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          >>  SHALL WE START? THE ST.JOHN'S COUNTY PLAN ASKING AND ZONING BOARD IS NOW IN 
          [Call meeting to order]
SESSION. SO, WOULD YOU PLEASE, STAND AND JOIN US IN HAD THE PLEDGE. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW. PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON TAUPICS RELEVANT TO THE AREA OF JURISDICTION AND GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER COMMENT AT A TIME DURING THE HEARING. ANY MEMBER THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK DURING MEETING ON EACH ITEM AND A LENGTH OF TIME DETERMINED WHICH SHALL BE THREE MINUTES. 
          SPEAKERERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. WHO THEY REPRESENT AND THEN STATE THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIMONY. IF THEY DO NOT THE FACT THAT THE TESTIMONY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED BY AGENCY AS DETERMINING THE WEIGHT OR TRUTHFULNESS OF TESTIMONY. 
          IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE RESPECT TO ANY MATTER CONSIDERED AT THIS HEARING. SUCH PERSONS NEED A RECORD AND MAY ENSURE A VERBATIM RECORD IS MADE. WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TOBASED. AND IF PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENTS PRESENTS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS, PHOTOGRAPHS, OR WRITTEN STATEMENTS PROVIDED THE CLERK FOR INCLUSION IN THE RECORD. 
          RECORD WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE BOOSHD. AGENCY OR COUNTY IN REVIEW OF APPEAL RELATING TO THEM. AGENCY MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THE BEGINNING OF EACH ITEM STATE WHETHER THEY HAD COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT OR OTHER PERSON REGARDING THE SUBSTANCE EVER THE ITEM OUTSIDE THE HEARING OF THE AGENCY. IF SUCH COMMUNICATION HAS OCCURRED THE AGENCY IDENTIFIED PERSON INVOLVED AND THE CONTENT OF THE COMMUNICATION. 
          CIVILITY CLAUSE. WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE. 
          DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THE ISSUES. AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS. 
          THANK YOU. >>  THANK YOU, MR. SPIEGEL. WE WILL NOW HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          FOR EACH SPEAKER WILL GET THREE MINUTES. I TELL YOU IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IF THERE IS SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA WE PREFER YOU WAIT UNTIL THAT AGENDA ITEM IF YOU SPEAK ON IT BEFOREHAND YOU WILL NOT GET TO SPEAK ON IT AGAIN DURING THE ITEM. SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME FORWARD NOW FOR SOMETHING PREFERABLELY NOT ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE, DO SO STAND AT A MIC. 
          [1. SUPMIN 2025-06 2819 Adams Road (MH). Request for a Special Use Permit, pursuant to Section 2.03.08 of the Land Development Code, to allow for the placement of a Manufactured/Mobile Home in Residential, SingleFamily (RS-3) zoning, specifically located at 2819 Adams Road.]
          >>  LOOKS LIKE EVERYONE WANTS TO WAIT. WE WILL GO AHEAD TO THE FIRST 
          ITEM BUT I WILL ASK FOR EX PARTE. >>  MR. LABANOWSKI. 
          >>  YES, I VISITED THE SITE ASK RECEIVED TWO E MAILS PROVIDED BY STAFF. 
          >>  EITHER THIS IS NOT WORKING OR -- NO ONE ELSE HAS EX PARTE. >>  MR. OLSON. 
          >>  I VISITED THE SITE ON THE THIRD. >>  I DID A SITE VISIT AS WELL, 
          SIR AND E MAILS FROM THE COUNTY. >>  OKAY. I RECEIVED SEVERAL E MAILS 
          RECENTLY THAT ARE UP HERE FOR US TODAY. >> ALL RIGHT. 
          WOULD THE PRESENTER COME FORWARD. ADAM JENNINGS. 
          >>  HEY THERE. SO -- JUST START WITH THE POWER POINT. 
          I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO GET IT UP THERE FOR YOU. >> OKAY. 
          THERE YOU GENTLEMAN. ALL RIGHT. SO -- WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE A MOBILE HOME FROM THREE LOTS, WAY TO THE PROPERTY HERE. 2819, ADAM'S ROAD. 
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I'M ADAM JENNINGS THE OWNER OF ADAM'S ROAD ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA AND REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO MOVE AN EXISTING MOBILE HOME TO THE SOUTH END OF MY PROPERTY. 
          THIS WILL SATISFY A STRUKTURE REQUIREMENT AND THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE HOME AND CLEARING HIS LAND TO BUILD A NEW CUSTOM HOME THIS WILL INCREASE THE VALUES OF BOTH PROPERTIES AND 
          TAXABLE VALUE FOR THE COUNTY >>  SO HERE IS ALL THE MAPS LIKE THE NEXT FEW SLIDES OF THE PROPERTY. SO IT IS SHOWING IT THERE IN BASS HAVEN IS WHERE IT IS AT. 
          LOCATION IS AND FLOOD ZONE MAP. THE NEXT 10 PICTURES SO LIKE THE CURRENT STATE OF THE AREA. 
          SO, I MEAN, BASICALLY, THE PAST YEAR I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS LIKE WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          SOMEONE CALLEDD AND COMPLAINED I HAD A SHED ON THE PROPERTY. AND WHEN I BOUGHT IT, THERE WAS A SHED THERE. SO, THEY NEVER DISCLOSED THAT WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. 
          BUT APPARENTLY YOU CAN'T HAVE A SHED WITHOUT A MAIN STRUCTURE. SO THIS IS LIKE ONE VIEW. 
          THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY HAS A GARAGE THAT IS WELL WITHIN THE 25 FOOT SETBACK. 
          HERE IS ACROSS THE STREET. THERE IS AN RV CAMPER, WHATEVER IT IS. 
          THAT HAS BEEN THERE THE WHOLE TIME. THEY BUILDING A POLE BARN WITHOUT A PERMIT. THERE IS WHERE THEY GOT ALL THE CONSTRUCTION STUFF. 
          NO -- I MEAN NOTHING FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. EVENTUALLY I WILL PUT A STOP WORK ORDER ON IT. I CALL ABOUT IT, I DON'T CARE. LIKE -- BUT DID THAT. 
          I'M TRIG TO PAINT A PICTURE OF THE WHOLE AREA. BASS HAVEN. 
          HERE IS ACROSS THE STREET, THERE IS AN OLD RV WHATEVER. OVER GROWN. 
          HERE IS ONE ON BASS HAVEN DRIVE. IT IS A DOUBLE WIDE. MOBILE HOME THERE FOR WHO KNOWS HOW LONG. THERE IS ANOTHER ONE ON BASS HAVEN. 
          HERE IS BASICALLY A MOBILE HOME LIKE ON THE BEGINNING OF ADAM'S ROAD. 
          HERE IS THE OTHER SIDE OF ADAM'S ROAD LIKE WHAT YOU COME IN TO THE PROPERTY OFF 13. 
          THERE IS THE GARAGE AGAIN. RIGHT ON THE ROAD. HERE IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME ANOTHER MOBILE HOME THAT'S GOT FERNS GROWING OUT BROKEN GRASS. 
          NOBODY'S LIVED THERE FOR WHO KNOWS HOW LONG. THERE IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME. A MOBILE HOME. SO DOUBLE WIDE. 
          AN ENTRY ON THE SIDE. SO -- I PUT THIS IN THERE TO SHOW THE CURRENT MOBILE HOMES THAT ARE THERE NOW. SO THERE IS LIKE SEVEN OF THEM, I THINK. 
          AM I ABLE TO -- LIKE -- SHOW ANYTHING ON THE -- SO THAT ONE THERE IS A DOUBLE WIDE MOBILE 
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HOME I'M TRYING TO MOVE FROM THERE TO MY PROPERTY IS THE RED PIN ON THE PICTURE. 
          Y'ALL SEE THIS? I'M TRYING TO MOVE IT 300 FEET AWAY. 
          THREE LOTS AWAY. THAT'S ALL WE ARE TRYING TO DO. SO, THIS IS THE CURRENT SITE PLAN. OF THAT PROPERTY THAT I JUST CIRCLED. 
          SO, DOUBLE WIDE MOBILE HOME WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE IT AWAY. THAT'S IT THERE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PICTURE. SO -- IF YOU LOOK -- THAT'S WHERE IT IS TRYING TO GET MOVED. 
          SO. PRETTY SIMPLE. THERE IS THE FRONT OF IT. 
          THERE IS THE FRONT SIDE. THERE IS THE FLOOR PLAN. AND THAT'S WHERE WE TRYING TO MOVE IT IN FRONT OF THE SHED, SO, LIKE I SAID, AT THE BEGINNING SLIDE THIS WILL SATISFY EVERYTHING FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT. IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR A YEAR NOW. IT WILL PROVIDE A HOME. LIKE -- SHOULD BE A SIMPLE MOVE. 
          SO, THERE IS THE SITE PLAN. FOR WHAT I SUBMITTED. SO THE DOUBLE WIDE WILL GO THERE. SO, I'M TRYING TO MOVE IT TO THE SOUTH END OF PROPERTY. 
          I OWN LOT FOUR AND FIVE. SO, THIS WILL BE ON LOT FOUR OF THE PROPERTY. 
          EVENTUAL LOW I WANT TO PUT A CONTAINER HOME HERE. BUT THE ONLY THING WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS THE MOBILE HOME. THE GREEN PART IS WHERE MOBILE HOME WILL GO. WE MOVE IT DOWN THERE. AND THE RED RECTANGLE IS WHERE I WOULDRIC TO PUT A CONTAINER HOME. THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF THAT CONTAINER HOME I WOULD LIKE TO BUILD, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. 
          THAT'S ONE IN ST.JOHN'S COUNTY CURRENTLY PRINCE ROAD. THAT'S IT. 
          >>  QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? MR. LABANOWSKI? WHEN I DID THE SITE VISIT I NOTICED THERE WAS A GIANT TREE STUMP IN THE BACK CLOSE TO THE CANAL. 
          >>  YEP. >>  WAS THAT TAKEN OUT BEFORE YOU BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY OR 
          AFTER? >>  I PUT THAT THERE, I INSTALLED IT, IT WAS FROM A TREE CUT DOWN IN MY CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS LAKE A WATER FEATURE. 
          >>  OKAY. >>  I GOT FINED AT ONE POINT FOR CUTTING DOWN A BIG OAK TREE ON 
          THE PROPERTY THAT DID NOT EXIST. SO THAT ALL GOT CLEARED UP. >>  YEA SO -- THANKFULLY THE GUY WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT CAME OUT THERE AND MET WITH ME. 
          AND I WAS LIKE, I ONLY CUT BRANCHES OFF THE TREES HERE. OH , THOSE ARE CAMPER TREES THEY 
          ARE GOOD YOU CAN CUT ALL THOSE IF YOU WANT UPON >>  HAVE NOT SEEN A GIANT STUMP 
          BACK THERE. >>  LOOKED GOOD, RIGHT. A LITTLE WATER FEATURE. 
          >>  MS. SPIEGEL. >>  YES. THE NEW MOBILE HOME, THE DOUBLE WIDE THAT IS JUST STONE'S THROW AWAY ALREADY IN NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE MOVED THE CONDITION FIGATION WILL BE DIFFERENT RATHER THAN THE FRONT OF THE HUSBAND FACING ADAMS DID YOU DO 
          THAT PURPOSE BY A HOUSE ON THE STREET THAT HAD YOUR NAME. >>  NO. 
          I MEAN IT HELPS. >>  IT IS COOL. IT WILL BE CONFIGURED 
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PERPENDICULAR TO THE STREET. WE DID NOT GET A VIEW OF THE SIDE. 
          I THINK THE CONCERN IS, WELL, THERE ARE A LOT OF MOBILE HOMES IN THE AREA I WENT OUT YESTERDAY 
          AND DROVE. >>  I APPRECIATE THAT. THIS WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT TO 
          BE HONEST WITH YOU. >>  THANK YOU. >>  OKAY. 
          I REALLY DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. 
          >>  ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? SEE NONE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, COME UP TO ONE OF THE MICROPHONES HERE AND TELL US WHAT YOU THINK AND YOU GOT THREE MINUTES. 
          STATE NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND I SEE MR. JAMES WHITEHOUSE IS COMING FORWARD I UNDERSTAND HE REPRESENTS PROPERTY OWNER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PERHAPS MORE THAN ONE AND YOU WANT MORE TIME THAN THREE MINUTES. I MAY BE ABLE TO IN THREE. 
          I WILL GO THROUGH. HOW ABOUT FIVE TO START. >>  FINE, THANK YOU. 
          >> MS. SPIEGEL. >>  FOR THE RECORD JAMES WHITEHOUSE. 
          SEA GROVE MAIN STREET HERE IN ST.JOHN'S COUNTY FLORIDA. I'M HOAR ON BEHALF OF SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AS YOU KNOW WE ARE HERE FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT ON ALLOW A MANUFACTURED MOBILE HOME IN RS THREE AT 2319 ADAMS ROAD. 
          YOU SEE FROM YOUR PLANNING STAFF REPORT THE STAFF NOTES THE REQUEST IS RESULT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINT AND EXPRESS CONCERN OF HAVING A TWO YEAR COMMENCEMENT OF THIS AS YOU SEE FROM THE LIMITED NARRATIVE PROVIDED, THE STATEMENT FROM THE APPLICANT SAYS IT IS TO HELP UPGRADE THE PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL AREA. IF YOU LOOK AT THE GENERAL AREA YOU SAW PICTURES HE SHOWED THE STUFF ACROSS THE STREET. ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF NEW BUILT HOMES OR HOMES THAT ARE NOT MOBILE HOMES. 
          THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE AREA HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT CONTINUING IT PLACE MOBILE HOMES IN THE AREA. IF YOU LOOK AT THEARIAL YOU SEE THAT FOR AWHILE THE PROPERTY BY APPLICANT USED FOR STORAGE OR OTHER MEANS. AND HE WANTS TO PUT THIS MOBILE HOME ON THE SOUTH. THE EAST OR SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          IS KEEP THE NORTH OR WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TO DO NOW I A CONTAINER HOME HAVE TO COME BACK AS WELL. BUT YOU SEE HIS SITE PLAN SHOWING IT IS ONLY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF PROPERTY. FOR THIS MOBILE HOME. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HOMES IN THE AREA THOSE CIRCLED IN GREEN ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES NOT MOBILE HOMES DID NOT SPECIAL USE PERMITS. THESE ARE ACROSS THE STREET. THE ONE IN GREEN IS ONE THAT IS GOING TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE THERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE STAFF REPORT, WHICH INDICATES WHICH ARE MOBILE HOMES. THERE WERE A FEW HIS THAT ARE NOT MOBILE HOMES. THIS IS FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT SHOWYS THE OUTSIDE OF THE ROAD AND RED IS IN THE GOING TO BE A MOBILE HOME THAT IS A RESIDENT BUILT. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY SITE AND YOU SEE THE MOBILE HOME PLACED THERE THE RECENT ONE WAS IN 88. 84, 70 IS ONE. 88 IS ONE AND LIKE WE SAID THE ONE FROM 57. IS THE ONE THAT IS GOING OUT AND WILL BE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. 
          THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET I WILL GO THROUGH THEIR LETTERS YOU HAVE THEM. 
          HAVE CONCERNS THE PROPERTY THE STREET AND THE AREA HAS BEEN COMING UP AND NOT BEING PLACED MOBILE HOMES. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SPECIAL USE YOU TALK ABOUT A USE APPROPRIATE WITHOUT RESTRICTION IS ONE PROMOTE THE PUBLIC SAFETY, HEALTH ASK MORALS COMFORT, APPEARANCE AND GENERAL WELFARE. YOU SEE FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT AND THE APPLICANT, THERE IS NOT A LOT OF NARRATIVE THAT IS ADDRESSING THAT AND SAYING WHY THIS IS GOOD FOR COMMUNITY AND WHY THIS IS GOOD TO PROMOST THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE AREA ITSELF. 
          AND THEN HAD WE TALK ABOUT THE REQUEST, I SAID, IT IS THE RESULT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          THAT HAD A NUMBER OF ISSUES IN IT. IT WAS NOT JUST THAT THERE WAS A STORAGE SHED LEFT PRIOR TO WHEN HE BOUGHT IT. IT WAS MORE BECAUSE OF THE STORAGE AND BECAUSE THERE WAS INDICATIONS THAT HE WAS RUNNING A LANDSCAPING BUSINESS OUT OF 
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IT. YOU LOOK BECAUSE IT IS ON THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ORDER. 
          HEAVY MACHINERY IN YOUR PACKET. AGAIN, THE CONCERNED NEIGHBORS, AND THESE ARE THE ONES AS INDICATED HAVE YOU E MAILS FROM IN YOUR PACKET. FIRST MR. FOX THE BIG HOUSE DOWN THE RIVER. SHE HAD THIS HOUSE FOR YEARS AND CONCERNED THAT SHE WAS EXCITED ABOUT THE FACT THE PROPERTIES COMING UP SHE LIVES THERE. THIS IS MR. MC COHEN BUILDING THE HOUSE HE IS CONCERNED HE IS TRYING TO BRING THE NEIGHBORHOOD UP. 
          YOU HAVE A MS. STEVENSON HAS A TRIPLE LOT HAS A NEW BUILT HOUSE NOT A MOBILE HOME. 
          HE INDICATED IT WAS BUT IT IS NOT. YOU HAVE THE DIVINES WHO LIVE HERE, THAT ARE JUST DOWN THE ROAD IS IS FINALLY MR. JACKSON WHO LIVES HERE, HE HAS A REGULAR HOUSE OAT ROAD. DID NOT SHOW YOU PICTURES OF OTHER HOUSES THERE ARE BIG HOUSES. I ASK YOU, ASK THESE QUESTIONS TO APPLICANT IS HE RUNNING A LANDSCAPING BUSINESS OUT OF THE PROPERTY WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED. DID YOU PREVIOUSLY. 
          ONE MORE MINUTE, OR PLAN TO STORE COMMERCIAL TRUCKS OR STORAGE CONTAINER THE PROPERTY. 
          EMPLOYEES COMING TO THE PROPERTIES. DO YOU HAVE MATERIALS ON SITE. 
          YOU CANNOT RUN A BUSINESS OUT OF THE PROPERTY ON THE ROAD. THE APPLICANT DID NOT SHOW UP AT CODE ENFORCEMENT HEARING THIS WAS NOT ADDRESSED. CITIZENS WOULD LIKE TO PROTECT THE VALUES THEY ADDED IS CONTINUE TO ADD TO THE AREA. THERE ARE NO ILLEGAL BUSINESSES ALLOWEDED BE RUN IN RS3 NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY WOULD REQUEST THAT THESE CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS ARE FIXED. THEY BELIEVE THAT THIS REQUEST IS NOT APPROPRIATE THAT DOES NOT HAVE MOBILE HOMES SINCE 1988. WE DON'T BELIEVE THIS PROMOTES PUBLIC SAFETY, MORALS OR ORDER APPEARANCE, OR GENERAL WELFARE AND ASK YOU TO DENY THE REQUEST, 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >>  THANK YOU. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND TO 
          THIS? >>  YEA. I'M GLAD HE BROUGHT THOSE UP. 
          I ONLY GOT THREE LETTERS FROM THE NEIGHBORS. WE ARE REQUIRED TO SEND OUT LETTERS TO EVERYONE WITHIN 300 FEET. I GOT THREE LETTERS BACK FROM THE COUNTY. SOME OF THOSE WERE NOT OF THAT HE MENTIONED NOT IN THAT LIST. 
          BUT -- I CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT EVERY ONE OF THOSE. SO -- SYLVIA THAT LIVES IN THE BIG RIVER HOUSE DOWN THERE. THAT'S ACTUALLY WHO I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY FROM. 
          SO -- THE FACT THAT I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND NOBODY EVER DISCLOSED LIKE YOU CAN'T HAVE A SHED HERE. WITHOUT HAVING A MAIN USE STRUCTURE, LIKE THAT WAS NEVER DISCLOSED TO ME WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY FOR A LOT OF MONEY. THAT IS THE FIRST THING. 
          THE OTHER ONE, I THINK MC COHEN? IS THAT THE NAME? Y'ALL HAVE? THAT IS THE PICTURES I SHOWED HE WAS BUILDING A POLE BARN. THAT HE WILL CONVERT TO A HOUSE. 
          APPARENTLY. BUT NEVER GOT A BUILDING PERMIT, NOTHING. 
          THAT IS THE PICTURE THAT I SHOWED. OF LIKE STOP WORK ORDER. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAS ONE NOW OR NOT? THE OTHER ONE IS MY NEIGHBOR. 
          WITH BASICALLY A MODULAR HOME ON STILTS. THE FACT SHE IS AGREEING THAT IS NEW TO ME. BUT -- I MEAN IT IS -- LITERALLY MOVING A DOUBLE WIDE MOBILE HOME THAT IS IN GREAT SHAPE 300 FEET AWAY. LIKE -- THERE IS SEVEN OTHER HOUSES THAT ARE NOBODY LIVES IN. THEY ARE FALLING APART. EVERYTHING. 
          SO -- I DON'T SEE WHY IT IS AN ISSUE. IT WILL INCREASE THE PROPERTY VALUES LIKE THE TAXABLE VALUE FOR THE COUNTY. LIKE I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 
          I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR A YEAR NOW. EVER SINCE THE ONE GUY THAT HE PUT UP THERE -- COMPLAINED, I DON'T KNOW A HUNDRED PERCENT IT WAS HIM. 
          I'M SURE HE TOLD ME HE WAS GOING TO CALL THE COUNTY BECAUSE I HAD A COMMERCIAL TRUCK PARKED THERE WE WERE WORKING ON THE PROPERTY. THE PICTURES HE SHOWED WAS THAT DAY. 
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WE WERE DOING WORK ON THE PROPERTY. THAT IS RIDICULOUS. 
          LIKE -- WE HAVE FOUR BOARD MEMBERS THATMENT TO ASK QUESTIONS I WANT TO ASK A COUPLE FIRST. SO, CAN YOU DO A ONE YEAR COMMENCEMENT RATHER THAN A TWO 
          YEAR. >>  ABSOLUTELY. IT IS DEPENDANT ON THE GUY I'M FROM. I SHOWED YOU ON THE MAP WHERE IT IS MOVING FROM? I THINK HE IS IN GERMANY NOW. BUT HE GOT BUILDING PLANS FOR HIS OWN CUSTOM HOME. 
          AND -- SO AS SOON AS HE CAN GET THE I THINK HE HAS LEFT THE SEPTIC TANK TO GET APPROVED. 
          AND THEN WHEN THAT IS ALL APPROVED THEN I CAN MOVE THAT DOUBLE WIDE FROM HIS LOT TO 
          MINE. >>  I SAW ON THE PLAN A SHARED SEPTIC TANK IN THE BACK WHO IS 
          THIS SHARED WITH? >>  IT WOULD BE LIKE IN THE FUTURE WITH THE CONTAINER HOME I MENTIONED. SO THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A DREAM OF MINE TO PUT ONE THERE. 
          I SHOWED YOU THE PICTURES BUT -- SO IT WOULD BE SHARED WITH THAT. EVENTUALLY IT TELL BE THE ONE LOT WOULD BE DIVIDED TO TWO. I HAVE TALKED TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. 
          ZONING. EVERYTHING. >>  RIGHT NOW THERE IS NOSEPTIC 
          TANK THERE AND YOU WOULD NEED A NEW ONE. >>  RIGHT. 
          THERE IS NO SEPTIC TANK. MR. WHITEHOUSE, HAD QUESTIONS HE WANTED US TO ASK YOU I WILL ASK YOU A COUPLE. SO WOULD THE LANDSCAPING BUSINESS REMAIN ON SITE. 
          >>  NO. >>  THAT WAS LITERALLY WHEN THE PICTURES WERE TAKEN LIKE MY 
          TRUCK HAPPENED TO BE THERE. LIKE THAT WAS IT. >>  THEY ARE NOT THERE NOW. 
          LIKE I SHOWED YOU THE MOST CURRENT PICTURE. IT IS JUST AN EMPTY LOT, LIKE EVERYTHING IS EMPTY EXCEPT THE TWO SHEDS. WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY THEY WERE THERE. SO -- LIKE THAT WAS ALL BECAUSE OF ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT HE BROUGHT UP, COMPLAINED ABOUT IT. AND SAID HE WAS GOING IT CALL THE COUNTY. 
          AND SAID EVERYTHING WAS MOVED. SINCE THEN. WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT LIKE HEY, CAN'T HAVE THOSE WITHOUT A MAIN USE STRUCTURE. SO BY MOVING THIS THING I WILL HAVE A MAIN USE STRUCTURE. THERE WILL NOT BE A BUSINESS THERE THAT WAS A TEMPORARY THING. THEY WERE PARKED THERE DOING WORK ON THE PROPERTY. 
          CUTTING TREES. AND IT IS JUST A BIG MISUNDERSTANDING. 
          >>  OKAY. THERE WILL BE NO COMMERCIAL VEHICLES OR HEAVY MACHINERY 
          PARKED ON THE PROPERTY? >>  NO. >>  OKAY. 
          THAT WAS NEVER THE PLAN. >>  THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS MS. SPIEGEL. 
          >>  THANK YOU. OKAY. I GUESS I GOT CONFUSED BY THE MAP THAT MR. WHITEHOUSE SHOWED AND THE ONE YOU SHOWED THAT THE IMPLICATION WAS THE HOUSE THAT IS MOVED BY THE GUY WHO WILL BUILD A NEWHOUSE IS THE ONE YOU ARE GETTING ONE HE SHOWED. 
          >>  CORRECT. >>  THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WROTE A COMPLAINT LETTER. 
          >> NO. >>  MR. MC COHEN. HE IS BUILDING. 
          >>  I'M CONFUSED. ILLEGALLY. >>  YEA. 
          MR. MC COHEN I KNOW I'M UNDER THE RADAR HE OWNS THE BUSINESS IN TOWN. 
