[1. MINMOD 2025-12 The Vinings PUD Veterinary Office. Request for a Minor Modification to The Vinings Planned Unit Development (Ordinance 1997-14, as amended) to allow Veterinary Offices as a permitted use, specifically located at 2220 County Road 210 West.]

IN CASE ANYBODY IS HERE FOR THAT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY.

ON TO THE FIRST ITEM. ANY EX PARTE FROM AGENCY MEMBERS? MR. OLSON?

>> I WENT TO THE SITE ON OCTOBER 30TH, BUT HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO

ANYONE. >> MR. LABANOWSKI?

>> YES, I VISITED THE SITE AS

WELL. >> ANYONE ELSE? MR. WESTER?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BRAD WESTER, 1 INDEPENDENT DRIVE, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA.

I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.

THIS IS A MINOR MODIFICATION TO THE PUD FOR A VET USE.

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THE MINMOD IS FOR A MODIFIED USE.

VETERINARY OFFICE IS A USE CONSISTENT IN THE CODE.

THE REQUEST WILL COMPLY WITH THE LDC PROVISIONS FOR VET OFFICES AND ANIMAL HOSPITALS. THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE MEDICAL AND DENTAL OFFICE AND CLINICS, USES AND ÷÷PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS USES IN THE PUD.

HERE'S THE GENERAL LOCATION. YOU CAN SEE I-95, COUNTY ROAD 210. IT'S A MIXED USE PUD AND DOES HAVE RESIDENTIAL AS WELL. HERE'S THE BOUNDARY OF THE SHOPPING CENTER PORTION OF THE PUD IN RED.

HERE IS THE LIST OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE PUD.

I'VE GONE THROUGH AND HIGHLIGHTED THOSE SPECIFIC TO THIS REQUEST.

YOU SEE RETAIL OUTLETS, SPECIFICALLY SAYS PET SHOPS, BUT NOT ANIMAL CLINICS OR VETERINARIAN USE. UNDER THAT IS MEDICAL, DENTAL OFFICE CLINICS. THAT'S WHERE WE PUT IN THE VET USE PER THE COUNTY DEFINITION THAT ALLOWS A VET USE. HERE'S AN AERIAL PICTURE.

THIS IS A ROUGHLY YEAR OLD AERIAL PICTURE OF SHOPPING CENTER ITSELF IN CONNECTION WITH THE PUD.

WE HAVE THE SHOPPING CENTER, THE VININGS BEHIND IT, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS IN MITIGATION, THE SHELL GAS STATION, THE CVS AND SELF- STORAGE FACILITY. THIS SHOWS THE PARKING LAYOUT AS PART OF THE MVP. THIS IS THE RENDERED VERSION OF THAT SAME SHOPPING CENTER, THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE BLUE AREA IS THE VET OFFICE USE OUTLINED IN THAT AREA.

A LOT OF YOU MAY KNOW THIS ENTIRE AREA HERE, WHICH IS SHOWN IN THIS DIAGRAM AS ALDI.

THAT PREVIOUS WAS THE WIN DIXIE. THAT'S NO LONGER THERE.

ALDI IS DOING A TENANT FIT OUT FOR HALF THAT SPACE.

PER THE -- IF THIS IS APPROVED FOR THE VET USE.

THIS IS AN ELEVATION CONCEPT. IT'S NOT THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDING FOR ANY PERMITTING IN THE FUTURE.

IT'S A CONCEPT TO SHOW HOW THE ALDI USE AND ARISTA USE WOULD BE USED.

ALDI IS THE MAIN ANCHOR. IT TAKES THE GRAND PRESENCE IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER. ARISTA WILL FILL OUT THE SECOND LARGEST PORTION OF THAT SPACE.

YOU CAN SEE IT THERE. AGAIN, THIS IS A STORE FRONT ELEVATION CONCEPT OF HOW IT WILL LOOK. HERE'S A COUPLE OTHER EXAMPLES OF ATLANTA AND DALLAS ARISTA PET CARE FACILITIES.

IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE PUD AND WITH THE COUNTY'S DEFINITION OF OFFICE, BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL USES. THE REQUEST DOES NOT REDUCE PARKING, OPEN SPACE OR YARD AREAS. IT DOES N'T CHANGE THE HEIGHT.

THE REQUEST IS NOT RELOCATING ANY CATEGORY OF USE FROM A PARCEL OR PHASE AS THE PROFESSIONAL AND BUSINESS OFFICE USE IS IN KEEPING WITH A SIMILAR SERVICE INDUSTRY TYPE USES LIKE MEDICAL, DENTAL AND CLINICS FOUND IN THE PUD.

THE REQUEST DOES NOT INCREASE THE INTENSITY OF THE USE AS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE EXISTS PER THE CURRENT PUD. THE REQUEST WILL REPURPOSE THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL SPACE BETWEEN ALDI AND IF THIS WERE APPROVED THE ARISTA SPACE.

IT DOES NOT INCREASE TRAFFIC OR DECREASE LAND USE IN THE PUD.

THE REQUEST IS IN KEEPING WITH SIMILAR MEDICAL AND DENTAL CLINIC USES ALREADY ALLOWED.

THE VET OFFICE USE IS LOW INTENSITY USE.

THE REASON WHY I GO THROUGH THOSE ITEMS IS THE THRESHOLDS AND METRICS. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT CHANGING LAND USES, ACCESS POINTS, SQUARE FOOTAGE, ENTITLEMENTS AND THE LIKE. THE PET SHOP'S DESCRIPTION IS HIGHLIGHTED AND WILL REMAIN FOR RETAIL USES.

THE PET SHOP CAN'T INCLUDE A KENNEL OR PET USE.

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THAT'S A RETAIL USE. WHEN THE PUD WAS IMPLEMENTED IT HAS THAT PROVISION IN THERE SPECIFICALLY.

HOWEVER, THE VET OFFICE IS TO BE ALLOWED AS A PRIMARY USE UNDER THE BUSINESS OFFICE PROFESSIONAL CATEGORY AND WILL BE IN ITS OWN ENCLOSED SPACE AND NO CLOSER THAN 50 FEET FROM ANY PROPERTY ZONE OR USED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES, IE THE HOA PROPERTY. OVERNIGHT STAY OF THE ANIMALS WILL BE UNDER THE CARE OF A VETERINARIAN. THAT'S A SPECIFIC PROVISION FOR THIS TYPE OF USE. ONE OF THE KEY METRICS IS YOU HAVE TO BE 50 FEET AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL. HERE'S THE ARISTA SPACE.

HERE IS THE DISTANCES FROM THE -- THAT HIGHLIGHTED AREA IS THE HOA PROPERTY.

THIS IS THE RETENTION PONDS IN THE HOA PROPERTY.

THAT BECOMES THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL USE OR ZONED USE.

THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY THIS 50- FOOT STANDOFF IS FROM THAT AREA OF THE HOA PROPERTY DOWN TO OUR INTERIOR SPACE. THEN, YOU CAN SEE THE VET ÷÷INTERIOR SPACE MEETS THE 50 FOOT DISTANCE STANDARD AND IS SEPARATED BY AN ENCLOSED AREA THAT WILL BE OCCUPIED BY ALDI. THAT'S A LOADING DOCK.

BY DEFAULT THE INTERIOR SPATS, THE DEMISE SPACE TAKEN OVER BY THIS SPECIFIC USE IS 50 FEET AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AND SHARES -- THERE'S TWO LOADING DOCK SPACES.

IF YOU DROVE THE SITE AND WENT AROUND THE BACK, YOU WOULD SEE. THE FURTHEST NORTH LOADING DOCK WILL STAY WITH ALDI AND THE SECOND IS FOR ANY USE THAT GOES THERE, IN THIS CASE THE ARISTA VET CARE. THIS IS THE DEFINITION FROM THE CODE ITSELF. YOU CAN SEE VETERINARIAN USES ARE ALLOWED. THEY GO AND FIT RIGHT WITH DENTISTS, PSYCHOLOGISTS PSYCHIATRISTS, SERVICE INDUSTRY USES WHICH ARE ALREADY IN THE SHOPPING CENTER.

THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY STAFF ASKED ME TO PUT TOGETHER A SLIP SHEET THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS PUD FORWARD. IT'S JUST DESCRIBING AND CLARIFYING THOSE USES IN CONTEXT TO OUR REQUEST. THE PET SHOPS UNDER RETAIL SPECIFICALLY WILL BE ALLOWED, BUT THEY CAN'T INCLUDE A KENNEL OR VET.

VET USE IS ALLOWED AS PART OF THE MEDICAL, DENTAL OFFICE AND CLINIC USE.

WE DESCRIBE THE SPECIFICS FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

ANY OVERNIGHT STAY BY A PET HAS ÷÷TO BE NO MORE THAN 20% OF THAT SPACE. THAT'S WITH A HAT WE PUT IN THERE. STAFF FELT THAT WAS SUFFICIENT AS PART OF THIS AMENDED REQUEST FOR THE MINMOD. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. I HAVE EXECUTIVES HERE FROM ARISTA THAT FLEW IN FROM DALLAS. WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE REAL ESTATE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND THE VET IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS REQUEST.

>> THANK YOU, BRAD. MR. LABANOWSKI?

>> THANKS. YOU ANSWERED A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE THAT.

THERE WILL BE NO ENCLOSURE EXTERIOR WHATSOEVER?

>> NO. THE PET RELIEF AREA IS ENCLOSED AS WELL. IT'S A SPECIALIZED VET AND 24/7 E.R. IF THERE'S A CRITICAL CARE NEED FOR A PET, THEY CAN GO THERE AFTER HOURS, OBVIOUSLY BUSINESS HOURS, BUT IT'S 24/7.

ALL THE PET RELIEF AREAS ARE ACCOMMODATED

INDOORS. >> THANK YOU.

>> MS. SPIEGEL?

>> THIS IS JUST OCCURRING TO ME AS WE HEAR THIS.

I HADN'T THOUGHT OF IT BEFORE. ARE YOU GOING TO BE BACK HERE FOR A VARIANCE FOR SIGNS?

>> NO 6789 . THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

>> NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO

SIGNS. >> WE DON'T ANTICIPATE COMING BACK FOR A SIGN VARIANCE. WE FEEL LIKE THE WINN DIXIE HAD A LARGE SIGN. ALDI SIGN AND THIS SIGN MEETMEET CODE. THERE'S A MARQUEE OUT FRONT THAT GOES WITH THE SHOPPING CENTER.

WE DON'T ANTICIPATE COMING BACK FOR A SIGN

VARIANCE. >> GOOD ANSWER.

THANK YOU.

>> THERE'S NO OUTDOOR -- MR. LABANOWSKI ASKED THE QUESTION. THERE'S NO FENCED IN AREA FOR THE PETS OR ANYTHING. IT'S A SPECIALIZED USE AND EVERYTHING IS -- LUCKILY IT'S A LARGE ENOUGH SPACE THAT EVERYTHING IS INDOORS.

>> YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION. 24-HOUR EMERGENCY CARE?

>> YES, SIR.

>> THAT'S GREAT. GLAD TO HEAR

IT. >> THAT'S PART OF THE DEMAND IN THE MARKET. IT'S REALLY NEEDED.

IT'S A HIGH- END VET USE. 24/7.

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NORMAL OPERATING HOURS FOR NORMAL APPOINTMENTS.

THEN THERE'S AN AFTER HOURS THING WHERE VET STAFF IS THERE. IT'S A LOW TRAFFIC GENERATOR.

NOTHING COMPARED TO A NORMAL SHOPPING CENTER USE.

THAT'S IN THE ITE CODES. VERY LOW INTENSE USE.

YOU MAY SEE A REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC FROM WHAT THE WINN DIXIE GENERATED.

>> WHAT IS THE PLANNED TIMING TO OPEN THIS UP? I KNOW A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THROUGH VOICE MAIL AND EVERYTHING ELSE --

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I DON'T WANT TO PUT CHRIS LEE ON THE SPOT. AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

IF WE WERE TO GET THIS APPROVED TODAY, WE WOULD IMMEDIATELY COMMENCE WITH OUR INTERIOR PLANS AND MAKE OUR SUBMITTALS TO ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. WE NEED SEVERAL MONTHS FOR THAT APPROVAL PROCESS TO GET THAT THROUGH.

I WOULD IMAGINE IT WOULD BE SOMETIME IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1? SEEING NONE, BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 2025-12, THE PUD VETERINARIAN OFFICE BASED ON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT SUBJECT TO THE SIX

CONDITIONS. >> MOTION BY MR. GREENE AND SECOND BY DR. LABANOWSKI. MR. OLSON, ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

[2. ZVAR 2025-15 1925 State Road 13 N. Detached Garage. Request for a Zoning Variance to Section 2.02.04.B.4 of the Land Development Code to allow for the construction of a detached accessory garage for personal use & storage that will be larger in size and taller in eave height than the existing Main Use Structure; specifically located at 1925 State Road 13 North.]

THAT MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> TO ITEM 2, ANY EX PARTE? MR. OLSON.

>> ON AUGUST 30TH.

>> MR. LABANOWSKI?

>> I ALSO VISITED THE SITE.

>> MS. SPIEGEL?

>> I DID A SITE VISIT AND MET WITH MR. M CGARITY AT THE SITE.

>> ALL RIGHT. MR. MCGARITY?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. BRIAN M CGARITY, STATE ROAD 13.

LITTLE BACKGROUND. THIS IS A FAMILY PROPERTY.

MY WIFE AND I PURCHASED IT A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

I GREW UP IN THE AREA, ON ORANGE GROVE ROAD.

MY FATHER STILL LIVES THERE. WE'VE BEEN SEARCHING FOR PROPERTY IN THE AREA AND LANDED ON THIS SITE.

IT HAS A TINY HOME ON IT. MY MOM WAS LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO MOVE FROM HER RENTAL PLACE.

PERFECT TIMING. WE PUT MY MOM IN THERE.

SHE'S BEEN LIVING THERE AND WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT BUILDER TO BUILD OUR HOME.

LITTLE OVER TWO- ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

WE MAINTAIN IT AND WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD SOMETHING ON SITE, A PREFABRICATED BUILDING TO STORE OUR EQUIPMENT. THERE'S MY REQUEST.

THE EXISTING DWELLING ON THE PROPERTY IS QUITE TINY, 1,000-SQUARE FEET AND WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD A 2,200-SQUARE FOOT STORAGE GARAGE FOR EQUIPMENT AND FUTURE USE ONCE WE ARE ABLE TO BUILD OUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE ON THE SITE. TO GO THROUGH IT, HERE'S A QUICK OVERLAY OF OUR SITE, OF OUR AERIAL FOR THE PROPERTY. IN GREEN CIRCLED HERE AND HERE.

THIS IS THE TINY HOME THAT MY MOM CURRENTLY RESIDES IN.

THIS IS THE LOCATION WE'RE PROPOSING FOR OUR DETACHED GARAGE. WE'VE PROVIDED A SITE PLAN ALONG WITH THIS. THE GARAGE ITSELF IS 30 BY 75 WITH A 30 BY 60 ENCLOSED AND 15 BY 30 CARPORT ON THE FRONT OF IT.

HERE'S AN OVERSIGHT OF WHAT THE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE.

