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[Call meeting to order]

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO GET STARTED. WELCOME, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN TO THE JULY 18TH, PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING. WE WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR

ALL. >> DR. HILSENBECK, WILL YOU PLEASE READ THE PUBLIC NOTICE STATEMENT?

>> I SHALL. LET ME PUT MY GLASSES ON. THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN CONCURRENCE WITH REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW. THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN A OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TO THE AGENCIES JURISDICTION AND BEGIN AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER COMMENT AT THE DESIGNATED TIME DURING THE HEARING. THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIME DURING THE MEETING ON EACH ITEM AND FOR LENGTH OF TIME AS DOES NEED BY THE CHAIRMAN, WHICH SHALL BE THREE MINUTES. SPEAKERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, WHO THEY REPRESENT , AND THEN STATE THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SPEAKERS MAY OFFER A SWORN TESTIMONY. IF THEY DO NOT, THE TESTIMONY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED BY THE AGENCY IN DETERMINING THE WEIGHT OR TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY. IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE WITH RESPECT TO ANY MATTER , SUCH PERSON WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MADE TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE WITH THE RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE OF WHICH THE APPEAL IS WHICH TO BE BASED. ANY DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE DURING THE HEARING SUCH AS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS, PHOTOGRAPHS, OR WRITTEN STATEMENTS SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE COURT FOR INCLUSION INTO THE RECORD. THE RECORD WILL THEN BE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER BOARD AGENCY COMMITTEE OR THE COUNTY AND REVIEW OF APPEAL RELATING TO THEM. AGENCY MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT THE BEGINNING OF EACH ITEM THAT YOU STATE WHETHER THEY HAD ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT OR ANY OTHER PERSON REGARDING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ITEM OUTSIDE THE FORMATTED HEARING OF THE AGENCY. SUCH COMMUNICATION HAS OCCURRED, THE AGENCY MEMBERS SHOULD NOW IDENTIFY THE PERSONS INVOLVED AND MATERIAL CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION. CIVILITY CLAUSE.

WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE.

WE WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THE ISSUES. WE WILL AVOID

PERSONAL ATTACKS. >> THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU HAVE GOT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT, YOU CAN TALK NOW OR IF

[1. TUP 2024-01 The PLAYERS Championship Parking. Request to extend the previously approved Temporary Use Permit (TUP 2013-04) for The PLAYERS Championship Temporary Parking Lot, and access to Roscoe Boulevard and Solana Road via private easement annually during the 12-day PLAYERS Championship at Sawgrass. The Temporary Use Permit shall be for a maximum of 12 days per year, beginning in March 2025 for a period of ten (10) years, generally located along the private easement east of N. Roscoe Blvd., north of Palm Valley Road, and south of Solana Road.]

YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO A PARTICULAR ITEM ON THE AGENDA, YOU CAN COME UP AT THAT TIME. SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL MOVE ON.

AS A NOTE, THE REZONING 2023 -20 AS YOUR LAKES WILL NOT BE HURT TODAY SO IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THAT, THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED TO AUGUST 1ST A COUPLE OF WEEKS. SO, WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER ONE . ANY MEMBERS HAVE

ANYTHING TO SAY? >> YES, MR. CHAIR. I DID RECEIVE A PHONE CALL BUT WE DID NOT ACTUALLY SPEAK.

>> I SPOKE WITH ELLEN AVERY SMITH BRIEFLY -- WELL, WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THE ITEM. I SAID WE DID NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. FOR THE OTHER ISSUE IS WEDNESDAY OF NEXT

WEEK? >> I WILL CALL YOU ABOUT IT.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >>

>> WE LEFT A MESSAGE AND NEVER GOT BACK IN TOUCH.

>> I HAVE ACTUALLY SPOKE TO HER WITHOUT HAVING TO CALL HER BACK WHICH IS GOOD FOR ME AND WE DISCUSSED THE MERITS OF THE ITEM THAT WE AGREED FOR THE ORGANIZATION PTA TOUR.

>> I TOO SPOKE WITH MR. BEARD >> THANK YOU. ST. AUGUSTINE AND I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PGA TOUR AND THE TOURNAMENT PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP. AND SO WE WANT TO WALK-THROUGH JUST BRIEFLY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE APPARENTLY A SHORT AGENDA BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAD ALL

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THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE REQUEST FOR THIS TEMPORARY USE PERMIT.

JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE TOURNAMENT HIGHLIGHTS OF 2024, IT DID CELEBRATE THE 50TH EDITION OF THE PLAYERS .

PLAYERS OVER THAT TIME , HAVE CONTRIBUTED ABOUT $234 MILLION TO THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IN OUR REGION AND PROVIDES MONEY TO ABOUT 300 CHARITY ORGANIZATIONS RECEIVING ALMOST $220 MILLION OVER THAT 50 YEARS. THIS YEAR IN 2024, AND RECORD ATTENDANCE ON SATURDAY, IT WAS A SELLOUT. THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT TO THE TOURNAMENT. HOPEFULLY, YOU WILL ENJOY IT AGAIN FOR YEARS TO COME. THE TOURNAMENT DATE FOR 2025 ARE THE 11 TO 16 TO 2025. JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC AND HOW TO AVOID IT. BUT WHILE WE'RE HERE IS TO AVOID TRAFFIC THIS WEEKEND. SO, SOME OF THE TOURNAMENT HIGHLIGHTS YOU CAN SEE ALL THE BEAUTIFUL PHOTOGRAPHS OF ALL THE EVENTS THAT GO ON DURING THE TOURNAMENT WEEK, AND THEN AGAIN, THE TOURNAMENT IS CONDUCTED EACH YEAR . CURRENTLY SCHEDULED IN MARCH. A LOT OF THIS DETAIL IS IN THE NARRATIVE FOR THE TEMPORARY USE PERMIT, WHICH IS IN YOUR APPLICATION PACKAGE AND YOUR STAFF REPORT. OBVIOUSLY, THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THE TOURNAMENT. IT DOES OCCUR TECHNICALLY DURING A 12 DAY PERIOD , SO THAT IS ONE OF THE TEMPORARY USE PERMIT IS REQUESTED FOR 12 DAYS, AS A VERY NO, MOST ATTENDANCE IS TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE HONEST, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FOR SETUP , VOLUNTER AND ALL THOSE THINGS DURING THE ENTIRE 12 DAYS. THERE IS A NEED FOR TEMPORARY PARKING, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE OF THE HUGE INFLUX AND OUTGO OF PEOPLE FROM THE BEACH DURING THE TOURNAMENT AND SO THIS TEMPORARY USE PERMIT THAT WE ARE ASKING THE EXTENDED HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS. WE ARE ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION FOR 10 YEARS FOR THE EXACT SAME THING. WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS REALLY THE USE OF -- YOU ALL KNOW THE PARKING AREAS ALONG PALM VALLEY ROAD.

AND THEN, THERE IS A POWER LINE EASEMENT THAT ACTUALLY RUNS DOWN PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED BY THE SAWGRASS PLAYERS CLUB MASTERS ASSOCIATION AND THE MASTERS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR THE SAWGRASS PLAYERS CLUB ACTUALLY OWNS THE UNDERLYING FEET. IT IS A POWER LINE EASEMENT. AND SO THE IDEA IS TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THESE LOTS GOING DOWN THAT POWER LINE EASEMENT, WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO GO OUT TO ROSCOE AND THEN SOLANA ROAD. IN ADDITION, AS YOU ALL KNOW ON PALM VALLEY ROAD OR A1 A OR GTB DURING THE TOURNAMENT, THIS IS A NECESSARY LIFELINE TO REALLY GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT. AND WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WHO WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MINUTE. AGAIN, ALL OF THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE IN THE PACKAGE, SO THEY ARE BINDING UPON THIS APPLICATION, BUT AGAIN, THE TOUR HAS TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE SIGNAGE TO DIRECT VEHICLES INTO AND OUT OF THE SITE . THE TRAFFIC IS COORDINATED WITH THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR TRAFFIC AND BOTH WAYS, ANY DAMAGE DONE TO THE COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY OR RIGHT OF WAY HAS TO BE REPLACED -- HAS TO BE REPAIRED, I'M SORRY, OR REPLACED AT THE EXPENSE OF THE TOUR. AT NIGHT, THE GATES ARE LOCKED AND SO PEOPLE CANNOT USE THAT POWER LINE EASEMENT WHEN THE TOURNAMENT IS NOT IN PLAY, IF YOU WILL, AND AGAIN, EASEMENT WILL BE VALID FOR A 12 DAY PERIOD. IF THE TOURNAMENT CHANGES FROM MAY ABLE OR WHATEVER THERE IS THAT CAVEAT REQUIREMENT THAT IT BE A 12 DAY PERIOD. ONE TIME PER YEAR. SO, THERE IS THAT. HERE IS THE LETTER FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BASICALLY SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS TEMPORARY USE PERMIT , THIS ADDITIONAL ACCESS IS DESPERATELY NEEDED FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL AND TRAFFIC FLOW IN THE AREA DURING THE TOURNAMENT TIME. THAT LETTER IS IN YOUR PACKAGE BY THE WAY. ALSO, YOU SEE JUST A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT, OKAY, WHEN YOU ARE EXITING HOW THE TRAFFIC FLOWS INTO THE POWER LINE EASEMENT AND OUT OF IT AND THEN, COMING INTO THE TOURNAMENT, HOW IT FLOWS. AND SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU HAVE GOT ANY QUESTIONS, THESE LET ME KNOW. I HAVE GOT EACH GENTLEMAN BEHIND ME WHO CAN ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS I HAVE THAT I AM NOT GIMBAL OF ANSWERING. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

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>> I HAVE GOT ONE. >> YES, SIR.

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IS A 12 DAY PERIOD FOR THE PLAYERS, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE A SPECIFIC DATE AND YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THINGS ARE CHANGING. OKAY. AND I NEVER REALIZED THAT THAT ROAD ALSO FED IN. I MEAN, WHEN I HAVE LEFT AT PLAYERS, I HAVE TAKEN THE EASEMENT OUT THROUGH PALM VALLEY'S TO GET BACK BUT WHEN I COME IN, I NEVER REALIZED THAT YOU COME IN THROUGH THAT WAY. SO IT IS IN AND OUT?

>> IT IS IN AND OUT WHEN IT IS NEEDED AND SO YOU WILL KNOW THAT TRICK WITH NEXT TIME YOU GO.

>> I APPRECIATE IT. I COME IN ONE WAY AND WHILE ANOTHER SO I LEARNED SOMETHING UP HERE TODAY.

>> TRAFFIC WAY BECAUSE IT JUST LETS MORE CARS MOVE.

>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR

THE RECORD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. CAPTAIN TREY. SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 5125 SILO ROAD ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK REALLY QUICK. I AM THE INCIDENT COMMANDER FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE INVOLVEMENT IN TBC AND PGA. WE WERE CANDID WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. WE HAD A POSITION IN THE LAST FIVE TOURNAMENT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT A TOTAL OF 2220. HAVING THE ABILITY TO GO USE THIS EASEMENT, NUMBER ONE, FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECT. NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE OUR TRAFFIC PATTERNS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER AND BUILT . WITH THIS IN MIND, FOR USE, AND ALSO, SHOULD WE HAVE ANY MAJOR EVENT OR EMERGENCY TYPE EVENT HAPPEN, WE USE THESE AREAS FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS OF OUR EMERGENCY VEHICLES. I DO KNOW, AS WE ALL DO, THAT THIS TIME OF YEAR, THAT TIME OF YEAR IS VERY CUMBERSOME AND WE HAVE SOME WORKING WITH THE TPC STAFF WITH PRETTY GOOD TRAFFIC PATTERNS IN PLACE. ONE WORKED OUT VERY WELL FOR US AND HAVING THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE THIS HAS MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. FIRST AND FOREMOST FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. OKAY. WE ARE BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE TUP 2024-01 PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP PARKING SUBJECT TO 11 CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED WITHIN

[2. SUPMIN 2024-04 Murray-Gonzales Flores Mobile Home. Request for a Special Use Permit to allow for a Manufactured/Mobile Home as a residence in Residential, Single Family (RS-3) zoning, pursuant to Land Development Code, Section 2.03.08., specifically located at 200 N. Brevard St. (Part 1 of 2)]

THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> SECONDED BY HARRY. >> OKAY. REGISTER YOUR VOTE.

THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM

TWO. MR. BATTEGIER? >>

SPEAKERS ] >> YES, SIR. EYESIGHT VISITED

AND SPOKE WITH MR. BATTEGIER. >> THANK YOU.

[3. SUPMAJ 2024-08 Outback Crab Shack. Request for a Special Use Permit to allow for on-premise consumption of alcoholic beverages under the regulation of a State of Florida Type 4COP/SFS beverage license pursuant to Land Development Code Section 2.03.02 specifically located at 8155 County Road 13 North.]

>> YES, SIR. I ALSO DID A SITE VISIT.

>> OKAY. >> MR. CHAIR? POSSIBILITY THAT THE APPLICANT IS NOT PRESENT AT THIS POINT AND SO YOU MAY DECIDE TO PUSH THIS ITEM BACK IF THE IMPACT IS NOT HERE.

>> THAT IS PROBABLY A GOOD SUGGESTION. RIGHT ON TO ITEM THREE. MR. STEWART? ANY EXPERTISE TO DECLARE ON THIS?

>> YES. >> YES, SIR, I ALSO DID THIS

ITEM. >> OKAY.

>> AFTERNOON. I AM MIKE BROWN 4887 VICTOR STREET JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. AND HERE TO REPRESENT NATHAN STEWART AND HIS FAMILY FOR THE BOATHOUSE RESTAURANTS. INCLUDING THIS ONE. WE ARE HERE THIS AFTERNOON REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO REINSTATE THE ALCOHOL LICENSE . THIS HAS BEEN AT THE FACILITY SINCE ITS CONCEPTION . MAY I MOVE THE SLIDES? AS AN

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INITIAL REVIEW OF THIS SLIDE, SEE WHAT OUTBACK IS LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF THE STATE ROAD 16 LINE THAT COMES IN THEIR COMING IN FROM THE EAST WHERE IT INTERSECTS STATE ROAD 13 THAT IS LOCATED ON SIX MILE CREEK. IT IS THE ONLY BUSINESS OR BUILDING IN THAT GENERAL FACILITY ALONG THE CREEK . THE NEXT IMPROVEMENTS FOLLOW SOUTH WHERE YOU SEEP BUT HE BOYS COUNTRY STORE AND JOE ASHTON ROAD WHERE IT COMES TO STATE ROAD 13. THE VIEW TO THE LEFT IS A VIEW ON SIX MILL CREEK LOOKING DOWN TO THE DOCK ON THE RESTAURANT DOWN ON THE FAR LEFT. YOU SEE HERE, HERITAGE LENDING IS THE CLOSEST COMMUNITY TO OUR NORTHEAST. THIS IS JUST A SIMPLE SNAPSHOT TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHAT WAS THERE. THE ORIGINAL OUTBACK CRAB SHACK INITIALLY STARTED BACK IN THE 1900S AND A VERY, VERY WELL ATTENDED POPULAR PLACE FOR BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND, AS YEARS WENT ON AND THE FRIED PLATTER THAT YOU SEE IN THE CENTER OF THE SCREEN GOT BIGGER, IT BECAME AN INSTITUTION JUST LIKE CLOCKS FISH COUNT. EVERYBODY THAT CAME INTO TOWN SAID THEY WANT TO GO TO OUTBACK CRAB SHACK AND SO THE RACE WAS ON TO GET IN LINE TO WAIT 45 MINUTES TO HAVE THOSE MEALS THAT WERE WONDERFUL AND SCRUMPTIOUS. SO THESE SHOTS ARE FROM THE ORIGINAL FACILITY THAT WAS THERE. THIS IS AN OVERHEAD AERIAL THAT WE PULLED OFF OF GOOGLE. WE RESEARCH ALL OF THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE FACILITY TRYING TO OUTLINE, BASICALLY, WHAT THE PARKING AND THE BOLD PARAMETER THAT IS MOST SIMILAR TO WHAT HAS BEEN REDEVELOPED TODAY. 2005, HERE IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE PARKING LOT . THERE IS ROUGHLY 40 PEOPLE OF THE LOT. 12 BOATS DOCKED AND THEY WERE SERVING LUNCH THAT DAY AND YOU CAN SEE IN THIS SHOT, THE SHAPE OF THE BUILDING, POSITION OF THE BUILDING, AND THE POSITION OF THE PARKING LOT ABSENT AIDING RETENTION AND CODE COMPLIANT THINGS WE DO IN THE COUNTY. THIS NEXT SHOT , UNFORTUNATELY, IS THE AFTERMATH OF IRMA. YOU CAN SEE THE ENTIRE SITE WAS FLOODED. THE BUILDING AND VARIOUS ASPECTS OF IT WERE DESTROYED , ESSENTIALLY , AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE UPPER RIGHT-HAND PICTURE, THE NEXT STEP WAS TOTAL REMOVAL OF THE BUILDING DUE TO THE STORM AND THE FLOODING THAT OCCURRED. THE DOCTOR STILL STAYED INTACT BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL FLOATING DOCKS. INCOME THIS LEHMAN COMPANY. TONY'S LEHMAN AND HIS TEAM PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND RESURRECTED IT TO ITS GLORY TODAY , INCLUDING CODE COMPLIANT MEASURES THAT RAISE THE BUILDING UP TO THE POINT WHERE WE NO LONGER HAVE TO HAVE TIGHT TABLES IN THE KITCHEN AND THE PARKING LOT AS WELL. THE PARKING LOT NOW IS PAVED, COMPLIANT WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY LANDSCAPE CODE, INGRESS AND INGRESS EGRESS AND BUT IT WILL BE SAFE AREA. PARTICULARLY BACK IN THE DAYS WHEN I REMEMBER TAKING MY MOTORCYCLE BACK IN THE MUDDY PARKING LOT. PARKING WAS NOT FUN. WITH THIS PHOTOGRAPH YOU SEE HERE, THE DECK IS HERE TO THE SOUTH/SOUTHWEST IN YOUR LOWER LEFT CORNER AND THE LARGER PICTURE TO THE RIGHT. IT IS NOW COVERED . WHERE THE PREVIOUS BUILDING HAD LIMITED COVERAGE, MR. SLAYMAN AND HIS TEAM THOUGHT THIS OUT VERY WELL .

OBVIOUSLY, THEIR PORTFOLIO CONTAINS A LOT OF SUCCESSFUL RESTAURANTS AND THEY KNOW HOW TO BUILD A RESTAURANT BUILDING AND THAT IS WHAT THEY ENDEAVORED HERE. SHORTLY AFTER CONSTRUCTION HAD FINISHED, THOUGH, THE SHELL, WE RAN INTO SOME ADDITIONAL ISSUES WITH THE PILINGS AND SO, THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE INTERIOR WERE PUT ON HOLD UNTIL SOME OF THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE SUCCESSFULLY. THEY ARE NOW COMPLETED WITH THEM AND OUR CLIENT HAS GONE INSIDE AND WE HAVE FINISHED THE INTERIOR OF IT AND WE HAVE HAD ALL THE APPROVALS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY AWAITING TO OPENING THE SPACE.

THIS IS A CURRENT AERIAL VIEW FOR THE MOST PART. YOU CAN SEE THE OVERHEAD VIEW REFLECTS 72 GUEST PARKING SPACES ON SITE.

WE HAVE FOUR EMPLOYEE PARKING AREAS IN THE BACK BECAUSE THERE IS A LARGE BACK OF HOUSE AREA THAT IS PAVED WELL WITH ALL THE AMENITIES THAT YOU NEED TO RUN A RESTAURANT OF THIS SCALE. SO THOSE FOUR SPACES ARE IN THE BACK. AND THEN, FROM THIS AERIAL VIEW, YOU SEE THE DOCS THAT WERE NOT DESTROYED ,

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BASICALLY, IN THE SAME PLACE THAT THEY WERE AND THE FOOTPRINT FOR THE NEW RESTAURANT. THIS FOOTPRINT IS APPROXIMATELY 30% SMALLER THAN THE FORMER FOOTPRINT. ONLY BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS BUILDING, IT WAS BUILT ON OVER YEARS AND YOU CAN'T GET AS EFFICIENT AS YOU CAN WITH A BRAND-NEW BUILDING HERE. HERE IS A FLOOR PLAN OF THE BUILDING TO FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH IT IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN FAMILIAR WITH THE INITIAL BUILD AND THE NEW BUILD. WHAT WE ARE SHOWING HERE IS A LIGHT GREEN COLOR ON THE RIGHT BUT IT'S ALL BACK OF HOUSE KITCHEN AREA THAT IS ROUGHLY DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THE ORIGINAL KITCHEN . BASED ON THE TYPE OF MENU AND THE DOCK AND THE IMPACT OF PLATING SO MANY PEOPLE AT ONCE. IT IS A VERY LARGE KITCHEN. THE YELLOW AREA DOWN AT THE BOTTOM REPRESENTS THE RESTROOMS. THE RESTROOMS WERE SIZED DOUBLE WHAT THE MINIMUM CODE REQUIRES KNOWING FULL WELL THAT THE RESTAURANT WOULD USE THEM IN HIGH DEMAND. THE GRAY AREA REPRESENTS THE INDOOR DINING, WHICH INCLUDES 191 SEATS AND THEN, TO THE LEFT OF THAT AWARD TO THE SOUTH/SOUTHWEST, WE HAVE THE OUTDOOR DECK AREA, WHICH INCLUDES 159 SEATS. AND THEN, THE RAMP YOU SEE TO THE FAR LEFT CONNECTS TO THE DOCK SYSTEM THAT RUNS ALONG SIX MILE CREEK. THIS LAST SLIDE REPRESENTS A NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS, NOT ALL OF THEM, THAT WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO WORK WITH WITH THE STEWART FAMILY. THE PHOTOGRAPH UP IN THE RIGHT IS THEIR FIRST RESTAURANT THAT THEY PHYSICALLY RENOVATED THEMSELVES, PAINTED THE FURNITURE IN THE DINING ROOM AND IT WAS THEIR FIRST RESTAURANT THAT THEY OPENED, TOO MUCH SUCCESS , OVER IN ORANGE PARK. WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO WORK ON ALL SEVEN OF THE RESTAURANTS SINCE THEN. AND TO DO TO CONSTRUCTION CHALLENGES WE HAVE ON OUR BACK CRACK, WE ARE CIRCLING AND COMING BACK TO THIS FIRST PROJECT AFTER OPENING TWO AND HALF YEARS. SO, TODAY'S REQUEST IS ASKING YOU TO GRANT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT THAT ALLOWS THE ALCOHOL LICENSE TO BE RESURRECTED. THE ALCOHOL LICENSE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY OPENED IN THE 1900S WITH THE PREVIOUS OWNER. THE STUARTS, AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THESE LOGOS RUNNING CONSISTENT BRAND THROUGHOUT ALL OF THEIR RESTAURANTS INTO THE FISH HOUSE OR THE BOATHOUSE, IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE ONE THAT JUST OPENED IN PONTEVEDRA ALONG WHERE THE OLD ZOE'S USED TO BE. NATHAN AND MARCO FOCUS ON FAMILY ATMOSPHERE AND IF YOU HAVE EVER DEALT WITH ANY OF THEIR WAITERS AND WAIT STAFF, YOU CAN SEE THAT. THEY ARE ALL YOUNG STAFF. THE RESTAURANT WILL COOPERATE WITH NORMAL HOURS WITH FOCUS ON CLOSING ALL THE RESTAURANT AT 10:00 P.M. VERY FAMILY ORIENTED. FAMILY OUTDOOR AREA. WE DID NOT INCLUDE IN THIS RESTAURANT, SOME OF THE NEWER RESTAURANTS INCLUDE A CHILD'S PLAY AREA OUTSIDE, AND AREAS TO BURN THE ENERGY OFF FOR YOUNG CHILDREN.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE YOUNG TO HAVE A LOT OF ENERGY. WITH THAT SAID, I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING APPLICATION OR THE SLIDES THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED

WITH THE RESTAURANT ITSELF. >> OKAY. BACK INTO THE AGENCY.

HENRY? >> JUST A TECHNICAL QUESTION .

