[1. MINMOD 2025-07 Vicars Landing at Sawgrass Parking Garage. Request for a Minor Modification to the Player's Club PUD (ORD 1975-15, as amended) to allow for the construction ofa new multi-story parking garage that Will include maintenance facilities to serve the Vicar's Landing community, located specifically at 1008 Vicars Woods Road.]

VERY MUCH. >> ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE WILL MOVED ITEM ONE. THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME FORWARD? IS THERE ANYTHING FROM AGENCY MEMBERS?

>> I VISITED THE SITE. >> GO AHEAD, SIR.

>> AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. RYAN STILLWELL. 13 901 SUTTON PARK DRIVE IN JACKSONVILLE. I'M HERE TO REPRESENT VICKERS LANDING FOR THEIR NEW PROJECT AT VICKERS LANDING AND SAWGRASS. I DO HAVE DALE FROM VICARS LENDING, AS WELL AS JEFF MASON AND JOHN CLARK THAT WORK WITH THE TEAM , AS WELL AS REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE MARRIOTT TO AND ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL COMMITTEE WITH ME, AS WELL. I WANTED TO WALK THE BOARD THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OF THE PROJECT AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO THERE AND REGARDLESS TO THIS . IT IS 2025-07 . A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND LOCATION AREA HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WHERE VICARS AND SAWGRASS IS PRETTY JUST BEHIND SAWGRASS VILLAGE INDICATES IN THE SAWGRASS PLAYERS CLUB , TO THE EAST BY THE MARRIOTT TO THE WEST AND BY THE PLAYERS CLUB VILLAS AND TO THE SOUTH BY THE SAWGRASS GOLF COURSE. THE EXISTING LEGISLATION ON THE PROPERTY DATES ALL THE WAY BACK TONIGHT 35 TO 1975. SAWGRASS PLAYERS CLUB AND THE VICARS LANDING AT SAWGRASS SPECIFIC MODIFICATIONS AND RESOLUTIONS WERE DONE IN 1986 ORIGINALLY AND FOLLOWED ON IN 1997 WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT HAS PRETTY MUCH STAYED INTACT SINCE THAT TIME. THE PROPOSED PARKING GARAGE IS AT THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE AND SPECIFICALLY IN REFERENCE TO THE PARKING GARAGE WHERE IT USED TO BE CALLED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN 1986 AND 1987 WERE WE CALL MORE OF A SITE PLAN TODAY. DID NOT REFERENCE PARKING GARAGES AND ALSO REFERENCED A 775 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE ADJACENT HOTEL SITE , SO WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE TWO THINGS SPECIFICALLY . LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, THIS PLAN NORTH TO THE RIGHT TO PLAN RIGHT AND THE PARKING GARAGE IS SITUATED ON EXISTING PROPERTY WHERE THERE IS AN EXISTING MAINTENANCE AND STORAGE FACILITY AND LAUNDRY FACILITY TODAY.

THERE IS A STORMWATER TO THE WEST AND THERE IS A PROPOSED FACILITY THAT WILL REPLACE THE LAUNDRY AND STORAGE ASPECTS AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING , THEN FLOORS TWO THROUGH FOUR WOULD BE PARKING FOR THEIR EXISTING STAFF. THIS GARAGE TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT HISTORY OF HOW VICARS OPERATES WITH THE LIFE CARE FACILITY FOR MOVING THERE FROM THE END OF THEIR LIFE AND THEIR LIFE IN THE BEAUTIFUL VILLAGE THERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO LET GO OF THEIR VEHICLES. WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS THEY HAVE TWO VEHICLES WITH NOT ENOUGH PARKING FOR STAFF . STAFF TAKES THOSE PARKING SPACES, THE NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR GUESTS. THE GOAL OF THE PARKING GARAGE IS TO PROVIDE FOR STAFF AND ALLOW THE RESIDENTS TO CONTINUE TO PARK RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR EXISTING FACILITIES. OR THEIR EXISTING UNITS. THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST AN ELEVATION OF THE GARAGE. THIS IS LOOKING AT THE GARAGE FROM THE WEST, WHICH IS WHAT THE VIEW FROM THE PLAYERS CLUB VILLAS WOULD BE.

OPEN AIR ON THE BOTTOM, IT WILL ALLOW SOME GOLF CART PARKING AND SERVICE VEHICLES THAT ONLY VICARS WOULD USE ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR IN THE SECOND, THIRD AND FOURTH FLOORS . WE ALREADY UPDATED THAT FACADE FOR SOME MORE WINDOW PAINTING, AS OPPOSED TO TYPICAL SPAN OF A PARKING GARAGE. THIS IS ALSO THE ARCHITECT'S RENDERING . ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING IS MAINTAINING TREES ALONG THE EXISTING BANKS THERE , WHICH WOULD SCREEN THE GARAGE AND ITS GHOSTED BACK AND VERY DIFFICULT TO SCREEN TREES AND SHOW WHAT'S ACTUALLY REMAINING , SO THERE WILL BE EXISTING TREES BETWEEN THE GARAGE AND THE POND THAT REMAINED . AS YOU CAN SEE, THE HEIGHT DEPICTED HERE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE IS LOWER THAN A LOT OF THE EXISTING PINE TREES IN THE AREA. SIMILARLY, THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING BACK ON THE 11TH BOX OF THE SAWGRASS GOLF COURSE , VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT, AS WE ALL KNOW. ONE OF THE VERY IMPORTANT THINGS THAT THEY WORRY ABOUT IS THEIR THREE NEIGHBORS AND HOW THE GARAGE IMPACTS AND I DO HAVE A COUPLE OTHER SLIDES TOWARD THE END IN REGARDS TO OUR

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COORDINATION WITH THE TOUR AND VIEW FROM THE 11TH BOX. MOVING ON TO THE SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT WE NEED CLARIFICATION ON, WHICH WEREN'T SPECIFIC TO THE PREVIOUS FDP. THE FIRST ITEM IS JUST THAT A PARKING GARAGE IS AN ALLOWABLE USE WITHIN THIS .

THERE ARE EXISTING PARKING GARAGES THAT EXIST TODAY TO THE EAST ALONG SOME PARKING GARAGE IS THERE BEHIND SOME OF THE BUSINESSES, AS WELL AS THE GARAGE THAT IS UNDERNEATH THE CONFERENCE AREA AT THE MARRIOTT DIRECTLY ADJACENT . AGAIN, IT'S A SUBORDINATE USE AND WE ARE NOT BUILDING THE GARAGE TO TRY TO GROW THE BUSINESS, BUT THIS IS A FUNCTION OF USE OF STAFF AND RESIDENTS ARE ALREADY THERE. WE ARE NOT SEEKING INCREASED UNITS OR ANYTHING FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. THE REASON WE ARE USING THE GARAGE VERSUS EXPANDING THE EXISTING PARKING LOTS IS THE SIGNIFICANT TREE CANOPY THAT IS THERE THAT HAS BEEN THERE OVER THE LAST 30 OR 30 YEARS. THERE IS ROOM THAT WE CAN TAKE DOWN TREES AND EXPAND PARKING LOT, BUT THAT WOULD DETRIMENT VIEWS FROM OTHER AREAS OF SAWGRASS ADJACENT TO VICARS LANDING IN REGARDS TO ACROSS THE POND AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THE SECOND ITEM IS LOOKING AT THE ORIGINAL 1986 RESOLUTION , 175 FOOT SETBACK ADJACENT TO THE HOTEL, WHICH IS EAST. WE ARE TO REMOVE THAT 75 FEET FOR THE LOCATION OF THE PARKING GARAGE , BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN EXISTING BUILDINGS IN THAT PLACE THAT WAS SHOWN THAT WERE APPROVED AT THE SAME TIME AS THE TEXT. I WILL TRY TO USE THE POINTER HERE TO SHOW YOU EXACTLY , BUT THIS IS THE SITE PLAN APPROVED IN THIS BOX HERE AT THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE, WHICH IS WHERE THE EXISTING MAINTENANCE FACILITY IS SHOWN WELL WITHIN 75 FEET AND CURRENTLY SITS 11 FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE AND HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR OVER 30 YEARS FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE REST OF THE FACILITY WAS BUILT, THIS MAINTENANCE FACILITY HAS BEEN THERE FOR THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT. THIS GIVES A LITTLE BIT BETTER VIEW OF THE EXISTING MAINTENANCE FACILITY AS THE RECTANGLE SHOWN IN BLUE AND WHERE THE RED 75 FOOT LINE IS FOR SOME OF THE OTHER EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT ARE PART OF THE CAMPUS WERE SHOWN ON THE FTP POLITY IN THE 75 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE ADJACENT HOTEL SITE. AS PART OF OUR APPROVAL FOR THIS PARKING GARAGE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS, THE PLAYERS CLUB , THE PGA TOUR, AS WELL AS THE MARRIOTT . THE MARRIOTT HAS AGREED TO ALLOW US ACCESS FROM THEIR SITE TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN AND BRING IN THE PANELS REQUIRED FOR THE PARKING GARAGE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE AND SUPPORT FROM THE PROJECT ITSELF FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE TREES DOWN AND REPLANT THOSE FOR TEMPORARY ACCESS. THAT TALKS TO THE 75 FOOT SETBACK AND I DO HAVE ONE OTHER THING. IF WE COULD, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT UP ON THE SCREEN FOR EVERYONE . THIS IS A LETTER WE RECEIVED AFTER OUR POWERPOINT WAS SUBMITTED EARLIER THIS WEEK FROM THE SAWGRASS PLAYERS CLUB ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL COMMITTEE. WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THE LETTER IS THAT WE HAVE THEIR APPROVAL, BUT THERE WERE THREE CONDITIONS THAT WERE ADDED TO THE LETTER IN REGARDS TO THE GARAGE. AFTER WORKING WITH THE PGA TOUR AND THEIR CONCERNS FROM THE 11TH T BOX VIEW, THOSE THINGS INCLUDE OPERATIONS OF THE PARKING GARAGE SECOND THROUGH FOURTH FLOOR DURING THE GOLF TOURNAMENT TO PRESENT ANY NOISE OR CAR ALARMS OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SIMILARLY ADDING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE SCREENING AND BUFFERING BETWEEN THE GARAGE AND THEIR PROPERTY LINE, AS WELL AS PAINTING THE FACADE OF THE GARAGE FROM THE 11TH BOX, WHICH ARE ALL THAT WE WANT TO READ FOR PURPOSES OF THE RECORD THAT WE HAVE, AS WELL. OUTSIDE OF THAT, THAT IS A SUMMARY OF OUR ITEMS. JUST TWO ITEMS THAT WE ARE SEEKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON WITHIN THE .

>> WE HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, IF THAT'S OKAY. DO YOU HAVE MORE?

>> I'M FINISHED. >> HILSENBECK?

>> AT 58 FEET AND THAT IS FOR THE TOWERS FOR THE ELEVATORS AT 58 FEET, WHAT ARE THE OTHER HEIGHTS OR STRUCTURES WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY? AND, ON YOUR PROPERTY. ABOUT THE MARRIOTT.

>> WE DID CLARIFY WITH STAFF THE EXISTING PUD. THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT

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IS 100 FEET. 58 FEET IS WITHIN THE REQUIREMENTS, SO THERE IS NO VARIANCE REQUEST FOR THE HEIGHT, BUT I KNOW THAT THE MARRIOTT IS SEVEN STORIES . I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT HEIGHT, BUT THE PARKING GARAGE WOULD BE FOUR STORIES OF THE 58 TO THE TOP OF THE TOWER . THE PARKING GARAGE IS RIGHT AT 42 FEET. THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH AND I FORGET THE NAME OF IT. THE STRATFORD BUILDING ON VICKERS CAMPUS IS THREE STORIES AND IT'S JUST ABOUT 40 FEET ITSELF.

