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ZONING AND ADJUSTMENT BOARD MEETING OF MONDAY, OCTOBER 7TH AT 3:00 P.M. CAN WE HAVE A READING OF THE PUBLIC NOTICE
STATEMENT PLEASE >> THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN CONCURRENCE WITH REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW. THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TO THE BOARD, AGENCY, COMMITTEES, AREA OF JURISDICTION, AND THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER COMMENT AT THE KEYS IG NATED -- DESIGNATED TIME DURING THE HEARING. ANY ANYBODY OF THE PUBLIC DESIRING TO SPEAK MUST INDICATE SO BY COMPLETING A SPEAKER CARD WHICH IS AVAILABLE IN THE FOYER. ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS MAY BE HEARD ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN. SPEAKER CARDS MAY BE TURNED INTO THE STAFF. THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT THE TIME DURING THE MEETING ON EACH ITEM AND FOR A LENGTH OF TIME AS DESIGNATED BY THE CHAIRMAN, WHICH SHALL BE THREE MINUTES. SPEAKERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, WHO THEY REPRESENT, AND THEN STATE THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIMONY. IF THEY DO NOT, THE FACT THAT THE TESTIMONY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD, AGENCY, COMMITTEE IN DETERMINING THE WEIGHT OR TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY. IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE WITH RESPECT TO ANY MATTER CONSIDERED IN THE HEARING, SUCH PEOPLE WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDING IS MADE WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY, EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED. ANY PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING, SUCH AS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS, PHOTOGRAPHS, OR WRITTEN STATEMENTS WILL BE RETAINED BY STAFF AS PART OF THE RECORD. THE RECORD WILL THEN BE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER BOARD, AGENCY, AND COMMITTEE OR THE COUNTY IN ANY REVIEW OF THE APPEAL RELATING TO THAT ITEM.
BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH ITEM THEY SHOULD STATE WHETHER THEY HAVE ANY HAD ANY INDICATION WITH THE APPLICANT OR ANY OTHER PERSON REGARDING THE SUBSTANCE ITEM OUTSIDE THE FORMAL HEARING OF THE BOARD, AGENCY, COMMITTEE.
IF SUCH COMMUNICATIONS HAS OCCURRED, THE BOARD, AGENCY, COMMITTEE MEMBERS SHOULD THEN IDENTIFY THE PERSON INVOLVED AND THE MATERIAL CONTENT OF THE COMMUNICATIONS. CIVILITY CLAUSE.
WE WILL RESPECTFULLY OF ONE ANOTHER EVEN WHILE WE DISAGREE AND WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THE ISSUES AND WE WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS. CHAIRMAN KOPPENHAFER: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF THERE IS ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY ITEMS OTHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA? SEEING NONE, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO THE MEETING MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 9, 2019.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CORRECTION OR ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? SO THEY
APPROVED 3-1. THE NEXT-- >> MADAM CHAIR. THERE'S A PROVISION UNIQUE TO VEIT. I BELIEVE IT REQUIRES AT LEAST FOUR TO PASS ANY MOTION. CHAIRMAN: EVEN THE MINUTES?
>> JUST IN KEEPING WITH THE PROVISION. THE MINUTES ARE USUALLY MISS TEAR AL BUT IT'S ODD THAT WE HAVE ONE PERSON KIND
OF REJECTING THE MINUTES. >> IF I WASN'T HERE, CAN I VOTE
ON IT >> YES YOU ARE JUST APPROVING BY THE BOARD MOTION THAT THE MINUTES THEMSELVES
>> MADAM CHAIR I SUGGEST YOU DO A RECOUNT OF THE VOTES.
