Oct 15, 2019 Board of County Commissioners

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>> SPEAKER: WHAT THEY CLERK OF COURT PLEASE CALL THE WILL? >> PAUL WALDRON VICE CHAIR

COMMISSIONER JEB SMITH >> HERE >> FROM A TEST TRUST FROM THE LORD AND DO GOOD. DWELL IN THE LAND AND BEFRIEND FAITHFULNESS. DELIGHT YOURSELF IN THE LORD AND HE WILL GIVE YOU THE DESIRES OF YOUR HEART. COMMIT YOUR WAY TO THE LORD TRUST IN HIM AND HE WILL ACT.

LET'S PRAY. WE JUST THANK YOU FOR A GREAT MEETING THIS MORNING.

WE PRAY FOR A TIME FILLED WITH YOUR WISDOM. LORD, THE ABILITY TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE SOUND DECISION, GOOD DECISIONS FULL OF WISDOM.

WE PRAY NOW FOR THE COMMISSIONERS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

THANK YOU THAT YOU HAVE PLACED THEM IN POSITION TO ACT THAT YOU WILL ASK AND YOU WILL COME THROUGH, YOU WILL PROVIDE ANSWERS AND WE THANK YOU FOR BLESSING THIS MEETING IN

JESUS'S ME. AMEN. >> SPEAKER: PLEASE JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF OUR FLAG OF THE UNITED OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY

AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> SPEAKER: PLEASE BE SEATED. WE WILL NOW HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT

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REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS WILL HAVE THEIR OWN PUBLIC COMMENT. ANY PERSON WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

EACH PERSON WILL BE PROVIDED FREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND SHALL COMPLY WITH THE POOR'S ROLE OF DECORUM. COMMENTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER AND MAY NOT INCLUDE A DEMAND FOR AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD. NO PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH PERSONAL AND PERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS WORK WITH BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR. MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ANY DESTRUCTIVE DISAPPROVAL. ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS OVERHEAD MATERIAL PLEASE PRESENT THAT TO THE STAFF OF THE CLERK OF THE COURT TO BE

ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS ROBERT NORWOOD AND I LIVE AT 4860 IN HASTINGS. I BROUGHT MY SIGN THIS MORNING IN CASE I GET TONGUE-TIED I CAN JUST NUDGE HIM AND HE WILL BE ABLE TO GET MY POINT ACROSS.

I COME HERE AS AN ADVOCATE FOR DEEP CREEK AND ALSO TO SEE IF WE CAN GET TO BE ABLE TO USE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CI 13 FOR A BOAT RAMP TO BE ABLE TO REMOVE SOME TRASH DOWN THERE. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF HISTORY.

I HAVE GONE DOWN THERE AND SPOKEN WITH THE RESIDENTS AT THE MOUTH OF DEEP CREEK AND ST.

JOHNS RIVER. AT THE WORST OF RED HEN MATTHEW AND IRMA, I SAID WHAT'S THE WORST YOU HAVE SEEN DOWN THERE AND THEY STOOD OUT THERE AND THEY INDICATE TIDE WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT SIX FOOT ABOVE NORMAL. THAT'S THE WORST I HAVE SEEN IT.

WELL, AT MY HOUSE, THE PAVEMENT IN FRONT OF MY ROAD IS AT 12 FOOT.

AND I STAYED WITH WATER OVER IT FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS, AND THAT'S ONLY SIX MILES AWAY.

I WATCHED THE WATERS FLOW ACROSS CI 13 DOWN GEORGE MELLO ACROSS AGRICULTURAL LAND BECAUSE DEEP CREEK IS IN DEEP ANYMORE. IT'S BEING TURNED INTO A TRASHY SWAMP. YOU KNOW, WHEN DEBRIS FLOWS DOWNHILL ÃDEBRIS FLOWS DOWN THE CREEK AND IT STARTS SNACKING TREES AND BRANCHES AND SEDIMENTATION, IT FORMS A DELTA DAM. WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF MILES IN FLAGLER STATES OF DISHES THAT REQUIRE THE WATER TO BE ABLE TO FLOW OUT TO THE ST. JOHN'S RIVER.

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HE HAD THE PERMITS IN HAND AND THE MEMO READY TO GO IN THE PLAN AFTER IRMA, HE SAID LET'S DO THIS THING. AND THEN THE OTHER GUY STEPS UP AND SAYS NO, IT'S A FLOODPLAIN.

THE WATER CAN FLOW AROUND IT. IT'S NO LONGER ELIGIBLE. THAT MONEY AND NOT PERMITTING, THAT BREAKS.T'S GONE. SO ANYWAY, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER GIVING THAT APPROVAL OF A BOAT RAMP ON THE SELL SIDE OF CI 13. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

I REMOVED SOME TRASH DOWN THERE IF YOU DO IT. THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING.

SHERRY BADGER, 2772 S. COLLINS AVENUE. I HAVE MORE PICTURES FOR YOU ALL. OKAY THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE DITCH.

THIS DITCH IS FLOWING SOUTH ON COLLINS AVENUE. IT'S COMING OUT OF WESTGATE PLAZA PARKING LOT OVER THE DRIVEWAY. IT GOES DOWN TOWARDS 16 NORTH AND THEN FLOWS BACK SOUTH. THIS IS WHAT I TOLD YOU, THE ELEVATION WAS WRONG.

YOU CAN SEE IT IS WRONG. AND I'M JUST GETTING IT ON PUBLIC RECORD.

THIS IS A FATALITY OUT THERE IN FRONT OF WESTGATE PLAZA PARKING LOT.

THIS IS HOW THEIR FIRE EXTINGUISHER IS GUARDED BECAUSE IT'S BEEN RUN OVER SEVERAL TIMES. THIS IS HOW THE COUNTY PLANNED FOR THIS ONE TO GO IN.

NO SETBACKS RIGHT AGAINST THE PROPERTY LINE, LESS THAN 12 INCHES AWAY FROM THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD. AND THAT'S JUST A SEMI-PARKED ON TOP OF THE CULVERT.

BUT I WANTED TO GET THESE ON PUBLIC RECORDS AS YOU WALK AND SEE WHAT YORK COUNTY STAFF IS IMPROVING. BECAUSE IT'S FLOWING SOUTH, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I TOLD YOU FROM THE FIRST DAY I CAME HERE THAT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. AND IT FELL UPON DEAF EARS. THANKS.OD BLESS.

HAVE A GOOD DAY. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AM KEVIN K I'M FROM JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, JACKSONVILLE BEACH.

I RUN A PROGRAM CALLED OPERATION YOU HOPE. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING IN SOME OF JACKSONVILLE'S WAS CHALLENGED ZIP CODES AND NEIGHBORHOODS FOR THE LAST TWO DECADES, 20 YEARS.

I'M VERY PROUD OF THE WORK WE'VE DONE. WE ARE A FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATION THAT BELIEVES SECOND CHANCES MATTER. WE WERE WAY AHEAD OF OUR TIME TWO DECADES AGO WE GOT INVOLVED IN THIS WORK. WE CONNECTED THE DOTS ON THE IMPACT CRIMINAL RECORD HAS TWO CONTINUING TO PERPETUATE CRIME AND THE FURTHER DECAY THAT HAPPENS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. I AM VERY PROUD THAT WE CONNECTED OVER THE FIRST FOR PRESIDENTIAL MINISTRATION AND I WORKED WITH THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION AND HELP PUSH FOR THE FIRST FEDERAL SETBACK THAT WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR.

WE HAD VICE PRESIDENT PENCE AND IVANKA TRUMP AND OUR GOVERNOR'S OFFICE FOR A GREAT DISCUSSION A FEW WEEKS AGO. THE GREAT PART ABOUT THIS ISSUE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST BIPARTISAN ISSUES IN OUR COUNTRY AND THAT IS HOW CAN WE ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF REDUCING RECIDIVISM IN OUR COUNTRY. I WANT TO EXPLAIN. READY FOR WORK AS A PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR 20 YEARS. VERY INTENTIONAL.

WE WERE IN CLOSE TO 14 PRISONS AND WORKED THROUGHOUT JAILS ALL IN THE AREA GOING AHEAD TO CONNECT WITH OUR FOLKS. ONCE THE: WE PROVIDE A YEAR-LONG PROGRAM WITH CASE MANAGEMENT, PROVIDE HOUSING, VOUCHERS, ADDRESS MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES, EACH PERSON IS ASSIGNED A CASE MANAGER. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT WE DO, THE SWEET SPOT OF OUR WORK, IS A FACT WE ARE EMPLOYMENT CENTRIC.

WE WORK WITH EMPLOYERS AND WE HAVE CLOSE TO 300 AND JACKSONVILLE NOW HAVE AGREED TO HIRE OUR FOLKS. THE READY FOR WORK PROGRAM, IT REALLY TALKS ABOUT THE IMPORTANT PARTNERSHIP OF FAITH, BUSINESS, COMMUNITY AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE.

THE COLLABORATION OF ALL OF THOSE PARTNERS. ONE OF THE THINGS I'M MOST EXCITED ABOUT IS A GREAT RETURN ON INVESTMENT OUR WORK HAS SEEN.

WILL BE JARRION STREET RIGHT IN OUR COUNTRY, IT'S A GREAT PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAM THAT WE

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THE BENEFIT TO TAXPAYERS BY REDUCING THE COST OF INCARCERATION, THE BURDEN TO TAXPAYERS IS GREAT. WE ARE INTRODUCING A WHOLE NEW GROUP OF WORKERS TO THE WORKFORCE. WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND I THINK WE WILL BE HERE IN ST.

AUGUSTINE AS WELL. OF COURSE, LIFE COACHES AND MENTORS WE ASSIGN, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT IS RECONNECTING FAMILIES AND CHILDREN.

WE HAVE HAD A PROGRAM NOW THAT STARTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO DOING THAT.

I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN ST. AUGUSTINE. WE HAVE HAD A GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS COMMUNITY WHO HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD OF THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

WE HAVE HAD OVER 98 DONATIONS OF AVERAGING 1600 TO KIND OF SEED THIS WORK AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE YEARS TO COME AND WE COULDN'T BE MORE HONORED AND EXCITED TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO DO THAT HERE IN ST.

AUGUSTINE. THANK YOU. I TRY TO PACK AND ALLOTTED THREE MINUTES. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR SPEAKING SO FAST.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

I AM CURTIS HAZEL AND MY ADDRESS IS 5 SEMINOLE DOCTOR, ST. AUGUSTINE, FL.

32804. I SERVE AS A VOLUNTEER INSTRUCTOR AT ST. JOHN'S COUNTY JAIL. I LEFT THE BUSINESS SECTOR IN 2017 AND JOINT OPERATION NEW HOPE AS FULL-TIME STAFF. I BELIEVE RECIDIVISM IS AN ISSUE AN HOUR COMMUNITY THAT HAS A SOLUTION. LIKE TO SHARE THE TRUE STORY OF TWO YOUNG MEN COUNTY RESIDENTS, TRAVIS AND JAMES, BOTH MEN WERE ARRESTED AND INCARCERATED FOR DRUG RELATED CRIMES.

EVERYTHING THAT COULD GO RIGHT FOR JAMES UPON HIS RELEASE. HE HAS A RESPONSIBLE AND COMPASSIONATE RELATIVE WHO TOOK COMMAND AND PROVIDED HIM WITH HOUSING, AND HANDYMAN WORK UNTIL I COULD GET A JOB AT A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT. HE WORKED HARD FOR TWO WEEKS AND GOT HIS FIRST PROMOTION. HIS RELATIVE HAPPENED TO KNOW A LOCAL PASTOR WHO ARRANGED TO HELP JAMES IN A VEHICLE SO HE COULD GET BACK AND FORTH TO WORK.

HE GOT CONNECTED WITH SOME POSITIVE ROLE MODELS IN A 12 STEP PROGRAM.

A COUPLE OF WEEKS LATER, I MET JAMES THROUGH MUTUAL FRIEND. HE HAD HEARD ABOUT OPERATION NEW HOPE AND ASKED ME IF I COULD HELP HIM. AFTER MEETING HIM I RECOMMENDED HIM TO A LARGE GROWING EMPLOYER IN OUR COUNTY THAT HAS ENTRY-LEVEL JOBS STARTING AT $15 AN HOUR.NEARLY TWICE JAMES PLAZA WAGE AT THE RESTAURANT AFTER CAREFUL CONSIDERATION, THIS EMPLOYER HIRED JAMES IN THE LATEST REPORT I RECEIVED IS THAT HE'S BEEN EXCEEDING EXPECTATIONS AND THAT THEY EVEN HELPED HIM PURCHASE A NICER CAR. TRAVIS'S STORY IS A DIFFERENT ONE, THOUGH.PON RELEASE FROM JAIL, HE HAD NOWHERE TO GO EXCEPT FOR THE SAME DRUG DEN WHERE HE WAS ARRESTED.

HE HAD NO SUPPORT STRUCTURE. TRAVIS HAD LEARNED ABOUT READY FOR WORK WHILE IN JAIL AND WAS EXCITED ABOUT COMING TO JACKSONVILLE IN APPLYING FOR THE PROGRAM.

HE FELT THAT IT COULD BE DIFFERENT FOR HIM THIS TIME. THE PROBLEM WAS HE DIDN'T HAVE A WAY TO GET THERE. A COUPLE OF US FAMILIAR WITH TRAVIS'S STORY OFFERED TO GIVE HIM RIGHT TO JACKSONVILLE, BUT IT WAS GOING TO BE LATER IN THE WEEK, WHICH MEANT HE NEEDED TO HANG ON FOR A FEW DAYS AND AVOID THE EVER PRESENT ALTERNATIVE OF RETURNING TO A LIFE OF SELF-DESTRUCTION. I EXCHANGED A FEW PHONE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES WITH TRAVIS AFTER HE WAS RELEASED, BUT WITHIN 48 HOURS, HE STOPPED ANSWERING CALLS.

HE WAS GONE. COMMISSIONERS, THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT JAMES BENEFITED FROM IDEAL CIRCUMSTANCES PROVIDED TO THOSE AROUND HIM AND TRAVIS DID NOT.

MEN AND WOMEN RETURNING FROM INCARCERATION FACE MANY OBSTACLES.

ALL IT TAKES IS FOR ONE THING TO GO WRONG AND THE COST OF THE INDIVIDUAL AND THEIR FAMILIES AND ULTIMATELY OUR SOCIETY IT IS BECOMING TOO MUCH FOR US TO BEAR.

THERE IS A SOLUTION AND IT'S CALLED READY FOR WORK. WE CREATE THE CONDITIONS NECESSARY FOR THOSE WE SERVE TO TRANSFORM THEMSELVES AND TO BECOME POSITIVE CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS JAMES. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN SUPPORTING OUR EFFORTS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

TIME. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. IN SUPPORTING OUR EFFORTS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: MY NAME IS BRENDA KAUFMAN I LIVE AT 871 [WORD] I HAVE BEEN INSPIRED BY THESE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT YOU SEE BEHIND ME TO COME HERE TODAY TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION AND WE ARE CONCERNED AND WE ARE WORRIED.

WE SEE ALL OF THE GROWTH AND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE WONDER WHAT THE ULTIMATE LONG-TERM IMPACTS ARE GOING TO BE, BUT THE IMPACTS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE LOSS OF HABITAT, THE LOSS OF BIODIVERSITY. WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACTS THAT OUR ACTIVITIES ARE HAVING ON CLIMATE CHANGE IN THE WAY THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS GOING TO IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY. ND WE ARE COMING HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE ALSO PAY ATTENTION TO THESE THINGS AND TO BE MINDFUL AND TO CARE ABOUT THESE THINGS AS THESE YOUNG PEOPLE DO THAT ARE HERE TODAY TO LET YOU KNOW EXACTLY HOW THEY FEEL.

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I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN A MORE SUSTAINABLE WAY.

IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN WAYS THAT ARE GOING TO NOT MAKE THE SITUATION WITH THE ENVIRONMENT WORSE, BUT TO WORK WITH SUSTAINABLE TECHNOLOGIES. ST. AUGUSTINE COULD BECOME A BEACON OF ECOTOURISM. WE COULD ADVERTISE TO THE NATION THAT THIS IS A PLACE WHERE YOUCOME AND YOUR FOOTPRINT IS NOT GOING TO MAKE THINGS WORSE FOR THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY.WE CAN ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES, THE HOTELS, TO ENGAGE MORE SUSTAINABLE PRACTICES. REDUCE THEIR WATER USE. RELATED TO STAIR ELECTRICITY AND THEIR OTHER TYPES OF CONSUMPTION. REDUCE THEIR WASTE STREAM.

I THINK THAT THE BUILDING AND THE SUBDIVISIONS AND HOUSES THAT ARE GOING UP ALL OVER THIS COMMUNITY PROBABLY NEED TO BE CHECKED, FRANKLY. I THINK THERE IS SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT GOING ON AND IT NEEDS ÃI DRIVE AROUND AND ALL I SEE ARE BULLDOZERS JUST PLOWING OVER FORESTS AND TREES, AND I WORRY THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY GENUINE CONSIDERATION ON BEHALF OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE POWER TO HAND OUT THOSE BUILDING PERMITS, TO THINK WHAT IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ON THIS? ARE THERE GENERAL IMPACT ASSESSMENTS BEING DONE IN THESE AREAS? WHAT IS BEING DONE TO PROTECT WHATEVER WILDLIFE WAS LIVING IN THOSE SPACES. SO I AM HERE TODAY TO IMPLORE YOU TO THANK YOU, TO PLEASE LISTEN TO THE VOICES THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO HEAR AND CONSIDER VERY SERIOUSLY THE FUTURE, NOT JUST OF ST. AUGUSTINE AND NORTHEAST FLORIDA BUT ALL OF FLORIDA AND ALL OF THIS COUNTRY AND THIS PLANET. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

TIME. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: I AM CHASE HAROLD I LIVE AT 59 KING AVENUE ST. AUGUSTINE, 22084. I'M A STUDENT AND A SENIOR STUDYING ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE AND I LIKE TO THINK MR. OLSON FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HERE, IN OUR GROUP WE ARE HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS THE TOP OF THE PRIORITY LIST OF ST. AUGUSTINE. SOMEONE WHO WORKS IN A RESTAURANT I SEE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THAT WE ALL CONTRIBUTE TO HEAR AND I ALSO KNOW HOW MUCH TOUR AS A MEANS TO OUR ECONOMY AND TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.

WITHOUT IT WE WOULD ALL PROBABLY BE VERY POOR. SO IF THIS IS NOT A TOP OF OUR PRIORITY LIST WE WILL PROBABLY BE THE TOP OF CLIMATE CHANGE'S CATASTROPHEB THE YEARS CONTINUING. EMMA THOMPSON STARTED COLLEGE FLORIDA HAS BEEN HIT WITH MULTIPLE DESTRUCTIVE CATEGORY 4 OR FIVE HURRICANES, HURRICANE MATTHEW AND IRMA DECIMATED OUR TOWN TWO YEARS IN A ROW. NEIGHBORHOODS LOST THEIR HOMES, SAVINGS AND LIVELIHOODS IN THESE STORMS. AND IF THAT NUMBER IS NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU, THEN PERHAPS THE ECONOMIC COST WILL BE ALARMING ENOUGH. HURRICANE DORIAN HAD NOT HIT THE HAMAS, THE EFFECTS WOULD'VE BEEN HIT HERE AND PEOPLE WE KNOW PROBABLY WOULD'VE BEEN LOST. INCREASING GLOBAL TEMPERATURE WE SEEN OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS IT'S UNPRECEDENTED THROUGHOUT HISTORY AND UNDOUBTEDLY AT THE GYM.

WITH WARMER CLIMATE WE SEE MORE MORE WATER LONGER MORE POWERFUL HURRICANE SEASONS AND THIS TREND WILL GET WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER. WE WILL CONTINUE BE HIT AND FLOODED EACH YEAR WORSE THAN THE LAST. WE ARE ASKING OURSELVES WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS ONLY GOING TO JUST LET IT CONTINUE TO HAPPEN TO US.

THE POWER TO CHANGE THIS LIES IN YOU. THE ONLY WAY WE FIGHT BACK AGAINST BIG [INDISCERNIBLE] IS THE LEGISLATE. TO SAY NO TO THOSE FOR PROFIT.

WE WILL LOOK BACK ON THIS TIME AND ASKED WHERE WERE WE, WHAT DO WE DO.

WERE WORRIED THIS CRITICAL TIME WE COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING WHEN YOUR CHILDREN OR YOUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN ASKING WHAT HAPPENED TO ST. AUGUSTINE? WHAT WAS IT LIKE, OR WHAT DID A CORAL REEF LOOK LIKE, DID YOU EVER SEE ONE? WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? OR WILL YOU NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE DID SOMETHING? WE ALSO BACK AND SAY THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO. I'M JUST ONE PERSON.

IF WE ALL THINK LIKE THAT, NOTHING WILL GET DONE. GRETA THUNBERG AND MANY OTHERS HAVE REFUSED THAT NOTION. SO CAN WE. RIGHT NOW RIGHT HERE WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO SAVE OURSELVES, OUR CITY AND THOSE AROUND US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD MORNING. >> SPEAKER: I'D LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD WERE HAVING A SCEPTER TODAY. I AM JARED OLSON 1123 209 HARBOR VISA CIR. IN ST.

AUGUSTINE. 32080. REPEATING THE SENTIMENT FROM MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE SHOWN UP HERE TODAY TO VOICE OUR VERY DEEP CONCERNS FOR WHAT'S

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BUT I WOULD LIKE TO IMPLORE THE BOARD HERE TO CONSIDER THE VERY REAL EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW THIS IS NOT ONLY SOME ABSTRACTION THAT WE MAY SEE IN THE NEWS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE WILL SEE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT WE ARE ALREADY SEEING. I LIVED ON AN ISLAND IN 2017. UNTIL MY HOUSE WAS DESTROYED BY HURRICANE IRMA AND I WAS HOMELESS FOR A MONTH. OF COURSE, ERIC KANE IS SOMETHING ONE COMMUNITY CANNOT DO. ONE COMMUNITY CANNOT PREVENT.

THIS IS A LARGE, CYCLICAL PATTERN HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

WE HAVE A CHOICE WHETHER WE WILL TAKE CONCRETE POLICY ACTIONS AND PUT THIS AT THE TOP OF OUR AGENDA TO BOTH REDUCE OUR PARTICIPATION IN CONTRIBUTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND MITIGATING THE EFFECTS OF WHAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. I CAN ONLY SEE ÃAND THIS IS REPEATING A SENTIMENT FROM MY PROFESSOR DOCTOR KAUFMAN SPOKE SO ELOQUENTLY.

DRIVE DOWN U.S. 1 AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND ALL YOU SEE IS NEW DEVELOPMENTS.

I'D LIKE TO IMPLORE THE BOARD TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT SACRIFICING HABITAT THAT WE HAVE IN THIS COMMUNITY, THE VERY SPECIAL HABITAT THAT DRAWS SO MANY PEOPLE HERE, NOT ONLY FOR ITS OWN BEAUTY BUT FOR TOURISM DOLLARS, IF WE ARE SACRIFICING LEVEQUE ON THE GUILLOTINE F ECONOMIC GROWTH, IS THAT REALLY WHAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTS IN THE FUTURE? THIS IS NOT ONLY HURTING OUR COMMUNITY AT THE MICROECONOMIC LEVEL, THIS IS CONTRIBUTING TO A LARGER GLOBAL PATTERN OF DEFORESTATION. THESE ARE LARGE THINGS AND WE ARE JUST ONE SMALL COMMUNITY, BUT WE DO HAVE A CHOICE TO PUT THESE THINGS AT THE TOP OF OUR POLICY AGENDA. OF COURSE, WE CANNOT STOP, AS I SAID, THESE LARGER PATTERNS HAPPENING. IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS NOT GOING TO ACT ON ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION OR CLIMATE CHANGE, THE STATE GOVERNMENT IS NOT GOING TO ACT ON IT, THEN THAT RESPONSIBILITY, AS WITH ANY COMMUNITY GOVERNMENT, FALLS ON THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. SOMEDAY IN THE FUTURE WHEN THERE ARE NO FORESTS AROUND HERE, WHEN THE WATER IS TOO ACIDIC TO HAVE REDFISH OR RED SNAPPER, WHEN NO ONE COMES TO ST. AUGUSTINE ANYMORE BECAUSE ALL OF THE APARTMENT IS DESTROYED, PEOPLE WILL WONDER,

DID YOU DO ANYTHING? THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: I AM FROM FLAGLER COLLEGE. I AM HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THE SERIOUS ISSUE ÃCAN YOU GIVE US

YOUR ADDRESS? >> SERIOUS ISSUE OF CLIMATE CHANGE WHICH IS CURRENTLY POSING GREAT X ESSENTIAL DRIVE TO THE COMMUNITY. THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE HAVE ALREADY BEEN SEEN THROUGH BOTH RISING SEAWALL DEMO WATERS AND INTENSIFY HURRICANES. TO ILLUSTRATE THE DANGERS FACING OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD DEVELOP A CLIMATE CHANGE AT THE TOP OF YOUR POLICY AGENDA, I WILL BE READING AN EXCERPT FROM A SUMMARY OF THE REPORT. ON THE HEELS OF ITS AUGUST SPECIAL REPORT OF CLIMATE CHANGE IN LAND THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE, IPCC IN LATE SEPTEMBER PUBLISHED ANOTHER SPECIAL REPORT.

THIS ONE FOCUSES ON OCEANS AND ICE. THIS LATEST REPORT WAS AUTHORED BY 104 CLIMATE SCIENTISTS FROM 36 COUNTRIES REFLECTING FINDINGS AND 6981 STUDIES.

IT CONTAINS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION. IT'S SUMMARY IS FOR POLICY MAKERS ON RUNS 45 PAGES. SOME KEY POINTS CAN BE SUMMARIZED AS FOLLOWS.

SEE LEVEL RISE IS ACCELERATING BECAUSE OF THE GREENLAND AND ANTARCTICA AGENCIES ARE MELTING AT AN INCREASING RATE. THE OCEANS WHILE STILL BASIC ARE BECOMING MORE ACIDIC WHICH WILL HAVE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES FOR CORAL REEFS AND MARINE LIFE.

THE OCEANS ARE WARMING RAPIDLY LEADING TO MORE FREQUENT GREEN HEAT WAVES WHICH ALSO DAMAGE CORAL REEFS. RESEARCHERS ARE BEGINNING TO SEE MORE OF THE INTENSE HURRICANES IN CATEGORY 4 AND FIVE WHICH IN COMBINATION WITH HIGHER SKILL LEVELS AND INCREASED PRECIPITATION POST INCREASING RISK AND DAMAGES TO COASTLINES.

