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          >> THIS COUNTY BOARD OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY MEETING. YOU CAN ACCESS ALL SUPPORTING MATERIALS. THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON ANY AGENDA ITEMS REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC COMMENT IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. SHOULD THE EXHIBITOR HAVE ANY MATERIALS, PLEASE PROVIDE THOSE TO THE CLERK OF COURT FOR INCLUSION TO THE RECORD. CLERK OF COURT, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. WE ARE RECOGNIZING THE ST. JOHNS, EXCUSE ME. FIRST, WE WILL HAVE OUR INVOCATION AND I CAN'T FIND THE NOTE. DO YOU 
          HAVE IT? >> GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. 
          IT IS GOOD TO BE WITH YOU ALL . I AM REVEREND RACHEL MCNEIL AND I AM HERE FROM MEMORIAL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH. IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU THIS MORNING. LET US PRAY. HOLY ONE, WE OFFER A WORD OF COMMUNAL THANKS FOR THE GIFTS OF LIVING IN THIS BEAUTIFUL COUNTY. FROM THE WATERWAYS OF THE ST. JOHNS RIVER TO THE SURF AND SAND OF OUR ATLANTIC BEACHES, THE MAJESTIC LIVE OAKS AND THE PALMS, WE GIVE THANKS. WE GIVE THANKS FOR THE CREATIVITY AND DIVERSITY OF THE COUNTY'S DEMOGRAPHICS AND FOR THE ABUNDANCE OF RESOURCES FROM OUR PUBLIC LIBRARY SYSTEM TO OUR PUBLIC PARKS. WE HUMBLY COME TOGETHER, AWARE OF THE CHALLENGES OUR COUNTY FACES FROM CLIMATE CHANGE, HOMELESSNESS AND A QUICKLY GROWING POPULATION. 
          MAY WE SEEK TO SOLVE PROBLEMS CREATIVELY AND COMPASSIONATELY AND COOPERATE WELL ACROSS DIFFERENCES. PLEASE BLESS OUR COMMISSIONERS AND ALL THOSE HERE TODAY TO SPEAK , THINK CRITICALLY, SEE GRACIOUSLY AND LISTEN WITH HUMILITY. MAY WE ALL BE KNOWN FOR OUR NEIGHBORLY LOVE FOR ONE ANOTHER. AMEN. 
          >> AFTER THE PLEDGE WE WILL RECOGNIZE ISRAEL FRIENDSHIP DAY AND RECOGNIZE ARMY FIRST-CLASS RETIRED. 
          >> OR AMERICAN FLAG HAS STOOD AS HIS SYMBOL OF FREEDOM SINCE 1777. AS WE STAND WITH PRIDE THIS MORNING, LET US BE REMINDED OF OUR TREASURES AND THOSE WHO SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES, THOSE WHO ARE STILL SACRIFICING AND ALL WHO HAVE GIVEN SELFLESSLY FOR OUR COUNTRY AND FREEDOMS. LET'S SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          [Proclamation Recognizing November 8, 2025, as St. Johns County-Israel  Friendship Day ]
          >> BEFORE WE HAVE THE NATIONAL ANTHEM, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ISRAEL FRIENDSHIP DAY. IT'S THE FIFTH YEAR FOR THIS. I WANT TO CALL ON CONGRESSMAN RANDY FINE . HE HAS A FEW WORDS TO SAY. AFTER THAT, THE DELEGATION, THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. 
          >> A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. 
          JOHNS COUNTY WHEREAS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND ISRAEL IS BASED ON THE SHARED VALUES AND MUTUAL INTERESTS AND ISRAEL IS A BEACON OF LIGHT AS THE ONLY TRULY FREE DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND GUARANTEES IN ITS DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE BOTH FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE, WORSHIP, EDUCATION AND CULTURE AND, WHEREAS, ISRAEL WAS FOUNDED IN 1948 AS A 
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NATIONAL HOME FOR JEWISH HOPE AND IT IS BELIEVED THAT THEY WERE AMONG THE EARLIEST SETTLERS OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, COMING IN THE 16TH CENTURY AND, WHEREAS, THE FIRST ORGANIZED JEWISH POPULATION IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY WAS FOUNDED IN 1898 AND CONGREGATIONS OF REFORM, CONSERVATIVE AND OTHER CONSERVATION -- AND, WHEREAS, THE PEOPLE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, VALUE THE MANY WAYS OUR OUR DIVERSITY AND THEY SING AND SOLDIER TO -- SHOULDER TO SHOULDER IN PROMOTING FREEDOM, HUMAN RIGHTS AND SECURITY AND, NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS PROCLAIMED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS , FLORIDA RECOGNIZE NOVEMBER 8, 2025 AS ST. JOHNS COUNTY-ISRAEL FRIENDSHIP DAY. IT HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THIS FOURTH DAY 
          OF NOVEMBER, 2025. [APPLAUSE] >> OKAY. WE'VE GOT RABBIS AND REVERENCE , DO YOU WANT THEM TO COME UP? THEY CAN TALK NOW. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I WOULD SAY I AM HAPPY TO BE HERE BUT IT IS NOT TRUE . I WISH THE GOVERNMENT WOULD REOPEN WE COULD GO BACK TO WORK. IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, IT IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY. I AM RANDY FINE. FOR SOME OF YOU, I AM YOUR CONGRESSMAN AND HAVE BEEN YOUR CONGRESSMAN FOR ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS. IT IS AN HONOR, I AM HONORED TO BE INVITED HERE TODAY. I WILL JUST TALK FOR A MINUTE ABOUT WHY THIS MATTERS AND WHY WHAT YOU ARE DOING TODAY MATTERS. YOU CAN TELL I AM JEWISH. I AM THE FIRST REPUBLICAN JEW IN CONGRESS, THAT IS PROBABLY WHY I GOT INVITED BUT I WILL TELL YOU WHY IT SHOULD MATTER TO YOU AT WHY DOES IT MATTER TO ME? I WILL TELL YOU TWO STORIES. ONE IS ABOUT ME. 
          ONE IS ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN FRIENDS I SERVED WITH IN CONGRESS. SO I WENT TO ISRAEL WITH THEM A FEW MONTHS AGO. 
          TYPICALLY, WHEN EVERY TWO YEARS A GROUP OF PEOPLE GET ELECTED TO CONGRESS, THEY GO TO ISRAEL IN THE SUMMER. IT IS KIND OF A RIGHT OF PASSAGE. YOU GET TO KNOW YOUR COLLEAGUES. FOR MANY MY COLLEAGUES, IT IS VERY EXCITING. THEY GET TO GO TO THE HOLY LAND, THEY SEE THE SITES CRITICAL TO THEIR RELIGION. 
          WHILE ISRAEL IS A JEWISH STATE, IT ALSO CONTAINS THE HOLIEST SITE IN THE CHRISTIAN FAITH. SO I WAS THERE WITH MY COLLEAGUES, ONLY A COUPLE OF US WERE JEWISH, THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES WERE CHRISTIAN. THEY GOT TO GO TO THE, UM, TO WHERE JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED. THEY GOT TO GO TO THE MOUNTED BEATITUDES WHERE HE GAVE HIS SPEECH, THEY WENT TO THE MOUNT OF OLIVES, SO MANY PLACES THAT WERE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO THEIR FAITH . THE CHURCH WHERE THEY BELIEVE JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED AND BURIED. THESE ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT PLACES WHERE THEY FELT SAFE, OPEN AND WELCOMED WHERE THEY COULD PRACTICE THEIR FAITH. AND THEN, THEY WENT TO SEE WHERE JESUS WAS BORN IN BETHLEHEM. I DID NOT JOIN THEM THAT DAY. I COULD NOT GO ON A BUS TOUR BECAUSE IT WAS SHABBAT SO I DID NOT GO. THEY WENT TO BETHLEHEM, WHICH WAS NOT IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD THAT WAS CONTROLLED BY ISRAEL. 
          BETHLEHEM, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, USED TO BE CONTROLLED BY ISRAEL. AT THAT TIME, 85% OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN BETHLEHEM WERE CHRISTIAN. YOU WOULD EXPECT THAT, RIGHT? THAT IS WHERE JESUS WAS BORN. I WAS CHRISTMAS DOES MY CHRISTIAN, I WOULD WANT TO LIVE THERE, AS WELL. AT SOME POINT, BETHLEHEM, THE CONTROLLER BETHLEHEM, WAS GIVEN OVER TO THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY. TODAY, NOT THAT MANY YEARS LATER, LESS THAN 10% OF BETHLEHEM IS CHRISTIAN. WHAT MY COLLEAGUES TALKED TO ME ABOUT WHEN THEY GOT BACK FROM BETHLEHEM WAS NOT ABOUT VISITING THE PLACE WHERE JESUS WAS BORN, THE CHURCH ITSELF WAS ALMOST AN AFTERTHOUGHT BUT JARRED THEM ON HOW DIFFERENT THEIR VISIT TO BETHLEHEM WAS TO ALL OF THE HOLY PLACES THAT THEY VISITED THAT WERE CONTROLLED BY ISRAEL. SO, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE JEWISH AND CARE ABOUT YOUR HERITAGE AND YOUR FAITH. THE STATE OF ISRAEL DOES NOT SIMPLY PROTECT THE JEWISH FAITH AND SITES IMPORTANT TO JEWS , IT IS PROTECTING FROM THOSE WHO WOULD NOT PRESERVE 
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THEM. SECOND, I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT ME AND THE OTHER REASON YOU SHOULD CARE. IT ISN'T JUST ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD, IT IS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS HERE. 
          MANY OF YOU CAN SEE I WEAR A LLAMA COP. THAT IS A NEW THING FOR ME. YOU MET ME WHEN I WAS CAMPAIGNING IN THE FALL AND SPRING, YOU NEVER SAW IT. YOU SAY, WHY ARE YOU WEARING IT NOW? I WILL TELL YOU THE STORY. I STARTED WEARING ONE ON MAY 6 ON THIS YEAR LOOKS WHY THAT DAY? WHEN I GOT TO CONGRESS, THEY PUT ME ON THE EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE UNIT, ONE OF THE TWO COMMITTEES I SIT ON FOR ALL OF YOU. AND ON MAY 6, THE COMMITTEE I SAT ON HAD A HEARING ON ANTI-SEMITISM TO BRING COLLEGE PRESIDENTS IN FROM FLORIDA, FORTUNATELY, NONE WERE FROM FLORIDA, FORTUNATELY, I FIXED THAT BUT THOSE WHO HAD FAILED TO PROTECT THEIR JEWISH STUDENTS. IN FAILING TO PROTECT THEIR JEWISH STUDENTS, THEY FAILED TO PROTECT ALL OF THEIR STUDENTS BECAUSE EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE SAFE AND SECURE. 
          THERE WERE TO BRING IN THREE UNIVERSITY PRESIDENTS. MY SON, WHO IS 17, MY SON IS 17, SAID TO ME, DAD, I THINK YOU SHOULD WEAR THE YARMULKE. I SAID, WHY? WE ONLY WEAR THAT WHEN WE GO TO SERVICES. WHY? HE GOES, BECAUSE I HAVE FRIENDS IN COLLEGE WHO DON'T FEEL SAFE TO WEAR THEIRS. SO YOU SHOULD GO AND WEAR IT IN HONOR OF THEM. THINK ABOUT THAT. WE LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. IF SOMEONE WAS TO WEAR ONE OF THESE, IT SHOULD NOT BE A BIG DEAL. IT DOES NOT AFFECT ANYONE ELSE, IT DOESN'T GET IN THE WAY. IT IS NOT DISRUPTIVE TO ANYONE ELSE. IT IS ME OR THAT STUDENT PRACTICING THEIR FAITH SO WHY SHOULD ANYONE BE AFRAID TO WEAR IT? SO I DID. I WORE ONE THAT DAY, I MADE A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT. YOU LOOK ON YOUTUBE VIDEOS, YOU CAN SEE ME. I GOT SO MUCH REACTION AT THE END OF THE DAY, MY SON SAID, DAD, YOU SHOULD CONTINUE TO WEAR ONE UNTIL EVERY STUDENT FEELS SAFE ABOUT THAT WHICHEVER COLLEGE THEY CHOOSE TO GO -- [APPLAUSE] 
          >> WHICH MEANS I PROBABLY WILL END UP WEARING ONE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. IT SHOULD NOT BE THAT WAY. BUT THIS, YOU KNOW, GOD PUTS US ALL WHERE HE WANTS US TO BE. I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT. 
          I SHOULD BE IN CONGRESS. THIS WAS NOT PART OF MY PLAN. THE PRESIDENT ASKED ME TO RUN LESS THAN ONE YEAR AGO. I WAS SORT OF DEBATING ON HAVING TO REMEMBER TO PUT IT ON EVERY DAY AND THREE DAYS LATER, I SPEAK WITH THE GAVEL AND, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU SEE THE PRESIDENT TALK WITH THE TWO CHAIRS, I GOT TO STAND THERE AND BE IN CHARGE FOR THE DAY. I AM WEARING IT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN AN ORTHODOX FAMILY COMES IN, A VERY OBSERVANT FAMILY. AND BECAUSE THEY ARE AN ORTHODOX FAMILY, THEY HAVE 12 CHILDREN. 
          IT WAS A BIG GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT CAME IN. I KNOW THIS BECAUSE IT IS SORT OF BORING AND I SEE PEOPLE COME IN THE GALLERY. ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE KIDS, I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHY THEY WERE POINTING AT ME. I REALIZED THEY WERE POINTING AT ME BECAUSE I WAS WEARING MY KIPPAH AND I WAS LIKE THEM. I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING. I TURNED TO THE STAFF AND I SAID TO THE STAFF, UM, HAVE ANYONE NEVER WORN ONE OF THESE BEFORE? WE HAVE BEEN WAITING THE LAST THREE DAYS FOR YOU TO ASK US THAT QUESTION. WE HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH. IT TURNS OUT, NO, NO ONE HAS EVER WORN ONE OF THESE UP HERE BEFORE. IN THE 249 YEAR HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES, NO MEMBER OF CONGRESS HAS WARNED A KIPPAH IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. [APPLAUSE] 
          >> IT IS SAID TO ME THAT IS ONE OF MY PURPOSES HERE, IS TO TRY TO FIGHT FOR THIS BY LITERALLY WEARING A TARGET ON MY HEAD TO SAY THAT , IT DOES HAVE A DOWNSIDE, I WANT TO BE CLEAR. 
          THAT NIGHT I WENT TO A COCKTAIL PARTY. WE ARE NOT SUPER OBSERVANT. I WENT TO A COCKTAIL PARTY AND I AM AT THAT COCKTAIL PARTY AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT I WAS REACHING FOR, IT COULD'VE BEEN A BACON WRAPPED SHRIMP, A CHEESEBURGER, I DON'T REMEMBER. 
          ALL OF A SUDDEN, PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT ME AGAIN. I SAID, YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING. MOST POLITICIANS ELECTED AND THEY GIVE UP ALL THEIR MORALS. MY RABBI SAYS BY THE TIME I AM DONE I WILL HAVE A 12 INCH BEARD AND I WILL BE A RABBI. THAT IS THE NATURE OF POLITICS. I TELL YOU THESE STORIES TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS MATTERS AGAIN. IT MATTERS BECAUSE BY PROTECTING ISRAEL, YOU ARE PROTECTING THE SITES THAT ARE NOT ONLY IMPORTANT TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE, BUT TO THE CHRISTIAN PEOPLE, FOR THOSE THAT NEED PROTECTING FROM THOSE WHO SEEK TO DESTROY THEM. YOU HAVE YOUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS THAT ARE JEWISH. WE LIVE IN A TIME WHERE MANY OF THEM ARE VERY FREE. BY DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING TODAY, YOU'RE SHOWING YOU ARE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, YOUR INTEGRAL TO WHERE WE LIVE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, FLORIDA AND 
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AMERICA AS A WHOLE AND WE WILL MAKE SURE YOU ARE SAFE FOREVER. 
          I LOOK FORWARD TO COMING BACK AND COMING BACK TO TALK ABOUT THINGS OTHER THAN THESE ISSUES BUT ON THIS DAY WHEN YOU RECOGNIZE THE RELATIONSHIP WITH ISRAEL, IT IS AN HONOR TO COME AND SPEND THESE FEW MINUTES WITH YOU AND SHARE MY THOUGHTS SAID THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. [APPLAUSE] 
          [National Anthem performed by the St. Augustine High School Chorus]
          >> ONE MORE UP HERE. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THIS IS WONDERFUL. 
          GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU. 
          >> NOW THE NATIONAL ANTHEM . ♪ OH, SAY, CAN YOU SEE, BY THE DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT, WHAT SO PROUDLY WE HAIL'D AT THE TWILIGHT'S LAST GLEAMING? WHOSE BROAD STRIPES AND BRIGHT STARS, THRO' THE PERILOUS FIGHT, O'ER THE RAMPARTS WE WATCH'D, WERE SO GALLANTLY STREAMING? AND THE ROCKETS' RED GLARE, THE BOMBS BURSTING IN AIR, GAVE PROOF THRO' THE NIGHT THAT OUR FLAG WAS STILL THERE. O SAY, DOES THAT STAR-SPANGLED BANNER YET WAVE O'ER THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE? ♪ OF 
          THE BRAVE ♪ [APPLAUSE] >> THAT WAS THIS ST. AUGUSTINE HIGH SCHOOL COURSE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. UP 
          [Proclamation Recognizing November 11, 2025, as Veterans Day]
          >> NEXT IS THE PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING NOVEMBER 8 , I AM SORRY, THE VETERANS DAY PROCLAMATION . I HAVE A GIFT FOR THE CHORAL MEMBERS. I WILL BE RIGHT DOWN THERE. OKAY. THANK 
          YOU. >> GET YOUR HOMEWORK DONE. 
          LAUGHTER ] [APPLAUSE] >> AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LOVE TO 
          WELCOME COLONEL BILL DUDLEY UP. >> A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD 
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OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. GEORGE -- ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA. WHEREAS, THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO HONOR AMERICAN VETERANS FOR THEIR PATRIOTISM WHO LOVE OUR COUNTRY, COMMITMENT TO FREEDOM AND WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AND SACRIFICE FOR THE COMMON GOOD AND, WHEREAS, FLORIDA IS HOME TO APPROXIMATELY 1.4 MILLION VETERANS AND REPRESENTS THE THIRD LARGEST CONCENTRATION OF VETERANS IN THE NATION. AND, WHEREAS, ON THIS DAY, LET US SOME ONLY REMEMBER THE SACRIFICES OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO STEPPED FORWARD WHEN AMERICA NEEDED THEM. ALL THOSE WHO FOUGHT SO VALIANTLY OVERSEAS, IN THE AIR AND ON FOREIGN SHORES TO PRESERVE OUR HERITAGE OF FREEDOM. AND, WHEREAS, WE RESOLVED THAT THEIR SARIFICES WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED BY A GRATEFUL NATION. 
          LET US TASK OURSELVES WITH THE PROMOTION OF ENDURING PEACE SO THEIR EFFORTS SHALL NOT HAVE BEEN IN VAIN. AND, NOW, THEREFORE, PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA THAT TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 11, 2025, BE KNOWN AS VETERANS DAY WITH RESPECT FOR AND RECOGNITION OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS OUR SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN HAVE MADE TO THE CAUSE OF PEACE AND FREEDOM AROUND THE WORLD. THIS IS PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THIS NOVEMBER 4, 2025. [APPLAUSE] 
          >> WHAT AN ABSOLUTE HONOR FOR ME TO BE HERE THIS MORNING AND BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS WONDERFUL PROCLAMATION TO SUPPORT OUR VETERANS. MAY GOD BLESS THEM. I AM A MOM OF TEENAGE BOYS. I DO THINK THAT SO MANY OF OUR YOUNG YOUTH DO TAKE FREEDOM IN THIS COUNTRY FOR GRANTED AND I KNOW MY HUSBAND AND I WHEN RAISING OUR BOYS, WE DID NOT LET THEM FORGET. MY GRANDFATHER FOUGHT IN WORLD WAR II. WE ARE NOT ALL SPEAKING GERMAN RIGHT NOW. I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT IT , AS WELL. WHEN I MEET PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DON'T EVEN VOTE, I REMEMBER SAYING TO THEM, OR I WILL SAY TO THEM, WOW, YOU KNOW, MY GRANDFATHER FOUGHT IN WORLD WAR II SO YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE WE CANNOT TAKE SO MANY THINGS FOR GRANTED. I AM BEYOND HONORED. MY 18-YEAR-OLD IS AWAY AT COLLEGE. HE IS PART OF THE ARMY MISSISSIPPI NATIONAL GUARD. 
          I COULD NOT BE MORE PROUD FOR HIM TO SERVE THIS AMAZING COUNTRY. I AM BEYOND HONORED TO BE SITTING UP HERE, STANDING HERE NEXT TO COLONEL BILL DUDLEY, NOT ONLY AS HE SERVES THE COUNTRY BUT HE CONTINUES TO SERVE THOSE THAT NEED IT SO GOD 
          BLESS YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> WELL, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER . IT IS MY HONOR THIS MORNING TO HAVE WITH US FROM TALLAHASSEE OUR FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS MAJOR GENERAL JAMES HARTSELL . HE IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING WITH YOU , HE HAS A FEW WORDS AND THEN, AFTER THAT, COMMISSIONERS, WE WILL DISRUPT THINGS A LITTLE BIT THIS MORNING. WE WILL ASK YOU ALL TO COME DOWN, IF YOU WOULD AND JOIN THE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU AND YOUR TEAM COME OVER, AS WELL. KEY WEST, IF YOU WOULD COME DOWN, AS WELL. AS SOON AS WE GET EVERYONE ASSEMBLED DOWN HERE, I WILL ASK ALL VETERANS TO COME UP, AS WELL, FOR A PHOTO OP. GENERAL? THE FLOOR IS YOURS . [APPLAUSE] 
          >> GOOD MORNING, ST. JOHNS COUNTY. IT IS A BLESSING FOR ME TO BE HERE. GOD GAVE US A BEAUTIFUL DAY. WHEN YOU BEEN TO WAR AND YOU HOPE FOR THE NEXT MORNING, YOU NEVER FORGET FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY, MOM, THANK YOU FOR RAISING SOMEONE WHO VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE OUR NATION. WELL DONE. WELL DONE. 
          GIVE HER A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. [APPLAUSE] 
          >> YEAH, WHEN COLONEL DUDLEY ASKED ME TO COME OVER, I HAVE 23 EVENTS I AM DOING IN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS BECAUSE IT IS THE SEASON. FLORIDA LOVES OUR VETERANS. NO MATTER HOW YOU VOTE, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE. FLORIDA LOVES OUR VETERANS. WE RESPECT OUR VETERANS. IT IS AN HONOR FOR ME TO SERVE WITH THEM ALL ACROSS OUR STATE, NEWLY FROM KEY WEST TO PENSACOLA. I HAVE BEEN DOING GOLDSTAR FAMILY RECOGNITIONS, COMMISSIONING A WARSHIP IN PANAMA CITY IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. A USA WARSHIP. I AM DOING FIVE MARINE CORPS BIRTHDAYS, THE 250TH BIRTHDAY OF THE MARINE CORPS ON NOVEMBER 10 AND WE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT MARINES. THAT IS HOW IT IS. OF COURSE, VETERANS DAY AND MANY OTHER EVENTS. A COUPLE NIGHTS I WILL BE AT THE MILITARY ANTHEM RECOGNITION FOR THE TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING IN 
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TAMPA. I WILL PUT ON MY DRESS BLUES, I WILL BE ESCORTING A 100 PLUS-YEAR-OLD VETERAN ONTO THE ICE TO BE RECOGNIZED AS THE ANTHEM GUEST FOR MILITARY APPRECIATION MONTH. I AM BLESSED TO DO THOSE THINGS BECAUSE FLORIDA LOVES OUR VETERANS. WHEN BILL ASKED ME TO COME OVER, I SAID, YES, I WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN. I HAVE TO GET BACK TO TALLAHASSEE, BUT IT IS AN HONOR FOR ME TO BE HERE WITH Y'ALL THIS MORNING. I LOVE TO RECOGNIZE OUR VETERANS AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF THIS GREAT COUNTY. I WANT TO SAY I WORKED WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR A YEAR, SHERIFF, IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR. HE IS A VETERAN AND I WILL NEVER FORGET THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. 
          [APPLAUSE] >> COULD Y'ALL PLEASE COME DOWN HERE? BRING YOUR TEAM DOWN, AS WELL. 
          >> BECAUSE I AM A RETIRED GENERAL MARINE, 37 YEARS, I'VE GOT SOMETHING TO GIVE THESE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE. IT IS MY COMMANDERS GOING. THAT IS WHAT WE CALL THAT IN THE MILITARY. YOU WILL RECOGNIZE IT BECAUSE IT IS THE GREAT STATE OF FLORIDA. ON THIS IT HAS ALL THE SERVICES, ALL THE U.S. MILITARY SERVICES, EVEN THE U.S. SPACE FORCE IS ON THE COIN. I PUT THE MARINE CORPS AT THE TOP, SORRY. DON'T WORRY, THE ARMY IS ON THERE. ON THE BACK ARE CURRENTLY NINE BLUE STARS. THOSE ARE STATE MEMBERS. THEY ARE BLUE STARS BECAUSE THEY ARE LIVING. THAT IS WHAT WE RECOGNIZE. WE ARE HONORED TO TAKE CARE OF THAT GENERATION. BILL ASKED ME TO BRING SOME COINS. I WANT TO COIN THESE LEADERS IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY DO FOR VETERANS, FAMILIES AND SUPPORTERS. 
          [APPLAUSE] 
          >> ALL VETERANS IN THE AUDIENCE COME UP. [APPLAUSE] 
          >> NOW WE WILL CALL FOR ANY FAMILY MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE. 
          [APPLAUSE] >> WAS THAT A NICE MORNING? ALL 
          [Acceptance of the Proclamations ]
IN FAVOR? BEFORE WE GO INTO THE REST, I JUST WANT TO SAY WE HAVE 
          [Deletions to Consent Agenda]
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A SPECIAL FOOD TRUCK OUT THERE FOR COFFEE AND LATTES AND BAGELS AND FOOD ITEMS. YOU WANT TO GO OUTSIDE, IT IS IN FRONT 
          [Approval of Consent Agenda]
          >> ARRAY, DELETIONS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? 
          >> I HAVE NONE, . >> I HAVE NONE, . 
          >> I HAVE NONE. >> I HAVE NONE. A MOTION, 
          PLEASE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT 
          AGENDA. >> I WILL SECOND. 
          >> SHOULD WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? 
          >> OKAY. WE WILL NOW ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ONLY. PLEASE STEP FORWARD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. BJ ], ST. AUGUSTINE ITEMS 11 AND 14. NOT RETURNING TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL IS NOT TRANSPARENCY FOR TAXPAYERS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALIZE WHAT IS GOING ON THERE. AN AGREEMENT ON 11 AND 14 PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THE PURCHASE OF VEHICLES. WHENEVER THINGS DON'T COME BACK TO THE BOARD, WE, AS TAXPAYERS, REALLY DON'T KNOW IF YOU READ THE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO IT. I THINK IT SHOULD COME BACK TO THE BOARD SEE YOU ALL HAVE A DECISION ON A VOTE ON IT, TOO. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. 
          CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ONLY, PLEASE 
          >> I AM NOT SURE IF THIS IS WHAT I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON. I AM HERE TO SPEAK OF A THE SHOALS BOULEVARD PROJECT. 
          >> YES. IT'S COMING UP SOON. DON'T GO FAR. ANYONE ELSE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ONLY? GOOD MORNING. COME ON UP . IT IS YOUR TURN. IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO PUT ON THE PROJECTOR, YOU CAN PUT IT IN THE CENTER. 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          >> MY NAME IS SUSAN SINGER, FLORIDA. I AM HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT MOTION 22. I SUPPORT THE MOTION TO ADOPT THE INTERNATIONAL HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE ALLIANCE WORKING DEFINITION OF ANTI-SEMITISM. 
          ATTACKS ALL OVER HAVE DRAMATICALLY INCREASED . THIS WORKING DEFINITION IS CONSIDERED USEFUL BY MANY GOVERNMENTS AND INSTITUTIONS BECAUSE IT PROVIDES CLEAR GUIDELINES FOR IDENTIFYING HATRED TOWARDS JEWS IN ITS CONTEMPORARY FORMS. MANIFESTATIONS, INCLUDING ATTACKS AGAINST JEWISH OR NON-JEWISH INDIVIDUALS AND/OR THEIR COMMUNITY PROPERTY TOWARD JEWISH INSTITUTIONS AND FACILITIES AND MUCH MORE , ACTUALLY. A QUOTE, NOBEL LAUREATE AND HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR, WE MUST ALWAYS TAKE SIDES. NEUTRALITY HELPS THE OPPRESSOR , NEVER THE VICTIM. SILENCE ENCOURAGES THE TORMENTOR, NEVER THE TORMENTED . THE FIGHT AGAINST ANTI-SEMITISM AND ALL HATE REQUIRES ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT , NEUTRALITY IN THE FAITH OF HATRED. IT IS NEVER AN OPTION . AS A PROUD JEWISH-AMERICAN, AND SECRETARY OF THE ST. JOHNS REPUBLICAN PARTY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR CONSIDERING 
          THIS RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? GOOD MORNING. 
          >> A MORNING. MY NAME IS JUDY SPIEGEL. 
          ROLLING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I WILL SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22, AS WELL. I WANT TO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, FOR YOUR STEADFAST NAME WITH OUR BROTHER NATION OF ISRAEL. WE STEADFASTLY SUPPORT ISRAEL. AS A CHRISTIAN, WE LOVE THE LORD, WE LOVE WHAT THE LORD LOVES. WE LOVE ISRAEL AND THE LORD LOVES ISRAEL. I AM SPEAKING AGAINST THE SCOURGE OF THE ANTI-SEMITISM, THE ANTI-SEMITIC SPIRIT EXPRESSED BY SOME PEOPLE WHO CLAIM TO BE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS. MOST OF THE CHRISTIANS I KNOW DECLARE A LOVE FOR ISRAEL. THERE ARE MANY AND SOME PUBLIC VOICES RISING UP AGAINST ISRAEL. THIS IS AN ANTI-GOD SPIRIT. WE ARE CALLED TO LOVE WHAT THE LORD LOVES. THE LORD LOVES ISRAEL. THE CHURCH DID NOT REPLACE ISRAEL IN THE LORD'S AFFECTIONS. ISRAEL CANNOT BE REJECTED BECAUSE OUR GOD IS A COVENANT MAKER AND HE KEEPS HIS COVENANT. JEREMIAH 31, 
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35 AND 36 BOLDLY DECLARING GOD'S WORDS, THUS SAYS THE LORD WHO GIVES THE SUN BY DAY IN THE FIXED ORDER OF THE MOON AND THE STARS FOR LIGHT BY NIGHT WHO STIRS UP THE SEA SO THE WAVES WERE. THE LORD OPPOSES HIS NAME. ONLY IF THIS FIXED ORDER DEPARTS FOR MY PRESENCE, DECLARES THE LORD, WOULD ISRAEL'S DESCENDENTS EVER CEASE TO BE A NATION BEFORE ME. IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, WE READ THE WORDS OF PAUL, WHO IS BEING TRAINED AS A PHARISEE, A HIGHLY RESPECTED TEACHER OF ISRAEL. ROMANS 11: 1, 2. HAVE GOD REJECTED HIS PEOPLE? BY NO MEANS. MYSELF AM AN ISRAELITE, A DESCENDENT OF ABRAHAM, A MEMBER OF THE TRIBE OF BENJAMIN. GOD DID NOT REJECT HIS PEOPLE. PAUL GOES ON TO SAY IN ROMANS 11: 25, 26, 27 AND 29 SAYS IN PART, I DO NOT WANT YOU TO BE IGNORANT OF THIS MYSTERY SO YOU CANNOT CONCEIVE IT. UNTIL THE FULL NUMBER OF GENTILES HAVE COME IN, ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED AS REGARDS TO ELECTION, BELOVED, ON ACCOUNT OF THE PATRIARCHS, FOR THE GIFTS AND CALLING OF GOD ARE IRREVOCABLE. 
          IN EPHESIANS 3:6, PAUL WRITES THE GENTILES ARE FELLOW HEIRS, FELLOW MEMBERS OF THE BODY AND FELLOW PARTAKERS OF THE PROMISE IN CHRIST JESUS. IN THIS ANTI-SEMITIC SPIRIT IS AN ANTI-GOD SPIRIT. WE CANNOT TOLERATE AN ANTI-GOD SPIRIT IN THIS NATION. WE RELY ON THE TRUTH OF THE WORD OF GOD. JESUS WAS JEWISH. JESUS CAME TO THE JEWS . ALL OF THE APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES WERE JEWISH. MOST OF THE NEW TESTAMENT WAS WRITTEN BY JEWS . WE BLESS THE NATION OF ISRAEL. WE BLESS THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND WE STAND , BEHOLD AND HOW GOOD AND HOW PLEASANT IT IS FOR BROTHERS TO DWELL IN UNITY. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] 
          >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE CONSENT AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          >> YES, THERE IS A MOTION ON THE TABLE. A VOICE VOTE. ALL RIGHT. 
          WE JUST PASSED THAT PROCLAMATION AGAINST ANTI-SEMITISM. THANK 
          [Additions/Deletions to Regular Agenda]
          YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> ANY DELETIONS OR ADDITIONS TO 
          THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> I HAVE NONE, . 
          [Approval of Regular Agenda]
          >> I HAVE NONE. >> I HAVE NONE. 
          >> I HAVE NONE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          [Public Comment]
          >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          >> SECOND. >> VOICE VOTE. 
          >> YES. >> PUBLIC COMMENT? 
          >> WE NOW HAVE -- >> NONE. 
          >> SORRY. >> FOR THE REGULAR AGENDA . 
          >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> YET, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT NOW. OKAY, AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HEAR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT SELECTED FOR ACTION ON TODAY'S AGENDA YOU CAN WALK UP, IF YOU WANT TO. JUST LET ME TALK FIRST AND THEN YOU CAN GO SECOND. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE. YOU CAN BE FIRST. BY DIRECTION OF THE BOARD, PLEASE COME TO THE ONE OF THE THREE PODIUMS, PROVIDE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. WE ASK YOU SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE. THE SPEAKER WILL COMPLY WITH THE BOARD'S RULES OF DECORUM. THE SPEAKERS MAY NOT PROVIDE AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE. 
          SPEAKERS MAY NOT SLANDER WITH REMARKS OR BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR. 
          MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WILL REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIONS OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL. A PERSON FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THESE RULES THEY MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE AUDITORIUM. FINALLY, PLEASE UTILIZE THE CENTER PODIUM IF YOU HAVE MATERIALS. MATERIALS CAN BE PLACED ON THE X FOR DISPLAY. LAPTOP WILL BE SET UP FOR ANY USB PRESENTATION. AFTER PRESENTING, PLEASE PROVIDE THE MATERIALS TO THE STAFF AND CLERK OF COURT SO THEY CAN ENTER IT INTO THE RECORD. WITH THAT, YOU THREE MINUTES. 
          >> DISCUSS THE RECORDED APPROVAL OF AND SEE E.R. A -- I AM QUOTING, APPLICANT PROPOSES A CONDITION ON A ONE ACRE PARCEL ALONG THE BOUNDARIES THEN THE CODE REQUIRED MINIMUM AS A NEGATED MEASURE, NEGATING WHAT THEY WANTED. 
          HONOR THE MEASURE. THIS IS WHAT I HAVE NOW. I SAW THE TREES GO UP. THIS IS THE APPROVED , THIS IS THE APPROVED SITE PLAN FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. IT IS SHOWING THAT A SEPTIC TANK WILL BE PUT 10 FEET WITHIN THE 10 FEET SETBACK OF THE PROPERTY 
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LINE, WHERE IT SHOULD BE AT LEAST AN ADDITIONAL 35, 40 FEET. 
          IN THE PRINTED MATERIAL PROVIDED IN JUNE, THE TERM UNDISTURBED ONE ACRE BUFFER WAS MENTIONED AT TIMES. STAFF SUGGESTED IT BE INCLUDED RECORDED DOCUMENT I WAS TOLD TO LISTEN TO THE TAPE IT REFERENCE TO ONE ACRE BUFFER COVERING MOST OF THE REMAINING TREES TO THE SOUTHEAST. AFTER CONSIDERATION, WE CAME UP WITH A BETTER SOLUTION TO ENSURE THE TREES ARE PRESERVED. 
          VOLUME ] ALL BLOCKS WERE OVER AN ACRE. SORRY, THEIR SOLUTION WAS TO MAKE ALL LOTS OVER ONE ACRE AND HAVE A HYBRID PERMIT TO CUT THE TREES. THE LOTS WERE ALREADY ONE ACRE. NO DISCUSSION OR ANYTHING. YOU COULD TAKE THIS TO MEAN NO BUFFER WAS REQUIRED. 
          WHAT IS BEING GIVEN IN RETURN IS ELIMINATING THE BUFFER. NOTHING. 
          THEREFORE, THE BUFFER SHOULD HAVE BEEN RECORDED. A BETTER SOLUTION WAS MENTIONED AND THEN THEY SAID, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO TAKE DOWN THE TREES. THEY DID NEED TO FOR WHATEVER IMPROVEMENT THEY ARE DOING, ANY GUESSES ON HOW LONG BEFORE THE TREES ARE LOST? THIS IS JUST NOT BOARD NEEDS A YES TO FIVE QUESTIONS. ONE OF THE QUESTIOS IS, THE VARIANCE WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY DIMINISHED PROPERTY VALUES OR ALTER THE CENTRAL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA OF THE SITE. 
          THE RESPONSE GIVEN WAS, THE UNDISTURBED ONE ACRE BUFFER AND REPLANTING WILL RESTORE RATHER THAN DIMINISHED PROPERTY VALUES AND THE CHARACTER OF THIS AREA. IF YOU REMOVE THE BUFFER, THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION WOULD BE NO. NO ANSWER WOULD REQUIRE DISAPPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE. AT THE OCTOBER 21 MEETING, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, I AM QUOTING WHAT YOU SAID, WE EVEN LOOK AT WHERE THE PROPERTY ENDS AND WHERE THE BUFFER WAS THAT PUT ME AT EASE. DID YOU NOT REALIZE WHAT YOU ARE VOTING FOR? THE MOTION NEVER MENTIONED REMOVING THE BUFFER CONDITION. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE MORE TO SAY. AT LEAST PUT A TEMPORARY STOP TO WHAT IS GOING ON. 
          >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. IF YOU WOULD TURN YOUR PAPERS INTO THE CLERK. WHO IS NEXT? GOOD MORNING. 
          >> MORNING. DENISE REGARDS TO SHOALS BOULEVARD BEING CHANGED INTO A PARKWAY , WE HAVE FOR 44 YEARS BEEN TAKING LEFT-HAND TURN FROM OUR STREET. 