CHAIRMAN: ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE SEPTEMBER 9, 2019, MINUTES RAISE YOUR HAND. SO, IT IS APPROVED. THE NEXT ITEM ON
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THE AJBDA IS A STAFF PRESENTATION. BEVERLY FRAZIER OF PUD 2017-07 POND AVEIT RAH LAKES BOUTIQUE.>> THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1. PUD 2017-07 FOR THE PONTE VEDRA
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LAKES BOUTIQUE. THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE .37 ACRES FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R1C TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT OF 3,000 SQUARE FEET OF LIMITED COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD CUSTOMER COMMERCIAL USES. THIS APPLICATION WAS HEARD BY THIS BOARD AND RECEIVED A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HEARD THIS ITEM ON JUNE 18, 2019, AND REMANDED THE REQUEST TO BE REHEARD BY THIS BOARD WITH PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE MASTER DEPARTMENT PLAN THAT I'LL REVEAL. SO THIS IS A LOCATION MAP. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WEST OF A1A AND SOUTH OF MARLIN AVENUE. AND IS DESIGNATED RESIDENTIAL C COASTAL ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. AND IT IS ZONED R1C CURRENTLY. IT DOES HAVE PLANNED SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH AS WELL AS A PUD FURTHER NORTH AND FURTHER SOUTH. AND HAS THE SAME R1C RESIDENTIAL ZONING TO THE WEST. A LOOK AT THE AERIAL MAP SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS UNIMPROVED BUT DOES SHOW THE TWO PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH DEVELOPED WITH OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES AND THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST. SO THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE TO ALLOW PROFESSIONAL OFFICE RETAIL AND BUSINESS SERVICES SIMILAR TO THOSE LISTED WITHIN THE PONTE VEDRA COMMERCIAL DISTRICT R3. ZONING PROHIBITS AUTO SELLS, TATTOO STUDIOS. PERMITTED USES ARE LISTED IN THE MDP WHICH PROHIBITS RESTAURANTS, DISCOUNT RETAIL STORES, SERVICE STATIONS, VETERINARIAN HOSPITALS AND LANDSCAPE SERVICES TO ADDRESS THE INCOMPATIBILITY OF CERTAIN COMMERCIAL USES WITH ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THE PROPOSED SINGLE STORY BUILDING, LANDSCAPING AND SIGNAGE, WILL REQUIRE APPROVAL BY THE PONTE VEDRA ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. THE PUD WILL PROVIDE AN 8 FOOT TALL MASONRY WALL AT THE REAR PROPERTY BOUNDARY AS REQUIRED FOR SINGLE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WITHIN 60 FEET OF RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY. IN ADDITION THE WESTERN BOUNDARY WILL MEET AN ENHAYNESED STANDARD TO CONFIRM 100% OF CAPACITY. WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL CANOPY TREES WITH THE WALL. THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES FUTURE CROSS-PARCEL CONNECTIONS FOR INNER-CONNECTIVITY TO ADJACENT COMMERCIAL SITES IF ALLOWABLE. A LOOK AT SOME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. IT IS MAXIMUM 3,000 SQUARE FEET AND WILL PROVIDE THE MINIMUM OPEN SPACE TO MEET THE ISR. THEY'RE LIMITED TO ONE STORY AT 25 FEET FOR HEIGHT. PARKING DIMENSIONS ARE REQUESTED TO BE PER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. ALTHOUGH THE CALCULATION FOR THE NUMBER OF SPACES WILL BE BASED ON THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING DISTRICT.SETBACKS ALSO REQUESTING WAIVERS AS WELL AS BUFFERS. AND WE'LL LOOK AT THOSE IN JUST A MINUTE. THE PHASING IS PROPOSED WITH ONE FIVE-YEAR PHASE WITH COMMENCEMENT WITHIN FIVE YEARS APPROVAL OF THE PUD. SO THIS IS A LOOK AT THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP. AS YOU CAN SEE THE SINGLE STRUCTURE, 3,000 SQUARE FEET, AND THE PROPOSED SPARKING TOWARDS A1A. YOU DID SEE THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE BUFFERS OF TEN FEET FOR THE WEST, NORTH AND SOUTH PROPERTY LINES, AS WELL AS A SCENIC BUFFER TO THE EAST.
SO, THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF WAIVERS INCLUDED WITH THIS PUD REQUEST. THE FIRST ONE IS RELIEF FROM THE SIDE AND REAR MINIMUM YARDS. AND IT IS A REQUEST TO REDUCE THE REAR SETBACK TO TEN FEET IN LIEU OF THE 30 FEET AS REQUIRED FOR A ONE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING WITH ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
AND ALSO TO REDUCE THE SIDE SETBACK OF TEN FEET IN LIEU OF 20 TREAT FOR THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY. A REQUEST TO REDUCE THE REAR SETBACK TO 10 FEET IN LIEU OF 20 FEET FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIRES THAT FOR A PUD FOR COMMERCIAL. ALSO REQUESTED IS INCOMPATIBILITY BUFFERS TO REDUCE THE BUFFER DISSTANCE TO TEN FEET. A SCENIC HIGHWAY BUFFER IS REQUIRED AND IT'S REQUESTED TO BE REDUCED FROM THE 30 TO 20 FEET. I DID WANT TO NOTE EACH OF THE BUFFERS WITHIN THE PLAN, THEY ARE PREPOSING TO PROVIDE THE REQUIRED SCREENING WITHIN THOSE REDUCED BUFFER WIDTHS. THERE'S A REQUEST FOR PARKING SPACES TO REDUCE THE DAY MENTIONS TO MEET THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING DISTRICT BUT THEY WILL MEET THE NUMBER OF SPACES REQUIRED PER USE. AS WELL AS TO RELIMB NATE THE REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE A LOADING BERTH FOR USES. THESE ARE REQUIRED FOR SOME TYPES OF BUSINESSES AND THIS IS PROPOSING BASED ON THE SIZE NOT TO HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT. AS WELL AS THE
