[Call meeting to order] [00:00:37] >>> IT IS 3:00. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER FOR JULY 8, 2024 AND WE WILL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >>> ÊI PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.Î >> WE WILL START WITH THE READING OF THE NOTICE. >> THIS IS A MEETING HOLD IN ACCORDANCE WITH FOR THE LAW AND THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT AT A TIME DESIGNATED DURING THE HEARING. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC DESIRING TO SPEAK MAY DO SO BY FILLING OUT THE SIGN IN SHEET AVAILABLE IN THE FOYER. THE PUBLIC SO SPEAK AT A TIME DURING THE MEETING ON EACH ITEM FOR A LENGTH OF TIME DESIGNATED BY THE CHAIRMAN, WHICH SHALL BE THREE MINUTES. SPEAKER SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, WHO THEY REPRESENT AND -- THEY MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIMONY. ALTHOUGH THE TESTIMONY IS NOT -- OF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL A MATTER SETS SUCH PERSON WILL NEED TO ENSURE THAT THE VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDING IS MADE WHICH INCLUDES TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH IT IS --. ANY DOCUMENT TERRY EVIDENCE PRESENTED LIKE WRITTEN STATEMENTS SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE CLERK FOR INCLUSION. THE RECORD WILL THEN BE AVAILABLE FOR THE BOARD, AGENCIES, COMMITTEES TO REVIEW. AGENCY MEMBERS ARE REMINDED OF THAT AT [Minutes for Board Approval: 05/06/2024] THE BEGINNIG OF EACH ITEM THEY SHOULD STATE IF THEY HAD ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT OR ANY OTHER PERSON REGARDING THIS OUTSIDE THE FORMAL HEARING OF THE AGENCY. IF SUCH COMMUNICATION HAS OCCURRED AGENCY MEMBERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THE PERSONS INVOLVED IN THE MATERIAL CONTENT OF THE COMMUNICATION. WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL TO ONE ANOTHER IF WE DISAGREE AND WE WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS ON THE ISSUES AND AVOID PERSONAL ATTACK. THE FIRST ITEM WE HAVE IS THE MEETING MINUTES PER THE BOARD APPROVAL FROM MAY 6. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? HEARING THAT I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE MAY 6 MEETING. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> APPROVED. [1. San Juan Drive Parking Ordinance. Public Hearing – Proposed amendment to the Ponte Veda Zoning District Regulations (PVZDR) Ordinance NO. 2003-05, as amended; Amending Section IX.D,” off-street parking- General provisions” to modify San Juan Drive Parking Requirements and limitations.] >> WE HAVE ONLY ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA. IT IS THE SAN JUAN DRIVE PARKING ORDINANCE. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT THAT IS NOT ON THE ONE ITEM NOW. NOT SEEING ANY I WILL MOVE ON TO THE FIRST ITEM. THE SAN JUAN DRIVING PARKING COORDINATES. OR BEFORE I DO THAT, LET ME INTRODUCE. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF NEW FACES HERE. JACOB SMITH IS THE NEW PLANNING DIVISION MANAGER AND KEISHA THINK IS THE NEW PRINCIPAL PLANNER. >> THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION AND I WANT TO SAY HELLO TO THE BOARD AND INTRODUCE MYSELF. I PREVIOUSLY SERVED AS THE -- PLANNER TO THIS BOARD. I JUST WANT TO ADD [00:05:01] THAT IF ANYBODY ON THIS BOARD NEEDS ANYTHING I YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO REACH OUT AND I WILL HELP IN ANY WAY THAT I CAN. SECONDARILY, KEISHA THINK WILL BE REPLACING BRANDON -- AS THE PLANNER FOR PONTE VEDRA. >> WE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU BACK. >> NOW WE CAN GET STARTED ON THE SAN JUAN DRIVE PARKING ORDINANCE. >> IT SEEMS OUR APPLICANT MAY BE RUNNING A BIT BEHIND BUT I CAN RUN THROUGH SOME OF THE SLIDES AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS I WILL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER . IF THERE ARE PRESSING QUESTIONS, SAVE YOUR BREATH. JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND , IN APRIL WE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM THE MSD ASKING TO SEE IF WE COULD BRING FORWARD A SAN JUAN PARKING ORDINANCE AND IT IS VERY SIMILAR IN A THE MATERIAL AS THEY PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD PARKING ORDINANCE WAS PASSED IN 2021. SO, I WILL BRIEFLY GO OVER THESE AND BRAD WILL PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THEM A BIT MORE. SAN JUAN DRIVE IS A LOCAL ROAD IN PONTE VEDRA. THE LENGTH OF THAT ROAD FROM SOLANO ROAD OR, I GUESS THE SOUTHERNMOST PART IS FROM SOLANO ROAD AND IT EXTENDS TO THE NORTH TO PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD. AND, THERE HE IS. I WILL GIVE YOU THIS. >> THANK YOU. I AM BRAD WESTER AND I AM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PONTE VEDRA MSD. I AM AN MSD TRUSTEE AND I LIVE AT 628 -- BOULEVARD. I AM SORRY I'M RUNNING LATE. COMING UP THE BOULEVARD THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. WE WILL GET STARTED HERE. WE ARE ON SAN JUAN DRIVE. JUST AS A QUICK SUMMARY, I AM ON MY SECOND FOUR YEAR TERM AS A TRUSTEE AND I HAVE BEEN OVER THE BEACH ACCESS, THE BEACHES, RENOURISHMENT, SIDEWALKS. THE FOR COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS AND THIS ONE ON SAN JUAN DRIVE STARTED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO INSTALL A SIDEWALK ALONG SAN JUAN DRIVE AND FROM THAT THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY AND A NO PARKING SIGNAGE POTENTIALLY ON SAN JUAN DRIVE. THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM IS GONE AS FAR AS THE COMMITMENT FROM THE INVESTEE. THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE BY ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND THE PARKING ORDINANCE ON SAN JUAN DRIVE, THEY ARE NOT EXCLUSIVE TO ONE ANOTHER BUT THEY DO PARTICIPATE WITH ONE ANOTHER AS FAR AS MAKING THAT LOCAL ROAD FLOW. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE GENESIS OF THAT REALLY QUICK. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE SIDEWALK PROJECT COULD BE DELAYED. IT IS A TWO LANE ROAD BETWEEN SOLANO ROAD AND PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD. IT HAS A REGULAR PAVEMENT WITH. THERE IS A POSTED 25 MILES PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT. YOU CAN SEE THE DEPICTION OF THIS AMENDMENT. IT IS A TWO-MILE STRETCH AND IT IS AN A REGULAR PAVEMENT SHAPE. IT GOES DOWN TO 19 IN SOME AREAS. IT MEANDERS SO THE PAVEMENT WITH IS NOT HAVE UNIFORMITY IN TERMS OF THE TWO-MILE STRETCH. THE MAIN ISSUES ARE COMMERCIAL CONTRACTORS, RESIDENTS, AND THE GUEST PARK. THE PARKED VEHICLES IMPEDE THE FLOW OF PEDESTRIAN [00:10:05] AND BICYCLES. WE HAVE DONE SAFE CONDITIONS LIKE MEANDERING INTO THE ONCOMING FLOW OF TRAFFIC. THE CUT THROUGH , SAN JUAN IS REALLY A CUT THROUGH . THIS REQUEST IS SPONSORED BY THE MSD TRUSTEES. THE RESIDENTS HAVE ASKED FOR IT. THERE WAS A PARKING ORDINANCE ON PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD THAT PREVENTED PARKING ON THE BOULEVARD ITSELF AND IT HAS IMPROVED THE FLOW OF THAT BOULEVARD. THIS DOES ADDRESS SAFETY CONCERNS AND THIS HAS ALLOWED MANY TO USE THE STREET BASICALLY WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD , FOLKS WERE ESSENTIALLY USING PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD AS A PERSONAL PARKING SPACE FOR ALL KINDS OF THINGS WHEN THEY CAN PULL INTO THE DRIVEWAY TO SERVE THE LOT THAT THE YEAR UTILIZING. MANY OF THE PROPERTIES HAVE A CIRCULAR DRIVE OR TWO ACCESS POINTS AND TRUCKS COULD PARK HERE BUT THE REAL LIFE THEY COULD PARK ON PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD AND PUT OUT SOME CONES AND THEN LEAVE. SAN JUAN IS VERY MUCH LIKE THAT WHERE PEOPLE PARK ALONG THE SAN JUAN DRIVE AND THERE REALLY IS NO RHYME OR REASON. BECAUSE THERE IS NO SIDEWALKS FOLKS HAVE TO BICYCLE ON THE PAVEMENT AND THAT CREATES A TRAFFIC CONFLICT FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE THERE IS NO CONTINUITY AS TO WHERE THEY SHOULD PARK. EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE ARE PUBLIC SERVICE LAKE PACKAGE DELIVERY. SCHOOL BUSES, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE, K-12. BASICALLY, IF A DELIVERY TRUCK IS DELIVERING APPLIANCES OR FURNITURE THEY WOULD USE A FLAGMAN TO MOVE TRAFFIC AROUND AND THEN THE PARKING UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO THAT IS FOR LIKE PARTIES. YOU CAN GET A PERMIT FOR VALET PARKING OR WHATNOT. THAT STILL EXISTS AND THIS WOULD MIMIC WHAT IS GOING ON ON PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD. SIGNAGE, THEY DON'T WANT NO PARKING SIGNS ALONG THE THOROUGHFARE SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS USE SIGNAGE JUST LIKE PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD. THERE WOULD BE A NO PARKING SIGN INSTEAD OF ALONG THE CORRIDOR ITSELF WE CLEANS UP THE SIGNAGE. IT WOULD DESCRIBE THE CITATION AND THE RULE ON THE MSD WEBSITE AND THE COUNTY. THESE ARE CARS COMING AROUND WITH FOLKS WALKING ON SAN JUAN DRIVE BECAUSE THERE IS NO SIDEWALK AND YOU CAN SEE FOLKS PARK AROUND THAT CURVE AND THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT PEOPLE DO. THIS IS A COMBINATION OF SERVICE VEHICLES AND PRIVATE RESIDENCE. THAT EXISTS UP AND DOWN THE SAN JUAN DRIVE. THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT WHERE TREES EXIST. PEOPLE JUST PARK AT THERE WILL AND WHEREVER THEY WANT SO IT DOES CREATE CONFLICT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION BY FOLKS THAT HAVE SERVED ON THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. THEY SAY WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING AND THE SIDEWALK WAS ONE OF THEM. AND THAT THERE WAS A WHAT IF WE DO A NO PARKING ORDINANCE BECAUSE, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THEY CANNOT TICKET SOMEBODY OR ENFORCE THE NO PARKING RULE IF THERE IS NOT SIGNAGE THERE. THIS BEING A LOCAL ROAD, AND APPARENTLY THERE ARE OTHER RULES ABOUT THE SPEED AND THE DRIVE ITSELF, AND THE STRIPING. SO, WHAT WE CAME UP WITH WAS MAYBE THE BEST OPTION IS, AND THIS IS THROUGH A NUMBER OF MSD MEETINGS THAT POSSIBLY DOING OR ENTERTAINING AN ORDINANCE JUST LIKE PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD . WE THINK THIS IS PROBABLY A REALLY GOOD OPTION IN ADDITION TO WHAT IS SOCIALLY TO COME ON THE SIDEWALK. THE COUNTY DID A TRAFFIC STUDY ON THIS. TO SEE IF IT WAS WORTHY OF A TRAFFIC CALMING AND IT IS POSTED AT A [00:15:06] 25 MILES PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT BUT THOSE TRAFFIC CALMING WOULD BE LIKE SPEED TABLES OR SPEED BUMPS. NONE OF THAT MET THE CRITERIA FOR TRAFFIC CALMING AND SOME WILL SAY, WHEN YOU PARKED CARS ON THERE LIKE THAT, FOLKS HAVE TO MEANDER THROUGH THAT AND IT DOES NOT CALM TRAFFIC. I BELIEVE DURING THE PREVIOUS PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD ORDINANCE THERE WERE FOLKS THAT CAME UP AND TESTIFIED AND SAID THAT IS NOT AN IMPROVEMENT SO WE FEEL, IN CONSIDERATION THAT THE BEST OPTION IS TO DO A PARKING ORDINANCE SO THAT THE SHERIFF CAN ENFORCE THE LAWS OUT THERE AS FAR AS RIGHT-OF-WAY AND PARKING. WE FEEL THAT SAN JUAN DRIVE , UNLIKE LEMASTER , THIS ONE IS UNIQUE WITH THE CURVE RADIUS ALONG THE TRAVERSE OF THE CORRIDOR. IT IS BEST TO HAVE A PARKING ORDINANCE. THE MAJORITY HAS BEEN FOR THIS. SOME FOLKS JUST DON'T WANT CHANGE BUT THAT IS WHY WE ARE VETTING THIS. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I APOLOGIZE FOR MY TARDINESS. SHALL I START? >> YOU DID A GOOD JOB EXPLAINING WHAT YOU WANT THIS ORDINANCE. MY FIRST QUESTION IS, WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST GO AHEAD AND MODIFY AND INCLUDE SAN JUAN DRIVE INTO THE PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD ORDINANCE? >> AT THE TIME THE PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD ORDINANCE ALREADY EXISTED AND IT HAD SOME LOOPHOLES IN IT. WE CLEANED UP THOSE LOOPHOLES BECAUSE FOLKS WERE ACTUALLY PARKING AND THEN TEMPORARILY MOVING AND PLAYING A GAME WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SAYING I JUST MOVE MY CAR BY A FEW INCHES OR A FEW FEET. AT THAT TIME WE FELT IT WAS BEST TO GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT THE ORDINANCE CHANGE AND UPDATE PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD AND THAT LED TO THIS DISCUSSION. WE LOOKED AT, CAN WE DO THAT IN A SAN JUAN. THAT WAS AN OVERWHELMING REQUEST AND THE ANSWER WAS WE CAN MAKE THAT REQUEST. WE CAN VET THAT. WE HAVE TALKED WITH FOLKS BECAUSE, DURING HIGH-TRAFFIC WEEKENDS, SPECIFICALLY, FOLKS WILL PARK ALONG ANY KIND OF RIGHT AWAY JUST TO GET BEACH ACCESS AND WE HAVE ASKED TO PUT TEMPORARY NO PARKING SIGNS OUT THERE AND IT HAS COME BACK THAT NO WE CAN'T BECAUSE YOU CAN PARK IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. WE HAVE ALL BEEN STRAPPED ABOUT TEMPORARY SIGNAGE JUST TO IMPLEMENT THAT ALONG THE GOLF COURSE. WE FEEL BECAUSE OF THE CURVED NATURE OF THE ROADWAY, AND THE FACT THAT IT DOES NOT HAVE CURBING ITSELF, IT DOES SERVE AS A CUT THROUGH ROADWAY AND THOSE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME TO US -- BUT THAT IS THE REASON WHY. THIS IS SERVED AS THE BLUEPRINT, THE PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD ORDINANCE, SO WE LOOKED THAT CAR CAN WE DO THIS ON SAN JUAN DRIVE. >> DID YOU CONSIDER INCLUDING CORONA AND CELANO -- SOLANA ROAD? >> IT WAS JUST ISOLATED TO SAN JUAN DRIVE. SOLANO IS MOSTLY CURVED BUT LEMASTER AND DISTRICT REGULATIONS, RELATING TO OFF-STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND LIMITATIONS, WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES: EIGHT HAS ITS OWN CHARACTERISTIC SO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD IS THAT IF WE DO A DOUBLE STRIPE LINE WE CAN PROHIBIT PARKING AND THAT IS INTUITIVE TO WHAT SAN JUAN DRIVE IS ALL ABOUT. I USED TO LIVE ON SAN JUAN DRIVE FOR MANY YEARS AND AS A TRUSTEE WE ARE HERE TO COMMENT MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT THE COMMON VOICES ASKING FOR. ISN'T PERFECT? PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD ? NO. PEOPLE STILL PARKED THERE. [00:20:07] >> BUT IT IS MUCH BETTER. >> IT IS MUCH BETTER. >> I DRIVE IT SEVERAL TIMES A DAY. >> THAT'S RIGHT. IT IS A LEARNED BEHAVIOR BY THE FOLKS THAT PARK THERE. THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT DO RENOVATIONS OR SERVICE THE LAWNS AND HOUSES ALONG PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD AND IT IS A LEARNED BEHAVIOR INCLUDING WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. IT TOOK A COUPLE OF YEARS FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THE ORDINANCE AND HOW IT SHOULD BE APPLIED. ARE THERE EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE THAT ARE SILENT? ABSOLUTELY. IF SOMEBODY IS OUT THERE FLAGGING TRAFFIC DOWN, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL ALLOW THEM ND WORK WITH THEM. BUT FOR REPEAT OFFENDERS THAT JUST THINK THAT BOULEVARD, SAN JUAN DRIVE, THE THING THAT IS A PARKING SPACE BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE. IF WE HAD SIDEWALKS ON SAN JUAN DRIVE, IT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT STORY. BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE. THAT IS IS IT'S OWN SITUATION. >> SO, I ASKED ABOUT THROUGH FOUR YEARS AGO WHY THERE WEREN'T SIDEWALKS. >> THE MSD HAS COMMITTED $300,000 FROM THE SIDEWALK BUDGET AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE COMMITTED 200,000 FROM --. WE HAVE