>> OKAY. I THOUGHT I READ SOMETHING AND THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR JACOB SMITH. I THOUGHT I READ SOMETHING IN THERE THAT BACK IN 1975, THE DOCUMENT THAT GAVE THE 100 FOOT HEIGHT COULD NOT BE LOCATED ANYMORE. IS THAT TRUE? IS THERE

SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES? >> FOR THE RECORD, JACOB SMITH WITH MANAGEMENT. I THINK YOU ARE SPEAKING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THIS PARCEL. WE HAVE THE TEXT LANGUAGE FOR THAT , BUT IT IS JUST THE ORIGINAL MAP. WE HAVE SUBSEQUENT MAPS PROVIDED. THERE IS NO -- THERE IS NO SPECIFIC HEIGHT LIMITATION. IT JUST CONTEMPLATED THREE-STORY BUILDINGS, BUT IT IS TECHNICALLY FALLING UNDER THE PUD AT-LARGE, WHICH IS 100 FOOT HEIGHT RESTRICTION.

>> YOU GOT AT LEAST THREE RESIDENTS IN THERE THAT ARE OPPOSING THIS . HAVE YOU WORKED WITH ANY OF THE RESIDENTS WITHIN

VICARS? >> RESIDENTS WITHIN VICARS OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE OPPOSITION LETTERS?

>> MAYBE IT'S WITHIN SAWGRASS. >> FOR REFERENCE, THERE ARE OPPOSITION LETTERS RECEIVED OR WITHIN PLAYERS CLUB VILLAS, WHICH IS ACROSS THE POND. THE THREE LETTERS THAT WERE RECEIVED COME ONE AS RIGHT HERE AND 21 PLAYERS VILLAS , WHICH FACES TO THE SOUTH AND DOESN'T ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE GARAGE, THEN NINE AND 10 THIS TO THE NORTH, SO THEY ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE GARAGE EITHER , SO THAT GOES TO OUR POINT FROM A REDEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE , PARKING AND OTHER LOCATIONS ON VICARS. WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE TREES DOWN IN OTHER LOCATIONS TO PUT PARKING -- SURFACE PARKING THAT WOULD DETRIMENT THAT VIEW. THOSE OPPOSITION LETTERS ARE CLOSE PROXIMITY , BUT NOT LOOKING AT

THE LOCATION OF THE GARAGE. >> WITHIN VICARS ITSELF, THE COMMUNITY THERE ABOUT THIS. I'M JUST CURIOUS THAT YOU WORKED WITH THE COMMUNITY. I WILL HAVE TO SAY WHILE HE'S COMING UP, I LIKE VICARS LANDING A LOT AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT COMMUNITY. I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS AND PARENTS IN THE PAST THAT LIVED THERE AND I HAVE FRIENDS THAT LIVE THERE. SOMEDAY MAYBE.

>> IT'S A GROWING MARKET. IT'S A GREAT PLACE.

>> I'M DALE PERKINS . I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH YOUR QUESTION . DID YOU CANVAS OR POLE PEOPLE ABOUT THIS PARKING GARAGE?

>> THEY ARE ACTUALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES MENTIONED IS PARKING. WHERE DO YOU PARK? IT'S BEEN AN ONGOING PROBLEM WHEN THIS ORIGINALLY CAME UP FOR A MAJOR MOD IN 2018.

JAY MADE COMMENTS AT THE END AND VICARS WAS A GREAT PLACE AT THE END. THERE'S ONLY ONE PROBLEM WITH VICARS LANDING. WHEN YOU COME, THERE'S NO PLACE TO PARK. THIS EFFORT THAT WE HAVE IS REALLY ADDRESSING NOT JUST THE PARKING, BUT AS YOU MAY KNOW EXPANSION INTO CAMPUS, THE LAUNDRY FACILITY, MAYBE IT SHOULD WERE BUILT IN THE 80S. WE REALLY NEED AN UPDATED STATE-OF-THE-ART LAUNDRY FACILITY AND MAINTENANCE FACILITY TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE TWO CAMPUSES. OF COURSE, THE PARKING GARAGE ADDRESSES THE OTHER OPPORTUNITY. THE RESIDENTS ON CAMPUS ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE OF THE BENEFITS

THEY ARE GOING TO RECEIVE. >> GOOD ANSWER. THANK YOU.

ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT I'M CONCERNED WITH WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE MAINTENANCE SHED WHEN THAT WAS APPROVED AND IT WAS APPROVED TO BE SOMETHING LIKE 30 BY 60 FEET , THEN NOW IT

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IS 34 BY 140 FEET. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A 35 FOOT BUFFER AND IT'S ONLY AN 11 FOOT BUFFER. WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE MAINTENANCE SHED THAT IT GOT SO MUCH LARGER AND THE BUFFER

SHRINK BY 70%? >> I DON'T HAVE THE PLANS FOR WHEN THAT WAS APPROVED FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE , BUT THE 75 FOOT THAT WAS THERE WAS IMPEDED BY EXHIBIT A FROM THE PERSPECTIVE .

IT WAS ALREADY IN THAT SETBACK. >> IT WAS ALREADY IN THAT SETBACK? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> LET ME JUST SHOW HERE. >> SAID IT'S 11 FEET NOW, BUT IT WAS APPROVED FOR A 35 FOOT BUFFER WHEN IT'S ONLY AN 11

FOOT BUFFER NOW. >> WHEN HE SAID IT WAS APPROVED FR A 35 FOOT BUFFER, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT APPROVAL.

>> IT WAS IN MY MATERIALS. I'M CERTAIN OF IT.

>> IS THAT CORRECT, MR. SMITH? >> YEAH, SO HILSENBECK 'S QUESTION, IT WILL HAVE THE EXACT DATE AND I'M LOOKING AT 1993 POTENTIALLY . AS PART OF THAT APPROVAL TO PLACE IT THERE IT DID SAY THAT IT WAS A SETBACK FOR 35 FEET IN LIEU OF THE 75 FOOT STANDARD AND IT WAS FOR A BUILDING OF APPROXIMATELY 35 OR 60 FEET. THE BUILDING THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED THERE IS LARGER THAN THAT. STAFF COULD NOT LOCATE ANY OTHER RECORDS TO GO DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE WITH HOW IT WAS OTHERWISE BUILT AND APPROVED

LIKE IT SITS. >> THANK YOU.

>> SPIEGEL? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I TRIED TO GET OUT THERE AND LOOK, BUT IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY AND I COULDN'T GET IN. I DID GO AROUND BY THE MARRIOTT AND KIND OF SEE. I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION BUT IT DEFINITELY FEELS DIFFERENT TO ME TO HEAR YOU TALK THEN TO LOOK AT THIS TINY PICTURE AND TRY TO PICTURE WHAT IT WILL BE LIKE. MY QUESTIONS WERE ABOUT HOW THIS WAS GOING TO BE MANAGED BY

VICARS LANDING STAFF ? >> YES.

>> THIS IS NOT A FOR-PROFIT ENTITY ? PEOPLE WILL NOT HAVE TO

PAY? >> IT IS FOR STAFF AND RESIDENTS

ONLY. >> THE LITTLE ENTRANT ENTRYWAY WILL BE DONE AND IT WILL NOT BE USED. YOU SAY -- I'M SORRY TO BE IGNORANT AND I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES ON.

>> ONE OF THE MAIN FUNCTIONS FOR MY STAFF PERSPECTIVE IS NURSING AND MAINTENANCE, SO THEY DO OPERATE ON SHIFTS FROM NURSING AND SIMILAR TO ANY KIND OF HEALTHCARE FACILITY, SO THEY HAVE SHIFT TURNOVER, BUT IT ISN'T THAT ONE STOPS AT EIGHT AND THE OTHER STARTS. THEY HAVE OVERLAP ISSUES FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE.

>> I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND LISTENING TO THE SURROUNDINGS OF PLAYERS AND MAKING CHANGES TO HELP THEM BE BETTER WITH IT . I ALSO APPRECIATE THE SMALLER FOOTPRINT. PARKING IS AN ISSUE AND IT CREATES A LOT OF PERVIOUS SURFACE, SO I GUESS THIS IS A SMALLER FOOTPRINT AND IT JARRED ME. I'M LOOKING AT IT IN RELATION TO THE TREES AND IT'S NOT QUITE AS JARRING AS I THOUGHT. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS ABOUT IT AND I WANT TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT IF THERE'S ANY,

BUT THANK YOU. >> JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. THE ACCESS -- THE PROPOSED ACCESS BEHIND THE

MARRIOTT, WILL THAT BE GATED? >> THE CURRENT IS GATED AND PRIOR TO VICARS AFTER THE MARRIOTT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH AND THE ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL COMMITTEE IS THAT IT HAS REMAINED CLOSED AT ALL TIMES. ONLY WHEN A TRUCK IS COMING IN AND OUT, SO IT WILL BE CLOSED AND LOCKED AT NIGHT AFTER THE TRUCKS HAVE COME IN AND OUT AS NEEDED FOR THE

CONSTRUCTION OPERATIO. >> I'M GLAD THAT YOU WILL BE DOING MORE LANDSCAPING BETWEEN THE HOLE IN THE GARAGE. WHAT ARE THE PLANS AS FAR AS THE LANDSCAPE IS CONCERNED?

>> IT WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF TREES AND SHRUBS. THE ONE DIFFICULTY AS YOU ARE PROBABLY AWARE IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT -- LET ME GO BACK TO THE PICTURE. THERE ARE SOME TALL EXISTING TREES IN THE AREA, SO WE WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF ONCE WE HAVE -- THERE IS A 30 FOOT EASEMENT ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT SEPARATES THE GARAGE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE THERE , BUT OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T PLANT TREES THAT ARE OF SIGNIFICANT HEIGHT WE HAVE THE TREE CANOPY OVERHANGING, SO WE WILL BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND WORK DILIGENTLY TO HELP PROVIDE THE SCREENING IN BOTH TREES AND SHRUBS.

>> IS THAT A DRAINAGE AREA TO THE POND?

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>> IT IS WHAT IS CALLED A CANAL EASEMENT. IT GOES AROUND THE ENTIRE SAWGRASS PLAYERS CLUB. THOSE CANALS WERE ACTUALLY INSTALLED IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, SO AS PART OF THE PROJECT, YOU WILL BE INSTALLING A 60 INCH PIPE IN THE AREA THAT COMES FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST ACROSS THE PROPERTY AND WE WILL BE REPLACING IT AS PART OF THE PROJECT, SO THE AGE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PROVIDING ACCESS TO THAT UNDER THE GARAGE,

AS WELL. >> THANKS.

>> ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD WRITTEN DOWN AND OVERLOOKED. I KNOW THINGS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS, OF COURSE. THIS HAS BEEN 50 YEARS . ORIGINALLY 75 FOOT BUFFER WAS OKAY AND NOW YOU WANT A 10 FOOT BUFFER. THAT IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE. ARE THERE ANY ALTERNATIVE SITE PLANS THAT YOU HAVE COME UP WITH? IT'S GOT TO BE THE 10 FOOT BUFFER TO THE MARRIOTT OR NOTHING ? THERE CAN'T BE A 25 FOOT? THIS IS SET AND STONE WITH NO ALTERNATIVE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS , IDEAS OR VISIONS FOR THIS?

