Nov 05, 2019 Board of County Commissioners

[Call to Order]

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>> SPEAKER: AND CALL TO ORDER THE NOVEMBER 5 COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING.

CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

EVERYONE TO RAISE FOR THE INVOCATION GIVEN BY REVEREND KEN WILCOX.

>> LET'S COME TOGETHER AND PRAY IN CONSCIOUSNESS TO KNOW SOMETHING GOOD ABOUT OURSELVES.

EACH OTHER THIS COMMUNITY AND OUR LIFE THAT RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW FLOWS ALL THE POWER, THE LOVE THE CREATIVITY OF SPIRIT. HERE TODAY WE COME TOGETHER TO MELD OUR IDEAS TO MAKE A BETTER COMMUNITY TO MAKE A BETTER HOME TO MAKE A BETTER FAMILY FOR OUR CHILDREN.

LET US AGREE TODAY WE ARE GOING TO TREAT ONE ANOTHER AS ADULTS. WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER'S OPINIONS, KNOWING EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE WITH SOMEONE THEY ARE AS MUCH A SOURCE OF GOD'S WISDOM AS WE ARE, THAT GOD MAY KNOW ALL BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DO.

TODAY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A WONDERFUL MEETING, PRODUCTIVE, AND THIS COMMUNITY WILL BE BETTER FOR OUR TIME HAVING SOME CARE. THESE WORDS HAVE THE POWER OF GOD FLOWING THROUGH THEM AND I PUT THEM IN THE MIND OF GOD TO DO THAT GOOD AND PERFECT BOLD

AND DYNAMIC WORK RETURNING TO US AND TOGETHER WE SAY AMEN. >> SPEAKER: PLEASE JOIN US IN

THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OF THE FLAG OF OUR COUNTRY.NO A>> ALL: I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED. >> SPEAKER: OUR FIRST

[Proclamations]

LINDQUIST TO READ THE PROCLAMATION INTO THE RECORD. >> SPEAKER: A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, FLORIDA, WHERE EACH MEMBER BRINGS A TIME OF YEAR WHEN AMERICANS OFFER THANKS FOR THE ABUNDANT BLESSINGS OF THIS GREAT NATION FOR OUR HOMES AND FOR OUR FAMILIES. AND WHEREAS ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS A LONG-STANDING TRADITION OF LOCAL CITIZENS OPENING THEIR HEARTS AND HOMES TO CHILDREN IN NEED OF A TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT HOME, AND WHEREAS THE YOUTH OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY ARE PRECIOUS TO EACH OF US AND REPRESENT OUR GREATEST HOPE FOR THE FUTURE, AND ALL CHILDREN DESERVE A NURTURING, SAFE AND STABLE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH THEY CAN GROW UP TO ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF A HEALTHY AND PRODUCTIVE LIFE. AND WHERE IS FINDING FOREVER HOMES FOR CHILDREN IN OUT OF HOME CARE IS AN OBJECTIVE ST. JOHNS COUNTY WORK THERE WORKS TOWARDS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. IT IS DURING ADOPTION MONTH WE HOPE TO BRING GREATER AWARENESS OF THE NEED FOR ADOPTIVE FAMILIES TO MAKE THE DREAM COME TRUE FOR ALL LOCAL CHILDREN AWAITING HOMES. AND WHEREAS ALL YOU REQUIRE THE SUPPORT AND SECURITY THAT COMES FROM 11 FAMILY, CHILDREN AWAITING ADOPTION OFTEN NEED DEDICATED, RESOURCEFUL, COMPASSIONATE AND PATIENT CARE GIVERS WHO WILL HELP THEM WORK THROUGH THE DIFFICULTIES ASSOCIATED WITH CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES. WHERE'S OBSERVING ADOPTION MONTH WE RECOGNIZE THE VALUE VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS OF ADOPTIVE PARENTS WHO HAVE FOUND REWARD AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR CHILDREN.

AND WHEREAS IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE REMEMBER ALL THE CHILDREN WHO ARE IN FOSTER CARE WAITING TO BE ADOPTED AS PART OF A LOVING AND CARING FAMILY. AND WHEREAS WE GATHER TOGETHER AS A FAMILY, COMMUNITY, STATE AND NATION TO CELEBRATE AND GIVE THANKS FOR OUR MANY BLESSINGS, IS OUR HOPE THAT ALL CHILDREN AWAITING ADOPTION WILL SOON FIND A PERMANENT AND LOVING FAMILY AND THEREFORE IT IS FITTING TO PROMOTE THE GOALS OF THIS OBSERVANCE DURING THIS

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PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THIS FIFTH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2019. A TEST HUNTER S CONRAD, CLERK OF COURT SIDE ROB BRADLEY CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, FLORIDA SIGNED PAUL

WALDRON CHAIR. >> SPEAKER: MR. FORSTER ON BEHALF OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY ORDER OF COUNTIES THAT LIKE TO PRESENT YOU THIS PROCLAMATION.

TO SUPPORT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL OF THE STAFF HERE AND OUT IN THE FIELD WORKING WITH THE PROGRAM AND WHAT THEY DO EVERY DAY.

MOST IMPORTANTLY I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE ADOPTED THROUGH THIS COPY AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THERE IS CURRENTLY OVER 800 CHILDREN IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA STILL WAITING FOR THEIR FOREVER HOME SO IF YOU ARE YOU KNOW SOMEONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT ADOPTION PLEASE CALL US OUR NUMBER IS 209-6080. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> SPEAKER: WOULD REJECT GREEN AND ANY MEMBERS FROM THE AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY PLEASE JOIN ME UP FRONT. IT'S MY HONOR TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THE 100TH BIRTHDAY OF THE AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR CENTENNIAL.

THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICES THAT YOU PROVIDE TO OUR COUNTRY AND OUR COMMUNITY.

WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. MELISSA, IF YOU WILL MAKE YOUR WAY UP AND READ THE

PROCLAMATION INTO THE RECORD. >> SPEAKER: A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, FLORIDA. WHERE'S THE AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY WAS CREATED IN 1917, ONE YEAR AFTER THE AMERICAN LEGION WAS FOUNDED IN 1918.

WHEREAS THE AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY'S MISSION IS TO SUPPORT THE AMERICAN LEGION AND HONOR VETERANS, MILITARY AND THEIR FAMILIES BOTH IN THE UNITED STATES AND ABROAD.

WHERE'S THE AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY HAS MORE THAN 600,000 MEMBERS TODAY FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE REPRESENTING THE AUXILIARY'S MISSION. WHEREAS THE AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY HAS UPHELD ITS MISSION FOR 100 YEARS NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT NOVEMBER 19, 2019, BE RECOGNIZED AS THE AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY'S 100TH BIRTHDAY PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THIS FIFTH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2019. A TEST HUNTER S CONRAD, CLERK OF COURT, SIGNED BRAD BRADLEY, CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER, BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA,

SIGNED PAUL WALDRON, CHAIRMAN. [APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PROVIDE YOU THIS PROCLAMATION EVERYONE. TODAY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS FOR RECOGNIZING TODAY AS THE 100TH BIRTHDAY FOR THE AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK MY MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE WITH ME. I HAVE FIFTH DISTRICT PRESENT IT ANNIE ANDERSON, PAST NORTHERN DISTRICT PRESIDENT AND CHAPLAIN CAROLYN BROWN CAROLYN

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>> SPEAKER: I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO TELL YOU WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO AND WHY WE MATTER. WE ARE THE LARGEST PATRIOTIC SERVICE ORGANIZATION WHOSE MISSION IS TO ADVOCATE FOR HELP AND HONOR THE UNITED STATES MILITARY, VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND WE SUPPORT THE AMERICAN LEGION. THIS PAST YEAR ALONE THE AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY MEMBERS VOLUNTEER SERVICE OF MORE THAN 40 MILLION HOURS PER THAT'S VOLUNTEER. THAT'S LIKE YOUR MOTHER DOING THINGS FOR YOU AND DOESN'T GET PAID FOR IT.HAT'S VOLUNTEER. PLUS, WE HAVE RAISED OVER $37 MILLION THAT WE HAVE SPENT ON AUXILIARY MISSIONS OUTREACH. WHICH COLLECTIVELY ASK $1.7 BILLION IN SERVICE TO VETERANS, MILITARY CHILDREN, AND THE COMMUNITIES. THIS IS WHY WE MATTER, AND SINCE THE AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY PUBLIC CONSUMPTION ON NOVEMBER 10, 1919, THE AUXILIARY HAS NEVER WAVERED ON OUR MISSION. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, I THINK THEY LOOK PRETTY GOOD FOR 100 YEARS OLD. [APPLAUSE] [APPLAUSE]

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. AND IN CLOSING, I WOULD LIKE FOR MY AUXILIARY MEMBERS TO JOIN ME IN OUR MISSION STATEMENT. IN THE SPIRIT OF SERVICE NOT SELF, THE MISSION OF THE AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY IS TO SUPPORT THE AMERICAN LEGION AND TO HONOR THE SACRIFICE OF THOSE WHO SERVED BY ENHANCING THE LIVES OF OUR VETERANS, MILITARY, AND THEIR FAMILIES. BOTH AT HOME AND ABROAD. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY, WE ADVOCATE FOR VETERANS, EDUCATE OUR CITIZENS, MENTOR OUR YOUTH AND PROMOTE PATRIOTISM.

GOOD CITIZENSHIP, PEACE AND SECURITY. THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO ASK BILL DELIVER THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY VETERANS COUNCIL AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO THE BOARD FOR VETERAN'S DAY PROCLAMATION. IF WE COULD HAVE ALL VETERANS COME FORWARD, ANYONE WHO SERVED IN THE MILITARY, COME ON FORWARD. MR. DUDLEY?

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: WE WILL ASK MS.

LUNDQUIST TO PUBLISH THE PROCLAMATION. >> SPEAKER: A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, ST. JOHNS COUNTY, LORIDA.

WHEREAS ST. JOHN'S COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO HONOR AMERICAN PUBLIC VETERANS FOR THE PATRIOTISM, LOVE OF COUNTRY, COMMITMENT TO FREEDOM AND WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AND SACRIFICE FOR THE COMMON GOOD, AND WHEREAS WE RECOGNIZE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS COMMEMORATION AND HOPE THAT A GRATEFUL NATION AND PAY APPROPRIATE HOMAGE TO THE VETERANS OF ALL ITS WORKERS WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED SO MUCH TO THE PRESERVATION OF THIS NATION AND HAVE ANSWERED THE PRAYERS OF MILLIONS AROUND THE GLOBE. AND WHEREAS ON THIS DAY LET US REMEMBER THE SACRIFICES OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO STEP FORWARD WHEN AMERICA NEEDED THEM.

AND THOSE WHO FOUGHT SO VALIANTLY ON THE SEAS IN THE AIR AND ON CHORES TO PRESERVE

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JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT NOVEMBER 11, 2019, BE DESIGNATED AS VETERAN'S DAY.

WITH RESPECT FOR AND IN RECOGNITION OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE MADE TO THE CAUSE OF PEACE AND FREEDOM AROUND THE WORLD.

PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THIS FIFTH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2019. A TEST HUNTER CONRAD CLERK OF COURT, SIGNED BRAD BRADLEY, CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER, BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA,

PAUL WALDRON, CHAIR. [APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: THIS COMING MONDAY, THIS IS A DAILY GOOD TO REMEMBER ALL THOSE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN THAT JUMPED UP AND DECIDED TO SERVE.HEY DID NOT PICK THE WORKS, BUT DEPICT THEIR COMMITMENT TO SERVE.

I'M EXCITED AND HONORED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THIS PROCLAMATION TO MR. DUDLEY.

PLEASE SAY A FEW WORDS. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

WE APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION OF THIS PROCLAMATION FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

OVER THE YEARS, THIS COUNTY COMMISSION BOARD HAS STOOD BY AND SUPPORTED OUR VETERANS IN THIS COUNTY PROBABLY EQUAL TO NONE ANYWHERE IN THE STATE OR ANYWHERE ELSE.

WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO COUNT ON THIS COUNTY COMMISSION BOARD TO SUPPORT US IN EVERY ENDEAVOR, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN RECOGNITION OF OUR VETERANS. I THINK ABOUT LAST YEAR WHEN THIS COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS DECLARED THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS A PURPLE HEART COUNTY, RECOGNIZING ALL OF OUR COMBAT WOUNDED VETERANS.HERE HAS BEEN OTHER TIMES WHEN THEY HAD STEPPED UP AND SUPPORTED US IN MANY THINGS THAT WE DO CARE FOR OUR VETERANS IN THIS COUNTY.HE ONE THAT IS MOST PROCLAIMED, IF YOU WELL, IS TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE CAME BEFORE THIS COUNTY COMMISSION BOARD TO ESTABLISH A VETERANS TREATMENT COURT FOR OUR VETERANS WHO HAVE THEMSELVES IN THE CRIMINAL UND JUSTICE SYSTEM AND WE CREATED THIS DIVERSION THAT WE COULD MOVE THEM OUT OF THE COURT SYSTEM AND INTO THIS VETERANS TREATMENT COURT SO THAT WE COULD GET THEM THE TREATMENT THAT THEY NEEDED THROUGH THE VA THROUGH OTHER HEALTH SOURCES AND THIS COUNTY COMMISSION BOARD WILLINGLY STEPPED UP AND SUPPORTED BY BEING ABLE TO FUND A FULL-TIME COORDINATOR FOR THIS PROGRAM. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO HONOR THESE VETERANS THIS MORNING WITH A COIN THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED FOR OUR GRADUATING VETERANS WHEN THEY GRADUATE OUT OF THE PROGRAM. AND TO DATE, WE HAVE GRADUATED 20 VETERANS OUT OF THAT PROGRAM. 20 VETERANS.

[APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THIS 20 VETERANS THAT HAVE GRADUATED OUT OF THE VETERANS TREATMENT COURT PROGRAM IS ZERO REPEATS.

NO REPEATS. NONE OF THESE VETERANS ARE BACK IN THE CRIMINAL COURT SYSTEMS. THE RECIDIVISM IS ZERO. AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE NATIONAL AVERAGE BEING 50 PERCENT THAT'S QUITE A RETURN ON INVESTMENT. WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU WOULD TOO STEP FORWARD. I WOULD LIKE OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATION TO COME FORWARD AS WELL AND BE A PART OF THIS. WE HAVE A COIN FOR YOU AS WELL.

OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, AND SHAWNA NOVAK, WOULD YOU COME UP IN JOIN US, PLEASE?

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>> SPEAKER: AT THIS TIME WE CAN DO IT FROM UP THERE IF YOU'D LIKE ÃBUT READ INTO THE RECORD PONTE VEDRE CORNER CELEBRATED ITS ANNIVERSARY AND WE WILL HAVE RECOGNITION OF THEM IS A LONG-STANDING NEWSPAPER IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA AND OUR COUNTY.

TANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA. WHERE'S THE PONTE VEDRE REPORTER WAS FOUNDED BY PEGGY BRADFORD AND GRETCHEN CARPENTER AND FIRST PUBLISHED NOVEMBER 7, 1969 IN PONTE VEDRE, FLORIDA. WHERE'S THE PONTE VEDRE RECORDER HAS REMAINED THE PAPER RECORD PROVIDED CONSISTENT COVERAGE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, BUSINESS, EDUCATION, RELIGION, HEALTHCARE AND LIFESTYLE NEWS, AND WHERE THE PONTE VEDRE RECORDER PARTNERS WITH AREA AGENCIES, GROUPS, LOCAL BUSINESSES AND NONPROFITS THROUGH COMMUNITY JOURNALISM AND ADVERTISING. WHERE'S THE PONTE VEDRE RECORDER HAS BEEN A TRUSTED CENTRAL SOURCE FOR WEEKLY COMMUNITY NEWS FOR 50 YEARS AND CONTINUES ITS MISSION OF FINDING AND SHARING IS FOR THE INFORMATION, EVENTS, AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PNTE VEDRE AND JACKSONVILLE BEACHES. NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSINERS, ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT NOVEMBER 7, 2019 HE RECOGNIZED AS PONTE VEDRE RECORDER DAY PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THIS FIFTH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2019.

A TEST HUNTER S CONRAD, CLERK OF COURT. SIGNED BRAD BRADLEY, CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORES LAW

AND PAUL LYNN WALDRON, CHAIRMAN. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATIONS? A MOTION IN A SECOND.

[Public Comment]

WE WILL ALSO BE ADDING MY COLORS LANDING TO THE AGENDA SO WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON IT. IT WILL BE ADDED AT THE END OF THE DAY

>> SPEAKER: THE BURWELL PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS THAT ARE NOT IN THE REGULAR AGENDA.

REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS WILL HAVE THEIR OWN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

A PERSON WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD WILL COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS. EACH PERSON WILL BE PROVIDED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND SHALL COMPLY WITH THE BOARD PRESIDENT RULES OF DECORUM. COMMENTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO

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MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ANY DISRUPTIVE DEMONSTRATION OF THE APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS. FINALLY I WOULD ASK THAT ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS ANY OVERHEAD MATERIAL PLEASE PRESENT THE MATERIAL TO THE STAFF OF THE CLERK OF THE COURT TO BE ENTERED IN THE PUBLIC RECORD. THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING. SHERRY BADGER, 2772 S. COLLINS AVENUE.

I HAVE A FEW PICTURES TO SHOW YOU. ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS DID COME BY WHEN IT WAS IN HIGH TIDE. BUT HAD PICTURES OF WHEN IT DOES BECAUSE ALL OF OUR DRAINAGE GOES INTO THE SAND SEBASTIAN.

THE FIRST ONE IS A 24 INCH CULVERT RIGHT HERE.OU CAN HARDLY SEE IT.

THIS IS ONE GOING INTO IT, THIS IS ANOTHER CULVERT GOING INTO IT.

THIS IS ANOTHER CULVERT COMING UNDERNEATH OUR ROAD AND COMING INTO IT.

YOU'VE GOT THREE CULVERTS COMING INTO AN 18 INCH PIPE. THEN THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE HIGH TIDE. COMMISSIONER WALDRON, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING BY AND LOOKING, BUT EVIDENTLY YOU LOOKED AT LOW TIDE. I DO HAVE VIDEO ON MY PHONE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE IT OF A WHIRLPOOL OING ON IN THE DITCH WHERE THE WATERS MET.

BECAUSE WHEN THE STITCH FILLS UP, IT'S GOING TO BACK FLOW ON THE EAST SIDE OF COLLINS AVENUE INTO OUR PROPERTY. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE YOUR ENGINEERING COULD APPROVE STUFF LIKE THIS. YOU ALL REALLY NEED TO INVESTIGATE YOUR STAFF.

YOUR STAFF THAT APPROVED THIS. THIS IS GOING ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

HEY, PEOPLE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, WAKE UP AND QUIT BEING COMPLACENT AND COULD TELL THEM WHAT'S GOING ON. YOU KNOW, THE AIR GETTING DISMISSIVENESS I SEE THIS MAN IS HERE FROM DECREASE AGAIN. HE WILL HAVEN'T CLEANED ANYTHING.

BACK IN THE DAY THE WATERWAYS USED TO BE FOR TRANSPORTATION. I HAPPEN TO OWN SEVEN ACRES OF CREEK AND PUTNAM COUNTY. AND THEY HAVEN'T CLEANED THAT EITHER.

YOU WILL NEED TO STAND UP TO ST. JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT AND QUIT FLOODING PEOPLE OUT.

YOU ALSO NEED TO HOLD YOUR EMPLOYEES, UPPER-LEVEL STAFF, NOT YOUR PEOPLE AFTER WORKING CATCHING FLAK FROM PEOPLE LIKE ME GOING DOWN THE ROAD. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

HAVE A GREAT DAY. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ROBERT AND I LIVE AT 4860 FLAGLER STATES BLVD.

AND HASTINGS. THIS MORNING I AM HERE AS AN ADVOCATE FOR DEEP CREEK AND A LITTLE BOAT RAMP ÃA PUBLIC BOAT RAMP AT CR 13. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS WE HAVE ALL THE FUNDING AND PERMITTING WAS ON EASY STREET.

I CALL THIS DEEP CREEK GOD. HE IS READY TO GO. THEN ENTERS TRASH A SMALL GUY AND HE SAYS IT'S A FLOODPLAIN. WATER CAN FLOW AROUND IT. NOW WE HAVE WATER THAT FLOWS AROUND IT DOWN OUR HIGHWAYS. AND IT FLOODS OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE TRASH FLOWS DOWN AND LIFTS UP AND WE GET REFRIGERATORS OUT IN THE WOODS. AND THE SEPTIC TANKS WERE DESIGNED TO WORK ON A CERTAIN WATER TABLE. ONCE YOU FLOOD THAT THERE'S A BUNCH OF TOXICITY THAT STARTS COMING UP. NOW, I WANT TO RENAME THE EPA FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL POLLUTION AGENCY.

IF THIS IS HOW THEY ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MANAGE DEEP CREEK.

NOW, WHEN THEY NAMED DEEP CREEK, THEY CALLED IT DEEP CREEK.

THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT TRASH A SWAMP. YOU KNOW? AND THEY DIDN'T BUILD DELTA DAMS THERE. AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CONTROLLING THIS AREA NOW, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE NEGLECTING THE AREA, THEY'RE NEGLECTING WHAT'S GOING ON. AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IS ALL OF THIS TRASH AND DEBRIS STARTS FLOWING DOWN AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE BEAVER DAMS, YOU KNOW? ANY STUFF JUST CONGLOMERATES AND FORMS A DELTA DAMS THERE. THAT'S NOT DEEP CREEK.

DEEP CREEK WAS DECREASED BEFORE THERE WAS A STATE OF FLORIDA. WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME INTO THE COUNTRY AND DO THIS. DEEP CREEK PROVIDED DRAINAGE TO MY ENTIRE COMMUNITY BEFORE THERE WAS AN EPA OR A UNITED STATES. AND NOW, WHEN YOU GET HELP FROM

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SO I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM DOING IT RIGHT AND GETTING IT DONE AND

NOT NEGLECTING IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: A NUMBER OF PEOPLE CAME TODAY TO TALK ABOUT MICRO LANDING.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT. CAN THEY DO SO NOW?

THOSE PEOPLE TO COME BACK?LL OF- >> WE WILL HAVE IT AS AN AGENDA ITEMS SO WE WILL ONLY HAVE IT

AS AN AGENDA. >> SPEAKER: WE WILL PUT IT EARLIER IN THE AGENDA AND IF

YOU CAN STICK AROUND WE WILL DO IT THEN. >> SPEAKER: OKAY.HANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING. I AM JARED OLSON AND I LIVE AT 20 MARCH 2, 2009 HARBOR BEAST A CIRCLE. SO THE BOARD MAY REMEMBER THE LAST TIME THAT WE AS A GROUP CAME HERE TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU. YOU MIGHT BE WONDERING WHY WE AS A GROUP ARE BACK.

BEFORE WE PROCEED, IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO EXPLAIN WHY WE KIDD O'SHEA AND WHY SHOULD THE CIRCUMSTANCES DEMANDED. WE WILL KEEP RETURNING TO THESE MEETINGS.

WE FOUNDED OUR GROUP CLIMATE ACTION ST. AUGUSTINE IN THE WAKE OF THE GLOBAL CLIMATE STRIKE ON SEPTEMBER 20. WE DID SO BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT ADDRESSING THE GREAT EXISTENTIAL THREAT CLIMATE CHANGE POSES TO COMMUNITIES LIKE OUR OWN ENTAILS MORE THAN JUST COMPLAINING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. WE CAN'T REALLY COMPLAIN, WE HAVE TO PUSH FOR POLICY CHANGE. WE HAVE TO STAND FOR SOMETHING FOR A FUTURE IN WHICH COMMUNITIES LIKE ST. AUGUSTINE REPRESENT A PROACTIVE RESPONSE TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

WE ARE NOT A POLITICAL GROUP AND WE HAVE EVERYONE FROM DEMOCRATS TO REPUBLICANS WITH US TODAY. OUR GENERATION UNDERSTANDS THAT DEFENDING OUR COMMUNITY FROM CLIMATE CHANGE S NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE AND NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

SO GREAT YOU MIGHT BE THINKING ABOUT BUNCH OF COLLEGE STUDENTS CAME IN HERE TODAY LIKE LAST TIME TO EXALT AND SPEAK WITHOUT GIVING ANY CONCRETE PROPOSALS. WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE A POLICY PROPOSAL TODAY. ON JUNE 19 OF THIS YEAR, YOU PASSED AN AMENDED 2025 CONFERENCE OF PLAN FOR HOW TO MAKE OUR ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMUNITY MORE RESILIENT IN THE FACE OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND LESS OF A CONTRIBUTOR TO IT. BECAUSE THIS CLIMATE CHANGE IS POSING A DEEP EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO COMMUNITIES SUCH AS OUR OWN, WE NEED YOU, WE IMPLORE YOU TO IMPLEMENT THE MEASURES CONTAINED IN THIS PLAN WITH A PARTICULAR EMPHASIS ON REVISING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ADHERE TO STRICTER MEASURES WE CAN PRESUME PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE, IF THERE IS A FUTURE, WILL READ THE STORY OF HOW COMMUNITIES LIKE OUR OWN DECIDED TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE. WE ARE IMPLORING YOU TO HELP US TO FIGHT AGAINST ÃTO BE POSITIVE LEADERS IN THAT STORY. WE WANT ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO BE A MODEL LOOKED UP TO THE GLOBAL FIGHT AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE. WE HAVE COME TO THE TABLE, WE ARE IMPLORING YOU TO HELP US ON THIS. THE CHOICE TO HELP US IS NOW YOURS. AGAIN, WE ARE IMPLORING YOU TO IMPLEMENT THE ENVIRONMENTAL MEASURES LAID OUT IN YOUR AMENDED 2025 CONFERENCE A PLAN WITH A PARTICULAR INTEREST TOWARDS REVISING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. IT IS DEEPLY IMPORTANT FOR US, FOR YOU, FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR PLANET THAT YOU BEGIN TO ENACT RADICAL POLICY OVERHAUL TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE. I WILL NOW LEAVE IT TO MY PEERS TO FURTHER EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT. THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: I AM QUITE ILL SO I WILL TRY TO KEEP THIS SHORT. IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME THE NIGHT HERE SO I COULD SPEAK BEFORE YOU TODAY ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT AFFECTS US ALL. I AM HERE BECAUSE IT IS MY DUTY

>> SPEAKER: NEEVIN ADDRESS >> CASSANDRA BURKART, STUDENT AT FLAGLER COLLEGE MY PERMANENT ADDRESS IS 2137 TO SERVE IN PLACE. I AM HERE BECAUSE IT'S MY DUTY

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FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE THIS WAS THE EPICENTER OF EUROPEAN WESTERN CONQUEST FIRST EUROPEAN ESTABLISHED CITY IN THE NATION. THE PHYSICAL REMNANTS OF THIS HISTORY ARE IN DANGER.

AS I SEARCH FOR HOUSING UNDER COLLEGE STUDENT'S LIMITED BUDGET I AM ONLY STRESSED MORE BY THE FACT THAT WHEREVER I TRY TO ESTABLISH ROOTS THE EFFECT OF FLOODING, HURRICANES AND THE LIKE ARE ONLY GETTING MORE INTENSE. IT IS AGAINST MY INTEREST AS A PROSPECTIVE HOMEOWNER TO INVEST IN PROPERTY IN THIS COUNTY. I AM ALSO HERE BECAUSE IT IS MY DUTY AS A CHRISTIAN IS GOD AND HIS GRACE GAVE US SUCH A RICH, BEAUTIFUL AND DELICATELY BALANCED PLANET TO TEND AND CARE FOR THEM. WE HAVE NEGLECTED THESE GIFTS, DENYING RESPONSIBILITY FOR CATASTROPHES SO GREAT THEY COULD ONLY BE ATTRIBUTED TO ONE SPECIES. I WILL CLOSE TODAY BY REINSTATING OUR PROPOSAL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. BECAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE AND SEALEVEL RISE ARE RUNNING HAND IN HAND WE IMPLORE YOU OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO UPDATE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, TO BE THE POLICIES OF AMENDMENT 2025 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH YOU APPROVED ON JUNE 2019 OF THE

SHARE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING. I AM CHRIS BLANCO I LIVE 239 LIBERIA STREET IN LINCOLNVILLE. AND WITH CLIMATE CHANGE, THREATENING OUR LIVES AND THREATENING THE LIVES OF OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS, FOR WHICH TODAY PRESENT INVOCATION STATED YOUR PROJECT WE IMPLORE YOU TO UTILIZE THE TOOLS YOU ALREADY HAVE LAID FORTH IN YOUR AMENDED 2025 CONFERENCE OF PLAN. TO COMBAT THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE UPDATING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ADHERE TO STRICTER ENVIRONMENTAL MEASURES ENVISIONED IN THAT PLAN. THE SCIENCE IS CLEAR AND IT IS REAL.

A .8 DEGREES CELSIUS TEMPERATURE RISE GLOBALLY INCREASED SEALEVEL BY EIGHT CENTIMETERS. THIS IS JUST CONSIDERING THE THERMAL EXPANSION OF WATER.

NOT OTHER FACTORS LIKE MELTING LAND ICE AND A WEAKENING ATLANTIC MERIDIAN OVERTURN

>> THE REGIONAL CHANGE CLIMATE CHANGE COMPACT WHICH WAS ENACTED IN 2010 BY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS OF BROWARD, MIAMI-DADE, MONROE AND PALM BEACH COUNTIES HAVE PROJECTED A POTENTIAL SEALEVEL RISE BY 20 TO 30 2B6 TO 10 MORE INCHES. IN 14 TO 24 MORE INCHES BY 2060 AND BY 2100 TO BE 31 TO 61 INCHES. THIS MEANS THAT BY THE TIME I AM 50 YEARS OLD, SEALEVEL WILL BE 1 TO 2 FEET HIGHER THAN IT IS TODAY.

AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN WILL BE DEALING WITH A SEALEVEL THAT IS 3 TO 5 FEET HIGHER THAN IT IS TODAY. THIS MEANS THAT AREAS IN ST. AUGUSTINE LIKE LINCOLNVILLE WHERE I LIVE WILL BE COMPLETELY INUNDATED BY ANNUAL AVERAGE SEALEVEL AND MANY STUDIES CONCLUDE THAT RISE IN ONE TO 2.3 FEET OF SEALEVEL RISE WILL HAVE DESTRUCTIVE FLOODING AFFECTS. WE DON'T NEED MORE SCENARIOS LIKE WE DO NEAR SUMMER HAVEN BY OLD A1A WHERE MILLION-DOLLAR HOMES WERE BOUGHT AND ABANDONED AND DESTROYED BY NATURAL DISASTERS. ACCORDING TO A NEW STUDY PUBLISHED ABOUT A WEEK AGO IN NATURE COMMUNICATIONS, BY 2050, SEALEVEL RISE WILL PUSH AN AVERAGE ANNUAL COST OF FLOOD HIGHER THAN LAND NOW HOME TO 30 MILLION PEOPLE. ITASCA PERMANENTLY RISE ABOVE LAND OCCUPIED BY 150 MILLION PEOPLE. WITHOUT ADVANCED COASTAL DEFENSE AND PLANNING, POPULATIONS IN THESE AREAS MAY FACE PERMANENT FLOODING WITHIN 30 YEARS. ST. AUGUSTINE IS AT A PIVOTAL MOMENT IN HISTORY.

WE NEED TO ACT RIGOROUSLY AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE BY PRESERVING UNDEVELOPED LAND BECAUSE BIODIVERSITY AND COASTAL LAND IS ONE OF OUR GREATEST WEAPONS WE HAVE TO HELP PROTECT OUR ALREADY DEVELOPED LANDS.WE NEED YOU TO HELP US MAKE OUR COMMUNITY A PROTAGONIST IN THIS MOMENT IN HISTORY. THANK YOU AGAIN.

[APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS 144 KING ST. APARTMENT 3. I AM A SENIOR AT FLAGLER, A MEMBER OF CLIMATE ACTION NOW ST. AUGUSTINE. I WOULD TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO US TODAY.

AND I WANTED TO BEGIN WITH SAYING I SPEND HOURS EVERY WEEK IN THE FIELD ON BOATS AND DOING RESEARCH AND I GET TO SEE FIRSTHAND DEVASTATING EFFECTS OF ANTHROPOGENIC WHICH IS HUMAN

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[APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

I AM LOU GREENE. I'M A SENIOR AT FLAGLER COLLEGE AND I LIVE AT 44 FLORIDA AVENUE I WAS BORN IN ELLENSBURG, KENTUCKY. IT'S A SMALL TOWN IN WESTERN KENTUCKY AND I MAJOR MY SOPHOMORE YEAR OF COLLEGE. I CAME IN WITH A BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION MAJOR. I TOOK ONE IN COLLEGE COURSE AND FROM THAT POINT ON, I'VE LEFT THE ENVIRONMENT. EVERY ASPECT OF IT HAS CONNECTED WITH ME.

AND IT RESOUNDS WITH THE KNEE. NOW, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF YOUR TIME TODAY, BUT I WOULD REALLY WANT TO IMPLORE YOU ALL THAT IT IS IMPORTANT AND CRUCIAL WE CARE FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT. EVERY ASPECT OF ST. AUGUSTINE 'S ECONOMY IS RELIANT UPON OUR ENVIRONMENT. ENVIRONMENTAL TOURISM IS CRUCIAL TO US.

IF WE NEGLECT THAT ALONE ON ECONOMIC VALUE, THAT WOULD BE A HUGE DETRIMENT TO US, TO PEOPLE. SO BECAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE AND SEALEVEL RISE ARE RUNNING HAND IN HAND WE IMPLORE YOU OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO UPDATE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO MEET THE POLICIES OF AMENDMENT 2025 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH YOU APPROVED JUNE 19 OF THIS YEAR.

AND ALSO I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU ALL THAT WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY.

IT DOES MEAN A LOT TO US AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND MAKING A CHANGE IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GREAT DAY.

[APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS SOPHIA PIKE.

I LIVE AT 128 ISLANDER CIR. WE ARE HERE TODAY AS IT PART OF CLIMATE ACTION ST. AUGUSTINE BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF OUR GENERATION UNDERSTANDS IS NOT MERELY AN ABSTRACT THREAT THAT THREATENS OUR COMMUNITY. COLLECTIVELY, WE COME TO TELL YOU WE NEED YOU, OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, TO HELP MAKE OUR COMMUNITY AN EXAMPLE OF SUSTAINABILITY THROUGH PLAYING OUR PART IN FIGHTING CLIMATE CHANGE. BESIDES DESCRIBING THE GREAT EXISTENTIAL THREAT CLIMATE CHANGE POSES TO COMMUNITIES LIKE OUR OWN IS VAST.

ONE ONLY HAS TO ASK SOMEONE WHO'S LOST HER HOME TO HURRICANE IRMA FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THERE'S LITTLE POINT IN DISCUSSING THAT AT THIS MEETING TODAY. IT MAKES LITTLE DIFFERENCE IF WE COME HERE TO CRITICIZE THE BOARD. WHAT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE, WHAT IS WORTH DISCUSSING IS THE CONCRETE ACTIONS WE NEED YOU TO ACT UPON TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY MORE RESILIENT IN THE FACE OF CLIMATE CHANGE AS WELL AS LESS OF A CONTRIBUTOR TO IT. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, BECAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE AND SEALEVEL RISES ARE RUNNING HAND IN HAND, WE IMPLORE YOU, OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, TO UPDATE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO MEET THE POLICIES OF THE AMENDED 2025 CONFERENCE OF PLAN THAT YOU APPROVED ON JUNE 19 AT THIS YEAR.

IN THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN, YOU WRITE, WHEN CONSIDERING NEW DEVELOPMENT, REDEVELOPMENT AND REQUESTS FOR INCREASED DENSITY, THE COUNTY SHALL CONSIDER THE IMPLICATIONS OF POTENTIAL RISE IN SEALEVEL AND HAZARDS OF DEVELOPING SEAWARD AT THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE. THE POINT IN PARTICULAR CANNOT BE OVERSTATED.

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MORE THAN ANYTHING, WE NEED YOU TO HELP US COLLECTIVELY TRANSFORM OUR COMMUNITY IN THE FIGHT AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE. IT'S WHY WE IMPLORE YOU TO UPDATE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO THE AMENDED 2025 CONFERENCE OF PLAN, ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS A HISTORIC JUNCTION IN THE FIGHT AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE.

WE NEED YOU TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY TO BE A PROTAGONIST IN THAT STORY.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: I LIVE AT 530 MIDORI ST. AND SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. I CAME HERE TO ADDRESS THE AGGRESSIVE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAPPENED IN ST. AUGUSTINE. I AM A LIFELONG RESIDENT AND I HAVE SEEN THIS TOWN GO FROM A VERY SMALL FISHING COMMUNITY TO SOMETHING MUCH LARGER LIKE IT IS TODAY. AND I AM ASKING US AS A COMMUNITY AND THE CITY COMMISSIONERS, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, TO REALLY HAVE SOME FORESIGHT ON DECISIONS WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS AND JUST DEVELOPMENTS IN GENERAL ON SENSITIVE AREAS LIKE THE ICW AND THE LANDS PRONE TO FLOODING.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT ACREAGE AND SENSITIVE LAND AREAS AND THINK IN FIVE YEARS HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE WITH ALL OF THESE OTHER BUILDINGS, ALL OF THESE MALLS, ALL OF THESE MEGA HOUSING COMMUNITIES LIKE NOBODY AND BEING AWARE OF THE SENSITIVITY.

THE ENVIRONMENT IS VERY, VERY SENSITIVE AND NEEDS OUR PRODUCTION ESPECIALLY THE ICW THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAYS. LOTS OF PESTICIDE RUNOFF AND FLOODING COMING FROM WHAT I THINK IS POORLY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF FORESIGHT AND WE ARE GOING TO BUILD THIS AND SOMEONE IS GOING TO GO RIGHT OVER HERE AND HOW DOES ONE AFFECT THE OTHER. AS A LIFELONG RESIDENT, AS A MOTHER, I JUST WANT TO SEE ST.

AUGUSTINE IN 10 YEARS AND SEE IT INTACT AND HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS NOW.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GOOD DAY.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: MY NAME IS CAMILLE MONTANA I LIVE AT ONE MALAGA STREET AT THE DORMS. THOUGH I'VE ONLY LIVED AT THAT ADDRESS FOR TWO YEARS, I CONSIDER IT NOT JUST MY HOME BUT ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS A WHOLE. PHOWEVER, LIKE ANY HOME IT'S NO PERFECT AND THE INCREASING AMOUNT OF LAND DEVELOPMENT THAT THE COUNTY HAS UNDERTAKEN IS A GREAT MISTAKE, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE THREAT CLIMATE CHANGE POSES TO OUR COUNTY. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY IS A LOT FOR THE DESTRUCTION AND MASS TRACKS OF SALT MARSHES THAT WOULD SORT GREENHOUSE GASES GOING INTO THE ATMOSPHERE, THE CONSTRUCTION HAS EXACERBATED ISSUES THAT ST.

JOHNS COUNTY HAS BEEN DEALING WITH FOR A LONG WHILE. THIS PAVEMENT INCREASES FLOODING IS NO WATER CANNOT BE ABSORBED IN THE GROUND ALLOWING STREETS TO TURN DIRECTORS ON AN AVERAGE RATED A. THE PAVEMENT AND OTHER MATERIALS USED IN THESE DEVELOPMENTS HAS ALLOWED FOR THE BOILING TEMPERATURE PLATING NOT JUST THE COUNTY BUT THE STATE AS A WHOLE TO GET WORSE. BEFORE ST. JOHNS COUNTY, I LIVED IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF FLORIDA. THIS AREA ALSO EXPERIENCES A LOT OF THE SAME INCREASED LAND DEVELOPMENT AND ORGANIZATION THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY DISTRICTS PLUS IT ALSO EXPERIENCES A LOT OF THE SAME ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES SUCH AS DEFORESTATION, HAZARDOUS FLOODING, AND BORDERLINE UNLIVABLE TEMPERATURES. I ALREADY STRUGGLED WITH THE IDEA THAT MY CHILDHOOD HOME, THE AREA MY FAMILY IMMIGRATED TO WHEN THEY HAD TO ESCAPE POVERTY IN THE PHILIPPINES MIGHT BE GONE UNINHABITABLE IN JUST A FEW SHORT DECADES IF NOTHING IS DONE. I DON'T WANT THE COUNTY WHERE I MET SOME OF MY DEAREST FRIENDS AND FAMILY MANAGED TO GET A SENSE OF WHO I AM TO SUFFER THE SAME FATE.

BECAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE IS CAUSING A GREAT EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THE COMMUNITIES LIKE OUR OWN, WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR CAPABILITY TO UTILIZ THE TOOLS LAID FORTH IN YOUR AMENDED 2025 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO COMBAT THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO UPDATING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ADHERE TO THE STRICTER ENVIRONMENTAL MEASURES ENVISIONED IN THAT PLAN.HANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

[APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: HELLO. I AM CAROLYN PIERCE AND I LIVE AT 208 CARACOL AVENUE, ST. AUGUSTINE. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO FIND A WAY TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS TO MAKE ST. AUGUSTINE MORE RESILIENT TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND SEALEVEL RISE. I KNOW AS A BUNCH OF YOUNG ADULTS AND COLLEGE STUDENTS YOU

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WE WENT TO WORK WITH YOU AND MAKE A SOLUTION SO WE CAN HAVE A BETTER FUTURE FOR US, FOR OUR KIDS, GRANDKIDS AND EVERYONE TO COME. WE ARE HERE TO DEFEND THE ST.

AUGUSTINE BY MAKING HISTORY. THE SEALEVEL RISE ONLY HAS TWO ÃSEALEVEL ONLY HAS TO RISE MORE LEADER FOR DOWNTOWN ST. AUGUSTINE, LINCOLNVILLE, ANASTASIA ISLAND AND VILANO BEACH WILL BE FLOODED. I WILL LEAVE YOU FOR THIS. WAITING FOR YOU AT OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO UPDATE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT MEETS THE POLICIES OF THE AMENDED 2020 CONFERENCE OF PLAN ÃEXCUSE ME ÃUPDATE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT MEETS THE AMENDMENT PATH COVERS A PLUMAGE APPROVED ON JUNE 19 OF THIS YEAR. THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS CARA AND I LIVE AT 6 MULVEY ST., ST. AUGUSTINE, FL.

THIS CAME WITH A SET OF INSTRUCTIONS BUT WE SEEM TO HAVE MISPLACED THEM.

IMPORTANT ROLES LIKE THE WASTEWATER, DON'T LET THE EARTH GET OVERCROWDED AND DON'T TOUCH THE THERMOSTAT HAS BEEN BROKEN MR. FOLLOW AN AMERICAN ENGINEER ONCE SAID SPATIAL EARTH WAS SO INGENIOUSLY DESIGNED THAT NO ONE HAS A CLUE THAT WE ARE ON. FLYING TO THE UNIVERSE AT A MILLION MILES PER HOUR BUT NO NEED FOR SEATBELTS LOTS OF ROOM IN COACH AND LOTS OF GOOD FOOD, BUT THAT IS ALL CHANGING. WHEN I ASKED IF I AM PESSIMISTIC OR OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE FUTURE, THE ANSWER IS ALWAYS THE SAME. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCIENCE AND WHAT IS HAPPENING ON HER AND YOU AREN'T PESSIMISTIC, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DATA.

BUT IF YOU MEET THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING TO RESTORE THIS EARTH AND THE LIVES OF THE POOR AND YOU AREN'T OPTIMISTIC, YOU HAVEN'T GOT A PULSE. WHAT I SEE EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD ARE ORDINARY PEOPLE WILLING TO CONFRONT DESPAIR AND CAPABLE ODDS IN ORDER TO RESTORE GRACE, JUSTICE AND BEAUTY IN THIS WORLD. THE POET ADRIENNE RICH WROTE, SO MUCH HAS BEEN DESTROYED. I HAVE TO CAST MY LOT TO THOSE WHO AGE AFTER AGE PERVERSELY WITH NO EXTRAORDINARY POWER TO RECONSTITUTE THE WORLD. THERE COULD BE NO BETTER DESCRIPTION. HUMANITY IS UNITING. IT IS RECONSTITUTING THE WORLD AND THE ACTION IS TAKING PLACE IN SCHOOL ROOMS, FARMS, JUNGLES, VILLAGES, CAMPUSES, COMPANIES, REFUGEE CAMPS, DESERTS, FISHERIES, SLUMS AND RIGHT HERE IN THIS MEETING HALL. BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND SEALEVEL RISE, THEY ARE RUNNING HAND-IN-HAND, WE IMPLORE YOU, OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, TO USE THE TOOLS YOU HAVE ALREADY IMPLORED LIKE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO MEET THE POLICIES OF THEM AT 2025 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH YOU APPROVED ON JUNE 19 OF THIS YEAR.

PLEASE STAND WITH US IN THIS FIGHT. THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: I AND MEGAN WRITE A SENIOR AT FLAGLER COLLEGE MY ADDRESS IS 6 MULVEY ST. IN FLAGLER. WITH A NUMBER OF INTERNATIONAL TOURISTS ON THE RISE IN THIS AREA OF FLORIDA, THE ENVIRONMENTAL EXAMPLE THAT THE BOARD EXCEPT SPEAKS VOLUMES. ONCE A REFUGE FOR TRAVELING CITIZENS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES ESCAPING POOR CONDITIONS IN THEIR HOMELANDS ST. AUGUSTINE ESPECIALLY HAS BEEN NO STRANGER TO INFLUXES OF VISITORS. THE COMMUNITY IS INVITING WARM TRULY ONE-OF-A-KIND.

HOWEVER, WE ARE UNDER SEVERE THREAT FROM CHANGES IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

IN ORDER TO PROPERLY PRESERVE, CHERISH, AND CARRY ON THE HISTORICAL LEGACY OF THIS PART OF THE EASTERN SEABOARD, I BELIEVE THESE PROCESSES BEGIN HERE.

POLICIES MADE AND AMENDED BY THE CITIZENS IT IMPACTS. BECAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE IS CAUSING A GREAT EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO COMMUNITIES LIKE OUR OWN, WE NEED YOU, THE BOARD, TO DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR CAPABILITY TO UTILIZE THE TOOLS LAID FORTH IN YOUR AMENDED 2025 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, TO COMBAT THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND PRODUCE AND INCLUDING BUT

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BE PROUD OF THE WORK YOU ARE DOING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

[APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: I AM HANNAH LEONARD FROM 29 NESSMITH AVENUE IN WEST KING. WE HEAR TODAY IS A PART OF CLIMATE ACTION ST. AUGUSTINE BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF OUR GENERATION UNDERSTANDS CLIMATE STRAIN, CHANGE IS NOT AN ABSTRACT THREAT AND IT THREATENS COMMUNITIES LIKE OUR OWN.

WE NEED YOU TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY AN EXAMPLE TO PLAYING OUR PART IN CLIMATE CHANGE.

WITHOUT FURTHER ADO BECAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE AND SEALEVEL RISE ARE RUNNING HAND-IN-HAND WE IMPLORE YOU OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO UPDATE LAND DEVELOPENT CODE TO MEET THE POLICIES OF THE AMENDED 2025 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT YOU APPROVED ON JUNE 19, 2019.

AND WE DON'T COME HERE TO BE HOSTILE. MORE THAN ANYTHING WE NEED YOU TO HELP US COLLECTIVELY TRANSFORM OUR COMMUNITY IN THE FIGHT AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE.

THAT'S WHY WE IMPLORE YOU TO UPDATE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO AMEND THE 2025 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS A HISTORIC JUNCTURE IN THE FIGHT AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE AND WE NEED YOU TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY BE A PROTAGONIST IN THAT STORY.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING.

I AM CURRENTLY AND I LIVE AT 29 NESSMITH AVENUE IN WEST KING. WE ARE HERE TODAY AS PART OF CLIMATE ACTION ST. AUGUSTINE BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF OUR GENERATION UNDERSTANDS THE CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT MERELY AN ABSTRACT THREAT THAT IT THREATENS COMMUNITIES JUST LIKE OUR OWN. WE UNDERSTAND THAT ADDRESSING CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE AND IT NEVER HAS BEEN. COLLECTIVELY WE HAVE COME TO TELL YOU THAT WE NEED YOU, OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, TO HELP US CHANGE OUR COMMUNITY TO BE A MORE SUSTAINABLE ONE. THE SCIENCE DESCRIBING THE GREATEST EXISTENTIAL THREAT CLIMATE CHANGE POSES TO COMMUNITIES LIKE OUR OWN IS VAST.

ONE ONLY NEEDS TO ASK SOMEONE WHO LOST THEIR HOMES DURING PARKING KARMA FOR THE TWO UNDERSTAND THAT.HERE'S LITTLE POINT IN DISCUSSING THAT AT THIS MEETING.

IT MAKES LITTLE DIFFERENCE IF WE CONTINUE TO CRITICIZE THE BOARD WHAT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE, WHAT IS WORTH OUR TIME IS THE CONCRETE ACTIONS THAT WE NEED YOU TO ACT UPON TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY MORE AND MORE RESILIENT IN THE FACE OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

AS WELL AS LESS OF A CONTRIBUTOR TO IT. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO BECAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE AND SEALEVEL RISE ARE RUNNING HAND-IN-HAND WE IMPLORE YOU, OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, TO UPDATE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO MEET THE POLICIES OF THE AMENDED 2025 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT YOU APPROVED ON JUNE 19 OF THIS YEAR.

IN THE PASSAGE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN YOU WRITE, THE COMPANY IS ANALYZED AND MAPPED IDENTIFIED AREAS OF THE COUNTY VULNERABLE TO THE TYPE OF FLUCTUATIONS COASTAL EROSION, HURRICANES, TROPICAL STORMS, HIGH WATER TABLES, FLOODING, AND THE OTHER IMPACTS OF RISING WATER AND SHOPPING CENTER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO ADDRESS THESE AREAS.

THE MESSAGE OF THIS PASSAGE IS CLEAR. WE NEED TO BE DEEPLY WILLING TO STOP DEVELOPMENTS AND ZONES WHICH WE KNOW WILL BE DAMAGED BY CLIMATE CHANGE DRIVEN STORMS. WE CANNOT OVERSTATE THE DANGER OF RECKLESSLY CREATIVE DEVELOPMENTS ALONG WITH THE LIVES IN THESE AREAS. AGAIN, WE ARE NOT COMING HERE TO BE HOSTILE. MORE THAN ANYTHING WE NEED YOUR HELP.

WE NEED TO MAKE A PLAN AND HELP ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN THIS HISTORIC FIGHT AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> SPEAKER: MY NAME IS VICTORIA TROUP AND I RESIDE AT 144 KING ST., APT.1B.

WE ARE WELL AWARE OF THE THREAT CLIMATE CHANGE POSES IT SHOULD NOT BE A DIVISIVE ISSUE.

THE COUNTY IS DISCUSSED IN THE 2025 CONFERENCE A PLAN UNDER OBJECTIVE 8.1.3 THAT SEALEVEL RISE IS A THREAT TO THE COMMUNITY AND OUTLINE WAYS TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

CLIMATE CHANGE IS BUZZING A GREAT EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO COMMUNITIES LIKE OUR OWN WE NEED YOU TO DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR CAPABILITY TO UTILIZE THE TOOLS LAID OUT IN THIS PLAN.

TO COMBAT THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND UPDATE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS GROWING. THERE IS A 4.2 PERCENT INCREASE IN THE COUNTIES POPULATION IN

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THIS WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE ST. AUGUSTINE RECORD. THIS RAPID POPULATION GROWTH MEANS MORE LAND IS BEING DEVELOPED TO HELP THESE PEOPLE. CURRENTLY THERE ARE SIX ROBUST PDEVELOPMENTS ARMAMENTS [INDISCERNIBLE] THIS WAS FOUND IN THE COUNTIES LAND DEVELOPMENT TRACKER. WHEN DEVELOPMENT HAS A DIRECT CORRELATION TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND WORSENING THE EFFECTS. INCLUDED MASS TRANSIT FLOORS AND [INDISCERNIBLE] THEY TAKE IN CARBON WHICH IS ONE OF THE GREENHOUSE GASES CONTRIBUTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND WHEN HE SINGS OR DESTROYED DURING D4 STATION ALL OF THE CARBON IS RELEASED BACK INTO THE ATMOSPHERE. ADDITIONALLY WITH DEVELOPMENT CONCRETE IS IMPERVIOUS MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR WATER TO BE ABSORBED INTO THE GROUND. THIS LEADS TO RUNOFF AND THAT INCREASES FLOOD HAZARDS BECAUSE THERE'S NO MORE FOR THE WATER TO GO.

WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH FLOODING ALREADY IF IT RAINS. WE DON'T NEED TO FURTHER WORSEN THE ISSUE WITH DEVELOPMENT. CONCRETE ABSORBS HEAT WHICH IS EFFECT.S THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND DEVELOPED AREAS TEND TO BE HOTTER THAN THE COUNTERPARTS SOMETHING WE WILL FAIL IF WE CONTINUE THIS RAPID DEVELOPMENT. IN THE FACE OF CLIMATE CHANGE THESE INCREASED TEMPERATURES IN URBAN SETTINGS CAN PREVAIL. CLIMATE CHANGE DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF URBAN REGIONS SUCH AS WATER SHORTAGES DUE TO TOO MANY PEOPLE DRINKING FROM THE AQUIFER. SHORTAGES DUE TO PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES.

WITH DEVELOPMENT THESE ISSUES WILL ONLY WORSEN. PLEASE CONSIDER THE VERY REAL EFFECTS EVERY DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY. NEED TO LESSEN OUR CONTRIBUTION TO MITIGATE THE EFFECTS REVEALED IN THE FACE OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

WE ARE HISTORIC JUNCTURE. THE ABILITY TO BE A LEADER. >> SPEAKER: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY LET ME START BY SAYING I HAVE A FLATWARE COLLEGE STUDENT AND A FULL-TIME RESTAURANT WORKER AND A MUCH RATHER BE DOING OTHER THINGS LIKE SLEEPING OR DOING HOMEWORK THAN BEING HERE BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US. REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE, YOU CAN'T DENY THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN OUR CITY.

HAVING ONLY BEEN HERE FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS SEEING TWO OR MORE HURRICANES COME THROUGH IN JUST ACTUALLY DESTROY THE TOWN FLOODING EVERYTHING YOU SEE THIS HAPPENING REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU BELIEVE CLIMATE CHANGE IS OUR CHANGING. I'M GOING TO CONTINUE ON.

WE ARE HERE TODAY AS PART OF CLIMATE ACTION ST. AUGUSTINE LIKE THE REST OF THE GROUP HERE, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF OUR GENERATION UNDERSTANDS CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT AN ABSTRACT THREAT. LIKE I MENTIONED, THE THREAT IS WITH THE COMMUNITIES VERY CLOSE TO ÃWE ARE RIGHT ON THE WATER AND SO WHENEVER RAIN COMES AND WHENEVER IT FLOODS WE ARE THE FIRST TO GET HIT. CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE WHICH IT NEVER HAS BEEN.E WENT TO WORK WITH PYOU WE WANT TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN WE WANT TO ALL WORK TOGETHER. IT'S NOTHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE EVERYONE HERE FROM DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS TO REPUBLICANS AMONG THE RANKS TODAY.

WE COME TO TELL YOU WE NEED YOUR HELP LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO HELP MAKE THIS COMMUNITY AND EXAMPLES ARE PLAYING OUR PART INCLUDING CLIMATE CHANGE. THE SCIENCE DESCRIBING THE EXISTENTIAL THREAT IT MAKES LITTLE DIFFERENCE WHAT WE COME HERE TO COME HERE FOR THE CONCRETE ACTIONS YOU NEED TO KNOCK UPON MAKING OUR COMMUNITY MORE RESILIENT BENEFITS OF CLIMATE CHANGE AS WELL AS LESS OF A LEADER TO IT. WITHOUT FURTHER REVIEW BECAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE AND SEALEVEL RISE ARE RUNNING HAND-IN-HAND WE IMPLORE YOU LOCAL GOVERNMENT OF THE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT CODE TO BE POLICIES O THE AMENDED 2025 CONFERENCE A PLAN THAT YOU APPROVED UNITY THAT THE SHARED. EACH OF US HERE TODAY TO REITERATE THE IMPORTANCE OF UPDATING CODE TO ADHERE TO THAT CONFERENCE A PLAN STRICTER ENVIRONMENTAL MEASURES, OR READING PASSAGES FROM THE PLAN E1327 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN YOU WRITE, COUNTY SHALL CONTINUE TO REQUIRE DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT SEAWARD OF THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL AND ESTABLISHED PURSUANT TO SECTION 161.053 FSP CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 161 OF THE FOUR STATUTES. IMPLEMENTING THIS AS PART OF THE CONFERENCE A PLAN IS DEEPLY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY NOT JUST BECAUSE IT WILL PREVENT THIS POTENTIAL DAMAGE AND WORSENING STORMS IT WOULD ENTAIL FOR THE PRESERVATION OF COASTAL AREAS THAT SHOULD BE DEVELOPED ÃNEVER HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED IN THE FIRST PLACE. WE DON'T HAVE YOU TO FIGHT WITH YOU GUYS. MORE THAN ANYTHING WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO TRANSFORM OUR COMMUNITY IN THEFACE OF CLIMATE CHANGE. THAT'S WHY WE IMPLORE YOU TO

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>> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING. I AM SHERRY LLOYD. I LIVE AT 157 OCEAN HOLLOW LN.

