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          OKAY. SO AMENDED. SO, COMMISSIONER ALAIMO. 
          [Deletions to Consent Agenda (*This meeting was joined in progress*)]
          >> I HAVE NONE. >> NONE. 
          >> NONE. >> ALL RIGHT, DO WE GO TO 
          PUBLIC COMMENT? >> NOW TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME OR ADD IT TO THE RECORD. WE WILL GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES. 
          >> CONSENT NUMBER FOUR. ACCORDING TO MR. VALDES , SAINT AUGUSTINE COMMISSIONER, WHO IS PAID TO WORK ON THIS PROPERTY AT 115 RIDGELY STATED IT IS THE FINEST AND MOST LUXURIOUS SHORT-TERM RENTAL IN DOWNTOWN SAINT AUGUSTINE . FOR 10 YEARS THEY RECEIVED AHISTORICAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION. MY QUESTION , AND I ALREADY ASKED THIS AT THE CITY AS IT IS IN THE CITY. IS THIS GENTRIFICATION OF LINCOLNVILLE? 
          [Approval of Consent Agenda]
          >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, WE REPOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          >> MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE THAT PASSES 5-0. ANYMORE 
          [Additions/Deletions to Regular Agenda ]
ADDITIONS AND DELETIONS TO THE REGULAR AGENDA? 
          >> NONE. >> NONE. 
          >> I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT WE ARE PULLING ITEM TWO. I AM GOING TO ASK THAT WE PULL ITEM TWO. AND MOVED TO A DATE UNCERTAIN. 
          [Approval of Regular Agenda]
          COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> NONE. 
          >> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> NONE. 
          >> MISSION TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT. 
          >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. THAT 
          [1. Presentation by The Northeast Florida Fire Watch Council regarding Veteran Suicide Prevention. The Northeast Florida Fire Watch Council is Florida’s fight to end veteran suicide. The Fire Watch Council is building a life-saving network of community members and organizations trained to identify the warning signs of veterans in crisis and to direct those veterans to the help they need. To date, no city, county, or state has systemically reduced its veteran suicide rate. Modeled after CPR, The Fire Watch's effort is the first of its kind in the country. The Board of County Commissioners in Baker, Clay, Nassau, and St. Johns County and the City of Jacksonville (the “Counties”) in 2019 sought to establish the Northeast Florida Fire Watch Council (the “Fire Watch Council") by Interlocal Agreement for the purposes of promoting programs to reduce the number of suicides among military veterans living in Northeast Florida. Effective on November 6, 2019, the Counties entered into the Interlocal Agreement Regarding Veterans' Suicide Prevention, which established the Fire Watch Council, a multi-jurisdictional governmental entity. In May 2020, the Fire Watch Council launched several veteran suicide prevention programs including, most notably, the Watch Stander program, an upstream, early intervention network of community volunteers trained to identify risk factors of veterans in crisis and to direct those veterans to the resources they need. In April 2024, the Watch Stander program surpassed 6,500 trained volunteers, of which more than 4,500 are residents of the Counties. In its April 2024 report of 2022 vital statistics, the Florida Department of Health reported that, for the 3rd consecutive year, Veteran suicides in the Counties were 25% below the 2019 level, the year of the Council’s founding, and that this decline far outpaces both Veteran and non-Veteran suicide decreases throughout the state. According to Florida Department of Health data, 103 fewer veterans within the Counties have died by suicide since the Fire Watch Council launched its programs, compared to 2019 levels. A University of Kentucky study on suicide bereavement in veterans and military families shows that each suicide affects 135 people. This means nearly 14,000 fewer community members in the Counties are now suffering the loss of a veteran friend or loved one. The Fire Watch Council is now transitioning into a private sector successor better structured and equipped to expand those programs geographically. The presentation today will be an update on The Fire Watch Council's successes and their transition to a non-profit that will be greatly expand the services it provides to St. Johns County and elsewhere across Florida.]
PASSES 5-0. TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. WE ARE GOING TO HEAR A PRESENTATION FROM NORTHEAST FLORIDA FIRE WATCH COUNSEL REGARDING VETERAN SUICIDE PREVENTION. 
          >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. I AM BRIGADIER GENERAL RETIRED MICHAEL FLEMING. I AM THE CHAIR OF THE FIRE WATCH COUNSEL IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA AND ALSO PROUD TO BE THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE. WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE I WANTED TO FIRST THANK THE COMMISSION FOR YOUR GREAT SUPPORT FOR FIRE WATCH. I GAVE EACH ONE OF YOU BY GENERAL COIN, IN THE MILITARY YOU GET A COIN AS AN OFFICER FOR EXCELLENCE. HE WILL SEE IN THE DATA THAT WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMISSION, WHICH WE HAVE HAD. SO I WANT TO EXPRESS MY PERSONAL APPRECIATION FOR THEM. AND MY COLLEAGUES NICK HYLAND AND DEREK COLLINS HERE. WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CHALLENGE OF VETERAN SUICIDE. THE SLIDE AFTER THAT, PLEASE. 
          THIS IS THE CHALLENGE. VETERAN SUICIDE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE FOR UNFORTUNATELY DECADES. AND WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT HERE IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA. THIS IS OUR START DATE. IN 2019 IS WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THE CONCEPT OF FIRE WATCH COUNSEL, WHICH WAS REALLY TO TAKE THE FIVE COUNTIES IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA AND BAND TOGETHER TO WORK AGAINST VETERAN SUICIDE. YOU SEE THE NUMBERS THERE, ANYONE SUICIDE WE HAD IN 2019. THAT WAS OUR YEAR THAT WE STARTED. 
          NEXT LINE. SO, WE CREATED THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA FIRE WATCH COUNSEL, AND IT WAS THE FIVE COUNTIES IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA BANDING TOGETHER TO CREATE A COUNSEL. AND WE HAD A MANDATE, WHICH IS TO REDUCE VETERAN SUICIDE IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA. 
          THIS COMMISSION HAS BEEN GRACIOUS THE ENTIRE TIME AS FAR AS FUNDING AND SUPPORT. WE USE THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS OUR EXECUTIVE AGENT, SO THAT REALLY HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL FOR US. 
          AND WE HAVE CITIZEN REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL FIVE COUNTIES. I WAS SUPPORTED BY THIS COMMISSION TO BE THE ST. 
          JOHNS COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE, AND ALSO WAS ELECTED CHAIR OF THE FIRE WATCH COUNSEL FIVE YEARS AGO. YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM THERE, THE TERM LIMIT WAS ORIGINALLY SET FOR EIGHT YEARS. HER GOAL WAS TO MAKE AN IMPACT AND THEN TRANSITION INTO SOMETHING FOR LONG-TERM, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WILL HEAR TODAY. 
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NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO THIS IS WHERE WE STOOD. OUR GOAL WAS TO BE DIFFERENT. WE ACTUALLY HAD A BLANK SLATE. AND LESS THAN 10% OF THE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES HAS EVER SERVED IN THE MILITARY. SO IN WAITING FOR VETERANS LIKE MYSELF TO BE THE ONES TO END VETERAN SUICIDE, WE HAVE ALREADY LOST THAT BATTLE. 
          THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH OF US. SWEETER CONCEPT, SAYING WE WILL ENGAGE THE 90% OF AMERICANS WHO NEVER SERVED BUT ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE MILITARY. SO WE WANTED TO GET 10,000 SUPPORTERS TO SURROUND VETERANS WITH A SEA OF GOODWILL. AND WE DID THAT THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED THE WATCH STANDARD PROGRAM. IT IS AN HOUR OF TRAINING WHERE WE GET PEOPLE IN THE LIVES OF VETERANS, BECAUSE NINE OUT OF 10 PEOPLE I SEE ON A DAILY BASIS ARE NOT VETERANS. THE ONE THING TO BE ENGAGED, TO BE BOLD. BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE MILITARY ARE INTIMIDATED BY VETERAN WHO MAYBE ISN'T IN THE RIGHT PLACE. BUT I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE I WAS NEVER IN THE MILITARY. WE WANT TO EMBOLDEN THEM. SO WE CREATED A WATCH STANDARD PROGRAM . IT IS DESIGNED THE SAME WAY WE GO THROUGH CPR. CPR DOESN'T MAKE YOU A DOCTOR, BUT WHAT IT DOES, IT STABILIZES YOU AND HELPS STABILIZE SOMEONE AND GET THEM TO THE PROFESSIONALS. THAT IS REALLY WHAT THE WATCH STANDARD PROGRAM IS. WE WORK WITH SOMETHING CALLED PSYCH ARMOR, WE HAVE OVER 7000 PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS TRAINING AND IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE. THIS IS OUR GOAL, BY THE END OF 2025, TO TRAIN 10,000 PEOPLE TO BE WATCH STANDARDS. AS YOU CAN SEE UP THERE, OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE WE REDUCE VETERAN SUICIDE BY 25% SINCE OUR BASELINE YEAR 2019. IN THE NEXT SLIDE WE WILL SHOW YOU THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. YOU SEE THE NUMBER OF WATCH STANDARDS WE HAVE, WE ARE ON TRACK TO HAVE OVER 10,000. AND NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS REALLY THE KEY ELEMENT. 
          WE WANT OUR WATCH STANDARDS TO BE IN THE LIVES OF VETERANS AND CONNECTED SERVICES. AT FIRE WATCH YOU WILL SEE THAT WE HAVE HAD A GREAT REDUCTION IN VETERAN SUICIDE IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA. BUT IT IS NOT FIRE WATCH ALONE. IT IS FIRE WATCH CONNECTION PROGRAM. PHIL DUDLEY IS BASICALLY THE KING OF VETERANS HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY. 
          WE ALL WORK FOR HIM. AND HE IS DOING GREAT WORK. WE NOW SOMETHING FOR HOMELESS VETERANS. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE BEING DONE. SO WE WANT OUR WATCH STANDARDS TO CONNECT VETERANS TO SERVICE, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. YOU SEE ON THIS CHART, YOU SEE THAT 7585% OF OUR WATCH STANDARDS ARE ENGAGED WITH THE VETERANS IN THEIR LIVES. BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE UPSTREAM. WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT FOR A CRISIS SITUATION EVERY TIME. IF WE CAN GET UPSTREAM AND MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING SERVICES AND VETERAN NEEDS IMMEDIATELY, THEY WILL NEVER BE IN THAT CRISIS SITUATION. AND YOU CAN SEE THERE WITH YOU WATCH STANDARD PROGRAM, WILL HAVE DONE IS CREATED A SEA OF GOODWILL AROUND VETERANS. WE ARE SIMPLY LOOKING TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE TAKE THE WATCH STANDARD PROGRAM. THIS IS THE GREAT NEWS HERE. WE HAVE DATA THAT SHOWS VETERAN SUICIDE HAS BEEN REDUCED IN MORE THAN 25% IN THE BASELINE YEAR FOR THREE YEARS. AND THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE LOOKED AT DATA DOWN TO THE CENSUS TRACT, SO WHEN WE FIND THERE IS AN AREA, MAYBE A VETERAN SUICIDE, WE WILL GO TO THAT AREA AND WORK WITH THAT COMMUNITY. CHURCHES, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO TAKE THE WATCH STANDARD PROGRAM. THIS IS GREAT. THIS IS HOW WE HAVE HELPED REDUCE VETERAN SUICIDE SINCE WE STARTED IN 2019. AND THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS VERY IMPORTANT. THEY TALK ABOUT THAT , WE HAVE OVER 100 PEOPLE WHO ARE ALIVE TODAY, VETERANS WHO ARE ALIVE TODAY. STATISTICS SAY AT LEAST 135 PEOPLE ARE AFFECTED BY SUICIDE. SO WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO WERE NEVER FACED WITH A FRIEND OF THEIRS, A SON, A FATHER LOSING THEIR LIFE TO SUICIDE THROUGH THE FIRE WATCH AND THE APPROPRIATE RESOURCES WE HAVE IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA. WE ALSO, THE STATISTICS ARE BETTER FOR VETERANS THAN CIVILIANS DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. EVEN THOUGH ACROSS FLORIDA THERE WAS A SLIGHT DIP, WE HAD MUCH MORE OF A SIGNIFICANT DIP IN THE SYSTEM. NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE THE NUMBERS FOR ALL FIVE COUNTIES. WE WERE FORTUNATE TO HAVE SUPPORT ALL ACROSS NORTHEAST FLORIDA. WE WANT TO DO IS GIVE YOU SOME STATISTICS FOR THAT. ANYONE SUICIDE IS BAD, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE WAS A BIT OF AN UPTICK IN 2022. 
          WE HAVE NOW ADDRESSED THAT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE STANDING WATCH FOR THEIR FRIENDS. NEXT SLIDE. THIS 
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IS ANOTHER STATISTIC ABOUT THAT. THE YOUNGER VETERANS AND SOMETIMES OLDER VETERANS DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NEITHER BEING ADDRESSED, BUT WE REACH OUT TO THE OLDER VETS, PARTICULARLY THE VIETNAM VETERANS TO MAKE SURE WE CAN DO. SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE MOMENTUM FOR WORKING AGAINST VETERAN SUICIDE. ONE THING WE FOUND IS NO VALUES FOR VETERAN SUICIDE. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO A BIG CAMPAIGN FOR THAT. WE WANT TO DO IS CREATE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND CONTINUE THIS GREAT WORK. SO WE ARE TRANSITIONING NOW, WE ARE SUNSETTING THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA FIRE WATCH COUNSEL, WHICH IS A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, REPLACING IT WITH FIRE WATCH COUNSEL PROJECTS. DOING IDENTICALLY THE SAME THING. SO, RESOLUTION , YOU WILL SEE IT DOES THAT. ALL OF US ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED, PUTTING IN HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF VOLUNTEER TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 
          SO, THAT IS WHAT YOU WILL SEE TODAY. YOU SEE THE SECOND BULLET, REALLY MORE TRADEMARKS AND THINGS WE HAVE DEVELOPED IN THE FIRE WATCH PROJECT. BASICALLY NO MONEY. BUT THE KEY IS, WE WANT TO CONTINUE THIS PROJECT. WE WANT TO CONTINUE AND HAVE OVER 10,000 WATCH STANDARDS TO SURROUND OUR VETERANS WITH A SEA OF GOODWILL. IT SHOULD NOT BE BLANK . GO DOWN HERE. THIS GIVES YOU A SUMMARY OF ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE WITH THE OUR WATCH. WE STARTED LITERALLY WITH A BLANK SLATE, CANINES FOR WARRIORS, ROY DIMOND WAS THE CEO AT THE TIME. HE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING AS THE JACKSONVILLE CITY COUNCILMAN, HE HELPED CREATE THIS. BUT WE HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE. AND WE POSTED DIFFERENTLY, IN THE FACT THAT WE ENGAGED 90%, WE WANT TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AGAINST THE SCOURGE OF VETERAN SUICIDE. 
          THE LAST LINE IS REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO SAY, THAT THE FIGHT CONTINUES. AND WE WOULD ASK THIS COMMISSION TO TAKE THE RESOLUTION AND TO DISSOLVE THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA FIRE WATCH COUNSEL MOVING INTO THE FIRE WATCH PROJECT . BUT TO CONTINUE THE FIGHT, TO COMMIT TO CONTINUE THE FIGHT AGAINST VETERAN SUICIDE. AS A RETIRED VETERAN ATTACHED TO THE LAWSUIT, I WANT TO THANK EACH ONE OF YOU FOR THE GREAT WORK YOU'VE DONE FOR THE CITY AND THE PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE. 
          THANK YOU, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, AND THANK YOU, GENERAL, FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND WHAT YOU HAVE TRIED TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE FIRE WATCH. DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA ABOUT VETERAN SUICIDES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE AFTER THEY LEFT THE MILITARY AND MAYBE JOINED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? WE HAVE HAD INSTANCES OF FIREFIGHTERS COMMITTING SUICIDE WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. I UNDERSTAND THAT CAYMAN IS AN ISSUE, NOT ONLY FROM THE MILITARY SERVICE, BUT THEN THEY GO INTO ANOTHER PUBLIC SERVICE AT FIRE DEPARTMENT, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT, PLEASE? 
          >> I CAN ASK MY COLLEAGUES. NICK ALLEN IS OUR EXECUTIVE 
          DIRECTOR. >> THANK YOU, GENERAL. 
          COMMISSIONER, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. WE DO HERE ANECDOTALLY ABOUT A LOT OF THOSE SUICIDES, BUT THE DATA THAT WE COLLECT ACTUALLY IS RAW DATA PRESENTED TO US BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. SO WE ACTUALLY SEE MEDICAL EXAMINER DEATH CERTIFICATES AND WE ARE ABLE TO SEE IF THEY SERVED OR NOT. AND WE CAN TELL BY AGE, RACE, GENDER, AND MEANS OF DEATH. IN OUR LATEST DATA YEAR, IN 2022, SO HE TRACKED 2019 AND 2022 DATA. WHEN WE DO HEAR ABOUT ANECDOTAL DATA FROM THE FIVE COUNTIES ON VETERAN SUICIDES, WE CAN DEPLOY OUR RESOURCES DOWN THERE TO TRAIN THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WE WILL ALSO GO WELL BEYOND THAT, AND WE CAN REFER FAMILIES TO VETERAN SUICIDE SURVIVOR SUPPORT SERVICES. WE DO HERE FREQUENTLY, WE GET CALLS FROM THE VARIOUS FIRE CHIEFS AND COUNTY SHERIFF'S WHEN THOSE THINGS TO HAPPEN, AND ACTUALLY, ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE , SAINT AUGUSTINE POLICE, AND ST. JOHN'S FIRE AND RESCUE HAVE ALL, FROM THE EARLY DAYS, BEEN BIG SUPPORTERS . WE TRAINED SEVERAL OF THEIR 
          DEPARTMENTS . >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. 
          JUST AS A THOUGHT, ANYWAY TO OVERLAP BETWEEN WHAT YOU GUYS DO , WHAT THE CLEAR NEEDS ARE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT I THINK WOULD BE WONDERFUL. OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT THE EXPERT. YOU GUYS 
          ARE THE EXPERT. >> YES, I JUST WANT TO POINT 
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OUT, I AM THE MOM OF TWO NAVY S.E.A.L.S. AND THE PROBLEM WHEN THEY COME OUT OF THE MILITARY IS ACTUALLY BECOMING PART OF ALL OVER THE WORLD. I WATCHED SEVERAL OF THE PEOPLE MY SON SERVED WITH COMMIT SUICIDE BECAUSE THEY CANNOT GET BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY. WHAT YOU SEE AS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WITH THE VETERANS WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE? 
          >> I WOULD SAY SUICIDE, GENERALLY, IS ISOLATION. 
          SOMETIMES THAT ISOLATION IS JUST AS WHAT YOU DESCRIBED, I FELT COMFORTABLE IN THE UNIT, I KNEW WHERE I WAS, I KNEW WHO MY FRIENDS WERE. NOW I AM IN ANOTHER AREA, AND BY AND LARGE MILITARY SERVICE IS RECOGNIZED AND APPRECIATED. BUT EVERY DAY THERE IS NOT A PARADE FOR A VETERAN BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THE MILITARY. SO AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT LIFE. 
          AND THE CHALLENGES THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE A MORE DIFFICULT TIME WITH THEM, MAYBE THEIR SKILLS ARE NOT RECOGNIZED, SO I WOULD SAY IT IS ISOLATION, GETTING AWAY FROM FRIENDS. THAT IS WHERE THE WATCH STANDARDS TRY TO SEE THAT. ENGAGING 90%. 
          BECAUSE UNLESS THEY HAPPEN TO WORK A VETERAN EVENT FROM DAY-TO-DAY. THE KEY IS ISOLATION AND TO ENGAGE THE VETERAN. FRANKLY, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WATCHING TO GET THEM ENGAGED. FORTUNATELY WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF SERVICES HERE. 
          >> OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> WELL, I HAD THIS DOWN AS A PRESENTATION ITEM, SO I THINK WE MAY NEED TO BRING IT BACK IN 
          A DIFFERENT MEETING. >> YEAH, THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW AND TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE, TO SHOW YOU THE PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE. 
          >> WELL, THANK YOU. >> WE TOOK CARE OF IT IN THE CONSENT AGENDA . IT IS TAKEN CARE OF. 
          >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> I WANT TO QUICKLY ADD, SOMETIMES THE SANDS OF TIME SORT OF ARRAY SOME OF OUR MEMORIES. IN THE COMMISSIONER WHO WAS ON THE BOARD IN 2019, I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THIS WAS SPEARHEADED FROM OUR SIDE BY JEREMIAH BLOCKER, HE WORKED CLOSELY WITH ROY DIMOND AS A FORMER MILITARY, HE LOST CLOSE FRIENDS IN IRAQ . I DO NOT WANT THIS TO GO BY WITHOUT REMINDING ONE OF THE JOBS WAS 
          JEREMIAH BLOCKER. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. 
          [3. Public Hearing * MAJMOD 2024-05 Bannon Lakes PUD. Request for a Major Modification to the Bannon Lakes PUD (Ord. 2015-11, as amended) to combine the permitted office and commercial development rights; revise project phasing dates based on recent emergency declaration extensions pursuant to Section 252.363 of the Florida Statutes; clarify buffering and screening; and revise the Master Development Plan (MDP) Text and Map to reflect the proposed changes, specifically located at 250 Duran Drive. The Planning and Zoning Agency heard this request at their regularly scheduled public hearing on August 1, 2024 and recommended approval with a vote of 6-0. Agency member discussion was limited and there was no public comment.]
OKAY. TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WE ARE TAKING NUMBER TWO OFF, SO THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE. THIS IS QUASIJUDICIAL. SO, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. 
          >> NO MEETINGS, NO EMAILS. ACTUALLY, I DID GET AN EMAIL 
          FROM YOU. >> I HAD NO MEETINGS, ONE PLUS 
          EMAIL. >> I HAD THE SAME, NO MEETINGS, 
          ONE EMAIL. >> NO RECORD OF ANY MEETINGS IN 
          ONE EMAIL. >> WITH THAT BEING SAID, GOOD 
          MORNING. >> YOU ONLY GOT ONE EMAIL BECAUSE I AM HOPING THIS IS THE MAJOR MODIFICATION. SO LET'S GO TO THAT ROLE. I AM ACTUALLY HERE ON BEHALF OF ONE PROPERTY , WHICH HAS AN IN PLACE ALONG THIS ROUTE FROM CUSTOM BUILDER. 
          THE PROJECT FROM BERGEN ASSOCIATES DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          SO, TO FAMILIARIZE YOU FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT AWARE, WE ARE LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST MARGIN OF I-95, AND BALLPARK WAY. THERE IS A COMMUNITY. THIS IS A LITTLE OUTDATED BECAUSE THERE IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX , GAS STATION, AND SMOTHER BUSINESSES HERE. THIS IS THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY WATER PUMP STATION RIGHT HERE, IN THE PROPERTY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS 4.3 ACRES IN THIS LOCATION. THEN IN LAKES WAS APPROVED 
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YEARS AGO AS A PROJECT, OVERALL LAND-USE DESIGNATION. IT IS CURRENTLY APPROVED FOR 1286 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 105,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE, AND 15,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE. SO WE CALLED THE 105,000 AND 15,000, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO DO MATH IN A MINUTE. SO, AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY APPROVED AS ZONING FOR THE ENTITLEMENTS I JUST WENT OVER. SO, THE PURPOSES OF THIS MAJOR MODIFICATION ARE TO REVISE THE PUD TO COMBINE THE 15,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICES THEY ALREADY APPROVED AND THE 105,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL SPACE ALREADY APPROVED INTO 120. SO 15,000+105,000 IS 120,000 SQUARE FEET. TOGETHER. BECAUSE WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP MORE THAN 15,000 SQUARE FEET ON HIS PROPERTY. WE ARE COMBINING THOSE TWO TOGETHER TO 120,000 COMBINED FOR OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL , AFTER ALREADY EXISTING AT THE PUD. BY THE WAY, THERE ARE ALREADY 19,070 SQUARE FEET DEVELOPED ALREADY IN BED AND LEG. SO, THERE IS LITTLE LIKELIHOOD TO KNOW LIKELIHOOD THAT 140,000 SQUARE FEET OF THOSE USES WILL BE DEVELOPED. AND THEN, BECAUSE EVERY MAJOR MODIFICATION HAS BEEN UP DATE FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT, INCLUDING THE MATH AND THE TEXT, WE HAVE INCLUDED UPDATES TO THE PHASING AND BUILDOUT , CLARIFYING SOME SCREENING ON THE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF RESIDENTIAL USE AND UPDATING THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO, THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, LIKE I SAID, WE WENT THROUGH A LOT WITH STAFF. AND I APPRECIATE SALINAS HELP IN GETTING ALL THE DETAILS OF LITERALLY DOZENS OF MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLANS INCORPORATED INTO ONE . YOU SEE ALL THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL. THE PROPERTY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS 1.43 ACRES RIGHT HERE OFF TO RAN DRIVE, WHICH CONNECTS TO INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY. YOU WILL ALSO SEE , THIS IS THE SITE, LITERALLY OFF TO RED DRIVE WITH PARKING AREA, STORM WATER. THIS IS THE COUNTY'S UTILITY SITE BACK HERE, THE WATER PUMP STATION, AND BACK IN 2019 WHEN THE COUNTY NEEDED THAT, THE BANNON LAKES DEVELOPMENT DEDICATED THAT PROPERTY TO THE COUNTY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY. 
          SO THAT ACCESS EASEMENT REMAINS IN PLACE FOR THE COUNTY UTILITY DEPARTMENT AND AGREED TO ADDITIONAL PLANNING OF GREAT MORTALS ON THE SIDE. SO THESE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE HAVE A BERM AND A 10 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER OWNED BY THEIR AGE AWAY. 
          THEN YOU HAVE THE 30 FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT. AND PLANTING VEGETATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT EASEMENT FOR PROPOSED OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL. AND SO, I'M SORRY, I'M GOING THE WRONG WAY. THAT BEING SAID, WE REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THIS 
          MAJOR PUD MODIFICATION. >> ANY QUESTIONS? TO PUBLIC 
          COMMENT. >> WE WILL NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          >> 1005 LIKE VERY LAME. I AM A DETAIL GUY. I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS PLAN , 40,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, ONLY REQUIRES 135 PARKING SPACES. THERE ARE 191 PARKING SPACES SHOWN ON THAT PLAN. SO I HAVE SCRATCHED MY HEAD IN THESE MANY WEEKS, WONDERING IF THERE WILL BE MORE THAN 40,000 SQUARE FEET, PARTICULARLY THAT 120,000 IS ENTITLED. AND AS AN ARCHITECT , I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE SITE PLAN. BUT THAT'S OKAY. THE BUILDING COULD'VE BEEN REVERSED SO THAT THE PORTION OF THE BUILDING WAS NOT ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL . BUT I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I JUST HAVE THE QUESTION, AND MAYBE WE CAN ASK MS. AVERY SMITH IF 40,000 SQUARE FEET IS THE MAX THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT . AGAIN, 191 PARKING SPACES. YOU CAN GET 57,000 SQUARE FEET WITH THAT NUMBER. SO IT IS JUST A DETAIL. 
          IT SEEMS TO BE A LOOSE END. THANK YOU. 
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          >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? 
          >> WEST CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, YES THE DETAILS ARE IMPORTANT, TOO. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS IN YOUR PACKET, THESE EMERGENCY DECLARATIONS ALWAYS ALLOW THESE DEVELOPERS TO GO ON AND ON . THERE IS A HURRICANE COMING UP, TOO, MAYBE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL CUTOFF DATE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND WHAT IS THE REVISION PRODUCT DATE? SHE ALLUDED TO THOSE WORDS BUT NEVER SAID WHAT IT IS. I THINK THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS IN DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING AND SOMEONE ELSE COMES UP. THAT IS WHAT THE LAW SAYS YOU CAN DO. THAT IS WHY THESE DEVELOPMENTS GO ON AND 
          ON. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, WE POSED TO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          >> I AM PRETTY SURE THAT THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 2011 FOR A 10 YEAR EXPERIENCE AND EXTENDED IN 
          2021. >> YOU ARE CORRECT. 
          >> TIED TO HER QUESTION PREVIOUSLY. 
          >> AND ALSO , SO , THE SITE PLAN SAYS MAXIMUM 40,000 SQUARE FEET. THAT CAN BE ANY OFFICE OR COMMERCIAL USE . SO THE PUD IS SILENT ON PARKING WHICH REVERTS TO THE LAND OF ELEMENT CODE. 
          SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE IS A NAIL SALON PUT IN THERE, THERE IS A LINE ITEM OR PARKING REGULATIONS FOR HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED FOR A NAIL SALON GRAY HAIR SALON, VERSUS A MEDICAL OFFICE WHICH MIGHT BE MORE PARKING SPACES. 
          SO WHATEVER THE USES FINALLY ARE IN THIS BUILDING, YOUR STAFF WILL THEN KNOW WHAT THE USES ARE AND CAN WORK TO CALCULATE THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE THAT MANY PARKING SPACES DEPENDING ON HOW MANY ARE IN THE BUILDING. BUT IT DOES SAY ON THE PLAN, MAXIMUM 40,000 SQUARE FEET. ALSO, IN YOUR PACKAGE THERE IS A REDLINE OF THE TEXT THAT SHOWS THE CHANGES TO THE CODE, AND RIGHT NOW UNDER SECTION R, WHICH IS PROJECT PHASING, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE PROJECT IS ONE 15 YEAR PHASE. CONSTRUCTION COMMENCED IN 2015 AND SHALL BE COMPLETED, THE DATE IS CHANGING FROM SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2038 TO SEPTEMBER 25TH, 43. AND THAT IS AN OPERATIONAL FLAW IN SECTION 252.3643 FLORIDA STATUTES. THE LAW OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT BUT COMPLY WITH THE LAW. THIS UPDATE HAS TO BE FOR THE ENTIRE PUD, NOT SPECIFIC TO VISIT PARTICULAR PROPERTY, WHICH IS WHY WE WENT INTO THAT. THE PUD WAS ALMOST FILLED UP. 
          >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? 
          >> YES, I WAS LOOKING AT THE STAFF REVIEW ABOUT THE BUFFER FOR ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL BUFFER, THE DEDICATED 25 FOOT LANDSCAPE BERM. THAT INCLUDES VINYL, WHICH IS NOT LANDSCAPE . 
          AND AT THE BOTTOM IT SAYS THE 30 FOOT EASEMENT WILL ALLOW INCREASED TRAFFIC ALONG THE COMMON LINE CAUSING DELIVERY OF SOLID WASTE TRUCKS WITH RESIDENTIAL. ANYWAY TO KEEP THAT BUFFER? FOR WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE DOING? 
          >> YES, JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND OF WHAT HAPPENED, IN 2019 WHEN WE HAD TO GO BACK TO THE OVERALL PLAN, THE DEVELOPER, WHICH IS NOT MR. GRUBBS, THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A PARK SITE. THE COUNTY CAME TO THE DEVELOPER IN 2018 AND 2019 AND SAID WE NEED A WATER PUMP STATION SITE RIGHT THERE. AND SO THE DEVELOPER DECREED THAT THIS WOULD BE A WATER PUMP STATION SITE AND PUT IN A 30 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT. SO THE COUNTY UTILITY DEPARTMENT CAN GET BACK THERE TO THE PUMP STATION SITE. IT WAS INTENDED SINCE 2019 THAT THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS PROPERTY. THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN SLATED FOR COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USES SINCE 2019. AND WITH PROVIDING THE SAME BUFFERING A LITTLE BIT MORE, THIS IS THE SAME ACCESS EASEMENT FROM FIVE YEARS AGO. THE LOT SEVEN A PARCEL BACK HERE AS A BERM AND LANDSCAPING. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A FENCE 
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THERE THAT MR. GRUBBS IS GOING TO PLANT CRÊPE MYRTLE'S ON THIS SIDE OF THAT DRIVEWAY, SO YOUR UTILITY DEPARTMENT TAKES HER TRUCKS BACK . THERE COULD BE AN INSTANCE WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A GARBAGE TRUCK OR A DELIVERY TRUCK GOES HERE, BUT THE IDEA IS TO PUT MOST OF THE TRAFFIC TO COME PARK IN THIS PARKING LOT HERE AND THEN COME BACK OUT I GP. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ALL BEEN APPROVED AND CHANGED , ONLY CHANGED WITH RESPECT TO THIS PUD AGREEMENT TO PLANT THE CRÊPE MYRTLE'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          >> I WISH IT WERE MORE. >> WELL, AGAIN, I RESPECT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. BUT THIS CONDITION HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR FIVE YEARS, BECAUSE THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT NEEDED THAT EASEMENT. OTHERWISE THAT EASEMENT WOULD NOT BE THERE. IT IS PART OF HIS PROPERTY AND THEY ARE HONORING THE COUNTY. 
          >> OKAY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COURT? 
          >> I WILL MOVE THAT THERE ARE NO COMMENTS. 
          >> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> 2024 41. 
          >> APPROVING BASED UPON SIX FINDINGS PROVIDED IN THE 
          REPORT. >> SECOND. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THAT PASSES 4-1. THAT 
          [4. Public Hearing * Second Reading for the Amendments to the Tourist Development Plan Ordinance for the removal of program funding limits. At the June 17, 2024 meeting, the Tourist Development Council made a unanimous recommendation to remove programmatic funding limits from the Tourist Development Plan (Ordinance 2021-43) for the St. Augustine Amphitheater Debt Service, Nights of Lights, Annual Holiday Fireworks, The PLAYERS and the Visitor Information Centers. The funding limits were originally included in the 2011 version of the Tourist Development Plan and have not been modified since. The funding limits are no longer reasonable as a result of program growth and inflation. The Tourist Development Council indicated a preference for the funding limits to be removed with programmatic funding requests reviewed annually as part of the budget process. The first reading of the proposed changes to the ordinance were included on the August 6th BCC regular agenda.]
BRINGS US TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          GOOD MORNING MS. MEEKS . >> GOOD MORNING. DIRECTOR TOURISM AND CULTURAL DEVELOPMENT. I AM HERE TODAY AS PART OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THE SECOND RATING FOR THE REQUESTED OR RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AS I JUST MENTIONED, THIS IS THE SECOND RATING. AS A REMINDER, THE FIRST READING FOR THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES WERE PRESENTED THE AUGUST 6TH MEETING AS PART OF THE REGULAR AGENDA. IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS FOR THAT SECOND. THIS IS BEING BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AS A RESULT OF A RECOMMENDATION TOWARDS THE DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, WHICH WAS PROVIDED AT THE JUNE 17TH MEETING. THE TDC HAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE REMOVE SOME LONG-STANDING FUNDING LIMITS FROM THE TOURIST FUNDING PLAN. THE FUNDING LIMITS WERE ORIGINALLY PUT IN PLACE IN THAT ORDINANCE IN 2011, AND THE ORDINANCE HAS SINCE BEEN MODIFIED SEVERAL TIMES. 
          HOWEVER, THOSE PROGRAMMATIC FUNDING LIMITS HAVE BEEN LEFT IN PLACE. IT IS FELT THAT THOSE ARE NO LONGER REASONABLE OR NECESSARY. THE LIMITS THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE TODAY INCLUDE THOSE THAT ARE SHOWN HERE ON THE SCREEN. IT IS A $460,000 LIMIT FOR DEBT SERVICE, $100,000 FOR THE NIGHTS AND LIGHTS PROGRAM INCLUDES NIGHTLIGHTS FOR THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH. FIREWORKS DISPLAYS, WHICH ARE BOTH THE NEW YEAR'S FIREWORKS DISPLAYS AND FOURTH OF JULY FIREWORKS DISPLAYS BOTH PROVIDED. THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP REPORT AND FUNDING FOR THE INFORMATION CENTERS, WITH TO OPERATE INFORMATION CENTERS INCLUDING IN DOWNTOWN SAINT AUGUSTINE AND ONE AT THE PIER BEACH. SO, IF THE RECOMMENDED ORDINANCE CHANGES ARE APPROVED, THEN THIS FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED MORE ON THIS MONTH WILL INCLUDE SOME CHANGES THAT THE TORAH'S COUNSEL RECOMMENDED TO INCREASE THE LISTED PROGRAMS. THE TOTAL RECOMMENDED FUNDING INCREASE COLLECTIVELY CALLED THE PROGRAMS WE ARE SHOWN, $255,000. AND THAT IS NOT ACTUALLY IMPACT THE AMPHITHEATER DEBT SERVICE, THAT WILL INCREASE, IT IS REALLY TRULY JUST FOR THE PROGRAMMATIC OPTIONS . THEREFORE, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, WE HAVE INCLUDED A MOTION, THIS MOTION WOULD AMEND AND REVISE AND RESTATE THE EXISTING AMENDMENT, THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY PROGRAM PLAN, AND 
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WOULD REMOVE THOSE LIMITS AS WE HAVE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN FOR THIS DISTRICT PROGRAMS, WHICH INCLUDES THE AMPHITHEATER SERVICE, NIGHTS OF LIGHTS, AND ANNUAL HOLIDAY FIREWORKS, PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP, AND INFORMATION CENTERS. I CAN NOW 
          ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE 
          BOARD? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MS. MEEKS, I RECEIVED A CALL , THEY WEREN'T SURE THAT THIS WAS THE BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS. COULD YOU PLEASE TALK ABOUT THE SOURCE OF THIS FUND AND WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM? JUST TO ELIMINATE ANY CONFUSION. 