>> WE HAVE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT GARAGES FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE ON THE ARCHITECTURE SIDE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCREEN, IT IS THE PROPERTY OF VICARS WITH A PITCH POINT HERE THAT IS JUST OVER THE 75 FEET. . THE EXISTING PINCH POINT IN ORDER TO GET CARS IN AND ACCESS, THE WIDTH OF THE GARAGE AND WHAT THEY SAID. THAT IS THE PRECAST TO TRY TO MAKE THIS AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE USING A GARAGE. THE WIDTH IS THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF WIDTH THAT WE CAN GET AND GET THE FOUR PARKING SPACES. WE WOULD BASICALLY CUT IN HALF TO MAKE IT SMALLER FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. THEN, YOU LOSE ALL CIRCULATION. WHEN YOU GO FROM FOUR PARKING SPACES TO TWO, YOU LOSE EVERYTHING FROM A CIRCULATION STANDPOINT. THEY ARE ALL DEAD ENDS. IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED. THIS PARKING GARAGE IS A TOTAL OF 84 PARKING SPACES , SO IT WOULD BE ALONG THE LINES OF 40 IF WE WERE TRYING TO PINCH DOWN ANY SMALLER.

>> THERE IS NO OTHER PHYSICAL LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY WHERE

THIS COULD GO? THIS IS IT? >> THIS IS IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT YOU HAVE A COMPROMISE THAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING WITH SAWGRASS WITH THREE BULLET POINTS. ARE THOSE THREE BULLET POINTS SUPPOSED TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE CONDITIONS FOR THE MOD ?

>> YES, PLEASE. >> WE WILL DO THAT.

>> WE WILL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE? SEEING NONE. WE ARE BACK INTO THE

AGENCY. SPIEGEL? >> ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF.

THIS IS FLOOD ZONE I THINK, SO FINISHED MORE ELEVATION AND HOW MUCH HIRED TO DO YOU HAVE TO GO? IT IS OCCURRING TO ME.

>> I DO NOT KNOW OFFHAND, BUT THEY HAVE TO MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARDS. I'M NOT SURE THAT IT WILL AFFECT THE OVERALL HEIGHT.

>> ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR GROWTH AND MANAGEMENT. THE ANSWER FOR THAT WOULD BE ONE FOOT FOR A HABITABLE SPACE . A PARKING GARAGE IS NOT HABITABLE , SO THAT CAN BE ANY ELEVATION PAGE

SO CHOOSE. >> THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER.

>> MATOVINA. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MINOR MODIFICATION 2025-07 BIGGERS LANDING SKU SAWGRASS PARKING GARAGE AND SUBJECT TO NINE CONDITIONS AND SIX PROVIDED WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE OTHER SIX AS INCLUDED IN THE APPLICANT'S TESTIMONY TODAY AND

THE LETTER ON THE A . >> MOTION TO APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND GRADE ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ON TO ITEM TWO.

[2. REZ 2025-01 Arapaho Avenue Townhomes. A request to rezone approximately 2 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Residential General (RG-2), located at 1540 Arapaho Avenue.]

ANY X PARTAKE? >> I DID HAVE A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH WHITE HOUSE AND EXCHANGED SOME EMAILS THAT I ALSO DID A SITE VISIT AND I CALLED SAINT AUGUSTINE AND I DID

NOT HEAR FROM THEM. >> LABANOWSKI?

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>> I DID A SITE VISIT AND HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION .

>> I DID A SITE VISIT, AS WELL. I'M FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA AND THEY WANTED TO DRIVE DOWN AND SEE IT FOR MYSELF CLOSE UP AND I DID, THEN I ALSO SPOKE WITH ABOUT THIS AND HE HAD A COUPLE CONCERNS RELATED TO TRAFFIC ON U.S. ONE AND THE AE

FLOOD ZONE OF THE PROPERTY. >> MATOVINA.

>> I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR. WHITEHOUSE ABOUT THE MERITS OF

THIS PROPOSAL. >> THE FLOOR IS YOURS, MR.

WHITEHOUSE. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND AGENCY MEMBERS. JAMES WHITEHOUSE ST. JOHN'S LAW GROUP . I AM HERE FIRST-RATE REZONING OF 2025-01 TO REQUEST FOR A REASONABLE ZONING IN THIS MIXED-USE DISTRICT AS DESIGNATED BY THE COUNTY FOR MANY YEARS. THE LOCATION , AS HILSENBECK REFERRED TO, IT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE TARGET SHOPPING CENTER AND PARKING . IN FACT, THE AREA BACK HERE, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, IT IS THE SHIPYARDS WITH ENCLOSED STORAGE AND THIS HAS BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AND THIS IS THE PROPERTY. AGAIN, THIS HAS HAD SEVERAL OWNERS , BUT IF YOU HAVE BEEN BACK THERE, YOU SEE THAT THEY BUILT APARTMENTS APPROXIMATELY BETWEEN 2070 OR 300 UNITS BUILT AND ABOUTTO GO ONLINE IN BETWEEN HERE. IT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR TOWNHOMES AND MULTI FAMILY AND IN THIS AREA IT IS BACK HERE AND PREFER 55 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES ON AND ALL OF THESE ISSUES AND I WILL TALK TO THEM -- TALK TO YOU ABOUT THEM LATER, BUT SOME ISSUES FOR TRANSPORTATION HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED BY THE CITY, BECAUSE THE CITY HAS ANNEXED PROPERTIES, AS WELL AS TARGET . THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT 1540 ARAPAHO OUTLINED IN BLUE HERE . AS I TALKED ABOUT THE PROPERTY LOCATED ADJACENT AS OUTLINED IN RED. IT COMES ALL THE WAY ACROSS ARAPAHO AND THIS IS THE RETENTION POND . IT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTY'S MIXED-USE . YOU CAN SEE SEVERAL OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT WERE DEVELOPED UNDER THE MIXED-USE . THIS APPLICATION WILL ALLOW FOR APPROVAL AND REMOVAL OF THE MOBILE HOME AND ON REHAB OF THE MIXED-USE PROPERTY, WHICH YOU SAW MIGHT HAVE SOME BOATS, AS WELL AS OTHER VESSELS THERE ON AND OTHER STUFF STORED THERE OVER THE YEARS. AGAIN, WE ARE SURROUNDED BY THE CITY IN THIS MIXED-USE COMMERCIAL MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. YOU COULD SEE IT IN GRAY AND IT IS ALL CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, THEN LIGHTER GRAY, YOU CAN SEE THE AREAS IN THE COUNTY UP ALONG U.S. ONE. THIS IS THE COUNTY DESIGNATION OF MIXED-USE DISTRICT AND THIS HAS BEEN MIXED-USE DISTRICT IN THIS AREA SINCE WE ESTABLISHED OUR PLAN. THIS AREA NOW HAS BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY BACK HERE , BUT YOU CAN SEE IT WAS MIXED-USE DISTRICT PRIOR TO BEING ANNEXED IN THE CITY. AS FOR ZONING, YOU CAN SEE THE VARIOUS TYPES OF ZONING ALONG U.S. ONE , MOSTLY COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND MIXED-USE DISTRICT. THIS PROPERTY HERE HAS NOT BEEN -- IT HAS BEEN O.R. AND PROPERTY BACK HERE ARE NOW PREVIOUSLY IN PUD, AS I SAID FOR MULTI FAMILY AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT . AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE IN MIXED-USE DISTRICT, ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL USES ALONG HERE, THEN YOU CAN SEE THE PEAK STUFF THAT WAS IN MIXED-USE. LIKE I SAID, THIS HAS BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY NOW. AS A PROJECT OVERVIEW, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR REZONING OF THE MIXED-USE PROPERTY, WHICH IS ADJACENT FROM O.R. TO RG TO TO ALLOW FOR THE TOWNHOME UNITS AND THE REQUEST FOR REASONABLE ZONING AND JUSTIFICATION AS OUTLINED IN THE APPLICATION AS YOU CAN SEE. IT IS IN DIRECT PROXIMITY TO OUR MIXED-USE CORRIDOR AND IN THE MIXED-USE DISTRICT. THIS PROVIDES AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE REHABILITATION OF THIS PROPERTY AND UPDATING IT FOR APPROXIMATELY 10 TO 12 TOWNHOME UNITS . AS I SAID, IT'S A STRAIGHT REZONING, BUT THAT'S WHAT CAN FIT ON THE PROPERTY AND YOU WILL SEE AS I SHOW YOU WHAT THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT DOING HERE. UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS APPLICATION FULFILLS THE MIXTURE OF USES WITHIN THE DISTRICT AS PROMOTED BY THE COMP PLAN IN A 19 AND IT TALKS ABOUT A MIXTURE OF USES . AS I SHOWED

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YOU FROM THE DIAGRAMS, IT ALLOWS FOR THE MIXED REVIEWS, BECAUSE OF THE MAJORITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS DISTRICT IS COMMERCIAL. THIS UPDATED USE OF THE PROPERTY WILL ALLOW THE OWNER TO PROVIDE USES WITHIN THIS MIXTURES DISTRICT AND CONFERENCE OF PLAN. AGAIN, UNDER A ONE 311. VISAS FOR PARSED AS PART OF TWO RG-2 CONSISTENT WITH USES AND DESIGNATIONS OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND DIVISION OF THE ST. JOHN'S CONFERENCE OF PLAN. THESE COMPLEMENTARY AND COMPATIBLE USES WILL GRANT ADDITIONS TO THIS MIXED-USE DISTRICT OF OUR COUNTY AND HELP TO PROVIDE A MIXTURE OF USES IN THE DISTRICT AS SPECIFICALLY ADVOCATED BY A19, AS I JUST SHOWED. THIS PROJECT FITS VERY WELL INTO THE AREA AS AN INFILL PROJECT AND A BRILLIANT ADDITION TO THIS MIXED-USE DISTRICT. AGAIN, AS AN OVERVIEW, THIS REQUEST IS IN EXISTING MIXED-USE DISTRICT AND SANDWICHED BETWEEN THE RECENTLY ANNEXED MIXED-USE PROPERTIES ALONG THE RIVER AND THE CITY AND THE MIXED USE DISTRICT AND DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE COMMERCIAL TARGET . IT IS PROPOSED INTO THE AREA , WHICH WILL BE ALLOWED UNDER RG-2, WHICH IS THE ZONING THEY ARE ASKING FOR. AS DEPICTED, THE APPROVAL WILL ALLOW THE REHABILITATION OF THE PROPERTY AS DISCUSSED. WE HAVE ALSO GONE OVER A NUMBER OF ISSUES ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF, WHICH REALLY ARE NOT APPLICABLE FOR STRAIGHT REZONING, BUT THE REASON WHY THE APPLICANT WANTED TO GET SOME ENGINEERING DONE , IN FACT A LOT MORE THAN USUAL ON A STRAIGHT REZONING WAS TO SHOW YOU THEIR INTENT OF WHAT CAN FIT ON THE PROPERTY AND HOW IT IS SPECIFICALLY LIMITED BY THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT TO BE ABLE TO DO THE TOWNHOME USE. ACCORDINGLY, REQUESTING REZONING FROM O.R. TO RG-2 TO ALLOW THE COMPATIBLE USE FOR PLANNING AND ZONING DIVISIONS THAT ROUTED THE REQUEST TO ALL APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENTS AND THERE ARE NO OPEN COMMENTS AND WE TALKED TO TECHNICAL REVIEW ABOUT SOME ENGINEERING ISSUES ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND GOING THROUGH THOSE. THEY WILL ALL BE ADDRESSED IN SITE PLAN REVIEW IN THE COUNTY WHEN THEY SUBMIT THEIR, WHICH REALLY IS ADDRESSED IN STRAIGHT REZONING, BUT AS I SAID, I WANTED TO RESENT THAT YOU AND THEY DID SHOW YOU WHAT THEY WERE PLANNING TO DO ON THIS PROPERTY AND HOW THE PROPERTY IS AFFECTED. ALSO, YOU SEE ANALYSIS AS TO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT AND TRANSPORTATION REVIEW DID AN ANALYSIS BUT AGAIN, STRAIGHT REZONING, SO THEY DID IT FOR YOUR REVIEW, SO YOU KNOW SORT OF WHAT 10 TO 12 TOWNHOME UNIT AFFECT MIGHT HAVE ON THE AREA.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ANALYSIS FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OR TRANSPORTATION ABOUT WHAT THOSE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS ARE BY THE CITY. I DID HAVE DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH THOSE, BECAUSE I WAS INVOLVED WITH THE SHIPYARD APPROVALS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. HE SAW THAT THERE IS PRELIMINARY APPROVAL FOR UTILITIES AND AN ELBOW FOR THE SITE ITSELF. HE SAW THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW TALKING ABOUT SOILS ON PROPERTY AND THERE MAY BE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, SO YOU SEE THE DEVELOPMENT AND PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WHICH I WILL SHOW YOU.