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SEPARATION OF BUILDINGS FROM PARKING TO REDUCE THAT SEPARATION FROM 8 FEET TO FIVE FEET FOR THE SIDEWALK WITH A NO REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT. -- VEGETATION REQUIREMENT. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN AN AREA WITH COMMERCIAL ZONING AND DOES HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO A1A NORTH. THE PROPOSED USES ARE GENERAL I LE VIEWED AS CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUSINESSES. ALTHOUGH THE LIMITED BUFFER TO THE WEST MAY NOT OFFER SUFFICIENT MITIGATION FOR THE POSSIBLE IMPACTS OF NOISE, LIGHTING AND LEVEL ACTIVITY. THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN INCLUDES A NUMBER OF WAIVERS FOR THE POPPED AVEIT RAH -- PONTE VEDRA ZONING RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL AS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CRY YEAH TO MAXIMIZE THE SITE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT SIMILAR TO ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT. I DID WANT TO PROVIDE A LOCK AT THE AJACEMENT DEVELOPMENT AND THE PLANS FOR EACH OF THESE PLANNED SPECIAL DEVELOPMENTS AND THE PUD WAS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT PACKET. I WANTED TO JUST POINT OUT THE PARCELS ARE SIMILAR ALLOWING SIMILAR SQUARE FOOTAGE AS WELL AS USES WITH SIMILAR SETBACKS. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TWO STRUCTURES PROPOSED, THEY ALSO ARE PROVIDING A TEN FOOT SETBACK TO THE RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS THE PARKING IN THE FRONT. SO THE PONTE VEDRA ARC HEARD THIS ITEM ON MARCH 28TH.THEY DISCUSSED THE REQUESTED WAIVERS FOR THE OVERLAY PROVISIONS WITH THE LIMITED COMMERCIAL USES AND THE PROPOSED BUFFERS AND SETBACK TO THE AJACE NITTY RESIDENTIAL. AND THEY DID SUGGEST ADDITIONAL LIMITATIONS TO PROVIDE NO MORE THAN MAXIMUM OF TWO END USERS OR UNITS FOR THE COMMERCIAL PROJECT AND TO FURTHER REDISTRICT THE USES TO PROHIBIT RESTAURANTS AND FOOD BEVERAGE OPERATIONS. THESE ARE INCLUDED IN THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS PUD WITH A 4-0 VOTE WITH THOSE ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS. THIS BOARD ORIGINALLY HEARD THIS ITEM ON APRIL 2ND. THEY DID EXPRESS CONCERNS FOR THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL USES AND THE NUMBER OF WAIVERS REQUESTED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARCEL.
FURTHER REVISIONS TO THE MDP WERE SUGGESTED AND DISCUSSED TO ADDRESS CONCERNS REQUIRING INNER-CONNECTIVITY WITH AJACE NITTY NON-RESIDENTIAL PARCELS TO IMPROVE SITE DESIGN. FURTHER RESTRICT OFFICE USES PROHIBITING RESTAURANTS AND ALCOHOL USE, AS WELL AS TO REDUCE THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING TO ACCOMMODATE BUFFERS, PARKING AND SETBACKS. I WAS RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL AT THE TIME TO A 5-1 VOTE. SO, CORRESPONDENCE WAS RECEIVED FOR THIS APPLICATION AND PUBLIC COMMENT WAS PROVIDED DURING THE BOARD MEETING BY NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS AND REPRESENTATIVES WHICH QUESTIONED THE INNER-CONNECTIVITY WITH ADJACENT PARCELS. THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND INCLUDES REVISIONS TO THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO FURTHER RESTRICT THIS COMMERCIAL USES, HAVE ENHANCED SCREENING WITHIN THE BUFFERS AND PROVIDE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING TO INCREASE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT. LOOK AT SOME OF THE REVISIONS. I HAVE ALSO PROVIDED A RED LINE FOR THE MOST RECENT REVISIONS THAT WERE DONE. THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT BASED ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER'S REQUEST. SO, PROHIBITIVE USES INCLUDES NOT ONLY RESTAURANTS AND ALCOHOL SALES BUT ALSO INCLUDES CONVENIENCE STORES, VETERINARY HOSPITALS, ANY TYPE OF AUTOMOTIVE SERVICES, LANDSCAPE SERVICES, TATTOO STUDIOS, GAMBLING, DISPENSARY FOR MARIJUANA, ADULT USES, AND CLUBS WHICH WOULD ALLOW VAPING OR SMOKING. THOSE WERE INCLUDED IN THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THEY ALSO ELIMINATED A COUPLE OF WAIVERS WHICH WAS A RELIEF TO THE TEN FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER THAT YOU ORIGINALLY SAW AS WELL AS PLACEMENT OF THE SIGN. DESIGN STANDARDS ARE INCLUDED TO LIMIT THE WINDOW PLACEMENT AT THE WEST ELEVATION NO LESS THAN SIX FEET ABOVE THE FINISHED FLOOR TO RAISE THOSE WINDOWS UP SO THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO LOOK DIRECTLY AT THE NEIGHBORS AND TO DO MAXIMUM OF TWO SEPARATE UNIT USES IN THE BUILDING. ENHANCED LANDSCAPING WAS PROVIDED. THEY'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN REQUIRING SCREENING IN THE REDUCE WIDTH BUFFERS AND PROVIDE TEN FOOT TALL CANOPY TREES. TEN FOOT ON CENTER WITHIN THE WEST AND SOUTH BUFFER AREAS. STAFF FINDS REZONING REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COASTS AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE PUD AND PROVIDES 9 FINDING OF FACTS TO APPROVE AND TEN FINDING OF FACTS TO DENY THE ZONING REQUEST. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. AND STAFF WILL BE STANDING BY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
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CHAIRMAN: DOES ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF NOW>> MADAM CHAIR, USUALLY YOU PROVIDE ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS OR ANY DISCLOSURES. YOU SHOULD ONLY DO IT SINCE THE LAST TIME YOU MET. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PRIOR APP HEARING AND DISCLOSE THOSE. ANY SITE VISITS THAT YOU HAVE MADE SINCE YOUR FIRST PVZAB HEARING SHOULD BE DISCLOSED.
