Feb 03, 2026 Board of County Commissioners

[Call to Order by Chair]

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>> WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. IF UL CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER CLAY MURPHY? >> PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER ANN TAYLOR?

>> PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN WHITEHURST?

>> PRESENT. ER >> COMMISSIONER SARAH ARNOLD

?FRJTS PRESENT. ER >> COMMISSIONER KRISTA JOSEPH?

>> PRESENT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, WE WILL NOW GO TO THE INVOCATION BY PASTOR JOSH RO C CLAY FOR THE PROCLAMATION. ER

>> FATHER, GOD, KING OF HEAVEN, LORD OF THE EARTH, WE SK*U ASK YOU TO COME IN AND HELP US IN THE ADMINISTRATING OF OUR GOOD COUNTY. YOUR WAY OF LEADING WILL COME, YOUR WILL AND DESIRES WILL BE DONE ON EARTH IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY JUST AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.

WE ASK FOR WISDOM FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORSFINGER THE ATTORNEY, EVERY PERSON ON THIS STAFF, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE GREAT WISDOM, GREAT PEACE AND TRUTH IN THIS ENVIRONMENT THIS MORNING. LORD, WE COME TO YOU WITH GREAT HUMILITY, WITH GREAT HUMBLENESS AND WE THANK YOU YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN THERE TO GUIDE OUR NATION, TO HELP GUIDE OUR GREAT STATE AND HELP GUIDE OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT SO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT YOU DO, IN YOU WE TRUST AND IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.

>> AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> GOOD MORNING, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION THIS MORNING BUT I

[Proclamation Recognizing Black History Month]

>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, I SEE MY TEAM COMING DOWN. SHANE, IF YOU WOULD READ THE PROCLAMATION INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE. ER

>> A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA, WHEREAS THE THE YEAR 2026 MARKS THE 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE FEDERAL RECOGNITION.ER BLACK AMERICANS, IN OBSERVANCE THAT BEGAN AS A WEEK LONG CELEBRATION AND HAS SINCE GROWN INTO AN OVERALL CULTURAL OBSERVANCE OF BLACK HISTORY THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, AND WHEREAS THE THEME FOR 2026, A CENTURY OF BLACK HISTORY COMMEMORATIONS HIGHLIGHTS THE SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND DEVELOPMENTS IN BLACK HISTORY OVER THE PAST CENTURY, AND WHEREAS BY CELEBRATING BLACK HISTORY MONTH, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE VITAL ROLE THAT BLACK AMERICANS HAVE PLAYED IN SHAPING OUR NATION, CONTRIBUTING IMMENSELY TO ARTS, SCIENCES, EDUCATION, GOVERNANCE AND CULTURE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, AND THE UNITED STATES. AND WHEREAS DURING BLACK HISTORY MONTH, ALL AMERICANS ARE ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE IN EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES THAT PROMOTE UNDERSTANDING AND APPRECIATION OF BLACK HISTORY AND CULTURE. AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BENDER OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA THAT FEBRUARY 2026 BE DESIGNATED AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH, PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF IS THE JOHNS FEBRUARY THIS 3RD DAY OF 2026.

>> GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING. I HAVE SAID MULTIPLE TIMES, BLACK HISTORY IS INDEED AMERICAN HISTORY, AND THE MORE WE EVOLVED TO LEARN THIS GREAT HISTO IN MY OPINION, ST. JOHNS COUNTY, ST. AUGUSTINE HAS THE GREAT HISTORY. IT WAS TWO STIPULATIONS THAT THE SLAVES HAD TO ENDURE, ONE WAS TO BECOME A CATHOLIC AND THE OTHER ONE WAS JOIN THE MILITIA, WHAT A GREAT HONOR THAT I HAVE TO STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY TO SIMPLY SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]. [APPLAUSE].

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( TAKING PHOTOGRAPH ). >> CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION?

[Acceptance of Proclamation]

>> SO MOVED. ER >> SECOND.

ER >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

>> AYE. CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[Deletions to Consent Agenda]

DO WE HAVE ANY -- DO WE NEED TO DO APPROVAL FIRST? >> ADDITIONS AND DELETIONS?

>> YEAH, ANY ADDITION OR DELETIONS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA?

MR. ARNOLD? YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> I HAVE NONE.

. INGER THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>> I HAVE NONE. >> MR. TAYLOR? >> I HAVE NONE.

>> AND I HAVE NONE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO

APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> I'LL MOVE. >> PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION, DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

ER >> OKAY, WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> AT THIS TIME WE'LL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT GENERAL DA. SEEING NONE, WE

[Approval of Consent Agenda]

WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT >> SWRE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

>> AYE. ER >> ALL OPPOSED?

[Additions/Deletions to Regular Agenda]

>> THANK YOU, THAT IS PASSED. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE REGULAR

AGENDA. COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >> I HAVE NONE.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITE LUSTER? >> I HAVE NONE. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR?

>> I HAVE NONE. >> THE THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT?

[Approval of Regular Agenda]

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO

ACCEPT -- >> I HAVE A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND.

A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> AND OPPOSED? THAT IS PASSED. NOW WE'LL GO THE GENERAL PUBLIC

[Public Comment]

COMMENT. >> [INAUDIBLE]. ER

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. NO, WE DON'T HAVE COMMENT. IT'S JUST GENERAL PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS THAT ARE NOT SCHEDULED FOR ACTION ON TODAY'S AGENDA. WHEN ADDRESSING THE BOARDFINGER COME ONE OF THE THREE PODIUM TS, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. EACH PERSON WILL BE PROVIDED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND WE ASK THAT YOU SFAOEK INTO THE MICROPHONE.

SPEAKERS MAY NOT DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD.

MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WILL REFRAIN FROM ANY DISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS AND ANY SPEAKER THAT WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT MATERIALS, COME TO THE CENTER PODIUM AND PAPER MATERIALS CAN BE PLACED ON THE OVERHEAD CAMERA TO DISPLAY. LAPTOP COMPUTERS CAN BE SET UP WITH ANY USB PRESENTATION AND AFTER PRESENTING, PLEASE PRESENT THE MATERIALS TO THE STAFF OF THE CLERK OF THE -- TO BE ENTERED IN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

COME ON UP. >> I GUESS I NEED TO BE TALLER, PAT FLUORIDE, ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, I'M A LITTLE LATE, MY COMMENTS GO BACK TO AN EARLIER PERIOD.

AT YOUR MEETING ON NOVEMBER 18, 20025, YOU ALL ELECTED A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR, MR. MURPHY VOTED AGAINST HIMSELF THEREFORE HE WAS NOT ELECTED. WHITEHURST SAID HE WOULD

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MY VIEWS GO WITH THE 2. I UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY PAID FOR THE CLASS MURPHY WENT TO IN ORLANDO BUT DID NOT TRULY COMPLETE. ANOTHER REASON TO NOT HAVE HIM AS CHAIR. DID YOU, MR. MURPHY, REIMBURSE THE COUNTY FOR THE COST OF THE COURSE? IF NOT, YOU SHOULD. WHEN DID YOU COMPLETE THE ETHICS COURSE, BEFORE OR AFTER THE FIRST VOTE FOR THE CHAIR? I HOPE ALL COMMISSIONER HAVE COMPLETION OF ONLINE COURSES PROPERLY VERIFIED WHEN COMPLETED.

LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STATES THAT THE CHAIR WILL SIGN ORDINANCES TO BE RECORDED, WHY DID THE VICE CHAIR SIGN THE ORDINANCE IN JUNE 2025 TO RELIEVE MR. ILIUM OF 100 THOUSAND DOLLAR FINE. THE CHAIR WAS TAT MEETING, THE PACKET INCLUDED INFORMATION INDICATE THING CLAIR AND VICE CHAIR WOULD SIGN THE ORDINANCE. THE PACKETS FOR OTHER ORDINANCES AT THAT SAME MEETING INDICATED THE RECORDED DOCUMENT WOULD BE SIGNED BY THE CHAIR, KRISTA JOSEPH, WHY THE DIFFERENT SIGNATURES? THIS IS THE ORDINANCE THAT I STILL BELIEVE WAS INCORRECTLY APPROVED SO I AM STILL CEMENTING TO GET IT REVEALED, NOT REVEALED, REVISITED. EVERY TIME I ASK FOR RECORDS, I GET NEW INFORMATION THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE NEW REPORT. IT SHOWS ATTACHMENTS WAS INCLUDED. I EXPECT TO GET COPIES OF THE ATTACHMENT TS, IF IN YOUR APPLICATION YOU STATE THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY VALUE WILL NOT BE AFFECTED BECAUSE YOU ARE

PROVIDING A ONE ACRE -- >> THANK YOU,. >> AND THAT IS NOT DONE, FROM

WHAT I READ, YOU CANNOT APPROVE THE VARIANCE. >> THANK YOU, MS. WHITE.

OKAY, NEXT PUBLIC COMMENT? . >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS VICKY AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING MYSELF AND COMMUNITY ADVOCATES FOR RACIAL EQUITY, TO SERVE BRAQUE AND OTHER UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY BY IDENTIFYING RESOURCES INCLUDING FUNDING SOURCES LINKING THEM WITH COMMUNITY NEEDS AS IDENTIFIED BY COMMUNITY LEADERS. TODAY I'M GOING TO VIOLATE A FIRST PRINCIPLE OF EFFECTIVE ADVOCACY BY RAISING DIFFERENT ISSUES NA CARES RAISED BEFORE, IT'S EARLY IN THE NEW YEAR, WE'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU OF IMPORTANT ACTIONS THAT YOU TAKE FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COUNTY.

FIRST EVERY YEAR YOU NEED TO SET CONCRETE GOALS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSING AFFORDABLE AT THE MODERATE, LOW, VERY LOW AND EXTREMELY LOW LEVELS, THIS WILL PROVIDE A TARGET TO MEASURE AGAINST. SECOND, WE NEED A SEPARATE, DISTINCT COUNTY FUND DEDICATED TO USE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PURPOSES SUCH AS ASSISTING DEVELOPERS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS. THIRD, ONCE YOU IDENTIFY SUCH AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND, THEN YOU'LL NEED TO ENSURE SUFFICIENT ONGOING STREAMS OF REVENUE ARE IDENTIFIED OR CREATED TO KEEP IT FUNDED. FOURTH, WE NEED YOU TO HOLD DEVELOPERS ON WHOM THE COUNTY CAN HAVE PUBLIC BENEFITS IN RETURN TO THEIR PROMISES TO BUILD AFFORDABLE TO FAMILIES WHEN MEASURED AGAINST OUR AREA MEDIAN INCOME FOR THEIR PROMISES. ONE SOURCE OF MONIES AND THE FUND AVAILABLE FOR AFFORDABLE FUNDING PURPOSES COULD BE PAYMENT OF THE COUNTY OF VALUE OF DEVELOPMENTS CONFERRED TO DEVELOPERS FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TOS TOPT AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN FAILING TO FOLLOW THROUGH.

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>> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. >> CAROL GANG -- GANGY, THE ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH PATH HAS BEEN CHAOS FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS, AFTER NUMEROUS DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR BOARD OF REPRESENTATIVES, WE WERE PROMISED ONE THING ONLY TO FIND OUT LATER THAT THE PROCEEDINGS ON THIS PROJECT COULD WAIT ANOTHER MONTH, I'M REFERRING TO THE QUESTION OF THE LEGAL OWNERSHIP OF OUR PARK. THE COUNTY HAS NOT PRODUCED PROOF AFTER NUMEROUS REQUESTS OF THE DEED. THE SURVEY PARK AND REC PUT OUT ON FACEBOOK PROPOSED A PATH IS NEITHER STATISTICALLY VALID OR RELIABLE.

IT CAN BE MANIPULATED ONLINE. HOW CAN WE COMPETE WHILE BEING ONLY 1% OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY POPULATION AFTER BEING PROMISED THAT THE ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH RESIDENTS WOULD GET TO VOTE TON PROJECT. IT'S ENVIRONMENTALLY HARMFUL TO BUILD A WETLAND WITH ASPHALT, THE WATER TABLE IS 12 INCHES DOWN AND THEY PROPOSE TO DIG TWO FEET DOWN FOR THE PATH CONSTRUCTION. DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO YOU? THE PARK FLOODS WITH EVERY HEAVY RAIN AND CHANGE THING DRAINAGE FLOW WILL AFFECT NEIGHBORS.

PLEASE DON'T VOTE FOR THIS PROJECT AND CREATE MORE HAVOC IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS JUST STARTING TO HEAL OVER THE LAST TIME YOU SUGGESTED THIS HORRENDOUS IDEA.

YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO END THIS EGREGIOUS WASTE OF TAXPAYERS MONEY AND TO SAVE THE PRISTINE OF GREEN SPACE HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, TRANSFER THE BUDGET OF THE 1.6 MILLION OVER TO THE SAN SEBASTIAN BOAT FOR ALL OF THE OTHER 99% OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS TO USE AND PLEASE LEAVE THE SOUTH ALONE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT AND ALSO IF ANYBODY ELSE WILL BE SPEAKING DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, AGAIN, IE EMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, IF YOU COULD FORM TWO LINES ON EACH SIDE SO

WE CAN MOVE QUICKLY. THANK YOU. >> MARGOT, 249ARGONAUT ROAD, I'M SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS, I'M A WIDOW AS WELL AND YOU'RE HERE SO SOON, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

GOOD MORNING, I'M HERE AGAIN IN SUPPORT OF THE SHORE DRIVE TRAIL AND I'M HERE AGAIN TO SAY THIS ISN'T OKAY. THIS ISN'T OKAY FOR THE OPPOSITION TO COMPLAIN THAT PARKS AND REC HASN'T COMMUNICATED TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEN OBJECT WHEN A COMMUNITY MEETING IS SCHEDULED. IT ISN'T OKAY FOR THE OPPOSITION TO REQUEST THAT COMMUNITY PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND THEN OBJECT TO THE SURVEY PRESENTED.

IT ISN'T OKAY TO [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY STAFF FOR DOIPG THEIR JOBS.

SN'T OKAY TO KEEP PROMOTE THING THE SAME MISINFORMATION WHEN THE PLANS HAVE BEEN REVISED, THE TRAIL WIDTH REDUCE TO THE FIVE FEET, THE COURSE CHANGED TO NO LONGER BISECT THE GREEN SPACE AND IS PERMEABLE SURFACES ARE BEING USED WHERE APPLICABLE. YES, THEY LEAVE OUT THE FACT THAT THREE OF THE MAJOR OBJECTIONS TO THE LAST PLANS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.

AS RECENTLY AS SUNDAY, A NEXT DOOR POST CLAIMED THE SHORE DRIVE TRAIL WAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER YET THAT POSTER SPOKE AT THIS PODIUM TWO WEEKS AGO AND SUGGESTED THAT THE PROJECT BE CANCELLED AND THE FUNDS BUDGETED FOR OUR COMMUNITY BE TRANSFERRED TO THE BOAT RAMP AND PARK. SOME SPEAKERS SUGGESTED THAT WAS BETTER SUITED FOR A WALKING TRAIL. I CHECKED WITH PARK AND IS RECREATION AND WAS INFORMED IF THESE FUNDS ARE TRANSFERRED TO THAT PROJECT, THE FUNDING WILL JUST GO INTO THE PROJECT AND BE USED FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PARCEL. IT WOULDN'T BE EARMARKED FOR A TRAIL OR ANY OTHER PURPOSE. A WINDFALL LIKE THAT COULD EASILY BE USED TO EXPAND

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IT IS ALSO REMOTE, AS REMOTE AS YOU CAN GET IN ST. AUGUSTINE, THERE IS NO SURROUNDING COMMUNITY TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT SHORE LINE, POTENTIAL EROSION, TREE DAMAGE OR REMOVAL, SO FOR THE ENVIRONMENTALIST RECOMMENDING THE SHORE DRIVE TRAIL BE CANCEL AND HAD THE FUNDS USED FOR THE GENERAL OF OUR PROPERTY IT'S ODD THEY ARE SO WORRIED ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND EROSION AND DAMAGE THAT THEY ARE FINE WITH THESE FUNDS BEING USED TO BE PUT INTO A POT FOR A LARGER PROJECT A FEW MILES UP THE SHORELINE. IT'S WELL PAST TIME TO GET STARTED. THE SURVEY IS SUPPOSED TO CLOSE MARCH 1.