          >> ABSOLUTELY. THERE IS A STATUTE , A FLORIDA STATUTE 25 DODGE 114, WHICH ALLOWS ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND ALL OF THE COUNTIES TO LEVY TOWARDS A DEVELOPMENT TAX. AND THAT IS A TAX THAT IS ON THE SHORT-TERM ACCOMMODATIONS OF SIX MONTHS OR LESS. ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS ELIGIBLE TO LEVY A FIVE CENT TAX , SO THAT IS ON EVERYBODY WHO IS STAYING IN A HOTEL, IN A MOTEL, ON A CAMPSITE OR AIRBNB FOR ANY PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS OR LESS. AND THAT IS REMITTED TO THE COUNTY. THEN THAT SAME STATUTE REQUIRES YOU TO DO A COUPLE OF THINGS. IT REQUIRES THE TAURUS DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. IT REQUIRES US TO HAVE A PLAN THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, AND REQUIRES THAT ALL FUNDS THAT ARE PLOTTED UNDER THE TAURUS DEVELOPMENT ARE USED FOR TOURISM PURPOSES. IT IS A NICE CHUNK OF MONEY. WE BRING IN ROUGHLY $25 MILLION A YEAR AT THIS POINT, AND WE JUST SPEND THAT ON SUPPORTING TOURISM THROUGH MARKETING, BUT ALSO GOES TO SUPPORTING DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT ARE ALSO AIMED OUR RESIDENCE. SUCH AS WE ARE DEVELOPING A SERIES OF PARKS, AND WITH THOSE FUNDS WE MAINTAIN A LOT OF BEACH WALK OVER US, BEACH TRASH PICKUP . SO IT IS TOURISM PURPOSES, BUT WE DO TRY TO LEVERAGE IT WHEN POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WORKING AS A COMMUNITY OVERALL FOR EVERYONE. 
          >> NOT PROPERTY TAXES. JUST HOTEL STAYS, AIRBNB'S. 
          >> AND IT HAS TO BE USED FOR TOURISM PURPOSES. THAT IS 
          CORRECT. >> THANK YOU, TARA. 
          >> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? 
          >> WE ARE NOW OPENING IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL BE ON THE 
          RECORD FOR THREE MINUTES. >> GOOD MORNING. ALBERT SILAS, THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. I FULLY SUPPORT IT. SO THAT STATUTE HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED FOR INFLATION FOR A DECADE. ANOTHER THING THAT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED FOR A DECADE IS THE AMOUNT OF DEDICATION TO CATEGORY TWO, WHICH IS NOT EVEN KEEPING UP WITH INFLATION. I SUGGESTED SOME POINT YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, AS WELL. BUT THIS ONE IS A GREAT FIRST STEP . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE TAURUS DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL FOR STEPPING UP THIS MONTH, AND HELPING OUT THE CULTURAL COMMUNITY BY FILLING IN WHERE THE STATE HAD CANCELED CULTURAL GRANTS FOR THE WHOLE STATE. THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAD RECENTLY , IN RECENT YEARS, GIVEN MORE TOWARDS PARKS AND CULTURAL PROJECTS FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY , THEN ST. JOHNS COUNTY DID. SO , BY DOING WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DO NOW, THEY JUST BARELY MAKE OUT WHAT THE STATE WOULD'VE DONE THIS YEAR. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. IT REALLY HELPS. A LOT OF FOLKS WERE LIVING ON A SHOESTRING. SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I HOPE WE WILL CONTINUE TO DISCUSS ARTS AND CULTURE. THANK 
          YOU. >> CITY MANAGER, SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH. I AM HERE WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR. TDC MONEY, PARTICULARLY , HAS BENEFITED MY CITY IN TERMS OF OUR KNIGHTS OF LIGHTS AND FIREWORKS SHOW. THE FIREWORKS SHOW STARTED AROUND 2005 , HAS CONTINUED ON UNINTERRUPTED, EVEN DURING COVID TIMES. IT HAS ATTRACTED MANY, MANY PEOPLE. WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A MUCH LARGER SHOW AND BROUGHT IN PEOPLE FROM GEORGIA. WE ALSO USE THE TDC MONEY FOR ELIMINATIONS . WRAPPING TREES WITH CHRISTMAS LIGHTS . SO IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE CONTINUED FUNDING. TDC MONEY FOR THOSE PURPOSES. 
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          >> JUST ADD THAT, ALSO ORNAMENT LIGHTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO ADD THIS YEAR. OTHER PLAZAS THAT WE WANT TO ADD TO. LOOKING 
          AT INCREASING THE FUNDS. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, WE WILL 
          CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD, AND I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION TO AN ACT 20 2442 AMENDING AND REVISING 2011 DASH 31, AS AMENDED, THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY TAURUS DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO REMOVE DRAMATIC FUNDING LIMITS OF THE SAINT AUGUSTINE THEATER SERVICE, NIGHTS OF LIGHTS, ANNUAL HOLIDAY FIREWORKS, THE PLAYERS , AND 
          OTHER SORTING ORGANIZATIONS. >> SECOND. 
          >> MOTION AND A SECOND. THAT PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU. THAT 
          [5. Discussion Item - Plan for Continuity in Tourism Marketing. Since November of 2022, the Purchasing Department has issued three (3) RFP solicitations for Tourism Marketing Services. RFP 23-19 (issued 11/29/22) received six responses, two of which were deemed responsive and evaluated by the Evaluation Committee. All proposals were rejected due to concerns related to the response. RFP 23-19R (issued 3/20/23) received seven responses, four of which were deemed responsive and evaluated by the Evaluation Committee. All proposals were rejected due to concerns related to the responses. RFP 1824 (issued 6/18/24) received six responses, three of which were deemed responsive and forwarded to evaluators. Prior to evaluation, it was decided to reject all proposals and pursue a solicitation for management services rather than marketing services. Misc. 1980 (issued 8/16/24) is posted for the purposes of securing short-term marketing management services, preventing a gap in services while a marketing management solicitation and contract are established, and a marketing firm is secured by the contracted management firm. RFP 1976 (issued 8/29/24) is posted for the purposes of contracting with a marketing management firm as directed by TDC and Administration. The existing tourism marketing contract with the Visitors and Convention Bureau expires September 30, 2024, and this is a discussion item for the Board.]
TAKES THIS INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. MISS LOCKLEAR. 
          >> IN MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. THIS ITEM IS A DISCUSSION ITEM REGARDING THE CONTINUATION PLAN FOR TOURISM MARKETING , KIND OF A REVIEW OF WHAT IS BEEN DONE AND WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING TO ENSURE MARKETING SERVICES GOING FORWARD. SINCE 2022, WE HAVE ISSUED THREE TOURISM MARKETING SERVICES, ALL THREE OF THOSE RFPS HAVE BEEN REJECTED WITH A NEW INTENT TO MOVE FORWARD FOR SELECTING A MANAGEMENT FIRM, AS OPPOSED TO A DIRECT MARKETING FIRM. WE ARE CURRENTLY OUT FOR SOLICITATION FOR AN INTERIM MARKETING MANAGEMENT FIRM TO PREVENT A GAP IN SERVICES OF MARKETING. SO, FOR UP TO SIX MONTHS OR $250,000 THEY WILL CONTINUE THE MARKETING WHILE RRS THE FOR THE TOURIST AND MANAGEMENT FIRM IS OUT ON THE STREET. IT IS CURRENTLY OUT ON THE STREET. IT HAS BEEN POSTED SINCE THE 29TH. 
          IT IS UNDER BLACKOUT, JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WE CANNOT TALK ABOUT THAT ARE THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROCESS. BUT THAT RFP WILL COME BACK IN AND THE INTERIM SERVICES WILL HOPEFULLY KEEP US MOVING SO THAT UNTIL THAT CONTRACT IS DONE WE WILL NOT HAVE A GAP IN SERVICES FOR MARKETING. I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THERE IS NO ACTION NECESSARY BY THE BOARD TODAY, AND LESS YOU HAVE DIRECTION FOR US TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT WE ARE ALREADY DOING. 
          >> HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE TO IT INTO PLACE SOME SORT OF DAMAGE. 
          >> IT IS ACTUALLY DUE NEXT WEEK, AND INFORMAL SOLICITATION. THAT WILL BE FOR SIX MONTHS, OR FOR $250,000. 
          THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD. WE WILL VOID THAT CONTRACT BECAUSE IT IS UNDER THE THRESHOLD THAT ALLOWS COUNTY MINISTERS OR MYSELF TO SIGN THAT CONTRACT. AND WHEN THAT ONE IS READY TO AWARD, THAT WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR THE AWARD TO THE MANAGEMENT FIRM MANAGEMENT 
          CONTRACT. >> OKAY. 
          >> I KNOW THIS WAS PRESENTATION ONLY, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME MEMBERS OF THE BCB THAT ARE HERE, IF ANYONE OF THEM WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE HEAR THEM . WE ARE MOVING ALONG FAIRLY QUICKLY THIS MORNING. IF THERE IS 
          ANYONE HERE FROM BCB . >> SUSAN PHILLIPS IS HERE, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM HER. AND I WAS INTENDING TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT. IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY FULL AUDIENCE. REOPENING 
          OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT? >> WE WILL OPENING OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA NUMBER FIVE. YOU CAN HAVE THREE 
          MINUTES. >> IN MORNING, EVERYONE. I'M SUSAN PHILLIPS, THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY VISITORS BUREAU. I AM GLAD TO BE HERE THIS MORNING. I APPRECIATE ALL THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE DONE FOR US IN OUR TOURISMO COMMUNITY. WE HAD NEARLY 33,000 TOURISM RELATED EMPLOYEES. YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF THEM IN THE AUDIENCE HERE, WITH RED BUTTONS IN SUPPORT OF THE VISITORS BUREAU. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD FOR THE NEARLY LAST 15 YEARS TO CONTINUE TO AMPLIFIER TOURISM EFFORTS HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE ARE SO PROUD TO WORK ON THE HALF OF YOU ALL, AND CERTAINLY WE UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. WE ARE A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED BECAUSE OF THE TIMING ON BEING ABLE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CONTINUITY IN ADVERTISING OR THE COUNTY. BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO DO ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD. NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE RFPS OR ANYTHING, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR PROPOSITION ON 
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THAT. WE CONTINUE TO FOLLOW AND MONITOR AND DO OUR VERY BEST JOB FOR ALL OF YOU AND FOR OUR COUNTY, AND FOR ALL THE TOURISM. LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE SEVERAL FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE WHO FELT IT IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO COME FORWARD. THANK YOU. 
          >> IN MORNING, COMMISSIONER. I AM HERE REPRESENTING MYSELF IN THE INFORMAL INDEPENDENCE ADVOCATES GROUP FOR RACIAL EQUITY AS WELL AS THE DIRECTORS , THE NONPROFIT THAT OPERATES AT THE CULTURAL CENTER. SUPPORTING ITS EFFORTS TO TELL THE STORY OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY BLACK HISTORY AND ITS ADVOCATES, AND ALSO A COUPLE OF CHAIR MEMBER SERVE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. I BELIEVE YOU ARE AWARE THAT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, REGINA GAIL PHILLIPS, IS A MEMBER OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY TOURISM DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, WHO CURRENTLY SERVES AS CHAIR. ALSO TOURISM IS OUR LARGEST INDUSTRY IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, OVER 32,000 TOURISM RELATED EMPLOYEES, AND OVER $3.8 BILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT. THE COUNTY HAS LONG ACTIVELY SUPPORTED THE TOURISM INDUSTRY THROUGH CIVIC EVENT TAX DOLLARS, GENERALLY RELYING ON TDC, WHICH INCLUDES REPRESENTATION AND LEADERSHIP OF OUR THREE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, THREE OWNER OPERATORS OF TOURIST ACCOMMODATION SUBJECT TO TAX, AND THREE OTHER PERSONS INVOLVED IN TOURISM ACCOMMODATIONS. SAINT AUGUSTINE REACHES VISITORS IN A CONVENTION BUREAU COLLECTIVELY KNOWN AS THE BCB, FUNDED BY THE COUNTY AND SUCCESSFULLY MANAGE MARKETING FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY DESTINATIONS FOR MANY YEARS. HOWEVER, AS WE HAVE LEARNED, THE MARKETING CONTRACT EXPIRES IN ONLY FOUR WEEKS ON SEPTEMBER 30TH. GAIL ALERTED ME AND MY FELLOW FRIENDS OF LINCOLNVILLE BOARD MEMBERS TO THIS LOOMING ISSUE LAST WEEK. WE UNDERSTAND AND HAVE HEARD TODAY THAT THE TOURISM COMMUNITY GENERALLY AND THE TDC IN PARTICULAR HAVE BEEN CONCERNED THEY WOULD BE LACK OF CONTINUITY IN OUR ADVERTISING AND PROMOTIONAL PROGRAMS, WHICH WOULD PUT A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TOURISM RELATED JOBS AT RISK. BUT IT APPEARS THE COUNTY HAS DEVELOPED A SOUND PLAN BECAUSE WE SEE AND HAVE LEARNED ABOUT THE SHORT TERM ARE THE THAT WOULD BRIDGE THE GAP . SOON GIVEN EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE TO DEVELOP STRONG PROPOSALS IN RESPONSE TO THESE CONTRACT SOLICITATIONS, SO THAT THEY CAN BE AVOIDED. WE ALSO EXPECT THAT , PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO LONG-TERM CONTRACTS, INCORPORATING A STRONG HERITAGE TOUR INTO MARKETING PLANS. 
          HERITAGE TOURISM HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A GROWING AND LUCRATIVE SUBMARKET. ADVANTAGE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKE OUR STATION UNIQUE, NOT ONLY IN THE U.S. BUT ALSO THE WORLD TO INCLUDE UNIQUE SPANISH HERITAGE. NOT TO MENTION LINCOLNVILLE MUSEUM, WE ALL HOPE , SOON TO INCLUDE THE FLORIDA BLACK HISTORY. PLEASE INCLUDE A SOUND PLAN THAT WILL AVOID ANY LAPSE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. 
          >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE? 
          >> 109 LAURELWOOD WAY, APARTMENT NUMBER 10232087. 
          WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. I GUESS I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW KIND OF LAST MINUTE THIS IS . WE NEED TOURISM MARKETING PEOPLE. THIS IS THE ENGINE THAT DRIVES THIS COUNTY. I JUST DID A REALLY QUICK CALCULATION , THE LAST FIGURES I SAW, WE HAVE ABOUT 77 THOUSAND EMPLOYED PERSONS WITHIN OUR COUNTY. 
          TOTAL. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS ACCURATE OR NOT, BUT IF 33,000 OF THEM ARE TOURISM RELATED, THAT A LITTLE MORE THAN 40% . 
          WE BETTER GET THIS MARKETING PLAN FIGURED OUT QUICK. PEOPLE HAVE A SHORT MEMORY, YOU HAVE TO KEEP TELLING THEM THINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR IT TO SINK IN. AND WHEN WE ARE PUTTING THESE DOLLARS OUT TO MARKET OURSELVES, YOU JUST CAN'T DO IT ONE TIME AND IT IS DONE. YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP AFTER IT. I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB. SOME PEOPLE THINK WE HAVE DONE TOO GOOD OF A JOB BECAUSE THE SUMMERTIME IS HERE GET A 
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LITTLE ROUGH. YOU KNOW, EVER SINCE I'VE LIVED HERE, I HAVE BEEN AMAZED AT HOW MANY THINGS ARE AVAILABLE TO US AS RESIDENTS THAT WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE IF IT WEREN'T FOR TOURISTS . THINGS LIKE SPECIAL PROGRAMS , MUSIC EVENTS, WE COULD NOT SUSTAIN JUST ON PEOPLE LIVING IN OUR COUNTY, THINGS LIKE THE VITAL LIGHTS. SO MANY THINGS WE DO HERE, AND ENJOY . WE ENJOY THAT BECAUSE TOURISTS COME HERE, THEY SPEND THEIR DOLLARS, AND THEY SPEND THEIR DOLLARS NOT ONLY IN HOTELS, WHICH WE GET THE VALUE FROM THE BED TAX. BUT GO INTO ANY PUBLIX OR WALMART AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK, WHEN THERE ON SATURDAY, THEY ARE LINED UP IN THE SALES TAX THAT WE GET FROM THEM. GASOLINE TAXES WILL WE GO TO THE PUMP. 
          TOURISTS ARE GOOD THINGS. IT IS NOT A BAD THING. WE NEED TO 
          KEEP THEM COMING. THANK YOU. >> HI THERE, BENJAMIN BRANDO, OWNER AND OPERATOR OF TRIP AND ADVENTURE COMPANY. I AM ALSO THE BUSINESS MEMBER COORDINATOR FOR THE FLORIDA TRAILS ASSOCIATION AND THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA EDUCATION COORDINATOR. 
          I AM FULLY INVESTED IN OUR ECOTOURISM INDUSTRY . THE FOLKS AT THE BCB HAVE BEEN TREMENDOUSLY HELPFUL. A MAJORITY OF MY TRAFFIC TO MY WEBSITE COMES FROM MY LISTING ON THEIR WEBSITE , MORE SO THAN OTHERS WEBSITES THAT I PAY TO BE ON , A MUCH HIGHER AMOUNT. AND WHAT THEY HAVE GOING ON FOR ME IS TREMENDOUS IN TERMS OF INTERRUPTIONS, AND MY BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE INTERRUPTED. NOT JUST SPEAKING OF MYSELF, BUT ALSO HELPING GENERATE BUSINESS FOR OTHER TOURISM OPERATORS IN OUR COUNTY. AND I HAVE OVER TWO DOZEN OTHER EXPERIENCED OPERATORS ON MY WEBSITE FOR ALL COUNTING ON ME TO CONTINUE DELIVERING TRAFFIC. IF THERE IS ANY INTERRUPTION FROM WHAT SUSAN PHILLIPS IS DOING, I WILL BE PERSONALLY IMPACTED. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT HER IN WHATEVER SHE NEEDS. THANK YOU. 
          >> LESLIE KEYS, ALL RELATED TO HERITAGE TOURISM, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR MAKING SURE WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THIS. BCB IN 2021, CELEBRATING THE BICENTENNIAL OF THE COUNTY AND CELEBRATING 200 YEARS OF TOURISM. WE CAN STOP AT THE INTERNATIONAL BOUNDARY OF THE STATE OF GEORGIA, BRINGING TOURISTS AND VISITORS HERE SINCE THEN. I'M SURE THEY COULD HANDLE THAT 200+ YEARS AGO, WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THE TOURISM STATES THE FOREFRONT. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT. 
          >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ROSANNE FLYNN, I AM THE OWNER OF SAINT AUGUSTINE'S FAMILY AND CHAIR OF SAILING ASSOCIATION. FOR US WE HAVE BEEN IN IS THIS FOR OVER 30 YEARS, AND TOURISM IS JUST THE LIFEBLOOD OF OUR COMPANY. 
          PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES AND EVEN FROM OTHER COUNTRIES JUST TO TAKE SAILING LESSONS WITH US AS WELL AS OTHER ACTIVITIES . THE BCB HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US WITH OUR MARKETING, JUST MEETING WITH THEM PERSONALLY, AND MAKING SURE IF THEY DO THAT HANDS-ON ASSISTANCE, I AM SURE THEY DO IT WITH EVERYONE ELSE. SO I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE BCB CONTINUES TO HAVE PART 
          OF HAVING THE TOURISM HERE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD MORNING. I'M COMMISSIONER CYNTHIA GARRETT FROM THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, AND I CAME TO SUPPORT SUSAN PHILLIPS IN THE BCB, BECAUSE I LOVE THE BOARD IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. 
          I'VE SEEN THE WONDERFUL WORK THEY DO IT MARKETING, AND HOW IT IMPACTS OUR CITY. WE HAVE TO DO WHATEVER IS NECESSARY, BECAUSE WE ARE THE OLDEST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES. AND WE 
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NEED TO BRING THE CITY ALIVE LIKE IT HAS BEEN, THROUGH PEOPLE JUST COMING. THERE ARE TWO PLACES IN FLORIDA THAT ARE THE BEST, AND ONE, EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE MICKEY MOUSE AT DISNEY, BUT EVERYBODY THAT IS OLDER THAN THAT WANT TO SEE THE HERITAGE. THEY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT SAINT AUGUSTINE. I HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE HAVING WORKED FROM THE CITY PRIOR TO BEING ON THE COMMISSION, SO MANY PEOPLE COMING INTO OUR BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY . YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO STEP UP AND DO WHAT IS NECESSARY, SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOST DESIRE TO COME TO SAINT AUGUSTINE. AND MARKETING IS ESSENTIAL OF THAT. WE DEFINITELY HAVE THE AND IMPACT AND STAND PLACE. LAST YEAR THEY HAD THAT BEAUTIFUL CONCERT THAT WE HAD AT FRANCIS FIELD, THAT WE APPROVED, THE AMPHITHEATER. 
          AND I'M TELLING YOU, THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT CAME HERE AND IT WAS SO ORGANIZED, AND PEOPLE LEFT HERE AND THE BUSINESSES THRIVED, BECAUSE OF THE MARKETING AND KNOWING ABOUT THE HOTELS, ALL THE THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THERE WAS A HURRICANE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO COME, AND 70 PEOPLE CANCELED THOSE HOTELS, BUT HAVING THAT CONCERT, THEY WERE ABLE TO RECOUP THOSE BY HAVING THAT CONCERT. SO, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, I AM FOR YOU TO DO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO HELP THE TDC CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND BE EFFECTIVE IN OUR 
          COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. DANIEL ANDERSON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SAINT AUGUSTINE . I LIKE PUBLIC SPEAKING ABOUT AS MUCH AS I LIKE HAVING MY FINGERNAILS PULLED OUT, BUT I'M WILLING TO DO THIS FOR SUSAN BECAUSE SHE IS INCREDIBLE. SINCE WE JOINED THE BCB ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREDIBLE TERM ESTIMATE. WE CANCELED THE 17 YOUR MEMBERSHIP WITH ANOTHER ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THE POWERFUL IMPACT THAT THEIR MARKETING EFFORT HAS HAD AN ORGANIZATION. WE ARE ACTUALLY FEATURED IN SOUTHERN LIVING MAGAZINE COMING UP, SO I KNOW OUR ORGANIZATION HAS PERSONALLY SEEN A LOT OF ADDITIONAL EXPOSURE AS A RESULT OF THEIR WORK. SO, REALLY ENCOURAGING YOU TO SUPPORT THEM AND WE WANT 
          TO THANK THEM FOR ALL YOU DO. >> HELLO, IT IS ALBERT SILAS AGAIN. 83 BRIDGE STREET, LINCOLNVILLE. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE KNOW THE BCB, THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER A DECADE. THIS IS A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW. I REALLY APPRECIATE THESE FOLKS. PLEASE HELP THEM OUT. 
          >> GOOD MORNING, MARIA ALVAREZ, 479 SAN AUGUSTINE. I AM THE CFO OF HISTORIC. WE ARE THE LARGEST RE-ENACTMENT AND HISTORICAL SOCIETY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. WE DO LIVING HISTORY. 
          WE RELY SOLELY ON THE TDC 501 G3, AND WE RELY ON THE BCB FOR ADVERTISEMENT. WITHOUT EITHER ONE OF THOSE, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE DO. WE PRESENT THE HISTORY OF FLORIDA, WHICH HAS A RACIAL AND CULTURALLY DIVERSE HISTORY. 
          BECAUSE OF US, PEOPLE FIND OUT WHAT OUR HISTORY REPRESENTS AND A LOT OF THINGS THEY NEVER KNEW BEFORE. WE WERE THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE DOCUMENTARY AMERICAN, A TRUE STORY. WE RELY ON BOTH OF THESE PEOPLE. THE BCB SUPPORTS US IN ANYTHING WE DO. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU HAVING COMPASSION . THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          >> HELLO. SALLY O'HARA. AND I AM NOT 3025 KINGS ROAD. BEEN THERE 50 YEARS PLUS, WORKING IN THE TOURISM INDUSTRY FOR AT LEAST 20. DIRECTLY IN SAINT AUGUSTINE AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MAINSTREET AND NOW HASTINGS. WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS ECONOMICALLY DEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA. THE BCB IN ALL ASPECTS HAS BEEN TREMENDOUSLY HELPFUL IN PROMOTING TOURISM, AND I ALSO AM INVOLVED WITH NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE NATIONAL BYWAY FOUNDATION, AS WELL AS MAINSTREET AMERICA. 
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AND I HAVE WITNESSED OVER TIME , SEEN THE DATA, THAT IF THERE IS CUTS IN TOURISM IT IS DEVASTATING FOR AN ECONOMY. AND THAT IS OUR LIFE WOULD IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. WE NEED CONTINUATION OF SERVICES AND SUPPORT OF EXPERIENCE ENTITIES SUCH AS THE BCB AND SUSAN PHILLIPS , AND HER CREW. THANK 
          YOU VERY MUCH. >> HELLO, I OWN THE LOCAL HOTEL ON ANASTASIA BOULEVARD. AND I JUST WANTED TO ALSO SAY THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE THE SUPPORT OF SUSAN PHILLIPS . PERSONALLY, THEY HAVE HELPED ME NUMEROUS TIMES BECOME SUCCESSFUL , AND I LEAN ON HER IN THEIR TEAM FOR ADVICE AND LEADERSHIP ON ALL THINGS SAN AUGUSTINE. THEY ARE THE EXPERTS IN THE LOCAL ECONOMY AND LOCAL TOURISM , ALSO GETTING LOCAL ADVERTISING, INTERNATIONAL ADVERTISING. CONTINUING THEIR SERVICES WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO ALL TOURISM INDUSTRIES. 
          >> THE TOURISM BUSINESSES IN THE DOWNTOWN SAINT AUGUSTINE ENTRY COURT OR ARE NOT BIG MASSIVE MONEYMAKERS. YOU CANNOT HAVE MISTAKES IN THE MARKETING ADVERTISEMENT, NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON THOSE BUSINESSES. LASTLY, I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THE SAN AUGUSTINE BUSINESS COALITION STANDS FIRMLY AND UNWAVERINGLY 
          BEHIND THE BCB. THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE. CORPORATE EVENTS, WE ARE A DESTINATION MANAGEMENT COMPANY. WHAT MY COMPANY DOES IS WE ARE ASCENSION OF A SALES TEAM. WHEN A CORPORATE GROUP COMES TO A LOCAL HOTEL WE PROVIDE ALL THE EXTRA CURRICULAR ACTIVITIES FOR EVERYBODY TO DO. ON TOP OF THAT HAVING THIS GEM OF A CITY IS BRINGING THEM TO SAINT AUGUSTINE. IF IT IS FOR A HISTORICAL WALKING TOUR SUPPORTING A FISHING CHARTER OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES, I WILL SAY THAT ONE OF MY LIFELINES FOR MY BUSINESS IS THE BCB. THEY SEND OUT NEEDS TO US AND GET US IN CONTACT WITH CORPORATE GROUPS THAT ARE COMING, OR FIGHTING THE CITY TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO BRING THE BUSINESS HERE. I GET INVOLVED WITH THAT, I TAKE A LOT OF 
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
          THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE? 
          >> GOOD MORNING, I'M JASON KERN, THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE RESORT AT BEACH BOULEVARD. MY COMPANY MANAGES ABOUT 60 HOTELS AROUND THE UNITED STATES. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THIS, I AM SEEING THE BIGGER MEETINGS, TALKING ABOUT MARKETING, DESTINATIONS AND HOW COMPETITIVE IT IS. WE HAVE A LONG-TERM PLAN TO BE COMPETITIVE. WITH CHARLESTON, SAVANNAH, ET CETERA. I THINK WE KEEP SEEING THE SHORT-TERM FIXES, AND I HOPE WE CAN PUT IN A LONG-TERM PLAN HERE AND REALLY GIVE THE COMMUNITY THE LONG-TERM PLAN. MOST ADVERTISERS REALLY LOOK FOR COMMITMENT LONG-TERM. AND I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE WITH THE LAST RFP PROCESS. WE DIDN'T GET A LOT OF RESULTS BECAUSE THE PLAN WAS KIND OF TO SHORT-TERM. SO I HOPE WE CAN LOOK AT IT FROM A BIGGER PERSPECTIVE, JUST WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE IN SOUTHERN DESTINATIONS. WE WANT TO BRING RESIDENCE, OR BRING TOURISTS HERE AND CONVINCE THEM THAT WE ARE A BETTER PLACE TO SPEND 
          THEIR MONEY. THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS CINDY STAVELEY, DIRECTOR OF THE SAINT AUGUSTINE MUSEUM IN DOWNTOWN SAINT AUGUSTINE. I ARRIVED HERE IN 1997. I WAS BRAND-NEW FROM MARYLAND. MY FIRST JOB WAS AT THE HUNT, IF ANYONE REMEMBERS, IT USED TO BE DOWN THE ROAD HERE. A BEAUTIFUL GOLF COURSE AND RESORT HOTEL. MY FIRST JOB AS A SALES MANAGER WAS TO PUT TOGETHER THE FIRST ANNUAL BCB ANNUAL MEETING AND DINNER. SO I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED FOR 27 YEARS. I KNOW WHAT IT HAS DONE, AND I'VE SEEN THE GROWTH IN TOURISM. I MEAN, ANXIOUS TO GET OUT AT 5:00 AND EVERYTHING WOULD BE CLOSED. 
          THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYBODY AROUND, AND THERE WERE NOT THAT MANY RESTAURANTS TO GO TO. THERE WERE NOT MANY THINGS TO DO. THERE CERTAINLY WEREN'T A LOT OF MUSIC VENUES OR OPPORTUNITIES FOR ECOTOURISM. IT WAS VERY MINIMAL. BUT I BELIEVE IN THE PAS 27 YEARS OF OUR TOURISM COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER, AND WITH THE HELP OF THE BCB WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO TO WHERE WE ARE NOW AND I HOPE CONTINUE TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. 
          >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JIM STEPHEN. WE LIVE AT 165 MENLO DRIVE SAINT AUGUSTINE, WE HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS OF SAINT AUGUSTINE FOR OVER FOUR YEARS NOW. AND I REPRESENT THE SAN AUGUSTINE HOLIDAY MARKET, WHICH WE HAVE STARTED AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR TWO YEARS . ALONG WITH CINDY'S HELP AND THE BCB , WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR FIRST YEAR AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. WE COULD NOT BE HERE GETTING THIS DONE WITHOUT THE BCB HELPING US. WE ARE A SMALL ORGANIZATION, WE WANT TO BRING VALUE TO OUR TOWN AND I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH HOW IMPORTANT THEY'VE BEEN TO US GETTING STARTED. I THANK YOU 
          FOR YOUR ATTENTION. >> GOOD MORNING. I JUST WANT TO 
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LET YOU KNOW THAT DOWNTOWN FOR 33 YEARS HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF THE BCB SINCE THE DAY IT STARTED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD'VE DONE WITHOUT THEM IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND AS CHAIR SANDERS SAID, SHE IS SPECTACULAR, ALSO, BUT PLEASE SUPPORT SUSAN AND HER STAFF . THANK YOU. 
          >> GOOD MORNING. I AM WITH THE KENWOOD IN SAINT AUGUSTINE'S OLDEST BED-AND-BREAKFAST. I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON THE BED-AND-BREAKFAST COMMITTEE, ACTUALLY THE OLDEST HOSPITALITY COMMUNITY IN THE CITY. WE ARE APPROXIMATELY 25 B&BS. WE ARE SMALL , IN MOST CASES PRIVATELY OWNED, AND WE WORK EVERYTHING. 
          WE DO THE COOKING, THE CLEANING, WE ARE A ONE-STOP SHOP . SO WE DO NOT HAVE THE FUNDS TO DO THE MARKETING THAT SUSAN AND HER TEAM DO FOR US. WITHOUT THEM, WE WOULD PROBABLY NOT SURVIVE. IT HAS BEEN A ROUGH SUMMER . WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A MORE PROSPEROUS FALL AND WINTER, AND WITHOUT THE FUNDING FOR THE MARKETING WE MAY NOT SURVIVE. SO, PLEASE KEEP THE BALL ROLLING. THANK YOU. 
          >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS REGGIE MIKE'S, I AM A PART OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT GROUPS IN SAINT AUGUSTINE. THEM IS THE SAINT AUGUSTINE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION, PART OF THE YACHT CLUB, WHICH IS RUNNING RACE WEEK AT THE FRONT EVERY YEAR. 
          POINT BEING, MOST OF THESE GROUPS, ALL THESE GROUPS HERE RELY ON THE BCB FOR THE ADVERTISEMENT AND MARKETING COMING IN. THEY'VE BEEN DOING A FANTASTIC JOB. I WANT TO MAKE 
          SURE THEY STAY INTACT. >> I WILL BE VERY BRIEF HERE. 
          FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER, PARTICULARLY FOR ALL THE WORK THAT SHE AND HER TEAM HAVE AND TRYING TO DO FOR THE PAST YEAR TO GET US TO THE AGENCY. I HAVE BEEN IN TOURISM FOR 12 YEARS, HAD A COUPLE OF BUSINESSES, CURRENTLY SERVE AND JUST CAME BACK FROM TAMPA AT THE GOVERNORS CONFERENCE THERE. 
          IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING . THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE TODAY IS FLORIDA RIGHT NOW IS STRUGGLING. TOURISM INDUSTRY IS STRUGGLING. ALLOTTER DOWN TO 10-15%. I WAS IN A GROUP, THE BOARD MEMBERS VISITED FLORIDA LAST WEEK AND THE RECENT FLORIDA RESTAURANT LODGING ASSOCIATION, THEY HAD MARKETERS THERE IN A ROOM OF 500 PEOPLE. HE ASKED HOW MANY PEOPLE HAD SEEN AN INCREASE IN VISITATION, AND NOT ONE PERSON IN THAT ROOM RAISE THEIR HAND. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS WHEN WE HAVE FEWER VISITORS, LESS INCOME, ET CETERA. SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY TWO THINGS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP AND ATTENTION TO THIS. AND TWO, BUT YOU KNOW THE URGENCY AND IMPORTANCE. A LOT OF OUR BUSINESSES ARE NOW RESPONDING, WE ARE COMING INTO HOLIDAYS ON THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR. 
          GETTING THIS RIGHT WOULD HELP OUR BUSINESSES KEEP GOING. AND I WANT TO THANK JAMIE, JOY, AND THE STAFF FOR WHAT THEY'RE 
          DOING. THANK YOU. >> HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY? I AM A COUNTY NATURALIST FOR THE LAST NINE OR 10 YEARS. I RECENTLY STARTED MY OWN COUNTRY CALLED EARTH KINSHIP TWO YEARS AGO. ALSO PART OF THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION. I AM A BOARD MEMBER. BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER TO BRING MORE TOURISM IN THE NORTH. THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT . BEING A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, A BRAND-NEW BUSINESS OWNER, I WORKED FOR THE COUNTY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. RUNNING ECOTOURISM, ECO-HERITAGE TOURISM IS OUR BREAD AND BUTTER. NOT 
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DEVELOPMENT. WE DON'T NEED TO BRING MORE PEOPLE HERE TO LIVE. 
          WE NEED TO BRING MORE PEOPLE HERE TO VISIT. THEN GO HOME. WE WANT THEM TO COME HERE, VISIT, AND HE WANTED TO SPEND THEIR DOLLARS HERE. I AM ALSO A PERSON THAT SPEAKS FOR THE WILDERNESS. WE DON'T NEED MORE DEVELOPMENT. WE DON'T NEED MORE LOSS OF LAND. WE NEED MORE UNDERSTANDING OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES. WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO GET OUT THERE AND SEE THE MANATEES LAYING ON THE LOGS, BECAUSE THEY DO ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND. STOP BEING SCARED OF OUR NATURAL WORLD. REALLY GO OUT THERE AND GET THEIR FEET WET. I RUN KAYAK TOURS, I DO WILD MEDICINAL EDIBLE WALKS. ALL KINDS OF THINGS . PLEASE SUPPORT THIS, AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, I NEED. THANK YOU. 
          >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 
          FIVE? >> CHAIR, IF I CAN USE THE OVERHEAD I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE RFP, BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THINGS ABOUT THE BCB CURRENT CONTRACT. OBVIOUSLY HERE REPRESENT A CAPACITY FOR THE BCB, BUT ONE ITEM , COUNTY TOURISM MOTIONS FOR 10 MEETINGS. AND NUMBER TWO, PARTICIPATE IN THE WORK. 
          ANOTHER NUMBER TWO FOR SERVICES, ATTEND MEETINGS ON NUMBER 12. AND IF WE LOOK AT NUMBER THREE, THIRD-PARTY CONTRACTS WITH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES INCLUDING CONTRACT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, PUBLICLY. OF COURSE THOSE THINGS ARE ALL GOVERNED BY YOUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS. WHEN THEY UNDERTAKE IT, EVEN UNDER THEIR EXISTING CONTRACT. SALE AND PROMOTION ACTIVITIES IS ALREADY IN THERE IN THE EXISTING AGREEMENT, AND NUMBER THREE, SALES AND PROMOTION ACTIVITIES . THAT THERE POINT ON SOCIAL SERVICES. IN THE FOURTH, SERVERS REPORT GIVES YOU DATA. YOU ARE HEARING IT TODAY FROM THE AUDIENCE. WE KNOW WHAT THE DATA TELLS YOU ABOUT WHAT THE BCB DOES, BUT THEY ALSO GIVE YOU REPORTS AND INFORMATION TO BACK IT UP. AND OF COURSE, A FIFTH THEY ACCOMPLISH, OBVIOUSLY A WONDERFUL REFERENCE THERE. I THINK THE CHALLENGE OF WHAT IS GOING ON, WHAT WE HAVE THIS COME UP IS YOU HAVE THIS PRIME CONTRACT, AND IT WOULD SEEM AS THOUGH YEARS OF COMMITMENT TO THE COUNTY THAT IS SO UNIQUE THAT IT IS EASY FOR THEIR SERVICES TO COVER WHATEVER YOU HAVE IN THIS ROOM. 
          THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE KEEP GOING BACK, WHERE THERE CONTRACT KEEPS GETTING REVIEWED AND COMES BACK TO SCRAMBLE. 
          MAYBE THAT COULD'VE BEEN AVOIDED IN THE LONG-TERM AGREEMENT FOR EXISTING . THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          AND BY THE WAY, WE APPRECIATE STAFF BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE CHALLENGE OF DEALING WITH AND COMPLYING WITH WHAT THE BCB EXPECTS AND COMPLY WITH PURCHASING PROCEDURE. YOUR COUNTY STAFF ARE WORKING IN THE SCHOOL, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE THE ULTIMATE ARBITER OF ALL THINGS IN THE COUNTY TO MAKE A DECISION OF. SOMETIMES IF IT IS A GRAY AREA OR WHATEVER THEY HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU. 
          AND SOMETIMES WHETHER OR NOT TO TAKE A POSITION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, MAYBE UNCERTAINTY WITH STAFF. WE TRUST THE DECISION YOU MAKE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          >> MORNING. CHARLIE HUNT. MAYBE WE NEED SOME CLARIFICATION HERE, BECAUSE I READ OVER THE SINGLE PAGE AGENDA ITEM AND REFERRING BACK TO WHAT WENT ON IN THE NUMBER FOUR ITEM, OF HOW TO REMOVE THE SPENDING LIMIT , OR THE LIMIT ON A LOT OF THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE FUNDED FROM THE TOURISM FROM SAINT 
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AUGUSTINE, MOSTLY. AND TO ELEVATE WHATEVER THE NEW LIMIT IS FOR THE AMPHITHEATER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THE PRESENTER SAID IT WAS MAINLY FROM THAT MONEY THAT COMES OUT OF THERE, AND THE QUESTION, SPECIFICALLY, SHOWED THAT IT IS NOT ON PROPERTY TAXES. OKAY. THIS PROGRAM HERE , IS THIS FROM PROPERTY TAXES? WE JUST NEED A LITTLE CLARIFICATION. IS THIS A PROGRAM THAT IS UNDER THE COUNTY, AND THEY GET THEIR FUNDING FROM PROPERTY TAXES? OR IS THIS PART OF THE PROGRAM WHERE YOU JUST SAID THE SPENDING LIMIT IS REMOVED . AND HAS THAT BEEN FUNDED THROUGH THEM? SO, THAT IS THE CLARIFICATION ON THE ONE PAGE AGENDA ITEM , IT REALLY DOES NOT SHOW IT. JUST TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION. 
          THANK YOU. >> HI, MY NAME IS SHANNON LAKE. 
          I DID NOT COME PREPARED TO SPEAK TODAY. I AM JUST GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THE AUDIENCE FOR THE BCB. BUT I DO WANT TO BE HERE ON BEHALF OF TEACHERS LODGE, A CONDO HOTEL. THERE IS 142 INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS . THE VALUE OF TEACHERS LODGE AND THE AMOUNT THEY ARE NOW SELLING FOR RELY HEAVILY ON THE VISITORS THAT ARE COMING TO STAY WITH US, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL SHORT-TERM RENTALS THERE. AND I WILL SAY, AS THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE HOTEL PROGRAM ON THE PROPERTY, THAT WE ARE SEEING A DECREASE IN VISITATION. AND WHEN THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPEN, THE FIRST ORGANIZATION I TURNED TO HIS SUSAN PHILLIPS AND THE BCB. AND RELY ON THEIR STRATEGIC MARKETING TO GET US THROUGH TIME LIKE THIS. WE ARE SAYING THAT EVEN WITH SOURCES LIKE VACATION RENTAL I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THEY ARE DOWN 50% IN OUR AREA. ACTUALLY AS A PROPERTY WE ARE DOING A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE AVERAGE, THEY TELL US. BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY SEEING DECLINES IN THE VISITORS THAT ARE COMING. AND THAT IS GOING TO DIRECTLY IMPACT THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING SOLD, BEECHER'S LODGE, AND I'M SURE OTHER COMMUNITIES LIKE OURS THAT HAVE SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTALS IN THE CONDO KIND OF WORLD. AND I WILL SAY, ALSO, THAT BEECHER'S LODGE IS AN OLDER PROPERTY. AND ONE THAT , REALLY, THE WAY THAT WE KEEP OUR VISITATION HIGH IS BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME WONDERFUL HEARTS AND SOULS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN OUR PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY, IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY. AND I'VE ALSO WITNESSED THAT IN THE BCB. 
          I THINK IT IS A VERY UNIQUE TYPE OF OPERATION, BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE THE VOICES OF ALL OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS , BOARD MEMBERS ARE INVOLVED THERE, FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DEALING WITH THE DAY TODAY. AND I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THAT COULD BE EASILY REPLACED. IN TIMES LIKE THESE, WHEN THERE IS SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY AHEAD OF US, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT WE KEEP SOME CERTAINTY IN THE MARKETING OF OUR COUNTY. THANK 
          YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE? SEEING NONE, WE WILL 
          CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY, WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD, AND OUR SPEAKING BUTTONS ARE NOT WORKING. COMMISSIONER 
          DEAN? >> THERE ARE RECURRING QUESTIONS , REALLY THE WHOLE TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION, PEOPLE HAVE , AND IT IS NATURAL, IT IS A NATURAL QUESTION. ONE ACTIVITIES , COUNT ACTIVITIES THAT WE APPROVE AND PROVIDE FUNDING FOR, PAID FOR BY MY PROPERTY TAX VERSUS ANOTHER USER FEE OR TAX FROM SPECIFIC INDUSTRIES. 
          AND WITH RESPECT TO THE TDC ALLOCATIONS FOR DIFFERENT CULTURAL ACTIVITIES AND OTHER THINGS, THAT REVENUE COMES IN FROM THE TAURUS DEVELOPMENT PATCH . THERE ARE NO PROPERTY TAXES INVOLVED. NO HOMEOWNER PROPERTY TAXES . NUMBER ONE. 
          TDC, NO PROPERTY TAXES. NUMBER TWO, BCB. THE MARKETING. ONE OF THE LARGEST EXPENDITURES OF TDC MONEY IS ACTUALLY FROM THE VERY BUSINESSES WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THE TOURIST INDUSTRY. AGAIN, NO 
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HOMEOWNER OR PROPERTY TAXES INVOLVED. THE CONTRACT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS PAID FOR EXCLUSIVELY BY THOSE TOURIST INDUSTRIES MEMBERS WHO RECRUIT . AND THE LAST, I TALKED ABOUT MORE THAN ONCE, ALL THE B-TREE NOURISHMENT THAT HAS OCCURRED AT ST. JOHNS COUNTY, WHETHER A FEDERAL OR LOCAL PROSPECT. 
          ABSOLUTELY NO PROPERTY TAXES INVOLVED, FROM GENERAL PROPERTY TAXES. NOW, OCEANFRONT HOMEOWNERS , THERE ARE TWO INSTANCES WHERE THOSE OCEANFRONT HOMEOWNERS HAVE VOTED TO TAX THEMSELVES THROUGH MUNICIPAL SERVICE TAX UNIT , BECAUSE THEY ARE ONE OF THE BIGGEST BENEFICIARIES. OF B-TREE NOURISHMENT. SO, IN FAIRNESS, THEY'RE PAYING IN ADDITION , MONEY IS COMING FROM THE TAURUS DEVELOPMENT ACT, NOT THE PROPERTY TAXES. I DON'T MEAN TO DWELL AT LENGTH ON THIS, BUT THE GENERAL QUESTION RAISED, I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW WHERE THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING. WITH THEIR PROPERTY TAXES OR TAURUS DEVELOPMENT TAX. IT GETS A 
          LITTLE CONFUSING. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE COMMENT, WE TALKED ABOUT ONE BIG BUSINESS, TOURISM IN THE INDUSTRY AND ON AND ON. I THINK AT THIS POINT, THE POINT THAT WAS RATTLING AROUND MY HEAD, THIS IS A COLLECTION OF HUNDREDS OF SMALL BUSINESSES. AND I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN FULLY APPRECIATE HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO BE IN SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES, TO BE IN A RESTAURANT, YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME STRESS IN YOUR LIFE, GO OPEN UP A RESTAURANT. THE SAME BURGER AND FRIES THINK IT'S A FIVE STAR REVIEW GETS A ONE STAR REVIEW. GOOD LUCK TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY AND HOW TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY AT THE SAME TIME WITH THE PRODUCT HE PUT OUT EVERY SINGLE DAY. GOOD LUCK TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO COME TO YOUR HOTEL WHEN THERE ARE CHOICES ALL OVER. HOW DO YOU GET PEOPLE TO PUT HEADS IN BEDS SO YOU CAN MAKE ENDS MEET? I THINK THERE IS AN UNINFORMED OPINION THAT EVERYONE OF THESE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS IS OUT THERE WITH PRIVATE JETS AND LUXURY MANSIONS ON THE OCEANFRONT. THESE ARE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. SOMETIMES THEY HAVE GOOD MONTHS, SOMETIMES THEY HAVE OKAY MONTHS. I AM IN RETAIL, I'VE BEEN LIVING ALL MY LIFE. SOMETIMES IN SMALL BUSINESSES YOU LOSE MONEY IN A MONTH. I AM NOT SURE THAT IS FULLY APPRECIATED BY THOSE WHO HAVE A NEGATIVE VIEW OF THE TOURISM INDUSTRY. CINDY SAID SOMETHING THAT REALLY RESONATED WITH ME, BECAUSE SHE MOVED HERE IN THE LATE 90S, LIKE I DID. AND SAINT AUGUSTINE WAS NOT A THRIVING, BUSTLING, WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF RESTAURANT OPTIONS. AND LOOK AT HOW DIVERSE IT IS NOW? LOOK AT ALL THE OPTIONS WE HAVE TO CHOOSE FROM. THE TOURISTS WHO ARE COMING HERE NO JUST 25 YEARS AGO. YOU GUYS ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB. I THINK REALLY AT THE HEART OF THIS ITEM FOR ME, THIS IS DOWN INDUSTRYWIDE. THE GOVERNMENT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO BE A TRUE PARTNER TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR, MAKE AN IMPACT ON SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO MAKE ENDS MEET, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME, THAT WE GET IT RIGHT. THERE ARE LAWS, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE LAWS, AND IMPLEMENT THE RFP. BUT OBVIOUSLY I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT MAKING SURE THERE IS CONTINUITY OF MARKETING. I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT IT IS DONE IN A WAY THAT JIVES WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR, OUR FRIENDS IN SMALL BUSINESSES THAT WE SEE HERE. I THINK THIS IS A NO-BRAINER, BUT WE'VE GOT TO HELP OUR FRIENDS IN SMALL BUSINESSES. THANK YOU ALL FOR 
          SHOWING UP. >> THANK YOU , COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? 
          >> I JUST WANT TO SAY, I AM SO EXCITED TO SEE THE REAL PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTY OUT HERE AND COMING TO THE MEETING. I LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU, I THINK IT IS AWESOME. AND I KNOW GOING FORWARD THIS IS GOING TO WORK OUT. THE ECONOMY, OBVIOUSLY, IS CONTRIBUTING TO SOME OF THE FACTORS HAPPENING IN OUR RESTAURANTS IN OUR HOTELS. AND HOPEFULLY WE ARE STARTING TO GET IT BACK. I SAW THAT THE PRICES OF GROCERIES ARE GOING DOWN A LITTLE, I HOPE THAT JUST STARTS ROLLING SO OUR ECONOMY STARTS GET GOING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT. I LOVE HEARING ABOUT EVERYBODY AND ALL THE SMALL BUSINESSES . YOU KNOW THEY ARE OUT THERE, BUT TO ACTUALLY SEE THE NATURE PERSON AND THE CANOE AND THE RESTAURANTS , THANK YOU. 
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          THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> THANK YOU. OKAY. WITH THAT I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO WEIGH IN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CONFIDENT IN THIS PROCESS , THAT THIS IS NOT A STOPGAP MOTION, AND THAT WE CAN TAKE IT BACK TO STRENGTHEN OUR PROCESS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO STAY ON THE RECORD THAT THE TDC BOARD DID YOU INITIALLY CONFIRM THE INDUSTRY GROUP OF EXPERTS THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. I 
          THINK THAT IS VITAL. >> YES, MADAM CHAIR. WE ARE CONFIDENT, I THINK THAT REGGIE AND HIS TEAM HAVE GIVEN US REALLY ALL THE TOOLS WE NEED , AND OF COURSE IT IS GOING TO BE ON STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COLLABORATING WITH EXISTING PROVIDERS AND ALSO WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PROCESS IS GOING TO GO THROUGH CODES. BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE UNDERSTAND URGENCY AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SIX-MONTH PERIOD WITH A GAP OF SERVICE. WE ARE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT IS NOT GOING TO 
          HAPPEN. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, JUST TO ECHO THAT, THIS IS REALLY JUST TO PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY TO SHOW THAT THERE IS OPEN SOLICITATION FOR THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE. AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE SAME PEOPLE WORKING ON THE INTERIM WE GO OUT AND 
          PROCURE LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS . >> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK WE HAVE A PAT 
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FORDE. WE WILL CIRCLE BACK FOR SIX MONTHS. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING BACK TODAY. ON TWO AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER SIX AND 
          SEVEN. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> ALL RIGHT, 31+ EMAILS, ACTUALLY PROBABLY MORE , BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN. PHONE CALL WITH NANCY RALSTON, RECEIVED BY A DROP-OFF PETITION WITH 96+ DENIED RESIDENTS . A SITE VISIT WITH NANCY ROBSON. 
          >> IF YOU ME, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. IF YOU GUYS COULD TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE AUDITORIUM, WE CANNOT HERE. 
          PLEASE, THANK YOU. >> A SITE VISIT WITH NANCY RALSTON, OPPOSED, MEETING WITH GREG, MEETING WITH NANCY OPPOSED, MEETING WITH RANDY JONES OPPOSED, MEETING WITH STEVE GODFREY OPPOSED. AND I DID DRIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD 
          EXTENSIVELY. >> OKAY, COMMISSIONER ALAIMO . 
          >> I RECEIVED 63+ EMAILS, RECEIVED A DROP-OFF PETITION TO DENY FROM RESIDENTS, I DID ATTEND A COMMUNITY MEETING A WHILE BACK , I TALKED TO RESIDENTS, SPOKE TO A LOT OF CITIZENS WHO ARE BOTH OPPOSED AND IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT. 
          HAD A MEETING WITH ELLEN AVERY-SMITH, MEETING WITH RANDY JONES, WHO WAS OPPOSED. HAD ANOTHER MEETING WITH ELLEN AVERY SMITH TO DISCUSS THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE PROJECT. AND THEN HAD A MEETING WITH SUZANNE COELHO, IN FAVOR OF THE 
          PROJECT. >> THANK YOU. I, MYSELF, HAD 63 EMAILS. I RECEIVED A DROP-OFF PETITION THIS MORNING TO DENY FROM OVER 90 RESIDENTS. I HAD A MEETING WITH ELLEN AVERY SMITH AND NICOLE BLEVINS, ALSO WITH JONES IN OPPOSITION AS WELL AS A MEETING WITH SUZANNE COELHO, WHO IS IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT. 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I HAD 71 EMAILS. SOME FOR, SOME AGAINST. I RECEIVED THAT POSITION BY RESIDENTS TO DENY, MET WITH ELLEN AVERY SMITH AND MICHAEL BLEVINS TO DISCUSS THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT LOCATION, TRAFFIC IMPACTS, COLLECTIVE ROAD, DRAINAGE. MET AGAIN WITH ELLEN AVERY SMITH AND GREG MADDALENA CALLED IN THAT DAY. THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, THE LOCATION, TRAFFIC, DRAINAGE. MET WITH SUZANNE COELHO, WHO WAS IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT. HER SUPPORT WAS CENTERED AROUND THE NEED FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I DID A WHOLE MEETING HOSTED BY RANDY JONES AND HIS WIFE, ROUGHLY 15 PEOPLE THERE . 
          MR. JONES HAD A SLIDE PRESENTATION ABOUT CORONADO'S DRAINAGE DITCH AND THE OBLIGATION TO TAKE CARE OF THE DRAINAGE DITCH . WE ASKED HER THAT THIS PROJECT HAVE OBLIGATION TRAFFIC COMPATIBILITY IMPACTS TO THE SCHOOL . WE MET FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF, I THINK 
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ROUGHLY 15 PEOPLE, MIGHT'VE BEEN MORE, MIGHT'VE BEEN LESS. 
          HAD A CALL YESTERDAY FROM MARK BAILEY, LASTED ABOUT 10 MINUTES. HE WAS JUST GENERALLY CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE GENERAL IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT. HAD A MISSED CALL YESTERDAY WHILE TRAVELING, I JUST COULD NOT GET A CALL. THAT IS MY NEXT 
          PART. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN. 
          >> VERY SIMILAR, I HAD ABOUT 69 EMAILS . I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 60 OPPOSING, 40 APPROVING. RECEIVED BY MAIL, PETITION TO DENY A LOT OF THE AREA RESIDENTS . HAD A MEETING WITH RANDY JONES , WHO WAS OPPOSING THE PROJECT. WITH STEVE GODFREY, OPPOSING THE PROJECT. THEN HAD MEETINGS WITH ELLEN AVERY-SMITH ADVISER ATTORNEYS . SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT, MEETING WITH SIEGEL IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. IN A TELEPHONE CALL YESTERDAY WHERE MARK RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROJECT , MANY OF WHICH YOU SAID CAME FROM THE AREA. SO I THINK THAT 
          COMPLETES MY NEXT PART OF IT. >> ABSOLUTELY. THAT BEING SAID, 
          THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> ALL RIGHT, MADAM CHAIR. I'M GOING TO LET GREG LEAD OFF, AND I WILL SAY A GRAND OPENING FOR 
          THE PROJECT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MR. JEFF YOUNG, HE AND HIS FAMILY HAVE OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR OVER 150 YEARS. AND BEFORE WE LAUNCH INTO OUR SLIDES , A FEW THINGS TO TELL YOU ALL ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY AND WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. 
          >> I HAVE JUST BEEN ASKED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW SOME OF THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY, AND WHERE IT IS COMING FROM. IT HAS BEEN IN OUR FAMILY SINCE RIGHT AFTER THE CIVIL WAR , AND WE LOVE THE AREA. WE LOVE SAINT AUGUSTINE. WE HAVE BEEN HERE LONG TIME, TRY TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. WE FARMED THAT LAND. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE A TREE FARM ON THE PROPERTY. AND WE HAVE TRIED TO BE REAL GOOD NEIGHBORS. WE REALLY HAVE, THE WHOLE TIME. THE COUNTY, YOU GUYS ASKED US A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO IF WE WOULD OPEN UP THE DRAINAGE DITCH ON THE EAST SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY BECAUSE THE PROPERTIES WERE BEING FLOODED AND COULD NOT DRAIN. WE SET ABSOLUTELY, DO WHAT YOU CAN DO. 
          WE HAVE HAD OTHER NEIGHBORS BUILD HOUSES JUST OFF OF OUR PROPERTY, AND THEIR NEIGHBORS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO RUN AN ELECTRIC LINE ACROSS THE LAND TO POWER THEIR HOMES. THEY ASKED US IF WE WOULD ALLOW THAT ON OUR PROPERTY, WE SAID OF COURSE. POWER YOUR HOUSE. WE HAVE TRIED TO MAKE OURSELVES A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY. A COUPLE OF DECADES AGO WE ASKED YOU GUYS TO TURN OUR LAND INTO A TREE FARM, AND YOU DID WITH HAD PEOPLE COME TO US AND ASK, THE COUNTY CAME TO US SEVERAL DECADES AGO AND ASKED IF WE WOULD GIVE SOMEONE OUR PROPERTY TO OUR NEIGHBOR, WHO WAS SELLING HIS LAND AND WANTED THE DEVELOPER. WE USED TO WALK TO THAT PROPERTY, WALK OVER TO THE OSCEOLA MONUMENT THAT WAS OUT THERE, AND WE USED TO ENJOY WORKING THERE. IT WAS IN A LOT, BUT WE SAID SURE, IT IS HIS LAND. HE GETS TO DO WHAT HE WANTS. AND WE GAVE THEM THE 20 ACRES OR SO TO BUILD THE PROPERTY. THAT IS NOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF QUITE A FEW HOMES . AND IT'S FINE, WE WELCOME THEM AS NEIGHBORS. A COUPLE OF DECADES AGO OUR NEIGHBOR FROM ACROSS THE STREET CAME OVER. NICE GENTLEMAN. VERY SUCCESSFUL IN HIS TIME. AND HE WALKED OVER TO OUR PORCH AND SAID JEFF, JOE, YOU KNOW MY WIFE DIED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. 
          I CAN'T KEEP THIS PROPERTY ANYMORE. YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE, A LOT OF WOODS AROUND IT. HE SAID HE HAD TO MOVE AND WE WISH THEM WELL. I THINK YOU GUYS NAME THE PARK FOR HIM. WE SAID YOU GOT TO DO WHAT YOU GOT TO DO. WE APPRECIATE IT. HE MOVED ON. THAT IS NOW THE CORONADO. THAT WAS NICE AND EVERYTHING. NOW THE CORONADO. WE HAVE DEAR CHASE ON ONE SIDE, 
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CORONADO ACROSS THE STREET. AND WE NEED TO SELL THIS LAND. I CAN NO LONGER KEEP IT. MY WIFE PASSED AWAY FOUR YEARS AGO. SHE DIED OF CANCER. THAT TOOK A LOT OF OUR SAVINGS, TO SUPPORT HER AND TRY TO GET HER WELL , AND IT DID NOT WORK. WHEN SHE PASSED I LOST HALF MY INCOME, AND I CAN NO LONGER AFFORD THE PROPERTY. THE TAXES OF GONE UP, AND THE INSURANCE ON MY HOME HAS GONE UP TREMENDOUSLY. I WAS PAYING $1900 A MONTH FOR MY MORTGAGE, $800 FOR MY HOUSE. THE REST WAS INSURANCE. THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO. NOW IT IS GONE FROM $1900-$4200. I AM RETIRED NOW. I CANNOT AFFORD IT, I'VE GOT TO SELL. I WANT TO SELL IT, SO IT BENEFITS THE TOWN. LAST YEAR YOU GUYS PAST A WORKFORCE HOUSING ORDINANCE HERE TO TRY TO GET THE DEVELOPERS LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY WORK. 
          >>> THERE WERE FIVE PEOPLE IN THE FIRE STATION. FOUR OF THEM COULDN'T AFFORD TO WORK IN THE COUNTY. AND I THINK THIS PROJECT WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS BENEFIT TO THIS COUNTY. I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND IN THE SITUATION THAT WE ARE IN. 
          AFFECTS US ALL. BUT WE ARE HERE FOR A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING THAT WE HAVE TWO APPLICATIONS AND A COMPANION CONCURRENCY WHICH TALKS ABOUT UP FRONT ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. WE ARE GOING TO GET INTO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, BY LAW. WE DID WANT YOU TO HEAR FROM LONG-TERM PROPERTY OWNERS PROBABLY HAVE BENEFITED THE PEOPLE. SUCH A KICKOFF, MY NAME IS ELLEN AVERY SMITH. YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW GREG . HE DID NOT SET ON THE DAIS, HE DID NOT VOTE . WHEN THIS APPLICATION WAS BROUGHT FORWARD, IT WAS VOTED 3-2 . THE AGREEMENT DID NOT GO TO THE PCA. WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT DRAINAGE, HE IS OUR EXPERT ON DRAINAGE. USER PROJECT TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER, AND YOU WILL HEAR FROM HIM. BUT ALSO, IRON PEACOCK TO TALK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, THAT KIND OF THING. WE HAVE A WHOLE TEAM OF EXPERTS HERE . I DO WANT TO POINT OUT A PETITION , WHICH WE DON'T HAVE A COPY OF AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET , IS NOT COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO BE PRESENTED TODAY. SO TO GET KICKED OFF, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE ACRES ALL HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON THIS MAP. YOU SEE WATSON ROAD TO THE SOUTH. YOU SEE THIS WOULD BE THE SUCCESSFUL PROJECT THAT IS UNDER REVIEW NOW. INTERESTINGLY , THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF THIS PROPERTY IS BEACH. IT'S ALREADY APPROVED FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. WE DID NOT ASK THEM TO CHANGE THAT. THE FIRST THING IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY IN THIS AREA AND THIS AREA , AND THIS IS THE EXPIRED ONE FROM YEARS AND YEARS AGO. SO WE ARE 
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REZONING ALL OF THIS PROPERTY , AND WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT IS REQUIRED IN WORKFORCE HOUSING IS A GO THROUGH THE REGISTRATION. JUST A QUICK REVIEW OF THE PROPERTY -- AGAIN, ABOUT 46.6 ARE WETLAND ACRES. 12 OF THOSE WETLAND ACRES WOULD BE IMPACTED UNTIL THE DEVELOPMENT AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 110 ACRES. WHICH ARE IN 5.1 1.00 CODE. IN THE MAXIMUM DENSITY. I WANT TO UNDERLINE MAXIMUM DENSITY. 640 UNITS. THESE WILL BE FOR SALE, 94 WRENCH PRODUCT. 
          SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, DUPLEXES, AND TOWNHOMES, AND MINIMUM OF 30% HAVE TO BE WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND THOSE WILL BE CONCENTRATED IN TOWNS AND NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT'S A PRICE POINT OF 267,000 TO 2025 FISCAL YEAR. WE HAVE INCLUDED A SITE PLAN SO THAT WHEN WE GO INTO THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE CONNECTION, THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WILL KNOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THE SITE PLAN SHOWS -- I'M GOING TO USE THIS OVERVIEW -- HERE'S WATSON ROAD. WATSON ROAD WILL BE EXTENDED THROUGH THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. ALL THE WAY UP , THAT WILL BE SUBJECT TO OUR CONCURRENCY , WHICH IS THE SECOND ITEM, WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THERE ARE ALSO 24 COMPATIBILITY BUMPERS ALL AROUND THE OPERATING. THAT'S THE BLUE AND ORANGE LINE. THOSE ARE DOUBLE WHAT IS REQUIRED BY THE CODE , TO ENSURE FOLKS OUT THERE WILL HAVE IT. YOU ALSO SEE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ARE HERE, HERE, AND HERE. AND YOU WILL ALSO SEE IN THIS AREA OF THE NORTH PART OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO SINGLE-FAMILY. SO WE WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. THERE IS ALSO NOTES IN THE DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS , WHICH WILL TALK ABOUT LATER THE TALK ABOUT FENCING AGAINST CERTAIN ADJACENT PROPERTIES AS WELL. 
          YOU SEE THE WATER PONDS THAT WERE PROVIDED, THE WETLANDS THAT WILL REMAIN IN PLACE, THE WETLAND IMPACTS ON THE GRAY AREAS, AND YOU SEE THE TOWNHOMES AND DUPLEXES ON THE CENTER OF THE SITE. RECREATION AREA IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE, YOU ALSO SEE DONE HERE, THESE SINGLE-FAMILY TOWNHOMES AND DUPLEXES. YOU WILL ALSO, AGAIN, THIS IS A ROAD WHERE YOU DON'T SEE ANY HOMES ON THIS ROAD. IT IS DESIGNED TO GIVE TRANSPORTATION CAPACITY WAS IN WATSON ROAD AND TALK ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THOSE ROADS AND THE INTERSECTION IN A FEW MINUTES. JUST ZOOMING IN A LITTLE BIT ON THE SITE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BETTER THE BUFFERING AROUND THE AREA. YOU SEE THE ADJACENT SINGLE-FAMILY USES. YOU CAN SEE SINGLE-FAMILY ON THIS MAP. THIS MAP IS INTENDED TO BE BINDING AND GO ALONG WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS IN JUST A MINUTE. WE ALSO ADDED AN ACCESS ARROW TO GO TO THE ADJACENT POVERTY, WHICH IS LANDLOCKED. AND JUST TO KNOW THE EXACT LOCATION OF THAT DEPENDING ON WHERE IT CAN LOGICALLY BE INCLUDED CONNECTED WITHIN THE TOWNHOME PORTION OF THE PROJECT AND ALSO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NEIGHBOR WHO LIVES THERE TO MAKE SURE SHE DOESN'T HAVE A PROBLEM. THAT YOU'LL SEE THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE PROGRAM AND SEE THE CONNECTION TO WATSON ROAD. 
          SINGLE-FAMILY DUPLEXES AND TOWNHOMES IN THE SOUTH, AND THEN SINGLE-FAMILY TO LEXIS. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD TO TURN IT OVER TO GREG FOR LITTLE WHILE AND WILL CONTINUE 
          THE DISCUSSION. >> OKAY. LET'S TALK ABOUT COMPATIBILITY. THIS IS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED. I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT ON THE FLUE MAP, WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL C ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST AND ACROSS WILDWOOD ROAD ALLOWING SIX UNITS TO BE A. MIXED-USE TO THE EAST, WHICH ALLOWS 13 UNITS TO BE A. BACK TO THE MOTHER'S LIFE. AND THEN 
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I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IN THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE EAST , IT IS RESIDENTIAL B. BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES AN APARTMENT/CONDO COMMUNITY CALLED THE OAKS , WHICH HAS ROUGHLY 60 UNITS IN AND 10.7 ACRES OR A DENSITY OF ABOUT SIX UNITS TO BE A. SO THIS RIGHT HERE SHOWS YOU WHERE THAT PARTICULAR APARTMENT UNIT IS LOW, AND IT GIVES YOU A PICTURE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE GOING THROUGH THERE. SO THE ACTUAL DENSITY OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IN THERE ARE GENERALLY ABOUT TWO UNITS . SO WHAT IS ON THE GROUND IS NOT WHAT IS ALLOWED . WE READILY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. BUT THE FACT THAT WHAT'S ON THE GROUND IS MITIGATED BY THE FACT THAT, TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY, UP AND DEAR CHASE, THERE ARE 9 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY, AND THEY ARE ADJACENT TO THOSE 9 HOMES. AND THERE ARE TWO INDIVIDUAL HOMES AND PARCELS THAT ARE CUT OUT ON THE PROPERTY . ONE ON THE ROAD BOUNDARY ONE OF THE EAST BOUNDARY. AND AGAIN, THERE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ADJACENT TO THAT AREA. WHEN YOU GO ALONG THE BORDER TO THE EAST, YOU SEE THAT THERE ARE ONLY NINE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ALONG THIS BOUNDARY. SO AGAIN, WE HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. PROPERTIES TO THE EAST IN ADDITION TO THE 20 FOOT BUFFER WE ARE PROPOSING, WILL BE FURTHER BUFFERED BY THE FACT YOU GOT THE SUBSTANTIAL DITCH OVER THERE. TO THE WEST OF THE DITCH, YOU WILL ALSO HAVE THE COLLECTOR ROAD. THE HOUSES WE BUILD WILL BE NOWHERE NEAR THE NINE HOMES THAT ARE ADJACENT ALONG CARTER ROAD. THEN WE ARE PROVIDING THE 20 FOOT BUFFER ON THE PROPERTY, AND WERE POSSIBLE, WE PLAN ON RETAINING THE EXISTING VEGETATION . IN ADDITION, I WILL POINT OUT LATER A FEW PLACES WHERE WE WILL BE PUTTING UP FENCING, PRINCIPALLY ALONG THE BOUNDARY AND THAT YOU TWO OTHER PARCELS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ON THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PROPERTY. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. HERE'S A QUOTE FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENT. I AM ALL FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, ABSOLUTELY FIREFIGHTERS, NURSES, TEACHERS LIVING NEXT, IT'S A GREAT THING. OTHER WORKFORCE HOUSING ITEMS BEFORE THIS WORD, WHEN PEOPLE GET UP TO SPEAK, THEY HAVE DEGENERATED PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN WORKFORCE HOUSING. THIS IS GOING TO BE A SLUM BECAUSE YOUR WORKFORCE HOUSING. THESE KINDS OF DISCRIMINATORY COMMENTS TODAY , BECAUSE THESE ARE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T MAKE $300,000 A YEAR DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY ARE UPSTANDING CITIZENS AND SOMEONE LIVING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO HERE'S A GRAPH THE NUMBER OF HOMES THEY ARE SELLING FOR UNDER $250,000 IN THE COUNTY AS NEW HOMES HAVE INCREASED IN PRICE IN THE AVERAGE PRICE. EXISTING HOME PRICES GO UP AT THE SAME TIME. THEY GENERALLY LAG BEHIND . WHAT HAPPENS THEN IS, IN GENERAL, THE AVAILABILITY OF THE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WITH LOWER INCOMES GOES DOWN. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE THE GRASS. IT WOULD TAKE SOMEBODY, TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD WORKFORCE HOUSING, THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE $70,000 A YEAR. 
          HERE'S JUST A GRAPH PRICE STRATIFICATION IS WHAT HAS BEEN SOLVED BY THE COUNTY SO FAR THIS YEAR, AND THE AVERAGE PRICE IS IN THAT RANGE. HERE'S A GRAPH OF THE MAJOR EMPLOYERS IN THE AREA. GOT THE HOSPITAL, WE GOT THE SCHOOL BOARD, POLICE AND FIRE, AND MANY OTHER WORKERS WOULD LIKE TO LIVE IN THE COUNTY, BUT ARE UNABLE TO, SUCH AS SMALL BUSINESSES THAT 
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WE JUST HEARD FROM. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. BEFORE WE LEAVE THE DISCUSSION OF WORKFORCE HOUSING, I HAVE SOMETHING I WANT TO HEAD OUT. 
          SO OFTEN WHEN WE HAVE A PROGRAM , THERE IS NEVER ANY FOLLOW-UP TO SEE, IS IT REALLY WORKING? THANK YOU. OF THE SIX OR SEVEN WORKFORCE HOUSING ELEMENT THAT WERE MOVED BY THE COUNTY , THERE ARE TWO THAT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN SELLING IN HOMES. 
          RAVENSWOOD FOREST AND STOKES LANDING. SO IF YOU LOOK AT RAVENSWOOD FOREST, WHICH IS BEEN OPERATING AT A SALES PRICE OF 260,000 OR LESS, THEY HAVE CLOSED 60 HOUSES OUT OF 183 , ROUGHLY 33% OF THE HOUSES THAT THEY CLOSED SO FAR. THIS IS THROUGH THE END OF JUNE AND THEY QUALIFY FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING. THE AVERAGE PRICE IN THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN $304,000. 25 HOUSES OUT OF 44 , 57% ACTUALLY QUALIFY AS WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND THE AVERAGE PRICE IS ACTUALLY AT THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PRICE. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS WORKING. 
          CLEARLY, WE ARE MOVING CLOSER. AS A RESULT OF MOVING THEM CLOSER TOWARD WORK, QUITE FRANKLY, WE ARE TAKING MILES OF CARS OFF THE ROADS OF CRITICAL INTERSECTIONS. I LIKE TO POINT OUT ONE OTHER THING TO WORK WORSE HOUSING THAT PERHAPS A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY SEE . RAVENSWOOD FOREST IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE. PRICE RANGE IS PROBABLY ABOUT 220 TO 350. BUT NOT ONLY DOES A WORKFORCE ZONING CATEGORY BENEFIT THOSE WHO QUALIFY WITH PRICE, IT BENEFITS THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T BUY AT THAT PRICE RANGE, BUT OTHERWISE CANNOT AFFORD FOR $60,000 . YOUR 123 HOUSES THAT ARE SOLD IN RAVENSWOOD FOREST AS A RESULT OF THIS PROGRAM THAT DON'T NECESSARILY MEET THE REQUIREMENT BE SOLD FOR LESS THAN $260,000. AND YET WE ARE ALSO ABLE TO BRING THOSE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO JUST REITERATE 
          THAT THIS PROGRAM IS WORKING. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> LET'S TALKED ABOUT TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION. HE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE APPLICANT UP FRONT -- THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE UP FRONT. THEY WILL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT A TWO LANE ROAD OF APPROXIMATELY AT AN ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COST OF $7.3 MILLION. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO GOING TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT AN EASTBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE FROM WATSON ROAD UP TO U.S. 1 LANE SIGNAL CHANGES, DRAINAGE, ET CETERA . NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO AT THE TOP OF THIS SLIDE, AND SEE HOW THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE IS COWED. THERE ARE THREE LINKS UNDER EACH ONE WERE PROPORTIONATE SHARE HAS BEEN CALCULATED. AS OF THE TOP THREE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE THE. THERE IS AN INTERSECTION WHERE WORSHIP SHARE HAS BEEN CALCULATED. THE TOTAL IS ABOUT A $.3 MILLION. AND THEN THE LINK FROM WILDWOOD DRIVE, U.S. 1 TO YOUR CHASE DRIVE ADDS ANOTHER 400,000 . ORTION -- THE COST OF THE WORSHIP CARE IS 
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SHOWN THERE AT 17.8. BASED ON THESE ESTIMATES HERE IN THE ACTUAL PROPORTIONATE SHARE, THE APPLICANT WILL SPEND OVER $9 MILLION IN EXCESS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. NOW, THE APPLICANT DOESN'T GET CREDIT, THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T GET CREDIT FOR 100 OF THE COST OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S BECAUSE THEY ONLY GET CREDIT WHERE THE COST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF WILL NOT CONTRIBUTE TO OR ADD TO. THE DEVELOPER ONLY GETS CREDIT FOR THE BACKGROUND TRAFFIC THAT IS NOT PART OF STABILITY THAT WILL UTILIZE THESE IMPROVEMENTS. THE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS ALONG WATSON ROAD WILL GO OUT TO U.S. 
