Aug 21, 2025 Planning and Zoning Agency

>> YES. I MADE A SITE VISIT ON THE 15TH.

>> MR. OLSEN?

>> ANYONE ELSE?

>> I DID A SITE VISIT ALSO.

>> ALL RIGHT. I APOLOGIZE.

>> OH, NO PROBLEM. MY NAME IS TRACY SMITH.

MY PROPERTY IS AT 1088 WEST 15TH STREET. AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL TIME THIS AFTERNOON. GIVE ME A SECOND TO GET UP TO HOW TO PROPERLY DO THIS, WHICH DIRECTION THE SLIDES ARE GOING IN.

OKAY. WE'RE REQUESTING A SPECIAL PERMIT. AND THE ACTUAL PROPERTY ISIS HERE. I'M NOT USED TO ALL THIS NICE TECHNOLOGY THAT LETS YOU DRAW ON IS THE PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.

IT'S ON THE CORNER OF 15TH AND CLAY.

AND THIS IS A ZONING VIEW OF THE SAME PROPERTY.

MIXED USE AND RESIDENTIAL. OKAY.

THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU GET AN OVERVIEW, BASICALLY IS A NICE LOT WITH LOTS OF TREES, OAK TREES AND WHATNOT. AND LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF TRADITIONAL ST. AUGUSTINE. THE LAST PART, WHICH IS THE SITE PLAN, IS NOT ON HERE. SO THE SITE PLAN IS GOING TO BE RIGHT HERE ON THE OVERHEAD. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST REALLY BRIEFLY, THIS IS THE DRAIN FIELD RIGHT BACK HERE. THE UNIT IS GOING TO BE HERE FACING EAST AND WEST.

AND THIS IS CLAY STREET AND 15TH STREET. AND THIS WILL BE A DRIVEWAY.

ANY QUESTIONS?

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT? MR. OLSON.

PRESS YOUR BUTTON. IT'S COMING.

>> MR. SMITH.

>> JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I NOTICED THAT THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDINGS HAD PRIMARILY SITE- BUILT HOMES INCLUDING ONE THAT LOOKS VERY NEW, A TWO- STORY THAT'S ON THE ADJACENT SIDE --

>> SO THE NORTH SIDE.

>> YEAH. JUST ABOVE YOUR DRAIN FIELD.

SO YOU'VE CONFIRMED THAT YOU'RE DOING A DOUBLE WIDE WITH A

SLOPED ROOF. >> WELL, IT'S NOT -- I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD. FINISH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

>> WILL IT BE ON A PERMANENT FOUNDATION?

>> NO, IT WILL NOT BE ON A -- ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT A SLAB

FOUNDATION? >>

YES. >> NO, IT WILL NOT BE ON A SLAB FOUNDATION. IT WILL BE ON A REINFORCED, RAISED KIND OF FOUNDATION.

>> WHAT TYPE OF SUPPORT WILL THE STRUCTURE HAVE?

>> I'D BE GUESSING. BUT WHEN YOU SAY SUPPORT --

>> WELL, WHAT WILL BE -- BETWEEN THE ACTUAL -- WHAT'S BETWEEN THE ACTUAL OCCUPIED FLOORFLOOR GROUND AREA THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE --

>> IF I'M CORRECT, BLOCK REINFORCEMENT WITH SOME SORT OF -- SOME SORT OF SUPPORT GOING BETWEEN THE BLOCKS.

>> OKAY. JUST AS A SIDE, THE REASON I'M ASKING SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS IS THAT A MANUFACTURED -- PREMANUFACTURED HOME, IF IT'S TREATED IN CERTAIN WAYS THEY'RE NOT -- I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE ENVIRONMENT

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RELATIVE TO ANY DIMINISHED VALUE OF SURROUNDING SITE- BUILT HOMES. AND THE TYPICAL THING IS THAT IF IT'S TREATED -- IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS IF IT'S TREATED LIKE WITH A LANDSCAPING AND AROUND THE FOUNDATION, BUFFERING, THAT IT GENERALLY DOES NOT IN MOST CASES HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT DEPRECIATION OF SURROUNDING PROPERTIES FROM A VALUE STANDPOINT.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU AS TO HOW THE FOUNDATION IS TREATED AND THE LANDSCAPING AROUND IT.

AND I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION IS NOT A PHYSICAL ONE, BUT WILL THIS STRUCTURE BE TREATED AS A LICENSED MOBILE HOME OR AS PART THE AD VALOREM VALUE OF THE

PROPERTY? >> THAT LAST LINE AGAIN.

A LICENSED MOBILE HOME --

>> WILL THE STRUCTURE BE TREATED AS A LICENSED MOBILE HOME OR WILL IT BE TREATED FOR TAXATION PURPOSES AS A PART OF THE AD VALOREM, THE VALUE -- TAXABLE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY? FOR COUNTY TAX REVENUE.

>> I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THETHE PROBABLY IN THE WAY YOU'RE ASKING IT.

>> OKAY. MAYBE I'M NOT ASKING IT

CORRECTLY. >> ARE YOU ASKING IF HE'S GOING TO PAY PROPERTY TAXES ON HIS

MOBILE HOME? >> YES.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW, MOBILE HOMES ARE GENERALLY TAXED DIFFERENTLY THAN SITE- BUILT STRUCTURES.

>> MR. MATOVINA.

>> MAYBE SOMEONE ON THE PANEL HERE -- %-Ú LITTLE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.

SO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ERECTING A MOBILE HOME AND THERE ARE CONDITIONS TO THIS ORDINANCE ARE THAT THE TOWING GEAR BE REMOVED.

SO BASICALLY YOU HAVE THE UNDERSTRUCTURE OF THE MOBILE HOME TYPICALLY SITTING ON PIERS THAT ARE ON A FOOTER.

THE ACTUAL UNDERNEATH OF THAT MOBILE HOME, THEY ACTUALLY CREATE A LITTLE CREST OF DIRT UNDER IT SO THAT WATER DOESN'T GATHER UNDER IT BECAUSE THAT USED TO BE A PROBLEM. AND THEN OUR CODE TYPICALLY REQUIRES SKIRTING AROUND IT SO THAT YOU CAN'T SEE THE UNDERBELLY OF IT, SO TO SPEAK. THERE IS NO NECESSARILY ABOVE AND BEYOND LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT IF YOU WERE TO SEE THE WAY IT'S SECURED TO THE GROUND, ABOUT EVERY THREE FEET THERE'S THESE SCREWS THAT LONG THAT THEY SCREW INTO THE GROUND WITH A MACHINE AND THEN THAT'S ATTACHED TO A STRAP TO THE UNDERBELLY OF THE MOBILE HOME AND IT WORKS PRETTY WELL. WE HAVE TWO OF THOSE ON OUR PROPERTY.

>> OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT DETAIL.

I GUESS -- WELL, I GUESS WE DON'T -- I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE HOW IMPORTANT FROM OUR STANDPOINT IS THE TAX SITUATION.

OH. >> THE MOBILE HOME IS CONSIDERED PERSONAL PROPERTY. SO IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO REAL ESTATE TAXES WHEN IT'S AFFIXED TO THE GROUND IN THAT FASHION. THE GROUND IS STILL TAXED, WHATEVER THE LOT IS WORTH, BUT NOT THE MOBILE HOME.

>> OKAY. I GUESS I'M MOST THEN CONCERNED THAT THE FOUNDATION AREA AND THE SITE IS PROPERLY LANDSCAPED TO NOT GIVE THE APPEARANCE TO THE OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD OF ANYTHING THAT WOULD DIMINISH THE IMMEDIATE ADJACENT SITE- BUILT THE VERY NEW ONE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THETHE NORTH. AND AS I ASK THAT QUESTION I RECOGNIZE THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DOES HAVE MOBILE HOMES ON SEVERAL LOTS BUT IT ALSO HAS A NUMBER OF NEW SITE- BUILT CONSTRUCTION HOMES HAPPENING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH LOOKS LIKE A SUBSTANTIAL NEW INVESTMENT HAPPENING. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE FOR LANDSCAPING TO MAKE THIS PROPERTY BLEND IN MORE WITH THE SITE-BUILT HOMES THAT IMMEDIATELY SURROUND IT.

>> ACTUALLY, I PICKED THE HOME PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN. IT IS A MODULAR.

SO IT'S GOING TO LOOK SOMEWHAT LIKE A MOBILE HOME.

BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE A PORCH. IT'S GOING TO BE LANDSCAPED.

IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE A SMALL -- ALMOST LIKE SOMEONE WOULD CALL IT A WEEKENDER, BUT IT'S JUST A SMALL FRAME HOME, UNDER 1,000 SQUARE FEET. SO MY GOAL IS TO MAKE IT LOOK AS BLENDED WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS POSSIBLE JUST FOR THE VALUE'S SAKE AND FOR PROPERTIES THAT I HAVE IN

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THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I WANT TO BUILD TOO.

SO IT DOES ME GOOD TO MAKE SURE IT LOOKS PRESENTABLE.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> MR. LABANOWSKI?