          JUE ARE NOT BUYING IT. >>  KNOWS PEOPLE. >>  1957 I'M LIKE THAT MOBILE HOME DID NOT LOOK -- DO YOU KNOW HOW OLD THAT HOME IS? 1984. 
          IT IS AN AGED BUILDING. >>  RIGHT. THEY REALLY DON'T LAST THAT LONG. OKAY. I HAD A LICENSED MOBILE HOME MOVER COME OUT THAT'S THE COUNTY REQUIRES. THEY GAVE ME THE LIST. 
          I CALLED PROBABLY 20 OF PEOPLE. AND SOMEBODY CAME OUT AND SAID YES IT IS TOTALLY WORTH MOVING. 
          THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS WITH IT. SO, I GOT THE NAME OF THEM IF YOU NEED IT. 
          BUT YEA THEY ARE WILLING AND ABLE IT DO IT. >> THE TWO YEARS WAS IN CASE WAS WAS A DELAY IN THE OTHER MAN. I NEVER SAID TWO YEARS THE SOONER THE BETTER. 
          >>  OKAY. >>  THAT WAS PUT IN THE APPLICATION. 
          I THINK MARIE PUT THAT IN THERE. JUST TO BE SAFE BUT. AS SOON AS HIS GETS ASH PROVED 
          WE CAN MOVE IT. >>  OKAY. I WAS OUT THERE THE TRUCKS ARE 
          NOT THERE. THERE ARE ON GOOGLE EARTH. >>  MR. OLSON, YOUR MAIN 
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MOTIVATION IS TO COME TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODES THAT SO YOU HAVE A MAIN STRUCTURE 
          WITH THE EXISTING ACCESSORY BUILDING IS THAT CORRECT? >>  IT IS NOT THE MAIN MOTI MOTIVATION. I BOUGHT THE VACANT LOT FROM SYLVIA AT THE END OF THE ROAD THE BIG RIVER HOUSE. THAT WE ARE ALL TALKING ABOUT. 
          I BOUGHT IT FROM HER ULTIMATELY TO PUT A MAIN USE STRUCTURE THERE. 
          SO00 THIS SATISFIES THAT. >>  OKAY. I MEAN YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION BECAUSE IN THE BACK OF MY MINDS I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE CERTAINLY CHEAPER OR EASIER AND QUICKER TO SIMPLY REMOVE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES THAT DON'T SEEM SIGNIFICANT TO THE SITE. 
          AS FAR AS VALUE. BECAUSE MOVING A MOBILE HOME WHATEVER AGE IT IS, IS GOING TO 
          BE COSTLY TO MEET ALL THE CODE REQUIREMENTS. >>  RIGHT. 
          RESIDING IT. >>  THAT'S MY THOUGHT. BUT -- IF THAT THIS IS YOUR PLAN 
          I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. >>  RIGHT. >>  SO, UM -- I MEAN I WANT TO BE ABLE TO LIKE LIVE THERE AND IT IS A BEAUTIFUL LOT. YOU SEE THE RIVER FROM THERE IT 
          IS ON A CANAL. THIS WILL PROVIDE THAT. >>  OKAY. 
          >>  WE DID HAVE TWO OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THAT HAD QUESTIONS I GUESS THEY ARE MOOT NOW? OKAY. MR. GREEN. IN THE MOBILE HOME, YOU ARE 
          GOING TO MOVE. >>  NO THAT IS OWNED BY GUY AT 2848? 
          ADAMS ROAD? >>  UNDERSTOOD BUT CLEAR ON THAT YOU SAID -- ONCE IT GETS MOVED 
          ARE YOU MOVING INTO THIS ONE? YES THAT IS THE PLAN. >>  OKAY. 
          >>  OKAY. SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS. ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? BEFORE THERE IS A MOTION. MR. LABANOWSKI? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION UPON 
          WHERE IS THE WELL ON THIS PROPERTY? >>  SO, THE WELL IS ON THE SOUTH/WEST CORNER OF IT. SO IT WILL BE LIKE BEHIND WHERE THE MOBILE HOME WOULD BE. 
          WE GOT A POWER POLE THERE. THE WELL. SO EVERYTHING IS SET UP. 
          IF THIS GETS APPROVED HOPEFULLY, THEN WE WILL GET THE I TALKED WITH THE SEPTIC COMPANY. 
          THEY GOT THE PLAN FOR IT. I SHARED TODAY ON THE SITE PLAN. SO EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE EXCEPT 
          GETTING THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. >>  FOR A MOBILE HOME THAT IS ALREADY ON THE ROAD WE ARE 300 
          FEET AWAY. >> I DID NOT KNOW THE WELL WAS IN THIS SMALL SHED BACK THERE. 
          >>  YEA THAT IS BASICALLY THE WELL HOUSE THERE. >>  WHERE THE SMALL SHED IS. 
          >>  YES. >>  THANK YOU. >>  MR. GREEN? YEA. LET ME DO A FOLLOW UP. SO -- YOU MENTIONED YOU WANTED TO BUILD A REGULAR STICK BUILT HOUSE? WHAT MADE YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND TOP GO AND BUY THIS MOBILE HOME AND MOVE IT. IS IT A CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          >> NO. SO -- I NEVER MENTIONED I WAS TRYING TO BUILD A STICK BUILT HOUSE. EVENTUALLY I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A CONTAINER HOME ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LIKE IN THE COUNTY ALREADY. AND IT IS I TALKED TO EVERYBODY IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IT IS ALL APPROVED, IT IS A MATTER OF SUBMITTING THE ENGINEERED DRAWINGS. BUT FOR NOW I WILL PUT THE DOUBLE WIDE MOBILE HOME ON THE SOUTH END. AND THEN MAY BE DIVIDE IT UP AND HAVE THE OTHER ONE NEXT TO IT. 
          IN THE FUTURE. >>  I'M TRYING TO GET A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT THE END RESULT 
          IS. >>  OKAY. >>  SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? NO ONE WANTS IT MAKE A MOTION. MR. MATOVINA. 
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MOTION TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT 2025062819 ADAMS ROAD BASED 10 CONDITIONS PROVIDED IN 
          THE STAFF REPORT. >>  WE HAD MS. PERKINS SECOND INITIALLY. 
          OTHER COMMENTS, MR. OLSON? >>  I YES , I HAVE A QUESTION NOW. 
          THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT -- THE CONDITION FIVE IF HAS THE TWO YEARS THE APPLICANT SEEMED TO INDICATE THAT TWO YEARS WAS NOT NECESSARILY A REQUIREMENT HERE. IS THE STANDARD ONE YEAR? 
          >>  OKAY. PROPER MATOVINA YOU WOULD AMEND. >> WHY DID YOU ASK FOR TWO YEARS 
          WAS >>  SO, I MEAN IT SHOULD BE WITHIN THIS YEAR BASED ON THE CURRENT OWNER'S BUILDING PERMIT. GETTING APPROVED HERE SOON. TALKED TO HIM TODAY. 
          HE IS LIKE ALL HE IS WAITING ON IS THE SEPTIC IT GET APPROVED. BUT WHEN THAT -- I'M LEAVING AS 
          IS. >>  WHEN THAT GETS APPROVED WE CAN MOVE IT. 
          WE ARE READY TODAY -- OR WHATEVER. IT WILL NOT BE TWO YEARS, SO -- 
          SOONER THE BETTER. >>  MS. SPIEGEL IS FIRST. >>  SORRY, YEA. 
          SEPTIC'S GONE TO THE STATE IT TAKES LONGER. SO MAY BE THAT IS WHY MS. COLEE PUT THAT IN THERE. I WILL JUST EXPLAIN MY VOTE BEFORE I VOTE. 
          I UNDERSTAND MR. WHITEHOUSE AND NEIGHBOR CONCERNS TO NEIL THERE IS RAM SHACKEL STUFF GOING ON IF THIS IS IN PLACE NOW AND IS BEING MOVED A BIT OVER I THINK THAT WILL IMPROVE THE SITE RATHER THAN NOT. AND THEN THE SITE WILL BE STREET WILL BE IMPROVED BID OTHERS. 
          I THINK BASED ON THAT. I DON'T THINK THIS IS A DETRIMENT TO THE MORAL AND THE BEAUTY AND CONDITIONS THAT MR. PRESIDENT WHITEHOUSE EXPRESSED ACCORDING TO OUR CODE. 
          >> IT WILL ONLY IMPROVE IT. >>  THIS IS STAFF QUESTION AND PROBABLY IN HERE. 
          DOES THIS SPECIAL USE RUN WITH THE PROPERTY? OR WE ARE THE OWNER? 
          I KNOW YOU USUALLY PUT IT IN HERE I MUST HAVE BEEN MISTODAY. >>  THROUGH CHAIR. 
          JACOB SMITH, THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS NONTRANSFERABLE. >>  OKAY. 
          >>  MR. MATOVINA? >>  NO, SIR. >>  I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE HERE FOR THIS ITEM. 
          BUT SEEDED YOUR TIME THERE ARE PEOPLE SITTING OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THIS OR NOT. OF COURSE WE OPERATE AS THE UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAW AND CAN'T DISCUSS ANYTHING WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW THIS WILL GO. I INTEND TO SUPPORT THE MOTION. 
          IT IS DIFFICULT FOR US TO DENY SON THIS USE WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER MOBILE HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WOULD NOT BE FAIR. UNDERSTANDS THAT PEOPLE GET UPSET BUT IT WOULD BE UNFAIR IN MY OPINION TO THE APPLICANT TO NOT TO ALLOW HIM TO MOVE A MOBILE HOME 300 FEET OR SO. I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION AS WELL. 
          ANYWAY. IT IS TIME TO VOTE. UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER 
          QUESTIONS? >>  PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. >>  THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE IT. YOU DONE VOTE. >>  OKAY. 
          [2. SUPMIN 2025-13 Simms Mobile Home. Request for a Special Use Permit to allow for a Manufactured/Mobile Home as a residence in Residential, Single-Family (RS-3) zoning, pursuant to Land Development Code Section 2.03.08, specifically located at 520 Thomas Street.]
NOW IT IS UNANIMOUS. WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM TWO. WHICH IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE SIMMS MOBILE HOME. PRESENTER IS KRISTAN FLOAT I NEED TO ASK FOR EX PARTE. 
          MR. LABANOWSKI? I VISITED THE SITE ASK HAVE E MAILS BY STAFF. 
          >>  OKAY. MS. SPIEGEL. I VISITED THE SITE. 
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DROVE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD A LOT AND READ A LITTLE PILE OF, MAILS WE RECEIVED TODAY. 
          >> MR. OLSON. VISITS THE SITE ON THE SECOND OF THIS MONT. 
          >> I ALSO VISITED THE SITE YESTERDAY ON THE WAY BACK LOOKING AT ANOTHER PROPERTY. 
          207. >>  IF NOT -- KRISTAN FLEET. YOU ARE FLOOR IS YOURS. 
          >>  OKAY. I'M HERE REPRESENTING MY GRANDFATHER AS WELL. 
          MR. SIMMS. HE IS THE OWNER PROPERTY. SO THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE IT IS RESIDENTIAL USE, WE ARE. COULD YOU SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE. 
          >>  I APOLOGIZE. YES , SIR. THIS THE IS FUTURE LAND USE MAP. 
          EVERYTHING AROUND IT IS RESIDENTIAL. THE LOCATION MAP, THE BROWN ROAD THERE, TOWARD THE BOTTOM IS 207 AND TOWARD THE RIVER. THIS IS CLOSER OF ZONING MAP. 
          THE WHITE PART IS PART OF THE CATHOLIC SCHOOL SAINT JOSEPH AND IW THERE IS A STORAGE UNIT THERE. THIS IS THE ARIAL MAP. SO, WE ARE WANTING TO REPLACE HIS DETERIORATED STRUCTURE WITH A NEW MODERN MOBILE HOME. THE EXISTING STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY IS SIGNIFICANTLY DETERIORATED BEYOND REPAIRS IS AND NO LONG ARE CONTRIBUTES POSITIVE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. A NEW 1 WILL IMPROVE THE SAFETY, APPEARANCE AND PROPERTY VALUE. 
          UP GRATING THE DETERIORATED STRUCTURE WILL STRENGTHEN NEIGHBORHOOD STABILITY RATHER THAN LOW ARE VALUES ASK MAINTAINED PROPERTIES REGARDLESS OF CONSTRUCTION TYPE CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY HOW A NEIGHBORHOOD IS PERCEIVED. IMPROVEMENT INCREASE THE FUNCTIONAL AND MARKET VALUE OF OF THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY. IN TURN SUPPORTS PROPERTY VALUE. 
          A NEW ARE STRUCTURE BLENDSES EFFECTIVELY THAN AN AGING FALLING APART ONE. 
          THE CURRENT HOME CONDITION INCREASING CHALLENGES FOR THE ELDORLY OWNER. 
          GEROLD SIMMS. HE IS 95 BUT GETINGS AROUND WELL. 
          HE IS COCOA CO HERENT. HE IS HEALTHIER THAN NEIL ME THE MULE NEW HOME WILL ALLOW SUPPORTED CARE FOR HIM AND ADEQUATE SPACE FOR FAMILY TO RESIDE FOR CARE TIME. 
          AND I AM ME AND MY SISTER ARE HIS CARE TAKEERS. MY SISTER LIVES ON THE PROPERTY AND WORKS AND SHE IS THE IN THE ABLE TO BE THERE THE WAY I AM. AND I HAVE A LARGE ARE FAMILY THAT THE TWO BEDROOM HOME DOES NOT ACCOMMODATE THAT FOR HIM. WE WANT TO DO A BIGGER ONE TO SUPPORT THE FAMILY. BECAUSE I KNOW HE IS 95. AND IT IS IN QUESTION YOU KNOW HIS AGE AND WHAT NOT. ONCE THINGS TAKE MR. SIMMS IS SUPPOSED TO GO THAT WILL BE THE PROPERTY FOR ME AND MY SISTER. I KNOW SOMETIMES EVERYBODY WANTS TO SELL AND WHAT NOT. 
          BUT IN THIS WORLD AND ECONOMY, A PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH A HOME IS WORTH MORE THAN I THINK ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY. THIS IS THE BEFORE. THE PHOTOS NOW OF MR. SIMMS HOME THIS IS THE IN DRIVEWAY. THIS IS ANOTHER PHOTO OF IT. THIS IS FACING NORTH/EAST IF YOU ARE AT THOMAS STREET. THIS IS THE BACK OF THE HOME. THIS IS THE SIDE OF THE HOME FACING SOUTH/WEST. AND THIS WOULD BE WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE ON THERE. 
          THIS WOULD BE FINAL LOOK OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. THIS IS THE ACTUAL PICTURE FROM THE WEBSITE OF MOBILE HOME COMPANY. I JUST I'M NOT TECH SAVVY I DID USE THE CHAT GPT NEW THING THEY GOT GOING ON TO DO THE TWO PHOTOS TOGETHER. 
          THAT IS A PICTURE MR. SIMMS PROPERTY WITH THE MOBILE HOME HOW HE WILL BE PLACED ON THERE. 
          IN THE BACK, YOU SEE OUR NEIGHBORS AT 530. AND IT IS A VERY SIMILAR SIDING WHAT IS 530 WHICH HELL BE IN A LATER PICTURE. THIS WOULD BE THE BACK LOOK. 
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AND AGAIN I HAD TOW USE THE BIT OF MAGIC WITH THE PHOTO SHOP IS ALL THAT I AM NOT GOOD WITH THAT UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK IT DID A GOOD JOB THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO GO WITH THE SIDING ON THE BOTTOM. OF WHAT MOBILE HOME SIDING ESPECIALLY FOR MOBILE HOMES. 
          THIS IS A FLOOR PLAN. I KNOW YOU HEAR FIVE BEDROOMS AND THREE BATH I LIVEOD THAT PROPERTY MY LIFE THERE WAS 5 OF US IN A TWO BEDROOM HOUSE I'M GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF IT BUT FOR ME AND MY FAMILY WE WILL LIKE A LITTLE ROOM TO BREATHE AND NOT BE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. 
          IT IS ONLY 2, 136 SQUARE FEET. IT DOES MATCH ANOTHER MOBILE HOME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WHICH I WILL SHOW. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU GUYS YOU WILL HAVE I WANTED TO INCLUDE IT. THE SIZE AND PLACE AM OF THE MOBILE HOME. 
          TELL BE FIVE BEDROOMS. THREE BATH. 72 FEET LONG. 
          32 FEET WIDE FOOTAGE OF 2136. SETBACK 38 FEET FROM THE ROAD AND SIT DIRECTING IN THE MIDDLE HAVING 24 FEET BOTH THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. WE WILL ENSURE THE PROPER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE THE PAVED DRIVEWAY. INCLUDING WITH THE SWELL TO ENSURE EVERYTHING FLOWS THROUGH. WE KNOW ABOUT THE IN THE CORNER OF HIS PROPERTY THE TRAVERSE THE CROSS CULVERT UNDER THOMAS WILL NOT BE AFFECTED. AND EVERYTHING WILL BE TO FINISHED FROOR ELEVATION REQUIREMENTS OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE HAD WE ADD ANY TYPE OF -- DIRT TO IT. I KNOW PEOPLE HERE MOBILE HOMES AND IT GETS SCARY THEY THINK, I KNOW THEY HAVE NOT BEEN THEY ARE BEING BUILT BETTER. THEY ARE BUILT TO HUD CODE AND USE 2 BY 6 WALL STUDS USED IN THE NEW SITE BUILT HOMES AND GREATER STRENGTH AND BETTER INSTALLATION IS AND INCREASED DURABILITY. MANUFACTURED HOME SAYS ARE BUILT IN A CONTROLLED FACTORY ALLOWS PROTECTION FROM THE WEATHER AND IT WILL BE ON A PERMANENT FOUNDATION SIMILAR TO THE OTHERS ON THOMAS STREET. TOEING GEAR WILL BE REMOVED AND VISUAL BARRIER TO BLOCK THE PLUMBING AND THE AND LOOKITY UNDER. 
          THE SKIRTING WILL BE TO MANUFACTURE FOR THE PURPOSE THE INSTALLATION OF THE MOBILE HOME. 
          THESE ARE A COUPLE THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM HIS HOUSE. 
          IT IS THAT IS THE SAME SIZE WE ARE LOOKING AT EXCEPT FOR HIS WE WILL WANTING TO STICK LONG WAYS DUE TO SETBACK. THERE WILL BE LEFT LANE I DENT CAL TO THE ONE ON THE LEFT THE ONE OF THE LEFT IS 2280 SQUARE FEET. WE ARE 2136. 
          THIS IS 540. AFTER LOOKING IT SITS SIX FEET WIDE AND EIGHT FEET LONG ARE AND HAVE SAME SIDING OTHER HOUSES ON THE STREET AS IN 530 AND 550 HAVE THE SAME SIDING IN THE MOBILE HOME. THIS IS AN ARIAL MAP OF AROUND HERE THE RED DOT IS MR. SIMMS HOME. AND YELLOW ARE OTHERS IN ADMIT NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          NOW I KNOW THEY DON'T SIT INTO WHICH IT TO EVEN GET TO WHERE MR. SIMMS LIVE YOU HAVE YOU IT PASS SEVERAL OTHER MOBILE HOMELESS AND THE SQUARE WITH THE DOT IS MOBILE HOME PARK THAT IT HAS 25 SINGLE WIDE TRAILERS THAT GET IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. HAVE YOU TO PASS THAT AS WELL. 
          THERE IS A STORAGE UNIT FURTHER DOWN IS COURTESY GAS AS WELL. AND I DID REALIZE THAT TOWARD THE BOTTOM WHERE THE SORRY I FORGOT. WHERE THE THIS HERE. 
          THAT IS ZONED FOR MOBILE HOME USE ALREADY. AND THEN AS I STATED TO GET TO MR. SIMMS HOUSE YOU HAVE TO DRIVE UP THIS WAY HERE FRESHMAN 207 AND COME THIS WAY AND PUPASS SEVERAL OF THESE MOBILE HOMES TO GET TO U.S. ONE TO GET TO HIS NEIGHBORHOOD YOU HAVE TO PASS 
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THESE MOBILE HOMES. KING STREET, DOWN HERE THERE ARE A LOT OF HOUSES THAT ARE FALLING APART AND IN BAD SHAPE INCLUDING SIMILAR TO MR. SIMMS I DID NOT WANT TO PUT THEM UP I FELT THAT CAN GET EMBARRASSING FOR US SOMETIMES WITH OUR HOME THE WAY IT LOOK, NOT THAT WE ARE EMBARRASSED BUT WHEN YOU DO SEE OTHER HOMES ON THE BLOCK IT IS LES VALUE LOOK IN HOME AND WE WANT SOMETHING BETTER FOR MY GRANDFATHER. THESE ARE THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD MOBILE HOMELESS YOU HAVE TO PASS TO GET TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THIS IS PART OF THE 25 MOBILE HOME PARK ANOTHER MOBILE HOME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND THEN THIS IS JUST DIFFERENT HOPES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOW THERE IS NOT A UNIFORMED HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE NARCED. IT IS MIXED. HOMES THAT ARE FALLING, PARKING LOT YOU ARE NOT SURE WHERE THE DOOR IS THERE ARE SO MANY COLORS AND PIECES OF PLYWOOD ON THE HOUSE. AGAIN THIS IS A COUPLE MORE OF UNUNIFORMED HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS -- THAT IS A SMALL SHED IN THE BACK THAT WILL BE REMOVED. I DID HAVE A TEST DONE BECAUSE I WAS TOLD IT IS BEST TO HAVE IT DONE BEFORE SO THEY HAD EVERYTHING BASED THAT WEED NEED AND THEY HAVE, THEY WILL EMPTY THE OLD IS FILL AND ABANDON THE OLD ONE. IN CONCLUSION WE ASK A DETERIORATED STRUCTURE REPLACED WITH A MODERN CODE COMPLIANT RESIDENCE. 
          IT WILL IMPROVE PROPERTY APPEARANCE, SAFETY, AND INCREASE FUNCTIONAL LIVING SPACE. 
          WE COMMITTED TO THE ON GOING CARE AS IN REGULAR UP KEY AND MAINTENANCE IS ENSURED IN THE AND ANY HOME YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT. MAINTAINED MOBILE HOMES APPRECIATE WITH LAND VALUE AS ALONG IT IS PROPERLY INSTALLD AND MAINTAINED. 
          THE PROPOSE THE MOBILE HOME IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE MIX OF DEVELOPMENT DEMONSTRATES THE AREA IS NOT UNIFORM HOUSE AND TYPES THE PROPOSE THE HOME WILL HELP A HOUSEHOLD AND ALLOW ME TO APPLIES DAILY CARE FOR THE OWNER AND ALLOWS MR. SIMMS TO STAY IN A FAMILIAR VIPIR BENEFICIAL FOR HIS OVER ALL WELL BEING. 
          >>  THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD? MS. SPIEGEL? HE WILL BE NEXT. THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          YOU DID MENTION YOU WILL REPLACE THE SEPTIC I SAW. >> YES, MA'AM. 
          >>  THIS HOUSE IS WAY MORE THAN TWICE AS BIG. 876 SQUARE FEET YOU LIVED. 
          >>  UNTIL I STARTED MY FAMILY. I DID. >>  IT WAS FIVE OF US. 
          I WOULD NOT TRADE IT ARE IF THE WORLD. >>  AND SO YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE PROPERTY. I LOVE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE IS SOMETHING QUAINT IS BEAUTIFUL. THERE ARE PRETTY COLORFUL PLACE ITS IS SWEET AND DEAR. 
          I THINK SOMEBODY SENT PICTURES IN OPPOSITION LETTER AND A COUPLE PHOTOS WERE OF MANUFACTURED HOMES, WHICH I KNOW. I WILL BE HONEST I KNOW EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OPINION I THINK THE TWO HOUSES THAT IS NOT MY STYLE THEY ARE BUILT ALL OVER. EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN. HONESTLY, I TRULY WISH WE COULD BUILT HIM A HOUSE IT IS NOT IN LIKE THERE -- YOU KNOW HOW IT IS TO BUILD A HOUSE. 
          IT IS QUARTER TO HALF MILLION DOLLARS. >> IT IS. 
          >>  THERE IS NO WAY I COULD AFFORD THAT WITH MY FAMILY. HE TAUGHT ME IT IS BETTER TO LIVE IN A PAID FOR SHACK THAN A MANSION NOT YOURS. THAT STUCK WITH ME MY LIFE. 
          YOU KNOW WE JUST ALL WE CAN DO IS ASK. >>  TIMES WE LIVE IN. 
          IT IS A CHALLENGE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>  THANK YOU. 
          >>  MR. LABANOWSKI. >>  I'M GRAD TO SEE YOU ARE REMOVING THAT SHED. 
          >>  YES. HE BUILT IT 20 BUCK A WEEK GROWING UP. 
          NOW IS HE ABLE TO GET AROUND. >>  YEA. IF YOU LIKE HIM TO COME UP. 
          HE IS HEARD OF HEARING OTHERWISE HE WILL BE UP HERE HE CANNOT HERE THE MILITARY AROUND THEM 
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TANKINGS. HE BATHES HIMSELF DRESSES. WE MAKE SURE HE EATS HE WON'T. 
          YOU KNOW UNLESS IT IS PUT IN FRONT OF HIM HE WILL NOT EAT. >> REASON I ASK I NOTICED YOU 
          WILL HAVE STEPS GOING UP THE DOORS OF >>  CORRECT. 
          >> STARTING AT THAT IS SOMETHING I PUT IN MY ORIGINAL NARRATIVE. WE DO WANT TO PUT A RAMP FOR HIM I APOLOGIZE I DID NOT PRINT THAT IT IT IS THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION IF YOU NEED ME TO PULL IT UP WE WANT THAT ON THERE. I'M NOT TECH SAVVY THAT IS WHAT CHAT GAVE ME. THAT WORKS LOOKS GREAT THAT'S WHAT I WILL USE. 