ARE Y'ALL READY TO OPEN AS SOON AS YOU GET LICENSES?

>> YES, SIR. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING ME. YES, SIR. WE HAVE HEALTH CONSULTANTS AS WELL AS PEOPLE WORKING ON THE LIQUOR LICENSE AND THEY PUSHED IT AS FAR AS MY

>> OKAY. BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS READY TO GO.

>> IT IS. THEY ARE WAITING TO STOCK THE COOLERS AND THAT IS WHY THEY ARE PROACTIVELY OPENING JULY 24TH ON THE SLIDE

BEHIND YOU HERE IT >>

>> PUTTING SOME PRESSURE ON US OR SOMETHING.

>> HAVE A QUESTION FOR JACOB SMITH. WE ARE ONLY DECIDING HERE ON THE SPECIAL USE FOR ALCOHOL, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> I APOLOGIZE. THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PARKING AND ALL OF THAT. IS THAT CORRECT? BUT THEY ALREADY HAVE THE THEY ARE ENTITLED TO DO EVEN THOUGH PARKING IS QUESTIONABLE BOTH PARKING?

>> RIGHT. THROUGH THE CHAIR AND TO MS. SPIEGEL'S QUESTION, YES, THE BOARD IS APPROVING THE ALCOHOL SPECIAL USE. THE REASON THAT THE PARKING INFORMATION IS IN THERE IS BECAUSE THE VESTING

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THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS RESTAURANT WAS IN THE AMOUNT OF SEATS LESS THAN WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED AND ULTIMATELY, THE APPLICANT HAS TO DEMONSTRATE COMPLIANCE WITH THE PARKING STANDARD. I AM NOT UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY CANNOT DO THAT BUT IT IS STILL SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE AN AS BUILT CERTIFICATION.

>> OKAY. NOT FOR OUR DECISION BUT FOR ACE FUTURE CONSIDERATION. MY QUESTION, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT YOU HAVE FROM 2005, MAYBE, WITH THE 12 BOAT PARKED ALONG THE SIDE? THERE YOU GO. OKAY. SO IF WE ARE AT YOUR MAX CAPACITY ASSUMING THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED A 52 SLIPS -- WELL, I GUESS NOT 52 BECAUSE IT IS CAPACITY FOR PEOPLE BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE 52 MORE PARKING SPOTS, IS THAT CORRECT? HOW LONG OF A WALK IS IT? THAT IS 12 THERE. HOW FAR DOWN WITH HAVE TO GO TO B-52 BOLTS AWAY? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA?

>> IF YOU ARE REFERRING TO THE BOAT DOCK, --

>> YES. >> THE BOAT DOCK IS ROUGHLY 1280 PEOPLE . SO, IN ANY GIVEN SPOT FROM THE CORNER THERE THAT IS ON THE EDGE TO THE DECK WHERE YOU FIRST APPROACHED THE RESTAURANT, AND I WILL JUST SHIFT HERE QUICKLY FOR REFERENCE , ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE DRAWING UP THERE, YOU WILL SEE A WING. ESSENTIALLY CONNECTS TO THE DOCK. WE DON'T HAVE THE DOCK SHOWN BUT IT ESSENTIALLY CONNECTS RIGHT TO THAT DOCK AND THAT DISTANCE IS ROUGHLY 40 FEET.

>> I AM SPEAKING ABOUT, IF THEY HAVE TO PARK THEIR BOAT 52 SPACES DOWN , 1200 FEET. AND WHAT IS THE LIGHTING LIKE AMONG THAT WALKWAY? ALONG THAT ? IS THERE LIGHTING?

>> TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE IS NO LIGHTING NOW. THERE IS LIGHTING AT THE APPROACH, POINTS COMING INTO THE BUILDING.

>> SO WE ARE GOING TO SERVE ALCOHOL AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WALK TO THEIR BOAT 52 CARDS AWAY AT 10:00 AT NIGHT? IS THAT

CORRECT? >> THEY POTENTIALLY COULD.

POTENTIALLY. >> OKAY. EVENTUALLY.

>> FOR THE CHAIR, ONE CLIFF VACATION. ONE CLARIFICATION.

THE NUMBER OF SEATS IS A COMPONENT OF THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SO THAT IS RELEVANT TO DETERMINE WHAT YOU THINK IS THE PROPER NUMBER OF SEATS THAT CAN BE PROVIDED IN THIS PERMIT.

>> SO HOW COULD THAT WORK IN OUR ORDINANCE OR HOW CAN WE

WORD THAT? >> UNDER THE CODE, YOU HAVE AN EQUATION THAT TELLS YOU HOW MANY PHYSICAL PARKING SPOTS EQUALS SEATS. THE CODE ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THEY HAVE OTHER WAYS TO PROVIDE PARKING.

VALET PARKING IS ONE, BUT ALSO, THE BOAT PARKING IS THERE.

THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING 56 BOAT SLOTS AND THAT HAS TO EQUAL SOMETHING, BUT OUR CODE DOES NOT CONTAIN AN EQUATION THAT LETS YOU JUST DECIDE THAT. SO THIS BODY NEEDS TO DECIDE THAT THEY HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING IN A NUMBER OF SPOTS THEY ARE REQUESTING AND THIS REQUEST IS FOR 350 SEATS.

>> OKAY. SO, IF WE HAVE A MOTION, THEN INCLUDED IN THAT

WOULD BE? >> THE CURRENT WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED IS FOR 350 SEATS. IF YOU DECIDED THAT IT NEEDS TO BE LESS THAN THAT, THEN YOU NEED TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE

STAFF MOTION. >> WELL, YOU JUST NEED TO TELL

US AND WE WILL MAKE CHANGES. >> ALL RIGHT.THANK YOU, SIR.

>> DR. HILSENBECK? >> I JUST HAVE A COMMENT THAT PEOPLE ARE ENVIOUSLY AND EAGERLY AWAITING THIS TO REOPEN

SO I AM READY. >> YES.

>>

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE AGENCY? AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN IT UP SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. HEARING NONE, WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A

MOTION. >> CAN I JUST MAKE A COMMENT? I GUESS WE HAVE A MOTION AND A COMMENT.

>> MOTION AND THEN A COMMENT. >> YEAH. SURE. I CERTAINLY DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS. IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. I THINK IT IS A GREAT ASSET TO THIS PART OF THE COMMUNITY. IT IS ASSESSABLE BY WATER AND FITS ALL OF THE SPOTS. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 2024 DASH 08 OUTBACK CRAB SHACK GIVEN THE FACT OF THE 11 CONDITION PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY DR. HILSENBECK. OKAY. REGISTER YOUR VOTE.

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AWAITING YOUR COMMENT, JUDY? >> I AM PART OF PUBLIC SAFETY SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS. THANK YOU.

>> BUT I DO SHARE CONCERN WITH THE LIGHTING. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CALCULATION IS WITHOUT PARKING BECAUSE IF WE WANT TO APPROVE THIS AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR SO MANY SEATS, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE BALANCE IS.

>> SO, IN THEIR PREVIOUS APPLICATION, THEY WERE APPROVED FOR 220 SEATS, BUT THEY HAD A DIFFERENT PARKING THAN AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY REQUESTED AT THAT TIME ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING BECAUSE THAT IS JUST HOW THEY WERE DESIGNED FOR ONLY 220 SEATS, SO THAT WAS WHAT THEY NEEDED BACK IN 2009 I THINK WHEN THE ORIGINAL PERMIT WAS THERE. I THINK OUR CALCULATIONS ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE 220 SEATS JUST FOR THE PARKING THAT IS AUTOMOBILE PARKING SO THEY SHOULD GET IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ANYWAY. SO THAT IS KIND OF A BARE MINIMUM THAT WE THINK OUR CODE ALREADY AUTHORIZES. AND THEN, HOW MANY

BOAT SLIPS? THERE ARE 56? >> 54.

>> OUR NORMAL EROSION FOR CARS AND AUTOMOBILE PARKING WOULD BE THREE SEATS PER PARKING SPOT AND SO, THREE TIMES THE 54 IS A LOT MORE . IF YOU USE THAT SAME METRIC, THE REQUEST IS REASONABLE, BUT THAT IS FOR YOU TO DECIDE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A METRIC THAT IS IN OUR CODE THAT APPLIES TO BOATS.

>> I UNDERSTAND. I STILL HAVE A CONCERN.

>> I AM SORRY? >> I STILL HAVE A CONCERN WITH

THE LIGHTING. >> THAT IS SOMETHING FOR THE

SAFETY? >> I AM SURE IT WILL DEFINITELY BE LOOKED AT BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THE MEMBERSHIP AND THEY DO NOT WANT ANY LIABILITY. WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT BUT I MUST SAY THAT FOR THE YEARS I HAVE GONE THERE AND I HAVE GONE THERE BOATING WHEN THERE HAS ONLY BEEN TWO BOATS TIED UP OR WHEN I HAD TO BEG A DRAFT ON TO THE THIRD BOAT, THE LIGHTING WAS NOT A PROBLEM BECAUSE WHEN I LEFT THE DOCK, IT WAS DARK AS WELL, AND SO I HAD TO NAVIGATE THE BOAT PROPERLY AND UNDERSTAND, I AM IN THE DARK WITH A BELT WITH RUNNING LIGHTS. THAT IS THE BEST I HAVE. SO I THINK IT IS A CONCERN IN TERMS OF WALKING AND PEOPLE WALKING ON THE DOCK, POSSIBLY, THAT NEAT LATE AT NIGHT. AND I WILL ASSURE YOU WE WILL LOOK AT THAT DETAIL AND ADDRESS IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT IS THERE NOW. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS ANY ELECTRICAL PROVISION OTHER THAN TO THE INITIAL POINT OF THE DOCK THAT I TALKED ABOUT.

>> I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IT BUT I REALLY HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT

THAT . >>

>> ONE >> YEAH. I HAVE JUST A QUICK COMMENT. I AGREE ON THIS. IT IS MIDNIGHT ON A FRIDAY. THE HOURS ARE UNTIL MIDNIGHT ON FRIDAY? WAS THAT IN THE MOTION?

>> IT MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE LISTING RIGHT NOW FOR THE GENERAL BUSINESS HOURS BUT I KNOW OUR CLIENT CLOSES ALL THE

RESTAURANTS AT 10. >> OKAY.

>> I WENT FOR A RUN THIS MORNING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND I ALWAYS BRING A LIGHT WITH ME AND MOST EVERYBODY ELSE DOES, SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT YOU NEED LIGHTS . THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE DISRUPTIVE TO THE LIGHT WILDLIFE.

>> OKAY. LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

[4. MAJMOD 2024-01 St. Augustine Premium Outlets. Request for a Major Modification to the St. Augustine Outlet Center PUD (Ordinance 1989-51, as amended) to add temporary Outdoor Sales and Display, and the onsite sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages as allowed uses.]

CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU.

>> NO, I CAN'T READ HERE. IT IS ALMOST UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT.

DO WE WANT TO GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER TWO AT THIS POINT? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? OKAY. THEN WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE AGENDA ST. AUGUSTINE PREMIUM OUTLETS. AND

EXPERTISE? >> YES, MR. CHAIR. I HAD A SITE VISIT AND BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH THE MAINTENANCE MAN AND SECURITY AS THEY WERE PREMATURELY TAKING DOWN THE SIGNS. JUST HAPPEN TO BE THERE WHEN THEY WERE TAKING THE SIGNS

DOWN. >> I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE MANY

TIMES. >> SECONDED. I TRAVEL THAT ROAD

QUITE A BIT. >> ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. MR.

WESTER, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> BRAD WESTER. 1200

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JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. I WILL BE REPRESENTING THE ASSIGNMENT FOR THE OUTLET MALL. AND THIS IS A MAJOR MODERN REQUEST FOR THE OUTLET CENTER AND THAT IS A MODIFICATION TO THE ORDINANCE OF THE 1989-51 VISUAL. WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCTION OF THE OUTLET CENTER. THIS IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF IT. IS AT THE HIGHWAY INTERCHANGE OF STATE ROAD 16 AND I-95. WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS AERIAL IF WE NEED TO TO TALK MORE ABOUT IT.

THERE IS THE SAME LOCATION MAP OVER THE AERIAL. THIS IS IN THE MIXED USE COMPREHENSIVE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY AND IT IS A PUD SURROUNDED BY ANOTHER USES. COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY TOWARDS HIM, COMMERCIAL INTENSE ARE THE GENERAL USE IS OUT THERE WITH A NUMBER OF VARIETY COMMERCIAL USES. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO ALLOW TEMPORARY OUTDOOR SALES AND THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES . THIS EXPANDS UPON A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TEMPORARY USES AND THE MORE EXISTING PARKING AREAS AS CUSTOMARY ON A TEMPORARY BASIS. NO NEW PERMANENT STRUCTURES ARE ALLOWED WERE REQUESTED WITH THESE TEMPORARY USES AND EVENTS AND NO SALES OF ALCOHOL AND BEVERAGES FOR OFF SIDE CONSUMPTION ARE ALLOWED. THIS DOES ALLOW ADMINISTERED OF STAFF REVIEW ON CERTAIN ITEMS AND WE HAVE BEEN AT THAT WITH STAFF AND THE FIRE MARSHAL AND WILL GO THROUGH THAT. MOST RECENT PREVIOUS ALLOWANCE WAS IN 2022 FOR THE YEAR, THE FULL CALENDAR YEAR. THIS WAS A NUMBER OF USES GOING THROUGH IT. IT INCLUDED THE SITE PLAN SPECIFICALLY SO THIS IS ALL PREDICATED ON THAT PZA REQUIRED TO APPROVE THIS SITE PLAN AND TEMPORARY USES AND THAT WAS TO ACTIVATE THESE PARKING AREAS OUTLINED HERE IN THE RED ON THE PARKING LOT. AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF USES. THE HOMESTEAD STAKES , TENT SALE, SPAS, CHRISTMAS TREES, APPLE TRUCK, PEACH TRUCK, SUPPLY AND LOCAL FOOD TRUCK FESTIVALS ON THE VARIOUS DATES LISTED. THIS DENSITY TO RECEIVE APPROVAL AND RELEASE ALL APPROVALS IN THE PAST FOR VERY SIMILAR USES. BUT EACH TIME HAVING TO COME IN I BELIEVE THAT IT THROUGH THE PCA. WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS TO BE PERMANENTLY INCLUDED YOUR FORWARD. WITH THE PROVISIONS ON THE ASTERIX ITEMS THERE BOTH ON THE LIST THAT STAFF DOES REVIEW THAT SPECIFICALLY SO, THEY HAVE TO PULL PERMITS BUT ON THE SPECIFIC ITEMS THERE, AND WE HAVE VETTED STAFF AND FIRE MARSHAL, WE THOUGHT IT WAS MORE PROVEN FOR STAFF TO ADMINISTERED OF THE APPROVED TEMPORARY STRUCTURES THAT WE GO OUT THERE AND THE ASSOCIATED PARKING. THE USES THEY ARE REQUESTING OUR CHRISTMAS TREE SALES, PUMPKIN PATCH SALES FOR HALLOWEEN, OBVIOUSLY, SO IT IS AGAIN SEASONAL, FIREWORKS, SPAS AND HOT TUBS, WHOLESALE FOOD TRUCKS, MOBILE FOOD TRUCKS WHICH ARE VERY POPULAR. RV AND AUTO SALE COMMERCIAL EVENTS, AUTO OVERFLOW PARKING AND THEN, FOR INSTANCE, A SMALL CARNIVAL CIRCUS OR FAIR. THE AUDIBLE OVERFLOW PARKING IS SPECIFIC TO THE NEED FOR A RENTAL CAR COMPANY OR A NEED FOR, LET'S SAY A AUTO SALES MAYBE EVEN ACROSS THE STREET FOR TRUCK AND AUTO. THE MAIN HAVE A NEED FOR OVERFLOW PARKING FOR SPECIFIC INSTRUCTION THAT IS GOING ON AND WE ORIGINALLY REQUESTED 180 DAYS BUT SETH HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THAT. AFTER VETTING THIS, AGAIN, FULLY WITH STAFF, THEY FELT THAT 90 DAYS WAS COMMENSURATE. SO WE ARE ASKING FOR IT TO BE 90 DAYS AND NOT 180 DAYS. THAT WAS A STAFF CONCERN. AND SO WE HAVE FULLY VETTED THAT AND GOT 90 DAYS WAS APPROPRIATE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THAT IS A CALENDAR YEAR SO IT IS NOT LIKE YOU CAN DO 90 DAYS AND ONE DAY OFF AND IT IS ANOTHER 90 DAYS. 90 DAYS.

THAT IS SOMETHING VETTED BY STAFF. YOU CAN HAVE A FOR-SALE SIGN IN THAT CAR. YOU CAN'T HAVE A FOR RENT SIGN IN THE CAR. IT IS JUST TO ACTIVATE THE PARKING LOT . FORTUNATELY WE ARE ECONOMIC AND REVENUE BASED. SO, YOU SEE THERE ON THE ASTERIX, FOR EXAMPLE, CHRISTMAS TREES, FIREWORKS, RV AND AUTO SALES, AND THAT WOULD BE MORE PROMOTIONAL EVENTS. SO THERE IS AN RV AND AUTO. THAT BASICALLY IS SAYING THAT THERE IS A CAMPER, TRAILER, OR RV THAT IS SALES COMMERCIAL AND IS LIMITED TO 10 DAYS PER CALENDAR YEAR. SO IT COULD BE OVER A COUPLE DIFFERENT WEEKENDS. AGAIN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CONTROL OR REVIEW BY STAFF AT MISERABLY. THESE ARE THE ACTIVATION

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SPACES. WHAT IT IS DOING IS GROWING WHAT IS DEVIOUSLY APPROVED. THIS IS DOUBLE THE AMOUNT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED FOR THE PAST APPROVALS FOR THE ACTIVATED PARKING SPACES, AND THEN, SPECIFIC TO JUST THE AUTO OVERFLOW LOCATIONS IS REALLY ON THE OUTER PERIMETER, OR OUT OF EDGE, OF THE EXISTING PARKING LOT. AS YOU ALL KNOW, MOST OF THESE RETAIL CENTERS FOR INSTANCE , MALLS, SHOPPING MALLS, OUTLET MALLS, THE PARKING USE IS PREDICATED ON THE USE TIMES. LIKE FRIDAY, THANKSGIVING, HOLIDAY EVENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE IS A LOT OF UNUSED PARKING SPACES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND THIS IS A BETTER WAY TO REACTIVATE THOSE PARKING SPACES FOR THINGS LIKE THIS MYSTERIES OR FIREWORK SHELLS AND SO FORTH AND DISTRIBUTE THE PARKING TO THE OTHER PLACES THAT ARE NORMALLY USED. AND AGAIN, SOME OF THOSE ARE VETTED BY STAFF INTERNALLY. THE WAIVERS INCLUDED, THREE OF THOSE WAIVERS , NUMBER TWO, THREE AND FOUR ARE LIMITED TO ESSENTIALLY THE TEMPORARY USES. SOME OF THOSE, FOR INSTANCE, NONPROFIT CARNIVAL FARE, SERVICE CHRISTMAS TREES, PUMPKINS, AND OUTDOOR DISPLAY OF VENDORS FOR SPAS AND VEHICLES. THOSE ARE LIMITED TO VERY SPECIFIC TIME FRAMES IN THE CODE BUT WE ARE PREDICATED THAT ON OUR REQUEST AS ON THE LIST THAT WE SHOWED AND BECOME GO BACK TO THAT INCLUDING ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES. SO FOR INSTANCE ANY OF THESE SALES OR PROMOTIONAL EVENTS, FOOD TRUCKS WOULD LIKE TO SELL US ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE FOR ON-SITE CONSUMPTION AS THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THE DIFFERENT SALES AND DIFFERENT EVENTS ON THE TIMES AS NOTED. THIS IS, AS YOU KNOW, IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR. IT DOES REQUIRE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION MEETING. THAT WAS LEGALLY ADVERTISE AND HELD ON MY ASSISTANCE, PARALEGAL MY ASSIGNMENT AND OF COURSE STAFF.

JUSTIN KELLY WAS THERE FROM ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE WAITED FOR HIM 30 MINUTES AND NOBODY SHOWED UP SO, WE PACKED UP AND LOCKED UP THE FACILITY AND NOBODY ATTENDED THAT. SO, THAT WAS OUR NORTHWEST SECTOR MEETING. I HAVE HAD NO PHONE CALLS, NO EMAILS, NO CORRESPONDENCE FOR ANYTHING ON THIS MATTER WHATSOEVER TO DATE, WHICH YOU SEE HERE. HERE IS OUR NORTHWEST SECTOR MEETING AS A LEGALLY NOTICED IN THE PAPER. WE SENT THE NOTICE OUT TO ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND HAD SIGNS POSTED FOR THE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION MEETING. THOSE MAY BE SEPARATE , MS. SPIEGEL, FROM THE SIGNS YOU SAW BEING TAKEN OUT OF THE ZONING MATTER BUT WE PUT THESE UP ALL ON THE FRONT ENTRY ROADS THERE ON STATE ROAD 16 SO THEY WERE VERY VISIBLE AND THEY ARE VERY LARGER THAN THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE REQUIREMENT. AND THE AFFIDAVIT WAS PULLED OUT DURING OUR MEETING. IN SUMMARY, THIS PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED OUTSIDE SIDEWALK PROMOTIONAL EVENTS FOR A RESOLUTION FROM 1994 - 08 .

THAT DID NOT CARRY FORWARD BECAUSE IT WAS NOT TRANSFERRED OVER FOR THE OWNERSHIP FROM CONSIGNOR TO CONSIGNMENT. THE REQUEST FOR THESE CONTEMPORARY USES IS CUSTOMARY FOR NOT MALLS AND OUTLET CENTERS TO ACTIVATE TALKING LOTS FOR TEMPORARY EVENTS AND USES TO PROMOTE SUSTAINABLE REGIONAL SERVICES FOR THE COMMUNITY. THE LARGE INVENTORY OF PARKING SPACES WITH MANY UNDERUTILIZED BASED ON SEASONAL VARIATION AND RETAIL. THIS DOES NOT INCREASE ANY INTENSITY OF PERMIT USES OR SQUARE FOOTAGE. THE LOCATION WHERE THE RESULTS OF THE PARKING LOT ITSELF ARE INTERIOR TO THE SITE. AND PREVIOUS TEMPORARY USES AND EVENTS HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH NO ISSUES. THAT AS SUCH HAS LED US TO THE TRACK RECORD AS A REQUEST THESE DAYS FOR THIS DATE. NO OPPOSITION OR INQUIRIES TO THIS REQUEST SO FAR AND WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I WILL TURN BACK OVER TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.

I DO HAVE OUR REP ASSIGNMENT AVAILABLE .

>> THANK YOU. THIS TIME, WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE

AGENCY. >> BRAD, I HAVE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS. WHEN I FIRST READ THIS, I WAS ALL FOR IT AND READ THROUGH IT AGAIN AND I HAD SOME QUESTIONS SO I WANT TO SEE HOW YOU REACT. NUMBER ONE, WHOLESALE FOOD TRUCKS VERSUS MOBILE FOOD TRUCKS. IS ALEXA BUDDY SELLING SHRIMP?

>> YES, SIR. YEAH. THE PREVIOUS ONE SHOWED STAKES AND I DON'T WANT TO USE THE BRAND BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS. IT MIGHT BE A VEGETABLE TRUCK, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I SCREAM. SOMETHING THAT IS VERY SPECIFIC TO THAT AND SEPARATE FROM EIGHT FOOD TRUCK THAT SERVES TACOS OR BURGERS OR

SOMETHING. >> YES, SIR. ON PAGE SEVEN OF THE APPLICATION UNDER APPLICABLE REGULATIONS , IT SAYS THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MAY APPROVE MODIFICATIONS TO APPROVE -- DOLL, DULL, DULL. AND HE DOES

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WILL RESULT IN AN INCREASE OF MORE THAN 5% THE AMOUNT OF THE OUTSIDE LAND AREA OR DEMONSTRATIONS OVER THE ENTIRE EDP. SO, WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE YOU OCCUPYING OUT OF THE TOTAL OF THAT? IS A GREATER THAN 5%? IS IT THREE?

>> IT IS NOT. NO. I DON'T HAVE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE NUMBER. WE DID INITIALLY HAVE THAT WITH THE COUNTY TO SEE ABOUT THAT THRESHOLD. I KNOW ONE REASON THIS IS A MAJOR MODEL NOT A MINOR MOD IS BECAUSE OF THE RV SALE OR RV PROMOTIONAL SALES EVENTS THAT IS A LITTLE MORE INTENSIVE OF USE BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE VEHICLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT IS WHY STAFF WOULD TEMPORARILY -- I'M SORRY, ADMINISTRATOR VLIET REVIEW THIS BUT THAT IS WHAT TRIGGERED THE MAJOR MODS AS OPPOSED TO THE MINOR MODIFICATIONS BUT WE DID ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THRESHOLDS AND WENT BACK AND FORTH ON THAT WITH STAFF. WE AGREED, YES, IT IS A MAJOR MODIFICATION BUT WE DID LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER. I APOLOGIZE.

>> IT LOOKS GREATER THAN 5% TO ME. AND I AM WONDERING FROM STAFF, IS THERE AN ENVIRONMENT SECTION ON THIS? OR IS IT GOING TO GO TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS?

>> MAJOR MODIFICATIONS HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD.

>> OKAY. THEY NEED TO RESOLVE THIS AS WELL. OKAY. IT SAYS DOWN HERE ON NUMBER FIVE, SO STILL AT PAGE SEVEN, CHANGES WILL RESULT IN AN INCREASE OF AN AREA OF ANY TYPE OR ANY LAND-USE TYPE ACCEPT OPEN SPACE RECREATION FOR MORE THAN 5%. I WISH YOU DID HAVE THAT IN THERE BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS

MORE THAN THAT. >> YEAH. I AM SORRY THAT I DON'T. I CAN GET IT AS A FOLLOW-UP TO THIS MEETING AND CHECK ON THAT. CERTAINLY, IF THERE IS AN ERROR IN THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES AS WE HAVE DEFINED, WE CAN SHRINK THAT TO GET THAT I KNOW WE HAVE VETTED THAT WITH STAFF. WE DIDN'T MEAN TO TRIP THAT BY ANY MEANS, BUT THIS WAS A TRACK RECORD OF PREVIOUSLY SUCCESSFUL PROMOTIONAL EVENT AND MY CLIENT, SIMON, WANTED TO KIND OF INCORPORATE THE ASPECTS FOR RV AND THEY HAVE HAD INQUIRIES, SO THEY ARE NOT SEEKING THIS BUT THEY HAVE INQUIRIES FROM RENTAL CAR COMPANIES AND THERE IS A PROVISION IN THEIR FOR IF AN AUTO SALES TRUCK , GMC, YOU NAME IT, NEEDS TO HAVE SPACE TO STORE THEIR VEHICLES WHILE THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY DON'T ALLOW, BUT THE PROVISION IS, AND THIS WILL BE CONDITIONED IN THE ZONING OF APPROVAL, YOU CAN PUT SALE SIGNS ON THE WINDOWS AS IF IT IS A CAR SALES DEALERSHIP. IT IS ONLY THERE TO CONSISTS STORE FOR OVERFLOW PURPOSES. ON THE SURPLUS

PARKING. >> I AM GLAD YOU CHANGE IT TO THE 90 DAYS. SO THAT IS GOOD. I'M GLAD YOU DID THAT.

>> SO, FOR THE OVERFLOW PARKING THEY WOULD BE PARKED THERE 24/7 FOR UP TO 90 DAYS, POTENTIALLY, AND I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE MANY TIMES. ONLY ONES HAVING ONLY SEEN A SECURITY VEHICLE OUT THERE. YOU CAN HAVE MORE SECURITY OUT THERE WITH A BUNCH OF BRAND-NEW CARS OUT THERE AT 2:00 A.M., JUST GREAT FOR TAKING A CATALYTIC CONVERTER TWO. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE

SOME BEEFED UP SECURITY. >> I WILL MAKE SURE MY CLIENT IS ADVISED OF THAT. THE ONE THING ABOUT THIS SITE THAT IS NOT REALLY HIDDEN SO ANY VEHICLES WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAD ADDED SECURITY AND THAT IS A GREAT POINT. IT IS IN VIEW OF THE INTERSTATE ITSELF. IT IS IN THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE PARKING LOT, IF YOU WILL, SO THERE IS HIGH VISIBILITY BUT I WILL MAKE SURE THAT I WILL MENTION THAT TO MY CLIENT. THEY ARE HERE NOW RECENTLY BUT THAT IS GOOD TO KNOW. CERTAINLY, THE RENT-A-CAR OR SEALS USE COMPANY WOULD HAVE THE BEST INTEREST TO MAKE SURE THEIR CAR IS PROTECTED AS WELL.

>> YEAH. >> NUMBER SEVEN HERE SAYS THE CHANGES WILL RESULT IN AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC GENERATION BY MORE THAN 5%. WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC GOING TO BE GENERATED BY FOR ALL OF YOUR USES EVEN ON SMALLER DAYS, 40 DAYS , 45 DAYS . CARNIVALS. ALL OF THAT. THERE WAS NOTHING ABOUT TRAFFIC AT

ALL. >> THE TRAFFIC GENERATION AND DISTRIBUTION WAS NOT REQUESTED TO BE A PART OF THE REVIEW FOR THIS, SO I DON'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC GENERATION THERE. WHAT WE HAVE IS ESSENTIALLY A TRACK RECORD FROM THE PAST OF SOME VERY SUCCESSFUL WEEKEND PROMOTIONAL EVENTS IN CONCERT WITH THE NORMAL RETAIL BUSINESS HOURS AND IT REALLY HAS NOT BEEN AN ISSUE . THERE IS A BRAND-NEW INTERCHANGE GOING THERE FROM ROUTE 16 TO 95, WHICH ENDED OF COURSE ELEVATION POINTS MAKING SOME CHANGES TO THE CIRCULATION AND ACCESS

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POINTS OUT THERE AT 16 AND 208. SO WE DO FEEL THAT THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO FLOW A LOT BETTER. RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON, BUT WE DO KNOW THEY ARE DOING THAT TO RELIEVE SOME THE FLOW OUT THERE BUT I DON'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC GENERATION NUMBERS BECAUSE OF THESE ARE TEMPORARY USES.

>> OKAY. BECAUSE I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I HAVE A POINT RIGHT THERE OF THAT SECOND ACT ROUTE 16. THAT IS WAY OVER PAST. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS BUT I DON'T SEE

ANYBODY HERE. >>

>> I JUST WONDERED WHAT THE CAPACITY IS RIGHT THERE OR IF THE CAPACITY IS A DEFICIT USE. SO, WHAT SORT OF RESTROOM FACILITIES ARE ALL GOING TO HAVE?

>> IS A QUICK QUESTION. THEY WILL CERTAINLY BE ABLE TO USE THE RESTROOMS THERE AT THE OUTER MALL BUT IF THERE IS THE NEED, THERE COULD BE SOME PORTABLE RESTROOMS BROUGHT IN FOR THE DIFFERENT USES . THEY DO MAKE SOME NICE CLIMATE CONTROLLED RESTROOMS NOW, BUT THERE ARE EXISTING FACILITIES THERE THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC. AND JUST KEEP IN MIND, THE ONE THING ABOUT TRAFFIC AND ONE THING ABOUT RESTROOMS, THE PARKING LOT AND THE MALL ITSELF IS REALLY BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE EVERY SINGLE PARKING SPACE BEING UTILIZED AT PEAK HOURS. FOR INSTANCE, I JUST USE THINGS GIVING HOLIDAYS , THE BIG RUSH OF TRAFFIC FOR THE SHOPPING, AS ALL CUSTOMARILY KNOW IT. THIS IS TO KIND OF BE ON OFF-PEAK TIDES.

SO IT WILL SUPPLEMENT AND WILL BE A EQUILIBRIUM OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE ACTUALLY, YOU CAN IMAGINE DURING THAT BLACK FRIDAY/THANKSGIVING OR HOLIDAY RUSH, THE PARKING LOT OUT THERE AND GENERATION OF THE PARKING USES IS REALLY PREDICATED ON EVERY PARKING SPACE BEING FULL, BUT IT IS NOT NOT THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE YEAR. THAT IS WHY WE WANT TO REACTIVATE SOME OF THOSE PARKING SPACES OR USE IN THE COMMUNITY.

>> OVER TO THE WEST MALL ENGINE 295 IS CURRENTLY AT 110% INCLUDING THE GHOST TRIP THAT ARE ACTIVELY ON THE ROAD. IF YOU REMOVE THOSE , THE ACTUAL TRIPS THAT ARE UTILIZING THAT ROAD, IT IS LESS THAN 100% AND THEN ADDITIONALLY GOING TO THE TRAFFIC GENERATION, BECAUSE WHEN WE DO OUR CONCURRENCY ANALYSIS IN OUR HIGH-VOLUME CAPACITY OF THE ROAD, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE DAILY PMP THAT IS GENERATED AND SO THESE KINDS OF TEMPORARY USES WOULDN'T FLY TOWARD THAT BECAUSE, AGAIN, THAT IS NOT THE DAILY GENERATOR OF TRAFFIC FOR TRANSPORTATION

CAPACITY. >> OKAY. AND WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS YOU GIVE US THE TOTAL COMMITTED DAILY TRAFFIC?

>> THE PMP IS CURRENTLY COMMITTED AT 110% WITH THE GHOST TRIP, WE ARE 100. BUT WE ARE AT 100% CAPACITY. WE HAVE AVAILABLE ACTUAL CAPACITY ON THE ROADWAY, INCLUDING THE TRIPS, WE ARE AT MAX CAPACITY CURRENTLY.

>> ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE IT. LET ME SEE WHAT OTHER FEW THINGS I HAVE HERE. WE ANSWERED THAT. SO, DOES THE FOOD COURT IN THERE? I HAVE NEVER BEEN INTO THE FOOD COURT, BUT DOES

IT SERVE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES? >> I BELIEVE THAT THEY DO NOT.

SO, THEY DON'T SERVE THEM NOW, BUT WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE IS TO HAVE SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO ACCOMMODATE THAT TYPE OF INDUSTRY FOR THE TEMPORARY USES. SO, IT WOULD BE A TEMPORARY USE. THE ABILITY TO ACTIVATE THAT SPACE FOR ALCOHOL SALES SO IT IS MY PACKAGE STORAGE JUST FOR TEMPORARY USES. SO IF YOU ARE BY A SMALL, YOU WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE A ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE . SO, IT IS VERY COMMENSURATE WITH THAT TYPE OF USE. THE ACTIVATED TEMPORARY USES IS VERY COMMENSURATE WITH THAT. JUST IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THESE

ARE ALL AT PEAK TIMES. >> SO IT WOULD BE PRIMARILY FOOD TRUCKS THAT ARE SELLING ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES?

>> YES, SIR. >> AND IS IT BEER AND WINE?

>> YES, SIR. I AM NOT AGAINST ALCOHOL.

>> I UNDERSTAND, SIR. WE REVIEWED THIS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE MARSHAL AND STAFF AS WELL SO WE SAT DOWN WITH STAFF TO COME UP WITH A LIST THAT THEY FELT IT WAS BEST FOR THEIR TEMPORARY ADMINISTRATOR REVIEW. SO IT SAYS IT IS A PUMPKIN PATCH THAT THEY CAN JUST DO THAT BY RIGHT OF DISCRETION. PUT A LITTLE PUMPKIN PATCH OUT THERE BUT THINGS LIKE CHRISTMAS TREES, WHICH COULD BE FLAMMABLE OR FIREWORKS OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE THE LICENSE TO HAVE THE FIREWORKS DISPLAY. THOSE THINGS, CREDIBLY ARE TO BE

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REVIEWED INTERNALLY BY STAFF, BUT NOT BURDEN THE OVERALL PUBLIC HEARING SYSTEM. WE MET WITH STAFF ON ALL THAT AND CAME TO TERMS ON WHAT SHOULD BE SPECIFICALLY APPLIED FOR IT.

