JOIN THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE SOUTH PONTE VEDRA AND VERANO BEACH ASSOCIATION, IN FACT, WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE IN 2016, MY FIRSTS MEETING DURING MY CAMPAIGN WAS IN MARCH OF 2016, IT WAS WITH THIS GROUP THAT INCITED ME TO COME SO THEY COULD DISCUSS THEIR MANY, MANY ISSUES.

I WORKED FOR 8 YEARS ON THE COMMISSION TO TRY TO GET A FEDERAL PROJECT, WE'RE VERY CLOSE, IN FACT, RUTHERFORD INCLUDED MONEY IN THE WATER BILL TO DO THE NECESSARY PREWORK TO GO FORWARD THIS YEAR, THERE'S A HUGE COST INVOLVED.

YOU SAW IT EARLIER, JOE PRESENTED A SUMMARY OF WHERE WE ARE WORKING FOR A FEDERAL PROJECT. NOW WHAT I WANTED -- MY POSITION IS THIS, I WOULD SAY WHAT [INAUDIBLE] TOLD YOU, I WOULD STUDY THAT CLOSER. I WILL TELL YOU THAT, THE BALANCE HERE, EVERY MEETING, EACH OF YOU USUALLY HAVE AN ITEM WHERE YOU'RE BALANCING WHAT I REALLY BELIEVE IN STRONGLY, PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS WITH THE PUBLIC INTEREST, AND WHAT'S THE BALANCE THERE AND COMING UP WITH A DECISION, YOU HAVE SOME OTHERS LATER TODAY THAT YOU WILL BE DEAL WITCHING I -- DEALING WITH I SAW ON THE AGENDA. I'M GLAD I'M NOT UP THERE ANYWHERE. HAVING SAID THAT, I ASK THAT YOU FEEL VERY ASSURED FROM YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF, PROFESSIONAL EXCELLENT STAFF THAT ALL THE BASES ARE COVERED HERE BECAUSE I RESPECT PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS. I UNDERSTAND THE LENDER'S POSITION BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE -- WHAT'S AT ISSUE HERE IN MY MIND WITH RESPECT TO WANTONING TO GET THIS FEDERAL PROJECT GOING IS YOU SAW THE COST THIS MORNING, WHAT THAT PROJECT IS GOING TO COST.

WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS TO MAKE SURE WE CAN AVOID IT AND NOT LEAVE 17 MILLION DOLLARS ON THE TABLE OR COME UP WITH AN ADDITIONAL 17 MILLION, THAT O ME IS SORT OF THE YING AND YANG OF IT. YOU MIGHT WANT TO -- IF THIS HAS BEEN MAYBE A LOT TO ABSORB THIS MORNING, YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER A CONTINUANCE AND COME BACK AND DIG INTO IT DEEPER SO YOU'RE ASSURED OF THE POSITION YOU'RE TAKING BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES GOING BACK AND FORTH

HERE, SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> BJ, WEST CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE, YOU FORGOT TO DEEP OUT MR. DEAN. MR. WHITEHOUSE ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT'S ABOUT. NUMBER 2, THIS IS NOT GIVING THE LAND TO THE COUNTY AS A BRIBE, WE WON'T CONSIDER THIS A BRIBE.

NUMBER 3, LET'S GET RID OF THE PARKING LOT, LET THAT BE ON THE RECORD. AND THEN JUST FOR THE KNOWLEDGE OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T GET TO COME HERE, E-MAILS ARE FINE BUT WE NEVER KNOW WHO'S OPPOSING AND WHO'S FOR AND WE NEVER GET THAT INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD WHICH IS FINE, BUT WHEN YOU VISIT WITH COMMISSIONERS OR THE STAFF VERSUS SENDING E-MAILS, I GUESS WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT REALLY COUNTS AND HOW LONG YOU SPEND WITH DEVELOPERS BUT THIS ISN'T A DEVELOPER, AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE TIME TO COME TALK TO YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE OPEN TO TALK WITH EVERYBODY, BUT THIS AGAIN IS RESIDENT AGAINST RESIDENT. AND I'M GLAD I DON'T LIVE ON THE WATER, IT'S NICE, I JUST HAVE WHERE THE RAIN COMES DOWN AND I ENJOY THE RAIN COMING DOWN. BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME MORE LOOKING INTO THIS AND FOR MR. WHITEHOUSE TO BRING UP THE QUESTION OF CONTINUING, IT'S VERY GOOD BECAUSE SOMETHING IS GOING ON THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS YET. JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET MONEY, IF YOU WANT MONEY

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FROM THE STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THAT'S NO REASON TO DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT. WE KNOW EVERYTHING IS ABOUT MONEY, IT ALL GETS DOWN TO THE MONEY BUT THESE PEOPLE, THERE'S A CURRENT [INAUDIBLE], SO ALSO I AM GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN, I HAVE A COUPLE OF SECONDS LEFT, WHY ARE YOU NOT WATCHING THREE MINUTE TIME? WHAT IF I WANTED TO TALK AN EXTRA FIVE MINUTE, WOULD YOU ALLOW ME? NO.

THE DEPUTY WOULD COME OVER AND REMOVE ME.

AND THAT IS WRONG AND YOU CAN PRETEND THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD RUN THIS MEETING, THAT IS VERY

GET TO VOTE AGAIN, PEOPLE. >> ALLOW ME MY THREE MINUTES AND TO ANSWER THAT, COMMISSIONER DEAN IS FORMER COMMISSIONER, WE DON'T BEEP FORMER COMMISSIONERS FROM THIS PARTICULAR DAIS, SO THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 AT THIS TIME? OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE WILL

CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> I'M PREPARED TO HOLD MY QUESTIONS UNTIL I KNOW MR. WHITEHOUSE WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER SOME OF THE PUBLIC

COMMENT, I'M PREPARED TO HOLD MY QUESTIONS UNTIL THAT TIME. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR?

>> I'LL HOLD AS WELL. >> MR. WHILES HOUSE? >> -- WHITEHOUSE?

>> JAMES WHITEHOUSE, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY. I HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS I'M LOOKING FOR A CONTINUANCE OR THAT I'M TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S UNTOWARD WHICH IS COMPLETELY INA APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, I'M ASKING FOR TWO COMPATIBLE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES ON THE END OF THIS PARTICULAR PUD THAT'S BEEN APPROVED SIN 1985 WITH YOUR PLANNING STUFF AND EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT HAS FOUND TO BE APPROPRIATE REQUESTS FOR THIS. ALL OF OTHER THINGS YOU HAVE HEARD THE CONTROVERSY OVER, I DON'T AGREE, I DON'T THINK IT'S CITIZEN AGAINST CITIZEN AND NEIGHBOR AGAINST NEIGHBOR, I THINK IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT'S ON WEST SIDE OF A1A THAT WOULD AAPPRECIATE TO HAVE ACCESS O THE BEACH ALONG WITH EVERY OTHER ST. JOHNS RESIDENT WHICH IS ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ALLOW ACCESS TO OUR NATURAL RESOURCES WHICH IS WHAT THIS APPLICANT IS TRYING TO DO FROM BAYDAY ONE OF THE REQUEST FROM THE COUNTY AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. IN THE LAST WOULD WEEKS SINCE PZA ASKED FOR APPROXIMATELY 30 FEET OF LAND TO GIVE SOME ACCESS, WE'VE GONE BACK AND TRIPLED THAT IN OUR REQUEST, AND I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE AS WELL AND THE FACT THAT THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST THAB FOUND TO BE APPROPRIATE BY EVERY ONE OF YOUR STAFF DEPARTMENTS, THIS IS APROPERTY AND THE ACCESS THAT WAS REQUIRED AT THE END IS AGAIN, I USE THE WORD BENEVOLENT, PEOPLE MAKE FUN OF HAS BUT IT'S TRUE, THIS OWNER IS GIVING PLANNED LAND O THE COUNTY HAS YOUR STAFF MA FOUND NOT REQUIRED UNDER THE PLANNED PUD. I FEEL LIKE I'M JUGGLING IN THE MID OFL A THREE RING CIRCUS, I'M TRYING TO PLEASE EVERYBODY WHICH YOU ALL KNOW I BRING LOTS OF STUFF BEFORE YOU AND I ALWAYS TRY TO DO THAT, I TRY TO FIND THE BEST COMPROMISE FOR EVERYONE. SOMETIMES THERE IS NO COMPROMISE BUT THIS TIME THERE IS AND THIS APPLICANT IS CAN ASKING FOR AN APPROPRIATE, COMPATIBLE, REASONABLE REQUEST AND IN THE MIDST OF THAT, THEY'RE WILLING TO GIVE A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF PROPERTY TO THE COUNTY TO MOVE FORE WARD THAT WILL SAVE THE COUNTY PROPERTY AND GOING BACK IN CONCLUSION THE TALK ABOUT WHETHER THEY WOULD SELL THIS SOUTHERN PIECE, THEY CAN CLEARLY SELL IT, WE *F THEY CAN'T SAY WE'LL GIVE YOU THE SOUTHERN PIECE TOO, I'M NOT ASKING FOR DUPLEX, NOT ASKING FOR CONDOS OR MULTIPLE UNITS ON EITHER ND, I'M ASKING FOR ONE. WE HAVE BEEN SHOWN AND OUR ENGINEERS HAVE SHOWN US, THIS AMOUNT OF SPACE WILL BE APPROPRIATE FOR A TROLLEY STOP AND THERE WILL BE CONTINGENT ON WHAT DOT SAYS, YOU WILL NOT FIND OUT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THE PANSIES TO SHOW THAT, IT'S AN APPROPRIATE DISTANCE, IF IT'S NOT, YOU CAN ACQUIRE THE LAND AT FAIR MARKET VALUE, THE COUNTY CAN, THIS WILLING OWNER WILL BE WILLING TO SELL TOIT THE COUNTY FOR FAIR MAKT VALUE, BUT THAT SHOULDN'T HOLD UP WHAT WE WANT TO DO TODAY, IT'S COMPATIBLE AND REASONABLE FROM ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM YOUR STAFF. THANK YOU, CHAIR.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, YOU HAVE THE CHAIR. >> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MR.

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DE SOUSA COME TO THE PODIUM LAOEZ.

THERE WERE MULTIPLE QUESTIONS RACED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THAT STRETCH OF A1A AND THE S-CURVE THAT EXISTS FROM SERENADA, MR. DID YOU *F DE SOUSA, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

ER >> DICK DE SOUSA, GROWTH MANAGER.