>> JUST REAL QUICK, PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS A MOBILE HOME ON THAT PROPERTY?

>> CORRECT.

>> NOW THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL TREE THAT SETS RIGHT THERE.

IS THAT GOING TO STAY?

>> THAT BIG OAK TREE ON THE

CORNER? >> YES.

>> THAT'S ALL I NEED TO KNOW. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> MR. GREEN?

>> I WAS WAITING TO MAKE A MOTION AS SOON AS WE HAVE --

>> PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AND ALSO UNDER PAGE 6 ITEM D UNDER THE SECTION 2.03. 06 IT TALKS ABOUT THE EXTERIOR SKIRTING. I THINK SOME OF THE QUESTION'S BEEN ASKED PRETTY MUCH ON PAGE 6 OF OUR STAFF REPORT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBERNUMBER 1? SEEING NONE WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. MR. GREEN?

>> LET ME GET BACK TO WHERE THE MOTION -- HERE WE GO.

WE. MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUPMIN2025- 01 THE SMITH MOBILE HOME BASED ON EIGHT FINDINGS OF FACTS AND TEN CONDITIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED IN OUR STAFF

REPORT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY DR. HILSENBECK. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION PASSES 7-0.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[2. SUPMAJ 2025-08 Cheerworks. Request for a Special Use Permit, pursuant to Section 2.03.43 of the Land Development Code, to allow for Commercial Recreation in Industrial Warehousing (IW) zoning, specifically located at 501 Marshall Circle Units 505 & 506.]

>> THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> YOU TOO. ITEM NUMBER 2, WOULD THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME FORWARD? AND IS THERE ANY EX PARTE? MR. LABANOWSKI.

>> I VISITED THE SITE.

>> MISS SPIEGEL?

>> YES, MADAM CHAIR, I VISITED THE SITE ALSO.

>> MR. OLSON?

>> I VISITED THE SITE AND THEN I HAD QUESTIONS AND CONTACTED MISS WRENCH ABOUT MY QUESTIONS.

>> ANYBODY ELSE? MISS FRENCH?

>> HI. MY NAME IS JERRICA.

SORRY, I'M REALLY NERVOUS. I'M AT 117 BROOKFALL DRIVE.

AND I'M HERE TODAY TO REQUEST AN AAPPROVAL FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO RUN CHEERWORKS OFF DOBBS ROAD.

SO WE ARE CHEERWORKS. WE WANT TO BE LOCATED AT 501 MARSHALL CIRCLE IN SUITES 505 AND 506.

TO THE RIGHT IS OUR LOGO AND OUR COLORS ARE TEAL, PINK AND GOLD. CHEERWORKS IS A YOUTH- FOCUSED ATHLETIC FACILITY DEDICATED TO CHEERLEADING, TUMBLING AND PERFORMANCE SKILLS. WE HAVE PROGRAMS FOR AGES 3 TO 18. OUR TUMBLE CLASSES ARE FOR ALL SKILL LEVELS.

WE FOCUS ON SKILLS, TEAMWORK AND CONFIDENCE.

WE HAVE AWAY FAMILY- FRIENDLY INDOOR- ONLY FACILITY.

AND ALL OF OUR TEAMS ARE LED BY TRAINED, BACKGROUND- CHECKED COACHES. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF 501 MARSHALL CIRCLE. THE CIRCLE IN RED IS WHERE 505 AND 506 ARE LOCATED.

TO THE RIGHT ON THE SCREEN I DID PUT IN OUR HOURS OF OPERATION. WE ARE 3:00 TO 9:00 P.M.

MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. SATURDAYS 9:00 A.M. TO 9:00 P.M.

AND SUNDAYS BY APPOINTMENTAPPOIN TMENT ONLY.

THERE ARE MOST -- OUR MOST NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES ARE CLOSED DURING OUR PEAK HOURS, REDUCING PARKING AND TRAFFIC IMPACT.

I DID PUT ABOUT THREE BUSINESSES UP THERE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND LOOKS LIKE ALL OF THEM ARE CLOSED SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

AM I ALLOWED TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT?

>> SURE.

>> THERE ARE NINE BUSINESSES IN MARSHALL CIRCLE.

I ONLY PULLED UPUP THREE. FOUR BUSINESSES CLOSE BETWEEN 3:00 P.M. AND 5:00 P.M. AND FIVE BUSINESSES CLOSE BETWEEN 5:00 AND 6:00 P.M. JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IN THERE. SORRY. HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE FRONT OF 505 MARSHALL CIRCLE.

WE HAVE TEN DEDICATED SPOTS -- SORRY, SPOTS FOR CHEERWORKS.

WE ARE A DROP-OFF- ONLY FACILITY, SO MOST PARENTS DROP OFF THEIR ATHLETES AND THEN RETURN LATER, MINIMIZING THE PARKED CARS.

IT'S REALLY JUST GOING TO BE US STAFF IN THERE.

OH, YEAH, SORRY, WE HAVE TEN ON- SITE SPACES DEDICATED FOR CUSTOMERS AND STAFF USE.

WE DO HAVE STAGGERED CLASS TIMES. SO IT LIMITS OVERLAPPING THE DROP-OFF AND THE PICKUP.

WE DO UNDERSTAND THERE ARE OTHER BUSINESSES THERE.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT HOGGING UP THE LANE. WE DO HAVE EVENING PEAK HOURS.

SO THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES ARE CLOSED, ENSURING AMPLE AVAILABLE PARKING. HERE IS ANOTHER AERIAL VIEW WITH THE -- SORRY. THIS IS THE WAY THAT THE PARENTS WILL BE DIRECTED TO USE THE TRAFFIC FLOW FOR DROP- OFF

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AND PICKUP TO ALSO AVOID THE CONGESTION. THEY WILL BE DROPPING OFF THEIR KIDS ON THE RIGHT SIDE AND CIRCLING RIGHT OUT.

THIS IS A GOOGLE SEARCH I DID. THIS IS FOR CHEER GYMS IN ST.

AUGUSTINE. UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT FOR THE KIDS. WHEN I LOOKED UP THE CLOSEST ONES I HAD SPARK ATHLETICS, WHICH IS ABOUT 14 MILES AWAY. ZONE CHEER IS 19 MILES NORTH.

AND IF YOU WANT TO GO SOUTH, THE NEXT CLOSEST GYM IS IN PALM COAST AND THAT'S 23 MILES AWAY. I BELIEVE CHEERWORKS IS FILLING A LOCAL NEED. THERE ISN'T A DEDICATED CHEER TUMBLING FACILITY CURRENTLY EXISTING IN THIS PART OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. LIKE I SAID EARLIER THE NEAREST COMPARABLE GYMS ARE 14 TO 23 MILES AWAY, CREATING BARRIERS FOR MANY FAMILIES. THEY'RE DRIVING TO JACKSONVILLE. THEY'RE DRIVING TO DAYTONA, ORLANDO. WE CAN HAVE THEM RIGHT HERE AT HOME. WE HAVE LIMITED LOCAL ACCESS TO SAFE EQUIPPED TRAINING SPACES FOR YOUTH ATHLETICS.

IT'S VERY HARD TO COME ACROSS A PRACTICE FACILITY FOR KIDS.

WE BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE A BENEFIT FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE PROVIDING A SAFE SUPERVISED ENVIRONMENT FOR CHILDREN AND TEENS AFTER SCHOOL AND ON WEEKENDS.

SORRY. WE'RE ENCOURAGING PHYSICAL FITNESS, DISCIPLINE, TEAMWORK AND CONFIDENCE. WE'RE CREATING LOCAL PART- TIME JOBS AND SUPPORTING NEARBY BUSINESSES THROUGH INCREASED TRAFFIC. AND WE'RE STRENGTHENING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THROUGH EXHIBITIONS, OPEN HOUSES AND PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES.

WE ARE COMMITTED TO BEING A POSITIVE AND RESPECTFUL NEIGHBOR IN ST. AUGUSTINE. WE WILL BE OPERATING IN A WAY THAT IS SAFE, ORGANIZED AND COMMUNITY-FOCUSED. AND WE WILL BE PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUTH TO GROW, LEARN AND SUCCEED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? MR. MATOVINA.

>> STAFF HAS SUGGESTED THAT THIS, IF APPROVED, WOULD NOT BE BE TRANSFERRABLE AS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS. IS THAT A CONCERN AT ALL TO YOU? WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD BE TAKING OVER THE BUSINESS.

>> NO, SIR.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 2? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'RE BACK INTO THETHE AGENCY FOR COMMENT.

>> PLEASE, MA'AM.

>> YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

>> YOU DID A GREAT JOB. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT CHEERWORKS, IT'S OBVIOUS YOU'RE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, AND I THINK THE LOCATION IS GOOD ALSO. IT IS A LITTLE TUCKED AWAY SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE JUST RANDOM TRAFFIC GOING BY, PUTTING THE KIDS IN HARM'S WAY. I THINK IT'S GREAT, AND I DON'T FLOW.