CHAIRMAN: THANK YOU, PAUL. JOHN >> I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE. I HAVE NOT BEEN THERE RECENTLY OR DISCUSSED THIS WITH THIS ANYBODY. BOARD MEMBER: I HAVE NOT LOOK AT THE SITE SINCE THE PREVIOUS TIME AND I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO ANYBODY. CHAIRMAN: I VISITED THE SITE BUT DIDN'T SPEAK TO ANYONE. BOARD MEMBER: I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE AND I DID NOT SPEAK TO ANYBODY.
CHAIRMAN: DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? BOARD MEMBER: IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE NORTH IS GOING TO PERMIT FLOW THROUGH TRAFFIC FROM THIS PARCEL? I NOTICE YOU SHOWED TWO AREAS WHERE THEY COULD GO TOWARDS MARLIN ROAD AND IF THE OTHER PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED GO TO THE SOUTH. SPEAKER: THOSE AREAS ARE INCLUDE ON THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP. IF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE AGREEABLE, THAT COULD BE PROPOSED. MORN IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. I KNOW THAT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS ALSO SPOKEN WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS REGARDING INNER-CONNECTIVITY. BUT IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT OF OUR CODE. BUT IT WOULD BE ALLOWED.
BOARD MEMBER: OKAY. THEN, HAS ANYTHING CHANGED SINCE LAST YEAR'S MEETING WHERE THE PROPERTY ON THE NORTH APPEARED PRETTY MUCH ADAMANT ABOUT NOT HAVING FLOW-THROUGH TRAFFIC? SPEAKER: I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY CHANGE BUT I CAN LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK ON THAT AS WELL. BOARD MEMBER: THANK YOU.
SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON. DOUG BURNETT ST. JOHN'S LAW GROUP HERE IN FLORIDA. LET ME JUMP IN REAL QUICK. MR. BECKER, YOUR QUESTION. ERIC AND TYLER TIBBETTS OWN THE PARCEL TO THE NORTH. THEY WERE HERE IN OPPOS OPPOSITION. I'VE GOT SOME DOCUMENTATION I'LL SHOW YOU NOW.
THEY'RE NOT IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROJECT ANYMORE. THE QUICK PART IS THE COUNTY CODE SAYS WE HAVE TO IN A PUD SHOW INNER-CO INNER-CONNECTIVITY. IF WE DON'T, IF WE CAME BACK LATER AND WANTED TO CONNECT TO THE NORTH, SINCE THAT CONNECTION WASN'T SHOWN, WE'D HAVE TO COME THROUGH FOR A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO THE PUD TO MODIFY THE PUD TO ALLOW THE CONNECTION. RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE A CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO SITES, BUT IT'S BEING PROVIDED FOR IN THE ZONING. IT VERY WELL MAY HAPPEN. TO THE SOUTH OF HERE WHERE CHASE BANK IS, THE CONNECTION TO THE GATE GAS STATION SITE THERE, I ACTUALLY NEGOTIATED WITH GATE TO OBTAIN THAT ACCESS FOR THE DEVELOPER OF THE CHASE BANK SITE. SO IT'S LIKELY THAT IT HAPPENS. IT MAKES SENSE SO OFTENTIMES IF THE USES ARE COMPATIBLE AND I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN TO A MUCH BETTER PLACE.
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH MORE DETAIL AND SHOW YOU EXAMPLES OF THAT. WE'RE IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE THAN WE WERE PREVIOUSLY AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE OPPOSITION HERE NOW. AND I'LL GO THROUGH THAT. MAYBE PUT SOME VISUAL TO MS. FRAZIER'S PRESENTATION. OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE SITE, YOU CAN SEE JUST IN GENERAL WHAT'S THERE AND THERE'S THAT CHASE BANK AND THE CONNECTION I WAS TALKING ABOUT TO GATE RIGHT IN THIS LOCATION.