ON VILANO BEACH. I MOVED FROM THE MIDWEST OVER SIX YEARS AGO, AND I CAN CONFIRM THAT IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, I HAVE WITNESSED AND LIVED DRASTIC CHANGES IN OUR CLIMATE. THE FIRST TWO YEARS HERE IT WAS JUST PURE HEAVEN AND THEN MATTHEW CAME AND, AND WE HAVE THESE LONG CLOUDY DAYS THAT WE NEVER HAD IN THE PAST.

WE HAVE THE HEAT WITH THE HIGH HUMIDITY. IT'S STILL HUMID TODAY.

I THINK IF YOU'VE LIVED FOR A LONG TIME YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT NORMAL.

WE ARE IN A CRITICAL POINT FOR HUMANITY. FOR THE PAST 40 YEARS, OUR DEMOCRACY HAS BEEN SLOWLY ERODED. I HAVE LIVED THOSE PAST 40 YEARS AS AN ADULT, BUT MY EYES WERE JUST OPENED JUST IN JUNE. I BECAME INVOLVED IN POLITICS AND I STARTED TO WATCH THE NEWS MORE AND THEN I BECAME INVOLVED WITH THE CLIMATE CHANGE.

I KNEW THAT THERE WAS LOTS OF CORRUPTION OUT THERE IN OUR GOVERNMENTS, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW DEEP IT WAS. AND I KNEW OUR EARTH WAS HURTING BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW MUCH IT WAS. THAT'S WHY I AM COMMITTED FOR ALL PEOPLE AND FOR OUR EARTH, AND I AM URGING MY GENERATION TO COME AND JOIN THIS BEAUTIFUL GENERATION THAT ARE SPEAKING SO WELL AND THEY ARE SPEAKING THE TRUTH, THE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE IS THERE.

WE CANNOT BE IN DENIAL. WE MUST WAKE UP. WE MUST UNDERSTAND, AND WE MUST MAKE CORRECTIONS RIGHT NOW. MARTIN LUTHER KING SAID, OUR LIFE BEGINS TO END THE DAY WE STOP TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT MATTERED. AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

WE WERE ALL JUST PUSHED DOWN. WE SHOULDN'T TALK ABOUT THINGS. SO THERE'S AN UPPER ONE PERCENT IN THE WHOLE WORLD THAT IS CONTROLLING END IS CORROSIVE. AND IT'S TIME THAT WE STOP.

AND IT IS STOPPING. ALL OVER THE WORLD, DEMOCRACY IS STANDING UP.

YOU ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. IT'S ALL OVER THE WORLD.

IN ALL AREAS OF THE WORLD YOU ARE NOT GOING AWAY. YOU ARE A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR DEMOCRACY. IT'S HOW MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SO ELEGANTLY EXPRESSED, WE NEED YOU TO STEP UP AND DO YOUR PART. WE NEED ALL OF US TO FIND THE PASSION THAT HAS BEEN LOST FOR THE DEMOCRACY, FOR ALL PEOPLE AND FOR OUR EARTH.

THERE IS A HUGE MOMENT Ã MOVEMENT GOING AS I HAVE JUST TOLD AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. NOBODY CAN PUT THEIR HEAD IN THE SAND AND DO NOT ÃI SEE MY TIME IS NOT ÃSO I AM FOR YOU FOR EVERY DECISION THAT YOU MAKE A DECISION TO HELP ALL

PEOPLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> I AM BILL HAMILTON AT 7000 CHARLES ST. IN ST. AUGUSTINE. THE PROBLEM THIS MORNING TO STAND WITH THESE YOUNG PEOPLE.

SPEAKIN FOR THE FUTURE OF ALL OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.OCTOR JAMES HINSON HAS BEEN A 46 VETERAN OF NASA AND THE PAST DIRECTOR OF THE GODDARD SPACE INSTITUTE HE AND A GROUP OF INTERNATIONAL PUBLISHED A PEER-REVIEWED STUDY IN 2000 2017 AND TITLE ICEMELT SEALEVEL RISE OF SUPER STORMS EVIDENCE FROM PALEO CLIMATE DATA, CLIMATE MODELING AND MODERATE OBSERVATIONS THAT TWO DEGREES CENTIGRADE GLOBAL WARMING COULD BE DANGEROUS.

THE TAKE AWAY IS CO2 IN THE ATMOSPHERE IS THE CONTROL KNOB THAT SETS GLOBAL TEMPERATURES.

CO2 EMISSIONS CONTINUE AT HIGH LEVELS. IF WE CONTINUE WITH THIS CO2 CONTRIBUTIONS WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE TO AVOID MULTIMETER LOWRISE THREE METERS SEALEVEL RISE BY 2050 IS LIKELY. ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL COSTS OF LOSING COASTAL CITIES INCLUDING ST. AUGUSTINE WILL BE INCALCULABLE. ADAPTATION WILL BE UNACCEPTABLE TO MOST OF HUMANITY. FORCED MIGRATIONS CONFLICTS, ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES MIGHT

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WITHIN THE LAST WEEK, THERE HAVE BEEN TWO NEW STUDIES THAT CORRECTED SOME OF THE MISTAKES THAT WERE MADE IN HANSEN'S STUDY AND THEY FIND ERRORS AND RISING SILVER PREDICTIONS IS MUCH WORSE MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE ST. JOHNS COUNTY NEEDS TO PUT AS MUCH AGAINST SEALEVEL RISE THE VOTERS OVERWHELMINGLY APPROVE THE MONEY FOR FLORIDA AND WATER CONSERVATION INITIATIVE 2014 WE NEED TO APPROACH THE GOVERNOR AND THE CABINET AND GET SOME OF THAT MONEY. THE FISH ISLAND PROGRAM PROJECT THAT JUST WENT THROUGH MOSES CREEK, MATANZAS WOODS, THOSE ARE THE MODELS WE NEED TO FOLLOW.

THERE'S TONS OF LAND ON STATE ROUTE 206 AND 207 THAT NEEDS TO GO AND CONSERVATION.

THAT'S OUR BEST DEFENSE AGAINST A RISING C AND A CHANGING CLIMATE THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER BLOCKER WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER: FIRST I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING AND HIGHLIGTING THESE THINGS. I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THIS IS ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT DEMOCRACY IS CITIZENS COULD TO COME AND HIGHLIGHT THESE ISSUES.

I DO WANT TO ASK OUR STAFF, I KNOW WE HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT THIS AND HEARD SOME COMMENTS TODAY. I THINK AS A BOARD OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND WHERE WE'RE GOING AND CONSERVATION. YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS TO WHAT'S

BEEN SAID TODAY? >> SPEAKER: IT'S HARD TO GIVE A SPECIFIC RESPONSE TO GENERALIZED COMMENTARY. THERE HASN'T BEEN A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION MADE TO THE BOARD. I THINK I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THE CONCEPT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THEY ARE OUT OF SYNC, AS YOU KNOW WE JUST DREW OUR SEMIANNUAL PROGRAM THROUGH THE STATE AND UPDATED OUR CONFERENCE A PLAN. THE BOARD DID ADOPT A COMPLETE NEW SERIES OF POLICIES DURING WITH CLIMATE CHANGE AND COASTAL EROSION AND COASTAL FLOODING SEALEVEL CHANGE. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS A DYNAMIC DOCUMENT.

YOU MAKE CHANGES TO IT ON A REGULAR BASIS AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.

SO I THINK WE ARE DOING A BEXAR COUNTY. WE ARE CONVERTING OUR FLEET TO CNG TO REDUCE EMISSIONS.E ARE LOOKING AND HAVE IMPLEMENTED PROGRAMS FOR ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND LOWER UTILIZATION OF FUELS. I THINK WE ARE DOING A LOT.

WE WELCOME THE PUBLIC PURSE A POSITION BUT I THINK IF THE STUDENTS OR ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO MOVE THE NEEDLE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE US SOME SPECIFIC PROPOSALS THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSION AND THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. PROSPECTUS CHANGE. THIS IS A DEMOCRACY THAT EVERYBODY SEES EVERY ISSUE THE SAME WAY. NOT EVERYBODY IS IMPACTED BY CHANGES IN PUBLIC POLICIES. SO ON BEHALF OF STAFF AND I'M SURE THE COMMISSION, I WILL REPRESENT WE ARE OPEN TO THE DIALOGUE BUT I THINK WE'VE DONE A LOT IN RECENT YEARS AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO AND WELCOME ANY CONSTRUCTIVE INPUT, BUT IT REALLY DOES NEED TO BE SPECIFIC

RATHER THAN GENERAL IF WE ARE GOING TO ACT ON IT. >> SPEAKER: I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS OF STAFF TO MAKE THEMSELVES AVAILABLE TO MAKE SURE THEY TALK TO THESE CONCERNED CITIZENS AND I'M SURE WE AS A BORDER PLANNING ON DOING THAT AS WELL THAT WAY WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH CONCRETE NEW IDEAS, NEW INNOVATION WE CAN LOOK AT.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: I GOT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS AND I WILL TRY TO BE QUICK. NUMBER ONE, I CERTAINLY DO NOT SEE YOU AS A GROUP AS THE ENEMY. I SEE YOU AS CONCERNED AND INVOLVED YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN WHO CARE ABOUT OUR WORLD AND OUR CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY SO I WELCOME YOUR INPUT.

NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO SEVERAL OF YOU MAY DIRECT COMMENTS ABOUT THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE. I HOPE YOU ARE HAVING A SIMILAR DIALOGUE WITH THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. THEY HAVE A CITY COMMISSION THAT MEETS REGULARLY JUST AS WE MEET REGULARLY AS A COUNTY COMMISSION. SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS DEAL DIRECTLY WITH THEY HAVE THE EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION OVER ALL LAND-USE AND WE HAVE NO

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WITH RESPECT TO THE COUNTY, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ON NOVEMBER 20 AND 21ST, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS THAT THE THOUSAND FRIENDS OF FLORIDA ARE HOSTING.

THE FIRST IS NOVEMBER 20. THE EDUCATIONAL CENTER ON A1A NORTH.

THE SECOND ON THE 21ST IS AT THE STEVE CHAPMAN CENTER ON 61 S. 1155 THE THOUSAND FRIENDS OF FLORIDA HAVE BEEN PURSUING RISK MANAGEMENT ISSUES THAT YOU RAISE FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS IN FLORIDA PARTICULARLY IN SOUTH FLORIDA I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO ATTEND EITHER OR BOTH OF THOSE CONFERENCES NOVEMBER 20 ALSO THEY WILL BE DISCUSSING. THE CONCERNS YOU HAVE RAISED.

THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: I WAS HOPING SOMEONE ELSE WILL COME UP HERE AND TALK BEHIND THEM. I WAITED TO SEE AND THAT WAS A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW.

WHEN I WAS A KID IN COLLEGE I WAS LOOKING FOR THE NEXT KEG PARTY.

I'M GLAD I WAS HERE TO LISTEN TO IT. MY NAME IS JIM HENSLEY AND I LIVE AT 7330:00 COURT IN THE MARSH LANDING SUBDIVISION IN PONTE VEDRE BEACH.

I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR YOUR HELP AS I HAVE FOR THE PAST 28 MONTHS I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO TURN TO. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE FOR THE PAST 20 MONTHS I WORKED ALONGSIDE THE EMPLOYEES OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT TO HELPED ME WITH MY SUBDIVISION AND THE ISSUES THEY HAVE WITH THEIR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

WHICH IS DETRIMENTAL TO OUR SUBDIVISION BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORKING AND IT'S FAILING.

IN OUR SUBDIVISION CONTINUES TO FLOOD. MY HOME IS FLOODED TWICE NOW BUT WITH IRMA AND WITH MATTHEW. SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO MY MY FAMILY HAS HAD TO MOVE OUT OF OUR HOME FOR A YEAR AT A TIME. AND THERE ARE 1100 HOMES INSIDE OF MARSH LANDING ALSO IN MANY FOLKS HAVE HAD DAMAGE AND HAVE HAD TO MOVE OUT. I'VE DONE EVERYTHING THE COUNTY HAS ASKED ME TO DO. I HAVE HIRED NOT ONE BUT TWO ENGINEERS.

I HAVE HIRED SURVEYORS. I HAVE MET WITH THE COUNCIL RIGHT HERE, THE LEGAL COUNSEL HERE MANY TIMES. I HAVE SENT THIS INFORMATION HERE TO ALL THE COUNTY HERE ALSO, ALL THESE PAPERS I HAVE SENT TO THE LAWYERS AND I THOUGHT WE HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP FOR THE 28 MONTHS. WE ISSUED THREE OF THESE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE HERE TO MY HOA AND I NEED YOU TO HELPED ME WITH MY HOA. I WILL PAY YOU TOO.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE ANY TROUBLE, BUT FOR THREE YEARS NOW I'VE LIVED THROUGH HURRICANE SEASON, AND I'M THE ONLY ONE IN MY SUBDIVISION THAT KNOWS ABOUT THIS ISSUE WAS. I HAVE A LETTER RIGHT HERE FROM ST. JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT.

MR. DEAN IS AWARE OF HOW THEY ARE AND AS YOU CAN READ THEIR EXCESS THIS IS A SYSTEMIC ISSUE FOR MY SUBDIVISION. I AM CAUGHT IN A BUREAUCRATIC NIGHTMARE BETWEEN THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR ST. JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THIS HAS BEEN THREE YEARS THAT I'VE GONE THROUGH THIS. I CAN SHOW YOU ALL THESE DOCUMENTS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE SYSTEM IS VALUED, SHOW YOUR ENGINEER REPORTS AND I DON'T WANT TO BORE YOU ALL DAY LONG BUT I'M HERE TO BEG FOR YOUR HELP WHEN DORIAN CAME MY FAMILY JUST CRIED FOR DAYS. WE THOUGHT WE MADE IT THROUGH TO YOU AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE YEAR THE COUNTY WILL HELPED ME. THIS IS THE RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT WILL HELPED ME. HERE I AM TODAY IN THE PUBLIC HAVING TO SPEW THIS DIRTY STORY IN FRONT OF EVERYONE TO BEG FOR SOMEONE'S HELP I WAITED FOR THREE YEARS AND I JUST CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER.

MY FAMILY AND I HAVE HAD SLEEPLESS NIGHTS AND I'VE MET WITH MR. BLOCKER AND MR. WALDRON MANY TIMES AND I BEGGING YOU FOR YOUR HELP. AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER

BLOCKER FOR >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MR. MCCORMICK, COULD YOU COMMENT ON THIS? I KNOW SOME OF THE LEGAL STAFF HAS LOOKED AT THIS. SEE IF YOU COULD ENLIGHTEN US ABOUT?

>> SPEAKER: SURE. FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY MR. HENSLEY HAS COMMITTED MET WITH STAFF. HE'S BEEN VERY RESPECTFUL. WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE ANYONE THAT HAS HAD TO SUFFER THROUGH NOT JUST ONE FLOODING BUT TWO. THIS MATTER IS COMPLEX AND THAT THEY PERTAIN TO PRIVATE ROADS, AND THERE IS AN HOA THERE AND ALSO, THE WATER MANAGEMENT

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>> PLACES WITHIN THE MARSH LANDING SUBDIVISION IN PONTE VEDRE AND THE ISSUES ARE PRIMARILY WITH ENTITIES THAT ARE NOT ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THESE ARE PRIVATE ROADS WITH PRIVATE EASEMENTS INTO PRIVATE PONDS IN THE MATTER DEALS WITH ENFORCEMENT PRIMARILY BY THE MARSH LANDING ASSOCIATION AND FORCING THE PRIVATE COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS AND EASEMENTS AND WITH THE ST. JOHNS WATER MANAGEMENT AND STORMWATER PONDS.

IN REGARDS TO THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT ESPECIALLY. THE COUNTY IS LOOKING TO THAT AGENCY OF THEIR EXPERTISE TO KIND OF SAY WHAT SHOULD BE PERMITTED AND WHAT IS THE CORRECT FIX. OTHERWISE, THE COUNTY CAN CITE THEM, BUT WE CAN'T REQUIRE THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT TO APPROVE A PERMIT OR TAKE ANY ACTION THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH ITSELF. ALL WE CAN DO IS CITE THEM. THE PURPOSE OF CODE ENFORCEMENT IS FOR CODE COMPLIANCE. IT'S NOT TO BE UNNECESSARILY PUNITIVE.

OR ATTRIBUTED OR USED AS A REVENUE-GENERATING MEASURE. >> IF I MAY, THROUGH THE CHAIR, THE COUNTY HAS I THINK A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

I THINK WE HAVE KIND OF DONE THAT AT A STAFF LEVEL. IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE TO DEVELOP KIND OF A LETTER OF CONCERN FROM PERHAPS THE BOARD OR THE CHAIR PERTAINING TO THAT. I THINK THERE IS A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP, BUT IT MAY BE BACK WITH THAT LITTLE EXTRA ATTENTION AND HIGHLIGHTING, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL, SO I WOULD

KIND OF SUBMIT THAT AS A POSSIBILITY. >> WOULD HAVE TO GET A BOARD

CONSENSUS BUT COMMISSIONER DEAN, IF YOU HAD AN ASPECT Ã >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THAT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE, BUT RATHER THAN A LETTER, I WOULD CERTAINLY VOLUNTEER AND SPEND A COUPLE OF HOURS MYSELF PERSONALLY TO SIT DOWN WITH DOCTOR SHORTELL AND I WAS GOING TO ASK MR. HENSLEY HAS WAS TAKEN OFF THE CASE FOR DISCIPLINARY ISSUES. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GO MEET WITH HIM AND WALK THROUGH THIS WHOLE SCENARIO AND TRY TO GET A BETTER IDEA AND I CAN REPORT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND THE STAFF AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE MORE PRODUCTIVE AND JUST SORT

OF A STANDALONE LETTER. >> I THANK YOU FOR THAT. ONE LAST COMMENT AND I PROMISE I WILL EAT. I'M JUST REALLY SCARED THAT SOMEONE'S GOING TO DIE.

ONE OF OUR CHILDREN ARE GOING TO DROWN THROUGH ONE OF THESE THINGS.

AFTER THREE YEARS, I JUST CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE SO I'M BEGGING YOU FOR YOUR HELP.

ASK I WILL MAKE YOUR POINT WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. >> SPEAKER: IF YOU WOULD, THAT

WOULD BE GREAT. >> SPEAKER: ANYMORE PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING. RACHEL BENNETT 111 NATURE WALK PKWY., ST. AUGUSTINE THE AGENDA ITEM THAT WAS WITHDRAWN AND AM NOT SPEAKING ON IT AT THIS POINT.

I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN BY THINKING FLAGLER COUNTY STUDENTS AND THE PRESENTATIONS WERE IMPRESSIVE AND THE OFFERING OF ALTERNATIVES INSTEAD OF SIMPLY BEATING ON THE WALL IS ALWAYS A GOOD WAY TO APPROACH THINGS. I'M PROUD OF YOU AND THANK YOU YOU HAVE A GOOD FUTURE IN FRONT OF YOU. PTHE OTHER THING I'M HERE FOR I TO DO SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN I AM RETIRED. I RETIRED ON FRIDAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO DO AS I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS. I KNOW HOW MUCH YOU TRY AND LOOKING TO BEING PREPARED INTO THE ENTIRE QUESTION INTO WEIGHING THE BALANCE OF ONE PERSON'S PERSONAL STRONGLY HELD

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YOU ARE NOT THANKS ENOUGH. I HOPE YOU KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DO APPRECIATE YOU. AND I AM ONE OF THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION. YOU BROUGHT THIS COMPANY THROUGH THE DOWNTURN. WE CAME OUT IN REALLY, REALLY GOOD SHAPE, AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN HARD WORK. YOU HAVE RAISED THE BAR OF PROFESSIONALISM IN THIS COUNTY, AND THAT CANNOT BE UNDERESTIMATED. THAT WILL BRING US INTO THE FUTURE IN SPECTACULAR CONDITION. MOST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IT TAKES A LOT OF PEOPLE TO RUN A COUNTY. AND YORK COUNTY STAFF IS PHENOMENAL. I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THEM FOR 20 YEARS.

BEGINNING AS A COUNTY EMPLOYEE AND THEN AS A PRIVATE SECTOR AND THEN AS A COMMISSIONER AND THEN BACK AS A PRIVATE SECTOR CONSULTANT. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TREATED WITH COURTESY. YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE INTELLIGENT AND THEY STAND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY. AND ALTHOUGH I CONSIDER MANY POINTS OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO BE SOMEWHAT CAPRICIOUS AND ARBITRARY, I HAVE NEVER FOUND THE EMPLOYEES TO BE SO. IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE HAD VIGOROUS AND SOMETIMES LONG-TERM DISAGREEMENTS BETWEEN ME AND THE STAFF, IT HAS BEEN RESPECTFUL AND IT HAS BEEN WORKED OUT, I THINK, IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY. A HUGE THANK YOU TO PEOPLE THAT DON'T GET THANKS ENOUGH. THE COMMISSION, THE ADMINISTRATION, AND THE EMPLOYEES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S BEEN AN HONOR.

>> SPEAKER: I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE ALSO.

IT SEEMS A LOT EASIER SITTING OUT THERE THAN IT IS ACCURATE. LEGAL?

>> SPEAKER: MR. CHAIR, IF YOU WOULD ALLOW FOR A MOMENT. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THINK COMMISSIONER BENNETT. SHE SERVED AS COUNTY COMMISSIONER CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION. SHE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN IMPROVING THE TDC PROGRAM.

WEST AUGUSTINE, THE ENVIRONMENT, AND CLIMATE OUT THERE, TRANSPORTATION, ALTERNATIVES AND I WOULD JUST SAY GENERALLY COUNTY PROCESSES MANY IN PARTICULAR, THERE ARE MANY OTHER ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT COMMISSIONER BENNETT ADDED, AND I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE HER ON HER RETIREMENT AND HOPEFULLY THAT SHE WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY THAT WITHIN THE COUNTY

AND TRAVELING WHEREVER SHE SHOULD CHOOSE TO. >> THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: PLEASE, COME ON FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS I AM JAMES HILL A BIOGRAPHY HAD BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT HIM FURTHER RESEARCH REVEALED THIS BOOK WAS OUT-OF-PRINT BUT COULD BE PURCHASED THROUGH AMAZON FOR $600.

I WENT TO THE MAIN LIBRARY AND WENT TO THE REFERENCE DESK AND THEY FOUND THE BOOK FOR ME

WITHIN TWO WEEKS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> SPEAKER: I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WAS APPROPRIATE BECAUSE I ALREADY SPOKE BUT I JUST WANTED

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TO ASK TWO QUICK QUESTIONS IF THAT WAS OKAY. >> SPEAKER: IT'S UP TO THE

CHAIRMAN >> SPEAKER: SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ALONG WITH THE CITY COMMISSIONERS WITH THE AGGRESSIVE LAND DEVELOPMENT IS GOING ON WITH PUB SUB DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING ON, IS A CODE ENFORCEMENT OR IS IT UP TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, OR IS IT UP TO WILDLIFE CONSERVATIONISTS OR THE WATER

DISTRICT THE WATER MANAGEMENT? WHO MAKES THE DECISION Ã >> SOMEBODY GET WITH HER ANSWER

QUESTIONS? >> THEY WILL ASK YOU YOU QUESTIONS

>> SPEAKER: ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING? PLEASE.

>> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING. CYNTHIA HARTMAN, 1825 AUTUMN BROOK LN., ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

IN WORKING WITH THIS PROCESS RELATED TO ROBERTS ROAD, MY EYES HAVE BEEN OPENED.

I HAVE MADE GREAT FRIENDS, I HAVE LEARNED A LOT AND I HAVE TO SAY I'M VERY PROUD OF MY COMMUNITY FOR PULLING TOGETHER AND MAKING THE DECISION THAT WE CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER AND WANT TO HAVE WHAT'S BEST. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME LISTENING TO US AND DOING YOUR PART TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT'S RIGHT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.ND I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT?

SEEING NO, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> SPEAKER: I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT TO SPEAK TODAY. WE WILL NOW HAVE ANY DELETIONS

[Consent Agenda]

TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: NONE.

>> WE WOULD LIKE TO PULL NUMBER 17 AND NUMBER 20. ONE WAS A CIVILIZATION REPLACEMENT.

CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED? WE WILL ADD MICHLARS LANDING AS

[Regular Agenda]

FROM THE AGENDA >> SPEAKER: IF THE MOTION WERE TO INCLUDE JUST ADOPT THE LANGUAGE THAT THE BOARD ACCEPTS THE WITHDRAWAL OF 2019 Ã08 I WOULD JUST INCORPORATE THAT.

>> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER SMITH, ANYTHING ELSE? GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA ADDING

[Item 1]

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THE TOTAL EARNED UNUSED AND UNDISTRIBUTED REVENUE OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE FOR 2018/2019 FISCAL YEAR IS $5,454,525.96 THE FUNDS OF ALREADY BEEN DEPOSITED INTO YOUR ACCOUNTS AND THE VARIOUS OTHER TAXING AUTHORITIES.

THE TOTAL HOWEVER I WANTED TO CAUTION YOU THAT THE TOTAL EARNED REVENUE FOR 2018/2019 FOR MORE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE IS $6,001,456.68. OF WHICH $546,930.72 HAS ARTY BEEN DEPOSITED INTO YOUR ACCOUNTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. I WANT TO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION BUT THAT'S A RETURN OF 87.24 PERCENT OF THE BUDGET OF THE BUDGET WHICH IS APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE. BY FLORIDA STATUTES, AS YOU KNOW, THE FLORIDA TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE IS A STATE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICE AND OPERATES OFF THE FEES AND COMMISSIONS SET BY FLORIDA STATUTE. WE TRY TO EARN YOUR TRUST IN THE PUBLIC PUBLIC TRUST BY LOOKING FOR WAYS TO EARN REVENUE IN ORDER TO OFFSET THE EXPENSES WE COST YOU AND THE CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. HOW DO WE DO THIS? WE DO THIS BY HANDLING LARGE FLEETS SUCH AS UPS, FEDEX, MAY ALSO HANDLE ONE OF THE NATION'S LARGEST LIENS AND REPLACE LIENS ON VEHICLES, BOATS WE ALSO HANDLE ALL OF THE FLORIDA MOBILE HOME TITLE SERVICES WE HANDLE MOBILE HOME TITLE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STATE.

WE TRY OUR BEST TO OPERATE AND RETURN THIS REVENUE FOR YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION ÃNEXT TIME YOU SEE ONE OF THE EMPLOYEES OF THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE, JOHN THANK YOU BECAUSE I HAVE A CHART OR GRAPH OF WHAT THEY WERE GOING PTO PUT UP.

THIS SHOWS YOU THE TRANSACTIONS AND I KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THE SERVICES SOMEBODY SAID WHY DO YOU NEED BRICK-AND-MORTAR AND PONTE VEDRE THE OFFICES, THESE ARE ACTUAL TEST TRANSACTIONS RETOUCH PEOPLE'S LIVES AND WE HAVE TO DO WITH INDIVIDUALS BUT WE HANDLE A TOTAL OF ALMOST 700 TRANSACTIONALLY LAST YEAR, 65 EMPLOYEES, FOUR OFFICES PER PONTE VEDRE WE HAD 57,142 PEOPLE COME IN WITH A STAFF OF SIX PEOPLE.

DUPONT CENTER 68,037. I WOULD LOVE TO CALL YOUR CHILDREN TO TRANSACTIONS ON YOUR PART) THE MAIL AND THE INTERNET. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DRIVE SO THAT WE ARE NOT SO LABOR-INTENSIVE. WE ARE TRYING TO DRIVE INDIVIDUALS INTO USING MAIL OR PREFERABLY THE INTERNET NOW. YOU CAN SEE IS INCREASING AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE WANT TO GO EVENTUALLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME BUT WE ARE WORKING TOWARD THAT. ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO CALL Ã SHOW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE PIKE FAMILY PIE SHAPED IN THERE? IF YOU WILL LOOK STARTING ON THE RIGHT FROM 12:00 TO ABOUT 2:30, THESE ARE THE SERVICES THAT WE DO FOR THE CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND FOR YOU.

CURRENT TASK IS 126,002 13. DELINQUENT BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS, TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX, 16,281 TRANSACTIONS THE LAST YEAR. WHAT I WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO IS FROM THE 230 UNDER TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX ALL THE WAY TO ABOUT 1215, ALL IF THAT IS WORK THAT WE DO FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO YOU WILL SEE WITH DIVISION OF MEDICAL FIELDS 401,000, HUNTING AND FISHING, BIRTH CERTIFICATES, WE HANDLE 976,000 ARE ISSUED 960'S THOUSAND LAST YEAR CONCEALED WEAPON PERMIT, 2204 AND IT'S INTERESTING.

PROTEST ALONE OUT OF OUR OFFICE WITH 65 PEOPLE, THEY HANDLED 4027 ROAD TESTS.O WHEN YOU SEE THE EMPLOYEES OF THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE THANK THEM. ALSO SPEAKING OF ROAD TEST WE ARE THE ONLY OFFICE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE IN THE STATE DOES NOT SEND THE MOM AND DAD WAY WITH THE TEENAGER WHO WANTS TO GET THERE DRIVING LICENSE. WE DO THE ROAD TEST AND WE ARE THE ONLY OFFICE IN THE STATE THAT HAS BEEN AT YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD SO THAT WE KNOW

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YOUR TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE IS IN EVERY HIGH SCHOOL BOARD PHASE 1 WHICH IS LEARNERS PERMIT, PHASE 2 WHICH IS BEHIND THE WHEELS AND NOW THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS USING YOUR TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE TO DISASSEMBLY AND TO CHANGE THE TESTING STATEWIDE.

WE ARE ALSO ON A PILOT LEARNING STAGE WITH THE STATE AND THE EXAMINER'S WILL ACTUALLY GET IN THE CAR WITH A LAPTOP COMPUTER TO GRADE THE INDIVIDUALS IN COMMON AND DOWNLOADED IN THE SYSTEM. WE ARE ON THE CUTTING EDGE FOR YOU AND ALSO FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THIS TIME TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK WE JUST COLLECT TAXES AND WE DO AND WE ARE HONORED AND PROUD WE COULD DO THAT FOR YOU AND WE HAVE A BETTER THAN A 99.8 PERCENT ELECTION RATE FOR YOU AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I KNOW YOUR COLLEAGUES AROUND THE STATE AS WELL AS MINE ARE CONSTANTLY BEING BOMBARDED WITH TOURIST DEVELOPMENT AND COMPLIANCE AND AT AIRBNB.

I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU IN CLOSING AND I DON'T HAVE THIS READY FOR YOU BUT I WILL BE GLAD TO SEND IT TO YOU. BACK IN THE CLOTHES OF THE FISCAL YEAR FOR SEPTEMBER 17, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 613 TOURIST DEVELOPMENT ACCOUNTS ON HAND AND WE WERE COLLECTING 10,135,000. THEN WE STARTED ÃWE COULD DO THIS BETTER AND WE WERE TALKING DO WE SIGN WITH AIRBNB AND YOUR ATTORNEY HAS HELPED US WITH THIS TO NAVIGATE TO THIS.

WE FINALLY DECIDED TO GO WITH HOPES COMPLIANCE WITH A NOTIFY US WHO HAVE EVERY INDIVIDUAL THAT LISTS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL WERE NOTIFIED OF THAT. THEREFORE FROM 613 IN THE MIDDLE OF 2018, WE STARTED WORKING WITH HOST COMPLIANCE. OUR TRANSACTIONS OR POWER ACCOUNTS FOR TOURIST DEVELOPMENT WENT UP TO 855 OR COLLECTION OF 11.3 MILLION.

THIS YEAR I'M GLAD TO LET YOU KNOW THAT OF THE CURRENT TIME AND I WALKED AWAY FROM THE OFFICE THIS MORNING WE HAD 3046 ACTIVE ACCOUNTS AT THE CLOTHES OF THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR WE COLLECTED 12,200 $64,732.24 INTEREST DEVELOPMENT TAX OVER MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

WE ARE HONORED TO SERVE YOU. WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER BUT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE YOU PROUD OF THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE IN THE STATE AND THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME.O YOU HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS OF ME? >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER JOBS? >> I WANT TO START BY SAYING THANK YOU. WHILE YOUR TITLE MAY BE TAX COLLECTOR YOU ARE MORE OF A TAX SAVER. YOU COME UP WITH INNOVATIVE WAYS TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES MINIMIZE THEIR COST. YOU PROVIDE EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE.

YEARS AGO I LIVED IN JACKSONVILLE AND I WOULD COME TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR ANY SERVICES THAT I COULD RECEIVE TO THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE BECAUSE I KNEW ABOUT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THE EFFICIENCY WITH WHICH YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION, EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE DESERVES THESE ACCOLADES. IT'S NOT A ONE-MAN SHOP, AS YOU KNOW. WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AS AN ELECTED SERVICE IN OUR COMMUNITY. SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN IN THIS POSITION SINCE THEY WERE CLOSE TO 100,000 FEWER RESIDENTS WHEN HE FIRST STARTED. IT'S A TESTAMENT TO YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION'S ABILITY TO ADJUST TO THE CHANGES OF A GROWING COMMUNITY AND I AM HERE TO SAY THANK YOU PERSONALLY AS A RESIDENT OF THE COUNTY FOR THE SERVICE THAT YOU AND EVERYBODY PROVIDES TO OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED.

IT'S NOT EASY. AS I UNDERSTAND THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST COLLECTION RATES OF THE REQUIRED TAXES COMPARED TO OTHER COUNTIES IN THE ENTIRE STATE. WHICH YOU DON'T BRAG ABOUT YOURSELF OR YOUR SERVICES, YOU JUST DO YOUR JOB. ANYTIME I HAVE EVER BEEN IN THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE WITHIN THE COUNTY I DON'T GO IN THERE AND RECOGNIZE ÃI LET THEM KNOW WHO I AM.

I GOING WITH A HAT AND SUNGLASSES IF I COULD BUT THAT MIGHT MAKE PEOPLE NERVOUS.

BUT THE SERVICE IS BAR NONE ABOVE ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITY AS A TAX COLLECTOR THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED THROUGHOUT THE STATE. SO IT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE THAT YOU AND YOUR EMPLOYEES PROVIDE TO US, YOUR INFORMATION IS ALWAYS TIMELY, IS ACCURATE, YOU DO WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO SO WE DON'T GET ASKED THE TOUGH QUESTIONS TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND SAY WHAT ABOUT THIS AND WHAT ABOUT THIS ON A CONSISTENT BASIS.

YOU ARE ADDING IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY CLOSE TO $1.6 BILLION THROUGH THE FUNDS AVAILABLE THAT MEANS A LOT. THAT CAN GO BACK INTO NEEDED SERVICES SUCH AS THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE INDIVIDUALS WHO VOLUNTEER FOR THE SERVICES THAT WERE RECOGNIZED AT THE PROCLAMATIONS. THE MATRICULATION OF DOLLARS

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PROVIDE TO OUR OUR COMPANY. >> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE LEADERSHIP THAT YOU SHOW ME.

LEADERSHIP IS DIFFICULT. YOU TAKE OFFICE IN DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES YOU HAVE DONE IT WITH AGILITY, YOU'VE ADOPTED, YOU HAVE DONE IT WITH A STRONG WORK ETHIC AND YOU DONE IT VERY DIFFICULT TIMES.PPRECIATE THE LEADERSHIP THAT YOU DEMONSTRATED.

I THINKIT'S AN EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU CAN TAKE AN OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT THAT'S NOTORIOUSLY BUREAUCRATIC AND BRING IN INNOVATION, ADAPTABILITY, AGILITY TO THESE PROCESSES.

WOULD YOU THANK YOU AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE FAMILIES OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY THAT RELY ON YOU AND YOUR OFFICE TO GET THIS JOB DONE. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND I APPRECIATE THAT OF YOUR EMPLOYEES. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH: MR. HOLLINGSWORTH, I THINK IT IS WORTHY OF REDUNDANCY.

EVEN YOUR LETTERHEAD SAYS INNOVATION AND INTEGRITY AND EXPERTISE.

NOT ONLY IS THAT INDICATIVE OF YOUR OFFICE, IT'S INDICATIVE OF YOU AND IT PERMEATES.HANK YOU FOR YOUR STEWARDSHIP. THE STEWARDSHIP OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS BUT ALSO THE TALENTS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE TALENTS OF THOSE IN YOUR PEOPLE IN YOUR OFFICE AND YOUR FAITHFULNESS TO THIS COMMUNITY BUT ALSO TO THE LORD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEVOTION.

YOUR DEVOTION TO THIS COMMUNITY I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION AND LENGTH OF TIME IN SERVICE YOUR HUSBHAS BEEN IMPECCABLE. LOTS OF PEOPLE DON'T RECOGNIZE YOUR CREATIVITY AND PROMOTING THINGS ALONG THE WAY THAT ROK FIRST AND THIS STATEMENT HAS SAVED US MONEY AS TAXPAYERS BUT ALSO JUST DEMONSTRATING YOUR WILLINGNESS TO STEP OUTSIDE THE BOX AND NOT BE SATISFIED WITH THE STATUS QUO. I HOPE FOLKS REALLY DO RECOGNIZE YOUR VALUE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WE LOVE YOU AND APPRECIATE.

>> >> WHAT THEY SAID. >> THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: THAT'S ALL INSIDE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR FAMILY'S FRIENDSHIP OVER THE YEARS.

AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR STAFF AND EVERYBODY IS NICE ESPECIALLY THE GENTLEMAN I CALLED LAST WEEK BECAUSE I TRIED ANYTHING THIS YEAR. I MAILED MY STUFF AND I DIDN'T KNOW IT CAME IN THE MAIL MY DAUGHTER PUT ALL THE STICKERS ON EVERYTHING THAT GOD DID TELL ME I CALLED AND SAID I HAVEN'T GOT MY STICKERS. SHE SAID WE HADN'T HAD ANY RETURNED MAIL BUT IF YOU COME WE WILL GIVE YOU ALL THE STICKERS AND I WENT AND LOOKED AT MY CAR FELT LIKE AN IDIOT BECAUSE ALL THE STICKERS HAVE BEEN CHANGED ON THE BOATS AND

EVERYTHING ELSE. >> SPEAKER: YOU ARE NOT BY YOURSELF.

>> SPEAKER: OKAY. THE EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU GO IN THERE AND I TELL PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE AN ISSUE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT AND YOU TELL THEM TO GO UP AND SEE YOU OR YOUR STAFF THEY TAKE GREAT CARE OF THEM AND I NEVER HEARD BACK ANYTHING NEGATIVE, AND IS APPRECIATIVE.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

IF I CAN HELP WITH ANYTHING, YOU LET ME KNOW. >> SPEAKER: ON TO NUMBER TWO.

>> SPEAKER: I AM PREPARED IF WE ARE READY. MOTION TO APPROVE THE TOTAL EARNED AND USED IN A DISTRIBUTED REVENUE COLLECTED FOR THE 2018, 2019 TAX YEAR.

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THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS OF THE NORTH FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. LRTP. THEY ARE REQUIRED TO UPDATE THE LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN EVERY FIVE YEARS. ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS PART OF THE REGION AND THEREFORE DURING THE PAST 12 MONTHS STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE TPO STAFF IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THE LRTP. AS A RESULT, THE LRTP REDUCES TO PLANS, THE NEEDS PLAN AND THE COST FEASIBLE PLAN. THE NEEDS PLAN LOOKS AT THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS BY THE YEAR 2045. WITHOUT REGARD TO COST. THE COST FEASIBLE PLAN LOOKS AT THE POTENTIAL FUNDING STREAMS COMING TO THE REGION. THEREFORE THE PLAN INCLUDES A SMALL NUMBER OF PROJECTS ON THE LIST. WHAT IT MEANS TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS THAT WE USE THE LRTP IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY FUNDING REQUESTS FOR FEDERAL AND STATE

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AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, IT WILL BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THE COMMISSION TO PROVIDE ANY FEEDBACK, COMMENTS, OR RAISE ANY CONCERNS SO THAT WE CAN CONVEY THAT TO THE TPO BOARD. THE TPO BOARD WILL TAKE ACTIONS ON THE COST FEASIBLE PLAN NEXT THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 14. WITH THAT I WILL ASK MR. PAIGE TO COME FORWARD.

>> SPEAKER: I AM JENISE WITH THE NORTH PORT OF TPO 980 NORTH JEFFERSON ST., JACKSONVILLE AND I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING US TIME ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY AND I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PARTICIPATION IN ALL OF OUR PLANNING EFFORTS IN THE PARTICIPATION OF YOUR STAFF BECAUSE WE COULDN'T DO THIS PLAN OR ANY OF THE OTHER PLANNING ACTIVITIES WE DO WITHOUT HAT HELP. THAT SAID, NEXT WEEK WE WILL ADOPT THIS PLAN. IN DECEMBER WE WILL BEGIN THE DEVELOPMENT OF ANNUAL LIST PARTY PRODUCTS FOR 2020 SO WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU AND ASKING YOU TO TELL US WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE FROM THE LONG-RANGE PLAN FOR THE LIST THAT WE WILL SUBMIT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR INCLUSION TO PROJECTS IN THE NEW YEAR WITH THE WORK PROGRAM. WE WILL ALSO COME BACK AND ASK YOU IN DECEMBER TO START THINKING ABOUT THE STUDIES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE ANY FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING JULY 1 BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE A COMPLETE DRAFT OF OUR UNIFIED PLANNING. OUR WORK PROGRAM WHICH IS OUR DRAFT BUDGET OUR WORKING BUDGET TO DOT BY MARCH 15. WE REALLY WILL HAVE THESE TWO EFFORTS ONGOING SIMULTANEOUSLY AND VERY SHORT TIMEFRAME. JUST HAVE THAT IN YOUR MIND GOING FORWARD AND WE WILL BE ASKING TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS IN DECEMBER WITHOUT EVELYN RILEY

SPEAK. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING AND I AM WALLY PAGE WITH ACTIONS AT 600 DIX ELLIS TRAIL IN JACKSONVILLE AND HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION AND WE HAVE A GREAT SHORT VIDEO ABOUT TWO MINUTES LONGER GIVES A GREAT OVERVIEW OF THE LONG-RANGE PLAN I BELIEVE I HEARD A PLANE EARLIER THIS MORNING SO I THINK IF WE CLICK THIS BUTTON HERE IT'S GOING TO PLAY FOR US. THE NORTH FLORIDA REGION IS GROWING.

BY THE YEAR 2045, WE WILL HAVE OVER 2 MILLION RESIDENTS. WHEN YOU AT THE PEOPLE AND GOODS THAT WILL TRAVEL THROUGH OUR AREA, OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM COULD BECOME GRIDLOCKED IF THINGS DON'T CHANGE. INNOVATION IS DRIVING CHANGE AT AN INCREASINGLY RAPID PACE AND OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, THE WAY WE TRAVEL WILL CHANGE DRAMATICALLY.

CHILDREN BORN TODAY MAY NEVER LEARN TO DRIVE OR OWN A VEHICLE.

INSTEAD, THEY WILL SUBSCRIBE TO A MOBILITY SERVICE WHERE THEY CAN SELECT THE MODE OR VEHICLES AND REQUEST SERVICE THROUGH AN APP INCREASES IN E-COMMERCE, DIGITAL LEARNING, AND REMOTE WORKERS WILL CHANGE WHEN AND WHY WE TRAVEL. THE NORTH FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION IS DEVELOPING THE PATH FORWARD 2045 LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN TO ADDRESS THESE CHANGES. WE ARE THE INDEPENDENT TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AGENCY FOR OUR REGION WORKING WITH OUR PARTNER AGENCIES, BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND THE PUBLIC WE ARE DEVELOPING A PLAN THAT EMBRACES INNOVATION TO ENHANCE MOBILITY. THE PLAN WILSTIONS INCLUDING HOW WILL WE CONTINUE TO CONNECT PEOPLE TO JOBS, SHOPPING, EDUCATION AND HEALTHCARE? REDUCE CONGESTION AND MAINTAIN OUR ECONOMIC COMPETITIVENESS AS A FREIGHT AND LOGISTICS HUB PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION CHOICES AND ENSURE STREETS ARE SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE FOR EVERYONE WHETHER THEY ARE DRIVING, BIKING OR WALKING. IN SHORT OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IS SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT. YOUR INPUT IS CRITICAL IN DECIDING HOW AND WHERE WE SHOULD INVEST FOR THE FUTURE. JOIN US AS WE FORGE A PATH TO

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VISIT PATH FORWARD 2045.COM TO LEARN HOW YOU CAN HELP SHAPE THE FUTURE.

>> SPEAKER: SO THAT'S A VIDEO WE HAVE DEVELOPED A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO TO HELP GETTING PEOPLE TO COME OUT. IT'S PART OF A BIGGER REGION OF THE TPO SERVICE WHICH INCLUDES CLAY, DUFAULT AND NASSAU COUNTIES AS WELL. EVERY TPO MPO AROUND THE COUNTRY HAS TO DO ONE OF THESE IN ORDER TO RECEIVE STATE AND FEDERAL DOLLARS AND ASSESS PRIORITIES ON HOW THOSE DOLLARS WOULD BE SENT. IT SERVES AS A BLUEPRINT FOR THE REGION. HOW ARE WE GOING TO SPEND THAT MONEY AND CREATE AND MAINTAIN.

WE LOOK AT CURRENT AND FUTURE NEEDS SO WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF AND ALL THE OTHER STAFF AROUND THE REGION LOOKING AT WHERE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO OCCUR AND WHAT LEVELS WILL IT OCCUR AND WHEN DO WE THINK IT WILL OCCUR IN ORDER TO CREATE THAT 2045 COST FEASIBLE PLAN AND AGAIN, IT'S A MULTI-LIST OF PRODUCTS AND PROGRAMS THE VIDEO MENTIONED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS CHANGING WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION SPACE AND A LOT IF THAT IS GOING TO BE DEALT WITH WITH PROGRAMS WITH RESILIENCY AND SMART TECHNOLOGY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THIS IS UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WE DO THE BEST TO FORECAST THE GROWTH IN OUR CRYSTAL BALL HAS A LOT OF MONEY.T'S NEEDED TO BE REVISITED EVERY FIVE YEARS TO MAKE SURE THIS FORECAST ARE AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE AND THIS ONE BEGINS TO LOOK AT THE CHANGE IN MOBILITY TRENDS WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO GO TO SOME LEVEL OF AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WE WILL HAVE LESS VEHICLES ON THE ROAD YOU MAY HAVE MORE TRIPS WE MADE BECAUSE YOU WON'T HAVE TO DRIVE. SO FOLKS THAT HAVE MOBILITY CHALLENGES NOW MAY SEE THE MOBILITY OPTIONS INCREASE WHICH IS A VERY POSITIVE THING.

WE HAVE A LOT OF MATERIALS ONE OF THE WAYS WE WILL DO THAT IS THROUGH THE ADVANCEMENT OF TECHNOLOGY AND VARIOUS TECHNOLOGY SAFETY ASPECTS. WE ARE MOVING THROUGH THE TPO WILL BE TAKING ACTION ON THE FINAL ELEMENT OF THIS THE COST FEASIBLE PLAN NEXT WEEK.

WE HAVE DEVELOPED GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FORECAST AND DATA DEVELOPED A VERY LONG LIST OF NEEDED PROJECTS AND REALITY CAME IN AND LOOKED AT THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AND NOW WE ARE WHITTLING BACK DOWN TO A DRAFT COST FEASIBLE POINT.

WE HAVE SEVERAL BILLION DOLLARS, $25 BILLION IN NEEDS AND ABOUT $5 BILLION TO MEET THOSE NEEDS. SO THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON, UNFORTUNATELY, AS YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD A BEER AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY WERE WE SEEM TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE NEEDED IN THE TRANSPORTATION REALM, THIS IS ALL BASED ON GAS TAX AND THAT'S A DECLINE IN REVENUE. SO IT BECOMES MORE CHALLENGING EVERY FIVE YEARS.

ANY TPO DOSES. HOW DO WE DEVELOP A BALANCED SYSTEM? WE BELIEVE WITH THE PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS WE'VE IDENTIFIED IS RELATIVELY BALANCED.

ETIQUETTE PEOPLE THROUGHOUT INTO AND THROUGHOUT THE REGION AND EXPANDING THIS MOBILITY OPTIONS AND BEGINNING TO LOOK AT HOW TECHNOLOGY WILL INFLUENCE OUR FUTURE.

ONE OF THE REALITIES WE ARE DEALING WITH HERE HOPEFULLY THESE NUMBERS WILL BEGIN TO CHANGE OVER TIME. 91 PERCENT OF THE FOLKS ÃTHIS IS ALMOST 18 MONTHS OLD NOW HERE IN THE REGION 91 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE DRIVE ALONE AND YOU CAN SEE HOW IT GOES DOWN FROM THERE OR CALL PROBABLY BIKING IN TRANSIT. THESE ARE NUMBERS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGED TO THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED.

ONE OF THE OTHER CHALLENGES WE HAVE HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN PARTICULAR ÃI KNOW MY COMMUTE FROM HERE TO WORK IS ABOUT 25 MILES AWAY. THAT IS SOMETHING THIS REGION STRUGGLES WITH OF HOW TO GET THESE COMMUTING DISTANCES DOWN. AGAIN THE CHANGES IN TECHNOLOGY AND THE WORKFORCE, WE MAY SEE SOME OF THOSE NEEDS FOR PEOPLE TO COMMUTE EVERY SINGLE DAY

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SOME OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE SOME TIME BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY IT TAKES ANYWHERE FROM 15 TO 20 YEARS SOMETIMES TO GET THESE ON THE GROUND.

THE WIDENING OF STATE ROAD 16, STATE ROAD TWO OVER 207. VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN CREATING THAT ADDITIONAL NORTH /SOUTH ROADWAY. A1A, IMPROVEMENTS TO REGULAR AND INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS OVER IN SOUTH ST. AUGUSTINE AND DEVELOPMENT OF MULTIMODAL WAY A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THAT. ST. AUGUSTINE HAS ENVISIONED OUTLINE PARKING GARAGES AND THIS WOULD BE A MULTI-MODEL WAY THAT WOULD CONNECT THEM AND ULTIMATELY RUN AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES FOR AUTONOMOUS BUSES OR SHUTTLES UP AND DOWN BACK. A PROJECT THAT'S NEW TO THE PLAN THIS YEAR IS LOOKING AT A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO HOW WE CAN POSSIBLY CONNECT THE ST. JOHN'S ÃST. AUGUSTINE AIRPORT SO FROM U.S. WENT OVER TO I-95 AND POTENTIAL NEW INTERCHANGE.

THIS IS JUST A FEASIBILITY STUDY. ALL OF THE REST OF THE PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS I HAVE SHOWN HERE ARE FUNDED THROUGH CONSTRUCTION OR IMPLEMENTATION.

THIS ONE IS JUST TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO SEE IF THE CONNECTION IS EVEN POSSIBLE.

TO DEFINE WHAT THE IMPACTS COULD BE TOO BE 11 MILES LONG AND WHETHER OR NOT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE OVERCOME OR MITIGATED. COUNTY ROAD 2209 CONTINUING WIDENING THAT RACETRACK ROAD WIDENING OVER THE INTERSTATE. INTERCHANGE RAMPS AT U.S. 1 AND 210 COMMUTER RAIL COMING DOWN FROM JACKSONVILLE INTO ST. AUGUSTIE CONTINUED CONSTRUCTION OF THE EXPRESSWAY WHICH WILL ULTIMATELY TIE INTO I-95 AND THEN THERE'S A NUMBER OF I-95 PROJECTS THAT DOT HAS FUNDING FOR INCLUDING WIDENING AND CONTINUED MODIFICATION OF THE STATE ROAD 16 INTERCHANGE. I MENTIONED SOME OF THE PROGRAMS. THESE ARE GOING TO BE BUNDLED AND FOCUSED INTO CERTAIN AREAS WHERE WE REALLY CAN'T DO ANYMORE ROADWAY OR PROBABLY SHOULDN'T DO ANYMORE SO COMPLETE STREET PROGRAMS WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THESE THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN ST. AUGUSTINE.

I MENTIONED THE SAFETY PROGRAM LOOKING AT WAYS TO MAKE THE ROADWAY SAFER FOR ALL USERS AND BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN PROGRAM THAT WILL PROVIDE FUNDING TO IMPLEMENT PROJECTS WITHIN THE BIKE PED MASTER PLAN. THE TPO RECENTLY DEVELOPED AND ADOPTED THE GREENWAY AND TRAILS MASTER PLAN THAT HAS A NUMBER OF TRAILS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THIS WILL BE FUNDING FOR THAT.

OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS TO GET AS MUCH OUT OF THE SYSTEM AS WE CAN BECAUSE WE HAVE MANY MORE NEEDS THAN WE WILL EVER BE ABLE TO FUND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE EXISTING SYSTEM BOTH OPERATES EFFICIENTLY AND SAFELY. A NEW PROGRAM IS A RESILIENCY PROGRAM. YOU'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING.

THIS WOULD BE A PROGRAM THAT COULD GO IN AND YOUR EXISTING TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM MAKE THIS A HARDENED SYSTEM OR MORE RESILIENT ESPECIALLY FOR SEALEVEL RISE AND THEN FREED ENHANCEMENT PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS TO GET FREIGHT AND GOODS MOVING EFFICIENTLY AND SAFER TO THE AREA. NOVEMBER 14 WITH THE TPO WILL BE TAKING ACTION ON THIS BUT WEDNESDAY OF THIS WEEK WHICH IS TOMORROW NOW, THE TPO, THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE AND CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE WILL BE TAKING A LOOK AT THIS AND YOU HAVE REPRESENTATIVES ON BOTH OF THOSE COMMITTEES. SO THE RECOMMENDATION WILL BE CARRIED FORWARD TO THE 14.

AND SO WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE'S OUR CONTACT INFORMATION AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER

ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY MIGHT HAVE AT THIS TIME. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: JUST A QUICK ONE.

ON AN EARLIER SLIDE, 207 WIDENING. IS THAT LIKE WIDENING THE

EXISTING FOUR-LANE OR ADDING A COUPLE OF LEADS FOR >> SPEAKER: IT WOULD BE

WIDENING THE EXISTING BORLASE. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: NOT SIX LANE, NECESSARILY? STATEMENT RIGHT NOW, IT'S ENVISIONED AS ADDING ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION SO MAKING IT A SICK FLAMEAWAY. THERE WILL HAVE TO BE STUDIES Ã THIS IS THE FIRST EFFORT OR FIRST STEP IN DEVELOPING THESE PROJECTS, SO THE ROADWAY PROJECTS, THERE'S FOUR GENERAL STEPS THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH. ONCE THEY ARE IN THE LONG-RANGE PLAN YOU MAY RECEIVE A PRIORITY FOR ME TPO AND FUNDING, THE THREE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AND ARE AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY TO LOOK AT THE IMPACTS AND MITIGATION WAS A POSTER THAT AND WE WOULD GO INTO THE ENGINEERING DESIGN RIGHT AWAY AND CONSTRUCTION. SO THERE COULD BE ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP AS PART OF THAT PNE STUDY AND OR DESIGN THAT COULD NOT BE OVERCOME AND THEN

THE SIX LANE Ã >> COMMISSIONER DEAN: THERE ARE SEVERAL OF US THAT GO BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS JANUARY 2, 2007 WAS JUST A 2 LANE RD. .

IT GOT PRETTY BUSY. BUT NOW SINCE IT'S BEEN FOUR LANES ALL THE WAY FROM PALATKA TO ST. AUGUSTINE, I FIND I DRIVE IT MORE OR LESS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

THAT IS TODAY PRETTY EASY TO DRIVE, NOT TOO CONGESTED, BUT I JUST ÃTHAT SORT OF ANECDOTAL.

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WHEN I'M THERE, I LIKE THE FOUR LANES. >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER JOHNS?

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNS: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THIS IS VERY HELPFUL.

HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND TAKES FOR THE LONG-RANGE PLANNING TO YOUR POINT, EXPECTATIONS CHANGE, TECHNOLOGY CHANGES. THIS IS ONE OF MANY WAYS THAT GOVERNMENT AND MULTIPLE LEVELS COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND ADJUST TO THE EXPECTATIONS AND ADAPTATIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US, AND I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE MEETINGS. THEY ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, THEY ARE MONTHLY, THEY DON'T LAST A LONG TIME. I'M THANKFUL TO BE A PART OF THE TPO AND TO REPRESENT THE COUNTY IN THAT ORGANIZATION AND GLADLY WILL CONNECT PEOPLE WITH THE EXPERTS WHO HAVE DETAILS FOR THESE OR OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED. BUT THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE BEGINNING OF A PROCESS, THE END OF THE PROCESS IS THE FUN PART YOU GET TO SEE THE CONSTRUCTION AND PEOPLE ENJOY THE RESULTS SUCH AS 9B. THE IMMEDIATE IMPACT TO 9B TO PEOPLE WAS FELT AND MOST OF THEM HAVE NO IDEA WHY TRAFFIC WAS SUDDENLY LIGHTER ON SPECIFIC PARTS OF 210. THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS AVAILABLE TO THEM AS AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE. THOSE ALTERNATIVE ROUTES ENABLE US TO MOVE LARGE AMOUNTS OF TRAFFIC AS WE DO GROW AND CHANGE. THE TRANSPORTATION METHODS CHANGE. AND I WANT TO JUST THANK YOU WITH YOUR ORGANIZATION THE TPO AND THE OTHERS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR DOWN THE ROAD.

