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[Call to Order by Chair]
THERE ARE MATERIALS FOR THIS MEETING AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE UNDER AGENDAS AND MINUTES.THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON ANY AGENDA ITEM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
PUBLIC COMMENT IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES AND SHOULD THE PRESENTER HAVE ANY EXHIBITS OR PHOTOGRAPHS, PLEASE PROVIDE THOSE MATERIALS TO THE CLERK OF THE COURT FOR INCLUSION INTO THE RECORD. IF WE COULD PLEASE CALL ROLL.
CHAIR. COMMISSIONER SARAH ARNOLD.
PRESENT. COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN WHITEHURST.
AND NOW WE WILL HAVE AN INVOCATION LED BY REVEREND ELLIOT ALASIA OF THE BRIDGE OF LIFE CHURCH.
HEAVENLY FATHER, CREATOR AND INSPIRATION OF ALL THINGS.
GIVE THESE LEADERS THE WISDOM AND THE TENACITY TO DO ALL THAT IS RIGHT AND HONORABLE.
BEFORE YOU AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY.
THE SAINT JOHNS WILL CONTINUE TO BE A BASTION OF HOPE AND CONCORD.
MAY HE NOT LEAVE US NOR FORSAKE US, THAT HE MAY INCLINE OUR HEARTS TO HIMSELF, TO WALK IN ALL HIS WAYS, AND TO KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS AND HIS STATUTES, AND HIS JUDGMENTS, WHICH HE COMMANDED TO OUR FATHERS.
I ASK THIS IN THE PRECIOUS NAME OF MY LORD AND SAVIOR, CHRIST JESUS.
AND NOW TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE, UNITED STATES ARMY SERGEANT SUE WETHERINGTON.
AS WE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO OUR AMERICAN FLAG THIS MORNING, LET US EVER BE SO REMINDED OF THOSE WHO HAVE GIVEN SELFLESSLY THE SACRIFICES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE FOR OUR COUNTRY AND OUR FREEDOMS. LET'S PLEDGE THE ALLEGIANCE.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[Proclamation Recognizing November 8, 2024, as St. Johns County-Israel Friendship Day]
WELL, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.I HOPE EVERYONE'S HAVING A WONDERFUL DAY.
RABBI SHARFSTEIN, WOULD YOU PLEASE JOIN ME AND ANY OTHERS WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE THAT WERE PART OF THE CEREMONY? WE HAD A WONDERFUL CEREMONY EARLIER THIS MORNING BEFORE OUR COMMISSION MEETING HONORING ISRAEL AND ALL THAT THAT STANDS FOR.
AND WE ARE ALL TOGETHER IN COMPLETE UNITY.
SO WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION, RABBI, TO READ AND THEN PRESENT TO YOU A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA. WHEREAS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND ISRAEL IS BASED ON THE TWIN PILLARS OF SHARED VALUES AND MUTUAL INTEREST.
AND WHEREAS ISRAEL IS A BEACON OF LIGHT AS THE ONLY TRULY FREE DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND GUARANTEES IN ITS DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE FULL FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE, WORSHIP, EDUCATION AND CULTURE.
AND WHEREAS ISRAEL WAS FOUNDED IN 1948 AS A NATIONAL HOME FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE, AND IT IS BELIEVED BY SOME THAT JEWS WERE AMONG THE EARLIEST SETTLERS OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, COMING TO THE CITY WITH SPANISH FOUNDERS IN THE 16TH CENTURY.
AND WHEREAS THE FIRST ORGANIZED JEWISH CONGREGATION IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY WAS FOUNDED IN 1898, AND CONGREGATIONS OF REFORM, CONSERVATIVE, AND CHABAD CONGREGATIONS CONTINUE TO FLOURISH.
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AND THEY STAND SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL IN PROMOTING FREEDOM, HUMAN RIGHTS AND SECURITY.NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, RECOGNIZE NOVEMBER 8TH, 2024 AS THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, ISRAEL FRIENDSHIP DAY.
I WANT TO THANK OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR STANDING WITH ISRAEL.
STANDING STRONG WITH THE JEWISH COMMUNITY.
AND STANDING UP FOR WHAT'S RIGHT.
AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, WE FIGHT DARKNESS WITH LIGHT.
THE OUR MOST IMPORTANT, OUR MOST IMPORTANT VALUES IN LIFE, OF OF GOODNESS AND KINDNESS ARE WHAT'S GOING TO FIGHT THE EVIL OF THE WORLD.
OUR RESPONSE IS A RESPONSE OF LIGHT.
OUR RESPONSE, A RESPONSE OF ACTS OF GOODNESS AND KINDNESS.
GOODNESS AND KINDNESS IS CONTAGIOUS.
IT HAS A RIPPLE EFFECT THAT WILL CHANGE THE WORLD.
WHEN WE ALL WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND SMILE TO A FRIEND.
SIMPLE THINGS WAKE UP IN THE MORNING.
PUT A COIN IN A CHARITY BOX TO HELP SOMEBODY ELSE DO IT AT WORK WITH YOUR FRIENDS.
DO IT WITH YOUR CHILDREN AT BREAKFAST.
DO SOMETHING EVERY DAY THAT THAT WILL CHANGE THE LIFE OF SOMEONE ELSE.
WHEN WE ADD MORE ACTS OF GOODNESS AND KINDNESS, WE WILL BRING THE REALIZATION OF THE PROPHECIES OF A GOOD AND SAFE WORLD FOR ALL, WITH NO WARS AND ONLY PEACE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
I WORK FOR THE JEWISH FEDERATION AND FOUNDATION OF NORTHEAST FLORIDA.
I'M HERE FOR TWO YEARS AS AN ISRAELI REPRESENTATIVE TO SHARE ISRAEL WITH YOU.
WE ARE ALL AMBASSADORS FOR OUR COUNTRY.
WOULDN'T YOU AGREE? I'M HERE TO BE AVAILABLE IN BOTH PROFESSIONAL AND PERSONAL CAPACITY.
THIS COULD BE BY WORKING WITH YOU IN A VARIETY OF EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND PRESENTATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY OR PERSONALLY, BY BUILDING CONNECTIONS WITH PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA.
SINCE I ARRIVED IN EARLY SEPTEMBER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK ME WAS DISCOVERING THAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THE COUNTRY THAT IS THOUSANDS OF KILOMETERS AWAY FROM THEM, AND FOR MANY, A PLACE WHERE THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN.
ANOTHER THING THAT SURPRISED ME IS THAT SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY HAS A DAY SPECIFICALLY TO CELEBRATE ISRAEL, AND STAND UP FOR HER IS NOTHING SHORT OF AMAZING, AND I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK YOU.
THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THE STATE OF ISRAEL NEEDS THIS SUPPORT FROM JEWISH AND NON-JEWISH AROUND THE WORLD, ESPECIALLY AS WE FACE THE MOST DIFFICULT TIMES SINCE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE STATE.
I'M HERE FOR YOU AS YOU ARE ALL HERE FOR US.
I ARRIVED HERE ONLY TWO MONTHS AGO.
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BUT DRIVING UP HERE TO SAINT AUGUSTINE, I HAVE TO TELL YOU HOW AT HOME I FEEL BETWEEN THE HISTORICAL SITES AND THE BEAUTIFUL BEACHES.IT'S REALLY BEEN SUCH A WONDERFUL VISIT.
BUT MORE THAN THAT, IT'S INCREDIBLE TO SEE HOW OUR SHARED VALUES INTERTWINE SO BEAUTIFULLY.
ISRAEL IS STILL AT THE FRONT OF OUR CIVILIZATION, FIGHTING FOR OUR SHARED VALUES, AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH THE AID THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM FLORIDA.
FROM THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.
FROM THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE HERE AT SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.
HOW MUCH IT HAS FELT IN ISRAEL AND HOW IT HAS REVERBERATED THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY.
I THINK YOU BETTER STAY UP THERE, COMMISSIONER DEAN.
IF WE COULD WELCOME COMMISSIONER LARRY HARVEY FROM PUTNAM COUNTY.
[Honoring Commissioner Henry Dean for his service on the FACT Board of Trustees]
AND MISS VOGELSANG. GOOD MORNING.GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN.
FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, I AM LARRY HARVEY FROM PUTNAM COUNTY.
I SIT IN THE SAME SPOT THAT YOU SIT IN AT MY PLACE.
BUT WE'RE IN SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY TODAY.
I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO COME TO THIS MIC.
YES. IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.
AND TODAY, WE'RE HERE TO HONOR ONE OF THE GREAT COMMISSIONERS, STATESMEN OF FLORIDA, WHO'S BEEN AROUND LONGER THAN MOST OF US HAVE BEEN ALIVE, INCLUDING ME. HENRY.
BUT A MAN WHO KNOWS FLORIDA INSIDE AND OUT AND WHO HAS SERVED THIS STATE VERY WELL.
AND TODAY WE'RE GOING TO, AS CHAIRMAN OF THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES TRUST, WHICH IS THE INSURANCE TRUST THAT SAINT JOHNS COUNTY SUPPORTS AND IS INVOLVED IN. MR..
COMMISSIONER. DEAN. COME HERE.
COMMISSIONER DEAN HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF THE TRUST FOR EIGHT YEARS.
AND IN RECOGNITION OF THE EIGHT YEARS OF DEDICATED AND SELFLESS SERVICE TO THE MEMBERS OF THE FACT BOARD OF TRUSTEES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN'T LEARN FROM HENRY DEAN, YOU CAN'T LEARN FROM ANYBODY.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT'S TRUE MANY TIMES IN MY IN MY LIFE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS, BUT I DON'T TRY TO TALK AS MUCH AS I LISTEN.
AND WHEN HENRY TALKS, YOU LISTEN, AND HE DOES THAT.
SO. DENISE. DENISE IS OUR MARKETING REP FOR THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES TRUST.
AND SHE DROVE OVER HERE TODAY TO BE A PART OF THIS.
I DO WANT TO SAY LOSING HENRY HAS BEEN A BIG IT'S GOING TO MAKE A BIG HOLE IN OUR ORGANIZATION.
WE LOST FIVE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS TO ELECTIONS THIS YEAR.
SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOMEBODY FROM SAINT JOHNS COUNTY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
BUT AGAIN, HENRY HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING TO ME.
HENRY'S BEEN A WONDERFUL PERSON TO THIS COMMUNITY.
HENRY'S BEEN A GREAT ASSET TO THE TRUST.
AND COMMISSIONER DEAN, WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU IMMENSELY.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
SOME OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE MAY NOT KNOW THE IMPORTANCE TO SAINT JOHNS COUNTY OF THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES TRUST, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS FACT, BUT IT'S BASICALLY AN INSURANCE RISK MANAGEMENT POOL.
WE'RE NOT LARGE ENOUGH LIKE MIAMI-DADE, BROWARD, HILLSBOROUGH TO BE SELF-INSURED.
SO FOR THE LAST ROUGHLY 30 YEARS, WE HAVE AS A COUNTY HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE FACT PROGRAM WHERE SMALL COUNTIES WORK TOGETHER AS A GROUP TO PROVIDE INSURANCE FOR EACH OF US, THE COUNTIES THAT ARE MEMBERS.
SO I'M CONFIDENT THAT IT SHALL CONTINUE IN THAT VEIN.
AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I THANK.
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SO, LARRY, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.YOU WANT TO GRAB A PICTURE? YEAH.
COME ON. WHAT DO YOU WANT? IS THAT FOR ME? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND THIS WILL BRING US INTO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY UPDATE.
[Public Safety Update]
GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.SKIP COLE, DIRECTOR WITH THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
I'LL SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT HURRICANES.
OKAY. HURRICANE FATIGUE IS REAL.
FORTUNATELY FOR US, WE DID NOT RECEIVE A DIRECT HIT.
HOWEVER, THAT REQUIRES NO LESS PREPARATION WHEN WE GET IN THE CONE OF CONCERN, SO TO SPEAK.
YOU KNOW, IN THE EARLY STAGES, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY STAFF FIRE, RESCUE US.
WE STAND UP OUR INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM AND WE ARE PREPARING FOR A WORST CASE SCENARIO.
AND ALONG WITH THAT, IT REQUIRES, YOU KNOW, AN ALL AGENCY RESPONSE.
YOU KNOW, OUR FOLKS IN HASTINGS GOT FLOODED UNLIKE EVER BEFORE.
OUR FIRE RESCUE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE EMPLOYEES WERE OUT THERE 24 OVER SEVEN IN HIGH WATER VEHICLES, MAKING SURE THAT THEY KNEW WE WERE THERE, THAT WE WERE MAKING THEM FEEL SAFE.
YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, OUR COASTAL RESIDENTS ALWAYS FEEL THE IMPACTS.
WE'RE OUT THERE 24 OVER SEVEN, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THEY FEEL SAFE.
AND IT'S IT'S BECAUSE OF THE COLLECTIVE LEADERSHIP IN THIS ROOM.
SO WE'RE NOT OUT OF THE WOODS YET, OBVIOUSLY.
YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A VERY BUSY WEEKEND.
WE HAD A MISSING SWIMMER THAT TRAGICALLY DIED UP IN MY CLASS.
WE HAD A VERY DANGEROUS CHILD ABDUCTION OF A SIX MONTH OLD BABY OUT ON THE RIVER.
YESTERDAY WE HAD FOUR, YOU KNOW, VIOLENT JUVENILES ESCAPED FROM THE HASTINGS YOUTH ACADEMY.
SO EVEN WHILE WE GOT ALL THIS OTHER STUFF GOING ON, WE'RE STILL ANSWERING 911 CALLS.
I THINK WE ARE BLESSED TO BE SUPPORTED BY Y'ALL'S LEADERSHIP.
SO ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR COLE.
GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR.
COMMISSIONERS. JEREMY ROBSHAW, ADMIN SERVICES.
CHIEF. ON BEHALF OF CHIEF MCGEE.
YOU MIGHT HEAR A LITTLE BIT OF THAT THIS MORNING, BUT WE WE WERE VERY BUSY.
SAINT JOHNS COUNTY IS FORTUNATE IN THE NETWORK OF RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US.
OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, EMERGENCY OPERATIONS, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, THEIR FIRE DEPARTMENT WORKED ALONGSIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS EVENT.
BASED ON THE ANTICIPATED POTENTIALS WITH THIS STORM, IT WAS A VERY SIGNIFICANT STORM.
WE DID LAUNCH SOME RESPONSE THAT WE HAVE NOT DONE BEFORE.
AND THAT WAS A FULL AGENCY RESPONSE.
WHAT WE'VE CALLED A TOTAL RECALL.
THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE IN RECENT YEARS.
REALLY DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF COMMUNICATING THAT.
UNLIKE OUR OUR FRIENDS TO THE SOUTH.
SO FOR US, IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL RESPONSE.
IT WAS PROOF THAT COLLABORATION BETWEEN ALL THE AGENCIES RESULTED IN A PREPARED COMMUNITY.
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AND AGAIN, BY YOUR SUPPORT AND THE SUPPORT OF COUNTY ADMINISTRATION TO, TO ALLOW US TO DO THAT.I THINK AT THIS POINT, WE DO HAVE SOME PERSONNEL WHO ARE DEPLOYED.
WE SENT SOME FOLKS DOWN SOUTH.
WE HAD SOME FOLKS COME BACK THAT WERE THERE FOR THE STORM.
AND UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, CHIEF ROBSHAW. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.
YES. I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THE MCLR SITUATION.
YES. BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T I THINK PEOPLE THINK THERE'S LIFEGUARDS OUT THERE AND THERE ARE NOT.
AND WITH THE WEATHER BEING BEAUTIFUL AND YOU GO ON THE BEACH, THE DOUBLE RED FLAGS, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE MORE? AND AS WELL AS WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE DEATH THAT WE HAD, WHICH IS HORRIFIC AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT WERE HURT? YES, MA'AM. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS TO MENTION IS, YOU KNOW, WE DO OUR BEST TO NOTIFY WHEN CONDITIONS ARE UNFAVORABLE FOR SWIMMING THROUGH THE DURATION OF THE STORM.
THERE WAS BEACH WARNINGS, RED FLAG WARNINGS, NO SWIMMING ADVISORIES.
THOSE COME FROM US, AS WELL AS THEIR SHARED NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.
WE GET THAT INFORMATION OUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
WHAT WE WOULD ASK IS THAT RESIDENTS HEED THOSE WARNINGS.
IF THOSE WARNINGS ARE PRESENT, DO NOT GO IN THE WATER.
UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, DANGEROUS CONDITIONS RESULT IN TRAGIC ACCIDENTS.
IN THIS CASE, IT WAS A VERY TRAGIC OUTCOME FOR THIS FAMILY AND THIS INDIVIDUAL.
SO IT'S A SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE REALLY NEED TO HEED THOSE WARNINGS AND STAY OUT OF THE WATER.
IF THOSE CONDITIONS ARE PRESENT, WE'LL CERTAINLY BE COMING.
YOU KNOW, 911 RESPONSE WILL GET CERTIFIED TRAINED INDIVIDUALS THERE, BUT IT IS NOT THE TYPICAL LIFEGUARD SITTING ON A TOWER THAT'S GOING TO SEE YOU AND BE ABLE TO IMMEDIATELY REACT TO THE EMERGENCY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, MA'AM.
AND THAT LEADS US INTO OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS UPDATE.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATE.
[Public Infrastructure Update]
GOOD. MORNING.ADAM STECKLER, DIRECTOR OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS.
I'M EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT THE NEW AWARD WE RECEIVED THIS OCTOBER, WHICH IS FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION. THIS AWARD IS FOCUSED ON JOB GROWTH AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCE.
IT GENERATED FROM A SUPPLEMENTAL FEDERAL APPROPRIATION THAT WAS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE SERIES OF HURRICANES FLORIDA WAS HIT WITH OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND IN RESPONSE TO THAT, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION WAS LOOKING TOWARD FINDING PROJECTS THAT CAN DIVERSIFY AND STRENGTHEN AN OVERALL LONG TERM ECONOMY IN MANY AREAS OF OUR REGION, OF OUR STATE WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO SECURE THE LARGEST AWARD IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WHICH IS 9.5 MILLION. AND AGAIN, IT'S FROM THE ECONOMIC ADJUSTMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM GRANT.
AND WHAT THIS MONEY IS GOING TO GO TO IS AN $11.3 MILLION, 20,000 SQUARE FOOT WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER FOCUSED ON DIESEL ENGINE TECHNOLOGY, SOLAR TECHNOLOGY AND SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE PROGRAM IS THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM BETWEEN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY AND THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
TOGETHER WITH THIS PARTNERSHIP, THIS WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER IS HAS ALREADY SECURED COMMITMENTS FROM EMPLOYERS TO FILL 550 NEW HIGH WAGE JOBS.
THE TOTAL AMOUNT ABOUT 1.2 BILLION.
IN ADDITION, AND THIS NUMBER IS NOT CORRECT, I HAVE $19 MILLION IN EDUCATION, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY 21 MILLION WHEN YOU COUNT THE REGIONAL TRAINING CENTER PLUS THE HASTINGS SOUTHWEST CAMPUS HUB, WHICH IS THE OLD HOST, OLD HASTINGS HIGH SCHOOL THAT'S BEING RENOVATED, AND THE CONTINUING EDUCATION ACTIVITIES THERE, THAT TOTAL PROJECT AREA IS OVER $21 MILLION THAT THE BOARD HAS INVESTED, THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS INVESTED, AS WELL AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO I LOOK AT THIS AS A TREMENDOUS ACCOMPLISHMENT.
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FURTHER INFORMATION HERE IS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THE PROJECT.AS YOU SEE TO THE LEFT, THE 20,000 SQUARE FOOT TRAINING CENTER.
YOU ALSO SEE YOU HAVE THAT LARGER AREA THERE FOR POTENTIAL, EVEN FUTURE EXPANSION.
IF THE NEED WERE TO COME AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE ATTRACTED TO THIS CAMPUS.
AND I WOULD EMPHASIZE THIS IS A REGIONAL PROJECT, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY EDA SELECTED SAINT JOHNS COUNTY FOR THIS PROJECT IS BECAUSE ITS ABILITY TO SERVE THE WORKFORCE NEEDS IN PUTMAN AND AS WELL AS IN FLAGLER COUNTY.
THAT'S WHERE THEY PULL IN THESE DIESEL TRUCKS IN THERE TO DO THE WORK ON THOSE.
AND WITH THAT, THAT'S THE CONCLUSION OF MY PRESENTATION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
THANK YOU, MR. TACKLER. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
WHETHER YOU FOLLOW MIKE ROE OR JUST READ, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS JOURNALS OR BUSINESS ARTICLES.
I MEAN, THE FOLKS WHO ARE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN WHO DREAM ABOUT GROWING UP TO BE AN AUTO MECHANIC OR HVAC REPAIRMAN, BUT THERE ARE SOME SIX FIGURE CAREERS WITH BENEFITS WAITING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SOME OF THESE APPRENTICESHIPS.
THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF STATE FUNDING ROLLING IN TO FUND THIS, I MEAN, THAT IS GOING TO PAY GREAT DIVIDENDS FOR SAINT JOHNS COUNTY AS WE CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE, WHETHER IT'S NORTHROP GRUMMAN OR WHETHER IT'S BUSSARD FORD, TO FIND CHILDREN WHO ARE WILLING TO GROW UP TO ONE DAY DO THESE DIRTY JOBS.
WHO? I MEAN, THAT GREATLY BENEFIT SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.
SO. SO I'M REALLY PLEASED TO SEE THIS MOVING FORWARD IN THE WAY THAT IT IS.
AND I KNOW WE WILL ALL BENEFIT FROM THESE CHILDREN GETTING EDUCATED IN THIS WAY.
AND FRANKLY, THEY WILL HAVE COMFORTABLE LIVES AS A RESULT OF GETTING THIS EDUCATION TOO.
SO THANK YOU, MISTER TECWYN. YES, SIR.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.
AND CONGRATULATIONS. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND YOUR TEAM. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
AND THAT LEADS US INTO OUR HURRICANE UPDATE.
[Hurricane Update]
GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR.COMMISSIONERS JOE GIAMMANCO, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
THIS IS TRULY A TEAM EFFORT TO GO THROUGH THIS EMERGENCY AND COME OUT TO THE EOC AND HELP.
AGAIN, A REALLY BIG TEAM EFFORT.
WE HAVE LAURA DOING A LOT OF THE SITREPS, A LOT OF THE PAPERWORK BEHIND THE SCENES.
SO I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO ALL OF THEM.
SO AGAIN, THE FIRST STORM THAT WE HAD THIS SEASON SO FAR IS DEBBY.
AGAIN, THIS WAS A STORM THAT KIND OF WENT UP THE WEST SIDE, UP TO THE BIG BEND AND KIND OF OUT UP TO THE NORTH CAROLINA AREA. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT IS THIS IS RIGHT, KIND OF CLOSE TO THE PEAK OF THE SEASON.
THEY KIND OF ALREADY DID THAT.
WHAT WE SEE DURING THAT STORM, WE HAD TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS.
WE HAD GUSTS OVER 45 MILES AN HOUR.
WE ALSO HAD ABOUT ALMOST A LITTLE OVER 2000 PEOPLE WITHOUT POWER.
WE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE CHECKLIST OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY IS PREPARED, AND THEN WE WIND UP RECEIVING FEDERAL FUNDS OR FEDERAL DECLARATION FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR CAT B, WHICH IS THE EOC ACTIVATION.
SO WE'LL SEEK REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA ON THOSE COSTS.
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HELENE AGAIN, ANOTHER ONE THAT CAME UP THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA AND INTO THE BIG BEND.SO WE WHAT WE DID SEE EFFECTS.
WE DID HAVE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT WIND AND RAIN.
WE SAW ALMOST 17,000 PEOPLE WITHOUT POWER DURING THAT.
AGAIN, WE WORK WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD VERY CLOSELY, AND WE TRY TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO BEST FOR THE THE ENTIRE OPERATIONS. AND SO NORMALLY WE GO TO A SCHOOL IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO OPEN MULTIPLE SHELTERS AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN MILTON.
BUT FOR THIS EVENT, IT DIDN'T.
WE DIDN'T WARRANT OPENING OR CLOSING SCHOOLS FOR THAT.
WE DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF RESIDENTS COME TO THOSE THINGS.
I THINK WE KIND OF DODGED A LITTLE BIT AS THE STORM WENT MORE TO THE LEFT.
BUT AGAIN, WE LOOK AT THOSE DECISIONS AND THOSE THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE AND THE WHOLE TEAM EFFORT.
WE HAD A LOT OF ROADWAYS DOWN.
WE HAD ABOUT $2 MILLION IN INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE OR INDIVIDUAL HOME DAMAGES.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE FEDERAL DECLARATION FOR THIS STORM YET.
WE ARE STILL WORKING TOWARDS THAT.
SO THERE IS NO FEDERAL MONEY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS STORM.
BUT AGAIN, THIS TWO WEEKS LATER, WE HAD MILTON AND WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING THAT OUT.
SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT STORM TRYING TO GET THE FEDERAL FUNDING.
ALL RIGHT. JUMP RIGHT INTO MILTON.
MILTON WAS TWO WEEKS AFTER HALLOWEEN, SO WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO GET EVERYTHING PICKED UP AND CLEANED UP FOR, FROM HALLOWEEN TO MILTON. WE SAW A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WIND.
HURRICANE FORCE WIND GUSTS, 70 MILE AN HOUR.
WINDS. WE ACTUALLY CLOCKED OR SAW A 90 MILE AN HOUR WIND GUST IN MARINELAND AREA.
WE ALSO SAW AT THE RIVER GAUGES THAT THE RIVER WAS ALMOST SIX FEET OR JUST SHY OF SIX FEET.
SO THAT MEANT THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE COUNTY, AS WE ALL KNOW, TOOK A SIGNIFICANT HIT IN FLOODING.
AGAIN, NOT THE ENTIRE COUNTY SAW THIS.
IT JUST MAYBE NOT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? THE FLAGLER ESTATES AREA.
HASTINGS. THEY WERE UNDERWATER FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS, AND THE WATER IS STARTING TO RECEDE.
WE HAD, I THINK, JUST SHY OF 40,000 RESIDENTS OR WITHOUT POWER.
THE FPL AND GE DID A TREMENDOUS JOB OF GETTING THE POWER ON AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
WE OPENED THREE SHELTERS AND WE HAD SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THE SHELTER FROM PETS.
WE HAD A PET FRIENDLY SPECIAL NEEDS ONE.
AND AS WELL AS THE GENERAL POPULATION, WE SAW SEVERAL HUNDRED PEOPLE WITHIN THOSE SHELTERS.
SO THEY THEY TOOK IT SERIOUSLY.
WE DID AN INITIAL DAMAGE ASSESSMENT OF THAT, MORE OF LIKE A KIND OF A WINDOW AS DAMAGE ASSESSMENT.
THIS IS FOR US TO GET SOME NUMBERS PRELIMINARY TO FEMA TO LOOK FOR FEDERAL ASSISTANCE.
AND AND THAT'S NOT AN ALL INCLUSIVE NUMBERS.
I'M GOING TO POINT OUT HERE, WE HAD ABOUT 173 HOMES THAT WERE DAMAGED IN THAT WINDOW ASSESSMENT.
AND THAT ROUGHLY TRANSLATES TO ABOUT 10 MILLION.
$10 MILLION IN INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE NEED.
AND THEN WE DID MORE OF A WINDOW TOUR FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL, FOR OUR DEBRIS EOC OPERATIONS.
AND WE WERE FEDERALLY DECLARED FOR CAT A AND B, WHICH MEANS OUR DEBRIS COST AND AS WELL AS THE EOC OPERATION COST COULD BE COVERED AS WELL AS INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE, SO RESIDENTS CAN NOW SEEK FEDERAL FUNDING THROUGH FEMA WITH THAT PROCESS.
WE ARE NOT FEMA, BUT WE CAN HELP THEM.
AND THAT NUMBER IS 904 8245550.
AND WITH THAT RIGHT NOW, WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR US IS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR A LOT OF COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO HELP WHERE THE NEED IS IS NEEDED. AND SO I JUST WANT TO PUT OUT A COUPLE OF THANK YOUS TO SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT THAT STEPPED UP AND CAME TO US WITH, YOU KNOW, DONATIONS AND FOOD AND OTHER
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ITEMS TO HELP THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR TIME OF NEED.WORLD CENTRAL KITCHEN COME OUT AND PROVIDE FOOD.
WE HAD EPICURE PROVIDE DRY GOODS.
SIMON'S HOUSE, THE SALVATION ARMY HAS BEEN FEEDING RESIDENTS DOWN THERE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
OPERATION BARBECUE CAME DOWN YESTERDAY AND PROVIDED A LOT OF FOOD.
AND I THINK THEY WRAPPED UP AROUND 8:00 LAST NIGHT, AND THEY DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB.
WE'VE ALSO HAD JUST OUR COMMUNITY PEOPLE THAT JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE.
SO WE HAD A ONE ON ONE TO PROVIDE IS A FOOD TRUCK CALLED THREE MOON FOOD TRUCK.
THEY SAID, HEY, WE WANT TO PROVIDE FOOD.
THEY THEY WANTED TO PROVIDE IT FOR FREE AND THEY JUST WANTED A PLACE TO SET UP.
AND SO WE AT THE EOC WERE ABLE TO FACILITATE THAT AND PROVIDE THAT THE LOCATION FOR THEM.
AND THEY CAME DOWN ON THEIR OWN AND PROVIDED THAT FOOD FOR FREE.
IT'S IT'S A SIGNIFICANT WHEN YOU'RE IMPACTED.
NOW FOR THE FUTURE WE'RE STILL UNDER A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE ARE ENACTING THOSE PROVISIONS OF THOSE CONTRACTS TO GET DEBRIS.
I'LL HAVE PUBLIC WORK COME UP HERE IN A SECOND.
AGAIN, I WOULD JUST SAY TO THE PUBLIC, BE PATIENT WITH US AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.
WE ARE NOT THE ONLY IMPACTED COMMUNITY WITHIN THE SOUTH, YOU KNOW, SOUTHEAST PORTION OF THE COUNTRY.
AND SO EVERYBODY IS COMPETING FOR THESE RESOURCES.
AND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH OUR PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MOVING THOSE THOSE THOSE OPERATIONS FORWARD.
AND THEN I'LL WRAP UP WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
GREG CALDWELL, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, COMMISSION, EVEN BEFORE MILTON HIT, WE WERE ENGAGED WITH OUR EMERGENCY CONTRACTORS, TETRA TECH AND ASHBRITT, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE PREPARED TO COME IN AND SUPPORT SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY AND OUR NEED.
LUCKILY, WE WERE NOT IMPACTED AS MUCH AS WE COULD HAVE BEEN.
BUT FROM A WEEK AGO, WE STARTED TALKING TO THEM, STARTED GETTING WITH OUR PROCUREMENT, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAD A PLAN READY TO HAVE THEM COME IN AND SUPPORT US EVEN TO THIS WEEKEND. ASHBRITT WAS ON SITE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY SCOUTING THE ENTIRE AREA, UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE IMPACTS WERE HIT THE MOST.
COULD NOT GET INTO HASTINGS BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WERE FLOODED.
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK THOSE AREAS AND SEE WHAT'S GENERATED DOWN IN THAT LOCATION.
WE'RE NO LONGER IN YARD DEBRIS MODE.
THANK YOU, MR. CALDWELL, A COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.
AND THEN WE HAVE A SECOND HURRICANE.
I DON'T WANT TO LOOK BAD ON THE PEOPLE THAT WORK SO HARD AND HAVE BEEN LIVING AT THE EOC, AND THEY'RE STILL LIVING THERE AT, WHAT, 4 OR 5 NIGHTS? SIX NIGHTS, AND WITH AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES.
SO THEY JUST WANT TO KNOW WHEN.
SO RIGHT NOW UP TO THIS DAY, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANYBODY ELSE BESIDES FCC.
BUT NOW WE'RE ABLE TO BRING IN ASHBRITT AND GET REIMBURSED THROUGH THIS FEMA DECLARATION.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH.
SO FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE STILL INTERNAL RESOURCES OUT THERE COLLECTING.