OUR SITE PLAN, AS MS. FRAZIER WENT OVER, I'LL JUST PUT A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT TO IT. YOU CAN SEE HERE IS OUR SITE LOCATED AT THIS SPOT. WE ARE IN A POSITION ON THE ROADWAY OF A1A PRIOR TO THE [INAUDIBLE] LANE. FDOT HAVE TOLD US WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET A CONNECTION POINT STRAIGHT TO A1A. SO, YOU CAN SEE THOSE USES. ONE THING TO POINT OUT HERE IS OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE IS AT 3,000 SQUARE FEET. THIS BUILDING IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH, AMERICA'S CHOICE TITLE, OCCUPIES IT. AGAIN OWNED BY THE TIBBETTS BROTHERS. THAT'S 3192 SQUARE FEET. YOU CAN SEE THE COM MARTA BUILDING. THE APPROACH TO THE BUILDING. YOU CAN SEE TO THE NORTH THE COME MARTA BUILDING. THIS IS RELEVANT BECAUSE OUR SITE LAYS OUT SIMILARLY TO BOTH OF THESE SITES. AGAIN, COM MARTA TO THE LEFT AMERICA'S CHOICE, THE SITE I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
ONE THING TO POINT OUT. WHEN WE ORIGINALLY CAME TO YOU OUR SIGN
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NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THIS. BUT IT WAS OVER IN THIS LOCATION OUT ON THE GRASS, IF YOU WILL. IT WOULD BE FURTHER. WE'VE MOVED OUR SIGN BACK TO BE WITHIN THE OUTSIDE OF THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND FURTHER CLOSER TO OUR PROJECT. AGAIN, LOOKING AT THAT PROPERTY, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY'VE GOT PARKING ON EACH SIDE OF THEIR BUILDING. LOOKING AT THE AERIAL OF THOSE TWO SITES, IF WE LOOK AT THE COM MARTA BUILDING FIRST, I ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR PLAN. IF WE ZOOM THEIR PLAN UP TO WHERE WE CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEIR LANDSCAPE BUFFERS AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ASKING FOR HERE TODAY FOR YOU TO APPROVE IS REALLY ON PAR WITH WHAT THEY HAVE AND WHAT THEY'VE BUILT AND WHAT THEIR APPROVALS WERE. SO, WE'RE VERY, VERY CONSISTENT FROM THAT STANDPOINT OF WHAT'S ALREADY THERE ON THE GROUND. THE DIFFERENCE THOUGH IS WE'RE COMMITTING IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO BUILD LIKE THEIRS WE'RE COMBHILTING TO ENHANCED LANDSCAPING IN THOSE AREAS WHERE THE REDUCTION IS. AND THERE'S THAT WALL ACROSS THE BACK WHICH WE'RE COMMITTING TO AS WELL. IF WE LOOK AT THE AMERICA'S CHOICE, I DON'T HAVE AN MDP MAP LIKE I JUST SHOWED YOU FOR COM MARTA BUT I SCALED IT OFF. IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THESE TEN FOOT NUMBERS. I SCALED IT USING THE COUNTY'S GIS-I MAP AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT TEN FEET ON ALL OF THOSE. IF I PULL UP THE PROPERTY DATABASE FOR THE IMMEDIATELY NORTH PARCEL, THE TIBBETTS BROTHERS BUILDING, THE ACREAGE IS .370. IT'S ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THE SITE FOR THE PUD SITE. BUILDING INFORMATION THERE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 3,000 SQUARE FOOT SO WE'RE SLIGHTLY SMALLER THAN WHAT THEIR STRUCTURE WOULD BE. YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, THAT PARKING, WHERE THEIR PARKING LAYS OUT. A LITTLE BIT OF AREA. THEY DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS ACROSS THE FRONT OF THEIR BUILDING. WE'RE GOING HAVE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF OUR BUILDING SO WE HAVE A GOOD SEPARATION BETWEEN FOLKS WALKING AND NAVIGATING BY FOOT THROUGH THE PARKING LOT VERSUS CARS. SO, YOU CAN SEE HERE WE HAVE SOME PARKING SPOTS. SIMILAR LAYOUT. YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'VE GOT A SIDEWALK LOW IN FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE. WE DID MOVE OUR SIGN BACK. THIS IS WHERE THE GREEN ARROW IS. WE'VE MOVED OUR SIGN BACK OUT OF THE BUFFER AREA. THEN AGAIN THOSE ARROWS NORTH AND SOUTH, I KNOW MR. TIBBETTS EXPRESSED THAT HE HAD A CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER THERE WOULD BE CONNECTIVITY.THIS IS ONLY IF IN THE FUTURE SOMEBODY DME COARCTED THAT WITH THE TIBBETTS BROTHER THERE MIGHT BE A CONNECTION THERE. OBVIOUSLY IT COULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE BUSINESSES IN THOSE LOCATIONS, IF FOLKS COULD GO BACK AND FORTH. OUR SITE, I THINK BASED ON YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL AND THE LAYOUT OF OUR SITE, COULD LOOK VERY MUCH LIKE THIS AT THE END OF THE DAY, OF WHAT'S EXISTING WITH AMERICA'S CHOICE. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS OUT ON THE STREET, RIGHT AND A VISUAL BLIGHT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YOU REALLY GET SOME GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR LANDSCAPING TO LOOK NICE. I THINK WHEN YOU STAND HERE AND YOU'VE BEEN BEFORE A BOARD BEFORE WITH THE SAME PROJECT SOMETHING TO IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT IS TO SAY WHERE WER WE NOW COMPARED TO PREVIOUSLY. YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THE SAME THING OVER.OU DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO COME TO YOU, BE DENIED AND COME BACK AND HAVE THE SAME THING. SO THIS JUST SHOWS YOU HOW MUCH WE'VE DONE TO THE PUD TEXT IT SELF TO LAYOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO REALLY IDENTIFY WHAT OUR PERMITTED USES ARE AND REALLY SPECIFY THOSE THINGS. UNLIKE WE DID PREVIOUSLY. WE JUST HAD GENERIC LANGUAGE IN THERE. ALSO TO HAVE VERY IDENTIFIABLE, PROHIBITED USES. THEN I'LL COME BACK TO THIS IN A MINUTE BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY ADDED SOME. THIS IS WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKET. BUT WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY OF LAST WEEK IN TALKING WITH ERIC AND TYLER TIBBETTS THEY HAD FIVE ADDITIONAL THINGS THEY WANTED AS PROHIBITED USES. WE'VE ADDED THOSE. I'LL SHOW YOU IN JUST A MOMENT. AND THEN WE'VE GOT LANGUAGE IN RESTRICT THE DIVISION OF THE BUILDING. SO, YOU REALLY COULD ONLY HAVE TWO USERS IN THE BUILDING. 3,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING SHAKES OUT TO 1,500 SQUARE FEET PER USE. THAT'S ROOM ENOUGH FOR A LAWYER, AN ACCOUNTANT, WHAT HAVE YOU, TO HAVE ABOUT THREE OFFICES, TWO SECRETARIAL OR ASSISTANT STAFF POSITIONS, AND A COUPLE OF CONFERENCE ROOMS. SO IT COULD EASILY SUPPORT THAT KIND OF USE IN 1,500 SQUARE FEET AMONG OTHERS. WHEN WE CAME TO YOU BEFORE WE HAD 3675 SQUARE FEET. SO, WE'VE DROPPED IT BY 675.
WE'VE ALSO SHORTENED OUR BUILDING BY 20 FEET. THEN WE'VE INCREASED THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE RATIO FROM 70 TO 65 PERCENT. YOU
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WILL SAY, DOUG, WHAT IS THIS BUILDING REAR WINDOW BUSINESS? WHAT IS THIS? AND I THINK IN PART, LET ME SHOW YOU A GRAPHIC.IF I'M STANDING WITH OUR BUILDING AND THE HOUSE BEHIND US, WE CAN VERY EASILY SEE EACH OTHER. BUT IF I TAKE THOSE WINDOWS AND I MOVE THEM UP TO THE SIX FOOT LEVEL IN THE OFFICE BUILDING, IT'S NOT SO EASY TO LOOK AT EACH OTHER. AND WHERE THIS WORKS GREAT FOR AN OFFICE ENVIRONMENT I CAN TELL YOU BECAUSE IN THREE OFFICES NOW, INCLUDING THE OFFICE I'M IN CURRENTLY, EVERYBODY'S INDIVIDUAL OFFICE IN THE BUILDING HAS A U-SHAPED DESK. ON THE BACK OF YOUR DESK YOU'VE GOT A CREDENZA WITH A HUTCH. INSTEAD OF HAVING TRADITIONAL WINDOWS BECAUSE THOSE WOULD BE BLOCKED BY THE HUTCH, THE BUILDING WAS BUILT WITH HIGH WINDOWS. SO THE ACTUAL BASE OF THE WINDOWS IS SIX FOOT. SO, IF YOU ARE STANDING THERE AT 5'11" LIKE I AM AND IT IS A 6'0" FOOD WINDOW YOU ARE LOOKING UP. UNLESS YOU ARE SHAQUILLE O'NEILL YOU CAN'T LOOK DIRECTLY AT SOMEBODY OR THEIR YARD BECAUSE YOU WILL BE LOOKING UP. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT MR. AND MS. STRASBURG WERE CONCERNED ABOUT. THAT SOMEBODY WOULDN'T BE LOOKING INTO THEIR BACKYARD. SO WE MADE THAT CHANGE TO THE PUD TEXT. WE'RE COMMITTING TO IT. AGAIN, JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT LANGUAGE. THIS IS THAT EXACT LANGUAGE THAT'S IN OUR PUD TEXT THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY. NO WINDOW ON THE REAR WEST OF THE BUILDING SHALL HAVE A WINDOWSILL LESS THAN SIX FEET ABOVE THE FINISH BOARD ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING. THE INTENT OF THOSE LEGISLATIONS MAKE IT SO THE REAR YARDS OR ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL HOMES ARE NOT VISIBLE FROM THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. REALLY FEEDING INTO MAKING THIS CONSISTENT, COMPATIBLE AND NOT SOMETHING INTRUSIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORS. WE SPECIFIED WHAT THE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING WOULD BE. WE'VE ADDED THAT TO OUR TEXT. THEN LATE REVISIONS. THESE ARE THE ONES, AGAIN, THERE WAS EMAIL BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN MYSELF AND COUNTY STAFF AND THE TIBBETTS BROTHERS LAST WEEK. AND THERE WAS THREE -- EXCUSE ME -- FIVE ADDITIONAL LIMITATIONS THEY WANT. THEY DID NOT WANT OBVIOUSLY THE CONVENIENCE STORES, VETERINARY HOSPITALS, ALCOHOL SALES, AUTOMOTIVE SERVICES, ADULT USES. ALSO LANDSCAPE LAWN AND GARDEN CENTERS, TATTOO STUDIOS, GAMING ESTABLISHMENTS, MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES SALES, AND THEN CLUBS AND PARLORS. SO I GUESS A CLUB AND A PARLOR IS A PRIVATE BAR KIND OF THING WHERE YOU HAVE MEMBERSHIP TYPICALLY. IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC BUT STILL SOMETHING THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE A NUISANCE TYPE USE. SO, WE'VE AGREED TO THAT. AND I GUESS THE BOTTOM LINE OF ADDING THAT IS WE DID GET AN EMAIL BACK FROM ERIC TIBBETTS THAT SAID THEY'RE NOT OPPOSING OR OBJECTING TO THE PROJECT ANYMORE AT THIS STAGE NOW THAT WE'VE MADE THESE COMMITMENTS. SO, AGAIN, JUST TAKING A LOOK AT THE PROJECT. ENHANCED LANDSCAPING ACROSS THE BACK. THAT 8 FOOT WALL ACROSS THE BACK. OBVIOUSLY THE HIGH WINDOWS. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE SIDEWALK LAYS IN. AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF I CAN.
