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>> GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE ZONING PLANNING AGENCY MEETING FOR OCTOBER 17TH.
I HAVE 1:30 ON MY CLOCK. WE'LL START BY READING PUBLIC NOTICE STATEMENT. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK MUST COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD.
UP NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. THIS IS THE TIME WHEN THE PUBLIC CAN SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC NOT ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
SEEING NONE WE'LL CLOSE OUT PUBLIC COMMENTS AND START WITH
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ITEM NUMBER ONE. HOW ARE YOU TODAY?>> VERY WELL. GOOD AFTERNOON AGENCY MEMBERS.
THE FIRST ITEM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS SPECIAL USE PERMIT 2019-03 FOR THE HOWARD RESIDENCE.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO ALLOW FOR THE PLACEMENT OF A MANUFACTURED MODULAR HOME AS A SECOND MAIN USE ON PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN AN EXISTING PLAT. PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1447
FRUIT COVE ROAD. >> THE REQUEST AS I STATE ASKED TO ALLOW PLACEMENT FOR THE PLACEMENT OF A MANUFACTURED HOME AS A SECOND MAIN USE ON PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN AN EXISTED PLAT.
IT WOULD PROVIDE A HOME FOR THEIR SON.
THE PROPOSED MANUFACTURED MOBILE HOME IS 1,890 SQUARE FEET AND IT WILL UTILIZE POTABLE WATER FROM AN EXISTING WELL ON THE PROPERTY BY A NEW WATER LINE AND THEY WILL INSTALL A NEW DRAIN FIELD.
THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS WHERE THE EXISTING HOME IS AND THE PROPOSED MOBILE HOME WILL BE BACK IN THIS AREA. THIS IS A POLE BARN TYPE STRUCTURE. THIS IS THE PROPOSED MOBILE HOME. THERE IS A PRIVATE DRIVE THAT THEY WILL ACCESS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY HERE.
IT WOULD ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE AN INTERIOR DRIVE AS WELL. THEY PROPOSE TO USE THIS DRIVEWAY WITH THE GATE. THE APPLICANTS REQUEST TO PLACE SECOND MAIN USE WILL NOT CREATE ANY UNDUE HARDSHIPS TO THE IMMEDIATE AREA. AN ACCESSORY UNIT WAS AN OPTION.
THEY DID NOT APPLY FOR THAT DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE PROPOSED HOME WHICH WOULD EXCEED THE 35% RARE SHOW ALLOWED.
THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE APPEARS COMPATIBLE THE W THE SURROUNDING AREA AND MEETS ALL APPLICABLE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN THE LAND
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DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 2.03.08 AND .28.THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE ONE OPEN COMMENT WHICH HAS BEEN MADE A CONDITION IN THE FINAL ORDER SHOULD THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED.
IT'S REFERENCING SPECIFICALLY DOING AN ON SITE INSPECTION CONDITION NUMBER FOUR LISTED IN YOUR FINAL ORDER.
REGARDING SECTION 01 REQUEST CAN BE GRANTED WITHOUT DETRIMENT TO THE PUBLIC GOOD. IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE CONTIGUOUS AND SURROUNDING AREA AND WILL NOT IMPOSE AN EXCESSIVE BURDEN ON HAVE SUBSTANTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACT ON SURROUNDING OR ADJACENT USES OR COMMUNITIES OR SERVICES.
IT IS LISTED AS A SPECIAL USE IN THIS DISTRICT WHICH IT'S PROPOSED TO BE LOCATE AND IT WILL COMPLY WITH ALL THE REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS OF ARTICLE TWO AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WITH REGARD TO THE SPECIFICS IN SECTION 2038 IT DOES MEET THE CRITERIA OUTLINED.
THE PROPERTY IS SUFFICIENT TO ATHROW STRUCTURE TO MEET ALL YARD AREA AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE AS IF IT WERE ON AN INDIVIDUAL AND SEPARATE LOT AND 28 MEET THE UTILITY REQUIREMENTS TOTAL DENSITY AS LISTED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
STAFF HAS RECEIVED NO CORRESPONDENCE OR PHONE CALLS REGARDING THIS APPLICATION. STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMP PLAN AND CODE AND YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDED WITH EIGHT FINDINGS AND TEN CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL OR 7 FINDINGS FOR DENIAL.
YOUR FIRST CONDITION HAS BEEN LISTED AS BEING NONTRANSFERABLE.
IT WOULD BE AT THE AGENCY'S PURVIEW THE MAKE IT TRANSFERABLE IF YOU CHOSE. I HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF THE PROPERTY IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN SEEING THEM.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DID A SITE PLAN OR SITE VISIT F. YOU ARE INTERESTED I DO HAVE PHOTOS AVAILABLE AS WELL.
>> ARE THOSE THE ONES THAT WERE PART OF THE --
>> THE ONES IN THE STAFF REPORT WERE PROVIDE BID APPLICANTS.
THIS IS THE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING HOME AND THE DRIVE OFF OF FRUIT COVE ROAD. THIS IS FROM THE BACK OF THE YARD WHICH IS NEAR WHERE THE MOBILE HOME WOULD BE PLACED.
THIS IS LOOKING BACK OFF OF THE STREET.
THERE IS A PRIVATE DRIVE THAT GOES DOWN THIS AREA.
AND THIS IS LOOKING THAT THE POLE BARN TYPE STRUCTURE I REFERENCED THAT IS IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
THE MOBILE HOME WOULD BE TO THE LEFT OF THIS AREA.
AND THIS IS THE AREA WHERE THE PROPOSED MOBILE HOME WILL BE.
THIS IS THE ACCESS I SPOKE OF OFF OF THE DIRT ROAD WITH A GATE FOR PRIVACY AND ACCESS. AND WITH THAT I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO AVAILABLE.
>> THANK YOU. >> DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
>> [INAUDIBLE] WHAT HAPPENS IF THE PARENTS EXPIRE BEFORE THE SON? DOES HE MOVE?
>> NO NOT NECESSARILY WOULD HE BE MEANT TO MOVE.
>> DOES HE HAVE A RIGHT -- NOT WHETHER HE MOVES SO MUCH.
>> THE SPECIAL USE IS MORE FOR THE PROPOSED MOBILE HOME.
THE TRANSFERABILITY WOULD BE IF THE PROPERTY IS SOLD, THEN IF THEY WANTED TO UTILIZE THAT AS A SECOND MAIN USE, THEY WOULD HAVE
TO REAPPLY BEFORE THIS AGENCY. >> THANK YOU.
COULD WE HAVE IS THE APPLICANT STEP FORWARD PLEASE? IS THERE AN APPLICANT FOR THIS ITEM? PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT PRESENTATION.
>> JUSTIN HOWARD. IT'S 1447 FRUIT COVE ROAD NORTH
JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, 32259. >> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD
TO THE PRESENTATION? >> NOT REALLY.
>> SHE CAUGHT EVERYTHING IN. >> YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
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>> ARE YOU THE PARENT IS THIS. >> SON.
>> [INAUDIBLE] RS ZONING DISTRICT AND SPECIFICALLY LOCATED AT 1447 FRUIT COVE ROAD NORTH SUBJECT TO THE TEN CONDITIONS AND EIGHT FINDINGS THE EXCEPTION AS
PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> I SECOND MOTION.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. >> JUST TO CLARIFY THAT
SPARTANBURG. >> WILL NOT BE TRANSFERABLE.
>> NO CHANGES TO ANY OF THAT CORRECT?
>> ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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ITEM NUMBER TWO. >> PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO REZONING 201914 DR. OSBORNE FAMILY.
IS THERE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE 2.88 ACRES OF LAND FROM COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY AND SMALL SECTION OF OPEN RURAL TO OPEN RURAL WITH CONDITIONS. PROPERTY IS FUTURE LAND USE MAP SHOWS THE AREA RESIDENTIAL C ADJACENT TO CONSERVATION LAND TO THE SOUTH AND EAST AND OUR ZONING MAP SHOWS THE CURRENT COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY TOURIST ADJACENT TO SOME OPEN RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND A SMALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL LOT.
LASTLY AN AERIAL MAP OF THE VACANT PROPERTY.
AGAIN IT'S A REQUEST TO REZONE 2.88 ACRES TO OPEN RURAL AND ORDER TO DEVELOP A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
SMALL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED OPEN RURAL WITH THE RESTRICTION OF NO MOBILE HOMES.
THE PROPERTY ABUTS SEVERAL OTHER SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AS WELL A WOODED PORTION OF A PARCEL. STAFF REVIEW THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING AND INTENDED USE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME APPEARS TO BE CONSISTENT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND USE OF RESIDENTIAL C. SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE ONLY PERMITTED AS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS. THE APPLICANTS PROPOSAL OF A SINGLE FAMILY IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT AND OPEN RURAL ZONE AGO AMONG OTHER USES OPEN RULE LOUS AGRICULTURE AND OUTDOOR PASSIVE.
STAFF RECEIVED NO LETTERS OF CORRESPONDENCE AND ONE PHONE CALL OF INQUIRY ABOUT THE REZONING APPLICATION.
AND STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF REZONING 201914.
WE FIND THE REQUEST TO SUBSTANTIALLY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMP PLAN AND APPEARS TO MEET THE INTENT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. I PROVIDED FOUR FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL; FOUR FINDINGS FOR DENIAL.
I'M HOPE OPEN THE ANY QUESTIONS. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS
PRESENT AS WELL. >> ANY QUESTIONS?
WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT STEP FORWARD.
FAMILIAR FACE TO THIS ROOM. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS JAMES WHITE HOUSE.
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I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE ON BEHALF OF DR. OSBOURNE AND HIS FAMILY ASKING TO REZONE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.MANY OF US WHO DRIVE UP U.S. ONE HAVE LOOKED ON THE PROPERTIES ON BOTH SIDES. FOR MYSELF I LOOKED AND THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO HAVE A HOUSE OVERLOOKING THE THIS PARTICULAR LOT ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THOSE BLUFFS WAS ZONED CHT WAY BACK WHEN. I THINK PART OF IT WAS BECAUSE PART OF THIS AREA WAS MORE OF A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR COMING THROUGH AREA ALONG THE CREEK. IN ANY CASE, THEY SAW THIS DR. OSBOURNE AND HIS FAMILY SAW THIS PROPERTY AND THOUGHT IT WAS A NICE PIECE OF LAND THAT BECAME AVAILABLE TO HAVE OUR FAMILY HOME ON. IT'S A LARGE PIECE OF LAND, 2.8.
THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST MEETS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THEY WANT TO DO THEIR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE BELIEVE THAT OPEN RURAL BEFORE WE CAME AND MADE APPLICATION, WE MET WITH THE PLANNING STAFF AND OPEN RURAL WAS ONE OF THE OPTIONS TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL USE THAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEIR FAMILY.
IT ALLOWS SINCE IT'S SUCH A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY OPEN RURAL IS MOST APPROPRIATE. I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE FACT BUT I'M HERE THE ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> I VISITED THE SITE. >> DO WE HAVE NIGHEST.
>> I SEE NONE. >> DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER
CARDS? >> IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION, I WOULD OFFER A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING 201-14 DR. OSBOURNE FAMILY REZONING SUBJECT TO THE FOUR
CONDITIONS -- FINDINGS. >> WE HAVE A MOTION.
WE HAVE SEVERAL SECONDS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS.
AND NUMBER THREE. >> HOW ARE YOU TODAY?
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>> I'M WELL THANK YOU. THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE AGENCY.
I'M JUSTIN KELLY WITH BREATH MANAGEMENT.
I'LL BE PRESENTING ITEM NUMBER 3.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE 6.6N RURAL THE COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE.
THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF TO BEES ROAD AND KINGS ESTATE ROAD.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF MIXED USE AND IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED OPEN RURAL.
AS MENTIONED THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE 6.65 ACRES TO COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE WHICH WOULD ALLOW COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES. APPLICATION MATERIALS STATE HAD DISTRICT WOULD PROVIDE THE OWN WE ARE THE INCREASED FLEXIBILITY RANGES THAT ARE OTHERWISE LIMITED IN IW ZONING.
REVIEW BY STAFF SHOWS THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONSISTS OF TWO SEPARATE LOTS. THE EAST PARCEL IS 4.5 ACRES THAT ABUTS THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAY.
THE WEST PARCEL IS 1.88 ACRES AND BOTH PARCELS ARE HEAVILY TREED AND CURRENTLY VACANT. REZONING WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE MIXED USE DESIGNATION. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS THE LAST REMAINING PORTION OF LAND ZONED OPEN RURAL ALONG THIS EASTERN SECTION OF TO BEES ROAD. PROVIDEDSHIRE TABLE SHOWING THE TYPES OF USE CATEGORIES THAT ARE PERMITTED WITH CW ZONING.
THIS REQUEST WOULD PERMIT THE TYPES OF USES PROPOSED WITHIN THE APPLICATION MATERIALS. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN AN AREA WHERE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES ARE CONCENTRATED. THE PROPOSED REZONING WOULD ELIMINATE ONE OF THE MORE INTENSE USE WHICH IS IS MINING EXTRACTION. PROSIDED ON THIS SLIDE COMPATIBLE MAP SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. A LARGE MAJORITY OF LAND TO THE NORTH IS ZONED TO ALLOW THE TYPES OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USES THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED AS PART OF
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THIS Q. STAFF RECEIVED ONE PHONE CALL REGARDING THIS REQUEST.THE CALL WAS INFORMATIONAL IN NATURE AND NO OBJECTIONS TO THE PROPOSED REZONING. STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMP PLAN AND PROVIDED THE AGENCY WITH FOUR FINDINGS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL. THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT WITH THEIR OWN PRESENTATION AND STAFF WILL STAND BY.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. REPRESENTATIVE FOR HERITAGE DEVELOPMENT GROUP. I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY.
THIS I'LL BREEZE THROUGH IT. I DO HAVE SLIDES IN CASE WE HAVE QUESTIONS AS IT MOVES ALONG. AS MENTIONED IT IS 6.65 ACRES LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF DOBBS ROAD AND KINGS ESTATE ROADISM PUT THIS IN TO GIVE YOU A BROADER OVERVIEW OF THE GENERAL AREA AND HOW DEVELOPED IT IS.
THIS GETS A LITTLE CLOSER, KIND OF SHOWS YOU A LITTLE MORE OF WHAT IS GOING ON AT THE INTERSECTION HERE.
THE IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT MAKES SENSE IN A FEW MINUTES AS WE GO.
DEFINITELY WHERE THE RAILROAD RUNS ACROSS, DOBBS ROAD AND KINGS ESTATE ROAD. JUST TO GET A LITTLE CLOSER, THE FRONTAGE ON DOBBS ROAD, IT'S ABOUT 600 FEET ON DOBBS ROAD AND A LITTLE OVER 500 ALONG KINGS ESTATE ROAD.
IT CRUZ INDUSTRIAL USE TO THE NORTH.
ROBERT MARTIAL HAS A PLACE THERE.
I REMEMBER BEING HERE FOR THE ZONING FOR THAT ONE.
THE RAILROAD TO THE EAST AND RESIDENTIAL CORNER OF RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION HERE AND SOME OPEN RURAL TYPE PROPERTY AS LONG HERE. ACROSS FROM IT IS INDUSTRIAL USE AS WELL. AND THEN THERE IS TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE ON THESE. AND TO THE SOUTH IS BASICALLY VERY LITTLE DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS A CHURCH IN HERE.
UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES A DISTANCE AWAY.
JUST BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WENT INTO THIS DRAINAGE FACILITY. IT'S FULLY WITHIN THE MIXED USE DISTRICT. THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU THE ZONING AND AS WE COME DOWN DOBBS ROAD ROAD SHOWS YOU IT IS AN INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR. THAT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO BE ABLE TO SEE THERE ARE CONDITIONS ON SOME OF THE IW TYPE THINGS. I INCLUDED A COPY OF THE SURVEY.
JUST TO SHOW THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE PROPERTY TO KINGS ROAD.
AND TO DOBBS ROAD AND KINGS ROAD.
I DID A TURN ON THIS ONE TO SHOW IT CLOSER.
THERE IS QUITE A SUBSTANTIAL IF YOU WENT OUT ON A SITE VISIT YOU SAW SUBSTANTIAL DRAINAGE EASE. THAT COMES ACROSS HERE AND DRAINAGE THAT GOES TO THE SOUTH BEYOND KINGS ESTATE ROAD TO ALL OF THAT DRAINAGE FACILITY. IN ESSENCE THAT DOES CREATE ADDITIONAL SETBACKS FOR THIS PROPERTY TOO WHICH HELP FOR ANYTHING ALONG EITHER OF THOSE TWO ROADWAYS.
THAT IS JUST A LITTLE CLOSER. IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING. I DID DO A DIAGRAM THAT SHOWED DISTANCES. IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THAT ONE.
WE'LL GO TO THIS ONE. BASICALLY TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT DISTANCES WERE RELATED.
THE CLOSEST ONE WOULD BE THIS WHICH ACROSS THE RAILROAD IS ABOUT 170. AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER 85 WHEN YOU GET TO THE ACTUAL BACK OF THE HOUSE ITSELF.
AND HERE YOU HAVE GOT ABOUT 140 ACROSS THE RAILROAD PLUS ANOTHER 65 AROUND 200. THE ONES ON THE OTHER SIDE DEFINITELY ARE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
BUT AS MENTIONED THERE ARE OVER 100 FEET AND WIDTH FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY AND ANOTHER 30 FEET FOR THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT SO THAT HELPS. THEN I THOUGHT I'D PROVIDE A FEW PICTURES. THAT IS THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT FROM THE NORTH LOOKING SOUTH AT THE KINGS ESTATE INTERSECTION.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH AND THAT IS DOBBS ROAD ROAD AND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ALONG THERE. AND THIS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS ON THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THIS SITE.
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IT IS KIND OF THE SAME KIND OF FLEX TYPE SPACE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THESE ARE WITH THE HOMES.THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANT GARAGES AND THEY DO HAVE SIGNIFICANT BUFFERING AND THEY ARE ALL FENCED AND GATED.
AND ON TO THE NEXT ONE, IT IS AS WELL AND THAT ISEN THETON CORNER OF BOTH ROADS. THIS IS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW IT RELATES TO THE RAILROAD TRACK.
KIND OF DISTANCES CROSSING AT KINGS ESTATE ROAD.
AND THE NEXT ONE GIVES YOU ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT AS IT COMES AROUND EVEN ON THAT PARTICULAR SIDE.
AND THIS ONE -- WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA. ADJACENT LAND USES WOULD BE DEEMED COMPATIBLE. SEEMS LIKE A LOGICAL EXTENSION OF THE ESTABLISHED INDUSTRIAL AREA ALONG DOBBS ROAD AND IT'S COMPATIBLE EITHER THROUGH SIMILAR USE WHICH WOULD BE THE NORTH AND NORTHWEST OR AS A RESULT OF DISTANCE AND TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES INCLUDING THE RAILROAD TO THE EAST AND DOBBS ROAD TO THE SOUTH AS LONG AS PLUS THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT. AND THISTH CW AND I THINK WE WENT THROUGH THIS ON ONE OF THE LAST ONES, BASICALLY COMBINES COMMERCIAL INTENTS AND ALLOWS MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT CAN GO IN RATHER THAN JUST THE INDUSTRIAL.
IT'S ACTUALLY VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THIS TYPE OF AREA AND WE'VE USED THIS QUITE A BIT LATELY. IT WILL MEET ALL THE BUFFERING STANDARDS. IT'S CONSISTENT THE COMP PLAN AND CONSISTENT THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND WE WOULD LIKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
APPLICANT? >> I LIKE THE IDEA OF THIS BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE A CLARIFICATION.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CW AND IW.
WHY CHOOSE CW WHEN THE AREA TO THE NORTH IS ENTIRELY IW?
>> CS A FAIRLY NEW DESIGNATION. AND BASICALLY IT'S A HYBRID BETWEEN COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WHICH IS IW.
AND SO IT ALLOWS KIND OF ADDITIONAL THINGS LIKE YOU CAN PUT KARATE STUDIOS IN AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS.