          IT REALLY IS LIKE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT HIS HOUSE I SAID I'M BEYOND GRATEFUL THE END OF THE DAY THAT'S WHERE I ALWAYS WENT BACK HAD I HAD NOWHERE TO GO. IT IS JUST IT BROUGHT TIERCE TO SEE WHAT COULD BE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. AND SO -- YEA. 
          >>  GOOD TO SEE YOU WILL PUT A RAMP IN. >>  THANK YOU. 
          >> MR. MATOVINA? >>  JACOB DOES A RAMP COUNT AS A SETBACK 
          >> WE ARE NOT GOING TO MEASURE A RAMP DEPENDING ON SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE OR DECK IT CAN INCLUDE THE SETBACK BUT AT THIS HEIGHT WE ARE UNDER WHERE WE WOULD START MEASURING FOR SETBACKS. 
          >>  ABSOLUTELY. I SAID I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING ALL MY T'S WERE CROSSD AND DOTS I'S IT IS INTIMIDATE TO TRY TO YOU KNOW BUT ALL I CAN DO IS ASK. 
          >>  THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AFTER YOUR GRANDFATHER. >>  THANK YOU. 
          >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? IF NOT DO WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? WE DID RECEIVE LETTERS 
          >> COME FORWARD TO MICROPHONES STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          >>  DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT? HELLO. 
          THANK YOU FOR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I'M MICHAEL GA LETTER I LIVE AT 985 SOUTH WHITNEY STREET. WITH MY WIFE CONNIE HANSEN. WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE IN 2013 SPECIAL PUT A LOT OF TIME, ENERGY AND HARD EARNED MONEY INTO IT. 
          THERE WERE MANY THINGS THAT NEEDED REPAIRING AND UPGRADING WHICH WE DID. 
          OUR CURRENT LANDSCAPING WAS LOOKING GREAT UNTIL A FEW DAYS AGO WHEN THE BIG FREEZE TOOK IT WAY BACK. IT WILL RETURN SOME DAY. OVER YEARS WE HAVE SEEN A WONDERFUL PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT IN NEIGHBORHOOD. MANY HOMES REPAIRED. 
          UPGRADED AND PAINTED. ALSO, WE NOW HAVE SEVERAL NICELY DONE NEWLY BUILT HOUSES ON PREVIOUSLY VACANT LOTS. THERE IS CHANGE THAT HAS HAPPENED WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS PATTERN HAS BROUGHT US MANY NEW AND TERRIFIC NEIGHBORS. AT THEM POINT, I'M SUGGESTING THE PLANNING AND ZONING DENY THE REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT ON ALLOW FOR A MOBILE HOME. AFTER SPEAKING WITH MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS THEY HAVE EXPRESSED POTENTIALLY NEGATIVE IMPACT OF HAVING A MOBILE HOME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          MANY PEOPLE THEIR HOUSE IS THEIR LARGEST ASSET. AND -- I WILL BE BRIEF AND 
          PITHANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. >>  THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE IT. COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND 
          YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. MS. SPIEGEL WILL KEEP TRACK. >> HI. 
          I'M CANDICE CAPUANO I LIVE AT 510 COLUMBUS I DON'T HAVE FANCY PAPERS. 
          BUT I ALSO WANTED TO OPPOSE MOBILE, THERE ARE ALOST MOBILES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CURRENTLY AS Y'ALL IS SEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. YOU KNOW Y'ALL DID THE ONE PRIOR TO US WHERE MOBILE WAS ALREADY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GETTING MOVED. 
          AND THAT SITUATION I CAN UNDERSTAND BUT THIS IS A NEW SITUATION. 
          IT REALLY LOGICALLY DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. FOR A 95 YEAR OLD MAN YOU KNOW -- VERY CLOSE TO THE END OF HIS LIFE THIS IS REALLY A HOME SET UP FOR HIS GRAND KIDS. 
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WHICH I RESPECTFULLY SHE DOES ALREADY OWN A PROPERTY. THE -- SHE ALSO MENTIONED THAT THE VALUE OF A MOBILE HOME INCREASED ALONG WITH LAND VALUE. THAT IS NOT ACCURATE INFORMATION. THE MOBILE ITSELF DECLINES NOT BEING A SOLID STRUCTURE. 
          THE LAND VALUE WILL INCREASE. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ALL WORKING FOR. 
          WE DO HAVE AN AMAZING NAUSHGD. NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU FOR NOTICING. 
          IT IS AN E COLLECTIC GROUP. EVERYBODY IS WING ON BUILDING UP. 
          AND NOT DOWN. I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE IT SAY. 
          BUT YOU KNOW I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE TALKED BODY YOU KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF AMAZING RESOURCES. 
          IN THIS COUNTY THE TOWN. THAT IS THE BEST TOWN IN THE WORLD. 
          YOU KNOW -- WE COULD GET RESOURCES TO COME TOGETHER THERE IS NOT A PERSON IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WOULD NOT JOIN FORCES AND PUT IN ELBOW GREASE TO HELP MR. SIMMS GET HIS HOUSE BACK TO FUNCTIONAL THAT HE COULD LIVE THE REST OF HIS LIFE THERE. 
          EVERY SING WILL ONE OF US ARE WILLING TO DO THAT. AND THERE ARE AMAZING COMPANIES IN TOWN WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP FOR FREE. TALKING ABOUT A VERY LARGE NEW NOBLE MOBILE HOME AND THE SITE WORK. IT IS CONFUSING AS TO WHY THAT EXPENSE IS POSSIBLE. BUT -- BUILDING AN ACTUAL HOME IS NOT. 
          THANK YOU. >>  THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          I'M NANCY SNELL. I LIVE AT 497 COLUMBUS STREET. I WANT TO APPLAUD MR. FLEET FOR CARING FOR HER GRANDFATHER AS ONE WHO CARED FOR MY PARENTS. MR. SIMMS I WANT TO KNOW HIS SECRET YOU LOOK AMAZING FOR 95. BUT MY CONCERNS ARE I MOVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH I LOVE AND APPRECIATE YOUR COMPLIMENT. IN 2017. IN THOSE YEARS IT CHANGED DRASTICALLY. THE NUMBER OF SITE BUILT HOMES OUT WAY MOBILE HOMES WHICH HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. YES, I AGREE MOBILE HOME WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT I WOULD LIKE SITE BUILT HOMES. THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF HOMES THAT NEED WORK IS AND THERE ARE SO MANY NEW BUILDS IN THE TIME I HAVE BEEN THERE. AND THEY ARE NOT ALL SLANTY WEIRD GROUP WE HAVE A FEW OF THOSE. BUT THEY ARE AMAZING HOMES AND ALSO SOME THAT ARE BEING WERE REALLY AND VERY BAD CONDITION IT IS AMAZING IT SEE SOMEONE COME IN AND REMOSSD AND THEY LOOK SO MUCH BETTER. MY OTHER CONCERN WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS IS WOULD THAT OPEN THE DOOR FOR MORE ZONING APPROVALS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OBVIOUSLY WE ARE HERE BECAUSE THE ZONING IS NOT FOR THAT MOBILE HOME AND APPROVE THAT REQUEST. AND AGAIN I DO APPRECIATE THE REASON FOR IT. 
          BUT MY CONCERN IS CONDITIONING THE PATTERN OF EQUIP AM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THE SINGLE FAMILY SITE BUILT HOMES UPON I COUNTED THE HOMES I THOUGHT MIGHT HAVE GOT A LETTER ABOUT THIS. 
          I THINK IT IS 24 HOMES THE ONE MOBILE HOME THAT WAS IN THE PICTURES I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WAS IN THE 300 FEET THAT IS THE ONLY ONE RIGHT NEAR THERE. THERE WERE EIGHT HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN UPDATED SINCE I MOVED THERE AND FIVE THAT ARE BRAND-NEW BUILDS AND THAT IMMEDIATE PROXIMITY. QUESTIONS I HOW MANY WOULD LIVE IN THE HOME? HOW WOULD THAT WILL IMPACT HOW MANY CARS ON THE LOT? THE NOISE FACTOR? YEA. AND -- HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE IF THIS GOES THROUGH? HOW LONG WOULD IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE LAST HEARING, THE TIME FRAME HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE? WHERE WOULD MR. SIMMS LIVE DURING THAT TIME AS WELL. SO, MY I -- APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND INPUT AND SUPPORT WHATEVER DECISION IS MADE. I WILL ALWAYS WELCOME NEW 
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NEIGHBORS. MY POSITION THE REQUEST BE DENIED. 
          THANK YOU. >>  THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK. 
          IF NOT. YOU LIKE TO RESPOND AND >>  YES, I WOULD. 
          I UNDERSTAND IT HAS BEEN I DID SPEAK TO MICHAEL CALLED ME ON PHONE. 
          AND EXPRESSED A CONCERN ABOUT MR. SIMMS AGE. LIKE I SAID HE IS HEALTHY WE WERE GOING TO BRING IN HIS DOCTORS. I MEAN HE GET LABS FOR HIM EVERY 3 MONTHS WE DON'T KNOW WHEN GOD HAS OUR TIME WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE. 
          THE SETTING UP FOR THEIFIY FAMILY I MENTIONED THAT ONCE MR. SIMMS PASSED THAT WILL GO TO MY SISTER AND MYSELF. SO WE WOULD DO PLAN LIVING THERE IS AND THAT IS BUT OUR FOCUS NOW IS GIVING SOMETHING FOR MR. SIMMS TO LIVE BETTER. I DON'T THINK THEY CAN GET IT YOU KNOW FIXED UP FOR HIM TO LIVE IN SAFELY BUT I'M NOT THERE. 
          LIKE I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE HE CAN WALK AROUND HE NEEDS CARE. 
          HE IS 95. I SAID HE WILL NOT EAT UNLESS SOMEBODY PUT IN FRONT OF HIM EVERY MORNING I BRING SOMETHING FOR HIM OTHERWISE HE WILL NOT EAT. 
          BEFORE YOUATE SOMETHING. NO, DIDN'T JUST THE COFFEE. I STOPPED GOT HIM SOMETHING I KNEW WE WOULD BE HERE FOR AWHILE. NOT ABOUT SETTING IF YOU MEAN FOR MY FAMILY IT IS REGARDLESS I BRING HIM WHEREVER HE WILL BE WITH ME NOT THE HOUSE. 
          THAT IS HIS PROPERTY THAT HE HAD THE LAST 50 PLUS YEARS. HE WAS BORN IN ST. AUGUSTINE. 
          HE HAS BEEN HERE FOREVER. I JUST HAVE TOUP ROOT HIM COMPLETELY. 
          IT WAS MENTIONED I OWN PROPERTY I OWN A CONDO HE WILL NOT LIVE IN AN HOA AND I HAD TROUBLE WITH MY HOA OVER THE DUMBEST THINGS I'M TALKING LIKE A CHAIR OFF THE PORCH. 
          I UNDERSTAND THEY THINK I OWN PROPERTY AND PIDO OWN APE CONDO I WILL SELL IT IN WHAT LITTLE PROCEEDS FROM THAT HOW I PLAN ON PUTTING DOWN PAYMENT FOR HIM A MOBILE HOME. 
          THAT IS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU AFFORD THAT. THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE IN PRICE WHEN IT COME YOU HIRE SEVERAL CONTRACT ARORS. MANY PEOPLE PUTTING HANDS IN THAT A MOBILE HOME IS BUILT THE SAME WAY A SITE HOUSE HOME IS JUST AN ENCLOSED ENVIRONMENT AND NOT A SOLID FOUNDATION ON THE FOUNDATION THAT IS WHAT OTHER HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE ALREADY ON. 540 AND 550 ON THE SAME TYPE OF FOUNDATION AS WELL 
          >> >>  THANK YOU. >>  MS. SPIEGEL? 
          >>  YES. >>  OKAY. I DID SLEUTHING. 
          THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1958. >>  OKAY. IT IS ALMOST AS OLDS AS ME AND I'M OLD. I WOULD NOT THINK THAT. BUT IT IS AN OLDER HOME AND UNFORTUNATELY NOBODY PUT IN THE WORK THAT NEEDED TO. VERY LITTLE. 
          BUT EVEN -- HE BUILT THE FRONT OF THAT HOUSE. YOU NOTICE DIFFERENCE. 
          THE VERY FRONT IS WOOD THE OTHER HAS THE SLAT PANELS HE BUILT THE FRONT. THAT IS FUNNY. 
          IT IS AN OLDER HOME. YEA. >> I WANTED TO THANK YOUR 
          GRANDFATHER FOR SERVING. >>  YES. >>  THANK YOU. 
          >>  THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >>  THERE. >>  COME UP HERE. 
          >>  [APPLAUSE]. I WANT IT APPLAUD YOU. I WOULD NOT BE ANYTHING WITHOUT THIS MAN THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO. HE IS AMAZING I WANT TO TAKE CARE OF HIM. 
          >>  YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD CARES AND CONCERNED ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES I THINK THIS IS REASONABLE I 
          WILL MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, SIR? >>  THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THANK YOU. MAY YOU HAVE A LONG LIFELIKE ME! YOU BELIEVE IN GOD YOU WILL HAVE 
          IT. >>  AMEN. >>  I SAID TO MY SISTER THE OTHER DAY I DON'T MEAN THIS IN A WAY TAKING CARE OF AN ELDER PERSON YOU DON'T REALIZE THE AMOUNT OF FUNERALS YOU GO TO I ANSWER TAKEN HIM TO FOUR ALONE. HE TAUGHT ME YOU CELEBRATE LIFE. 
          IT IS JUST LITTLE THINGS THAT YOU NEVER IMAGINE BUT I WOULD NOT TRADE IT. 
          PEOPLE WE WILL GO PLACE YOU ARE LUCKY TO HAVER HAD. NO I'M LUCKY TO HAVE HIM. 
          IN REALITY HE IS MY STEP GRANDFATHER. MARRIED INTO THE FAMILY AND TOOK 
          CARE OF ME WHEN I WAS BORN HE IS MY DAD TO ME. >>  SHE WAS NOT BIGGER THAN THAT 
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HE IS A GOOD PERSON I'M WANTING TO GIVE HIM SOMETHING IS THAT IS WITHIN MY MEANS I DON'T WANT TO TURN A MORTGAGE TO HELPFUL A MILLION. IN THREE YEARS SOMETHING HAPPENS ANDY WE CAN'T PAY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS FINANCIALLY FOR MY FAMILY I KNOW WILL FIT. 
          HOW MANY LIVE THERE. MY CYST ARE DOES LIVE THERE NOW SHE WILL. 
          THIS IS FIVE ADULTS I HAVE TWO KIDS AND TWO MORE THEY ARE NOT MINE BUT THEY ARE MINE BUT WE ARE NOT MARRIED. I DON'T INCLUDE. BUT THAT IS FIVE ME, MY SISTER, SON AND DAUGHTER. THAT IS WHERE THE FIVE BEDROOMS COME FROM. 
          OUTSIDE WE TRIED NOT TO PUT A MONSTROSITY ON THE OUTSIDE IT LOOKS SIMILAR. 
          >>  I WILL MAKE AIL MOTION. >>  MR. GREEN. >>  I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION I 
          APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE WE NEED TO MOVE ALONG. >>  THANK YOU. 
          >>  YOU WANT TO MOVE. >>  I WILL MAKE A MOTION. YOU WILL BE OKAY WITH A YEAR? 
          >> S WHY. >>  MOTION TO APPROVE SPECIAL USE PERMIT MINOR 25-13 SIMMS 
          MOBILE HOME AND 10 CONDITION PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >>  I WILL SECOND THE MOTION 
          >> MR. OLSON. >>  I WAS GOING TO SECOND IT. >>  WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND 
          ON THE TABLE. SO -- WE ARE VOTING. >>  PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          >>  CONGRATULATIONS. >>  THANK YOU. JURY ROOM ALL RIGHT. 
          WE ARE DONE. THANK YOU. >>  OKAY. 
          [3. ZVAR 2025-24 51A Beachcomber Way. Request for a Zoning Variance to Section 6.01.03.E.3 of the Land Development Code to allow for a reduced second Front Yard setback of 7'6" in lieu of the required fifteen (15) feet for a Non-Conforming Lot of Record located in Residential, General (RG-1 ) zoning to allow for an addition to the existing single family home, specifically located at 51A Beachcomber Way.]
NEXT IS A ZONING VARIANCE FOR BEACHCOMBER WAY, HOSEY MUSN'TS ON WE NEED EX PARTE FIRST. 
          >>  SO MR. LABANOWSKI? I VISITED THE SITE. >>  MS. SPIEGEL. 
          >>  SITE VISIT, >>  MR. OLSON. >>  VISIT AND DRIVE BY THE SITE 
          PRETTY MUCH EVER DAY. >>  I DO DRIVE BY THE SITE REGULARLY. 
          AND I HAVE NOTED THE PROPERTY. THE FOOTS OF BRIDGE THERE MR. GREEN. 
          KNOW WHERE LOCATION IS AND DRIVE BY. MR. PRESIDENT MUNOZ THE FLOOR IS 
          YOURS. >> I'M TONI MUNOZ THE OWNER OF 518 BEACHCOMBER A ZONING VARIANCE ASK. THE OVER VIEW OF THE PROPERTY OVER HAVE YOU IS I SHARED ON BEACHCOMBER ZONED RG1 RESIDENTIAL GENERAL. FUTURE LAND USES RESIDENTIAL, COASTAL AND THE LOT TYPE IS OBVIOUSLY, IN THIS AREA A LOT OF NONCONFORMING LOTS ON RECORD. 
          THAT IS THE CURRENT LOT TYPE AND THE REQUEST TO REDUCE THE SETBACK FROM 15 FEET TO 7, 6 INCHES I WILL SHARE MORE AS TO WHY. THE LOCATION MAP YOU SEE THERE IT IS CADDY CORNER TO THE PUBLIC'S SHOPPING CENTER. IT IS ON THE CORNER. 
          AS YOU ALL VISITED THE PROPERTY. IT IS ON THE CORNER OF BEACHCOMBER AND COASTAL OHIGHWA. 
          MAP YOU SEE THERE THAT THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IS ON THE NORTH/EAST PART OF THE PARCEL. 
          IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SURFSIDE AREA. SUBDIVISION UNIT A. 
          AND THE SURROUNDING AREA DEVELOPED WITH MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          THE FUTURE LAND USE YOU WILL SEE -- THE CURRENTLY RESIDENTIAL C. 
          AND THEN OBVIOUSLY GOING INTO COASTAL THERE IS A MIX THIS IS A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THE FUTURE LAND USE. MORE DETAIL ON THE ZONING MAP. OTHERS SURROUNDING ZONING DESIGNATIONS RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY, RS THREE, COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY TOURISM, TOWN CENTER 
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MIXED USE ASK PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. THE PROPOSE THE SITE PLAN THE EXISTING RESIDENCE PART OF THE REASON WE ASK ARE FOR THE ZONE VARIANCE IS DUE TO THE EXISTING LOCATION OF THE CONCERN RESIDENCE AND LOOKING AT THE ADDITION TO THE -- GET MY GPS 
          HERE CALIBRATED >> ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF OF THE PROPERTY AND PUSEE THERE F. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SQUARE FEET OF THE LOT IT IS 5, 170. AND WITH THE PROPOSED ADDITION IT IS 1, 256. WHICH DOES SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND THIS GIVES YOU VISIBILITY TO HOW THAT WOULD PLAY OUT. THE HARDSHIPS IN THE JUSTIFICATION. CORNER LOT. HAS TWO FRONT ORDER YOURS. 
          AND THAT RESTRICTS THE BUILDABLE AREA. EXISTING STRUCTURE I SHARED PLACES LIMITATIONS ON THE EXPANSION. AND THEN THE LOT IS A NONCONFORMING LOT OF RECORD. AND THE LITTLE ENFORCEMENT UPON PREVENTS HOME IMPROVEMENT. 
          THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATABILITY AND IMPACT THE NEIGHBOR IN THE BACK HAS A HOME LARGER THAN THIS ONE. IT WILL NOT BLOCK LIGHT OR AIR TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. 
          THAT IS ALWAYS PRESERVED. I SHARED WITH RSPECT TO THE SQUARE FEET OF THE LOT, AND THEN THE IMPROVED STRUCTURE WITHIN THE LOT IT MEETS THE SURFACE. AND THE FLOOR AREA RATIO LIMITS. 
          WE WERE AWARE ABOUT DOING THAT AND PRESERVING THAT AND WORKING WITH AN ENGINEER TO ENSURE THAT WAS PRESERVED. ONE OF THE THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL AREA. 
          WE FAMILIAR WITH IT. THIS IS TRUE ENHANCEMENT TO THE AREA. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF OTHER NONCONFORMING PROPERTIES. WHILE IT IS STILL WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PRESERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER. THAT IS ALWAYS THE TOP PRIORITY. 
          AND THEN WE DID NOT RECEIVE ADVERSE DEPARTMENTAL REVIEW COMMENTS WHEN WE SUBMITTED THIS. 
          THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE FUTURE PROPERTY. THE STRUCTURE TO THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. OF COURSE. THERE HAS BEEN RENOVATIONS TO IT. AND IT IS THE RIGHT THE RIGHT SUBSECTION OF THAT PROPERTY IS THE VALUE AT CONSTRUCTION FOR THE PROPERTY. THIS GIVES YOU MORE -- VISIBILITY TO THE FRONT AND REAR AND THE LEFT SIDE IS PRESIDENT RIGHT SIDE ELEVATION. 
          AND THEN THE PROPOSE THE ROOF PLAN ENSURING THAT EVERYTHING IS, OF COURSE, DONE TO CODE. 
          AND ENSURING THAT WE CONTINUE DRIVING VALUE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THIS IS THE CURRENT STRUCTURE. YOU KNOW THIS IS WHERE THE -- THE FRONT ENTRANCE CASES SOUTH. 
          AND -- AND -- THE NEW STRUCTURE WILL BE YOU KNOW A FAST IN ATTACHEDED THIS SIDE. 
          WILL BE THE NEW STRUCTURE WILL BE ON THE RIGHT OF THAT DOOR. HERE IS THE VIEW FROM BEACHCOMBER WAY. AND THAT'S LITERALLY THE FRONT ENTRANCE TO THE DRIVEWAY. 
          THIS IS THE -- LEFT REAR OF THE EXI EXISTING HOME. 
          THIS IS THE STANDING ACROSS FROM COASTAL HIGHWAY THIS IS BEACHCOMBER WAY. 
          THIS IS CADDY CORNER IS CAN CORNER OF BEACHCOMBER AND COASTAL HIGHWAY AS WELL. 
          THEM GIVES YOU MORE VIZABILITY WHERE IT WILL BE ATTACHED TO. AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT HAS BEEN 
          MAPPED OUT DRAWN IN THE PLANS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU. 
          >>  THANK YOU >> >>  ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD 
          >> >>  MR. OLSON? >>  YEA I AM UPON SURE THAT THE 
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ADDITION YOU ARE -- SHOWING US WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE PROPERTY IT WOULD CAUSE AN OVER ALL IMPROVEMENT. I'M STRUGGLING WITH BASIS FOR HARDSHIP, YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS 
          THE LARGER PARCELS IN THE AREA >> THAT IT WAS SPLIT OFF FROM A LARGE ARE PROPERTY IN 1991 THROUGH THAT'S WHAT THE INFORMATION SHOWS. THE -- INABILITY TO ENLARGE A HOUSE JUST IF THAT IS WITHOUT SOME OTHER BASIS FOR A HARDSHIP. I'M NOT SURE THAT MEETS THE STANDARDS THAT WE ARE -- ASKED TO -- CONSIDER THESE FOR. SOMETIMES IF THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT OTHERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE BEEN GRANTED THE SAME TYPE OF VARIANCE, THAT CAN BE A REASON BUT -- APPARENTLY, THERE ARE NO OTHER VARIANCES THAT HAVE BEEN GRANTED. AND THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS APPARENTLY RESPECTING THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. SO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO 
          RESPOND. >> I DO, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 
          IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM SPEAKING TO A LOT OF RESIDENTS THERE AND CURRENT OWNERS ORIGINAL OWNERS IF ARE A LONG TIME WITH NO INTEREST ON ADDING OR IMPROVING THE CURRENT FACADE AND LOOK OF THEIR HOME. NOW, IF I THINK THAT THIS WILL REALLY START AND MOTIVATE POTENTIALLY HOME IN BAD SHAPE AND DESPAIR TO POTENTIALLY ADD VALUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN MY OPINION, IT NEEDS IT. SO AS FAR AS IT RELATES TO WHETHER OTHER HOMEOWNERS HAVE HAD A VARIANCE APPROVED, I ASK HOW MANY HAVE APPLIED. AND AGAIN, THAT IS NOT YOU KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM IN TALKING TO THE OWNERS, THERE IS NO OPPOSITION TO WHAT IT IS WE ARE TRYING TO DO. WE WILL PRESERVE ALL OF THE 
          IMPERVIOUS REQUIREMENTS OF ST.JOHN'S COUNTY. >>  ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          >>  DIDN'T SEE YOU. GO AHEAD. >>  HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE OWNER 
          AT 2866 COASTAL HIGHWAY? >>  I HAVE NOT MR. LABANOWSKI. >>  BECAUSE YOU ARE PUTTING IN TWO STORY BACK THERE WHICH OVER LOOKS THEIR POOL I WAS WONDERING. 
          >>  I HAVE WELL, I HAVE NOT TALKED TO THEM DIRECTLY BUT MET AND SAID HELLO IN PASSING. 