2045 FEELS LIKE AN ETERNITY FOR MOST PEOPLE BUT IF WE DON'T START TODAY MAKING THOSE PLANS AND ADJUSTING IT EVERY SO OFTEN, THE RESULTS ARE NEVER AS GOOD AS THE PROPER PLANNING AND BY INCLUDING OTHERS IN THAT CONVERSATION EARLY ON, WE BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR PEOPLE'S EXPECTATIONS, WHETHER IT'S AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT CAN OFTEN BE A THANKLESS TASK THAT PEOPLE ONCE IT'S EXPERIENCED YEARS AWAY WON'T EVER RECOGNIZE AND REMEMBER THIS CONVERSATION WERE THE EFFORTS THAT ARE PUT INTO IT. I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU FOR THE TIME AND YOUR EXPERTISE AND YOUR EXPLANATION OF A VERY COMPLICATED PROCESS AND A VERY UNDERSTANDABLE WAY, EVEN PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS. IT CAN SEEM DAUNTING AT TIMES TO ACHIEVE GOALS IN A RAPIDLY GROWING COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S HANDLED VERY WELL AND IS VERY EQUITABLE AMONG THE COUNTIES IN OUR REGION. WORKING WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND COUNSEL PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTIES IT'S NOT A COMPETITION. IT'S A COLLABORATION THAT WILL BENEFIT. GUIDING US THROUGH THESE PROCESSES SO EFFECTIVELY.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. WE WILL OPEN UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> SPEAKER: OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. VIVIAN BROWN AND I'M HERE TODAY AS CHAIR OF THE VILANO TRAIL TOWN AWARDED TO US BY THE GREENWAYS AND TRAILS. IN OUR VISIONING ENTRAILS APPEARED BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND ADOPTED WE INCLUDED WALKABLE RIDEABLE BIKE RIDEABLE COMMUNITY AND IT'S BEEN ON OUR PLAN ALL ALONG. WE HAVE HAD SOME HEAVY LIFTING WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE TOWN CENTER AND AS THE YEARS WENT BY, WE WERE AWARE OF THE EAST COAST GREENWAY GOING FROM MAINE TO KEY WEST AND WE WANTED TO BE A PART OF IT.

WE DID OUR LONG-RANGE PLANNING AND WE HAD A CONCERN THIS SUMMER BUT COUNTY STAFF, THANKS TO COMMISSIONER DEAN AND HIS LEADERSHIP AND ALSO COMMISSIONER BLOCKER WE ARE ALSO IN COMMISSIONER BLOCKER'S DISTRICT FOR OUR SECTION OF THE EAST COAST GREENWAY FROM MY COURSE TO VILANO SO I THINK WE ARE ON TRACK NOW. WHAT I WOULD ASK YOU ALL IS Ã OR REMIND ÃI HAVE BEEN TO THE TPO MEETING.S YOU WELL KNOW, I OWN A LITTLE BIT OF FACEBOOK STOCK, BUT I MORE IN YOUR FACE THEN ON FACEBOOK. I TRIED TO GO TO THE MEETINGS AND LEARN WHAT I SEE HERE IS CITIZENS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED FOR 20 YEARS IN VILANO AND WE NEED TO HAVE A PART IN THIS FEASIBILITY THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO THE COUNTY FOR OUR SECTION OF THE EAST COAST GREENWAY AND A MULTIUSE TRAIL. SO I'M ASKING FOR OF THE TPO AND HANSEN, ATKINS, WHAT I'VE NOTED IN THE TPO IS THAT THERE'S A LACK OF ADVICE TO THE

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AGAIN, WE WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM THE TPO OR THE COUNTY OR THEY CONSULTED TO HAVE SOME INPUT. AGAIN, THANK YOU. I THINK WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. I THINK OUR COMMUNITY IS BETTER REPRESENTATIVE ÃREPRESENTED BECAUSE OF THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE THIS SUMMER IN HELPING US OUT.

THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

TO THEM? WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> SPEAKER: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY AND PRESENTING AND I APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.

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>> MOVING ON TO TO 2B. >> SPEAKER: MICHLARS LANDING. >> SPEAKER: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A COUPLE OF ADMINISTRATIVE QUESTIONS. THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD LIKE TO START IT. DEFINITELY I THINK SOME OF US WERE CONTACTED LAST FRIDAY IN REGARD TO THIS AND YOU RESPONDED TO THIS IS TO COMMISSIONER BLOCKER AND MYSELF AN EMAIL AND THEN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH YOU SAID THE CONTRACTOR WILL HAVE THE RIGHT UNDER THE USE AGREEMENT TO CLOSE THE PARKING LOT ENTIRELY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

CAN YOU SHOW ME IN THE USE AGREEMENT WHERE THAT IS? >> SPEAKER: THAT'S REALLY THE OPERATIONAL AGREEMENT THAT WE ESTABLISHED UNDER THE USE AGREEMENT.

>> SPEAKER: I WANT TO GO BACK, AND I READ IT AGAIN LAST NIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS NOT WHAT I BELIEVE WE WERE SIGNING ONTO WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION OCTOBER 1. AND I GO BACK TO THE NONEXCLUSIVE PERMISSIVE USE AGREEMENT ON PAGE 2 HOURS OF USE.

I JUST WANT TO READ IT BECAUSE I DO NOT TAKE IT TO BE CLOSING IT DOWN.

AND THIS WOULD BE IN THE DOCUMENT AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS IT BUT THIS IS ON THE ORIGINAL WEBSITE, OCTOBER 1, THIS IS ANY SUPPORT MATERIALS THAT WE RECEIVED UNDER 3B. LET ME GO TO 3C. PUBLIC ACCESS FOR THE DURATION OF USE THE CONTRACTOR WILL ALLOW PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY ADDITIONALLY THE CONTRACTOR MAY STORE THE EQUIPMENT ON THE PROPERTY AND MUST TAKE ALL NECESSARY MEASURES TO SECURE THE EQUIPMENT FROM PUBLIC ACCESS. WANT TO BACK UP TWO HOURS OF USE. IN THE SECOND SENTENCE IT SAYS, IS EXPRESSLY NOTED THAT THE CONTRACTOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST OF RADIO, SIGNAGE, BARRICADES ETC. NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC DURING THE HOURS OF USE. WHEN I READ THAT, AND WHEN I READ IT AND VOTED IN A POSITIVE MANNER TOWARDS THIS, I TOOK THAT THIS WOULD BE OPEN.

AND EVEN END HEARING ASKED ÃIT WAS 25 PERCENT OF THE PARKING LOT WOULD BE USED EXCLUSIVELY FOR STORAGE OF EQUIPMENT AND MOVEMENT. I JUST ÃI DON'T SEE THAT HERE.

I'M READING SOMETHING INCORRECTLY? >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER, I THINK THE PROVISION YOU ARE REFERRING TO IS IN THE AGREEMENT AS OF OCTOBER 1. IT WAS EXPECTED THAT AS WE WORK THROUGH THE OPERATIONAL PLAN WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THERE WOULD BE REVISIONS TO THE PLAN AS NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE THE ACTIVITIES THE BOARD HAD AUTHORIZED. I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE PROVISIONS THAT HAS BEEN ALTERED AND BACK, ALTHOUGH PUBLIC ACCESS IS MAINTAINED THROUGH THE DURATION OF THE ACTIVITY. IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY WITH THIS CONTRACTOR IN A PREVIOUS RECORDS OR OUR EXPERIENCE THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE COULD AND WE SEEM TO HAVE COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON IT, TO SEPARATE THOSE ACTIVITIES SO THAT THE PUBLIC'S USE WOULD BE ON THE WEEKENDS AT A MINIMUM.

AND THEN THE CONTRACTORS USE WOULD BE LIMITED TO MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

WITHOUT INTERMINGLING THE BEACHGOERS WITH THAT ACTIVITY. THE THING THAT I BELIEVE WAS WORKED OUT WITH THE CONTRACTOR IS THAT HE WOULD THEN STORE HIS EQUIPMENT OFF-SITE ON A BEACH

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AND THEN THERE WOULD BE TIMES THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS THAT HE WILL NOT NEED TO BE ACTIVE IN A PARKING LOT AND IN THOSE CASES, IT WOULD THEN BE OPEN BACK UP TO THE PUBLIC DURING THE WEEK. BUT AS A MATTER OF COURSE THAT WOULD BE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY WOULD BE FOR THE CONTRACTOR'S USE AS WELL AS THE COUNTIES USE.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE ABILITY TO GET ON THEIR WALL IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND RENOVATIONS TO THE RESTROOMS AND SHOWERS IN THE ACTIVITIES THAT WOULD BE VALUABLE TO THE CITIZENS AS A WHOLE. SO THAT AT THE END OF THIS PROCESS, IT IS FULLY OPENED BACK UP AND IT WOULD HAVE A COMPLETELY UPGRADED FACILITY TO USE.

>> I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THIS RIGHT NOW BEFORE I ASKED MY NEXT QUESTION.

I GUARANTEE THAT WOULD HAVE INFLUENCED MY DECISION IF I HAD KNOWN THIS WAS HEADING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, TOTAL COMPLETE CLOSURE FOR FIVE DAYS A WEEK BECAUSE WHEN I READ THIS DOCUMENT HOURS OF USE, IT SAYS IN 3B FOR THE DURATION OF USE THE COUNTY AUTHORIZES THE CONTRACTOR UTILIZE THE PROPERTY FROM SUNRISE TO SUNSET SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

SO IT WAS DEFINITELY UNDERSTANDING THAT ALTHOUGH SOMEBODY HAS MODIFIED US ALONG THE WAY, IT DEFINITELY WAS NOT CLEAR TO ME WHEN I VOTED ON THIS TO ALLOW THIS USE AND COMPLETE CLOSURE. I DO WAT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

THE SECOND THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TOLD IN OUR ÃTHE PRESENTATION THIS WOULD BE A 45 TO 60 DAY PROJECT AND NOW SOMEBODY IS GOT TO TELL ME WITH THE MAP BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO FEBRUARY 2 IN TIME IF I DO 60 DAYS AS 8 TO 9 WEEKS FROM NOVEMBER 1 THAT ENDS UP AROUND JANUARY 1. NOW WE HAVE AN EXTRA MONTH. IF I READ THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION TO THIS SPORT, IT WAS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. IT WASN'T FIVE DAYS AWAY.

HOW ARE WE ON A BUSINESS DAY? IS THAT WHAT'S EXPANDED THIS DURATION OF PROJECT TO FEBRUARY

2? >> SPEAKER: I BELIEVE THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WE WOULD BE ÃTHEY WOULD BE WANTING TO CONSIDER ONLY DAYS WORKED AND THAT WOULD TAKE OUT DAYS OF NOR'EASTER'S AND HOLIDAYS AND DAYS OF VALENTINE'S AND IT BECAME AN ADMINISTRATIVE DIFFICULT THING TO TRACK AND IN CONCERT WITH OUR PARTS DEPARTMENT DETERMINING BEGINNING FEBRUARY WOULD BE A KEY TIME THAT THE PUBLIC 'S USE OF THE FACILITY IS WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO TARGET AND THAT WAS THE DATE THAT IS NOW IN THE AGREEMENT AND THAT'S ALSO INCLUSIVE OF ANY TYPES OF REPAIRS THAT THE CONTRACTOR, NOT JUST HIS WORK ACTIVITY BUT ALSO ANY REPAIRS TO THE FACILITY THAT WE WOULD THEN BE

REQUIRING. >> I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THE ONLY PREFERENCE ÃAND I WENT THROUGH IT AGAIN LAST NIGHT, THE ONLY REFERENCE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY WAS DELIVERIES FROM THE TRUCKING COMPANY. THAT WAS IT. WHEN I SAW THEY WERE GOING TO CLOSE IT DOWN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, THAT WAS A VERY STUNNING THING FOR ME.

I JUST ÃI WANT TO ASK THIS, COMMISSIONER CHAIRMAN, WHEN YOU SIGNED IT, YOU SIGNED THIS DOCUMENT AND IT HAS BEEN SIGNED, I PICKED IT UP FROM THE CLERK OF THE COURT.

WAS THERE A FILLED IN FROM THE DATES THAT THIS WAS TO OCCUR WHEN YOU SIGNED IT? OR WAS IT BLANK? IT WAS BLANK IN HOURS AND THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT ON PAGE 2 WHICH WOULD BE 38 DURATION OF USE THAT HAD A BEGINNING DATE AND A NEW DAY.

I THINK IT WAS BEING NEGOTIATED. >> THAT'S WHERE IT GETS VERY TOUGH FOR ME AND WE SIT THERE. THE INFORMATION IS GIVEN TO US TO ME HAS BEEN ALTERED AND AMENDED TO HER WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE BEEN FAVORABLE TO AND I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THAT BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN ÃI HAVE HAD SOME VERY ANGRY PEOPLE, BUT ALSO, IT ANGERED ME AND INCENSED ME THAT THIS NEGOTIATION WAS NOT 45 TO 60 DAYS.

IT WAS CALENDAR DAYS AS I ANTICIPATED. IT'S DEFINITELY SHUT DOWN AND A CLOSURE OF THE PARK THAT I THOUGHT WAS ONLY 25 PERCENT OF THE PARK.

I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THIS NEGOTIATION. I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT IT WAS NOT WHAT WE WERE FED TO START WITH. I WILL STOP THERE.

>> SPEAKER: ONE THING ON THAT. WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE DATES IF I'M REMEMBERING OUR

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THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. BUT WE WILL HEAR WHAT THE OTHER ÃCOMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> SPEAKER: I APPRECIATE IT. A COUPLE OF THINGS. COMMISSIONER SMITH HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB HIGHLIGHTING SOME THINGS. SO PART OF MY JOB AND MY CIVILIAN CAPACITY IN THE MILITARY CAPACITY IS TO REVEAL CONTRACTS.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE WAY PTHIS WENT THROUGH. IF I UNDERSTOD WE WERE GOING TO BE SHUTTING DOWN MICHAEL EHR BEACH FOR A WEEK AT A TIME I WOULD NOT HAVE AGREED TO THIS.

I THINK THE RESIDENCE HAD LEGITIMATE CONCERNS AND THEY WANTED TO PROTECT THEIR HOMES.

BUT GOING BACK AND REVIEWING THE TAPES I WANT TO MAKE A FEW POINTS AND KIND OF HIGHLIGHT SOME CONCERNS.Y UNDERSTANDING WAS IT WAS 25 PERCENT OF THAT USAGE, NOT 100 PERCENT. I DON'T THINK AT ANY POINT IN THIS DISCUSSION DID I UNDERSTAND AND IF I'M WRONG I WILL STAND CORRECTED ÃWE WERE SHUTTING DOWN MICHLAR BEACH.

MY CONCERN ABOUT THAT IS IF WE WERE DOING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC.

THE PUBLIC AND PONTE VEDRE SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE NOW WE ARE DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC THAT'S VERY UPSET, UNDERSTANDABLY, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS DURING THE BEACH DURING THE WEEK. I WOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY, FRANKLY. WE HAVE GOT TO COME UP WITH A BETTER SYSTEM IF WE ARE GOING TO SHUT DOWN A PUBLIC ACCESS POINT TO THE BEACH. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PUBLIC ACCESS AND PONTE VEDRE AS WE KNOW. WE HAD TO HAVE A BETTER PROCESS FOR THAT. THE PUBLIC WAS NOT MADE AWARE WHEN WE HAD THAT MEETING, AND I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LEGITIMATE THING TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC ABOUT.

WE LOOK TO YOU ALL ON STAFF TO HELP US WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S A MAJOR CONCERN OF MINE THAT WE ARE GOING TO SHUT DOWN AN ACCESS POINT TO THE BEACH AND NOT NOTIFY THE PUBLIC ABOUT THAT'S ADDICTED COME IN HERE AND WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS EXACTLY WHAT THE CHAIRMAN AND THE VICE CHAIR SAID THAT IT WAS 45 DAYS.

MR. SCOTT PHILLIPS CAME IN AND MR. PHILLIPS IS A VERY FINE MAN.

HE'S A PROPERTY OWNER WORRIED ABOUT HIS PROPERTY AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

HE'S NOT THE PROBLEM HERE. MR. PHILLIPS CAME IN AND SAID THEY WOULD BE 45 DAYS.

THAT'S WHAT HE REPRESENTED HER IN TESTIMONY. AND THEN WE ADDED MY RECOLLECTION FROM GOING BACK AND READING THE AGREEMENTS WE WERE GOING TO ADD 15 DAYS, EXACTLY WHAT THE CHAIRMAN SAID. NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT A DATE IN FEBRUARY.

SOME OF THIS IS REPETITIVE WHAT MR. SMITH HAS SAID AND NOW WE HAVE A VERY UPSET PUBLIC WHO UNDERSTANDABLY IS VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THIS PROCESS. I DON'T FEEL THIS IS WHAT WE AGREED TO WHEN WE DID THIS. AND ON FRIDAY, I HAVE LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY REACHING OUT VERY UPSET, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT. UNFORTUNATELY I WAS ON THE WAY OUT OF TOWN AND I WASN'T ABLE TO FULLY ENGAGE IN THIS. I APPRECIATE MR. WANCHICK REACHING OUT.

THIS IS NOT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WERE AGREEING TO. AGAIN, WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WAS HERE. AGAIN, IF THE IDEA WAS WE WERE GOING TO SHUT DOWN THE WHOLE BEACH FOR A WEEK AT A TIME, WE NEED TO LET THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THAT SO THEY CAN COME IN AND TELL US BECAUSE WHEN WE MAKE A DECISION HERE WE ARE NOT HAVING ALL THE INFORMATION. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THE PUBLIC ÃMY CONSTITUENTS AND LET ME KNOW THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF. THERE'S A BALANCE HERE. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A GROUP OF RESIDENTS TRYING TO PRESERVE THEIR HOMES. WE ALSO HAVE RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE THEM WITH ANSWERS THAT THEY NEED AND DEMAND AND BEING A VERY LIMITED ACCESS TO THE BEACH AND PONTE VEDRE THIS IS CRITICAL. SO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT GOING FORWARD HAVE A SPLIT ÃI'M NOT ACCUSING HER IN ANY WAY CALLING STEP OUT BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT I UNDERSTAND WE WERE GOING TO IF I'M WRONG I STAND CORRECTED.

THIS WAS ÃAGAIN LET ME HIGHLIGHT, 25 PERCENT OF THE BEACH OR THE ACCESS POINT WOULD BE OFF-LIMITS TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THEY WERE GOING TO WORK DURING THE WEEK AS WELL JUST AS COMMISSIONER SMITH SAID IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONTRACT TALKS ABOUT SANDALWOOD DURING REPEATED FROM READING THAT CORRECTLY.

I DO THAT FOR A LIVING SO HOPEFULLY I READ THE CONTRACT RIGHT.

I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE I THINK JUST FROM AN IMPARTIAL OBSERVER I'M NOT GOING TO GET THIS LINE BUT I AND CONCERNED ABOUT THE WAY THIS WAS WORDED. IF WE WERE GOING TO SHUT DOWN

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NOW YOU WHAT THEY SITUATION WE HAVE A PETITION WITH SEVERAL THOUSAND PEOPLE SIGNED NOW ASKING US TO RECONSIDER THIS. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO STOP TALKING AND DIFFERENT TO THE REST OF THE BOARD. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF MY CONCERNS SIMILAR TO WHAT COMMISSIONER SMITH AND YOURSELF POINTED OUT.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNS: I HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS. I'M NOT GOING TO DOG PILE ON THAT. MY FOCUS NOW IS MOVING FORWARD. THE CHANGES NEEDED TO BE MADE FOR ACCESSIBILITY TO BE RESUMED TO OUR PUBLIC. WHAT AFFECT DOES NOT HAVE WITH THE CONTRACT? THAT'S BEEN SIGNED BY BOTH PARTIES.

HOW DO WE ACCOUNT FOR ALL THE NEEDS OF THE HOMEOWNERS, THE RESIDENTS THAT USE THE PROPERTY, THE CONTRACTOR THAT HAS A LEGAL RIGHT TO USE THE PROPERTY, THAT WAS NOT THE CONTRACT LANGUAGE THAT WE UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WERE GETTING DIRECTED TO SO THAT ALL CAN RESUME THE HARMONY F THIS PART OF OUR COUNTY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE HOMEOWNERS AND THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE PARKING LOT WITHOUT AN ADDITIONAL UNEXPECTED EXPENSE TO THE TAXPAYERS OR TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HIRE THIS CONTRACTOR TO BE ABLE TO RESUME THE SERVICES OR CONTINUE THE SERVICES. THANK YOU, MR. JARED. CHAIR.

>> SPEAKER: TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER JOHN'S THOUGHTS, GOING FORWARD ONE ALTERNATIVE I WAS THINKING OF LAST NIGHT WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THE NUMBER OF EMAILS THAT I RECEIVED WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF THE CONTRACTOR ADDING WHATEVER NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL CROSSING GUARDS OR GENERAL SECURITY GUARDS THAT WOULD EITHER WALK WITH OR FOLLOW THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT TO ENSURE THE COMPLETE SAFETY OF FAMILIES WHO WOULD BE USING THE BEACH PARKING LOT DURING THE WEEK. AND IS NOT SOMETHING WE HARDLY COULD REACH AN AGREEMENT WHERE THE CONTRACTOR COULD GO FORWARD, TAKE ON ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES OF ENSURING COMPLETE SAFETY OF THE BEACH GOING FAMILIES AND KEEP THE PARKING LOT OPEN DURING THE WEEK AS WELL AS THE WEEKEND. I OFFER THAT AS THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE I'VE BEEN ABLE TO PTHINK OF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE TO ME, ASSUMING WE PROVIDE NUMBER ONE ISSUE IS SAFETY TO THE BEACH GOING FAMILIES AND THEIR CHILDREN IF WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT WITH AN ADDITIONAL GROUP OF GUARDS, CROSSING GUARDS, WHATEVER THE TERMINOLOGY, I OFFER THAT, IT'S FOOD FOR THOUGHT OF HOW WE CAN ACCOMPLISH BOTH THE 13 HOMEOWNERS TO PROTECT THEIR

HOMES BUT ALSO THE BEACH GOING PUBLIC TO GO TO THEM. >> THRACIAN

>> I THINK THE ISSUE HAS FLIPPED ON A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE HAD A GROUP OF HOMEOWNERS THAT WERE FEARFUL FOR THEIR HOME BECAUSE OF BEACH EROSION LINKING TO THE COUNTY AND I THOUGHT WE DID EVERYTHING TO FACILITATE THAT PROJECT NOW WE ARE DEALING WITH OTHER HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE THE SOLUTION HELPING THE FIRST GROUP IS TO TAKE THE BENEFIT AWAY FROM THEM THAT PERIOD OF TIME. NOT EVERYTHING OCCURRED IN FRONT OF CAMERAS ON THIS ROOM. THERE ARE COMMUNICATIONS THAT WENT OUT AND I HAVE ONE IN FRONT OF ME THAT WAS A RESPONSE TO HOMEOWNERS ON THE GEO TO PROJECT A YEAR AGO THAT WENT TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THIS IS ALMOST YEAR AGO I LIKE TO READ A COUPLE OF PARAGRAPHS. IT'S THE INTERACTION THAT OCCURRED BETWEEN VEHICLE IN THE PUBLIC BEACH DURING THE ACTION PROJECT UTILIZING MICHLARS BEACHFRONT PARTY.

IT'S A GREAT CONCERN TO US AND FOR THE HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE THIS IS RELATED TO THE PRIOR PROJECT IN WHICH WE ALLOW BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT IN ORDER TO AVOID THE DANGEROUS INTERFACE FROM THE PARKING LOT WILL HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY CLOSED DURING THE FUTURE PROJECT TO BEST PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE.

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SO WE KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE.LATER ON TO INDICATE THE COUNTY DOES NOT OWN ANY ADDITIONAL LAND IN THE AREA. BEACHFRONT PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD BE WELL ADVISED. THIS IS THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE BEACH NOW.

TO BEGIN TO IDENTIFY A PRIVATE ACCESS POINT THAT CAN FACILITATE THE PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE. MY POINT IS HERE WE HAVE TALKED ALL ALONG ABOUT THE NEXT PROJECT THE NEXT TIME WE DO THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE SHUT DOWN.

WHETHER WE CLEARLY COMMUNICATED THAT TO THE AGREEMENT THAT'S NOT FOR YOU TO DETERMINE.

I HAVE SAID TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND WE WERE GOING TO GET THIS CORRESPONDENT ANOTHER POINT OF ACCESS BECAUSE THE COUNTY DOESN'T OWN ANY OF THE LAND. SO I THINK IT'S A COMPLICATED SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES. IT'S NOT ONE-SIDED. WE ARE TRYING TO FACILITATE EVERYBODY'S AGENDA. TWO COMMISSIONER DEAN HOFFMAN POINT YOU WANT TO ASK IS, I WOULD PREFER THAT YOU ASKED US TO TRY TO FIND A SOLUTION TO THIS RATHER THAN DO IT ON THE FLOOR. BUT THERE WILL BE A COST. THEN I GUESS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IS GOING TO BE IS GOING TO PAY THE COST BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP OF THE PARKING LOT YOU HAVE AN UNSAFE VEHICULAR CIRCULATION PATTERN IN THE PARKING LOT YOU HAVE AN ERROR ACCESS POINT TO THE BEACHES USING BY BEACHGOERS AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND IT'S JUST

NOT SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING >> SPEAKER: IT WAS NOT COMMUNICATED WELL. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THIS TIME AROUND THE THING IS COMMISSIONER JEAN BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SAFETY MEASURES AND THAT WAS IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US.

AND THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THAT THAT WAS PART OF WHAT WAS TO BE INTENDED, WHAT I SEE.

WHAT I SAW IS THE SPORT ESTABLISHED PARAMETERS AND THOSE HAVE BEEN CHANGED AND ALTERED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THE CONTRACT NOW.

I KNOW IT'S VASTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAD PRESENTED TO US.

AND THAT'S WHAT ÃI THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE TODAY TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENED SO THAT WE CAN GO FORWARD SO THAT THIS DOESN'T OCCUR AGAIN. MY QUESTION IS THIS.

NOT ONLY THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE BUT HAVE OTHER THINGS BEEN RADICALLY CHANGED WERE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE BOARD HAD GIVEN DIRECTED TO CLEAR DIRECTIVE AND PARAMETERS TO END THE PAST. THAT'S A CONCERNING THING TO ME.

WE CAN JUSTIFY IT, I'VE HEARD THE ARGUMENTS, I'VE HEARD THE JUSTIFICATION.

I HAVE VERY SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THIS MUST DRIVE AND NOW THIS BOARD WAS ELECTED BODY IN A PUBLIC FORUM HAD CLEARLY DELIBERATED AND DECIDED WHAT TO DO HAS BEEN ALTERED VERY VERY

GREATLY. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. >> SPEAKER: MR. WOJCIECH I HAVE COMMENTS SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. CAN YOU TELL US WHO EXACTLY

MADE THE DECISION TO CLOSE MICHLARS? >> THE STAFF AND THEY WORK FOR

ME. >> THAT WAS NOT COMMUNICATED TO US.

I DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT. TO BE WRONG ABOUT THAT. WHEN I WATCH THE TAPE I DON'T THINK THAT WAS COMMUNICATED. WHAT YOU JUST OUTLINED IN THE EMAIL IS CONCERNED.

I DON'T REMEMBER THAT BEING BROUGHT UP IN THE CONTENT. I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE CERTAINLY HAD SOME IMPACT ON OUR DECISION-MAKING. I THINK FOR ME, SAFETY IS ALWAYS THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE. THERE'S SOME THINGS INHERENTLY UNSAFE, BUT THERE ARE THINGS WE WANT TO DO TO MITIGATE THAT. NO ONE WANTS TO STAY AND APPEAR MAKING A DECISION IS GOING TO PUT IN DANGER LIVES. HAVING SAID THAT, I AM CONCERNED BECAUSE YOU NOW WE ARE IN THIS POSTURE WHERE PROJECT CAME BEFORE THE BOARD, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO HELP PRIOR CITIZENS THAT WANT TO SPEND THEIR OWN MONEY AND RESOURCES THAT WE PERMITTED TO DO

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OBVIOUSLY THERE'S COUNTERPOINTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS WANT TO UNDERSTAND.

NO ONE HERE WOULD STORM THE ENVIRONMENT OR SEA TURTLES OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

I FEEL LIKE WE MADE THIS DECISION WITHOUT ALL THE INFORMATION.

I'M NOT CALLING OUT YOUR SOFTWARE STAFF BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE AN INFLAMED PUBLIC AND WE HAVE TO ANSWER TO. WE WORK FOR THE PUBLIC.

I'M UP HERE TODAY BECAUSE THE PUBLIC MADE THE DECISION TO TRUST ME ENOUGH MY DISTRICT.

THIS GENTLEMAN WILL APPEAR TODAY BECAUSE THEY WERE ELECTED.

WE HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE VOTERS ON THIS. AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT HOW IT WENT DOWN AND I'M CONCERNED WE DID NOT NOTICE, IF WE KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO HAVE THAT MUCH OF AN IMPACT WE SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED MORE NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC SO THEY CAN COME IN HERE BEFORE WE MADE THIS DECISION NOT AFTER.OES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> IT DOES, BUT I THINK IN FAIRNESS YOU ARE TAKING SOME OF THIS OUT OF CONTEXT.

IF YOU REMEMBER YOU HAD A GROUP OF D TO SUPPORTING RESIDENTS THAT DIDN'T WANT TO PAY INITIALLY FOR THE DAMAGE TO THE PARKING LOT THAT MAY RESULTED. THEY WANTED TO PAY A FLAT FEE AND BE DONE WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. THERE WAS A TIME ELEMENT ON THE AGREEMENT BEING IN PLACE SO THEY CAN BEGIN THE PROCESS. UNDER NORMAL IRCUMSTANCES WE MIGHT HAVE BROUGHT THE AMENDED BACK THAT YOU ENTRUSTED US TO PUT TOGETHER AN AGREEMENT THAT FACILITATED THE PROJECT AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. DID WE DO IT WILL ITWASN'T OUR FINEST HOUR. I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT WAS. I THINK THAT EVERYBODY OPERATED IN GOOD FAITH PERSONALLY I THOUGHT I COMMUNICATED TO EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT THE AGREEMENT THE PARKING LOT WOULD BE CLOSE. THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION I COULD BE WRONG AND I MAY HAVE LEFT SOMEBODY OUT IN THAT DISCUSSION.

I THINK GOING BACK TO COMMISSIONER DEAN HOFFMAN POINT IS THERE SOMETHING THE COUNTY WANTS TO DO TO REMEDY THE SITUATION? BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO INCUR ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS. THE PARKING LOT HAS BEEN PAID AND YOU WILL SEE ANOTHER SERIES OF IMPROVEMENTS WHILE IT'S CLOSE. SO THE ALTERNATIVE IS NOT TO HAVE PERMITTED THIS PROJECT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTED TO TELL THE HOMEOWNERS DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT THEIR OWN HOMES. IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION.

>> THIS IS NOT TO POINT FINGERS BUT I THINK YOU HAVE SEVERAL OF US SAY THAT WASN'T OUR RECOLLECTION. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRUST YOU DO GREG ABBOTT OF EMBRYONIC WE ENTERED INTO IN ITS EARLY NOT WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS LONG SUMMER LINES ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT US AND I AM CONCERNED WE DID NOT EVOLVE OR IF THE PUBLIC.

WE HAVE ONE GENTLEMAN HERE MR. PHILLIPS HE'S A FINE MAN HE CAME UP AND SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THIS HOME AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE ANY HOMEOWNER HE WAS TO PROTECT HIS OWN.

THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE WITH MR. PHILLIPS ON THE RESIDENCE. I FEEL LIKE WE AS A COUNTY MISSED THE BOAT ON THIS BECAUSE WE DID NOT FULLY ÃWE THE DECISION-MAKERS DID NOT HAVE A

BROAD OR THOROUGH UNDERSTANDING OF THIS ISSUE. >> AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION AND I WILL ACCEPT THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT. IF YOU HAVE A CONSTITUENT ON HAND I'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE THEM TALK TO ME AND I APOLOGIZE TO THEM AS WELL.

I THINK MOVING FORWARD, WHAT IS THE SOLUTION WE WANT TO INVOKE? THERE'S PROBABLY SOME THINGS WE CAN DO BUT THERE WILL BE SOME EXPENSES. COMMISSIONER DEAN RECOMMENDED PUMPING BUT WE DON'T THINK THAT'S SAY. WE DON'T THINK HAVING AN

ADDITIONAL FIVE IS GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT. >> I HAVE THIS PROBLEM WITH THE EXTRA COST. WE HAD A GENTLEMAN, MR. PHILLIPS, NICE GUY REPRESENTING A GROUP OF FAMILIES THAT OWN PROPERTY ON THE BEACH. THEY SAID IT WOULD TAKE 45 DAYS. THAT'S BEEN EXTENDED. IF THERE IS AN EXTENSION BEYOND THAT THEY'RE GETTING MORE DAYS OF WORK WHEN IT CLOSED DOWN THE 45 DAYS.

NO DIFFERENT, WE DIDN'T GO FIND IT A DAY EARLY WITHOUT PERMISSION.

SO WHAT IS THE EXTRA COST? TO ME MR. PHILLIPS AND THEM HAVE HIRED A CONTRACTOR.

THAT'S THEIR DECISION TO GET IT DONE IN THAT TIMEFRAME. THAT THEY REPRESENTED TO US.

THAT TIMEFRAME WAS NOT REPRESENTED BY STAFF OR BY ANYBODY BUT THE APPLICANT AND THEY WANTED TO THROW US APART THEY SAID THEY COULD GET IT DONE IN 45 AND WE GAVE THEM 60.

IT GOES BEYOND 60 THAT COST AND EVERYTHING TO BE ON THE APPLICANT AND THEY ARE PAYING THEIR CONTRACT. IT'S NOT OUR CONTRACTOR AND THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.

TOO OFTEN THE COUNTY FOR SOME REASON WE HAVE TO AMEND THE CONTRACT WE GET A BLACK AND HAVE TO PAY A FINE BUT WHEN THEY DO SOMETHING WRONG THEY ARE NOT PAYING THE COUNTY TAXPAYERS ANYTHING FOR DOING SOMETHING WRONG. MOVING FORWARD NEEDS TO BE IN THERE TOO. I SHOULD GET CALLS ON FRIDAY IN OCTOBER THAT A PARK HAS BEEN

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ACTUALLY, WAITING FOR ME A SIGNED DOCUMENT WE CAN'T OPEN THE PARK UP TO THE PUBLIC THAT

GIVES A MORE DAYS TO WORK. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM LEGAL, OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY AS WELL. SEE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THIS.

>> SPEAKER: MR. CHAIR, AT THE LAST MEETING YOU GET PARAMETERS FOR USE OF THE AGREEMENT AND WE DID DO THAT DURING THE TIME Ã DURING EXECUTION STAFF WORKED WITH ADMINISTRATION WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS AND ALSO WITH THE CONTRACTOR REGARDING TIMING. AT THE TIME, I BELIEVE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITERATIONS. THERE WAS A 45 DAY Ã60 DAY DISCUSSION AND I BELIEVE DURING THOSE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN ADMIN AND THE CONTRACTOR AND THE RESIDENCE AND IT WAS A REQUEST TO INCLUDE SOME ADDITIONAL DAYS. MY SUGGSTION WAS TO INCLUDE DATE SPECIFIC RATHER THAN ADDING ADDITIONAL DAYS BECAUSE I THINK IT BECAME COMPLICATED MR. WALKER CAN SPEAK TO THAT. THEY DIDN'T WANTED TO INCLUDE WORKING DAYS, THEY WANTED TO SUBTRACT DAYS AND COME UP WITH A DIFFICULT EQUATION. SO MY ADVICE WAS TO PUT IN SPECIFIC DATES FOR USE THAT WOULD INCLUDE NOT ONLY THE USE OF THE FACILITY BUT TIME TO PREPARE THE FACILITY.ASED ON OUR LAST PROJECT WHEN WE MIX THE PUBLIC AND THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT BECAME A SAFETY ISSUE AND I THINK THE LAST TWO TIMES A CALL BACK AND LOOKED AT THE AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE DONE THIS THE PREVIOUS TWO TIMES THESE PROJECTS WE HAVE BLOCKED ACCESS FROM THE PUBLIC WHILE THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT WAS THERE SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE MIXUP, VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AS WELL AS PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AND TYPICAL VEHICULAR TRAFFIC WOULD BE HEAVY.

WE DID IN IRMA AND MATTHEW.O THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE REASON THAT THE RESTRICTION ON PUBLIC ACCESS SO THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT IS NOT THERE AND ALSO BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE LOT.

THE LOT IS NOT BIG. THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC TO ALLOW PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC WOULD PRESENT A SAFETY ISSUE. YOU HAVE OPTIONS AS FAR AS THIS AGREEMENT YOU COULD HAVE AMENDED THE AGREEMENT TO SHORTEN THE PERIOD OF TIME OR RESTRICT PORTIONS OF USE OF THE PARKING LOT BUT THE LOT IS NOT THAT BIG SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH RESTRICTION HOW MUCH THAT WOULD FACILITATE USE OF THE LOT BY RESTRICTING PORTIONS OF THE USE.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE HOMEOWNERS WHEN THEY CAME HERE REPRESENTED BY MR. PHILLIPS INDICATED THEY ONLY NEEDED 25 PERCENT OF THE ACCESS CLOSED SO HOW DO WE GET TO 100 PERCENT?

>> IF I CAN ADDRESS THAT, AS FAR AS THE 25 PERCENT AND THIS IS GENUINELY MY PERSPECTIVE ON THAT, 25 PERCENT WITH THE USE OF THE PARKING LOT I THINK WE NAMED A NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS DURING THE MEETING SOMETHING LIKE 60 SO IT WAS NOT A MATTER OF ÃTHERE'S A 60 FOOT WIDE ACCESS WAY THEY ARE ONLY GOING TO USE 25 PERCENT OF IT. IT WAS THE 25 PERCENT OF THE PARKING LOT WOULD BE SET ASIDE FOR THEM FOR THEM TO STORE EQUIPMENT AND SAND FOR THEM TO WORK? FROM ÃTHAT'S THE 25 PERCENT. IS THE USE OF THE PARKING LOT

NOT OF TIME OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT >> I UNDERSTAND.

MY CONCERN IS I DON'T THINK THE RESIDENTS WERE GOING TO SHUT DOWN THAT WAS NEVER IN MY COMMUNICATIONS AS COMMISSIONER FROM THE HOMEOWNERS AT NO POINT WAS THAT EVER ASKED FOR AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED IF I WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

DID THAT COME FROM THE HOMEOWNERS OR DID THAT COME FROM US AS A COUNTY?

>> I WOULD SAY IT'S SOMETHING WE WORKED OUT WITH THEM BECAUSE IN THE PAST AS THE ATTORNEY HAS SAID, THE PARKING LOT HAS BEEN CLOSED INTERMITTENTLY TO ACCOMMODATE THESE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES. WE HAVE LEARNED, WE DONE THIS NOW 2 TO 3 TIMES AND IN THIS GO AROUND AND TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A OPERATIONAL PLAN AS A PART OF THIS AGREEMENT NEEDED TO BE PUT TOGETHER EXPEDITIOUSLY BECAUSE WE ARE ON AN EXPEDITED TIMEFRAME IS HOW TO BEST ACCOMMODATE BOTH THAT HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND THOSE USERS AS WE HAVE SEEN IT AND WITNESSED IT IN THE PAST. AND WHAT SEEMED TO BE A REASONABLE COMPROMISE IS

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THEREIN IS THE 60 DAYS HAS BEEN REFERENCED THAT WE START COUNTING WORKDAYS AND WE WORKED OUT RANDY'S ALL ABOUT. AND WE CAN GET TO EXACTLY 60 DAYS WORKED AS WE WORKED THROUGH THAT WITH THEM FEBRUARY 7 ÃSECOND IS THE DATE OF USE THAT PARKS IDENTIFIED AS A USED DATE OF HIRE USE. THE MOTIVATION OF THE HOMEOWNERS AND THE CONTRACTORS SET UP IN A MANNER FOR THEM TO EXPEDITE THAT IS ON THEIR SIDE AS WELL.

NO ONE IS INCENTIVIZED TO DRAG IT OUT. SO THEY FEBRUARY 2 MASON WHAT WOULD BE A COMPLEX ARRANGEMENT ON COUNTY DAYS AND THEN COMING BACK AFTERWARDS TO TRY TO MAKE

REPAIRS. >> I THINK WE ARE FACED WITH TWO CONFLICTING ISSUES HERE.

NE WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WHICH YOU ENTERED INTO. I BELIEVE IN KEEPING OUR AGREEMENTS. THE COUNTY.OW WE HAVE THIS OTHER ISSUE OF CLOSING WHICH I FIND UNACCEPTABLE. IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO MY CONSTITUENTS SO MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD ASK THROUGH YOU AS THE CHAIRMAN REDIRECTS TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE TO RESOLVE THIS IN A WAY THE PARTIES INVOLVED THE RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO USE IT DURING THE WEEK AND ARE NOT ABLE TO IF SOMEBODY IS A RETIREE THAT MOVED HERE AND NOW I CAN'T ACCESS, THEY DON'T WANT TO DRIVE TO OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY TO USE THE BEACH.

BVIOUSLY THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE. I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR STAFF WE CAN GET THIS RIGHT. WE NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT NOW. RUNNING FROM BEFORE AND WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM ALL OVER THE WEEKEND I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM DIFFERENT PARTIES.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS LAST TIME THIS PROJECT WAS IN PLACE MAYBE THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE REFERENCING, THERE WAS STILL PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE BEACH AND I UNDERSTAND THERE MAY BE SAFETY ISSUES THAT COME INTO PLAY BUT I WOULD ASK THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION SO WE CAN HONOR OUR AGREEMENT BUT RESOLVE THIS IN A MANNER WHERE WE CAN KEEP THE ACCESS POINT OPEN. AND ALSO, TO BE CANDID, TO LOOK AT HOW WE WENT TO THE NOTICE PROCESS BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET BACK IN THE BUSINESS OF LETTING THE PUBLIC KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THEM AND THEY ARE ENGAGED AND WE HAVE ENGAGED PEOPLE THAT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THESE MEETINGS AN TELL US WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE. WE HEAR ABOUT THIS AFTERWARDS, AFTER A DECISION IS MADE AND THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE GET ENGAGED BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW UNTIL THEN.

WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A BETTER WAY OF DOING THAT. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH: WHILE WE ARE HERE AND I SECURED SOME DOCUMENTS FROM THE CLERK OF THE COURT OFFICE AND WE HAVE NOT SIGNED OFF ON THESE MINUTES YET. BUT WE HAVE ALSO HAD DURING OUR DISCUSSION IN OUR LAST BOARD PACKET ON OCTOBER 1, WE WENT THROUGH PROPERTY DAMAGE LIABILITY THAT LINE ITEM AND I'M GOING TO BRING IT BACK O REMEMBRANCE BCAUSE I WANT THIS TO BE CORRECTED. WE HAD IT IN OUR PACKET IT SAID SINCE THE ASPHALT IS NEW AND HAS NOT CURED IN THE SEA RAMP IS ANY VULNERABLE LOCATION HAYWARD CONSTRUCTION AND CFT TRUCKING CANNOT BE LIABLE FOR COSMETIC OR PHYSICAL DAMAGE AT THE NEW PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS. THAT ÃWE HAD ANOTHER LETTER THAT HAD A DIFFERENT PARAGRAPH AND IT SEPTEMBER 16. HOWEVER, IN THE CLERK OF THE COURT, COURT PUBLIC RECORDS NOT SPEAK RECORD THAT SHOWS UP IN THE SAME LANGUAGE THAT THERE AND THAT NEEDS TO BE FOLLOWED UP ON. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CLARITY ON THESE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE GOING FORWARD THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT DOCUMENTS MAKING IT INTO THE MINUTES.

AND THIS PORT ADDRESS THAT, AND I BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH WRITTEN ON SEPTEMBER 16.

T WAS A CONCERN OF MINE WHEN IT CAME TO TAXPAYER TANGIBLE ASSETS AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS SAME INDIVIDUAL HAS IT SHOW UP IN THE CLERK OF THE COURT RECORDS.

THAT NEEDS TO BE RECTIFIED AS WELL. BUT I CAN'T GO BACK AND GO THROUGH ALL THESE DOCUMENTS EVERY TIME AND MAKE SUE IT'S CORRECT.

I SERVED AS CHAIRMAN BEFORE. I CAN'T GO THROUGH ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS AND BE EFFICIENT WITH TIME. WE NEED STAFF TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE RIGHTLY, PROPERLY AND WHAT IS SUBMITTED PORT IN PERPETUITY THAT'S IN RECORDS IS CORRECT. THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: PATRICK, DID YOU ALL GET THAT STRAIGHT? I GUESS LET'S HAVE PUBLIC

COMMENT AND THEN WE WILL Ã >> SPEAKER: WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, AGENDA ITEM

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CERTAIN ITEM FOR THAT SPECIAL MEETING AT NOON. >> SPEAKER: CAN WE GET TO THIS

VERSE? >> SPEAKER: I WOULD TRY TO BE AS CLOSE TO THAT AS POSSIBLE.

>> SPEAKER: OKAY. THANK YOU. IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK, COME TO ONE OF THE OTHER MICROPHONES THAT WAY YOU ARE NOT SITTING AROUND UNTIL AFTER ABOUT 3:00

WHEN WE CAN GET BACK TO YOU. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU FOR MOVING US UP.

NICOLE CROSBY PONTE VEDRE BEACH. THANK YOU FOR MOVING US UP ON THE AGENDA. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING WE HEARD YOU SAY. WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID AND WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO.

WE HAVE LOST A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HERE TODAY, BUT WHAT I WANTED Ã ACROSS HALF OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY OUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TAKEN CARE OF SO MUCH OF THAT. I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. YESTERDAY MR. WHIRLY THE CONTRACTOR TOLD ME HE WAS VERY WORRIED SOMEONE WOULD BE HURT DURING HIS LAST JOB HERE AND THAT'S WHY MICHLARS IS CLOSED NOW. WHY WASN'T THAT INFORMATION BROUGHT UP 1 OCTOBER CLEARLY THE JOB WAS PRESENTED AS A SAFE TO GET THE COMMISSIONERS VOTE AND THEN DEEMED UNSAFE TO GET THE BEACH CLOSE. PERHAPS IT WAS ALSO DEEMED UNSAFE TO REDUCED COSTS FOR THE CONTRACTOR BECAUSE HE HAD PEOPLE HIRED TO COORDINATE PEDESTRIAN AND TRUCK TRAFFIC AND NOW HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS PEOPLE ANYMORE. SO AND POSSIBLY ANOTHER REASON THAT THE BEACH WAS CLOSED WAS TO REDUCE THE SCRUTINY OF THE JOB BY THE UNWANTED EYES OF THE PUBLIC, WHICH HAS BEEN A PROBLEM BEFORE FOR MR. WHIRLY. I WON'T GO INTO THE SORDID DETAILS OF THAT. THE OCTOBER 1 AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CONTRACTOR AND THE COUNTY SHOULD NOT HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED. THE RESOLUTION SAID THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COULD EXECUTE A PERMISSIVE USE AGREEMENT IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME FORM AND FORMAT AS THE ONE ATTACHED. THAT MEANS IT CAN'T BE SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE THAT GAVE THE CONTRACTOR NONEXCLUSIVE USE OF MICKLERS SO HE CAN'T EXCLUDE US FROM OUR BEACH AND YOU'VE DONE A BETTER JOB THAN I DOING THE SAME ACT.

THE RESOLUTION ALSO SET FOR THE DURATION OF USE, THE CONTRACTOR WILL ALLOW PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, NOT PARTIAL. BUT PUBLIC ACCESS. YESTERDAY MORNING I STOOD AT THE ENTRANCE AND WATCHED A STREAM OF CARS BEING TURNED AWAY WHILE 13 HOMEOWNERS HAVE TO PERFECTLY GOOD ACCESSES. MANY WERE ACCESS WHEN SAM WAS TRUCKED AND AFTER MATTHEW AND IRMA AND MICKLER BEACH WAS NOT CLOSED. MR. WHIRLY TOLD ME YESTERDAY THOSE EMPTY LOTS OF DIFFICULT FOR TRUCKS TO TURN INTO.THERE ARE A LOT WIDER THAN THE GATE INTO MICKLER PARKING LOT. THE HOMEOWNER STILL WONDER IF THE LAST CARD UP WITH THE EQUIPMENT. THEY'D RATHER CARVE UP OUR BEACH.

WE CAME HERE ON VERY SHORT NOTICE TODAY BUT I CAN TELL YOU THE RESPONSES ÃYOU KNOW THE RESPONSE. I WON'T BELABOR THAT. PEOPLE ARE OUTRAGED.

WE WONDER WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ANOTHER 13 HOMEOWNERS WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE UP THE BEACH FOR ANOTHER TWO MONTHS? I THINK THE ANSWER IS NO.

THE ONLY THING MORE OUTRAGEOUS IS FOR THOSE WHO SUFFER THE PROPAGANDA PUT OUT BY THE COUNTY AND THE GEO TUBE PROJECT WAS A PETRI NOURISHMENT PROJECT IN THAT SPOT.

PLEASE DON'T SAY THAT TO US AGAIN. DON'T APPRECIATE THAT.

WE WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THE BEACH CLOSED DOWN FOR A TRUE PETRI NOURISHMENT PROJECT.

THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: JESMAINE. >> HOW DO YOU GET THIS TO WORK?

>> SPEAKER: THEY WILL TURN IT ON. >> SPEAKER: IF YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

NOTIFIED 25 PERCENT OF THE BEACH WILL BE CLOSED AND THE PUBLIC CAN USE HE OTHER PART.

UNLIKE THAT'S FINE. EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE OTHER LOTS TO ACCESS.

I JUST FOUND THIS OUT YESTERDAY. A FRIEND OF MINE SENT THIS TO ME AND SAID I WI WALK MY DOG MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND THE DOGS PLAY AND WE TALK AND A LOT OF RETIREES. THERE ARE A LOT OF HOMESCHOOLED KIDS.

LOTS OF PEOPLE IN NOT PETITE WHERE I LIVE THAT WORK OUT OF THEIR HOMES.

THEY GO TO THE BEACH AND DESTRESS AND YOU GET PEOPLE ON THE WEEKENDS AND EVERYBODY THINKS PEOPLE ONLY USE THE BEACH ON THE WEEKENDS. WE USE THEM DURING THE WEEK.

NOT HAVING ACCESS TO THE BEACH IS ALSO A SAFETY ISSUE. THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT A SAFETY ISSUE WITH BIG EQUIPMENT. A LADY IT'S ONLY BEEN 24 HOURS OF PLACING ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

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YOU CAN'T USE THE OTHER ONE BECAUSE OF THE STEPS AND CROSSING A1A.

FURTHER DOWN THEY HAVE HANDICAPPED ACCESS BUT YOU CAN'T GO ACROSS A1A.T MICKLERS THEY CAN HAVE PEOPLE THAT DIED WHATEVER CROSSING GUARDS MORE THEY ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH WITH THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT THEY WILL HANG A LEFT AND GO TO THIS PART OF THE BEACH. TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE CAN GO DOWN AND USE THAT.

I THINK HAVING PEOPLE THERE WATCHING ALL THAT IS A LOT SAFER THAN PEOPLE TRYING TO CROSS A1A WITH PEOPLE FLYING DOWN THE ROAD. KIDS, THE ELDERLY, HANDICAPPED, ALL THAT. FURTHER AWAY FROM THE BEACH. THAT'S THE SAFETY ISSUE.

AND ANOTHER THING IS THAT I AM UPSET ABOUT THE TURTLES. I'M PART OF THE TURTLE PATROL.

I SEE WHAT THE SEWALD ARE DOING. THAT'S ANOTHER TOPIC.

AS FAR AS SEA TURTLES GO, THE SEASON IS OFFICIALLY OVER AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY ARE DOING IT NOW. BUT WE ARE GETTING THE WASH BACKS.

AND IF YOU DON'T GET THE HATCHLINGS, THE BABY TURTLES AND WASH BACKS AND GET THEM IN THE SEA TURTLE HOSPITAL, THEY HAVE TOBE REHABBED AND SENT BACK OUT THERE.HE ONES THAT HATCH LATER ON ARE THE GREEN TURTLES AND THEY ARE MORE ENDANGERED THAN THE LOGGERHEADS. WE ARE THROWING ENDANGERED SPECIES OUT THE WINDOW.

THIS HEAVY EQUIPMENT SHOULD NOT EVEN BE ON THE BEACH RIGHT NOW. WE ARE GETTING WATCH BACKS.

I'D LIKE TO SAY A LOT MORE, BUT I'M OUT OF TIME. I AM JUST MAD.

THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: I AM LEANNE STEINBERG.

123 VISTA LAKE CIR. . THE SURF WRITERS ASKED ME TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT CHAPTER 161.041 REQUIRES THAT IF YOU ARE GRANTING A PERMIT, DEEP PROVISION NEEDS TO BE ALTERNATIVE ACCESS WHEN INTERFERENCE WITH PUBLIC ACCESS ALONG THE BEACH IS UNAVOIDABLE. SO THEY WANT TO MAKE ON THE RECORD THAT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE ACCESS PROVISIONS THAT ARE COMPARABLE TO THE ONES BEING LOST FOR THE DURATION OF THE CONSTRUCTION. THE SAME ONES THAT ARE BEING LOST AND FOR ME, I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT A WIDOW WHO MOVED HERE FROM D.C. TO BE NEAR THE BEACH, MY HUSBAND PASSED IN JANUARY, AND THAT'S THE REASON I CAME, TO GIVE ME PEACE, AND TO NOT HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS ON THIS SO THAT YOU WOULD KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE PROFOUNDLY IMPACTED BY A DECISION LIKE THIS AND AFTER LISTENING TO YOU, I BELIEVE THERE REALLY ISN'T A CONTRACT BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU, AND SO I AM HOPING THAT YOU GUYS WILL FIND A WAY AROUND

THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> SPEAKER: KIM MCDANIEL 80 PALM ISLAND WAY. I THINK YOU COVERED IT REALLY WELL.

HE FELT MISLED. WE DON'T LIKE THAT OUR ACCESS IS CLOSED.

THE PART ABOUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO REPAIR THE DAMAGE. THAT'S A BIG CONCERN APPLY BECAUSE THERE WAS A BIG PROJECT THAT GOT COMPLETED. WE GOT THE CEMENT, THE NEW BLACKTOP, THE WALKWAY. EVERYTHING IS GREAT THERE. I GUESS MY SUGGESTION IS MAYBE THERE ACCESS SHOULD BE SUSPENDED UNTIL ALL THESE ISSUES CAN BE RESOLVED, AND THAT'S THE BEACH I GO TO. I LIT'S NOT AS EASY TO GET TO AND IT CLOSES AT DUSK SO THAT'S NOT A COMPARABLE OPTION FOR BEACH ACCESS SO THAT HE DOES NEED TO BE A LOT MORE PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS IN NORTH ST. JOHNS COUNTY THEY HAVE ALL THE WALL COVERS BUT THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE TO PARK ALONG PONTE VEDRE BLVD. FOR ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T LIVE

IN THAT AREA TO USE. THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

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>> HI, I'M MELISSA DANIEL SON, 153 BAR BERRY ROAD. I'M NEW TO THE AREA AND MOVED HERE BACK IN NOVEMBER. I'M STILL TRYING TO FIND OUT IF IT'S MIKELER OR MICKLER.

WITH THE CONCERNS THAT YOU REPRESENTED IS WHAT YOU AGREED ON IS NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING.

GIVES ME GREAT CONCERN WE WOULD EVEN OPERATE THIS WAY AS A COUNTY.

ON TOP OF WHAT YOU DID SAY, IT DOES CLEARLY STATE IN THE CONTRACT THEY ARE NOT LIABLE FOR THE UNCURED NEW PAVEMENT. WHY WOULD WE SPEND ALL THAT MONEY AND NOT HAVE THE CONTRACTOR HAVE A BOND OR SOME SORT OF RESERVE TO PAY FOR WHATEVER THE REPAIRS ARE THAT ARE CAUSED AS A RESULT OF PRIVATE OWNERS BEING ALLOWED ON THE GRACE OF THE COUNTY TO USE PUBLIC DOMAIN TO IMPROVE AND STABILIZE THEIR PROPERTY? I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THAT, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE UP THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO USE SOMETHING, THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT BENEFIT TO THE PRIVATE OWNERS TO USE THE PUBLIC PROPERTY AS AN ACCESS POINT. WAS THERE ANOTHER PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER THAT WAS A VACANT LOT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED AND THEY LEASED THAT SPACE FROM SOMEONE SO THE PUBLIC COULD HAVE GONE ON AND NOT BEEN IMPACTED? BUT IT REALLY IS SAD TO ME THAT WE HAVE A CONTRACT SIGNED WITHOUT A BEGINNING AND END DATE. I FEEL THAT'S NOT RESPONSIBLE.

AND NOT THE WAY WE SHOULD ENTER INTO CONTRACTS. AGAIN THE FACT IN THE CONTRACT IT STATES THEY ARE NOT LIABLE. WHY WOULD WE EVEN AGREE TO THAT? I'M SAD TO SEE WHAT YOU COMMISSIONERS VOTED ON AND WHAT THE PUBLIC THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE ACCESS AND ONLY 25% OF THE PARKING WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED FOR PUBLIC USE IS NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING AND CLEARLY HAD SHOULD BE SUSPENDED UNTIL IT BENEFITS EVERYONE, THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE CITIZENS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: IS THERE ANY OTHER

PUBLIC COMMENT TO ATTEND TO 2 B. >> LEGAL.

SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> YES MR. CHAIR.

I WANTED TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS ABOUT THE AGREEMENT. THE AGREEMENT EXECUTED ON OCTOBER, BACK IN OCTOBER, THERE'S PROVISION 5 FOR RESTORATION OF THE PROPERTY

>> THE CONTRACTORS AND THAT WAS YOUR DIRECTION, THE CONTRACT ON IS FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR RESTORATION COST AND REQUIRED SECURITY WHICH WAS HE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE, WHICH WE RECEIVED THAT. THE CONTRACT IS JUST TO CLARIFY, THE CONTRACTOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DAMAGE TO THE PROPERTY. THE ONLY THING THAT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. ALSO THE AGREEMENT ONLY ALLOWS FOR USE THE COUNTY PROPERTY, THE COUNTY FACILITY, THE 25% I THINK COMMISSIONER BLOCKER MAY BE REFERRING TO.

SOME ACTIVITIES ON THE BEACH. COUNTY DID NOT PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE BEACH, DID NOT ISSUE PERMITS FOR ACTIVITIES ON THE BEACH. THE AGREEMENT IS RESTRICTED TO USE OF THE FACILITY, AND I BELIEVE WHERE THE 25% CONVERSATION COMES IN, IT WAS 25% OF THE PROPERTY WHICH WE IDENTIFIED AS THE PARKING LOT. WE HAVEN'T PERMITTED ACTIVITIES ON THE BEACH AND WE HAVE PROVIDED FOR FULL RESTORATION AND REQUIRED SECURITY FOR THAT RESTORATION.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER BROUGHT UP A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF, IF YOU

WANT TO RE-SAY IT THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN I MAKE A MOTION AT THIS TIME FOR THE BOARD IT DIRECT OUR STAFF AND OUR LEGAL TO WORK WITH THIS SITUATION AND TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO OFFER WITHIN THE BOUNDS HERE TO MAKE SURE WE OPEN UP PUBLIC ACCESS BACK IN MICHLER AND WE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO RESOLVE THE SITUATION.

I HAVE CONFIDENCE OUR STAFF CAN FIGURE THIS OUT. HAS THE LEADERSHIP AND ABILITY TO DO THAT. I AM CONCERNED, WE DO NEED TO REVISIT HOW THE NOTICE WENT THROUGH. I ASK STAFF COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS HOW TO DO A BETTER JOB NOTICING THE PUBLIC. IN ADDITION TO THAT, AS PART OF MY MOTION, AND THIS IS A LONG MOTION, WE CAN LOOK AT HOW WE'RE EXECUTING THESE CONTRACTS. I THINK AS A BOARD, WE FELT THAT WE GAVE SOME GUIDANCE AND MAYBE IT WAS NOT THERE. SO IF STAFF COULD MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE CAN FLUSH THIS OUT BETTER IN THE FUTURE. LONG MOTION, BUT

CLEAR. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES 5-0. MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD VERY

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WE WILL LOOK FOR A WAY TO ACCOMMODATE THE MOTION. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IMMEDIATELY. OKAY. I AM NOT GOING TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO OPEN UP THAT ACCESS POINT UNTIL WE ALL FEEL IT'S SAFE.

I THINK I HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY AS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

IF WE CAN DO THAT THIS AFTERNOON, WE WILL DO IT THIS AFTERNOON.

IF IT TAKES A FEW DAYS TO PUT THINGS IN PLACE, I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S OUR FIRST RESPONSIBILITY. THAT'S OUR FIRST RESPONSIBILITY AND IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY I THINK IS SACRED TO THE COMMUNITY. SO WE'LL MOVE THIS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST WILL BE.

BUT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THERE'S GOING TO BE A DELAY HERE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO UNLOCK THE GATES THIS AFTERNOON IF THERE'S AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT

OCCURRING. >> GO AHEAD. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT MR. WANCHICK, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT. I DON'T WANT PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK THESE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANT TO GET OVERLOADED WITH UPSET CITIZENS WHO DON'T HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE. I ASK OUR STAFF USE THE ORGANS OF OUR GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE HERE AND THE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO US TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS.

I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH ANYMORE UPSET NEIGHBORS WHO ARE REASONABLE AND UPSET ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T COMMUNICATED PROPERLY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON

THAT. >> >> THANK YOU.

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>> OKAY. AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH TO OUR AGENDA ITEM THAT CONSERVES ONE OF COUNTY'S ON GOING LAWSUIT. MR. MCCORMACK, DO YOU HAVE A

STATEMENT TO MAKE? >> YES, I DO, FIRST THE REGULAR MEETING WILL BE IN RECESS AND THE INITIATION OF THE SPECIAL MEETING HERE. MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO INFORM YOU AND THE BOARD I NEED ADVICE CONCERNS KG DEVELOPMENT LLC-CUMBERLAND STREET, LLC VERSUS ST. JOHNS COUNTY. FLORIDA STATUTE SECTION 286.011 ALLOWS THE BOARD TO HOLD A

PRIVATE MEETING IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THAT ADVICE. >> OKAY.

A CLOSED ATTORNEY-CLIENT MEETING CONCERNING THE KINGS LAWSUIT WILL COMMENT AT 12:07 AND WILL LAST AN HOUR. PAUL M. WALDRON. JEB S. SMITH, COMMISSIONER JANE K JOHNS. JEREMIAH RAY BLOCKER AND HENRY DEAN.

MICHAEL D. WANCHICK. PATRICK MCCORMACK. WAYNE FLOWERS AND A COURT REPORTER. BOARD MEMBERS AS A PRACTICAL MEMBER.

IT WILL TAKE A FEW MINUTES FOR THE COURT REPORTER TO BE SET UP IN THE EXECUTIVE ROOM.

IF ANYONE WANTED TO POWDER THEIR NOSE. >> START AT 12:15.

>> YES, SIR. IT'S A SET TIME CERTAIN 1:00. WE WILL TAKE UP THE OTHER ONE

NOT BEFORE 3:00. >> I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN -- 1 O'CLOCK AGENDA FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE'LL TRY TO WORK IT.

NO BECAUSE IT'S MORE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT ONE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE 1 O'CLOCK. CAN WE TELL THEM 2 O'CLOCK, 3 O'CLOCK? I'M GOING TO GUESS HOPEFULLY 2 O'CLOCK. LET'S JUST SET 2 O'CLOCK.

THANK YOU. >> TIME CERTAIN 2 O'CLOCK.

COUNTY HAS BEEN OF THIS AND HAS GONE THROUGH LITIGATION.

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AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ASK FOR THE BOARD TO AUTHORIZE MEDIATION PERTAINING TO THIS MATTER, AND TO DIRECT THE OFFICE OF COUNTY ATTORNEY TO FULLY PREPARE FOR LITIGATION IN ADDITION TO THE MEDIATION. I ASK IF BOARD MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS OR OPEN UP TO PUBLIC

COMMENT AND CONSIDER GIVING SUCH AUTHORIZATION. >> OKAY.

LET'S HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS SPECIAL MEETING OF KINGS GRANT LITIGATION AND MEDIATION. SEEING NONE, MR. CHAIRMAN. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> IS THERE A MOTION? OR ANY DISCUSSION? WOULD THERE BE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE OFFICE OF COUNTY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE, TO PREPARE FOR ENGAGE WITH APPROPRIATE REPRESENTATIVES THE DECEMBER 19TH SCHEDULED MEDIATION AND TO OTHERWISE FULLY

PREPARE FOR LITIGATION? >> MR. CHAIRMAN. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION.

>> I WILL SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

TO MEDIATION. PLEASE VOTE. PASSES 4-1.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. MR. CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS I DID WANT TO ALSO KIND OF ANNOUNCE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A SEMIBURNING SMELL OVER IN THIS AREA.

WE'RE TRYING TO ISOLATE WHERE THAT IS. I JUST MENTION THAT IN THE CASE THAT IF IT PROCEEDS INTO A MORE SERIOUS MATTER, YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A HEADS UP THERE MAY BE AN

ISSUE. >> IF THE SPRINKLERS COME ON, IT'S GAME ON.

WE WILL KEEP MEETING AND MOVE RIGHT ON. >>> OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE, IS JESSIE READY? >> DARRYL IS GOING TO DO THIS.

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>> MR. LOCKLEAR. >> I APOLOGIZE TO EVERYBODY. WE KIND OF HAD A LOT MORE PUBLIC COMMENT THAN ANTICIPATED. WE ARE RUNNING WAY BEHIND. GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION ON OUR GENERAL RESERVE FUND.

I DON'T BELIEVE HOUR PUBLIC HAVE SEEN THIS PRESENTATION AS OF YET.

SO, IF AS WE BEGIN, IF I COULD START WITH AN OVERVIEW -- SEE IF I CAN GET THE MOUSE THING -- WE WILL BEGIN WITH A BRIEF INTRODUCTION FOLLOWED BY A DISCUSSION ON THE PARAMETERS THAT WENT INTO OUR DECISION. THE CATEGORIES THAT WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION AND HOW WE SELECTED CATEGORIES FOR CONSIDERATION. AND THEN THE PROJECTS THAT FELL FROM THAT SERIES OF MATRIX DECISIONMAKING AND THEN A FINAL SUMMARY MATRIX AND WE WILL HAVE A SLIDE PERTAINING TO THE READINESS OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED.

LASTLY A MOTION FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER. IN TOTAL IT IS 15 SLIDES.

TO BEGIN, REGARDING THE COUNTY'S SURPLUSES. THE COUNTY ANNUALLY APPROPRIATES TARGET RESERVES TO PROTECT AGAINST UNFORESEEN CASH FLOW SHORTAGES, EMERGENCIES, UNEXPECTED ECONOMIC DOWNTURNS AND TO SAFEGUARD OUR AA PLUS CREDIT RATING.

THE ADOPTED BUDGET THIS YEAR 2020, INCLUDES $64.2 MILLION IN GENERAL FUND RESERVES.

THAT EXCEEDS THE COUNTY'S TARGET RESERVE LEVEL BY APPROXIMATELY $15 MILLION.

SO THE $15 MILLION SURPLUS. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A UNIQUE SITUATION.

SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T HAD IN RECENT YEARS. THIS WAS SEGREGATED FROM THE NORMAL BUDGET PROCESS FOR THIS DISCUSSION. WHILE THE LIST OF RECOMMENDED PROJECTS THAT WE WILL END ON IS BASED ON IDENTIFIED DECISION PARAMETERS, IT IS SIMPLY OUR

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THAT WE WOULD REFLECT AND THEY WOULD REFLECT THE ADOPTED COUNTY MASTER PLANS AND/OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. THEY WOULD MAXIMIZE LEVERAGING OF STATE, PRIVATE, FEDERAL OPPORTUNITIES TO MAXIMIZE OTHER COUNTY FUNDING MORE RESTRICTIVE SUCH AS TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX AND IMPACT FEES. WE WOULD CERTAINLY LOOK FOR PROJECTS WITH BROAD BENEFITS AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE RECURRING COSTS THAT MAY BE GENERATED.

SO THEN IDENTIFYING CATEGORIES, SHOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IN LISTENING TO THE BOARD'S ACTION AND LISTENING TO DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY OVER RECENT YEARS, THEY WERE APPROXIMATELY 10 CATEGORIES LISTED ON THE SCREEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

AS WE BEGIN TO EXAMINE THOSE 10 CATEGORIES, THEY BEGAN TO FALL OUT INTO TWO SEPARATE BOXES AS THEY'RE LISTED HERE. WE SAW CATEGORIES THAT THE BOARD HAD TAKEN ACTIONS RECENTLY TO BEGIN ADDRESSING THINGS LIKE ROAD AND DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE, MAINTENANCE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, FIRE DEBT REDUCTION. THE BOARD HAS TAKEN RECENT ACTIONS AND THE NEXT SLIDE WILL GO INTO WHAT THE BOARD HAS DONE FOR EACH OF THOSE.

HOWEVER, THERE REMAIN FIVE ADDITIONAL CATEGORIES THAT CERTAINLY COULD UTILIZE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, CATEGORIES TO BE ADDRESSED AS WE HAVE TITLED THEM.

PARKS AND RECS, LIBRARIES, WATER WAY ACCESSES SUCH AS BOAT RAMPS. BEACH RESTORATION, SIDEWALKS.

LOOKING AT THE CATEGORIES THAT WE CONSIDER TO HAVE BEEN RECENTLY ADDRESSED, IN A LITTLE FURTHER DETAIL, ROAD AND DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE. ADDITIONAL FUNDING HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY MILLAGE SHIFTS. ONE-TIME RESERVE ALLOCATIONS AND THE HMGP AND DISCOVER RECOVERY GRANT FUNDING. THE BOARD HAS SHOWN A COMMITMENT TO HELP RELIEVE THAT BACKLOG AND DEDICATED FUNDING PROVIDED OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS HAS REDUCED A SIGNIFICANT BACKLOG TO WHAT WE NOW BELIEVE IS A MANAGEABLE ANNUAL DEFERRED. DISASTER RECOVERY AND OTHER CDBG FUNDS TAKE THAT CATEGORY DOWN THE ROAD AWAYS AND CERTAIN IN ADDRESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

FIRE STATIONS, FIRE IMPACT FEES HAVE BEEN DEDICATED TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW FIRE STATIONS WHILE SAFER GRANTS HAVE BEEN LEVERAGED TO OFFSET ANNUAL COSTS AND PROJECTIONS OF OUR IMPACT FEES. ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE ABLE TO SATISFY THAT NEED INTO THE FUTURE IF THEY MAINTAIN THEIR CURRENT FUNDING LEVEL. WE HAVE RECENTLY BUILT TWO NEW STATIONS. DEBT REDUCTION. SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD IS CERTAINLY SENSITIVE TO. AND WE WOULD STATE THAT THE COUNTY'S ONGOING DEBT REDUCTION HAVE ACHIEVED OVER $24.6 MILLION SINCE 2012. CERTAINLY ARGUABLE THE BOARD HAS TAKEN STEPS TO ADDRESS THAT CATEGORY. THEN WE BEGIN LOOKING AT CATEGORIES TO BE ADDRESSED, WE SEE THAT PARKS AND RECS, LIBRARIES, SIDEWALKS, ACCESS, BEACH RESTORATION CONTINUE TO REMAIN UNFUNDED, UNDERFUNDED MAYBE.

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THERE IS THE ABILITY WITH THESE CATEGORIES TO LEVERAGE OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AND WE CERTAINLY SEE THAT THERE'S BROAD COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR THOSE TYPES OF CATEGORIES AND PROJECTS. SO IF WE BEGIN, UNDER PARKS AND RECS, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION WOULD BE A VILLAGES REGIONAL PARK.

IT COULD BE CONSTRUCTED ON COUNTY-OWNED PROPERTY ALONG STATE ROAD 16 IN THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE AREA. IT IS IDENTIFIED AS TOP PRIORITY WITHIN THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN. CERTAINLY HAS BROAD COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

DOES CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS THROUGH THE COUNTY'S REGIONAL PARK PLANNING APPROACH AND CREATES A NEW REGIONAL AND ATHLETIC RECREATION SPACE IN A HIGHLY POPULATED AREA WITH GROWING NEEDS AND RELIEVES CAPACITY CONSTRAINTS AT THE NEARBY FACILITIES INCLUDING DAVIS PARK, VETERAN'S PARK. THIS, A REGIONAL PARK HERE WOULD PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES INCLUDING FLORIDA RECREATION DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANT PROGRAM GRANTS AND EXISTING PARK AND RECREATIONAL FEES. THE ANNUAL OPERATING COST THAT WOULD BE ANTICIPATED FROM A NEW PARK WOULD BE CERTAINLY COVERED BY THE ADDITIONAL SURPLUS FUNDS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DISCUSSING BECAUSE ABOUT A THIRD OF THOSE ARE FROM RE-OCCURRING SOURCES, THAT ANNUAL RECURRING COST IS SOMETHING WE ADDRESSED. WITH LIBRARIES, HERE AGAIN A VILLAGE IS REGIONAL LIBRARY COULD BE CONSTRUCTED ON COUNTY-OWNED PROPERTY IN THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE AREA. I WILL SAY THERE'S PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS OF A POTENTIAL JOINT FACILITY BETWEEN THE LIBRARY AND THE PARK IN THIS AREA THAT WE'RE EXPLORING TO SEE IF IT'S FEASIBLE. WHICH WE WOULD THINK WOULD BE GARNER ADDITIONAL SAVINGS.

THE LIBRARY IS A TOP PRIORITY AND HAS SUPPORT IN THE COMMUNITY.

AS WELL AS IT RELIEVES CAPACITY CONSTRAINTS AT OTHER LIBRARIES SUCH AS THE MAIN BARTROM TRAIL AND PONTE VEDRA. IT CAN LOCATE IN CONJUNCTION WITH A VILLAGES REGIONAL PARK WHICH I JUST MADE REFERENCE TO SO WE COULD REALIZE ADDITIONAL COST SAVINGS AND PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE LIBRARIES TECHNOLOGY ACT GRANTS AND EXISTING PUBLIC BUILDING IMPACT FEES. ALL OF THOSE ARE EITHER GRANTS OR MORE RESTRICTIVE FUNDS THAT ARE NOT AS EASILY TO ALLOCATE. HERE AGAIN, THE OPERATING COST WOULD BE PART OF THE RECURRING PORTION OF THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES. MOVING ON TO WATER WAY ACCESS PROGRAM. WE RECOMMEND ESTABLISHING A PROGRAM TO MAXIMIZE GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR COUNTY WIDE WATER WAY ACCESS. IE BOAT RAMP IMPROVEMENTS.

PROGRAM TO FUND ADDITIONAL RAMPS AT EXISTING VEHICLES. IMPROVE VEHICULAR ACCESSIBILITY.

COUNTY WIDE SURVEY INDICATED WE HAD BROAD COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR SUCH ACTIVITIES.

IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE AND MAXIMIZE MULTIPLE GRANTS AND FUNDING SOURCES INCLUDING FLORIDA BOATING IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT. POTENTIAL TOTAL WATER ACCESS PROGRAM COULD BE ESTABLISHED USING UP TO A MILLION DOLLARS OF THE SURPLUS FUNDS BEING LEVERAGED TO CREATE AS MUCH AS $4.5 MILLION OVER THREE YEARS. SUBSTANTIAL LEVERAGING OPPORTUNITY.

ANNUAL OPERATING COST COULD BE FUNDED THROUGH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF PARKING MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FEE STRUCTURE. THE BEACH RESTORATION PROGRAM. WE WOULD ESTABLISH A PROGRAM TO MAXIMIZE GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR FORTHCOMING NORTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH SHORELINE BEACH RESTORATION PROGRAM. LOCAL FUNDING COULD BE UTILIZED IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH SIMILAR TO SAINT AUGUSTINE AND PONTE VEDRA BEACH RESTORATION

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SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ARE SECTIONS OF SIDEWALKS MISSING, DEVELOPMENTS HAVE CONSTRUCTED THEIR REQUIREMENT SECTIONS AND ELSEWHERE THERE ARE PIECES THAT DON'T PROVIDE THE CONNECTIVITY FOR A COMPLETE SYSTEM. WITH A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ALLOCATED TOWARDS THE COUNTY WIDE COUNTY SIDEWALK PROGRAM. IT'S IDENTIFIED AS A TOP PRIORITY WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS. DOES HAVE BROAD COMMUNITY SUPPORTED AND LOCATED NEAR SCHOOLS, PARKS, COMMERCIAL LOCATIONS. WE WOULD CLOSE THE SIDEWALK GAPS, PROVIDE CONNECTIONS TO AND FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND INCREASED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND THE ANNUAL OPERATING EXPENSES ARE MINIMAL AND BE COVERED THROUGH OUR CURRENT MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES. MOVING ON TO OUR SUMMARY SLIDE. YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECT CATEGORIES, AS LONG AS ADJACENT NEXT TO THE PROJECTS ON THE LEFT-HANDED SIDE OF THE SCREEN.

HOW THE PROJECT DECISION PARAMETERS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED THERE IN THE CENTER.

REFLECTING GRANTS, UTILIZING COUNTY FUNDS AND BROAD COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND THAT WE HAVE CONSIDERED THE OPERATIONAL COSTS. AND THEN THE PROJECT FUNDING OVER ON THE RIGHT AS YOU GET TO THE BOTTOM IS WORTH NOTING THAT WITH THE $15 MILLION SURPLUS FUNDS, WE WOULD BE LOOKING IN EXCESS OF $24 MILLION OF TOTAL PROJECT FUNDING WE WOULD BRING TO THE COMMUNITY. AS A POINT OF TO NOTE, OUR PROJECTS AND PROJECTS IN READINESS WE NEED TO BE AWARE THAT PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE SELECTED FOR FUNDING -- THIS IS TO HELP PROVIDE BOTH THE BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY THE APPROPRIATE EXPECTATION AS WE MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD. WE STAFF WOULD NEED TO FURTHER LMIT OUR ENGINEERING, WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR COST ESTIMATES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING ON COURSE WITH WHAT WE PRESENTED.

BUT ONCE THE PROJECTS THE BOARD HAS GIVEN US AUTHORIZATION ON A LIST OF PROJECTS, WE WILL THEN BEGIN TO BRING THOSE BACK INDIVIDUALLY TO THE BOARD FOR ADDITIONAL APPROVALS BOTH THROUGH OUR NORMAL DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS AND OUR PROCUREMENT STANDARD PROCUREMENT PROCESS. SO, THE BOARD WILL SEE THESE IN THE FUTURE.

SO WITH THAT. THE FINAL SLIDE IS THAT OF A MOTION FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THAT WOULD GIVE US STAFF THE AUTHORIZATION WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE LIST OF CATEGORIES AND PROJECTS AS WE HAVE PRESENTED. AND THEN OTHER THAN THAT, WE STAND READY, THIS HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT TEAM EFFORT WITH OMB AND YOUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS UTILIZING THE MASTER PLANS AND THE DOCUMENTS OUR COMMUNITY HAS PARTICIPATED IN TO BRING THESE

RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> THANK YOU, DARRYL. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU AND STAFF AND THE GREAT WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS. A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND I'M SURE WE WILL HAVE MORE AS WE GO THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT. GOING BACK TO THE BUDGET WE APPROVED SOME TIME AGO, DID WE ALREADY SET ASIDE FUNDING FOR A LIBRARY? WAS THAT

IDENTIFIED? >> NO, SIR. >> THERE WAS NO -- THERE'S NO

FUNDING CURRENTLY IN OUR BUDGET TO TARGET A NEW >> NOT THIS YEAR.

>> OKAY. SO WHAT WAS THE DECISION POINT FOR THE ONE IN VILLAGE REGIONAL

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IT'S A SERIES OF CONSIDERATIONS, ONE THAT HAS BEEN ON THE LIST FOR A SUGGESTED SITE AND IS IN AN AREA WITH LOWER SERVICES. IT WILL MEET THAT NEED OF THE VILLAGES AREA BUT IT WILL ALSO BE A REGIONAL FACILITY THAT WOULD ALLOW FOLKS FROM OTHER AREAS.

>> WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS YOU IDENTIFIED FOR THE SAME AREA. VILLAGE REGIONAL PARK.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S LAND THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS DESIGNATED FOR A LARGE REGIONAL

PARK AS WELL AS A LIBRARY. >> I BELIEVE THERE AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO SOMEWHAT OF A TIME COMPONENT. THE TURNWELL PARK HAS BEEN ON THE COUNTY'S BOOKS FOR SOME TIME. IT IS ONE THAT WE HAVE EXPLORED WITH THE COMMUNITY WITH OUR MASTER PLAN AND I BELIEVE IT'S THE HIGHER PRIORITY PROJECT AS IDENTIFIED THROUGH THAT PLAN.

CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG. BUT IT IS CERTAINLY ONE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS HAD AN EXPECTATION

FOR CERTAINLY LONGER THAN THE ACREAGE THERE. >> WHEN WE HAD THE LIBRARY WORKSHOPS, IT WAS STANDING ROOM ONLY. THAT WAS NOT THE CASE IN WORLD GOLF VILLAGE. STAFF IS HERE THAT IMPLEMENTED THE MASTER PLAN.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT. ALSO GOING TO BEACH RESTORATION.

WE HAVE $3 MILLION ALLOCATED >> DO YOU FEEL THAT'S ADWAIT FOR WHAT WE NEED?

>> THE PROJECT WILL BE LARGER THAN THAT WITHOUT A DOUBT. WITH THE FUNDING, I'M ANSWERING

QUESTION BACKWARDS, >> SURE. >> BUT IT IS SOMEWHAT OF A PROCESS OF ELIMINATION AS WE BACKED INTO THE PROJECTS WE HAD, THE GOOD PART IS WE HAVE $15 MILLION. THE BAD PART IS WE ONLY HAVE $15 MILLION.

BEGINNING WITH $3 MILLION, I BELIEVE, SIR IS A GREAT STEP IN THE DIRECTION OF BEGINNING TO FACILITATE A PROJECT THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON PROJECT PLANS FOR.

>> OKAY. WE WILL PROBABLY ARE MORE QUESTIONS.

WE HAD SEVERAL REQUESTS FROM SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH ABOUT THE ROM PARKER PARK AND THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, HAVE Y'ALL BEEN ABLE TO -- HERE WE HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC PROJECT IDENTIFIED. HOWEVER WAS THERE CONSIDERATION TO THE OTHER PROJECTS AS WELL.

I THINK THERE WILL BE MUCH LOWER ON THE MAGNITUDE OF SPENDING. WERE THOSE VIEWED AS INCORPORATED. HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THIS FUNDING REQUEST.

OUR CFP IS A DYNAMIC DOCUMENT AND PROJECTS ARE ADDED TO IT EVERY DAY.

THE BOARD CERTAINLY AND THAT'S WHY I SAID, THE BOARD HAS THE ABILITY TO PICK A PROJECT AND SAY I WANT THIS PROJECT FUNDED. HOWEVER, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT BACKLOG OF CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE COUNTY'S BOOKS FOR SOME TIME. I THINK WE FELT BOTH AS ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF THAT IT WAS OUR OBLIGATION TO BRING TO THE BOARD THINGS THAT THE BOARD HAD ALREADY SIGNED OFF ON, THAT YOU WERE SITTING THERE WITH IN YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT LACKED FUNDING. RATHER BEFORE WE BEGIN TO CONSIDER NEWER

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. >> DARRYL, IS THIS STATE

FEDERAL? >> STATE OR FEDERAL? >> IT MAY BE ONE THAT'S CROSS.

OWNED BY ONE. >> RON PARKER HAS BEGUN. WE ALREADY HAD THAT IN THIS

YEAR'S BUDGET. >> THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS PART OF A LARGER PLAN TOO WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT THE COUNTY OWNS RIGHT THERE.

I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD WANT, OUR OPINION, I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD WANT TO BEGIN INCREMENTALLY MAKING IMPROVEMENTS THERE IF THEY COULD BE OFFSET WITH SHIFTS OF THE OTHER FACILITIES RIGHT THERE ADJACENT TO IT. IT MAY BE SOMETHING WORTH A LITTLE MORE LARGER SCOPE TO LOOK AT. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. I GUESS WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

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>> OPEN IT UP NOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA ITEM 10. IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK, EITHER ONE OR TWO OF THE PODIUMS. IT'S ALL VERY IMPORTANT BUT WE ARE WAY BEHIND TODAY.

>> SPEAKER: I WILL BE FAST. I AM LORI MOFFETT. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING PONTE VEDRA BEACH AS A SOURCE FOR FUNDING. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS AND THANK YOU DARRYL. WE HAVE URGED YOU TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS FOR PONTE VEDRA'S BEACH AND WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT YOU MAY ALLOCATE A MEANINGFUL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO FUND THE DESPERATELY NEEDED RESTORATION OF PONTE VEDRA'S BEACH.

REPRESENTATIVE STEVENSON, SENATOR HUDSON AND RUTHERFORD ARE WAITING FOR COMMITMENT OF LOCAL FUNDING FOR PONTE VEDRA'S BEACH TO FOLLOW YOU ALL IN FUNDING, THE RESTORATION OF THE NORTHERN BEACHES. NO MORE DELAYS PLEASE. WE HAVE A HARD DEADLINE OF NOVEMBER 15TH TO SUBMIT OUR ASK FOR STATE FUNDING FROM THE 2020-2021 STATE BUDGET AND WE IMPLORE YOU ALL TO ALLOCATE A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF THE BUDGET SURPLUS TO GET OUR PROJECT MOVING AND FUNDED. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD FOR THE BENEFIT OF JESSIE AND WADE, IF YOU COULD PUT IN ONE MORE FINAL VOTE FOR THE ROUGHLY $500,000 THAT WAS TO BE REALLOCATED IN THE BED TAX MONEY FROM YOUR MARCH VOTE SO THAT THIS MONEY CAN ALSO BE PART OF OUR MATCH AND ASK FROM THE STATE IN OUR APPLICATION THAT WE WILL SUBMIT HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK.

AND WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE THANK YOU VERY >> THANK YOU.

BEACH AND ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION. I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION FOR INVESTING A PORTION OF THIS SURPLUS INTO OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

WE OBVIOUSLY FEEL OUR PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES ARE ONE OF BEST IN FLORIDA, WE ALSO BELIEVE IT'S A KEY COMPONENT AS TO WHAT MAKES THIS AREA ATTRACTIVE FOR VISITORS AND TRANSPLANTS TO MOVE WITHIN THE AREA. WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE BOARD AND THE ADMINISTRATION CONSIDER IMPROVEMENTS TO DAVIS PARK. PART OF A RENOVATION AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN THAT HAS BEEN OUTLINED IN MEETINGS. I BELIEVE THE LAST ONE WAS IN FEBRUARY. FOR THE REASONS FOR THIS IS THAT WITH THE GROWTH IN NOCATEE, WE OFFER SPORTS ATHLETICS PROGRAMS TO OUR COMMUNITY ARE AT CAPACITY AND WE BELIEVE THE RENOVATIONS AT DAVIS PARK WOULD GIVE US A SOLVE FOR FOUR OF THE SIX SPORTS.

WE ASK YOU RE-CONSIDER THIS AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF SOME OF THE OTHER INVESTMENTS IN THE COUNTY'S MASTER PLAN FOR THIS EXCESS FUNDING HELP US CONTINUE OFFER OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE YOUTH WITHIN NORTHEAST ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: STAFF AN, 147 RIVER MARCH DRIVE PONTE VEDRA. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE PONTE VEDRA SOCCER CLUB AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE YOU POSSIBLY FOCUS ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET TO INCLUDE RENOVATIONS FOR DAVIS PARK. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I HAVE HERE AN EXPANSION PLAN. YOU HAVE A FULL CONCEPT AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN THAT INCLUDES BUILDING A NEW FACILITY THERE. WE ALREADY HAVE SOME ENGINEERING.

YOU ALREADY HAVE FINANCIAL WORK DONE AND I THINK IT WOULD GREATLY HELP PARTICULARLY SOCCER AND OTHER SPORTS THAT THE PREVIOUS PERSON HAS MENTIONED AT DAVIS PARK.

I SPEAK FOR SOCCER AND THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAD TO TURN PEOPLE AWAY BECAUSE WE RAN OUT OF SPACE. THE EXPANSION AT DAVIS PARK WOULD HELP OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE ROOM, AND THE EXPANSION AND LIGHTING OF ONE OF SOCCER FIELDS THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY LIT IN THE BACK WOULD GREATLY HELP ESPECIALLY THIS TIME OF THE YEAR WHEN IT JUST GETS DARK TOO EARLY. I DO BELIEVE THE DAVIS PARK IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH IN THIS AREA OF THE COUNTY AND A LOT OF THE KIDS GO TO SCHOOL IN THIS AREA.

I DON'T THINK THAT CONSTRUCTING A PARK IN THE VILLAGES AREA WOULD NECESSARILY ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT CONSTRAINT BECAUSE PEOPLE MOST LIKELY WILL NOT TRY TO TRAVEL AS FAR.

THEY TEND TO STAY LOCAL AS PART OF SOCCER, MOST OF THE KIDS WHERE WE HAVE THE MOST GROWTH ARE THE YOUNG FAMILIES AND YOUNG CHILDREN MOVING IN IN AREA THAT LIVE RIGHT AROUND THE 210 CORRIDOR, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT FROM 95 ALL THE WAY THROUGH NOCATEE AND PONTE VEDRA.

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I DO ASK THAT YOU SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THE EXPANSIONS AT DAVIS PARK THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: YES, MA'AM. >> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU. I AM SUSAN NEWMAN, THE AREA WHERE THIS LIBRARY WILL BE POSSIBLY BUILT. I THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION AND I CONSIDER IT A VERY BIG PRIORITY. WE ARE WEST OF 95 AND AS FAR AS FACILITIES AND THINGS, WE ARE DEVOID OF THINGS. WE DO NOT HAVE A POST OFFICE.

WE JUST FINALLY GOT A HARDWARE STORE. HAVING A LIBRARY AND A PARK WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL. WE JUST BUILT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND WE HAVE THREE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THE AREA. ONE IS BEING NOW A KINDERGARTEN THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE.

WHICH IS HALF MIDDLE SCHOOL. WE HAVE TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND THE HIGH SCHOOL WILL BE BUILT IN THE AREA. OF THESE SCHOOLS, I'M ALSO PART OF BLESSINGS IN A BACK PACK.

THERE ARE CHILDREN DESIGNATED AS NOT HAVING FOOD FOR THE WEEKEND. HAVING A LIBRARY WOULD HELP THE FAMILIES AS WELL AS THE CHILDREN TO UTILIZE THE LIBRARY. LEARN ABOUT THE LIBRARY, HAVING THE COMPUTERS IN THE LIBRARY AND CLASSES AND SEMINARS AND SPEAKERS THAT THE LIBRARY USUALLY HAS. THE PARK IS ALSO EXTREMELY NEEDED.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY PARKS UNLESS IT'S WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES AND THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS THE BEST FOR OUTSIDE PEOPLE. WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE NOCATEE, THEY HAVE A LOT TO OFFER ALREADY. WHERE WE ARE, IT IS NOT. I IMPLORE AND URGE YOU TO PLEASE GO FORTH WITH THIS PROJECT THERE. THANK YOU.

>> PLEASE COME ON UP. COME ON UP AND STAGE UP. >> SPEAKER: I'M DEB CHAPIN.

I LIVE AT 531 NORTH WILDERNESS TRAIL. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE PV GREEN WAY ALLIANCE AND RECREATION ADVISORY MEMBER. I STOPPED DOWN TODAY BECAUSE I'M A BIG ADVOCATE AS YOU ALL KNOW OF OUTDOOR RECREATION, COMPETITIVE AND PASSIVE RECREATION. AND I REALLY WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THE IMPACTS IN TERMS OF BUDGETING, SOME THINGS TO IMPROVE SOME OF THESE NOT JUST WHAT IS ON THIS BOARD UP HERE, BUT ALSO MAYBE SOME SMALLER POCKET PARKS TO YOU KNOW CONNECT PEOPLE AND PERHAPS DO MORE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN STEP UP. WE HAVE A LOT OF PROFESSIONALS AND TALENTED PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE BUILDERS AND CONTRACTORS THAT WANT TO HELP.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AN ESSENTIAL VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY AND I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE IN MY OPINION. SO, RECENTLY WE COMPLETED A PROJECT THAT WAS REALLY UNCHARTED TERRITORY WITH NUMEROUS LEVELS BETWEEN STATE, FEDERAL AND THE COUNTY AND A LOT OF PRIVATE ENTITIES AND PRIVATE PEOPLE.

IT'S A HUGE SUCCESS. I WOULD LOVE TO SHOW YOU A PICTURE.

CAN I DO IT HERE? >> THIS IS MICHLER'S WHARF. GOT A BEAUTIFUL FLAG DONATED BY SOMEBODY AND A BEAUTIFUL WHARF FREE TO THE COUNTY. HOPEFULLY WE CAN STREAM LINE THE PROCESS. I HOPE YOU IT COME UP AND SEE IT.

OKAY. RUNNING OUT OF TIME HERE. SO, MY GOAL HERE IS TO SEE HOW CAN WE STREAM LINE AND CREATE MORE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND GET MORE SUPPORT FOR THAT.

FINANCIALLY THERE'S ALL THESE PRIORITIES AND EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN AGENDA.

WE WORK WITH NUMEROUS GROUPS LOBBYING FOR OFF ROAD BICYCLING OR EQUESTRIANS OR BOATERS.

I THINK THERE'S KIND OF, UNDER TOW THAT'S HAPPENING AND WE JUST WANT YOU TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PROFESSIONALS AND TALENTED PEOPLE AND ASK FOR YOUR FLEXIBILITY WITH THE BUDGET AS THINGS CAN BE SHIFTED IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE. IF IT'S READY TO GO, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW I THINK I HOPE THAT CAN BE BUILT INTO THE AGREEMENT AND ALSO, MY BEEP

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NEED IN EXCHANGE FOR USE -- >> THANK YOU. >> AND BRING IN SPORTS TOURISM OPPORTUNITIES. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED

>> >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: HI HEY MR. CHARLES. >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, I'M CHARLES ELERS.

I THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GET UP TO TALK ABOUT FORT MOSAY, AS YOU KNOW IS ONE OF OLDEST BLACK FREE SETTLEMENTS IN NORTH AMERICA. THE PROJECT WE HAVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS TO RESTORE THE ORIGINAL FORT. THE RESTORATION AND FORT WILL ENHANCE WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. CURRENTLY WE HAVE A MUSEUM WHICH HAS AN INTERPRETIVE SYSTEM WHICH IS GREAT. ONCE FOLKS SEE THE MUSEUM AND THEY GO THROUGH THE INTERPRETIVE CENTER AND INTERPRETS THE CENTER, THE NEXT QUESTION IS WHERE IS THE FORT? THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAVE MADE AN EFFORT TO TRY TO FUND THIS.

FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN HOLDING GOLF TOURNAMENTS TO FUND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. WE CERTAINLY WANT TO HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION WILL SORT OF ADD THIS TO THAT LIST OF PROJECTS TO FUND. I WOULD PUT SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH THAT. THIS RIGHT HERE IS A SKETCH RIGHT NOW AS TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TO DO RIGHT NOW. THIS IS A COMPLETE LAYOUT AND OF COURSE, WE JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED THE ESTIMATES, A COST ESTIMATE TO BUILD THIS FORT. THE COST ESTIMATE TO BUILD THIS FORT IS AT $472,000. WE HAVE A DEAL WITH THE PARK WHICH IS CALLED THE PARKS AND PARTNERS. THE -- OKAY. THANK YOU.

WE ARE A BROTHER ZERO LEVEL. I WANT TO MAKE THAT NOTE. RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT $50,000 AND GOT A DONATION FROM DRUMMONDS NORTH FORK. OUR GOAL IS TO BUILD THIS WITH THE INTENT OF HAVING A INTERPRETIVE CENTER FOR KIDS. IT'S REQUIRED HISTORY FOR FOURTH AND 5TH GRADERS. WITH THIS PROJECT, WE FEEL THAT IT WILL CERTAINLY ENHANCE THE PARK, THIS PAST YEAR WE HAD OVER 85,000 VISITORS TO VISIT THE PARK.

WE HAVE TWO MAIN EVENTS WE PUT ON EACH YEAR. FLIGHT TO FREEDOM IN FEBRUARY.

WE HAVE THE BLOODY BATTLE WHICH COMES UP IN JUNE. ALL OF THESE PROJECTS ARE DESIGNED TO ENHANCE AND ALSO TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

WE ARE AT ABOUT 50,000 THOUSAND. >> THANK YOU THERE ELLISON. >> THANK YOU.

>> AND MR. ELLIS. IF WE COULD HAVE YOUR EXHIBIT TO THE LEFT.

>> YOU WILL HAVE TO GIVE THEM YOUR PICTURE TO PUT ON PUBLIC RECORD.

>> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M JANA PATTON OF CRESCENT BEACH AND REPORTING THE ST.

JOHNS CIVIC ROUND TABLE ASSOCIATION WHICH IS A CONSORTIUM OF COUNTY WIDE HOAS.

IN SEPTEMBER WE ADOPTED AND SENT TO YOU A RESOLUTION ASKING THE COMMISSION TO RE-ESTABLISH FUNDING FOR THE LAMP PROGRAM. LAND ACQUISITION AND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.

AND AS YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN DORMANT FOR SOME TIME. WE BELIEVE THIS IS AN IDEAL TIME TO PROVIDE AND SEED MONEY FOR THAT PROGRAM WITH YOUR SURPLUS. AND LAND ACQUISITION OF ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LAND HAS RECENTLY HAD ENORMOUS GRASS ROOTS INVOLVEMENT AND SUPPORT AS WE HAVE SEEN WITH FISH ISLAND AND THE OUTPOST. AS WE ALL KNOW, MATCHING FUNDS ARE ESSENTIAL IF THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN SECURING STATE FUNDING WHICH MEETS ONE OF YOUR PARAMETERS. WE ALSO SUPPORT THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A VOLUNTARY

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AS THIS WAS FIRST SUGGESTED BY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR

CONSIDERATION OF THIS. AND WE THANK YOU >> THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: >> GARB GAFRP GOURD GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD. I AM SHANE PRESIDENT OF THE PONTE VEDRA ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION. GRWTH IS A GREAT THEM. DEMONSTRATED GROWTH IS A WONDERFUL THING. RIGHT NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING THE PUN PART OF THAT.

I HAVE LIVED IN NOCATEE AND SEEING IT BUILT HAS BEEN A COOL THING TO WATCH.

WE'RE SEEING THE STRUGGLE. SPACE CONSTRAINTS AND WE HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT DAVIS AND CORNER STONE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU POINTED OUT NOCATEE.

THERE'S A HUGE OPPORTUNITY THERE. IF I'M SITTING ON THAT BOARD, I'M THINKING FROM A BUSINESS POINT OF VIEW. WHERE DO I WANT TO INVEST THE DOLLARS I HAVE? THINKING ABOUT THE FACT THIS AREA HAS GROWN SO FAST, CONTINUES TO GROW, THE YOUNG PEOPLE OF THAT COMMUNITY HAS THEY CONTINUE TO COME UP WE HAVE GOT EVERYBODY FROM FOUR YEAR OLDS THROUGH 16 PLAYS IN OUR PARKS.

WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE. JUST YESTERDAY I GET A PHONE CALL FROM A COACH TELLING ME I CAN'T PRACTICE. WHY CAN'T YOU PRACTICE? DON'T HAVE ROOM.

THAT'S SEVEN AND EIGHT YEARS OLD TRYING TO PLAY BASEBALL IN THE FALL.

YOU CANNOT TEACH SOME OF THESE LESSONS WE TEACH ON ANY OTHER PLACE BUT BETWEEN STRIPE.

THAT'S JUST TRUE. THAT'S WHERE I CAME UP. THESE KIDS NEED A FIRST CLASS FACILITY. IUNDERSTAND PROJECTS HAVE BEEN ON THE TABLE FOR LONGER AND I RESPECT THIS. THE GROWTH WE'RE SEEING IN NOCATEE AND PONTE VEDRA, THAT'S A WINDOW OF WHO WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY. PEOPLE TALK ABOUT TOURNAMENT BALL. A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT SHOULDN'T BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. OUR FACILITIES WHEN PEOPLE COME INTO OUR NECK OF WOODS AND SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, A SHOW PLACE. NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT'S SUFFICIENT, I'M TALKING ABOUT A SHOW PLACE, THAT'S A PLACE I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND TIME.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU. I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF VERY IMPORTANT PROJECTS ON THE TABLE AND I UNDERSTAND THIS. A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO. I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER DAVIS PARK THOSE AREAS AS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND A GREAT PLACE FOR YOU TO INVEST THE DOLLARS.

BECAUSE I THINK WE FRANKLY OWE IT TO THE KIDS TO BRING IT UP TO PAR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE. APPRECIATE IT.

>> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON GENTLEMEN. I AM ROGER MINCE.

I LIVE AT 952 SPINAKER'S DRIVE. I HAVE NEIGHBORS WITH ME. WOULD YOU LIKE TO STAND UP? INTERESTED IN THE BEACH RENOURISHMENT. LET THE RECORD SHOW IT'S QUITE A FEW. TODAY IS A DAY TO CONSIDER BEACH RENOURISHMENT.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT PONTE VEDRA. THERE'S A STRONG BREEZE AND THE BREAKERS ARE ROLLING IN. IF YOU WANT TO ENJOY A BEACH THE WAY IT'S MEANT TO BE ENJOYED.

YOU BETTER CONSULT YOUR TIDE TABLES. AT HIGH TIDE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND A BEACH. YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THIS. YOU'VE GOT TO GET AT IT AND GET

AT IT THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS KATE CADEN CASPER, I LIVE AT 109 BLUE FISH AVENUE PONTE VEDRA. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR CONSIDERING THE BEACH RESTORATION PROGRAM FOR NORTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH. SO PEOPLE ONLY MOVE TO PONTE VEDRA BEACH FOR ONE REASON, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY THE BEACH. SO IT ONLY MAKES SENSE THAT WE PROTECT WHAT MAKES OUR CITY SO ATTRACTIVE IN THE FIRST PLACE. SINCE THE 1980S, PONTE VEDRA BEACH HAS LOST 2.5 MILLION CUBIC YARDS OF SAND AND 135 FEET OF WIDTH.

YEAR AFTER YEAR PONTE VEDRA BEACH HAS BEEN BATTERED BY STORMS AND HURRICANES.

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>> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS THOMAS JACKSON.

917 CHIPPEWA STREET. I PROBABLY WON'T USE THE WHOLE THREE MINUTES.

I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSION NOT THIS PARTICULAR BOARD ITSELF BUT THE BOARD BACK IN 1994 WHO PURCHASED THE LAND THAT WHERE FORT MOSAY SITTING NOW. IT'S A COUNTY PROPERTY IN THE CITY LIMITS BUT IT'S MANAGED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THE PARK SERVICE.

SO IF THE MONEYS WERE ALLOCATED FOR THE ENHANCING OF THE FORT, THE STATE WOULD ACTUALLY MAINTAIN THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WHICH WOULD RELIEVE THE COUNTY OF PUTTING IN MAINTENANCE DOLLARS INTO THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW AT THAT PARTICULAR SITE, THEY WERE TWO MAJOR BATTLES TO SAVE THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND THE FORT SITE.

WE ARE SAVING MONEY AND THE FORT WILL BE BUILT. I WANT TO MENTION FORT MOSE IS IN THE COUNTY PROPERTY. WE HAVE A NATIONAL DESIGNATION AND RECOGNIZE THIS YEAR BY UNESTO. UNITED NATIONED CULTURAL ASSOCIATION.

WE WANT TO DO, WE WANT VISITORS FROM OTHER CITIES, WE WANT TO SHOW THEM SOMETHING WE CAN BE PROUD OF IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT MIND.

KEEP US ON YOUR MIND. >> THANK YOU MR. JACKSON. >> SPEAKER: HI, MY NAME IS MELANIE SIMCO. 573 WORLD LEGACY TRAIL IN THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE.

I THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THE VILLAGING REGIONAL LIBRARY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE VILLAGES REGIONAL PARK. I KNOW WE HAVE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE GROWTH IN NOCATEE.

THERE IS A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE. MANY RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN. WE HAVE THE BEST, EXCUSE ME, SCHOOL SYSTEM IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND I THINK WE NEED TO BACK IT UP WITH LIBRARIES AND WITH PARKS AND RECREATION AND AGAIN AS THE LADY FROM TRAILMARK MENTIONED EARLIER, WE ARE WEST OF 95, WE ARE REALLY IN AN AREA THAT IS UNDERSERVED.

IT TAKES A GOOD 25 MINUTES FOR ME TO GET TO THE NEAREST ST. JOHNS PUBLIC LIBRARY AND I'M A RETIRED LIBRARIAN. LIBRARIES ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

I UTILIZED THE BOOK MOBILE BUT THAT JUST IS NOT SUFFICIENT. WE HAVE GOT SCHOOLS BEING BUILT.

WE HAVE PEOPLE, FAMILIES MOVING IN. LIBRARIES ARE IMPORTANT FOR ALL AGE GROUPS AND I FIRMLY BELIEVE OUR AREA IS IN NEED AND I AM SO HAPPY TO SEE THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING THAT AND I REALLY HOPE THAT IT HAPPENS FOR US. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS JANE MAHONEY. DR. JANE MAHONEY. I LIVE AT 417 INOG WOOD DRIVE

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WHAT DID I KNOW ABOUT THE STORY UNTIL I GOT HERE? DO YOU KNOW THERE WAS IN THE FIRST GROUP WHO ARRIVED AT FORT MOSE HAVING ESCAPED ENSLAVEMENT AND WALKED ON FOOT THROUGH MARSH LAND. AMONG THE SURVIVORS WAS A WOMAN WITH A THREE-YEAR OLD NURSING CHILD AT HER BREAST. IT'S AN AMAZING STORY THAT SPEAKS OF THE QUALITY AND IMPORTANCE OF FREEDOM IN OUR LAND AND THERE IS NO STORY LIKE IT.

ANYWHERE. SO I JUST STRONGLY URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: HELLO, MY NAME IS CAROL REINHARDT.

I LIVE AT 597 NORTH LEGACY TRAIL. MELANIE IS MY NEIGHBOR, AND BOTH OF US FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A LIBRARY NEAR IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR TWO YEARS. WHEN I MOVED IN, I WAS VERY SHOCKED TO FIND OUT THAT I HAD TO DRIVE 25, 30 MINUTES TO THE CLOSEST LIBRARY.

I HAVE NEVER LIVED IN AN AREA WHERE I HAD TO DRIVE THAT FAR. WHEN WE HAD WANT REPRESENTATIVE COME TO THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE, I WAS ONE OF PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED THE MEETING, AND I WAS SHOCKED AGAIN TO LEARN THAT THIS AREA WAS RECOMMENDED TO HAVE A LIBRARY 25 YEARS AGO.

SO I THINK IT'S ABOUT TIME AND JUST TO KIND OF PUT THINGS IN A LITTLE BIT OF PERSPECTIVE, THE NORTH COAST YMCA OPENED UP NOT TOO LONG AGO. INSTANTLY THEY WERE PEOPLE THERE AT THE DOOR AND THEY'RE STILL COMING. I KNOW NOCATEE IS A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY AND HAVE GREAT RESOURCES BUT GIVEN THE LOCATION OF ALL THE NEW COMMUNITIES THAT ARE BUILDING AROUND US, PLUS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY THERE, THERE IS A MOST URGENT AND

DEFINITE >> THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M MAUREEN LONG 1821 CASTEEL STREET. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF SMART GROWTH IN A WAY TO PRESERVE OUR COMMUNITY. WHILE PRESERVING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE IN RURAL AREAS, ECOLOGICAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL TREASURES. WE ASK YOU TO REINSTATE THE LAND ACWI SIG PROGRAM. IT'S ON -- ACQUISITION PROGRAM. THE LAMP PROGRAM WILL ONCE AGAIN BEGIN AND THRIVE. NOW THE COUNTY HAS A SURPLUS, WHAT BETTER TIME TO REINSTATE THE LAMP PROGRAM. GREEN WAYS TRAILS AND EFFORTS TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF ECOLOGICAL SYSTEMS THAT PROVIDE BENEFITS INCLUDING PRESERVATION OF HABITAT.

SPACE FOR URBAN AND RURAL AREAS AND WATER RETARD. WE WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO EXAMINE ESTABLISHING A VOLUNTARY CONTRIBUTION PROGRAM SO OUR CITIZENS CAN INVEST IN SECURING AND CONSERVING THE COUNTY'S UN UN

UNIQUE ECOLOGICAL AREA. >> GOOD AFTERNOON I AM KATHY STOLEBERG.

107 LEGACY DRIVE IN TRAIL MARK. OUR COMMUNITY OF ONLY 200 HOMES GOING TO 2000 HOMES IS SUPPORTING BLESSINGS IN A BACK PACK TO SUPPORT FOOD FOR NEEDY CHILDREN ON THE WEEKENDS.

SOME OF THOSE CHILDREN LIVE IN MOBILE HOMES WHICH IS PREDOMINANT NOW WEST OF 95.

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THEY NEED PARKS. WE NEED RECREATION. WE NEED LIBRARIES AND WE ALSO NEED SIDEWALKS BETWEEN ROUTES 208 AND 16. GAPS BETWEEN THERE ARE GAPS FOR THE SAFETY OF CHILDREN. THERE ARE THREE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, ONE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

ONE HIGH SCHOOL GOING IN. THERE ARE DEFINITELY A NEED FOR A LIBRARY SPECIFICALLY.

WE ALSO NEED SIDEWALKS TO SUPPLEMENT THE THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 10. >> OKAY.

>> COUPLE OBSERVATIONS. I WANT TO ASK STAFF, CAN YOU GET WITH FORT MOSE, IT HAS GOTTEN MORE COMPLICATED SINCE WE OWNED PROPERTY. IT'S A CITY-STATE THING.

IF THEY WERE TO GET THE FUNDS TO BUILD IT, WHO WOULD OPERATE AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING WITH THE STATE THEY WOULD DO ALL THE MAINTENANCE REPAIRS THAT KIND OF STUFF AND MAKE SURE. I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE DOING ANYTHING TODAY WITH THAT.

TO HELP THEM GET TDC GRANTS AND MOVE THEM FORWARD TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PAGE OF THAT.

QUESTION FOR PARKS AND REC. ON DAVIS PARK, HOW FAR THE RENOVATION AND JESSE OR DARRYL.

HOWEVER ARE WE FROM THE IMPACT FEES WE HAVE COLLECTED IS NEEDED TO DO THE EXPANSION? YES, SIR, DOUG PATEL. FOR DAVIS PARK, WE'RE AT 70% FOR DESIGN.

COST ESTIMATE IS THERE IS HIGH AT ABOUT $3 MILLION. MAINLY BECAUSE WE'RE BUILDING ONE VERY LARGE FIELD. A LARGE PARKING AREA, SEPARATE RESTROOM AND WALKING AROUND THE PARK. IT'S A HIGH BUDGET FOR WHAT IS DESIGNED.

SO IMPACT FEES, YOU KNOW WE'RE I THINK A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION IN THAT ZONE PER YEAR FOR IMPACT

FEES. >> JESSE, IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? I SEE YOU HAVE ALL KINDS OF

PAPERS. >> A LITTLE LESS THAN THAT. I WOULD SAY, AGAIN IMPACT FEES VARIES. I WOULD SAY BETWEEN $500,000 TO A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. WE'RE PROJECTING LOWER, $600,000 IN FISCAL YEAR 2020.

WITH A RESERVE OF A LITTLE LESS THAN $1 MILLION. >> OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR? I THINK IT'S OBVIOUSLY WE DEFINITELY NEED TO SUPPORT WORLD GOLF VILLAGES. THIS AREA HAS NEEDED A PARK AND LIBRARY. MY CONCERN IS WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS.

THIS IS A BALANCING ACT. THIS IS NOT PITTING ONE PART OF THE COUNTY TO ANOTHER.

AT THE SAME TIME I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DISTRIBUTING THOSE DOLLARS AS EQUALLY AS POSSIBLE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF STAFF COULD LOOK AT, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE VILLAGES REGIONAL LIBRARY, WHICH IS IMPORTANT. THE OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY WE WANT TO ADDRESS AS WELL THAT HAVE A NEED. IT MAKES SENSE TO DO THAT FOR THE VILLAGES. WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE VILLAGES, THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOME TIME. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOR THE VILLAGES REGIONAL PARK TO ALSO ADDRESS OUR NEEDS IN DAVIS PARK AS WELL. THOSE CONCERNS ARE REAL AND JUST AS VALUED AT WHAT IS GOING ON THERE. MY CONCERN IS WE'RE PUTTING IN TWO MAJOR PARKS. WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH, NOCATEE.

WE HAVE ONE PARK --

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>> WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES AS THEY ACCUMULATE.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT IS AVAILABLE FOR THE STAFF. BUT THE DIRECTION WAS GIVEN BY THE BOARD TO DESIGN THE DAVIS PARK, WHICH I THINK THE DESIGN ITSELF IS A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND

DOLLARS. >> OKAY. >> I THINK THAT ANSWERS THE

QUESTION. >> I WOULD TO SEE IF THE BOARD WOULD THUS HEAR, IF WE'RE CLOSE ON DAVIS PARK DESIGN. IF WE TOOK THE $1.58 MILLION FROM THE TAX COLLECTOR AND PUT IN THE SAME SET UP. PUT TOWARD DAVIS PARK RENOVATION WITH THE IMPACT FEES.

MAYBE A PRIVATE INDUSTRY OUT HERE. MAYBE SOMETHING TO CLOSE THE GAP. THAT PUTS US 400,000 THOUSAND DOLLARS.

MAYBE NEXT YEAR BEFORE WE HAVE TO CAP THE FUNDS. >> COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE THE

ABILITY TO DO THAT. WE DON'T. >> I WOULD SAY THAT I AM GOOD WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE BOARD.

>> I AGREE THEN MR. CHAIRMAN. I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE. >> OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDING MATRIX AS PRESENTED?

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THERE MAYBE A REVISED MOTION, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> IS THERE? >> MR. CHAIR. CAN I ASK A QUESTION BASED ON

YOUR COMMENT? >> SURE. ARE WE MAKING A MOTION TO

INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL MONEY AND DAVIS PARK? >> I SEE THAT SEPARATE.