INDUSTRIAL MORE MANUFACTURING AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FLEX SPACE, IT HELPS FRAY BUSINESS STANDPOINT. AND IT ONLY ALLOWS THE INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL USES, IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO THAT.
I'VE GOT PLENTY OF THINGS OUT OF THE CODE OR YOU MAY WANT TO REFER TO STAFF IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.
IT'S A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THE COUNTY ENDED UP ADOPTING IT AS AN OPTION WE CAN USE.
>> DOES IT ALLOW INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COURSE OR
HARSH OR INDUSTRIALIZED THAN IW? >> NO.
>> IT DOES ALLOW THE COMMERCIAL USES AND SOME OF THOSE YOU MIGHT THINK THAT WAY. ALSO THE BUFFER STANDARDS FOR THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT LESS. IT DOESN'T INEES THAT.
>> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
WHEN YOU DEVELOP THE SITE AND ACCESS IT, IS THERE A CULVERT YOU PUT IN JUST TO SPAN THE RETENTION OR DRAINAGE SWELL?
>> I'M ASSUMING SO. THERE WILL BE QUITE THE THING.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY USERS IN MIND FOR HAD PROPERTY YET?
>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. >> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? >> I SEE NONE.
THANK YOU. >> ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS?
WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY. >> I THINK THIS IS A COMPATIBLE.
IT'S ALREADY A MIXED USE DISTRICT.
IT'S ALREADY AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. I THINK THAT COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE DESIGNATION PROVIDES MORE FLEX ABOUT THIS IS NOT INCONSISTENT WHAT IS ALREADY EXISTING.
I'D BE HAPPY TO OFFER A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF
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REZONING 2019-15 HERITAGE DEVELOPMENT BASEND TO FOURFINDINGS. >> WE HAVE A MOTION E MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> MOTION AND SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. >> ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
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>> THIS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS THE PUD FOR THE SWITZERLAND ANIMAL HOSPITAL. THIS SITE LOCATED ON STATE ROAD 13 NORTH. IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE INTERSECTION WITH ROBERTS ROAD. YOU CAN SEE IT'S SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL ONLY DIFFERENCE IS IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER THERE IS A STORE WITH GAS PUMPS. TO SHOW THE ZONING IT ILLUSTRATES WHAT I JUST SAID. THE CURRENT REQUEST IS TO ALLOW 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING AREA.
7,000 WOULD BE NEW TWO STRUCTURES.
THAT WOULD INCLUDE RENOVATIONS TO THE EXISTING HOSPITAL.
SITE ACCESS WOULD REMAIN IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION ON STATE ROAD 13 RAND THEY WOULD BE PROVIDING 150-FOOT SET BACK AND THAT'S TO HONOR THE SEENIC HIGHWAY THERE. A MINIMUM OF 75 FEET OF AGE LONG THAT SAME AREA. THEY INTEND TO KEEP THAT IN IT'S ORIGINAL LOCATION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
>> THE SCENIC EDGE IS ALONG HERE BUT IT EXTENDS ALONG BOTH SIDES FURTHER INTO THE SITE. HERE IS THE 150-FOOT BUILDING SET BACK. THE EXISTING ANIMAL HOSPITAL IS ON THE NORTH. THEY'VE REQUESTED ONE WAIVER AND THAT IS TO ALLOW THEM TO RETAIN THE EXISTING BUILDING WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY LOCATED WHICH IS 15 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
THE USES WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE VET CLINIC AND OFFICE, MEDICAL CLINIC AND OFFICE, DENTAL CLINIC AND OFFICE.
PROFESSIONAL OFFICES AND PHARMACIES WITHOUT DRIVE THROUGH. THIS WOULD BE ANCILLARY TO THE MEDICAL OFFICES AND THEY ALSO HAVE INCLUDED ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS. THE ADDITION OR THE CHANGE TO A PUD WOULD ONLY ADD THE OFFICE OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AS SHOWN
IN THIS. >> THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE TYPICAL. THE ONE CAVEAT IS THEIR HEIGHT IS LIMITED TO 35 FEET AS A SINGLE STORY STRUCTURE.
IN TERMS OF COMPATIBILITY WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS EXISTING SITE WITH DEVELOPMENT EDGES SURROUNDEDLY BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. TO THE WEST.
AS WELL AS TO THE EAST. AND THE COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY TOURIST USE TO THE SOUTHEAST. STAFF RECEIVED SEVERAL PHONE CALLS WITH INQUIRIES AND THAT WAS AROUND THE TIME OF THE FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING WHICH HAPPENED A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO.
PROBABLY BACK IN MAY. WE RECEIVED SEVERAL EMAIL MESSAGES, ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET. IT DID HOLD TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND BOTH OF THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS WERE PRECEDED BY TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. THE APPLICATION WAS AMENDED AFTER THE FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING IN WHICH THEY REDUCED THE TOTAL BUILDING AREA FROM 14,000 SQUARE FEET 10,000 SQUARE FEET. REDUCED THE NUMBER OF BUILDING TO TWO, LIMITED IT TO SINGLE STORY, AND THEY EXPANDED THE LANGUAGE IN THE TEXT NOTING THAT THEY WOULD MEET OR EXCEED CODE FOR LIGHTING. STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT THE
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APPROVAL OF THIS PUD FINDING IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USE DESIGNATION AND SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMP PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.WE'VE PROVIDED NINE FINDINGS OF FACTS.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. [INAUDIBLE]
. >> WE WERE ASKING WHAT WE HAD GOING ON ON THE DOCKET TODAY. WHEN I BROUGHT UP SWITZERLAND ANIMAL HOSPITAL SHE GOES YOU GUYS ARE STILL WORKING ON THAT THING? IT'S BEEN QUITE THE JOURNEY.
I WANT TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO ADD ON TO THE STAFF REPORT.
>> YOU KNOW SITE LOCATION. IT'S ON THE SCENIC CORRIDOR.
THERE IS THE ZONING ALL THE WAY AROUND.
WE HAVE A TWO ACRE SITE. THERE IS THE AERIAL.
THIS IS THE ENTRYWAY. IT IS AT INTERSECTION THAT HAS TRAFFIC LIGHTS ON ALL FOUR CORNERS.
THERE IS GAS STATION ACROSS THE STREET.
WE HAVE OUR ACCESS LUCKILY WITH A TRAFFIC LIGHT.
IT'S EXISTED FOR A WHILE. WE HAVE A DEDICATED TURN LANE TO THE NORTH. YOU CAN SEE THE SIGN THERE.
THE EXISTING FACILITIES TUCKED IN THE BACK.
AND THE NATURAL ROAD GOING INTO N TO THE BACK WITH THE PARKING.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES BACK THERE THAT SURROUND THE PROPERTY. I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE HISTORY OF THIS SITE. IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY THE ZONING EXCEPTION IN 184 AND BUILT IN 1985.
THERE WERE TIMES IN THE 2,000S. THERE WAS A DRASTIC NEED FOR EXPANSION. 2017 WE WENT THROUGH MORE CONCEPTS WITH THE ARCHITECT. THERE IS AN ARCHITECT OUT OF BOULDER CALLED ANIMAL ARTS AND THEY ARE SPECIFIC TO CLINICS AND ANIMAL HOSPITALS AND THEY ARE THE ARCHITECT ON THIS PROJECT.
IT IS SPECIFIC TO THIS SITE. WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND REZONING.
WE APPLIED FOR A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TO HAVE THIS.
AND IT WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AFTER IT WAS SUBMITTED.
SHANNON IT WAS PLANNER BACK THEN.
MET WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND IT WAS DETERMINED WE DIDN'T NEED A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT WHICH WAS GREAT.
THEN WE SPUN OUR WHEELS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS WHILE THAT WAS IN REVIEW. WE CAME BACK FOR A PURE REZONING FOR PUD. IN THE SPRING OF 2018, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE WE MET WITH RIVER OBSERVATION PLANTATION HAD IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND THIS SITE.
AND WE DISCUSSED WITH THEM PRIOR THE SUBMITTING OUR APPLICATION.
SUBSEQUENTLY IN THE SUMMER WE SUBMITTED APPLICATION FOR REZONING. AND THEN BACK IN MAY OF 2019 WE HAD OUR FIRST OFFICIALLY NOTICED PUBLIC MEETING.
AND THEN YOU SEE THE DATES. AUGUST 1 WE HAD AN ADDITIONAL MEETING. HERE IS THE ORIGINAL SURVEY.
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THIS WAS RECERTIFIED IN 184. NO HOMES AROUND IT.ANIMAL HOSPITAL WAS THERE. AND THE CONSTRUCTION TOOK PLACE AFTER THE ZONING EXCEPTION WAS APPROVED.
HERE IS I IT IS 14.9 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY EDGE.
THIS IS 184 CODE. THERE WAS NOTHING THERE ADJACENT TO US. PREVIOUSLY.
THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN -- BY 1600 SQUARE FEET ROUGHLY AND TWO NEW BUILDING. THOSE NEW BUILDINGS ALWAYS OUR INTENTIONS WERE TO HAVE A VERY COMMUNITY OR RENTED COMMERCIAL PROFESSIONAL OFFICES AND THEN MEDICAL.
MAYBE A CHIROPRACTOR OR MAYBE A REALTOR.
LOW INTENSE COMMERCIAL. ALL CONSISTENT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PER THE POLICIES IN THE COMP PLAN.
THIS WAS OUR INITIAL PLUSHER PUSH AND INITIAL PRESENTATION TO THE RIVER OBSERVATION RESIDENTS. AFTER SEVERAL MEETINGS AND ITERATIONS OF THIS. WE COMPROMISED ON HAVING JUST ONE BUILDING. CURRENT ANIMAL HOSPITAL THERE.
WHICH WILL GET REPURPOSED. IT COULD BE A PHYSICIAN, A CLINIC WORKER. IT COULD BE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, ARCHITECT, GRAPHIC ARTIST AND THEN THE NEW BUILDING SINGLE STORY RESIDENTIAL SCALE WITH THE PARKING LOT COMING IN.
WE'LL MAINTAIN EVERYTHING THE WAY IT IS.
