[1. Agriculture Advisory Board Discussion. On November 19, 2024, the Board directed staff to explore creating an advisory board of farmers regarding active agriculture lands in St. Johns County. Consistent with this directive, Staff will present a general framework for the Agriculture Advisory Board and potential options regarding its structure and scope of work. Staff will also seek further direction from the Board to identify the best approach.]

>> EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? OKAY THANK YOU. NOW BACK TO THE BOARD FOR AGENDA ITEM 1.

THIS IS LIKE MY FAVORITE ABOUT THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY AND HOW TO KEEP IT, SAVE IT, WORK WITH IT. HERE SHE GOES.

>> THIS HAS A PURPOSE, I SWEAR. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY. I AM PRISSY FLETCHER THAT IS MY MOM AND MY SISTER, BRING YOUR FAMILY TO WORK DAY. I AM A ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENT SINCE 2013 I AM A SOLO SCIENTIST FORMERLY THE COUNTY OF ROAD AGRICULTURAL AGENT NOW TEACHING AT THE UNIVERSITY AND HAVE HAD THE JOY OF VOLUNTEERING TIME TO SERVE AND ADVISE THE COUNTY ON HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY. SO WITH THAT . SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO CHAT WITH YOU ABOUT TODAY IS AGRICULTURE IN THE COUNTY, HOW WE STARTED, WHERE WE ARE, JUSTIFICATION AND NEED, POTENTIAL COMPOSITION OF HOW THIS COMMITTEE COULD FUNCTION IN ADDITION TO POTENTIAL OBJECTIVES. SO THE BEGINNING OF OUR BEAUTIFUL VEGETABLE PRODUCTION. MANY OF YOU IN THIS ROOM ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE TOWN OF HASTINGS IT IS OUR POTATO CAPITAL OF FLORIDA SINCE 1909. THOMAS HASTINGS WAS HENRY FLAGLER'S COUSIN SO WHEN HENRY FLAGLER WAS DEVELOPING THE RAILROAD AND BUILDING HIS HOTEL HE NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HIS GUST WITH FOOD, WE HAVE TO EAT, TRAVELING IS FUN BUT FOOD IS IMPORTANT. HE ESTABLISHED PRAIRIE GARDEN JUST UNDER 2000 ACRES NOW KNOWN AS THE TOWN OF

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HASTINGS. AS HE WAS GROWING VEGETABLES AND FRUITS, ONIONS, STRAWBERRIES FOR THE HOTEL, THE RAILROAD HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED SO THEY WERE ABLE TO SHIP A LOT OF VEGETABLES NORTH BECAUSE WE WERE LEARNING FLORIDA SERVED AS A GREAT LOCATION IN THE WINTER MONTHS TO PROVIDE PRODUCE TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY WHEN OTHER STATES ARE FREEZING COLD AND AS THEY WERE GROWING THEY ADDED IRISH POTATOES BECAUSE THEY WERE A BIG-MONEY CROP AT THE TIME AND WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT IT TURNED OUT TO BE THE IDEAL LOCATION TO GROW POTATOES AND WE'RE STILL DOING IT TO THIS DAY AND SEVERAL POTATO FARMERS ARE HERE IN THE ROOM WITH US CARRYING ON THE TRADITION. FLASH FORWARD TO THE PRESENT DAY WHAT ARE WE PRIMARILY PRODUCING? WE HAVE POTATOES, CHIP AND TABLE STOCK.

THAT'S WHERE MY SNACKS COME IN. I TEACH MY STUDENTS, I LOVE SHOW AND TELL. WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT CHIP POTATOES I AM TALKING ABOUT POTATO CHIPS, NOT A HUMAN NUTRITION PRESENTATION THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE. WHEN I TALK ABOUT TABLE STOCK TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU GET IN A BAG AT A GROCERY STORE THAT YOU WILL BAKE AND MASS, TABLE STOCK AND CHIPS. WE REPRESENT BOTH. DIPPING ON THE MARKET THEY HAVE DIFFERENT PRODUCTION METHODS. BECAUSE OF A PLETHORA OF BRASSICA, BRUSSELS SPROUTS, BROCCOLI, CAULIFLOWER, CABBAGE. OUR CLIMATE IS SUITABLE FOR A LOT OF ASIAN VEGETABLES WE HAVE INCREASED ACREAGE TO INCLUDE BOK CHOY, CABBAGE, RADISH, WE HAVE SNAP BE IN PRODUCTION. OUR GROWERS HAVE BEEN PRODUCING SNAP BEANS IN THE PAST FEW YEARS IN TIME FOR THANKSGIVING. WHEN YOU ARE BUYING GREEN BEANS A GOOD CHANCE THESE GUYS GREW THEM. IN ADDITION TO NON-VEGETABLES WE HAVE ABUNDANCE OF SOD AND GREEN CORN. ON THE SMALLER SCALE WE HAVE LETTUCE, PRIMARILY ROMAIN IN ADDITION TO THE CUT FLOWERS HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE SEEN THEM AVAILABLE AT YOUR FARMERS MARKETS AND WE HAVE ONE FORM WHO OPENED UP . CITRUS IS MAKING A COMEBACK. CITRUS GREEN HAS DEVASTATED THE INDUSTRY THAT NASTY BACTERIA SO AS THE ACREAGE IN SOUTH FLORIDA DECREASES SOME OF THE CITRUS IS MIGRATING NORTH SO THE COLD HARDY MANDARINS REALLY GAINING TRACTION HERE. CUCUMBERS, PUMPKINS, SQUASH, OTHER NIGHTSHADES LIKE PEPPERS AND TOMATOES AND WE HAVE A USDA CERTIFIED ORGANIC PRODUCTION. SO WHY DO WE NEED THE COMMITTEE? WE HAVE SEVERAL ADVISORY COMMITTEES THAT EXIST WITHIN THE COUNTY FOR TOURISM, FOR HISTORICAL AREAS, BUT WE ARE NOT REPRESENTING AGRICULTURE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP OF THE DISTRIBUTION OF FARMS WE HAVE A WIDE SWATH OF AGRICULTURAL LAND FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH AND PRIMARILY THE WEST SIDE OF THE COUNTY. WILL NOT SEE A LOT OF FARMS ON THE COAST BECAUSE IT IS SALTY. IF YOU TRY GROWING ANYTHING IN THE BEACH THERE'S ONLY SEA OATS FOR A REASON BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT. THE POINT IS WE HAVE 30 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WHERE FARMING IS ACTIVELY OCCURRING WITHIN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WHEN IT COMES TO ECONOMICS AND STATISTICS WE ARE IN THE TOP 10 FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA OF 67 COUNTIES WE ARE TOP 10 FOR THE ACREAGE AND CASH RECEIPTS FOR VEGETABLES AND MELON CROPS. EVEN THOUGH WE ARE IN THE BOTTOM 10 FOR LIVESTOCK WE ARE I BELIEVE SECOND IN THE STATE FOR THE EQUINE POPULATION. SIGNIFICANT HORSE POPULATION IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY THAT SHOULD HAVE ATTENTION. A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL COORDINATION, FARMERS WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU ALSO THIS COULD BE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT DIRECT VOICE. SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE HEARD FROM YOUR FARMERS BUT THIS COULD BE A WAY TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MAKING DECISIONS THAT PROTECT THEM BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF YOUR POLITICAL RELIGIOUS CULTURAL BELIEFS WE ALL HAVE TO EAT AT THE END OF THE DAY. WHAT OPTIONS DO THEY HAVE AT THIS MOMENT? WE HAVE THE AGRICULTURE ADVISORY COMMITTEE BUT THOSE MEETINGS ARE INTENDED FOR EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING NOT FOR AGRICULTURE POLICY. THE GROWERS HAVE THE GROWER EXCHANGE LIMITED TO STRICTLY POTATO FARMERS IN THE TRI-COUNTY AGRICULTURE AREA. WE HAVE THE PUTNAM FARM BUREAU BOARD WHAT YOU HAVE TO BE A MEMBER TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE HEADQUARTERS ARE LOCATED IN

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PUTNAM COUNTY. THERE IS NOT A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWERS TO DIRECTLY INTERACT WITH THE COUNTY. AFTER CHATTING WITH OUR FELLOW GROWERS ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE IDEAL, WE FELT IT WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE TO HAVE GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION SO THAT'S WHY I SHOWED YOU THE MAP TO MAKE SURE WE ARE REPRESENTING NEEDS BECAUSE WHAT GROWERS ARE DOING WITH ON THE NORTH END NEAR TO 10 AND 214 ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE SOUTH END OF THE COUNTY TOWARD HASTINGS, BUT WE SHOULD MAKE SURE WE REPRESENT ALL MAJOR CROPS WITH A RANGE OF GENERATIONS, MAKE SURE THERE ARE ALSO COMMERCIAL GROWERS, I COMMERCIALLY MEAN YOUR LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS UPON IT YOU'RE NOT A HOBBYIST. HAVE A DOZEN PEPPERS IN MY BACKYARD THAT DOES NOT QUALIFY WHATSOEVER. ALSO CONSIDERING THE SCALE, YOU CAN STILL OFF OF A COUPLE ACRES. WHEN YOU GO TO PUTNAM COUNTY AND COUNTY LINE PRODUCE THEIR DOING A FANTASTIC JOB ON A FEW ACRES SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THOUSANDS TO BE CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL. SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED COULD BE BALANCING DEVELOPMENT AND PROTECTION OF AGRICULTURAL LANDS AT THE PLEASURE OF COMING TO CHAT WITH YOU IN NOVEMBER TO TALK ABOUT THE PRESSURES WE ARE DEALING WITH OUT IN RURAL ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WITH THAT ENCROACHMENT. WITH THIS BEING FLOOD AWARENESS WEEK HOW APPROPRIATE? THAT IS SOMETHING ALL THE FARMERS SHARE IN THEIR CONCERNS, FLOODING AND WATERSHED DISTURBANCES, DEEP CREEK HAS BEEN VERY MUCH IMPACTED BY FALLING DEBRIS AND IS CAUSING ADDITIONAL FLOODING IN THOSE AREAS NOT ONLY AFFECTING FARMERS , BUT THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. WE COULD WORK ON AGRICULTURE SIGNAGE, A SINUSES TRACTOR CROSSINGS SO FOLKS ARE NOT SURPRISED WHEN THEY SEE THE SPREADERS TAKING UP 50 FEET WIDE OF SPACE AND NOT BE SURPRISED. AWARENESS AND PUBLICITY. DID ANYONE SEE THE FRITO-LAY SUPER BOWL AD THAT HAD THE FARMERS IN IT? THAT WAS AWESOME. SO, THANK BEN WELLS, HE SAID THAT TO ME AND I CIRCULATED IT TO THE COUNTER. THOSE OF YOU WHO DID NOT SEE IT, THE PARKERS WERE HIGHLIGHTED. THAT WAS IN THE COMMERCIAL WITH HER POTATOES TO SHOW THE GENERATIONS. THAT WAS A SUPER PROUD MOMENT FOR US TO SHARE WE ARE PART OF THAT FOOD SYSTEM AND I THINK IT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE ALL PROUD OF AND EXCITED ABOUT SO THOSE ARE REALLY POSITIVE THINGS WE CAN DO TO PROTECT AG BY MAKING FELLOW RESIDENTS AWARE OF THE GOOD THINGS THEY ARE DOING. ADDITIONALLY THERE IS INTEREST IN EXPANDING FFA. WE HAVE MANY ACADEMIES WITHIN PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM WHY DON'T WE HAVE ONE TIED TO AG OR HAVING A AG CERTIFICATE SUPPORTING SLOW FOODS EFFORTS, WE HAVE SLOW FOODS FIRST COAST ALL ABOUT HELPING PEOPLE BE AWARE OF LISTING GROWN LOCALLY AND LASTLY MAXIMIZING FOOD SECURITY. AS WE LEARN WITH RECENT HURRICANES THEY HAVE GAINED INTENSITY AND FREQUENCY, GOT FOR BID WHERE LANDLOCKED. SOMETHING I NEVER HEAR REGARDLESS OF HER KIN OR PANDEMIC WE HAD A GREAT SUPPLY CHAIN DISRUPTION. I NEVER FEARED BEING HUNGRY BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME OF AGRICULTURE PRODUCED IN THE COUNTY. A LOT OF RECIPES COME FROM CABBAGE AND POTATOES. A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE OUR BELLIES FULL. WITH THAT I WILL LET ADAM HAVE HIS MOMENT TO SHINE ON THE SLIDE.

>> THANK YOU. ADAM SACKLER DIRECTOR INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS. BRIEFLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE ACTION SIDE OF THE ADVISORY BOARD. AS YOU ARE AWARE SENATE BILL 110 THE RURAL RENAISSANCE BILL IS MOVING FORWARD AND IT IS A HUGE COMPREHENSIVE , I WOULD SAY INNOVATION BILL, WITH AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND IT IS EXPECTED TO MOVE QUICKLY THROUGH THE SENATE.

THERE ARE SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES AND THE SAME FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I KNOW COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST LAST SESSION MET WITH PRESIDENT ALBRIGHT AND DISCUSSED INCORPORATING AS A RURAL COMMUNITY HASTINGS GETTING BACK INTO SOME OF THE ECONOMIC INCENTIVE PROGRAMS THAT THE STATE HAS, AS PROGRAMS GET REVISED WE HAVE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY THAT THE BILL PROVIDES ST. JOHNS COUNTY WHICH WILL ALLOW ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO APPLY THROUGH A STUDY AND I APOLOGIZE, A LEGISLATIVE RESEARCH ARM OF THE LEGISLATURE. SO THEY'RE GOING TO DO A STUDY,

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THEY WILL LOOK AT HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE NEW RURAL COMMUNITIES AND GET A COMMUNITY LIKE HASTINGS BACK TO QUALIFY FOR SUCH PROGRAMS AND YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS, THAT IS INCLUDED, COMPREHENSIVE APPROACHES TO RURAL COMMUNITIES AND TRIALS, HISTORIC LAND, RURAL FARMS AND OTHER HISTORIC AREAS OF AGRICULTURE ARE ALSO IN THE BILL AND THOSE WERE THE CONVERSATIONS YOU HAD. I SEE THIS IS A MAJOR PROGRESS ON SOME OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY NEEDS AND IT IS GREAT TO SEE THAT. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT AGAIN, THERE WILL BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ADVISORY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DEVICE AND ALSO RESEARCH TO THE STATE LEGISLATIVE RESEARCH ARM IN ORDER TO ADVANCE THIS STAGE.

MOST LIKELY IF ADOPTED IT'S GOING TO TAKE EFFECT JULY 1 SO YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR WHEN THE STUDY IS DUE. IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ADVISORY COUNCIL, THEY HAVE A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF THEM FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS AFTER THAT. THE SECOND BULLET IS TO ASSIST THE COUNTY IN IDENTIFYING OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE RESILIENCY INFRASTRUCTURE, CRITICAL TO AGRICULTURE PRODUCTION. I KNOW MENTIONED EARLIER SOME OF THE WATER ISSUES IN THE AREA.

THERE'S ALWAYS QUESTION WHICH DIRECTION THE WATER FLOWS. I KNOW THERE ARE CONSTITUENTS WHO BRING UP DEEP CREEK. THOSE ARE ALL COMPLEX ISSUES, THIS BOARD COULD PLAY A ROLE IN ALL OF THOSE. FINALLY TO ASSIST THE COUNTY IN CULTIVATING HARDSHIP OPPORTUNITIES TO PRESERVE FARMS AND SECURE FUNDING TO PROMOTE AGRICULTURE AND INNOVATION PRODUCTION, MADAM CHAIR I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN PUSHING HEAVILY IN THE RURAL AND FAMILY PROTECTIONS PROGRAM THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND CONSUMER SERVICES , THE PROGRAM HAS BENEFITED GREATLY AS THE PROCESS MOVES FORWARD WITH THE APPLICATION. SO THERE ARE EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES THERE AND WE DO EXPECT THE STATE WILL CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THAT PROGRAM IN THE FUTURE. THAT CONCLUDES THE LEGISLATIVE SLIDE. I'M GOING TO TURN THIS BACK OVER FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> IN CONCLUSION, I WANT TO GIVE A QUICK THANK YOU TO CHRISTINE WILSON, REBECCA JONES AND BRIAN JONES FOR THEIR SUPPORT AND INPUT PUTTING THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER. WITH THAT PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR

LISTENING. >> WHAT A EXCELLENT EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. SHOULD WE GO? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? SPOT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR ENTERTAINING THIS LITTLE BRAINCHILD. WE STARTED TALKING TO GO HOW DO WE GIVE THE FARMERS IN THE A HYPER LOCAL AG COMMUNITY, A VOICE, NOT JUST THROUGH LEGISLATION OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY AND SOME MORE RESOURCES TO EXPLORE AND ALSO FOR THEM TO HAVE A VOICE ON THE IMPACT OF SOME OF THE LARGER DEVELOPMENTS ARE HAVING ON ACTIVE FARMINGORGANIZATIONS. I FOUND OUT AFTER THE FACT TALKING WITH THE GROWERS THAT WOULD'VE IMPACTED FOUR ACTIVE FARMS. WHEN WE ARE GETTING STAFF REPORTS MAKING THESE DECISIONS ON DEVELOPMENT WE SEE STUDIES ON THE TRAFFIC IMPACT AND SCHOOL CONCURRENCY AND DRAINAGE BUT WE DON'T HAVE INFORMATION ON HOW IT COULD IMPACT THESE ACTIVE OPERATIONS THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT TO THE ECONOMY IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. I LOVE WHERE THIS IS HEADED WITH A LOT OF POTENTIAL AND IT COULD BE A ASSET TO THE AG COMMUNITY AND THE COUNTY AS WELL. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU FOR WORKING WITH ME ON THIS. LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING

WITH THE PUBLIC THINKS. >> COMMISSIONER MURPHY. SO I MAYBE JUMPED THE GUN BUT WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS TO PUT THIS? I THINK IT IS A FANTASTIC IDEA, WELL OVERDUE.

>> IF THE BOARD APPROVES WE HAVE A LARGE GROUP OF FARMERS THAT ARE VERY HAPPY AND READY TO SERVE SO WHEN YOU'RE READY TO START NOMINATING I AM HERE TO HELP.

>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION. I WILL ASK THAT WHEN AGAIN. WHAT'S OUR

NEXT STEPS? WHAT DO WE DO NEXT? >> YOU WOULD NEED TO ESTABLISH A COMMITTEE AND FROM THERE WE GO THROUGH THE ORGANIZATION STRUCTURE HOW IT WOULD LOOK. IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION, PROVIDE THAT DIRECTION TO OCA, WE CAN WORK WITH ADMINISTRATION TO COME BACK WITH RESOLUTION AND THINGS NECESSARY TO ESTABLISH THE

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ADVISORY COMMITTEE. >> WHAT WOULD BE BETTER AD HOC OR ADVISORY AND WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?

>> AD HOC ARE TEMPORARY IN NATURE LIKE SPECIAL COMMITTEES SUCH AS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HIRING PROCESS SO THEY HAVE LIMITED SCOPE AND FOCUS FOR A LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME.

>> OKAY. >> ANYTHING?

>> I PREFER AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE WANT TO GO AWAY ANYTIME SOON.

>> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR? YOUR LIGHTS ARE ON. OKAY NOW PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> WE WILL NOW ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.

MAY BE SOME OF THOSE CHIPS. GOOD MORNING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS?

>> GOOD MORNING. 2 NORTH WHITNEY AVENUE BUSINESS OWNER . I SIT BACK AND WATCH THIS AND THIS IS VERY INSPIRING. FROM SOMEONE COMING FROM THE FOOD ASPECT AND RESTAURANTS I BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF INCENTIVE ON THE COMMITTEE, AS WELL. I BELIEVE THIS SHOULD BE SOMEONE REPRESENTING THE CULINARY SCENE, RESTAURANTS AND FOOD BECAUSE I KIND OF THINK ON BEHALF OF RESTAURANT OWNERS AND FOOD TRUCK OWNERS, WE WANT TO BE MORE , USED MORE LOCALLY PRODUCTS, SPECIALLY DOWN THE STREET IN HASTINGS GOING TO DO 10 AND COUNTY ROAD PROVISIONS. OR COUNTY LINE PRODUCE. BUT IT TENDS TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE. SO IF WE CAN KIND OF WORK WITH FARMERS AND FARM POSITIONS AND BE ON THE COMMITTEE TO SEE ABOUT GETTING SOME INCENTIVE FOR LOCAL RESTAURANTS AND LOCAL FOOD APPARATUSES TO GET SOME INCENTIVES. IF THAT MEANS HOSTING EVENTS ON FARMER LANDS WERE GETTING SOME DISCOUNTED RATES ON ITEMS , WE WOULD LOVE TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE IT IS GOOD TO SAY FARM TO TABLE, LOCAL. BUT WHEN YOU GET UP TO THE COST OF IT ESPECIALLY NOW WHERE WE ARE IN THE ECONOMY WITH THE COST OF AGRICULTURE WHEN FRUITS AND VEGETABLES I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. I LOVE THE PRESENTATION. THAT WAS A GREAT INTEREST PRESENTATION. VERY INTRIGUED AND IT GOT ALL THE BULLET POINTS, BUT I THINK WE CAN TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER AND ADD A LITTLE BIT OF WOOD BECAUSE SAINT AUGUSTINE AND WE TALK ABOUT FLAGLER HOTEL AND HE OWNED HOTEL AND A RESTAURANT IN THE HOTEL AT THAT HOTEL AND HE WAS VERY INVESTED INTO HIS RESTAURANT SCENE AND THAT WAS THE PURPOSE. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA IF WE CAN INCORPORATE FARMERS, SOME RESTAURANT OWNERS IN HELPING TO SHOWCASE AND HIGHLIGHT OUR LOCAL FARMERS AND LOCAL FOOD COMMUNITY BECAUSE , AND THE PRESERVATION OF FARMS. I WANT TO SAY THAT, IT IS A GREAT FEELING TO DRIVE DOWN TO SEVEN AND TO SEE TO THE LEFT OF YOU AND TO THE RIGHT OF YOU OUR FARMS. IT IS THERAPEUTIC. IF YOU TAKE THE DRIVE FROM DOWNTOWN SAINT AUGUSTINE GOING TO PUTNAM COUNTY PLEASE LET'S PRESERVE FARMERS AND FARMS BECAUSE IT HELPS ON EVERYDAY STRESS. GOOD JOB.

>> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS JUDY SPIEGEL, 101 IN SAINT AUGUSTINE THIS IS GLORIOUS I LOVE IT. COMMUNITY, OPEN ARMS AND EMBRACING EVERYBODY. WE ALL WORK TOGETHER, A BIG PART OF MAKING THE COMMUNITY WORK. I HAVE THE HONOR OF GOING OUT AND MEETING WITH OTHER FARMERS AND TALKING ABOUT SOME DEVELOPMENTS COMING AND HOW THEY PERCEIVE. I HAD NO IDEA, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW AND WE TAKE FOR GRANTED THAT DRIVE ONTO A SEVEN AND SEEN FARMS AND YOU DON'T GET INTO THINKING ABOUT WHAT IS BEHIND THAT, WHAT'S THE INDUSTRY, WHAT DOES IT DO FOR US? WE HAVE THIS PICTURE IN THE MIND OF THIS ONE FAMILY OWNING THE LAND AND WE DON'T REALIZE THE IMMENSE BENEFIT AND IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE COUNTY. SO THIS IS HUGE. THIS IS A OPEN ARMS INCLUSIVE INFORMATION

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ELEVATING THE FARMS AS INDUSTRY AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE COUNTY. THIS IS SO IMPORTANT FOR BREAKING THE NARROW PARADIGM WE HAVE ABOUT WHERE THE FOOD COMES FROM. OUR KIDS CAN BE EDUCATED.

THE ADULTS CAN BE EDUCATED. I AM GETTING EDUCATED AND I WANT TO GO EDUCATE OTHER PEOPLE AND LET THEM KNOW. I LOVE THE IDEA OF WORKING ON WAYS TO KEEP GENERATIONAL FARMS IN THE FAMILY. THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE AND MAYBE KIDS ARE GETTING WEARY OF THE LIFESTYLE AND THEY SEE OTHER TEMPTATIONS AND WAYS TO LIVE AND MAYBE FINANCIALLY DOES NOT LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE LUCRATIVE FOR THEM SO ADVANTAGE IS BEING TAKEN AND MONEY IS BEING WAVED IN FRONT OF PEOPLE AND THEY ARE SHIFTING FOCUS FROM THIS STREAM OF GREAT PROVISION AND GREAT BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY TO THIS I'M GOING TO STEP OUT. I LIKE THE IDEA OF CREATIVE IDEAS. I KNOW THE STATE HAS DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT CAN BE USED TO HELP KEEP FARMS IN THE FAMILY AND WE CAN WORK TOWARD THAT. THIS IS SUPER WONDERFULLY EXCITING. I WISH I WAS A FARMER SO I COULD BE ON THE BOARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

>> HI MY NAME IS DALE JACKSON. WE CURRENTLY ABOUT 229 EAST NEW ENGLAND DRIVE, ELKTON, FLORIDA. WE ALSO HAVE A FAMILY FARM IN THE COUNTY AT 5580 COUNTY ROAD 305. I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE DEVASTATING EFFECT THAT SOME OF THE DECISIONS THIS BOARD CAN HAVE ON A FAMILY FARM. WE PUT ALL OF OUR LIFE, BLOOD AND ENERGY INTO OUR FARM AND THE COUNTY DECIDED TO PUT A BORROW PIT NEXT TO THE FARM. THE PROCESS OF HAVING THAT NEXT OUR PROPERTY, THEY BASICALLY DEWATERED THE LAND NEXT TO US OUR CATTLE HERD WAS EXPECTED TO BE 50 COWS AND SEVERAL BOWLS, WE ARE DOWN TO 10 COWS AT THIS POINT. I HAVE BEEN BACK AND FORTH WITH THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIVISION. I HAD SPOKEN WITH THEM IN THE PROCESS OF YEARS, THREE OR FOUR YEARS TRYING TO GET THEM TO BRING THIS FACILITY INTO COMPLIANCE . FINALLY IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR THE COUNTY MANAGEMENT GROWTH DIVISION WROTE THEM A LETTER STATING THE ENTIRE PIT WAS IN VIOLATION, IN OCTOBER. I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING ELSE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS PIT. WE BROUGHT THIS, MY WIFE AND MYSELF BROUGHT THIS BEFORE THE COUNTY COMMISSION. THEY PROMISED US THIS. YOU MADE CERTAIN THINGS JUST YOU TOLD US THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN AND WE NEED TO REIN IN THESE DEVELOPERS. I KNOW YOU GUYS NEED THE DIRT AND THE LAND TO BUILD TO BRING GOOD PEOPLE TO THE COUNTY BUT I'M TELLING YOU OUR FARM HAS ENDED, THEY TALK ABOUT THE NEED AND WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR, TO BE CLOSE TO 95 AND TO BUILD THE PIT WHILE OUR DREAM GOT WASHED AWAY IN THAT PROCESS. OUR DREAM OF OWNING LAND, TALKING ABOUT TWO POOR KIDS WHO GREW UP IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY OWNING NOTHING AND GIVING NOTHING, WE FOUGHT AND WE WORKED TO BUY THE LAND TO MAKE A FAMILY FARM TO HAVE A PLACE FOR CHILDREN TO BE IN IT HAS NOT TURNED INTO ANY OF THAT. OUR FARM CAME TO A STANDSTILL AND IF THERE ARE POSITIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS BOARD , I HAVE SERVED ON SEVERAL ST. JOHN'S COUNTY BOARDS FOR YOU GUYS DEALING WITH CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND I WOULD OFFER MYSELF TO THAT BOARD. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR WATERSHED AND THIS FARM. I KNOW I AM RUNNING OUT OF TIME AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR

TIME THIS MORNING. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> GOOD MORNING, CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATES. IT DOES SEEM LIKE THIS IS A GREAT COMMITTEE TO BE BROUGHT TOGETHER , BUT THAT'S ALSO , WHAT WOULD BE THE REPERCUSSIONS OF IT? IS IT BECAUSE OF THE AGRIHOOD THAT WAS GOING OVER THERE THAT GOT

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DENIED? LET'S ALMOST LIKE PLANNING FORWARD TO 209 CAN GO AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS CAN BE CONFORMED . OKAY? THAT IS A CONCERN BECAUSE WE KNOW 2209 IS LAID OUT, NOW IT MIGHT BE A SLIGHT SHIFT, LEFT TO RIGHT, MORE WEST , BUT THAT IS ONE OF THEM. THERE'S ALREADY THE WATERLILY ESTATES PUD, THEY BOUGHT 1000 ACRES , ROUGHLY 600 OR SO, 800 ACRES , ACTIVE FARM SOLD OUT SO WHAT IS ALREADY CLEARED SO IT WILL BE EASY TO START TO DEVELOP OUT THERE.

ANOTHER THING TALKING ABOUT IS THE WATER. SO, WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT GOING IN AND HOW THEY ARE DIVERTING THE WATER, DOES THAT MAKE, STARTING TO FLOOD AREAS THAT SHOULDN'T BE FLOODED? I'M NOT APPEAR TO TRY TO PICK OUT THE NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF IT, BUT IT SHOULD BE THE WHOLE ASPECT OF WHAT THIS COUNCIL MAY BE LOOKING AT. AS WE GO THROUGH, IT'S GOING TO BE WHERE IS THIS COUNCIL GOING? WHO IS ON IT? WHAT IS THE MAIN FOCUS AND NOT BE THE ONE WHERE WELL IF YOU CANNOT GROW ANYTHING WE WILL BUY FROM YOU AND START PLANNING FOR DEVELOPMENTS. ANYTHING SOUTH OF 208 IS MONEY RIGHT THERE. MONEY. 2209 IS THE MAIN CAPACITY , WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE PLANS WHERE IT MIGHT BE SHIFTED TO AND HOW MUCH PROPERTY MAY NOT BE UPFRONT, BUT IT IS THE LONG-TERM. ONCE IT STARTS FALLING, THERE'S NO REBUILDING IT . LIKE OUT IN HASTINGS .

REMEMBER SEEING IT WHEN THEY GIVE UP THEIR TOWNSHIP. THAT WAS VERY SAD. BECAUSE IT WAS COSTING TOO MUCH FOR THEM OUT THERE.

THEY HAD TO GIVE UP THE TOWNSHIP TO ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. THANK

YOU. >> OVERDUE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS FAST TRACK, COMMISSIONER ARNOLD THANK YOU FOR PUSHING THIS FORWARD. OUR FARMERS NEED TO BE REPRESENTED OUT HERE. IT HAS BEEN A LITTLE SLOW. HOPEFULLY THEY CAN BE REPRESENTED WITH THE NEW COMMISSION IF IT GOES THROUGH, BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PRODUCING, NOT ONLY FOR THE STATE, BUT FOR THE UNITED STATES AS A WHOLE, AND WHEN WE DO BETTER THAN MEN AS FAR AS POTATOES ARE CONCERNED. WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? MAYBE ACROSS THE RIVER PUT IN A NICE LAYS PLANT OVER THERE, CLOSER FOR THE FARMERS, HELP WITH THEIR PRODUCTION AND MAYBE WE NEED TO STOP LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENTS AND INCREASING FARMLAND IN SOUTHWEST PARTS OF THE COUNTY. MAYBE THE DEVELOPERS MIGHT WANT TO LEASE PROPERTY OUT TO THE FARMERS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> NICOLE CROSBY 1169 NECK ROAD.

LIKE ALMOST EVERYONE ELSE, THIS SOUNDS WONDERFUL, BUT I HAVE SOME CONCERNS AND THAT CAME TO THE FOREFRONT AS I WAS LISTENING TO THIS FARMER TELLING HIS NIGHTMARE STORY. I AM REMINDED OF THE FACT THAT TWO YEARS AGO, 112 OF US STATEWIDE WERE REMOVED FROM THE SOIL AND WATER BOARD AND REASONS LIST TO GET FARMERS A GREATER VOICE SO 100% AGRICULTURE WORKERS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FIVE FARMERS ON THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WATER BOARD AND WHEN THE LIST OF ORGANIZATIONS WENT UP REPRESENTING FARMERS, THE WATER BOARD WAS NOT EVEN ON THE LIST. I DON'T JUST WANT TO SEE ONE MORE BOARD OR ORGANIZATION FORMED THAT SOUNDS GREAT FOR THE FARMERS IT IS GOING TO BE MORE LIPSERVICE. THE NUMBER ONE THING WE FOUGHT FOR ON THE SOIL AND WATER BOARD FOR

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THE FARMERS WE DID NOT GET AND THAT WAS THE THING THEY WANTED, UNDERGROUND IRRIGATION. AT THE TIME I WAS ON THE BOARD 50% OF THEM HAD IT. UNDERGROUND IRRIGATION IS VERY VITAL TO FARMERS. IT IS VITAL TO ALL OF US BECAUSE WE ALL SAVE WATER, YOU USE LESS WATER IRRIGATING UNDERGROUND RATHER THAN OVERHEAD. BUT IT IS EXPENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THEM. SO WE TRIED TO GET I CAN REMEMBER NOW IT WAS $1 MILLION SO ALL THE FARMERS COULD HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE DID NOT GET IT. SO I HOPE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANOTHER FEEL-GOOD KIND OF MOVE THAT DOES NOT REALLY HAVE ANY PAY OFF AND I KIND OF HAVE MY CONCERNS ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO STOP THE REAL CAUSE OF LOSING FARMLAND , WHICH IS A FAMILY, THE NEXT GENERATION SAYING I DON'T REALLY WANT TO CARRY THIS ON I THINK I'M GOING TO SELL MY PROPERTY. AND IT BECOMES A DEVELOPMENT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES TO STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING. THE UNDERGROUND IRRIGATION THING IS ONE THING, BUT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS. IF THE BOARD FORMS THEN MAYBE IT HAS TO ADVOCATE TO THE STATE FOR STRONGER FINANCIAL INCENTIVES BECAUSE IF WE ARE GOING TO FEED HALF THE COUNTRY LIKE WE DO NOW, I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN JUST PR AND FEEL-GOOD STUFF. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES.

THAT'S MY TWO CENTS. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

ONE? >> GOOD MORNING, SHERRY BADGER, 2772 SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE. ONCE AGAIN WE ARE HERE, BACK WHEN WE HAD MATTHEW AND IRMA , THEY WERE DOING WHAT WATER RESCUES FROM 207. EVERYBODY SAYS IT'S NOT MY JOB TO CLEAN OUT DEEP CREEK. YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE ST. JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT. IT'S NOT MINE IT'S NOT MINE, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO FIGURE THIS OUT BECAUSE IF WE GET ANOTHER MATTHEW OR IRMA , GUESS WHAT, THE WHOLE FLAGLER STATES FLOODS. THE WHOLE FARMS FLOOD , THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO CLEAN THE CREEKS TOO IN PALATKA , EVEN ASKED ME TO CLEAN MY 7 1/2 ACRES OF CREEK BUT IT DID NOT GET DONE EITHER JUST LIKE ST. JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT CAN IMPROVE ANYTHING IT WANTS TO WITH DEVELOPMENT AND WATER USED FOR WATER PARKS, BUT YOU CANNOT TELL ME YOU CAN'T GO CLEAN A NAVIGABLE CREEK OUT? THE WHOLE POLITICAL SYSTEM HAS DROPPED THE BALL ON WE THE PEOPLE BECAUSE WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE ONES THAT FLOODING. THOSE FARMERS ARE FLOODING. THOSE POTATOES CAN YOU GET THAT MUCH WATER, GUESS WHAT, THEY WILL ROT IN THE GROUND. SO SOMEBODY NEEDS TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT, GOD BLESS.

>> THANK YOU. ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, SEEING THEM WILL MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> BACK TO THE BOARD, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

>> THANK YOU BUT I'M SURE. I WAS MOVED BY MR. JACKSON'S PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS WHY WE NEED THIS, THIS IS NOT PR, THIS IS SUBSTANTIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE FARMING COMMUNITY. WE HAD AN AGENDA ITEM A FEW YEARS AGO IN THE MIDDLE OF ELKTON SURROUNDED BY FARMLAND AND IT WAS A GOOD PROJECT, A GREAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY THAT WOULD'VE BROUGHT A LOT OF HIGH PAYING JOBS, IT WOULD'VE BROUGHT A LOT OF MONEY TO THE COUNTY COFFERS AND THE BOARD VOTED NO WITH A PROJECT BECAUSE DURING THE HEARING WE HAD FARMERS WHO HAD TO GET OFF THEIR TRACTORS WITH DIRT STILL UNDER THEIR FINGERNAILS, COME TO THE PODIUMS AND BEGGED US TO CONSIDER THE IMPACT THAT IT WOULD HAVE ON THE FARMS. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT, MR. JACKSON'S VOICE COULD OF BEEN HEARD AS PART OF THE STAFF REPORT AT THIS COMMITTEE EXISTED RELATED TO THE HIT WHICH IS NOW IMPACTING HIS LAND. I AM INCREDIBLY MOVED BY MR. JACKSON'S PUBLIC COMMENT AND BY THE FARMERS WHO TOOK TIME OUT OF FARMING THEIR LAND TO COME EDUCATE US. I'M NOT A FARMER, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD THINK IN THIS WILL GIVE A FORMAL WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH US AND I FULLY SUPPORT IT . I THINK HEARING THE VOICE OF FARMERS IS ON THE WE ALL WANT TO DO. I KNOW IT'S NOT PARTISAN OR POLITICAL,

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JUST SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER AS WE LOOK AT LAND-USE

ITEMS. >> I COMPLETELY AGREE. I JUST THINK MISSY SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN SOME CAPACITY. I THINK WE NEED FARMERS AND ADAM MAY BE GOING TO TALLAHASSEE TO TRY TO GET FUNDING. THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH PUSHING THAT FORWARD.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING.

>> SOMEONE WHO CAN ADVOCATE FOR THE GRANT SYSTEM THAT, WHAT'S

IT CALLED? THE RENAISSANCE . >> THE ROYAL RENAISSANCE BILL.

>> ROYAL RENAISSANCE BILL, THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE THE FARMERS DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO DO THAT. BUT THEN MISSY KNOWS EVERYONE SO SHE WOULD BE A GOOD CONTACT. MISSY? SORRY, I KNEW

THAT. >> WE ARE ACTIVELY RECRUITING TO JOIN THE COUNTY WORKFORCE TO BE OUR AGRICULTURAL POLICY ANALYST

IF SHE AGREES. >> OKAY GOOD, ANY MORE COMMENTS?

COMMISSIONER MURPHY. >> THANK YOU. STILL I AM LET'S GET THIS THING DONE KIND OF GUY, BUT ALSO ASSUMING IT WAS LIVED IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA OVER 50 YEARS, I AM , I AM ENCOURAGED BY PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE CAN COME SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT TO SAY. ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE LEARNED LIVING HERE AS LONG AS I HAVE AND KNOWING THE PEOPLE I KNOW IS THAT THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY. SO I LOVE THE IMPASSIONED PLEA OF A POOR RANCHER AND WHEN YOU LOOK YOU REALIZE THAT MIGHT NOT BE - ABOUT IT SO EVEN THOUGH I WAS MOVED WITH COMPASSION THERE'S ANOTHER SIDE, ANOTHER FAMILY, ANOTHER BUSINESS BEING IMPACTED BY THAT PLEA AND I THINK WE NEED TO GET THE FULL WEIGHT OF THE STORY BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD BASED ON THE IMPASSIONED PLEA BY SOMEONE WHO MAY HAVE AN ULTERIOR MOTIVE. SO I HAVE BEEN A LONGTIME AND YOU PROBABLY KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION THAN ANYBODY ELSE SITTING HERE SO LET'S BE CAREFUL HOW WE DO THIS. I THINK THIS AGENDA ITEM IS A GREAT IDEA AND I WOULD SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH

THAT, THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

>> THANK YOU, I WOULD ASK FOR CONSENSUS. I DON'T KNOW WE NEED A VOTE OR ANYTHING BUT TO MOVE FORWARD , TO ADVISE STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD LOOKING AT OPTIONS REGARDING THE ADVISORY BOARD REGARDING STRUCTURE AND SCOPE OF WORK AND COMPOSITION WITH MS.

FLETCHER AT THE HELM. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR.

>> I AGREE, INTERESTING COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT THE RESTAURANTS, FARM TO TABLE AND LOCAL. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT SOMETHING FARMERS ARE INTERESTED IN BUT I LOVE THE IDEA.

>> THAT IS A GREAT IDEA. WE ARE IN CONSENSUS, THERE WE GO. OFF TO YOU ALL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE BAG OF POTATOES.

[2. Motion to adopt Resolution 2025-________, approving the final plat for Secession Phase 1.]

AGENDA ITEM 1 A . THANK YOU FOR WAITING.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JUST BY WAY OF A LITTLE BACKGROUND. SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE A POWERPOINT. THE MAPS PROVIDE 1000 WORDS, THIS IS A MAP, HERE IS U.S. 1 SORRY OVER HERE THIS IS THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILROAD. THIS IS AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD NAMED EVAN SCHEIER AND HERE'S WATSON ROAD, THIS MAP IS FROM THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY ASSET INVENTORY THE ROADS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. SO WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE YELLOW LINES ARE COUNTY OWNED AND MAINTAINED ROADS. SO YOU CAN SEE WATSON ROAD OBVIOUSLY COUNTY OWNED AND MAINTAINED ABOUT AND STREETS WITHIN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE COUNTY OWNED AND MAINTAINED.

THE PROJECT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SUCCESSION IS THIS PROPERTY. THE IDEA WOULD BE TO COME IN ON A PUBLIC ROAD TO THIS PROPERTY WHICH IS SUBJECT TO THE PHASE 1 PLAT. SO ON THE PLAT , ON THE ADOPTION AND DEDICATION WHICH IS BASICALLY HOW YOU GO ABOUT SAYING THESE ROADS OR TRACKS WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE HOA OR THE COUNTY OR WHATEVER. IT SAYS THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY SHOWN ON THE PLAT , PLUS TRACK C RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR WATSON ROAD WIDENING WOULD BE DEDICATED TO ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. IF YOU TURN TO THIS MAP,

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THIS, THIS IS THE EXISTING WATSON ROAD WITH TRACK C RIGHT HERE. PHYSICALLY THIS WILL DEDICATE TO THE COUNTY THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR WIDENING OF WATSON ROAD ALL KNOW AS WE HAVE BEEN IN FOR A LONG TIME WATSON ROAD IS TOO NARROW IN ITS CURRENT CONFIGURATION. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING UTILITY IS OUT NOW INSTALLING NEW UTILITIES IN THE CORRIDOR SO THIS PLAT NOT ONLY SAYS THE INTERNAL STREETS WITHIN SUCCESSION WILL BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY, BUT ALSO DEDICATES TRACK C FOR THE WIDENING OF WATSON ROAD TO ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY. THAT'S WHY THE ADOPTION AND DEDICATION IS ON

THE FACE OF THE PLAT. >> WELL I GUESS DURING MY BRIEFING IT WAS BROUGHT UP AND I LEARNED FROM COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, IN THE VERY BEGINNING WE WERE SAYING WE WOULD NOT TAKE ANY MORE ROADS AND WE DID IN SILVERLEAF BECAUSE THEY WERE ATTACHED TO COUNTY ROADS ALREADY. MAYBE COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST CAN WEIGH IN ON THIS AND WHAT YOU

THINK. >> IT IS A CASE-BY-CASE SITUATION. I'M CERTAINLY NOT A FAN OF THE COUNTY TAKING ON MORE FINANCIAL BURDEN. DOES NOT OUR BURDEN IT IS THE TAXPAYER BURDEN. SO WE CAN KEEP THE NEW DEVELOPMENT ROADS PRIVATE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THAT I THINK THAT IS A GOOD POLICY, GENERALLY SPEAKING FOR THE COUNTY. SO, CLEARLY WE NEED RIGHT-OF-WAY ON WATSON ROAD THAT HAS TO BE DEDICATED TO THE COUNTY. I'M NOT SURE THIS EVERY SMITH ARE THE ROADS INTERNAL ROADS , WOULD THEY BE MAINTAINED AND PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYERS IS THAT WHAT WE

ARE LOOKING AT HERE? >> YES IT WOULD BE BECAUSE THESE WOULD BE TAXPAYERS OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY PAYING PROPERTY TAXES TO ASSIST THE COUNTY AND MAINTAINING THE ROADS.

>> HOW MANY UNITS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THIS WOULD BE BUILT BY RIGHT THIS DID NOT COME BEFORE THE BOARD BEFORE APPROVAL.

>> 99 IN SUCCESSION AS A WHOLE. >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH RESCUE ME ON THE SPOT THIS IS THE ONLY TIME I CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT I AM THINKING. I THINK IN SOME CASES COMMUNITIES CAN STAND UP HOA OR CDD AND PAY AND MAINTAIN THEIR OWN ROADS. I HAVE NOT DONE THE MATH, THIS IS ON THE SPOT IT SEEMS LIKE IT MIGHT BE A HEAVY BURDEN FOR 99 HOMES. WE HAD THE SITUATION ON 206 OR AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THEY HAD TO PAY FOR THEIR OWN PARK AND IT WAS SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT OF HOMES THEY LATER LEARNED IT WOULD BE SUCH A HEAVY FINANCIAL BURDEN THAT THE BOARD AND YOU WERE PART OF THE DECISION WE OVERTURNED WITH THEY WERE REQUIRED TO DO. I COULD BE WRONG, 99 HOMES CAN THEY FINANCIALLY SHOULDER THE BURDEN OF PAVING AND MAINTAINING AND DOING THE EXPENSE OF ROADWORK FOR THE INTERNAL ROADS? THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS UNLESS YOU HAVE A BETTER IDEA.

>> JUST WONDERING IS THIS CONTINUING LIKE ANOTHER SECTION

WILL BE BUILT OUT? >> YES MA'AM THAT'S WHY I SAID, ON THE PLAT, THIS IS PHASE 1, AND ON THE CONSTRUCTION EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE 99 HOMES. ALL 99 ARE NOT IN THE PHASE 1 PLAT. THERE WILL BE ANOTHER PHASE, PHASE 2. THE

ENTIRE COMMUNITY WILL BE 99. >> NOTHING MORE THAN 99?

>> NO MA'AM. IN THE PROPERTY IS ONLY SO BIG AND ONLY APPROVED , IT IS APPROVED AS MATTER OF RIGHT MEANING THE LAND-USE RESIDENTIAL B AND ZONING A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NOT PUD. THERE IS NO WAY TO ADD ON TO THE PROJECT EXCEPT TO REZONE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNED BY OTHERS.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR?

>> I AGREE FOR THE MOST PART I DON'T THINK THE COUNTY SHOULD BE TAKING ON ROADS. UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE IT IS ONLY 99 THAT WOULD BE CROSSED PROHIBITIVE FOR A NEIGHBOR THE

SIZE TO BE TO DO THAT. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION? DISTRICT

3? PUBLIC COMMENT? >> THANK YOU MANAGER. MOTION TO

ADOPT RESOLUTION 2025. >> TO THE CHAIR YOU WILL NEED

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> CAN WE DO THE MOTION AND THEN

PUBLIC COMMENT? GO AHEAD. >> APPROVING 2025 - 72 APPROVING

FINAL PLAT FOR PHASE 1. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE AND PUBLIC COMMENT?

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>> YES MA'AM PUBLIC, AGENDA ITEM 1 1A PLEASE.

>> UP BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE PULLED OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA AND HANDLED LIKE THIS? WHICH IS A DONE DEAL . IT REALLY CONCERNS ME SOMETIMES ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES BEFORE WE GET TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON. I KNOW YOU WILL PASS IT I AM AGAINST IT, LET THE LAWYERS AND DEVELOPERS START PAYING FOR EVERYTHING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON NOT JUST WHAT'S INSIDE, BUT YOU CANNOT GET INSIDE TO THE DEVELOPMENT MUST GO THROUGH MAIN ROADS WHICH WE THE TAXPAYERS HAVE TO PAY FOR.

YOU DID NOT START MY THREE MINUTES. DO YOU WANT TO HEAR SOME MORE FROM ME? I AM VERY VERY UPSET AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF ANYONE CAN SAY CHAIR , PULL THIS THING NOBODY ELSE BOTHERED SO DID ANYBODY ELSE GET TO TALK WITH THE LAWYER? WAS THE LAWYER ADVISED YOU BETTER SHOW UP? LAWYERS DON'T SHOW UP UNLESS THEY KNOW THEY WILL SIT HERE AND GET PAID. WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM AND I AM GOT ABOUT THAT, BUT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD ONE TO START LETTING OTHER DEVELOPERS AND BY RIGHT THEY CAN DO THIS, BY RIGHT YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT YOU CAN'T BECAUSE WE HAVE RULES AND THIS NEEDS TO STOP AND THIS WOULD BE A GOOD ONE TO STOP ON. CAN WE HAVE A 3-2 NO? 3-2 NO. I WON'T CALL OUT THE TWO. SOME OF YOU MIGHT SURPRISE ME. I THINK WE NEED TO STOP ON THIS THING AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES. WHAT IS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES? NOBODY CALLS ME AND TELLS ME WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT SO I CAN BE SURE TO SHOW UP. I'M GOING TO TAKE A DEEP BREATH. MAYBE TWO. I HAVE 1:34 LEFT. AND WE ARE HERE ALMOST TIME TO GO TO THE FOOD TRUCK. I DO APPRECIATE PUBLIC COMMENT. I DO I APPRECIATE THAT. I HOPE I GET SURPRISED BY THE VOTE BUT I'M NOT COUNTING ON IT. NO JOKING THIS NEEDS TO STOP. THIS NEEDS TO STOP, THEY NEED TO PAY FOR IT BECAUSE YOU CANNOT GET TOO MANY OF THE DEVELOPMENTS WITHOUT ME PAYING AND BELIEVE ME, I'M NOT GOING. I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH MONEY I HAVE I'M NOT GOING. I HAVE BEEN OVER THERE BACK IN THE DAY WORKING ON THE POTATOES. YOU WOULD NOT THINK IT WOULD YOU? I KNOW SOME

FARMERS. TAKE YOU FOR LISTENING. >> THANK YOU, ANYONE ELSE FOR

PUBLIC COMMENT? >> HELLO MY NAME IS JUDY SPIEGEL I LIVE ON 101 GREEN WILLOW LANE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM WATSON ROAD AND RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM SECESSION. THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD, MY NECK OF THE WOODS SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ME TO NOT MAKE MY OPINION ON. A LITTLE ANECDOTE, I AM ON THE BOARD FOR MY HOA AND HAVE BEEN FOR A LONG TIME. 2008 IS WHEN WE WERE APPROVED AND BUILT IN THE CITY OWNS OUR ROADS. WE ARE SMALL, ONLY 69 HOMES BUT IN THE TIME SINCE 2008 OUR ROADS HAVE NEVER NEEDED TO BE RESURFACED. WE HAD A COUPLE OF POTHOLES FILLED THE SO AS FAR AS EXPENSE GOES , IT IS MINIMUM TRAFFIC. CUL-DE-SAC LIKE WE HAVE NOT THROUGH WAYS AND STUFF. IT IS AN EXPENSE, BUT IS IT AN EXPENSE ACCOUNT HE NEEDS TO BE BURDENED WITH? I AM KIND OF AN AGREEMENT WITH BJ I DISAGREE THE COUNTY SHOULD PAY TO TAKE OVER THESE ROADS.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I DON'T KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT THAT, BUT I DO KNOW IN STRUCTURE AND ROADS ARE A HUGE HUGE BOONDOGGLE OF OUR BUDGET AND ADDING ANYTHING TO IT AT THIS POINT IS IRRESPONSIBLE. THAT'S MY OPINION, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

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CONDITION ON IT. I WOULD PUT A CONDITION THAT THE LETTER THEY PUT IN FOR THE ASPHALT IS A LOT THICKER FROM WHAT THEY PUT IN THE DEVELOPMENTS NOW. MARABELLA IS GOING THROUGH A LOT OF WORK COMING UP IN THE NEAR FUTURE WE ONLY BEEN AROUND SINCE 2005 WE WON'T HAVE HEAVY TRAFFIC AND ROADS ARE FALLING APART BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY OF THE ASPHALT BEING PUT IN AND THE THICKNESS BEING PUT IN PLACE IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE OVER THE ROADS, REQUIRE THE THICKNESS OF THE ASPHALT TO CHANGE. MAKE IT HEAVIER AND GOOD QUALITY ASPHALT. OTHER THAN THAT IF YOU DON'T I THINK YOU NEED TO TURN IT DOWN.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NON-WE

WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> BACK TO THE BOARD READY FOR

VOTE. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

>> CHUCK BUT UP AN INTERESTING POINT ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE ROAD GOING IN. I LIVE IN A HOA RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN ROADS.

WE ARE TO PUT OUR OWN ROADS IN BUT I'M ALSO EMPATHETIC TO THE ARGUMENT THAT COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST SAID ABOUT THE SMALL SIZE. I LOOK AT SAINT AUGUSTINE SOUTH AND SOUTH IS MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY. A LOT OF PLACES ARE MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY THAT SHOULDN'T BE. I THINK THIS IS ONE THAT PROBABLY SHOULD.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> BACK TO THE VOTE.

[2. Land Acquisition and Management Program Conservation Board Annual Property Ranking List for Consideration for Approval by the Board of County Commissioners. The Land Acquisition and Management Program (LAMP) Ordinance 2021-38 requires the LAMP Conservation Board to annually submit a Ranking List of the top five properties for consideration by the Board of County Commissioners (Board) for acquisition and conservation. The action for the Board today is to consider the LAMP Recommended Properties Ranking List and to approve the Ranking List as is, approve the Ranking List with modifications, or deny the Ranking List with explanation and guidance to the LAMP Conservation Board. Upon approval of the Ranking List, County staff will proceed with initiating purchasing negotiations with the property owners. Once staff has secured a purchase price on the properties, a Purchase and Sale Agreement will be brought back to the Board for review and potential approval of the purchasing funding.]

THAT PASSES 3-2 . WE'RE GOING TO THE LAMP LIST REPORT. AGENDA ITEM 2 .

>> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND LIAISON TO THE LAMP BOARD, ITEM NUMBER 2 LAMP WORD PRESENTATION 2024 PROPERTY RECOMMENDATION LIST FOR COMMISSION CONSIDERATION. WITH ME AS THE ESTEEMED CHAIR OF THE LAMP BOARD ELIZABETH GUTHRIE SERVING FOR THE THIRD STRAIGHT YEAR AS CHAIR. A COUPLE OF THINGS FROM THE LIST, YOU'LL SEE TWO NEW PROPERTIES WITH OTHERS BEING CARRIED FROM 2023. AS PROPERTIES ARE ACQUIRED THEY WILL BE ADDED TO A NEW INTERACTIVE MAP VIEWER ADDED TO THE LAMP WEBPAGE WITH STAFF WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES WITH GIS TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION AND I WILL BE POSTING THAT SOON TO THE WEBPAGE. IF YOU RECALL WE HAVE RECENT PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS THE 50 ACRE SALTMARSH NORTH OF STATE ROAD 312 ON ANASTASIA ISLAND AND SEVEN ACRE PROPERTY IN ELKTON.

SOON THE BAILEY RANCH LOTS WHICH ARE JUST HEARD A COUPLE MEETINGS DO WILL BE ACQUIRED SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO I WILL HAND IT OFF

TO ELIZABETH. >> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. GLAD TO BE BACK FOR PRESENTATION OF OUR LIST 2024 . THIS SLIDE IS INCLUDED FOR REFERENCE, AS MENTIONED WE HAVE SEVERAL CARRYOVERS FROM PREVIOUS YEARS.

YOU WILL NOTICE IN THE 2024 LIST WHICH IS NOW ON THE SCREEN WE HAVE SEVERAL PROPERTIES THAT I ROLLED OVER FROM LAST YEAR AND ONE PROPERTY THAT IS NEW TO THE PROGRAM, BUT THE TOP FIVE PROPERTIES ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN. AS A REMINDER THE CURRENT LAMP BUDGET BALANCE IS A LITTLE OVER $3 MILLION AND THIS DOES REFLECT RECENT FEBRUARY MEETING AND THE VALUE OF THE DAILY PARCELS. THIS IS AN ACCURATE BUDGET BALANCE. NUMBER ONE RING PROPERTY REMAINS NUMBER ONE RING PROPERTY FROM LAST YEAR. THIS IS SHORES BOULEVARD PROPERTY REFERRED TO AS , IT DOES REPRESENT A MY LOVE UNDEVELOPED COMMERCIAL FRONT ON THE RIVER.

IT IS ALSO COMPRISED OF PLATTED LOTS , 200 ACRES HERE FROM SAINT AUGUSTINE SHORES PUD. PROTECTION OF THIS PROPERTY WITH THOSE PARCELS BEING DEVELOPED AND WOULD OFFER GREAT RECREATIONAL AMENITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY HERE JUST NORTH OF THE MOSES CREEK CONSERVATION AREA. I WILL MENTION LAST YEAR AT THE RANKING MEETING THE COMMISSION DECIDED TO EARMARK $1 MILLION FOR THIS

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PARTICULAR PROPERTY TO HELP ASSIST WITH FEDERAL AND GRANT PROPOSALS AS A BATCH FUNDING SOURCE. THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS PROPERTY FROM A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS AND AGENCIES AND NORTH LAND TRUST IS ALSO BEEN ASSISTING. NUMBER TWO PROPERTY WAS ALSO NUMBER TWO FROM LAST YEAR. THIS ONE IS PROBABLY FAMILIAR TO ALL OF YOU AS IT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOTES TO ACQUIRE THE NORTHERN LOTS FOR THE STATE ROAD PROPERTY. AS YOU CAN SEE THIS PROPERTY IS COMPRISED OF TWO PHASES , THE NORTHERN PARCELS APPROVED FOR ACQUISITION SO THIS WOULD BE A FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE RECREATION TO THE CREEK WHILE THE SOUTHERN PORTION SOUTH OF MISSION ESTATES ROAD HAS BEEN PROPOSED FOR THE PROTECTION PROGRAM, STATE CONTRIBUTION PURCHASING PROGRAM . PROPERTY NUMBER THREE IS NEW TO THE LAMP PROGRAM, THIS IS CREEK U.S. 1 SOUTH PROPERTY 42 ACRES RIGHT ON THE CREEK. THIS PROPERTY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM OUR OTHER ACQUISITIONS IN THAT THE LAND OWNER IS SEEKING PURCHASE OF THE CONTRIBUTION EASEMENT INSTEAD OF A FEE ACQUISITION. IN THIS CASE THE COUNTY WOULD NOT BE PURCHASING THE TITLE OUT RIGHT, THEY WOULD BE PURCHASING DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ON THE PROPERTY. AS YOU CAN SEE IT WOULD MAINTAIN SOME FRONTAGE ON THE CREEK WHICH WOULD REMAIN RELATIVELY UNDEVELOPED IN PERPETUITY. THE FOURTH PROPERTY ON THE LIST IS HAWKINS ISLAND A 13 ACRE ISLAND WHICH IS FOREST MOSTLY MARITIME WITH THE MATANZAS RIVER IT IS AN ISLAND SO THERE IS NOT ACCESS CURRENTLY SO THIS WOULD BE PROPOSED AS PRESERVATION UNLESS THE COUNTY WANTED TO SEEK RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES WHICH WOULD BE AVAILABLE BY BOAT ACCESS ONLY.

LESLIE THE PROPERTY WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS COUNTY ROAD 13 NORTH OWNED BY THE FOREST GROUP OUR LARGEST PROPERTY ON THE LIST AT 457 ACRES COMPRISED MOSTLY OF PLANTED PINE AND MIXED HARDWOODS. YOU CAN SEE EXISTING HORSE WHO WROTE ON THE PROPERTY THAT DEVELOPED FOR PASSIVE RECREATION. THAT CONCLUDES MY

PORTION . >> AND QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER

WHITEHURST. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND MISSED COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST ARTISTIC PRESENTATION. DO YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH THE NUMBER ONE PARCEL? IS THAT A

QUESTION FOR STAFF? >> I WOULD DEFER TO STAFF ON THAT ONE WAS A LOT OF MOVING PARTS I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK.

>> WE ARE TRYING TO COBBLE TOGETHER FUND, IT IS A UNOFFICIAL BIRD SANCTUARY, THE DELTONA PROPERTY. GORGEOUS.

>> STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH NORTH FLORIDALAND TRUST AS WE STATED IN THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT FUNDING ORGANIZATIONS THROUGH DEP THE FLORIDA FOREVER PROGRAM SO I BELIEVE THE FUNDING IS BECOMING AVAILABLE, RANKED ON A LIST FOR THIS PROPERTY AND SO BASICALLY WHERE CONTINUING NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CURRENT

POVERTY OWNER. >> FANTASTIC. IS THERE STILL CONCERN ABOUT TIME? IT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE MEETING PREVIOUSLY THAT IF WE DID NOT ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME THAT DELTA INCORPORATION MAY FEEL COMPELLED TO MAKE THE MONEY THEY NEED TO MAKE TO DEVELOP IT WHAT CAN YOU

TELL ME? >> IT IS SORT OF AN UNKNOWN WOOD TIMING. EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL CONTEND. FOR THAT MATTER WE DO HAVE SOME APPLICATIONS IN FOR REVIEW. ONE APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY CONCURRENTLY. OBVIOUSLY STAFF HAS MENTIONED BEING CONSIDERED AS WELL IT IS A FURTHER POINT TO SAY THERE ARE COMPETING INTERESTS ON THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY. SO AGAIN WE ARE REVIEWING PLANS AS WE SPEAK BUT IN THE MEANTIME THE FUNDING HAS BECOME AVAILABLE. I JUST CHECKED YESTERDAY FROM THE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST AND THEY SAY YES THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE. SO REALLY WE ARE BACK INTO NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE

PROPERTY OWNER. >> AS A COMMENT TO THE BOARD AS

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A REMINDER THIS IS A PROGRAM EVERYBODY WANTS TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY, BUT THERE IS A TICKING CLOCK ON THE OPPORTUNITY SO WE WILL ALL BE MAKING TRIPS TO TALLAHASSEE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE BETTER OR NOT FOR US TO TRY TO GO MEET WITH FOLKS AT DEP, SOMETIMES YOU CAN MESS THIS STUFF UP IF YOU GO TALK TO THEM MORE. WE DON'T WANT TO UPSET ANYBODY BUT WE WANT TO ADVOCATE THE BEST WAY WE CAN, WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND OR CAN YOU MAKE

RECOMMENDATIONS? >> AT THIS TIME WE ARE AT WHERE WE ARE AT WITH FUNDING. NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST IS TRYING THE BEST THEY CAN AND AGAIN YESTERDAY WE HAD THE CONFIRMATION THAT WE DO HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE BUT AGAIN IS THE LIST PRICE VERSUS WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE FUNDING AND WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN NEGOTIATE THAT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER. THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE AS YOU KNOW IN THE MARKET . YES CERTAINLY MORE VOICES TRYING TO SAVE THE ECOLOGICAL BENEFITS TO THE PROPERTY OBVIOUSLY THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY. CERTAINLY IT'S UP TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO DO THAT. TO MAKE THE FINAL

DETERMINATION. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> COMMISSIONER MURPHY. >> WHEN YOU SAY WE HAVE FUNNY

HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? >> I BELIEVE WITHIN THE GRAND THE STATE GRANT IS AVAILABLE $6 MILLION .

>> LET ME ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. WE SENT IT OUT FOR WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? APPRAISAL LAST YEAR AND IT APPRAISED CONSIDERABLY LESS FOR WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR? CAN WE ASK FOR ANOTHER APPRAISAL THAT MAY BE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT A PIECE OF PROPERTY LIKE THIS WOULD BE VALUED AT? IS THAT SOMETHING WE

CAN DO? >> THAT IS A REAL ESTATE QUESTION I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER.

>> I WAS GOING TO GO WHERE YOU WERE GOING IN THAT THE VALUE COME THE COST WERE DIFFERENT FROM THE APPRAISED VALUE. THAT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES WE ARE AT.

>> HOW DO WE GET FUNDING FOR SOMETHING APPROVED TEST RING APPRAISED AT 5 MILLION AND THEY WANT 14 MILLION.

>> IT IS A BIG GAP AND THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THE APPRAISAL BUT WE RELY ON PROFESSIONAL APPRAISERS TO GET THAT AND AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S A DECISION ON WANT TO BE PAID .

>> I WAS THINKING IF WE CAN GET ANOTHER APPRAISAL THAT MAY BE A LITTLE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE MARKET , BUT THIS IS VALUED AT MAYBE WE COULD BRING THAT TO THE CORPORATION AND START NEGOTIATIONS TO GET THIS PROPERTY. FOR CONSERVATION I THINK THIS WOULD BE A HUGE WIN FOR THE COUNTY TO GET THIS

PROPERTY. >> WE CAN TALK MORE ON WHERE WE

ARE NOW. >> GOOD MORNING TURN COMMISSIONERS . REAL ESTATE HAD AN APPRAISAL AND A REVIEWED APPRAISAL BY STATUTE WE HAVE TO GET TWO BECAUSE OF THE VALUE WITH THE REVIEW APPRAISAL CONFIRMING THE AMOUNT WITH THE

INITIAL APPRAISAL WE RECEIVED. >> OKAY.

>> THE AMOUNT IS WHAT? >> ABOUT FIVE?

>> 5.7. >> CONSIDERABLY LOWER THAN WHAT

THEY ARE ASKING. >> CHAIR JOSEPH THROUGH THE CHAIR CAN I ASK IS THAT THE BOARD'S DIRECTION TO ANOTHER UPDATED APPRAISAL IN ADDITION TO THE APPRAISAL WE HAVE BASED ON THE NEW MARKET, MORE DEMAND ENTER THE CHAIR ARE WE ALLOWED

TO DO A THIRD APPRAISAL? >> WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE

WHOLE THING? >> TYPICALLY APPRAISALS ARE GOOD FOR SIX MONTHS. SO THERE IS A POSSIBILITY.

>> IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION IF WE DO THIS AGAIN WOULD IT SIGNIFICANTLY MOVE THE BAR SO WE WOULD HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO START RENEGOTIATIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS FOR THE PROPERTY FOR THE COUNTY I THINK IT WOULD BE A HUGE FEATHER IN THE CAP ON THE CONSERVATION SITE. IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO REESTABLISH

NEGOTIATIONS. >> I'M NOT AN APPRAISER SO I CANNOT SAY IF IT WILL SWING IT HIGHER OR LOWER. THAT IS UP TO A PROFESSIONAL APPRAISER TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT WOULD BE END

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OF IT WOULD CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY ENOUGH.

>> MY QUESTION WOULD BE TO THE BOARD, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN GET CONSENSUS ON? TO SEE IF IT COMES IN HIGHER TO WHERE WE REESTABLISH NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER? IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD GET CONSENSUS ON?

>> YES. DOES THE CURRENT APPRAISAL REFLECT DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS , THE 5.7 IS WITH CURRENT ENTITLEMENT? I THINK WE NEED A

NEW ONE I AGREE. >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.

THINK YOU MEANT THEM TO PICK >> TO HAVE A MOTION TO PUT IT ON THE TABLE AND THEN WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> ITEM TERRIBLE TO HAVE IT TO MOVE IT, NEW PROOF PROVE LAMP RANKING PROPERTY LIST INCLUDING THE LIST FINDING THE PROPERTY RINK LIST CONSISTING WITH THE LAMP ORDINANCE DIRECTING STAFF TO PROCEED FORWARD NEGOTIATION FOR RENT PROPERTIES FOR

POTENTIAL COUNTY ACQUISITION. >> WE HAVE EMOTIONAL THE TABLE

LET'S OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT. >> IN ONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO? SEEING THEN WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> WE WILL VOTE, COMMISSIONER TYLER -- TAYLOR? THANK YOU. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY 5-0. AGENDA

[3. Public Hearing * PUD 2023-25 3229 State Road 207 PUD. Request to rezone approximately 2.07 acres of land from Residential, Single-Family (RS-2) to Planned Unit Development (PUD) to allow for Neighborhood Commercial uses, specifically located at 3229 State Road 207. The Planning and Zoning Agency held a Public Hearing on January 23, 2025 for this item, and voted 5-1 in favor of recommending approval to rezone the subject property from Residential, Single Family (RS-2) to Planned Unit Development (PUD). The dissenting vote was based on concerns about the intensity of the commercial development compared to the current use as a singlefamily residence.]

ITEM NUMBER THREE. >> GOOD MORNING. BRUCE HUMPHREY TOWN PLAZA AVENUE , 120 PONTEVEDRA. HERE ON BEHALF OF MR. JIM WALDRON SEEKING TO RESUME AT 3229 AT 322-9207 FROM RS 2 , TO PUD. THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO SPEAK WITH US IN REGARD TO THIS PROJECT. YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF STATE ROAD 207 WEST AT 95 AND EAST OF VERMONT HEIGHTS. ACROSS THE STREET OR ACROSS 207 FROM THE CROSSINGS AND A LITTLE BIT FOR THE REST FROM CYPRESS LINKS WHERE THE COUNTY GOLF COURSE IS WEST OF 95. MR. WALDRON IS ON THE PROPERTY AND HE WOULD LIKE TO GET IT REZONED PUD AFFORDING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SELL TO SOMEONE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING WITH NEVER COMMERCIAL. THE IDEA IS TO PROVIDE NEVER COMMERCIAL SERVICES LIKE RETAIL OR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE FOR RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF 95 AND RESIDENTS COMING TO THE WEST SIDE OF 95 AS WELL AS IS THE 16TH RESIDENTS, THE HEIGHTS CAN ACCESS THIS SITE FROM THE SIDEWALK SO IT IS VERY WALKABLE , MR. WALDRON GREW UP AND LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY, WANTS TO STAY IN THE COMMUNITY AND DEFINING USE IS ALLOWED WITHIN THE TEXT, THE IDEA IS THAT USE CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. THERE ARE SOME COMMERCIAL ZONING IN THE AREA ALREADY TO THE EAST WITH A PARCEL ON THE MAP THAT SHOWS UP AS CHT COMMERCIAL I WAIT FOR US.

THAT IS A RETENTION POND NOW AND ALSO TO THE WEST JUST WEST OF HAMPSHIRE ROAD AND VERMONT HEIGHTS THERE IS A PARCEL ZONE CG LOCATED ON STATE ROAD 207. CC COMMERCIAL USE IN THE AREA SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE WITH MR. WALDRON'S 2.07 ACRE PARCEL . THE MDP TEXT LAYS OUT THE USE IS ALLOWED PENTAGON THESE ARE CONSISTENT WITH NEVER COMMERCIAL, RETAIL STORES, FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, WITHOUT DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANTS OR DRIVE-THROUGH LIQUOR STORES, IF THERE ANY ALCOHOL ON PREMISE CONSUMPTION ONLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE RESTAURANT. ONE DISTINCT POSSIBLE USE WOULD BE FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICES. SOMETHING LIKE PERHAPS EVEN A DOCTORS OR DENTIST OFFICE WHICH LEADS ME TO THE SIZE, THE TOTAL SIZE AND THE EXPRESS CONCERN ABOUT THAT, IN

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THE MDP TEXT IDENTIFIED AS 9600 SQUARE FEET, THAT WOULD ONLY BE ACHIEVED IF THE STRUCTURE WAS A TWO-STORY. THE HEIGHT IS LIMITED TO 35 FEET. YOU CAN GET TO 9600 IF IT IS TWO STORIES AND THE IDEA , AND YOU SEE THIS , THERE'S A DENTIST OFFICE DOWN THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE. YOU CAN TELL THE PATIENT PORTION OF THE DENTIST OFFICE IS ON THE GROUND FLOOR WITH OFFICES FOR THE DENTIST AND STAFF AND BREAK ROOMS ON THE SECOND FLOOR. THAT WAS THE IDEA BEHIND THAT . IN HIS DISCUSSIONS SOME OF YOUR EXPRESSED CONCERNS AND WE HAVE ADDRESSED THOSE. WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE TEXT THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, I PUT THOSE ON THE OVERHEAD. I DON'T KNOW WHO SWITCHES THE CAMERA TO THE OVERHEAD .

THERE WE GO. SO, IN SPEAKING WITH STAFF , ROBISON , THE IDEA IS GOING FORWARD SHOULD YOU APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT, THESE CONDITIONS WOULD BE AMENDED TO THE MDP TEXT CHANGING PARAGRAPH F TO RECOGNIZE SQUARE FOOTAGE MINETA 9600 SQUARE FEET FOR ONLY A TWO-STORY BUILDING MAXIMUM SINGLE-STORY BUILDING SIZE OF 7500 SQUARE FEET WITH NO TOBACCO OR SMOKING-RELATED RETAIL SHOPS AND MINIATURE STORAGE FACILITIES. SOME OF THOSE WERE NOT INCLUDED BUT WE ARE MAKING IT CLEAR THESE USES WILL NOT BE ALLOWED UNDER THIS PUD. WE WOULD ALSO MODIFY PARAGRAPH G REGARDING THE ACTUAL USE PROHIBITED IN PARTICULAR THE LAST TWO ON THE LIST THAT I JUST IDENTIFIED. THERE IS A SLIGHT TYPO IN PARAGRAPH FIVE THAT WILL BE DELETED UNDER PARAGRAPH G5 THERE IS A REFERENCE TO JUST RETAIL AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TO BE SO NARROW SO THAT WILL BE IDENTIFIED OR DELETED FROM THE TEXT. BUILDINGS OVER 35 FEET, THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE , CANNOT BE MORE THAN 35 FEET SO SAYING OVER 35 FEET IS REALLY NOT APPLICABLE SO THAT WILL BE ADJUSTED. AND THEN THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN ATTACHED TO THE TEXT IN EXHIBIT C TO THE APPLICATION, THERE WILL BE CLARIFICATION WITH REGARD TO THE 9600 SQUARE FEET. WE WILL MAKE IT CLEAR THAT ON THE SITE PLAN 90 -- 9600 IS ONLY ACHIEVED IF IT'S A TWO-STORY BUILDING UP TO 35 FEET MAXIMUM HEIGHT. IF IT IS A SINGLE-STORY BUILDING THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT WOULD BE 7500 SQUARE FEET. MANY

QUESTIONS? >> YES REALLY QUICK I WANT TO DO THE JUDICIAL COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

>> NO RECORDS OF MEETINGS OR EMAILS, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR. HUMPHREY DISCUSSING SITE LOCATION, DISCUSSING HIS PLANS FOR THE PUD DISCUSSING LIMITATIONS LAID OUT

AND THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

>> THANK YOU I ALSO HAVE NO RECORD OF EMAILS OR MEETINGS. I DID SPEAK TO MR. HUMPHREY A COUPLE WEEKS BACK DISCUSSING THE PROJECT AND TEXT AMENDMENTS REGARDING VAPE SHOP'S.

>> I HAD A MEETING WITH APPLICANT AND COUNTY STAFF WITH

NO EMAILS. >> COMMISSIONER MURPHY.

>> SAME, HAD A MEETING WITH THE APPLICANT. I DON'T HAVE EMAILS

BUT I DID A SITE VISIT. >> I DID HAVE A MEETING WITH THE APPLICANT AND COUNTY TEAM AND YOU DID ADDRESS A LOT OF MY CONCERNS JUST NOW, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY WE

WILL OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> ONE QUESTION. WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT WHEN I MET WITH YOU . MY CONCERN IS GOING FORWARD AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF, IS THE STATE OF FLORIDA GOING TO REQUIRE DECELERATION LANE IN THIS PROPERTY? IS IT SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO DO ANYWAY OR IS IT

SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT? >> USUALLY, THE APPLICANT WILL GET WITH D.O.T. IN THE APPLICATION MEETINGS, I DON'T KNOW YOU HAVE HAD THAT MEETING YET WITH D.O.T.? THEY WILL

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DICTATE IF THERE IS A DECELERATING TURN LANE, STAFF WILL LOOK AT MINUTES TO MAKE SURE D.O.T. ARE FOLLOWING WHATEVER THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. NOT SURE IF WE WERE THERE AT

THAT POINT . >> AT THIS TIME PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.

>> REASON WE'RE GETTING A PUD IS SO WE CAN MAKE MORE MONEY. NOT ALONE SO THE OWNER CAN MAKE MORE MONEY, WHEN SOLD . WHITE AREN'T WE DOING THIS PUD BY A LAWYER SO THEY COULD MORE MONEY WHEN THEY SELL THE PROPERTY? CAN'T THAT PERSON A COMES IN AND BUYS IT AFTER THEY ARE GONE AND WALDRON, DO NOT NOTICE . WALDRON IS NOT OUR MR. WALDRON? I THINK THE COMMUNITY STREAMING THIS NEEDS TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE CLOSE TO THE NAME AND YOUR THINKING GOOD OLD MR. WALDRON. THIS IS HIS FAMILY, BUT IT IS NOT FOLKS. IF YOU'RE LISTENING TO THIS IN THE AREA, YOU WATCH THIS PUD. THE ONLY REASON WE'RE DOING IT IS MONEY, MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY. PEOPLE OWN ALL THE LAND AND THEY ARE LEAVING. I WONDER WHERE THEY ARE GOING. WE WILL HAVE PUD, THE PD CHANGES, YOU SAY IT DOESN'T AND IT DOES. WHATEVER IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT THIS SHOULD BE DENIED. I WILL BRING SOMETHING UP WILL QUICKLY. YOUR VOTING WE ARE HAVING PROBLEMS IN THE BACK SO WHEN YOU SAY THREE HAVE THEIR OR 4-1 OR 5-0 THOSE WHO VOTED AGAINST, ONE OF THOSE I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, CAN YOU START TO SAY? YOU KNOW HE IS ONLY ONE MAN AND THERE'S A LOT GOING ON BACK THERE. IF YOU CAN SAY THAT TO LET US KNOW WHO IS NOT VOTING FOR SOME OF THESE IT WOULD BE EASIER AND MORE CLEAR BECAUSE THE NEW SYSTEM IS NOT GOOD FOR US, I'M SORRY.

LOOKING AT THAT THING YOU CANNOT SEE IT. I KNOW WE WILL GO THAT WAY BUT VERBALLY WE NEED IT. I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE. I'M JUST THE ONLY ONE LEFT HERE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR FOR LETTING ME TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT HERE ON THIS ONE THING. I TRY TO BE GOOD AND I'M GLAD YOU STARTED THE MINUTES AT THREE MINUTES, DOWN TO 32 NOW, THANK

YOU. >> THANK YOU, ANYONE ELSE PUBLIC, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. CAN YOU

EXPLAIN WHY IT IS A PUD? >> THE REASONING BEHIND GOING FOR THE PUD IS GENERALLY IF YOU WERE TO REZONE TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL USE , UNDER THE ZONING CATEGORY SAY GOING FOR THE CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING OR COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY TOURIST LIKE OTHER PARCELS, WHEN YOU GO FOR THAT DESIGNATION, IF YOU GET THE ZONING APPROVED YOU GET EVERY SINGLE USE IN THAT CG CATEGORY TO ALLOW. QUITE FRANKLY MR. WALDRON ANTICIPATES LIVING ACROSS THE STREET WHEN THE PROPERTY SELLS HE DOES NOT WANT THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY. THE IDEA WAS GO TO PUD TO LIMIT THE USE TOMORROW NEVER COMMERCIAL USE THAT DOES NOT ENTAIL EVERYTHING YOU GET WITH THE CU GEO COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY TOURIST ZONING. SO YOU KNOW YOU HER DISCUSSIONS EARLIER TODAY ABOUT PROBLEMS OWNERS HAVE BY RIGHTS, WHEN THEY GET THE ZONING IF IT IS ZONED A CLASSIC EXAMPLE, REMEMBER A COUPLE YEARS AGO BUCKYS COMES THROUGH. IT IS HUGE, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD THAT FACILITY WITHOUT CHANGING. THEY HAD ALREADY GOTTEN ALL THE ZONING THEY NEED IN THE SAME WOULD APPLY HERE. IF YOU GET THE CU G COME YOU GET THE USE THAT THE NEIGHBORS FIND OFFENSIVE AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. THEY HAVE

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THE RIGHT TO BUILD IT UNDER THE CODE AT THE TIME SO THAT'S WHY IT CAME IN PUD. TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE NARROW IN FOCUS AND A LITTLE BIT MORE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMERCIAL

FRIENDLY. >> DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO

ADD? >> DID I ADDRESS ALL THE OTHER

THINGS ? >> YES YOU DID. AS FAR AS WHY THE PUD, CURRENTLY ZONING IS RS 2 RESIDENTIAL SO FOR THEM TO BE ALLOWED ANY COMMERCIAL USE THAT TO COME IN WITH A PUD WITH SPECIFIC IDEAS OF WHAT THE COMMERCIAL WILL BE IN ORDER TO KEEP RESIDENTIAL SO THEY KEEP IT AND WITHIN THE COMP PLAN IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THE RECIPE ANYONE COMMERCIAL USE HAVE TO COME IN FOR THE PUD REZONING. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> YES THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS

COUNTY PLANNER. >> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHEN WE MAKE THE MOTION TO WE HAVE TO DO THE AMENDMENTS PROPOSED OR IT'S ALREADY ON THE RECORD?

>> THROUGH THE CHAIRMAN MODIFY MOTION TO INCLUDE THE ITEMS

AMENDED AS STATED ON THE RECORD. >> WE HAVE A MOTION?

>> I DO. MOTION TO NECK ORDINANCE 2025 TO PROVE PUD 2023-25 , 3229 STATE ROAD 207 PUD BASED ON NINE FINDINGS OF FACT LISTED IN STAFF REPORT TO INCLUDE CONDITIONS IN THE

REPORT. >> TO INCLUDE AMENDMENTS.

>> TO INCLUDE AMENDMENTS. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION. LET'S ABOUT. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY FIVE UNANIMOUSLY 5-0. LET'S TRY TO DO ONE MORE BEFORE WE BREAK

[4. Public Hearing * REZ 2024-20 745 Wildwood Drive. Request to rezone approximately one (1) acre of land from Open Rural (OR) to Residential, Single Family (RS-2), located specifically at 745 Wildwood Drive. The Planning and Zoning Agency heard this request at their regularly scheduled public hearing on February 6, 2025 and recommended approval with a vote of 7-0.]

FOR LUNCH. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR WITH QUASI JUDICIAL.

>> THANK YOU HAVE NO RECORD OF MEETINGS PHONE CALLS OR EMAILS.

⌞> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >> THE SAME, NO RECORD OF

MEETINGS PHONE CALLS OR EMAILS. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR?

>> THE SAME. >> COMMISSIONER MURPHY.

>> NO MEETINGS OR EMAILS BUT I DID A SITE VISIT.

>> I'M THE SAME, NO MEETINGS OR EMAILS YOU ARE ON BOARD THANK

YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS RS HERE WITH MY HUSBAND KENNETH AND WHERE THE OWNERS OF 5745 WILDWOOD DRIVE THE PROPERTY WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS. WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY ONE ACRE OF LAND FROM OPEN RURAL RESIDENTIAL. IN ADDITION TO MAKING THE REQUEST, I WILL DEMONSTRATE HOW REZONING MAINTAINS THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND COMPLIES WITH FUTURE LAND USE . FINALLY I WILL TALK ABOUT WHY WE WANT TO DO THIS. THIS IS WHAT I JUST SAID .

THIS IS THE PROPERTY AND THIS IS THE ORIGINAL SURVEY WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, YOU CAN SEE THERE IS THE HOUSE WE CURRENTLY LIVE IN . SO, THIS GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT. THE PROPERTIES LOCATED WITH ACCESS FROM WILDWOOD DRIVE NOT IN ONE OF THE OFF NEIGHBORHOODS AND IT IS APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE SOUTH OF TREATY PARK . TO GIVE YOU WHERE THAT'S AT. THE CURRENT EXISTING ZONING OF SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL. AND SOME OF THE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN REZONED IN MARCH RECENT YEARS TO RESIDENTIAL. FOR EXAMPLE , 715 WAS REZONED IN THE 90S THAT'S JUST SOUTH OF OUR PROPERTY. AS YOU CAN SEE REZONING IS COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING AREA AND ALSO IN COMPLIANCE WITH POLICY A ONE 311 FROM THE CONFERENCE A PLAN RELATED TO ZONING AND WITH RESIDENTIAL C FUTURE LAND USE WHICH IS WHERE THE PROPERTY IS NOW LOCATED . SO WHY ARE WE ASKING FOR THIS? AGAIN HERE IS THE PROPERTY. WE WANT TO REZONE TO RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE RESIDENTIAL ONLY REQUIRES HALF A ACRE FOR THE HOUSE AND WE WANT TO SPLIT PROPERTY APPROXIMATELY WHERE THE RED LINE SHOWS. AT ONE POINT WE DID BUILD AN ACCESSORY BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY WHICH WOULD TURN OUT TO BE ON THE SPLIT OFF HALF WITH THE INTENTION TO BUILD A HOUSE ON THE OTHER HALF ACRE SO WE CAN MOVE INTO IT. SO, THE

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SPLIT WOULD CREATE TWO SEPARATE HALF ACRE LOTS AS PICTURED WITH INTENTION TO BUILD A HOUSE THAT MORE COMFORTABLY FITS OUR FAMILY. THIS CHANGE IN ZONING IS IDEAL TO MAXIMIZE NOT ONLY USE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT ALSO TO SUPPORT GROWTH IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WHILE MAINTAINING THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE WE HAVE DONE OUR RESEARCH AND WE HAVE MADE NECESSARY ARRANGEMENTS TO ENSURE THE PROPERTY COMPLIES WITH ALL ZONING REGULATIONS. WE BELIEVE REZONING WILL CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY TO THE ECONOMY. SO THE EXISTING ACCESSORY BUILDING , THE EXISTING NUMBERS AND MEASUREMENTS ARE ON THE RIGHT AND THE ZONING REGULATIONS ARE ON THE LEFT. YOU CAN SEE WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THAT WITH REZONING AND WHEN THE PROPERTY IS SPLIT. IN CONCLUSION YOU HAVE HEARD OUR REQUEST WHICH IS TO REZONE FROM OPEN RURAL TO RESIDENTIAL. I'VE SO NOW THIS THE RED CHARACTER AND FUTURE LAND USE AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT WHY WE WANT TO DO THIS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND

CONSIDERATION. ANY QUESTIONS? >> QUESTIONS FROM THE PORT? VERY WELL DONE PRESENTATION. PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> WILL NOW ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

SEEING NONE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> MOTION? >> IF I MAY. MOTION TO APPROVE OR MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2025- 5 APPROVING RESOLUTION REZ WILDWOOD DRIVE BASED ON FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED IN THE STAFF

REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> LET'S VOTE . THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY 5-0. SINCE THAT WENT

[5. Public Hearing * Public Hearing - LDCA 2025-02 Pavers - Second Reading. At the January 21st meeting of the Board of County Commissioners, staff was asked to bring forward draft language to address the placement of pavers and non-structural flatwork on lots. This is the second Reading of the Land Development Code Amendment as directed.]

SO QUICKLY I THINK WE COULD DO MAYBE THE PAVER SECOND READING.

BECAUSE I CAN SEE MISS SHERMER IN THE AUDIENCE.

>> GOOD MORNING COMMISSION IS. DICK DOUZA ASSISTANT DIRECTOR GROWTH MANAGEMENT ITEM NUMBER FIVE THE SECOND HEARING FOR THE LAND DEVELOPER CODE AMENDMENT REGARDING PAVERS . AND SO AS WE RECALL LAST TIME A QUICK OVERVIEW THE BOARD REQUESTED THIS TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD BY STAFF IN JANUARY. IT IS BASICALLY TO CHANGE LAND DEVELOPER CODE TO ALLOW PAVERS AND HARD SCAPE WITHIN THE THREE FOOT SETBACK OF RESIDENTIAL LOTS SUBJECT TO A ENGINEERING ANALYSIS TO PROVE THERE'S NO ADVERSE IMPACT DRAINAGE WISE TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES SO THE CURRENT CODE SAYS THERE MUST BE A THREE FOOT MINIMUM FROM PROPERTY LINES EXCEPT AS PROVIDED SECTION 202 004 B MAINTAINED AT ALL TIMES REGARDLESS OF DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND THAT IS AMENDED TO INCLUDE HORIZONTAL NONSTRUCTURAL FLOOD WORK INCLUDING PAVERS LOCATED WITHIN RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF REAR YARD SETBACK IN PLACE CLOSER THAN THREE FEET TO THE SIDE OR PROPERTY LINE ALLOWED WITH SUBMISSION OF SITE-SPECIFIC ENGINEERING DRAINAGE ANALYSIS PREPARED , SIGNED AND SEALED BY LICENSED PROFESSIONAL QUALIFIED UNDER THE LAW , LAWS OF STATE OF FLORIDA TO PERFORM SUCH WORK AND CERTIFIED NOT CREATING ADVERSE DRAINAGE IMPACT TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND ANOTHER LINE NOTWITHSTANDING BELOW SUCH FLAT WORK LOCATED FOR PLANTED OR RECORDED DRAINAGE EASEMENT AUTHORIZATION MUST BE OBTAINED FROM THE EASEMENT HOLDER IF OLDER THAN THE COUNTY SO THE LAST PART SPEAKS IF THERE IS A EASEMENT IN THE SUBDIVISIONS THE EASEMENT HOLDER MUST GIVE PERMISSION FOR THIS TO OCCUR. OTHERWISE THIS WILL HAVE THE EFFECT OF ALLOWING THESE HARD SERVICES TO EXIST WITHIN THREE FEET OF PROPERTY LINES SUBJECT TO SITE-SPECIFIC DRAINAGE ANALYSIS BEING REVIEWED BY STAFF. I AM HERE FOR ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS? PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> WILL NOW ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE? SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE.

>> DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> MADAM CHAIR MOTION TONIGHT ORDINANCE 2025. APPROVING PROPOSE AMENDMENTS TO LAND A BULIMIC CODE ADDRESS PAVERS AND NONSTRUCTURAL FLOOD WORK.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION , LET'S VOTE

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. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY 5-0. NOW I THINK WE WILL BREAK FOR LUNCH UNTIL 12:30.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Mar 04, 2025 Board of County Commissioners

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