I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION IF ANYBODY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO

SAY. >> I WILL MAKE THE COMMENT, MY DAUGHTER GOES TO ZONE AND IT'S PACKED TO THE BRIM WITH PARENTS AND KIDS COMING FROM AIN'T AUGUSTINE.

SO IT WILL BE A NICE NEED IN THAT AREA.

>> THANKS. IT'S A GOOD THING.

GOOD THING FOR THE KIDS. ANYTHING FOR THE KIDS TO DO I

LOVE. >> YES.

THAT'S THE GOAL.

>> OKAY. ANYWAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUPMAJ 2025- 08 CHEERWORKS BASED UPON EIGHT FINDINGS OF FACT AND TEN CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE

STAFF REPORT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> MR. OLSON, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

>> NO, I WASWAS --

>> HE WAS QUICKER. ALL RIGHT.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU, MISS WRENCH.

[3. SUPMAJ 2025-10 SEA Community Help Resource Center Expansion. Request to revise a previously approved Special Use Permit (SUPMAJ 2022-11), allowing a Resource Center in Residential, Single Family (RS-3) zoning, to add four (4) new lots and a storage building to the proposed project boundary, specifically located at 6284 Armstrong Road.]

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

>> ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3. WOULD THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME FORWARD? AND IS THERE ANY EX PARTE? MR. LABANOWSKI.

>> I DID DO A SITE VISIT.

>> MISS SIEGEL?

>> YES, I DID A SITE VISIT. HAD A LITTLE CONVERSATION WITH A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORS, A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH MALINDA PEEPLES, AND THEN JUST HAD AN IN- PERSON CONVERSATION WITH MISS PEEPLES AS WELL.

>> SITE VISIT ON AUGUST 17TH. AND I BICYCLE THROUGH THAT AREA REGULARLY.

>> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. KAREN TAYLOR.

I HAVE A NEW ADDRESS FOR YOU. IT'S 18 NORTH ST. AUGUSTINE BOULEVARD. THAT'S ST. AUGUSTINE, 32080.

ANYWAY, I JUST MOVED INTO MY OFFICE TO MY HOUSE. AND MALINDA AND I ARE JUST KIND OF HERE TO -- AND THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERKILL OF A POWERPOINT.

I'VE GOT TO GRAB THAT. I KNOW MOST OFOF YOU THIS

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THE LAST TIME, SO YOU KIND OF KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING ON IT.

SO THIS IS THE REQUEST TO REVISE AND ADD TO THAT PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SPECIAL USE THAT PROVIDED FOR THE RESTORATION AND RENOVATION OF THAT HOME WHICH WAS CONSIDERED HISTORIC, BUT IT'S BASICALLY A RANCH- STYLE HOUSE BUT IT WAS BUILT IN THE '50S. SO THAT'S HISTORIC, LIKE I AM.

AND THAT'S FOR MEETING SPACE MUSEUM SPACE FOR THE GULAGICHI ARTIFACTS.

AND BY THE WAY, ARMSTRONG HAS OVER 100GULAGICHI RESIDENTS. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER.

I THINK IT CHANGES. SO THAT KIND OF ALLOWED FOR THAT. AND THE RESOURCE CENTER. AND NOW WE'RE ADDING THE FIVE NEW LOTS THAT WERE DEEDED TO THE COUNTY.

I MEAN, DEEDED FOR THE COUNTY. FOUR OF THOSE ARE TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A STORAGE BUILDING. THAT'S KIND OF PART OF WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING THE AT THE CHURCH FOR YEARS.

AND THAT WILL BE A BUILDING IN A COVERED AREA TO DO ALL THE DISTRIBUTION AND ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY DO.

SO WE'RE ADDING THE . 48 ACRES. AND IT IS ON RAILS TO TRAILS ASAS KNOW.

THE LOCATION KIND OF SHOWS YOU WHERE IT IS.

A LITTLE CLOSER YOU KIND OF SEE HOW YOU GET INTO ARMSTRONG.

THAT'S THE SAME WAY YOU GET OUT BECAUSE IT BASICALLY ENDS IN TIMBERLAND. AND THE BLUE IS WHAT WE CAME TO YOU BEFORE WITH AND THE RED IS WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY.

AND GOING BACK TOO YOU CAN SEE THE RELATIONSHIP TO THE PARK. AND THIS IS THE PARK AND THIS IS THE PARK HERE. AND THAT'S THAT SPUR THAT'S OFF THE TRAIL. IT'S AI.

YOU SEE THE PUBLIC FAIRGROUNDS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY OTHER THING IN THE AREA.

RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY 3, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE TO BE HERE. IT DOES HAVE FRONTAGE THROUGH THE OTHER . 55 ACRES ON ARMSTRONG ROAD AND OBVIOUSLY ON THAT TRAIL. SO AGAIN, IT'S FOR THAT . 48 ACRES. AND THIS SITE -- THESE WERE PLANTED IN 1913. SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY, IF YOU START LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, YOU'LL SEE THEY LOOK LIKE THEY LEAN.

AND THEY DO. THEY'RE NOT PERPENDICULAR.

SO AGAIN, THE SITE'S TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR RESOURCE CENTER FOR ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO AND ALSO TO HELP THEM WHEN THEY DO THEIR GLLA GEECHEE FESTIVAL. THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND, AND THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO. THEY DO COMMUNITY MEALS, MIGRANT FARMWORKER MEALS, THEY HAVE A FOOD PANTRY, SCHOOL SUPPLIES. THEY DISTRIBUTE FOR THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS. THERE'S A CLOTHES CLOSET. THERE'S AFTER- SCHOOL ACTIVITIES. JUST ALL SORTS OF THINGS.

AND THEY ALSO INCLUDE ALL THE MOBILE THINGS.

SO THIS SITE IS WHERE THE BLOOD BANK WOULD BECOME OR THE LIBRARY OR WHEREVER AS WELL. THE ORIGINAL THING IS FOR THE DISPLAY OF THE ARTIFACTS AND FOR OFFICE SPACE AND ADMINISTRATIVE SPACE.

AND AT THE TIME WE THOUGHT POSSIBLY BICYCLE REPAIR ITEMS. WE'LL PROBABLY USE THAT, THE STORAGE SHED MORE FOR THAT. MAKES SENSE.

MALINDA'S BEEN COLLECTING BICYCLES FOR A FEW YEARS.

AND SO THAT'S UNDER WAY. IT'S GONE A LITTLE SLOWER THAN WE'D LIKE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT, GET THAT FIGURED OUT.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THE STAFF WAS NICE ENOUGH TO PREPARE FOR US OR WHATEVER. THAT BUILDING MAY MOVE A LITTLE BIT TO THE NORTH BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE THAT DRIVE COME UP TO THE BUILDING AND THINGS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN COME UP AND TURN AROUND AND THEN LEAVE. AND EVENTUALLY WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT ALL THE WAY AROUND IF WE CAN GET ACCESS THROUGH THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. SO THAT'S WHAT WAS APPROVED AND HAS BEEN APPROVED. AND THIS I JUST KIND OF PUT IN. THIS IS WHAT THE HISTORIC

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GRANT IS FOR, IS RESTORING THIS LITTLE HOUSE. AND THE ARCHITECT WAS CONNOR DOWLING WITH OPEN CITY ARCHITECTURE, CITY ENGINEER JEREMY CALLAWAY.

LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT JEREMY MARQUEE WITH MLH.

SURVEY, FLINT SURVEYING AND MAPPING.

RYAN CARTER HELPED US WITH IT. AND THE CONTRACTOR ON THIS IS ERIC SAKS. AND HE HAS A NON- PROFIT OPERATION LIFELINE IS HIS CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. AND IT'S ALL VETERANS OR WHATEVER. AND IT'S VOLUNTEER WORK FOR MOST OF THEM.

THAT'S WHY IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE LONGER AS WE WORK THROUGH IT. JUST A CLOSER LOOK AT THE APPROVED CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

LITTLE LANDSCAPE PLAN. SO EVENTUALLY, I'VE GOT IT IN RED, DOTTED LINE, THAT'S THE LOTS WE WOULD LIKE TO GET. AND I THINK THAT'S COMING WHETHER IT'S AN EASEMENT FROM THEM OR WHATEVER THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED IN A FAMILY DISPUTE BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ANY WILL WHEN THE PERSON DIED.

THIS IS SPECIAL USE IS DEFINED AS SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE GENERALLY WITHOUT RESTRICTION THROUGHOUT THE ZONING DIVISION. A RESOURCE CENTER ISN'T ANYTHING THAT'S SPECIFICALLY LISTED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR PICNIC AREAS AND COUNTRY CLUBS, THINGS LIKE THAT. WHEN WE ORIGINALLY CLAIM THEY CALLED IT A NOT LISTED SPECIAL USE.