          I RECENTLY FOUND THROUGH A NEIGHBORLY PHONE CALL THAT ACCESS WILL BE TAKEN AWAY FROM US. I FEEL THAT IS A SAFETY HAZARD . THEY WANT US TO MAKE U-TURNS. ACCORDING TO THE INTERNET I LOOKED UP, U-TURNS ARE NOT SAFE. THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO, TO TAKE RATHER THAN LEFT TURNS, TO TAKE U-TURNS. IT MEANS EMERGENCY VEHICLES, CENTRAL SERVICES PEOPLE, DELIVERIES, GUESTS, THERE ARE NO LONGER ABLE TO TAKE THAT LEFT-HAND TURN. WE ALL HAVE TO LEARN A NEW ROUTE. IT WILL TAKE LONGER FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES TO GET TO US AND WE HAVE A REPORT FROM THE COUNTY, WE HAVE A TROUBLED YOUTH AREA ON OUR STREET, WE HAVE ELDERLY, WE HAVE A TWO-MONTH-OLD BABY WHO SUSTAINED SURGERIES, EXCUSE ME, AND, UM, WE'VE HAD 180 POLICE CALLS, UM, SEVERAL ARE FOR MY NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR WHO HAS A TENDENCY TO SET FIRES. TWO IN MY YARD AND TWO BEHIND MALLARD THIS PAST JUNE. SO I FEEL EMERGENCY VEHICLES GETTING TO MY HOUSE IS ESSENTIAL. IF THEY FORGET THEY CAN'T TURN LEFT AFTER 44 YEARS, THEY WILL HAVE TO GO AROUND HORTENSE CIRCLE, WHICH IS A 2 1/2 MILE ROUTE TO GET BACK TO US. CORTEZ CIRCLE, WHICH HAS 44 HOMES, TWO ENTRANCES WHERE THEY CAN TAKE A LEFT OR RIGHT, SEVILLA DRIVE WILL HAVE NO INCHES ONTO THE BULLET FOR WHERE THEY CAN TURN LEFT AND THERE IS NO OTHER STREET IN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO BOTH SIDES OF THE PARKWAY. IT WOULD BE OUR STREET DENIED THIS ACCESS. UM, WHAT ELSE? I HAVE FORGOTTEN. UM, I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE POLICE REPORTS . THE MEDIAN IS NOT WIDE ENOUGH FOR ALL MY YARD SERVICE PEOPLE AND EVERYBODY HAS TRAILERS, YOU WILL BE BLOCKING THE LEFT-HAND LANE WAITING TO MAKE U-TURNS. THE REROUTE THEY WANT TAKES US DOWN DOMENICO. THAT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD AS 
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OPPOSED TO THE BOULEVARD BEING LESS DEVELOPED . THERE ARE SEVEN CONDO ENTRANCES, TWO GOLF PATHS AND THE STREET, WHEN DELAYING, THAT YOU HAVE TO PASS BY GOING DOWN DOMENICO. YOU STAY ON SHOALS BOULEVARD, THERE ARE TWO ENTRANCES TO ONE CONDO DEVELOPMENT AND ONE GOLF CART PATH. THERE IS A LOT LESS POSSIBILITY OF HAVING ACCIDENTS, PEOPLE ARE THERE ALL THE TIME -- 
          >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> THEY ARE WALKING THEIR DOG. 
          >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> ALL RIGHT. 
          >> A MORNING. BETH AND I HAD THE IDEA ESPECIALLY WITH THE GREAT TURNOUT TODAY AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYONE WHO CARES SO MUCH ABOUT THE FOOD INSECURE IN THE COUNTY, ESPECIALLY NOW WITH THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, IT IS A BIG DEAL. I JUST THOUGHT THAT MAYBE, MAYBE, THE COMMISSIONERS COULD REQUEST AT THE MEETINGS ANY ATTENDEES COULD BRING FOOD AND DO A DROP OFF. I KNOW MORE THAN 125 PEOPLE ATTENDED OUTSIDE, IF THEY EACH BROUGHT A CAN EACH, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD AMOUNT OF FOOD FOR PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY, SO JUST AN IDEA OF A WAY TO HELP AND MAKE THINGS A LITTLE EASIER. 
          >> THANK YOU. NEXT >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS BILL FISHER. 10130 FLAGLER ESTATES CONTROL DISTRICT. I JUST WANTED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THIS PAST WEEKEND, ON SATURDAY, WE HAD A HAZARDOUS WASTE DISPOSAL COLLECTION . THERE WERE OVER 200 VEHICLES THAT CAME IN. ANGIE BROWN 300 SCRAPPED TIRES , THESE TIRES COME UP OFF THE SIDES OF THE ROADS AND THEY WERE DISPOSED OF PROPERTY. I JUST THINK THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE AWARE THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS AGAIN. PROBABLY IN SIX MONTHS. 
          MAYBE TWICE A YEAR, IF I CAN GET IT SCHEDULED THAT WAY. THAT IS 
          ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> GOOD MORNING. I AM NELSON FRANCE. 8585 SAN JOSE BOULEVARD. 
          I SERVED WITH THE JEWISH FEDERATION FOUNDATION OF NORTHEAST FLORIDA. THE PEOPLE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND NORTHEAST FLORIDA ARE HERE TODAY TO THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING AND VOTING ON RESOLUTION 22 WANT TODAY'S AGENA. IT SUPPORTS THE STATE'S DEFINITION OF ANTI-SEMITISM, ALSO KNOWN AS THE INTERNATIONAL HOLOCAUST ALLIANCE, THE WORKING DEFINITION OF ANTI-SEMITISM. IN 2016, THIS DEFINITION WAS MADE UP OF AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL GROUP OF 35 NATIONS, WHERE THEY RELEASED A REPORT. AS OF TODAY, MORE THAN 1200 ENTITIES WORLDWIDE AT ADOPTED THIS DEFINITION, KNOWN AS THE GOLD STANDARD DEFINITION OF ANTI-SEMITISM. IT INCLUDES THE UK, FRANCE, GERMANY, CANADA, GERMANY, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, 37 STATE GOVERNMENTS, INCLUDING FLORIDA AND 98 SITTING COUNTY GOVERNMENT , INCLUDING ST. 
          AUGUSTINE. I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO SUPPORT GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES AND RESPONDING TO ANTI-SEMITISM. ANTI-SEMITISM IS A CERTAIN PERCEPTION OF JEWS WITH COMMUNITY INSTITUTIONS AND FACILITIES. I RECOGNIZE ONLY HAVE 90 SECONDS LEFT BUT I WANT TO GET THROUGH WHAT THE 11 EXAMPLES ARE SO THOSE IN THE PUBLIC AND THOSE ON THE DAIS UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. HERE ARE THE 11 EXAMPLES. ONE, CALLING FOR AIDING OR JUSTIFYING THE KILLING OR HARMING OF JEWS IN THE NAME OF A RADICAL IDEOLOGY OR AN EXTREMIST VIEW OF RELIGION, MAKING DEMONIZING OR STEREOTYPICAL ALLEGATIONS ABOUT JEWS , SUCH AS THE POWER OF JEWS COLLECTIVE. ACCUSING JEWS , AS A PEOPLE, OF IMAGINED DOOR REAL WRONGDOING COMMITTED BY A SINGLE JEWISH PERSON OR GROUP. DENYING THE FACT, SCOPE AND MECHANISMS OR INTENTIONALITY OF THE GENOCIDE OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE AT THE HANDS OF THE NATIONALIST SOCIALIST GERMANY AND ITS SUPPORTERS AND ACCOMPLICES DURING WORLD WAR II, ALSO KNOWN AS THE HOLOCAUST OR SHOW UP ACCUSING ISRAEL AS A STATE OF 
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INVENTING OR EXAGGERATING THE HOLOCAUST, DENYING THE JEWISH PEOPLE THEIR RIGHT TO SELF-DETERMINATION, APPLYING DOUBLE STANDARDS BY REQUIRING A BEHAVIOR NOT EXPECTED OR DEMANDED OF ANY OTHER DEMOCRATIC NATION, USING THE SYMBOLS AND IMAGES ASSOCIATED WITH CLASSIC ANTI-SEMITISM TO CHARACTERIZE ISRAEL OR ISRAELIS, DRAWING COMPARISONS OF CONTEMPORARY ISRAELI POLICY OF THE NAZIS AND HOLDING INDIVIDUAL JEWS FOR THE STATE OF ISRAEL. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING RESOLUTION 22 TODAY. 
          ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US IN THE JEWISH COMMUNITY, MAY GOD KEEP 
          YOU AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] 
          >> YES, NEXT? >> JIM, LOOK OR, LOW VOLUME ] GOOD MORNING. I AM A MEMBER OF THE MAIN STREET BOARD OF DIRECTORS. I AM HERE TODAY REGARDING THE NONRENEWAL OF THE PERSONAL LEASE ON THE FLOATING DOCK . THE LEASE LICENSE WAS INITIALLY SET UP FOR TWO COMPANIES TO RUN A WATER BUSINESS . THIS TAXI SERVICE HAS NEVER COME TO FRUITION IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. THE CRA MEETING IN SEPTEMBER WAS DISCUSSED THAT THE MAIN STREET BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO A NONRENEWAL OF THIS COMMERCIAL LEASE AND WE ARE ASKING THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          >> YES? >> GOOD MORNING. 110 BEECHWOOD ROAD, ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA . I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF - LOW VOLUME ] , WE TALKED THIS MORNING BEFORE THE MEETING AND HE HAS ASSURED US HE HAS APPROVED OUR COMMUNITY CONCERNS AT AN UPCOMING MEETING AT A FUTURE DATE. 
          VOLUME ] MY CONCERN FROM MY UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE BEEN LED TO BELIEVE THE WALKING AND BIKING IS NOT SAFE. MY HUSBAND AND I WALKED AND BIKED THE ROAD ALMOST EVERY DAY FOR FIVE YEARS. 
          I USUALLY SEE ABOUT 15 OR LESS CARS IN THE HOUR I RIDE. THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN COURTEOUS, PULLING OVER TO PASS IN OTHER LANES. I HAVE NEVER FELT UNSAFE. THAT IS WHY WHEN WE WERE QUESTIONING IT, WE ASKED FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD CALMING STUDY THAT WAS REQUESTED FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO VERIFY THE SAFETY ALONG SHORE DRIVE IN MAY 2025. THE CALMING STUDY WAS DONE IN SEVEN DIFFERENT AREAS. THE HIGHEST TRAFFIC VOLUME WAS AT TWO LOCATIONS. ONE ON OTHER AT SHORE DRIVE. BOTH OF THESE ARE OUTSIDE OF THE PATH OF THE UPCOMING SHORE DRIVE . ACCORDING TO THE COUNTY'S ACTION PLAN, REQUIRED TO CONSIDER TRAFFIC CALMING, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GOT A SCORE OF 34, WHICH IS WELL BELOW THE THRESHOLD. THE PROPOSED CONTRACT FOR THE NEW DESIGN SAID THEY WANTED TO USE 95% ASPHALT AS A COST-CUTTING APPROACH. I HAVE TO ASK WHY OTHER IDEAS WERE NOT LOOKED AT , I.E., A SHORTER TRAIL WITH ALL PERMEABLE MATERIAL, ASPHALT IS A HARD NO AS WE PROTECT THE SENSITIVE WETLAND GREEN SPACE FROM FLOODING IN NOR'EASTER IS AND TIDES ON OUR PART. AS PER THE PLAN, IT IS NOW A FIVE FOOT ASPHALT WITH THREE FOOT ON EACH SIDE OF THE PERIMETER, WHICH IS A TOTAL OF 11 FEET. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN HELPING OUR CITIZENS AND PROTECT THEM FROM FLOODING, I SUGGEST YOU FIX THINGS BY PLANTING MORE NATIVE AND NATURAL PLANTS TO HOLD THE RIVER AND ITS BANKS. MANY COMPANIES HIRED BY ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAVE BEEN PUSHING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE RIVER. ALSO MENTIONED IS THE SURVEY FROM 2020 AND 2022. THE LAST SURVEY DONE BY THE COUNTY , THE RESULTS ARE SOMETIMES STATED STATISTICALLY, ARE NOT VALID OR RELIABLE. IF YOU WOULD HAVE GIVEN CLEAR INFORMATION ON WHAT WAS PROPOSED, INSTEAD OF A LOT OF OPEN-ENDED AND LEADING QUESTIONS, WE KNOW THAT SURVEY RESULTS CAN BE MANIPULATED TO HARM AND THE LAST ONE CERTAINLY PROVED IT. YOU WANT US TO WEIGH IN, A WELL-ORGANIZED WEBSITE, PLANNED MEETINGS WITH SEVERAL WEEKS' NOTICE WOULD BE THE BEST THAT. NOT THE 5:00 P.M. MEETING ON VALENTINES DAY LIKE YOU DID LAST YEAR. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR. 
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          >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DANIEL MILLER, 2104 PARK STREET, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, 32204. GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          MY NAME IS DANIEL MILLER. I SERVE AS THE CHAIR OF THE JEWISH FEDERATION. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY TO SUPPORT ADOPTING THE INTERNATIONAL HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE ALLIANCE WORKING DEFINITION OF ANTI-SEMITISM. 
          FORK -- FOR OUR COMMUNITY, IT IS NOT AN ABSTRACT POLICY. IT IS DEEPLY PERSONAL. IN RECENT YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN THE RISE OF ANTI-SEMITIC INCIDENCES CLOSE TO OUR HOME , HARASSMENT OF STUDENTS AND WRITER ONLINE. THAT MAKES MANY IN OUR COMMUNITY FEEL UNSAFE. WE'VE HEARD FROM PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE ANXIOUS, JUST TO IDENTIFY AND EXPRESS THEIR IDENTITY. THE DEFINITION DOESN'T CREATE NEW LAWS OR LIMIT FREE SPEECH. IT SIMPLY HELPS LEADERS , EDUCATORS, INSTITUTIONS RECOGNIZE ANTI-SEMITISM HAPPENS SO WE CAN RESPOND WITH CLARITY AND CONSISTENCY. IT GIVES US OUR CITY, OUR COUNTY, THE LANGUAGE TO SAY, WE SEE THIS . WE UNDERSTAND THIS. WE WILL NOT TOLERATE HATE. BY ADOPTING THE DEFINITION, YOU SEND A POWERFUL MESSAGE THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY STANDS WITH ITS JEWISH RESIDENTS BACK AND ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES WITH SAFETY, DIGNITY IN THIS MANNER. ON BEHALF OF THE JEWISH FEDERATION AND FOUNDATION OF EAST FLORIDA AND THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WE REPRESENT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP . I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS IMPORTANT STEP. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> GOOD MORNING. MARENO O'CONNOR, 4 TO 6 32084. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT RECREATIONAL VEHICLES VERSUS PARK MODELS AND THE AMBIGUITY OF TERMINOLOGY. 
          THANK YOU. THE LOCATION IS 4350 COASTAL HIGHWAY 
          >> REPORTER: >> AND I STOP YOU FOR A SECOND? 
          >> I THINK WE HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA? YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THAT AGENDA ITEM COMES UP, 
          SORRY. >> SORRY. 
          >> SORRY ABOUT THAT, MY FAULT. WE WILL WAIT FOR THE AGENDA ITEM TO, BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THE PARK. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT 
          TO TALK ABOUT? >> UNDER AGENDA ITEM 4. 
          >> IT IS AGENDA ITEM 4. I APOLOGIZE. 
          >> CAN YOU BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING? 
          >> SHE IS NOT SPEAKING ABOUT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE, SHE WAS SPEAKING ABOUT AN ACTUAL PLACE. DOES SHE DO THAT IN GENERAL OR DOES SHE DO THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PARK MODELS? 
          >> IT IS AT YOUR DISCRETION. ITEM NUMBER 4 IS AN AGENDA ITEM. 
          IT IS AT YOUR DISCRETION. >> I WOULD TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT. I THINK SHE SPECIFICALLY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT SOLANA BEACH. YOU ARE DOING THE AGENDA ITEM SO MAYBE GOOD MORNING, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND SHARE, THE RECENTLY CITY HAD A WEEK WHERE PEOPLE CAME AND SPOKE TO US AT COFFEE WITH THE COMMISSIONER. A CONCERN I HAVE, FOUR MILE ROAD THE NEW CLINIC WILL BE OPENING , THERE IS ALSO GOING TO BE A HIGH 
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RISE OF APARTMENTS THAT IS ON FOUR MILE ROAD. WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF THIS TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING TO BE VERY HECTIC BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE WILL BE LIVING THERE. MORE PEOPLE WILL NEED TO GET ON WEST KING STREET. THE THRESHOLD TO GETTING TO 95 , PEOPLE WILL BE RACING TO GET AROUND THE CORNER AND RACING OUT . I AM COMING BEFORE YOU TO ASK THAT YOU ASSIST IN GETTING YOUR STREETS AND GROUNDS PERSON TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT . I WAS TOLD, YEARS AGO, SOMEONE ASKED FOR A STOPLIGHT BUT IT IS TOO CLOSE TO THE RAILROAD TRACK TO PUT A RED LIGHT , BUT IF WE GET A THREE WAY STOP THERE, WE CAN PREVENT ACCIDENTS FROM OCCURRING. ALSO, AT PALMER STREET, A LIGHT DESIGNED TO HAVE AN ARROW TO TURN, THOSE ARROWS ARE NOT ACTIVATED AND I WILL ASK THAT YOU ACTIVATE THE ARROW TO TURN SO PEOPLE DO NOT DART OUT. WE ARE GETTING BUSY AND HAVE MORE PEOPLE LIVING IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT SAFER ON OUR STREETS BECAUSE THERE IS MORE TRAFFIC. IF YOU COULD DO THOSE THINGS. 
          ONE LAST THING, THIS LADY TOLD ME, WHERE THE BLUE HAND COMES TO THE WEST AUGUST STREET , WHICH I AM VERY GLAD ABOUT, THERE IS A CROSSWALK BECAUSE PEOPLE AT THE PARK ALL KINDS OF PLACES TO GET THERE . WE NEED THOSE FLASHERS PUT THEIR . SHE ASKED ME TO GET SOME FLASHES FOR THE CROSSWALK . BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I WENT FOR TWO YEARS GETTING THE FLASHES AND ALL THAT BY SHILOH CHURCH , SHE SAID IF I COULD DO IT FOR THEM, I COULD COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND ASKED YOU DO IT FOR THAT SECTION AS WELL. THAT IS MY CONCERN. I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU DO. I PRAY FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT IS HARD TO BE IN PUBLIC OFFICE . WE ARE NOT ALWAYS POPULAR THAT WE DO THE BEST WE CAN . THANK YOU FOR THIS 
          MOMENT IN TIME. >> THANK YOU . 
          >> GOOD TIME TO LOOK AT MIKE, OR GREG? I DO NOT SEE GREG HERE. WE 
          GOT A THUMBS UP. >> I RETURNED FROM SPENDING TWO WEEKS IN NEW JERSEY, AS CHAIRMAN OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TRIED TO GET A REPUBLICAN ELECTED IN THAT STATE SO THEY CAN HAVE A FREE STATE LIKE WE DO FOR AND YOU CAN'T STOP PEOPLE FROM MOVING FROM NEW JERSEY TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND OUR VOLUNTEERS HAVE CALLED 50,000 RESIDENTS , VOTERS IN NEW JERSEY TO GET THEM TO VOTE. WHICH BRINGS UP ST. JOHNS COUNTY TONE AND WHAT IS GOING ON. I FOUND OUT FIVE COUNTIES IN NEW JERSEY HAVE BOMB THREATS CALLED INTO THEIR ELECTION SITES TO STOP VOTING FROM HAPPENING. 
          WHICH I HAVE SPOKEN TO SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY ABOUT , TONE AND POLITICS, WHAT I WANT TO ADDRESS QUICKLY . HURT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CITY FROM PEOPLE IN OFFICE BEING ATTACKED AND THE RHETORIC , WE'RE GETTING READY TO HAVE OUR ELECTION CYCLE NEXT YEAR AND LAST YEAR WAS PRETTY BRUTAL. 
          THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL ARRESTS, WE HAD AN ARREST MADE PRIOR TO CHARLIE KIRK MEMORIAL WHERE SOMEONE THREATENED TO DO A MASS SHOOTING. AS YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR AND JOSEPH, SOMEONE WAS ARRESTED FOR FIVE SERIOUS THREATS OF HARM AGAINST OUR COMMISSIONERS. THIS NEEDS TO STOP. WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO THE MOTORS AND THE CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY , AS WE GO THROUGH ELECTIONS, AS WE GO THROUGH POLICIES, WE MUST ALL MAKE AN OATH WITH EACH OTHER THAT, WHEN WE DISAGREE, WE WILL NOT DO IT WITH THIS AGREEABLENESS. WHEN WE SEE IT , WE SHOULD CALL IT OUT REGARDLESS OF WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR, EVEN IF IT IS FOR OURSELVES, IF YOU'RE IN A POLITICAL RACE AND SOMEONE IS ATTACKING YOUR OPPONENT IN A WAY THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE, YOU SHOULD BE CALLING THEM OUT AND STOPPING THE BEHAVIOR. LAST YEAR, THAT DID NOT HAPPEN AND IT NEEDS TO STOP . I AM NOT POINTING MY FINGER AT ANY ONE PERSON OR GROUP OF PEOPLE COME HERE, IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE HAVE SEEN THREATS OF HARM BOTH DURING ELECTIONS AND AFTER THEM, TO PUBLIC OFFICIALS , AND IT WILL COST SOMEONE THEIR LIVES IN OUR COMMUNITIES . IT IS INAPPROPRIATE AND IT IS HAPPENING ACROSS OUR COUNTRY. IT NEEDS TO STOP . WE ARE GOING TO DISAGREE, THAT IS FINE WE ARE POLICY DISAGREEMENTS, WE HAVE TO STOP MAKING IT PERSONAL . I AM CALLING ON EVERYONE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO START BEING AGREEABLE WHEN WE ARE DISAGREEING . I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I HOPE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. 
          >> THANK YOU . 
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          >> 171 POPULAR ROAD, TRAN THREE SOUTH, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M HERE FOR, I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER MURPHY FOR RESPONDING TO A HUGE NUMBER OF EMAILS AND COMMENTS ON MINE, MY LETTERS, HE HAS BEEN LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE APPRECIATE IT . SOMETIMES YOU GET ATTACKED AND I DO NOT THINK THAT IS RIGHT, I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE BY THE COUNTY IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, MAY , JUNE, RESULTS ON JUNE 22ND, A MONTH LATER, THIS TRAIL THING CAME UP , THE CONTRACT CAME UP AND ONE OF THE BIG REASONS THEY ARE CLAIMING THEY NEEDED TRAIL IS FOR SAFETY BUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY DOES NOT SHOW THAT AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE WHILE YOUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, IT IS INTERESTING, IT IS UPSETTING , WE ARE NOT HEARING ANYTHING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY FROM PARKS AND REC, I DO NOT SEE IT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN THEIR NEW PARK RAIL THINGS , ALL THE NEW PLANS, THE TRAIL STUDY -- PARDON ME , THE TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWED THERE IS MINIMAL SPEED , IT IS SO MINIMAL SHORE DRIVE DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR THE STUDY, NONE OF THE CALMING MEASURES, 
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
          >> THANK YOU. >> I AGREE. I AGREE ABOUT CIVILITY . ON APRIL 15, 2045, COMMISSIONERS VOTED 300 DUE TO HIGHER CONFLICTED COMMISSIONERS VOTED TO SEND SEVERAL OF CHAIR JOSEPH'S IDEAS TO A CONSULTANT, ONLY 13 DAYS LATER, ON MAY 31ST , 2025, AN INVESTIGATION BY THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE REPORTS A MAN "POSTED A THREADING IMAGE ON BLUE SKY SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT , ATHEIST PIZZA. " THE IMAGE DEPICTED CURRENT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND TAYLOR AND KRISTA JOSEPH , THE IMAGE POSTED DEPICTED A SWORD GOING THROUGH COMMISSIONER TAYLOR'S HEAD AND THEN ASKED GOING THROUGH COMMISSIONER JOSEPH'S HEAD WITH THE WORDING TOTALLY TORCHED BY THE PRO-COMMANDO MOB, TOTALLY EPIC DEFEAT . THE IMAGE ALSO SHOWS BLOOD COMING DOWN THE COMMISSIONER'S HEADS , EYES, MOUTH, AND THERE WERE THREATS TO COMMIT BODILY HARM TO ANOTHER PERSON BOTH OF WHOM WERE PUBLIC SERVANTS. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. WHO DOES THAT ? WHO EMPOWERED AND INSPIRED THEM ? WHAT DID COMMANDO KNOW AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT ? WHO BENEFITS FROM SUCH THREATS? ON OCTOBER NIGHT , 2025, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ARRESTED A SUSPECT WITH TWO FELONIES , CHARGED HIM WITH TWO FELONIES, CORRUPTION BY THREAT OF HARM AGAINST A PUBLIC SERVANT AND TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE, THE CASE IS PENDING IN CIRCUIT COURT . THE SUSPECT IS A CONVICTED FELON WHO PREVIOUSLY SPENT THREE YEARS IN PRISON FOR SHOOTING A GUN INTO AN AUTOMOBILE, RISKING THE LIVES OF THE DRIVER AND A SEVEN-YEAR-OLD LITTLE GIRL. CIRCUIT COURT RECORDS STATE THAT THE MAN MET WITHIN SHERIFF DAVID SHORE ON HIS PRIOR CASE AND MET 
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WITH TWO THEN COMMISSIONERS AND, WITH ANOTHER MINUTE LATER A COMMISSIONER, WHAT IS GOING ON? YOU TELL ME. I AGREE WITH DENVER ABOUT CIVILITY , WE NEED TO CHANGE THE TONE IN THIS COUNTRY, WE NEED TO RAISE THE QUALITY OF DEBATE, WE NEED TO STOP WITH THE VILE, VICIOUS IMAGERY AND ATTACKS. THE LACK OF SUBSTANCE , THE LACK OF ANY KIND OF SCHOLARLY DEBATE ON ISSUES . THE LACK OF ANY KIND OF RESEARCH BY THE COUNTY STAFF . THE LACK OF AND HIRING A CORPORATE LAW FIRM, AS OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY , ONE OF THE THINGS THIS DEFENDANT RAISED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, WAS HIS UNDYING SUPPORT FOR COMMANDO AS COUNTY ATTORNEY. THANK YOU, 
          LISA DILLMAN. >> -- THANK YOU, LADIES AND 
          GENTLEMEN . TO ANYONE ELSE ? >> WEST CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, THE RISE OF CERTAIN INMATES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY CONTINUES TO BE MORE IMPORTANT TO THE WEST -- SHERIFF THAN THE RIGHTS OF RESIDENTS TO SEE ALL ALL INMATE MUGSHOTS WITHOUT HAVING TO GIVE A NAME, THIS JEOPARDIZES THE SAFETY OF EVERYONE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, TAXPAYERS PAY FOR THE SHERIFF'S BUILDING ON LEWIS SPEEDWAY . AS WITH MUGSHOTS, ACCESS IS NOW LIMITED AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN VOTE IN THE FUTURE FOR A TRANSPARENT SHERIFF. AFTER SIX HEARINGS , TO PROTECT QUALITY OF LIFE IN ST. 
          JOHNS COUNTY, THE COUNTY FACES THREE LEGAL ACTIONS BY THE ROBINSON DEVELOPMENT . QUALITY OF LIFE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS CONSTANTLY UNDER ATTACK BY DEVELOPERS WITH MONEY, MONEY , MONEY. COUNTY POLITICIANS , INCLUDING THE SHERIFF, ARE BEING MANIPULATED BY CELL PHONE COMPANIES AND OTHER BUSINESSES TO INCREASE THEIR BOTTOM LINE DURING NIGHTS OF LIGHTS. NIGHTS OF LIGHTS SHOULD NOT BE RUN BY ST. JOHNS COUNTY OR ANY BUSINESS OWNER WHO DOES NOT LIVE DOWNTOWN IN THE CITY LIMITS OF ST. 
          AUGUSTINE . CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE RESIDENTS VOTED FOR CITY POLITICIANS TO REPRESENT US, NOT THOSE USING THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE TO MAKE A BUCK. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HAS COME HERE TODAY AND WILL BE SPEAKING ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD , IT IS DISCOURAGING TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD AND SPEAK. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ANSWER . I THOUGHT WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO CLAP. ALL OF A SUDDEN , WE ARE ALLOWED TO CLAP WHATEVER WE FEEL LIKE IT? WHAT IS GOING ON? YOU TREAT ONE PERSON ONE WAY AND ANOTHER PERSON ANOTHER WAY AND YOU JUST SIT THERE? THAT IS WHY PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO COME IN HERE, WHY BOTHER? YOU ARE NOT LISTENING , YOU WILL ONLY TAKE CARE OF MAYBE YOUR OWN DISTRICT, MAYBE NOT. I WANT TO SAY, TALKING WITH PEOPLE THAT COME, KEEP ON COMING, NOTHING MAY HAPPEN BUT YOU, AS A RESIDENT TAXPAYER, NEED TO EXPRESS YOUR VIEWS, HOPEFULLY, IF NOT, KEEP ON HAVING THAT HOPE THAT SOMEONE WILL REACH OUT TO YOU, NOT JUST WHERE THE REPRESENT A CERTAIN DISTRICT, WE VOTED FOR EVERYBODY THAT COMES TO THIS BOARD , THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I'M GLAD THEY ARE STILL BEING SPOKEN ABOUT, WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU, MS. TAYLOR, SOME OF YOU DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT BUT I HOPE YOU DID SOMETHING BEHIND THE SCENES. 
          [1.	Public Hearing * Ordinance amending the St. Johns County Park Ordinance, adding definitions; adding prohibition of smoking and vaping in St. Johns County beaches and parks; amending to include cigarette butts and vaping paraphernalia as defined litter. Article VIII, Section 2 of the Florida Constitution, and Chapter 166, Florida Statutes, provide Counties with the authority to exercise any power for municipal purposes, except if prohibited by law, and to adopt ordinances in furtherance of such authority. As of July 1, 2022, the Florida Legislature enacted Ch. 2022-13, Laws of Florida, which permits municipalities and counties to restrict smoking on their local beaches and in local parks. The Board has adopted Ordinance 2005-114, pertaining to public conduct in county parks (the "St. Johns County Parks Ordinance"). the Board has adopted Ordinance 2007-19, which was amended by Ordinance 2007-50, Ordinance 2009-60, 2013-25 and Ordinance 2024-5, pertaining to public conduct in county beaches (the "St. Johns County Beach Code"). At the St. Johns County Board meeting of August 20, 2025, appeared Charli Clay, a 7th grade student at Washington Classical Christian School, Izzy Howell, an 8th grade student, and Anila Lahiri, a history teacher at Washington Classical Christian School and the Civic Engagement Liaison at Anchor Faith Church, who advocated for prohibiting smoking and vaping on St. Johns County beaches. This is the first hearing and does not require a vote.]
          >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONNA, WE WILL 
          CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT . >> BACK TO THE BOARD FOR AGENDA 
          ITEM NUMBER 1. MR. TAYLOR ? >> MADAM CHAIR ITEM NUMBER 1, AMENDMENTS TO THE PARK ON ITS IN OUR BEACH CODE, YOU ASKED US TO COME BACK AND ADD PROHIBITIONS AGAINST VAPING AND SMOKING , WE HAVE TWO PLACES IN THE CODE WHERE WE ADDRESSED THOSE. THEY ARE THE PARK COORDINATES AND BEACH CODE, I WILL REMIND YOU THAT THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BY A SEVENTH GRADE STUDENT AT AN 
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EIGHTH GRADE STUDENT. AND THEIR TEACHER . GOING THROUGH IT, WE WILL CHANGE THE DEFINITIONS OF THE PARK COORDINATES, FROM SMOKE AND SMOKING THEY BEEN VAPING, VAPING PARAPHERNALIA, SECTION 20 WILL BE ADDED WHICH MIRRORS OUR SECTION FOR ALCOHOL PROHIBITIONS AND THIS WILL MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR SOMEONE TO BE USING THESE ON PUBLIC PARKS. WE ARE ADDING OR SUGGESTING WE HAD CIGARETTE BUTTS AND VAPING PARAPHERNALIA TO THE EXPLICIT THINGS THAT ARE LISTED SO THAT CAN BE BROUGHT IN LINE. WE ARE DOING THE EXACT SAME THING WITH THE BEACH CODE. EXACT SAME DEFINITIONS WITH BEACH CODE . WE ARE ADDING THIS SECTION TO THE BEACH CODE FOR WHAT IS PROHIBITED. IT MIRRORS THE FLORIDA LAW AND FLORIDA STATUTES. THIS IS THE SAME THING. LAST, WE ARE ADDING TO THE BEACH CODE FOR WATER SO WE CAN ENFORCE THOSE, THIS IS A FIRST READING AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          >> COMMISSIONERS TO COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? 
          >> I HAVE A COMMENT. IT HAS BECOME TRENDY TO BE PESSIMISTIC ABOUT OUR FUTURE. IT IS PRETTY WIDELY PERMEATED OUR SOCIETY WHERE WE JUST ASSUMED THE FUTURE WILL BE WORSE THAN THE PAST AND THE FUTURE GENERATION DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME VALUES FOR THE SAME WORK ETHIC, OR THE SAME WHEREWITHAL TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. AND YOU MEET CHARLIE AND IZZY WHO ARE SITTING RIGHT THERE AND COMMISSIONER TAYLOR'S SON JOINING THE NATIONAL GUARD, IN THIS POSITION AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER, I HAVE MET A LOT OF WONDERFUL CHILDREN, NOT JUST AS GOOD AS US, PROBABLY GOING TO BE BETTER THAN US. I AM WILDLY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT OUR FUTURE BECAUSE OF LITTLE GIRLS LIKE CHARLIE AND IZZY WHO CAME TO MEET WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND EXPRESS CONCERNS AND WORK WITH STAFF TO TAILOR AN ORDINANCE. I WANT TO COMMEND YOU GIRLS FOR TAKING INITIATIVE TO WORK WITH COUNTY GOVERNMENT , I AM VERY IMPRESSED AND BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU I AM OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. 
          >> I DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE PUBLIC, BUT IT WOULD BE FUN TO HEAR FROM THE GIRLS IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          >> WE WILL ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 . PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE 
          MINUTES. >> HI, CHARLIE CLAY . WE WANT TO THANK THE BOARD OF COUNTY ATTORNEYS FOR THE QUICK AND PROFESSIONAL DRAFTING OF THE ORDINANCE AND COMMISSIONER -- COMMISSIONERS WERE BEING WELCOMING AND SUPPORTIVE OF ME 
          AND IZZY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYONE 
          [2.	Public Hearing * MAJMOD 2025-07 Tocoi River Estates PRD. Request for a Major Modification to the County Road 214 Planned Rural Development (Ordinance 2006-45) to rename the project to Tocoi River Estates PRD and to reset the expired phasing for a 205-unit residential subdivision. Located northeast of the County Road 214 and County Road 13 South intersection. The application was heard before the Planning and Zoning Agency on September 18, 2025, and received a unanimous 6-0 recommendation for denial, with Member Perkins absent.]
ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1? IF NOT, WE 
          WILL CLOSE ANY . >> NO MOTIONS, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, THANK YOU. QUALIFIED JUDICIAL , COMMISSIONER 
          WHITEHURST? >> I MET WITH DIANE WILSON , CE WOODY WILSON, WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT , ALONG WITH OUR STAFF , I TOOK A MEETING WITH MOHAMMED, THE APPLICANT, AND MIKE ROBERTSON WAS IN THE MEETING DISCUSSING SITE LOCATION, HISTORY, PRIOR APPROVALS, TRAFFIC IMPACT, AND 
          CHARACTER . >> COMMISSIONER ? 
          >> A HANDFUL OF EMAILS , I HAVE TOOK A MEETING IN THE OFFICE WITH DIANE WILSON, WOODY WILSON, AND SOME STAFF, I HAD A MEETING OF MOHAMMED IN THE OFFICE WITH STAFF TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT COME OUT OF THE OFFICE, I HAVE HAD COUNTLESS MEETINGS , COUNTLESS PHONE CALLS AND TELL HIS CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS. 
          >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR ? >> I RECEIVED WELL OVER 50 EMAILS ON THIS , AND PHONE CALLS FROM NEARBY RESIDENTS OPPOSING, I HAD A MEETING WITH DIANE WILSON, WOODY WILSON , AND STAFF, AND WITH MOHAMMED AND STAFF AS WELL . 
          >> COMMISSIONER MURPHY? >> I HAVE HAD SEVERAL EMAILS OVER SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH NEIGHBORS A MEETING WITH DIANE WILSON, WOODY WILSON, AND STAFF, WITH MOHAMMED ALONG AND STAFF TO 
          DISCUSS THE PROJECT . >> I HAVE HAD FIVE EMAILS, ZERO 
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-- 50 EMAILS MEETING WITH DIANE WILSON, WOODY WILSON, WHO ARE OPPOSED TO OUR TEAM, AND MEETING WITH MOHAMMED, APPLICANT AND TEAM. WE ARE READY FOR THE ITEM. GOOD MORNING. 
          >> GOOD MORNING IN HEBREW. THANK YOU , DOUG BURNETT, ST. JOHNS MARGARET . HOPEFULLY MY POWERPOINT WILL RUN. EXISTING ZONE PROPERTY PRD, EXPIRED PRD AND WE ARE ONE OF THE COUNTIES WHERE, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, WHERE ZONING EXPIRES UNDER A PLANNED RURAL DEVELOPMENT OR PLAN ONE DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY GO BACK TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE. MANY CITIES AND COUNTIES HAVE A PRD AND IT EXPIRES AND REVERTS BACK, AND DISCOUNTS -- IN THIS CASE, RURAL , SO YOU CAN HAVE SOMETHING TO MAKE USE OF THE PROPERTY. AS IT SITS WITH AN EXPIRED PRD, IN THE SITUATION , AS THE LANDOWNER, WHERE YOU REZONE TO SOMETHING, OR YOU COME BACK TO TRY TO MODIFY AN EXISTING AND APPROVED ZONING WHICH IS A PLANNED RURAL DEVELOPMENT. I WILL ORIENT YOU QUICKLY TO THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY, I KNOW YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS BUT THE MIDDLE PORTION OF THE COUNTY TOWARDS THE RIVER TO -- LOCATION FROM STAFF REPORT, AERIAL FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT, YOU CAN SEE THE TWO YELLOW PARCELS THAT, IN THIS AREA, WEST OF 13 . THOSE HAVE BEEN SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED FROM THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THIS PROJECT . I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT AND SHOW YOU HOW THAT CAME TO BE. FUTURE LAND USE MAP , IT IS AGRICULTURAL. IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN , YOUR CONFERENCE A PLAN SPECIFICALLY SPELLS OUT -- CONFERENCE A PLAN SPECIFICALLY SPELLS OUT THE OBJECTION AND POLICY SECTION RELATED TO PLANNED RURAL DEVELOPMENT AND HOW THEY WOULD BE DEVELOPED , PARAMETERS FOR THOSE, AND YOU HAVE IN YOUR DEVELOPING CODE, REGULATIONS RELATED TO HOW PLANNED RURAL DEVELOPMENT ARE APPROVED AND THE PROCESS FOR THAT. I WILL TELL YOU QUICKLY COME IN THIS CASE, PROJECT SEEKS NO WAIVERS, NO WAIVER THAT IS INCLUDED WITHIN THE EXISTING AND APPROVED PRD . 
          THERE IS NO WAIVER SOUGHT IN CONNECTION WITH THIS MODIFICATION. EVERYTHING RELATED TO THIS APPLICATION COMPLIES WITH YOUR CODE IN YOUR CONFERENCE A PLAN -- COMPREHENSIVE PLAN , WE HAVE NO OPEN STAFF COMMENTS I HAVE SEEN IN THE STAFF REPORT, STAFF IDENTIFYING ISSUES THEY TYPICALLY WOULD , BUT MANY OF THE ISSUES YOU THINK YOU WOULD SEE AND MAYBE HEAR ABOUT ARE NOT TRIGGERED. FOR EXAMPLE , TRAFFIC , NO DEFICIENT ROADWAY SEGMENTS , I AM SURE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC WILL ASSERT OTHERWISE BUT FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT WE MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE AND THERE WERE NO DEFICIENCIES RELATED TO THIS APPLICATION. 
          LOOKING AT THE ZONING MAP , IT CURRENTLY IS A PRD, ORDINANCE 2006 45 AND APPROVED ALL THE WAY BACK IN 2006 ORIGINALLY, IT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS, KNOWING THIS WAS GOING TO COME THROUGH AS A PRD OR REDEVELOPED AS A PRD AND SOME POINT IN TIME FOR PERHAPS THE LAST 19 OR 20 YEARS 20 YEARS IF YOU COME FROM THE TIME THE APPLICATION WAS FILED TO WHEN IT IS BEING APPROVED. THE EXISTING PRD , WE WILL SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, THE ORDINANCE , YOU WILL SEE , RUN A COMPARISON SO YOU CAN SEE DIRECTLY. IT WAS APPROVED MAY OF 2006. FROM A TEXT STANDPOINT, 1031 ACRES, 266 ACRES OF PROJECT AND THE PRD. THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS WAS 205, THOSE NUMBERS ARE IDENTICAL AS YOU WILL SEE IN WHAT IS BEING SOUGHT TODAY . THIS IS THE MAP FROM THAT TIME PERIOD. YOU WILL SEE 
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THE GREEN AREA, YOU WILL SEE THOSE COME BACK UP IN THE CURRENT PLAN AND HOW THE SHAPES OUT IN THE CURRENT PLAN AND MOST NOTABLY YOU WILL SEE, IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT WHERE IT SAYS ON X, YOU SEE LOTS CLOSE TO THAT AREA WITH HIS OWN X IN GREEN, THOSE LOTS WERE TAKEN OUT OF THE CURRENT PROJECT AND THERE IS MORE GREEN NOW THAN THERE WAS IN THAT TIMEFRAME. OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT , THIS IS FROM HER STAFF REPORT, REINSTATE THE RIGHTS FOR THE 205 SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING UNITS. UPDATE THE PHASING. 