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-- I BELIEVE IT'S SECTION 2.02. 04B4 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR ACCESSORY DWELLINGS NOT TO EXCEED THE PRIMARY DWELLING.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? MR. OLSON?

>> NICE GARAGE. WHY DO YOU NEED SUCH A LARGE ONE?

>> I ALSO HAVE A COUPLE COLLECTOR CARS I WOULD LIKE TO STORE IN IT ONCE WE MOVE OUT HERE. OUR INTENT FOR OUR HOME IS TO USE THIS AS A GARAGE.

>> ALL RIGHT. IS YOUR FUTURE SCENARIO FOR THIS PARCEL TO HAVE TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS SINCE YOU PLAN TO BUILD ONE?

>> WE WOULD REQUEST THIS HOME TO BE TURNED INTO AN AFU, THE CURRENT DWELLING.

>> I'M NOT SURE --

>> ACCESSORY FAMILY UNIT. IT'S BASICALLY, IF HE BUILDS THE NEW HOME, IT'S GOING -- HIS GARAGE WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE AND THIS HOME WOULD BECOME AN ACCESSORY FAMILY UNIT.

THAT'S ALLOWED BY CODE.

>> THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE ANSWERS.

I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

>> OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 2.

SEEING NONE, BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A

MOTION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING VARIANCE 2025-15, 1925 STATE ROAD DETACHED GARAGE BASED UPON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT AND SIX PRO PROVISIONS IN THE STAFF

REPORT. >> MOTION BY MS. SIEGEL.

SECOND?

>> SECOND BY MR. LABANOWSKI. ANY COMMENTS?

>> JUST ONE COMMENT. I'M JEALOUS.

I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A GARAGE LIKE THAT.

OH, MAN, WHAT FUN YOU COULD

HAVE. >> ANYBODY WITH A QUESTION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

THAT MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU SO

[3. REZ 2025-08 155 West Genung Street. Request to rezone approximately 10.86 acres from Planned Unit Development (PUD) and Residential Single Family (RS-2) to Open Rural (OR), located at 155 West Genung Street.]

MUCH. >> THANK YOU TO THE BOARD.

APPRECIATE IT.

>> ON TO ITEM 3. ANY EX PARTE FROM AGENCY MEMBERS?

>> MADAM CHAIR, I DID A SITE VISIT.

>> MR. OLSON?

>> I VISITED THE SITE. IT'S AT THE END OF A VERY RUSTIC LOOKING ROAD.

I VISITED ON AUGUST 30TH.

>> I WAS AT THE SITE AS WELL.

>> HELLO, MY NAME IS LLOYD DAVIS.

THIS IS MY WIFE NANCY. WE LIVE AT 155 WEST GENUNG STREET. NANCY BUILT A HOME THERE IN 2002 AND CHERISHED IT. AFTER THE LOSS OF BOTH OF OUR SPOUSES, WE CAME TOGETHER AND MADE THIS HOUSE OUR HOME.

IT'S BECOME OUR REFUGE, OUR SANCTUARY AND OUR PLACE WHERE WE FIND

PEACE. >> SIR, CAN YOU SPEAK INTO -- JUST A LITTLE LOUDER.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT. WHEN WE LEARNED THAT THE SEVEN ACRES NEXT DOOR WERE SLATED TO BECOME A DEVELOPMENT WE WERE DEEPLY CONCERNED.

WE COULDN'T BEAR THE THOUGHT OF LOSING THE OAK TREES, WILDLIFE AND THE NATURAL CHARACTER OF THE LAND.

I PUT EVERYTHING I HAD INTO PURCHASING THE PROPERTY, NOT FOR FINANCIAL GAIN, BUT TO PRESERVE IT.

OUR PRIORITY IS PRIVACY, PEACE AND STEWARDSHIP OF THE LAND. IT'S OUR INTENTION TO KEEP IT LARGELY AS IS WITH THE TREES, OPEN SPACE AND WILDLIFE HABITAT INTACT.

WE ARE NOT SEEKING TO CAPITALIZE ON THIS LAND, NOR DO WE HAVE ANY INTEREST IN ACTIVITIES SUCH AS MINING, SOLID WASTE FACILITIES OR OTHER DISRUPTIVE USES, ALL OF WHICH ARE NOT EVEN PERMITTED UNDER THE OPEN RURAL ZONING THAT WE'RE REQUESTING BECAUSE OUR PROPERTY IS RESIDENTIAL. OUR GOAL IS TO SIMPLY ENSURE THAT THE LAND REMAINS IN HARMONY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CONTINUES TO PROVIDE THE QUIET AND NATURAL BEAUT KW Y THAT WE VALUE SO MUCH.

WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN REZONING THIS PROPERTY TO OPEN RURAL SO IT CAN REMAIN A SANCTUARY RATHER THAN A SUBDIVISION. HERE ARE THE SLIDES.

AN OVERVIEW SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE ZONING AROUND IT.

SO THE 6. 7 ACRES IS PUD FOR 15 HOMES.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT BETTER PICTURE OF WHAT -- THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THE PUD.

AGAIN, WE BOUGHT IT AND HAD NO INTENT OF EVER -- RIGHT NOW WE

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HAVE NO INTENT OF EVER BUILDING 15 HOUSES THERE.

ALSO, THE PUD IS EXPIRED AS ÷÷WELL.

THERE'S A COMMERCIAL PIECE IN THE FRONT, AS YOU MAY HAVE SEEN, BUT WE OWN THE RESIDENTIAL IN THE BACK. THEN WE HAVE JOINED THE PROPERTIES SO THE HOUSE THAT NANCY BUILT IS ON FOUR ACRES AND THEN THE SEVEN ACRES I PURCHASED, WE MADE IT ALL ONE PROPERTY. THAT'S THE PROPERTY WE'RE ASKING TO BE REZONED. THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BETTER VIEW OF IT. BY SUPPORTING THIS REZONING, YOU'RE NOT ONLY HELPING US PRESERVE OUR SANCTUARY, BUT YOU'RE PROTECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S BEAUTIFUL, UNIQUE CHARACTER, PREVENTING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION AND ENSURING THAT THIS PROPERTY REMAINS A HAVEN FOR WILDLIFE, A BUFFER OF GREEN SPACE FOR YEARS TO COME. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN REZONING THIS PROPERTY TO OPEN RURAL SO THAT IT CAN REMAIN A SANCTUARY RATHER THAN A SUBDIVISION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND

CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 3. PLEASE COME FORWARD, YES, SIR.

>> MY NAME IS JOHN WEARING. I'M A RESIDENT OF 407 CAMILLA TRAIL, ACROSS THE CREEK FROM THIS PROPERTY.

I AM VICE CHAIR OF THE HOA, BUT I'M NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THEM TODAY BECAUSE WE DID NOT TAKE ANY FORMAL POSITION ON THIS.

I'M JUST HERE TO SAY THAT, FIRST OF ALL, FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIVE THE CLOSEST TO THIS WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO SEE WHAT THE DAVISES ARE DOING AND WE WANT TO COMMEND THEM FOR TAKING TEN ACRES OF BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY AND TRYING TO KEEP IT AS TEN ACRES OF BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY. IT'S SOMETHING VERY RARE THESE DAYS. SECONDLY, ASIDE FROM COMMENDING THEM FOR DOING THAT, WE ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE TAKING OFF THE POSSIBILITY OF BUILDING 15 OR 16 RESIDENCES ON THAT PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD THEN BRING HOW MANY -- 30, 40 MORE CARS TRYING TO FEED INTO U.S.

1 AND SOMEHOW MAKE A U- TURN TO GO BACK NORTH.

WE HAVE A TERRIFIC PROBLEM RIGHT NOW TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE AREA.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO GO DOWN TO THE PUBLIX AND TRY TO COME BACK.

ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO PROHIBIT MORE TRAFFIC HEADING IN THE SOUTHERLY DIRECTION OF U.S. 1 IS GREAT.

THANKS AGAIN TO THE DAVISES AND APPRECIATE YOUR

TIME. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE? YES?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. CHARLIE HUNT, MILLCREEK ESTATES.

GIVEN THE DAYS THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS GOING THROUGH, INCLUDING RECENTLY WHEN SENATOR LEEK'S COMMITTEE WROTE SENATE BILL 180 TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO MAINTAIN THE 5% OF UNCLEARED PROPERTY ON THEIR DEVELOPMENTS, I WOULD SAY THAT THESE FOLKS ARE GREAT. I WILL APPLAUD THEM FOR MAKING THE MOVE TO BRING BACK AND REINSTATE THE OR FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT. I CAN'T IMAGINE 15 MORE HOMES IN THAT LITTLE AREA OR ANYWHERE AROUND THAT. I MEAN, IT'S GREAT THEY'RE PURCHASING IT AND MOVING TO KEEP IT AS IS. MAYBE WE NEED TO KEEP THINKING

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LIKE THAT AND IT STILL NEEDS TO BE AS MUCH AS WE CAN KEEP KEEP IT. GRANTED, WHEN THE BIG PEOPLE BUY IT, IT'S THEIR PROPERTY. BUT, BECAUSE OF EMERGENCIES HAPPENING FROM HURRICANES, THEY CAN CLEAR AS MUCH LAND AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN, WHICH IS KIND OF -- YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE HURRICANES -- I CAN CLEAR MORE OF MY PROPERTY.

THESE FOLKS AREN'T GOING TO DO IT.

GRANTED, THEY'RE PROBABLY IN A VERY HIGH FLOODING AREA RIGHT THERE, BUT IT IS -- THIS IS A REALLY GOOD EMPHASIS ON THAT LAST LITTLE PARAGRAPH IN SENATE BILL 180 TO WHAT THESE FOLKS ARE DOING. IT SHOWS THERE'S PEOPLE THAT STILL MATTER ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY THEY PURCHASED. THEY'RE NOT IN IT FOR THE MONEY. IT'S GREAT.

MAYBE IT WILL -- I DON'T KNOW -- OPEN UP A PARK OR SOMETHING. WOULDN'T THAT BE SOMETHING? I WOULD GO OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT DOING MUDDING OR ANYTHING. IT'S GREAT.

IT'S REALLY -- THIS IS REALLY JUST A COUNTER- ACT TO WHAT THAT BILL, WHEN IT WAS SIGNED, CAME DOWN AND SWIFTLY IMPOSED AND NOWNOW YOU THIS.

THIS IS AMAZING. IT TAKES ONE PERSON JUST TO DO THAT, OR TWO PEOPLE. THEY MEET UP AND WANT TO TAKE THE PROPERTY AND BUY IT AND KEEP IT AS IS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, BACK IN THE AGENCY. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT AND MOTION.

IS THAT OKAY?

>> YES.

>> MR. AND MRS. DAVIS, THIS IS A NO-BRAINER.

IT'S AN EASY ONE. I WANT TO THANK YOU.

I LIVE DOWN THE STREET. I DROVE BACK THERE AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY. I HOPE YOU HAVE A SUCCESSFUL EVERYTHING IN THAT AREA.

MY MOTION IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING 2025- 08 155 WEST GENUNG STREET BASED ON THE STAFF REPORT.

>> I SECOND IT. >> MOTION BY MS. SPIEGEL AND SECOND BY MR. HILSENBECK. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

THAT MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. AND MRS. DAVIS.

[Items 4 & 5]

>> ITEMS 4 AND 5, ANY EX PARTE. MR. OLSON?

>> YES, I HAD A CALL FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY ON THE 29TH. HE INVITED ME TO MEET WITH HIM TO FURTHER EXPLAIN THE PROJECT.

I MET WITH MR. QUEENER AND ÷÷MR. DUDLEY OF HIS COMPANY ON SEPTEMBER 3RD. I ALSO VISITED THE SITE ON SEPTEMBER 3RD.

>> MR. LABANOWSKI?

>> MINE IS RATHER LENGTHY. I DID GO TO THE COMMUNITY EVENT, SAT THROUGH THAT. DID TALK TO GARRETT AND BILL.

THEN I HAD A MEETING AT THE SPOT WITH GARRETT QUEENER AND AUSTIN DUDLEY. I MET THEM FOR BREAKFAST AND PAID FOR MY OWN BREAKFAST.

>> DR. HILSENBECK?

>> I SPOKE WITH DEREK QUEENER ABOUT THE PROJECT AND HE ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS.

>> MS. SPIEGEL?

>> I DID A SITE VISIT WITH MR. QUEENER.

WE MET AND ALSO DISCUSSED THE

PROJECT. >> MR. GREEN?

>> I ALSO DID A SITE VISIT AND COUPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH GARY ON THE

PHONE. >> I MET WITH MR. GARRETT QUEENER ON AUGUST 28TH AND WE DISCUSSED THE PROJECT AND HE ANSWERED ANY QUESTIONS I HAD AT THAT TIME. WE HADN'T HAD OUR FOLDER YET.

>> I AM KATHRYN WHITTINGTON, PROJECT LEGAL COUNSEL. MY ADDRESS IS 236 SAN MARCO AVENUE, ST. AUGUSTINE. WITH ME IS GARRETT QUEENER WITH

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PULTE HOMES. ALSO BILL SHILLING, THE CIVIL ENGINEER AND TRANSPORTATION EXPERT.

FIRST, I'M COMBINING THESE TWO BECAUSE THEY'RE COMPANION.

THEY'RE DEPENDENT ON EACH OTHER IN THIS PRESENTATION.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE ONE PRESENTATION.

I'M GOING TO FAMILIARIZE YOU WITH THE DRI AND PUD AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO GARRETT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO HIS COMPANY PULTE AND TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT. AFTER THAT, BILL WILL DISCUSS SCHOOL AND TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY. THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

DRI, I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS, BUT FOR ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT.

YOU WILL SEE THE TWO BLUE -- IF I CAN GET IT TO WORK.

THE TWO BLUE -- THIS POINTER ISN'T WORKING VERY WELL.

THE ONE THAT JUST SHOWED UP ST. JOHNS PARCEL PUD WAS APPROVED IN 1991-36. THAT'S ALMOST 35 YEARS AGO.

IS THIS WORKING? WHERE I JUST DREW THE RED LINE, THAT IS THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT ÷÷OF THE INTERCHANGE TRACT PUD PUD.

WHERE YOU SEE THE STAR IS THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT.

SOUTH OF THAT IS THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT.

THAT'S ONE PUD THAT MAKES UP HAVE OF THE DRI.

THE OTHER BLUE IS THE SIX- MILE CREEK PUD.

IT'S NOT AFFECTED BY THESE APPLICATIONS, BUT IT'S IN THE DRI.

YOU CAN SEE -- I REALLY WISH I COULD GET THIS POINTER TO WORK.

THERE. IT'S RIGHT THERE. OKAY.

YOU CAN SEE THE INTERCHANGE HERE OF -- THE INTERCHANGE OF I-95 AND IGP. THERE'S THE SIX MILE CREEK, UNAFFECTED. YOU NOTICE THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THEY'RE COLORED IN BLUE.

THAT'S NOT BECAUSE WE LIKE THAT COLOR.

IT'S BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEIR LAND USE IS.

IT'S ONE OF THE THREE OLDEST DRIS IN THIS COUNTY.

IT WAS -- APPROVAL WAS 91-130 OF THE I.