IF THIS PROJECT COMES BEFORE YOU IN MARCH, I HOPE AND TRUST THAT YU EEL DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE CITIZENS OF ST. FOR THE CITIZENS OF ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH.

>> GOOD MORNING, WELL, I LEARN ED SOMETHING THIS MORNING, I WOKE UP, ASKED MY WONDERFUL AMAZON ALEXA, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT SHORE SOUTH DRIVE TRAIL, SHE DID, SHE GAVE ME THE PROS AND CONS OF WHAT WAS GOING FORTH WITH THIS COMMUNITY.

I WAS AMAZED. I ALSO ASKED HER WHAT THE PERCENTAGE WAS OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH COMPARE TODAY THE POPULATION OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THAT'S 1.5%. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE STUFF THAT'S BEEN GOING ON HERE FOR 20 YEARS, I HAVEN'T BEEN PART OF IT FOR THE FULL 20 YEARS. IT'S BEEN BUILT ABOUT 60 YEARS AGO, PEOPLE HAVE LIVED IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR THOSE 60 YEARS, THE INDIVIDUALS WHO GREW UP THERE, WAS BORN THERE AND HAS LIVED THERE FOR THE FULL TIME. JUST BITS OF INFORMATION THAT I LEARNED. IN REGARDS TO THE GEN OF OUR ST. SEBASTIAN PARK, I BELIEVE THE COUNTY OWNS THAT. MY PERSONAL FEELING IS THAT THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT TO WITH THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. THEY BOUGHT IT, IT'S PART OF FUNDS THAT WERE RAISED BY THE RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, I'M SURE THERE WILL BE PROPONENTS, ENVIRONMENTALISTS THAT WILL OPPOSE WHAT'S GOING ON, THEY HAVE THAT OPTION THE SPEAK JUST LIKE I DO.

WHAT I ALSO LEARNED FROM MY AMAZING AMAZON ALEXA IS THAT IT BOILS DOWN TO BASICALLY THE SAFETY OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE IN THERE AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

MY PERSONAL OPINION AND THIS IS JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION, SAFETY IS -- YOU CAN ONLY BE SAFE IF YOU'RE AWARE OF YOUR SITUATION. PEOPLE FOR 60 SOME ODD YEARS WHO HAVE SUEDED ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH HAVE BEEN GOOD ABOUT USING THEIR PERSONAL AWARENESS, THEY HAVE STAYED OUT OF TROUBLE, I'M NOT SAYING THERE WILL BE A POSSIBLE TO GET HIT AT SOME POINT, IF THEY DO GET HIT, IT WILL BE DECIDED BY PROBABLY POLICE REPORTS AND LAWYERS. I HAPPEN TO BE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO LOST A SON STANDING ON A SIDEWALK. I FEEL THAT A SIDEWALK AS MUCH AS THAT WAS A COMPROMISE GIVES FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY. THAT IS MY FEELING, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS. I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THE [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S BEEN PUT OUT, I HAVE VOTED THREE TIMES ALREADY AND I HAVE INCLUDED MY DAUGHTER WHO LIVE INS SOUTH CAROLINA TO VOTE IF THAT, IT'S EASILY TAMPERED WITH AND I THINK IT'S UNFAIR AND I HOPE WE

COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> FRANCIS [INAUDIBLE], 2406 SHORE DRIVE.

CAN I GET THE MAPS SOMEHOW, CAN I SHUT THIS OR NOT? WE'RE GOOD? I'M PRESENTING SOME DOCUMENTS THAT YOU ALL UP THERE HAVE SEEN PROBABLY BECAUSE I HAVE SENT THEM TO YOU BUT THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE BEHIND ME HAS NOT. THIS IS A MAP OF ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH SUBDIVISION, THIS MAP I MARKED UP AND IT IS FROM THE QUICK CLAIM DEED THAT DESCRIBES

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IT INCLUDES THE EASEMENTS THAT ARE FOR EGRESS AND INGRESS, THEY ARE 60 FEET WIDE, TYPICALLY AT THE END OF MOST ROADS, THOSE ARE ALSO INCLUDED ON THIS QUICK CLAIM DEED THAT DESCRIBES IN DETAIL THE BEGINNING AND ALL POURS THROUGH IT TO THE END WHICH IS THE PARK AREA. IT TALKS ABOUT THE RESERVATION OF EASEMENT RIGHTS FOR EGRESS AND INGRESS OVER THE 60 FOOT STRIPS WHICH ARE MARKED IN THE ORANGE FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS ONLY, THOSE 60 FEET IS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. YOU'VE ALL SEEN THIS, IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT IS TO BE CONVEYED HERE IS THAT IT IS NOT TO BE BUILT UPON, IT IS FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY AND IS TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT IS NOT TO BE SOLD, LEASED OR MORTGAGED TO EVERY OWNER OF ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH SUBDIVISION, IT IS ENTITLED TO USE OF THIS PARK AND THAT IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ENFORCE THE RESTRICTIONS OF THIS PARK. THAT WAS A QUICK HIGHLIGHT OF THE DEED. THE DEED IS ALSO ATTACHED TO PARKS AND REC IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THEY HAVE THE PARK LISTED AS OWNERSHIP FOR ST. JHNS COUNTY PARK AND REC, I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT LEGALLY, IF THE DEED IS TO OUR ASSOCIATION AND PARK AND REC IS USING IT AS OWNERSHIP, AND JUST ANOTHER LITTLE FUN DOCUMENT, GOING BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF 1954 AND 55 WHEN THIS WAS PLATTED, IT WAS NEVER ACCEPTED BY -- THE IT WAS NEVER ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS IN 54 AND 55, IN FACT, IT WAS NEVER ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSIONERS UNTIL 1980 WHEN THE COMMISSIONER DECIDED TO TAKE ON THE RESPONSIBILITY.

>> YOU'RE OUT OF TIME, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY, NEXT? GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS CARRI-ANN, I LIVE AT IS 171 POMPANO ROAD, SOUTH, I WANTED TO BRING UP SOME NUMBERS THAT I FOUND INTERESTING. IN A 2/16/2021 WHEN THIS TRAIL WAS FIRST RAISED TO THE RECREATIONAL ADVISORY BOARD, THE MATCHING MONEY THAT WAS NEEDED FROM THE COUNTY WAS 840 THOUSAND DOLLARS. THIS IS 2021. A YEAR AND A HALF LATER, OCTOBER 18, 2022, IT WAS STILL 840 THOUSAND. BUT A YEAR AFTER THAT, DECEMBER, 2023, IT WAS NOW 1 MILLION 840 THOUSAND, SAME TRAIL.

THEN THIS BOARD VOTED TO LET THE FEDERAL GRANT EXPIRE AND SO THE TRAIL DIED BUT IT WAS BROUGHT BACK WITH THE IDEA OF POSSIBLY MOVING TO COMPROMISE IN APRIL OF 2025 AND AT THAT POINT WE WENT FROM 1.84 MILLION TO 1.874 MILLION, SO THAT'S 50 THOUSAND DOLLARS GONE, 100 THOUSAND DOLLARS GONE, THAT WAS IN APRIL, IN OCTOBER OF 2025, THERE'S ONLY 1.64 MILLION, SO THIS THING IS COSTING US A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY, IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR TEN YEARS BUT THEY STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR REAL IN 2021 AND THEN THE RECREATIONAL ADVISORY BOARD WAS MEETING, THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC SAID AT THAT TIME THEY HAD A GREAT DIFFICULTY IN GETTING A RESPONSE ON A A SURVEY AND GETTING PUBLIC INPUT IS CHALLENGING, AND FOUR OF THE BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE RECREATIONAL ADVISORY BOARD AT THAT POINT SAID THEY WANTED AN FISSIONAL SURVEY OF AUGUST STAOEN SOUTH RESIDENTS, THEY RECOMMENDED COMMUNICATION WITH THE RESIDENTS AS A CRUCIAL COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT. THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF IF THERE WAS A WAY TO CERTIFY THAT THE SURVEY RESPONDENTS WERE SOUTH RESIDENTS AND IS THE SHORE

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>> GOOD MORNING, CHRIS [INAUDIBLE], SHAMROCK ROAD SOUTH, LET'S LOOK AT THIS SURVEY THING. I WAS MADE AWARE THAT THE COUNTY WANTED TO KNOW THE WILL OF MY COMMUNITY AND MIGHT BASE THEIR DECISION BASED ON THE WILL OF MY COMMUNITY, A VOTE.

I EVEN SUBMITTED TO THREE COMMISSIONERS A PROPOSAL TO DO THIS FAIRLY USING AN ACCREDITED BALLOT ASSOCIATION AND I'M GOING SUBMIT THAT LATER, AGAIN, THEN I GET AN E-MAIL WITH SOMETHING ABOUT SHORE DRIVE PROJECT AND I READ THE E-MAIL AND IN THERE IS A TINY LITTLE LINK THAT SAYS COMMUNITY SURVEY SO I HOPE THAT UP, MY FRIEND BRUCE BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH ON THIS, HERE ARE THREE QUESTIONS, DO I WANT THE TRAIL, NO, AM I A SOUTH RESIDENT, YES, AND I AM A ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENT, YES, AND I PRESS SUBMIT, I HAVE NO CONFIRMATION REVAOET, I HAVE NO IDEA IF IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED OR VALID. THEN I GO TO MY MAC BOOK AND OPEN IT UP, HERE IT IS AGAIN, AND I VOTE, AND EACH TIME A PAGE OPENS, IT SAYS I HAVE ALREADY COMPLETED THE SURVEY SO I CAN'T DO IT AGAIN BUT THESE ARE DIFFERENT DEVICES, THEN I GO TO MY IPHONE, I DO THE SAME THING, I COULD GO TO MY WIFE GO TO HER MAC BOOK AND HER CELL PHONE AND I COULD PROBABLY GO TO THE LIBRARY AND VOTE AGAIN. I'M JUST ILLUSTRATING THE FACT THAT THIS IS A HIGHLY FLAWED APPROACH AND IT LEAVES THE COUNTY OPEN TO LEGAL EXPOSURE IF THE PEOPLE WOULD WANT THE TRAIL HAVE MORE VOTES, THAN THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT THE TRAIL WEBSINGER COULD LEGALLY CHALLENGE THAT. THE PEOPLE WHO WANT THE TRAIL COULD AND SHOULD LEGALLY CHALLENGE THAT. THAT WOULD BE ON YOU.

WHY ARE WE GOING THROUGH THIS INSANITY WITH A SURVEY THAT'S COUNTYWIDE BY THE WAY, IT'S FOR US, IT'S NOT FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY. I WOULD SAY TAKE THE MONEY, REALLOCATE IT TO THE SAN SEBASTIAN RIVER BOAT RAMP PROJECT, THAT IS, YES, UNTOUCHED GROUND. YOU CAN BUILD WITH ALL THE AMENITIES WITH HANDICAPPED ACCESS TO THE WATER, HANDICAPPED PARKING, EVERYTHING THAT'S NEEDED, THE COUNTY CAN WORK HARD AS I KNOW MOST OF YOU UP THERE, I THINK ALL OF YOU UP THERE HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSCIOUSNESS AND YOU WILL TAKE CARE TO MAKE SURE IT'S BUILT APPROPRIATE TO ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS BUT THAT WOULD BE FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY. THAT WOULD BE THE PLACE TO SPEND THE MONEY, THE COUNTY'S MONEY FOR ACCESS FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY TO OUR WATERFRONT, TO THE BOAT RAMPS AND THEN MY COMMUNITY COULD REMAIN IN PEACE AND IF WE WANT TO BUILD THINGS ON OUR OWN, WE'LL FIND WAYS O DO IT. I THINK HANDICAPPED ACCESS IS A GOOD IDEA BUT NOT THREE MILES OF IT, LET'S DO SOMETHING SENSIBLE AND SMART, THANK YOU

FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS INGRID JONES, I LIVE AT 138 HERCULES ROAD, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH FOR HAD 34* YEARS, I LIVER ONE HOUSE AWAY FROM SHORE DRIVE AND I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL VIEW FROM MY FRONT STEP OF THE PARK AND THE WATERFRONT, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE SHORE DRIVE TRAIL AND I THINK IT WILL BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DRIVE SHORE DRIVE ON A DAILY BASIS AND MY CONCERN IS FOR THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY WALKING ALONG THE ROAD. THERE ARE MANY BLIND CURVES ALONG THIS ROAD, I KNOW YOU HAVE HEARD FROM BOTH SIDES, ANTI-TRAIL, PRO TRAIL WEBSINGER HAVE A DIVIDED NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THE TRAIL WILL BRING IN AN INFLUX OF OUTSIDE VISITORS, VAIL POINT PARK IS TEN MINUTES FROM MY HOUSE, I DON'T GET IN MY CAR TO GO OVER THERE AND WALK, I THINK THIS WILL BE AN AMENITY FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ENJOY FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.

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THE LAND IS ALREADY DEVELOPED. I U■NDERSTAND THERS ANTING THE . I WOULD ALSO LIKED TO HAVE IT RUN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKWAY SO IT WOULD BE MORE OF A NATURE EXPERIENCE THAN WALKING ON A TRAIL BESIDE THE ROAD BUT I'M WILLING TO MAKE CONCESSIONS AND COMPROMISE TO GET THE PEOPLE OFF THE ROAD AND WALKING SAFELY ON A TRAIL. I BELIEVE THE NEW REVISED PLAN SHOULD BE APPROVED THAT IT IS A GOOD XROPZ FOR BOTH SIDES. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, CHERRY BADGER, SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE. ONCE AGAIN, WE FIND OURSELVES IN A LEGAL DISPUTES ON EASEMENTS WHICH IS -- IT'S A LOT GOING ON IN THIS COUNTY BECAUSE THERE'S NO ETHICS AND MAYBE ILLEGAL STUFF IS GOING ON AND NO ETHICS AT ALL. YOU HAVE STUFF SURVEYED THREE TIMES UNTIL IT COMES OUT THE WAY THE COUNTY WANTS IT, EVEN BEING RIGHT OR WRONG, THIS KIND OF STUFF IS GOING ON IN THIS COUNTY AND I SUGGEST THE FBI BE SOMEWHERE.

GOD BLESS AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT, ARE THERE ANY GENERAL

PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> HOW ARE YOU DOING? [INAUDIBLE]. FOLKS, I SENT THIS TO YOU LAST YEAR AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE IT ON THE AGENDA THIS YEAR. I WANT TO REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT IT IS THE CHAIRMAN AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WHO PUTS TOGETHER THE ORDINANCE.

I CANNOT SEE HOW ANYBODY WOULD WANT TO BE AGAINST A VAPE HAZMAT WASTE DISPOSAL FEE, $10 PER VAPE, I WANT TO TELL YOU, FOLKS, THREE TO FIVE THOUSAND VAPE A DAY IN THE TRASH, GOING IN THE DUMP, A BATTERY, THEY DON'T LET YOU TAKE THEM ON THE PLANE ANYMORE, JUST IMAGINE, THOSE THINGS ARE GOING IN THE DUMP. I GOT TO TELL YA, I'M EMBARRASSED TO SAY THIS BUT I AM PART OF THE WORST GENERATION, THE BABY BOOMERS, THE PEOPLE WHO COULD CARE LESS ABOUT ANYBODY. I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU ARE QUITE BABY BOOMERS BUT PLEASE DO SOMETHING BUZZ THESE ARE ACCUMULATING SOMEWHERE, CURSING THE LANDFILLS, NO ONE'S THERE PICKING THEM OUT. THAT -- BY THE WAY, AS YOU KNOW, I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY BY ANY MEANS, BUT I HAD THE HELP OF AI TO DO THIS ORDINANCE AND EVERY SINGLE THING ON THIS ORDINANCE IS COMMON SENSE AND IT'S THE PERSON THAT WANTS THE VAPE, THEY HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. THE SELLER WHO'S SELLING THE VAPE NEEDS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR BUSINESS SO PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ORDER MANS AND, YOU KNOW, IF THE CHAIRMAN DOESN'T WANT TO DOIT, YOU CAN ALWAYS SUGGEST ANOTHER COMMISSIONER TO THE CHAIR AND HAVE A DISCUSSION BECAUSE VAPE IN THE WASTE DISPOSAL IS A A SERIOUS DANGER AND I KNOW T SOMETIMES IT'S REALLY HARD TO THINK OF FUTURE,

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LET'S GET THIS VAPE THING UNDER CONTROL, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, COME ON UP.

GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, DAVE, 3702 SHORE DRIVE, LAST NIGHT I REACHED THE SEGMENT OF THE BOARD COMMISSIONERS MEETING REGARD THING THE EXTENSION OF THE SHORE DRIVE, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST MENTIONED SAFETY AS A MOTIVATOR FOR HIM, COMMISSIONER ARNOLD SPOKE TO SAFETY AND ACCESSIBILITY, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH MENTIONED TO LOOK AT WAYS TO SLOW VEHICLES DOWN. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR SAID I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY ISSUE AND COMMISSIONER MURPHY SAID IT'S SAFETY ISSUE, WE HAVE TO GET IT DONE. COMMISSIONER MURPHY ALSO EXPRESSED FRUSTRATION THERE WAS NO OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CHANGES IN THE PLAN. BEING THERE, IT WAS CLEAR TO ME A PATH OF A LESS INTRUSIVE FOOTPRINT CLOSE TORE THE ROAD, SOMETHING TO LOOK MORE LIKE A SIDEWALK WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED BECAUSE THE COUNTY PORG OF THE FUNDING WAS STILL THERE, WE APPROACHED CONVOYING MURPHY AND VOLUNTEERED TO WORK ON A COMPROMISE, COMMISSIONER MURPHY WAS INTERESTED BUT WANTED BALANCE IN THE EFFORTS, SO LAST MAY WE PRESENTED AN UPDATE TO THE ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION ON WHAT WE WERE WORKING ON.

MANY JUNE, COMMISSIONER MURPHY SPOKE TO SASHA, THE ORIGINAL PROJECT PLANS HAVE BEEN OVERHAULED, THE REVISION REDUCE IT IS FOOTPRINT IMPACT, THE WALKWAY IS AS NARROW AS YOU CAN MAKE IT AND STILL SATISFY ADA REQUIREMENTS, IT DOESN'T KOFSH OUT THE OPEN SPACE INS THE PARK, MOST TOF ROUTE IS CLOSE TO THE ROAD. SHORE DRIVE HAS A RIGHT OF WAY SO THE ROUTE MAY NOT BE DEEP INTO THE PARK, BEING NEAR THE ROAD MEANS IT'S EASIER FOR HANDICAPPED FOLK TOS USE IT. PLANS WILL SOON BE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD, WHEN YOU SEE IT, I HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER THE HISTORY AND HOW MUCH SOME SOLUTIONS ORIENTED RESIDENTS IN ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH HAVE PUSHED THE NEEDLE TO THE NEEDLE AND THAT SAFETY ISSUE STILL NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. THERE'S BEEN TALK OF AN UP OR DOWN VOTE.

THAT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE I DON'T THINK SAFETY IS AN UP OR DOWN ISSUE.

IF YOU HAVE A NEED, YOU ADDRESS IT. I WAS TWICE APPOINTED BY THE GOFRN -- GOVERNOR TO THE STATE'S ADVISORY COUNCIL, IF LIFE JACKET REGULATIONS WERE PUT TO AN UP OR DOWN VOTE, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY, NOBODY LIKES TO WEAR THEM.

THEY USE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS FOR INPUT ON THEIR PROGRAM AND IS HELPS THEM GREATLY IN SERVING THE PUBLIC. IF YOU NEED A PULSE FROM THE CITIZENS, I RECOMMEND AN IN-PERSON SURVEY, HOW OFTEN DO YOU WALK YOUR DOG, WHAT IS YOUR ROUTE, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU SPEND OUT THERE, WOULD YOU USE A PATH OR A SIDEWALK RATHER THAN THE ROAD, I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE MEANFINGERFUL THAN A SHOW OF HANDS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME?

THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, [INAUDIBLE] MILL CREEK ESTATES.

I WILL SAY FOR THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW IS A TURNING POINT OF WHAT WAY THE COUNTY WANTS TO GO WITH THE ELECTION SEASON COMING UP, WE'RE DEAD IN THE MIDDLE OF IT RIGHT NOW, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON NOW OR WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. YOU LOOK AT THE COMP PLAN THAT HAD BEEN SANDBAGGED FOR OVER A YEAR, OKAY, AND WRA -- WHERE IT'S AT NOW, IT'S STILL IN AN UP AND DOWN MAYBE WE'LL SEE WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT IT, ALRIGHT. WE ALSO HAVE FROM THAT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE BLUE RIBBON PROJECT WHICH IS COMING FROM THE STATE, SO THE COUNTY MIGHT FEEL THAT WE CAN'T STICK UP FOR

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JOHNS COUNTY WHICH BOTH OF THEM ARE ARE AROUND 12 THOUSAND ACRES EACH AND THEY WOULD FALL WITHIN THE BLUE RIBBON PROJECTS AND THERE WAS THIS FUNDING FROM THE STATE, SO AS REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE COUNTY, SIT BACK AND WAIT, WE NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE, ALRIGHT.

UNDERSTAND THAT. ALSO MY NEXT ISSUE IS LAST COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING, THERE WAS A PHONE CALL THAT RECEIVED 125 THOUSAND DOLLARS, OKAY.

YES, I BROUGHT UP THE WHOLE FACTS OF THE TRANSPARENCY, WHY DID IT GET LIKE THAT, WHY IT WAS AT THE VERY LAST MINUTE OR THE VERY LAST SECTION OF THE COMMISSIONERS' REPORTS OF, OH, BY THE WAY, I HOPE EVERYBODY READ THE E-MAIL I SENT OUT TO THEM THAT SHOWS THE DATE AND THE TIME AND THE QUOTES FROM LAST YEAR'S, OKAY. BECAUSE HERE IT IS RIGHT HERE, HERE'S THE AGENDA ITEM FROM LAST YEAR, THAT WAS WRITTEN UP, THE WHOLE 13, 14 PAGES FULL OF IT AND THEN IT COMES DOWN TO I GET A PHONE CALL, OH, BY THE WAY.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU'RE WATCHING TO SEE HOW THAT HAPPENS, THAT'S HOW THIS COUNTY COMMISSION IS TRANSFORMING. THESE OH BY THE WAYS, TRANSPARENCY, I GOT THIS.

THAT'S THE ISSUE I'M TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S THE ISSUE I HAVE AND I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. IT TOOK 13 PAGES AND THIS TOOK A PHONE CALL.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. HUNT. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> OKAY, NEXT, COME ON UP. >> SUE, 3502 SHORE DRIVE, ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, SHORE DRIVE TRAIL AGAIN. AND YOU HAVE HEARD BACK AND FORTH TO AD NAUSEAM ABOUT THIS, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO -- THERE WAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF I WROTE UP BUT I'M GOING TO PRETTY MUCH THROW IT ALL IN THE TRASH. THE PROBLEM IS THEY KEEP SAYING SAFETY, IT'S SAFETY, IT'S SAFETY, YES, WE DID WANT A SIDEWALK.

WHY, BECAUSE THE SIDEWALK IS A DIFFERENT COLOR, A SIDEWALK DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE ROAD, THERE'S DITCHES ON EACH SIDE OF SHORE DRIVE. THEY ARE MAKING THOSE DITCHES DEEPER SO HOW IS THE TRAIL GONG TO CHANGE THAT? YOU CAN'T PUT THE TRAIL NEXT TO THE ROAD WHEN YOU HAVE A FOUR FOOT DITCH RIGHT NEXT TO THE ROAD.

THE TRAIL HAS TO GO INTO THE GREEN WAY. MOW -- HOW WILL THE HANDICAPPED AND CHILDREN GET INTO THAT DITCH, THEY WILL HAVE TO WHEEL THIS WAY AND OUT THAT WAY. IT GOES ON AND ON, SHORE DRIVE IS THE IDENTITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE SOUTH AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. WE FEEL THIS IS OUR IDENTITY AND THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS, NOT THE FOUR PEOPLE THAT ELECTED THEMSELVES TO BE ON THIS COMPROMISED BOARD, THAT ISN'T A COMPROMISE, THAT'S A UNILATERAL DECISION. I DON'T THINK THIS TRAIL IS A GOOD IDEA, I DON'T THINK THAT BEING UNSAFE AND FEELING UNSAFE ARE TWO DIFFERENTLY DIFFERENT THINGS.

AS SOON AS YOU WAKE UP, YOUR RISK GOES UP, YOU HAVE TO BE AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS AT ALL TIMES. UNLESS YOU'RE IN A BOMB SHELTER, I DON'T SEE WHERE 70 YEARS, THERE HASN'T BEEN -- WHERE IS THE STAFF FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, DEPUTY DOG OR ANYBODY ABOUT ALL THE INCIDENTS AND ACCIDENTS ON SHORE DRIVE, 70 YEARS, WHERE ARE THEY? THEY'RE NOT THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HAPPENED. IS IT UNSAFE TO WALK, I GUESS IF YOU WALK DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AND YOU'RE NOT PAYING ANY ATTENTION TO ANYTHING, IT COULD HAPPEN ON THE WAL-MART PARKING LOT, I MEAN, IS THAT THE NEW STANDARD WE'RE GOING -- IF YOU FEEL UNSAFE, WE SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO MAKE YOU FEEL SAFE.

I MEAN, THAT'S LUNACY. I BELIEVE THE MONEY SHOULD BE -- THERE'S NO EMERGENCY HERE, IN CLOSING, I THINK THAT THE MONEY SHOULD MOVE OVER TO THE GENEVE PROJECT, THAT WAS 17 MILLION DOLLARS YOU SPENT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH NEEDS TO COME TOGETHER AND DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT THEY NEED, WHAT THEY WANT, WHAT'S REAL, TRAFFIC STUDY DIDN'T SUPPORT THIS, IF THEY THOUGHT IT WAS SO UNSAFE, THEY WOULD HAVE SLAPPED UP A

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STOP SIGN OR A SPEED BUMP. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY, NEXT.

COME ON UP. AND IF THERE IS ANYBODY ELSE WHO PLANS TO BE SPEAKING DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, IF YOU COULD COME ON UP AND BE READY TO GO, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

GOOD MORNING. >> MY NAME'S RODNEY DANGER FIELD, JUST KIDDING, BILL HENNESSEY, 5461 [INAUDIBLE] OVER IN THE SOUTH, SOUTH OF ST. AUGUSTINE IS WHAT I MEAN.

I'M HERE AGAIN ABOUT THE DECISION THAT WILL CLARK AND X SMITH MADE TO LET THE HOME OWNERS AND THE HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION PUT THEIR DRIVEWAY AND THE THEIR MAILBOX WHERE YOU LAUFRMG YOUR BOAT AND PARK YOUR TRAILER. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE MORONS CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA BUT ERIC CLARK SUPPOSEDLY IS IN GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND THIS WAS DONE IN 2015 AND I BET YOU 20 HOMES HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THAT AREA SINCE THEY MADE A DECISION, GROWTH MANAGEMENT DOESN'T MEAN YOU RUN PEOPLE OVER AND THAT'S ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS, AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET PAPERWORK ABOUT WHAT WENT ON AND YOU KNOW THEY JUST HAD THIS THING IN MINNESOTA WHERE THE GUY SHOT THE WOMAN, SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING OVER HERE IS THEY ARE GROOMING TERRORISTS AND HERE'S A PICTURE. THE WOMAN ALMOST RAN ME OVER.

IF I HAD GUNS, WELL, IF I HAD A A GUN, COULD I HAVE SHOT HER AND SAID, LOOK, SHE WAS TRYING TO RUN ME DOWN. THEIR DRIVEWAY IS MAYBE 30 FEET FROM THE BOAT RAMP.

WHAT IDIOT WITH LET THEM PUT THAT DRIVEWAY THERE AND THAT'S A HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION, ONE GUY WANTED TO PUT HIS DRIVEWAY UP THERE AND A BILLING DEPARTMENT SHOT HIM DOWN, HE SAID NO. WOULD YOU BUILD YOUR HOUSE RIGHT NEXT TO A BOAT RAMP? A COUNTY BOAT RAMP, YES OR MO? I DIDN'T SAY SMILE OR FROWN, YES OR NO? WHO WOULD, WOULD YOU, MR. MURPHY? WOULD YOU, WOULD ANYBODY OUT HERE BUILD THEIR HOUSE NEXT TO A BOAT RAMP, RAISE YOUR HAND. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A BOAT.

AND THEN THESE GUYS, THEY HATE MY GUTS, I TURNED THEM IN FOR CUTTING DOWN MANGROVES, THEY HAD TO PAY A 5 THOUSAND DOLLAR FINE, AND HE THOUGHT HE COULD GET AWAY WITH IT BUT THE PEOPLE FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION COUNTED THE NUMBER OF ROOTS AND HE STOPPED AT 17 THE FIRST TIME, BY THE TIME THEY GOT THE SECOND TIME, IT WAS UP TO 28, THESE PEOPLE AT THE END OF THE ROAD THINK THEY OWN IT AND YOU KNOW WHAT, IF YOU WOULD LOOK, IT IS BUTLER PARK NORTH. I BROUGHT THIS BACK HERE, JESSE STONE, HE'S TALKING TO THE MAYOR AND ALL THESE COUNCILMEN, HE GET IT IS DICTIONARY AND THROWS IT DOWN AT THEM, PUBLIC

AND SERVANT. >> THANK YOU, MR. HENNESSEY, THANK YOU.

>> SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET HURT. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME,

PLEASE COME ON UP. GOOD MORNING. >> ALRIGHT.

MY NAME IS JUSTIN MILLER, LIVER AT 515 [INAUDIBLE] B ROAD. I'M AT ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION, I'M HERE IN PERSONAL CAPACITY. WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF DIVISION TODAY AND TLAS LOT OF GROWING DIVISION WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY A AS THERE WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

THIS HAS PRIMARILY OCCURRED BECAUSE THESE KEEP RESULT INING THE COMMUNITY BEING PRESENTED WITH PLANS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE. THIS SHOULD HAVE RESULTED AS A GRASS ROOTERS EFFORT OF THE COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER FIGURING OUT WHAT THE PROBLEMS WERE AND THEN FINDING VARIOUS SOLUTIONS TO THOSE PROBLEMS. AT THAT POINT, THE COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE FORMED INTO GROUPS, DECIDED ON THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS BASED ON AVAILABLE COST IF THERE'S GRANTS, MONEY FROM THE COUNTY, ETC., THEN THOSE SEVERAL OPTIONS SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WITH THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY DOING THAT, NOT THE

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ONCE THAT IS DONE, AFTER EVERYTHING, THEN THEY GO TO THE COUNTY AS A GROUP ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY DECIDED. THAT DIDN'T OCCUR BEFORE, THAT DID NOT OCCUR NOW.

WE HAD A SMALL GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS PUT TOGETHER PLANS AND THEY TRIED HARD AND THEY WORKED HARD ON IT AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE NOT INCLUDED.