IT'S UP IN THE AREA AND YOU HAVE THE BUFFER AND LOOSE SOILS ARE ITSELF. YOU CAN SEE HER IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT TALKS ABOUT THE WETLAND LINE AND IT'S A HIGH AND DRY PIECE OF PROPERTY ITSELF. AGAIN, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE LOOKED AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT, BUT THERE'S ONLY A SMALL AREA OF POINT ON THE WESTERN END OF THE PROPERTY AND THEY ARE PROPOSING THE BUFFER ALONG THERE WITH THE SOFT SAND, AS I SAID WITH NO PROTECTED SPECIES . AS YOU SAW FROM THE STAFF REPORT, THERE IS AN OVERVIEW AND YOU CAN SEE HOW DRY THE PROPERTY IS WITH EVEN AREAS HERE THAT TECHNICALLY THERE IS A WETLAND AND THEY SAY THERE ARE WETLANDS FROM THE AREA WHEN YOU GO ON SITE , WHICH DON'T REALLY LOOK WET, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN FOUND TO BE, SO WE RESPECT THAT AND WE WILL MEET ALL REGULATIONS REQUIRED ABOUT THAT. IN SUMMARY, IT IS SURROUNDED BY CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE MIXED-USE COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT DESIGNATED BY THE COUNTY AS A MIXED-USE DISTRICT FOR MANY YEARS. THERE HAS BEEN CORRESPONDENCE OF PHONE CALLS REGARDING THIS REQUEST AND WE SEND OUT ALL OF THE APPROPRIATE NOTICES AND STAFF OFFERS FOUR FINDINGS TO SUPPORT THE MOTION AND THIS REQUEST WILL ALLOW REZONING FOR LIMITED TONE USE WITHIN THE MIXED-USE DISTRICT, SO THEY ARE HERE TO ASK AND I'M HERE TO ASK FOR THE BOARDS REASONABLE REVIEW AND RECOGNITION FOR APPROVAL TO THE COMMISSION FOR THIS REZONING AND AS I SAID WITHIN THE PACKET, YOU WILL SEE THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND FOUR FINDINGS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FROM YOUR STAFF AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS . THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

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>> DR. HILSENBECK? >> JAMES, I AGREE . THE PROPERTY HAS SEEN BETTER DAYS. THE STRUCTURES ON IT , IT ALMOST LOOKED LIKE A SITE BUILT STRUCTURE AND OVERALL MOBILE HOME AS WELL AS BUILDINGS. IN YOUR SUBMITTAL IN OUR PACKET, THERE ARE TWO SITE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND I KNOW IT'S A REZONING REQUEST AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO SUBMIT SITE PLAN , BUT SINCE YOU DID , THE SITE PLAN AND THE TEXT IS ALL TALKING ABOUT 10 TOWNHOMES. TODAY, YOU INTRODUCED 10 TO 12, BUT WHAT YOU ARE SEEKING IS A FOOT ALLOW UP TO 26. ARE YOU WILLING TO PUT

A LIMITATION ON THE TOWNHOMES? >> I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AND I FIGURED YOU WOULD ASK THAT QUESTION AND MAYBE SOME OF THE MEMBERS WHAT. HE'S PERFECTLY WILLING TO. BECAUSE IT'S A STRAIGHT REZONING AND NOT REALLY THE PRACTICE TO PUT THAT IN YOUR APPLICATION GOING FORWARD, OBVIOUSLY, HE'S WILLING TO LIMIT IT. I THINK PROBABLY AN APPROPRIATE WAY I WOULD ASK THE BOARD TO SAY IS MAYBE HALF OF THE 26 13 . IT WILL MOST LIKELY BE 10, BUT IF THEY CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY WHEN THEY MANEUVER IT AROUND WITH THE PRODUCT ITSELF, BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW THE TOWNHOMES ARE, THEY ARE DEVELOPED IN A WAY WHERE THERE IS A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THEM WITH CERTAIN WIT AND ET CETERA, WHICH WE WILL NEED ALL OF THE COUNTY I THINK PROBABLY AN APPROPRIATE LIMITATION WOULD BE AROUND 13 OR 14 AND MAYBE THE BEST, BECAUSE 26 ARE ALLOWED, WHICH IS ALL UP AND THEY CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THAT IF THEY WANTED TO . AGAIN, HE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH SAYING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR 13 OR 14 AND I IS A MAXIMUM, IT WILL PROBABLY BE 10.

>> PROBABLY GOING TO BE 10. >> BECAUSE IT IS A DEVELOPING PRODUCT AS A STRAIGHT REZONING, THIS ONE HERE WAS ONE WHERE THEY WERE SEEING , CAN WE DO 14? REALLY, IT DOESN'T WORK. IT'S REALLY IN THE 10 TO 12 RANGE, WHICH IS WHY I SAID THAT WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE RECOMMENDING FORWARDD LIMITATION OF HALF OF WHAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY GO , WHICH IS MAYBE

13 OR 14. >> THE ONE YOU SHOWED WITH MUCH LARGER NUMBER , THAT IS NOT IN OUR PACKET.

>> AGAIN, IF YOU SEE, I HAVE THIS AT THE END OF THAT'S WHY I REALLY DIDN'T GO INTO IT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN REALLY BASE -- IT DOESN'T COME AS PART OF YOUR APPROVAL, BUT THAT'S WHY HE'S PERFECTLY OPEN TO SAY -- WE JUST WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS SITUATION.

YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO FIT 26 BUT I GUESS YOU CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO 26 IF YOU DID SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO THAT. IF YOU PUT A RECOMMENDATION FOR LIMITATION AND THE COMMISSION MAKES THE DECISION, BUT TO US, WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH YOU SAYING THAT IF YOU THINK 13 IS REASONABLE, THEN THAT'S REASONABLE TO US, BECAUSE THAT'S HALF OF WHAT HE COULD DO IN THE MIXED-USE DISTRICT.

>> I THINK IT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT TO GET THE HOLDING PONDS THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE REQUIRED IN THE FIRE TRUCK TURNAROUND THAT YOU HAD AND ALL OF THAT IF YOU UP IT MUCH MORE . I'M GLAD YOU HAVE THIS MAP UP, BECAUSE THIS ONE IS SHOWING A 50 FOOT BUFFER, WHICH YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT FROM THE WETLAND. THEN, THE OTHER SITE PLAN WE SAW , IT SHOWED 25 FOOT BUFFER AND SEVERAL SPOTS , 15 FEET . THAT WAS IN OUR MATERIALS AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN VERIFY THAT.

>> ONCE AGAIN, THESE ARE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLANS. WE ARE GOING TO MEET ALL COUNTY CODES. IF THERE'S SOME REASON IT CAN'T BE MET AFTER WE GET A STRAIGHT REZONING, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU. THE FACT IS THAT THE INTENTION IS TO MEET THOSE. AS YOU SEE IN -- I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC RECOLLECTION OF HOW MANY DIFFERENT ITERATIONS THERE HAS BEEN .

>> IS ON PAGE 28 OF OUR APPLICATION.

>> THAT'S NOT THE INTENT. IT'S TO HAVE THE BUFFER AS YOU SEE HERE. THAT IS WHAT'S REQUIRED UNDER THE CODE, SO WE WILL MEET

THAT. >> OKAY, WELL --.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT IT AS A CONDITION, BECAUSE IT'S

REQUIRED. >> A SITE PLAN YOU PUT IN SHOWED A 25 AND AT LEAST TWO PLACES ARE MORE 15 FEET. THAT WAS CONCERNING, BECAUSE THIS IS A DIRECT WATERWAY FLOW WAY INTO THE SAN SEBASTIAN RIVER , THEREFORE INTO THE MATANZAS

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RIVER. I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUFFER.

>> WILL BE THERE AND YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD STAFF WHEN THEY REVIEW SITE PLANS TO ENSURE THAT WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.

>> A COUPLE OTHER THINGS , YOU MENTIONED THE SEAWALL OR

WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT . >> YES, SIR.

>> HAVE YOU HEARD OF ARE CONSIDERED A LIVING SHORELINE?

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE? >> SORT OF. YOU KNOW, HAVE WE CONSIDERED IT QUICK SEE WHEN WE ARE DOING THE SITE PLAN, WE WILL CONSIDER WHATEVER IS APPROPRIATE. AS WE CLEARLY POINTED OUT, WE WILL DO THE 50 FOOT BUFFER AND UNDER THE CODE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE A RETAINING WALL OR WHAT'S CALLED -- NOT A SEAWALL A BULKHEAD . YOU CAN HAVE IT IN THE DIFFERENCE THAT THE DESCRIPTION AND DEFINITION IS THE FACT THAT ON THE WETLAND LINE OR IN THE WETLANDS BUT THE BUCKET, IT'S RETAINING AND IF IT'S NOT, IT USED TO BE UNDER OUR CODE AND UNDER COMMON PRACTICE THAT YOU WOULD PUT YOUR RETAINING WALL ON THIS SIDE OF THE WETLAND LINE OR WHATEVER . THE PURPOSE OF READ OUR CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TO PROTECT THE WETLANDS, SO THINGS DON'T GO INTO THE WETLANDS. IT'S AN ACCEPTED

PRACTICE . >> DEFINITELY.

>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT'S THE INTENTION JUST IN THAT AREA , BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE GOOD SOIL IS UP ON THE TOP. THE BUFFER WILL FULLY PROTECT ON THE BOTTOM SECTION AND YOU CAN SEE THAT FROM THE ENVIRONMENT TO REPORT . AS FAR AS THE LIVING SHORELINE, I DON'T KNOW. THEY COULD CONSIDER THAT AND I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR STRAIGHT REZONING, BUT I WILL BRING IT

BACK. >> YOU ARE PROBABLY RIGHT. IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR STRAIGHT REZONING, BUT THIS IS A GREAT SPOT TO HAVE A LIVING SHORELINE, BECAUSE IT'S A VERY LOW ENERGY AND YOU ARE NOT GETTING ANY DIRECT WAVE ACTION AND PEOPLE AREN'T GOING UP AND DOWN SPEEDING THROUGH THEIR WITH BOATS CREATING LAKES AND SO FORTH. A LIVING SHORELINE COULD INCLUDE OYSTER BED OR AN OYSTER REEF, SO YOU HAVE THAT. YOU CAN HAVE MANGROVES AS PART OF THAT AND THEY CAN BE A HYBRID WITH A BULKHEAD OR SEAWALL. IT IS MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY TYPE OF CONSTRUCT AND IT ADDS A LOT TO THE ECOLOGY OF THE AREA . THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT SAYS THAT THERE WAS NONE OF THE FEDERALLY LISTED SPECIES ON THERE. NOW, I HAVE SEEN FOR MEETING OVER AT THE OLD CREEKSIDE RESTAURANT RIGHT ACROSS THE CREEK FROM IT, NOW

IT'S CALLED THE BOATHOUSE . >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> IT WILL PROBABLY BE THERE TOMORROW NIGHT ACTUALLY. I HAVE SEEN WHAT STORKS FEEDING IN THERE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.