IT WAS APPROVED IN 1986, BUT IN TODAY'S FORM IT IS 1991.

THAT IS THE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

THIS IS THE AERIAL. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET RID OF THAT RED LINE NOW. OKAY.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S AROUND IT. THIS IS THE VILLAGE.

THIS IS THE NAQ. THE CANDY CANE LINE IS PARCELS 9 THROUGH 12. THIS IS SUBJECT TO THIS APPLICATION. HERE'S THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT.

HERE YOU CAN SEE THIS IS PARKLAND PRESERVE SURROUNDING PARCELS 9 THROUGH 12.

HERE'S VAN LAKES. SIX MILE, THIS IS HERITAGE LANDING, SIX MILE CREEK CENTRAL, CALLED THE MEADOWS.

THIS IS THE WORLD COMMERCE CENTER.

SO THE -- JUST SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE DRI FOR BACKGROUND. APPROVED FOR 25 YEARS.

APPROVED FOR ALMOST 5 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND OVER 8,000 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

IT'S A VERY BIG DRI. THE MITIGATION FOR THE DRIDRI SCHOOLS, THEY DONATED THE SITES FOR THOSE THREE SCHOOLS.

RECREATION, THEY DONATED 377-ACRE RECREATION PARCEL.

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THE PROJECT INCLUDES TWO GOLF COURSES, VARIOUS COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS.

IT PRESERVES OVER 2,800 ACRES OF WETLAND CREATION, PRESERVATION AND RESTORATION. FOR TRANSPORTATION, CONSTRUCTION OF REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH BILL WILL GO OVER IN MORE DETAIL WHEN HE'S UP.

THIS IS THE ZONING MAP. IT IS PUD AND IT IS SURROUNDED BY PUD. IT'S WITHIN THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY. IT'S HAD THE RIGHTS SINCE 1991.

YOU CAN SEE THIS IS CLEARLY IN FIELD DEVELOPMENT.

IN THE AREA IN PINK, THAT'S THE BOUNDARIES OF PARCELS 9 THROUGH 12.

THE HOLE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT IS A FDOT OWNED AND IT WILL BE A POND. THESE ARE THE LAST REMAINING PARCELS AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE NEQ OF THE DRI.

IT'S CURRENTLY APPROVED DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.

THEY'RE ACTIVE AND CAN BE EXERCISED AT ANY TIME ON THESE PARCELS.

THIS MAP DEMONSTRATES HOW COMPATIBLE RESIDENTIAL WILL BE RIGHT HERE. THIS IS, AGAIN, PARKLAND PRESERVE, BANNON LAKE. HERE'S MARKLAND.

THERE'S A COMPATIBILITY TABLE AND A DESCRIPTION THAT ALSO DEMONSTRATES HOW COMPATIBLE THIS WILL BE AS RESIDENTIAL. CURRENTLY THESE ARE THE ALLOWABLE USES ON THOSE PARCELS BY RIGHT. COMMERCIAL RETAIL, OFFICE, MULTI- FAMILY UNDER THE LIVE LOCAL ACT BY FLORIDA STATUTE.

THESE ARE ALLOWABLE BY RIGHT. WHAT THAT MEANS IS NO DRI OR PUD MODIFICATIONS WOULD BE ENTITLED FOR ANY OF THOSE USES.

JUST NEED CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL.

IF THIS APPLICATION IS NOT APPROVED, THESE RIGHTS REMAIN.

IF IT IS APPROVED IT RESULTS IN SIGNIFICANT DOWN ZONING.

THIS IS THE CURRENT APPROVED -- IT'S THE PORTION OF -- IN THIS DRI PUD IT'S CALLED MAP H. IT'S WHAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, A MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THIS IS THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT.

YOU CAN SEE THE USES, OIC. THIS IS PARKLAND PRESERVE.

HERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE I ASTERISK MEANS. ONCE ANY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OCCURRED IN THE NEQ, INDUSTRIAL IS NO LONGER ALLOWED. IT'S NO LONGER AN ALLOWABLE USE ON THESE PARCELS. THE NEQ TOWNHOME PROJECT, WHICH IS THE NAME OF IT, PARCELS 9 THROUGH 12 AND CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PROJECT ELIMINATES OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THOSE PARCELS.

THIS IS A RED LINE OF THE NVP. SHOWS YOU WHERE THE CHANGES ARE.

YOU CAN SEE R HAS BEEN ADDED TO O AND C.

YOU CAN SEE THE NOTE THAT SAYS INDUSTRY WILL BE RESTRICTED IS REMOVED AND NOTED THAT INDUSTRIAL IS NO LONGER ALLOWED.

I NOW ASK GARRETT TO COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIS COMPANY AND GIVE YOU DETAILS OF THE PROJECT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. GARRETT QUEENER WITH PULTE, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. TO KIND OF GO OVER WHAT WE'VE GONE OVER IN THE COMMUNITY MEETING IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF PULTE HOMES. WE'RE A HOME BUILDING

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COMPANY THAT OPERATES NATIONALLY AND WE HAVE÷÷HAVE OFFICE IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA.

I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR PLANNING NEW COMMUNITIES SPECIFICALLY IN THIS AREA.

KATHRYN WHITTINGTON TALKED ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE DRI AND THE ALLOWABLE USES BY RIGHT ON THIS PARCEL. FROM A SITE PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, I WANTED TO DIVE INTO WHAT THIS SITE COULD BECOME. I WANT TO NOTE THAT THESE ARE NOT THE MAXIMUM OF WHAT COULD BE DEVELOPED BASED ON THE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE ENTITLEMENTS ON THIS PARCEL. THESE ARE REASONABLE SITE PLANS.

TO START WITH THE OFFICE USE, YOU SEE IT'S ALMOST 900,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE BUILDINGS CURRENTLY ALLOWED TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON THIS PARCEL WITH A MINIMUM BUFFER OF 50 FEET.

COMMERCIAL RETAIL ALSO ALLOWED ON THIS PARCEL, ALMOST 300,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL ALLOWED HERE. AGAIN, MINIMUM HEIGHT -- BUFFER OF 20 FEET, MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 100 FEET. IMPORTANTLY FOR THE COMMERCIAL USE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A USE THAT'S LIKELY SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, MULTIPLE TENANTS. THE TRAFFIC THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT USE IS -- I'LL CALL IT MORE THAN THE RESIDENTIAL, BUT IMPORTANTLY YOU COULD SEE THINGS LIKE SEMIS DELIVERING RETAIL PRODUCTS, MERCHANDIZING.

LIVE LOCAL APARTMENTS UP TO 13 UNITS AN ACRE GETS YOU UP TO 700 APARTMENTS WITH A MUCH HIGHER HEIGHT, PROBABLY AROUND 50 FEET.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE PULTE PROJECT IS A DOWN ZONING TO GET PERIMETER BUFFER OF 25 FEET IN OUR 295 TOWNHOME PLAN. THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR TOWNHOMES IN THE PUD IS 40 FEET. THE PRODUCT WE'RE PROPOSING IS APPROXIMATELY 25 FEET. WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE IS, YOU KNOW, OUR NVP MAP RENDERED AND DROPPED INTO AN AERIAL MAP.

LET'S SEE IF I CAN DO THIS WITH THE LASER POINTER.

ON THE RIGHT OF YOUR SCREEN PARKLAND PRESERVE WAS DEVELOPED UNDER THE DRI AS WELL. SPECIFICS OF THE PLAN FOR US, 295 TOWNHOMES IS WHAT'S ON THE NVP WE'VE SHOWN.

25-FOOT HEIGHT WE'RE PROPOSING. WE'RE USING A VARIETY OF LOT WIDTHS FOR A COUPLE REASONS. 18 FOOT, 20 FOOT AND 24 FOOT. THAT'S ALLOWING US TO SERVE A VARIETY OF PRICE POINTS IN THIS AREA AND SECONDLY, IT'S ALLOWING US TO KEEP OUR DENSITY UNDER SIX UNITS AN ACRE COMPAREDCOMPARED THE MAX ALLOWABLE OF EIGHT UNDER THE PUD. YOU CAN SEE DOWN THERE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN THAT PURPLE AREA, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY PROPOSING WHERE OUR AMENITY CENTER WILL BE.

THAT'S LOCATED FURTHEST AWAY FROM THOSE EXISTING RESIDENCES BEING THAT IT'S AN AGE RESTRICTED COMMUNITY AND OURS WOULD NOT BE, WE PLACED THAT OUT÷÷OF THE WAY OF THOSE FOLKS AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.

COMMON AND PRESERVED AREAS, 53 ACRES HERE THAT ARE OWNED BY THE APPLICANT WILL REMAIN IN PRESERVATION AND REMAIN AS OPEN SPACE UNDER THIS DRI AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION.

TO GIVE MORE CONTEXT ABOUT WHERE WE ARE HERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT TO THE NORTH, SOUTH AND FRANKLY THE EAST AS WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF EXISTING PRESERVATION WHICH WILL REMAIN AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION. WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS THIS POD OF DEVELOPABLE UPLANDS AND WHATNOT IN THE AREA WHICH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. TO THE EAST OF US THERE, PARKLAND PRESERVE DEVELOPED UNDER THIS DRI AS WELL. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT OUR COMMUNITY MEETING. I WANT TO REITERATE THIS FOR ALL THE PARKLAND PRESERVE RESIDENTS, THE 25- FOOT BUFFER THAT WE SHOWED IS REALLY COMPLETING WHAT WAS A MASTER PLANNED BUFFER AS PART OF THIS ENTIRE PUD. SO KATHRYN WHITTINGTON SHOWED YOU MAP H AND YOU WOULD HAVE NOTICED ON THAT MAP THERE'S A CONTINUOUS TRACT ON THESE PARCELS. WHAT THAT TRACT WAS WAS AN 85- FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN THOSE DEVELOPMENT PARCELS.

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WE'VE CREATED THIS SECTION TO SHOW WHAT THE PHYSICAL SEPARATION BETWEEN THESE TWO USES LOOKS LIKE. IF YOU START FROM THE RIGHT AND WORK OVER TO YOUR LEFT, YOU WOULD SEE THOSE ARE THE EXISTING RESIDENCES ALONG SPOONVILLE CIRCLE. MOVING TO THE LEFT, THEY HAVE A CURRENT 20- FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK.

THAT'S TREES, GARDEN, PATIO, NOT PHYSICAL STRUCTURE. THEN YOU GET INTO THE 60- FOOT NATURAL BUFFER WHICH THE PARKLAND PRESERVE OWNS.

THAT'S THE FIRST 60 FEET OF THE 85- FOOT BUFFER PLANNED, WHICH IS PRIMARILY WETLAND WHICH IS WHAT PARKLAND TOOK WHEN THEY STARTED THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE LOOKING TO ENSURE THE COMPLETION OF THAT PUZZLE, THAT BUFFER, ADDING 25 FEET TO THAT BUFFER TO CREATE THAT 85- FOOT BUFFER. ADDITIONALLY WE MOVE INTO A 20- FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK. THAT CREATES THAT 125- FOOT ÷÷SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS.

YOU KNOW, AFTER OUR MEETING, WE TALKED OBVIOUSLY WITH THE RESIDENTS OF PARKLAND PRESERVE. IT BECAME IMPORTANT HOW WE COULD ASSURE FOLKS THAT 25 FEET MAY NOT SEEM LIKE A LOT, BUT GIVEN WHAT'S OUT THERE, IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE.

THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THAT SCREEN, THIS IS A DRONE PHOTOGRAPH. YOU SEE THAT BLUE TRIANGLE IS THE POSITION OF A DRONE. THAT SITS IN THE MIDDLE OF A TOWNHOME LOT. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF WHAT THAT BUFFER LOOKS LIKE. THEN HERE I THINK I NEAT FEATURE, WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE THAT DRONE AND DROP IT INTO THE HEIGHT OF A SECOND STORY TOWNHOME WINDOW, APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET OFF THE GROUND.

LOOKING TOWARDS PARKLAND PRESERVE AND THE RESIDENCES, YOU'LL SEE THIS BUFFER IS VERY TALL. THERE'S A LOT OF UNDERGROWTH IN THERE. YOU SEE THAT VIEW THERE AS YOU LOOK DOWN INTO PARKLAND PRESERVE, ALL YOU'RE GETTING THERE IS SOME ROOFTOPS. I TURN IT OVER TO BILL SHILLING NOW.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, AGENCY MEMBERS.

I'M BILL SHILLING. I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER LICENSED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. I'M HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SCHOOL AND TRAFFIC PORTIONS OF THE APPLICATION AND REALLY TO SHARE SOME OF THE BACKGROUND OF THE HISTORY OF THE ENTITLEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN BASICALLY APPROVED AS A PART OF THE OVERALL ST.

JOHNS DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT.

I'LL START BIG PICTURE AND WORK INTO FINER DETAIL ON EACH OF THESE ITEMS. I'LL START WITH SCHOOLS.

WITH SCHOOLS, AS MS. WHITTINGTON MENTIONED, THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED IN THE EARLY '90S AND AS A PART OF THAT OVERALL APPROVAL THERE WAS A MITIGATION PLAN THAT WAS NEGOTIATED WITH THE COUNTY AND APPROVED BASICALLY TO MITIGATE THE STUDENTS WHO WOULD BE -- MITIGATE FOR THE STUDENTS GENERATED FROM THE RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THIS PROJECT. SO THAT MITIGATION INCLUDED THE DEDICATION OF THREE SCHOOL SITES, ROUGHLY 9 ACRES TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THOSE THREE SCHOOL SITES ARE HIGHLIGHTED ON THIS EXHIBIT IN GREEN. SO THAT WOULD BE THESE THREE.

THOSE THREE SCHOOL SITES WERE A PART OF THE MITIGATION PLAN FOR THIS PROJECT AND THOSE SITES WERE DEDICATED AND PART OF THAT PLAN THAT DEDICATED THE STUDENT SPACES FOR THIS PROJECT.

INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH THE PROPOSED PROJECT, THE TOWNHOMES, THE ACTUAL ATTENDANCE ZONE THAT THIS PARCEL LIES WITHIN IS MILL CREEK ACADEMY, THE ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THEN TO COY CREEK FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

COMING TO THE AREA AS A PART OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S FIVE- YEAR PLAN IS REFERRED TO AS NEW SCHOOL QQ WHICH IS A NEW SCHOOL WITHIN THE SILVER LEAF PROJECT.

IT'S A K- 8 SCHOOL. THE TOPPING OUT OF THAT SCHOOL OCCURRED EARLIER THIS SCHOOL YEAR AND IT'S EXPECTED THAT NEW SCHOOL WILL BE OPENED FOR THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR, 26/27. RELATED TO THIS 295 UNITS, THE SCHOOL -- THE STUDENTS THAT WILL BE GENERATED BY THIS

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PROJECT, THOSE SCHOOL SEATS AND THOSE ENTITLEMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN RESERVED AS A PART OF THE OVERALL MITIGATION PLAN FOR THIS PROJECT. SO NO FURTHER MITIGATION IS REQUIRED BECAUSE THAT MITIGATION HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED WITH THE COUNTY AND THE STUDENTS -- THEIR SEATS ESSENTIALLY ARE VESTED.