THERE IS THE 150 SETBACK LINE. THAT IS A SELF-IMPOSED SETBACK LINE. THE ORIGINAL EXCEPTION HAD A 20.
AND WORKING WITH THE COUNTY WE THOUGHT 150 FEET WAS MORE THAN PALATABLE. THAT ALLOWED TO US PUSH THE BUILDING FORWARD A LITTLE BIT AND GET ATE WAY FROM THE EDGE.
MET WITH A LOT OF RESISTANCE AND OPPOSITION.
WE HAD A WAIVER FOR. THAT WE KNOLLED BACK.
CONSOLIDATED THE TWO BUILDINGS INTO ONE AND MAINTAINED THE INTEGRITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE PER THE CODE WHICH IS 35 FEET. THE ONLY WAIVER WE'RE ASKING FOR IS WE CAN'T PICK UP THE EXISTING ANIMAL HOSPITAL AND MOVE IT.
WE'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER TO MAINTAIN ANYTIME ITS CURRENT POSITION. THESE HOUSES ARE RIVER OBSERVATION PLANTATION. THEY WERE ALL BUILT STARTING AROUND 1996 UP TO 2000. THE DUMPSTER PAD WAS GOING TO BE RELOCATED. WE HAD 5 PARKING SPACES.
WE HAD TWO WAIVERS AND 200-FOOT SETBACK PER THE ORIGINAL EXCEPTION. THE CURRENT MDP WHICH WE FEEL HAS BEEN ACCEPTD BY THE RESIDENTS.
I'LL LET THEM SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
WE'VE HAD FOUR DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
AND WE FELT LIKE THE LAST SEVERAL MEETINGS WERE VERY GOOD IN TERMS OF CONSENSUS BUILDING AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE WERE ASKING FOR WITH THE REVISIONS. WE HAVE ONE NEW BUILDING ON.
10,000 SQUARE FOOT. WE MAINTAIN THE CODE REQUIRED SETBACKS OF 35 FEET. THE DUMPSTER PAD WILL STAY IN THE GENERAL SAME PLACE WHERE IT ALWAYS EXISTED FOR THE ANIMAL HOSPITAL. WE REDUCED OUR PARKING COUNT FROM 55 TO 47. WE ARE ONLY ASKING FOR ONE
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WAIVER AND THAT'S FOR THE EXISTING VET OFFICE.WE INCLUDED AND I GOT AN OPINION FROM STUFF.
THEY ASKED IF WE COULDFULLY PROHIBITING USES FOR HAVE A AND CBD. THAT'S THERE PROHIBITING THOSE TYPES OF USES. ANY SALES, MANUFACTURING, DISTRIBUTION OF E-CIGARETTE, CBD HAVE A PRODUCTS ARE NOT ALLOWED.
THIS NEW REVISION TO THE MDP ALLOWS FOR -- I'LL PUT IT UP HERE IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ZOOM IN.
THIS IS DEPICTING THE TYPE OF THEME AND CHARACTER AND SCALE AND MASSING OF THE PRODUCT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
THE EXISTING ANIMAL HOSPITAL. THIS IS WHEN THERE WAS MULTIPLE BUILDINGS. SO THIS SHOWS ONE BUILDING THERE, THE EXISTING VET. THESE WOULD APPROXIMATE COMBINED INTO ONE. IT MAINTAINS THE LOOK.
RESIDENTIAL SCALE, RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER IN STYLE.
VERY COMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT USES.
BUT YOU CAN SEE IN HERE THIS WOULD BE ADAPTED FOR -- THEY WOULD RELOCATE THE HOSPITAL INTO THIS NEW BUILDING.
AND THEN POSSIBLY SUBLET OUT SOME SPACE.
AND THEN SUBLET OUT AND REPURPOSE THE EXISTING VET OFFICE. AGAIN FOR ANY OF THE USES LISTED IN FROM THERE, PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL OFFICE, LOW INTENSE, NOTHING LIKE A GAS STATION, CAR WASH, SOME QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP, CVS PHARMACY, THEY WOULD NOT GO THERE.
WHILE THEY CALL IT CVS FOOD AND DRUG, YOU KNOW PHARMACY IN THE FAR BACK AND THEY NEED A DRIVE THROUGH.
DRIVE THROUGHS ARE PROHIBITED ON THIS PROPERTY.
WE CAN DO A PHARMACY IF IT'S A COMPOUNDING AND MUCH SMALLER SCALE BUT NO DRIVE THROUGH. YOU CAN'T SELL FOOD AND CHIPS AND ALL KIND OF STUFF WITH THAT. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
I KNOW RESWE'VE RECEIVED EMAILSE OF THE RESIDENTS THANKING US FOR SOME OF THE HARD WORK WE PUT IN. SOME OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY.
I'LL GIVE MY TIME UP TO THEM AND TO YOU FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
>> I SEE NONE AT THE MOMENT. BUT WE MIGHT.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS?
YES DOE. >> I LIVE AT 1177 MILL CREEK DRIVE ST. JONAH FLORIDA. 32259 AND I OWN -- MY HUSBAND AND I OWN THE PROPERTY THAT IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE ANIMAL HOSPITAL. I WAS ONE OF THE MAIN PEOPLE AGAINST THE PROPERTY WHEN THEY PLANNED TO DO THE FOUR STRUCTURES. AND I WROTE A LETTER TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING OR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS VOICING MY OBJECTION. THE DOCTOR HAS AND WEBSTER HAVE ADDRESSED EACH ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
ALTHOUGH I STILL WOULD RATHER KEEP THE PROPERTY IS WAY IT IS, IT'S NOT REALLY RATIONALLY ACCEPTABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE PROBLEMS THAT WOULD HAVE CAUSED.
BUT THEY HAVE REDUCED THOSE. AND SO DO I NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTION AT THIS POINT TO IS THE DOCTOR GOING AHEAD AND DOING THE MAJOR BUILDING OF 7,000 SQUARE FEET.
THEY ACCOMMODATED US WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE ASKED. SO I REALLY CAN'T OBJECTIVELY
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SAY THAT I HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT AT THIS POINT.I WOULD RATHER KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS BUT THAT'S NOT REASONABLE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER PUBLIC SPEAKER
>> I NEED TO ADD THERE ARE A COUPLE OF NOTES ON THE PLAN STAFF ASKED FOR AND WITHIN THE TEXT TO CLARIFY THE SCENIC EDGE IN THE FRONT AND ONE OTHER THING LIKE THAT THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WANT BUT WE WANT IT TO BE CLARIFIED.
APPLICANT HAS WRITTEN BACK THEY FULLY INTEND TO DO THAT AND THEY'VE ASKED TO WAIT UNTIL IT CAME BEFORE YOU IN CASE YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE FOR THEM TO CHANGE.
WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY THEN. ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS?
>> I LIKE THAT THIS IS A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION SO YOU ARE ADDING ANOTHER BUILDING POTENTIALLY TAKING IN MORE BUSINESS BUT YOU ARE NOT REALLY CREATING -- THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS GROWN IN THAT TIME THERE. IS MORE OF A DEMAND FOR THOSE SERVICES. I THINK THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH
I MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
>> I SECOND THE MOTION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. >> LAST BUT NOT LEAST.
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>> WE GOING TO HEAR THESE TOGETHER 5 AND 6?
>> BOTH ITEMS ARE TO BE HEARD TOGETHER.
YOU ONLY NEED IT FOR THE PUD PORTION BUT BOTH ITEMS WILL BE
PRESENTED TOGETHER. >> I NEED TO DECLARE.
I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH DOUG BAR NET EARLIER TODAY.
>> JUST TO CLARIFY IT WAS JUST GENERAL ABOUT THE PROJECT.
>> CORRECT. >> I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH DOUG BURNETT LAST EVENING. HE ASKED IF I HAD ANY QUESTIONS
OR OBJECTIONS TO THE PROPOSAL. >> NONETHELESS.
>> THESE ARE AGENDA ITEMS NUMBERS 5 AND 6:00.
IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
THIS IS THE ADOPTION HEARING AS WELL AS A PUD APPLICATION.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ON STATE ROAD 16A.
IT IS JUST WEST OF THE INTERSECTION COUNTY ROAD 16A AFTER THE INTERSECTION OF STATE ROAD 16 WHERE IT WILL TURN WEST AND THE SILVER LEAGUE PARKWAY. IT IS AN AGRICULTURE INTENSIVE FUTURE LAND USE WHICH IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL ■C ONE YOU GET OUTSIDE OF THE AREA TO THE NORTH AND EAST.
AND RESIDENTIAL B ACROSS THE STREET.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT NG A TEXT AMENDMENT WITH LIMIT DEVELOPMENT TO 125 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNITS.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 58 ACRES. 7 OF THOSE ACRES ARE WETLAND.
THE DENSITY WOULD BE TWO UNITS PER ACRE AND THIS DOES INCLUDE DENSITY BONUSES. THERE IS THE COMPANION REZONING APPLICATION. THIS SITE HAS PRIMARY ACCESS FROM 16A AND IT WOULD HAVE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON STATE ROAD 16 BETWEEN INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY TO THE EAST AND ALL THE WAY TO THE WEST MALL ENTRANCE. THERE ARE SOME FUNDING COMMITMENTS IN PLACE FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT STRETCH OF 16 LEAVING APPROXIMATELY TWO MILES OF THE ROAD THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNFUNDED. STAFF HAS WORKED WITH THIS
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APPLICANT OVER THE LAST YEAR AND I HALF OR SO TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVING COUNTY ROAD 16A GIVEN THE SMALL SIZE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.THE APPLICANT OFFERED ADDITIONAL PUBLIC BENEFIT INCLUDING 3.5 ACRES THAT COULD BE DEDICATED FOR A STORMWATER POND.
RIGHT OF WAY ON COUNTY ROAD 16A WHICH WOULD NOT BE PART OF THE FAIR SHARE OR IMPACT CREDIT AGREEMENTS.
AND THEY WOULD CONTRIBUTE A MINIMUM OF $600,000 TOWARDS THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT 16 AND SILVER PARKWAY.