ONE BIG ISSUE IS THIS IS AN ASPHALT TRAIL THE SIZE OF A SMALL ROAD THAT I CAN DRIVE MY PRIUS ON, THAT'S THE PROBLEM. THERE WERE OTHER SOLUTIONS LIKE A PERMEABLE TRAIL THAT IS ADA COMPLIANT THAT HAS BEEN USED IN OTHER PLACES. THIS IS A MUCH BETTER OPTION, IT'S SUPPORTED BY A WIDER VARIETY OF THE COMMUNITY BASE ON THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT I HAVE TALKED TO. I ALSO HOSTED A SAFETY MEETING EARLIER LAST YEAR AT THE ST.

AUGUSTINE PUBLIC LIBRARY TO TRY TO START SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IT CANNOT WITH A WIDE VARIETY OF INTEREST, WE SHOULD HAVE HAD MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED, THEY WOULD HAVE COME UP WITH THINS.

WE TALKED TO THE GROUP BEFORE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE AGREED ON AS A COMPROMISE THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE IS A PERMEABLE ASPHALT TRAIL, THE ASPHALT TRAIL YOU'RE PROPOSING IN THERE IS UNSAFE

AND IT GROWS ALGAE AND NEEDS TO BE VACUUMED REGULARLY. >> IS THERE ANY OTHER GENERAL

PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS JOSIE DAWSON, I LIVE IN ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH, I WANT TO REFUTE SOME OF THE THINGS I HEARD TODAY AND GOUGH A QUICK RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD. THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION THAT GOES OUT FROM VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS, THERE'S STRONG OPINIONS ON BOTH SIDES BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, THERE'S FEW PEOPLE THAT MAKE COMMENT OR PARTICIPATE.

YOU CAN PROBABLY NUMBER THEM ON LESS THAN BOTH YOUR HANDS, FOR BOTH SIDES PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP AND ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN THESE PROCEEDINGS. THINGS LIKE COMMENTS ARE TOSSED AROUND LIKE QUICK CLAIM DEEDS WHICH BY THE WAY, IT'S A SWEEPER DOCUMENT, I CAN MAKE A QUICK DEED CLAIM ON ANYBODY'S HOME AND IT MEANS DIDDLY SQUAT UNLESS I HAVE THE DEED AND THE RIGHT TO IT SO YOU HAVE TO PROVE THE VIABILITY BEFORE YOU CAN KEEP ON WHIPPING THAT AROUND AND GETTING PEOPLE ALL BENT YOU UP ON THAT PARTICULAR SUBJECT.

SAYING THINGS LIKE IF YOU FALL ON YOUR HOUSE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT, YOUR SAFETY IS YOUR OWN FROM THE TIME YOU WAKE UP F YOU FALL IN YOUR OWN HOUSE THA,'S YOUR OWN HOUSE INSURANCE THAT GETS AFFECTED. IF YOU FALL ON THE PARK OR GET RUN OVER IN THE PARK, WHO COVERS THAT? I THINK THE SAFETY ISSUE IS VERY IMPORTANT AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. I ALSO THINK THAT WHEN YOU ARE CONSIDERING EVERYTHING, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL FACTS AND MAKE A POINT OF IT TO LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE MAKING COMMENTS INSTEAD OF THE HIGHLY REPETITIOUS FEW AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT IS ONLY GOING TO BE BEST FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT ALSO BEST FOR THE COUNTY BECAUSE IF ANYTHING HAPPENS, THAT'S GOING TO BE -- IT'S GOING TO BE A COUNTY ISSUEFINGER IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD ISSUE WEBSINGER EAR NOT GOING TO FLIP THE BILL. SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE TAXES WILL BE GOING UP, PLEASE REFUTE THE INFORMATION MORE STRONGLY AND VIGOROUSLY WHEN YOU SEE IT OR FIND IT ONLINE, YOU SEE THESE MISNOMERS ONLINE, PLEASE REFUTE IT SO WE CAN SHUT IT DOWN DEFINITIVELY, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ARGUMENT, CAN WE PLEASE, PLEASE KEEP IT TO THE FACTS, NOT PEOPLE'S OPINIONS, NOT IDEAS THAT ARE NOT PROVEN OR VIABLE BUT FACTS. THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO ME, BUT I'M JUST A RESIDENT, SO ANYWAY, THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER GENERAL

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>> GOOD MORNING. DAVID GANGY, 110 BEACH ROAD, ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH.

VERY DIVISIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB. I'M NOT SURE IF IT WILL EVER HEAL, EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR OPINION, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, THE LAST INDIVIDUAL WHO SPOKE TALKED ABOUT FACTS. THE ONLY FACT THAT I CAN DISCOVER IS NUMBER ONE, THAT THE COMMENT STUDY SAID THERE WAS NOT A PROBLEM AND THAT WAS DONE BY THE COUNTY.

THE ONLY OTHER FACT OR THESE QUASI FACTS I'M AWARE OF IS THE FACT THREE YEARS AGO, WE HAVE A LETTER SOMEWHERE FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT BASICALLY SAID IT IS UNDETERMINED WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY BUT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD WHATEVER WE WANT ON IT.

SO, THERE'S TWO PARTIAL FACTS THAT I HAVE, EVERYTHING ELSE IS OPINION, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE

TO SAY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUB

[1. Consider appointments to the Contractors Review Board (CRB).]

-- PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU, LET'S MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 THEN.

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, SHELBY REMER ROW, SENIOR ASSISTANT TO THE BOARD OF COUNT DI COMMISSIONERS. MY ITEM TODAY IS APPOINTMENT TOS THE CONTRACTORS REVIEW BOARD. CURRENTLY THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES DUE TO TYLER WATSON AND, THIS AD WAS POSTED FOR 60 DAY, PLEASE LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATION.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY, PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> OKAY, AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY, BACK TO US, SORRY,

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> MR. CHAIR F IT'S APPROPRIATE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. I'LL MOVE THE APPOINT KIMBERLY DELISA TO THE CONTRACTOR'S REVIEW BOARD AS A CITIZEN REPRESENTATIVE FOR A PARTIAL

TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE JANUARY 17, 2027. >> WE HAVE A MOTION.

>> SECOND. ER >> WE HAVE A SECOND.

LET'S VOTE. OKAY, THAT PASSES 5-0, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[2. Urban Flex PV, LLC Economic Development Incentive Request.]

>> GOOD MORNING, CHRISTINE VALLIERE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECT TORKTS I'M HERE TO PRESENT A BUSINESS INCENTIVE APPLICATION TO YOU FROM URBAN FLEX PV.

THIS IS A 23 THOUSAND 914 SQUARE FOOT PROJECT FOR SPECULATIVE FLEX WAREHOUSE SPACE, IT'S MANY THE MAINLAND AREA OF PANAVI DRIVE ON 100 HUD SON WAY, IT'S ESTIMATED TO BE COMPLETED BY FIRST QUART R OF NEXT YEAR, THE TOTAL CAPITAL INVESTMENT IS 3.3 MILLION.

THAT IS MAP OF THE LOCATION, THAT SMALL PURPLE DOT IS 100 HUD SON WAY.

IT'S LOCATED IN A PUD WHICH ALLOWS FOR INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING.

THIS PROJECT SCORES A TOTAL OF 4 POINTS IN THE MATRIX CONTAINED IN THE BUSINESS INCENTIVE ORDINANCE. THAT PROVIDES THEM ELIGIBILITY FOR REBATE OF 50 PER OF THEIR IMPACT FEES AND WATER SEWER CONNECTION FEES AND TWO YEARS OF AD VALOREM TAX REBATE AS WELL AS EXPEDITED PERMITTING. THE TOTAL VALUE OF THIS INCENTIVE WOULD BE 49 THOUSAND 362 DOLLARS. THAT REPRESENTS OVER A 20 YEAR PERIOD ABOUT 4.6% OF WHAT THE COUNTY WOULD RECEIVE IN TAXES AND FEES OVER THAT TIME. SO BEFORE YOU IS A CONSIDERATION OF A MOTION TO IF THE BOARD APPROVES THIS ITEM INSTRUCT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE AGREEMENT AND PLACE IT ON THE NEXT AVAILABLE AGENDA.

WITH THAT, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. ER

>> YES, I KNOW I SPOKE TO YOU BEFORE WHEN WE WERE BRIEFED ON THIS, IT IS ZONED ALREADY FOR

THIS? >> YES. >> AND I DID DRIVE BY IT AND IT

DOES HAVE -- IT'S PART OF A BIGGER COMMERCIAL AREA. >> CORRECT.

>> AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S OFF THE SIDE, SO, I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD AND I SUPPORT IT.

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>> OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, LET'S GO TO PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR

PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2. >> HI, CHARLIE HUNT, HILL CREEK ESTATES. I WONDERED IF YOU CUT OUT THIS INCENTIVE -- THE TAX CUTS AND EVERYTHING TO LURE BUSINESSES HERE, WILL IT STOP. IF YOU SAY, OKAY, IT'S ONLY 50 GRAND BUT WHY? IF IF YOU WANT TO PUT ALL THESE HOUSE INS HERE, EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE COME, EVERYBODY WANTS TO COME HERE TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY, YOU KNOW THAT.

THESE INCENTIVES, I WONDER IF YOU SAY, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING DO THE INCENTIVE, DO YOU WANT TO BUILD IT OR NOT. WELL, IF THEY DON'T, THEY'LL PROBABLY BE LOSE, THEY WILL LOSE IN THE END , THERE'S NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT. THEY WANT TO BE HERE IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, GREAT, BUT THESE INCENTIVES, THIS SEEMS LIKE YOU HEAR GALLON THE NEWS ABOUT ALL THE INCENTIVES THAT GO OUT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND IT HAPPENS DOWN HERE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S 50 GRAND OVER 20 YEARS, THE INCENTIVE TOS COME DOWN HERE THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THAT'S ALL IT IS IN ITSELF IS TO BE DOWN HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY BUT LURING MORE PEOPLE DOWN, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO. Y'ALL KNOW THAT. Y'ALL SIT THERE AND SEE ALL THE PROPOSALS THAT COME UP FOR BUSINESSES, NEW COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL STRUCTURES GOING IN HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY BUT WE STILL NEED TO LURE MORE DOWN HERE.

IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE -- I DON'T KNOW IF I'M MAKING SOMETHING THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY DOESN'T NEED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING. YOU KNOW THEY WANT TO COME BUT THIS IS JUST A DOG AND PONY SHOW OF DOING THIS SAYING YOU WANT TO HELP ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

YOU ALL KNOW AS WELL AS I DO IF YOU JUST WANT TO SIT THERE AND GO TAKE A PICTURE OF IT WHEN YOU'RE BREAKING DIRT IN THE GRAND OPENING, BUT INCENTIVES TO COME MOVE DOWN HERE, THERE'S

NO -- IT SHOULDN'T BE ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? >> [INAUDIBLE].

I DON'T REALLY HAVE AN OPINION FOR OR AGAINST BUT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY I MIGHT HAVE SLIPPED INTO A COMA A BIT BACK THERE, ARE THEY CREATING ANY JOBS? OKAY. OE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE VERY CAREFUL OF IS ON THE WAY TO DAY TONE NA BEACH, EXCUSE ME, STANFORD, THERE'S A SMALL CITY OVER THERE, SOMETHING MOUNTAIN, ANYWAY, THOSE COMMISSIONERS APPROVED SOMETHING OVER THERE AND THEN THEY STARTED GROWING MARIJUANA AND THE WHOLE CITY STINKS LIKE SKUNK BUG.

I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT. ANYWAYS, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WANT TO SAY TO BE CAUTIOUS OF, IT APPEARS THERE IS A 49 THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE AND THERE'S NOTHING STATED FOR THIS WAREHOUSE, BUT I'M SURE THERE MUST BE RULES AND REGULATIONS IN PLACE THAT COULD POSSIBLY PREVENT IT. AND ALSO TOO I WANT TO MENTION, SO YOU KNOW, THE GENTLEMAN'S RIGHT, IT IS REALLY SAD TO ME THAT THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE COUNTY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND WE'VE GOT TO GIVE ANYBODY TO COME HERE, BUT WHERE I DISAGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN IS THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED JOBS. THERE ARE NO JOBS HERE.

THERE'S NOTHING SUPPORT THESE EXPENSIVE HOMES AND THE HOMES REALLY AREN'T THAT EXPENSIVE, THREE, FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, SO YEAH, I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TO SAY I WOULD PROBABLY VOTE YES FOR HAD AND ONLY HOPE THAT THEY BRING SOME GOOD JOBS BECAUSE WHEN I DRIVE DOWN 95 AND I DON'T SEE ANY HIGH RISE INSURANCE COMPANIES OR BANKS OFF THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY AND THEN I DRIVE AROUND WHEN I'M DOING MY TAXI WORK AND I SEE DEVELOPMENT AFTER

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THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS AT THIS TIME ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> OKAY, BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> YES, I'LL MOVE A MOTION ON THIS BUT ALSO WHAT I WANTED TO LET MR. HUNT KNOW THE FLEX SPACE IS REALLY NEEDED IN THAT AREA. A LOT OF DIFFERENT GROUPS LIKE GYMNASTS AND THERE'S SCHOOLS OVER THERE, THEY NEED THAT SPACE TO SORT OF MAKE DIFFERENT THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THEY HIRE PEOPLE AND THEN WHEN THEY BUILD IT, THEY HIRE PEOPLE TO HELP BUILD IT SO I THOUGHT IT WAS NOT -- I NORMALLY VOTE THESE DOWN BUT I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THE

INCENTIVE WAS APPROPRIATE, SO, I'LL MOVE IT IF YOU WOULD LIKE. >> PLEASE.

>> OKAY. MOTION TO INSTRUCT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT AN EDGEBACKER ECONOMIC INSINT TEF AGREEMENT FOR URBAN FLEX PV AND PROPOSE THE INCENTIVE AGREEMENT FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE BOARD ON A REGULAR FUTURE SKENLBACKER SCHEDULED MEETING AGENDA.

>> AISLE SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, LET'S VOTE.

THAT PASSES 5-0, THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOING TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.

[3. Public Hearing * NZVAR 2025-25 189 Canal Blvd.]

COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >> I HAVE NO RECORD OF ANY E-MAILS OR ANY MEETINGS.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> NO E-MAILS OR STAFF MEETINGS

BUT I DID DRIVE BY AND I DID TAKE SOME PICTURES YESTERDAY. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> NO RECORD OF E-MAILS, PHONE

CALL OR MEETINGS. >> THANK YOU. >> I'M THE SAME, NO RECORD OF

E-MAILS OR ANYTHING AND NO MEETINGS. >> AND I DON'T HAVE ANY RECORD

OF ANYTHING EITHER. YOU'RE FREE TO BEGIN. >> ROSS FANTI, 189 CANAL BOULEVARD. WE RECREANTLY BUILT A NEW CONSTRUCTION HOME ON THIS PROPERTY. I'M NOT ONLY THE HOMEOWNER BUT ALSO THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE HOME. WHAT WE ARE REQUEST ISING TO EXTEND THE WALKWAY KNOWN AS THE DRIVEWAY I GUESS TECHNICALLY TO THE EDGE OF THE ROAD. THE MAIN REASON FOR THIS IS A SAFETY CONCERN FOR MYSELF SPECIFICALLY, MY DAUGHTER. THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS ON EITHER THE CANAL OR THE WILDERNESS SIDE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET HER SAFE ACCESS FROM THE FRONT ORIENTATION OF THE HOME TO THE SOUTH WILDERNESS WHERE IT'S NOT AS BUSY.