          RENAME THE PROJECT. CONTEMPLATE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CENTER TURN LANES, THAT KIND OF IMPROVEMENT, TWO ROADWAYS WHERE IT CONNECTS. REVISE THE STORMWATER AREAS , NDP MAP, CORRECT TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS , AND PROVIDE AN UPDATED MAP AND TEXT, BEYOND THAT, WE HAVE MADE CHANGES SINCE PZA AND I WILL GO TO THOSE IN A MOMENT, NO WAIVERS ARE INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS AND THE CURRENT PRD, WE MEET THE TECHNICAL CODE. THIS IS THE MAP LOOKING AT PZA, THE GREEN AREA IS DEPICTED IN GRAY BUT THE LARGE AREA OF PRESERVATION, THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN CONTEMPLATED. GENERAL SITE DESIGN, THIS IS A DRAWING THAT CAME UP POST PZA AND WE ARE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF 70-30, VERY EASILY FOR THE PROJECT. FOR THE AMOUNT OF RESERVE AREA THAT WILL BE HELD WITH ONE OWNERSHIP, EITHER THE HOA OR A SINGLE OWNER FOR AN AG USE. THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE BEING MET. EXISTING CONDITIONS, WE HAVE DONE NUMEROUS STUDIES AND REPORTS , MANY OF THESE WOULD BE BEYOND WHAT WE WOULD REQUIRE ANY MAJMOD AND MANY ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR ATYPICAL REZONING BUT A REALLY GOOD HANDLE ON THE PROPERTY AND UNDERSTANDING HOW IT IS TODAY, THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT NATURAL COMMUNITIES ON THE PROPERTY, ENVIRONMENTAL HAS CONFIRMED THAT. YOU SEE THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE WHERE YOU WOULD SEE DEVELOPMENT IS ALREADY -- EXISTING PRD VERSUS THE WE HAVE GROWN THE GREEN SPACE , I WILL SHOW YOU EARLIER ABOUT FLOOD ZONE X, LANGUAGE OF THE EXISTING PRD, THE REASON IS TO MAKE SURE WE MEET THE RESERVE AREA AND WE HAVE 650 ACRES OF THE OVERALL RESERVE, SPECIFICALLY ZONED AG TYPE USE OR SINGLE OWNER USE SUCH AS THE HOA. 
          TAKES A 30% . LOOKING AT THE SPECIFICS OF ONE MDP MAP DATA TABLE VERSUS THE OTHER, TO THE LEFT IN -- IT'S A 2006, I MISSED THAT CORRECTION 2006 PRD VERSUS 2025 MAJMOD , THE OVERALL AREA OF THE SITE IDENTICAL OR NEARLY IDENTICAL DEVELOPMENT AREA , NEARLY IDENTICAL 103 VERSUS 102.5. RESERVE AREAS THE SAME , PRESERVED WETLANDS , THE SAME. PRESERVED UP LENS , -- UPLANDS, THE SAME. THAT ADDITIONAL DRAWING TO MEET THE 70-30 REQUIREMENT . PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY REVISION -- EVERYTHING IS NOT A RED FOLDER ITEM, I BELIEVE THESE ARE ALL FULLY IN YOUR PACKET, IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, WHEN WE GOT IT TO STOP QUICK ENOUGH SO THAT IT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT TODAY. ONE THING THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT WERE SAID ABOUT NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS, CITIZENS, WHAT IS THIS MARINA AND BOAT DOCK? THAT TOOK MY CLIENT BY SURPRISE, IT WAS IN THE PRD BUT THAT WAS NEVER THE FOCUS, IT WAS IN THE PRIOR PRD AND SOMETHING THAT FOLKS OBJECTED TO DURING PZA . WE REVISED THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION TO THE LAND WEST OF CR 13 NORTH AND MAKE THAT AS AN EASY, CLEAR LANGUAGE, WHEN YOU READ LEGAL, 
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DIRECTION AND COURSE, DEGREE , YOU WONDER WHAT THE HECK DOES THAT MEAN, WE MAKE A REALLY SIMPLE, ABOVE LEGAL DESCRIPTION SHALL BE LESS THAN WEST OF COUNTY ROAD 13 NORTH THAT IS PART OF THIS PROJECT. 
          WHAT ELSE DID WE DO ? WE DELETED EVERYTHING REFERENCE TO MARINA AND BOAT DOCK IN THE PRD TEXT. AS WE WENT TO THE PROCESS, IT IS LITTERED THROUGHOUT THE PRD TEXT OVER AND OVER, THE CONCEPT ORIGINALLY APPROVED TO HAVE PUBLIC BOAT AREA, ACCESS TO THE WATER THAT WERE OBJECTED TO BY CITIZENS SO WE REMOVE THAT FROM THE PRD TEXT. OTHER SECTION, WHERE IT IS TALKING ABOUT ACCESS , AND OTHER SECTION, TALKING ABOUT COMP PLAN PROMOTING THOSE THINGS, ANOTHER SECTION THE -- ANOTHER SECTION WAS DELETED , REALLY INTERESTING, WHEN YOU LOOK , FIVE DIFFERENT PAGES OF SIGNIFICANT TEXT BEING DELETED THAT DROVE HOME THE CONCEPT OF MARINA , DOCK. THAT WAS TAKING CARE OF AT THE 70% RESERVE AREA, COMP PLAN ISSUE I BELIEVE CAME ON THE BOOKS AFTER THE ORIGINAL PRD WAS APPROVED. THE WAY WE HANDLE THAT WAS , MY CLIENT RETAINED THE DESIGN TO COME IN AND CREATE AN ADDITIONAL EXHIBIT. WE WOULD WITH MDP MAP TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS WHAT THE SITE WILL LOOK LIKE, WHAT IT DOES IS MAKES SOME OF THE LOTS THAT WOULD'VE THE LARGER SMALLER, IT MEETS ALL THE INAUDIBLE ] FOR PRD BUT REDUCES THE LAND MASS TAKEN UP BY THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS. AND LEAVES MORE AREA FOR RESERVE SPACE AND MAKES IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR AS TO WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. ADDING COLOR HELPS AS WELL. THAT OUTLINE IS CLEARLY 650 ACRES AS A RESERVE AREA, WILL BE HELD FOR SINGLE OWNERSHIP, HOA OR AG USE. 
          AND DRAWN IN IS A POTENTIAL TO EQUESTRIAN ACTIVITY FACILITIES ON THE NORTHEASTERN PORTION. WE REVISED THE PRD TEXT TO SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT AND ADDRESS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVISION. WE HAVE DONE THAT IN TWO PLACES . BOLDED IT ON PAGE FIVE , THIS IS IN THE STAFF REPORT, PURSUANT TO POLICY -- 70% OF THE SERVER SHALL BE HELD SINGLE OWNER ENGAGED IN A BONA FIDE AGRICULTURAL BUSINESS , THAT IS LANGUAGE FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THAT LANGUAGE, I BELIEVE, WAS ADOPTED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AFTER THIS PRD ORIGINALLY WAS APPROVED IN 2006, WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AT THE TIME WE HAVE COME BACK AND ADDRESSED IN THIS MODIFICATION. PROJECT IMPACT THIS IS INTERESTING , MY CLIENT PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO ANALYZING THE PROJECT IMPACT AND HOW THIS WINDS UP AS A BETTER USE OF THE PROPERTY THAT RIGHT NOW. IT IS AN 80% REDUCTION IN WATER USE. YOU CAN LOOK AT AGRICULTURAL AS IT IS THE USE RIGHT NOW VERSUS POTENTIAL -- PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL , 205 UNITS, A REDUCTION OF 98 MILLION GALLONS PER YEAR. THAT IS NOT FROM OUR SOURCES, IT IS FROM UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA. SOME OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WE BELIEVE IS INCLUDED IN THE CLEAN WATER STANDARDS. FLOODING AND EROSION, THIS WOULD BE PRETTY IMPORTANT , 60 ACRES OF ENGINEERED INAUDIBLE ] RIGHT NOW FOR YOU DO NOT HAVE STORMWATER PONDS, YOU HAVE ARGUABLY UNCONTROLLED RUNOFF FROM THE AGRICULTURAL ACTIVITY GOING ON NOW. YOU WILL WIND UP WITH 60 ACRES OF STORM WATER ENGINEERED PONDS. RIGHT NOW, THE WATER ROLLOFF GOES THROUGH DITCHES AND WINDS UP IN THE RIVER. SO, NOW, YOU WILL WIND UP WITH, THE RIVER AND WATER DISTRICT COMPLIANCE, 100% 
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IMPERVIOUS RUNOFF CAPTURE CONTROL DISCHARGE RATE AND REDUCES BLOOD RISKS AND POLLUTANT LOAD. STRONGLY REDUCE THE POLLUTANT LOAD COMING OUT OF THE SKY WITH CONTROL STORMWATER. 
          FRONTAGE ON COUNTY ROAD 13, 2200 SQUARE FEET, 100 FOOT WIDE VEGETATIVE BUFFER , DOUBLE THE REQUIRED MINIMUM ALONG COUNTY ROAD 13 NORTH. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SCENIC HIGHWAY, THE NORTHWEST SECTOR PLAN , THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, WHAT THE INTENT IS OF THE COUNTY, WE WANT TO KEEP 13 BEAUTIFUL, A LONG WAY TO ENCOMPASSING THAT, 100 FEET IN WIDTH, DOUBLE WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS ZERO VISIBILITY IMPACT. IT EXCEEDS THE 40 FOOT REQUIREMENT. IT HAS COMPLETE PRESERVATION OF NATURAL CANOPY , NATIVE CANOPY, UNDERSTORY VEGETATION, 13 . THAT COMMITMENT , A LOT OF TIMES WE TALK ABOUT BUFFERS , WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU WILL PUT IN A 100 FOOT BUFFER, YOU WILL CLEAR THE LAND FIRST AND COME BACK AND HOPE SOMETHING GROWS , THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS THIS IS LEAVING IT AS IT IS FOR THAT 100 FEET. 
          WHERE WE NEED TO MEET THE CONNECTION FROM THE ACCESS POINT TO CONNECT TO THE ROAD. OTHERWISE, YOU HAVE A SIGNIFICANT BUFFER . SEPTIC SYSTEMS , WE WILL BE HOUSE BILL 1379 COMPLIANT , THESE SYSTEMS PRODUCE NITROGEN LOAD EQUIVALENT TO 62 LEGACY SYSTEMS . YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN TRADITIONAL THINKING OF WHAT A SEPTIC SYSTEM ALLOWS OUT OF IT SYSTEM. IT WILL MEET THAT NEW , HIGHER REQUIREMENT. WE BELIEVE IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, 30 EXISTING HOMES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA WITH SIMILAR RURAL RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER , I THINK THAT, THAT IS WHY YOUR COPIES OF PLAN ALLOWS FOR PRD OF THIS NATURE WITHIN THESE LOCATIONS, SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS A GOOD THING, NOT A BAD THING IN THESE AREAS. IT CONTEMPLATES THEM AND PROVIDES FOR THEM AND SAYS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WILL HAVE REQUIREMENTS TO PROVIDE FOR THEM. PRD DESIGNED FROM THE AREA SURROUNDING BY PHARMA ENABLES HOME CLUSTERING INAUDIBLE ] EQUESTRIAN, CONSERVATION, EXPECTED, AI AREAS, 30 HOMES, ON THIS AERIAL YOU CAN SEE 30 HOMES IMMEDIATELY ABUTTING OR IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO US IN THIS LOCATION. TRAFFIC , 216 DAILY PEAK HOUR TRIPS FROM 205 HOUSES , IF WE LOOK AT THE UTILIZATION, POST DEVELOPMENT , CURRENT USE THIS IS ALSO IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, YOU HAVE A MAP YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE RADIUS IS DRAWN FROM THE -- MILES FROM OUR SITE. THERE IS NO BROKEN LINKS. 
          THERE IS NO LINKS WITHOUT CAPACITY. WE DO NOT CAUSE A PROBLEM WITH OUR CAPACITY THAT COMES FROM THIS PROJECT. TWO -- ENGINEER. FIVE-YEAR BUILDOUT. IT WOULD BE A PREDICTABLE -- PREDICTED INCREASE IN TRAFFIC. WE ARE COMMITTING TO THE TURN LANES ON BOTH CR 13 AND 214. SKIP THROUGH SOME OF THE POPULATION GROWTH . I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE REASON WE HAVE THIS ANALYSIS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP IN PZA, QUESTION ON WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE EXCEEDED THE AMOUNT OF PRD LOTS. AND WHETHER , AS A COUNTY, DOES THIS NOW TRIP THAT THRESHOLD , HAVE WE EXCEEDED THE NUMBER BECAUSE THE CONFERENCE A PLAN TALKS ABOUT ONLY SO MANY PRD LOTS IN A GIVEN YEAR, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE LAST FIVE-YEAR APPROVAL, HONEY RANCH IS 153 LOTS, OF THE QUOTA, IT WOULD BE 1.9% , THIS PROJECT WOULD BE 7.5% . TOTAL AFTER APPROVAL IS 258 LOTS, LESS THAN 10%, ALSO SOME ARGUMENT TO BE MADE WHEN YOU'RE COUNTING PRD LOTS EVEN THOUGH THIS IS AN EXPIRED PRD, ARE THOSE LOTS ON THE BOOKS, HAVE THEY ALWAYS BEEN 
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ON THE BOOKS, WHERE THEY WERE TAKEN OFF THE BOOKS SINCE 2006? KNOWING THERE IS 205 LOTS. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I KNOW YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. WHATEVER OF -- WHATEVER IS THE PLEASURE OF THE 
          BOARD . >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST ? 
          >> THAT LYSED -- LAST SLIDE WITH THE -- FOR OUR QUOTA, PRDS, IS THAT IN OUR COMPANY TO PLAN -- IS THAT IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE 
          PLAN? >> THERE IS A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PRD LOTS AND I WILL GIVE A MORE CONCISE ANSWER IN REBUTTAL AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT. IF I CAN . THE QUICK PART IS, YOU ONLY ALLOW SO MANY PRD LOTS IN A GIVEN TIME FRAME AND WE DO NOT THINK WE ARE NEAR EXCEEDING THAT LIMITATION. 
          >> OKAY , VERY CURIOUS , INTERESTING SLIDE . THANK YOU. 
          >> CAN I ASK THE ATTORNEY? THE PRD , WHAT COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST WAS SPEAKING ABOUT, DO WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO COMPARE THAT TO? WHAT IS THE STATUS? 
          >> YOU ARE STILL ACTING UNDER YOUR CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEY WILL ADDRESS MR. WHITEHURST'S QUESTION. 
          >>  THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT. 
          THROUGH THE CHAIR , COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, IN THE CONFERENCE A PLAN -- COMPREHENSIVE PLAN , IT IS A LIMIT, THE COUNTY SAID WE DO NOT WANT AN OVERABUNDANCE OF PRD UNITS, THEY PUT A LIMIT OF 500 THEY CALL IT A QUOTA BUT I SAY IT IS A CAP, SHOULD IT BE APPROVED, YOU WILL BE LIMITED TO 500 . 
          >> THE WORD QUOTA, I ASSIGNED TO QUOTA, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM, IT IS A CAP. 
          >> I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSPOKE, I WAS NOT ASSERTING IT WAS THE MINIMUM, I APOLOGIZE IF MY BRAIN WAS NOT ENGAGED ON THAT ISSUE . 
          >> I WAS TRYING TO RECONCILE IT IN MY MIND SO I AM CLEAR ON THE 
          FACTS. >> WHAT IS THE SMALLEST LOT 
          SIZE? >> THERE WOULD BE NO LOT SIZE LESS THAN ONE ACRE. I WILL PULL THE TEXT TO TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE SPECIFIED IN THEIR. 
          >> THAT IS OKAY, I WAS JUST CURIOUS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ? 
          LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT . >> PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 
          2. GOOD MORNING. >> ST. AUGUSTINE. WE NEED TO PUT A TIME LIMIT ON PRESENTERS . THE PUBLIC IS ONLY ALLOWED THREE MINUTES. IT IS GETTING OUT OF HAND , THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE LONG, LONG MEETINGS. THAT IS JUST A SUGGESTION. INTERESTING PRESENTATION. THIS STARTED IN 2006 AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND WE ARE COMING BACK TO GET A 205 UNIT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION. THE THING THAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, THE BOAT DOCK. HE WENT THROUGH THE LINES SHOWING THERE WILL NO BE A BOAT DOCK. NO BOAT DOCK. 
          HOW CAN YOU GUARANTEE THERE WILL NOT BE A BOAT DOCK IN TEN YEARS? I DO NOT KNOW HOW YOU CAN DO THAT . TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND LISTENING TO EVERYTHING, I AM NOT A LAWYER, THANK GOODNESS, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, AFTER YOU LISTEN TO MORE OF THE PUBLIC, WHO HAS KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IS GOING ON UP THERE NOW, AND WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE, NOT TAKING AWAY ANYBODY'S PROPERTY RIGHTS, IT IS ABOUT TIME WE KEEP SUPPORTING THE PZA AND THE PZA , 60 DENIED IT. MY CONCERNED IS ABOUT THE DOCK 
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GETTING IN THERE IN 10 YEARS WHEN WE'RE ALL GONE, YOU MIGHT BE HERE. I THINK , FOR THE PUBLIC, I WANTED TO SAY IT OUT LOUD , I HAVE BEEN THINKING THIS FOR A LONG TIME WHENEVER WE SWITCHED BACK TO HAVING THE PEOPLE PRESENT INSTEAD OF OUR STAFF , THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN DONE. BUT WE ARE LIVING WITH IT. TIME LIMIT. NO BOAT DOCK. IS THERE ANY WAY, LEGALLY , WITH OUR LEGAL PEOPLE , TO GUARANTEE THAT ? I DO NOT THINK WE CAN BUT I WANT TO ASK THAT BE GUARANTEED BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE WERE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT, AMONG OTHER THINGS , ABOUT THAT, EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET TO THE WATER AND GET THE BOAT OUT. LET THEM GO SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE THEY CAN GET THE BOAT OUT. THINK ABOUT THAT, I THINK YOU MAY VOTE 
          TO DENY. >> WE HEAR THIS A LOT, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT THIS QUASIJUDICIAL SO THE PRESENTER HAS AS MUCH TIME AS THEY WANT, BECAUSE IT IS A LEGAL BOARD MEETING , WILL YOU MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT ABOUT THAT? 
          >> THE PRESENTER , IT IS THEIR OBLIGATION, THEY HAVE TO SUBSTANTIATE THEIR APPLICATION SO WE ALLOW THEM THAT TIME. 
          >> YES, SIR? >> DENVER, PROTECTED ADDRESS, WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY , AS EVERYONE IS WELL AWARE AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONE IS OUR TAXES. 
          RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS ARE TAXED DRAMATICALLY . WE RELIED WAY TOO MUCH ON RESIDENTIAL TAXATION TO FUND OUR GOVERNMENT AND OUR SCHOOLS . NEARLY 86% OF OUR REVENUE COMES FROM HOMES , NOT BUSINESSES, WHAT ARE INDUSTRIES HERE? ONE AT THE AIRPORT. A DEFENSE CONTRACTOR, TOURISM, AND FARMING. THIS ELIMINATES A BUNCH OF FARMLAND , I BELIEVE WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP TO ELIMINATING ALMOST ALL OF THE FARMING IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY . WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR FARMS AND THE FARMLAND FROM RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. IT IS A MUST. WE ARE THE POTATO CAPITAL OF FLORIDA. WE WILL NOT BE IF THIS CONTINUES. OTHER DEVELOPERS ARE SEEING THIS AND PURCHASING LAND IN THE AREAS AND HOPES THEY COULD BE -- BUILD MORE HOMES IF THIS GOES THROUGH. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE ONE THING THAT YOU NEED TO VOTE NO ON TO PRESERVE OUR FARMING COMMUNITY AND OUR HISTORY IN THE SOUTH OF OUR COUNTY. WHICH IS , AS MANY KNOW, THIS COMMUNITY HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY THAT I HAVE BEEN HERE IN 2012 , IF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE THE 1980S, YOU UNDERSTAND IT. WE NEED TO PRESERVE WHAT LITTLE INDUSTRY WE HAVE LEFT AND FARMING IS THAT INDUSTRY. SO, I THINK YOU NEED TO KNOW . SECONDARILY, IF THIS WAS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THESE LANDOWNERS TO DO, WHY DID YOU NEVER GET DONE WHEN THEY HAD THE TIME TO DO IT? IT EXPIRED. GUESS WHAT ? YOU LOST YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO IT -- YOU LOST YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DESTROY OUR FARMLAND, NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT, THEY HAD THEIR CHANCE AND THEY BLEW IT, IF I WILL DO A BUILDING PERMIT ON MY OWN TO THE GARAGE OR PUT A SECOND THOUGHT MY HOME AND I HAVE ONE YEAR TO COMPLETE IT AND I DON'T, I DO NOT START CONSTRUCTION, I HAD TO COME BACK AND MAYBE I DO NOT GET APPROVED, THAT IS TOO BAD FOR ME IF IT DOES NOT GET APPROVED THE SECOND TIME AROUND. I AM TIRED OF SEEING THESE PEOPLE PURCHASE LAND, SIT ON IT FOR 15, 20 , 30 YEARS KNOWING WHAT WILL COME 30 YEARS FROM NOW AND SAYING, CAN WE KEEP DOING MODIFICATION, I WANT TO CHANGE FOUR HOUSES . IF YOU APPROVE THIS, THERE IS NO REASON YOU CANNOT COME BACK THREE YEARS FROM NOW WHEN HE SAID HE WILL BE DONE IN FIVE AND SAY, WE HAVE NOT STARTED, WE WANT TO CHANGE IT AGAIN AND MAKE IT 500 HOMES, DEPENDING ON WHO IS SITTING ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME. THE NONSENSE NEEDS TO STOP . I DO APPRECIATE THAT THE UPSIZE TO ONE ACRE LOTS BUT NOT ON OUR FARMLAND. WE NEED THIS FARMLAND IF WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FEED OURSELVES IN THE 
          FUTURE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU . 
          >> COME ON UP. >> GOOD MORNING, WE HAVE THREE 
          DESIGNATED SPEAKERS, TWO -- >> I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY 
          PAPERWORK. >> I SENT THEM TO TYLER . 
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          >> TYLER IS NOT HERE, SORRY. >> TYLER IS OUT OF TOWN. ANYBODY ELSE WHO COULD'VE GOT THE PRESENTATION AND REQUEST TO 
          SPEAK? >> CAN YOU FORWARD THAT EMAIL TO 
          ME ? >> DO YOU MIND STEPPING TO THE 
          SIDE ? >> WE WILL FIX IT IF YOU WILL LET US GO TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. 
          OVER HERE. MA'AM. WHO IS NEXT? COME ON. 
          >> STEVE POLLEY, SPEAK, IT SOUNDED AS IF THE MAIN ARGUMENT WAS, WE HAD THIS APPROVED IN 2006, DID NOT REVERT BACK TO THE OLD DESIGNATION, THEREFORE, I WANTED TO POINT OUT, PROBABLY LEARNED A LOT SINCE 2006. I CAN TELL YOU , IN 2005, WHAT HAPPENED ON THAT STRETCH. I VERY MUCH ENJOY MORE OF OUR RURAL LIFESTYLE , TO 10 , FROM $100 IN 2005 FROM WHAT IT IS NOW -- UNBEARABLE, I WOULD HATE TO SEE THAT IN THE AREA MY NEW HOME AND I THINK THE NEIGHBORS SHARE THE SAME FEEL AS I PEERED I WOULD BET YOU, THINK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED SINCE 2006 , SINCE THE INITIAL APPROVAL. CONSIDER THE DETRIMENT IT WOULD HAVE FOR OUR LIFESTYLE . THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. 
          >> THANK YOU. NEXT. NAME AND ADDRESS . 
          >> MORNING, STEVE, 13805 COUNTY ROAD 13 NORTH IN TACOI ON THE BEAUTIFUL ST. JOHNS RIVER. THE POPULATION IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS HAVE EXPLODED BY 30% , SUGGESTING NOTHING NEW FOR YOU FOLKS TO HEAR FROM AN EXISTING COMMUNITY WHO OPPOSES A NEW COMMUNITY PROPOSAL NEXT DOOR . THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT WE ARE DIFFERENT. OUR COMMUNITY IS UNIQUE . WE ARE FARM AND RURAL RIVER COUNTRY . OUR RESIDENTS POSSESS CRITICAL RESPONSIBILITIES IN A COMPLEX ENVIRONMENT WE CHOSE TO CALL HOME. YOU NEED TO SEE THIS DIFFERENCE AS WELL. I BELIEVE THE PROPOSERS OF TOCOI RIVER ESTATES WERE EITHER SEVERELY ILL-INFORMED WITH THEIR LAND PURCHASE OR THEY CHOSE TO IGNORE PERTINENT INFORMATION WHEN CREATING THEIR DESIGN. THIS OBSERVATION IS SUPPORTED BY THE FACT THAT THEY PURCHASED AGRICULTURAL LAND WITH NO GUARANTEE OF GETTING RESIDENTIAL REZONING. THEY FACE AN EXISTING COMMUNITY WHO OPENLY AND STEADFASTLY OPPOSED TO THEIR RESIDENTIAL PROPOSAL, NOT FOR FEAR OF NEW NEIGHBORS, BUT BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE AGRICULTURAL, ENVIRONMENTAL , AND WILDLIFE SENSITIVITIES THAT WE HAVE JOINTLY MANAGED FOR YEARS. THEIR PROPOSAL PRESENTS SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE SHORTFALLS THAT POSE POTENTIAL THREATS TO THE EXISTING COMMUNITIES, SUCH AS , BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PRESERVATION OF WETLANDS , OPEN SPACE, WATER ACCESS, GROUND AND RIVER WATER CONTAMINATION, THEIR PROPOSAL EXEMPLIFIES THE DICTIONARY DEFINITION OF LEAPFROG GROWTH , AND URBAN SPRAWL . PUT SIMPLY, IT IS AN ATTEMPT TO PUT A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE. FURTHER SUPPORTING THESE POINTS IS THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING FOUR TAKEOUTS FROM THE POLICY A.1, A POLICY DISCOURAGES LEAPFROG DEVELOPMENT AND DIRECTS GROWTH ONLY WHERE INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY EXISTS. .2.3 REQUIRES NEW RESIDENTIAL AND AGRICULTURAL INTENSIVE IN RURAL CULTURAL DISTRICTS TO BE CLUSTERED IN RURAL IN CHARACTER. .3.11 DEMANDS COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING LAND USES. .6 
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REQUIRES THE COUNTY TO CONSERVE AND PROTECT OUR AGRICULTURAL AREAS. THESE TAKEOUTS FROM THE PLAN CLEARLY CONFLICT WITH TOCOI RIVER ESTATES PROPOSAL . WE STAND UNITED WITH -- TO THANK 
          YOU. >> WE STAND IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO TOCOI RIVER ESTATES AND WE ASK YOU TO DO THE SAME . 
          >> THANK YOU. COME ON UP. 
          >> CHRISTINE WILSON . WILSON FAMILY FARMS , ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT . COMING AT YOU FROM A FARMING ASPECT. THIS GROUP PURCHASED ACTIVE, REVENUE-GENERATING FOR NOTING THE PRD WAS EXPIRING IN AN INDUSTRY THAT IS LIKELY TO RISK TAKE THE TRAFFIC COMING STUDIES DO NOT INCLUDE ANYTHING PERTAINING TO AGRICULTURALLY INTENSE ARROW, THE NARROW 214 IS ALREADY WITH FARMING ISSUES AND WE HAVE SEMITES , TRACTORS, HARVESTERS, COMBINES ON THE ROAD DAILY AND THAT STRETCH OF ROAD . 
          NOW YOU ADD IN CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT, RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC, ADDED DELIVERY SERVICES AND YOU HAVE CREATED A NIGHTMARE FOR US. 
          THIS WILL HINDER HOW WE OPERATE DAILY, ESPECIALLY DURING PLANTING AND HARVEST, WHICH IS YEAR-ROUND . REGULATORY WILL BECOME A BIGGER ISSUE , ADDING IN 205 HOMES ACROSS THE STREET AND FARM ADJACENT, MOST OF YOU LIVE IN TOWN, AGRICULTURAL LAND IN TOWN AND THE APARTMENT IS HARSH AT TIMES AND WE ARE HIGHLY RATED WITH SPRING PRACTICES, LICENSED AND TRAINED, HOWEVER, YOU AT 400+ RESIDENTS OF EXPENSIVE COMMUNITY, ALWAYS GUARANTEES CONSTANT REGULATORY ISSUES, ST. JOHNS COUNTY WILL BE BURDENED WITH COMPLAINTS . THROWING CROP DUSTERS, DRONE SPRAYING, STACKING IT ON TOP OF US WITH PROBLEMS . WE DO NOT FARM IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN , AROUND NEIGHBORHOODS FOR A REASON, THE WATER IMPACT STATEMENT HAS EUROS CITATION , I COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING TO BACK UP WHAT YOU STATED, YOUR NUMBERS ARE NOT ACCURATE COMING FROM A FORMER , YOU ARE MISSING AUTHOR INFORMATION, LACK OF PUBLISHED YEARS , YOUR NUMBERS ARE NOT A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF CROP ROTATION, YOU CHOSE CORN BECAUSE IT IS A HIGH WATER USAGE, WE AT WILSON FAMILY FARMS DO NOT EVEN COME CLOSE TO THESE NUMBERS, YOUR NUMBERS ARE INFLATED REGARDING FARMING, AND OUR WATER USAGE ALSO RESULTS IN ON YOUR TABLE , I BELIEVE THAT IS A BETTER TRADE-OFF AND FLOODING AND EROSION, LET'S TAKE OCTOBER, WE HAD 13 INCHES OF RECORDED RAIN, INCLUDING A KING TIDE ON TOP OF THAT, THE NATURAL DITCHES AS THEY ARE DID NOT HAVE FLASH FLOODING, WE DID NOT HAVE WATER STANDING IN THE FIELD, DO YOU KNOW WHERE ALL THE FLOODING WAS? IN RURAL GOLF VILLAGE, THAT WAS ONCE FARMING. IT ALSO FLOODED IN ST. AUGUSTINE BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND OVERGROWTH . THERE STORM RETENTION PONDS ONLY BENEFITED THEIR DEVELOPMENT, DO THEY REALIZE THAT OVER 1000 ACRES OF SURROUNDING FARMLAND DRAIN IN THAT DIRECTION ? THE REAL QUESTION IS, HOW IS THIS DEVELOPMENT GOING TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE FARMERS? IT IS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT COMPATIBLE ON THE NARROW STRETCH, JEOPARDIZES EVERY FARMER IN THIS AREA, I SAY IT EVERY TIME , IF THIS GETS APPROVED, HE WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF COUNTY ROAD 214 FARMING. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU, NEXT. COME ON UP. 
          >> GOOD MORNING. >> COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE 
          MICROPHONE? >> I LIVE AT 13795 COUNTY ROAD 13 NORTH AND MY HUSBAND OF OUR HOME 29 YEARS AGO. WAS DRAWN BY THE PEACE AND NATURAL BEAUTY AND RURAL CHARM AND TRANQUILITY. OUR HOUSE NOW SITS EXACTLY TWO LOTS FROM THE PROPOSED COUNTY ROAD 13 ENTRANCE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT . WHAT TROUBLES ME THE MOST IS HOW COME OUT OF ALL THE PLACES THIS PROJECT FEELS DOUBLET OUT OF PLACE THIS COUNTY PROJECT FEELS, -- ACROSS FIVE MILES , THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL DOUBLE THAT IN A FRACTION OF THE SPACE. IT DOES NOT REFLECT THE QUITE WAY OF LIFE WE HAVE LIVED, NOT COMPATIBLE WITH OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IT IS LEAPFROG AND RISKS ERASING THE CHARACTER THAT MAKES THIS PLACE HOME . COUNTY ROAD 13 IS MORE THAN A ROAD, IT IS PART OF 
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THE SCENIC AND HISTORICAL HIGHWAY. IT IS NARROW, WINDING THEM ALREADY CHALLENGED BY SPEEDING TRAFFIC. THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE SITS ALONG ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS CURVES IN INAUDIBLE ] AND CREATE A PUBLIC SAFETY HAZARD . MORE IMPORTANTLY, COUNTY ROAD 13 IS ALSO DESIGNATED AS A HURRICANE EVACUATION ROUTE. THIS SECTION FLOODS REGULARLY . BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE, ADDING HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT HERE COULD TURN AN ALREADY VULNERABLE AREA INTO A CRISIS DURING AN EMERGENCY . WE ARE ALSO DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE ST. JOHNS RIVER AND CREEK, THE ECHO SYSTEM COVERS 260+ WETLANDS THAT NATURALLY DRAIN TO THE RIVER . 
          STUDIES CONSISTENTLY SHOW UNCHECKED GROWTH LEADS TO WATER CONTAMINATION , DEFORESTATION, AND BIODIVERSITY LOSS . WE CANNOT AFFORD THAT. THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY 214 -- COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LEAD DEVELOPMENT CODE SUPPORT THESE CONCERNS, THE POSTCONFIRMATION ELEMENT LIMITS NEW DEVELOPMENT AND HIGH HAZARD AREAS AND REQUIRES COOPERATION WITH EVACUATION PLANS . IT MANDATES PROTECTION OF THE SCENIC HIGHWAY. IT CALLS FOR PROTECTION OF NATURAL RESOURCES AND PROTECTS SENSITIVE LAND. IT GIVES THE COUNTY AUTHORITY TO DENY PROJECTS THAT DO NOT MEET THOSE STANDARDS. 
          >> THANK YOU . >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CHANCE AND WE HOPE YOU WILL KNOW. 
          >> YES ? >> YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WAIT, YOU 
          CAN COME UP >> 161 COUNTY ROAD SOUTH . I HAVE CALLED THIS ROAD HOME FOR 30 YEARS, WITH MANY OTHERS TO OPPOSE THIS PROJECT. NOTHING LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR MILES IN ANY DIRECTION, DEVELOPMENT, SCALE, OUT OF STEP WITH HIS COMMUNITY. SECONDLY, THIS DEVELOPMENT POSES SERIOUS SAFETY RISKS, ADDING 500+ CARS A DAY ON THESE NARROW ROADS WILL BE TWO MORE ACCIDENTS AND GRIDLOCK. 
          INAUDIBLE ] MANDATORY EVACUATION WILL BE A NIGHTMARE, TWO WEEKS YEAR WE HAD NOR'EASTER DROPPED SEVEN INCHES OF RAIN AND DITCHES COULD NOT KEEP UP, KING TIDE ON TOP OF IT, WATER WAS GOING ON COUNTY ROAD 13, TREES WOULD COME DOWN -- TO GET UP IN THE SAME TWO LANE ROAD. IT IS INCONVENIENT AND VERY DANGEROUS . LAST WEEK, A CAR PULLED OUT OF 214 AND CAUSE A SERIOUS ACCIDENT TO A MOTORCYCLE ON 13 AND THE ROAD WAS SHUT DOWN FOR ONE HOUR, THAT SAME INTERSECTION WITH MULTIPLE ACCENTS OVER THE YEAR AND CARS MISSING STOP SIGNS, VERY FEW DRIVERS ABIDE BY THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT WHICH IS 50 TO 45 TO 40 GOING SOUTH, SUBDIVISION INTEREST NOW ON THE SAME STRETCH WITH THE CURVES AND SPEEDING TRAFFIC, YOU ARE ASKING FOR A DISASTER. THIS IS FARMING COMMUNITY. I USED TO TEACH AGRO SCIENCE AND FARMS CLEAN THE AIR AND MANAGE THE WATER AND PROTECT US FROM FLOODING. THE COMP PLAN PROTECTS THESE AREAS FROM ENCROACHING URBAN DEVELOPMENT. 
          FOOD, TAKES WITH FLOOD PROTECTION AND SUSTAINABILITY, THE RAIN TWO WEEKS AGO, ROADS -- TO OUR HOMES, ROADS, RIVERS, FARMLAND IN ONE YEAR , IF THIS DEVELOPER GOES THROUGH, IT WILL BE MUCH HARDER FOR OUR FARMERS TO SURVIVE THE DOMINO EFFECT, WE SEE SOMETHING HOPEFUL HAPPENING TO OUR LOCAL FARMS ARE THRIVING, NOT JUST WITH CROPS BUT WITH DIMITRI, PARKER FARMS, FESTIVALS, PIZZA MAKING , ONE HAD A COMMERCIAL DURING THE SUPER BOWL LAST YEAR. DO NOT TURN 13 INTO ANOTHER 210. THIS COMMUNITY IS PAYING ATTENTION, IF WE LEARN FROM MISTAKES OF THE PAST, THERE IS THE TIME. ASKING YOU TO LEAVE WITH COURAGE, 
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VISION, RESPECT TO THE PEOPLE WHO CALL THIS PLACE HOME. 
          >> THANK YOU . YES, SIR. >> MY NAME IS DAN PALMER, 161 COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH, I HAVE LIVED IN THIS HOME FOR 25 YEARS, MORE HOUSES DOWN I LIVE SEVEN YEARS AND ALONG A NEARBY CREEK FOR SIX . GROWTH IS IMPORTANT, BUT IN THE TIME OF RECORD GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, IT IS IMPORTANT TO SHAPE AND CONTROL IT. THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IS WRONG IT IS NOT CONFORMING AND INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA . IT IS MANY MILES FROM ANYTHING LIKE IT . IT LEAPFROGS ACROSS LARGE TRACTS OF AGRICULTURE TO LAND AT THE EDGE OF OUR COUNTY AND ALONG THE RIVER. I IMAGINE SIGNIFICANT FURTHER ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT TO A FRAGILE ECOSYSTEM. THE DEVELOPER REPRESENTATIVES SAY THE ROADS WILL NOT BE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED, I HAVE MY DOUBTS. I DO NOT THINK THE FORMULARY CONSIDERS THE CHARACTER OF MUCH OF THE TRAFFIC , LARGE, AGRICULTURAL EQUIPMENT AND SUCH, OR THAT A SMALL TWO LANE ROAD IS A PRIMARY EVACUATION ROUTE IN TIME OF DISASTER STORMS. THIS WOULD MEAN HUNDREDS OF ADDITIONAL VEHICLES TRYING TO LEAVE ON ROADS LIKELY FLOODING AND WITH DOWNED TREES. WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE AREA. THAT PRETTY MUCH ONE HOME AT A TIME. EVEN THAT HAS HAD A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON ROAD TRAVEL. IN ADDITION TO THE MANY ISSUES AND REASONS THIS DEVELOPMENT IS WRONG FOR THE AREA, IS THAT IT WOULD BE THE FIRST DOMINO TO FALL OR DEVELOPMENT, IT WOULD OPEN THE DOOR TO FURTHER URBAN SPRAWL. 
          SILVICULTURE TO THE NORTH AND SURROUNDING AGRICULTURE WOULD ALSO BE OPEN TO PERMANENT LOSS. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT LOSS OF THE WAY LIFE IS NOT A SELLING CONSIDERATION, BUT IT SHOULD BE, I WOULD THINK THAT, IN PART IS WHY DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE CONFORMING AND COMPATIBLE . MUCH OF THIS AGRICULTURAL COMMUNICATION IS MULTIGENERATIONAL AND EXTREMELY IMPORTANT INDUSTRY. AGAIN , APPROPRIATE GROWTH CAN BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COUNTY, KIND OF LIKE BENEFICIAL BACTERIA CAN BE GOOD FOR A PERSON, BUT THE WRONG STUFF IN THE WRONG PLACE CAN LEAD TO A NASTY INFECTION. THIS PROPOSAL IS THE WRONG STUFF IN THE WRONG PLACE. I URGE THE COMMISSION TO DENY THE 
          APPLICATION. >> THANK YOU . YES, SIR. 