          >>  ALL RIGHT. >>  THANK YOU. >>  AND JUST I WANT MAKE SURE THAT WE TALK THROUGH THIS. IT IS YES IT WILL BE A SECOND FLOOR AND THAT WAS DONE TO PRESERVE THE IMPERVIOUS AREA. SECOND FLOOR IS A VAULTED CEILING THE WINDOWS ON THE SIDE WOULD NOT LOOK TOWARD THE NEIGHBOR'S POOL, YOU NOTICE THAT ON THE ELEVATIONS I SHOWD AND I 
          CAN SHOW IF YOU LIKE. >>  OKAY. THERE IS ONE WINDOW ON THE RIGHT SIDE ELEVATION WHICH WE CANY ARE MOVE. THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY OPENING GOING THERE. THAT WINDOW IS NOT GO HADE I'M SORRY. 
          >>  NO THAT WINDOW IS MORE FOR SUN THAN ATTACHED A BEDROOM OR ANYTHING. 
          >>  CORRECT. BATHROOM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING. 
          >>  A SMALL ONE. >>  CORRECT. >>  YOU ARE WELCOME. 
          >> MS. SPIEGEL. >>  SO, TO MR. OLSON. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ALL OF THE HOUSES ON THAT STREET ALL ARE ABOUT THE SAME DISTANCE, THEY WERE ALL ENKROEFRP CROACHING IN IN THE SETBACK THE REASON YOU HAVE TO COME YOU DON'T WANT TO MOVE THE WHOLE HOUSE BACK YOU WANT TO START WITH WHAT IS ALREADY THERE THAT CONSTITUTES A HARDSHIP. 
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EXISTING AN EXISTING PROBLEM IS AND EVERY HOUSE ON THE STREET IS WAS BUILT THAT WAY. 
          >>  AND I WANT IT PRESERVE. >> YOU KNOW IN MY OPINION. I WANT PRESERVE THE WAY THAT IT WAS STRUCTURED I WANT ON ADD TO THE RIGHT OF IT. TO ANSWER YOU. 
          >>  YES. >>  THANK YOU. >>  YOU ARE WELCOME. 
          >>  MR. OLSON. I LOOIC TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS JUST SAID. 
          -- I'M READING ON PAGE 10, A LINE REVIEW BY STAFF FOUND THE PROPERTY SOUTH OF BEACHCOMBER WAY LISTED THEM APPEAR TO HAVE SIMILAR FRONT YARD SETBACKS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DOES THAT NOT MEAN THE CURRENT SUBJECT PROPERTY SETBACK? AND I INTERPRETED THAT TO MEAN THEY WERE ALL WITHIN THE EXISTING SETBACK THAT YOU ARE NOW SEEKING A VARIANCE FOR. 
          >>  THAT IS THE WAY I READ THIS. IS THERE A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION. 
          GI WILL TRY TO ADDRESS THAT. THROUGH THE CHAIR. >>  MS. SPIEGEL POINTED OUT THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED IN THE SAME LOCATION. THEY ARE ALL NONCONFORMING LOTS AND ALL THE BUILDINGS ARE NONCONFORMING ON THE SETBACK. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT SETBACK 
          IT IS NOT THE REQUIRED 15. >>  OKAY. >> JUST SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          SO -- OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG THAT STREET ARE IN ENCROACHING TO THE REQUIRED SETBACK. 
          >>  THAT'S CORRECT. >>  THANK YOU I MISINTERPRETED THAT. 
          >> OTHER QUESTIONS? >>  SEEING NONE. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO 
          SPEAK? COME FORWARD. >> SEEING NONE WE ARE BACK IN THE AGENCY. FOR ANY -- A MOTION AT THIS POINT. 
          MR. GREEN? >>  QUESTION FOR JAKE. THIS IS A NONCONFORMING LOT? 
          >>  YES , SIR, THAT'S CORRECT. IT IS ALSO A CORNER LOT? >>  RIGHT. 
          >>  SO THERE ARE TWO HARDSHIPS. I WILL MAKE A MOTION THOSE ARE TWO HARD SHIP IT IS TO APPROVE THE ZONING VARIANCE. 51A BEACHCOMBER ROAD. BASED ON 5 FINDINGS AND 7 
          CONDITIONS IN THE REPORT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. GREEN A SECOND FROM MR. LABANOWSKI. ANY DISCUSSION? TIME TO VOTE. 
          PASSES 6-1. CONGRATULATIONS. >>  THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND 
          CONSIDERATION. >>  THANK YOU >> 
          >>  WE WILL TAKE A BREAK NOT NECESSARILY NOW DOES ANYONE NEED TO TAKE ONE NOW. 
          LOOKS TO ME MOST OF THE PEOPLE HERE ARE FOR ITEM FIVE. THAT ONE CAN TAKE AWHILE. 
          SO -- WE WILL TAKE A BREAK AFTER THIS SO MR. WHITEHOUSE YOU ARE UP FOR A'S VOCABULARYING 207 
          [4. REZ 2025-16 SR 207/Wildwood. REZ 2025-16 SR 207/Wildwood, a request to rezone approximately 1.48 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Commercial General (CG) with conditions. Located on the northeast corner of Wildwood Drive and State Road 207.]
          WILD THERE THE WOOD AND EX PARTE, MR. LABANOWSKI? >>  I HAVE VISITED THE SITE. 
          >>  MR. SPIEGEL. >>  VISIT, SIR >> 
          >>  I VISITED THE SITE ON THE SECOND. >>  I ALSO WENT TO THE SITE YESTERDAY AND WALKED BOTH THE SOUTH AND THE WEST WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY. 
          I COULD NOT GET OVER OAT EASTERN SIDE THE HOUSE IN THERE. >>  SO. 
          I WILL HAVE QUESTIONS. MR. GREEN? >>  MR. WHITEHOUSE. 
          >> YES , SIR, THANK YOU UPON AJS MEMBER JAMES WHITEHOUSE ST.JOHN'S LAW GROUP IN ST.JOHN'S COUNTY, FLORIDA I'M HERE FOR REZONING 2025-16, THIS IS AN ASK FOR REZONE TOING COMMERCIAL GENERAL FOR INFILL ZONE NOTHING THE MAKED USE DISTRICT. LOCATION AS YOU KNOW AND PROBABLY MOST ARE FAMILIAR WITH IT IS AT THE CORNER OF 207 AND WILDWOOD A LOT OF US DRIVE. 
          IT IS ON THE SOUTH/EASTERN CORNER. WHICH IS ACROSS FROM GAS STATION IN RAYS. AS YOU MAY KNOW OR I TELL YOU THE PROPERTY IS 1.48 ACRES. 
          IN THE MIDDLE OF MAKED USE UP IS AND DOWN 207. AND IT IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM 
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THE AUTOMOBILE REPAIR SHOP IN THE SAME AREA. THAT IS RAYS COLLISION SERVICE CENTER. CI ZONING WITHIN COUNTY. THAT IS A CIRCLE K? CI AS WELL. AND YOU HAVE THE RV AND BOAT STORAGE AN IW. 
          DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE SAME INTERSECTION. WE ARE FIGURE FOR COMMERCIAL GENERAL ON THE MIXED USE INTERSECTION. THIS IS WITHIN OUR MIXED USE DISTRICT. YOU SEE ALL UP AND DOWN 207 AND ON THE INTERSECTION ITSELF. ALL MIXED USE. I TALKED ABOUT THE ZONING THAT SURROUND THIS. 
          THIS IS VERY COMPATIBLE AND COMPARABLE ON THIS INTERSECTION. AGAIN, THERE IS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE. AND USES IN THE PUD AND INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE. 
          THIS IS TO REZONE THE OPEN RAURL TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL >> AND WE HAVE SUPPLIED THE PROPOSE THE SITE PLAN IT IS 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL BUILDING FOR THE USE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS YOU SEE WITHIN THE PACKET. IN FACT T THIS APPLICANT IS ALREADY IN PROCESS THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE THEY HAVE REVIEWED A NUMBER OF THINGS ON THE SITE AS WELL. AS YOU KNOW. MOST OF THE TIME WITH A STRAIGHT REW ZONING YOU ARE NOTIT COMMITTED TO THE PLAN BUT I WILL TELL YOU IN THE STAFF WILL TELL YOU THIS IS ALREADY IN THE PIPELINE WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS AND ALL FALL IN THE COUNTY CODES AND REGULATIONS. AGAIN, THESE ARE PICTURES. I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN THERE THIS IS WILDWOOD TOWARD THE INTERSECTION WITH 207 THE PROPERTY IS ON THE RIGHT WITH THE EXXON STATION ON THE LEFT. YOU SEE 7/11 IN THE BACKGROUND. THIS IS LOOKING IN THE EASTBOUND LANE OF 207 AND BEING LOOING AT THE INTERCEPTION THIS WOULD BE RIGHT THERE ON THE LEFT SIDE. 
          THIS IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF 20 SEARCH LOOKING TOWARD 95 ON THE RIGHT. 
          YOU SEE WHERE THE 7/11 IS AND THE GAS STATION ON THE LEFT. THIS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS STREET WILDWOOD THE GAS STATION AND RAY'S HAS BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS. 
          THIS IS THE PROPERTY ITSELF. IT HAB VAC ANNUAL XHSHL FOR IARIES AND TAXED AS STUFF THIS IS INFILL ZONING FROM O ERROR TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL FOR COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES ON THE MIXED USE INTERSECTION THIS IS MORE DETAIL OF OF THE SITE PLAN AND THE MOST RECENT ONE THAT IS IN THE COMMITTEE WITH THE COUNTY. THIS MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS AND PROMOTES GOALS ANDLESS POS OF OUR PLAN. FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. 
          THIS IS ROUTED TO ALL DEPARTMENTS NO OPEN COMMENTS. AND AS YOU SEE FROM THE PLANNING STAFF REVIEW. THE OVER HOLD PROPOSED ZONING CONSISTENT AND SIMILAR TO THE PROPERTIES IN THE AREA. AGAIN THERE IS NO CORRESPONDENCE THEY RECEIVED. 
          PROVIDE SAYS YOU WITH FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AND ONE CONDITION WE ASK FOR REASONABLE 
          REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >>  THANK YOU. 
          >>  MR. OLSON AS A QUESTION. >> MAY BE MY QUO IS MORE FOR STAFF. 
          I KNOW WE ARE JUST ACTING TODAY ON THE ZONING DESIGNATION. AND AS WE HEARD THERE IS A SEPARATE SITE REVIEW PROCESS GOING FORWARD ADMINISTRATIVE 3 AT THE COUNTY FOR THIS. 
          MY QUESTION OUT OF CURIOSITY LOOKING AT THE SITE IS -- WHAT POINT IS TREE INVENTORY DONE BY APPLICANT? IF ONE IS REQUIRED IN THIS SITUATION? AND I TRYING TO RECALL THE HOW THE LATEST TREE ORDINANCE HANDLES THAT. 
          >>THROUGH THE CHAIR, THIS APPLICATION REQUIRES COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS IS AND DURING XHUSHL CONSTRUCTION REVIEW THE VIPIRAL TEAM ASKS TREE COUNT AND LANDSCAPING PLANS. 
          >>  THERE WILL BE AN EXISTING INVENTORY OF EXISTING POINT. >>  THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO 
          PROVIDE A TREE SURVEY. >>  THANK YOU. >>  ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COUPLE. IN OUR STAFF REPORT PAGE FOUR, IT SHOWS A PHOTO AND FLOOD PLAIN 
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AREA AND SHOW THE NORTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY NORTHERN PART OF THE SCALING TRIANGLE, IT STICKS INTO THE FLOOD WAY OF THE CREEK. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. I READ THE CARTER ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES REPORT. AND IT SAID THAT THERE WAS Z0.01 ACRES OF FLOOD PLAIN IMPACT. 
          THAT IF YOU CALCULATE THAT AREA FOUR FEET THREE POINT FIFTY-SIX SQUARE. 
          THIS BIG. >> YES. >>  AND LISTED THE TREES IN 
          THERE. NO POSSIBLE WAY. >>  I DON'T THINK THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW IS FOR THE WHOLE PROPERTY. THE WETLAND DELINEATION IS THAT IS NOT AN INDICATION WHAT IS THERE. IT IS INTERESTING I ASKED RYAN ABOUT THIS. RYAN, YOU KNOW YOU GOT THIS PIECE THAT IS UP HERE IN THE CORNER THAT IS LIKE SUPER TINY. IT IS THE FIRST TIME STAFF SAID WHY DID YOU PUT ONE FLAG. 
          BECAUSE I WENT THERE AND WE EVALUATED CAN THERE WAS WATER IN THE CORNER HERE. 
          ALL THE STUFF ON THIS SIDE IS WET UPON LANDS. ALL OF THAT WILL NOT BE -- UNLESS SOMEBODY FILLED IT. IT IS THE ONE CORNER. THE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT FOR A STRAIGHT REZONE IS NOT REQUIRED BUT WE KNOW IT IS COMING SPECIAL MOVING FORWARD AND WANT TO BE TRANSPARENTS AND WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD INDICATOR SOMEBODY THOUGHT THERE WAS MORE WETLAND. 
          THERE IS THE TIEN CORPER. >>  FURTHER EAST OF THE PROPERTY THE MAJORITY OF THE FLOOD PLAIN 
          OF MULTIARY CREEK. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >>  THAT IS A LOT OF WETLANDS. 
          MY ISSUE IS THAT I BELIEVE THAT WILL THERE IS GREATER THAN 4.356 SQUARE FEET OF WETLANDS. 
          ALL I KNOW THE EXPERT WENT OUT IS AND EVALUATED IT AND GAVE HIS EXPERT REPORT. 
          AND THAT'S SWHA HE SAID IT WAS. >> I'M CERTIFIED AN EXPERT IN ECLOGICAL 
          >> I THINK THERE IS AN ERROR ESPECIALLY IT LISTS SEVEN TREE SPECIES THERE IS NO WAY THEY 
          WOULD FIT THERE. >>  THIS WERE SEVERAL. I HEARD FROM YOUR STAFF THIS WILL BE REVIEWED IN CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW. IF THAT IS INACCURATE YOUR 
          EXPERT STAFF WILL CALL THAT OUT AS WELL. >>  I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIP JETTING IN THE POTENTIAL FLOOD WAY. IT IS THAT TIP JETTING IN THE POTENTIAL FLOOD WAY OF THE CREEK. I GET THESE MAPS TO SAVE PAPER. 
          THAT GO BACK THAT TIP TO THE RIGHT NOW. LOWER RIGHT NORTHERN TIP. 
          YOU MOVE THIS -- ON TO SIDE. >> YES. WILL THAT BE CONSERVED? 
          >>  THAT WILL BE CONSERVED. THIS IS THEY FURTHER ALONG THAN MOST WHEN THEY COME FOR STRAIGHT REZONING. THIS IS THE CURRENT MAP THAT HAS BEEN ALMOST DONE BEING APPROVED AT THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW. THIS WILL BE THAT SECTION WILL BE PRESERVED. 
          WE ARE NOT TRYING TO PUT RETENTION POND OR ASK FOR FILLING. 
          WE ARE ASKING FOR EXACTLY WHAT YOU SEE HERE. >>  OKAY. 
          THAT WILL BE PRESERVED. >>  YES , SIR >>  YOU MAY REMEMBER WE HAD AN ITEM NORTH OF HERE THAT CORRECTLIED MULLARY CREEK ASK TOLD THAT WOULD BE A BUFFER AND THEN WHEN WE SAW THE ARIAL PHOTOGRAPHS THERE WAS A CUT TO THE EDGE OF CREEK. 
          WANT TO AVOID THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT IN THIS ITEM WE ARE HERE FOR A STRAIGHT REZONING WE LOOK TO SEE IF THE REQUEST FOR COMMERCIAL GENERAL IS APPROPRIATE. 
          ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS WE WANT TO TRANSPARENTS FOLLOW TELL WHAT YOU WE ARE DOING THAT WILL BE REVIEWED BY YOUR STAFF IF THERE IS INFRINGEMENT, THEY HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS. 
          THIS IS WHAT THEY SUBMITTED IN THE COUNTY RECORDS NOW. >>  I'M NOT OPPOSED THIS IT 
          REQUEST. I THINK IT IS WARRANTIED. >>  YES. 
          THE AREA IS MIXED USE. IT TELL BE DEVELOPED. YOU HAVE A LOT OF GREAT AND 
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LARGE LONELY [INAUDILE] ON THE SITE. AND I HATE TO SEE THOSE GO. 
          I DO. I WISH LONELY PINE WAS MADE A PROTECTED TREE IN THE COUNTY LAST YEAR BUT IT WASN'T. SO THAT'S A CONCERN. THERE ARE A FEW SPECIES OUT THERE THAT ARE INDICATIVE OF OTHER TYPE LITTLE OF HABITAT IN VEGETATION SURVEY OUT THERE THAT WERE SCRUBBED SPECIES. I JUST YOU MIGHT CALL THEM TO THAT DID IT, BRIAN? 
          I CAN'T REMEMBER, BEN SOMEBODY THAT WORKS. >>  VISIT YES , SIR 
          >> >>  I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS. >>  THANK YOU, SIR. 
          >>  MAKE SURE THAT THOSE VALUABLE LONELY SAW TIMBER TREES ARE TAKEN CARE OF THEY ARE 
          VALUABLE. >>  YES , SIR. >>  MR. LABANOWSKI. 
          >> QUICK QUESTION. IS THIS PROJECT DISCUSSED WITH THE HOMEOWNER THAT HAS BEEN 
          THERE SINCE 1966? WHAT IS GOING IN THERE? >>  YEA. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS DIRECT COMMUNICATION. NOT BY MYSELF. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF THERE WAS COMMUNICATION WITH THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW MAY BE PUBLIC COMMENT AND I CAN ADDRESS THAT AFTER. WE DID NOT HAVE DIRECT COMMENTS 
          ABOUT THAT. >>  FROM THE PROPERTY, THAT IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED TO THEIR HOUSE IS 65 FEET. A 20 FOOT BUFFER IS THAT GOING TO BE -- LEFT AS IS OR GOING TO BE CLEARED OUT REPLANTED? I THINK OUR INTENT AND AGAIN, GOING TO BE DEVELOPED IN REGARD WITH CODE SAYS. THEY CAN LEAVE WHAT IS THERE OR PART IS THE CAPACITY AND I THINK THAT BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND OSHG ERROR THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN OSHG MAKE BORDER IN THIS BUFFER ZONE. 
          PART THAT. A WALL? I DID NOT BRING THE STAFF 
          REPORTS. JACOB MAY BE ABLE TO TELL US. >> 
          >>  DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD LEAVE AND MEET THE PLANTING REQUIREMENTS. 
          A 20 B STANDARDS SUBSTANTIAL AND IT DOES ULTIMATELY END UP ADDING KEEPING CANOPY TREE ASKS AND HAVING A SIX FOOT FENCE. DOES IN THE DESCRIBE IT IS A SOLID FENCE. 
          >> WANT MAKE SURE WE ARE PROTECTING THAT HOMEOWNER HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 66. 
          AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT GOING IN. >> S WHY. 
          >>  MR. GREEN. >> I'M WAITING TO WHEN YOU GET BACK IN THE AGENCY. 
          >>  OKAY. >>  OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? 
          >>  ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? >>  Y'ALL ARE WAITING FOR ITEM FIVE, I GUESS. OKAY. WE HAVE ONE PERSON TO COME 
          FORWARD. >> I'M THERESA FREEDMAN THE PRESIDENT OF TEMPLE 2055 WILDWOOD. WE NO ONE IN OUR ORGANIZATION EVER REMEMBER IT IS GETS AN ADJACENT PROPERTY NOTICE FROM KB HOMES NOW SURROUNDING OUR PROPERTY AND HAVE TREMENDOUS FLOODING FROM THAT. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT I THINK MR. HILSENBECK SAID ABOUT THIS AREA OF THE PROPERTY. DO WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT WILL BE BUILT THERE, NUMBER ONE, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT FLOODING THERE IS SO MUCH FLOODING FROM KB HOMES WHERE THE RETENTION POND IS IN ADMIT STREET IN WILDWOOD. I'M CONCERNED BODY THIS PROPERTY HAVING AN IMPACT ON THE FLOODING ON THE FLOODING OAT OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD. 
          >>  DO YOU WANT A RESPONSE I WILL LET THE COUNTY STAFF SPEAK TO THAT. 
          THAT IS STANDARD STATEMENT IS WHAT NOT ALLOWED TO FLOOD SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY WITH 
          NEW CONSTRUCTION. >> WE -- THIS IS NOT BEG YOUR PARDON KB HOMES WE ASKED YOU TO CHECK IT OUT AND WE HAVE NOT GOT RESPONSE. THIS IS ABOUT THE NEW PROPERTY. 
          COMING UP AND IS THIS GOING TO CAUSE MORE FLOODING THAN IS OCCURRING. 
          >>  YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TOWNHOUSES TO THE SOUTH. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT NOW. 
          YOU MENTIONED THERE IS A SMALL PORTION THAT IS PERHAP IN IMPACTING THE FLOOD THE -- FLOODING THAT COULD IMPACT FLOODING THAT IS MY CONCERN. WHAT IS GOING THERE. 
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DO WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW AND WILL THIS IMPACT ANY OTHER FLOODING OF THE AREA? 
          >>  I'M GOING TO LET STAFF ADDRESS THAT WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS I DON'T 
          MIND DOING SO I WILL LET STAFF ADDRESS THAT FIRST. >> THANK YOU, SIR. 
          I WANTED TO THE FIRST PART OF THAT PUBLIC COMMENT WAS I BELIEVE YOU SAID TEMPLE? 
          >>  YES >> >>  I HAVE IT MY LIST WE DID PUBLISH A MAILED OUT NOTICE FOR THAT PROPERTY. IT IT IS IN OUR LIST OF AFFIDAVIT MAILEDUT NOTICES. OTHERWISE, THERE IS NOT A LOT TO COMMENT ON. 
          PROPERTY HAS TO MEET ALL TECHNICAL ENGINEERING STORM WATER STANDARDS AND YOU ARE CORRECT THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FLOOD OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES. THEY HAVE TO CONTAIN THEIR OWN 
          WATER. >>  AND DO WE CAN WE FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING THERE YET. 
          WILL THERE BE ANOTHER NOTICE GOING OUT WHEN THEY SAY WHAT IS GOING THERE? 
          >>  THIS IS A REZONING HEARING THEY PROVIDED A PLAN BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO REVEAL WHAT IS GOING IN THERE UPON IT IS CONVENIENCE STORE A SHOE STORE OR WHATEVER. 
          >>  THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>  YOU ARE WELCOME. 
          >>  ANYONE ELSE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT ON ANYTHING. 
          >> OBVIOUSLY, MR. SMITH, SAID WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY WE HAVE TO CONTAIN OUR STORM WATER WE ARE REQUIRED TO AND REQUIRED TO PULL PERMITS AND STATE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AND THE NOT ALLOWED TO DUMP THE STORM WATER. THERE IS BOWL STATE AND LOCAL COUNTY REGULATIONS AND ABIDE BY 
          THOSE. >>  OKAY. WE WILL HAVE MORE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. MR. OLSON. I WAS WAITING TO MAKE A MOTION. 
          MR. MATOVINA, I WAS ALSO AND MR. GREEN WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION. SHOULD WE DRAW STRAWS. 
          MR. GREEN WAS THE FIRST ONE WHO SAID HE WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION. >>  I TURNED MY LIGHT OFF. 
          MR. OLSON WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE. BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION I'M LOOKING TO I CAN'T FIND THE ONE CONDITION. I SEE FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT. 
          CAN SOMEONE LEAD ME TO ONE CONDITION SO WHEN HI REFER TO IT I KNOW THAT -- YES , SIR. 
          THE CONDITION IS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS WAIVED THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP WURNDZ THE LIVE LOCAL 
          ACT. >>  OKAY. >>  THANK YOU. 
          SO, I MOVE TO HAVE THIS BOARD RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF REZONING 2025-16SR207 AND WILDWOOD. BASED ON 4 FINDINGS OF FACT SPECIAL ONE CONDITION PROVIDED 
          BY THE STAFF. >>  DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >>  SECOND. 
          >>  A SECOND FROM MR. MATOVINA. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MR. LABANOWSKI. 
          SORRY. EARLIER. >> NO. 
          SHE RECEIVED NOTICE AND I BELIEVE THAT SHE IS AN ELDERLY WOMAN WHO LIVED THERE. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW OR DOES D NOT HAVE CONTACT WE WILL MEET ALL THE CODES THAT'S ALL I KNOW. 
          >>  GOT NOTICE. >>  I DROVE DOWN THE DRIVEWAY I WANTED TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY FROM THAT VIEW. DROVE DOWN DRIVEWAY I COULD NOT FIND A FRONT DOOR TO THAT HOUSE. 
          IT WAS A CHAIN LINKED FENCE. THEY WERE LOCKED. AFTER TRYING TO AROUSE THE OWNER I DECIDED I MIGHT GET SHOT. YOU KNOW WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TRESPASS. 
          I WAS ON THE PERSON'S PROPERTY TRYING TO SPEAK WITH THEM. THERE WERE TWO CARS NOBODY 
          EMERGED. >>  ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. 
          WE ARE READY TO VOTE. >>  PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. SO NOW WE WILL TAKE A 10 MINUTE 
          [5. MAJMOD 2025-10 WBL End Parcels. Request for a Major Modification to the Pirates Landing Planned Unit Development (Ordinance 1985-11, as amended) to grant a portion of a 1.5 acre parcel to St. Johns County for a proposed public beach access facility, and to allow for two (2) single-family dwellings. Located at 3175 S Ponte Vedra Blvd.]
I THINK WE CAN START THIS ITEM. DON'T WANT IT HOLD YOU UP ANY LONG ARE THAN NECESSARY UPON 
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THIS IS A MAJOR MODIFICATION. MR. WHITEHOUSE IS AGAIN PRESENTING THIS ITEM. 