THAT'S ROAD VERSUS THE CANAL BOULEVARD WHERE AGAIN NO SIDEWALKS THERE, THE BUS STOP IS ALSO ON THE CORNER THERE. CURRENTLY DURING THE PRODUCTION OF THE HOME, WE EXTENDED THE WALKWAY AS FAR AS WE COULD TO THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN SOME TOF PHOTOS, THERE'S PROBABLY A 15 FOOT, MAYBE 20 FEET DISTANCE BETWEEN WHERE THE CURRENT WALKWAY ENDS AND THE EDGE OF THE ROAD, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO EXTEND THAT THROUGH THERE, SO WE HAVE

ACCESS FOR THAT. >> OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED? >> YEAH, TYLER, I DO HAVE A PICTURE SO EVERYONE CAN SEE. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED BECAUSE OF STAFF BEING CONCERNED BECAUSE THERE AREN'T SIDEWALKS, IT'S A VERY RURAL ROAD AND DOES TYLER HAVE THAT PICTURE? NOT THE ONE ON THE RIGHT BUT ON THE LEFT IS WHERE YOU SEE -- WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING ON DOING

FOR THE DITCH, ARE YOU GOING TO PUT A CULVERT? >> YEAH, SO IN ANTICIPATION, WE DID GET A PROPOSAL O DO A 15 INCH OR EXCUSE ME A 16 RADIUS INCH CULVERT WITH TWO ENDS, IF YOU LOOK -- WE WOULD HAVE TWO ENDS ON EACH SIDE OF THE SWAIL WITH THE CULVERT THA, DRAINAGE THERE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE CORNER, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE NEIGHBOR'S CULVERT IS AND THEN ON THE MIDDLE SECTION PAST THE SIGN, THAT IS WHERE THE DRAIN BASIN IS, SO THAT DRAIN IS SET TO HAVE IT ALL FLOW INTO THERE. DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, WE HAD THAT WHOLE SWAIL MAN CURED FOR

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THERE SO IT DOESN'T BLOCK THE DRAINAGE. >> YOU WOULD DO THE LITTLE

BRIDGE THERE? >> YES, YOU WOULD HAVE THE CULVERT AND THEN WE WOULD

EXTEND THE PAVED WALKWAY OVER THERE. >> AND THE ONLY THING IS NO ONE ELSE ON THE STREET EXCEPT FOR THE SHED PUT THE SAME THING TO THE ROAD.

WHEN A CAR PARKS THERE, IS THAT -- I KNOW THE ROAD'S THIN, ARE YOU EXPECTING TO PARK THERE OR

IS IT JUST FOR HER TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE STREET? >> SO, THE PRIMARY PURPOSE IS FOR ACCESS FOR MY DAUGHTER. NOW, UNDERSTANDING THE CONCERN AND FIRST I WANT TO THANK ERIC CLARK IN PLANING AND ZONING, HE SHARED SOME OF THE CONCERN AS FAR AS PARKING.

IF YOU PREFER AND AT THE RISK OF A HIGHER COST, BUT IF YOU PREFER ALMOST MORE OF A CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY FOR PARKING, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CONSIDERED BUT REALLY IDEALLY FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE, WE'D LIKE TO JUST EXTEND THE WALKWAY, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN TERMS OF PARKING, THAT WOULD BE MORE DIRECTED ON THE CANAL BOULEVARD SIDE WHERE THE CURRENT DRIVEWAY

IS ALREADY, TLA'S PLENTY OF SPACE FOR US. >> WELL THA,'S GOOD, AND I KNOW GREG'S LOOKING AT PUBLIC WORKS IS LOOKING FOR A SIDEWALK ON CANAL ROAD SO, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. BUT I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD LOVE THE COMMENT PRS THE OTHER

COMMISSIONERS, BUT THANK YOU SX, YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE -- >> YES, ABSOLUTELY, UNLESS --

>> I WAS GOING TO LET CHARLIE HUNT PAY FOR THAT, YEAH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE

BOARD, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENT

FROM THE BOARD? >> I WOULD SAY STAFF YESTERDAY -- ONE OF THE CONCERNS STAFF HAD WAS THAT YOU'RE GOING INTO THE COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY. IT IS A -- IT'S A CONCERN FOR ME BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AND SEE THAT EVERYBODY ON THAT STREET HAS A DRIVEWAY INTO THE COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY FOR ACCESS TO THE STREET, IT'S REALLY MAINTENANCE, ARE YOU STANDING HERE TODAY SAY HATING ANY MAINTENANCE FOR THAT IS GOING TO BE AT YOUR EXPENSE?

>> ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO MAINTAIN DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, WE CLEANED OUT THAT WHOLE SWAIL. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY BEFORE ISSUES ON GOOGLE MAPS, IT WAS UNTREATED, SO WE WENT AHEAD AND CLEANED THAT UP, WE MADE SURE WE HAD OUR ENGINEERS COME OUT TO MAKE SURE THE DRAINAGE WAS SLOWING PROPERLY AND ABSOLUTELY, YOU'RE RIGHT, JUST LIKE THE OTHER NEIGHBORS ALONG THE WILDERNESS SIDE, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NOT OUR PROPERT WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT, BOTH THE

CULVERT, THE WALKWAY AND THE LAWN TOO. >> IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT EVERY RESIDENT IN THE COUNTY DOES THAT HAS COUNTY PROPERTY RIGHT-OF-WAY INTO THEIR GREEN

SPACE. ER >> YOU DON'T OWN IT

[4. Public Hearing * CPA(SS) 2025-09 845 County Road 13A South.]

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>> MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2026, COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT

WITH A TEXT AMENDMENT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

THAT PASSES 5-0.E.4 >> WE'LL GO ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5 NOW.

[5. Citizen led presentation regarding a Public Private Partnership for Summer Haven.]

>> GOOD MORNING, I'M DENISE COCK RA*N HERE REPRESENTING THE SUMMER HAVEN RESILIENCY KOE CO-ALYSING, WE'RE A GRASS ROOTS ORGANIZATION DEDICATE TODAY THE RESTORATION, REVITALIZATION AND RESILIENCE SI OF THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER, THE SUMMER HAVEN AND SUMMER HOUSE BEACHES, AND

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HAPPENING TO OUR AREA. ( SHOWING VIDEO ). >> THANK YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE SUMMER HAVEN HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN A HIGHLY USED RECREATIONAL AREA FOR BEACH GOERS, BOATERS, ANGLERS, SWIMMING AND NATURE VIEWING, BUT CURRENTLY WE ARE HAVING SEVERE PROBLEMS WITH EROSION, SAND INFILTRATION AND FLOODING TO OUR AREA. OUR GROUP HAS PARTNER WITCHED THE FRIENDS OF SUMMER HAVEN RIVER, CITIZENS OF SUMMER HAVEN, SUMMER HOUSE, SUMMER HIEL ISLAND, AND JEAN JOHNSON ROAD TO ALL COME TOGETHER AND OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT TO ALL COME TOGETHER TO TRY TO DEVELOP A SOLUTION WHICH ADDRESSES EROSION AND FLOODING ISSUES WHICH ARE CURRENTLY AFFECTING OUR AREA. DUE O THE LAST OF OUR PROTECTIVE BEACH DUNES AND AN INSTILLING OF THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER, WE'RE EXPERIENCING SEVERE EROSION, FLOODING AND DEGRADED WATER QUALITY. WHICH IS DESTROYING OUR ECOSYSTEM AND OUR WILDLIFE HABITATS AND THIS IS A DAILY OCCURRENCE.

SAND INFILTRATION AND THE INLET AND SUMMER HAVEN BEACHES IS SPILLING OVER INTO THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY. WE FEEL THAT WE'RE AT A TIPPING POINT.

SO, OUR ORGANIZATION GOT ALL THE CITIZENS TOGETHER IN THE AREA TO TRY TO DEVELOP A PATHWAY TO A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO TRY TO SAVE THIS UNIQUE AND PRISTINE ENVIRONMENT.

AND WE HAVE COME UP WITH A PHASED APPROACH THAT ALIGNS IMMEDIATE STABILIZATION WITH LONG TERM RESTORATION AND RESILIENCY. WE BELIEVE OUR SITUATION IS DIRE. WE ARE EXPERIENCING FREQUENT FLOODING OF ROADWAYS IN NEIGHBORHOODS, WASH OVERS ON A1A AND SEVERE BROWSING EFFECTS TO THE BEACHES AND SAND INFILTRATION WHICH IS DESTROYING OUR WETLANDS. IN THE PAST, WE ONLY SAW THESE EFFECTS WHEN WE HAD A SEVERE WEATHER SYSTEM, NOW WE'RE SEEING THIS AS A FREQUENT OCCURRENCE, ALL IT TAKES IS A HIGH TIDE AND A FULL MOON OR A KING'S TIDE AND WE HAVE THESE AFFECTING OUR AREA. THESE PHOTOGRAPHS WERE TAKEN IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR. SOME OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS WERE TAKEN FROM A TWO DAY NOR'EASTER AND SOME WERE TAKEN FROM A HIGH TIDE -- FULL MOON WITH A KING'S TIDE, SO JUST TO DEMONSTRATE,

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COUNTY ROADWAY ARES FLOODING REGULARLY, THIS IS JEAN JOHNSON ROAD WHICH MANY OF OUR HOME OWNERS LIVE OFF OF, THE ROAD COMPLETELY FLOODS OUT AT A HIGH TIDE SEASON.

THIS PHOTOGRAPH IS SHOWING SUMMER HOUSE WHICH IS TO THE NORTH INLET THAT HAS HAD SUCH DEGRADATION HAPPEN OF THEIR SAND DUNES THAT A LOT OF THEIR FOUNDATIONS ARE NOW AT RISK.

AND WE HAVE SEVERE SAND INFILTRATION THAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER, IT'S CLOSED IT UP IN A COUPLE OF SPOTS TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE NORTH.

THIS IS NOW THE MOUTH OF THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER WHERE IT GOES INTO THE METANZIS INLET, THIS IS HELL LET SH MYTH PARK WHICH HAS A LAUNCH WHICH THEY LAUFRM THROUGH THE PARK OUT THROUGH THIS AREA TO GO OUT INTO THE INLET. YOU CAN ONLY NOW DO THAT AT EXTREME HIGH TIDES. THE SAND INFILTRATION HAS CLOSED OFF THAT PART OF THE RIVER. THE HELEN SCHMITT PARK WHICH IS A COUNTY CONSERVATION PARK IS FLOODING ON A REGULAR BASIS AND YOU CAN SEE THE DANGER OF BREACH BOO THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY WHICH IS GOING TO CAUSE SOME SEVERE EFFECTS IN TIS AREA TO THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY AND DHA THA* WILL END UP CAUSING THE STATE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO KEEP THAT OPEN AND DREDGED. CURRENTLY AFTER THE TWO DAY NOR'EASTER WE HAD, YOU CAN SEE HOW WE NOW HAVE A COMPLETELY FLATTENED BEACH, WE HAVE LOST ALL OF OUR PROTECTED DUNE BARRIERS WHICH PROTECTED HOMES, IT PROTECTED A1A, IT PROTECTED WETLANDS AND IT PROTECTED THE ENTIRE ENVIRONMENT OF THAT AREA. AND NOW WE HAVE BARELY A TWO FOOT RISE.

GOING ON FROM THE OCEAN TO THE INTERCOASTAL. NOW THE FRIENDS OF SUMMER HAVEN RIVER, THEY ARE PARTNERING CIVIC ORGANIZATION, THEY SPONSORED A STUDY TO ASSESS THE DAMAGE THAT'S HAPPENED TO OUR ECOSYSTEM OVER TIME AND THEY LOOKED AT -- THEY HAD AN ENGINEERING, COASTAL ENGINEERING COMPANY LOOK AT THE VIERM FROM 2005 TO ITS PRESENT CONDITION, I THINK MOST OF THE STATISTICS CAME FROM 2023. AND YOU CAN SEE OUR SALT MARSHES ACREAGE HAVE DIMINISHED BY 90% SINCE 2005, SO WE ARE GONE FROM 71.4 ACRES IN 2005 TO A MERE 7.25 ACRES IN 2023 AND THAT IS OUR NATURAL FISHERIES, THAT IS OUR HABITATS FOR OUR OYSTERING AREAS, FOR OUR SHORE BIRDS AND FOR MUCH OF THE WILDLIFE HABITAT IN OUR AREA.

OYSTER BEDS DECREASED BY 80% SINCE 2005. THIS PORTION OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY PRIDED THE MOST PLENTIFUL AND VIABLE OYSTERING IN THE COUNTY.

WE HAVE NOW GONE FROM 7.25 ACRES DOWN TO .3 ACRES OF OYSTERING.

IT'S ALMOST COMPLETELY DEVASTATED THAT INDUSTRY IN OUR AREA.

SAND INFILTRATION HAS INCREASED 41% SINCE 2005 WHERE WE HAD 5.68 ACRES, IT'S NOW INCREASED TO 87.73 ACRES. WE NOW FEEL THAT WE ARE AT A TIPPING POINT AND SOMETHING MUST BE DONE TO TRY TO PRESERVE THIS A AREA AND RESTORE IT FOR THE PROTECTION OF OUR ENVIRONMENT, PROTECTION OF OUR ROADWAY, PROTECTION OF OUR HOMES AND TO MAINTAIN THIS PRISTINE AREA. SO, OUR ORGANIZATION HIRED BECOME RAZAGA, THEY ARE A COASTAL ENGINEERING AND CONSULTING FIRM TO HELP US FIND SOME VIABLE SOLUTIONS THAT NOT ONLY ADREZ OUR IMMEDIATE NEEDS BUT HAVE SOME RESILIENCY NOR AREA.

THEY HELPED US DEVELOP A MULTIPHASE PLAN WHICH IS INTENDED TO BE -- TO ADDRESS IMMEDIATE NEEDS FOR STABILIZATION BUT IT HAS A A PERMANENT LONG TERM RESTORATION AND RESILIENCY SOLUTION, SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ABACKER BAND AID APPROACHES ANYMORE, WE WANT TO FIND SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO RESTORE AND FIX THIS AREA PERMANENTLY.

SO, JUST TO DEMONSTRATE THE PHASED PROGRAM WE'RE LOOKING A AT, PHASE 1 INVOLVES, LET'S

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WE'RE LOOKING AT MOVING 170 CUBIC YARDS FROM THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER AND CREATING BEACH DUNES AND RIVER BERM WITH THE PROPER ELEVATION AND CONTOURS THAT NOT ONLY PROTECT THE HOMES BUT ALSO PROTECT THE VERY FRAGILE MANGROVE HABITAT THAT'S BEHIND IT THAT IS THE AREA TO THE WEST. AND PHASE 2, WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT THE UPPER PART OF THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER, IT'S REALLY MIDPOINT TO THE NORTHERN END OF THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER, THAT WOULD INVOLVE EXCAVATE FRAMING THE MID TO THE NORTHERN PORTION TAKE THING SAND AGAIN USING IT TO BUILD -- REINFORCE THE SAND ON THE BEACH AND BUILD A BEACH DUNE.

WE WOULD BUILD A BERM ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE RIVER TO HOLD THE WATER IN PLACE AND HAVE A CONTINUED BEACH RENOURISHMENT PLAN WHERE WE HAVE STORAGE SAND THAT CAN BE EASILY MOVED BACK IN PLACE QUICKLY TO AVOID BREACHING SITUATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST WHERE IT TAKES YEARS TO ADDRESS THESE BREECHES. NOW TO DO THIS PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2 PLAN, WE HAVE ENGINEERING PLANS IN PLACE AND WE HAVE OPEN PERMITS WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO START ADDRESSING THIS IMMEDIATELY. AND PHASE 3, WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT PUTTING IN ENHANCED DUNE SUBPOENAS BECAUSE WE KNOW SAND IS NOT GOING TO BE THE SEWING.

WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE DOING IS PUTTING IN AN ENHANCED DUNE SYSTEM THAT HAS AN ARMORED DOOR AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THAT, THAT IS A POLY-- A POLYCARBONATE PILE WITCHING A CAP WHICH IS COVERED WITH A REGULAR SAND DUNE THAT'S VEGETATE AND HAD THAT WILL MUCH MORE LIKELY GIVE A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION TO KEEP SAND IN PLACE WITHOUT AFFECTING THE NATURAL WILDLIFE SUCH AS TURTLE NESTING AND BIRD NESTING IN THE AREA.