IF THE BOARD IS NOT OKAY WITH EITHER ONE. YOU KNOW ONE THING TOO ON THE BEACH RESTORATION, I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT THAT TOTAL COST IS GOING TO BE WHEN HE HEAR FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. YOU KNOW, SO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

DUNE PROJECTS, RESTORATION AND RENOURISHMENT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS

ON THE BOARD. >> THAT WAS THE NEXT TO THE LAST SLIDE DARRYL WENT OVER.

WE HAVE TO DO ENGINEERING AND DESIGN ON ALL THESE PROJECTS. WE WILL HAVE TO BRING THEM BACK INDIVIDUALLY AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SURPRISED BY INCREASING COSTS.

>> CAN I GET A MOTION? >> COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> I HAVE A QUESTION IN REGARD TO THAT. IF WE COME BACK AND THESE ARE UP TOO AT THIS POINT.

I ASSUME THERE COULD BE A POTENTIAL SAVINGS AS WELL? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> IF THERE'S A POTENTIAL SAVINGS, LET'S TAKE THEM ONE PROJECT AT A TIME.

NOT BITE OFF MORE THAN WE CAN CHEW AND PUT THE EXTRA MONEYS TOWARD AN ADDITIONAL PROJECT.

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>> THAT'S CORRECT. COMMISSIONER <.> >> IS THIS A ROAD MAP BY WHICH EACH ITEM WOULD COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND BE VETTED BY THE COMMUNITY WITH THE DETAILS OR IS THIS WE'RE ALLOCATING THIS FUNDING FOR THESE PROJECTS AND HERE'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS

EXPECTING TO RECEIVE OVER A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD? >> COMMISSIONER, I THINK IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, WE WOULD TAKE THE DIRECTION GIVEN TODAY BY THE BOARD.

WE WOULD GO DO ENGINEERING DESIGN ON PROJECTS AND BRING THEM BACK TO THE BOARD AND SAY, HERE'S THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT. ARE YOU HAPPY WITH IT? HERE ARE THE FINANCIAL PARAMETERS. AND GIVE US A GREEN LIGHT TO GO

THROUGH OUR NORMAL PROCESS. >> SO WHAT PORTION OF $15 MILLION WILL BE NEEDED JUST

FOR THE DESIGN? NOT FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION? >> THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO TAKE THE $15 MILLION AND PUT IT IN A SPECIAL SEGREGATED ACCOUNT FOR THESE PROJECTS.

>> OKAY. SO. WE'LL DRAW DOWN ON THAT AS THE EXPENDITURES OCCUR AND MOST, IF NOT ALL COME TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR

APPROVAL. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE CAN HAVE A REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF WHAT THEY WILL RECEIVE FOR THE EXPENDITURE FOR THIS ONE-TIME FUNDING AND OVER WHAT TIME PERIOD TO EXPECT TO RECEIVE IT. SO MUCH OF THE CONVERSATIONS IS FOCUSED ON THE END RESULT NOT REALIZING THERE'S MAJOR GAPS IN THE PATH TO ACHIEVE THE RESULT.

I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE MISLED AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS TRYING TO DO SO.

WE NEED THIS OR THAT, THIS MONEY MAY NOT ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS. IT'S INCREMENTAL BUT WILL NOT ACHIEVE THE GOAL. IN THE ANALYSIS WITH THE DESIGN. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE COST WILL BE AND WHERE THE MONEY WILL COME FROM BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT, ANTICIPATED PARK MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FOR FEES FOR THE STRUCTURE OF THE PROGRAM.

WE SHOULD HAVE ALREADY HAD THAT PROGRAM IN PLACE FOR DECADES. WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING ALLOCATED FOR MAINTENANCE OF CERTAIN FACILITIES. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE IN THE CONDITION THEY'RE IN. NOT CASTIGATING ANYONE, DURING THE RECESSION, EXPENSES WERE CUT BACK SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO LAY PEOPLE OFF OR COMPLETELY STOP CERTAIN SERVICES.

WE HAVE NOT RESUMED A LOT OF SERVICES DUE IN PART TO THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CHANGING THE RULES ON HOW WE ACQUIRE FUNDING TO DO SO. AS THE VALUES OF PROPERTIES ROSE, THE TAXES COLLECTED HAVE NOT RISEN PROPORTIONALLY. IT DID BEFORE THE RECESSION AND NOT AFTERWARDS. WE ARE CAUGHT TO MANAGE EXISTING CONSTRUCTIVE FACILITIES WITHOUT THE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO MANAGE THEM. ADDITIONAL CAPITAL EXPENSES ON TOP OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE IS A REAL CONCERN TO ME. WE'RE GOING TO BITE OFF MORE

THAN WE CAN SWALLOW AND MAINTAIN ADEQUATELY. >> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH.

AFTER THE RECESSION ENDED, FOR A VERY LONG PERIOD UNTIL UP NOW, WE HAVE NOT BUILT SUBSTANTIAL NEW FACILITIES. WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND IT WAS ONE OF THE STATEMENTS ON ONE OF SLIDES, WE HAVE REINVESTED PRIMARILY IN MAINTENANCE. WE THINK WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE WE'RE WATCHING UP AND IN GOOD SHAPE. THE ANNUAL ALLOWANCES THAT THE BOARD PROVIDES FOR MAINTENANCE IS ALLOWING US TO ACCOMPLISH MOST OF WHAT WE NEED.

NOW IS THE TIME TO MAKE THE TURN IN OUR OPINION. YOU HAVE TO DO WITH THE SAME FRAME OF MIND. THERE ARE COSTS FAR BEYOND BUILDING FACILITIES.

>> SURE. I WANT TO SAY AGAIN. THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF FOR HAVING A BUDGET SURPLUS THIS YEAR. WHEN I FIRST JOINED THE BOARD, THE PRIMARY CONVERSATION BY THE COMMISSIONERS WAS, WE'RE GOING TO HIT A FINANCIAL WALL AND REGRET IT IF WE DON'T CHANGE THE WAY WE'RE DOING THINGS. THAT STATEMENT WAS NOT TRUE.

AND IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF ANY THREATS, IT WAS SIMPLY YOU DOING YOUR JOBS AS WELL AS THE TAX COLLECTOR DEMONSTRATED TODAY, THE FUNDING THAT HE'S GIVING BACK IS AVAILABLE DUE TO THEIR EFFORTS TO MINIMIZE THE COST TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. YOU HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME THING OVER THE YEARS COMING OUT OF THE RECESSION. LONG BEFORE I CAME ON THE BOARD.

I'M NOT TAKING CREDIT. THIS GOES TO STAFF REACHING OUT TO THE PUBLIC IN ORDER TO HAVE A SURPLUS THIS YEAR. I CONDUCTED TWO MEETINGS AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR.

TWO MONTHS APART AND INVITED ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY TO COME TO THE MEETING TO SAY LET ME KNOW WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE. EXACTLY AS WE DISCUSSED TODAY. THE PURPOSE WAS NOT TO FIND FUNDING BUT SIMPLY SO EVERYBODY WITH A VERY SPECIFIC EXPERTISE OF A NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY COULD TALK ABOUT THEIR NEED. AND JUST IN THAT TWO, TWO HOUR MEETINGS, PEOPLE HEARD OF NEEDS THEY NEVER KNEW EXISTED IN OUR COMMUNITY. THROUGH THAT DIALOGUE THAT STARTED WITH ONE MEETING CONTINUED FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY

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THEY'RE NOT IF WE HAD A WINNING LOTTERY TICKET. IT'S REAL NEEDS TO MEET THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND HEALTH AND SAFETY AND WELFARE. APPLAUD YOU FOR BEING EXPERTS IN YOU'RE AREA. WE WILL ALL WIN IF YOU COLLABORATE TOGETHER AND PRIORITIZE YOUR NEEDS AS A COUNTY, NOT INDIVIDUALLY EXPERTISE AND COME TO US, THIS IS AN ORDER IN WHICH WE WOULD LIKE THESE THINGS ADDRESSED. NOT JUST FOR THIS 1, $15 MILLION OPPORTUNITY ABOUT ON GOING. WHEN WE HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE. APPLY TO THIS AND THEN TO THIS.

OR TO SHARE THE POT. WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE THIS MUCH AND GIVE THIS MUCH TO THIS GROUP. YOU WILL GET A LOT MORE AND MORE QUICKLY FROM THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT NOT JUST FROM THE BOARD WHO HAS THE FINAL SAY. THAT WILL BE A TREMENDOUS HELP TO EVERY DIRECTOR TO HELP YOUR NEEDS BE MET. RATHER THAN EACH INDIVIDUALLY COMING UP HERE AND SAYING I NEED THIS. I NEED THIS.

YOU'RE ALL NEEDING THE SAME DOLLAR. OBVIOUSLY IT WON'T SPREAD TO EVERY SINGLE NEED THAT'S BEEN EXPRESSED. YOU'RE SITTING ALL IN THE ROOM SHOULDER TO SHOULDER CIVILLY AND PROFESSIONALLY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE THE MEETINGS THAT I STARTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AMONG YOURSELF AND I OR STAFF WOULD BE GLAD TO COLLABORATE THE MEETINGS TO PRIORITIZE THOSE NEEDS AND DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE. IT WILL MAKE OUR JOBS TO DECIDE WHERE THE MONEY GOES AS THE WORK IS BEING DESIGNED SIMULTANEOUSLY TO WHERE IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. THE DESIGN IS ONE OF MANY ASPECTS. BUT TO ACTUALLY PUT IT INTO PLACE.

WE DON'T WANT A REPEAT AT MICHLER'S LANDING. WE TALKED ABOUT A SIMPLIFICATION OF MONTHS OF DIALOGUE. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY MADE WHAT HAPPENED AT MICHLER'S BEACH PARKING LOT HAPPEN ON PURPOSE THE WAY IT WAS EXPERIENCED. BUT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT NECESSARILY DIALOGUED AMONG EVERYBODY THAT'S AFFECTED BY IT. THIS IS THE RESULT.

IF YOU WILL HAVE THE DIALOGUE AMONG YOU AS EXPERTS. RESULTS I PROMISE WILL BE MORE APPEALING TO MAJORITY OF THE COUNTY INSTEAD OF JUST TO ONE GROUP AND NOT THE OTHER GROUPS.

WE CANNOT DO THAT AS A BOARD. STAFF CANNOT REACH OUT TO EVERYBODY ONE-ON-ONE.

WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY FOR $15 MILLION OR OUR ANNUAL BUDGET.

I ENCOURAGED PEOPLE IN MANY PARTS OF THE NORTHWEST TO COME TOGETHER AND FIND A WAY TO COLLABORATIVELY MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR VERY FAST-GROWING COMMUNITY.

SOME HAVE TAKEN ME UP ON THE RECOMMENDATION AND DRAMATICALLY BENEFITTED NOT ME FROM TELLING THEM TO WHERE TO SPEND MONEY OR GET RESOURCES, FOR THEM COMING UP WITH THE IDEAS BEYOND MY THOUGHTS AND STAFF'S THOUGHTS. OUT OF THE BOX THINKING. THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WERE VERY PLEASED WITH THE SHORT TERM AND LONG-TERM RESULTS. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME IN COMING TO TELL US WHAT YOU WANT INDIVIDUALLY. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY WITH A GROUP MENTALITY OF HOW TO SPEND THE $15 MILLION, FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE PROJECTS IF NOT ALL OF THEM IN SOME PART OR PIECE. IT WILL TRULY MAKE OUR COUNTY CONTINUE TO BE NUMBER ONE SHORT TERM AND LONG-TERM IN THE EVER GROWING NEEDS AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND THE EXPECTATIONS OF COMMUNITY CONTINUE TO CHANGE IN WHAT YOU WANT GOVERNMENT TO PROVIDE ON YOUR BEHALF. I WILL GET OFF MY SOAP BOX MR. CHAIR.

I WANTED TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THANK YOU AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO WORK AMONG YOURSELF SO WE CAN ALL BENEFIT FROM YOUR WONDERFUL IDEAS AND RECOGNIZE THOSE NEEDS AND HOW TO

MAKE >> THANK YOU. LEGAL.

>> MR. CHAIR. I WANTED TO GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER JOHNS' ORIGINAL QUESTION. IF YOU CAN SEE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU.

THE LAST LINE. ONCE PROJECTS ARE SELECTED, THEY WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD FOR BOARD APPROVAL THROUGH THE COUNTY'S STANDARD. THAT IS THE UNDERSTANDING AND THEN SARAH, IF YOU GO TO THE MOTION. SO YOU HAVE THE MOTION THERE.

SO, THAT CAN BE THE MOTION AS IT STANDS OR INCORPORATE THAT LITTLE LANGUAGE FROM THE PREVIOUS SLIDE AS PART OF THE MOTION SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO. THANK YOU.

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>> CAN WE GO BACK ONE SLIDE MR. CHAIR? THE LAST LINE IS WHAT I'M CONCERNED WILL DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY. WHEN THEY COME TO US ONE PROJECT AT A TIME INDIVIDUALLY FOR BOARD APPROVAL. IF THEY'RE NOT ALL AT THE SAME MEETING. ANYONE'S PROJECT WHOSE PROJECT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING WILL BE CONCERNED THEY ARE LEFT OUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF WHATEVER IT IS THEY'RE NEEDING. TELL ME IF I'M WRONG. I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS. IF WE LOOK AT THIS ONE-ON-ONE ON ONE, THE FIRST ONE OUT OF THE BOX SAYS YEAH FOR ME AND MY GROUP. THE OTHERS ARE SAYING, WHAT ABOUT ME? WHEN IS MY TURN? THAT'S WHY I WANT TO ENCOURAGE COLLABORATION. IT MAKES STAFF'S JOB EASIER TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO PUT THE LIMITED RESOURCES ET CETERA. IF THEY COME TO US AS A GROUP OF PROJECTS TO BE IMPLEMENTED, THEN THERE'S A LOT MORE CERTAINTY WHO IS RECEIVING WHAT BENEFITS AT THE END.

RATHER THAN WE HAVE THIS ONE READY TO GO OUT OF THE BOX FIRST AND WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD. WHEN THE MONEY RUNS OUT, THE MONEY RUNS OUT.

SOMEBODY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE THEIR EXPECTATIONS MET. THAT'S THE REASON I GOT ON MY SOAP BOX ABOUT THE CONCERNS HAVING IT APPROVED ONE AT A TIME.

THE SAME BOARD WILL BE COMING TO THE BOARD MEETING TO SAY, WHERE AM I IN THE CUE?

IN THE PRIORITIZATION. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> I JUST, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION. AND MIKE OR DARRYL IF YOU DON'T MIND.

IN REGARD TO, AND THERE'S TWO ISSUES AND NUMBER ONE IS DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

YOU ALLUDED TO IT. WE'RE ADDRESSING IT. IN AUGUST WE RECEIVED AN OUTSTANDING DEFERRED MAINTENANCE PROJECT YELLOW HEADER. THAT YELLOW HEADER DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND WHEN SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE A CERTAIN THOUGHT PROCESS OR DEFINITION OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WE ARE ADDRESSING THIS AND THAT IT'S BEING SYSTEMICALLY APPROACHED. YOU ALLUDED TO THAT.

THAT NUMBER OF $104 MILLION. IT SEEMS TO BE VERY LARGE AND ADDRESSED WITH THESE DOLLARS.

COULD YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE MORE FURTHER ON THAT THIS IS BEING PROPERLY SYSTEMICALLY

ADDRESSED IN THE BUDGET? >> LET ME HAVE DARRYL TALK ABOUT.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER YOU QUOTED, EXCUSE ME, THE NUMBER THAT PRECEDED THAT NUMBER WAS

MUCH LARGER. >> $4.8 MILLION. >> OVER THE YEARS WE HAVE BROUGHT THAT DOWN. I JUST DON'T WANT FOLKS TO LOOK AT THAT.

SOMETIMES THAT CAN BE USED AGAINST THIS BOARD AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE YOU'RE DEFERRING MAINTENANCE. I MEAN I LOOK AT IT. WE HAVE THE LIST AND I HAVE IT IN MY PAINT. IT'S A LOT OF PAINT AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE TO KEEP THINGS PROPERLY. ESPECIALLY THOSE IN BUSINESS OR HOMEOWNERS, WE DON'T WANT TO DEFER MAINTENANCE. WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS. AS LONG AS THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS, THIS IS BEING ADDRESSED, YOU'RE PUTTING SOMETHING OFF NECESSARY OR TO

FAIL, I WANT THAT TO BE UNDERSTOOD. >> COMMISSIONER, TO YOUR POINT BEFORE DARRYL MAKES HIS COMMENTS. ONE OF CRITERIA WE USE TOO, WE DIDN'T WANT TO FRITTER THIS MONEY AWAY ON SMALLER PROJECTS THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE REGULAR BUDGET PROCESS. DEFERRED MAINTENANCE IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE HAVE ADDRESSED SUBSTANTIALLY IN RECENT YEARS THROUGH THE REGULAR BUDGET PROCESS.

WE COULD PUT ALL $15 MILLION INTO MAINTENANCE IF WE WANTED TO.

WE LOOKED AT THESE DOLLARS AS PERHAPS ONE TIME OPPORTUNITY TO DO SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS.

I THINK WE HAVE BOTH COVERED. LET DARRYL EXPLAIN THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE APPROACH.

I THINK WE'RE GOOD. >> I HEAR THAT BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S

>> I WANT TO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE. >> I WOULD SAY FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE TERM DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, IN YEARS PAST, IT WAS MUCH LESS DEFINED BY THE COUNTY THROUGH OUR REORGANIZATION OF THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.

THE POSITIONS WE FILLED. PEOPLE THAT FILLED THE POSITIONS AND EXPERTISE THEY HAVE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE. THEY HAVE A DEFINED PROGRAM. IT'S A LIST OF PROJECTS.

THEY HAVE PRIORITIZED THE LIST OF PROJECTS ONE THROUGH WHATEVER.

THERE'S A COMFORT LEVEL WITH OUR LEVELS MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT AND OMB THAT WE HAVE HIT THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ITEMS ON THAT LIST. IT'S LIKE YOU SAID.

THERE'S A LOT OF PAINT. THERE WILL BE THINGS ON THE LIST THAT CAN GO TO FAILURE IN THE

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SO WE'VE GOT MONEY COMING TO THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE PROGRAM NOW.

IT'S DEFINED THING. AND WE CAN MANAGE IT. >> ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IN REGARD TO PAVEMENT AND PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT, IS THAT ADEQUATELY FUNDED IN SPITE OF THE MILLAGE

SHIFT WE HAVE MADE. IS IT ADEQUATE? >> IT IS -- WE KNOW THAT NUMBER IS LARGER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AVAILABLE EVEN WITH THE MILLAGE SHIFT BETWEEN PAYMENT MANAGEMENT AND DRAINAGE. THERE'S STILL A DEFICIT IN THE ARENA.

BUT THAT IS, THAT IS GOING TO BE AN ANNUAL ON GOING DEFICIT. ESPECIALLY IN PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT. UNTIL WE EITHER ACCEPT A LOWER PAVEMENT CONTINUE OR IDENTIFY

ADDITIONAL FUNDING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FOR THAT. >> SO JUST TO MAKE SURE.

WE COULD BE IN LEGITIMATELY SWAPPING NUMBERS HERE ON THE $15 MILLION FOR LESSER QUALITY

ROADS FOR OTHER PROJECTS? >> THAT IS THE BOARD'S OPTION. WE LOOKED AT THAT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE THAT THE BOARD RECENTLY ALLOCATED ONE-TIME FUNDING TOWARDS TTF.

YOU ALSO SHIFTED YOUR MILLAGE SO, IT IS CERTAINLY, YES, SIR, IT'S A BOARD DECISION AS TO WHERE YOU WANT TO ALLOCATE THESE DOLLARS. AND IF WE DIDN'T PREDICT IT RIGHT, CAN'T READ EVERYONE'S MINDS. IF YOU WANT ALL THAT MONEY TO GO BACK TOWARD TRANSPORTATION. IT'S A BEAST AND WILL ABSORB IT. WE CAN USE

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> IN MY MIND WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE ARE PLANNING ON APPROVING TODAY IS A 5 CATEGORIES, 5 GENERAL PROJECTS, TOTALING $15 MILLION AND THEN THIS LAST BULLET ON THE SCREEN, ONCE PROJECTS ARE SELECTED, THAT'S THE $15 MILLION FIGURE. RIGHT? ONCE PROJECTS ARE SELECTED.

THOSE ARE THE FIVE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE. >> THIS OVERALL PROGRAM.

>> THE $15 MILLION AND THE FIVE PROJECTS LISTED ON SHEET. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THEY WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD INDIVIDUALLY THROUGH THE STANDARD PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

THAT'S THE POINT MR. MCCORMACK WAS TRYING TO REINFORCE. THIS IS A GENERAL APPROVAL OF HOW WE WILL SPEND $15 MILLION OF OUR BUDGET GOING FORWARD. UNDER THE FIVE CATEGORIES, BEACH RENOURISHMENT OR SIDEWALKS PROJECTS. EACH PROJECT WILL COME BACK FOR A SPECIFIC APPROVAL TO GO FORWARD. THE CONTRACT AND THE BUDGET ON

THAT SPECIFIC ITEM? >> A GOOD ANALOGY WOULD BE A FIRE STATION.

YOU IDENTIFY THE FIRE STATION TO BE BUILT. YOU ALLOCATE THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO BUILD IT. AS WE GO THROUGH PROCUREMENT, WE WILL BRING THE COMPONENTS TO YOU FOR YOUR AUTHORIZATION. THERE ARE A COUPLE PROGRAMS THAT ARE UNIQUE SIDEWALKS MORE A PROGRAM BUT WHERE WE UNDERTAKE SIDEWALK PROGRAM, WE'RE GOING TO BRING THOSE BACK.

WE WILL HOLD THE BEACH MONEY IN ADVANCE UNTIL IT'S NEEDED OR CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE OR WE EXPERIENCE A WINFALL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER JOHNS, THANK YOU. POINT IS. IT'S NOT FIRST COME FIRST SERVED. WE HAVE $15 MILLION AND WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IT ALL ON THE FIRST THREE PROJECTS THAT COME THROUGH THE PIPE. WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE THE DOLLARS ON THAT SUMMARY CHART THAT WAS UP ON THE SCREEN PER PROJECT.

SO IF YOU PUT THAT BACK UP, SARAH. WE'RE LOOKING AT DOLLAR AMOUNTS BY PROJECT. THEY WON'T EXCEED THAT AMOUNT. IF WE GET INTO THE DESIGN PROCESS AND THERE'S A PROBLEM, WE'RE GOING TO COME TO YOU AND LET YOU KNOW.

IF A LIBRARY COST MORE THAN ANTICIPATED, WE'RE NOT TAKING THE MONEY OUT OF ANOTHER PROJECT. SO EVERYBODY CAN JUST BE PATIENT.

WE WILL GET TO THE PROJECTS AS WE CAN. NOT QUITE DONE.

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AND GETTING STRONGER AND THEY HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN FUNDING BEACH RENOURISHMENT AT LEAST TO ME. SO IF WE DO, IF WE ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET A 50-50 MATCH, THAT TOTAL NUMBER OF $24.1 MILLION BECOMES 27.1 MILLION IF WE GET THE 50-50 MATCH FOR BEACH RENOURISHMENT. FYI. THE DELEGATION IS MEETING HERE.

I THINK WE FIGURED IT OUT. NOVEMBER 22ND. NOT THE 21ST.

>> I HEARD IT WAS THE 15TH BUT THAT MAY HAVE CHANGED. >> THAT'S THE DEADLINE FOR MATCHING FUNDS. THEIR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION HEARING IS HERE ON THE 22ND I

BELIEVE. >> DARRYL JUST PULLED IT UP. THE 22ND.

BUT THE DEADLINE IS THE 15TH. WHICH IS ONE OF REASONS WE'RE TAKING IT UP TODAY I

>> THAT'S >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> JUST ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MR. DEAN SAID. I THINK THIS WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER, THE TAX DOLLARS WE REALLOCATED INTO THE 5TH CATEGORY.

THE BOARD HAD TO MAKE A DECISION ON HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED.

SO HOPEFULLY THOSE WOULD ALSO GOING TO THE BEACH RENOURISHMENT AS WELL.

WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT. JO IF I MAY, HOPEFULLY IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AND WHAT WILL BE THE 2021 BUDGET. THE 2020 BUDGET WE'RE ALREADY IN. OCTOBER 1ST IS THE FISCAL YEAR STARTING THE COMING, THE BUDGET YEAR WE'RE IN. AS WE START OUR BUDGET PROCESS NEXT SPRING.

STAFF STARTS IN FEBRUARY. WHEN WE START NEXT SPRING, IT'S MY HOPE THAT WE WILL IDENTIFY IN THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX REVENUE WHEN WE DID THE REALLOCATION, IT RESULTED IN A ROUGHLY $2.3 MILLION A YEAR FUND OF WHICH 1.8 MILLION DESIGNATED FOR THE PONTE VEDRA BEACH.

THAT $500,000 IT'S MY HOPE WOULD BE IDENTIFIED IN COMING YEARS FOR BEACH RENOURISHMENT FOR THE NORTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH PROJECT. BUT WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS THIS SPRING.

BUT, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE AT A MINIMUM, THE AMOUNT WE CAN IDENTIFY ASSUMING WE GET LEGISLATIVE FUNDING IN THE LEGISLATIVE THAT MEETS THIS JANUARY AND FEBRUARY COMING UP.

>> SARAH, WILL YOU PUT THE MOTION PAGE BACK UP. ANYMORE DISCUSSION.

>> CALL FOR THE MOTION IF IT'S TIME. >> YEP.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED PROJECTS OUR BOARD IDENTIFIED ALTERNATIVES AND APPROVE THE TRANSFER OF $15 MILLION IN GENERAL FUND RESERVES TO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND IN WHICH TO CAPTURE ALL ASSOCIATED PROJECT EXPENDITURES.

>> I WILL SECOND THAT. >> WE HAVE A BOARD, DID YOU WANT --

>> I WAS GOING TO MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION. THEY WAY WE HAVE THESE SEPARATED. MOTION AND SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES 5-0. CAN YOU PUT THE MOTION PAGE BACK UP? I WILL MAKE A MOTION WE PLACE THE $1.58 MILLION EXCESS GIVEN BY THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE IN A FUND SIMILAR TO THIS, TO PUT WITH IMPACT FEES TO DAVIS PARK EXPANSION.

>> MR. CHAIR. IF I COULD. WE'RE NOT CERTAIN AS WE SIT HERE

TODAY WHETHER THAT'S ENOUGH MONEY. >> WELL, WE CAN DO IT KIND OF LIKE WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE WATER WAY ACCESS THAT'S GOING TO BE A RESERVE FOR A YEAR OR TWO

UNTIL WE GET THERE. >> WE'RE ON THE WAY. >> I JUST DIDN'T WANT THERE TO BE AN EXPECTATION. NO, SIR. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> OKAY. WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES 5-0. OKAY. MOVING BACK THEN.

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NUMBER 3. >> AND MR. CHAIR. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. IF YOU HAVE EX PARTE, PLEASE DISCLOSE IT.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> COMMISSIONER DEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY EX

>> >> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> I DO.

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HE GAVE A HISTORY OF SAWGRASS BEACH RESORT AND THE PURPOSE AND REASON FOR THE MAJOR MODIFICATION ESPECIALLY AFTER THE STORM DAMAGE HAD EXCEEDED 50% OF THE VALUE AND RESTORATION OF PROPERTY DID NOT MEET CODE AND FEMA STANDARDS. I THINK THAT WILL COVER WHAT WE

DISCUSSED MR. CHAIRMAN. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

I SPOKE WITH MR. VERNON KELLY ON NOVEMBER 1ST. AT APPROXIMATELY 11:00 A.M.

WE DISCUSSED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. THE BACKGROUND AND HISTORY.

AND JUST SOME GENERAL NEED OF THE COMMUNITY IN RELATION TO THIS PROJECT.

>> OKAY. COMMISSIONER JOHNS. >> I RECEIVED THE SAME CALL FROM MR. KELLY. I WAS DRIVING AND DID NOT RECORD THE EXACT TIME OR DATE.

HE ASKED IF I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SCOPE OF WORK. EXPLAINED THE NEEDS FOR THIS REQUEST. I TOLD HIM I HAD NOT HEARD ANYTHING OR HAD MY BRIEFING AND WOULD LET HIM KNOW IF I HAD QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS BASED ON THIS.

>> I ALSO HAD THE SAME PHONE CALL FROM MR. VERNON KELLY. HE ASKED ME IF I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT AND THE TIME I TALKED TO HIM, I DID NOT. I FORGOT I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR. VERNON KELLY LAST FRIDAY. I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT.

>> HE'S PRETTY >> OKAY. YAEM.

>> ITEM THIS IS AGENDA ITEM THREE. IT'S A MAJOR MODIFICATION FOR THE SAWGRASS MARRIOTT. IT IS A REQUEST FOR MAJOR MODIFICATION TO THE PLAYERS CLUB PUD, ORDINANCE 2007-84. TO ESTABLISH A MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE SAWGRASS MARRIOTT RESORT. THAT INCLUDES REZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE 3.43 ACRE CABANNA BEACH CLUB PROPERTY LOCATED AT 619 PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD AND READOPTION OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ENTITLEMENTS FOR THE HOTEL PROPERTY.

IT'S LOCATED AT 1,000 PGA TOUR BOULEVARD. THIS IS JUST A MAP OF THE PROPERTY. ZONING. FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

AND THEN JUST AS BACKGROUND. MAYBE MOST OF YOU KNOW, THE MARRIOTT WAS APPROVED IN 1985 WITH A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE PART OF PLAYERS CLUB AND HAS BEEN MODIFIED MANY TIMES.

THE CABANNA WAS APPROVED IN 1972. THE CLUB DID SUFFER DAMAGES DUE TO HURRICANE IRMA AND THE RESTAURANT BUILDING WAS REQUIRED TO REQUIRE RENOVATIONS AND THAT'S WHY THEY ARE BACK HERE TODAY FOR THE BEACH CLUB, SO THE BEACH CLUB CAN DO THE RENOVATIONS. THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE CABANNA CLUB RESTAURANT IS LIMITED TO 7400 SQUARE FEET. THE BEACH CLUB, SWIMMING CLUB, POOL ACCESSORIES REMAIN CONSTRUCTED AS IS. THE RELOCATION OF THE DINING BUILDING AREA PROVIDES AN INCREASE SETBACK OF 70 FEET FROM PONTE VEDRA AND 20 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

THE RETAIL FACILITIES WILL BE COMPLETED WITHIN FIVE YEARS AND THE ANY FINAL DESIGN OF THE BUILDING WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE PONTE VEDRA OVERLAY. THERE ARE WAIVERS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. APPLICATION, THEY DEAL WITH THE HEIGHT.

THE HEIGHT IS OVER 35 FEET IN THE COASTAL AREA. THE HEIGHT IS UNCHANGED FROM HOW IT EXISTS TODAY THOUGH AND THE RESORT CONDOMINIUMS SHALL NOT EXCEED FIVE STORIES AND 65 FEET.

THERE ARE SOME PARKING STANDARD SAYS THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. A WAIVER FOR THE PARKING NEEDS ASSESSMENT CONDUCTED BY WALTER PARKING CONSULTANTS THAT DOLLARS ADEQUATE PARKING AND REPLACING THE NORTHERN SURFACE PLOT WILL INCREASE BY 125 SPACES. THIS IS JUST A SITE PLAN OF THE PROJECT. THE MARRIOTT PROJECT. THERE'S WAIVERS TO HEIGHT AND

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SCHEMATIC SHOWING THE EXISTING CABANNA CLUB AND EXISTING RESTAURANT IS ALL THAT'S BEEN RENOVATED. THAT'S THE SAME THING SHOWING THE SCHEMATIC BEACH CLUB ITSELF.

THIS APPLICATION HAS ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THREE DIFFERENT PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WENT THROUGH THE PONTE VEDRA COMMITMENT AND VOTED 5-0 FOR APPROVAL.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY HEARD THIS AND VOTED 6-0 AND THERE WAS NO PUBLIC COMMENT PROVIDED AT ANY HEARINGS. STAFF HAS BEEN BEEN CONTACTED BY SEVERAL RESIDENTS OF BREAKERS CONDOMINIUMS CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE OUTSIDE WOULD BE HAPPENING TO THEIR GENERAL AREA AND REASSURED THE RECONSTRUCTION DID NOT INCLUDE THE EXISTING POOL AND BEACH SIDE.

AND THEY WERE NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THEM. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

IT FINDS IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE DO HAVE SIX FINDINGS TO SPPORT AND SEVEN FOR DENIAL. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I WILL TRY TO ANSWER THEM AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES ARE

HERE AS WELL. >> OKAY. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS THIS

TIME. HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. >> THA GOOD AFTERNOON CARL SANDERS ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, CWI SAWGRASS HOTEL.

IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I KNOW YOU HAD A LONG DAY. JUST TO ECHO WHAT TERESA SAID, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. BUT AGAIN TO RECAP PROPOSAL HERE THE GENESIS OF THIS MAJOR MOD WAS THE DAMAGE INFLICTED BY HURRICANE IRMA IN 2017. THIS WAS SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH WE EXCEEDED THE MINIMUM THRESHOLD FOR REPAIRING THE BUILDING SO WE ARE ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO DEMOLISH AND REBUILD IT. CONSIDERING THAT BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1983, A FEW LAWS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN. LOTS OF ZONING CODES AND THIS IS OUR ATTEMPT TO ENTITLE THE REBUILDING OF STRUCTURE ON THE CABANNA CLUB PROPERTY AND WHAT WE DID IS WITH THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, AFTER MEETING WITH STAFF LAST YEAR, WE DECIDED TO COMBINE EVERYTHING INTO A SINGLE PUD WHICH IS THIS MODIFICATION, WHICH IS WHY YOU HAVE THE REFERENCE TO THE HOTEL PROPERTY.

GEOGRAPHICALLY SEPARATED PARCELS AND SAME OWNERSHIP. IT'S A FUNCTION OF THE RESORT.

THAT NOW IN THE FUTURE BOTH FOR STAFF'S PROPERS AND THE PUBLIC'S PURPOSES, ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS WILL BE SET FORTH IN ONE SINGLE DOCUMENT AS OPPOSED TO CONVENTIONAL ZONING DISTRICTS AND PUDS. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU.

WE WILL NOW HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL OPEN UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

I DID SAY THAT CORRECTLY. WE'RE CRUISING TODAY. AGENDA ITEM 3.

SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY.

COMMISSION BLOCKER. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2019. >> 68.

2019-04 RESULT. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE. PLEASE VOTE.

I GOT NOTHING FROM YOU. HIT YES OR NO. ALL RIGHT.

PASSES 5-0. OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND MR. CHAIR, THIS NEXT ONE IS ALSO QUASI JUDICIAL. COMMISSIONER DEAN.

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>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. I HAVE NONE MR. CHAIRMAN. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS.

>> NONE SIR. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I DID BRIEFLY SPEAK WITH MS. BREEDING ON THIS PROJECT. WE HAD A VERY BRIEF CONVERSATION ON TUESDAY OCTOBER 29TH. OF THIS PAST WEEK. WE BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT THE

SCOPE AND SOME OF THE WORK FORCE HOUSING BENEFITS. >> MR. CHAIR THIS IS FOR THE

COMMERCE CENTER. >> SORRY. >> WE'RE JUST ON NUMBER FOUR.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I HAD NO CONVERSATIONS I'M

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>> OKAY. MS. MAY. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON CYNTHIA MAY GROWTH MANAGEMENT. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR CREATING A PUD ON INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARK WAY. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM OPEN RURAL TO PUD. THE SITE LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARK WAY AND WEST OF U.S. 1. IT'S FEATURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS INDUSTRIAL.

IT IS ALSO ZONED OR. WAREHOUSE TO THE EAST AND INDUSTRIAL PUD TO THE WEST.

THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE ABOUT 60 ACRES. THEY INTEND TO CREATE AN INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS PARK WITH MAXIMUM OF 290 SQUARE FEET AND HOLD A PERMIT TO RECYCLE AND THAT USE WOULD BE PERMITTED IN THE PUD. THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING 1, 15-YEAR PHASING. THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE POTENTIAL SITE DEVELOPMENT.

THEY'RE REQUESTING 5 WAIVERS. THE FIRST WITH AMENDING THE PHASING TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE AND THE REST HAVING TO DO WITH SIGNS. THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM CONCURRENT REQUIREMENTS. THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE A SITE ANALYSIS AND MAY BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE RIGHT AND LEFT TURN LANES. THE PROJECT IS GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA WITHIN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION IS OPTIMAL FOR THE USE. COMPATIBLE FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF RECEIVED NO PHONE CALLS OR CORRESPONDENCE.

THE AGENCY HELD A PUBLIC HEARING AND VOTED 6-0 APPROVAL. THEY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SIGNS AND WAIVERS. THE APPLICANT AGREED TO LIMIT THE HEIGHT OF THE PROJECT SIGN TO 25 FEET. STAFF SUPPORTS APPROVAL OF THIS PUD.

IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORMS WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMP PLAN IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND NINE FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL. I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. >> OKAY. I SEE NO QUESTIONS.

HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. GOOD AFTERNOON, FOR THE RECORD DOUG BERNET.

I KNOW IT'S LATE IN THE DAY ASK SKIP THE PRESENTATION. IT'S 290,000 SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL IN PLACE. FITS THE AREA. IT'S A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY AND MY CLIENT, ROBERT THOMAS WHO WAS HERE THIS MORNING.

HE REARRANGED HIS SCHEDULE FOR THE MORNING BUT COULDN'T BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON.

HE'S GOING TO USE ONE OF OUT PARCELS FOR HIS OWN USE. THIS WAS HIS DREAM TO DO AN INDUSTRIAL SITE WHICH GOES BACK TO HIM GETTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT ORIGINALLY.

>> I DON'T SEE QUESTIONS. AT THIS TIME, PUBLIC COMMENT. I OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA ITEM FOUR. SEEING NONE. MR. CHAIRMAN.

WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 4. >> I WILL MOVE ITEM FOUR.

>> YES, SIR. MOTION TO ENACT 2019. >> 69.

FOR PUD 2018-03, IGP COMMERCE CENTER BASED ON NINE FINDINGS OF FACT.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES 5-0. CONGRATULATIONS.

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THIS PRESENTATION WILL FOCUS ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE BASED ON DISCUSSION AND PUBLIC COMMENT RECEIVED DURING MAY SEVENTH BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ITEM REGARDING PUBLIC HOUSING. SEVERAL OPTIONS WERE GIVEN TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE CREATION OF A AFFORDABLE HOUSING THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY OUT OF THOSE OPTIONS, TWO WERE GIVEN CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD ON. OTHER COMMUNITY INTERESTED STAKEHOLDERS DISCUSSED THE NEW

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IN 2019, THE ANNUAL MEDIAN IN ST. JOHNS WAS $703,500. >> THESE CATEGORIES ARE USED BY HUD TO DETERMINE WHETHER FAMILIES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR VARIOUS HOUSING PROGRAMS. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE AND HOW THEY APPLY TO ST. JOHNS. THIS BEGINS WITH EXTREMELY LOW.

30% OF ANNUAL MEDIAN INCOME AT OR BELOW THAT. MAKING $22,000 ANNUALLY.

THE VERY LOW INCOME CATEGORY, THOSE FAMILIES MAKING BETWEEN $20,000.36 SUNDAY THOUSAND ANNUALLY. THE LOW 50 TO 80% OF THE AMI, 36 TO $80,000 AND THE MODERATE EQUATES TO THOSE FAMILIES MAKING $58,000 TO $88,000 ANNUALLY. SO AS A GENERAL RULE OF THUMB, BACK IN 1981, THERE WAS 30% RULES CREATED WHEREAS A HOUSEHOLD COULD SPEND NO MORE OF THEIR MONTHLY INCOME ON HOUSING. USING THAT RULE OF THEM. PEOPLE IN THE EXTREMELY LOW CATEGORY, 30% OR BELOW AMI COULD AFFORD $73,000. PEOPLE IN THE VERY LOW, 30 TO 50% AMI COULD AFFORD A MAX HOME SALES PRICE OF $73,000 TO $122,000.

PEOPLE IN THE LOW INCOME COULD AFFORD A HOME BETWEEN $122,000 AND $196,000 AND PEOPLE IN THE MODERATE INCOME BRACKET COULD AFFORD HOMES BETWEEN $196,000 AND $294,000.

SO THE $210,000 MAX SALES PRICE CATER TO THE UPPER LOWER INCOME AND MODERATE INCOME CATEGORY.

THE NEW AFFORDABLE ZONING DISTRICT WILL ALLOW FREE MARKET. THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.

THEY WERE CONVERSATIONS AMONG COMMUNITY SUPPORT GROUPS AND CONSENSUS AMONG OFFICIALS TO PROVIDE AN INCREASE IN DENSITY AND SIMPLY THE FOLLOWING GROUPS. THE RESIDENTIAL B ALLOWS TWO DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE TO ALLOW SIX DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THAT'S MOSTLY BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE LAND MASSES IN ST. JOHNS IS RESIDENTIAL LAND USE WERE THE RESIDENTIAL C LAND ALLOWS 6 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THE VARIABLE DENSITY IS AN ADDITIONAL TWO DWELLING UNITS ADDED TO THE FOUR BASE TO GIVE YOU A TOTAL OF SIX IF YOU REZONE TO PUD. THE MIXED LAND USE ALLOWS 13 PER DWELLING ACRE.

THIS ALLOWS THE 13 DWELLING UNITS TO REMAIN WITHOUT THE NEED TO REZONE TO PUD ONCE YOU HIT THAT TRIGGER. ADDITIONAL ITEMS WOULD BE AN INCREASE TO MULTIFAMILY SITE STRUCTURES. REDUCED LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS. REDUCE SETBACKS AND DECREASE

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THIS IS TO SUMMARIZE WHAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AMONGST THE VARIOUS GROUPS, THE PROPOSAL IS THAT IN A DEVELOPMENT, THIS NEW AFFORDABLE ZONING CATEGORY OF 40% OF HOMES WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE $210,000 OR LESS. THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE OWNED OR OCCUPIED AND DEMONSTRATE COMPLIANCE WITH THAT. THE REZ B AND RES C. 13 UNITS PER ACRE WITH NO PUD AND PROPOSED THAT IF THE DEVELOPMENT HAD TAKEN PLACE WITHIN 24 MONTHS, REVERT BACK TO THE PREVIOUS ZONING CATEGORY. IT ONE A CONDITIONAL REZONING. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I WILL SPEAK TO THIS AND OTHER STAFF MEMBERS ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? >> OKAY, WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.

NO OPEN UP AGENDA ITEM 5 PER PUBLIC. GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> SPEAKER: BOB PORTER RACE TRACK ROAD. I HAVE SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO PUT UP ON THE BOARD. JUST TO EXPAND ON WHAT JOE WAS SAYING, THE AFFORDABLE LIMITS VARY BY SIZE OF THE HOUSEHOLD. SO WHEN WE WERE HAVING OUR MEETINGS, WHAT WE DECIDED WE WANTED TO TRY AND TARGET WAS TWO AND THREE FAMILY LOW-INCOME HOMES.

AND THAT IS WHERE THE 210 NUMBER COMES FROM. ESSENTIALLY 4% RATE, 197.5 FOR TWO PERSON FAMILY AND 225 IS WHAT IT CAME OUT TO FOR THE THREE.

WE PICKED 210 AS SORT OF AN AVERAGE OF THE TWO TO EXPLAIN WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

IT'S AIMED AT LOW INCOME. WE TRIED TO GET SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT THE COUNTY COULD SUPPORT. THAT WE FELT COULD BE CONSTRUCTED.

I THINK WE CAN DO ONE OF THESE PROJECTS AND WE CAN SELL IT WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE SUBSIDIES FROM THE COUNTY. WE WERE TRYING TO LIMIT THINGS. WE DID GET GET INTO THE QUESTIONS OF RENTALS. WE DID NOT DISCUSS THE LOW INCOME OR EXTREMELY LOW INCOME.

WHAT HAPPENING ALL TOO OFTEN, WE TRY TO SOLVE ALL OF THE PROBLEMS AND SOLVE NONE OF PROBLEMS. FROM THE INDUSTRY STANDPOINT. THEY'RE A COUPLE OF THINGS IMPORTANT TO ME.

WE RESTRICT THE INITIAL SALE. WHEN YOU SELL THE HOUSE TO THE FIRST CUSTOMER, IT NEEDS TO BE AT 210 FOR 40%. WHEN THAT CUSTOMER GETS READY TO RESALE, IT GOES TO THE OPEN MARKET. WE DO NOT WANT TO SELL TO SOMEBODY AND THEY GET TRANSFERRED AND LOSE A JOB AND HAVE THEM NOT ABLE TO SELL. THAT'S WHY WE PICKED A SALES PRICE. WE DIDN'T SAY EVERYBODY FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME HAS TO QUALIFY UNDER THE INCOME LIMITS. TRYING TO MAKE IT EASY. AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FROM MY STANDPOINT. THE OTHER THING I THINK IS IMPORTANT, THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE RIGHT AWAY. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SAME SLIDE UP THERE, THIS CAME FROM MY MORTGAGE COMPANY. WE ASKED THEM ON A TYPICAL PAYMENT IF SOMEONE WAS PAYING 30%, WHAT CAN THEY AFFORD? I ASKED THEM TO DO IT AT 4%. THAT'S WHERE THE 210 NUMBER CAME FROM. THEY ALSO HAVE 2% AND 5% TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE NUMBERS IF THE RATES GO UP. YOU CAN SEE THAT FAMILY OF TWO WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR $160,000 HOME IF THE RATE WENT UP TO SIX %. SO WE'VE GOT HISTORICALLY LOW RATES TODAY. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD TRY AND

TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: MR. PORTER, IF WE COULD TAKE YOUR SHEET INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.

BETH BREEDING. 10175 FORTUNE PARK WAY, I AM A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CONTINUUM OF CARE. THE CONTINUUM OF CARE AND THE BUILDER'S ASSOCIATION ARE NOT

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WITHOUT AVAILABLE HOUSING, EMPLOYERS WILL GO ELSEWHERE. WE NEED TO PROVIDE OTHER PRICE POINT, TEACHERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE COUNTY THAT THEY SERVE.

TRAFFIC. THE EMPLOYEES WILL BE LIVING IN THE COUNTY THEY SERVE, TRAFFIC WILL ACTUALLY GET BETTER NOT WORSE. A HEALTHY COMMUNITY IS AN ECONOMICALLY DIVERSE ONE. THEREFORE WE HAVE TO HAVE HOUSING AT OTHER PRICE POINTS TO SERVE ALL LEVELS OF PEOPLE IN SOCIETY. THE PRIVATE SECTOR CANNOT PROVIDE HOUSING WITHOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. VERY MUCH NEED THE 16 UNITS PER ACRE THAT HELPS GET THE PRICE POINTS DOWN. I SENT OUT TO EACH OF YOU WHAT WAS FOR SALE AT $250,000 AND UNDER. AROUND THE COUNTY AND AS YOU SAW, THE DENSITY HELPED TO GET THE PRICE POINTS LOWER AND PROVIDE A MORE ECONOMICALLY DIVERSE HOUSING OUT THERE. RELAXED SUBDIVISION STANDARDS. THAT HELPS IN THE LOWER PRICE POINTS. EVEN IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THAT TODAY, I WOULD LIKE A TIME OTHER THAN TO GET INTO DETAIL TO SERVE THE LOWER PRICE POINTS. RENTALS ARE IMPORTANT.

I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE SOMETHING TO HAVE A TIME CERTAIN.

EVERYBODY GETS BUSY AND IT DISSIPATES. ALSO THE PRICE POINTS NEEDS TO BE 250 AND NOT 210. SMALLER DEVELOPERS AND SMALLER BUILDERS DON'T HAVE AS MUCH PADDING TO MAKE THAT 210 WORK AND YOU HATE TO GET TO THE MIDDLE OF A PROJECT AND REALIZE THE INTEREST RATE CHANGED AND YOU CAN'T SELL HOMES AND YOU'RE STUCK AND CAUSES YOU TO GO UNDER. THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

TRANSFER OF IMPACT FEES. IF WE WANT TO LIMIT ONLY TO 80% OF AMI, THOSE HAVE BEEN PREPAID TO THE COUNTY AND IT'S VITAL THOSE ARE TRANSFERRED TO THE SHIP PROGRAM.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TO A PROJECT OF 200 HOMES BUT TO HELP TO GET TO ONE OR TWO.

THE DEVELOPERS PREPAID A LONG TIME AGO LET THOSE FUNDS BE USED TO GET TO THE LOWER PRICE POINTS

THANK YOU. >> CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? >> YES, SIR.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PRICE POINTS, DO YOU THINK A $250,000 HOME IS BETTER THAN $210,000

HOMES? >> IT GIVES YOU A LOT MORE VERSATILITY.

WHEN WE APPLY FOR SCHOOL CONCURRENCY, THAT'S $20,000. SOMETIMES THE ROAD CONCURRENCE IS ANOTHER 10. SO THERE'S 30 BEFORE YOU PAY FOR THE LAND, BEFORE YOU PAY FOR WATER AND SEWER FEES. SO WE DO NEEDTHAT FLEXIBILITY IN THE COMMUNITY.

TO HAVE, THAT COULD BE ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD AND MAKES THAT PROJECT SUCCESSFUL.

YOU TRY TO BRING IN AT VARYING PRICE POINTS. I HAVE SUBDIVISIONS THAT GO FROM 425 TO 250. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE AFFORDABLE BUT DO VARY.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCK. >> MS. BREEDY. JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT ACCESSORY DEVELOPING UNIT THAT FACTORS INTO THIS.

DO YOU HAVE THOUGHTS OR ANYTHING YOU CAN ELABORATE? >> FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD.

THAT'S WHAT WE CALL LOW HANGING FRUIT. IF THERE ARE PARENTS AND KID GRADUATES COLLEGE, THEY CAN HAVE A GARAGE APARTMENT IN THE BACK. IF THE KID MOVES OUT, THAT'S SOMETHING THEY COULD RENT OUT TO BE TO FLAGLER COLLEGE OR A RETIRED PERSON.

THAT'S AN EASY THING TO DO THAT DOESN'T TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE COUNTY AND DOESN'T COST THE

COUNTY MONEY. >> JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. JUST TO CLARIFY AND MAKE SURE WE'RE TRACKING, THE $250,000 THRESHOLD. DOES THAT MEET THE AMI?

>> SO THE SLIDE THAT WAS SHOWN BY JOSEPH CEARLEY SHOWED 290 WOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED

AFFORDABLE. I'M ONLY ASKING FOR 250. >> CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE

THAT SHOWS AMI. >> THE OTHER WITH THE SLIDER. SO YOU CAN SEE, EVEN THERE AT THE MODERATE IS 294. AND RIGHT THERE ON THE CUSP BETWEEN LOW AND MODERATE IS 156.

>> THANK YOU. >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE? JUST THE ONE BEFORE THAT. IT'S NOTHING TO DO -- YEAH. SOMETIMES THESE STATE FIGURES,

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YOU HAVE PEOPLE WORK IN DUVAL COUNTY THAT MAKE MORE MONEY. YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO WHAT COULD TWO TEACHERS AFFORD OR A FIREFIGHTER OR TWO PEOPLE RUNNING A GRADER WORKING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD COULD AFFORD WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS. JUST.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> YES, BILL LAZAR, DIRECTOR OF ST. JOHNS HOUSING PARTNERSHIP.

I JUST -- I PUT THAT THERE JUST TO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS. THOSE ARE WAGES.

THAT'S TWO YEARS AGO. THAT'S A CHART WE CAME UP WITH. THIS IS A GREAT START AND THE OLD IDEA OF HOW DO YOU EAT AN ELEPHANT IN ONE BITE AT A TIME. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN TRYING TO GET OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS TO BUILD SOME LEVEL OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THE ONLY PART OF THE MARKET THEY CAN HIT WITHOUT DEALING WITH PAIN, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH SOMEONE ELSE PAYING IMPACT FEES AND SOMEONE ELSE HELPING WITH INFRASTRUCTURE AND AS I LOOK AT IT, NOT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS TO HAVE A PARK AND GUTTER. WE CAN GIVE YOU WHAT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WANTS BUT LET US DO THIS ZONING CATEGORY. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD START.

IS IT GOING TO GET DOWN TO THE LOWER END OF THE WORK FORCE? NO.

THE POINT IS, IT'S A START. THIS IS WHAT WE ALL IN THESE DISCUSSIONS KIND OF HAGGLED BACK AND FORTH ABOUT OF IF WE CAN GET THESE GUYS TO STEP UP, THIS IS ONE THING.

THE SECOND PART IS LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE THE ADUS >> WE HAVE ADUS ALREADY.

WE HAVE SHEDS WITH WINDOW AC UNITS POPPING UP ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. THERE'S THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO SIMPLIFY SOME ZONING CHALLENGING FOR INFILL LOTS. THIS ZONING CATEGORY IS REALLY TO GET A BIGGER DEVELOPMENT. SOMETHING GOING THAT HAS SOME UMPH THAT WILL DO VOLUME.

THERE'S A LOT WE COULD DO WITH INFILL. AND I THINK WHEN YOU WANT TO GET DOWN TO THE PORTION OF OUR WORK FORCE THAT HAS BETWEEN $50,000 AND $80,000.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME KIND OF CREATIVE WAY TO DEAL WITH THE COST OF GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS.

WHETHER IT'S IMPACT FEES. UTILITY FEES AND THEN THE CURB AND GUTTER AND FREE PUBLIC SPACE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT START.

I HOPE Y'ALL DIRECT STAFF TO NOT JUST FURTHER DISCUSS IT BUT BRING YOU BACK IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. NOBODY WAS UP HERE ASKING FOR A SHARE OF THE $15 MILLION.

IN PART, THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE A HISTORIC OPTION TO DEAL WITH INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE STORMWATER CHALLENGES WE HAVE AND THE BIGGEST NEGATIVE IMPACT ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS THE FACT THAT GOVERNMENT HAS GOTTEN OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF DOING INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL PAYING FOR. WE HAVE OTHER SOURCES.

WE NEED TO REDUCE THE REGULATIONS. YOU CAN SEE A LOT MORE GROWING FORTH IF YOU TELL STAFF TO BRING YOU THINGS TO FINALIZE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? ON AGENDA ITEM 5? SEEING NONE, MR. CHAIRMAN. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. COMMISSIONER JOHNS.

>> QUESTION FOR MR. CEARLEY. THE REQUEST TO INCREASE THE LIMIT.

WHAT IMPACT DOES THAT HAVE ON THE PROJECT? >> T APPEARS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF OPTIONS. IS THERE MORE TO THE RIPPLE AFFECT?

>> I'M NOT SURE WHAT RIPPLE AFFECT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. >> IT LOOKS LIKE IT PROVIDES MORE OPTIONS FOR HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES TO QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM.

>> I DON'T KNOW THERE'S A QUALIFIER OTHER THAN THE PRICE POINT OF THE HOME.

>> BY HAVING A HIGHER PRICE POINT. WHAT ARE THE AFFECTS TO THE

PROGRAM? >> WELL, WE'RE ALREADY SEEING HOMES, WE LOOKED, GRABS PROPERTY APPRAISER DATA FROM HOMES BEING BUILT. WE'RE SEEING HOMES BEING BUILT AT THIS LEVEL. YOU'RE OPENING IT UP. IT'S REMAINED STABLE THROUGHOUT THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAT PRICE MARKET. WITH EXISTING HOMES AND NEWLY CONSTRUCTED HOMES. WE'RE SEEING A SLIGHT DROP OFF IN THE 250 PRICE RANGE AND A BIG

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IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. >> WE HAVE SALES DATA WE HAVE DONE ANALYSIS ON AND CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU. NOW THAT WE HAVE FILTERED THE DATA.

NOW WE KNOW THE NUMBERS. PERCENTAGE OF THIS, PERCENTAGE OF THAT.

AND THAT MAY HELP YOU OR THE BOARD WITH THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS AS TO WHAT IS THE RIGHT PRICE POINT TO TARGET. AND THIS PROGRAM IS NEW. IT'S NOT BEEN RUN BEFORE.

210 IS AS MR. PORTER SAID, IS SOMEWHAT OF A GUESSTIMATE. BUT WE CAN PROVIDE SALES FIGURES OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEEN SELLING IN THE MARKETPLACE. THAT'S WHAT JOE IS ALLUDING TO.

WE'RE SEEING IN THAT 250ISH RANGE, THE MARKET PROVIDING A FEW MORE HOUSES AND THAT RANGE ALREADY. WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF INCENTIVE. BUT, CERTAINLY IT'S FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION AND WE WILL GET YOU SOME MORE DATA THAT MAY HELP.

>> THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, I THOUGHT 250 WAS ALSO THE PRICE APPROXIMATION IF A HOUSE IS SO SOLD,AD VALOREM TAXES IN COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY HAS ANTICIPATED TO PAY FOR THE SERVICES PROVIDES

FOR HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE THAT ARE PAID THROUGH A COUNTY. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT IS, NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE OR FORMULA. I, AND I THINK I'M RECALLING THE NUMBER WAS CLOSER TO 300. BUT IT IS, I BELIEVE IT'S DEPENDENT HOW THAT NUMBER IS CALCULATED ON YOUR ANNUAL BUDGET. MAYBE THE BACK END OF THAT NUMBER. BUT, THE TWO ARE SOMEWHAT INVERSE.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING VERSUS TRYING TO PROVIDE A HOUSE THAT AT A PRICE POINT THAT COVERS ITS NEEDS. IT'S COMMUNTY NEEDS. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE INVERSE TO ONE ANOTHER. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME.