          MR. LABANOWSKI. I VISITED THE SITE WITH A FLAT TIRE AND NINE E MAILS THAT WERE 
          SENT IT MEAND E MAILS PROVIDED BY STAFF. >>  MR. OLSON. 
          >> A NUMBER OF LETTERS REGARDING THIS. AND ALSO -- I HAD DIRECT PHONE CONVERSATIONS WITH PRESIDENT OF OCEAN VILLAS. SEVERAL DAYS AGO PHONE CONVERSATION I HAD QUESTIONS FOR MR. WHITEHOUSE. AND SPOKE WITH THEM THIS 
          MORNING. >>  SITE VISIT I LIVE SO CLOSE I TEND TO WALK ON BEACH OR DRY BOO 
          I IT ALMOST EVERY DAY. >>  I DID NOT DO SITE VISIT FOR THIS BUT I DRIVEN BY IT AND NOTICED THE PARCELS. DID NOT REALIZE THEY WERE PART OF CERT NADA. 
          JAMES WHITEHOUSE, 104 SEA GROVE MAIN STREET. I'M HERE BEHALF OF THE OWNER OF TWO END PARCELS OF THE PUD WE WILL TALK ABOUT. THE PRIATS LANDING AMENDED MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS SINCE 19IVE REQUEST. WE KNOW LOCATION OF THIS. 
          THE BEACH CLUB A1A IS AND COASTAL HIGHWAY THE ONLY AREA ALONG THIS STRETCH THAT HAS THAT. THIS WAS PASSED BACK IN 1985. AS THE PIRATES LANDING. 
          NAMED ORGANIZATION GRAND. THE BEACH PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. 
          THERE IS IN THE RESIDENTIAL THE RESIDENTIAL D FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. 
          PUD IS LOCATED AS MOSTLY ALMOST ECCLUSE YOU HAVE IN RESIDENCE D. OCCUPIES 70 ACRES OF LAND 2800 LINEAR FEET ON THE OCEAN WATER IS ORGANIZATION AND HAS NUMEROUS OWNERS IN THE PUD. 
          HERE I HAVE IT OUT LINED AS TO THE DIFFERENT PARCEL ASKS OWNERSHIPS. 
          I WILL SHOW YOU WHO OWNS WHAT. YOU HAVE THE OCEAN VILLAS IN THE RED. 
          2 GREEN ARE TWO PIECES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. CLUB THAT IS IN THE MIDDLE. 
          THEN THE OCEAN GRAND ON THE MARSH SIDE JEA PROPERTY. MAJORITY OF THE LAND IS DII HAVEDEDED WITH TWO CORRESPOND O DEVELOPMENTS OCEAN GRAND OUT LINE IN PURPLE. 
          THE WEST SIDE OF COASTAL HIGHWAY AND OCEANAL VILACE OUT LINES IN ORANGE. 
          LOCATED ON THE BEACH FRONT ORANGE OR REDDISH. EAST SIDE OF COASTAL HIGHWAY. 
          OCEAN VILLAS CONDO COMPLEX A TOTAL OF 88 UNITS. THEY RANGE IN SIZE. 
          AND FEATURES GATED ENTRANCE, DOORS AND OCEAN GRAND IS LUXURY CONDO HAS 204 UNITS ASK 
          STRETCHES THE PUD ON THE COASTAL WATERWAY. >> WE HAVE THE PARCEL OUT LINE IN THE YELLOW. PROVIDES UTILITY SERVICES. FINALLY THERE ARE FOUR OTHER PARCELS OWNED BY OWNERS OF FORMER BEACH CLUB THAT IS DISBANDED THE PROPERTIES WERE SPLIT UP TRANSFERRED IT VARIOUS CREDITORS PART OF A BANKRUPTCY. FOUR IN PERCENTAGES AS OUT LINED IN THE DOCUMENTS. I WILL NOT GET INTO THAT. NOW IT IS THE SOUTH OCEAN CLUB. 
          2 PARCELS AT THE NORTH SOUTH END OF THE PUD ON THE BEACH SIDE. THEY ARE TRANSFERRED I HAVE AT 
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COURT JUDGMENTS TO MY CLIENT. ROYAL BUSINESS LENDERS. THEY WERE A LENDER TO THE OWNERSHIP OF PRIOR, THESE TWO WERE THE PIECES THAT CAME AS PART OF THE SETTLEMENT CREDITORS IN ADMIT BANKRUPTCY. THEY ARE IN THE A DEVELOP ARE AM NOT HERE TO GET DEVELOPMENT. 
          THEY WANT TOP JUST SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO AND APPROACHED ME TO DISCUSS THIS IN MY FIRM BECAUSE THESE OTHER TWO PIECES THEY WERE BEGIN. COURTS DON'T LOOK WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ARE OF PROPERTY WHEN THEY ASSIGN PROPERTY IN BANKRUPTCIES. 
          AND SO THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE THIS IS WHY WE HERE AFTER THEY APPROACHED US AND GULFSTREAM DESIGN GROUP TO LOOK AT WHAT USES AND WHAT COULD FIT ON THE PROPERTIES. 
          THIS LENDING ORGANIZATION OBTAINED OWNER SHIP I HAVE AT FORECLOSURE. 
          LANGUAGE HAS BEEN MODIFIED NUMEROUS TIME. RESOLUTION MODIFICATION SINCE 1985 THROUGH COUNTY EVALUATION SEARCH THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS APPEAR THE DEVELOPERS OF ENTIRE PUD THAT IS NOW COMPROMISED -- INVOLVE DIFFERENT PARCELS IN THE SHALL IN APPROVAL THERE WAS CLAUSES THAT TALKED ABOUT PROVIDING PARKING. ON TWO PARCELS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. YOU SEE FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT, IN THE LAST OVER LAST FEW DECADES OF MODIFICATIONS, THAT REQUIREMENT DID IT IS NOT APPEAR TO BE CONTINUED OVER THAT WAS COMPATIBLE HAD THIS WAS INITIALLY CONSIDERED SPECIAL PASSED BY CITY. 
          THE COMMISSION IN 1985 AND AMENDED A NUMBER OF TIMES UP ENEMY THE EARLY 2000'S. 
          THIS IS A REQUEST GO MODIFICATION TO THE PIRATE'S LANDING P UD. 
          PART OF THE PROPOSAL THAT WE CAME UP WITH WE HAVE BEEN WING ON THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF WITH THE STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION AND PART OF THE PROPOSAL WAS TETRY TO MEET THE INTENT OF THAT PUBLIC PARKING AREA AND FACILITIES. AND TO GRANT THAT LAND TO COUNTY THE OBJECTIVIVES OF PLAN WHICH THIS COMMISSION AND OTHERS PREFER TO THIS ONE HAVE STATED YOU KNOW TRYING TO FIND AND PROVIDE AS MUCH PARKING ACCESS THAT ALSO HELPS US WITH OUR TAKE PERMIT FOR DRIVING ON BEACH AND WHAT NOT. AND THEN AS PART OF THIS COMPROMISE TO GRANT PART OF THAT NORTHERN PARCEL THE BIGGER TO ST.JOHN'S FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR 
          THEM IT DEVELOP IT THROUGH THE GRANTS THEY HAVE >> AND THEN MERELY ASKING FOR TW COMPAT OKAY SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS ON EITHER END LINEUP WITH ALL OF THE OTHER TYPE OF SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS ALONG COASTAL HIGHWAY AS YOU ALL KNOW. THAT WAS THE REQUEST. 
          NOSNOW I WILL GO OFF SCRIPT. IT WAS NOT UNTIL THE LAST FEW DAYS LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE E MAILS IS LETTERS WHICH AGAIN. WHEN WE ARE WORKING WITH THE STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION THAT FINDS A WAY TO WORK OUT A COMPROMISE AND BRING TO YOU GUYS FOR PLANNING REVIEW AND COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL OF A MODIFICATION, WE TRY TO FIND THE BEST WAY AS YOU KNOW, TO PROVIDE BOTH A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY AS WELL AS A BENEFIT TO THE OWNERS. THAT'S YU HAD THIS PROPOSAL. 
          IN THE LAST FEW DAY ONLY I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS A YEAR AND A HALF. 
          THE LAST FEW DAYS SHOCKINGLY I COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT THE MAJORITY PEOPLE OPPOSED THE PUBLIC PARKING, WHICH THAT SEEMED TO BE THE THING EVERYBODY WANTED. 
          IT WAS A BIG GIVE BY OWNER. GIVE THAT PIECE TO PROVIDE THAT AND ASK FOR TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS ON THE END. AGAIN. I'M OFF SCRIPT I WILL GO BACK BUT IF THAT IS THE CASE, THIS THIS AGENCY AND THE BOARD DON'T WANT, THIS APPLICANT WOULD BE GRAD TO TAKE THAT OFF. THEY WERE GIVING THAT. FREE AND CLEAR. 
          FEE SIMPLE. THAT LAND. SO THEY WOULD TAKE GRAD TO TAKE THAT BACK AND PUT IN ANOTHER TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS THERE YOU WILL SEE THROUGH MY PRESENTATION THEY ARE COMPATIBLE TO THE STRIP. SO LET'S GO FORWARD. 
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WE WILL CONDITION WITH THE WHAT WE WORKED ON A NEAR AND A HALF. IF THAT IS AN ISSUE AFTER WE HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE WHO SPEAK AND READ THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING MY CLIENT IS AMENABLE TO. 
          IN ANY CASE. AS I TALKED ABOUT THIS IS KNOWN BY MANY NAMES. 
          PIRATES LANDING. OCEAN GRANT. TO TALK ABOUT THIS MODIFICATION KNOWN AS THE BEACH CLUB NEW OWNERS ARE LENDING ORGANIZATION WB L OR WORLD BUSINESS LENDSERS. 
          THE LENDERS WERE ASSIGNED TWO END PARCELS FOR THE FUNDS THAT WILL DO THEM BASED UPON LOANS THEY ARE NOT BEGIN IT SATISFY THAT DEBT BUT PER OF THE COURT'S DIVISION UPON THIS MODIFICATION IS TO REQUEST COMPATIBLE UNIT ON EACH OF THE END PARCELS FULLY COME PATABLE WITH OTHERS ON STRETCH. AS WELL AS TO GIVE ST.JOHN'S THE BEACH AGSESZ FOR PARKING WORKS TO FURTHER THE GOALS OF OUR PLAN. THEY ARE NOT DEVELOPER BUT A LENDING ORGANIZATION WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE SOME LAND TO THE COUNTY TO ALLOW THE COUNTY TO DEVELOP NEEDED BEACH ACCESS IS TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS EACH END. THIS LENDING ORGANIZATION SEEK TO ADD ONE SINGLE FAMILY NORTHEAST SOUTHEAST PARCELS. IT CALLED TO PROVIDE PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS, WHICH WAS FOUR YEAR AGO AND AMENDED MANY TIMES. WILL NOT COME TO FRUITION WITHOUT THIS MODIFICATION. THIS COMPATIBLE MODIFICATION ALLOWS -- THAT TO COME THROUGH FRUITION IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTY DECIDES. THIS IS A DIAGRAM FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT AND PACKET AND THE APPLICATION THIS HEADLINE BE AREA THAT GULFSTREAM DESIGN LOOKED AT IT SEE WHETHER THEY FIT THIS TYPE OF BEACH ACCESS WITH THE SPOTS AND FACILITIES ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY OUT LINED IN GREEN THE PROPERTY THIS APPLICANT IF THIS IS HOW PROPOSAL GOES FORWARD WOULD GRANTS COUNT FREE/KHRER AND THE COUNTY DEVELOP HAD THEY WANTED TO THAT PROPERTY. BEACH ACCESS. 
          BUT WE WILL SEE AND THE NORTHERN PIECE WHERE LISTED LOT ONE THAT WOULD BE THE RESIDENTIAL UNIT YOU WILL SEE WHEN I SHOW YOU THE ARIALS ADJACENT IT ONE TO THE NORTH OF THAT COMPATIBLE. 
          >>  HERE YOU SEE AREA THAT IS DEVELOPABLE. YOU SEE THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL AND THE PARCEL ITSELF. HERE IT IS A HAND DRAWN WHEREBY THAT'S WOULD FIT IN ON THE NORTH SECTION I HEARD A FEW COMMENTS STATING THAT -- A LOT OF PEOPLE SOME BOARD MEMBER DID NOT REALIZE THIS WAS PART OF THE PUD OR BEACH CLUB AREA OR CONDOS. HERE IS A CLOSUP OF THAT. 
          IS THIS IS HOW A -- OVER LAY ON ARIAL WOULD LOOK. IT DOES NOT DIRECTLY LINEUP IT WAS NOT SCALED IS DRAWN BY AN ENGINEER, THAT IS HOW IT WOULD FIT IN ON THE NORTHERN SECTION IF THIS WAS HOW IT WAS DEVELOPED. THE LOTS TO THE NORTH WHERE THEY ASK FOR RESIDENCE IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE 1 TO THE NORTH OF THAT WHICH IS A SINGLE FAMILY U NIT. THIS IS THE SOUTH PARCEL. IT IS A LOT SMALLER. 
          THERE IS NOT BECAUSE OF WHERE THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE IS. 
          AND WHERE THE VEGETATION IS IS DUNES ARE NOT A LOT OF ROOM ON THIS PIECE. 
          THAT SHOWS THE PARCEL ITS ONLY A SMALL PART IS DEVELOP BELIEVE. YOU SEE HERE THAT IS THE PARCEL WITH THE GREEN WHICH IS THE PAD DRAWN BY THE ENGINEERS. REALLY IS ONLY AVAILABLE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY UNIT. YOU CAN'T FIT ANY PARKING IF YOU WANTED TO ON THIS SOUTHERN END ITSELF. YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT IS PIECE ITSELF AND THE LITTLE HAND DRAWN 
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SECTION IN WHITES WHERE THE SINGLE FAMILY UNIT WOULD GO AND AGAIN. 
          GOING OFF SCRIPT A BIT YOU SAW COMMENTS IT WILL BLOCK VIEWS, ET CETERA FROM THE CONDOS ACROSS THE WAY OR THE HOUSES IN NEIGHBORHOOD. AND REALLY IT DOESN'T. 
          I SHOW YOU STREET VIEW IN AWE MINUTE. AS YOU SEE FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT, PLANNING DEPARTMENT, ROUTED THIS TO THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. 
          THERE ARE NO OPEN COMMENTS THEY GO THROUGH REQUEST ITSELF. AND THEY TALK ABOUT IN THEIR PROJECT THEY GO THROUGH PROJECT HISTORY EXTENSIVELY IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. 
          THEY FIND HOW MANY UNITS DEVELOPED. MAKE A PLANNING DEPARTMENT FINDING IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THE TWO PUBLIC BEACH ACCESSES ARE REQUIRED BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS -- THE WAY IT IS DEVELOPED YOU CAN READ THAT YOURSELF. 
          THEY NOTE THAT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN DOES NOT MAKE REFERENCE TO PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS OR PARKING ASK AND THEREFORE THEY FOUND THAT IS NOT 100% REQUIRED BY THIS DEVELOPER. 
          EVEN THOUGH THE DEVELOPER HAS INCLUDED THAT THEY ARE NOT DEVELOPERS THIS APPLICANT AS INCLUDED THAT BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS AN APPROPRIATE WAY TO MEETET SPIRIT INTENT OF THE PUD THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. THAT I FOUND THAT SPOT ON THE NORTHERN END. IF THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS PLANNING AGENCIMENTS OR COMMISSIONMENTS THEY WOULD BE GLAD TO TAKE THAT OUT AND ADD ANOTHER UNIT OR TWO THERE, WHICH MAY BE COMPATIBLE. IN ANY CASE, THERE IS ALSO A MINOR WAIVER ASKED IN PUD'S YOU CAN ASK FOR WAIVERS. THIS IS NOT TO STOP NOT ON -- FOR THEM TO GET OUT OF DOING SOMETHING IT SAYSES THAT WHEN YOU HAVE PUD'S AND YOU CAN GIVE CONCEPT MAPS LIKE WHEN YOU OR COMMISSION APPROVE A RESIDENTIAL PUD, YOU DON'T GET THE PLANS ARE IF EACH LOT. 
          YOU GET IT FOR WHOLE DEVELOP. . WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO LOTS WE ARE NOT ASKING TO BE RELIEVED OF HAVING TO DO ALL REQUIREMENTS THE COUNTY GENTLEMAN IT IS,LLOWS THEM TO PROCEED WITH THE MAPS SHOWING WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND SHOWING WHERE THE FOOTPRINT AREAS FOR THOSE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. HAD THEY COME BACK FOR CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT WIFE RESIDENCE OR COUNTY DOES FOR THEIR PARKING LOT, THEY HAVE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. ALL IT SAYS WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE YOU SPECIFIC ENGINEERED DETAILS OF THE LOTS RIGHT NOW. IT IS A REASONABLE WAIVER I BELIEVE THAT STAFF AGREES IS REASONABLE AND CONCLUSION BASED ON THE REQUESTS, WE BELIEVE IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PLAN AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE PROPERTIES THE GRANTING OF THE LAND TO THE COUNTY MEETS THE SPIRIT INTENT AND ORIGINAL DISCUSSIONS FOR BEACH ACCESS. TWO UNITS ON EACH END SHOW THE REQUEST IS APPROPRIATE. AS I SAID, THE REQUEST GRANT THE LAND IS WHAT THIS PROPOSAL INCLUDES AND THE TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. WE BELIEVE THAT PROPOSAL IS APPROPRIATE ASK REASONABLE UNDER THE TERMS OF THE PUD ANDOIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FOLLOWED THE SPIRIT AND INTENT AND FURTHERS THE POLICIES. YOUR STAFF PROVIDED YOU WITH SIX FINDINGS OF FACT FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION OF THIS MAJOR MODIFICATION. AND I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 
          >>  THANK YOU, MR. WHITEHOUSE. QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? MR. OLSON. 
          >> I HAVE A NUMBER OF THOUGHTS ASK SUGGESTIONS ABOUT A PATH FORWARD FOR THIS BUT I WILL DEFER TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PRIOR TO THAT HAPPENING. I THINK THAT MAY BE A WISE COURSE OF ACTION. WITH THAT SAID WE WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          IS THERE ANYONE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE, COME FORWARD. 
          STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS FOR RCORD AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          >>  GREG, 215 SOUTH OCEAN RESIDENT OCEAN GRANT ACROSS THE STREET IF THE PARCELS. 
          WANTED TO NUMBER ONE WONDERING IF I CAN GET A FULL COPY OF THE PROPOSAL? 
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IS IT AVAILABLE LINE? WHERE CAN PUBLIC FINDS THAT? CAN SOMEBODY HELP. 
          >>  WE GET A PACKET. >>  IF YOU GIVE ME OUR CARD I CAN E MAIL YOU A LINK SO YOU CAN 
          LOOK AT IT. >>  THANK YOU. >>  WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR A BEACH ACCESS FOR OCEAN GRAND RESIDENCE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CONSIDER OTHER ECONOMIC IMPACT OR NOT. WHEN THE BEACH CLUB CLOSED THE VALUE OF OCEAN GRAND CONDO DROPPED 20 MILLION DOLLARS PLUS. OCEAN GRAND CONTRIBUTES NEIGHBORHOODS OFA MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS OF PROPERTY TAXES A YEAR. THERE IS NO BEACH ACCESS WITHOUT A BEACH CLUB. NO GUARANTEE THE BEACH CLUB WILL REMAIN IN BUSINESS. 
          THAT IS THE ONLY BEACH ACCESS OCEAN GRAND RESIDENCE HAVE. SO, I THINK IT IS IN INTEREST OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS TRUE I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT THERE BEING A 200 UNIT REQUIREMENT FOR BEACH ACCESS? THERE ARE 198 UNITS IN OCEAN GRAND. IF THE 200 UNIT REQUIREMENT IS IT SEEMS THE DEVELOPER PULLED A FAST ONE ON THE COUNT LIMITING WITH 198 UNITS NOT ALLOWING BEACH ACCESS THERE IS PROPERTY VALUE AND SAFETY CONCERN. PHOTOCOPY THERE IS NO BEACH ACCESS OR AN ACROSS OVER OR THERE IS NOT PARKING AND NOT FOR NECESSARILY OFF THE GENERAL PUBLIC BUT OCEAN GRAND RESIDENCE AND PRESIDENT BEACH CLUB CLOSES AGAIN PEOPLE WILL WALK DOWN THE ROAD AND ACROSSING THRIVE PRIVATE PROPERTIES FOR BEACH ACCESS. COUNTY DOES NOT NEED TO HAVE SENIORS FROM OCEAN GRAND ROAD KILL ON A1 A. NOT THE BEST PLAN TO LEAVE THEM WITHOUT BEACH ACCESS. THERE IS A SAFETY ISSUE. A DEPENDANCEY ON THE BEACH CLUB IT IS UNREASONABLE FOR 400 PLUS INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE IN 200 UNITS AND URGE YOU TO CONSIDER 
          THE FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE COUNTY. >>  THANK YOU. 
          >>  ANYONE ELSE. COME FORWARD. YOU CAN LINEUP. 
          AT THE MICROPHONES IF YOU WISH. TO SAVE TIME. IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK LINEUP. 
          AND -- COME TELL US WHAT WANT TOP SAY. FINE. 
          THEY ALL WORK. >>  THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M HAL LUIS. 
          AND I SPEAK AS A RESIDENT OF THE OCEAN GRAND COMMUNITY. BEHALF OF MYSELF AND MY WIFE ALTHOUGH, SHE MAY BACK OFF WHAT WHEN SHE HEARS WHAT I HAVE TO SAY HERE. 
          I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION INCLUDING THE PARKING LAND DONATION PROPOSED BY HIS CLIENT WB L AND THE PARKING LOTS THAT I UNDERSTAND ARE PART OF MODIFICATION. FOR REASON GIVEN BY MY FELLOW RESIDENT. 
          THAT THE IDEA OF OCEAN GRAND RESIDENTS WALKING ALMOST QUARTER MILE TO THE EITHER ONE OF THE END UNITS ACROSS A1A, ATTACHED TO THE OCEAN VILLAS, IS A SAFETY ISSUE. 
          BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY IS A SIGNIFICANT ELDERLY AND -- ALSO DISABLED. 
          THEREFORE BEING ABLE TO FOR SOME OF PEOPLE SEEKING BEACH ACCESS, WOULD BE IMPORTANT HAD THEY BE ABLE TO DRIVE THAT -- SMALL DISTANCE QUARTER MILE TO THE END UNIT PARKING LOTS THAT ARE PROPOSED. BY WB L. THE ONLY CLARIFICATION I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER ON MR. WHITEHOUSE PRESENTATION IS THAT HE MENTIONED HEARING IN THE LAST TWO DAYS, OPPOSITION TO THE MODIFICATION IN AND CLARIFICATION IS THAT THIS COME 
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UNDERABLELY FROM NOT FROM OCEAN GRAND PEOPLE WHO NOW HAVE NO BEACH ACCESS UNLESS IT IS THROUGH CLUB MEMBERSHIP. THE OPPOSITION COMES FROM PEOPLE WHO HEAR ACTUALLY ALREADY ON THE BEACH AT OCEAN VILLAS. THEY HAVE OVER THE YEARS OPPOSED EVERY PROPOSAL FOR BEACH ACCESS FOR OCEAN GRANT PEOPLE. AND IT IS UNDERSTANDABLE PREDICTABLE THAT THEY WOULD BE OPPOSING THROUGH THEIR BOARD. ANY SORT OF BEACH ACCESS. BY ROSE DENTSES OF OCEAN GRANT. 
          OCEAN GRAND BOARD HAS NOT TAKEN A POSITION ON THIS. BUT I THINK MY FELLOW RESIDENT IS CORRECT. IN STATING -- THE OVERWHELM MAJORITY OF OCEAN GRAND RESIDENTS WOULD APPROVE THIS PROPOSAL BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME IN -- 25 YEAR HISTORY. 
          >>  THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>  THANK YOU. >>  APPRECIATE IT. 
          >>  HELLO I'M MARTE GRZIA GULF CIRCLE. LIVE IN TIDE'S EDGE. 
          WHICH IS PROBABLY 50 WITH REGARDS FROM THE PROPOSED PUBLIC PARKING. 
          MY RESIDENTS HAS BEEN THERE 25 YEARS. WE SEEN A LOT THAT HAS GONE ON THROUGHOUT ALL THE YEARS. WESHGS SPECIALLY AT THEM CURVE. I DON'T HAVE PREPARATION. 
          I DID NOT THIS CAME UP LAST MINUTE FOR US. I FEEL FOR EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PRESIDENT NEW OWNERSHIP OF CLUB NOT BEING IN BUSINESS. IT IT IS IN BUSINESS. IT IS ALL DEVELOPING. 
          BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS SEEING ESPECIALLY SINCE THE PANDEMIC THE TRAFFIC. 
          THIS CURVE I BACK UP TO IT. I SEE IT EVERY DAY FROM MY HOME OFFICE. 
          I SEE ENGINE NINE UP DOWN EVERY DAY. HORNS BLOWING. 
          BEFORE THIS CURVE. MY CONCERN IS THE SAFETY. PERIOD. 
          20 CARS IS NOT ENOUGH FOR THE ACCESS PERSONALLY. ALL THE OTHER ACCESSES ARE UP DOWN A1A COMPLETELY OVER LOADED. PARKING ON THE STREET. WEEP CAN'T SEE IDENTITY OF TIDE'S EDGE TO MAKE A LEFT TURN. WE HAD PARKING SIGNS PUT UP. THEY HAVE BEEN RUN OVER. 
          SO IF YOU VISITED THE SITE, GRANTED IT IS NOT BAD. BUT VISIT IT FOR OVER AN HOUR DURING THE DAY AND SEE WHAT TRAFFIC PATTERN IS LIKE. UNFORTUNATELY I THINK IT IT IS A BAD LOCATION. AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE THERE LONG ENOUGH IT KNOW. 