THE OTHERS ARE DISCRETIONARY. SMALL SALES AND THINGS LIKE

THAT. >> EACH TIME YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE ANYWAY, STAFF HAVE TO APPROVE IT? AND THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY -- THE STAFF HAS A CAPACITY TO OVERSEE THE

APPROVAL OF THIS? >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> I WAS DEBATING WHETHER TO SAY THIS OR NOT BUT WHEN I WAS FIRST LEARNING TO DRIVE, I PARENTS TOLD ME, IT MAY NOT BE A BAD ACCIDENT BUT NOT ONE OF THE WORST PLACES TO HAVE AN ACCIDENT IS IN THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE BACKING OUT.

SO I JUST AM CONCERNED ABOUT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, VEHICLE SAFETY IN THAT PARKING LOT AND I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE MANY TIMES. SO, I AM PROBABLY GOING TO VOTE FOR IT BUT JUST SO YOU HAVE THE OVERSIGHT FROM THE COUNTY , I DO WORRY ABOUT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND VEHICULAR SAFETY AND OVERALL PUBLIC

SAFETY OUT THERE. >> SIMON DOES TOO. I PROMISE YOU THAT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

>> YES, MR. WESTER, I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT. THE PLACE THAT YOU HAD DELETED FOR THE OVERFLOW PARKING FOR THE AUDIO AUTO, THAT IS THE WHOLE ONLY SHADING PARKING LOT. I DO REALIZE THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GOING BACK TO 90 DAYS BECAUSE I HAD A VERY BIG PROBLEM BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.

I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT THAT IT WOULD BE DURING TIMES OF CONSTRUCTION WITH SWITCHING AROUND IT ANOTHER DEALERSHIP THAT IS REALLY GOOD TOO. I DID HAVE A QUESTION , HE SAID, WE HAD SPOKEN ABOUT A NUMBER OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FOR A MAUL OF THIS TYPE AND HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE GOING TO BE TAKEN AWAY BY SEGMENTING THEM. AND I DID APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO ACTIVATE ALL OF THE PARKING SPOTS DURING THE PEAK SHOPPING TIMES. SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE NOT GOING TO BE GOING ON ALL YEAR ROUND. SO I THINK THERE IS A SHIFTING OF NUMBERS THAT CAN OCCUR. SO, MAYBE THAT IS A 5% THING BECAUSE MAYBE IT IS NOT GOING TO BE HAPPENING ALL THE TIME. BUT WERE YOU ABLE TO FIND THAT INFORMATION? HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS ARE REQUIRED AND IF THEY DO TAKE AWAY X AMOUNT FOR VEHICLE STORAGE, IF THAT IS GOING TO KEEP THEM COMPLIANT

WITH OUR COUNTY CODES? >> TO THE CHAIR, KEISHA. AT THIS TIME, WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS PRESENTED DOES NOT IMPEDE ON THE REAR REQUIRED EXISTING USE AS A CENTER AS IT IS TODAY BECAUSE THESE ARE TEMPORARY USES, LIKE YOU SAID, IT WILL BE SHIFTING AND THE CONCERN WAS THE OVERLAP OF THESE USES WITH PEAK TIME OF THE OUTLET CENTER BEING CHRISTMAS OR OTHER SHOPPING THAT IT WILL BE HEAVILY USED AND THOSE USES WON'T OVERLAP SO THERE WILL BE A REAL NEED FOR ADDITIONAL

PARKING. >> OKAY. EXCEPT MAYBE THE

CHRISTMAS TREES. >>

>> PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO OCCUR DURING A HIGH-TRAFFIC TIME. I THINK THOSE ARE MY ONLY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> I WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD, I AM NOT TRYING TO BE A COMEDIAN BUT WHEN YOU STATE SHADY SPOT, ARE TALKING ABOUT TREE COVER, NOT STOLEN CATALYTIC CONVERTERS.

>> WAY. I KNOW YOU MEANT IT THAT WAY. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO WEIGH IN ON THIS, SPEAK NOW. SEEING NONE, WE ARE BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR EMOTION.

OH, COME ON UP. >> IS THIS PART OF THE PRESENTATION OR IS IS A PUBLIC SPEAKING? SHOULD I START THE

CLOCK OR NOT? >>

>> MY NAME IS ALAN WAYS. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK REAL QUICK ABOUT SOME OF THE SECURITY CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE. ONE SECURITY ON VEHICLE ON-SITE RIGHT NOW WE BUDGETED TO HAVE THE VEHICLE THIS YEAR UNTIL THE END OF SEPTEMBER . WE SECURED THE TOWER ON SITE AS WELL WHICH PREVIOUSLY HAD SOME ELECTRICAL ISSUES BUT NOW IT HAS A VOICE ALARM THAT WE ACTIVATE AT

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NIGHT. KNOWLEDGE OF SOME OF THE SECURITIES AND CONCERNS.

>> SO THERE IS ACTUALLY A PERSON UP IN THAT LITTLE TOWER?

>> IT IS MONITORED. >>

>> DEPENDING ON STAFF AVAILABILITY AND HOW LONG THE VEHICLE HAS BEEN CONTROLLING, THERE IS SOMEONE IN THE

SECURITY TOWER AS WELL. >> OKAY. GREAT. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. HENRY?

>> TO THE AGENCY, I AM READY TO MAKE A MOTION.

>> WE ARE BACK ON THE AGENCY. >> OH, OKAY. I GUESS I AM A. I THINK THE REQUEST IS VERY REASONABLE. WE GO OUT THERE WHEN IT IS BUSY TIME BUT THERE IS A LOT OF SLOW TIMES WHEN I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE AND THINK THAT ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP OUR RETAIL OR BUSINESS'S TAX BASE MOVE FORWARD. I DON'T THINK ANYTHING IS CRAZY ABOUT IT SO I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR 2024-01 ST. AUGUSTINE PREMIUM OUTLET. WITH THE FACTS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT

[5. REZ 2023-21 Ohana Breeze. Request to rezone approximately 0.21 acres of land, located along the eastern side of AIA South, north of Treasure Beach Road, from Commercial Neighborhood (CN) to Residential, Manufactured/Mobile Home or Single Family [RMH(S)] to allow for one (1) single family residence.]

AND WE ARE CHANGING THE 180 DAYS TO 90 DAYS FOR THE

OVERFLOW PARKING. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. REGISTER POWERFUL.

MOTION CARRIES. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE

A GREAT DAY. >> OKAY. MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE.

OHANA BREEZE. MR. BURNETT? >> SORRY. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE HUMOR WAS -- I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT BUT IT IS A TRUE STATEMENT. FOR THE RECORD, DOUG BURNETT. ST. JOHN'S LONGER. YOUR INSTINCT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF MR. AND MISSES POTTER FOR OHANA BREEZE IS WHAT THEY CALL THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY . LOCATION WISE, IT IS DOWN CRESCENT BEACH KIND OF AREA . IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH TREASURE BEACH, YOU WILL INSTANTLY RECOGNIZE THE CANALS THERE AS LOCATION ON THE MAP AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE MAINSTREET COMES IN. 1088 IS WITH THIS PARCEL IS LOCATED.

FUTURE LAND USE THAT MAP IS WHAT YOU SEE. ZONING MAP IS COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. ARRANGE IS WHAT MOST OF ALL TREASURE BEACH IS ZONED. SOME COMMERCIAL ALONG A 1A. AND ALONG A 1A BEACHSIDE IS SIMILARLY HOUSING WITH A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS IN THERE. A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AMONG A1A IN THIS AREA IS LIVE WORK WITH RETAIL BELOW AND HOME LIVING AREA ABOVE AS A RENTAL OR MAYBE THE OWNER LIVES THERE.

THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING TO THE ZONING MAP.

TURNING COMMERCIAL INTO OUR MAIN. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS A LOT ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD. IT IS SLIGHTLY DECEIVING, THE COMMERCIAL THAT IS BEHIND BECAUSE MOST ALL OF THAT ACTUALLY HAS SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES BUILT ON IT. ALMOST ALL OF TREASURE BEACH. SO IT IS REALLY NOT COMMERCIAL IN THERE.

PROBABLY WOULD NOT MAKE MUCH SENSE TO HAVE COMMERCIAL ON THAT SIDE WHERE YOU HAVE GOT RESIDENTIAL IN AN AREA WHERE THOSE PEOPLE LOOK AT TREASURE BEACH AS BEING ENTIRELY RESIDENTIAL. WE CAN SEE AN AERIAL HERE OF THE SITE AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE BACKYARD ONE VACANT LOT. DIRECTLY TO THE BACK IS A HOUSE DIAGONAL TO THE OTHER WAY IS A HOUSE AND I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN A MOMENT. IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF IT IS IN OFFICE BUT A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL IN THE AREA AND ACROSS THE STREET RESIDENTIAL IN THE CANALS A TALK ABOUT YOU CAN SEE THE PROXIMITY OF THEM. A DIFFERENT VIEW OF AN AERIAL, PUTTING IT IN VIEWS YOU CAN SEE THE CANALS ABOVE IN THE LOCATION. LOOKING AT STAFF REPORT, STAFF REPORT TALKS ABOUT THE MAJORITY OF THE LOTS TO THE WEST ARE IMPROVABLE RESIDENTIAL UNITS. TO THE EAST AND SOUTH OF A1A ARE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. ALSO IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, REVIEW BY

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PLANNING STAFF INDICATES THE PROPERTY IN THE AREA COMPRISE OF RESIDENTIAL TYPE USES. OVERALL, THE REQUESTED REZONING FROM T TO RHS SEEMS TO BE CONSISTENT TO THOSE AROUND THE AREAS. AND OF COURSE, A PLAT MAP . IN PARTICULAR, YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING FROM THIS LINE TO THE LEFT. TO THE WEST IS RESIDENTIAL AND EVERYTHING TO THE RIGHT OR TO THE EAST IS RESIDENTIAL AS WELL. IT IS ONLY THIS PORTION DIRECTLY CONFRONTING THE A1A RIGHT YOU HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL USE. I WILL SHOW YOU THIS LOT WHICH IS NO LONGER A LOT. IT ACTUALLY HAS A HOUSE BUILT ON IT. IT IS AKIN TO WHEN YOU DRIVE UP IGUANA AND YOU ARE GOING TO PONTE VEDRA AND YOU SEE THE HOUSES ON THE SIDE WHERE THEY BUILT REALLY NOW BEAUTIFUL HOMES. I WILL TAKE THE VIEW AND SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THIS ANGLE. YOU HAVE SEEN THE HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT ON THE PLOT. REALLY, A BEAUTIFUL HOME AND REALLY CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE. WHAT IS BEHIND IT BEING THE PUBLIC HOME TO TREASURE BEACH. LIVING WORK UNITS IMMEDIATELY TO THE RIGHT THERE OF IT WHERE YOU HAVE GOT THE OFFICE TYPE USE LIVING AREA ABOVE. THIS IS AN OFFICE THAT IS ALSO A MIDDLE AREA FROM THE HOUSE LOCATION. LOOKING AT THIS AREA AND TAKING A LITTLE DIFFERENT VIEW TO THE SOUTH, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN WERE OFFICE WHERE YOU HAVE GOT RETAIL OFFICE SPACE FOR THE FIRST FLOOR AND LIVING AREA ABOVE. AND THEN, THESE ARE THOSE HOUSES I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT THAT ARE IN TREASURE BEACH THAT ARE BACKED UP TO THE LAND THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT. WERE WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A ZONING CHANGE.

AND THAT IS REALLY IT. IT IS THAT SIMPLE. HOPEFULLY, THERE IS NO OPPOSITION THAT IS SHOWN UP IN YOUR REPORT. I DON'T

THINK SO. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE APPROVED SEVERAL OF THESE PARTICULARLY IN THE LAST YEAR . I SHOULD HAVE DRIVEN DOWN TO LOOK AT IT BUT LOOKING AT AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS, MAYBE STAFF CAN WEIGH IN. I HAVE NEVER ASKED THIS BEFORE ABOUT THESE BUT THAT APPEARS TO BE EITHER MARITIME HAMMOCK, A YOUNG MARITIME HEMIC OR COASTAL SCRUB. BOTH OF THOSE ARE SIGNIFICANT TO THE NATURAL COMMUNITY. JUST 10% OF THAT LOT HAD TO BE SET ASIDE TO MAINTAIN THIS MARITIME HEMIC OR COMMERCIAL SCRUB ? IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A LARGE DEVELOPMENT OR NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT IT. SO WE ARE GETTING RID OF MODEL THAT COASTAL SCRUB DOWN THERE THAT IS SO MUCH NONEXISTENT. SO I'M CURIOUS.