RECREATION WATER SUE AROUND OPEN SPACE WOULD ALL MEET THE LEVEL OF SERVICE REQUIREMENTS, THEIR SUFFICIENT CAPACITY FOR SUE AROUND WATER IN THE SYSTEM AND THE SITE IS WITHIN FIVE MILES OF FIRE SERVICES FACILITY. REGARDING SCHOOLS THERE IS NO CAPACITY AVAILABLE THERE IN THE SERVICE AREA.
MITIGATION WOULD BE REQUIRED AND THAT WOULD APPROXIMATE REQUIRD THROUGH REVIEW. THE PROJECT IS IN AN AREA TRANSITIONING WITHIN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR FROM RURAL TO SUBURBAN. THEY ARE PART OF THE LARGE UNDEVELOPED AGRICULTURE INTENSIVE FUTURE LAND USE MAP ZONED OR. OUTSIDE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AREA. ON AUGUST 20 OF 201 THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION VOTED 4-1 IN FAVOR OF TRANSMITTING.
THERE WAS NO PUBLIC INPUT OR DISCUSSION THAT THE HEARING.
AND THE STATE AGENCIES HAVE SENT BACK LETTERS NO 90'S NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE ADOPTION. REGARDING THE PUD APPLICATION, THEY WOULD REZONE THIS 15 ACRES FROM OPEN RURAL THE PUD WITH 125 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, A SINGLE TEN YEAR PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT.
OF THE 7 ACRES OF WETLANDS 6.4 WOULD BE PRESERVED AND THEY WOULD PROVIDE 1.3 ACRES OF PARK AND RECREATION FACILITIES.
THIS IS THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP.
UNFORTUNATELY IN YOUR STAFF REPORTS I PROVIDED A PRIOR VERSION SO THIS WILL BE CORRECTED GOING FORWARD TO THE BOARD. THE CHANGE THAT WAS MADE IS THAT THE ORIGINAL ENTRANCE TO THE SITE USED TO BE VERY CLOSE TO THE EASTERN EDGE. AND THEY'VE MOVED IT FURTHER WEST TO ALIGN WITH THE ENTRANCE TO ARBOR MILL.
THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE VERY TYPICAL FOR PUD'S IN THE AREA. THEY HAVE REQUESTED FIVE WAIVERS. THE FIRST IS TO ATHROW SECOND FRONT YARD ON A CORNER LOT TO BE REDUCED BY 50% TO MAINTAIN A 20-FOOT SETBACK TO GARAGES AND ALLOW THE FRONT TO BE 15 FEET FROM THE FRONT YARD TO THE SIDE. AND TO ALLOW THEIR MAIN SIGN TO BE 20 FEET THIS HEIGHT. THEY WOULD STILL LIMIT THE ADVERTISING DISPLAY AREA TO 15 FEET AND THE REQUESTING INCREASE FROM 30 FEET TO 55 SQUARE FEET OF ADVERTISING DISPLAY AREA. THE FOURTH WAIVER IS TO ALLOW THEIR ACCESSORY MECHANICAL WOMENS, POOL COVERS TO BE WITHIN THREE FEET OF THE SET BACKS RATHER THAN THE FIVE REQUIRED.
AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR A MINIMUM SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BUILDING FOUNDATIONS OF 10 FEET AND TO FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE IN ORDER TO DO THAT. STAFF HAS RECEIVED ONE PHONE CALL AND TWO ITEMS OF CORRESPONDENCE SINCE IS THE TRANSMITTAL HEARINGS. THERE HAVE BEEN FOUR MEETINGS HELD OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. IF LAST TWO TEN PEOPLE PARTICIPATED. IF THE AGENCY FINDS THE PROJECT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SPECIFICALLY POLICIES A125 AND A127, STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO A RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 20166 PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS OF FACT TO SUPPORT THAT MOTION.
THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PUD IS STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE FINDING IS GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE GENIUS DESIGNATIONS. MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PROVIDED NINE FINDINGS OF FACT TO SUPPORT
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RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION AS WELL.
I GOT INFORMED IT WOULD BE 45 SECONDS IN LENGTH.
I'LL TRY TO GET IT CLOSE TO THAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
THANK YOU BRIEFLY. CHRIS IS HERE WITH ME TODAY WHO REPRESENTS THE OWNERSHIP INTEREST AND DEVELOPER OF THE PROJECT AND NEIGHBORING PROJECT. IT'S NICE TO BE HERE AT THIS POINT IN TIME COMING TO PZA FOR ADOPTION WHERE WE'VE BEEN TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR TRANSMITTAL SUCCESSFULLY OBTAINED A 4-1 VOTE ON TRANSMITTAL.
WE APPRECIATE THE HARD EFFORTS OF YOUR STAFF.
I DID IN PREPARATION FOR TODAY PULL A MORE RENT AERIAL SO WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE SILVER LEAF PARKWAY COMING DOWN THROUGH HERE AND THE ST. JOHN'S COMING DOWN IN THE FUTURE PATH OF IT.
MUCH OF THIS IS SLATED FOR DEVELOPMENT.
IN FACT IN THIS CORNER IS PENDING CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR A GROCERY STORE. FOR SILVER LEAF.
SOME OF THEM FAIRLY FAR ALONG AT THIS STAGE.
TAKING A LOOK AT OUR PROJECT. JUST IN GENERAL TO HIT HIGHLIGHTS. WE HAVE TWO MAIN CENTRAL POND AREAS. WE HAVE AWE PARK.
I'LL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THAT FORWARDS THE MIDDLE PART OF MY PRESENTATION. WE HAVE AWE LARGE AREA OF CONSERVATION AND IN THAT YELLOW SQUARE WHERE THE EXISTING CELL TOWER IS LOCATED. THE APPLICATION WAS ORIGINALLY FILED IN 2016. THERE IS WETLAND PRESERVATION.
WE AVOIDED ANY IMPACT TO THE CREEK AREA WHICH RUNS THROUGH THIS AREA. WE WILL HAVE A STAND ALONE HOA.
I'M PUTTING THIS ON THE RECORD A. CROSS THE STREET IS ARBOR MILL. THERE WAS THOUGHT THERE WOULD APPROXIMATE INNER CONNECTION AND THERE MAY BE A SHARED HOA.
MAKE SURE THAT I PUT ON THE RECORD TODAY WE ARE KEEPING THIS PROJECT SEPARATE. IT IS STAND ALONE FACILITIES.
IT WILL HAVE A SEPARATE HOA FROM ARBOR MILL.
PART OF THAT HAS MADE IT TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OPPOSITION HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE'VE MADE THAT COMMITMENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH THIS PROCESS. WE KNOW THAT WAS A CONCERN.
>> EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING. THIS IS NOT THE MOST CURRENT
SITE PLAN. >> I'M GOING TO GET THERE IN A SECOND. I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. IF YOU LOOK AT THE STAFF REPORT, ANAL OUT THERE, IS FOUR THINGS YOU LOOK AT.
DOES IT PROVIDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, JOB CREATION, PRESERVATION OF NATURAL ENVIRONMENT OR OTHER PUBLIC BENEFIT. IT'S THAT WORD OTHER.
IF YOU HIT ANY ONE OF THOSE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT COULD BE WARRANTED. WE'RE GOING TO COVER ALL FOUR OF THOSE. WE HAVE FROM THE BEGINNING.
WE HAVE ALL FOUR OF THOSE HERE IN THIS PROJECT.
I'LL TAKE THE FIRST TWO TOGETHER.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JOB CREATION.
SOME NUMBERS IMPACT FEE AS LOAN IS A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS.
ECONOMIC IMPACT YOU CAN SEE PRETTY BIG NUMBER DIRECT ONITE WORKERS 178. $19 MILLION TOTAL ECONOMIC IMPACTS. YOU LOOK AT MARKET NEEDS ANALYSIS FOR THIS AREA OF PROJECTS AND WHAT IS GOING ON.
LONG HISTORY OF PROJECTS ON STATE ROAD 16A.
ARBOR MILL. SALES AVERAGE 180,000.
ALMOST SOLD OUT. AND WARDS CREEK UNDER DEVELOPMENT NEXT DOOR AND MOST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN DONE. ALL THE SITE WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED THAT THE STAGE. THERE IS ONLY 10 MONTHS OF INVENTORY THERE. WE NEED THIS PROJECT TO COME ALONG AND BE READY SO WHEN WASHINGTON, CREEK IS COMPLETED THIS PROJECT IS THERE AND AVAILABLE.
YOU CAN SEE THIS RECENT AERIAL, YOU CAN SEE ALL OF ARBOR MILL AND HOW FEW HOMESITES ARE LEFT. YOU CAN SEE WARDS CREEK AND IT'S ONLY 67 LOTS. REPRESENTS ABOUT 10 MONTHS TO MAYBE 12 MONTHS OF INVENTORY. AND RED IS OUR SITE.
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GOING BEYOND THAT. PRESERVATION OF THE NATURAL REQUIREMENT IS THE THIRD CRITERIA OF WARRANTING A COMP PLAN. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SITE AND YOU PULL OUT OUR NDP MAP AND LOOK IN DETAIL OF WHAT IS THERE, WE HAVE CONTIGUOUS WETLAND AREA WITH PRESERVATION OF UP LANDS AND THEN WHERE THE CREEK AREA IS WE HAVE CON SERVED WETLAND CONSERVATION AREA. BOTH PLACES WE HAVE GOOD SIZE PRESERVATION OF NATURAL ENVIRONMENT ON THIS PROJECT.YOU COME DOWN TO OTHER PUBLIC BENEFIT.
THIS IS WHERE I THINK WE WON THE DAY LAST TIME BEING HERE IN FRONT OF YOU AND THIS CARRIED THROUGH TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. WHAT IS THE PUBLIC BENEFIT OF THIS PROJECT. THERE IS A FEW BIG BENEFITS HA COME FROM W THIS. FIRST IS A 54-FOOT RIGHT OF WAY DONATION AND A THREE AND A HALF FOOT POND SIDE CITE DONATION.
I USE THE WORD DONATION MINDFUL OF THOUSAND COMMISSION WANTS THAT WORD USED F. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A DONATION, YOU CAN'T BE GIVING SOMETHING AND HOLDING YOUR HAND OUT AT THE SAME TIME. WHAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION IS LOOKING FOR IF IT'S A DONATION IT'S A DONATION AND YOU ARE NOT SEEKING IMPACT FEE CREDITS FOR IT.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE HERE. THESE ARE TRUDEAU NATIONS.