          >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, WE HAVE THREE DESIGNATED SPEAKERS , WE ARE REVIEWING IT, D AND WILSON, W DEANNE WILSON, DAVID, IF YOU HAVE CEDED YOUR TIME TO ONE OF THE SPEAKERS, YOU WILL NOT HAVE 
          OR THREE MINUTES. >> TO THEY GO BEFORE THE NEXT 
          THREE ? >> DOES NOT MATTER . 
          >> LET ME GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY, WOODY WILSON, 1297 COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH NOT RELATED TO CHRISTINE BUT I WISH I COULD SPEAK AS WELL AS SHE DID. I WANTED TO ADD MY VOICE TO THE CHORUS OF OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT. WHAT IT WOULD BE TO ST. 
          JOHNS COUNTY AGRICULTURAL LANDS, THE DEVELOPER HAS A PROBLEM, THEY BOUGHT THIS LAND ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY . DEEP IN FARM COUNTRY, NOT CLOSE TO INFRASTRUCTURE . NOT CLOSE TO SERVICES THEY STILL WANT TO BUILD A COUPLE HUNDRED HOMES . THERE IS NO FIRE STATION NEARBY . THE CLOSEST ONE IS 10.9 MILES. 80+ PERCENT OF THE CALLS ARE EMT. THAT WILL CREATE A HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE. THEY ARE COURTING SOME WATER USAGE THAT CHRISTINE QUESTIONED AND I DO, TOO . SEPTIC TANKS, WANT TO PLAE OVER 200 SEPTIC TANKS, DEUEL COUNTY IS SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS GETTING RID OF SEPTIC TANKS AND THEY WANT TO PUT 200 WITHIN A MILE OF THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE WATERWAYS IN THE STATE , THE RIVER ALREADY HAS ENOUGH PROBLEMS. THIS IS NOT SMART GROWTH . THIS IS THE EXACT SPRAWL THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS DESIGNED TO PREVENT . THIS PRD COULD BE THE POSTER CHILD OF LEAPFROG DEVELOPMENT , I HAVE HEARD THAT BEFORE . WE BELIEVE IN THAT PLAN, WE BELIEVE IN YOU , MANY OF US VOTED FOR YOU AND YOUR PROMISE OF RESPONSIBLE GROWTH. AT NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP THAT PROMISE. DID I MENTION, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, TOO, THIS THING EXPIRED NEARLY A DECADE AGO . TRY LEAVING THE 
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COUNTRY WITH AN EXPIRED PASSPORT. DRIVING ON 95 WITH AN EXPIRED LICENSE AND GETTING PULLED OVER BY ONE OF YOUR FRIENDLY PATROLMEN. RULES ARE RULES, EXCEPT APPARENTLY WHEN IT IS A NINE-YEAR-OLD EXPIRED APPLICATION . YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HEAR IT BUT NOT ACQUIRED -- NOT REQUIRED TO APPROVE IT, THIS IS OUT OF PLACE, OUT OF COMPLIANCE AND OUT-OF-TOWN , 
          PLEASE DENY IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU . 
          >> BENJAMIN AT 417 COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH, 6/10 A MILE SOUTH OF 214 AND MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 34 YEARS, MY REMARKS ARE INTENDED TO PUT A HISTORICAL FARM ON THE SCALE YOU ARE USING IN THIS DECISION, TACOI WAS A SETTLEMENT BEFORE THE SPANISH CAN AFFORD AND IN 1602, FIVE YEARS BEFORE JAMESTOWN, A COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED THAT WAS ONE OF THREE FRESHWATER SETTLEMENTS ON CHURCHES WHICH OF 200 CHRISTIANS . AT THE TIME, THE NATION STRETCH FROM SAINT AUGUSTINE IN THE EAST TO THE RIVER ON THE WEST, AND WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL CULTURE, SURVIVING OFF OF GAME AND SMALL PATCHES OF AGITATION, BUT THE NATION WAS ANNIHILATED BY WAR AND DISEASE, TOCOI SURVIVED AND IN 1858, A GROUP OF MERCHANTS WHO BECAME FRUSTRATED WITH THE INCONVENIENCES OF TRAVEL INTO ST. AUGUSTINE CONTRACTED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A RAILROAD CONNECTING ST. AUGUSTINE TO THE STEAMBOAT IN TOCOI AND THE CIVIL WAR INTERRUPTED AND GREATLY DELAYED THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION BUT IN 1871 WILLIAM ASTOR PURCHASED IT AND APPROVE THE OPERATION, THIS OPENED A WESTERN DOOR INTO ST. AUGUSTINE AND CONTRIBUTED SUBSTANTIALLY TO THE SUCCESS OF ST. AUGUSTINE UNTIL 1892 WITH JACKSONVILLE, ST. AUGUSTINE, RIVER CHARLESTON AND SAVANNAH BY STEAMBOAT CAME UP THE ST. JOHNS RIVER TO TOCOI AND TOOK THE TOCOI RAILROAD OVER TO ST. 
          AUGUSTINE. THEY SAW PRISTINE FLORIDA LANDSCAPE, FEW FORMS FOR SOME WILDLIFE, MUCH LIKE WE SEE TODAY , AS WE DRIVE ON 214 . 
          THIS LAND FROM TOCOI TO ST. AUGUSTINE PRODUCE FOOD, TIMBER, FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND NOW FOR US FOR THE LAST 400 YEARS AND IS FERTILE, A CLIMATE THAT PROMOTES AGRICULTURE PROTECTION , TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST WILL CHANGE THIS LAND FROM PRODUCTION TO CONSUMPTION . STREETLIGHTS , YOUR LIGHTS WILL DIM THE STARS IN THE NIGHT SKY, AUTOMOBILES WILL PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS , THIS PRISTINE SECTION OF THE TRAIL WILL CEASE TO BE A LIVING EXAMPLE OF WHAT THEY DOCUMENTED CENTURIES AGO, PROVING THE REQUEST -- SEAL THE FATE OF MOST OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY , THE HISTORY OF ST. AUGUSTINE STRETCHES FAR BEYOND THE CITY LIMITS COME ALL THE WAY TO TOCOI AND THE ST. JOHNS RIVER, IF ST. AUGUSTINE IS THE FIRST GOES , TOCOI IS THE SECOND, AS YOU DISCUSS THIS, CONSIDER THE HISTORY OF THIS LAND WITH THE SAME WEIGHT YOU WOULD CONSIDER A DECISION REGARDING DOWNTOWN SAN AUGUSTINE. HENRY FLAGLER LIKELY LANDED ON A FERRY AND CAUGHT THE 
          TRAIN. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> DAVID HAS FIVE MINUTE AS A DESIGNATED SPEAKER. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON , THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR OUR PLEA. EVERYTHING EVERYBODY SAID ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE AREA IS 
          ACCURATE . >> NAME AND ADDRESS . 
          >> DAVID, 13300 COUNTY ROAD 300 NORTH. FOR 10 YEARS, EVERYBODY KEEPS THEMSELVES BUT EVERYBODY GETS TOGETHER . REALLY GOOD CHILI COOKING CONTEST LAST SATURDAY. HERE WE GO. PLAN IS LEAPFROG DEVELOPMENT, LOCATING 205 PLUS HOMES IN A REMOTE AREA FAR FROM EXISTING SERVICES , I CAN ATTEST TO THAT COME ALL TRAFFIC FROM THESE HOMES, INTO THE TRAIL STATE ROAD 13, THE ESTATE -- SCENIC AND HIS WORK HIGHWAY WOULD INTERFERE WITH THE MOTORCYCLES THAT DO 110 MILES PER HOUR DOWN THE ROAD. THAT TWO LANE RURAL SCENIC HIGHWAY WAS NEVER BUILT TO SUPPORT HEAVY COMMUTER TRAFFIC, DUMP TRUCKS, FARM EQUIPMENT , I THINK WE HAD OUR ROADS PAVED IN FRONT OF COUNTY ROAD 13 THREE YEARS AGO. 
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IT IS GETTING DUE AGAIN . ADDITIONAL WIND WILL RAISE THE RISK OF ACCIDENTS, CONGESTION, BECAUSE CR 214 IS A TWO LANE ROAD, THAT ROUTE WILL BE STRESSED AND THE COUNTY, OUR STATE MAY FEEL PRESSURE HIGHWAY CAUSING THE TAXPAYERS MILLIONS FOR EXPANSION . THE OLD RAIL LINE UNDERLIES PORTIONS OF 214, COMPOUNDING THE STREETS ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND INCREASING THE COMPLEXITY OF ANY EXPANSION. 
          THERE IS NO SEWER OR CENTRAL WATER SERVICE IN THE AREA . THE PROJECT MUST RELY ON MORE THAN 200 FANCY ONES NOW , FANCY SEPTIC SYSTEMS FOR PRIVATE WELLS . PULLING WATER FROM THE AQUIFER ON THAT SCALE WILL STRESS GROUNDWATER RESOURCES LOWERING WATER TABLES AND AFFECTING THE OTHER NEARBY WELLS . SEPTIC DISCHARGE , STORMWATER RUNOFF MAY LEAD TO NITROGEN, PHOSPHORUS , AND POLLUTANTS INTO THE WETLANDS AND TRIBUTARIES ULTIMATELY DEGRADING THE WATER QUALITY OF THE ST. JOHNS RIVER WHICH WE KNOW IS ALREADY RECOGNIZED AS THIS IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH PRESERVING A RELATIVE, PRISTINE ENVIRONMENT SETTING NEAR ST. AUGUSTINE. A QUICK MENTION, I HAVE WONDERED HOW THE NATION'S OLDEST INHABITED CITY DOES NOT LOOK LIKE ORLANDO OR MIAMI RIGHT NOW. KEEP THAT IN MIND . THE LOCATION IS REMOTE, THERE IS NO FIRE STATION OR RESCUE FACILITY NEARBY. A POLICE RESPONSE TIME WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY DELAYED AS THEY ALREADY ARE. I BELIEVE THERE ARE TWO OFFICES THAT COVER THE ENTIRE AREA AND IT TAKES THEM 30 MINUTES TO GET FROM WHEREVER THEY ARE AT TO WHERE WE ARE AT. IF AN INCIDENT DOES OCCUR, FIRE MEDICAL, ACCIDENT, DELAYED RESPONSES COULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH. AT THE CONTEST , WE HAD A PACK OF MOTORCYCLE GUYS, AT LEAST 80 OR 90 MILES PER HOUR, ANYBODY PULLED OUT, SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE DIED. IT IS BAD OVER THERE. THE PLANT RURAL DEVELOPMENT , OKAY, REAL QUICK , SORRY, THE AREA IS AGRICULTURAL AND HISTORIC, INTRODUCING THE SUBDIVISIONS WILL DESTROY LIVING HERITAGE AND FRAGMENT NATURAL ECOSYSTEMS . WE HAVE ALREADY MADE CLEAR , WE WILL GET TO THE MARINA DOCKS AND FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, I HAVE TO SPEEDED UP , THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT EXPIRED IN 2016 , RESURRECTING IT NOW LOWERS MODERN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS , PROVING THIS SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT , EXPIRED ENTITLEMENTS SHOULD NOT BE AUTOMATICALLY REVIVED. AT THE END OF THE DAY , THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY PROMOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO DENY THIS PROJECT. THEIR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT IS CLEAR , CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY HAVE SPOKEN , WE CONTINUE TO SPEAK, WE WILL CONTINUE TO SPEAK FURTHER. WE PREFER TO RESOLVE THIS MATTER HERE WITH YOUR VOTE . IF THIS IS FORCED THROUGH, DESPITE THE LEGAL , ENVIRONMENTAL , AND PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES, WE DO NOT RULE OUT ESCALATION, EVEN TO TALLAHASSEE TO PROTECT OUR RIGHTS, OUR ENVIRONMENT, AND OUR COMMUNITY. FOR ALL THESE REASONS, TRAFFIC, ROAD OVERLOAD, INFRASTRUCTURE, ABSENCE OF AQUIFER , SAFETY AND EMERGENCY GAPS, HISTORICAL AND ECOLOGICAL PRESERVATION, LEGAL PRESIDENT, PHYSICAL EXPOSURE, I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO VOTE NO. TOP RIGHT HAND QUADRANT OF THE FARMLAND CONNECTS TO RAINIER , 2500 ACRES, WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP? LOOK AT WHO OWNS THE LAND. THANK YOU, SIR. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          >> TAKE YOUR TIME, JUST HURRY UP. 
          >> NO PRESSURE. >> THANK YOU. PO BOX 321 , I WILL SKIP OVER THE HISTORY BECAUSE I WAS COVERED, I WILL TOUCH ON THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA , SUBJECT SITE HAS A FUTURE LAND USE CODE OF AGRICULTURAL INTENSIVE AND RURAL SILVICULTURE, THE CHARACTER OF THIS AREA IS VERY IMPORTANT AND THE SURROUNDING AREA IS OVERWHELMINGLY RURAL WHICH I WILL SHOW SOME PHOTOS IN THE NEXT SLIDE AND THERE ARE POINTS FROM THE STAFF REPORT THAT TOUCHES ON THAT AS WELL. THIS IS THE SITE, AS YOU CAN SEE, EVERYTHING AROUND IT, TIMBERLANDS, TIMBERLANDS, FAMILY FARM, FAMILY FARM , BUT IT 
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AFFIRMS , PRODUCE FARM, WILSON FAMILY FARM, ALONG THE RIVER, THERE IS THE RURAL CHARACTER RESIDENTIAL AREA. EVERYTHING SURROUNDING IT IS FARMLAND. THIS PROJECT DOES NOT FIT THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING USES . THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP , LIKE WE SAID, IT IS AGRICULTURAL, INTENSIVE AND RURAL SILVICULTURE . WHEN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IS CONSIDERED, THEY SHALL INSERT COMPATIBILITY WITH THE ADJACENT SURROUNDING LAND USES . AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE MAP, EVERYTHING AROUND IT DOES NOT FIT IN THAT AREA. REAL QUICK, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A TALKING POINT, URBAN SPRAWL , INTRA-LAND USE CODE, IT SAYS THE AREAS DESIGNATED FOR RURAL SILVICULTURE AND AGRICULTURAL INTENSIVE ARE NOT TO BE CONSIDERED OF ELEMENTAL AREAS. AGAIN, INFILL DEVELOPMENT SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED IN OUR RURAL SILVICULTURE OR AGRICULTURAL INTENSIVE AREAS . 
          AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE SUBURBAN SPRAWL, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE STAFFING, FIRE DEPARTMENT, DISCONNECT -- REQUIRE THE EXTENSION OF OUR PUBLIC SERVICES TO THE AREA WHERE THERE IS NOT -- NOT IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER BECAUSE OF THIS LEAPFROG AND SPOT ZONING AREAS. TOUCHING ON THE FARMLANDS, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO PROTECT THAT , IT HAS BEEN HIT ON TREMENDOUSLY TODAY. THE COUNTY IS -- SHOULD CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE PROGRAMS TO CONSERVE AND PRESERVE THE AGRICULTURAL AREA FROM INTENSE URBAN AND SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS IN OUR LAND USE CODE. OBVIOUSLY , WE HAVE CONCERNS WITH TRAFFIC, THAT HAS BEEN TOUCHED ON PREVIOUSLY, ON 214 , WITH FARMING EQUIPMENT, I DO HAVE SOME QUICK VIDEOS, I TOOK THESE -- MY WIFE HELP ME MAKE THESE VIDEOS BEFORE THE PZA WHICH SHOWS , THIS IS 13 AND 214, THIS IS 214 RIGHT PAST THE SUBJECT PROPERTY , THIS IS EVERY SINGLE DAY, YESTERDAY ON MY WAY IN I PASSED MULTIPLE , AT LEAST ONE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND THEY HAD TO MOVE OUT OF THE WAY SO I COULD GET THROUGH, THIS IS EVERYDAY ON 214 IN THAT AREA. ADDING THESE PEAK HOUR TRIPS, 1900 TRIPS WILL BE A PROBLEM WITH THE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU . 
          >> GOOD MORNING, GLORIA NORTH, I AM HERE TO SPEAK FOR THE BIRDS. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS STATED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY, THERE WERE NO PERMANENT RESIDENTIAL SPECIES THAT WOULD BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED IF THIS FARMLAND WAS TAKEN. AS SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, FLORIDA IS A VERY IMPORTANT MIGRATORY PATHWAY. WE EXTEND INTO THE GULF OF AMERICA , WE ARE CLOSEST TO THE ISLAND , CLOSEST TO SOUTH AMERICA . IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. THOSE FARMLANDS, IN PARTICULAR , THE CORN , MANY OTHERS , SERVE AS A STOPPING PLACE FOR BIRDS AS THEY MIGRATE SOUTH. AND NORTH ON THE WAY BACK . I WOULD ASK THAT WE CONSIDER THE ANIMALS WHO CANNOT SPEAK , ONLY MAKE DECISIONS . I ASK THAT YOU VOTE NO ON THIS PROPOSAL . 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH . >> THANK YOU , MA'AM. 
          ] >> HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU HAVE? 
          >> TEN. LARRY PETERSON, 1701 COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH AND HAVE ON MY PROPERTY SINCE 1990, BORN IN ST. AUGUSTINE MANY MORE YEARS AGO THAN I CARE TO ADMIT , NOT A TRANSPLANT, I HAVE SEEN WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTY OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS. THE QUESTION IS EXPIRED AND WE SET THAT WAY BY THE COUNTY KNOWING CONDITIONS CHANGE OVER TIME. THIS IS NOT SIMPLY A RESET. PER A PZA BOARD MEMBER DURING A MEETING BECAUSE OF EXPIRATION, THEY STATED THAT IT THEREFORE ESSENTIALLY NEVER EXISTED. IT HAS TO START OVER. 
          THE PZA UNANIMOUSLY DENIED THE REQUEST FOR THIS PROJECT AND THE DEVELOPER STATES 90% OF EACH LOT IS TO BE HELD IN RESERVE . WHO IS GOING TO ENSURE THAT HAPPENS? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A HORSE TRAILER IS PARKED ON IT? WHEN A NEED TO SHED TO PUT THEIR RV AND ? THAT WILL NOT BE MANAGED WELL . DEVELOPING CODE COME OVER 500 CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY -- FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LIVED OUT THERE, NEEDED RESCUE, NOT A GREAT SITUATION. IT TOOK 9.5 
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MINUTES FOR RESCUE TO GET TO ME . IT IS PUTTING PEOPLE IN HARMS WAY. 
          INAUDIBLE ] THE SAME TRAFFIC THE ROAD. PATIENTS WILL SET IN . I WAS THE FIRST PERSON -- EXCUSE ME -- TO GET TO THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS LYING ON THE HOOD OF A CAR ON A MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT. THERE WERE ALWAYS ACCIDENT AT THAT LOCATION. ADDING ANOTHER 500 CARS PER DAY WILL BE INAUDIBLE ] . WHEN THE FIELDS ARE PLOWED AND ON WINDY DAYS, PLENTY OF COMPLAINTS YOU PROBABLY ALREADY DO, THE DUST AND DIRT LANDING ON THE CARS IN THEIR HOUSES THEY CANNOT OPEN THE WINDOWS WHEN THE CROPS ARE PLOWED UNDER , PRETTY GOOD AROMA AT TIMES. YOU CAN EXPECT TO GET EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS ABOUT THAT WHEN THESE PEOPLE MOVE OUT THERE. I SEE THE SMILES AND I KNOW THEY ARE COMING. THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD LEAD LEAPFROG DEVELOPMENT AND URBAN SPRAWL . APPROVED, YOU WILL HAVE A HARD TIME DELAYING FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS BETWEEN ] , THE RACE TO INFILL THAT AREA WILL BE ON AND YOU WILL NOT HAVE MUCH LEVERAGE ONCE YOU APPROVE THE FIRST ONE. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND URGE YOU TO DENY THIS REQUEST. HAVE A GREAT DAY . 
          >> THANK YOU . WE HAVE 10 MINUTES , GO. 
          >> GOOD MORNING , BRAD, 1781, IS MY PRESENTATION UP? OKAY. 1781 HICKORY LANE OFF OF COUNTY ROAD 13, THREE MILES SOUTH OF TOCOI ESTATES AND I AM AN AREA SPEAKER FOR RESIDENTS, I HAVE BEEN AN ACCOUNTANT, AUDITOR, CPA WE SOMETIMES ARE ACCUSED OF PLAYING FAST AND LOOSE WITH THE NUMBERS, REJECT THAT , HOWEVER, THIS PRD TAKES FAST AND LOOSE TO A NEW LEVEL. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TOCOI RIVER ESTATES PRD THROUGH REINSTATEMENT OF ORDINANCE 200645 WHICH APPROVED COUNTY ROAD 13 PRD WHICH HAS EXPIRED, THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT DEVELOPMENT SHALL COMMENCE WITHIN ONE YEAR OF APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE AS DEPLETED WITHIN THE APPLICATION, EVEN AFTER REPEATED AMENDMENTS, CONSTRUCTION NEVER COMMENCED. THE ORDINANCE EXPIRED AND THE PRD IS CALLED A MAJOR MODIFICATION BUT SIMPLY REHASHING OF THE PRD LANGUAGE WITH MINIMAL CHANGES AND IT SEEMS THE APPLICANT IS SAYING , IT PASSED IN 2006, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN DO IT AGAIN. BUT A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE 2006. I WOULD DISCUSS WHY THE ORDINANCE SHOULD NOT BE RESURRECTED . WHY THE PRD IS INCONSISTENT AND OUTDATED, AND IT PLAYS FAST AND LOOSE WITH THE NUMBERS AND THE SURROUNDING AREA IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PRD. THE PARTIES TO THE ORDINANCE WERE ST. JOHNS COUNTY, A CONTRACT, BETWEEN THEM ON THE COUNTY, THE ELEMENTS OF THE CONTRACT, INCLUDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTIES CONSIDERATION, PERFORMED, LEON COUNTY, LOGIC SUGGESTS THAT IT LOOKS AND SMELLS LIKE A CONTRACT, IT PROBABLY IS A CONTRACT. THIS APPLICANT WAS NOT A PARTY TO THAT CONTRACT, AND STILL SEEKS TO CHANGE IT. AND RESURRECTED FROM THE DEAD, THAT PZA VOTED DENSELY TO REJECT THIS, YOU SHOULD DO THE SAME. 
          2006 WAS A TIME OF EXTENSIVE OVERDEVELOPMENT , DEVELOPMENT STALLED IN THE YEARS FOLLOWING AND MANY JUST GETTING UNDERWAY THEN, WHEN IT'S A SLOW MODE, SOME COMMUNITIES WERE ABANDONED AND LOOK DESOLATE, I LIVED AT THE TIME, I SAW IT. SILVERLEAF WAS APPROVED IN 2006 BUT DID NOT EXPECT MAJOR GROWTH UNTIL 15 YEARS LATER. LOOK AT THE START OF MAJOR DEVELOPMENT FROM THAT TIME, IN ADDITION TO THE ONES MENTIONED, TWIN PEAKS WAS APPROVED IN 2005 WITH 3000 HOMES TO BE BUILT AFTER 2020, I LOOKED CAREFULLY, AFTER SILVERLEAF WAS APPROVED IN 2006 NOTHING ELSE APPROVED FOR 10 YEARS. UNTIL JUULING TO LAKES IN 2015, HALF 
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OF THE DEVELOPMENTS ON THE CHART HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS BECAUSE THE COUNTY WAS OVERDEVELOPED AND WE ARE APPROACHING THE SAME CONDITIONS NOT. WITH ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT SHOWN HERE, LOOKING AT 15 TO 20,000 HOMES ALREADY APPROVED BUT NOT YET BUILT. THIS MAP OUTLINES THE PREVIOUS TABLE IN GRAPHIC FORM, DEVELOPMENTS HAVE PRIMARILY BEEN NORTH OF THE COUNTY, THAT IS FOR GOOD REASON, THE SOUTH IS FARMLAND , WITH LITTLE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND IT NEEDS TO STAY THAT WAY. THE SOUTH OF THE COUNTY IS PRIMARILY A CULTURE, ACCORDING TO USDA, AGRICULTURAL HAS 170 MILE OF ANNUAL ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE COUNTY. THIS SUGGESTS REMOVAL OF THE FORMAT CONTAINED IN THE PRD CALCULATED -- DEVELOPMENT AREA 90% RESERVED. HOW CAN WE SAY THAT WITH A STRAIGHT FACE? YOU HAVE 205 LOTS. A MINIMUM OF AN ACRE EACH . SOME AS MUCH AS SIX OR EIGHT ACRES. YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 250 ACRES IN DEVELOPMENT. OR THE MATH DOESN'T WORK AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT CLOSE EXAMINATION AND YOU SEE MANY OF THEM CONTAIN SIGNIFICANT STORM RETENTION PONDS , THE PRD IS BASICALLY SAYING IS A BUILT LOT BUT UPON , YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, THE NUMBERS DO NOT WORK, THIS IS FROM THE PRD AND PROVIDES THE NARRATIVE, DEVELOPMENT IS -- THAT IS NONSENSE, THE LAWS THEMSELVES ARE A MINIMUM OF 250 ACRES OR MORE. THE ORIGINAL TABLE THAT WAS IN THIS PRESENTATION , THE PRD, SHOWED THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AREA WAS 664 ACRES . OR 64% OF THE TIME , THE TABLE SUPPORTED THE MAP DIVIDED , BOTH IN AND OUT. WHAT HAPPENED ? THE TABLE CHANGED. WHAT THE MAP REMAINS THE SAME. 
          IT IS LIKE WALKABLE . THIS IS A SLIDE PROVIDED IN THE MAP, I ADDED COLOR LINES FOR ILLUSTRATION . DOES THE BLUE AREA LOOK LIKE 10%? SERIOUSLY, HOW CAN THE TABLE AND THE MAP BE SO DIFFERENT IT MAKES NO SENSE. I CAN SEE THINGS WITH MY OWN EYES. THE PRD IS PURPORTED TO BE AN EQUESTRIAN COMMUNITY. HOW ? WHAT IF JUST HALF OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE A HORSE ? THAT IS OVER 100 HORSES . WHAT IF THEY HAVE TWO OR THREE HORSES BY THE APPLICANT CLEARLY HAS NO CONCEPT OF WHAT IS REQUIRED TO CARE FOR HORSES, NO CLARITY ON PASTOR SIZE, THE NUMBER OF NEEDED STALLS, OR THE RELATED BUILDINGS. WHY IS THERE NO PASTOR FEW PADDOCKS AND A BORN IN A REMOTE AREA WELL AWAY FROM ANY OTHER HOUSES. THERE IS NO SERIOUS THOUGHT TO PUTTING THIS PLAN TOGETHER . IT IS SIMPLY REHASHING OF WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE. WHO WILL CARE FOR THE HORSES? POTENTIALLY 100+ STALLS THAT WILL BE MOCKED EVERY DAY , WILL 100 RESIDENTS HEAD DOWN DAILY TO CLEAN UP THE BOARD ? WHERE WILL THE MANURE BE STORED AND HOW WILL THE RUNOFF BE KEPT FROM THE WETLANDS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO IT THE MAP SHOWS THE WETLANDS AND FORCE FIELDS ARE NEXT TO EACH OTHER, THESE ARE NOT WILD MUSTANGS FROM THE WILD WEST, THEY TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES, THESE ARE DOMESTICATED ANIMALS THAT PROVIDE CONSTANT CARE AND ATTENTION . THE APPLICANT SAYS IT IS OKAY, JUST TRUST US , THEY WILL BE FINE, THE SAME APPLICANT THAT SAYS 205 ACRES ] PLUS STREET AND AMENITIES ARE JUST 103 ACRES. PROPOSED SEPTIC SYSTEM IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF SLEIGHT-OF-HAND PRD STATES EVERY LOT MUST HAVE ITS OWN SEPTIC AND WELL, THE MAP SHOWS THAT HALF OF THE HOUSES , LOOK AT THE YELLOW DOWN THE MIDDLE, HALF OF THE HOUSES , WILL HAVE STORM RETENTION PONDS IN THE BACKYARD, THE COUNTY REQUIRES THAT SEPTIC AND DRAIN FIELDS BE 75 FEET FROM THE SURFACE WATER, 75 FEET FROM THE WELL, 100 FEET FROM WETLANDS, SOME OF THESE LOTS HAVE SUBSTANTIAL AREA OF ACREAGE IN THE POND AREA, AND THE SERVICE PART ADJACENT TO THE WETLANDS, THE WORST RUNOFF, HOW WILL THESE REQUIREMENTS BE MET? ARE WE TO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A SERIOUS ENDEAVOR? WITH THE PONDS IN THE BACK, WHERE WILL THE DRAIN FIELDS GO? I JUST OUTLINED THE SEPTIC REQUIREMENTS, WE WILL HAVE MT. FLUSHMORE IN THE FRONT OF EVERY SINGLE LOT. 
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STUDY BUT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE FACT THAT IT IS WORSE THAN NO STUDY AT ALL BECAUSE IT DOES NOT COUNT FROM THE NATURE OF THE TRAFFIC. IT SAYS THAT THERE MAY BE AS MUCH AS 2000 ADDITIONAL TRIPS PER DAY. FOLKS, WITH TRACTORS, THAT DOES NOT WORK. 
          THE PRC IS IN ZONE 4, FIRE STATION , THAT WILL TAKE ABOUT 13 MINUTES TO DRIVE . MUCH HAS BEEN MADE OF THE FIRE RATING, SPRINKLERS THAT IS NOT THE BIGGEST ISSUE, RESCUE AND EMTS ARE THE BIG ISSUE, SPRINKLERS DO NOTHING TO MITIGATE THE RISK. 
          STUDIES I FOUND HAVE SHOWN WORST WRITERS DO GET HURT -- HORSE RIDERS GET HURT AND 50% OF INJURED CHILDREN FROM HORSEBACK RIDING REQUIRE HOSPITALIZATION. JUST AS THIS PRD IS DEVOID OF REASONABLE CARE FOR CARING FOR OTHERS THE SAME WAY. THIS AREA IS A FARMING COMMUNITY AND HAS -- ADDING 2000 TRIPS WILL NOT HELP. FROM THE PRD , ALMOST 5 MILES TO THE EAST, CONSTANT FARMLAND , THERE ARE TRACTORS EVERYWHERE . LOOK AT THE YELLOW AREA TO THE SOUTH AND EAST. ALL OF THESE FEET INTO THE SAME AREA. THIS IS FARMLAND, THE CLOSEST PRD, THE CLOSEST DEVELOPMENT IS MILES AWAY, RANCH CLUB AND ASHTON OAKS IS A QUESTION ABOUT SEVEN MILES AWAY AND HAS -- IS NOTHING LIKE THE PRD , 27 LOTS OF 18 ACRES, EACH HOMEOWNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANY THEIR OWN HORSES ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY. IN SUMMARY, PRD IS TRYING TO USE OUTDATED, INCOMPLETE INFORMATION , IT PLAYS FAST AND LOOSE WITH THE INFORMATION. I URGE YOU TO LEAD, NOT BE LED , MAKE THE 
          RIGHT DECISION AND VOTE NO. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, SIR. 
          >> I AGREE. ED, BOX 3084, CANDIDATE FOR MOSQUITO CONTROL NEXT YEAR, THIS IS UNCONTROLLED GROWTH. THE IDEOLOGY OF A CANCER CELL IS UNCONTROLLED GROWTH, WE DO NOT NEED THIS AND IS A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY , IF WE WILL DESTROY OUR FARMLANDS, WE WILL BE RELIED UPON FARM PRODUCTION -- FOREIGN PRODUCTION , AND THEY DO NOT MONITOR FOR PESTICIDES OR OTHER RESIDUES . 
          THIS IS DANGEROUS . THIS LEAPFROG DEVELOPMENT IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USE . YOU JUST HEARD 14 WITNESSES , UNREBUTTED TESTIMONY , NOBODY HAS TESTIFIED IN FAVOR OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND I GET TO HEAR COHERENT TESTIMONY AS WHO ARE THE BENEFICIAL OWNERS OF THIS PROJECT? WHEN TRAVIS JAMES HUDSON WAS SELLING HIS FAMILY LAND, THEY HAD AN INTERNET ADVERTISEMENT , IT OFFERED , ON THE RIGHT-HAND CORNER, TO PROVIDE TRANSLATION TO A FOREIGN LANGUAGE , IF YOU CLICKED ON IT YOU GOT THE TRANSLATION. CHINESE. WHO OWNS THIS LAND ? WHO HAS FINANCIAL BENEFIT? A LOT OF FOREIGN INVESTMENT IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, WHO ARE THEY? WHO ARE THE FRONT PEOPLE? WHO ARE THEY GOING TO BENEFIT ? WHO BENEFITS FROM THE PROJECT ? I AGREE, IT IS AN EXPIRED PRD. THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BROUGHT THIS. IT WAS A TEN-YEAR PROJECT WHERE THEY DID NOT DO ANYTHING. IT IS OFFENSIVE. IT IS CORRUPT. I KNOW YOU WILL DENY THIS, BECAUSE YOU LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE. THE COUNTY COMMISSION DID NOT ALWAYS DO THAT. THE SEPTIC TEXT ALONE, THE HORSE POOP, THE MALARKEY YOU HAVE HEARD FROM THE DEVELOPER, THEY DO NOT HAVE A SINGLE EXPERT WITNESS TO TESTIFY . THEY DID NOT BRING A SINGLE EXPERT WITNESS. THEY HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT, NOT WORTHY OF THE NAME. DID NOT EVEN GET SWORN IN. THE DEVELOPER PRESENTED NO SWORN TESTIMONY AT ALL. IT IS NOT WORTHY OF BELIEF. YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO. THIS LOOKS LIKE A DENIAL TO ME . IT LOOKS LIKE A DENIAL TO EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM. THIS IS A CHURCH COMMUNITY. PART OF THE FABRIC OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY , THE AGRICULTURE COMMUNITY IN THE TOCOI AREA . AS JOHNNY COCHRAN WOULD SAY, IF IT DOES NOT FIT, YOU MUST ACQUIT, DEFEAT THIS PROPOSAL, IT IS A DECENT THEY EVEN BROUGHT IT IN HERE. THANK YOU FOR VOTING NO. 
          >> DO YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES? >> I THINK SO. GOOD MORNING, 
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ALMOST AFTERNOON, DIANE WILSON , 1297 COUNTY ROAD 13, SORRY FOR THE DISRUPTION , I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD AND STAFF FOR THE ATTENTION AND THE TIME. THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO GENEROUSLY DONATED THEIR TIME SO I AND OTHERS COULD SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF. I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS PROJECT SINCE THE PRE-APPLICATION STAGE LAST YEAR. 
          APPARENT THIS PROPOSAL DID NOT ALIGN WITH THE INTENT AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN , OR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE , ESPECIALLY REGARDING COMPATIBILITY AND PROTECTION OF AGRICULTURAL AND SILVICULTURE LANDS . OVER THE MONTHS , MAPS HAVE BEEN CHANGED, THE PLAN HAS BEEN ADJUSTED, THEY TRIED TO CHIP AWAY AT THE PUBLIC CONCERNS BUT THOSE CHANGES HAVE ADDRESSED NOT THE CORE PROBLEM. IT DID NOT FIT THE LAND , DID NOT THE CODE, IT DOES NOT FIT THE COMMUNITY THEN AND IT STILL DOES NOT NOW. TOCOI RIVER ESTATES IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND THE RURAL USES. EXPIRED IS EXPIRED I WILL NOT DWELL ON IT. YOUR OWN COUNTY ATTORNEY SAYS THE LAW IS VERY CLEAR THAT MAJOR MODIFICATION IS TREATED AS NEW ZONING AND THE APPLICATION -- APPLICANT BEARS THE BURDEN OF PROJECT MUST COMPLY WITH THOSE CURRENT STANDARDS, NOT FROM 2006 . IT SIMPLY DOES NOT. UNDER TODAY'S STANDARDS, TOCOI RIVER ESTATES FAILS TO -- FAILS THE TEST OF COMPATIBILITY IS ISOLATED, PROMOTING LEAPFROG AND THE VERY PATTERN THAT THE PLAN WAS WRITTEN TO DISCOURAGE. IN SHORT, AN AERIAL MAP THAT I GOT OFF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY WEBSITE . FROM I-95 , STILL VAST RURAL LANDS FOR WORKING FANS -- WORKING FARMS , ACROSS MILES OF 214 . WITHIN FIVE MILES ALONG INAUDIBLE ] I WILL DISPUTE SOME OF THE NUMBERS, 200 HOMES, EVEN SOME OF THE SIDE ROADS THAT LEAD THEIR THE 14 MILE LOOP THAT WOULD BE 260 HOMES THAT ARE WITHIN A MILE RADIUS THAT AFFECTS THIS PRD. TOCOI RIVER ESTATES , WOULD ALMOST DOUBLE THOSE NUMBERS, WITH INSIDE OF 103 ACRES , ACCORDING TO THE MDP, CREATING A DENSE POCKET OF SUBURBAN HOUSING IN THE MIDDLE, AGRICULTURAL LANDS. THE NEAREST SIMILAR PROJECT IS FOUR MILES AWAY. FROM HOMES , ON SOMETHING LIKE 276 ACRES . IT GOES TO SHOW THAT THERE IS NO NEED FOR EQUESTRIAN HOMESITES IN THIS AREA. BEYOND THOSE ARE TRAIL MARKERS, HASTINGS , YOU HAVE TO TRIAL MILES AND MILES. IT IS CLEARLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE PATTERN AND OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS ANOTHER AREA MAP THAT DOES SHOW THE BLUE OUTLINE IS THE PRD, YOU CAN SEE THE FARM IS SHADED GRAY, YOU SEE DEVELOPMENT AREAS IN ST. AUGUSTINE. THIS IS MY FAVORITE SLIDE. THE LEAPFROG. I NEED NOT SAY MORE . I THINK I MISSED SOMETHING . COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES , I CANNOT TELL IF I AM ON THE RIGHT ONE. NEW RESIDENTS OF ELEMENTS SHALL BE CLUSTERED, CONTINUOUS TO EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AREAS AND, AS DEVELOPED IN A MANNER THAT IS COMPACT AND CONTINUOUS -- INAUDIBLE ] AND IT SHOULD -- 
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DEVELOPMENT PATTERN TO THE BALANCE OF LAND USES THEM AS -- ADJACENT TO AGRICULTURAL AREAS, AREAS DESIGNATED FOR -- PERMITTING FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN RURAL SILVICULTURE AND AGRICULTURAL ZONES EXPEDITES THE END OF ACT WOULD ALSO DOUBLE AS AGRICULTURE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THESE TWO URBAN SPRAWL, IT WOULD OPEN A PANDORA'S BOX AND LEAD TO A DOMINO EFFECT. YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE COUNTY ROAD C NICK HIGHWAY, AND HIS CORRELATION TO THE SCENIC HIGHWAY. THE SCENIC CHARACTER , BY ADDING THE RIGHT WAYS TO THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT BE IN KEEPING, PRESERVATION , STRICT BUFFERS , SETBACKS ENFORCED ESPECIALLY ON COUNTY ROAD 13 AND ST. JOHN'S ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, ST. JOHNS RIVER AQUIFER RECHARGE, RUNOFF, FLOODING , PUBLIC SAFETY, PEDESTRIAN RISK, TRAFFIC HAZARDS ARE ANOTHER CONSIDERATION. REASONS FOR INCOMPATIBILITY, THE PRD SHALL MAINTAIN AND PRESERVE RURAL CHARACTER AND USES. 
          INAUDIBLE ] SHALL BE INCLUDED FOR RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS ARE PLACED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO EACH OTHER. AREAS -- RESERVE AREAS SHALL BE THE FOCUS OF THE PRD , TWO DISTRICTS , DEVELOPMENT AREA , WHICH SHALL BE THE PORTION OF PARCELS -- INAUDIBLE ] I AM SORRY , RESERVE AREAS, DESIGNATED AS PERMANENT OPEN SPACES AND  AG USES.CONTINUATION OF DEVELOPMENT THERE SHALL BE CLUSTERED AND TRANSITION AWAY FROM THE BOUNDARIES OF THE RESERVE AREA. 