SO WE'RE OUR OWN SPECIAL USE. GOING THROUGH COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND SUCH. BUT WE DO HAVE ENOUGH ACREAGE NOW, AND ESPECIALLY IF WE GET TO ADD THE OTHER PIECE I'LL BE BACK FOR AND YOU WE'RE JUST GOING TO REZONE IT TO OR WHICH ALLOWS THESE KIND OF EVENT SPACES AND STORAGE AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO YOU MAY SEE US HERE NOT TOO FAR. AND YOU KNOW ALL THESE THINGS.

I'LL JUST KEEP COMPATIBILITY WITH IT. IT'S BEEN HERE, THE PLACE THAT THEY OPERATE HAS BEEN THERE.

IT'S PART OF THE COMMUNITY. AND THESE FIRST PICTURES ACTUALLY ARE FROM THE FIRST TIME I WENT OUT THERE BECAUSE WHEN I WENT OUT THE OTHER DAY TO TAKE PICTURES IT'S SO COVERED WITH VEGETATION THAT YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING.

SO I USED THESE JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU, THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET, LOOKING ALONG THE BICYCLE TRAIL.

THAT WAS SOME RECENT DRAINAGE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY HAD DONE THEN. SO THAT'S GREAT. IT'S FUNCTIONING FOR THIS.

THAT'S THE TRAIL. BUT YOU CAN TELL THIS IS MORE IN THE FALL THAN RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER. CAN'T REALLY SEE THROUGH IT.

AND THAT WAS THE LITTLE HOUSE BEFORE IT STARTED BEING DEMOLISHED. NOW THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DID GO OUT THERE YO KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

THE NEXT TWO THINGS ARE TO POUR A NEW FLOORING IN IT AND PUT THE TRUSSES ON AND GET THE ROOF ON.

WE'RE HOPING THAT HAPPENS PRETTY SOON. THAT'S KIND OF JUST A PICTURE WHERE THE SEPTIC TANK IS IN THE BACK LOOKING TO THE STREET.

AND THAT JUST SHOWS YOU SOME OF THE PART -- THE SITE THAT'S GOING TO BE ADD ED. THERE'S NO SUBSTANTIAL TREES.

WE DID SAVE SOME. ON THE ORIGINAL SITE THERE WERE SOME REALLY NICE TREES. THIS IS MOSTLY JUST SMALL.

THEY DON'T EVEN SHOW UP ON A TREE SURVEY.

KIND OF THE WHOLE THING. AND NOTICE EVERYTHING WAS POSTED AS IT WAS. THEN THEY HAVE THIS SIGN ON THERE TOO THAT SOMEBODY CAN KIND OF GO UP AND DONATE IF THEY WANT TOO. AND READ ABOUT THE PROJECT, YES.

THIS IS THE ARMSTRON PARK FACILITIES THAT ARE RIGHT DOWN. AND THE TRAILHEAD THERE. AND JUST WHERE THEY HAVE ALL THEIR ACTIVITIES.

USUALLY WHEN THEY DO HAVE THE GULLAH GEECHEE FESTIVAL THAT'S HERE. THIS IS THE CHURCH AREA WHERE THEY'VE BEEN DOING ALL THE OTHER STUFF.

YOU PICK UP MEALS THERE. THEY STORE EVERYTHING THERE.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S KIND OF MAKESHIFT. IT HAS BEEN FOR A LONG TIME.

AND SO THOSE -- ALL OF THESE THINGS WILL NOW BE UNDER COVER AND IN A NICE CENTRAL PLACE.

WE FEEL LIKE IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE RELY ON IT AND PARTICIPATE IN GIVING AND DOING THINGS.

CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND

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THE POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THEY DO HAVE A GRANT FOR THE ORIGINAL BUILDING AND THEY'RE GETTING AN EXTENSION ON THAT.

AND THEN THEY HAVE ANOTHER GRANT NOW THAT WILL HELP BUILD THIS STORAGE SHED. WE'RE JUST REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE MALINDA TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE WE FINISH.

>> I'M MALINDA PEEPLES. 68231 ARMSTRONG ROAD, ELKTON, FLORIDA. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL HELP AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING OUT IN ARMSTRONG FOR MANY YEARS FOR MANY SERVICES.

AS SHE SAYS, WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FROM THE PARKING LOT OF OUR CHURCH AND ONCE WE GOT THE LAND THAT WE ACCUMULATED NOW WE JUST WANT TO EXPAND IT TO DO MORE SERVICES. WE DO A LOT OF SERVICES.

MIGRANT, LOW- INCOME FAMILIES. WE JUST DID A BACK TO SCHOOL EVENT WHICH WE DID ABOUT 300 BOOK BAGS, SCHOOL SUPPLIES FOR THE KIDS.

TOMORROW, FRIDAY WE DO FOOD BASKET GIVEAWAY EVERY FRIDAY, MEALS.

THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS. HEALTH UNIT.

WE TRY TO DO EVERY LITTLE THING THAT WE CAN TO HELP IMPROVE SOMEONE LIFE. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR HELPING US, MAKING THIS REALITY COME TO FULL PLANS.

THANK Y'ALL. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE HELP.

AND Y'ALL WILL BE HELPING US TO CONTINUE TO HELP OTHERS THAT ARE IN NEED.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. MR. LABANOWSKI?

>> JUST REAL QUICK, I'M DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THIS THING.

BUT I HAD ONE QUESTION. YOU HAD STATED THAT THE STORAGE BUILDING ITSELF MAY BE MOVED A LITTLE BIT MORE NORTH?

>> FROM WHERE IT SHOWS ON THE SITE PLAN?

>> YEAH, JUST A LITTLE BIT --

>> CLOSER TO THE WALKING PATH?

>> YEAH, TO THE TRAIL.

>> BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GO ANY FARTHER TO THE LEFT THERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOUR SEPTIC SYSTEM IS. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING.

THAT'S MORE NORTH.

>> YEAH.

>> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

>> YEAH. BUT THOSE LOTS TOO ARE NOT AS DEEP AS THE OTHER ONES BECAUSE THE COUNTY KEPT THAT. AND ACTUALLY THE PATHWAY IS NOT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THE PATHWAY IS IN THAT 20 FEET THAT THEY TOOK OFF THE LOTS.

WE CAN'T GO ANY FARTHER THAN THAT, AND WE DO HAVE TO MEET MEET

SETBACKS. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'LL ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 3? ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

MISS SPIEGEL?

>> WELL, I WAS EXCITED TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS.

I DID NOT KNOW. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW. SO THAT'S EXCITING.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO FINDING OUT MORE ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND SEEING HOW WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER AS COMMUNITY AND MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR PEOPLE. THAT'S GOOD.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF THAT'S OKAY.

I'D GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUPMAJ 2025- 10SEA COMMUNITY HELP RESOURCE CENTER EXPANSION BASED UPON EIGHT FINDINGS OF FACT AND EIGHT CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> I SECOND THE MOTION.

>> WE HAVE MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

[4. ZVAR 2025-12 6951 Charles Street (Detached Garage). Request for a Zoning Variance to Section 6.01.03.E.3 of the Land Development Code to allow for a reduced second Front Yard setback of three (3) feet in lieu of the required fifteen (15) feet for a Corner Lot located in Residential, Single Family (RS-2) zoning to accommodate construction of a detached garage.]

THAT MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU, MISS TAYLOR. ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4. IS THERE ANY EX PARTE? DR. HILSENBECK.

>> I MET WITH PAT HAMILTON AND KETO BURNS.

KETO IS HEAD OF SACA THE SOUTH ANASTASIA COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, ON MONDAY THE 18TH. AND THEN I VISITED THE SITE WITH PAT SHORTLY THEREAFTER. WE KROEF DROVE DOWN THERE. LABANOWSKI.

>> I VISITED THE SITE AS WELL THIS PAST SUNDAY.

>> MISS SPIEGEL.

>> I DID A SITE VISIT. I HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH JEN LUMBROOK.

>> I VISITED THE SITE AND RECEIVED SEVERAL COMMUNICATIONS, WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS.

>> THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

>> NICK SEIBERT ONE OF THE OWNERS OF 6951.

I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE ON THIS ITEM TO A FUTURE DATE UNKNOWN DUE TO SOME NEW INFORMATION TO BRING OUR APPLICATION INTO CODE COMPLIANCE.

>> OKAY. IS THAT IN REFERENCE TO THE FENCE THAT WAS ON YOUR YARD?

>> CORRECT. >> ARE YOU GOING TO PROBABLY AMEND YOUR APPLICATION TO INCLUDE IT?

>> YES. CORRECT.

>> ALL RIGHT. HE'S REQUESTING --

>> I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS -- TO INCLUDE WHAT?

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WHAT IS TO BE INCLUDED IN

CONTINUANCE? >> THERE IS AN EIGHT- FOOT WALL OR PARTITION THAT HE'S BUILDING AND THAT WOULD NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE RIGHT NOW. AND SO HE IS ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE TO COME BACK TO INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF HIS APPLICATION THE NEXT TIME HE

COMES. >> OKAY.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE MAIN CHANGE --

>> YES, SIR.

>> -- FOR YOUR RETURN?