MELTING PERMAFROST COULD BECOME A MAJOR FEEDBACK LOOP ADDING CARBON EMISSIONS AND GLOBAL WARMING AND SIGNIFICANT CONTINUED FOSSIL FUEL BURNING. OCEAN OXYGEN LEVELS ARE DECLINING WHICH IN COMBINATION WITH RISING TEMPERATURES DRIVES MARINE SPECIES AWAY FROM THE

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>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> I AM SABRINA AND MY ADDRESS IS OUTSIDE OF THIS COMPANY BUT I CURRENTLY RESIDE IN FLAGLER COLLEGE I AM HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THE SERIOUS ISSUES OF CLIMATE CHANGE WHICH IS CURRENTLY POSING A GREAT EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMUNITY. I WILL ALSO BE READING AN EXCERPT FROM YALE 'S SUMMARY OF THE IPCC REPORT. ANTARCTICA ICE POSES SUBSTANTIAL UNCERTAINTIES IN TERMS OF FUTURE SEALEVEL RISE. THE ANTARCTIC ICE SHEET ALONE HAS ENOUGH ICE TO RAISE THE C LEVELS BY MORE THAN 10 FEET AND RECENT STUDIES HAVE CONCLUDED THAT A LARGE SECTION OF THE ICE SHEET HAS GONE INTO A STATE OF IRREVERSIBLE RETREAT.NOTHER REASON FOR RECENT STUDY SAID DELAYING FIVE YEARS REACHING THE THRESHOLD OF PEAK CARBON EMISSIONS WILL ADD ABOUT EIGHT INCHES TO SEALEVEL RISE. OSTLY AS A RESULT OF ANTARCTICA MELTING EXTREME SEALEVEL EVENTS CAUSED BY LONG-TERM SEALEVEL RISE IN COMBINATION WITH FACTORS LIKE WIND DRIVEN STORM SURGE AS I CURRENTLY TEND TO BE ONCE PER CENTURY EVENTS, BUT RESEARCH INDICATES THEY WILL BECOME MORE COMMONPLACE. IN MANY LOW-LYING MEGACITIES AND SMALL ISLANDS SUCH EVENTS ARE PROJECTED TO OCCUR ANNUALLY BY 2050.

RISK IN SOME AREAS CAN BE LESSENED BY SLOWING GLOBAL WARMING AND USING ADAPTATION TECHNOLOGIES, BUT THE IPCC REPORT NOTES THESE CAN COST TENS TO HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR. WHILE HUMAN EMISSIONS OF CARBON CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING BY INCREASING THE ATMOSPHERIC GREENHOUSE EFFECT, ABOUT 25 TO 30 PERCENT OF GLOBAL CARBON EMISSIONS ARE ABSORBED BY THE OCEANS ESULTING IN A CHEMICAL REACTION THAT CREATES CARBONIC ACID AND DECREASES OCEAN WATER PH. D IPCC REPORT NOTES THAT IT'S DECREASE THE AVERAGE OCEAN PH FROM 8.2 TO 8.1. BECAUSE OF ITS MIXED SCALE MEANS THE OCEANS ARE 25 PERCENT MORE ACIDIC THAN BEFORE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION.

BY MEETING THE PARA'S CLIMATE AGREEMENT THE TARGETED TWO DEGREES CELSIUS THE WORLD COULD LIMIT THE OCEAN ACIDIFICATION TO 40 PERCENT BUT IN A WORST-CASE HIGH ADMISSIONS SCENARIO, THE OCEANS COULD BECOME 150 PERCENT MORE ACIDIC THAN THEY WERE IN 1850.

THE IPCC REPORT NOTES THAT EVEN IF THE PARIS TARGET COULD BE REACHED, ALMOST ALL WARM WATER CORAL REEFS ARE PROJECTED TO SUFFER SIGNIFICANT LOSSES OF AREA AND LOCAL EXTENSIONS.

THESE DECLINES IN CORAL REEFS WILL GREATLY DIMINISH THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE TO SOCIETY SUCH AS FOOD PRECISIONS, COASTAL PROTECTION AND TOURISM.

HIGH ADMISSIONS SCENARIOS ALSO POSE A SIGNIFICANT RISK TO OTHER SHALE FORMING SPECIES.

WE NEED YOU TO PUT CREATING COMPANY POLICY RESPONSES TO CLIMATE CHANGE AT THE TOP OF YOUR AGENDA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I WILL BE SEEING YOU AT YOUR NEXT MEETING WITH MORE PEOPLE. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DOCTOR DINEEN I RESIDE AT 17 GRANT ST. APARTMENT A 32084. I AM HERE TOÓTWO THINGS.

I WANT TO MAKE TWO POINTS IN MY TIME WITH YOU TODAY. ONE IS TO OFFER A DIFFERENT KIND OF ARGUMENT THAT UNDERLINES THE KIND OF MORAL URGENCY THAT YOU HEAR IN THE VOICES OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY. AND THE OTHER IS TO MAKE THE POINT THAT YOU ARE SITTING IN THE SEATS THE BEST PREPARE YOU FOR REAL ACTION.

THE DECISIONS THAT MATTER ARE LOCAL. THE PROBLEM IS GLOBAL, BUT THE DECISIONS THAT MATTER ARE LOCAL. NOT PERSONAL, BUT LOCAL.

AND THOSE TWO POINTS WHAT I WANT YOU TO TAKE WITH YOU FROM MY THREE MINUTES.

I'M NOT A COASTAL ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE MAJOR. I'M NOT A POLITICIAN.

I'M NOT A POLITICAL SCIENCE PERSON. I'M A THEOLOGIAN.

I GREW UP AS A PREACHER COSMIC KID GOING TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY MORNING, SUNDAY 9 A.M.

WEDNESDAY NIGHT. I WASN'T ALLOWED TO WEAR SHORTS ON ANY OF THOSE OCCASIONS.

AND I HAVE MADE THE STUDY OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH MY CAREER. SO I WANT TO MAKE THIS ARGUMENT TO YOU. IT'S A MATTER OF MORAL URGENCY THAT WE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA LOCALLY. NOT JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE ECONOMIC MATTERS AT STAKE, BUT

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THAT AT THE END OF THAT CREATION, HE CREATED HUMAN BEINGS AND PLACED HUMAN BEINGS IN THE GARDEN AND THAT OUR JOB AS HUMANS WAS TO BE STEWARDS OF THE CREATION.

AND I WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH THAT STORY REALLY BRIEFLY. GOD CREATED EVERYTHING ELSE PRIOR TO CREATING HUMANS BECAUSE WE ARE THE BEST? NO.

BECAUSE GOD NEW IN THE CREATION OF HUMAN BEINGS CANNOT LIVE ON THEIR OWN.

THAT WE REQUIRE A WORLD, AND THAT IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO FLOURISH, WE MUST TAKE CARE OF IT. THIS IS A THEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT FOR THE MORAL NECESSITY OF THESE ACTIONS. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO COME BACK TO WEEK CANNOT WAIT.

YOU ARE THE PEOPLE WE NEED TO ACT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND WE

WILL BE BACK. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING. I AM CHRIS BLANCO I LIVE 239 RED BERRY ST. AND LINCOLNVILLE. I WANT TO START BY SAYING THE EARTH IS 4.6 BILLION YEARS OLD AND THE GENUS SPECIES OUR SPECIES ORIGINATED ABOUT 200,000 YEARS AGO.

SO MATHEMATICALLY, IF YOU SCALE DOWN THE EARTH'S GEOLOGICAL TIME PERIOD TO ABOUT 46 YEARS HUMANS HAVE BEEN ON EARTH HERE FOR ABOUT FOUR HOURS WHICH MEANS OUR INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION BEGAN ABOUT ONE MINUTE AGO. IN THAT ONE MINUTE, 50 PERCENT OF THE EARTH'S FORESTS HAVE BEEN CUT DOWN A THREE PERCENT OF ALL LIFE HAS BEEN KILLED OFF CAUSING MASSIVE ECOLOGICAL IMBALANCES AND THERE IS MORE ATMOSPHERIC CO2 THAN THERE HAS BEEN IN THE PAST 3 MILLION YEARS. RESULTING IN COLLATERAL DAMAGE LIKE SEWING, LAND ICE, PERMAFROST, MORE EXTREME STORMS, MASK CORAL BLEACHING AND ACIDIFICATION AND A HIGH HUMAN DEATH TOLL. SHIFTING GEARS TO OUR FAVORITE HUMAN -INDUCED GREENHOUSE GAS IN 2018 THAT WAS A RECORD HIGH CO2 CONCENTRATION OF 407 PARTS PER MILLION.

THE HIGHEST PREVIOUS CONCENTRATION ABSENT HUMAN INFLUENCE WAS 300,000 YEARS AGO AT 300 PARTS PER MILLION. THE LAST SIX YEARS, OUR CO2 EMISSION RATE HAS BEEN 100 TIMES HIGHER THAN THAT OF THE ENTIRE ICE AGE THAT LASTED 10,000 YEARS.

FOCUSING ON THE ECONOMICS, THE FLUCTUATION OF EXTREME PRECIPITATION AND DROUGHT EVENTS STORMS AND RISING SEA LEVELS ASSOCIATED WITH CLIMATE CHANGE ARE EXPENSIVE.

THERE ARE 620,000 PEOPLE IN FLORIDA VULNERABLE TO SEALEVEL RISE LIKE ME LIVING IN AREAS AT LOWER ELEVATION LIKE LINCOLNVILLE, AND THE COAST ROSE 8 INCHES SINCE 130 IN THESE LOW-LEVEL AREAS. AND FURTHERMORE, HURRICANE IRMA COSTS FLORIDA ABOUT $90 BILLION AND DORIAN COULD COST US $15 BILLION. AND THAT'S JUST TO HURRICANES.

SO THESE SCIENTIFIC STUDIES ARE VERY COMPLICATED, BUT THE UNDERLYING THEME COULD NOT BE MORE CLEAR.INCE THE BIRTH OF OUR CIVILIZATION WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR'S SIX MASS EXTINCTIONS THAT WILL NOT ONLY AFFECT ALL VERTEBRATE AND INVERTEBRATE SPECIES BUT WILL CONTINUE TO HURT OUR SPECIES SOCIALLY AND ECONOMICALLY. THIS IS ALL THE MORE REASON THAT FIGHTING CLIMATE CHANGE SHOULD BE AT THE VERY TOP OF OUR AGENDA.

WE HAVE THE WILLPOWER, DETERMINATION, TECHNOLOGY AND INTELLIGENCE TO DO SO.

CLIMATE CHANGE AND HOW HUMANS EXACERBATE IT IS NOT THE ISSUE MEANT TO DIVIDE US TO THE ASSOCIATION OF POLITICAL PARTIES BUT TO UNITE US TO FIGHT ON, GRANDPA GREER ONE SPECIES LIVING ON WATER TO BE AWARE OF OUR IMPACT AND TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO MITIGATE OUR IMPACT ON EARTH IS ONLY RIGHT AND JUST. THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: I AM VICTORIA TROUP. I AM HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THE PRESSING ISSUE OF CLIMATE CHANGE WHICH IS A GRAVE ISSUE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THE INTERNATIONAL UNION FOR CONSERVATION OF NATURE ALSO KNOWN AS THE IUC AND HAS BEEN

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GENERATING $118 MILLION IN 2017 ALONE. BOTH FRESHWATER AND RAIN FISHING WILL BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY CLIMATE CHANGE. OCEAN ACIDIFICATION WHICH CAN DISSOLVE THE SHELLS OF MUSCLES AND CAUSE A REDUCTION IN NECESSARY PHYTOPLANKTON WILL DECIMATE MARINE FISHERIES HERE LOCALLY. IT'S PROJECTED UNLESS ACTION IS TAKEN TO CURB CARBON EMISSIONS THE OCEAN WILL BE 150 PERCENT MORE ACIDIC BY THE END OF THE CENTURY. EVEN THE SLIGHTEST DIFFERENCE IN TEMPERATURE CAN AFFECT THE REPRODUCTION OF FISH. OUR SHRIMPING SEASON HAS BEEN CUT SHORT DUE TO A LACK OF SHRUB SOMETHING LINKED TO THE WATERS GOING TO WORK FOR IN THE SUMMER IN THE REGION.

TOURISM ALSO FACES NEGATIVE IMPACTS IF THE FISHERY OFFERS. SOMETHING SEEN IN THE MUNICIPAL MARINA IN ST. AUGUSTINE OR ECOTOURISM COMPANIES SUCH AS DOLPHIN AND ECO-TOURS.

BOTH OF THESE COMPANIES DIRECTLY RELY ON THE ECOSYSTEM FOR THE REVENUE.

BUT THAT IS ABLE AMOUNT OF FISH, DOLPHINS AND OTHER CREATURES THAT PEOPLE GO ON THESE TRIPS TO SEE WILL DECLINE CAUSING LOTS OF PEOPLE TO WANT TO GO ON THE TRIPS.

WITH TOURISM DOWNTOWN THE FLOODING FROM SEALEVEL RISE WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE ECONOMY. ONE WILL NOTICE WHEN WALKING TO THE SEAWALL ON HIGH TIDE THAT THE SIDEWALKS AND STREETS ARE BEGINNING TO FLOOD EVEN WHEN IT DOESN'T RAIN.

THIS WILL ONLY WORSEN IF CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT STOPPED. THE SEA IS POTENTIALLY RISING [INDISCERNIBLE] ANOTHER THREAT OF CLIMATE CHANGE LOOMS HURRICANE.

AS USUAL ARMS WERE HIGH-STRENGTH HURRICANES ARE BEING DOCUMENTED.

WE HAVE HAD MORE CATEGORY 4 AND FIVE HURRICANES IN THE PAST DECADE.

ACCORDING TO THE UNIT FOR CONCERNED SCIENTISTS, THERE'S NOT A PROJECTED INCREASE IN HURRICANES BUT IN THEIR INTENSITY. MARIA, MATTHEW, MICHAEL ARE EXAMPLES OF THESE HURRICANES WE CAN EXPECT TWO OF WHICH DIRECTLY IMPACTED THE JOHN SCALZI AREAS OF ST. AUGUSTINE NOT HAVE NOT FULLY RECOVERED [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> MY NAME IS SHERRY LLOYD. I LIVE AT 157 OCEAN HOLLOW LANE ON VILANO, 2084.

I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THE YOUTH OF THE WORLD THAT HAS STEPPED UP TO BRING TO ALL OF OUR AWARENESS. THE URGENT URGENT NEED FOR US TO STEP UP RIGHT NOW FOR NEW POLICIES TO CARE FOR OUR EARTH. I WAS BORN IN 1952 AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE EARTH SINCE THE 80S, THAT IS WHEN WE STARTED THE DECLINE FOR WHAT OUR PLEDGE STATES, AND THAT PLEDGE REALLY CAUGHT MY ATTENTION THIS MORNING. I AM A RETIRED EDUCATOR SO I USED TO LEAVE THE PLEDGE IN THE CLASSROOM AND THE PART THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WAS LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND I WOULD LIKE THAT TO SINK INTO US WHO ARE OLDER, THE GENERATIONS THAT ARE AHEAD OF THE MOST WONDERFUL YOUTH ON THE PLANET THAT HAS TAKEN THE LEAD THAT WE NEED TO STEP UP AND JOIN THEM. IF YOU NOT HAVE HEARD OF GRETA THUNBERG, SHE IS A 16-YEAR-OLD ACTIVIST FROM SWEDEN WHO AT AGE 15 SAT IN A SINGLE ÃAS A SINGLE PERSON STRIKE OUTSIDE OF HER GOVERNMENT IN SWEDEN, AND IN OVER JUST A YEAR THERE WERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THERE WERE 10 MILLION PEOPLE WORLDWIDE JOINING HER TO BRING THE AWARENESS MOSTLY TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, TO LOOK INTO THE POLICIES THAT THEY ARE ALLOWING. BUT I ALSO FEEL SHE IS BRINGING UP THE AWARENESS TO ALL OF US.

WE ALL HAVE AN INTEREST. IT IS THE PEOPLE, IT IS TIME FOR THE UNITED STATES, FOR AMERICAN REVOLUTION. WE HAVE HAD REVOLUTIONS IN THE PAST, 1776.

WOMEN'S RIGHTS, CIVIL RIGHTS, WHICH WAS SO HUGE. I DID THE BLACK TOUR HERE IN ST. AUGUSTINE AND WHAT'S SO MANY HUMANS STOOD UP FOR FOR THOSE RIGHTS.

IT'S TIME THAT WE DO THE SAME. WHENEVER ANY OF US MAKE A DECISION, I AM ASKING THAT WE ASK IS THIS A DECISION THAT WILL SUPPORT DEMOCRACY? OR IS THIS A DECISION WHICH WILL SUPPORT READ? DEMOCRACY MEANS IT'S GOING TO HELP MOST PEOPLE BENEFIT.

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SO I AM ASKING YOU TO STEP UP AND TO GET MORE INVOLVED. THERE'S A MOVIE ON YOUTUBE CALLED DRIVE THAT'S FREE AND IT TELLS US HOW WE GET INTO THIS AND IT GIVES SUGGESTIONS OF HOW WE MAKE IT OUT OF THIS. I ALSO WILL SEE YOU AT ALL FUTURE MEETINGS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. AND YOUR EFFORTS.>> SPEAKER:

ANYMORE PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING? >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING.

BJ KALAIDI WEST CITY. LET ME ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO TAKE TIME TO VIEW THE ANIMAL CONTROL WEBSITE. INFORMATION CONCERNING THE PROCEDURE TO FIND HOMES FOR ANIMALS WHICH HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED AND RUN THE STREETS IS COMMENDABLE.

NOT ONLY DO THEY MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO PLACE THESE ANIMALS LOCALLY, THEY ALSO HAVE WORKED TO PLACE THEM IN OTHER STATES. AT THE OCTOBER 1, 2019 BCC MEETING MS. LONG SPOKE ABOUT THE PRIE REPORT CREATED WITH HER NAME WHICH LED TO BUSINESS OWNERS EXPRESSING THEIR INTENSE ANGER TOWARDS HER. THIS MATTER WAS TO BE DISCUSSED AT THE END OF THE BCC MEETING.

WHEN THE MEETING WAS VIEWED BY ME, NOTHING WAS SAID AT THE END.

THE ADDRESS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF IS CONFIDENTIAL FOR THEIR PROTECTION, FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE PUBLIC ON THE PRIDE FORM OR WHEN STAFF SPEAKS WITH CONCERNED CITIZENS AND NEEDS TO BE CLEARLY STATED THE REPORT CAN BE MADE ANONYMOUSLY WITHOUT ONE'S PHONE, EMAIL OR NAME IN THE RECORD. AFTER MS. LONG HAS BEEN CONTACTED, PLEASE STATE CLEARLY THAT A FUTURE BCC MEETING PRIDE REPORTS CAN BE MADE ANONYMOUSLY FOR THE SAFETY OF CONCERNED RESIDENTS. IT'S BEEN INTERESTING THIS MORNING LISTENING TO COMMENTS.

I HAVE A COMMENT. WELL FLAGLER COLLEGE USE THEIR 60+ MILLION DOLLAR ENDOWMENT TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT SINCE THEY PAY NO PROPERTY TAXES? LET ME REPEAT IT.

WELL FLAGLER COLLEGE USE THEIR 60+ MILLION DOLLAR ENDOWMENT TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT SINCE THEY PAY NO PROPERTY TAXES? I SPOKE LAST NIGHT AT THE CITY COMMISSION SAID THE SAME THING AND OUR MAYOR, NO RESPONSE. THERE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A RESPONSE BECAUSE WE ARE SPEAKING TO THE COMMUNITY. AND YOU WILL KNOW I WILL BE BACK.

IT'S NOT A THREAT. COME HERE TO THESE MEETINGS FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, NOT TO THREATEN YOU. THAT WE ARE GOING TO BRING AGAIN IN HERE.

BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE TOLERANT OF EVERYONE WHO IS SPEAKING.

I DON'T SEE TOO MUCH TOLERANCE AND SOME OF THE MOVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST AND THAT'S GOING ON NOW IN THIS CITY. I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING ELSE.

I HAVE BEEN ATTACKED. LET IT SINK IN, FOLKS. THE CITY KNOWS ABOUT IT TOO.

AND STATE ATTORNEY CHOSE NOT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT YOU SEE, I'M NOT SCARED.

I'M NOT SCARED OF WORDS. I AM SCARED OF PEOPLE TOUCHING ME, BUT I'M STANDING HERE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT GOING TO SCHOOL AND THEY HAVE TO WORK. THAT'S THE REASON I BROUGHT UP MS. LONG'S INFORMATION THAT SHE GAVE YOU BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A RESPONSE.

I WILL SEE YOU ALL THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING? SEAMAN, MR. CHAIRMAN WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER PARKER? >> SPEAKER: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU WILL ALLOW ME TO ASK STAFF A QUESTION. MR. WANCHICK, HAVE WE DONE ANY ASSESSMENTS OF THE SUSTAINABILITY THROUGH THE COUNTY HAS OUR STAFF REVIEWED

THAT? >> MR. WANCHEK: AS THE PUBLIC WAS TALKING ON THAT ISSUE THIS MORNING, I WAS TALKING TO JAN, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNER AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE DONE A GREAT DEAL TO THE COUNTY ON SUSTAINABILITY, ON COASTAL FLOODING, ON SEALEVEL RISE, WE HAVE ADDED POLICIES, YOU'VE ADDED POLICIES I THINK WITHIN THE LAST YEAR ALONE IS VERY LIVES, SO I THINK WHAT MIGHT BE VERY BENEFICIAL ON WHAT IS A VERY COMPLEX AND MULTIFACETED ISSUE IS TO HAVE THE GROUP SIT DOWN WITH JAN AND HER STAFF AND HAVE THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT THE

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I THINK THERE'S A FUNDAMENTAL PMISUNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR ROLE HAS BEEN AND CONTINUES TO BE. IT MAY NOT BE WHAT EVERYONE WANTS, BUT I THINK WE ARE FAR

FROM BEING DORMANT ON THE ISSUE. >> SPEAKER: I APPRECIATE THAT.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOUR OFFICE CAN ARRANGE FOR >> THEY CAN EXCHANGE CONTACT

INFORMATION ON THE WAY OUT. >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> SPEAKER: I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SPOKE THIS MORNING AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE.

I WANT TO SAY COINCIDENTALLY ONE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT THE STATE MAY NOT BE DOING ENOUGH OR BEING INVOLVED IN A HAND CONSTANTLY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY MEMORY, THE STATE LEGISLATURE, THE SENATE ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE MET YESTERDAY AND TOOK UP FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY MEMORY THREE HOUR HEARING ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND RESILIENCY. THAT IS THE STATE SENATE. ALSO, GOVERNOR DESANTIS, IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY MEMORY, WHICH GOES BACK TO THE MID-SEVENTIES, FOR THE FIRST TIME THE GOVERNOR INSISTED AND HIRED A STATE RESILIENCY OFFICER AND A STATE SCIENCE OFFICER AND I THINK THAT THE STATE IS DOING MORE NOW THAN EVER BEFORE SO THAT SHOULD OFFER SOME ENCOURAGEMENT, AND I THINK THAT COMMISSIONER BLOCKER ASKED THE PERTINENT QUESTION, WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME TODAY TO SPEND DISCUSSING IT, BUT THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. I WOULD ENCOURAGE EACH OF YOU TO TALK TO THE STAFF, AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU AT ANY TIME ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. I SPENT TWO HOURS YESTERDAY MEETING WITH A RETIRED DOCTOR IN DAVIS SHORES SPOKE TO ME ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE SEALEVEL RISE, IMPACTS PARTICULARLY DRIVEN BY THE ACTION OF OUR ST. AUGUSTINE INLET.

SO THERE ARE THINGS GOING ON THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH YOU THAT YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF.

AGAIN, THANKS FOR COMING. >> SPEAKER: YES, THANK YOU. IF WE COULD CLEAN UP DEEP CREEK, IS THERE A WAY ÃWATER LEVEL THERE IS HIGH ENOUGH MOST OF THE TIME TO GET ANYTHING.

>> SPEAKER: THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF REQUESTS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HIM ON, AND THAT'S ONE WE WILL CONTINUE TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

>> SPEAKER: OKAY. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW GO ON TO ANY

[Consent Agenda]

>> NOPE >> COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> NONE.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHN SMITH >> NOT >>

>> NONE SIR I HAVE NONE. CAN I GET A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRINTED?

>> MOVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. >> SPEAKER: SECOND.

>> SPEAKER: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE. ANY CHANGES TO THE REGULAR

[Regular Agenda]

AGENDA? >> SPEAKER: NOPE. >> SPEAKER: I DON'T HAVE ANY.

ADMINISTRATION? LEE? CAN HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE

THE REGULAR AGENDA >> SPEAKER: WITH REGULAR AGENDA AS PRINTED.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

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>> SPEAKER: THIS ITEM ACTUALLY IS A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING SO IF YOU HAD AN EXTRA DAY COMMUNICATIONS, ANY SITE VISITS NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO DISCLOSE THIS COMMUNICATION IS THE NATURE OF THE COMMUNICATIONS AND WHO THEY WERE MADE WITH.

THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> NONE

>> SPEAKER: I VISITED BOTH SITES I HAVE NO OTHER COMMUNICATION

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNS? >> NONE >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> NONE. >> SPEAKER: I HAVE VISITED THE SITE AND ATTENDED CHURCH THERE YEARS AGO ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS DADS WAS A BREACH OF THEIR AND WE ALSO ÃTHE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD AT THE CULTURAL REVIEW BOARD, DON'T HAVE TO Ã

>> IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE COULD HAVE ATTENDED THOSE SO MANY INFORMATION YOU GAIN WAS DONE IN THE PUBLIC, BUT YOU ARE THE LIAISON FOR THE CULTURAL RESOURCES REVIEW

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BOARD. >> SPEAKER: WE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PROJECT AND I ALSO TALKED TO THE NEIGHBOR A COUPLE OF TIMES ON THE TELEPHONE WITH CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING WHETHER IT WOULD AFFECT HIS PROPERTY, I GOT IN WITH STAFF AND I THINK THEY ANSWERED HIS QUESTIONS.

OKAY. STEPHEN GOOD MORNING. MERCEDES HARROLD CULTURAL RESOURCES COORDINATOR. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A REQUEST TO REVIEW THE COUNTY LIMERICK APPLICATION FOR THE MOULTRIE CHURCH AND WILDWOOD CEMETARY.

UNDER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CERTAIN CULTURAL RESOURCES ARE CONSIDERED PARTICULARLY UNIQUE OR HOLD SPECIAL SIGNIFICANCE TO THE COUNTY ON THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MAY DESIGNATE THESE AS COUNTY LANDMARKS. THE CULTURAL RESOURCE REVIEW BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE LANDMARK APPLICATION AT THEIR AUGUST MEETING.