          SHOWING YOU WHAT , IF THEY WERE TO DO AT 9010, ACCORDING TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN , HOW IT SHOULD BE CLUSTERED. THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT SHOWS DEVELOPED ON 103 ACRES . AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY HAVEN'T SPREAD OUT OVER 50% , 60% OF THE ACREAGE. IT IS NOT PROPERLY CLUSTERED. THE RESERVE AREA WITH HIM LOTS , TO REACH THEIR ONE TO SIX ACRE PARCELS, DEFEATING THE INTENT OF CLUSTERING AND OPEN SPACES. THIS IS IMPORTANT. STILL A LOT OF THINGS IN QUESTION. BRAD HIT ON THEM , THE RESERVE AREA MAP, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT PERMIT COUNTY BUFFERS AND BACKYARDS ] ON PAGE SEVEN OF THE MDP, CROSSWALK ACROSS HUNDRED 13 NOT SHOWN ON THE MAP BUT NOT SHOWN ON THE CITY BUFFER, A PORTION OF THE PROJECT , TO THE WEST WILL BE ALLOWED TO DEVELOP. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONFLICTS , THE NUMBERS DO NOT WORK . THIS SETS A PRECEDENT FOR UNFAIRNESS, BURDENS THE TAXPAYERS AND MAX -- AND MAKES EXPIRATIONS MEANINGLESS . THIS IS PRETTY REPETITIVE ALSO, I AM SORRY, I AM RUNNING OUT OF TIME. REASONS TO DENY IN THE STAFF REPORT, I WILL NOT READ IT BUT THE RURAL CHARACTER, INFRASTRUCTURE, AND OUR ENVIRONMENT AND THE INTEGRITY OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DEPEND ON YOUR DECISION . JUST TO BE CLEAR, PLEASE DENY THIS MAJOR MODIFICATION . THANK YOU FROM THE REDSHIRTS, FRIENDS , FAMILIES, NEIGHBORS , CONCERNED CITIZENS OF RURAL COUNTY ROAD 13. 
          >> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? COME ON UP. 
          >> GOOD MORNING . I THINK IT IS THE MORNING. I LIVE AT 13860 COUNTY ROAD 13 NORTH. I AM 82 YEARS OLD AND I HAVE LIVED AT THIS ADDRESS WITH MY HUSBAND FOR 26 YEARS. WE ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA. WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE SOMEONE MADE A POOR DECISION. THEY PURCHASED AGRICULTURAL LAND FOR THE 
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PURPOSE OF DEVELOPMENT. THEY BOUGHT THE WRONG TRACK AT THE WRONG PLACE AND THE WRONG TIME. THE APPLICANT CAN KEEP REAPPLYING, THE ISSUES ARE NOT GOING AWAY, AND ABOUT ABILITIES ARE NOT GOING AWAY, WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY. MANY REDSHIRTS HERE TODAY. AND IN PAST MEETINGS, THE COMMUNITY HAS COME OUT TO COME OUT AND DENY THIS. ANY DEVELOPMENT IS LEAPFROG AS YOU HAVE SEEN ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT MAPS TODAY. INCOMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING LAND USE . IT FAILS TO CONSERVE AND PROTECT THE AGRICULTURE INTENSIVE -- INTENSIVE AND THE SILVICULTURE LANDS . INDIRECTLY PROMOTES URBAN SPRAWL. YOU PROBABLY KNOW THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN , SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED BUT THE MAIN ONE I WANT TO BE MENTIONING BECAUSE I'M RUNNING SHORT OF TIME, POLICY A 16 , CONFERENCE OF PLAN , IF YOU FOLLOW IT , REQUIRES YOU TO NOT ALLOW THIS GROWTH IN THIS AREA. BECAUSE IT REQUIRES YOU TO CONSERVE AND PROTECT OUR AGRICULTURE AND OUR SILVICULTURE . IT RAISES A SIMPLE QUESTION. WHY DO WE EVEN HAVE ZONING CODES IF WE CHANGE THEM ON THE WHIM OF A DEVELOPER? FOR HOUSING WE DO NOT NEED IN A LOCATION THAT WAS NEVER INTENDED FOR SUBURBAN SPRAWL. IT IS INTENDED FOR FARMING . HOPEFULLY , TO FEED US. THE ZONING LAWS EXIST TO PREVENT LEAPFROG DEVELOPMENT. PROTECT OUR FARMLAND, AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. TO MANAGE RESPONSIBLE GROWTH . IF WE KEEP BENDING THE RULES FOR THOSE WHO PURCHASE THE WRONG LAND , WE WILL LOSE THE VERY PROTECTIONS THAT THE AUTHORITY -- THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS DESIGNED TO GUARANTEE . 
          >> THANK YOU . >> YOU, THE BOARD , HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND THE ABILITY TO DENY THIS. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> PLEASE, STAND WITH US. PLEASE 
          DENY THIS PRD. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> INSTEAD OF THANK YOU, TELL US OUR TIME IS UP, I AM NOT HERE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT, I AM HERE SOMETHING I FACE A LOT AS A DEVELOPER AND I HAVE BEEN A DEVELOPER OF FIVE PRD'S IN THIS COUNTY, HIGHLY RESPECTED THEY CAN BE DONE IN A MANNER THAT EVERYONE IS HAPPY WITH, SO MANY. ON THAT NOTE , MY BIGGER QUESTION IS, WHAT IS A LANDOWNER SUPPOSED TO DO WHEN THEY HAVE EXPIRED ZONING? THEY HAVE NO ZONING. THEY CAN DO NOTHING ON THE PROPERTY. THE COUNTY HAS TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING, IF YOU EXPIRE, YOU REVERT BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE, BUT THIS LANDOWNER AND MANY OTHERS, I SEE SO MANY COME BEFORE YOU, WHERE ZONING HAS EXPIRED, THEY HAVE NO ZONING. NO ZONING ALLOWS NOTHING. THAT IS A PROBLEM. THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT. I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE A PRIOR REQUEST . I HAVE A TON OF ARGUMENTS, I WILL SPIRIT BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A LONG DAY FOR A LOT OF THE THINGS PEOPLE TALK ABOUT, FIRE SUPPRESSION, WHAT THE PUBLIC DOES NOT REALIZE, ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS VERY STRINGENT REGULATIONS IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY AND RESPONSE TO THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMENTS THAT GET MADE BY THE PUBLIC ON THESE ITEMS. I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST ONCE AGAIN, IF THE COUNTY CAN START HOLDING SOME EDUCATIONAL WORKSHOPS TO TALK ABOUT THE RULES THEY HAVE IN PLACE, FIRE SUPPRESSION, IF YOU DEVELOP A PIECE OF PARCEL INTO MORE THAN TWO LOTS, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION, THOSE ARE THINGS THE GENERAL PUBLIC DOES NOT KNOW, I WOULD REQUEST, I THINK WE CAN CUT DOWN THE TIME OF TALK FROM THE PUBLIC BY PROBABLY 80% IF WE WOULD JUST 
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EDUCATE THE OVERALL PUBLIC ON JUST HOW STRICT ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS WITH THE RULES AND HOW MUCH YOU DO TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU . ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          READY FOR A REBUTTAL? MR. BURNETT ? THANKS. 
          >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. I WANT TO START BY COMMENTING THAT WE HAD NO OBJECTION, ABOUT DESIGNATED SPEAKER OR NOT , WE ARE FINE WITH WHATEVER DESIGNATED SPEAKER , WE THINK IT IS A WONDERFUL THING OUR CONSTITUTION , OUR FLORIDA CONSTITUTION AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA TAKES IT SERIOUSLY WITH PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE DISAGREEMENT IN VIEWS BUT IT IS THE RESPECT THAT IS DIVERGING VIEWS SHALL BE GIVEN ] . WHAT YOU ARE STANDING UP TO REPRESENT TODAY . LET ME COMMENT ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS. I THINK HIGH LEVEL , LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT, YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE A PROJECT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED , THAT ORIGINATED 20 YEARS AGO. ON THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY , THAT LARGELY IS IDENTICAL TO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY. IT IS AN INTERESTING DYNAMIC BECAUSE, DURING ALL OF THAT TIME, WE DO NOT HAVE COME IN THIS PROJECT, A THING THAT SO OFTEN PROJECTS THAT COME BEFORE YOU HAVE CHALLENGES. WE DO NOT HAVE A DRAINAGE CHALLENGE. WE DO NOT HAVE A TRAFFIC CHALLENGE. WE DO NOT HAVE A CHALLENGE RELATED TO SO MANY OF THE CRITERIA YORK COUNTY STAFF LOOK AT. BY THE WAY, WE KNOW THIS PROJECT WAS WELL VETTED BY YOUR STAFF, ALL OF THE APPLICATION MATERIALS THAT CAME IN RELATED , THOSE APPLICATION TIERS RELATED TO THIS APPLICATION. CONTRARY TO ONE OF THE SPEAKERS, AS FAR AS NUMBERS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, WE DO NOT CONTROL THE NUMBERS AS THE DEVELOPER, A LOT OF THE NUMBERS AND CRITERIA HAVE BEEN SET BY THE STAFF, WE KNOW WHICH LINKS ARE DEFICIENT AND WHICH ONES AREN'T BASED ON THE CRITERIA AND WE MEASURE THOSE THINGS BASED ON FDOT STANDARDS THE COUNTY ADOPTS AND YOU HAVE THE TRIP SPREADSHEET CONSTANTLY UPDATED BY STAFF . THERE IS NO WAIVERS IN THIS APPLICATION. 
          CONTINUING TO MEET EVERY REQUIREMENT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP, I WILL TELL YOU DIRECTLY, IN OUR PRD TEXT, G1 SAYS SECTION , COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, MIKE ROBERSON, HE IS FAR MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE THAN I AM, HE CAME UP AND ARTICULATED IT, THAT POLICY 8.1.6.2 SUB B, TALKING ABOUT 500 PRD UNITS PER CALENDAR YEAR. WE ARE NOWHERE NEAR TRIPLING OR HITTING THAT LIMITATION IN A CALENDAR YEAR. 
          IT IS INTERESTING, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PROJECT, AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT MY CLIENT MAY HAVE ANTICIPATED AND THOUGHT THEY WERE BUYING. WHAT ELSE WOULD SOMEONE THINK THEY WERE BUYING OTHER THAN PROPERTY THAT HAS A PRD ON IT WHICH EXPIRED? THAT MEANS A PRD WITH 205 UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY IN SOME CONFIGURATION AS SINGLE-FAMILY WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND HAS BEEN APPROPRIATE FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS. THIS IS PROPERTY THAT EVERYONE KNOWS IS AN APPROVED PRD . WE ARE NOT ONE OF THOSE COUNTIES OR CITIES WHERE THE ZONING REVERTS BACK TO WHAT USED TO BE. THAT IS NOT WHO ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS . YOU ARE STUCK WITH IT. SO, WHAT CAN YOU MAKE -- WHAT USE DO YOU MAKE OF THIS PROPERTY? WE MADE ALL BE HERE IF THE OWNER , PREVIOUS OWNER , HAD BEEN EXTENDING THE TIME OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT EXTENSIONS. BECAUSE THOSE STATES OF EMERGENCY DROPPED THE TIMES , THAT MAY HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THIS PROBLEM BUT THE OWNER DID NOT DO THAT AND WE KNOW THE PROPERTY IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE AND CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA. WHY IT IS VERY RARE YOU EXPRESS THIS IN 
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THIS ROOM I DO NOT KNOW I'VE EVER HEARD IT. I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT BEFORE UNTIL HE CAME TO REVIEW THIS PRD AND ANALYZING THIS PRD. IT IS TO PU LIKE THE ONE BEFORE YOU TODAY IN THESE AREAS. YOU KNOW WHAT IS NOT -- YOU KNOW THE FUTURE MAP DOES NOT DEPICT IT DOES NOT DEPICT ANY -- ANY AG INTENSIVE LAND WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY. WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR MAP AND THE GIS MAP MARK AND I'M LOOKING FOR THE RED LINE AND I HAVE IT PULLED UP HERE MY COMPUTER AND I LOOK AT THE RED LINE AND I LOOK FOR WHERE IS THE DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY THAT INCLUDES A PIECE OF LAND THAT IS RS OR A.I. I CANNOT FIND IT. IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ON THE FUTURE LANE USE MAP WITH THE RED LINE AROUND IT SAYING THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT , BUT WE HAVE AN ENTIRE SECTION DEVOTED TO PRDS , IT'S VERY CLEAR IT SIMPLY DOES NOT APPLY BECAUSE YOU CANNOT RECONCILE. YOU CANNOT RECONCILE THOSE TWO CONCEPTS. SO WE KNOW THAT PRDS ARE APPROPRIATE IN AG INTENSIVE LAND BECAUSE WE HAVE A WHOLE SECTION DEVOTED TO HOW YOU GO ABOUT THAT METHODOLOGY AND THAT PROCESS. AND PERHAPS IN 2015 WHEN THAT CLARIFICATION WAS MADE, CONCERNING 70% OF THE RESERVE AREA BEING HELD TRULY FOR RESERVE WITH ONE LANDOWNER , HOA, OR OTHER LANDOWNER, TO BE USED FOR ACT PURPOSES OR RS PURPOSES, THAT'S WHERE WE THEN FORCED THE LOT INTO A SMALLER DEFINED AREA TO WHERE WE KEEP THAT AGRICULTURAL CONSISTENCY . THAT IS WHERE THAT CAME FROM PERHAPS. MAKES LOGICAL SENSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT 2015 AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE ADJUSTED . BUT OTHERWISE, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A PROPERTY OWNER WITH PROPERTY RIGHTS THAT IS COMPLYING WITH EVERY REQUIREMENT NOT JUST IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE BUT THE SPECIAL SECTION THAT IS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RELATED TO PRDS. THEY MEET EVERYTHING. AGAIN , IT IS AN APPROVED PROJECT. AND IT MAY NOT BE THIS COMMISSION , BUT A COUNTY COMMISSION IN 2006 FOUND THIS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THIS AREA AND HAS BEEN THERE ON THE BOOKS EVER SINCE AND TECHNICALLY RIGHT NOW IT STILL IS A PRD FOR 205 UNITS. IT MAY BE EXPIRED , BUT IT IS ZONED AS LAND FOR 205 UNITS, AND WE ARE HERE TO SIMPLY TRY TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE SAME ZONE FOR LAND AT 205 UNITS. SO, WITH THAT, I WILL STOP TALKING. I WILL, AGAIN, EMPHASIZE I DON'T BELIEVE WHEN YOU READ THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT YOU FIND ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN PRDS ARE DIRECTED TOWARD THESE AREAS AND THEY ARE ALL OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARY. THE CONCEPTS OF LEAPFROG AND URBAN SPRAWL SIMPLY DO NOT APPLY. A PRD IS BY ITS NATURE VERY LOW DENSITY. VERY LOW DENSITY FOR THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE MAP . AND THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT. 90% OF THE OVERALL PROJECT HELD IN RESERVE AND OF THE 90% THAT IS HELD IN RESERVE, 70% IS HELD BY WHATEVER TO CONTINUE ON THAT KIND OF USE. WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. I THINK IT IS AN UNUSUAL SITUATION AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER COME ACROSS OR THOUGHT ABOUT THE FACT THAT A PRD A DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY AND THIS WHOLE SECTION OF THE 
          CODE SO IT CLEARLY DOES APPLY. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. 
          >> THANK YOU, MR. BURNETT AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE COMING OUT TODAY. MY FIRST QUESTION WILL BE TO THE APPLICANT . THIS 
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IS ONE OF THE MANY PROJECTS THAT IS COME BEFORE US DURING MY TERM THAT SEEM TO IMPACT ACTIVE AG PRODUCTION LANDS, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY I ASKED FOR FULL SUPPORT TO STAND UP AND AGRICULTURAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME OUT HERE AND TO THE THREE MINUTE BECAUSE I DO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS REGARDING SOME OF THE NUMBERS PRESENTED. THIS IS JUST BASIC MISTAKES IN ALGEBRA THAT I COULD FIND NOT TO MENTION NOT BEING THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT, I HOPED THAT THE AG COMMITTEE WOULD BE STIR THAT BEFORE US ON THIS PROJECT AGAIN. IS THERE REASON WHY IT'S COMING BEFORE US NOW MANY LATER ON IN THE AGENDA AS I BELIEVE THE SECOND READING IS BEFORE US. 
          >> I'M NOT SURE. MAYBE THIS WAS PRESET. I'M NOT SURE. WE DID NOT CONTROL THE TIMING. THAT ISSUE WE JUST RAISED OUT THAT MY 
          CLIENT IS AWARE DAY >> I SPOKE TO HIM IN MY OFFICE AND ASKED THAT QUESTION. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE ANSWER. 
          >> I COMMUNICATED WITH STAFF ABOUT THE TIMING AND ADVERTISING. IT NEVER CAME UP AND IT WAS NEVER RAISED TO ME. I 
          CAN TELL YOU THAT. >> OKAY. I RAISED IT. 
          >> MY APOLOGIES. BUT AGAIN, BASED ON THE INFORMATION I WAS PRESENTED WITH, AND I THINK WE ALL RECEIVED , THE SITE THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND ST. JAMES COUNTY RECLAIM WATER STANDARDS MANUAL SAINT JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. AT SOME POINT THERE'S A APPLICANTS MANUAL FOR THE SAINT JOHN'S RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. I DON'T SEE CITATIONS FOR ANY OF THIS. I SPENT HOURS AND I KNOW THAT OTHER MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY HAVE SPENT HOURS LOOKING FOR THE EXACT CITATIONS OF WHERE THESE FACTS AND FIGURES ARE COMING FROM. BEYOND THAT IT'S A PRE-2014 DOCUMENT. I'VE A LOT OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THE FACTS AND FIGURES BEING PRESENTED. 
          >> AND SPECIFICALLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER USE? 
          >> ABSOLUTELY. EVERYTHING THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US, I BELIEVE IT'S ON ONE OF THE PAPERS YOU SENT OUT THE TOTAL RESIDENTIAL USE ANNUAL USE 58÷365 IN YOUR MATH IS SIMPLY WRONG. I JUST REALLY QUESTION WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TODAY. 
          >> AND THAT CONNECTION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PRD TEXT? 
          >> I'M TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WAS DROPPED OFF TO THE COMMISSION. ONE OF THE MANY -- I JUST CAN'T FIND CITATIONS. I KNOW YOU WERE SAYING YOU GOT THEM FROM THESE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS, BUT I'VE SEARCHED THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PAGES. AND I CANNOT FIND THE FACTS AND FIGURES YOU ARE 
          STATING HERE. >> 
          >> AS TO THE SPECIFICS OF THE NUMBER SOME OF THESE CAME FROM THE PROJECT ENGINEER , WHO IS NOT HERE TODAY, SO I AM UNABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION TO YOU. 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> IF IT'S RELATED TO THE PRD TEXT AND WE HAVE AN ERROR IN THE PRD TEXT, THAT IS SOMETHING WE 
          CAN EASILY CORRECT. >> IT'S NOT JUST THE MATHEMATICS. THERE'S THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO ADEQUATE CITATION FOR ALL OF THESE COPPERHEADS OF DOCUMENTS YOU ARE USING IS BACK UP. USING AS BACKUP. GIVE ME A PAGE NUMBER. 
          >> HI. THIS IS MOHAMMED HERE. 
          ARE LOOKING AT -- >> CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE 
          MICROPHONE. >> SURE. THE NUMBER YOU ARE LOOKING AT THERE ARE ONLY TWO NUMBERS THAT IS BASICALLY GALLONS USED BY SINGLE FAMILY HOME . THAT NUMBER YOU WILL FIND IN THE ST. JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT USER MANUAL. AND THE SECOND ONE , WHICH MATTERS IS THE AMOUNT OF WATER USED FOR AGRICULTURE, AND FOR THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE -- THE TOTAL FOR THE FIVE MONTHS AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THOSE TWO CROPS THE 
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NUMBERS ARE LISTED OF HOW MUCH IT IS USED FOR THE CROAKS THE GROWTH CYCLE 
          YOU HAVE TO PUT IT TOGETHER. >> THE SOURCE IS THE WATER 
          MANAGEMENT DISTRICT NUMBERS. >> I'M TELLING YOU THE NUMBERS ARE WRONG. THE NUMBERS YOU PRESENTED TO US WERE WRONG. BUT 
          I CAN GO BACK . >> IT'S THE ONE ON THE ANNUAL 
          USE IT STARTS WITH -- EQUALS. >> I'M NOT SURE -- WOULD YOU CARE TO REPEAT THE NUMBERS. 58,937.5X365 . THAT WAS THE ANNUAL USE. ARE YOU TO TELL ME IT'S 21,-- 
          >> THAT IS WHAT THE NUMBER IS. >> THAT'S NOT THE NUMBER I GOT. 
          >> 
          >> 
          >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM. 
          >> EXCUSE ME? I'M CONCERNED THAT THE NUMBERS ARE NOT ACCURATE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF CITATION AND BACKUP DOCUMENTATION. IT'S JUST TOO VAGUE. 
          >> IF IT'S FAKE 
          >> HOW DOES FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES 21 MILLION NUMBER DIFFERENT FROM THE DIFFERENCE IN THE PRESENTATION? 
          >> I'M STATING THERE ARE ERRORS IN THE INFORMATION THAT BEEN GIVEN TO US AND I ALSO FIND THERE TO BE A LACK OF CITATION 
          AND BACKUP DOCUMENTS. >> THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. 
          THIS IS ME -- TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES , WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY -- THE WATER USE FROM THE CURRENT USES . JUST TO SHOW THAT -- THE DIFFERENCE IS 80% TO 20%. EVEN IF SOMEONE IS WRONG, HOW MANY TIMES IT IS. IF IT'S 80 MILLION GALLONS OR 60 MILLION GALLONS, IT'S LESS THAN WHAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY USED. THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS DOCUMENTATION NOT TO LITIGATE 
          HOW MANY GALLONS PER PERSON . >> MY CONCERN IS I DON'T ACTUALLY TRUST THE DOCUMENT PRESENTED TO US. 
          >> I'M REALLY TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM CONSIDERATION. 
          >> SORRY, WHAT? >> THIS DOCUMENT IS ONE OF PERSUASIVE -- TO BE PERSUASIVE RELATED TO THE CHANGE FROM THE AMOUNT OF LAND BEING USED BECAUSE YOU THINK OF IT OF TERMS WE AS HUMANS THINK OF AS THE FERTILIZER THAT WOULD GOING 2 YARDS AND LANDSCAPING AND THE LIKE VERSUS AG USE. WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS OWN CRITERIA IS RELATED TO MUCH LESS USE OF WATER RELATED TO SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING VERSUS AGRICULTURE. IT IS PERSUASIVE ONLY OFFERED FOR THAT PURPOSE BUT IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. YOUR COAT DOESN'T REQUIRE ADOPTION WATER USES AS PART OF ANY APPROVAL FOR ANY ZONING. 
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          >> THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. BURNETT. HAVE YOU DEVELOPED ANYTHING IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY OR IS THIS YOUR FIRST TIME? 
          >> I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          >> YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION? 
          >> A MEMBER OF THE TEAM 
          >> I APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT. BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD HERE TODAY , I FIND IT TO BE INCOMPATIBLE AND AMONG MANY OTHER CONCERNS THAT I HAVE. THANK YOU. 
          >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I HAVE A STATEMENT. I'M HAPPY TO DEFER TO COMMISSIONER MURPHY. 
          >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO ACCEPT THAT? 
          >> I WAS THINKING FOR TO TALK ABOUT WATER HOW MUCH OF THAT WATER USE ACTUALLY COMES FROM RAIN BECAUSE ON A FARM YOU WOULD CALCULATE WATER THAT COMES FROM THE CLOUDS BUT IN HOUSE YOU HAVE TO PULL IT OUT OF THE GROUND OR WELL. I THINK THE WATER QUESTION IS A MOOT POINT BECAUSE MAJORITY OF WATER USED ON A FARM COMES FROM THE SKY IT DOESN'T GET PULLED OUT OF THE GROUND. 
          THAT'S MY ONLY STATEMENT. >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THERE ARE A LOT OF FEATURES ABOUT THIS PROJECT IN FRONT OF US TODAY THAT WOULD BE A DREAM COME TRUE OR IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY . IT IS LOW DENSITY, IT DOES HAVE SOME REALLY NICE FEATURES. AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE WELCOMED. 
          IN MANY PARTS OF THE COUNTY WHEN I LOOK AT THIS PROJECT WHERE IT IS PROPOSED I SEE IT AS A TEXTBOOK DEFINITION OF 
          >> ZONING.  AND FOR THAT REASON I WILL NOT BE VOTING IN FAVOR. I WILL VOTE TO DENY THIS PROJECT. I ALSO HAVE A QUICK STATEMENT JUST ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS I HEARD AND PUBLIC COMMENT. NOT ABOUT THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE PEOPLE GET THEIR INFORMATION . IT COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF RESOURCES IN THE AREA WHERE THEY GET THEIR INFORMATION. I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO CONVINCE FOLKS WHO LIVE HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS APPROVES EVERYTHING IN ALL WE DO IS WE DON'T LISTEN, WE DON'T HEAR THE CONCERNS. YOU DESERVE TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT YOUR BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS LISTENING TO AND ACTING UPON YOUR CONCERN. I FEEL LIKE IT'S RELEVANT IF SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT I HEARD JUST TO KNOW THAN THE FIVE YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THIS BOARD HAS DENIED EVERY SINGLE PROJECT WEST OF I-95 THAT WOULD ENCROACH ON FARMLAND AND SOUTH OF 208 INCLUDING SOME VERY BIG RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS , VERY BIG COMMERCIAL PROJECTS , AND THAT DATES BACK -- YOU CAN GIVE CREDIT TO THE COMMISSIONERS SITTING UP HERE BUT YOU SHOULD ALSO KNOW THAT JED SMITH WAS A PART OF THOSE DENIALS. JEREMIAH BLOCKER. PAUL WAS PART OF THOSE DENIALS. AND HENRY WERE PART OF THOSE DENIALS. WE'VE DENIED EVERYTHING THAT WOULD'VE ENCROACH ON FARMLAND. IF YOU'RE CONCERNED THAT YOU GOVERNMENT IS NOT LISTENING TO AND ACTING UPON YOUR CONCERNS, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU DO NOT BE TROUBLED. WE ARE HEARING YOU AND VOTING ACCORDINGLY. AND WE ARE DOING SO BASED ON SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AS THE LAW REQUIRES US TO DO. I WANTED YOU GUYS WHO CAME OUT DID A FANTASTIC JOB MAKING PUBLIC COMMENT GOT I WANT YOU TO KNOW YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT FALLING ON DEAF EARS. YOUR COUNTY GOVERNMENT HAS HURT YOU DURING 
          THE PAST FIVE YEARS. >> 
          >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT TODAY AND THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT HERE THAT DID SEND US EMAILS. WE DEFINITELY DO HEAR YOU AND I LOVE EVERYONE WEARING RED AND SHOWING COMMUNITY. I APPRECIATE THOSE THAT PRESENTED. I KNOW THE PICTURES ARE WORTH 1000 WORDS AND VIDEO WAS VERY TELLING. ANYWAY , I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I DEFINITELY HEAR YOU ALL. WE HEAR EVERYBODY LOUD AND 
          CLEAR. >> COMMISSIONER MURPHY. 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING -- I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. IT'S BEEN COMING BACK AND FORTH FOR A COUPLE YEARS. AND I'VE DONE A LOT OF STUDY ON THIS. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES I HAVE PERSONALLY IS, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF PUT OUT SEVEN FINDINGS OF FACT AS TO WHY THIS IS NOT EVEN COMPATIBLE OR WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN , THE FLORIDA LAND USE MAP -- THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THERE ARE SO MANY REASONS LEAPFROGGING 
          >> ZONING , YOU KNOW, AND AS I LOOKED AT THIS PROJECT , I WAS 
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IMPRESSED WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE GONE IN TO TRY TO MAKE THIS FIT. THEY BENT OVER BACKWARDS. 
          THEY'VE REALLY DONE A LOT OF THINGS TO DO THIS, BUT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES I HAVE WITH THIS, AND I WILL PIGGYBACK ON COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. THIS IS A WONDERFUL PROJECT. BUT I THINK IN THIS AREA IT'S ABOUT 15 TO 20 YEARS TOO EARLY. I DON'T THINK ANYTHING LIKE THIS IS GOING TO WORK ANYTIME SOON AND FOR THE REASONS STATED NOT ONLY THE FINDINGS OF FACT BUT I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. 
          >> THE ONLY COMMENT I AGREE WITH EVERY COMMENT THAT WAS MADE HERE. IS THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHY YOU CANNOT DO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TILL 2045 BECAUSE THIS WAS DECIDED IN 2006 AND LOOK WHERE WE ARE? I THINK THAT'S THE TOUGH PART OF PLANNING THE FUTURE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WITH THAT DO 
          I HAVE A MOTION? >> MOTION TO DENY 2. PUBLIC HEARING * MAJMOD 2025-07 TOCOI RIVER ESTATES PRD. REQUEST FOR A 
          MAJOR >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT IS DENIED 5-0. 
          >> 
          [3.	Public Hearing * Second Reading - Amendment to Impact Fee Ordinance. This is the second and final public hearing to implement an updated Impact Fee Schedule and changes to the County Impact Fee Ordinance. The proposed ordinance is based upon an Impact Fee Update Study prepared by consultant, Benesch, originally presented to the Board of County Commissioners on January 21, 2025. Subsequent meetings included discussions that led to board direction on changes.]
          >> ALL RIGHT. WE ARE BACK FROM LUNCH. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3. THE SECOND READING OF THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE. 
          >> GOOD MORNING. DIRECTOR OF GROWTH AND MANAGEMENT. HAPPY TO BE BEFORE YOU TODAY ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. THIS IS, AS YOU MENTIONED, MADAM CHAIR, THE SECOND READING TO THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE. ONLY A FEW SLIDES TODAY , AND I WILL REALLY JUST HIGHLIGHT THE GUIDANCE -- THE LAST GUIDANCE WE GOT THE LAST MEETING. AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT THE FOUR PHASES . I BRIEFED YOU ALL, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC TO EASE THE TRANSITION INTO ANY INCREASES YOU GO THROUGH IN FOUR YEARS IN OUR CASE BECAUSE OF THE INCREASES THAT WERE UP TO 50% IN THE FLORIDA STATUTE MAXIMUM. TWO THINGS WE RECEIVED GUIDANCE ON IN THE LAST MEETING WAS CONSERVATION AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IMPACT WAIVER. IN THE CONSERVATION AND OPEN SPACE IMPACT FEE YOU TOLD US , HEY, WE'D LIKE TO GO AT HALF OF THE GREAT THAT THE CONSULTANT PROVIDED US, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM THAT CAN BE DEFENDED. 
          AND GO TO HALF THAT RATE FOR NOW TO START OFF WITH AND WE WILL ANALYZE IT AS WE GO FORWARD. AGAIN, THIS IS HALF THE RATE. SO DOING WHAT YOU INDICATED. THE SECOND ONE IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE ALSO GOT DIRECTIN ON THAT. WE HAD BEEN GIVEN PREVIOUS DIRECTION AND A HALF OFF WAIVER FOR ANYTHING THAT WAS UNDER 80% IN THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME. WE CAN KEEP THAT BUT ALSO ANYTHING UNDER 50% OR BELOW WOULD BE A FULL WAFER. SO THAT WAS THE GUIDANCE COMING IN BEFORE THIS. AND WE HAVE A 30 YEAR -- IN LINE WITH THE STATUTES WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I WILL GO BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION ON THE CONSERVATION IMPACT FEE. I THINK THERE WERE STILL SOME QUESTIONS AS TO WHAT THAT IS FOR. YOU HAVE A PARKS AND REC IMPACT FEE AND THAT CAN BE FOR PARKS AND RECREATION AND ANYTHING RELATED TO THAT ON A PARK. THE CONSERVATION AND OPEN SPACE IMPACT FEE IS MORE FOR LAND THAT IS MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY CAN BE DEVELOPED OTHER THAN IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF PUBLIC FACILITY ON IT. AND BY THAT IT COULD BE A DIRT PARKING LOT WITH A TRAIL SO THE PUBLIC WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO A. TO MAKING THAT DISTINCTION IT'S PROBABLY KIND OF THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PIECE , UNLESS PARKS AND RECREATION IMPACT FEE DO OTHER THINGS ON IT. BUT KIND OF IN LINE AND THAT WAS PART OF IT AND BEHIND THIS WAS TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL MONIES. WITH THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION ON THE COMPENSATION FEE THE CON THE CONSERVATION FEE. AND THAT WOULD BE THE FINAL AND WE WOULD 
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IMPLEMENT ACCORDINGLY. AND THE FIRST PHASE WOULD GO OUT ON ROUGHLY FEBRUARY. SO THE FIRST FEE SCHEDULE WOULD BE APPLICABLE 
          AT THAT POINT IN TIME. >> COMMISSIONER MURPHY. 
          >> THANK YOU. WE ALREADY HAVE A PARKS AND REC COMPONENT OF OUR IMPACT FEES. CAN YOU HELP GUIDE ME AS TO WHAT THIS NEW CONSERVATION IMPACT FEE COULD BE USED FOR? CAN WE USE THIS SUPPLEMENT OR IS THIS A SEPARATE, OR COULD WE USE THE LAND BOARD TO MONITOR -- HANDLE THESE BEES FOR US? 
          >> STAFF WILL HANDLE THE FEES ALONG WITH BUDGET AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FEES GO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO AND WITH THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. YES, IT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE OF BENEFIT TO LAMP AND THEY CAN USE THAT MONEY. NOTING THAT SOME FACILITY WOULD HAVE TO BE ON THE PARCEL. I WILL GIVE YOU THE EXAMPLE OF THE BIG PIECE OF LAND THAT IS COMPLETELY WET AND THE COUNTY WANTS TO PRESERVE IT , BUT YOU COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ON IT. SO MAYBE THERE'S A CONCERN THERE OF USING THOSE FEES FOR THAT. 
          HOWEVER, MAYBE THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE NOT ALWAYS LIKE THAT. MANY OF THEM HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF USABLE AREA WE CAN PUT TRAILS OR SOME SORT OF PUBLIC USE. YES, A LOT OF THIS MONEY POTENTIALLY COULD BE USED WITH LAMP. 
          >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THAT WAS ALONG THE SAME LINES AS MY QUESTION. A 100 ACRE PARCEL, HOW MUCH OF THAT, WHAT'S THE THRESHOLD. HOW MUCH OF THAT HAS TO BE USABLE FOR RECREATION? IN ORDER FOR THE JUSTIFICATION? 
          >> I DON'T THINK THERE IS A STANDARD THAT WE CAN TALK TO OF THAT UNLESS THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY CAN CHIME IN. I THINK IT'S A JUDGMENT CALL ON WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING IS A 
          FACILITY. >> SO THE LANDS HAVE TO BE ACTIVATED. THERE'S NO THRESHOLD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WITH REGARD TO 50% OR 75% BUT THERE HAS TO BE A USE A CONSERVATION OPEN SPACE HAS TO BE TO THIS WILL TAKE NEW GROWTH AND THE NEED FOR THOSE LANDS. SO THEY HAVE TO BE ACTIVATED BECAUSE THE IMPACT FEE STATUTE REQUIRES INFRASTRUCTURE PUBLIC FACILITIES. SO IN ORDER TO MEET THAT STATUTORY REQUIREMENT THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME TYPE OF FACILITY WHETHER IT'S PARKING OR TRAILS OR WHATEVER. PROBABLY MORE GEARED TO MORE PASSIVE RECREATION, WHICH IS THE LAMP AND LOOKS IT THAT WHEN THEY 
          ASSESS PROPERTIES. >> JUST MAKE SURE I FULLY UNDERSTAND. I HAVE A 100 ACRE PARCEL AND 90 OF THOSE ACRES ARE WET. THERE ARE ONLY 10 UPLAND THAT CAN BE USE -- IT WILL ALL BE PERMEABLE BUT AS A TRAIL. WOULD THAT QUALIFY TO BE 
          PURCHASED BY THIS? >> I THINK YES. 
          >> PERFECT. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT THINKING OF THIS PRIOR TO TODAY. I KNOW WE JUST HAD A BRIEFING YESTERDAY AND HOW MUCH YOU LOVE BEING SURPRISED ON THE DAY THE MEETING. BUT THIS IS BASED ON THE CONVERSATION I HAD PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. SHAME ON ME FOR NOT HAVING THOUGHT OF THIS MYSELF. CAN WE PHASE THE CONSERVATION IMPACT FEE UP TO 100% OVER FIVE YEARS IF WE WANT ENACTED TODAY AT 50% AND THEN GROW THAT BY 10% PER YEAR UP TO THE FULL 100% FIVE YEARS LATER , I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT. 
          AGAIN, CREDIT TO CHUCK. I APPRECIATE -- I HAD NOT THOUGHT OF IT. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE INITIAL IMPACT OF THIS IMPACT FEE UP FRONT, WHICH IS ALL UP FRONT, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I'M IN FAVOR OF. PLEASE HELP ME. 
          >> I THINK YOU CAN PHASE IN FEES OVER TIME. I THINK WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE FIRST READING, WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE. IT WASN'T CONTEMPLATED DOING IT THIS WAY SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT AS LONG AS WE HAVE CLEAR BENCHMARKS. THERE USED TO BE A PROCESS OF INDEXING. WE DON'T INDEX ANYMORE AND WANT TO ESTABLISH YOUR FEES YOUR KIND OF SET. I WOULD NEED TO DO RESEARCH ON THE PHASING. IN MY BE PERMISSIBLE, BUT I NEED TO LOOK AT THE CHANGE IN LANGUAGE FROM INDEXING THAT WE CAN NO LONGER DO. BUT, AGAIN, AT ANY TIME YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR FEES EVERY FIVE YEARS. THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU'RE DOING IT YEARLY YOU'RE NOT HITTING THAT FIVE NEAR BENCHMARK. THE QUESTION BECOMES IS IT IF THE ESTABLISHED TODAY AND THEN THROUGHOUT OR IS IT A FEE ESTABLISHED FOR 5 YEARS FROM NOW. WE WOULD NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THE. 
          >> FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, AND APOLOGIES, I BEG THE FORGIVENESS OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. I HAD NOT THOUGHT OF IT UNTIL CHUCK MENTIONED IT TO ME THIS MORNING. I WOULD SUPPORT A PHASING IN GIVING US UP TO 100% IMPACT FEE. I'VE ALWAYS WANTED MORE MONEY FOR CONSERVATION . MY BIGGEST CONCERN WAS THE 
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END-USER. WE DID ALL THESE FEES AND ELIMINATED THE BUYBACK ALL AT ONCE NOT HOW IT IMPACTED THE DEVELOPER BUT HOW IT IMPACTS THE RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS FOR ME WERE POWERFUL. I THINK IT'S WORTH GOING BACK TO FIRST 
          READING IS MY POINT. >> I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. I THINK 
          IT'S GREAT IDEA. >> I SAW THE FLOOR. I STILL HAVE 
          THE FLOOR. >> IF IT'S A BUYBACK AT 100% I THINK IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT AND I THINK COMMISSIONER TAYLOR WAS NEXT AND THEN COMMISSIONER MURPHY. 
          >> THANK YOU. MY QUESTION WAS ALSO AROUND IT'S FIVE YEARS WILL BE A WHILE TO GET TO THAT. I MEAN, WE ALREADY SAID OVER 10 YEARS WE WILL BE LUCKY IF WE GET 1 MILLION OR 1 MILLION AND HALF BECAUSE DEVELOPMENT HAS SLOWED DOWN A LOT. AND WITH LAMP ONLY BEING $500,000 , I WOULD BE OKAY WITH PHASING THAT IN BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE SUPPORT IN INCREASING THE AMOUNT WE ARE GIVING TO LAMP BECAUSE YOU CANNOT BUY ANYTHING WITH $500,000. I DON'T LOVE THE PHASING IN IDEA, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING. ONLY BECAUSE IT'S JUST GOING TO DRIVE OUT THAT MUCH LONGER BEFORE WE HAVE FUNDS TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. THAT IS A LONG TIME TO WAIT. I WOULD LOVE SUPPORT IN INCREASING THAT $500,000. IT SO MINIMAL. LAND IS SO EXPENSIVE IN THIS COUNTY. THERE'S REALLY NOTHING YOU CAN 
          BUY FOR THAT. >> COMMISSIONER MURPHY. 