          SO -- IF THERE A WAY THEY CAN GET ACCESS FOR OCEAN GRANDE. I DON'T KNOW. 
          WHO PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY THAT IS THEIR BUSINESS. IT IS GREAT THEY ARE OFFERING IT BUT THE WORSE LOCATION FOR SAFETY. THANK YOU. 
          >>  THANK YOU. >>  I'M MORRIS MAPLE 2115 SOUTH OCEAN GRAND DRIVE. 
          RESIDENT OCEAN GRAND COMMUNITY. I REPRESENT A LARGE SEGMENT OF OUR POPULATION HERE WITHIN OCEAN GRAND. AND WHETHER THEY ARE MEMBERS OF THE BOARDER MEMBERS OF CLUB OR MEMBERS NOT MEMBERS TOTAL SUPPORT FOR ADDING OCEAN ACCESS. IF YOU LOOK AT FROM THE SOUTH FIRE STATION, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO [INAUDIBLE] EVERY COMMUNITY HAS A PUBLIC ACCESS PORTAL. 
          WE ARE ONLY LARGE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE CAN'T ACCESS THE BEACH. AND I THINK YOU KNOW WHEN -- WHEN FLETCHER DEVELOPED THE 85 GET THIS ROAD STRAIGHTENED AND THE PARKING PERMITS SET UP FOR THE COUNTY, 20 ON EACH END. THAT IS REASONABLE. EACH ACCESS WILL BE SOMETHING WE DEAL WITH FOREVER EVEN 20 MORE SPOTS WILL HELP AND HAVING A PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS WILL HELP 
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OCEAN GRAND THE RESIDENT. OUR PROPERTY VALUES DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY. 
          WE HAVE THROWN OUT THE MAY BE BUYING INSURANCE POLICIES TO ALLOW US TO USE THEIR PROPERTY THAT HIS DENIED BECAUSE OF LIABILITY. THE NEW OCEAN CLUB DOES NOT WANT A SPECIAL MEMBERSHIP FOR BEACH ACCESS FOR OCEAN GRAND WE ARE STUCK IN A CATCH 22. 
          WHERE DO WE GO? THEREUPON IS NO PLACE UNLESS YOU GO UP OR DOWN A1 A. 
          WE ARE PROPOSING TO RECOMMEND FOR YOU TO APPROVE THE ADDITION OF THIS. 
          I THINK IT IS A REASONABLE THING FOR THE DEVELOP WEIRS IT GIVE PARKING PROPERTY FOR US. 
          FOR YOU. AND YOU GET ADVANTAGE OF HAVING ADDITIONAL REAL ESTATE TAXES BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE TWO NEW HOMES BUILT THE LOTS. LET'S HOPE YOU WILL VOTE TO 
          APPROVE THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> I'M FRED AND I'M AN EARLY PURCHASER OF OCEAN GRAND CONDOS. I HAVE BEEN THERE OVER 22 YEARS. 
          13 YEAR O THE BOARD. I SHOULD NOTE THAT WHEN WE BOUGHT ORIGINALLY, EVERYBODY THAT BOUGHT AUTOMATICALLY BECAME A MEMBER OF THE CLUB SO THERE WAS NO ISSUE ABOUT ACCESS BECAUSE ALL OF THE ADVERTISEMENTS, ALL OF THE SALES PITCH WAS LOOK, YOU GOT A TUNNEL THAT YOU OWN BUT GIVES YOU ACCESS TO THE CLUB AND TO BEACH. IT WAS ONLY AFTER EVERYBODY HAD BOUGHT IN AND SECOND WAVE OF PEOPLE BUY CAME IN THEY CHANGED THAT TO ADDING COSTS HAY PUT A GATE UP TO THE CLUB AND SO THEY ADD COSTS. SO IT ENDED UP THAT PEOPLE THAT COULD NOT AFFORD THEN TO JOIN THE CLUB, WERE PAYING FOR A TUNNEL THAT THEY COULD NOT THEY COULD NOT USE BECAUSE IT DID NOT GO ANYWHERE IS THEY HAD NO BEACH ACCESS AND AS THEY SAID BEFORE. 
          ABOUT IT IS THE ONLY MAJOR GROUP WE HAVE 198 UNITS. THAT DON'T HAVE BEACH ACCESS. 
          IT BECAME MOST APPARENT WHEN THE ORIGINAL CLUB OPERATION WENT BELLY UP. 
          NEW PERSON CAME IN. SO -- I TALKEDED SEVEN OR EIGHT PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE THAT ARE OLDER NOW. THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GO SWIMMING. 
          WE DO WANT TOP HAVE BEACH ACCESS. WE HAVE TOP PAY 17,000 TO JOIN CLUB AND I THINK IT IS ANOTHER SICK,000 ANNUALLY IN ORDER FOR THEM TO CHANGE THAT GATE AND PUT IT ON THE POOL RATHER THE CLUB ACCESS. EITHER THE CLUB SHOULD LOOK AT THAT, OUR BOARD DID NOT WANT TO MAKE A JUDICIARY ISSUE WE HAVE TAKEN THEM TO COURT OVER THAT. 
          AN ALTERNATIVE IF YOU LOOK AT SOUTH END AND THE SOUTH END OF THAT END IT ALINES WITH THE SOUTH END FENCE OF OCEAN GRAND. WHICH WOULD PERMIT US IT HAVE A CROSSING FROM YOU OCEAN GRAND TO BEACH. IF THEY WOULD PROVIDE A QUARTER BEACH ACCESS QUARTER AS PART OF OF THIS PROPOSAL. SO I THINK THAT IS AN ALTERNATIVE THAT WOULD SEEM TO 
          WORK FOR BOTH >> AND I'M AN OLD TRAFFIC ENGINEER, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT -- WHATEVER IS DONE IT SHOULD BE DONE LOOKING AT ACCESS TO THE PARKING. 
          TO CROSSING TO THE CLUB. THANK YOU. >>  I'M JENNIFER REYES 108 KINGSTON DRIVE. WITH MY HUSBAND. AND HIGH LEVEL OUR CONCERN IS THAT THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT DEPARTURE FROM THE ORIGINAL P UD DID NOT ALLOW RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION ON THE PARCELS. AND THE PROPOSE THE MODIFICATION CHANGE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. 
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THAT MATTERS PREDICTANT AND LAND PLANNING IS IMPORTANT FOR COUNT AND HE RESIDENT WHO IS MAKE LONG-TERM DECISIONS BASED ON THE RESTRICTIONS. REPORT INDICATES PUBLIC ACCESS BUILT AT COUNT REQUEST. NEITHER APPLIES HERE. ORIGINAL THE DEVELOPER TO PAY FOR PUBLIC ACCESS PARKING AND UNDER THIS PROPOSAL THE COSTS WOULD WHICH I WAS TO THE COUNTY. 
          SECOND I LIKE TO EXPLAIN THIS IS IMPACTFUL TO HOMEOWNER. WE PURCHAD IN TWO AND WAS ADVERTISED HAVING OCEAN VIEWS THE UNDERSTANDING THE SOUTH THAT WAS A MATERIAL FACTOR IN OUR STATION ALLOWING A HOME ON THE SOUTH WOULD OBSTRUCT VIEWS AND REDUCE THE VALUE OF OUR PROPERTY AND OTHERS. WE UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT ACQUIRED THE PARCELS FOLLOWING BEACH CLUB BANKRUPTCY. APPROVINGING MOIFKDZ WOULD SHIFT THE CONSEQUENCES OF LENDER SITUATION ON SURROUNDING HOMEOWNERS HAD WOULD NOT HAVE THE SAME MEANS OF RECOVERY FOR THEIR LOST PROPERTY VALUES THIRD, THERE ARE COASTAL ENVIRONMENTAL OCCURRENCE THE PARCELS PART OF AN ACTIVE DUB SYSTEM SUPPORTS COASTAL HABITAT. A STRETCH THAT IS REQUIRED DUB REPLENISH AM WORK WE SAW IT DURING EON WHERE ORGANIZATION OFFER TOPS A1A DISRUPTED TRAVEL 
          ON THE ROAD. >>  SUPPORTING NEW TRUSHTHS PUBLIC ACSYSTEM WOULD WEAK EN THAT INFORM DEFENSE IT IS A KNOWN SEA TURTLE NESTING AREA. WEAVE COUNTED 30 NESTS BETWEEN THE TWO PARCELS MANY HAVE MENTIONED THE TRACK AND SAFETY CONCERNS. 
          MOST SIGNIFICANT CURVE AND HAS A LONG HISTORY INCIDENTS WITH VEHICLING AND PEDESTRIANS AND ADDING HOMES AND PUBLIC PARK WOULD FURTHER THE ISSUES. PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OUR PRIOR HOME BEACH ACCESS WAS BUILT AND FRONTS OF IT. AND IT DOES CAUSE ISSUES ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK WE WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH ACCESS TO OCEAN GRAND. 
          WEIGHING THIS WE DON'T THINK THE BENEFIT TO THE PUBLIC IS P PROPORTIONATE TO THE RISKINGS OF 
          THE NEAR BY PROPERTY OWNERS. >>  THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION OF LISTENING TO OUR REQUESTS. 
          MY WIFE AND PIJUST PURCHASED A CONDO FIVE YEAR AGO. >>  NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          >>  MY WIFE AND I PURCHASED A CONDO SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE UNIT 105. 
          A WEEK AGO I SENT AN E MAIL TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR ATTENTION FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE PROVIDING THE ACCESS TO THE BEACH TO OCEAN GRAND. ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS PROPOSEDED WITH THIS PROJECT. THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS THAT CONCERN ME. 
          IS THAT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION THERE WAS A CORRIDOR SOCIETY UP ALONG SIDE THE PROPERTY OVER IT IS NEW CLUB OWNER DEDICATE AID PASS ANNUAL FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE BEACH. 
          IT IS ISOLATED FROM THE AREA THAT THE AREA OF THE BEACH THE CLUB THE POOL AND ALL. 
          SO SINCE THEY TOOK OVER WE LOST THE ACCESS. WE HAD A GRANDFATHERED ACCESS TO BEACH VIA MEMBERSHIP OF CLUB. BECAUSE BENEFIT BANKRUPTCY IT IS IN THE HONORED. 
          I LOOK AT THE KRRGDZ FOR ACCESS TO THE BEACH PROPOSED. THERE WAS NO MENTION IN THE DOCUMENTS HOW IT WOULD APPROACH AFFECT US. BY THIS, I SAID, THERE ARE A COUPLE DIFFERENT VERSIONS. OPTIONS THAT WE CAN DO IF THE CORRIDOR TO THE BEACH CANNOT BE NEGOTIATED WITH THE PRESENT OWNER. VIA SOME FINANCIAL. 
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THEN YOU KNOW THEREUPON IS AN ACCESS OF TUNNEL WE HAVE NOW BUILT SINCE THE STARTED -- ACROSSES A1 AIS ENDS THE PARKING LOT OWNED BY CLUB AND USED TO JOINTLY WITH THE VILLAS SOUTH. 
          NOW, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO JUST MAKE A REACH THE EAST SOUTH DAKOTA 'VE I ASK THE COUNTY TO MAKE A CONNECTION THROUGH A SIDEWALK RIGHT WHERE THE GRADE PERMITS OUT GRAND EXIT AND BRING IT AROUND MAKE A CONNECTION WITH THE SOUTH END. PROPERTY. 
          CONSIDERED NOW. THAT WOULD BRING US DIRECTLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE BEACH. 
          I WOULD ALSO ASK FOR YOU FOLKS TO CONSIDER 20 CAR PARKING LOT THAT GIVES YOU 40 PEOPLE PLUS ARE MINUS HAVE ACCESS AT THIS TIME BEACH. WE HAVE 400. 
          200 UNITS. TWO PEOPLE A UNIT. 400 PEOPLE WOULD HAVE THE DIRECT 
          ACCESS TO THE BEACH BY A SIMPLE CONSIDERATION. >>  THANK YOU. 
          >>  LOOK AT IT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. >>  THANK YOU. 
          >>  HI I'M BILL WHIRLY AN OWNER AT OCEAN VILLAS 240 NORTH SARNADA AND PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD. BEFORE WE GO FURTHER I WANT IT CORRECT THE RECORD WHAT GENTLEMEN SAID EARLIER ABOUT US OPPOSED BEACH ACCESS. YOU GOT OUR DOCUMENT WHAT OUR CONCERNS WHERE THIS WAS NO MENTION OF BEACH ACCESS EMPLOYMENTING TO DENY TO OCEAN GRAND UPON I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM OUR BOARD HAS NOT OPPOSED THAT. 
          WE CHOSE TO BRING A NUMBER OF SAFETY IS SECURITY CONCERNS BEFORE THE AGENCY. 
          THAT WE LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT. FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE HAVE A SWIMMING POOL NEAR PROPERTY LINE WHERE TWO LOTS. WE FEEL THAT IS A HAZZARD WITH A PARKING LET NEXT TO IT SOMEBODY COMING OFF THE BEACH A TEEN OR MAY BE SOMEONE THAT HAD ALCOHOL ON THE BEACH SAYS THERE IS A SWIMMING POOL. LET'S TAKE A DIP THAT IS A CONCERN WE HAD TRESPASS ARES TAKE A DIP IN OUR POOL AND HAD TO CLIMB OVER OUR FENCE TO GET IN THIS IS A HAZZARD. 
          SOMEONE COULD END UP WITH A HEAD INJURY OR DROWN. WE LIKE TO SEE A FENCER WALL INCLUDED IN PROJECT. NOT ONLY FOR A BARRIER BUT A VISUAL BEAR YEESH MACHINE IT IS NOT SAY WELL IS A POOL THERE. SCONDLY, A LOT MENTIONED ALREADY ISSUE OF TRAFFIC A1 A. 
          IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT AREA GOING THROUGH THERE WHEN THERE ARE CARS COMING THROUGH AT 50-60 MILES PER HOUR. A LOOK TO THE LEFT RIGHT. MAKE A RUN AND YOU LOOK IN YOUR REAR VIEW MIRROR AND THERE IS A CAR ABOUT TO RUN YOU OVER. IT HAPPENS ROUTINELY UPON THERE ARE NEAR MISS ALMOST EVERY DAY. AND ADDING THREE EXIT ANDENT REPOINTS WITH TWO HOMES AND A 20 CAR PARKING LOT WILL MAKE IT WORSE. AND SOMEBODY MENTIONED THE ISSUE OF CROSSES IT IS STREET WITH OCEAN GRAND FOLKS OR OTHER TRYING TO COME OVER IT IS A HAZZARD. IT BRINGS UP THIRD CONCERN, OVER FLOW PARKING. 
          IF I LIVED IN OCEAN GRAND I WOULD DRAF TO THE PARKING LOT THAT'S HOW I WILL GET TO THE BENEFIT. THAT WILL FILL UP QUICKLY. 20 SPACES WILL FILL UP QUICKLY. 
          WE WILL HAVE OVER FLOW ISSUES ON A1 ALIKE PEEK HOLIDAY AND SUMMER WEEKEND TYPES. 
          DIFFERENCE BEING HAD IS A CURVED AREA. AND LAST THING YOU NEED IS OVER FLOW CARS ON THAT EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD CREATING A LARGE ARE HAZZARD FOR PEDESTRIANS WE URGE YOU CONSIDER INSTALLING TOW AWAY SIGNS IF IT MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. 
          WHY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>  GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M MARIO THE CLUB HOUSE MANAGER 
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OF COUNTRY CLUB OCEAN CLUB. JUST I'M HERE TO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND MY CONCERN IS ABOUT SAFETY PUBLIC SAFETY WHEN YOU HAVE THE MORE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          WE SAID THAT PEOPLE THEY COME TO THE CLUB HOUSE OR USE THE THIS IS LIABILITY. 
          I'M JUST I WANT TO BE BRIEF. WE ARE OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS. I WILL TALK TO TO OUR OWNER. 
          TO THIS AMAZING COUNTRY CLUB. AND OUR NEIGHBORS AND COMMUNITY THAT ARE I CAN HAVE THIS OPEN CONVERSATION LIKE I CAN DO LIKE A CITY HALL IN OUR COUNT RECLUB. AGAIN. 
          I MY CONCERN IS THE SAFETY, PUBLIC SAFETY TO MEMBERS COMING AND GOING OUT FROM OUR COUNTRY CLUB. THAT'S THE MAIN ISSUE. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE. ITCH HOPE TO SEE YOU ONE DAY THERE. 
          PLEASURE AND HONOR. THANK YOU. >>  THANK YOU. 
          >>  GOOD AFTERNOON I'M LETSLY LUIS I LIVE AT 415 NORTH OCEAN GRAND. 
          IN OCEAN GRAND. AND I WOULD LIKE TO THROW OUT ANOTHER IDEA AND BAIL OUT ON THE PARKING PART. BECAUSE INVITE YOU LOVELY COMMISSIONERS TO TAKE A DRIVE UP A1A ASK LOOK TO THE RIGHT ON THE BEACH SIDE ABOVE LAST BRIDGE, WHICH IS VILLAGES ALL WAY TO -- THE REEF THERE ARE 10 BEACH WALK ACROSS PROSECUTULE THE ROADS IN NORTH BEACH. 
          THEY ARE 600 HOMES IN NORTH BEACH. AND EVERY ROAD THAT COME OUT TO A1A ACROSS THE STREET NO PARKING REQUIRED THEY ACROSS CROSS GO TO THE BYPASS. 
          OF THIS IS A SAND ED THING THE PALMETTOS ARE CUT. I WOULD LIKE ARE IF YOU TO HAVE A LOOK AT THAT AGAIN. IT DOES NOT REQUIRE PARKING. MAY BE OUR CURVE WE CAN USE RUMBLE STRIPS? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ACCIDENTS HAVE HAPPENED THERE. 
          A CAR RUNNING OFF ROAD NOT A PEDESTRIAN RELATED EVENT. SO. 
          WE HAVE A PLACE OUR SOUTH END WHERE WE COULD MAKE A WALK THROUGH AND GO ON THE SLIVER OF THAT SOUTH PARCEL. THAT WOULD ALLOW THE DEVELOPERS TO BUILD THREE HOUSES IF THEY WANTED TO. A WIN FOR THEM AS WELL. I THINK THEIR OFFER TOP GIVE PARKING IS GREAT BUT NOT SURE IT IS REQUIRED IN THE TRADITION OF ST.JOHN'S THEY HAVE DONE IT DIFFERENTLY IN NORTH BEACH. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER OFFERING THAT TO US AT OCEAN GRAND FORKER ACCESS WE ARE THE ONLY COMMUNITY THAN IS NOT HAVE BEACH ACCESS. 
          APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          >>  THANK YOU. DAN. I'M A RESIDENTS TELEVISION OCEAN GRAND, 215 SOUTH OCEAN GRAND. A COUPLE POINTS THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP. 
          I ENJOY OCEAN GRAND AND ENJOY THE BEACH AND EVERYTHING. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE ACCESS TO IT IF I WAS NOT THE MEMBER OF THE CLUB. REALTORS THE FIRST QUESTIONS NEW FUTURE RESIDENTS HAVE WHEN THAT I COME TO LOOK AT HOUSES IN OCEAN GRAND. 
          IS THERE BEACH ACCESS. FOR 198 RÉSUMÉ SLOW DOWN PURCHASE AND DROP PRICE. 
          THANK YOU. >>  THANK YOU. >>  I'M GAIL, 130 SOUTH SARNAD O DRIVE. I ASK YOU HAVE A PENULTIMATE CONSIDERATION. 
          SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS AND PRESIDENT LIABILITY OF THE COUNTY. 
          BECAUSE BUILDING THE ACCESS PARKING ACCESS IS GOING TO DOWN THAT AREA AND PEOPLE LL UP- 
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RUNNING ACROSS AT A POINT THERE IS A HAZARDOUS CURVE. I ASK YOU GIVE THAT CONSIDERATION HOW WE PROTECT THE RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. 
            ASSOCIATION. I SAT BACK HER LISTEN TO ALL OF THE COMMENTS. 
          OUR ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 2006. WORKED WITH OUR FEDERAL, STATE S ASK COUNTY PARTNERS ENSURING WE PROTECT OUR BEACHES. 
          CHAMPION BEACH RENOURISHMENT EFFORTS AFTER STORMS AND WE HAVE ACHIEVED FEDERAL BEACH STATUS FOR 3.1 MILES. AND WE HAVE APPROVED 5.1 MILES OF SOUTH BEACH UNDER THE ARMY COASTAL RISK MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. A 50 YEAR PROGRAM THEY WILL RENOURISH OUR BEACH ON SCHEDULED INTERVALS AND ALSO IF A HURRICANE COME IN WIPES THE BEACH OUT THEY WILL RESTORE IT NOT COST TO THE COUNTY OR OWNERS. UNDER THE ORIGINAL PUD APPROVED BY THE COUNTY VARIANCE ALLOWED TO MOVE COUNTY PLATTED PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENTS FROM ORIGINAL PROPERTY BOUNDARY TO THE OUT ARE NORRING AND SOUTH PROPERTY BROWNARIES. 
          THE OWNERS OF OF THE PROPERTY DID NOT DESIRE TO HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS. 
          THE CONDO IS BEACH PROPERTY HAS 2800 BEACH FRONTAGE CAN WOULD HAVE BEEN 3 BISECTING PUBLIC ACCESSES THROUGH PROPERTY. COUNTIES INTENT TO PROVIDE ACCESS EVERY 750 PEAT PLATTED ALONG A1 ATHE LACK OF IT CAUSES 2-1/2 MILE STRETCH OF BEACH TO BE VOID OF ACCESS. 
          THE 2 PARCELS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED DEDICATED PUBLIC ACCESS IN THE ORIGINAL AND MODIFICATIONS HAVE NEVER REMOVED THAT DEDICATION. BECAUSE A DOEDIZATIONTHCASION IS NOT REMOVED IN EVERY PRIOR MODIFICATION DOES NOT MAKE THE REQUIREMENT NULL VOID. 
          ABOUT THIS PARSE PELS CAN AND SHOULD PROVIDE PARKING AND PUBLIC ACCESS. 
          FOR THE TWO, 50 YEAR PROJECTS. THE DEVELOPMENT OR PUBLIC ACCESS IS WORTH 17 MILLION DOLLARS IN COST SHARE FOR THE FEDERAL PROJECTS. COST SHARE IS BASED ON PUBLIC ACSOESZ EVERY HALF A MILE. CLOSEST IS OVER 1 MILE TO THE SOUTH AT THIRD AND OFFER A MILE TO THE NORTH AT SOUTH PARK. I SEE CAR CONSIST PARKED ALONG THE SIDE OF THE ROAD EVERY DAY. 
          NONREQUESTED OF PROJECT COME PLEA IN THE APRIL 20 BETWEEN WAS 12.1 MILLION THEM IS DEFLATED THERE HEAR GRANTS FROM MATTHEW AND EON. ST.JOHN'S PAY 95% OF THE COST FOR THE PROJECT. BECAUSE IT IS CONSIDERED A PUBLIC BEACH WITH PUBLIC ACCESS. 
          >> YOU EXCEEDED TIME. GIVEN GREAT INFORMATION. >>  WELL. 
          >>  30 SECONDS. >>  SO, IF YOU APPROVE THE CLEAR TAKING OF THE DEDICATED PUBLIC ACCESS WE WOULD BE PLACING FUTURE TAX BURDEN ST.JOHN'S TAXPAYERS. 
          LASTLY, THE APPROVAL OF THE MODIFICATION I BELIEVE WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF OF THE SURF RIDER'S AGREEMENT WITH ST.JOHN'S COUNTY THAT TOOK PLACE IN 2005 REQUIRE THE COUNTY TO NOT GIVE AWAY, SELL OR CLOSE ANY PUBLIC ACCESS. AND THAT I HAVE FOLLOWEDD THAT 
          AS POLICY. >>  APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH 
          >> MA'AM. >>  JANE SUTTON? >>  YES 
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          >> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 3.MILES IN AND 5.1. >>  SO THE NORTHERN PARCEL IS PART OF THE SOUTH PONTA VED RASCRM. SOUTHERN PARCEL IS PART OF OF 
          THE VALLANO. >>  I NEEDED TO KNOW HOW MANY MILES. 
          THANK YOU. >>  VERY GOOD. >>  GOOD AFTERNOON I'M RONALD 
          HASTINGS 3140 SOUTH PONT VED RADRIVE >> WE LIVED THERE FOR 25 YERS. 
          MY DRIVEWAY IS 50 FEET FROM THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL LOT. AND APPROXIMATELY 125 FEET FROM THE PUBLIC ACCESS PROPOSED. I'LL HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF PROPOSAL. 
          PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE BEACH AS WELL AS PARKING HAS BEEN AN ISSUE WITH ALL RESIDENTS IN THE AREA. THE TWO LOT LADIES PUBLIC PARKING SPOTS THAT THE COUNTY DEVELOPED, HAD BEEN A HELP BUT IT IS ACTUALLY THE LATEST AT NORTH BEACH DECREASED THE PARKING SPOTS FOR BECAUSE OF THE ADDED STRUCTURES IN THE AREA. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO TELL THE COMMISSION THAT THERE WERE THERE IS PRESENT LY A PARKING SPOT PAVED AT NORTHERN BEACH END IT WAS CLOSED FIVE YEARS AGO BY A CHAIN LINKED FENCE. DURING THE TIME WE LIVED PONT VED RABOULEVARD, I SEEN AS MANY AS EIGHT OR TEN VEHICLE PARKED ACROSS FROM OUR HOUSE. 
          FOR PEOPLE AND GOING TO THE BEACH OR FISHING. TRAFFIC IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE. 
          ON A1 A. THE MAJORITY OF THE CARS THAT YOU SEE IN THE PARKING AREA ARE FAMILIES WITH KIDS. THEY ARE IN THE NORMAL PEOPLE WHEN SPEED THAT ARE LEAVING AND COMING TO SAINT AUGUSTINE. WOO WE ARE AWARE OF TRAFFIC. OUR DAUGHTER WAS KILLED. 