LANDMARK DESIGNATION COVERS THE RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES OF A QUALIFIED HISTORIC PROPERTY IS RECOGNIZED BY THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS FOR THE PURPOSES OF AVAILABLE TAX EXEMPTIONS AND OTHER EXEMPTION PROGRAMS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO AID IN THE PRESERVATION OF SUCH QUALIFYING PROPERTIES. NO ALTERATION, DEMOLITION, RELOCATION, OR NEW CONSTRUCTION MAY TAKE PLACE ON A DESIGNATED LANDMARK WITHOUT THE ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY THE CULTURAL RESOURCES REVIEW BOARD. MINOR PROJECTS SUCH AS PAINTING AND ORDINARY MAINTENANCE, WORK THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE PERMITTED BY LAW, ON THE EXTERIOR AND MOST INTERIOR PROJECTS WOULD NOT REQUIRE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

THIS IS A LOCATION MAP OF THE MOULTRIE CHURCH AND WILDWOOD CEMETARY.

PIT'S JUST NORTH OF WILDWOOD DRIVE. AND HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE AREA. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE HAGAN WILDWOOD RESTORATION ASSOCIATION INCORPORATED AND THE COUNTY LANDMARK DESIGNATION DOES NOT AFFECT PROPERTY OWNERSHIP. THE CHURCH WAS LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES IN 2014. ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE CRR BE SHALL NOMINATE PROPERTIES LISTED AS COUNTY LANDMARKS AT THE APRIL 2019 CRRB MEETING THE CRRB DIRECTED STAFF TO SEND A LETTER FROM THE CRRB TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITH PROPERTIES LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER AND DETERMINE THE OWNERS INTEREST IN COUNTY LIMERICK AS A NATION.

MR. HAGAN RESPONDED TO THE LETTER WITH HIS INTEREST IN COUNTY LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

SINCE THAT TIME, STAFF HAS WORKED WITH THE HAGAN FAMILY TO PREPARE THE APPLICATION MATERIALS AND PRESENTATIONS FOR THE PURPOSE COUNTY LANDMARK DESTINATIONS.

MR. HAGAN AND MRS. HAGAN ARE AWARE ANY ALTERATION, DEMOLITION, RELOCATION, DEMOLITION OR NEW CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROPERTY WILL NEED TO BE REVIEWED BY THE CRRB.

THE COUNTY AND THE HAGAN'S GOALS ARE THE SAME TO MAINTAIN AND PRESERVE THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE CHURCH AND CEMETERY. THE TOP PICTURE IS A PICTURE OF THE CHURCH AND CEMETERY LOOKING EAST, AND THE BOTTOM IS A PANORAMIC OF THE CEMETERY AND CHURCH LOOKING WESTWARD. STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION BASED ON THE CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SECTION 3133 C FOR DESIGNATION FOR COUNTY LANDMARK. STAFF FOUND THE APPLICATION MET THE CRITERIA AND FORWARDED THE APPLICATION TO THE CRRB FOR CONSIDERATION. THE COUNTY LANDMARK APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THE PROPERTY MUST BE 50 YEARS OLD OR OLDER AND THE CHURCH WAS BUILT IN 1877 AND THE EARLIEST LEGIBLE GRAVE DATES TO 1880. IT MEETS ALL THREE OF THE SEVEN ATTRIBUTES OF INTEGRITY, AND IT MEETS ÃIT MIGHT BE SAID AT LEAST ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL CRITERIA AND IT MEETS FOUR.

STAFF RECEIVED TWO PHONE CALLS BEFORE THE CRRB MEETING FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE GENERAL PROCESS OF COUNTY LANDMARK AND THE EFFECTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AT THE CRRB MEETING AS COMMISSIONER WALTER MENTIONED, WE HAD A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WAS SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER WHO VOICED CONCERNS ABOUT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC TO THE AREA AND BE POTENTIAL FOR PEOPLE TO LITTER ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. THE CRRB HAS STAFF RESPONDED THAT THE CHARGES ARE LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES IN THAT LIST IS ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER WEBSITE SODAS PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.

THE APPLICANT STATED THEIR FAMILY REGULARLY MAINTAINS THE THE FENCE AND OUTSIDE OF THE FENCED AREA. THEY ALSO HAVE A TRASHCAN BEHIND THE CHURCH FOR PEOPLE TO USE AND THEY DID SAY THAT THEY CAN'T MONITOR EVERYONE ELSE'S ACTIONS ON THE ADJACENT

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ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> SPEAKER: I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

BUT THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL NOW HAVE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> SPEAKER: WE NOW OPEN THIS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUBER 1. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE GETTING UP FOR THIS.T APPEARS NOT TO BE. SEEING THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> SPEAKER: CAN WE HAVE A MOTION?

>> SPEAKER: I WILL MOVE IT, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> SPEAKER: MOTION TO APPROVE LMA 2019- MOULTRIE CHURCH AND WILDWOOD CEMETARY DESIGNATION TO THE MOULTRIE CHURCH AND WILDWOOD CEMETARY LOCATED AT 480 WILDWOOD DOCTOR ADOPTING FINDINGS OF FACT 1 TO 4 TO

SUPPORT THE MOTION. >> SPEAKER: SECOND. STATEMENT OF THE MOTION OF A SECOND TO APPROVE. PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5 TO 0.

CONGRATULATIONS. >> SPEAKER: THIS IS ANOTHER QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING

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>> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> NONE >> COMMISSIONER JOHNS?

>> NONE, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> NONE, SIR.

>> SPEAKER: WE HAD A DISCUSSION OF THE CULTURAL REVIEW RESOURCE REVIEW BOARD ALSO AND THEN I

HAVE BEEN ON SITE. >> SPEAKER: A REQUEST TO REVIEW A COUNTY LANDMARK APPLICATION FOR THE DIXIE HIGHWAY. THE APPLICATION WAS RECOMMENDED BY APPROVAL FOR THE CULTURAL RESOURCES REVIEW BOARD AT THE AUGUST FIT MEETING. THIS IS A LOCATION MAP OF THE OLD BRICK ROAD AS IS ALSO KNOWN AND IT EXTENDS THROUGH ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO THE BOUNDARY ADMIN INTO FLAGLER COUNTY. HERE'S AN AERIAL OF THE PROJECT AREA.

THE PROPERTY IS MAINTAINED BY ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE RESOURCE WAS LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES IN 2520 19, THE CRB HAS FOCUSED ON REVIEWING AND NOMINATING PROPERTIES ALREADY LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER AS COUNTY LANDMARKS.

THESE PROPERTIES INCLUDED COUNTY OWNED PROPERTIES AND PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTIES WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE OWNER. THIS IS AN OVERALL VIEW OF THE DIXIE HIGHWAY ON THE LEFT YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE SAND PACKED ON TOP WHICH HELPS PROTECT IT FROM SOME OF THE HEAVIER LOGGING VEHICLES AND ON THE RIGHT IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE HIGHWAY WITH THE EXPOSED BRICKS. STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION BASED ON THE CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. STAFF FOUND THE APPLICATION MET THE CRITERIA AND THE APPLICATION WAS FORWARDED TO THE CRR BE FOR CONSIDERATION. THE COUNTY LANDMARK APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THE PROPERTY MUST BE 50 YEARS OLD OR OLDER IN THE SECTION OF THE DIXIE HIGHWAY WAS COMPLETED IN 1916. IT MEETS ÃMUST MEET THREE OF THE SEVEN ATTRIBUTES OF INTEGRITY AND IT MEETS ALL SEVEN. IT MUST MEET AT LEAST ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL CRITERIA AND IT MEETS THREE OF THEM. STAFF RECEIVED NO CORRESPONDENCE PRIOR TO THE CRRB MEETING, BUT AFTER THE MEETING WE DID RECEIVE A PHONE CALL FROM A REPRESENTATIVE OF REGNIER WHO IS AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER AND WAS CONCERNED THE DESIGNATION WOULD LIMIT ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY. IT STAFF PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS AN ACTIVE ROADWAY AND THE DESIGNATION WOULD NOT AFFECT THAT ACCESS.

THE CRRB VOTED 4 TO 0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED COUNTY LANDMARK APPLICATION. THE APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS AND THE CULTURAL RESOURCES REVIEW BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED COUNTY LANDMARK APPLICATION. STAFF PROVIDES FOR FINDINGS OF FACT FOR APPROVAL AND FOR FINDINGS OF FACT OR DENIAL. AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY

QUESTIONS. >> SPEAKER: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONER SMITH? I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE WILL BE NO CHANGES TO THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ROAD AND IT WILL STAY AS IT IS SO ALL ACCESS NOT JUST THE REGNIER'S

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ROADWAY. WE STILL MAINTAIN THAT. >> SPEAKER: ANOTHER QUESTION I ALSO HAVE IS ARE THERE GOING TO BE ANY SIGN DESIGNATIONS TO THESE PROPERTIES THAT WILL COST? IS THERE ANY VALUE THAT'S BEEN ASSIGNED TO THOSE?

>> WE ARTY HAVE THE COUNTY LANDMARK PLAQUES WHICH PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE ON THEIR PROPERTY. WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE ON THE DIXIE HIGHWAYTO PUT ONE AT

THIS TIME BUT MR. AND MRS. HAGAN WOULD HAVE ONE. >> SPEAKER: I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND ONE ON DIXIE HIGHWAY. I APPRECIATE THAT. WE WILL NOW PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> SPEAKER: WE OPENED UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO 2 T NONE, MR. CHAIRMAN WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO NUMBER.

>> SPEAKER: I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE LMA 2019-03 DIXIE HIGHWAY GRANTING ST. JOHNS COUNTY LANDMARK DESIGNATION TO THE DIXIE HIGHWAY LOCATED AT OLD BRICK ROAD ADOPTING FINDINGS OF FACT 1 TO 4 TO SUPPORT A MOTION.

>> SPEAKER: SECOND. >> SPEAKER: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.

PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES 5 TO 0. MR. FRAZIER? >> SPEAKER: THIS ITEM IS A

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WITH. THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER AGAIN?

>> SPEAKER: I MET ON I BELIEVE JUNE 17 ALTHOUGH I GUESS YOU JUST MENTIONED IT'S ARTY COVERED THE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANTS, DOUG BURNETT AND I RECEIVED SEVERAL EMAILS

OPPOSING THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER SMITH?

>> MR. SMITH: I MET WITH APPLICANT COSMIC COUNSEL AND THAT WOULD BE DOUG BURNETT, ON OCTOBER 10 AT 1:30. ALSO WITH OUR STAFF PAUL OSORIO WHO WAS IN THE MEETING.

WE DISCUSSED THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEIR CONCERNS. REDESIGNING THE POND ADJACENT TO THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION, ALSO THE LIMITATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL FOR NO DRIVE-THROUGH FINANCIAL. WE DISCUSSED THE SIGNS AND REDUCING THE THREE SIDES AND HOW THAT WAS BROUGHT ABOUT. WE DISCUSSED THE VOTE ON THE PCA. THE MEETING ACCESS AND FDO T'S WORKFARE AND ADDRESS OF THE MEDIAN. WE DISCUSSED THE BUILDING HEIGHT, ENHANCED LANDSCAPE AND THE REDUCTION OF SOME OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. DISCUSSED HOW LIKEWISE IT WAS SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY DELIVERY BEING ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING.

AND THE OUTDOOR SEATING WE DISCUSSED AS WELL. I THINK THAT WILL COVER MOST OF

MY DISCLOSURE. >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER JOHNS. >> SPEAKER: I RECEIVED AN UNCOUNTED NUMBER OF EMAILS FOR AND AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT. I ALSO MET WITH DOUG BURNETT AND COUNTY STAFF REGARDING THE SAME DETAILS THAT MR. BURNETT REVIEWED WITH THE OTHER

COMMISSIONERS. >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> MR. BLOCKER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I DID SPEAK ÃI HAD A MEETING THIS PAST THURSDAY THE 10TH AT 10:30 A.M. WITH MR. DOUGLAS BURNETT WITH ST. JOHN'S LAW GROUP ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.WE DISCUSSED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, SOME CHANGES FROM THE LAST TIME THIS MATTER CAME BEFORE US, ISSUES OF THIS GOING TO BE PCA AND COMING BACK TO US WITH A RECOMMENDATION. I ALSO HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL EMAILS BOTH OPPOSING AND IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> I WAS NOT AT THE JUNE 18 MEETING. JUNE 13 AT 10:30 A.M. I HAD A MEETING WITH DOUG BURNETT WITH CARRIE MANLEY AND MIKE TYNER WERE WE DISCUSSED THE PROJECT THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS THE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA RETENTION PONDS AND MAINLY

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CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> I OVERLOOKED THE OCTOBER NIGHT MEETING THAT I HAD LAST WEEK WITH DOUG BURNETT. COVERING THE SAME ISSUES, BASICALLY, THE BOOK COMMISSIONER SMITH AND COMMISSIONER BLOCKER SPOKE TO.

>> SPEAKER: ALL RIGHT. OKAY. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. BEVERLY FRAZIER WEALTH MANAGEMENT THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE IS MAJOR MODIFICATION 2000 1808 FOR THE MOULTRIE BLUFF PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS REQUEST TO CLARIFY THE ALLOWED USES FOR THE NONRESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PROJECT TO REVISE THE SITE PLAN AND DESIGN STANDARDS AND UPDATE FACING. THIS APPLICATION WAS PREVIOUSLY RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY ON MAY 2. THE BOARD HEARD THIS ITEM ON THE JUNE 18 AND REMAINED THAT THE APPLICATION BACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY FOR CONSIDERATION BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PROPOSED REVISIONS MADE AFTER THE ORIGINAL HEARING.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF U.S. 1 SOUTH AND NORTH OF WILDWOOD DRIVE.T IS LOCATED IN A DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL SEA LAND USE AND IT IS ZONED PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. IT'S A TOTAL OF ABOUT 10 ACRES. T DOES HAVE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH. RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO THE NORTH AND AREAS OF COMMERCIAL GENERAL ALONG U.S. 1. SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOT IMPROVED AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST WITH ANY PORTION OF THE PUD MUST ALSO IS IMPROVED AND DOES HAVE SURROUNDING SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ACROSS U.S. 1. A LITTLE BACKGROUND. THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED FROM AN EXPIRED PSD IN 2000 2:09 PREVIOUS DENIALS FOR PUD REQUEST.

THE APPLICANT AND NEIGHBORS REACH A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING IN 2008 WHICH OUTLINE NEEDS MITIGATING NEIGHBORHOOD OBJECTIONS TO THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS.

THE APPROVED MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN LIMITED COMMERCIAL USES PROVIDED ADDITIONAL BUFFER FOR ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AND WAS DESIGNED WITH INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS REQUIRING A RESIDENTIAL APPEARANCE. THE MOULTRIE BLUFF PUD WAS AMENDED IN 2013 TO MODIFY FACING TO ALLOW THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION IN THE COMMERCIAL PORTION TO DEVELOP SEPARATELY.

THIS IS A LOOK AT THE CURRENT MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP. YOU CAN SEE THE 15 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS TO THE WEST OF THE COMMERCIAL AND BUSINESS PARK TYPE LAYOUT IT SHOWS THE FRONT COMMERCIAL PARTIAL WITH A STRIP CENTER TYPE DEVELOPMENT AND PARKING FRONT USIX A1 NUMBER. IT INCLUDES TWO INCLUDING THE SPECIAL USES AND ALCOHOL SALES BARITE CONSISTENT WITH CULTURAL INSTITUTION NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. IT DOES X CONCLUDE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED.

THE MAXIMUM COMMERCIAL WOULD REDUCE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM 33,000 SQUARE FEET TO 25 384 SQUARE FEET. THEY DID REMOVE THE PRECIPITATION OF THE 24-HOUR COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES IN THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN DOES INCLUDE LIMITATIONS FOR OUTDOOR SERVICE ASSOCIATED WITH THE RESTAURANTS. THEY EXPANDED THE ALLOWANCE OF TEMPORARY USE IS CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 202.05 OF OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WHICH INCLUDES OUTDOOR SEASONAL SALES AND INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF SIGNAGE ALLOWED FOR GROUND SIGNS UP TO 20 FEET IN LIEU OF 12 FEET FROM THE COMMERCIAL. IT DOES REDESIGN THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO INCLUDE A LINEAR COMMERCIAL CENTER WRITING U.S. 1 IN LIEU OF THE FIVE DETACHED BUILDINGS WITH INTERNAL PARKING. IT REMOVES THE SURFACE OF WATER RETENTION PONDS FROM THE WESTERN AND NORTHWESTERN BUFFER AREA AS DEPICTED ON THE APPROVED MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP. AS A SECOND SERVICE DRIVE CONNECTING TO THE PROPOSED RIGHT-OF-WAY OF MOULTRIE BLUFF DOCTOR ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL, REDUCES THE BUFFER DISTANCE FOR ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL FROM 30 FEET TO 20 FEET WITH THE PORTION OF THE BUFFER COMMENCEMENT FIVE YEARS AND COMPLETION ON 10 YEARS OF

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THE AREAS FOR REDUCTION WILL PROVIDE AN ENHANCED LANDSCAPING WITH CANOPY TREES 15 FEET APART AND MOVE TO 20 FEET AND INCLUDE A SIX FOOT SOLID FENCE. THIS IS A LOOK CLOSER LOOK AT THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL AS IS PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED WITH THE REVISED MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THEY DID REMOVE AN AREA THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT TO BE USED FOR STORMWATER. THAT'S BEEN LEFT UNDISTURBED. AS WELL AS THE TWO ENTRANCES WILL REMAIN THE SAME. THE SECOND AXIS HAS BEEN ADDED AND THE AREAS THAT ARE CLOUDED SHOW THE AREAS FOR THE REDUCED BUFFER. SO THE PUD DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDING THE SIGNAGE AND THE SETBACKS THE RATIO AND FLOOR AREA OF THE WAIVER INCLUDED. AS POSSIBLE MITIGATION ALTHOUGH THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL BUSINESS MAY EXCEED THE ANTICIPATED IMPACTS BASED ON THE SITE DESIGN. OUTDOOR SEATING AT THE RESTAURANT AS WELL AS THE DESTRUCTION OF MATURE TREES REDUCTION IN THE BUFFER AND THE GENERAL COMPATIBILITY WITH THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THE APPLICANT DID HOST A COMMUNITY MEETING IN JUNE TO PRESENT CHANGES THE MODIFIED MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WERE ADDRESSED TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY THE RESIDENCE AFTER THE FIRST PCA MEETING. REVISIONS INCLUDE THE REDUCED SQUARE FOOTAGE LIMITED USES REMOVAL OF THAT STORMWATER POND ADJACENT TO WEST CANAL ENHANCED LANDSCAPING WITH PRIVACY FENCE AT THE SOUTHERN BUFFER ADJACENT TO MILTRE TRAILS. AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY ON SEPTEMBER 19 AGENCY QUESTION THE PURPOSE HEIGHT OF THE SIGNAGE AND THE TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE DEVELOPMENT AT THE ACCESS MEETING ON U.S. 1 AND POSSIBLE IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY ON THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH IN THE FUTURE RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST.FTER DISCUSSION THE APPLICANT OFFERED TO REDUCED SIGNAGE TO PROHIBIT THE ALLOWANCE OF DIRECTOR FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS TO ADDRESS ADDITIONAL CONCERNS AND THE AGENCY THEN VOTED 3 TO 1 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE MODIFICATION.

THE MODIFICATION REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE OF RESIDENTIAL-C ANDREW ASSAD PROVIDES SIX FINDINGS OF FACT ARE APPROVED AND SEVEN FINDINGS OF FACT TO DENY THE REQUESTED MODIFICATION. THAT CONCLUDES STAFF DOES MY PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT HAS MORE REPRESENTATIVE ALSO HAS A POWERPOINT WITH SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS.

>> SPEAKER: I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME SO WE ILL HEAR FROM THE A.

>> SPEAKER: WE CAN BREATHE A SIGH OF RELIEF WHEN A POWERPOINT COMES UP BECAUSE I WOULD KNOW WHAT TO SAY. DOUG BURNETT ST. JOHN'S LAW GROUP.

104 SEAGROVE MAIN ST. GOOD MORNING. I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ONES WHERE YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, YOU GO TO PCA AND GET TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AN QUITE FRANKLY LAST TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE IT WORK OUT THE WAY WE SHOULD HAVE BEFORE WE GOT HERE. WE ARE MAKING CHANGES ON THE FLY.

EVERYTHING IS GOING TO SHOW YOU TODAY IS IN YOUR PACKET. NOTHING HAS BEEN CHANGED SUBSEQUENT, AND SO WE ARE HERE READY TO GO THIS TIME. WE APPRECIATE THE WISDOM THAT YOU ALL SHOWED IN REMANDING US BACK TO PCA PREVIOUSLY TO GET THIS BUTTONED UP BEFORE WE CAME HERE FOR FINAL HEARING. JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE CONTEXT.

I WANT TO SAY THIS AGAIN I WANT TO START MY PRESENTATION THIS WAY BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT.

WE COMMITTED THAT WE WOULD NOT CHANGE THE LAYOUT OF THE RESIDENTIAL BEHIND THIS PROJECT. WE ARE HERE ONLY FOR THE COMMERCIAL PORTION SO I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT MAJOR POINT THAT OUT. THE PORTION INGRAINED IN THE BACK, YOU CAN SEE ON OUR APPROVED SITE PLAN AND THEN GOING TO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING

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WE ARE NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES. JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE APPROVED PROJECT, AND YOU CAN SEE THE LAYOUT OF IT GENERALLY ACCESS POINTS ON U.S. 1 SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ARE CONTEMPLATING.

YOU CAN SEE THE NEW PROPOSED LAYOUT, ONE THING THAT WE DID NOT HAVE I THINK ADEQUATELY DEPICTED PREVIOUSLY WAS THIS FENCE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.THERE WILL BE A SIX FOOT TALL PRIVACY FENCE ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY. ONE OF THE THINGS WE ENCOUNTERED PREVIOUSLY WAS THE RESIDENCE IN THE PRIOR DESIGN WE HAD A POND ON THE NORTH SIDE WE HAVE WE DID ELIMINATE THAT POND. IN DOING SO WE ADMITTED THAT WOULD BE A NATURAL AREA INSTEAD OF RUNNING OUR FENCE AROUND THE EXTERNAL BOUNDARY WE HELD OUR FENCE INTERNAL OF THAT AREA SO IT MAINTAINS IT SUCH THAT FOLKS LIVE ON THE STREET THAT PARCEL LEFT OF THE WAY IT IS CURRENTLY. APPROVED VERSUS PROPOSED I THINK THERE'S SOME IMPORTANT THINGS TO POINT OUT HERE. UNDER THE PROPOSED 7616 SQUARE FEET OR LESS. IN THE COMMERCIAL. ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING HAS BEEN MOVED TO WHERE IT'S UNLINED PERPENDICULAR TO THE ROAD AND ANGLED SO DOES ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE BUFFERING ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING.

OUR BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN REDUCED FROM TWO-STORY TO ONE-STORY. UNDER THE CODE, AS YOU WELL KNOW, YOUR HEIGHT LIMITATION IS 35 FEET AND THEN YOU GET AN ADDITIONAL 10 FEET FOR TOWERS, ELEVATOR SHAFTS AND OTHER ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND SO YOU REALLY CAN PUSH THE HEIGHT OF A COMMERCIAL BUILDING UP TO 45 FEET. IN THIS CASE WE ARE COMMITTING TO 28 FEET. THE MAXIMUM 35 FEET WOULD BE ONLY IN THOSE AREAS WHERE WE HAD AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE WITH THE PRIMARY PORTION OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE 28 FOOT HEIGHT LIMITATION. CURRENTLY COMMERCIAL GENERAL IS ALLOWED AND WHAT WE ARE COMMITTING TO IS NO COMMERCIAL GENERAL. I WANT TO GO THROUGH AND SHOW YOU. YOU CAN SEE ON THIS EXISTING PLAN COMMERCIAL GENERAL WILL BE A LOT OF THESE BUILDINGS. YOU CAN SEE THE TEXT. THIS IS BOTH THE EXISTING TEXT FROM 2009 AND AS IT WAS MODIFIED IN 2013. THE USES AND YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE THE GENERAL BUSINESS AS A USE. THIS IS ACTUAL PHOTOCOPY OF THE TEXT AS IT'S WRITTEN CURRENTLY. AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE ALSO LET ME GO BACK AND ABOVE THOSE LISTS IS THE ACTUAL PERMITTED USES AND IT TALKS ABOUT GENERAL BUSINESS AND IT'S AS DEFINED BY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THUS BOTH AMI 2009 AND THE 2013 PUD TEXT.

AND SO IF WE LOOK AT THE DEFINITION AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND I BLOW THAT UP ON SECTION 2 TO WHERE WE CAN MEET IT YOU CAN SEE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS WITH OR WITHOUT DRIVE-THROUGH PHARMACIES WITH OR WITHOUT TRACTORS, NEIGHBORHOOD CONVENIENCE STORES WITH OR WITHOUT TRACTORS, GAS STATIONS, OIL CHANGE FACILITIES, TIRE SERVICE CENTERS, RESTAURANTS WITH OR WITHOUT DRIVE-THROUGH'S.HOSE OF USES WE ARE CUTTING BACK ON HERE BY ELIMINATING COMMERCIAL GENERAL. IT'S THE DRIVE-THROUGH ASPECT OF THOSE USES. I WILL COME BACK TO THAT IN A MOMENT.

AGAIN, COMMERCIAL GENERAL HAS BEEN DELETED. HERE'S OUR TEXT WHERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE HAVE ACTUALLY REDLINED THROUGH THOSE USES. WE HAVE ALSO ADDED A LIST OF LIMITATIONS ON OUR PERMITTED USES TO FURTHER LIMIT SOME OF THE USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED OTHERWISE UNDER THE CODE AND WE HAVE PUT THOSE IN THE PUD TEXT. THERE'S NOT HEIGHT LIMITATION LANGUAGE THAT WE ADDED AS WELL INTO THE PUD TEXT. THAT'S ALL IN YOUR PACKET.

PCA RECOMMENDATION, WE GOT A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION AS LAST TIME OUT OF PCA A REVERSAL FROM PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE WENT TO PCA THE FIRST TIME. WE DID NOT HAVE A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION OUT OF PCA. THIS TIME WE HAVE A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION.

TWO THINGS CAME UP AND PCA. ONE WAS TO REDUCE THE MONUMENT SIGNAGE.

BASICALLY WHAT WE HAD DONE WAS PUT IN OUR PUD THE MONUMENT SIGN WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE CODE AND MR. MARTIN ACT PCA POINTED OUT THAT IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE THAN WHAT'S REALLY NEEDED AND PROBABLY MORE THAN WHAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA AND ASKED US TO CUT BACK ON THE MONUMENT SIGNS WHICH WE DID. THE TEXT IS REVISED.

AND IN YOUR PACKET. ADDITIONALLY, YOUR COUNTY ATTORNEY POINTED OUT THAT DRIVE-THROUGH BANKS, YOU ARE ELIMINATING DRIVE-THROUGH'S, THAT THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL,

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WHEN YOU LOOK AT CENTERS I CAN TELL YOU THAT MY OWN COMMERCIAL CENTER WHERE MY OFFICE IS LOCATED WE DO NOT HAVE A BACK AREA FOR THE TRUCKS TO PULL UP AND MAKE DELIVERIES.