WE'VE COME A LONG WAY FROM WHERE WE RAH ORIGINALLY AND I AM MINDFUL OF THE COMMENTS THE BOARD MADE PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE WERE HERE AND TRIED TO TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION NOW THAT WE'RE BACK HERE. CHAIRMAN: QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBER: LET ME RECONFIRM I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY ON THE INNER-CONNECTIVITY. BASICALLY, THERE IS REALLY NO AGREEMENT TO THE NORTH ON INNER-CONNECTIVITY AND A CHANGE IN THE PUD WOULD BE REQUIRED THERE; IS THAT THE CORRECT UNDERSTANDING? SPEAKER: NO, SIR. IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE ARROWS IN THERE AND IN OUR PUD SAY THERE'S POTENTIAL INNER-CONNECT YVETTE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF COMING TO YOU AND GOING TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WITH A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO THE PUD TO EVER MAKE THAT CONNECTION POSSIBLE. BOARD MEMBER: ON EITHER SIDE? SPEAKER: CORRECT. WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE PUT IT IN THERE THAT IT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET THOSE CONNECTIONS. THE PROPERTY OWNERS MAY AGREE. AND SO OUR PUD DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MODIFIED IN THE FUTURE TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS POSSIBLE. BOARD MEMBER: HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE SOUTH IN THAT REGARD? SPEAKER: YES, SIR. MR. BECKER, WE TALK TO THEM QUITE A BIT. AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT IT IS A HUSBAND AND WIFE. YOU MAY RECALL THAT KATHY WHITE, THEIR REAL ESTATE AGENT, HAD COME TO THE PRIOR HEARING. NOT OPPOSING THE PROJECT BUT, VOICING THAT THEY OWN AND THEY DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING NEGATIVE FROM OUR PROJECT NEGATIVELY IMPACTING
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THEIRS. WE'VE TALKED TO THEM. WE ACTUALLY DID PROPOSE A CONNECTION WITH THEM. AND AT THIS TIME THEY DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO INTENT OF DEVELOPING THE SITE IS WHAT MS. WHITE COMMUNICATED BACK TO US. AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT A FUTURE DEVELOPER WOULD WANT TO DO WITH THEIR SITE. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO ENCUMBER IT WITH AN EASEMENT FOR CONNECTION. SO, AT THIS STAGE THEY JUST WANT TO SELL IT AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE IT WILL BE UP TO THEM.BOARD MEMBER: OKAY. SPEAKER: SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT ISSUE TO THE SOUTH. BOARD MEMBER: DID I UNDERSTAND THAT THE OTHER TWO BUILDINGS HAVE A 8 FOOT WALL BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS? SPEAKER: YES, SIR. BEST I CAN TELL. I ASSUME IT'S 8 FOOT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT.
BOARD MEMBER: OKAY. ALSO, IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THERE WAS A DE-CEL LANE GOING INTO YOUR PROPERTY. I KNOW THAT'S UP TO THE D.O.T. BUT THE OTHER PROPERTY AJAYSENCE, THE ONE ON THE SOUTH DOES. SPEAKER: THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THERE. WE'RE A -- THERE'S A THRESHOLD FOR WHEN THAT COMES IN TO PLAY BASED ON TRIP GENERATION TYPICALLY. AND WE'RE POTENTIALLY A VERY LOW TRIP GENERATOR. AND BASED ON HOW IT'S BEEN PAIRED BACK, THE USES, OBVIOUSLY NO RESTAURANT, NONE OF THE HIGH TIP GENERATED USES ARE LISTED. I THINK IN OUR 3,000 SQUARE FOOT NUMBER OR BELOW IT MAY BE THAT A DE-SELL LANE IS NOT REQUIRED. IT MAY ALSO BE THAT FDOT HAS A REASON THEY DON'T WANT IT. I'M NOT SURE ON THAT ISSUE. WHEN IT COMES TIME TO GO THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN PROCESS, THE COUNTY WILL OBVIOUSLY LOOK AT IT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'LL LOOK AT PARTICULARLY IS WHAT IS OUR FDOT PERMIT SAY. AND WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FULL PROCESS TO OBTAIN THE PERMIT FOR THE CONNECTION. THAT'S WHEN THE DETERMINATION WILL BE MADE AS FAR AS WHAT THE CONNECTION TO A1A IS AND WHAT'S REQUIRED TO BE DONE.