>> THERE WERE CONCERNS RAISED ABOUT TRAFFIC AND ADDING A PART OF A1A, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RECORD AND HERE IN THE AUDITORIUM, WILL YOU WALK US THROUGH THE FDOT STANDARDS

THAT MAY APPLY TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE. >> ABSOLUTELY, SO DOT WHEN THEY EVALUATE ACCESS LOOK AT THE SPEED OF THE ROADWAY INVOLVED, THE NUMBER OF TURNING MOVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED, THERE THERE WOULD BE AN AUKBACKER AUXILIARY TURN LANE, THEIR THRESHOLD IS VASTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY HAS A MORE RESTRICTIVE THRESHOLD FOR THOSE THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR OWN ROADWAYS, IT IS DIFFERENT FROM DOT'S, IN THIS INSTANCE, DOT LOOKS AT THE PEAK HOUR TURNING RATES FAR FACILITY LIKE THAT, A BEACH PARKING FACILITY WOULD BE TERMED LIKE A PUBLIC PARK TYPE FACILITY, GENERALLY EXTREMELY LOW PEAK HOUR RATES FOR THOSE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARKING THAT WOULD BE OFFERED AND WHAT THAT RATE WOULD BE VERSUS THE TOTALLY DAILY, WHICH IS WHAT THE COUNTY LOOKS AT, YOU WOULD BE BELOW THE 250, OURS IS MUCH MORE RESTRICTED THAN THE DOT'S REQUIREMENT, BASED OFF OF THA, I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO O DOT ABOUT THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, BASED OFF THAT TYPE OF EVIDENCE, LOOKING AT THAT RADIUS, WE'RE ROUGHLY 2 THOUSAND FEET FOR THE RADIUS OF THAT HORIZONTAL CURVE, SO GEOMETRY IS IMPORTANT TO THE DOT, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT HIGHER SPEED ROADS SO THE LARGER THE RADIUS BECOMES, THE GENERALLY SAFER IT BECOMES AT ANY SORT OF HIGHER SPEEDS, SO LOOKING AT THAT, AGAIN, DOT HAS A A MUCH STRICTER STANDARD THAN THE COUNTY HAS WITHIN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SO IF FOR A ROAD OF THIS NATURE IN THE COUNTY, THAT RADIUS WOULD HAVE BEEN AT 500 FEET, WE'RE ROUGHLY AT 2 THOUSAND FEET FOR THE RADIUS OF THIS PARTICULAR CURVE, BOTH THE SOUTH AND THE NORTH ARE SIMILAR CURVES SO FROM A GEOMETRY STANDPOINT, THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE THAT WOULD SAY THIS WOULD BE UNSAFE TO HAVE AN ACCESS POINT THERE OR IT WARRANTS ANYTHING BEYOND THE NORMAL DRIVEWAY CONSIDERING THAT DOT WOULD PUT ON FOR THAT RATE OF SPEED. DOT WOULD LOOK AT A WIDER RADIUS BECAUSE NE EAR ASSUMING PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE COMING AT IT FROM A HIGH R RATE OF SPEED, BUT THAT WOULD GENERALLY BE IT.

>> SO, JUST TO MAKE SURE -- I'M SURE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE PARKING LOT ON THE NORTH OR SOUTH PARCEL THAT WOULD BELOW THE FDOT STANDARDS?

>> IN TERMS OF REQUIRE AGO TURN LANE, YEAH, NOTHING WE COULD FIT ON THERE WOULD

REASONABLY RISE FOR THE TURN LANE. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS.

I BROUGHT A CONTINUANCE WHEN WE WERE APPROVING THE REGULAR GENERAL DA. WE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT DOT ACCESS, WE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT ARMY CORPS ACCESS AS I WAS PREPARING FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM. I WOULD LIKE YOUR THOUGHTS ON BOTH OF THOSE, WHETHER IT'S DOT OR ARMY CORPS AK SAYS -- ACCESS OR ANY OTHER INFORMATION THIS BOARDS NEEDS TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION UP HERE TODAY.

>> A COUPLE OF THINGS, THE FIRST THING I WOULD SAY, NOT EVERY DEPARTMENT AGREES WITH THIS APPLICATION. THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE.

FIRST I WILL TALK ABOUT THE I GUESS COST SHARE FUNDING, THERE'S TWO PIECES TO THIS, IT'S NOT JUST ARMY CORPS FUND, THERE'S ARMY CORP. AND IS STATE FUNDING. YOU HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS ESSENTIALLY THAT ANYBODY CAN GET TO, EITHER A PARKING LOT AND THERE'S MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OR SOME TYPE OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION THAT GETS PEOPLE THERE THAT CAN GET ON THE BEACH AND YOU GET A CREDIT OF A QUARTER MILE OF EACH OF THAT BEACH, THE FEDS SHARE IS THE MORE INCREASED COST BENEFIT. THE STATE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, WHEN WE HEARD A CUP OFL RESIDENTS SAY EVERY FOOT MATTERS, IT DOESN'T MATTER FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE STATE BUT NOT THE FEDS, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S OUT THERE. YOU ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY A 16 MILLION DOLLAR COST SAVE INFUSING WE HAD BOTH ACCESS ON BOTH SIDES, AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF FIGURING OUT EXACTLY WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE, BUT FROM THE ORIGINAL PUD TEXT, THERE

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WERE REQUIREMENT TOS PUT BATHROOM FACILITIES, ALL THESE OTHER THINGS AND THOSE THINGS ARE INCREASE THE COST SHARE FROM THE STATE SIDE, NOT THE FEDERAL SIDE. SO, IF WE KIND OF SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THOSE THINGS AND WE'RE ONLY GOING TO GET LAND AND WE STILL HAVE TO FUND THOSE PROJECTS BECAUSE NOW WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO ACQUIRE THE LAND AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IS NOW ON THE COUNTY, THAT COST SHARE NOW SHRINK, I WANTS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND, JUST BECAUSE WE GET THAT LAND NOW, I DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO CONSTRUCT THE WALK OVER SO, WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AS A WHOLE TO FUND THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND TO PROVIDE THAT ACCESS. AS IT RELATES TO THE LOT SIZES, TODAY'S THE FIRST TIME I'M HEARING ANYTHING ABOUT A SPECIFIC LOT SIZE OR OFFER FOR THE SOUTHERN PORTION, SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT CAN FIT OR CANNOT FIT DOWN THERE.

WE HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT WE'VE USED TO HELP US DESIGN SOME TROLLEY STOPS IN THE SOUTHERN AREA AS WE'RE TRYING TO FIG -- FIGURE OUT OUR COST SHARES. I HAVEN'T PUT THE DESIGN THERE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN MAXIMIZE THERE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S BEING OFFERED IS ACCEPTABLE. SO I WOULD ASK IF YOU WANT, I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AND PROVIDE BETTER CLARIFICATION ON THAT. AS FOR THE TROLLEY STOPS, SPECIFICALLY THAT, THE TROLLEY STOP HAS NOT BEEN AN APPROVE THING YET, WE'RE IN THAT INFANCY OF TRYING TO PUT THAT TOGETHER.

WE KNOW IT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL COST SHARES, NOT JUST FOR THE CURRENT PROJECT, FOR THE FUTURE PROJECTS, SO STHOEZ ARE THINGS WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATION WIDTHS THE BOARD AND RESIDENTS AND EVERYBODY TO THIS LAND WITH THE E GETTING - UNDERSTANDING THERE'S GOING TO BE A TROLLEY STOP, THAT IS AN ASSUMPTION WE'RE GOING TO DO IT T BOARD HAS NOT APPROVED US TO PUT THAT THERE YET.

WE'RE LOOKING AT OPTIONS WHEN I COME BACK TO YOU ABOUT THE FUNDING, THESE ARE YOUR OPTIONS TO HELP TRY TO ALLEVIATE THAT COST SHARE. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS HAS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD AND THE RESIDENTS

KNEW FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE. >> THANK YOU, FROM WHERE I'M SITTING NOW, WE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS TO THE MARCH 24TH MEET, ESPECIALLY WITH COMMISSIONER MURPHY, COULD WE POTENTIALLY BUY IN AN AGREEMENT WITH THE LANDOWNER THE SOUTHERN PARCEL, I WANT TO EXPLORE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE

TOO. >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> I THOUGHT ANN WAS NEXT. >> I'LL GO LAST. >> I KNOW IT'S YOUR SDRIGT BUT I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS, I THINK TURNING DOWN TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT COULD BE WORTH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVEN IF WE BANK IT, EVEN IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT YET RKT I DON'T WANT HIM O GO BACK AND WA*E THE TIME WITH THE OWNER SAYS I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THE TIME TO DEAL WITH THIS, HINTED IT TO BE DONE, I THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE EASY.

WE'RE LOOKING AT LAMP WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY AND NOT BUILD ON IT.

HERE WE HAVE SOMEONE GIVING US THIS PROPERTY SO I'M FOR THIS AND I KNOWER THERE'S ALL THESE OTHER THINGS GOING AROUND BUT I'M HOPING THAT THOSE THINGS GET RACKED UP WITH THEIR OWN STAFF AND DESIGN.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> GREAT, THANK YOU. I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER DEAN, YOUR INPUT THAT YOU SHARED AS WELL, AS WELL AS MR. RASH WHO PROUGTBACKER BROUGHT UP GOOD POINTS. I HEAR ALL THE TIME ABOUT THIS AREA, I HEARD FROM OCEAN GRANDE PEOPLE, I HEARD A FR* A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ALONG THAT BIER AREA, WE NEED TO MAXIMIZE THE BEACH ACCESS THERE. THAT COULD NOT BE ANY CLEARER. AND WE NEEDED IT YESTERDAY AND I THINK THAT'S HAPPENED AT OCEAN GRANDE RESIDENTS IS TERRIBLE, AND THEY BOUGHT THERE FOR A REASON AND NOW THEIR ACCESS HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY SO THAT'S INFURIATING TO ME. I DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE RUSHING INTO THIS. I HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR DR. GIAMMANCO, HE FEELS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT SO ONCE WE DO THIS, THIS IS GOING TO BE PERM NANT, SO I DO NOT IN ANY WAY FEEL COMFORTABLE WAY THINGS ARE AT RIGHT NOW WITH RUSHING THROUGH THIS DECISION UNTIL HE HAS A MUCH BETTER CHANCE OF LOOKING AT IT AND I WOULD LOVE FOR HIM TO ASK, I KNOW WE JUST HEARD FROM MR. WHITEHOUSE YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR TWO YEARS WITH STAFF, WERE YOU INCLUDED, YOU JUST SHARED AN AMAZING PRESENTATION ON HOW WE NEED FUND FOR OUR BEACH. HOW VOLE HAVE YOU BEEN WITH R. WHITEHOUSE IN THIS

DECISION? >> SO, WHEN WE TALKED EARLIER BETWEEN YOU AND MYSELF, I THINK IN NOVEMBER OF 24, IS WHEN THIS ISSUE CAME TO US. WE SENT A A LET TORE THE

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HOMEOWNER REQUESTING THEY DO WHAT'S IN THE PUD AND THAT I THINK IS WHAT TRIGGERED THE MAJOR MOD. SINCE THAT OCCASION, I'VE HAD ONE PHONE CALL AND MORE STAFF REPORT KIND OF TALKING BASICALLY WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT, STATING OUR POSITION THAT WE DISAGREE AND THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD.

>> ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, YOU NEED THE LOOK AT THIS MUCH FURTHER AND WE CANNOT RUSH INTO THIS AT THIS TIME.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.

>> HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK YOU NEED, LET ME ASK THAT? IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO REALLY EXAMINE THIS A BIT MORE, HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU NEED?

>> I DON'T HAVE SOMEONE ON CONTRACT TO LOOK AT THIS, SO I WOULD ASK AT A MINIMUM THREE MONTHS FOR ME TO GO BACK AND GET AN ENGINEER TO LOOK AT THIS AND THEN PROVIDE YOU WITH A BETTER ESTIMATE, IT COULD BE FASTER, I DON'T WANT TO SAY I CAN COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER FOR YOU.

>> I AGREE. >> SO, CAN I THROW SOMETHING IN THERE.

DR. JOE, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE OBVIOUSLY IS WE'RE DELAYING SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY NEED THE TAKE ACTION ON AND SO I'M OKAY WITH PUSHING THIS OFF A LITTLE BIT. MY CHALLENGE IS THAT I'M KIND OF LIKE THE COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, WE'VE GOT A BIRD AND A HEN, SO LET ME JUST ADD, IF THE VOTE GOES TO POSTPONE, I WOULD LOVE TO ALSO DIRECT STAFF TO -- IN OUR NEGOTIATIONS TO FIND OUT WHAT A DECENT ASKING PRICE WOULD BE FOR THAT PROPERTY SO WE COULD MOVE FORWARD TRYING TO BUY IT.

>> IF I MAY, CHAIR, JUST DISH KIND OF HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SOMETHING'S BETTER THAN NOTHING. I TOTALLY AGREE. WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL LOTS IN THE SENSE OF WHAT IS AVAILABLE FOR US. SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY IF WE LOOK AT THE MINIMUM REQUIRED OR MINIMUM LOTS FROM THE REST OF THE PONTE VEDRA LOTS, MAYBE THEY KEEP 75 AND WE LOOK AT THE REST FOR US, I'M THROWING OUT SOME IDEAS, WE'RE NOT HAVING -- WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS AND HEARING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME TODAY, NOT TWO YEARS, THEN THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

>> I WOULD FEEL A WHOLE LOT MORE COMFORTABLE MOVING THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING INSTEAD OF THREE MONTHS FROM NOW BECAUSE WE REALLY NEED TO GET SOMETHING DONE FOR THIS. IS THREE MONTHS LONG ENOUGH STAFF TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE PURCHASE PRICE WOULD BE TO GIVE US AN IDEA?

>> THREE WEEKS? >> THE NEXT MEETING. >> I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE GOING TO THE NEXT TWO, THREE WEEKS, I WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BUT I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION.

>> SORRY, SO, THEN MY DIRECTION WOULD BE TO PROVIDE THE BOARD AS MUCH INFORMATION I CAN BY THE NEXT MEETING ON WHAT WE NEED TO MAXIMIZE THE BENEFIT TO THOSE LOTS, SIZE-WISE, WHAT WE CAN PLACE THERE, AS MUCH AS I CAN GET FOR YOU.

>> THE COUNSEL IS BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TO GET US WHAT WE NEED. I DON'T WANT TO POKE THE GIFT COURSE IN THE MOUTH MUCH LESS LOOK AT IT, SO CAN YOU DO IT IN THREE WEEKS? .

ER I WILL DO MY BEST. >> CAN I ASK FOR THAT. >> I'M SORRY, I DO HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT. FIRST OFF, REMEMBER IF WE DO DELAY THAT, THERE'S NO FUNDING FOR THIS, WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR ANY KIND OF WALK OVER OR ANYTHING, WE'RE GOING TO BE GIVE AGO PLOT OF LAND AND MAYBE PURCHASING MISSION LAND. I THINK WHAT I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IS THAT THIS LENDING COMPANY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WERE GIVEN THIS PROPERTY AS COLLATERAL OR SOMETHING AND -- SO THEY KNEW AT THE TIME WHEN THEY TOOK IT AS COLLATERAL WHAT THOSE TWO LOTS WERE FOR, AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE COST, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT SPENDING MORE MONEY TO PURCHASE MORE AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT ONCE IT'S IN OUR HANDS, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE FUNDS TO MAKE IT VIABLE FOR AN ACTUAL ACCESS POINT TO THE BEACH.

SO, THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS AND IT JUST SOUND LIKE YOU

NEED QUITE A BIT MORE TIME. >> I WILL TRY MY BEST TO GET YOU THOSE ANSWERS.

WE CAN TRY TO USE RANGES INSTEAD OF A HARD NUMBER AND MAYBE I'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE

YOU THAT. >> YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

ER >> THANK YOU, MR. FLOOR, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT WHAT STAFF

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SAYS, IF THEY NEED THREE MONTHS, THEY NEED THREE MONTH AND IS *IP LEGAL HAS QUESTIONS AS WELL. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE AT THIS POINT MAKING DECISIONS SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF A CONTINUANCE.

>> COMMISSIONER TAYLORFINGER YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> I MEAN, I RECOMMEND THAT WE WAIT THE THREE MONTHS. CAN I MAKE A MOTION?

>> YES, PLEASE. ER >> THANK YOU VERY MUCHFINGER CHAIR, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE BRING THIS BACK IN THREE MONTHS, THAT STAFF HAS APPROPRIATE TIME TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THIS AND THESE

TWO END PARCELS AT THIS TIME. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR. >> DOES THAT NEED TO BE CLEAR ?FRJTS YES, THAT NEEDS TO BE A DATE CERTAIN.

>> ONE SECOND, PLEASE. >> CAN YOU HELP WITH THAT. >> IT'S THE FIRST MEETING IN

MAY. MAY 5. >> OKAY.

SO, BASED ON THAT INFORMATION, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION

-- >> THAT'S TWO MONTHS. >> JUNE 2.

>> OKAY, GREAT. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE DELAY THIS ITEM UNTIL STAFF HAS APPROPRIATE TIME TO FURTHER LOOK INTO THIS IN MORE DETAIL AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT AT OUR NEXT MEETING

ON JUNE 2. >> SO, YOU'RE MOVING TO CONTINUE THE MEETING UNTIL

JUNE 2. >> THAT'S THE MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> I CAN SECOND BUT I HAVE A QUESTION. I'LL SECOND IT SO I CAN DISCUSS IT. MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK WE SHOULD SAY NO MORE THAN THREE MONTHS BECAUSE IF WE CAN GET FEEDBACK SOONER, YOU UNDERSTAND --

>> WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO AMEND THAT? >> IF WE CAN GET IT SOONER, ABSOLUTELY, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO BRING US SOMETHING THAT ISN'T COMPLETE, TLA'S JUST MY CONCERN, SO IF WE CAN GET IT IN TWO MONTHS, THAT'S BETTER.

>> SOONER WOULD BE PREFERABLE. >> WE HAVE TO HAVE A DATE. >> DID YOU WANT TO SAY

SOMETHING, NO MORE THAN THREE MONTH ISS THE MOTION. >> THE PROBLEM IS YOU'RE IN A PUBLIC HEARING. WHEN YOU CONTINUE A PUBLIC HEARING, IT HAS TO BE A A DATE CERTAIN BECAUSE WE HAVE PUBLICATION NOTICING AND POSTING PROBLEMS, IF WE DON'T HAVE A DATE CERTAIN AND IT COMES BACK EARLIER, HAS WOULD PUT NUS A POSTURE TO GO BACK OUT AND NOTICE SO THE PUBLIC HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO

PARTICIPATE. >> IF I MAY, ALSO TO GIVE YOU SOME FLEXIBILITY, WE MAY

REQUIRE IT TO BE RENOTICED SO THAT'S AN OPTION FOR YOU TOO. >> AND AGAIN YOU CAN MOVE IT SOONER, AT THAT TIME IF YOU NEED TO CONTINUE, YOU CAN DO IT AS WELL.

SO, YOU COULD BRING IT BACK -- >> THE MOTION IS TO CONTINUE IT TO A LATER DATE AND WE'LL JUST RENOTICE, WE'LL PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA, IS THAT FAIR, THAT WAY WE CAN GO AS FAR AS -- TAKE AS LONG AS WE NEED.

ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? >> SO, WHAT I UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW, WE'LL LEAVE IT AT JUNE 2, IF IT COMES BACK EARLIER,

WE'LL MOVER TO RENOTE IT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANYMORE DISCUSSION?

>> I DO BEFORE WE VOTE. I DO WANT TO CAUTION, IT'S ALWAYS EASY TO THROW PEOPLE IN LIKE THAT, INTO THE GOVERNMENT MACHINE AND I WANT TO TRY TO AVOID, I WANT TO GET GOVERNMENT OUT OF PEOPLE'S POCKETS INSTEAD OF PEOPLE'S POCKETS SO WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT PUTTING PEOPLE

INTO THE GOVERNMENT MACHINE WHERE THEY GET CHEWED UP. >> SINTS'S A CONTINUANCE, MAY I MAKE ONE COMMENT, MR. CHAIR. I WAS GOING TO ASK BECAUSE OF THE WAY NOTICING WORKS, YOU COULD CONTINUE IT FOR ONE MONTH, THEN IF IT'S NOT READY TO COME IN ONE MONTH, PRIOR TO IT COME TOG A HEARING HERE, YOU COULD HAVE IT CONTINUED THROUGH STAFF AND THEN IT COULD BE RENOTICED,.WE CONTINUE IT FOR THREE MONTHS AS A DATE CERTAIN, THEN YOU'RE STUCK AND IT HAS TO BE RENOTICED AND THE COUNTY HAS TO PAY TO HAVE IT RENOEPTSED SO IT'S BETTER TO TO NOTICE -- TO SAY NOW IF YOU SAY IT TO A SPECIFIC DATE, SAY IT WAS THREE WEEKS FROM NOW OR A MONTH FROM NOW, YOU SAY THAT DATE AND IF WE'RE GETTING READY FOR THAT DATE T CHAIR IS GETTING READY AND WE KNOW IT'S NOT READY TO COME THAT DAY BECAUSE THE CHAIR HAS HIS E CONTINUE IT FOR T MONTHS CAMBER DOT IS NOT GOING TO GIVE AN APPROVAL IN THREE MONTHS, WE'LL BE BACK IN THE SAME THING WE'RE DOING TODAY AND AGAIN THIS -- THE PROPOSAL THAT I PUT FORWARD TODAY WITH THE EXTRA LAN, THAT'S NOT PART F THE APPLICATION, THAT WAS TODAY I WAS PUTTING IT ON THE

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TABLE, IT MAY BE DIFFERENT, I'M TRYING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO MOVE IT FORWARD, KAYLIE? >> I DISAGREE.