IT'S THROUGH THE FRONT WHERE THE PEDESTRIANS ARE, AND SO WHAT HAPPENS, THE CISCO TRUCK PULLS UP TO RESUPPLY OR WHATEVER TRUCK PULLS UP TO RESUPPLY TROPICAL SMOOTHIE, A RESTAURANT FOR EXAMPLE, THAT TRUCK PARKS IN THE PARKING LOT IN FRONT ROW THE PEDESTRIANS ARE EQUITY VEHICLES ÃTHE CUSTOMER VEHICLES ARE. SO WHEN THE TRUCK PARKS IN ANY ONE OF THOSE SPOTS, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY OF THE CUSTOMERS TO BE ABLE TO GO IN AND OUT WITH THEIR VEHICLES. WITH THIS DESIGN ELIMINATE THAT BECAUSE THE TRUCKS ARE ABLE TO GO AROUND BACK TO DO THE LOADING AND UNLOADING SERVICE IN THE KIND OF THING.

SO WITH THAT KIND OF A PRESENTATION BRIEF AND TO THE POINT.

I KNOW THERE MAY BE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT ALSO WITH ME TODAY IS MIKE TYNER SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AT THE END WE WILL BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THOSE AS BEST WE CAN.

P>> SPEAKER: I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. NOW WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU DON'T MIND I LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION.

IN THE MOU FROM 2008, THERE IS NUMBER ONE OF THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING SEPTEMBER 4, 2008 NUMBER ONE SAYS MOULTRIE BLUFF PLAZA WILL AGREE TO LIMIT THE PROPOSED USES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE REAR OF THE SITE AND THOSE USES GENERALLY FOUND AT THE OFFICE PROFESSIONAL CATEGORY SET FORTH A LIST OF TAXES HERE TO [READING] IT FINDS ITS WAY INTO THE NDP AND IN 2013 ON PAGE 4 IT HAS IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING TO ME PERMITTED USES AND IT HAS A THROUGH H CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS AND THEN BE GALLERIES AND MUSEUMS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THOSE CATEGORIES AND MORE THOSE INTENDED TO BE LIMITATIONS TO EACH OF THOSE MAJOR CATEGORIES? CULTURAL INSTITUTIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL GENERAL BUSINESS AND OFFICE PROFESSIONAL? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THAT IS

THE INTENT FROM EXHIBIT A. >> SPEAKER: THAT MEMORANDUM WAS NOT A DOCUMENT THAT WAS DRAFTED BY THE COUNTY. SO IT'S AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THOSE TWO PARTIES.

ITS STAFF PUBLIC OPINION ON TOP OF THAT IS THEIR VIEW IS THAT THE INTENT OF THE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT THE WAY THAT THE PLAN CAPTURED IT. IT APPEARS AS ITS SPECIFIC USES WITHIN THAT GENERAL USE CATEGORY ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THE PUD TEXT.

SO RATHER THAN THE ENTIRE BROAD CATEGORY OF A USE CATEGORY, I THINK IT'S STAFF'S INTERPRETATION THAT IT'S MORE LIMITED BACK IT WAS PICKED OUT. THAT'S WHAT WE CAN ÃIT SEEMS TO BE A FORMATTING DISCREPANCY OF ONE SPECIFIC USE NOT BEING INDENTED WITHIN A MORE GENERAL USE CATEGORY. BUT ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A PUD AND STAFF LOOKS AT THE PUD DOCUMENT FOR INTERPRETATION FOR THE TWO PRIVATE PARTIES HAVE A DISAGREEMENT ON WHAT IT SAYS, BUT I BELIEVE STAFF CAN SPEAK THAT THEY THINK IT'S A LIMITATION ON THE GENERAL BRYON

HUGHES CATEGORIES >> I THINK IT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND IT. IF NOT IT DOES APPEAR TO BE AN EXPANSION USE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE WHETHER THEY BE SUB- OR NOT IS A RESTAURANT.

AND I DON'T ÃTHAT'S AN OBSERVATION, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING TODAY THAT WILL BE AN EXPANSION OF USE. IT APPEARS THAT EVEN WITH THE REMOVAL OF GENERAL BUSINESS AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND I'M

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AS AGREED? >> YES. >> SPEAKER: WE WILL OPEN UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 FOR COMMENT. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 PLEASE COME FORWARD. WE HAVE TWO MICROPHONES.COME ON UP HERE.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING.

I AM DAVID FINLEY 206 RAINTREE TRL., ST. AUGUSTINE, FL AND MILTRE TRAILS.

WOULD YOU BUY A HOME NEXT TO A SHOPPING CENTER? WHY NOT? NOISE ALL AT TRAFFIC LOST PROPERTY VALUE SO WHY WOULD YOU ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN TO US? THIS PRESENTS AN IMMENSE HARDSHIP THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS ON THREE SIDES INCLUDING THE NEW RESIDENTIAL ON THE WEST.F THE I'VE LIVED IN ALL THREE TRAILS FOR 60 YEARS. IT IS A 40-YEAR-OLD QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD WERE TREES AND NATURE ARE PROTECTED WE WORK HARD TO ACHIEVE THE EXISTING AND OFFERED [INDISCERNIBLE] MEETINGS AND MEDIATION. THIS WAS AGREED UPON BY THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE DEVELOPER AS, QUOTE, VERY LOW INTENSITY DAYTIME ACTIVITIES THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING MATURE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND WITH THE RESIDENTIAL APPEARANCE.

A SHOPPING CENTER DEVELOPER HAS BROUGHT IN AND WANTS TO DO WHAT THEY DO.

BUILD A SHOPPING CENTER SURROUNDED BY QUIET NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE EXISTING PUD WITH ATTORNEYS ARCHITECTS AND SMALL BUSINESS WOULD BE MUCH MORE COMPATIBLE THAN DOLLAR STORES AND HOOTERS OPEN LATE INTO THE NIGHT THE EXISTING SMALL BUSINESS PARK PUD TUCKED AWAY OFF OF U.S. 1 IS VERY COMPATIBLE WITHIN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE PARK LAYOUT WILL GET THE TREES IN NATURE A FIGHTING CHANCE IS THERE'S LOTS OF AREA FOR GREENERY. THE ATTORNEY SAYS THE EXISTING TWO-STORY BUILDINGS.

I BELIEVE THAT'S INCORRECT THERE'S ONLY ONE STORY, ONE BUILDING IS TWO-STORY THAT'S THE ONE IN THE CENTER AND ALL THE OTHERS ARE ONE-STORY OFFICE STYLE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL APPEARANCE. ALL TWO-STORY WITH TOTAL MORE THAN THE ALLOWED 33,000 SQUARE FEET. TRAFFIC WHICH THEY CLAIM IS THE SAME WOULD BE MORE EVENLY DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE DAY WITH OFFICE APPOINTMENTS RATHER THAN HEAVILY STACKED IN DURING PEAK TRAFFIC HOURS WHEN A SHOPPING CENTER. THEY HAVE REDUCED OUR BUFFEMILT MOULTRIE TRAILS. MY FRIENDS SEE THE SIGNS SHOPPING CENTER SPACE FOR RENT AND ASKED ME IF I'M GOING TO IT. IT'S TOO LATE.

WORD IS OUT PROPERTY VALUES HAVE SUFFERED SOME STOCK. I'M NOT A SLICK LAWYER OR WEALTHY DEVELOPER. ON THE GUY NEXT DOOR. I'M ONE OF YOUR CITIZENS.

HOW LONG WILL OUT-OF-TOWN DEVELOPERS BE ALLOWED TO RUN NEIGHBORHOODS? SHOPPING CENTER IS SIMPLY NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE SHOPPING CENTER RIGHT ACROSS THE FENCE PRESENTS A HARDSHIP AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOODS. LOSS OF PROPERTY VALUES, NOISE, LIGHTING ALL NIGHT INCREASE TRAFFIC AND A STIGMA OF A SHOPPING CENTER NEXT DOOR. QUALITY OF LIFE IS LOST PROPERTY INSURANCE CAN BE DENIED OR INCREASED DEPENDING ON INTENSITY.

I ASK YOU AGAIN WOULD YOU BUY A HOME NEXT DOOR TO A SHOPPING CENTER? IF YOU ANSWER NO, IN ALL FAIRNESS YOU SHOULD NOT TRUST THIS UPON US.

PLEASE DENY THE SHOPPING CENTER ONCE AND FOR ALL AND KEEP THE EXISTING HARD EARNED PUD IN

PLACE. THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS KELLY THOMAS AYLETT AT 727 CAMELLIA TRL. I AM NEIGHBORS WITH THIS GENTLEMAN HERE AND I GO OFF OF WHAT HE SAID. ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS AS I HAVE LOVED AUTHOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY I STARTED IN NORTH ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND WORK MY WAY DOWN IN HERE TO MOULTRIE TRAILS WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS COUNTY. YOU TURN IN AND YOU AUTOMATICALLY FEEL AT PEACE IS BEAUTIFUL. IT'S SURROUNDED BY WOODS AND NATURE AND IT'S WHERE I DECIDED TO CALL HOME I DECIDED TO PUT MY MONEY INTO MY HOME, AND I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE.

WE ALL LIVED THERE FOR THE SAME REASONS. ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS IS SAFETY AND WHEN I MENTIONED SAFETY OF TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

THERE'S TIMES WHEN WE CANNOT EVEN GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AT THIS TIME, NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS JUST NORTH OF THOSE MOULTRIE BLUFF THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR GRANDCHILDREN STANDING DOWN THERE IN FRONT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ARE CATCHING BUSES AND THE TRAFFIC DOWN THERE IS SOMETIMES BACKUP FROM THE WILDWOOD DRIVE TO THE BAPTIST CHURCH WHICH IS PASSED THE CRATE.

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WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE DEVELOPMENTS EVERYWHERE. USED TO LIVE IN NORTH S. JOHNS COUNTY AND IT TOOK ME 15 MINUTES TO GET RIGHT NOW. NOW STUDY. WHY? TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE CONTINUE TO BUILD THAT ARE NOT OF ME.

WHAT IS GOING TO BE IN THIS SHOPPING CENTER THAT WE CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT? NOTHING. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.

>> SPEAKER: ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 PLEASE COMPORT.

GOOD MORNING. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING. I'M SURE YOU ALL RECEIVED A LETTER FROM ME YESTERDAY STATING MY CONCERNS FOR THIS NEW MODIFICATION.

SO I AM GOING TO REITERATE IT FOR EVERYONE JUST ONCE AGAIN. AMBER ETTINGER AND I RESIDE AT 214 RAINTREE TRAIL IN MILTRE TRAILS. THANK YOU.

SO ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS OBVIOUSLY WITH ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN TAKING PLACE ON U.S. 1 WHAT, 207, OLIVER, WE HAVE HAD AN INFLUX OF WILD ANIMALS IN OUR BACKYARD. GRANTED, LIKE THE NEIGHBOR STATED BEFORE ME, WE HAVE AN AMAZING NEIGHBORHOOD FULL OF ALL KINDS OF LIFE. OUR DEAR, WOODPECKERS, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF TOWELS IN OUR BACKYARD. IT'S AMAZING SPACE AND IS ESPECIALLY AN AMAZING PLACE FOR MY SEVEN-YEAR-OLD SON TO BE GROWING UP RIGHT NOW.

BUT AGAIN, WITH ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE HAD RANDOM WILD HOGS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. I FEEL THAT WITH THIS MODIFICATION I'M SURE WE WILL GET A LOT MORE BACK. THAT'S NOT MY MAIN CONCERN. MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THIS IS THE ROADWAYS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT AREA. AS SHE ALSO JUST STATED, WHEN YOU SIT AT THE ENTRANCE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IS ALSO THE EXIT BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT OF MOULTRIE TRAILS, I CAN TELL YOU, IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING FOR MYSELF, AND I'M SURE FOR THE OTHER DRIVERS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON, RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE U.S. 1 HEADING SOUTH AND NORTH AND YOU HAVE THIS INTERSECTION, YOU GOT QUA BOYD AND U.S. 1 20 FEET AWAY WITH ANOTHER INTERSECTION WITH A LIGHT AND NOW WE ARE PROPOSING 20 FEET THE OTHER WAY, SOME SORT OF INTERSECTION WHERE YOU ALREADY HAVE THE RIMANDO'S INTERSECTION AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I SEE ACCIDENTS TAKE PLACE THERE IN FRONT OF OURS AND AT THE OTHER INTERSECTION.

AND I JUST FEEL LIKE MORE TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT OF THE PROPOSED PLAZA, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE GOOD FOR US A CALL. I FEEL THERE'S GOING TO BE BIG PROBLEMS. I FEEL LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE LOTS OF TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS, POTENTIAL DEATH WHICH IS WHAT I ALREADY FEARED COMING IN AND OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND OF COURSE LIKE MR. FINLEY STATED QUALITY OF LIFE. I SIT ON MY BACK DECK EVERY DAY AND FEED MY CARDINALS.

I FEED MY BLUE JAYS AND LET MY SON RUN WILD BACK THERE WITH BHUTAN BECAUSE WE ARE WELL AWARE OF SNAKES. I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PLACES BEING DEVELOPED YOU CAN FOCUS ON ASIDE FROM MOULTRIE TRAILS AND THE BLUFF. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME

>> SPEAKER: ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 ?

WE HAVE ONE MORE COMING. >> BJ KALAIDI WEST CITY. DIDN'T LEAVE.

I'M STILL HERE. THE GANG OF NINE THAT WERE HERE EARLIER ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY LEFT. I SURE HOPE THEY STREAM THIS MEETING BECAUSE EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT AND WHT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR YEARS AND YEARS HERE IS ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITIES THAT'S BEEN DESTROYED.

GRANTED IT'S THE COMP PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHICH IS OPEN US UP TO DESTROYING NEIGHBORHOODS. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN SOLVE THAT.

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SO MY POINT FOR THAT. WHY WASN'T THIS DONE EARLIER? I WAS LOOKING AT THIS THING.

THE FIRST DENIAL THERE WERE SIX PEOPLE VOTING AT THE PCA. THIS ONE THAT GOT APPROVED, THERE'S FOUR PEOPLE. SO BASICALLY, THREE PEOPLE CAME UP AND DECIDED WHAT WAS PRESENT AT THIS TIME, THEY CAN LIVE WITH BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BECAUSE OF THE RULES AND THE LAWS. UNLESS WE CHANGE OUR COMP PLAN AND UNLESS THE RESIDENCE ARE ABLE TO ENJOY QUALITY OF LIFE LIKE MAYBE YOU FIVE CAN COUNTY AND THE CITY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE TENEMENTS, YOU DO KNOW WHERE THE TENEMENTS ARE ON U.S.

1 AND OVER THERE ON 312, WE CALL THEM THE TENEMENTS. IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE.

HOW CAN WE STOP THIS? CAN WE STOP THIS? DO WE WANT TO STOP THIS? DO WE WANT TO BE SUSTAINABILITY? NO.

THE ANSWER IS NO. WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT BUT WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT. YOU OPEN THE DOOR AND THERE'S THE FLOOD.

AND IT'S NOT WATER. SO GOOD LUCK. IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING

HOW YOU VOTE. >> WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION AND I CAN DO IT BEFORE OR AFTER BUT I HAVE A QUESTION TO STAFF.

IF I MAY. PROBABLY BEVERLY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHAT'S BEFORE US TODAY IS A MODIFICATION OF A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PUD WHICH ALLOWS COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY WHICH WAS PROVED IN 09 AND I THINK COMMISSIONER SMITH GOT TO THE MEAT OF THE COCONUT IMPOSING HIS QUESTION BEFORE WE HAD YOUR PRESENTATION AND THAT IS, TO ME, AND I HOPE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS A SPECIFIC CASE WHERE WE ARE NOT GOING TO STOP DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IN THIS CASE IT'S ALREADY ZONED FOR SOME COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES. I THINK THE ISSUE FOR ME PERSONALLY THIS MORNING IS WHAT COMMISSIONER SMITH RAISED. IT'S A MATTER OF USES. WHAT'S ALLOWED AND NOT ALLOWED AT THIS SPECIFIC SITE. AND FROM MY STANDPOINT I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS PRESENTED A BETTER PROJECT THAN WHAT IS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. YOU CAN EXAMINE ALL THE POINTS HE PRESENTED AND LOOK AT THE TWO OVERHEADS, THE APPROVED AND THEN WHAT'S PROPOSED.

I DO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT LATE NIGHT USES THAT MAY INVOLVE BARS, OUTDOOR MUSIC, THIS HAS COME UP BEFORE ON MANY OCCASIONS, ACTUALLY. SO FROM WHERE I SIT, WHERE I TEND TO GO IS I LIKE THE NEW PROJECT. I LIKE THE AMENDED PROJECT.

IT'S ALREADY ZONED FOR DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S GOING TO BE WHAT ARE THE USES AND I WOULD ENJOY SOME REALLY ÃYOU DON'T NEED TO ANSWER NOW.

IF YOU CONCUR I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WAS AN APPROVED PUD IN 09 AND NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AMENDMENT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE DISCUSSION AMONG MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ABOUT HOW WE DO WITH THE USES IF ANYONE CONCURS WITH MY THOUGHT ABOUT THE PROJECT IN GENERAL. THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> MR. BLOCKER: I WILL WAIT

UNTIL MR. BURNETT TALKS. >> SPEAKER: MR. BURNETT? >> SPEAKER: I HATE TO PUT ANYBODY IN THE HOT SEAT WITHOUT THEM BEING READY FOR IT, BUT I GUESS I WILL LOOK TO YOUR COUNTY ATTORNEY TO CONFIRM. THERE IS NO POSSIBILITY FOR BARS IN THIS PUD AS WE ARE

MODIFYING IT. >> SPEAKER: A STANDALONE BAR IS NOT PERMISSIBLE BOTH UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE ÃTHIS MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT. A STANDALONE BAR IS NOT PERMISSIBLE UNDER A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL CATEGORY.

NOW, A RESTAURANT THAT MEETS CERTAIN CRITERIA SUCH AS HAVING 150 SEATS AND BEING 2500 SQUARE FEET SUCH AS YOUR TYPICAL LARGE CHAIN RESTAURANTS, THEY CAN QUALIFY AS AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO SELL ALCOHOL WITHIN AN AREA THAT LOOKS LIKE A BAR, BUT IT DOES NOT MEET THE DEFINITION OF A STANDALONE BAR. IT'S A RESTAURANT THAT SERVES

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WITHIN THEM. >> SPEAKER: THAT'S THE POSITION FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. NOTHING WOULD PREVENT, HOWEVER, EXPRESSLY STATING AS A

CONDITION THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY STANDALONE. >> AND IF IT IS RESIDENTIAL-C, THEN A BAR IS NOT PERMITTED UNDER THE EXISTING LAND USE CATEGORY.

THAT IS AN INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL TYPE USED TO HAVE A STANDALONE BAR.

SONY ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE MUST BE ANY SALES OR CONSUMPTION MUST BE INCIDENTAL TO A PRIMARY USE.

IT CAN'T BE THE PRIMARY USE OR ADVERTISE AS A PRIMARY USE. >> I GUESS WITH THAT I WILL HIT SOME OTHER HIGHLIGHTS VERY BRIEFLY JUST IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS.

LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS TO MOVE FORWARD. JUST HIGHLIGHTS OF THE REVISION AND I THINK COMMISSIONER DEAN APPROPRIATELY POINTS OUT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S APPROVED AND IT'S GOING TO GO FORWARD IN SOME FORMAT WHERE WE STRONGLY BELIEVE WE ARE BRINGING YOU SOMETHING BETTER THAN WHAT'S THERE NOW BECAUSE OF THESE CHANGES.

WE HAVE ADDED THE FENCE TO THE SOUTH, WE DELETED THE POND TO THE NORTH.

WE HAVE DELETED GENERAL BUSINESS FROM ALLOWABLE USES WHICH ELIMINATES THE POSSIBILITY OF ANY OF THESE USES FROM COMING ON THEIR, GAS STATIONS AUTO REPAIR FACILITIES, ALCOHOL REHAB CENTERS WITH OR WITHOUT HOUSING, DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANTS, MOVIE THEATERS, SIMILAR USES, WE HAVE A LIST OF LIMITATIONS FOR PREMEDICAL USES. TO HELP CONTROL THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL THAT WOULD GO THERE. WE'VE ELIMINATED THE BUILDING HEIGHT, REDUCE THE MONUMENT SIGNAGE AND WE LIMITED ALL DRIVERS. SOME OF THOSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED. TRAFFIC WE HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF ANALYSIS TO REALIZE THAT ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL IF YOU REDUCED BY OVER 7600 SQUARE FEET YOU REDUCED THE TRAFFIC BURDEN. IF REDUCED BY OVER 7600 SQUARE FEET AND YOU REDUCE THE INTENSITY OF POTENTIAL LOSSES FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL DOWN TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL YOU ALSO REDUCE THE TRAFFIC BURDEN. JUST TO SHOW OUR SITE BEING LOCATED HERE I NOTE MR. FENWAY SPOKEN ONE OF THE ISSUES HE RAISES RELATED TO INSURANCE AND HE'S ALMOST EQUALLY CLOSE TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL RIGHT NOW ACROSS THE STREET AS IT WOULD BE TOO OUR SITE AND THIS IS BLUE FOR PUD BUT THIS IS THE NEAREST BANK IS WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL SECTION OF THE SHORES PROJECT SO COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO THIS AREA ISN'T SO NEW AND WE ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT GOING DOWN TO A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USE.

LOOKING AT AN AERIAL OF THE PROXIMITY.OU CAN SEE. ONE OTHER THING TO POINT OUT IS IF WE THINK IN TERMS OF TROPICAL SMOOTHIE BEING THE COMMERCIAL USES ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE ROAD BUT ACTUALLY TROPICAL RATTAN IS ONLY DISLOCATION HERE.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A MUCH LARGER CHUNK OF PROPERTY THAT'S COMMERCIAL GENERAL THIS IS THE QUACKENBUSH HOME THE PROPERTY APPRAISER HAS IT LISTED AS MULTIFAMILY UP UNTIL 10 UNIT SO THERE'S COMMERCIAL GENERAL ON THIS SAME SIDE OF THE STREET. HITTING THE HIGHLIGHTS WE THINK WE HAVE A BETTER PROJECT BY LESS THAN INTENSITY WE HAVE A BETTER PROJECT JUST FROM THE FACT WE ARE GOING TO KEEP OUR PEDESTRIANS AND OUR USERS AND AWAY FROM WE HAVE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING AND BETTER CIRCULATION JUST A SAMPLE OF LIGHTING ALONE, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE CURRENT REFERENCE TO THE CODE FOR LIGHTING BUT WE HAVE ALSO SAID WE WILL ONLY USE DIRECTIONAL LIGHTING AND REMOTE IN THAT LIGHT OFF OF OUR PROPERTY BOUNDARIES SPELLED OUT IN DETAILS TRY TO GET THIS PROJECT APPROVED FOR MORE CHALLENGING BUT WHERE WE ARE OUT TODAY IS COMING HERE, REDUCING THE OVERALL SIZE OF AN EXISTING PROJECT AND REDUCING THE INTENSITY OF THE PROJECT SO WITH THAT WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT THAT COULD OVERALL MAKE THE BEST SENSE FOR THE COUNTY AND MIKE TYNER IS HERE AS WELL.

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>> I JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE AND I AM MINDFUL AND UNDERSTAND CONCERNS WITH GROWTH. TO REITERATE WHAT COMMISSIONER DEAN SAID THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL IS ENTITLED FOR GROWTH AND FOR DEVELOPMENT SO THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE TODAY IS REALLY TO DETERMINE WHETHER THIS MODIFICATION WILL BE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WILL GO HERE AND THERE'S A COMMERCIAL USE THAT WILL GO INTO PLACE HERE. BASED ON WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED

TODAY I DO BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN A REDUCTION IN THE PROPOSAL. >> SPEAKER: WHEN YOU SAY THERE'S A REDUCTION IN INTENSITY, IF THERE IS AN EXPANSION OF LIMITED USES AND GOING FROM 6:00 A.M. TO 9:00 A.M., 24 HOUR USES, WE HAD TO NEGOTIATE A DEAL 2009 MEMORIALIZED HERE THERE'S BEEN A REDUCTION IN FOOTPRINT FROM 33,000 BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S A REDUCTION IN INTENSITY ESPECIALLY GO TO 24 HOURS. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE VERY CONSIDERATE OF AND I WOULD BE CONCERNED WITH. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY NEGOTIATE YEARS AGO AND THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN RELYING UPON AND I HAVE RESERVATIONS OF

PASSING BECAUSE OF THIS. >> SPEAKER: LOOKING AT THE 24 HOURS, IS THERE ANY ÃWHAT IS THE REASONING BEHIND IT AS FAR AS IT'S GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT.

I KNOW DELIVERIES BUT >> SPEAKER: LET'S TAKE THE TYPICAL RESTAURANT USE.

WE GOT THERE, WE EAT AND WE LEAVE AND IF WE CAME IN LATE WE MIGHT LEAVE AT 10:30.

STAFF STILL IS BECAUSE IT RESTAURANT DOWN AS A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP TO THE TENANT.

YOU CAN BET THAT RESTAURANT HAS TO BE SHUT DOWN AS IT WAS WHEN THEY REPLACED THE WALK-IN COOLER. IF YOU AND A RESTAURANT NEED TO REPLACE A STRUCTURE THAT'S 18 FEET WIDE AND 30 FEET LONG YOU HAVE TO DISASSEMBLE IT AND TAKE IT OUT OF THE RESTAURANT.

YOU DON'T JUST THAT'S A VERY OUT TRYING TO COMMUNICATE THIS TO USERS AT THE END OF THE DAY

OF THES BUSINESSES >> WE HAVE AGREED TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL BUFFERING AROUND OUR

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THERE'S A LOT OF LIMITATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT INTO PUD AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE MOU.

FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, THE MOU SAYS ON ITS FACE THAT IT'S NONBINDING AND NEVER WAS REDUCED TO A BINDING DOCUMENT AND NEVER DID BECOME FORMALIZED.

I CAN TELL YOU I WAS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS BACK THEN SO I'M FULLY AWARE OF IT.