          >> I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. OF WE ARE LOOKING AT IT BEING ABLE TO SUPPLEMENT THAT WITH WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY, WHICH WOULD COVER WHAT WAS CUT WE ONLY INCREASE OVER TIME. I THINK IT'S A GREAT COMPROMISE. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS CAN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE OTHER IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE AND KIND OF CUT THIS OFF AND SEPARATE THIS SO WE DON'T HOLD UP THE REST OF THE ORDINANCES? OR WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THAT? I MEAN -- I SAY LET'S GO FORWARD WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND WE CAN CUT OFF THIS UNTIL -- AND MAKE THIS THE FIRST READING OF JUST THAT PART OF THE ORDINANCE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. >> WELL, I'M SORRY. DO YOU STILL HAVE THE FOUR? HOW ABOUT , YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS IS THE SECOND READING BUT HOW ABOUT IF WE FUND L.A.M.P. 1.5 BILLION. WE HAVE $20 MILLION IN RESERVE AND HAVEN'T HAD HURRICANE. JESSE, HOW MUCH INTEREST HAVE WE MADE FOUR-YEAR WE WILL MAKE $1 MILLION INTEREST, RIGHT? WE DID NOT HAVE HURRICANE. THIS IS A REWARD POSSIBLY THAT WE FUND L.A.M.P. FOR 1.5 AND WE COME BACK AND GO UP TO 100% IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. COMMISSIONER 
          WHITEHURST. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WOULD SUPPORT INCREASING THE FUNDING FOR L.A.M.P.. THIS LAST SEPTEMBER WE HAD THE BUDGET HEARINGS AND THE DECISION WAS MADE NOT TO FUND L.A.M.P. TO $2 MILLION. THAT WAS A POLICY DECISION. I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE -- RAISE THE FUNDING FOR L.A.M.P. UNTIL THE NEXT BUDGET HEARING UNLESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DRAWING DOWN FROM RESERVES , YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE RISKY TO DRAW DOWN ON RESERVES. I -- I WOULD WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS BEFORE WE DO THAT. 
          >> THE 20 MILLION FOR RESERVES WAS FOR HURRICANES. SECOND OF ALL, THE REASON WHY WE DID NOT FIND AND DIDN'T CUT FUNDING FOR L.A.M.P. IS, AS WE WERE TRYING TO GIVE A BREAK TO THE HOMEOWNER AND REDUCE TAXES, WHICH WE DID, AND NOW THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A HURRICANE, IT MAKES SENSE. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. 
          >> I AGREE. AND I'VE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR WE HAVE RECEIVED EVEN MORE EMAILS REGARDING L.A.M.P. AND THE CONSERVATION IMPACT FEE 
          AND IT'S WHAT RESIDENTS WANT. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JUST SOME CLARIFICATION. THAT $20 MILLION IN RESERVES IS NOT DESIGNATED FOR EMERGENCY 
          RESPONSE? >> YES , THE INTENT OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE RESERVE IS TO RESPOND 
          TO EMERGENCIES. >> I'M NOT SURE -- THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT QUALIFIES AS AN EMERGENCY. I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO LOOK AT USING SOME OF THOSE RESERVES, THANK GOODNESS WE DIDN'T HAVE HURRICANE BUT THE POSSIBLY STOCKS AND FOOD PANTRIES RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE PEOPLE AS OF THIS WEEK THAT IT CAN BE HUNGRY. THAT IS A MUCH MORE PRESSING 
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EMERGENCY AND A MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE USE FOR SOME OF THOSE FUNDS RATHER THAN L.A.M.P. FOR 1.5. I THINK IT'S A 
          BUDGETARY DECISION NEXT YEAR. >> I THINK WE CAN DO BOTH. 
          200,000 I THINK YOU TO BRING UP THAT YOU NEED FOOD PANTRY STOCKING. JESSE, WHAT'S THE INTEREST RATE OVER HERE FOR $20 MILLION , AND IT WOULD BE GONE IF WE HAD HURRICANE. 
          >> SHORE. IT'S ABOUT -- WE HAVE A PRETTY CONCERTD INTEREST RATE. WE USE SBA AND IT'S PROBABLY 2.5%. SO THAT $20 MILLION IT'S ABOUT A HALF MILLION DOLLARS . 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST CAUTION THE BOARD TO OPEN THE PRESIDENT OF USING THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE FUND. WHEN I RECOMMENDED THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR AND THEN ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET THAT WAS UNDERSTANDING THOSE FUNDS ARE SET ASIDE FOR NATURAL DISASTERS, HURRICANES , AND OTHER DISASTERS THAT WE HAVE TO RESPOND. HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T BRING BACK SOME FUNDING SOLUTION THAT IS OUTSIDE OF OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE FUNDS. 
          WE HAVE NOW REACHED OUR GOAL OF ESTABLISHING A HEALTHY RESPONSE RESERVE YET. SO I AM WEARY ABOUT TAPPING INTO THOSE FUNDS AND OPENING THE PRECEDENT FOR USING THOSE FUNDS FOR OTHER PURPOSES IN THE FUTURE. WE CAN BRING BACK FUNDING SOLUTIONS FOR YOU FOR 
          THE SAME AMOUNT. >> IS THERE A LEGAL TERM FOR THE RESERVE? IT IS EMERGENCY ONLY? OR IS IT JUST RESERVE? WE CAN 
          USE ALL THESE DIFFERENT WORDS -- >> YOU SAID WHAT THOSE WORDS 
          MEAN. >> I DON'T KNOW. 
          >> SO WE HAVE NEVER BEFORE THIS YEAR ANY EMERGENCY RESPONSE RESERVE. WHEN I IN JULY RECOMMENDED A BUDGET, MY RECOMMENDATION WAS TO SET ASIDE $20 MILLION THIS YEAR AND CONTINUE TO ADD ONTO IT TO RESPOND TO EMERGENCIES THAT INCLUDES HURRICANES, NATURAL DISASTERS , AND SOMETIMES HUMAN DISASTERS. MAN-MADE DISASTERS. IS THE BOARD'S DECISION AND YOU ADOPTED THE BUDGET ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION. BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY INTERPRET WHAT EMERGENCY ENTAILS AS A BOARD AND 
          WE WILL TAKE THAT DIRECTION. >> I GUESS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A HURRICANE, IT'S KIND OF A SUB COST AND IT'S KIND OF AN EMERGENCY WHEN WE GET ALL OF OUR TREES DIE AND ANIMALS. BUT I'M JUST SAYING, IT WAS AN IDEA. COMMISSIONER MURPHY. 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. SO YOU MENTIONED THE FACT THAT THERE MAY BE OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES TO SHORE UP L.A.M.P.. I AM NOT SUPERSTITIOUS, BUT WHEN YOU SAY WE DIDN'T HAVE A HURRICANE HERE , ONE FORMS IN THE ATLANTIC. AND LET'S ALL KNOCK ON WOOD. I WOULD SUPPORT A CONSENSUS TO DIRECT STAFF TO FIND OTHER WAYS TO SHORE UP L.A.M.P. THAT DON'T INVOLVE THE EMERGENCY FUND IF POSSIBLE. IF NOT, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE AMENABLE TO IN SIX MONTHS OR SO SAY THAT IF WE CAN'T FIND A WAY TO FUND IT THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT IN SIX MONTHS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE USING IT FOR THE INTENDED PURPOSES. 
          CONSENSUS TO DIRECT STAFF? THIS WILL BE CONSENSUS TO DIRECT STAFF AT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES TO SHORE UP L.A.M.P. BACK TO $2 MILLION. BUT I GUESS WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON THAT. NOW IT'S BACK TO THE IMPACT FEE AND PUBLIC COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. 
          PUBLIC COMMENT. >> DO WE NEED PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE READING? PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          >> A LOT OF THINGS TO RESPOND TO. I'M REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR COMMISSIONER MURPHY PROPOSED FINDING FUNDING TO GET US UP TO $2 MILLION ON L.A.M.P.. THAT IS GREAT NEWS. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, YOUR PROPOSAL I'M HAPPY HE WANTS AS AN IDEA OF A CONCRETE PLAN FOR INCREASING THE IMPACT FEE THAT STARTS AT THE 50% LEVEL BECAUSE UP UNTIL NOW IT WAS JUST KIND OF WE WILL INCREASE IT SOMEDAY AND NOW HE HAS A CONCRETE PLAN. IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO BE A HERO, HE CAN MAKE IT THREE YEARS INSTEAD OF FIVE YEARS. I'M JUST GOING TO SUGGEST FIVE YEARS IS A REALLY LONG TIME. AND THE PRICE OF LAND IS NOT GETTING ANY LOWER. I'M ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER THAT. OTHERWISE I THINK THE IDEA OF STARTING OUT AT 50% , I CAN'T SPEAK FOR MY FELLOW 
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RESIDENTS. THIS IS JUST MY GUT FEELING. STARTING AT 50% SEEMS OKAY IF WE COULD JUST WORK OUR WAY UP A LITTLE BIT SOONER THAN 
          FIVE YEARS. THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC 
          COMMENT? GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. 
          AUSTIN NICHOLAS. REPRESENTING THE NORTHEAST BUILDERS ASSOCIATION. WE HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSED CREATION OF AN ENTIRELY NEW OPEN SPACE AND CONSERVATION IMPACT FEE. WE BELIEVE THE CREATION OF THIS FEE IS A VIOLATION OF SENATE BILL 180, WHICH PROHIBITS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST OF 2027. ADDING AN ENTIRELY NEW IMPACT FEE WOULD DEFINITELY BE MORE BURDENSOME THAN THE CURRENT IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE IN OUR OPINION. WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED THIS PROPOSED CONSERVATION IMPACT FEE ONLY TARGETS NEW HOUSING FOR THE COST OF CONSERVATION LAND SO IT WOULD BE BY ALL RESIDENTS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. A BETTER ACQUISITION WOULD BE WHEN WHAT CLAY COUNTY DID WITH HER CONSERVATION TAX ADOPTED THEY DID -- WAS SUBJECT TO APPROVAL TO DEMONSTRATE -- AND CAN BE USED BY THE COUNTY IN ADDITION TO USING THOSE FUNDS % THEY CAN ALSO USE BONDS FOR THE CONSERVATION OR FOR THE ACQUISITION OF CONSERVATION LANDS. AND ALTHOUGH MANY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE ADOPTED IMPACT FEES FOR PARKS AND RECREATION WHICH ST. JOHNS COUNTY REALLY ALREADY HAS. VERY FEW ADOPTED FEES FOR ACQUIRING -- THE CITY OF MARATHON IS THE ONLY LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN FLORIDA THAT HAS ADOPTED SUCH A FEE. SUCH AN IMPACT FEES UNTESTED IN FLORIDA COURTS. CONSERVATION AND OPEN SPACE IMPACT FEE PROPOSED IN THIS ORDINANCE USES A COUNTYWIDE SERVICE AREA FOR THE COLLECTION AND EXPENDITURE FEE REVENUES COUNTYWIDE SERVICE AREAS UPPER BOWL TO CHALLENGE UNDER IMPACT FEE CASE LAW. WE ALSO HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE DIFFERENT POPULATION COUNTS USING THE IMPACT FEE STUDY VERSUS THOSE USED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STUDY A FEW MONTHS AGO. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS PAPER , MAY 6TH, 2025 WE HAD A COMMISSION HEARING FOR THE YEAR BASED COPY OF THE PLAN AMENDMENTS AND THE POPULATION PROJECTION WAS AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 145,000 NEW RESIDENTS BY 2050. HOWEVER WE TURN AROUND AND HAVE THE IMPACT FEES STUDY TO JUSTIFY INCREASING THESE IMPACT FEES DRAMATICALLY AND THAT POPULATION FOR THAT STUDY ONLY SHOWS AN INCREASE BY 200,000 RESIDENTS. THAT'S OVER 55,000 PERSON DIFFERENCE IN JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS. AND IT SEEMS WE JUST HAVE CONCERNS THAT YOU CAN USE A BIGGER NUMBER TO JUSTIFY HIGHER FEES YOU SHOULD ALSO USE THAT FIGURE NUMBER TO JUSTIFY YOUR LAND PLAN. IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT. AND I WILL RAP UP BY SAYING A VERY COMMON CONCERN WE HEAR IS NEW GROWTH DOESN'T PAY FOR ITSELF. WE DECIDED TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH THE IMPACT FEES SINCE THEY WERE CREATED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. FROM 1988 TO 2025 THEY'VE COLLECTED A TOTAL $442 MILLION IN IMPACT FEES FROM NEAR GROVE. 
          IF YOU FACTOR IN INFLATION IT INCREASES BY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          >> THANK YOU SIR. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          I DIDN'T HEAR ANY ECONOMIC EVIDENCE AND HEARING LEGAL CITATIONS. ART SLOGANS , WHICH IS ALL WE EVER GET FROM THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION. SHOULD TOTALLY DISCOUNTED. YOU HAVE A CONSENSUS AND YOU ARE ALL RIGHT ON THIS ONE AND I SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I LOVE THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE AND LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE LISTENING TO EACH OTHER. AND WHEN YOU GET THESE COMMENTS FROM THE PEANUT GALLERY -- IS HE A REGISTERED LOBBYIST EVEN? I KNOW WE HAVE A COUNTY EMPLOYEE WHO IS IDENTIFIED RECENTLY IN A FACEBOOK POST AS BEING THE CHIEF LOBBYIST FOR THE COUNTY AND HE WASN'T EVEN REGISTERED LOBBYIST. SO WHO IS THIS GUY AND WHAT IS HE KNOW? I DON'T THINK HE SUPPORTS HIS ARGUMENTS WITH FACTS OR LAW OR ECONOMICS, AND THAT POINTS TO THE FACT THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY NEEDS AN ECONOMIST AND NEEDS THE CHIEF SCIENTIST SO WE STOP IGNORING THE FACTS AND IGNORING THE PEOPLE AND IGNORING THE EMPIRICAL REALITY IN THIS WORLD WHERE WE NEED IMPACT FEES. ST. JOHNS COUNTY IMPACT FEE WAS OF HEALTH ALL THE WAY TO THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT. 
          UNANIMOUSLY, AS I RECALL. MY COLLEGE ROOMMATES GRANDFATHER GOT THE FIRST IMPACT FEE ADOPTED ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN A SUBURBAN SANITARY DISTRICT. IS A REASONABLE IDEA. 
          MAKE THE DEVELOPERS PAY FOR THE COST OF GROWTH. AND THAT WAS A 
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SIMPLE $50 FEE ON NEW SEWAGE HOOKUPS. AND THE ILLINOIS VILLAGE COUNCIL SUIT ALL THE WAY TO THE OH, MY SUPREME COURT AND THEY LOST TOO. ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS A REALLY GOOD RECORD ON THESE IMPACT FEES. WE JUST NEED TO JOIN THE LAWSUIT OVER SB 180 AND I THINK WE ARE DONE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURTESY TO YOUR CITIZENS INTO EACH OTHER, AND PLEASE PASS THE MOTION IS MADE. I THINK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE CONTRIBUTIONS THEY ARE MAKING TO THIS VERY ITERATIVE PROCESS. ARE LISTENING TO EACH OTHER AND THAT'S WHAT DEMOCRACY IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT. DEMOCRACY IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT COMPROMISE. I YIELD THE BOUNCE MY TIME. THANK YOU. 
          >> YES, MA'AM. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS VICKI PEPPER. 
          UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY BY IDENTIFYING INAUDIBLE ] AND LICKING THEM WITH COMMUNITY NEEDS. I WAS TRAVELING FOR MUCH OF OCTOBER BUT I'M GLAD TO BE BACK IN ST. 
          JOHNS COUNTY FOR A FEW WEEKS. I THINK THE READING RAISED AN INTERESTING IDEA FOR OF THE OCC SPONSORED FOOD DRIVE TO HELP ADDRESS GROWING FOOD INSECURITY IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, SEE ARE LIKELY TO BE HEARING MORE FROM US ABOUT THAT IDEA. AT THE OCTOBER 7TH MEETING OUR COLLEAGUES DWIGHT AND KENNY APPLAUDED YOU FOR AGREEING TO THE 50% IMPACT FEE WAIVER FOR HOUSING AVAILABLE AT 80% AMI OR BELOW, BUT WENT ON TO EXPLAIN WHY IT WOULD BE EVEN BE MORE EFFECTIVE TOOL IF WE HAD A TOTAL WAIVER FOR 50% OR BELOW AND YOUR MEETING ON OCTOBER 21ST OUR COLLEAGUE REITERATED AND FURTHER EXPLAINED WHY THAT OPTION REALLY WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL AS A TOOL IN OUR TOOLKIT. TO REALLY TRY TO INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPERS TO DRIVE DOWN AT LEAST AND GET SOME OF THE PRICES BELOW THE 80% AMI LEVEL. WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE AT YOUR LAST MEETING ON THE FIRST REDING YOU LISTENED TO ARE CONCERNED, CONSIDERED A RECOMMENDED CHANGE AND ULTIMATELY AGREED TO ADOPT A TOTAL WAIVER OF IMPACT FEES FOR HOUSING AFFORDABLE AT 80% OF AMI OR BELOW. IT'S GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND CHALLENGING AS IT MAY BE TO PROVIDE HOUSING ATTAINABLE TO RESIDENTS AT LOWER INCOME LEVELS, EVEN IF THE NUMBERS ARE MODEST, IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THANK YOU. WE ARE ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF ADDING IMPACT FEES FOR CONSERVATION AND OPEN SPACE LAND. WE ONLY ASK THAT YOU PLEASE ENSURE THAT SUCH CONSERVATION AND OPEN SPACE LANDS ARE EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED SO THEY ARE ACCESSIBLE AND CAN BE ENJOYED BY ALL RESIDENTS INCLUDING THOSE IN HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY, AND WE URGE YOU AGAIN -- I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE STAND NOW , BUT I WAS AT LEAST PLANNING TO URGE YOU TO TAKE THE FINAL STEP TO ADOPT THE REVISED ORDINANCE TODAY. ON THE OTHER HAND, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO 
          RAISING FEES EITHER. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON. JUDY SPIEGEL. I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF BUTTONING UP THE IMPACT FEE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT IS AN ACTIONABLE MEASURABLE THING THAT YOU CAN DO THAT CAN HELP AND LIKE VICKI JUST SAID IT'S EVEN SMALL NUMBERS IT WILL HELP. WE REALLY NEED TO START PUSHING THAT THRUST IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SPLIT THE BILL 
          >> THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMITMENT AND YOUR INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FUND LAND CONSERVATION IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE IDEAS THAT UP AND BROUGHT UP TODAY. I'M HERE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO ADOPT THE MAXIMUM FEE SCHEDULE FOR THE CONSERVATION IMPACT FEE TO GENERATE ABOUT $3 MILLION ANNUALLY IN REVENUE. I HAVE SOME NUBERS HERE THAT KIND OF SHOW THE MAGNITUDE OF THE NEED FOR LAND CONSERVATION FUNDING IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIST OF PRIORITY PROPERTIES THAT THIS COMMISSION APPROVED FOR LAND , THOSE PROPERTY TOTALS ABOUT $35 MILLION IN COSTS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FUNDING THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE L.A.M.P. BUDGET IT'S LIKE 
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$3.5 MILLION. WE HAVE FUNDING TO ACQUIRE 10% OF THE PROPERTIES ON THE PRIORITY PROPERTY LIST AT THIS COMMISSION ADOPTED. THE MAGNITUDE OF THE NEED IS EXTREMELY GREAT , AND I'M SURE THAT YOU HEARD THE FEEDBACK DURING THE WORKSHOPS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. IN TERMS OF PHASING IN THE CONSERVATION IMPACT FEE I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA. I WOULD CAUTION AGAINST JUST ADOPTING THE 50% RATE RIGHT NOW AND TRYING TO CIRCLE BACK TO THE FUTURE. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATIONS THAT MISS WEST REFERENCE. LEGISLATURE HAS PASSED LAWS THAT LIMIT THE RATE AND FREQUENCY AT WHICH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN INCREASE IMPACT FEES. IT'S NOT EASY TO INCREASE WHEREAS IF THIS BOARD DECIDED TO ADOPT THE FULL AMOUNT AND PHASE IT IN THAT WOULD MOST LIKELY ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM. IN THE TIME THAT I HAVE REMAINING I WILL HOP OVER TO THE OVERHEAD. I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE A REALLY CONCRETE EXAMPLE OF WHY THIS FUNDING IS SO IMPORTANT. THIS VIDEO HERE IS VIDEO OF A PROPERTY I HOPE YOU RECOGNIZE IN THE FOREGROUND THIS IS THE NUMBER 1 PRIORITY PROPERTY ON THE LAMP LIST. IT'S 195 ACRES AND A MILE OF WATERFRONT AND IT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE NORTH OF MOSES CREEK CONSERVATION AREA. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO BUY THIS AND OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY HAS A PREDEVELOPMENT APPLICATION AND TO GET THE PROCESS ROLLING TO DEVELOP IT AND YOU CAN SEE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY IN THE BACKGROUND BEING DEVELOPED CURRENTLY. IT'S VERY FORESHADOWIN AND SHOWS WHAT CAN HAPPEN TO THIS PROPERTY IF WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO BUY IT. 
          THERE ARE VERY FEW PARCELS LEFT IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO HAVE A HABITAT VALUE THAT THIS PARCEL POSSESSES. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? ENON WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          >> I WAS GOING TO SEEK CLARIFICATION ON WHETHER NOT WE 
          CAN SPLIT THIS READING. >> I THINK THE COURSE OF ACTION MOVING FORWARD GIVEN THE STATUTORY LIMITATION IS THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST READING AND YOU WOULD THEN SET THIS CONSERVATION FEET AT 100%. THE EFFECTIVE DATE WOULD BE 50%. 
          EACH YEAR THEY'RE ASKING FOR 5 YEARS YOU DECREASE THAT 10% , SO YOU HAVE TO SET THE MAXIMUM FEE TODAY. YOU CAN FACE THAT IN AND IMPLEMENT THAT OVER THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD. IT'S NOT RECOMMENDED YOU SPLIT THIS OUT. THIS IS THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE STILL ON THE STATUTE AND COME BACK FOR 2ND READING SO WE CAN DULY NOTICE THE CHANGE AT THE DECEMBER 2ND MEETING. BUT THE SECOND READING WOULD BE AT THE DECEMBER 2ND MEANING AND THAT NOVEMBER 18TH? 
          >> IT'S A NOTICING ISSUE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE -- 
          >> I'M PREPARED TO MAKE THAT MOTION IF YOU ALL ARE OKAY WITH IT. I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT WE SET THE CONSERVATION IMPACT FEE AT 100% TO BE PHASED-IN AT 12.5% PER YEAR OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS . IN THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE -- 
          >> I SECOND THAT. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMENTS? WRITE. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 
          5-0. CONGRATULATIONS. >> CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU TOO. 
          MISS WESCOTT DID THAT SATISFY YOUR REQUIREMENTS? 
          >> IT DID. GOOD MATH ON YOUR PART. YOU DID THE MORE 
          COMPLICATED BATH. >> NICOLE CROSBY SAID I COULD BE A HERO AND I'VE NVER HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE A HERO. OR CLOSE TO ANYTHING RESEMBLING A HERO. SO HERE I AM WITH THE 
          OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE HER HAPPY. >> VERY WELL DONE EVERYBODY. I 
          [4.	Potential Land Development Code Revisions: Recreational Vehicles, Outdoor Archery, and Development Order Application Procedures. The Board of County Commissioners has requested discussion on the following Land Development Code regulations: 1. Definition of Recreational Vehicle; 2. Outdoor archery as a Special Use in the Open Rural zoning designation; and 3. Development order application procedures. Staff seeks direction on any changes the Board would like implemented into the Land Development Code.]
LOVE IT. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4. JACOB SMITH. 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JACOB SMITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT TO PRESENT NOT THIS. A DISCUSSION ITEM TO TALK ABOUT 
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-- I'M SORRY. THE BOARD HAD GIVEN STAFF DIRECTION TO TALK ABOUT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES TO RECREATIONAL VEHICLES. SPECIAL USES FOR ARCHERY AND SOME PROCEDURAL MATTERS IN THE DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE , AND I APOLOGIZE WITH THE POWERPOINT. IS TO TALK ABOUT RECREATIONAL VEHICLES. THE BOARD HAD GIVEN STAFF DIRECTION TO MODIFY EITHER THE DEFINITION OR THE STANDARDS THAT WE APPLY TO RECREATIONAL VEHICLES OR RECREATIONAL VEHICLE CAMPGROUNDS. SO I'M GOING TO PULL UP WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE. WITH RECREATIONAL VEHICLES THE BIG DISCUSSION IS ON PARK TRAILERS. THE CURRENT DEFINITION INCLUDES A PARK TRAILER AND REFERENCES STATE STATUTES. LIKEWISE WE HAVE SOME IMPORTANT DEFINITIONS ABOUT RECREATIONAL VEHICLE CAMPGROUNDS AND THE DISCUSSION HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN POTENTIAL LIMITING CAMPGROUNDS TO A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OR AMOUNT OF PARK TRAILERS. THAT IS THE FIRST ITEM FOR DISCUSSION AND I'M HAPPY TO HEAR FROM THE BOARD AND 
          HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. >> COMMISSIONER MURPHY. 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD WOULD BE THIS IS THE STATE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE IS. . WE ARE GETTING THAT FROM THE STATE? 
          >> YES, SIR. THE DEFINITION WE ARE LOOKING AT ON THE SCREEN IS FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND IT DOES REFERENCE STATE STATUTES. WHERE PARK TRAILERS CONSIDERED -- 
          >> MY QUESTION IS TO THE BOARD , WHEN A COMPROMISE IN A WAY OF THE PERCENTAGE OF ALLOWABLE PARK TRAILERS AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT BE SOMETHING WE WOULD CONSIDER? 10%, 20% -- THE REST OF IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DRIVABLE RVS OR TRADITIONAL ARBY'S. I DON'T IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO. I FEEL LIKE I'M UNCOMFORTABLE GOING AWAY FROM STATE LAW WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT A MOTORHOME IS OR A MOBILE HOME OR WHATEVER THIS IS. BUT I KNOW THAT THERE GET INTO AND THAT WOULD BE A  T- HORIZONTAL HOTEL. I'M TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING ANYWHERE. NEED TO BE CAREFUL HOW WE DO THIS GOING 
          FORWARD IN THIS COUNTY. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. 
          >> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM LEGAL WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE. 
          EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A STATE LAW THAT LOOKS AT THE TWO THE SAME , COULD WE DO SOMETHING AT THE COUNTY LEVEL THAT SAYS THEY ARE 
          NOT THE SAME? >> YES. THAT'S THE DISCUSSION. 
          WHETHER OR NOT HOW YOU WANT TO TREAT THAT. DO YOU WANT TO EXCLUDE THEM, DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOUR DEFINITION OF RECREATIONAL VEHICLE, HE WILL LIMIT THEM. IT'S AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD. WE ADOPTED THE DEFINITION IN FLORIDA STATUTE BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO CONTINUE TO USE THAT, ALTHOUGH IT'S CLEARLY DEFINED FOR PEOPLE IN THAT SPACE. IT'S 
          UP TO THE BOARD. >> GREAT. 
          >> I'M NOT SAYING SOMEBODY COULD COME FORWARD WITH AN IDEA BUT I THINK AS FAR AS WHEN THINGS ARE APPROVED AND CLEARLY IT'S AN RV PARK AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY INTENDED TO DO, I WOULD LIKE MORE CLARIFICATION TO KEEP THEM WERE SEPARATE. 
          >> THAT IS A GOOD POINT BECAUSE IF WE KNEW -- THE RV, IF WE HAD KNOWN HOW MANY ARE PARK MODELS AND HOW MANY ARE DRIVABLE , I THINK THAT WOULD'VE MADE A DIFFERENCE. BUT IT WASN'T THIS BOARD. BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD POINT. 
          >> THAT'S KIND OF -- I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO THE BEACH. BUT I KNOW GOING FORWARD WE HAVE TO SET SOME KIND OF STANDARD WHEN IT COMES TO MODELS AND SOME KIND OF -- SOME KIND OF PERCENTAGE THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS WE DON'T WANT HORIZONTAL HOTELS THAT SKIRTS THE ISSUE AND HAVING SOME KIND OF A LIMIT 10%, 15%, OF TOTAL SPACES THAT CAN BE A PARK MODEL AT THAT. I LIKE 10% BECAUSE IT'S SMALLER. IF YOU GET 100 UNITS YOU CAN HAVE 10. I THINK THAT SEEMS FAIR TO ME, BUT I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT FOR THE 
          BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION. >> PUBLIC COMMENT OR 
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          COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >> AT THE SCHNEIDER FAMILY CAMPGROUND WE ASKED HIM WHAT WOULD BE A PALATABLE AMOUNT. 
          DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER? 20% FOR THE SCHNEIDER'S? 20 TOTAL UNITS OUT THERE. SO IT WAS 10%. THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD ONE. I DON'T HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. 10% I'M HAPPY WITH THAT TOO. 
          >> I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE DEAL. IF WE HAD KNOWN ABOUT IT WE WOULD'VE ASKED ABOUT IT. WE WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE -- IS THERE SOME SORT OF A RULE THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO DISCLOSE HOW MANY PARK MODELS VERSUS RV ? IF WE HADN'T ASKED -- IF WE ARE HERE 10 YEARS FROM NOW -- I MEAN, I KNOW YOU WILL BE. 
          >> NO. >> COMMISSIONER MURPHY. 
          >> I AGREE WITH YOU. WE NEED TO TAKE PROACTIVE MEASURES TODAY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CLEAR AND CONCISE -- THAT PEOPLE HAVE A CLEAR AND CONCISE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS APPROPRIATE HERE. 
          >> >> RIGHT NOW DEFINITION IS THROUGH STATUTE. COMBINES 
          >> WE CAN SEPARATE THAT. >> COOL. THANKS. 
          >> WE WILL NOW ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4. 
          NOW. >> I KNOW HOW TO DO IT. 
          >> I AM MARINO CONNOR. I LIVE IN THE VILLANO BEACH AREA OF SAN AUGUSTINE. MY PRESENTATION IS WHETHER OR NOT THE TERMS ARE CORRECT AS WE KNOW. RECREATIONAL VEHICLES AS PARK MODELS THE AMBIGUITY OF THE TERM. LOCATION LOCATION. THANK YOU. LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION. THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT LOCATION. PROPERTY IS IN A FEMA DESIGNATED HIGH HAZARD COASTAL FLOODING ZONE. THE PERMIT IN 2021 WAS GRANTED FOR A TRADITIONAL RV CAMPGROUND. THE DEVELOPER HAS DESCRIBED AS A HORIZONTAL HOTEL. THE PROPERTY IS NOT ZONED FOR ONGOING RESIDENCY OR HOTEL USE. TYPES OF CAMPGROUNDS. PRIMITIVE ARE BACK COUNTRY. THESE ARE PRIMARILY TENTS WITH VERY FEW AMENITIES. RV CAMPING TRADITIONAL ARBY'S SOME BASIC AMENITIES ELECTRICITY AND WATER ET CETERA. PARK MODEL RESORTS. FULL RESORT, AMENITY CENTER, SWIMMING POOLS, TENNIS OR PICKLEBALL, GOLF CART RENTALS ET CETERA. THE SOURCES RESERVE AMERICA. HERE'S A PICTURE OF YOUR TRADITIONAL RV. THIS IS THE TRADITIONAL RV VERSUS A PARK MODEL. THE DIFFERENCE -- THEY ARE BUILT ON A TRAILER CHASSIS THAT ARE TECHNICALLY CLASSIFIED AS AN OVERSIZED RV MEANING THEY ARE TOPOL BY SPECIALIZED VEHICLES BUT DESIGNED FOR LONG-TERM OR SEMIPERMANENT RESIDENCE PLACEMENT IN AN RV PARK OR CAMPGROUND RATHER THAN A FREQUENT TRAVEL. UNLIKE RV PARK MODELS ARE NOT MEANT FOR FREQUENT TRAVEL BUT SERVED AS SEMIPERMANENT RESIDENCE FOR VACATION HOMES. SOURCE OF THIS WAS THE PHOENIX PARK MODEL COMPANY. THEY ARE ANCHORED. TO THE GROUND ARE PLACED PERMANENTLY. PARK MODELS AND RV TRAILERS ARE SIMILAR TO THE KEY DIFFERENCES THE PARK MODELS CONNECT RESIDENTIAL UTILITIES. 
          PARK MODELS RESEMBLE HOMES THAT ARE LESS MOBILE. DUE TO LOSS OF TIME I WILL JUST GIVE A CONCLUSION. A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEVELOPER DESCRIBE THE PROPOSED BEACH PROJECT AS A HORIZONTAL HOTEL. THE PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED AS AN RV PARK AT THE NEW PLANS CALL FOR 169 TO 170 RENTABLE CABINS OR PARK MODELS. INSTEAD OF THE TRADITIONAL RV SITES. MEETING TO THE HORIZONTAL HOTEL. MY SOURCE IS A I. 
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          >> OFTEN, WAY TOO EASILY. THAT NEEDS TO BE ROLLED BACK AND CONTROLLED. A HARDSHIP IS NOT THE DEVELOPER NEEDS TO MAKE MORE MONEY, GREED IS A SIN, AND THAT NEEDS TO BE STOPPED. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT DEVELOPERS ARE DOING. WE HAVE SEEN THE CLEARCUTTING OF THIS LAND. I WONDER IF SOME OF THE REQUIRED ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES WERE ACTUALLY DONE. CERTAINLY HAVE NOT SEEN THEM, HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ACCESS TO THEM, AND YET THEY ARE OUT THERE. WE ARE ASKING YOU, PUT A STOP ON IT UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THESE PLANS ARE AND SAY THIS IS WITHIN THE COASTAL ZONING, OR IT IS NOT. WE DO KNOW BASED ON THEM USING THE EXACT WORDS THAT THEY ARE NOT LETTING AN RV PARK THAT THIS SHOULD NOT BE CONTINUED , AND THIS LAND SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN CLEARED, BUT THE RVS AREN'T THERE, THE STRUCTURE IS NOT THERE , IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO SAVE ALANO AND NORTH BEACH, PLEASE. WE NEED YOU TO. THANK YOU. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I AM MICHAEL COMPTON, 114 3RD STREET, LAST 25 YEARS, SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE VILLANO BEACH AREA. I AM SPEAKING TODAY OBVIOUSLY ABOUT THE VILLANO BEACH HORIZONTAL HOTEL CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT. I WANTED TO, INSTEAD OF JUST TELLING YOU THE SAME OLD THING, I WANT-- I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE , ACTUALLY AT THE VIDEOTAPE OF THAT AGREEMENT THAT WAS PASSED IN 2021. A LITTLE HISTORY, THIS WAS AN RV PARK. AND, IN 2017 WATERMARK TRIED TO PUT IN A HOTEL CONVENTION CENTER THERE. IT WAS VOTED DOWN. THE BEACHCOMBER WAS PUT IN, THIS GROUP CAME IN WITH THE IDEA TO WORK EXTENSIVELY WITH THE WITH THE IDEA IS TO BE AN RV PARK, AS IT WAS BEFORE. WE HAD NUMEROUS SPEAKERS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO SPOKE IN FAVOR. IN FACT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANYONE WHO DIDN'T SPEAK OF IN FAVOR. HENRY DEAN, THE REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR AREA, PAUL WALDRON, AND CHRISTIAN WHITEHURST WHO REMAINS ON THE BOARD TODAY. THE COMMENTS THAT WERE PUT IN BY THE RESIDENTS WAS SMALL-SCALE . THIS WAS ALSO QUOTES FROM THE DEVELOPER , IT REQUIRES LESS WATER AND SEWAGE THAN RESIDENTS AND OTHER TYPE OF REUSES. IT'S LARGELY PERVIOUS , IN OTHER WORDS, NO IMPERVIOUS MATERIALS, ONLY 8.8% WAS GOING TO BE IMPERVIOUS. NO SIGNIFICANT LANDFILL WOULD BE REQUIRED. 
          EVERYBODY LOVED THAT. THEN WE WOULD PRESERVE THE TREE'S NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, THE LEAST IMPACT WE COULD HAVE IN VILLANO, 
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AND "BRING VILLANO BACK TO WHAT IT USED TO TO BE, AHISTORICAL, SMALL VILLAGE." BASICALLY, WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE DEVELOPER THEN SOLD THAT RIGHT TO DLP FOR $15 MILLION. DOP CAME IN INITIALLY AND SAID THAT WOULD BE A HORIZONTAL HOTEL, FORGET THE RVS. WE WILL HAVE WHAT WE NEED TO DO. SO BASICALLY WHERE WE ARE AT HERE IS THAT I'VE MET WITH SEVERAL OF THE COMMISSIONERS BEFORE, AND THEY WOULDN'T DARE TO SPEAK FOR ANYBODY'S POSITION ON THIS AND WHAT THEY PASSED AT THAT TIME. CLEARLY WHAT'S BEEN BUILT IS NOT WHAT WAS PROMISED TO THE RESIDENTS. HOWEVER, I DID HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS AND MET PAUL WALDRON, AN EXCELLENT MAN. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU THIS, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, MR. WALDRON, HAD HE SEEN WHAT'S BEEN BUILT WOULD NEVER HAVE VOTED FOR THIS. I THINK THIS WAS A BAIT AND SWITCH WITH THE COUNTY. AND, I THINK SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO ADMIT , HEY, WE GOT TAKEN. I THINK IT'S TIME TO GO BACK AND HAVE THE CURRENT DEVELOPER EXPLAIN WHAT THEY ARE DOING, AND WHY. THANK YOU. 
          >> YES, SIR. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM CLIFF DICKINSON, 41 13 SAINT AUGUSTINE. MANY POINTS HAVE ARTY BEEN EXPRESSED WITH WHICH I AGREE. I WANT TO MAKE A FEW MORE. LAST TIME I SPOKE BEFORE YOU A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO I ENDED MY COMMENTS WITH A QUESTION, DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT IS BEING BUILT ON THE SITE AT 3450 AND 3455 HIGHWAY TO THANK SOMEONE DOES, BECAUSE THERE IS DEVELOPING WITH SOME TYPE OF PLAN. THEREFORE SOMEONE KNOWS, BUT FOR SOME REASON, THAT ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS BEING INVADED AND NOT BEING MADE PUBLIC. I SUGGEST TO YOU THAT THEIR INTENTIONS ARE VEILED, BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT PROCEEDING WITHIN THE LAW. IT IS NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPROVED PERMIT . SO, I ASKED TODAY, UNDER WHAT BUILDING STRUCTURE AND LAND-USE WILL IT BE TAXED , OR WILL IT BE TREATED AS VEHICLES THAT ONLY REQUIRE A LICENSE PLATE AND VEHICLE REGISTRATION? I GOT MY TAX BILL LAST NIGHT, AND IT DOES NOT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SOME OF OUR COMMISSIONERS CAMPAIGNED THEY WOULD STOP UNCHECKED DEVELOPMENT. WELL HERE'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE UP TO YOUR PROMISES, AND THANK YOU -- ST. JOHNS COUNTY BUILDING CODE IS BEING TRAMPLED BY DEVELOPERS AND FROM WITHIN BY THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT THAT IS IN CHARGE OF ENFORCING THE CODE. 
          MANY VARIANCES ARE GRANTED, BECAUSE OF SUPPOSEDLY HARDSHIPS. 