IF YOU MOVE IT TO A DATE CERTAIN, IT HAS TO APPEAR ON THAT AGENDA, THEN IT WOULD APPEAR ON THAT AGENDA AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO CONTINUE IT.

>> OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT OUR DATE SET FOR CERTAIN? OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION, WE'VE GOT A SECOND, WE'RE CLEAR ON THE MOTION? MADAM CLERK, OKAY, WE'RE CLEAR ON THE MOTION.

LET'S VOTE. OKAY, THAT PASSES 4-1, THANK YOU, LET'S GO TO AGENDA ITEM

[5. Follow-up discussion from Feb 3, 2026, citizen-led presentation on Summer Haven Public-Private Partnership.]

NUMBER 5. >> WE'RE JUST MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

DR. G, GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, AGAIN, JOE JA VER THE COLD BEACH PROGRAM, SO I WANT TO THANK HIM.

[APPLAUSE]. HE WORKED HARD WITH ME ON ALL THE BEACH PROJECTS BUT EVEN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS SPECIFICALLY, SO A LOT OF THIS IS HIS WORK. SO, THE PRESENTATION'S GOING TO BE [INAUDIBLE] BUT THE COMMUNITY ASKS TWO MEETINGS AGO, THE BOARD ASKED ME O COME BACK WITH SPECIFIC DETAILS AND I'LL GO THROUGH ALL THOSE DETAILS WE CAME UP WITH. THE COMMUNITY PLAN, THIS IS WHAT YOU SAW FROM THE RESIDENTS AND THEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB OF REALLY TRYING TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER, SOMETHING EASY TO UNDERSTAND IN THE SENSE OF A SMALLER BITE SIZE PROJECTS INSTEAD OF ONE BIG GIANT ELEPHANT, SO THIS IS WHAT THEY PRESENTED AND IN ORDER TO KIND OF BREAK THIS DOWN FOR US, THEY PUT IT IN THREE DIFFERENT PROJECTS JUST FOR EASE OF GOING THROUGH COUNTY PROJECT MANAGEMENT KIND OF STYLE.

SO, THE FIRST PROJECT IS THE -- BASICALLY IT'S THE DREDGING OF THE RIVER, BASICALLY FROM THE NORTHERN BRIDGE WHERE A1A GOING SOUTH BACK TO THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY, THAT WHOLE OPENING OF THE WATERWAY THERE AND PLACING THAT SAND ON THE BEACH SIDE FROM OLD A1A ACCESS ALL THE WAY UP, SO THAT'S PROJECT ONE, SO PHASE ONE OR PROJECT ONE WE'RE TALK K ABOUT TODAY IS ALL THE PERMITTING, ENGINEERING, DESIGN WORK TO DO THAT. SO, WE NEED TO GET ALL THAT STUFF DONE BEFORE WE CAN DWO TO CONSTRUCTION. SO, WHAT WE DID IS WE WENT OUT TO OUR CONTINUING CONTRACTS AND ASKED FOR THEM TO BASICALLY DO EXACTLY THAT, WE GAVE THEM THE SCOPE OF WORK, THIS CAME BACK CHEAPER THAN WHAT WE WERE BEING PRESENTED FROM WITH THE RESIDENTS WHICH AGAIN THEY DID A GREAT JOB OF PUTTING IT TOGETHER BUT NOW WE HAVE HARD NUMBERS WE CAN SHARE, TAYLOR ENGINEERING CAME OUT AT 112 THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO ALL THE PERMITTING AND ENGINEERING DESIGN AND BASICALLY HAVE THAT COMPLETED WITHIN THREE MONTHS OF NOTICE TO PROCEED OR SO WHEN WE SIGNED THE CONTRACTS IF WE GO DOWN TO NA ROUTE. THE SECOND PART OF OUR REQUEST FROM THE PROCUREMENT WAS TO GIVE US SOME KIND OF BUDGETARY NUMBERS, SO AN IDEA OF WHAT IT WOULD COST TO GO THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PIECE OF IT FROM THEIR SIDE, THE ENGINEERING SIDE OF IT AND SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT, SO SOMEONE'S THERE WATCHING, MAKING SURE IT'S DONE CORRECTLY AS WELL AS SOME POST CONSTRUCTION MONITORING AND ENVIRONMENTAL MONITORING, SO THEIR TOP END NUMBER IS AROUND 153 THOUSAND TO DO THAT WORK, IT COULD BE CHEAPER DEPENDING ON HOW MANY DAYS WE'D HAVE TO BE OUT THERE, WHAT TIMEFRAME OF THE YEAR THIS HAPPENS, THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS, SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU A RANGE.

TODAY'S ASK IS NOT LOOKING AT THAT 340 THOUSAND, IT'S MORE THE 112 THOUSAND IF THE BOARD CHOOSES, SO THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE TO GIVE YOU A BALLPARK, WITHOUT HAVING THE ENGINEER ON STAFF AND GIVING THE HARD ENGINEERING ESTIMATE, WE HAVE BASICALLY KIND OF TWO NUMBERS, WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO SOME OF THE COMMUNITY RESIDENT THAT IS I BELIEVE WE CAN CAN GET THIS DONE FOR ABOUT 7, 8 HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DREDGE THIS RIVER AND N PLACE OF SAND. HOWEVER, I WANTED TO SHARE THE LAST TIME THE PORT DID IT, IT COST THEM 2.8 MILLION DOLLARS, SO IT'S A BIG RANGE, WITHOUT HAVING THAT CONSTRUCTION PROCUREMENT OUT TO COME BACK TO SHOW YOU, I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER, SO IT COULD FALL SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO NUMBERS. IF WE PROCEED WITH THE ENGINEERING DESIGN WORK TODAY, SO IN ABOUT THREE MONTHS FROM NOW, I'LL HAVE THAT HARD

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NUMBER BACK TO YOU SO WE CAN SEE IF WE WANT TO GO DOWN THAT PATH OR NOT. SOME OF THE RECURRING COSTS THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TO GIVE YOU A FULL PICTURE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LAUNCH OR MAINTENANCE OF THIS PROJECT WOULD BE. WE DON'T KNOW, STORM COULD COME THIS YEAR AND KNOCK IT DOWN AND WE'D HAVE TO REPLENISH IT OR REBUILD IT BEFORE IT OPENS UP THE BREACH OR SOME TYPE OF OVERWASH AGAIN.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE JUST NEED TO BE MORE REACTIVE TO SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR FEMA, I THINK WHAT WE DID LAST TIME, WE WAITED FOR FEMA AND WENT THROUGH THAT ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT OF IT.

THE RIVER STAYED OPEN AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW, WE HAVE A FULL BASICALLY FLOODED SAND RIVER. SO, WE JUST NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT IF WE DO, DO THIS AND WE HAVE A STORM, IT OPENS UP, WE WOULD NEED TO REACT QUICKLY TO MINIMIZE NIGH *F ANY FUTURE DAMAGE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE IS THE POINT OF THAT.

SO PROJECT ONE ALSO SOME CHALLENGES, AND I WANTED TO SHOW THIS, WE DON'T -- AS WE GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING AND ENGINEERING DESIGN, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FINAL DESIGN PLAN AND IS ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION AND IS DO ALL THAT STUFF, THOSE ARE SOME CHALLENGES BUT THEY'RE NOT INSURMOUNTABLE, THEY'RE NORMAL CHALLENGES WE HAVE WITH ANY CONSTRUCTION PRONLT, THE SAND PLACEMENT IS DIFFERENT, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO SHOW YOU IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY, THAT'S THE CURRENT ONE WHERE THE WATER IS, THEN THE GREEN SIDE IS THE PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT RED DASHED LINE GOING UP AND DOWN, THAT'S KIND OF A REPRESENTATIVE WAY WHERE THE DUNE IS RIGHT NOW, SOIT'S NOT REPRESENTATIVE. WHAT WE WANT TO DO TO MAKE SURE THE DUNE OR WHATEVER WE PLACE THERE HAS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF PLACEMENT, WE TIE THAT DUNE IN, WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE WOULD NEED TEFP RARE CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS FROM ALL THE RESIDENTS WE WOULD CROSS THEIR PROPERTY AS WELL AS WE WOULD NEED THEM TO GIVE US SOME TYPE OAF A RELEASE OF VIABILITY FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY, WE WOULD BE BLOCKING THAT RIGHT OF WAY AS YOU CAN RECALL LAST TIME WE DID THIS PRONLT OR A SIMILAR PROJECT, BECAUSE THE RIGHT OF WAY WAS THERE, WE MAD TO PUT THE SAND FURTHER EAST AND IT LASTED LESS THAN A MONTH BECAUSE NA'S -- THAT'S WRA WR* THE WATER IS, IF YOU CAN PUSH IT FURTHER WEST, IT HAS MORE SURVIVABILITY, WE WOULD NEED 100% PARTS NATION THIS.

YOU DON'T WANT GAPS ALONG THE WAY AND YOU HAVE BASICALLY WEAK SPOTS WHERE THE WATER WILL COME IN AND DO DAMAGE BEHIND. WE WOULD NEED THOSE THINGS IN ORDER TO HAVE A GOOD, STRONG DUNE SYSTEM. PROJECT TWO IS IN TWO PHASES, PHASE ONE IS ENGINEERING, PHASE TWO IS CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS THE PERMITTING ENGINEERING AND DESIGN OF A SEA WALL, THIS IS WHERE THE RESIDENTS WANTED TO PUT A SEA WALL WHERE THE HOME ARES TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF WHERE THE BREACH HAPPENS, SO FROM OLD A1A UP TO THE -- YOU CAN SEE THE LAST COUPLE OF HOUSES THERE.

IT'S NOT EXACT RIGHT NOW, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THE FINAL HOME IS, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT 2 IS. SO, THE COST OF PROPOSED PROJECT 2 FOR THE PERMITTING ENGINEERING DESIGN, WE WENT OUT TO FIVE DIFFERENT FIRM AND IS WE HAD TAYLOR COME IN AS THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE BIDDER, THEY THINK THEY CAN CAN FWET THIS DONE WITHIN 12 MONTHS OF US SIGNING A CONTRACT WITH THEM. I LEARNED THAT FLAGLER COUNT I DID SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS WHERE THEY WERE ABLE TO GET A BURIED SEA WALL IN, IT TOOK THEM TWO YEAR TOS GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO GET IT, SO I AM MORE HOPEFUL, IPG IT'S -- I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MORE TIME BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. FROM THE BUDGET ESTIMATES FOR PHASE TWO OF THIS PROJECT ONE AREA OF THE CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT, SINCE WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO BE, WE DON'T KNOW THE MATERIALS, WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO BE PLACED OR WHAT AREA IT'S GOING TO BE IN, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO GIVE YOU A HARD NUMBER RIGHT NOW. WE KNOW THERE WILL BE SOME CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT COST AND THERE WILL BE MONITORING COSTS ALONG THE WAY FOR THAT PROJECT.