>> ALLOTS A LOT OF RECORDS, TOO. >> A LIVING SHORELINE MIGHT HELP PRESERVE AND CREATE , MAINTAIN, HABITAT FOR A FEDERALLY ENDANGERED SPECIES LIKE WOOD STORKS. IS BRINGING THAT UP. YOU MENTIONED THAT THE CITY MIGHT BE PLANNING SOME UPGRADES TO

ARAPAHOE? >> YES, ON THE ARAPAHO THAT WRAPS BEHIND TARGET , SO THE MAIN ACCESS HAS ALWAYS BEEN UP BY THE DUNKIN' DONUTS . WHATEVER THE STATION IS THERE, THERE IS GOING TO BE AN INTERSECTION. THERE WILL BE A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION AND I TALKED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING DIRECTOR AND I CAN REPRESENT TO YOU THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT IT WILL BE TRIGGERED BY THE END OF THE YEAR OR BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR TO GO IN, BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING READY TO GO ONLINE AND ARE ALMOST FINISHED. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TOWNHOMES AND OTHER MULTIFAMILY USES AND IN THE IN BETWEEN AREA , THEN THE PROPERTY THAT IS NOW OWNED BY THE DEVELOPING IT, BUT ON THE SOUTH END HERE IS APPROXIMATELY 55 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. THE DIRECTION OF THE TRAFFIC IS SUPPOSED TO GO THE OTHER DIRECTION AND THERE WILL BE A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION. AS WE KNOW, THERE'S AN INTERSECTION THE BACK WAY OUT OF TARGET THE PEOPLE TAKE, AS WELL. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THEY HAVE TO BRING IT UP TO STANDARDS AND I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT SPECIFICATIONS AND THE CITY DIDN'T PROVIDE THAT TO ME , BUT THE STAFF TRIED TO CONTACT THE CITY AND DIDN'T GET ANY DISCUSSION BACK FROM THE CITY, BUT I DID WANT TO BRING THOSE NUMBERS UP, BECAUSE THERE'S NO REFERENCE AT ALL IN THE STAFF REPORT AND ACKNOWLEDGED THAT AND WANTED TO

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LET YOU KNOW. >> IT DOES NEED AN UPGRADE, ABSOLUTELY. AS YOU SAID, PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT OF THE BACK EXIT AND SOMEONE NEARLY RAN INTO ME. I HAVE BEEN RAN INTO, YES, SIR.

>> AND I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. >> CONTINUING WITH WHAT HILSENBECK WAS SAYING, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ARAPAHO. THEY ARE SITTING THERE AND IT'S VERY NARROW. THAT IS THE CITY

PROPERTY IN THAT SECTION . >> LET ME GO BACK TO MY MAP. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE FULLY UP-TO-DATE, BUT THESE ARE THE CITY LIMITS. THESE ARE ALL CITIBANK HERE AND THIS IS WHERE THOSE APARTMENTS ARE AND NOW BEING BUILT THERE WILL BE A TOWN CENTER OR SOMETHING DOWN HERE AND THERE WILL BE MORE TOWNHOMES OR MULTI FAMILY IN THE AREA, THEN 55 SINGLE-FAMILY APPROVED TO GO BACK HERE . THERE IS A NUMBER OF TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE ALONG ARAPAHO, AS WELL , AS I WAS TALKING TO HILSENBECK ABOUT. THIS IS WHERE THE DUNKIN' DONUTS IS AND THE GAS STATION. THERE WILL BE A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION HERE AND ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS ARE WORKED OUT WITH THE FEDS AND THE STATE ON THAT. AS I SAID, THERE'S NO EXACT TIME, BUT THE PLANNING DIRECTOR THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE TRIGGERED BY THE END OF THE YEAR, THEN IT WOULD START DEVELOPING OF THAT, WHICH AGAIN IS A HUGE HELP AND NOW YOU STILL HAVE THE SHIPYARDS DOWN HERE AND ALMOST 300 APARTMENTS GOING IN AND A BUNCH OF THINGS HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE SECTION , IF THERE ARE ANY IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED, BECAUSE WE DID A PRELIMINARY REVIEW, BECAUSE ONCE WE COME IN WITH THE SITE PLAN, WE DO A FULL TRANSPORTATION OF YOU AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING LEFT TO DO, OBVIOUSLY WE WILL DO THAT, AS WELL.

>> THAT IS THE AREA I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT. I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS THE CITY AND THE LIGHT GRAY IS ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THAT IS WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT THAT.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WHAT TREES WILL BE SAVED?

>> THAT'S A SITE PLAN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO GO OUT THERE, BUT YOU HAVE SEEN SOME ALONG ARAPAHO, BUT SOME ARE NOT REALLY BIG TREES ALONG ARAPAHO, BUT ALONG THE OUTSKIRTS THERE MIGHT BE SOME. THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY IS PRETTY CLEAR.

IF YOU HAVE A PICTURE , BUT OUT OF THE CAN HAVE IT ON THE

PROPERTY. >> THERE ARE PINES THAT ARE REALLY LARGE AND CLOSER TO ARAPAHO.

>> THIS IS ON ARAPAHO AND THIS IS THE FRONT OF IT, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT CLEARED OUT IN THE MIDDLE, THEN OF THE AREA IS THE PART WHERE THE BUFFER IS AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE RETAINED TO WHATEVER EXTENT IS REQUIRED. I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE SOME BACK IN THIS AREA MAYBE. OBVIOUSLY, I THINK IF YOU SEE WITHIN THE ENVIRONMENTS REPORT, THERE IS DISCUSSION OF WHATEVER TREES THERE ARE, THEN IF THEY HAVE TO BE RETAINED, THEY WILL BE RETAINED UNDER THE CODE. IF IT'S ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T MEET THE REGULATIONS OF UNDER THE COUNTY COURT, WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU AND TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN. I DON'T THINK THE INTENT IS TO TAKE OUT ANY TREES OR CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS. IF THERE IS, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK THE SITE PLAN OTHER THAN DURING THE ENGINEERING ON THE

MEASUREMENTS OF THE PROPERTY. >> THE SITE PLAN YOU HAD UP

THERE, THEY HAD 10 UNITS? >> YES, SIR.

>> NOT 13 , BUT HALF OF WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT, I WOULD LOVE TO

SEE IT STAY AT ALL POSSIBLE. >> YES, SIR.

>> I WANTED TO ASK STAFF IN THE RG-2, WHAT IS THE MINIMUM LOT

SIZE FOR TOWNHOMES? >> GIVE ME ONE MOMENT TO PULL THAT UP. WE DISCUSSED THAT IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT WILL TRIGGER A NON-ZONING VARIANCE TO CIRCUMVENT THOSE SIZES OR IT MAY EXCUSE.

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S THE SIGN OF THE TOWNHOME, BUT THE WITH.

IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DON'T WANT 10 DIFFERENT -- IF WE HAD 10 DIFFERENT DRIVEWAYS COME YOU DON'T WANT TO. YOU WANT TO HAVE TO DRIVE AS THEY SHOW AND THAT'S NOT APPROVED, BECAUSE THE SITE PLAN HASN'T BEEN REMOVED. ONE DRIVER TWO DRIVES COMING IN AND WHEN YOU LAY OUT THE SITE AND THE SITE PLAN, THE LOT WOULD IN THE CODE IS 75 FOOT LOT WITH FOR MULTI FAMILY , SO

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WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN MEET AND I GUESS YOU CAN DRAW FUNNY SHAPES OR THE WAY THE LOTS ARE SHAPED , BUT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT FOR A NUMBER OF TIMES AND NOT JUST ON THIS PROJECT OR UNDER THE CODE, BUT A NUMBER OF NON-ZONING VARIANCES THAT HAVE COME IN FOR MULTI FAMILY WHERE THEY ALLOW THAT AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK FURTHER, WHETHER IT'S A NON-ZONING, BUT MINIMUM LOT AREA 6000 PUT I DON'T KNOW THE MINIMUM. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A MINIMUM SIZE .

>> I WILL CHECK BACK IN. 75 FOOT MINIMUM LOT WITH WHAT AND 600 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT AREA. IT DOESN'T CONTEMPLATE A TOWNHOME LOT PER SE. YOU OFTEN SEE A PUD COME IN FOR SITUATIONS . THAT BEING SAID, THROUGH A PROCEDURE, YOU CAN GET THE RELIEF TO BUILD LIKE THAT AND I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE RELIEF TO REQUEST.

CURRENTLY, THE CODE IS A LITTLE ON THE OUTDATED SIDE, SO IT DOESN'T CONTEMPLATE ALL OF THOSE DEVELOPING PATTERNS.

>> THANK YOU. >> SPIEGEL?

>> ALWAYS SOMETHING TO LEARN. I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE DR.

HILSENBECK 'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE BULKHEAD AND MAKING THE THING . IT COULD BE MONEY-SAVING IF IT IS SUSTAINABLE. THAT IS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT JEN HAD. IT'S NOT AN ACTIVE WATERWAY, BUT KIND OF A SLEW AND IT'S A WET SANDY AREA, BUT THAT WOULD BE NICE. I HAD THE CONCERN, BUT WHEN I WENT IN AND WALKED AROUND AND THE HUGE BULKHEAD RIGHT AROUND THE 55 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES WILL GO BUT THAT'S ALL SURROUNDED. YOU ARE EVEN FURTHER DOWNSTREAM THAN THAT IF YOU EVEN CAN CALL THAT A STREAM. I DID HAVE A QUESTION ON THE MAP THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT THE 17TH OR 18TH SLIDE. YOU SHOW AN AREA OF WETLAND TREES TOWARDS THE FRONT, THEN YOU'VE GOT A BULKHEAD ON THE NEXT PAGE , AT LEAST IN OUR APPLICATION. IT'S KIND OF CUTTING INTO THAT. THERE'S ONLY A TINY SLIVER OF WETLAND IMPACTS

SHOWING ON THIS MAP . >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> IT CONSIDERS THAT NUMBER AND THE OTHER SOILS MAP, AS WELL. I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS ONE LITTLE BLUE BIT AND THE FRONT PART WAS

MISSING . >> I THINK THAT'S IT.

>> I LIKE THE 10 NUMBER, BUT JUST A RECOMMENDATION. AS FAR AS THE LOT WITH, I UNDERSTAND THAT. THE BUFFER WILL BE WILL BE AS DISTURBED AS POSSIBLE AND BE AS NATURAL AS YOU CAN LEAVE IT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> TWO COLLEAGUES LIKE THAT TOWNHOME NUMBER AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I DO, TOO. PARTICULARLY BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC ON U.S. 1 AND IT'S ALREADY DEFICIENT RIGHT THERE IN THAT SEGMENT. I'M SURE THAT YOU TRY THAT STRETCH BETWEEN 312 AND TARGET . THAT IS REALLY A CONGESTED PART OF U.S. 1. THE OTHER HOMES GOING IN THERE, SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOMES , THEY ARE GOING TO OVERWHELM THE AREA AND TRAFFIC WILL BE MUCH GREATER AND ANOTHER CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE IS APPROVING THIS. THAT IS A CONCERN WITH ALL OF THE TRAFFIC ON U.S. 1 RIGHT NOW AND IT'S ALREADY DEFICIENT. IT WILL BE A LOT MORE ADDED. THAT AND THE SECTION AND ONE OF THE WORST AREAS IN TOWN, IN MY OPINION.

>> I JUST DON'T KNOW -- THIS IS A LOT AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THIS BEING A LOT AND THAT THE CITY APPROVES AND THEY WILL HAVE IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED ALONG ARAPAHO, BUT OUT OF THE GETS A LOT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 10 AND 20 IS NOT A HUGE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC FOR THIS TO ELEMENT.

WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. IT WILL PROBABLY BE 10 AND I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THE GENTLEMANLY WAY BETWEEN 10 AND 12. I SAID 13, BECAUSE IT CUTS IT IN HALF. I THINK IT'S

REASONABLE TO GIVE 10 OR 12. >>

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>>> IT IS DEFICIENT NOW AND ONLY GETTING WORSE.

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>> I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL WITH 12. THANK YOU.

>> MR. LABANOWSKI. >> I AGREE WITH RECOMMENDATION

OF THE 12. >> MOTION?

>> KICKING AND SCREAMING I WILL AMEND TO PLACE DENSITY CAP AT THE AGREED-UPON APPROVED AMOUNT OF 12 UNITS.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK

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YOU MR. WHITE HOUSE. ITEM NUMBER THREE AND FOUR DOES ANYBODY HAVE X PARTAKE? MR. LABANOWSKI. MS. SPIEGEL.

>> I DID A SITE VISIT WITH A BRIEF PHONE CONVERSATION WITH

JAY ASH IS HIS NAME. >> ANYONE ELSE?

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>> MY NAME IS JAMES HAS I REPRESENT THE PROPERTY AND PARCELS AND OWNERS OF 140 STRATTON ROAD. I BELIEVE WE HAVE , THERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON STRATTON ROAD ACROSS CATTY CORNER FROM US IS THE PET ADOPTION AGENCY AND DOWN SOUTHWEST OR NORTHWEST WOULD BE THE TRANSFER STATION CURRENTLY THERE IN PLACE. IN MY PRESENTATION TRY TO KEEP IT SIMPLE. BASICALLY WE ARE SEEKING CONSIDERATION OF REZONING 1.8 PARCELS OF LAND FROM REZONING TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE .

CURRENTLY, IT IS BEING USED AS THAT TOY MILD-MANNERED CURRENT UTILIZATION A PARCEL STORAGE AREA FOR SOME PERSONAL BOATS OR PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, TRAILER VEHICLES THINGS LIKE THAT. NOT FREQUENTED OFTEN AT ALL. THE ONLY STRUCTURAL MAKERS WAS A PERMITTED BARN AND 30 BY FERDIE -- 40 AREN'T THERE. PERSONAL STORAGE AT THIS TIME PART BOATS TAKE FISHING GEAR PUT IT INSIDE, BUT THE FACT THAT IT HAS A LOOK AND FEEL OF COMMERCIAL AND THIS BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION DURING PERMITTING PROCESSES. SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CARDS GOT IN FRONT OF THE HORSE AND IN FRONT OF THE COUNTY IN REGARDS TO THE BUILDING BEING BUILT AND PLACED.

WE DID THE PERMITTING, ONE WAS REQUESTED OF US AT THE TIME TO DO THIS AND REALLY WE ARE SEEKING TO BE MORE OR LESS STANDING BACK LOOKING TO BE COMPLIANT WITH WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING AS AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SAME INTENTIONS. I DON'T KNOW FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WHAT THE PLAN WOULD BE BUT THE BUSINESS IS SIMPLY USED IN A MILD MANNER. TO GUESS IF THERE'S ONE OR TWO VEHICLES PER DAY THAT COMES OUT OF THERE AND DROPS A PERSON OFF AT THEIR VEHICLE ANY GIVEN TIME FOR FIVE VEHICLES PARKED IN THE YARD PICK UP A TRAILER, THEY LEAVE THEY LOCK THE GATE AND GO. IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE DON'T ANY FACTOR ANYTHING THERE ARE CREATE NOISE THERE. WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS ON MANUFACTURING ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. I DO BELIEVE IN THE REPORT THERE ARE SOME THINGS AND AGAIN I NOTED IN THE SURROUNDING AREA WE UNDERSTAND WE ARE IN AN AREA AROUND HERE WITH ST.

JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT. NOT MANUFACTURING WE DON'T SEE NOISE INTRUSION OR LIGHT INTRUSION, WE DON'T SEE TRAFFIC INTRUSION. I KNOW CURRENTLY NOW THEY'RE DOING THE LIGHT AT BIG ISLAND AND STRATTON WEATHER AT THE PROPERTY OR NOT IS GREAT BECAUSE I SEE A LOT OF ACCIDENTS WITH THE BIG TRUCKS AND CARS AND MAJOR CONFUSION. SO, KUDOS TO THE COUNTY AND STATE AND WHOEVER FOR GETTING OUT OF THAT IN A WAY THAT WILL ELIMINATE SOME FUTURE INJURIES OR ACCIDENTS I JUST WITNESSED ONE TWO WEEKS AGO JAWS OF LIFE AND ALL THAT SO I THINK THE AREA HAS COME AND VERY LITTLE IN AND OUT TRAFFIC FROM WHAT WE FORESEE HOW WE ARE USING TODAY AND MOVING FORWARD AND KEEPING COMPLIANT WITH THE COUNTY. I THINK JUDY HAS WENT OUT AND DID A SITE VISIT.

HESITANT TO TAKE THE CALL I SAID MAYBE I SHOULD TAKE THIS ONE. I DID I WAS ON AN EMERGENCY TRIP TO ORLANDO FOR A JOB THAT I HAD.

WE HAVE A FEW PICTURES HERE OF THE OVERVIEW. ONE I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S IN THE PACKET OR NOT THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN SHOWS THE BUILDING CLOSER. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS THE SAME WE HAD A 20 FOOT VARIANCE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY 200 FEET WIDE AND 396 FOOT DEEP SO MY GUESS THAT BUILDING AS IT SUITS IS EIGHT FEET OF THE BOUNDARY LINE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. AND AGAIN WE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS IN REGARDS TO DID NOT THINK IT WAS ADVANTAGEOUS TO PUT A WELL AND SEPTIC TANK SITUATION

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SO WE TAPPED INTO THE UTILITIES THERE WENT THROUGH THE EXPENSE OF WATER AND SEWER TAPS, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. THE INTENTION OF WATER ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO WASH HER HANDS OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. AGAIN THERE'S A FEW LIMITATIONS THAT WERE EXPRESSED.

I KNOW GOING FROM RURAL OR WHATEVER TO COMMERCIAL SOUNDS PRETTY SEVERE BUT WHEN YOU READ SOME OF THE RULES AND WE MAKE CONCESSIONS IN REGARDS TO WHAT WE DON'T FORESEE EVER HAVING IT UTILIZED AS A MAJOR RETAIL CENTER WERE MANUFACTURING FACILITY. I AM A SMALL FISH IN A BIG POND , I RESPECT THE CAN, LOVE THE COUNTY, BEAUTIFUL AREA. THIS REMINDS ME OF THAT SO I AM CONSCIUS OF THE WETLANDS AND NATURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AVID OUTDOOR SPORTS SO REALLY LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET APPROVAL TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP OF THE BOARD TO USE IT AS WE ARE CURRENTLY USING AND JUDY LAID EYES ON IT. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT AND I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

>> WE HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. DR. HILSENBECK.

>> YOU STATED THE BAR AND THAT IS FANCY. I'M USED TO A OPEN

STRUCTURE. >>

>> A BARN WITH SOME ENCLOSED SIDES PERMITTED. I DID NOT SEE THAT AN APPLICATION MATERIAL. I MAY HAVE OVERLOOKED IT.

>> I HAVE SOME OF THE PERMITS AND ANOTHER FILE. PERMITTED AND THE WHOLE GAMUT. I THINK AGAIN I WAS TRYING TO GET PERMITS GOING.

MEETING AT THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT AND I SAT BACK AND SAW HOW DO WE GET THE CARD AND FROM THE HORSE THAT WAS NOT OUR INTENTION. I THINK THE COUNTY WITH GUIDANCE INITIALLY WERE NOT PREPARED TO GO THE COMMERCIAL ROUTE, A MORE INSURANCE PREMIUM TAXES BUT IF THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO TAKE 1.2 ACRES CONSIDERING THEIR ANIMAL SHELTER AND TRANSFER STATION DOWN THE ROAD IT'S NOT SOMETHING I'M LOOKING TO PUT IN FRONT OF SOME OF THESE OTHER

NICE PROPERTIES. >> CONCERNING THE MATERIALS AND VEHICLES, YOU MENTION BOATS. I AM WONDERING ABOUT ANY VEHICLES YOU HAVE, ANY PRECAUTIONS YOU ARE TAKING ABOUT SPILLING

PETROLEUM PRODUCTS? >> MY OBJECTIVE, I SAY WE, WHAT I HEARD BEFORE THEY EVEN HAD A FUEL TANK AT ONE TIME , THAT IS PULLED OFF THE SITE. WE USE FLEX FUEL CARDS BECAUSE THESE GUYS OPERATION OF APEX IS UNDERGROUND CABLING CONTRACTOR THE WORK IS NOT AT THAT SITE THE WORK IS IN MIAMI TAMPA ORLANDO FORT WALTON, THEY DROPPED THE TRUCK , TWO OR THREE GUYS GET IN THE VEHICLE, THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE MAY NEED TO PICK UP A UTILITY TRAILER OR EXCAVATOR OR WHATEVER. OTHER THAN MYSELF LATELY BEING THERE DOING PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS THAT'S MY GOAL. UNDERSTANDING THE VISUAL PART OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I AM ALMOST MILITANT IN MY OWN HOME AND THINGS I DO WANT TO LOOK NICE AND PRESENTABLE NOT SOMETHING IS NOT GOING TO BE LIT UP LIKE A WALMART PARKING LOT. MINIMAL SECURITY LIGHTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO IT STAYS LOCKED NOW, WE DON'T HAVE FENCING AROUND THE PERIMETER JUST TO THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT THE INTENTION IS TO PUT MINIMAL AND WHAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO ABOUT EMPLOYEES OF THE COMPANY, TO KEEP OUR STUFF ON OUR PROPERTY MORE THAN TRYING TO KEEP OTHERS. FENCES MAKE FRIENDS MOST OF THE TIME SO WE WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING. BASICALLY THE BIGGEST THING IS THE FIBER COMPANY YOU CAN SEE THE BIGGER SPOOLS OF FIBER AND IF SOMEONE DOES NOT SEE FENCER PROPERTY LINE I WAS OUT WITH THE CONDUIT FIVE FOOT OVER THE PROPERTY LINE. ME TAKING ON THE ROLE AS A FRIEND OF THIS ORGANIZATION LET'S CONTINUE OUR

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PART AND KEEP IT CLEAN KEEP IT RESPECTABLE AND LOOK LIKE A VALID LOW IMPACT VALID BUSINESS.

>> APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU. >> MISS SPIEGEL.

>> OKAY THANK YOU. I DID GO OUT THERE. THE BIG SPOOLS I REMEMBER FROM THE 70S , WE HAD THE MOST TABLES IN THE APARTMENT. A LITTLE DIFFERENT NOW FROM THE WOODEN ONES AND I DID NOTICE THE BOATS. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THE PURPOSE OF THIS BUSINESS. I AM A STICKLER FOR THE CODE SO I WANT TO GET ON THE RECORD BECAUSE ACCORDING TO CODE YOU CHECK OFF ALMOST EVERY BOX WHERE WE SHOULD NOT APPROVE THIS ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ONE. AS YOU SAID ACROSS THE STREET FROM A ANIMAL SHELTER AND NEXT-DOOR TRANSFER STATION SURROUNDED BY CONSERVATION LAND THAT'S NEVER GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. THE CLOSEST DEVELOPMENT WAS MAYBE A COUPLE MILES IN EITHER DIRECTION WITH THAT KIND OF ZONING. I THINK THIS IS A MINIMAL IMPACT. I APPRECIATE THE CONDITIONS YOU PLACED ON PAGE 7 THAT IT WILL ONLY BE USED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS, GENERAL BUSINESS, HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL A STORAGE YARD EQUIPMENT AND MACHINERY AND HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL. THOSE WERE THE CONSULTANTS YOU AGREED TO GOING FORWARD TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. SO I THINK YOU. FOR THAT I APPRECIATE YOUR TAPPED IN TO THE AVAILABLE UTILITIES AND DID NOT DIG A WELL

AND SEPTIC. >> A 12 MONTH PROCESS.

>> I BET IT WAS. >> I COULD SEE WHY SOMEBODY WOULD BE TEMPTED TO DO THE OUTLAW WAY. THE COST IS THE

COST. >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR INTEGRITY

AND COMING BEFORE US. >> MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS NUMBER THREE AND FOUR? BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR MOTION. YES MISS SPIEGEL. THAT'S

CORRECT ONE AT A TIME. >> ITEM 3, FIRST. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF COMP PLAN AMENDMENT SMALL-SCALE 202 FIVE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF COMP PLAN AMENDMENT SMALL-SCALE 2025-01 BASED UPON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED STAFF REPORT.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S REGISTER TO VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES. MOTION FOR NUMBER FOUR.

>> ITEM NUMBER FOUR. MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL REZONING 2025-03 BASED UPON FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONDITIONS DO I HAVE TO SAY THAT? AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND SECOND. LET'S REGISTER. THAT

[5. COMPAMD 2024-06 2023 North Florida Regional Water Supply Plan - Adoption. A Comprehensive Plan text amendment incorporating updates to s. F.S., issued under the 2023 North Florida Regional Water Supply Plan (NFRWSP). The NFRWSP requires the County to adopt an updated Water Supply Facilities Work Plan (WSFWP), covering at least a 10-year planning horizon, and incorporate selected alternative water supply projects from the NFRWSP into the Plan. This text amendment incorporates the revised plan by reference and updates references to other County water supply plans used to develop the Plan.]

MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> ITEM NUMBER FIVE MR. LEDBETTER .

>> GO AHEAD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MADAME CHAIR.

BOARD MEMBERS SENIOR ENGINEER HERE AT THE COUNTY. LAST TIME I WAS IN FRONT OF YOU FOR THIS ITEM, WAS BACK IN MARCH AT THE HEARING RELATED TO CONFERENCE A PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE NORTH FLORIDA REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY. A NOTE A REMINDER. THIS IS SOMETHING TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM ANY OTHER CONFERENCE A PLAN AMENDMENT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON, SOMETHING REQUIRED BY STATUTE.

LAST TIME I WAS IN FRONT OF YOU WE WERE LOOKING FOR RECOMMENDATION TO TRANSMIT STATE AGENCY REVIEW THIS TIME LOOKING TO ADOPTION. TODAY LOOKING FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR ADOPTION OF PROPOSED CONFERENCE OF PLAN AMENDMENTS SPECIFICALLY MENDING POLICIES ONE FOR 17 AND 462 4622 ADDRESS REQUIREMENTS OF THE 2023 NORTH FLORIDA REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY PLAN. WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? FLORIDA STATUTE SAYS WITHIN 18 MONTHS OF THE DISTRICT ISSUING UPDATED REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY PLAN REQUIRED BY STATUTE

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TO UPDATE CONFERENCE A PLAN TO ADOPT ALTERNATIVE PROJECTS INTO THE PLANT AND ALSO UPDATE WATER SUPPLY FACILITY WORKPLAN. ONCE AGAIN REQUIRING US, THEY UPDATED WATER SUPPLY PAN DECEMBER 2023.

THAT'S GOING TO PUT A DEADLINE FOR US INTO JUNE OF THIS YEAR TO FINISH TO REQUIRE MINOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS AND UPDATED WATER SUPPLY FACILITY WORKPLAN. FACILITY WORKPLAN LOOKS AT ROADS IN THE COUNTY AND SHOWS HOW WE PLAN TO MEET GROWTH WITH UTILITIES. WALKAWAY TIMELINE OF WHERE WE HAVE BEEN AND WHERE WE ARE GOING. DECEMBER 2023 THEY ISSUED THE UPDATED REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY PLAN. WE HAD OUR INITIAL PUBLIC TRANSMIT HEARING MARCH 6 IN FRONT OF YOU. WE RECEIVE RECOMMENDATION TO TRANSMIT , WE HAD THE INITIAL TRANSMITTAL HEARING APRIL 1 BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THEY APPROVED US MOVING FORWARD WHICH GIVE US 30 DAY REVIEW PERIOD FOR STATE AGENCY REVIEW WHICH STARTED APRIL 7 AND ENDED MAY 7. A SUMMARY WE RECEIVED EITHER NO COMMENTS FROM THE AGENCY OR NO ISSUES WITH WHAT WE WERE DOING. REMINDING US RELATED TO THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT WE WORKED WITH THEM BEFORE THE TRANSMITTAL HEARING TO SHOW WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH CONFERENCE A PLAN AMENDMENT AND FACILITY WORKPLAN WITH SOME MINOR COMMENTS BACK THEN, WE INCORPORATED THEM BUT THE OFFICIAL REVIEW HAD NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. THEY WERE HAPPY WITH THEM. TODAY WE ARE LOOKING FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR ADOPTION . IF WE RECEIVE RECOMMENDATION WE WILL LOOK AT JUNE 3 ADOPTION HEARING AT THE BCC MEETING REGULATORY DEADLINE OF JUNE 12. I WANT TO RENT TO THE CONFERENCE A PLAN AMENDMENTS AGAIN WITH YOU. NOTHING IS CHANGED SINCE TRANSMITTAL HEARING WITH NO COMMENTS FROM STATE AGENCY NOTHING CHANGED IN THE AMENDMENTS. THE FIRST IS UPDATING REFERENCE TO THE WATER SUPPLY FACILITY WORKPLAN PREVIOUS LOOKING AT THE YEARS 2019 THROUGH 2030 OUR NEW ONE INCORPORATED BY REFERENCE 25 THROUGH 35. SECOND AMENDED POLICY IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF , WE USED REFERENCE INTEGRATED WATER RESOURCE PLANS.

WE WANT TO REFERENCE GENERAL WATER SUPPLY PLAN INSTEAD. ONCE AGAIN TODAY LOOKING FOR MOTION TO RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF CARRANZA PLAN AMENDMENTS SPECIFICALLY POLICIES D 4117 AND 642 TO MEET REQUIREMENTS OF 2023 NORTH FLORIDA REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY PLAN. WITH THAT I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU

MAY HAVE. >> SO, HOW ARE WE LOOKING AS FAR AS WATER SUPPLY GOES? IN THIS COUNTY AND THE REGION?

>> I DON'T KNOW THE NUTS AND BOLTS, IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION I CAN BREAK MY COLLEAGUE. PLAN FOR WATER SUPPLY FOR FUTURE WE ARE MEETING SUPPLY FOR THE EXISTING AND UPCOMING

GROWTH THAT WE PLAN FOR. >> THIS IS GROUNDWATER AND

SURFACE WATER . >> CORRECT AND ALTERNATE WATER

SUPPLY. >> THEY ARE ALL INCLUDED OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TO SPEAK ON A NUMBER FIVE? AGENCY FOR A

MOTION. >> HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT WATER SINCE THIS CAME OUT. FASCINATING REALLY. MOTION TO RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF COMP PLAN AMENDMENT 202-46 TO AMEND POLICY TO ADDRESS REQUIREMENTS OF THE 2023 NORTH FLORIDA REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY PLAN SUBJECT TO THREE FINDINGS OF FACT AS

PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> IS THERE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. THAT MOTION

[6. LDCA 2024-03 Land Development Code Updates. Updates to Land Development Code (LDC) Articles II, III, V, VI, IX, and XII, and the Table of Contents, to maintain consistency with Florida Statutes and to better organize existing parts of the code.]

PASSES, THANK YOU MR. LEDBETTER. I DON'T NUMBER SIX.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. AGENCY MEMBERS, GROWTH MANAGEMENT. HERE TO PRESENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 620 24-03

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LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATES. THERE ARE MULTIPLE CHANGES IN THIS AMENDMENT. EACH PROPOSED CHANGE FALLS WITHIN ONE OF TWO CATEGORIES. FIRST CATEGORY IS IN REGARD TO FLORIDA STATUTE CHANGE TO KEEP THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CONSISTENT WITH FLORIDA STATUTE, SECOND CATEGORY IS GENERAL CLARIFICATION AND ORGANIZATION. STARTING WITH FLORIDA STATUTE RELATED CHANGES, THE FIRST ITEM WOULD AMEND ACREAGE FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ESTABLISHMENT FROM 1000 TO 2500 ACRES THAT DID CHANGE FLORIDA STATUTE SO WE WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE SECTION 5.0 6.00. THE SECOND CHANGE WOULD AMEND QUALIFYING ACREAGE AMOUNT FROM 10 TO 50 ACRES FOR CARRANZA PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE SMALL-SCALE VARIETY CHANGING SECTION 9.0 4.00 OF THE LDC. THERE CHANGE IN REGARD TO THE REFERENCE CURRENTLY SECTION 9.0 5.02 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IF WE HAVE LANGUAGE IT REFERS TO JUNE DECEMBER ADOPTION CYCLE FOR CARRANZA PLAN AMENDMENT AND THAT IS NO LONGER IN THE STATE STATUTE SO WE WOULD LIKE THAT REMOVED. NEXT CHANGE THE LAST CHANGE RELATED TO STATE STATUTE CHANGES. FLORIDA STATUTE 163.3208 DEFINES THE TERM OF ELECTRIC SUBSTATION NOW AND ÚALLOWS THE ADOPTION OF LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION TO ADDRESS AESTHETIC-BASED STANDARDS LIKE SETBACK BUFFERING AND LANDSCAPING. ALSO THE STATUTE NOW SPECIFIES THAT ELECTRIC SUBSTATIONS ARE PERMITTED USE IN ALL LAND-USE CATEGORIES EXCEPT IN PRESERVATION CONSERVATION OR HISTORIC PRESERVATION USE DESIGNATION. SO WHAT WE PROPOSE IN THE AMENDMENT IS TO ADD A SECTION 6.0 8.45 ELECTRIC SUBSTATIONS TO THE SUPPLEMENTAL DESIGN STANDARD FOR SPECIFIED USE SECTION OF THE CURRENT CODE. THAT WOULD BE WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA WOULD GO ALLOWED BY STATE STATUTE. WE WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE A FEW TABLES, TABLE 2.30301 AND TWO TABLES WITHIN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT FOR WEST AUGUSTINE AND HASTINGS. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD DEFINITION FOR ELECTRIC SUBSTATION SECTION 12 AND WE WOULD TAKE THAT STRAIGHT FROM STATUTE. I CAN MOVE ON TO THE GENERAL CLARIFICATION OR ANSWER QUESTIONS PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE NOW. OKAY I WILL CONTINUE. THOSE ITEMS INCLUDED FOR GENERAL CLARIFICATION PURPOSES. AND THE OTHER SECTION SPECIFICALLY 2.0 3.06 OF THE LDC WE NEED TO FIX A CODE REFERENCE TO SECTION OF LDC THAT NO LONGER EXISTS SO THAT'S BASICALLY A CLERICAL FIX. NEXT WE WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY WHEN IT COMES TO SECTION SORRY 2.0 3.10 FOR LAND EXCAVATION AND BORROWED AREAS WE WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY ENGINEER SITE PLAN REQUIRED AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL NOT AT THE TIME OF SPECIAL USE PERMITTING APPLICATION. ON THIS POINT, WE PROPOSE TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR STAFF ON-SITE OFFICES AT PERSONAL PROPERTY WAREHOUSE FACILITIES AND RECREATIONAL BOAT STORAGE FACILITIES. THIS WE WOULD STILL RETAIN REQUIREMENT IN THE CODE RIGHT NOW THAT RESPECTS FACILITY ACCESS TO MANAGEMENT PERSONNEL BEING ON-SITE UNLESS INDIVIDUAL ELECTRONIC ACCESS IS AVAILABLE . THIS CHANGE WOULD AFFECT SECTION 2.0 3.16 AND 2.0342 OF THE CURRENT CODE. SO, ON THIS POINT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADJUST TABLE 2.0 3.01, TO BASICALLY ANOTHER CLERICAL FIX TO MATCH THE INFORMATION THAT IS ALREADY IN THE CODE WITHIN SECTION 2.0 2.01 YEARS CLASSIFICATION DEFINITIONS . WE WANT TO REFLECT RESTAURANTS WITHOUT DRIVE-THROUGH'S ARE PERMITTED AS NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL USE. IN