          MANY OF THESE HARDSHIPS ARE CAUSED BY THE DEVELOPERS THEMSELVES, BY DIVIDING LOTS INTO MULTIPLE LOTS WHERE ONLY WHEN EXISTED PREVIOUSLY. I AM ASKING THE BOARD TO REQUIRE THE DEVELOPMENT TO PROCEED UNDER THE APPROVED PERMIT AS RV PARK, OR STOP DEVELOPMENT, IMMEDIATELY. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> I AGREE. GOOD AFTERNOON.-- UNLIKE GORDON GECKO IN WALL STREET, I DON'T THINK GREED IS GOOD, AND WE HAVE SEEN WHAT GREED WHAT-- HAS DONE TO OUR COUNTY. FASTER THAN A SPEEDING DUMP TRUCK WHAT WE KNOW AND LOVE ABOUT ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS BEING DESTROYED. FOR THE RECORD I DON'T SEE ANY LOBBYIST OR LAWYER FOR THE DEVELOPER IN THE ROOM. IF THEY ARE HERE IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE THEM COME UP SO I COULD CROSS-EXAMINE THEM? CROSS-EXAMINATION IS SAID TO BE THE GREATEST ENGINE EVER FOR THE DISCOVERY OF TRUTH. AND TOO SELDOM DO WE EVER HAVE IT HERE AT ST. JOHNS COUNTY AT THE COMMISSION. DEVELOPERS GET UP HERE AND YAMMER , THEY DON'T SAY ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE. ANYWAY. UM-- PLEASE TIGHTEN UP YOUR COAT, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. AND I YIELD THE BALANCE 
          OF MY TIME, THANK YOU. >> NICOLE CROSBY, 1169 NECK ROAD. I LIVE IN THE VICINITY , ALTHOUGH NOT IN VILLANO MY LIVE CLOSE BY. WE WERE WATCHING HORRIFIC VIDEOS OVER THE WEEKEND, I AM SURE YOU DID, OF THESE HOMES FALLING INTO THE OCEAN. THAT WAS NEVER HAVE SUPPOSED TO HAVE HAPPENED, AND WHEN YOU READ UP ON THE HISTORY OF HOW IT HAPPENED AND HOW IT CAME TO BE , OBVIOUSLY THERE WERE SOME HUMAN DECISIONS MADE AND THINGS THAT DIDN'T GET FOLLOWED THROUGH ON, AND ALL KINDS OF REASONS BEHIND IT. I'M ASKING YOU ALL TODAY TO ENVISION A PARK FULL OF RVS FALLING ON THEIR SIDE ON NATIONAL TV, FLOATING AROUND , COMMENTATORS ASKING "HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? WHAT'S THE HISTORY ON THIS? HOW COULD THIS BE? WHY ARE WE 
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WATCHING THIS? " THEY WERE PUT IN AS RECENTLY AS 2026, LOOK. 
          HOW COULD THIS BE? SO, I AM JUST SAYING , WE ARE GOING TO GET HIT WITH WATER AT THAT POINT AT THAT LOCATION. SO, I AM JUST ASKING, DO EVERYTHING YOU POSSIBLY CAN. I KNOW THAT, SUPPOSEDLY I KEEP HEARING THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO. 
          I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO. 
          THANK YOU. >> AFTERNOON. 
          >> CHUCK LUBANOWSKI. IT'S A PERMANENT STRUCTURE. IT'S NOT MOVABLE. IF YOU HAVE EVACUATION, YOU CANNOT MOVE THAT. ACCORDING TO THE STATE, I'M SURPRISED IT'S STILL IN THERE. THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT PARK MODELS BEING 14 FEET WIDE? TRY MOVING THAT DOWN AN EVACUATION ROUTE. IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. SO, YOU HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO ALLOW INTO A CAMPGROUND. AND, RIGHT NOW, I'VE GOT KOA SHOWING RIGHT NOW ON THE SCREEN. IF YOU WOULD LOOK AT THAT THERE'S OVER 100 SITES, THERE'S PROBABLY ANOTHER DOZEN SITES THAT ARE PRIMITIVE. BUT, THERE'S ONLY TWO CABINS. SO 10%, THAT'S A HIGH NUMBER. I THINK IT SHOULD BE EVEN LOWER THAN THAT, BUT IT GOES BACK. YOU HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT A PARKING MODEL IS. IS THAT A PERMANENT BUILDING, OR IS THAT GOING TO BE MOBILE? ARE YOU GOING TO RESTRICT THE LIFTS ON 
          IT? >> ANYONE ELSE FOR COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 42 SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC 
          COMMENT. >> CAN I ASK ATTORNEY WEST A QUESTION? UM-- SO, I ALWAYS WONDERED THIS, WHEN WE APPROVE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER APPROVING A STORAGE UNIT ON U.S. 
          1 BY THE CANINE FOR WARRIORS, AND IT HASN'T BEEN BUILT, YET. 
          I THINK I APPROVED IT THE VERY FIRST YEAR, AND NOW THERE IS A FOR SALE SIGN ON IT. SO, IF SOMEONE BUYS IT, DO THEY HAVE TO DO ALL THE THINGS THEY PROMISED US WHEN THEY APPROVED? 
          >> UNLESS THEY COME IN AND CHANGE THE ZONING, YES. THAT'S THE CURRENT USE OF THAT PROPERTY. SO THEY CAN COME IN 
          AND CHANGE THAT. >> SO, IF WE MADE -- UM-- SO, A 
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WEST INDICATED THERE WAS REZONING THAT WAS MAJOR MODIFICATION THAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED IN 2020, WHICH GAVE US RIGHTS TO BE AN RV CAMPGROUND. SUBSEQUENT TO THAT WE HAD A MINOR MODIFICATION AND SMALL ADJUSTMENS. THOSE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS , AND IT'S IN THE NAME . MAJOR IS MORE DRASTIC MIGHT BE MOVEMENT OF WETLAND STRAND THAT IS SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT FOR EXAMPLE, AND SMALL ADJUSTMENTS ARE THOSE THAT ARE APPROVED THROUGH STAFF SO SOMETHING THAT IS VERY MINOR AND WOULDN'T GENERATE A PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE'VE HAD TWO SMALL ADJUSTMENTS, SO WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY VARIANCES. WE HAD THE REZONING, AND TWO SMALL ADJUSTMENTS, THE REZONING, AND TWO SMALL ADJUSTMENTS. 
          >> CAN YOU GO OVER WHAT HAS BEEN CHANGED AND APPROVED? 
          >> SURE. SO, ONE OF THEM , THIS WAS THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION UPDATE TO INCLUDE REVISED BUILDING AND PARKING LOCATIONS. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER-- WAS UM-- DEVELOPMENT OF RV CAMPGROUND STORM WATER MANAGEMENT WILL NOT EXCEED THE 35,000 SQUARE FEET SO SOMETIMES, WHEN THEY COME IN WITH A MAP AT THE MAJOR MODIFICATION LEVEL, OR THE P.U.D. LEVEL , IT WON'T BE CORRECT, SO THEY WILL TWEAK THE MAP. THE REASON YOU HAVE THESE SMALL ADJUSTMENTS IN PARTICULAR IS BECAUSE ALMOST EVERY DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES IN THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME TWEAKS TO IT, RIGHT? BECAUSE OF THE TIME THEY COME IN TCU AT REZONING, THE SURVEY,WHATEVER IT IS, SO THERE'S TWEAKS. SO THE REASON YOU HAVE THESE IS SO THEY DON'T COME BACK TO YOU ON EVERY SINGLE TWEAK, SO THAT SOME BACKGROUND AS TO THE SMALL ADJUSTMENTS, AND THOSE ARE THE TWO WE MADE. 
          >> THANK YOU. I REALIZE THIS ISN'T EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS, BUT WE HAD A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE THIS MORNING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE HEARING THEM, AND I HAVE ARTY SHARED THAT I WISH THERE WAS MORE IN OUR CONTROL, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE LEGALLY THERE'S NOT A LOT WE CAN DO THAT'S CORRECT REGARDING THIS, BUT THIS JUST REALLY REINFORCES WHY WE REALLY NEED TO GET THE DEFINITION OF RV PARK MODEL VERY VERY CLEAR, SO THAT IN THE FUTURE WE ARE NOT GOING THROUGH THIS, AGAIN. 
          THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY THE DEFINITION THAT WE NEED TO HAMMER DOWN AND REGARDLESS OF THE PERCENTAGE AND THAT, I THINK IT IS VERY CLEAR IT SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR THAT OUR COUNTY DOES NOT WANT TO DO WHAT THE STATE IS RECOMMENDING, THAT THE TWO ARE THE SAME. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT THERE IS AN RV, AND-- BECAUSE AGAIN WE ALREADY HAVE THE DEFINITIONS TO SEPARATE THEM IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> I WANTED TO ADDRESS MR. COMPTON'S PUBLIC COMMENT SPECIFIC ABOUT HOW MANY OR WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PARK TRAILERS ARE ALLOWED THERE. BECAUSE AGAIN, WE DO HAVE THE DEFINITIONS TO SEPARATE THEM IN THE LAND 
          DEVELOPMENT CODE. >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? -- FORGIVENESS THAT WE CAN FORESEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMING FORWARD, OR EVEN AS A POSSIBILITY, SO I JUST WANTED TO 
          CLEAR THAT UP FOR YOU. >> I WAS KIND OF ALLUDING TO THAT BECAUSE PARK MODELS ARE REALLY NEW. SO, WHERE DO WE GO 
          FROM HERE? >> SO STAFF WAS LOOKING FOR A DIRECTION, SO WE CAN UPDATE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE WOULD 
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BRING THAT BACK TO YOU. AT SOME POINT IN TIME. KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE ARE, SO THIS WOULD BE A CHANGE HERE LINDA VELTMAN CODE AND KEEPING IN MIND UNDER SENATE BILL 180 WE HAD TO BE COGNIZANT OF THINGS THAT ARE BURDENSOME, OR MORE RESTRICTIVE, AND ELIMINATING SOMETHING WOULD BE CONSIDERED THAT, SO WE ARE GOING TO WAIT MAYBE A BEAT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS UNDER SENATE BILL 180. 
          >> EVEN IF IT'S BURDENSOME IN A STORM? OKAY, SORRY. I JUST HAD TO-- COMMISSIONER MURPHY, AND THEN-- 
          >> WELL-- I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE FIRST THING. WE HAVE THE DEFINITION, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE AND A PARK MODEL IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PARKED TRAILERS AND RVS TO 10%, THAT WOULD BE MY 
          SUGGESTION. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY, WE DID THE MATH ON THE SNYDER CAMPGROUND. IT WAS A TOTAL NUMBER OF 25, AND IT LOOKED LIKE THEY PROPOSED AROUND 316, SO IT WAS AROUND 12.5%, VERY CLOSE TO YOU, COMMISSIONER MURPHY. 
          >> DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS FOR THAT? YEAH? YEAH? OKAY. THERE WE 
          GO. THANK YOU, JACOB. >> THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A FEW 
          MORE ITEMS. >> 
          COMMENT-- >> NO, SORRY, WE ONLY HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT. I'M SORRY. YOU COULD COME BACK AT PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU. OR, EMAIL ALL OF US. 
          >> YES, MA'AM. OUTDOOR ARCHERY HAS A SPECIAL USE IN RURAL ZONING. SO , THE BOARD HAD GIVEN STAFF DIRECTION TO COME UP WITH SOME LANGUAGE THAT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO ALLOW ARCHERY FACILITIES IN OPEN RURAL. CURRENTLY AS A BIT OF BACKGROUND, ARCHERY IS IN ORLANDO VELTMAN CODE, BUT IT CONTEMPLATES INDOOR FACILITIES AND IS SILENT TO AN OUTDOOR FACILITY. WHAT WE INTENDED TO DO WITH THIS WAS MODEL -- FOR BOARD DISCUSSION. THERE IS A SECOND COMPONENT OF THIS WHERE WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE COMMERCIAL FIRING RANGES ARE ORGANIZED IN THE SAME FASHION IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, BUT THE REAL PURPOSE IS FOR THE ARCHERY RANGE. 
          >> COMMISSIONER MURPHY? >> I WOULD ASK FOR BOARD CONSENSUS TO INCLUDE OUTDOOR ARCHERY AS A SPECIAL USE IN THE OPEN RURAL ZONING DESIGNATION. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT DEVELOPMENT ORDER APPLICATION 
          PROCEDURES MEANS AT NUMBER 3. >> THAT IS PART 3. 
          >> STILL TO GO RIGHT? >> I'LL BE QUICK. CURRENTLY, IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, IF AN APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED AN UP LOCATION FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND HAS BEEN SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OUR PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY TO REQUEST WITHDRAWAL OF THAT APPLICATION, AND IT HAS BEEN PROPOSED TO STAFF THAT PERHAPS A SIMPLE , MORE SIMPLE OPTION OF SIMPLY ALLOWING THEM TO APPROACH STAFF TO WITHDRAW THEIR APPLICATION AND NOT HAVING TO COME BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO HAVE THAT ITEM WITHDRAWN. AND SO, HERE IS THE STRIKETHROUGH LANGUAGE 
          SHOWING THAT ITEM. >> 
          >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> 
          >> THERE IS. ONE LAST PART TO THIS. IT IS RELATED. IT'S RELATED TO-- REZONINGS. CURRENTLY, IF YOU ARE DENIED A REZONING YOU HAVE TO WAIT ONE YEAR TO COME BACK, AND THERE'S A SET OF REGULATIONS THAT DETERMINE THAT PROCESS PREVIOUSLY, AND IT'S THE BOTTOM LINE HERE. IT'S STRUCTURE PREVIOUSLY. PREVIOUSLY, IF YOU WERE GOING TO COME BACK INSIDE THAT ONE-YEAR TIME PERIOD, IT WAS BECAUSE OF JUSTICE TO FACILITATE PROPER DEVELOP AND WHAT THE COUNTY. THAT WASN'T VERY WELL DEFINED, SO STAFF HAS COME UP WITH WHICH REGARDING CHANGES AND THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA INFRASTRUCTURE OR SURROUNDING LAND USES THAT AN APPLICANT CAN SUBMIT TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD FOR A WAIVER FOR A ONE YEAR TIME LIMIT. AND LIKEWISE THERE IS SIMILAR LANGUAGE FOR THE PLANNING AND 
          ZONING THAT WE MADE A CHANGE TO. >> SO, DO WE END UP HEARING THIS 
          MORE? DO WE-- CAN YOU JUST-- >> SURE. THE INTENT OF THIS IS 
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TO REQUIRE THE APPLICAT TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT HAS CHANGED THAT MAKES IT A REASONABLE OPTION TO COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER. PREVIOUSLY THE LANGUAGE YOU CAN TO PREVENT INJUSTICE OR FACILITATE THE PROPER DEVELOPMENT OF THE COUNTY IS VERY VAGUE, SO WE CAME UP WITH A LIST OF BULLETED POINTS TO TRY IN SCREEN THESE APPLICATIONS, BEFORE THEY CAN COME IN AND MAKE THEIR WAY FOR REQUEST. 
          [Item 5 & 6]
          >> OKAY, GREAT. >> THAT CONCLUDES MY 
          PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. >> AGENDA ITEM 5. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS KAYLEE MCCOMB. I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. I CURRENTLY LIVE ON. HE WROTE, WHICH IS OFF 13 COME OUT ON THE RIVER. I HAVE TWO REQUESTS HERE. THE MAJOR REQUEST IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM RURAL CIVIC CULTURE ON THE FIVE ACRE PARCEL THAT I OWN OFF COUNTY ROAD 208. 
          MY SECOND REQUEST IS A NON-ZONING VARIANCE REGARDING SUBDIVISION AND PLANNING REQUIREMENTS. HERE IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY, AND I WILL GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND. 
          IT IS OFF COUNTY ROAD 208 CLOSE TO COUNTY ROAD 13. IT IS DOWN AN EASEMENT, IT IS THE HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW SQUARE THERE IN THE BACK. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO SHOW THAT THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION DOES INCLUDE THE EASEMENT TO MY PROPERTY . SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND. LIKE I SAID I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE. UM-- I WAS LIVING OUT ON THE RIVER A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THOSE TWO STORMS WITHIN TWO MONTHS. I KNEW I WANTED TO STAY IN THE AREA BUT FOR SAFETY I JUST WANTED TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE OFF THE RIVER. 
          SO, WHEN THIS FIVE-ACRE LOT WENT FOR SALE I BOUGHT IT FOR MYSELF, NO REALTOR, NO GROUND INFORMATION. NO NOTHING. I JUST KNEW I WANTED IT. SO LESSONS I HAVE PURCHASED IT, I HAVE LEARNED SO MANY THINGS, BECAUSE AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT MUCH I CAN DO WITH IT. UNLESS THESE APPLICATIONS ARE APPROVED. SO, THE CURRENT ZONING AND LAND-USE IS OPEN RURAL AND RURAL CIVIC CULTURE, AND DUE TO MY PARCEL BEING FIVE ACRES THAT'S WHY I CANNOT DEVELOP IT UNDER THE RURAL CIVIC CULTURE DESIGNATION. UM-- SOME CHARACTERISTICS OF THE AREA, AND WHY I DO LOVE IT SO MUCH, IT IS MAINLY FAMILIES. I DO HAVE TWO SMALL CHILDREN THAT I DO WANT TO RAISE IN THE AREA. I LOVE SEEING THE FARMS . I LOVE SEEING THE FARM ANIMALS. THEY ARE PREDOMINANTLY LARGE LOTS WITH SINGLE RESIDENTS. I PUT IN THE TEXT AMENDMENT MYSELF, LIMITING IT TO ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IN CASE DOWN THE LINE OR IN THE FUTURE SOMETHING HAPPENS IT WILL BE ONE RESIDENCE ON THE FIVE-ACRE PARCEL. 
          EMPHASIZING LAND USE AND RECREATION. THERE ARE DEER AND TURKEY, AND BIRDS, AND ALL THE THINGS YOU CAN IMAGINE. AND I WANT THEM TO STAY THERE . I WANT MY CHILDREN TO SEE THEM IN OUR YARD. UM-- THIS IS MY PARCEL THERE. AND, THEY ARE JUST SHOWING OTHER UM-- FUTURE LAND-USE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN GRANTED. UM-- THERE WAS ONE FAMILY, THE ARNOLD'S , WHO ALMOST DEVELOPED THIS WHOLE AREA. AND, I WILL GO INTO THAT ON THE NEXT SLIDE HERE. UM-- BUT AT ONE TIME, THE ARNOLD'S OWNED FROM 13 COME ALL THE WAY DOWN OVER TO ADA ARNOLD ROAD ALL THE WAY TO BUDDY BOYS , AND BACK DOWN. SO, THEY SUBDIVIDED AND PLOTTED MOST OF THIS AREA AT ONE TIME OVER A 20-YEAR SPAN . THERE WERE 200 DEEDS REGISTERED TO BOTH OF THESE PEOPLE . SO THEY DID FORM THIS AREA, AND I DID PURCHASE MY PARCEL DIRECTLY FROM ADA ARNOLD'S. SO, I BELIEVE THAT THOSE PAST APPLICATIONS WERE PROBABLY DO TO SOMETHING RELATED TO THE ARNOLD'S AND THEIR DIVIDING OF THIS AREA. UM-- SO AGAIN, I AM REQUESTING UM-- A NON-ZONING VARIANCE, BECAUSE WHEN THESE PARCELS WERE DIVIDED 10 YEARS BEFORE I PURCHASED IT, IT WAS NOT PLOTTED 
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CORRECTLY. SO, IT STARTED AS ONE PARENT PARCEL AND WAS DIVIDED FIVE TIMES ALL BY THE ARNOLD'S. HERE IS JUST A SITE SURVEY UM-- YOU DO START UP HERE AT COUNTY ROAD 208, AND YOU COME DOWN THE EASEMENT, WHICH IS CLEARED AND MAINTAINED BY ME AND THE ADJACENT LANDOWNER. HE DID PROVIDE A LETTER OF SUPPORT, ME AND HIM HAVE BECOME GREAT FRIENDS, AND WE LIKE TO ACCESS OUR PROPERTY. I DID PUT THE CULVERT IN AND THE DRIVEWAY SO WE COULD BOTH USE IT. THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BETTER VIEW. THAT IS WHERE YOU COME DOWN THE EASEMENT FROM COUNTY ROAD 208. 
          AND THAT IS MY PARCEL IN THE BACK. IF YOU NOTICE, ON THE SOUTH CORNER THERE UM-- I CANNOT FIND ANY RECORDS OF ANY STRUCTURES OR HOMES OR ANYTHING BEING ON THIS PARCEL. BUT, THERE IS AN AREA THAT WAS CLEARED AT SOME POINT. AND THAT'S THE POINT WE PLANNED TO WORK OFF OF TO BUILD OUR HOME IN THE AREA THAT HAS BEEN CLEARED A LITTLE BIT. THIS IS A VERY BASIC SITE PLAN. I DO NOT HAVE ANY SITE PLANS. I HAD NOT DONE ANY TESTING UM-- THIS WAS THE FIRST STEP TO BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE PROPERTY AT ALL. SO LIKE I SAID WE PLANNED TO PUT THE HOUSE HERE IN THAT AREA THAT WAS CLEARED UM-- AND ALL OF THE WOODS WILL REMAIN UM-- I PLAN TO CLEAR ONLY TWO ACRES, AND LEAVE THE WOODS IN THE BACK, THERE. AND THAT'S JUST STANDING THERE LOOKING INTO THAT HOLE IN THAT LAST PICTURE THAT SHOWS THERE IS A CLEARING THERE. THESE ARE THE HOUSES ON EACH SIDE OF MY PROPERTY. IT IS A VERY MUCH RESIDENTIAL AREA , OF COURSE BESIDES THE FARMS. BUT, THAT'S WHY WE PICKED UP. WE WANTED TO SEE THE FARMS, AND THE TRACTORS UM-- THAT'S WHAT WE WANT, AND THAT'S WHY I PURCHASED THAT LAND. I DON'T KNOW THE TYPE OF STYLE OF HOUSE I WILL HAVE. BUT, IT WILL MATCH THE AREA. UM-- AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE DIRECT LABOR DID PROVIDE A LETTER OF SUPPORT. WE DO MAINTAIN THE EASEMENT JOINTLY. I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE. I KNOW A THIRD OF THE PEOPLE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA. I DID LIVE OUT THERE LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES FROM THIS PROPERTY FOR FIVE YEARS. I AM RESPECT-- RESTRICTING THE DWELLING AND LIVING MORE WOODS THAN I AM TAKING DOWN TO LESSEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. AND, I DID GO TO THE PCA LAST MONTH, AND IT WAS APPROVED WITH A VOTE OF 7-0. I WILL SAY I DID MUCH BETTER TODAY. I WAS NOT NERVOUS LAST MONTH, BUT MY BODY WAS, AND I WAS JUST CRING AND COULD 
          NOT-- >> YOU ARE DOING GREAT. 
          >> SO, I AM VERY SURPRISED TODAY. BUT, THAT IS ALL, AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. 
          >> I FORGOT TO DO THE QUASIJUDICIAL PART. COMMISSIONER 
          ARNOLD? >> THE SAME, NO RECORD. 
          >> THE SAME, NO RECORD. >> COMMISSIONER MURPHY? 
          >> AND ME NEITHER. THANK YOU. VERY WELL DONE. LET'S OPEN UP 
          FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 5? SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          >> JUST FOR THE RECORD, CHAIR, YOU HAVE TWO ITEMS BEFORE YOU. 
          ITEMS 5 AND 6. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? 
          >> I MOVED TO APPROVE -- APPROVING AMENDMENT 2025-05, MCHONE PROPERTY BASED UPON'S FINDINGS AND FACT AND RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STAFF REPORT. 
          >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. PLEASE VOTE. THAT 
          PASSES, 5-0. >> MOTION TO APPROVE NON-ZONING VARIANCE 2025-18, REQUEST FOR RELIEF FROM SUBDIVISION AND PLOTTING REQUIREMENTS OF THE LDC TO BRING THE PREVIOUSLY DIVIDED FIVE-ACRE PARCEL INTO COMPLIANCE ACED UPON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT AND FORMAT CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. 
          >> I WILL SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. HAVE A GOOD TIME MAKING YOUR LIFE. THAT'S AWESOME. 
          >> GREAT JOB . >> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6. NOPE, 7 , SORRY. HI. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TO ADVERTISE 211. THANK 
          YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME. I AM WITH CREDIT HILL WITH THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER . AS I TALKED THROUGH 211 YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHY SHE'S HERE. SO FIRST, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU TO KRISTA JOSEPH FOR ASKING US TO COME HERE AND SHARE THE GOOD TOOL THAT IS 211. AND THE 
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BOARD FOR GIVING US THE TIME TO TALK THROUGH IT. I WILL GO OVER A BIT OF AN OVERVIEW, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT WE ARE AND WHO WE ARE. THAT TIES INTO 211, OR WHY WE HAVE A ROBUST NETWORK . I WILL GO AHEAD AND START. THERE 
          WE GO. >> SO OUR FOCUS AREA IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. YOU KNOW THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT KEEP FAMILIES UP AT NIGHT. THE FINANCIAL SECURITY, THINK HOMELESSNESS, HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. COMMUNITY RESILIENCE, THINK HURRICANE RELIEF. THINKING OF THE WOMAN WHO NEEDS A RAMP TO GET DOWN THE STAIRS. FOCUSING ON LITERACY, BOOKS AND SUPPLIES FOR KIDS, AND HEALTHY COMMUNITY DRUG TREATMENT MENTAL HEALTH, AND ALSO A REALLY STRONG FOCUS ON STUDENT MENTAL HEALTH, WHICH IS IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY IN THE WORLD WE LIVE IN, TODAY. SO, HOW WE ARE FUNDED, THESE ARE THE MAIN BUCKETS THAT DRIVE OUR FUNDRAISING. WORKPLACE GIVING, CORPORATE DONATIONS, INDIVIDUAL GRANTS, DONATIONS, AND EVENTS. 
          THIS ROLLS UP TO THE LAST FIVE YEARS. WE WERE AWARDED OVER $10 MILLION TO LIFE-CHANGING PROGRAMS HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND PUTNAM, AS WELL. THESE ARE OUR PARTNER AGENCIES. 
          IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THESE, BECAUSE THEY SPAN A GREAT WIDE NETWORK OF NEEDS. RIGHT? IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ONE THING. IT'S EVERYTHING. SO FOR EXAMPLE, LEARN TO READ ON THE RIGHT THERE. THAT FOCUSES ON LITERACY. THAT'S A VERY SPECIFIC NEED. BELOW IT IS BETTY GRIFFIN CENTER THAT HOUSES WOMEN AND MEN THAT ARE ESCAPING ABUSIVE HOUSEHOLDS. SO MY POINT IN POINTING THAT OUT IS THE BREATH OF SUPPORT THAT WE SURPRISE-- PROVIDE THIS COMMUNITY. EVERYTHING, FROM LITTLE TO BIG , IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT. WHAT WE DO IS VERY CRITICAL FOR THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. ADDITIONAL ITEMS WE COVER, V.I.T.A.-- 988. 24/7 SUICIDE CRISIS LINE. AND EMPTY STOCKING FUND, WHICH IS A SEASONAL INITIATIVE, WHERE WE MAKE SURE KIDS AND FAMILIES WHO DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR PRESENTS AND FOOD HAVE WHAT THEY NEED FOR THAT HOLIDAY SEASON. 
          >> SO WHAT IS 211? I DON'T WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS, BUT I MET WITH ALL OF YOU SO YOU KNOW WHAT TO WHEN ONE IS . I THINK WE NEED MORE AWARENESS. WITH AWARENESS COMES MORE USAGE WHICH DEMANDS MORE FUNDING. KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL. 211 IS A FREE CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION REFERRAL SERVICE THAT CONNECTS PEOPLE TO LOCAL RESOURCES THAT PROVIDE HELP AND ESSENTIAL NEEDS INCLUDING HOUSING AND SHELTER, FOOD, HEALTH, FINANCIAL SUPPORT, FAMILY AND CRISIS SERVICES. OVER 1400 CALLS REMAIN IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY TO NOVEMBER 2ND OF THIS YEAR. VERY RECENT DATA. SO BASICALLY INSTEAD OF 911 YOU ARE CALLING, BECAUSE YOU CANNOT PAY YOUR FPL. YOU CANNOT PAY YOUR RENT. YOUR MOTHER CANNOT AFFORD HER MEDICAL BILLS. WE CONNECT YOU TO A SERVICE THAT CAN PROVIDE YOU ASSISTANCE FOR YOU. AND THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. -- SO THE SLIDE YOU ARE SEEING HERE ARE THE SAME DATE RANGE I JUST MENTIONED. NOVEMBER 2ND TO NOVEMBER 2ND OF 2025 IS AT THE TOP OF REQUEST CATEGORIES. HOUSING AND SHELTER IS NUMBER ONE. 43%. WHICH I AM SURE IS NOT A SURPRISE TO YOU GUYS. UTILITY IS NUMBER TWO. TRANSPORTATION NUMBER THREE. YOU CAN READ THE RISK. HOUSING AND SHELTER I BROKE OUT TO THE PURPOSE OF THE HOUSING AND SHELTER CALLS ON THE RIGHT TABLE RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS 57% OF THOSE 43% OF CALLS. SO, THAT MAKES UP 25% OF OVERALL CALLS. SO, AGAIN, THIS DATA GIVES YOU ALL LEADERSHIP IN THE COUNTY A REAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS KEEPING PEOPLE UP AT NIGHT. WHAT ARE THE MAIN STRESSORS ON HAVING A HAPPY FAMILY? RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS DEFINITELY THE TOP ONE. FOR EXAMPLE THOSE CALLS THAT COME IN WE DIRECT THEM TO CATHOLIC CHARITIES AS WELL AS ST. JOHN'S COUNTY SOCIAL SERVICES AND UNITED WAY. WE HAVE A FUND THAT PAYS PEOPLE'S RENT ONCE WE UNDERSTAND THEY ARE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE, AND THEIR NEEDS ARE REAL. SO, AGAIN, THE DATA. YOU CAN BREAKDOWN THE NEEDS BY ZIP CODE. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS SURPRISING TO YOU ALL, BUT HERE IS A HIGH INTERMEDIATE AND LOW NO REQUEST-- SPIKE IN THREE-TIER -- SAME TIMEFRAME. THERE IS THE URL RIGHT THERE. I HIGHLY 
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RECOMMEND RUNNING DIFFERENT REPORTS, SO YOU GET A REAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENCY, AND THE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY STRESSING THEM OUT ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, BECAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE DO. WE TRY TO BE ON THE FRONT LINES TO MATCH RESOURCES WITH OUR COMMUNITY IN ST. JOHNS 
          [7.	Dial 2-1-1 Presentation Item. Carl Cricco, President & Chief Executive Officer of United Way SJC, will present information to the Board of County Commissioners regarding "Ride United Transportation Access" for residents of St. Johns County.]
COUNTY, AND PUTNAM. I WILL STEP ASIDE AND LET KARETA TALK MORE 
          UNTO 11. >> THANK YOU, CARL. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING ALL OF YOU A FEW MONTHS AGO. VERY HONORED TO BE HERE , CHAIR , AND ALL OF YOU AGAIN, THANK YOU. I WANT TO JUST START BY MENTIONING I APPRECIATE THE VETERAN 'S PRESENTATION. I WANT TO GIVE A PLUG FOR VETERAN SPOUSES, WHICH I AM ONE. I DID NOT COME UP , BECAUSE I'M NOT A VETERAN, BUT I AM A VETERAN'S SPOUSE. THAT COMMUNITY ALSO SUPPORTS VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES AS WELL. I KNOW ALL TOO WELL AS A SPOUSE THE IMPORTANT OF THAT. I WANT TO SHARE THE VETERAN SUPPORT. WE ARE AS CARL MENTIONED THE FRONT LINES. OUR TEAMS ANSWERING CALLS EVERY DAY, THESE ARE LIVE INDIVIDUALS. IT'S NOT A.I. IT IS ACTUALLY A LIVE PERSON, ALTHOUGH I LOVE A.I., BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST NEED A PERSON TO DIRECT THEM. SO, IT IS A REAL PERSON WHO LIVES IN THIS COMMUNITY UM-- WORKING IN THIS COMMUNITY, EARNING A LIVING IN THIS COMMUNITY. SO, ONE OTHER REALLY IMPORTANT UM-- NEED IS TRANSPORTATION. IT IS NO SURPRISE TO YOU RIDE UNITED WAS LAUNCHED MANY YEARS AGO . IT WAS LAUNCHED AT OUR NATIONAL PARTNERSHIP , AND THE PURPOSE OF THE PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE WITH LYFT. THE PURPOSE WAS TO REALLY PROVIDE THAT GAP AND FILL THAT GAP FOR INDIVIDUALS, WHO NEED TO GET TO THOSE ESSENTIAL NEEDS. 
          UM-- NEED TO GET TO WORK. OR TO A NONEMERGENCY APPOINTMENT. AND RIGHT NOW WHICH WE JUST HEARD A LOT TALKING ABOUT TODAY THE IMPORTANCE OF FOOD INSECURITY. IT ALSO PROVIDES RIDES TO FOOD PANTRIES AND SHELTERS. THE FOCUS IS ON THOSE ESSENTIAL NEEDS. 
          WHEN YOU CANNOT GET A RIDE TO HER BOYFRIEND'S HOUSE, IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE PERSONAL, BUT IT IS SPECIFIC TO A RIDE FOR CONVENIENCE TO ESSENTIAL NEEDS TO SUPPORT SERVICES. WHAT I WILL SAY IS HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR ME I HAVE FISCAL YEAR DATA. 
          OUR FISCAL YEAR IS FROM JULY 1ST THROUGH JUNE 30TH. AND HERE AT ST. JOHNS COUNTY FISCAL YEAR THERE ARE 73 RIDES PROVIDED ALREADY SO FAR THIS FISCAL YEAR STARTING IN JULY. WE HAD 50. SO, YOU ARE ALREADY ON-PACE TO EXCEED THE NUMBER IN THE COUNTY. 
          TRANSPORTATION TO WORK OR TO FOOD PANTRIES. I WILL MENTION IN RELATING TO THE TRANSPORTATION GAP ONE REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE TO THAT IS MANY OF THOSE ARE SENIORS. A LOT OF THE DATA YOU SEE HER, MANY ARE OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS IN NEED. AND JUST WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO RUN THIS OPERATION? UM-- THANKFULLY INCLUDING THE RIDE UNITED PROGRAM WE ARE PARTNERED WITH BOTH BAPTISTS AND MAYO UNDER OUR UMBRELLA. THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDING COMES FROM TO PROVIDE THOSE RIDES . MY ROLE IS TO GET OUT THERE AND TRY TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING, PRIVATE DOLLARS. THE MORE WE HAVE, THE MORE SUPPORT WE CAN PROVIDE. THE COST OF THE OPERATION AND FOR NORTHEAST FLORIDA IS ABOUT $1.1 MILLION. REALLY LESS THAN 4% OF THAT GOES TO ADMINISTRATION. AND WHEN WE SAY ADMINISTRATION WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RENT, UTILITIES. VERY LITTLE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST. THE MAJORITY OF THAT GOES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE STAFFED. THOSE REAL PEOPLE ANSWERING THE CALLS 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. HERE IN OUR REGION WE GET SUPPORT FROM THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE. WE ALSO GET SOME STATE FUNDING. AND THE MAJORITY OF THOSE DOLLARS ARE COVERED BY ALL OF OUR OPERATING BUDGETS. 
          BOTH ST. JOHN'S PUTNAM AND OF COURSE NORTHEAST FLORIDA, AS WELL. AND, THAT IS WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY. AND WE ARE HERE, 
          AND WE WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> IT DOES NOT LOOK ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WILL MAKE A COMMENT. YESTERDAY I GOT A PHONE 
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CALL. OVER THE WEEKEND I HAD A PHONE CALL WITH SOMEONE HAVING A HARD TIME TO PAY THEIR RENT, AND I COMPLETELY FORGOT 211. SO, NOW 
          I WILL NOT FORGET. >> OR YOU CAN SEND THEM DIRECTLY 
          [8.	St. Johns County Park Foundation Contract Agreement and Funding Request. The Parks and Recreation Department is seeking approval of an updated contract agreement and continued funding between St. Johns County and the St. Johns County Parks Foundation. The St. Johns County Parks Foundation initially entered into an agreement with the St. Johns County Board of County Commissioners in FY22 to provide funding support for initiatives in partnership with the St. Johns County Parks and Recreation Department. The St. Johns County Parks Foundation requests a continuation of financial support in the amount of $120,000 as the nonprofit organization continues to pursue initiatives and opportunities that align with its goals and objectives to enhance and expand recreational opportunities within St. Johns County. The Parks and Recreation Department supports the St. Johns County Parks Foundation's contract agreement and request for continued funding, which has been included in the adopted FY26 budget.]
          TO UNITED WAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> AGENDA ITEM 8. 
          >> RYAN KANE, DIRECTOR PARKS AND RECREATION JUST HERE TO INTRODUCE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY PARKS FOUNDATION, GREAT PARTNERSHIP WE'VE HAD . WE'VE SEEN THE FOUNDATION TAKE OFF DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, SO SHE WILL PRESENT THE FOUNDATION TO YOU. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANKS, RYAN. AS RYAN MENIONED YES I HAVE A YEAR. I DIDN'T QUIT AFTER THAT LAST FIRST WEEK WHEN I PRESENTED HERE , ALMOST JUST OVER A YEAR AGO. SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I THINK HOW DO I GET THIS POWER POINT GOING? OKAY. WELL, THERE WE ARE. SO, WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN A YEAR. WE HAVE BASICALLY RESTRUCTURED OUR ETERNAL AND EXTERNAL ORGANIZATION. OUR MISSION NOW IS TO ENHANCE ACCESS TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION'S FACILITIES AND PROGRAMS FOR ALL OUR RESIDENTS. WE ARE INVESTING IN PARKS AND PEOPLE AND OF COURSE PARTNERSHIPS. SO, I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THESE PARTNERSHIPS, BECAUSE THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. SO, IN THIS YEAR, WE HAVE HAD SO MANY PARTNERS, COMMUNITY PARTNERS, WHETHER THEY ARE BUSINESSES, SMALL BUSINESSES, NATIONAL BUSINESSES UM-- FAMILIES, ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO OUR MISSION , AND THAT PRIVATE SUPPORT REALLY HAS ENHANCED THE PUBLIC SUPPORT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN THE FOUNDATION. AND IT REALLY TURNS OUT TO BE JUST MORE IMPACT. SO YOUR INVESTMENT HAS REALLY HELPED OUT OUR ORGANIZATION THIS YEAR, AND JUST IN GENERAL, AND THE WHOLE COURSE OF THE FOUNDATION TO REALLY START TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND REALLY HAVE THAT IMPACT, AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IT HELPS AMPLIFY AND ATTRACT EVEN MORE SPONSORS, AND EVEN MORE PEOPLE TO GIVE BACK TO THEIR COMMUNITY. SO IT'S WHAT YOUR SUPPORT ENABLES US TO DO. AND I BROUGHT PROCEEDS. WE HAVE ABOUT 1 MILLION BACK TO RECREATION, AND THAT INCLUDES OF COURSE GREENBRIER LAND PROPERTY FOR EXAMPLE THE HOUSE AND SMALLER PROJECTS AS WELL. 
          WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE RIDE HOUSE THAT IS A COMMUNITY ASSET ON A PARK UM-- FOR A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY IN THE WEST AUGUSTINE AREA. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE WATER BOTTLE FILL STATION, THAT WASN'T RESIDENTS JUST THIRSTY, WANTING TO COME AND ASK FOR ANYTHING . THEY ACTUALLY WERE, LIKE, HOW CAN WE DO THIS ? SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT REALLY THE FOUNDATION DOES AND INSPIRE. 
          IT INSPIRES PEOPLE TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COUNTY, TO COLLABORATE THROUGH US, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE IMPACT. AND WE CAN GIVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITIES. SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE BEEN VERY PROUD OF IS, WE HAVE EXPANDED OUR INDIVIDUAL DONOR NETWORK. WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS. AND NOW WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE COMING IN WITH SMALL AMOUNTS, OR MAYBE LARGE AMOUNTS, BUT THEY ARE GETTING -- GIVING TOWARDS OUR MISSION, AND THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT, BECAUSE IT'S HELPING US TO ALSO REALLY INSPIRE RESIDENTS TO LEAD INITIATIVES. 
          AND, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I AM UM-- VERY EXCITED TO INTRODUCE TO YOU GUYS. BECAUSE, THIS IS, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE FOUNDATION REPRESENTS, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BRIDGING THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE DOLLARS. SO, THROUGH THE FOUNDATION, WE ARE ABLE TO BE THE DIRECT LINE TO OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. THOSE RESIDENTS COME TO US, AND WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE. WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE THIS BETTER? TO ENHANCE OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, WHETHER IT'S A FACILITY, WHETHER IT'S A PARK. WHETHER IT'S MAYBE A BENCH OR SIMPLE AMENITY, SO WE CAN DO THAT AND BECOME THEIR FISCAL 
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SPONSOR FOR THESE PROJECTS. THIS IS A BRAND-NEW CONCEPT IN ST. 