IT NEVER DID COME TO A FORMAL DOCUMENT. IT NEVER DID REACH ITS

CONCLUSION. SO FOR WHAT THAT'S WORTH. >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY INTERJECT A MOMENT, I THINK PERHAPS TO CLARIFY, FIRST OF ALL MR. BURNETT IS CORRECT ABOUT THE MOU. FOR THE 24 HOUR ISSUE, MR. BURNETT BRINGS UP POINTS THAT STOP US TO COME IN EARLY AND MAYBE STAY LATE AND SOMETIMES YOU WILL HAVE AN ACCOUNT OR A LAWYER OR WHO KNOWS WHAT WORKING UNTIL 2:00 A.M.. I KNOW I'VE DONE THAT FROM TIME TO TIME. BUT THE ISSUE MAY BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THE BOARD COULD CONSIDER. AND MR. CHAIR I'M JUST THROWING

THAT OUT THERE. >> >> SPEAKER: I THINK IT'S READY ANSWER IN THE EXISTING PUD AS IT SITS HERE IF I'M READING IT CORRECTLY SO ASK FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION IN THE MDT TEXT THAT SAYS BUSINESSES PROVIDING FOR 24 HOUR ACTIVITIES WILL NOT BE ALLOWED IN CUSTOMER TRANSACTION RELATED BUSINESSES RETAIL AND SERVICE WILL BE LIMITED TO OPERATIONS BETWEEN 8:54 PM. OFFICE USES LAWYERS, CPAS, PLANNERS, ETC., WILL NOT BE SUBJECT TO SUCH LIMITATIONS BUT WILL BE SUBJECT TO ALL OTHER RELEVANT CODE REQUIREMENTS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT RELEVANT CODE REQUIREMENTS ARE, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR TEXT IT LOOKS LIKE IT ADDRESSES THAT, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> SPEAKER: DOUG, WE WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER FROM BOTH. THAT WAY WE ARE CLEAR ON IT.

STATEMENT THIS IS ON PAGE 26 IN YOUR PACKET. IT'S ACTUALLY PAGE 4 OF 16 OF OUR PUD TEXT WE HAVE A LIMITATION ON USES THAT I PUT UP THERE ON THE OVERHEAD EARLIER. THE LIMITATION OF USES, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE RESTAURANTS THAT WILL BE OPEN FROM 11:00 P.M. TO 6:00 A.M. SO AND ASKED COMMISSIONER JOHNS POINTED OUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE ARE TRYING TO WORK OUT ON THE FLY AND IT JUST WASN'T APPROPRIATE LAST HEARINGAND YOU AL ROMANTIC US BACK TO PZA TO BUTTON UP THIS TEST.

PUT WHAT YOU WANT IN WRITING, LET PZA REVIEW IT AND COME BACK.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. ONE OF THE THINGS WE PUT IN HERE WAS THAT RESTAURANTS CLOSE

AT 6:00 P.M. AND DON'T OPEN PAGAIN UNTIL 6:00 A.M. >> SPEAKER: EXCUSE ME.

11:00 P.M.. >> SPEAKER: THERE WAS A STANDARD TIMES FOR WEEKDAYS AND

WEEKENDS. >> SPEAKER: DOES FOR THE OUTDOOR SEATING, YES WORK.

AND SO IT'S FROM 7:00 A.M. TO 9:30 AND THEN 7:00 A.M. TO 10:30.

AND THAT REALLY DOES FACILITATE, AS AN EXAMPLE, YOUR COFFEE SHOP.

AND YOU KNOW, IT FACILITATES A RESTAURANT, AND FACILITATE YOUR COFFEE SHOP, THAT KIND OF USE.

>> SPEAKER: I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT BRING THAT BACK BECAUSE THE REASON I READ THS ONE 2013 IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY. AND WHERE WE GO IN THE FUTURE, WAS GOING TO READ THAT IN A MOMENT. BUT WHAT WE DO IS DOES NOT REDUCE INTENSITY THAT WAS THE QUOTE A LITTLE WHILE AGO. I WOULD SAY THAT EXPANDING INTENSITY.

BUT THAT'S JUST MY PERSPECTIVE ON IT. THAT'S WHY WHERE WE ARE TODAY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE AND WHERE WE ARE GOING IS ANOTHER NOTE.

SO EVEN WITH SOME LIMITATIONS IN REGARD TO 24-HOUR OPERATION, IT'S TAKEN THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS THIS THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE BEEN BUILT UPON. SO I WILL JUST LEAVE IT AT

THAT. THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> MR. DEAN: WELL, I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS THE VERY POINTS THAT PATRICK MCCORMACK RAISED AND COMMISSIONER SMITH WITH A SUGGESTION. THINK THIS IS A BETTER PROJECT THAN THE APPROVED PROJECT. I THINK THAT I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO GET A PROPER FROM THE APPLICANT IF THAT'S THE RIGHT APPROACH TO MY SUGGESTION IS THAT ANY ESTABLISH ÃANY FOOD AND DRINK ESTABLISHMENTS BE OPEN NO LATER THAN 10:00 P.M. AND 9:00 P.M. ON WEEKDAYS AND 10:00 P.M. ON WEEKENDS. I DON'T KNOW HOW EXACTLY TO INCORPORATE THE IN THE

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IT'S ALREADY APPROVED FOR CERTAIN USES, BUT WHAT HAPPENS AFTERWARDS?

SO I BELIEVE - >> SPEAKER: AND MR. CHAIR, ADDRESSING COMMISSIONER DEAN PUBLIC REQUEST, WHAT YOU ARE REALLY LOOKING AT IS AMENDING THE LIMITATION OF PERMITTED USES BUT JUST IN THE PLANT TEXT AND THERE ARE VARIOUS TIME FRAMES.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PUT THAT SLIDE UP SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE LIMITATION ON THE PERMITTED USES ARE. BUT IT'S THE TEXT THAT CURRENTLY -ÁSPEAKER1Á THAT WAS

FOR OUTDOOR. >> SPEAKER: IT APPLIES TO KNOW RESTAURANT SHOULD BE OPENED.

>> IF I CAN Ú. THAT WOULD BE THE DISCUSSION FOR THIS BOARD ON AMENDING SOME OF THE TIME

FRAMES. THAT'S BETTER. >> SPEAKER: I WANT TO BE CLEAR TO ADDRESS MR. BURNETT'S POINT EARLIER I WOULD HOPE IF WE END UP APPROVING THIS IN SOME MANNER THAT WE HAVE A PROVISION WHERE IF THERE IS AN ESTABLISHMENT THERE THAT HAS SOMETHING INSIDE OF IT BROKEN, WHETHER IT'S AN AIR HANDLER OR A STOVE OR WHATEVER THAT A MAINTENANCE MAN CAN GO IN AND FIX THAT. AS OPPOSED TO DELIVERIES

>> I WENT BACK AND TALKED TO MIKE TYNER A MOMENT AGO TO ASK ABOUT THIS RESTAURANT ISSUE AND ONE THING HE REMINDED ME OF WHEN COMMISSIONER JOHNS PULLED UP I THINK IT WAS YELP FROM THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IT MIGHT'S COMMENT AS FAR RESTAURANT USER TO GO THERE THEY NEED UNTIL 11:00 P.M. ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT, 10:00 P.M. ON THE OTHER NIGHTS, WHICH WOULD REALLY COINCIDE WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN YOUR TEXT WHEN YOU LOOK UP AT CMD WE WOULD SUGGEST UNDER A NEW RESTAURANT SHALL BE OPEN FOR NEW PATRONS AFTER 11:00 P.M. UNTIL 6:00 A.M. FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND ADD A SENTENCE THAT SAYS NEW RESTAURANT SHALL BE OPEN FOR NEW PATIENTS AFTER 10:00 P.M. UNTIL 6:00 A.M. SUNDAY, MONDAY, TUESDAY,

WEDNESDAY, AND THURSDAY NIGHTS. IF THAT WOULD BE AGREEABLE. >> SPEAKER: THAT SATISFIES MY

ISSUE. >> AND LIKE YOU SAID, FOR REFRIGERATION AND STUFF JUST BEING IN THE GROCERY BUSINESS MY WHOLE LIFE. NO RESTAURANT SHALL BE OPEN FOR NEW PATRONS AFTER 11:00 P.M. UNTIL 6:00 A.M. I THINK MR. BURNETT JUST MENTIONED 10:00

P.M. ON WEEKDAYS. >> SPEAKER: CAN YOU READ BACK WHAT THEY DISAGREE TO?

>> AND WHAT IF I COULD REMEMBER Ã >> I READ SOME NOTES AND I CAN EMAIL THESE TWO YOU. NO ÃAS HE STANDS NO RESTAURANT SHALL BE OPEN FOR NEW PATRONS AFTER 11:00 P.M. UNTIL 6:00 A.M. ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND THEN A NEW SENTENCE IT WOULD SAY NO RESTAURANT SHALL BE OPEN FOR NEW PATRONS AFTER 10:00 P.M. UNTIL 6:00 A.M. ON SUNDAY,

MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, AND THURSDAY NIGHTS. >> SPEAKER: MR. CHAIR, MY QUESTION IS SHOULD THAT BE RESTAURANTS, CAFC)S COFFEE SHOP AND BAKERIES

>> WE WOULD AGREE. >> SPEAKER: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

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IS THERE A MOTION? >> SPEAKER: I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE OF THOSE LIKE WE DID LAST TIME.

>> DID YOU ASK MR. CHAIRMAN IF THERE'S A MOTION? >> HE'S GOING TO PRINT UP REAL

QUICK AND THAT WAY WE CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT THE CHANGES ARE. >> ARE WE ALSO COUNTING SUNDAY

OR NO RESTAURANT OPEN ON SUNDAY? >> YES.

IT WOULD BE SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. THE LANGUAGE IS ON SEE YOU CAN

SEE THE LAST LINE OF C WHICH SAYS SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. >> SPEAKER: THIS ADDS A NEW SECTION TO THE COVER ORDINANCE THAT BASICALLY SAYS NOTWITHSTANDING ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY THIS ADDS A NEW LIMITATION ON THE USES AS DISCUSSED APPLIES TO RESTAURANTS CAFC)S COFFEE SHOPS BAKERIES 11 TO 6 AND THEN 10:00 P.M. TO 6:00 A.M. FOR OPENING TO PATRONS. SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE DELIVERIES AND SERVICING OR

ANYTHING LIKE THAT. >> WE AGREED TO THAT LANGUAGE. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO ENACT

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>> SPEAKER: SECOND. >> SPEAKER: HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.LEASE VOTE. IT PASSES BOARD TO 1. JOE, IF YOU DON'T MIND OR THE BOARD IS

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>> SPEAKER: I AM BACK AGAIN AT OUR LAST REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING I INTRODUCED THE VETERAN SUICIDE PREVENTION INITIATIVE AND THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

SINCE THAT TIME ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO FURTHER WORK WITH THE PARTICIPATING COUNTIES AS WELL AS THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE. THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT IS IN YOUR PACKET AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH IN THE SAME FORMAT AS WE DISCUSSED.

WE ALSO MADE SOME CHANGES THAT WERE PERTINENT TO YOUR SPECIFIC CONCERNS.

JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY, THE REQUEST IS TO ENTER INTO MORE MULTIJURISDICTIONAL INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT PROVIDES FOR THE CREATION OF A SEPARATE ENTITY WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM EACH COUNTY TO WORK ON THE ISSUE OF REDUCING SUICIDE RATES AMONG NORTHEAST FLORIDA VETS. IF WE DECIDE TO APPROVE THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WILL PROVIDE FOR THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA FIRE WATCH COUNSEL AND WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE POWERS AND DUTIES THAT WILL BE GRANTED TO THIS ENTITY, THESE ARE LAID OUT HERE FOR YOU.

SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THOSE DUTIES WOULD BE TOO MAKE AGREEMENTS TO IDENTIFY AND APPLY FOR GRANTS TO WORK WITH LOCAL AND FEDERAL AGENCIES, PRIVATE TO COMBAT VETERAN SUICIDES TO DEVELOP AND APPROVE AN ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET AND TO PROVIDE WRITTEN REPORTS.

LET'S HIT THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I WILL ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACCEPT GRANTS AND MONETARY CONTRIBUTIONS TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT DEALING WITH VETERANS PROGRAMS. THE COUNCIL SHALL NOT HAVE THE ABILITY AND THERE'S NO AUTHORITY BY ANY SINGLE MEMBER OF THE BOARD TO OBLIGATE THE COUNTY FINANCIALLY OR OTHERWISE. THEIR DUTIES AND OBLIGATIONS FOR EACH PARTICIPATING COUNTY AS WE DISCUSSED LAST WEEK ÃAT OUR LAST MEETING. DUBOIS COUNTY, THE AGENCY WILL BE HOUSED IN DUBOIS COUNTY. THEY WILL ACT AS THE ADMINISTRATOR AND SUPPORT STAFF AND PROVIDE ADMINISTRATION AND SUPPORT STAFF. THEY WILL SERVE AS THE FISCAL AGENT. THEY WILL PROVIDE ALL OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT FOR THE MEETINGS. THEY WILL ALSO FACILITATE THE MEETINGS AS WELL.

THE OTHER PARTICIPATING COUNTIES WILL BE REQUIRED AT THIS POINT IN THIS INTERLOCAL TO PROVIDE AN INITIAL FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION WHICH I WILL COME BACK TO LATER.

ANY COUNTY MAY TERMINATE OR RESCIND THIS PARTICIPATION BY GIVING NOTICE TO THE COUNTIES IN THE INITIAL TERM OF THE INTERLOCAL REMAINS AT EIGHT YEARS.

WITH THE OPTION TO RENEW FOR AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT YEAR TERM. SOME OF THE EXPRESS CONDITIONS OR SOME OF THE EXPRESSED CONCERNS THAT YOU REITERATED WERE -INVOLVED IN THE AGREEMENT AND ONGOING FUTURE FUNDING REQUESTS.F YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE AGREEMENT AS DRAFTED, WE PROVIDED LANGUAGE FOR THE AGREEMENT TO BE AMENDED, EACH COUNTY HAS TO GO THROUGH THE SAME FORMALITIES AS IT WENT THROUGH AND ADOPTING AGREEMENTS FROM OUR PURPOSES. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU IN A PUBLIC MEETING FOR YOUR DISCUSSION SUBJECT TO PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY WE WERE ADOPTING THIS AGREEMENT AND AS FAR AS THE ONGOING

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THE FIRE WATCH AS DESCRIBED AS BEING DESCRIBED AS A PILOT PROGRAM.

THIS IS KIND OF A FIRST TIME. THIS IS NOT BEEN DONE AND THE REQUEST AND THEY WORKING GROUP THAT WORKED ON FORMING THE AGENCY, THEIR GOAL WAS TO HAVE AN INITIAL CONTRIBUTION OF $100,000 TO GET STARTED TO DO STUDIES, TO GET INVOLVED. THERE'S NO REQUEST AT THIS POINT AND NO PLEDGE AT THIS POINT OF ANY ONGOING FUNDING FROM ANY OF THE COUNTIES AND THAT INCLUDES JACKSONVILLE, THE HOUSE COUNTY. ANY REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR FUTURE FUNDING FROM ANY OF THE COUNTIES WOULD HAVE TO COME TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION. IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT OF THE AGREEMENT WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE AGREEMENT WOULD BE AMENDED. SO IF THERE ARE ANY REQUESTS FOR FUTURE FUNDING IT WOULD HAVE TO COME TO YOU AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE. IF YOU CHOSE NOT TO APPROVE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING, IT DOES NOT AFFECT YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THE AGREEMENT AND THAT'S THE WAY THE AGREEMENT IS WRITTEN. CONTRIBUTIONS DO NOT REQUIRE AS A REQUIREMENT FOR PARTICIPATION IN THE COUNCIL IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, I HAVE GOT AN EMAIL FROM THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE EARLY THIS MORNING AND THERE'S ONLY ONE REQUEST TO CHANGE AND IT DEALS WITH THE FUND THEY IDENTIFY WHERE THE FUNDS WOULD BE HOUSED. THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THAT FUN BUT THAT'S NOT SUBSTANTIALLY RELATED TO THE REMAINDER OF THE AGREEMENT BUT THEY JUST NEED TO MAKE A CORRECTION ON THE TYPE OF FUND WHERE THE DONATIONS WILL BE DEPOSITED.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M AVAILABLE FOR YOU. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. >> SPEAKER: MR. CHAIR, BEFORE THE BOARD OPENS IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL SAY THERE'S BEEN ONE MORE BIT OF FEEDBACK ABOUT THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE COUNCIL. CURRENTLY THE LANGUAGE READS EACH MEMBER SHALL BE A CURRENT OR RETIRED MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED SERVICES OR ALTERNATIVELY A PERSON WITH AN EXPERIENCED BACKGROUND. THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST TO CLARIFY JUST THE FIRST PART CURRENT OR RETIRED NUMBER OF SERVICES TO INCLUDE FORMER MEMBERS. THERE ARE VERY STRONGLY INTERESTED AND CAPABLE PEOPLE THAT MAY HAVE SOME SET OF YEARS, FOR YEARS THAT ARE NOT RETIRED OR ACTIVE DUTY.

>> THANK YOU. I GUESS WE WILL OPEN IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WE OPEN UP AGENDA NUMBER FIVE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY BOARD, MY NAME IS BILL DUDLEY I MET 1072 OCALA DOCTOR IN ST. AUGUSTINE AND I'M HERE, SEVERAL OF MY COLLEAGUES, VETERAN COLLEAGUES TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SUPPORT OF THIS INITIATIVE, FIRE WATCH. SEVERAL YEARS AGO TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, TO BE EXACT, A JUDGE STOOD BEFORE THIS ESTEEMED BODY AND THEY ASKED FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO STAND UP A VETERANS TREATMENT COURT IN THIS COUNTY. I AM HERE THIS MORNING TO REPORT HOW SUCCESSFUL THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN FOR THIS COUNTY.

WE HAVE GRADUATED FROM OUR VETERAN'S TREATMENT COURT, 20 - DUE DATE, 20 VETERANS FROM THAT PROGRAM. THE RECIDIVISM FOR THAT PROGRAM TODAY IS ZERO PERCENT.

WE HAVE HAD NO REPEAT OFFENDERS. WE HAVE CURRENTLY ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM 27 VETERANS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROGRAM, AND ON OCTOBER 24 OF THIS MONTH WE WILL GRADUATE ONE MORE. THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN, AS I SAID, HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL FOR OUR VETERANS. BUT AS SUCCESSFUL AS THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN, WE STILL HAVE A SITUATION THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH HERE, AND THAT IS ONE OF SUICIDE.

WE STILL HAVE VETERANS, EVEN IN THIS COUNTY ON A NATIONWIDE BASIS AT THE RATE OF OCCURRENCE OF 20 PER DAY THAT ARE CHOOSING TO END THEIR LIVES, TO TAKE THEIR LIVES BECAUSE THEY JUST

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IN THIS COUNTY, IN THE PAST THIS YEAR, THIS PAST YEAR, WE HAVE HAD THREE VETERANS THAT HAVE CHOSEN TO TAKE THEIR LIVES. CHARLES, WHO WAS A U.S. ARMY VETERAN, DARREN WHO WAS A U.S. MARINE VETERAN AND CHRIS WHO WAS A U.S. ARMY VETERAN.

AND I HAVE GONE TO SOME OF THOSE MEMORIAL SERVICES FOR THOSE VETERANS, AND WHEN YOU MEET WITH THE WIDOW WHO HAS YOUNG CHILDREN THERE AND SEE THE HEARTACHE AND THE TRAUMA THAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH AS A RESULT OF HAVING TAKEN THEIR LIVES, WE JUST NEED THAT INITIATIVE TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THOSE FAMILIES AND THOSE VETERANS AND GIVE THEM THE SUPPORT AND THE HELP THAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY SERVE THIS COUNTRY IN OUR TIME OF NEED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I HAVE OTHER COLLEAGUES I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIS MORNING AS WELL.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS RAY QUINN I LIVE AT 1097 WINTER HAWK DOCTOR, ST. AUGUSTINE, FL.

32086. I AM GOING TO BE BRIEF. PROBABLY MORE BRIEF THAN I EVER HAVE BEEN HERE. WE ARE A NATION AT WAR. WE ARE A NATION AT WAR FOR THE PAST 17 YEARS. NOT A DCLARED WAR, BUT A REAL GUTWRENCHING WORK WITH LOSSES ON THE BATTLEFIELD AND NOW AT THE HOME FRONT. I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY HEARTFELT APPRECIATION TO EACH OF YOU WHO WILL SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

WI HAVE WE NEED IT. I HAVE FELT THE IMPACT OF THE LOSS OF NATIONAL GUARDSMEN ON THE RETURN OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT AND AS BILL JUST STATED, OUR COUNTRY HAS SUFFERED LOSSES.

TODAY THIS NATION WILL LOSE THREE MORE VETERANS BEFORE YOU ADJOURN FOR LUNCH.

IT'S THAT SERIOUS. I PRAY DAILY FOR THOSE WILLING TO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT.

I PRAY FOR THOSE IN THE FUTURE WILL STOP UP FOR THE FIGHT. I PRAY FOR MORE FOLKS LIKE YOU WILLING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SITE AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SAVE LIVES.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. JASON SNODGRASS 409 16TH AVENUE S., JACKSONVILLE BEACH AND I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT VETERANSUICIDE IS MONEY. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND ASSOCIATED PROGRAMS ARE DOING NOTHING TO DEMONSTRABLY REDUCE THE VETERAN SUICIDE RATE.

WHICH IS AMONG VETERANS 20 TO 22 PER DAY. THOSE VETERANS WITH COMBAT RELATED POSTTRAUMATIC STRESS ARE 66 PERCENT HIGHER LIKELIHOOD OF COMMITTING SUICIDE THAN THOSE WITH JUST MILITARY RELATED PTSD. LEGISLATIVE SOLUTIONS ARE NOT WORKING. THE FIRE WATCH. AS A LEADER FOR NEARLY A DECADE NATIONAL VETERAN SERVICE NONPROFITS I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE OUTCOMES OF LIFESAVING OUTCOMES OF TRUST AMONG TWO VETERANS AND THE FIRE WATCH IS DEFINITELY A LOCAL EFFORT TO BUILD THE TRUST AND RAPPORT AMONG THE COMMUNITY AND AMONG VETERANS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING.

MY NAMEIS CHRIS WHITEHURST 4048 A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF OUR VETERANS. FIRE WATCH USES PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND EXISTS DURING COUNCILS TO REALLY TURN AROUND THIS UGLY THING AND ADDRESSES COMPLEX VISUAL VETERAN SUICIDE. WE ARE ALL ALARMED BY 20 VETERAN SUICIDE TODAY.

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THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS JOHN WESLEY.

I RESIDE IN ST. AUGUSTINE. I AM A RETIRED U.S. NAVY VETERAN AND CURRENTLY SERVE THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA AND HERE THIS MORNING TO REQUEST YOUR POSITIVE ACTION REGARDING THE FIRE WATCH. SO FIVE COUNTY INITIATIVE THAT WOULD BE MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN THE INDIVIDUAL EFFORTS OF THE MANY DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT TRY TO TACKLE THIS PROBLEM. I DO SO BASED ON MY OWN PERSONAL PATH TOWARDS MY VOLUNTEERISM, MY VETERAN ADVOCACY AND VOLUNTEERISM. IT'S IGNITED BY THE SUICIDES OF FIVE VERY CLOSE VETERAN FRIENDS OF MINE, THREE OF WHOM SERVED WITH ME IN THE SAME SQUADRON IN VIETNAM. THEY ALL COMMITTED SUICIDE AFTER A SUCCESSFUL CIVILIAN CAREER FOLLOWING THEIR NAVAL CAREERS. MY REASONING FOR RECOMMENDING THIS, I BOILED DOWN TO A SIMPLE RISK CUBE. IT LISTS THE FIRE WATCH SUCCESS VERSUS FAILURE AGAINST YOUR ACTIONS. IF WE TAKE ÃIF WE DO NOTHING, WE DON'T SAVE VETS, BUT WE DO SAVE MONEY. IF WE TAKE ACTION IN FAND FIRE WATCH DOESN'T WORK WE WASTED A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY BUT IF IT WORKS WE HAVE SAVED VETS.

IT'S MONEY AGAINST SAVE, AND I SEE THAT ACTION IS REQUIRED BECAUSE WE HAVE NO OTHER WAY OUT, IN MY VIEW. AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU TAKE POSITIVE ACTION.

THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS CLICK MY NAME IS COLONEL RETIRED AND JOHNSON I AM A LICENSED CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER HERE IN OUR GREAT STATE OF FLORIDA. I AM ALSO A CLINICAL DIRECTOR FOR A VETERAN NONPROFIT, AND I ALSO SERVED IN OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM.

AS A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH OFFICER Ã >> CAN YOU PROVIDE US AN

ADDRESS? >> IS 100 LEEWARD CT., ST. AUGUSTINE, FL, 32084.

I THINK THE KEY HERE IS BRINGING TOGETHER ALL KEY PLAYERS AND STAKEHOLDERS IN THE VETERAN SPACE TO THE TABLE TO SUPPORT VETERANS OF ALL ERAS. WHEN YOU START TO LOOK INTO THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND THE STATISTICS, VETERANS OF ALL ERAS, AS JOHN JUST POINTED OUT, ARE ON OUR LIST OF CONCERNS. FOR MILITARY TRANSITION BOTH FROM ACTIVE DUTY AND THE RESERVE COMPONENT, RETIREMENT AND CHANGES IN PHYSICAL DECLINE THAT MAY LEAD TO GRIEF AND LOSS AND DEPRESSION AND OTHER MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS, THIS IS REALLY, I THINK, WHERE FIRE WATCH CAN COME IN TO SIGNIFICANCE. THERE'S NO ONE AGENCY THAT CAN SOLVE THESE CONCERNS AND PROBLEMS. BY WORKING TOGETHER TO REDUCE STIGMA AND PROMOTING HEALTH SEEKING BEHAVIORS, WE CAN HELP THE PROPOSED FIRE WATCH INITIATIVE TO ENHANCE THE MISSION OF REDUCING VETERAN SUICIDE WITH LOCAL SUPPORT AND ENGAGEMENT OF THE FIVE COUNTIES. THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. LOCAL SUPPORT AND ENGAGEMENT OF THE FIVE COUNTIES.

THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5? GOOD MORNING.

>> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, I AM BRENDA PATTY AT 1036 MEADOWVIEW LANE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU SPEAKING STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE FIREWORK COUNCIL.

AS YOU HAVE HEARD THESE STATISTICS AND NO VETERAN SUICIDE IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE.

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AS DANNY O'NEILL WROTE IN USA TODAY ON JANUARY 16, 2019, WE GO TO WAR WITH OUR BROTHERS, BUT WE ARE LEFT TO FIGHT DEMONS AT HOME BY OURSELVES. WITH YOUR FUNDING AND SUPPORT, FIRE WATCH WILL BREAK THAT ISOLATION AND BE A KEY PART OF THE SOLUTION.

I STRONGLY URGE FOR SUPPORT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE? SAY NOT, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5. >> SPEAKER: I AM 100 PERCENT FOR THIS. WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ON CONTRACTS AND EVERYTHING IS GOOD. I DO HAVE A LITTLE ANGST WITH CLAY COUNTY RIGHT NOW AND SOME OTHER REGIONAL ISSUES, THIS ONE I THINK WE WILL WORK OUT FINE WITH THEM.

BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT'S GOING TO BE MADE HERE AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL WORK. AND ANY SUCCESS WILL BE GREAT. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL MOVE ON AND BECOME A HUGE SUCCESS AND BECOME A MODEL FOR WHAT'S GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. AND I THINK NORTHEAST FLORIDA CAN DO THAT.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE NUMBER ONE AND A LOT OF THINGS AND WE CAN BE NUMBER ONE IN THIS ALSO.

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> MR. BLOCKER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO THANK YOU.

I WANT TO THANK MY FELLOW COMBAT VETERANS WHO HAVE COME TODAY AND SPOKEN IN SUPPORT OF US.HE GRANDFATHER WAS A COMBAT VETERAN OF WORLD WAR I. I DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW MY GRANDFATHER. HE WOULD'VE DIED LONG BEFORE I CAME ALONG.

BUT HE TOOK HIS OWN LIFE, AND MY FATHER AND UNCLE AND OLDER BROTHERS COMING FROM A BIG MILITARY FAMILY WERE DENIED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND TIME WITH HIM BECAUSE HE WAS NEVER ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE TRAUMA THAT HE EXPERIENCED. BUT I DID KNOW KRISTI JACKSON.

KRISTI JACKSON WAS A YOUNG SHOULDER THAT I COMMITTED WHEN I WAS LEADING TROOPS IN IRAQ.

AS A OFFICER. AND WHEN KRISTI JACKSON CAME HOME, THE TRAUMA THAT SHE EXPERIENCED OVERWHELMED HER, AND THE HELP THAT SHE NEEDED, SHE DID NOT GET.

I COULD SIT HERE AND GO OVER ALL OF THE OTHER NAMES BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL BEEN THERE AND THEN TO THOSE FUNERALS, INCLUDING OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS OF MINE, WHICH I'M NOT GOING TO ADDRESS, WHO AFTER EXPERIENCING COMBAT WERE NOT ABLE TO DEAL WITH THAT TRAUMA AND ADJUST BACK TO THEIR TIME HERE. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE SPENT TIME IN THE MILITARY TO HAVE FELT THAT TRAUMA. I BELIEVE THAT LOCAL SOLUTIONS TO NATIONAL PROBLEMS CAN BE SOLVED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL IN THE MILITARY WHAT I LEARNED IN THE ARMY AS A SOLDIER WAS THAT PROBLEMS ARE SOLVED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. WHEN I WAS A PROSECUTOR IN JACKSONVILLE, THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE IN VETERANS COURT. THE STATE ATTORNEY AT THAT TIME, ANGELA COREY, WAS NOT A FAN OF VETERANS COURT. SHE THOUGHT IT WAS A NOVEL IDEA. TODAY, WE HAVE VETERANS CT. IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY BECAUSE YOU HAVE VETERANS AND NONVETERANS AND LEADERS STEP UP AND SAY THIS IS NOT A NOVEL IDEA.

WE ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THIS. AND WE HAD A STATE ATTORNEY WHO ADVOCATED FOR IT IN A JUDICIARY THAT PUSHED FOR IT. WE CAN SOLVE PROBLEMS NATIONAL PROBLEMS ON A LOCAL LEVEL.

AND WHAT WE DO HERE WITH THIS INITIATIVE AS WE JOIN WITH FELLOW LEADERSHIP IN OTHER COPIES TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TODAY. I APPRECIATE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS LISTENING TO THIS. I HOPE WE WILL MOVE FORWARD

WITH IT. THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER SMITH?

>> MR. SMITH: I WANT TO THANK OUR VETERAN LEADERS FOR COMING IN TODAY AND JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMPLETE DEDICATION. I MEAN, THIS IS NOT JUST ONE ITEM AND COLONEL DUDLEY, YOU MENTIONED IT THIS MORNING TO GET BEEN A LEADER AND A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS COMMUNITY DOES A DEBT TO YOU NOT JUST OUR VETERANS BUT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE. BUT ESPECIALLY YOU. AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A

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I THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR CONCERNS, AND VOICING THOSE CONCERNS AND THEY CERTAINLY ADEQUATELY MOIST IN THIS DOCUMENT AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO DO, THAT WE HAVE A PROPER PREMISE TO BEGIN WITH AND WE DON'T GET OURSELVES INTO SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO GET OUT OF EASILY AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HANDLED AND I APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL. AND I THINK THIS AGREEMENT IS Ã ALLOWS FOR LIBERTY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE IN AND OUT OF BUT ALSO STABILITY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AND SECURE FEDERAL FUNDING AND OTHER FUNDING THAT I THINK IS VERY, VERY EXCITING FOR AN ENTITY TO OBTAIN.

I VOTE IN SUPPORT OF IT AND I'M VERY GLAD FOR IT AND THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY AGAIN.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> MR. DEAN: WELL, I CAN'T IMPROVE ON THE COMMENTS COMMISSIONER BLOCKER MADE. HE'S BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT.

I AM JUST GOING TO SAY THIS. I AM GOING TO BE CASTING MY AFFIRMATIVE VOTE ON THIS ITEM IN MEMORY OF MY UNCLE ALAN WHO WAS JUST AN IOWA FARM BOY WHO WAS KILLED IN ACTION IN MARCH OF 1945 SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ARGONNE FOREST. I NEVER GOT A CHANCE TO MEET

HIM. >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER JOHNS? >> SPEAKER: AS SOMEONE WHO IS PERSONALLY KNOWN BY PEOPLE WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE AND FOCUSED ON FINDING EFFECTIVE WAYS TO MINIMIZE IT FROM EVER HAPPENING TO ANOTHER SINGLE PERSON. I WANT TO KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE. WE ARE EFFECTIVELY CREATING A GOVERNMENT BODY AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM SOMEBODY TODAY WHAT TANGIBLE BENEFITS ARE VETERANS GOING TO RECEIVE IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. I DO WANT TO FOCUS ON HOW TO GET OUT OF THIS.

I WANT TO FOCUS ON HOW THIS WILL BE EFFECTIVE AND HOW WE WILL BE ABLE TO MEASURE THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS ONCE VETERANS START THIS PROGRAM AND NOT BE LEFT ABANDONED BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A CLEAR MISSION WITH TANGIBLE OBJECTIVE WAYS TO MEASURE EFFECTIVENESS. WE HAVE MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, SOME HAVE BEEN MENTIONED AND OTHERS HAVE NOT, THAT HAVE CLEAR OBJECTIVES, AND IT'S EASY TO MEASURE THEIR EFFECTIVENESS, AND THEY ARE EFFECTIVE. I BELIEVE AT A LOCAL LEVEL WE CAN BE MORE EFFECTIVE THAN AT A LOCAL LEVEL. AS A NEW GOVERNMENT BODY, I AM LEERY OF THE EFFECTIVENESS VERSUS SOME OF THE OTHER PORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED SOMEWHERE VETERANS, SOME FOR SUICIDE PREVENTION, SOME FOR BOTH WHAT WILL THIS BODY DO ÃWHAT IS AVAILABLE THAT OTHERS ARE NOT DOING AND HOW DO WE MEASURE IT AND HOLD

IT ACCOUNTABLE AS A MULTI-COUNTY ENTITY? >> SPEAKER: THE ORGANIZATION WHICH I ANTICIPATE WILL'S BEEN THE FIRST YEAR ORGANIZING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME WILL BE SPENT ORGANIZING BUT WHAT THEY WILL ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO AND IT'S LISTED HERE IN THE AGREEMENT AS THEY WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH OTHER LOCAL AGENCIES OTHER VETERAN AGENCIES ON THE STATE AND LOCAL ÃTHE LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL LEVEL THEY WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT STUDIES THEY ARE ALSO REQUIRED AS A CONDITION OF ESTABLISHING AN ORGANIZATION TO REPORT BACK TO EACH COUNTY AND IF THE BOARD DESIRES WE CAN INCREASE THE AS FAR AS PROGRESS FOR THIS FIRST YEAR AND I ANTICIPATE IN PROVIDING THOSE REPORTS THEY WILL REPORT BACK THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED AND POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS TO THOSE BUT THEY ARE

REQUIRED TO REPORT BACK TO EACH COUNTY ANNUALLY. >> BETWEEN CANINES FOR WARRIORS WOUNDED WARRIORS VETERANS ADMINISTRATION VETERANS COUNCIL NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARTY DO THAT. WHAT DOES THIS NEW GOVERNMENT BODY PROVIDE THESE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS DO NOT CURRENTLY PERFORM? STUDIES LOOK IN THE REARVIEW MIRROR I WANT TO LOOK FORWARD AND EXPECT A TANGIBLE BENEFIT OTHER THAN JUST ANALYZING PEOPLE WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE BUT TO LOOK SOMEONE IN THE EYEBALL BEFORE THEY DO SO AND FIND A METHOD OF PREVENTING THEM FROM DOING THAT.

WHAT DOES THIS ORGANIZATION IN WRITING PROVIDE THE OTHER EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS DO NOT

COMMIT >> IN THE AGREEMENT, THIS ORGANIZATION SPECIFICALLY ORGANIZED TO ADDRESS ONE SPECIFIC ISSUE AND THAT'S THE PREVENTION OF SUICIDE.

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>> CANINES FOR WARRIORS, WOUNDED WARRIORS AND OTHERS ALSO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES.

THEY ARE FOUNDED ON PROVIDING VARIOUS WAYS OF MINIMIZING THE POTENTIAL FOR SUICIDE.

SO AGAIN, I SUPPORT THIS, BUT I'M LOOKING FOR A WAY TO PROVE THAT IT'S DOING SOMETHING THAT NOBODY ELSE IS ALREADY DONE OR DOING IT BETTER. BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T ATTRACT PEOPLE TO THIS ORGANIZATION ONLY TO LET THEM DOWN.

OR TO REFER THEM TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION. THE LAST THING WE NEED IS ONE ORGANIZATION TO REFER PEOPLE TO ANOTHER TO ANOTHER, TO ANOTHER. IN GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRACY.

YOU WANT TO SEE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A TANGIBLE BENEFIT WITH SOME OF THE LOCAL

ORGANIZATIONS COMBINED. >> DOES LEGAL HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?

>> SPEAKER: THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT I DON'T DENY THERE MAY BE AN OVERLAP IN SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT OTHER AGENCIES ARE PROVIDING BUT AGAIN THIS ORGANIZATION IS GETTING A SERVICE SOLELY TO FOCUS ON THE ISSUE AND THAT MAY INCLUDE COLLABORATING WITH OTHER AGENCIES, WITH OTHER ENTITIES. THE AGENCY ITSELF IS NOT GOTTEN UP AND RUNNING AND IT HASN'T ESTABLISHED ITS ROADMAP AND THAT SOMETHING WE WILL PROBABLY SEE COMING FORWARD AND BEGAN THEY HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO COME AND REPORT TO YOU.

AFTER YOU HEAR THAT REPORT, THE SPORT CERTAINLY HAS ÃIF IT'S THE BOARD'S DESIRE TO REQUEST THE AGENCY OR WITHDRAW FROM PARTICIPATING IN THE AGREEMENT TO DO THAT, BUT AGAIN THE AGENCY HAS NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ORGANIZE AND BEGAN THEIR PURPOSE IS VERY LIMITED AND SPECIFIC. WILL IT OVERLOOK WHAT SERVICES THAT ARE EXISTING? PERHAPS, BUT THE GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CONSORTIUM WHICH IS A LARGER GROUP THAT CAN LEVY THEIR INFLUENCE AND COORDINATE BETTER WITH LOCAL STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES.

>> AND I FORGET THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME WHO CALLED ME, JEREMIAH. ONE THING I LOOKED AT IS IT GIVES US A CHANCE FOR A LOCAL GROUP THAT WE CAN LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN WORKING.

ONE THING WE HAVE WORKING GOOD FOR OUR YOUTH IS A RAPID RESPONSE AND I THINK THIS WILL BE A GREAT TIME ESPECIALLY NUMBER OF RETIRED VETERANS WE HAVE AND WHEN YOU CALL THAT NUMBER AND YOU TALK TO THE PERSON YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO THEY ARE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE THERE MIGHT BE SOMEONE MAYBE A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT COULD CHECK ON YOU MAKE SURE YOU KNOW YOU COULD GO TO THE VFW AND GO DOWN AND BE THERE I THINK THIS WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY OR THAT THIS GROUP ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO BE MORE MICROMANAGED THAN TO SAY THIS IS WHAT'S WORKING AND OTHER FACETS. LIKE YOU SAID, I DON'T WANT TO CREATE AT ANY TIME A BUREAUCRATIC THING. WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE.

AND IT'S A SHAMEFUL. IT'S SHAMEFUL TO ME THAT YOU HAVE TO WAIT MONTHS.

YOU CAN'T GO GET DOCTOR CARE LIKE YOU NEED IT. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT WHEN I SPOKE TO HIM. THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT REALLY SEEMS TO WORK AND WE SEE IT AT THE JUVENILE JUSTICE AND OTHER GROUPS THAT I THINK LOCALLY WE CAN GET THE VOLUNTEERS AS NEEDED. THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO GO OUT AND HELP THE VETERANS WHO DO COME HOME AND YOU ARE IN A GROUP AND SOME OF THE THINGS I'VE NOTICED JUST FROM OUR FRIENDS YOU, BUT HAVE BELIEVE IN YOUR HOME SITTING AT HOME AND YOU SHOULD BE MAYBE BACK AT THE ARSENAL WITH YOUR FRIENDS. YOU KNOW, YOU ARE GOING FROM BEING AROUND SOMEBODY ALL THE TIME TO BEING ALONE. AND IT'S A HARD ÃTHAT'S A HARD THING.

AND IT'S LIKE DEATH. WHEN YOU HAVE DEATH, THE FUNERAL ÃREAL PEOPLE AROUND YOU ALL THE TIME. IT'S A WEEK OR TWO AFTER WHEN NOBODY'S THERE AND THE SPOUSE

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HOPEFULLY WILL COME OUT OF SOME OF US. >> SPEAKER: THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. THE PERSONAL TOUCH THAT A LOCAL BODY CAN PROVIDE THAT LOCALLY WE HAVE FANTASTIC INDIVIDUALS THAT MAKE GOVERNMENT BODIES AND ORGANIZATIONS THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK TO US FOR HOW TO FORMAT THEIR ENTITIES, THEIR ASSOCIATIONS, THEIR COMMITTEES AND THEIR ADVISORY BOARDS AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS SPECIFICITY TO HOLD IT ACCOUNTABLE.

NOT BY US BUT BY THE COMMUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE THAT IT IS EFFECTIVE.

I'M NOT LOOKING FOR THE NEGATSIDE. I'M LOOKING FOR THE POSITIVE SIDE. BUT HOW TO DEMAND DISMANTLE IT BUT HOW TO REFER MORE PEOPLE TO

THE PROGRAM TO KEEP THEM FROM ENDING THEIR LIFE. >> SPEAKER: I CAN SEE IS MAYBE HAVING A QUARTERLY EMAIL WITH AN UPDATE AND THEN THAT WAY WE COULD ÃIF WE NEED TO GET WITH A VETERANS COUNCIL OR WE NEED TO SAY, HEY, WHAT HELP DO YOU NEED? BECAUSE WE HAVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE WILLING TO HELP THAT HAVE EXPERTISE IN CERTAIN AREAS WE COULD REACH OUT TO.

>> SPEAKER: I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT AND WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM K-9 FOR WARRIORS, HE HAS SPOKEN AND WE HAD THE VETERANS COUNCIL REPRESENTED HERE WE HAVE OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH WOUNDED WARRIORS. THE PROBLEM WAS BEING SOUGHT BY THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AND HE FELT CONFIDENT THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY BRINGING THIS BEFORE US. I WOULD TELL YOU THEY LOCAL RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE ALONE STANDING ALONE ARE NOT ADDRESSING THIS PROBLEM THAT'S WHY THEY ARE HERE ADVOCATING FOR THIS PROGRAM. SPECIFICALLY TO ADDRESS YOUR SPECIFIC PROGRAQUESTIONS THE PO AND DUTIES, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT YOUR COORDINATE BETTER AND SUICIDE PREVENTION EFFORTS, PRIORITIZE RESEARCH ACTIVITIES AND FUNDING AND STRENGTHEN COLLABORATION ACROSS PUBLIC-PRIVATE SECTORS. WORK SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH PARTNERS FROM FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AS WELL AS PRIVATE AND NONPROFIT ENTITIES TO PROVIDE VETERANS WITH SERVICES THEY NEED TO PREVENT SUICIDE. WORK TOGETHER WITH NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS BASED IN OTHER COMMUNITY-BASED GROUPS FIRST RESPONDERS, STAKEHOLDERS AND VETERANS COMMUNITY AT LARGE TO FOSTER CULTURES OF CARE FOR VETERANS IN MENTAL HEALTH AND PHYSICAL HEALTH.

CREATE A ROADMAP FOR LOCAL AND REGIONAL EFFORTS TO PREVENT SUICIDE AMONG VETERANS WITH COMMUNITY INTEGRATION THAT BRINGS TOGETHER BARREN ORGANIZATIONS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FOR STREAMLINING ACCESS TO SERVICES, SUPPORT INCLUDING EMPLOYMENT, HEALTH, HOUSING, BENEFITS, RECREATION, EDUCATION, AND SOCIAL CONNECTIONS.

ORGANIZE EFFORTS WITH FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND NONGOVERNMENT ENTITIES TO PREVENT VETERAN SUICIDE, CREATE, IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES FOR RESOURCES THAT MAY BE REQUIRED AND POTENTIAL POLICIES DIRECTED TO ACHIEVE Ã IT GOES ON TO DISCUSS ACIDITY YOU WANT IS HERE THIS GIVES -THESE ARE THE MARCHING ORDERS FOR THIS BODY TO GO OUT AND ACHIEVE SUCCESS. WE HAVE ANNUAL REPORTING REQUIREMENTS ARE HERE.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR PERFECTION YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET IT. SOMETHING I LEARNED IN THE ARMY HAS BEEN HELPFUL TO ME YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FUND 100 PERCENT SOLUTION ARE LOOKING FOR PERFECTION WE MIGHT AS WELL PACK UP AND GO HOME BUT THIS BODY, THIS BODY WILL HELP CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO INTO THAT. SO I WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU RESPECTFULLY. I THINK WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH HERE TO SEEK SUCCESS.

WE HAVE A REPORTING REQUIREMENT. WE ARE GOING TO ACHIEVE IT.

IF K-9 FOR WARRIORS AND MR. SNODGRASS THOUGHT WE WERE SOLVING THIS PROBLEM I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD BE HERE TODAY. F VETERANS COUNSIL FELT WE WERE ADEQUATELY SOLVING THIS PROBLEM THE VICTIM WOULD BE HERE TODAY. I ALSO MET BOB MY CIVILIAN CAPACITY AND ADDRESSING SUE VETERAN SUICIDE. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS IT. THE REPORTING REQUIREMENT IS HERE MR. CHAIRMAN WHEN YOUR

ALARM READY TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ISSUE. >> LEGAL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING

ELSE >> SPEAKER: TWO THINGS AND WANTED TO ADDRESS WHAT THE BOARD MENTIONED. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS FUNNY.

WE TALKED ABOUT INITIAL LANGUAGE IN CLAY COUNTY INITIAL ASK FOR THE ORGANIZATION WAS $100,000. AS OF TODAY WE HAVE ÃDUBOIS COUNTY IS CONTRIBUTING $70,000.

AT YOUR LAST MEETING AS A STIMULUS SOLIDIFY THAT TODAY. NASSAU COUNTY I DON'T THINK HAS FULLY CONSIDERED APPROVAL SO WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER YET BUT WE WILL GET AN UPDATE AND CLAY

COUNTY HAS NOT COMMITTED ANY FUNDS. >> SPEAKER: NASSAU APPROVED IT

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LAST NIGHT. >> SPEAKER: AND THE SECOND THING WAS RELATED TO UPDATING THE BOARD THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU MENTIONED COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

YOU WILL HAVE A MEMBER THAT YOU WILL POINT TO THE BOARD AS WELL AS LIAISONS ARE COMMISSIONER MAISON IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR QUARTERLY UPDATES - WE CAN HAVE THAT FROM THE MEMBER.

>> SPEAKER: OKAY. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THEY THINK WITH CLAY COUNTY, WE HAVE SOME OTHER REGIONAL GROUPS LIKE REGIONAL COUNCIL STAFF, CLAY COUNTY HAS PULLED OUT OF, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE GETTING A LOT OF THE BENEFITS OF IT, THEY HAVE THE FUNDING OR THEY DON'T PARTICIPATE. JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW. COMMISSIONER JOHNS?

>> SPEAKER: PURELY BASED ON THE HIGH QUALITY OF CHARACTER OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO SUPPORT THIS ORGANIZATION, I WOULD BE WILLING TO VOTE FOR 10 TIMES THE MONTH IT'S BEEN REQUESTED OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY BECAUSE I KNOW IN SOME FORM OR FASHION IT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL AND THAT WILL REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SUICIDES. JUST THE MEN AND WOMEN ALONE IN OUR COMMUNITY NOT JUST ST. JOHNS COUNTY BUT THE SURROUNDING AREA, I KNOW THEY WILL MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS EFFECTIVE. THAT'S WHY AT THE BEGINNING I SAID THAT I SUPPORT IT. I SIMPLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AS TO THE DIRECTION WE ARE ALL MARCHING IN THE GOALS AND EXPECTATIONS ARE CLEAR SO THAT WE CAN SAY JOB WELL DONE JUST IN 12 MONTHS BUT IN 12 YEARS AND 100 YEARS FROM NOW, THAT THIS IS EFFECTIVE BECAUSE IT IS A CRISIS. I'VE EXPERIENCED IT PERSONALLY AS OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE AS OTHER PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE COMMANDED YOU SUPPORT THIS. IT'S NOT JUST A FANFARE. IT'S NOT JUST THROW MONEY ON THE TABLE AND HOPE THAT IT'S BESPENT PROPERLY. I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT IT WILL BE AFFECTED. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GOING IN THE SAME ORDER WITH

THE SAME NUMBER THAT'S BEEN DEMONSTRATED. >> SPEAKER: AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2019 -349 AUTHORIZING THE CHURCH TO EXECUTE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME FORM OR FORMAT ATTACHED WITH DUBOIS, CLAY, BAKER AND NASSAU COUNTIES ESTABLISHED IN THE NORTHEAST FIRE WATCH COUNCIL IN EFFORTS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SUICIDES AMONG NORTHEAST ORDER VOLUNTARY VETERANS.

FURTHER AUTHORIZED A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED

$15,000 IS THE INITIAL CONTRIBUTION. >> SPEAKER: SECOND.

STAY WITH MR. CHAIR I WOULD REMIND THE MAKER OF THE MOTION THIS ALLOWS ITS APPROVAL SUBSTANTIAL AND THE FORMS OF SOME OF THOSE WORDSMITHING THINGS BUT REGINA AND I TALKED ABOUT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED AS I SAID LIKE ACTIVE, RETIRED, OR FORMER VET, THOSE TYPES OF

THINGS CAN BE PUT IN. >> SPEAKER: ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT?

>> SPEAKER: I AM GOOD WITH THAT. >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER SMITH? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO IMP APPROVED.

IT PASSES 5 TO 0. >> SPEAKER: ABHOR MORE ISSUE BEFORE WE MOVE ON FROM THIS MATTER. ST. JOHNS COUNTY PER THIS AGREEMENT IS THE CHAIR COUNTY FOR THE FIRE WATCH. AT THIS TIME, IF IT'S PERMISSIBLE AND LEGAL WE WILL DISCUSS THIS WITH LEGAL BEFORE, AT THIS TIME, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IF THE CHAIR WOULD ALLOW TO DO AN INTERIM APPOINTMENT OF GENERAL PETER FLEMING HE'S ACTIVE IN THE VETERAN COMMUNITY HERE AND I THINK JUST TO GET THIS PROCESS GOING FOR HIM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THE CAPTURE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR US TO APPOINT GENERAL FLEMING.> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER BLOCKER AND I SPOKE ABOUT THIS JUST BRIEFLY. THINK WITH THE IDEA IS IS IF THE BOARD WOULD CONSIDER INTERIM AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE THE BOARD WOULD DO THAT, SORT OF AS KIND OF A STARTING PLACE TO GET THIS GOING.

WHAT THE INTENT, I THINK, WOULD BE IS A NORMAL PROCESS THROUGH MELISSA LUNDQUIST THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OFFICE BUT TO PUT OUT APPLICATIONS FOR I THINK SORT OF A PERMANENT ONE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THAT PROCESS. BUT THIS WOULD GET THE TRAIN ON THE TRACK, ESSENTIALLY, IMMEDIATELY ON THIS THING, SO THAT WOULD BE THE BENEFIT OF THAT.

>> SPEAKER: WE ARE WITHIN OUR AUTHORITY TO MAKE THAT APPOINTMENT.

>> SPEAKER: THAT IS CORRECT. >> SPEAKER: WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> SPEAKER: IT ALSO PROVIDES THAT THE BOARD WOULD PROVIDE FOR A COUNTY COMMISSIONER LIAISON, THE BOARD COULD ALSO CONSIDER DOING THAT AT THE SAME TIME.

>> SPEAKER: I RECOMMEND COMMISSIONER BLOCKER IF HE'S WILLING TO SERVE.

>> MR. BLOCKER: I AM, THANK PYOU. >> SPEAKER: WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC

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COMMENT ON BOTH THE PAPPOINTMENTS. >> SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER BLOCKER AND ATTORNEY PATRICK MCCORMACK, DID I UNDERSTAND THAT GENERAL FLEMING IS THE ONE

WHO IS WILLING TO CHAIR THIS PROGRAM? >> SPEAKER: THAT'S CORRECT.

GENERAL MICHAEL FLEMING. >> SPEAKER: THAT'S CORRECT. >> SPEAKER: I NEED THAT CLARIFICATION. AND ARE WE LOOKING FOR A REPRESENTATIVE ALSO FROM ST.

JOHNS COUNTY THIS MORNING? >TO SERVE >> SPEAKER: MY UNDERSTANDING IS BASED ON THE AGREEMENT THAT'S WRITTEN THAT WE WOULD APPOINT ONE MEMBER FROM ST. JOHNS COUNTY WHO WOULD BE THE CHAIRPERSON FOR THIS. MY RECOMMENDATION TODAY IS SINCE WE ARE STILL FORMING THIS THAT WE APPOINT AN INTERIM TO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE GENERAL MICHAEL FLEMING, RETIRED, ON AND INTERIM BASIS TO GET THE COUNCIL SET UP.

AT THAT POINT WE WOULD GO FORWARD WITH THE NORMAL PROCEDURES WERE APPLICATIONS

FOR THE MEMBER FROM ST. JOHNS COUNTY. >> SPEAKER: OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE WITH US THIS MORNING, AND SHE'S SPOKEN, COLONEL ANNE JOHNSON AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH HER AND SHE'S WILLING TO BE THE REPRESENTATIVES.

SHE IS QUALIFIED AND HAS WORKED IN THIS FIELD FOR MANY MANY YEARS.