>> YES, SIR.

>> AND DO YOU HAVE A DATE FOR THAT? I GUESS THAT'S SCHEDULED WITH THE COUNTY. OKAY.

>> SO WE'LL DO A DATE UNCERTAIN.

OKAY. MR. GREEN, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION, WAS STAFF, WHETHER THEY'VE GOT ENOUGH TIME. BUT IT'S UNCERTAIN.

WE'LL MAKE A MOTION.

>> HOLD ON. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENTFIRST. BUT WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. MISS SPIEGEL.

>> I WAS JUST ASKING ABOUT -- I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE TO TALK ON THIS. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW THAT

WORKED. >> YEAH, I'LL ASK FOR PUBLICPUBLIC

COMMENT. >> OKAY.

SIR, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND JUST SITTING DOWN FOR ONE SECOND WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK INTO AGENCY.

>> NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU.

>> IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 4?

>> MY NAME'S BILL HAMILTON. I LIVE AT 7000 CHARLES STREET. I APOLOGIZE. I JUST WALKED IN THE DOOR. SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING. IS HE GOING TO REDRAW AND

RESUBMIT? >> CORRECT.

HE'S ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE SO HE CAN COME BACK AND HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT APPLICATION.

>> FAIR ENOUGH. SO THERE'S REALLY NO REASON FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS APPLICATION BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME.

>> CORRECT.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

>> OKAY.

ANY KIND OF COMMENT?

>> I JUST -- ADDITIONAL COMMENT TO THE APPLICANT.

MAKE SURE THAT -- WHEN I VISITED THE SITE, THE HEARING NOTICE SIGN HAD BEEN TRAMPLED DOWN.

SO WHEN IT'SIT'S RESCHEDULED, WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT SIGN IS NOT AS -- VERY VISIBLE AND NOT TRAMPLED DOWN.

>> OKAY. MR. MATOVINA.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE ARE CLEAR, I DIDN'T HEAR THE APPLICANT SAY THAT HE'S GOING TO MOVE THE GARAGE.

I HEARD THE APPLICANT SAY HE'S GOING TO MODIFY HIS REQUEST TO ADD A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE FOR AN EIGHT-FOOT- TALL WALL. SO I DON'T WANT A GROUP OF PEOPLE TO LEAVE HERE TODAY THINKING HE'S MOVING THAT GARAGE IF THAT ISN'T HIS INTENTION.

>> I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT A GARAGE.

>> ISN'T THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? I'M SORRY. YEAH.

OKAY.

>> YEAH.

>> SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THAT HE DIDN'T NECESSARILY SAY HE'S MOVING THE GARAGE IN THE REQUEST FOR THAT VARIANCE. HE'S GOING TO ADD A REQUEST FOR AN ADDITIONAL VARIANCE.

>> SO WE'LL COMMENT ON BOTH ITEMS AT THE NEXT MEETING?

>> IT WOULDN'T BE -- IT WOULD BE AT A CERTAIN TIME.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT DATE THAT WILL BE.

BUT AT THE NEXT MEETING IN WHICH HIS APPLICATION COMES FORWARD, YES.

BOTH OF THOSE WOULD BE TAKEN UP IN ONE APPLICATION.

>> CORRECT. SO WE'LL COMMENT ON THE GARAGE AT THAT TIME WITH THE EXCEPTION

FOR THE EIGHT-FOOT WALL. >> CORRECT.

>> SO AGAIN, NO REASON FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.

SO WE'LL JUST DO IT AT THE MEETING SOMETIME IN THE

FUTURE. >>

OKAY. >> DATE UNCERTAIN.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. MR. MATOVINA. OH, SORRY.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> MOTION TO CONTINUE -- I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE VARIANCE 2025- 12 6951 CHARLES STREET TO A DATE UNCERTAIN.

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION TO CONTINUE AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

THAT MOTION TO CONTINUE IS PASSED. SO IT WILL BE BACK ON THE AGENDA AT SOME POINT, BUT YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED.

[5. ZVAR 2025-10 341 Lures Lane. Request for a Zoning Variance to Section 2.02.04.B.4 of the Land Development Code to allow for the eave height of an accessory metal building structure (18') to be greater than the eave height of the Main Use structure (11') along with a request to allow the square footage of 4,000 to exceed the main use of 2,064 square feet.]

WE'RE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 5. IS THERE ANY EX PARTE? MR. LABANOWSKI.

>> I DID VISIT THE SITE.

>> I ALSO VISITED THE SITE

YESTERDAY. >> ANYONE ELSE? MR. KIMMEL?

>> YES. MY NAME IS ALEX KIMMEL.

I LIVE AT 341 LURES LANE ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA 32095.

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I'M SEEKING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW ME TO BUILD A DETACHED METAL THAT EXCEEDS THE EAVE HEIGHT AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF MY DWELLING. I'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY SINCE 2011. I'M GOING TO DO THE SLIDES. SO I'M OFF OF U.S. 1. IF YOU GO DOWN STOKES LANDING YOU TURN LEFT ONTO WATERWOOD LANE WHICH IS A DIRT ROAD, IT'S A PRIVATE DIRT ROAD, YOU HAVE TO TURN RIGHT ON LURES LANE, WHICH IS ANOTHER DIRT ROAD.

ONCE YOU GET ALMOST TO MY PLACE AN EASEMENT.

IT'S NOT A ROAD. WATERWOOD OR LURES ISN'T MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY. WE DON'T GET -- POSTAL PACKAGES DON'T GET DELIVERED. ANYWAYS, I'M BACK IN THE WOODS WHERE WE'RE KIND OF FORGOTTEN ABOUT. SO ACCORDING -- LIKE I SAY, I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY IN 2011. IT'S GOT TWO DWELLINGS ON IT.

THE DWELLING I LIVE IN. AND THEN AN OLDER SINGLE-WIDE MOBILE HOME. EVER SINCE I BOUGHT IT MY PLAN WAS TO REMOVE THE MOBILE HOME AND REPLACE IT WITH A GARAGE. I DIDN'T REALIZE I GUESS UNTIL NOW THAT THERE'S A -- ACCORDING TO THE LAND USE CODE YOU CAN'T PUT A GARAGE ANY BIGGER THAN YOUR HOME UNLESS IT'S BEHIND YOUR HOME. SO I'M OPEN RURAL ZONING.

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW. I DON'T THINK I HAVE A BIGGER -- NO, I DON'T.

OKAY. SO YOU CAN'T SEE IT, BUT THE MOBILE HOME IS -- WELL, YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THAT. IS THERE A WAY TO BLOW THIS UP OR NO?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

>> RIGHT HERE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THAT, THAT'S WHERE THE SINGLE WIDE IS. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO REPLACE AND PUT A METAL BUILDING IN ITS PLACE.

ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO I BURIED ALL MY POWER.

BECAUSE I'M A FIREMAN, SO I GET RECALLED TO WORK DURING STORMS AND HURRICANES AND STUFF. AND WHEN WE LOSE POWER IN MY AREA IT CAN TAKE A WEEK TILL WE GET POWER BACK.

SO THE ORIGINAL POWER, IT RUNS DOWN LURES LANES AND COMES DOWN THE EAST SIDE OF MY PROPERTY. BUT IN ORDER TO BURY IT I HAD TO HAVE A POLE SET AND A TRANSFORMER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. I HAD TO HAVE AN FPL ENGINEER COME OUT. IN ORDER TO DO THAT WE HAD TO CROSS THE EASEMENT AND THEN SPLIT IT OFF TO BOTH DWELLINGS. AND THE REASON I DID THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE OAK TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IF I'M AT WORK AND A LIMB FALLS, I COULD BE WITHOUT POWER AND, YOU KNOW, REFRIGERATORS DIE, STUFF LIKE THAT.

WHICH I GOT MARRIED THREE YEARS AGO.

I HAVE TWO LITTLE BOYS. SO IT'S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT NOW IF I'M STUCK AT WORK. I DON'T WANT MY WIFE TO BE WITHOUT POWER. SO FOR ME TO PUT THE BUILDING BEHIND MY HOUSE ACCORDING TO FOLLOW THE LAND USE CODE IT'S TOO FAR FROM ANY AVAILABLE POWER.

ACCORDING TO FPL, THE ENGINEER, SHE SAID THEY WON'T BURY MORE THAN 200 FEET.

AND I DON'T HAVE ANY OVERHEAD LINES TO EVEN BURY FROM TO THAT AREA OF MY PROPERTY. ANOTHER THING IS I ALREADY HAVE 200 AMP SERVICE THAT'S BRAND NEW WHERE THAT SINGLE WIDE IS THAT I WAS PLANNING ON USING.

ANOTHER REASON I WOULD LIKE TO NOT PUT IT BEHIND MY HOUSE IS THAT WHOLE BACK HALF OF MY PROPERTY IS ALREADY AN ESTABLISHED PASTURE THAT'S FENCED.

I DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE LIVESTOCK ON IT BECAUSE I HAVE TWO LITTLE KIDS BUT ONCE THEY GET A LITTLE OLDER I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME COWS AND KIND OF -- KIND OF THE WAY I WAS RAISED, YOU KNOW, WE HAD COWS AND STUFF GROWING UP. ANOTHER PROBLEM IS MY NEIGHBOR, MR. NEWTON, LIVES ON THE WEST SIDE OF MY PROPERTY. HE'S LIVED THERE 52 YEARS.

AND IF I PUT THE BUILDING BEHIND MY HOUSE IT WOULD PUT IT RIGHT NEXT TO HIS HOUSE, WHICH I'D RATHER NOT DO. I'M ASSUMING I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BE ASKED WHY SUCH A BIG BUILDING OR THE HEIGHT OR ANYTHING ELSE.

I HAVE A PRETTY LARGE COLLECTION OF ANTIQUE CARS AND MOTORCYCLES. AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ALL STORED -- OR MOST, PROBABLY HALF OF THE STUFF IS STORED AT MY MOM'S PROPERTY IN HER GARAGE, WHICH SHE'S 70 YEARS OLD AND AT SOME POINT SHE'S GOING TO SELL OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE THAT STUFF.

SO I'M TRYING TO HAVE A BIG ENOUGH BUILDING TO STORE EVERYTHING I OWN. AND AS FAR AS THE HEIGHT I WANT TO PUT 14-FOOT DOORS. ACCORDING TO THE STEEL BUILDING COMPANY YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST A TWO- FOOT ABOVE YOUR DOOR ADD HEIGHT WHICH WOULD PUT ME AT 16 FOOT. THEY RECOMMENDED 18 FEET BECAUSE THAT OPENS UP THE OPTIONS OF A MEZZANINE OR A LOFT OR ANYTHING IF YOU WANT TO TRY TO ADD ADDITIONAL SPACE INSIDE THE BUILDING. IT GIVES YOU THE HEAD HEIGHT TO

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DO IT. AND FOR ME IF I HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE FOR 16 FEET I MIGHT AS WELL DO IT FOR 18. THAT WAY I HAVE AS MUCH USABLE SPACE AS I POSSIBLY CAN FOR IN THE FUTURE.

AGAIN, YEAH, I HAVE A LOT OF STUFF.

I WROTE IT DOWN IN CASE YOU'D CARE, BUT I HAVE NINE VEHICLES, SEVEN MOTORCYCLES, THREE TRACTORS, A CAMPER, A BOAT, AND A COUPLE TRAILERS ON TOP OF -- I HAVE ALL MY DAD'S -- MY DAD PASSED AWAY IN 2013.

AND -- SORRY.

>> YOU'RE FINE.

>> HE LEFT ME ALL HIS -- ANYWAYS, I'VE GOT A LOT OF STUFF.

>> SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF TOYS.

>> YEAH. AND A LOT OF IT'S SENTIMENTAL. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I JUST WANT TO GET RID OF.

>> SURE.

>> THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

>> OKAY. WE MIGHT HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

MR. LABANOWSKI?

>> JUST REAL QUICK, YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE ONE ACCESS, YOUR DRIVEWAY, THAT THE HOUSE IS GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE SHED, CORRECT? OR THE GARAGE.

>> HOW MANY TREES ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO PULL OUT IN ORDER TO BUILD THAT OR ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO TRY TO KEEP IT --

>> I'M TRYING TO KEEP AS MANY AS I CAN. THERE IS ONE ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE EXISTING MOBILE HOME THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE FOOTPRINT -- WELL, I CAN SHOW YOU.

IN THE FOOTPRINT. IT'S LIKE RIGHT HERE.

IT'S IN THE FOOTPRINT. BUT IT'S GOT A -- IT'S ALREADY GOT A SPLIT IN THE BASE OF IT.

SO IT'S KIND OF ONE HURRICANE AWAY FROM COMING DOWN. AND IT'S HANGING OVER THE MOBILE HOME.

THAT'S WHY I HAVEN'T CUT IT DOWN, BECAUSE IT WILL FALL ON THE MOBILE HOME IF I TRY TO REMOVE IT.

>> THANKS.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> MISS SPIEGEL.

>> SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF TOYS AN% YOU'RE A GOOD FAMILY PLAN.

I LIKE THAT. I LIKE FAMILY. IT'S IMPORTANT. SO REALLY THE REASON THAT YOU EVEN HAVE TO BE HERE RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE YOU'RE IN A MANUFACTURED HOME THAT ONLY IS 11 FEET TO THE EAVES, RIGHT?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> SO THIS BUILDING IS NOT EVE AS TALL AS A NORMAL SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE WOULD BE.

>> RIGHT.

>> I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM.

>> I DID -- THIS IS ACTUALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY FIRE STATION. THAT'S 50 BY 80 BY 18, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AND I TOURED THAT WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING IT. SO THAT KIND OF GAVE ME AN IDEA OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, HOW MUCH SPACE IS INSIDE THAT ACTUAL SIZE BUILDING. AND HONESTLY, THAT'S AS BIG AS I CAN AFFORD. I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE EVEN BIGGER, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S --

>> DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE DRIVING BY CHECKING IT OUT BACK WHERE YOU ARE.

>> I'M AT A DEAD END. SO I DON'T GET TRAFFIC ON MY

ROAD. >> YOU HAVE SONS, TWO BOYS?

>> TWO BOYS. THEY'RE A YEAR AND A HALF AND 2 1/2.

>> NICE. GOOD JOB.

>> YEAH, I GUESS MY -- IT'S IN A -- ON A VERY LARGE PROPERTY AT THE END OF THE ROAD VERY MUCH. AND SEPARATED FROM ANY - - A LOT OF SEPARATION FROM ANYTHING ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS FAR AS HOMES. SO I THINK IT MIGHT BE ONE OF THOSE UNUSUAL SITUATIONS WHERE SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE -- WORK WELL. I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION IS WILL YOU NEED TO COME BACK FOR A SPECIAL USE FOR THE CATTLE YOU WANT TO ADD OR NOT?

>> MR. OLSON?

>> I MEAN, I'M OPEN RURAL. SO I DON'T --

>> OH, OKAY. I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE CODE ALLOWS THAT OR

NOT. >> I MEAN, ACCORDING TO WHAT I'VE READ IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT CODE, OPEN RURAL YOU CAN HAVE AGRICULTURAL, YOU CAN HAVE RESIDENTIAL, YOU CAN ALMOST DO ANYTHING YOU WANT EXCEPT BUILD A BUILDING THIS SIZE.

>> OKAY. THEN I GUESS THERE WILL BE NO COMMERCIAL USE OF THE PROPERTY.

>> NO, SIR. IT'S JUST FOR MY STUFF AND FOR ME TO MAINTAIN MY CARS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF INSIDE THE BUILDING. THAT'S IT.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> MR. LABANOWSKI?

>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF EVERYONE'S READY.

>> I WOULD NEED TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 5? YES, SIR.

>> MY NAME IS RICHARD NEWTON. I LIVE AT 337 LURES LANE. I'M ALEX'S NEIGHBOR ON HIS WEST SIDE.

HE IS ON MY EAST SIDE. I HAVE LIVED ON MY PROPERTY

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THIS DECEMBER FOR 53 YEARS. RAISED BOTH MY DAUGHTERS.

STILL FEED THE DEER IN THE DRIVEWAY.

TO THE POINT LAST WEDNESDAY ONE OF OUR DOES SHOWED UP WITH TWIN FAWNS. THEY SHOWED UP YESTERDAY AT 4:15 IN THE AFTERNOON. I NORMALLY FEED THEM AT 5:00. MY WIFE SAID I GUESS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE THE FEEDING TIME. BUT ALEX AND HIS FAMILY, TWO BOYS, GREAT NEIGHBORS. I FULLY SUPPORT ANYTHING ALEX WOULD WANT TO DO, WHETHER IT'S BEHIND HIS HOME, BESIDE HIS HOME. I LOOK FORWARD TO HIM RAISING HIS BOYS WHERE HE WANTS. I HOPE THE BOARD WILL APPROVE HIS VARIANCE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE?

>> HEY. I'M PAM KIMMEL.

2140 QUARTER HORSE CIRCLE NORTH, ST. JOHNS, FLORIDA.

ALEX'S MOTHER. AND I OWN THE PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HIM. AND I FULLY APPROVE -- OR I MEAN I FULLY AGREE. BUT HE GREW UP -- I MEAN, MY HUSBAND AND I, THE CARS AND THE MOTORCYCLES, AND WE RAISED COWS THERE OFF OF QUARTER HORSE BEFORE IT GOT SO DEVELOPED AND ALL OF THAT. AND I THINK HE WANTS TO DO HE SAME THING WITH HIS CHILDREN, UNTIL WE LOST MY HUSBAND IN 2013.

THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE WE'RE BACK INTO THE MOTION. MR. LABANOWSKI.

>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONE VARIANCE 2025- 10 FOR 341 LURES LANE BASED ON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT AND SIX CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED BY THE

STAFF. >> WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> I SECOND THE MOTION.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. SOMEONE HAS NOT VOTED YET.