          JOHNS COUNTY WE ARE DOING THROUGH THE FOUNDATION. AND, IT'S REALLY STARTING TO GET SOME TRACTION, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING. SO, WE ARE ALSO ABLE TO DO PROJECTS A LITTLE BIT FASTER THAN THE COUNTY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT ALL RESIDENTS LIKE TO HEAR, BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, OUR BIRD ISLAND PEARLY GROUND-- PLAYGROUND, SHE WANTS HER DAUGHTER TO PLAY ON THAT PLAYGROUND AND NOT WAIT FOR THAT 20 YEAR CYCLE TO COME IN. I THINK AT THAT TIME SHE MIGHT BE 13 OR 15. SO, YEAH, WE ARE ABLE TO EXPEDITE THE SERVICES, WHICH IS AWESOME. AND OF COURSE, WITH ALL OF THIS WONDERFUL STUFF, WITH ALL THE RECEIPTS, WITH ALL WE ARE DOING, WE HAVE BEEN BUILDING, INTERNALLY, OUR ORGANIZATION, THROUGH OUR BOARD MEMBERS, AND ALSO ADMINISTRATE OF LEE THROUGH OUR BYLAWS, AND JUST RESTRUCTURING ENTIRE ORGANIZATIONS WHICH HAS BEEN AMAZING TO DO IN THIS YEAR. SO I AM SUPER EXCITED ABOUT ALL THE MOMENTUM THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND ALSO FROM OUR NATIONAL PARTNERS. WE WERE RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY AN EMERGING STAR, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I DO NOT TAKE LIGHTLY, BECAUSE THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF RECOGNITION THAT REALLY STAIR STEPS US OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND SHOWCASES WHAT WE ARE DOING AND BRINGING BACK HERE TO REALLY EVERYONE HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. SO, THIS IS KIND OF OUR LOOKING AHEAD. I WOULD LIKE TO DIVERSIFY OUR REVENUE STREAMS AND BECOME A SUSTAINABLE ORGANIZATION. AND, I WANT TO SEE A FUTURE IN PARK ENDOWMENTS AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AS WE MOVE DOWN IN THE FUTURE YEARS. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE ST. 
          JOHN'S WE APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT AS WELL WHICH FEELS LIKE IT IS VERY NEW, BUT WE HAVE BEEN AROUND. SO, THANK 
          YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER 
          WHITEHURST? >> THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ENVISIONED WHEN WE HAD A CHANCE TO STEP UP THE FOUNDATION. IT WAS AN INVESTMENT WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND WE EXPECTED A RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT. I KNOW IT DIDN'T EXACTLY TAKE OFF RIGHT AWAY. BUT, YOU HAVE BEEN THE DIRECTOR OF THIS FOUNDATION FOR 
          HOW LONG NOW? >> A YEAR. 
          >> EXACTLY A YEAR. WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN A YEAR IS INCREDIBLE, AND I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS, AND THE WAY YOU STRUCTURED THINGS AND ORGANIZED IT. AND GOT IT MOVING IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION QUICKLY. WHAT A GREAT LIST OF PRIVATE SECTOR SUPPORTERS THAT ARE NOW CONTRIBUTING TO WHAT WILL BE PUBLIC ASSETS FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE HAVE SEEN RESULTS, AND THE RESULTS COMING ARE EVEN MORE IMPRESSIVE. I KNOW YOU ARE WORKING A LOT ON THAT. I LIKE PRIVATE FUNDS RAISED EQUALS PUBLIC PROJECTS COMPLETED . JOB WELL DONE. THIS IS WHAT WE ENVISIONED, BUT IT WAS-- THE EARLY DAYS -- YOU ARE TO BE 
          COMMENDED FOR YOUR EFFORTS. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> I DO WANT TO MENTION THE FIRST COMMUNITY BIRD PARK GROUP IS HER FIRST DELVING INTO THE COMMUNITY TAKING THAT CONTROL AND ARE STAYING IN THERE WITH CHECKS AND ARE EXCITED. THEY ARE EXCITED TO BE PART OF IT, AND MENTIONED MAYBE THE NAMING 
          HOPEFULLY. >> I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THOSE BUSINESSES ORGANIZATIONS, ALL OF THAT, THEY HAVE IMPRESSIVELY -- I FELT LIKE I WAS SELLING AIR HALF THE TIME. BUT, I DO THINK PEOPLE REALLY LIKE PARKS AND RECREATION. I INKED THE JOB THE COUNTY IS DOING IS AMAZING. THEY DO WANT TO JUMP ON BOARD. I THINK WITH NAMING RIDES AND BEING ABLE TO OFFER AMENITIES AND SPONSORSHIPS , THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE ESPECIALLY FOR SOMETHING LIKE BIRD ISLAND. WE WOULD EXPLORE THAT WITH THE COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, SO THIS WOULDN'T JUST BE ME SELLING GOD KNOWS WHAT. SO, THAT'S NOT HOW THAT WOULD WORK. WE WOULD DEFINITELY HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE AND WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO SEE WHAT'S 
          FEASIBLE. >> I LOVE THE LOGO. SHOULD WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ? COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR TAKING THIS ON. 
          THIS WAS A BIT OF A HEAVY LOAD TONIGHT. I KNOW THE SPORT AND COMMUNITY, I HOPE THEY KNOW HOW AMAZING YOU ARE, AND HOW LUCKY WE ARE TO HAVE YOU IN THIS POSITION. IT APPEARS TO BE AN INCREDIBLY STRONG BOARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP 
          >> WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 8. SEEING NONE. WE WILL 
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          CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2025--- 438 APPROVING THE CONTRACT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ST. 
          JOHNS COUNTY AND THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY PARKS FOUNDATION INC., AND AUTHORIZE THE CONTINUATION OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT IN THE AMOUNT OF $120,000 AS INCLUDED IN THE ADOPTED FISCAL YEAR 2026 
          BUDGET. >> SECOND. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. 
          [9.	Second Reading - Agricultural Advisory Committee Ordinance. During the November 19, 2024, BCC Meeting, the Board directed staff to explore the establishment of an advisory committee of farmers regarding active agriculture lands in St. Johns County. Attached for the Board's review and consideration is a draft ordinance establishing a seven-member agriculture advisory committee. The first reading was heard at the September 2, 2025, Regular BCC Meeting.]
UNANIMOUSLY, 5-0. THANK YOU. CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. ALL RIGHT , AGENDA ITEM 9 . IS PRISSY HERE? IS SHE WEARING GREEN TODAY? 
          >> HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. UM-- KAYLEE, WOULD 
          YOU LIKE TO KICK US OFF? >> WE ARE HERE FOR THE SECOND READING OF THE AGRICULTURAL ADVISORY ORDINANCE. WE CAME AT THE SUGGESTION OF COMMISSIONER ARNOLD ON THE BOARD. WE CAME BACK WITH A FRUSTRATING TO ESTABLISH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT SETS FORTH THE NUMBERS OF QUALIFICATIONS AND DUTIES, AND 
          RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE BOARD. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. SO, WE GAVE THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE, SO I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH IT QUICKLY AGAIN IN CASE YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONTEXT. 
          WE HAD ONE SLIDE THAT WE ADDED ONE AND ONE THAT WE EDITED. BUT, A QUICK REVIEW OF WHY WE ARE HERE, BECAUSE YOU ASKED US TO BE. BUT, ALSO A YEAR AGO, CHRISTINE WILSON, WHO SPOKE UP EARLIER TODAY, SHE SENT OUT A REQUEST TO FARMERS IN HER COMMUNITY, HER NEIGHBORS, TO COME AND CHAT ABOUT DEVELOPMENT ENCROACHING THE RURAL AREAS, AND THAT REQUEST GOT FORWARDED TO ME, AND I AM VERY THANKFUL TO BE ONE OF THE FOLKS THAT HELPED INITIATE THIS. BUT, COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, YOU MADE THIS HAPPEN, SO THANK YOU. UM-- BUT, WE ARE HERE TODAY FOR THE FINAL READING, AND WE ARE HERE TO REPRESENT THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY. SO WE HAVE THIS FANTASTIC MAP THAT GIS TEAM MADE UP FOR US. IT'S ALSO A NICE STANDUP PORTABLE BANNER, SO YOU CAN TAKE THE SHOW ON THE ROAD. OUR ECONOMIC IMPACTS, SO OUR STATISTICS HERE WERE CITED FROM THE 2022 USDA CENSUS OF AGRICULTURE WHICH COMES OUT EVERY FIVE YEARS. WE HAVE A VERY IMPRESSIVE RANKING, SO WE ARE IN THE TOP 10 COUNTIES, NOT JUST FOR OUR CASH RECEIPTS, BUT ALSO FOR OUR ACREAGE. THE PURPOSE OF THIS ORDINANCE IS TO ESTABLISH AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO HELP GUIDE YOU , HELP GUIDE MYSELF, SO AS WE ARE MAKING LAND-USE PLANS, REGULATIONS AND POLICIES, THEIR INPUT IS GIVEN, SO WE CAN MAKE EFFICIENT DECISIONS TOGETHER. THIS STRUCTURE WILL CONSIST OF SEVEN MEMBERS. ALL MUST BE REGISTERED TO VOTE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. THEIR PROPERTY ALSO HAS TO HAVE A GREEN BELT CERTIFICATION, SO THE MAP I SHOWED YOU EARLIER, SO THOSE ARE THE PARCELS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PRAISED AS BONA FIDE AGRICULTURE. TERMS SHALL BE FOR THREE YEARS. HOWEVER AS THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS WILL BE ASKED TO STAY FOR ANOTHER TERM SO WE CAN HAVE A STAGGERING ROTATION OVER TIME. THE COMMITTEE WILL ELECT ITS OWN CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, GOVERNED BY BOCC AND SUPPORT STAFF, WHICH IS MYSELF. WE ARE TRYING TO ENSURE WHEN WE CREATE THIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT IT CONSISTS OF MEMBERS THAT ARE TRULY KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THIS AREA. SO THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO KNOW OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD TO DO THIS WORK DAY AFTER DAY, YOU CAN RELY ON THEM FOR USEFUL , ACCURATE INFORMATION. SO, THAT IS WHY WE ARE ASKING THAT THEY HAVE OWNED OR OPERATED A FARM WITHIN NORTHEAST FLORIDA FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS. AS EAGER AND OPTIMISTIC AND HOPEFUL AS I AM FOR PEOPLE TO GET INTO FORMING FOR THE SAKE OF THIS COMMITTEE IT WILL BE MORE USEFUL YOU WOULD HAVE PEOPLE WITH EXPERIENCE. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE FIVE YEARS. THEY NEED TO BE RELIANT ON THE PRODUCTION OF AGRICULTURAL GOODS, FOR THE MAJORITY OF THEIR INOME, AND NO MORE THAN TWO COMMITTEE MEMBERS WILL REPRESENT THE SAME CROP COMMODITY. AND, THAT'S BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE AN ASSOCIATION THAT'S SPECIFIC TO ONE COMMODITY, SUCH AS POTATOES. WE ARE TRYING TO DIVERSIFY THIS GROUP, SO THAT MULTIPLE CROPS ARE REPRESENTED, SO THAT WE HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS TO GO BY. WE EXPECT THEM TO HAVE EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEDGE IN FARM EQUIPMENT, OPERATIONS, AND MAINTENANCE. CROP PRODUCTIONS AND ROTATIONS . PEST MANAGEMENT. 
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AGRICULTURAL POLICIES, WATERSHEDS, AND FLOOD ZONES, WHICH IS VERY COMMON KNOWLEDGE IF YOU ARE A FARMER. THEIR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ON THIS COMMITTEE WILL BE TO SUPPORT DIVERSIFICATION, BONA FIDE FARMS, INCLUDING AGRI-TOURISM , WHICH IS GOING IN HIS COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE EXCITEMENT. IT HELPS US SPREAD OUR TOURISM TO HOPEFULLY PULL AWAY FROM DOWNTOWN THE PEACHES AND SPREAD THE LOVE AROUND. SO, WE ARE LOOKING TO PROVIDE INPUT ON AGRICULTURAL GRANTS AND PROGRAMS. IF WE ARE FUNDING SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO AGRICULTURE WHETHER IT BE EDUCATION, RESEARCH, YOU NAME IT, THEY CAN COME IN AND LET US KNOW, DOES THIS MAKE SENSE? I WILL ALSO DISCUSS THE COMPETENCE OF PLAN AND HOW THAT IMPACTS AGRICULTURAL LANDS . WE WILL ALSO DISCUSS POLICIES SUCH AS THE FLORIDA RIGHT TO FARM ACT, LANDOWNING RIGHTS, SENATE BILL 712 WHICH TO DATE HOW MUCH NUTRIENTS A FARMER CAN APPL DEPENDING UPON THE CROP. WE WILL ALSO BE ADDRESSING AGRICULTURAL PRESERVATION THROUGH COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS. SO, ADVISING ON INFRASTRUCTURE, TRANSPORTATION NEEDS. WE ALREADY HAVE A PLAN IN MOTION RIGHT NOW WITH OUR AGRICULTURAL DEPUTIES. WE ARE ASSESSING THE NUMBER OF SIGNAGE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY FOR AG EQUIPMENT CROSSING FOR EXAMPLE. WE SO FAR HAVE COUNTED FIVE IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY. SO THERE IS ONE THING WE CAN WORK ON RIGHT THERE. PROVIDING INPUT FOR SUPPORTING LOCAL FOOD SYSTEMS IN SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITIES FACING FOOD INSECURITY. S.N.A.P. 
          BENEFITS . THAT SOMETHING WITH THE SCRIPT WE CAN KNOW WHAT FIELDS ARE AVAILABLE SO WE CAN HELP THE PUBLIC, AND OUR RESIDENTS WHO NEED FOOD ASSISTANCE. THIS WILL ALSO INCLUDE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE THROUGH OUTREACH AND ASSISTANCE, SO TEACHING AND ENLIGHTENING US ON SEEPAGE IRRIGATION, DRAINAGE, AND WHAT A RAVENS SYSTEM IS ON A GPS DRIVEN TRACTOR. THIS WILL STRENGTHEN AGRICULTURE AND INCORPORATE ST. JOHN'S, SO SUSTAINING OUR VIABILITY , PRESERVING OUR WORKING LANDS, AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE STAKEHOLDERS FOR THESE DISCUSSIONS. ONE EDIT I HAVE MADE AFTER HAVING SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER JOSEPH HAD A GREAT IDEA TO ROTATE THE LOCATIONS. SO, I THINK IT'S COMMON FOR PEOPLE TO ASSUME HASTINGS IS THE ONLY PART OF OUR COUNTY THAT HAS AGRICULTURE, BUT OUR FARMS RANGE FROM HASTINGS TO ELKTON, TO SAINT AUGUSTINE. SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO ROTATE LOCATIONS, SO DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU FARM IN THE COUNTY EVERYONE HAS A FAIR TRAVEL TIME TO GET THERE. AND, WE WILL ALSO SEE IF WE CAN HOST THESE MEETINGS ON PRIVATE FARMS, SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE ARE WORKING WITH. HOPEFULLY IF ALL GOES ACCORDING TO PLAN, AND WE PASS THIS ORDINANCE AND CAN START GETTING THE APPLICATION PROCESS ROLLING, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD MEET IN DECEMBER AND START THAT QUARTERLY ROTATION. BUT, THERE COULD BE SPECIAL CASES IF YOU NEED TO MEET. ONE FACT FINDING MISSION WE WENT ON, WE WENT ON THE HUNT TO FIND OTHER AGRICULTURAL ORDINANCES THAT EXIST. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THEM IN FLORIDA COUNTIES. HERE ARE THE FOUR WE COULD IDENTIFY BASED OFF THE USER-FRIENDLY COUNTY WEBSITES. THERE IS ALACHUA COUNTY. ORANGE COUNTY HAD AN ORDINANCE IN 1994, REVISED IN 2003 TO REFLECT THE CHANGES OF THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY IN THAT TIMEFRAME. AND THEN VOLUSIA COUNTY, THEY DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE BUT A INTER-BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP COMMITTEE THEY USE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON HOW THE COUNTY ON AGRICULTURAL CENTER OPERATES. PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE 
          ANY QUESTIONS. >> ATTORNEY WEST, YOU HAD A LOT TO SAY THERE. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. GREAT PRESENTATION. I LOVE YOU ALL PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. WE WANT OUR FARMERS TO HAVE A VOICE AND SAY-SO IN COUNTY ACTIVITIES THAT IMPACT THEM. MY WIFE GROWS MILKWEED, SO SHE CAN LET THE CATERPILLARS BLOSSOM INTO BUTTERFLIES. FROM TIME TO TIME SHE WILL GROW A TOMATO PLANT OR 
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SOME PEPPERS. SHE THINKS SHE IS A FARMER. DOES SHE QUALIFY, CAN SHE APPLY FOR THIS AGRICULTURAL ADVISORY BOARD 
          >> AS MUCH AS I LOVE HER SUPPORT OF POLLINATORS THAT DOES NOT MAKE YOU ELIGIBLE. HOWEVER, JUST AS A QUICK COMMENT, I HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE NON-FARMING COMMUNITY WHO REALLY WANTS TO BE PART OF THIS TEAM AND THIS MISSION, WHICH I LOVE VERY MUCH. BUT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH MANAGING AND OPERATING A FARM. IT'S A VERY UNIQUE EXPERIENCE. BUT, THERE ARE STILL GOING TO BE ENDLESS OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR COMMUNITY, FOR OUR FELLOW RESIDENTS WHO DON'T FORM TO HELP US. WE ARE ALREADY REACHING OUT TO FARMERS AND FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE TRANSPORT THESE GOODS TO AREAS OF FOOD INSECURITY? DO YOU WANT TO HELP WITH THIS MISSION? AND THEY ARE ALREADY FORMING TEAMS. THERE WILL STILL BE MANY OBJECTIVES WE NEED THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT AND HELP ASSISTANCE WITH. SO EVEN IF YOU DON'T FARM WE STILL NEED OUR HELP AND WE WILL HAVE A MISSION FOR YOU, I PROMISE. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> I WANT TO POINT OUT OUR ADVISORY MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. YOU WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, SO FIND OUT WHEN THOSE MEETINGS ARE. 
          >> EXACTLY. >> SPEAKING OF PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          >> PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 9? 
          >> THANK YOU-- ED -- TREMENDOUS WORK IT HAS POTENTIAL, BUT WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT AS I SAID AT THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS OF THE FEDERAL ADVISORY MANY -- COMMITTEE HAS A FAIRLY BALANCED MEMBERSHIP. CALLING YOUR ATTENTION TO 4C1, OWNED OR OPERATED WITHIN NORTHEAST FLORIDA. I WOULD HATE TO BE SEEN AS EXCLUDING FARMWORKERS . CALLING YOUR ATTENTION TO 4C2, HAVE EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEDGE ETC. . ARE WE EXCLUDING LIVESTOCK FARMERS? BEEF CATTLE? WHY? IT'S NOT RIGHT. AND THEN CALLING YOUR ATTENTION TO 4C3, BE RELIANT ON THE AGRICULTURAL GOODS FOR THEIR ANNUAL INCOME. THESE SECTIONS EACH OF WHICH IS DISAGGREGATED, IT COULD BE ANY ONE OF THE THREE. IT SAYS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE NARROW. IF SOMEBODY MOVES HERE, SAY FROM MICHIGAN, OR WYOMING, AND THEY ARE A PROFESSOR OF AGRICULTURE ECONOMICS, ARE WE GOING TO SAY THEY CAN'T BE A MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE? I AM SORRY? IT'S TOO NARROW. IT'S WAY TOO NARROW, AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR NARROWCASTING, MAYBE YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE INVOLVED. IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE DO SOMETIMES AND TRYING TO WHEN WE WRITE -- SPECIFICATIONS. DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE YOU ARE GOING TO EXCLUDE, ALL THE PEOPLE I JUST MENTIONED LIKE CATTLE FARMERS? WHY? WHY DOES A HALF TO BE AN AGRICULTURAL PRODUCT THAT GROWS IN THE GROUND? WHY CAN'T IT BE A CATTLE MAN OR WOMAN? AND WHY CAN'T IT BE AN AGRICULTURAL ECONOMIST? I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE REDRAFTED. AND IF YOU ADOPT IT TODAY I HOPE YOU COME BACK AND REVISIT THIS EVENTUALLY. AND CONSIDER SOMETHING OTHER THAN NARROWCASTING, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WELL IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS COMMITTEE, AND YOU MIGHT RUN UP SHORT IF IT'S SO NARROW YOU MIGHT HAVE TO RE-ADVERTISE. I WOULD HATE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB ON THIS, BUT IT SEEMS TO REFLECT WELL CERTAIN ATTITUDE FROM THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION AND COUNTY ATTORNEY. I WILL DESCRIBE THAT LATER. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. IT LOOKS LIKE POORLY LEGISLATED DRAFTING. NOT THE BEST. JIMMY CARTER WROTE IN HIS BOOK WHY NOT THE BEST ADMIRAL? THE ADMIRAL HE WORKED FOR, YEAH. HE ASKED JIMMY CARTER, WHEN YOU WERE AT THE NAVAL ACADEMY DID YOU ALWAYS DO 
          YOUR BEST? HE SAID NO. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          >> THE INTENT WAS FOR AGRICULTURE. AND I THINK TIM WILSON IN OUR AG DEPARTMENT DOES MORE CATTLE IN THE UF SO MAYBE YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT FOR A MINUTE . ONE MINUTE. 
          >> YES. OUR COUNTY AG CENTER DIRECTOR DOES HAVE A LIVESTOCK FOCUS. WE ALSO HAVE A SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY CATTLEMEN 
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ASSOCIATION, AND WE HAD ANYONE FROM THAT COMMUNITY REACHING OUT INTERESTED . WE ALSO INCLUDED HAY, SO IF THEY WANT TO REPRESENT AS THAT THEY ARE WELCOME TO, BUT THEY ARE NOT EXCLUDED, BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR OWN ASSOCIATION. 
          >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND CHRISTINE WILSON, PERCY FLETCHER, THIS IS A LABOR OF LOVE . WE HAVE BEEN INUNDATED WITH FARMERS WHO WANT TO BE ON THE FARMING COMMUNITY IT'S BEEN WILD BUT IT'S BEEN IMPRESSIVE. AS PERCY SAID THERE WILL BE A SPOT FOR EVERYBODY. MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 25 DASH ESTABLISHING ST. JOHNS COUNTY AGRICULTURE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS AN ADVISORY BODY TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. GO AHEAD AND VOTE. 5-0. 
          [10.	Consider appointments to the Library Advisory Board. Currently, there are (3) three vacancies on the Library Advisory Board due to the expired terms of Jessica Hayes Dist. 4 Rep., Michael B. Macnamara Dist. 2 Rep., and Eric Sarrett Dist. 3 Rep. A vacancy ad was placed and ran for (180) days. Please see attached for your review and consideration, a recommendation letter and (17) applications: Anthony Harp Dist. 1, Brent Feldman Dist. 1, Louis Greco Dist. 3, Juan Holbrook Dist. 3, Sara Upchurch Dist. 3, Linda Gerena Dist. 4, Donald Frost Dist. 4, Heather Cucci Dist. 4, Jessica Hayes Dist. 4, Christopher Pondish Dist. 4, Brittany Barski Dist. 5, Mollie Meikle Dist. 5, Nayana Sen Dist. 5, Anna Straughan Dist. 5, Susan Ankudavich Dist. 5, Sandra Paul Dist. 5, and Mary Jane Ballou Dist. 5.]
THANK YOU, EVERYONE. NUMBER 10 TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. 
          HI, SHELBY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. SHALL BE ROMERO, VACANCIES DUE TO RETIRING ON THE BOARD. WE RECEIVED SEVERAL APPLICATIONS. IF YOU COULD 
          PLEASE REVIEW AND CONSIDER. >> PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE. 
          >> WE WILL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10. SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          >> I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT JESSICA HAYES TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD AS AN AT-LARGE REPRESENTATIVE FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE NOVEMBER 4TH, 2029. A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, PLEASE VOTE. SHE PASSES, 5-0. A MOTION TO APPOINT MOLLY MICHAEL TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD AND LOU GRECO, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE SAME. AS AT-LARGE REPRESENTATIVE FOR FOUR YEAR TERM NOVEMBER 4TH, 2029. 
          >> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES, 5-0. IS THAT ALL RIGHT I PUT THOSE TWO 
          [Commissioners’ Reports]
TOGETHER? OKAY, SO NOW LOOKING FOR COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. 
          COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> I HAD NO REPORT TODAY, MA'AM. 
          >> MOTION ARNOLD? >> YES, THANK YOU. THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT MEETING CONSIDERING HOW MUCH WE HAD ON THE AGENDA. I WANT TO SAY I THINK IT'S BEEN ON EVERYBODY'S MINDS ABOUT THE FEDERAL SHUTDOWN, AND I KNOW ANDREA SENT OUT A MEMO TO DISCUSS SOME BRIDGE FUNDING, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ABOUT 10,000 PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR BENEFITS. AS OF TODAY IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE BACK AT SQUARE ONE. IT APPEARS WE MAY NOT BE GETTING PARTIAL FUNDING. I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT IS KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE. WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT REGARDLESS, I HAVE HAD MANY PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME FROM THE NONPROFIT SECTOR, FROM THE FAITH-BASED, ALL THE CHURCHES, THE YOUTH GROUPS, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE GUIDANCE COUNSELORS, AND SO I THINK I PUT IT OUT THERE THAT I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THESE STAKEHOLDERS TO HOST A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION WHERE WE ALL COME TOGETHER AND HAVE SOME SORT OF PANEL DISCUSSION ROUNDTABLE. I WOULD LOVE TO BRING IN SOME EXPERTS ON WHAT IT MEANS FOR US IN THE COMMUNITY AND OUR OPTIONS GOING FORWARD. IT DOESN'T END WITH S.N.A.P. . TAKING CARE OF THE PEOPLE WE WERE ELECTED TO REPRESENT. JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU TO MY BOARD. 
          >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR? >> GREAT, YES THANK YOU. JUST A COUPLE THINGS. I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW-UP WITH ATTORNEY COMMANDO REGARDING WHERE WE ARE AT REGARDING THE PUBLIC COMMENT AMENDMENT THAT WE ALL HAVE CONSENSUS ON AT THE LAST MEETING. I DID NOT KNOW WHERE WE WERE AT WITH THAT. 
          >> THANK YOU. IT WILL BE MORE THAN THE PUBLIC COMMENT AMENDMENT. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE AMENDED WITH BOARD RULES. AND IN LOOKING AT THE FACT WE WILL SEE A CHANGE OF CHAIR I ANTICIPATE WE WILL SEE SOME DIFFERENT GUIDANCE AS FAR AS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE WITH THOSE BOARD RULES. I ANTICIPATE 
          BRINGING THOSE BACK SOON. >> GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND I ALSO WANTED TO, I KNOW EARLIER THIS MORNING THERE WAS UM-- A BOARD MEMBER FROM VILLANO MAIN STREET , AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP REGARDING THAT THE WATER TAXI CONTRACT IS UP. AND, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND HOPEFULLY PUT ON A FUTURE AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM AT A FUTURE MEETING. IF EVERYONE 
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AGREES WITH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEN, LET'S SEE. 
          JUST, IN CLOSING, ALTHOUGH, I DID WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE. I LOVE SEEING THE POSTERS EVERYWHERE WITH THE QR CODE. 
          HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY HAS DOWNLOADED THEIR APP. THE COUNTY AND CITY DID HAVE A JOINT MEETING, AND I KNOW OUT OF THAT MEETING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP WAS FOR THIS APP TO WORK. IT WILL BE HOPEFULLY ONE OF A NUMBER OF CHANGES. FOR THAT TO WORK WE DO NEED INCREASED CELL PHONE COVERAGE SERVICE. I WAS ABLE TO FACILITATE A MEETING WITH THE MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS VERIZON. I AM EXCITED TO SHARE THEY WILL PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO BE BRINGING IN AND DEPLOYING TEMPORARY SUPPLEMENTARY ASSET. CLOSE TO $100,000 TO COVER THE WHOLE , THEY HAVE AGREED TO DO THAT AT NO CHARGE, SO THAT WAS A FANTASTIC MEETING. AND THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS NOT ONLY TO HAVE THIS BE TEMPORARY, BUT ULTIMATELY HAVE A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO THE SELF COVERAGE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. SO I AM 
          EXCITED TO SHARE TAT. AND THAT >> MADAM CHAIR, I AM SORRY, YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THE WATER TAXI AGREEMENT, BUT THERE WASN'T ANY DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION-- 
          >> AGENDA ITEM REGARDING THAT? AND WE ALL AGREED. 
          >> RIGHT, TO HAVE IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM, TO TAKE A LOOK-- 
          >> CONTINUE OR RENEW THE CONTRACT? 
          >> I WOULD LIKE THEM TO PRESENT US WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE. 
          BECAUSE ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY SHARED THIS MORNING, THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN RENEWING THE CONTRACT, BUT I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND COME FORWARD AND TELL US WHAT OUR 
          OPTIONS ARE. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER MURPHY? 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JUST A COUPLE THINGS. I WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE TRAIL . ESTABLISH THE PATH CLOSER TO THE ROAD, REDUCE THE WIDTH OF FIVE FEET WE ARE USING MATERIALS . I THINK WE STILL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO ON THAT. I HAVE A MEETING WITH THE COMMITTEE FOR NEXT STEPS WHEN IT COMES TO ADVERTISING AND GETTING A VOTE FROM THE COMMUNITY. SOME OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE CONSISTENCY ON WE WOULD LIKE TO HOST A PUBLIC VIEWING OF THE TRAIL DESIGN . I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE STAFF ON SITE TO ANSWER ANY COMMUNITY QUESTIONS. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO CONDUCT A SURVEY, ASKING THE RESIDENTS OF THE SOUTH UPPER NO VOTE ON IT. SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD AND FINDINGS TO BOCC FOR WHETHER THE PROJECTS-- PROJECT PROCEEDS OR NOT. 
          >> I AM NOT IN FAVOR, I AM SORRY. WE JUST WENT THROUGH-- IT DIVIDES THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD RATHER SEE YOU MAKE A DECISION AND COME BACK TO THE BOARD WITH THAT. I MEAN TO DO ANOTHER TOWN HALL, IT JUST GOT SO OUT OF HAND. THE COMMUNITY WAS FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER. UM-- IT JUST DISRUPTED THE THING. BUT THAT'S MY OPINION. I DON'T KNOW WITH -- WHAT THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS THINK. BUT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A VOTE ON WHETHER 
          TO DO THAT, THAT'S FINE. >> I AM CERTAINLY IN SUPPORT OF YOU HAVING THE TOWNHALL AND PUTTING A SURVEY OUT JUST TO THE COMMUNITY. I SUPPORT YOUR EFFORT TO GET MORE OBSERVATIONS AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. I WOULD VOTE IN SUPPORT OF THAT. 
          >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE IN SUPPORT OF IT. I DO KNOW THERE HAS BEEN TONS OF TOWN HALLS AND DISCUSSIONS, BUT I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A HUGE ADVOCATE FOR THIS PROJECT. I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT SPOT, I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT SPACE. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING -- PUBLIC SAFETY. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS BACK. 
          >> SO, WE NEED A MOTION. >> OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HOST A PUBLIC VIEW OF THE TRAIL DESIGN WITH STAFF ON SITE TO ANSWER COMMUNITY QUESTIONS. HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE REPORT THE FINDINGS BACK TO BOCC FOR DIRECTION ON WHETHER THE 
          PROJECT PROCEEDS. >> SECOND. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION, HOW ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES, 4-1. 
          >> I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU . THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK . 
          THIS IS A COMPROMISE BY THE RESIDENTS IS TO LOOK AT, I WOULD 
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LOVE TO PUT THIS TO BED AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, BUT I KNOW THERE NEEDS TO BE A PROCESS AND MAKING SURE EACH RESIDENTS-- RESIDENT GETS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THIS AND VOTE UP OR DOWN. IF IT'S A YES, GREAT, IF NO WE CAN USE THAT FOR PAUL WALDRON'S BOAT RAMP . THE TONYA COOK FOUNDATION FOR SUICIDE PREVENTION IS HAVING AN EVENT ON DECEMBER 6TH AT PARKER PARK. 
          THEY ASKED ME TO BRING FORWARD TO THE BOARD A POSSIBILITY OF WAIVING THE $450 FEE , BECAUSE THEY CAN WITH THAT MONEY, ACTUALLY SERVE ALMOST 5 DIFFERENT PEOPLE FOR SUICIDE PREVENTION SERVICES. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR CONSENSUS FOR THAT. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S ALL I 
          HAVE. >> I JUST WANT TO REALLY QUICK ADVERTISE FOR THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY DAY AT THE STATE CAPITOL ON FEBRUARY 5TH. WE'LL BE IN TALLAHASSEE TO SHOWCASE OUR CULTURE, CUISINE, COMMUNITY THAT MAKES OUR COUNTY SPECIAL. I HAVE HEARD EVERYTHING FROM TAKING A BEACH WITH SHARKS TEETH TO THE BEST BARBECUE AND LOTS OF ACTUAL GOLF PLAYING. OF COURSE ENTERTAINMENT. REMEMBER THE AMP IS IN SAINT AUGUSTINE. I BET THERE WILL BE SOME SURPRISES THERE. IT'S YOUR UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN FRONT OF STATE LAWMAKERS AND STAFF TO COMMUNICATE YOUR BRAND AND CONVEY YOUR NEEDS. EVERYONE IS INVITED. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET INVOLVED. IF YOU HAVE A PRODUCT AND SUPPORT THIS AS A SPONSOR OR PARTICIPATE FOR ATTENDEES TO JOIN. YOU ARE ALL INVITED, AND I GUESS PALM BEACH HAD A MEMORABLE DAY. AND, I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT. FOR DETAILS IT'S NOT HARD TO FORGET THE WEBSITE IS WWW.STJOHNSCOUNTYDAY. 
          COM . SINCE THIS IS MY LAST KIND OF CHAIR MEETING, WHICH I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING IN WORKING WITH EVERYBODY WHETHER YOU ARE HAPPY WITH ME OR NOT, I DO WANT TO CALL OUT, I WAS WALKING ON THE BEACH YESTERDAY. AND, THERE WERE TWO BEACH WORKERS NAMED GRADY AND ANTHONY. THEY ARE OUT THERE PICKING UP CLOTHING PEOPLE LEFT OVERNIGHT. THEY WERE DRIVING UP AND DOWN THE BEACH KEEPING IT CLEAN. I REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR WORK. ASHLEY OF PUBLIC WORKS, SHE WAS, LIKE, A HERO IN CALMING DOWN RESIDENT ABOUT OUR SAWGRASS GARBAGE PICKUP. OUR EMPLOYEES ARE NICE, 
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THEY ARE REGULAR HARD-WORKING PEOPLE, AND I AM JUST PROUD OF THEM. AND I LIKE TO CALL THEM OUT EVERY NOW AND THEN. 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I JUST HAVE ONE ISSUE. I THINK I SENT EVERYONE A MEMO LAST NIGHT RELATED TO OUR RECOMMENDATION TO RESPOND TO THE TEMPORARY FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, BECAUSE OF THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN AND SUSPENDED S.N.A.P. FOOD STAMP PROGRAM. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TWO FOLD. OUR UTILITY DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO SUSPEND A DISCONNECTION BECAUSE OF A NONPAYMENT. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT IF THE FAMILIES ARE EXPERIENCING HARDSHIP WITHOUT GETTING PAID AND NOT HAVING THEIR NORMAL PAYMENTS FROM THE SNAP PROGRAM, THEY MAY STRUGGLE IN BETWEEN UTILITY PAYMENT OR THE HOUSING INSURANCE OR CAR INSURANCE OR FOOD. SO, I THINK MAYBE IN A SMALL WAY WE CAN SUSPEND OUR DISCONNECTION PROGRAM, BECAUSE OF A NONPAYMENT, UNTIL NOVEMBER. 
          WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND REVISIT THIS. WE HAVE A MEETING EVERY TWO WEEKS. I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE TODAY. IF WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO GO FORWARD WITH THOSE MEASURES. SECONDARILY I THINK COMMISSIONER ARNOLD AND COMMISSIONER JOSEPH HAD MENTIONED EARLIER WE ALSO RECOMMEND UP TO $200,000 FROM THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE FUND TO REPLENISH OUR FOOD PANTRY. WE KNOW THAT AS WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ABILITY TO COMPLETELY REPLACE THESE PROGRAMS, THAT IS DONE BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT-- BUT, WE CAN FIND SMALL WAYS TO COLLABORATE WITH OUR NONPROFIT TO FIND A WAY TO REPLENISH THE FOOD PANTRY OF OUR COUNTIES AND NONPROFITS. SO, AT LEAST THERE IS SOME WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND GET THEIR FOOD. SO, THOSE ARE THE TWO ASKS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET DIRECTIONS FROM THE BOARD. 
          >> LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE CONSENSUS. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> SO , THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WAS $200,000. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU YOU HAVE A RULE IF IT'S GREATER THAN $5000 AND THE UNPUBLISHED AGENDA THAT THIS SHOULD GO ON AN AGENDA, BUT YOU CAN SUSPEND THAT RULE IF YOU 
          WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY. >> MOTION TO SUSPEND BOARD RULE. 
          >> 4.304. >> SECOND. 
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          >> SO, NOW A MOTION. WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. THE MOTION IS ON THE TABLE. PLEASE VOTE. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S SUSPENDED BY 0. NOW, A 
          MOTION. >> MOVE TO MAKE AVAILABLE AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $200,000 ON THE EMERGENCY RELIEF FUND TO , MISGENDERS, FILL IN THE BLANKS HERE, PLEASE. 
          >> TO REPLENISH THE FOOD BOUNDARY-- PANTRY 
          >> TO SUSPEND THE DISCONNECTION -- 
          >> DUE TO NONPAYMENT UNTIL THE END OF NOVEMBER. 
          >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION. PLEASE 
          VOTE. >> MOTION TO REINSTATE BOARD 
          RULE . >> REINSTATED. IT WAS ONLY FOR 
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          THE LIMITED PURPOSE. >> HERE-HERE. 
          >> ATTORNEYS? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. OVER THE PAST YEAR AND SITTING IN BRIEFINGS WITH YOU ON COMMISSION MEETINGS I REALLY WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING POSITIVE TO SAY ABOUT THE PEOPLE YOU COME INTO CONTACT WITH IN BETWEEN LAST MEETINGS. AS WE SAW THIS MORNING DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AGAIN TODAY, AND WE HAVE HEARD FOR MANY MONTHS THE INDIGNANT AND CONDESCENDING RANTINGS FROM DISBARRED ATTORNEY WHO TAKES SHOTS AT OUR LEGAL STAFF, AND IT'S REALLY ACROSS THE LINE. USUALLY I SIT HERE AND DON'T SAY ANYTHING. BUT IT CROSSED THE LINE WHEN WE CAME TO THE POINT WHERE THERE WAS AN INSINUATION OR INNUENDO THAT I SOMEHOW WAS PART OF, KNEW OF, OR CONDONED , THE ALTERED PHOTOGRAPHS THAT INVOLVED ANY OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS. SO, I KNOW YOU KNOW BECAUSE I HAVE TALKED TO YOU INDIVIDUAL THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT'S NOT TRUE. AND, MADAM CHAIR, LIKE YOU, I WANT TO COMMEND OUR LOOKS TAYLOR, KEELEY WEST, ALONG WITH ELIS FERGUSON, AND CARL RYAN DO A PHENOMENAL DUB RESEARCHING MAKING SURE YOUR GOALS ARE LEGALLY PERMISSIBLE AND TRYING TO FIND A PATH FORWARD FOR YOU. 
          SO, I WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THEM FOR THE HARD WORK AND EXCELLENT SERVICE THEY PROVIDE TO YOU. 
          THAT IS ALL, MADAM CHAIR. >>
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