>>

>> YES. I WILL ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ADDRESSED AT THE TIME CLEARANCE SHEET, BUT THAT'S NOT

>> I THINK MOST OF THEM, THE ONES YOU HAVE SHOWN LOOK LIKE THERE IS NO NATIVE PRESERVATION LEFT ON IT. SO I WONDER, SINCE THOSE ARE TWO OF THE SIX SIGNIFICANT NATURAL COMMUNITIES IF THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LEFT. IS THAT ENFORCED FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE? SO I AM ASKING STAFF THAT.

>> TO THE CHAIR, THERE WERE NO OPEN COMMENTS FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP REGARDING THE HABITATS YOU SPEAK OF. BUT DOUG IS CORRECT, AS THEY MOVE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE ON THE CLEARANCE SHEET BY OUR STAFF. I DON'T HAVE THOSE RELATIONS RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

>> WAS AT THIS ONE? IT HAD TO BE THIS ITEM. OKAY. THANKS.

>> JUDY? >> YES. JUST A QUESTION FOR STAFF, I GUESS, IF THIS MAIN COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO IS TO BUILD A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND UP TO TWO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE EMPLOYEES OR HONORS IS WHAT I'M SEEING FROM THIS SECTION 204C402 AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 17 ALLOWED USES? I AM TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND. YOU SAID THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD BUT IT IS ALL OF THE SAME FAMILY. IT IS ALL A BUNCH OF HOMES SO, HOW DOES THAT WORK? WHAT COULD THEY

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ELABORATELY DO RIGHT NOW ON THE PROPERTY? IT WOULD HAVE TO BE COMMERCIAL BUT THEY COULD HAVE UP TO TWO --

>> TO THE CHAIR TO MS. SPIEGEL'S QUESTION, YES, IT IS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL, WHICH DOES ALLOW ON-SITE RESIDENTIAL AS AN ACCESSORY TO THE COMMERCIAL USE, SO, AS MR. BURNETT POINTED OUT, OFTEN TIMES, THOSE BUILDINGS IN THOSE AREAS OF ANASTACIA ITEM ISLAND ARE DEVELOPED WHERE THERE IS WORK IN OFFICE AND RETAIL AT THE BOTTOM. WHAT WE RUN INTO IN THIS AREA OF THE COUNTY FOR DEVELOPING COMMERCIAL IS THAT THEY ARE SUBJECT TO OVERLAY REQUIREMENTS, WHICH ARE EXTREMELY STRICT AND ON THE SIZE RESIDENTIAL LOTS, USUALLY ARE ZONED COMMERCIAL. USUALLY IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO MEET

THE CORRECT ZONING REGULATIONS. >> I ALSO SHARED DR. HILL'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE NATURAL HABITAT IN THE AREA. SO I AM GLAD STAFF IS GOING TO DILIGENTLY LOOK AT THAT. THANK

YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. WE WILL

-- AND WE? >> I WAS GOING TO MAKE ONE COMMENT. I WOULD NORMALLY CONSIDER THIS ALMOST LIKE A SPOT ZONING BUT I SEE MORE RESIDENTIAL ALONG HERE. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT MORE COMMERCIAL GROWTH BECAUSE WE WERE RESTRICT IF BETWEEN THE OCEAN AND THE INTER-COAST . SO, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA. I AM VERY MUCH AGAINST -- BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT, THAT

WORKS. >> ALL RIGHT. WE WILL OPEN UP THE FLOOR. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS UP FOR DISCUSSION? I DON'T SEE ANY SO WE ARE BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

HENRY? >> I WILL GO AHEAD AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING OF 2023 ¿ 2001 BASED ON THE

[6. REZ 2024-10 1974 State Road 16. Request to rezone approximately 4.4 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) and Commercial Intensive (CI) to Commercial Intensive (CI) to provide for the same zoning over the entirety of the site, and allow for the use of Boat Sales, Service, and Storage.]

FACTS PROVIDED IN OUR STAFF. >> WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> OKAY. LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 6-0. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. OKAY. WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER SIX . MR. WILES?

>> I DID A SITE VISIT. >> ANYBODY ELSE?

>> YES. >>

>> I SHOULD SAY THAT. >> I HAVE DRIVEN BY THERE A FEW TIMES BUT I HAVE A BIT OF EXPERTISE ON THIS. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ALAN RICK WHICH IS THE GENERAL MANAGER AT AG PRO. I HAD A SITE VISIT ACCOMPANIED BY MR. STACY, BUT I ALSO SPOKE WITH MR. STACY . I HAD A PHONE CALL WITH MR. WILES AND A PHONE CALL WITH MR. STACY AS WELL.

>> THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. FOR THE RECORD, I AM NOT JACK WILES. WITH ME TODAY, I DO HAVE JACK WILES AS AN REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT. AND WHO WILL EVENTUALLY GO INTO SITE DESIGN ON THIS IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. I DO WANT TO START OFF . LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET

CONTROL. >> WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR HELPING IN EVERY WAY, INCLUDING ISSUES. THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FROM THE OPEN RURAL TO CI. THIS IS ALL ONE PARTIAL OF RECORD. AND THEN, OPEN RURAL KIND OF EXPANDS AROUND BACK INTO WHERE IT HITS THAT PROPERTY OWNED BY ST. JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. YOU WILL SEE ON THIS SITE, THE EXISTING LOCATION .

IT HAS SOME TOWING AND STORAGE IN THE REAR THAT EXIST ON THE

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SITE. PART OF WHAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT IS GENERAL REZONING BUT WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT THAT HAS A PROPOSED USE THAT I WILL GO INTO. THIS IS DEVELOPED AND HAS BEEN ON THE SITE FOR QUITE A WHILE AND SO YOU WILL SEE IN TERMS OF ACCESS MANAGEMENT.

THERE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS UP TO DATE IN TERMS OF RELATION. AND SO, AS WE GO THROUGH, WE WILL POINT OUT AND POINT OUT THAT REGARDLESS OF THE LAYOUT, THIS IS THE EXISTING FACILITY. THE PROPOSED USE IS ATLANTIC MARINE. THEY ARE A FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS THAT HAS TWO LOCATIONS. ONE IN PORT ORANGE AND ONE IN ST. JOHNS . THEY HAVE EXISTED FOR 20 YEARS IN ST. AUGUSTINE AND SO, THE PROPOSED USE IS TO ALLOW FOR AN EXPANSION OF THAT SERVICE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE RESIDENTS HERE REALLY ENJOY THE WATER RESOURCES WE HAVE. I THINK THAT ENJOYING THOSE AND HAVING EDUCATION OF HOW IMPORTANT THOSE ARE ARE REALLY GREAT. IN THIS LOCATION PROPOSED BY THE INTERCHANGE ALLOWS FOR REGIONAL SERVICE TO CUSTOMERS . WE DID GET A QUESTION ABOUT THE QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON-SITE AND SO WE DID INCLUDE, THE NEXT SLIDE, THEIR LOCATION JUST TO SHOW THE GENERAL LAYOUT AND STRUCTURE OF THIS FACILITY.

AGAIN, WE HAVE IT DONE SITE DESIGN ON THIS SITE. WE LOOK AT THE GENERAL AESTHETIC, LANDSCAPING AND CALIPER. THIS NEXT SLIDE IS CURRENT CONDITIONS AND FUTURE LAND USE OF THE ZONING IS THAT MIX OF CI AND OR . THE PROPOSED REZONING REALLY ROUNDS OFF THAT LINE WITH THE COMMERCIAL TO THE EAST AND, OF COURSE, THE MULTI FAMILY BESIDE IT TO STOP THE REAL DESIGNATION AT THE ST. JOHN'S RURAL PROPERTY. THE BLUE IS THE AREA THAT WE WOULD ACTIVELY BE REZONING. THE RED OVERALL IS THE OVERALL PROPERTY. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT FOOTPRINT ALREADY HAS ON THE SKILL USE AND THEN THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ON THE OTHER AND IT SENDS OUT TO THE OTHER. WE DID HAVE SOME STAFF COMMENTS IN TERMS OF DUE DILIGENCE . WE DID A PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT . THAT IDENTIFIED ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS AND THE FORMER AND CURRENT AUTOMATED USE ON THE SITE. WE DID FILL A HEAD JUST TO KNOCK THOSE OUT COMPLETELY ON PAGE TWO. ALL OF THE RESULTS CAME BACK CLEAN AND SO, THE RECS HAVE BEEN PHASED OUT ON PHASE TWO WHICH WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT. WE HAVE GOT A PRETTY GOOD IDEA IN TERMS OF PLANNING ON WHERE THE TREE PLACEMENT IS ON-SITE AND ALL OF THAT WOULD HAVE TO . IN THE STAFF REPORT, THEY DID TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CAPACITY ON THIS LENGTH OF STATE ROAD 16 AND IT IS NOTED IN THEIR THAT IT IS NORMALLY OVERCAPACITY. WHILE WE DON'T HAVE A SITE DESIGN THAT WAS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, WE WANTED TO GET A GENERAL IDEA FOR THE BOARD IN TERMS OF TRIP GENERATION AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK A MARINE SANDS USE WHICH IS A LITTLE BITTER BIGGER AND RAN THOSE NUMBERS. THERE ARE ABOUT 60 TRIPS OVER THE PORTION OF THE DAY. AND SO, WITH THAT TRIP GENERATION FOR THE PROPOSED USE, IT IS PRETTY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE CURRENT USE OF THE PROPERTY IS. THE CI OVERALL WOULD ALLOW MORE . WITH THAT, -- I WANT TO KNOW ON THE COMMENT, THERE IS A POTENTIAL HABITAT FOR TORTOISES ON THIS .

BEFORE THAT, A SURVEY WILL NEED TO BE COMPLETED. THE REQUEST IS REALLY TO JUST HAVE THAT CI APPLY ON A FULL BASIS A PARSE

ACROSS THE PARCEL. >> THANK YOU. BACK TO THE

AGENCY FOR COMMENTS. >> I WAS REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT AND INTERESTED IN THE PHASE ONE RESULTS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT AND IF YOU HAD ALREADY CONTRACTED ADONIS SITE IS OFTEN, THEY ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. YOU SAID IT CAME OUT

CLEAN? >> IT DID. NO FURTHER COMMENTS

WERE SUGGESTED. >> OKAY. THAT IS GOOD NEWS BECAUSE YOUR CLIENT WAS AWARE OF WHAT THAT COULD COST IT IS

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GOOD THAT IT IS CLEAN SO THE ONLY UPSTATE SOIL SO I GUESS --

>> I WOULD SAY IT IS ALL COSMETIC FROM THE AUTOMOTIVE

SALE. >> JUST CLEAN IT UP WITH A

SHOVEL. >> PUT QUICK DRY ON THERE.

>> FOUR SPECIMEN TREES ON THE SITE, DO YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR

THIS? >> WE DON'T HAVE A SITE LAYOUT AT THIS TIME. ONE, WE APPROVED THAT A MONTH AGO FOR THE MARINE SERVICE AND SALES FACILITY . THEY HAD, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY SPECIFICATIONS. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THEY HAD A DETAILED SITE PLAN FOR ALL THOSE THAT CAME TO US, BUT YOU DO INTEND

TO PRESERVE. >> I THINK THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT HAVING SURVEY REVIEWS COMPLETED IS NORMALLY WE COME IN RIGHT AS THE CLIENT HAS A CONCEPT PLAN IN MIND THEN THEY GO TO THE BOUNDARIES AFTER. SO HERE WE HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE AND CAN PLAN AROUND HOW EXACTLY HOW THEY WANT IT.

>> JUST IN TERMS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS AND

MATERIALS. >> I DIDN'T SEE IT. I DIDN'T READ THE ENTIRE APPLICATION, I WILL ADMIT. OKAY. THEY ARE THERE. AND YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A 25 FOOT BUFFER AND A 25 FOOT

SETBACK FROM THE WETLANDS . >> YEP. WE CAN CONFIRM THAT WITH STAFF AS WELL AND WE WILL FILL IN WHAT IS A BUFFER FROM MY MULTI FAMILY USE SITE. . THAT USE NEXT DOOR IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING. IT IS GOING TO GENERATE A LOT. WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE NEXT THING IS THE TRAFFIC. I DO LIKE BOATS.

