[Call to Order by Chair]
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          NOON. AN ITALIAN FOOD SERVER IS HERE. I REALLY APPRECIATE THEM RECOGNIZING THAT WE MIGHT BE HUNGRY BREAK. THERE ARE -- LIMITED TO OF 
          COURT. INAUDIBLE ] >> BEING CALLED ] WE WILL HAVE OUR INVOCATION BY PASTOR ANGIE FROM ANCHOR FAITH . 
          >> LET US PRAY. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER WE GIVE YOU HONOR AND FIRST PLACE PUT OUR TRUST IF YOU WILL GIVE YOU INAUDIBLE ] THAT WE CAN LEAD PROPERLY AND IN LOVE. IN YOUR KINGDOM COME, YOUR WILL BE DONE ON EARTH YOU FIRST, LORD, AND PLACED TRUST IN YOU. 
          THAT THEY WOULD NOT LEAN TO THE WISDOM NEEDED TO SEE AND DISCERN CLEARLY AND THAT THEY WOULD ASK YOU AND LOOK TO YOU, DESIRING THAT WOULD BE DONE. 
          I PRAY THAT WITH ALL THEY ENCOUNTER TODAY YOU WILL MAKE THE PATH STRAIGHT. LORD THEIR STAFF THEIR FAMILIES. AMEN. 
          >> NOW WILL WELCOME 
          >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY FOR ALL. 
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          >> ARE THERE DILUTIONS OR CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? I HAVE ONE. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL NUMBER 15 AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AS NUMBER 3 A. I THINK ADAM IS GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION ON 
          [Approval of Consent Agenda]
THAT. DO HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA WITH THE 
          AMENDMENT . I WILL MAKE THAT MO >> SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? 
          >> AYE. >> GOOD MORNING. WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. SEEING NONE WE 
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WILL OR DELETIONS TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. ADMINISTRATOR 
          ANDREW'S, HAVE A CHANGE IN >> YES. WE ARE TO POSTPONE T 
          [Approval of Regular Agenda]
          ITEM. >> WITH THE AMENDED THAN DID PUT THE CONSENT ITEM ADDS THREE NOW WE CAN THAT AT THREE. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA . 
          [Proclamation Recognizing February 2025 as Black History Month]
          >> MOTION TO APPROVE . >> SECOND . 
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          >> ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE . 
          >> NOW WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO PROCLAMATIONS. I THINK WE HAVE COMMISSIONER MURPHY . 
          >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION THIS MORNING BUT FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE ONE OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND THE WORK THAT SHE HAS DONE TIRELESSLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WILL HONOR TODAY. SARAH, IF YOU WOULD NOT MIND JOINING ME. 
          >> THANK YOU . >> PLEASE JOIN ME UPFRONT AND YOU CAN BRING THE MEMBERS OF THE CRA AND MY FRIENDS APPEAR. 
          >> A PROCLAMATION BY THE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS, ST. 
          JOHNS FLORIDA. WHEREAS BLACK HISTORY MONTH WAS ADOPTED IN 1786 TO AFFIRM THE IMPORTANCE OF BLACK HISTORY THROUGH THE AMERICAN EXPERIENCE AND, WHEREAS, THE THEME FOR 2025, AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN LABOR FOCUSES ON THE VARIOUS PROFOUND WAYS THAT WORK AND WORKING OF ALL KINDS INTERSECT WITH THE COLLECTIVE EXPERIENCES OF BLACK PEOPLE., WHEREAS, AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES FROM THE EARLY DAYS OF THE PLANERS TO PRESENT-DAY LEADERS IN INDUSTRIES LIKE AEROSPACE, FINANCE, GOVERNMENT, AND INTERNATIONAL TRADE. AND, WHEREAS, DURING BLACK HISTORY MONTH ALL-AMERICANS ARE ENCOURAGED TO REFLECT ON THE RICH HISTORY AND TEACHINGS OF EVERTON AMERICANS AND BEAR WITNESS THE BEAUTY AND ACHIEVEMENTS THEY HAVE MADE THROUGHOUT SOCIETY. AND NOW THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT FEBRUARY 2020 5B DESIGNATED BLACK HISTORY MONTH. PAST BY ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THIS 18TH DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2025. 
          >> THANK YOU, EVERYONE. I AM GRATEFUL FOR MY TEAM AND OUR COMMUNITY. THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN IMPORTANT PART OF MY LIFE. AT A YOUNG AGE I REMEMBER MAKING HISTORY. WHICH IS A LONG WAY FROM WEST AUGUSTINE. I CAN REMEMBER MEETING ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE AND AS OF TODAY WE STILL REMAIN FRIENDS. I MET PEOPLE LIKE --, DUSTY ROSE. THE BASKETBALL LEGENDS FROM THE HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS. I EVEN TOLD MY FRIENDS I MET MICHAEL JACKSON BUT NO ONE BELIEVED THAT. BLACK HISTORY IS SO IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE DIVE IN THE DEEP ROOTS OF EXCELLENCE AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR LIVES ARE FROM AUGUSTINE AND ABROAD. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE -- WHO WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH GOVERNOR DESANTIS ABOUT BLACK HISTORY IN ST. AUGUSTINE AND WHAT THAT 
          MEANS TO HIM. >> GOOD MORNING. I AM A SOME OF GREATER WHO ATTENDS -- POINT CHRISTIAN ACADEMY AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. SPEECH WITH YOU. WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE MANY PEOPLE HAVE A MINDSET THAT WRONG IS RIGHT AND RIGHT IS WRONG. THIS IS NOT TRUE FOR EVERYONE BUT IT IS TRUE FOR ME. SOMETIMES WE SEEM TO HAVE THIS MINDSET AT DIFFERENT POINTS IN OUR LIVES. FEBRUARY IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH. 
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A TIME WHERE WE CELEBRATE THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF BLACK PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRIES HISTORY. IT IS A MUST THAT MEAN SO MUCH TO SO MANY PEOPLE, INCLUDING ME BUT SOME FORGET WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT. ONE PERSON THAT HAD AN IMPACT ON BLACK LIVES AND A PERSON IN HISTORY IS DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. HE FOUGHT FOR EQUAL RIGHTS AND BECAUSE OF HIS WORK MANY PEOPLE GAINED FREEDOM AND EQUALITY. DOCTOR KING'S LEGACY HAS HAD AN INCREDIBLE IMPACT ON OUR COUNTRY AND I AM BEYOND GRATEFUL FOR HIM WHERE I LIVE. AROUND 2 MILLION PEOPLE -- EACH YEAR. MANY COME FOR ITS BEAUTIFUL BEACHES, THE CHARMING DOWNTOWN OR EVEN HISTORY. BUT WHAT MANY PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW IS THAT ST. AUGUSTINE BECAME AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT BECAUSE OF DOCTOR MARTIN LUTHER KING. HIS LEADERSHIP IN MY CITY SUPPORTED THE ANTIDISCRIMINATION MOVEMENT AND PUSHED FOR THE SEGREGATION. THESE DEMONSTRATIONS WERE A KEY PART IN CONGRESS TO PASS THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964. THIS MAIN SEGREGATION IN PUBLIC PLACES E LEGAL AND STOP EMPLOYMENT DISCRIMINATION BASED ON RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, AND GENDER. ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS MOMENTS IN HISTORY HAPPENED IN ST. AUGUSTINE WHEN PROTESTERS TRIED TO -- OWNER OF THE HOTEL JAMES BROCK THROUGH ACID INTO THE SWIMMING POOL WHICH SHOCKED PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. IT CAUGHT THE ATTENTION IN THE MEDIA AND SAW AND WE SAW JUST HOW BAD PEOPLE TREAT PEOPLE. HIS TIME IN JAIL HIGHLIGHTED THE CRUEL INJUSTICES OF SEGREGATION AND IT MADE PEOPLE REALIZE SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE TO STOP IT. THE DAY AFTER HIS ARREST THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964 WAS SIGNED INTO LAW. DURING DR. KING S CAMPAIGN IN ST. AUGUSTINE HE STAYED AT A BEACH HOUSE AND IT WAS SET FIRE AND SHOT UP WHILE DR. KING WAS STAYING THERE. THE HOUSE IS NOW A SYMBOL OF HOPE AND RESISTANCE. THE HOUSE HOLDS A LOT OF HISTORICAL VALUE FOR THE VISIT TO ST. AUGUSTINE. I HAVE A PERSONAL CONNECTION TO THE HOUSE. MY FATHER PLAYED A ROLE IN HELPING TO PRESERVE THE HOUSE. HE IS AN IMPORTANT LEADER IN THE COMMUNITY AND WORKED HARD TO MAKE SURE THE HOUSE WAS SAVED. HE HELPED RALLY SUPPORT FROM LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY TO MOVE THE HOUSE TO A NEW LOCATION. THANKS TO HIS EFFORTS THE CAMERON HOUSE WAS SAVED AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK AND REMAINS A SYMBOL OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT TODAY. IN CONCLUSION, DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. WORKED HARD FOR JUSTICE, EQUALITY, AND IT SHOWS US HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT EVEN WHEN IT IS NOT EASY. DURING BLACK HISTORY MONTH WE SHOULD REMEMBER HOW MUCH HE DID TO HELP ELECT PEOPLE GAIN FREEDOM AND EQUALITY. HIS LEGACY TEACHES US THAT ALTHOUGH PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE THERE IS A LOT TO BE DONE. 
          IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP HONORING THE WORK TO KEEP THINGS FAIR FOR EVERYONE. WE MUST KEEP MOVING FORWARD. AND ENCOURAGE HOPE WHERE POSSIBLE. AND AS A RESIDENT OF MY BEAUTIFUL CITY IN ST. AUGUSTINE, WE SHOULD ALL BE HAPPY AND PROUD THAT WE ARE 
          PROUD OF LACK HISTORY. >> 
          >> CAN I INVITE THE REST OF THE BOARD TO COME OUT FOR THIS? 
          [Proclamation Recognizing February 18th, 2025, as A1A All-American Road Day]
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          >> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF HAVING FEBRUARY 16 RECOGNIZED AS A1A ALL-AMERICAN ROAD DAY THEY . 
          >> A PROCLAMATION BY THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. WHEREAS ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS COMMITTED TO THE PROTECTION OF SCENIC BEAUTY, PRESERVATION OF HISTORY, CULTURE, ENHANCEMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLE, BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND THE PROMOTION OF NATURE THROUGHOUT THE RECREATION. THE FRIENDS OF A1A BICOASTAL WORK TIRELESSLY TO PROMOTE THESE EFFORTS ALONG THE A1A. WHEREAS THE A1A SCENIC COASTAL ROAD WAS CREATED BY THE PARTNERSHIP OF THREE ESTABLISHED FLORIDA HIGHWAYS UNDER THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FLORIDA SCENIC HIGHWAY PROGRAM LINKING A1A, OCEAN SHORE AND FLAGLER BE. AND HISTORIC A1A . WHERE IS THE ALL-AMERICAN ROAD DESIGNATION WHICH WAS ANNOUNCED ON FEBRUARY 16, 2021 IS ONE OF TWO TO HAVE EARNED THIS DISTINCTION IN FLORIDA AND ONE OF 58 IN THE UNITED STATES. AND NOW, THEREFORE BE PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA THAT FEBRUARY 16 BE RECOGNIZED AS A1A ALL-AMERICAN ROAD DAY. PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA THIS 18TH DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2025. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? 
          >> I AM DANIEL ANDERSON AND I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE -- ISSUING THIS PROCLAMATION. ALSO, MATT, PLEASE GIVE HIM A HAND. WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO PROVIDE RESOURCES TO RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. IF YOU EVER SEE US DOING ROADSIDE CLEANUP WE NEED VOLUNTEERS. SO PLEASE COME SEE US. 
          >> THANK YOU, SO MUCH. FOR PUBLIC COMMENT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE THAT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE I WILL OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THE UPDATE SO YOU DO NOT NEED TO COME TO PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT 
          NOW. COMMISSIONER MURPHY. >> AT THIS TIME WILL OPEN PUBLIC 
          [Acceptance of Proclamations]
COMMENT FOR REGULAR MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA. 
          >> IT MIGHT BE JUST A FORMALITY BUT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A 
          [Public Comment]
MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATIONS . 
          >> SO MOVE . >> SECOND . 
          >> ALL IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE PROCLAMATIONS? 
          >> AYE . >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. HE'S COME TO ONE OF THE THREE PODIUMS AND STATE YOUR NAME. WE ASK THAT YOU SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE. YOU WILL RESPECT RULES OF -- PAPER MATERIALS CAN BE PLACED ON THE OVERHEAD CAMERA 
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TO DISPLAY. WITH THAT, STATE YOUR NAME. 
          >> TOM REYNOLDS AND TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE COMMISSION A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON COUNTY ATTORNEYS AND COUNTY ATTORNEY HIRING. 13 YEARS AGO, WE HAD A COUNTY ATTORNEY NAMED PATRICK FRANCIS MCCORMICK. PATRICK WAS A NICE MAN. HE REMINDED ME OF FLOYD THE BARBER. HOWEVER, HE WAS NOT REALLY SUCH A NICE MAN TO THE RESIDENTS. HE DID NOT QUITE STICK UP FOR THE RESIDENCE LIKE HE SHOULD. TO TOP IT ALL OFF, ONE OF MY PROUDEST MOMENTS IN THIS ROOM IS WHEN HE MENTIONED ME WHEN HE RETIRED AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY. YOU SEE, PATRICK, HE REALLY WAS A GOOD GUY BUT HE WAS A CRIMINAL. HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE COVER-UP OF THE WATER BILL AND THE MURDER OF MICHELLE CONNOR. IT IS A VERY GOOD TORY AND JULIE ANDREW AND JESSE KNOW ABOUT THAT. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE STORY ABOUT THE WATER BILL. THAT HAD TO DO WITH PATRICK FRANCIS MCCORMICK AND JERRY CONMAN ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. HE TOOK CARE OF THE WATER BILL ON THAT MURDER. WE HAVE BEEN WAITING YEARS FOR THAT THOUGH. 
          ALONG COMES PATRICK. AND WE END UP WITH --. HE HAD THE WORST RATING OF ANY ATTORNEY I HAVE EVER KNOWN AND WHEN HENRY DINGUS LIGHTED US AND TOLD US ONLY ONE COMMISSIONER SAID ANYTHING NEGATIVE I SPOKE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS. WHY DID HE LEAVE HER SUDDENLY? BECAUSE HE WAS NOT DOING HIS JOB.. T■HEN E EAVES AND NOW WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A NEW ATTORNEY SO, WHAT DOES THAT SAY RIGHT THERE ABOUT THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY? WAS HE NOT CAPABLE OF HOLDING THE FORT? IF THE COMMISSION THINGS THAT LEX -- AND WE HAD TO HIRE A $15,000 CONTRACTED ATTORNEY BECAUSE HE WAS -- BROTHER DARRELL? SO WE HAVE A CONTRACTED ATTORNEY FOR WHAT? THE VERY FIRST THING I WANT TO TELL YOU IS TO MAKE SURE THAT HE IS PREPARED BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, NOBODY HAD ANY FAITH IN ANYBODY. I HAD FAITH IN LEX. HE GOES WAY 
          BACK. >> NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          >> I CAME HERE FOR THE A1A PROCLAMATION AND NOT TO SPEAK BUT I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY BEACH ALLIANCE. I WORK PROUDLY ALONGSIDE PATRICK ON THE A1A WHEN HE WAS IN FLAGLER AND HE HELPED US GET OUR DESIGNATIONS SO THIS ALL COMES AS A SURPRISE TO ME. HE WAS A WONDERFUL MAN AND I ENJOYED WORKING WITH HIM. ON BEHALF OF THE NORTH BEACH COUNTY ALLIANCE WE SPOKE ABOUT THE RV PARK AND HOW WHAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW HAS BEEN MORE THAN DOUBLING REQUESTS OF THE INITIAL PAYMENTS APPROVED SO, AGAIN, WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR ASSISTANCE IN LOOKING AT THESE THINGS. THEY ARE MAJOR CHANGES. I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY AND GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. NAME AND ADDRESS . 
          >> I AM DEMETRIUS AND I LIVE IN TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA AND I AM HERE TO ASK YOU TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO SAVE LIVES IN THE COUNTY AND AROUND THE STATE. I AM A DAD FROM TALLAHASSEE AND I GOT UP TO DRIVE HERE THIS MORNING BECAUSE I AM ON A MISSION TO SAVE LIVES. AS A MEMBER OF THE HANDS-FREE COALITION OF FLORIDA WHICH INCLUDES LAW ENFORCEMENT, INSURANCE COMPANIES AND FOR AND NONPROFIT ENTITIES I HAVE BEEN TRAVELING THE STATE ASKING CITIES AND COUNTIES TO URGE THE 
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STATE TO ADOPT A HANDS-FREE LAW THAT WOULD COMPEL DRIVERS TO PUT THEIR PHONES DOWN WHILE DRIVING. IN STATES THAT THEY HAVE PASSED SUCH LAWS AND ENFORCE THEM THEY HAVE SEEN AN IMMEDIATE AND MEASURABLE REDUCTION OF TRAFFIC FATALITIES OF 25%. IN ST. JOHNS THERE WERE OVER 3600 PRESSURES RESULTING IN 2000 ENTRIES AND 23 PEOPLE DEAD. IF WE CAN SAVE 25% OF THAT, THAT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT ARE NOT GOING WHAT I'M GOING THROUGH. 
          MY SON ANTHONY WAS A JOY AND EVERYTHING A PARENT COULD HOPE FOR . HE WAS KIND, FUNNY, HARD-WORKING, SMART. HE WAS THE BEST BIG BROTHER I HAVE EVER SEEN. ANTHONY WAS ON HIS WAY FROM WORK TO SCHOOL ON FRIDAY WHEN HE WAS RUN OVER AND KILLED BY A MAN WHO KNEW BETTER YET CHOSE TO LOOK AT HIS PHONE WHILE HE WAS OPERATING A VEHICLE AND DOING THE MOST DANGEROUS THING THAT WE DO. IN 2024 I WAS ABLE TO USHER A COMPREHENSIVE HANDS-FREE BILL THROUGH THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND IT WAS ASSIGNED TO THREE COMMITTEES AND IT WAS UNOPPOSED AND RECEIVED BIPARTISAN UNANIMOUS SUPPORT. IT DIED IN THE SENATE BECAUSE ONE SENATOR COULD NOT SEE THE WISDOM OF SAVING LIVES. 
          GOOD PEOPLE EVERYWHERE IN THIS STATE WANT THIS. I HAVE TRAVELED ALL OVER THE STATE AND EVERYWHERE PEOPLE ASK, WHY DON'T WE HAVE THIS YET? WHY HAVE WE NOT DONE THIS? AND I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE NOT DONE THIS. A FEW WEEKS AGO I SENT AN EMAIL TO YOU. I HOPE YOU RECEIVED IT. IT HAS DRAFT RESOLUTION LANGUAGE AND IT HAS INFORMATION AND STATISTICS TO BACK UP WHAT I AM SAYING. A SHOCKING STATISTIC IS THAT DISTRACTED DRIVING IS 23 TIMES, IT INCREASES YOUR LIKELIHOOD OF CRASHING 23 TIMES. THERE WAS A STUDY DONE BY STATE FARM OR AAA WHERE THEY PUT CAMERAS IN PEOPLES CARS AND LEFT THEM THERE FOR A YEAR AND AFTER THAT INITIAL PERIOD OF PEOPLE GETTING USED TO IT THE STUDY FOUND THAT 60% OF CRASHES RESULTED -- 60% OF CRASHES HAD A PERSON DRIVING DISTRACTED IN THE MINUTES PRIOR TO THAT SO THIS IS A PROBLEM. WE CAN SAVE LIVES AND I HOPE YOU WILL HELP ME BY ADOPTING THIS RESOLUTION. 
          >> THANK YOU . >> THANK YOU FOR COMING ALL THE 
          WAY OVER HERE. >> LIKE I SAID, I AM ON A MISSION TO SAVE LIVES AND I WISH SOMEBODY HAD DONE THIS FOR ME 
          AND MY FAMILY 10 YEARS AGO. >> THANK YOU COUGH SYRUP. 
          >> IF I MAY, BEFORE YOU GO, LET'S JUST SPEAK THE NAME ANTHONY AND SAY HOW SORRY WE ARE FOR YOUR LOSS . 
          >> I MISS MY SON SO MUCH AND HE WAS MY BEST FRIEND. HE WAS BORN INTO THE AFTERMATH OF AN TIME WHEN MY OLDER SON HAD WENT TO SLEEP AND DID NOT WAKE UP SO ANTHONY REPRESENTS MY REBIRTH AND THE REBIRTH OF HIS MOM AND WHEN WE POURED ALL OF OUR LOVE INTO HIM IT BECAME OBVIOUS AS HE GREW UP BECAUSE HE WAS JUST SUCH A LOVELY INCREDIBLE LOVING HUMAN. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIM BECAUSE I MISS HIM SO. THIS IS A 
          PREVENTABLE TRAGEDY. >> HOW MANY COUNTIES HAVE YOU 
          BEEN TO? >> ME, PERSONALLY, THIS MONTH SO FAR, THIS IS THE NINTH. THIS AFTERNOON I AM GOING TO GASTON COUNTY WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO PASS THE RESOLUTION. ON THURSDAY THE CITY OF GAINESVILLE IS PASSING A RESOLUTION AND I WOULD SAY IN JANUARY THERE WAS EIGHT OR NINE COUNTIES. LIKE I SAID I 
          AM ON A MISSION TO SAVE LIVES. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> HELLO I DWIGHT MILLER. IT HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE YOU HAVE SEEN MY FACE APPEAR. IT IS GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU AGAIN. I AM HERE TODAY, I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT PUBLIC HOUSING LATER ON AND I JUST WANT TO FIRST OF ALL RECOGNIZE AND APPRECIATE WHAT ALL OF YOU HAVE DONE ALREADY TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE 
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HOUSING TO MIDDLE-CLASS RESIDENCE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I KNOW THAT HAS NOT BEEN EASY AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS. TODAY I SPEAKING TO THE NEED FOR ECONOMIC DIVERSITY GOING FORWARD IN TERMS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE NEED TO EXPAND THAT TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. WE HAVE WONDERFUL RESIDENTS UP AND DOWN THE ECONOMIC SCALE. MANY WORKED VERY, VERY HARD AND DON'T HAVE GOOD PLACES TO LIVE RIGHT NOW AND OTHERS CANNOT FIND A PLACE. 