OH, OKAY. THAT MOTION PASSES 6-1.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. KIMMEL. ALL RIGHT.

[6. REZ 2025-06 RaceTrac at Dixie Highway. Request to rezone approximately eight (8) acres of land from Open Rural (OR) and Commercial Intensive (CI) with conditions to Commercial Highway and Tourist (CHT) with conditions, located at the southwestern corner of County Road 204 and Highway US 1 South intersection.]

ON ITEM NUMBER 6 IS THERE ANY EX PARTE? MISS SPIEGEL.

>> YES, I DID A SITE VISIT AND I HAD TWO PHONE CONVERSATIONS WITH COURTNEY GAVER AND A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH JEN LUMBRICK FROM RIVER KEEPERS.

>> I VISITED THE SITE ON THE 15TH AND SPOKE WITH MISS GRAVES. OH, I VISITED ON THE 16TH. SPOKE WITH MISS GRAVES ON THE 15TH.

>> AND MR. MATOVINA?

>> I HAD A PHONE CALL WITH MISS GAVER AND WE DISCUSSED THE MERITS OF THE APPLICATION LAST WEEK, I BELIEVE.

>> DR. HILSENBECK?

>> WELL, I HAD A PHONE CALL AND IT STARTED HEY, THIS IS COURTNEY, HOW ARE YOU DOING? IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

SO I THOUGHT THIS IS -- I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THE NUMBER.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A SPAM CALL. SO I DELETED IT. AND NOW THAT I SEE YOUR NAME HERE, I FIGURE IT WAS YOU.

>> IT WAS ME.

>> SORRY. >> GUILTY.

>> MR. GREEN?

>> YES. I ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION AND I DID A SITE VISIT.

>> AND MR. LABANOWSKI?

>> I ALSO DID A SITE VISIT.

>> AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ON FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK ABOUT THE APPLICATION.

>> AWESOME. GOOD AFTERNOON. THROUGH THE CHAIR, COURTNEY GAVER WITH ROGERS TOWERS, 110 WHETSTONE PLACE ST. AUGUSTINE 30826. I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT AND CONTRACT PURCHASER RACETRAC INC.

WHO'S UNDER CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY FROM THE OWNER, EXTREME FW INVESTMENTS LLC.

WE DO HAVE THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING, SAMANTHA JONES FROM RACETRAC HERE. SHE'S BACK IN THE BACK.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR PROJECT ENGINEER WITH PRIME AE AS WELL AS OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER CHRIS WALSH WITH WALSH TRAFFIC ENGINEERING. SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ABOUT A HALF A MILE FROM THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY LINE WAY DOWN PAST FAVER DYKES JUST UNDER THE INTERSTATE. IF YOU'VE LIVED IN ST. AUGUSTINE FOR A LONG TIME, YOU'LL PROBABLY REMEMBER ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, THIS USED TO BE A TRUCK STOP CALLED CHARLIE T'S. THOSE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN LONG GONE ALTHOUGH IF YOU DID A SITE VISIT AND WALKED AROUND YOU PROBABLY SAW THERE ARE STILL SOME OF THE FOUNDATIONS LEFT OVER FROM THAT CHARLIE T'S TRUCK STOP. SO I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ZONING IN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT'S SPLIT ZONING. AND IT'S EIGHT ACRES THAT WE'RE ASKING TO BE REZONED. BUT JUST FOR A MOMENT, THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY BEING REZONED AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE PROPERTY THE OWNER OWNS AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY IS ALL IN THE MIXED USE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THE 2025 COMP PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE MAP. OKAY.

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SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE THIS MAKE SENSE. SO THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS SPLIT ZONING. SO THE OWNER RIGHT NOW OWNS WHAT YOU SEE OUTLINED IN RED. AND THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER 20 ACRES. AND SO OF THAT RACETRAC IS GOING TO BE PURCHASING ALMOST 17 ACRES OF THAT LAND.

THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS THE NORTHEAST CORNER IS ALREADY ZONED CHT. YOU'LL SEE A MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY IS ALSO CI WITH CONDITIONS.

AND THEN THERE'S A PORTION OF OR. SO THERE'S AN UPLAND PORTION OF OR ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE AND THEN THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE SITE IS THE ORS BEING THE WETLANDS. SO ON HERE THIS GIVES A BETTER IDEA. SO WHAT WE'RE CIRCLING IN RED ON THAT RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS WHAT IS SUBJECT TO THIS REZONING APPLICATION.

SO YOU'LL SEE WE'RE BASICALLY BRINGING IN ABOUT 2 1/2 ACRES OF OR AS WELL ASED CI THAT'S REMAINING ON THE OWNER'S PROPERTY. WE'RE BRINGING ALL OF THAT INTO CHT. AND SO THE REMAINDER OF THAT OR IS ABOUT AN ACRE AND THAT PROPERTY AS WELL AS A LITTLE BIT OF THE CI, THAT WILL BE RETAINED BY THE SELLER FOR FUTURE USE AT SOME POINT. SO THIS IS A CONVENTIONAL REZONING, BUT WE DID SUBMIT A SITE PLAN. THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN. AGAIN, OVERALL THE SITE THAT RACETRAC, THE PROPERTY THAT RACETRAC'S PURCHASING AND WILL BE DEVELOPING IS ABOUT 17 ACRES. THAT DOESN'T -- THAT INCLUDES THE WETLANDS, NONE OF WHICH ARE BEING DISTURBED.

THIS IS A SINGLE USER. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A GAS STATION, WHICH IS ABOUT 8100 SQUARE FEET.

CONVENIENCE STORE WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING.

THE SITE WILL HAVE MULTIPLE FUELING STATIONS.

YOU CAN SEE AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER WE HAVE THE FUELING STATIONS FOR YOUR TYPICAL PASSENGER AUTOMOBILES AS WELL AS FURTHER TO THE SOUTH NEAR THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FACILITY THOSE WILL BE FOR THE DIESEL HIGH-FLOW FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND SEMIS. WE DID DO A TREE SURVEY AND THERE IS A 42-INCH LAUREL OAK ON THE ITE WHICH IS A SPECIMEN TREE AND IT IS BEING PRESERVED.

YOU CAN SEE IT, THE CANOPY AND THE TREE IS RIGHT THERE WHEREWHERE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT FACILITY. THAT'S A DRY RETENTION POND BUT THAT'S WHERE THE OAK WILL BE AND WE WILL BE PRESERVING THAT ALL THE WAY TO THE DRIP LINE, EVERYTHING THAT THE CODE REQUIRES WITH THAT. SO AGAIN, THE ENTIRETY OF THE WETLANDS, THOSE ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE REZONING. THOSE ARE NOT BEING TOUCHED.

WE WILL BE COMPLYING WITH THE COUNTY AND ST. JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT UPLAND BUFFER. IT'S A MANAGED 25- FOOT BUFFER.

IT CAN'T BE LESS THAN 15 FEET. THERE ARE AREAS HERE THAT ARE AS WIDE AS 70 TO 90 FEET. AND THEN ALSO THERE'S A 25- FOOT BUILDING SETBACK WHICH THE CODE REQUIRES. SO ANOTHER UNIQUE THING ABOUT THIS SITE IS THAT WE'RE OVER SIX MILES AWAY FROM WATER AND SEWER.

AND SO THIS WOULD BE A SEPTIC AND WELL. AND I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT ULTIMATELY AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THE STATE AND COUNTY REGULATIONS FOR THOSE AS WELL AS EVERYTHING THAT THE FIRE MARSHAL'S GOING TO REQUIRE WITH IT BEING A WELL. SO ON THIS SECTION IF YOU LOOK THIS JUST SHOWS ISOLATED OF THE PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY OF THAT SITE PLAN, THAT EIGHT ACRES THAT ARE REQUESTING BEING MOVED INTO CHT.

AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TRAFFIC. SO THE TOP CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN IS THE 204 -- COUNTY ROAD 204 AND YOU CAN SEE THE NORTH ARROWS TO THE BOTTOM.

THAT'S LIKE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A GOD'S EYE VIEW OF 204. AND THEN THE BOTTOM IS WHAT WE EXPECT FDOT IS GOING TO REQUIRE.