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WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FCC WITH AN INCREASED LEVEL OF EFFORT FROM THEIR SIDE.PLUS NOW BRINGING ASHBRITT IN.
SO IT'S A PRETTY MUCH A THREE PRONGED APPROACH.
THANK YOU. AND JUST ONE LAST THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.
HERE YOU'LL SEE ME OR THROUGH THE CONSENT ITEMS. WE'LL GET THE ACTUAL CONTRACTS AND GRANT AGREEMENTS THROUGH FEMA.
AND THE STATE WILL HAVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THE ON THE, I GUESS, MORE OF THE MONEY SIDE OF IT.
WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT.
AND WE'RE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ENACTING.
BUT BE SURE THAT WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY OF IT.
AND WITH THAT, THANK YOU QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, SO ARE WE GETTING THE DEBRIS PICKED UP SOONER THAN LATER? SO, LIKE GREG SAID, BRINGING IN THOSE THOSE EXTRA CONTRACTS? YES. I WOULD SAY BRINGING IN EXTRA RESOURCES SHOULD BRING IT SOONER.
BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY, FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN HERE THROUGH PREVIOUS STORMS, LIKE MATTHEW AND IRMA, WHEN WE HAD HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CUBIC YARDS OF DEBRIS AND TOOK MONTHS TO PICK UP.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LOT OF RESOURCES AT THAT TIME, ESPECIALLY IN MATTHEW.
WE WERE THE MOST IMPACTED COMMUNITY.
BUT THIS TIME EVERYBODY'S IMPACTED.
BUT WE ARE GETTING ENACTING THOSE.
THOSE CONTRACTS IN ASHBURN AND TETRA TECH HAVE ASSURED US THEY'RE COMING.
AND LIKE GREG SAID, THEY'LL BE HERE THIS WEEK.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I JUST WANT TO EXTEND A HEARTFELT THANK YOU.
DIRECTOR COLE MENTIONED HURRICANE FATIGUE.
I KNOW THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THAT EOC MORNING, NOON AND NIGHT FOR.
IT FEELS LIKE WEEKS, RIGHT? I MEAN, AND AND I KNOW WHEN PEOPLE GET SCARED THAT FEAR CAN TURN TO ANGER.
AND WHEN YOU FEEL SOME OF THOSE PHONE CALLS, PEOPLE ARE NOT ON THEIR BEST BEHAVIOR.
MR. CALDWELL, THANK YOU TO PUBLIC WORKS.
I SAW THE VIDEOS OF ROAD AND BRIDGE OUT THERE.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.
AS JOE IS WALKING AWAY FROM THE PODIUM, I WANTED TO HAVE THE PLEASURE OF TAKING JUST A QUICK MOMENT.
AS A RESIDENT, I HAD THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY WITNESS THIS TEAM IN ACTION UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF JOE, AND HE PERSONALLY GUIDED ME THROUGH A LOT OF DECISION MAKING.
HOW MANY STORMS WAS UNDER HIS BELT? WE CAN'T EVEN COUNT. I KNOW HE REMEMBERS EVERY ONE OF THEM, AND HE TREATS THEM WITH THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF VIGILANCE.
WHETHER IT'S A TROPICAL STORM, IT'S A POTENTIAL WARNING OR IT'S A CATEGORY FIVE.
AND HE LEADS A IMPRESSIVE COLLABORATIVE TEAM.
ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS COLLABORATIVE TEAM IS VISITOR AND CONVENTION BUREAU.
AND SUSAN PHILIP WAS SITTING IN THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS LITTLE BOOTH WITH ME ALONGSIDE FOR THREE DAYS.
AND SHE CAME UP WITH THIS AMAZING IDEA OF THIS VIDEO.
WE'RE HERE FOR YOU RESIDENTS, AND WE'RE HERE FOR YOU, FOR THE VISITORS.
AND IT WILL REMAIN TO BE THE GREATEST PLACE TO LIVE AND VISIT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THIS VIDEO THAT SUSAN ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER.
THANK YOU. I THINK PEOPLE WHO HAVE A HEART FOR PEOPLE COME TOGETHER.
OUR HEARTS ARE WITH OUR FELLOW FLORIDIANS.
IT WAS A VERY TOUGH SEVERAL WEEKS.
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IT WAS DEVASTATING. AND AS FLORIDIANS, WE ARE RESILIENT.WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH.
WE UNDERSTAND HOW EMOTIONALLY, PHYSICALLY, MENTALLY EXHAUSTED YOU ARE.
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH HURRICANE MATTHEW AND IRMA AND IAN, AND WE UNDERSTAND THE REBUILDING PROCESS.
AND YOU WERE THERE FOR US AND NOW WE ARE THERE FOR YOU.
WE FEEL SO BLESSED HERE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE BECAUSE NOW WE CAN OFFER HOSPITALITY TO PEOPLE COMING HERE, WHETHER THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THE DEVASTATION OR IF THEY JUST NEED A PLACE TO REST FOR A WHILE.
WE'RE JUST HERE TO SAY WELCOME.
IF YOU WANT A PLACE TO COME AND SOAK UP SOME OF OUR SUNSHINE, ENJOY SOME OF OUR HISTORY.
MANY OF OUR BUSINESSES ARE CURRENTLY OFFERING DISCOUNTS TO ALL RESIDENTS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
PLEASE KNOW THAT SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY IS HERE FOR YOU.
FROM PONTE VEDRA TO SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH TO HASTINGS, WE ARE READY TO WELCOME YOU WITH OPEN ARMS. WE ARE HERE FOR YOU.
I WANT TO. THANK YOU, MISS ANDREWS.
AND THANK YOU, MISS PHILLIPS, FOR FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
I KNOW IT'S KIND OF A STATEWIDE CAMPAIGN OF FLORIDIANS HELPING FLORIDIANS, BUT.
BUT WE WERE LUCKIER THAN MOST, AND IT'S TIME FOR US TO HELP THOSE THAT WEREN'T.
[Deletions to Consent Agenda]
YES, MA'AM. COULD I PULL EIGHT AND NINE, PLEASE? EIGHT. AND NINE.WE WILL MOVE THOSE TO THE END OF THE REGULAR AGENDA.
MADAM CHAIR, I THINK THAT MIKE MAY BE ABLE TO ELABORATE A LITTLE MORE.
I THINK THE APPLICANT FOR NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS THE TWIN CREEK IMPACT FEE CREDIT, HAD REQUESTED FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO BE HERE, TO BE HEARD TO THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE IN PERSON.
THANK YOU. WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO TABLING IT TO WHEN THEY COULD BE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.
SO THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TABLE ITEM NUMBER NINE.
AND MOVE EIGHT TO THE END OF THE REGULAR AGENDA.
OKAY. COMMISSIONER LIMO. I HAVE NONE.
I HAVE NONE, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.
NONE. MADAM CHAIR. COMMISSIONER DEAN.
WHAT'S YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE'LL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE WILL, MA'AM.
THE FINAL PLAT FOR DEERFIELD MEADOWS.
OKAY. DO YOU NEED MY ADDRESS? YES. IT'S 379 DEERFIELD MEADOWS CIRCLE.
I ALSO AM NOT SURE WHY THE PRESENCE OF BALD EAGLES AND A POTENTIAL NEST HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED.
THEY ARE SEEN THERE DAILY AS WELL AS SANDHILL CRANES IN THIS AREA.
SO THE THE PRESERVATION OF THOSE PROTECTED SPECIES WOULD BE OF CONCERN.
AND ALSO THE ANGLE OF THE ROAD.
AND IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE REPLATTING SPECIFICALLY, THE PROPOSED REPLAT CREATES A DIRECT THREAT TO THE INFRINGEMENT OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE THERE, AND CURVING AND CREATING AN ANGLE THAT WOULD DIRECT THE THE TRAFFIC TO AN AREA THAT I THINK WOULD IMPOSE NEW
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DANGERS FOR THE FOR THE EXISTING HOUSEHOLDS.AS WELL AS THE THE SPECIES THAT ARE PROTECTED.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR.
COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS CLAUDIA THOMAS.
I LIVE AT THREE, FOUR, TWO SAN JUAN DRIVE IN PONTE VEDRA.
I'M NOT SURE SIMILARLY, WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO WAIT? THAT'S ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.
THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU MA'AM.
MISS THOMAS. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY, BACK TO THE BOARD. I'M COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.
I GUESS I'D LIKE TO PULL CONSENT ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE.
WE WILL MOVE THAT TO THE END OF THE REGULAR AGENDA.
OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE?
[Approval of Consent Agenda]
SO MOVED. SECOND.PLEASE VOTE. AND THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED, AS AMENDED.
OKAY. ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE REGULAR AGENDA?
[Additions/Deletions to Regular Agenda]
COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? YES, MA'AM.I HAVE A COUPLE. NUMBER SEVEN, PLEASE.
I SEE THAT THE ATTORNEY CAME UP FRONT HERE.
THERE'S SO MANY OPEN COMMENTS, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S APPROPRIATE.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE FOR YOU.
THE PEOPLE OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.
IT'S A 3200 HOME PROJECT THAT IS BEING PUSHED THROUGH.
AND I'M CONCERNED THAT A RESPONSIBLE COMMISSIONER WOULD NOT PUSH THIS THROUGH SO QUICKLY WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE, SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, AND FOR THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF THE PEOPLE WE ARE ELECTED TO REPRESENT.
WE MUST TABLE THIS POSSIBLY FOR 60 DAYS UNTIL THE NEW COMMISSIONERS COME ON BOARD.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S READY FOR PRIME TIME.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH MR. KOMANDO, COULD I GET YOUR LEGAL OPINION ON THAT? BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THIS IS THIS IS NOT UP TO THE COMMISSION TO REMOVE FROM THE AGENDA.
IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU VOTE IT UP OR DOWN.
YOU CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE APPLICANT IF THEY WISH TO HAVE IT.
BUT OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW MANUAL DOES PROVIDE THAT AS AN OPTION.
CAN I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION THAT IT BE TABLED? I MEAN, YOU CAN YOU CAN ASK FOR IT.
I I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE APPLICANT MULTIPLE TIMES.
I BELIEVE THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND IT'S WELL WITHIN THEIR RIGHT TO DO SO.
OKAY. SO IF THAT'S A MOTION, THEN THERE'S NO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.
MOTION FAILS DUE TO LACK OF A SECOND.
I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION, MA'AM, ON NUMBER 12.
OKAY. THE VOTERS HAVE VOTED FOR A CHANGE IN THE WAY SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY IS GOVERNED.
WE SHOULD RESPECT THE MESSAGE THE VOTERS HAVE SENT.
IT IS WRONG FOR THE CURRENT BOARD AFTER IT HAS BEEN VOTED OUT, TO TRY TO ENTRENCH ITS POLICIES AND PREVENT THE INCOMING DEMOCRATIC, DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED BOARD FROM CHANGING THEM.
THE TERM DEEP STATE IS DISCUSSED A LOT IN NATIONAL POLITICS.
THAT TERM REFERS TO BUREAUCRATS WHO ARE ENTRENCHED AND UNANSWERABLE TO THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.
HERE, THE LAME DUCK BOARD PROPOSES AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD TIE THE HANDS OF THE NEXT BOARD.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM.
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, IN WHAT WAY DOES ITEM 12 TIE THE HANDS OF A FUTURE BOARD? WHO ARE YOU ASKING THAT QUESTION OF, ME OR THE ATTORNEY?
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WELL, TO TWO COMMISSIONERS BASICALLY HAVE BEEN VOTED OUT.SO YOU'RE MAKING A NEW RULE FOR THE BOARD COMING FORWARD.
AND A SIMPLE MAJORITY CAN REVERSE THAT WITH THE NEW BOARD.
THIS IS ABOUT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR NOT BEING ABLE TO.
IT HAS A SUPERMAJORITY TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND CHANGE THE ORDINANCE.
I'M NOT SPECIFICALLY SAYING JOY ANDREWS WOULD BE FIRED.
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
WHAT HAPPENS TO DO WITH FUTURE BOARDS FOR YEARS TO COME? I MEAN, I THINK THE FUTURE BOARD WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE OR FIRE, AND WHEN THE CONTRACT EXPIRES OF THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATOR, THE SAME RULES EXIST FOR THE FUTURE BOARD AS IT DOES FOR THE CURRENT BOARD.
THE SUPERMAJORITY IS WHAT WAS ENACTED WHEN THERE WAS SEVEN COMMISSIONERS.
THIS THIS ORDINANCE REALLY CHANGES NOTHING RELATING TO OUR ABILITY TO HIRE OR FIRE THE COUNTY.
I MEAN, IT'S THERE'S A CONTRACT THAT EXISTS.
THIS IS EXACTLY TAKING AWAY THE FREEDOM FROM THE PEOPLE OF SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY.
THAT'S NOT AT ALL WHAT THIS IS.
YES IT IS. THE CONTRACT STATES THAT IT REQUIRES A 4 TO 1 VOTE.
THIS SIMPLY BRINGS THAT THIS ORDINANCE INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE CONTRACT.
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU CLAIM IT TO BE.
AND I THINK SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SAY THAT I DISAGREE WITH YOU.
AND THE CHAIR ACTUALLY PUT THIS ON ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE OF SOME FEAR OF US FIRING IF THE BOARD MAJORITY WANTS TO FIRE JOY ANDREWS, WHICH WAS TOLD TO ONE OF THE OTHER WORKERS IN THE COUNTY WHO TOLD ME SO, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS SILLY AND I DISAGREE WITH YOU, AND I HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. ENOUGH.
ENOUGH WITH CONSPIRACY THEORIES.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MOTION FAILS DUE TO LACK OF A SECOND.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE REGULAR AGENDA? COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.
OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE THE REGULAR AGENDA.
[Approval of Regular Agenda]
SO MOVED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY.PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT'S APPROVED FOR ONE THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.
[1. St. Johns County Park Foundation Funding Request. The St. Johns County Parks Foundation, INC. initially entered into an agreement with the St. Johns County Board of County Commissioners in FY22 for funding to support initiatives with The Parks and Recreation Department. The Foundation requests a continuation of financial support, in the amount of $120,000, as the non-profit pursues initiatives and opportunities that align with their goals and objectives. The Parks and Recreation Department supports the request for the continuation of funding and was included in the adopted FY 25 budget.]
GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD MORNING, BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
I'M THE NEWLY APPOINTED EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY PARKS FOUNDATION.
I AM HONORED TO STEP INTO THIS ROLE, WHICH I BEGAN JUST BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST OF THIS YEAR.
SO DAY 16, THEY SENT THE NEW GIRL IN.
WELL, I AM NEW TO THE POSITION.
I AM NOT NEW TO THE HAPPENINGS WITHIN THE FOUNDATION, THE COUNTY OR RECREATION.
THIS YEAR I HAVE SERVED ON THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD AND WAS PREVIOUSLY THE FORMER LIAISON FOR PARKS AND RECREATION UNDER THE OFFICE OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS. I AM A MEMBER OF OUR LOCAL MEDIA AND I HAVE ALWAYS ADVOCATED FOR PARKS AND SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND CONTINUED SUPPORT.
HERE ARE THE THREE BIG SUCCESSES THAT WE'VE ACHIEVED IN OUR SHORT TIME AS A FOUNDATION.
IN. JOHNS COUNTY PARKS FOUNDATION PROUDLY ESTABLISHED A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PONTE VEDRA ROTARY CLUB TO INSTALL A MUCH NEEDED WATER BOTTLE REFILL STATION AT NOCATEE FIELDS.
LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF LONGLEAF PINE AND GREENBRIAR ROAD.
THE CANRIGHT HOUSE MADE HEADLINES FROM THE START.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE DRAFTING A LETTER OF SUPPORT WHERE THE HOUSE IS WAITING TO BE MOVED.
GOOD MORNING. A HISTORIC HOME IN SAINT AUGUSTINE FINALLY ARRIVES AS ITS NEW LOCATION.
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AFTER RECEIVING A STATE GRANT, THE HISTORIC CANRIGHT HOUSE WAS SUCCESSFULLY RELOCATED TO COLLIER-BLOCKER PURYEAR PARK.WHILE THIS ENDEAVOR HOLDS SIGNIFICANT VALUE TO THE FOUNDATION, WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT IS THAT IT REPRESENTS A PRICELESS CONTRIBUTION TO SAINT JOHNS COUNTY'S LEGACY IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.
NOW, WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, THESE PROJECTS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE SINCE THE FOUNDATION BEGAN.
THE TOTAL VALUE OF THESE PROJECTS ARE ESTIMATED JUST TO BE OVER $1 MILLION.
ALONGSIDE THE FOUNDATION BOARD, WHICH IS ALSO LOOKING TO GROW.
I AM EAGER TO REINTRODUCE THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY PARKS FOUNDATION TO SAINT JOHNS COUNTY AND PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR RECREATIONAL BASED PROGRAMS, LEAD THE WAY IN THE ENHANCEMENTS OF OUR PARKS AND NATURAL SPACES.
ADVOCATE FOR CONSERVING AND PRESERVING OUR HISTORY, LAND AND WATERWAYS.
AND WE WANT TO DO THIS WITH YOU, THE BOARD, AND OF COURSE, WITH OUR RESIDENTS.
TOGETHER WITH THE FOUNDATION BOARD, WE ASPIRE FOR THE FOUNDATION TO BE A BRIDGE THAT FOSTERS PROGRESS AND ENHANCES EVERYONE'S QUALITY OF LIFE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU, MISS ROSS. IT IS ABSOLUTELY A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU BACK HERE IN THIS BUILDING.
AND THE PARKS FOUNDATION HAS MADE AN EXCELLENT CHOICE WITH YOU BEING THEIR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
I HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE THAT Y'ALL ARE GOING TO BE WILDLY SUCCESSFUL.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE BOARD PICTURE? I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT JUST A LITTLE LONGER OF THE PEOPLE.
ARE YOU INTERESTED? WE'RE ACTIVELY RECRUITING.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? OKAY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS ROSS.
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT NOW.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE DO NEED A MOTION FROM THE BOARD TO DIRECT US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AGREEMENT AND FUNDING OPPORTUNITY.
OKAY. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, HAPPY TO MOVE IT.
COMMISSIONER DEAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE THIS? I KNOW THIS. HIT THE BUTTON FIRST.
MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2024 462.
SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
NOW WE'LL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE'LL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK. PLEASE COME FORWARD.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY, WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD. A MOTION AND A SECOND.
PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO.
OKAY. ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS QUASI JUDICIAL.
[2. Public Hearing * REZ 2024-16 Auto Pros Consulting. Request to rezone approximately 0.20 acres of land from Commercial General (CG) to Commercial Intensive (CI) to allow for used Automobile Sales; specifically located on First Avenue, approximately .5 miles south of the Northeast Florida Regional Airport. The Planning and Zoning Agency heard this request at their regularly scheduled public hearing on September 19, 2024, and recommended approval with a vote of 4 to 0. Agency members and the applicant agreed to add a condition that the only Commercial Intensive (CI) use allowed on the property would be for Automotive Sales.]
COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.CAN YOU COME BACK TO ME? COMMISSIONER ALAIMO? I HAD NO MEETINGS AND NO EMAILS, MADAM CHAIR.
OKAY. I MYSELF HAVE NO RECORD OF ANY EMAILS OR ANY MEETINGS, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.
NO RECORD OF ANY EMAILS OR MEETINGS.
ITEM NUMBER TWO. GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
I RESIDE AT 122 UNICORN ROAD, SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, 32086.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
THIS MEETING MEANS A LOT TO MY BUSINESS AND MY IMMEDIATE AND LONG TERM FUTURE GOALS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
IT'S AN ABNORMALLY EXTREMELY SMALL SCALE USED VEHICLE OPERATION.
IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A COG IN HONDA OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE A BIG CAR DEALERSHIP BY ANY MEANS.
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IT'S JUST A I'M A ONE MAN SHOW.THERE'S NO SERVICE OR PARTS DEPARTMENT, NO INTENSIVE STUFF LIKE THAT.
I'M A SINGLE EMPLOYEE, SELF EMPLOYED.
3 TO 5 VEHICLES PARKED INSIDE OF A BUILDING.
FOR SALE. THERE'S ANOTHER USED AUTO SALES DEALERSHIP JUST A FIFTH OF A MILE NORTH OF ME.
THERE'S ANOTHER CI PROPERTY JUST A 10TH OF A MILE AWAY.
THERE'S A LARGE COMMERCIAL BUILDING, TWO PROPERTIES NORTH.
THERE'S A LARGE CIRCLE K GAS STATION WITH A CAR WASH IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR.
HERE'S JUST A FEW. THERE'S A PLETHORA OF OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED UNDER THE CURRENT CG ZONING THAT ARE WAY MORE INTENSIVE, IN MY OPINION, THAN WHAT I'M TRYING TO TRYING TO DO.
CONVENIENCE STORES, SMALL CAR RENTAL OFFICES, GROCERY STORES, RV STORES, ALCOHOL SALES.
THE MAIN THING IS ALSO THE PCA UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THIS REZONING.
LET ME GIVE YOU SHOW YOU A FEW THINGS HERE.
PRETTY MUCH RIGHT, RIGHT NEXT TO US.
IT'S CURRENTLY CG, AS WE KNOW.
THERE'S A JUST A ROUGH IDEA OF, OF KIND OF CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN THERE.
I MEAN, I'M SORRY, ONE PARKING SPOT PER 500FT² OF BUILDING.
BUT IN REALITY, I DON'T EVEN NEED THAT MUCH PARKING.
SO IT'S JUST AN EXTREMELY SMALL SCALE OPERATION.
IN SUMMARY, I ASK, PLEASE, FOR YOUR GRANTING OF THIS REZONING TO CY TO CONDUCT MY EXTREMELY LOW SCALE USED VEHICLE VEHICLE SALE OPERATION, WHICH IS LESS INTENSIVE THAN THE ABOVE MENTIONED BUSINESSES ALREADY ALLOWED UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING OF CG.
THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, 20 YEAR, 20 YEAR VENTURE FOR ME MOVING FORWARD.
JUST ME AND MYSELF DOING THIS ON A SMALL SCALE.
I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF REZONING AND SELLING OFF THE PROPERTY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONERS, FOR YOUR FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
SO HOW MANY CARS ARE YOU LOOKING TO? I MEAN, IT'S I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY.
IT'S A VERY SMALL STRIP OF LAND THERE.
I MEAN, HOW MANY CARS ARE YOU LOOKING TO TO SELL? I MEAN, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A THE METAL BUILDING THAT.
IS THAT GOING ALONG BY THE GAS STATION? IS THAT SORT OF WHERE THAT'S GOING ALONG? YES, SIR. YEAH. ALONG THE GAS STATION PROPERTY LINE.
NOT NOT NOT PER WEEK, BUT PER MONTH.
I MEAN, IT'S A VERY LOW SCALE.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN THE BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE OUTSIDE ON DISPLAY OR ANYTHING.
IT'S LITERALLY I JUST WANT A BUILDING TO KEEP THE CARS NICE AND CLEAN AND BE ABLE TO BE COMFORTABLE FOR MY CUSTOMERS WHEN THEY COME IN TO, LIKE, A SHOWROOM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THING VERSUS JUST THE DMV REQUIRES REQUIREMENTS IS JUST A TEN BY TEN OFFICE, AND YOU CAN HAVE CARS OUTSIDE.
BUT I'M TRYING TO BE THE OPPOSITE.
OKAY. THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE'RE NOT HERE. PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY, WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD.
COMMISSIONER DEAN, I'M PREPARED TO MOVE THIS.
MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 20 2450 APPROVING REZONING 2024 DASH 16 AUTO.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE AND FOUR.
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ALSO QUASI JUDICIAL COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.COMMISSIONER LIMO, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
I HAD ONE EMAIL AND I HAD NO RECOLLECTION OF ANY MEETINGS.
OKAY. I HAVE THE SAME RECORDS.
COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, SAME COMMISSIONER DEAN.
OKAY. GOOD MORNING, MISS TAYLOR.
GOOD MORNING, KAREN TAYLOR, 77 SARAGOSA STREET.
AND MY CLIENT IS HERE WITH ME.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN'T ANSWER.
ANYWAY, WE ARE HERE FOR FOUR LAKES CAMPGROUND, WHICH IS DOWN ON 13 A AND IT'S FOR A SMALL SCALE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT FOR RURAL SILVICULTURE AND AGRICULTURAL INTENSIVE TO RURAL, COMMERCIAL AND THEN FROM RURAL SILVICULTURE TO AGRICULTURAL.
SO WE KIND OF PUT THESE TOGETHER.
AND THERE'S A COMPANION REZONING FOR THE CR PORTION.
THAT WOULD BE I MEAN, FOR THE RC PORTION, THAT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL RURAL.
SO JUST TO KIND OF SHOW AND KIND OF GIVING YOU AN IDEA, THIS IS A LAKE THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE IN THE CAMPGROUND AND DELETES THOSE, DELINEATES THOSE THINGS I JUST MENTIONED.
AS FOR LOCATION AGAIN, IT'S SOUTHEAST OF HASTINGS.
YOU CAN SEE THE MAIN STREET AREA UP HERE, GEORGE MILLER ROAD, THAT AND I'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE KIND OF SHOWS YOU ALSO HOW RELATIONSHIP IS TO FLAGLER ESTATES, FLAGLER ESTATES BOULEVARD.
THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE THERE HAVE BEEN AROUND THIS AREA.
THERE WAS A THERE WAS AN AREA IN A STORE THAT'S STILL THERE.
THE BUZZ MART'S KIND OF ALWAYS BEEN THE KIND OF CENTRAL LITTLE AREA OF THAT.
SO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A CLOSE UP TO SHOW YOU THE, THE PIECES.
AND I'M SURE YOU'VE REVIEWED THIS AND TALKED ABOUT IT AND STUFF.
SO I WON'T GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL BUT JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU THE RELATIONSHIP.
AND THEN THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST A CLOSE UP SHOWING YOU THE EXISTING CAMPGROUND THAT EXISTS.
IT'S NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION, BUT THIS AREA WOULD BE ADDED TO THAT.
THAT'S THE ACCESS THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW.
THE SAME THING THAT WILL BE USED FOR THIS.
AND THEN THE AREAS OVER HERE KIND OF WRAP AROUND SOME OTHER AREAS.
AND THAT'S THE REQUEST FROM THE FOR THE CHANGE FOR THE LAND USE FROM RS TO I.
SO FUTURE LAND USE FOR THAT GENERAL AREA.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S KIND OF ISOLATED FOR ANY COMMERCIAL OBVIOUSLY.
AND THIS WOULD BE THE EXISTING CAMPGROUND, THE THAT WOULD BE SHOWN IN RED, AS WELL AS THE BUZZ MART, AS WELL AS THE DOLLAR GENERAL STORE THAT'S AT THE ENTRANCE TO FLAGLER ESTATES.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT RELATIONSHIP.
AND ACTUALLY THERE'S COUNTY PARK PIECE RIGHT HERE.
THAT'S PARK AND RECREATION THAT ISN'T DEVELOPED AS A PARK, BUT IT'S THERE.
AND SO WITH THE LAND USE AMENDMENT, THAT WOULD CHANGE THE AREA THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE INTO ADDING THAT TO THE CAMPGROUND THAT'S NEXT TO IT.
AND IT WOULD TAKE THE AREA THAT GOES AROUND HERE AND CHANGE THAT AGAIN FROM RS.
TO, TO I JUST TO KIND OF AREA ZONING.
ALSO, IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE DID SOME OF THE OTHER.
THERE'S THIS KIND OF AWKWARD ARG2 OUT HERE, BUT MOST OF IT'S OR AND THEN AGAIN, THE COMMERCIAL RURAL ZONING THAT EXISTS ON THE SITES WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND THE CHANGE FOR THAT, HOW THAT WOULD LOOK.
IT'S JUST A LITTLE SPACE IN THERE TO THAT RURAL COMMERCIAL.
AND THEN ALSO THE RS TWO, I AND SO IT'S EXPANSION OF THE CAMPGROUND REMOVAL OF THAT PARTICULAR THE DIFFERENT THINGS AND, YOU KNOW, WILL SERVE THAT AREA AND THE RS TO I AND I TO RC ALL THOSE ARE OPERATING BUSINESSES.
THEY'RE NOT IN A DEVELOPMENT AREA AS DEFINED BY THE COUNTY, BUT THEY'RE ESTABLISHED.
IT'S A COMMERCIAL CENTER THERE.
SO THAT'S VERY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS.
AND THE SES TO I IS TO ALLOW FOR THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT EXISTS THERE RIGHT NOW AND THE AGRICULTURAL USES AS WELL. SO AGAIN, THAT BASICALLY THE THE CHANGE FOR THAT 19.97 ACRES IS ADJACENT TO THAT CONVENIENCE STORE AND FOR THE THE CAMPGROUND SO THAT IT CAN WORK WORK ALONG WITH THAT EXISTING CAMPGROUND.
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IT HAS MINIMAL WETLANDS ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE, BUT IT DOES HAVE A BOUNDARY.SO THERE WILL BE BUFFERS REQUIRED TO TO THAT THAT'S OFF SITE.
AND SES DOES ALLOW FOR PRIMITIVE CAMPGROUNDS.
THAT'S HOW IT STARTED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
AND SO HE'S UPGRADED IT AND MADE IT INTO THAT.
SO JUST WANTS TO BE ABLE TO ADD TO THAT.
AND THE AI LAND USE PARCEL IS 20 ACRES RIGHT NOW.
RS. REQUIRES A LOT LARGER PIECE OF PROPERTY.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE IN ORDER TO HAVE A HOUSE ON IT.
SO WHEN WE LOSE THE PROPERTY THAT'S GOING TO BE USED NOW AS THE CAMPGROUND, IT GOES DOWN TO THE 20 ACRES AND I ALLOWS FOR AGRICULTURAL USES AND A RESIDENCE ON 20 ACRES.
SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT.
JUST THE THE MAPS KIND OF SHOWING YOU THE DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO AND AGAIN, SO THERE'S PARCEL A, B AND B1.
THAT'S THAT FOR THE RURAL COMMERCIAL AREA, AND THIS IS THE REMAINDER, WHICH IS THE PARCEL C, AND THAT WOULD REMAIN AGRICULTURAL, BUT IT WOULD JUST HAVE THE IE LAND USE.
ALWAYS HELPS, I THINK, TO HAVE THE SITE PLAN OVER AN EXISTING AERIAL.
THERE'S A LOVELY RECREATION AREA THAT'S IN THAT PARCEL B1 AND SO THAT WILL SERVE AS PART OF IT.
AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THOSE LAKES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT FOR A LONG TIME, BUT THEY ADD A LOT TO THIS.
SO THIS WAS ACTUALLY JUST THE ENVIRONMENTAL.
JUST SO EVERYBODY COULD KIND OF SEE IT.
AND SOME OF THE THINGS JUST THERE IS KIND OF A NATURAL BUFFER THAT WILL RUN ALONG FLAGLER BOULEVARD.
YOU'LL NOTE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACCESSES PLANNED TO THAT.
AND AS I SAID, YOU CAN SEE THE THE DIFFERENT WETLAND AREAS THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED AND PRESERVED.
SO AGAIN, TO GO ALONG WITH THIS, WE HAVE THE REZONING REQUEST.
SO I'M JUST KIND OF COMBINING BOTH OF THEM.
AND IT'S REALLY FOR THE SAME KIND OF IDEA.
THE REZONING WOULD ALLOW HIM TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND THAT CAMPGROUND AND COME INTO THIS.
SO THAT'S JUST AGAIN, THERE'S 54.
IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A WHOLE LARGE TYPE THING EITHER.
AND THE CAMPGROUND, THE NEW SITES WILL CONFORM TO THE SAME AS THE OTHER SITES, WHICH YOU KNOW, ARE ARE DEVELOPED AS THEY ARE.
SO THE REZONING, AGAIN, IS JUST FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND SHOWS YOU THE ACCESS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE RECREATION AREAS AND AGAIN, THE REZONING WITH THAT.
SO JUST A LITTLE TO COME IN CLOSE.