IF YOU WILL NOTE, THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN DONE FOR THE MAJORITY OF FLAGLER COUNTY'S COASTLINE WHICH WE'RE CONTIGUOUS WITH, WE ARE LOOKING AT A SIMILAR SITUATION THAT THEY HAVE ADOPTED TALL WAY DOWN THEIR SHORE. NOW, OUR ULTIMATE GOAL ISN'T JUST TO REBUILD THE DUNES AND REOPEN THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER, WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS HAVE A CREATION OF A RECREATIONAL CONSERVATION PUBLIC PARK WHICH ENCOMPASSES BOTH THE RIVER AND THE BEACHES OF THE SUMMER HAVEN. THIS PARK COULD BE AN EXTENSION OF THE CURRENT HELEN MELON SCHMITT PARK OR DESIGNATEESED AS AN INDEPENDENT PARK.

DESIGNS FOR THE PUBLIC PARK WOULD BE DETERMINED WITH PUBLIC INPUT AND WE WANTED TO HAVE -- TO MEET THE GOALS OF "PUBLIC ACCESS TO CONSERVATION LAND REQUIREMENTS" WHICH ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR FLORIDA FOREVER FUNDING AND RESILIENT FLORIDA FUNDING.

WE BELIEVE THIS WOULD BE A PERFECT FIT THAT WE WOULD MEET ALMOST ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR FLORIDA FOREVER FUNDING TO DEVELOP THIS INTO A PERMANENT PARK.

COMPLETION OF THIS PARK WOULD ENSURE WETLANDS AND WILDLIFE RESTORATION, IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT WOULD BECOME A RENEWED AREA FOR RECREATION WHICH CITIZENS AND VISITORS HAVE BEEN ENJOYING FOR ALMOST A CENTURY DOWN IN THAT AREA. OUR ADAPTATION PLAN IS INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED TO BE ACTIONABLE, SCALABLE AND ADAPTABLE OVER TIME.

WE HAVE NO EXPECTATION THAT THIS IS ALL GOING TO HAPPEN IN ONE FAIL SWOOP.

WE -- THE PROJECTS -- WE WOULD BE ALLOWING PROJECT TOS ADVANCE AS FUNDING, PERMITS AND PARTNERSHIPS ALIGN AND WE ARE LOOK FOR PUBLIC, PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, AS CITIZENS OF THIS AIR XWRA, -- AREA, WE ARE WILL BE TOCING TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND CONTRIBUTE TO

THESE GOALS. >> MY NAME IS BRIAN LOVE RIGHT THERE ON THE BEACH, WE HAVE LIVED IT AND SEEN IT, WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH IT. OUR COMMUNITY HAS STEPPED TOUP

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WE ALSO HELPED TO RETAIN BRIZAGA ENGINEERING GROUP. I AM A VERY SMALL PART OF A VERY LARGE GROUND SWELL HERE. THIS SOLUTION LOOKS TO NOT JUST OUR LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT THE FRONT DOOR BUT THIS VO*FMS SUMMER HOUSE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MARINE LAND, BUT AS A COMMUNITY, WE HAVE COME TOGETHER, WE ARE FORMING A GROUP TO MAINTAIN THIS ROAD IN PERPETUITY TO MAKE SURE THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE TO BEAR THAT RESPONSIBILITY.

WE ARE ALSO PLEDGING A CONTRIBUTION OF 227 THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO THE PHYSICAL EXCAVATION OF THE SOUTH END OF THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER. WE'RE ALSO PLEDGING ADDITIONAL 70 THOUSAND 700 DOLLARS TO MITIGATE THE DUNES THAT WILL GO IN FRON OF OUR HOMES.

THIS IS THE FIRST STEP TO GIVE US PROTECTION AND RESILIENCY TO RETURN OUR HOME TOS PREMATHEW CONDITIONS, WE LOST A ROAD THAT USED TO PROTECT OUR HOMES, WE'RE TAKING THE INITIATIVE AS HOME OWNERS TO PUT THAT PROTECTION BACK SO, WE'RE BEARING THE COST OF THAT.

USING THE ENHANCED MITIGATION PRACTICES, WE'LL SKIP YEARS OF GROINING, GIVING US A BREAK TO WHERE WE CAN LOOK TOWARDS THE NEXT PHASES, YOU KNOW, TO GET THE REINFORCED DUNE AND CREATE A MORE SUSTAINABLE, VIABLE COMMUNITY THAT HOPEFULLY MY KIDS WILL INHERIT.

PHASE 1 AND 2 NEEDS YOUR HELP. WE'RE LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY, NOT TO LEAN ON THE COUNTY, BUT TO CREATE A RELATIONSHIP THAT GROWS AND CREATES PUBLIC SPACES AND LONGER, PERMANENT, LASTING IMPROVEMENTS FOR NOT JUST OUR HOMES BUT THE COMMUNITY.

WE'RE ASKING FOR 250 THOUSAND DOLLARS TO START THE DIG. THIS IS NOT EVEN MATCHING FUNDS FROM WHAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS PUT TOGETHER. WE ARE LOOKING TO USE THOSE FUNDS TO RETAIN TAYLOR ENGINEERING TO STAMP AND MONITOR THE DIG, THEY HAVE THOSE PLANS READY, THIS WILL GIVE US THE EMERGENCY SAND WE NEEDED FOR THAT PHASE 1 TO GIVE US THE QUICKEST RESULTS TO GET US THROUGH STORM SEASON. PHASE 2 CONSTRUCTION IS THE EXCAVATION OF THE NORTH SUMMER HAVEN RIVER. GOOD FAITH ESTIMATES PUT THE COST OF THAT AT 350 THOUSAND DOLLARS. WE ARE ASKING THAT THE COUNTY GET GOOD BIDS FROM MULTIPLE CRACK TERSEST AND VALIDATE THAT CLAIM, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THAT MONEY RIGHT NOW. SHREK, FRIENDS OF HUM SUMMER HAVEN RIVER AND THE SUMMER CHAIRMEN COMMUNITY WANT TO HELP YOU FIND THOSE DOLLARS, WE DON'T WANT THE LEAN ON TAXPAYERS FOR THAT. LAST PHASE 3, THE ENHANCED DUNE SYSTEM, THE PERMITTING, MONITORING AND DESIGN OF THAT ENHANCED DUNE SYSTEM ISEST MALTESE TO COST FROM TAYLOR ENGINEERING 350 THOUSAND DOLLARS. THIS IS A GOOD FAITH ASK OF THE COUNTY TO PUT THOSE FUNDS UP TO PROTECT US, TO OFFSET SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS THAT WE'VE PUT OUT THERE AND LOST TO ENSURE THAT PHASE 1 AND 2 CONSTRUCTION REMAINS.

IF APPROVED WITH YOUR HELP AND THE PARTNERSHIP FROM THE COMMUNITY, FRIENDS OF SUMMER HAVEN RIVER AND SHREK, WE CAN START PHASE 1 AS SOON AS MARCH BECAUSE THOSE PLANS ARE ALREADY

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THIS WOULD SHARE THE BURDEN AND CREATE A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE COMMUNITY.

IT WOULD REOPEN THE LARGE PORTION OF THE RIVER AT A MINIMAL COST TO THE COUNTY FOR PUBLIC USE, PUBLIC ACCESS, IT WOULD IMPROVE THE BEACH UPFRONT AND HELP STABILIZE THE COMMUNITY WHILE MOVING AND LOOKING FOR OUTSIDE FUNDS. STARTING EARLIER WOULD HELP REENSURE PROTECTION FROM FUTURE STORMS, MINIMIZE IMPACT TO TURTLE NESTING SEASON AND CONSTRUCTION TECHNIQUES COULD BE USED TO OFFSET LEASE TERM HABITAT TO ENSURE WE DON'T RUN INTO SEASON, IF WE WAIT LONGER AND THOSE DUNES DON'TBACKER DON'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO ESTABLISH, EFFORTS COULD BE WASTE AND HAD WE WANT TO MINIMIZE THAT IMPACT AND GET THE MOST BANG NOT JUST FOR OUR BUCK BUT THE COUNTY'S. FURTHER DISCUSSION WILL BE NEEDED AS FAR AS THE MANAGED RETREAT, THE DLP LAWSUIT AGAINST THE COUNTY, THE SOUTH BEACH ENHANCED DUNE SYSTEM TO FINALIZE SOME OF THE CURRENT STATUS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE AN ACTIONABLE PLAN THAT IS ADJUSTABLE, THAT CAN WORK THROUGH THOSE BARRIERS WITH THE COUNTY TO ESTABLISH IT. THE ENHANCED DUNES AND SYSTEM THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR INCLUDES A 24 FOOT POLYCARBONATE PILE WITCHING A WOOD TOP CAP THAT IS TO REMAIN SUBMERGED BELOW SAND.

THIS WILL GIVE US A 30 YEAR CATASTROPHIC STORM EVENT RESILIENCY TO MAKE SURE NOT JUST OUR HOMES BUT THE MANGROVE HABITAT, THE PARK AND THE RIVER ARE PROTECTED BEHIND US ENSURING THAT PHASE 1 AND 2 CONSTRUCTION LAST, IT HOLDS UP. THE REINFORCED DUNE SYSTEM ALONG THE RIVERSIDE THAT WILL BE SOUGHT AFTER CREATES HABITAT, PROTECTS THE RIVER AND OPENS THAT AREA ENSURING THAT THE BEACH NEVER BREECHES AGAIN COMING IN AND FILLING THAT RIVER TO MAKE SURE OUR KIDS AND THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE GOOD PEOPLE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY GET TO ENJOY THAT FOR CENTURIES TO COME. WE'D LIKE THE LOOK AT A COUNTY PARK THAT TAKES OPENER SHIP OF THAT PARK. WE WILL HELP EXPLORE THOSE OPTIONS. WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH ACCEPT TOR LEAK AND CONGRESSMAN FINE THE OPTION OF TURNING THOSE LANDS OVER TO THE STATE AND THE COUNTY LEASING IT BACK AND TAKING CARE OF THE MANAGEMENT OF THAT PARK. THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR FEDERAL FUNDS TO BE ESTABLISHED AND HELP PROTECT THAT PARK SYSTEM IN PERPETUITY.

THE MINIMAL FACILITIES ON THE PARK WOULD INVOLVE A POSSIBLE WALK OVER FROM THE ESTUARY CROSSING THE RIVER TO THE BEACH SYSTEM, LIMITED PAVED PARKING OR IMPERVIOUS PARKING TO HELP STRUCTURE THE AREA TO REDUCE THE IMPACT TO THE NATURAL RESOURCES THERE.

A KAYAK LAUNCH, BIKE RAMPS, ADA COMPLIANT AREAS, ALSO A POTENTIAL TROLL LEEY SYSTEM, WE'RE LOOKING TO GAIN AS MUCH FEDERAL AND OUTSIDE DOLLARS TO SHARE THE BURDEN OF A 43 ACRE PRISTINE E IMMACULATE PARK THAT'S GEARED TOWARDS THE RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

WE ARE ALSO EXPLORING AND WITH THE HELP OF BRAZAGA ENGINEERING APPLIED FOR A U.S. ARMY CORP.

ENGINEERING FEASIBILITY STUDY TO EXPLORE A TOTAL REPAIR AND EVALUATION OF THE MATANZAS INLET AND ITS EFFECTS NORTH AND SOUTH, SUMMER HOUSE HAS SIGNIFICANT EROSION, THE FEDERAL PARK AT THE MATANZAS FORT HAS SIGNIFICANT EROSION PROBLEMS, ALL THE WAY SOUTH TO MARINE LAND HAS SIGNIFICANT ISSUES AFTER HINGED BY THAT INLET.

OUR MULTIYEAR APPROACH GIVES US A HOLISTIC FIX TO THE ENTIRE ISSUE.

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>> WE WOULD LIKE THE GIVE A THANK YOU TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION FOR YOUR REPEATED LETTER OF INTENT THAT YOU HAVE SENT TO THE ARMY CORPSES OF ENGINEER SUPPORTING THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THE ENTIRE MATANZAS INLET BASIN.

WE REALIZE OWL THE PROBLEMS WE'RE HAVING IN THIS AREA IS STEMMING FROM THE MATANZAS INLET, WHEN THAT INTERCOASTAL WAS DUG OUT IN THE 1930'S AND CHANGED THE WATERWAY, SO IT HAS TO DO A LOOP AROUND AND DO THIS RIDICULOUS 90 DEGREE TERM AGAINST THE SOUTHERN SHORE OF THE INLET WHICH HAPPENS TO HIT RIGHT INTO THE BULKHEADS AND HAS DUG A 30 FOOT TRENCH UNDERNEATH THEIR BULKHEADS, SO THAT IS IN EFFECT, THE INSTILLING OF SAND THAT'S HAPPEN INED THE MATANZAS INLET, IT'S COMING OFF OF CRESCENT BEACH SAND SO ALL THE BEACH RESTORATION THAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT AREA IS GETTING SWEPT DOWN TO FILL UP THE INLET.

IT'S FILLING UP SUMMER HAVEN RIVER AND STARTING TO FILL UP THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY, THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY LOOK AT A FULL LONG TERM SOLUTION IS THROUGH THIS ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER FEASIBILITY STUDY AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT SO MUCH TO THAT EFFECT FOR KEEPING TO SEND THAT LETTER OF INTENT. WE'VE ALSO GOTTEN SUPPORT FROM CONGRESSMAN RANDY FINE AND FLORIDA SENATOR TOM LEAK ARE ALSO OUT THERE TRYING TO THE ADVOCATE FOR US TO MAKE THIS PLAN -- IT HAS BEEN APPROVED BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN APPROPRIATED YET, SO THAT'S THE STEP WE NEED TO GET TOWARDS IS THE PRESSURE TO GET IT APPROPRIATE SOD WE CAN GET A FULL SOLUTION TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT AREA. SO, WE REALLY FEEL THAT OUR PLAN HAS A A LOT OF BENEFITS TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS GOING TO HELP BOTH THE CITIZENS AND THE VISITORS TO THIS VERY VALUABLE AREA.

IT'S GOING THE MEAN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW 43 ACRE BEACH AND RIVER RECREATIONAL FACILITY AND IT WILL BE AT MINIMAL COST TO THE COUNTY. PAST PROJECTS THAT WERE DONE, THE PROJECT THAT WAS DONE IN 2021 WHICH OPENED UP THE SUMMER CHAIRMEN RIVER, WE SPENT 1.4 MILLION DOLLARS AND IT WAS DONE TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE AND NOT DONE PROPERLY AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HALF OF THAT AMOUNT TO DO THE PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2 PLAN WHICH WE FEEL COULD BE DONE MUCH MORE EFFECTIVELY DONE PROPERLY AND DONE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY. WE BELIEVE THE PLAN WILL HELP IN RESTORING THE NATURAL ECOSYSTEM FOR FISH, SHELL FISH, SEA HURTLES, THE RESTORATION OF WETLANDS RIVER AND ESTUARY AND IS WILL RESTORE THE WATER QUALITY TO THE AREA AND HABITATS THAT IT SUPPORTS.

THIS PLAN WOULD ALSO HELP RESTORE THE NATURAL BARRIER SYSTEM FOR FLOODING AND E EROSION AT THE BEACHES AND THE RIVER AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. IT WOULD HELP TO PROTECT FLOODING TOG A1A ROADWAYS AND RESIDENTS ON SUMMER HAVEN AND SUMMER HOUSE.