SO RIGHT NOW DRIVERS THAT ARE TURNING LEFT FROM COUNTY ROAD 204 THAT ARE GOING NORTHBOUND ON U.S. 1 LIKE BACK INTO TOWN, THEY JUST HAVE A STOP SIGN THERE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO WAIT AND THEN THERE'S A MEDIAN WHERE THEY CAN TURN LEFT AND HEAD BACK NORTH. SO WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING FDOT TO REQUIRE, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS BEEN SPEAKING WITH THE COUNTY'S ENGINEERS AS WELL AS FDOT FOR MANY MONTHS. SO WE EXPECT THAT FDOT IS GOING TO REQUIRE SOMETHING CALLED A SIGNALIZED R CUT. THAT MEANS IF YOU'RE DRIVING EAST ON COUNTY ROAD 204 BACK TO U.S. 1 AND YOU WANT TO -- RIGHT NOW YOU COULD TURN LEFT AND GO NORTH. YOU'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO TURN RIGHT AND THEN GO DOWN TO A SIGNALIZED BASICALLY U-TURN. AND SO WE WOULD ALSO -- SO BASICALLY YOU WOULD TURN RIGHT, THERE WOULD BE A SIGNALIZED R CUT AND THEN YOU COULD TURN LEFT. SO BASICALLY NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC ON U.S. 1 WOULD BE STOPPED SO YOU COULD DO THAT U-TURN. FURTHER SOUTH ON THE SITE WHERE WE ALSO HAVE INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM THE PROPERTY BACK TO U.S.

1 WE WILL BE ADDING A RIGHT TURN LANE FROM SOUTHBOUND U.S. 1 INTO THE PROPERTY.

DRIVERS THAT ARE COMING OUT ON THAT -- FROM THAT AREA OF THE SITE WOULD BE ABLE TO EITHER TURN LEFT THROUGH THE R

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CUT BACK TO HEAD NORTH OR TURN RIGHT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DID COME UP WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO NEIGHBORS ABOUT THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, WHY ISN'T THERE GOING TO BE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR WILL WE BE PUTTING A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN AT COUNTY ROAD 204 AND US1. FDOT HAS ESSENTIALLY TOLD US RIGHT NOW YOU'RE NOT GETTING A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE JUST BECAUSEIT'S LESS THAN A QUARTER OF A MILE TO THE INTERSECTION WITH I- 95 AND WITH QUEUEING AT A RED LIGHT THAT COULD CREATE AN ISSUE. SO THE R CUT IS WHAT WE EXPECT.

AND MR. WALSH CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER FDOT'S GOING TO REQUIRE IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MEET. SO HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF -- THIS ISN'T EXACTLY THE SAME TYPE OF SITE BUT SIMILAR.

WHERE YOU SEE THERE'S THE PASSENGER AUTOMOBILE, FUEL PUMP ISLANDS AND THE COMMERCIAL. RACETRAC RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, HAS FIVE LOCATIONS IN THE COUNTY. THIS WOULD BE THEIR SIXTH LOCATION. THIS STORE IS ANTICIPATED TO CREATE 35 FULL- TIME JOBS ONCE IT OPENS.

AND AS THIS MARKET GROWS THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL PART- TIME POSITIONS AVAILABLE.

ONE MORE PHOTO FOR YOU. ONE THING I DIDN'T MENTION EARLIER IS AS PART OF THE CI ZONING THAT'S EXISTED ON THE PROPERTY SINCE 2018 THERE WERE SOME CONDITIONS, ONE OF WHICH IS THE WETLANDS, WE WORK WITH THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT TO HAVE THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON THERE. THAT CONDITION IS NOT CHANGING.

WE'VE AGREED TO THAT CONDITION AS WELL AS THE WAIVER OF THE LIVE LOCAL ACT. STAFF HAS GIVEN YOU FOUR FINDINGS OF FACTS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. AND SO AGAIN, I WOULD JUST SUMMARIZE AND SAY THE RACETRAC IS AN ALLOWABLE USE RIGHT NOW WITHIN THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY THAT HAS A CHT AND CI ZONING. WE'RE PULLING IN THE 2 1/2 ACRES OF OR INTO THE CHT AND WE'RE BASICALLY BRINGING THE CI WITH CONDITIONS INTO THE CHT AS WELL.

SO THIS WILL RESTORE A GAS STATION AT THE INTERCHANGE OF I-95. THIS IS IN AN AREA THAT HASN'T SEEN UPDATES OR DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE IN A REALLY LONG TIME OR, YOU KNOW, UPGRADES TO THE EXISTING FACILITIES THAT ARE THERE. WE DO -- AGAIN, WE'RE PRESERVING THE WETLANDS.

WE ARE MEETING -- THE SITE PLAN WILL BE MEETING ALL OF THE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR CHT AS WELL AS 2025 COMP PLAN AND WE'RE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS. AND SO WITH THAT WE'LL STAND BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> THANK YOU, COURTFULLY.COURTNE Y.

ANY QUESTIONS? MISS SPIEGEL.

THE BUTTON.

>> OKAY. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN WE'RE DONE I WOULD LIKE MR. WALSH TO TELL ME WHICH ONE IS THE SIGNALIZED R CUT. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS. I THINK I GOT IT. BUT I'M NOT 100% SURE.

OKAY. ON THE SEPTIC. I WAS LOOKING FOR A LETTER FROM THE WATER MANAGEMENT -- I MEAN FROM THE UTILITIES PEOPLE AND I DIDN'T SEE IT.

IT MIGHT BE IN HERE. HOW MUCH ACTUALLY DOES A PRODUCT LIKE THIS NEED? HOW MUCH SEPTIC DOES IT NEED? BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN YOU SAID SINGLE FAMILY BUT YOU'VE GOT INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE COMING IN.

>> SO -- BETH, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT? OR SAMANTHA? I'M CALLING UP OUR ENGINEERS.

SO I KNOW FOR THE SEPTIC THERE ARE SPECIFIC SETBACKS WE HAVE TO HAVE FOR THE WETLANDS AND THE BIG THING WITH THE WELL WOULD BE WHAT THE FIRE MARSHAL IS REQUIRING FOR US. I DO THINK THAT CONVENIENCE STORE -- AND I'LL LET THE ENGINEERS CONFIRM. IS A PRETTY LOW- END

USER. >> THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING. AND I WAS THINKING ALSO ABOUT THE CAPACITY. I KNOW THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PRESSURE FOR TWO HOURS, RIGHT? OKAY.

YES. >> HI.

MY NAME'S SAMANTHA JONES WITH RACETRAC. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY ON THE SEPTIC, WE'RE ABOUT 2,700 GALLONS PER DAY BASED ON AVERAGE FLOWS FOR THIS STORE TYPE. OTHER STORES THAT WE HAVE IN FLORIDA ON SEPTIC, I BELIEVE THE CLOSEST IS BRADFORD COUNTY.

WE LIKE TO INSTALL A SYSTEM CALLED GEOMATRIC SYSTEM THAT'S PROPRIETARY AND ALLOWED IN THE STATE THAT ALLOWS A SEPTIC FIELD TO BE OVERSIZED AND CERTAIN FIELDS TO REST AND INFILTRATE MORE EFFICIENTLY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'D BE PROPOSING HERE.

>> THAT'S GOOD. I HAD SPOKE NGUYEN JEN LUNDBERG ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THE OLD TANKS IN THERE, ABOUT THE PREVIOUS USE, AND ABOUT YOU PRESERVING THE TREE AND THE CONSERVATION AREA AND NO WETLAND IMPACT AND SHE'S LIKE WELL, IT'S CHECKING OFF BOXES FOR ME. AND YOU KNOW THAT'S JEN WITH MATANZAS RIVER KEEPER. I THINK THAT'S PRETTY GENEROUS OF HER TO SAY. I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

SIGNALIZED R CUT. CAN YOU JUST SHOW ME WHICH ONE THAT WAS? I SAW TWO DIFFERENT SIGNALIZED TURNS AND ONE NON- SIGNALIZED TURN OFF OF US1.

THERE YOU GO.

>> CHRIS WALSH, WALSH TRAFFIC, 285 PALMETTO SPRING STREET DEBERRY. THE SIGNALIZED R CUT, THE BOTTOM IS KIND OF A BETTER DEPICTION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE.

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SO IN ESSENCE IF YOU'RE COMING FROM COUNTY ROAD 204 GOING EASTBOUND TODAY YOU HAVE A STOP SIGN AND YOU CAN MAKE A LEFT TO GO BACK TO THE INTERCHANGE, TO I-95.

THEY WILL RESTRICT THAT LEFT TURN MOVEMENT.

SO YOU'LL HAVE TO GO RIGHT TO GO SOUTH ON US1. FOLLOWING THE RED DOTTED LINE THEN YOU'D COME AND DO A U TURN AT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

SO THEY'LL STOP NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC WHERE THAT SIGNAL IS ON THE BOTTOM LEFT- HAND CORNER OF THAT DIAGRAM. SO YOU CAN MAKE A U-TURN THAT'S PROTECTED AND THEN GO BACK TO THE NORTH.

>> SO THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE THE MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC ON 204?

>> CORRECT.

>> MOVED NORTHBOUND ON US1?

>> YES. AND LIKE I SAID, THAT INTERSECTION'S 900 FEET ABAP THE DOT MINIMUM SPACING FOR I ASIGNAL IS ABOUT HALF A MILE.

>> THEY DON'T LIKE SIGNALS REALLY VERY MUCH AT ALL ANYMORE.

THEY WANT U- TURNS AND

ROUNDABOUTS. >> CORRECT.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DR. HILSENBECK.

>> COURTNEY, I THINK YOUR SCOPE AND SCALE OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA.