[1. COMM 2024-116 FCC Environmental Service Florida, LLC. Requesting site plan approval through PZA in accordance with Ordinance 1987-01, to allow for Installation of 72 unmanned open-air outdoor CNG (Compressed Natural Gas) fueling stations and equipment for their Company-owned fleet of commercial refuse vehicles, located at 3375 Agricultural Center Drive.]

SERVE WITH YOU ON THE PZA. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE MOVING ON ITEM NUMBER ONE , WITH THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME FORWARD?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON I AM CUCAMONGA, CALIFORNIA. I WORK WITH OPEL FUELS REPRESENTING FCC FOR THE FUELING STATION.

SO WE ARE ASKING FOR APPROVAL ON A CG FUELING STATION, THIS WILL BE , IT WILL PROVIDE FUEL TO THE FCC'S REFUSE FLEET, THE

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PROPERTY IS 3375 AGRICULTURAL CENTER DRIVE. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FCC. THIS IS THEIR CORE VALUES. THEY BELIEVE IN HONESTY, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE LOYAL, THEY ARE RIGOROUS AND PROFESSIONALS AND THEY ARE RESULT ORIENTED. FCC HAS OVER 110 YEARS OF MUNICIPAL SERVICE. THEY ARE A GLOBAL COMPANY IN OVER 35 COUNTRIES. THE HISTORY OF FCC. THEY WERE FOUNDED IN 1900 AND THEIR PRESENCE IN THE UNITED STATES STARTED IN 2000.

THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE PROPERTY.

THE CG STATION I WILL CONSIST OF TWO COMPRESSORS LOCATED DOWN IN THIS AREA. THERE WILL BE PARKING FOR THEIR TRUCKS ALONG THIS AREA. AS WELL AS THIS AREA. AND THE TRUCKS WILL SIT OVERNIGHT AND THEY WILL FUEL. YOU'LL SEE THIS COMING UP IN A FEW SLIDES.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED IW IN A MIXED USE AREA AND ADJACENT TO THE PUBLIC SERVICE AREA AND AN OPEN RURAL AREA.

THIS IS THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY. WHAT WE ARE SHOWING HERE IS LANDSCAPE OFFERINGS THAT WILL BE PUT IN AS PART OF THE PROJECT. WE ARE ALSO IDENTIFYING EXISTING SIDEWALKS.

THERE IS AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT FCC OPERATES OUT OF AND WE ARE SHOWING SAID TAX ALONG THE SIDES OF THE PROPERTY. THE CG STATION WILL BE TOWARD THE BACK. DOWN HERE IS THE LAYOUT FOR THE STATION, WE WILL SEE A ZOOMED IN VIEW IN A FEW MINUTES, THERE WILL BE 72 PARK AND STALLS, EACH STALL WILL HAVE A TIME FILL .

SO, THE COMPRESSORS WILL TAKE NATURAL GAS OFF THE UTILITY, COMPRESS PER VEHICLE USE AND IT WILL BE PIPED TO EACH ONE OF THESE POSITIONS WHERE THE VEHICLE IS FUELED OVERNIGHT.

THIS IS SOME CIVIL IMPROVEMENTS, A SWALE WILL BE GOING IN THE PROPERTY TO DIRECT STORM WATER RUNOFF TO THE EXISTING RETENTION AREA ON THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY. THIS IS A DIAGRAM OF A C&G. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THERE IS NO BULK STORAGE OF FUEL LIKE YOU WOULD SEE IN DIESEL EVERYTHING IS TAKEN OFF UTILITY. IT GOES THROUGH A DRYER , TO DRY THE GAS AND COMPRESSORS WILL COMPRESS THE GAS SEND IT TO THE VALVE PANEL WHICH WILL DISTRIBUTE THE GAS TO THE VEHICLES THEMSELVES.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF A CURRENT SITE THAT OPEL HAS BUILT AND OPERATES, THESE ARE COMPRESSORS, BUT YOU SEE IN THE PICTURE ARE FOUR COMPRESSORS, AT THE SITE LOOK LIKE THIS, THE MAJORITY OF THE PIPING IS UNDERGROUND, RISES UP AND CONNECTS TO THE COMPESSORS. THIS IS THE INLET GAS FROM THE UTILITY. THIS IS ANOTHER SITE, YOU CHOSE THIS PICTURE BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE ACTUAL GAS LINE COMING IN FROM THE UTILITY AND THEN THIS BLUE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN THE BACKGROUND IS THE DRYER I REFERENCED THAT IS PART OF THE PROCESS AND ALSO YOU CAN SEE TWO COMPRESSORS. THIS IS A ZOOMED IN VIEW OF THE TIME FILL AREA, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME FILL IN AREA, THERE WILL BE FUELING POSITIONS WITH A POST THAT SERVES EACH , I JUST REALIZED MY CIRCLES ARE OFF A LITTLE BIT ON THE SCREEN. THERE WILL BE A POST THAT SERVES EACH ONE OF THE TRUCKS , AS WELL AS WE WILL HAVE SITE LIGHTING AND WANT TO POINT OUT, I THINK WE SEE A PICTURE. THERE IS WHAT WE CALL THE ESD BUTTONS. THESE ARE EMERGENY SHUTDOWN BUTTONS AND IN AN EMERGENCY IT WOULD STOP THE FLOW OF GAS INTO THE COMPRESSORS AND IT WOULD SHUT OFF THE FLOW OF GAS TO THE TRUCKS. THIS IS A PICTURE OF A TYPICAL AREA, YOU CAN SEE THIS

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IN YELLOW. THE FUELING POST ON THE KEY RAMP. THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE OF A TYPICAL AREA, THIS IS THE EMERGENCY STOP BUTTON THAT I REFERENCED A FEW MINUTES AGO. THIS IS THE COMPRESSOR COMPOUND ZOOMED IN VIEW AND THE SECOND TIME FILL AREA. THIS WILL BE OUR ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT LOCATED IN THE COMPRESSED AREA AS WELL. I REFERENCED THE ESD BUTTONS. WHEN THEY ARE PRESSED THEY STOP THE FLOW OF GAS TO THE TRUCK SO THE SYSTEM IS EXTREMELY SAFE. IT WILL ALSO CLOSE THIS VALVE, THIS IS THE FIRST PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN THE PROCESS, THE VALVE WILL SHUT IN EMERGENCY AND STOP GAS FROM COMING INTO THE SITE AND THE LAST TWO SLIDES JUST SOME TYPICAL SIGNAGE THAT YOU WOULD SEE ON THE SITE.

THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> HELLO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ONE OF THE PICTURES YOU SHOW, SHOW FUELING BAY AND IT WAS A UNPAVED SERVICE, IT LOOKS TO ME BY THE SITE PLAN ALMOST THE WHOLE SITE IS GOING TO BE PAVED CORRECT? OR IS THIS GOING TO BE UNPAVED?

>> IT IS A UNPAVED SURFACE, CURRENTLY.

>> I JUST CANNOT SEE WHAT IS SAID IF IT WOULD BE PAVED, SEEMED LIKE IT WAS HIGH FOR THE PERCENTAGE OF THE SITE.

>> THE EXISTING SERVICE IS NOT PAVED, WE HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH I BELIEVE THIS CURRENT SCOPE IS TO BE UNPAVED BUT WE ARE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SURFACE WE MADE EXISTING DRY PATH TO SUPPORT THE FIRE TRUCKS AND THIS SITE IS INTENDED TO BE

UNPAVED. >> YOU WILL FOLLOW THE COUNTY CODE. HAVE A QUESTION, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE FCC REPS ABOUT CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE COUNTY?

>> NO I DO NOT. WE WORK WITH FCC ACROSS THE COUNTRY BUT I CANNOT

SPEAK TO THE SPECIFICS. >> THERE IS NO ANSWER TO THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THERE WILL BE HERE IN SIX MONTHS OR NOT.

>> I CANNOT ANSWER THAT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS BEING PUT IN, IT WOULD WARN THEM TO BE LONGER

HERE IN SIX MONTHS. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. YOU STATED THIS WILL NOT BE MANNED?

>> OPEL FUEL OWNS AND OPERATES THE EQUIPMENT, IT IS A UNMANNED FACILITY, BUT WE HAVE TECHNICIANS IN THE REGION THAT WILL MONITOR TO DISPATCH FOR SERVICE.

>> THE MANUAL SHUT OFFS , THEY WILL SHUT THE TRUCKS OFF AT NIGHT AND DURING THE DAY AND FUELED OVERNIGHT SO NOBODY WILL BE THERE OVERNIGHT TO BE ABLE TO HIT THE EMERGENCY SHUT OFF

VALVE? >> YES, THE EMERGENCY SHUT OFF VALVE IS A MANUAL VALVE THE SYSTEM IS MONITORED REMOTELY. SO THERE IS GAS SENSORS, DETECTED LEAKS, PRESSURE DROPS AND IT WILL DETECT THAT AS FAR AS FUELING THERE IS NOBODY FUELING THE SITE DRIVERS WILL COME IN AFTER THE ROUTES AND HOOK UP AND

IT WILL RUN UNMANNED. >> WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN NATURAL GAS AND PROPANE? >> NATURAL GAS IS LIGHTER THAN AIR. IT COMES OFF OF THE UTILITY LINE WHERE PROPANE VEHICLE, IT IS A VIRTUAL PIPELINE THAT GAS HAS TO BE TRUCKED IN.

>> EVERY ONE OF THESE TRUCK DRIVERS ARE GOING TO BE CERTIFIED TO HANDLE THAT EQUIPMENT?

>> THERE IS NO CERTIFICATION REQUIRED BY THE CODE TO FILL THE VEHICLE. THERE IS PUBLIC RETAIL, C&G STATIONS ACROSS FLORIDA ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, THERE ARE VEHICLES THAT RUN ON C&G,

THEY CAN PULL IN AND FEEL . >> THE REASON I ASK, IF YOU GO TO CAMPING WORLD OR ANY OTHER PLACES IF IT BE CERTIFIED TO PUMP IT AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

>> ON PROPANE IT IS LIQUEFIED. THE TRANSFER OF THAT IS A DIFFERENT PROCESS AND THIS IS A MOTOR VEHICLE, FUEL OR

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COMMERCIAL OR PASSENGER VEHICLES. THERE IS PUBLIC STATIONS THAT SOMEONE WITH THE VEHICLE CAN PULL UP AND FEEL.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> SO, AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 4 IN THIS PUD IT SAYS TRANSPORTATION SIGNAL ASSESSMENTS AND IMPROVEMENTS MAY BE REQUIRED OF INDIVIDUAL SITE DEVELOPERS TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC IMPACTS GENERATED ON-SITE AND OFF-SITE BETWEEN AGRICULTURAL AND HIGHWAY ROAD STATE ROAD 16.

I ASSUME AND THIS QUESTION IS DIRECTLY TO STAFF, THAT WOULD BE DONE AT THE SITE PLAN REVIEW AND BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW?

>> TO THE CHAIR, JACOB SMITH WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT ANSWER THE QUESTION, THIS APPLICATION IS UNDER REVIEW BY STAFF FOR THE COMMERCIAL PLAN SET AND YES YOU ARE RIGHT, IF THERE WERE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS I DON'T BELIEVE BASED ON MY REMEMBERING THE PROJECT THAT THERE WERE BUT THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO IT AS A ONGOING APPLICATION.

>> OKAY WE WOULD CHECK THE SENT ASK.

>> THE SETBACK, THE SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU IS COMPLIANT.

>> ONE MORE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. IS THAT A TOXIC ?

>> DEFINE TOXIC. IT IS A FLAMMABLE GAS, IT IS NOT TOXIC

IN THE SENSE OF FPA. >> I WAS NOT ASKING FLAMMABLE, I

WAS ASKING IF WE HAVE A SPILL. >> THE, IT IS FLAMMABLE . THERE SOMETHING CALLED A HAZARDOUS AREA THAT GOVERNS THE INSTALLATION OF ELECTRICAL AND IN THE CODE THERE IS SETBACKS FOR SOURCES OF IGNITION. THE DESIGN IS COMPLIANT WITH THAT, ALL THE ELECTRICAL WITH THE HAZARDOUS AREAS, DESIGN OF COURSE WITH THE FLORIDA ELECTRICAL CODE AND NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE. AND THE GAS RISES. SO THERE ARE RELIEF VALVES. IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITHIN THE SYSTEM AND A RELIEF VALVE WAS TO GO OFF AND RELEASE GAS THE MINIMUM HEIGHT OF RELIEF IS 10 FEET SO IT DOES NOT COLLECT ON THE GROUND.

>> I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. >> WE HAVE ONE MORE PERSON. I'M

SORRY. >> THERE WE GO. MAYBE MORE OF A STAFF QUESTION FROM ME. THIS WAS A COMMERCIAL PLAN BACK IN 1987 , THIS DEVELOPMENT , WHAT THIS FAULT LINE BE A REGULAR ZONING CATEGORY? I KNOW WE HAVE A SIMILAR STATION ON 60, DOES THIS FIT IN ANY REGULAR ZONING CATEGORY OR IS THAT ALL SORT OF

SPECIAL REVIEW ? >> THROUGH THE CHAIR TO THE QUESTION. THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT SITS OVER THE TOP OF THIS AREA HAS A FAIRLY LONG ZONING MANUSCRIPT THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT. ONE OF THE CONDITIONS HAPPENS TO BE APPROVAL BY THE PZA BUT OTHERWISE IT IS TREATED AS INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE ZONING.

SO ANYTHING THAT FALLS WITHIN THAT CATEGORY USE WOULD BE ALLOWED INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE ZONING. ON A DIFFERENT SITE.

>> SO IT IS ALLOWABLE USE UNDER CERTAIN CATEGORIES.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> THANK YOU.

>> MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER ONE?

>> SIR, YOU CAN TAKE A SEAT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATES. I HAVE A CLIP FROM AUGUST 2020 FOR MEETING THAT OCCURRED AND IT WAS FOR FCC CONTRACT. CAN YOU PLAY

THAT PLEASE? >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. I WANT

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TO ACCEPT BLAME FOR THE SITUATION WE FIND OURSELVES IN.

I WANT TO ACCEPT FULL RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE THINGS YOU HAVE DONE WRONG YOU DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO FIX IT. IF YOU SAY IT'S EVERYBODY ELSE'S FAULT YOU'RE NOT IN CONTROL OF THE REMEDY TO THE SITUATION AND I VOTED YES TO HIRE FCC. IF YOU ATTENDED THE AUGUST 6 MEETING THEN YOU SIDE EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT RELIABILITY AND RELIABILITY WAS MY CONCERN AND I DID NOT TRUST MY GUT AND I HAVE REGRETS ABOUT THAT. BUT IT IS MY FAULT. NOT TALKING ABOUT OTHER COMMISSIONERS OR MY STAFF, NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT FCC. I AM UPSET WITH MYSELF FOR NOT TRUSTING MY GUT. BECAUSE IT IS MY FAULT I WANT TO OFFER A REMEDY AND IT IS WITH THAT IN MIND I MAKE THIS MOTION. I WANT TO DIRECT COUNTY ADMINISTRATION TO HIRE IN WHATEVER WAY THEY SEE FIT PIGGYBACK CONTRACTS THAT ARE BEEN OFFERED TO US TODAY IN WHATEVER WAY YOU SEE FIT, WHATEVER WE WOULD BEST SERVE ST.

JOHNS COUNTY TWO TO TERMINATE RELATIONSHIP WITH FCC WHICH I UNDERSTAND PER MY DISCUSSION IS A PROCESS. AND IT DOES NOT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, BUT I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS

TODAY SO THAT IS MY MOTION. >> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.

VOTE? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> SO THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING AT. THIS IS THE CONTRACT STILL IN LITIGATION OR WHATEVER, CAN THEY GO AHEAD AND JUST PUT THIS MULTIMILLION DOLLAR GAS AND MOTOR POOL WHILE WE ARE WAITING FOR THE CONTRACT TO BE CLOSED? TO BE, WHAT IS IT? IT'S ALMOST LIKE SAYING , YEAH, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU PEOPLE CAME AND DONE AND IT, BUT WE ARE STILL MOVING ON BECAUSE WE CONTRACTED. NOW YOU ALL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CLOSE IT. EMERGENCY MEETING, ACTUALLY THAT WAS THE PRIMARY VOTING DAY RIGHT THERE. SO YES. IF THEY VOTED TO CANCEL THE CONTRACT WHY WILL THIS GO ON? THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE.

BACK TO THE AGENCY. I'VE A QUESTION OF STAFF. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MR. HUNT IS REFERRING TO, CAN YOU GIVE MR. HUNT TIME? SO YES MADAM CHAIR, FORGIVE ME, I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST YEAR.

>> APPROXIMATELY AUGUST OF LAST YEAR , THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TOOK ISSUE WITH THE SERVICE QUALITY OF FCC AND

MADE, PLEASE JOIN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

COUNTY ATTORNEY, THE VIDEO WAS BACK AT FCC WHEN THEY INITIATED THE CONTRACT, THERE WERE SERVICE ISSUES. WE WERE GIVEN DIRECTION TO INITIATE THE PROCESS FOR TERMINATION WHICH REQUIRES US TO GO BACK TO THE TABLE. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH FCC IN REGARDS TO IMPROVEMENTS OF QUALITY AND GETTING BACK ON TRACK WITH EFFICIENCY. THEY ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY, WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM REGARDING TERMINATION SO THEY ARE STILL UNDER CONTRACT OF THE COUNTY.

>> WE ARE JUST HERE TO APPROVE THE ITEM OR NOT.

>> WHETHER THEY REMAIN OR NOT, THE FACILITY, THEY ARE BRINGING

THIS FORWARD TO YOU. >> I THINK WE HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS. >> AS I RECALL WHAT HAPPENED, THE FIRST TWO OR THREE WEEKS FCC WAS HIRED, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WAS NOT UP TO PAR AND SO THAT'S WHEN THE COUNTY GOT UPSET WITH THEM AND MOVED , COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST MOVED TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT. SO YOU ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF POTENTIALLY TERMINATING CONTRACT AND THEY DO PICK UP MY RECYCLING AND TRASH AND THEY HAVE BEEN GOOD SINCE THAT TIME.

>> CORRECT. THEY BEEN WORKING GETTING TO A PLAN TO BRING UP THAT SERVICE LEVEL SO WE ARE WORKING THROUGH MEDIATION TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.

>> OKAY BUT THEY'RE STILL POSSIBILITY OF TERMINATION OF

CONTRACT? >> AT THAT POINT IT'S NOT ME TO SAY BUT AS YOU ARE SAYING PROGRESS HAS BEEN THERE WE ARE

WORKING WITH THEM. >> OKAY THANK YOU.

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>> HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE GENTLEMAN WHO DID THE PRESENTATION. JUST CURIOSITY. YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE ORIGINAL PERSON AVAILABLE THAT IT IS A AUTOMATED SYSTEM. WHAT IS A REGION? IS IT JUST NORTH AMERICA?

>> OPAL FUELS HIS NORTH AMERICA. OUR SERVICE DEPARTMENT IS BASED IN MINNESOTA, THEY HAVE STAFF IN FLORIDA. ALSO OUR COMPANY, WE HAVE TECHNICIANS IN POLK COUNTY WORKING WITH THE LANDFILL DOWN THERE SO I CANNOT SAY EXACTLY WHERE THE TECHNICIAN WILL BE, BUT THEY WILL BE IN CENTRAL AND NORTHERN FLORIDA. IN THE STATE,

WE HAVE EMPLOYEES IN THE STATE. >> AND THEN A COMMENT FOR THE BOARD. ABOUT THE CONTRACT. I THINK , NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, THIS IS A SITE THAT CAN BE USED EVEN IF FCC DOES NOT END UP WITH SUCCESSFUL NEGOTIATION, THERE WILL BE BENEFIT FOR THE COUNTY.

TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE SITE PLAN . THAT'S MY OPINION SO

THINK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DR.

HILSENBECK >> I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE 2024- 116, FCC ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES FLORIDA LLC REQUESTING SITE PLAN APPROVAL THROUGH PZA IN ACCORDANCE WITH 1987-01 TO ALLOW FOR INSTALLATION OF 72 UNMANNED OPEN AIR OUTDOOR COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS FUELING STATIONS AND EQUIPMENT FOR THE COMPANY OWN FLEET OF COMMERCIAL REFUSE VEHICLES LOCATED AT 3375

AGRICULTURAL CENTER DRIVE. >> MOTION FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU.

[2. ZVAR 2024-19 1033 CR 13 S Fence. Request for a Zoning Variance to Section 2.02.04.B.12 of the Land Development Code to allow for a fence height of six (6) feet along the front property line in lieu of the four (4) foot requirement, and to allow for a fence height of eight (8) feet along the side property lines in lieu of the six (6) foot requirement, specifically located at 1033 County Road 13 South.]

>> THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS. ON TO ITEM NUMBER

TWO. >> I DID A SITE VISIT AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH JODY AND HIS WIFE AND I HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL EMAILS IN OPPOSITION OF THIS. ARE DOING THESE TWO TOGETHER OR

SEPARATE? >> WE ARE GOING TO DO THEM

SEPARATELY. >> OKAY.

>> YES I DID A SITE VISIT AND I TALKED WITH A NEIGHBOR AND

RECEIVED THREE EMAILS. OKAY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M GOING TO REPRESENT MY AUNT AND UNCLE NEXT DOOR, MY UNCLES MOTHER HAS CANCER AND SHE WENT TO EMERGENCY SITUATION SO WE HAD TO TAKE HER TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM. MY NAME IS JODY HAMMONS, THAT'S MY WIFE , WHERE THE OWNERS OF 1033 COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH AND IN THE BUILDER OF 1033 AND I AM THE BUILDER OF 1025 COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH. SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE TRYING TO RAISE OUR FENCE ON THE LEFT SIDE AND THE RIGHT SIDE TO EIGHT FOOT. AS YOU CAN SEE BEFORE I PROCEED WE WENT WITHIN A FIVE MILE RADIUS OF OUR HOUSES TO THE LEFT AND TO THE RIGHT. THERE WAS EXACTLY 31 HOUSES THAT HAVE FENCES WITHIN THE 25 FOOT SETBACK OF SIX FOOT AND EIGHT FOOT AND NONE OF THEM HAVE VARIANCES. WHEN I WENT TO BUILD OUR HOUSE AND FENCE WE DID NOT CHECK INTO ANY REQUIREMENTS THROUGH THE FENCE BECAUSE WE SAW THESE FENCES SO WE PROCEEDED TO BUILD IT. UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE A CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET THAT COMPLAINED IT WAS GOING TO BLOCK THE VIEW , WHICH IN REFERENCE TO THAT, WE ARE BUILDING A TWO-STORY HOUSE ON THE WATER AND WE HAVE CLEARANCE APPROVAL TO BUILD A TWO-STORY HOUSE IN FRONT OF OUR OTHER HOUSE. BACK HOUSE IS A GARAGE HOUSE SO MY UNCLES HOUSE TO THE RIGHT BLOCKS OF YOU COMPLETELY COME OUR HOUSE TO THE LEFT IS GOING TO BLOCK THE VIEW COMPLETELY SO THERE'S GOING TO BE NO VIEW WHETHER WE DO FENCE IN THE FRONT OR NOT. THE OTHER ISSUE WE HAVE IS ON OUR PROPERTY WE HAVE A TWO FOOT , SIX DRAWBACK ON THE PROPERTY. AS YOU CAN SEE TO THE RIGHT OUR PROPERTY FROM THE BACK TO THE FRONT DROPS BACK TWO FEET AND SIX, SO AS YOU GET TO THE BACK OF THE FENCE IS GOING TO LOOK NINE FOOT FROM THEIR SITE BUT IT WILL BE EIGHT FOOT. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET THE FENCE TO BE EIGHT FOOT CONTINUOUS FROM THE LEFT SIDE TO THE RIGHT SIDE AND THE OTHER REASON IS WE HAVE THE EMPTY LOT NEXT TO US THAT DOES NOT HAVE NO TRESPASSING

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SIGNS SO WE HAVE NUMEROUS PEOPLE WHO COME FISH, LOITER ON THE LOT, PARKED VEHICLES AND WE'RE TRYING TO RAISE THE FENCE WHERE WE HAVE PRIVACY. TO THE RIGHT OF US AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE OTHER LOT WHERE MY UNCLES HOUSE IS, HE IS GOING TO BE OUR NEIGHBOR SO THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE WOULD RUN ON THE RIGHT, IT WOULD RUN ON THE LEFT. IT DROPS TWO FOOT -6, THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR TO THE RIGHT, HIS FENCE TO THE RIGHT OF MY UNCLES WHICH IS 1025 GOES FROM EIGHT FOOT TO NINE FOOT WITH NO VARIANCE. IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE LOT, OF MY LOT WITH THE EMPTY LOT TO THE LEFT THEY ALSO HAVE A FENCE THAT RUNS TO THE LEFT OF HERE. IN THIS SECTION. THERE FENCE GOES UP TO NINE FOOT THREE. THERE IS EXISTING FENCE TO THE LEFT AT NINE FOOT THREE, TO THE RIGHT TWO LOTS OVER THERE IS A FENCE AT NINE FOOT SO ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS DUE THE FENCE AT EIGHT FOOT AND THE REASON BEING OUR LOT DROPS TWO FOOT SIX SO WE CANNOT MAKE IT LEVEL IF WE DO THE BACK FENCE WILL BE FOUR FOOT. THE OTHER REASON FOR THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE THAT WE WANT TO RAISE THE FENCE IS WE HAVE A CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET. YOU CAN SEE THE LOT HERE, THE EMPTY LOT NEXT DOOR WITH A 30 INCH MOUNT IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE RUNNING 50 FEET ALONG THE FENCE, OUR LOT IS ONLY 85 FOOT, SO WE HAVE A FENCE THAT'S ONLY THREE FEET. WE HAVE TWO DOGS AT THREE FOOT AND THEY CAN JUMP THE FENCE EASILY SO WE ARE REQUESTING TO GO UP TO THE REGULAR HEIGHT TO SIX FOOT SO ONE, THE DOGS DON'T JUMP AND TWO PEOPLE FROM THE CHURCH DON'T COME PET AND OUR DOGS BITE THEM AND WE GET SUED. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WE'RE DOING IT BECAUSE THE MOUND RAISES 30 INCHES UP SO WE HAVE TO MAKE IT UP ON THE GRADE TO GO TALLER TO SIX FOOT RIGHT NOW IT IS FOUR FOOT. THIS IS THE VIEW AS YOU CAN SEE, CAN YOU SEE OUR MOUNT? THE FENCE IS ONLY TWO FOOT TALL. IF YOU SEE THE EXISTING POST , THAT IS GOING TO BE THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE. SO IT'S ONLY GOING UP TWO FOOT MORE SO WE ARE ONLY DOING THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A MOUND GONE UP 30 INCHES AND RETURNED A LEVEL SO THE PETS DO NOT JUMP OVER THE FENCE. THIS IS WHAT THE FENCE WOULD LOOK LIKE. WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS. THE GATE WOULD BE A DOUBLE GATE WITH SLATS GOING LEFT TO RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW THE CODE ON THE GATES. DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE HEIGHT IS BECAUSE ALL THE GATES ARE OVER SIX FOOT WITHIN A 25 FOOT SETBACK. YOUR FENCE CAN GO TO SIX FOOT BUT YOUR GATE CAN GO 6 TO 8 FOOT, I DON'T KNOW THAT RULE. SO THIS IS WHAT WE WANT THE FENCE TO LOOK LIKE. THIS IS HOW IT LOOKS NOW. YOU CAN SEE IT STEPS DOWN, THAT'S THE OTHER OPTION . WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO DOING THE SIDE WITH A LATTICE AT THE TOP SO THEY CAN SEE THROUGH IT, BUT LIKE I SAID WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT FOR THE GREAT. THE OTHER NEIGHBORS TO THE LEFT AND TO THE RIGHT DO NOT HAVE A VARIANCE AND THERE AT NINE FOOT SIX SO WE'RE TRYING TO GO EIGHT FOOT.

>> I'M SURE WE HAVE QUESTIONS. DR. HILSENBECK

>> SO THE MOUND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A DRAIN FIELD?

>> YES SIR. >> IF YOU BUILD A SECOND HOUSE IN FRONT OF EXISTING DOES NOT HAVE TO BE EXPANDED?

>> NO SIR, WE DID OUR CLEARANCE SHEET AND SEPTIC SIZE FOR THE

TWO PROPERTIES. >> WHAT SORT OF DOGS DO YOU

HAVE? >> A DOBERMAN LAB WHO IS VERY TALL. AND WE HAVE A GOLDEN RETRIEVER.

>> OKAY. I CAN SEE HOW THEY WOULD JUMP THAT.

>> MY LACK ONE WHO IS SEVEN YEARS OLD, YES HE CAN JUMP EASILY. IS VERY NICE AND FRIENDLY. HE COMES OUT THE WRONG WAY BUT PEOPLE FROM THE CHURCH TO COME OVER TO THE LOT AND I DON'T WANT TO RISK HE MIGHT JUMP AND ALSO I KNOW IT'S NOT A HARDSHIP BUT IF MY DOGS WERE TO JUMP AND EVERYBODY DOES SPEED ON THE ROAD AND THEY GOT HIT , KIND OF DEVASTATING. THAT'S THE MAIN

REASON. >> A SIX FOOT FENCE ON THE SIDE STEPPED UP TO SIX FEET WOULD THAT BE ENOUGH TO STOP TRESPASSERS COMING OVER FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY TO THE

SOUTH? >> THERE'S NOBODY COMING ON THE LOT BUT WE TRY TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE. SIX FOOT IN THE BACK, NINE FOOT FROM THE GRADE ON THE BACKSIDE BASICALLY. WE'RE TRYING TO SAY AT THE HIGHEST POINT IF YOU LOOK AT THE POST NOW THAT'S THE HIGHEST POINT OF MY FENCE. TECHNICALLY ON THE FRONT IT'S NOT EIGHT-FOOT, ONLY IN THE BACK WITH THE LAST THREE

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SECTIONS WILL BE THAT HIGH. WE DON'T WANT A DRAMATIC DROP THAT SERVES NO PURPOSE AND DOESN'T LOOK GOOD. WE TRY TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE NOT LIKE A COMPOUND. LIKE A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. WE BOUGHT THIS AS OUR RETIREMENT HOME TO DO THE PROPERTY, MY UNCLE IS NEXT DOOR WITH A CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET, EMPTY LOT TO THE LEFT, WE DID NOT EXPECT TO HAVE WHAT WE ARE GETTING NOW. SO WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK PRESENTABLE.

>> OKAY APPRECIATE IT. >> ANY OF THE QUESTIONS? ANYONE

, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. NEXT DOOR TO YOUR UNCLE'S THERE IS A STAIRSTEP FENCE NOW STARTING AT

FOUR FEET? >> THE FRONT OF HIS PROPERTY WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE FOUR FOOT BUT NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE SHRUBBERY OVER FOUR FEET, HE HAS SIX BUSHES IN THE FROM THE GO 14 FOOT SO IT'S BLOCKING THE VIEW OF HIS HOUSE BUT HE GOES 25 FOOT AND THEN STARTS AT SIX AND THEN UP TO EIGHT AND STATES, THEN NINE AND DROPS DOWN 6 1/2.

>> IS A 66 FOOT ROAD EASEMENT THERE? 66 FOOT ROAD EASEMENT THERE . I AM LOOKING AT THE DRIVEWAY AND THE DRIVEWAY ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET A CAR OFF THE ROAD WITH THE WAY

THE GATE IS SET UP? >> THE GATE IS GOING TO SWING

IN. >> MY CONCERN YOU HAVE TRAFFIC RUNNING THE ROAD AND YOU WILL PULL OFF TO GO THROUGH THE GATE BUT YOU HAVE TO STOP MORE THAN LIKELY FOR THE GATE TO COMPLETELY OPEN. THE CONCERN IS AN ACCIDENT.

>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, HOUSES ALL ALONG

HAVE THE GATE. >> MOST OF THEM, I CAN SEE MOST WERE SENT BACK IN FRONT TO WHERE A CAR COULD PULL OFF THE

ROADWAY. >> MY TRUCK WILL PULL IN AT A ANGLE BUT WE WILL HAVE A REMOTE THAT WILL OPEN BEFORE YOU GET THERE. WE HAD THE LANDSCAPE, THE DRIVEWAY GUY CAME OUT THERE , HE MADE ME CHANGE IT. WE HAD TO ADD FIVE FOOT MORE TO EACH SIDE AND DEEPER OFF THE FENCE WE ADDED A LITTLE BIT BUT A NORMAL CAR CAN

PULL INTO THE DRIVEWAY. >> LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS 14 FEET

IN TOTAL. >> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A REMOTE, HAVE POWER OUT THERE SO IT WILL BE A REMOTE SO ANYBODY WHO COMES CAN CALL AHEAD OF TIME AND WE CAN LET THEM IN THE GATE.

AS IT IS NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT DO STOP ANYWAY TO LOOK AND WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID THAT A LITTLE BIT.

>> IS THERE UTILITY EASEMENT? >> THERE IS A BOX TO THE RIGHT , THAT'S WHERE THE POWER TIES INTO MY HOUSE AND MY UNCLES HOUSE, ON THE FLOOR IN BETWEEN THE LOTS.

>> THAT'S ALL. >> MR. GREENE.

>> A GOOD QUESTION I ASSUME THE SETBACK FOR THE GATE MAKES CODE?

>> THROUGH THE CHAIR INTO THE QUESTIONS, AP ASKED ABOUT THE GATE, GATES AND OTHER ON TOP OF FENCES ARE ABOUT TWO FEET SO HAVING SIX FEET IS FINE AT THAT POINT SET OF THE PROPERTY LINE.

>> I ASSUMED THERE WERE SOME COUNTY CODE. DISTANCE FROM ROAD

TO GATE. >> FOR A RESIDENTIAL LOT THAT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU WILL FIND, NOT IN THE AREA BUT IF I AM INCORRECT SOMEBODY FROM THE TECH TEAM MAY TRY.

>> YOUR CONCERN IS VALID. THAT WAS MY WIFE'S CONCERN AT FIRST.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE PUTTING IN THE REMOTE.

>> JUST CURIOUS FOR MY OWN BENEFIT , WHEN WE MAKE

DECISIONS. >> ME BEING THE BUILDER HAD TO

MAKE SURE. >> YES, I DO WANT TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT SO I WILL RESERVE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS FOR AFTERWARD. THE FENCE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE VACANT LOT , YOU SAID GOES UP TO NINE FEET. AND THE FENCE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF YOUR UNCLES HOUSE

ALSO GOES UP TO NINE FEET. >> YES MA'AM. SO, YOU'RE SORT OF TRYING TO BALANCE THE SIZES OF THE FENCE AND IT WAS THE NEIGHBOR WITH THE VACANT LOT THAT FILED THE LETTER OF

OPPOSITION TO THIS. >> YES, ORIGINALLY OPPOSITION WAS DONE BY A NEIGHBOR FIVE DOORS DOWN, THE PREACHER ACROSS

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THE STREET THEY CALLED COUNTY AND THE REPORT WAS WE ARE BLOCKING THEIR VIEW. WE HAVE SINCE THAT HAS HAPPENED THE CHURCH HAS REACHED OUT TO US AND WE HAVE MENDED FENCES AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE DOING IT. THEY ALSO DID NOT REALIZE WE WERE PUTTING ANOTHER HOUSE IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE. SO WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BLOCK ANYBODY'S VIEW, WE ARE TRYING TO DO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE. I DID NOT EXPECT THE MASSIVE MOUND WE GOT PUT IN AND THE GRADE DROPPING AND THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW ME TO RAISE THE GRADE BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT DRAINS OFF THE LOT SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND ALLOW TO WHAT I'M TRIMMING THE FENCE LOOK LIKE, BUT I WANT TO

MAKE IT NICE AT THE SAME TIME. >> I SEE THE LOCATION OF SEPTIC IS A HARDSHIP. IS YOUR UNCLES OF SEPTIC THE SAME?

>> YES, HE WILL HAVE A 10 FOOT APRON IN THE FRONT AND THEN WE HAVE A CLEARANCE FOR HALF A CIRCLE OR DRIVEWAY AND THE MOUND WILL BE IN THE VERY FRONT OF THE DRIVEWAY SO HE WILL HAVE THE SAME ISSUE. THE DRAIN FIELD IS GOING TO BE, IS SEPTIC WILL BE ON THE LEFT SIDE TO WHERE IT IS AFFECTING THE FENCE, AS WELL.

>> OKAY THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT IF THERE

IS ANY. >> WE WILL MOVE ON PUBLIC COMMENT, ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS TWO AND THREE PLEASE

COME FORWARD. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS DIANE WILSON. I LIVE AT 1297 COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH, THIS IS A TERRIBLE WAY TO MEET A NEIGHBOR, BUT WELCOME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I AM HERE TO SPEAK AS A CONCERNED NEIGHBOR AND AMBASSADOR OF PRESERVING THE RURAL COMMUNITY AND SCENIC COUNTY ROAD 13. MANY NEIGHBORS PROTECT THEIR PETS AND THE PROPERTY WITHOUT NEEDING AN EXTRA TWO FOOT VARIANCE. I UNDERSTAND THE MOUND ALL OF US HAVE AND WE PUT OUR FENCE AND I HAVE A DOG, WE PUT THE FENCE PASSED , THE FENCE IS PASSED THE MOUND. SO THE MOUND DOES NOT BECOME ISSUE AND ALMOST EVERY LOT AS THE TWO FOOT GRADE THAT'S WHY THE HOUSE NORTH OF 1025 , YOU CAN SEE THE GRADUATION MAYBE HE IS NINE BUT HIS STEPS DOWN GETTING DOWN. AND TO THE FRONT. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SAYS TO PRESERVE HISTORIC QUALITIES OF COUNTY ROAD 13 MORAN'S AGAINST VISUAL DISTRACTIONS SUCH AS LARGE STANCHIONS AND STRUCTURES, EMPHASIZES PUBLIC SAFETY AND AESTHETIC VALUE. THIS VARIANCE IS A CONFLICT WITH SURROUNDING AREA AND THE AESTHETICS. THIS VARIANCE SHOULD BE DENIED DUE TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN CONFLICT WITH AESTHETICS AND SCENIC ESTABLISHMENT OF COUNTY ROAD 13. HAVE A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF SOME NEIGHBORS THAT WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH. AM I IN THE RIGHT PLACE TO GIVE THIS? TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING SIMILAR WITHOUT THE HUGE OBSTRUCTION AND STAYING WITHIN THE CODE. THESE WERE RECENT BUILDS IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND BOTH OF THESE ARE NORTH OF THE SAID PROPERTY. THIS IS AT 1001 AND HERE IS A PICTURE. CONFLICTS WITH THE AESTHETIC AND SCENIC PROTECTION OF ESTABLISHED COUNTY ROAD 13, FAILS TO ALIGN WITH THE INTENT AND CHARACTER OF THE SCENIC TRAIL AND ADDS VISUAL DISTRACTION CONFLICTING WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION. MY REQUEST WOULD BE TO DENY THE ADDITIONAL TWO FOOT VARIANCE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS TERESA BLAIS AND I AM THE OWNER OF THE RIVERFRONT LOT ON 1037 COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH. AND THE PROPOSED ZONING VARIANCE FOR A EIGHT FOOT FENCE WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY OBSTRUCT OUR VIEW OF THE RIVER RATHER THAN A SIX FOOT FENCE. OUR RIVERFRONT IS ONLY 80 FEET WIDE. AND THE FENCE WOULD POTENTIALLY MAKE THE LOT FEEL MORE CONSTRICTED AND OUR

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VIEW WOULD BE GREATLY HAMPERED , FROM THE RIVER AND THE SKY AND ALSO IT WOULD AFFECT PROPERTY VALUE IMMENSELY. THE WILLIAM BARR TRIM SCENIC HIGHWAY TRAVELS 17 MILES ALONG THE ST. JOHN RIVER AND IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE NAME OF WILLIAM BARTRAM WHO WROTE THE BOOK TRAVELS ABOUT HIS TRAVES IN THE 1700S AT THAT ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO TRAVEL TO FLORIDA AND WE HAVE OWNED THE PROPERTY 50 YEARS , IN MY FAMILY AND I NOTICE PEOPLE WALKING, RIDING BIKES AND MOTORCYCLES ON THE HIGHWAY AND A 240 FOOT WOODEN FENCE WOULD GREATLY IMPACT THE SCENIC NATURE OF THE AREA. AND ALSO OF RIVERDALE. SO, I THINK A SIX-FOOT SENSE ON THE SIDE AND A FOUR FOOT FENCE IN THE FRONT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO PROVIDE SECURITY , AS WELL AS YOU KNOW PROVIDE SCENERY FOR THE SCENIC HIGHWAY. SO I AM OPPOSED TO THE ZONING VARIANCE. THANK

YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE

ELSE? >> GOOD MORNING OR AFTERNOON THIS IS MY. CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATES. THIS IS THE ONGOING DILEMMA THAT HAPPENS. LOOKED DOWN AT THE BEACH HOW THE OLDER HOUSES ARE SET BACK SO THEY CAN SEE THE BEACH. WHEN THE ROADS CUT THROUGH AND PROPERTY IS ON THE OTHER SIDE ON THE ACTUAL BEACHFRONT STARTED GOING UP BASED ON BLOCKING AND OBSCURING THE VIEWS , BUT IT IS THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY CAN BUILD IT, THEY CAN PUT IT UP AND MAKE IT OBSCURE BECAUSE PEOPLE BEHIND THEM DID NOT PAY WHAT THEY PAID TO BE THERE. SO THIS IS A QUESTION OF WHO IS RIGHT WHO IS WRONG WHERE CAN WE FIGURE IT OUT? IF THEY DO PUT UP A SIX FOOT FENCE WHAT IF THEY PLANTED TREES THAT GROW BIG TO HELP THE ENVIRONMENT, NOW THEY CAN SEE THROUGH THE TREES BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO BIG. SO IT IS THE NEVER-ENDING SAGA OF WHAT'S RIGHT OR WHAT'S WRONG. WE PLANTED THE TREES TO HELP THE WORLD, NOW IF THEY CANNOT SEE THROUGH THE TREES CAN THEY COME HERE AND GET THEM REQUESTED TO CUT DOWN SO THEY CAN'T SEE TO THE RIVER ANYMORE? SO IT IS, THIS IS A MORE DILEMMA IN THIS THAN FCC BECAUSE IT IS OUR PROPERTY. WE WANT TO RAISE UP BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN OR THIS TO HAPPEN. PLANT SOME TREES. SIMPLE THINGS, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT IS. THERE TOO SIMPLE TO BECOME TOO BUREAUCRATIC. THANK YOU. TO COME UP AND RESPOND? U LIKE -

>> THANK YOU. THERE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE CONFUSING COMMENTS GOING AROUND ON THE FENCE. CORRECT ME IF I AM INCORRECT, I TALKED WITH CHAD AND CODE ENFORCEMENT. THE SITE GOES OFF THE FINISHED GRADE OF YOUR HOUSE.

>> TO THE APPLICANT'S QUESTION THE FENCE CAN BE MEASURED TO THE ADJACENT GRADE WHERE THE FENCE IS PLACED, OFTENTIMES THAT'S TO

THE OUTSIDE. >> SO SAYING THE VIEW IS GOING TO BE LOCKED ON THE EMPTY LOT TO THE LEFT THE FENCE IS NINE FOOT THREE, I COULD PUT MY FENCE UP TWO FOOT HIGHER AND GO TO NINE FEET THREE BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING TO DO. I AM ALSO NOT GOING TO BLOCK THE VIEW, THE VIEW OF THE WATER STRAIGHT OUT.

EVERYBODY HAS FENCES SEE YOU CANNOT SEE TO THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT, IN REFERENCE TO THE VIEW OF THE SCENIC HIGHWAY THE ROAD THE DROPS, TWO FOOT SIX HIGHER AT THE ROAD, THE SIX FOOT FENCE IS NOT GOING TO IMPEDE THE VIEW OF THE WATER, YOU ARE STILL GOING TO SEE THE WATER. I COULD GO INTO NUMEROUS AREAS WITHIN THE HISTORICAL THAT THEY ARE REFERENCING, THERE'S 36 HOUSES THAT HAVE FENCES ALONG THE HISTORICAL ROUTE THAT DO NOT HAVE A VARIANCE THAT ARE WAY HIGHER THAN MINE. I'M NOT

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TRYING TO CREATE ISSUES, BUT IF I WANT TO STAY TO THE GRADE I COULD ACTUALLY GO HIGHER ON THE FENCES. THEY WOULD BE STAGGERED, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. I WANT TO STAY AT ONE HEIGHT. ALSO THE HARDSHIP WITH THE GROUND, THE SEPTIC, THE VIEW LIKE I SAID BEFORE IS GOING TO BE BLOCKED BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE APPROVAL TO BUILD A HOUSE IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE WHICH IS ALREADY BLOCKING THE VIEW AND MY UNCLE'S HOUSE TO THE RIGHT ALREADY BLOCKS THE VIEW SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

>> WE HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. I DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. THIS IS A HARD ONE BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND. I DROVE UP AND DOWN AND LOOKED ALL OVER.

I DID SEE SEVERAL HOUSES WITH WHAT LOOKED LIKE A BIG BARRICADE IN FROM THEM. I ALSO SAW HOUSES WITH A OPEN FENCE IN THE FRONT.

IS THERE REASON YOU DID NOT CONSIDER DOING A WROUGHT IRON FENCE IN THE FRONT THAT WOULD STILL GIVE YOU SECURITY BUT MORE OF A OPEN FEEL, LIKE YOU HAVE ON THE SCENIC HIGHWAY?

>> WE ARE TRYING TO STAY WITH A WOODEN VIEW TO USE WOOD. I DON'T LIKE METAL AND ALSO THE COST TO USE METAL IS DONE BY SOMEONE ELSE. I AM A BUILDER, I HAD MY GUYS DO IT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS DONE CORRECTLY WITHIN ZONING OF THE POSTS AND WE MOUNT TO THE POSTS IN CONCRETE SO IT DOES NOT GO ANYWHERE. THAT'S MY PREFERENCE. THE HOUSE IS A CEDAR LOOK WITH CEDAR TRIM SO WE LIKE THE WOOD FENCE BETTER. AS FAR AS A OPEN GATE, WE DID ENCLOSED FENCE IN REFERENCE TO THE DOGS SO PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO REGION.

JUST FOR SECURITY. >> WELL IT IS A PERSONAL CHOICE AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP YOUR PROPERTY HOW YOU WANT. WE ARE IN AMERICA AND EVERYBODY GETS TO DO WHAT THEY WANT BUT OF COURSE WE HAVE RULES FOR A REASON. WE DID SPEAK ABOUT POSSIBLY DOING A LATTICE AT THE TOP IN THE FRONT SO IT IS NOT SO FORTRESS LIKE. IS THAT A POSSIBILITY OR SOMETHING THAT

AESTHETICALLY DOES NOT APPEAL? >> IT'S NOT GOING TO MATCH WHAT WE DO BUT IT DOES NOT BLOCK THE VIEW FROM THE ROAD. SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO TO ACCOMMODATE, I RATHER DO A SLAT WITH A THREE INCH GAP IN BETWEEN SO THEY CAN SEE THE VIEW. I DID GET ON THE BIKE AND LOOK FROM THE ROAD AND MY FENCE HEIGHT DOES NOT BLOCK THE VIEW MY HOUSE BLOCKS THE VIEW.

>> NOBODY IS GUARANTEED A VIEW UNFORTUNATELY UNLESS YOU BUY THE HOUSE RIGHT ON THE LAKE. AND IT IS A SAD REALITY. I DO UNDERSTAND CHANGES HARD AND PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE IT. I APPRECIATE YOU MADE PEACE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET. I AM ALL ABOUT COMMUNICATION AND COMMUNITY. I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT BY MS. WILSON, AWKWARD TO ME SOMEBODY BUT I DO HOPE YOU MEET EACH OTHER. SHE IS ACTIVE, AND THE AREA AND HAS STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT PRESERVING CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO BECOME ACQUAINTED. ALL RIGHT IT SEEMS LIKE THE FRONT FENCE IS THE BIGGER ISSUE. THE APPEARANCE SEEMS TO BE TROUBLING SO LET'S HEAR WHAT THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE TO SAY.

>> THE AMOUNT , 30 INCHES HIGH? >> YES SIR.

>> 3 TO 1 SLOPE SO SEVEN FEET FROM THE FENCE?

>> YES. >> OKAY THANK YOU.

>> MR. LABANOWSKI. >> AS MISS SPIEGEL STATED, THIS IS A HARD ONE. SO HARD I DID FOUR DIFFERENT VISITS TO THE SITE BECAUSE IT IS A TOUGH ONE. AGAIN, I AM LOOKING AT SEVERAL WAYS, LOOKING AT THE HIGHWAY THAT'S THERE , COMPARING WITH EVERYTHING ELSE , YES YOU ARE RIGHT, FURTHER NORTH OF 16 YOU HAVE THAT GIANT FENCE , BUT THAT SETS BACK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN WHAT YOURS DOES. AGAIN, IT IS 25? OKAY. IT IS A TOUGH DECISION WE HAVE TO MAKE, THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY AND THAT'S WHY I DID SO MANY VISITS.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY BACK TO THE

AGENCY FOR MOTION. ANYONE? >> I WILL TAKE A SHOT AT IT. I HAVE SAID BEFORE AND I WILL SAY AGAIN. FENCES MAKE GREAT NUMBERS. MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING VARIANCE 2024- 19 AT 1033 COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH FENCE BASED ON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT AND SIX

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CONDITIONS. >> WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL IS THERE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND IT. ANY DISCUSSION? SURE, MISS

SPIEGEL. >> I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS IF THERE WAS A CONDITION THAT THE TOP TWO FEET NEEDED TO BE A SLAT LIKE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. I JUST THINK THE IDEA OF A STRAIGHT FENCING TO ME IS JUST JARRING AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BREAK IT UP AESTHETICALLY FOR PEOPLE DRIVING BY.

UNDERSTAND HE WANTS THE FENCE AND I CANNOT ARGUE AGAINST THAT, BUT FOR AESTHETICS I WOULD BE INCLINED TO APPROVE IF IT COULD

BE. >> I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BAD IDEA. HE IS SAYING THAT HE'S FINE WITH THAT CONDITION. IF THAT WERE TO BE AMENDED IN THE MOTION. I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. ON PAPER WHEN I LOOKED AT THE STAFF REPORT, IT DID NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME WHY BUT HAVING SEEN THE PICTURES AND YOUR JUSTIFICATION I THINK THERE IS NO REASON TO REQUIRE THAT. ANY

FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THE FENCE IS FOUR FOOT TALL THE WAY IT'S BUILT NOW WE'RE TALKING TWO ADDITIONAL FOOT ABOVE THAT WILL BE LATTICE OR WHATEVER IT

HAPPENS TO BE. OKAY THANK YOU. >> WE WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE

MOTION. >> OKAY LET'S GET IT ON RECORD.

WHAT STYLE YOU WANT TO ADD TO THE TOP. DO YOU MIND.

>> I DON'T MIND AT ALL, YOU'RE THE BUILDER, LET US KNOW.

>> I WOULD GO THREE INCHES , THREE JUST TO THE GAP OR FOUR.

THAT'S CODE ON STAIRS BUT I DON'T MIND GOING FOUR. TAKE IT FROM WHERE IT SAT NOW, FOUR INCHES LAY IT OUT TO THE TOP.

>> FENCE HEIGHT IN THE FRONT YARD WOULD BE FOUR FEET WITH A

TWO FOOT . >> BASICALLY YOU WOULD HAVE TWO FOOT WITH 16 INCHES BEING THE GAP. I AM GOOD WITH THAT.

>> THAT'S ACROSS THE FRONT? >> ACROSS THE PHONE ONLY.

>> I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO ADD HIS COMMENT.

>> I'M CONFIRMING FOR THE RECORD YOU ARE OKAY ON BOTH

PROPERTIES? >> I JUST WANT EVERYBODY HAPPY.

TRYING TO PROTECT WHAT WE BOUGHT AND IT IS OUR LAST HOUSE AND WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE. I DON'T MIND AMENDING.

>> MR. MATOVINA COMMENT? >> YEAH, I WILL NOT VOTE FOR THIS, I DON'T SEE THE HARDSHIP. I DON'T SEE WHY THE FENCE CAN BE SET BACK TO THE 25 FOOT LINE , IT'S DONE ALL THE TIME. IT WOULD BE ONE HECK OF A JUMP BY A DOG TO JUMP SEVEN FEET OVER THE TOP OF THE FENCE. NOT SAYING THEY CAN'T BUT ANYWAY I'M NOT

GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS. >> IS NOT GOING TO BE SEVEN

FOOT. >> I'M NOT DEBATING WITH YOU,

SIR. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH CONDITION AND SECOND ON THAT AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT THAT MOTION

[3. ZVAR 2024-20 1025 CR 13 S Fence. Request for a Zoning Variance to Section 2.02.04.B.12 of the Land Development Code to allow for a fence height of six (6) feet along the front property line in lieu of the four (4) foot requirement, and to allow for a fence height of eight (8) feet along the side property lines in lieu of the six (6) foot requirement, specifically located at 1025 County Road 13 South.]

PASSES 5-1. WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND IF I CAN GET A MOTION

ON ITEM NUMBER THREE . >> DO WE NEED TO DO EX PARTE OR

ITS THE SAME? >> IS THE SAME.

>> FOR THE RECORD WE WILL STIPULATE IT'S THE SAME UNLESS

ANYONE HAS ANYTHING DIFFERENT. >> YES, MOVE FOR APPROVAL ZONING VARIANCE 2024-20 AT 1025 COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH. FENCE BASED ON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT AND SIX CONDITIONS AND ONE EXTRA ONE PUT INTO THE RECORD BY THE PROPERTY OWNER .

>> OKAY MOTION FOR APPROVAL. I WILL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT THAT MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU AND HOPEFULLY YOUR AUNT GETS WELL SOON. ITEM

[4. SUPMAJ-2025-02 Funkadelic Food Shack (2COP). Request for a Special Use Permit, pursuant to Section 2.03.02 of the Land Development Code, to allow for the on-premise sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages under the State of Florida Type 2COP beverage license in connection with an existing restaurant, specifically located at 4225 A1A South within Commercial Highway Tourist (CHT) zoning.]

NUMBER FOUR ANY EX PARTE? >> NO.

>> WITH THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME FORWARD? MR. LABANOWSKI.

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>> I DID VISIT THE SITE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS AMANDA OSCAR. I RESIDE AT 5401, SECOND STREET 3200 WHICH IS ABOUT THREE MINUTES FROM FUNKADELIC FOOD SHACK WHICH I

CURRENTLY OWN AND OPERATE. >> COULD YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE

UP A LITTLE BIT? >> WE ARE LOCATED AT 4225 A1 A SOUTH OFF OF SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH. I AM HERE TODAY TO APPLY FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WHICH IN TURN WOULD LEAD TO TWO COP.

OUR CURRENT BUSINESS HOURS ARE TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY WITH TUESDAY AND SUNDAY BEING SHORTENED DAYS FROM 11:00 UNTIL 4:00 LEAD WEDNESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY 11:00 UNTIL 9:00 LEAD I HAVE INCLUDED A PHOTO OF THE BAR , WHICH IS HAND-PAINTED BY A LOCAL ARTIST HERE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE. HE GOES BY EAST MENTAL. FUNKADELIC FOOD , WE WERE ESTABLISHED IN 2013 ORIGINALLY AS A FOOD TRUCK. WE ARE EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE EXPANSION OF THE FIRST BRICK-AND-MORTAR WHICH IS 4225 A-1-A SOUTH. THE MISSION IS TO SERVE LOCALS AND TOURISTS GOURMET MEALS AT AN AFFORDABLE PRICE. WE PLAN TO BUILD ON THE FOUNDATION LAID BY THE PREVIOUS TENANTS IN THIS LOCATION WHICH WAS UPTIGHT TO OBTAIN SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO APPLY FOR THEIR LICENSE. NOW WE ARE FOLLOWING SUIT. WE WISH TO APPLY FOR THE SAME PERMIT TO ENSURE WE UTILIZE THE EXACT ESTABLISHED BAR SPACE OFFERING A FULL EXPERIENCE FOR GUESTS WHILE ADHERING TO LOCAL REGULATIONS. THIS IS A INSIDE SHOT OF OUR RESTAURANT. AS REQUESTED, I HAVE INCLUDED THE ZONING MAP, THE PARCEL ID 17549 1754900000 1754900000. ON THE TOP RIGHT OF THE SCREEN , I HAVE INCLUDED AN AREA WHERE IT SHOWS WE HAVE AMPLE PARKING TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE OCEAN GROVE RV RESORT OFFICE AND THIS IS THE RESTAURANT HERE. AGAIN, AS REQUESTED THE AERIAL MAP WHICH IS PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY. AGAIN, THE OCEAN GROVE RESORT , THIS IS OUR RESTAURANT. THERE WE GO. THIS IS OUR SITE PLAN, THIS IS THE INDOOR RESTAURANT SPACE. FORMALLY AS UPTIGHT AND THEN WE HAVE THE ENCLOSED PATIO AREA RIGHT HERE, ENCLOSED MEANING GATED . I CHOSE TO INCLUDE A FEW NEIGHBORING ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN JUST FEET OF OUR RESTAURANT THAT HAS CURRENT ALCOHOL ON SITE CONSUMPTION WHEREAS HURRICANE WINGS, CONNOLLY SURE GROVE AND WORLD-FAMOUS OASIS ALL HAVE A FULL BAR. AND, WE HAVE THE SEAFOOD KITCHEN, PURPLE KITCHEN AND WITH BEER AND WINE 450 FEET FROM OUR SPACE. NOT ON MY SLIDES, BUT I CHOOSE OPT TO GET A PETITION FROM PATRONS THAT COME IN. THEY ARE EXPECTING TO HAVE A GLASS OF WINE OR A BEER BECAUSE AGAIN IT WAS THERE PREVIOUSLY. SO I ASKED THEM IF THEY WOULD BE SO KIND TO FILL OUT A PETITION SHOWING SUPPORT AND I COULD PUT THIS ON RECORD, IF YOU WOULD LIKE. THERE'S OVER 50 SIGNATURES. AND THEN LASTLY JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. AS WE ARE SUPER GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW AND REMAIN COMMITTED TO BEING A VIBRANT PART OF THE SAINT AUGUSTINE COMMUNITY. THIS IS PART OF OUR CREW AND THAT IS MY SON, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, ANY QUESTIONS? MR. LABANOWSKI.

>> JUST A QUICK QUESTION. THIS IS A GATED COMMUNITY RV PARK. IT IS ALSO OPEN TO OUTSIDERS IN THE AREA?

>> CORRECT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

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>> MR. MATOVINA? >> WHAT IS THAT ICE CREAM

CONCOCTION? >> IT'S DELICIOUS. HOUSE MADE BROWNIE WITH HOUSE MADE CARAMEL AND ICE CREAM AND A COWBOY

COOKIE ON TOP. >> SURE LOOKS GOOD.

>> I'VE GOT ONE FOR YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR. BACK TO THE

AGENCY FOR MOTION. MR. MATOVINA? >> WITH THAT CONCOCTION I WILL MAKE A MOTION. LOOKS LIKE IT GOES GREAT WITH BEER. TO PROVE 2022 , 20 2502 FUNKADELIC FOOD SHACK BASED ON EIGHT FINDINGS OF FACT AND THE LIVING CONDITIONS.

>> MOTION FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION?

REGISTERED THE VOTE. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR BUSINESS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[5. SUPMAJ-2025-04 Pecan Craft Kitchen (4COP/SFS). Request for a Special Use Permit, pursuant to Section 2.03.02 of the Land Development Code, to allow for the on-site sale and consumption of Alcoholic Beverages in conjunction with a State of Florida Type 4COP/SFS beverage license in connection with a proposed restaurant located in Commercial Intensive (CI) zoning and specifically located at 138 State Road 13 North.]

>> ITEM NUMBER FIVE, ANY EX PARTE? GO AHEAD DR. HILSENBECK.

>> I SPOKE WITH MR. MCINERNEY OUT IN THE LOBBY AND HE MENTIONED HE WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AND HE MENTIONED A LARGE TREE IN THE PROPERTY THAT IS APPARENTLY GOING TO REMAIN AS WELL AS TWO BY THE ROAD. THAT'S THE ONLY EX PARTE THAT I HAVE SO

I HOPE YOU CAN VERIFY. >> YES.

>> MR. LABANOWSKI. >> I DID VISIT THE SITE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS OWNERS AND I HAVE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING . FIRST OF ALL THE CONCEPT WE ARE CREATING FOR THE SITE IS A NEW CONCEPT THAT MY PARTNER AND I CREATED . WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY IN NORTHERN ST. JOHN'S . WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS SPECIAL USE PERMIT 4 COP. AT THE CURRENT LOCATION WE ARE RIGHT ON STATE ROAD 13. JUST TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF OUR PROPERTY IS COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY AND JUST TO OUR SOUTH IS TWO BIG RETAIL DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE A NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS THAT SERVE BEER, WINE AND ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES. A LIST OF THE DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS AND JUST ACROSS FROM THAT THERE IS A PLETHORA OF RESTAURANTS. SO AT THE INTERSECTION OF STATE ROAD 13 AND THE RACE TRACK. ALSO WE ARE CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL WHICH ALLOWS FOR THE RESTAURANT. I KNOW FOR THE LIQUOR LICENSE, YOU CANNOT HAVE A SCHOOL OR CHURCH NEARBY, WHICH BY THE PICTURE THERE IS NO SCHOOL OR CHURCH NEAR. WHAT I WANT TO DO IS SHOW YOU WHAT WAS THERE. I KNOW COUPLE OF YOU MIGHT HAVE VISITED THE LOCATION. WE ALREADY STARTED CONSTRUCTION. TO GIVE YOU A VISUAL OF WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE WE TOOK OVER THE PROPERTY. THIS IS A LIQUOR STORE THAT WAS THERE. AT THAT TIME THEY SOLD BEER, WINE AND ALCOHOLIC AVERAGES. AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE CONDITION OF THE SITE, THE ASPHALT AND THE CONCRETE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THIS LOCATION WAS BUILT IN 1972. AS YOU CAN TELL IT WAS PRETTY MUCH RUN DOWN. THE ENTIRE SITE WHICH WE PLAN ON REDOING , THE LANDSCAPING PLAN. EVERYTHING WAS OVERGROWN . YOU CAN SEE BY THE TREES ALL OF THE HEDGES AND STUFF LIKE THAT WAS NOT MAINTAINED. THE BACK AREA WE VISITED THE LOCATION A NUMBER OF TIMES. THERE WAS HOMELESS PEOPLE IN THE BACK BECAUSE OF ALL THE BUSHES AND EVERYTHING SO WE ARE CLEARING OUT THE WHOLE SITE.

THERE ARE SOME DEAD TREES THERE , WE HAD A TREE ARBORIST COME OUT AND LOOK AT IT. THIS TREE WAS ABOUT TO FALL OVER AND TAKE DOWN POWER LINES. WE HAD THAT ALL REMOVED. THE VERY BACK AREA, AS YOU CAN TELL THE BACK END OF THE PROPERTY WAS OVERGROWN AND WE HAVE CLEARED OUT THE SPACE. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBOR AND HELPED HIM CLEAR OUT PART OF HIS PROPERTY TO CLEAN UP THE WHOLE AREA. SO THE CONCEPT WE ARE CREATING , WE WORKED WITH A LOCAL ARCHITECT, WE GAVE A COUPLE GUIDELINES AS

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FAR AS THE VISION. WE WANTED IT TO FIT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

FRUIT COVE IS KNOWN AS A CITRUS FARMING AREA. ONE THAT THEY HAVE TO TIE INTO THE OVERALL CONCEPT, THE LOOK AND FEEL WE'RE GOING FOR IS THE FARMHOUSE, MODERN FARMHOUSE WITH A LITTLE SOUTHERN CHARM TO IT. WE FEEL HE ACCOMPLISHED THAT. THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS ON THIS PICTURE , BECAUSE OF THE COST OF THE PROJECT WE ELIMNATED, BUT OVERALL EVERYTHING ELSE IS STAYING THE SAME. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OUTDOOR PATIO AREA .

SO WE HAVE A COVERED PATIO. WE WILL HAVE A PLAY AREA. THE WHOLE CONCEPT WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE IS A FAMILY-FRIENDLY ATMOSPHERE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME WITH THEIR KIDS. WE WILL HAVE A PLAY AREA WHERE PEOPLE CAN PLAY GAMES AND HANG OUT. INTERIOR DESIGN, WE ARE TRYING TO LOOK FOR A VERY COMFORTABLE AND INVITING ATMOSPHERE. WE WILL HAVE LOUNGE CHAIRS, WE HAVE HIGH TOP TABLES FOR PEOPLE TO RELAX. WE WILL BE USING A LOT OF NATURAL WOOD.

RECLAIMED WOOD TO GIVE IT THAT WARM AND INVITING FEEL. WE PLAN ON HAVING A CAP WALL . 45 TAPS . EVERYTHING FROM BEER AND WINE , WE WILL HAVE SOME MOCK TALES MAYBE EVEN SOME COLD BREW. THE OUTDOOR PATIO, AS YOU CAN SEE, COMFORTABLE AND INVITING ATMOSPHERE COMPARED TO WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE. HERE IS LANDSCAPING PLANTS, LANDSCAPING PLANS , AS YOU CAN SEE, SINCE WE ARE ON THE BARTRAM SCENIC HIGHWAY , WE HAVE TO PUT THE 30 FOOT SETBACK. WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE PLANTS AND TREES. THERE IS A LARGE OAK TREE THAT WILL REMAIN, THAT WAS A QUESTION SOMEONE HAD. WE FEEL THE LARGE OAK TREE REALLY FITS IN WITH THE OVERALL LOOK OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ESTABLISH. THE WHOLE SURROUNDING AREA OF THE PROPERTY , WE HAVE TO PLANT NEW TREES AND I THINK WE'RE REALLY GOING TO ENHANCE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

JUST TO KIND OF RECAP WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH WITH THIS RESTAURANT. MY PARTNER AND I WERE LOOKING FOR A RESTAURANT SIMILAR, THAT'S HEALTHY WITH A LOT OF FLAVORS, SOMETHING BETTER FOR YOU. WE HAVE HIRED A COUPLE OF CHEFS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND A COUPLE OF THEM WERE LOCAL IN THE MARKET THAT ARE WELL IN TUNE WITH THE DIFFERENT FARMERS. WE PLAN TO WORK WITH LOCAL FARMERS WHO GET SEASONAL PRODUCE TRYING TO FIND THE FRESHEST PRODUCE SO WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE RESTAURANT. THE OTHER THING IS WITH CHEFS, ONE OF THE CHEFS IS A NUTRITIONIST. SO WHAT SHE IS TRYING TO HELP DO, AS WE CREATED THE MENU, THE MENU IS , ALL THE MENU ITEMS ARE THINGS SHE HAS ESTABLISHED THAT SOME OF THE INGREDIENTS ARE BETTER FOR YOUR. SO SOMETHING WHERE OUR FOOD HAS LOTS OF FLAVOR , SOMEPLACE YOU CAN EAT DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND YOU KNOW YOU ARE PUTTING SOMETHING GOOD IN YOUR SYSTEM. IT ALSO CREATED THE MOCK COCKTAILS. THEY WILL BE USING A LOT OF THE NATURAL PRODUCE . A LOT OF GREAT FLAVORS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SPICE IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND MAYBE ADD SOME SPIRITS TO IT. SOME OF THE OTHER COCKTAILS WE HAVE CREATED , THEY WILL FIT IN WITH A LOT OF MENU ITEMS THAT KIND OF GO OR SHOULD GO VERY WELL WITH THE MENU ITEMS. AND THEN WE JUST FEEL THE OVERALL SUCCESS OF THIS CONCEPT, BY NOT ONLY HAVING THE FOOD , THE FLAVORFUL FOOD AND ALSO OUR SPIRITS GO HAND-IN-HAND AND WILL HELP THE SUCCESS OF THIS RESTAURANT. SO WITH THAT I AM OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS, MISS SPIEGEL ? >> SOUNDS GREAT, SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY NICE IDEA. I WISH YOU SUCCESS. I LOVE LOCALLY SOURCED.