          WE HAVE LOST LAND, I BELIEVE. AND WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THESE PEOPLE. WE DON'T WANT TO BE A COMMUNITY WE WANT EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE TO STAY HERE AND MANY HAVE LIVED HERE ALL THEIR LIVES AND I JUST ASK THAT THIS BE A PRIORITY AS YOU MAKE PLANS GOING FORWARD TO LOOK AT HOW YOU DEFINE THINGS LIKE WHAT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND EXPAND THAT WINDOW TO INCLUDE EVERYBODY. WHETHER WE NEED A PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY OR NOT, LET'S FIND A SOLUTION THAT WILL MAKE THAT HAPPEN. I KNOW YOU WILL DO IT BECAUSE YOU ARE A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE AND FOR ONCE I FINISHED AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. THAT IS NOT EASY . 
          >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. 
          I AM KEN MCLEAN, PO BOX 912 HASTINGS FLORIDA. IT HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE I HAVE BEEN UP HERE. IT IS NICE TO HAVE THE COMMISSIONERS HERE. WE REPRESENT -- AND MY GRANDMOTHER IS INAUDIBLE ] AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE PROCLAMATION THAT YOU MADE TO MAKE THIS A BETTER PLACE. SHE HAS BEEN THROUGH A LOT AND I HAVE NOT SEEN AND FOR HER TO SEE THAT PROCLAMATION TODAY MEANT SOMETHING TO HER. WE NEED TO GET POLICIES AND FACT AND DETERMINATION TO MAKE THIS A BETTER PLACE. IN THE MILITARY I MADE AN OATH TO PROTECT AND SERVE AND AFTER I GOT OUT OF THE MILITARY I STILL HAVE THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WILL TAKE ME. SO I WILL FIGHT UNTIL GOD TAKES ME HOME. I HOPE ALL OF YOU HERE WILL DO THE SAME THING. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE REST OF YOU THIS YEAR. AND COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, WE APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU ARE DOING IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. MY CONCERN IS LOCAL RESIDENTS ARE NOT BENEFITING FROM THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT --. WE CAN SPEND $39 MILLION TO REDO THE PLAN AND WE CAN AT LEAST MAKE SURE, -- BECAUSE THAT IS INCOME IN PERPETUITY LIKE IMPACT FEES. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THAT. COULD BE NUMBERS. THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY. IT IS NOT THAT BIG BUT IT COULD ADD TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN HASTINGS FOR EXISTING RESIDENTS. THANK YOU 
          VERY MUCH. I LOVE YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU, MR. MCLEAN. 
          >> NICOLE CROSBY, 1169 NECK ROAD. I SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PROPOSED HANDS-FREE AND I WAS ACTUALLY STOP FOR TALKING ON A CELL PHONE WHILE TALKING ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO AND I ALWAYS ASSUMED THAT WAS THE LAW HERE AND I AM SURPRISED IT IS NOT SO PASSED. HE DID A POWERFUL JOB OF DESCRIBING WHY WE NEED THAT LAW. 
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THE ORIGINAL REASON I CAME HERE TODAY WAS JUST, YOU ALL HAVE RULES FOR US TO BE RESPECTFUL DURING PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE TRY TO ADHERE TO AND I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE TWO SUGGESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONERS. TWO THINGS, I WOULD ASK THAT IF YOU COME TO THIS MEETING WITH AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF INFORMATION TO PLEASE PRESENT IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND NOT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED BECAUSE IF IT IS PRESENTED AT THE END RIGHT BEFORE THE VOTE THE PUBLIC DOES NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON IT. REALLY CUT TO PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF OUR SYSTEM IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOT SAVE THAT UNTIL AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT. ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION, WHEN THE TREE PROTECTIONS WERE PROPOSED A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, THE TERM TREE TAX WAS USED INCORRECTLY. IT IS A SERIOUS TERM THAT A SUPER MAJORITY IS REQUIRED TO VOTE ON A TAT. -- TAX. I WAS NOT HAPPY THAT TRUE TAX WAS USED OVER AND OVER THROUGH THE ELECTION, MISLEADING RESIDENCE THEN I HEARD IT A FEW WEEKS AGO ON THE AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSING REMOVING THE EXEMPTIONS FOR THE CONCURRENCY FEES PAID BY NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPERS. I HEARD REMOVING THOSE EXEMPTIONS IS LIKE TAXING THEM. IT IS NOT A TAX AND WE SHOULD NOT USE THE WORD TAX IS A FIGURE OF SPEECH. 
          WE SHOULD BE PRECISE ABOUT OUR LANGUAGE AND NOT MISLEAD RESIDENCE INTENTIONALLY OR UNINTENTIONALLY SO WHEN WE USE THE WORD TAX WE CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A TAX SO I JUST CALL ON YOU TO BE PRECISE ABOUT YOUR LANGUAGE. I HAVE HEARD OCCASIONS WHEN COUNTY ATTORNEYS HAVE CORRECTED COMMISSIONERS IF THEY SAY SOMETHING THAT IS LEGALLY INCORRECT SO I WOULD ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO CONSIDER DOING THAT. IF THE WORD TAX IS USED INCORRECTLY, EVEN WITH GOOD INTENTIONS. TAX IS NOT A FIGURE OF SPEECH. IT IS A LEGAL WORD. 
          THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. I AM DIANA MARKOWITZ AND I AM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC RELATIONS FOR ST. 
          JOHNS CULTURAL EVENTS IN. AFTER THE PROCLAMATION TODAY I FELT INSPIRED TO SHARE SOME GREAT NEWS THAT HAPPENED AT THE HISTORIC STATE PARK. THE BLUE SERIES IS PRESENTED BY SJC CULTURAL EVENTS . FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS WE HAVE WELCOMED OVER 15,000 PEOPLE TO THE HISTORIC STATE PARK. THE PARK THAT WE KNOW IS THE SITE OF THE FIRST LEGALLY SANCTIONED FREE AFRICAN SETTLEMENT IN WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE UNITED STATES ESTABLISHED IN 1738, TO HOLD MUSIC AND A GATHERING OF PEOPLE TOGETHER ON THAT HISTORIC SITE, WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS THAT EXPERIENCE SO I WANTED TO BRIEFLY TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE PAST TWO WEEKENDS. FEBRUARY 6 THROUGH THE 16TH WE HAD SIX PERFORMANCES BY JAZZ AND BLUES ICON KIM TOWER OF POWER, MACY GRAY, SNARKY PUPPY AND WE WELCOMED OVER 4800 PEOPLE TO THE SACRED GROUNDS OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKENDS. WE HAVE HELPED TO RAISE FUNDS FOR THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY EFFORTS TO RECONSTRUCT THE FORT. WE HAVE DONATED OVER $130,000 AND MORE COMING FROM THIS PAST WEEKEND AND AS YOU CAN SEE OR IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO THE PARK YET, GO SEE THAT FORT. IT STANDS IN BEAUTY AND SPIRIT OF HUMAN TRIUMPH. WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THE JAZZ SERIES EVERY FEBRUARY FOR AS LONG AS THE STATE PARK WILL HAVE US OUT 
          THERE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I AM SO GLAD WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SNARKY PUPPY TO COME TO TOWN. WAS THAT OUT LOUD? I APOLOGIZE, MADAM CHAIR. 
          >> JOE MCENERY 1005 BLACKBERRY LANE. TODAY I AM HERE TO TALK 
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ABOUT TRAFFIC AND THE SUBJECT IS NONRESIDENTIAL AS A REMINDER, 45% OF OUR ROADS ARE OVERCROWDED. THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND SO FOR RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS YOUR STAFF TELLS YOU -- IMPACTED ROAD LIST INCLUDING COST TO IMPROVE THOSE ROADS AND ROAD OVERCROWDING NONRESIDENTIAL PROJECTS YOUR STAFF TELLS YOU NOTHING. 
          TYPICALLY IT WILL READ NONRESIDENTIAL TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY IS EXEMPT. THE FACT THAT THE CONCERT CONCURRENCY IS EXEMPT MEANS THAT THE STAFF DOES NO REVIEWS IN TERMS OF INFORMING YOU OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT OF THAT PROJECT SO, MY POINT IS THAT AS COMMISSIONERS YOU REALLY DO NEED AS MUCH INFORMATION AS YOU CAN TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS AND THAT INCLUDES NONRESIDENTIAL PROJECTS. I MEANT TO -- IT IS SUPPOSED TO ADVANCE HERE BUT WHAT I AM PROPOSING OR SUGGESTING IS THAT EVEN FOR NONRESIDENTIAL PROJECTS STAFF SHOULD TELL YOU WHAT ROADS WILL BE IMPACTED, WITH THE IMPACT WILL BE AND WHAT OVERCROWDING IS BEFORE AND AFTER AND THIS IS NOT JUST FOR CONCURRENCY BUT FOR INFORMATION SO WE KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE ROADS WITH EACH AND EVERY PROJECT WHETHER IT IS RESIDENTIAL OR NONRESIDENTIAL. 
          REALLY, IT WILL TAKE CONSENSUS FROM YOU, THE COMMISSIONERS, TO REQUEST THIS CHANGE. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN NOW AND I SUPPOSE THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE EXEMPTION FOR CONCURRENCY AND, THAT IS FINE. JUST SO THAT YOU HAVE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU AS TO WHAT IMPACTS ARE WHETHER IT IS RESIDENTIAL OR --. THAT IS MY PRESENTATION AND I HOPE AT SOME POINT YOU WILL CONSIDER CONSENSUS TO HAVE STAFF BE GIVEN ALL INFORMATION ON THESE PROJECTS. 
          >> THANK YOU, SIR. 
          >> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WHILE WE WORK ON THIS TECHNICAL ISSUE? COME ON DOWN AND BRING YOUR DOG. WE HAVE 
          GOT THIS. >> BILL HENNESSY 5461 FOREST STREET, ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. I AM HERE ONCE AGAIN ABOUT THE DILEMMA WE ARE HAVING AT THE PALMETTO BOAT RAMP. I BROUGHT 
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THAT DOCUMENT AND A COUPLE OF COUNTY PEOPLE JUST GAVE AWAY THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LAUNCH THEIR BOAT. I GOT A CALL AND HE SAID HE HAD THINGS KIND OF STIRRED UP. THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE, WHERE THE HAAS -- AND IT POINTS OUT THAT THE PALMETTO BOAT RAMP IS DOWN THERE. PEOPLE JUMP ON THAT AND I DID THAT 30 YEARS AGO. THEY KNOW ME REALLY WELL. THOSE PEOPLE, LIKE I SAID, THEY TURNED OVER THE RAMP AND GOT THIS HERE. IT IS ALMOST 200 NAMES OF RECLAIM THE PARK AND REPAIR THE RAMP. 
          MR. MCCORMICK WAS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND HE SET IT UP AND HAD A MEETING WITH THE RESIDENCE OF PALMETTO ROAD . WHEN HE CLEARED HIS LOT HE CLEARED IT ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT OF WAY WHICH HE HAD NO RIGHT TO. THEY HAD SURVEY STAKES ANTI-CLEARED BEYOND THAT. THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY LINE. THIS IS WHERE YOU LAUNCH YOUR BOAT AND YOU HAVE FROM HERE TO HERE TO PARK YOUR TRAILER. WHEN YOU DO THAT THEY CALL THE SHERIFF AND THE SHERIFF ENDS UP COMING AND I HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH TRESPASSING SO MANY TIMES. I HAVE BEEN TOLD I CAN'T GO DOWN TO THE BOAT RAMP UNTIL 2028. I WENT THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS AND THAT IS COUNTY RIGHT-OF-WAY BUT WE STILL GO THROUGH THE SAME THING. THESE PEOPLE COME OUT AND THEY HAVE CAMERAS TAKING CARE OF -- PICTURES OF YOU TRYING TO LAUNCH YOUR BOAT. ME AND MY ACCOMPLICE, WHEN WE GO OUT THERE THEY FOLLOW WAS. IT IS UNBELIEVABLE THESE PEOPLE. WE NEED TO GET SOMEBODY THAT WILL HAVE A COMMITTEE TO GO DOWN THERE AND GET WITH THESE PEOPLE AND SAY STAY IN YOUR ASSOCIATION AND STAY OFF THE PEOPLE TRYING 
          TO LAUNCH THEIR BOAT. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC 
          COMMENT. GOOD MORNING . >> GOOD MORNING. I TRIED TO ASK NUMEROUS TIMES AND NOTHING SEEMS TO COME OF IT. SILVERLEAF PAYS $.70 PER SQUARE FOOT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IMPACT FEE AND COMMERCE PAYS $.10 PER SQUARE FOOT. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY IS BEING DEPLOYED. ANYTIME I BRING THAT UP TO ANYBODY TRYING TO DO ANYTHING WITH AFFORDABLE, NOBODY KNOWS WHERE THE MONEY IS. I CAN TELL YOU WITH THE STORAGE IN SILVER LAKE THEY PAID $70,000 SO I KNOW THERE IS MONEY IN THERE TO BE DEPLOYED SO CAN SOMEBODY LOOK INTO THAT? 
          >> GOOD MORNING. SHERRY BADGER 2772 SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE. IT SEEMS LIKE SOMEBODY UP HERE, YOUR SHADOW GOVERNMENT CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON AT THAT BOAT RAMP? HOW COME THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT CAN BE CALLED WHEN THEY ARE PARKING ON A COUNTY EASEMENT? IS THAT TOO HARD TO FIGURE OUT? THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON AT LEAST FOUR YEARS THAT I KNOW ABOUT AND SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE ABOUT IT. DANGER, WILL ROGERS, THE AIRPORT IS RAISING ITS HEAD AGAIN. THE AIRPORT, LET'S LOOK AT THE HISTORY. THE AIRPORT IS NEVER GOING TO BE A BIG AIRPORT. 
          WE HAVE JACKSONVILLE. OF VOLUSIA COUNTY HAS AN AIRPORT ONCE AGAIN, THE AIRPORTS ARE GOING TO TRY TO EXTEND RUNWAYS IN DENSELY 
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POPULATED AREAS WITH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE LOOKING INTO THIS BECAUSE WHEN THEY AIRPORT MONITOR, AND DOUG, THE ATTORNEY FOR THEM, THERE WERE VIOLATIONS SO BE CAREFUL ABOUT GETTING IN BED WITH THE ENEMY. GOD BLESS AND HAVE A GOOD 
          DAY. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYBODY 
          ELSE? >> BJ CLAY, CITY OF WEST ST. 
          AUGUSTINE. THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF WEBSITE PROTECTS AND INFORMS THE PUBLIC AND IT IS SHUT DOWN AND THIS IS A DISSERVICE TO THE PUBLIC. THERE HAVE BEEN 22 MORE ARRESTS FROM JANUARY 29 THROUGH FEBRUARY 7, 2025 WHICH EQUALS 87 ARRESTS SINCE THE START OF JANUARY. PLEASE CONSIDER MOVING COMMISSIONERS REPORTS AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT INSTEAD OF AT THE END OF THE AGENDA. SOME RESIDENTS CANNOT STAY UNTIL THE VERY END AND I WILL CONTINUE TO THANK YOU FOR MOVING PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE FRONT. AS WE TALK ABOUT BLACK HISTORY, I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR QUITE A WHILE IN THIS CITY. THE PRESENT OWNER OF -- IS MR. PATEL. I ASKED WHY THE PLAQUE THAT MEMORIALIZES WHAT HAPPENED AT THE SWIMMING POOL IS ON THE INSIDE WHERE THEY PUT THEIR WALL AROUND THE SWIMMING POOL BUT IT SHOULD BE ON THE OUTSIDE WHERE YOU CAN READ ABOUT THE HISTORY AND WHAT HAPPENED AT THE HOTEL AND THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO PUT UP TWO OTHER PLAQUES DURING THE HURRICANE. I BROUGHT THIS UP TO SOMEONE THIS MORNING AND MR. PATEL IS IN THE PROCESS OF CHANGING THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN WITH THE GARAGE AND OTHER THINGS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY WHICH IS WHERE HISTORY IS AND I HAVE NOT WALK DOWN THERE IN THE LAST HOUR OR SO. WE NEED TO CHECK ON THAT AND ENCOURAGE THEM AND OUR CITY TO ENCOURAGE THEM BECAUSE MR. RIGGINS WHO USED TO BE THE CITY MANAGER NOW WORKS FOR MR. PATEL AND I THINK THAT PLAQUE SHOULD BE VISIBLE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE WALL THAT SURROUNDS THE 
          POOL. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> ED SLAVEN. FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THE CAMERA, TO COMPLAINTS ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS. ONE COMMISSIONER WOULD NOT MEET WITH MR. ASNER AND WHEN ONE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WOULD NOT MEET WITH MR. ASNER AND LEFT IT TO HER CHIEF OF STAFF TO MEET WITH HIM AND WHEN SHE WON'T MEET WITH HIM SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE. WITH ALL OF THESE CIVIL RIGHTS SITES AND STATUES THAT PROTECT US, DO YOU REALIZE 1000 PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED IN ST. AUGUSTINE. THOSE CRIMINAL CASES AGAINST THEM WERE MOVED TO FEDERAL COURT WHERE JUDGE SIMPSON DISMISSED EVERY SINGLE ONE. OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS, SOME STILL ALIVE WERE AMONG THE VICTIMS OF THESE CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS BY THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. IT IS REALLY DISTURBING TO FIND OUT THAT WHEN THE CURRENT SHERIFF ASKED ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE OLD JAIL, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR APPLIED FOR A DEMOLITION PERMIT WITHOUT FOLLOWING THE ADVICE OF THE SHERIFF AND WITHOUT THE REVIEW 
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BOARD. THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED AND WE NEED TO HAVE OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS ABOUT THESE THINGS AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH PUBLIC COMMENT FROM NOW ON, WE NEED TO FOLLOW THE GARY SNODGRASS RULE. GARY SNODGRASS REQUIRED AT THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT THAT PEOPLE ASKED IF PEOPLE ASKED A QUESTION THEY WOULD GET AN ANSWER IN REAL-TIME. SOMETIMES IN THE SWEET BY AND BY YOU WILL GET A RESPONSE. LIKE WHEN MR. REYNOLDS ASKED ABOUT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. WE HAVE A COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT DID NOT EVEN APPLY FOR THE JOB. WE HAD A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR BEFORE THE CURRENT ONE THAT DID NOT APPLY FOR THE JOB. NO BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION, NO VETTING, NO OTHER APPLICANTS. IS THAT A WAY TO RUN A GOVERNMENT DEMOCRACY? DO WE HAVE A DEMOCRACY IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY? DO WE HAVE A MERITOCRACY? I DON'T THINK SO. WHEN YOU DO LIKE SOMEBODY DID TO TREY ASNER AND YOU PROMOTE MEDIOCRITY LIKE THAT, IT IS WRONG. 
          >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS NOT COVERED BY THE AGENDA TODAY? COME ON. NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          >> MY NAME IS MATTHEW MOSS AT 122 UNICORN ROAD ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. WITH REGARD TO THE SOUTH TRAIL I AM HERE TO SAY WHAT A TRAVESTY IT IS THAT YOU GOT DUPED INTO CATERING TO A SMALL MINORITY OF HOMEOWNERS. -- OR PERCEIVED LACK OF YOU FROM A TWO-DIMENSIONAL TRAIL OVER THE SAFETY OF RESIDENTS. WHAT A MONUMENTAL DISAPPOINTMENT. IS THIS HOW YOU WANT TO SET THE NEW PRECEDENT FOR THE PUBLIC THAT YOU CATER TO THE MINORITY OVER THE QUIET MAJORITY? COUNTLESS DUE DILIGENCE -- WHAT A DISGRACE. AS EXPLAINED LAST MEETING A PRIOR FIRE CHIEF AS WELL AS A LONG TIME D.O.T. WORKER GAVE A PROFESSIONAL ASSESSMENT THAT THIS ROAD IS NOT SAFE FOR ANYONE TO WALK ON. WITH THIS BEING DISCLOSED, SOME OF YOU ARE FAILING TO FULFILL YOUR OBLIGATION TO PUBLIC SAFETY. -- FALLS AT YOUR FEET AND THE BLOOD WILL BE ON YOUR HANDS. I HAVE GOT TO BE HONEST. IT KEEPS COMING BACK TO SAFETY.I SAW FOR MYSELF, TWO TIMES WHERE PEOPLE HAD TO GET OFF THE ROAD OR GET RUN OVER. EVERYBODY SAYS THAT WE CANNOT KILL IT SO LET'S GET A SIDEWALK. EVERYBODY SAYS THE SAME THING. WE NEED SOMETHING. WE NEED TO GET SOMETHING DONE. A SIDEWALK IS NOT IN THE CARDS AND NOT POSSIBLE. EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS EXCEPT APPARENTLY YOUR NEW COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS BLATANT EVIDENCE THAT THE ANTI-TRADE TRAIL PEOPLE DO NOT WANT ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY PRIORITIZE THEIR OWN MOTIVES. THERE IS PLENTY OF PARKING AVAILABLE AT LEWIS POINT FOR 20 CAR SO DON'T SAY THERE ISN'T SUFFICIENT PARKING. THE SELFISH PEOPLE HAVE --. RYAN KING WAS QUOTED SAYING COUNTY SURVEYS INDICATE MORE THAN HALF OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEAR THE PROPOSED TRAIL ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT. SOME DO CARE ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE. 
          ONLY A SIDE THAT PROMISED TO BOTH THEM AND IF THEY SQUASH THE TRAIL PROJECT. THERE HAS BEEN COUNTLESS HOURS AND DUE DILIGENCE DONE BY COUNTY MEMBERS AND $146,000 SPENT JUST YET SOMETIMES THE NUCLEUS OF SELFISH PEOPLE HAVE KORVER'S TO -- THIS IS WRONG AND WILL NOT BE ALLOWED AND THIS IS FAR FROM OVER. YOU CANNOT REASON WITH SELFISH PEOPLE THAT PUT THEIR HOME VALUE OR LOSS OF --. IF I AM WRONG ABOUT THE NEW COMMISSIONERS REINSTATE THE GRANT EXTENSION IMMEDIATELY. 