BOTH IN UNIFORM AND OUT OF UNIFORM. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO OFFER COLONEL ANNE JOHNSON 'S NAME AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

>> SPEAKER: AND COLONEL JOHNSON HAS BEEN A RECOGNIZED ADVOCATE IN ADDRESSING VETERAN SUICIDE NATIONALLY, AND WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE AND BLESSED TO HAVE HER.

WE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER RECENTLY AND DISCUSSED COLONEL JOHNSON I THINK WOULD BE AN OUTSTANDING CANDIDATE FOR THIS ROLE COULD JUST TO CLARIFY TODAY WOULD SIMPLY BE TOO SET UP AN INTERIM POSITION UNTIL WE CAN GET THE NORMAL PROCESS SET UP.

I FULLY ANTICIPATE COLONEL JOHNSON APPLYING AND PUTTING HER APPLICATION AND TO THE

NORMAL PROCESSES. >> I AGREE WITH THAT. AND IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO ENTER HER NAME AS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

SHE OBVIOUSLY WILL HAVE THE COMPLETE SUPPORT OF THE VETERANS COUNCIL BINDER AS

WELL. >> SPEAKER: AND FMA, TO COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, I GUESS I HAD BEEN PRESUMING THAT GENERAL FLEMING IS A RESIDENT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

>> SPEAKER: THAT'S CORRECT. FOR CLARIFICATION, GENERAL FLEMING HAD REACHED OUT TO BE SOMETIME PRIOR WHEN THIS ISSUE WAS FIRST DISCUSSED AND VOLUNTEERED.

THAT'S WHY PUTTING FORTH HIS NAME TODAY. WE HAD HAD THAT CONVERSATION BEFORE AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH YOU AND EARL JOHNSON.

>> SPEAKER: I AGREE WITH THAT. I KNOW GENERAL FLEMING VERY WELL.

I HAVE WORKED WITH HIM ON MANY OCCASIONS, AND IS EXTREMELY QUALIFIED.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, SIR.>> SPEAKER: ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT IN REGARD TO THESE APPOINTMENTS OF INTERIM REPRESENTATIVE FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THE COMMISSION LIAISON FOR ZAINAB, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> SPEAKER: LET ME REREAD YOUR MOTION. >> SPEAKER: IF I CAN JUST SAVE THIS MOTION WOULD BE PURELY FOR ON AN INTERIM BASIS AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. MCCORMICK, TO HAVE GENERAL FLEMING AS GENERAL MICHAEL FLEMING AS THE INITIAL CHAIRMAN TO GET THIS COMMITTEE SET UP, AND THERE WILL BE A NORMAL NOMINATING PROCESS.

WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER AND COLONEL ANNE JOHNSON AS WELL YOU I WOULD FULLY SUPPORT.

JUST SO THE BOARD AS AWARE GENERAL FLEMING SAID IN HIS RESUME SAYING HE WAS GOING TO VOLUNTEER. NOT KNOWING WHETHER THE BOARD WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS BUT I HAD FELT THAT BASED ON INVOLUNTARY, HE WOULD BE A GOOD AND DRUNK.

HE VOLUNTEERED ON AN INTERIM BASIS TO HELP WITH ORGANIZATION.

I ALSO SPOKE WITH COLONEL AND JOHNSON. I FULLY EXPECT HER PUTTING IN AN APPLICATION TO BEYOND A MORE PERMANENT BASIS. WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS. SO MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS TIME I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT GENERAL MICHAEL FLEMING, RETIRED, AS THE INTERIM CHAIRMAN OF ÃAND ST. JOHNS

COUNTY FOR THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA FIRE WATCH. >> SPEAKER: OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SPEAKER: I WILL SECOND THAT. >> SPEAKER: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR GENERAL FLEMING. PLEASE VOTE.

COMMISSIONER DEAN, DO YMOTION - WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPOINT AND ASK COMMISSIONER BLOCKER TO

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>> SPEAKER: I WILL SECOND IT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. COLONEL JOHNSON, THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING, SO YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO ATTEND ALL THE MEETINGS. WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR

YOUR INPUT. THANK YOU. >> ALSO IF I MAY.

THERE WILL BE A FORMAL PROCESS SET UP FOR THE BOARD -RESUMES ARE SUBMITTED TO THE BOARD AND THE BOARD HAS A NUMBER OF BOARDS AND AN APPOINTMENT PROCESS ONCE WE GOT THERE.

ONCE THE PROCESS IS FINALIZED AND GENERAL FLEMING HAS GONE THROUGH THE INITIAL SETTING OF THE BYLAWS THEM ANTICIPATE ACCEPTING RESUMES FOR THE PERMANENT POSITION.

AND WE CAN TALK FURTHER, COLONEL JOHNSON, MR. DUDLEY, AND HAVE A FURTHER

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CONVERSATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. >> SPEAKER: WE ARE GOING TO DO NUMBER SIX, APPOINTMENT CONTRACTORS REVIEW BOARD NEXT AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK FOR LUNCH AND RECONVENE AT 1:00. SO IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS WE WILL COME BACK AT 1:00. THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT WITH US. IT'S BEEN A PRETTY LONG MEETING.

>> SPEAKER: MS. LUNDQUIST? >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS PICK MELISSA LUNDQUIST ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO YOU ALL. THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU NOW ITEM NUMBER 6 IS TO CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE CONTRACTORS REVIEW BOARD.

CURRENTLY, THERE ARE THREE EXPIRED TERMS ON THIS BOARD. THOSE ARE FOR LICENSED PROFESSIONALS IN THE PLUMBING CONTRACTOR, GENERAL BUILDING OR RESIDENTIAL CONTRACTOR OR CLASS II CONTRACTOR CATEGORY. THAT COSTUME IS A SPECIALTY CONTRACTOR THAT PERFORMS STRUCTURAL TRADES SUCH AS MASONRY, CONCRETE, CARPENTRY AND ALUMINUM.

WE INITIALLY ADVERTISE THESE THREE VACANCIES WITH ÃFOR A FOUR-WEEK STAND THAT ENDED JULY 30 OF THIS YEAR. WE DID NOT RECEIVE APPLICATIONS FOR OUR PLUMBING CONTRACTOR TO FILL THAT SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT, SO WE ADVERTISED AGAIN WITH A DEADLINE OF SEPTEMBER 13, 2019.

DURING BOTH OF THOSE TWO ADVERTISEMENTS BANDS WE RECEIVED THREE APPLICATIONS THAT FIT THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE THREE PLUMBING, GENERAL BUILDING, RESIDENTIAL CONTRACTOR IN THE CLASS II. IN YOUR PACKET, YOU SHOULD HAVE TWO SEPARATE LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CONTRACTORS REVIEW BOARD AS THEY DID MAKE THE INITIAL RECOMMENDATION FOR THE TWO THAT WE RECEIVED THAT FIT THOSE REQUIREMENTS BEFORE YOU AND THEN THE THIRD REQUIREMENT THAT WE READVERTISED, AND YOU SHOULD HAVE ALL THREE APPLICATIONS THAT QUALIFY ANYMORE PACKET. I HAVE RECOMMENDED MOTIONS BELOW FOR THOSE THREE INDIVIDUALS. THIS IS THREE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS AND THREE SPECIFI INDIVIDUALS THAT FIT THIS REQUIREMENTS, AND THAT'S THE BASICS FOR THIS ITEM. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> SPEAKER: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? WE WILL NOT HAVE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> SPEAKER: OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6.SEEING THEM WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. CAN I GET A MOTION?

>> SPEAKER: MOTION TO APPOINT TYLER B LEE TO THE CONTRACTORS REVIEW BOARD BOARD FOR A FULL FOUR-YEAR SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE OCTOBER 15, 2023 FILLING THE BUILDING CONTRACTOR

REQUIREMENT. >> SPEAKER: I WILL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR MR. LEE. CAN WE VOTE? MOTION TO APPOINT TURNER TO THE CONTRACTORS REVIEW BOARD SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE OCTOBER 15, 2023 FILLING THE CLASS II

CONTRACTOR REQUIREMENT. >> SPEAKER: SECOND. >> SPEAKER: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER TURNER. PLEASE VOTE.

IT PASSES 5 TO 0. MOTION TO APPOINT KYLE JONES TO THE REVIEW BOARD FOR A FULL FOUR-YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE TIMBER 15, 2023 FILLING THE PLUMBING CONTRACTOR

REQUIREMENT. >> SPEAKER: SECOND. >> SPEAKER: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR MR. KYLE JONES. PLEASE

>>> I'D LIKE TO TELL THESE YOUNG MEN CAN CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR SERVING.

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WE >>> CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

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>> JOE SEARLY, GROWTH MANAGEMENT. THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.

THESE ARE AMENDMENTS TO ARTICLES 2, 5, 6, 9 AND 12 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THIS IS THE FIRST HEARING OF A THREE-PART SERIES OF PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR AMENDMENTS TO THOSE ARTICLES. SOME OF THESE ITEMS CAME BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON APRIL 16, 2019 AS A DISCUSSION ITEM WHERE STAFFERS RECEIVED DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE. SOME OTHER ITEMS HAVE BEEN PLACED ON AT THE REQUEST OF BOARD OR CLARIFICATIONS ON BEHALF OF STAFF. AMENDMENT TOPICS WILL COVER A MATRIX REVISION AND FRONT YARD SET BACKS AND PUDS AND A CLARIFICATION OF BUILDING RECONSTRUCTION LINES, REVISING ACCESS TO EASEMENT STANDARDS, ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION FOR STRUCTURES LOCATED IN A RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND DEFINES DEDICATE AND DONATE.

MOVING FORWARD, THE MATRIX ESSENTIALLY IS A SUPPLEMENTAL TOOL THAT WAS CREATED BY MYSELF ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN NAVIGATING THROUGH ARTICLE II, THE USES ARE IN PARAGRAPH FORMAT SUCH AS THIS RIGHT HERE. YOU HAVE TO THEN REFERENCE ANOTHER -- TWO OTHER TABLES TO FIGURE OUT IF THE USE IS ALLOWABLE IN THE ZONING DISTRICT.

WHAT STAFF HAS DONE IS CATEGORIZED THOSE USES IN A MATRIX BASED ON THE USE CATEGORY AND ZONING CATEGORY AT TOP WHERE YOU CAN JUST ESSENTIALLY LOOK AT THE USE AND LOOK AT THE ZONING DISTRICT TO SEE IF IT'S ALLOWABLE OR SPECIAL USE OR PROHIBITED.

FRONT YARD SET BACKS AND PUDND, WE WERE GOING TO ASSESS THE STANDARD GIVEN THE HIGH NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS AND WAIVERS TO ALLOW THE NON-GARAGE PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE TO BE REDUCED TO 15 FEET. CURRENTLY THE SET-BACK IS 20 FEET.

WE RECEIVED QUITE A FEW PHONE CALLS REGARDING CARS THAT WERE HANGING IN SIDEWALKS AND RIGHT-OF-WAYS, SO WHAT STAFF IS PROPOSING TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM SET-BACK TO THE NONGARAGE STRUCTURE TO 15 FEET AND INCREASING THE GARAGE AND DRIVEWAY SET-BACK TO 25 FEET.

THIS MAKES THESE STANDARD RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS WITH 25-FOOT FRONT SET-BACK AND JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF TRUCKS FOR AN F-150 IS 16 FEET TO 21 FEET.

ONE IS SOLD EVERY 33 SECONDS FOR A LITTLE FUN FACT. MOVING ON TO BUILDING RESTRICTION LINES, THEY'RE APPLIED IN TEXT KALT FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THEY COULD BE MORE OR LESS WHAN THE BUILDING LENGTH MANDATES AND IT'S NOT CLEAR WHICH TO USE IN THE CODE. THIS SIMPLY ADDS A NOTE AT THE BOTTOM OF TABLE 601 CLARIFYING THE BUILDING RESTRICTION LINE -- SET-BACKS WOULD BE TAKEN FROM THE BUILDING RESTRICTION LINE.

TOWN HOME PARKING REQUIREMENTS. CURRENTLY HOUSEHOUSES HAVE TO PRICE TWO PARKING SPACES FOR DWELLING UNIT AND ONE EXTRA SPACE. THE AMOUNT OF PARKING IS HIGH FOR TOWN HOMES AND SHOW CLOSELY MATCHED RECOMMENDATIONS PROVIDED BY THE MANUAL OF THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS AND COMPOSED OF ABOUT 15,000 ENGINEERS AND EDUCATORS RESEARCHERS AND SO FORTH. WE'RE LOOKING AT UPDATING THE PARKING PROVISIONS IN RELATION TO THE ITE PROPOSALS AND PROBABLY SECOND READING YOU'LL ALSO SEE WE'LL BE AMENDING -- I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO INCLUDE IT IN THE AGENDA. MULTI-FAMILY PARKING AS WELL AND REFERENCING THE IT PARKING MANUAL. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, THE CURRENT CODE DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR BEDROOMS. ONE AND TWO-BEDROOM TOWN HOMES REQUIRE 1.52 SPACES, AND IF THERE'S MORE THAN TWO BEDROOMS, THERE'S TWO PARKING SPACES AND RETAIN THE GUEST PARKING OF FOUR SPACES PER DWELLING UNIT. ACCESS EASEMENT STANDARDS.

THIS HAS COME BEFORE THIS BOARD, I THINK, TWO OTHER TIMES AS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

STAFF REVISED LANGUAGE AT THE REQUEST OF THE BOARD AND PROPOSED VERBIAGE.

I BELIEVE IT WAS AT THE WILL OF THE BOARD AT THAT TIME TO LEAVE THINGS HOW THEY WERE AND TO ADDRESS WHAT THEY DO WITH THEM ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. IT WAS, I GUESS, BROUGHT BACK TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER -- A FEW NONZONING VARIANCES THAT CAME THROUGH HERE, AND STAFF WAS ASKED TO ADDRESS THIS AGAIN. SO ON THE VERBIAGE WE USED

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IF EASEMENT ACCESS IS MORE THAN TWO DWELLING UNITS, APPLICANT HAS TO CONSTRUCT IT TO LOCAL ROADWAY STANDARDS INCLUDING A 60-FOOT DRIVEWAY OR SIDEWALKSES OR SEEK A NONZONING VARIANCE.

IT PRESENTED BARRIERS FOR PROPERTY OWNERS WITH LARGE RURAL LOTS SEEKING TO DIVIDE AND CONSTRUCT A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING. ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT INCURS ADDITIONAL COSTS BETWEEN TWO HOMEOWNERS, AND THAT'S PROBABLY EXPENSIVE.

STAND MITIGATION WITH NONZONING VAERNGS FOR MORE THAN TWO HOMES INCLUDE A FIRE TRUCK APPARATUS TURN-AROUNDS AT THE TERM NANCE OF THE EASEMENTS. STAFF'S ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS TO ALLOW NINE NONPLOTTED RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITH THE FOLLOWING SUPPLEMENTAL STANDARDS. THEY MUST PROVIDE ACCESS AND TURN-AROUNDS AND INCLUDE SHOULDERS AND IF MORE THAN FIVE HOMES -- IF THERE WERE MORE THAN FIVE HOMES OFF THE EASEMENT IT MUST BE IMPROVED FROM THE INTERSECTION WITH THE COUNTY RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR 100 FEET AND MEET LOCAL ROADWAY PAVING BUT NOT THE ROADWAY WITH THE 60 FEET OR THE SIDEWALK STANDARDS.

THAT WOULD BE 100 FOOT OF PAVED LANE, AND THAT WOULD MINIMIZE DEGRADATION TO COUNTY-OWNED

ROADWAYS. >> INTERPRETER: M -- MOVING ON TO MAILBOXES.

THEY EXPECTED STAFF TO CLARIFY VERBIAGE WITHIN THE CLEAR ZONE OF ANY RIGHT-OF-WAY.THEY EXPECT VERBIAGE WITHIN THE CLEAR ZONE OF ANY RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE WOULD PROHIBIT THEM WITHIN THE CLEAR ZONE OF ANY COUNTY-OWNED RIGHT-OF-WAY AND ALLOWED IT IN THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT OF 30 MILES PER HOUR OR LESS. THIS CAME BEFORE THE BOARD AS A DISCUSSION ITEM IN APRIL AND MAILED NOTICES TO SOME PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300 FOOT OF A SUFRJT PROPERTY AND THOUGHT THEY WEREN'T GETTING THEIR MAIL NOTICES IN TIME.

CURRENTLY THE NOTICE REQUIREMENT IS TEN DAYS. STAFF SUGGESTED 15 DAYS, AND THE BOARD CONCURRED AT THAT TIME. LAST BUT NOT LEAST STAFF WAS ASKED TO DEFINE DEDICATION AND DONATION. THESE TERMS ARE FREQUENTLY USED IN LAND USE APPLICATIONS AND IN SOME CASES THE WORD DONATE HAS BEEN USED EVEN THOUGH THE APPLICANT IS RECEIVING SOME SORT OF COMPENSATION SUCH AS IMPACT FEE CREDITS. STAFF HAS DEFINED BOTH TERMS AND ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT I, I BELIEVE. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IN THE THREE-PART PROCESS. THE MOTIONS ARE TO EITHER PROPOSE THEM AT THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS MEETING AT 9:00 AL AND THE MOTION TO HOLD THE FINAL HEARING AFTER THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS HEARING AT A SPECIAL TIME AT 5:01 P.M. IT'S THE BOARD'S DECISION TO HAVE IT AT 9:00 A.M.

THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. MYSELF AND OTHER STAFF ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF

NEEDED. >> OKAY. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS.

LEGAL? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THE MAILBOXES. I DON'T KNOW IF WE PROVIDED IN THE BOARD'S MATERIALS THE ACTUAL STANDARD IN DETAIL PROVIDED BY THE ENGINEERING DIVISION, BUT WHERE JOE INDICATED THAT RIGID MAILBOXES WOULD BE ALLOWED ON ALL ROADS UNDER 30 MILES PER HOUR, IT WOULD ACTUALLY ONLY BE FOR ROADS THAT HAVE A PARTICULAR LOW-PROFILE CURB AND THEN HAS A 4-FOOT SEPARATION FROM THE CURB TO THE MAILBOX AND UNDER THE STANDARD AND DETAIL, THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED ON SWALED ROADS OR STANDARD CURBED AND GUTTERED ROADWAYS. JUST THAT CLARIFICATION.

>> OKAY. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? >> ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.

SEEING NONE, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR. SORRY.

THERE WAS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HERE EARLIER TODAY WHO COULD NOT STAY AND HAD SOME NOTES AND ASKED ME IF I WOULD READ THEM IN DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE BOARD'S ALLOWANCE.

THIS IS FROM MR. JAMES MIDDLETON, WHO LIVES UP IN POND RA VEED DRA.

HIS NOTES, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RECOGNIZED THAT THERE WAS AMBIGUITY IN THE LAND

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THAT THEY SUPPORT A CLARIFICATION OF THE LDC, BUT NOT ONE THAT PREVENTS THESE RIGID-TYPE MAILBOXES, INCLUDING BRICK OR STONE MAILBOXES IN THE S SLOW-SPEED ROADWAYS. I THINK THAT'S -- YOU KNOW, ALSO THAT VANDALISM HAS BEEN AN ISSUE IN THE AREA, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MORE RIGID OR STURDY A MAILBOX STRUCTURE IS MORE RESISTANT TO THAT TYPE OF VANDALISM. SO I THINK THAT'S THE CRUX OF

THE COMMENTS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA

ITEM NUMBER 4. >> ANY BOARD QUESTIONS, CONCERNS AT THIS TIME?

>> HEARING ON THE PROPOSED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS AT THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED BOARD OF

COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HEARING AT 9:00 A.M. ON DECEMBER 17, 2019. >> SO SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

THAT PASSES 5-0. ARE WE GOOD? OKAY.

>> ALL RIGHT. I'LL RECESS THE REGULAR BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING AT

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. THE ITEM IN FRONT OF IS A REQUEST FOR RENEWAL OF THE CONTRACT THAT WAS SIGNED EARLIER THIS YEAR BETWEEN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION AND THE VEE LAN NOTICE BEACH MAIN STREET, WHICH SERVES AS A NONPROFIT COMMITTED TO THE VITAL OF THE VELANO BEACH MAIN STREET AREA.

EARLIER THIS YEAR THE BUDGET -- THE REQUEST WAS INCORPORATED AS PART OF THE BUDGET.

THIS IS NOT TO EXCEED $10,000 FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING SFT OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TIFTS THEY'RE ENGAGED IN. A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS IS NECESSARY.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> I KNOW WE NEED PUBLIC COMMENT AND OTHER COMMENTS, BUT I'LL SPEAK LATER. I ACCIDENTALLY HIT THAT.

>> OKAY. >> SEEING NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'LL OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. I'M VIVIAN BROWN AND PRESIDENT OF VELLANO MAIN STREET.

FOR THE LAST 2030 BEACH CARAMEL WAY, VELLANO BEACH. WE WANT TO THANK STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION FOR GETTING THIS ITEM. THIS IS A KIND OF RENEWAL OF OUR CONTRACT FROM LAST YEAR. WE'RE ASKING THIS BE RENEWED TODAY.

THIS IS A -- THIS ITEM HELPS US TO DO THE MAIN STREET DELIVERABLES TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE IN TALLAHASSEE. THESE ARE VERY SPECIFIC AND SPECIFIC SKILL SETS THAT'S PROVIDED BY OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. ALSO THE CRA DELIVERS OR ANNUAL REPORT WITH OUR SISTERS IN WEST AUGUSTINE AND FLAGLER ESTATES. WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT OUR REPORT IN THE MIX. WE NEED THE FUNDS. WHAT THIS DOES IS KEEPS THE VOLUNTEER LEADERSHIP AND THE COMMITTEES. WE STILL HAVE TO RAISE MONEY.

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WE FEEL WITH A $9 MILLION TAX BASE INCREASE THIS LAST YEAR THAT -- AND THEN WE GO TO NEXT YEAR HOPEFULLY AND WE CAN DOUBLE THAT. THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS. WE PROBABLY ARE 80% BUILT OUT IN THE TOWN CENTER.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO QUALITY OF LIFE. WE ALSO ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS PROVIDING SERVICES OUT THERE AND NOT TRYING TO DO THE BIG PROJECTS. AGAIN, WE WILL ASK YOU TO RENEW THIS.

IT WORKED WELL LAST YEAR WORKING WITH THE STAFF. I WANT TO MENTION ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR JOY ANDREWS FOR HELPS US AND FOR JOSEPH CONE WHO OVERSEES OUR PROJECT AS WELL AS COMMISSIONER DEAN AND ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. WE TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY, AND WE -- I'M ABOUT THE NEED AND THE PASSION, AND SALLY IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE NUMBERS. SO WE HAVE NEED AND NUMBERS, AND WE HOPE YOU WILL SUPPORT THIS RENEWAL OF THIS AGREEMENT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, VIVIAN. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> HELLO. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS ITEM. I'M SALLY O'HARA, 3101 FIRST STREET, VELLANO BEACH MAIN STREET. WE'VE AN ACCREDITED MAIN STREET COMMUNITY, AND EVERY YEAR WE GO THROUGH AN ANNUAL EVALUATION PROCESS, WHICH WE'RE IN THE THROES OF DOING AS WE SPEAK.

WE'RE ONE OF 46 OTHER COMMUNITIES WITH FIVE EMERGING COMMUNITIES TO BE DESIGNATE AS MAIN STREET COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THEIR FOCUS IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PROMOTIONS, ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY AND DESIGN COMPLIANCE.

I HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN ASSISTING OUR COUNTY COHORTS WITH THE ANNUAL REPORTING PROCESS AS WELL AS REPORTING TO OUR NATIONAL AND STATE MAIN STREET COMMUNITIES ON THE IMPACT THAT WE HAVE MADE IN THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE INTERFACING WITH OUR COUNTY STAFF, JESSE DUNN, BUDGET DIRECTOR INDICATED THAT TAXABLE VALUE GROWTH FROM FISCAL YEAR '19 WAS AT 9.19% AND FOR '20 IT'S EXPECTED TO THE 8.89%. WE EXPECT THAT TO HOP OUT WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT OF TWO HOTELS AS WELL AS THE TOWN HOMES.

ADDITIONALLY, I COUNTER-CHECKED THESE NUMBERS WITH THE PROPERTY PRAISERS REPORTS FOR GROWTH, AND HE AFFIRMS THAT ABOVE 7% GROWTH OVER THE PRIOR DWREER YEAR. VOLUNTEER-WISE WE HAVE CONTRIBUTED OVER HALF A MILLION PLUS IN VOLUNTEER HOURS SINCE WE STARTED THE PROGRAM, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. WE HAVE A POSITIVE INTERACTION WITH THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY STAFF, AND WE ARE ONGOING TO LOOK AT IMPROVEMENTS FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND TO PROMOTE OUR EVENTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. WE INVITE YOU TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR NOVEMBER SEA TURTLE SOIR REAND THE VELLANO 5K WHICH IS AN LUL, LIKE THE 24TH YEAR AS WELL AS THE MUSIC FEST IN MAY.

WE LOVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND WE WELCOME VOLUNTEERISM. WE HAVE A NEW MAIN STREET OFFICE, A CON ACCEPTABLING CENTER AT NOVEMBER 1ST. SO STOP IN THE TRAILER, AND

WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> WELL, BEFORE I MOVE THIS ITEM, I JUST WANT TO SAY AND THERE MAY BE OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, I JUST WANT TO SAY QUICKLY THAT VIVIAN BROWNING AND SALLY HAVE BEEN SO INSTRUMENTAL OVER THE YEARS. I REMEMBER BACK IN THE EARLY 2000S VIVIAN GOT HEAVILY INVOLVED IN PROMOTING MAIN STREET AND THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS NEEDED

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JUST A GREAT JOB. I CAN'T THINK OF IT AS A GREATER INVESTMENT.

IT'S A CONTINUING INVESTMENT TURNING STRAW INTO GOLD. IF YOU LOOK AT 10,000 A YEAR VERSUS THE TAX VALUE OF NEW HOTELS, NOT THAT THEY WOULDN'T COME ANYWAY POSSIBLY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT VIVIAN PLAYED A KEY ROLE AND SALLY. WITH THAT UNLESS THERE'S OTHER

COMMENTS, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M PREPARED TO MOVE THIS ITEM. >> GO AHEAD.