THE SUMMER HAVEN RESILIENCY COALITION CAME UP AT 3.5 MILLION DOLLARS TO DO THAT CORRECTION PROJECT THA,'S THEIR NUMBER, WITH THE PHASE ONE OF THE PERMANENT ENGINEEING DESIGN FROM TAYLOR, THEY WOULD GIVE US AN ESTIMATE COST, WE WOULD KNOW

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A HARDER NUMBER OF WHAT THAT GOES FOR, THE CONSTRUCTION NUMBER, SO I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER TODAY, I CAN GIVE YOU WHAT THEY PROVIDED. RECURRING COSTS AGAIN ON THIS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LONG TERM MAINTENANCE OF THIS IS GOING TO BE, WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE NEEDS TO BE SAND ON TOP OF THE SEA WALL OR WHATEVER THE MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO BE OF THIS SEA A WALL, IF YOU CAN THINK OF NORTH PONTE VEDRA AND THE GEOTUBES THESHS HAVE TO BE COVERED AT THREE FEET OF SAND AT ANY GIVEN TIME. WE DON'T KNOW NA'S GOING TO HAVE SOME CIVIL REQUIREMENT, WE WILL HAVE TO PLACE SAN ON IT EVERY TIME THEY'RE EXPOSED SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THERE ARE SOME RECURRING COSTS THAT ARE IS JUST UNKNOWN FOR NOW.

I'M MORE HOPEFUL THAT THIS COULD HAPPEN BASED ON FLAGLER COUNTY.

WE HAVE BASICALLY FLAGLER COUNTY IS OUR DAMON'S REPLACEMENT DOWN THERE CAME DOWN HERE, WE HAVE AN INSIDER ON HOW THIS IS GOING TO GET DONE.

ONE THING I WANT TO MENTION AS WE STILL HAVE THAT MANAGER TREE GOING THROUGHOUT THERE AND BYLINING PROPERTY THAT NORTHERN PIECE WEBSINGER DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT NORTHERN LINE IS GOING TO BE, I PUT THIS BULLET IN THERE SO THE BOARD UNDERSTOOD, IF WE OWN ANY PROPERTIES WITHIN THAT AREA, WE'RE AT THE END AND WE NEED TO PUT THAT WALL AROUND THERE, IT WOULD BE ON THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR OUR PORTION OF THAT WALL, SO I WANTED TO KIND OF THROW ALL COSTS THAT COULD BE OUT THERE SO YOU KNEW THAT.

SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS AGAIN FOR THIS ONE IS THE SAME AS THE PROJECT ONE, WE WITH NEED 100% PARTICIPATION BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT ANY MISSING AREAS OR GAPS. WE WOULD NEED 1 MUST BESINGER % OF THE RELEASE OF LIABILITY SO WE CAN VACATE OLD A1A SO IT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR US ANYMORE AND AGAIN 100% OF PARTICIPATION IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

SO PROJECT READ IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, I COULD NOT PROVIDE AN ESTIMATE IN THE PERMITTING AND ENGINEERING DESIGN BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THIS PROJECT WHICH IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE, THE RENDERING, IT'S THE ROCKS ON THE -- I GUESS THE EAST SIDE OF THE RIVER. WHEN WE DID NORTH SUMMER HAVEN TO GIVE YOU A COMPARISON, THAT PROJECT WAS NORTH OF 16 MILLION DOLLARS WITH THE ROCKS ALREADY THERE, SO THIS IS A PROJECT MORE IN THAT BALLPARK TO DO THAT CONSTRUCTION SITE, SO WITH PROCUREMENT RULES, I CAN'T GO TO OUR CONTINUING ABLGT CONTRACT TO GIVE YOU A NUMBER, SO IF THE BOARD WANTS ME TO CONTINUE THAT PATH, I CAN AND I'LL KIND OF BE AT THE ASK AT THE END AND THEN I CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH MORE HARD NUMBERERS ON WHAT THAT WOULD COST. AGAIN, SO THIS IS BASICALLY BECAUSE OF THE CONSULTANT'S COMPETITION ACT, THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO GO OUT TO AN RFQ. I WANT -- I WANTED TO BRING THIS BECAUSE IT'S HARD IN THE PROJECT AREA, PROJECT ONE IS IN RED, DREDGING OUT THE RIVER, PLACING IT ON THE SAND ON THE BEACH, IT COSSETS 112 THOUSAND AND CHANGE FROM THE ENGINEERING ESTIMATE, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING IDENTIFIED RIGHT NOW FOR THAT COST THAT'S OUTSIDE COUNTY.

THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NORTHERN SECTION WOULD BE BASICALLY -- THINK OF THE CUT SAND WOULD BE TRANSFERRED ON THE BEACH SIDE WHERE THE COUNT I THE OWNS MOST OF THE BEACHES OUT THERE.

THERE ARE PRIVATE LOTS BUT WE OWN QUITE A BIT OF LOTS OUT THERE.

I HAD NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING HATING I COULD PROVIDE OUTSIDE OF COUNTY FUNDING. THE SOUTHERN SECTION OF THIS, THE RESIDENTS OF OLD A1A HAVE FLEDGED SHY OF 300 THOUSAND DOLLARS TO HELP WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS, THEY WOULD PULL THE SANDBACKER SAND OUT OF THE RIVER AREA AND PLACE IT ON THE BEACH. THIS IS ALL PROJECT ONE, SO I BROKE IT UP THIS WAY SO YOU CAN SEE THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE COST AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW RESIDENTS SHOWED IT, THEIR PHASE, 1, 2 OF THIS DAY BUT IT'S REALLY ONE PROJECT, THE FUNDING COMES FROM TWO DIFFERENT PIECES. SO PROJECT 2 IS THE SEA WALL, 274 THOUSAND, THERE IS NO FISSIONAL FUNDING OUTSIDE OF COUNTY FUNDING THAT COULD BE USED, I FOUND. HOWEVER, THERE POTENTIALLY COULD BE AN MSTU OR MSBU THAT COULD HELP ASSIST WITH THE FUNDING OR THE LONG TERM MAINTENANCE OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE RECURRING COSTS, AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WRA WAH

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THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. PROJECT 3 IS SAME AS PROJECT 2 IN THAT SENSE, THERE'S NO CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS SO THAT COULD IDENTIFY TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THE RFQ PROCESS, NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING O*UT THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW, BUT MSTOMSBU COULD BE USED IF THE BOARD DIRECTED US AS FUTURE ROUNDING -- FUNDING FOR THAT PROJECT. THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER STUFF THEY'VE DONE, THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF GREAT STUFF AND A LOT OF MONEY PUT INTO IT SO FAR, THEY HAVE PLEDGED AN ADDITIONAL 298 DOLLARS FOR THAT CONSTRUCTION DIG, THEY ALSO HAD AN MSTU OF JUST UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS, HOWEVER, THE MSTU SHOULD BE USED FOR THE PEOPLE THAT PUT INTO THE MSTU, SO THEY BENEFIT THOSE FOLKS SOIT'S NOT A BLANKET FUNDS TO USE FOR ANY OF THE PROJECTS DOWN THERE. THEY ALSO HAVE -- AGAIN, I TALKED EARLIER, A LOT OF STUFF THEY HAVE DONE, THEY BROUGHT IN SUL CANTS TO HELP THEM BRING IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO LOOK FOR THE CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS. WHAT I HEARD FROM THE BOARD IS TRY TO FIND SOME COSTS AND SOME OPTIONS SO RIGHT NOW THERE REALLY IS NOTHING OUTSIDE OF WHAT I SHOWED YOU FOR THE CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS FOR ANY PERMITTING ENGINEERING DESIGN WORK AND THERE'S REALLY NO CONSTRUCTION ON THE OVERALL EXCEPT THAT 298 THOUSAND FOR THE WALL ITSELF AND THEN RECURRING COSTS, SO THE OPTIONS THAT WE SAT DOWN WITH SOME OF THE COUNTY STAFF IS THAT THE MST, CURRENTLY IS FOR THE RESIDENT T ON OLD A1A FOR THAT PORTION OF THE BEACH. HOWEVER AN MSTU OR MSBU, YOU CAN LOOK AT RIDE HATING NET TO EVERYBODY ON THAT WHOLE AREA IF WE CHOSE TO AND THAT COULD HELP FUND ALL THOSE PROJECTS BECAUSE ALL THOSE RESIDENTS BENEFIT FROM ALMOST ALL THOSE PROJECTS. THERE'S MORE DIRECT BENEFIT FOR SOME THAN OTHERS BUT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BENEFIT AS WE HEARD FROM THEM MANY TIMES, THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT FLOODING AND OTHER THINGS, THEY'RE WORRIED THE HOUSE IS FALLING BECAUSE THE RIVER IS NOT FLOWING IN THAT COUNTERCURRENT, THERE'S BENEFIT TO ALL THE RESIDENTS DOWN THERE. IF THE BOARD WANTED US TO, WE COULD EXPLORE THOSE OPTIONS AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU. SO, KIND OF REALLY MY LAST HE COMMUNITY WAS ASKING MONTH AGO, THIS IS BASICALLY HOW IT'S BREAKING DOWN, PROJECT 1 IS GETTING THAT ENGINEERING DESIGN WORK DONE FOR 112 THOUSAND, THE BURIED SEA WALL AND THAT PERMIT ENGINEERING WALL FOR THAT 274, THIS IS MORE IF THE BOARD WANTS ME TO LOOK FOR OR DO THAT RFQ PROJECT FOR THE PROJECT, I CAN, AND I COME BACK TO THE BOARD AT EVERY INTERVAL SO YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE SPENDING AND WHAT THE PROJECT COSTS ARE, SO WE WOULD COME BACK AT THOSE INTERVALS AND PROVIDE THOSE INFORMATION FOR YOU. WITH THAT, I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION, DO YOU HAVE 100% PARTICIPATION FOR PROJECT ONE?

>> I HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO EVERY RESIDENT MYSELF, TALKING TO EVERY COMMUNITY RESIDENT, THEY TELL ME I CAN GET 100%. [INAUDIBLE].

>> I WOULD LOOK FOR SOME LEGISLATIVE HELP TO DO SOL OF THE STATE FUNDING PIECES BUT

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THEY ARE VERY HELPFUL. I THINK WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING IS THAT THE BOARD

DIRECTS US O DO THAT. >> OKAY, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ASK.

DO WE NEED PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS? >> AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT ALLOCATING MONEY, YOU DON'T NEED PUBLIC COMMENT. ARE YOU MAKING A DECISION?

>> YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE TO DIRECT STAFF, ALL THE STAFF TO LOOK AT FUNDING SOURCES FOR THIS PLAN.