THE RIGHT OF SWAY FOR THE WIDENING OF 16A IN THE FUTURE.
WE HAVE A POND SITE ALTHOUGH YOUR STAFF CAN'T REPRESENT THE YOU THAT POND SITE IS NEEDED FOR WIDENING.
THE ENGINEERS IN THE AUDIENCE RECOGNIZE IF YOU WIDEN THE ROAD WATER HAS GOT TO GO SOMEWHERE. YOU NEED PONDS.
ALTHOUGH THEY DON'T HAVE CONSTRUCTION PLANS THAT THE TIME, WE BELIEVE THAT IS SOMETHING AT THE END OF THE DAY THE COUNTY IS GOING TO WANT THAT DONATION OF THE 3.5 ACRES.
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DID SEND IT BACK.
APPROVE ON A 4-1 VOTE. WHAT CAME AS PART OF THAT WAS A LOOK AT ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT TO 16 WHERE IT GOES BETWEEN 16A.
AND WHAT WE COMMITTED TO AT THAT TIME WHICH CARRIED ON IS THAT THIS PROJECT WILL CONTRIBUTE A MINIMUM OF $600,000 TO THE COUNTY FOR ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. YOU MAY RECALL ON THIS PART WHEN FARM CAME UP AND COMMENTED ON THIS, THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE COUNTY IN THIS REGARD IS SIGNIFICANT FOR THE SIZE OF THIS PROJECT. I'LL SHOW THAT YOU IN A MOMENT.
THIS IS THE REAL INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT THAT IS OUT THERE.
SILVER LEAF IS GOING THE IMPROVE THE INTERSECTION.
WE HAVE THEIR PLANS THEY MIDTH TO THE COUNTY.
WHAT IS NEEDED IS TO WIDEN 16 TO FOUR LANE BACK TO ST. JAMIES AVENUE. THIS SECTION.
SO STAFF NEEDS MONEY FOR THAT AND COUNTY NEEDS MONEY FOR THAT AND THIS PROJECT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO.
THAT IF THE COUNTY DECIDES THEY WANT TO USE THE MONEY FROM SOMETHING ELSE WE WORDED THE TEXT SO THE COUNTY CAN USE THE MONEY FOR ANOTHER IMPROVEMENT SO THE COUNTY IS NOT TIED TO THAT IF SOMETHING BECOMES AVAILABLE THAT IS BETTER.
JULY 18 WHEN WE WERE HERE, WE GOT A 4-1 RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. AND STAFF RESPONDED TO A REQUEST REGARDING THE SIGNIFICANCE. THERE WAS NO PUBLIC COMMENT OR DISCUSSION AND HERE WE ARE ASUPERRIASSUMING THERE IS NOT GO BE ANY TODAY. TRAFFIC STUDY.
WE DID SUBMIT THAT. IT CONFIRMED WHAT WE ANTICIPATED. WE DID REVISE THE TEXT TO CLARIFY IT IS A DONATION. THERE ARE NOT GOING TO BE IMPACT FEE CREDITS ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. WE REVISED THE MDP MAP.
IT WILL SHOW YOU THIS IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.
YOU CAN SEE OUR ORIGINAL PLAN HAD THE ACCESS POINT IN THIS LOCATION. OTHERWISE THIS SITE UNCHANGED.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU HOW THIS IMPACTS.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE AERIAL, IF WE HAD A LEFT TURN LANE.
IT CONFLICTS OR POTENTIALLY CONFLICTS WITH THE LEFT TURN INTO EXISTING ARBOR MILL THAT THE LOCATION.
WE COULD WIND UP WITH A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE COMPETING LEFT CENTER TURNS. IT WORKSOUS NICELY FOR BOTH
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PROJECTS AND KEEPS THE FOLKS AT ARBOR MILL HAPPY.WE KNOW WHAT OUR PROPORTION OF FAIR SHARE CALCULATION IS GOING TO BE FOR THE SITE. 578,000 FOR TRAFFIC.
AGAIN WE COMMITTED TO PAYING MORE THAN WHAT OUR MINIMUM IS IN THE $600,000 NUMBER THAT WAS ALREADY IN THERE.
PENDING APPLICATIONS; OBVIOUSLY WITH YOU IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU. WE ALSO HAVE A TRAFFIC AND CURRENCY APPLICATION PENDING. ROAD CONSTRUCTION PERMIT IN THERE AND SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION PLANS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION PLANS WERE FILED IN SEPTEMBER. WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT AS IT'S BEING PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY.
JUST TO RECAP THE PUBLIC BENEFIT, NO IMPACT FEES BEING REQUESTED FOR THE TWO MAIN DONATIONS AND THIS CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS IMPROVEMENT THAT THE COUNTY REALLY NEEDS TO ACCOMPLISH. AGAIN ONE FINAL LOOK AT THE SITE
PLAN AS IT'S BEEN REVISED. >> [INAUDIBLE] YOU MADE A VALIANT EFFORT TO OVERCOME THE OBJECTIVES WE HAD PREVIOUSLY. NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
STILL THE SCHOOL CAPACITY IS AN ISSUE.
THE ROADWAY IS AN ISSUE. THE MONEY TO MAKE THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO OVERCOME THE PROBLEM IS STILL THERE. I WOULD ASK YOU SPECIFICALLY IF YOU WISH TO RESPOND TO THOSE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAD LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, THEY ARE THE VERY SAME PROBLEMS.
>> SPEAK IN TERMS OF ON THE TRAFFIC SIDE OF THINGS, AS YOU HEARD AND I KNOW YOU RECALL THIS.
MR. WYNN FROM THIS PART WHERE I'M STANDING RIGHT NOW COME UP AT YOUR LAST PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY HEARING ON THIS PROJECT AND COMMENT THAT THE CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS TRAFFIC IMPACTS IS SIGNIFICANT FOR THIS PROJECT AND A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE. I GUESS THAT'S THE BEST I CAN RESPOND TO YOU ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.
IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE SCHOOLS AND THE SCHOOL ISSUE, WE THINK AND THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE IS RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR SCHOOL CONCURRENCY.
BECAUSE THE WAY YOUR SYSTEM S WE CAN SUBMIT TRAFFIC CONCURRENCY AT THE MOMENT IN TIME WHEN IT'S TRANSMITTED.
WE CAN SUBMIT TO THE COUNTY AND KNOW AND SO THAT'S HOW WE GET TO THIS PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE NUMBER OF WHAT OUR TRAFFIC NUMBER IS AND WHAT LINKS ARE DEFICIENT.
ONCE THE COUNTY COMMISSION VOTES TO TRANCE ANYTIME AMENDMENT, WE CAN FILE A TRAFFIC APPLICATION. SCHOOLS WE CAN'T FILE THAT APPLICATION UNTIL THE POINT IN TIME WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ACTUALLY ADOPTED. SO THE BEST I CAN DO FOR YOU ON THE SCHOOLS IS TELL YOU WHERE WE'RE LOCATED AND WHAT THE SITUATION IS WITH THE SCHOOLS IN THAT LOCATION.
AND SO LET ME SKIP THROUGH THIS FOR A MINUTE AND I'LL SHOW YOU.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT RIGHT NOW AND I CAN SHOW YOU. I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE LINK SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THIS INFORMATION COMES FROM ON THE SCHOOL BOARD'S WEBSITE. MILL CREEK WHICH IS THE SCHOOL THIS WOULD BE IN HAS BEEN CONVERTED AND IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING CONVERTED TO AN ACADEMY.
MEANING K THROUGH 8. THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF ANALYSIS RELATED TO THIS SUBJECT. APPARENTLY THE ANALYSIS IS THAT
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PUTTING KIDS IN ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL TOGETHER IS A GOOD THING. AND ACTUALLY HELPS THE MIDDLE SCHOOLERS BECOME A LITTLE LESS AWKWARD.IT'S ALSO A GOOD THING BECAUSE YOU GET SCHOOLS CLOSER TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE. IF YOU LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL YOU DON'T LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
YOU LIVE NEXT DOOR TO ONE OR THE OTHER.
BY CONVERTING THE EXISTING ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS WHICH IS SLOWLY STARTING TO HAPPEN IN OUR COUNTRY AND MILL CREEK IS AN EXAMPLE OF THIS.
YOU GET THE SCHOOLS AND THESE AGE BRACTS CLOSE TO WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. NOW WHAT HAPPENED IS THEY'VE EXPANDED MILL CREEK. I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE GOT A CONCURRENCE SI APPLICATION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT SAYS THERE IS CAPACITY. BECAUSE WE CAN'T FILE IT YET.
BUT AS WE LOOK AT IT AND ANALYZE WHAT IS GOING ON, YOU CAN SEE WHERE MILL CREEK IS LOCATED AND THEY'VE EXPANDED THE SCHOOL PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY. THERE IS A TWO STORY CLASSROOM BUILDING ADDED ON THERE. IS A CAFETERIA ADDITION.
THERE IS A WHOLE NEW GYM. RELOCATED PLAY STRUCTURES.
IT'S A PRETTY EXPANDIVE THING. THIS IS CLOSE TO THE PROJECT.
AN INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS, ONE OF THE SCHOOLS WAS FUNDED THROUGH VOTER TAX. OTHER WAS THROUGH SALES TAX SCHOOL IMPACT FEES AND PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE MITIGATION FUNDS. A SIGNIFICANT PART WERE PAID BY THIS DEVELOPER PROPERTY OWN THEY'RE IS BEFORE YOU TODAY THROUGH ARBOR MILL ANDWARDS CREEK AND PREPARED TO DO IT AGAIN HERE. GOING BEYOND THAT, THEY ANTICIPATED TO PAY 1.5 MILLION IN SCHOOLS.
YOU SAY DOUG WE HAVE 125 LOTS IN THE AREA.
WHY DO WE WANT 125 LOTS THERE? IF WE'RE NOT GOING APPROVE MINORCAN MILL. WE'RE GOING TO HOPE THOSE GET DEVELOPED. ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, YOU NET MORE MONEY WITH THIS PROJECT. THAT'S THE INCREDIBLE THING ABOUT HOW THE WORKS WITH DEVELOPMENT.