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TERMS OF SECTION 5.0 7.00 WHICH WE ALL MIGHT KNOW IS THE WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DENSITY SECTION , WE KNOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS DEFINED IN THE LDC WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING AS WELL. THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS DOES NOT APPLY TO WORKFORCE HOUSING AS DEFINED IN THE LDC SO WHAT WE PROPOSED IS THROUGHOUT THE SECTION TO REMOVE THE TERM WORKFORCE THROUGHOUT AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP PEOPLE'S UNDERSTANDING. THE NEXT ITEM ANOTHER CLEANUP ITEM TABLE 1.619 EXCUSE ME 6.19 LAND-USE CLASSIFICATION TO DIFFERENT GROUPS ACCORDING TO THE USE LEVEL OF INTENSITY FOR THE PURPOSE OF DETERMINING OFFER REQUIREMENTS. RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY SIX UNITS PER ACRE IN GROUPS TWO AND THREE AND WE WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IT BELONGS IN GROUP 3 FOR BUFFERING. JUST TWO ITEMS LEFT. ORGANIZATION OF DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA. SOME DESIGN STANDARDS THAT APPLY TO ALL USE LOCATED IN 2.0 3.00 OF THE COAT AND SHOULD BE IN PART 6.0 .00 SO WE WOULD LIKE TO PLACE THE CRITERIA IN THE CORRECT CODE SECTION. THE LAST ITEM IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF TABLES IN THE LDC AND SOMETIMES YOU WANT TO GET TO THEM QUICKLY SO WE THOUGHT MAYBE WE SHOULD ADD QUICK REFERENCE GUIDE TO THE TABLES WITHIN THE TABLE OF CONTENTS. THOSE ARE ON THE SCREEN THE ACTIONS AVAILABLE TO THE AGENCY TODAY AND WE ARE

AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. >> I PROBABLY SHOULD'VE ASKED WHEN I SPOKE TO YOU ON THE PHONE AND IT MIGHT BE A STUPID QUESTION WHAT IS A ELECTRIC SUBSTATION?

>> I HAVE THE DEFINITION, PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO GO.

THAT IS IN 12. SO THE OFFICIAL DEFINITION FROM THIS STATUTE IS THAT IT INCLUDES ELECTRIC SUBSTATION WITH ACCESSORY ADMINISTRATION OR MAINTENANCE BUILDINGS AND RELATED ACCESSORY USE AND STRUCTURE WHICH TAKES ELECTRICITY FROM THE TRANSMISSION GRID AND CONVERTS TO ANOTHER VOLTAGE OR LOWER VOLTAGE TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO CUSTOMERS THROUGH ONE OR MORE

LINES. >> THAT WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD JUST IN SPORADIC PLACES TO KEEP THE GRID GOING. OKAY. I DID NOT KNOW IF IT WAS THE LITTLE BOX WE HAD. I WANT TO SAY YAY ON THE LIST OF TABLES THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

>> MR. LABANOWSKI. >> TO GO BACK TO THE SUBSTATIONS, DOES THAT INCLUDE SOLAR POWERED AREAS AS WELL?

THERE ARE STATIONS THERE. >> THE SOLAR STATIONS ARE FOUND IN ANOTHER SECTION OF THE FLORIDA STATUTE SO I MIGHT DEFER

TO LEGAL. >> SO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMEPLACE THEY WOULD ALLOW SOLAR PANELS TO BE PUT?

>> MORE SO COLLECTING ELECTRICITY THERE IS A STATION

WITH SOLAR. >> I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE ALLOWABLE TO CONSTRUCT A SOLAR FARM BUT IT IS POTENTIAL THESE FACILITIES CAN HAVE SOLAR PANELS SWAY SUBSTATION MIGHT USE A SOLAR PANEL AND YOU MAY KNOW BETTER.

>> ELECTRIC SUBSTATION IS NOT A SOLAR FARM, POTENTIALLY COULD THERE BE SOLAR PANELS AT ONE FOR AUXILIARY POWER SURELY BUT IT IS

NOT TO ALLOW SOLAR FARMS. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER SIX?

>> GREAT JOB GOING THROUGH THAT. THAT IS SO HARD TO GO THROUGH Ú IF SHE IS HAPPY WITH WHAT SHE HAS COME UP WITH I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT IT IS ALL GOOD. I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE TAKING MORE NOTICE OF THE WORKFORCE VERSUS AFFORDABLE

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HOUSING, PEOPLE GET SO CONFUSED BY THOSE TWO WORDS AND WORKFORCE IS JUST A ZONING DESIGNATION MORE THAN ANYTHING. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL HELP OR NOT, BUT YOU KNOW IT WOULD BE NICE IF PEOPLE WOULD GET ON THE RIGHT PAGE ABOUT THAT. AND ANSWER , MISS MISS SPIEGEL ELECTRIC SUBSTATION AT 207 AND MIGHT ROAD WHERE THEY HAVE THOSE BIG TOWERS COMING IN WITH ALL THE BOXES , REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICAL VOLTAGE OR WHATEVER THAT IS.

I'M NOT AN ELECTRIC ENGINEER AND REDUCES SO IT CAN COME TO YOUR HOUSE APPROPRIATE. THAT'S THE ONE I KNOW . THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? BACK TO THE AGENCY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE BASED ON MODIFICATIONS BEING CONSISTENT WITH FLORIDA LAW AND ST. JOHN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

ANY DISCUSSION? MISS SPIEGEL >> I JUST WANTED TO ECHO THE COMMENT. VERY NICE JOB , THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

>> LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE THAT MOTION PASSES , THANK YOU. ITEM

[7. Recommendation to the Board of County Commissioners for Planning and Zoning Agency Member Appointment. There is currently one Agency vacancy due to the resignation of Mr. Elvis Pierre, whose term was scheduled to expire on July 20, 2025. This position was most recently advertised for the required thirty (30) days. The attached applications meet the minimum criteria for consideration; the Planning and Zoning Agency shall recommend a new Agency Member to the Board Of County Commissioners.]

NUMBER SEVEN. >> MADAM CHAIR AS AGENCY MEMBERS MIGHT BE AWARE OPEN. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF APPLICANTS FOR THE AGENCY TO DISCUSS MAKING RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY

COMMISSIONERS. >> MADAM CHAIR ONE OF THE APPLICANTS SPOKE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU MIGHT MAKE OPPORTUNITY IN CASE THERE OTHER MEMBERS THAT ARE WAITING FOR THE

ITEM BEFORE YOUR. >> I WAS PLANNING ON THAT. WE WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME

SPEAK PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> A LONG TIME TO READ 20 RESUMES PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO WATCH IT SCROLLING ON YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN. I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SERVE AND TO GIVE THEM ALL A CLAIM FOR THAT WE NEED MORE PEOPLE SERVING.

THERE ARE MANY REASONS WHY PEOPLE WILL APPLY FOR A PCA ADVISORY POSITION AND I THINK SOME PEOPLE JUST WANT TO SERVE AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES OPEN THEY THROW THEIR HAT IN , WHICH IS GREAT. OTHERS USE IT SOMETIMES SELF-SERVING AND THAT'S FOR YOU GUYS TO TRY TO FLESH OUT AND THERE ARE SOME THAT GENUINELY CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AND WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SERVE, USING WHATEVER BACKGROUNDS THEY HAVE AND TIME THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IT. IT IS A HUGE JOB AND I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE REALIZE THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES TO PREPARE FOR THE MEETINGS. THE STACK OF PAPERS YOU ALMOST GET AND I GUESS YOU DON'T DO PAPERS ANYMORE. BACK IN THE DAY THEY WOULD BRING A BOX TO MY HOUSE AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT, BUT IT IS A LOT , GOING AND DOING THE SITE VISITS AND THE TWO NEW PEOPLE WE HAVE NOW FAIRLY RECENT , JUDY AND CHUCK HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.

ONE OF THE REASONS THEY WERE ABLE TO SEE IT IN THE CHAIR AND COME UP TO SPEED FAIRLY QUICKLY IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN ATTENDING MEETINGS OR WATCHING AT HOME AND CORRESPONDING WITH YOU AND INTERACTING WITH STAFF. THEY KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE GETTING INTO AND HAD A GOOD IDEA OF PROTOCOLS IN PLACE WHEN YOU GET UP AND SIT DOWN SO THEY CAN GET WITH IT AND WE ARE NOT WAITING FOREVER FOR THEM TO COME UP TO SPEED. WITH THAT SAID

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LOOKING TO THE 20 APPLICATIONS LAST NIGHT, ONE IN MY OPINION ROSE TO THE TOP AND THAT WAS MEETINGS AND THE OCC ATTENDING AND LISTENING, GIVING PRODUCT IF INPUT WHEN HE GETS UP HERE AND I FEEL HE WOULD BE THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE JOB AT THIS TIME, THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COURT. MY NAME IS SAM FRIEDMAN A REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY HERE IN NOKIA T, MY ADDRESS IS THE POSITION OPEN ON LINKEDIN AND IS A YOUNGER ATTORNEY AM A TITLE INSURANCE UNDERWRITER PRIOR TO THAT I REPRESENTED COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS CONDOMINIUM AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS. THROUGHOUT NORTHEAST FLORIDA AND PART OF THAT I WAS A ASSISTANT STATE ATTORNEY FOR THE FOURTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT DOWNTOWN JACKSONVILLE. I SAW THE POSITION AND TO HAVE A EACH TO SERVE BECAUSE MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED HERE FIVE YEARS NOW AND WE HOPE TO BE LIVING HERE A LOT LONGER. I FIGURED THIS WAS A GREAT WAY FOR ME TO BRING MY EXPERTISE AND BRING MEASURED PREPARED AND ETHICAL DECISIONS THAT CAN BEST IMPACT THE CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THANK YOU FOR MUCH FOR

YOUR TIME. >> DID YOU SERVE UNDER MELISSA

NELSON? OKAY. >> WHEN IT CAME OUT OF LAW SCHOOL I WAS IN THE FIRST INAUGURAL CLASS. WE HAD A GREAT

TIME TRYING CASES. >> IT IS A LOT OF FUN.