          IN 2006 BY A DRUNK DRIVER. NOT COMING TO THE BEACH. HE WAS TRYING TO GET TO HIS HOME IN JACKSONVILLE. EVEN THOUGH THERE IS OVER FLOW PARKING I DON'T THINK IT IS THE ISSUE ONLY THAT WE HEARD HERE TODAY AS FAR AS BECAUSE WE ARE PUBLIC ACCESS THROUGHOUT PARKING AREA SORRY LOCATED WILL NOT BE LIKE THE GATE STORE OR THE NEW NORTH FACE BEACH AREA OVER FLOW PARKING MROES TO THE BEACH TO THE ROADWAY. THANK YOU. 
          MY TIME IS UP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>  THANK YOU. 
          I'M DAVE TILDE I LIVE NOVEMBER BEACH WALK. 292 BRIGHTON COURT WE HAVE TODAY OCEAN VIEW FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE SEVERAL HOUSES THAT IF YOU BUILD A HOUSE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SARNADA WILL LOSE THAT VIEW. 
          YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT SECURITY AND AIM OF TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE CAUSED BY PRESIDENT THE PARKING AREA. TELL BE AT THE TOP OR NORTH OF SARNADA. IT BRINGS A NEW DIFFERENT ATMOSPHERE TO THE COMMUNITY. WE LIVE ACROSS WE HAVE THE CABANA. WE ARE BEACH WALK BEHIND IT. KINGSTON DUNES IS OUR NAME IN THE SUMMER THEY USE OUR ENTRANCE TO GO YOU WILL SEE MANY CARS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WE KNOW THEY DON'T LIVE THERE. THEY COME. HAD HAD YOU OPEN UP BIG PARKING 
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LOT. UNDERSTAND THAT OCEAN GRAND HAS GOT ISSUES YOU KNOWLEDGE THEY WOULD GET TOGETHER CAN TALK TO THE PEOPLE OWN THE LOTS ASK SELL 30 FEET. 
          AND THEY CAN PUT THEIR OWN THING THERE WITHOUT A PARKING LOT. WE FOUND PEOPLE. 
          WE HAVE THE CABAN AN THERE BE PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THE BENCHES DRUNK FROM THE NIGHT BEFORE TELL BRING A DIFFERENT CLIENTELE WE ARE SPOILED WITH THE PRIVATE BEACH AREA. 
          I OPPOSE TO ALL OF IT. 99% OF OUR RESIDENTS OPPOSE IT. AND JUST NEEDED TO TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU DO THIS. IT IS JUST A SHAME THEY GOT THE PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT THEY HAVE SHOULD DONE THEIR HOME WORK. AND REALIZE WE CAN'T DO NOTHING WITH THESE. THEY ARE PRETTY THEY CAN GO THE TO THE BEACH. 
          BUT WE SHOULD NOT PAY AS RESIDENTS. THIS LADY SHE BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT THE COST OF ALL THIS. SOMETIMES LOOK AT THIS DOWNLINE 
          THANK YOU. >>  THANK YOU. ONE MORE 
          >> >>  I'M PAT LEE ROADWAY A REALTOR. 
          THE HOUSE THAT THEREIN 41, NORTHERN PROPERTY SOLD IT TO A BUYER WHICH IS YOU IN A1 AHOLDINGS, SCOTT LANCE I SOLD IT IT HIM IN AUGUST OF 2018. AND WHEN WE WENT TO THE CLOSING NOT PART OF THE CLOSING, THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT WRITTEN UP TO THE WITH THE PREVIOUS OWNERS THE RONS EARLY AMY RON. AND THE AGREEMENT STATED AS OF NOVEMBER 6 OF 2015 WHEN THE RON'S OWNED THE PROPERTY THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN EARLY CAN AM O AND MARIPOSA LAND LLC MAYOR POSA IS OWNER AND DEVELOPER OF THE LAND PARCELS. THAT IS LOCATED WITH OCEAN GRAND UNDER ST.JOHN'S RESOLUTION 98.PIE THE PUD. THEY AGREED AND SIGNED BY MR. PRESIDENT PAUL FLECH ARE REPRESENTED MAYOR POSA AT THE TIME. 
          IF ANYTHING WAS DEVELOPED WITH THE PROPERTY THAT THE SOUTHERN 42 FEET OF PROPERTY WOULD BE DEEDED TO MR. RON. AND THIS WAS FORWARDED TO US AT THE CLOSING NOT PART OF THE CLOSING. FORWARDED TO US BYRONS AT CLOSING. 
          THAT WAS GOING TO BE FORWARDED TO AT THIS TIME NEW BUYER. A1 AHOLDINGS. 
          WOULD YOU TAKE THIS INTEREST CONSIDERATION HAD THEY MAKE A DECISION THIS PROPOSAL. 
          THANK YOU. I HAVE COPIES FOR ANYBODY. >>  GIVE IT OUR TORN I WISH WE 
          HAD HEARD THAT BEFORE TODAY. >>  AND EXCUSE ME, SIR >> WAS THAT FOR THE NORTH PARCEL 
          OR SOUTH? >>  NORTH. >>  OKAY. 
          >>  OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? I SAW MR. WHITEHOUSE LEAVE THE 
          ROOM IT ALLOW HIM REBUTTAL. >>  HE LET ME KNOW BEFORE HE WENT OUT. 
          THAT'S WHAT HE IS DOING. WE WAIT A SECOND FOR HIM TOM COME BACK. 
          VERY INTERESTING PUBLIC COMMENT. DIFFERENT IN MANY RESPECTS PROSECUTE A LOT OF THE LETTERS WE RECEIVED. 
          THERE HE IS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD HAD THE LAST SPEAKER'S COMMENTS IF 
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THE PROPERTIES ARE GOING TOSOLD OR DEVELOPED. NORTH OR SOUTH. 
          >>  NORTHERN. SO -- IT IS IMPORTANT TALK THE MORE I APPEAR BEFORE YOU THE MORE I APPRECIATE THE PLANNING AGENCY YOUR JOB IS IT REVIEW PROPOSALS OUR CODE AND PLAN TO SEE IF THEY APPROPRIATE UPON OBVIOUSLY IT IS A MAJOR MODIFICATION WHICH IS REZONING FOR COMPAT ABILITY. START ON THE USES PROPOSED. THE TWO THAT DON'T SEEM TO BE YOU HEARD SOME GENERIC REFERENCE THE TWO THAT DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION BASED ON COMPATIBILITY ARE 2 SINGLE FAMILY U ANYMORES THEY ARE COMPATIBLE TO THE UNITS NEXT TO THEM AND UP AND DOWN TO SAY THAT ISSUE TWO UNITS AGAIN, UNDER OUR CODE ARE NOT AN IMPACT TRANSPORTATION ISSUE OR FOR TRAFFIC IS RIDICULOUS. NUMBER TWO, TO SAY THAT IT TELL PUT TOO MANY MORE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD FOR 2 RESIDENTS WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS UP AND DOWN HIGHWAY EVERY DAY ON VACANT LOTS. THAT HAS NO ISSUE. IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT IS COME BACK TO THE PUBLIC PARKING. ALL THE STUFF I HEARD PRAYER TO THE LAST FEW DAYS FROM THE MEMBERS WHO ADMINISTRATION. FROM PROPER PLANNING TECHNIQUES. FROM THE PEOPLE IN OCEAN GRAND THEY WERE SPEAKING OUT IN HAD FAVOR THEY WANT PUBLIC ACCESS THEY HAVE BEEN TELLING COUNTY THIS FOR YEARS. THAT WAS HOW THE PROPOSAL WAS ORIGINALLY FORMULATED IT PROVIDE PARKING ON THE NORTHERN PARCEL. THAT'S WHY IT DID NOT APPEAR THROUGH MAJORITY OF THE EVALUATION THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR A YEAR AND A HALF WITH COUNTY STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS AND ADMINISTRATION, THAT IT WOULD BE OBJECTIONAL TO HAVE NUMBER ONE, TWO SINGLE FAMILY UNITS ONE ON EACH END. AND THEN TO PROVIDE LAND FOR THE PUBLIC PARKING. 
          TALK ABOUT SOME OF COMMENTS. IT IS BECOME CRYSTALLIZED WHAT WE ARE TALKING BURGLAR WHEN OPPOSED AND WHO IS FOR IT TOMORROW WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND NOT JUST HERE TODAY AND THE E NAILS I TRIED TO LOOK THROUGH AUTOPSY YOU SEE ON THE OVER HEAD THE TWO ORANGE NEIGHBORHOODS THE ONE TO THE NORTH IS THE TIDE'S EDGE. SO TO SOUTH IS KINGSTON DRIVE. 
          THESE TWO HAVE THEIR OWN BEACH ACCESS ACROSS THE STREET. BOTH OF THEM HAVE IT. 
          NO WALK OVER OR TUNNEL. THERE IS NO WAY EXCEPT FOR WALK YOU GO ACROSS GOING TO THEIR BEACH ACCESS. PEOPLE THAT HAVE'S VERSUS HAVE NOTES. 
          AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE OCEAN GRAND PEOPLE WITHHOLD LIKE ACCESS TO THE BEACH. 
          IT APPROPRIATE WHEN YOU REVIEW UNDER OUR CODE IN THE PLAN WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SOME PEOPLE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE PEOPLE PERFORM ALL THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTY. ALL THE PEOPLE OUR COUNTY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT. 
          I HEARD A GENTLEMEN SAY OUR PRIVATE BEACH AREA THIS IS NOT PRIVATE BEACH AREA THIS IS PUBLIC BEACH AREA THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS. YOU HEARD HAD THE REFERENCE WHEN THIS ROAD WAS MOVED TOOK AN ACT. GOD. BUT IT DOES AND I WAS A KID THEN AND I REMEMBER WE WOULD DRIVE BY AND SAY WHY ARE THEY CHANGING THE ROAD? WE WERE KIDS AND THOUGHT THAT IS RIDICULOUS. IT WENT THROUGH COURT CASES THE FACT IS, FLETCHER GOT THE STATE TO ALLOW TO MOVE ROAD. THAT ALSO THIS DEVELOPMENT TOOK THE BEACH ACCESS. THAT IS WHY THE DISCUSSION ABOUT A BEACH ACCESS ON NORTH ASK SOUTH. LAY PEOPLE COMMENT SAY CLEARLY THERE WOULD BE ENOUGH ROOM. 
          THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. WE HAD ENGINEER EVALUATES PART OF MY PACKET IS IS PRESENTATION I SHOWN YOU HOW SMALL IT IS ON THE SOUTH BARELY FIT A RESIDENT THAT'S WHY IT IS APPROPRIATE. 
          IMPORTANT THINGS YOU HEARD COMMENTS I WILL NOT PUT UP. I WILL SHOW WHERE WE ARE. 
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THIS -- IS THE NORTHERN TIDES EDGE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THEIR BEACH ACCESS. 
          IT IS NORTH OF THE AREA WHERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT I THINK THE TRUE SPIRIT OF PEOPLE'S VIEWS IN THE COUNTY ARE MORE REFLECTED BY ONE GENTLEMEN WHO SAID, HE LIVES RIGHT HERE. 
          ONE OF THE HOUSES TO THE NORTH HE WAS 50 FEET FROM THE OTHER RESIDENT APPROVED AND 150 FROM THE PARKING AND SUPPORTS IT BECAUSE IT IS AN APPROPRIATE TO ALLOW RESIDENTS OF ST.JOHN'S TO ACCESS OUR NATURAL RESOURCES. SPECIFICALLY SAYS WITHIN OUR PLAN. 
          THAT WE WILL PROMOST ACCESS TO OUR NATURAL RESOURCES RIVERS, BEACHES, ET CETERA. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS WHY THE APPLICANTS ARE NOT DEVELOPER BUT THAT IS WHY WHEN YOU WENT TO THEM AND I MET WITH THE COUNT AND HE I MET WITH RESIDENTS. THAT PROPOSAL IN TO GIVE THE  - LAND FEE SIMPLE TO THE COUNTY TO HAVE AN ACCESS IN THE AREA. LIKE I SAID. 
          WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW YOU SEE REFERENCES TO SAFETY CONCERNS AND ENVIRONMENTAL. 
          TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I WOULD HAVE TO CALL THOSE IN QUESTION. THAT IS NOT WHAT IS SAID IF YOU READ THE E MAILS WHAT IS BEING SAID WE HAVE THEIR'S THEY CAN'T HAVE THEIR'S THAT IS NOT APROPERTY, WHAT WE WANT TO PROVIDE BEACHAX SESZ. APPROPRIATE IT MEETS THE INTENT WHAT THE PUD SIDES AND TWO UNITS ON EACH END IF THERE IS EVIDENCE SO SHOW THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE I HAVE NOT SEEN IT AND NOT PRESENTED TODAY. AGAIN. 
          I WAS GOING THROUGH THE E MAILS I WILL NOT. I WILL TELL YOU ON THE SOUTH THE LAST THING IS YOU HEARD A COMMENT THAT SAID, THIS IS GOING TO BLOCK OUR VIEWS. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WILL BLOCK VIEWS AND I SHOWED YOU HOW SMALL THE FOOTPRINT FROM ENGINEERS GULFSTREAM DESCRIBE GROUP THAT IS NOT BLOCKING VIEWS. IT IS VERY COMPATIBLE TO ALL THE OTHER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE DENIALS UP DOWN A1A. I CAN ANSWER KQUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. >>  MR. MATOVINA? >>  RIGHT UP -- IT SAYS A COUNT PARKING AREA WILL BE ALLOWED ON THE NORTHERN, SOUTHERN PART OF THE NORTHERN PARSOL IN THE COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENT. ASSIGNED FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF XHUSHT-COMMERCIAL AS ON THE LAND USE MAP AND STATED DEVELOPMENT IS LIMITED TO MAX OF 84,000 SQUARE FEET ON THIS PARCEL. WHAT IT IS THAT MEAN. I DON'T KNOW THE SECOND PART OF WHERE YOU ARE READING THERE FROM. THIS APPEARS TO BE YOUR TEXT FOR THE PUD. F. IN OUR STAFF REPORT PAGE. 
          LET ME GRAB THE STAFF REPORT. >>  MR. CHAIRMAN >> I BELIEVE THAT IS A TYPO. 
          NOT SURE IF THAT IS A BAD COPY THAT WHAT IS LOOK LIKE. I THINK A NONFINALIZED VERSION. 
          THERE IS NO COMMERCIAL COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL PLANNED FOR THIS SITE. 
          IF YOU GO TO THE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS -- DOES NOT HAVE A PAGE NUMBER. 
          >>  THAT SECOND PART THE FIRST PART OF THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. THE SECOND PART -- I DON'T KNOW 
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WHERE THAT CAME FROM MAY HAVE BEEN CARRIED OVER FROM ANOTHER TEXT 
          >> FIRST PART THAT SAYS -- THAT THE COUNTY THEY GRANT -- I DON'T HAVE IT. 
          GRANT. WHERE DOES THE SENTENCE END? >>  BEFORE THE PART THAT TALKS 
          ABOUT PLAN. WHY AFTER THE WORD, COUNTY? >>  YES , SIR. 
          >>  THAT HAS NOTHING TO TO. HOW DO WE KNOW THE REST IS -- CORRECT? THE CITIZEN THE OF AREA OF ST.JOHN'S, THAT THE DISTRICTS REGULATIONS CONTAINED ARE MADE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PER JUNS JOHNS COUNT AND HE PROMOTE THE ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT OF THE COUNTY. REFERENCED THAT GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE COMP PLAN. 
          FOR ME STANDING BACK I BELIEVE THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE CODE TO PROMOTE THE ORDERLY EQUIPMENT YOU AGREED WITH THAT. SINCE THIS WAS APPROVED IN THE BEGINNING IN 85, THE INTENT WAS IT ALLOW PUBLIC ACCESS TO OUR PUBLIC BEACHES. WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT I THINK. I AGREE WITH THAT. I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TWO SINGLE FAMILY. UNDERSTAND THIS IS PART OF A LAWSUIT AND FORECLOSURE THEY TERROR REBUFFING THE MONEY THEY LOST IS A RISK. 
          THAT'S NOT OUR JOB. MAINTAIN THE ACCESS TO OUR 42 MILES OF BEACHES PLUS BENEFIT THE COUNTY IS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PROPOSAL. AS WELL. 
          A LITTLE CHANGE. IT IS NOT HUGE. JEN, GO AHEAD YOU PUT UP. 
          I THINK IT SAYS, NUMBER ONE ON IT? THE CODE SECTION 411G WITHIN STATES THE COUNT SHALL NOT RELOCATE ACCESS POINTS TO THE BEACH WITHOUT REQUIRING DEDICATION OF EQUALOR GREATER ACCESS POINTS. THE COMP PLAN 714 OF 2015 COMP PLAN AMENDMENT. DICTATE ITS COUNTY IN THE VACATE EXISTING EASEMENT ASKS ACCESS 
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POINTS TO BEACHES WATER WAYS WITHOUT EQUALOR GREATER MITIGATION. 
          SECTION DETAILS RBI TENT TO PRESERVE ISSUE PROTECT AND ENHANCE COASTAL RESOURCE ASKS MAINTAIN ASK IMPROVE AND INCREASE PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS. YOU ARE TRYING TO DO. 
          HABITAT CONVERSATION PLAN THE COUNT COMP PLAN MANDATES THE COUNTY WILL PAIN TAPE AND INCREASE PUBLIC BEACH AND WATERWAY ACCESS THROUGH ACQUISITION AND LAND USE CONTROLLESS. AT LEAST 1 EXISTING OR NEW PUBLIC BEACH WAY SHALL BE IMPROVED WITH THE AMENDMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAPPENED I WANTED TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD I'M SORRY THAT WAS BORING. WHAT WANT IT LOOK AT TWO PARCELS. 
          HERE NUMBER TWO. YOU HAVE DIVIDED IN HALF. AND YOU ARE MORE THAN HALF. 
          YOU ARE -- FEE SIMPLE DEEDING CONVEYING FOR BEACH ACCESS FOR 20 SPOTS, YOUR INTENTION? 
          >>  ARE YOU SPEAKING THE ONE ON THE SCREEN. THAT IS ONE I WANT TO TALK 
          ABOUT. >>  I WANT TALK ABOUT THE SOUTH PARCEL I CAN'T FIND MY PAPER. 
          NO BEACH ACCESS THE SOUTH THIS IS MY PROBLEM. ON THE -- NUMBER ONE AS WE DID HERE TESTIMONY ABOUT TODAY ON THE COASTAL STORM RISK MANAGEMENT CSRM PROJECT, IT IS THAT PORTION. IS ALSO ON GOING COUNT SUPPORT PROJECTS THESE ARE SEPARATED IN TWO SEPARATE STORM MANAGEMENT SECTIONS. ON ONE THE SOITH KSRM PROJECT. 
          YOU I DID CHECK WITH STAFF AND I BELIEVE MR. SMITH WE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY FEET OF DEVELOPABLE LAND ON THE SOUTHERN MOST PARCEL YOU CAME UP THREE THOUSAND MAY BE. 
          THE QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT PARKING SPOTS THE STATE WOULD TAKE FIVE. 
          SO WE WOULD NOT GET THE FEDERAL BENEFIT BUT GET THE STATE BENEFIT. 
          BUT LINEAR FEET OF BEACH PROPERTY THAT IS CONVAPED TO THE COUNTY STILL BENEFITS ALL OF THE STORM MANAGEMENT THINGS WE HAVE GOING ON. SO, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS THAT -- IF THIS GOES FORWARD I KNOW IT GOED TO BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THE SECOND HALF OF THE PARCEL IF NOT DEVELOPABLE ANYWAY, THEN IT IS JUST A TAX BURDEN FOR THIS LANDOWNER TO CONVEY SECOND HALF OF THAT PARCEL SO COUNTY HAS THAT LINEAR FEET OF BEACH TO MITIGATE FOR THE LOSS OF THE PARKING. IS PERHAPS AN OVER PASS COULD BE SENT OVEREEN FOR OCEAN GRAND. THOSE ARE THINGS FOR COUNTY TO DECIDE. 
          A THOUGHT. >>  IF I CAN ADDRESS THAT THROUGH CHAIR. 
          THIS IS THE SOUTHERN END. REALLY, -- THIS IS -- I DON'T KNOW -- IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS THE PIECE YOU SEE THE OUT LINE OF THE PARCEL IS DEVELOPABLE. 
          THAT IS THE DEVELOPABLE PART THE DOTTED LINES ON THE OVER HEAD. YOU SEE GREEN WHICH MEETS THE SETBACKS AND GOES IT CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINEUP YOU CAN YOU PUT SOMETHING ON THE LOT THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN THE ENGINEERS LOOKED YOU BARELY FIT A REASONABLE SIZE NOT HUGE A REGULAR OTHERS THE BEACH ON THAT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS I WILL POINT OUT I'M NOT OPPOSED SWHA YOU SAY. WHEN YOU SAY COUNTY IS GIVING BEACH ACCESS THEY ARE NOT THERE ARE NO EASEMENTS OR REQUIREMENT. NO NOTHING THE TWO PARCELS AS YOU SEE FROM YOUR EXPERT STAFF REPORT IS REQUIRED IF ARE BEEPER ACCESS. THERE IS NOT ANYTHING THAT WE ARE GETTING INTO TROUBLE THAT WE GIVING AWAY BEACH ACCESS THE PURPOSE PROPOSING TO GIVE A PIECE TO THE COUNTY TO DO IT IS TO MEET THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF TE PUDEEN THOUGH IT IT IS NOT 
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REQUIRED. THAT WAS THE REASON WE DID IT AND REASON NOT TO THE SOUTH END WELL IS NO ROOM TO HAVE PARKING. SO IF IT IS JUST THE ONE PROPOSAL YOU SAID THE END YOU TIED UP WITH THE GRANT PART TO THE COUNTY TO USE IT WE CAN LOOK AND IF APPROPRIATE WE WILL BE GLAD TO. WE CAN'T USE THAT ANYWAY. AS FAR AS A BEACH ACCESS THIS THERE IS NO WAY TO TO A WALK OVER THERE IS NO WAY TO GET THERE. 
          THIS IS MORE DOWN BY NEIGHBORHOOD YOU HEARD FROM THE PEOPLE AND THEY HAVE THEIR BEACH ACCESS THERE. YOU CAN'T PUT PARKING AND THERE IS NO WAY TO GET HERE BY WALKING, AGAIN, WE WOULD BE GLAD BECAUSE IF IT DOES NOT AFFECT ONE PUTTING WONG SINGLE FAMILY 
          UNIT THERE IT DOES NOT ASCII MY CLIENT. >>  IS THIS OCEAN GRAND THE PART ON THE NORTH IS CLOSER YOU GO FIRST I THINK THERE IS A TUNNEL. BUT I THINK THERE IS IA WAY YOU GET ACROSS AT MAIN CROSSING ASK THE COULD BE A SIDEWALK AND I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE AN ARIAL OF -- I MEAN HERE YOU SEE FAR AWAY. IT IS MUCH MORE THAN A SIDEWALK ON THE EASTERN SIDE HERE LOOK AT THE GREEN SPACE. I DON'T VICE PRESIDENT A CLOSE PICTURE OF THAT. I'M NOT SAYINGLY WE SHOULD DO THIS I'M SAYING FIGURE WE HAVE A WAY TO GET THERE BY FOOT. A PRIVATE WALK OVER ON THE SOUTHERN MOST PARCEL. 
          WE HAVE A COUPLE COMING DOWN, YOU KNOW THAT. I DON'T KNOW 
          >> >>  I KNOW THE PEOPLE FEEL CONSTRAINED AND I UNDERSTAND 
          THAT. IT IS A THOUGHT. >>  YES, MA'AM. 
          UNDERSTAND. >>  I'M -- I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AGAIN. 
          I WANT IT THE BEST BENEFIT EFFICIENT COUNT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BEACH ACCESS JUST DWINDLED DISAPPEARED FROM THE PUD THERE IT IS NOT A CLEAR PATH. 
          BUT INTENT THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THIS WAS ROAD GOT MOVED. THE CONDOS BUILT THERE ON THE BEACH AND P. THAT THERE WAS ACCESS TO THE TWO SIDES WERE AS TIME HAS GONE ON AND CRIES HELPED THAT GONE AWAY. I JUST AM ADVOCATING TO RESTORE AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 
          >>  I UNDERSTAND AND I THINK I THINK YOU ARE SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM YOU WOULD ADD A 
          BEACH ACCESS. >> YES , I WANT MORE FOR THE COUNTY. 
          >>  YES, MA'AM. MR. OLSON. WHERE YEA. 
          I GUESS A QUESTION AND A COUPLE THOUGHTS. IS IT CAN WE CONFIRM THAT WE CAN MEET THE FEDERAL POINT SYSTEM FOR BEACH RENOURISHMENT WITH 20 SPACE SYSTEM IS THAT THE FORMAL? 
          >>  I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. >>  IS THAT CORRECT? >>  GETTING 20 ON THAT SITE WOULD GIVE US POINTS FOR. IS 20 THE CUT OFF? I'M CURIOUS I HEARD THAT ARE MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. COMMISSIONERS I'M THE EMERGENCY MANAGER DIRECTOR OVER SEAS COASTAL MANAGEMENT. TO ANSWER THAT IT IS NOT A HARD AND FAST NUMBER OF 20. LIKE TO SEE 20 TO GET THE MACK BENEFIT. 
          HOWEVER, I MEAN THEY WILL ALLOW US PLUS OR MINUS A COUPLE HERE OR THERE. 
          MS. SPIEGEL WAS RIGHT A COUPLE SPOTS A BENEFIT FROM THE STATE AND FEDS. 
          IF THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE LOT IS HAS ABILITY FOR A TROLLEY STOP OR SOMETHING. 