MOSTLY IT WOULD RETURN THE SUMMER AVENGER TO ITS NATURAL BEAUTY FOR WHICH THE PEOPLE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAVE ENJOYED FOR THE LAST 100 YEARS, THE COMPLETION OF THIS PLAN WOULD ALLEVIATION ACCESS ISSUES FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN SOUTH HAVEN AND GIVE THEM A PERMANENT

SOLUTION AND PUT THOSE PROBLEMS TO REST. >> TODAY WE'RE HERE ASKING AS A GROUND SWELL EFFORT THAT INVOLVES A LARGE COMMUNITY, A LARGE GROUP, A LARGE GROUP OF PROFESSIONALS INCLUDING YOUR OWN COASTAL DEPARTMENT, WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD TO SUPPORT AND ENDORSE THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER ADAPTATION PLAN PHASED APPROACH TO COASTAL RESILIENCY, PROVIDE DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE TO THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT TO HELP US KEEP THE MANAGED RETREAT TOWARDS THE NORTH END OF THE COMMUNITY. IF WE HAVE MANAGED RETREAT PURCHASE INS THE SOUTH END WEBSINGER EEL HAVE A HARD TIME BRIDGING THAT GAP FOR EASEMENT AND POSSIBLE REMITTANCE IN THE FUTURE CREATING WEAKER AREAS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

ENGAGE WITH COASTAL MANAGEMENT TO VALIDATE THESE CONCEPTS, TO GO GET THE BIDS AND JUSTIFY THIS PRICING TO RATTAY E-- RETAIN THE ENGINEER AND IS GET THIS RIVER DUG AND RESTORE IT TO ITS PRISTINE HABITAT. IT WILL HELP ALSO RENOURISH THE BEACH, PROTECT THE HOMES, PROTECT THE MAJOR EVACUATION ROUTES AND RETURN THE HABITAT OF THE RIVER TO THE COMMUNITY.

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>> WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR IS A TRUE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

WE HAVE NO EXPECTATIONS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO SOLVE ALL THESE PROBLEMS FOR US.

WE HAVE NO EXPECTATIONS YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR SOLVING ALL THESE PROBLEMS BUT WE DO BELIEVE THAT THROUGH PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE COUNTY, WITH THE STATE AND WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE CAN GET THIS DONE.

WE FEEL THIS IS A VERY VIABLE PLAN AND WE'D LIKE YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU, EXCELLENT JOB,

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, I HAVE BEEN DOWN THERE SEVERAL TIME AND IS HAVE LEARNED ABOUT THIS ISSUE OVER THE YEARS AND OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, WE HEARD A LOT OF INFORMATION, IT'S A VERY, VERY COMPLEX SITUATION WITH A LOT OF HISTORY TO GO ALONG WITH THE COMPLEXITY SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE IT AS SIMPLE AS I CAN TO THE MEMBER OF THIS BOARD, WE'VE GOT TO GET THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER FLOWING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND I THINK THAT'S A CRITICAL NEED, IT'S IT SOMETHING WE CAN DO RELATIVELY QUICKLY.

I WANT TO COMMEND THE COMMUNITY FOR WORKING WITH OUR STAFF BECAUSE WE HAD THAT 100 MILLION DOLLAR ESTIMATE TO REPAIR THE ENTIRE AREA AND WE ALL JUST HUNG OUR HEADS AND YOU GUYS HAVE WORKED VERY HARD WITH OUR STAFF, WITH DAMON TO COME BACK TO US BITE SIZE, WITH SOMETHING UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS SO, A HECK OF A JOB GETTING THAT DONE FROM 100 MILLION DOLLARS TO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. MY THOUGHT IS WE'VE GOT TO FILTER THIS THROUGH STAFF BECAUSE IT'S SO COMPLEX, WE NEED PROFESSIONALS WITH THEIR EYE ON THE BALL, WE NEED THE MAKE SURE WE'RE DOTTING ALL THE I'S AND CROSSING ALL THE T'S IN TERM OF WHAT THE PERMIT REQUIRES US TO DO, SO MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WE AT THE NEXT COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING, WE HAVE DR. JAMANCO GIVE US A PRESENTATION WITH SOME NUMBERS WE CAN RELY ON, SOME SOLID NUMBER AND IS THEN SOME POTENTIAL FUNDING OPTION AND IS THEN AT THAT TIME WE COULD THEN FUND IT AT THE NEXT COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING INSTEAD OF DOING THE APPROPRIATION TODAY, WE FILTER THIS THROUGH STAFF BUT THE LONG STORY SHORT IS WE HAVE TO GET THE SUMMER RIVER HAVEN FLOWING AND I THINK WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT VERY QUICKLY WITH THE HELP OF

DR. JAMENCO. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> SO, I WISH I WERE MAGIC, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO RESTORE THIS, THE BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS THE OEX, THE WEATHER, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE RIVER OPEN, BUT AS IN RESTORING IT AND MAKING IT EXACTLY THE WAY IT WAS, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU WANT SO BAD BUT IT'S HARD TO SEE AT THIS POINT AND I DON'T WANT OUR TAXPAYER TO THROW MONEY INTO THE OCEAN, BUT YOU'RE MAKING SANDS AND I AGREE WITH DR. JAMENCO TO LOOK AT THIS, BUT IT'S JUST -- I HOPE THALS WE LOOK AT AN OCEANIC PERSON AS WELL AS A WEATHER PERSON TO SEE WHAT OUR FUTURE IS THERE TOO.

IT'S SO MUCH AND I APPLAUD YOU GUYS A UL GETTING TOGETHER, I LOVE THAT YOU WANT TO DIG IT AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ALL THE WAY FORWARD BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD FIRST STEP.

ER >> MAY I RESPOND TO THAT? >> SURE.

LET'S ASK THE CHAIR. >> LET ME JUST FINISH, AND I LOVE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS COME TOGETHER AND I DON'T WANT TO FIGHT, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A SMALL BITE AT A TIME

THA,'S MY COMMENT, THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU TO BOTH OF YOU. I KNOW I WAS JUST RECENTLY OUT AND TOURED -- DID A TOUR AGAIN AND I'M SO IMPRESSED THAT CLEARLY WE'VE KNOWN FOR MANY YEARS THIS IS A VERY BIG CHALLENGE AND I REALLY COMMEND THE COMMUNITY FOR NOT JUST SAYING MAY WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM BUT THIS IS WHAT WE FEEL THAT WE CAN DO.

SO I THINK THAT'S GREAT, BUT I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST THAT I WOULD LOVE O THE HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM STAFF AND DR. JAMENCO AND SEE REALISTICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BEFORE WE GO FORWARD WITH ANY MONEY AT THIS TIME, BUT AGAIN I COMMEND YOU BOTH,

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>> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> THANK YOU, AGAIN, I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID, IT'S REALLY COMMENDABLE TO SEE A COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER AND TRY TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR A PROJECT THAT WOULD HAVE GREAT PUBLIC BENEFIT FOR EVERYBODY, SO AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THAT.

I AM ABSOLUTELY IN SUPPORT OF WHAT I THINK COMMISSIONER TAYLOR AND COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST HAVE SUGGESTED, RUNNING IT THROUGH STAFF. IS TWO WEEKS ENOUGH TIME FOR

YOU, MR. JAMENCO. >> WE WOULD HAVE TO -- WE HAVE CONTINUING CONTRACTS AND I HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR PROCUREMENT RULES, WE HAVE TO PUT IT OUT THERE, TWO WEEKS IS PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH TIME TO GET BACK THE PROPOSALS, AS YOU CAN SEE, BRIAN HAS REACHED OUT TO TAYLOR AND THEY HAVE TWO WEEKS TO GET THEIR PROPOSAL, I WOULD SAY THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH I WOULD

HAVE THOSE IN HAND. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER,

ANYTHING ELSE? >> THAT'S ALL. >> YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF ADD TO THIS. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT THIS, WHEN I FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT IT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE WERE LOOKING AT 100 MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT AND YOU GUYS HAVE -- IN A DISJOINTED COMMUNITY, EVERYBODY WAS GOING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, WITHIN THIS LAST YEAR, YOU GUYS HAVE PULLED A COALITION TOGETHER, YOU'VE ENGAGED YOUR OWN MONEY, YOU HAVE WORKED SO HARD TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO FIX YOUR HOME AND I'M SO APPRECIATIVE OF IT. I HEAR WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE SAYING AND I DON'T -- AND I AGREE. I WOULD CAUTION THAT WE ALSO HAVE A STORM SEASON COMING UP SO I WOULDN'T WANT THE DELAY IT TOO MUCH, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO GET TO DIRECT STAFF WITH CONSENSUS TO DIRECT STAFF TO DR. JOE TO LOOK INTO THIS AND BRING BACK A PROPOSAL NOT ONLY FOR THE PLAN BUT ALSO FOR FUNDING FOR THE PLAN, SO I WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

WE SEEM TO HAVE CONSENSUS. THAT'S ALL WE NEED, SO GREAT PRESENTATION.

GREAT JOB, I'M TELLING YOU, WHEN I WAS WATCHING THE VIDEO, I WASN'T CRYING, BUT I'M SURE SOMEBODY WAS. BUT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD SAY MOTHER NATURE CAUSED ALL THIS, WELL, THEN, I COULD EASILY DISMISS IT BUT MOTHER NATURE DIDN'T, WE DID SO, WE NEED TO WORK HARD TO TRY TO FIK IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR

PRESENTATION. >> WE'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK COASTAL ENGINEERING AND MANAGEMENT, THEY'VE BEEN SO HELPFUL TO US, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR ADVICE AND HELP.

>> AND IT'S FUNNY WEBSINGER TRULY WANT TO BE THE COUNTY OF YES AND YOU GUYS HAVE REALLY LAID A FOUNDATION FOR US TO FOLLOW IN WAYS THAT SAVES OUR CONSTITUENTS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BY THE WORK YOU'RE DOING, THANK YOU SO MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT, GREAT JOB.

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YOU READY? COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, I WANT TO >> SAY THANK YOU TO OUR AMAZING SPONSORS AND OUR EVEN MORE AMAZING STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK THEY'VE PUT INTO ST. JOHNS COUNTY LEGISLATIVE DAY.

MOST OF US ARE HEADED HERE TO TALLAHASSEE TO SHOW ALL OF OUR DELEGATION HOW AMAZING THIS INCREDIBLE COMMUNITY AND COUNTY ARE, SO THANK YOU AGAIN TO STAFF, I THINK IT'S GOING TOR

AN AMAZING TRIP. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, YOU HAVE

THE FLOOR. >> OKAY. I WANTED TO GET GREG KALD -- CALDWELL UP HERE, WE HAVE THE YELLOW ARROW, IT HAS CAUSED ACCIDENTS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THE LEFT TURN INTO SAW GRASS, WE'VE HAD ACCIDENTS AND EVEN DEATHS.

THE AREA HAS A SURVEY, PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED A PETITION AND WE HAVE BEEN -- I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO GREG ABOUT IT AND LOOKED INTO IT AND THEN I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT SOMEONE JUST TEXT ME, THERE'S FLAGS UP AND DOWN A1A FROM MI CLA R TO SAW GRASS, THIS SCOOP IS WE'RE

WIDENING A1A, COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT TOO. >> SURE, GREG, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTBACKER COUNTY, TPC BOULEVARD ARK 1A, THIS IS A CONTROLLED INTERSECTION BY THE DOT, THE DOT CONDUCTED A STUDY OF A1A IN THE NORTHEAST PART OF

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AT THAT TIME THE RECOMMENDATION WAS NOT TO MAKE CHANGES SPECIFICALLY TAT TPC BOULEVARD AND A1A INTERSECTION WEBSINGER HAVE SINCEBACKER SIBS REACHED OUT TO THEM AND MADE THEM AWARE OF THE RECENT INCIDENT THAT IS OCCURRED AT THIS INTERSECTION, THEY SAID THEY WILL GO BACK OUT THERE, REVIEW THE STUDY AS WELL AS THE ON-SITE TO LOOK AT THE INTERSECTION AGAIN, LOOK AT THE GEOMETRY. AS WELL AS IN 2028, THE DOT HAS IT IN THEIR WORK PROGRAM TO RESURFACE A1A IN THIS AREA. ALONG WITH THAT RESURFACING, THEY ARE LOOKING AT INTERSECTION IMPRAO*UMENT AND IS ENHANCEMENTS. YOU ARE MOST LIKELY SEE THING FLAGS OF GET THING SURVEY, GETTING THE INFORMATION FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ALL CONCEPTUAL BUT NOW THEY'RE MOVING TOWARDS THE DESIGNING COMPONENTS IN PREPARATION OF 2028 FOR THE RESURFACING AS WELL AS OTHER IMPROVEMENT AND IS

INTERSECTIONS ALONG THAT ENTIRE CORRIDOR. >> YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> ARE THEY WIDENING IT? >> THEY ARE NOT ADDING LANES. >> THANK YOU, THEY'RE NOT

ADDING LANES TLA,'S ON THE RECORD. >> THEY ARE DOING EFFICIENT IMPROVEMENTS OF THE INTERSECTIONS WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TRAFFIC BUT MY

UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S NO LANE ADDITION. >> OKAY, BECAUSE IT'S ALL GOING

CRAZY ON NEXT DOOR. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THANK YOU, AND I HAD ONE LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY I HAVE GOTTEN CARDS AND SYMPATHY CARDS FROM ALL OVER AND I THANK EVERYONE OUT THERE. IT MEANS A LOT, FLOWERS, I HAVE SO MANY FLOWERS, IT MAKES ME REALLY HAPPY THAT I HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT CARED ABOUT MY HUSBAND AND I'M GETTING THANK YOU NOTES OUT BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A WHILE, ANYWAY, I WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MANY DIFFERENT SYMPATHY CARDS THERE ARE AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL AND

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, I HAVE A FEW TENSES, THE FIRST OF WHICH IS WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING THIS YEAR ON SPRING BREAK, IT'S INTERESTING AFTER FOUR YEARS IN THESE MEETINGS WHERE SPRING BREAK DID NOT CONFLICT WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSION MEET, WE HAVE TWO YEARS BACK TO BACK NOW, SO I'M GOING TO REQUEST WE MOVE THE MARCH 17 MEETING TO MARCH 24, SAME AGENDA, WE'LL DO THE SAME BUSINESS BUT WE SIMPLY MOVER IT BACK SO AS NOT TO CONFLICT WITH SPRING BREAK AND I'M HOPE WEING CAN GET CON SEN OF ON THAT. IF NOT, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. ANY CHANCE WE CAN GET CONSENSUS FOR THE BOARD TO MOVE IT BACK ONE WEEK? THANK YOU, GUYS, SO MUCH, THAT MEANS A LOT TO ME AND MY WIFE THANKS YOU. SECONDLY, THERE'S A SECOND BAR OPERATION IN THE NORTHWEST PART OF THE COUNT I CALLED AMITY MARINA, OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, THEY'VE RUN AFOUL OF OUR CODE, I HAVE COME TO BELIEVE THEY ARE NO LONGER OPERATE INING GOOD FAITH, THEY'RE NOT ATTEMPT TOG COMPLY WITH CODE AND SO IT'S TIME FOR SOME ACCOUNTABILITY.

I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY ACTION TODAY BUT I WOULD LIKE TO INSTRUCT OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO COME BACK TO US WITH ANY AND ALL LEGAL MECHANISMS THAT WE CAN HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO, SO IF WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THAT, THEN IT CAN BE AN AGENDA ITEM WHERE THEY CAN PRESENT US WITH SOME OPTIONS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE FAIR, THEY'RE UPSETTING SOME NEIGHBORS UP THERE AND THERE'S BEEN YEARS OF CONVERSATIONS.

YES, I'M SEEING CONSENSUS. I GOT CONSENSUS FOR THAT, AND LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, I WANT TO GIVE THE LEGISLATIVE CONSECUTIVE UPDATE AS WE'RE HEADED TOAL MAS -- TALLAHASSEE, PRAYERS FOR SENATOR, HE'S HAVING SOME HEALTH CHALLENGES, HE'S BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL. WE HAVE THREE FORMER SENATE PRESIDENTS INVOLVED IN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, DON GATES, SENATOR PASEDOMA AND AG COMMISSIONER WILSON, SO THERE'S SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT WHO'S REALLY RUNNING SENATE THIS YEAR, IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD ALL BE AWARE OF AND HAVE OUR EYE ON. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT IN THE NEWS ABOUT ELIMINATING PROPERTY TAXES BUT HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 213 SEEMS TOBIES THE ONE THAT'S GAINING THE MOST TRACTION ACCORDING TO THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.