YOU HAVE EXISTING LOTS THAT DIDN'T HAVE TO DO WHAT THIS PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO DO. SO YOU LOOK AT THE PROPOSED AMOUNT WITH MINORCAN MILLS, YOU GET 1.5 MILLION LUMP SUM PAYMENT WHEN WE START THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SUBDIVISION.
WITH THE OTHER 125 LOTS, YOU SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO MINE MINORCAN, YOU GET $458 PER HOUSE AS THEY ARE BUILT OVER THE NEXT HOWEVER MANY YEARS. YOU GET PAID AT THE BEGINNING, YOU GET PAID OVER YEARS. YOU PAY BEFORE THE FIRST SHOVEL IS IN THE GROUND WHICH ISTH INTERESTING THING ABOUT THAT IS WE HAVE 125 HOMES. WE'RE GOING TO PAY THE MONEY BEFORE THE 125 HOMES ARE BUILT AND THEN ABSORPTION IS GOING TO TAKE YEARS. HOWEVER LONG.
FOUR OR FIVE YEARS BEFORE IT GETS THERE.
BUT THE SCHOOL HAS THE MONEY ON THE FRONT END RATHER THAN AS THE HOMES ARE BUILT AND GETTING IT PIECE MILLED.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT JUST THE PURE FACT OF THE MATTER YOU GO TO THE TOP AND SAY UNDER YOUR AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL IT MIGHT COME IN AT $1.5 MILLION VERSUS THE IMPACT FEES.
THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS GOING TO COME OUT $600,000 AHEAD WITH A PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE AGREEMENT THAN THE 125 LOTS ALREADY EXISTING AND PROVED IN THE COUNTY.
THERE IS A BIG BENEFIT THERE I SUBMIT TO YOU.
AND THEN AGAIN WE GO BACK TO THIS OTHER PUBLIC BENEFIT HA COMES OUT OF THIS PROJECT. I DON'T KNOW THAT I EXACTLY ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION BUT THE BEST I CAN THAT THE STAGE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO FILE AN APPLICATION TO GET A RESPONSE BACK FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WE BELIEVE THERE IS CAPACITY IN THE K THROUGH 8 RANGE.
WE CAN'T FILE THAT APPLICATION AND GET THAT DETERMINATION.
THE LAST TIME WE GOT A LETTER FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON THIS PROJECT WAS OVER A YEAR AGO I BELIEVE.
>> THANK YOU. >> CAN WE TALK TO STAFF ABOUT TRAFFIC COUNTS AND CAPACITIES AND GENERALLY COSTS OF THE
IMPROVEMENTS THERE? >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
>> SO THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES TO BE 1277 WEEK-DAY TRIPS ON
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AVERAGE. THE FAILED LINK IS ESSENTIALLY DOWN 16 FROM WORLD GULF PARKWAY TO THE WEST MALL ENTRANCE WHEREIT FOUR LANES THAT THE POINT? >> CORRECT.
>> SOME OF THAT SILVER LEAF IS TAKING ON AND SOME OF THAT IS JUST SORT OF NOT BEEN FUNDED YET I GUESS.
>> RIGHT. >> STATE ROAD 16 THAT IS COMMITTED THROUGH GRAND OAKS PUD, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU REMEMBER THAT ONE. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO FOUR LANE.
THE COUNTY HAS A FUNDED PROJECT THAT STARTS AT THE INTERSECTION.
YOU'LL SEE THAT COME ONLINE FIRST.
AND THEN GRAND OBSERVATION WOULD PICK UP FROM THERE TO FOUR LANE TO THEIR EASTERN ENTRANCE AND THIS WOULD LEAVE ABOUT TWO MILES REMAINING TO THE WEST MALL ENTRANCE TOWARD I95 THAT HAS NOT BEEN COMMITTED OR FUNDED. WE ACTIVELY SEEK FUNDING FROM THE STATE DOT. AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT SOME OF THOSE FUNDS MIGHT BECOME AVAILABLE IN THE COMING YEARS AND WITH THE GRAND OBSERVATION PROJECT COMMITTED, WE CAN LEVERAGE THAT TO GET THE COMPLETE SEGMENT FINISHED IS THE
PLAN. >> WHAT IS ROUGHLY THE COST TO EXTEND THOSE LAST TWO MILES THAT ARE UNACCOUNTED FOR AT THE
WITHOUT A DESIGN THAT IS HARD TO PREDICT AND I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME. I WOULD PROJECT ROUGHLY $10 MILLION. THE GRAND OBSERVATION IMPROVEMENT WAS ABOUT THREE MILES AND THAT WAS ESTIMATED AT 15 MILLION. SO I'M BALLPARKING IT.
>> THANK YOU. I THINK I WAS THE DECENTER ON THE LAST. I THINK THIS APPLICANT HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF SHOWING THE BENEFITS.
SOME ARE CONSTRUCTION BENEFITS SHORT TERM AND NOT LONG TERM.
BUT I THINK THAT IS A GREAT EFFORT AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT.
DO I THINK HOWEVER THOUGH THAT THERE IS NOT THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THE ADDITIONAL 1277 TRIPS ON ROADS THAT ARE NOT -- THAT ARE OVERCAPACITY AND SCHOOLS ARE OVERCAPACITY THERE AS WELL.
IT'S MY EXPERIENCE YOU MAKE A SCHOOL AN ACADEMY ON A FUNDING ISSUE, NOT ON A STUDENT EDUCATION ISSUE.
IT'S CHEAP TORE DO THAT. MOSTLY INFRASTRUCTURE THERE, YOU ADD TO IT. AND I KNOW CHALLENGE IS ALWAYS MONEY WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD HERE.
I'M STILL NOT A BIG FAN OF. THIS I THINK YOU HAVE AND I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
YOU HAVE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ENTIGHT 8 LOTS WITHIN TWO MILES OF THIS PLACE. SILVER LEAF HAS 6,000.
AND SO I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR IT.
I SEE THE DESIRE FOR IT. BUT I DON'T SEE THE NEED FROM A
COUNTY PERSPECTIVE. >> FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, OUT OF THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE FOR A VOTE, THE FOUR VOTES, YOU WERE IN FAVOR OF IT. MR. WAINWRIGHT IT WAS DECENTING
VOTE. >> WOULD YOU RE♪ ♪ ♪ PGH.
>> TURN SOLE DECENTING VOTE PREVIOUSLY.
>> I'M NOT DOING FOR NIGH REASON THAN I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT
YOU SAID. >> IT WAS A 4-1 AND MR. WAINWRIGHT IT WAS DECENTING VOTE.
I'LL SHARE WITH YOU THIS, BACK UP ONE MOMENT.
IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE LOCATED, THE LINKS IMMEDIATELY ON BOTH SIDES OF OUR PROJECT ARE NOT FAILING.
THE LINK 91.2 IS ONE OF THE FIRST FOUR LANINGS AND PART OF 92.1 IS 92.1 HAS BEEN BROKEN INTO TWO SECTION.
PART OF 92.1 IS BEING FOUR LANED AS PART OF GRAND OBSERVATION.
91.2 IS THE EARLY FOUR LANING YOU'LL SEE.
GOING BACK TO THE ISSUE OF THE CONNECTION OF 16 AND 16A, THAT IS I THINK THE REAL MEAT OF THE BONES AS TO WHY WE GOT THE FAVORABLE COMMENT WE GOT AND THAT'S CONTINUED THROUGH IS THEY NEED MONEY FOR THE APPROACH BETWEEN THE KING AND THE BEAR AND 16, 16A INTERSECTION AND THAT IS NOT FUNDED BY THE COUNTY. THERE ARE NOT FUNDS FOR IT.
SILVER LEAF IS IMPROVING THAT INTERSECTION BUT THEY ARE NOT WIDE IT CAN ROAD GOING BACK TO KING AND THE BEAR.
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OUR PROPORTIONATE FUNDS COULD GO FORWARDS IMPROVEMENT.AND THAT WAS THE REAL NUT AND BOLT OF WHYENING TO SAID WHAT HE DID WHICH IS IT'S SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT FOR A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO CONTRIBUTE.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IN THERE.
AS FAR AS TRIP GENERATION, YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY TELL WITH THAT ROAD THAT'S BEEN BUILT THERE FOR SILVER LEAF WITH THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT THAT IS THERE, IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE OUR TRAFFIC AND YOU SEE THE DOTTED LINE IS GOING TO GO TO THE NORTH. HOW MUCH TRAFFIC OUT OF THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO EITHER GO TO THE NORTH, GO TO THE NORTH ON 16A, OR IS GOING TO COME DOWN AND PICK UP IGP RATHER THAN TAKE THESE TWO LINKS THAT ARE FAILING? IT'S NOT LIKE ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC IS GOING TO AND FROM ST. AUGUSTINE IS WHAT WE SUBMIT TO YOU.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY BEARS OUT AS WELL.
AND THE REAL QUESTION BEYOND THAT IS THIS AN AREA WHERE THE COUNTY WOULD ANTICIPATE DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH TO OCCUR AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. THIS SEAR WHERE DEVELOPMENT, GROWTH IS SLATED TO OCCUR WHEN YOU LOOK AT SILVER LEAF AND WHAT HAS GONE ON WITH EXPANSION OF SILVER LEAF.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M CHRIS WARD.
I'M ONE OF THE PARTNERS OF THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
I WANT TO POINT OUT TOO SOMETHINGTA LET'S LOST IN THE SHUFFLE ON THE CONCURRENCY ISSUE.
LINKS 91 AND 92 HAVE BEEN BROKEN BASED ON THE TRAFFIC MATRIX PUBLISHED BY THE COUNTY FOR OVER NINE YEARS.
THOSE TWO LINKS HAVE BEEN ABOVE CAPACITY FOR OVER NINE YEARS.
WHEN WE GOT ARBOR MILL APPROVED, WE'VE CONTRIBUTED OVER $600,000 TO FIX THOSE TWO LINKS. WE'RE CONTRIBUTING TO FIX A PROBLEM THAT EXIST IN THE COUNTY AND SOMETIMES THE COUNTY WILL TAKE THOSE FUNDS AND SPEND THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE SO THAT PROBLEM DOES NOT GET FIXED. HERE WE ARE IS W WITH A NEW PROJECT THAT SHOULD BE ON THE BOOKS TO FIX THAT AND IT'S NOT.