BOARD MEMBER: OKAY. THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBER: AS I UNDERSTAND YOUR PRESENTATION, WHAT YOU ARE REQUESTING IS SIMILAR TO WHAT THE TWO PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH HAVE? AS FAR AS THE SETBACKS AND EASEMENTS? WHAT ABOUT PARKING SPACE SIZES. DID YOU ACTUALLY -- YOU ARE ASKING FOR REQUEST FOR SMALLER PARKING SPACES.
SPEAKER: THE TRADEOFF THERE -- IT'S INTERESTING. I DIDN'T GET OUT AND MEASURE THE PARKING SPACES. I CAN TELL YOU I KNOW THE SITE PRETTY WELL AND HAVE BEEN THERE A FEW TIMES. THE -- WHAT IT APPEARS TO ME IS THAT A PARKING IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE COUNTY. AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS IN THE COUNTY IN PONTE VEDRA THEY WANT LARGER PARKING SPACES BUT HAVE SMALLER DRIVE OFFS. IN THE COUNTY WE HAVE LARGER DRIVE AISLES AND SMALLER PARKING PLACES. IT LOOKS LIKE PRIOR TO, THESE SITES ARE S OLD, THEY WERE PRIOR TO THE OVERLAY. SO, LOOKS LIKE OUR PARKING SITUATION WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO THEIRS. I CAN'T SAY THAT FOR SURE BUT THAT'S MY PERCEPTION. BOARD MEMBER: OKAY THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. IT IS SIMILAR. BOARD MEMBER: YES, SIR. YOU COULD SEE POTENTIALLY FEWER PARKING SPACES ON THERE IF YOU HAD A VERY LOW TRIP GENERATOR USE WHEN IT IS ACTUALLY BUILT.
CHAIRMAN: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. ON PAGE 11 OF THE REPORT, FIGURE 2 HAS THE COMPARISONS IN THE DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN THE TWO EXISTING PROFESSIONAL BUILDINGS TO THE NORTH AND THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE APPLICANT WOULD BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE OLD HISTORICAL REQUIREMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PROFESSIONAL PROPERTY. AND I AM JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT PRECIPITATED IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT TO HAVE THE MORE GENEROUS SETBACKS AND ET CETERA. SO, IF WE DID APPROVE THIS, WE WOULD BE GOING BACK IN TIME TO WHAT USED TO BE, AS OPPOSED TO STICKING WITH WHAT THE NEW -- THIS WAS ALL BEFORE MY TIME SO I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. SPEAKER: THE OVERLAY TOOK ANOTHER LOOK AT COMBAT BUILT AND ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS REGARDING THE HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURES AND DISTANCE FROM RESIDENCE SHH DID INCREASE SOME OF THE BUFFERS AND SETBACKS.
BUT CONSISTENT WITH THE PARCEL TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH, THOSE ARE VERY SIMILAR. AND YOU WILL SEE WITH THE COM MARTA BUILDING THEY WERE REQUIRED TO REQUEST WAIVERS FOR A LOT OF THE SAME REQUESTS THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE BASED ON THE SIZE OF THAT
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LOT. SO THE OVERLAY DOES TAKE SOME ADDITIONAL TIME, BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SCREENING WILL BE THE SAME AND IT WILL HAVE TO BE REVIEWED. THEY DID LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, REDUCTION IN THOSE BUFFERS AND FELT THE COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS COULD JUSTIFY THAT. THE REDUCTION.CHAIRMAN: DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO I HEAR A MOTION? BOARD MEMBER: I MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PUD 2017-7 PONTE VEDRA LAKES PUD BASED ON THE 9 FINDINGS OF FACT AND THE RECENT HANDOUT THAT WAS GIVEN TO US TODAY.
BOARD MEMBER: SECOND. CHAIRMAN: WE'LL HAVE A VOTE NOW.
CAN WE SEE THE VOTE ON THE SCREEN? THIS DEVICE ISN'T WORKING ADJACENT TO ME. SO THE APPLICANT, YOU HAVE AN APPROVAL.
SPEAKER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DID FORGET ONE THING AND I JUST WANT TO ADD THIS. MY CLIENTS, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT LAST NAMES NOW BUT THEIR MAIDEN NAMES EVA PERRY, KATHY PERRY, AND KIM PERRY. ON BEHALF OF THEM THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.
CHAIRMAN: THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE US, I WOULD LIKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. BOARD MEMBER: I MOVE WE ADJOURN.
BOARD MEMBER: SECOND. CHAIRMAN: ALL IN FAVOR?
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.