          1. THAT WOULD BE DRIVERS DRIVING NORTH ON U.S. ONE RIGHT NOW LOOK TO WILDWOOD ROAD MAKE A LEFT TURN . NOW, THE ATTORNEY TO WATSON AND USE THIS CONNECTOR TO GET OVER TO 207. 
          SO ROUGHLY 61% OF THE TRAFFIC ON THE WATSON ROAD EXTENSION IS BACKGROUND TRAFFIC. AND THEY ARE GETTING CREDIT FOR THAT. 
          ROUGHLY 80% OF THE TURNS BACKGROUND TRAFFIC. 
          I WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT THE PROPORTIONATE SHEAR. AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT, BUT I ALWAYS REEF THEM. WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT AS WE APPLY FOR PROPORTIONATE SHARE IN 2023 AND FAILED ON OUR THREE, FOUR LINKS, AND THE INTERSECTION. WHEN YOU APPLY , YOUR PROPORTIONATE SHARE IS BASED ON THE TRANSPORTATION SPREADSHEET , WHICH IS KEPT BY YOUR TEAM IN EFFECT AT THAT TIME. THEY UPDATE THAT SPREADSHEET. SO WHAT CHANGES? THE CHANGE , FIRST OF ALL, IS THE ACTUAL TRAFFIC COUNTS, IF THEY DO THE TRAFFIC COUNTS. NUMBER TWO, THE NUMBER OF RESERVE TRIP. SO RESERVE TRIPS ARE FROM DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS THAT HAS AN APPROVED TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION AGREEMENT IN PLACE . 
          IT WILL BE SET ASIDE ON THOSE VARIOUS LINKS IN THE PROJECT AT THE POINT IN TIME IT IS APPROVED. WE APPLIED IN 2023. 
          WE DON'T GET TO PICK AND CHOOSE , OH, THE NEXT SPREADSHEET IS BETTER FOR US. WE CONTINUE ALONG THE SAME CALCULATIONS THAT ARE BEING APPLIED. SO WHEN WE APPLY , THERE WAS PROJECTED TO BE IN OUR BUILDOUT ALMOST ENOUGH TRAFFIC CAPACITY THAT IS DEEMED TO BE DEFICIENT. WE ONLY PUSHED THE PARTICULAR LINK OVER THE EDGE 28 PEAK HOUR TRIPS. IF YOU RERUN THE NUMBERS TODAY , CALCULATING THE PROPORTION. BUT IF YOU DO, THERE IS CAPACITY TODAY AS A RESULT OF THE BUILDOUT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT. IT DOESN'T GIVE US OUT OF PAYING OUR PROPORTION OF THE SHARE. I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT THE AMOUNT OF IMPACT FEE CREDITS RIGHT NOW DOES NOT INCLUDE THE VALUE OF THE LAND AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU AT A LATER DATE. WITH THE EXACT LOCATION IN A LEGAL 
          DESCRIPTION. >> I DO WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU, COMMISSIONERS, THAT WE MADE ONE CHANGE TO THE IMPACT AGREEMENT LEFT LAST WEEK TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VALUE OF THAT RIGHT AWAY DOES NOT INCLUDE THE REZONING. SO THAT WHEN THE RIGHT AWAY VALUATION IS DONE, IT WILL BE A VALUATION OF THE CURRENT ZONING. IT SHOULD BE A RED FOLDER , WE APPRECIATE STAFF'S ATTENTION. 
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          >> BACKSLIDE. THIS MAP SHOWS YOU THE LINKS AND READ THAT ARE CURRENTLY PROPORTIONATE IN SHEER. AND YOU CAN SEE THE LINK WHERE WE ARE ALSO PLAYING SHEER. HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS. AGAIN, TO EMPHASIZE, THIS IS A MINOR COLLECTOR ROAD. IT WILL NOT BE RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAYS ON THIS ROAD. THEY WILL BE BUILDING SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES AS PART OF THE PROCESS. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN HERE YOU SEE THE TURN LANE. WHAT I WANT TO TURN ON ABOUT THIS TURN LANE, IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING RIGHT NOW, SINCE THERE'S ONLY WESTBOUND ENEMIES FOUND LAID AT THIS INTERSECTION, THAT IS TRAFFIC LOOSE, ITALY IS ONE WAY TO GO. BECAUSE IT'S A DEAD-END ROAD. 
          AS TRAFFIC LEAVES RIGHT NOW, MOST OF THE TRIP TURNED TO THE NORTH IN THE MORNING. WELL, AS A RESULT, SOMEBODY WANTING TO TURN TO THE SOUTH STUCK BEHIND HOWEVER MANY CARS ARE THERE. 
          WHEREVER THAT QUEUE IS WILL BACKUP ANYBODY TRY TO TURN TO THE RIGHT IN THE INTERSECTION. BY ADDING THE RIGHT TURN LANE, WE EXPECT THAT D.O.T. WILL ACTUALLY NOT EVEN ALLOW CARS TO GO STRAIGHT ACROSS BECAUSE WHEN WE APPLY FOR COMING AND ADDING THIS TURN LANE, BY ADDING THIS RIGHT TURN LANE, THAT WILL ALLOW THE LEFT AND RIGHT MOVEMENTS TO STAGGER SEPARATELY AND ALLOW RIGHT TURNS ON RED SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE CARS TO THAT INTERSECTION . NEXT. SO I WANT TO POINT OUT ONE OTHER THING ABOUT THE THREE LINKS . SOME TIME AGO, THE COUNTY DID A CUSTOM STUDY ON U.S. 1 UNDER THE D.O.T.'S METHODOLOGY THAT WE ARE USING TO DETERMINE CAPACITIES. WHEN THEY DID THIS STUDY, THE CAPACITIES OF THOSE LINKS, MAYBE BECAUSE THEY ARE RURAL THERE IS A LOT OF PROGRESS ON SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS UNTIL YOU GET TO THE INTERSECTION, THE CAPACITIES WERE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THE D.O.T.'S STANDARD RATING FOR THOSE LINKS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU LOOK AT WILDWOOD DRIVE . LOOKING AT 4430. THOSE NUMBERS THERE WERE THE CAPACITIES IN 2022. IN 2023, THE D.O.T. CAME ALONG AND REDID ALL THE ROADS IN THE COUNTY AND REACHED CAPACITY BY INTRODUCING A NEW METHODOLOGY WHICH PLACE MORE EMPHASIS ON MULTIMODAL FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION. IT DID NOT SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGE THE D.O.T.'S CAPACITIES FOR LINKS LIKE THESE THREE LINKS. BUT AS A RESULT, THE CAPACITY FOR THESE THREE LINKS WAS REDUCED ON THE 2023 SPREADSHEET TO THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. ALL THREE LINKS WERE REDUCED FROM 4430 TO 3290, OR BY 26%. 5710 TO 3290, 42%, AND 4950 TO 3290, OR 34%. IF IT WERE NOT FOR THESE REDUCTIONS, ANOTHER CUSTOM STUDY PERHAPS GOING DOWN, ALL OF THESE WOULD PASS . IT DOESN'T MATTER. YOU PAY A PORTION THIS YEAR BASED ON THE SPREADSHEET . SO THAT NUMBER STANDS. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THE CAPACITY OF THE WILDWOOD DRIVE LINK. AND THE IMPACT OF THE ROAD CONNECT ON THE TOTAL DAILY TRIPS. GO OVER TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO WE ALWAYS GET THOSE NICE MAPS WITH THE NUMBERS AND LINES. I HAVE DIFFICULTY READING THIS. I HAVE A CPA BACKGROUND, I LIKE NUMBERS AND CHARTS. SO WHAT I DID IS, I EXTRACTED WHAT I THOUGHT WERE SOME RELEVANT INFORMATION FROM HIS CHART, SHOWING THE ULTIMATE TRAFFIC COUNT THAT ARE BUILT OUT, AND THE TRAFFIC COUNTS 
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TODAY. OR THE TRAFFIC COUNTS WITH OR WITHOUT OUR PROJECT AND WITH AND WITHOUT THESE IMPROVEMENTS. SO IF YOU LOOK AT WILDWOOD DRIVE , THE LINK THAT WE FAIL ON. WITHOUT OUR CONNECTOR ROAD, THE NUMBER PROJECTED TRIPS -- I THINK IN 2000 THIRTIETHS 13,335. WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AND THE CONNECTOR, THE NUMBER DROPS BY ALMOST 1900 . IF YOU LOOK AT THE U.S. 1 LINK, FROM WATSON ROAD TO WILDWOOD DRIVE, YOU HAVE A BIGGER DECREASE. YOU DO SEE AN INCREASE IN WATSON ROAD. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S MORE CARS USING IT, TO A TOTAL OF ABOUT 2319 CARS ON WATSON ROAD. IT'S RATED CAPACITY IS 1000, SO IT DOESN'T CAUSE IT TO EXCEED IT. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT AT THE INTERSECTION OF WATSON ROAD AND PRESUMABLY THE F D.O.T. WILL WANT US TO DO WHAT IS CALLED A THROUGHPUT DESIGN, NO GOING STRAIGHT THROUGH. SO THOSE FEW CARS THAT WOULD GO STRAIGHT THROUGH TO THE OTHER SIDE WOULD NOT BLOCK THE INTERSECTION FOR PEOPLE TURNING LEFT AND RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WILDWOOD DRIVE TO THE INTERSECTION. IN OUR COMMUNITY MEETING, THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE SAYING THE TRAFFIC BACKS UP REALLY BAD AT THAT INTERSECTION. IN THE INTERSECTION RIGHT NOW HAS TWO LEFT HIM TURNED UP TO 27 SOUTH, STREET AND RIGHT TURN UP TO 207 WEST. THE COUNTY AS WE UNDERSTAND IT HAS APPROVED AND FUNDED A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF BRINK OFF AT 207. AND IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT WILL BECOME THE NEW NORM FOR LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS ON THIS TRAFFIC FROM WILDWOOD. THEY WILL TRAVEL DOWN WILDWOOD INSTEAD OF GOING STRAIGHT UP TO 200 SEVEN, TURN LEFT ONTO BRINK OFF, AND THEN AT BRINK OFF AT 207, TURN LEFT TO 95. WHEN THAT IMPROVEMENT IS COMPLETED, IT IS EXPECTED THAT THE MIDDLE LANE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS FOR WESTBOUND TRAFFIC ON WILDWOOD AT 207 WILL BE CONVERTED FROM A LEFT ONLY TO A STRAIGHT . AS A RESULT, AGAIN, JUST LIKE ON WATSON, THIS WILL FREE UP THE RIGHT TURN MOVEMENTS SO THAT THEY CAN FLOW FREELY AFTER A QUICK STOP , BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYBODY STOPS ON RED BEFORE A TURN. IT WILL FREE UP THE RIGHT TURN LANE SO IT WON'T BACKUP AS MUCH TRAFFIC. OUR IMPROVEMENTS ALSO INCLUDE A REQUIREMENT, IF WARRANTED, FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE BOSTON ROAD EXCEPTION AT WILDWOOD DRIVE. WE CERTAINLY ANTICIPATE THE 600+ HOMES, AND IT WILL BE WARRANTED AT SOME POINT. THAT WILL HELP TRAFFIC ON WILDWOOD DRIVE, BECAUSE IT WILL CREATE GAPS IN THE TRAFFIC, SO PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON WILDWOOD DRIVE WILL BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT PERHAPS A LITTLE EASIER AS A RESULT OF THOSE GAPS. RIGHT NOW, BETWEEN U.S. 1 AND 207, THE TRAFFIC FREE FLOWS THE ENTIRE DISK. LAST TIME I DROVE IT AT 5:00 AT NIGHT, I DROVE 50 MILES AN HOUR AND I SAW ONE PERSON MAKING A RIGHT TURN. AND I JUST -- I JUST HAVE A QUOTE HERE THAT THE UCLA INSTITUTE TRANSFER STUDIES AFTER THE STUDY SAID, ANALYSIS CENTRAL TO LEVEL OF SERVICE BASED TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS TEND TO OVERESTIMATE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ALL TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS BUT THE BIASES LARGEST FOR HYATT DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS IN URBAN AREAS. DON'T ASK ME WHAT THAT ACRONYM 
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MEANS. IT APPEARS TO REDUCE THE BIAS AGAINST TIRED AND IN URBAN AREAS. EVEN THIS NEW IMPROVED METRIC MAY STILL RESULT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF TRIPS TO NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN CENTRAL AREAS ARE LIKELY SUBSTITUTES FOR A LONGER VEHICLE TRIP TO MORE DISTANT DESTINATIONS IF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE OUTLYING AREA INSTEAD. THINK OF THE FOUR FIREMEN TRAVELED TO THAT FIRE STATION FROM OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY ON LONGER TRIPS. 
          WE USE A LEVEL OF SERVICE SYSTEM . WE DON'T USE THE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED SYSTEM. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          >> OKAY . WE ARE GOING TO WRAP UP. JUST A COUPLE OF NOTES, THERE'S AN UPDATE SINCE YESTERDAY. SHE DID SEND AN EMAIL YESTERDAY THAT SHE HAS REVIEWED OUR SHARED MITIGATION AGREEMENT AND THEY HAVE APPROVED IT, SO THAT WILL BE GETTING SLATED ON THE OCTOBER SCHOOL BOARD AGENDA. THERE IS ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE'S WILL CAPACITY. THERE IS NOT HIGH SCHOOL CAPACITY AVAILABLE. THE SHARE AGREEMENT REQUIRES US TO PAY 617 $900 EVEN JUST FOR SCHOOL MITIGATION. A DEVELOPER WILL STILL HAVE TO PAY THE REMAINDER SCHOOL IMPACT FEES THAT ARE DUE. JUST AN UPDATE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THANKS FOR WORKING ON A HOLIDAY. PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION BENEFITS AND SOME OF WHAT GREG WAS TALKING ABOUT IS IN THE CONCURRENCY AND IMPACT FEE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS THE COMPANION AGREEMENTS. HE'S ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE ROAD BEING EXTENDED , AND WE SHOW YOU THE ROUTE. THERE ARE CURRENTLY APPROXIMATELY 195 LOCATED WEST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, AND ANOTHER 120 PROPOSED IN SUCCESSION. THIS IS GOING TO BE A DRAMATIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENT FOR THOSE WHO LIVE ALONG THE ROAD. SO PEOPLE WHO LIVE WEST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS ON WATSON ARE BLOCKED BY THE TRAIN. THEY CAN USE THIS COLLECTOR ROAD, WHICH WILL BE BUILT IN THE DEVELOPMENTS. SO THE ROAD -- CONSTRUCTION HAS TO COMMIT. AND CURRENTLY, HAVE A DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY AND IT HAS TO BE COLLATED PRIOR TO THE COUNTIES ISSUANCE FOR THE FIRST HOME IN THE PROJECT. THAT IS IN YOUR AGREEMENT. IN BETWEEN U.S. 1 AND WATCH THE ROAD, THAT IS ALSO DETAILED IN THE AGREEMENT. IT WILL HELP REDUCE THE STACKING ON WATSON ROAD ON U.S. 1 . AGAIN, THAT WILL BE DONE UP FROM THE PROJECT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OT , AND SO THAT ALSO IS COVERED IN THE IMPACT FEE CREDIT AGREEMENT. OTHER PUBLIC BENEFITS, GREG IS ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE 61% CAPACITY USED BY NON-PROJECT RELATED TRAFFIC. SO THAT IS THE ONLY BENEFIT THAT WE CAN CREDIT AGAINST PROMOTIONAL SHARE PAYMENT AND ENSURE COST THAT WILL BE GRANTED TO THE PROJECT, AND SEE $11 MILLION OR $18 MILLION WORK ORDER. AND ALSO, UNDER THE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS SPREADSHEET, TRAFFIC ON WILDWOOD HAS CHANGED. GREG HAS ALREADY TALKED THROUGH WITH YOU . THESE ARE ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED UNDER THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM FOR REZONING. AND SO YOU SEE THE NUMBERS OF UNITS, THIS PROJECT. IT WILL ALSO GIVE YOU A MAXIMUM BUILDOUT . IT GIVES 192 UNIT . THAT IS NOT QUITE AS MUCH IS ALL OF THOSE OTHER UNITS . ALL OF THOSE OTHERS. 
          BUT THIS MAKES ANOTHER GOOD DENT IN WORKFORCE HOUSING AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY. IN AN AREA WHERE IT IS WHERE PEOPLE WORK AND ARE DRIVING BY WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THE COUNTY TO COME WORK IN ST. JOHN'S. AGAIN, JUST A QUICK NOTE ABOUT 
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SAFETY -- WE KNOW HERE'S THE RAILROAD TRACK AT U.S. 1. THERE ARE A LOT OF WOLVES OF THIS AREA. ABOUT 300 EXISTING. 800 PEOPLE WILL BE LIVING EAST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS. THIS IS A HUGE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE FOR THOSE PEOPLE AND FIRST RESPONDERS YOU NEED TO GET TO THOSE PEOPLE. SO JUST NOTING THAT. AND THEN ALSO, ADDITIONAL BENEFIT IS NOTED. WITH PRICES AS OF THIS YEAR, $267,000 . THE PROJECT WILL IMPROVE DRAINAGE. 
          THE PROPERTY THAT MR. YOUNG ADDRESSED, GIVING THEM ACCESS TO THE SOUTH. THE EXISTING DRAINAGE DITCH WILL BE CLEANED OUT AND WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HLA. WE REMAIN PURSUANT TO DISTRICT AND COUNTY REGULATION, AND THERE WERE ALSO IMPROVEMENTS UTILITIES AROUND THIS AREA. JUST TO WRAP UP, WE NOTED THAT -- THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A STRAIGHTER EUCLIDEAN ZONING. SO TYPICALLY, FOR A REZONING OF THIS TYPE, THERE WOULD BE NO COMPANION PLAYING OR REQUIREMENTS. WE AGREED WITH STAFF EARLY ON THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND THIS AREA THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONDITIONS WE PUT IN THE NARRATIVE TO THIS PROJECT PUBLIC BENEFIT . WE HAVE AGREED TO AN ORDINANCE ON THE CONDITIONAL REZONING, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF OVER THE LAST EIGHT WEEKS . THE DRAFT THAT IS IN YOUR FOLDER IS THE LATEST DRAFT THAT WE TWEAKED LAST WEEK TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS UNDERSTOOD , AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT EACH OF THESE CONDITIONS. A MAXIMUM OF 640 UNITS , AND A MINIMUM OF THOSE UNITS WILL BE A MINIMUM OF 30%. 
          WHATEVER THE MAXIMUM THE WORKFORCE HAS. 
          >> 30% OF WHATEVER THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF UNIT. 
          >> CORRECT. >> MINIMUM 180. 
          >> YES. IT REQUIRES TWO YEARS OF AFFORDABILITY. LOOKING IN THAT SALE PRICE, FOR THIS APPLICANT IS AGREEING . SO THAT HOME, IF IT NEEDS TO BE SOLD, HAS TO BE SOLD TO SOMEBODY WHO -- THAT SALE PRICE AGAIN, IT'S A WORKFORCE HOUSING ORDINANCE. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THE 20 FOOT WED BUFFERS THAT WE SHOWED YOU WITH A SITE PLAN. THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A FENCE , BECAUSE SHE WAS ONE OF THE ADJACENT OWNERS, AND I KNOW THAT SHE IS STILL NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH THE PROJECT, BUT WERE GIVING HER ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY OF 20 FEET, NOT 10 FEET. THEN AGAIN, THE EXTENSION OF WATSON ROAD IS A MINOR COLLECTOR, THAT MINOR COLLECTOR SO PEOPLE CAN BIKE OR RUN SAFELY ALONG THAT CONNECTED TO THE ROAD. THE RIGHT-HAND DECELERATION LANE PROVIDING OUT OF THE PROJECT, SO ANY SIGNAL THAT IS WEREN'T IT IS WRITTEN INTO THE DESCRIPTION NOT ONLY WITH THE REZONING ORDINANCE, BUT ALSO IN YOUR CONCURRENCE THE IMPACT THE CREDIT AGREEMENT. IF THAT IS WARRANTED, THIS PROJECT WILL BE PUTTING IT IN THE TURN LANE INTO U.S. 1. WRITTEN INTO THE CONCURRENCY AGREEMENT. THE WATER MAIN WITHIN THE RIGHT AWAY EXTENSION. AND ALSO THE INSTALLATION OF A 12 INCH WATER MAIN. THE LAST DETAIL ON NUMBER 9 IS WAS FINALIZED LAST WEEK. THE ORDINANCE THAT THIS PROPERTY WOULD CREATE A DRAINAGE EASEMENT OVER THAT 
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DITCH THAT RUNS ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY , DRAINING A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT LIVE SOUTH ON THAT ROAD. ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES DRAINED TO THE NORTH. IN THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE AN EASEMENT TO ACCESS THE MAINTENANCE. SO WE WERE NOTIFIED LAST WEEK THAT THE COUNTY DOES NOT LIKE THAT EASEMENT, SO WE'VE WRITTEN INTO THIS ORDINANCE AS OF LAST WEEK THAT THE PROPERTY FOR THE H AWAY, FOR THIS PROPERTY, IT GETS CLEANED OUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT. AND THAT THE STORM WATER FOR THIS PROJECT WILL BE TREATED. WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY, AND YOU SEE THE DEVELOPMENT OF STORM WATER CONDITIONS AS TO SOMETHING . HE IS OUR PROJECT ENGINEER, AND HE WILL NEED THAT LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE HE IS COMPLIANT WITH THE CODE REGULATIONS. IT TURNED OUT IT WAS A SURPRISE SUPPORTER OF THE PROJECT. HE LIVES ALONG THE WATSON ROAD AREA , AND I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THIS. YOU MIGHT WANT TO READ IT, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HOPE WE CAN ALL THINK ABOUT TODAY. 
          >> SHE IS A WONDERFUL LADY, GINNY SPIEGEL. PART OF THE PROBLEM IS EVERYBODY WANTS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT ME , AND THAT PRECLUDES A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM BEING ABLE TO AFFORD THE HOUSE. 
          I AM JUST SAYING THAT MY MIND HAS CHANGED FOR NEW SOLUTIONS. 
          I BELIEVE THE WORKFORCE IN OUR COMMUNITY AS A PART OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO COMFORTABLY -- BECAUSE IT'S A FLEXIBLE TERM IN THIS DAY AND AGE, TO FLEXIBLY THE UPWARD MOVING, HOW MUCH THEY PRESERVE EVERYTHING ELSE, THE COUNTY WILL NOT SURVIVE. OUR FOUNDATION REALLY NEEDS TO BE FIRM, AND THE FOUNDATION'S 
          PEOPLE. THANK YOU. >> MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, WE CLOSE OUR PRESENTATION, AND WE ARE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT 
          OR REBUTTAL. >> THINK YOU. ACTUALLY HAD TO DO THIS, WHICH LET YOU GUYS FINISH YOUR PRESENTATION AS A COURTESY. IF YOU WANT TO ASK THE BOARD TO WITHHOLD THEIR 
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QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME AND WE GO TO 30 MINUTES A GENERAL 
          PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. ANY PERSON SHOULD COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE HIS OR HER NAME OR ADDRESS. THEY SHALL COMPLY WITH THE BOARD'S RULES OF DECORUM AND COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE AND NOT CONTAIN RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD. NO PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR. APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS. PLEASE PRESENT THAT MATERIAL TO STAFF TO BE ENTERED INTO PUBLIC RECORD. THANK YOU. 
          >> BEST CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE. QUESTION, WHEN WILL THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE BE ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, NOT CONSENT? IT IS INTERESTING. TODAY'S ITEM NUMBER FIVE, NO ACTION WAS REQUIRED. HOWEVER, TWO COMMISSIONERS HAD 25 -- I REPEAT, 25 INDIVIDUALS TO SPEAK . AT THE AUGUST 20 BCCA, NO ACTION FROM THE MAGISTRATE, WITH THE PUBLIC NOT PERMITTED TO SPEAK. HOW YOU ARE TREATING THE PUBLIC IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          QUESTION -- WHEN WILL THE COUNTY ATTORNEY BE HIRED ? TO INCREASE SALES TAX AT AN EMERGENCY MEETING ON AUGUST 22ND AT 2:30 P.M. SHOULD HAVE BEEN THAT AUGUST 20TH BCC MEETING. BE THERE AS LEGAL MUMBO-JUMBO, BUT YOU KNEW WHAT YOU NEEDED TO DO AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME TO OR EVEN YOU ABOUT THAT MEETING. TRANSPARENCY. IT'S A VERY INTERESTING WORK, TRANSPARENCY . AND I'D ALSO 
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LIKE TO SAY I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO LISTEN TO 91.5 FM FOR ENCOURAGE WENT. I ALSO WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME IN HERE . THIS COMMISSION DECIDED THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK FROM 11:30 TO 12:00, AND UNFORTUNATELY, WHATEVER ITEMS ARE CONTINUED , BECAUSE THE COMMISSION THINKS IT IS MORE IMPORTANT, AND I THINK THE TIME ON PRESENTATIONS SHOULD BE LIMITED, AND I THINK IF THAT CAN'T BE HANDLED PROPERLY, TO GET THE PUBLIC TO COME IN HERE AND SPEAK AS PROPERTY OWNERS, AND WHAT THEY THINK IS IMPORTANT TO ANY OF THE PEOPLE HAVE AN ATTORNEY OR A LAWYER OR A TEAM TO COME IN HERE AND THEY GO ON AND ON AND ON AFTER ALREADY GIVING INFORMATION TO U.S. COMMISSIONERS , THEY CAN'T. 
          >> I AM VICKI PEPPER FROM SAINT AUGUSTINE AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MYSELF. ITEMS 6 AND 7 RAISE ISSUES IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND. WE NOTED GROWTH POLICIES ARE UNREALISTIC IN THE HOUSING CRISIS. A GROWING NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES , ESPECIALLY IN HOSPITALITY AND AIR INDUSTRIES CAN AFFORD TO LIVE HERE, THAT IS ONLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE CONSTRAINTS. 
          WE MUST MANAGE NECESSARY GROWTH STRATEGICALLY, AND SPARK GROSS REQUIRES -- ATTAINABLE BY ESSENTIAL WORKERS AT A WIDE RANGE OF INCOME LEVELS. ANY TRADE-OFFS MUST PROVIDE SUFFICIENT VALUE TO THE PUBLIC. ON JUNE 20TH, 2023, THE COUNTY WAS MOVING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION FOR THE PERCENTAGE OF WORKFORCE HOUSING WORK WIRED, AND OBTAINING A DENSITY BONUS. 
          NONETHELESS, YOU APPROVE THESE CHANGES THAT THE DEVELOPER APPEARS TO BE SEEKING TODAY. WHATEVER YOU AUTHORIZE MORE DEVELOPMENT, A REPRESENTS TO RESIDENTS , GREATLY AND MARGINALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING SEEMS UNLIKELY TO BE WORTH THE POTENTIAL COMPATIBILITY ISSUES IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT. AS STEWARDS OF THE PUBLIC TRUST, YOU MUST LEVERAGE WHATEVER YOU HAVE FOR THE MAXIMUM LEVEL OF IMPACT. EVEN IN THE ABSENCE OF HOUSING AUTHORITY, AND SHOULD BE ZONING REGULATIONS THAT YOU AND STAFF CAN THEN USE AGGRESSIVELY FOR HOUSING STOCK. WE NEED MORE HOUSING OPTIONS. THE IDENTIFICATION FOR INCREASED BUILDING DENSITY. TO REACH WORKERS AT ALL LEVELS. 
          SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER TIME. FOR EXAMPLE, CORRESPONDINGLY MORE AND BETTER INCENTIVES FOR ESSENTIAL WORKERS AND RETIRED SENIORS WHO FIND THEM SELVES AT THE 30% INCOME LEVELS WERE BELOW . PROVIDING SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF HAZARDS. TO CREATE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE HOUSING AND INCREASE THE STRAIN ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH COULD LEAD US TO BECOME MORE OF A COMMUNITY FOR JACKSONVILLE. I LIVE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE AND I EXPECT MOST JOHNSON COUNTY RESIDENTS WOULD AGREE. THANK 
          YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY SISTER WHO IS A PROPERTY BY THE LAKES. 
          >> SIR, CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS? 
          >> THIS IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. NOT THE LAKES. 
          >> I THOUGHT THIS WAS COMMENT. I'M SORRY. 
          >> MY APOLOGIES. 
          >> RICHARD NORWOOD . DESPITE ENORMOUS DISPARITIES, IT WAS 
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ALMOST A CLEAN SWEEP THREESOME. UNBELIEVABLY, FOUR OF YOU HAVE NEVER ONCE RESPONDED TO MY CHARGES OF PUBLIC WORKS FRAUD DUTY-BOUND, ETHICAL, COMPASSIONATE, REALISTIC, TO ME. THESE ETHICS ALSO DEPRIVE THEM FROM EVERY LAST RESIDENT SORTED TO PROTECT THIS CONSTITUENCY. THE FOUR OF YOU WOULD HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC WE ARE OATH OF OFFICE MEANS TO YOU PERSONALLY EITHER BY PUBLIC COMMENTS, USING THE DEVELOPER'S TIMESTAMP, AND THEN BEYOND THAT DISCUSSION , YOUR PAST CONDUCT REGARDING THE SPECIFIC FRAUD CASE AS IT RELATES TO FLORIDA STATUTES TITLE 10 , SECTION 3133. IN SECTION 111, YOU HAVE REPRESENTATION ON CIVIL MATTERS. THIS IS ESPECIALLY INSULTING FOR AN OUTSIDE ATTORNEY . OUR DESANTIS APPOINTED COMMISSIONER REFUSED TO EVEN GRANT ME AN INITIAL HEARING . WHY? SHE DISPARAGES 
          AND -- >> SIR, WERE NOT ALLOWING 
          PERSONAL ATTACKS. >> THEY REFUSE TO CALL THESE FRAUDS AGAINST ME A CRIME. INVESTIGATORS TOOK NO ACTION AND DEFIANTLY HUMILIATE AND DISMISS MY CREDIBILITY BY CLASSIFYING IT AS CIVIL ACTION ONLY. THEY BEEN TRYING TO DRAG DOWN THAT COULD HAVE COST ME THOUSANDS OF MORE DOLLARS TO DISCOUNT AND INTENTIONAL CREATION. THE TEXT READS, AND I QUOTE, THE GOOD NEWS IS AN ATTORNEY DISCUSSED SETTLING THE CASE. HE DID CAUTION ME THAT THE BOARD MAY NOT SETTLE DUE TO YOUR APPEARANCES AT THE MEETINGS. I TOLD THEM, WELL, LET'S TAKE SOME OF THEIR LAND IN PRIVACY AND SEE HOW THEY 
          FEEL ABOUT IT. >> YOUR TIME IS UP. 
          >> YEAH. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER 
          NORWOOD. >> SHERRY BADGER, 2772 SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE. THIS JUST GOES TO SHOW , ONE OF YOU COMMISSIONERS TOLD ME TWO OUT OF THREE WENT BAD ONE TIME. ALL YOU COMMISSIONERS NEED TO BE VERY AWARE, THE PUBLIC IS WATCHING YOU. WE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. YOU STAND FOR THOSE WHO MAKE UNDER -- OVER $250,000 A YEAR . $70,000 A YEAR . BUT WHAT ARE YOU WHAT YOU STAND UP FOR PUBLIC THAT WASHES YOUR KIDS DISHES , FOLDS YOUR LAUNDRY, AND THESE KIND OF PEOPLE? THEY DON'T MAKE $70,000 A YEAR. YOU ALL NEED TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE. GOD BLESS, HAVE A GREAT DAY. 
          >> GOOD MORNING. WE CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO YOU WITH REGARDS TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I SPOKE AT THE AUGUST 20TH MEETING. THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER NUMEROUS CALLS FROM OUR ATTORNEY. WE'VE COME TO YOU FOR A SOLUTION. YOU CONTINUE TO FIND US $50 A DAY IS JUNE 12TH IT GIVE UNWAVERING SUPPORT TO OTHER HOMEOWNERS. WE ACTUALLY TRY TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS SO THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO REMOVE THEIR PAVERS OR HAVE ANY CONSEQUENCES. THEY'VE BEEN INSTALLED TO THE PROPERTY LINE . WE KNOW OF HOMES IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR INSPECTIONS AND THE COUNTY IS NOT FOLLOWING UP ON THESE. 
          >> THEY ARE GIVEN APPLYING , AND THEY CAN'T WAIT TO SEE 
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WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE COUNTY PAVER CODE. LONG BEFORE HE CAME ALONG. TRYING TO FIND ANY REASON. I KNOW YOU WILL CONTINUE TO IGNORE US. THERE WERE MULTIPLE HOMEOWNERS FOR THE SAME PAPER VIOLATION AND MAY BE MUCH WORSE. AND SPOKE TO THEM AND ASSURED THEM THAT THEY WOULD NOT NEED TO REMOVE THEIR PAVERS. THEY HAVE THE SAME COUNTY SUPPORT WHEN THEY CALLED IT. WHEN CAN WE EXPECT AN ANSWER? OR CONTINUE TO IGNORE THIS ISSUE AND ALL THE VIOLATIONS REPORTED BY US AND OTHERS AFTER APPLYING FOR A NON-ZONING VARIANCE? IGNORING THIS PROBLEM WILL MAKE THE SITUATION WORSE. WE ARE THE ONLY ONES EXPECTED TO REMOVE OUR PAVERS. WE REACHED OUT MANY TIMES TO YOU AND OTHER COUNTY PROFESSIONALS , PROHIBITED AND ILLEGAL. SPEAKING OF EVERY MEETING UNTIL WE RECEIVE THE SAME EXACT TREATMENT . SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON, ANN TAYLOR. I AM ANN TAYLOR AND I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE PRIMARY ELECTION OF AUGUST 20TH. MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WANT TO ADDRESS MY GRATITUDE FOR THE SUPPORT I RECEIVED AFTER THE VOTES OF CONFIDENCE THAT I LEFT TO A PRIMARY WIN, WHICH IS VERY HUMBLING. I HAD AN EXTREMELY FORMIDABLE OPPONENT, AND IF THERE IS ONE THING HE AND I AGREE ON, IS THAT WE BOTH CARE VERY MUCH. I THINK YOU FOR HIS EIGHT YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE COUNTY. I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING EVEN MORE RESIDENCE IN THE COMING MONTH AND LEARNING ABOUT WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE. I ALREADY KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU WANT TO SEE THIS COMMISSION GROW AS I DO. I WILL ALWAYS MAKE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND TEACHERS A TOP PRIORITY. I WILL BE A STRONG, CONSERVATIVE STEWARD OF OUR TAX DOLLARS, AND I BELIEVE WE CAN RUN A MORE EFFICIENT GOVERNMENT. WE NEED TO MAINTAIN A THRIVING LOCAL ECONOMY AND THE TOURISM INDUSTRY. I LOOK FORWARD TO RESIDENTS GIVING TO KNOW ME AND WHAT I STAND FOR, WHICH IS NOT HOW I WAS DEPICTED BY ONE WHOSE LIES ABOUT ME WERE SO FAR-FETCHED THAT MANY PEOPLE SAW RIGHT THROUGH THEM. OTHERS DID NOT, AND THEY WERE DUPED. 
          THAT IS NO WAY TO RUN A CAMPAIGN, AND THAT IS NO WAY TO SELECT LEADERS. ANYONE WHO NEEDS LIES AND DECEPTIONS TO WIN SHOULD BE RUNNING FOR PUBLIC OFFICE. ANOTHER PRIORITY WILL BE THE CONFERENCE A PLAN, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING INPUT TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMISSION IS PROPERLY PLANNING FOR FUTURE GROWTH AND FOR THE FUTURE NEEDS. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT OUR DIMINISHING FARMLAND, AND I DON'T LEAVE OUR PRESERVATION OF GREEN SPACES AND WILDLIFE HABITATS IS SUFFICIENT GIVEN OUR RATE GROWTH. WE NEED MORE NATURAL AREAS CLOSE TO WHERE PEOPLE LIVE, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO ESTABLISHING THOSE ACTIONS. MAKING THAT HAPPEN IS MOST CERTAINLY NOT A TRADE TAX, AS WAS FALSELY STATED IN THE ATTACK ADVERTISING ABOUT MICE. INTEGRITY AND TRANSPARENCY WILL CONTINUE TO BE CENTRAL TO MY OWN CAMPAIGN TO THE CREDIT COMMISSIONER THAT I WILL BE. THANK YOU. 
          >> NICOLE CROSBY , 1169 NET GROWTH. I AM HERE TO VOICE MY VERY, VERY STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE UTILIZATION OF POLITICAL ATTACK ADVERTISING IN A MANNER THAT IS PURELY FICTIONAL. I MEAN, LET'S TO SAY IT, LIES. ANYWAY TO SUBVERT OUR DEMOCRACY. THAT IS WHAT I SAW HAPPENING. TAX RAISING , TAGTEAM, AND ANOTHER TAX. THE TAX RACING TEAM -- HIGHER TAXES , OUR TRADE TAX , SUPPORTS PROPERTY TAX HIKE . THIS ONE 
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WANTS TO TAX TREATIES, AND IS A WEST COAST LIBERAL. IT'S INTERESTING . I DIDN'T REALIZE ARIZONA WAS ON THE WEST COAST. 
          LOOK AT THIS ONE. WHEN IT COMES TO TAX RAISING, LOCK YOUR DOORS AND HIDE YOUR WALLETS. SO I JUST FEEL THAT THESE THINGS SHOULD NOT -- WE ALL SAW THEM, WE WERE HORRIFIED BY THEM, I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S LIKE, OKAY, LET'S GET ON WITH OUR LIVES. I FEEL THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND DISCOURAGED. I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF NEGATIVE ADVERTISING IF IT IS ON HIS. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF JUST BLATANT LIES. I MEAN, THESE OPPONENTS NEVER ONCE SPOKE ABOUT RAISING A PROPERTY TAX. SO THEN IT JUST BECOMES, WHO HAS THE MOST MONEY TO PUT BEHIND THESE LAWS? AND THAT'S WHAT IT WAS . MONEY AND LIES. I WAS THE STRATEGY. I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS A STRATEGY OF THE CANDIDATES THEMSELVES OR INCUMBENTS, BUT IT WAS A STRATEGY OF LIES AND MONEY, COUPLING THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER. ADVERTISING IS MY FIELD. I'VE BEEN IN IT , WORKING FOR MAJOR AD AGENCIES SINCE THE AGE OF 21, AND I PRETTY MUCH HAVE SEEN IT ALL, I THINK. I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE. THIS WAS A FIRST FOR ME. THE VOLUME OF THE DEGREE OF FABRICATION , I HAVE JUST NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT. I KNOW IT IS WRONG. WE TELL OUR CHILDREN NOT TO LIE. WE KNOW IT'S WRONG TO LIE. ONE OF THE COMMANDMENTS SAYS DON'T LIE. I'M JUST HOPING WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS IN TWO YEARS WILL STOP DOING IT. WE SAW HAPPENING TWO YEARS AGO TO JOE. WHAT IT WAS SAID THAT HE RAISED A TAX -- AGAIN, A TAX, 40% -- COMPLETE FICTION COULD HAVE COST IN THAT ELECTION. IT'S NOT RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THIS, UNTIL IT STOPS. THANK YOU. 
          >> HI . 208 LAVALLEE ROAD. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HONESTY -- THE CLAMOR OF THE CROWD. THE CLAMOR OF THE CROWD. WE HEARD SEVERAL OF YOU USE THAT PHRASE ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS FOR THE PURPOSE OF BASICALLY TELLING US WHAT WE SAY DOESN'T MATTER. 
          WHAT DOES THE TERM MEAN? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CLAMOR OF THE CROWD MEANS -- YOU HAVE 40 PEOPLE SHOW UP AND EVERYBODY COMES UP HERE TO SAY, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO DO THAT. 
          VOTE AGAINST THAT FOR NO REASON. THAT'S THE CLAMOR OF THE CROWD. THE CLAMOR OF THE CROWD IS NOT 140 PEOPLE COME IN HERE AND THEY HAVE DONE THEIR RESEARCH AND THEY GIVE YOU REASONS AND EXAMPLES AND PHOTOGRAPHS AND SOLID APPLICABLE DATA. THAT IS NOT THE CLAMOR OF THE CROWD. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT SAY THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION UNDER ITERATION WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISIONS. WE ARE CLAMORING TO BE LISTENED TO, BECAUSE YOU SOMETHING WORTHWHILE TO SAY AND BE HEARD. WE DESERVE TO BE HEARD. IT WILL COME UP AGAIN AND AGAIN IN THE NEAR FUTURE, AND THAT IS THE CHEVRON DEFERENCE DOCTRINE. THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES RECENTLY REVERSED THE CHEVRON DEFERENCE . WHAT I DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE, IT WAS A DISSOLUTION OF THE 1984 SCOTUS RULING THAT GAVE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THE RIGHT TO CONSIDER THEMSELVES EXPERTS. MORE SPECIFICALLY, IT WAS A LEGAL DOCTRINE THAT REQUIRED COURTS TO DEFER TO GOVERNMENT AGENCY INTERPRETATION OF AN AMBIGUOUS OR UNCLEAR STATUTE. IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR , AND A DECISION THAT MADE WAVES , THE SUPREME COURT OVERTURNED THE CHEVRON DEFERENCE DOCTRINE. IN THE RECENT PAST, THEY HAVE 
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LITERALLY IGNORED PILES OF APPLICABLE STUDIES , PHOTOS, AND WITH THE REVERSAL OF THE CHEVRON DEFERENCE DOCTRINE , CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY SHOULD NOW DEMAND TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER INFORMATION TO RE-PRESENT AND GIVE OUR EXPERTS THERE APPROPRIATE AND WELL EARNED RESPECT. THINK. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON. FIRST, I LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ROLE OF VISUAL MARKETING FOR THEIR CAMPAIGN FOR THE PREVIOUS ELECTION . FERGUSON, SHE PULLED OUT A JOB . HE COULDN'T LEAVE THE VILLAGE FROM UP IN JACKSONVILLE TO COME DOWN HERE. 
          BUT NOW THERE'S THE OTHER TWO WHO WILL BE FILLING PALLETS AND STILL LISTED, WHICH NORMALLY WILL HAPPEN IS THEY WILL PULL ALL OF IT HERE IN A LITTLE WHILE. MOVING ON FROM THAT, AS I SPOKE ABOUT THIS FLORIDA STATE SENATE BILL WHICH WAS RECENTLY SIGNED BY DESANTIS THAT ALLOWS THE STORY OF OCTOBER 1ST, THE AMOUNT OF PROMIS PUSHED INTO DEVELOPERS AT ONE TIME CAN BE UP TO 50% OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT. OF THE DEVELOPMENTS. THAT'S A LIE. THAT'S A WAY TO CONTROL THE DEVELOPMENT , TO SMOOTH IT OUT. WHAT I FOUND OUT WAS, WITH THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DOUBLING THE SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS , AND AS I SPOKE TO THE PERMIT SECTION AND PLANNING AND ZONING, I SAID WE NEED TO MAKE IT BIGGER, BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE MORE WORK COMING IN. AND I ASKED HIM IF THERE'S A RIBBON-CUTTING PARTY OR SOMETHING , THE WHITE THOSE IN THE AIR, PEACE AND HARMONY THEY HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING BACK TO ME ON THAT. SO IT'S A $13 MILLION BUILDING PLACED DIRECTLY BEHIND ROAD MANAGEMENT, AND SO THAT'S TO CONTROL THE VOLUME OF DEVELOPMENT THIS COME INTO THIS COUNTY. VERY, VERY INTERESTING THAT THE TWO MAIN PEOPLE THAT WROTE THAT BILL AND DROVE IT WAS HUDSON, WHO IS UP IN THERE, AND PARTNER SENATOR BRADLEY. 
          SHE REPLACED HER HUSBAND, ROB BRADLEY, OF THE LAW FIRM. SO IT IS KIND OF -- I TOLD PEOPLE, DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ARE IN THESE. STAY RIGHT HERE. IT IS AMAZING WHAT GOES ON HERE. THAT'S WHAT IS COMING UP. FINDING OUT THIS BIG BILL IS COMING DOWN AND IS A NEW $13 MILLION ADDITION TO IT. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JUDY. I LIKE THAT THE MICROPHONES ARE LONGER FOR SHORT PEOPLE LIKE ME. I JUST HAVE ONE SMALL COMMENT TO MAKE REGARDING THE MEETING THAT YOU HAD ABOUT THIS BOARDS ADDITIONS TO THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER , AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ONE COMMENT THAT HAS BEEN MADE A BUNCH OF TIMES ABOUT A TAX INCREASE BEING PUT ON THE BALLOT. IT'S ACTUALLY NOT A TAX INCREASE. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH JENNIFER COLLINS ABOUT THIS. SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. IT IS THE ONE PENNY SALES TAX THAT WAS APPROVED NINE YEARS AGO, AND THAT IS A LARGE PORTION OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S BUDGET, AND IT IS SET TO EXPIRE NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS NOT AN ELECTION YEAR, WHICH MEANS IT NEEDS TO GO ON THE BALLOT. IT'S JUST MAINTAINING THE TAXES THAT ARE COLLECTED, AND THEIR SCHOOL DISTRICT REALLY NEEDS THIS MONEY. SO I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, CUT DOWN THAT IMPRESSION THAT IT IS AN INCREASE IN HAVE EVERYBODY TO SAY, NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S AN INCREASE. IT'S NOT AN INCREASE. IT'S JUST MAINTAINING A LEVEL THAT WE ARE ALREADY DIVIDING FOR OUR CHILDREN AND OUR TEACHERS, AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
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THE MILLAGE RATE INCREASES A DIFFERENT STORY, BUT THEY ARE BOTH GOING ON THE BALLOT. THANK YOU. 
          >> I'M GOING TO USE WAS USED AT THE LAST MEETING -- 
          >> SIR, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? 
          >> I'M SORRY. I OWN THE LARGEST PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE DITCH. I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THE BRIEFING THAT WE USED AT THE LAST -- 
          >> IS THIS ABOUT THE LAKES? WE ARE NOT DOING THE LAKES RIGHT NOW. WE ARE CLOSING OUT GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          >> THIS IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          >> WE WILL HAVE THEM COME BACK UP AND FINISH THEIR PRESENTATION AND THEN WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON OSCEOLA LAKES. I KNOW, IT IS CONFUSING. I'M SORRY. 
          >> WE HAVE ONE MORE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IF THEY WOULD 
          LIKE TO COME FORWARD. >> THANK YOU. THIS WAY I DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL LATER. SUZANNE , 109 32086. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING AT 5:00 TODAY ABOUT MILLAGE AND BUDGET, AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE MY COMMENT ABOUT THAT NOW IN CASE I DON'T MAKE IT BACK TO THE MEETING LATER. I AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF YOU VOTING YES TO THE BUDGET AND THE MILLAGE RATE TO BE WHAT NEEDS TO BE FOR THAT BUDGET AT IT HAS PRESENTLY BEEN PUT OUT TO BE COVERED BY THE MILLAGE. I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF ROLLING IT BACK. WE ARE A GREAT COUNTY. I WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. I THINK THAT I GOT MY LITTLE TRIM NOTICE, AS WELL AS BOTH OF MY DAUGHTERS WHO OWN PROPERTY IN THE COUNTY . THE AMOUNT OF OUR TAXES GOING UP IS RIGHT AROUND $100. I CAN HANDLE $100 TO HAVE MY SERVICES AND EVERYTHING ELSE CONTINUE JUST THE WAY THEY ARE. YOU KNOW, THE ROLE THE GOVERNMENT HAVE HAD INCREASES DUE TO INFLATION, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. AND I WANT MY SERVICES TO REMAIN IN PLACE THE WAY THAT I EXPECT. 
          OTHERWISE, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING YOU WOULD HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO CUTS THAT BUDGET THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED BY A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY BACK . SO IF I DON'T MAKE IT BACK THIS AFTERNOON, I WANTED TO HAVE MY 
          SAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE PUBLIC,, THE HALF A PERCENT SALES TAX IS SUNSETTING. BUT PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE IT'S AN INCREASE. IF IT PASSES, IT WOULD JUST BE TO MAINTAIN THE SAME SALES TAX THAT'S ALREADY GOING ON. IT WAS SORT OF TAKEN BACK BY CROSBY TALKING ABOUT NEGATIVE ATTACK ADS . IF YOU ARE A RESIDENT WHO DISAGREES OF MS. CROSBY, SHE WILL ATTACK YOU, 
          TOO. >> MADAM CHAIR, AS A COMMISSIONER COMMENTS AT THIS POINT? ARE WE ALLOWED TO? 
          >> YES. YES. SHE WILL ATTACK YOU TO IF YOU ARE A RESIDENT YOU DON'T DISAGREE WITH HER. IT'S ON HER WEBPAGE. 
          >> MS. CROSBY, YOU ARE NOT RECOGNIZED. YOU ARE NOT RECOGNIZED. YOU'VE DONE THAT FOR YEARS. FOR YEARS, YOU ATTACK PEOPLE . FOR A COUPLEOF MONTHS, CANDIDATE THAT SHE SUPPORTS WERE ATTACKED THROUGH PACS , AND SHE DOESN'T LIKE 
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IT. JUST UNDERSTAND, SHE WANTS EVERYBODY ELSE TO FOLLOW THE RULES THAT SHE HERSELF DOES NOT. 
          >> THANK YOU. MISS AVERY SMITH , IF YOU LIKE TO COME BACK UP, I THINK YOUR PRESENTATION WAS CONCLUDED, BUT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, LET'S GO AHEAD AND HEAR THEM NOW. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT OSCEOLA LAKES AT THIS POINT. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR OSCEOLA LAKES. PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME, STATE YOUR ADDRESS, YOU WILL BE GIVEN A MINUTE. 
          >> WE HAVE ONE DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS ITEM. HE 
          WILL BE ALLOWED 10 MINUTES. >> I LIKE FOR THEM TO START 
          THEN. >> MR. GODFREY. 
          >> AND WE GET THE PRESENTATION UP, PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON . 
          CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS STEVE GODFREY. I LIVE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE. I'M REPRESENTING ABOUT 30 HOMEOWNERS . I'D LIKE YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M NOT HERE AS A NEXT, BUT I HAVE SPENT AN ENTIRE CAREER OF 35 YEARS IN TRANSPORTATION, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. WE HAVE THREE PRIMARY CONCERNS . WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE POST- TO IT IN THE ABSENCE OF THESE THREE THINGS. THERE'S A PROPOSED COLLECTOR ROAD, AND U.S. ONE . THE SECONDARY IMPACT -- BASICALLY, THERE'S TWO BIGGER CONCERNS. ONE IS PROTECTING THE SERVICE FOLLOWING, IN THE SECOND IS PROTECTING THE WILDWOOD DRIVE FROM UNINTENDED IMPACTS. SERVICE VOLUMES CAN BE UP, AND SERVICE VOLUMES COULD BE DOWN. WE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT THE SERVICE VOLUME , WHICH IS THE DESIGNATED SERVICE VOLUME WEST OF DEAR CHASE IS A GOOD NUMBER. IT IS ONE THAT PROVIDES FOR THE PROPER BALANCE OF LOCAL ACCESS O AND THROUGH TRAFFIC. YOU LOOK AT THE CHART ON THE SCREEN, AND ARTERIAL DOES NOT FAVOR LOCAL ACCESS. IT IS A BALANCE OF THOSE TWO. SO SERVICE VOLUME SO THAT YOU DON'T MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE. THIS EXHIBIT HAS THREE DOTS ON IT. THE RED DOT IS THE INTERSECTION OF DEAR CHASE . THE ODOT IS A COUNT STATION . THE BLUE DOT IS ANOTHER. USING STANDARD METHODOLOGY, THERE'S A PROJECTION OF FUTURE TRAFFIC VOLUMES ON WILDWOOD BETWEEN THE RED DOT IN THE BLUE DOT. THE EXISTING VOLUMES APPLIED TO THAT WHOLE LINK. WHEN YOU CONSIDER BRING COUGH AND THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS FROM THAT ROAD AND TO THE SOUTH, IT IS PERFECTLY REASONABLE TO EXPECT THE ACTUAL PROJECTED VOLUMES BETWEEN THE RED DOT IN THE BLUE DOT WILL BE WORSE THAN WHAT IS PROJECTED IN THE CURRENT TRAFFIC. NOT THAT IT IS OVERCAPACITY, BUT IT'S GETTING A LOT CLOSER THAN IS SUGGESTED IN THAT STUDY. HERE'S WHAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. NOT BECAUSE ANYONE WANTED IT THIS WAY, BUT THEY HAVE A TOTAL VOLUME OF -- AN HOUR. WHEN I DROVE UP HERE THIS MORNING, I DROVE UP AND THE TRAFFIC WAS CUTE ALL THE WAY FROM 207 TO 
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KING STREET . NOT A PRETTY PICTURE. IT WASN'T INTENDED TO BE THAT WAY. IT IS BECAUSE OF CONTINUITY TO RELIEVE THAT COLLECTOR. THEY HAVE A SERVICE VOLUME OF 14. 1900 VEHICLES . 
          YOU SAY, HOW COULD THAT HAPPEN? WE ARE CERTAIN THAT THIS ROAD IS LIKE A HOLE IN THE DAM. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS BEHIND THE DAM. RIGHT NOW, THE CURRENT SITUATION IS ABOUT 640 UNITS ON TOP OF THE UNITS FROM SUCCESSION. 740 TOGETHER. WHAT ABOUT THE 150 ACRES THAT'S ALSO JUST SOUTH OF OSCEOLA LAKES? YOU CAN IMPROVE OSCEOLA LAKES ABOUT ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE AND SAY, WE WANT TO DO THE SAME THING. AND SO YOU DO IT NOW AND ANOTHER 640 UNITS. NOW WE ARE UP TO 1300 PLUS, AND THEN LOTS OF LAND NOT REZONED YET , LOOKING FOR REZONING. OUR CONCERN IS THAT WE STARTED ON WILDWOOD DRIVE WITH THE RIGHT KIND OF SERVICE VOLUME , AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, CAUSING UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WHERE WE GOT CONTINUITY BETWEEN ALL OF THAT TO THE SOUTH . SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS A CAREFUL STUDY , LOOKING AT THE IMPACT , PUTTING THE COLLECTOR IN , BUT NOT JUST LOOKING AT OSCEOLA LAKES. SO THAT YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE NOT MAKING A MISTAKE PUTTING UP SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T PUT A CORK IN LATER ON. THE SECOND THING IS, WATSON WROTE. THE DOTTED LINE SHOWS THE PROPOSED NEW COLLECTOR ROAD AND THE SOLID LINE IS THE PORTION OF THE ROAD -- WATSON ROAD IS NOT MUCH OF A ROAD. IT'S A STREET AT BEST RIGHT NOW. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE, YOU SEE A SHOWING OF IT. 
          NO SIDEWALKS , IT IS VERY NARROW. SO CONNECTING A CONNECTOR ROAD TO THIS SUBSTANDARD ROAD , WITHOUT REALLY SOLVING IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. IN ADDITION, SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $11 MILLION RIGHT AWAY , DEDICATION SPENT ON THIS COLLECTOR ROAD. AND NOTHING . SO LET'S TALK ABOUT U.S. 1 NORTH. THE 2030 TRANSPORTATION PLAN CALLS FOR A SECTIONING. IT SAYS IT WAS NEEDED IN 2000 15, IT IS UNFUNDED. THE MANAGEMENT PLAN SHOWS THAT IT IS 110% OVERCAPACITY. THE D.O.T. 
          CHANGED THE SERVICE PLANS ON THE ROAD. IF YOU TOOK THE SERVICE VOLUMES CAPACITIES THAT USED TO BE APPLICABLE TO U.S. 1 , YOU WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT OVER 6000 A DAY ON THIS FOUR LANE HIGHWAY. THE D.O.T. MADE A CHANGE AND FOR GOOD REASON. BUT WE STILL HAVE SOME WIGGLE ROOM. AND THE TIME IS NOW TO START GETTING READY . WE JUST GOT IT PAVED A NUMBER OF YEARS AHEAD , AND IT IS A GOING TO OCCUR IF WE ARE PROACTIVE ABOUT IT. 
          THERE'S NO FUNDING, THERE IS NO PLAN. THERE IS GOING TO BE REDEVELOPMENT , SOME OF THE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN VAATED . 
          IF WE HAD IT CONDUCTED ON U.S. 1 , IF WE KNEW WITH THE DRAINAGE NEEDS WERE, BEGIN WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF 
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TRANSPORTATION, CREATING A MOVEMENT TOWARD GETTING THE SYSTEM FIGURED OUT. WE THINK THOSE SERVICE STEPS OUGHT TO BE TAKEN IN APPROVAL FOR THE PROJECT FOR 60% OF THE INCOME THAT OCCURS U.S. 1. HERE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD ASK FOR YOU. WILL FULLY EVALUATE THE NEW COLLECTOR ROAD AND WILDWOOD ROAD AS A COLLECTOR. A COMMITMENT TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN U.S. 1 FOR THE STUDY. WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM? IMPACT FEES PLUS REVENUE CREATES OPPORTUNITIES. 
          IT'S WHERE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS OCCUR. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHERS LISTED. I WILL LET YOU READ THAT. I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF PICTURES. THESE ARE HOUSING AT AFFORDABLE PRICES. SO IF THERE IS A DELAY, YOU CAN CONTINUE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY. STILL IN PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. 
          >> I LOOK AT 580 RAVEN. I'M GOING TO USE THE BRIEFING FROM LAST MONTH . REZONING SHALL NOT BE APPROVED FOR THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC FLOW -- I'M SORRY, I AM DEAF . I CANNOT HEAR YOU WILL. NONE OF YOU WILL QUALIFY FOR THE $274,000 LOAN . THERE WAS A LADY LAST MONTH -- NEXT PAGE. IT'S IN THEIR PLAN THAT ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU DONE. THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT 990 DAILY TRIPS. THERE IS NO MENTION ON THAT PAGE OF THE CONNECTION TO THE WILDWOOD AROUND 207. ALL OF THESE PICTURES HERE SHOW TRAFFIC WILDWOOD COUNTY HIGHWAY 1, AND THAT OF THOSE MENTIONED TRAFFIC . PEOPLE WILL EXIT THE SUBDIVISION AND GO TO POST THAT. 
          HERE IS THE ONES THAT IS IMPORTANT. THIS IS THE PATH OF THE DEVELOPMENT. TALK ABOUT THE DITCH. IF YOU MAGNIFY THAT, THE DITCH AND BEHIND MY HOUSE. THE DRAINAGE OF WATSON RHODES FLOODING , YOU TAKE A TRIP TO GO OVER THERE WHEN IT RAINED, AND YOU WILL SEE BOTH OF THESE PRESENTATIONS SAY THEY ARE GOING TO CONNECT THE DITCH. WATSON ROAD, DOWN TO WHERE IT IS NOW BEHIND MY HOUSE, AND THE LADY FROM GOVERNESS PLANTATION , AND MY HOUSE RIGHT NOW, THE DITCH IS 15 FEET DEEP. THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED FOR A SURVEY OR SOME TYPE OF 
          PROPOSAL. >> THINK YOU, SIR. 
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          >> MY NAME IS JERRY WELK'S. SHE OWNS THAT LITTLE SEVEN ACRE PLOT. SHE WROTE A LETTER, AND SHE ASKED ME TO READ IT INTO THE MINUTES. DEAR ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. I OWN A TAX PARCEL AT 37250 -0000 THE LAST 37 YEARS. WITH THE HOPES OF ONE DAY BUILDING MY FOREVER HOME DURING MY RETIREMENT YEARS. THE PROBLEM IS, I DO NOT HAVE A LEGAL MEANS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS TO AN EXISTING PUBLIC COUNTY ROAD. THE ESTATE ABUTS MY PROPERTY ON TWO'S AND ALLOW ME ACCESS TO THE EXISTING DIRT ROADS AND PROMISED TO GIVE A RELABELED MEANS OF ACCESS. 
          THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ENCOMPASSES MY PROPERTY ON EACH SIDE, AND DEVELOPERS HAVE PROMISED TO PROVIDE INGRESS AND EGRESS AND PROPOSE THE EXTENSION OF WATSON ROAD. THE USE OF THE PAVED ROADWAYS PLANNED WITH SEATTLE LAKES DEVELOPMENT. I WANTED TO ATTEND THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT IT BROKE MY BACK AND I HAVE SURGERY NEXT WEEK. I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT IF THE CHANGE BE CONTINGENT ON THE DEVELOPMENT PROVIDING ME WITH ACCESS IN THE PREVIOUS PARAGRAPH. THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN ACCESS, IT IS GREAT. BUT THE LOCATION IS TO BE DETERMINED LATER. OSCEOLA LAKES PART OF THE PROPERTY ARE UNDERWATER. I WOULD ASK THAT IT BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH HER AND THAT SHE BE INVOLVED IN THE CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. OUR ROAD LIGHTS JUST ADJACENT TO OSCEOLA LAKES. I WAS HERE THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING IN OBJECTION TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND ASIDE FROM THOSE PUBLIC SPEAKERS, THE MAIN ARGUMENTS TO THIS AND BE -- WORKFORCE HOUSING. THERE ARE 30+ PROPERTIES -- EXCUSE ME, HOMES AND PROPERTIES. ACTUAL SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES, THERE ARE 30+ HOMES ON THEIR . THEY START AT 149,000 . THERE ARE THREE UNDER MY ROAD UNDER THAT PRICE. THERE ARE FOUR HOUSES AND 26 CONDOS . HALF OF THOSE LISTINGS HAVE HAD PRICE REDUCTIONS IN RECENT MONTHS BECAUSE OF THE HOUSING MARKET. 
          THAT'S NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT NEGOTIATED PRICE. WE HAVE TO PUT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALL OF THESE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF THE ARGUMENT FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING. IT'S A PRIMARY DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. BECAUSE OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING. I COME FROM THE WEST COAST. AND I KNOW THE DESPERATION OF TRYING TO FIND PROPERTY AS HOUSE PRICES GO UP. 
          THERE ARE LOTS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSES. THERE'S LOTS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT NEED TONS OF HIGH DENSITY. THANK YOU. 
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          >> I'M A LIFELONG ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENT. THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS A CRUCIAL STEP . THIS IS AN INITIATIVE THAT ENHANCES COMMUNITY SAFETY. AS ONE OF A SMALL FAMILY BUSINESS, HAVE SEEN THE NEED FOR THIS. BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. THIS DEVELOPMENT CONTRIBUTES TO THE OVERALL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENT. THE COUNTY DEMONSTRATES ITS COMMITMENT TO EQUITY. I URGE YOU TO VOTE FOR THE REZONING OF OSCEOLA LAKE AS IT PROMISES TO DEVELOPS ESSENTIAL BENEFITS. 
          THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I LIVE IN 133 NEPTUNE ROAD. I LIVED HERE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF 2013. 
          FROM THE VERY EARLY DAYS, I'VE BEEN ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS THROUGH SPECTRUM OF PROVISIONS FOR WORKFORCE AND FOR OTHER PAID EMPLOYEES WHO CAN'T AFFORD A HOUSE. WE NEEDED FOR THE SERVICE INDUSTRIES, FOR THE HOTELS, AND WE NEED RENTAL ACCOMMODATIONS. I'M LOOKING TO ADVOCATE FOR LOW-COST HOUSING AS WELL AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT I'VE ALSO ADVOCATED SINCE BEING HERE ON BEHALF OF THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT . I HOSTED AND FACILITATED TOWN HALL MEETINGS WITH THE LATE COMMISSIONER PAUL JONES WHERE WE HAD A LOT OF VISITATIONS ON THE PROPERTIES ON WATSON ROAD . WITH EVERY NEW PUD BEING DEVELOPED, CAUSING FLOODING FOR THE EXISTING HOUSES ON WATSON ROAD, AND I'VE ALSO HOSTED TOWN HALL MEETINGS ON THE NEED FOR PROTECTION OF TREES. I HAVE TO SAY, I WOULD ASK YOU TO DENY THIS ON THE BASIS THAT IT IS INAPPROPRIATE HIGH DENSITY ACCOMMODATION AND WHAT IS CURRENTLY A RURAL AREA, AND THAT WE NEED TO BE SMART ABOUT WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATION AND ACCOMMODATION FOR PEOPLE IN THE AREA THAT USED TO BELONG MAJOR ROUTES , POSSIBLY ON PARALLEL ROADS, THAT IS WHERE THE TRANSPORTATION IS. THAT'S WHERE THE ACCESS TO THE MAJORITY COMES FROM. AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS AN INAPPROPRIATE USE OF WORKFORCE HOUSING JUST AS AN EXCUSE TO PUT IN HIGH DENSITY HOUSING , WHICH IS NOT APPROPRIATE IN THIS AREA. I URGE YOU TO DENY THIS AND LOOK FOR OTHER WAYS TO FIND AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING IN A SMART WAY. WE NEED SMART GROWTH, NOT URBAN SPRAWL. THANK YOU. 
          >> HELLO, MY NAME IS ALEXIS KYLE. I OWN A SALON CALLED BOTTLE ONE SALON, AND I PLAN ON DOING A SECOND LOCATION IN ST. 
          JOHN'S COUNTY. BUT I'VE HEARD OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS SAY THAT THEY ARE HAVING TROUBLE HIRING PEOPLE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO LIVE. I ALSO WANT TO READ A LETTER THAT MY FATHER -- HE IS IN AFRICA DOING ANTITERRORISM TRAINING. DEAR BOARD MEMBERS . I AM WRITING TO EXPRESS MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE INITIATIVE TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OSCEOLA LAKES. AS A RETIRED ARMY VETERAN WHO SERVED IN THE FIRST SPECIAL FORCES GROUP, THE SECOND 75TH RANGER BATTALION , AND MY WIFE BEING A REGISTERED NURSE, WE ARE KEEN TO LIVE AND WORK IN AN AREA THAT OFFERS AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS. 
          SORRY. WE HAVE FOUND THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS AREA 
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IS EXTREMELY LIMITED, MAKING IT CHALLENGING FOR US TO REALIZE OUR DREAM OF MOVING CLOSER TO HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS. LET US SEIZE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT THOSE WHO SUPPORT US EVERY DAY . THANK YOU. 
          >> GOOD MORNING. I LIVE AT 4520 CARTER ROAD, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN WAS BRINGING UP THE TRAFFIC. LIKE WHEN YOU COME OFF FROM CARTER ROAD , IF YOU ARE MAKING A RIGHT, IT'S NOT TOO BAD. IF YOU ARE MAKING A LEFT, SOMETIMES WITH AN EXCESSIVE TIME. SOMETIMES YOU TAKE THE CHANCE AND YOU PULL OUT IN FRONT OF THEM FROM TRAFFIC. SO WHEN YOU PUT THAT CONNECTOR THERE, YOU AT ALL THAT EXTRA TRAFFIC. THAT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE THINGS ANY BETTER ON THE ROAD. THE SECOND PART THEY WANT TO BRING UP IS, THIS WORKFORCE HOUSING , ERIC, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE CONDOS THAT CAME UP IN DISCUSSION. I HAPPEN TO OWN SOME OF THOSE CONDOS. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING, THOSE CONDOS HAVE TROUBLE SELLING AT 125,000. TWO BEDROOM CONDOS. 1 1/2 BATHS. SO THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF HOUSING, WHY ARE PEOPLE NOT JUST GOBBLING THESE THINGS UP ? THERE ARE SOME AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. I WASN'T LOOKING TO GET INTO THE CONDO BUSINESS. I AM RETIRED. BUT SOME OF THOSE CONDOS CAME UP FROM PRICES THAT WERE CRAZY. SO I ENDED UP PURCHASING , I OWN 10 OF THEM NOW. IN EIGHT MONTHS, 10 UNITS, BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T SELL. IF WORKFORCE HOUSING IS AVAILABLE, I SO THESE PEOPLE CAME UP AND SAID, WE CAN'T FIND ANY HOUSING, WHY ARE PEOPLE BUYING THESE? IF YOU LOOK BACK ON THE TAX APPRAISER, PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THESE CONDOS FIVE, SEVEN YEARS AGO AT 80,000 OR SO AND SOLD THEM FOR 125. IT ISN'T LIKE YOU WERE BUYING THEM IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE PROPERTY VALUE IS GOING TO GO DOWN. WORKFORCE HOUSING IS NEEDED. 
          WHY ISN'T THIS WORKFORCE GOING IN AND BUYING THESE WHEN YOU CAN'T SELL CONDOS AT 125? I MEAN, IT'S ALL A SMOKESCREEN FOR SOMEBODY TO MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY DEVELOPING PROPERTY THAT SHOULD BE JUST LEFT ALONE. ALL THE ARTERIES ARE CLOGGED UP NOW. I MEAN, JUST LIKE WHEN THE PERSON TALKED ABOUT 207 , I GO THERE A LOT. YOU GO DOWN TO THE 207, IT DOES BACK OUT A LOT. IF YOU PUT THAT CONNECTOR IN, YOU USE THAT TO JUMP FROM ONE UP TO THE CONNECTOR DOWN TO WILDWOOD DOWN TO 207, THAT TRAFFIC AT 207 WILL BE A LOT HEAVIER THAN WHAT IT IS NOW. THERE'S UNITS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW . TELL THEM TO COME IN BY THEM. IN QUEUE. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD MEMBERS. I WAS GIVEN A LETTER BY A FIREFIGHTER WHO WANTED ME TO READ IT. AND IT SAYS DEAR BOARD MEMBERS, MY NAME IS COREY HOOKS. I WANT YOU TO VOTE YES TO REZONE OSCEOLA LAKES FOR HOUSING . AS A VETERAN OF JACKSONVILLE FIRE AND RESCUE, I LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE BENEFITS OF LIVING NEAR. I WAS HIRED IN 2015 AND MY FIRST ASSIGNMENT WAS NINE MINUTES FROM MY HOUSE. I'VE BEEN AT THAT STATION FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL STATION CHANGES. 
          STATION 27 . I AM ONE AND A HALF MILES IN FIVE MINUTES AWAY FROM MY HOUSE. MY STATION IS THE BUSIEST STATION IN THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT. THE LONGEST OF 2024. EVERY TIME I SEE SOMEONE AT TRAINING THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN IN A WHILE, THEY ASK IF I AM STILL AT 27. AND I SAY YES. THEY ARE SHOCKED. WITH MY SALARY, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO SELECT A NEW POSITION. I DON'T MIND THE WORK BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO PUT A PRICE ON BEING A 
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MILE AND A HALF FROM MY WORK LACE. IT'S A BENEFIT ON SO MANY LEVELS. IT MEANS I CAN GET A FEW MORE MINUTES OF SLEEP AND NOT WASTING TIME SITTING IN TRAFFIC. MY FAMILY DOESN'T HAVE TO TRAVEL TOO FAR . I CAN GO HOME AND SIGN PACKAGES AND GRAB PACKAGES FROM MY DOOR . DURING HURRICANES , I CAN CHECK ON MY HOUSE AND NOT DROP ON MY DUTY. IT IS EASIER TO LEARN WHEN YOU LIVE IN IT. THE BENEFITS OF TOO MANY TO NAME. TO STAY AT THE BUSIEST STATION OF THE DEPARTMENT . PLEASE VOTE YES SO THEY CAN REAP THE SAME BENEFIT AS I HAVE. 
          >> I AM JEFF OSBORNE. I AM HERE IN FAVOR OF OSCEOLA LAKE. I GREW UP IN PALM VALLEY AND DIDN'T KNOW -- DIDN'T TAKE TO THE GROCERY WELL. BUT I THINK SMART GROWTH IS IMPORTANT , AND I THINK THAT SOME OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING I THINK IS DEFINITELY NEEDED. YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE OPPOSE IT. AND WHAT IF SOMEBODY OPPOSED THEM WHEN THEY WENT TO BUY THEIR HOUSE? I JUST THINK THAT'S KIND OF HYPOCRITICAL. I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF IT, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON. ROBERT REGAN. IT IS PRETTY EASY TO GET OVERSHADOWED BY OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY HAD THEIR LIVES SET UP AND RETIRED AND HAVING THE DAY TO COME DOWN HERE TO GO AGAINST WHAT I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD STAND UP HERE FOR, WHICH IS MORE DEVELOPMENT IN FLORIDA. I RAN A SMALL BUSINESS, AND AS YOU HEARD FROM THE LAST CROWD, IT'S BEEN HARD TO RUN A BUSINESS. THINGS DON'T ALWAYS WORK OUT. IT IS NOT VERY EASY. EVERYTHING IS HALF $1 MILLION. THEY MAY NOT BE AS REALISTIC AS HE MAKES IT SOUND. YOU KNOW, I AM IN FIRE SCHOOL TRAINING ALL YEAR LONG. A YEAR OR TWO FROM NOW, BE ABLE TO MAKE THE MOVE DOWN HERE AND BE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY . 
          BETTER FOR THE SCHOOLS. I'VE GOT A KID ON THE WAY. I SPENT ABOUT $2500 A MONTH IN CHILD CARE. BEING IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. I GET IT. I GET WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM. IT'S KIND OF HYPOCRITICAL, BUT I READ THE BOOKS. FLORIDA HAS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THIS. EVER DEVELOPING, MAKING HOMES. AND ALL THESE PEOPLE LIVING IN HOUSES THAT ARE HALF $1 MILLION, IT IS KIND OF UNFAIR TO BE LIKE, OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO SHUT THIS DOWN . THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. 
          >> IT'S HARD TO GET UP IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS MARSHA PEACOCK. I LIVE IN DUVAL COUNTY, BUT I LIVE NEAR ST. 
          JOHNS COUNTY AND A BANK IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, A SHOP IN ST. 
          JOHN'S COUNTY, AND I GO TO DINNER EVERY WEEK IN SAINT JOE'S COUNTY. I HAVE A 21-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER WHO IS -- HAS SKIPPED THREE GRADES. SKIP TO GRADE AND MIDDLE SCHOOL, SKIPPED A GRADE IN HIGH SCHOOL, SKIPPED A GRADE IN COLLEGE AND GRADUATED AT 18 SUMMA LAUDE . SHE GOT A JOB AT THE HOSPITAL, AND AFTER SEVEN MONTHS, SHE SAVED UP ENOUGH MONEY AND STARTED TO LOOK FOR A PLACE TO LIVE, AND SHE'S LIKE, I CAN'T LIVE HERE. SHE'S NOT BACKED TO DUVAL COUNTY'S, AND YOU'VE LOST THE BRIGHTEST AND THE BEST. THAT'S WHEN HE CONTINUE 
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TO HAPPEN . SHE DOESN'T LIKE CONDO FEES, SHE DOESN'T WANT A FIXER-UPPER. SHE LIKE TO HAVE NICE LITTLE TOWNHOMES. THIS ONE CAUGHT MY ATTENTION SINCE IT'S BEEN LESS THAN FIVE MILES FROM THE HOSPITAL. I AM FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT AND I HOPE YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF IT, TO. 
          >> MY NAME IS NANCY RAWSON. I AM AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER AND HAVE BEEN FOR 26 YEARS, AND ACTUALLY SHARE A PROPERTY LINE. 
          I DO APPRECIATE THAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE GIVEN US A TAN FENCE INSTEAD OF AN UGLY WHITE FENCE. BUT I DO GENUINELY INCREASE THE BUFFER AND THE RESPONSE TO MEET OUR REQUEST. I DO TAKE ISSUE WITH THE COMMENT WE WERE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO MR. YOUNG. THE YOUNGS HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY GOOD NEIGHBORS. NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH THEM. HE AND HIS WIFE AND I FED THE DEER MUTUALLY , AND MY HEART REALLY BREAKS FOR HIM. WE ARE NOT HERE IN OPPOSITION TO HIM, WE ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          YOU'VE HEARD IT ALL. MR. GODFREY HAS GONE OVER TRAFFIC. 
          I WILL DEFER TO THAT. I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS COMPATIBLE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS NO WHITE NOISE POLLUTION RIGHT NOW. THE DENSITY HAS BEEN ADDRESSED AS WELL , AND INFRASTRUCTURE HAS NOT KEPT UP WITH IT, HENCE THE REASON WHY WE HAVE AN INCREASE FOR A TAX INCREASE IN THE BALLOT. WE KEEP APPROVING THE STUFF. FLOODING, WHICH HASN'T REALLY BEEN ADDRESSED, HAS INCREASED SINCE THE ADDITIONAL HARVESTING AND CLEARING OF THE LAND, AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT REPORTS THE SOILS ARE VERY POORLY TRAINED AND FLOODED FREQUENTLY. THE WILDLIFE, YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT ALL THE TIME. THERE IS A DEER IN MY NEIGHBOR'S YARD YESTERDAY MORNING. THERE WERE SIX TURKEYS IN MY BACKYARD THIS WARNING. IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO DESTROY THE ECOSYSTEM, AND EVERYBODY'S CURRENT FAVORITES, WORKFORCE HOUSING , AS PEOPLE HAVE ADDRESSED -- GOOGLE TOWNHOUSES INSANE AUGUST DEAN. MANY WILL COME UP THAT ARE AVAILABLE NOW. THIS HOUSING IS NOT AVAILABLE. THE GENTLEMAN WHO WISHES TO LIVE HERE AFTER THE FIRE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY HE WOULD NEED WOULD BE HALF OF WHAT ST. JOHN'S COMMUNITIES START AT. MY CONCERN -- I'M GOING TO RUN OUT OF TIME. THE OPTICS OF THIS PROGRAM HAVE BEEN VERY POOR. THERE'S BEEN EQUIPMENT, THE DEVELOPER SITS ON PCA, IS POLITICAL SCIENCE. 
          IT'S EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING AND DISHEARTENING TO SOMEONE LIKE ME WHO SUPPORTS YOU ALL AND DOESN'T LEAVE THE DEVELOPERS IN THIS COUNTY WANT TO HAVE THIS KIND OF PROJECT RECEIVED, WHICH HAS APPEARED TO ALL OF US THAT IT WAS A DONE DEAL FOR SOMETIME BEFORE IT EVEN WENT BEFORE PCA. I HOPE YOU WILL VOTE NO FOR THE EXPANSION OF OSCEOLA LAKES. WE DO SUPPORT WORKFORCE HOUSING. I HAVE TWO SAINT POLICE OFFICERS AND ST. 
          JOHN'S FIRE AND RESCUE ALREADY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE AT ALL. IT IS NOT AFFORDABLE, IT IS NOT RESPONSIBLE. THANK YOU. 
          >> 1005 BLACKBERRY LANE. I DO HAVE A SHORT POWERPOINT APPEAR. 
          THE QUESTION IS, SHOULD THESE BE APPROVED , AND CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING. SO THIS DEVELOPER DOES USE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN , AND YOU SEE THE CHART ON THE RIGHT THAT SAYS YOU CAN GO UP TO SIX UNITS PER ACRE. THEY ARE USING MAC PROPOSED 640 RESIDENTIAL HOMES WERE 192 OR WORKFORCE HOUSING. THE RESIDENCE CAN ALSO USE 11 1M , WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT FOOTNOTE, AND THERE IT IS. NOTHING IN THIS PROVISION SHALL BE CONSTRUED TO GUARANTEE THE MAXIMUM DENSITY FOR ANY SPECIFIC PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. DENSITY SHALL BE DETERMINED ON A SITE-SPECIFIC BASIS CONSIDERING INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT INCLUDING INFRASTRUCTURE , WHICH MAY LIMIT DENSITY APPROPRIATE TO THE SITE. SO INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR OWN COUNTY TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS IDENTIFIED FOUR ROADWAY SEGMENTS THAT ARE ADVERSELY IMPACTED. THAT IS HER TERMINOLOGY. ADVERSELY IMPACTED. AND THEY GIVE US THE DATA RIGHT HERE. THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICES SHOWN ON THE 
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LEFT THERE ARE ANYWHERE FROM 111 TO .1% DOWN TO 79.6% ON WILDWOOD. LOOK TO THE RIGHT. IF THIS PROJECT IS APPROVED, THOSE LEVELS OF SERVICE WILL INCREASE UP TO 117% ON U.S. 1 AND EVEN UP TO ALMOST 96% ON WILDWOOD. SO IF INFRASTRUCTURE CAN BE CONSIDERED, THEN COMPATIBILITY COMES INTO THE PICTURE. AND AGAIN, OUR RESIDENTS CAN USE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN A1311 , WHICH SAYS THAT REZONING SHALL NOT BE APPROVED IF TRAFFIC FLOW IS UNREASONABLE AND THERE IS AN UNREASONABLE IMPACT ON CONTINUOUS AND SURROUNDING AREAS. IT'S OUR OWN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT THAT HAS SEEN THIS. WE TAKE THAT IS COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT PERHAPS THIS PROJECT SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED. SO THE QUESTION WAS, SHOULD ADVERSE IMPACT APPROVED? CLEARLY, THIS PROJECT DOES CAUSE ADVERSE IMPACTS. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS TO LEAVE YOU WITH IS, WILL YOU AS COUNTY COMMISSIONER , APPROVE ADVERSE IMPACT ON OUR ROADS? THANK YOU. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON. THAT IS IN THE CORONADO NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT'S PART OF WILDWOOD DRIVE. I DON'T HAVE AN EMOTIONAL STORY FOR YOU GUYS. WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF GREAT THINGS FROM A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE. I AM CURIOUS -- OF ALL THE BUSINESSES THIS YEAR, HOW MANY OF YOU PAY $42 AN HOUR? OKAY. TO PURCHASE ONE OF THESE HOMES IN OSCEOLA LAKES, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A MINIMUM SALARY OF $98,000 TO JUST PURCHASE ONE OF THESE HOMES. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT THE AVERAGE DOLLAR PER HOUR IS $24 PER HOUR. SO YOU HAVE THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WORKFORCE HOUSING, THIS MAY BE HOUSING FOR THE WORKFORCE, BUT OUR MILITARY, OUR NURSES MAYBE, TEACHERS AND WHATNOT DON'T MAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY FOR THAT KIND OF WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          FOR THE WORKFORCE TO OPERATE UNDERNEATH THAT GUYS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. I APPRECIATE IT. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I LIVE AT YOUR CHASE DRIVE. BORN AND RAISED HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY . I LIVE OFF OF WILDWOOD DRIVE, THAT YOUR CHASE AREA. I COME TODAY BECAUSE I AM WORKFORCE. HIRED BY SHERIFF NEIL J PERRY, AND I WORKED FOR 26 YEARS. I LIVED IN A TRAILER. I ACTUALLY TOOK OUT THE TRASH FOR THE EIGHT TRAILERS IN THE MOBILE HOME PARK. I BUILT MY WAY UP. I DO LIVE NEXT TO A POLICE OFFICER, SCHOOL TEACHERS, A FIREMAN JUST ACROSS THE STREET, AND I LOVE MY COMMUNITY. THOSE WERE CRITICAL AND AGAINST WORKFORCE, WE ARE REALLY NOT. THEY CAN AFFORD THIS. THEY CANNOT AFFORD THIS. 
          MY BOSS WAS ASKED TO COME SPEAK TODAY , THERMOPLASTIC ROAD MARGINS. TO COME SHARE, HEY, ABSOLUTELY. BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER FOR THEM. THE 50 EMPLOYEES CAN'T AFFORD THESE HOUND. I TOOK HIS SPOT TODAY. THERE ARE HOMES DOWN WILDWOOD. 
          SOMEONE SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY STOPS AT 5:00. I SAW SCHOOLCHILDREN, BUS STOPS, 15 DEVELOPMENTS ON WILDWOOD DRIVE , 15 DEVELOPMENTS, SO I AM ABSOLUTELY AGAINST SHUTTING 
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THIS DOWN . IN THE NAME OF WORKFORCE. THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE AND IT WILDWOOD DRIVE, THERE'S TOWNHOMES UP FOR SALE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE TO GET THESE PEOPLE , BUT I DROVE ON THE SIDE OF THE RAILWAY TRACKS. 
          THEY HAVE THE TRACKS BLOCKED AT WATSON ROAD AND WE TOOK FIRE AND RESCUE DOWN THE SIDE. IT TOOK ME THREE MINUTES TO GET DOWN THERE TO SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE. THAT'S HOW WE DID IT IN THE PAST. SO I WOULD AGAIN ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS . THINK OF THE TRAFFIC AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE. THEY SHOULD BUILD OTHER HOMES IN THEIR WORKFORCE AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO THAT COMMUNITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          >> GREG SIEBERT . COASTAL HIGHWAY. I'VE LIVED HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY 68 YEARS. AND AS FAR AS WORKFORCE HOUSING, I STAYED HERE MAINLY BECAUSE OF OUR KIDS. WE'VE HAD KIDS THAT GREW UP HERE, GO TO SCHOOL, GO TO WORK , GET MARRIED, WHATEVER. AND I CAN'T EVEN AFFORD TO PAY $500,000 FOR A HOUSE. PEOPLE MOVING INTO THIS COUNTY, THEY CAN'T. THE KIDS CAN'T. SO THEY'VE GOT TO MOVE OUT OF HERE OR GO SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY CAN AFFORD A HOUSE. WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING FOR THE LOCAL PEOPLE THAT ARE BORN HERE. THANK YOU. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON. DOUG MCKINNON . I AM HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER WHO IS DEVELOPING THIS. I HAVE KNOWN HIM FOR 10 YEARS. HE APPROACHED ME PROBABLY FIVE YEARS AGO WITH THIS VISION TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I TRAINED LAW ENFORCEMENT, I WAS LAW ENFORCEMENT. I WAS MILITARY. MY MOM WAS A FIREMAN, MY DAD WAS A NURSE. WE GREW UP NOT BEING ABLE TO LIVE WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE LIVED, EVEN THOUGH MY MOM WAS A NURSE. BUT TODAY, NURSES -- BECAUSE THEY ARE IN SHORTAGE AND IN HIGH DEMAND, THEY CAN'T AFFORD A HALF MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE. MY SON HAS A QUARTER MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE. HE GOT OUT OF THE MILITARY AS A CAPTAIN, AND HE IS A SINGLE INCOME FAMILY WORKING AND HELPING LAW ENFORCEMENT NOW, AND HE CAN AFFORD IT TO CERTAIN GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS TO HELP AND GET A GOOD LOAN RATE, A GOOD INTEREST RATE. AND HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO. BUT I'VE KNOWN THE DEVELOPER FOR 10 YEARS, AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE TRAINED LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND I'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WHERE PEOPLE WANTED TO WORK IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WERE GOOD PEOPLE, WHO WANTED TO WORK FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. BUT THEY CAN'T AFFORD HOUSING. THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT. AND SO FOR THOSE KIND OF CORPORATIONS THAT ARE DOWN THERE, AND FOR NURSES AND PEOPLE -- I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULDN'T WANT LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE, NURSES IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. MAKE THEM DENSE AND PUT THEM THERE. I DON'T CARE. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME COME SPEAK TO YOU. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH ME IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. I APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU SPENT WITH ME DISCUSSING THIS PROJECT. A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTION ABOUT NUMBERS. HOW MUCH DOES SOMEONE NEED TO AFFORD THIS? TO GO TO A MORTGAGE CALCULATION -- 
          >> YOU GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? 
          >> I'M SORRY. MORE TO THE MIDDLE. MY APOLOGIES. THESE ARE THE CALCULATIONS FOR $267,000 HOME. INTEREST RATE, 7.125. 
          MODERATE CREDIT RATING , $2400 A MONTH. DOES NOT INCLUDE HOAS, 
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DOES NOT INCLUDE CDD'S. SO BY NATIONAL STANDARDS, 28% IS WHAT YOU NEED. 28% OF YOUR MONTHLY INCOME . WE DO NOT PAY OUR WORKFORCE THAT. I WAS LISTENING TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE, THE BUSINESS OWNERS. IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY DID. ALL RIGHT. 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT FACTS. NUMBER ONE , FACT, THE HIGH SCHOOL HAS ZERO CAPACITY. NONE. THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF GIVING IT ANYMORE CAPACITY NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY THEY PUT TOWARDS IT. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE NO EXPANSION FOR PEDRO MENENDEZ HIGH SCHOOL. THEY MAKE PLANS TO EXPAND ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL. NUMBER TWO, THE NEW DRAINAGE FROM OSCEOLA LAKES WILL HEAD TO CORONADO TO THE NORTH. NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO TO MITIGATE IT, IT'S GOING TO BE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES, DRIVING INTO A DRAINAGE DITCH. AND THEN A RIGHT TO CORONADO. FURTHER REPORT, THE TRAFFIC WILL BE MOST DRAMATIC. IT MAY DECREASE AT THE ORIGINAL POINT. THEY SAID THAT PROBLEM IS GOING TO DECREASE AND INSTEAD IT'S GOING TO INCREASE. THE ONLY PART OF U.S. 1 THEY REPORTED ON WAS BETWEEN WILDWOOD DRIVE AND WATCH THEM. U.S. 1 NORTH , DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT. CAN THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT EVEN BE PUT THERE? TO SEE IF THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS CAN BE PUT THAT CLOSE TO THE ZONING DRIVEWAYS. AND FINALLY, THE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING AREAS. WE APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT ANYONE OF THOSE DUPLEXES . 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON. CHARLIE HUNT. LET'S LOOK AT SOME HARD FACTS HERE. AS I SAT AND LISTENED, I FEEL I NEEDED TO GET A MORE DETAILED MAP. HERE IS THE PUD THAT WAS APPROVED A FEW MONTHS AGO. 110 HOUSES RIGHT THERE. IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT THE TRAFFIC ON U.S. 1? WHO KNOWS. UP IN THE NORTHERN PART, HERE'S FRANKOFF CHARTER SCHOOL. ONE OF THE MEGA CHARTER SCHOOL COMPANIES FOR 1000 STUDENTS, AND BACK WHEN THEY WERE PRESENTING IT, THEY SHOWED THE QUEUE OF THREE OR FOUR LINES AROUND THE SCHOOL , BUT IT WOULD ALL JUST DUMP OUT TO BREAK OFF. THEY WERE THE ONES WHO PUT IN $300,000 IF YOU APPROVED THEM TO GET A LINE UP THERE , OKAY? AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, THIS RIGHT HERE, THIS IS UPCOMING PLANS RIGHT THERE FOR 3400 HOUSES. LET'S GET BACK TO THE AGENDA. 
          WORKFORCE HOUSING IS DEFINED AS THOSE HOMES COMPATIBLE WITH PURCHASING HOMES WITHIN THE UPPER /LOWER AND LOWER/MODERATE INCOME CATEGORIES. THIS IS ON THE AGENDA, THE 250 PAGE AGENDA. UPPER LOW TO LOW MEDIUM MODERATE . AND THAT IS THE FEDERAL HOUSING AUTHORITY. WITH THIS IS BASED TO HUNDRED $50,000, AND YES, THE INCREASE COULD BE AN ANNUAL INCREASE BASED UPON THE COST -- THE CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX WHICH JUST JULY 1ST WAS 2.97. THAT JACK STOOD UP TO 267,000. THE BASE PRODUCT IS MOVED UP. AND THAT CAN HAPPEN EACH YEAR. AND WITH THAT, IF YOU BOUGHT A HOUSE, YOU ALWAYS HAD THOSE IN COST AT THE END OF THE CONSTRUCTION. OR WERE YOU GO TO PAY OFF YOUR CONSTRUCTION FEES. THAT COULD RAISE IT UP AN ADDITIONAL $7000 FOR ALL THE CLOSING FEES, WHATEVER. SO ACTUALLY, THESE TOWNHOMES CAN GET UP TO $274,000 . AND IF YOU PUT 192 OF THOSE OUT THERE, THAT IS OVER $52 MILLION. AND 
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THAT IS FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD THIS. BECAUSE THE PROPOSAL TO REZONE THE WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE AREA, THAT SHOULD BE SERVED AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR 1ST RESPONDERS, NURSES, AND EVERYTHING. IS THIS AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING? THESE WORDS ARE JUST THROWN AROUND FOR THE MONEY. THANK YOU. 
          >> YOU WILL GET PAID TO LISTEN TO THIS STUFF. MY NAME IS JOE WILCOX, I LIVE AT 401 IRON RUN CIRCLE, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THIS PROJECT. ALL MY FRIENDS HAVE BEEN UP HERE AND I'M UP HERE NOW. I AM NOT AGAINST WORKFORCE HOUSING. I HAVE NINE CHILDREN IN THIS COUNTY AND 11 GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN. WE ARE NOT AGAINST WORKFORCE HOUSING. ALL OF US WORK. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS DENSITY. WE GOT MORE CARS AND TRUCKS ON THE ROAD THAN WE CAN COUNT. WE CAN'T BUILD SCHOOLS . WE DON'T AGAINST WORKFORCE HOUSING. I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH THIS APPLICATION. ONE OF THE APPLICANTS IS A BLIND TRUST. A BLIND TRUST. WHO IS SO IN FEAR OF THE LORD AND THE PEOPLE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY THAT HE DON'T WANT HIS NAME KNOWN? AND HE'S ONE OF THE APPLICANTS ON THIS WORKFORCE HOUSING. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, AND I HOPE YOU DO, TOO. THE ZONE AND BOARD APPROVED THEIR THING 3-2. THEY COME WITHIN 1 OF TURNING IT DOWN. SO I'M ASKING YOU, PLEASE , ZONING ORDINANCE SAYS YOU SHOULD -- THE ZONING SHOULD PROVIDE FOR ORDINARY DEVELOPMENTS. THIS IS NOT ORDERLY TO ANYTHING AROUND IT. 
          OUR COMPREHENSIVE LAND-USE PLANS , LAND-USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS TWO UNITS PER ACRE. THERE ARE SIX OR SEVEN UNITS PER ACRE. IF YOU TAKE OUT THE LITTLE BIT OF LAND THAT THEY HAVE FOR SOME RECREATION AND PARKING SPACES , THEY ARE GETTING AROUND 10 UNITS PER ACRE OF DEVELOPABLE LAND. SO PLEASE, DENSITY IS KILLING ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. PLEASE TURN THIS DOWN. PLEASE. I AM TIRED. 
          >> HOWDY, COMMISSIONERS. I LIVE IN CORONADO. IF YOU WOULD APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOUR BEVERAGES IN THE BACK, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I'VE EVER BEEN TO A COUNTY MEETING. I WENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. I'VE BEEN HERE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND ANY OF THIS. I LIVE OFF WILDWOOD ROAD. AND I THINK WITH THE PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO TELL YOU FOR PLANNING AND ZONING, TO TRY TO TELL YOU NOW, NOTHING TO DO WITH HOUSING, IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH TRAFFIC. TRAFFIC IS KILLING US OVER THERE. IT'S TAKING US THREE MINUTES JUST TO TAKE A LEFT TURN ON WILDWOOD. 
          MY KID GOES TO MENENDEZ. USED TO GO TO ROGERS, HE WENT TO MASON. IT TAKES ABOUT 15 MINUTES SOME DAYS TO GET I-95 TO GO DO ANYTHING. WHO CARES ABOUT THE HOUSING. YOU CAN BUILD HOUSES, JUST NOT HERE. IT'S A RIDICULOUS SPOT TO PUT 650 HOMES. THIS ING TO BRING UP UP WHILE I WAS SITTING IN THE 
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BACK. I CAME BY SEVEN TO 10 MINUTES AFTER SHE WAS KILLED ON HER BIKE. THAT IS TOO NARROW NOW. THE KIDS THAT GO TO GAMBLE HAVE TO BE THERE BEFORE DAWN. I SEE THEM THERE BEFORE WE GO TO THE GYM. THEY'RE SITTING ON THE THING THAT STOPS THE CAR FROM GOING INTO DITCHES. I'M SITTING OUT THERE IN THE DARK. 
          AS A BIKE LANE, AND THEN THERE'S THE OTHER LANE WHERE THE KIDS ARE SITTING OUT THERE. AGAIN, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOUSING AND HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH HOUSING AND VEHICLES. HE COULD BARELY SUPPORT WHAT IT HAS NOW. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN DOWN WATSON ROAD, WATSON IS A SIDE STREET. 
          IT CAN HANDLE THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. 
          RESIDENTIAL A, RESIDENTIAL B , SOMETHING LIKE THAT. CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HANDLE , BUT NOT THIS. THIS IS INSANE. WE HAVE SO MUCH VACANT LAND IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. IF YOU THINK ABOUT 206, U.S. 1, THE LAND AROUND THEIR. EVERYTHING WEST OF 95, HASTINGS. SORRY, I AM -- INCIDENTALLY , A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T BE HERE. I AM TAKING VACATION TIME. PLEASE RESPECT THOSE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T BE HERE , BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE HOUSING. PLEASE LISTEN. THANK YOU. 
          >> AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. I AM PRESIDENT OF THE HLA FOR THE SUBDIVISION AT WATSON ROAD. I SECOND THE RECOMMENDATION FOR ADULT BEVERAGES IN THE BACK. 
          I AM HERE TO ASK ABOUT THE OSCEOLA LAKES PROJECT AND CONSIDER AN ALTERNATE PROPOSAL. AND THE PROPOSAL DEALS WITH THE EXTENSION OF WATSON ROAD. WATSON ROAD IS A SLEEPY LITTLE COUNTRY LANE FAR MORE RESEMBLING THIS THAN THE THOROUGHFARE. ITS NARROWEST POINT JUST WEST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, IT IS 17 FEET WIDE. AND TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE WITH SOME OF THE TRUCKS THAT ARE GOING DOWN THAT ROAD, YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO GO OFF INTO THE SHOULDER TO LET THOSE CARS PASS. AND SO IT IS JUST NOT THE KIND OF ROAD THAT IS BUILT FOR ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC. IT IS ONLY 8/10 OF A MILE LONG. THERE ARE EIGHT STREETS AND THAT 8/10 OF A MILE. IF THREE OR FOUR SUBDIVISIONS. THEY STOP IN THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON TO LET KIDS OFF. IT IS ZONED AS A RESIDENTIAL 25-MILE-PER-HOUR ROAD. IN COMPARISON, WILDWOOD IS MUCH WIDER. IT HAS LANE MARKINGS, IT HAS A SHOULDER ON EACH SIDE AND A SPEED LIMIT. 
          AND TO TRY TO SIPHON TRAFFIC OFF OF WILDWOOD ONTO WHAT AND ROAD, I THINK IS JUST VERY DANGEROUS. ONE OF THE PRECEDENTS THAT WAS SET OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WAS WHEN THERE WAS CONSIDERATION FOR ADDITIONAL SUBDIVISIONS OFF THE ROAD, THAT INTERSECTION AT WATSON ROAD BRINGS IT INTO FOCUS. ONE OF YOUR OWN COMMISSIONERS, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, EVEN RECOMMENDED THAT THE SUBDIVISION BE SCUTTLED BECAUSE THAT INTERSECTION , IF YOU LOOK AT THE INJURIES AND ACCIDENTS IN THE LAST 10 YEARS AS A HOTSPOT. 
          THERE IS NOT EVER BEEN A SATISFACTORY SOLUTION FOR UPGRADING THAT INTERSECTION TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR MORE TRAFFIC. 
          OUR PROPOSAL IS SIMPLY THAT YOU GO AHEAD AND AGREE WITH THE OSCEOLA PROJECT, BUT THAT IT BE A DEAD-END STREET AND THAT HE NOT PUSH THROUGH AND EXTEND WATSON ROAD. THE MAIN CONCERN IS SAFETY. I THINK WE ARE TRYING TO PUT A SQUARE PEG IN A 
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ROUND HOLE. THANK YOU. 
          >> A KIND OF REMINDS ME OF THE 1976 WHERE MY BOSS, JIM SASSER, CALLED A BLIND TRUST WITH 2020 VISION. HOW IN THE HECK DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS NOT EVEN IDENTIFIED A BLIND TRUST COME HERE BEFORE YOU AND ASKING FOR GOVERNMENT FAVORS ? THEY ARE ASKING FOR GOVERNMENT FAVORS THROUGH A MEMBER OF THE PCA WHO RECUSED HIMSELF, BUT HE STEPS DOWN AND MAKES PRESENTATIONS FOR PROJECTS. IT'S WRONG. THERE ARE 33 NEIGHBORHOODS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. 33 WITH EXCESSIVE PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF POOR PLANNING. MY MOM HAD A SIGN IN HER OFFICE THAT SAID POOR PLANNING ON YOUR PART DOES NOT MAKE AN EMERGENCY ON MY PERIOD WHY IS THIS YEAR? WHY IS THIS PROPOSAL HERE? THEY ARE IN A HURRY BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THE NEW COMMISSIONERS TO GET OFFICE. I AGREE WITH RUTH HOPE . I AGREE WITH NANCY RAWSON AND WOODCOCK'S AND THE OTHER WITNESSES THAT THIS REMINDS ME OF A VERY, VERY BAD PROJECT THAT ONCE WAS PRESENTED IN WILLIAMSBURG VIRGINIA. AND MY FRIEND AND LATE FORMER CLIENT, SPECIAL AGENT ROBERT TYNDALL , A ROGUE INVESTIGATOR FOR AGENCIES, HE STOPPED ONE JUST LIKE THIS FOR COUNTY ROADS OUTSIDE WILLIAMS FOR. THERE WAS NO TRANSIT. HOW DO YOU HAVE WORKFORCE HOUSING WITHOUT TRANSIT? WE DON'T HAVE A WORKING TRANSIT SYSTEM IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. NY IN THE HECK , AGAIN, ARE WE HAVING A ZONING MEETING WITHOUT SWEARING AND THE WITNESSES? THIS IS AN ADVERSARIAL HEARING. ONE OR TWO OF YOU MIGHT'VE EVEN STUDIED THE STRAIT OF LAW. THE COUNCIL HERE IS ALLOWING YOU TO HEAR WITNESSES THAT AREN'T EVEN SWORN IN. I WOULD LOVE TO CROSS-EXAMINE THE APPLICANT WHO PCA CHAIR HARBORS BIGOTRY IN HIS HEART. I REREAD REPRINTED ON THE BLOG THIS AFTERNOON MR. TRAN ONCE VERY BAD BEHAVIOR . 
          HE'S KIND OF GOT A SWEETHEART RELATIONSHIP WITH MR. LANG. 
          BECAUSE WHEN I POINTED OUT THAT HE HAD BIGOTED , MR. MATTAVINO PROCEEDED TO RULE ON WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS NOT A HATE LATER. 
          HE SHOULD BE RECUSING HIMSELF FROM THIS CASE. YOU SHOULD SWEAR IN WITNESSES FROM THIS DAY FORWARD. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, CLAY MURPHY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JUST A FEW MONTHS MINUTES . A TOUGH CALL FOR YOU GUYS THAT WOULD MAKE ME QUESTION THE SANITY OF ANYONE WHO WOULD WANT THIS JOB. 
          THERE'S TWO OF THE WAYS THAT YOU CAN EVALUATE THIS CHANGE REQUEST. ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE , AND COMPATIBILITY. I THINK IT HAS BEEN SHOWN THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS, AND IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS A COMPONENT IN THIS PROJECT THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER COMPATIBLE, BUT THE REST OF IT IS NOT. YOUR PLANNING FROM THE PAST HAS PUT US IN THIS MESS. WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH A PROJECT LIKE THIS UNTIL -- IT IS UNFORTUNATE, BECAUSE PROJECTS LIKE THIS ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED. BUT THE CHALLENGE WE FACE IS ROTE. A GOOD PROJECT LIKE THIS THAT SHOULD BE DENIED. IT JUST UNDERSCORES THE NEED TO PRIORITIZE THE INFRASTRUCTURE GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          >> YES, MY NAME IS JUDY SPIEGEL, AND I LIVE AT 101 REGAL LANE. THIS IS JUST REALLY INTERESTING THAT THERE ARE SUCH OPPOSING VIEWS ON THIS PROJECT, AND SEVERAL THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO PRESENT I AM NOT GOING TO KNOW BECAUSE THEY WERE ADDRESSED. ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO DISCUSS IS THAT THERE 
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IS NO DENYING THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NEEDED. WE HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, IT IS TRUE. OUR WORKERS, I BELIEVE, ARE THE FUNCTIONING PART OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, AND INFRASTRUCTURE IS A UNCIAL. IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT WE MAKE MOVES TO SUPPORT THAT. WE HAVE A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE HAVE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN OUR CODE. WE CANNOT BE ARBITRARY WITH THOSE NUMBERS. IT IS NOT THE BEST PLAN, I UNDERSTAND WHO CAN AFFORD THIS. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE PARAMETERS THAT OUR COUNTY HAS VOTED TO WORK UNDER. THE VIEW OF SINGLE-FAMILY, LOW-DENSITY NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREA DOES INCLUDE ANNUAL WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE LIKE THE WAY THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE. THE MORE I AM LEARNING IS BEING ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS THE APPROACHES TO HOUSING AND WHY IT CREATES THIS PROBLEM IF THERE ARE PROJECTS AVAILABLE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS . PLUMBING, ELECTRICITY, SEWAGE, THAT ARE NOT AVAILABLE IN THE COUNTY AREAS THAT WE HAVE DESIGNATED. THIS IS JUST FROM INVENTORY THAT WE HAVE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE COUNTY. YOU CAN SEE IN THE PEAK, THOSE ARE THE TWO SPOTS OR WE HAVE ALMOST ALL OF THE INVENTORY. THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. THERE'S NO SEWAGE, NO DRAINAGE, NO ELECTRICITY. AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BUILD IN THOSE AREAS. SO PART OF OUR CODE IS THE STANDARD FOR APPROVAL IN LDC 511. IT SAYS THE PCA AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WILL USE THE STANDARDS FOR APPROVAL. I'M NOT GOING TO REVIEW THEM ALL, BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE 50 SECONDS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THIS APPLICANT HAS MET ALL OF THESE CRITERIA. AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC GOES, I AGREE. I LIVE OFF OF WATSON ROAD. THIS IS DEFINITELY GOING TO IMPACT ME. I AGREE THE TRAFFIC IS BAD. BUT I THINK THAT THE BENEFITS OF THIS PROJECT OUTWEIGH THE PROBLEMS. I WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT I DIDN'T SEE THE BEAUTIFUL WAY THAT THEY DESIGNED THIS PROJECT. IT'S A GOOD PLAN. IT IS WELL-SUITED TO THE AREA. THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE CONTOURS, THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE WETLANDS, AND I WANT TO SAY, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO MAKE A DECISION THAT BENEFITS SMALL BUSINESS, AND YOU JUST SAID THAT A BAD THE THING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DO SOMETHING. WOULD YOU HAVE WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THIS COUNTY. 
          >> AND TAYLOR . I LOVE THE GENTLEMAN'S QUOTE EARLIER. 
          DENSITY IS KILLING ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. 
          >> YES. AND SINCE I HAVE BEEN RUNNING FOR OFFICE, I DEFTLY HAVE HAD GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO MEET SO MANY RESIDENTS. AND THIS IS A BIG CONCERN OF THEIRS. THE STAFF FOUND THAT ROADS ARE ALREADY DEFICIENT AND THIS WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THEM. I ALSO WANT TO APPLAUD JOE. I THOUGHT HIS REPORT WAS VERY DETAILED AND EXCELLENT AS WELL. WE CLEARLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ROADS IN THIS AREA. IT WILL MAKE THE PROBLEM EVEN WORSE. THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE NOW. THANK YOU. 
          >> HELLO, MY NAME IS MARK EVANS. IT'S ACTUALLY THE FIRST MEETING I'VE EVER SAT IN. THE FIRST MEETING THAT CAME TO BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND YOU GOT TO HAVE GROWTH. A BUSINESS HAS TO HAVE GROWTH , A COUNTY HAS TO HAVE GROWTH, WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS, THIS JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. COMMON SENSE IS THE ONE THING THAT IS GUIDED ME THROUGH THIS. PULLING OUT ON THE ROAD , HANGING OUT ON THE ROAD, NOT EVEN AGAINST AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I HAVE A NURSE WHO LIVES RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM ME. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS A PROBLEM. I THINK 
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THE TRAFFIC FLOW , LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID, TRAFFIC DENSITY IS AN ISSUE. IF ANYBODY SHOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT THIS PROJECT, IT SHOULD BE ME. EVERY HOUSE HAS TWO TO THREE CARS. 650 HOMES. 
          YOU JUST DON'T SEE IT. IT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. 
          >> I LEAVE IN 1520 PALM VALLEY ROAD. I'M A TITLE AGENT. I WORK CLOSELY WITH MANY FAMILIES AND YOUNG PEOPLE FROM ST. 
          JOHN'S COUNTY WHO OWE DREAM OF OWNING THEIR OWN FOAM. I'VE SEEN MANY OF THEM HAVING TO WALK AWAY FROM THE PROCESS BECAUSE OF THE COST OF EARNING A HOME. THIS IS ABOUT CREATING FOUNDATIONS FOR TOMORROW AND FOR THE NEXT GENERATION WHO CAN AFFORD AND RAISE THEIR FAMILIES IN A COMMUNITY THEY LOVE. I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF GROWTH AND PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS LIKE ME WHO DREAM AND WORK HARD . IT SOMETIMES FEELS LIKE IT'S OUT OF RANGE. 
          >> SUZANNE, 101 . I HOPE WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY DOESN'T FEEL LIKE ME COMING AT YOU. I LISTENED TO IT EVERYBODY SAID AND I TRIED TO PICK OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE. I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. I LIVE BASICALLY AT WATSON ROAD AND U.S. 1. I GET IT. I WILL SAY THAT I AM LESS CONCERNED ABOUT VOLUME OF TRAFFIC THAN I AM ABOUT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC. AND I DO FEEL THAT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC HAS SEEN SOME IMPROVEMENT IN THAT AREA IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND I THINK THAT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC, ONCE WE GET THE SIGNAL AT BRINKOFF ROAD ON 207 WILL HELP A LOT. I ALSO THINK THAT ADDING A SIGNAL ALONG WILDWOOD DRIVE WOULD HELP WITH WHAT THEY CALLED THE TRAFFIC WORLD PLATOON WITH TRAFFIC SO THAT THERE IS A BREAK SO PEOPLE CAN GET OUT A LITTLE BETTER, AND THAT TURN LANE AT WATSON ROAD AND U.S. 1, IF WE DON'T GET IT FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET IT. WE DO NOT GET A LOT OF MONEY THROWN AT THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY ROADS. WE JUST DON'T. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF BUILDING DOWN THERE LIKE THERE IS IN THE NORTHWEST. AND IMPACT FEES ARE ALLOCATED BY DISTRICT. SO IF WE WANT THAT IMPROVEMENT THERE, THIS GETS TURNED DOWN TODAY , DON'T COUNT ON IT. AND DON'T COUNT ON MUCH OF ANYTHING HAPPENING THERE, EITHER. I WANT TO BRING OUT THAT ACCORDING TO THE CENSUS BUREAU, MORE THAN 7700 COMMUTER CARS COME INTO OUR COUNTY TO WORK. THEY ARE COMING INTO OUR COUNTY FROM PUTNAM COUNTY , FLAGLER COUNTY, AND SOME AS FAR AS VOLUSIA COUNTY, BECAUSE IT CANNOT AFFORD A HOME HERE. BUT THEY WERE HERE. MOSTLY, THOSE COMING FROM THAT AREA WORK IN -- LET'S SAY 16 SOUTH. THOSE CARS ARE ALREADY HERE, AND ALREADY DRIVING ON ROADS. THEY COME UP HERE FOR WORK. MANY OF THEM SHOP AT THE STORE BEFORE THEY GO HOME. SO I THINK YOU GOT TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING IS NEEDED, AND I'M HOPING THAT YOU ALL WILL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION TODAY. THANK YOU. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON. DORIS TAYLOR. THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF TIMES THAT I'VE SAT HERE AND LISTENED TO A PROPOSAL WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME AND SPOKE AND GAVE YOU SOLID 
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REASONS , SHOWED YOU THE RESEARCH , WERE VERY CONVINCING, AND THEN THIS BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS VOTED TO DO IT ANYWAYS. AND SOMETIMES, I HAVE EVEN HEARD THAT REFERRED TO AS THE GLAMOUR OF THE CROWD. WHAT YOU JUST HEARD WAS NOT THE CLAMOR OF THE CROWD. WHAT YOU JUST HEARD IS A LOT OF REALLY GOOD REASONS TO SAY NO TO THIS. PLEASE SAY NO TO THIS. PLEASE LISTEN TO US. AND ONE OF THE THINGS, TO , THERE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE TROUBLE ON WHERE THE COMMISSIONERS ARE DETERMINING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRUTH AND LIES. YOU KNOW, IT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER IN THE MEETING TODAY ABOUT PEOPLE THAT WERE ATTACKED WITH LIES, AND THE RESPONSE WAS -- JUST ABOUT ATTACKS. AND SO IT DIDN'T MATTER IF IT WAS A LIE OR NOT. SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRUTH HERE. AND TRUTH IN THE APPLICATION. BECAUSE ANOTHER THING I'VE SEEN HAPPEN HERE IS 20, 30, 50 PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF REALLY GOOD INFORMATION. AND THEN COMMISSIONERS SIMPLY MAKE STATEMENTS TO THE -- TO THE OPPOSITE. AND SO THE FACT THAT YOU'RE SITTING UP THERE DOESN'T MEAN THAT WHAT YOU SAY IS NECESSARILY TRUE. BUT IN THIS POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT, WE HAVE JUST BEEN PROVING THAT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS PUT IN THE PROPOSAL WAS SOME NUMBERS. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ANTICIPATED ON PAGE ONE OF THE SUMMARY. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ANTICIPATED TO GENERATE 4990 DAILY TRIPS, WHICH INCLUDES 336 AND 427 PEAK TRIPS. I SUSPECT IT IS JUST A LANGUAGE GAME, I BELIEVE THAT IT WILL INCLUDE THOSE. BUT IT WON'T BE LIMITED TO THOSE. IT DOESN'T ADD UP. 
          YOU WILL HAVE NEARLY 5000 DAILY TRIPS. PROBABLY MORE THAN 336 , AND PROBABLY MORE THAN 427 WILL BE EVENING PEOPLE TRIPS. SO THIS ON ITS FACE LOOKS FALSE. I THINK WE NEED TO APPLY COMMON SENSE AND ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT IS HAPPENING. LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE. 
          >> I AM BLAKE DIEHL, 2655 SANTA MONICA BOULEVARD. I MOVED HERE IN 1990 WHEN THE TARGET SHOPPING CENTER WAS A COW PASTURE. I'VE SEEN SO MUCH GROWTH IN THE TIME I HAVE BEEN HERE. AND RECENTLY, MY DAUGHTER GRADUATED FROM FLORIDA STATE. I WENT OVER THERE FOR THE GRADUATION AND SHE LIVED IN THE TOWN HOME WITH THREE OTHER ROOMMATES AND WERE OUT THERE WITH THE OTHER FAMILIES OF ROOMMATES ALL TALKING ABOUT THE JOBS THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE AND WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO GO. THEY CAME DOWN HERE AFTER GRADUATING FROM NORTH CAROLINA STATE. THEY GOT A FIRST JOB AS A MECHANICAL ENGINEER. AFTER TWO YEARS, I WAS ABLE TO BUY A HOUSE WITH WHAT I MADE AS AN ENGINEER. AND THREE OF MY DAUGHTERS ROOMMATES , WE WERE DOWN THERE TALKING, AND WE WERE DOING SOME MATH, AND WE FIGURED IT OUT THAT ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION , FOR WHAT THEY WERE STARTING OUT AT AS FLORIDA STATE GRADUATES IN ENGINEERING AND COMPUTING SCIENCE, FOR THEM TO BITE A HOME WAS THREE TIMES AS EXPENSIVE IN DOLLARS AS IT WAS FOR ME WHEN I LIVED DOWN HERE. SO SOMETHING HAS GOT TO BE DONE TO MAKE HOUSING MORE AFFORDABLE. WE ARE GOING ON 16 YEARS NOW SINCE IT HAPPENED, AND IT PUT PROBABLY EIGHT, NINE, 10 BUILDERS OUT OF BUSINESS THEN. THE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO CREATE 200 HOUSING UNITS AND $267,000, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU READ THE REPORT THAT THE ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS CAME OUT WITH. ST. 
          JOHNS COUNTY HOME AFFORDABILITY INDEX , THAT MEANS THAT A FAMILY MAKING THE MEDIAN , GETTING A CONVENTIONAL MORTGAGE IS BARELY HALF WAY TOWARDS BEING ABLE TO BUY THE MEDIAN PRICE HOUSE IN THIS COUNTY, MEDIUM HOT THE MEDIUM HOUSING 
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PRICES $531,000. THEY NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS FOR HIGH SCHOOL TEACHERS FOR 30 YEARS, AND THEY HAD TO DRIVE AN HOUR TO WORK AND BACK EVERY MORNING. THIS PROJECT CAN PROVIDE ENOUGH HOUSING FOR EVERY TEACHER AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR MIDDLE SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL, CAN HAVE ON AFFORDABLY PRICED HOME. I URGE YOU ALL TO APPROVE THIS. THANK YOU. 
          >> HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? I LIVE AT 340 NORTH ROSCOE BOULEVARD. 
          I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 25 YEARS. I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AS THE COUNTY CONTINUES TO GROW , AND WE CONTINUE TO IMPROVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY EVERY DAY. 
          BY OFFERING NEW, AFFORDABLE QUALITY HOMES AND STRENGTHEN THE WORKFORCE AT ST. JOHNS COUNTY DEPENDS ON. INC. YOU. 
          >> HELLO, MY NAME IS JOEY ROBINSON. I WORKED ON HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY FOR FIVE OR SIX YEARS NOW. WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT SPEAKING TODAY, I WAS INITIALLY THINKING ABOUT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE SAID HERE TODAY . HOMES FOR NURSES, HOMES FOR DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. I'M THINKING ABOUT MY OWN DAUGHTER. SHE WORKS AS AN AESTHETICIAN . SHE WORKS TO SUPPORT MY LITTLE NIECE . AND I STARTED THINKING, MY BROTHER-IN-LAW SAID, HEY, MY DAUGHTER, SHE'S GOING TO BE A NURSE. SHE'S GOING TO BE AT ST. JOHNS RIVER. AND SO I STARTED THINKING ABOUT ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE WHO COULD BENEFIT FROM THIS TYPE OF HOUSING COST. AND I DO SUPPORT OSCEOLA LAKES. YOU KNOW, I ALSO AM THE PRESIDENT OF A LOCAL MANUFACTURING GROUP. A FRIEND OF MINE, AND ALSO THE MEN WHO WORKS FOR ME SAID BOTH THE BUSINESS THAT I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE OTHER MANUFACTURING COMPANIES WERE UPSTARTS. EVERY YEAR, THE PEOPLE IN OUR FACTORY HAVE BEEN MAKING MORE MONEY. WHAT I SEE, HOW THIS CAN HELP US, IS THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, OUR FACTORY EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAKE MORE MONEY. 
          THEY MAY BE ABLE TO AFFORD A HOME LIKE THIS EVENTUALLY. BUT WE ARE GOING TO NEED MORE PEOPLE IN THE BACK OFFICE. WE NEED ADDITIONAL SAFETY WORKERS. ALL THOSE THINGS, WHEN YOU START THINKING ABOUT THIS TYPE OF PROJECT CAN HELP THOSE PEOPLE . YOU KNOW, I AM 55. I HAVE MORE YEARS BEHIND ME THAN I DO IN FRONT OF ME. I THINK ABOUT IF WE COULD HELP PAVE THE WAY FOR THEM, BECAUSE IT IS TOUGH. THEY ARE TRYING TO START THEIR OWN LIVES, AND I KNOW THAT THINGS LIKE THIS , THEY CAN BENEFIT THEM. THERE IS NO SILVER BULLET . BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST DO ONE THING AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT BETTER. 
          BUT THE PROS OUTWEIGH THE CONS AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I THINK IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THE PROS OUTWEIGH SOME OF THE CONS. AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL THINK ABOUT THAT FOR OSCEOLA LAKES. THANK YOU. 
          >> MY NAME IS GLORIA WHITE, AND I LIVE IN THE SOUTH BOAT SUBDIVISION. IT'S BETWEEN WILDWOOD ROAD AND WATSON ROAD. 
          THERE HAVE BEEN MANY IMPROVEMENTS MADE, THINGS THAT HAVE COME TO US. WE FIND OUT IN MY PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION, U.S. 
          1 IS REALLY OVERLOOKED. I AM NOT AGAINST WORKFORCE HOUSING, 
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BUT I WILL SAY THIS MUCH -- I DON'T BELIEVE THE WILDWOOD GROVE CAN HANDLE THAT. SURE, IT'S 45 MILES AN HOUR. NOBODY MENTIONED THE SCHOOL BUSES FOR THE SCHOOLKIDS TO GET ON AND OFF THOSE BUSES WHEN THERE IS NO PLACE FOR THEM TO TURN OFF TO LET THOSE KIDS OFF. BACKUP THE TRAFFIC. I FEAR FOR THE SAFETY OF THOSE KIDS ON THE ROAD. AND I FEEL SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DO LIVE UP WILDWOOD ROAD, BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BEG TO GET OUT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC -- THE TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING THROUGH THERE. SO IF THE ROADS ARE FIXED, AND WILDWOOD ROAD IS IMPROVED ENOUGH TO HANDLE ALL OF THAT, I AM ALL FOR IT. THANK YOU. 
          >> WITH ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT? 
          >> HELLO, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS BOBBY STOCKTON. I JUST WANTED TO SAY , I DO SUPPORT THIS PRODUCT, AND ABC VERY GREAT VALUE IN SPENDING DOLLARS ON FIRST RESPONDERS AND WORKFORCE HOUSING. I JUST WANT TO SAY OSCEOLA LAKES WOULD BE OF GREAT VALUE TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I LIVE AT 313 GIANNA WAY. IT'S A DEVELOPMENT OFF OF WILDWOOD, WHICH IS ABOUT 1000 FEET FROM THIS DEVELOPMENTS ENTRANCE. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO RATTLE OFF A FEW FIGURES THAT I WOULD HAVE. THE FIRST ONE IS EVERYONE KEEPS TALKING ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING . IF A WORKFORCE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. YOU REALIZE YOU ARE ONLY GETTING 30% OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS WORKFORCE HOUSING. 30%. THE OTHER 60 IS -- IT BECOMES 70% AS MARKET RATE. IT IS ZONED O.R.. IT IS OWN FOR 145 HOMES. THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET INFRASTRUCTURE IN , BUT THEY CAN'T. THEY HAVE MANAGEMENT THEY HAVE TO ABIDE BY. THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR STREETS. COMMUNITIES , UTILITY EASEMENTS. SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT. THE OTHER PART OF IT IS THEY ARE HERE FOR A REASON. THEY NEED YOUR PERMISSION. IF THEY DIDN'T, THEY WOULDN'T BE HERE. THEY ARE ASKING YOU TO REZONE A DISTRICT THAT IS CONSIDERED O.R. , OPEN RURAL. 
          IT IS OPEN RURAL FOR A REASON. IT WAS NEVER ENVISIONED TO BE PRIMARY ARTERIAL. THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IT'S GOING TO GENERATE, IT IS ALREADY GENERATING MORE TRAFFIC THAN ORCHARD PARK , WHICH IS DOWN THE STREET. IF IT DOES, THEY ARE PROBABLY GOING TO NEED A HOOK, WHICH IS A VARIATION OF A TRAFFIC TIGNALL. COMING EASTBOUND. IT'S EXTREMELY CRITICAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE ON A TRAFFIC IT WOULD 
          GENERATE. >> WE KNOW THAT? WAS I 
          PROVIDED? >> WE WILL ADDRESS COMMENTS AFTER THIS. IT EXPIRED ON JULY 2ND. 
          >> FOR THE RECORD, YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME THREE MINUTES TO REBUT IT WHEN A HALF HOUR TESTIMONY? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S ON THE RECORD THAT YOU PROVIDED ME THREE 
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          MINUTES. OKAY. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? 
          >> MY NAME IS JEAN STOCKTON , A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF ST. 
          JOHN'S COUNTY. I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. IT IS GREAT FOR ST. 
          JOHNS COUNTY, IT IS GOOD FOR THE POLICE, IT'S GOOD FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS, IT'S GOOD FOR THE TEACHERS. IT'S A GOOD PROJECT. IT SOLVES A LOT OF ISSUES OF A LOT OF PROBLEMS THAT ARE GOING ON. YOU ARE THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT BIRTH THIS HOUSING. YOU CREATED IT. YOU DID SOMETHING REALLY GOOD AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY NEEDED. THIS PROJECT ANSWERS THE CALL THAT YOU INDICATED. PEOPLE TALK ABOUT DENSITY, BUT WORKFORCE HOUSING CAN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT DENSITY. 
          IT IS PART OF THE WAY OF MAKING WORKFORCE HOUSING HAPPEN AND AFFORDABLE. UNLESS PEOPLE WANT TO DONATE THEIR PROPERTY. MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE AN ORDINANCE OF 2% OFF OF HOUSES -- THIS IS THE WAY IT WORKS, IT'S THE WAY IT WORKS, IT IS WHAT YOU CREATED IT, AND YOU DID A GOOD THING FOR THE COUNTY. A LOT OF MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT ON THIS PROPERTY TO BRING IT TO YOU, TO BRING THIS TO YOU. I WAS WONDERING WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE THAT WOULD SEND TO OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS WANTING TO DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE COUNTY BY CREATING WORKFORCE HOUSING . YOU GO A LONG WAY, YOU SPEND A LOT OF MONEY, AND THEN WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE WITH THAT SENT TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WE TURNED THIS DOWN? SO EVERYONE IS IN FAVOR OF WORKFORCE HOUSING. BUT IF NOT NOW, WHEN ? WHERE IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN? THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO START SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE COUNTY AND ANOTHER PROJECT. BUT THIS IS A TIME TO DO THIS. IT IS SAFETY, PUBLIC SAFETY. WHAT IS THE VALUE OF A LIFE ? WHEN I CAME IN THIS WARNING, THERE WAS A TRAIN COMING IN. THAT TRAIN LOCKED UP MY ACCESS TO HERE, AND IT WAS LOCKED DOWN U.S. 1 . BECAUSE THERE'S AN EMERGENCY GOING ON. YOU ARE GOING TO NEED ACCESS. 
          THEY ARE WILLING TO SPEND $17 MILLION, I UNDERSTAND, TO CREATE A SAFETY ROAD THAT DOESN'T TRAP SOMEBODY BEHIND A RAILROAD. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PUT A VALUE ON THAT, BUT THAT HAS TO BE SUBSTANTIAL. I MEAN, WHAT IS THE VALUE OF A LIFE? HOW IMPORTANT IS PUBLIC SAFETY? THEY ARE WILLING TO SPEND $17 MILLION TO SOLVE THE SAFETY ISSUE. IN FAIRNESS, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE OPERATIVE FOR OVER 100 YEARS. 
          HUNDRED YEARS OF PAYING TAXES, HUNDRED YEARS OF PAYING FOR ROADS, 100 YEARS OF PAIN FOR SCHOOLS, 100 YEARS FOR PAYING INTO THE COUNTY. HOW IS IT FAIR TO TURN DOWN THIS PERSON THAT HAS CONTRIBUTED AND BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO SO MANY? I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS. IT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTY. IN QUEUE. 
          >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? 
          >> JASON FITZPATRICK, WHAT 231. FATHER OF FOUR , PLENTY OF CHILDREN IN THE FIRST HOME STAGE OF THEIR LIFE. AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THEM TO LIVE. WE HAVE HOUSES FOR RENT, WE HAVE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE DOING TILT TO RENT . FULL SUPPORT OF HOUSING AND UNDERSTAND THAT ONLY 3% OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS FOR THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, WITH THE COST INVOLVED IN AND OF IT SELF, IT IS A THIRD . CHANGE IS IN PROGRESS AS ALWAYS, I THINK YOU FOR PUTTING UP WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND IN SOME CASES ABUSE THAT WE WITNESSED TODAY. IT'S A THANKLESS JOB YOU GUYS DO, AND WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          >> WITH ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? 
          >> MC SIEVERT . A LIFELONG RESIDENT . AND AS SOMEONE WHO HAS GROWN UP HERE SINCE THE 80S AND 90S , YOU KNOW, AS 
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PREVIOUSLY STATED, I DON'T ENVY ANY OF YOUR JOBS TRY TO CORRECT PATH. A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE HERE, I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS. AND AFFORDABILITY , AND HOUSES BUILT UP THE ROADS AND THE TRAFFIC. THE BOTTOM LINE IS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE AFFORDABILITY IS A CONCERN. AND WE WANT TO HAVE RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT . THEY ARE TALKING A LOT ABOUT DENSITY. WELL, DENSITY IS NEEDED IN THIS COUNTY TO BRING MORE HOMES. IT'S A SUPPLY AND DEMAND THING. IT HELPS WITH AFFORDABILITY. NOT JUST WITH THESE 192 THAT ARE IN THERE. SO I THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING THAT THEY ARE BEING RESPONSIBLE, AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE YOUR HOMEWORK, SOMETHING IS IN LINE WITH THE WAY SOMETHING 
          >> WE GOT TO HAVE HOUSES THAT WE CAN AFFORD. THEY WILL PROTECT US, SERVE US FOOD. GET US TO WHERE WE ARE GOING. I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD FOR EVERYBODY. 
          >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, WE WILL 
          CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THAT BRINGS US BACK TO MRS. SMITH. 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR . IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE WILL KEEP IT BRIEF. 
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          >> I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE COMING OUT. WE ARE JUST GOING TO WRAP THIS UP BY B QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING. I KNOW THE BOARD MEMBERS UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THAT MEANS IT HAS TO BE BASED ON EXPERT TESTIMONY , SO WE HAVE AN EXPERT TRAFFIC STUDY , WE HAVE OUR ENTIRE STAFF, OR ENTIRE APPLICATION PACKAGE , AND WE HAVE THE EXPERT STAFF REPORT THAT ANALYZES THE TRANSPORTATION LINKS, AND WE PROVIDE THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE AGREEMENT , WHICH IS THE NEXT APPLICATION. 
          I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF DISCUSSION TODAY , SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE LAW. I AM A LICENSED FLORIDA LAND-USE ATTORNEY. THE PROPERTY WERE TALKING ABOUT HAS A LAND-USE DESIGNATION AS RESIDENTIAL B, AS IN THE WAY. BUT, IF YOU LOOK TO THE NORTH , THOSE LAND USES ALLOW PER ACRE, AND THE DISTRICT ALLOWS UP TO 13 UNITS PER ACRE. SO, WHAT THIS PROJECT IS DOING IS COMPLYING WITH FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION REQUIREMENTS, BECAUSE, LITERALLY, THOSE REQUIREMENTS CAN PROVIDE DENSITY BONUSES , WHICH IS WHAT IS BEING DONE HERE. THEN, YOU HAVE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE REQUIRED ZONING CATEGORY , THAT AGAIN, ALLOWS DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE THIS IDEA, THEY THINK, IF YOU PROVIDE DENSITY IN THIS LOCATION, WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY , YOU WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 603 UNITS. SOME OF THOSE UNITS WERE GOING OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AREA. THAT IS WHY THE DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY IS WHERE IT IS NOW. 
          UNDER YOUR CODE , WORKFORCE HOUSING , ZONING WOULD ALLOW A MINIMUM OF 30% OF THOSE UNITS MIND AS WELL WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DENSITY AND KEEPING THAT DENSITY NEAR THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. THERE WAS A COMMENT -- I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR AGREEMENTS AND TURN IT OVER TO GREG. WE DO, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, AN EMAIL FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD, AS OF YESTERDAY. THEY HAVE REVIEWED THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE AGREEMENT, WHICH WE SUBMITTED TO THEM SEVERAL TIMES AGO AND HAVE APPROVED IT. HERE IS THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE AGREEMENT THAT IS IN ITS FINAL FORM AND WILL BE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD'S AGENDA IN OCTOBER. WE HAVE PROVIDED PROPORTIONATE SHARE, AS FAR AS SCHOOL AND CAPACITY, AND WE WILL COMPLY WITH THAT PORTION OF THE LAW, AND THEN GOING TO THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE AGREEMENT FOR THE COUNTY , AGAIN, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE DETAILS OF THE BUILDING. 
          BUILDING THE IMPROVEMENTS , THE ROAD EXTENSION , WATSON ROAD AT U.S. 1. THAT IS THE AGREEMENT , THE SECOND ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA. 
          THAT IS ALSO IN THE PUBLIC RECORD, ALL THE TIMING FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, IS, ACTUALLY, AND WE CAN TALK ONE MORE MINUTE ABOUT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT. 
          DEVELOPMENT CODE AND INAUDIBLE ] AROUND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. AND, THE WORKFORCE HOUSING ZONING, WITH FENCING PROVIDED ALONG THIS AREA AND AROUND THESE AREAS, AND ALSO , SINGLE-FAMILY ADJACENT TO SINGLE-FAMILY , AND THEN TOWNHOMES AND DUPLEXES IN THE MIDDLE , AND A BIG BUFFER, AS WELL AS THE DITCH, PROVIDING A BUFFER TO THESE 
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FOLKS ON THE EAST SIDE. ON THE WESTSIDE , THIS PROPERTY HAS NO LAND-USE ZONING RULES. SO, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR REZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY TO HAVE IT BE ANYTHING OTHER THAN IT IS TODAY. 
          WETLAND AREAS. RESERVATION WITH DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA AND HAS TRAFFIC PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT. GREG, TAKE IT AWAY. 
          >> OKAY. YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT ME LIKE, HOW LONG ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE? GET THIS OVER WITH. FIRST OFF, COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. I HAVE FOUR DAUGHTERS. THEY RANGE IN AGE FROM 36 TO 42. ONE IS A DANCE MAJOR, ONE IS AN EDUCATION MAJOR, ONE TAUGHT ASL, SIGN LANGUAGE, AND THE FOURTH ONE IS AN ENGLISH MAJOR IN THE FORESTRY DIVISION. I HAVE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD A HOUSE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.  I WANT GO INTO THE DETAILS. THE CULPRIT IS THE COST OF HOUSING. HOUSING HAS RISEN DRAMATICALLY IN COST, COMPARED TO THE RISE IN INCOMES. THAT IS THE CULPRIT HERE. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO RESOLVE. WHEN I WAS FIRST ASKED TO BE PART OF THIS TEAM , AND I AM NOT A DEVELOPER, BY THE WAY. I HAVE NOT BEEN ASKED TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY. I WAS ASKED TO PUT TOGETHER A TEAM TO GET THROUGH THE ZONING. I WAS PRESENTED WITH A SITE PLAN. THAT SITE PLAN HAD, ROUGHLY, THE SAME NUMBER OF HOMES ON IT. IT ALSO HAD A CONNECTION TO WATSON ROAD. IT ALSO HAD THE ROAD THAT CONNECTED TO WATSON ROAD WINDING THROUGH TOWNHOMES AND DUPLEXES AND SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES. STOP SIGNS AND LEFT TURNS AND RIGHT TURNS. IT WAS NOT A PUBLIC ROAD WITH THE PUBLIC BENEFIT LIKE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE. IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR LIST OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND I AM NOT TRYING TO DENIGRATE THEM IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM, BECAUSE I THINK THEY ARE ALL GOOD PROJECTS. NONE OF THEM PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION BENEFITS. 
          PARALLEL ROUTES, WITH ROADS BEING BUILT UP FRONT, BUT THIS ONE, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL -- TODAY, WE ASK YOU TO VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE , AND WE ASK YOU TO APPROVE THIS, OKAY? BUT, WE DO ASK YOU TO VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE, SO WE HOPE YOU SEE THAT WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE THIS BETTER FOR ST. 
          JOHNS COUNTY. THANK YOU. >> I JUST WANT TO QUALIFY -- CLARIFY THAT IT IS NOT LEFT SOLELY TO EXPERT TESTIMONY. 
          INAUDIBLE ] THERE ARE FACTS AND SOMEBODY HAS FIRST-HAND KNOWLEDGE, BACK KNOWLEDGE , AND YOU BASE YOUR DECISIONS ON THAT , NOT JUST THE EXPERT TESTIMONY OR EXPERT WITNESSES. 
          >> OKAY, BACK TO THE BOARD. >> I JUST HAD A QUESTION. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AS FAR AS, SOMEBODY MENTIONED THAT THE HIGHER DENSITY, YOU CAN'T GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHOUT HIGHER DENSITY. WHAT IS THE CORRELATION WITH THAT? EXPLAIN IT TO FOLKS THAT MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          >> LAND COST IS A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF BUILDING ANY HOME. 
          IF YOU TAKE AN ACRE AND YOU PUT ONE HOUSE PER ACRE, OBVIOUSLY, THE AMOUNT OF THE LAND COST GOES UP. SO DOES YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE COST. ON A ONE ACRE LOT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE 100 FEET OF ROAD BUILT IN FRONT OF THAT LOT FOR THAT PARTICULAR HOUSE. IT IS COSTING US ABOUT, BASE COST, ABOUT $1200 PER FOOT TO BUILD THE ROAD. IF YOU HAVE A 16 FOOT WIDE TOWNHOME LOT, THE COST TO BUILD THAT ROAD IN FRONT OF THAT LOT IS 
          SUBSTANTIALLY LESS. >> THEN ANSWERS MY QUESTION. I UNDERSTAND IT, I JUST WANTED FOLKS THAT MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THAT -- WE HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME , HIGH DENSITY IS WHAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. IT KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH WORKFORCE 
          HOUSING DENSITY. >> WE CAN'T SAVE ENOUGH TO BUY FOURS TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHOUT THE DENSITY. 
          >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. WHO IS THE DEVELOPER? 
          >> I'M REALLY NOT SURE, AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
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          >> YOU KEPT SAYING THE DEVELOPER THIS AND THAT -- 
          >> THE OWNERS OF THE DEVELOPER AT THIS POINT. 
          >> HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY YOUR DAUGHTERS, WHO SOUND LIKE THEY ARE DOING WELL IN LIFE, HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY THEM BEING ABLE TO AFFORD A $267,000 HOME? HOW WOULD THAT WORK? 
          >> ONE OF THEM HAS TWO INCOMES, SO THAT IS HELPFUL. ANOTHER ONE HAS BEEN MOVING UP, IN TERMS OF INCOME, AND SHE WENT BACK AND GOT ANOTHER DEGREE TO HELP HER BE ABLE TO EARN AND AFFORD A 
          HOUSE. >> HOW DOES SHE HAVE TO EARN? 
          >> SHE HAS TO EARN ABOUT $70,000. 
          >> I'M HAVING A HARD TIME JUSTIFYING A BEAUTIFUL, BRAND-NEW ROAD DROPPING INTO TWO COUNTRY ROADS. I DROVE OVER THERE. I MEAN, I COULD NOT EVEN GET AROUND -- PEOPLE WERE PARKED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, AS WELL AS HAVING CHILDREN WALKING OR RIDING THEIR BIKES ON EITHER SIDE, TO HAVE THE TRAFFIC NOT IMPERIL -- THE SAFETY JUST SCARES ME. I TOLD YOU BEFORE, I WENT AND LOOKED AT ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS LOOKING FOR A GARBAGE TRUCK TO SEE IF THEY WERE PICKING UP THE GARBAGE ON TIME. DURING THIS TIME I WAS OUT THERE, I COULD BARELY GET THROUGH THE STREETS OF THE CARS PARKED ON THE SIDES OF THE ROADS, AND I DID ALSO TELL YOU THAT I NOTICED LOTS OF VETERANS FLAGS IN THEIR FRONT YARDS. I NOTICED POLICE OFFICER CARS IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS, FIREMAN TRUCKS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY A BEAUTIFUL ROAD 
          DROPPING ONTO COUNTRY ROADS? >> I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CLASSIFIED -- CLASSIFY WILDWOOD AS A COUNTRY ROAD. WATSON IS A TIGHTER ROAD. I AGREE WITH YOU, IT HAS MORE OF THE CHARACTER OF A COUNTRY ROAD, BUT WILDWOOD IS ALREADY A COLLECTOR. YOU HAVE ONE COLLECTOR CONNECTING TO ANOTHER. 
          >> WAS THAT ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS? 
          >> YES, MA'AM. >> MS. AVERY SMITH, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. I WAS AT MR. JONES'S HOUSE FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF, AND HE PUT TOGETHER A SLIDESHOW WITH SOME OF THE CONCERNS. A NUMBER OF THE RESIDENTS , THEY ARE HAVING ISSUES WITH POLLUTION AND THE DRAINAGE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT, IT IS A RAVINE, REALLY. ANYHOW, IT IS ERODING AND THEY HAVE WHAT I THINK ARE SOME VERY LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPACT WE ARE CREATING. IT IS OVERFLOWING NORTH INTO CORONADO, AND THERE IS AN HOA RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING. I WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT HOW THIS DRAINAGE WILL IMPACT THEM , HOW IT WOULD IMPACT THE ASSOCIATION FEES. 
          THERE ARE SOME DIRECTLY AFFECTED NEIGHBORS ]. WE UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU FLOOD AN AREA WITH SEPTIC, IT CAN BE VERY IMPACTFUL , SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE SPEAK TO THE 
          DRAINAGE PLAN. >> DRAINING EXPERT, A CIVIL ENGINEER. HE TALKED ABOUT NOT ONLY THE DRAINAGE ON THIS PROJECT BUT 
          >> GREAT. >> I GUESS, THE FIRST THING I WILL DO IS INTRODUCE SOME PICTURES. WE DID INVESTIGATE EXACTLY THIS DRAINAGE ISSUE. I WILL SHOW YOU THE PICTURES OF THE ISSUES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS THE DRAINAGE DITCH THAT IS IMMEDIATELY SOUTH -- I'M SORRY, NORTH THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THIS PICTURE, RIGHT HERE IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT DITCH. YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT THERE. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO CLARIFY IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN QUANTITY OF WATER AND RATE OF DISCHARGE, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL CONFUSE THE TWO, SO AT AN IMPERVIOUS AREA, IT DOES INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WILL BE DISCHARGED, AND AREAS WHERE WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT WATER BODY WE ARE DISCHARGING TO, LIKE IN THIS CASE, GOING OUT TO THE CREEK , IT'S GOT A GOOD OUTFLOW. YOU ARE CONCERNED WITH THE QUALITY. 
          SO, WHAT THE CONCERN, WHAT YOU ARE PERMITTING FOR IS THE RATE OF DISCARDS. THIS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES TO CAPTURE THE WATER INTO RETENTION PONDS. THEY WILL BE RETAINED AND RELEASED SLOWLY, SO THE DISCHARGE DOES NOT EXCEED WHAT IT IS IN 
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PREDEVELOPMENT. THE ISSUE WE SEE HERE WITH EROSION, WE DID OUR BEST TO INVESTIGATE IT, BUT THERE ARE SOME FACTORS THAT HELPED CAUSE THE EROSION , AND THERE IS A CHUNK THAT IS RELATED TO THE HOMES THAT ARE AT THE TOP SIDE OF THE BANK. 
          THE THING YOU WERE LOOKING AT RIGHT THERE, IT IS ABOUT 20 FEET FROM TOP TO BOTTOM. THESE HOMES THAT ARE ON THE WESTERN SIDE ARE C RATED LOTS. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT ALL OF THE DRAINAGE FROM THE BACKYARD RUNS OFF THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, AND IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, YOU HAVE RUNOFF COMING OFF THE HOMES AND CHANNEL LYSING BETWEEN THE HOMES AND IT RUNS OUT THE BACK. WHEN YOU HAVE THAT HAPPENING, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO KEEP THE BASE STABILIZED. LIKELY, THOSE AREAS ARE BETWEEN THESE HOMES. DEFINITELY, THERE IS SOME MAINTENANCE THAT WILL BE REQUIRED IN THIS AREA. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RATE OF DISCHARGE , AND THIS WILL NOT INCREASE 
          THE RATE OF DISCHARGE. >> MR. WILLIAMS, IT IS YOUR OPINION THAT THE WATER FLOWING WILL NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE CHALLENGES THEY ARE FACING NOW? OR, IT MIGHT? I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME WIGGLE ROOM HERE. I'M TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF -- 
          >> -- WE ARE GOING TO LIMIT OUR WATER TO THE RAIN DISCHARGE , IN OTHER WORDS, WE ARE NOT GOING TO INCREASE THAT RATE OF DISCHARGE. IT WILL BE WHAT IT IS TODAY OR LESS. ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS TALKING WITH THE TEAM ABOUT RECENTLY IS, TO ASK THAT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS UPSTREAM LIMIT THEIR WATER BASED ON A PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE DOWNSTREAM IS KIND OF UNFAIR. SO, IN THIS CASE, THAT RATE OF DISCHARGE , YOU CAN'T HAVE A TREE FALL IN A DITCH AND BLOCK EVERYBODY'S DRAINAGE UPSTREAM AND SAY, YOU CAN'T DISCHARGE ANY WATER TODAY. 
          THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS. IF WE WERE TO LIMIT THE WATER THAT WAS GOING FOR THE DITCH ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WHAT YOU ARE PROBABLY DOING IS BACKING UP WATER FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE SOUTH OF US. THE DITCH ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY, NOT TO BENEFIT THIS PROPERTY , LIKE JEFF SAID EARLY ON. THAT DITCH , HE AGREED THAT THE COUNTY COULD DO THAT , MANY YEARS AGO, TO BENEFIT ALL OF THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH. THE CLEAR FLOW OF WATER THROUGH THAT DITCH BENEFITS ALL OF THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH. THIS PROJECT PROPOSES TO MAINTAIN THAT. WE CAN BE GOOD STEWARDS AND HELP THE PEOPLE TO THE SOUTH WITH THEIR DRAINAGE, AND STILL , OUR DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT DISCHARGE 
          >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE CORONADO, THAT IS AN EXISTING 
          CONDITION, CORRECT? >> YES. THAT'S RIGHT. 
          >> YES, SIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. MS. AVERY SMITH, PRICE IS 267 TODAY. WILL THAT GO UP WITHIN APPROVAL TODAY AND WHEN IT IS ACTUALLY BUILT AND SOLD? 
          >> IT COULD, BECAUSE EVERY YEAR ON JULY 1ST THERE IS A METHOD OF DOING YEAR IT WAS 260,000 STARTING JULY 1ST OF 2024, IT IS 267,000, SO YOUR STAFF TOLD ME THAT IS EVERY YEAR UNDER 
          WORKFORCE ZONING. >> I AM SEEING 267. I'M HEARING A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT BASED ON 267. THIS COULD BE SUBJECT TO POTENTIAL, TWO MORE PRICE EXHALATIONS BEFORE THE 
          ORDINANCE. >> WHOEVER DEVELOPS THE PROPERTY , THEY ARE GOING TO START PUTTING HOUSINGS -- HOUSES UP. WHATEVER YEAR THAT IS, THAT IS THE MAXIMUM PRICE. 
          >> WE HEARD ABOUT THE MANY DRIVEWAYS. YOU MAY WANT TO 
          INTRODUCE YOURSELF. >> DICK DESOUSA. 
          >> YOU ARE THE TRANSPORTATION EXPERT WITH THE COUNTY. THERE ARE MANY DRIVEWAYS THAT EXIT ONTO WILDWOOD DRIVE. WOULD THE SIGNAL BEING PROPOSED HERE QUALIFY? WHAT IS YOUR BEST GUESS? THERE IS A STUDY AND A PROCESS. WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT 
          THAT? >> YES, WE WILL NEED TO PROVE 
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THAT A SIGNAL IS WARRANTED THERE. BEST PROJECTION IS THAT WILL BE THE CASE , FOR THIS PROJECT, IN PARTICULAR. OTHER ACCESS POINTS, THAT'S NOT GOING TO PRECLUDE A SIGNAL FROM GOING IN. WE CAN'T JUST DENY ACCESS AND SAY THAT JUST BECAUSE THERE IS AN ADJACENT DRIVEWAY, WE CANNOT DENY ACCESS BECAUSE OF AN ADJACENT OR SINGLE USE DRIVEWAY. WE LOOK AT ALL THINGS IN TOTALITY. THE ACCESS NEEDS TO BE DESIGNED FOR THAT POTENTIAL CONNECTION. THE DRIVEWAYS ARE THERE. HOW DO WE SAFELY ALLOW ACCESS TO THOSE DRIVEWAYS? ALL OF THAT WILL GET TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT , IF THIS PROJECT WERE TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          >> WHEN YOU SAY, YOU CAN'T DENY IT , IT'S ABOUT SAFETY, MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS, YOU SAY YOU CAN'T DENY ACCESS. IS THAT 
          A D.O.T. STANDARD? >> WE ESTABLISHED NOT TO DENY ACCESS TO A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS A POINT OF LEGAL 
          ACCESS. >> THANK YOU. THOSE ARE MY 
          QUESTIONS. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN. 