THIS WOULD LIMIT INSTEAD OF HAVING A 3% INCREASE FOR HOMESTEAD PROPERTIES EVERY SINGLE YEAR ON THE PROPERTY TAX, IT WOULD LIMIT THE 3% INCREASE FOR HOMESTEAD PROPERTY TOS EVERY 3 YEAR SOS YOU WOULD HAVE TWO YEARS WITHOUT ANY INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES AND THEN THAT 3% INCREASE SO, ESSENTIALLY CUT IT BY A THIRD, NON-HOMESTEAD PROPERTIES LIKE

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MOST PREEMPTION BILLS AREN'T TITLED PREEMPTION BUT THIS ONE IS TITLED PREEMPTION TO THE STATE, YOU WANT TO PUT THAT ON YOUR RADAR, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, IT SAYS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN'T BURDEN PRIVATE CLUBS, SO, ON A TWO ACRE LOT POTENTIALLY, WE COULD PARK AS MANY CARS AS WE WANTED TO IF HAD WERE TO PASS, AS MANY CARS, IT COULD BE A CAR LOT ON A FIVE ACRE LOT, I COULD PACK AS MUCH HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND MACHINERY ON TO THAT LOT, SO AGAIN O R-R S, AND SOME OF THE MORE RURAL PASSOVER OUR COUNTY AND ACROSS THE STATE, THIS COULD BE POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT. NO NEW NEWS ON THE BLUE RIBBON BILL, OBVIOUSLY THAT IS PRONT AND CENTER WITH THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.

HB979 AND ITS COMPANION BILL SENATE 1444, ANOTHER PREACCEPTINGBACKER EMTION TO KEEP OUR EYE ON, IT WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED FOR IP FILL DEVELOPMENT, ANYTHING THAT IS FIVE ACRES OR LESS WOULD BE ENTITLED BY RIGHT SO LONG AS IT COMPLY WIDTHS THE ZONING AROUND IT. IF YOU'VE GOT -- WE'VE HAD THIS IN THE PAST WHERE THERE'S A.ER SELL WITH RURAL CULTURE AND SURROUNDED BY RES BE, THAT LAW BY RIGHT WITHOUT COMMUNITY INPUT WOULD BE RESB, SO THAT CONCLUDES THAT UPDATE, WE'RE HEADED TO TALLAHASSEE, THIS MAY BE THE MOST PREEMPTION THAT I HAVE SEEN IN MY TIME AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER, SO THANK

YOU, MR. CHAIR, THAT CON EXCLUDES MY REPORT. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

COMMISSIONER TAYLOR? >> YES, GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, I WANTED TO SHARE IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU HERE, SINCERE SYMPATHY TOS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, I KNOW I HAVE MENTIONED IT BEFORE BUT MOST OF US CAN'T IMAGINE THE HAND YOU HAVE BEEN DEALT, SO YOU HAVE LOTS OF PRAYERS, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY REALLY LOVE YOU. I DID WANT TO SHARE AND I DID WANT TO COMMENT AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE OUT THIS MORNING AND THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE E-MAILED US REGARDING THE SHORE DRIVE TRAIL PROJECT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR AGAIN THAT I HEAR YOU AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS TEARING YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD APART AND IT IS HEARTBREAK TOG SEE HOW MANY YEARS THAT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUGGESTION TO PUT THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS THE SAN SEBASTIAN BOAT RAMP, THAT NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY, WITH THE GROWTH IN THIS COUNTY, WE NEEDED THAT ADDITIONAL BOAT RAMP YESTERDAY, I HEAR FROM PEOPLE ALL THE TIME, THAT BOAT RAMP IS NOWHERE NEAR ENOUGH. ALSO WHAT I DID WANT TO MEPTION SINCE WE ARE GOING TO TALLAHASSEE THIS WEEK, THE BOAT RAMP, THE SAN SEBASTIAN REGIONAL PARK AND BOAT RAMP IS ONE OF OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY THAT IS WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUS ON THIS WEEK BH WE'RE THERE FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY DAY. AT THE LAST DELEGATION MEETING IF EVERYBODY REMEMBERERS, I KNOW SENATOR WEAK MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT WHEN WE DO COME AND ASK AND HAVE REQUESTS FOR HIM THAT HE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE A 50% MATCH, AND THE FACT THAT THIS IS -- WE'RE ASKING FOR 2 MILLION AND THIS PROJECT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT UNDER THAT, I THINK THAT'S A WIN, WIN.

ALSO WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO NEED MANY MORE MILLIONS, AT LEAST OVER 20 MILLION TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT SX, WE WILL NEVER GET THERE IF WE DON'T START ALLOCATING FUNDS TO IT NOW. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THERE. SO, I AGREE THAT IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO PUT THE 1.6 MILLION OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, I HEARD A FEW DIFFERENT NUMBERS, DWARDS THAT PROJECT RIGHT UPFRONT AND THEN ALL THE RESIDENTS AND THE COUNTY CAN BENEFIT. WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THIS MORNING FROM PEOPLE AND I WAS SENT THE SURVEY AS WELL, MANY OF US HAVE, IT CLEARLY IS A VERY FRAUD SURVEY, YOU CAN DO IT MULTIPLE TIMES, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR SPOUSE DO IT, YOUR WORK DEVICE, THERE IS NO WAY THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE A STATISTICAL SURVEY REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME, SO I HAVE TO BE HONEST, I FEEL BAD FOR THE STAFF THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO EVEN GO FORWARD AND HAVE TO TRY

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WHEN WE GO TO TALLAHASSEE THIS WEEK. >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, YOU

HAVE THE FLOOR. >> IS THAT A MOTION? >> YES.

>> CAN I SECOND THAT? >> WE HAVE A MOTION WHEN WE HAVE A SECOND.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE SOME OTHER COMMENTS? HERE, LET ME GET YOU IN THERE.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> I'M AWARE THERE IS A COMMUNITY MEETING SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 11. I'LL BE HONEST, JUST FOR DISCUSSION, I HAVEN'T REALLY CHANGED MY MIND ABOUT THE TRAIL. I WAS PERSUADED BY NOT JUST THE COMMENTS OF PAUL WHO'S CONFINED TO THE CHAIR AT THE TIME BUT ALSO BY JEFF WHO'S THE FIRE CHIEF. THEN WE HAD ANOTHER GENTLEMAN COME UP TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT WHO'S A CAREER LONG DOT EMPLOYEE, JEFF AND THE DOT EMPLOYEE, I FORGET HIS NAME AT THE MOEM, THEY THOUGHT THIS WAS UNSAFE, COMBINE THAT WITH PAUL'S HEARTFELT REMARKS ABOUT HOW HIS PERSPECTIVE HAS CHANGED BEING CONFINE TODAY THE CHAIR, MY PERSPECTIVE HASN'T CHANGED AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THE TRAIL WHILE VERY MUCH RESPECTING THE FOLKS WOULD SEE THIS AS A BLIGHT ON THEIR COMMUNITY, I THINK YOU CAN SEE IT BOTH WAY AND IS I'M TIRED OF FIGHTING ABOUT IT SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO SAY THAT COMMISSIONER JOSEPH AND COMMISSIONER TAYLOR HAVEN'T CHANGED THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON IT, I DON'T THINK CONVOYING ARNOLD HAS CHANGED HER MILD.

DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION TO BE FOR OR AGAINST THE TRAIL OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD

WITH THE COMMUNITY MEETING? >> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING ME THAT -- THE BIGGEST COMMENTS I GET IS WHY DID YOU BRING IT BACK AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IT NEVER WENT AWAY, IF THE TRAIL IS GOING TO BE DISPOSED OF, IT HAS TO BE DONE BY THIS BOARD AND I WANT TO GET PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE NEW PLAN BUT THIS HAS GONE ON FAR TOO LONG. SO I WOULD BE WILLING IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO OFFER INSTEAD OF A MOTION TODAY TO PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA AND LET US HAVE THIS MEETING ON THE 11TH AND THEN WE COULD GO UP OR DOWN AT THE NEXT MEETING, I

WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT, IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO -- >> OKAY.

>> YEAH. >> SO, CAN I AMEND IT? >> WELL, YEAH.

IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT, I WOULD BE WILLING TO SET THIS FOR THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SAY ON THIS AND FOR US TO HAVE A MEETING. IF NOT, I'M CERTAINLY PREPARED TO VOTE.

>> YEAH, I'M WILLING TO DO THAT, SO I WILL WITHDRAW MY ORIGINAL MOTION AND MAKE A NEW MOTION TO PLACE THIS ON THE AGENDA THE NEXT TIME AS FAR AS DISCUSSING THE --

>> DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT? >> YEAH, OKAY.

YOU HAVE MY CONSENSUS, YES. >> CONSENSUS. >> OKAY, GOOD, AND YOUR

COMMENTS, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> MY COMMENT REGARDING THAT IS THAT THERE IS NOT THE STATISTICS TO SHOW THAT ANYONE'S BEEN HURT OR ANYTHING IN THE AREA AND WHEN I FIRST BECAME A COMMISSIONER ASK WALKED THAT BEAUTIFUL PARK, IT WAS SO WONDERFUL AND I CAN SEE XAKLY WHY PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT RIPPED UP WITH A SIDEWALK SO I PROMISED THOSE PEOPLE I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK ON MY PROMISE SO I'M GLAD WE'RE GOING TO MEET IN THE NEXT MEETING AND I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS THAT I FELT THAT THE SAFETY ISSUE IS NOT AS BAD AS IT IS AND I DID SUGGEST A SHORTER ONE BUT A THREE MILE ONE SEEMS RIDICULOUS WASTE OF MONEY.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYTHING ELSE?

CONVOYING TAYLOR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR COMMENT? >> NO.

>> OKAY. >> JUST REAL QUICK, I DO AGREE WITH YOU, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE IN TALLAHASSEE AND HEARING WHAT IS COMING OUT FROM THE STATE IS MIND BOGGLE, SO I DO THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT THIS WEEK AND LET'S HOPE THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS -- I HAVE SAID THAT BEFORE, HOW THESE IDEAS MAKE IT OFF A NAPKIN, I DON'T KNOW BUT THEY ARE HORRIFIC AND AGAIN TAKING E.G. THEY SEEM TO BE FOCUSED ON COMPLETELY TAKES AWAY HOME

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>> THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS. I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE DEDICATION OF THE LID DI AND GREG WHITE FACILITY ON WEST KING STREET WAS AN AMAZING EVENT, IT'S GOING TO BE AN AMAZING FACILITY. SWRR PROUD OF THAT.

GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRAVEL TO DC AND TALK ABOUT OUR BUILD GRANTS FOR THE 16 FOR LANDING AND FOR 2209 AND 210 POTASHES AND GET LETTERS OF COMMITMENT FOR OUR GRANT FROM SENATOR SCOTT, SENATOR MUDY WHICH WAS SUPER ENCOURAGING FOR US, WE NEED THOSE FED WRAL DOLLARS IN HERE. I ALSO GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH GRECO ABOUT OUR APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE SAME TWO PROJECTS FOR STEREO 16, WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF GETTING ASSISTANCE WITH 67 MILLION DOLLARS FROM STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDS FOR THESE TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT TO US. I MEAN, IT'S AN ORGANIC CHOKE POINT THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SOLVE THROUGH WORKING THROUGH THESE THINGS AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY DAY IS THURSDAY, WE ARE SO EXCITED, THE STAFF, JILL HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF BRINGING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND WE'RE EVEN LOADING UP ALLIGATORS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE COLD ALLIGATORS BUT WE'RE LOADING THEM UP TO GO TO TALLAHASSEE, IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE, STAY AWAY, IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT TIME AND IT GIVERS US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOWCASE THE BEST COUNTY IN THE BEST STATE IN THE BEST KUN RI IN THE WORLD AND WE'RE SO PROUD TO BE A PART OF THAT. WITH THAT, I CONCLUDES MY

[County Administrator’s Report]

COMMENTS AND WOULD GO TO YOU, MS. SANDERS. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR.

RYAN KING JUST IN HITCHED ME THE SURVEY IS CLOSING ON THE 1ST MABACKER, THE FIRST MEETING WE COME BACK FOR AGENDA AITEM IS GOING TO BE THE 1ST OF MARCH IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE BOARD.

>> THAT'S FINE WITH ME, AS LONG AS WE DON'T DELAY ANY LONGER THAT THAN WE HAVE TO.

. ER I WANT TODAY MAKE A CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY'S GOING TO TALLAHASSEE AND WE'RE GOING ADD VOLUNTARY TAIT FOR THE BOAT RAMP, CURRENTLY WE HAVE AN APPROPRIATION FOR THE BOAT RAMP, SO WE WILL BE WELL BEYOND THE 50% MATCH KORKT SENATOR LEAK'S RECOMMENDATION ASK THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

[County Attorney’s Report]

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. KOMANDO. >> EVERYONE KNOWS AT THIS POINT THE DISCUSSIONS, OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR YOUN YOON HAVE REACHED AN IMPASSE, I WANT TO ANNOUNCE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND JUST TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHEN YOU WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN, SO EVEN THOUGH THE IMPASSE HAS BEEN DECLARED, WE ARE CONTINUING TO TRY TO COME TO SOME SORT OF MUTUALLY AGREED UPON AGREEMENT AND WE DO HAVE UPCOMING MEETINGS T NEXT ONE IS GOING TO BE NEXT FRIDAY, SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOUR SCHEDULES WOULD PERMIT, I KNOW EVERYONE IS GOING TALLAHASSEE THIS WEEK, MAYBE MONDAY OR WEDNESDAY NEXT WEEK TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THA, EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS DIRECTION AS TO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE NEGOTIATING TEAM MOVE FORWARD WITH.

>> YEAH, DID WE TALK ABOUT A DATE NEXT WEEK, WERE WE LOOKING AT MONDAY, TUESDAY?

>> MON MONDAY OR WEDNESDAY WERE THE TWO THAT I HEARD. IF YOU DON'T MIND LOOKING AT YOUR CALENDARS, WHICH ONE WOULD WORK, LOOKING AT THE AFTERNOONS FOR BOTH OF THOSE.

>> SORRY. >> LET ME TURN EVERYBODY'S MICROPHONE ON.

OKAY, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR MICROPHONES TURNED ON, SO CERTAINLY LET'S FIGURE THIS OUT.

. ER CAN WE DO EARLIER ON WEDNESDAY?

>> YEAH, WEDNESDAY'S BEST FOR ME TOO. >> WEDNESDAY BEFORE NOON WORKS

FOR ME TOO. >> OKAY, I GUESS WE CAN DO THAT. >> WE CAN'T DO TUESDAY.

>> NO. >> LET ME CHECK MY CALENDAR BEFORE MY WIFE KICKS ME UNDER THE TABLE. I CAN CHANGE MY BRIEFING DATE FOR WEDNESDAY IF WE CAN DO IT

IN THE MORNING, THAT WILL WORK. >> SO, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A MAJORITY OF YOU ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE BEFORE NOON WEDNESDAY, WE'LL CHECK WITH OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO MAKE SURE HE

[02:25:03]

>> RIGHT AFTERNOON LIKE AT NOON. >> AT NOON, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, I THINK YOU

MENTIONED BEFORE NOON. >> I HAVE THE REC ADVISORY BOARD AT 1:30, I'M SURE THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND IF WE HAD TO BE AT IN MEETING, AS LONG AS IT'S BEFORE 1:30.

>> SO NOON TO 1:30? OKAY, SO LET'S TENTATIVELY SAY NOON TO 1:30 ON THE 11TH OF

FEBRUARY, OKAY. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> PATTY'S NOT HERE, IS HE. I'M GOING TO MISS MY TOUR OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE, WE'LL HAVE TO RESCHEDULE THAT, THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. NILGTS? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD? SEEING NOTHING, WE ARE ADJOURNE

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