>> MOTION TO ADOPT CRA RESOLUTION 2019-2 APPROVING AN EXTENSION OF THE TERMS, PROVISIONS AND CONDITIONS OF THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND VELLANO BEACH MAIN STREET INC. NOT TO EXCEED $10,000 FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING SERVICES AND SUPPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE VELLANO BEACH COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE SAME FORM AS ATTACHED ON BEHALF OF THE

ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES 5-0. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

WE'RE NOW ADJOURN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, AND WE'LL RECONVENE TO

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THE REGULAR BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING. >> MR. CHAIR, AS I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE AGENDA BEING I BELIEVE THE LAST REGULAR AGENDA ITEM IS THE PUBLIC HEARING PERTAINING TO THE ROSCOE SXHUNT MARINA ITEM. APPARENTLY I BECAME AWARE IN THE LOS ANGELES LOS ANGELES TEN MINUTES THERE'S A LAWSUIT SERVED BETWEEN A NUMBER OF PARTIES PERTAINING TO THIS MATTER. I'VE HAD JUST A BRIEF OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF FLIP THROUGH IT. WE'RE GOING TO NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME TO SORT OF REVIEW WHAT IMPACT, IF ANY, THAT WOULD HAVE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. SO MY RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME IS IF THE BOARD WOULD CONSIDER GOING THROUGH COMMISSIONER REPORTS, YOU KNOW, THE REPORTS AND PERHAPS THAT WOULD GIVE OUR OFFICE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO BE ABLE TO FORM A RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHETHER TO HEAR THIS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8 TODAY OR TO RESCHEDULE IT. SO MY REQUEST IS TO NOT HEAR THAT AT THIS MOMENT BUT TO GO

INTO REPORTS. >> OKAY. >> SHOULD THE BOARD ALLOW THAT.

>> IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? >> I'M GOOD WITH IT. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

OKAY. WE'LL DO COMMISSIONER REPORTS. COMMISSIONER JOHNS.

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>> I WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE HEADING INTO THE FALL SEASON TAKE PART IN THE FEST TIVITIES D MANY THE WONDERFUL EXPERIENCES IN THE COUNTY. HAVING GROWN UP HERE AND SEEING THEM OCCUR YEAR AND YEAR, MY WIFE AND I OFTEN SAY WE SHOULD DO THAT ONE YEAR.

FIVE YEARS LATER WE SAY THAT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH TO BE INVOLVED IN.

I WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO TAKE PART IN THE FUN TIMES OF THE COOLING WEATHER.

IT'S ON THE WAY. I WANT TO THANK STAFF AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE ST. JOHNS COUNTY NUMBER ONE AND SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS WHILE WE'RE EMBROILED INTO THE DETAILS, IT'S EASY TO FORGET THE BIG PICTURE AND THE HEART THAT PEOPLE TAKE AND THE CARE PEOPLE TAKE TO MAKE OUR COUNTY NUMBER ONE AND SO ENJOYABLE AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE WE HAVE.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR LOCAL, STATE, FEDERAL STAFF MEMBERS AND REPRESENTATIVES AND EVERYBODY THAT WWORKED SO HARD BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE IT A WONDERFUL AND ATTRACTIVE PLACE TO COME AND LIVE, WORK, AND RELAX. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

>> OKAY. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I'D LIKE TO BRING UP SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE SERIOUS. I RED WITH SOME INTEREST A RECENT REPORT IN THE PAPER AND I'M DIRECTING THIS TOWARDS STAFF ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT THAT ESSENTIALLY CUT DOWN TREES WITHOUT A PERMIT. VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

I THINK THAT AS WE APPROVE DEVELOPMENT WE NEED TO HOLD PEOPLE TO A STANDARD, AND THERE

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I BROUGHT THIS UP TO, MR. WAN CHECK, AND TO YOU, M MR. MCCORMICK, IN A MEETING AND TOLD YOU MY CONCERN ABOUT THAT AND WANT TO BRING IT TO THE ENGS OF THE BOARD.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND THE LAW, AND WHEN IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. THE PENALTY IS ESSENTIALLY EQUIVALENT TO THE APPLICATION

FEE, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> TWO TIMES THAT.

I'LL SPEAK TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS HERE. I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.

WHEN PEOPLE DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO AS PART OF MY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS TODAY RAISE THIS TO THE BOARD AND ASK US TO DIRECT STAFF AND SEE IF WE CAN GET CONSENSUS ON DIRECTING STAFF TO LOOK AT THE PENALTIES TO SEE IF THERE'S

ADEQUATE TO DETER THIS TIME OF ACTIVITY. >> I WOULD CERTAINLY STRONGLY SUPPORT THAT AND REMIND EVERYONE PENALTIES FOR VIOLATING A WATER MANAGEMENT RULE CAN BE CIVIL PENALTIES AS HIGH AS $10,000 A DAY EACH DAY CONSTITUTES A SEPARATE OFFENSE.

JUST FYI. >> OKAY. WOULD IT BE -- WOULD WE WANT STAFF TO KIND OF RESEARCH WHAT PENALTIES ARE WITH OTHER AGENCIES AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU BOARD? I AGREE. IT'S GOTTEN -- IT'S NOT REALLY THAT MUCH OF A DETERRENT, ESPECIALLY IF THE PERSON KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

YEAH, WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ALSO. I MEAN, YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD IT

WITH ALL FIVE OF US. I DON'T KNOW. >> WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT, COMMISSIONER. WE CONCUR THAT IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO DEFINE STUFF TO DETER THE ACTIVITY THAT WE SAW. FORTUNATELY, WE DON'T SEE VERY OFTEN.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WE HAVE TAKEN APPROPRIATE STEPS TO STOP THE WORK AND GET THE FEES PAID.

WE NEED MORE OF A DETERRENT. RATHER THAN JUST JUMPING IN WITH A SPECIFIC NUMBER, LET US DO A LITTLE RESEARCH AND SEE IF WE CAN DETERMINE AND BRING SOMETHING BACK TO YOU.

>> OKAY. >> EVERYBODY GET WITH THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER?

SO THE SECOND WEEK IN NOVEMBER. >> COMMISSIONER, WE'LL BRING IT BACK ASAP.

I HATE TO PUT TIME LINES ON THIS STUFF, BECAUSE IT MAY MORE OLESS TIME, BUT WE KNOW THE URGENCY.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT? >> I THINK THE ADMINISTRATOR AND I WILL AGREE AS COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT COMMISSIONER BLOCKER HAS BREECHED THIS TO US.

WE WILL BRING THIS BACK. YOU COULD CERTAINLY DO A MOTION TO DIRECT US AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT WHAT I'M REPRESENTING TO YOU RIGHT NOW IS MR. WANCHICK AND I WILL BRING THIS BACK. I WILL TELL YOU COMMISSIONER BLOCKER BRINGS UP A VERY GOOD POINT. IN TERMS OF PENALTIES, THEY CAN'T BE JUST LIKE A PERMIT FEE.

THEY HAVE TO BE PENALTIES. IN MY VIEW THE PENALTY IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCE SHOULD GO NOT JUST TO THE PROPERTY OWNER BUT THE CONTRACTOR DOING THE ACTIVITY. ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE AND BRING BACK FOR RECOMMENDATION WHETHER IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THERE'S CERTAINLY SOME THINGS THAT ARE DONE THROUGH EITHER IGNORANCE OR JUST KIND OF -- IT'S OBVIOUS SOMEBODY PERHAPS JUST DID NOT KNOW THE RULE BUT FOR OTHER, MORE MAJOR ACTIVITY THERE COULD BE INDICATIONS OF A -- ESSENTIALLY A CRIMINAL INTENT TO BREAK THE LAW.

IN THOSE SITUATIONS, ALTHOUGH BY COUNTY ORDINANCE YOU CAN -- IT'S NOT A CRIMINAL, PER SE, THING.

IT'S CALLED IN THE MANNER OF A MISDEMEANOR THERE CAN ACTUALLY BE LARGER FINES AND POTENTIALLY JAIL TIME, YOU KNOW. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY COULD COORDINATE WITH THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO DO. I WOULD SEE THAT AS BEING RARE INSTANCES, BUT IF SOMEBODY KNOWINGLY GOES IN THERE AND DOES BASICALLY A DEVASTATION TYPE THING, THERE OUGHT TO BE A VERY FULL CONSEQUENCE TO THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY. MY SENSE IS IF THERE WERE, I THINK WORD WOULD GET AROUND TO CONTRACTORS AND OTHERS THAT THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS.

SO WE'LL TAKE THAT ON BOARD AND BRING THAT BACK, MR. CHAIR. >> OKAY.

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>> WE'LL OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT FOR INCREASING THE PENALTY FOR VIOLATING RULES.

SEEING NONE, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THIS TIME I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF OR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR COUNTY ATTORNEY TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD WITHIN 60 DAYS, IF THAT WOULD ALLOW ENOUGH TIME, TO A REVIEW OF OUR CURRENT PENALTIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON ENHANCED PENALTIES FOR ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE TO TREES. IN THIS CASE I BELIEVE IT COULD BE DESCRIBED AS CLEAR-CUTTING

AND BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD. >> I'LL SECOND THAT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES 5-0. >> MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD JUST SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION, YOU USED THE TERM CLEAR-CUTTING. IT'S CLEAR-CUTTING WITHOUT A PERMIT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE BROADLY WHEN I TALK ABOUT IT SO YOU ALL HAVE

THE FULL -- CAN DO THE FULL RESEARCH. >> I THINK WE WERE CARTE BLANCHE

DOING CLEAR CUTTING. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THEY NEEDED A PERMIT TO CUT DOWN A TREE.

>> THE NEED TO BE EVEN JUST -- THERE NEEDS TO BE RULES. THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED RULES, THE INVESTIGATION OF WHATEVER THOSE ARE. IF THERE'S A VITAL, VIOLATION, MAYBE WE NEED TO INCREASE THE PENALTY ACROSS THE BOARD. IT HAS A HISTORY BEHIND IT AS WELL. WE NEED TO OFFER YOU LIBERTY TO LOOK INTO OTHERS AS WELL.

ANYTHING ELSE? >> I APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> FIRST OF ALL, I ALWAYS LIKE TO RECOGNIZE AND WELCOME ANY FORMER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. I SEE MR. CONKY IS WITH US THIS AFTERNOON.

WELCOME, MARY. SECONDLY, IF YOU WANT TO REALLY, REALLY, REALLY GOOD TIME, I'M TELLING YOU THAT SEA TURTLE SOIREE SHE MENTIONED, IT'S OUT ON THE PIER.

IT'S A SUPER BAND. IT'S A SUPER LONG TABLE OF OR DID HE EVERS AND A LOT OF FUN.

I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE THAT WANT A FUN NIGHT, IT'S ON NOVEMBER 2ND. ALSO, JUST FYI TO COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, I DID THAT UNPERMITTED EXCAVATION IN DISTRICT 5 JUST NORTH OF THE ROD AND GUN CLUB.

I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THAT. THAT WAS A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS COMING IN FOR A MAJOR UPGRADE OF A NUMBER OF UNITS AND BACK DOWN TO WHAT WAS ALLOWABLE. THEN THEY DID THE UNAUTHORIZED EXCAVATION AND I SPOKE TO M MR. WANCHICK ABOUT THAT THE DAY AFTER IT HAPPENED.

HE WAS ALREADY IN THE GO MODE TO ADDRESS IT. NOW, I ALSO WANT TO ASK MAYBE -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DARRELL LOCKLEAR. I'VE SEEN REPORTS OR HEARD REPORTS THAT WE, THE COUNTY, MAY BE IN SOME TYPE OF VIOLATION WITH OUR EXCAVATION OF SAND AND PLACEMENT OF SAND ON SUMMER HAVEN. I WANT TO -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT IN ANY VIOLATION AND THAT WE ARE CORRECTLY PERMITTED TO DO THAT JOB.

COULD YOU COMMENT ON THAT? >> YES. AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, COMMISSIONER, WE'RE FULLY PERMITTED APPROPRIATELY FOR THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING DOWN THERE BASED ON YOUR REQUEST. WE'LL FOLLOW-UP AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOTHING AT ALL GOING INAPPROPRIATE, BUT I'VE GOT NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE OUTSIDE THE PARAMETERS OF

OUR PERMITS OR LEGAL PARAMETERS WHATSOEVER. >> THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. JUST LIKE TO OFFER SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT. CORN HARVEST IS WRAPPING UP IN HASTINGS.

CABBAGE, BROCCOLI AND OTHER CROPS ARE PLANTED AND SWEET POTATOES LOOK GOOD.

IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO GET TO SOUTHWESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY, NEW CITRUS LOOKS VERY, VERY, VERY PRETTY. HAY IS IN THE BARN AND MAY BE ONE MORE CUTTING IF WE GET A LITTLE HELP AND ASSISTANCE WITH THE WEATHER. COVERED CROPS ARE BEING KNOCKED DOWN AND LOOKING FOR POTATOES TO BE PLANTED IN LATE PART OF THE Y YEAR, EARLY PART OF NEXT YEAR. WINTER RYE IS ABOUT TO BE PLANTED AS WELL.

CROP MAZE IS OPEN IN ELK TON, AND PLEASE WATCH FOR TRACTORS AND EQUIPMENT ON THE ROADWAYS.

THESE ARE FAMILIES TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING. JUST BE PATIENT AND ENJOY OUR RURAL COMMUNITY. ALSO, HASTINGS THIS WEEK ON OCTOBER 19TH AT THE HASTINGS HARRIS CENTER THERE WILL BE A BREAST CANCER AWARENESS WALK. THAT IS OCTOBER 9TH.

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IT BEGINS AT THE HARRIS CENTER AND END UP AT AL WILGY FIELD. IT'S A GOOD WALK.

THEY OFFER A DRIVE BACK TO THE HARRIS CENTER AFTER THE EVENT. WILLIE MAYE WILLIS IS PUTTING IT ON. THANK YOU. THAT'S MY SECOND GRADE TEACHER.

CRACKER DAY IS SATURDAY, OCTOBER 19TH. IT'S AT ST. JOHNS COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS, THE 60TH ANNIVERSARY. THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT HORSE GAMES, ET CETERA, GOING ON. THERE'S ALSO A REVITALIZING OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY AG HALL OF FAME EVENT GOING ON AROUND NOONTIME ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 19TH.

WE SURE ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO GET OUT AND GO WEST OF I-95. ALSO, ONE OTHER EVENT THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY IN AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY IS THE SUNBELT AG EXPO IN MALT TREE, GEORGIA AND STARTED TODAY AT SPENCE AIRFIELD. IT'S THE LARGEST AGRICULTURE EXPOSITION TODAY, TOMORROW AND THURSDAY. IT'S A WONDERFUL EVENT AS WELL.

I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS THAT THAT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND GOOD FIELD TRIP FOR THE KIDS.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THAT COMPLETES MY REPORT. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. EVERYTHING I HAD HAS BEEN COVERED EXCEPT FOR ONE ITEM.

BACK ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 8TH I SPOKE TO A WEEB LOW GROUP AT THE METHODIST CHURCH.

IT WAS GREAT TO BE THERE AND WATCH ALL THE KIDS. THEY HAD FROM CUB SCOUTS ON UP.

THERE WAS YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN THERE, GIRLS. IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING.

I GOT TWO GRANDDAUGHTERS THAT THINK THE BOY SCOUTS IS MORE FUN THAN THE GIRL SCOUTS, SO WE'RE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW. THEY'D RATHER SHOOT BB GUNS AND BOWS AND CAMP OUT. SO I COULD SEE THAT THERE. YOU KNOW, THEY HAD QUESTIONS FOR ME, AND THE YOUNG MEN REALLY HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THE PARENTS DID NOT ASK QUESTIONS, DID NOT GET INVOLVED IN THE QUESTIONS.

WE HAD A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION. I DID ASK THEM IN THE END WHAT THEIR TWO MAIN CONCERNS WERE, AND IT WAS GROWTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT. THAT'S KIND OF A -- WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THAT TODAY EARLIER. YOU KNOW, THE KIDS REALLY WANT TO SEE WILDLIFE PROTECTED BECAUSE THEY LIKE TO BE OUTDOORS.

THAT'S IT. LIKE COMMISSIONER JOHN SAID AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS, IT'S A GREAT TIME OF YEAR TO GO OUT TO THE FESTIVALS AND THE GREEK FESTIVAL THIS WEEKEND WAS A HUGE SUCCESS FROM WHAT I COULD TELL. DOWNTOWN WAS PACKED.

PEOPLE WERE HERE VISITING OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT WAS GOOD TO SEE.

THAT'S IT FOR ME. SO COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS. >> NOTHING SIR.

>> COUNTY ATTORNEY? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. IN THE MATTER OF KINGS GRANT VERSUS ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THERE'S A LONGER TECHNICAL NAME, BUT THAT LAWSUIT IS PROCEEDING TOWARDS TRIAL IN THE LATER PART OF JANUARY. AS PART OF THE NORMAL PROCESS, THE PARTIES WOULD DO A MEDIATION. THE TENTATIVE DATE THAT WE'VE SET FOR MEDIATION IS DECEMBER 19TH, AND THAT WOULD BE GENERALLY AT THE STAFF LEVEL.

HOWEVER, IT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE BE ABLE TO BRIEF THE BOARD AND EXECUTIVE MEETING PERTAINING TO THE ISSUES IN THAT MATTER IN MORE ADVERTISE PARTICULAR RIT AND NO ACTION REQUIRED OF THE BOARD AT THIS TIME. SORT OF GIVING NOTICE THAT WE INTEND TO SCHEDULE A CLOSED EXECUTIVE MEETING ON NOVEMBER 5TH UNLESS ANOTHER BCC DAY WOULD

BE PREFERABLE TO THE BOARD. >> OKAY. MIGHT AS WELL GET IT DONE

NOVEMBER 5TH. >> OKAY. THE OPIOID LITIGATION, I'M JUST GOING TO READ A FEW NOTES AND WHERE I'M COMING TO IS THERE IS SORT OF A NEGOTIATING CLASS WITH PARTIES AND WHETHER TO STAY IN THAT OR OPT OUT. THAT'S WHERE THIS IS GOING TO, SO I'M GOING TO READ THROUGH AND GIVE YOU MY RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COUNTY REMAIN IN THE NEGOTIATING CLASS. SO AS THE COMMISSIONERS CALL ON THE BOARD TO AUTHORIZE MY OFFICE TO RETAIN OUTSIDE COUNT SELL AND FILE LITIGATION ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY AGAINST A NUMBER OF OPIOID MANUFACTURERS AND DISTRIBUTORS RELATED TO THE IMPACT ON THE COUNTY OF THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC. THE COUNTY FILED THE COMPLAINT IN FEDERAL COURT THIS PAST JUNE.

THE CASE HAS BEEN MADE PART OF THE LARGER GROUP OF OPIOID CASES BEING HANDLED BY THE FEDERAL

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THE NEGOTIATING CLASS IS AN OPT-OUT CLASS, MEANING THAT ALL THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE MEMBERS OF THE CLASS UNLESS THEY CHOOSE TO BE EXCLUDED. UNLESS THE BOARD DIRECTS MY OTHERWISE, IT'S MY INTENTION FOR THE COUNTY NOT TO OPT OUT OF AND TO INSTEAD REMAIN IN THE CLASS.

THE PRIMARY BENEFITS TO THE COUNTY OF STAYING IN THE CLASS ARE THE INCREASED BARGAINING POWER THAT COMES WITH BEING PART OF ONE LARGE NEGOTIATING CLASS AND THE RELATED COST SAVINGS.

OPTING OUT EXCLUDES THEM FROM ANY CLASS THE COUNTY MIGHT REACH.

IT WOULD PROCEED WITH THE CASE ON ITS OWN, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE STAFF TIME, FEES AND COSTS, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVING THE COUNTY TO HIRE IT'S OWN EXPERT WITNESSES ON A VARIETY OF TOPICS RELATED TO THE OPIOID LITIGATION. UNDER THE TERMS OF THE NEGOTIATING CLASS, THE COUNTY AND ALL MEMBERS WOULD BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON ANY SETTLEMENT OFFER, ONLY AN OFFER APPROVED BY 75 PERIODS OF TIME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CLASS WOULD BE ACCEPTED.

AT THIS TIME THE PLAN IS ANY SETTLEMENT WOULD THEN BE DISTRIBUTED ON A COUNTY-WIDE LEVEL, COUNTY AND MANSLAUGHTER -- MUNICIPALITY-WIDE LEVEL BASED ON THE FEDERAL DATA ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM OPIOID ADDICTION IN THE JURISDICTION, THE NUMBER OF OPIOID OVERDOSE DEATHS IN THE JURISDICTION, AND THE AMOUNT OF OPIOIDS DISTRIBUTED IN THE JURISDICTION. THEN IT WOULD BE UP TO IN OUR INSTANCE THE COUNTY, ST.

AUGUSTINE, AND ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH TO DIVIDE AMONG THOSE THREE ENTITIES THE FUNDING ALLOCATED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. IF THE COUNTY, THE CITY AND THE BEACH WERE UNABLE TO AGREE, THE MECHANISM ALSO PROVIDES A PROCESS FOR RESOLVING ANY DISAGREEMENT THROUGH A SPECIAL MASTER. AGAIN, UNLESS THE BOARD DIRECTS ME OTHERWISE, I WILL ADVISE OUTSIDE COUNT SELL THAT THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY WILL REMAIN IN THE NEGOTIATING CLASS.

SEPARATE FROM THE NEGOTIATING CLASS, YOU MAY HAVE READ IN THE PRESS RECENTLY A TENTATIVE SETTLEMENT HAS BEEN REACHED WITH PURDUE, ONE OF THE DEFENDANTS IN OUR CASE.

THE OWNERS OF PURDUE, THE SACK LER FAMILY, THE SPECIFIC TERMS ARE STILL PLACED IN TRUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE -- THE SPECIFIC TERMS ARE BEING WORKED OUT, BUT THE STRASHTH IS GENERALLILY AS PART OF THE ONGOING BANKRUPTCY, PURDUE'S U.S. BUSINESS IS PLACED IN TRUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC WITH CASH FLOWS FROM ITS ONGOING OPERATIONS BEING DRKTED TO THE STATES, COUNTIES AND CITIES THAT HAVE FILED SUIT. THE SACK LER FAMILY WILL GIVE UP OWNERSHIP OF PURDUE AND PAY A GUARANTEED 3 BILLION OVER SEVEN YEARS.

THEY WILL ALSO SELL THEIR INTERNATIONAL PHARMACEUTICAL HOLDINGS.

THE PROCEEDINGS OF WHICH WILL ALSO GO TO THE PUBLIC ENTITIES. WE DON'T YET KNOW THE FULL VALUE OF THIS TENTATIVE DEAL OR ST. JOHNS COUNTY'S SPECIFIC SHARE WOULD BE, BUT WE WILL UPDATE YOU AS THE NEGOTIATIONS CONTINUE AND WE LEARN MORE. AS YOU KNOW, SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY BRAD OFFICE WITH OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL. I'VE READ TO YOU THE SORT OF BACKGROUND TOO KIND OF SUM UP WHERE I GO WITH MY REMTHS, IS THAT THE COUNTY NOT OVPT OUT OF THE NEGOTIATING CLASS FOR THE REASONS THAT I'VE DESCRIBED. SO IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO TRY AND ANSWER

THOSE. MR. CHAIR. >> THANK YOU.

I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?

YEAH. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD ADHERE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO STAY

WITH THE NEGOTIATING CLASS. >> I SECOND THAT. >> IF THE BOARD WOULD ALLOW

PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THAT. >> WE OPEN UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON OPIOID LITIGATION.

SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> A MOTION AND SECOND TO STAY IN THE NEGOTIATING CLASS. PLEASE VOTE.

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PASSES 5-0. DO WE KNOW FOR -- >> MR. CHAIR, AS I HAD DESCRIBED

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I BELIEVE THAT THE APPELLANTS TO THE VARIANCE IN A NUTSHELL, PEOPLE THAT ARE OPPOSED TO HAVING A VARIANCE GRANTED FOR THE MARINA ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS MATTER RESCHEDULED. THEY ARE THE MAKERS OF THE MOTION TO SET ASIDE THE REHEARING. MR. HUNTER FAULKNER, THAT REPRESENTS THE ACTUAL PROPERTY OWNER OF THE MARINA, IS TRYING TO ASCERTAIN FROM HIS CLIENT IF THEY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT OR WHERE THEIR POSITION IS ON THAT. I WILL TELL YOU AS I SIT HERE, I'M WITH KIND OF THE SMOKE THAT THIS LAST EPISODE HAS CREATED, I'D BE RELUCTANT TO AT THIS POINT HAVE THE BOARD GO THROUGH WITH THE MATTER ON THE MERITS, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THAT IF THERE WERE GOING TO BE ANY FACT WITNESSES PERTAINING TO THE UNDERLYING MATTER THAT THEY BE SWORN IN GIVEN THAT THEY'VE -- A NUMBER OF OF THEM HAVE BEEN JUST BEEN SUED, AND IT MIGHT BASICALLY AFFECT, I THINK, POTENTIAL TESTIMONY TODAY IF FOR NOTHING ELSE THAT THEY MAY HAVE SOME A BIT OF A SHOCK FACTOR THAT IT'S OCCURRED SINCE THIS RECENTLY FILED LAWSUIT.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. IF THE BOARD WOULD PERMIT, I BELIEVE, JUST A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS, I CAN GO OUT AND HAVE MR. HUNTER GET AN ANSWER, OR IF NOT AN ANSWER, I'LL COME BACK WITH MY RECOMMENDATION. ONE MOMENT.

>> I THINK WE'LL GO AHEAD AND RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES >> WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE

MEETING BACK TO ORDER. LEGAL. >>MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, IT IS MY STRONG RECOMMENDATION TO YOU AND I'VE CONSULTED WITH THE ATTORNEYS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE EQUATION HERE, AND I CAN REPRESENT THAT THEY -- NEITHER SIDE OBJECTS TO WHAT I'M ABOUT TO REQUEST OF THE BOARD. IF THAT'S NOT SO, PLEASE SOMEBODY COME UP AND TELL ME OTHERWISE. WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION IS IS TO WITHDRAW THIS ITEM FROM THE AGENDA FOR TODAY WITH THE INTENT OF HAVING IT RESCHEDULED AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, AND I KNOW THAT THAT IS A SORT OF OPEN PHRASE. AND THAT WHEN IT IS PLACED BACK ON THE AGENDA AT THAT TIME THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR WHAT MAYBE IS THE SAME AGENDA ITEM MATTERS AS TODAY AND OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THAT TIME. SO WHAT THE EFFECT OF MY RECOMMENDATION IS IS JUST TO HAVE IT WITHDRAWN FROM THE AGENDA TODAY.

THE APPLICATION IS NOT WITHDRAWN AND THE MOTION TO SET ASIDE IS NOT WITHDRAWN AND ET CETERA.

IT COMES OFF THE AGENDA TODAY WITH THE INTENT TO HAVE IT PLACED BACK ON THE AGENDA AT A FUTURE TIME. THERE NEED NOT BE A MOTION FOR THAT.

AS I SAID, WHEN IT COMES BACK, THAT WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FULL MATTER TO BE HEARD

WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. THAT'S IT. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? GO AHEAD. EVERYBODY GOOD? OKAY.

SO YOU'D RECOMMEND NO PUBLIC COMMENT? >> NO.

JUST MEETING ADJOURNED. >> OKAY. I APOLOGIZE TO EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT TODAY. WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING, ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG COUPLE SITTING HERE ALL DAY. I HOPE YOU ALL ENJOYED T

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.