THESE UNITS ARE VESTED UNDER THE DRI APPROVAL.

THIS IS THE LETTER WE RECEIVED FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD CONFIRMING THAT INFORMATION.

BUT, EVEN WITH THAT SAID, WE WANTED TO TAKE ONE MORE STEP OR TWO MORE STEPS TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL CAPACITIES AT THESE TWO SCHOOLS THAT WE'RE ZONED TO TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. I DO THINK IT TELLS A GOOD STORY. COUPLE THINGS. AS MENTIONED, ALL 295 TOWNHOMES ARE VESTED FOR SCHOOLS UNDER THE DRI.

THIS PROJECT, THE SPECIFIC 295 UNITS, ARE EXPECTED TO GENERATE 68 STUDENTS.

THAT'S BASED ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S CURRENT GENERATION RATES FOR STUDENTS. AND, AGAIN, PER THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT'S FIVE- YEAR PLAN THERE IS CAPACITY FOR THOSE STUDENTS WE'RE ZONED TO.

IN THE CURRENT SCHOOL YEAR, MILL CREEK ACADEMY IS AT 89% CAPACITY AND COY CREEK HIGH SCHOOL IS AT 87%. I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR WORKSHOP IS, YES, BUT SOME OF THOSE STUDENTS ARE REFERRED TO AS ABLE OR PORTABLE.

WE DUG DEEPER INTO THAT ANALYSIS.

WHAT WE FOUND IS -- THIS IS DISTRICT WIDE AND WHAT I'LL ALSO SHARE IS CLEAR THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS A VERY ROBUST FIVE- YEAR CAPITAL WORK PLAN.

RIGHT NOW TODAY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES HAVE AN AVERAGE OF 25% OF ITS STUDENT POPULATION IN RELOCATABLES OR PORTABLES, BUT, WITH THE CAPITAL PLAN AND SOME OF THAT CAPITAL COMING FROM THE SALES TAX THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THOSE SCHOOLS THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED, ONE OF WHICH IS A NEW K- 8 ADJACENT TO US IN SILVER LEAF, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS FORECASTING THAT BY THE 28/29 SCHOOL YEAR THAT WE WILL BE DOWN TO THE -- THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL BE DOWN TO APPROXIMATELY 2% OF RELOCATABLES.

RIGHT NOW BIG PICTURE IS THE PROJECT IS VESTED. WE BELIEVE BASED ON THE DATA THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS PROVIDED THAT THERE IS CAPACITY IN THE SCHOOLS THAT WE ARE WITHIN THEIR ATTENDANCE ZONES. VERY GOOD NEWS ON THAT FRONT.

JUMPING AHEAD, I'LL TRANSITION TO TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION AND TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

SO THE ST. JOHNS DRI CONSTRUCTED THE INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY WHICH OPENED UP THIS ENTIRE AREA FOR DEVELOPMENT AND IS PART OF THE REASON WE'RE HERE TODAY, BECAUSE THE INTERCHANGE WAS BUILT. THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER PROJECTS THAT INCLUDE WIDENING IMPROVEMENTS TO INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY, CONSTRUCTION OF NUMEROUS SIGNALS AT THE INTERSTATE, CONSTRUCTION OF THE SIGNAL AT PARKLAND TRAIL. THOSE HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED BY THIS DRI. ADDITIONALLY THERE ARE STILL IMPROVEMENTS. THE DRI IS STILL WITHIN ITS MITIGATION PLAN AND THERE ARE STILL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE YET TO BE MADE. SO THAT IS THE BOTTOM BULLET HERE, WHICH HAS COME OUT OF A GOOD BIT OF DISCUSSION WITH STAFF. ONE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YET TO BE MADE BASICALLY IS RELATED TO INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY AND FROM MARKLAND TO THE EAST, TO U.S. 1, THE DRI

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REQUIRES THAT THAT SEGMENT BE UPGRADED TO A TWO- LANE ARTERIAL. TODAY IT'S A TWO- LANE ROAD WITH 12-FOOT LANES. UPGRADING IT TO AN ARTERIAL REQUIRES FIVE- FOOT SHOULDERS ON THAT SECTION OF ROAD. IN WORKING WITH STAFF, IN WORKING WITH THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, THERE'S BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THAT PROJECT REALLY ADDS TREMENDOUS VALUE OR CAPACITY FOR THAT SEGMENT OF ROADWAY.

THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO TWELVE MILE SWAMP.

AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF AND IN SPEAKING WITH STAFF, THERE HAS BEEN A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CONFER TO CONDITION FFK. TECHNICALLY IT'S CONDITION FFK OF THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER, BASICALLY CONVERT THAT FROM THE IMPROVEMENT TO ADD THE SHOULDERS TO INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY TO AN ACTUAL PAYMENT TO THE COUNTY. STAFF'S INTENT IS FOR THAT PAYMENT TO BE DIRECTED TOWARDS IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERCHANGE. CERTAINLY THE BELIEF RIGHT NOW IS THAT THOSE DOLLARS GOING TO THE INTERCHANGE WOULD BE FAR MORE IMPACTFUL IN A POSITIVE WAY THAN ADDING THE SHOULDERS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY CONTEMPLATED TO INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY. WHAT WE -- THE TEAM -- WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF AND PUT TOGETHER A COST ESTIMATE FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE THIS IMPROVEMENT WOULD COST IF WE WERE TO CONSTRUCT IT AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY $5 MILLION. SO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS AMENDMENT IS MODIFYING CONDITION FFK FROM THE IMPROVEMENT TO AN ACTUAL PAYMENT OF $5 MILLION TO THE COUNTY. THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE AND PROPOSED AS A PART OF THIS CHANGE AND MODIFICATION AS WELL.

WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S BIG PICTURE.

WE'LL START DRILLING IN A LITTLE TIGHTER. AS MS. WHITTINGTON MENTIONED, THESE PARCELS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, PARCELS 9-12 HAVE ENTITLEMENT RIGHTS TODAY THAT INCLUDE THE RIGHT TO DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL RETAIL ON THE PARCELS, THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP GENERAL OFFICE ON THE PARCELS AND THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP MULTI- FAMILY THROUGH THE LIVE LOCAL ACT. WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER PROJECTS IN THE AREA AND TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT INTENSITIES OF WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY, CONSERVATIVELY BE BUILT ON THESE PARCELS. WE'VE RUN ESSENTIALLY USING INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION DATA WHAT THE TRIPS COULD LOOK LIKE THAT WOULD BE GENERATED BY THESE DIFFERENT USES COMPARED TO THE TOWNHOMES BEING PROPOSED.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE OTHER USES THAT ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT WOULD GENERATE MULTIPLES OF TRAFFIC OVER WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED WITH THE TOWNHOMES. ONE OF THE -- SO WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS FROM A GROSS DAILY TRIP STANDPOINT. AGAIN, THE COMMERCIAL RETAIL ÷÷COULD BE GENERATING A LITTLE OVER 13,000 NEW GROSS TRIPS PER DAY VERSUS 1,970 TRIPS PER DAY, GROSS TRIPS PER DAY FOR THE TOWNHOMES.

WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT THE PMP CALENDAR, YOUR BUSIEST HOUR OF ÷÷THE DAY. WE BROKE IT DOWN TO A NUMBER OF VEHICLES PER MINUTE. SO ON THE COMMERCIAL RETAIL, WHICH WOULD BE THE WORST TRAFFIC CASE WE'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST 20 VEHICLES PER MINUTE VERSUS TWO AND A HALF VEHICLES PER MINUTE ÷÷ON THE TOWNHOMES OF WHAT'S PROPOSED.

YOU CAN SEE THE COMMERCIAL IS ALMOST A FACTOR OF EIGHT TIMES THE TRAFFIC GENERATED FROM WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

CONTINUING TO DRILL IN A LITTLE FURTHER, THIS IS THE ACCESS LOCATION. TO GIVE SOME BEARINGS, THIS IS INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY, THIS IS PARKLAND TRAIL.

PARKLAND TRAIL FROM OUR PROPOSED SITE ENTRANCE TO INTERNATIONAL ÷÷GOLF PARKWAY IS A FOUR- LINE DIVIDED ROADWAY. AS YOU GET TO THE DRIVEWAY HERE, THE INTENT IS FOR THE TWO INBOUND LANES, THE INSIDE INBOUND LANE WILL BECOME A LEFT ONLY LANE AND THE OUTSIDE LANE WILL REMAIN A THROUGH LANE BE ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR TS WILL- SUBDIVISION. THE PARKLAND PRESERVE, THERE'S

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A GATE RIGHT HERE. IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY.

THE PROPOSED AK ACCESS POINT IS OUTSIDE SO IT DOESN'T IMPACT THEIR GATE OPERATIONS. THIS IS THE LOCATION. AGAIN, WE'VE GONE A STEP FURTHER AND MODELLED THE TRAFFIC AT THIS INTERSECTION FOR THE MORNING PEAK HOUR AND THE AFTERNOON PEAK HOUR. THE WAY THIS INTERSECTION IS BEING DESIGNED OR WOULD BE DESIGNED IS THAT TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF THE TOWNHOME PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO STOP.

THERE WILL BE A STOP SIGN HERE, BUT THROUGH TRAFFIC ON PARKLAND TRAIL WOULD BE FREE FLOW.

THEY WOULD NOT STOP. THIS WOULD NOT IMPEDE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THE PARKLAND PRESERVE SUBDIVISION.

THE TOWNHOME TRAFFIC WOULD BE REQUIRED TO YIELD OR STOP TO YIELD TO THE THROUGH TRAFFIC. WHAT THE ANALYSIS HAS DEMONSTRATED IS THAT FOR THOSE MOVEMENTS THAT ARE STOP CONTROLLED, THAT ARE REQUIRED TO STOP, THE SOUTHBOUND RIGHT AND THIS LEFT COMING IN, BOTH OF THOSE MOVEMENTS OPERATE AT LEVEL SERVICE A AND DEMONSTRATE AN AVERAGE OF LESS THAN TEN SECONDS DELAY PER VEHICLE, WHICH IS VERY GOOD.

THESE VOLUMES DEMONSTRATE WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR THE VOLUMES NEEDED TO WARRANT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

THERE'S NO NEED FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THIS INTERSECTION. WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT DAILY TRAFFIC ON THIS SEGMENT OF PARKLAND TRAIL.

AS MENTIONED -- SO FROM A MAXIMUM SERVICE VOLUME WHICH IS LAYMEN'S TERMS I WOULD REFER TO THAT AS CAPACITY.

THE MAXIMUM SERVICE VOLUME FOR A FOUR- LINE DIVIDED SUBURBAN ROAD BASED ON DOT VOLUMES IS 3,000 VEHICLES PER DAY.

WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS AT THE HIGHEST TRAFFIC POINT WE'RE PROJECTING AT BUILD- OUT OF EVERYTHING IN THE NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE INTERCHANGE A TOTAL TRAFFIC VOLUME OF A LITTLE OVER 20,000 VEHICLES TODAY, ROUGHLY 64%.

AS YOU GET FURTHER BACK AND CROSS INTO THE DRI, THE DRI BOUNDARY IS RIGHT HERE, SO THERE WE WOULD BE AT ROUGHLY A DAILY VOLUME OF 5400 VEHICLES A DAY.

ROUGHLY 16% UTILIZATION. AS FAR AS TRAFFIC GOES, A COUPLE THINGS. ONE IS THAT THE BIG PICTURE IS THESE TRIPS ARE ENTITLED AND BEING CONVERTED FOR, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A SECOND.

SECONDLY, WHEN WE DRILL INTO THE NUMBERS, WE'RE SEEING THERE IS CAPACITY HERE ON PARKLAND TRAIL FOR THESE SPECIFIC TRIPS AND THAT THE INTERSECTION WILL OPERATE ACCEPTABLY.

THIS IS THE LAST OF THE SLIDES FOR ME TO TALK ABOUT AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. WHITTINGTON.

ONE OF THE ITEMS IN YOUR PACKAGE IS THIS, THE LAND USE EXCHANGE TABLE, WHICH IS APPROVED AND WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2017 WAS WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED.

WHAT IS BEING DONE HERE IS THERE'S AN EXCHANGE THAT IS TAKING PLACE AND SO THE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE USE IS BEING REDUCED IN AN AMOUNT EQUIVALENT IN NUMBER OF TRIPS TO WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL USE IS BEING INCREASED. SO WE'RE USING THE RATES, THOSE TRIP RATES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED IN THE DRI FOR THIS CONVERSION AND SO WITH THIS CONVERSION THERE'S NO NET INCREASE IN ENTITLED TRIPS OR BASICALLY APPROVED TRAFFIC ENTITLEMENTS FOR THIS PROJECT.

I WILL ALSO SHARE AND POINT OUT WHAT WE ARE REVISING IS BACK IN 2017 WHEN THIS TABLE WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED AND APPROVED AND ADOPTED, AT THAT TIME THE THOUGHT WAS THAT 3,120 UNITS WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS. WE'RE INCREASING THAT RIGHT NOW BY 147 UNITS BECAUSE THAT IS NOW THE NEW EXPECTED MAXIMUM UNIT COUNT. IT'S NOT ALL 295 UNITS BECAUSE 140 OF THEM WERE ALREADY ANTICIPATED OR CONTEMPLATED IN THE 3,120. WE ARE INCREASING THE TOTAL MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL COUNT WITHIN THE DRI BY 147 UNITS.

SO APPROVAL OF THIS TABLE, THIS ÷÷IS THE RED LINE VERSION,

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AGAIN, SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKET AS PART OF THE MODIFICATION AND THE APPROVAL TODAY.

WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO -- THAT'S THE END OF THE TRAFFIC AND SCHOOL PART. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND WE'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO MS. WHITTINGTON. THANK YOU.

>> I KNOW HOW INTERESTING THAT WAS.

MORE FUN STUFF NOW. THIS IS THE SUMMARY OF THE COMBINED CHANGES FOR THE DRI AND THE PUD.

DEVELOPMENT, AS YOU HEARD, OF 295 TOWNHOME UNITS IN PARCELS 9-12. THESE UNITS HAVE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY, HAVE BEEN MITIGATED FOR. MAP H IS BEING CHANGED TO ADD RESIDENTIAL USES ALLOWABLE ON PARCELS 9-12.

BILL WENT OVER THE CONVERSIONS. 141, 267 SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRY UNDER A DRY LOOP APPLICATION. INCREASING THE CAP OF UNITS, RESIDENTIAL UNITS FROM 3,120 TO 3,267. WE NEEDED 147 NEW TO GET UP TO THE 295. VESTED AND ACCOUNTED FOR TRANSPORTATION TRIPS FROM THE DRI. THERE'S NO NET INCREASE IN TRIPS. BILL WENT OVER SUBSTITUTION OF THE $5 MILLION TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR THE INTERSECTION BETWEEN INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY AND U.S. 1 IN LIEU OF CONSTRUCTION IMPROVEMENTS WHICH WAS SUGGESTED BY STAFF. THE AREA IS EXPANDING WHERE THE MONEY CAN BE SPENT ON IGP AND GIVES THE COUNTY A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THOSE FUNDS AND MITIGATION DOLLARS. RESULTS IN A LOT LESS IMPACTS TO WETLANDS AND TREES IN THE SWAMP AREA.

THEN THE PUD HAS AN INCREMENT NVP MAP FOR THE TOWNHOMES PROJECT. IN ADDITION THERE'S CLEAN- UP ADMINISTRATION ITEMS WHICH YOU DO IN OLDER PROJECTS.

YOU BRING IT FORWARD AND CLEAN IT UP, WHICH WE'RE DOING. THE NUMBERS YOU SAW INCORPORATE CURRENT AND PREVIOUS EXCHANGES ALLOWED UNDER THE DRI.

THOSE ARE BY STATUTE. THEY DON'T COME BEFORE ANYBODY.

IT'S NOT AN APPROVAL. THAT'S WHY THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER DOESN'T GET UPDATES UNTIL YOU DO AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS. IT'S INCORPORATING LEGISLATIVE EXTENSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN GRANTED BY EXECUTIVE ORDER OF THE GOVERNOR AND STATUTE.

AS I TALKED ABOUT DELETING THE INDUSTRY USE ON MAP H.

CORRECTION AND DELETION OF ITEMS IN THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER THAT ARE NO LONGER RELATIVE OR THEY'VE BEEN SATISFIED. YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE ARE IN THE RED LINE IN YOUR STAFF REPORTS. IN SUMMARY, THE TOWNHOME PROJECT GENERATES SUBSTANTIALLY LESS TRAFFIC, 75 TO 85% REDUCTION FROM OFFICE OR COMMERCIAL RETAIL. THE TOWNHOMES HAVE VESTED AND MITIGATED SCHOOL CONCURRENCY WHICH BILL DISCUSSED. LESS THAN 50% OF THE STUDENTS THAT WOULD OCCUR IF IT WAS LIVE LOCAL ACT APARTMENTS.

ALL ROADWAY SCHOOL IMPACTS ARE VESTED FOR UNDER THE DRI.

AMENDS THE TRANSPORTATION OBLIGATION TO SUPPORT CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS OF THE COUNTY AND GIVES ST. JOHNS COUNTY THE ABILITY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE I-95 INTERCHANGE AND A LITTLE WEST.

RESULTS IN NO NET INCREASE IN DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS BECAUSE THE EXCHANGE OF 141,276 SQUARE FEET IS SIMILAR.

IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY LESS INTENSE OF A USE THAN THOSE ALLOWABLE BY÷÷RIGHT. TOWNHOME PROJECT, AS YOU SAW IN GARRETT'S PRESENTATION, IS WELL BUFFERED AND COMPATIBLE IN FIELD DEVELOPMENT.

LASTLY, JUST SOME BENEFITS TO THE COUNTY.

DEVELOPS PROPERTY WITHIN THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY. IT PROMOTES COMPATIBLE AND COMPLIMENTARY USE. PROMOTES INFIELD DEVELOPMENT WHICH PREVENTS URBAN SPRAWL.

ENSURES CONTINUED PRESERVATION OF NATURAL SYSTEMS WHICH GARRETT SHOWED YOU IN HIS SLIDES. PROVIDES A MIX OF HOUSING TYPES AND PRICE RANGES WHICH PROVIDES

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HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT.

DIRECTS GROWTH TO AN AREA SERVED BY INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE IS WITHIN A QUARTER MILE. EXPAND THE TAX BASE AND GENERATES APPROXIMATELY 4 MILLION IN IMPACT FEES.

A LOT OF THESE ARE GOALS AND POLICIES STRAIGHT OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. TEAM AND I ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> MR. OLSON?

>> YOU MAY HAVE COVERED THIS AND I'M PROBABLY NOT FOLLOWING ALL THE DETAILS. I WANTED TO CONFIRM A COUPLE THINGS. WHAT YOU JUST SAID, THE APPROVAL OF THIS ADDS TO THE TAX BASE, BUT WE'RE IN A WAY -- BECAUSE OF THE EXCHANGE, SHIFTING LAND USE FROM INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL, CORRECT?

>> SHIFTING COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE TO RESIDENTIAL.

INDUSTRIAL'S GONE. IT'S BEEN ELIMINATED BECAUSE ANY RESIDENTIAL USE WENT INTO THIS NORTHEAST QUADRANT. IT'S COMMERCIAL/RETAIL AND

OFFICE. >> OKAY.

>> A COUNTY THAT'S INTENT TO INCREASE THE PORTION OF COMMERCIAL/INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL, THIS PROJECT WOULD TAKE IT IN THE OTHER DIRECTION, RIGHT, ON THAT POINT?

>> ON THAT POINT -- LET ME GO BACK TO HERE.

THERE'S TWO SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT THERE. FIRST OF ALL, THEY'RE UNDEVELOPED, VACANT.

NO TAX BASE AT THE MOMENT.

>> UNDERSTOOD. >> THIS SOME MAY ARGUE, INCLUDING US, THIS IS FAR MORE COMPATIBLE USE IN THIS AREA. SOME MAY ARGUE IT'S ALSO VISIBLE ADJACENT TO I-95.

IN THE FUTURE, IT HASN'T HAPPENED IN 35 YEARS, YOU COULD SEE THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD SITE FOR SOMETHING THAT NEEDS A BIG SIGN ON I-95 LIKE A CAR DEALERSHIP.

>> WELL, YES, BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE THE MAXIMUMS THAT WERE ILLUSTRATED FOR COMMERCIAL, OFFICE USES ON THAT. IF THOSE WERE ACHIEVED, THE ROAD NETWORK INTERNALLY IN THAT PUD WOULD NEED TO BE DEALT WITH IN A BIGGER WAY THAN IS CURRENTLY CONFIGURED.

>> NO. >> YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE ADDING -- THOSE USES WOULD ADD SIGNIFICANTLY MORE TRAFFIC INTO THAT

AREA. >> THOSE USES HAVE ALREADY BEEN MITIGATED FOR. IT WOULD NOT CHANGE THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK OR MITIGATION PLAN.

IT'S REDUCING THE INTENSITY OF THE USE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PAID

FOR. >> OKAY.

MY OTHER QUICK QUESTION IS THE EXCHANGE THAT CREATES 147 MORE UNITS OF RESIDENTIAL, IS THAT KEY -- IS THE TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY ORDINANCE THAT'S CURRENTLY IN EFFECT SINCE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ARE NOT SUBJECT TO TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY IN OUR COUNTY?

>> NO, SIR. WHEN THE NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED, THEY HAD TO MITIGATE FOR IT.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. THERE ARE SOME OTHER OBLIGATIONS THAT BILL MENTIONED THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DONE. A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER HAVE BEEN DONE AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND NONRESIDENTIAL TODAY IS NOT SUBJECT TO CONCURRENCY, THIS ONE WAS AND AT THE TIME.

>> BUT YOU'RE ADDING 147 UNITS THAT WERE NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL DRI.

>> THE CONCURRENCY AND PROPORTIONATE SHARE IS FACTORED IN THE DRI BASED ON THE NUMBER OF TRIPS. THEY WERE MITIGATED FOR AT A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL.

>> WHATEVER YOU'RE SAYING, TECHNICALLY THIS IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE CURRENT ORDINANCES ON TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> MR. LABANOWSKI?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD OFF ON ANY QUESTIONS UNTIL WE HEAR FROM THE AUDIENCE.

>> OKAY.

>> MS. WHITTINGTON, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS TO CLARIFY.

THE STAFF REPORT WAS MAYBE A LITTLE CONFUSING FOR ME TALKING ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

YOU'RE ONLY INCREASING THE DRI RESIDENTIAL UNITS BY THE DIFFERENCE OF 174, CORRECT?

>> WE ARE ONLY INCREASING THE MAXIMUM UNITS ON THIS EXCHANGE TABLE BY 147.

>> 147.

>> BUT YOU SEE A BIGGER NUMBER IN THE NUMBER OF

UNITS. >>

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YES, I DO.÷÷CAN YOU EXPLAIN -- IT GOES FROM 7,598 TO 8 -- IT'S A DIFFERENCE OF 400 SOME UNITS.

SOMETHING ABOUT SIX UNITS WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND 179 FROM INDUSTRIAL WERE CONVERTED. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT?

>> YES, I CAN. THOSE ARE PRIOR CONVERSIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE. THEY'RE NOT DONE BY MODIFICATIONMODIFICATION OF DEVELOPMENT.

THEY'RE DONE BY A DRI LAND USE EXCHANGE.

IT'S A STATUTORY CREATURE. IT'S NOT APPROVED.

IT'S GUARANTEED. ALL YOU DO IS PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE COUNTY WE'RE EXCHANGING UNDER THIS TABLE.

UNTIL A MODIFICATION COMES ALONG, THE NUMBERS NEVER GET ÷÷BUILT IN. THAT 480 CHANGE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INCLUDE THE 295 ÷÷CONVERSION AND PREVIOUS CONVERSIONS, ONE OF WHICH WAS DONE FOR PARKLAND.

THE FIVE UNITS YOU MAY -- YOU MAY HAVE BEEN ON THIS DAIS WHEN TRAILMARK CAME AND THEY INCORPORATED 70 ACRES IN SIX MILE CREEK SOUTH.

AT THAT TIME THEY ASKED FOR FIVE EXTRA UNITS. THAT NUMBER IS INCLUDING

THAT. >> THAT MAKES MORE SENSE. THE MATH WASN'T MATHING FOR

ME. >> I ANTICIPATED THAT WAS GOING TO BE A QUESTION.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

ANYBODY ELSE? WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> MADAM CHAIR, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW THERE WAS ONE DESIGNATED SPEAKER, BOB PARENT HE HAS BEEN GIVEN 15 SPEAKERS SO THOSE OTHER 15 WILL NOT SPEAK.

>> YOU SAID 15, CORRECT?

>> 15. >> MY NAME IS BOB PARENT.

I RESIDE AT 164 EAGLES LANDING LANE IN PARKLAND PRESERVE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT, BUT SOME CONCERNS THAT THE PROJECT WILL IMPACT PARKLAND PRESERVE. THESE GENTLEMEN HERE, THEY GAVE A GREAT PRESENTATION TO BOTH OUR CDD AND HOA BACK IN AUGUST. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF RESERVATIONS OR CONCERNS THAT HAD COME OUT OF THAT. THE FIRST ONE IS TRAFFIC.

IN THIS AREA -- YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE NEW CUTOFF IS AND THE ENTRANCE TO PARKLAND PRESERVE.

IS THIS A LASER POINTER AS WELL?

>> YOU CAN GET ANOTHER ONE THAT'S WORKING BETTER.

>> GOT IT. THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO PARKLAND. THIS IS THE NEW PROPOSED ENTRANCE TO THE NEQ. THIS IS TWO LANES COMING IN AND TWO LANES COMING OUT. OUR CONCERN IS WITH CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT WHERE WILL THEY BE STAGED? WILL THEY BE STAGED ON THE PARKLAND TRAIL OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE STAGED IN THIS AREA OVER HERE? WILL IT IMPEDE ONE OF THE LANES COMING INTO PARKLAND PRESERVE? THE OTHER PORTION OF THE PROBLEM HERE IS THIS AREA HERE, THERE IS RIGHT NOW A -- COULD THIS BE MADE INTO A TURNING LANE AND RETAIN THESE TWO LANES COMING INTO PARKLAND PRESERVE? OFTEN ENOUGH THERE'S CALL BOXES RIGHT HERE AND WE GET A TRAFFIC BACKUP HERE. I HATE TO SEE CARS WAITING IN LINE HERE TO GET THE GATES OPEN. THESE ARE -- IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY, 55 PLUS. OUR CONCERN IS THAT THIS EXTRA TRAFFIC MAKING THIS TURN MAY IMPEDE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC GOING INTO PARKLAND PRESERVE.

THERE'S TWO CONCERNS. ONE IS STAGING OF THE EQUIPMENT AND THE OTHER CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, ENTRY INTO PARKLAND PRESERVE AS IT STANDS TODAY.

MY NEXT ONE -- I'LL SKIP THIS NEXT SLIDE.

WE DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON SOME OF THE WIDTHS OF THE EQUIPMENT IF IT WAS STAGED ON PARKLAND PRESERVE AND NOT A STAGING AREA WITHIN THAT

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PROPERTY. THE OTHER ONE IS THERE ISIS BOUNDARY THAT THEY ILLUSTRATED, IN THIS AREA WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RIGHT HOW HOGS.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF HOGS IN THAT AREA ON THAT PROPERTY.

WE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH CONSTRUCTION ON PARCEL 14, WHICH WAS APPROVED AND THEY BROKE GROUND AND PUT IN A ROADWAY. WE HAD TO CALL IN TRAPPERS TO PULL OUT HOGS. THEY PULLED OUT, YOU KNOW, A FAMILY OF SEVEN. THEN WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PROBLEMS WITH SNAKES AND WHATEVER IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. OUR CONCERN IS WITH THE CONSTRUCTION AND POSSIBLE NOISE FROM -- WE'RE A 55 PLUS COMMUNITY. THIS IS NOT A 55 PLUS COMMUNITY.

CHILDREN PLAYING WITHIN THAT PRESERVE AREA, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A SWAMP, YOU KNOW, COULD BE QUITE DANGEROUS.

WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING UP A BARRIER WHERE THAT YELLOW LINE IS.

A BARRIER WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 180 FEET OFFENSE THAT WOULD SEPARATE THE PROPOSED PROPERTY -- THIS IS THE PROPOSED PROPERTY LINE. PUT UP A FENCE RIGHT HERE AT THE EDGE OF THE PRESERVE. THIS IS THE PROPERTY LINE, THE YELLOW LINE. TO ACTUALLY PREVENT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GOING INTO THE PRESERVE AND ENCROACHING ONON PROPERTIES HERE. THAT WAS THE SECOND REQUEST.

OUR THIRD REQUEST IS ON THE PROPERTY MAP ITSELF THERE IS THIS BUMP OUT. WE'RE NOT SURE IF THIS IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. THE SETBACK FROM THESE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY TO THAT BUMP OUT WOULD CAUSE, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN THE 165- FOOT NATURAL BARRIER BETWEEN THE NEW PROJECTPROJECT THE EXISTING RESIDENCE THERE. OUR CONCERN IS IS THIS A -- SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, THIS AREA HERE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED OR IS IT NOT BEING DEVELOPED? WE DON'T KNOW THAT.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE ANSWERED. BASICALLY WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT AT ALL. WHAT WE ARE QUESTIONING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROCEDURES AND TRAFFIC PROCEDURES AND, YOU KNOW, THE USE OF THAT LAND.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> NO, BUT THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS AND THEN WE CAN ASK THEM QUESTIONS

THEN. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE? YOU ALL ARE WELCOME TO COME UP AND SPEAK.

JUST FORM A LINE. YOU CAN COME TO ANY OF THE PODIUMS HERE.

>> THANK YOU. I'M A RESIDENT OF PARKLAND PRESERVE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON -- I OPPOSE THE DEVELOPMENT. THE REASON WHY I OPPOSE -- I DON'T THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE TALK ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ANY OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ÷÷WILL BE MOVING INTO THE TOWNHOUSE AREA OR FOR THE RESIDENCES THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA WHO WILL BE IMPACTED BY ANOTHER 295 UNITS GOING IN THAT CLOSE TO OUR AREA.

I MOVED HERE TWO YEARS AGO FROM LEVEL PLAINS, ALABAMA, WHERE I SERVED AS A CITY COUNCILMAN.

THE CITY COUNCIL REVIEWED EVERY PROPOSAL BY DEVELOPERS AND THE NUMBER ONE THING WE LOOKED AT IS HOW DOES IT IMPACT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE RESIDENTS.

WE WEREN'T WORRIED ABOUT TAX BASE OR EXTRA MONEY.

WE WERE ALWAYS LOOKING AT QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE RESIDENTS. SINCE WE MOVED IN THERE, THE ROAD NOISE ON I-95 HAS INCREASED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

I WAS SURPRISED HOW HEAVY THE TRAFFIC IS NOW.

THERE'S NO TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN FIVE YEARS WHEN WE HAVE SO MUCH TRAFFIC COMING OUT AND WE HAVE TO WIDEN I-95 TO MAKE IT A FOUR- LANE

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TO HANDLE HURRICANE EVACUATIONS. THAT'S GOING TO PUSH RIGHT INTO THAT AREA.

THE NOISE MITIGATION RIGHT NOW WITH THE NATURAL VEGETATION IN THAT AREA HELPS TO KEEP THE NOISE LEVEL DOWN EXCEPT FOR IN THE WINTER WHEN ALL THE VEGETATION DIES OFF ALONG I-95.

THE ROAD NOISE IS EXTREMELY LOUD.

WHEN YOU TEAR OUT ALL THOSE TREES TO MAKE ROOM FOR THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT, NOISE LEVELS IN PARKLAND ARE GOING TO SKY ROCKET FROM THE I- 95 TRAFFIC.

SINCE I MOVED THERE WE'VE HAD TWO FOUR- STORY APARTMENT COMPLEXES GO UP AND OUR WATER PRESSURE HAS GONE DOWN. WE HAVE ANOTHER PARCEL 14 GOING IN, WHICH IS MORE HIGH- RISE APARTMENTS.

WATER PRESSURE WILL GO DOWN. NOTHING IS BEING ADDRESSED TOWARDS THAT. WITH 295 UNITS THE WATER PRESSURE IS GOING TO GO DOWN. TRAFFIC HAS BECOME ALMOST -- IT'S CRAZY. YOU CAN'T COMMUTE ACROSS NINE MILE ROAD. IT CAN TAKE SOMETIMES FOUR LIGHT CHANGES TO GET TO THAT INTERSECTION.

PUTTING IN ANOTHER 295 UNITS WILL ALSO INCREASE THAT UNLESS YOU MAKE, LIKE YOU DID ON 210, FOUR LANES, TWO LANES GOING IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY RELIEF ON PARKWAY -- ON THAT PARKWAY. $5 MILLION ISN'T GOING TO DO MUCH FOR YOU UNLESS YOU MAKE THAT A FOUR-LANER.

THAT'S MY CONCERN. WHAT'S THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL OF US WHO LIVE THERE AND THE PEOPLE IN THOSE TOWNHOUSES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BEAR ALL THAT NOISE FROM THE FREEWAY?

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. MA'AM?

>> I LIVE AT 975 PARKLAND TRAIL. WE CELEBRATED THE 465- YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE PEOPLE WHO CAME TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE ALL CAME AND STAYED TO MAKE OUR HOME IN THIS BEAUTIFUL PART OF FLORIDA. IN MORE RECENT DECADES THE DEVELOPMENT OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROJECTS HAS INCREASED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY AND THE GROWTH OF THE ECONOMY.

HOWEVER, OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS THERE'S A TROUBLING TREND IN THE STYLE AND THE MANNER OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN DESIGNED AND APPROVED.

NOT JUST IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, BUT NATIONWIDE.

THE MINIMUM SETBACKS, UNITS PER ACRE, SITE COVERAGE AND REQUIREMENTS TO MAINTAIN STANDING FORESTS AND NATURAL HABITATS JUST TO MENTION A FEW HAVE BECOME THE MINIMUMS THAT PROJECT DEVELOPERS ARE INCLUDING IN THEIR PROPOSAL. THROUGHOUT ST. JOHNS COUNTY CITIZENS LAMENT THAT WE SEEM TO BE WITNESSING A SLIDE TOWARDS MEDIOCRITY AS EACH NEW PROJECT IS APPROVED, LARGELY BECAUSE PROJECT DEVELOPERS ATTEMPT TO SQUEEZE OUT THE LAST DOLLAR FROM THEIR EFFORTS WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE EFFECTS ON THE COMMUNITY AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE PROPOSED TOWNHOUSES ADJACENT TO PARKLAND PRESERVE, THEY NAMED THE PLAN TO MAINTAIN THE OVERALL CHARACTER OF THE STANDING TREES AND WETLANDS AND THE SURROUNDING BUFFERS ALONG WITH AMPLE PERIMETERS OF UNDISTURBED NATURAL HABITATS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN PURGED OF WILDLIFE.

THEY'LL DEVELOP APPROXIMATELY 50 ACRES OF THE OVERALL SITE AND LEAVE 53 ACRES UNDEVELOPED. THAT'S A GOOD THING, BUT IT'S NOT WHAT YOU DO, IT'S HOW YOU DO IT. THE LAYOUT FOR THE 295 TOWNHOMES INCLUDES A PORTION OF THE SITE CLOSE TO THE REAR YARDS OF APPROXIMATELY TEN HOMES.

THE BACK OF THE TWO STORY TOWNHOUSES WILL BE 45 FEET FROM THE BORDER. ON THE PARKLAND SIDE THE HOMES ARE SETBACK 45 FEET WITH 60 FEET OF UNDISTURBED FOREST FOR A TOTAL SETBACK OF 85 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. AGAIN, THIS IS COMPARED WITH THE 45- FOOT SETBACK AND BUFFER CURRENTLY SHOWN IN THE TOWNHOUSE PROJECT. WHEN THERE ARE 53 ACRES OF UNDEVELOPED LAND ON THIS SITE, THERE'S NO NEED FOR TWO STORY TOWNHOUSES TO BE CONSTRUCTED SO CLOSE TO THE TEN HOMES. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT SETBACKS AND BUFFER BE INCREASED TO 80 FEET ALONG THE PORTION OF THE COMMON BORDER NEAR THE TEN SPOONVILLE CIRCLE HOMES. THERE'S A SECTION OF ROAD WHICH

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IN PARKLAND THAT HAS NO SIDEWALK.

THAT SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE

PROJECT. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> MOST OF MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED, BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE BUFFER IN.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS THAT LIVE BACK THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF WILD ANIMALS IN THOSE WOODS. I LIVE RIGHT AT THE BEND THERE AND HAVE ONE OF THE SMALLEST BACKYARDS IN THE COMMUNITY. IT KILLS ME THAT I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE MUCH OF IT LEFT. WHERE DO YOU MEASURE THE DISTANCE FROM, THE BACK OF YOUR HOUSE TO THE WOODS, THE 165 FEET? WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM, THE BACK OF MY HOUSE?

>> IT'S FROM THE BACK OF YOUR PROPERTY

LINE. >> AM I GOING TO LOSE TREES? ARE THEY GOING TO CUT DOWN TREES?

>> THEY'RE NOT PLANNING ON CUTTING ANY TREES ON YOUR PROPERTY OR ANY TREES ON THE

BUFFER. >> THERE'S A POND BEHIND ME AS

WELL. >> NOT THEIR

INTENTION. >> SOMEONE SAID ABOUT TAKING AWAY THE ISLAND TO MAKE THE TURNING LANE IN.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I'M A RETIRED SCHOOL EDUCATOR.

I KNOW WHAT BUSES DO AND WHAT THEY SMELL LIKE.

SERIOUSLY, I DON'T WANT TO SMELL÷÷THAT AGAIN. THE TRAFFIC JAM TO GET IN OUR PLACE IS HORRIBLE. IF THE SCHOOL BUSES START DOING IT AND THE PEOPLE MOVING IN AND OUT OF THE COMMUNITY, IT'S GOING TO BE HORRENDOUS.

YOU CAN TAKE AWAY THAT ISLAND AND IT'S NOT A LOT TO DO THAT.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION ANYWAY. IT'S JUST A LITTLE MORE WORK TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE.

THAT'S ONE POINT. DID I HEAR THIS IS A -- IS THIS A FIVE- YEAR PROJECT?

>> I DON'T REMEMBER THE

TIMELINE. >> I THINK I HEARD THAT.

NOISE. A LONG TIME TO HEAR - I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION ON

THAT. >> I'LL HAVE THEM CLARIFY.

CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME?

>> ANN MARIE STONE, SPOONVILLE

CIRCLE. >> MS. STONE PUT HER TIME DOWN FOR MR. PARENT. ANYBODY THAT HAS WRITTEN TO GIVE TIME TO DESIGNATED SPEAKER SHOULD NOT SPEAK? THE DESIGNATED SPEAKER SHOULD BE SAYING EVERYTHING THEY WANT TO

SAY. >> IF YOU SIGNED FOR SOMEONE TO SPEAK FOR YOU, TECHNICALLY YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK.

ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? MR. HUNT? NO WORRIES.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. CHARLIE HUNT, MILLCREEK ESTATES.

COUPLE ISSUES HERE. THEY WANT TO TAKE 141,000 SQUARE FEET AND GIVE THAT UP FOR 295 APARTMENTS. WELL, MY MATH, 140,000 SQUARE FEET IS ROUGHLY TWO AND A HALF ACRES FOR THE 295 HOMES ON ROUGHLY 50 ACRES. BIG DIFFERENCE THERE.

MASSIVEDIFFERENCE. OKAY.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING. 669 APARTMENTS THAT THEY ARE THROWING IN AS THAT LIVE LOCAL WILD CARD.

IF THEY WENT THAT WAY, HONESTLY, IF THEY WANT TO PUT 669 HOMES ON THOSE 50 ACRES IT WOULD COST SO MUCH AND IT WOULD COST SO MUCH TO SELL THOSE PLACES TO COME OUT OF DEBT, IT COULDN'T BE VIABLE.

THAT IS JUST -- MIGHT AS WELL USE IT LIKE THE -- LIKE TITLE 210.

THAT LIVE LOCAL ACT WILD CARD THEY HAD IN THEIR BACK POCKET.

WE CAN DO THIS AND THIS AND IT GOT PASSED AND SOLD AFTERWARDS.

LIVE LOCAL, SMOKE AND MIRRORS. OKAY.

THE $5 MILLION TO DONATE FOR INCORPORATING TRANSPORTATION ISSUES BETWEEN 95 AND STATE ROAD 16, REALLY? THAT'S CHUMP CHANGE.

IT WOULD TAKE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS MORE ON TO THAT EVEN THOUGH THE HUDSON HIGHWAY WILL BE OPENED UP EVENTUALLY, BUT THAT WILL LET MORE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT BECAUSE WHEN THE MEGA WALMART GOES UP OVER THERE.

OKAY. THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES RIGHT THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING SOMETHING

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UP ON THE SIDE. IF WE CAN COME DOWN HERE AND SEE OPENING DAY 2021, THE OPENING DAY NUMBER FOR THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL WAS 1,281. THAT'S STUDENTS.

1,281. NOW THIS IS DIRECTLY FROM THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.

OPENING DAY 2025, 2,585 AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

CAN WE PLEASE FIND OUT IF THOSE NUMBERS THAT WERE PRESENTED EARLIER ARE LATE NUMBERS BECAUSE THIS IS THE ACTUAL ONE? LIKE I SAID, IT'S OFF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. 300 NUMBER DIFFERENCE.

>> ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

>> THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR SPEAKING AND THANK YOU FOR COMING UP HERE. I'LL ADDRESS SOME OF THE GENERAL QUESTIONS, IF YOU WILL, AND THEN THOSE PERTAINING TO TRANSPORTATION OR ANYTHING ABOUT THE DRI I'LL TURN THAT OVER.

THERE WAS SOME COMMENTARY ABOUT NOT WANTING TO SEE THIS PARCEL BE DEVELOPED. THIS PROJECT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN ONES YOU'RE PROBABLY USED TO SEEING.

THIS IS, AS WE SHOWED, A PROJECT WITH DEVELOPMENT

RIGHTS. >> IT'S A PROJECT THAT CURRENTLY -- A PROPERTY THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED USING ITS CURRENT ENTITLEMENTS.

WE'RE REQUESTING TO TAKE THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE ENTITLEMENTS AND BRING THOSE DOWN TO A MORE COMPATIBLE USE OF RESIDENTIAL IN THIS AREA. I'LL ADD DECEMBER A COUPLE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.÷÷I'LL START WITH THE BUFFER. SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP WANTING A CHAIN LINK FENCE ON THE BACK OF SOME OF THESE LOTS MAYBE IN THIS AREA HERE.

WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, ADDING A FENCE THERE.

IF THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT POTENTIAL RESIDENTS OF WHAT WOULD BE FUTURE COMMUNITY TRAVERSING THROUGH THAT SWAMP BUFFER AREA, IF IT PROVIDES THE RESIDENTS OF THAT COMMUNITY FURTHER ASSURANCE THAT THEY WOULD BE MORE SECURE AND WHAT HAVE YOU, CERTAINLY WE HAVE NO PROBLEM ACCOMMODATING THAT REQUEST. WHAT WE WOULD INTEND TO DO JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS HERE ON THE SPOT IS LOOK TO, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENT SOME SORT OF A CHAIN LINK FENCE WITHIN OUR BUFFER AREA SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT LIKELY WOULDN'T BE SEEN BY RESIDENTS OF EITHER SIDE OF THE PROJECT, PARKLAND PRESERVE OR THE TOWNHOME COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT PROBABLY SOMETHING LIKE A SIX- FOOT BLACK CHAIN LINK FENCE WOULD BE PROPERTY THERE AND WOULD HELP WITH WILDLIFE.

NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. WE CAN WORK ON STAFF WITH HOW WE BAKE THAT INTO THE FINAL PACKAGE.

I'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT THE BUMP OUT, BUT I WANT TO START BACK HERE ON THAT. THERE WAS SOME COMMENTARY ABOUT THE PART OF THIS PROPERTY ESSENTIALLY ABUTTING A COUPLE OF THE RESIDENCES OF PARKLAND IF PRESERVE. THAT STORY IS NOT SOMETHING WE PROPOSED. IT'S BY VIRTUE OF HOW THESE PROPERTIES WERE DEVELOPED. YOU CAN SEE OUR PARCELS HERE OUTLINED AS SUCH THERE. THEN YOU CAN SEE IN YELLOW HERE THERE IS A BLACK, YOU KNOW, HATCHED LINE THERE.

THAT WAS THE 85- FOOT BUFFER. THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THAT THERE WAS CONTEMPLATED FUTURE INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN PARCELS. AS PARKLAND PRESERVE HAS BEEN DEVELOPED, THAT POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE ACCESS HAS GONE AWAY.

WHAT WE'RE LEFT WITH -- I'LL SKIP A BUNCH OF SLIDES HERE SO BEAR WITH ME.

WHAT WE'RE LEFT WITH IS THIS LITTLE BUMP OUT HERE. YOU CAN SEE ON OUR MAP THAT WE HAVE SHOWN HERE WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING IN THAT AREA.

THAT IS CURRENTLY EXISTING AS VEGETATIVE BUFFER MUCH LIKE THE REST OF THE PARKLAND PRESERVE PROPERTY. UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S HOW THE PROPERTY LOOKS. TO OFFER SOME ASSURANCES TO THE RESIDENTS, WHEN WE PLAT THIS PROJECT, WE'LL PLAT THIS SQUARE PORTION THERE AND CONVERT IT. WE CAN COMMIT TO THAT,

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HOWEVER, THE AGENCY DEEMS REASONABLE.

WE DON'T HAVE THE INTENTION TO DEVELOP IN THAT AREA, CLEAR IT, WHAT HAVE YOU.

TO TALK ABOUT THE BUILD- OUT OF THE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY GET THROUGH A ZONING PROCESS IF WE WANT TO SEEK APPROVAL ON THIS, WHICH WE'RE DOING NOW. THAT GETS US THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR, ENGINEERING PERMITTING THROUGH THE MAJORITY OF NEXT YEAR.

PROBABLY LOGICAL TO SEE THIS STARTING AT THE END OF 2026 IN TERMS OF SITE DEVELOPMENT AND CERTAINY SALES AND CONSTRUCTION÷÷BILLION DOLLAR- OUT FOLLOWING THAT. I WILL ADDRESS SCHOOLS FOR A MOMENT. MR. HUNT BROUGHT UP A COUPLE FACTUAL DATA POINTS, IF YOU WILL. ALL THE INFORMATION WE REPRESENTED IN TERMS OF SCHOOL DATA WE TOOK FROM THE 2024/2025 ST. JOHNS COUNTY FIVE- YEAR WORK PLAN SUBMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION EVERY YEAR.

I'LL PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN HERE.

WE'LL SUBMIT THIS FOR THE RECORD.

IT'S PUBLIC RECORD. THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND DIVISION OF COMMUNITY PLANNING, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND OTHERS USE THE WORK PROGRAM INFORMATION FOR VARIOUS NEEDS INCLUDING FUNDING, PLANNING AS THE AUTHORITATIVE SOURCE.

WE'LL SUBMIT THIS FOR THE RECORD.

THAT'S THE BEST DATA WE COULD USE.

>> GARRETT ADDRESSED THE SCHOOL ITEMS. I'LL QUICKLY ADDRESS A COUPLE TRAFFIC ITEMS AND GO BACK TO THIS SLIDE HERE. SO A COUPLE THINGS TO ADDRESS ON THE TRAFFIC FRONT. I KNOW THERE'S THE QUESTION OF CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC. PARKLAND TRAIL, THIS ROAD ESSENTIALLY HAS BEEN DESIGNED AND BUILT AS A COLLECTOR. THERE ARE NO HOMES ON THIS THAT HAVE DRIVEWAYS FRONTING THE COLLECTOR. SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE WITH PARKLAND PRESERVE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC WOULD USE PARKLAND TRAIL TO COME UP TO THE ENTRANCE. AGAIN, THIS ROAD HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE THAT TYPE OF TRAFFIC. I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN THE REQUEST TO BASICALLY BUILD A LEFT TURN LANE IN THE MEDIAN.

IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION I ÷÷DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S NECESSARY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO CONVERT THE INNER LANE TO A LEFT TURN LANE AND THAT WILL COME OUT TO HERE.

IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE HONESTLY THE RESIDENT'S SLIDE WAS BETTER.

THERE ARE TWO INBOUND LANES THAT ULTIMATELY MERGE INTO A SINGLE LANE. THERE'S A SINGLE LANE THAT COMES INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE INTENTION IS FOR ALL CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC BASICALLY TO TURN LEFT INTO THE SITE AND WOULD STAGE WITHIN THE SITE. THERE'S NO INTENTION -- AGAIN, THERE'S NO INTENTION TO HAVE ANY DUMP TRUCKS, CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC ACTUALLY PARKED OUT OR SITTING ON PARKLAND TRAIL.

IT WOULD ALL BE TURNING LEFT FROM THE INSIDE LANE INTO THE SITE AND THEN THE OUTER INBOUND LANE WOULD BE UNOBSTRUCTED TO ALLOW INBOUND TRAFFIC.

LOOKING AT THE P.M. PEAK IN THE AFTERNOON, WHICH IS YOUR HIGHEST TIME OF DAY, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT INBOUND TO PARKLAND IS ROUGHLY 103 TRIPS OVER THE PEAK HOURS. YOU'RE LESS THAN TWO TRIPS A MINUTE. YOU'RE BETWEEN EVERY VEHICLE OVER 30 SECONDS. THAT IS A VOLUME OF TRAFFIC THAT CAN EASILY BE ACCOMMODATED IN THE OUTSIDE LANE. I SEE NO ISSUES WITH THAT BEING ABLE TO BE ACCOMMODATED. AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT, CERTAINLY WE'LL BE DOING THE RESTRIPING AND PUTTING DOWN THE LEFT TURN ONLY ARROWS INTO THE SITE.

I DID ALSO WANT TO MENTION -- I THINK I SKIPPED OVER IT.

THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE $5 MILLION AND IS IT ADEQUATE. I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE TRAFFIC SLIDE. HERE WE GO.

I JUMPED OVER THE FIRST BULLET AND DIDN'T MENTION THIS.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO MENTION THAT THIS DRI HAS A VERY ROBUST MITIGATION PROGRAM ON TRANSPORTATION.

WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THE INTERCHANGE COST, THE 16

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WIDENING, 20, $25 WITHOUT THE $5 MILLION INCLUDED THE DRI HAS SPENT THE EQUIVALENT OF $66 MILLION ON OFF- SITE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. THE $5 MILLION WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THAT. I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE EXCHANGE. THE EXCHANGE OF A LITTLE OF OVER 140,000 SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL FOR THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT EXCHANGE WAS DONE BASED ON TRIPS, PEAK HOUR TRIPS AND NOT ACREAGE.

AGAIN, I KNOW THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF IS IT A COUPLE ACRES OF INDUSTRIAL. IT'S NOT BASED ON ACREAGE.

IT'S 100% BASED ON THAT EXCHANGE OF EQUIVALENT TRIPS WHICH IS WHAT THAT EXCHANGE IS BASED ON. I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING THAT I HAD TO RESPOND TO.

>> I JUST HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL THING TO ADD.

THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT WATER AND SEWER.

WE DID CONSULT WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY UTILITY AND THEY PROVIDED US WITH CONFIRMATION.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY UTILITY WILL BE ABLE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITIES WITH THE ANTICIPATED DEMAND.

WE DID CONFIRM THERE'S THE CAPACITY AND THE AVAILABILITY OF THE UTILITIES.

IF YOU HAD ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR US.

>> THANK YOU. WE MIGHT HAVE SOME.

MR. LABANOWSKI?

>> WHERE DO I START? FIRST, LEGAL, THERE'S $5 MILLION GOING FOR THE TWELVE MILE SWAMP, CAN THAT BE EAR MARKED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE IGP INTERSECTION? I SAW DICK GOING IN AND

OUT. >> THE SHORT ANSWER IS LEGALLY, YES, IT CAN BE DONE. DID YOU DICK MAY NEED TO GIVE YOU SOME SPECIFICS.

>> SO THE MODIFICATION TO THE DRI IS EXPRESSLY TO ALLOW THOSE FUNDS TO BE UTILIZED WITHIN THOSE BOUNDS AND IGP WHICH DOES INCLUDE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE INTERCHANGE BEING CONTEMPLATED BY THE COUNTY.

>> THE QUESTION, CAN IT BE SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT INTERSECTION AND NOT ANYWHERE ELSE ON IGP?

>> IT COULD BE SHOULD THE APPLICANT CHOOSE TO DO THAT IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE DRI. STAFF WOULD SAY THAT LEAVING IT IN ITS CURRENT FORM IS PROBABLY BETTER BECAUSE IT AFFORDS FLEXIBILITY IF ANOTHER ENTITY CAME IN AND FULLY FUNDED THAT IMPROVEMENT.

THEN WE HAVE MONEY THAT COULDN'T BE USED ANYWHERE ELSE.

WE WOULD BE BACKING OURSELVES IN÷÷A CORNER.

I WOULD ADVISE TO NOT DO THAT ON THE OFF CHANCE THAT THAT MONEY CAN BE UTILIZED IN EXCESS SOMEWHERE ELSE.

>> TIMING- WISE OF THOSE FUNDS, ARE WE LOOKING UPFRONT OR ARE WE LOOKING AS OCCUPANCY?

>> THE DRI CONTEMPLATES THAT FUNDING BEING REQUIRED AT A CERTAIN THRESHOLD. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THIS DRI DOES NOT HAVE AVAILABLE IMPACT CREDITS.

YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, IT'S THAT APPLICANT'S DECISION OF WHEN THEY WOULD FUND THIS OR THE MASTER DRI KNOWING THERE ARE NO FUNDS AVAILABLE IN THAT CREDIT ACCOUNT, KNOWING THERE'S A REQUISITE PAYMENT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO SEE THAT MONEY BEFORE THE IMPACT FEES ARE DUE BECAUSE THOSE ARE CREDIBLE PAYMENTS TO THE COUNTY.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR THE $5 MILLION AS ÷÷FAR AS IMPLEMENTATION TOWARDS THE COUNTY.

>> THE REQUIREMENT IS NOT UNTIL 2038.

RIGHT NOW IT MAKES NO SENSE TO DONATE IT NOW FOR THAT PARTICULAR USE BECAUSE THE REST OF THE FUNDS AREN'T -- COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE THE REST OF

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THE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT INTERCHANGE. AS DICK MENTIONED, IT'S A POSSIBILITY BECAUSE THE DRI IS OUT OF IMPACTING CREDITS THAT IF THIS PROJECT GOES FORWARD, IT WILL GENERATE IMPACTING CREDITS. THE MASTER DEVELOPER CAN'T COLLECT THOSE UNLESS HE MADE THE DONATION.

THE END TIME IS 2038. IT COULD BE

SOONER. >> 2038 SCARES ME.

EVERYONE KNOWS THAT INTERSECTION IS A NIGHTMARE RIGHT NOW. I KNOW THE STATE IS WORKING ON

IT. >>

RIGHT. >> I KNOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS WORKING ON IT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL SPEED THEM UP TO DO THE IMPROVEMENTS IF THEY KNOW THAT MONEY IS COMING OR IN THE NEAR FUTURE, NOT 2038. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE THAT LONG TO BUILD IT.

>> I WILL NOTE THAT RIGHT NOW THE OBLIGATION UNDER THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT ORDER WON'T EVEN ALLOW THAT TO BE SPENT THERE. THIS MODIFICATION HAS TO BE APPROVED FOR THAT.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON COMMERCIAL, IS THAT STRICTLY FOR THAT SECTION OF PROPERTY THAT'S THERE NOW OR IS THAT USING THE ENTIRE DRI?

>> ENTIRE DRI.

>> THE NUMBERS ARE SKEWED THEN?

>> NO. IT'S A BUCKET OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.

WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER WAS APPROVED, IT CAN BE USED ANYWHERE IN THE DRI. HOWEVER, SIX MILE CREEK ONLY HAS TWO OR THREE COMMERCIAL PARCELS. NOT MUCH USED THERE.

THE REST IS ALL IN THIS PUD AND JUST BASED ON DEMAND AND WHERE THERE'S AVAILABLE PROPERTY TO BUILD COMMERCIAL OR OFFICE. THESE PARCELS WOULD BE AVAILABLE.

>> I APPRECIATE IT.

>> I THINK, IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION, THE 280,000 SQUARE FEET SHOWN IN THE TABLE WOULD BE THE AMOUNT THAT COULD BE BUILT ON THESE SPECIFIC

PARCELS. >> ON THAT SITE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO PUT THE TOWNHOMES?

>> YES, SIR, ON THAT SITE. THE DRI HAS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN 280,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL ENTITLEMENTS APPROVED, SOME OF WHICH ARE ALREADY BUILT IN THE SOUTHEAST QUAD.

>> I KNOW THE HOGS WERE BROUGHT UP AS AN ISSUE.

I KNOW THE DAMAGE HOGS CAN DO BECAUSE THEY TORE UP MY COMMUNITY. LITERALLY LIKE A BULLDOZER WENT THROUGH. THERE'S CONCERNS FOR THE HOME OWNERS THERE. IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY OF MITIGATION IF HOGS BECOME AN ISSUE WITH THE BUILDING?

>> I'LL ANSWER THAT. YOU KNOW, AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY REQUESTED A FENCE, WHICH I BELIEVE WE AGREED TO THAT WE WOULD IMPLEMENT THAT. I BELIEVE THAT PROBABLY RESOLVES PART OF THAT CONCERN. SECONDLY, WE AS PULTE, WE'RE A PROFESSIONAL HOME BUILDING COMPANY AND WE HAVE DEVELOPED OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE. WE HAVE A LIST OF QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS WE WORK WITH TO MANAGE OUR WILDLIFE ON OUR PROPERTIES SUCH AS BOAR.

WE WOULD IMPLEMENT THAT AS NECESSARY THROUGH THE HOA.

I WOULD NOTE -- CAN WE GO BACK TO THE RENDERINGS, THE SITE PLAN SLIDE?

>> THE MVP.

>> NO, THE COLORED VERSION. I THINK WHEN WE DEVELOP THIS PARCEL, THE DEVELOPABLE AREA OF THE PARCEL -- ONE MORE TO WHERE YOU WERE, PAST THIS ONE.

THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE'LL BE DEVELOPING IN THIS AREA. TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY IS FRANKLY THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF PRESERVATION.

IF WE'RE JUST THINKING OUT LOUD HERE, THE HOGS ARE LIKELY LIVING IN THAT AREA AND FUNNELING DOWN TO THE SOUTH THROUGH THIS PROPERTY TO ACCESS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS PARKLAND TRAIL.

I THINK THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY MOVES THAT LINE WHERE THEY COULD BE MOVING THROUGH TO THE NORTH AND BY IMPLEMENTATION OF A FENCE IT HELPS TO MITIGATE THAT ISSUE.

THAT'S THE BEST ANSWER WE CAN GIVE REGARDING

THAT. >> ONCE THE CONSTRUCTION STARTS -- I KNOW THE COMMUNITY WHERE I LIVE, WHEN THEY STARTED CONSTRUCTION OVER IN THE PARK THAT WAS PUT IN, WE ENDED UP WITH BLACK BEAR IN OUR COMMUNITY, HOGS IN OUR COMMUNITY. I KNOW IT DRIVES THE ANIMALS IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION.

>> I CERTAINLY AGREE. WITH THE LARGE PRESERVATION AREAS YOU HAVE OUT HERE, THAT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT WILDLIFE LOOKS TO INHABIT.

WITH THAT REMAINING, THE POSSIBILITY IS NOT ELIMINATED, BUT BEST MITIGATED BY US. LOADING AND UNLOADING EQUIPMENT. THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT EQUIPMENT IN AND OUT OF THE ENTRANCE.

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HOPEFULLY WE CAN PROHIBIT OFF LOADING EQUIPMENT OUT IN THE ROADWAY IN THAT TURN LANE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, TO WHERE THEY PULL UP INTO THE PROPERTY TO OFF LOAD. A LOT OF THE TRACTOR- TRAILER DRIVERS LIKE TO MAKE IT EASY.

LET'S MAKE IT EASY FOR THE HOME OWNERS ALREADY IN

THERE. >> I'LL ANSWER THE FIRST PART OF THIS BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE BILL WILL GO.

OUR STANDPOINT AS A HOME BUILDER AND PEOPLE WHO DEVELOP SITES LIKE THIS REGULARLY, CERTAINLY IT'S MOST EFFICIENT FOR US TO GET EQUIPMENT WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO. THERE'S AN EXISTING ACCESS POINT AND AN EXISTING CORRIDOR WHERE EQUIPMENT, VEHICLES, WHATEVER, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAGE IN THAT AREA.

I THINK I'LL LET BILL CHIME IN ON ANYTHING ELSE THERE.

IT'S CERTAINLY OUR INTENT TO MAKE SURE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THAT'S HAPPENING ON OUR

SITE. >> THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE OFF LOADING. THERE'S A LOT OF THAT IN THE VERY BEGINNING.

>> YES, SIR. TO SUPPORT WHAT GARRETT HAS SHARED, THE DEVELOPMENT STARTS ROUGHLY 200 FEET IN. WE HAVE THE EXISTING CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ON EACH SIDE. THE OTHER THING THAT'S A TRUE BENEFIT FOR US IS THE DRIVEWAY HAS ALREADY BEEN PAVED TO HERE. WE'RE ABLE TO BRING HEAVY VEHICLES IN ON THIS PAVED SURFACE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. THE INTENTION WOULD BE FOR HAVING THOSE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES TO GET IN AND DO THAT LOADING

AND UNLOADING. >> OKAY.

THE OTHER THING WAS THE FINGER, I CALL IT THE FINGER, THE PROPERTY WAS GOING TO BE A PREVIOUS ROADWAY.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE GROWTH IS ON THAT RIGHT NOW? IS THAT LOW VEGETATION OR TREED?

>> I'LL ANSWER THAT. THE VEGETATION THAT YOU SAW IN THE PHOTOS, IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE PHOTOS, PLEASE. THANK YOU.

THAT'S BACKWARDS. I'LL COMMENT HAVING BEEN OUT THERE A LOT OF TIMES. THAT ENTIRE AREA ALONG THAT BOUNDARY LINE IS ALL CONSISTENT LOOKING.

THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN WHAT THAT VEGETATION LOOKS LIKE COMPARED TO WHAT'S ON THE CDD'S PROPERTY. GO TO THE AERIAL VIEW PLEASE.

THERE YOU GO. YOU CAN SEE OFF TO THE RIGHT END OF THE SCREEN THERE, THAT HOME THAT HAS THE PATIO IN THE BACK, ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT, THAT'S GENERALLY THE LOT THAT ABUTS THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT THE TREES AND VEGETATION WHAT HAVE YOU IS VERY SIMILAR IF NOT THE SAME.

>> I WAS UNABLE TO GET IN THERE BECAUSE YOU GOT IT CHAINED OFF.

>> SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME. I WOULD HAVE TAKEN

YOU. >> AND NO TRESPASSING SIGNS, SO I ADHERED TO THEM.

>> OH, THANK YOU.

>> I WISH I COULD HAVE GONE UP THERE WITH A FOUR- WHEEL DRIVE. THAT ANSWERS ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MS. SPIEGEL?

>> WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I WAS SPENDING HOURS READING THROUGH THIS THING? THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION. IT'S COMPLICATED, THESE DRIS.

IT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T DEAL WITH EVERY DAY.

THERE'S A LOT THERE. ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD FLYING ALL OVER THE PLACE GOT WRAPPED UP. WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING ENTITLED, I ALWAYS TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT BENEFITS THE COUNTY AND THE PEOPLE AND I THINK IT'S A PLUS FOR THE COUNTY. ALTHOUGH THAT AREA IS A MESS AND WE WOULD LOVE NOTHING ELSE TO GO IN THERE, BUT WE'RE TAKING AWAY WHAT'S ENTITLED AND BUILT INTO THE NUMBERS. ALL THOSE TRAFFIC NUMBERS ARE ALREADY BUILT IN. I WANTED TO THANK YOU.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION. IT WAS A HEAVY

LIFT. >> THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH

US. >> I LIKE THE BUMP OUT AND GIVING IT TO THE NEIGHBORS. I LIKE THAT YOU'RE COMMUNICATING. THAT'S A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

THERE'S A LOT OF TOWNHOMES YOU DRIVE IN AND THERE'S APARTMENT BUILDINGS.

IN IS NOT REALLY A DIFFERENT THING.

THE BUILDINGS ARE AROUND THE SAME SIZE AS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. SOME PEOPLE HAVE FENCES BACK THERE. THERE'S ALWAYS AN OPTION THAT PEOPLE CAN FENCE IN THEIR PROPERTY.

THERE'S A GREAT BUFFER. I THINK IT'S

WONDERFUL. >> I WOULD NOTE THE HEIGHT OF THESE TOWNHOMES IS LESS THAN A SINGLE FAMILY.

THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GO TO 35. WE'RE PROPOSING 25.

>> I THINK THAT'S GOOD. OKAY.

>> MR. OLSON?

>> YES. I MAY BE THE ONLY PERSON ON THIS PANEL THAT LIVES IN A TOWNHOUSE. SO I -- I'M LOOKING AT YOUR SITE PLAN. I'M REACTING TO IT A

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BIT. IT LOOKS MORE LIKE AN ENGINEERING EXERCISE TO SEE HOW MANY UNITS YOU CAN GET ON THE BUILDABLE AREA RATHER THAN A -- I HOPE IT'S NOT A FINAL DESIGN. I JUST MAKE THAT POINT BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THE UNITS YOU HAVE ALONG THE PERIMETERS ARE MAINLY THE 18- FOOT WIDE UNITS.

WHAT YOU REALLY HAVE ARE LONG VISTAS OF A FACADE WALL, OF A SINGLE- CAR GARAGE AND ENTRANCE DOOR WITH VERY LITTLE BREAKS BETWEEN YOUR BUILDINGS. THE TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT I LIVE IN HAS MORE SPACE BETWEEN THE GROUPINGS OF TOWNHOUSES AND TWO AND THREE UNITS PER BUILDING.

NOT NECESSARILY THAT YOU MAY BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT, BUT I WOULD -- I WOULD -- I WORRY THAT TOWNHOUSES ARE NOT GOING TO BE THOUGHT OF AS BEING A GRACIOUS WAY TO LIVE IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE THIS JAMMED TOGETHER WITHOUT A LOT OF MORE BREAKS.

THAT'S JUST A REACTION I'M SHARING.

I THINK OVERALL THE RATIONALE BEHIND THIS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE÷÷AS FAR AS UNDERSTANDING THE HISTORY OF THE DRI, WHICH IS SORT OF A COMPLEX AND LONG- TERM HISTORY. BUT I'M -- I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY FINAL THOUGHTS ABOUT THE SITE PLAN.

>> THANK YOU. I'LL ANSWER THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE MAXIMUM OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS 295 TOWNHOMES. THAT'S A MAXIMUM NUMBER.

GIVEN THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE ENTITLEMENTS ON THIS PROPERTY, JUST SPEAKING FRANKLY, THE VALUATION OF A PROPERTY LIKE THAT IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH A USE THAT WOULD YIELD SOMETHING MORE INTENSE LIKE COMMERCIAL OR OFFICE. AS A HOME BUILDING COMPANY COMING IN HERE AND LOOKING TO BRING COMPATIBILITY TO THIS AREA, WE START WORKING BACKWARDS FROM THE MOST INTENSE THING CURRENTLY ALLOWABLE ON THIS PROPERTY DOWN TO A LESSER INTENSE USE AND IN ORDER FOR THIS TO BE EQUITABLE FOR THE LAND OWNER, IT HAS TO YIELD SOME DENSITY THAT MIGHT BE HIGHER THAN SOMETHING LIKE SINGLE FAMILY. I WOULD NOTE THAT WE'RE STILL AT 5. 8 UNITS AN ACRE WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THE ALLOWABLE 8 UNITS PER ACRE.

WE'VE DONE THAT BY OFFERING A VARIETY OF SIZES THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED AND WE'RE BEHOLDEN TO MEETING OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LDC AND WE'VE DONE THAT AND PROVIDE AMENITIES DOWN THERE, SOME GREEN SPACE ON THE WEST END OF THE SITE AND THEN USING THE EXISTING PONDS WE HAVE TO ACTIVATE THOSE.

>> DR. HILSENBECK?

>> WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I DO SYMPATHIZE WITH THE ADJACENT LAND OWNERS.

IF YOU KNOW ME OR WATCHED ANY PREVIOUS BZA MEETINGS THAT I'VE OFTEN BEEN VERY CRITICAL OF PROJECTS. I'VE LOOKED FOR FLAWS IN THOSE PROJECTS OR WAYS THEY CAN BE MADE BETTER.

I DON'T HESITATE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THEM IF I FEEL THEY'RE NOT DOING WHAT THEY SHOULD UNDER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE COMP PLAN. LOOKING BACK AT 1991 ST. JOHNS DRI, GOING BACK TO '86, THEY HAVE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ENTITLEMENTS ON THIS PROPERTY AND THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE LETTER OF THE LAW ON THIS. OUR HANDS ARE TIED REALLY ON THIS. I DON'T SEE ANYWAY WE CANNOT APPROVE THIS GIVEN EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE.

THEY REALLY CROSSED ALL THE TS AND DOTTED THE IS HERE.

THEY'VE BEEN AMENABLE TO ADDRESSING YOUR CONCERNS.

THE BUMP OUT, DONATING THAT TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE 180- FOOT LONG FENCE, THEY AGREED TO THAT BASICALLY.

YOU KNOW, I COULD GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS LIKE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC. I BROUGHT UP SEVERAL YEARS AGO ON SEVERAL PROJECTS CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC.÷÷YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO WAY TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT SADLY IN THE COUNTY IN THE LDC.

THERE'S NO WAY TO DO IT. I WAS SHOUTED DOWN A COUPLE TIMES BRINGING UP CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC. IT JUST DOESN'T PLAY INTO OUR DELIBERATIONS OR MEANINGFUL DECISIONS UP HERE.

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I ADDRESSED, BUT IT CAN'T.

THE FACT THAT THERE ARE HOGS AND BEARS AND SNAKES OUT THERE, I KNOW WHAT PINEY WOOD ROUTERS -- HOGS -- CAN DO TO PROPERTY. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO LIVE IN A GREAT AREA OF WILDLIFE OUT THERE FRANKLY. THEY'RE EXCEEDING THE BUFFERS ON THE PROJECT.

THINK THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH THAT.

THE I-95 RODE NOISE, I'M SURE IT'S A PROBLEM, BUT THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW. THE WATER PRESSURE DROP, I CAN SYMPATHIZE WITH THAT AS WELL.

AT MY HOUSE, I LIVE ON ANASTACIA ISLAND, I GET WATER PRESSURE DROPS AND SOMETIMES IT'S REALLY STRONG, SOMETIMES IT'S VERY WEAK.

I CAN SYMPATHIZE WITH WATER PRESSURE DROPS.

NOT SURE WHAT THE COUNTY CAN DO ABOUT THAT.

THE TRAFFIC, BILL IS A GREAT PERSON TO DO THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING. I TRUST HIM AND WHAT HE'S PUT FORTH TO US PREVIOUSLY. THEY'VE MITIGATED AS WELL AS THEY CAN FOR THAT. THAT $5 MILLION, I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE UNTIL 2038 AS YOU SAID TO PAY THAT MONEY. THE SOLUTION THAT THEY AND THE STAFF HAVE COME UP WITH IS ÷÷BETTER THAN TRYING TO WIDEN IGP THROUGH TWELVE MILE SWAMP.

THAT'S FAR PREFERABLE. IF THEY WERE GOING TO TOUCH THAT, I WOULD BE UP IN ARMS OVER THAT ROAD WIDENING.

INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF, BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST SOLUTION AT THIS LOCATION.

BELIEVE ME, WHEN I GO ACROSS THERE TO TRY TO GO TO COSTCO, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TRAFFIC.

SO I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT. THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT THE CONVERSION FROM INDUSTRIAL AND OFFICE, MEDICAL TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOUSES AND IT'S BASED ON TRAFFIC. , NOT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDINGS THEY COULD BUILD. THAT'S BEEN COVERED.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SUPPORT THIS.

THEY'VE DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB PROPOSING THIS AND FOLLOWING THE LETTER OF THE LAW AND THE LDC.

I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR BOTH MEASURES.

>> MR. GREENE?

>> LET'S MOVE A MOTION THEN. RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF THE DRI MODIFICATION 2025-01 NEQ TOWNHOMES BASED ON FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT THAT IN OUR STAFF

REPORT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MR. GREENE. SECOND?

>> SECOND BY MR. .

>> SECOND BY MR. LABANOWSKI. ANY DISCUSSION?

>> DO YOU KNOW THE HEIGHT OF THE DLP BUILDING OUT THERE, THE

HEADQUARTERS? >> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION UNLESS BILL DOES.

>> THAT'S PRETTY TALL. BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT COULD GO BACK IN THERE BY RIGHTS RIGHT NOW, CORRECT?

>> I BELIEVE THAT'S IN THE GOLF WOOD COMMUNITY.

I BELIEVE IT'S AN ALLOWABLE HEIGHT OF 65.

IN OUR CASE IT'S ALLOWABLE TO, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, 100 FOR COMMERCIAL AND 140 FOR OFFICE.

>> A LOT TALLER THAN THAT BUILDING THAT'S OUT THERE?

>> CERTAINLY, YES, SIR.

>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

THAT MOTION PASSES 6-0.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE MORE MOTION. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR ITEM 5?

>> MADAM CHAIR, MOTION TO RECOMMEND MAJMOD 2025- 02 BASED ON THE SIX FINDINGS IN THE STAFF

REPORT. >> MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MR. GREENE, SECOND BY ÷÷MR. LABANOWSKI.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU, GUYS. APPRECIATE IT.

[6. SUPMAJ 2025-09 Woodlawn Road Veterinary Office. Request for a Special Use Permit, pursuant to Section 2.03.41 of the Land Development Code, to allow for a Veterinary Office/Animal Hospital in Open Rural (OR) zoning, specifically located at 1751 and 1771 Woodlawn Road.]

THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING.

>>> ON TO THE LAST AGENDA ITEM. ANY EX PARTE? MR. LABANOWSKI?

>> AS ALWAYS, I VISITED THE SITE.

>> MS. SPIEGEL?

>> I DID A SITE VISIT ALSO.

>> MR. GREENE?

>> I ALSO VISITED THE SITE MANY TIMES. I DRIVE BY IT ALL THE TIME.

>> MR. OLSON?

>> SITE VISIT ON SEPTEMBER 30TH -- AUGUST 30TH.

SORRY.

>> THANK YOU. MR. WESTER?

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