>> OBVIOULY I'M NOT EXPECTING EVERY HOME TO BE SOLD AT A POINT WHICH THE NEEDS ARE COVERED ANY MORE THAN I EXPECT EVERY EXPENSE THE COUNTY PROVIDES AS PUBLIC HEALTH OR SERVICE TO BE SELF SUSTAINING OR PAYING FOR ITSELF. WE DON'T WANT TO ASK IF SOMEONE CAN AFFORD THE AMBULANCE BEFORE SENDING IT TO THEM IS ONE EXTREME ELEMENT BUT RELEVANT. I WANTED TO HAVE AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE THINGS AS FEES INCREASE BOTTOM LINE BASE COST, NOT JUST COST OF CONSTRUCTION, BUT THE IMPACT FEES AND FEES FOR SERVICES PROVIDED TO OUR COUNTY QUALITY OF LIFE FEES GO UP, WE NEED TO BE CONSCIOUS OF PRICING PEOPLE OUT OF THE MARKET.

IF WE CAN ADJUST THAT NUMBER, WITHOUT A FORMAL OR VERY LONG PROTRACTED PROCESS, BASED ON THE RESULTS OF SEEING WHAT PLAYS OUT WITH SOMETHING. I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD. I DON'T WANT TO ANALYZE THIS ANYMORE.

PARALYSIS BY ANALYSIS IS THE BANE OF A COMMUNITY. I WANT TO TRACK THE PROCESS AND PLAN TO RE-EVALUATE THIS IN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MONTHS AND A YEAR TO SEE THE RESULTS AND PLAN TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. THIS IS A GOOD START. IT'S BEEN YEARS IN THE CONVERSATION. LONGER THAN MOST OF US ON THE BOARD.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MEANS OF OBJECTIVELY MEASURING THE RESULTS AND HOW TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE OF COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY ON THE LOW FIXED INCOME DEMOGRAPHIC OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE DON'T WANT TO FORCE THEM OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY ARE A VITAL PART IN THE SERVICES AND QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS. JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.

WE HAVE KIND OF TWO PROPOSALS. YOU HAVE A CONTINUUM OF CARE AD HOC AND THE GROUP THAT I ASKED THE BOARD ABOUT PARTICIPATING WITH. THEY'RE AT, THERE'S DIFFERENCES IN THE TWO. THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT BY THE BOARD TO MAKE THE

DECISIONS. >> CURIOUS TO WHAT REST OF BOARD HAS TO SAY ABOUT IT

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>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK PUT INTO THIS AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK EVERYONE PUT INTO THIS CRUNCHING NUMBERS AND BOUNCING IDEAS OFF EACH OTHER. IN THE RELAXATION OF MANDATES AND INCREASING OF DENSITY EQUATES TO EFFICIENCY IN A LOWER MANAGEABLE COST. I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT THAT'S GONE INTO IT. EVEN WITH THIS PARTICULAR DIRECTIVE.

THERE'S SAFEGUARDS THAT ALLOW THE BOARD TO PARTICIPATE WHERE IT GOES THAT ARE ALSO HELPFUL.

I WANT TO SAY WHEN MR. PORTER WROTE US AND SAID DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING WE WANTED.

WE KNOW WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE GROUND. THANK Y'ALL FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE. I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A TEDIOUS PROCESS AND I APPRECIATE IT.

>> YEAH. AND I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO THOROUGHLY GO THROUGH WHAT WE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY. WHEN WE MET, WE DECIDED TO TRY TO TACKLE A PRICE POINT.

NOT BE SUBSIDIZED OR COUNTY GIVING ANYTHING. NOT THE TAXPAYERS GIVING ANYTHING AND LIKE MR. PORTER SAID, IF THEY MOVE ON, THEY CAN SELL IT.

THAT'S THEIR BIGGEST INVESTMENT IN LIFE. I DIDN'T FEEL AND THE GROUP DIDN'T FEEL TO HOLD THEM DOWN. IF YOU MOVE ON TO A BIGGER JOB, YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO A BIGGER HOUSE WHICH MY DAUGHTER JUST DID. IT GIVES THEM OPTIONS.

THAT'S DIFFERENCES IN THE PROPOSALS. KIND OF WHAT WE SAID, HEY LET'S BUILD IT AS A PROJECT. ONE THING I WAS ADAMANT ABOUT. YOU HAVE 24 MONTHS TO GET IT DONE. YOU HIT THE PRICE POINT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIGHER.

THAT'S THE MIDDLE GROUND WE HAVE GOTTEN TO. ONE THING THE COMMITTEE AGREED ON. IF WE CAN'T BUILD IT, THERE'S NO SENSE IN TALKING IT THROWING MONEY AT IT. IF WE CAN'T BUILD IT AND MAKE IT WORK.

A PILOT PROGRAM TO DO IT WITH A FEW SUBDIVISIONS. ANOTHER THING OF WAS BUILDING MULTIFAMILY OR 1100, 1200 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS. WHERE THE FAMILIES HAVE A BACKYARD AND MAYBE NOT A PARK. BUILD IT NEAR A REGIONAL FACILITY.

SO THERE'S ADEQUATE USES IN THE AREA. COMMISSIONER SMITH.

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>> THIS IS A REQUEST, FROM OPEN RURAL TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL. PROVIDED ON THISLINE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WHICH IS LOCATED ALONG OLD MOULTRIE ROAD .

THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES DOES NEED A MIXED-USE ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED OPEN RURAL. AS MENTIONED, THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT ACRES TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL IN ORDER TO BRING A FACILITY UP-TO-DATE WITH CURRENCY JONES COUNTY CODES.CCORDING TO APPLICATION MATERIALS PROVIDED, THIS WOULD ALLOW THE FACILITY TO PROVIDE FOR FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND EXPANSION. WHICH OTHER CURRENT ZONING VIOLATIONS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. THE EXISTING BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 40,000 SQUARE FEET AND IT WAS BUILT IN 1984 BEFORE THE ADOPTION OF CURRENT CODES. THEREFORE, THE CURRENT USE IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE CURRENT OPEN RURAL ZONING CLASSIFICATION AND IS CONSIDERED ANONCONFORMING USE.

SECTION OCTOBER 3, 2002 A , NONCONFORMING USES ARE PROHIBITED AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THE CURRENT CODE. PROVIDED HERE IS A TABLE SHOWING THE TYPES OF USE CATEGORIES THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED IN CG ZONING. THE SKILLED NURSING AND REHAB FACILITY IS CONSIDERED GENERAL BUSINESS TYPE USE, WHICH IS PERMITTED.THE PROPOSED USE WOULD ALSO BE COMPATIBLE WITH A MIXED-USE LANE DESIGNATION AND IT WOULD ALSO ELIMINATE SOME OF THE MORE INTENSE USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN OPEN RURAL.

PROVIDED ON THIS SITE IS A COMPATIBILITY MAP WHICH SHOWS THE PROPERTIES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. THIS REQUEST WAS HEARD BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY AT THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 3, 2019. THE AGENCY VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THE REQUEST AND THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. OVERALL, STAFF HAS RECEIVED NO PHONE CALLS OR CORRESPONDENCE ABOUT THE PROPOSED REZONING. OVERALL, STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LDC AND CALM PLAN AND HAS PROVIDED FUNDING FOR APPROVAL AND DENIAL. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION. WE WILL STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. >> I SEE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE TODAY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, KAREN TAYLOR, 77 SARAGOSSA STREET.

WITH ME IS ROB WITH GREYSTONE HEALTHCARE AND THEY RECENTLY PURCHASED THE THERAPY CARE CENTER, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE. I'M NOT GOING TO USE MY PRESENTATION EITHER, SINCE WE ARE KIND OF ON A ROLL HERE. THIS IS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, AS JUSTIN GAVE YOU THE BACKGROUND, IT REALLY IS TO BRING IT INTO CONFORMANCE, SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO IT, THEY COULD REBUILD IF THEY WANT TO EXPAND THE FACILITY, THEY CAN.HEY DO HAVE EIGHT ACRES, AND RIGHT NOW, THEY JUST HAVE 40,000 SQUARE FEET ON IT, SO IT DOES HAVE ROOM FOR THAT.UT OTHER THAN THAT, WE ARE LOOKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TODAY AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM HERE, AND ALSO, ROB IS HERE AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

>> WE NOW OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND TEND TO ITEM NUMBER SIX.

SEEING NONE. MR. CHAIRMAN WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.>>

WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2019. >> 70.

>> REASONING 2019 Ã13 POINTS THERAPY CARE CENTER. WE HAVE A MOTION OF THE SECOND

APPROVED, PLEASE VOTE. >> ROLL CALL. >> YEAH, WE WILL DO ROLL CALL.

CALL THE ROLE. >> OR I CAN DO IT. COMMISSIONER DEAN?

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520. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE TODAY.

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ONTO NUMBER SEVEN. >> THIS IS AN AMENDMENT FOR RIVERS EDGE, TOO.

IT IS A PETITION TO AMEND THE RIVERS EDGE TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT BOUNDARY TO ADD APPROXIMATELY 96 ACRES OF LAND AND REMOVE LESS THAN AN ACRE.

IT SERVES RIVERTOWN. THIS IS AN AERIAL THAT SHOWS WHERE THE CDD IS LOCATED.

CDD. AND THE RIVERS EDGE CDD WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE FLORIDA LAND AND WATER COMMISSION IN 2017, AND THEN THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS APPROVED THE RIVERS EDGE TO CDD IN 2018. THEN AS I SAID, THEY COVER THE RIVERTOWN DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT.WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 4176 ACRES AND IT'S COMPRISED OF 4500 DWELLING UNITS, 300,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL, AND 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE, AND 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL. FLORIDA STATUTES, CHAPTER 190 IN PART FIVE .05 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. APPROVAL FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CDD AND THE CDD PROPOSES TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION OPERATION MAINTENANCE AND DRAINAGE OF ROADWAYS, LANDSCAPING, THE RIVER AMENITY, AND OTHER AMENITIES AND PARKS FOR THE ESTIMATED COST IS OVER 25 MILLION. IMPORTANT TO ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AS A CDD DOES NOT OBLIGATE THE COUNTY TO ANY OWNERSHIP, OPERATION, OR MAINTENANCE OF ANY INFRASTRUCTURE.

SPECIFICALLY THE PETITION ACTUALLY PROVIDES INSIDE OF IT THAT ANY ACCEPTANCE OR ANY OFFER ON DEDICATION TO THE COUNTY SHALL BE AT THE SOLE DISCRETION OF THE SPORT.

AND NOTHING IN THE PETITION SHALL BE CONSTRUED AS AN AFFIRMATIVE ACCEPTANCE BY THE SPORT OF IMPROVEMENTS OR ACCEPTANCE OF OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS.

CHAPTER 190 PROVIDES THAT ANY CDD THAT IS LESS THAN 2500 ACRES IN SIZE BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD. AND THERE'S SIX FACTORS TO BE CONSIDERED.

STAFF DID FIND THOSE SIX FACTORS THAT THE CDD DID MEET THOSE SIX FACTORS, THOSE WERE EXPLAINED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. THE CDD WAS ADVERTISED ACCORDING TO FLORIDA LAW.

WE DID ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, WE DID POST THE PROPERTY, ALERTING PEOPLE THAT THERE WAS A CDD APPLICATION ON SITE, AND THAT THERE WAS A HEARING PROPOSED. THERE HAS BEEN NO CORRESPONDENCE. WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CDD AMENDMENT AND WE OFFER TO SUPPORT YOUR MOTION TO DENY OR APPROVE. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND I WILL TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ALSO THAT YOU MAY

HAVE. >> I DON'T SEE ANY AT THIS TIME.

WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M WARREN GENTRY. I SERVE AS DISTRICT COUNCIL TO THE PETITIONER, THE RIVERS EDGE TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

YOU'VE JUST HEARD A VERY THOROUGH SUMMARY OF OUR PETITION IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO ADD TO THAT. BUT I AM AVAILABLE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. WE ALSO SUBMITTED SOME PREFILED TESTIMONY FROM OUR DISTRICT MANAGER, OUR DISTRICT ENGINEER, AND THE CHAIRMAN OF OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. UM, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN YOUR READING

MATERIALS. >> YES, ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS AT

THIS TIME. WE NOW HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU.

>> I OPEN UP NUMBER SEVEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NOTHING.

MR. CHAIRMAN WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENT. A MOTION TO ENACT 2019 Ã71, APPROVING CDD AND THE 2019 Ã01

RIVERS EDGE TO CDD BASED ON THREE FINDINGS. >> PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES FIVE 20. >> NUMBER EIGHT IS JUDICIAL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH?

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>> I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM KAREN TAYLOR ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 30.

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>> OKAY, COMMISSIONER JONES? >> I BELIEVE I RECEIVED THE SAME EMAIL AND NO QUESTIONS

FROM MS. TAYLOR >> I BELIEVE I ALSO RECEIVED THE SAME EMAIL .

YES, MA'AM? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

FOR THE RECORD, VALERIE PRESENTING AGENDA NUMBER EIGHT. THIS IS A REASONING APPLICATION FOR .86 ACRES OF LAND FROM OR TO CI, LOCATED NEAR 207 AND HILLTOP ROAD.

THIS AERIAL MAP SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 200 FEET OF PFRONTAGE WITH ACCESS FROM HILLTOP ROAD. AGAIN, THIS IS REASONING.

THERE IS APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES ADJACENT TO THE NORTH THAT WAS REZONED FROM OR TO CI AND 2004. THREE YEARS LATER, LITTLE BIT LESS, 2 A HALF ACRES WAS ALSO REZONED FROM OR TO CI. NEITHER OF THOSE PROPERTIES EVER HAD DEVELOPMENT ON THEM.

THIS IS THE ZONING MAP SHOWING THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY AT OPEN ROLE.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE USES WITHIN THE HIGH INTENSITY USE CATEGORY THAT MAY BE ALLOWED, SHOULD THIS ZONING GET APPROVED. THIS USE TABLE SHOWS AN INCREASED NUMBER OF USE CATEGORIES. IF THE REZONING IS APPROVED, FROM OPEN ROLE TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE. FROM AN ANALYSIS TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG MIXED USE AND THE STANDARDS WILL APPLY. THERE IS ALSO A BUFFER THAT MAY BE REQUIRED ALONG THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH. FOR THESE REASONS, STAFF FINDS AT THE REQUEST OF ZONING APPEARS TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THIS COMPATIBILITY MAP SHOWS SOME OF THE SURROUNDING CI ZONING DISTRICTS AND OTHER COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, INCLUDING COMMERCIAL GENERAL ALONG STATE ROAD 27.

THIS COMPATIBILITY ANALYSIS CHART GOES INTO DETAIL, PROVIDING THE USES, SOME OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS OF THE SURROUNDING USES, SOME PREVIOUSLY.

ON SEPTEMBER 19, THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY WILL RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. DISCUSSION FOCUSED ON THE SITE DESIGN AND THE BENEFITS OF REZONING TO A COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING DISTRICT. STAFF IS NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE OR PHONE CALLS REGARDING THE REQUEST OF REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY.

STAFF ALSO DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING. STAFF FINDS THE REQUESTS SUBSTANTIALLY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THEREFORE, THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, SO WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN, KAREN TAYLOR, 77 SARAGOSSA STREET. MR. MAYBERRY WAS WITH ME THIS MORNING, BUT HE WASN'T ABLE TO RETURN WITH ME THIS AFTERNOON, SO HE ASKED FOR APOLOGIES FOR THAT. BASICALLY AGAIN, WE ARE IN THE SAME SITUATION, I WON'T REALLY USE MINE IN THIS YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.THIS IS A PRETTY STANDARD, STRAIGHTFORWARD, HE BOUGHT ALL OF THESE PARCELS, THE OTHER ONES ARE ALREADY ZONED CI, AND JUST FOR YOUR INTEREST, THE QUARTER ONE WAS ZONED FOR OUR NET MANY YEARS AGO.

THEY WERE GOING TO MOVE FROM DOWNTOWN AND DECIDED TO STAY WHERE THEY WERE, SO ANYWAY, TWO THINGS THAT VALERIE DIDN'T MENTION, ONE IS THAT THERE IS A DOT DRAINAGE DITCH THAT RUNS ALONG THE BACKOF THE ENTIRE PIECE OF PROPERTY , AND IT'S QUITE WIDE, SO IT ALSO CREATES A NICE NATURAL BUFFER TO ANYTHING BEHIND, IF YOU HAD ANY CONCERNS ABOUT ANY OF THE RESIDENTIALPROPERTIES BEHIND . ND THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN WE WERE ÃTHEY ALSO ARE FILING THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS WHAT WE ARE DOING THIS.

AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE COUNTY NEEDED SOME ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR HILLTOP ROAD, SO WE ARE RESERVING THAT RIGHT OF WAY AND I DO HAVE A REQUEST IN TO GO AHEAD AND DEDICATE THAT. YOU WILL SEE THAT ON A FUTURE AGENDA OF YOURS.

WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. WE REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.

>> OKAY. I DON'T SEE ANY AT THIS TIME. >> OKAY.

OH, PS, WHEN I SEND THOSE EMAILS, I SEND THEM TO ALL OF YOU, SO YOU MAY MISS THEM, BUT I SEND THOSE TO YOUR STAFF AS WELL AS YOU, JUST SO B& IT'S REALLY JUST IN CASE YOU DO WANT TO MEET OR SOMETHING, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY NECESSARY. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE YOUR TIME.

>> I APPRECIATE IT, MS. TAYLOR, BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY THOROUGH. THIS ONE WAS ESPECIALLY.

THE HISTORY AND THE HISTORICAL PREMISE OF BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES, I FIND THAT VERY HELPFUL. THERE IS NO NEED TO MEET AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

THEY ARE VERY HELPFUL. >> THANK YOU. >> WE NOW OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, MAYBERRY COMMERCIAL. SEEN ON. MR. CHAIRMAN WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

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COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2019 Ã72. APPROVING REZONING 2019 Ã05, MAYBERRY COMMERCIAL.

THE REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY .86 ACRES OF LAND FROM OR TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIV , BASED UPON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT. WE HAVE A MOTION OF SECOND TO APPROVE, PLEASE VOTE. PASSES 5:0. NOW, WE ARE UP TO NUMBER 11.

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WE ARE GOOD TO GO. >> WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE ADJACENT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. THAT'S JEREMIAH. HE'S AN ATTORNEY.

DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION, THIS IS PURELY LEGISLATIVE, HE IS KIND OF GOING TO INTRODUCE HIS ÃTHE RESIDENCE OF THE HOA. AND THEN ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK, YOU KNOW, FURTHER INDIVIDUAL THREE MINUTES. HE WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP AND SUMMARIZE AT THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT. I TALKED TO THE CHAIR TO GRANT THAT PERMISSION. I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE ATTORNEY, HE IS OKAY WITH IT.

TO KIND OF SANDWICH THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION. >> HOW MUCH TIME DOES HE NEED

AT THE END? FOUR MINUTES, FIVE MINUTES? >> THAT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE PORTION.IT SHOULDN'T TAKE LONG TO SUMMARIZE THOSE.> OKAY.

CYNTHIA? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

IT'S A SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT. 2019 JONES COMMERCIAL. THE PROPOSAL IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FROM RESIDENTIAL BE TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF STATE ROAD 13 NORTH AND IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL GENERAL.AND THAT IS NOT REQUESTED TO BE CHANGED.

HERE IS THE AERIAL VIEW OF THAT SITE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS COMMERCIAL GENERAL. IT HAS COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH.

PUD TO THE WEST. PUD TO THE EAST, ZONING TO THE WEST.THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE THIS WITH RESIDENTIAL BE IN THAT LOCATION.

AND THE PROPOSAL IS TO EXTEND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL SELF ON STATE ROAD 13.

TO INCLUDE THOSE PROPERTIES. THE TWO PARCELS TOGETHER COMPRISING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OR ABOUT 7.7 ACRES ON BOTH SIDES. THEY ARE PROPOSING A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS AND A CARWASH ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE IS PROPOSED ON THE NORTH SIDE. THEY ALSO INCLUDED TEXT AMENDMENT CITING SPECIFIC POLICY FOR A MAXIMUM OF 45,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USES. THE SOUTH PARCEL WOULD BE LIMITED TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES WITH EXCEPTIONS TO THOSE. AND THE NORTH PARCEL WOULD BE LIMITED TO COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD USES THEY ARE PROVIDING FOR BUFFERS ON BOTH DEVELOPMENT EDGES.

THEY ARE ALSO INCLUDING THEY ARE ALSO INCLUDING CONNECTIVITY OPTIONS TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH. AND BETWEEN THE TWO PARCELS ACROSS THE PLACE.

THE CARWASH WILL BE ALLOWED AS AN ACCESSORY TO THAT CONVENIENCE STORE.

COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES ALLOW THE FOLLOWING USES, WHICH ARE NOT PERMITTED IN COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY INCLUDE PHARMACIES AND RESTAURANTS WITH DRIVE THROUGH'S, FREESTANDING ATMS, CONVENIENCE STORES WITH GAS PUMPS, GAS STATIONS WITHOUT AUTO SERVICE ORREPAIR, CARWASH FACILITIES, AUTOMOBILE , OIL CHANGE, OR TIRE SERVICE CENTER, AND A HOST OF OTHER USES THAT ARE LISTED BELOW. THE TEXT AMENDMENT WOULD PROHIBIT THE FOLLOWING. MARINAS, COMMUNITY MARINAS, GOLF COURSE DRIVING RANGES, AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLE AND BOAT STORAGE. AS FOR BACKGROUND, THIS IS THE SITE OF THE FORMER LANDSCAPE NURSERY. THEY ACTUALLY STILL HOLD A CONCURRENCY CERTIFICATE FOR UP TO 75,000 SQUARE FEET OF SHOPPING CENTER.

THEAPPLICANT , APPLICATION WAS HEARD BY THE PCA IN APRIL 2016 AND THEY VOTED 4: ONE TO RECOMMEND DENIAL, AFTER WHICH THE APPLICANT WITHDREW THE APPLICATION.

THE CURRENT APPLICATION IS FOR 7500 SQUARE FEET OF CONVENIENCE STORE WITH 12 GAS PUMPS AND THE CARWASH. THE SITE ON THE NORTH SIDE WOULD HAVE 14,000 SQUARE FEET

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AND ONE FROM THE PLACE . ON THE NORTH SIDE, THE WORD WILL BE ONE CUT IN POSITION TO CROSS FROM THE SOUTHERN ACCESS AND ALSO, THEY WOULD REMOVE STATE ROAD 13 WHERE IT'S CURB CUT. THEY ARE PROPOSING A SIX FOOT HIGH WALL ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE PROPERTY LINE AND A SIX FOOT HIGH FENCE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE OFFICE PROPERTY LINE. AND NEW SIDEWALKS ARE PROPOSED ON BOTH SIDES.

HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE SITE PLAN. I AM SURE THAT THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THAT. FOR CONCURRENCY AND TRANSPORTATION REVIEW, THE APPLICANT STATED IN THEIR APPLICATION THAT THE TRIPS WOULD NOT EXCEED 300 P.M. PEAK HOURS. THE SCALE OF THE CURRENT PROPOSAL WOULD GENERATE MORE THAN 300 P.M. TRIPS. THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A DETAILED SITE ACCESS AND OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION AND APPROVAL.

THE DIRECTLY ACCESSIBLE LINK IS CURRENTLY OPERATING AT JUST UNDER 75 PERCENT, THAT'S BASED ON A 2019 TRAFFIC REPORT AND AT 93 PERCENT BASED ON TOTAL COMMITTED TRAFFIC.

THE PLACE IS CURRENTLY CLASSIFIED AS A LOCAL ROAD AND THE ANALYSIS FINDS THAT IT'S ANTICIPATED OVER 2000 DAILY TRIPS MAY REQUIRE AN UPGRADE TO POLICY A13 STATES THAT ROSE BE FUTURE LAND USE MAP ALLOWS LESS INTENSE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES, INCLUDING CONVENIENCE STORES, BUT WITHOUT THE GAS PUMPS. THIS IS ALSO ON THE WILLIAM SCENIC HIGHWAY , WHICH LIMITS COMMERCIAL USES. COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WOULD ALLOW GAS PUMPS AND A DRIVE THROUGH WITH ÃTHAT WOULD INCLUDE RESTAURANTS AND PHARMACIES, THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY ALLOWED. THE NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE ARRANGED AND THIS APPROVES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO EMPHASIZE HUMANSCALE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DESIGN. STAFF FINDS THAT A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS DOES NOT ACHIEVE THAT POLICY. THE EXISTING COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL NOTE AT RACETRACK ROAD INTERSECTION IS IN AN AREA THAT HAS TRANSITIONED OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS TO BE MORE COMMERCIAL. STAFF HAS CONSIDERED EXTENDING MOREINTENSE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL SELF ON STATE ROAD 13 . THE AREA SOUTH OF THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL NOTE IS DESIGNATED RESIDENTIAL BE, WHICH ALLOWS LESS INTENSE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES. AND STAFF IS OF THE OPINION, BASED ON THE PROVISION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PROVISIONS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SHOULD DEVELOP AS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND MINIMIZE IMPACTS ON RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND LIMIT THE BOUNDARIES OF THE COMMERCIAL Ã COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL NOTE. AGAIN, HERE'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, YOU CAN SEE THE ESTATES IS ACCESSED THROUGH THE PLACE AND TO ITS WEST.

THERE IS ALSO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY BEHIND THE COMMERCIAL ON THE EAST SIDE.

THEY DO HAVE A COMMUNITY SHOPPING CENTER TO THE NORTH AND THE COMMUNITY SHOPPING CENTER TO THE SOUTH. STAFF HAS RECEIVED A NUMBER OF PHONE CALLS AND CORRESPONDENCE SINCE THIS APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED. AND THE APPLICANT HELD A NORTHWEST SECTOR COMMUNITY MEETING IN JULY, APPROXIMATELY 50 RESIDENTS PARTICIPATED AND THEY DISCUSSED A NUMBER OF ISSUES, INCLUDING TRAFFIC GENERATION, CRIME FOR 24 HOUR OPERATION, THE HOURS OF OPERATION, AND NOISE THAT WOULD BE GENERATED AMONG OTHER THINGS, SUCH AS ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS. THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY ON OCTOBER 3 OF THIS YEAR VOTED 4:3 IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING DENIAL AND DISCUSSED A NUMBER OF ISSUES, INCLUDING INCREASED TRAFFIC ON THE NEW-PAR'S PLACE. RESIDENTIAL STREET.

COMPATIBILITY OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS NEAR FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

CONFIRMATION FROM STAFF THAT THE ECONOMIC NEEDS ANALYSIS IS NOT REQUIRED FOR AN AMENDMENT.

THE SAFETY OF FUEL TANKS AND FEELING SYSTEMS WAS DISCUSSED AND THEY ASKED THE APPLICANT THE NEED FOR REQUESTING A MAXIMUM OF 45,000 SQUARE FEET PWHERE THEY ARE PROPOSING JUST OVER 22,000 SQUARE FEET. APPROXIMATELY 15 CITIZENS ACTIVELY PROVIDED PUBLIC INPUT DURING THAT HEARING. THE MAJORITY EXPRESSED THEIR OPPOSITION TO THE CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS. MANY RAISE CONCERNS ABOUT HEALTH AND SAFETY, GIVEN ITS PROXIMITY TO A FUELING FACILITY NEAR THEIR HOMES. ACCESSED FROM THE PLACE TO THE BUSINESS WAS NOT DEEMED TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.NDER RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPACTS TO HOME VALUES. AT THAT TIME, THE APPLICANT WAS ASKED BY THE PCA IF THEY WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF ELIMINATING FUEL SERVICES, AND ALSO OFFER ANY CONCESSIONS. THIS WAS AFTER THE VOTE TO RECOMMEND DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT TO CLIENT. AS FAR AS STANDARD OF REVIEW, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IS

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>> THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. LINDSAY, SENIOR PLANNER WITH ENGLAND THAMES AND MILLER.

FOR THE RECORD, 14775 OLD SAINT AUGUSTINEROAD . THANK YOU, CYNTHIA, FOR LAYING OUT WHAT OUR REQUEST IS TODAY. I WOULD LIKE TO WALK US THROUGH THIS STORY OF JUST CONVERTING COMMERCIAL TO COMMERCIAL. AND WITH ME TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT IS HER APPLICANT OWNER, REPRESENTATIVES OF FIRST COAST ENERGY, WHICH IS A WELL-KNOWN CORPORATE ENTITY HERE IN ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY AND IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA. TEAM MEMBERS FROM ENGLAND THAMES AND MILLER, REGARDING OUR TRANSPORTATION, ENGINEER, SITE ENGINEERING, AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE, AS WELL AS TWO ADDITIONAL EXPERTSWITH US, CHRIS , PRESIDENT OF LAND ASSOCIATES FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECTS OF DEALING WITH FUELING STATIONS, AND MICHAEL RORIE, LICENSED REAL ESTATE APPRAISER TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP ON PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY. SO, TO BEGIN, THIS IS A SUMMARY OF OUR SMALL-SCALE LAND-USE AMENDMENT TO RIGHT SIZE WHAT HAS BEEN OUR HISTORIC ZONING DISTRICT OF COMMERCIAL GENERAL ON THIS PROPERTY. THIS STORY IS TOLD FROM COMMERCIAL TO COMMERCIAL, BUT THE LAND-USE AMENDMENT TO THE MAP, OR FUTURE LAND USE MAP COUPLED WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT THAT SIGNIFICANTLY LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF INTENSITY OF COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE PROPERTY LIMITS ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC ROAD OF OTOS PLACE, LIMITS AND DEFIANCE SCENIC EDGES ALONG THE BOUNDARIES AND PARAMETERS, AND CALLS FOR INTERCONNECTIVITY AND IDENTIFIES USES BY PARCELS, BOTH THE SOUTHERN AND THE NORTHERN PARCELS. WE'VE GONE THROUGH A SERIES OF MAPS, BUT THIS IS THE CORNER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR THAT'S DEFINED AS THE COMMUNITIES OF AFRICA, THE CREEK, ABOUT TO GO FURTHER SOUTH, WHICH IS SWITZERLAND IN THIS AREA, IT'S MARKED BY STATE ROAD 13, WHICH IS A FOUR-LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY WITH MEDIAN, BIKE LANES, AND SIDEWALKS.

WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE SCREENING STANDARDS THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD WITH THE WILLIAM SCENIC HIGHWAY. AND YOU CAN SEE THE SITE THAT'S OUTLINED IN YELLOW, HISTORICALLY, THIS HAS BEEN USED AS A RETAIL PLANT NURSERY AND IT HAS EXISTING VEHICULAR ACCESS, DRIVEWAY CAUGHT ONTO A OTOS PLACE AND ONTO STATE ROAD 13 ON THE SOUTHERN PIECE, AS WELL AS THE NORTHERN PIECE THERE . WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THIS SITE BECAUSE OF ITS PRIMARY FRONTAGE ALONG STATE ROAD 13. AND IT'S JUST AS A GARDEN CENTER, YOU MAY HAVE GONE THERE YOURSELF. WE ARE ALSO FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS THE LAST UNTIL PIECE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AREA ON THE NORTH LIST SECTOR OF STATE ROAD 13 AS YOU TRAVEL SOUTH. REALLY, THE PIECES ARE COMING IN WITH THE CUSTOM-BUILT HOMES ALONG STATE ROAD 13, AND WE HAVE THE CREEK WITH THE GOLF COURSE, ON YOUR LIBRARY SITE, AND THE FOUR-LANE THAT TRANSITION STRIP TO LAMBERT THAT ROBERTS ROAD AND THE SPEEDWAY. WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PERMITTING HISTORY AND FILING FOR THIS SITE THAT BRINGS US IN FAMILIAR THAT IN 2016, WE DID FILE FOR A SMALL-SCALE LAND-USE AMENDMENT AND SOME THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN.

ONE, THE APPLICANT HAS NOW BECOME THE OWNER FOR COMPLETING THE LAND PURCHASE IN 2017 AND HAS ENTERTAINED TWOSIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS TO DEVELOP UNDER THE CURRENT EXISTING ENTITLEMENT , BUT IT'S REPRESENTED BY HER CONCLUSORY CERTIFICATE FOR SHOPPING CENTER SPACE. WHEN DEALING WITH THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND SERIOUS OFFERS TO DEVELOP THE SITE, REALLY WHAT THE APPLICANT OWNER LIKES TO LOOK AT IS THE HIGHEST ANDBEST USE OF THIS SITE IS A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH THE FUELING STATIONS AND OFFICE ON THE NORTHERN PIECE. CHANGES TO THAT SITE PLAN REALLY HAS ENABLED THEM TO DEDICATE THE SINGLE USE FOR THE SOUTHERN PARCEL AS A CONVENIENCE STORE AND FUELING STATION. AT ENHANCE BUFFERING. LESS THAN HALF THAT SIZE.

AND ALSO, RESTRICTS SOME OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE REGARDING ACCESS.

WE WILL WALK THROUGH THAT IN THE PRESENTATION, SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCES ON OUR PERFORMANCE PLAN. CYNTHIA WALKED THROUGH IT OR PROPOSE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS, BUT THEN TO HIGHLIGHTWHERE WE ARE, THIS IS THE EXTENSION OF THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW , THERE ARE SEVERAL COLORS, REGULATORY COLORS ON THIS MAP.HEN ON

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THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT. WHEN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 1985, THE LAND-USE COLOR ON THE MAP WAS BLUE, BUT THIS FASHION PATTERN HERE REPRESENTS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, SO WHILE YOU MAY NOT HAVE THIS SAME LABEL ARE THE SAME COLOR ON THE MAP, THE EXTENT OF THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ON THIS NOTE OF RACETRACK ROAD, AND STATE ROAD 13, HAVE THE SAME COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL USES THEREBY THE DRI.

ANOTHER MISNOMER THAT'S GOING ON IS WHAT YOU SEE ON THE LAND-USE ALONG STATE ROAD 13, THIS CORE DOOR WAS THE RESIDENTIAL BE LAND-USE CATEGORY.

YOU KNOW THAT RESIDENTIAL VIEW DOES PREVENT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES AND EVERY PIECE, EXCEPT FOR THE PARCELS THERE ON THE FOREST ROAD ARGUES FOR COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES.

WE WILL SEE ON THE ZONING MAP SOME OF THOSE TRANSITIONS ABOUT THOSE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES GROUPED INTO OFFICE. ALSO, THIS LARGE CHUNK THAT WE SEE HERE IN RESIDENTIAL BE, WE SEE THAT THAT IS THE BAPTIST CHURCH WITH INTENTIONAL NONRESIDENTIAL USE AN INSTITUTIONAL TYPE YOU SEE ON THE CORNER. THAT'S REALLY DEFINING THE BOUNDARIES OF WHERE WE SEE THE EXTENT OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES ON THIS SECTION OF STATE ROAD 13. SO, IN TAKING THE REGULATORY MAP THAT WE HAVE IN THE FUTURE LAND USE COLORS, WHAT I'VE DONE IS GROUPED UP BY SIMILAR USES THE EXTENT OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AND OFFICE ACTIVITY AND INSTITUTIONAL USES. AND THE VACANT USES THAT YOU SEE. SO, WHAT THIS MAP SHOULD RELATE TO YOU IN THAT LIGHT AQUA COLOR IS THE EXTENT OF COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES THAT ARE EXISTING WITHIN THE CORRIDOR, THAT WE HAVE POCKETS OF OFFICE SPACE USES, WHETHER THAT IS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE OR MEDICAL BASED OFFICE, AND THAT IS BRACKETED AT THE END AND WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL THAT HAS GROWN IN AROUND WHAT HAS BEEN SOME OF THE HISTORIC ZONING DISTRICTS OF COMMERCIAL GENERAL ALONG STATE ROAD 13. I WOULD LIKE TO WALK US THROUGH A SERIES OF GOOGLE IMAGES, USING THE YELLOW BOUNDARY OF OUR PROPERTY SITE THERE ON STATE ROAD 13, RACETRACK ROAD.

ND WE HAVE THIS ROAD HERE, TO SEE HOW THE PATTERN OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HAS GROWN WITHIN THE NOTE, AS WELL AS GROUND DOWN WITH ÃALONG STATE ROAD 13, REALLY TO THIS BOUNDARY. IF YOU TAKE NOTE ON SOME OF THE PARTS TO WATCH FOR, IT'S THE INQUIRY DEVELOPMENTS AS THEY COME IN. WE HAD THE PUBLIC'S, THE FOOD LINE, AND DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT HAVE COME IN ALONG THE WAY, AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL BUILDING AND AROUND THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR ON STATE ROAD 13.

AND YOU WILL SEE SOME EXISTING COMMERCIAL USES HERE BY OUR BOUNDARY SITE.

SO, REAL QUICKLY, JUST TO WALK YOU THROUGH, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT AND THE FUEL BECOMING MORE ENHANCE. MAIN POINT, THAT HAS ALSO HAPPENED, WOULD BE THE FOUR-LANE FROM STATE ROAD 13 TO A TWO LANE HIGHWAY. AGAIN, THAT FOUR-LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY WITH THE MEDIAN LANDSCAPING AND INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG THE WAY THAT WE ENJOY NOW AS PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS. THEN YOU CAN SEE, AS YOU WATCH THE YELLOW BOUNDARY, OR NURSERY SITE, EXPAND AND CONTRACT, AS IS COMMERCIAL USE, WHICH IS REALLY SELLING AND GROWING THINGS THAT ARE GREEN, WHICH CAN GET USED TO, AS PART OF WHAT IS A BUFFER, BUT ESSENTIALLY A PRODUCT THAT IS SOLD ON THAT SITE, YOU CAN SEE AT DIFFERENT POINTS WHEN THAT SITE HAS HAD MORE PRODUCT ON AND DIFFERENT FUNCTION FOR IT. HERE'S WHERE WE HAVE THE PUBLIC'S, YOU START TO SEE THAT. YOU KNOW THIS SITE, THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE COME INTO THE CORRIDOR, YOU USE IT YOURSELF. TWO DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANTS, BANKS WITH DRIVE-THROUGH'S, WE HAVE AUTOMOTIVE SERVICE CENTERS, DAYCARE FACILITIES NEXT TO EACH OTHER.OCIAL ARTS CENTER, FITNESS CENTERS. HERE'S WHERE WE START TO SEE SOME OF THE OTHER GROWTH IN 2006 AND REALLY TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE HERE, THIS IS WHEN WE HAVE THE COMMERCIAL CENTER THAT'S COME IN, INCURRED BY THE POND, IS USED FOR OFFSTREET PARKING. YOU CAN SEE MORE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING IN IN 2010, REALLY SOME OF THIS ACTIVITY IS HAPPENING NORTH AT HER INTERSECTION WITH THE TWO, THE PAIRINGS OF THE VILLAGES THAT YOU HAVE, AND THAT'S INCURRED BY THE GATE GAS STATION WITH 10 FUELING STATIONS, FUELING PUMPS THERE AT THAT CORNER PIECE.

AND AS WE GET INTO 2018, WE START TO SEE HOW THIS IS THE CURRENT PATTERN THAT WE ARE MOST FAMILIAR WITH NOW ON SOME OF THE TRANSITIONAL USES THAT HAVE OCCURRED.THIS IS OUR ZONING MAP AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, BECAUSE THE LINCHPIN HAS BEEN FOR THIS PROPERTY, HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED AS COMMERCIAL GENERAL.T ONE POINT IN TIME, THE LAND-USE CATEGORY FOR RESIDENTIAL BE WOULD HAVE PERMITTED THE GAS STATION WITH THE PUMPS AS EVIDENCED BY THE JIFFY THAT WAS HERE. THAT WAS PERMANENT IN 1985.

GOING THROUGH FOR USE, THE TANKS WERE REMOVED IN 2009 AFTER TRANSITION FROM HUNTLEY OVER TO KANGAROO EXPRESS. AS MYSELF, AS A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT, HAD GOTTEN GAS THERE AT THAT CONVENIENCE STORE. YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS THE CG PORTION, WHICH IS SIMILARLY SITUATED TO OUR PROPERTY, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL BE LAND-USE AND SEG SOME DISTRICT WITH DRI THAT WAS BUILT RIGHT BEHIND IT, UP TO IT. THIS CG CORRIDOR, WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH NOW, THIS IS THE EYE DOCTOR AND THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE THE SITE ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL LOT. YOU HAVE THE NEW COFFEE SHOP THAT OPENED UP, AS WELL AS THE

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YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE REZONING PROJECT.

SUCKERING OUT THE COUNTY TO SE . TO REFLECT WITH THE LAND-USE AND THE MARKET AND THE PATTERN OF THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE.N DECEMBER 2006, WHEN IT WAS Ã THE SITE WAS IDENTIFIED AS A POTENTIAL CANDIDATE FOR THE COUNTY TO ADMINISTRATIVELY REZONED FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. IN JANUARY OF 2007, THAT SITE WAS REMOVED AND THERE WAS A POLICY GENERALLY TAKEN THAT THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND ZONING PRIVATE PROPERTY FROM ONE TO DOWN ZONING IT TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO CNN OR ANY OTHER PURPOSE, SO THAT PROJECT WAS HALTED.OU CAN SEE THAT THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL HAS BEEN RETAINED IN THAT SITE FOR THE PROPERTY. THIS IS THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP, JUST REFLECT WHERE WE ARE NOW, AND I WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT IT MEANS.

WHEN WE SEE THESE COLORS ON THE MAP, RESIDENTIAL BE, THERE IS COMMERCIAL THAT'S PERMITTED IN EVERY PARCEL, BUT FOR THOSE FOR THROUGHOUT THE FOREST ROAD WHERE WE HAVE THAT IN THERE, IT'S COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THOSE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSITIONING FROM COMMERCIAL TO COMMERCIAL AND CHANGING THE COLOR ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM RESIDENTIAL BE TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, TO GAIN WHAT HAS BEEN OUR COMMUNITY CG ZONE DISTRICT, WE LIKE TO LOOK AT THE IMPACTS AND GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THIS EQUATES, ONE TO ONE. AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS REDUCING WHAT IS THEIR CURRENT ENTITLEMENT FROM 75,000 SQUARE FEET TO AN ENTITLEMENT OF 45,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS THE TRIP EQUIVALENCY WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PROPOSED COLUMN FOR 77,000 SQUARE-FOOT CONVENIENCE STORE WITH 12 PUMPS. THE COUNTY REGULATIONS IN REGARDS TO CONCURRENCY WOULD HAVE US LOOK AT NET NEW PEAK HOUR TRIPS. SO, THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE IN THIS COLUMN, FIRST DOWN UNDERNEATH, AND THAT IS A DROP WHEN YOU COMPARE THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND 12 PUMPS TO THE PERMITTED USE OF 75,000. WE WANTED TO BE CLEAR, THOUGH, WITH THE COMMUNITY AND HERE WITH THE COUNTY, ON THAT IF YOU LOOK AT DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE USES, HOW THAT WOULD FALL IN THE SAME ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, SO WE'VE PROVIDED FOR YOU COMPARISONS TO LOOK AT GROSS DAILY TRAFFIC AND GROSS P.M. PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC, SO THAT WE CAN SEE THERE ARE DIFFERENCES. AND THOSE TWO FACTORS, THE USE WOULD BE HIGHER, BUT IT WOULD STILL BE IN THE SAME SPECTRUM OR ORDER OF MAGNITUDE. A COMPARABLE, REASONABLE AMOUNT IN CHANGES WHEN YOU LOOK AT TWO OTHER FACTORS, WHICH IS NOT YOUR STANDARD, BUT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT, SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE IMPACTS THAT ARE RELATED TO OUR PROPOSED USE. AGAIN, IN COMPARING, AS WE MENTIONED, THE CHANGE FROM THE 2016 PLAN TO THIS PLAN, ENABLES AND REALLY DEDICATING THE SOUTHERN PARCEL TO THE CONVENIENCE STORE ALONE ALLOWS THE PRESERVATION OF ROUGHLY HALF OF THE SITE.

46 PERCENT. AND 120 EXISTING MATURE TREES ON THE SITE.

WE WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT. REALLY WHAT THIS LANDING CHANGE THE AS BRING FORWARD FOR US, FOR ADDITIONAL USES. THE ONE THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS SALES. THIS IS A SNAPSHOT JUST TO REMIND US ALL THAT WE DO HAVE TRIPS AVAILABLE AND PRESERVED AND MAINTAINED IN THE CONCURRENCY CERTIFICATE OF 75,000 SQUARE FEET OF SHOPPING CENTER AND HOW WE CAN APPLY THAT IS IN TWO WAYS. ONE, WE COULD FILE IN CONSTRUCTION PLANS WITH THE COUNTY AND HAVING A 75,000 FOOT SHOPPING CENTER SPLIT BETWEEN THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN PARCELS ON OTOS PLACE OR WE CAN CONVERT THAT DOWN TO WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED YOU, DOWN TO 45,000 SQUARE FEET THAT WOULD YIELD OUR 7000 SQUARE-FOOT CONVENIENCE STORE AND 12 PUMPS.

THE TAKE AWAY ON THAT IS THE TRIPS THAT WE YIELD FROM EACH OF THOSE EQUIVALENCY BUCKETS ARE RESERVED ON THE STATE ROAD 13 AND IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, YOU SEE IT'S ABOUT THE STATE ROAD 13 ON DISAFFECTED LANE, ABOUT A 74 PERCENT CAPACITY. HAS 74 PERCENT AVAILABLE CAPACITY ON STATE ROAD 13. CYNTHIA WALKED US THROUGH, BUT REALLY, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE LAND-USE IS BETWEEN COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL BEING ONE OF THE GREAT ASPECTS OF HAVING RESIDENTIAL BE LAND USES. YOU DO HAVE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THE VEHICLE DRIVERS THERE, AND I'VE BANDED THEM IN BLUE, SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE WOULD BE. WE TALKED THROUGH WATER CONCURRENCY CERTIFICATE IS IN TITLE IV, THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN IS ONE ITERATION OF IT.

SOME OF THE ELEMENTS WILL BE SIMILAR ON OUR PERFORMANCE PLAN THAT WE'VE PROPOSED FOR YOU AND SOME ARE CHANGE. NAMELY, THAT YOU SEE THERE, THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA OR PARKING LOT THAT'S REQUIRED TO MEET THE PARKING NEED , TO HAVE 75,000 SQUARE FEET SPLIT

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SO, IF YOU ARE DELIVERING TO THE SHOPPING CENTER, YOU ARE IN THIS AREA, IF YOU ARE VISITING THE SHOPPING CENTER AS A CONSUMER, THEN YOU ARE IN THIS FRONT OF THE AREA.

THIS IS WHERE THE ACTIVITY ZONES ARE AT DIFFERENT TIMES. LIGHTING THAT'S NECESSARY FOR THE EMPLOYEES ACCESS IN AND OUT. DIFFERENT PARKING AREAS FOR THE EMPLOYEES, SO THAT'S AN ACTIVITY AREA. NOTE THE DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU SEE OUR PERFORMANCE PLAN. YOU SEE HERE, THAT WE NEED A 30 FOOT SCENIC EDGE ALONG STATE ROAD 13. ALSO WITHIN THAT SCENIC EDGE IS THE SCENIC HIGHWAY STANDARD AND DEVELOPMENT EDGES. THE KEY FEATURE THAT'S RETAINED BETWEEN BOTH PLANS IS THE PLACEMENT OF OUR STORMWATER PONDS. HERE, IT'S FOR TWO PURPOSES.

WE HAVE TO HANDLE OUR ON-SITE DRAINAGE THAT'S MAKING PART OF OUR BUFFER.

AS IS ALLOWED ON OUR DEVELOPMENT EDGE. IN OUR PERFORMANCE PLAN, WE STAY OUT OF THAT, SO IT'S 35 FEET OF EXISTING MATURE TREE CANOPY.ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT HOW THE SITE FUNCTIONS IS TO LOOK AT TRAFFIC SCENARIOS. BEAUTIFUL TRAFFIC SCENARIOS.

I WOULD LIKE TO WALK YOU THROUGH QUICKLY, THREE SCENARIOS.

ONE WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM APPROVED, THIS IS OUR SHOPPING CENTER.

WHAT THIS IS RELATING TO YOU, JUST TO REORIENT OURSELVES IS ALONG THE BOTTOM, THIS IS THE EXISTING TRAFFIC FLOW THAT'S COMING IN AND OUT. THIS IS OTOS PLACE ANDWHAT IT SAYS IS OUR 102 TRIPS WOULD BE GENERATED BY THAT SHOPPING CENTER .

IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM MAXIMUM FOR PERFORMANCE PLAN, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR YOU, WE SEE THAT IN FOLLOWING THE COUNTY'S REGULATION, THIS WOULD YIELD AN ADDITIONAL NUMBER OF TRIPS AND AN ADDITIONAL 23 TRIPS COMING OUT ON NEW-PAR'S. THIS REMAINS GENERALLY THE SAME. WHEN WE LOOK AT GROSS BUILDING AREA.

THE NATURE OF THIS PARTICULAR USE BEING SOMETHING THAT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE, AND THE WAY THAT IT FUNCTIONS IS THAT IT IS NOT A PARTICULAR DESTINATION.

AND THAT YOU WOULD ARRIVE AS YOU WOULD FOR A SHOPPING CENTER OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF USE, BUT IT CAPTURES CLASSIFY TRAFFIC, SO ABOUT 65 PERCENT OF OUR TRAFFIC THAT'S GENERATED TO THE SITE COMES OUT OF THE EXISTING VEHICLE FLOW. WHAT THIS IS IS VERY SPECIFIC TO RECOGNIZING IT 65 PERCENT IS COMING OUT OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW. IT'S VERY LOCATION SPECIFIC TO THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S ON STATE ROAD 13. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE THREE OPTIONS, YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE SAME POINT OF MAGNITUDE, DEPENDING ON WHICH MODEL VARIATION YOU USE, YOU ARE WITHIN THAT RANGE, AND THAT WAS INTENTIONAL WHEN WE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED FROM 75,000 SQUARE FEET TO 45,000 SQUARE FEET, TO KEEP THAT SCENARIO IN PLACE, REGARDING FOR THIS SPECIFIC USE. ONE OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT CAME UP DURING OUR NORTH SECTOR MEETING AND IN OUR PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY MEETING IS TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS SITE WOULD FUNCTION IF WE WERE TO GO PERMANENT NOW.

THIS IS PEELING AWAY FROM OUR CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN ON THE SHOPPING CENTER.

CITE TO SHOW YOU, ON THE SOUTHERN PIECE, OTOS PLACE AND STATE ROAD 13, REALLY WHAT THE TRUCK ROUTE WOULD BE. WHEN WE HAVE DELIVERIES FOR AGGRESSOR, THEY WILL COME DOWN NEW-PAR'S PLACE TO HAVE BACK OF THE HOUSE NEEDS. DO THEIR DELIVERIES, DO THEIR MANEUVERS THROUGHOUT, THEN COME OUT THROUGH STATE ROAD 13 AND TRAVEL SOUTH AGAIN.SO, LET'S LOOK AT OUR PERFORMANCE PLAN THAT'S PROPOSED WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT AND THE LAND-USE, AND REALLY AGAIN, WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THE 2016 FILING IS THE DEDICATION OF THE SOUTHERN PARCEL TO FULLY USE THE FOR THE CONVENIENCE STORE. WHAT THAT DOES IS ALLOW THE OWNER APPLICANT TO YIELD OVER ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE PROVIDING FOR ADDITIONAL ENHANCED BUFFERS AND RETENTION OF EXISTING TREE CANOPY IN THE AREA.T'S ALSO REMOVAL.YOU WILL REMEMBER, TWO DIFFERENT FAST FOOD OUT PARCELS THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND WOULD NOT FIT ON THIS SITE WITH USING THIS AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE THAT'S THE DEDICATION. AGAIN, USUALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE DAILY SITE, THEY CAN BE FIT ON PARCELS THAT ARE HALF THIS SIZE AND THIS IS THE 5 A HALF ACRE SITE. ADDITIONAL PARTS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE BUFFERING WE HAVE ON THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE SOUTHERN PARCEL AND AVERAGE DEVELOPMENT EDGE ALONG OTOS PLACE. THAT'S INTENTIONAL.E WANT TO RETAIN THAT SENSE OF ARRIVAL THAT'S ON OTOS PLACE, AND IN DOING SO, WE'VE ALIGNED, AND YOU CAN SEE, IT'S HITTING HERE,

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WE REMOVED ONE OF THE ACCESS POINTS, ESSENTIALLY THAT BACK OF THE HOUSE ACCESS POINT TO ALIGN IT WITH THE OFFICE POINT, AND BY DOING THAT, WE STAY OUT OF THE MEDIAN ON A LOCAL ROAD AND THAT CAN BE RETAINED AS IT IS NOW, AS A PUBLIC ROAD. WE NOTED THAT OUR STORMWATER PONDS ARE IN THE SAME LOCATION. THAT DOES TWO THINGS. ONE, HANDLES OUR ON-SITE DRAINAGE, AND ALSO BECOMES PART OF OUR BUFFERING OR SEPARATION ABUSES FROM THE STATES LOST ITS TO THE WEST THERE, THEN THE ACTIVITY OF OUR SITE, WHICH IS GEARED TOWARD STATE ROAD 13, SO AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE ACTIVITY OF THE HOUSE IS. OUR DAILY STASHES, PEDESTRIAN PASSAGEWAY CONNECTED INTO THE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE PROPOSED ON OTOS PLACE, THEN FACING HERE ON TO STATE ROAD 13. YOU ALSO SEE THAT WE HAVE ARE INTERCONNECTIVITY PLAN TO GO FOR THE SHOPPING CENTER HERE, THIS IS THE ANCHOR AND THE 24 HOUR FITNESS AND DENTIST THAT YOU MOVE ON THROUGH, HEADING NORTH. THEN WE HAVE ADDITIONAL SCENIC EDGE AND THE HIGHWAY STANDARDS THAT WE ARE MAINTAINING ON BOTH PLANS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT 46 PERCENT BUFFER AND SIDEWALKS THAT REALLY ADDRESS THE PEDESTRIAN NATURE, YOU ARE ARRIVING BY VEHICLE, AND THAT PHYSICAL COMPONENT ON DEALING WITH BOTH

PARCELS. >> WE ARE FINISHING ON THIS. AGAIN, TO COMPARE BETWEEN THE TWO PLANS, DRIVEWAYS AND TRAFFIC FLOW, THIS WAS ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT WAS RETAINED THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT PCA. CYNTHIA MENTIONED THAT HER STAFF REPORT, HOPEFULLY THIS CAN KIND OF HIT HOME ONCE WE PEEL AWAY THE TREE LAYER OF OUR CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN TO LOOK AT BOTH SITE PLANS. ON THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN IS OUR PROPOSED PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE, IT HAS A SINGULAR ACCESS POINT. OTOS PLACE, STATE ROAD 13, THIS GREEN BUILDING IS THE OFFICE. ON THE RIGHT, WE HAVE THE PERMITTED SHOPPING CENTER.

OTOS PLACE, STATE ROAD 13, HERE IS OUR MEDIAN, IT GETS CLIPPED. THERE IS ENTRANCE POINT FOR THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE WHERE THE CONSUMERS WOULD GO.ND HERE'S THE BACK OF THE HOUSE ENTRANCE POINT AND WE CAN SEE THOSE DISTANCES FROM THE PROPERTY. AND THE OFF ALIGNMENT.

JEFF CAN SPEAK TO WHAT'S CALLED TURBULENCE ON OTOS PLACE AND WHAT I CALL IT IS CENTRALIZED MOVEMENT FEATURES OF THE SINGER ACCESS POINTS WHERE YOU'RE COMING IN AND OUT VERSUS WHEN WE HAVE THESE, THE OPTION WILL MOVEMENTS AT THE ACCESS POINTS COMING INTO THE SITE, EXITING THE SITE, COMING INTO THE NORTHERN PARCEL AND EXITING THE NORTHERN PARCEL INTO THE SOUTHERN PARCEL. SO, THIS DEMONSTRATES THE IMPROVED PERFORMANCE BY REMOVING ACCESS POINT ONTO OTOS PLACE WITH OUR PERFORMANCE PLAN AND REALLY LIMITING WHERE TRAFFIC WILL GO AND RETAINING THAT SENSE OF CHARACTER FOR OTOS PLACE.

ALSO TO COMPARE WITH OUR PERFORMANCE PLAN WOULD YIELD FOR YOU ON THE TRUCK ROUTE, THIS WOULD BE DELIVERY FOR THE FUEL CELLS. THIS IS INTENTIONAL IN OUR SITE PLAN TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE HAVE, AGAIN, OUR STORE, OUR CANOPIES, OUR TANKS ARE LOCATED HERE.

THIS IS HOW IT WORKS. THEY COME IN OFF OF STATE ROAD 13, THEY DELIVER THE FUEL ON THE RIGHT SIDE AND EXITS BACK OUT STATE ROAD 13. OTHER ASPECTS, IF YOU COME IN AS A USER, YOU CAN COME IN THE SENSE OF ARRIVAL HERE TO BE MAINTAINED.

YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE JUG HANDLE, SO ANY OF THE OTHER DLIVERIES THAT WOULD BE FOR PRODUCTS THAT ARE SOLD WITHIN THE CONVENIENCE STORE WOULD NOT NATURALLY, INTO THE SITE, BECAUSE WE ARE RETAINING THAT AS A ENTRANCEWAY. IT WOULD BE ENTERING IN OFFICE STATE ROAD 13 TO MAKE YOUR DELIVERIES INTO THE SITE. THIS IS THAT PLAN PUT BACK TOGETHER AFTER WE PEELED IT AWAY, JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK SNAPSHOT.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU IS THIS. THIS IS THE RETAINED TREE CANOPY IS BASED OFF OF A TREE SURVEY MARKED UP, SO THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO OUR CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN THAT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE TREES ARE RETAINED WITHIN AREAS AND HOW WE HAVE ACCESS POINT.

A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE IN OUR CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN, AND THIS GIVES YOU THE EXTENT OF THE TREES THAT WOULD BE RETAINED. THE EXISTING TREE CANOPY, RATHER THAN CLEARING THE SITE, THEN PLANTING BACK TO ALLOW FOR THAT TREE GROWTH TO HAPPEN.

AND I WILL QUICKLY GIVE YOU A PICTURE HERE, THIS IS THE COLORED CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THE PERMITTED SITE PLAN ON OUR CONCURRENCY CERTIFICATE. AND THIS WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE PRESERVED, ALLOWING FOR WHAT WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE FOR DRAINAGE, PARKING, AND ACCESS POINTS. WHEN I WANTED TO DO HERE IS JUST HIGHLIGHT, THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF THE MEDIAN THAT WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE PUBLIC ROAD.

SO, WE WOULD HAVE TO ENTER INTO THAT MAKER ACCESS POINT WORKING FOR THE SHOPPING CENTER, THEN FOR THE BACK OF THE HOUSE. IT IS NOT A SIGNIFICANT AS WHAT YOUR PERFORMANCE OPTION WOULD PROVIDE FOR YOU. THIS GIVES US CROSS-SECTIONS TO WALK US THROUGH.F YOU ARE ON OTIS AND LOOKING SOUTH, WHAT THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS DESCRIBED IN OUR TEXT AMENDMENT AND SUPPORTED BY OUR CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN WOULD GIVE YOU. JUST FOR BEARINGS, THIS IS THE WALL THAT IS A STANDARD PART OF THE TYPE OF USE AND BUFFERING SPARK, AND THIS WOULD BE THE POND THAT YOU SAW ON THE SITE PLAN. THERE IS A 35 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE THAT IS RETAINED WITH THE EXISTING TREE CANOPY. WE SAW A LITTLE BIT OF THAT ON THE PLAN. THIS IS A CUT SHEET TO SHOW YOU THAT THIS POND WOULD BE 72 FEET

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TO BE DELIBERATE AND NOT MAKING IT CONVENIENT FOR DELIVERIES, BUT MAKING IT CONVENIENT FOR PEDESTRIANS, CYCLISTS, AND CONSUMERS LIKE US THAT WE DRIVE TO GET VEHICLE SALES, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE HER SIDEWALK COMING IN AND THE DAILY STAFF OF THE EXISTING TREE CANOPY. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO COMPARE. AS WE WERE DRIVING ALONG, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE EXISTING TREE CANOPY IS ALONG STATE ROAD 13. SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AND DO NOT MEET YOUR CURRENT STANDARD OF THE NORTHWEST SECTOR, REGARDING THE WIDTH OF THE SCENIC EDGES. THIS GIVES YOU A RELATION OF THE TREE, OF THE CANOPY FOR THE CONVENIENCE STORE. OUR SITE, THEN ALONG STATE ROAD 13, THE EXISTING TREE CANOPY TO BE RETAINED. BEHIND OUR STORE, THE EXISTING TREE CANOPY TO HAVE THAT IMPRESSION OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE TUCKED WITHIN EXISTING VEGETATION.

ONE OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY, AGAIN, ABOUT LIGHTING, COMPATIBILITY, AND FITTING IN WITH THE COMMUNITY, IS ABOUT LIGHTING ON THE SITE AND HOW THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED AND WHAT OUR PERFORMANCE PLAN WOULD YIELD. TO WALK YOU THROUGH QUICKLY, I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME SNAPSHOTS. YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA, THIS IS THE MCDONALD'S IS YOUR HEADED NORTH ON STATE ROAD 13, JUST NORTH OF OUR SITE. YOU COME IN.

WHAT YOU SHOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHTING THAT IS PRESENT ON STATE ROAD 13. THE LIMITATION OF THE SCENIC EDGE, WHICH IS NOT AS WIDE AS WILL BE PROVIDED ON THIS SITE. AS WE MOVE CLOCKWISE HERE, YOU SEE THAT THIS IS BACK OF THE HOUSE FOR THE 25 HOUR FITNESS. DO YOU HAVE A WIDE OPEN SPACE, YOU HAVE A WIDE OPEN SPACE OF GRASS, SINGULAR UNSHIELDED LIGHT. YOU HAVE ALONG THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE TWO BOTTOM PICTURES ARE NOW YOU HAVE MOVED INTO THE PUBLIC SHOPPING CENTER, YOU COME AROUND, YOU'VE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF THE DUMPSTER ACTION THAT IS IN THE DOT POND. AGAIN, UNSHIELDED LIGHT AND WIDE OPEN SPACE RENDERS BACK OF THE HOUSE ACTIVITY THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. IT CAN'T BE ACCOMMODATED AT THE FRONT DOOR. SO, WHAT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AT OUR SITE? IN THE DAYTIME, THIS IS WHAT THE SITE LOOKS LIKE AS A FUNCTION.

IT WILL START TO FADE IN TONIGHT. AND UTILIZING OUR PHOTOMETRIC PLAN, WE GUIDED IN COLORS TO SHOW YOU WHERE THE LIGHT WOULD BE CONTAINED WITHIN OUR SITE.

IF YOU ARE IN THE BLUE AREA, IT'S A COOL AREA. THAT'S NOT WHERE YOU'RE LIGHT CANDLES WOULD YIELD. AND THE AREAS THAT WE'VE HAD ON CONSUMERS OR CUSTOMERS COMING INTO THE SITE, THOSE ARE RELATED. YOU HAVE SAFETY, YOU NEED TO SEE TO MOVE AROUND. YOU CAN SEE THE HEAT MAP THEY HAVE UNDERNEATH THE CANOPY.

IMAGINE AGAIN, YOUR REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE LIGHTING, THAT'S WHERE THE FUNCTION WOULD BE HERE. AND AGAIN, TOWARDS STATE ROAD 13 WHERE YOU HAVE THAT

ACTIVITY. >> THIS IS THEIR POLICY, SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT OUR CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN THAT'S DELIVERED THROUGH THIS PRESCRIPTION OR RECIPE FOR DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S PART OF OUR PROPOSAL TO CHANGE OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

IT DOES APPLY TO BOTH PARCELS. WE ARE REDUCING DEVELOPMENT FROM THAT 10,000 SQUARE FEET PER ACRE REQUIREMENT TO ROUGHLY JUST UNDER 6000 SQUARE FEET. FOR THAT LIMITATION OF 45,000.

YOU'RE DEFINING SCENIC AND DEVELOPMENT EDGES, PROVIDING FOR INTERCONNECTIVITY AND LIMITING ACCESS. ONE OTHER COMPONENT, SINCE HER LAST FILING WAS THAT YOU, THE COUNTY HAVE MODIFIED YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO ADOPT A SEPARATION STANDARD FOR UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS. SO, PART OF THE DESIGN, THIS IS THE PINPOINT, WHERE WE HAVE TO MEET TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE 300 FEET RADIUS OF OUR GAS TANKS, THIS AFFECTS WHERE WE DELIBERATELY PUT OUR GAS TANKS ALONG THIS AREA AND ARE CANOPY AGAIN TOWARDS THE ACTIVITY ZONE AND WE COMPLY WITH THAT STANDARD THAT YOU'VE ADOPTED SINCE THE FIRST FILING IN 2016.

>> THIS IS POLICY 125, WHICH GIVES YOU DIRECTION, GIVES YOUR STAFF DIRECTION ABOUT WHAT DO YOU NEED TO LOOK AT WHEN YOU'RE MODIFYING YOUR LAND USE MAP? AGAIN, THE HIGH POINT HERE IS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A CHANGE OF COMMERCIAL TO COMMERCIAL IN THAT TRANSITION.

WE ARE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AREA, WE ARE NOT EXTENDING THE DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY.

WE ARE WITHIN THAT PORTION OF THE NORTHWEST SECTOR. WE HAVE BEEN AN ACTIVE COMMERCIAL SITE UNDER CG ZONING. WE'VE SHOWN AND ESTABLISHED WERE SIMILAR USE ACROSS THE STREET HAS BEEN CG AND RESIDENTIAL VIEW WITHIN THIS COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, AND WE ALSO WALKED YOU THROUGH A SITE PLAN WHERE WE ARE NOT GOING TO OVERBURDEN WHAT WOULD BE PUBLIC EXTENSION OF INFRASTRUCTURE. YOU GOT AVAILABLE CAPACITY BUILT INTO OUR CERTIFICATE FOR 75,000 SQUARE FEET.F YOU'RE WALKING TO SOME OF THE OTHER

POSITIVE MARKET IMPROVEMENTS, THAT COME WITH OUR AMENDMENT. >> THIS IS JUST ABOUT WHERE WE WERE ON THE CHARACTER OF YOUR COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR HERE FOR STATE ROAD 13.

I WOULD LIKE TOCONCLUDE THAT THIS DOES NOT MEET THE DEFINITION , IT IS

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AND THE AREA. AND IN CONCLUSION, WE HAVE LESS DEVELOPMENT INTENSITY.

RESTRICTING USES, WE HAVE LESS TRAFFIC THAN WHAT'S PERMITTED ON OUR CURRENT CONCURRENCY CERTIFICATE 13. PROVIDING FOR INTERCONNECTIVITY, DEFINING THOSE BUFFERS FOR PROVIDING FOR SENSITIVE SITE DESIGN AND TREE PRESERVATION AND THAT'S ALL PRESCRIBED WITHIN THE TEXT AMENDMENT THAT'S ATTACHED WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT.

ITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, GENTLEMEN. I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT TO GET MORE INFORMATION THERE.

>> I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, MR.

CHAIRMAN. >> WE NOW OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

11. >> AND AS I STATED, HE'S JUST GOING TO INTRODUCE THE COMMENTERS AND AS REQUESTED, TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP AND SUMMARIZE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION.

>> NOT REALLY TO INTRODUCE THE COMMENT, THE COMMISSION TO FOLLOW THEIR GENERAL PROTOCOL AND THAT. JEREMIAH MULLIGAN , LAW GROUP, 24 CATHEDRAL PLACEIN SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. I'M HERE, REPRESENTING THE ASSOCIATIONS LOCATED DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR . REALLY ONLY WANTED TO DO WAS MAKE SURE BEFORE THE FOLKS CAME UP AND STARTED PROVIDING EVIDENCE, THAT WE PUT IN A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR, YOU KNOW, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

THERE IS A LOT OF SITE-SPECIFIC INFORMATION THAT WAS JUST ADDRESSED.THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WAS DIRECTED AT THE SINGLE-USE, THAT THEY ARE SAYING THEY WANT TO PUT ON HERE, THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR. THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR YOUR PERMISSION TO PUT ON THE GAS STATION, THEY ARE ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO CHANGE THE LAND USE OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND THEY ARE ASKING BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE INTENSE. THEY WANT TO GO FROM ONE LEVEL OF COMMERCIAL TO THE NEXT.

IT'S NOT COMMERCIAL TO COMMERCIAL, IT'S NOT THE SAME THING, OR THEY WOULDN'T BE HERE. THEY ARE HERE ASKING FORMORE INTENSE USE.

AND IN DOING SO, THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THEY HAVE , THEY HAVE A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO ADDRESS. THEY PRESENTED SOME SITE-SPECIFIC POLICIES WITHIN THEIR, WITHIN THEIR REQUEST, WHICHQUITE FRANKLY ARE SOMEWHAT DISINGENUOUS , AND THAT THEY ARE AGREEING TO NOT HAVE A MARINA AND THEY ARE AGREEING NOT TO HAVE A DRIVING RANGE AND THEY ARE AGREEING TO HAVE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT AREN'T PRACTICAL AND WOULDN'T ACTUALLY GO THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT, ABOUT THIS GAS STATION. THERE ARE OTHER USES THAT THE COMMISSION DOES APPROVE THIS.

THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE. AND THE COMMUNITY HAS COME OUT TIME AND TIME AGAIN AGAINST THIS. THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION FOR THIS WAS DECEMBER 3, 2015.

IT WENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY IN APRIL 2016. THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY AT THAT POINT RECOMMENDED THE DENIAL 4 TO 1. AFTER THAT RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, THE APPLICANT WENT FROM THE APPLICANT HE WAS UNDER CONTRACT FOR THE PROPERTY TO THE ACTUAL OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, THEY WENT THROUGH THE SALES AND PURCHASE IN JULY 2016. AND IN AUGUST 2016, THEY WHIPPED THROUGH THAT APPLICATION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED SINCE THEN, BUT NOW HERE WE ARE AGAIN WITH A VERY SIMILAR APPLICATION. THE OWNER KNEW THE ENTIRE TIME AT THE PLANNING ZONING AGENCY DIDN'T WANT THIS. THEY KNEW THE ENTIRE TIME THAT THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T WANT THIS. AND THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS ALREADY.

SO, NOW THEY ARE ASKING YOU AS THE POLICYMAKER FOR THIS COMMUNITY ANDPOLICYMAKERS FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY , TO CHANGE THE POLICY, AND TO SAY THAT THIS IS SOMEHOW NOW COMPATIBLE.

AND I THINK WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO HEAR FROM ALL THESE FOLKS IN RED IS THAT THEY DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S COMPATIBLE, THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT AT THE END OF THE STREET, AND THAT IT'S NOT A USETHAT'S COMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE, SOB .

>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE'VE GOT TWO MICROPHONES ON EACH SIDE. YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO PLEASE COME FORWARD.

X COME ON UP. WE HAVE THE FEELING WE WILL BE HERE FOR A WHILE, HAVING SOME

CONVERSATION. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS HARRY FAIRFIELD. ON FATHER'S DAY, 2011, MY WIFE AND I PUT AN OFFER IN ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY AT 1466 OTOS PLACE, AND I AM VERY HAPPY TO SAY , THE OFFER WAS ACCEPTED.

I DID MY HOMEWORK AS A CERTIFIED REAL ESTATE APPRAISER.

I TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE NURSERY AT THE OPENING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WHEN I SAW WHAT THE ZONING WAS, I SAID, THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT. THAT'S GOING TO ADD AN AMENITY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

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THINGS THAT AFFECT VALUE, STORAGE TANKS, SMOKE, FUMES, OFFENSIVE OR NOXIOUS ODORS, NOISE, POLLUTANTS, HEAVY TRAFFIC, INTRUSIVE LIGHTING. HEN I TOOK A LOOK AT PAGE 7 OF THE 2025 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. COMPATIBILITY REFERS TO THE SENSITIVITY OF DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS IN MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AND ENVIRONMENTS.

THE COMPATIBILITY OF LAND ISSUES IS DEPENDENT ON NUMEROUS CHARACTERISTICS SUCH AS THE IMPACT ADJACENT OR SURROUNDING USES. THESE INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO TYPES OF USE, DENSITY, INTENSITY, HEIGHT, GENERAL APPEARANCE, AESTHETICS, NOODORS, NOISE, SMOKE, DUST, VIBRATION, TRAFFIC GENERATION, CITATION ÃOR SANITATION , DRAINAGE, FIRE RISKS, AIR QUALITY, LITTER, SURFACE WATER, THEY ARE THE SAME.

THE REASON THAT YOU GUYS WON'T LET THIS HAPPEN IS BECAUSE IT AFFECTS VALUE.

SO, THE QUESTION IS NOT, IS IT ABOUT IDEA? THE QUESTION IS HOW BAD AN IDEA? SO, I THOUGHT, HOW COULD I QUANTIFY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN HERE. HOW MUCH WOULD SOMEBODY HAVE TO DISCOUNT THEIR HOUSE WITH A GAS STATION SERVICE AND 24 CARS IN THEIR BACKYARD. STRANGELY ENOUGH, I FOUND A SITUATION WHERE THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ON 210.

THERE IS A SHOPPING CENTER ANCHORED BY WINN-DIXIE THAT'S ROUGHLY A FOURTH OF A MILE LONG. ON ONE END IS A BANK THAT'S ONLY OPEN A FEW HOURS A DAY, NEVER ON WEEKENDS, NEVER AT NIGHT. AND NEVER AT ALL DURING HOLIDAYS. ON THE OTHER HAND, HARD UP AGAINST SOME POOR GUY'S HOUSE IS A GAS STATION. THAT HOUSE IS NO LONGER ELIGIBLE FOR FHA OR FINANCING, BECAUSE THERE IS TENS OF THOUSANDS OF GALLONS OF FLAMMABLE FUEL WITHIN 100 FEET OF HIS HOUSE. DID I JUST FINISHED? OKAY.

UM, HIS FAMILY IS ENDANGERED. >> YOUR TIME ÃSIR, YOUR TIME IS UP, THANK YOU.

>> YES, GOOD EVENING. PATEL. 1133 RIVER BIRCH ROAD.

THE SCENIC AND HISTORIC HIGHWAY MANAGEMENT GROUP. I THINK AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED, AS FAR AS THE WILLIAM GROUP IS CONCERNED WITH THE ADDITIONAL FLOW OF TRAFFIC ON STATE ROAD 13. THE DANGEROUS OF THAT POTENTIALLY REPRESENTS TO THE CITIZENS OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. AND IN ADDITION, WELL, AS FAR AS ST. JOHN'S COUNTY IS CONCERNED, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT NOT ONLY AFFECTS TRAFFIC, BUT IT'S ENVIRONMENTALLY UNSAFE FOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE FIRE HAZARD POTENTIALLY RESULTS THE HEALTH OF THE STATE'S RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IMMEDIATELY IN BACK OF THIS PROPOSED GAS STATION. AND AT LEAST ON THE LEFT TURN, IT'S HAZARDOUS AT BEST. THERE'S ALSO BEEN A FATALITY THERE IN 2019.

WITH THE ADDITIONAL TURN OF TRAFFIC OUT OF THE GAS STATION, IT WILL PERHAPS COMPOUND THAT.

AND SIMPLY NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY STRESSES THE CONCEPT OF

COMPATIBILITY. >> WE HAVE GOAL NUMBER 82. IT SAYS THAT SPECIFICALLY CALLS FOR COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN NEW AND EXISTING DEVELOPMENT. THIS GAS STATION IS NOT COMPATIBLE. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OBJECTIVE SPECIFICALLY STATES A 1.3. THEY ARE COMPATIBLE AND COMPLEMENTARY.

AGAIN, THIS PROPOSED GAS STATION IS NEITHER..295, PROVIDE FOR THE JUSTIFICATIONS FOR THE NEED OF A PROPOSED AMENDMENT.AND ANALYSIS. WE ALL KNOW THERE IS WELL OVER 30,000 MORE NEW HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY COMMISSION THAT WILL BE BUILT EVENTUALLY. WE ARE ALREADY WELL OVER CAPACITY IN THAT SEGMENT OF STATE ROAD 13. NOW, ALSO, THE APPLICANT MUST DEMONSTRATE THAT THE AMENDMENT

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I SUGGEST THERE IS NO PUBLIC BENEFIT TO THAT GAS STATION AT THAT LOCATION.

AND AS WE'VE ALREADY SEEN, THE COUNTY'S PLANNING STAFF ALSO STATES IN THEIR PACKAGE, IT'S UNCLEAR HOW A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH A GAS PUMP ACHIEVES THE POLICY OF AID.2, 82 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.STAFFERS STATED CONCERNS WITH THE ADDED INTENSITY IN THIS SECTION.

SUFFERERS, YOUR OPINION IS TO DEVELOP THIS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL CONVENIENCE STORES WITHOUT GAS PUMPS. AND THE STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDED ACTION THAT PROBABLY SHOULD DEVELOP AS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. BUT THEY INSIST ON ROLLING THE

NEIGHBORHOOD. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

>> UNDERSTOOD. AND YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING STAFF DOES REPRESENT THE COUNTY

AND THE COUNTY COMMISSION. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONER. I RETIRED AT 529 WHITE ASTLE WAY, TO 10.

17 YEARS AGO, RETIRED FROM THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE TO MAKE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY MY HOME.

I WENT THROUGH A LOT OF CHALLENGES TO GET A HOME BUILT AND TO PROVIDE FOR MY FAMILY.

THE HOUSE THAT WE HAD BUILT ON 210, WE HAVE ENCOUNTERED ALL TYPES OF ISSUES.

SAFETY, SECURITY CONCERNS, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON.

OUR HOUSE SITS ADJACENT TO THAT STORE, RIGHT ON THE BACK FENCE. BUT UP AGAINST THE FENCE FROM THAT WALL. AND I WILL TELL YOU, IT IS A NIGHTMARE.

THE SECURITY OF MY FAMILY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. AND WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW, 2 TO 3 TIMES HAS STORAGE BEEN ROBBED AND MY FAMILY IS STILL IN THAT HOUSE ALL THE TIME WITH ELDERLY PEOPLE. AND I TELL YOU, IT'S A TOUGH SITUATION.

TO HEAR THE COMPLAINTS, NO, THIS WON'T HAPPEN, I'M LIVING IT.

I'M LEAVING. THE RATS, THE RODENTS, ALL TYPES OF WHATEVER.

THAT APPROACH MY PROPERTY, ALONG WITH THE TRASH, THE TRAFFIC, THE LOUD NOISE, YOU NAME IT. IT'S ALL THERE. I CAN'T SELL MY HOME.

I DON'T WANT TO MOVE AGAIN. AFTER 23 YEARS IN THE MILITARY, I'M TIRED OF MOVING.

WE DECIDED TO MAKE ST. JOHN'S OUR HOME. NOW, WE HAVE TO PROCESS, WE NEED TO GET AWAY. BECAUSE THIS IS NOT WHAT WE PLANNED.

IT'S REALLY TOUGH. AND TO SIT THERE WITH MUSIC ANYTIME OF THE NIGHT REALLOUD, VERY LOUD, THE COMPLAINTS THAT YOU PUT INTO THE STORE , NOTHING WORKS.

YOU KNOW? A LOT OF THINGS JUST ARE NOT IN YOUR FAVOR.

I CAN TELL YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH, I'M LIVING IT.

I'M NOT LIVING THE DREAM, BUT I'M LEAVING THAT. IT'S NOT A GOOD PLACE TO BE.

I COULD BE A LOT OF OTHER PLACES, BUT I CHOSE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. [APPLAUSE]

>> YES, MA'AM? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS JOANNE, I LIVE AT 1475 TAMARIND PLACE IN FUKUOKA ESTATES.I'M WITH ONE OF THOSE HOMES THAT IS IN 300 FEET OF THE PROPOSED GAS STATION. MY FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS HAVE TALKED ABOUT COMPATIBILITY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COMPATIBILITY WITH SOME OTHER ISSUES.

FIRST IS THE GAS STATION AND ITS FUMES 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

I'M A CANCER SURVIVOR AND I DON'T NEED TO TAKE THAT RISK AGAIN.

ALONG CANCER SURVIVOR. ALSO, THE GAS STATION IS A FIRE RISK.

ALL WE NEED IS A SPARK AND A LITTLE WIND FROM THE EAST AND LITERALLY, WE WILL BE TOAST.

PARDON THE PUN. THE OTHER THING IS, WE LIVE ON WELL WATER.

THAT WELL WATER IS GOING TO BE CONTAMINATED. IT'S GOING TO DRAIN AND THEY SAY THE TANKS DON'T LEAK, THEY DO LEAK. A FORMER NEIGHBOR OF OURS MOVED RECENTLY, HE WORKED FOR THE COMPANY THAT MANUFACTURED THOSE TANKS.

AND HE TOLD US, DON'T LET ANYBODY KID YOU, THOSE TANKS WILL LEAK OVER TIME.

SO, ARE WELL WATER WILL BE CONTAMINATED, OUR IRRIGATION WATER WILL BE CONTAMINATED, OUR

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WE ARE GOING TO BE LIKE THIS GENTLEMAN WHO LIVES OFF OF 210. WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO SELL OUR HOMES. THERE IS SOME SCIENTIFIC DATA THAT WE HAVE COLLECTED THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU. SCIENTIFIC DATA AND EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT GAS STATIONS ARE DANGEROUS WHEN LOCATED NEAR PROXIMITY OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

POLLUTANTS CAN TRAVEL AND THIS EVIDENCE COMES FROM FEDERAL, STATE, INDEPENDENT AGENCIES, AND INSTITUTIONS. THERE IS A DIRECT LINK BETWEEN CANCERS AND OTHER MALADIES WHEN THEY ARE IN PROXIMITY TO A GAS STATION, DUE TO GAS FUMES AND CAR EXHAUST.

IF THERE IS A GAS STATION WITHIN 300 FEET, PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE BREATHING CAR EXHAUST AND GAS FUMES ANYTIME THEY ARE OUTSIDE. AND YES, WE CAN LIVE INSIDE, BUT AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR, I LIKE TO OPEN MY WINDOWS AND HAVE SOME FRESH AIR, AND.

AND I DON'T WANT TO BE POLLUTED. STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT THERE IS A GREATER RISK OF CHILDHOOD LEUKEMIA WHEN HOMES ARE LOCATED NEAR A GAS STATION.

THESE STUDIES ARE AVAILABLE. THERE'S A COUPLE MORE FACTS, THERE ARE OVER 200 GAS PUMPS WITHIN A HUNDRED MILE RADIUS OF FRUIT OF THE STATES. AND DAILIES JUST RECEIVED A PERMIT TO BUILD ANOTHER ONE RIGHT OVER THE CREEK BRIDGE, WHERE THE PARKING RIDE USED TO BE, SO I HOPE AS COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU HEAR US AND NOT JUST LISTEN TO US, AND KEEP IN MIND THAT PEOPLE'S LIVES DO MATTER, THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> MY NAME IS GAIL PHILLIPS, I AM A RESIDENT, I LIVE AT 1470 OTOS PLACE IN ST. JOHN'S, 32259. THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE TO MY EMAILS.

I SENT EMAILS OUT TO MOST OF YOU. WE WERE DELIGHTED THAT THE ZONING WERE DENYING TO THIS REQUEST. PLEASE VOTE NO TO THIS PROPOSAL. THE 24 HOUR, 12 PUMP THAT THE STATION BELONGS ADJACENT TO AN INTERSTATE, NOT RESIDENTIAL HOMES. THEY CHANGE THE NUMBER OF PUMPS FROM 24 TO 12 IN THE LAST PRESENTATION TO THE ZONING BOARD, BUT THEY ALSO USE THE TERM SELF RESTRICTED. ONCE THEY GET A ZONING PASS, THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.

THE GAS STATION ÃTHERE IS A THING THEY ARE SHOWING THE DIFFERENT GAS STATIONS WITHIN THE AREA. AND TOTAL PUMPS EXISTING WITHIN 2 AHALF MILES OF THIS PROPOSED SITE IS 84. WITHIN 5.7 , 116, AND 24 MORE PUMPS.

THAT'S 140.HAT IS ONE GAS PUMP APPROXIMATELY EVERY 215 FEET.

NONE OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

ALL ARE EITHER SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES OR SUBSTANTIAL GREEN AREAS.

AND THIS IS NOT EVEN ADDING 12 TO 24 PUMPS OR HOWEVER MANY THEY CHOOSE TO PUT IN THIS LOCATION. THERE IS A PAIR OF STRETCHES FROM STATE ROAD 13 TO THE CREEK PLANTATION ENTRANCE. THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTOR TO TRAFFIC DIFFICULTY AND LACK OF SAFETY IS THE NUMBER OF ENTRANCES AND EXITS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY AND THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES GOING IN AND OUT. THE GAS STATION WILL ADD TO THE ALREADY DANGEROUS TRAFFIC SITUATION AT OTOS PLACE AND STATE ROAD 13. FIRST COAST ENERGY SAYS IT STATES THAT ONE AFFECTED TRAFFIC. 12 OR 24 PUMPS IN AND OUT ALL DAY LONG, 24 HOURS, WHO ARE THEY KIDDING? WE ARE A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY OF ONE HALF ACRE LOTS. WE WATCHED KIDS GROWING UP WHO NOW ATTEND CREEKSIDE HIGH SCHOOL. IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS BEING RENEWED WITH NEW YOUNG FAMILIES, KINDERGARTEN AND UNDER AND SOME NEW MIDDLE SCHOOLERS. PEOPLE HAVE CHOSEN TO MOVE HERE BECAUSE OF LARGE YARDS AND THE FAMILY FROM THE NEIGHBORS. WE HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN NEW COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES WOULD EVENTUALLY LOCATED ALONG STATE ROAD 13. HOWEVER, WE EXPECTED THE CURRENT ZONING WILL PROTECT US FROM INCOMPATIBLE BUSINESSES. WE NEVER EXPECTED A 24 HOUR MAKE A GAS STATION. PLEASE VOTE NO TO THIS PROPOSED CHANGE.

THANK YOU.[APPLAUSE] >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

I'M PHILLIPS. AND I LIVE AT 1133 LIZ BURCH ROAD IN ST. JOHN'S.

I AM THE PAST PRESIDENT OF THE NORTHWEST ST. JOHN'S COMMUNITY COALITION AND I AM AN OFFICER

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AND I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU SOME INFORMATION BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION.

THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS OF THE FIRES THAT HAPPENED AT THE GAS STATION.

THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS PUT OUT BY FIRES AT U.S. SERVICE STATIONS.

BY EFFORTS IN APRIL 2011. AND IT WAS BY THE NATIONAL FIR PROTECTION ASSOCIATION .

ONE OF THE FIRES WAS IN ARLINGTON. AND IT WAS OFF ARLINGTON EXPRESSWAY. IT WAS A SUNCOAST GAS STATION AND IT WAS AROUND 6 AM IN THE MORNING. THERE WAS 50 FIREFIGHTERS THERE AND THE FIRE WAS SO HOT THAT THEIR HELMETS LITERALLY MELTED IN FIGHTING THIS FIRE. NOW, YOU TELL ME IF A FIRE COMES ATTHAT GAS STATION , WHAT DEVASTATING EFFECT IT WOULD HAVE ON THE PEOPLE AROUND IT.

THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE. IN FACT, THE NEWS STATION, ACTION NEWS STATION WAS GOING TO LAND THEIR HELICOPTER WHEN THEY SPOTTED ANOTHER FIRE OVER HERE AT THE POWERS AVENUE.

THAT WAS ALSO A DEVASTATING FIRE. AND THEN RECENTLY, THIS YEAR, A FIRE BROKE OUT IN A CONVERTIBLE. RIGHT OFF THE ARLINGTON AREA THERE. HOW DO THESE FIRES START? THEY START FROM PEOPLE.

THEY START FROM CARELESSNESS. THEY START FROM JUST EVERY DAY, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SO INVOLVED IN THEIR LIVES THAT THEY DON'T THINK. THIS IS A GAS STATION ATTENDANT, STANDING IN FRONT OF THE PUMPS. ALL OF THE PUMPS, WITH A CIGARETTE IN HIS HAND. AND HOW DOES THE FIRE START? THEY SAY STATIC ELECTRICITY.

JUST THE FACT OF GETTING IN AND OUT OF YOUR AUTOMOBILE CAN CAUSE THIS TO HAPPEN.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT FOR THIS AREA? DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU WOULD ALLOW YOUR CHILDREN IN THE BACKYARDS OF THOSE HOMES TO PLAY WITH THOSE FUMES CONSTANTLY AFFECTING THEM. THE OUTCOME IS DEVASTATING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> HI, I'M MARION EDWARDS. 1497 OTOS PLACE. I AM ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. UM, I WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR PROPERTY, WE LOOKED AT WHAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY COULD BE BEHIND US, BECAUSE WE WERE CONCERNED.

AND WHEN WE SAW WHAT COULD BE THERE, WE WERE SATISFIED THAT THAT WAS A PLACE TO MAKE OUR HOME, ARE FOREVER HOME. NOW, WITH THIS PROPOSED CHANGE, YOU KNOW, YOU WONDER IF YOU ARE EVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO SELL YOUR PROPERTY ONCE YOU'RE SITTING NEXT TO A GAS STATION.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT CONCERN ME IN PARTICULAR. AIR POLLUTION AND VAPOR INTRUSION. THE FENCING IS THE GAS THAT IS EMITTED EVERY TIME YOU FILL UP YOUR GAS. THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT CAN TRAVEL IN THE AIR, PROBABLY UP TO 600 FEET. FENCING HAS BEEN LINKED TO CANCER.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE THAT HAVE CHILDREN, EVEN MY LOVED ONES BEING OUT IN THE YARD. AND HAVING TO BE EXPOSED TO THIS TYPE OF CHEMICAL.

THERE IS A POTENTIAL WATER POLLUTION. I REALIZE, OF COURSE, YOU HEARD EARLIER THAT THE SKILLS THAT HAPPEN ON THIS AREA, ON THIS APRON, THEY WILL WASH THEM DOWN, BUT THEY ARE WASHING THEM INTO A POND THAT IS STORYLINES. TAKE UP POLLUTANT AND TAKE IT DOWN INTO THE GROUND. OUR WELLS DEPEND ON THE WATER THAT'S OUT THERE.

WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE IT CONTAMINATED. ALSO, THE NOISE POLLUTION, I WAS JUST AT THE GAS STATION LAST SATURDAY AND THERE WERE MOTORCYCLES THAT CAME IN THERE, THERE WAS DIESEL TRUCKS THAT CAME IN THERE, THEY WERE JUST REGULAR CARS IN THERE.

THE NOISE WAS UNBELIEVABLE. NOT TO MENTION, THE AMOUNT OF RADIOS THAT I WAS HEARING, AND IT WAS VERY VERY LOUD. I DON'T NEED THAT IN MY BACKYARD.

I DON'T NEED THAT AT 2 AM IN THE MORNING WHEN I AM TRYING TO SLEEP WITH MY WINDOW OPEN.

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ALSO, THE HEAVY VEHICLE TRAFFIC. I KNOW THAT THEY TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF NEW TRIPS BUT THIS WOULD GENERATE, BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE NEW TRIPS.

28,000 CARS GO UP AND DOWN STATE ROAD 13. HOW MANY OF THOSE CARS ARE GOING IN AND OUT OF THIS GAS STATION? HOW MANY OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTING OTOS PLACE? I KNOW THAT MOST OF WHAT YOU LOOK AT IS ON STATE ROAD 13, BUT IT'S OTOS PLACE, THE ONLY EXIT THAT WE HAVE FROM OUR COMMUNITY.IF WE HAVE TO FIGHT THIS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, CAN YOU IMAGINE TRYING TO GET OUT? CAN YOU IMAGINE YOUR TEENAGE SON OR DAUGHTER TRYING TO DRIVE IN THAT TRAFFIC? SO, I ASK YOU, WHEN YOU GET READY TO VOTE, PLEASE VOTE AS IF THIS GAS STATION ARE IN YOUR BACKYARD.

[APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

AT LEAST I THINK IT'S STILL AFTERNOON. THERE IS A REASON WHY YOU ARE

ALL STILL SITTING HERE LISTENING TO US. >> CAN YOU PULL YOUR MIC DOWN

AND NAME AND ADDRESS? >> WE THE PEOPLE ELECTED YOU. >> NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

>> SUE HILLIARD, 1458, NEW-PAR'S PLACE. IMAGINE THAT FOR CLUB ESTATES IS WHERE YOUR CHILDREN'S HOMES ARE, WHERE YOUR GRANDCHILDREN'S ELDERLY PARENTS HOMES ARE.

WOULD YOU WANT THEM TO LIVE IN AN UNSAFE AND UNHEALTHY ENVIRONMENT.

I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU WOULD NOT AND WOULD DO ANYTHING TO PROTECT THEM.

WE ARE ASKING ALL OF YOU TO PROTECT US. PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THE 12 OR 24 PUMP GAS STATION TO COME INTO OUR BACKYARDS AND CONTAMINATE OUR DRINKING AND BATHING WATER. PLEASE PROTECT ALL OF US. THE ADULTS, THE CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, AND THE ELDERLY FROM LIVING IN AN UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT AND AN INEVITABLE CONTAMINATION AND DANGEROUS SITUATION THAT IS VERY LIKELY TO OCCUR WITH THIS NON-FAMILY-FRIENDLY PROPOSAL. I THINK FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN BIG BUSINESSES GETTING BIGGER. AND THE HOMEOWNERS SELECTED YO , EXPENSE AND HEALTH AND WELL-BEING. PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY. MR. JONES, IN THE NOVEMBER 2019 ISSUE OF THE CREEK LINE, YOU STATED IN AN INTERVIEW, I SUPPORT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT ONLY IF THE COMMUNITY EMBRACES IT. THERE IS A ROOM FULL OF YEAR CONSTITUENTS, I CAN NEVER SAY THAT WORD, YOUR COMMUNITY HERE RIGHT NOW, TELLING YOU THAT THEY DO NOT EMBRACE THIS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT, SO I AM HOPING THAT YOU ARE A MAN OF YOUR WORD, AND THEREFORE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS PROPOSAL IN YOUR COMMUNITIES BACKYARDS.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TIME TO SPEAK. [APPLAUSE]

>> AFTERNOON. >> MY NAME IS REBECCA AND I AM HERE WITH MY HUSBAND, RICK, AND WE ARE THE OWNERS OF THE HOME LOCATED AT 1457 OTOS PLACE. IT'S WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN WHO ARE ALL ATTENDING ST. JOHN'S COUNTY SCHOOLS. OUR OLDEST CHILD IS COMPLETELY BLIND WITH NO LIGHT PERCEPTION.

HE HAS TO TRAVEL TO THE BUS STOP, WHICH IS GOING DOWN THE OTOS PLACE RIGHT PAST THESE DRIVEWAYS THAT THEY ARE SHOWING ON THE PROPOSED AND THE PERMITTED PLANS.

HE WILL HAVE TO WALK PAST ALL OF THESE STREETS WITH ALL OF THESE CARS COMING IN AND OUT, JUST TO MAKE IT TO HIS BUS STOP. HIS YOUNGER SIBLINGS WILL BE AN YOUNGER GRADES AND HE WILL BE TRAVELING THERE BY HIMSELF. SO, WE ARE ASKING YOU TO PLEASE HELP US. OUR ORIENTATION AND MOBILITY SPECIALIST HELPED US PICK THIS HOME, BECAUSE IT WAS A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DID NOT HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND MY SON COULD ACTUALLY HEAR WHAT WAS GOING ON, SO HE COULD NAVIGATE INDEPENDENTLY WITH HIS WHITE CANE. SO, WE ARE ASKING YOU TO PLEASE NOT APPROVE THIS, SO WE CAN STAY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. OUR CHILDREN CAN CONTINUE TO RIDEBICYCLES AND HAVE A GOOD TIME , BEFORETHEIR PARENTS GET HOME FROM WORK , SO THEY ARE SAFE.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

COURTNEY, 612 IRENE COURT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS ISSUE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO MY FAMILY AND I. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE TWO CHILDREN, FOUR AND SIX. AND WE LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO MUCH.

IT'S SUCH A GREAT COMMUNITY FOR KIDS TO PLAY. AND THERE ARE NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS STUDIES THAT SPEAK TO THE HEALTH EFFECTS OF GAS STATIONS.

THE HEALTH EFFECTS WHEN CHILDREN AND ADULTS THAT GAS STATIONS CAN CAUSE.

TO THAT POINT, THE EPA CREATED SCHOOL GUIDELINES TO CALL OUT SPECIFICALLY GAS STATIONS WHEN SELECTING SITES FOR NEW SCHOOLS. BECAUSE OF THE AIR POLLUTION, SOIL CONTAMINATION, GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATION. VAPOR INTRUSION AND STRUCTURES

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A GAS STATION IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AS THE ZONING BOARD HAS DETERMINED AND VOTED ON ALREADY. OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE RECOGNIZED ISSUES AND CREATED THE GAS STATIONS HAVE CAUSED AND ENACTED LOCAL LAWS TO SAFEGUARD THEIR COMMUNITIES.

AND I HOPE YOU WILL DO THE SAME BY VOTING. THANK YOU.[APPLAUSE]

>> IF Y'ALL COULD,Y'ALL COULD COME ON UP . WE WILL TRY TO GET THROUGH YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON. >> MY NAME IS ROBIN CLARK, 609 IRENE COURT.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE REGARDING GAS LEAKS AND THEIR IMPACT ON SURROUNDING AREAS. I WILL START WITH A 2014 STUDY SUGGESTING THAT DROPS IN A FUEL SPILL I GAS STATIONS, WHICH WILL NOW FREQUENTLY INCUR BY CONSUMERS COULD CUMULATIVELY BE CAUSING LONG-TERM ENVIRONMENTA DAMAGE TO SOIL AND GROUNDWATER .

OVER THE LIFESPAN OF A CON GAS STATION, PUMPS CAN ACCUMULATE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF GASOLINE, EVENTUALLY PENETRATING THE CONCRETE . THIS POTENTIALLY WILL CONTAMINATE WELL WATER. THUS SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTING THE HEALTH OF THOSE WHO USE THE WELL WATER.OUR BEST SOURCE OF WATER. GIVEN THAT GASOLINE CONTAINS HARMFUL CHEMICALS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED ALREADY. NOW, AT THE ZONING MEETING A FEW WEEKS BACK, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE ON BEHALF OF THIS SAME FUEL SPILLAGE.

HE VERY SPECIFICALLY STATED THAT HUMAN ERROR ÃDURING THE TRANSFER OF FUEL FROM THE FUEL TANKER TRUCKS TO THE UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS. THIS STUDY I AM REFERENCING RIGHT NOW CONTINUES TO DECLARE THAT RAIN WATER FLOWING OF THEIR CONCRETE UNDERNEATH THE PUMPS WOULD NO DOUBT CONTAMINATE THE WATER RUN OFF WITH A VARIETY OF HARMFUL CHEMICALS. NOW, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS, I'M NOT SURE IF HE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THIS TODAY, BUT LAST TIME, HE SHARED A VERY RECENT VIDEO OF THESTORM RUNOFF RESULTING FROM JUST A 15 MINUTE STORM, STARTING AT THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THIS GAS STATION , MAKING A VERY SWIFT LINE INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AS A RESULT, AN UNAVOIDABLE HUMAN ERROR OF SPILLAGE, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE AMOUNT OF GASOLINE THAT WILL BE ROUTINELY DUMPED INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ALL THE RAIN IN OUR AREA. AS WELL AS INTO THE NEW RETENTION PONDS THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPED. THAT, TOO, WILL INFILTRATE INTO THE SOIL. NOW, AS FAR AS HOW THIS WOULD IMPACT WITH THE 2025 LAND USE DEVELOPMENT CODE, I HAVE A LITTLE SPIEL THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, BUT I THINK IT'S ALL BEEN DISCUSSED ON HOW THIS IS NOT COMPATIBLE IN MANY WAYS. I COULD GO WITH THE DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS, THE ODOR, THE DRAINAGE, VEGETATION, TOPOGRAPHY, IT'S SIMPLY NOT COMPATIBLE. THIS WAS NOT DESIGNED AND DEVELOPED A WHILE BACK, AND IT'S JUST NOT COMPATIBLE. I'M NOT GOING TO GOING TO THAT. ON ANOTHER NOTE, I WOULD LIKE TO QUICKLY REFERENCE A LAWSUIT THAT WAS FILED BY FIRST COAST ENERGY OVERFILLED STORAGE TANK THAT THEY HAD PURCHASED AND INSTALLED BACK IN 2013. ESSENTIALLY, FIRST COAST ENERGY HAD BOUGHT 115 STORAGE TANKS FROM A SUPPLIER. 13 OF WHICH WERE FOUND TO BE DEFECTIVE. THE LAWSUIT CLAIMS IN EXCESS OF OVER $5 MILLION IN PROPERTY DAMAGE CREATED BY THOSE TANKS AT THE INSTALL. MY FEAR IS THE MAGNITUDE OF THAT TYPE OF POTENTIAL DAMAGE TO THE VERY BACKYARD WITH THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

SO, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS LOCATION SIMPLY CANNOT BE DESIGNATED AS IDEAL.

UNDERSTANDING FULL WELL THAT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY AND HEALTH OF THE LOCAL CITIZENS WOULD BE PLACED IN JEOPARDY FOR PURE PROFIT TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS, NO LESS.

PLEASE, PLEASE VOTE NO. [APPLAUSE] >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> AND MR. CHAIR, IF THERE ARE ANY SUBSEQUENT SPEAKERS, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO

HAVE THEM COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND TO BE READY. >> IF ANYONE ELSE IS GOING TO COME SPEAK, PLEASE COME ON UP TO THE PODIUMS. GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. 613 IRENE COURT. WANTED TO START BY THANKING THE BOARD FOR THEIR TIME TODAY. AS WELL AS FOR THE TIME THAT WAS SPENT READING ALL THE EMAILS AND ANSWERING THOSE EMAILS. WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

I WILL ALSO LIKE TO THINK THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE TURNED OUT TODAY AND THEIR BULLDOG OUTFITS TO ATTEND THIS MEETING. BUT NOT ONLY THAT, TAKING TIME OFF WORK FOR THE COMMUNITY MEETING IN 2016, THE FIRST PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY MEETING.

THE SECOND PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY MEETING THAT WAS CONTINUED, THE THIRD ONE IN OCTOBER, AND FINALLY, THE 40 FLORIDA COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING TODAY.

THE TRAIL FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS WELL AS THE EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS THAT

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THE DECISION TODAYIS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT , BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DIFFICULT.

IT'S BEEN DECIDED TWO TIMES, TWO SEPARATE PLANNINGAND ZONING AGENCIES , THREE YEARS APART.

BOTH AGENCIES CONCLUDED IT SHOULD BE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, LESSENING THE INTENSITY OF USES OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS. THERE WAS EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE INGRESS AND EGRESS ISSUES AT OTOS PLACE. AND I BELIEVE HIS NAME IS MR. MEADOW, SPOKE TO THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE. HE RECOGNIZED THE SEVERE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS THAT WOULD CREATE FOR THE ESTATE'S RESIDENCE, AS WELL AS OTHER MOTORISTS THAT TRAVEL ALONG STATE ROAD 13. REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME WHEN HE MENTIONED WHAT HE HAS TO DO WHEN HE LEAVES GATORS DOCKSIDE AFTER DINNER WITH HIS WIFE.

THEY AREGOING TO TURN RIGHT , HEAD BACK NORTH, TURN RIGHT ON RACETRACK, TURN RIGHT INTO THE CREEK, FOLLOW IT ALL THE WAY AROUND, AND THEN COME OUT TO THE ENTRANCE ON 13 AMICA LEFT.

THAT'S EXACTLYWHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON A LARGER SCALE . UM, THE ONLY THING THAT'S CONCERNING TO ME IS THE BASIS FOR THIS AMENDMENT IS NOT ONE OF NEED, IT'S THE DESIRE FOR DAILY SPEECH. QUITE FRANKLY, IT HAD BETTER PLANNING AND THIS ONE INCIDENT.

ONE INCIDENTS. AND THEY GOT APPROVAL IN APPROPRIATE AREAS THAT SERVICE BOTH THE NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC. AND THIS SIMPLY IS NOT A NEED FOR ANOTHER GAS STATION. IN MOST APPARENTLY, WINGATE PUT THOSE GAS STATIONS AND, THEY DID IT AND AN APPROPRIATE AREA THAT DID NOT DESTROY THE CHARACTER OF THIS ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL DO THE RIGHT THING AND FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING AGENCY AND DENIED HIS APPLICATION.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS CINDY, UM, AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, IT IS SIMPLY NOT COMPATIBLE.

RESIDENTIAL BE FOR A REASON. TIME AND TIME AGAIN, WE ARE SAYING WE ARE TAKING COMMERCIAL TO COMMERCIAL, BUT WE ARE SIMPLY NOT JUST TAKING COMMERCIAL TO COMMERCIAL.

THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND THIS COMMERCIAL AND THE REST OF THE COMMERCIAL IN THE AREA DOES NOT HAVE HOMES IN SUCH CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A GAS STATION. IT IS NOT COMPARABLE.

THERE IS NO COMMERCIAL TO COMMERCIAL ABOUT IT. IN THE PCA MEETING, PCM MEMBER JEFF MARTIN VOICED HIS CONCERN ABOUT COMPATIBILITY. I QUOTE, "SPECIFICALLY THE USE OF THE GAS STATION WHERE YOU HAVE A HIGHER RETURN RATE IN AND OUT OF THE SITE AT A VERY MINOR INTERSECTION." I'M NOT SURE IT'S COMPATIBLE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD BACK THERE AND THE FOLKS WILL HAVE TO SIT ON THE ROAD TO GET OUT TO STATE ROAD 13.

IN HERE IS VERY MINOR INTERSECTION. THINK EVEN THE USE OF INTERSECTION IS A STRETCH BUT THIS IS AN ENTRANCE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD, A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT HE IS PROPOSING BELONGS AND THAT MAJOR COMMERCIAL CORNER.

WITH TURNING LANES, TRAFFIC LIGHTS, TO REGULATE THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND KEEP PEOPLE SAFE, NOT ON TOP OF SOMEONE'S NEIGHBORHOOD. I ALSO AM GOING TO QUOTE MR. MATT WHO LIVES OUT BY US. HE SAYS THIS IS REALLY PROBLEMATIC.LL THE TRAFFIC THAT WOULD HAPPEN AT A SPECIFIC POINT IN TIME IS TOUGH. I DON'T THINK THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE TRAFFIC, YOU DON'T NEED A TRAFFIC STUDY, YOU JUST NEED TO VISIT THE AREA. IT IS HARD, AT BEST, TO GET OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND LIKE MANY PEOPLE HAVE ARTICULATED, OR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS GOTTEN TOGETHER AND NONE OF US WANT THIS. NO, WE ARE REGULAR PEOPLE.

WE ARE NURSES, ATTORNEYS, BANKERS, SURVEYORS, YOU'RE JUST LIKE YOU.

AND IF YOU HAVE THIS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M SURE YOU WOULD BE STANDING HERE,DOING THE EXACT SAME THING. BUT THAT IS MY EMOTIONAL PLAY TO YOU , PLEAD TO YOU.O HANG YOUR HAT ON THE 2025 LAND USE, I'M SORRY TO BRING THAT UP. BUT IT ALSO BASICALLY STATES THAT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MUST LOOK AT COMPATIBILITY. AND WHETHER THERE IS ÃSORRY.

I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT ANOTHER COPY. IT SHALL NOT APPROVE.

IT IS USED TO DETERMINE A COMPATIBLE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA.

IT GOES ON TO STATE ABOUT NOISE,TRAFFIC , AND ON AND ON. THANK YOU.M, SO IT IS NOT

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NOW, FAST FORWARD TO TODAY. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> MADAM? MADAM, IF WE COULD HAVE YOUR EXHIBIT.

MADAM? >> GOOD AFTERNOON. IF YOU ARE READY.

>> YES, SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHRISTIAN, 1452 CAMERON PLACE.

I'VE LIVED IN THIS DIVISION SINCE 2012 AND WE FELL IN LOVE WITH IT WHEN WE FIRST DROVE IN.

WE LOVED THE PLACE AND THE KIDS LOVE IT. I'VE GOT AN 11-YEAR-OLD AND A SEVEN-YEAR-OLD THEY FREQUENTLY PLAY ON THE STREETS RIGHT BEHIND WHERE THE GAS STATION IS PROPOSED TO GO. I'VE GOT A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION ABOUT HOW THERE ARE PROVEN INCREASES IN CHILDHOOD LEUKEMIA RATES WHEN KIDS LOOK DOWNWIND FROM A GAS STATION, NOT JUST FROM THE VAPERS OR THE GAS THAT'S ON THE ROAD, THEY GET STUCK TO CAR TIRES, GET ON THE ROAD, IT RAINS.ALL THAT WATER IS GOING TO FLOW RIGHT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU WILL SEE THAT IN A MOMENT WITH A VERY BRIEF RAIN. WE HAD A TORRENT OF WATER BASICALLY JUST COME FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SITE INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHERE IT FLOWS INTO OUR RETENTION POND, WHICH IN THE LAST COUPLE OF HURRICANES IS ACTUALLY BACKLOADED INTO DITCHES IN FRONT OF HER HOUSES, SO, GASOLINE, IF THIS IS APPROVED, WOULD BE ON TOP OF THAT WATER. AND THAT WOULD BE IN OUR FRONT YARDS. THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. SO, I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCHING AND THE OCULUS DATABASE, I FOUND SOME OF THE STORAGE TANKS THAT FIRST COAST ENERGY HAS HAD HAVE BEEN LEAKING AND THEY HAVEN'T EVEN KNOWN THAT THEY WERE LEAKING.

SO, THIS IS FROM THEIR SITE. IT STATES THAT THEY WANT TO UPGRADE THE OVERFLOW BUCKET, WHICH IS WHERE THE FUELS PUT IN BY THE TANKER TRUCK, AND THEY FOUND THAT DUE TO UNSEEN CRACKS, THE SOIL SURROUNDING THE BUCKET WAS CONTAMINATED. THEY COULDN'T SEE THE CRACKS, BUT THERE WAS FUEL ALL OVER. THEY HAD TO DIG OUT ALL THE DIRT AND DISPOSE OF IT AND PUT THE NEW TANKIN. THERE'S ANOTHER PROPERTY , JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I STOP CARING ABOUT THE GAS STATION, THIS ONE HAS BEEN ABANDONED SINCE, I BELIEVE, THE 80S. IT'S BEEN DECADES. AND IT'S A KNOWN SITE LEAKING UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK AND ITS SIDE EFFECTS ON THE GROUNDWATER ANDTHIS HAS BEEN PROVEN. IT'S IN THE REPORT THAT WAS DONE .

THROUGH THE UTILITY UPGRADE THERE. IT'S STILL SITTING THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE WAITING ON TAXPAYER MONEY OR WHAT.

TO REMEDIATE IT, BUT THERE IS A MENTION OF IT. IN THE REPORT.

BUT TO SUMMARIZE, LIKE I SAID, I'VE GOT AN 11-YEAR-OLD AND A SEVEN-YEAR-OLD, THEY LOVE PLAYING IN HER NEIGHBORHOOD. I HOPE THAT YOU CAN SEE MY FELLOWRESIDENTS HERE , MORE THAN JUST A BONUS CHECK, THIS IS OUR LIFE AND WE WILL DO ANYTHING WE HAVE TO DO TO PROTECT IT. WE LOVE WHERE WE LIVE, WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE.

YET, I HOPE THAT YOU CAN SEE HER POINT OF VIEW. THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] >> SIR? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, AND RICK PERSONS, LIVE AT 1346 CAMERON PLACE. I HAVE A VIDEO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THAT REFUTES WHAT SHE HAD PRESENTED TO THE MEDIA AND TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING ASSOCIATION BACK ON OCTOBER 3 STATING THAT THE DRAINAGE WOULD BE DIRECTED TOWARDS STATE ROAD 13 RATHER THAN TO OUR COMMUNITY. IF THIS WORKS PROPERLY, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THIS TO WORK. I CAN SHOW YOU AFTER A HARD

RAIN BACK ON OCTOBER 1, >> MR. CHAIR, IN THE MEANTIME, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER SPEAKERS

B&. >> AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS WAS BACK ON OCTOBER 1 WE HAD A HARD RAIN STORM AND BE VIDEOTAPED THIS AND SHOWED HOW THIS IS GOING WEST.

TOWARDS THE RETENTION POND. AND NOW IT'S TURNING BACK AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE WATER

GAINING UP. [MUSIC] >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR THE COMMENTATOR IS SAYING, BUT B& IN A SECOND HERE, YOU WILL SEE HOW THE WATER IS PULLING UP. AND I THINK THE ATTORNEY AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING ASSOCIATION

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AND THE SECOND VIDEO I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ANDB WRONG ONE. AND HOW MUCH STATE ROAD 13 HAS SUCH INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, AND YOU CAN JUST SEE HOW TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE ESTATES ON A DAILY BASIS, ESPECIALLY AT RUSH HOUR, THIS VIDEO IS TAKEN BETWEEN 8:30 AND 9:00 IN THE MORNING.

WE HAVE A SCHOOL BUS THAT PICKED UP AT 8:40 FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT HERE.

RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE ESTATES ENTRANCE. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT, BOTH OUT OF THE ESTATES AND ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THE TWISTED COMPASS IS LOCATED. AND I SEE WHERE MY TIME IS UP. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, BUT YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE THAT THE TRAFFIC IS QUITE SIGNIFICANT AND YOU SEE BY THE SUPPORT OF OUR COMMUNITY HERE WITH ALL THE RED SHIRTS, 75 PERCENT OF OUR COMMUNITY HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT

NOT HAVING A GAS STATION. >> MR. CHAIR, I THINK DTV PROBABLY CAPTURED SOME, BUT MR. PEARSON? IF YOU COULD FORWARD THOSE FILES TO THE COUNTY.

>> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11? SEEN NONE.

MR. CHAIRMAN WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS. >> UNLESS JEREMIAH WANTS TO

COME BACK UP. >> I WANT TO SUMMARIZE BRIEFLY, IF YOU STILL WANT TO.

>> WE CAN DO IT AFTER THE APPLICANT GOES. >> USUALLY THE APPLICANT HAS

THE FINAL REBUTTAL. SO, YOU CAN SUMMARIZE. >> THAT'S FINE.

AND I CAN DO IT RELATIVELY BRIEFLY.OU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT I ANTICIPATED.

THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD OF INTELLIGENT, SOPHISTICATED PEOPLE WHO HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION FACT BASED EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT THE PROPOSAL HERE IS NOT COMPATIBLE. I'M GOING TO REITERATE WHAT I STARTED WITH, WHICH IS THIS ISN'T AN APPLICATION TO BUILD A GAS STATION, THIS IS AN APPLICATION TO CHANGE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, TO ALLOW A MORE STRENUOUS USE ON THIS PROPERTY.

RIGHT? THIS ISN'T JUST CAN WE PUT IN A GAS STATION? THIS IS LET US CHANGE HOW THIS PROPERTY SHOULD BE USED. THIS IS A POLICYMAKING DECISION OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONS.OU KNOW, YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT'S IN THE COMMUNITY'S BEST INTEREST, THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO CHANGE THIS PROPERTY IS USED, TO MAKE IT MORE INTENSE, TO MAKE IT SO THAT A GAS STATION IS ALLOWED OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT ENDS UP GOING THERE, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S NOT RESTRICTED TO A GAS STATION.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE ACTUALSITE-SPECIFIC RESTRICTIONS ARE, TO NOT ALLOW , TO NOT ALLOW A MARINA. THERE ARE SPECIFIC RESTRICTIONS ARE WHAT APPEAR TO BE RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE SITE-SPECIFIC RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT WILL BE FILED, BUT THOSE ACTUALLY AREN'T RESTRICTIONS, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY ALLOWING THE APPLICANT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE DIFFERENT BUFFERS ON THEIR PROPERTY.

THEY ARE NOT ACTUAL RESTRICTIONS. THE RESTRICTIONS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE. THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THOSE MODIFIED ARE ALREADY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, SCENIC EDGES AND YOU LOOK AT THE BUFFERS, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGES THAT ARE LOCATED IN THEIR ART FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY.

THEY ARE NOT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE NORTHWEST SECTOR. AND SO, WHAT YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO DECIDE IS THAT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE A MORE INTENSE USE.

THAT'S WHAT'S BEING ASKED OF YOU. AND CLEARLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREA, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT ALL OF YOU HAVE DRIVEN UP THERE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THIS COMMUNITY ALREADY LOOKS LIKE, DOES THIS AREA NEED TO BE MORE INTENSE?OES THIS NEED TO HAVE A USE THAT IS BEYOND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL?

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X MR. CHAIR, IF I MAYB. [APPLAUSE] >> I MAY HAVE MISHEARD YOU, BUT

DID YOU SAY DOCUMENTS TO BE FILED? >> THE DOCUMENTS TO BE FILED IN

THE BOARD PACKET. SO, >> IS THERE ANYTHING THAT ISNOT

FILE THAT IS GOING TO BE FILED? >> NO, IT'S EXHIBIT C . >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

MATERIALS CURRENTLY FILED? >> YES. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> DO YOU WANT ME TO B& YOU'VE GOT A COPY. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. IN REBUTTAL TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS RAISED, THERE WERE SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT WOULD LIKE TO INVITE SOME OF HER OTHER TEAM MEMBERS TO HELP ADD COLOR AND ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I WOULDLIKE TO FIRST INVITE UP LIKE ROY TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE MARKET QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD, AND HE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY CHRIS TO TALK ABOUT THE FUNCTIONS OF THE FUELING STATIONS AND SOME OF THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL QUESTIONS. FIRST, WE HAVE MICHAEL COME UP.

HE CAN USE THE CENTER CONSOLE, SPEAK INTO THAT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS MICHAEL ROY, I WORK WITH THE FIRM, OUR ADDRESS IS 1912, SUITE 204, JACKSONVILLE. I AM A STATE CERTIFIED GENERAL APPRAISER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AS WELL AS GEORGIA. I HOLD TO THE MAI DESIGNATION AND THE SRA DESIGNATION FOR THE APPRAISAL INSTITUTE. WE WERE ASKED BY FIRST COAST ENERGIES TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF THE POTENTIAL SHOPPING CENTER ON THIS SITE. AS WELL AS THE IMPACT OF THE POTENTIAL CONVENIENCE STORE. AND LOOKING AT THE, IT WAS INTERESTING THAT THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED A SHOPPING CENTER DOWN ONTO 10, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE LOOKED AT AS WELL. AND B& I JUST WNT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN SEE ALL OF IT.

THIS IS THE ST. JOHN'S COMMONS SHOPPING CENTER. IT IS ANCHORED BY A 71,000 SQUARE-FOOT SHOPPING CENTER. WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT FIRST WAS, WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THE SHOPPING CENTER ADJACENT TO SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

THE SALE NUMBER ONE IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE WINN-DIXIE SHOPPING CENTER, THE BACKSIDE OF IT.SALE NUMBER TWO AND THREE ARE LOCATED IN THE SAME SUBDIVISION, BUT ARE OBVIOUSLY FURTHER AWAY FROM IT. NOW, WE COME BACK TO THIS, BUT THERE IS ALSO A DAILIES ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. WHAT WE DID WAS WE LOOKED AT SALE ONE AND SAID, OKAY, THAT IS THE ONE ADJACENT TO THE SHOPPING CENTER. WE THEN COMPARED SALES TWO AND THREE TO THAT ONE TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT WAS OF BEING LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE SHOPPING CENTER. LET ME GET THIS UP A LITTLE BIT.

THIS ONE MAY LOOK FAMILIAR TO SOME OF YOU. THIS IS THE SAME FORMAT THAT FAMILY APPRAISAL UTILIZES.E PUT THE SALES AND THEIR PAIRED SALE NUMBER ONE IS THE FIRST SALE, THAT IS THE ONE ADJACENT TO THE SHOPPING CENTER. SALES TWO AND THREE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE AWAY FROM IT. WE MADE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE DIFFERENT SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS AND SOME OF THE OTHER FEATURES AND OTHER BATHROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE SALE ADJACENT TO THE SHOPPING CENTER SOLD FOR $240,000. THE OTHER TWO SALES ADJUSTED TO $233,000.

THAT WOULD INDICATE, AS STRANGE AS IT SEEMS, THAT THE SALE ADJACENT TO THE SHOPPING CENTER ACTUALLY SOLD FOR A HIGHER PRICE, WHICH TELLS ME THAT IT DID NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE SALE OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. WHAT WE LOOKED AT NEXT WAS THE DAILIES, WHICH IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO, AND OUT PARCEL OF THAT SHOPPING CENTER.

NOW, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT HERE. FIRST, THE DAILIES ONTO 10, THE

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UM, JASMINE WAY USED TO GO THROUGH THERE. AND IN 2006, THE COUNTY PUT A POST THERE TO STOP TRAFFIC FROM GOING. TO THE DAILIES, WHICH WAS BUILT IN 2007, SO, BUT IT IS STILL AVAILABLE FOR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.SO, ANYBODY THAT IS IN THE SUBDIVISION CAN WALK DOWN THIS STREET AND GO THROUGH THE CONVENIENCE STORE OR PEOPLE FROM THE CONVENIENCE STORE CAN GO BACK INTO THE SUBDIVISION. SALE NUMBER FOUR, AGAIN, IS THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE DAILIES. SALE FIVE AND SIX ARE LOCATED AWAY FROM IT AND WHAT ÃIF THERE WERE A NEGATIVE IMPACT, THESE SALES SHOULD HAVE SOLD FOR MORE.AGAIN, WE PUT THESE SALES IN THE SAME FORMAT AS THE FANNIE MAE REPORT, UTILIZED THE SAME ADJUSTMENTS AND LOOKED AT THEM. AND AGAIN, WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS THAT THE SALE NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE DAILIES, DID NOT SELL FOR LESS THAN THE OTHER TWO CELLS. SO, AGAIN, THAT INDICATED TO US THAT THE PRESENCE OF THE DAILIES DID NOT NEGATIVELY INFLUENCE THAT TRANSACTION. WE THEN LOOKED A LITTLE FURTHER AND WE FOUND ANOTHER CONVENIENCE STORE ON COUNTY ROAD 220 AND CLAY COUNTY.

THIS IS DOWN IN THE MIDDLEBURG AREA. AND HERE, WE'VE LOOKED AT SALE

NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE CONVENIENCE STORE. >> OKAY, LET HIM FINISH.

>> THANK YOU. SALES EIGHT AND NINE ARE ALSO IN THE SAME SUBDIVISION AND ARE LOCATED FURTHER BACK. AGAIN, UNDERGOING THE SAME TYPE OF ANALYSIS.

WE SEE HERE THAT AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE CONVENIENCE STORE DID NOT SELL FOR LESS THAN THE OTHER TWO SALES IN THE SAME SUBDIVISION.

SO, BASED ON THAT, IT'S OUR OPINION THAT BEING LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE CONVENIENCE STORE FOR THE SHOPPING CENTER DOES NOT APPARENTLY HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT, ACCORDING TO WHAT THE MARKET IS DOING. NOT SOMEBODY'S PERSONAL OPINION, BUT THIS IS WHAT THE MARKET IS ACTUALLY DOING OUT THERE. ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT HAS COME UP RELATES TO THE TRAFFIC VOLUME AND THAT WAS ONE OF OUR CONCERNS AS WELL.

THIS IS A DAILIES OVER ON PALM VALLEY ROAD. IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT IS A NEW SUBDIVISION THAT PRESERVES POINT SUBDIVISION.

THAT'S GOING IN. WE LOOKED AT THE SALES PRICES AND THE RATE OF SALES IN THIS SUBDIVISION AND COMPARED IT TO OTHER SUBDIVISIONS IN THAT GENERAL AREA.

THE SALES PRICES OF THESE LOTS AND THESE HOUSES ARE COMPARABLE TO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS AREA. THE THING THAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT THIS IS THAT IF YOU NOTICE THE STREET GOING INTO THE SUBDIVISION LINES UP WITH THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE INTO THE DAILIES. NOW, THERE IS A TRAFFIC LIGHT HERE.

WHICH STOPS TRAFFIC ON LINDSTROM, WHICH THEN PREVENTS OR HAMPERS INGRESS AND EGRESS TO BOTH THE SUBDIVISION AND TO THE DAILIES, AND AGAIN, THE DATA HERE INDICATES THAT THAT TRAFFIC DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THESE LOTS WHEN COMPARED TO OTHER LOTS IN THIS SAME GENERAL AREA. ONE LAST COMMENT THAT WAS MADE RELATED TO FINANCING, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE SHOPPING CENTER ON 220. THE DAILIES, AND WE LOCATED WHERE THE TANKS WERE AND MEASURED, THE SECOND HOUSE IN HIS LOCATED AT WHITE JASMINE.

THE PROPERTY SOLD IN 2014 WAS FINANCED BY A VA LOAN. IT RESOLD IN B& 2018 WITH AN FH

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AS INDICATED BY THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT TWO LOANS THERE. THE THIRD ONE BUT THE SECOND HOUSE THAT WE HAVE A 400 SUITE JASMINE, THAT ONE SOLD IN 2015 AND AGAIN WAS FINANCED WITH THE VA LOAN. THE FINANCING IS AVAILABLE AND IT IS NOT BEING PROHIBITED BY THE LENDERS. AS ALL APPRAISERS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.

YOU NOTE THE PRESENCE OF AN EXTERNALITY. I.E. THE CONVENIENCE STORE.

IF YOU THINK IT HAS AN IMPACT, YOU MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT. THAT DOES NOT PRECLUDE THE LENDER FROM MAKING THE LOAN. THE APPRAISER IS SUPPOSED TO LET THE CLIENT KNOW, SO THE CLIENT CAN MAKE THE DECISION. THAT IS WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE.

IT DOES NOT PRECLUDE THEM FROM MAKING THE LOAN. BUT THEY HAVE TO KNOW THAT IT'S THERE. AND THAT WAS THE RESEARCH THAT WE DID, AND BASED ON THAT.

I CANNOT FIND ANY MARKET EVIDENCE THAT WOULD SHOW THE PROXIMITY TO EITHER SHOPPING CENTER OR TO A PROPOSED CONVENIENCE STORE WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE VALUE OF THESE PROPERTIES.

>>>I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CHRIS COME UP TO TALK ABOUT FUELLING STATIONS, OPERATIONS

AND INTRODUCE THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS REPORT. >>>GOOD AFTERNOON MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS CHRISCALAGARY PRESIDENT OF LAND ASSOCIATES.

A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROFESSIONAL FOR OVER THIRTY YEARS. I WAS ASKED TO COME TODAY TO HOPEFULLY CLARIFY ANY CONCERNS REGARDING ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, REALLY TO THE SYSTEM AT THE PROPOSED SITE.

I WORKED ON HUNDREDS OF THESE KINDS OF SITES THROUGH MY CAREER.

FOR THE RECORD MY LOCATION IS 200 MALLORY STREET. SORRY.

>>>PETROLEUM CONTAMINATION RESULTING FROM A FUEL RELEASE FROM A SYSTEM MIGRATING OFF SITE TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, PROPERTIES AND TO THE PORTABLE WELL SYSTEMS IS EXTREMELY UNLIKELY. THERE'S MANY LEVELS OF PROTECTIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED.

THE FIRST LEVEL OF PROTECTIONS ARE THE ENVIRONMENTAL RULES AND REGULATIONS FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THE STATUTES AND THEIR REQUIREMENTS SET MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR TANK SYSTEMS. THAT PROVIDE FOR INSTALLATION OVERSIGHT.

THEY PROVIDE FOR MONITORING, INSPECTION, REPORT OING AND IN THE UNLIKELY VENT RELEASE OCCURS THEY REQUIRE FINANCIAL STABILITY TO CLEAN THOSE THINGS UP QUICKLY.

SO IF IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT A RELEASE DOES O OCCUR THEY ARE CAUGHT QUICKLY AND CLEANED UP.

THERE'S NO TIME FOR ANY MIGRATION TO THE GROUND WATER TO TRAVEL OFF SITE, TO TRAVEL DISTANCES OF, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF FEET. THESE SYSTEMS OF TODAY ARE NOT THE SYSTEMS OFFIESTER YEAR I SPEND MY CAREER CLEANING UP OVER TIME.

ASSESSING HOW THINGS MOVED, WHY THEY MOVED AND HOW PROBLEMS OCCURRED.

TODAYS SYSTEMS SO MUCH MORE ADVANCED. DOUBLE WALLED, TANK SYSTEM, INLINE SYSTEMS. THE ACTUAL PUMPS HAVE LINERS IN THEM.

THE SPACE BETWEEN THE WALLS IS CONTINUOUSLY MONITORED FOR SYSTEMS LIKE A FEEDER RIDGE SYSTEM. THE SYSTEMS ARE ALARMED. IF THERE'S A RELEASE DETECTED IT GOES RIGHT TO THE STATION, CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS WITHIN FOUR HOURS.

REPORTS HAVE TO BE MADE BY RURAL, BY REGULATIONS TO THE AGENCY WITHIN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. THEY HAVE TO BE INVESTIGATED RIGHT AWAY AND CLEANED UP IF A RELEASE DID ACTUALLY OCCUR. THE EMERGENCY SYSTEMS ON THESE TANKS ARE PHENOMENAL THESE DAYS.

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THERE'S EMERGENCY SWITCH IN THE STATION THAT THE ATTENDANTS CAN HIT, IF NEEDED.

THE ACTUAL PUMPS THEMSELVES ARE DESIGNED WITH SHEER VALVES. IF A CAR RUNS INTO A PUMP AND KNOCKS IT AND DISLODGES IT THERE'S AN AUTOMATIC VALVE THAT NO FUEL IS LOST.

THERE ARE SLAS PROTECTIONS IF YOU FORGET TO TAKE THE HANDLE OUT F OF YOUR CAR AND SOMEONE DRIVES OFF WITH THE HOSE, WHICH WE SEE PERIODICALLY. THERE'S VALVES TO SHUT THE FUEL OFF. BETWEEN THE MONITORING SYSTEM, DETECTION SYSTEM, THE DOUBLE WALL OF NATURE OF THE SYSTEM. IT'S VERY PROTECTIVE. SO BETWEEN THE STANDARDS THAT PROVIDE FOR THE PROTECTIONS AND REALLY THE SAFEGUARDING OF THE ENVIRONMENT, ALONG WITH THE TANK SYSTEM DESIGNS. IN COMBINATION WITH THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES OF THE SITE PROVIDES PROTECTIONS THAT THE LIKELIHOOD OF CONTAMINATION REACHING THE DRINKING WATER AQUIFER, WHICH IS NOT THE SHALLOW AQUIFER OR EVEN IN THE SHALLOW AQUIFER IS EXTREMELY LIMIT AND VERY UNLIKELY. I COULD GO INTO MORE TECHNICAL ABOUT THE GEOLOGY, THE HYDRO GEOLOGY, THE PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES OF THE SITE THAT HELP PREVENT AND ALMOST BARRICADE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE.

I WAS REALLY BROUGHT HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? >> I DON'T SEE ANY AT THIS

TIME. >>>TIEING INTO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE KEITH DRAW SPEAK TO YOU. HE CAN SPEAK TO OPERATIONS ABOUT DAILIES.

>>>GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU. I WANT TO VERY BRIEFLY ADDRESS THREE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT TO CLARIFY AND PROVIDE YOU WITH INFORMATION, THE CORRECT INFORMATION ABOUT THEM. FIRST OF ALL, THE QUESTION WAS RAISED.

>> NAME AND ADDRESS. >> KEITH DAW. 7014 SKIRN PARKWAY SUITE 290.

JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA 32256. >>>FIRST A QUESTION RAISED ABOUT A TANK LAWSUIT.

JUST TO CLARIFY THERE WAS A LAWSUIT IN FEDERAL COURT WHERE WE SUED A GEORGIA MANUFACTURER OF SOME OF OUR STORAGE TANKS. WE DISCOVERED THAT CONTRARY TO WHAT THEY HAD REPRESENTED IN THEIR CONTRACT, THEY HAD NOT, IN FACT, PROPERLY LINED OUR STORAGE TANKS.

WE DISCOVERED THIS DURING ROUTINE MONITORING OF THE TANKS WHEN SOME OF THE LINING MATERIAL THAT WAS PRESENT, THERE WAS MINIMAL PRESENT BUT NOT FULLY LINED, CAME UP IN OUR FILTERS.

THERE WAS NO PRODUCT. 0 PRODUCT RELEASED TO THE ENVIRONMENT IN CONNECTION WITH THOSE FAILED TANKS. WE SUBSEQUENTLY WENT BACK IN TO THE TANKS THAT WE HAD DISCOVERED THE PROBLEMS WITH AND FULLY LINED THEM OURSELVES TO BE SURE THERE WOULD BE NO ISSUE GOING FORWARD. I WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE A COMMENT WAS MADE ABOUT A LAWSUIT. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LAWSUIT WAS.

SECONDLY, ONE OF THE SPEAKERS REFERENCED A SPILL BUCKET RELEASE AT ONE OF OUR STATIONS.

I DON'T HAVE THE PAPERWORK THAT HE HAD BUT JUST FOLLOWING IT ON THE SCREEN, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHAT IT WAS IS ACTUALLY, AN EXAMPLE OF THE REGULATORY SYSTEM THAT MR. CALAGARY MENTIONED.

WHEN I STARTED WORKING ON ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES NOW ABOUT 32 YEARS AGO, TANKS, I'M SORRY, DISPENSER AND SPILL BASINS DID NOT HAVE CATCH BASINS. NOW IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT BOTH THE DISPENSER AND THE FILL PORT, WHERE THE FUEL IS PUT IN TO THE TANK, HAVE CATCH BASINS AROUND THEM. WHAT THE SPEAKER APPEARED TO BE DESCRIBING WAS OUR LOCATION AT 295 AND BAY MEADOWS, IN ROUTINELY MONITORING OUR SPILL BUCKETS WE APPARENTLY FOUND THAT IT HAD CRACKS. SPILL BUCKETS ARE RUBBER BUCKETS AND THEY DEGRADE OVER TIME.

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AGAIN, ALL OF THESE SYSTEMS ARE CONTINUOUSLY MONITORED BOTH ELECTRONICALLY OF THE PRODUCT BUT ALSO ON AN INVENTORY BASIS. FINALLY, ONE OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED, EXCUSE ME, A 1980S CONTAMINATION. LEAKING OF A STORAGE TANK FROM THE 1980S.

THAT'S ABOUT WHEN I STARTED WORKING ON ENVIRONMENT IT WILL ISSUES RELATING TO TANKS.

AS HE INDICATED THE TANKS THEN ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE TANKS NOW.

THOSE ARE EXACTLY THE KIND OF TANKS THAT CAUSED THE REGULATIONS NOW IN PLACE.

BUT MOST PERTINENTLY TO US AS TO THAT SITE WE PROBABLY INHERITED THAT SITE.

WE DID NOT OPERATE THAT SITE. THAT IS NOT OUR TANK. WE JUST SIMPLY OWN THE PROPERTY NOW. IT APPEARS TO, FROM WHAT I CAN UNDERSTAND FROM WHAT THE SPEAKER DESCRIBED, IT IS UNDER CONTINUING REMEDIATION PURSUANT TO FLORIDA CLEANUP PROGRAMS. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABILITY THOSE THREE POINTS.

BECAUSE I'M THE GUY THAT KNOWS THOSE FACTS THEY ASKED ME TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU.

>> I DON'T SEE ANY AT THIS TIME. >> THANK YOU.

>>>THEN TO WRAP UP WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS TO BRING IN.

LINDSY KELLER TO ADDRESS DRAINAGE ON SITE AND SOME QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP ABOUT THE EXISTING DRAINAGE. WE SAW THAT ON FILM. WE SAW THAT ON FILM.

GOO GOOD EVENING. LINDSY KELLER. I AM A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. ADDRESS IS 14775 OLD ST. AUGUSTINE ROAD, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA 32258. THEY REQUEST I GIVE COMMENTS CONCERNING DRAINING CONCERNS.

WE ARE REGULATED AS PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS WHEN WE PERMIT PLAN AND SITES THAT WE HAVE TO MEET STATE AND LOCAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DISCHARGES FROM THE SITES. THE PONDS ON SITES ARE DESIGNED TO ALLOW FOR SETTLEMENT OF SOLIDS AND REGULATE THE DISCHARGE OF THAT STORM WATER FROM THE SITE. SO A WAY TO THINK OF THAT IS IF IN CURRENT CONDITIONS WE HAVE ONE CUP OF WATER THAT'S FLOWING AT FIVE FEET PER SECOND. WHEN WE GET DONE DESIGNING THE SYSTEM WE ARE ONLY AA LOUED TO LET ONE CUP OF WATER LEAVE AT FIVE FEET PER SECOND OFF THE SITE. SO WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE FLOWS LEAVING THE SITES.

THE WAY THAT THIS SITE IS BEING DEVELOPED IS THE PONDS ARE ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. BUT WE ARE DISCHARGES INTO THE D-O-T SYSTEM ON THE EAST SIDE ALONG STATE ROAD 13. NO WATER THAT IS CURRENTLY LEAVING THE SITE IS GOING TO BE GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION. THE COMMENT CAME UP, AS FAR AS THE DRAINAGE ALONG OTOS PLACE.

THIS IS A HISTORICAL PROBLEM. THIS IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW. WE ARE NOT INCREASING THE DISCHARGES TO THIS ROAD. THE SAME THING. SO THERE IS A COUPLE CUP OF WATER GOING DOWNRIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT INCREASING IT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO INCREASE THESE DISCHARGES. I'M OPEN FOR ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

>>>ANY QUESTIONS? >>>I DON'T SEE ANY. >>>LASTLY JEFF CRAMMEN TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES AGAIN IN THE PRESENTATION WE TALKED ABOUT THE REDUCTION OF ACCESS POINTS ONTO OTOS AND SOME QUESTIONS WERE RAISED DURING PUBLIC

COMMENT. >>>JEFF KRAMONDAY. 14775 OLD ST. AUGUSTINE ROAD.

I'M ALSO A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND SIX OTHER STATES AND HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR THIRTY SOMETHING YEARS. AS WE'VE SHOWN IN THE PRESENTATION, BETWEEN WHAT IS CURRENTLY PERMITTED AND WHAT IS PROPOSED THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN THE AMOUNT OF TURBULENCE ON OTOS. THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC ENTERING.

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IT, IN MY OPINION, WOULD CAUSE MORE OF A PROBLEM THAN A SINGLE INTERSECTION WITH ALL THE MOVEMENTS COMBINED. THE OTHER TRAFFIC RELATED ISSUE IS THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC.

WE SHOWED TRIP GENERATION BETWEEN 75 THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF SHOPPING CENTER AND THE PROPOSED PLAN. THEY WERE ALL IN THE SAME ORDER OF MAGNITUDE.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT OTHER OF THE APPROVED USES AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART, THE ONES IN RED ARE LESS. THE ONES IN BLACK ARE HIGHER. IF WE DIVIDED THE SITE INTO OUT PARCELS WHERE YOU HAVE ONE OUT PARCEL ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY. THREE ON THE SOUTHERN.

DID ANY OF THE RETAIL TYPE USES, THE TOTAL GENERATION FROM THE SITE WOULD BE AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE HIGHER THAN WHAT THE SHOPPING CENTER WOULD HAVE. IT WOULD BE AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THE SAME ORDER OF MAGNITUDE AS CURRENTLY APPROVING IN THE CENTER. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

ON TRAFFIC I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. >> MR. JONES.

>> TRAFFIC GENERATION AND ANALYSIS IS BASED ON FORMULAS. >> YES.

>> STATE ROAD 13 IS CONTROLLED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

WHY DOES THE PRESENTATION INDICATE LESS THAN 3:00 PMP TRIPS AND THE COUNTIES

CALCULATION IS HIGHER? >> IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER YOU'RE LOOKING AT GROSS PM TO PEAK HOUR TRIPS OR NET. ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT WAS SHOWN HAD TWO DIFFERENT GENERATION RATES FOR A GAS STATION. ONE WAS BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOAGE OF THE BUILDING.

ONE WAS BASED O ON THE ACTUAL VOLUMES ON STATE ROAD 13. THE TRIP GENERATION RATES ASSOCIATED WITH THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING ARE IN ESSENCE THE CAPACITY OF THE FACILITY. THIS IS HOW MUCH TRAFFIC THE FACILITY COULD HANDLE.

THE OTHER ONE, WHICH WAS ABOUT A CAR EVERY TWENTY MINUTES LESS THAN THE SHOPPING CENTER RATE, IS BASED ON THE STATE ROAD 13 AND OTOS TRAFFIC FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.

THAT ONE IS BASED ON, SINCE THE CONVENIENCE STORE GAS IS PRIMARILY A PASS BIBY AND NOT A DESTINATION TYPE COMMERCIAL. THAT GIVES YOU YOUR MARKET THAT YOU'RE PULLING OUT OF.

60% OF THE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF A CONVENIENCE STORE COMES FROM THE ADJACENT STREET.

FOR A SHOPPING CENTER IT'S 34%. SO EVEN THOUGH THE GROSS TRAFFIC IS ABOUT THE SAME, THERE'S A LOT MORE NEW TRIPS FOR SHOPPING CENTER THAN THERE WOULD BE FOR CONVENIENCE STORE BECAUSE YOU DON'T DRIVE TO A GAS STATION AND GO HOME. YOU STOP ON YOUR WAY TO SOMEWHERE ELSE. THAT'S WHY THE NET NEW TRIPS CON CURRENCY SYSTEM LOOKS AT GOES THAT WAY. ACTUALLY LESS THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY APPROVED.

>> WITH GAS STATIONS ON THE EAST SIDE OF STATE ROAD 13 LOCATED NORTH AND SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY. THIS ONE IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF 13.

WHY DO YOU NEED A CONNECTION TO OTOS PLACE. IF IT'S PASS THROUGH TRAFFIC PEOPLE ARE NOT LIKELY TO CROSS THE ROAD TO THIS FACILITY HAVING ALREADY PASSED A GAS STATION TO THE SOUTH OR PASSING ONE ON THE NORTH. IF IT'S PASSED THROUGH TRAFFIC THEY ARE GOING TO BE STOPPING HERE SOUTHBOUND WITH LITTLE ENCOURAGEMENT TO CROSS 13 TO GET TO IT OR FROM IT. I CAN UNDERSTAND THE OFFICE PART BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE ACCESS POINT. BUT TO THE CONSTITUENTS CONCERNS, THE TRAFFIC GENERATED ON OTOS PLACE BY THAT DRIVE WAY IS SUBSTANTIAL. WITHOUT THAT DRIVEWAY IT'S AN INDEPENDENT PROPERTY FROM OTOS PLACE THAT WULD NOT GENERATE THE TRAFFIC WHICH SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCE POTENTIAL FOR CONTAMINATION ON VEHICLE WHEELS GOING ONTO OTOS PLACE.

REGARDLESS OF THE CONTAINMENT MR. PROVIDED BY THE SYSTEM THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR DROP AND DRIPS TO TRAVEL. IF THERE'S NO CONNECTION FROM THIS PROPERTY TO OTOS PLACE THAT ELIMINATES THAT POTENTIAL ISSUE. SEPARATES PEDESTRIANS FROM VEHICLE TRAFFIC AND THE LIST

GOES ON. >> OKAY. OF THE NET NEW TRIPS, THE ONES THAT DON'T COME BY THE EXISTING TRAFFIC STREET. THE COMPUTER MODELS TELL US THAT ABOUT 70% GO AND COME FROM THE NORTH. THAT VOLUME HAS TO, OF THE TWO

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OR IS DESTINED TO COME AND GO TO THE NORTH. ANYBODY, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A CONNECTION TO OTOS, ANYBODY WANTING TO GO TO THE NORTH WOULD HAVE TO COME OUT, TURN RIGHT, GO DOWN TO THE SIGNAL AT DAVIS POND, THE SAFEST PLACE TO DO IT AND MAKE A U TURN UP.

THAT'S WHY WE NEED THE CONNECTION TO OTOS PLACE. THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF

TRAFFIC THAT WILL USE THAT TO TURN LEFT. >> SO YOU'RE SAYING THEY ARE GOING TO PASS TWO GAS STATIONS ON THE NORTHBOUND SIDE OF STATE ROAD 13.

CROSS 13, GET GAS AND CROSS 13 AGAIN? >> WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE MODELS SHOW US THAT 70% OF THE NEW TRIPS COME FROM THE NORTH AND GO BACK TO THE NORTH.

>> WHAT YOU SAID IS NOT A DESTINATION. >> THAT'S 60% OF THE TRIPS COME OUT OF EXISTING TRAFFIC STREAM. SO IN THE AFTERNOON PEAK THEY'D BE COMING SOUTH ON 13 TURNING IN AND GOING BACK OUT TO THE RIGHT. THOSE WON'T USE OTOS.

BUT ANY OF THE NEW TRIPS THAT USE THE FACILITY THAT WANT TO GO BACK TO THE NORTH WOULD NEED TO

USE OTOS. >> DESTINATION OR IT'S NOT. >> NO.

60% OF THE TRIPS COME OUT OF THE EXISTING TRAFFIC STREAM. THAT MEANS 40% DO NOT COME OUT OF THE EXISTING TRAFFIC STREAM. OF THE 40%, THE MODELS SAY THAT 70% COME AND GO FROM THE NORTH.

>> LEGAL? >> IF THAT CONCLUDES THE QUESTION? MR. CHAIR, THE BOARDS HAD A LONG DAY AND I THINK THIS HEARING HAS BEEN VERY INFORMATIVE AND LENGTHY. I WOULD SAY MY SENSE IS THE REBUTTAL HAD QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION. IN MY VIEW, SOME INFORMATION THAT PERHAPS COULD HAVE BEEN PART OF THE INITIAL PRESENTATION RATHER THAN JUST IN REBUTTAL. MY JOB IS TO PROVIDE FORMAT FOR THE BOARD FOR A FAIR HEARING AND FOR THE BOARD TO BE WELL INFORMED ON ITS DECISION.

GIVEN THAT, THERE WAS A LOT OF NEW INFORMATION PUT OUT IN THE REBUTTAL FOR THE FIRST TIME.

IT WOULD BE MY SENSE IF M MR. MULLIGAN HAS A BRIEF REBUTTAL, HE MAY OR MAY NOT WISH TO DO THAT AND ILLUMINATE QUESTIONS HE WOULD ASK OR HAVE THE BOARD ASK GIVEN THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF NEW INFORMATION IN THE REBUTTAL VERSUS THE INITIAL PRESENTATION.

IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW MR. MULLIGAN THAT OPPORTUNITY.

>> I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET UP QUICKLY. I WON'T TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME. I WAS A LITTLE TAKEN BACK THAT THERE WAS SO MUCH MORE INFORMATION THAT WAS BROUGHT OUT THAT WAS CLEARLY PREPARED FOR LONG BEFORE THEY DECIDED IT WAS A REBUTTAL. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESENTED ORIGINALLY AND WOULD HAVE GIVEN THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS IT.

A LOT OF THE INFORMATION WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DID HAVE PEOPLE TO SPEAK ABOUT.

WE HAD SOMEBODY TALK ABOUT AN APPRAISER HIMSELF. HE COULD HAVE ASKED THE QUESTIONS I THINK ARE IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT THE APPRAISER WAS LOOKING AT DID THEY HAVE WELL AND SEPTIC? DID HE SEE THE APPRAISERS.

THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATE TO ASK.

SAME WITH THERE CALI GARY. HE GAVE INFORMATION ABOUT STATUTES AND ORDNANCES THAT DEAL WITH GAS STATIONS. MAYBE SOMEBODY COULD HAVE COME UP AND SAID, WHY DO YOU THINK WE HAVE SO MANY STATUTES AND ORDNANCES DEALING WITH GAS STATIONS.

IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE INHERENTLY A PROBLEM. THEY DO LEAK.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THESE LEGISLATION. WE KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LEAK. W KNOW WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO MONITOR THEM.

THIS COMMISSION PASSED A THREE HUNDRED FOOT BOUNDARY BECAUSE THEY SAW A NEED FOR IT.

THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.

THERE'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE GAS IS FLAMMABLE. IT'S COMBUSTIBLE.

IT COULD BLOW UP. SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE HAD SOMEBODY DISCUSS THAT WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE DEPTH. THIS IS LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. THIS IS YOU'RE MAKING THE PUBLIC POLICY FOR THE COUNTY. THIS ISN'T DOES THE GAS STATION GO HERE OR DOESN'T IT GO HERE.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>>THANK YOU. [CLAPPING]

>>>COMMISSIONER. >>>FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT CAME TODAY AND SPOKE IN FAVOR OF IT. BECAUSE OF THE SUNSHINE LAW WE ARE NOT ABLE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION UNLESS WE'RE HERE IN THE SUNSHINE. THIS IS A POLICY MAKING DECISION. IT DOES INVOLVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT THE CITIZENS THAT ARE MOST IMPACTED BY THIS DO NOT WANT THIS. I DO APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT.

I UNDERSTAND WE WANT BUSINESSES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE WANT ECONOMIC GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S IMPORTANT. I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS IN WHICH YOU'VE ATTEMPTED TO ADDRESS. I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE STORAGE TANKS.

I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE WATER POLLUTION. WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED IN OUR PACKET NUMEROUS DOCUMENTS. THERE'S A STUDY FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA, I BELIEVE, AND SOME OTHER UNIVERSITIES THAT INDICATED SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT COULD COME FROM CONTAMINATION THAT E. THE BENZENE IN PARTICULAR, AS A PARENT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT OUR KIDS AND CONCERNS WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE POINTED THAT OUT. I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE FACT THAT COULD HAPPEN BEING THIS CLOSE. IT IS OBVIOUS FROM HERE FROM THE COMMUNITY TODAY THAT THEY DO NOT WANT THIS. THEY DO NOT FEEL IT IS COMPATIBLE. I DO UNDERSTAND THOSE CONCERNS AND HAVE ADDITIONAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMPATBLE OF THIS PROJECT. I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT TO FELLOW

BOARD MEMBERS. >>>COMMISSIONER DEAN. [INAUDIBLE]

>>>HE GAVE A VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND PROFESSIONAL PRESENTATION, WHICH I WAS IMPRESSED BY. HOWEVER, THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL, THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT IS TOTALLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND RESIDENTS WHO LIVED THERE 20-25 YEARS. [CLAPPING] .

>> I CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIENTIOUS SUPPORT THIS COMP PLAN.

>>>IS THERE A MOTION? REVIEWING WITH COUNSEL, I THINK I BELIEVE SOME PROPOSED IT TIS TO SOME OF THE PROPOSED FINDINGS. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AND REITERATE I THOUGHT PERTAINING TO THE APPLICANT AND THE PRESENTATION. THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST PROFESSIONALLY PROVIDED PRESENTATIONS THAT I'VE SEEN IN THIS AUDITORIUM.

I WOULD SAY FOR THE CITIZENS, EACH CITIZEN THAT CAME UP WAS RESPECTFUL.

PUT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, I THINK AND EXPRESSED THEIR VIEWS IN A RESPECTFUL AND USEFUL MANNER TO THE BOARD. AS A HEARING IT WAS A FAIR AND INFORMATIVE HEARING FOR THE

BOARD. >>>MR. CHAIR, IN THE PROPOSED FINDINGS THERE'S KIND OF FINDINGS THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDS. THESE TYPE OF SITUATIONS WE'D LIKE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT THE BOARD IS FINDING IN TERMS OF ITS MOTIONS.

SO THERE'S TOM SOM ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE. MOSTLY REGARDING COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE ASSOCIATED WITH THE FINDINGS OR DENIAL FOR THIS APPLICATION. NUMBER THREE, THAT'S WHERE THE CHANGES START. THAT'S IN THE PROPOSED DOMENT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, PROPOSED EXPANSION OF COMMUNITY NODE IS NOT WARRANTED. THAT'S A POLICY DECISION UNDER A A138 UNDER FINDING NUMBER FOUR.

IT SAYS THE PROPOSED INCREASE IN INTENSITY OF VE HICK CUE LAR BASED NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING EXISTING COMMUNITY. CAPTURE THAT DISCUSSION

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WITH PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DESIGN AND THE DEVIATION FROM THE DEVELOPMENT AND REQUIREMENT IS NOT JUSTIFIED. KIND OF SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING THE NORTHWEST SECTOR POLICIES.

NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS MORE APPROPRIATE TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THOSE ARE KIND OF SOME PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE FINDINGS IF THE BOARD WOULD INCORPORATE THAT IN A MOTION FOR DENIAL IF IT SO CHOOSES.

>> I DID WANT TO SAY FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS, SHOULD THIS BOARD CHOOSE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AND APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. OUR OFFICE IS PREPARED TO FULLY DEFEND THAT DECISION. SHOULD THE BOARD CHOOSE TO DENY THE APPLICATION WE ARE FULLY PREPARED TO DEFEND THAT DECISION. I THINK MR. SORIA HAD SPELLED OUT A FEW MORE DETAILS PERTAINING TO THAT POSSIBILITY. MR. CHAIR.

>>>COMMISSIONER DEAN. >>>EXCUSE ME, AFTER NINE HOURS I'M GETTING A LITTLE BIT FOGGY. LET ME ASK YOU, AGAIN. THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN FRONT OF US, TO EITHER APPROVE OR DENY, UNDER THE DENIAL IT REFERENCES FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT.

ARE THOSE THE ONES THAT YOU JUST SHOWED US ON THE OVERHEAD OR THE ONES ON THE OVERHEAD IN ADDITION

TO OR DIFFERENT FROM THE ONES REFERENCED IN OUR AGENDA ITEM. >> THEY ARE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ONES REFERENCED IN YOUR AGENDA ITEM. IT'S TAKING WHAT'S IN YOUR AGENDA ITEM AND FILLING OUT SPECIFICS. BECAUSE THE CITATIONS ARE TO

SPECIFIC POLICIES WHICH ARE BROAD IN SCOPE. >>>DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

>>>BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD TODAY MR. CHAIR I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY SPA222019-O4. BASED ON FINDINGS OF FACT AS AMENDED.

>> SECOND THAT. WE HAVE >>>WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO DENY. PLEASE VOTE. DENIED 5-0.

[CLAPPING] [CHEERING] >>>NUMBER 12 WAS PULLED.

[Item 12]

GIVE THEM ONE MINUTE. >>>WE STILL HAVE AN HOUR TO GO, AT LEAST.

>>>WE DO? >> I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE. >>>WE'LL START WITH -- IF YOU COULD GO OUT. IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK PLEASE GO OUTSIDE.

IF NOT SIT DOWN. WE HAVE BUSINESS TO ATTEND TO. THEY THOUGHT IT WAS CHURCH.

[Reports]

>>>OKAY. WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER REPORTS.

COMMISSIONER JONES. >>>I TALKED ENOUGH TODAY. I'M GOOD FOR TODAY.

THANK YOU SIR. >>>COMMISSIONER BLOCKARD. >> THANK YOU.

I HAVE SPOKEN TOO MUCH TODAY. BUT I DID HAVE TWO THINGS THAT I'D BE REMISS IF WE DIDN'T, IF I DIDN'T BRING UP. AS FAR AS THE, IF I CAN DIRECT THIS TO ADMINISTRATION.

I THINK SOMETIME AGO WE DISCUSSED, THE STAFF DID A REVIEW OF WHEN I SUGGESTED WAS AN ACTUAL CONTRIBUTIONEN O OUR TAX FORM. THE STAFF REPORT WE GOT BACK SAID THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON IS NOT LAWFUL UNDER FLORIDA LAW. I HAVE DISAGREEMENT WITH THAT.

I BELIEVE IT IS DONE OTHER PLACES. WHAT DID COME BACK WAS ON THE UTILITY BILL, WHICH IS DONE IN SOME ADJOINING COUNTIES TO LOOK AT THAT.

I WAS HOPING WE COULD GET SOME CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD AND MAYBE HAVE THAT BROUGHT BACK.

WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CITIZENS BRING UP THE COMMITTEE. THIS WOULD BE A WAY, CLAY COUNTY DOES IT WHERE THEY ALLOW FOR ROUND UP CONTRIBUTION ON THE UTILITY BILL.

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DIRECT STAFF TO BRING A PROPOSAL ON THIS. >> EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT?

>> YEAH. MY FIRST THOUGHT, WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND HOURS ON THIS.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER AND WASTE WATER UTILITY. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY ARE AN ENTERPRISE ZONE AND I'M NOT SURE WE CAN ADD A VOLUNTARY DONATION FOR ANOTHER MATTER OTHER THAN THE ENTERPRISE ZONE. SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.

I'M WITH YOU IN POLICY. >> SURE. OUR STAFF REVIEWED THIS AND CAME BACK AND SAID THEIR UNDERSTANDING WAS WE COULD. CLAY COUNTY DOES DO THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY FALL UNDER ENTERPRISE ZONE, AS WELL. >> WE CAN CHECK IN CLAY

COUNTY. CLAY ELECTRIC DOING THAT? >> THE QUESTION WE LOOKED AT IS CAN WE PUT IT ON OUR TAX BILL? IT CAME BACK THAT WASN'T A FEASIBLE OPTION. THAT'S WHERE WE STOPPED. THE COMMISSIONER AND I HAD CONVERSATION REGARDING THE UTILITY BILL. WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DIFFERENCE OF BEING A CHARTER VERSUS NONCHARTER COUNTY.

WE CAN LOOK AT IT. SURE. >>>EXCUSE ME.

>>>THEN AGAIN, IF WE COULD JUST ASK THE BOARD TO CONSIDER LOOKING AT, THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF LAMP COMMITTEE. OBVIOUSLY THOSE WENT AWAY IN SOME COUNTIES SOME TIME AGO.

I'M NOT SURE WHEN WE STOPPED DOING THAT. I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A PUSH FOR THAT. I THINK IT WOULD BE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SEE IF THERE'S

CONSENSUS TO LOOK INTO STARTING BACK UP AGAIN. >>>OKAY.

>>>I'M WITH THAT. >>>POLICY WISE I'M ALL FOR IT.

>>>WE CAN GET SOME CONSENSUS ON THIS? >> I THINK COMMISSIONER

SMITH YOU FEIGN WITH THAT? >> I'M FINE LOOKING INTO IT.

I HAVE SOME RESERVATION AND THINGS I THINK NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IF IT IS IMPLEMENTED.

I HAVE GOVERNMENT LAND ACQUISITION HAS ITS NEGATIVES. I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH

THAT. >>>COMMISSIONER JOHNS? >>>I AM RESPECTFULLY NOT

ENCOURAGING STAFF TO SPEND TIME ON THIS. >>>OKAY.

I THINK YOU HAVE A SLIGHT CONSENSUS ACROSS THE BOARD. YOU KNOW, JUST TO LOOK AT IT WHETHER IT'S FEASIBLE. I AM CONCERNED WHEN THE GOVERNMENT BUYS PROPERTY IF WE'RE NOT HAVING A USE FOR THE PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, WE OWN A LOT OF PROPERTY ALREADY BETWEEN WATER, THE STATE OF FLORIDA, ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

THAT'S SOMETHING, TOO, WE NEED TO PROBABLY SHOW PEOPLE IS HOW MANY ACRES ARE ACTUALLY IN CONSERVATION IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE NUMBER IS PRETTY HIGH.

IT CAN BE MORE. BUT YOU'RE ASKING LANDOWNERS, YOUR ASKING US TO DO SOMETHING WATER MANAGEMENT WAS BASICALLY ASKED ALL OF US TO DO. THEY'VE GOT OUT OF THE LAND ACQUISITION PART OF IT. THEY MADE SOME REALLY SWEET DEALS ALLOWING PEOPLE TO STILL USE THE PROPERTY AND FUNCTION BUT NOT DEVELOP. THAT'S BESIDE IT.

COMMISSIONER DEAN. >>>JUST TWO QUICK THINGS. NUMBER ONE I'M ONLY FOR LAND ACQUISITION OF CONSERVATION LANDS IF IT'S STRICTLY VOLUNTARY, ARMS LENGTH, NOT CONDEMNATION OR EMINENT DOMAIN. NUMBER TWO, THERE HAVE BEEN STUDIES, OBJECTIVE STUDIES DONE THAT SHOW PROPERTY VALUES ADJACENT TO CONSERVATION LANDS ACTUALLY INCREASE IN VALUE.

USUALLY THE CONSERVATION LANDS THAT ARE PURCHASED ARE VERY, VERY, VERY LOW ASSESSMENTS ON THE TAX ROLL. YOU'RE NOT TAKING A LOT OF MONEY OFF THE TAX ROLL.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 40 YEARS AND I CAN CITE A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS PENNIES TO THE DOLLAR WHEN IT'S GREEN BELTED AND YOU'RE NOT TAKING IN HARDLY ANY MONEY.

WHEN YOU PUT IT IN PERMANENT CONSERVATION IT ENHANCES THE VALUE OF ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

THINGS TO THINK ABOUT. >>>AND YES, SIR, THAT CAN BE PART OF THE STUDY.

>>>JUST FOR CLARITY I'M NOT SUGGESTING WITH ACQUIRE LAND. I BELIEVE THE COMMITTEES ARE TO ADVISE THE COUNTY OF POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES. AS I UNDERSTAND THE FOUNDATION WERE MAKING AK KWI TIGS TO ADVISE THE BOARD ON TRACKS OF LAND THAT MIGHT BE ATTAINABLE.

I'M LOOKING FOR, ONE, IS IT SOMETHING WORTH STARTING UP AGAIN?

AND TWO, THIS WOULD BE AN ADVISORY ROLE. >> WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN. DARRYL AND I WERE JUST TRADING CONVERSATION.

WE THINK WE ANSWERED THIS RECENTLY TO THE BOARD. THERE IS NO FUNDING FOR A PROGRAM LIKE THAT. THERE ARE COSTS WITH ACQUIRING LAND.

YOU'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THEM. OUR SENSE WAS THERE WAS NOT A CONSENSUS ON THE BOARD TO MOVE

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WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. >>>I CAN MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OF SEVERAL

COUNTIES THAT RESTARTED THIS. IT WILL PROVIDE INCITE. >>>SURE.

HAPPY TO DO THAT. >>>OKAY. COMMISSIONER DEAN?

COMMISSIONER SMITH? >>>I HAVE A FEW THINGS. I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF WITH MY SERIOUS ONE FIRST. THIS IS HAVING TO DO, I AM THE BOARD LIAISON TO THE HOUSING FINANCE AUTHORITY. GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND. I'VE BEEN IN THAT POSITION SINCE I STARTED ON THE COMMISSION FIVE YEARS AGO. THE H-F-A IS NOT MAKING MONEY.

YET THE H-F-A HAS OUTSTANDING EXPENSES FOR WHAT I SEE. THEY DO HAVE LEGAL COUNSEL, AS WELL AS, A CPA THAT SITS ON THAT AUTHORITY THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR. FOR SEVERAL MONTHS THEY'VE BEEN SEEKING AND SEARCHING FOR VALIDITY AFTER THE CONCLUSION OF THE PROJECT.

AT THIS LAST MEETING THE COUNTY STAFF REQUESTED, AND ASKED THEM TO APPROVE DOING AN OVERVIEW OF THEIR VALIDITY AND MAYBE SOME STEPS TO TAKE. THEY REJECTED THAT.

HOWEVER, AS I SAT IN THAT MEETING I FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE EXTRAORDINARILY BENEFICIAL TO THIS BOARD TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED. WHAT I WOULD REQUEST IS I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A WHITE PAPER OR O SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE, TO BE CONTAINING THE FOLLOWING.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT H-F-A ASSETS AND VALUE. THE H-F-A'S OUTSTANDING LIABILITIES. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE AVAILABLE TO THIS BOARD, ST.

JOHNS COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE HFA INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO STAFF TIME AND TANGIBLE ASSETS INCLUDING LAND. I WANT THE QUESTION TO BE ANSWERED FOR THIS BOARD AND FOR OUR, JUST OUR WELFARE. DOES THE D-C-C AND OR COUNTY TAXPAYER HAVE ANY EXPOSURE TO THE H-F-A'S OUTSTANDING DEBT? IF THERE IS ANY. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A DEBT. THAT WAS NOT CLEAR. DO WE HAVE AN EXPOSURE TO THAT? AND CAN H-F-A'S BE INDEPENDENT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT? IF SO, HOW DO MOST FUNCTION? IT'S FROM MY GATHERING A LOT ARE INDEPENDENT OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT BUT THIS HAS BEEN QUITE DEEP IN IT. IF WE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO KNOW AND LOOK FORWARD. I WAS HOPEFUL THAT THE AUTHORITY WOULD VOTE TO DO A, I HAVE HERE, THEY WERE GOING, THE STAFF ASKED THEM TO SUBMIT A LETTER TO THE B-C-C CHAIRMAN REQUESTING STAFF TO REVIEW OR AUDIT OUTSTANDING LIABILITIES OF HFA DEBT TO ASSETS.

THE PURCHASE AND THE FINANCING FOR THAT BOARD. I THOUGHT THAT WAS WISE THING.

TEY DID NOT BUT I'M REQUESTING WE DIRECT STAFF TO DO SUCH. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN AGENDA

ITEM BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND IT WOULD BE FITTING. >> CONSENSUS?

>> YES AND PUBLIC COMMENT. >>>OKAY. >>>PUBLIC COMMENT?

>>>OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS REQUEST FOR STAFF IN REGARD TO HFA.

SEE NONE. WE CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>>MAKE IT A MOTION AND WE'LL

VOTE. >>>I MOTION TO FOLLOW MY PREVIOUS REQUEST IN REGARD TO

WHITE PAPER DIRECTING STAFF TO DO SO. >>>I SECOND THAT.

>>>MOTION AND SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. PASSES 5-0.

>>>THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR ADMINISTRATION FOR LOOKING THROUGH THIS. I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONCERNS BUT I DON'T KNOW.

EVERYBODY IS CERTAIN OF IT. THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS WE JUST NEED TO RECOGNIZE AND MANIFEST.

JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. SWEET POE TODAYS ARE BEING HARVESTED.

FALL PLANTING CONTINUES. IT'S A LITTLE DRY. IT WAS UNTIL A FEW MINUTES AGO, I HEARD IT RAINING. GROUND PREPARATION FOR PEA TODAY TOES IS ONGOING.

SOD MOVEMENT IS STRONG. HOSTING A TRI COUNTY AG AREA LEGISLATIVE TOUR NEXT THURSDAY NOVEMBER 14TH AT 9:30 TO 4:00 P.M. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND IMPACTFUL. . THIS RECENTLY COME OUT WITH ARK G STATS. I WANT GO THROUGH THESE. 34 THOUSAND 400 ACRES IN AG

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POTATO ACREAGE IS AT 88,426. 20 POTATO FARMS. VEGETABLE PRODUCTION IS AT 11,640 ACRE AND THERE ARE 40 FARMERS, YOUNGER THAN 35 YEARS OF AGE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO DANI JOHNS OWNER OF BLUE SKY FARMS. RECENTLY RECOGNIZED FRIDAY NOVEMBER 1ST IN ORLANDO AT THE FARM BUREAU FEDERATION ANNUAL MEETING AS ONE OF THE THREE RECIPIENTS OF THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AWARD. THAT'S AN EXCELLENT THING TO HAVE.

HAPPY VETERANS DAY AND THANK YOU TO ALL WHO SERVE IN UNIFORM DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. THANK YOU FOR THAT AND WE HAD THE RECOGNITION THIS MORNING.

ONE LAST THING ON MY NOTES IS TODAY IS CHAIRMAN WALLDRINS BIRTHDAY.

HE IS 51 YEARS OF AGE. JEREMIAH BLOCKER VOLUNTEERED TO SING OR START US OFF TO SING.

>>>WE HAVE A GOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE. LET'S SING HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

(SINGING HAPPY BIRTHDAY) >>>I THINK THAT WAS REALLY PATHETIC BUT NONETHELESS.

>>>THANK YOU. ONE QUICK THING, TOO. WE ACTUALLY HAD A BOARD MEMBER

WIN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD LIFE ACHIEVEMENT AWARD. >>>YOU CAN'T SING THAT ONE.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >>>THANK YOU. >>>WHICH IS KIND OF AN HONOR.

IT GOES TO PEOPLE THAT ARE LIFELONG, WENT TO OUR SCHOOLS AND SUCCEEDED HELPING OUT THE COMMUNITY FURTHER IN LIFE. REALLY WANT TO APPRECIATE. I KNOW THIS ISN'T MY LAST MEETING AS CHAIR BUT KIND OF MY LAST LONG MEETING AS CHAIR. MAYBE, I GUESS, YOU KNOW.

I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING TOLERANT OF ME LEARNING THIS JOB.

WE'VE HAD SOME LONG MEETINGS LIKE THIS ONE. I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.

THAT'S IT. >>>ADMINISTRATOR? >>>YES, SIR.

THREE QUICK ITEMS. >>>I MENTIONED INTERVIEW IN BRIEFINGS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO CANCEL THE JANUARY 7TH MEETING. ALSO IF I COULD HAVE BOARD ACTION ON THAT. THAT FREES UP STAFF IN THE COMMISSION OF THE HOLIDAYS AND TYPICALLY A SLOW PERIOD. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO MOST OF OUR PLANNING RELATED APPLICANT

AND CLEARED THAT AGENDA. >>>EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? >>>YES, SIR.

>>>I WOULD DO PUBLIC COMMENT. >>>OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON CANCELLING THE JANUARY 7TH REGULAR SCHEDULED BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING. SEEING NONE WE CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >>>WE NEED A MOTION AND SECOND FOR THAT?

WE HAVE CONSENSUS. >>>WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO CANCEL.

>>>THANK YOU. ALSO IN THE SPIRIT OF THE HOLIDAYS THIS IS THE TIME WHERE THE BOARD TYPICALLY ALLOWS STAFF INSTITUTE AT THE LIBRARY THE FOOD FOR FINES PROGRAM WHERE WE TAKE FOOD IN EXCHANGE FOR LIBRARY FINES. LAST YEAR WE FOREGO, WHATEVER THE RIGHT TERM WOULD BE ABOUT $9,000 IN REVENUE BUT RECEIVED FAR MORE THAN THAT FOR FOOD BANK AND NEEDY FAMILIES. WE WOULD LIKE THE BOARDS AUTHORIZATION FOR THAT, AS WELL.

>> EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT ONE? >>>YES, SIR. I THINK YOU HAVE CONSENSUS.

>>>GREAT. FINALLY, IN CLOSING I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION OER THE PARKING LOT. NOTHING THERE WAS INTENTIONAL. I THINK THAT THERE WERE A VARIETY OF THINGS I'LL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR. MORE IMPORTANTLY, I WANT THE BOARD TO KNOW WE'VE ISSUED A PRESS RELEASE DURING THE MEETING.

IT'S ON UNCONVENTIONAL MEDIA AS WELL AS SOCIAL MEDIA THAT THE DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATION WILL FIND A SOLUTION. JOY HAS BEEN WORKING ON A SOLUTION SINCE THAT TIME.

WE'VE REDIRECTED THE SIGNS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE PARKING LOT TO MORE PROMINENT LOCATION.

SO IN INTERIM UNTIL WE IMPLEMENT A SOLUTION IT'S VERY CLEAR THERE'S PARKING DOWN THE ROAD.

I THINK WE'VE DONE AS MUCH AS WE CAN. I'LL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT

BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW WE'RE MOBILIZING TO FIND A SOLUTION. >>>THANK YOU.

>>>LEGAL? >>>THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. I JUST LISTENED TO HIS STATEMENT. I WOULD SAY ONE OF THE SEVERAL ASPECTS OF THE MIKEHERBING RS

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I THINK A BETTER OPPORTUNITY, AGAIN, UNDER THE THEORY NOBODY LIKES A SURPRISE.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. >>>EVERY

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