YOU KNOW, -- >> ONE OF THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT THIS IS TO ME HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, THE PEOPLE OF SUMMER HAVEN HAVE WORKED TOGETHER AND PUTTING HAWKER OWN MONEY IN, THEY PUT THIS PLAN IN PLACE AND THEY NEED OUR HELP.

THEY CAN'T DO THIS WITHOUT THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT FIRST SAYING YES AND THEN TAKING THAT TO THE SATE AND THEN TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. NOTHING MOVES FORWARD UNTIL WE AS A COUNTY SAY WE WANT TO HELP. I THINK THAT IF WE ARE AGGRESSIVE WITH OUR PROPOSALS FOR GRANTS, I THINK WE CAN GET THIS FUNDED WITHOUT GOING TO THE TAXPAYERS AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE MOVE FORWARD TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO DO THAT, SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION OR ASK FOR CONSENSUS TO DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK FOR FUNDING SOURCES FOR PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2 OF THIS PROJECT, OR THE PLANNING FOR PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2 OF THIS PROJECT.

NO CONSENSUS, OKAY, WELL LET ME MAKE A MOTION, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK FOR FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING SOURCES TO CONTINUE THIS PROJECT.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS COME TO FRUITION THROUGH FEDERAL GRANTS AND STATE DOLLARS, SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT. DO I HAVE A SECOND?

OKAY, NO SECOND, THEN THAT -- >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR RECOGNIZING ME.

THERE IS PUBLIC BENEFIT SO I WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT I FEEL LIKE NEEDS TO BE MADE, IF WE DON'T DREDGE THIS RIVER, WE ARE GOING TO START LOSING HOMES. WE HAVE TO TRY SOMETHING TO GET THAT RIVER FLOWING AGAIN, THAT'S ONE, TWO, THERE ARE A LOT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO DRIVE DOWN TO WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS THIS HIDDEN LITTLE GEM F YOU GO DOWN TO THE SUMMERTIME, IT IS COVERED UP WITH RESIDENTS WHO ARE NOT RESIDENTS OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. THERE IS PUBLIC BENEFIT SO I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WE CAN'T USE ANY RESIDENT TAX DOLLARS TO AT LEAST DO THE P, D AND E, I THINK SPENDING UNDER 400 THOUSAND DOLLARS TO GIVE THIS A CHANCE, THERE'S NO QUESTION WE NEED STATE AND FEDERAL FUND TOG DO THE CONSTRUCTION, NOBODY'S ARGUING THAT, WE CANNOT PUT THE BURDEN ON THE RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO CONSTRUCT THESE PROJECTS, NO QUESTION IN MY MIND, WE HAVE TO G*I A CHANCE TO FOLKS DOWN THERE, I WOULD LIKE O SEE US USE GENERAL FUNDS TO DO THE P, D AND E AND THEN TASK STAFF TO GO OUT FOR AN RFQ FOR PROJECT 3, THAT WOULD BE MY DESIRE, IF I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. I WANT TO OFFER THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

>> I WITHDRAW MY MOTION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE USE GENERAL FUNDS TO FUND PROJECT 1 AND 2 FOR PEE DPEE AND THE D AND WE DIRECT STAFF TO GO OUT FOR PROJECT 3, AND KNOWING WE NEED FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING TO CONSTRUCT THESE PROJECTS.

>> OKAY, I WOULD SECOND THAT. >> SO, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.

NOW WE NEED TO GO TO -- ANYONE ELSE, NOW WE NEED TO GO TO

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> LET'S DO THAT. >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE

PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, COME ON UP. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M DENISE COCHRAN, 283BERATERIA DRIVE, THE CHAIR OF THE SUMMER HAVEN RESILIENCY COALITION, FIRST WE WNT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONER BOARD FOR ADDRESS THING EROSION HISSES EWES, WE SINCERELY BELIEVER THE SUMMER HAVEN AREA, BEACHES ARE A HUGE THE CITIZENS AND THE VISITORS TO THE THIS VERY UNIQUE ECOSYSTEM WHICH OFFERS RECREATIONAL, EDUCATIONAL AND NATURE VIEWING OPPORTUNITIES. IT IS A VERY SPECIAL MARINE

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HABITAT WE NEED TO SAVE. AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF SHREC, WE ENDORSE THE PROJ THAT IS WAS PUT BEFORE YOU AND IT ALIGNS WITH THE FIRST STEPS OF THE SUMMER HAVEN ADAPTATION PLAN WITH OUR DETERMINATION O REACH A PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR THE EROSION, FLOODING AND DEGRADATION TO THE SUMMER HAVEN AREA. OUR ORGANIZATION IS COMMITTED TO ASSIST YOU IN FINDING THOSE FUNDING RESOURCES.

WE WANT TO ENSURE THE FULL ADAPTATION PLAN IS REACHED. WE HAVE NO EXPECTATION THAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO PAY FOR THIS.

WE BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE ARE VERY APPROPRIATELY ELIGIBLE FOR. WE LOOK FORWARD TO PARTNERING WITH THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THIS RESILIENCY PLAN IS SUCCESSFUL. IT WILL CREATE A VERY VALUABLE PUBLIC SPACE FOR FISH, KAYAKING, SWIMMING, ALL KINDS OF NATURE VIEWING, WHICH WILL BRING JOY TO COUNTY RESIDENTS, IT WILL BRING TOURFISTING -- TOURIST DOLLARS TO THE COUNTY TO THE BENEFIT OF THE ENVIRONMENT. THIS RESTORATION PLAN WILL HELP THE AREA.

SINGING A PROACTIVE RESILIENCY APPROACH WILL SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY IN THE LONG RUN. IT WILL PROTECT AND CONSERVE COASTAL WETLANDS, THE RIVER, THE BEACH AND IS INCREASE THE WATER QUALITY AND RAOE YAIT HEALTHY MARINE HABITATS.

MANY THE PAST, WE HAVE HAD NOTHING BUT A REACTIVE APPROACH WHICH HAS CAUSED GREAT DELAYS WHICH INCREASED COSTS TREMENDOUSLY AND IT WASS ALWAYS INADEQUATE PROPERTIES, USING PROPER CONTOURING WITH ADVANCED VEGETATIVE PROTOCOLS CAN PRESERVE THE BEACH AND IS CREATE A UNIQUE PUBLIC PARK AND CONSERVATION SPACE TO BE ENJOYED FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORK WITCHING THE COUNTY, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US O COLLABORATE WITH YOUR STAFF AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO FOR THE BEP FIT NOT JUST FOR SUMMER AVENGER BUT FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. ER >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> BRIAN LOVE, 9417 [INAUDIBLE], I'M PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, I'M ENCOURAGED BY THIS PARTNERSHIP. I THINK I KNOW WE CAN GET TARTED DRAFTING ORGANIZATIO LETTERS TO MAINTAIN THE PRIVATE ENTRANCE. I'M CONFIDENT IN THE 700 THOUSAND DOLLAR ESTIMATE TO DIG THE RIVER, THAT PLEDGE FROM OUR COMMUNITY IS VERY REAL WHICH HELPS OFFSET THE ENGINEERING COST THAT YOU HAVE GOTTEN FROM TAYLOR.

THIS SMALL 360 THOUSAND DOLLAR COMMITMENT FROM THE COUNTY GIVES YOU ALL A 48 ACRE PUBLIC PARK, RESILIENCY TO THE SUMMER HAVEN COMMUNITY AND THE ABILITY TO MOVER FORWARD IN A LONGSTANDING RELATIONSHIP WE'VE GARNERED, SHREC HAS MET WITH CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T PUT THE FULL BURDEN ON THE COUNTY, WE NEED THIS ?AUL START TO GET THIS GOING AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST

FOR THAT MOTION. THAT'S ALL. >> THANK YOU.

NEXT, GOOD AFTERNOON. >> HI, I'M LYNETTE HENDRICKS, 9147 JUNE LANE, SUMMER AISLE -- ISLAND. I GO TO THE BEACH EVERY SINGLE DAY AND I OFTEN RUN INTO VISITORS FROM, YOU KNOW, PALM COAST OR LIKE WE SAID, DEFINITELY NOT JUST RESIDENTS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA AND I HAVE ALSO HEARD MORE THAN ONCE FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOOKED AT THIS AREA, THEY'RE JUST BLOWN AWAY ABOUT HOW SPECIAL IT IS AND THEY SAY IN THE CONTEXT OF LOOKING TO RETIRE AND THEY'VE BEEN ALL OVER FLORIDA LOOKING AT PLACES AND THIS REALLY JUMPS OUT AS A REALLY SPECIAL AREA, SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY AND I APPRECIATE GOOD WILL AND EFFORTS BY THE COUNTY AND THE STAFF. I THINK THAT IF THIS GOES FORWARD, HISTORY WILL SMILE ON YOU, SPECIFICALLY FOR YOUR DECISIONS HERE, SO I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON.

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, LINDA GENN, FRIENDS OF THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER, 9051 JEAN JOHNSON ROAD. I WOULD LIKE THE THANK COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST FOR HIS MOTION AND DAMON DOUGLAS FOR ALL HIS HELP OVER THE YEARS.

HE'S BEEN INVALUABLE TO US AND WE WILL MISS HIM.

RESTORING THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER, REBUILDING THE DUNE SYSTEM, FINDING A PERMANENT SOLUTION WHICH WE DON'T EXPECT THE COUNTY TO PAY FOR, I WANT TO ECHO THAT, WE JUST NEED YOUR HELP GETTING STARTED. A PERMANENT SOLUTION WHICH WE BELIEVE WILL HELP ONE OF THE BEAUTIFUL AREAS IN THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA IS A WIN, WIN SITUATION. IF YOU LIKE TO FISH, CATCH BAIT, KAYAK, PADDLE BOAT, SWIM, AND USE A PUBLIC PARK WITH BOAT LAUNCH ACCESS IS A WIN FOR YOU. IF YOU FEEL THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY NEEDS MORE AREAS FOR RECREATION, RESTORING THE RIVER IS A WIN FOR YOU. IF YOU CARE ABOUT NURSERIES FOR SEA TURTLES, FISHERY, MANATEES, DOLPHIN AND OTHER MAR INE ANIMALS AS WELL AS BIRDS AND WILDLIFE EXERT STORING THE RIVER IS A WIN FOR YOU. IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WATER QUALITY SH WETLANDS, THE MOST DIRECT FLUSHING OF ME TANZ ISS INSET A WIN FOR YOU, IF YOU SUPPORT AQUA CULTURE, PADDLE BOARD INSTRUCTOR, FISHING GUIDES, TACKLE SHOPS, PROFESSIONAL ANGLERS AND YOU LIKE TO EAT LOCAL OYSTERS AND CLAMS WHICH WE BELIEVE ARE THE BEST AROUND, THEN RESTORING THE RIVER IS A WIN FOR YOU.