THAT MAKES THE CAMPGROUND ABOUT 26 ACRES.
IT ADDS THOSE 7.6 ACRES OF LAKES TO IT THAT WILL STAY.
AND HE'S ACTUALLY IMPROVED THOSE QUITE A BIT AS WELL.
AND AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S THE AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE PLAN.
SO THE THE DELINEATION LINE BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES DOES RUN ALONG THAT JURISDICTIONAL LINE.
SO THERE IS UPLAND BUFFER, 25 FOOT BUFFER AND BUFFER THAT WILL BE PROVIDED.
AERIAL VIEW OF THE CAMPGROUND COMING IN OFF 13.
AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE TOWARDS THE END HERE IS THE PROPERTY WHERE SOME OF THE CAMPSITES, HALF THE CAMPSITES, NEW CAMPSITES WOULD BE THE ENTRANCE AND OFFICES, SOME OF THE RECREATION PLAY AREAS.
YOU CAN SEE THE LAKE IS A AMENITY FOR THAT.
AND THEN THIS IS THE SITE FOR THE ON THAT SOUTHERN PART FOR THOSE CAMPSITES CENTRAL LAKE, THE RECREATION AT THE END, THIS IS HEADING TOWARDS TOWARDS THE WEST TO THE MANAGER'S HOME.
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WHO IS THE OWNER HERE AS WELL? AND ALSO SHOWS YOU THAT THEY ALSO HAVE FACILITIES FOR ON SITE, SOMEONE TO TO LIVE THERE AS WELL.AND AGAIN, HEADING FARTHER WEST TO THE AND KIND OF SEE THAT AREA, AS THE COUNTY DOES HAVE THAT PARK AREA, THAT'S WHERE THAT LITTLE AREA THEY USE AND ACCESS THAT THROUGH THEM THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR PIECE SOMETIMES THIS IS THE MANAGER'S HOME.
AND THIS WOULD BE AMOS AVENUE THAT RUNS ADJACENT TO IT.
SO IT JUST COMES THROUGH THAT AREA TO KEEP THE THOSE WETLAND AREAS SO THEY'RE NOT IMPACTED AS WELL.
JUST JUST THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND THEN COMING BACK TOWARDS TOWARDS 1380.
THAT'S THE BUZZ MART, DOLLAR GENERAL.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST THE FRONTAGE ALONG.
THEY'RE JUST KIND OF SHOWING YOU THAT IT'S ALL RURAL AREA RELATED TO IT.
THE ENTRANCE TO FLAGLER ESTATES.
THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ACROSS FROM THE CAMPGROUND.
SO AGAIN, THERE'S TWO THERE'S THE REQUEST FOR THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS.
AND IT IS GREAT FOR THE AGRIBUSINESS TYPE THINGS TOO, BECAUSE PEOPLE GET TO STAY HERE AND SEE ALL THAT, THAT COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE COUNTY THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE MISS.
THE REZONING IS REALLY REQUIRED TO BE ABLE TO TO DO THE CAMPGROUND.
AND EVEN IF IT WASN'T YOU KNOW, I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION FROM SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT THAT SITE IS LAID OUT, IT WOULDN'T REALLY WORK FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE LAKES THAT ARE IN THERE AND THE WETLANDS.
SO THOSE ARE THE THE REQUESTS AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. YES, I HAVE THREE QUESTIONS.
ONE IS HOW DID IT DO IN THE HURRICANE STORM? DID IT FLOOD OR IT? NO, IT DID VERY WELL.
DID YOU WANT HIM TO COME UP AND TALK OR.
NO. HE SAID THE DITCHES THAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU, THAT RUN ALONG THE EDGE AND STUFF.
WE'RE FINE. THESE LAKES DIDN'T HAVE ANY ANY ISSUES.
OKAY. THE OTHER THE SECOND QUESTION IS, IS THE BIKE PATH NEAR THERE? NO, THE ONE THAT GOES. OKAY.
AND THEN THE THIRD IS WHAT DO YOU DO FOR FIRE? I SAW THE WORD DIP TUBE.
HOUSE OVER THERE. CAN YOU COME UP? FIRE STATION OVER THERE.
DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS? YEAH. IT'S JUST ACTUALLY, IT'S A JUST A BIG PIPE IN THE GROUND.
OH. I'M SORRY, IT'S A JUST A BIG PIPE IN THE IN THE.
JERRY HERRON, 98, 55 COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH.
THEY'VE DONE THAT A COUPLE TIMES.
WELL, EVENTUALLY HAVE A FIRE STATION OUT THERE.
YEAH, WELL, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME WATER OUT THERE AND THEN WE WON'T HAVE THAT, BUT IT WORKS.
I THINK FLAGLER ESTATES HAS ONE RIGHT AT THE AT THE BRIDGE ALSO.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISS TAYLOR.
OKAY. WITH THAT WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS THREE AND FOUR.
I WANTED TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK TO THIS BECAUSE I WAS AT PCA WHEN THIS CAME BEFORE.
SO I GOT TO HEAR THE WHOLE THING AND HEAR WHAT THE OWNER HAD TO SAY.
BUT I AM FAMILIAR WITH THIS CAMPGROUND.
WE DON'T GET VERY MANY OF THOSE.
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IT'S IN AN AREA WHERE IT'S SO COMPATIBLE.IT REALLY SHOWS THEM WHAT TRULY THE OLD TIME FLORIDA REALLY IS.
HE RUNS A QUALITY OPERATION THERE.
I THE AND HASTINGS, WITH THEIR REDEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN HAVE A PLACE TO GO.
USUALLY WHEN YOU'RE CAMPING, THEN YOU'RE, LIKE, LOOKING.
OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHERE CAN WE GO TO EAT OR WHERE CAN WE GO TO PURCHASE SOMETHING? AND THAT AREA OTHER THAN THE BUZZ MART DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR A REALLY, REALLY LONG TIME.
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS WILLIAM FISHER.
10130 MCMAHON AVENUE, FLAGLER ESTATES, AND I'VE KNOWN JERRY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW, AND HE IS VERY ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY OUT THERE. WHEN WE HAVE A BIG PROJECT GOING, HIM AND HIS SON BRING ICE CREAM OUT AND GIVE IT AWAY.
HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS WORTH AT A TIME NOW.
WHICH ONE WAS. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REZONING.
HE ONLY WANTS THAT TO BUILD A HOUSE FOR HIS MOTHER.
YES. VOTE YES ON THIS PROJECT.
OKAY. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, MADAM CHAIR WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY, WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION.
SECOND, OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
SECOND MOTION. MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2024.
SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT ALSO PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
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ALSO QUASI JUDICIAL COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.FOUR, PLUS QUITE A FEW ACTUALLY.
I HAD MEETINGS WITH BETH BREEDING AND BEN CULLOP YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT FOR THE PROJECT.
THEY WENT THROUGH SOME OF THE DETAILS AND WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING TO DO.
AND THEN I MET WITH SUSAN ROARK AND TERRY BRICKHOUSE.
THESE ARE RESIDENTS OF THE AREA THAT ARE OPPOSING THE PROJECT.
I MYSELF HAD A HANDFUL OF EMAILS.
I HAD A MEETING WITH BETH BREEDING AND DOCTOR RAZUL, THE LANDOWNER TO DISCUSS THEIR PLANS.
I ALSO HAD A MEETING WITH SUSAN ROARK AND TERRY BRICKHOUSE, WHO ARE THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTS.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I HAD SEVERAL EMAILS.
I HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY WITH BETH BREEDING, BEN CULLOP UP.
THEY DISCUSSED THE SMALL PORTION OF THE LAND THAT THEY BE USING.
THEY DISCUSSED THE CAPACITY ON THE ROAD.
THEY DISCUSSED THE SITE MANAGEMENT.
I ALSO HAD A SITE VISIT WITH MR. AND MRS. ROURKE AND TERRY BRICKHOUSE.
THEY INVITED ME INTO THEIR HOME.
I SAT THERE FOR AN HOUR AND I VIEWED A SLIDESHOW PRESENTATION.
THEIR OPPOSED BASED ON COMPATIBILITY, LIGHT AND NOISE IMPACTS TO THEIR COMMUNITY.
I HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY WITH BETH BREEDING AND BEN CULP, THE APPLICANT AND THE ENGINEER ADVISOR, AND THEY DISCUSSED THE PROJECT IN SOME DETAIL AND THE BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT AND MEETING THE COUNTY ORDINANCES.
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AND BASICALLY HIGHLIGHTED THE SAME POINTS THAT CHRISTIAN JUST MENTIONED IN THE RECORD.OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN.
BREEDING 1368 BIRMINGHAM ROAD SOUTH JACKSONVILLE 32207.
AS EVERYONE MENTIONED, WE SPOKE YESTERDAY, SO I'LL TRY TO BE A LITTLE MORE BRIEF TODAY.
I SEE WE'VE GOT OPPOSITION AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME FOR THEM.
SO TO START WITH I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
IT'S THE DEVELOPER WILL BE MANAGING THE PROPERTY IF WE'RE APPROVED.
HE'S THE CONTIGUOUS ADJACENT NEIGHBOR AND THE OWNER OF THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL.
AND WE HAVE JEFF KRAMER HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
AND I THINK THEY'RE MAJOR, AND I HOPE THEY'RE GOOD ENOUGH TO CONVINCE YOU THAT WE'RE DOING OUR BEST.
AGAIN, VEGETATION IN FRONT OF THE SITE.
YOU CAN SEE THERE THERE SHOULD BE ZERO VISIBILITY INTO THIS PROJECT AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT.
THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
YOU CAN SEE WE'RE DEAD CENTER BETWEEN I-95 AND 2209.
AS YOU CAN SEE, PART OF THE PROPERTY IS IN RISBY.
THE OTHER PART IS IN RURAL SILVICULTURE.
I DO WANT TO BRING TO LIGHT THERE.
I DID MAKE A MISSTATEMENT I WAS UNAWARE OF.
AND THANKS TO COMMISSIONER JOSEPH FOR POINTING IT OUT TO ME YESTERDAY.
THE SECOND PIECE, THAT'S THE TRIANGLE.
IT ACTUALLY DOES NOT TOUCH RUSSELL SAMPSON ROAD.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
NOW THAT IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THAT WAS INCORRECT.
JUST TO SHOW THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS DO NEED TO BE UPDATED AND MODIFIED.
EVERYTHING YOU SEE THERE IN HATCHING IS OVER THE GOURD ISLAND CONSERVATION AREA, AND IT'S SHOWING AS RED SEA AND REZ B, AND SO ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS EVEN TAKE SOME OF THE FUTURE LAND USE THAT'S ON OUR WETLANDS AND JUST MOVE IT TO THE ROAD FRONTAGE.
THAT'S WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS BELONG.
THIS IS JUST THE APPROXIMATE WETLANDS MAP.
SO AS YOU SEE, OUR TOTAL PROJECT IS ABOUT 31 ACRES.
WE'RE REALLY ONLY DEVELOPING APPROXIMATELY 7.51.
AND AS YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP, YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE JUST HOW HEAVILY VEGETATED IT IS.
SO WE DON'T BELIEVE THERE WILL BE ANY VISIBILITY FOR ANYONE ON THE SITE.
THERE HAD BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT CRIME.
I HAVE SEVERAL OTHER REPORTS AS WELL.
OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THIS OFF AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU OUR NEW REVISED SITE PLAN.
THIS 1ST MAY BE TOO LARGE, BUT I HAVE A SMALLER ZOOM IN.
OH, IT DOESN'T LOOK VERY GREAT.
BUT SO WHAT WE'VE ADDED HERE, WE HEARD THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO WHAT WE'VE ADDED IS THIS LEFT TURN LANE.
SO NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE A RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THE SITE.
IT WAS A CONCERN FOR THE CITIZENS ABOUT CHILDREN GOING TO SCHOOL AND ABOUT TRAFFIC, AND SO WE'RE WILLING TO WRITE INTO THE PUD DOCUMENTS AND TO SUBMIT A REVISED MDP THAT CLEARLY SHOWS ADDING A LEFT TURN LANE.
SO THAT SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS ABOUT STOPPING TRAFFIC WHILE SOMEONE IS TURNING IN.
AND SO TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, THIS IS HER GARAGE.
SO WE HAVE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL 15FT OF A HEAVILY WOODED BUFFER HERE.
SO THAT WOULD GIVE HER A TOTAL OF 50FT.
AND IN THE SCREENING STANDARDS 20 IS REQUIRED.
BUT 35 IS REQUIRED BY THE NORTHWEST SECTOR.
AND SO WE AGREE TO NOT CLEAR ANYTHING THERE TO LEAVE IT AS IS.
AND ADDITIONALLY, WE MEASURED FROM HER HOME AND SO FROM THE BACK OF HER HOME TO WHERE OUR SCREENING ENDS FOR HER IS 161FT. SO I THINK WE'VE TRIED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION HER HAVING LIVED THERE AND WHAT HER NEEDS ARE AND TO PROVIDE THESE
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ADDITIONAL THESE ADDITIONAL CONCESSIONS LISTENING TO WHAT EVERYONE HAD TO SAY.IN ADDITION, I KNOW SOME OF THE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN NOISE.
AND SO WE'RE ALSO WILLING TO PUT ONTO INTO THE PUD AND ON THE MDP, THE SCREENING STANDARDS, INSTEAD OF BEING 20 B WILL MEET 30 C. WHAT 30 C REQUIRES IS A CONCRETE MASONRY WALL.
AND A CONCRETE WALL AS SPELLED OUT IN THESE STANDARDS, THAT WILL HELP BUFFER NOISE CONSIDERABLY.
AGAIN, THESE ARE PARKED VEHICLES.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT NOISE THEY CREATE, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT ANYWAY.
NOT JUST FOR THE NEIGHBORS, BUT FOR OUR OWN SECURITY ON SITE TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL BETTER.
A LOT OF THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED ARE CLASS C FACILITIES.
AND WHEN BEN COMES UP, HE HAS A COUPLE OF PHOTOS TO SHOW EVERYONE AND EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE AND WHY THERE ARE AVAILABILITY IN SOME PLACES, AND WHY THIS FACILITY IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'VE SEEN DRIVING AROUND.
ADDITIONALLY, LIGHTING WAS BROUGHT UP.
I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUT THAT IN THE PUD AS WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT REGARDLESS.
IN ADDITION, I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S KIND OF IT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE HIDDEN. NOBODY'S GOING TO KNOW WE'RE THERE EXCEPT FOR THAT SMALL OPENING.
WE'RE MITIGATING FOR THE TRAFFIC THE BEST THAT WE CAN.
WE'RE GIVEN ADDITIONAL BUFFERS FOR THE ADJACENT NEIGHBOR.
JEFF CRAMMOND 14775 OLD SAINT AUGUSTINE ROAD.
DURING THE AFTERNOON PEAK HOUR, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE CAR EVERY 15 MINUTES.
NOT EXCESSIVE, NOT WHAT I'M USUALLY WORKING ON, BUT AS FAR AS TRAFFIC GOES, YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DOESN'T REQUIRE EITHER A LEFT OR A RIGHT TURN LANE.
IN THESE, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO INSTALL BOTH.
SO AS FAR AS FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, IT DOESN'T GET MUCH BETTER THAN THIS.
GOOD MORNING. NICE TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
THANKS FOR FOR THIS NICE HEARING THIS MORNING.
MY GOAL HERE THIS MORNING IS TO INTRODUCE AGAIN, MY FIRM.
ONE OF MY MY PARTNERS IS HERE.
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR OUR GOALS HERE FOR THIS PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE A FAMILY FIRM.
WE'VE GOT EXTENSIVE TIES TO THESE COMMUNITIES, TO NORTHEAST FLORIDA.
WE HAVE A FULL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT IS A PROFESSIONAL OPERATION.
WE TAKE PRIDE ONCE WE BUILD SOMETHING, WE WANT TO BUILD IT.
WHEN WE BUILD SOMETHING, WE WANT TO BUILD IT WELL.
AND WHEN WE RUN SOMETHING, WE WANT TO RUN IT WELL.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE INTEND TO DO HERE.
THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT NOISE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
YOU KNOW, MOST MOST OF THE USE OF THESE THINGS IS IS INFREQUENT.
IT'S SOMEBODY WHO TAKES THEIR RV OUT THEY GO, AND THEY MAKE A WEEK LONG VACATION WITH THEIR FAMILY.
THEY THEY COME AND THEY PULL IT OUT.
THEY TAKE THEIR VACATION, AND THEN THEY BRING IT BACK ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON.
YOU KNOW, THESE ARE NOT TRACTOR TRAILERS THAT ARE DRIVING INTO THIS PRODUCT.
THEY DON'T. THEY DON'T BEEP WHEN THEY BACK UP.
THEY DON'T HAVE A HUGE ROARS TO THEIR ENGINES.
THEY'RE JUST JUST NORMAL PICKUP TRUCKS PULLING, PULLING THESE RVS AND BOATS AROUND.
AS YOU GUYS ARE VERY WELL AWARE, A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA ARE HOA RESTRICTED.
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YOU KNOW, SAINT JOHNS COUNTY PRIDES ITSELF ON BEING A PLACE THAT LOVES THE OUTDOORS, LOVES RECREATION, WANTS TO BE A PLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN COME AND DO THAT.MANY PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY THROUGH THEIR HOA RESTRICTIONS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PUT THESE, THESE BOATS AND RVS THAT THEY LOVE SO MUCH IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS, IN THEIR YARDS. AND SO COMMERCIAL FACILITIES LIKE THIS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE TO ENABLE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO USE THE THINGS THAT THEY, THAT THEY LOVE.
AND, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY, I THINK WHAT WE'VE FOUND ANECDOTALLY RUNNING OTHER PROPERTIES LIKE THIS IS THAT IF YOU'RE DRIVING A F150 OR AN F250 WITH AN RV BEHIND IT OR A BOAT BEHIND IT, YOU'RE ACTIVELY AVOIDING SCHOOL.
TIMES, RIGHT? YOU DON'T WANT TO BE THE GUY PULLING THE THE RV OR THE BOAT WHILE A BUNCH OF KIDS ARE, WHILE YOU'RE WAITING TO BE DROPPED OFF.
AND SO WE'VE FOUND ANECDOTALLY THAT THESE THINGS ARE NOT THAT THAT OWNERS OF THESE, OF THESE PRODUCTS WILL ACTIVELY TRY TO SEEK TO AVOID HIGH TRAFFIC TIMES LIKE MORNING DROP OFF AT SCHOOL AND AFTERNOON PICKUP AT SCHOOL.
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THE NEED FOR THIS PRODUCT.
YOU KNOW, WHICH IS AN INTERESTING COMMERCIAL QUESTION AND SOMETHING THAT WE'VE STUDIED EXTENSIVELY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF OUR OUR MONEY UP FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT WE, WE KNOW FROM INDUSTRY EXPERTISE AS WELL AS ATTENDING CONFERENCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IS THAT WHEN PRODUCTS LIKE THIS ARE 90 TO 95% FULL, THEY ARE CONSIDERED FULLY OCCUPIED.
SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON AT ALL TO CALL A FACILITY DOWN THE ROAD AND SAY, HEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY AVAILABILITY? AND SOMEBODY TO SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT 1 OR 2 SPOTS? THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TO BE CONSIDERED COMMERCIALLY REASONABLE AND VERY COMMON.
AS WE AS YOU LOOK ACROSS THE INDUSTRY FOR THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT.
AND A LOT OF THAT DOES COME FROM REVENUE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT IT'S VERY PURPOSEFUL THAT YOU YOU DO THOSE THINGS TO SHOW THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL CALL YOU, YOU CAN PUT THEIR NAME ON A WAIT LIST.
LASTLY, THIS WE ARE BUILDING, AS BETH MENTIONED, A CLASS A FACILITY.
THIS IS YOU KNOW, 35 FOOT BUFFER.
THIS IS CONCRETE MASONRY WALL.
A LOT OF THE OTHER PRODUCT IN THE AREA IS MORE CLASS B, CLASS C, SO IT'S A CHAIN LINK FENCE.
YOU KNOW, MUCH AS A CAR, MULTIPLE CAR DEALERS CAN EXIST.
YOU CAN GO AND BUY A HYUNDAI, YOU CAN GO AND BUY A BMW.
YOU KNOW, SIMILARLY, A CLASS A CAN EXIST NEXT TO A CLASS C FACILITY.
AND ALL OF THEM CAN BE CAN BE VERY SUCCESSFUL.
SO WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE WITH THE COMMERCIAL NEED IN THE AREA.
LASTLY, THAT'S EVIDENCED BY THE FACT THAT THERE ARE EXISTING FACILITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE'S AT LEAST ONE THAT WE KNOW OF IN THE AREA THAT IS ASKING THEIR CURRENT RESIDENCE, RV AND BOAT STORAGE CUSTOMERS TO MOVE THEIR RVS AND BOATS OFF OF THE GRAVEL PRODUCT SO THAT THEY CAN BUILD THE CLASS A PRODUCT.
SO WE KNOW THAT THERE IS COMMERCIAL DEMAND AND COMMERCIAL NEED FOR THIS PRODUCT IN THE AREA, AS EVIDENCED BY THE FACT THAT CURRENT OPERATORS IN THE AREA ARE ADJUSTING THEIR FACILITIES TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THESE, WITH THESE CLASS A FACILITIES.
BETH WILL BE UPSET WITH ME IF I DON'T PUT UP A UP UP THIS PICTURE.
HERE, WE JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THIS DOES NOT LOOK LIKE.
BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL A CLASS C FACILITY.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN YOU CAN SEE THE FENCE.
OUR FACILITY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE PICTURES BETH PUT UP, WHICH IS JUST A JUST THE WOODS.
THAT'S ALL YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE.
IT'S ON THE MDP. IT'S REQUIRED BY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
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SAFER ROUTE.SO I DID WANT TO SAY I DID TAKE THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION AT A SUGGESTION.
AND I DON'T WANT THE NEIGHBORS TO BE MAD BECAUSE THEIR SCHOOL BUS GOT TAKEN AWAY.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT IS NOT ON THE TABLE TODAY.
ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS NUMBER FIVE AND SIX.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES THROUGH THE CHAIR.
VICE CHAIR. JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAVE A DESIGNATED SPEAKER ON THIS MATTER.
MISS SUSAN ROURKE, SHE HAS SOME SIGNATURES.
SHE HAS REQUESTED THAT MR. ROURKE GO FIRST FOR HIS THREE MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT, FOLLOWED BY HER TEN MINUTES.
I LIVE AT 10785 RUSSELL SAMPSON ROAD.
THE JACKSONVILLE PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION.
AND DOCTOR RUSSELL IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THESE TWO PARCELS ON RUSSELL SAMPSON ROAD FROM OPEN RURAL REZ B TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL PUD FOR A PROPOSED MASSIVE RUSSELL SAMPSON RV BOAT AND STORAGE FACILITY.
IT'S LOCATED ABOUT HALFWAY BETWEEN COUNTY ROAD 210 AND SAINT JOHNS PARKWAY, AND ONLY 1.3 MILES OR THREE MINUTES FROM ERECT NATION RV AND BOAT STORAGE FACILITY ON SAINT JOHNS PARKWAY.
CURRENTLY THIS AREA IS ALL RESIDENTIAL NON NO COMMERCIAL.
AND WE FEEL THIS REZONING IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE COMMUNITY REACTION HAS BEEN OVERWHELMING.
SAINT JOHNS COUNTY HAS RECEIVED 98 LETTERS OF WRITTEN OPPOSITION FROM 104 PEOPLE, ALL OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT, AND NO LETTERS SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT.
292 HOMES HAVE DIRECT ACCESS ON RUSSELL SAMPSON ROAD.
THIS EQUATES TO 1 IN 3 HOMES OPPOSES THIS PROJECT.
WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT.
OUR OTHER CONCERNS THIS COULD ENCOURAGE ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED BETWEEN TWO CURVES IN THE ROADWAY.
THEY PROPOSE LARGE RVS AND FIFTH WHEELS, BIG TRUCKS, BOAT TRAILERS ENTERING AND EXITING THE SITE BETWEEN TWO HAZARDOUS TURNS IN THE ROAD. SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY.
THE ROAD IS A SHORTCUT WHERE THERE'S AN EXIT 995.
PEOPLE USE THIS AS A ROUTE TO GET TO NINE B NEIGHBORHOOD.
SCHOOL TRAFFIC IS BUSY WITH BUSSES AND CHILDREN.
THE PROJECT IS NEXT TO AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA.
THE 500 ACRE GOURD ISLAND CONSERVATION AREA.
THIS COULD ADVERSELY AFFECT WILDLIFE AND THE ENVIRONMENT.
WE FEEL THIS IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
THEY HAVE NOT JUSTIFIED A NEED.
IT WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE RESIDENTS, THE PUBLIC AND THE ENVIRONMENT.
OVER 100 PEOPLE HAVE VOICED THEIR OPPOSITION.
ON OCTOBER 3RD, THE PLANNING AND ZONING UNANIMOUSLY DENIED THE REZONING VOTE OF 7 TO 0.
THANK YOU SIR. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM.
SUSAN ROURKE 10785 RUSSELL SAMPSON ROAD.
MY PRESENTATION ADDRESSES COMPATIBILITY CONCERNS.
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THE RED TEXT QUOTES YOU SEE COME DIRECTLY FROM THE PRESENTERS DOCUMENTS.WE DISAGREE WITH MANY OF THESE.
THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT THAT IS STILL BUILDING OUT HOMES.
THE SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY MAP SHOWS A PROPOSAL IN RED NO COMMERCIAL BROOKSIDE PRESERVE.
THE LAST DEVELOPMENT IN BLUE IS 100% BUILT OUT AND OCCUPIED.
THERE IS NOTHING APPROVED BUT UNBUILT NEAR US.
SORRY. ALONG THE ROAD IS A MIX OF OPEN RURAL HOMES AND RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES.
SOUTH COMPLETELY DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND A SCHOOL NORTH.
MORE SINGLE FAMILY AND GOURD ISLAND.
MY PREVIOUS SLIDE SHOWS IT IS NOT.
OURS IS AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE BLUE TEXT QUOTES ARE DIRECTLY FROM.
SAINT JOHNS COUNTY 2025 COMP PLAN.
ALL PLANNED AMENDMENTS SHALL PROVIDE.
QUOTE. JUSTIFICATION FOR THE NEED AND WE SAW NO ANALYSIS OF APPROVED BUT UNBUILT DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS PRESENTED BEFORE THE PCA.
SORRY. ON THE LEFT SIDE IS THE PARCEL IN RED SHOWING TWO DIFFERENT ZONINGS.
NOTICE IT'S BETWEEN TWO CURVES IN THE ROAD.
THE WHITE RURAL SECTION RUNS ALONG THE ROAD.
THE ORANGE BEACH TRIANGLE HAS NO ACCESS TO.
RUSSELL SAMPSON ON THE FAR SIDE.
THE FUTURE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT MAP SHOWS GOURD ISLAND AND A SMALL ORANGE LEFTOVER RISBY TRIANGLE.
THE MAJORITY OF RISBY IS PRESERVED AS GOURD ISLAND CONSERVATION AREA.
THE COMP PLAN STATES THAT RURAL SILVICULTURAL AREAS ARE NOT DEVELOPMENT AREAS.
SAINT JOHNS COUNTY RECOGNIZES THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT BELONG HERE.
AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING ON AUGUST 9TH, WE WERE SHOWN THIS PLAN WITH A WATER POND NEAR THE ROAD.
THE PRESENTER STATES THAT THIS HAS A, QUOTE, MINIMAL IMPACT ON ADJACENT LAND.
11 DAYS LATER, THIS NEW PLAN SHOWED 280 STORAGE UNITS AND A NEW POND LOCATION.
THE PROPERTY OWNER, RASSOOL IS IN RED BRICK HOUSE PROPERTY IN BLUE.
THE PROPERTY OWNER MAY HAVE A, QUOTE MINIMAL IMPACT WITH THE LOVELY WATER POND VIEW.
THE DEVELOPER CANNOT HIDE THE FACT THAT THE BRICK HOUSES ARE JUST A FEW FEET AWAY FROM TWO ROWS, WITH 88 RV RENTAL UNITS. ADJACENT TO THE PARCEL.
HERE'S THE BRICK HOUSE'S RULE FIVE ACRE PROPERTY WITH THEIR HOME BUILT 37 YEARS AGO, AND THEY CANNOT HIDE THE FACT THAT SAINT JOHN'S FOREST HOMES ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PARCEL, NEAR TWO ROWS OF 111 RV RENTAL UNITS.
THIS IS AN UPSCALE GATED COMMUNITY WITH SEVERAL HOMES CURRENTLY SELLING FOR OVER $1 MILLION.
IS THIS WHAT THEY WOULD CHOOSE TO HAVE NEXT DOOR AND RIGHT OUTSIDE THEIR GATE? SAINT 40 SAINT JOHNS FOREST HOMES WITH 700FT OF THE FACILITY.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE'S A 30 FOOT OR 100 FOOT BUFFER, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HIDE THE 24 OVER SEVEN NOISE AND LIGHTS. SINCE THERE IS NO STREET LIGHTS ON OUR ROAD, THIS WILL GLOW LIKE A FOOTBALL STADIUM.
THESE SAINT JOHNS FOREST HOMES HAVE A DIRECT VIEW OF THE FACILITY ALL DAY AND NIGHT, BUT NO MENTION OF THEM IN THE PRESENTATION JUST GIVEN. THE PRESENTER STATES THAT, QUOTE, FACILITIES ALREADY CONSTRUCTED ARE CONSISTENTLY FULL WITH WAIT LISTS AND THERE'S, QUOTE, A LOCAL MARKET DEMAND.
NO ANALYSIS WAS PRESENTED AT THE PGA.
WE FOUND 20 FACILITIES IN OUR AREA WITH AVAILABILITY TEN WITHIN 17 MINUTES OR LESS.
THREE ARE SEVEN OR LESS MINUTES AWAY, ALL WITH IMMEDIATE AVAILABILITY.
THERE IS NO WAIT LIST VERIFIED BY SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO THE OWNERS AND OPERATORS.
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AND BY THE WAY, WEBSITES ARE OFTEN NOT UPDATED OR ACCURATE WHILE TRAVELING AROUND THE COUNTY.WE ALSO FOUND MANY MORE MOM AND POP STORAGE YARDS NOT ON OUR LIST.
THE DEVELOPER CANNOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT RESEARCH PROVES WE DON'T NEED THIS.
THEY CANNOT DISPUTE THAT 100 RESIDENT LETTERS IN OPPOSITION SIGNIFY WE DON'T WANT IT.
NOT ONE SINGLE LETTER SUPPORTED THIS PROJECT.
OUR ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ALREADY FOUND STORAGE OPTIONS.
CLOSEST FACILITY IS RECREATION.
THREE MINUTES AWAY WITH AVAILABILITY.
HERE'S LOOKING SOUTH FROM THE ENTRANCE ON SAINT JOHNS PARKWAY.
WHY BUILD A MASSIVE 280 MORE, ALMOST TWO AND A HALF TIMES LARGER THAN THE ONE THREE MINUTES AWAY? WE HAVE PROVEN THERE'S NO NEED AND THERE IS NO NEW DEVELOPMENT IN OUR AREA.
THE DEVELOPER CANNOT CHANGE THAT FACT.
COMPARE THAT WITH RUSSELL SAMPSON.
THE DIFFERENCE IS QUITE EVIDENT ON THIS TWO LANE ROAD RURAL ROAD TRAFFIC.
OKAY, WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THIS FACILITY WILL ADD IS THE TYPES OF VEHICLES 280 LARGE MOTORHOMES, TRUCKS WITH FIFTH WHEELS, TRAILERS WITH BOATS.
UNLIKE CARS, MOST RVS WILL HAVE AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TASK, MAKING THE REQUIRED EXTRA WIDE RIGHT AND LEFT TURNS WITHOUT GOING INTO THE OPPOSING LANE OF TRAFFIC.
THIS LEFT TURN LANE WILL NOT FIX IT.
THEY'LL BE AT THE ENTRANCE AT A DEAD STOP.
THE. THE PRESENTER'S ROAD VIEW SHOWED THE 40 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT, WHICH REALLY MEANS 45, WITH LIMITED SIGHT BETWEEN THE TWO CURVES AND CARS FLYING AT FULL SPEED IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, IT WILL BE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS WITH RVS EXITING AND BLOCKING THE ENTIRE ROAD.
THE PROJECT IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THEIR EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE DEVELOPER CANNOT CHANGE THOSE DOUBLE YELLOW LINES.
THEY CANNOT CHANGE THE UNSAFE CONDITIONS FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS.
THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THE NEED.
IT IS NOT NEAR APPROVED BUT UNBUILT DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS NOT ALONG INTERSECTIONS OR ON A MAJOR COLLECTOR ROAD.
IT IS NOT MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THE COMP PLAN AND COMPATIBILITY ARE AT ISSUE HERE.
A RURAL RESIDENTIAL MINOR COLLECTOR ROAD THAT CONTAINS ONLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND A RIDING HORSE SIGN IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, MAKES THIS PROPOSED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT NOT COMPATIBLE WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
I LIVE AT 2140 QUARTER HORSE CIRCLE, NORTH SAINT JOHNS, FLORIDA.
I'VE LIVED OUT THERE SINCE 1989.
RUSSELL SAMPSON WAS A DIRT ROAD.
WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE AND A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS A WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.
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I MEAN, EVERYBODY THAT COMES OUT THERE.FIRST OF ALL, THEY THINK WE HAVE MONEY BECAUSE NOW THAT PROPERTY IS WORTH A LOT.
BUT EVERYBODY THAT COMES OUT THERE JUST LOVES IT.
SO I WAS AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING, AND SUSAN PROVIDED THE LIST OF ALL THE RV FACILITIES AVAILABLE.
SO I TOOK THE TIME YESTERDAY TO CALL BECAUSE I KNOW THE COMPUTER IS NOT ACCURATE AND ALL THAT.
I SPOKE WITH KAREN AT REC NATION.
AND SHE SAID, PAM, IT WOULD BE NO PROBLEM GETTING YOU A SITE.
ONE OF THOSE FACILITIES, WHICH IS WHERE 210 COMES IN TO OUR ALTERNATE.
SO ALL THOSE I DON'T I DON'T HAVE AN ACCURATE FIGURE.
I WOULD ASSUME IT'S OVER 100 HAVE BEEN MOVED TO OTHER FACILITIES.
WE'RE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN IT.
WE RAISED HORSES, WE RAISED COWS.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD ALL THAT AND AND WE'VE SEEN DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN, BUT SMART DEVELOPMENT AND THIS IS JUST SO OUT OF CHARACTER AND IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT'S RIGHT THERE.
MY PROPERTY BACKS UP TO GOURD ISLAND.
I'M VERY LUCKY. I HAVE DEER RIGHT OUT MY BEDROOM WINDOW IN THE MORNING, YOU KNOW.
AND SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU DO NOT APPROVE THIS.
IT DOES NOT GO WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
GOOD MORNING. BRIAN EISENMENGER, 21, 30 QUARTER CIRCLE NORTH, SAINT JOHNS, FLORIDA.
WE I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 20 YEARS.
MY WIFE HAS LIVED THERE FOR 25 YEARS, AND WE HAVE HORSES.
AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN MENTION THAT WE'RE ALL ON, WELL WATER.
THE ANIMALS AND OUR DRINKING WATER AND THE HORSES DRINKING WATER.
I AM STRONGLY AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL.
I HAVE LIVED ON RUSSELL SAMPSON ROAD FOR 19 YEARS.
WE'VE RAISED OUR FAMILY THERE.
I KNOW OF NO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS ON RUSSELL.
SAMPSON ROAD. THERE ARE ONLY HOMES, NEIGHBORHOODS AND A SCHOOL.
THIS SITE BACKS UP TO GOURD ISLAND CONSERVATION AREA, A 500 ACRE WILDLIFE REFUGE.
GOURD ISLAND SERVES AS A SANCTUARY FOR PLANTS AND ANIMALS.
WILDLIFE IN THAT AREA INCLUDE GOPHER TORTOISE, DEER, ALLIGATOR, AND MANY BIRD SPECIES.
IT ALSO PROVIDES A SIGNIFICANT WATER RESOURCE PROTECTION FOR DURBAN AND SAMPSON CREEKS.
GOPHER TORTOISE AND AN ALLIGATOR ON OUR PROPERTY JUST ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY.
IT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY TO NATURE AND PROTECT THE CONSERVATION AREA.
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS SHALL UTILIZE THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA AS APPLICABLE IN CONSIDERATION OF REZONING REQUEST A REZONING REQUEST SHALL NOT BE APPROVED IF THE PROPOSED PERMITTED USES ARE DETERMINED TO HAVE UNREASONABLE INCOMPATIBILITY.
INCOMPATIBLE IMPACT ON THE CONTIGUOUS SURROUNDING AREA IN RESPECT TO SENSORY CHARACTER CHARACTERISTICS SUCH AS ODOR, NOISE, VIBRATION AND LIGHTING, AS WELL AS NON SENSORY CHARACTERISTICS SUCH AS POLLUTION AND TRAFFIC FLOW.
NONTRADITIONAL WORK TIMES VARY.
IN THE EARLY IN THE MORNING AND THE EVENING, AND IN THE EVENING.
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ESPECIALLY THOSE FOR WATERCRAFT, I'M SURE.LOADING AND UNLOADING ACTIVITIES WILL GENERATE QUITE A NOISE DISTURBANCE.
NOT TO MENTION THE LARGE TRUCKS REQUIRED TO HAUL EVERYTHING IN AND OUT.
THERE ARE NO COUNTY STREET LIGHTS ON RUSSELL SAMPSON ROAD.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS DARK FROM DUSK TILL DAWN.
YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE STARS AT NIGHT.
WASHING DIRT, OIL OR SALT WATER IN A SEPTIC OR GROUND AND THERE'S POSSIBLE WELL WATER USE.
THIS PROPOSAL COMPLETELY INCOMPATIBLE WITH THIS AREA.
RUSSELL SAMPSON ROAD HAS A GREAT HISTORY.
THE MICKLER, PAPPY AND WILSON FAMILIES HAVE LIVED HERE CONTINUOUSLY SINCE THE 1800S.
PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE THE QUALITY OF OUR LIFE.
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JAMES BRICKHOUSE, 10570 RUSSELL SAMPSON ROAD.
THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE BACKING UP TO MY PARENTS, AND ONE DAY, HOPEFULLY, MY PROPERTY.
WE MOVED TO RUSSELL SAMPSON ROAD WHEN I WAS IN FIRST GRADE.
IT'S BEEN THE BEST KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD TO GROW UP IN.
MY FRIENDS AND I HAD BONFIRES AFTER OUR FOOTBALL GAMES.
MY BROTHER AND I WOULD HAVE SHOOTING TARGET PRACTICE.
MY DAD EVEN TAUGHT ME HOW TO DRIVE THERE.
THE REQUEST TO REZONE THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT FIT THE PLACE WHERE I CALL HOME.
WE HAVE A TRAILER. I DRIVE ABOUT ONCE OR TWICE A MONTH.
I TAKE UP 2 TO 3 LANES OF RUSSELL SAMPSON TO PULL INTO THE DRIVEWAY.
WE LUCKILY DO HAVE A TURNING LANE ADJACENT FROM OUR DRIVEWAY THAT ALLOWS US TO PULL IN.
I DO TRY TO AVOID SCHOOL TIME, BUT HONESTLY, IT'S A 9 TO 9 THING.
IF YOU GO IN AT NINE IN THE MORNING, THERE'S GOING TO BE TRAFFIC.
I ATTENDED THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.
DOCTOR RUSSELL STATED TWICE THAT HE IS AN ADVOCATE FOR NEIGHBORS.
THIS PROJECT GIVES HIM A NICE VIEWPOINT OF A POND.
I FAIL TO SEE WHAT IT OFFERS NEIGHBORS ADJACENT AND ACROSS FROM IT.
AT THE MEETING, THERE WERE QUITE A FEW NEIGHBORS THAT SPOKE.
EXCUSE ME AGAINST THIS REQUEST.
I DIDN'T SEE ANY OF MY NEIGHBORS THERE FOR IT.
AS YOU KNOW, THE VOTE WAS UNANIMOUS.
DENIAL. I STAND HERE AGAIN AND ASK YOU TO PLEASE VOTE UNANIMOUSLY.
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MARK DIMOND.
I LIVE AT 2145 QUARTER HORSE CIRCLE NORTH.
ON THE MAPS THAT YOU'VE SEEN PREVIOUSLY, WHERE THE THE SITE IN QUESTION IS PROPOSED.
THE BRICK HOUSES GO ARE DUE EAST.
THEN. RUSSELL I'M THE NEXT GUY, SO I'M ABOUT 300 YARDS DUE EAST OF THE PROPOSED FACILITY.
I ASK THAT YOU DENY THE REQUEST TO PUT AN RV AND BOAT STORAGE FACILITY HERE.
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING MY MULTIPLE NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID.
I'M GOING TO ADD A FEW THOUGHTS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE OF HOW IT WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT ME.
MY PROPERTY IS WORTH MORE THAN $1 MILLION.
YOU PUT A BOAT AND RV STORAGE FACILITY 300 YARDS FROM MY HOME.
IT'S GOING TO DIMINISH THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY.
PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE ABOUT HOW MUCH IT WOULD DIMINISH THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY.
IS IT 100,000? IS IT 300,000? I DOUBT IT'S 300,000, BUT I'M PRETTY COMFORTABLE.
DIMINISHING THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN IN MY FAMILY SINCE 1990.
THERE'S A LIGHT POLLUTION ISSUE.
THERE'S A NOISE POLLUTION ISSUE.
I'M GOING TO FOCUS FOR A SECOND ON THE NOISE.
MY VIEW OF THE NOISE POLLUTION ISSUE.
I'VE HEARD THERE'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 267 AND 288 PROPOSED SITES WITHIN THIS FACILITY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER IS, BUT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT 280.
SO LET'S LET'S START WITH 280.
LET'S ASSUME THAT OF THOSE 280, THAT WHEN IT'S FULLY FILLED OUT, THAT 80 OF THEM ARE FOR RVS AND FOR LARGE BOATS, LEAVING ABOUT 200 IS MY POINT.
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FISH. SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO USE THEIR BOAT ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR.SOME ARE GOING TO USE THEM 3 OR 4 TIMES A WEEK.
LET'S ASSUME THAT EACH OF THOSE 200 SMALL BOATS IS USED ONCE A MONTH.
OF THOSE 2400 EVENTS, LET'S SAY 75% OF THEM ARE BETWEEN 4 AND 6:00 IN THE MORNING.
AND I THINK THAT'S CONSERVATIVE.
OF THOSE 1800 EVENTS, 100% OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE PICKUP TRUCKS.
IF THOSE PICKUP TRUCKS, 10 TO 20% OF THEM ARE GOING TO HAVE LOUD MUFFLERS, MUFFLERS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO BE SO LOUD THAT YOU LOOK AT THEIR TRUCK, LET'S SAY IT'S ONLY 10% OF THE 1800.
THAT MEANS 180 TRIPS A YEAR IN AND 180 TRIPS OUT OF THAT FACILITY.
AND I'VE GOT 200FT ON RUSSELL SAMPSON.
THIS IS NOT A A COMPATIBLE FACILITY FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? GOOD MORNING, CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATES.
WHAT ARE THE OPERATING HOURS OF THIS.
SO IF IT IS 24 OVER SEVEN, THEN, YEAH.
YOU WILL HEAR THE SOUNDS IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS TO GET OUT TO OUT TO TO DO FISHING MOSTLY.
BUT IF A VEHICLE, A TRUCK IS TRYING TO PULL OUT A BOAT ONTO THAT LITTLE ROAD, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF POWER ACCESS TO.
AND, YEAH, YOU WILL HEAR THAT VEHICLE MOVING BECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO HEAR IT.
WILL THERE BE A WASH AREA FOR THAT, FOR THIS WASH AREA FOR A CLEAN DOWN.
ALL RIGHT. IF THEY NEED TO BE WILL THAT BE ALSO ACCESSIBLE FOR CONTAMINATED AREAS? BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BREAK HAVE A LEAK, AND THEY'LL NEED TO CLEAN IT UP.
RIGHT? ALSO, AS HE SPOKE, ONE WAY TO KEEP THE CRIME LEVEL DOWN AT NIGHT IS LIGHT.
WE'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE TYPE OF LIGHT WOULD BE.
AND THE LUMINANT VALUE OF THOSE LIGHTS.
AND IF THEY'RE BEYOND 24 OVER SEVEN OR JUST AT NIGHTTIME.
SO YOU'LL HAVE THAT AMBIENT GLOW IN THE EVENING, THROUGH THE NIGHT, THROUGH THE EARLY MORNING HOURS, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PROTECT AND PEOPLE ARE PAYING TO KEEP THEIR STUFF FROM BEING VANDALIZED OR STOLEN, WHICH IT WILL HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT.
SO WHAT'S THE AMBIENT RATING OF THE LIGHTS AND HOW MUCH WILL BE OR.
EXCUSE ME, HOW HIGH WILL THE LIGHTS BE? OKAY. AND WHAT THIS WHAT THIS TYPE OF ISSUE IS FROM, OF GETTING MORE AND MORE STORAGE IS OBVIOUSLY THE CONCEPT OF SURE, WE'LL BUILD MORE AND MORE HOUSES AND NOW WE NEED MORE AND MORE STORAGE.
NOW WE NEED MORE AND MORE PEOPLE TO MOVE DOWN HERE.
AND IT'S JUST THAT THAT NON-ENDING WILL OF MORE DEVELOPING.
AND NOW THEY MOVE DOWN AND THERE'S MORE STORAGE AND MORE STORAGE AND MORE STORAGE.
SO SAINT JOHNS COUNTY IS PROBABLY THE TOP RATED STORAGE FACILITY COUNTY IN THE STATE OR WILL BE SO THAT'S SOME OF THE.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? HOW ARE YOU DOING? I'M FREDDIE ROWLAND.
I LIVE AT 104 TWO FIVE RUSSELL SAMPSON ROAD.
I'VE LIVED THERE FOR APPROXIMATELY 30 YEARS AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF IMPACT.
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ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS, IRONICALLY, LAST TIME I WAS HERE IN FRONT OF COMMISSIONERS WAS MANY YEARS AGO WHEN THE DEVELOPERS WERE JOCKEYING TO PUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THERE, WHICH WHICH THEY DID.I ARGUED THE POINT OF THE IMPACT OF THE TRAFFIC.
THEY SAID, AND I QUOTE, IT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 50 CARS PER DAY WOULD IMPACT US THERE.
I THINK I HEARD TODAY THAT OUR IMPACT ON THAT ROAD NOW IS OVER 7000 CARS A DAY.
I'M ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE FROM QUARTER HORSE ACROSS FROM WHERE THIS CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE.
JUST FROM JUST FROM THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC AT LIBERTY PINES.
I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC IMPACT THIS WOULD BE.
I'M ALSO. WE HAVE TRAILERS, WE HAVE BOATS, AND AND I KEEP MY BOATS OVER AT MY SON'S HOUSE DOWN IN SAINT AUGUSTINE BECAUSE IT'S JUST HARD TO GET OUT OF OUR PROPERTY ONTO THAT ROAD ANYMORE.
THE ONLY OTHER CONCERN I WOULD HAVE.
AND AND I'M KIND OF SURPRISED THIS.
I'M. I KNOW THAT PROPERTY PROBABLY BETTER THAN ANYBODY HERE TODAY.
AND THAT THE THE AREA THEY'RE LOOKING TO BUILD ON IS A SANDHILL.
TURKEY. TURKEY OAKS THERE AND HAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST THE FLORIDA GOPHER TURTLE.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW THEY COULD COME IN ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT THE ONLY PLACE I'M AN OUTDOORSMAN, IT'S THE ONLY PLACE I'VE EVER SEEN BABY GOPHER TURTLES, YOU KNOW, IS ON THAT LITTLE SANDHILL THERE.
AND FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND KIND OF MOW THAT DOWN JUST KIND OF SURPRISES ME.
THE COMMERCIAL IMPACT ON RUSSELL SAMPSON IN A RURAL AREA LIKE WE WERE OR USED TO BE I THINK WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL.
AND SO I HOPE YOU CONSIDER THAT AS YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO HERE.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. GOOD MORNING.
HOW Y'ALL DOING AT SLAVE INBOX 308 FOR JFK'S FAVORITE CONSERVATIVE BRITISH POLITICIAN WAS LORD FALKLAND, WHO SAID WHEN IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO CHANGE, IT IS NECESSARY NOT TO CHANGE.
WHEN IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO CHANGE, IT IS NECESSARY NOT TO CHANGE.
YOU'VE JUST HEARD UNREBUTTED TESTIMONY FROM NINE FOLKS FROM THIS AREA.
THIS IS A DENIAL, AND YOU SHOULD AFFIRM THE PCA WHICH VOTED UNANIMOUSLY AGAINST THIS TURKEY.
THE IDEA OF PLANNING THIS PROPOSAL TOTALLY CONFOUNDS THE IDEA OF PLANNING.
AND LET ME TELL YOU, I ONCE LIVED IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON.
YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PROPOSE ZONING AND PLANNING IN HOUSTON, TEXAS, YOU'RE SMILING.
AND YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.
THEY CALL YOU A COMMUNIST IN HOUSTON.
IF YOU SAY YOU WANT ZONING, WE WANT ZONING HERE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.
AND WE WANT PLANNING AND WE WANT IT DONE RIGHT.
I WANT TO KNOW FROM THIS DAY FORWARD, I WANT TO ASK EVERY SINGLE APPLICANT WHETHER OR NOT THEY CONSULTED WITH THE ANASTASIA MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY ABOUT THE EFFECT OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROLIFERATION OF PESTIFEROUS MOSQUITOES AND UPON THE PUBLIC HEALTH, WHICH IS THREATENED BY PESTIFEROUS MOSQUITOES.
MY DAD WAS BITTEN BY A MOSQUITO IN SICILY IN 1943.
AS A PARATROOPER WITH THE 82ND AIRBORNE, HE GOT MALARIA.
WHAT ARE WE DOING TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY AND THIS COMMUNITY? WHEN WE LET ANY GRIFTER DEVELOPER COME IN HERE AND SAY, OH, GIVE ME, GIVE ME, GIVE ME.
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MY NAME IS JIMMY, I GOT IT.IT'S A TWO MILE SEGMENT OF ROAD.
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO RUIN THAT ROAD? THERE'S NO COMMERCIAL IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND AS MAMA JOE SAID IN THE GRAPES OF WRATH, WE'RE THE PEOPLE AND WE KEEP ON COMING.
AND I AM SO IMPRESSED THAT PEOPLE KEEP ON COMING TO OUR MEETINGS HERE.
AND THEY'RE WELL ORGANIZED AND THEY'RE ARTICULATE, AND THEY DO DATA AND THEY PROVE THEIR CASE.
AND THEY'VE ELECTED SOME NEW COMMISSIONERS.
ANYWAY, I AM PROUD OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE, AND I HOPE YOU AFFIRM YOUR PCA UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? BJ WEST, CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.
I'D BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHO SAID THERE'S NO SCHOOL BUS IF THEY PUT IN A SIDEWALK.
I'D LIKE TO REALLY KNOW THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO TALK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.
THE OTHER THING IS JUST REPEATING WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID.
100 PEOPLE TOLD YOU WHAT THEY THOUGHT.
AND I WANT TO SAY TO MISS ROURKE, YOU NEED TO BE HIRED BY THE COUNTY.
I MEAN, LET'S GET RIGHT TO THE FACTS HERE, FOLKS.
SIX. SEVEN. EIGHT. COULDN'T MAKE IT ANY PLAINER.
AND ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE CAME UP AND SUPPORTED IT.
IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS, AND THEIR INFORMATION IS SUBSTANTIAL.
THEY LIVE THERE. THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
THEY'RE NOT A LAWYER, WHICH DOESN'T ALWAYS KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND I DO THANK THEM FOR COMING IN AND SPEAKING SUPPORT THE DENIAL OF THE VISA.
I KNOW WE GET IT MIXED UP WITH THE PCB, BUT IT'S THE PCA AGENCY, AND I KNOW NO ONE'S GOING TO LIKE THIS, BUT I GOT 136 TO SAY IT, AND I'M GOING TO SAY IT OUT LOUD.
AND IT'S NOT JUST THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR RVS AND BOATS.
WE NEED TO MAKE INFORMATION AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO MOVE TO SAINT JOHNS COUNTY OR THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, OR THE BEACH.
IT FLOODS. THAT'S NOT THE POINT TODAY.
THE REAL POINT IS WE HAVE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC.
YOU CANNOT BRING YOUR BOAT AND RV.
SO LET'S GET THAT OUT SOMEWHERE IN THE MEDIA.
MAYBE THERE'S A MEDIA LISTENING TO THIS MEETING.
LEAVE THEM IN GEORGIA AND COME ON DOWN.
AND IT'S A JOKE, BUT REALLY AND TRULY, IT'S DEVELOPMENT IN THE WRONG PLACE.
AND THESE PEOPLE HAVE MADE IT VERY CLEAR WHY IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE.
SO WE NEED A50 VOTE ON THIS ONE TO DENY IT.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY. THAT TAKES US BACK TO MISS BREEDING.
ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T WANT TO I DIDN'T HAVE THE INTENTION TO TALK ABOUT MUCH, BUT THERE WERE A COUPLE OF COMMANDS, ACTUALLY, THAT MADE ME TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT TODAY.
SO ONE OF THE THING IS THAT I HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, NO ONE IS SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT.
YES. I'M HERE, I'M SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT, AND THIS PROJECT IS JUST BEHIND MY HOUSE.
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AND SOMEONE ALSO SAID THAT I LAST TIME I MENTIONED THAT I'M THE ADVOCATE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.YES, I AM THE ADVOCATE BECAUSE I AM THE ONLY PERSON OVER THERE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO SELL THE HOUSE.
EVERYONE ELSE IS BEGGING THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS TO SELL THEIR HOUSES DAY AND NIGHT, BECAUSE EVERY DEVELOPER THEY TALK ABOUT, THEY COME TO ME AND ASK ME, DOC, IF YOU SELL THE PROPERTY, THEN WE WILL BUY THEIR PROPERTIES BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BIG CHUNK OF LAND.
SO ONE OF THE NEIGHBOR MENTIONED SHE LIKES THE DEER COMING NEXT TO HER WINDOW.
WHY IS SHE SELLING THE HOUSE? SHE IS ASKING SOME LAND FROM ME TO ATTRACT THE OTHER DEVELOPERS SO THAT THEY COULD BUY IT.
AND I'M LEAVING THERE, AND I WANT TO LIVE THERE.
MY CHILDREN, THEY GO TO THE SAME SCHOOL.
OTHERWISE I AM SUCCESSFUL PHYSICIAN, SO I AM NOT DOING THE BUSINESS THERE.
I LIKE THAT IF SOMEONE HAS THE OPPOSITION, YES, I WILL BE MORE THAN BE WILLING TO ACTUALLY TO LISTEN AND TO WORK ON THAT.
ONCE WE TALK ABOUT THE OPPOSITION, IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE OPPOSING SOMETHING.
THE IMPORTANT THING IS, IS THERE ANY VALID REASON TO OPPOSE SOMETHING THAT REALLY HAS THE VALUE? SO I THINK I ADDRESSED THESE THINGS WHICH CAME TO MY MIND.
IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT I'M BEING HEARD.
SO LET ME PUT THE WEBSITE UP HERE.
KEEP IT LOW, KEEP THE WAVELENGTHS LONG, ITS PARTICULAR COLORS KEEP IT SHIELDED.
AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE CERTIFIED FIXTURES FOR PROPERTY OWNERS, DEVELOPERS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.
SO THEY WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE FIXTURES ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
THESE ARE THE FIXTURES YOU NOTICE.
IT'S BECAUSE THE WAVELENGTHS ARE DIFFERENT.
SO THAT WE'RE NOT PRODUCING A TON OF LIGHT THAT AFFECTS THE WILDLIFE.
I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M INVOLVED WITH MULTIPLE MITIGATION BANKS.
I HAVE A MITIGATION BANKING CONFERENCE THIS WEEK.
IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THE WETLANDS WERE PART OF THE GOURD ISLAND.
THIS IS OUR PROPERTY BOUNDARY.
IT IS THE INTENTION WITH THE LITTLE BIT OF THE 0.49 ACRES THAT WE'RE IMPACTING FOR THIS POND.
ALL OF THIS LAND WILL BE PUT UNDER CONSERVATION AND PERPETUITY.
SO WE'RE NOT DESTROYING THE ENVIRONMENT.
WE'RE PUTTING A CONSERVATION EASEMENT OVER THIS SO THAT IN PERPETUITY IT'S PROTECTED FOREVER.
IT JUST IT BOTHERS ME WHEN PEOPLE ACCUSE ME OF DESTROYING THE ENVIRONMENT OR DOING OTHER THINGS.
WE ARE AWARE THERE ARE GOPHER TORTOISES.
IT'S PART OF THE PUD APPLICATION.
IT ALSO SAYS IN THE PUD, I THINK THERE'S 2 OR 3 LIVE BURROWS THAT THEY'LL FISH AND WILDLIFE WILL GRANT US PERMITS, AND THEY WILL BE MOVED AT A CONSIDERABLE COST, BUT WE WILL BE PROTECTING THEM.
WE'RE NOT IGNORING THE FACT THAT THEY'RE THERE.
ALL OF THIS IS PART OF THE PUD PROCESS.
AND ALL OF THESE REPORTS ARE WITH COUNTY STAFF.
WE'RE FOLLOWING EVERYTHING AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC GOES.
PREVIOUSLY THEY HAD ASKED, LIKE AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, WOULD WE DO A LEFT TURN LANE? NOW WE DO A LEFT TURN LANE AND IT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH.
YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME WE MEET THE GOALPOST.
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THEY MOVE THE GOALPOST.AND SO IT'S A MATTER OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO? WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN.
THE ENHANCED BUFFERS THAT WE HAVE HERE.
THESE BUFFERS YOU SAW FROM THE PHOTOGRAPHS, WHAT EXISTS TODAY.
YOU SEE CLEARLY OVER THE AERIAL THAT THERE WILL BE ZERO VISIBILITY FOR THIS FACILITY.
AND IN ADDITION, BECAUSE WE DO FEEL THAT BRICKHOUSE IS A CONTIGUOUS OWNER, THAT WE SHOULD DO MORE.
SO WE DID. NOW IT'S 50FT OF COMPLETELY.
AND SO SHE CAN SAY THAT SHE BACKS UP TO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS.
BUT THESE UNITS, SHE WILL HAVE ZERO VISIBILITY TO THEM AS FAR AS THE NOISE GOES.
I JUST I DON'T SEE THAT BEHAVIOR ON A REGULAR BASIS.
BUT I GET THAT'S WHAT FEAR DOES.
AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO SHOW THE DIFFERENCE IN THE FACILITIES.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE VERY DIFFERENT FACILITIES, JUST LIKE HOMES.
YOU CAN HAVE A STARTER HOME OR YOU CAN LIVE IN A MANSION.
SO THAT CLEARLY STATES THAT THERE IS A FUTURE WIDENING TO BE DONE HERE.
BUT THE COUNTY WOULDN'T BE ASKING FOR THAT RIGHT OF WAY TO BE SET ASIDE.
AGAIN, WE'VE OFFERED THE LEFT TURN LANE.
YOU KNOW, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE DOUBLE LANES AND YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE ON A STRAIGHTAWAY.
SO GRANTED, THERE ARE CURVES ON EITHER SIDE.
WE'RE ACCOMMODATING EVERY POSSIBILITY.
WE HAVE A 75 FOOT THROAT HERE.
THEY ARE NOT BLOCKING TRAFFIC.
THEY PUNCH THEIR KEYPAD AND THEY GO IN.
THIS IS NOT A 24 HOUR WALMART.
I WOULD GET THE 24 HOUR CONCERNS.
IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A HIGH TRAFFIC.
THIS IS SUCH A LOW TRAFFIC, IT'S EQUAL TO FOUR HOMES BEING BUILT HERE.
SO WE HAVE LITERALLY GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY WAIVERS.
WE'RE NOT ONLY MEETING, BUT EXCEEDING THE CRITERIA THAT IS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND SO WE'RE NOT THE HORRIBLE MONSTER THAT WE'RE BEING MADE OUT TO BE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
PEOPLE PARK THEIR RV'S IN THEIR YARDS.
OKAY, WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS, DISCUSSION.
AND WE WILL TAKE UP THE REMAINING AGENDA ITEMS JUST FOR FOR EVERYONE'S INFORMATION.
OKAY. WELL. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, MR. D'SOUZA, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU PERTAINING TO TRAFFIC.
I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T BRIEF YOU ABOUT THIS.
I DIDN'T DO MY JOB AS A COMMISSIONER, WHICH IS TO TELL MR. D'SOUZA I'M GOING TO ASK THIS QUESTION, SO I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE.
BUT THE CURRENT CAPACITY OF THE ROAD IS OPERATING AT 71.1%.
BUT THERE'S 98.8% BASED ON COMMITTED PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC.
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DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT COMMITTED TRAFFIC IS COMING FROM? YES, SIR. DICK DE SOUSA, YOUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR GROWTH MANAGEMENT.SO IT IS ON THE FAR SIDE OF 210 ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 95.
THAT IS WHERE THE BULK OF THOSE TRIPS ARE COMING FROM.
YES, SIR. AS THAT CONTINUES TO BUILD OUT, THAT'S GOING TO ADD CAPACITY TO THIS ROADWAY.
SO IT WOULD BE EATING INTO THOSE VESTED TRIPS.
SO THOSE THAT THOSE, THOSE GHOST TRIPS ARE COMING FROM THAT TWIN CREEKS DRY.
AT LEAST THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE MODELING SAID WHEN THE TWIN CREEKS PROJECT WAS APPROVED.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I WAS JUST JUST WANTED TO SATISFY THAT CURIOSITY.
TRAFFIC IS NOT A MAJOR CONCERN, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE MR..
AS MR. KRAMER SAID, THIS DOES NOT PRODUCE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
IT'S JUST ABOUT THE KIND OF TRAFFIC.
MISS ROURKE, COULD I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION? BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING NOT JUST YOU, BUT SEVERAL OF YOUR NEIGHBORS MENTIONED.
YOU'RE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. IT'S JUST ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING HERE.
WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO SEE? GO ON TO RUSSELL SAMPSON ROAD ON THIS PARCEL.
WE WOULD WELCOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WHICH ARE CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING HOMES THAT ARE IN THE AREA. THIS IS THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL ROAD.
THIS IS NOTHING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COMMERCIAL.
SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WOULD FIT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP.
HERE WE'RE INVITING 280 PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO COME IN AND USE THIS ROAD.
THAT LEFT TURN LANE DOESN'T MATTER.
IT WON'T HELP PEOPLE COMING OUT AND TRYING TO TURN RIGHT OR LEFT.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, JUST A REALLY QUICK STORY AND I'M SORRY TO TAKE YOUR TIME, BUT MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT OF THE WEST CURVE, AND WE HAVE TROUBLE EVEN PULLING OUR POP UP OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAY WHEN WE GO CAMPING, BECAUSE THERE'S LIMITED SIGHT AND THAT DOUBLE LINED YELLOW DOUBLE LINED ACROSS THAT ROAD.
THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE FACILITY IS THERE FOR A REASON.
THIS IS SO DANGEROUS TO HAVE CARS COMING BY 45, MAYBE EVEN FASTER.
AND THEY DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S A SHORTCUT AND YOU GOT TO SAVE TIME.
RIGHT. OKAY. IT'S THE MENTALITY.
SO THEY'RE COMING AT THAT SPEED.
AND TO DEAL WITH SOMETHING RIGHT IN THEIR FACE AS THEY ROUND THAT CURVE.
AND A AND AN RV TRYING TO MANEUVER OUT OF THERE AND MAKE THAT TURN.
AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ACCELERATE VERY QUICKLY OUT OF THAT TURN.
THEY'RE GOING TO SLOWLY START GOING.
AND YOU CAN PICTURE IT AND YOU CAN SEE IT.
OKAY. THANK YOU. SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
WELL, I JUST I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT MR. RASOOL OR DOCTOR RASOOL MADE AN INVESTMENT HERE AND HE'S.
HE'S MADE AN INVESTMENT. HE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO RECOUP MONEY ON THAT INVESTMENT.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.
IT'S FUNNY YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION.
I THINK I ASKED MISS ROURKE THE EXACT SAME QUESTION IN OUR MEETING THAT WE HAD HERE IN THE BUILDING.
I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED IN MY QUASI JUDICIAL THAT I HAVE DONE A SITE VISIT TO THIS SITE PROBABLY THOUSANDS OF TIMES IN MY LIFETIME, FROM BACK WHEN RUSSELL SAMPSON WAS A DIRT ROAD TO WITNESSING ALL OF THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC, BECAUSE MY KIDS ATTENDED LPA FOR TEN YEARS.
SO I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THIS STREET LOOKS LIKE.
THE CHARACTER OF THIS STREET AND AND THERE IS NO COMMERCIAL.
AND SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE TO THIS AREA, TO THIS, TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO APPROVE THIS. AND SO I'LL BE MOTIONING OR NOT MOTIONING BUT MOVING TO DENY VOTING TO DENY THIS PROJECT.
SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. COMMISSIONER DEAN.
YEAH. I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER COMMENTS.
SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT 2020 408.
SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
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PLEASE VOTE.THANK YOU. DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE ON ITEM SIX? NO, YOU DO NOT. I DIDN'T THINK SO.
I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN.
NOW WE'LL GO INTO 30 MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT, AFTER WHICH WE'LL BREAK FOR LUNCH.
[Public Comment is Time Certain from 11:30 AM - 12:00 PM, or at the conclusion of the Regular Agenda, whichever occurs first]
ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS WILL HAVE THEIR OWN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
ANY PERSON WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD SHOULD COME TO THE PODIUM.
STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS.
THANK YOU. PLEASE COME FORWARD.
KIM SCHWERMER, 52 WHATELY LANE.
IT WAS 126 DAYS AGO THAT WE STARTED GETTING FINED, AND IT WAS 151 DAYS AGO THAT THE BOC AND MR. KOMANDO ASSURED OTHER VIOLATORS THEY HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
OUR FINES ARE $6,300 AS OF TODAY.
WHY ARE WE BEING SELECTIVELY ENFORCED AND FINED? MANY CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ALSO ISSUED AN ADDITIONAL NOTICE TO THE OTHER HOMEOWNERS FOR THEIR DRIVEWAYS TO BE IN VIOLATION, BUT AREN'T PURSUING THAT EITHER.
THE COUNTY DOES NOT CARE ABOUT ALL OF THE PAVER PATHS THAT RUN ALONG ONE SIDE, BOTH SIDES, ENTIRE FRONT OR BACKYARDS FILLED WITH PAVERS, DRIVEWAYS, AND VIOLATION ISR RATIOS FILLED PULL PERMITS IN RELATION TO PAVERS OR TURF.
BUT THEY DO CARE ABOUT THE SWARMERS SINGLE PATHWAY.
SHE SAID SHE HAD HEARD THAT OUR HOUSE WAS FOR SALE.
SHE TOLD ME IF WE SOLD, THIS WOULD BE ALL OVER WITH, WHICH SEEMS UNLIKELY.
WE ARE NOT REMOVING OUR PATH WHILE OTHERS ARE NOT, OR PUTTING UP A FENCE TO HIDE IT.
OUR PATH WILL REMAIN UNTIL THE COUNTY FIGURES OUT A FAIR SOLUTION FOR ALL OF US.
COUNTY ATTORNEYS AND COUNTY DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE.
THE LISA FERGUSON, ALONG WITH MR. POTTER, AGGRESSIVELY PURSUED US TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE AND BE FINED, AND DID NOT WANT TO ADDRESS THE MANY VIOLATIONS ALL OVER THE COUNTY.
MR. COMMANDO HAS INSTRUCTED THE COUNTY TO NOT TAKE ACTION AGAINST OTHER VIOLATORS, AND THAT APPLIES TO OTHER HOMEOWNERS THAT WERE REPORTED BY THEIR NEIGHBOR AND OTHERS THAT WERE IN THE PROCESS OF THEIR NON ZONING APPLICATION.
WHAT DO THESE HOMEOWNERS THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN? AND WHAT IS THE COUNTY TELLING THOSE OR NEW HOMEOWNERS TODAY IF THEY CALL IN? THERE IS NO WAY THEY ALL KNEW ABOUT BEING PUT IN MORATORIUM WITHOUT THE COUNTY INFORMING THEM AND GIVING THEM INSTRUCTION.
AND THEY EVEN STRESS THAT TO HOMEOWNERS AS AN AID.
38 PETER ISLAND DRIVE RECEIVED A VIOLATION NOTICE ON FOUR 1924 FOR PAVERS ON THEIR RIGHT SIDE AND FOR THE DRIVEWAY BEING WIDER THAN 18FT AT THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE PROPERTY OWNED PROPERTY OWNER ADVISED CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT HE LIKELY WILL NOT BE DOING ANYTHING TO REMEDY THE VIOLATION, AND THAT HE WORKS FOR THE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD AND HE CAN'T IMAGINE THE COUNTY WOULD WANT NEGATIVE PUBLICITY.
CODE ENFORCEMENT PUT HIS CASE IN MORATORIUM ON MAY 9TH.
THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, FOR THE RECORD, MARIE COOLEY COUNTY ROAD 208.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS NOT A ONE DAY OR ONE MONTH EVENT.
THIS MONSTER REARS ITS UGLY HEAD 24 OVER SEVEN 365.
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DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HAS NO BOUNDARIES.IT'S NOT DETERMINED BY ANYONE'S SOCIAL, ECONOMIC OR ETHNIC BACKGROUND.
WE OFTEN PLACE OUR EMPHASIS ON THE ADULT SURVIVORS, WHICH CAN BE PROVIDED WITH SAFE PLANS TO LEAVE, OBTAIN EMERGENCY HOUSING LEGAL ASSISTANCE, HELP WITH OBTAINING JOBS, AND BE GIVEN THE TOOLS TO LEAD PRODUCTIVE, PRODUCTIVE AND VIOLENCE FREE LIVES AND WHAT I FEEL IS MOST IMPORTANT.
COUNSELING OFFERED THROUGH THE BETTY GRIFFIN CENTER.
BUT TODAY, I WOULD LIKE US TO REMEMBER THE YOUNG SURVIVORS.
EXCUSE ME? THOSE WHO ARE OFTEN OVERLOOKED AND MAY NOT HAVE A VOICE.
IMAGINE HOW THEY MUST FEEL HAVING WATCHED THEIR MOTHERS BERATED, BEATEN, OR EVEN WORSE, BY THE VERY PERSON THAT TELLS THEM THEY LOVE THEM DAILY AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO PROCESS THESE EMOTIONS.
THIS IS WHY THE BETTY GRIFFIN CENTER IS SO VERY IMPORTANT.
THEY ALSO PROVIDE COUNSELING TO THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN FREE FROM THE MONSTER LIKE ME.
I, FOR ONE, HAVE REALIZED THAT EVEN AFTER ALL THIS TIME, I HAVE TRIGGERS AND SUFFER FROM PTSD AS A RESULT OF THE SITUATION AND I KNOW I CAN SEEK HELP AS WELL. SO HOW CAN YOU HELP? BY DONATING AND SHOPPING THE LOCAL THRIFT STORES, PROVIDING MONETARY DONATIONS, VOLUNTEERING, PARTICIPATING IN FUNDRAISERS, AND EVEN BECOMING A VICTIM'S ADVOCATE JUST TO NAME A FEW.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK YOU, THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE BETTY GRIFFIN CENTER.
IT'S BECAUSE OF PROGRAMS LIKE THIS THAT I'M ABLE TO STAND HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY.
AND PLEASE REMEMBER, IT TAKES A COMMUNITY TO END DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
SO I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THIS AND REMAIN A PART OF THE SOLUTION.
SOMEONE WILL ALWAYS BE ON THE OTHER END OF THAT LINE TO LISTEN AND PROVIDE ASSISTANCE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND MAY I JUST ADD THE THE NUMBER, THE PHONE NUMBER? SURE. GO AHEAD. THE BETTY GRIFFIN HOTLINE NUMBER IS AREA CODE 904 8241555.
AND I'M REPRESENTING HASTINGS MAIN STREET ORGANIZATION, PO BOX 16.
WE FED OVER 500 FAMILIES THAT LAST EVENING.
LONG WAIT, BUT IT WAS WELL APPRECIATED.
SO. NOVEMBER, WATCH YOUR CALENDAR.
AND THAT SEGUES ME INTO RECALLING THE DESIGN OF THE LIBRARY, WHICH HIT OUR COMMUNITY BACK IN JUNE OF 2023, AND THE COMMUNITY WAS ABHORRED WITH THE DESIGN OF THE ARCHITECT THAT CAME BACK AND THE COMMISSION DID THANK YOU, RESPOND APPROPRIATELY, AND IT WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
AND WE'VE GOT A VERY WELL FIT DESIGN COMING OUR WAY VERY SOON.
BUT THIS BRINGS ME TO ANOTHER TOPIC I WOULD LIKE TO PLEA FOR SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE BOARD.
HASTINGS MAIN STREET HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY FOR A YEAR AND A HALF OR MORE TO MAKE SURE PROTECTIONS ARE IN PLACE FOR THE MAIN STREET COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, TO PRESERVE THE HERITAGE AND TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC VITALITY.
WITH THAT SAID, WE NEED THE OVERLAY DISTRICT REDEFINED.
REWRITTEN WITH DESIGN STANDARDS IN PLACE SO THAT WHEN INTERESTED DEVELOPERS COME TO OUR COMMUNITY AND WANT TO DEVELOP THINGS THAT ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE A VISION FOR, THEY NEED TO BE IN PLACE.
SO I PLEA FOR THE COMMISSION TO ASSIGN STAFF TO HELP US IN GROWTH MANAGEMENT TO CODIFY THIS INFORMATION.
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WE'VE MET MANY TIMES OVER THE YEAR.WE'VE EVEN GOT A PRELIMINARY STREETSCAPE DESIGN THAT WE PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY.
ANOTHER ITEM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE IS THAT THE INSPIRE CONSULTANTS WHO ARE COMPLETING THE COMP PLAN HAVE NOT APPROACHED THE CRB.
THE CULTURAL RESOURCE REVIEW BOARD FOR DISCUSSIONS.
THIS WAS BROUGHT IN OUR MEETING YESTERDAY.
DORIS TAYLOR, 208 LOBELIA ROAD.
COMMISSIONERS. I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT CRITERION THAT ARE USED FOR DETERMINING WHAT GETS PUT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WHAT DOES NOT.
I HAVE A REQUEST THAT IN THE FUTURE.
GRANT REQUESTS ARE CONSIDERED BY THIS BOARD BEFORE THE REQUEST IS MADE, BECAUSE GRANTS HAVE CONDITIONS IN THEM THAT THE COUNTY IS COMMITTING TO.
SOMETIMES FINANCIAL, SOMETIMES A LOT MORE.
NOW, WE'VE SUFFERED THROUGH THE GRANT DRIVEN PATH DISASTER PROJECT DOWN IN SAINT AUGUSTINE SOUTH.
WE'RE STILL FIGHTING ABOUT IT.
THE GRANT REQUIREMENTS WERE NOT ALL MET, WHICH IS WHY IT'S BEING HELD UP.
AND I WAS THERE ON DAY ONE, AND WHAT WAS SAID WAS, OH, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
AND YOU KEEP TRYING TO SLIDE IT INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO IT JUST GOES BY AND IT NEVER GETS DISCUSSED UNTIL YOU'RE AT THE END.
A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY, A WHOLE LOT OF RESOURCES HAVE ALREADY BEEN INVESTED.
AND YOU SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, AFTER ALL THIS INVESTMENT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
AND THAT IS AN INSULT TO THE CITIZENS OF SAINT JOHN COUNTY.
NOW, TODAY, YOU HAD A GRANT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 33.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANYTHING IN IT.
THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN IN THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHOEVER MADE IT UP CHOSE NOT TO MENTION THE DOLLAR FIGURE THAT YOU'RE COMMITTING THE COUNTY TO, WHICH IS $350,000 OF MATCHING FUNDS THAT DOESN'T BELONG HIDDEN IN THE CONSENT AGENDA. DO US THE CREDIT.
BE REALLY, HONESTLY TRANSPARENT AND GRANT REQUESTS.
BELONG ON THE REGULAR AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN ALL HEAR WHAT IT'S ABOUT, WHAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO, AND A PROPER, HONEST, OPEN DECISION CAN BE MADE.
THANK YOU. HELLO, CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATES.
I'D LIKE TO BRING UP A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY FOR SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.
THAT THE GENTLEMAN IS WELL KNOWN FOR WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND BRINGING IN, LIKE, THE THE SCHOOL FOR TECHNICAL CAREERS.
THAT MIGHT. THAT'S GOING TO BE SPUN OFF AND PUT OUT IN HASTINGS.
BUT THERE'S A LOT THAT DOING THE RESEARCH AND READING ABOUT THEM, I FOUND OUT THAT MR. ALLEN NEASE WAS A PIONEER FOR THE FLORIDA RESTORATION AND CONSERVE AND CONSERVATION EFFORTS IN THE MID 20TH CENTURY. MR. NEASE PLANTED OVER 55 MILLION PINE TREES THROUGHOUT THE NORTH FLORIDA AREA, BASICALLY ON THE PANHANDLE, ALL THE WAY TO NORTH JACKSONVILLE, SAINT JOHNS COUNTY AREA.
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HE CAME DOWN TO SAINT JOHNS COUNTY AND TO MANAGE A 17,000 ACRE OVERCUT OVERWORKED TIMBERLAND AREAS FROM THE ROBINSON IMPROVEMENT COMPANY.HE ESTABLISHED THE FORESTRY PROGRAM FOR SAINT JOHNS COUNTY IN 1971.
HUDSON PULP MILL, WHICH IS WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL NAME, BUT NOW IS THE GEORGIA-PACIFIC.
MILL IN PALATKA OPENED UP OR CAME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE ROBINSON.
IMPROVEMENT COMPANY TO ALLOW UNRESTRICTED ACCESS ON ALL THE PROPERTY FOR HARVESTING.
SINCE THAT AGREEMENT WAS WRITTEN UP IN 1971, IT WAS IT WAS SET FOR.
THAT TERM WILL END NEXT OR EXCUSE ME, FEBRUARY OF 2026.
SO JUST A LITTLE HISTORY THERE.
I MEAN, IT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO FIND OUT ABOUT ALLEN ROAD, EVEN THOUGH IT RUNS BY THE LANDFILL.
THAT'S THAT REALLY NOT REALLY LOOKED AT NEASE HIGH SCHOOL.
YEP. THE HOME OF THE TIM TEBOW PITCHER AND JERSEY.
BUT, YEAH, MR. NEASE PUT ALL THAT WORK AND EFFORT INTO ALL PRESERVING AND REBUILDING AND RECONSTRUCTING THESE AREAS THAT IS BECOMING HARVESTED FOR RESIDENTIAL.
BJ WEST, CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.
TAXPAYERS ARE STILL WAITING FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO BE HIRED.
AND FIVE AND SIX PEOPLE ALL LEFT.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE CELEBRATING AT A RESTAURANT.
FIVE ZERO TO PRESERVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THAT CAN ALWAYS BE APPEALED.
WHATEVER YOU DO HERE CAN BE APPEALED.
AND I THANK PEOPLE THAT COME IN HERE DON'T REALIZE WHAT MAY BE DOWN THE ROAD.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
SO WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN AND YOU'RE STARTING ON SOME TO PRESERVE WHAT WE HAVE HERE, THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
I THINK SOME OF THE PEOPLE JUST GRATEFUL AND THIS THING GETS OVER WITH.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT, MADAM CHAIR.
OKAY. AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL BREAK FOR LUNCH.
THANK YOU. WELCOME BACK EVERYBODY.
WE ARE GOING TO PICK UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
[7. Public Hearing * DEVAGREE 2024-02 Robinson Improvement Company Development Agreement. The Robinson Improvement Company (RIC) has proposed a Development Agreement to provide mitigation for the transportation impacts associated to the proposed Robinson Improvement Company PUD for the development of 3,332 residential units on 2,673 acres located west of I-95 between CR 208 and CR 214. RIC proposes to construct a segment of CR 2209 from CR 208 to CR 214 as 2- lanes of a future 4-lane. The construction is proposed in two phases coinciding with the PUD phasing. RIC is required to donate the right-of-way for CR 2209 pursuant to the Agreement for Donation of Right-of-Way and Stormwater Sites between the Robinson Improvement Company and St. Johns County, dated January 17, 2019. executed in conjunction with a Comprehensive Plan Amendment for the subject property from Rural Silviculture (R/S) to Residential B future land use. This is the first of two required public hearings for consideration of a Development Agreement. The second public hearing is scheduled before the Board of County Commissioners on November 5, 2024, along with the proposed PUD.]
GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON.BARELY. ZACH MILLER, 303 OLD BARN COURT.
ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT ON THIS I'M GOING TO DO A LITTLE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS IS NOT.
SO BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS IS.
THIS IS JUST THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
NOW, WHAT IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? HERE'S A LITTLE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT.
2209. BACK IN THE LATE 90S, A VARIANCE WAS GRANTED FROM FDOT DEALING WITH THE DESIGNATION OF I-95.
IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT VARIANCE, THE COUNTY COMMITTED TO BUILDING A 32 MILE PARALLEL ROADWAY TO I-95, BASICALLY A LOCAL ARTERIAL RUNNING ALL THE WAY FROM THE COUNTY BORDER DOWN TO THE SOUTHERN COUNTY BORDER.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT IS A SMALL SEGMENT ON IT IN THE ROBINSON.
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SECTION. IT'S A 4.1 MILE SECTION THAT GOES FROM 208 TO COUNTY ROAD 214.NOW, THE HISTORY ON THIS IS THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT WAS, I THINK, FILED IN 2017 AND APPROVED IN 2019 TO TAKE THIS PROPERTY TO RESIDENTIAL, BE AS PART OF THAT, IT WAS ENTITLED WITH OVER 3300 APPROXIMATELY HOMES.
CONCURRENT WITH THAT, THE OWNER AGREED TO DONATE 7.4 MILES OF RIGHT OF WAY.
THIS IS DEALING WITH 4.1 MILES OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY.
IN THIS CASE, THE IMPACTS ON AREA ROADWAYS ARE APPROXIMATELY $39.9 MILLION.
AND THE MITIGATION THE BUILDING OF THIS ROADWAY IS $49.1 MILLION.
WITH WHAT WE THINK THE ACTUAL COST IS $55 MILLION.
ALL THE AGREEMENT DOES IS MEMORIALIZE THAT REQUIRE CERTAIN START DATES OF WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DOING THAT IMPROVEMENT, AND THEN ALSO ALLOWING FOR IMPACT FEE CREDITS, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT ODD ABOUT THIS ONE, IS THAT IN MOST AGREEMENTS, ACTUALLY, I THINK EVERY AGREEMENT I'VE EVER WORKED ON, YOU GET CREDIT FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY.
YOU ALSO GET CREDIT TOWARDS YOUR MITIGATION FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY.
IN THIS CASE, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THAT.
I THINK THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 24 TO $25 MILLION OF VALUE THAT WE'RE NOT RECOUPING.
THIS IS THE FIRST ONE OF THESE AGREEMENTS I'VE EVER WORKED ON WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT AT BUILD OUT AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FULL BUILD OUT DOESN'T EXCEED THE CAPACITY ON 208 214 OR ALANIS 208 AND 214.
THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THOSE ARE ACTUALLY ROADWAYS THAT BORDER THIS PROPERTY.
THOSE ARE THE PROPERTIES THAT THE ROADS THAT YOU DESIGNATED RESIDENTIAL BE.
NICE. FINALLY, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS IMPORTANT.
THERE DOES NOT INCREASE TRIPS ON STATE ROAD 16 FROM THE OUTLET MALL TO SOUTH FRANCIS ROAD.
SO AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE, THIS IS JUST THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
WE HAVE A LENGTHIER PRESENTATION IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, MR. MILLER. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.
YOU REFERRED TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
COULD YOU GIVE US A PRESENTATION? WELL, THAT ACTUALLY WOULD BE THE PUD PRESENTATION.
THAT WOULD BE ON NOVEMBER 5TH.
SO I REALIZE THIS ISN'T A VOTING THING, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, SO SO TELL ME WHY THIS IS BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL.
WELL, YOU'RE NOT VOTING ON THIS, SO THIS ISN'T BEFORE IT.
YOU'LL ACTUALLY VOTE ON THE PUD AND THEN WOULD VOTE ON THIS.
IT'S THE PEOPLE OF SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY.
I REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY, AND WE ALL WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S AN AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 163, IN YOUR LOCAL ORDINANCE CODE, WHEN YOU TRIP CAPACITY OR TRIP THE LEVEL OF SERVICE ON AREA ROADS PURSUANT TO A CALCULATION BY YOUR LOCAL STAFF AND IS MANDATED BY STATE STATUTE, YOU HAVE TO MITIGATE YOU CAN DO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
YOU CAN PAY MONEY, YOU CAN DONATE RIGHT AWAY, OR YOU CAN BUILD THE ROAD.
OR YOU COULD WAIT FOR THE COUNTY TO BUILD THE ROAD AND THEN JUST EAT UP THAT CAPACITY.
IN THIS CASE, WE'RE NOT GETTING CREDIT FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY.
WE'RE DONATING AND INSTEAD WE'RE BUILDING THE ROADWAY INSTEAD OF THE COUNTY DOING IT.
WELL, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SPECIFICALLY, IT'S A 2207 SINGLE FAMILY, 915 AGE RESTRICTED, 340 TOWNHOMES AND 250,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS ACTUALLY EXEMPT FROM CONCURRENCY.
BUT I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT THAT COMMISSIONER JOSEPH BRINGS UP.
THE ACTUAL TOTAL AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROPERTY WASN'T DECIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
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WELL, I KNOW YOU'RE GOOD AT FINDING THE LITTLE LEGAL SENTENCES HERE AND THERE, AS YOU DID IN THE MARSH LANDING THING.AND I KNOW YOU'RE A LAWYER AND YOU'RE A LAWYER, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL NOT LAWYERS.
WELL, I WOULD REJECT THE IDEA THAT IT'S EARLY.
SO I REJECT THE ARGUMENT THAT THIS IS EARLY.
AGAIN, I'M THE PEOPLE OF SAINT JOHN COUNTY.
AND HOW DOES IT DIVIDE UP? HOW DOES WHAT DIVIDE UP HOMES MULTIFAMILY? I JUST READ THAT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO READ IT.
WHERE'S THE SCHOOLS? THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THE 2207 SINGLE FAMILY, 915 AGE RESTRICTED, 340 TOWNHOMES AND CURRENTLY 250,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL.
SURE. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.
MR. MILLER, WILL YOU PLEASE DISCUSS THE PHASING OF THE ROAD AND THE HOW MANY HOMES WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BUILD IN PHASE ONE, AND WHAT PORTION OF ROADS WILL BE BUILT JUST SO THAT THAT'S ON THE RECORD? SURE.
AND THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TO THE PHASING.
THERE'S WHAT'S IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND THEN THERE IS WHAT'S IN THE PUD.
IS IT ALL RIGHT? EVEN THOUGH I THINK COMMISSIONER JOSEPH WANTED SOME COMMENTS ON THE PUD.
SO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IT'S FOR PHASE ONE FOR THE ROAD.
AND THIS IS THE FOUR LANING TO THE THE ENTRANCE OF OUR PROJECT.
YOU'RE AT 1038 SINGLE FAMILY, 170 MULTIFAMILY.
AND THEN THE 457 AGE RESTRICTED.
THE SECOND PHASE BUILDING AND BONDING TO THE TO 214 COMES WITH THE APPROXIMATELY THE SAME NUMBER.
THE PUD WILL SET FORTH THAT THERE WILL BE NOT BE A PERMIT UNTIL JANUARY 2028, BUT THEN ALSO A MAXIMUM OF 500 HOMES COULD BE BUILT PRIOR TO JANUARY 2030.
AND MR. MILLER AND OUR STAFF REPORT ON PAGE SIX, IT HAS AN ESTIMATED COST FOR PHASE ONE AT $22,453,000 AND AN ESTIMATED COST OF PHASE TWO AT $21,951,000.
IT'S IT'S THIS IS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND SINCE THAT REPORT WAS WRITTEN, WE'VE ACTUALLY AGREED TO FOUR-LANE THE ROAD.
BUT YES, BEFORE YOU PULL THE PERMIT, IT ACTUALLY HAS TO BE COMPLETED.
AND THERE IS A THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THE AGREEMENT THAT SAYS WHAT THAT MEANS.
OKAY. SO THE ROAD HAS TO BE BUILT.
IT'S NOT TIED TO A DOLLAR AMOUNT.
CORRECT. WE'VE YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME BATTLE WOUNDS FROM HAVING BEEN THROUGH THAT BEFORE.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM.
SURE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.
I OBJECT TO YOUR SIDE COMMENT TO ME THAT WASN'T VERY NICE.
AND SECOND OF ALL, HOW MANY OF THESE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE YOU MET WITH? HAVE YOU MET WITH ANY OF THEM ON THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? I DON'T THINK I'VE MET WITH ANY OF THEM, BUT THIS ISN'T QUASI JUDICIAL.
OKAY. HAVE YOU MET WITH ANY OF THEM REGARDING THE ROBINSON? YES. WHY DIDN'T YOU MEET WITH ME? YOU DIDN'T ASK.
OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? OKAY.
I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS JUST BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THIS POINT IS THAT YOU'RE LIKE, OH YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
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THERE'S THAT OTHER SIDE.WHERE YOU CAN USE THAT FOR GOOD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR FORBEARANCE.
JOE MCINERNEY 1005 BLACKBERRY LANE.
SO I COULD SPEAK FOR 15 MINUTES.
I'VE GOT THREE. SO THIS MAY BE A FIRST HEARING.
AND SO I THINK YOU WERE RIGHT TO ASK ANY OF YOU ARE RIGHT TO ASK WHAT'S THE PUD LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE ARE WE REALLY GETTING THE KIND OF TRAFFIC MITIGATION THAT WE NEED BASED ON WHAT IS PROPOSED? SO AND BY THE WAY, HERE'S THE PLAN, PHASE ONE.
SO, YOU KNOW, YES, THERE WAS AN IMPORTANT DECISION MADE JANUARY 15TH, 2019.
THERESA BISHOP PRESENTED THAT.
BUT THE DECISION STILL ALSO REQUIRES A REZONING HEARING.
THAT'S PART OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN FRONT OF THE PGA AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND ON NOVEMBER 5TH AS WELL AS STILL REQUIRING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO MITIGATE THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS AS CAUSED BY THE PUD WHICH YOU DON'T KNOW TODAY.
REALLY. BUT IMPORTANTLY, THE 2019 DECISION DID NOT TIE YOUR HANDS.
SO LOOK, WHAT ARE THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS, WHAT ROADS AND WHERE? YOU KNOW, YOUR STAFF HAVE RECEIVED INFORMATION IN AUGUST AND BEGAN THEIR REVIEW WITH LIMITED INFORMATION REALLY AND STILL TODAY, LIMITED INFORMATION ARRIVED AT LATE AND SAID THAT THERE WERE MANY WITHIN FOUR MILES AND MANY FURTHER THAN FOUR MILES, IN FACT OOPS, I PUT TWO OF THOSE IN. IN FACT, THEY SAID THAT STATE ROUTE 16 WOULD BE ADVERSELY IMPACTED.
THE TRAFFIC WOULD BE IMPACTED SIGNIFICANTLY, IT SAYS.
NOW, WHAT DOES THE APPLICANT DO IN RESPONSE? THEY SAY THAT THEY DESIRE TO MITIGATE ALL OF THAT BY DONATING THE RIGHT OF WAY AND CONSTRUCTING 2209.
AND PHASE ONE, WE JUST LEARNED, WILL GO HALFWAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT MUST FIT WITH THE PLAN UNIT, THE PUD.
YOU WILL HEAR THAT ON NOVEMBER 5TH.
BUT I JUST ASK YOU TO PLEASE REMEMBER THAT LIST.
YOUR STAFF HAS GIVEN YOU THAT LIST.
THEY REALLY HAVE. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AT THE SUBMITTAL, THEY HAVE GIVEN YOU THAT.
AND SO YOU CAN USE A1 311 AGAIN CONSULT YOUR COUNTY ATTORNEY.
AND ARE THOSE ROADS IMPORTANT.
THANK YOU. LET ME FINISH THIS.
SORRY. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
NORTH CAPIRO YOU KNOW THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT IS GOING TO BE GIVEN HERE IS WORTHLESS.
YOU'VE GOT A SECTION OF 2209 THAT THE COUNTY DOESN'T OWN YET.
AND HAS IT BEEN SOUGHT AFTER? THERE'S A CORNER THAT COMES ACROSS THERE OF 2209 PLAN THAT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE RIGHTS TO.
SO WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR 2209 HERE IS WORTHLESS WHEN IT GOES NOWHERE.
BJ WEST CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.
THAT'S WHY THIS LADY IS GOING TO KNOW MORE THAN I DO, BECAUSE SHE KNOWS THAT AREA.
PROBABLY. BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I TRY TO LEARN AT THESE MEETINGS WHY THEY HAVE TO DO THIS NOW INSTEAD OF WAITING.
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TODAY AND THEN HAVE THE MEETING ON THE FIFTH TO TALK ABOUT THE PUD.AMELIA HARVEY, 2010 RYAN ROAD.
I AM INCREDIBLY NERVOUS, SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ WHAT I PREPARED INSTEAD OF TRYING TO WING IT.
IT'S OKAY. YEAH. I HAVE BROUGHT WITH ME THREE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT I TOOK ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 10TH, IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE TORRENTIAL RAIN WE RECEIVED DURING AND JUST AFTER HURRICANE MILTON.
MY FIRST CONCERN IS TO ASK, WHERE WILL ALL THIS WATER GO DURING FUTURE RAIN EVENTS DURING AND AFTER HURRICANE MILTON? THE DITCHES ON COUNTY ROAD 214 WERE FILLED TO CAPACITY, EVEN THOUGH THIS LAND WAS RETAINING SO MUCH WATER.
HOW WILL THE CURRENT DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE HANDLE SUCH A MASSIVE INFLUX OF DIRECT RUNOFF FROM 3300 HOMES? WILL THERE BE A BACKLOG OF WATER, WHICH IN TURN MEANS THAT THOSE OF US IN TOCO TERRACE AND OTHER SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES WILL HAVE STANDING WATER FOR LONGER THAN EVER BEFORE.
HAVE THERE BEEN STUDIES ON HOW THIS WILL IMPACT EXISTING COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT? THESE PHOTOS SHOW THE CLEARED LAND WHERE TIMBER HAS ALREADY BEEN HARVESTED IN PREPARATION FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY WAS APPROVED IN 2019.
SAINT JOHNS COUNTY HAS A RELIABLE HISTORY OF BEING REACTIVE IN TRAFFIC ISSUES, SO WE ARE PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEED THAT IT WILL BE DECADES BEFORE ANY STEPS ARE TAKEN TO IMPROVE THESE COUNTY ROADS, ADDING A MINIMUM OF 6600 VEHICLES DAILY TO THESE TWO LANE COUNTY ROADS WILL CAUSE PROBLEMS. IT IS LAUGHABLE TO SUGGEST THAT ADDING COUNTY ROAD TWO 209 WILL ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC, AND FRANKLY, IT'S INSULTING THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT US TO BELIEVE THAT.
I READ THE FEEL GOOD ARTICLE ABOUT A PROPOSED AGRIHOOD AND HOW IT WILL SUPPOSEDLY MAINTAIN THE RURAL LANDSCAPE OF THIS AREA, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE A SINGLE WORD OF THAT IS TRUE. IF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS APPROVED, IT WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF OUR RURAL LANDSCAPES.
AND YET ANOTHER NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF OUR LONG HISTORY OF AGRICULTURE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.
THE LOCAL RESIDENTS ARE NOT NAIVE.
I ASK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, TO DO THE RESPONSIBLE THING AND DELAY APPROVAL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT UNTIL THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THIS RURAL AREA IS IMPROVED AND ABLE TO HANDLE THIS DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT BEING OVERWHELMED.
I UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS COMING BEFORE THE BOARD TODAY.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANY MORE ABOUT THAT.
HOWEVER THIS TYPE OF DECISION NEEDS TWO HEARINGS, AND NO DECISION IS GOING TO BE MADE TODAY.
I HOPE THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE WILL GET THE WORD OUT THAT THIS IS COMING AND THEY NEED TO BE AT PCA ON THURSDAY.
THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE SPOKEN ABOUT AT PCA, AND IT GENERALLY WOULD HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE. WELL, MOST RECENTLY THEY'VE BEEN GIVING US ALMOST A WEEK TO GO THROUGH THE INFORMATION.
IT WAS PROMISED FOR YESTERDAY, WASN'T THERE? THIS MORNING I LOOKED BEFORE I CAME OVER.
I SAT DOWN WITH MY LAPTOP THAT I BROUGHT.
IT SHOWED UP AT 910 AND THERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE THAT PGA MEMBERS HAVE TO DIGEST BEFORE THURSDAY.
WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH? I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE 2019 MEETING WHERE THE THIS WHOLE DEAL WAS PUT TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE DISCUSSION
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WAS. THERE WAS NO PLAN FOR THIS TO COME BEFORE YOU ALL BEFORE 20, 26. THAT'S WHAT I READ.I READ NO DEVELOPMENT BEFORE 2026.
IN MY MIND IS DEVELOPMENT BEGINS WHEN THEY COME TO YOU TO START THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN RUSH, RUSH, RUSH.
AND I'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS BOARD FOR A LONG TIME.
THAT'S WHEN DECISIONS GET MADE THAT ARE REGRETTED LATER.
AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO DO WHAT YOU GOT TO DO.
BUT THANK GOD THERE'S NO DECISION THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE TODAY.
BUT PCA ON THURSDAY, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK THROUGH THIS STUFF.
BUT FROM WHAT I SAW ON THE STAFF COMMENTS, THERE'S PAGES THAT DETAIL VARIANCES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ASKED FOR. IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD TO ME.
GOOD AFTERNOON. CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATES.
I'M CONCERNED THAT HOPEFULLY THAT THEY WILL HAVE A PUBLIC COMMUNITY MEETING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE DIRECTLY BACKED UP TO THE SAID PROPERTIES, OR THIS ROAD WILL GO THROUGH SO THEY CAN GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MUCH THEY WILL BE AFFECTED. WITH THIS ACTUALLY, FROM ME LOOKING ALL BACK THAT IN 2016, 2017 WHEN THE BOARD WAS APPROACHED AND SAID, YES, IF YOU PURCHASE THIS MUCH PROPERTY FROM US, WE'LL THROW IN THIS OR PURCHASE THIS, WE'LL THROW INTO THIS ASPECT OF IT.
WELL, THE COUNTY PURCHASED PROPERTY ON THE SAME THING.
THROUGH CHRIS, SHE AND STELLA DEVELOPMENT COMPANIES SOLD IT TO GET IT BOUGHT OUT, TO GET THIS IMPLEMENTED SO THEY CAN GET THE ROAD GOING IN THERE.
AND I'M NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORIST, BUT I WOULD SEE THAT THE ORIGINAL OPERATION OR THE DIRECTION OF THE ROAD WOULD BE TRAVELING WOULD WAS OFFSET TO WHERE THEY WANT TO GET IT IN BECAUSE IT'S GOING THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THE ORIGINAL ONE WAS MORE TOWARDS THE OPEN AREA OF THAT BIG SECTION, NOT BUTTED UP AGAINST CABBAGE HAMMOCK ROAD. OKAY.
AND ANYWAYS, IF YOU, IF THAT ROAD WOULD GO IN RIGHT THERE AT 2014 TO GET OFF 2014 AND TO GET OUT OF THERE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO TO ALAN.
NIECE RODE DOWN ALAN, NIECE TO 207 AND TAKE 207 THROUGH VERMONT HEIGHTS TO GET 95.
SO IT'S SEVEN MILES, SIX AND A HALF MILES, SEVEN MILES TO GET OUT OF THAT AREA IF THAT ROAD GOES IN BECAUSE 208, IT'LL BE WORKED ON EVENTUALLY.
BUT YOU GOT THE BIG INTERSECTION UP THERE THAT'LL NEVER WORK OUT.
SO SO THAT'S SOME OF THE MAIN THINGS.
AND YES, THIS IS DEFINITELY PUTTING IT BEFORE LET'S HEAR THE WHOLE STORY OF THE PUD.
THIS IS JUST I JUST GET COVERED TO PUT A ROAD IN, AND THEN LATER WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.
THAT IF THAT'S THE CONCEPT, THIS NEEDS TO BE DEFINITELY CHANGED.
LET'S SEE WHAT THIS COMPANY HAS THAT'S COMING DOWN FROM BOSTON.
IT IS A L L E N MR. NIECE'S NAME IS A L L E N.
AND HE WAS A GREAT AMERICAN EDITOR.
I'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT A COUPLE PEOPLE HAVE ANSWERED ABOUT.
WHAT'S THE RUSH? FINLEY PETER DUNNE, WRITING.
AS MR. DOOLEY, SAID, THE SUPREME COURT FOLLOWS THE ELECTION RETURNS.
WHAT A SENSE OF HUMOR THEY HAVE THESE DEVELOPERS, YOU GOT TO GIVE THEM CREDIT.
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BEFORE THEY EVER ASK FOR A DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION.IN THIS CASE, YOU SAW THE DIRTY PICTURES THIS LADY SHARED.
THEY CLEAR CUT AND IT'S NOW FLOODED.
WHAT ABOUT MOSQUITO CONTROL? WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THESE KIND OF DEVELOPMENTS? AND THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, ON THE PESTIFEROUS MOSQUITOES THAT BRING MOSQUITO BORNE DISEASES THAT KILL PEOPLE? 600,000 PEOPLE IN THE WORLD A YEAR.
WHERE IS THE PUBLIC TRANSIT IN THIS PICTURE? WE'RE CREATING MORE BURDENS ON OUR ROADS.
WHERE IS THE PUBLIC TRANSIT? WHEN DO WE GET THE FIRST LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM IN SAINT AUGUSTINE AND SAINT JOHNS COUNTY? WHAT IS THE ANALYTICAL CHEMISTRY REPORT FROM THE CONSULTANT FOR THE DEVELOPER ABOUT THE PRESENCE OF PESTICIDES, FUNGICIDES, RODENTICIDES AND FERTILIZERS IN THE SOIL WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT PEOPLE IN HOUSES AND I ASSUME THAT BABIES ARE GOING TO BE PLAYING IN DIRT.
ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THEM SICK AND GIVE THEM CANCER? THEY DON'T THINK THIS THROUGH.
THEY JUST WANT TO PUSH IT THROUGH.
AND IN THE GREAT, IN THE WORDS OF THE LATE SENATOR DANIEL PATRICK MOYNIHAN, SECRECY IS FOR LOSERS.
FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW THE VALUE OF THE INFORMATION.
LET THE NEXT COMMISSION DECIDE.
I THINK IT IS. IT IS AT BEST FACETIOUS TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER 5TH.
WHOSE IDEA WAS THAT? AND THEN WE HIRE AN INTERIM COUNTY ATTORNEY ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF A COMMISSIONER WHO IS NOT GOING TO BE THERE VERY MUCH LONGER.
AND HIS BASIS FOR RECOMMENDING THAT COUNTY ATTORNEY WAS HE'S MY FRIEND.
HOW MANY VARIANCES AND WAIVERS ARE IN THIS PACKAGE? COULD WE LIST EVERY SINGLE ONE? COULD WE BASICALLY DO A STAR WARS KIND OF VISUAL ON THE SCREEN AND SHOW A LIST OF ALL THE WAIVERS THAT DOG WON'T HUNT? THIS IS NOT A GOOD PROPOSAL.
THIS IS NOT BASED ON ANYTHING.
WELL, GARY HART PUT IT BEST WHEN HE WAS A BRAND NEW UNITED STATES SENATOR IN 1975.
HE GAVE HIS FLEDGLING STAFF A MEMO IN JANUARY OF 1975, AND ASKED THAT EVERY SINGLE LEGISLATIVE PROPOSAL THAT HIS STAFF ANSWER THE QUESTION, IS IT BASED ON NEED OR GREED? IS IT BASED ON NEED OR GREED? AND THE BEST QUESTION TODAY, WHAT'S YOUR DOGGONE HURRY? THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY, THAT BRINGS US BACK TO THE BOARD.
SO SINCE THERE'S NO VOTE TO BE TAKEN, WE'RE JUST GOING TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE SECOND REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS SCHEDULED FOR THE BCC ON NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024.
OKAY. AND THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
[8. First Reading - San Juan Drive Parking Amendment. First reading of a proposed amendment to the Ponte Veda Zoning District Regulations (PVZDR) Ordinance NO. 2003-05, as amended; Amending Section IX.D,” off-street parking- General provisions” to modify San Juan Drive Parking Requirements and limitations. The Ponte Vedra Zoning and Adjustment Board voted to recommend approval of this item with a vote of 4/1, Mr. Peduto Dissenting.]
GOOD AFTERNOON. HELLO.GOOD AFTERNOON. BRAD WESTER, REPRESENTING THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE DISTRICT OF PONTE VEDRA BEACH.
810. PONTE VEDRA BEACH, FLORIDA.
32082. I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU TODAY.
AND IT'S THE SAME ONE THAT I PRESENTED AT THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING AND ADJUSTMENT BOARD.
WE HAD A FIRST HEARING, AND THEN WE DID SOME COMPROMISE REDRAFTING OF THE PARKING ORDINANCE.
AND THEN WE HAD OUR SECOND ZONING ADJUSTMENT BOARD HEARING.
SO THIS IS ON BEHALF OF THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE DISTRICT.
A LITTLE BIT OF A CONTEXT AND HISTORY.
SAN JUAN DRIVE IS A TWO LANE LOCAL ROAD IN THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE DISTRICT.
IT'S ABOUT TWO MILES LONG, ROUGHLY.
IT GOES BETWEEN SOLANA ROAD AND PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD.
IT'S ABOUT AN AVERAGE OF 20 FOOT WIDE OF A REGULAR PAVEMENT WIDTH WITH NO CURBS.
UNLIKE MANY OF OTHER LOCAL ROADS IN THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE DISTRICT HAS A POSTED SPEED LIMIT 25.
HERE'S A MAP SHOWING IT GRAPHICALLY.
THEY'RE TALKING AND I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING.
COULD YOU. DO YOU MIND? CHAIR. YEAH.
THANK YOU. THE SO THE ROADWAY SAN JUAN DRIVE IS REPRESENTED HERE GRAPHICALLY.
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WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS MAP IF NEEDED FOR REFERENCE.THE MAIN ISSUES ARE. PARKED VEHICLES GENERALLY IMPEDE THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.
AND THEY CREATE CONFLICT POINTS WITH UNSAFE CONDITIONS LIKE MEANDERING THROUGH ONCOMING FLOW, SPEEDING AROUND PARKING VEHICLES, PARKED VEHICLES, AND PROCEEDING AROUND BLIND CURVES, MAINLY DURING WEEKDAYS AND PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC.
THE REQUEST IS FOR A NO PARKING ORDINANCE ON SAN JUAN DRIVE, SPONSORED BY THE MSD.
THIS IS REALLY MIMICKED AFTER THE PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD PARKING ORDINANCE THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2021.
THIS ORDINANCE 2021 DASH 32 AND HAS SHOWN GREAT PROGRESS BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS.
AND SO, HOWEVER, IT IS NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL.
SO WE'VE KIND OF RETAILORED THIS ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY TO THE LOCAL ROAD THAT IS SAN JUAN DRIVE.
THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE NO PARKING REGULATION ARE FOR EMERGENCY LAW ENFORCEMENT, PUBLIC SERVICE LIKE MAIL PACKAGE, UTILITY EMERGENCY SERVICES, SCHOOL BUSSES, BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. NON-ROUTINE MOVING AND DELIVERY SERVICES.
ON WEEKDAYS TO ALLOW FOR THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC DURING PEAK TIMES.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE KIND OF TAKEN WHAT HAS WORKED ON PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND THEN RECRAFTED THAT AND COMPROMISED IT TO ALLOW VEHICLES TO PARK ON THE ROAD EXCEPT FOR BETWEEN 7 A.M.
AND WE'VE MARKED UP THAT DRAFT, THE SIGNAGE.
THAT WAS AN ORIGINAL ISSUE. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE NO PARKING SIGNS UP AND DOWN SAN JUAN DRIVE? NO, WE DON'T NEED A WHOLE FOREST OF SIGNS.
IT WILL BE VERY CLEARLY MARKED LIKE PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD, HAS IT? NO PARKING ON PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD, AS SHOWN HERE.
IT'LL BE SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR FOR THE ENTRY AND TERMINUS POINTS OF SAN JUAN DRIVE.
AND YOU SEE THE RED LINE MARKED UP ON THIS ORDINANCE DRAFT.
AND THEN THIS IS A CLEAN VERSION OF THAT INDICATING THE THE VARIATION FROM PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD ORDINANCE, WHICH JUST SAYS PARKING OF NONCOMMERCIAL VEHICLES BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 5 P.M.
SIGNAGE IS SPECIFICALLY POSTED CURRENTLY BY SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.
SO THAT IS THE EXCEPTION RIGHT THERE.
FOLKS CAN STILL GET DURING THAT TIMEFRAME.
AND QUITE OFTEN PERMITS ARE ISSUED WITH THE CORRECT TRAFFIC CONTROL.
SO THAT IS OUR LATEST ORDINANCE.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
SO I'VE BEEN PART OF THE MSD MEETING TONIGHT.
I WATCHED THE PROCESS AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD ALTERNATIVE TO JUST STARTING THE SIDEWALK.
BUT MY QUESTION IS, THERE IS A BIBLE STUDY WHERE THEY HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE GO TO THE BIBLE STUDY AT TWO, TWO TIMES OF THE WEEK, AT CERTAIN TIMES, SPECIFIC TIMES, ANY WAY THEY COULD HAVE A LITTLE PLACARD THAT THEY THEY CAN PARK THERE.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT IS A DANGEROUS STREET.
I'VE BEEN DRIVING IT AND WALKING IT AND TRYING TO SEE IF WE REALLY NEED IT.
AND I REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
YEAH. THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.
SPECIFIC TO MAYBE ONE ENTITY OR ONE ADDRESS.
BUT MAYBE BETWEEN NOW AND THE FINAL, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF TWO.
SO MAYBE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT RIGHT NOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, I'M GOING TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
OKAY. WE'VE GOT PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE NOW GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
I RESIDE AT 342 SAN JUAN DRIVE.
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I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF LOVELY SAN JUAN DRIVE FOR 16 YEARS AND RAISED MY CHILDREN THERE.AND I WANT TO SAY FROM THE OUTSET THAT SAFETY IS ABSOLUTELY PARAMOUNT TO THE NUMEROUS INDIVIDUALS THAT I'VE TALKED TO THAT SIGNED PETITIONS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS BAN.
SO ANY, YOU KNOW, ANY IMPLICATION OTHERWISE WOULD BE WHOLLY ERRONEOUS.
OUR PRIMARY CONCERNS ARE THAT MANY OF US DON'T DO NOT HAVE SPACIOUS DRIVEWAYS THAT WOULD ENABLE INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR SERVICE VEHICLES FROM TWO DIFFERENT POINTS, AND AS A RESULT, GETTING IN AND OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAYS WHEN WE HAVE THE LAWN COMPANY OR WHATEVER SERVICE PROVIDER, THE HOME IS MORE THAN JUST AN INCONVENIENCE. IT PREDOMINANTLY DOES CREATE A HARDSHIP FOR US AND A SAFETY ISSUE, BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE VEHICLES HAVE LONG TRAILERS AND BECAUSE OF THE NARROWNESS OF OUR STREET, DOES PRESENT AN ISSUE AND A PROBLEM WITH SAFE INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM FROM OUR RESPECTIVE DRIVEWAYS.
I DO BELIEVE ALSO THAT MANY OF THE RESIDENTS THAT I'VE POLLED ALSO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TAKING AWAY AN AMENITY THAT OTHER STREETS IN OUR AREA HAVE AND SHARE FROM A TRAFFIC CALMING STANDPOINT, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS CLEAR LANGUAGE STATING THAT IF THE OBJECTIVE IS TO TRY TO CREATE A SAFER ENVIRONMENT, REMOVING THE OPTION OF PARKING ALONG THE STREET DOES EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE.
SO YOU KNOW IF THE TRUE INTENT IS TO TRY TO HELP MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER.
I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WELL.
AND AT THIS JUNCTURE THAT IS DISSIPATED.
SO A LOT OF THESE CONCERNS AT THIS JUNCTURE HAVE BEEN RESOLVED.
I WOULD ASK RESPECTFULLY THAT WE INDEED BAN PARKING IN CERTAIN AREAS ALONG THE GOLF COURSE, AREAS WHERE MANY, MANY NEIGHBORS HAVE VOICED CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, AND ALSO ALONG CURVED AREAS OF SAN JUAN DRIVE, WHERE THERE IS CERTAINLY AN ISSUE REGARDING OBSTRUCTION, VISIBLE OBSTRUCTION, AND ALSO BANNING OVERNIGHT PARKING AS WELL AS BANNING VEHICLES FROM PARKING DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM DRIVEWAYS.
WE ARE INDEED A CUT THROUGH AREA FOR TRAFFIC TO THE CLUB, AND VEHEMENTLY BELIEVE THAT SPEED BUMPS WOULD DETER THIS CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC AND CERTAINLY SLOW DOWN VEHICLES.
AND THESE ADDITIONAL SIGNATORIES ARE LISA LIGHTNER.
SUZANNE FRANCO AND MARK TRAVIS.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
MY NAME IS JIM MIDDLETON, AND I'VE LIVED AT 327 SAN JUAN DRIVE FOR 28 YEARS, SINCE 1996.
MY HOME IS LOCATED ON THE CUT-THROUGH BETWEEN CHRIST EPISCOPAL CHURCH AT THE CORNER OF SOLANO AND SAN JUAN DRIVE, AND THE CLUB'S PARKING LOT, LOCATED OFF OF MIRANDA ROAD.
MY HOME IS ABOUT HALFWAY BETWEEN THE CHURCH AND THE PONTE VEDRA GYM, SURF CLUB AND TENNIS COURTS.
OVER THE PAST PARTS OF FOUR DECADES THAT I'VE LIVED THERE, FROM THE 90S TO NOW, I'VE WITNESSED A MATERIAL AND DRAMATIC GROWTH IN TRAFFIC ON SAN JUAN IN FRONT OF MY HOME.
THE BEACHES TRAFFIC IS MUCH HEAVIER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT SOLANO ROAD IS THE FIRST LEFT TURN TRAFFIC LIGHT HEADING SOUTH ON A-1-A FROM BUTLER BOULEVARD, WHERE A LEFT TURN ACCESSES THE OCEAN AND THE CLUB.
EVEN MORE TRAFFIC WILL BE TRAVERSING SAN JUAN DRIVE WITH THIS BOARD'S PASSAGE LAST YEAR ESTABLISHING A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PUD GRANTED TO PONTE VEDRA INN AND CLUB IN THE LODGE, WITH INCREASED DENSITY AND NUMEROUS ENTITLEMENTS AS THE TWO CLUBS EXPAND THEIR DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT, CONSTRUCTION, COMMERCIAL AND VISITOR FUTURE TRAFFIC WILL MATERIALLY INCREASE.
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ENACTED A SIMILAR ORDINANCE IN 2021 THAT YOU HEARD TRUSTEE WESTER SPEAK TO, AND THAT HAS BEEN A VERY POSITIVE WORKING SOLUTION.
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UNLIKE THE BOULEVARD, WE DON'T HAVE A DOUBLE YELLOW LINE.UNLIKE THE BOULEVARD, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SIDEWALKS.
LET'S ADDRESS THE OPPOSITION, A CONCERN THAT WORKMEN'S VEHICLES PARKED IN THEIR DRIVEWAY WILL INCONVENIENCE A HOMEOWNERS EGRESS FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS DOESN'T OUTWEIGH THE SAFETY AND PROBLEMS THAT WALKERS, STROLLERS, BIKERS, ETC.
A SECOND COMPLAINT I HEARD IS THAT THE LAWN OR CONTRACTOR VEHICLES MAY LEAK AND STAIN THE DRIVEWAY.
IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE ORDINANCE.
I RESPECTFULLY URGE AND REQUEST THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS PASSAGE OF THIS COMMON SENSE ORDINANCE.
I WILL NOT BE HERE FOR THE SECOND READING BECAUSE OF A CONFLICT.
YES. GOOD AFTERNOON. JOHN SALUCCI, 101 OVERLOOK DRIVE, PONTE VEDRA BEACH.
I'M ALSO FINISHING UP MY EIGHTH YEAR IN THE MSD, ALONG WITH BRAD, AND WE'VE HAD THIS ITEM COME UP REPEATEDLY OVER THE OVER THAT TERM, AND WE FIND THIS IS THE BEST WAY WE'VE CONFERRED WITH MANY NEIGHBORS.
MANY ANNOUNCED MEETINGS WHERE WE ASKED PEOPLE TO COME AND WE FEEL THIS IS A THIS IS DEFINITELY THE WAY TO GO FOR SAFETY REASONS, AND ALSO BECAUSE WE THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS ALONG SAN JUAN WILL BACK THIS AS WELL.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST IF MR. WEST WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FIRST, I'M HAPPY TO ASK MY QUESTIONS.
BY ALL MEANS, IF YOU NEED TO, I CAN ADDRESS MY ONLY.
LET ME MAKE A STATEMENT FIRST.
I HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH MISS THOMAS.
I REALIZED THAT THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR SOME TIME.
AND MAYBE ON SOME OF THOSE POINTS, WE'RE AT AN IMPASSE.
AFTER TWO HEARINGS WITH THE MSD.
I WOULD JUST THIS IS A UNIQUE COMMUNITY, AND OBVIOUSLY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS AS UNIQUELY TAILORED AS POSSIBLE TO FIT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MRS. THOMAS IS DISCUSSING, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
I THINK I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF ANYTHING WAS POSSIBLE THAT SHE MENTIONED.
SO WITHOUT GETTING INTO SPECIFICS, YES I THINK COMMISSIONER JOSEPH ALSO MADE A PROFFER.
I'M UNDER TESTIMONY SAYING THAT ONE SIZE DOESN'T FIT ALL.
BUT I WILL SAY NOT ONLY AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
AND HERE, ON BEHALF OF REPRESENTING THE TRUSTEES I LIVED AT 71 SAN JUAN DRIVE DURING MY TERM AS A TRUSTEE, AND I CURRENTLY LIVE AT 628 PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD. SO I'VE SEEN THE EFFECTS OF BOTH.
AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD JUST DREAMS UP AND CREATES.
BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE MEETING MONTHLY TO COME UP WITH IDEAS.
AND SINCE MY TERM ON THAT ON THE BOARD, WE'VE GONE FROM ZERO MONEY IN THE SIDEWALK BUDGET TO SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND INCHES THE SIDEWALK BUDGET, AND WE'RE PAYING FOR SIDEWALKS ON OUR OWN NOW, BUT WE STILL COULD USE THE PRODUCT.
BUT THE GENESIS OF THIS, THIS WAS ALSO HEY, BRAD, YOU GUYS ARE DOING THIS ON PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD.
CAN'T YOU DO THIS ELSEWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY? SO ABSOLUTELY, WE CAN CRAFT IT AND TAILOR IT.
I'M SORRY, SECOND MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH AT 5:30 P.M..
AND WE'VE JUST THIS IS A LINE ITEM WE DISCUSSED ALL THE TIME, SIDEWALKS AND ROADWAYS.
AND SO THIS HAS BEEN FULLY, PUBLICLY VETTED.
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SEE BOTH. I SEE THE EFFECTS OF BOTH AND THE POSITIVITY OF HAVING THIS ORDINANCE IN PLAY.WE'RE NOT BANNING PARKING COMPLETELY.
THEY'RE STILL DUE PROCESS ALLOWED FOR PARKING ON SAN JUAN DRIVE.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST TAILORING IT TO THE MOST CONGESTED KIND OF WEEKDAY HOURS, FROM 7 A.M.
THE SPACIOUS DRIVEWAYS PONTE VEDRA HAS WORKED AT THAT SAME ISSUE.
IT HAS BEEN THAT SAME WAY ON A COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY, I.E.
AND SO THEY DO HAVE DIFFERENT MERITS TO EACH, BUT THEY STILL ARE SERVED FOR SAFE CIRCULATION.
AND IN THE CASE OF SAN JUAN DRIVE, THERE IS NO DESIGNATED BIKE LANE.
THERE IS NO DESIGNATED SIDEWALK WHATSOEVER.
THERE'S NOT EVEN A PHYSICALLY A SIDEWALK THERE.
SO FOLKS, INGRESSING AND EGRESSING DRIVEWAYS ON SAN JUAN DRIVE, THE FOLKS DRIVING AND WALKING ALONG SAN JUAN DRIVE ARE SHOULD BE AFFORDED THAT SAME SAFETY. AND I'M A FIRM BELIEVER THAT A LOT OF THESE TRADES ARE MASTERS IN THEIR CRAFT WHEN THEY DRIVE TRUCKS AND PARK TRAILERS AND WHATEVER ELSE.
AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB ON ON PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD OF PARKING IN THE DRIVEWAYS THAT THEY SERVE.
AND WE JUST ASK FOR THE SAME THING TO EXIST THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
SAN JUAN DRIVE IS NOT LIKE LEMASTER OR RUTILE OR OTHER PLACES.
THOSE HAVE 2220 FOUR FOOT WIDE PAVEMENT STRETCHES WITH CURBS AND GUTTERS.
SAN JUAN DRIVE DOES NOT HAVE THAT.
IT GOES DOWN TO 19, 20, 21.5 JUST FLOWS RIGHT INTO THE GRASS FOR THE MOST PART.
BUT THAT'S GENERALLY THE CHARACTER.
IT'S A MUCH OLDER KIND OF ROADWAY, UNLIKE SOME OTHER STREETS IN THE AREA.
WE DO HAVE NO PARKING SIGNS ON THE GOLF COURSE AREAS.
WE WORK CLOSELY WITH COUNTY ADMINISTRATION ON THAT.
FROM JUST KIND OF MORE OF A CLUTTER, PEOPLE PARKING THERE AND WALKING TO THE BEACHES, BUT THEY'VE LEAVING ALL KINDS OF DEBRIS AND TRASH, AND IT'S REALLY UNSAFE BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST PULL OUT INTO TRAFFIC. AND THERE'S REALLY NO KIND OF STANDARD AS FAR AS ENGINEERING SPEED BUMPS.
AFTER THE WATERLINE PROJECT AND RESURFACING.
AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE SPEED BUMPS.
I WOULD THINK SPEED BUMPS WOULD BE FROWNED UPON WAY MORE THAN JUST A LIMITATION ON SOME PARKING ON THE ON THE ON THE SAN JUAN DRIVE RIGHT NOW, WE DO HAVE FEEDBACK SIGNS ON THAT DRIVE ON THE SAN JUAN DRIVE THAT SHOWS YOUR SPEED LIMIT REFLECTING, AND IT HELPS KIND OF KEEP SPEED IN CHECK.
BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, MR. MIDDLETON SAID, THERE'S NO STRIPING ON.
THERE'S NO DOUBLE STRIPE ALONG SAN JUAN DRIVE.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT CHARACTER AND CONTEXT.
SO I THINK IN CONTEXT OF ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH, WE'VE HAD THE COUNTY AND WE ALSO EMPLOY OUR OWN OFF DUTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OFFICERS TO COME AND HELP POLICE OUR COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND THE NORMAL POLICING THAT THEY WOULD DO.
SO WE HAVE AN OFF DUTY SERVICE CONTRACT WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO COME, AND THE SHERIFFS, AND THEY'RE NOW STARTING TO KIND OF GET IN ROTATION WITH FOLKS SERVING OUR COMMUNITY THAT IT'S COMMUNITY POLICING.
PEOPLE KNOW THEM, THEY KNOW OUR RESIDENTS, AND IT'S WORKED OUT BEAUTIFULLY.
I SAY THAT BECAUSE THEY REPORT TO US AT THE MSD MEETINGS ON A MONTHLY BASIS, AND THEY REPORT TO US ALL THE STATS IN OUR COMMUNITY, FROM COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO TICKETS TO WARNINGS TO FELONY ARRESTS, TO LICENSE PLATE READER CHASES, TO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING GOING ON, INCLUDING TRAFFIC CONGESTION.
THEY'RE SO CLOSELY TIED TO US AND EVEN AS TRUSTEES.
BUT RESIDENTS AND I THINK THE RESIDENTS CAN ATTEST TO THIS INCLUDING MISS THOMAS, THEY HAVE DIRECT LINE OF COMMUNICATION, WHICH IS NOT ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY, WHERE YOU CAN EMAIL, TEXT YOUR OWN POLICE THAT ARE IN YOUR COMMUNITIES, WHICH IS GREAT.
HEY, THERE'S A GOLF CART PARKED WHERE IT SHOULDN'T BE.
THERE'S A CAR PARKED HERE. THERE'S A CAR HANGING OUT OVER A STOP SIGN.
SO I ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL.
SO WE'LL WORK WITH YOU. I CAN'T PROMISE ANYTHING, BUT WE'LL TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME NEW LANGUAGE.
BUT THIS HAS BEEN FULLY VETTED AND IT'S BEEN NO JOKE.
THREE YEARS WORTH OF OF BACK AND FORTH AND DISCUSSION.
AND EVERY SINGLE MONTH WE HAVE THIS AS A LINE ITEM TO DISCUSS.
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THANK YOU, MR. WESTER.YOU'RE WELCOME. I ALSO HAVE SPOKEN WITH MISS THOMAS AND RECEIVED A LOT OF CORRESPONDENCE FROM RESIDENTS ON SAN JUAN WHO DO THINK THIS IS A LITTLE BIT TOO STRINGENT, WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE KIND OF THREADING THE NEEDLE AS, AS MISS THOMAS HAS SUGGESTED? ALLOWING SHOULD THERE BE A SPONTANEOUS GET TOGETHER ALLOWING THOSE VEHICLES TO PARK, ALLOWING THE SERVICE VEHICLES TO PARK? I WOULD JUST LOVE TO SEE IF THERE IS A WAY TO MAYBE LESSEN THE REQUIREMENTS JUST A BIT, AND TRY AND THREAD THAT NEEDLE.
SO, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, I JUST HAD A CONSTITUENT TEXT ME BECAUSE THEY'RE WATCHING OUT THERE.
BUT THEY ASKED, CAN YOU DO IT ONE WAY NORTH? I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT. SO WITHOUT BEING, YOU KNOW, ON THE PODIUM, JUST ON THE FLY HERE WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO CHANGE IT.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO SAY HI TO THE CONSTITUENTS WATCHING.
BUT WE'VE WORKED HARD ON THIS.
AND ONE ITERATION WAS WE HAD THIS ALMOST SHOEHORNED JUST LIKE THE POINT OF VIEW BOULEVARD ORDINANCE.
AND WE REALIZED THAT THE THE RESIDENTS AND INPUT AND YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THE RECORD OF THAT.
SOME ARE REPRESENTED BY COUNCIL.
WE CAME IN AND WE PROFFERED BACK AND WE SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RIGHT.
THE ONE THING THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE FOR OUR, OUR, OUR OFFICERS OUT THERE WAS TO MAKE THIS NOT SO CONVOLUTED THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO FLIP THROUGH A MANUAL DEPENDING ON WHAT ROADWAY THEY DRIVE ON IN PONTE VEDRA TO SAY, OH, GEEZ, WHAT ROAD ARE WE ON NOW? WHAT WHAT ORDINANCE APPLIES, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT TOO.
AND WE'VE STATED THIS ON THE RECORD.
WE JUST REAFFIRMED THIS VOTE LAST NIGHT AT THE MSD.
WE PLEDGE IF THIS ISN'T WORKING, OKAY, EVEN AFTER NOVEMBER 19TH, HOWEVER, THE VOTE SHAKES OUT.
IF THIS ISN'T WORKING, WE CAN ALWAYS AMEND IT, RIGHT? WE CAN ALWAYS AMEND IT. THIS ISN'T IN PERPETUITY.
WE CAN ADJUST IT. IF IT'S AN HOURS THING, IT'S A DAY THING.
IF IT'S A ONE WAY THING, WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE ON NOVEMBER 19TH, SO MY ONLY COMMENT I CAN MAKE ON THIS ISSUE IS TODAY, AND I HAVE A THOUGHT IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION.
BUT I'M SITTING HERE WONDERING, YOU KNOW, SAN JUAN IS NOT A FIVE MILE STREET.
IT'S PROBABLY A MILE, A MILE AND A QUARTER.
I THINK MAYBE I'M OFF A LITTLE BIT.
TWO MILES. WHY NOT ASK THE RESIDENTS? DO A SURVEY? WE DID SURVEYS TO FIND OUT WHETHER THEY WANTED AN MCU ON THE NINE MILES OF BEACHFRONT.
WHY NOT DO A SURVEY OF THE HOMEOWNERS? AND WHAT? AND LET THE MAJORITY RULE? JUST A THOUGHT TO THINK ABOUT.
OKAY, WELL, WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES, I GUESS, THE FIRST READING OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.
[9. Public Hearing * SJC Acquisitions, LLC - Brownfield Designation. The Florida Brownfields Redevelopment Act, sections 37677- 376.85, Florida Statutes, requires the local government with jurisdiction over a proposed brownfield area to designate such area, by resolution, pursuant to the administrative process and criteria set forth in the Act. The primary goals of the Brownfields Redevelopment Act are to reduce public health and environmental hazards on existing commercial and industrial sites that are abandoned or underused, create financial and regulatory incentives to encourage voluntary cleanup and redevelopment of sites, and derive appropriate cleanup target levels. SJC Acquisitions, LLC is requesting a resolution designating approximately 39.60 acres of real property off Agricultural Center Drive (parcel nos. 095574-0010 and 095574-0020) in unincorporated St. Johns County a Brownfield Area as authorized under the Florida Brownfields Redevelopment Act. The property was previously used as a gun range and for agricultural uses which may have resulted in elevated concentrations of lead, other metals, and contaminants. SJC Acquisitions plans to conduct further assessment and remediation activities on the Property to achieve regulatory site closure from the Florida Department of Environmental Protection. SJC Acquisitions is pursuing the Brownfield designation to benefit from the State of Florida’s Voluntary Cleanup Tax Credit program and cleanup liability protection from the State.]
IT'S ALWAYS ROUGH FOLLOWING UP.BRAD WESTER, TREY MILLS, ONE INDEPENDENT DRIVE, SUITE 1200.
I THIS IS I KNOW A LITTLE BIT OF A NEW TYPE ISSUE FOR Y'ALL.
IT'S A BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION.
AND I THINK YOU'VE HAD ONE BEFORE YOU BEFORE.
AND THAT WAS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, WHICH THIS IS NOT.
SO I WAS HOPING TODAY THAT THIS WAS THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THE SECOND ONE WILL BE NOVEMBER 5TH.
SO MY HOPE TODAY WAS TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF KIND OF THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT.
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SO THAT SORT OF THING. SO THIS PROPERTY, DID YOU SEE THAT MAP? I, OF COURSE, DID NOT BRING A MAP.AND MISS WEST BEING A FANTASTIC.
SO THANK YOU. SO THIS PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 40 ACRES.
IT'S THE OLD ANCIENT CITY GUN RANGE.
AND ALONG WITH A COMPANION LAND USE AMENDMENT AND IN THAT IT WAS REZONED TO A PUD THAT ALLOWS I THINK IT'S APPROXIMATELY 310,000FT² OF, OF FLEXIBLE WAREHOUSE INDUSTRIAL SPACE.
SO YOU GO TO A GUN RANGE IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO ONE, YOU HAVE TARGETS.
YOU HAVE A BIG BERM BEHIND THERE.
SO MY CLIENT SJC ACQUISITION INTENDS TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY PURSUANT TO THE, THE PUD.
THAT WAS BEFORE YOU ALL LAST YEAR.
BUT IN DOING SO, THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO CLEAN UP SOME OF THE LEAD CONTAMINATION.
AND, AND WE HAVEN'T SAMPLED THIS PROPERTY YET.
I AM, I'VE WORKED ON PROBABLY 5 OR 6 OF THESE TYPE SITES IN THE PAST, ALMOST GUARANTEED THAT IT HAS LEAD CONTAMINATION AND THOSE BERMS, AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF DID THE BERMS MOVE OVER TIME? BECAUSE WHAT YOU END UP SEEING IS WE HAVE A BERM HERE.
YOU GET SOME HEAVY EQUIPMENT, MOVE THAT BERM AND YOU SPREAD THE LEAD IMPACTS.
SO WE HAVE IN PLACE A PLAN TO SAMPLE 180 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ON THIS FOR SOIL SAMPLES.
THEY'LL LOOK AT EVERYTHING, BUT REALLY WE'RE LOOKING FOR LEAD AND SOME OTHER METALS.
BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY, THE BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION PROCESS ITSELF.
WE HAVE TWO. WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE COUNTY, WITH THE HOPE THAT THE COUNTY WILL ENACT A RESOLUTION STATING THAT, YEAH, WE RECOGNIZE THIS AS A BROWNFIELD SITE, AND IT'S AND IT'S APPROPRIATE TO BE IN THE PROGRAM.
AFTER THAT, I TAKE IT TO STATE DEP AND THE PROPERTY OWNER ENTERS INTO A BROWNFIELD SITE REHABILITATION AGREEMENT WITH THE DEP. AND WHAT THAT AGREEMENT DOES IS, NUMBER ONE, IT OBLIGATES THE PROPERTY OWNER TO TO CLEAN UP ANY CONTAMINATION THAT'S THERE PURSUANT TO DEP REGULATIONS.
SO YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
IT ALSO GIVES US THE ABILITY TO GET SOME STATE CORPORATE INCOME TAX, TAX REIMBURSEMENT FOR FOR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SITE REHABILITATION.
SO ANNUALLY, WHAT YOU DO IS WHATEVER WORK YOU'VE COMPLETED IN THE PREVIOUS CALENDAR YEAR, YOU SUBMIT AN APPLICATION IN AND YOU GET SOME OF THOSE CORPORATE INCOME TAX CREDITS BACK.
THIS IS JUST SIMPLY A PRESENT.
PRESENT THIS TO YOU WITH THE HOPE THAT YOU'LL PRESENT.
GIVE US A RESOLUTION THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT NEEDS TO BE A BROWNFIELD.
SO THAT'S THAT'S THE PROGRAM IN A NUTSHELL.
I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE HAD A LONG DAY, SO I CAN ANSWER AS MANY QUESTIONS AS YOU WANT.
I LOVE TALKING BROWNFIELD STUFF, SO I KNOW THAT'S NERDY, BUT SORRY, KEELEY.
I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF A FIRST FIRST TIME AROUND, SO I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER.
ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU, MR. MILLS. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER DEANE? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE GO MUCH FURTHER.
KEELEY, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION AND GO FORWARD.
DO YOU SEE ANY POSSIBLE DOWNSIDE OR LIABILITY TO THE COUNTY THROUGH THE CHAIR TO COMMISSIONER DEANE? NO, I DO NOT. WE SPECIFICALLY WRITE INTO THE RESOLUTION THAT THE COUNTY WILL, BY DESIGNATING THIS A BROWNFIELD, ACCEPTS NO LIABILITY.
EVEN IF WE WERE TO PURCHASE IT, THE LIABILITY REMAINS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.
OKAY. I JUST WANTED THAT ON THE RECORD.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DEANE. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.
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JOSEPH. NO. SO THE REZONING HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT UNDER THE BROWNFIELDS PROGRAM.
OKAY. WITH THAT, LET'S HEAR SOME PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.
JOE MCINERNEY 1005 BLACKBERRY LANE.
AND COMMISSIONER DEANE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR QUESTION.
WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS EARLIER.
SO LOOK, I THINK AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TOO SOON.
AND WE JUST HEARD THAT THEY HAVE NOT YET TAKEN SAMPLES.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTY IS.
THERE'S A GUESS THAT IT COULD BE HAVE LEAD CONTAMINATION, COULD HAVE LEAD CONTAMINATION.
SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY SAY, ASK THAT YOU NOT HERE THIS NOT PASS A RESOLUTION, BUT BUT REQUEST THAT THIS APPLICANT GO BACK, TAKE THEIR SAMPLES AND FACTUALLY ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THIS SITE IS.
THAT YES, THERE IS LEAD CONTAMINATION AND COME TO YOU WITH THAT PROFESSIONAL EXPERT INFORMATION.
I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THEY ARE ASKING YOU TO TAKE THE FIRST STEP HERE BY DECLARING THIS A BROWNFIELD SITE.
I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING LET'S DON'T TAKE ALL THE STEPS.
LET'S DON'T FOLLOW THE STATE STATUTES.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S A SEQUENCE.
HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S A BROWNFIELD? HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S LEAD? YOU'RE BELIEVING SOMEONE WHO HAS COME COME IN FRONT OF YOU.
BETTER TO HAVE THAT EXPERT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU.
I WOULD EITHER DENY THIS OR I DON'T.
ED SLAVIN, BOX 308 FOR ED SLAVIN.
COM. THIS REQUEST IS INCOMPLETE.
IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SOIL ARE, WHY ARE WE EVEN CONSIDERING IT? ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE GOT A DEVELOPER RUSHING TO GET SOMETHING THROUGH THIS COMMISSION BECAUSE TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS WILL TAKE OFFICE ON NOVEMBER 19TH.
FURTHERMORE A VERY WISE MAN, CHIEF JUDGE NAHUM LIT MY MENTOR, THE CHIEF JUDGE OF THE U.S.
I'M SORRY, 1995 TO 1990, 1995 TO 1998.
FOR 16 YEARS, HE WAS CHIEF JUDGE OF THE LABOR DEPARTMENT FROM 95 UNTIL 9890.
HE SAID YOU SHOULD ALWAYS ASK CUI BONO WHO BENEFITS? WHO ARE THE BENEFICIAL OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY? WHEN YOU LOOK UP THE LLC ON SUNDAYS, IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHO OWNS IT.
SO UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE 112, OUR COMMISSIONERS HAVE A DUTY TO AVOID CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.
HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY KNOW IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IF WE'RE NOT TOLD WHO OWNS THIS DADGUM PROPERTY AND WHO OWNS THIS DADGUM LLC? IT MAKES NO SENSE.
WHAT'S THE HURRY? WHY THE INFORMATION DEARTH HERE.
OUR SAINT JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS LACKS A CONCERN FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION.
WE NOW HAVE EIGHT PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE.
EIGHT USED TO BE ONE, AND THEY'RE NOT HELPING US WITH INFORMATION.
WE MAKE RECORDS REQUESTS, AND WE GET STIFFED AND IGNORED OR OVERCHARGED.
WHO OWNS THIS PROPERTY? AND TALKING ABOUT BROWNFIELDS, LET ME TELL YOU, THE WORST EXAMPLE I'VE EVER SEEN IS LOCATED VERY CLOSE TO THIS COMMISSION BUILDING.
THE THE THE PONCE DE LEON GOLF COURSE DESIGNED BY DONALD ROSS.
I'M SURE COMMISSIONER DEAN HAS PLAYED THERE.
DESTROYED BY A SPECULATOR FROM JACKSONVILLE NAMED CHESTER STOKES.
HE GOT APPROVAL BY THE SAINT AUGUSTINE CITY COMMISSION TO ANNEX THE PROPERTY AND DESTROY IT.
AND THEN HE COMES IN WITH HIS HAT IN HIS HANDS AND SAYS, OH, THE PROPERTY IS CONTAMINATED.
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MY NAME IS JIMMY.IT'S THE KIND OF MONEY THAT REAL PEOPLE EARN AND PAY THEIR TAXES WITH, AND PAY THE OBNOXIOUS SALES TAXES THAT, THANK GOD, THE PEOPLE OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY REJECTED YOUR DUMB OLD SALES TAX INCREASE 63% OF THE VOTE.
ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I THINK WE JUST NOTICED THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024.
IF I HAVE, CAN I JUST ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS REAL QUICK.
ALL RIGHT. BY ALL MEANS, AND I APOLOGIZE, I'M.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS TWO FOLKS LEAVING THE COMMISSION.
BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO BROWNFIELD SITES.
IT DOESN'T HAVE. YOU DON'T I DON'T THE THE JOB.
MY JOB ISN'T TO COME AND TELL YOU THAT.
IF WE HAD SOME, I'D GIVE IT TO YOU.
WE'RE COLLECTING 180 SOIL SAMPLES AT SIGNIFICANT COST.
AND THE REASON WE'RE DOING THAT IS BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S WE KNOW IT'S CONTAMINATED.
SO THAT WOULD BE WE PRESENT THESE ALL THE TIME.
ALL THE TIME TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE DATA YET, BUT WE KNOW THERE'S EITHER A PERCEPTION OUT THERE THAT IT'S CONTAMINATED OR WE'RE WE'RE FAIRLY CERTAIN IT'S CONTAMINATED. AND THIS FALLS KIND OF IN BOTH OF THOSE BOXES.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP TO YOU ALL.
WELL, LET ME JUST QUICKLY ADD, IF I MAY.
I VERY, VERY SELDOM EVER DISAGREE WITH MY GOOD FRIEND JOE.
BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, AND I'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE WITH BROWNFIELDS IN MY PREVIOUS LIFE, AND IT'S REALLY UP TO DEP TO DO THE RESEARCH AND THE STUDIES AND THE TESTS TO DETERMINE IT'S NOT THE APPLICANT'S REQUIREMENT, IT'S THE REASON YOU APPLY FOR A BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION IS TO WORK WITH THE DEP.
AND THEY SET FORTH THE TESTING, THE PROGRAM, HOW IT WILL WORK, AND THEN SIGN OFF WHEN IT IS PROVEN TO BE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND GETS DONE.
ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ENVIRONMENTAL OR ECONOMIC PROJECTS IN THE SOUTHEAST WAS THE OLD, OLD CLOSED STEEL MILL IN ATLANTA, JUST SOUTH OF GEORGIA TECH.
AND MY FRIEND THAT ED MENTIONED, JOHN HENRY HANKINSON, IS EPA REGION FOUR ADMINISTRATOR, WORKED WITH A DEVELOPER NAMED JIM JACOBI, WHO BOUGHT MARINELAND AS AN ASIDE AND DEVELOPED ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL MIXED USE PROJECTS IN THE SOUTHEAST, KNOWN AS ATLANTIC STATION.
SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE BEEN THERE, SO I'M VERY CONFIDENT AS I HEAD INTO THE SUNSET TO ADVISE YOU, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, THAT THIS IS A VERY APPROPRIATE REQUEST.
I WOULD SUPPORT IT WHEN IT COMES BACK.
AND ALSO I WOULD SAY THAT I HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT MEMORY OF HOW MADEIRA WAS DEVELOPED PRIOR TO THE PONCE DE LEON GOLF COURSE, WHICH REALLY WAS THE PROBLEM THAT CREATED THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM.
YOU USE A LOT OF ARSENIC ON GOLF COURSES, AND THAT WAS THE THAT WAS THE PROBLEM BEFORE MR. STOKES BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, JUST FYI.
THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN.
OKAY. WITH THAT, WE'RE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN.
[10. Consider appointments to the Library Advisory Board. Currently, there are (2) two vacancies on the Library Advisory Board due to expired terms of Catherine St. Jean, Dist. 3 Rep., and John Cellucci, Dist. 4 Rep. A vacancy ad was placed and ran for (30) days. Please see attached for your review and consideration, a recommendation letter and (7) applications: Paul Morris Dist. 3, Heather Shaw-Stillman Dist. 3, Erin Nilon Dist. 3, Luis Miguel Dist. 3, Melissa Jurgens Dist. 4, Kristi Vega Dist. 4, John Cellucci Dist. 4.]
GOOD AFTERNOON. JOANNE SPENCER, SENIOR ASSISTANT TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.I'M HERE TODAY WITH ITEM TEN AND 11.
NUMBER TEN IS AGENDA ITEM TO CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD.
THERE WERE TWO VACANCIES DUE TO EXPIRED TERMS. AND THEY ARE SPECIFIC TO DISTRICT THREE AND DISTRICT FOUR.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM IF I CAN.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS SPENCER? OKAY. LET'S HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN.
PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME.
ADDRESS? YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
YES. GOOD AFTERNOON. JOHN SALUCCI, 101 OVERLOOK DRIVE, PONTE VEDRA BEACH.
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I'M ASKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTING ME TO A SECOND FOUR YEAR TERM.AND THE BOARD ITSELF BECAME VERY COHESIVE AND VERY EFFECTIVE.
WE SHOW UP AT BUDGET MEETINGS.
WE SHOW UP AT FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY MEETINGS, WE SHOW UP AT THESE MEETINGS.
MY MAIN THING IS, IS A NAVY VETERAN IS I BOUGHT ADVOCATED SEVERAL VETERANS INITIATIVES. ONE OF THEM WAS BRAINFUSE.
THAT HELP GIVES A LOT OF ASSISTANCE TO FOLKS NEEDING RESUME BUILDERS SCHOOL, THOSE KINDS OF ADVICE.
ALSO, THE LIBRARY HAS DONE A NICE THING FOR VETERANS DAY, WHICH IS COMING UP.
THANKS TO DEBORAH GIBSON'S LEADERSHIP.
SO WITH ALL THAT, I'D LIKE TO PLEASE BE APPOINTED TO A SECOND FOUR YEAR TERM.
ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY. THAT BRINGS US BACK TO THE BOARD.
SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO.
THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECOND MOTION? YEAH. MOTION TO APPOINT LUIS MIGUEL TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD FOR FULL FOUR YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE OCTOBER 15TH, 2028.
AND I DO HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT HIM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR IT.
SURE. I'M WAITING ON A SECOND.
I'LL SECOND IT JUST FOR THE OKAY TO DISCUSSION.
NO, I WAS JUST IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION SOME SOME HISTORY ON MR. MIGUEL. OKAY, SO I WAS TOLD WHAT IT WAS.
YEAH. YES. THAT, YOU KNOW, HE HAD JANUARY 6TH OR SOMETHING ON HIS FACEBOOK PAGE.
I HAVE TALKED TO JOHN CELLUCCI AND TO THE HEAD OF THE HEAD OF THE LIBRARY, AND ALL OF US KIND OF AGREE THAT THERE'S SEVEN PEOPLE ON THE ADVISORY BOARD, AND HE HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN THE OTHER SIX.
SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT ISN'T GOING TO AFFECT ANYTHING EXCEPT BRING MORE DIVERSITY TO THE BOARD.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.
I DID MY OWN RESEARCH AND IT WASN'T JANUARY 6TH.
WHAT I SAW WERE ACTUAL VIOLENT THREATS AGAINST PEOPLE THAT MR. MIGUEL MADE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I'M ALL FOR OPPOSING VIEWPOINTS, BUT I CAN'T GET BEHIND SOMEBODY WITH EXTREMIST VIOLENT TENDENCIES.
I JUST I'M THAT'S THAT'S A THAT'S A BRIDGE TOO FAR FOR ME.
SO I WILL BE NOT VOTING FOR MR. MIGUEL. I THINK IT JUST PUTS THE COUNTY IN AN UNNECESSARY RISKY.
I DIDN'T I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT AT ALL.
OH, WELL, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, SO I'M LOST IN THE DUST.
OKAY. COMMISSIONER OF THIS ISSUE.
AND THEN I'M. I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION IF I.
THERE'S ALREADY A MOTION IN A SECOND WE'RE DISCUSSING.
WELL, I'M. WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THAT MOTION.
AND IF IT DOESN'T PASS, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION.
IS THAT CLEAR? I JUST I JUST HAVE A COMMISSIONER ON THIS TOPIC.
SO. SO IN ALL FAIRNESS TO TO LUIS AND MIGUEL, I'VE MET HIM AND HE'S BEEN NOTHING BUT NICE TO ME.
BUT JUST SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.
LUIS MIGUEL RAN FOR STATE HOUSE BACK IN 2022.
AND THIS IS THE THE TWEET AT THE TIME THAT GOT HIM INTO TROUBLE.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE FOCUS OF THE CONVERSATION UP HERE.
IT SAYS AND I'M QUOTING UNDER MY PLAN, ALL FLORIDIANS WILL HAVE PERMISSION TO SHOOT FBI, IRS, ATF AND ALL OTHER FEDS AND ALL CAPS ON SITE.
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AND THAT WAS SIGNED LUIS MIGUEL REPUBLICAN FOR FLORIDA HOUSE.SO IT'S IT'S NOT JANUARY 6TH JUST FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE INTERESTED.
IT'S NOT THAT THERE IS A SLIGHTLY OPPOSING VIEWPOINT.
THIS IS A PLAN BY A CANDIDATE FOR STATE HOUSE TO ALLOW FLORIDIANS TO SHOOT FBI, IRS, AND ATF AGENTS ON SITE. AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S OBVIOUSLY VERY TROUBLING.
MAYBE HE DIDN'T MEAN IT. MAYBE HE'S HE'S MADE A RETRACTION.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO SUPPORT SOMEBODY LIKE THAT FOR A BOARD LIKE THIS.
WHEN THOSE COMMENTS WERE MADE, YOU KNOW, JUST TWO YEARS AGO.
SO I CANNOT SUPPORT MR. MIGUEL FOR THIS, FOR THIS BOARD.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. COMMISSIONER LIMO, THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. SO YEAH, I'M WITH YOU.
BUT I DID WANT TO SECOND IT JUST FOR DISCUSSION.
SO OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE VOTE.
AND THAT MOTION FAILS I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO.
NUMBER 11 IS CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THERE IS ONE VACANCY DUE TO THE RESIGNATION OF LINDSEY RODIA.
[11. Consider appointment to the Affordable Housing Advisory Committee (AHAC). Currently, there is one (1) vacancy on the Affordable Housing Committee due to the resignation of Lindsey Rodea. A vacancy ad was placed and ran for (30) days. Please find attached for your review and consideration a recommendation letter from AHAC and (6) applications; Randolph Jones Dist. 3, Paul Morris Dist. 3, Marvell Ford Dist. 3, Laila Iarossi Dist. 4, Polly Crabtree Dist. 5, Barb Puryear Dist. 5. Presenter: Rich Komando, Interim County Attorney]
I DID RUN THIS AD FOR 30 DAYS.I GOT SIX QUALIFIED APPLICATIONS.
THIS WILL BE A PARTIAL TERM JUST TO JUST TO FILL OUT HER REMAINING TERM.
OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, I HAVE INCLUDED THOSE SIX APPLICATIONS.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS SPENCER? OKAY, LET'S HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11.
ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY, WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD. COMMISSIONER LIMO.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU, MISS SPENCER.
OKAY. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, MR. KOMANDO. GOOD AFTERNOON.
[12. Public Hearing * St. Johns County Administrator Ordinance Amendment. Second Reading to reinstate and amend Ordinance 2010-47 to require a majority plus one vote of the Board of County Commissioners to further change any of the provisions of this St. Johns County Administrator Ordinance. The Purpose of this Ordinance is to provide for a form of County administration that best assures the adequate and efficient provision of services to the citizens of St. Johns County, Florida; provide for coordinated administration of County departments to better protect the health, welfare, safety and quality of life of the residents of St. Johns County, Florida; and place in the hands of a County Administrator the multitude of details which must necessarily arise from the operation of the County as a unit of local government and thus, enable the Board of County Commissioners to perform, without unnecessary interruption, its fundamental intended purpose of making policies and providing direction to the County Administrator pertaining to administration within the framework of law applicable to County government in this state. Further, the purpose of this Ordinance is to provide a structure for the economic and efficient conduct of County affairs by making the County Administrator responsible for handling all matters necessary to accomplish and bring to fruition the policies and directives established by the Board of County Commissioners.]
ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR DOESN'T ACTUALLY MAKE ANY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES RELATED TO THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, OTHER THAN HOW THE ORDINANCE COULD BE AMENDED IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU, MR. KOMANDO. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. KOMANDO? OKAY.NOW. OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.
STATE YOUR NAME. ADDRESS? YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
JOE MCINERNEY, 1005 BLACKBERRY LANE.
FOUR PLUS FOUR PLUS VOTE IN THE ADMINISTRATOR'S CONTRACT.
THAT'S TRUE. AND THAT THIS IS A PERFUNCTORY CHANGE THAT WOULD DO THAT IN THE ORDINANCE.
SO I DID READ THROUGH BOTH ORDINANCES.
THEY WERE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM.
I EXPECTED TO SEE MANY, MANY RED LINES THROUGH THE EXISTING AND THE NEW.
THERE WERE NO RED LINES THROUGH THE EXISTING WHICH DID CATCH ME BY SURPRISE.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE ALSO REQUIRES A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE TO TERMINATE A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND WHAT IS PROPOSED TODAY REALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A MAJORITY VOTE TO TERMINATE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, SO THAT MANY OF US HEARD THAT, OR BELIEVE THAT, OR THAT PERHAPS ANY OF YOU DID TOO, IS JUST NOT TRUE.
WHAT WAS DIFFERENT ABOUT TODAY'S ORDINANCE IS AND YOU GO ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF OF THE NEW ORDINANCE, IT REVISES SECTION NINE AND ADDS A NEW SENTENCE, SECTION NINE ON PAGE FIVE THAT SAYS ANY SUBSEQUENT OR FUTURE AMENDMENTS TO THIS SAINT
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JOHNS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ORDINANCE SHALL BE MADE ONLY BY A MAJORITY PLUS ONE VOTE.SO WE'RE NOT HERE TALKING ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATOR'S CONTRACT AT ALL.
WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT A NEW SENTENCE THAT'S BEEN ADDED TO THIS EXISTING ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT YOU CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING IN THIS ORDINANCE IN THE FUTURE WITHOUT A MAJORITY VOTE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TO CONSIDER.
IT DOES ADD A BRAND NEW SECTION, SECTION TEN, WHICH IS CALLED CONFLICT.
AND IT SAYS THAT ANY OTHER ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT WITH THIS NEW ORDINANCE ARE HEREWITH REPEALED.
I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S NO LIST.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT ALSO SAYS ANY REFERENCES TO CURRENT FLORIDA STATUTE SHALL REMAIN CONSISTENT WITH THOSE STATUTES, SHOULD THEY BE AMENDED OR RENUMBERED.
THERE'S USUALLY SOME GENERAL LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU FOLLOW FLORIDA STATUTES.
SO I HAVE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS AN EDUCATION FOR ME BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, BEING PUT IN FRONT OF US TO CONSIDER THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR'S CONTRACT SAYS IT WILL TAKE A MAJORITY VOTE OF FOUR.
SO LET'S MAKE SURE THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT TO THE ORDINANCE ALREADY DOES.
SO WE'RE NOT HERE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
FOR THAT I AM CONCERNED, I HAVE TO SAY, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU NOT ADOPT THIS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE NEW SENTENCE THAT SAYS ANY SUBSEQUENT OR FUTURE AMENDMENTS NEED THE VOTE OF FOUR.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATES.
IF IT TOOK SO LONG FOR THE THE COUNTY TO GO THROUGH AND DEFINE A NEW ADMINISTRATOR, AND IT TOOK THE ADMINISTRATOR MONTHS TO DO UP THE CONTRACT, WHY IS IT YEARS AFTER THAT THAT THIS AMENDMENT IS BEING REINSTATED? WHO'S WHOSE THOUGHT PROCESS IS THAT? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S IT'S LIKE THIS COVER, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT NOTHING TO REINFORCE.
IT'S. WHY DID IT TAKE THAT LONG FOR THIS COUNTY COMMISSION TO COME UP WITH THIS, REINSTATE THIS THIS ITEM HERE.
I KNOW WHAT IT IS. EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT IT IS STANDING ON THIS SIDE.
IT'S JUST A IT'S JUST A POINT OF THE MATTER OF OF TRYING TO REINFORCE OF THE OUTDOOR OR POLICIES THAT COVER AS YOU'RE GOING OUT THE DOOR.
OKAY. THIS IS A IS A GOOD ESSENCE OF WHAT THE COUNTY IS.
IF IT TOOK SO LONG FOR THE CONTRACT TO GET DONE UP, WHY DOES IT TAKE THIS LONG NOW? AND WHY IS IT NOW AT THIS TIME FRAME IN THE YEAR? OH, MAYBE BECAUSE AUGUST 20TH HAD A WAS A BAD DAY.
SO THAT'S WHAT MY YOU KNOW, AND I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT.
IF WE HAD THE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY GALLONS OF ICE CREAM WAS OUT THERE IN THE LOBBY ON THAT DAY.
OKAY. THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SEE HOW THIS COUNTY COMMISSION IS GOING.
WHEN YOU HAVE ALL FIVE DIFFERENT ICE CREAMS, YOU HAVE A COUNTY COMMISSION OR THE ADMINISTRATOR DO UP THE CONTRACT MONTHS LATER, BEING REFERRED TO AS A SELECTING LIKE A PITCHER IN THE NBA OR THE MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL ABOUT HOW YOU WANT THE BEST.
AND IF THEY'RE STILL THE BEST.
YEARS LATER, THIS CAN BE REINSTATED.
WHEN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS FIRST APPOINTED.
HOW ABOUT THAT? WHY WASN'T IT DONE THEN? WHY WASN'T IT DONE WITH THE PREVIOUS? HE WOULD HAVE STAYED.
THINK SO? THINK HE WOULD HAVE GOT VOTED OUT, YOU KNOW.
WHY NOT? WHY NOT? WHY WASN'T HE HAVE THE SAME ITEM FOR HIM? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
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HEAD SLAVE IN BOX 3084 AT SLATE.COM.IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.
IT AIN'T BROKE. WHAT ARE WE FIXING? WE'RE FIXING WHAT EXACTLY? THE LEARNED COUNCIL HASN'T EXPLAINED WHY THIS IS HERE.
I UNDERSTAND THE CHAIR IS THE ONE WHO REQUESTED THIS.
NOW, DO I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY THAT THIS ORDINANCE, IF ADOPTED, WOULD SAY THAT YOU NEEDED FOUR VOTES TO HIRE A NEW ADMINISTRATOR IF THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATOR RETIRES OR QUITS? AND IF SO, WHY? AND IS THIS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT? COULD THE OUTGOING COUNTY COMMISSIONERS JUST AMEND EVERY SINGLE DADGUM ORDINANCE IN THE SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ORDINANCES TO SAY THAT TO AMEND THIS ORDINANCE REQUIRES A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF 4 TO 1 SUPERMAJORITY VOTE.
WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE AND WHAT LEGAL SCHOLAR HAS EVER PROPOSED THIS? WHAT LEGAL ANALYSIS HAS EVER GONE INTO THIS? I AM NOT IMPRESSED WITH THE QUALITY OF THE LEGAL SCHOLARSHIP AND RESEARCH OF THE OFFICE OF COUNTY ATTORNEY.
WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WHY YOU'RE DOING IT.
DEAD HAND CONTROL, AS THEY CALL IT, IN THE LAW OF DECEDENTS ESTATES.
SOME OF THE OUTGOING COMMISSIONERS AND ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO WON'T BE THE CHAIR ANYMORE, ARE REALLY KIND OF VINDICTIVE, AND I AM APPALLED THAT YOU WOULD BRING THIS FORWARD AND HAVE SUCH A LAME EXPLANATION.