          WE COULD BENEFIT FOR FULL COST SHARE OF THAT HALF A MILE OF BEACH FOR THE ACCESS. 
          NOW IT BASED ON PARKING. THE FEDERAL WAY TO LOOK AT THEY WERE PUTTING IN FEDERAL DOLLARS. 
          IT IS EVERYBODY'S TAX DOLLAR. SOMEONE FROM KENTUCKY CAN COME HERE AND ENJOY BEACH BASED ON THAT. THAT'S WHY THAT IS THERE. WHY THANK YOU AM 
          >>  I GUESS IT IS NOT ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN HOW MANY SPACES YOU CAN CARVE OUT THERE. 
          IS A PUBLIC RESTROOM REQUIRED FOR ALL THE? >>  YOU GET MORE STATE FUNDING FOR DIFFERENT AMENITIES. THE FEDS ARE LOOKING AT PARKING. THE STATE WILL BRING IN FUNDS 
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          BASED ON RESTROOMS, BIKE RACKS. >>  OKAY. THEN MY OTHER QUESTION MAY BE FOR STAFF IS HAS THERE BYE-BYE A STUDY OF TRAFFIC ISSUES OF INS TRAFFIC AT THAT CURVE COMING IN TO THAT PROPOSED PARKING LOT? SO -- OF COURSE THIS IS A HYPOTHETICAL PARKING LOT. THERE HAS NOT BEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE FOR IT. 
          IN THE EVENT THAT THIS APPLICATION IS APPROVED AND A PARKING LOT IS PROPOSED FOR COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION THIS IS A STATE ROAD. STATE WILL DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT A TRAFFIC STUDY IS REQUIRED TO INSTALL PARKING LOT. OKAY SO WE DON'T UPON HOW THE 
          DOWN ON THE ISSUE, OULD COME - >>  WE DON'T. >>  IF I CAN THROUGH THE CARE. 
          THIS THE -- DEPICTION ON THE SCREEN. WE HAD BEFORE WE CAME ASK MADE THIS PROPOSAL WE WANTED MAKE SURE HOW MUCH OF THIS DO WE NEED TO PUT A PARKING LOT THAT CAN GET APPROXIMATELY 20 SPACES AND FACILITIES IN THIS AREA. HOW MUCH WOULD WE NEED? WE HAVE THE ENGINEER THEY ARE FROM THE ENGINEER I SHOWED YOU THE I WILL NOT GO BACK IT SHOWED WITH THEIR SIDE SAYINGLY THEY LOOKEDA THE THT AND THIS IS WHAT IS WAS. 
          NOT A FULLY ENGINEERED PARKING LOT BUT TO SCALE AND SHOWS MEETING REGULATIONS OF A PARKING LOT YOU MEET TO HAVE 20 SPOTS HERE. THAT IS WE CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE IS THE ABILITY TO PUT THAT AMOUNT OF SPACES HERE. WHETHER CONFIGURED LIKE THIS PLAN SHOWS, IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE. THERE IS ROOM ON THIS PARCEL FREE AND CLEAR TO THE COUNTY TO DO THIS. THAT IS ANOTHER REASON TO GRANT IT FREE CLEAR COUNT HAS THE A LITTLE TO WORK WITH THE STATE FOR, PAPARKING LOT IT IS. 
          THERE WAS ONE IN CRESCENT BEACH THAT THE ONE WAS APPROVED. SOUTH OF 206 ON A1A. 
          MY POINT IS THE COUNTY AS A GENTLEMAN ORGANIZATION HAS A BETTER ABILITY TO GO AND GET THEM DONE FOR COUNTY MUNICIPAL PARKING LOTS ON STATE ROADS. FACILITIES AND TO HAVE GRANTS TO GET THINGS DONE THIS IS A REASON WHY I THINK PART OF PROPOSAL THAT WE MADE WAS BASED ON ADVOCACY TO HAVE THAT TRANSFERRED TO THE COUNTY. THERE IS NO , I TELL YOU ENGINEER DID LOOK I'M GIVING YOU THIS SQUARE HERE. WE HAD THEM LOOK. 
          THERE HELL BE PARKING THAT FIT THERE. YOU HAVE TO GET A PERMIT FOR ACCESS. WE THINK WOULD BE GRANTED THERE IS ANOTHER DOT ACCELLS GRANTED FOR THE BEACH CLUB. JUST TO THE SOUTH OF US AND ENOUGH ROOM FOR PARKING HERE, WHICH MEETS THE PLANS AND GOALS AND POLICIES FOR BEACH ACCESS. AND I TRY QUICKLY PICK UP ON OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP TO GET MORE CLARITY. BUT WE HEARD A LOT OF TESTIMONY ABOUT OCEAN GRAND REALLY THEY OTHER ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD ON STRETCH THAT DOES NOT THE HAVE TR OWN PRIVATE BEACH ACCESS. THEY HAVE THE TUNNEL UNDER IMPROVE AM IN PLACE TO GET THAT WHOLE POPULATION THERE. TO THE BEACH SIDE WITHOUT HAVING IT RISK BEING A1 A. 
          MY QUESTION I GUESS TO YOU IS IF THERE WERE A PRIVATE DEDICATED -- BEACH WALK WAY -- ACCESS. TO THE BEACH FOR NOT A PUBLIC ONE BUT TO -- AN ARRANGEMENT WITH OWNERS OF OCEAN GRAND ON THE SOUTH BORDERLINE OF THE -- OF SOUTH PARCEL. 
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THAT WOULD BE THE CLOSEST POINT THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT. THE TUNNEL COME OUT ON THE SOUTH SIDE PARKING LOT OF -- FORMER SARNADA. GIVE OCEAN GRAND PEOPLE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A DEDICATED BEACH ACCESS WALK WAY LIKE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THATTED BE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE. THEY WOULD NOT HAVE IT GET IN THEIR CAR. 
          SOME PEOPLE MAY WANT TO DO THAT BUT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT BENEFIT ATTACHED TO YOUR PROPERTY, COULD BE VALUABLE AND USEFUL FOR THOSE RESIDENTS. IS THAT POSSIBLE? 
          >> I MEAN I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE THE REAL QUESTION IS WE ONLY CONTROL THE TWO PARCELS I'M ASKING YOU ABOUT. THIS IS A PUD BUT THERE ARE PUD'S WHERE THERE ARE MULTIPLE OWNERS OF PARCELS. WE DON'T CONTROL A PART OWNED BY OCEAN VILACE OR PART THAT ARE IS OWNED BY. I REALIZE THAT. THERE IS A PRIVATE PARKING LOT 
          SEPARATING. >>  I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T -- WE CAN ANYTHING THAT ISOIR LAND WE CAN NEGOTIATE WITH YOU AND WORK THROUGH IT AND TRAWL TO PROVIDE STUFF ON OUR LAND BUT I CAN'T PROVIDE SOMETHING ON OTHER LAND BECAUSE THIS IS A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO THIS PUD. IS THERE I A POSSIBILITY WE CAN LOOK ASK SEE IF THIS IS A WAY TO HAVE A TYPE OF ACCESS ACROSS THAT AREA. YES, WE CAN LOOK AND SEE BUT HOW 
          THAT YOU GET THERE. >>  WORSE CASE IS >>  AND DEDICATED JUST FOR THEM. 
          I DON'T KNOW, ANYBODY CAN WALK. >>  WORSE CASE IS OF COURSE WALKING ALONG BIKE PATH OF A1A 
          DOWN THERE. >>  YEA, YEA. OKAY. 
          WE WILL LOOK I HEAR WHAT BOTH OF YOU ARE SAYING I THINK BOTHFUL YOU I TALKED TO YOU BEFORE AND I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID MS. SPIEGEL YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HAD WE ARE ASKING YOU LIKE US IT LOOK SEE IF THERE IS AN ACCESS TO BE HAD. IF THERE IS WE WILL BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION AND IF THERE IS NOT THE REST IS STILL I WILL GIVE YOU MY WORD I WILL LOOK IF WE CAN'T FIGURE THAT OUT THE REST IS STILL APPROPRIATE ESPECIALLY WE ARE GIVING THAT LAND FOR THE PUBLIC BEACH ON THE NORTH I THINK ARE TWO MAIN THINGS YOU WERE ADDRESSING. 
          >>  FINAL OBSERVATION. I AGONIZE ABOUT THAT PARKING LOT FOR BEACH ACCESS IN TERM ITS OF ENVIRONMENTAL. BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT'S AN AREA OF BEACH THAT IS HAS -- [INAUDIBLE] ESTABLISHD AND YOU ARE BUILDING ON A SAND DUB, I THINK IT IS LESS DESTRUCTIVE BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY BEACH FRONT HOME ALONG THERE THAN TO BELL A PAVED PARKING LOT WITH ALL THE ADDED TREATMENT TO THE LAND. LIKELY DESTRUCTION OF NATURAL DUNE. DUNE AIM OF THIS WE HAVE DRAWN IN THE PRINCIPLE. 
          EVERYTHING WE HAVE SHOWN IS THE ABILITY TO DO IT TO WEST. OF OF THE CCL. 
          WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN MAJORITY ALONG COASTAL HIGHWAY. WHICH YOU HEAR ABOUT AND I WILL BE HERE IN THE NEXT FEW MEETINGS. THAT IS A POSITIVE THAT IS 
          PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT. >>  JAMES. I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE APPLICATION MATERIALS. OVER IS OVER LOOKING FOR YOU GRANTING ACCESS ON THE SOUTHERN PARCEL. AND IT WAS NEVER IN THERE. I WAS EMHADDING THERE WOULD BE STATISTICS HOW FAR IT WAS. WHAT I'M SAYING I LIKE MS. SPIEGEL'S PROPOSAL. 
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I LIKE THAT ACCESS TO THE SOUTHERN END OF THE SOUTHERN PARCEL. 
          IF YOU CAN WORK THAT OUT -- >>  WE WILL LOOK. EVEN WITH A TROLLEY STOP THE COUNTY WILL GET A BENEFIT. I'M SURE WILL NOT BE ROOM FOR A PARKING LOT THE COUNTY CAN GET ECONOMIC BENEFIT OUT OF THAT THE PUBLIC GETS OKAY ACCESS I ENDORSE A SECOND ACCESS ON THE SOUTHERN END. AS FAR AS THE NORTHERN PARCEL I KNOW YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING WITH THAT. I HAD THE SAME IDEA MR. MATOVINA ASKED YOU FLIPPING THE USES THE PARKING LOT AND THE HOUSE ON THE NORTHERN END. I HAPPENING WOULD PERHAPS HELP SOME OF CONCERNS OF PEOPLE IN OCEAN VILLAS THAT DID NOT WANT THE PARKING LOT. 
          IT WOULD EXACERBATE FROM TIDE'S EDGE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT. 
          YOU LOOK WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE IS. ANOTHER REASON WHY WE PUSH TODAY SOUTH TO GET THAT MANY PARKING SPOT YOU IT IS PUT ON THE NORRING IT IS CONTRAINED AND IT 
          GOTS BIGGER AS YOU MOVE. >>  I DO. IT IS WIDER. 
          THAT'S THE OTHER REASON. YOU SEE THAT IS WHY WE DID THAT IT IS SMALLER CONDUCIVE TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND APPROPRIATE FOR THE SINGLE RESIDENCE TO BE NEXT TO ANOTHER SINGLE FAMILY READS R RESIDENCE. THERE WAS TECHNICAL AND PHYSICAL SITE REASONS IT WAS MOVED IT IS FURTHER FROM THE CURVE. . THE THINKING TRAFFIC AND OUT FURTHER NORTH WOULD BE FURTHER FROM THE CURVE AND MORE COMING OUT OF THAT PING LOT THAN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN FIT IT. FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT. 
          LOT SIZES WOULD BE DIFFERENT. RECONFIGURE THE PARKING LOT IN A WAY WHERE HOUSE IS FURTHER SOUTH AND THE LOT IS MORE LINEAR NORTH SOUTH IS STILL BE WEST OF THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE. WHICH I ENDORSE YOUR DOING THAT. I'M GRAD YOU ARE. 
          >>  AND REALLY I'M NOT THE ENGINEER, AS YOU KNOW. WE DID THIS OUT OF CONCEPTUAL IT WAS MORE THAN JUST DRAW ON A NAPKIN. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR OVER A YEAR AND A HALF TRYING TO GET IT TO YOU TO TALK AND THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH AND FLIPPING WHETHER WE TRIED TO FIT. NOT LIKE WE NEVER CONSIDERED THE SOUTH END IT WOULD NOT FIT AND THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T TO IT AND DIDN'T KNOW THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WOULD BE MAY BE A WALK OVER. WE WILL NOT DO THE WALK OVER BUT MAY BE GIVE LAND WEATHER THEY USE IT FOR THAT. WHEN THERE IS A PERMIT GRANTED WHO KNOW. PICTURE OF IT APOORS AND I DON'T HAVE A LASER POINTER WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOUTHERN END YOU SEE THE PAD AREA WHEN I SAY PAD AREA WHERE YOU PUT A HOUSE IN THE GREEN AREA. PUBLIC ENGINEERS CAN LOOK ASK CHOP OFF A PIECE ON THE OTHER END IS THAT ALSO GRANTED IS GET A WILLING DESCRIPTION AND THE COUNTY DOES WITH IT WHAT THEY WANT. THAT CAN BE A SUGGESTION IF WE CAN W THAT IN WE WILL. 
          IF WE CAN'T I THINK THE OTHER MEETS APPROPRIATE BUT WE CAN DO THAT. 
          >>  I AGREE HOUSES ARE COMB PATABLE. YOU SAYING A HOUSE NEXT TO A HOUSE IS MORE THAN PARKING LET NEXT TO THE HOUSE ON THE NORTHERN PARCEL. 
          YET ON THE SOUTHERN YOU HAVE A HOUSE NEXT TO THE OCEAN VILLAS. AND NOTHING ELSE. 
          IF YOU HAD BEACH ACCESS. >>  IT IS FAR AWAY. >>  PUT THE HOUSE TO THE NORTH ON THE SOUTHERN PARCEL. WHAT IS ONLY PLACE THERE IS ROOM. 
          I THINK YOU COULD RECONFIGURE IT AND SURE IT WAS MORE THAN A WRITING ON A NAPKIN. 
          >>  YES , SIR. >>  I APPRECIATE EFFORT. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. MR. LABANOWSKI. AND THEN MR. MATOVINA. 
          THIS IS MORE TO STAFF. MR. SMITH, IS THERE A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT THAT WE NEED FOR 
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BEACH ACCESS? 50 FEET WIDE OR A HUNDRED FEET WIDE. 
          IS THERE A STANDARD WE HAVE? PROBABLY NOT THE BEST FOR ME TO ANSWER I MAY HAVE TO DEFER TO CLINT. OF COURSE WE HAVE LAND STANDARDS FOR ROAD ACCESS THEY HAVE TO MET. AND INSTANCE WE TALK ABOUT A TROLLEY STOP ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE. THERE IS AN ANSWER FOR THAT IT WILL HAVE TOA MINIMUM. 
          I DON'T KNOW. PEDESTRIAN -- >>  CLINT, MANAGEMENT CHIEF ENGINEER I DON'T BELIEVE THERE A MINIMUM FOR ACCESS AS LONG AS A WALK WAY FITS. 
          50 OR 75 FEET WIDE GOING TO THE BEACH? >>  YES. 
          >> OKAY. >>  I LIKE MS. SPIEGEL'S RECOMMENDATION AS WELL IS DOCTOR H HELS HILSENBECK. YOU DON'T NEED THE PARKING, COULD BE A TROLLEY STOP. ALSO HELP OUT COMMUNITY ACROSS THE STREET. 
          IN THE SURE WHAT IS IN THE WOODED AREA THEY COULD PUT A NAME OF TRAIL ACROSS THROUGH THERE AND HAVE IT COME MOLEST ACCESS COMPLETE ACCESS TO THE BEACH.ACCESS COMPLETE ACCESS TO THE BEACH. SKWA MR. MATOVINA. I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION 
          >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL MAJOR MOD 2025-10 WB LN PARCELS ON SICK FINDING FACTS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND WITH THE CONDITION THAT TEXT SECTION F BE MODIFIED TO READ AS FOLLOWS:COUNTY PARKING AREA ALLOWED ON SOUTHERN PART OF THE NORTHERN PARCEL ON LOT GRANTED TO THE COUNTY. PERIOD, END OF SECTION F 
          >>  A MOWING BY MR. MATOVINA AND A SECOND, BY -- MISS PERKINS. FURTHER DISCUSSION? 
          >>  MS. SPIEGEL? >>  THANK YOU FOR LISTENING >> I AM FEEL FIRMLY ABOUT THIS SOUTHERN PARCEL AND IS THERE A WAY YOU WOULD ADD A STRONG ARE COMMITMENT THAN WE WILL LOOK AT 
          IT TOURE ON MOTION? >>  IF YOU CAN'T DO IT YOU CAN'T DO IT. 
          >>  CAN YOU EXPLORE THAT OPTION ASK ADD THAT TO. I DIDN'T MAKE MOTION. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION. BUT THE FACT IS I CAN TELL YOU AND THE STAFF TAKEN NOTES. 
          I TELL YOU AS PART OF WHAT WE WILL BRING FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION THEY SAY WHAT WAS DISCUSSED. THEY WILL SAY WHAT VOTE MOTION WAS. 
          I WILL TELL YOU PART OF IT THEY WILL MENTION IT THERE WAS DISCUSSION BIMS. SPIEGEL AND MR. LABANOWSKI ABOUT POSSIBLE ACCESS TO THAT SOUTHERN END AND APPLICANT AGREED TO LOOK INTO IT AND BRING WHAT THEY FOUND OUT. THERE ISY IN SKIN OFF THEIR BACK TO GIVE. 
          >> IT IS TAX DOLLARS. >>  I CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION I GOT TALK TO THEM AND THE ENGINEERS I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS AN ABILITY. DOES NOT MATTER TO US WE WILL BE GLAD TO GIFT LAND AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT PREVENT US FROM DOING THE SINGLE FAMILY ON THE SOUTH END. I WILL GIVE YOU MY WORD WE WILL SEE IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY 
          AND IF IS WE WILL PRESENT THAT TO THE COMMISSION. >>  I WANTED TO PAUSE IT THAT MY VOTE IN FAVOR IS WITH THAT. YOU KNOW EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT IN THE MOTION. 
          MY HEART BEHIND MY VOTE J. ECHO THAT CONCERN AND COMMENT. >>  OKAY. 
          >>  ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? TIME TO VOTE. PASS THE UNANIMOUSLY. 
          >>  THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>  SO. MEETING WILL BE ADJOURNED SHORTLY I HAVE ANY Y'ALL ARE FREE TO GO BUT WE HAVE A BIT MORE BUSINESS TO CONDUCT SO IF YOU COULD KEEP YOUR VOICES DOWN THATTED BE APPRECIATED. ANY AGENCY REPORTS? 
          [Staff Reports]
NO STAFF REPORT MR. CHAIR. I MEANT STAFF. I HAVE ONE YOU TALKED TO YOU 
          [Agency Reports]
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PREVIOUSLY. I HAVE SORRY TO PROLONG THE MEETING WITH Y'ALL HERE. 
          BEING Y'ALL KEEP YOUR VOICES DOWN? AND EXIT THE ROOM. 
          I HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT BROUGHT A CONCERN TO ME AND I TALK THE TO YOU ABOUT THIS EARLIER I'M GOING TO READ YOU HER TEXT TO ME UPON QUICKLY. OKAY YOU GO. 
          SURE. GREG. IF YOU NEED TO GO. 
          THIS IS ABOUT BILLBOARDS. OKAY. I WANT TO READ THIS IN RECORD AND ASK A QUESTION AND LEX YOU MAY BE CALLED UPON TO ANSWER SOME OF THIS. 
          SHE E MAILS ME AND TEXTS ME OFTEN ABOUT THINGS. THIS IS RELATED BILLBOARD IN ST.JOHN'S COUNTY. MY HUSBAND AND I THINK THERE ARE TOO MANY AND UNSIGHTLY. 
          THE EXCESSIVE NUMBER OF THEM I95 SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE ABOUT THE COUNTY THE MESSAGE IS WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE BEAUTIFICATION OF OUR ROADWAYS. A1A IS THE COASTAL BY WAY. 
          THE CONTRAST IS EVIDENT WHEN DRIVE DOWN I95 WHEN YOU CROSS LINE TO FLAGLER IT IS EVIDENCED BEAUTY OF THE ROADWAY IS IMPORTANT IT THEIR OFFICIALS. THERE ARE FEW ARE IF ANY TREE AND OPEN SPACE. WHEN WE RETURN FROM A TRIP OUT OF THE PORT I GOOGLED FLAG FLER'S STANCE. WE LEARNED THE FLAGLER COUNTY HAD AN EFFORT BUY OUT IF THAT IS THE TERM THE OWNERS OF THE BILLBOARDS TO IMPROVE THE BEAUTY. 
          SOUNDS LIKE A BRILLIANT MOVE. ARE THERE ARE SUGGESTIONS MIGHT HAVE TO START THE PROCESS OF REMOVING BILLBOARDS IN ST.JOHN'S COUNTY. I KNOW ATTENDING MEETINGS RESIDENTS CAN SPEAK. AM I HAVE BILLBOARDS BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONERS IN YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE CAN'T IMAGINE WE ARE OTHER ONLY ONE WHO THINK THEY ARE UNATTRACTIVE. TOLD HER BILLBOARDS WERE NOT IN THE PURVIEW OF THE P FWSHGS A. 
          WE DID BUSINESS SIGN REGULATION. BILLBOARDS WAS NOT SOMETHING UNDER OUR PURVIEW AND I WAS NOT SURE ABOUT THE BOARD EVER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THEY WOULD HAVE TOA CHARGE IN ORDINANCE OR -- SO FORTH. I TOLL HER I WOULD ASK Y'ALL. IN THE MEANTIME SHE LOOKED UP WHY THERE ARE FEWER IN FLAGLER COUNTY. NUMBER ONE ACT ITCH REMOVAL PROGRAMS. FLAGLER IMPLEMENTED BUY OUT BILLBOARDOS I95 AND THE SCENIC BUY WAY. SCENIC BY WAY FOCUS. A FOCUS ON MAINTAINING CHARACTER OF THE CORRIDOR LEADING TO STRICTER RULES AND REMOVALS INCLUDING SIGNS UPON LOCAL INITIATIVES GROUP LIKE FRIENDS OF A1 AHISTORIC COATAL BY WAY SUPPORTED BILLBOARD REMOVALS. 
          ST.JOHN'S MAINTAINS MORE BILL ORDER BOOS IS AND FLAGLER MADE AN EFFORT REDUCE THE NUMBER CREATING THE VISUAL DIFFERENCE. TOLD HER I WOULD BRING THIS UP AND GET BACK. 
          IVE HOPE SHE IS WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW. BUT I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT HAS BEEN A LONG MEETING SO. >>  WHAT CAN WE DOM ABOUT BILLBOARDS IF ANYTHING. 
          JUST LET'S HEAR IT. >> YES , SIR. COUNTY ULTIMATELY HAS A PROGRAM. 
          SIMILAR. DON'T MEAN TO SAY THEY ARE BUYING THEM THEY HAVE REDUCTION PROGRAM IN PLACE. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT. I GIVE YOU A BRIEF. 
          OUR SIGN CODE GIVES A FULL SECTION SET ASIDE TO FEEL REMOVING BILLBOARDS AND THE PROGRAM THAT EXISTS TO DO IT. IT IS LIKE A BUY DOWN PROGRAM. SO -- AS YOUR BILLBOARD EXPIRES YOU CAN GET RID OF IT AND GIVES YOU CREDITS FOR COMPLIANT BILLBOARDS. 
          IT IS EYE SLOW WAY OF GETTING RID OF THIS. IT IS IN THE FAST. 
          ARTICLE 7.001 IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT WITH CODE. BROADLY SPEAKING PERMITS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU ARE SEEING IN OUR COUNTY ALL OF THESE ARE HISTORIC AND A VESTAGE OF THE PAST. 
          I WOULD SAY THAT IF IT WAS TO THE BOARD'S PZA'S LIKING CAN YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THE 
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COMMISSIONERS CONSIDER MORE REGULATIONS THAT IS CURRENTLY NOT THE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW. 
          J I DON'T WANT IT DO THAT TODAY TWO MEMBERS LEFT. 
          DID YOU HAVE THOUGHTS? >>  THE COUNTY HAVE THE NOT THE ONLY ENTITY THIS CONTROLLESS WHEN BILLBOARDS AND WHICH ROADS AND DIFFERENT ROADS HAVE STATE COMPONENTS THAT DO THE PERMITTING FOR BILLBOARDS. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT SOME TODAY. 
          BUT THE BILLBOARDS ARE NONCONFORMING AND THERE FOR A LONG TIMER VESTED AT THIS POINT. 
          THERE IS POTENTIALLY THING STAFF WITH RESEARCH TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OVER TIME. ACTUAL TAKE THEM OUT AS THEY GET KNOCKED DOWN. 
          NOT BE REPLACED EVEN THAT MAY REQUIRE US IT DO A GENTLEMANAL TAKING AND PAY PEOPLE FOR THEM. 
          IT IS WE HAVE TO DOUBLE -CHECK THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS SOME OF THEM WILL BE UNDER THEIR 
          CONTROL. >> OKAY. GOOD. 
          >>  JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO TELL HER SOMETHING I TOLL HER I THOUGHT SHE AND A GROUP OF HER FRIENDS SHOULD GET TOGETHER AND SPEAK BEFORE THE BOARD EVER COUNSEL COMMISSIONERS AND ASK THEM FOR ANOTHER TO IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM OR GET CLARITY FROM THEM OR DIRECTION. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME AFTER A LONG MEETING TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          THAT'S IT. >>  I GUESS WE ARE ADJOURNED IF
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