          >> THANK >> MY NAME IS GAIL MOSS AND I 
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LIVE AT 57 BLACKBERRY LANE, PALM COAST. THIS IS TO COMMISSIONERS THAT VOTED DOWN THE EXTENSION OF THE TRAIL. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING OUT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND YOU HAVE HAD MANY PEOPLE STAND UP HERE AND TOLD YOU IN THE PAST THAT IT IS NOT SAFE TO WALK ON SHORE DRIVE. WHEN I DRIVE ON SHORE DRIVE TO VISIT MY SON 100 YARDS AWAY ON THE INTERCOASTAL I HAVE ALMOST HIT DOGS, CHILDREN, PARENTS PUSHING THEIR BABIES IN STROLLERS AND TODDLERS WHO WALK ON SHORE DRIVE. MR. MURPHY WE HAVE YOU ON RECORD INDICATING YOU WITNESSED TWO RESIDENTS ALMOST BEING RUN OVER. IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE PEOPLE ARE KILLED. 
          YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO THAT. WHAT IS IT THAT CHANGED YOUR MIND. IT MUST BE POLITICALLY MOTIVATED OR THE SAFETY OF THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS IS IRRELEVANT TO YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF SHORE DRIVE RESIDENCE WHOSE PROJECTED VALUE IS WORTH MORE THAN THAT OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ALL. WE NEED LEGITIMATE ANSWERS WE NEED LEGITIMATE ANSWERS WHY YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND AS IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE YOU ARE REPRESENTING THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE SOUTH. PALM COAST IS A WATERFRONT PARK. WE HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE ASPHALT TRAIL ADJACENT TO THE INTERCOASTAL. I USE IT FREQUENTLY AND IT HAS BEEN THERE 15 YEARS. NO SIGN OF WEAR AND TEAR, NO TREE ROOTS AND NO CHUNKS OF ASPHALT FALLING INTO THE RIVER. NOBODY CRASHING INTO EACH OTHER. YOU COMMISSIONERS COULD HAVE TAKEN A TRIP THERE AND SEEN IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES BUT I BET YOU NEVER VISITED THERE BEFORE COMMITTED TO NOT EXTENDING THE GRANT. 
          THEIR WAY IS SELFISHLY MOTIVATED. DON'T FALL FOR IT. I FIND IT VERY DISGUSTING TRIS THE MINDS OF A FEW OF YOU COMMISSIONERS TO GET THEIR WAY WHERE THE MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS ARE BEING IGNORED. RE-APPROVE IT IMMEDIATELY. WE ARE ANGRY ABOUT THIS AND WE ARE NOT DONE WITH THIS. THERE ARE CIVIL SERVANTS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT WORK FOR THE RESIDENTS OF FLORIDA LIKE SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN THAT WILL NOT GET JUSTICE CORRECTED. THIS IS NOT OVER. THANK YOU. 
          >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? 
          >> SUZANNE -- LAURELWOOD WAY, UNIT 12302. I WAS NOT GOING TO SPEAK AT ALL BUT SINCE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE GOT UP FOR THE TRAIL, I THINK I NEED TO SAY SOMETHING. THE FIRST THING I NEED TO SAY IS I AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE SAID. WHAT I DON'T AGREE WITH IS I DID NOT HEAR ANYONE SAY THAT THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A SAFE ROAD TO WALK ON. WHAT I HEARD THAT DAY WAS A NUMBER OF YOU, I THINK, WERE HOPING THAT A SIDEWALK COULD BE BUILT SO PEOPLE COULD GET OFF THE ROAD AND ONTO THE SIDEWALK. THEN IT WOULD PLEASE EVERYBODY. THOSE THAT DID NOT WHAT THEY PATH OR THE TRAIL TO GO THROUGH THE PARK WOULD BE HAPPY BECAUSE IT WAS NOT THERE AND THEY WON AND WE WOULD HAVE A SIDEWALK FOR PEOPLE TO WALK ON. THE BIKES AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE A SIDEWALK. I WAS WILLING TO SWALLOW THAT. THE FACT IS I THINK IT IS GOING TO COME DOWN TO YOU ARE GOING TO FIND OUT THE SIDEWALK IS NOT A POSSIBILITY. WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS FOUR , FIVE, SIX YEARS TALKING ABOUT SIDEWALKS, TRAILS, SIDEWALKS, 
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TRAILS. A SIDEWALK HAS NEVER BEEN IN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY. IN THE MEANTIME WE HAVE LOST THE MONEY. WE WILL NOT GET A TRAIL AND WE WANT TO GET A SIDEWALK. YOU WILL LEARN A LESSON. YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE PAST A LITTLE BIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENED AND I REALIZE TWO OF YOU ARE BRAND-NEW AND YOU WERE NOT HERE ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS AND SEEING WHAT WENT ON ALL OF THOSE YEARS AND FOR WHAT EVER REASON, YOU ARE FROM MISSOURI AND YOU HAD TO SHOW ME YOURSELF. YOU WERE NOT GOING TO TAKE WHAT ANYBODY ELSE SAID. I HAVE BEEN LIKE THAT IN MY PAST TOO AND I HAVE LEARNED, DON'T DO THAT BECAUSE YOU MAKE MISTAKES THAT YOU REGRET LATER. I AM DEEPLY DISTRESSED OVER THE FACT THAT THE TRAIL APPARENTLY IS NOT GOING TO GET BUILT AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A SIDEWALK EITHER AND THINGS ARE JUST GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME. AND THE MONEY WILL PROBABLY GET USED SOMEWHERE ELSE. BUT, I DID NOT HEAR YOU ALL SAY YOU THOUGHT IT 
          WAS SAFE. THANK YOU . >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC 
          [1. Presentation of the St. Johns County Surplus and OPEB Investment Portfolios. The St. Johns County Board of County Commissioners Investment Policy, Section XVII Reporting, and OPEB Trust Investment Policy, Section XV, requires the Clerk, or designee, to prepare and submit a written report annually on all invested funds to the Board. Included in the report shall be a complete list of all invested funds, the name or type of security in which the funds are invested, the amount invested, the maturity date, earned income, the book value, the market value and the yield on each investment. PFM Asset Management, LLC, is the County’s investment advisor and has prepared the annual reports for the quarter ended December 31, 2024]
          COMMENT? >> SEEING NONE WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. 
          >> GOOD MORNING . >> GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. IT IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE TO TALK THROUGH THE SURPLUS OPEB TRUST INVESTMENT AND WE ARE HERE TO TALK THROUGH THE LAST CALENDAR YEAR 2024. I WANTED TO PROVIDE A QUICK OVERVIEW ABOUT HOW OUR OFFICE AS THE COUNTY ACCOUNTANT MANAGES PUBLIC FUNDS AND TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT OUR CASH FLOW. NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. SECTION 2833 DIRECTS THE CLERK OF THE COURT TO INVEST COUNTY FUNDS IN EXCESS OF THOSE REQUIRED FOR EXPENSES. THESE EXPENSES ARE COVERED -- GOVERNED BY THREE THINGS. AS PART OF OUR JOB IN THE COMPTROLLERS OFFICE WE MANAGE THE MORE SHORT-TERM WITH BANK ACCOUNTS, FLORIDA PALM AND FLORIDA PALM INVESTMENT FUNDS THEN WITH PFM WE MADE OPEB AND WHAT ARE CALLED THE OPEB SURPLUS FUNDS . WE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE THROUGH THAT. IT THROUGH THE DOLLARS THAT WE MANAGE AT THE COMPTROLLERS OFFICE -- PLEASE STAY ON THAT SLIDE. WILL YOU GO BACK? ONE MORE. RUNWAY. PERFECT, THANK YOU. THE BOA BANK ACCOUNT, THAT IS BANK OF AMERICA, WE HAVE ROUGHLY $12 MILLION. GENERALLY THAT STAYS ABOUT $10 MILLION THAN THROUGH THE SBA PALM WE ARE SEEING A 7% RATE OF RETURN BACK TO THE ACCOUNT THEMSELVES SO WE MANAGE THOSE TERMS BASED ON THE NEEDS AS A COUNTY. WE MAKE SURE THAT PROJECTS CONTINUE FORWARD. 
          FOR ANYTHING THAT IS NOT IMMEDIATELY NEEDED IT IS SHIFTED INTO THE SURPLUS FUND THAT IS MANAGED BY PFM AND THEY ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT PFM MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS THE OPEB FUND. WITH PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INVESTMENT AGREEMENT. IF WE COULD GO BACK,. AS IT IS OUR AGREEMENT WITH PFM HAS A -- NOTICE TO CANCEL. THAT IS FOR THE SURPLUS FUNDS. THE OPEB IS A BIT DIFFERENT BUT WE PAID $90,000 IN FEES. THE EXPENSE RATIO IS LESS THAN THE INDUSTRY STANDARD OF 15 BASIS POINTS SO THAT SHOULD PROVIDE A BIT MORE INFORMATION ON HOW THE RELATIONSHIP WITH PFM -- BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THE NEXT SLIDE WILL BE THE 
          PRESENTATION ITSELF. RICHARD. >> THANK YOU. MY NUMBERS HERE. 
          SO, GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. I WILL GIVE A 
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RECAP OF THE PERFORMANCE OF THE PORTFOLIO, THE LONG-TERM PART OF THE PORTFOLIO THAT WE MANAGE FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2024. THAT IS THE NEXT SLIDE. SO, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OR SUMMARY OF THE RESULTS, THE MAIN SURPLUS FUND PORTFOLIO HAD A RETURN OF 4.53% AND THE LONGER-TERM SURPLUS PORTFOLIO THAT WE CALL THE 1-5 PORTFOLIO HAD A RETURN OF .046% THIS YEAR AND BOTH OUTPERFORMED THEIR BENCHMARK. WITH A-1-FIVE TREASURY INDEX , BY ABOUT HALF A % IN BOTH CASES. WE IN THE INVESTMENT COMMUNITY THINK ABOUT THINGS IN INVESTMENT OR YIELD TERMS. YOU CARE ABOUT DOLLARS SO TRANSLATING THAT INTO DOLLARS THAT IS $10.8 MILLIONIN THE FIRST AND $3.2 MILLION IN TERMS OF THE SECOND FUND. ON THE OPEB FUNDS, THE POST BENEFIT FUNDS, THE RETURN WAS 10.99% SO BASICALLY, 11% FOR THE YEAR. SLIGHTLY UNDERPERFORMED THE BENCHMARK BY 0.4% FOR THE YEAR BUT, THAT FUND, WHICH IS A LONGER-TERM INVESTMENT FUND TIED TO POSTEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS HAS OUTPERFORMED ITS BENCHMARK BY 0.78% SINCE INCEPTION AND IT DID OUT PERFORMED BY 25 BASIS POINTS OR .25% FOR THE QUARTER. THAT TRANSLATED INTO DOLLARS IS $4.5 MILLION. TOTAL COMP THE THREE FUNDS PRODUCED A RETURN OF $21.8 MILLION FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2024. 
          SO, VERY GOOD PERFORMANCE FOR THE YEAR. TO PUT SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS INTO PERSPECTIVE, THE OPEB FUND HAS A TARGET RATE OF 6.5% AS DETERMINED BY COUNTY ACTUARIES. IT WAS A VERY GOOD YEAR IN THAT PORTFOLIO. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I WILL PROVIDE A LITTLE, A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR AND USE THAT TO SET UP WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT OUR OUTLOOK IS. AND THE STRATEGY FOR THE FUND GOING FORWARD SO THE PREDOMINANT THING IN THE EARLY PART OF LAST YEAR WAS THE FACT THAT THE FED IN DECEMBER 2023 INDICATED THEY WOULD STOP RAISING SHORT-TERM INTEREST RATES AND IT WOULD BE LOOKING FOR ECONOMIC DATA THAT INDICATES IT COULD START LOWERING INTEREST RATES AND THE PRIMARY THING THEY WERE LOOKING AT WAS INFLATION. 
          THEY WANTED TO SEE THAT INFLATION WOULD BE COMING DOWN AND THAT WE GIVE THEM A SIGNAL THEY COULD LOWER INTEREST RATES. 
          THE MAJORITY OF COUNTY FUNDS ARE INVESTED ON A SHORT-TERM BASIS AND ARE TIED TO WHERE THE FED MOVES INTEREST RATES SO IT HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON THE LEVEL OF EARNINGS YOU WILL EARN IN ANY GIVEN YEAR. THE COUNTY HAS BENEFITED IN PRIOR YEARS AS THE FED WAS RAISING INTEREST RATES BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS ARE INVESTED SHORT-TERM. SO, AS THE MARKET WEIGHED THAT, A LOT OF THE ECONOMIC DATA THAT CAME OUT IN THE EARLY PART OF THE YEAR INDICATED THAT THE U.S. ECONOMY CONTINUED TO REMAIN STRONG AND AS WE MOVED INTO THE SUMMER WE ACTUALLY SAW A SHIFT WHERE EMPLOYMENT DATA WEEKEND AND THE FED WOULD START LOWERING RATES WHICH, IT DID IN FACT IN SEPTEMBER. IN SEPTEMBER IT LOWERED INTEREST RATES BY HALF A % AND SUBSEQUENTLY LOWERED IT ANOTHER HALF A % OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR. THAT ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTED TO BETTER PERFORMANCE OR IN THE FIXED INCOME PORTFOLIOS. THEY INCREASE IN VALUE AND THEY HAVE A BETTER VALUE. THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE AND THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE RETURNS THAT YOU SAW IN THE LONG-TERM PORTFOLIOS. 
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          >>> ON BALANCE, THE VIEW IN THE BOND MARKET WAS THAT OVER THE LONG-TERM THAT THE TREASURY WOULD NEED TO ISSUE MORE BONDS THAT WOULD SORT OF PUT TOGETHER TAX CUTS, WITH TARIFFS, WITH IMMIGRATION POLICY, WITH A LOT OF DEREGULATION WITHIN THAT BENEFIT WOULD BE INFLATIONARY AND REQUIRES MORE ISSUANCE OF TREASURY BONDS IN THE FUTURE WITH LONG-TERM INTEREST RATES PEAKING. SO WE HAVE, THE FED ALSO WEIGHING THESE AND SAYING WE NEED TO SEE THE IMPACT OF THESE, BUT GENERALLY THINKING THEY COULD ALSO SOMEWHAT INFLATIONARY PUTTING THE FED ON PAUSE WHICH INDICATED IT WOULD BE LOWER INTEREST RATE IN 2025, MORE THAN 2026 , BUT TAKING THESE THINGS TOGETHER WITH LITTLE POLICY CHANGES THE FED WILL LIKELY HOLD SHORT-TERM INTEREST RATES WHERE THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. THIS IS POSITIVE FOR THE COUNTY PORTFOLIO, YOU GET TO ENJOY THESE FIELD LEVELS ARE PERHAPS ANOTHER YEAR WHICH IS GOOD FOR EARNINGS, TO THE EXTENT THAT LONG-TERM TREASURY RATES AND YIELDS ARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, IT IS HELPFUL FOR THE LONGER TERM FIXED INCOME PORTFOLIOS BECAUSE IT SUPPORTS YOU LOGGING IN AND MAINTAINING THOSE LEVELS A LITTLE LONGER. GENERALLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE HAVE DEREGULATION AND TAX POLICY THAT SUPPORTS OUR PRIVATE INDUSTRY, THAT IS GOING TO BE HELPFUL FOR THE PARTICULAR ECONOMIC DOMESTIC PORTIONS, ALL OF THAT PLAYED INTO HOW WE CRAFTED THE INVESTMENT STRUCTURE OF YOUR PORTFOLIOS FOR THE REST OF THIS YEA LOOKING INTO 2026. OKAY GO TO THE NEXT LIGHT. WITH THAT SAID STEPPING THROUGH THE THREE DIFFERENT FUNDS , NEXT SLIDE, JOB AHEAD TWO MORE FOR ONE MORE, ANOTHER ONE. PAUSE AND GO BACK ONE MORE. THIS AND SUBSEQUENT SLIDES CHOICE SNAPSHOT COMPLAINTS SUMMARY OF YOUR PORTFOLIOS WHICH SHOW THE PORTFOLIO IS IN LINE WITH INVESTMENT POLICY IN TERMS OF MATURITY LIMITS AND THE SECTOR ALLOCATION LIMITS AS MEASURED AT THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. 
          GOING FORWARD THE SLIDES. ONE MORE, THE THIS IS A SNAPSHOT SUMMER OF THE SHORTER OF THE SURPLUS FUND PORTFOLIOS SHOWING IT IS WELL DIVERSIFIED IN LINE WITH YOUR INVESTMENT POLICY AND YOUR POLICY IS IN LINE WITH STATE STATUTE. IT IS BENCHMARKED, THE ONE THREE YEAR TREASURY INDEX WITH THE MATURITIES ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT ROUGHLY IN LINE WITH BENCHMARK AND AVERAGE CREDIT QUALITY PORTFOLIO IS AA ON THE SCALE. 
          THE GOVERNMENT READING IS AA PLUS SO SINCE THE PORTFOLIO PRIMARILY HOLDS GOVERNMENT SECURITIES YOUR RATING IS IN LINE WITH THAT. VERY HIGH QUALITY INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO. 
          NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE LONGER OF THE SURPLUS PORTFOLIOS FROM THE FIVE-YEAR, SIMILAR AA CREDIT QUALITY, WELL DIVERSIFIED IN LINE WITH INVESTMENT POLICY. NEXT SLIDE. SKIP AHEAD ANOTHER ONE. THIS IS A SUMMARY OF RETURNS FOR THE PORTFOLIO. I MENTIONED CALENDAR YEAR RETURN WHICH SHOWS MORE DETAILS ON RETURNS OVER THE QUARTER AND THE YEAR AND GOING LONGER-TERM. THE PORTFOLIOS HAVE DONE WELL VERSUS THE BENCHMARK. SAME THING ON THE NEXT PAGE WHICH SHOWS THE SAME INFORMATION FOR THE ONE FIVE-YEAR PORTFOLIO. THE NEXT TWO SLIDES ARE GOING TO SHOW THE ACCRUAL OF INTEREST EARNINGS OVER THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME AND YOU CAN SHOW HOW INTEREST EARNINGS HAVE GROWN ON INVESTMENTS. NEXT SLIDE. IF YOU GO ONE FOR THIS SHOWS EARNINGS 
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ON THE FUNDS IN DOLLAR TERMS, LOOKING DOWN TO THE BOTTOM ROW IT SHOWS THE ANNUAL NUMBERS AND THE THIRD COLUMN FROM THE RIGHT OR THE NEXT TO THE LAST SHOWS THE MARKET VALUE EARNINGS FOR THE PORTFOLIO OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, 4.5 MILLION. ON THE NEXT SLIDE WE SHOW SUMMARY OF THAT RETURN INFORMATION IN TERMS OF YIELDS. AS I MENTIONED, THE PORTFOLIO OUTPERFORMED FOR THE QUARTER. SO GENERALLY THE MARKETS WERE DOWN SLIGHTLY FOR THE QUARTER AND WE WERE NOT DOWN AS MUCH AS THE BENCHMARK FOR THE QUARTER. A LITTLE UNDERPERFORMANCE FOR THE YEAR, BUT OVERALL, THE ABSOLUTE RETURN LEVELS WERE VERY STRONG FOR 2024. SO, AFTER THIS IS A BREAKDOWN WITH MORE DETAIL ON THE DIFFERENT SECTORS AND INDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCE. I WILL PAUSE FOR QUESTIONS. THE KIND OF WENT THROUGH A LOT. 
          >> QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AT THE END. 
          WHENEVER YOU ARE FINISHED. >> I AM FINISHED. 
          >> WE DO NOT DO THAT WELL COMPARED TO LAST YEAR? 
          >> YOU MEAN THE RETURNS? >> YEAH. 
          >> YES. >> JESSE DO YOU WANT TO COME UP? DURING OUR MEETING WHEN WE WENT OVER THIS AHEAD OF TIME, JESSE BROUGHT UP THE POINT THAT HE HAD AN ALARM GO OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR IN JUNE OR JULY. DO YOU WANT TO COME UP PLEASE? THANK YOU. 
          DURING OUR MEETING ON THURSDAY. 
          >> DURING THE COMMISSIONER BRIEFING YES. 
          >> DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF? 
          >> JESSE DONE IN THE BUDGET OFFICE AND DEPUTY COUNTY 
          ADMINISTRATOR. >> WE FIRST OPENED SHE SAID WHAT 
          ? >> BRIEFING LAST WEEK? BASICALLY I HIGHLIGHTED WHAT PFM HAD ON PAGE 3, ON THE SURPLUS FUND WE WERE AHEAD OF THE BENCHMARK RELATED TO THE FUND WE WERE BELOW BENCHMARK, THIS WAS, I WAS NOTIFIED NOT IN JUNE BUT THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS THE COMPTROLLER OFFICE PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION. WITH A PHONE CALL WITH PFM TO REVIEW THAT YES. 
          >> CURIOUS DOES THE BOARD GET NOTIFIED WHEN IT DROPS THAT MUCH? WHAT IS THE PROCESS OR PROTOCOL? BECAUSE IT WENT DOWN A 
          LOT ON THIS. >> ABSOLUTELY, THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BY THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. THESE REPORTS AND THE ANNUAL PRESENTATION IS PART OF THE INFORMATION. I BRIEFED YOU WHEN WE HAD RECEIVED THIS INFORMATION. 
          >> WHEN IT WENT DOWN OR HIT THE BENCH? 
          >> WHEN I RECEIVED THE REPORT WE HAD A FOLLOW-UP MEETING SO I UNDERSTOOD FOR THE BRIEFING AND THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU IN 
          REAL-TIME DURING THE BRIEFINGS. >> I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. I DON'T REMEMBER LAST YEAR TOWARD THE END OF THE SUMMER BEING NOTIFIED WE DROPPED SO MUCH. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PROTOCOL 
          I WAS ASKING. >> THIS IS AS OF DECEMBER 31. 
          >> IF YOU WERE NOTIFIED WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE DURING THE YEAR OR DO YOU NOT NOTIFY HIM THAT THIS WENT WAY DOWN AT THE END OF 
          THE SUMMER? >> WHEN YOU SAY IT WENT ON WHAT 
          YOU MEAN? >> YOU CAN GO BACK TO WHAT PAGE? THE SECOND. KEEP GOING BACK. 
          THE GRAPH ON THE SECOND PAGE I THINK. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE CRITICAL I JUST WANT TO BE AWARE WHEN THIS HAPPENS I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS , THIS IS THE PEOPLE'S MONEY. 
          >> I'M SORRY OKAY. PERHAPS I CAN CLARIFY. THIS IS A GRAPH OF THE TWO YEAR TREASURY YIELD. SO WHEN INTEREST RATES GO DOWN YOUR PORTFOLIO GAINS IN VALUE. SO THIS REPRESENTS A SUBSTANTIAL 
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          GAIN THAT THE COUNTY HAD. >> JESSE TOLD US HE WAS NOTIFIED THERE WAS A PROBLEM AND YOU CORRECTED IT AND I DON'T KNOW 
          WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. >> NOT A PROBLEM. WHAT I MENTIONED WAS THE OVERALL RESULTS WERE BELOW THE 
          BENCHMARK. >> WHO SETS THE BENCHMARK? DO WE 
          OR DO THEY? >> THE BENCHMARK IS SORT OF SET COLLABORATIVELY, STARTING WITH THE ACTUARY SAY THIS IS THE RATE OF RETURN, THESE ARE YOUR FUTURE LIABILITIES HERE IS HOW MUCH YOU HAVE HERE IS THE RATES YOU NEED TO HAVE TO HIT THAT. WE THEN RUN ANALYSIS AND SAY HERE'S HOW YOU NEED TO INVEST THE PORTFOLIO TO HIT THAT OVER THE LONG-TERM. IN THAT CASE THE TARGET RATE IS 6.5% AND YOU HAVE WHAT WE CALL 6535 ALLOCATION BETWEEN EQUITY AND FIXED INCOME. THAT'S BUILT INTO YOUR INVESTMENT POLICY WHICH IS AGREED-UPON WITH STAFF AND YOU ALL SET TO THE POLICY. 
          WE REPORT MONTHLY , STAFF RECEIVES INFORMATION, WE WILL MEET AT LEAST QUARTERLY TO REVIEW. 
          >> THE LAST QUESTION WAS WE WERE GOING TO COMPARE OUR RESULTS TO OTHER COUNTIES AND I KNOW THEIR NUMBERS ARE NOT OUT YET CAN WE 
          STILL DO THAT? >> ABSOLUTELY. I CALLED THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AND TOGETHER WE WILL PUT THAT 
          INFORMATION TOGETHER. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MURPHY? COMMISSIONER MURPHY? 
          >> SORRY MADAM CHAIR. LET ME ASK A QUESTION FOR PALATKA . DO YOU FIND NORMALLY IN THIS FOUR YEAR PRESIDENTIAL CYCLE THAT THE LAST QUARTER OR LAST HALF OF THE ELECTION YOU'RE COMING UP THERE IS A DROP IN STOCK PRICES OR VALUATION ? HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT TREND? SEEMS THERE'S SOME VOLATILITY IN THE MARKET WHEN WE GET CLOSE TO THE ELECTION. IS THAT HAPPENING HERE? 
          >> THIS YEAR IT DID HAPPEN. THE MARKET LARGELY IGNORED THE ELECTION RIGHT UP UNTIL I HAD TO FOCUS. IT WAS FOCUSED ON WHAT THE FED WOULD DO. BECAUSE OF THE RUN-UP AND RATES BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY WILL START REVERSING COURSE AND LOWERING INTEREST RATES THAT HAVE THE BIGGEST IMPACT TOWARD THE END WHEN THE MARKET DID FOCUS ON IT THERE WAS VOLATILITY, A LOT OF VOLATILITY THERE AS WE SEE HOW POLICIES ARE IMPLEMENTED HISTORICALLY IT IS VERY. IT DEPENDS ON THE VIEW OF HOW LIKELY ONE-PARTY IS GOING TO COME IN VERSUS THE OTHER. AND WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS ARE IN THIS PARTICULAR ELECTION THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE TWO. I SAY IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE OF THE DEREGULATION STRONG EXPECTATION OF DEREGULATION AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE TECH INDUSTRY, HEALTHCARE, BANKING AND FINANCIAL AND ENERGY IN PARTICULAR HAD A LOT OF IMPACT ON THE MARKET. I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE EACH YEAR. 
          >> ONE MORE QUESTION. SO THE MONEY WE INVESTED WITH YOUR COMPANY MADE 21.8 MILLION OVER LAST YEAR? AT A COST OF 292,000? 
          >> THAT WAS THE NUMBER RIGHT? >> YES. 
          >> SEEMS FROM A SIMPLISTIC POSITION A PRETTY GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT. AM I READING THAT WRONG? OKAY THANK YOU. THAT'S 
          ALL I HAVE. >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. 
          >> A QUESTION, AND SORRY IF I'M CATCHING YOU OFFGUARD. IN ONE OF YOUR PAST BRIEFINGS ONE YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE YOU EDUCATED ME IN THAT THERE WERE STATUTORY LIMITATIONS ON THE WAY YOU CAN INVEST MONEY. WE CANNOT JUST GO HIRE THE BEST PRIVATE SECTOR INVESTMENT FIRM TO GO TACKLE THE MARKET AND GET THE HIGHEST RETURN. RISK BEING CHIEF AMONGST THOSE CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY 
          ON THOSE LIMITATIONS? >> THE STATUTE TALKS ABOUT INVESTMENT OF PUBLIC DOLLARS AND IT'S BASED ON THE SECURITY OF 
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THE FUNDS, LIQUIDITY AND THE RATE OF RETURN IN THAT ORDER. WE ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO SPECULATE OR WOULD WE PUBLIC DOLLARS, PFM HAS BEEN A GOOD PARTNER TO ENSURE WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE CORRECT RATE OF RETURN. THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF CHECKS AND BALANCES WE HAVE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WITH THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS SETS THE INVESTMENT POLICY AND WE MANAGE THE INVESTMENT ON OUR END AND MAKE SURE PUBLIC DOLLARS 
          ARE MANAGED APPROPRIATELY. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. IT KIND OF OPENED MY EYES TO THE FACT THAT YOU ARE LIMITED BY THE LAW TO CONSIDER RETURN ON INVESTMENT AS THE LAST THING TO CONSIDER. THE 40 BASIS POINTS WE LOST THAT'S A LONG-TERM FUND AND I THINK WE HAVE DONE OVER THE LONG-TERM AND MOVING FORWARD WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO WELL IN THAT FUND. THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT. 
          >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP HERE. 
          WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I DON'T GET TO SPEAK TO THESE GUYS, SO THANK YOU. PUBLIC 
          COMMENT PLEASE? THANK YOU. >> WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? GOOD MORNING AGAIN. 
          >> I HAVE A QUESTION , FIRST OF ALL 21 MILLION IS PHENOMENAL. 
          HOW MUCH DID THE COUNTY HAVE INVESTED TO GET THE RETURN OF 21 MILLION AND IS IT POSSIBLE, BECAUSE INFRASTRUCTURE IS SO UNDERFUNDED THAT THE 21 MILLION COULD BE IMMEDIATELY PUT INTO SOME PENDING PROJECTS LIKE STATE ROUTE 16 OR SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE MOVED ALONG IMMEDIATELY? 
          >> THANK YOU. THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE? WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          >> WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT . 
          >> CAN THE QUESTION BE ANSWERED? 
          >> IF YOU LIKE TO. >> I LIKE TO GET AN ANSWER. 
          >> FOR CIVIL WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT? 417 MILLION? 
          >> YOUR ME TO TALK TO IT? >> IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL 
          FUNDING. >> I GUESS IT FLUCTUATES. 
          >> IF I MAY. WE SEE A SURPLUS FUND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SURPLUS JUST DOLLARS UNALLOCATED, THE VAST MAJORITY ARE RESTRICTED FUNDS SO THEY ARE SIGNED TO A SPECIFIC PROJECT AND AS THE PROJECT COMES FURTHER THEY GET REASSIGNED AND PULLED DOWN OUT OF THE FUNDS. IS THAT FAIR? 
          >> ABSOLUTELY. LOOKING OUT OVERALL RETURN, THESE ARE ULTIMATELY APPROPRIATED TO VARIOUS FUNDS SO WE CAN'T NECESSARILY PUT THEM ALL TOWARD A SINGLE PROJECT INTO RESPECTIVE 
          FUNDS. >> FOR THE 21 MILLION THE REVENUE GENERATED THE INTEREST HAS TO GO TO THE SPECIFIC LINE ITEM FOR THE SPECIFIC PROJECT. BASED ON THE PROJECT TIMELINE OF WHEN THE MONEY IS DUE NECESSARY TO FULFILL THE FUNCTION. 
          >> IF I MAY MADAM CHAIR. SO, SO LET'S JUST SAY HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY IN A PARTICULAR SILO FOR A PROJECT THAT IS NOT BEEN FUNDED YET. ALL THE MINICITY IN THE BANK , SO THE INTEREST RATE OR THE INTEREST ACCRUED FROM THAT MONEY GOES BACK TO THE SAME PROJECT. WHEN THE PROJECT IS DONE WHERE DOES THE EXCESS GO AND CAN IT BE ALLOCATED SPECIFICALLY TOWARD TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE? 
          >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. >> EACH OF THE FUNDS EARNS THE INTEREST WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO ANY REVENUE THAT COMES IN WITH TAXES AND FEES ANY OTHER REVENUE COMES IN WE INCLUDE AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS AND INTEREST EARNINGS. INTEREST EARNINGS FALLS INTO THAT RESPECTIVE FUND BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT FUNDS. LET'S SAY TRANSPORTATION WITH INTEREST EARNINGS PUT IN AND APPROPRIATED AS PART OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS. THAT'S WITHIN CLERK PATTY MADE THE POINT TO THESE ARE NOT SURPLUS FUNDS IN 
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ADDITION TO, INTEREST EARNINGS ARE INCORPORATED IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS. CERTAINLY AT THE END OF THE PROJECT IF THERE ARE BALANCES OF DOLLARS THEY FALL EITHER TO RESERVE OR ARE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD TO BE APPROPRIATED TO ANOTHER PROJECT. 
          >> MADAM CHAIR ONE MORE QUESTION. ALONG THE SAME LINES OF THE QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER MURPHY. HAS IT NOT BEEN POLICY THAT WHEN THERE ARE ADEQUATE FUNDS TO MAKE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT TO NOT ACTIVATE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE OR IS THERE SOME MECHANISM THE BOARD NEEDS TO APPROVE WHAT DO WE PUT THOSE DOLLARS TO WORK AS QUICKLY AS WE 
          CAN? >> WE TRY TO PUT THOSE DOLLARS INTO PLACE MOVING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE UNLESS WE ARE AT A PLACE WHERE WE NEED TO ACCUMULATE IN OF DOLLARS TOWARD THE PROJECT. BUT YES EACH YEAR THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS INVOLVES CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PLAN WHERE WE GET 
          DOLLARS MAXIMIZED >> WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS ALL FIVE COMMISSIONERS WANT TO SEE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE BUILD SO WHEN WE HAVE MONEY TO BUILD THESE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS WE ARE DOING THAT. FULL SPEED AHEAD. 
          >> GOOD DISCUSSION. ANYONE ELSE? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? 
          >> YES MA'AM. MOTION TO ACCEPT INVESTMENT REPORTS PRESENTED BY CLERK OF COURTS AND COMPTROLLER IN THE INVESTMENT ADVISERS PFM 
          ASSET MANAGEMENT. >> SECOND. 
          >> MOTION AND A SECOND. GO AHEAD AND VOTE. 
          >> MY SCREEN IS NOT COMING UP. THERE IT IS, THANK YOU. 
          [2. 2050 Comprehensive Plan Update. The Board of County Commissioners directed staff to utilize a consultant to assist the County through the process of developing an updated plan. The consultant, Inspire Placemaking Collective, will provide an update on the project history, timeline, and next steps.]
          >> UNANIMOUS 5-0 THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO 
          >> THANK YOU, MIKE ROBERTSON, DIRECTOR GROWTH MANAGEMENT. 
          QUICK INTRODUCTION FOR CHRIS DOUGHERTY WHERE WE ARE BEING WHERE WE ARE GOING, OVERALL TODAY WE ARE LOOKING FOR THIS WILL BE THE THIRD AND LAST BRIEFING SUMMARIZING ALL THE COMMUNITY INPUT COMING IN THROUGH STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS OR OPEN HOUSES ALL OVER THE COUNTY WITH FEEDBACK TO THE SURVEY ET CETERA CHRIS WILL GO THROUGH THAT. WE HAVE SOME TIMELINES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH STATE STATUTE SO I WILL GO OVER THAT AS WELL AND FINALLY WE ARE LOOKING FOR ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE BASED OFF HIS PRESENTATION AND FEEDBACK PROVIDED. THE NEXT STEP AFTER THIS MEETING THE INTENT IS THE REDLINE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SO THAT'S REAL SEE THE ACTUAL COMP PLAN WITH REDLINES. SO IT WILL HAVE WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY AND WHAT WE COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY. THAT WILL COME BACK, THIS IS NOT THE LAST BITE AT THE APPLE. AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ARE LOOKING FOR LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION ON HERE. THANK YOU. 
          >> GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AGAIN. ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AT SAINT AUGUSTINE SPEAKING TO YOU ALL IN THIS GREAT COUNTY OF ST. JOHN'S. 
          AS MIKE MENTIONED THIS IS THE THIRD OF THREE UPDATES THIS IS GIVING YOU AN IDEA WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY. WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE QUALITATIVE SIDE WHICH IS THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT , WHOOPS, THIS IS ADVANCING, APOLOGIES. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DATA SIDE OF THINGS WHICH IS THE QUANTITATIVE PART OF THE PROCESS AND THAT IS LEADING TO THE THIRD PRONG WHICH MIGHT MENTION REDLINING OF GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES. WE ARE GOING TO DIG PRETTY DEEP INTO WHAT WE HAVE HEARD SO FAR. YOU WILL HEAR FROM ME ON THE VISION THEMES OR VISION INITIATIVES AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID. THIS IS COMING DIRECTLY FROM THE COMMUNITY. THESE ARE THE PRIORITIES, THE THOUGHTS AND IDEAS THAT WILL THEN FORM THAT COMMUNITY STRATEGY. AND THEN TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS. OKAY, APOLOGIES ON THE FONT, A LITTLE 
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SMALL UNDER WHY UPDATE. AS WE MENTIONED, THIS IS A PROCESS WE GO THROUGH EVERY SEVEN YEARS. WE HAVE TO EVALUATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PART OF THE FLORIDA STATUTE AND IT IS A GOOD IDEA WHEN YOU GET CLOSE TO THE END OF THE HORIZON OF THE CURRENT PLAN TO BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. AS YOU CAN SEE BOTTOM LEFT PART OF THE SLIDE THE HORIZON OF THE CURRENT PLAN IS 2025 SO WE HAVE HIT THE GOALPOST. SO IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT WE TAKE A STEP BACK, LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DESIRES ARE, EVALUATE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PARK AND RECREATION LEVEL SERVICE. WE HAVE COORDINATED WITH STAFF. WE ARE AT THE EARLY POINTS, YOU SET THE POLICY AS THE BOARD ON WHAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE SHOULD BE'S WE WILL HELP YOU COME UP WITH THAT BUT WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME ISSUES, MAYBE WE NEED TO DO SOME TWEAKING. WE HAVE STARTED TO LOOK AT SOME IDEAS. WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT FUTURE OPPORTUNITY. THIS WILL BE A PLAN AT MINIMUM THAT HAS TO GO 20 YEARS, BUT WE ARE SUGGESTING 25 AND WE HAVE THAT LISTED HERE. 
          IT HAS BEEN OUR PRACTICE TO TRY TO TIE THE HORIZON TO LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLANS. WE DO THAT IN MANY COMMUNITIES, IF YOU CHOOSE THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS ON THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. SO AS I MENTIONED YOU HAVE 10 AND 20 YEAR PLANNING PERIOD, AGAIN 20 YEAR BEING THE HORIZON OF THE PLAN WHICH AT MINIMUM WOULD BE 2045. WE HAVE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT POPULATION PROJECTION. WE SHARED THAT DURING COMMUNITY MEETINGS THROUGH THE COUNTY. THE MINIMUM THE STATE REQUIRES IS THE BUREAU OF ECONOMIC AND BUSINESS RESEARCH AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA MINIMUM, THEY PREPARE PROJECTIONS EVERY YEAR FOR EVERY COUNTY. AND THEN IT IS OUR DUTY TO TEASE OUT WHAT THE PERMANENT AND SEASONAL POPULATION MIX IS AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR THE FUTURE. WE DID, AS A COLLECTIVE GROUP COME UP WITH MEDIUM-HIGH IS A PROJECTION. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT DURING PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. SO, AS WE STARTED TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS WE ENDED UP ENGAGING WITH THE STATE THROUGH THAT PROCESS WHICH GIVES ONE YEAR TO UPDATE THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES. AT A MINIMUM ADDRESSING ANY CHANGES IN STATUTES THAT NOW REQUIRE CHANGE TO THE COMP PLAN. SO THAT, WE ARE LOOKING AT AUGUST FOR THE TIMEFRAME TO COMPLETE, AT A MINIMUM TAKING CARE OF STATE STATUTES. AGAIN WE HAVE THE VISIONING THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF INCORPORATING THE PLAN WHICH STARTED WITH THE PROJECT WEBSITE. HAD A GOOD TURNOUT OF 1200 SURVEYS. 357 COMMENTS ON THE IDEA OF ALL WHICH IS REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE HAD FIVE LISTENING SESSIONS, FIVE FOCUS GROUP MEETINGS WHERE WE WOULD DIG INTO SPECIFIC TOPIC AREAS LIKE TRANSPORTATION, HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, PRESERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES. SO WE HAD GOOD DISCUSSIONS UNDER THOSE AND IN THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. WE HAD SIX OF THOSE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, OVER 325 ATTENDEES AND FOUR OPEN HOUSE SESSIONS HERE IN THIS ROOM. THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE STRATEGIES AND ALIGNING WHERE THIS VISION IS HEADED. SO WHAT ARE THE VISION THEMES OR INITIATIVES LOOKING LIKE? APOLOGIES, THIS POWERPOINT IS ADVANCING ON ITS OWN. THE FIRST THING CONSERVE AND PROTECT NATIONAL ENVIRONMENT WILD HABITATS. WILL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT THE STRATEGIES ARE THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS US TO CONSIDER. ENSURE RESIDENTS OF ALL INCOME LEVELS HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS. DEVELOP A PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE FRIENDLY TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. PROTECT AGRICULTURAL LAND BY DIRECTING GROWTH TO AREAS SERVED BY INFRASTRUCTURE. PROTECT AND GROW THE COUNTY WATER SUPPLY SYSTEM. PRESERVE RURAL AREAS AND RURAL CHARACTER. MAINTAIN AND IMPROVE ROADWAYS. EXPAND AND ENHANCE THE PARKS AND RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE SYSTEM. NICE, PROTECT AND ENHANCE HISTORIC RESOURCES. IMPROVE THE COUNTY 
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PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM. OKAY SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DIG IN A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT WE HEARD DURING THOSE STRATEGY SESSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY GOING ONE BY ONE. CONTINUE PURCHASING CONSERVATION LAND. THEY RECOGNIZE THE LAND IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. THEY ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT CREATING A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE. WE HAVE SET ASIDE AD VALOREM FOR IT, BUT MAYBE THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE FUNDING. MAYBE IT'S A SALES TAX, MAYBE IT'S AN IMPACT FEE OR SOME OTHER THINGS WE CAN SET ASIDE FUNDING TO ACQUIRE LAND BECAUSE LAND QUITE FRANKLY IS NOT CHEAP AS YOU KNOW. VERY EXPENSIVE TO GET ANY REAL SIZABLE PIECE OF LAND FOR PRESERVATION PURPOSE. INCREASE PROTECTION OF NATURAL FEATURES, WILDLIFE HABITAT IN THE COUNTY COASTLINE. PROTECT WETLANDS BY PROHIBITING FILLING AND DESTRUCTION AND INSTALLING VEGETATIVE BUFFERS. NUMBER FIVE ADOPT AND ENFORCE A STRONGER TREE ORDINANCE THAT REDUCES AND PREVENTS CLEARCUTTING. I WANTED TO ADDRESS NUMBER FIVE. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT NOW. WE STARTED THAT AND WE HAVE HEARD DURING THE FIRST WORKSHOP THAT WE HAD, WE HAD FOLKS ASKING ABOUT THIS. AND QUITE FRANKLY THEY WERE UNHAPPY WITH THE AMOUNT OF CLEARCUTTING THEY WERE SEEING AND THAT CAN BE A VERY STARK CHANGE. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. WITH RESPECT TO ENSURING ALL INCOME LEVELS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS. ONE, REQUIRE MIXTURE OF HOUSING TYPES FOR LARGER DEVELOPMENTS INTERSPERSED THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          REQUIRE DEVELOPERS TO DESIGNATE A PERCENTAGE OF UNITS IN THEIR DEVELOPMENTS FOR AFFORDABLE UNITS THROUGH INCLUSIONARY ZONING PRACTICES. ENSURE UNITS REMAIN AFFORDABLE 30 YEARS OR MORE. INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT WITH AFFORDABLE UNITS, THIS COULD BE DUPLEX, TRIPLEX, QUADS, MAYBE TINY HOMES. AGAIN THIS IS COMING FROM THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN REEVALUATING YOUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS. IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD MATTER OF PRACTICE TO COME LOOK AT HOW YOU'RE DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS WITH MOST EVERYTHING JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE STAYING WITH THE MODERN TIMES AND MAKING SURE YOU ARE MEETING THE GENERAL PRACTICE OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE EFFORTS TO PROVIDE FOR MULTIPLE OPTIONS IN HOUSING. AND WITH RESPECT TO MAINTAINING AND APPROVING ROADWAYS, NUMBER ONE INCREASE FUNDING FOR IDENTIFYING AND PREPARING EXISTING DILAPIDATED ROADWAYS. NUMBER TWO, INCREASE PUBLIC TRANSIT THROUGH MORE BUS STOPS , MORE FREQUENCY AND NEW ROUTES. NUMBER THREE, MONITOR OPTIONS FOR A REGIONAL RAIL SYSTEM IF THAT EVER BECOMES A REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION SOLUTION IN THE FUTURE. USE NEW AND IMPROVED ROADS TO ENCOURAGE GROWTH IN HIGH GROUND AREAS. 