          >> I HAVE TO ADMIT , I HAVE BEEN HERE ALMOST EIGHT YEARS, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT DECISIONS, AND I HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING FOR TWO TO THREE WEEKS , AND WHAT I HAVE COME TO REALIZE IN THE DISCUSSION TODAY IS THAT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER HAS GONE THE EXTRA MILE, DONE EVERYTHING POSSIBLE , THAT REALLY , IT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO WHAT SHE HAS TRIED TO DO, AND DO ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS, PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO WORKERS THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED . AND, I'VE GOT TO SAY, BASED ON EVERYTHING I HAVE HEARD TODAY, THIS IS A TOUGH DECISION , AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT TRYING TO MEET THE DEFICIENCIES IN TRAFFIC NOW, IT'S A BRIDGE TOO FAR. IN FACT, THAT IS WHAT THE EVIDENCE SHOWS. SO, EVEN THOUGH, AS MUCH AS I SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING , AND I THINK THE DEVELOPER HAS GONE BEYOND WHAT I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED HIM TO, IT IS JUST A BRIDGE TOO FAR. I WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY I AM VOTING THE WAY I AM VOTING. I JUST HAVE TO GO 
          ON THE RECORD AND SAY THAT. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN. I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU. MY CONCERNS FROM THE BEGINNING DEVELOPER. IT IS STILL NOT ENOUGH TO OFFSET MY CONCERNS. 
          SCHOOL CAPACITY, DRAINAGE CONCERNS ON THE ROADS. I WILL NOT BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AGAIN, GUYS, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION. WE HAD THE TOURISM GUYS HERE EARLIER TODAY, AND I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THEM A LOT. THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF. ONE OF THE THINGS I CONSISTENTLY HEAR IS A NEED FOR MORE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ESTABLISHED A WHOLE PROGRAM DEDICATED TO ATTAINABLE HOUSING, AND WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS. 
          ANYTIME WE HAVE ANY PROJECT LIKE THIS, ANY KIND OF HOUSING PROJECT , WITH REGARDS TO HIGHER DENSITY, YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT THESE PROBLEMS, SO I DO THINK , AND I AM PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE UP HERE THAT WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT, BUT I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LIVE WHERE THEY WORK, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PROVIDE WORKFORCE HOUSING. AND SO, I AM IN SUPPORT OF IT. I THINK THE TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION , AND I LOOK AT FOLKS LIKE TRINITY 
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SPIEGEL , THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT COME UP HERE -- I MEAN, JUDY HAS BEEN IN THAT AREA SINCE I GOT ON THE BOARD, AND TO SEE HER COME OUT HERE AND PUT HER NECK ON THE LINE, SHE REALIZES HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS. IT REALLY SAYS A LOT TO ME. I AM IN SUPPORT OF IT. LIKE I SAID, I MAY BE THE ONLY ONE, BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT, AND I AM NOT -- I THINK THE 
          PROS OUTWEIGH THE CONS. >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. 
          >> JUST TO PIGGYBACK , IT'S A LOT EASIER WHEN THERE IS A CLEAR, GOOD GUIDE , AND SOMETHING IS SO CLEARLY RIGHT OR WRONG, AND IT MAKES EVERYBODY'S JOB EASIER. THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS HAD THIS IN HIS FAMILY FOR OVER 100 YEARS. 
          HIS WIFE PASSED AWAY, AND THIS IS ONE OF HIS ASSETS. PROPERTY RIGHTS, PEOPLE CAN MAKE MONEY ON THEIR ASSETS. I ALSO DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING UP YOUR SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT ARE DOING SO WITH MALICIOUS INTENT. THEY WANT TO HELP PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THIS TOWN. I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO THE MICROPHONE THAT I REALLY RESPECT SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT, AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION, I DON'T THINK THEY HAD MALICIOUS INTENT EITHER. THEY ARE TRYING TO DO WHAT THEY THINK IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THEIR COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY THEY LOVE LIVING IN, THEY SEE THERE ARE CHALLENGES. IT HAS BEEN COOL. THERE IS NO DISAGREEMENT THERE ARE TRAFFIC ISSUES. 
          EVERYBODY IN SUPPORT OF OR AGAINST, WE ALL AGREE THERE ARE ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC. WE ALL AGREE THAT THERE ARE ISSUES, MOST PEOPLE IN THE STATE AGREE THERE ARE ISSUES WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING, SO WE ALL AGREE ON WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE, WHETHER IT BE MORE WORKFORCE HOUSING, OR BETTER ROADS TO SUPPORT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. IT'S JUST ABOUT HOW YOU VIEW THOSE CHALLENGES, IS THE BIGGER CHALLENGE. YOU MIGHT BE THE ONLY ONE APPEARED TO VOTE YES ON THIS PROJECT. 
          IT'S NOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THE APPLICANT DID A FANTASTIC JOB OF DOING EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO MAKE THIS A PALATABLE PROJECT. IT'S JUST THAT THE LOCATION THAT IT'S IN HAS SO MANY CHALLENGES, AND WE HAVE DENIED ALMOST EVERY DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT EXIST. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S NOT A WORTHWHILE EFFORT THAT IS NOT FILLED WITH GOOD THINGS, I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT IT MOVING FORWARD. 
          >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. I MOVE A MOTION TO DENY 2023-23 OSCEOLA LAKES WORKFORCE HOUSING, BASED ON THE ITEMS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. 
          >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A 
          [8. Community Redevelopment Agency Fiscal Year 2025 Annual Budget. Pursuant to section 163.387, Florida Statutes, moneys in the Community Redevelopment Agency Trust Funds may be expended only pursuant to an annual budget adopted by the Community Redeveloped Agency and approved by the Board of County Commissioners. The CRA recommends the FY 2025 annual budget for the Flagler Estates, Vilano Beach, and West Augustine community redevelopment areas as attached]
SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. 
          4-1. >> DO WE NOT NEED TO TAKE 
          ACTION ON ITEM SEVEN? >> THANK YOU, EVERYONE. WE WILL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. I HEREBY RECESS, AND RECONVENE AS THE ST. JOHNS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AGENCY. 
          SIR, NO. WE'VE GOT MORE BUSINESS. WE ARE NOT DONE. 
          PLEASE TAKE CONVERSATIONS OUT INTO THE ROTUNDA. THANK YOU. 
          GUYS, IF YOU COULD PLEASE TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS OUT, OUR MEETING IS NOT OVER YET. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. DUNN. >> JESSE DUNN, OFFICE, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET. ITEM 8 IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUDGET. WE WILL BE HAVING BUDGET DISCUSSIONS LATER ON THIS EVENING WITH 501. THIS IS RELATED TO A FLORIDA STATUTE REQUIREMENT ON JULY 16TH. THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION AND THE 
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OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET PRESENTED THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET TO THIS COMMISSION. AT THAT TIME, IDEALLY, WE SHOULD HAVE CONVENED AT THAT TIME. BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE CRA FUNDS THAT WE SHOULD CONVENE AS THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, AND CONSIDER AND APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET FOR THE VILANO BEACH, THE FLAGER ESTATES, AND WEST AUGUSTINE CRA. THOSE LINE ITEM BUDGETS ARE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET TODAY, AS THEY WERE AS WELL DURING THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET. 
          AT THAT POINT, I CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE ANY OTHER DETAILS , BUT THAT INFORMATION WAS COMPILED WITH EACH OF THE ASSOCIATED CRA REPRESENTATIVES. WE HAVE QUARTERLY MEETINGS. I AM PART OF THAT WITH THE JOE COHEN AND JACK MITCHELL FROM ST. JOHNS COUNTY, AS WELL AS A HOST OF OTHER AREAS NEEDED, AND WE MEET QUARTERLY WITH EACH OF THE CRAS. IDEALLY, QUARTERLY WITH FLAGER ESTATES , FOR WEST AUGUSTINE, AND FOR VILANO BEACH. THESE CRAS SUNSET , MR. JOSEPH, YOU HAD ASKED THIS, IN 
          2032. >> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. DUNN? I AM SEEING NONE. WE WILL TAKE A 
          VOTE. >> WE WILL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 8. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON. 301 GENERAL ROAD, LONG BEACH. I CAME HERE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND ASK FOR SUPPORT FOR THE 2025 BUDGET. IT WAS 2022 THAT I CAME TO MAINSTREET, AND JERRY ANDERSON BECAME THE TREASURER, AND WE HAD $1600 IN A CHECKING ACCOUNT , AND WE DID NOT HAVE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, WHICH IS REQUIRED. AND, WE CAME TO THE FIVE COMMISSIONERS AT THE TIME, SOME OF YOU ARE STILL HERE, BUT IT WAS ALSO COMMISSIONER WALDRON, AND WE ASKED FOR $95,000, WHICH WAS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE ANY MORE THAN $10,000 HAD EVER BEEN ASKED FOR. WE DIDN'T KNOW YOU. YOU DID NOT KNOW US. JOE AND I CAME AND BEGGED YOU AND SAID, PUT YOUR FAITH IN US AND SPEND YOUR MONEY WISELY. YOU AGREE TO IT, AND I HOPE THAT WE HAVE HELD UP OUR PROMISE TO THE DEAL THAT BEGAN A LOT OF BEAUTIFICATION IN VILANO AND A LOT OF CONTINUATION UNDER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT HAD STARTED. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT HHS , JOE, JACK, PARKS AND REC, JAMIE , THE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT PEOPLE HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND. ADAM, MEL, DAN, AND OF COURSE, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR WALKING US THROUGH THE BUDGET AND MEETING WITH US QUARTERLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING WHAT WE SAY WE ARE GOING TO DO. BUT, I HAVE TO PARTICULARLY THINK COMMISSIONER DEAN. NO ONE HAS STOOD BEHIND VILANO QUITE LIKE COMMISSIONER DEAN HAS. IT'S NOT THAT HE HAS SAID YES TO EVERYTHING WE ASKED FOR, BUT IF WE GAVE A REASON, AND HOPEFULLY, WE HAVE PROVED THAT WE DID WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD DO. I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND I ASKED FOR IT GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU WELL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? 
          >> THANK YOU. >> 895 SOUTH ORANGE STREET. 
          WOW, TO BE STANDING HERE AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, I AM ELATED, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN HERE SO MANY TIMES BEFORE . I HAVE SPOKEN TO SO MANY COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING SINCE 2006. THAT'S A LONG TIME. BUT, I AM MORE PROUD TODAY BECAUSE I'M COMING WITH SUBSTANCE TODAY. WE HAVE WORKED TOGETHER , TO BRING, NOT JUST WAS A TIME WHEN WE BECOME APPARENT TALK AND WALK AWAY WITH NOTHING. BUT, HOPE HAS COME. THERE ARE GREAT THINGS GOING ON. IT'S BECAUSE OF YOU CARING ABOUT PEOPLE. I WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW MUCH IT IS APPRECIATED. THAT I GET TO EXPERIENCE THIS IN MY TIME OF SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. I THINK IT STANDS AS A TESTAMENT TO THE SMALL COMMUNITIES IN 
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THIS COUNTY, OF WHAT CAN BE DONE. THERE IS A LOT OF SWEAT EQUITY THAT MAKES IT HAPPEN, BUT IT CAN HAPPEN, AND THAT HOPE IS ALIVE IN THIS COUNTY. I SIT AND I LISTEN TO SOME OF THE STRUGGLES. I'M LIKE, WOW, I WISH I HAD THAT STRUGGLE IN MY COMMUNITY. BUT, TODAY, I AM PROUD TO STAND HERE AND SAY THANK YOU, BECAUSE IT'S A TIME FOR US TO CELEBRATE ALL OF THE SMALL COMMUNITIES HERE. WE FEEL A PART OF THIS COUNTY NOW. WE FEEL INCLUDED, THAT WE ARE REPRESENTED AND THOUGHT ABOUT AND CARED ABOUT, AND THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES, BECAUSE WE ARE RESIDENTS AND IT'S OKAY TO SPEND TIME AND EFFORT IN OUR COMMUNITY. HOW ARE WE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD FOR THIS COUNTY AS A WHOLE, TO MAKE IT BENEFIT EVERYBODY THAT LIVES HERE, NO MATTER WHAT? THERE IS ALWAYS ENOUGH FOR SOMEBODY TO HAVE SOMETHING , SO EVERYBODY GETS RECOGNIZED. WHATEVER PART YOU PLAYED IN MAKING THAT HAPPEN, AND THOSE THAT CAME BEFORE YOU, I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN AN EASY ROAD. IT HAS NOT, BUT HOPE IS ALWAYS THERE, AND FOR SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY BRING THAT TO YOUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE ABOUT TO CELEBRATE. WE HAVE THE GRAND OPENING OF OUR WELLNESS CENTER COMING, OF THE APARTMENTS. THE KIDS MUSEUM. I HAVE A LIST GOING ON HERE. I AM SO HAPPY. I'M TALKING SLOW, AND THAT IS NOT EASY FOR ME. I JUST WANT TO, WHEN YOU WALK AWAY AT THE END OF YOUR DAY, TO THINK JUST HOW HAPPY YOU MADE THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT. THIS IS WHY YOU SERVE, AND I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE UPS AND THE DOWNS, LIKE THEY HAVE IN PLACE IN PLACES LIKE WEST AUGUSTINE. SO, I CAN RELATE. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT CAN'T RELATE TO WEST AUGUSTINE, PLACES LIKE THAT, THINK ABOUT IT, WE HAD ALL OF THIS GROWTH GOING ON. DON'T DOUBT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT GOES UNNOTICED. IT HASN'T. WE ARE THE BUZZ. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 
          EIGHT? >> SUZANNE, 109 I HOPE THAT WHEN THIS PUBLIC COMMENT PART IS DONE, THAT SOMEONE WILL EXPLAIN TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY , WHAT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT FUND IS , BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW. I DIDN'T KNOW SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AGO WHAT THAT WAS, AND WHEN I FOUND OUT WHAT THAT WAS, I WAS SO EXCITED. WHEN I SAW WHAT THESE COMMUNITIES CAN DO WITH THE FUNDS THAT ARE SET ASIDE , JUST FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES, IT IS AMAZING. IT WAS SLOW GETTING STARTED , BECAUSE IT TOOK A WHILE FOR THE LEADERSHIP AT THESE VARIOUS ONES TO GET THEIR BEARINGS ON HOW TO DO THIS, BUT WHEN YOU SEE ALL OF THESE YEARS LATER WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO, AND YOU GO TO FLAGER ESTATES AND SEE ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THERE IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME WITH ALL OF THIS MONEY, AND VILANO BEACH, WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO, AND ESPECIALLY, WEST AUGUSTINE, BECAUSE MY HEART IS REALLY WITH THE LOWER SOCIOECONOMIC RESIDENTS OF OUR COUNTY. AND, WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO OVER IN THAT PART OF OUR COUNTY IS, TRULY, AMAZING. OF COURSE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS MY HEART OF HEARTS, BUT SO IS -- I WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE THAT SAT AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE 15 YEARS AGO TALKING ABOUT HOW WE NEEDED A CLINIC. THAT LITTLE CLINIC AND FINDING A PLACE FOR IT, AND RAISING THE MONEY FOR IT AND GETTING IT BUILT, IT IS JUST BUSTING AT THE SEAMS, AND NOW, TO SEE THAT WEST AUGUSTINE IS GOING TO HAVE AN EVEN BIGGER AND BETTER FACILITY , IS JUST , IT JUST MAKES ME SO HAPPY AND IT MAKES PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE GOING TO USE IT SO HAPPY TOO, AND THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING BUILT OUT THERE, THAT IS A GOOD PLACE FOR THEM AND I AM SO HAPPY THAT EVERYBODY HERE SAID YES, THAT IS A GOOD PLACE AND WE ARE GOING TO BUILD IT. I'M A LITTLE BIT DISAPPOINTED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED EARLIER TODAY, BUT THAT'S OKAY, I FORGIVE YOU ALL, I JUST DISAGREE WITH YOU. BUT ANYWAY, 
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WE NEED TO CONTINUE THESE FUNDS. AND, DO A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING TO PEOPLE WHAT THIS IS, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE 
          DON'T UNDERSTAND. >> WHEN ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 8? I AM SEEING THEM. WE 
          WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> BACK TO THE BOARD. 
          COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU CAN HAVE MONEY AND YOU CAN START THROWING IT AROUND, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE LIKE THOSE TWO WOMEN AND THEIR TEAMS , WORKING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH THAT, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, AND I ONLY STARTED LEARNING WHAT THEY ARE DOING TWO YEARS AGO, AND IN TWO YEARS, WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, THEY GOT A FOUNTAIN THAT WAS NEVER GOING TO WORK AGAIN, AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HELPED YOU GET IT GOING. JUST LITTLE THINGS, TOURING WHERE YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR CLINIC, IT HAS BEEN FANTASTIC AND I AM REALLY PROUD OF YOU GUYS. 
          >> COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> WE HEARD WHAT WONDERFUL THINGS HAVE HAPPENED AND ARE HAPPENING IN VILANO BEACH AND WEST AUGUSTINE, AND HASTINGS. THERE ARE SO MANY WONDERFUL THINGS , FLAGER ESTATES, THE FIRE STATIONS, THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, ET CETERA, WHAT IS HAPPENED WITH MAIN STREET AND HASTINGS IS EXTREMELY EXCITING. SOME OF YOU DON'T KNOW, THOSE ARE THE 348 WE HAVE , AND REALLY, SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD, I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THE LAST TWO YEARS. YOU HAVE BEEN SO ACTIVE IN BOTH THE HASTINGS PROJECT AND WEST AUGUSTINE. AT SOME POINT, YOU SHOULD RECEIVE A GOLD MEDAL , BUT NEVERTHELESS , THE THREE CRAS ARE GOING ON ALL CYLINDERS . I THINK THAT WE HAVE RECOGNIZED THE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE UNINCORPORATED AREAS , REALLY, SMALL TOWNS WITHIN OUR COUNTY. I HAD TO THROW IN A PLUG. 
          >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. >> QUICK,, DON'T CUT YOURSELF SHORT, COMMISSIONER DEAN. MAIN STREET WOULD NOT BE WHAT IT IS WITHOUT SOME OF YOUR HELP AND PARTNERSHIPS, SO KUDOS TO YOU TOO. MR. DUNN, WILL YOU PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT, WHAT IS A CRA AND WHAT IS THE FUND? 
          >> YES, COMMISSIONER, I SEE THREE ATTORNEYS EVER HEAR THAT MAY BE ABLE TO GIVE A BETTER DESCRIPTION. THIS COMMISSION IN 2002, THROUGH SEVEN CRAS, A COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, THEY ARE DEDICATED AS AREAS THAT HAVE NECESSITATED IMPROVEMENTS . THEY ARE USED FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. IN OUR PARTICULAR CASE, WE UTILIZE TAX FINANCING. WE CARVE A PORTION OUT OF COMPANY TAX TO REINVEST BACK INTO THAT COMMUNITY, AND THEN WE USE THOSE TAX DOLLARS , IN OUR CASE, WE BORROW FOR IMPROVEMENTS , THE COUNTY DID, AND THE CRA PAID US BACK FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND PROPERTY VALUATIONS. CRA, THERE WAS A FULL REDESIGNATION OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY WAS DOING, AND THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING SOME DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE. NOT THE MOST EXCITING, BUT THERE WAS A SIDEWALK PLAN , AND PLANS AND VISIONING FOR THAT AREA. FLAGER ESTATES, SOME OF THE ROADWAY AND LIGHT IMPROVEMENTS FOR WEST AUGUSTINE, IT WAS A HOST OF ITEMS, AND I HOPE THAT I DON'T MISS ANY OF THE CRAS, BUT LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS , AS WELL AS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE INAUDIBLE ] CENTER. THESE WERE DESIGNATED FOR THREE YEARS. 
          THEY ARE PAYING THE DEBTS ON THOSE , ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGIN OF THIS, WE ARE SEEING VALUATION IMPROVEMENTS IN EACH ONE OF THOSE CRA AREAS. COUNTY 
          ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? >> NOT MUCH TO REPORT. UNDER THE STATUTE , EACH YEAR WHEN YOU APPROVE THE THREE-YEAR DEVELOPMENT AGENCY, IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH PROJECTS. IT'S A MECHANISM TO KEEP YOU ON TRACK AND GET PROJECTS APPROVED ON A YEARLY BASIS 
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          >> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO OFFER A MOTION TO APPROVE THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY 2025 ANNUAL BUDGET. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          [9. Consider appointments to the Health & Human Services Advisory Council (HHSAC). The Health and Human Services Advisory Council's purpose is to evaluate human services programs in the community to ensure that the needs of the residents of St. Johns County are met. Currently, there are two (2) vacancies due to the expired terms of Charles Daly and Kathleen Patneau. A vacancy ad was placed and ran for (60) days. Please find attached for your review and consideration, a letter of recommendation from HHSAC and (11) applications: Deanna Jones Dist. 2, Kayla Collins Dist. 3, Marvell Ford Dist. 3, Kathleen Patneau Dist. 4, Robert Douglas Will Dist. 4, Claudia Costello Dist. 5, Andrea Lyles Dist. 5, Matthew Ohlson Dist. 5, Michelle Gonzalez Dist. 5, Nicole Patalano-Bice Dist. 5, Raj Vavilala Dist. 5.]
THAT PASSES 5-0. INC. YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, I HEREBY ADJOURN US AS THE ST. JOHNS THREE , AND RECONVENE US AS THE ST. JOHNS BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS MEETING. ITEM 9. SPENCER. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. THIS SHOULD BE QUICK. I AM HERE TODAY TO CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL. THESE VACANCIES ARE DUE TO THE EXPIRED TERMS OF CHARLES DALY AND KATHLEEN PATNEAU. PLEASE FIND ATTACHED FOR YOUR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION, 
          AM ON STANDBY. >> ANY QUESTIONS? 
          >> I WILL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING AGENDA ITEM 9. I AM SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          >> I AM HAPPY TO OFFER A MOTION TO REAPPOINT KATHLEEN PATNEAU , FOR A TERM TO EXPIRE SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2028. A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0. 
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SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2028. 
          >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          AND, THAT PASSES 5-0. CONCLUDING OUR REGULAR AGENDA. 
          >> WE WILL NOW OPEN IT UP TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND YOU HAVE THREE 
          MINUTES. >> I FORGOT I HAD SOMETHING. 
          1005 BLACKBERRY LANE. JUST A SECOND. THANK YOU. THERE WE GO. 
          SO, AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING , TOWN HALL, AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER THEY WILL BRING US SOME GOOD INFORMATION AFTER GATHERING SO MUCH DATA FROM COMMUNITY MEETINGS. I PUT A RED DOT APPEAR WITH THE QUESTION, WHERE WOULD YOU PLACE 50,000 HOMES? THINK ABOUT THAT 
          FOR JUST A MOMENT. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY FLAGLER 
          COUNTY. >> GOOD ANSWER. AND, LOOK HERE. 
          I WAS WITH THESE PEOPLE AND OTHERS, AND GOD BLESS THEM ALL. 
          WHERE WOULD YOU PLACE 50,000 HOMES? THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKED, THAT'S WHAT ALL RESIDENTS WERE ASKED IN THESE MEETINGS. WE WERE GIVEN A LITTLE RED DOT, AND WITH THAT QUESTION, WHERE WOULD YOU PUT THIS RED DOT THAT REPRESENTS 50,000 HOMES? THAT LITTLE TINY.. GOD BLESS THESE PEOPLE FOR TRYING. BUT, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? HOW WOULD YOU RESPOND QUICKLY TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? FIRST OF ALL, YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASSUME IT IS A VALID QUESTION. 50,000 ARE COMING. WELL, WE KNOW THAT MORE THAN 50,000 ARE COMING, BUT WITHOUT INFORMATION ON INFRASTRUCTURE, ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE , THINKING ABOUT ROADS AND SCHOOLS, WITHOUT ANY PRE-INFORMATION ABOUT PRESERVATION, SPECIAL AREAS THAT NEED TO BE PRESERVED. IT JUST SEEMED TO BE A LOADED QUESTION, AND MY ONLY REASON FOR BRINGING THAT UP, WHERE WOULD YOU PLACE 50,000 HOMES? MY ONLY REASON FOR BRINGING THAT UP IS THAT IT WILL BRING US A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION, AND LET'S JUST BE CAREFUL THAT IF ANY OF THAT INFORMATION IS, THE MAJORITY OF YOUR RESIDENTS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY THINK THE DENSITY WILL BE OKAY HERE AND HERE , WE NEED TO GIVE THAT SOME STRONG CONSIDERATION. WE CAN'T JUST TRUST THAT TWO MINUTES AT A TOWN HALL, COMING 
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FROM DINNER WILL GIVE YOU ENOUGH INFORMATION TO RELATE MAKE INTELLIGENT, INFORMED DECISIONS. I LOOK FORWARD TO INFORMATION FROM INSPIRE, BUT I WANTED TO 
          LET'S BE CAREFUL. THANK YOU. >> A LONG MEETING, THANK YOU 
          FOR YOUR VOTE EARLIER, 4-1. >> CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND 
          ADDRESS? >> YOU DON'T KNOW ME? 
          >> NO. >> YOU FORGET. ED SLAVERY. 
          ALEXANDER, WHAT HE DID WAS AN ACT OF COURAGE TO EVERYBODY IN ST. JOHNS, INCLUDING THIS BOARD. HE STOOD UP FOR THE RIGHTS OF AFRICAN AMERICANS AND PEOPLE IN ST. JOHNS. YOU NEED TO HAVE A THOROUGH MANAGEMENT AUDIT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT IS BEING DONE TO PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN TACTICS , ESPECIALLY MS. CROSBY. MS. CROSBY ATTACKED COMMISSIONER DEAN . HIS WIFE GAVE MONEY TO ACTUAL DEMOCRATS. SHE ATTACKED HIM FOR SUPPORTING GAY PRIDE. THAT WAS WRONG, EVIL AND MALICIOUS. 
          CLIENTS? LIQUOR COMPANIES ? SHE WON'T TELL ME. I WANT TO KNOW , AND I'M GOING TO FIND OUT, BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT CHARACTER . 
          POLITICS IS ABOUT CHARACTER . ANYWAY , 903 DAYS AGO , I ASKED THE COMMISSIONERS , SEVERAL OF WHOM ARE STILL HERE TO CONSIDER SOME PROPOSALS ON PREDECESSORS REJECTED SIX TIMES BEFORE FOR MANY STATE COMMISSIONERS HAVE EVER RESPONDED TO ME? TALKED TO ME? SHERIFF ROBBIE HARWOOD. BODY CAMERAS FOR POLICE OFFICERS. HE LEGALLY CHANGED HIS NAME FROM NARRATIVE -- THE SHERIFF HAS BODY CAMERAS. THANK GOD. THINK OF ALL OF THE HARM THAT IS BEING PREVENTED AND ALL OF THE RIGHTS BEING PROTECTED, BOTH FOR THE OFFICERS AND CITIZENS BECAUSE HE DID THAT. LET'S LOOK AT THE OTHER 24 IDEAS AND PUT THEM ON THE AGENDA IN NOVEMBER. THANK YOU AGAIN, 
          [Commissioners’ Reports]
          COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST . >> WHEN ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? GOING ONCE. TWICE. CLOSE. PUBLIC 
          COMMENT IS CLOSED. >> BACK TO THE BOARD, COMMISSIONER REPORTS. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. 
          >> OKAY, I REALLY DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING, BUT AFTER HEARING ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST GIVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITH -- EVERYONE ELSE GAVE THEIR LIFE STORIES, BUT I DECIDED I WANTED TO GO LOOK AT STOVES LANDING. IT'S WORKFORCE HOUSING, RIGHT OFF OF U.S. 1, BRAND-NEW, EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT, SO I THOUGHT, OKAY, AND I WENT IN THERE AS A CUSTOMER. IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. IT WAS VERY WELL LAID OUT. YOU GET A LOT OF VALUE. IT WAS ABOUT $237,000. AND, I ASKED THE SALESPERSON, HOW IS IT GOING? ARE YOU SELLING? SHE SAID, YEAH, WE ARE SELLING THE WORKFORCE HOUSING. IT'S DOING WELL. I GO, ARE THEY TEACHERS? SHE SAID, WELL, YEAH, BUT WE DID HAVE A GENTLEMAN COME IN AND BUY FOUR OF THE 
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THREE-BEDROOM ONES, AND HE'S GOING TO RENT THEM OUT. SO, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU KEEP THE WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR THE WORKFORCE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN OWN HOUSE AND NOT HAVE TO RENT A ROOM? SO, THERE IS THAT THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT DOWN THE ROAD, AND IT WAS A GOOD PRODUCT THOUGH, AND IT WAS RIGHT ON U.S. 1, WHICH MAKES SENSE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO 
          SAY. >> COMMISSIONER ALAIMO. 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. PUBLIC SAFETY IS ALWAYS A TOP PRIORITY, AND THIS WEEKEND , SEPTEMBER 7TH, THEY ARE DOING A GRAND OPENING AT FIRE STATION 11 IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OPERATIONS CENTER. I THINK THIS IS REALLY GOING TO BE GREAT FOR THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY. 
          GOOD RESPONSE TIME, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY. I KNOW THE CHIEF ALREADY ANNOUNCED IT. IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT EVENT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >> I'VE GOT A FEW THINGS, MADAM CHAIR. ONE IS, I WANT TO RECOMMEND, I THINK EVERY MEMBER OF THIS BOARD DESERVES CREDIT FOR SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON THIS BOARD MADE SOME COMMENT OR STATEMENT, BUT PARTICULARLY, OUR CHAIR , YOU LED THE CHARGE, YOU WERE OUT IN FRONT. NOT ONLY DID YOU SPEAK WITH SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA, A PRESS CONFERENCE REPRESENTING THE LORD, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THAT ISSUE. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A SINGLE PERSON THAT THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA. IT WAS NOT A CONTROVERSIAL POSITION TO TAKE TO OPPOSE IT , BUT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, GOOD JOB. SECONDLY, I AM A MEMBER OF THE REGIONAL COUNCIL GOVERNANCE BOARD, AND THAT BOARD, THIS YEAR WE HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF MAY KNOW, BUT FOR THOSE THAT DON'T, WE PAY DUES INTO THE REGIONAL COUNCIL. I THINK IT HAS BEEN A POINT OF EMPHASIS FOR THE COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT. I'M PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO BRING TO YOU THIS RETURN ON INVESTMENT SHEET. WE ARE GIVING $11 BACK FOR EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND. THIS COMES TO US IN THE FORM OF AN ANNUAL HURRICANE EXERCISE, AND SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER, SWAT ANALYSIS, AND A NUMBER OF OTHER GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT HAVE ASSISTED OUR STAFF. OUR STAFF IS ALWAYS OVERWHELMED, ALWAYS SHORTHANDED , I SHOULD SAY. 11-1 ROI. THE LAST THING, THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN TEXTING -- GOD BLESS HER FOR SITTING OUT THE ENTIRE MEETING. WE DISCUSSED HAVING A SIGN LANGUAGE INTERPRETER COME TO THESE MEETINGS. THERE ARE OTHER MEMBERS FROM AROUND THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE ASKED FOR A SIGN LANGUAGE INTERPRETER. I HAVE DISCUSSED THAT WITH STAFF. 
          JUST AS A POINT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS BOARD, IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? ROUGHLY $75 AN HOUR IT WOULD TAKE TO PROVIDE AN INTERPRETER TO BE HERE FOR THOSE WHO MAY NEED THE SERVICE. 
          JUST SOMETHING TO DISCUSS. WE CAN BRING IT BACK LATER TO VOTE ON, BUT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED , I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO BRING IT FORWARD FOR US TO VOTE ON IF NECESSARY. 
          >> WE HAD A GENTLEMAN WITH US TODAY THAT WAS ASKING. 
          OBVIOUSLY, US COMMUNICATING TO HIM TALKED WITH 
          >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, IS THERE ANY REASON NOT TO LOOK ON 
          THIS? >> I BROUGHT IT UP IN THE 
          BEGINNING ABOUT A YEAR AGO. >> I FORGOT. YOU DID. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THIS, LOOKING AT IT? ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA, I THINK WE SHOULD ADOPT 
          IT. >> I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAVE STAYED UNTIL THE BITTER END. I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND COMMENTS EARLIER TODAY, AND I WANTED TO DO THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT . ALSO, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR PRIMARY VICTORY. INDIVIDUALLY, I THOUGHT THE FIGHT WAS VERY CLEAN AND A RESPECTABLE FIGHT. BUT, NEVERTHELESS, I WANT TO ALSO SAY AGAIN THAT THE WELLNESS CENTER OR THE MEDICAL CLINIC IN SAINT AUGUSTINE , THAT IS SEPTEMBER 13TH AT 10:00 A.M. , AND IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY FANTASTIC CELEBRATION , 
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THAT WE SO DESPERATELY NEEDED. WHEN WE COMBINE THAT WITH THE BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM , I JUST THINK THAT WEST AUGUSTINE HAS NEVER BEEN IN THIS POSITION. WE ARE MOVING AHEAD . IT ALMOST 
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          MAKES YOU TEAR UP. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN. THOSE WERE ALL OF MY TALKING POINTS. I GUESS I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS, WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE PIER. I GUESS IT'S AN UNSAFE CONDITION THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. 
          >> YES, MADAM CHAIR. AT THIS TIME, WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A COMPLETE RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU, BUT OVER THE WEEKEND, WE HAVE DISCUSSED AND PROVIDED UPDATES TO EACH OF YOU TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE AWARE OF THE UNSAFE CONDITIONS WE ARE UNDER. 
          RYAN AND HIS TEAM AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THEY RESPONDED REALLY QUICKLY TO SECURE THE SECTION OF THE PIER THAT WAS UNSAFE. AT THIS TIME, WE DON'T HAVE SAFETY CONCERNS, BUT WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO ASK FOR YOUR DIRECTIONS ON, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE VISION FOR THE PIER? WE ARE REACHING A POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS , ON HOW WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A REINVESTMENT IN THIS VERY ICONIC INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT IS KIND OF MY UPDATE. IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS , HE IS PREPARED TO 
          RESPOND. >> WE ARE STILL DOING RESEARCH ABOUT WHAT COST IS GOING TO BE. 
          >> THE COST ANALYSIS WE HAD WAS CLOSE TO $6 MILLION. IT HAS ONLY GONE. WE WILL BRING BACK MORE DETAILED INFORMATION SO 
          YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, WHY DIDN'T WE RECOGNIZE THESE ISSUES WHEN WE DID 
          >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, WE DO INSPECT THE PIER BY ANNUALLY. 
          THEY DO IT WITH A DIVE TEAM, TYPICALLY. THE LAST INSPECTION HAD GONE THROUGH, AND THERE WERE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS -- A LITTLE BIT WAS ABLE TO BE SEEN BY THE EYE, SO IT IS, CERTAINLY, EXPOSED NOW THAT YOU CAN WALK UNDERNEATH IT AND SEE IT. THERE WERE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO THE FACILITY MAINTENANCE TEAM. WE BROUGHT IN STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS TO EVALUATE , AND THEY CAME BACK THE REPORT , AND MADE THE DECISION TO CLOSE THAT SECTION. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES YOUR REPORT? 
          >> I JUST HAVE A VERY QUICK BRIEF UPDATE. THIS IS THE INAUDIBLE ] TRAIL. VERY BRIEFLY, JUST A REMINDER , THE BOARD ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR. WE DO HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT IS GOING TO TURN OUT IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR. AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE STILL NOT RECEIVED FROM DEP THE NOTICE . THE CONSTRUCTION, JUST IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS. THE CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME IS ABOUT 152 DAYS, SO WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO REALIZE THIS GRANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROJECT. AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR YOUR THOUGHTS AND CONSIDERATION , AS A BOARD , TO AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SEND A LETTER, INQUIRY AND ADVOCACY FOR DEP -- I DON'T EVEN KNOW, IT'S TOO LATE TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS, BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. A LITTLE BIT OF COMPLEXITY IN THAT IS THE DEP IS HELD BACK BY THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE THE NOTICE TO PROCEED IS FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD -- AS PART OF THIS CONSIDERATION, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COMMISSIONERS SEND A LETTER TO CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS. THANK YOU. 
          >> COMMISSIONER DEAN. YOUR BUTTON WAS ON. 
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          >> I WILL SAY THIS, I THINK THAT THE SECRETARY OF THE DEP , THEY ARE PRETTY CLOSE. MAYBE SHE CAN 
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          HELP MOVE THE NEEDLE. >> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          >> I THINK THE 
          >> DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO SEND
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