IF YOU CARE ABOUT PRESERVING LOCAL HISTORY, SUMMER HAVEN HAS A RICH HISTORY DATING BACK TO THE 1800'S, IT INCLUDES FAMOUS VISITORS SUCH AS MARJORY COMMAND RAWLINGS AND GENE JOHNSON, THE LOCAL LEGEND BOTH OF WHOM ARE CLOSELY RELATED TO THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER, THEN PRESERVING AND PROTECTING IT IS A WIN FOR YOU. LETTING THE RIVER FLOW IS LETTING NATURE TAKE ITS COURSE AS IT HAS FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS. WE'RE CALLED TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF WHAT WE EAVE BEEN GIVEN FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS AND SAVING THIS PRISTINE AREA WILL BE A BLESSING TO OUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN AND THAT IS A ULTIMATE WIN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS DANIELLE WONG, I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY.

I CAN -- CAN'T ADD BUT I'M EXCITED TO GO TELL MY CHILDREN THERE'S HOPE FOR THEIR RIVER SO I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. >> HOWDY, MY NAME'S JEFF FOX, 586PISCOTO DRIVE HERE IN ST. AUGUSTINE, I FIRST CAME TO THE CRESCENT BEACH AREA IN 1968 WHILE A JUNIOR AT UF, MY FUTURE WIFE AND I DROVE MY VW WITH THE SURF BOARD ON TOP TO THE BEACH WITH JUST ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY BEER AND FOOD FOR THE WEEKEND, THEN WE SPENT THE NIGHTS ON THE BEACH. IT WAS EITHER GO TO THE BEACH ON THE WEEKEND OR STUDY CHEMISTRY OR PHYSICS, IT WAS AN EASY CHOICE BACK THERE, IT WAS BEFORE THE CHAINSAW MASSACRE MOVER VIES CAME OUT AND WE HADN'T SLEFT TON BEACH SINCE.

MY FAMILY HAS LOVED TH* THAT AREA SINCE THAT TIME. MY SON CAUGHT HIS FLOUNDER IN THE SUMMER RIVER BACK THEN, NOW HE'S 52 YEARS OLE. WE BOUGHT A CONDO IN SUMMER HOUSE IN 1982 WHEN WE PURCHASED A ONE ACRE LOT ACROSS FROM A PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS ONE MILE NORTH OF MATANZAS INLAND AND BUILT A HOME THERE.

IT WAS PART OF OUR RECREATION EFFORTS IN THOSE TIMES AND WOULD BE NOW IF IT WAS FLOWING. THERE ARE VERY FEW AREAS IN FLORIDA WHERE THE BAY SIDE AND THE ATLANTIC OCEAN ARE WITHIN 30 YARDS OF EACH OTHER.

YOU COULD GO TO THE BEACH SAFELY BY BOAT. MY FAMILY AND I WHOLE HEART TLI SUPPORT THE RESTORATION OF A VIBRANT FLOWING SUMMER RIVER AND AFTER A 20 YEAR WAIT, WE ENCOURAGE DWROU -- YOU TO DO

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THE SAME AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY. THANK YOU.

. ER THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS

AT THIS TIME, COME ON UP. GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONERS, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY AND TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THE RESTORATION OF THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER.

MYSELF, MY NAME IS JAY GENN, I'M LINDA'S HUSBAND WHO ALREADY SPOKE WITH FRIENDS OF THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER, WE'VE WORKING SINCE THE ORIGINAL BREACH OCCURRED AND THE RIVER BACK IN 2008 TO BRING THIS RIVER BACK TO FLOWING LIKE IT SHOULD.

THE HISTORY OF MYSELF AND MY FAMILY, SOME THIRD GENERATION FROM SUMMER HAVEN, MY GRANDPARENTS CAME OVER IN 1918 AND BUILT ONE OF THE FIRST HOUSES ALONG THE BEACH. MY PARENTS, NOW MY GENERATION, I HAVE LONG LOCAL KNOWLEDGE, INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE OF THE FLOWS OF THE WATER, THE DEPTHS, THE BEACHES AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS. I'M NOT A NEWCOMER TO THE AREA, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO FOCUS ON MCER ATANZAS INLET FOR WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY RIGHT NOW, FOR MANY YEARS, WE WERE BIG FISHERMEN WEBSINGER STILL FISH, AND WE WOULD GO OUT AND FISH JUST OUTSIDE THE ME TAN SA'S INLET BEACH, THERE WAS AN INLET CREATED BY THE FLOW OF THE RIVER.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO FISH RIGHT AT LOW TIDE BECAUSE THE FLOW WAS SO STRONG THAT YOUR BAY COULDN'T GET TO BOTTOM, YOU WOULD PUT A -- WE HAD TO PUT A LARGE SINKER TO GET ON TO BOTTOM F AFTER THE BREACH HAPPENED IN 2008 AND 2009, WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW THE DAMAGE THAT WAS GOING TO CAUSE TO THE AREA. IT WAS A SLOW UNDERSTANDING OF THE SILTING OF THE RIVER, NO ONE KNEW THE RIVER WAS GOING THE SILT, THAT WAS THE PROBLEM. BUT WE WENT OUT FISHING ONE DAY SHORTLY THEREAFTER, PUT ON A LARGE SINKER, SO MY LINE WOULD GET TO BOTTOM AS ALWAYS, THAT WE DID FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND I DIDN'T NEED IT. SO I PUT ON A SMALLER SINKER TO GET IT TO BOTTOM AND THAT HELD JUST FINE. AND WHAT THAT TOLD ME TELEVISING'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT HERE, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THE METANZA'S INLET USED TO BE AN INLET WRA IT WAS AN EBB TIDE OR A FORCE OF WATER GOING OUT DUE TO THE SUMMER CHAIRMEN RIVER AND THE WONDERFUL DRAINAGE PUSHED THE SAND OUT AND CREATED A DELTA OUT IN FRONT EAST OF THE BRIDGE, A SAND BAR. AFTER THE RIVER STOPPED FLOWING, THE SAND GOT SUCKED IN AND THAT WAS SILTED IN, THE NLET CAUSING ALL THESE EROSION PROBLEMS AND OTHER PROBLEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> MY NAME'S WALTER [INAUDIBLE] I LIVE IN ST. AUGUSTINE, I FIRST SPAOEFRNSED THE SUMMER CHAIRMEN RIVER IN 1981 SO AO*IF BEEN GOING THERE EVER SINCE. AND I'VE BEEN WATCHING THE RIVER AND THIS RESTORATION, MANY RESTORATION PROJECTS FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS. EVERYBODY HERE I THINK IS IN AGREEMENT, WE'D ALL LOVE TO SEE THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER BACK TO WHAT IT WAS.

I THINK THE QUESTION IS WHEN DO WE ADMIT WE CAN'T DO THAT. WE'VE TRIED IT SO MANY TIMES.

WE SPENT SO MUCH MONEY, WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE THIS NEXT TIME, I WAS DUMBFOUNDED TO SEE IT BEING PROPOSED AGAIN, TO ME IT'S LIKE WORTH REPEATING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THIS ATTEMPT TO PUT THE RIVER BACK BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER IS HOW IS IT GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THIS TIME? WHAT'S GOING TO KEEP THE OCEAN OUT OF THE RIVER THIS TIME? THAT'S A REALLY BASIC QUESTION THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED BEFORE MONEY IS SPENT GUN. -- AGAIN. SO, I WOULD URGE YOU TO DO THAT AGAIN, THANK YOU. . ER THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GOOD A AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, DORIS TAYLOR, ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH.

I WANT TO FOLLOW THIS COMMENT BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF YEARS LIVING ON AND NEAR THE BEACHES UP NORTH AND IN CONNECTICUT AND IN THE ISLANDS, I HAVE

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SEEN AND BEEN INVOLVED WITH BEACH REPLENISHMENT PROGRAMS AND I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE WONDER THE SAME THING, SHOVELING SAND AGAINST THE TIDE COMES TO MIND, YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER. WHERE'S THE REAL SOLUTION? WHERE'S THE LONG TERM THINKING? BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY EXPENSIVE AND THIS IS NOT A FIX, THIS IS A TEMPORARY MEASURE.

MOTHER NATURE IS VERY POWERFUL AND SHE IS RELENTLESS.

SO, IF THIS IS ALL YOU DO, YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TAXPAYER MONEY AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.

THERE ARE AREAS THAT HAVE IMPLEMENTED LONG TERM PLANNING SOLUTIONS THAT WORK, ONE BEACH THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH PLANTED SEAGRASS ALONG THE BEACH AT A 90 DEGREE ANGLE TO THE SHORE AND OVER TIME IT CAUSED THE SAND DRIFT TO COLLECT AND FILL IN AND SO THEY WOULD FILL UPSTREAM IF YOU WILL BECAUSE THERE'S A NATURAL SAND DRIFT AND THEN OVER THE YEARS IT FILLED IN. IT TOOK SOME TIME BUT IT WAS MUCH BETTER THAN JUST BRINGING IN SAND AND DREDGING EVERY FEW YEARS, SO PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT SOME LONGER TERM PLANS.

ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND OUR TAX MONEY, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS MILL LA*RD PATE, I LIVE AT [INAUDIBLE] JOHNSON ROAD, I'VE BEEN COMING TO SUMMER HAVEN SINCE 1976, IT WAS OUR GO-TO SPOT FROM GAINESVILLE FOR RECREATION, I CAME AFTER RETIREMENT IN 2017 TO ESTABLISH A PERMANENT RESIDENCE AND BECOME PART OF THE SOLUTION WITH TAXES PAID HERE.

I WANT TO BRING FORTH THE POINT THAT WHAT THE GROUP HAS PUT FORWARD IS A MORE LONG TERM SOLUTION IF YOU FOLLOW THROUGH AND YOU CAN FIND THE FUNDING.

I THINK PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS ARE THE FUTURE OF HOW COUNTY GOVERNMENT, STATE GOVERNMENT AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD WORK.

THERE'S ONE ISSUE THAT I DIDN'T HEAR BROUGHT UP, THE PELSER CREEK, THE FLUSHING OF THAT IS ALL GREAT, BUT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE MONITORED A 10-16 INCH DIFFERENCE IN WHAT HAPPENS DURING KING TIDES AND ESPECIALLY DURING STORMS. IF YOU HAVE A NOR'EASTER OR A WIND THAT'S PUSHING TOG THE SOUTH, THE WATER NOW RISES 10-16 INCHES HIGHER AT MY PROPERTY BECAUSE IT CANNOT FLUSH ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER OUT TO THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY AND THAT ALSO HELPS US TO KEEP THE QUALITY OF WATER IN THE PELSER CREEK AREA IN NOT DETERIORATING WAY IT IS NOT.

SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO MOVE FORWARD, LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE AND I THANK ALL YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR EFFORTS IN THAT DIRECTION.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR. >> ANYONE ELSE?

GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M ERIC [INAUDIBLE], 283BERATERI DRIVE, I GREW UP IN A MARINE ESTUARY ON WEST COAST IN TAMPA BAY AND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. I HAD AN IE -- A GREAT CHILDHOOD.

WHEN WE KNEW ABOUT THIS PLACE, WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN TO SUMMER HAVEN. AND IT IS, IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.

UNTIL THE BREACH HAPPENED. AND THEN SEVERAL BREECHES HAPPENED.

BUT I GUESS TO MY POINT, WHAT SECTION OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY BEACHES HAVEN'T FAILED? I DON'T THINK THERE IS A SECTION OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY BEACHES THAT HAVEN'T FAILED AND HAVE BEEN RESTORED EITHER THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THROUGH ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION, THE WORK OF THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE A CONTINUOUS THING, IT'S GOING TO BE FOREVER, SO TO SIT ASIDE, YOU KNOW, SUMMER HAVEN IS SOMETHING THAT IS, YOU KNOW, PARTICULAR TO THIS, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR.

AND WE HAVE -- THE COUNTY HAS SPENT MONEY DOWN THERE, THAT'S TRUE. IT WAS NEVER DONE CORRECTLY WHICH IS ALSO TRUE.

I THINK WHAT THE HOME OWNERS HAVE PUT IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE BEST SOLUTION THAT HAS

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COME UP YET. I WOULD BEHOOVE PEOPLE TO REVIEW THAT, THERE MAY BE BETTER, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THIS IS BETTER THAN ANYTHING THAT HAS PUT BEFORE THIS COMMISSION OR THE COUNTY IN THE PAST.

AND I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S OPPOSITION. YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES BUT LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT DOWN THERE, AND I'VE SEEN IT DEGRADE, THE WATER IS DEGRADED, THE WATER QUALITY IS DEGRADED. THE OYSTERING IS ALMOST ESSENTIALLY GONE, COMMERCIAL OYSTERING ANYWAY DOWN THERE, THE FISHERIES HAVE DEGRADED OVER TIME AND WE NEED HELP. WE CAN'T JUST KEEP IGNORING THIS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. IT ALREADY IS A APPROXIMATE IT'S A SAFETY PROBLEM.

SOME OF THE OPPOSITION I KNOW THAT WE HAVE IS FROM THE LOCAL ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS PUSHING BACK BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU CAN CALL YOURSELVES RIVER KEEPERS AND NOT RESTORE A PRISTINE RIVER. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS AT THIS TIME?

GOOD AFTERNOON >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US TODAY AND I HOPE YOU HAVE COMFORTABLE CHAIRS UP THERE. MY NAME IS CAPTAIN NORMAN, I GO OUT AT DEVIL'S ELBOW, I FISH, I GREW UP ON SUMMER HAVEN RIVER, FIRST OYSTERS I HARVESTED WAS OUT OF THE SUMMER AVENGER RIVER, MY KIDS WHEN THEY WERE FOUR YEARS OLD CAUGHT THEIR FISH OUT OF THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER, IT'S GOTTEN SHALLOWER AND WE KEEP BEATING THIS DEAD HORSE SAYING IT IS A PROBLEM AND NEEDS TO BE FIXED. THE SUMMER CHAIRMEN RIVER IS A BIG ARTERY TO THE INLET WHICH IS THE HEART. WE'RE SEEING THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT THE WATER IS NOT FLOWING AS HARD AS IT WAS EVEN TEN YEARS AGO.

NOW IT'S SLOWING DOWN E VER MORE, WE'RE SEEING MORE OF THAT DIRTY WATER COME FROM THE PALM COAST CANALS, WE'RE GETTING NORTH FROM MOSES CREEK, I DO AQUI CULTURE, MIKE TOLD ME THE THE OTHER THE CLAM IS THE CANARY, IT WON'T STOP MAKING IT WAY UP THE FOOD CHAIN. I OULD BET THAT A LARGE PORTION OF THEM USE METANZAS INLET, THEY'RE BUMPING ON SATURDAYS AND SUMMER, EVERYBODY LOVES THAT INLET, I THINK WE NEED O CONSIDER SUMMER CHAIRMEN AS A SMALL PART OF THE BIG PROBLEM AND THAT WHOLE AREA NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT CLOSELY, WE'RE LUCKY, WE'RE A COUNTY THAT HAS INLETS IN IT, WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE TWO OF THEM.

THIS NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED, THE PROJECT THEY'RE TRYING O GET FORWARD IS NOT LIKE THE ONE WES EVE DONE IN PAST, IT'S NOT A BAND AID.

I TOOK A BOAT OUT THAT INLET WHEN IT BROKE THROUGH. : THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO DID A BAND AID APPROACH THIS TIME, THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO THIS THAT CAN BE MAINTAINED LIKE OUR BEACHES UP AND DOWN OUR COAST.

THEY'RE SPENDING HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON SAND, WHY NOT PUT A LITTLE BIT DOWN THERE, WE WANT A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO THIS AND ALL THE WAY THAT GOES DOWN LIKE ROCK, LIKE A1A HAS IN THE SOUTH INLET, THOSE WORK, THOSE BEEN THERE A LO LONG TIME.

EVERYBODY LIKES ALGT WALK OVER DOWN THE INLET ON THE SOUTH SIDE, EVERYBODY SURFS FROM THERE, THERE'S A REASON WE PUT ROCKS, THERE, IT WORKS, IT WOULD BE A PERMANENT SOLUTION AND OPENING IT BACK UP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR I'M. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS

AT THIS TIME ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4? >> SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE UBLIC COMMENT AND I DO HAVE A

QUESTION FOR YOU. >> YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. ER

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COULD YOU ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE RESIDENTS ESPECIALLY WITH THESE PROJECTS, DOES THAT MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIKING AT. I DON'T WANT TO WASTE OUR TAX DOLLARS ON SOMETHING THAT ISN'T GOING TO BE FEASIBLE AND ISN'T GOING TO WORK.

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IS THAT SOMETHING THEY'RE GOING THE LOOK AT WHEN THEY HAVE THIS STUDY DONE?

>> YES, THERE'S TWO PROJECTS, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE FIRST PROJECT, THE FIRST PROJECT IS GETTING THE RIVER OPEN AS FAR WEST AS WE CAN. PROJECT ONE AND PROJECT 3 ARE TIED TOGETHER, THE MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR THAT KEEPING THE RIVER OPEN IS THAT PROJECT 3, PUTTING IN THOSE ROCKS THAT THE LAST SPEAKER SPOKE ABOUT. PROJTS 2 -- PROJECT 2 WE SPEAK ABOUT THE WALL, THAT IS A PERMANENT FIX, THE ISSUE IS THE -- WHAT IS GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT TO KEEP THAT LIKE THAT, DO WE HAVE TO BURY IT, THOSE ARE THE RECURRING COSTS THAT ARE STILL GOING THE HAPPEN, SO IT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE EROSION BECAUSE YOU HAVE A WALL BASICALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO STOP AGAINST THERE, SO THAT'S A GOOD PERMANENT SOLUTION. THESE ARE SMALLER SOLUTIONS THAT ARE LIKE A PUZZLE SO THAT'S A WHAT THE RESIDENTS DID, THEY CAME TOGETHER AND TRIED TO FIGHT BITE SIZE PIECES TO GET THE BIG SCARY MILLION DOLLAR FIX ALL AT ONCE.

IF THE MOTION IS TO MOVE FORWARD, IF WE COULD SAY THAT THE FUNDS COME FROM THE -- NEEDS TO BE TRANSFERRED FROM THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES. DID I GET THAT RIGHT?

YEAH. >> I THOUGHT YOU MADE THAT CLEAR.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> [INAUDIBLE]. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO AMEND MY

NOTION TO REFLECT DR. JA GIAMMANCO'S CHANGES. >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH?

>> I WANT TO CLARIFY THE MOTION. HOW MUCH MONEY AND WHAT IS EXACTLY THE MOTION BECAUSE AGAIN I DON'T -- I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO SEE A GIANT OCEAN HAVE A LOT OF STR STRA* -- OUR MONEY, TAX DOLLAR MONEY IN IT AND THE WAY PERMANENT KIND OF SCARES ME, I WANT TO SEE WHEN THAT RIVER GETS OPEN, HOW IT AFFECTS EVERYTHING, I WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE

MOTION IS AND HOW MUCH. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, YOU HAVE THE THE FLOOR.

>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> OKAY SO, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH DR. G, IF YOU DON'T MIND. AND IT'S ABOUT GRANT FUNDING, IS THERE A WAY TO -- IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT TO HAVE THE COUNTY FUNDS REIMBURSED THROUGH THE GRANTS, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY?

>> MAYBE. I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITYFINGER WE DO IT QUITE A BIT WITH THE P FUNDS, STATE FUNDS WHERE WE FIND GRANTS LATER ON AND WE SEEK IT A YEAR LATER TO GET REIMBURSED

SO NOTHING'S OFF THE TABLE. >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> DR. GIAMMANCO.

>> I KNOW IT'S GOING TO COME IN JUST UNDER 500 THOUSAND DOLLARS, IN THE INTEREST OF

BEING EXACT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO -- >> I WAS DOING THE CALCULATIONS FOR YOU. ER TFRJT TOTAL BETWEEN PROJECT 1 AND PROJECT 2 IS 300 THOUSAND -- 386 THOUSAND 990 DOLLARS 88 CENTS.

>> SO, MY MOTION IS TO MOVE THAT AMOUNT FROM GENERAL FUND RESERVES TO THESE PROJECTS P, E AND D, AND THEN TO DIRECT STAFF TO DO AN RFQ FOR PROJECT

3 WHICH IS -- IS THAT CLEAR? >> YES. >> OKAY.

>> WE STILL HAVE A SECOND OVER THERE.

>> YES, I WAS THE SECOND. >> OKAY. >> [INAUDIBLE]

>> OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. LET'S VOTE.

>> OKAY, THAT PASSES 5-0, GREAT JOB, WE'LL TAKE A BREAK FOR LUNCH, WE'LL BE BACK HERE AT 10 AFTER 1:00.

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CHARGE. WE'RE ALSO PUTTING THAT IN A FINANCING OPTION , THAT IS ON

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OPTION FOR HOME OWNERS, THIS WOULD EFFECTIVE MAY 1, THAT'S THE SEPTIC TO SEWER

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STREAMLINING WE'RE DOING. THIS IS GREAT FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, I HAVE A LOT OF

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PEOPLE CALLING THAT LIVE ON TREASURE BEACH ON THE WATERWAYS, THEY'RE CONCERNED

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ABOUT THE WATER QUALITY IN THOSE CANALS, MOVING FORWARD, THE STATE WANTS TO ELIMINATE

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