SAILBOATS. I LIKE THEM. I THINK MARINE SALES AND SERVICE BUSINESS RIGHT AT THAT SPOT AT ST. ROAD 16 WILL BE A GOOD LOCATION. THE CLOSEST THAT I KNOW OF IS 207 RIGHT THERE IN ORANGE BOULEVARD. STATE ROAD 207. BUT I AM WORRIED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC 163% OVERCAPACITY WITH DAILY TRAFFIC, THAT IS A LOT.

AND I KNOW YOU SAID ABOUT 60 TRIPS FROM THE PORT ORANGE

FACILITY. >> THE 60 TRIPS IS AN ESTIMATE

BASED ON A LARGER FACILITY. >> A LARGER. NOT WHAT YOU WOULD

HAVE? >> RIGHT.

>> WHAT CONCERNS ME IS IF PEOPLE WERE GOING TO GO TOWARDS THE OCEAN, THEY PULL OUT OF THEIR AND THEIR BOAT IS ALL TUNED UP AND EVERY THING IS GREAT AND THE PORT IS LOOKING REALLY GOOD AND YOU WANT TO HEAD OUT TO THE IGUANAS OR TO THE RIVER OR THE OCEAN OR WHATEVER, YOU ARE GOING TO ULTIMATELY HAVE TO GO EAST AND THEY ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THAT IS PRETTY CLOSE DOWN THE ROAD TO THE WEST THERE IS A TURNAROUND RIGHT THERE BUT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE TRAILERING A BOAT AND THAT WORRIES ME ABOUT GOING OUT OF THERE AND DOING A U-TURN. THOSE RIGS CAN GET PRETTY LONG A BIG TRUCK. THAT IS PRETTY BIG TO TURNAROUND RIGHT THERE AND YOU HAVE THE DEPARTMENT COMICS. WE ARE JUST GOING TO GENERATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC OR SOME TRAFFIC WILL GO TO THE RIGHT ALONG THE ST. JOHNS RIVER AND SIX MILES CREEK OR WHATEVER, BUT THAT DOESN'T WORRY ME. IT CONCERNS ME. IT DOESN'T WORRY ME AS MUCH AS CONCERNS ME THAT WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE MORE DEVELOPMENT , SEGMENT AND LINK OF STATE ROAD 16 AND SING 63% OF TRAFFIC. LET ME SAY THAT I MAY VOTE AGAINST THIS BUT OVERALL IF IT PASSES, I THINK IT IS A GOOD COMPANY AND FAMILY AND VERY REPARABLE COMPANY. MAYBE I WOULD BUY ANOTHER BOAT

FROM THEM. I HOPE NOT, -- >>

>> I HAVE HAD THE BOATS. ANYWAY, I THINK THEY ARE A FINE REPARABLE COMPANY BUT I CONSIDER THIS ONLY BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC ON ROAD 16. IT IS NOTHING AGAINST THEM, JUST THE

LOCATION OF THIS PARCEL. >> WE UNDERSTAND THAT. WE ARE

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HOPING THAT BRINGING THIS SITE INTO COMPLIANCE WITH CURRENT REGULATIONS AND CURB CUTS BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE TWO USES RIGHT NOW AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE SITE. WHILE IT IS EXEMPT UNDER CONCURRENCY, THEY HAVE THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND THOSE WILL HAVE AN IMPROVEMENT.

>> I THINK Y'ALL ARE DOING A GOOD JOB. THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT THE TRAFFIC SO THAT BUT I'M GLAD PHASE TWO CAME OUT WELL AND THREES ARE GOING TO BE SAVED WITH ALL THE

BUFFERS AND EVERYTHING. >> JUDY?

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY EXCELLENT RECITATION. YOU ANSWERED ALMOST ALL MY QUESTIONS SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO ALSO SHARE DR.

HILSON'S BEST CONCERN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. THE ONE COMMENT THAT THE GENERAL MANAGER CODE NEXT-DOOR SAID THAT , I REALLY HOPE THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE INGRESS OR WHATEVER FOR CARS, HE SAID, BECAUSE AT LEAST ONCE OR TWICE A DAY, WE HAVE PEOPLE LAYING ON THEIR HORNS FOR PEOPLE TURNING IN AND THEY ARE RIGHT NEXT DOOR. WE LOVE THE IDEA OF PEOPLE COMING IN NEXT DOOR. THE PEOPLE WHO BIBLE BY LAWNMOWERS. SO HE WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IMPROVEMENT FOR THAT PROPERTY. THAT WILL BE GOOD FOR THE COUNTY. IT IS NOT A HUGE NUMBER. BUT THEY SORT OF OFFSET EACH OTHER. THERE IS A CONCLUSION. YOU HAVE EVERY TREE ON YOUR ENTIRE PROPERTY MAPPED OUT AND NUMBER AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND ALL OF THE SPECIMEN TREES ARE ALONG THE SOUTHWEST SIDE, RIGHT ALONG THE BOUNDARY LINE, SO, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TOO HUGE OF A PROBLEM GETTING THE TRIP LINES AND GETTING YOUR SITE DESIGNED ALONG THAT. I REALLY WAS RELIEVED AND CALLED GEORGE THIS MORNING AND SHE SENT THE EMAIL THAT DISCUSSED PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL SURVEY AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU HEADING THAT DOWN IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING TODAY SO I THINK I WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS AND I TOTALLY WISH THAT MEGAN PERKINS 17 AND STACY'S. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. >> JUST MORE OF A STAFF QUESTION. ARE THEY FAR ENOUGH IN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW THAT TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE A CONCERN FOR THE COMPANY?

>> THROUGH THE CHAIR AND TO MR. GREEN'S QUESTION, ULTIMATELY, THE APPLICANT IS NOT ANY DEVELOPMENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. WE ARE IN THE ZONING PROCESS , SO, OF COURSE, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN AS WE GO FORWARD RIGHT NOW,

THERE IS NO STRAIGHT REASON. >> ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD FOR

TRANSPORTATION? >> OKAY.

>> MANAGEMENT. I CAN LET YOU KNOW THAT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX JUST TO THE WEST IS MAKING A MEDIAN MODIFICATION, AS REQUIRED BY D.O.T., SO THAT FULL MEDIAN OPENING YOU WERE SPEAKING OF WILL BECOME A DIRECTIONAL MEDIAN OPENING WITH LEFT TURN LANES IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. AND THEN, THE ACCESS TO THIS SITE OBVIOUSLY IS ON STATE ROAD AND WILL BE PERMITTED THROUGH F D.O.T. SO THEY WILL BE REQUIRING TO DO WHATEVER F

D.O.T. REQUIRES THEM TO DO. >> SORT OF HELP ME OUT HERE.

>> D.O.T. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE A LAND OF "AND IF OUR CODE REQUIRES SOMETHING, THEN D.O.T. SUPPORTS US AND WHAT WE REQUIRE THEM TO DO PROVIDED THERE IS NOT A REASON WHY THEY CAN'T.

SOMETIMES THERE ARE STRUCTURES IN THE WAY OR DRAINAGE ISSUES OR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT D.O.T. MAY BE FOCUSED ON AND SOMETIMES NOT. SOMETIMES, THEY DO NOT PERMIT WHAT WE REQUIRE BUT

SOMETIMES THEY DO. >> I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT WHAT I AM VOTING ON AND WHAT I DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT.

>>

>> SO, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? >> SURE.

>> SINCE YOU ARE RIGHT THERE. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF I AM PICKING MICHAEL OUT THERE AND PUTTING IT ONTO STANDARD 16 AND I'M WILLING TO GO EAST ENTER RIGHT FIRST AND HAVE TO DO A U-TURN, THERE IS GOING TO BE A DEDICATED LEFT TURN LANE FOR ME

TO PULL INTO WITH MY BOAT? >> YES.

>> BEFORE I DO A U-TURN? >> I WOULD GUESS D.O.T. HAS THE ULTIMATE DECISION ON WHERE THEIR DRIVEWAY LOCATION IS . I

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AM SURE THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT PUSHED AS FAR EAST AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WHEN THEY PULL OUT, THEY COULD TECHNICALLY ALMOST PULLOUT THAT LEFT TURN LANE.

>> THAT WILL BE GREAT. >> WELL, THAT MAY CHANGE MY

VOTE. >>

>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE ARE BACK

TO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION IF THAT

IS OKAY. >> SURE.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE -- RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF OUR EASY

[2. SUPMIN 2024-04 Murray-Gonzales Flores Mobile Home. Request for a Special Use Permit to allow for a Manufactured/Mobile Home as a residence in Residential, Single Family (RS-3) zoning, pursuant to Land Development Code, Section 2.03.08., specifically located at 200 N. Brevard St. (Part 2 of 2)]

2024-0 1974 STATE ROAD 16 AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> ANY SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION. IT

IS A GOOD YEAR, 1974. >>

>> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. REGISTER OUR VOTE.

MOTION PASSES, 6-0. CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> OKAY. I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER TWO FOR ONE MORE STAB AT THIS. MR. BETTINGER IS

HERE. >> WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU. I AM HERE TO REPRESENT MISS MARY GONZALES FLOREZ. SHE HAS APPLIED FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO PLACE A MOBILE HOME IN A RESIDENTIAL THREE NEIGHBORHOOD SO, HERE IS THE AREA ON BREVARD STREET . JUST NORTH OF KING STREET.

>>

-- >> RSA ZONING SURROUNDS THE ENTIRE PARCEL. RESIDENTIAL D FUTURE LAND USE WITH THAT ONE.

HERE IS THE SITE PLAN AND PICTURES OF THE HOME. IT IS BRAND-NEW . 2024 MOBILE HOME . AND ALL TOWING EQUIPMENT WILL

BE REMOVED. >>

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR

COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? >> I JUST WANTED TO CLARFY THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU PROVIDED WAS A LITTLE BIT HARD TO READ AND WE HAD A FORMER CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. THIS RECTANGULAR STRUCTURE TO THE LEFT IS GOING TO BE FOR THE SEPTIC MATTERS,

IS THAT CORRECT? >> IS CORRECT. FRONT LEFT IS

THE SEPTIC SYSTEM. >> AND WE CAN SEE THE PHOTO OF THE AREA WILL BE REMOVED AND THAT BISECTS THE PROPERTY. IN ALL PREVIOUS STRUCTURES WILL BE REMOVED AND BE REPLACED ON THE

PROPERTY? >> THAT IS CORRECT. THERE IS A RECREATION VEHICLE PARKED THAT WILL BE MOVED .

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY EXPERTISE FOR THIS ITEM BUT IF THERE ISN'T ANY, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO THE BOARD TO

DISCLOSE IT. >> I THOUGHT WE DID X MARTE AND

THEY WERE HERE? >> MY BAD. WE DID NOT.

>> I THINK WE DID AND IT WAS IN HERE. DOES THAT COUNT?

>> ACTUALLY, THAT WOULD COUNT. >>

>> SORRY. >> I JUST WANTED TO NOTE, YOU DIDN'T MENTION IN THE STAFF THAT THERE ARE TWO OTHER MOBILE HOMES VERY CLOSE BY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SO, THAT IS A GOOD

POINT IN YOUR FAVOR. >> YES. AND IT WAS JUST INTERESTING. WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING THIS EARLIER. ON A SEMI REGULAR BASIS, THEY ARE NEW MOBILE HOMES.

>> I WOULD AGREE. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. I DON'T SEE ANYBODY LEFT FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS SO, WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

>> CAN I MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ONE?

[Staff Reports]

>> THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE SUPMIN 2024-04 MURRAY-GONZALES FLORES MOBILE HOME AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF

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REPORT. >> YOU HAVE A MOTION?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR WAITING

FOR ME. I APPRECIATE IT. >> ANY STAFF REPORTS?

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WILL MENTION AGAIN WE HAVE A OPEN HOUSE FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON THE 23RD. THERE ARE TWO TIME SLOTS. I WILL PUT THOSE UP REALLY QUICK. WE'RE HAVING

[Agency Reports]

BETWEEN 10:00 A.M. AND 12:00 P.M. EVEN SLOT FROM 5:00 TO 7:30.

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