          AGAIN OUTSIDE OF THE WETLANDS AND MAYBE IN THE AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT MEANT. PRESERVE RURAL AREAS WITH THE RURAL CHARACTER, PROTECT AGRICULTURAL LANDS, WE HAVE GROUPED A COUPLE HERE BY DIRECTING GROWTH AWAY FROM THOSE AREAS INTO THE AREAS WITH INFRASTRUCTURE OR A PLAN TO HAVE ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE FUTURE. NUMBER ONE MAKE THE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY A PROACTIVE TOOL. WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS IN THE COMMUNITY STRATEGIES SECTION. 
          BUT AGAIN, USING THAT TO HELP TO FORCE WHERE THE GROWTH DOES OCCUR. SO YOU ARE TAKING THE GROWTH AND THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN INTO YOUR OWN HANDS NOW. CREATE FARM LAND CONSERVATION PROGRAM TO MAINTAIN AGRICULTURAL LAND. ENCOURAGE DENSITY AND INCREASE HEIGHT MAXIMUM IN DEVELOPED AREAS TO PRESERVE REMAINING AGRICULTURAL LAND. AGAIN FORCING THE NARRATIVE TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT OCCUR IN THE HIGH GROWTH AREAS WHERE YOU WANT TO SEE DEVELOPMENT. REDUCE RELIANCE ON COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS AND REZONINGS. AND THEN FACILITATE AGRICULTURAL LAND PRESERVATION THROUGH STATE, WORLD AND FAMILY LAND PROTECTION PROGRAM. ON EXPANDING AND ENHANCING PARKS AND RECREATION 
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OPEN SYSTEM NUMBER ONE AT COMMUNITY POOLS AND POTENTIALLY A PUBLIC WATER PARK. ADD MORE SHADE STRUCTURES AT THE PARKS. 
          IT'S VERY SPECIFIC. COMPLETE THE EAST COAST GREENWAY TRAIL IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. WE HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS WITH THE TRAIL SYSTEM. REQUIRE NEW DEVELOPMENTS TO ADD A TRAIL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR CONNECT TO THE REGIONAL TRAIL SYSTEM. WITH RESPECT TO IMPROVING THE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS , INCREASE WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR TEACHERS. PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR KIDS TO LEARN A TRADE OR VOCATION. NUMBER THREE EVALUATE TRAFFIC PATTERNS NEAR SCHOOLS AND PLAN FOR DROP OFF AND PICK UP. NUMBER FOUR REESTABLISH QUARTERLY MEETINGS BETWEEN THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE SCHOOL BOARD. THESE ARE SOME CONSIDERATIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS OFFERED. DEVELOP WITH RESPECT TO DEVELOPING A MORE PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE FRIENDLY TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, NUMBER ONE IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE THE INTERCONNECTEDNESS OF THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. WHETHER IT BE CONNECTIVITY WITH ROADS, TRAILS, SIDEWALKS, YOU NAME IT. PROVIDE MORE INTERCONNECTEDNESS THROUGHOUT. EXPAND THE SIDEWALK AND TRAIL NETWORK IN THE COUNTY AROUND PUBLIC FACILITIES AND I WOULD TAKE THAT EVEN FURTHER. 
          MAKING SURE YOU CONNECT DESTINATIONS WITH RESIDENTIAL AREAS. NUMBER THREE INCENTIVIZE MIXED-USE COMMUNITIES. NUMBER FOUR GOLF COURT LANES ALONG MAJOR STREETS INCLUDING A ONE A AND VILLANO IN PONTEVEDRA. VERY SPECIFIC REQUEST. NUMBER FIVE SUPPORT NEW SHARED USE PROJECTS SUCH AS THE EAST COAST GREENWAY AND THE ST. JOHN'S RIVER TRAIL. AGAIN I MENTIONED THE TRAIL PROJECTS, VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. WITH RESPECT TO PROTECTING AND GROWING COUNTY WATER SUPPLY SYSTEM NUMBER ONE INCH OR THE PROTECTION OF RECHARGE AREAS FROM NEW AND EXISTING DEVELOPMENT. INCREASE EFFORTS TO MONITOR, PROTECT AND INCREASE THE COUNTY WATER SUPPLY. NUMBER THREE ELIMINATE SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND INCREASE COUNTY SEWER OPTIONS IN COASTAL AREAS. THIS IS ALREADY STARTING, THERE IS A MANDATE BY THE STATE TO HAVE THE SEPTIC CONSUMER CONVERSIONS . AGAIN, COMPLETE SEPTIC TO SEWER FOR THE AGING SEPTIC SYSTEMS. THAT'S ALREADY STARTED, THAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING AND QUITE FRANKLY IT WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT COST IN SOME COUNTIES WE ARE WORKING WITH, THERE LOOKING, DEPENDING ON THE COUNTY AT ONE POINT TO UP TO $1.5 BILLION TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE CONNECTIONS TO THE SEWER SYSTEMS. SO, REALLY IMPORTANT FOR PROTECTING THE WATER , FOR SURE THE WATER QUALITY IN THE AQUIFER. WITH RESPECT TO RECOGNIZING AND PROTECTING AND ENHANCING HISTORIC RESOURCES, MAKING SURE THOSE RESOURCES ARE RESILIENT AGAINST NATURAL DISASTER, INCREASING OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN ABOUT AND PROMOTE HISTORIC RESOURCES THROUGH CULTURAL PROGRAMMING AND SO FORTH. MAINTAIN, PRESERVE EXISTING HISTORIC SITES AND TRAILS. ENSURE HISTORIC RESOURCES RESILIENT TO SEE LEVEL RISE AND INCREASE RESOURCES DEVOTED TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION. OKAY SO WE LUMPED THESE INTO KIND OF FIVE BIG PICTURE COMMUNITY STRATEGIES. NUMBER ONE, WHERE IS THE GROWTH GOING TO GO? NUMBER TWO, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PROTECT RURAL AREAS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PRESERVE NATURAL RESOURCES? HOUSING AFFORDABILITY WAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES IN SPEAKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THEN ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT TODAY. OKAY SO AGAIN LOOKING AT THE MAP OF THE COUNTY. HOWEVER HE GOING TO DETERMINE WHERE THESE GROWTH AREAS ARE ? WE HAVE THIS RURAL AREA IN THE SOUTHWEST PART OF THE COUNTY WE WANT TO PROTECT SO I WILL BE DO THAT IF WE ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT OF GROWTH TO OCCUR TO ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH ANTICIPATED? THESE ARE JUST IDEAS, LOOK AT LOCATIONS FOR NEW GROWTH AROUND THE INTERCHANGES AND THAT BEING 5 TO 10 YEAR SOLUTION. IS THAT WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS? 
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WHICH ONE OF THOSE INTERCHANGES IS MOST APPROPRIATE? ARE ALL OF THOSE APPROPRIATE FOR GROWTH? AND THEN ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH IN THE 10 TO 20 YEAR TIMEFRAME? DO WE SET A TIMEFRAME ON THESE? MAYBE WE HAVE AREAS OF DEVELOPMENT. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER ABOUT WEST AUGUSTINE. THOSE ARE SOME AREAS WE CAN SEE ADDITIONAL GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT NOW IF WE ARE MOVING THE BOUNDARY SOMEBODY HAS TO COME WITH A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE MAP , THE CHANGE OF FUTURE LAND USE TO SOMETHING TO ALLOW FOR GREATER DENSITY. THEY HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THE AMENDMENT PROVIDES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, JOB PRESERVATION, PRESERVATION OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND OTHER PUBLIC AND IF IT. SO WE MAY ADJUST THOSE CRITERIA TO ADVANCE OTHER THOUGHTS AND IDEAS. MAYBE IT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT I DON'T KNOW. IT COULD BE WHATEVER KIND OF THING YOU WANT TO SEE HAPPEN IN AND AROUND THESE AREAS. OKAY, SO FOR PROTECTING THE RURAL AREAS. WE THINK THE DEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL. 
          WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO USE THAT AND BE PROACTIVE ABOUT HOW WE WILL ADJUST IT AGAIN. WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF LAND THAT YOU CAN DEVELOP, YOU MAY HAVE READ THAT IN THE DATA ANALYSIS PROVIDED. 
          THAT'S IN THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, WE RUN THE CARRYING CAPACITY THAT SHOWS THERE WILL BE A FUTURE DEFICIT. I WILL TEASE IT NOW THERE IS A MEDIUM-HIGH DEFICIT, THERE WILL BE A DEFICIT IF WE USE THE MEDIUM PROJECTION TOO. SO EITHER WAY WE WILL BE AT A DEFICIT OF LAND TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE GROWTH. SO, FOCUS DEVELOPMENT IN URBAN AREAS BY INCREASING DENSITY. AGAIN THIS IS WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT WHERE WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WOULD BE THE PLACE TO INCREASE THE DENSITY TO PROVIDE FOR MIXED-USE THAT WILL THEN, AGAIN TRY TO KEEP IT OUTSIDE OF THE RURAL AREA. OKAY. 
          EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE FARMLAND CONFIRMATION EASEMENT PROGRAM. WE DO HAVE THAT THROUGH THE STATE. MAYBE ADOPT SOME OF THOSE PROGRAM PRIORITIES AND THINGS YOU CAN DO AT A LOCAL LEVEL AND MAYBE PROVIDE A DOUBLING UP EFFECT AND EXTEND THOSE FUNDS OUT FURTHER. THIS CAME UP DURING THE BZA UPDATE, CREATING RURAL FARMLAND ADVISORY BOARD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DECIDED ON BUT THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE WERE THERE. 
          WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY REALLY GREAT IDEA TO ALLOW FOR THEM TO HAVE THAT VOICE. OKAY. WITH RESPECT TO PRESERVING THE NATURAL RESOURCES, THESE ARE SOME COMMUNITY STRATEGIES, PRIORITIZING THE LAND , THAT'S AN EASY ONE. FOLKS REALLY ARE HAPPY WITH HOW THAT HAS COME OFF SO FAR, THE REBIRTH OF IT. WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO FUND THAT. AGAIN IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF A TOUGH AND DIFFICULT DECISION TO MAKE, BUT DEDICATING SOME FUNDS TO THAT AND EVEN DEDICATING FUNDS TO PARK AND RECREATION WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT WE KEEP SEEING POP-UP. PROTECTING THE COASTLINE, BECOMING MORE RESILIENT AGAINST THE SEA LEVEL RISE. AND STORM SURGE, ALL THINGS WE ARE WORKING ON AS A COUNTY, BUT I THINK WE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT MORE. PRESERVING THE CULTURAL RESOURCES, TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORIC RESOURCES AND HOW FOLKS WANTED US TO FOCUS MORE ON HISTORIC PRESERVATION AS A COUNTY. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. 
          I KNOW WE LUMPED IN CULTURAL WITH NATURAL. WE WERE TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE OUR THOUGHTS. LAST BUT NOT LEAST EVALUATION OF THE TREE RESERVATION ORDINANCE WHICH HAS ALREADY STARTED. YOU WILL HEAR AN UPDATE ON THAT HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO. OKAY HOUSING AFFORDABILITY INCREASING THE VARIETY OF HOUSING STOCK. WE TALKED ABOUT THE DUPLEX AND TRIPLEX AND TOWNHOMES, THAT'S 
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KIND OF THE SWEET SPOTS. THE MISSING MIDDLE, THE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENTRY-LEVEL HOMEBUYERS AND THAT DOES HELP DISTRIBUTE THE COST OF THE HOME PRICES HERE IN THE COUNTY. AND THEN ADJUST THE DENSITY. I KNOW DENSITY IS KIND OF A DIRTY WORD AT TIMES AND I UNDERSTAND, WE THINK VERY FIRST MEETING IT WAS ONE OF THE MEETINGS WE TALKED ABOUT DENSITY. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WE DO TALK ABOUT IT THIS TIME. AND AGAIN WE ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE FOR VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES ALSO KEEP DEVELOPMENT FROM SPREADING INTO THE RURAL AREA. SO KIND OF AN APPROACH THAT KILLS TWO BIRDS. EVALUATING THE HOUSING PROGRAMS, ALWAYS A GOOD MATTER OF PRACTICE TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT THAT EVERY SO OFTEN. KIND OF HOW YOU LOOK AT YOUR IMPACT FEES EVERY FEW YEARS. ENSURE ROAD IMPROVEMENT REMAINS ON PACE WITH DEVELOPMENT, THIS IS IMPORTANT WITH RESPECT TO THE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HAVE HEARD IT EARLIER TODAY, EVERY MEETING I HAVE HEARD WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT THAT. MAKING SURE THE CONNECTIVITY IS A PRIORITY WHEN ROADS ARE BEING PUT IN. I KNOW THAT THE CUL-DE-SACS ARE GOOD, I KNOW WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS WITH A LOT OF WETLANDS WE ARE DEVELOPING AROUND. IT CAN MAKE IT TRICKY, THERE IS AN EXAMPLE ON THE SLIDE HERE. THIS IS IN ORLANDO. THAT'S WHERE I AM FROM SO IT'S NOT A GOOD THING TO SHARE, BUT THIS IS THE EAST PART OF THE COUNTY. POINT A ENDPOINT B ARE SEPARATED BY 70 FEET. BILLY HAS TO GO THREE MILES TO GET TO HIS FRIEND JOHN'S HOUSE. ANYWAY THESE ARE EXTREME EXAMPLES OF HOW CONNECTIVITY CAN GO AWRY. OKAY. 
          INCREASED TRANSIT OPPORTUNITIES. AGAIN THIS AS THE STRATEGY SUGGESTS , MAYBE IT'S INCREASING FREQUENCY, ADJUSTING THESE ROUTES, PROVIDING FOR CONNECTIVITY IN THE NORTHWEST AREA TO PROVIDE THAT CONNECTION TO THE MAJOR EMPLOYMENT CENTERS IN THE REGION AND THEN CONTINUING TO MONITOR REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION NETWORK SOLUTIONS . I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY KEY AS WE LOOK OUT 20, 25 YEARS. SO, MAYBE NOT HAPPENING IN THE NEXT 5 TO 10, BUT IF YOU TOLD ME WE WOULD HAVE A COMMUTER RAIL SYSTEM IN ORLANDO 15 YEARS AGO I WOULD'VE TOLD YOU THAT YOU ARE CRAZY. THINGS CAN HAPPEN AND SOMETIMES YOU KNOW WHEN THE FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL IT HAPPENS QUICKLY. NEXT STEPS AS MIKE MENTIONED. WE ARE BUTTONING UP THE DATA ANALYSIS WHICH IS HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK. YOU HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU. WE WILL BE GOING INTO THE REDLINING, THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES THIS SPRING. AND THEN LOOKING AT THE TRANSMITTAL. TRANSMITTAL SHOULD HAPPEN AT MINIMUM IN AUGUST. TO ADDRESS STATE STATUTES BUT WE ARE TARGETING EARLY SUMMER . AND WITH THAT ANY DISCUSSION? 
          >> BEFORE WE OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE 
          BOARD? >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. 
          >> IS MR. CAIN HERE? ON THE PARKS AND REC SECTION OF WHAT WAS IN THE AGENDA PACKET, TABLE 9 HAS A LOT OF THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF SURPLUS LAND IN ACTIVE PARKS AND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF SURPLUS LAND PROJECTED OUT TO 2050, FOR PAST PARKS. 
          THAT DOES NOT JIVE FROM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTY. WE DID A BONDING PROGRAM TO BUILD FOUR REGIONAL PARKS WHICH WILL CATCH US UP NOW, THAT MAY SERVE THE POPULATION MOVING IT TO 350,000 PERMANENT RESIDENTS, MAY BE BEING OPTIMISTIC TAKING US TO 400,000, BUT WE ARE PREDICTING 
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THE POPULATION TO BE 497,000 PERMANENT RESIDENTS BY 2050 THEN THERE IS NO WAY THE CURRENT ACTIVE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WILL BE ABLE TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF 500,000 RESIDENTS BY 2050. I WAS HOPING YOU COULD ENLIGHTEN ME AS TO HOW WE ARRIVED AT THE SURPLUS ACREAGE IN THIS TABLE. 
          >> SURE. PART OF IT HAS TO DO WITH HOW WE CATEGORIZE THE PARKS AND HOW WE DECIDE WHAT PARKS AND FACILITIES ARE PART OF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE. THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TALKED TO RYAN AND HIS TEAM ABOUT AND QUITE FRANKLY IT'S A POLICY DECISION. THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO CALCULATE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR PARKS AND RECREATION AND YOU CAN DIG AS DEEP AS PROVIDING HOW MANY BASKETBALL COURTS PER 1000 PEOPLE SHOULD BE HAVE IN THE COUNTY? THAT MIGHT BE TOO MUCH DETAIL BECAUSE OVER TIME AS YOU KNOW DESIRES IN RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY CHANGE. THERE WAS A TIME 15 YEARS AGO SOCCER WAS NOT THAT POPULAR. IT IS IMMENSELY POPULAR. DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED WITH PICKLEBALL. I AM BEING SERIOUS BECAUSE IT WAS NOWHERE, NOW WE ARE FIGHTING OVER TENNIS COURTS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS. 'S WE DON'T WANT TO GET TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL BUT THERE ARE SOME TWEAKS WE NEED TO MAKE AND THAT'S THE IDEA. HERE IS HER CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT MAKING IT INTO PASSIVE AND ACTIVE. SO WE ARE TESTING TWO IDEAS. WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT FURTHER. IS THERE A THIRD GROUP WE NEED TO LOOK AT? 
          >> SURE, ARE YOU NEAR THE PODIUM? YOUR FRIENDS IN THE PICKLEBALL MAFIA THEY WOULD HAVE PICKLEBALL BECOME IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. SIR, PLEASE, MR. CAIN YOUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC HERE AT ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. YOU AND I HAVE MET WITH USER GROUPS, DO WE HAVE A SURPLUS OF FACILITIES TO MOVE INTO 2050 IN 
          YOUR OPINION? >> SURE, THROUGH THE CHAIR, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE HEARD THE SAME CONVERSATIONS, WE ARE TESTING NOW PUSHING THE LIMIT. WE HAVE SOME YOUTH SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE NOT ALLOWING REGISTRATION TO GO EVEN FURTHER WHICH IS A CHALLENGE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE WITH THE NEW REGIONAL PARKS TODAY. YOU ARE RIGHT WE ARE CHALLENGED THERE. FOR US THE BIGGEST USERS ARE TRADITIONALLY K-8 AND I WOULD IMAGINE WE WOULD ADD QUITE A FEW SCHOOLS AS WE GO AS WE WENT THROUGH WITH PARKS. I HAVE BEEN WRAPPING MY BRAIN AROUND THIS AND WE WOULD NEED TO GO BACK WITH A CONSULTANT. WE HAD CHANGE AND TRIED TO CLASSIFY ACTIVE VERSUS PASSIVE AND IT DID NOT SEEM RIGHT TO ME. I FOUND WE ARE OFF ON THE EGG SO I WOULD WANT TO GO WORK WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY SHOW 6000 ACRES OF ACTIVE PARKS AND GOING TO THE CHART THEY HAVE ADDED UP 1400 WHICH WOULD MATCH WHERE WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF HAVING THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF PARKS AND I WOULD GROW AS THE POPULATION GREW SO WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK AND GO BACK WITH THEM AND REPORT BACK ON THEM TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ACCURATE NUMBERS. 
          >> I KNOW WE ARE HERE TO GIVE YOU DIRECTION. FEEDBACK ON THIS ITEM IT DOES NOT JIVE WITH WHAT I AM SEEING ON THE GROUND WITH THE PARKS DIRECTOR'S OPINIONS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NUMBERS THAT MAKE SENSE HOWEVER YOU HAVE TO REVISE YOUR DATA. BUT AS FEEDBACK I CANNOT SUPPORT A PLAN THE PROJECTS A SURPLUS OF ACTIVE PARKLAND. THERE IS NO SURPLUS. 
          THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD STUFF WORK AND COMMUNITY INPUT, WE FINALLY GOT CAUGHT UP WITH THE NEEDS OF OUR CHILDREN AND ADULTS. LET'S NOT SET BACK 20 YEARS BY APPROVING WHAT'S ON 
          THE TABLE. >> DID YOU COUNT THE HOA PARKS? 
          NOT EVERYONE CAN GO TO THEM. >> I DON'T BELIEVE THOSE WERE 
          INCLUDED IN THE LIST. >> I COMPLETELY AGREE. I HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS IN PEOPLE INVOLVED IN YOUTH SPORTS PROGRAMS. WE HAVE A HUGE SHORTAGE OF FIELD SPACE AND WHEN KIDS ARE TURNED AWAY BECAUSE THEY CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN A 
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SPORT THAT IS JUST WRONG AND THAT CANNOT BE. I KNOW I HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE, BUT I'VE BEEN SUCH A PROPONENT FOR THE PARKS FOR MANY MANY MANY YEARS. PARKS THEY ARE BUILDING NOW WE NEEDED 10 YEARS AGO. SO I KNOW WE ARE BUILDING THEM NOW BUT WE ARE ALREADY IN A HUGE DEFICIT AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN BUILT YET. 
          >> COMMISSIONER MURPHY. >> I WOULD ADD MY VOICE TO THAT. 
          ONE CHALLENGE WE HAVE WITH THE NEW PARKS. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF WHAT WE HAVE IN THE NORTH AND NORTHWEST, BUT THE SOUTHEAST IS ONE OF THE FASTEST-GROWING AREAS AND WE ARE DEFICIENT. I APPRECIATE THE PARK BUT THAT'S CLOSE TO ALL WE HAVE. JUST ADDING MY VOICE TO YOURS. 