AND SO THE MAN WHO JUST STOOD AT THIS PODIUM AND EXPLAINED WHY WE NEEDED THIS.
ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS, WHO'S NOW THE VICE CHAIR, SAID, HIRE HIM.
THAT'S LOUISIANA UNDER HUEY LONG.
AND IT TOOK Y'ALL HOW LONG TO APPROVE IT? RUBBER STAMPING EVERYTHING YOU DO.
DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS, CONTRACTS, THE FCC CONTRACT.
WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON WITH THIS COUNTY COMMISSION? CAN'T YOU GET THINGS RIGHT? CAN'T YOU EVER DO ANYTHING RIGHT? I'M JUST APPALLED.
WE HIRED A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AGAIN WHO DIDN'T APPLY FOR THE JOB.
BECAUSE WHY? WELL, I STILL DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE FLORIDA BAR WEBSITE, THE BOY STILL LISTS HIS ADDRESS, HIS BUSINESS ADDRESS AS 500 SEBASTIAN VIEW IN THIS BUILDING.
WHAT? CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.
2010. THEY BEGAN THIS LITTLE THING.
IN 14 YEARS WE DECIDED TO DO THIS THING AGAIN.
AND IT SHOULD NOT BE DONE BY YOU.
FIVE AND YOU KNOW IT IN YOUR HEART OF HEARTS.
IT SHOULD BE DONE WHENEVER THE NEW COMMISSIONERS SIT ON THIS BOARD.
AND THE THING IS, WE STILL AND I'M GOING TO KEEP ON BRINGING THIS UP.
WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
IT SHOULDN'T BE DONE. YOU SHOULD DENY IT TODAY.
BUT WE KNOW HOW THE VOTE IS GOING TO GO.
MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK MAYBE A41.
BE NICE FOR MR. DEAN TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE ON THIS ONE.
ONE COMMISSIONER BE TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE WITH THE OTHER COMMISSIONER ABOUT THE VOTE ON THIS.
AND LIKE I SAY, I'M GOING TO KEEP ON BRINGING THIS UP AND YOU CAN CONTINUE TO IGNORE IT, BUT I WANT THE COMMUNITY TO JUST PAY ATTENTION TO IT, AND I'LL JUST KEEP ON SAYING IT AS LONG AS I HAVE BREATH.
GOT BREATH. Y AND WITHIN A YEAR.
AND YOU TOOK 14 YEARS TO DO THIS THING.
WHY CAN WE NOT HAVE A HIRED COUNTY ATTORNEY? WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THIS BOARD NOT ASKING THAT THAT BE DONE.
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AND YOU ALL JUST GOING TO SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO THIS AND, WELL, TOO BAD WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO.AND YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE SHOWING THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU'RE ON A POWER TRIP.
YOU'RE NOT FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THIS CITY AND FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THIS COMMISSION.
REALLY AND TRULY, IT'S A SHAME, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEW ONES SITTING UP THERE AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO, WHAT THEY CAN DO TO FIX WHAT HAS BEEN DONE THAT IS NOT IN THE BENEFIT OF THIS COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, DENVER COOK I LIVE IN PONTE VEDRA BEACH, I'VE PROTECTED ADDRESS, SO I'M NOT GOING TO DISCLOSE MY STREET ADDRESS BECAUSE I'M A FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU.
THERE WAS THERE'S ANGER. FRUSTRATION.
A LOT OF THINGS WERE SAID ON BOTH SIDES, BUT WE'RE PAST THAT.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO STAND FOR SOMETHING, AND THAT'S FOR THE PEOPLE, THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
NOT FOR THE ADMINISTRATORS AND GOVERNMENT.
OUR PARTY IS ABOUT SMALL GOVERNMENT, EFFICIENT GOVERNMENT AND EFFECTIVE GOVERNMENT.
IF YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, YOU WILL ENSURE THAT WE WILL HAVE A BOARD THAT GETS NOTHING DONE, AND WE'LL SET A PRECEDENT THAT WITHOUT ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY AND CONTROL, NOTHING CHANGES.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW FROM THE MENTAL HEALTH OF OUR CHILDREN, THE DRUGS IN OUR COMMUNITY, THE CROWDED ROADS, THE DEBT WE'RE BEING BURIED IN AS CITIZENS, AND FOR Y'ALL TO THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION, DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE RULES.
IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE, REASONABLE OR RESPONSIBLE.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE MIGHT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN, BUT YOU SHOULD NOT ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN.
STEP UP. DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY, WHETHER THEY VOTED FOR YOU OR NOT.
LIKE SOME OF YOU, I DIDN'T WIN MY ELECTION.
BUT I DON'T HOLD THAT AGAINST MY OPPONENT OR THE CITIZENS WHO DIDN'T VOTE FOR ME.
I'M FIGHTING FOR MY COMMUNITY, FOR EVERYONE.
AND I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD DO THE SAME THING.
DOING THIS ORDINANCE IS A SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE CITIZENS WHO VOTED FOR CHANGE.
AND IF THE NEW BOARD CAN'T ADDRESS THOSE PROBLEMS RESPONSIBLY, WE WILL ALL FAIL.
AND IT NEEDS. YOU NEED TO KILL THIS.
WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATOR WITH A CONTRACT THAT CONTRACTS IN PLACE.
YOU DON'T NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY THINGS ARE DONE.
JUST LIKE YOU DON'T NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY IN WHICH WE'RE HEARD AS CITIZENS.
PERIOD. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.
HAVE A GOOD DAY. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD, COMMISSIONER.
DEAN. I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER BOARD COMMENTS.
OKAY. I MOVE TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2024 463 TO RESTATE AND AMEND ORDINANCE 2010 DASH 47 TO REQUIRE A MAJORITY PLUS ONE VOTE OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO FURTHER CHANGE ANY OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ORDINANCE.
SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
NOW WE MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13, FORMERLY CONSENT, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
[8. Approval of the draft conceptual management plan for the LAMP preservation property located at 5960 Don Manuel Road. For more information, contact Ryan Mauch, Environmental Supervisor at 904 209-0621 Revised]
GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS RYAN MALLECK WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT.[04:35:02]
AND I GUESS WE COULD START WITH ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR THIS CONSENT ITEM.AND DID THEY NOT TELL YOU THAT I SAID THAT IN MY MEETING WITH THE STAFF WITH JOY? CERTAINLY. WE DO HAVE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION HERE AND A PICTURE AND ALL THAT.
SO, YEAH, WE DO HAVE SOME AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS.
I DIDN'T SURPRISE YOU, RIGHT? CORRECT. AND SO, YEAH, HERE'S AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY.
IT'S LOCATED JUST NORTH OF STATE ROAD 207 AND IT IS ON COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH.
SO THIS IS A LAMP BOARD PROPERTY THAT WAS IN THE PROCESS OF ACQUISITION.
IT WAS APPROVED BY THE LAMP BOARD FOR RECOMMENDATION TO THIS BOARD IN DECEMBER OF 23, AND THEN ALSO APPROVED BY THIS BOARD ON THE RECOMMENDATION LIST ON IN MARCH OF 24.
AND SO, AGAIN, IT'S WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE ACQUISITION PROCESS.
AND AS FAR AS THE THE COUNTY OFFERED THE SELLERS THE APPRAISED VALUE, WHICH WAS $35,000.
IT'S A SEVEN ACRE PROPERTY THERE IN GREEN AT THE END OF DON MANUEL ROAD THERE.
IT'S ALSO JUST SOUTH OF THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY DEEP CREEK ROAD, WHICH IS ANOTHER PRESERVATION AREA.
SO IT'S BUILDING ON TO THAT ECOLOGICAL CORRIDOR THERE AS ANOTHER PRESERVATION PROPERTY.
SO IT'S CURRENTLY A FORESTED AREA.
I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER AERIAL LATER ON.
IT IT SHOWS THE ACTUAL PROPERTY.
SOME OF THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION HERE IS FROM THE FLORIDA NATIONAL NATURAL AREAS INVENTORY.
SOME BIODIVERSITY MATRIX THERE.
THIS IS ALSO A CULTURAL RESOURCE MAP.
IT'S IN THE MEDIUM PROBABILITY.
SO IT'S MOSTLY A LOW PROBABILITY.
AND AGAIN IT WILL REMAIN IN PRESERVATION AS FAR AS THE ACQUISITION ITSELF.
THE BOC APPROVED THE CONTRACT ON SIX FOUR OF 24.
AND THAT WAS A RESOLUTION 20 4-2 31.
REAL ESTATE OBTAINED A TITLE SEARCH, LAND SURVEY AND PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT.
DURING THE DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS, WHAT'S THE FLOYD TRACK TO THE NORTH? THE FLOYD TRACT IS A PRESERVATION TRACT THAT THE COUNTY OWNS, AND IT'S PART OF THE DEEP CREEK A REGIONAL OFF SITE MITIGATION AREA, OR ROMA FOR SHORT.
THAT ROMA IS PART OF THREE SEPARATE TRACKS.
THAT'S THE MASTER'S TRACK DOWN IN HASTINGS.
THANK YOU VERY, VERY NICELY DONE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE'LL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT NOW OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
CHUCK LABANOWSKI 1748 NORTH CAPRARO.
IF I COULD HAVE THE SCREEN, PLEASE.
THE QUESTION I HAVE WAS SHOWING UP IN THE DOCUMENT IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE CONSENT ITEM.
IT'S NOT THE PROPER ADDRESS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY BUYING.
THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT BUYING.
SO THE RECORD NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED THERE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
MADAM CHAIR. OKAY, WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD.
COMMISSIONER. DEAN. I'M SORRY.
IS THAT THE CORRECT ADDRESS? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
CAN I GET CONFIRMATION THAT THAT IS THE CORRECT ADDRESS, PLEASE.
THAT ADDRESS WAS GIVEN TO STAFF THROUGH THE APPLICANT.
SO. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK BACK AND CONFIRM WHAT THE ACTUAL ADDRESS IS.
IT'S CURRENTLY A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO IT MAY NOT HAVE A 911 ADDRESS ADDRESS TO IT.
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AND SO WE'LL DEFINITELY GET THAT CONFIRMED FOR THE RECORD.OKAY. MY GUESS IS THE OWNER IS 59.
PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO.
NEXT WE MOVE TO, I BELIEVE, OUR FINAL AGENDA ITEM.
[5. Motion to adopt Resolution 2024-________, approving the final plat for Deerfield Meadows Tract “I” Replat. For more information, contact Kelly Schley, Application Review Supervisor at 904 209-0720]
HELLO, I'M KELLY SCHLEI WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT.WE ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH MISS BECKER AT OUR OFFICE.
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OH, THERE YOU GO.
OKAY, GREAT. SO I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
LET'S HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD. COMMISSIONER DEAN.
I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2024 463, APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT FOR DEERFIELD MEADOWS TRACT I.
MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.
OKAY. LET'S GO BACK INTO NON-AGENDA.
WE'LL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
[Public Comment]
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON? YEP. SUZANNE CLEWLOW 109 LAUREL WOOD WAY.32086. IT'S BEEN QUITE A MEETING.
I'M SURE YOU ALL WILL BE GLAD TO RUN OUT OF HERE.
I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH BACK WAY LONG AGO HERE TO SEE HOW THIS IS HOW WE GOT OURSELVES IN THIS MESS.
ONE OF THE THINGS CAME UP AT THE LAST MEETING WHEN SILVERLEAF CAME IN AND WANTED A LITTLE TWEAKS TO THEIR PUD OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, AND I ASKED, WELL, CAN WE GIVE YOU YOUR TWEAKS AND GET SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING? AND I WAS TOLD, OH NO, NO, NO PROBLEM.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
AND LOOK IN OUR DRI AND SHE READ THE DRI AND INSTEAD OF PROVIDING SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN SILVERLEAF, THEY DID WHAT SO MANY PEOPLE DO.
OH YEAH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS REALLY GREAT.
WE'LL GIVE YOU 200 PLATTED LOTS IN ARMSTRONG, AND A LITTLE LESS THAN A DOLLAR PER SQUARE FOOT FOR OUR COMMERCIAL. AND WE'VE DONE OUR DUTY.
WELL, I WENT AND LOOKED AT THOSE LOTS.
HAS AVAILABILITY OF WATER AND REAL SEWER LINES, SOME TRANSPORTATION, AND I'VE SINCE FOUND OUT THERE'S OTHER DAIRIES THAT HAVE MADE SOME SIMILAR DEALS.
I HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO THOSE YET, BUT WHEN THEY COME BEFORE YOU AND START OFFERING YOU SOMETHING OTHER THAN PROPERTIES WITHIN THEIR PUD, PLEASE DON'T DO THAT.
WE'RE LOOKING WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT SEGREGATING PEOPLE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT BRINGING THEM INTO.
AND THESE THESE ARE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE.
THESE ARE THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO SOME PRETTY NASTY STUFF FOR US.
I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION SO THAT IN THE FUTURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT HAVE UNBUILT HOUSING, NONE OF WHICH HAS BEEN DESIGNATED FOR LOW, LOW INCOME OR AFFORDABILITY.
AND WE NEED TO GET SOME EVERYWHERE, NOT JUST OVER THERE SOMEWHERE.
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU.I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CHAIR IF I COULD HAVE A FEW EXTRA MINUTES.
WE'RE GOING TO DO THREE MINUTES.
SORRY, I NEED TO KNOW IN ADVANCE.
AND IT HAS TO BE ON ONE OF THE AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY. THAT WASN'T IN THE RULES, SO.
OKAY. I'M DOCTOR GEORGE SPIEGEL.
I'VE BEEN RESEARCHING AND TEACHING FOR OVER 50 YEARS.
WHAT I'M GOING TO PRESENT TODAY ARE FACTS.
SO LET'S LOOK AT AMENDMENT THREE.
MOST PEOPLE SUPPORT LET'S RESIGNATION A RESIGNATION BETWEEN 60 AND 70% OF LOCALITIES IN CALIFORNIA, COLORADO, NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY HAVE VOTED TO OPT OUT.
MOST STATES WITH LEGAL MARIJUANA WILL STOP ILLICIT SALES.
MARIJUANA WILL CREATE A BOON IN TAX REVENUE.
WELL, ADVOCATES OF LEGALIZATION HAVE OVERESTIMATED THE REVENUE THAT WILL BE COLLECTED.
TAX REVENUE COLLECTED WILL BE OFFSET BY A GREATER COST TO TAXPAYERS.
IF WE TAKE COLORADO AS AN EXAMPLE, IT'S ESTIMATED FOR EVERY $1 IN TAX REVENUE IN COLORADO AND SPENT THEY THEY NEED TO SPEND ANOTHER $4.50 TO MITIGATE THE EFFECTS OF LEGALIZATION.
ANY REVENUE IS OFFSET BY GREATER COSTS THAT HEALTH CARE, AUTO ACCIDENTS, INCREASED INSURANCE RATE, INCREASED CRIME RATES, AND MORE STUDENTS DROPPING OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL.
LEGALIZATION WILL NOT IMPACT ROAD SAFETY.
69% OF MARIJUANA USERS SAY THEY HAVE DRIVEN UNDER THE INFLUENCE, AND 27% ADMIT TO DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE ON A DAILY BASIS. MARIJUANA IS HARMLESS IN LEGAL STATES.
THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS DUE TO CANNABIS POISONING IN THE TEN AND YOUNGER AGE HAS TRIPLED SINCE LEGALIZATION IN THOSE STATES. IN COLORADO, MARIJUANA IS THE NUMBER ONE SUBSTANCE FOUND IN SUICIDE TOXICOLOGY REPORTS.
IT IS LINKED CLOSELY TO SUICIDES IN A MAJOR RISK FACTOR FOR MENTAL ILLNESS.
NO MAJOR MEDICAL ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS MARIJUANA AS MEDICINE.
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS SEEK TREATMENT FOR MARIJUANA ADDICTION EVERY YEAR.
MORE TEENS SEEK TREATMENT FOR MARIJUANA ADDICTION THAN FOR ANY OTHER DRUG.
JUDY CAN FINISH. JUDY WILL FINISH IT.
ALL RIGHT. WE ARE ONE, RIGHT? TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH.
I LIVE AT 101 GREENWILLOW LANE.
MY HUSBAND HAS DONE SO MUCH RESEARCH ON THIS.
THIS IS NOT JUST A, YOU KNOW, FLY BY NIGHT THING.
I KNOW THIS IS REALLY A SERIOUS AGENDA ITEM FOR HIM.
FLORIDA AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE.
THE MYTH IS MARIJUANA DOES NOT HARM THE ENVIRONMENT.
MARIJUANA PRODUCTION IS NEARLY FOUR TIMES MORE ENERGY INTENSIVE THAN COAL OR OIL PRODUCTION.
IT TAKES MORE WATER TO GROW IT THAN ANY OTHER CONVENTIONAL CROP.
INDOOR GROWERS EMIT AS MUCH CARBON DIOXIDE AS 3.3 MILLION CARS.
LET US LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCES OF THE STATES THAT HAVE LEGALIZED.
PLEASE SHARE THIS KNOWLEDGE WITH YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS.
MY SISTER IN LAW LIVES IN MASSACHUSETTS, AND TWO YEARS AGO THEY TRIED.
THEY DID. THE RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA WAS ON THEIR BALLOT.
AND SHE REALLY FOUGHT TO KEEP IT OUT OF HER LITTLE COMMUNITY.
AND THE WAY THAT THEIR BALLOT AMENDMENT WAS WRITTEN, IT WASN'T AN AMENDMENT.
I UNDERSTAND THIS IS AN AMENDMENT.
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WELL, I TALKED TO MY SISTER IN LAW JUST KIND OF ASKING, WELL, CAN WE LIKE, YOU KNOW, CURTAIL THE SALE HERE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY AND MAYBE REDUCE THE EFFECT, ESPECIALLY FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE? YOU KNOW, EDIBLES ARE REALLY A PROBLEM WITH KIDS.AND SHE SAID, WELL, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S GOING ON NOW ON THEIR BALLOT THIS YEAR.
THEY ARE INTRODUCING HALLUCINOGENS.
LEGALLY, LSD, PSILOCYBIN, PSYCHOACTIVE MUSHROOMS ARE ON THEIR BALLOT TO BE APPROVED.
SHE SAID IF YOU GUYS PASS THIS, JUST WAIT BECAUSE IT'S COMING.
SO THERE'S A LARGE LOBBY BEHIND THIS THAT HAS A LOT OF MONEY, AND THEY HAVE A LOT TO GAIN AND NOT VERY MUCH TO LOSE BY PUTTING OUT ALL THESE ADS AND MAKING IT SOUND SO APPEALING. THEY FOUND ONE SHERIFF IN THE STATE THAT WOULD ENDORSE IT OF A COUNTY THAT HAS 38,000 PEOPLE.
HE'S BEEN A SHERIFF FOR 25 YEARS.
THERE'S SO MUCH AT STAKE WITH THIS.
I JUST THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS.
AGAIN, WE'RE IN THE SITUATION WHERE IF YOU DON'T KNOW SOMETHING, YOU ASSUME THAT YOU KNOW.
YOU KNOW WHAT THERE IS TO KNOW.
IT HELPED ME TO GET OFF A STRONG NARCOTIC MEDICATION FOR MY BACK.
BUT. BUT THEN WHEN I WAS DONE, I WAS DONE.
AND I WASN'T ON IT ALL THE TIME.
I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU ALL WERE ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME, BUT THE BCC WAS INVITED BY NOCATEE TO DELETE 50 ACRES OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FROM THE PUD, AND THAT WAS WRONG.
I WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION.
WHY WAS THAT INTENTIONAL? WHO DIRECTED THAT? WAS THAT LEARNED COUNCIL OR WAS THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR OR WHO OR WAS THAT MR. ROBERSON? I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OVERDEVELOPMENT, FLOODING AND CLIMATE CHANGE.
THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA'S INSTITUTE ON EMERGING PATHOGENS IDENTIFIES DEVELOPMENT AS ONE OF THREE CO-FACTORS TO THE GROWTH OF MOSQUITO BORNE DISEASES IN FLORIDA, WHICH IS IN CRISIS.
SOME 33 NEIGHBORHOODS SUFFER FROM EXCESSIVE FLOODING, MUCH OF IT DUE TO POOR PLANNING, WITH SOME APPROVED BY A PUTATIVE COUNTY ENGINEER WHO AT THE TIME WAS NOT A LICENSED ENGINEER.
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP, FOLKS.
WAS IT AN ENGINEER? MOSQUITO CONTROL SCIENTISTS MUST BE HEARD AND HEEDED BY THIS BOARD ON THE EFFECTS OF PUBLIC HEALTH, OF STICKING LARGE SUBDIVISIONS ADJOINING SWAMPS.
YOU SAW SOME OF THE PICTURES TODAY.
TOO OFTEN, GOVERNMENTS CHILL AND RETALIATE AGAINST FREE SPEECH.
TOO OFTEN, PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT ARE DISCOURAGED FROM SPEAKING OUT AND DOING THEIR JOBS TOO WELL.
LET'S BASE PUBLIC POLICY ON GOOD SCIENCE AND PROTECT OUR FREE SPEECH RIGHTS AS AMERICANS.
AS THE LATE UNITED STATES ATTORNEY GENERAL ROBERT F KENNEDY SAID IN 1961, IF OUR CONSTITUTION HAD FOLLOWED THE STYLE OF SAINT PAUL, THE FIRST AMENDMENT MIGHT HAVE CONCLUDED.
BUT THE GREATEST OF THESE IS SPEECH.
THIS IS THE KEY TO THE SUNLIGHT.
IF IT IS GRANTED, ALL DOORS OPEN.
BY THE WAY, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF TREY ASNER, AND WHEN IS HE GOING TO BE REHIRED? AND WHEN IS CRB ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO DO THEIR JOB AND HAVE THEIR MEETINGS IN THIS AUDITORIUM? WHY IS CRB? WE NOW HAVE LAMP MEETINGS IN THIS AUDITORIUM, BUT WHY IS CRB EXPECTED TO MEET IN A LITTLE CONFERENCE ROOM IN A BUILDING THAT SAYS GROWTH MANAGEMENT, WHERE THE SIGN ON THE DOOR SAYS STAFF ONLY SAINT JOHNS COUNTY LACKS A WELCOMING SPIRIT.
THANK YOU. MISS TAYLOR, I BELIEVE YOU ALREADY SPOKE DURING THE FIRST
[04:55:09]
PUBLIC COMMENT.I DIDN'T KNOW I COULDN'T DO IT AGAIN.
ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY. WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD FOR COMMISSIONER REPORTS.
YES. ONE OF THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.
[Commissioners’ Reports]
MAIN STREET IN OUR CPRB MEETING WE DID TALK ABOUT.IS THERE ANY WAY TO TO DO SOME SORT OF AN OVERLAY REGARDING THE SIGNAGE? LIKE, LET'S SAY A GAS STATION CAME IN WITH THEIR BIG GATE SIGN.
CAN THEY DO IT SO THAT IT'S LIKE OLD LOOKING OR CAN WE DO HOW DO WE GO ABOUT DOING THAT? I THINK WE JUST DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY CREATING AN OVERLAY DISTRICT IN DOWNTOWN HASTINGS.
RIGHT, COMMISSIONER DEANE? WELL, THAT WAS MY SUGGESTION.
SO I THINK IF WE HAVE, BY THE WAY, NO, NO ONE HAS MORE EXPERIENCE THAN SALLY O'HARA BECAUSE SHE WAS THE DIRECTOR OF THE VILANO BEACH MAIN STREET AND WHERE THEY DEVELOPED THE OVERLAY.
SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD A GOOD MOVE.
ABSOLUTELY. I THINK WE JUST DIRECT STAFF TO TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
MIKE ROBERTSON, DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
IT IS USE BASED, SO NO ISSUE WITH US.
WE CAN RESEARCH THE POTENTIAL FOR SIGNAGE REGULATIONS AND INSERT THAT INTO THE OVERLAY.
WE ALREADY HAVE OVERLAYS THAT DEAL WITH ESTHETIC COMPONENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S NATURAL PROGRESSION FOR THIS.
BUT IT'S GOT A HISTORIC IT'S GOT A HISTORY.
WE WILL WORK WITH MISS O'HAIR BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE LIBRARY EXAMPLE THAT WE ARE REACHING OUT TO THEM AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK, AND THEN MAYBE BRING SOMETHING BACK TO YOU IF THAT SOUNDS REASONABLE.
THE SECOND THING IS FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT.
I CAN'T REMEMBER HER LAST NAME.
AND WE WENT FROM 34,000 WITHOUT POWER.
AND THOSE KIDS ARE SO FUN TO SEE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WORKING AS HARD AS EVERYONE ELSE IN THE COUNTY.
I JUST WANTED TO CALL THEM OUT.
THEY GOT SECOND, I THINK IN A BIG MEET.
THAT'S GREAT. COMMISSIONER ALAIMO.
I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO REPORT, BUT JUST WANTED TO THANK THE COUNTY STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK THEY DID.
SO BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO IT.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO REPORT.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.
AND I'VE GOT SOME FAMILY ON THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA.
I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR TREES ARE GREAT.
WE ALL LOVE THE TREES. BUT WHEN THE STORM COMES IN, THE TREES BECOME FLYING OBJECTS.
AND THERE IS A LOT OF DAMAGE ON THE WEST COAST OF OUR STATE.
AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST APPROPRIATE THAT WE TAKE TIME TO TO PRAY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE PATH OF THESE DESTRUCTIVE STORMS AND PRAY FOR THE FOLKS RIGHT HERE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, FLAGLER ESTATES, HASTINGS.
THERE ARE REAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE SUFFERED REAL DAMAGE AND THEIR LIVES ARE ARE UPSIDE DOWN RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S JUST WHAT'S ON MY HEART AS I SIT UP HERE RIGHT NOW.
WE WE HAVE A LOT TO BE THANKFUL FOR.
AND AND THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO NEED OUR HELP AND NEED OUR PRAYERS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.
COMMISSIONER DEAN. YEAH, I HAVE ONE ITEM THAT I WANT TO DISCUSS THIS AFTERNOON BECAUSE AS MOST EVERYONE KNOWS, WE CAN ONLY TALK TO EACH OTHER HERE UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAW, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO POTENTIAL FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. AND I WANT TO SEEK A CONSENSUS THIS AFTERNOON THAT WE WOULD REQUEST STAFF, PARTICULARLY RYAN, KANE AND JOY,
[05:00:01]
TO PUT TOGETHER A AN AGENDA ITEM THAT WOULD OUTLINE THE PROCESS THAT WE MIGHT ADOPT OR PROCEED TO DEVELOP A CROQUET COURT FOR SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY.SIMILAR TO THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP SARASOTA COUNTY HAS WITH THE CROQUET COURT IN SARASOTA.
I KNOW, I THINK MOST OF YOU HAVE BEEN VISITED BY JOHN RICE, WHO REALLY IS SORT OF THE SPOKESPERSON, MAYBE INFORMALLY. I KNOW WE WENT I THINK WE, CHRISTY, YOU AND I WERE BOTH AT ONE OF THE CROQUET EVENTS IN PONTE VEDRA ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AND FIRST TIME I'VE EVER PLAYED GROWN UP CROQUET.
AND IT'S PRETTY FASCINATING, REALLY.
BUT THEY HAVE QUITE AN INTERESTING MALLETS THEY USE.
THE CONSENSUS WOULD BE THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE AN AGENDA ITEM TO PRESENT FOR CONSIDERATION.
NO COMMITMENT, JUST CONSIDERATION OF BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING.
YES OR NO OR WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? SO WITH THAT CONSENSUS, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, I WOULD ASK THAT WE ASK STAFF TO PREPARE, NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
THAT MAY BE TOO QUICK, BUT IN THE FUTURE.
ABSOLUTELY. I THINK YOU'VE GOT IT.
I KNOW WE WERE ALL SPEAKING TO OUR EOC COORDINATOR TODAY AND TO ALL OF THE STAFF.
SO THANK YOU TO OUR AMAZING COUNTY STAFF ONCE AGAIN.
I WAS SO PROUD WATCHING EVERYONE COME TOGETHER FROM EACH DEPARTMENT, PUT ON A DIFFERENT HAT, AND STEP UP TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COUNTY AND ENSURE THEIR SAFETY AND WELL-BEING. WITNESSING THIS INCREDIBLE OPERATION DAY IN AND DAY OUT AT THE EOC BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER THE STORM IS ALWAYS SUCH A HUMBLING EXPERIENCE AND I JUST WISH THAT OUR RESIDENTS WOULD GET TO SEE THAT.
JOE G AND KELLY WILSON, YOU RUN THE TIGHTEST SHIP I'VE EVER SEEN.
LAURA DODD, PAUL STURDIVANT, NEIL SCHENKER, RYAN KANE, JAMIE BAKARI, GREG CALDWELL, BEN BRIGHT, SO MANY FAMILIAR FACES, WAYNE TYLER, YOUR AMAZING TEAM, MAKING SURE THAT WE GOT OUR EMERGENCY MESSAGES OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS IN A COHERENT, TIMELY FASHION CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH.
THAT WAS SO IMPORTANT TO EVERYONE'S SAFETY TO SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT TIM FORSON AND CHRISTINA UPCHURCH, THANK YOU FOR HELPING COORDINATE WITH THE SHELTERS AND THE COMMUNICATIONS, THE COUNCIL ON AGING FOLKS, FOR MAKING SURE WE HAD HOT FOOD TO EAT.
IT WAS A MARVEL AND A SIGHT TO BEHOLD AND TO JOY ANDREWS, OUR FEARLESS LEADER.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING THERE DAY IN AND DAY OUT, MAKING SURE THAT WE COULD STEER THIS SHIP.
I HAD THE PRIVILEGE LAST NIGHT OF SERVING ALONGSIDE HASTINGS ROTARY, HASTINGS MAIN STREET SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE TONY COLEMAN, SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH MAYOR DYLAN RUMRILL, THE RED CROSS AGAIN A TIRELESS KELLY WILSON TO SERVE 500 POUNDS OF BARBECUE TO THE RESIDENTS OF FLAGLER ESTATES AND HASTINGS.
SO THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR REACHING OUT.
YOU EMBODY THE MESSAGE THAT IN FLORIDA, WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.
WE WERE VERY, VERY FORTUNATE DURING BOTH HELENE AND NOW MILTON, AND WE SHOULD COUNT OUR BLESSINGS.
HE IS A SHINING EXAMPLE OF THE POWER AND IMPORTANCE OF LOCAL JOURNALISM.
AARON'S STORY, AFTER THE SMOKE CLEARS RAN IN SPRING OF THIS YEAR AND IS A STORY ABOUT THE EFFORT TO CHANGE A STATE LAW TO GET NEUROLOGICAL DISEASES ADDED TO AN ALREADY EXISTING LAW FOR FIREFIGHTER BENEFITS, A PRESUMPTIVE DISABILITY PROVISION ALREADY AVAILABLE IN THREE OTHER STATES.
[05:05:03]
AS A RESULT OF THE DEVASTATING SAINT AUGUSTINE GAS STATION EXPLOSION AND FIRE IN 2011, LAST YEAR THIS COUNTY TOOK UP THE FIGHT TO MAKE A POLICY CHANGE.YESTERDAY, ERIN'S PIECE WAS NOMINATED FOR AN EMMY.
THANK YOU TO THE RILEY FAMILY FOR BEING SO CANDID AND SHARING YOUR PAIN.
TO DAVID STEPHENS FOR YOUR RELENTLESS ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF THE MEN AND WOMEN YOU REPRESENT.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, TO MR. FARRAR. WE WERE RIGHT TO TRUST YOU IN TELLING THIS STORY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR WELL-DESERVED EMMY NOMINATION.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL CONCLUDE, MISS ANDREWS.
[County Administrator’s Report]
AND BISHOP ESTATE.THERE IS A RECLAIMED WATER LINE.
GEEZ, IT'S NOT SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY.
UNTIL TOMORROW MORNING, AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO OPEN BEFORE RUSH HOUR.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. MR. COMMANDER. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
[County Attorney’s Report]
SO IF YOU HAVE TIME AND CAN STOP BY AND SAY HI, SHE SHOULD BE STARTING WEDNESDAY.AND WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.