TWO SEGMENTS THAT WE HAVE PITCHED TO THE COUNTY TO DO A SIDEWALK FROM SOLANA BOULEVARD UP TO MARANA AND THEN UP TO PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD . THERE ARE TWO SEGMENTS WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH BUT FOR RIGHT NOW THEY ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. WE STILL FEEL THAT REMOVING PARKING FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO ON SAN JUAN DRIVE. >> THE DEFINITION OF UTILITY VEHICLES. LIKE A JAY EIGHT TRUCK , IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. I WOULD SAY IT IS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SO ST. JOHNS COUNTY COULD BE OUT THERE . IT COULD BE SOME OTHERS THAT ARE DOING UTILITIES. WE HAVE A LOT OF UTILITY WORK GOING ON OUT THERE FOR RENOVATIONS AND THEY ARE PLACING FIBER OUT THERE AND THEY ARE DOING A LOT OF DIRECTIONAL BORING TO LAY FIBER CABLE. THOSE ARE IMPORTANT INFRASTRUCTURE PROVIDERS . >> SO IT DOES NOT INCLUDE UPS AND FEDEX? >> THEY ARE LOUD. THEY ARE IN AND OUT WEEKLY. >> AS IT IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, UPS AND FEDEX TRUCKS ARE NOT ADDRESSED. >> THEY ARE. PACKAGE DELIVERY AND MAIL. THIS IS REALLY MIMICKING. >> SO MAIL DELIVERY DOES INCLUDE THAT. OKAY. IN THE NEW LANGUAGE YOU LEFT OUT THE LANGUAGE BULK MATERIALS TO BE DELIVERED. BEING A CONTRACTOR I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO HAVE BULK DELIVERIES. WHY DID YOU LEAVE THAT OUT? >> I DON'T THINK THAT WAS INTENTIONAL. I AGREE WITH THAT. THERE ARE THINGS THAT MAY NEED TO BE DELIVERED. COMING UP THE BOULEVARD THERE WAS A 100 FOOT CRANE HOISTING UP SOME GIRDERS. FROM TIME TO TIME THAT IS NEEDED AND WARRANTED. THAT WE WILL SAY, WE DON'T WANT SAN JUAN DRIVE TO BE THE WILD WILD WEST THEY DO NEED TO HAVE A FLAGMAN. I HAVE REPORTED ON MY OWN, IF I SEE FOLKS NOT ADHERING TO THE RULE I WILL TIP OFF OUR LOCAL DEPUTIES AND SAY, PLEASE REMIND THEM THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE A FLAGMAN OR SOMEBODY GUIDING TRAFFIC. THE OPPOSITION WILL SAY THAT PARKING OF THE ROAD SLOWS TRAFFIC DOWN BUT IT GETS PEOPLE IMPATIENT AND THEY END UP FLOORING IT AROUND THE CARS THAT ARE PARKED THERE. IT BECOMES VERY UNSAFE. WE ARE TRYING TO ELIMINATE THE VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN CONFLICTS OUT THERE. >> IT SHALL REQUIRE AN ON-SITE FLAG PERSON. THAT IS LEFT OUT. SO, THAT COULD REQUIRE A [00:25:06] FLAGMAN? >> THE FLAGMAN ARE NEEDED. IF THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT BACK IN THERE WE CAN. >> SO IF A FURNITURE TRUCK IS DELIVERING FURNITURE, THEY NEED TO GET A FLAGMAN? >> USUALLY THEY COME WITH MULTIPLE FOLKS SO ONE GUY CAN BE OUT THERE WAVING TRAFFIC AROUND BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS AN EXACT SCIENCE ON HOW THAT IS DONE. BUT SOMEBODY THAT HAS AT LEAST DUE CAUTION , SOME OF THOSE 40 OR 50 FOOT TRUCKS DEMAND A WAY TO PULL PEOPLE AROUND THEM WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME WHEN PEOPLE ARE DELIVERING BIG PALM TREES ON A FLATBED. WHERE YOU HAVE LAWN MAINTENANCE FOLKS HELPING GUIDE TRAFFIC AROUND. >> THE STIPULATION ON FURNITURE AND APPLIANCE MOVES IN MOVANTS FOR PEOPLE MOVING IN, IS IT ONLY FOR SOMEBODY MOVING IN? >> IT IS MOVING AROUND. THAT IS INTENDED TO PUT A BREAK BETWEEN THE CONSISTENT SERVICE PROVIDERS ON A PARCEL LOT. VERSUS MORE OF A ONE-OFF EVENT WITH A LARGER TRUCK THAT MAY IMPEDE OR TAKE UP A LARGER ROOM. WE UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THAT AND WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD IN EXCEPTIONS. SO IT IS MOVE IN AND MOVE OUT. >> GO FOR A GATHERING OF LESS THAN 10 VEHICLES YOU REQUIRE AN OFFICER TO BE ON STAFF? >> OR A PSA. >> SO THE IMPLICATION WOULD BE IF I INVITE FOUR COUPLES OVER, WOULD I NEED THAT? >> IF THEY ARE PARKING ON THE STREET WITH THAT MANY CARS, I BELIEVE SO. THAT