          >> I ALSO HAVE I AM STILL IN SHOCK OVER RUNNING OUT OF LAND COMMENT AND WANTED TO BUILD THE WHOLE COUNTY. I WAS PUT HERE TO PROTECT THE COUNTY AND STOP THE GROWTH AND THIS IS PROMOTING THE GROWTH. ESPECIALLY BY THE NUMBERS YOU PICKED MEDIUM TO HIGH. YOU CANNOT REALLY SAY THAT BECAUSE IT COMES TO WHO IS APPROVING, HOW MANY HOMES ARE BEING BUILT AND THE SOURCES ARE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY 2023 SO IT IS A MIX OF MULTIPLE PROJECTIONS WITH A MIX AND I AM ACTUALLY KIND OF , YOU HAVE 1% OF THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK OUT OF 300,000 PEOPLE BUT THE THREE PEOPLE ELECTED ARE 60% OF THE COUNTY AND WE WERE ELECTED TO SLOW THE GROWTH. I AM NOT HAPPY MOVING THE BOUNDARY LINE AT THE TENURE POINT AND I KNOW THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR WHAT'S OUT THERE AND I'M SORRY THAT'S WHERE I AM. I AM THE PEOPLE'S PERSON AND I AM LISTENING. I KNOW YOU'RE FROM ORLANDO AND YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS ORLANDO BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BE ORLANDO. WE LIKE BEING HERE THE WAY WE ARE. THIS HIGH DENSITY IS NOT ONLINE WITH WHAT I HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC. THAT'S MY OPINION. 
          >> REGARDING THE FUTURE LAND USE I WILL ADMIT I WOULD LIKE TO DO A TENURE OR 35 YEAR PLAN WE DON'T NEED TO GO THAT FAR OUT. 
          >> I AGREE. >> COMMISSIONER MURPHY. 
          >> DURING THE PRESENTATION I WROTE A NOTE. ONE THING I WANT TO TRY TO DO IS I WANT TO BE SMART ABOUT GROWTH GOING FORWARD. THIS IS THE NOTE. RECEIVING OUR HEADS IN THE SAND ABOUT PROJECTED GROWTH? I SAY THAT IN THIS. WE HAVE HAD A HISTORY IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY SAYING WE DON'T NEED TO BUILD THEM STRUCTURE BECAUSE IF WE BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE PEOPLE WILL COME AND THEN WE FIND PEOPLE COME ANYWAY AND WE DON'T HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE. NOW WE ARE FOR THE BEHIND. IS THERE A HAPPY MEDIUM TO ADDRESS THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OTHER CHALLENGES WE HAVE THAT IS NOT GOING TO SPREAD LIKE A CANCER TO PLACES IN THIS COUNTY WE DON'T NEED IT TO GO? I HEAR YOUR COMMENTS MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER TAYLOR AND I AGREE THAT'S ONE REASON WE WERE VOTED, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I DON'T WANT TO DO, I DON'T WANT TO STICK MY HEAD IN THE SAND ABOUT THE REALITY OF WHAT'S COMING TO THE AREA AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF WE CANNOT ACCOMMODATE ALL THE GROWTH THAT'S PROJECTED, AT LEAST WE DON'T CLOSE OUR EYES OR PUT ON ROSE-COLORED GLASSES FOR THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO SOLVE SOME 
          ISSUES GOING FORWARD. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. SO I THINK YOU, THAT WAS A VERY ASTUTE OBSERVATION. STOPPING AND STICKING OUR HEADS IN THE SAND IS NOT GOING TO FIX THE PROBLEM WE HAVE AND I APPRECIATE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU BROUGHT UP. 
          INTERCONNECTIVITY WAS AN EXAMPLE , THAT IS SOMETHING I LIVED HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WHERE WE FOUGHT A METER DEVELOPER FROM INTERCONNECTING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YEARS LATER WHAT A COLOSSAL MISTAKE THAT HAS BEEN. WE CONSTANTLY SEE PEOPLE COMING WITH DEVELOPMENTS AND RESIDENTS FIGHT CONNECTIVITY AND THAT IS SIMPLY GOOD PLANNING AND SOMETHING TO FOCUS ON GOING 
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FORWARD. I DON'T KNOW WE CAN FIX THE ERRORS OF THE PAST. 
          REALISTICALLY WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY. THEY ARE GOING TO COME ANYWAY SO WE NEED TO BE SMART. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING UP THE MISSING MIDDLE. THAT'S A REAL SOLUTION, A REAL POSSIBILITY AND I APPRECIATED YOU INCLUDING THE REPORT , THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO REMAIN HYPER LOCAL BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT THROUGHOUT THE STATE WITH DIFFERENT GOVERNING BODIES, BUT THE VISION FOR THAT WAS THE LAND AND FARMERS DIRECTLY AFFECTED IN THE COUNTY SO THANK YOU FOR 
          INCLUDING ALL OF THOSE. >> WE ARE MEETING IN THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. THE LAST COMMENT. UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE SAYING BUT THEY'RE NOT THINKING AT VARIABLES. WE HAVE DIFFERENT VARIABLES IN THE FUTURE AND I DID TALK TO A PERSON WHO PREDICTS THE FUTURE. WE CAN'T EVEN PREDICT THE WEATHER IN FIVE YEARS. WE CAN PREDICT THAT THERE WILL BE A HURRICANE AND PEOPLE ARE LEAVING LIKE SARASOTA. 
          PREDICTING THIS KIND OF GROWTH IN THIS KIND OF PERIOD, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE AND IF YOU LOOK AT ONE OF THE PIECES THAT CAME FORWARD, THE ROBINSON PIECE, THEY SAID THAT WOULD BE READY TO GO IN 2018? SO I FEEL LIKE WHAT WE ARE DOING IS SHOWING PEOPLE WHERE WE ACCEPT GROWTH AND LET'S GET IT DONE QUICK WHEN THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT AND WE MAY HAVE A SURPLUS OF HOUSING AND THEY'RE NOT FILLED, WE HAVE CLEAR-CUT LAND SITTING FROM TWO OR THREE OR FOUR YEARS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN BUILT OUT. SO I AM CONCERNED WE ARE USING NUMBERS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE FOR WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT. 
          >> I THOUGHT OF ONE MORE COMMENT. 
          >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> THANK YOU I KNOW WE HAVE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF HOUSING PROJECTS ENTITLED AND NOT YET BUILT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AN OVERLAY OR SOME TYPE OF MAP TO SEE WHERE ARE THE ENTITLEMENTS. I HAVE HEARD 56,000 OR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LESS BUT REMEMBER THOUSANDS OF HOMES ARE ENTITLED AND NOT EVEN BUILT YET. JUST WANTED TO 
          ADD THAT. >> SHOULD WE GO TO PUBLIC 
          COMMENT? >> GOOD MORNING. PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. PLEASE STEP FORWARD. 
          >> JOE MCINERNEY 1005 BLACKBERRY LINE, THE PRESENTATION I PUT TOGETHER WAS TO TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARIES. I APPRECIATE THE GREEN LINE . WHERE DO THEY NEED TO BE IN 2035 AND 2050 ? IN PART THE ANSWER LIES WITH PROJECTED POPULATION. 
          WE HEARD FROM CHRIS DOUGHERTY. IN PART THE REPORT HE DID NOT SHOW WAS THAT THEY EVALUATE HISTORIC POPULATION TRENDS IN ORDER TO MAKE THEIR DETERMINATION. I DO HAVE TO SAY THAT THOSE HISTORIC POPULATION TRENDS HAVE RESULTED IN 45% OF ROADS BEING OVERCROWDED AND WE HAVE 13,000 STUDENTS , THOSE ARE THE HISTORIC TRENDS THAT WE DO NOT WANT. EXCUSE ME HERE. WE DO NOT NEED THOSE HISTORIC TRENDS, WE NEED NEW THINKING BASED ON SLOW THE GROWTH REALITY. 45% OF ROADS , 13,000 STUDENTS THOSE OF THE REALITIES. THE STATE REQUIRES MEDIUM POPULATION PROJECTIONS SO WE ALSO DON'T NEED MEDIUM-HIGH. I HAVE HEARD SIMILARLY, 56,000 HOMES APPROVED BUT NOT BUILT AND THE SOURCE IS ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. ST. JOHN'S COUNTY USES 2.75 PERSONS PER HOUSEHOLD. SO WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED 155,000 PEOPLE CAN MOVE 
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HERE AND COMMISSIONER MURPHY WITH RESPECT YOU TALK ABOUT PUTTING OUR HEADS IN THE SAND. WE HAVE APPROVED SO MUCH ALREADY, WE ARE WAY WAY BEHIND. WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH ENTITLED LIBERTIES ALREADY. I DON'T THINK WE ARE PUTTING OUR HEADS IN THE SAND, WE'RE GETTING TOUGH, ROLLING UP OUR SLEEVES AND SAYING NO. THAT'S THE REALITY. THANK YOU FOR NOT STARTING THE CLOCK. SO THE PROJECTION I AM LOOKING AT MEDIUM THERE ALREADY IS AND COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, THERE IT IS. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE TELLING US. SO IF WE WORK WITH. , I THINK I'M HITTING THE RIGHT BUTTON BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S NOT ADVANCING. OKAY THANK YOU. I DID NOT LEARN ANYTHING. I AM HITTING THIS ADVANCED BUTTON I BELIEVE. IS THAT THE RIGHT BUTTON? OKAY. SO LOOK HERE OUR GROWTH WILL BE 89,000 PEOPLE USING THE MEDIUM, WE HAVE APPROVED 155,000 SO OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS WE DO NEED TO MOVE THE AREA BOUNDARY ONE INCH. SO, THERE YOU GO. GIVING UP DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY HOW ABOUT THE 25 YEAR PROJECTION? LOOKING AT THE MEDIUM NUMBERS THERE YOU GO. THAT MEANS WE WILL GROW 176,500. WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED 155. GROWING IN 25 YEARS I 21,000 PEOPLE. DOING THE MATH THAT'S 311 HOUSES EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS. SO THE QUESTION THAT I ASK IS WHERE DO WE SET 20/50 DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY? BE CAREFUL BECAUSE THE 1990 COMP PLAN AND MAYBE THAT'S NOT RIGHT DESIGNATED AN AREA OFF OF 206 AND 95. GUESS WHAT THE APPLICANT CAME IN, KINGS GRANT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS NOT THERE SO IT WAS DENIED, THEY SUED THE COUNTY AND THERE YOU GO. I SAY WE NEED NO EXPENSE FOR THE 2050 BOUNDARY LET APPLICANTS MAKE THEIR BEST CASE FOR DEVELOPMENT. 
          JUST AS CHRIS HAS OUTLINED, ECONOMIC BENEFIT, JOB CREATION ALL IN THE CONFERENCE A PLAN. LET THEM MAKE THEIR INVESTMENT. 
          SO I CONCLUD BY SAYING WE NEED NO ADJUSTMENT BOUNDARIES 2035 OR 2050. I THINK I HAVE DONE IT, THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. YES MEN. >> REPRESENTATIVE COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY HE HAD A PERSONAL EMERGENCY. ONE THING WE WERE LOOKING TO PRESENT, WE MET WITH STAFF AND PLACE MAKING AND HAD PAID $15,000 WHICH WE BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD TO GET A STUDY THAT ADDRESSED THE NUMBER OF UNITS TO SHOW HOW IT'S FALSE. WE HAVE A PIE CHART THAT SHOWS THAT SO WE WILL PRESENT THAT FOR YOU ALL TO LOOK AT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE THERE'S NOT NEAR THAT NUMBER OF UNITS. 
          MANY ARE EXPIRED AND IF ANYONE CAME TO BUILD A SINGLE UNIT THE COUNTY WOULD SAY NO IT'S EXPIRED, COME IN FOR MAJOR MOD SO THE UNITS DO NOT EXIST, THE NUMBER IS CLOSER TO 30 AND WE WILL APPROVE THAT THROUGH MULTIPLE STUDIES. CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONALS, CHRIS DOUGHERTY IS A PROFESSIONAL. HE HAS BEEN TO SO MANY MEETINGS, HE DOES HIS JOB, THE REASON THIS WAS CHOSEN TO DO THIS WORK IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO NOT LOBBY PERSONAL ATTACK BECAUSE YOU LIVE SOMEWHERE TO SAY YOU HAVE A SKEWED VIEW I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR . THIS WILL BE A LITTLE BOUNCY. CONSERVATION WAS NUMBER ONE, THE COUNTY HAS 30% OF LAND IN CONSERVATION. ALMOST 1/3. CONSERVATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN IMPORTANT AND THE COUNTY HAS BEEN GETTING IT DONE SO 
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IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER. AFFORDABILITY. INTERESTING THAT CITIZENS SAY AFFORDABILITY IS IMPORTANT, BUT EVERY TIME AFFORDABLE PROJECT COMES BEFORE THE BOARD IT GETS DENIED SO I HOPE YOU HEARD WHAT CITIZENS SAY, AFFORDABILITY IS IMPORTANT SO THE NEXT TIME SOMEONE BRINGS A PROJECT BEFORE YOU THAT IS AFFORDABLE THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN, THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING, PLEASE APPROVE IF IT IS A GOOD PROJECT. PROTECT THE RURAL AREAS BY GETTING RID OF CONCURRENCY. WHEN GOOD PLANNING DOES NOT TAKE PLACE UP FRONT WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TODAY DEVELOPERS LEAPFROG OUT WITH CONCURRENCY FORCING THEM TO. IT WAS A RESET SING DENSITY IN THE RIGHT PLACES. IF YOU'RE UP AGAINST THE INTERSTATE, SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE, THAT'S WHERE THE DENSITY GOES AND WE WON'T HAVE TO LEAPFROG. MORE UNITS ON THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY SO THERE'S A LOT MORE LAND FOR CONSERVATION AND FOR THE FARMER. WE HAVE TO DO SMART PLANNING AND THIS IS WHAT'S TRYING TO BE DONE. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE. WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT SAYS , I AM ON THE WATER CONSERVATION COMMITTEE WHERE WE ARE REWRITING THE RULES. SMALLER LOTS REQUIRE LESS WATER. KEEP THAT IN MIND. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, ADDRESS ] TO BE HONEST WE'RE STILL REVIEWING THE LENGTHY AND THOROUGH REPORT THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE UPCOMING COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO FAR WE ARE FINDING MUCH TO BE APPRECIATED AND AGREE WITH THEIR WORK. ONE OF THE TOP ISSUES OF CARE CONCERN HAS LONG BEEN ADJUSTING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. 
          THAT'S THE REASON WE ARE PLEASED TO SEE THE INSPIRED PACE CONDUCTING WITH WELL NEEDED MANY TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX. CARE AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR QUITE SOME TIME. FOR EXAMPLE THEY SUGGEST CREATING ADDITIONAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE ORGANIZATIONS TO CENTRALIZE FOCUS AND INCREASE AFFORDABLE HOUSING EFFORTS. WE AGREE AND SUGGEST YOU MIGHT CASH CALLS SUCH AS INDEPENDENT ORGANIZATION, ST. JOHNS COUNTY HOUSING SOLUTIONS. WE WILL ALSO IMPRESS INSPIRED PACE MAKING BETWEEN HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR EXAMPLE SECTION J RECOMMENDS MORE FLEXIBLE DENSITY AND DIVERSE HOUSING AND RECOGNIZING POTENTIAL FOR MORE MIXED INCOME AND MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENTS WHICH IS SOMETHING ELSE CARE HAS ADVOCATED FOR. WE VERY MUCH CARE AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THE THOUGHTFUL DETAILED FINDINGS INSPIRED PACE MAKING TO INFORM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. WE WILL SHAVE, REVISE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES FOR THE PLAN TO HELP YOU GUIDE OUR BELOVED COMMUNITY IN ITS PROSPEROUS FUTURE FOR ALL RESIDENTS. WE HOPE WE WILL GET TO SEE THE DRAFT ONCE IT IS REVISED WITH THE COMRADES OF PLAN VERY SOON. I WANT TO ADD TO THE NOTES , WE ARE IN A TOUGH SPOT RIGHT NOW. RUNNING OUT OF LAND, YOU DON'T WANT DENSITY AND YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE COMING IN. WE HAVE TO PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND DEAL WITH IT. WE WILL HAVE HOMELESSNESS, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO CANNOT AFFORD HOUSING. HOMELESSNESS IS GOING TO GROW. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE DIRECTIONS BECAUSE THE MORE WE PROSPER THE MORE PEOPLE ARE DOWN AND BEHIND. WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR THE UNDERSERVED PEOPLE AS WELL AS THE GROWTH WE BRING TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE THREE OF YOU WERE PUT HERE TO STOP THE GROWTH. YOU CANNOT STOP IT. IT IS GROWING AND WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF LAND SO WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. THANK YOU, HAVE A BLESSED DAY. 
          >> NICOLE CROSBY, 1169 NECK ROAD. SHE ALWAYS MAKES A LOT OF VALID POINTS EVEN THOUGH WE ARE ON OPPOSITE SIDES. I DO HAVE TO REFUTE THE ONGOING STATEMENT ABOUT 30% OF THE COUNTY LAND PRESERVED OR PROTECTED. I WOULD ASK INSPIRED TO ME WITH THE RIVER KEEPER WHO CAN SHOW DATA IT'S MORE LIKE 23%. I KNOW WE 
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HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH MANY TIMES BUT THAT DATA NEEDS TO BE VERIFIED , 30% CANNOT STAND. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION. 
          INSPIRE HAS TO LOOK AT SO MANY VARIABLES AND I RESPECT THEM, AFTER TRYING TO PREDICT THE FUTURE, ONE VARIABLE I NEVER HEARD THEM MENTION IS THE POLITICAL VARIABLE. IN 2022 WE WERE THE FASTEST-GROWING COUNTY IN THE STATE. AND THE PENDULUM STARTED SWINGING BACK AFTER WE HAD TREMENDOUS APPROVALS , THERE WAS A POLITICAL BLOWBACK ON THAT. PEOPLE WANTED TO SLOW THE GROWTH, NOT STOP THE GROWTH, SLOW THE GROWTH THAT HAS CAUSED AND WHEN I HAVE OBSERVED TO BE A BIG CHANGE WE DO NOT SEE THE NUMBERS A BIG DEVELOPERS WITH PROPOSALS AND AMONG COMMISSIONERS WHO TRADITIONALLY HAVE VOTED MORE HEAVILY IN FAVOR OF THOSE PROPOSALS WE SEE THEM TURNING THEM DOWN. ACROSS THE BOARD ALL FIVE OF YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SLOWING THE GROWTH AND EVEN YOUR PREDECESSORS TO SOME EXTENT AFTER 2022 WHEN THEY LISTENED TO THE PUBLIC. I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT IS THE FUTURE GOING TO BRING, UNLESS THERE IS A RADICAL CHANGE IN THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE PRESSURE ON OUR COMMISSIONERS TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO KEEP THE APPROVAL NOT LET THEM GET TO THE HIGH RATE THAT THEY WERE FOUR YEARS AGO. THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. YOU KNOW THE 20/50 PREDICTION SEEMS RIDICULOUS AND I DON'T SEE WHY WE'RE USING THE HIGHEST PROJECTIONS. I KNOW WE'VE HEARD THAT 1 MILLION TIMES. HE CAN STATE THAT MUCH MORE ELOQUENTLY AND THE LAST COUPLE OF SECONDS I WANT TO SAY UNDER PRESERVE NATURAL RESOURCE PRIORITIZE LINE TO ACQUIRE CONSERVATION AND PASSIVE RECREATION OPPORTUNITY, LAMP HAS BEEN A BIT OF A DISAPPOINTMENT BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE COMMISSIONERS CONTINUING TO IMPROVE PRESERVE LAND. THE COMMISSIONER ALMOST STOPPED DOING THAT SO MANY TO NOT SEE LAMP AS THE ONLY, IT IS ONE IN THE MIX AND I'M HAPPY TO LEARN RECENTLY IMPACT FEES CAN HELP IMPACT THAT, THANK YOU. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS JUDY SPIEGEL, OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO THANK INSPIRE PLACE MAKING. I WAS IMPRESSED AS I GOT THROUGH THE 120 SOMETHING PAGES OF REPORT THAT WAS FASCINATING. CAN'T WAIT TO DIG INTO IT. THIS IS AN AREA I HAVE BEEN PASSIONATE ABOUT, KOREANS OF PLAN AND CHANGING. I AGREE WITH A COUPLE OF THE COMMENTS FROM MY INVOLVEMENT THAT HAS NOT BEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT APPROVED IN MY EXPENSE. A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN DENIED OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS I THINK A LOT OF THINGS WERE APPROVED PRIOR THAT ARE COMING UP NOW AND THIS IS THIS REELING AND JARRING PLACE OF ROADS, MORE PEOPLE, SO HERE WE ARE IN A PLACE WHERE WE TALK ABOUT MOVING DEVELOPMENT BOUNDARIES, ALL THE PEOPLE COMING OR NOT COMING, FLORIDA IS NOT AS ENTICING OF A PLACE TO LIVE AS IT WAS BECAUSE OF A FEW THINGS, INSURANCE BEING ONE OF THEM. COST OF LIVING HAS CHANGED SO I DON'T THINK THE GREAT RIVER OF INFLUX WE WERE GOING TO HAVE WILL CONTINUE AND I BELIEVE WITH THE POLITICAL COMMENT WITH PEOPLE COMING AND NOT COMING BASED ON POLITICAL ATMOSPHERE IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAS CHANGED. 
          THERE ARE SEVERAL FACTORS YOU CANNOT PREDICT AND PROJECT. SO I DEFINITELY LOVE THIS SLOW THE GROWTH. INFRASTRUCTURE, LOOKING AT THE REPORT WILL NEVER CATCH UP WITH THE BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. WE CAN BE SMART GOING FORWARD. BEING CREATIVE AND COMING UP WITH NEW IDEAS THAT ARE NOT JUST DEVELOP, DEVELOP, WE NEED WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE. PEOPLE HERE, OTHER PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE COUNTIES ARE NOT COUNTED INTO THOSE FACTORS AND THEY WORK HERE SO THE NUMBERS NEED TO BE REFLECTED AS WELL. I LIKE THE IDEA OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, FIXING WHAT WE HAVE, CHANGING WHAT WE HAVE AND MAKING IT APPLICABLE FOR PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE. THOSE ARE CHANGES WE CAN DO WITHOUT HAVING TO DO MORE DEVELOPMENT, DEVELOPMENT IS COMING. I SEE THERE'S THE LIVE LOCAL THING COMING UP OFF OF 95 AND 207. THE 
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OTHER THING WAS ABOUT LAMP, HOW ABOUT THE IDEA OF VOLUNTEER DONATIONS? PEOPLE CAN ADD $10 TO THE WATER BILL. I WOULD DO THAT, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS , YOU SAY WITH THE CONFIRMATION, PUT A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY BUT WE DON'T PUT THE TAX BURDEN ON EVERYBODY. IF YOU WANT TO DONATE THEN YOU MAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO. 
          HAT IS A FUNDING SOURCE LOOKED AT. I THINK THERE'S CREATIVE WAYS TO LOOK AT THIS BUT WE NEED TO HAVE BROAD MINES AND LISTEN TO EVERYBODY'S OPINION. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO, I KNOW YOU LOVE THIS COUNTY AND WANT THE BEST FOR US. 
          CARRY-ON. 
          >> GOOD MORNING. >> HI THERE COMMISSIONERS I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. VIVIAN BROWNING. I AM LUCKY TO BE IN THE PICTURE THERE. I COULD BE SITTING ON MY FRONT PORCH, VILLANO IN THE TOWN CENTER GOING THROUGH SURFSIDE AND ONTO NORTH BEACH. THESE COMMUNITIES WERE PLOTTED IN THE 1920S. SO REMEMBER, REMEMBER US WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, WHY NOT REDEVELOP, TAKE OLDER AREAS AS WE HAVE AND REDEVELOP RATHER THAN DOING PUD'S AND AREAS YOU WANT TO SALVAGE AND PRESERVE? I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF IDEAS. THE 200 PAGES ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, I HAVE LOOKED THROUGH THEM ALL. THE ONLY ITEMS THAT HAVE MIXED USE TOWN CENTER OR NEW TOWN OR TOWN CENTER IS PROBABLY 200 ACRES IN THE WHOLE COUNTY. ONE WAY WOULD BE TO LOOK AT REDEVELOPING OR USING WALKABLE OR USING PRESERVING LAND AROUND THESE AREAS. I WOULD ASK YOU TO DO THAT. I GO BACK TO THE 1980S WHEN I SERVED ON DUVAL COUNTY'S CITIZEN ADVISORY TO THE 2010 PLAN WHICH WAS ON THE FIRST , THE FIRST GROWTH MANAGEMENT ACT OF THE MID-80S. I HAVE HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS AND I'M PROUD OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN VILLANO BY USING THESE CONCEPTS. 
          BUT IN THE 20 YEARS WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS, 25 YEARS A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE NOT LATCHED ONTO THIS, BUT THEY SHOULD BECAUSE IT WOULD SOLVE SEVERAL OF THESE PROBLEMS YOU WILL ARE TALKING ABOUT. ONE THING IS THE REDLINE COMING UP. 
          HOPEFULLY WE WOULD GET TO SEE THIS, TO SEE IF ANY OF OUR HARD WORK TIME IS STILL IN ON OUR COMMUNITY. SO I AM ASKING FOR THAT. ONE THING WE HAVE IS INFRASTRUCTURE WITH CAPACITY. IF YOU COME TO VILLANO , THANKS TO CALDWELL BACK THERE. I WILL TELL YOU, HE WAS A YOUNG MAN IN 2006 TWO 2008 HE INSTALLED INFRASTRUCTURE WITH CRA FUNDS AND WE ARE VERY PROUD OF HIM AND HE WAS VERY RESPECTFUL AND HARD-WORKING. COME TO SEE WHAT'S BEEN DONE THERE AND WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO NOT CAUSE MORE COST. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO KEEP US INVOLVED. 
          THOSE OF US WHO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS AND OFFER THEM TO THE REST OF THE COUNTY. I THINK WEST AUGUSTINE, FLAGLER ESTATES, WITH THE CRA ARE GOOD EXAMPLES OF REDEVELOPMENT THAT IS NOT TAKING THE NEW LAND THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, USING PRIOR 
          UNUSED LAND . THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          >> GOOD MORNING, LOOKING AT THE ROOT CAUSE ANALYSIS WHICH THE ENGINEER WOULD DO. LOOK AT 2016. KNOCK A TEAM DELETED THE BCC BEFORE ANY OF YOU WERE ON THE BOARD. THEY CAME TO THIS BOARD WITH THE HAT IN THEIR HAND WHICH IS THE SAME LOBBYIST THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS. ASKING TO CHANGE PUD FOR NOCATEE AND TAKE OUT 40 ACRES DEDICATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 5-0 THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DID THAT. OUR PROBLEMS ARE OF OUR OWN CREATION. ANY PROBLEM THAT CAN BE CREATED BY MEN CAN BE SOLVED BY MEN AND WE NEED TO DO 
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THAT NOW. WE NEED TO MAKE FAIR HOUSING PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE NEED A PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY. WE NEED TO MAKE THE CR ARE BE MEANINGFUL STARTING WITH HAVING MEETINGS IN THIS ROOM. THERE OFTEN A ROOM, A STINKY LITTLE CORNER WITH SIGNS ON THE DOOR THAT SAY STAFF ONLY AT THE SO-CALLED GROWTH MANAGEMENT BUILDING. OF COURSE GROWTH MANAGEMENT YOU WILL AGREE IS, THAT IS A FALSE TROPE. IS AN OXYMORON, GROWTH MANAGEMENT WE DON'T MANAGE GROWTH WE RUBBERSTAMP GROWTH. HARKENING BACK TO ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES I MET IN 2005 AND CINDY STEPHENSON WAS THERE WHEN THEY WERE DEDICATING A LANDMARK SITE SIGN. I'M COMING IN FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AT THE HOME AND I HEAR CINDY STEPHENSON TALKING TO MY LATE FRIEND DEVELOPMENT SO I BAILED OUT FROM TWO ROOMS AWAY AND I SAID NO, ONLY 149 TIMES OUT OF 153 TIMES IN THE LAST THREE YEARS. LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, THIS WAS CORRUPTION. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PARK GROUP STARTED BY THE SPOUSE OF THE FORMER SHERIFF, NEIL PERRY'S WIFE STARTED THE GROUP. THEY GOT MONEY FROM JACKSONVILLE DEVELOPERS TO RUN CAMPAIGNS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, THEN THEY SCRUNCHED THE NUMBER OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FROM SEVEN, TO FIVE AND MADE ALL OF THEM ELECTED AT LARGE. WE NEED THOROUGH VOTING REFORM TO PREVENT CORRUPTION STARTING WITH, CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A COUNTY CHARTER? WE TRIED TO GET ONE YEARS AGO IT WAS A BAD CHARTER WE VOTED IT DOWN TWICE BUT WE NEED STRUCTURAL AND FUNCTIONAL REFORM AND THEY NEED TO START SOON. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> ENVY YOUR JOB WHATSOEVER. WE ARE LOOKING WAY OUT TO TRY TO PREDICT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND I AGREE WITH YOU COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, WE NEED TO KNOW HOW MANY HOMES ARE NOT BUILT THAT ARE AUTHORIZED RIGHT NOW. NOT A PIE-IN-THE-SKY, TRUE FACTS. IF THEY HAVE EXPIRED, GET THEM OFF THE BOOKS AND GET RID OF THEM BECAUSE NOW IT IS A FALSE IMPRESSION FOR US IN THE AUDIENCE. WE HAVE NO IDEA. WE SEE THE 56,000 WE ARE THINKING OH MY GOSH, WE CANNOT AFFORD WITH WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PLAN WE CANNOT AFFORD IT THIS COUNTY CANNOT AFFORD IT. WE HAVE 94 INADEQUATE ROADS , YOU CANNOT AFFORD RIGHT NOW TO FIX THOSE CURRENTLY. YOU'VE GOT TO REDO THIS COMP PLAN REALISTICALLY AND LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT , BUT IT HAS TO GET DONE. I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH GROWTH YOU SLOW DOWN THE ROADS ARE INADEQUATE AND I JUST FOUND OUT FROM D.O.T. BEFORE THE FIRST SHOVEL IS PUT INTO 16 IT'S A MINIMUM OF TWO YEARS OUT. FOR THE FIRST SHOVEL TO GO IN. 
          ANOTHER FIVE YEARS ON TOP OF THAT FOR COMPLETION. 16 IS OVERCAPACITY. WE HAVE GOT TO LOOK AT THE COMP PLAN SERIOUSLY. 
          YOU KNOW BRIAN KANE HAS AN ISSUE WITH THE PARKS. WE HAVE AN ISSUE , NOT RYAN. WE HAVE GOT TO GET TOGETHER WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND FIND OUT WHY THEIR FIELDS ARE NOT BEING USED. THEY ARE VACANT. YOU HAVE KIDS TURNING AWAY FROM SPORTS, I THOUGHT SPORTS WAS PART OF THE EDUCATION PROCESS. I HOPE THE SCHOOL BOARD INVOLVEMENT IN THIS COMP PLAN SERIOUSLY INVOLVED , BUT WE HAD TO START WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD WHEN IT COMES TO KIDS WORKS. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> TWO THERE. 
          ] I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF AND READING TO THE REPORT WAS TOUGH TO GET THROUGH ALL OF THAT BUT MY COMMENTS SOME SPECIFIC MOSTLY BIG SCALE PRACTICAL. 25 YEARS IS A REALLY LONG TIME, 25 YEARS AGO 
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IN 2000 WE DID NOT HAVE SMART PHONES. NO ONE COULD PREDICT THE WORLD WE LIVE IN NOW 25 YEARS AGO. THE CONCERN OF A 25 YEAR PLAN IS REAL, TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW 25 YEARS FROM NOW. WE ARE ASKING THE BOARD TO CONSULT USING A FIVE-YEAR LAND-USE ELEMENT, THE REPORT LAST YEAR TO THIS DAY USING TENURE FOUND THE COUNTY HAD A SURPLUS OF HOUSING 70,000 RESIDENTS. SURPLUS OF 70,000 OVER 10 YEARS IS SIGNIFICANT THAT MEANS YOU DON'T NEED TO EXPAND THE BOUNDARY NOW AND MAYBE IN 10 YEARS THE COUNTY COULD CONSIDER, BUT IT SEEMS IF YOU HAVE A GOOD TENURE SURPLUS WHY DO IT THIS FAR IN ADVANCE? IT DOES NOT SEEM PRACTICAL OR LOGICAL. UNDERSTAND THE STATE REQUIRES 10 YEAR AND 20 YEAR ELEMENT TO THE COMP PLAN AND I KNOW THE STATUTE SAYS THAT. GOES ON TO STATE AND STATUTE , IT CONTINUES TO SAY THE PLAN SHALL ACCOMMODATE AT LEAST MINIMUM AMOUNT OF LAND REQUIRED TO ACCOMMODATE MEDIUM PROJECTIONS AS PUBLISHED BY THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS SO IT SEEMS PRETTY CLEAR YOU CAN DO A 10 YEAR PERIOD FUTURE GROWTH PROJECTIONS. ONE SPECIFIC THING WE SAW ON THE ACTUAL REPORT PRESENTED. A 4 PARAGRAPH TWO STATES THE VACANT AREA INSIDE THE BOUNDARY AREA LIMITED IN CAPACITY COULD NOT SUPPORT ADDITIONAL 36,000 UNITS NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE PROJECTED POPULATION BY 2050. I DON'T THINK 2050 IS A GREAT TIMETABLE BUT EVEN IF WE WERE TO DO THAT YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE LAND HAS CAPACITY UNLESS YOU TALK ABOUT DENSITY. IF YOU GIVEN OF DENSITY YOU COULD MAKE IT TO 2050 AND KEEP THINGS, MORE ECONOMICAL FOR THE COUNTY FOR THE DENSITY TO BE HIGHER WHERE THE SERVICES ARE. NOT 20/50 BUT USE THAT AND STILL FIT EVERYTHING INTO THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY AREA. THE LAST THING TO CONSIDER IS POTENTIALLY A SUPER MAJORITY FOR FUTURE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS. I HAD CONFLICTING THOUGHTS WHEN WE FIRST HEARD THIS BUT YOU ARE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY AND TIME TO MAKE A PLAN AND IT SHOULD HAVE SOME TEETH AND MEAN SOMETHING. IF IT IS JUST CHANGED EVERY TIME SOMEONE WANTS IT WHY SPEND THE TIME AND MONEY TO DO IT? THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT THINGS IN THE PLAN, I HAVE THREE MINUTES I CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE GREAT THINGS IN THE PLAN. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING ADDRESS ] FIRST MY GRATITUDE TO THE STAFF AT INSPIRE FOR THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE DEVELOPING THIS REPORT AND TAKING FEEDBACK AND FOR HIGHLIGHTING THE IMPORTANCE OF CONSERVING NATURAL RESOURCES. THAT BEING SAID HAVE A COUPLE RECOMMENDATIONS TO OFFER TO INSPIRE IN AMENDING THE REPORT . THERE IS A SECTION CALLED WATER QUALITY THAT TALKS ABOUT PRESERVING WATER QUALITY BUT DOES NOT TALK ABOUT THE STATUS OF WATER QUALITY. 
          SPECIFICALLY SECTION 2.1.1.6 DISCUSSES ST. JOHN'S COUNTY HAS THREE OUTSTANDING WATERWAYS, WITH SUCH TENSE IMPORTANCE THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTED TO A DEGREE THE WATER QUALITY IS NEVER DEGRADED. IT IS ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO MEET QUALITY STANDARDS BUT FAILS TO MENTION ALL THREE ARE ALREADY POLLUTED SO STATUS QUO FOR DEVELOPMENT IS NOT WORKING TO PROTECT WATER RESOURCES AT THIS TIME, SECTION 2.1 .13 ENTITLED WETLANDS SAYS WETLAND FEATURES ARE PROTECTED BY DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT'S A BIT OF A OVERSTATEMENT. THERE ARE REGULATIONS IN PLACE TO DISCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT IN WETLANDS BUT WE NEED STRONGER PROTECTIONS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL TO MAKE SURE DEVELOPMENT IS STEERED AWAY FROM FLOOD PRONE AREAS TO MAKE SURE THE WETLANDS ARE PROTECTED. FINALLY DISCUSSION ON EXPANDING DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY. I WOULD ARGUE DRAWING CIRCLES ON A MAP IS NOT THE BEST WAY TO PLAN FOR FUTURE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE CIRCLES ARE, THOSE ARE SWAMPS, FISHTAIL SWAMP, TRESTLE BAY SWAMP, ALL OF THOSE ARE THE HEADWATERS TO THE TRIBUTARIES OF MOSES CREEK, POULTRY CREEK, THAT FEED THE ESTUARY. SO IF WE ARE PUTTING DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE AREAS NOT ONLY DO WE PUT PEOPLE IN HARM'S WAY BUILDING ON FLOOD PRONE AREAS, WE ARE ELIMINATING THE FILTRATION SERVICES THAT SWAMPS PROVIDE TO HELP MAINTAIN AND PRESERVE WATER QUALITY. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNTY TO LOOK AT THE WETLAND MAP INCLUDED IN THIS REPORT, TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THE SOIL MAP THAT SHOWS HOW 
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MUCH OF THE COUNTY IS EITHER POORLY TRAINED OR POORLY DRAINED SOIL AND KEEP IN YOUR MIND THINKING ABOUT WHERE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE OR TAKE PLACE. AND FINALLY ONE LAST COMMENT IS WE HAVE DONE A MAPPING ANALYSIS TO LOOK AT THE CONSERVATION LAND IN THE COUNTY AND THE FIGURE WE CAME UP WITH THIS 24% OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND CONSERVATION. THE FOLKS AT THE JS DEPARTMENT DO A FANTASTIC JOB BUT THERE WERE ERRORS WITH THE MAP THAT WE ARE HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY AND TALK THROUGH BUT THE DATA SUPPORTED BY THE FLORIDA NATURAL AREA INVENTORY ASSESSMENT AS WELL SAYS A QUARTER OF THE COUNTY IS IN PRESERVATION AND THE INSPIRE REPORT CAME UP WITH 26.8% OF THE COUNTY IN CONSERVATION. SO IT'S GOOD BUT NOT A THIRD. 
          >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ROAD. I'M TRYING TO LEARN ON THE FLY HERE. I LIVE BY THE INTERSECTION OF INTERNATIONAL GULF PARKWAY AND 95 AND I THINK UNANIMOUSLY THROUGHOUT EVERYONE CAN AGREE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO EXPAND A LOT , IT MAY BE NECESSARY AND THE WISEST THING TO DO IS TO NEGOTIATE ON THE ALREADY APPROVED GROWTH AND AREAS COMMONLY KNOWN TO HAVE THAT GROWTH. SO A ROOM FULL OF QUESTIONS I WILL OFFER YOU AN ANSWER. CHANGE THE USE OF THE LAND. THIS IS A NICE ONE. LOOK AT THE MAP, SEE THE GREEN DOT, THE GREEN RECTANGLE? THAT IS RURAL CIVIL CULTURE , THE CROSSHATCH AREA IS AREAS GROWN IN THE LAST 20 PLUS YEARS CHANGING LAND-USE. TO MIXED-USE OR HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. 
          WHATEVER IT IS, WHICH IS THEIR RIGHT. ALL I AM SAYING IS WHEN THROUGH AND WAS EXPANDED THEY SHOULD'VE CHANGED MY LAND-USE AND WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO? LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT THE LITTLE DOTTED AREA ACROSS FROM ME. THAT GUY IS SITTING IN WAITING HE HAS 40 ACRES, HE IS WAITING , HE KNOWS BECAUSE IT IS A INTERCHANGE. ACCORDING TO THE FELLOW WE JUST HEARD , ALL COMMUNITY STRATEGIES , ALL FIVE . WE ALL AGREE THESE ARE NO-BRAINERS. PROTECT RURAL AREAS. DECREASED DENSITY OF MY PLACE. IT IS A NO-BRAINER. PROTECT NATURAL RESOURCES, ALL ON THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, I WOULD NOT WANT YOUR JOB , IT IS A MARKET-BASED , MORE DEMAND RAISING LIVING HERE LITTLE SUPPLY PEOPLE LOVE THE FLORIDA GOVERNOR, THEY LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU GET MORE FREEDOM HERE. WHEREVER YOU GO, ANYTIME YOU INCREASE FREEDOM YOU INCREASE LIKABILITY. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, ROADWAY STRUCTURE. I'M PRETTY DARN CLOSE TO TAPPING INTO INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND ME. THERE IS SEWER ALL AROUND ME , I'M LITERALLY IN A DOUGHNUT HOLE. I HAVE WOODS THERE A LITTLE BIT. ONE TIME IT WAS A NATURAL AREA AND IN REALITY AS A COMMUNITY VIEWPOINT THE GROWTH IS GOING TO COME. SO, IN ORDER TO GIVE YOU GUYS ANSWERS WITH ALL THE QUESTIONS I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'VE GOT AN ANSWER FOR YOU, PLEASE FIX THE ISSUE. 
          THIS SHOULD NOT BE RS ANYMORE IT SHOULD BE MIXED-USE. THANK YOU. 
          >> ANYONE ELSE? >> KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN. I GUESS WHERE I BEGIN IS THIS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LAND , TYPES OF HOUSING, COMMERCIAL, WHERE WE WANT ALL OF THESE THINGS. AND WE WANT TO DO ALL OF THIS, WE DON'T WANT DENSITY, WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE PEOPLE TO MOVE YOUR VERY MUCH. SO WHAT IS IT THAT WE REALLY WANT OUR RESIDENT 
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POPULATION DIVERSITY TO LOOK LIKE WHEN WE'RE GOING OUT 10 AND 15 YEARS? WHAT DO WE WANT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE TO LOOK LIKE? I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE , IF WE STICK TO WE DON'T WANT THE DENSITY AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ANYTHING ELSE X OVER THE APPROXIMATELY 30,000 WHICH AGAIN LIKE THE TRAIL WE KEEP COMING BACK TO THAT . I COUNTED ALL OF THEM ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. I GOT LESS THAN 30. THERE IS A LIST AND IT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT HERE BEFORE. WHICH , AS YOU'RE DRIVING OUT THOSE THAT CANNOT AFFORD A $500,000 NOW HOME AND YOU ARE GOING TO SEND THEM OVER TO PUTNAM COUNTY TO LIVE. ONE THING I WOULD SAY, WE NEED A TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM BETWEEN SAINT AUGUSTINE AND PUTNAM COUNTY. SO THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WE DEPEND UPON TO WORK IN OUR RESTAURANTS AND THESE FIRST EVER PLACES CAN GET BACK AND FORTH TO WORK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE REDEVELOPMENT. WEST AUGUSTINE IS NOT GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT IT DOES TODAY. BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ONLY LAND AVAILABLE. TEAR THEM DOWN AND BUILD UP NEW. IS THAT WHAT WE WANT? THINK ABOUT IT. RIGHT NOW, WE DID NOT HAVE APARTMENTS FOR SO LONG THAT WHEN WE FINALLY FIGURED OUT THAT WE WANTED THEM, THEY OVER BUILT NOW WE HAVE HIGH VACANCY RATE IN APARTMENTS, BUT THAT'S OKAY WE'RE GOING TO NEED THOSE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN HOUSES UNLESS THEY ARE EARNING FAMILY INCOME MAYBE $150,000 A YEAR. SO I GUESS I'M GOING TO GO LIVE IN PUTNAM COUNTY. 
          >> THANK YOU, ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? GOOD MORNING. 
          >> I AM RUTH HOPE FROM 133 NEPTUNE ROAD . I AM HERE ALSO SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE FULL PROCESS AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE COUNTY HAS GONE THROUGH THIS CONSULTATIVE PROCESS. I PERSONALLY WAS AT THE PONTEVEDRA WHERE ATTENDED, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN THE REPORT THAT WERE PART OF THE AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING. I WANT TO FOCUS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE FACT THAT TODAY WE ARE 10,000 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS SHORT OF THIS COUNTY. WE HAVE HEARD ALL THE ARGUMENTS ABOUT NOT MOVING THE BOUNDARY . WE HAVE HEARD ARGUMENTS ABOUT THAT ARE ALREADY SO MANY THOUSANDS OF HOUSES APPROVED, BUT TODAY WE ARE SHORT 10,000 AFFORDABLE UNITS . THE CURRENT LAND-USE PROMOTES SUBURBAN GROWTH SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND ITS OWN SUSTAINABLE INFRASTRUCTURE. EVEN WITH A SLOWDOWN, WITH A MORATORIUM ON DEVELOPMENT. I STRONGLY RECOMMEND TO YOU , THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND TO THE MANAGEMENT UNIT THE WORK OF YOU LOOK AT THE FRIENDS OF FLORIDA WEBINAR, THE ECONOMICS OF DEVELOPMENT IN FLORIDA AND FOLLOW-UP BY READING THE REPORT RECENTLY PUBLISHED BUT LOOK AT THE WEBINAR FIRST. IT WILL BE BROUGHT TO LIFE WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE THAT YOU HAVE NOTED AND HOW IT CAN BE ADDRESSED. WE NEED TO LOOK AT CHANGING THE LAND USAGE. WE ARE PROMOTING SM COMMUNITIES AS REPORTED IN THE 
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REPORT ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. WE NEED HIGH DENSITY HERE TO ADDRESS THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING THROUGH MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT. I WANT TO RAISE THE ISSUE OF HOW WE DEFINE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. REQUIRING 80 TO 120% AMI FOR TWO YEARS AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS TO BE UNACCEPTABLE WE MUST REVISE THIS TO REQUIRE 30 TO 60 AREA AMI , 30 YEARS TO CATCH UP ON THE DEFICIT IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. TALKING ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING AND HOUSING FOR THE WORKING POOR . SO I REALLY AGREE WE NEED A HOUSING AND I'M PLEASED TO SEE THE REPORT SAYS IS FOR POTENTIAL FOR ESTABLISHING ADDITIONAL HOUSING ASSISTING, THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. COME FORWARD. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> YES, 12:00. FOOD TRUCK. 
          NAME ] WEST CITY SAINT AUGUSTINE. REALLY INTERESTING. 
          THANK YOU FOR OPENING PUBLIC COMMENT. DEVELOPERS FROM JACKSONVILLE AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY ARE ABOUT MONEY AND MANIPULATING STAFF INCLUDING POLITICIANS. MR. MCENERY DOES HIS RESEARCH. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. I HEARD ON THE RADIO. FORGET THE TV, GET THE RADIO. 40 IS THE NUMBER ONE PLACE TO RETIRE. 
          COUPLE DAYS AGO ON THE RADIO, THEY ARE COMING. THIS IS IMPORTANT, TOO. USING A WORKFORCE HOUSING TO OVERBUILD IS WRONG AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON. I WANT TO KNOW AND MAYBE THERE'S DOCUMENTATION BUT I THINK OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS TO KNOW HOW MANY ACTUAL AFFORDABLE UNITS HAVE BEEN BUILT. WE NEED TO KNOW THE FIGURE NOW. 20 67,000 NOT AFFORDABLE. KEEP SAYING IT BUT IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE. IT GETS DOWN TO THIS. GREED THAT'S WHERE WE ARE VERSUS QUALITY OF LIFE, IF END OF COMP PLAN IS QUALITY OF LIFE YOU TO SAY NO NO NO NO NO, YES YES YES AND IT'S ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE AND I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY UP THERE HAS GOT THAT. I THINK THERE IS DIVISION AMONG THE POLITICIANS AND IT COMES OUT WHENEVER YOU VOTE BUT IT IS ABOUT THE MONEY, FINE, BUT WE HAVE NOT TAKEN CARE OF INFRASTRUCTURE, SCHOOLS AND OTHER THINGS AND YOU CANNOT KEEP DOING THIS. AND I WILL SAY THIS AGAIN. AND AGAIN AND AGAIN EVERY TIME I GET A CHANCE. ANYONE WANT TO GUESS? I THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. DID EVERYBODY GET THAT? I THINK YOU FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY GETTING UP AND SPEAKING. THEIR TWO CENTS, MINE IS ONLY WORTH ONE, BUT YOU HAVE TO HURRY BECAUSE THE FOOD TRUCK IS OUT THERE, BYE 
          . >> GOOD MORNING. OR AFTERNOON. 
          >> GOOD MORNING, SHERRY BADGER, 2527 SOUTH, SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE. I COULD TAKE IT BACK TO HISTORY LESSON. BACK IN THE 1990S WHEN WINN-DIXIE HAD THEIR GROCERY STORE, THERE WAS SUCH A SHORTAGE ALREADY IN PONTEVEDRA, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT NOW. WINN-DIXIE COULD NOT EVEN STAFF EMPLOYEES. THEY CANNOT STAFF THEM NOW AND SOME COMMISSIONERS EVEN SAY THAT THOSE KIND OF PEOPLE WERE NOT WELCOME IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT WE WON'T GO THERE. YOU ALL CONSIDER WORKFORCE HOUSING WHICH I DID NOT KNOW WAS WRONG UNTIL SUSIE POINTED THAT OUT TO ME. 
          BUT YOU ALL, THEY ARE NOT BEING APPROVED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          WORKFORCE HOUSING IS NOT MAKING $72,000 A YEAR. I HAVE TOLD YOU ABOUT THE 31 YEAR TEACHER, HAVE TOLD YOU ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN JACKSONVILLE THAT PAYS HIGHER THAN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. $65,000 A YEAR. WHERE AND WHO IS GETTING THE NUMBERS? 
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YOU NEED TO EVALUATE THIS AND GET THEM BECAUSE THIS HAND DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS HAND IS DOING BECAUSE THIS SAYS THIS AND THIS SAYS THAT SO WE DON'T KNOW. YOU DON'T KNOW WE ALL DON'T KNOW, YOU ALL NEED TO GET STAFF TOGETHER ON THE SAME PAGE AS YOU WILL BECAUSE MAPS DISAPPEAR, WETLANDS DISAPPEAR. 
          IT WAS A TYPO? GET REAL PEOPLE, GET YOUR CRAP TOGETHER. HAVE A 
          GREAT DAY. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC? NEVERMIND, CHARLIE. AFTERNOON, SIR. 
          >> IT SURE IS, THANK YOU. CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATES. A FEW THINGS GOING ON WITH THIS. LIKE I SAID, FARMLAND BEING PRESERVED. AS OF RIGHT NOW THERE IS WATERLILY ROUGHLY 1000 ACRES. 650 ACTUALLY USED FARMLAND THAT THEY WANT TO COVER OVER. THEY WILL TRY TO GET IT IN BEFORE THESE NEW GUIDELINES COME OUT. ANOTHER ONE IS RIGHT THERE AT THE PARIS FARMS. FALLS UP UNDER SPACE. A LOT OF OTHER THINGS, HOTEL AND MOTEL. IT'S COMING DOWN AND WILL NOT FALL WITHIN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS NEW PLAN? IN MY TERMS WE ALSO HAVE COUNTY ROAD 209. ALREADY MAKING A SLICED ON THE MIDDLE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. HOW IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT THE SLIGHT SHIFT OF IT BECAUSE OF THE ROBINSON PUD THAT GOT TONIGHT AND THE TERM OR REQUEST TO SHIFT OVER COUNTY ROAD 2209. WEARS ARE GOING TO GO? HOW MUCH OVER, WILL IT BE? IT IS MAKING IT MORE SUITABLE FOR THE DEVELOPERS OF THE AREA. 
          OKAY? SO THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A BIG DEAL ON THE STRUCTURE OR THE DEVELOPMENT ON EITHER SIDE OF 2209 GOING DOWN SOUTH. AND A TERM USED AND ABUSED AND HIGHLY CONFUSING IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          OR WORKFORCE HOUSING, WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING. YES THERE IS DIFFERENCES. A LOT OF PEOPLE GET IT CONFUSED BECAUSE I GET CONFUSED WHEN I HEAR THEM AS THEY START THROWING OUT THE NUMBERS. 260,000 A STRUCTURE FOR THE WORKFORCE HOUSING BUT IS IT AFFORDABLE HOUSING? WELL, I DON'T KNOW. YOU MAKE THAT MUCH MONEY TO RENT OUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WHY IS IT NOT AFFORDABLE? WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AFFORDABLE BUT ONLY 30% OF THE HOUSING CAN BE AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE, IT'S AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE BUT NOT FOR OTHER PEOPLE. IF WE ELIMINATE THOSE TERMS WE MIGHT GET A LITTLE BIT OF STRUCTURE OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEING PLANNED. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 
          TWO >> BACK TO THE BOARD. CAN I ASK FOR COMMISSIONERS, COMMENT ON ANY REASON WE SHOULD NOT GO DIRECTLY TO REDLINE AND DO THIS ONE MORE TIME BECAUSE OF THE RECREATIONAL ISSUE? AS WELL AS OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING? MY QUESTION IS CAN WE SHOW WHAT A 10 YEAR BOUNDARY WOULD BE ABLE TO INCLUDE? IF THE DENSITY WENT UP OR WE USED OTHER AREAS TO KEEP THE LINE FROM MOVING IN 10 YEARS? JUST CURIOUS 
          WHAT YOU THINK OF THAT. >> UNDERSTANDING THIS WAS PRESENTATION ONLY WITH NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN. 
          >> YOU MENTIONED THE NEXT THING WAS A RED LINE. 
          >> THAT'S THE GENERAL NEXT STEP THAT WOULD BE MY UNDERSTANDING 
          OF THE PROCESS. CORRECT? >> COMMISSIONER MURPHY? 
          >> YES, GREAT QUESTION FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER. THERE'S A COUPLE QUESTIONS I NEED ANSWERED FIRST IF YOU DON'T MIND. TWO QUESTIONS. ONE IS WE BANTERED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF ENTITLEMENTS THAT WE HAVE AT THE COUNTY AND WHAT THE ENTITLEMENT IS FOR 
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THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE, ENTITLEMENT IS A HOUSE APPROVED AND BUILT BUT HAS NOT BEEN BUILT YET. WE BANTERED ABOUT NUMBERS. 
          MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE REAL NUMBER? MIKE, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE REAL NUMBER IS? NOT TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF ENTITLEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED , BUT THERE IS NO WAY THEY WILL BE BUILT. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE REAL NUMBER OF HOUSES WE HAVE READY TO GO TO BE BUILT TODAY. 
          >> IF I COULD , SOMEBODY MENTIONED EXPIRED. IF THEY DO EXPIRE, HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE EXPIRED? 
          >> THROUGH THE CHAIR THE QUICK ANSWER NO I CANNOT. WE WERE GIVEN DIRECTION BY THE BOARD. I DON'T REMEMBER IF YOU HAD BEEN ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME. WE WERE GIVEN DIRECTION TO LOOK AND MEET WITH THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA BUILDER ASSOCIATION , AS YOU HEARD INDICATED THEY FEEL THAT THE NUMBERS ARE PRESENTED FROM ENTITLEMENTS ARE NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT COULD BE 
          BUILT , THAT'S THE SUMMARY. >> LET ME ASK THE QUESTION WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO THE PEOPLE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE? WE HAVE 
          A NUMBER THAT CAN'T BE BUILT? >> ENTITLEMENT AGAIN IS A LAWFUL UNITS SOMEBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO BUILD WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD THEM. SO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE IT IS PRACTICALLY SPEAKING A DEVELOPMENT WITH 1000 UNITS OF SINGLE-FAMILY, CAN THEY BUILD ALL 1000? THEY BELIEVE SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPMENT IN LARGER DEVELOPMENTS CANNOT NECESSARILY BUILD 1000 BECAUSE OF TOPOGRAPHY BUILDOU AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I CAN IMAGINE THEY DID NOT ENGINEER INITIALLY, THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD THE LAND BUT THEY HAD TO DEVOTE TOO MUCH LAND TO STORM WATER ET CETERA SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ENTITLED AND THAT'S NOT CHANGING, THAT'S BY LAW BY ORDINANCE YOU CANNOT TAKE THAT AWAY. THE DIFFERENCE IS PRACTICALLY SPEAKING. SO WE ARE MEETING WITH THEM, WE MET WITH THEM LAST WEEK TO GO OVER THE NUMBERS. ENTITLEMENTS WE ARE NOT CHANGING, THE COUNTY WILL PRESENT THAT WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT THEIR DATA AND ANALYSIS ON SOMETHING AND MAYBE WE PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL REPORT PROVIDE THE REPORT TO SAY YES THAT'S REASONABLE OR NO THAT'S NOT. 
          >> SO I CAN ASK YOU IN TWO WEEKS TO BRING BACK A NUMBER? OR AT 
          THE NEXT MEETING? >> WE WERE JUST GIVEN DIRECTION TO MEET WITH THEM AND THROUGH THIS PROCESS I THINK WE ARE GETTING TO WHERE WE WILL BE ABLE TO SAY SOMETHING FROM STAFF PERSPECTIVE BASED ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE READY TO COME BACK 
          IN TWO WEEKS. >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION WHAT DO WE ASK THEM, WILL YOU BE READY IN TWO WEEKS? 
          >> YES. >> WILL DO OUR BEST TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU. ON THE EXPIRATION DATE THAT IS SOMETHING WE MET AND LOOK INTO AND WE IDENTIFIED PUD'S EXPIRED FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A PUD THAT IS NOT MET TIMING REQUIREMENTS IT CAN EXPIRE WHICH MEANS IT LOSES ITS RIGHTS, IN A STATE OF PURGATORY AND THERE IS NO REVERTING CAUSE SO IT MEANS BASICALLY HAVE TO COME IN AND REZONE. 
          >> ENTITLEMENT GOES AWAY. >> TO GO AWAY AND THEY DON'T REVERT TO WHAT THEY WERE SO THEY CANNOT DO ANYTHING UNTIL THEY COME BACK AND REZONE IT. SO WE WILL TRY TO MEET AND THEN COME BACK WITH SOMETHING SOME SORT OF NUMBER. 
          >> ONE OF THE QUESTION. 2209 , A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT 2209 ROBINSON PROPERTY STUFF LIKE THAT. IS 2209 STATE-MANDATED ROAD WHERE WE REQUIRED TO BUILD 2209 IN THE FUTURE? 
          >> I BELIEVE IT IS COUNTY ROAD, BUT BUT I KNOW I THINK I THINK FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WILL SEE THAT AS A NORTH AND SOUTH CORRIDOR TO HELP WITH TRAFFIC AND NOT SEND 
          EVERYTHING TO I-95. >> COME ON OVER HERE. DON'T BE 
          SHY. >> YES SIR COMMISSIONERS. 2209 IS REQUIRED, WE ENTERED INTO REQUIREMENT WITH THE STATE TO BUILD PARALLEL ROAD TO 95, THERE IS NO TIMELINE ASSOCIATED BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE STATE CAN'T COME CALLING AT ANY POINT IN TIME TO ASK WHERE WE STAND WITH CONSTRUCTION OF THAT ROAD. 
          THAT IS WHY WE ARE PRIORITIZE BUILDING NORTH TO SOUTH AND THAT IS WHERE THE COUNTY HAS GONE PREVIOUS, PREVIOUS BOARDS HAVE GONE AND ACQUIRED PROPERTY THROUGH THAT CORRIDOR. 
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          >> ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO ADD. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE REAL NUMBER OF ENTITLEMENTS ARE AND WHO OWNS THEM. CAN WE DO THAT? IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO? 
          >> SO, YES. COUNTY EMPLOYEE , WE TRACK ENTITLEMENTS AND WE HAVE A NEAT ENTITLEMENT TOOL AND WE HAVE A NUMBER. LET ME CLARIFY ON THE NUMBER YOU ARE ASKING FOR. THIS WILL NEVER BE EXACT BECAUSE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SITUATIONS THAT ARE SPECULATIVE. WILL LOOK AT THOSE, IT WILL BE SOMETHING WE COULD POTENTIALLY AGREE WITH OR NOT. TO SAY THAT IS REASONABLE OR NOT. 
          >> I'M SORRY YOU DON'T HAVE THE FLOOR. 
          >> HE BROUGHT UP MY NAME. >> I'M TRYING TO KEEP ORDER IN 
          THE ROOM. >> OKAY ONE MORE QUESTION. IF I MAY ASK. THE OWNERS OF THE ENTITLEMENT. IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN GET? IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS? 
          >> I BELIEVE SO, YES OR. IF THEY CAN GET IT THAT WOULD BE GOOD I DON'T KNOW WE HAVE THE ENTITLEMENTS. 
          >> CAN WE INCLUDE A MAP SO WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE IN THE 
          COUNTY, THOSE ENTITLEMENTS. >> WE CAN LOOK TO SEE IF SOMETHING CAN BE PRESENTED. WE DO HAVE THE PUD ENTITLEMENT AND I MEAN THAT EVERY DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD REPRESENT WITH EACH PERCENTAGE, I'M TRYING TO GET YOU WHAT YOU WANT. WE WILL LOOK AT IT TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO SHOW YOU THE DEVELOPMENT BUT IT MIGHT BE HARD TO DEPICT THE ACTUAL AMOUNT FOR EACH ONE ON A SINGLE MAP. 
          >> QUICK REAL QUICK. WHAT ABOUT LIKE THE GENTLEMAN WHO CAME UP AND SHOWED HIS PROPERTY AND HE WANTS TO MAKE IT GO TO HIGHER DENSITY. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE. WE HAVE A LOT OF LAND THAT WILL BE DOING THAT SO I KNOW YOU'RE COUNTING ENTITLEMENTS NOW BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO CHANGE? THAT'S A HARD NUMBER TO COME BACK WITH, ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE THE 10 YEAR DEVELOPMENT LINE. ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. SPEC VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE I WANT TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 3. THE 20 YOUR PLAN IS STATUTORY REQUIREMENT. I HAVE HEARD FROM PUBLIC, GETTING EMAILS WE HAVE TO DO 20 YOUR PLAN AT MINIMUM? IS THAT ACCURATE? 
          >> YES AND I WILL LET CHRIS ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          >> THAT'S CORRECT. I KNOW IT IS A NUANCE SUBJECT. GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS IF YOUR PLAN HAS A 10 YEAR HORIZON AT MINIMUM THE CHAIR CAN SAY WE ARE GOOD. YOUR PLAN YOU HAVE MAXED OUT HORIZON. 
          IT IS THIS YEAR SO WE ARE DONE WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY YES WE ARE GOOD WE HAVE ACCOMMODATED A 10 YEAR POPULATION PROJECTION IN THE CURRENT PLAN. 
          >> IN THE SITUATION HAVE TO DO 10 AND 20 YEAR PLANNING , 20 
          BEING THE HORIZON. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> THAT'S THE MINIMUM BY STATUTE. 
          >> YOU CAN DO 10 YEARS AND HAVE SOMETHING BUT REEVALUATE AT THAT POINT BECAUSE WE'RE DOING IT NOW FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS. 10 YEARS WE CAN DO AGAIN FOR THE NEXT CORRECT? ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE NO GROWTH, WE HAD A HURRICANE COME THROUGH PEOPLE 
          ARE LEAVING. >> HERE IS HOW IT WORKS. WE HAVE TO HAVE 10 AND 20 YEARS IN THE PLAN. WE COME BACK EVERY SEVEN YEARS AND GET IN FRONT OF THE BOARD AND SAY LET'S TAKE A LOOK. DOES THIS MAKE SENSE? PROJECTIONS ARE ON POINT? IF NOT ADJUST THE PROJECTION. THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO COME BACK AND TWEAK THE POLICY IF WE SEE SOMETHING NOT OCCURRING THE WAY WE ANTICIPATED DURING THIS PROCESS. 
          >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. IN NO MOTION OR ANYTHING. 
          SORRY ANYTHING MORE TO SAY? >> JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON SOME DIRECTION BECAUSE THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT A COUPLE POINTS. AS WE DO MOVE FORWARDS WE DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS LATER A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT CAME UP WAS THE HORIZON, THE 20 YEAR AND 
          THE OTHER WAS . >> WE WILL NOT DO REDLINE 108 WE 
          WILL DO ONE MORE SWAP AT THIS. >> AGAIN IF WE COME TO YOU WITH REDLINE THAT'S NOT THE LAST BITE OF THE APPLE, YOU CAN 
          CONTINUE THAT >> WHAT YOU DID TODAY WOULD BE GREAT TO DO ONE MORE TIME AND REWRITE SOME THINGS YOU HEARD. I 
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THINK YOU WILL BE AT THE TREE ORDINANCE HEARING IN MARCH, YOU 
          GOING TO BE HERE FOR THAT? >> YES MA'AM. 
          >> MAYBE LOOK BACK AT THIS AT THE SAME TIME WITH ANY CHANGES AND QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAD? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO THE GROUP? SO THAT WILL GIVE YOU MORE THAN TWO 
          WEEKS TO GET IT TOGETHER. >> I AM HEARING WILL COME BACK AT THE SECOND MEETING IN MARCH WITH OUR PRESENTATION , BUT YOU 
          DO OR DO NOT WANT THE REDLINE? >> NOT YET BUT THE SAME THING WITH UPDATES I MEAN THE RECREATION. NOT WHAT YOU WANT. 
          >> WE WILL UPDATE PARKS AND REC >> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS FROM 
          LISTENING? >> SURE OKAY. 
          >> THE NUMBERS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE. AND THE THING I WANTED WAS HOW MUCH AVAILABILITY IS THERE IN MORE DENSITY OR WITHIN A 10 YEAR PLAN, CAN WE GET IN THE HOUSES WE NEED WITHOUT MOVING BY HIGHER DENSITY OR I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT YOU THOUGHT SINCE YOU HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH IF WE CAN DO THAT. 
          >> SO, ACCOMMODATING THE 10 YEAR PROJECTION WITHIN THE CURRENT STATE OF VACANT LAND AND THE WAY WE DO IT I DON'T KNOW THE 
          ANSWER NOW. >> LOOK AT AREAS AND OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN INCREASE DENSITY WE HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THERE ARE AREAS WE ALREADY HAVE NOT USED. 
          LIKE THE GENTLEMAN WHO CAME WHO WANTED TO INCREASE THE DENSITY , YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? I KNOW IT'S NAÏVE BUT I THINK 
          EVERYONE WANTS TO HEAR THAT. >> YES MA'AM AFTER THE CHAIR, GIVEN THAT DECISION TO GO SECOND MEETING OF MARCH IS THAT OKAY TO COME BACK AT THE SAME TIME FOR THE BUILD, ENTITLED VERSUS 
          PRACTICAL? OKAY YES, THANK YOU. >> OKAY THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING 
          TO BREAK FOR LUNCH UNTIL 1:00. >> CAN WE HEAR ITEM THROUGH BEFORE LUNCH? IT WAS PULLED FROM CONSENT? 
          >> I CAN'T BECAUSE I HAVE JOINED TELLING ME WE WERE READY AT NOON. FOR THE FOOD TRUCK IT IS THE FOOD TRUCK DOWN AT
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