AGAIN, WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS OTHER GREATER NEEDS IN THE COUNTY. WE'RE PROPOSING TO CONTRIBUTE ABOUT $600,000 AS OUR PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE TO FIX 19.2 AND '2" .1 WITH THE COUNTY SAYING THE GREATER NEED IS TO IMPROVE THAT INTERSECTION WHERE SILVER LEAF PARKWA IS GOING THE COME OUT. THE OTHER COMMENT IS OUR PROJECT IS GOING TO BE LESS THAN 2% IMPACT ON THE TWO SEGMENTS.
IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE A SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT ON SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN FAILING FOR 10 YEARS.
1% IS CONSIDERED THE MINIMUM WHICH IS WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING. AGAIN WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITHIN THE SYSTEM AND WE WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY FOR SCHOOLS AND TRANSPORTATION.
SILVER LEAF PARKWAY, THEY PUT THIS APPROXIMATELY $70 MILLION.
EVERY BUILDING PERMIT PULLED IN THERE FOR THE NEXT NUMBER OF YEARS, THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE ONE DOLLAR OF TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES PAID BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO RECEIVE CREDITS.
I THINK THE COUNTY NEEDS A GOOD BALANCE OF PROJECTS THAT ARE DRI'S THAT HAVE BIG REQUIREMENTS THAT GET IMPACT CREDITS AND SMALLER PROJECTS THAT HAVE A GREAT ROLE IN THE COUNTY PROVIDING PAY AS YOU GO WHICH WE'RE GIVING SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS OF MONEY UP FRONT TO HELP THE COUNTY FIX PROBLEMS THEY HAVE IN OTHER SPOTS. THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY.
THANK YOU. >> WITH THAT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. TO CAP OFF FIRST FAILING SHRINK OVER TWO MILES AWAY. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS CLOSE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS? WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY THEN.
>> I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE LAST HEARING WE HAD IN JULY.
I'M IN THE SAME NOTHING REALLY HAS CHANGED FOR ME.
I SEE THE PUBLIC BENEFITS AND THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT IT MAKES
AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT. >> ALL I CAN SAY IS I'D OFFER A
MOTION TO OPPOSE DENY THIS. >> OK.
>> I WANT TO SAY I'M GOING SUPPORT THIS.
I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL OF ASKING OURSELF THE QUESTION DOES COUNTY NEED THIS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT IS OUR ROLE.
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THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T DETERMINE PROPERTY OWNER SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T DO ON THEIR PROPERTY. THE MARKET DETERMINES WHETHER THAT IS A GOOD DECISION OR NOT. I THINK COUNTY NEEDS TO LOOK AT IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF DOES IT HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE COUNTY AND I DON'T BELIEVE THIS DOES.CERTAINLY THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT.
I THINK THEY WERE ADDRESSED BY THE APPLICANT.
OVERALL I THINK THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT IS IN THE AREA AND I THINK OVERALL HAS A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE COUNTY.
>> THANK YOU. I LOOK CLOSELY WHEN WE SEE A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TO TURN AGRICULTURE INTENSIVE WHICH IS NOT A DEVELOPMENT AREA INTO A DEVELOPMENT AREA.
IN THIS CASE I THINK MR. BURNETT MADE A VERY PERSUASIVE ARGUMENT REGARDING THE FAILING ROAD LINKS AND THEIR DISTANCE FROM THE PROJECT AND NATURALLY WHERE MOST OF THAT TRAFFIC IS GOING TO FLOW NORTH I DON'T SEE THE IMPACT ON THOSE FAILING LINKS AS BEING A MAJOR POINT OF CONTENTION. THE SCHOOL ISSUE I THINK OVER TIME WILL BE RESOLVED. I KNOW THERE IS A HIGH SCHOOL THAT IS GOING IN NEXT TO MILL CREEK AS WELL IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THERE ARE OTHER SCHOOL IN THAT AREA THAT ARE PLANNED. SCHOOL CAPACITY IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.
THIS IS A RELATIVELY SMALL PROJECT.
AND I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS ONE.
>> I'D OFFER A MOTION IF THERE IS NO OTHER COMMENT.
>> HE MADE A MOTION. I WAS GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT.
>> I WAS GOING TO HOLD HIS MOTION UNTIL COMMENTS WERE OVER.
>> I TEND TO AGREE WITH THOSE THAT HAVE SAID THEY WOULD SUPPORT THIS. BOTH FROM A SCHOOL STANDPOINT AND FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT. IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE IN TERMS OF IMPACT FEE. THIS IS NOT IMPACT FEE.
WHAT YOU ARE PROVIDING AT LEAST IS DONATION.
YOU ARE NOT ASKING FOR AN IMPACT FEE.
GIVEN THAT AND I KNOW HOW BADLY IT IS IN TERMS OF THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE I SEE THIS GROWTH IN TERMS OF THE STUDENTS THAT ARE COMING INTO THOSE SCHOOLS. THIS IS ONLY GOING TO HAVE A SMALL IMPACT ON THAT. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL. I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR A
DENIAL. >> I'M GOING TO CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO MY COMMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF THESE LITTLE DEVELOPMENTS HURT OR HINDER IN TERMS OF YOU GOT 120 HERE, 300 HERE, 40 THERE WHENEVER. I ENLARGER DRI'S, THEY PUT IN THE TWO LANE ROAD. THEY CONNECT IT TO THE HIGHWAY OR WHATEVER. AND PROVIDE THE SCHOOL SITES ETC. I THINK THEY DO THAT WITH MORE OF A PUNCH THAN SOME OF THE SMALLER DEVELOPS.
BUT THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS ANYWAY.
>> MR. WAINWRIGHT. >> MR. CHAIR , THE TERM SIGNIFICANT HAS BEEN CAST AROUND A LOT THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS. SIGNIFICANT CAN BE A LOT OR A LITTLE. I CAN'T SEE MY WAY CLEAR TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE IT WAS NOT SUPPORT IT WILL FIRST TIME IN MY VIEW. AND IT'S NOT CHANGED THAT MUCH.
THE FACT THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE HAD THE DETERMINATION TO COME BACK AND STAY IN THE FIGHT SO TO SPEAK TO THEIR CREDIT.
BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED.
I OFFER A MOTION TO RECOMMEND DEFILE OF COMP PLAN 2016.01-06
BASED ON FINDINGS OF FACT. >> DO WE HAVE ANY SECONDS?
>> DO WE HAVE ANY SECONDS? GOT A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
I SEE NONE. >> I WAS GOING TO COMMENT ON YOUR COMMENTS MR. CHAIRMAN. THE EFFECTIVE LAND USE CHANGE IS NOT JUST ON THE PROPOSED DEVELOPER BUT ALSO ON THE LAND OWNER. IF YOU ARE ONLY GOING TO ALLOW PEOPLE WHO OWN 1,000 ACRES OR MORE TO DO A LAND USE CHANGE, I SEE THAT AS PROBLEMATIC FOR A VAST MAJORITY OF THE LAND OWNER IN THE COUNTY. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO MAKE THAT
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COMMENT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVALFOR HAD IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE. >> SECOND.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL.
>> THIS IS ASSUMING -- THIS IS A MOTION PROVIDING THE STAFF REPORT WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BASENED FINDINGS OF FACT.
>> FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE. >> SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR APPROVAL. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES 5-2.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PUD2018-01. MOTION AND SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES 5-2. STAFF REPORTS.
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>> YES, SIR. YOU BROUGHT UP LAST TIME ABOUT OUR APPLICANTS THAT WE MAY HAVE IN FOR YOU TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON WITH RESPECT TO THE AGENCY MEMBERS.
WE HAVE 19 APPLICANTS THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT DID SUBMIT APPLICATIONS AND WE THOSE SCHEDULED FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING ON NOVEMBER 7 FOR TO YOU HEARTA AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
>> MR. CHAIR, JUST AS A REMINDER WE HAVE ONE REAPPLICATION OF AN EXISTING MEMBER OF THE AGENCY. WHILE YOU ARE FREE TALK TO ANY OTHER APPLICANT, THE WAY THE SUNSHINE LAW PROPOSES YOU CAN'T TALK TO MR. WOODARD OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.
>> EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE HEAR NEXT MEETING?
>> JUST A QUESTION. [INAUDIBLE]
. >> MR. CHAIR, IT MAY BE THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DECIDES SOMETIMES DURING THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, MAY WISH TO CONSIDER HOLD ORGANIZE NOT HOLDING THAT MEETING THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.
SOMETIMES A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONE.
STAFF IS GONE, MAKING DEADLINES. MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS IN ON TIME. LIKE WISE THE PRIVATE SIDE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE OUT. JUST SOMETHING FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION. >> I'M ALL FOR NOT HAVING A MEETING ON JANUARY 2, THE FIRST THURSDAY.
I SAY SHOULD DEPEND ON WHAT THE LOAD IS EXPECTED TO BE THEN.
>> AND RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT HEAVY AND WE CAN DICTATE THAT FROM THIS POINT GUARD IF YOU SO CHOOSE.
>> I SO CHOOSE. >> AT THIS POINT IN TIME CANCEL IT WILL JANUARY 2. IF WE NEED TO WE'LL CONTACT THE AGENCY AGAIN TO SEE IF WE TO READVERTISE AND MAKE SURE THAT JANUARY 2 MEETING IS AVAILABLE. IF THE AGENCY SO CHOOSES, WE'LL MAKE SURE THE NO ITEMS GET SCHEDULED ON THAT PARTICULAR
DATE. >> I THINK WE SHOULD CANCEL IT.
OBVIOUSLY BEING THAT CLOSE TO A HOLIDAY, I'LL BE OUT OF THE
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CANCEL THE JANUARY 2ND
>>> ALL IN FAVOR? NO MEETING ON THE 2ND.
NIGH ITEMS? SEEING NONE I'LL HEAR A MOTION
TO ADJOURN. >> SO MOVED.
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