I LOVE THE HEALTHY MENU, TO GO EAT SOMEWHERE AND NO THAT THEY THOUGHT ABOUT SOMETHING THEY WERE PUTTING IN IT, THAT'S BEYOND A DREAM FOR ME. I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT YOU WANT TO

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OFFER THE ALCOHOL. IT WAS SORT OF AN ACCENT. MY QUESTION IS, YOU SAY A LOT OF TREES HAVE GONE IN. YOU PUTTING IN ANY PECAN

TREES? >> NOT SURE IF WE WILL PUT IN AP COUNTRY BUT THERE IS A LARGE OAK TREE. WE ARE LOOKING AT HAVING PLANTS INSIDE THE RESTROOM ALSO. TALKING ABOUT MAYBE HAVING A FRUIT TREE INSIDE OF THE RESTAURANT TO KIND OF TIE IN

WITH THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. >> MIGHT BE KIND OF COOL TO HAVE

A PECAN TREE. >> WE DID LOOK AT THAT ACTUALLY.

I TALKED TO A NUMBER OF FARMERS WHO GROW PECAN TREES AND ONE ISSUE IS THEY GET VERY BIG. WE DID LOOK AT THAT.

>> I'M GLAD YOU THOUGHT OF IT. >> WE PLAN ON USING PECAN WOOD AS PART OF THE SMOKING PROCESS ON THE SHELVES.

>> OKAY THANK YOU. >> MR. LABANOWSKI.

>> THERE IS A GROUP OF TREES ON THE BACKSIDE OFF OF YOUR PROPERTY. I HOPE YOU ARE TAKING THE ROOTS GOING INTO YOUR PROPERTY, TAKING CARE SO IT DOES NOT DO DAMAGE TO THE LARGER TREES. THAT SOMETHING . THE LARGE TREE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING, IS THAT THE ONE AT THE END OF THE BUILDING NOW?

>> IT IS PLACED RIGHT HERE. >> THE VERY LARGE ONE.

>> ABSOLUTELY, YEAH. >> OKAY, THAT'S IT.

>> WE BROUGHT IN A ARBORIST BEFORE WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION.

WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL ELEMENTS. HAVING THIS BUILDING AND KEEPING THE STRUCTURE WAS ALSO TRYING TO KEEP AS MANY TREES AS WE COULD. SO YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WE HAVE DONE WE HAVE ALWAYS WORKED OUT FOR THE TREE. THAT WAS SUCH AN IMPORTANT THING , TRYING NOT TO GO DOWN TOO FAR TO GET THE ROOTS, THEY GO OUT 30 OR 40 FEET. SO WE HAVE TRIED TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND MAKE SURE THAT THINGS DAYS.

>> ALL RIGHT, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE? THANK YOU.

>> ONCE AGAIN JOE MCINERNEY 1005 BLACKBERRY LANE. I COME TO YOU AS THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE WILLIAM BARR TRIM SCENIC HIGHWAY AND I CAN TELL YOU AND THE APPLICANT WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY ENDORSE THIS PROJECT. WHAT A LOVELY PROJECT , A REAL ASSET TO THE SITTING HIGHWAY AND ASSET TO ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. AS A RETIRED ARCHITECT I HAVE TO SAY ONCE AGAIN ARCHITECTURE SAVES THE DAY. WHAT A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND A BEAUTIFUL CONCEPT. I WILL SAY I DID COUNT 52 PARKING SPACES AND IF YOU NEED 40 YOU MIGHT CONSIDER ELIMINATING A FEW, DO VALUE ENGINEERING AND ADD THOSE BACK. THEY ARE ALWAYS A BEAUTIFUL ENHANCEMENT. LOOK, THAT IS AN ASIDE. THE WILLIAM BARR TRIM SCENIC HIGHWAY DOES SUPPORT THE PROJECT AND WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GRANT THE APPLICATION HERE SO THAT THIS PROJECT CAN MOVE FORWARD FULL FORCE . I WILL SAY THAT I DID VISIT THE SITE. HERE IS THE TREE AND FOR ALL OF YOU WHO VISITED THE SITE YOU HAVE SEEN IT AND HOW GREAT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT THAT , YOU KNOW THEY SAW RIGHT AWAY THAT WAS A SPECIAL TREAT, THEY GOT THE ARBORIST INVOLVED, THEY WILL SAVE THE TREE AND MAKE THAT A MAJOR PART OF WHAT IT IS THEY'RE OFFERING TO THE PUBLIC. SO, I MEAN, I WAS 95% OF THE WAY TOWARD REALLY LOVING THIS PROJECT, NOW I AM 100% KNOWING THIS TREE IS BEING SAVED. SO, REALLY REALLY REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THEY DO HAVE A ARBORIST INVOLVED AND THE ROOTS AND THE SPREAD OF ROOTS IS IMPORTANT.

LOOK AT THE CROWN OF THAT TREE AND THERE COULD BE SOME SPECIAL TYPE OF PAPER THAT WOULD ALLOW DRAINAGE , PERHAPS AND JUST TO ASSURE THAT THE WITH OF THE ROOTS SYSTEM IS PROTECTED AND THIS TREE WILL SURVIVE. SO, I HOPE YOU WILL APPROVE WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR, THE WILLIAM BARR TRIM SCENIC HIGHWAY HOPES YOU WILL APPROVE WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR AND THANK YOU SO

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MUCH. >> ANYONE ELSE? WE ARE BACK TO

THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. >> I WILL DO IT.

>> ESTHER GREENE YOU'RE UP. >> MOTION TO APPROVE 2025- PECAN CRAFT KITCHEN BASED ON EIGHT FINDINGS OF FACT AND 11

CONDITIONS. >> MOTION FOR APPROVAL, THERE'S A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND GOOD LUCK IN YOUR RESTAURANT.

[6. NZVAR 2024-18 Sprouts Wall Signage @shops at SJ Parkway. Request for a Non-Zoning Variance to The Shoppes at St. Johns Parkway Planned Unit Development (ORD. 2016-39) to allow for proposed walls signs to exceed the maximum Advertising Display Area (ADA) prescribed, pursuant to Section 7.02.04.B.6 of the Land Development Code, located at 120 Shops Boulevard.]

CAN'T WAIT TO VISIT. ON ITEM NUMBER SIX ANY EX PARTE? MISS

SPIEGEL? >> YES MADAM CHAIR I DID A SITE

VISIT INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL. >> MR. LABANOWSKI.

>> I DID A SITE VISIT , AS WELL. >> ANYONE ELSE? APPLICANT ,

PLEASE COME FORWARD . >> HI. I WANT TO SAY YOU GUYS HAVE A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. I LOVE IT. SO, LET'S SEE. DO YOU

WANT ME TO START? >> GO AHEAD WHENEVER YOU ARE

READY. >> OKAY. SORRY. OKAY, THERE IT IS. MY NAME IS DESIGNING SIGNAGE FOR SPROUTS FARMERS MARKET AS YOU ARE AWARE.

SPROUTS FARMERS MARKET IS MORE THAN JUST A GROCERY STORE, IT IS A COMMUNITY CENTER AND BUSINESS THAT BRINGS FRESH, HEALTHY AND AFFORDABLE FOOD TO NEIGHBORS THAT IT SERVES, KNOWN FOR COMMITMENT TO NATURAL AND ORGANIC PRODUCTS SPROUTS PROMOTES WELLNESS AND SUSTAINABILITY WHILE SUPPORTING LOCAL ECONOMIES FOR JOBS, PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOCAL FARMERS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. THE PRESENCE OF SPROUTS CONTRIBUTES POSITIVELY BY OFFERING RESIDENTS A CONVENIENT AND TRUSTWORTHY SOURCE OF NUTRITIOUS FOOD, ENCOURAGING HEALTHY LIFESTYLES AND ALIGNING WITH COUNTY VALUES OF WELL-BEING AND ECONOMIC GROWTH. THE REQUESTED NON-ZONING VARIANCE THOUGH MINIMAL PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE IN ENSURING VISIBILITY AND ACCESSIBILITY TO RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S COMPETITIVE RETAIL ENVIRONMENT, CLEAR SIGNAGE HELPS IDENTIFY THE LOCATION AS A COMMUNITY RESOURCE, SUPPORTING FOOT TRAFFIC AND SAFE NAVIGATION. THIS MODEST ADJUSTMENT IN SIGNAGE ALLOWANCE WILL ENABLE SPROUTS TO CONTINUE FULFILLING ITS MISSION WHILE REMAINING A STRONG COMMUNITY PARTNER WITHIN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. SO WE ARE SEEKING APPROVAL FOR A NON-ZONING VARIANCE FROM THE LDC SECTION , TO ALLOW COMMUNITY SIGNAGE TO EXCEED 200 SQUARE FEET ALLOWANCE, AT 224.25 SQUARE FEET. JUSTIFICATION IS SITE-SPECIFIC, VISIBILITY NEEDS DUE TO SETBACK AND ROADWAY CONDITIONS. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED COMMERCIAL USE DOES NOT CONFLICT WITH CURRENT ZONING OR NEIGHBORHOOD LAND-USE. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED OFF OF CR 210 AND ST. JOHN'S PARKWAY AND THE ENTRANCE IS 610 FEET FROM CR 10. THE BUILDING PARKING LOT IS 150 ORIENTATION OF SIGN MAXIMIZES VISIBILITY FROM ROADWAYS. I NOTES TOO SMALL TO SEE. THAT'S THE LOCATION, THE CURRENT DESIGN THAT IS APPROVED AND INSTALLED AS THE PRIMARY SIGN WHICH IS 193.6 SQUARE FEET.