HAS WORKED ON PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD SO WE ARE JUST TRYING TO CARRY THAT ON. >> SO THIS IS JUST OF THERE HAS TO BE PARKING ON SAN JUAN DRIVE? >> YES, SIR. >> THAT IS IT FOR ME FOR NOW. >> HELP ME UNDERSTAND, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE ON THE SIDEWALK? >> THE TIMELINE ON THE SIDEWALK IS THAT RIGHT NOW THE MSD TRUSTEES , THE TRUSTES, WE ARE GOING THROUGH DIFFERENT INNOVATIONS AND OPTIONS. WE HAVE COMMITTED TO FUNDING AND WE HAVE THAT MONEY READY TO GIVE. I AM PROUD TO SAY I AM A CREDIT TO THE SIDEWALK BUDGET BECAUSE WHEN I STARTED THERE WAS NOTHING IN THERE SO WE PUT A LOT IN THERE TO SHOW OUR DEDICATION TO THE CAUSE. NOW WE ARE PITCHING THAT WE WILL PAY FOR THE SURVEYING AND THE FRONT-END DESIGN OF IT AND THEN WE WILL GIVE IT BACK TO THE COUNTY TO EXPEDITE THE DESIGN. I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC DATA BUT MY TERM IS UP IN DECEMBER THIS YEAR AND I HOPE THAT SOMETHING IS MOVING BEFORE THAT. MSD HAS MONEY AND WE HAVE $50,000 DEDICATED TO THE NORTH SECTION AND 30,000 DEDICATED TO THE SOUTH SECTION. RIGHT NOW, IT HAD BEEN COMMITTED THAT THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING FOR THE SIDEWALKS BUT THAT HAS BEEN PULLED BACK A BIT SO WE HAVE TRIED TO SPLIT IT UP INTO MORE MANAGEABLE SECTIONS. AND ALSO POSSIBLY HAVING DIFFERENT DELIVERY VEHICLES, IF YOU WILL, PER THAT CONTRACT. THERE ARE A LOT OF DRAINAGE ISSUES OUT THERE SO THAT REQUIRES TRUSTEES TO SPEARHEAD AND BE STEWARDS OF IT AND THE ENTIRE SAN JUAN DRIVE NEEDS A FULL SURVEY AND A TOPOGRAPHIC SURVEY, IF YOU WILL. WE ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR THAT OUT OF THAT FUNDING SO INSTEAD OF GIVING DOLLARS AMOUNT WE WILL GIVE A RECEIPT OF WHAT THE SURVEY ARE CHARGED US. IT IS SORT OF A SOFT COST. I WOULD HOPE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS WE HAVE GOT ONE OR BOTH SEGMENTS UNDERWAY IF THE SURVEYING AND HOPEFULLY BY THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR, IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED IT EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND I SAY THE SAME THING. THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE NEXT YEAR WE HOPE TO HAVE SOME MOVEMENT. IT HAS BECOME VERY POLITICAL. FOLKS WANT A SIDEWALK BUT THEY WANTED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, IF YOU WILL. I AM TRYING TO COMPROMISE AND SAY WE UNDERSTAND THAT VERY WELL AND SOME OF IT IS ENVIRONMENTAL. ABOUT ONE THIRD OF SAN JUAN DRIVE, THERE ARE -- THAT MEET [00:30:02] THE PAVEMENT EDGE. SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE SAYING LET'S DESIGN THAT ANOTHER DAY AND LET'S GET SOME ENERGY MOVING WITH SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS AND WHAT SOLANA BOULEVARD TO MIRANDA WOULD DO WOULD BE LINK UP SIDEWALK TO SIDEWALK. THEN WE HAVE AN INHERENT LOOP BACK TO THE CLUB AND OTHER BEACH INFRASTRUCTURE. THE SAME THING ON THE NORTH AND. I AM HOPING, AND I KNOW THERE ARE TRUSTEES WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THIS, BUT THEY DO MORE IF THE STORM WATER SIDE AND WE COME UP WITH A PLAN TO POTENTIALLY GET ALL OF THE SURVEYING DONE UNDER OUR PURVIEW AND THAT WOULD HELP EXPEDITE THIS. I'M HOPING BY THE FIRST QUARTER NEXT YEAR WE HAVE SOMETHING IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION. >> THANK YOU. I LOOK AT THIS FROM A SIDEWALK PERSPECTIVE AND A PARKING PERSPECTIVE. IT IS MORE OF A SAFETY ISSUE FOR RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY. I DON'T GO SAN JUAN DRIVE AND MY WIFE DOES NOT AND PARKING IS A HUGE ISSUE. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THE MSD BOARD MEETING. HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISSENT FROM THE TRUSTEES? >> ANYTIME YOU CHANGE OR AMEND OR UPDATE SOMETHING, THAT HAPPENS. IT OVERWHELMINGLY HAS BEEN UNANIMOUS FROM THE TRUSTEES TO IMPLEMENT THIS AND ALLOW ME TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE TRUSTEES. SO I CAN SAY THAT. THEY HAVE FAITH IN ME TO PUSH THIS FORWARD. I WAS SUCCESSFUL IN CUTTING THE PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD ONE DONE. I BELIEVE IT WAS UNANIMOUS AND IF THERE IS MOM, I DON'T WANT TO BE MISREPRESENTED BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS -- THAT ALLOWED THEORDINANCE TO TAKE PLACE AND MOVE FORWARD. AND THAT IS THE PRODUCT OF FOLKS THAT HAVE COME TO US. I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE FOLKS THAT HAVE CONCERN ABOUT TAKING AWAY THEIR PARKING. ALL I CAN SAY IS, FOLKS ALONG THE BOULEVARD , THEY SAY IT HAS WORKED LIKE A GEM AND IT HAS CHANGED THE FLOW AND THE SAFETY AND WE HOPE IT DOES THE SAME ON SAN JUAN DRIVE. I HAVE HEARD OPTIONS THAT, THE WAY I LOOK AT THE SIDEWALK, IN THE NEXT 18 MONTHS OR TWO YEARS MAXIMUM , WE COULD HAVE THE SECOND SEGMENT DONE AND FROM THERE THERE IS STILL A BIG SEGMENT THAT IS NOT BUILT YET. WE STILL NEED PARKING REGULATIONS THERE. THEY ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. JUST LIKE THE COUNTY HAS SAID THAT FOLKS PARKING ON SAN JUAN DRIVE AROUND THE BOULEVARD, IT IS NOT AN ENGINEERING PRACTICE THAT IS --. THIS IS TO MIMIC WHAT HAS BEEN DONE ON PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD AND THAT IS A HEALTHY WAY TO PROVIDE SAFETY FOR SAN JUAN DRIVE. >> SO MY NEXT QUESTION, TRAFFIC CALMING WOULD BE AWESOME. >> I AGREE. >> SAN JUAN DRIVE IS A LOCAL ROAD AND IT IS A MAJOR COLLECTOR. SOLANA BOULEVARD IS ALSO A COLLECTOR AND THEY CARRY A DIFFERENT LOAD OF TRAFFIC. THEY ARE DOUBLE STRIPED AND THERE ARE SEGMENTS OF THE CORRIDOR THAT ARE CURVED AND ALL OF THOSE CARRY DIFFERENT ENGINEERING PRACTICES THAT ARE PLAYING INTO THE SPEED ON THOSE ROADS. AND THE SPEED THAT COULD BE. WE HAVE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING. EVEN IF WE ARE IN A STRIKE SAN JUAN DRIVE, WHICH WAS AN OPTION IN THE LAST 2 1/2 YEARS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A FOUR INCH WIDE STRIPE. YOU HAVE TAKEN UP A FOOT OF ROAD AGAIN AND SOMETIMES THERE IS ONLY A 20 FEET PAVEMENT WITH. WHAT DOES THAT DO? MIRRORS ARE HITTING BOXES AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF. WE THOUGHT KEEPING AT A LOCAL ROAD AND KEEPING IT AT A 25 MILES PER HOUR, THE LOCAL ROAD CAN AND SHOULD REALLY COME WITH A PARKING ORDINANCE TO THE DEGREE THAT THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS. >> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I KNOW IT HAS BEEN A CONCERN BUT WHY NOT ALLOW THEM -- SO THAT [00:35:01] THEY CAN PARK THERE IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE THERE IF YOU HOURS. AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THEM DROP PEOPLE OFF AND PARKING ON SOME OTHER STREET AND PARKING OR BLOCKING IN SOMEBODY'S DRIVEWAY. >> I WOULD SAY, I CAN'T SAY THAT I AM THE ONE MAKING THE PITCHES HARD AND FAST. THERE HAS BEEN A LEARNING CURVE, AS I SAY. FOLKS HAVE HAD TO LEARN TO GET ON THE PROPERTY THAT THEY ARE SURVEYING AND YOU BRING UP A GREAT POINT. THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPANIES NOW THAT DROP OFF A CREW AND THEY START DOING THINGS. AND THE CIRCLE BACK AND THAT IS GENIUS, IN MY OPINION. THESE LONG COMPANIES, WE LIVE IN A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY WITH BEAUTIFUL PROPERTIES AND BEAUTIFULLY MANICURED YARDS AND THAT COMES WITH HOURS AT A TIME THE LONG COMPANIES ARE THERE. THEY LIKE TO HAVE TRAILERS. AND YOU KNOW, WE ARE OPEN TO CONDITIONING THINGS. BUT, WHERE DO YOU STOP? -- YOU CAN'T PARK HERE AND PEOPLE ARE PARKING AND THERE IS NO WAY TO ENFORCE. I THINK THIS JUST CLEANS IT UP A LOT. I DON'T HAVE A PERFECT ANSWER. COULD THAT BE AN OPTION? SURE. ARE THEY GOING TO WANT TO PAY FOR SOMEONE TO BE THERE ALL THE TIME AND FLAGGING SOMEBODY DOWN CONSTANTLY? I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT AND GIVE YOU A MORE EXACT SCIENCE AS FAR AS WHAT MIGHT WORK ON SAN JUAN DRIVE. BUT TO SAY WE CANNOT CONDITION SOMETHING OR ADD CHANGES, ABSOLUTELY. >> I DON'T THINK YOU WANT THE SAN JUAN DRIVE RENTALS AND -- RESIDENCE -- EIGHT DIFFERENT UNITS WITH A FORKLIFT GOING UP THE STREET SO IF A TRUCK IS PARKED THERE , IT COULD BE SERVICING THE CLUB. >> IT IS HARD FOR THE DEPUTIES TO COME THROUGH THEIR AND KNOW HOW LONG A CAR HAS BEEN PARKED THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE OTHER DUTIES TO PATROL THE ROUTE THE AREA. TO SAY THAT WE CAN LIMIT IT TO A TIMEFRAME , THAT IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF ENFORCEMENT. WE HAVE TO STOP AND WARN THEM AND THE SAME THING. IF THEY DRIVE BACK BY IT HE HAS BEEN THERE MORE THAN ONE HOUR, THEN THEY MOVED TO THE NEXT RESIDENCE. I THINK IT HAS WORKED ON THE BOULEVARD AND WE ARE JUST TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING THAT IS VERY SIMILAR. WE ARE NOT HERE TO SAY THAT THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT IS A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL. BUT, SOMETHING DOES NEED TO BE DONE AND THE OVERARCHING MAJORITY PREFER HAVING -- ON SAN JUAN DRIVE IF WE JUST CLEAN UP THE CIRCULATION. >> I THINK IF YOU JUST RESTRICT IT TO THE SAN JUAN DRIVE RESIDENCE, THEY ARE GIVEN THE BENEFIT OF THE ORDINANCE. >> IT IS AN OPTION. WE ARE OPEN TO CONDITIONS. BUT IF YOU KEEP ADDING SO MANY CONDITIONS IT IS NOT AS SIMPLE AS SOMEBODY IS PARKED THERE AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE. IT'S LIKE, HOW DOES THIS APPLY TO WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO NOW? ALL I KNOW IS WE ARE WILLING TO ADD CONDITIONS THAT SUFFICE THE MASSES BUT AT WHAT POINT DO WE GET BACK TO WHERE WE ARE NOW. IF WE TRY THE WAY THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD, WE CAN START THERE. >> IS GO BACK TO PARAGRAPH 12 D AND 11 D. I THINK THE PONTE [00:40:01] VEDRA BOULEVARD PARAGRAPH IS CLEAR AS FAR AS MATERIALS AND LANDSCAPERS COMPARED TO 11 D. SO I WILL LOOK AT REPLACING 12 D WITH 11 D. >> >> THAT IS JUST THE WAY THAT PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD WAS DONE . IT IS KIND OF TALK UNDER NORMALLY THE ZONING REGULATIONS AND THE PARKING SO THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE AND WE ARE JUST MIMICKING WHAT ALREADY EXISTS. >> DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU WILL PLEASE COME UP AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> MR. CHAIR, BEFORE WE START, I AM ELLEN AVERY IS. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE AND I AM JUST MEETING SOME OF THEM TODAY AND THEY ARE OPPOSED TO THE ORDINANCE THAT MR. WESTER TALK A LOT ABOUT SIDEWALKS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOT A PART OF THIS ORDINANCE THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE A KNIFE -- ENOUGH TIME TO ADDRESS. THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE THAT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SIDEWALK AND THAT IS NOT A PART OF THE HEARING TODAY. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE MAY CHOOSE TO TALK ABOUT THE SIDEWALK, WHICH YOU MAY OBJECT TO BUT I AM GOING TO ASK FOR MYSELF AND FOR OUR GROUP TO FOCUS IN ON THE PARKING ORDINANCE SINCE THAT IS THE ISSUE BEFORE THE BOARD TODAY. >> I AM GOING TO START THE CLOCK AT THREE MINUTES FOR EACH SPEAKER. >> ALL RIGHT . THANK YOU. JUST TO BEGIN, AGAIN, I REPRESENT MR. STEIN A MAN THAT LIVES THAT WE 63 SAN JUAN DRIVE WHO IS OPPOSED TO THE ORDINANCE. FIRST OF ALL, AS MR. WESTER SAID IT IS A MAIN ROAD LOCAL ROAD THERE ARE NO COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS. IT IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET WHERE PEOPLE HAVE KIDS THAT COME HOME FROM COLLEGE AND THEY PARK ALONG THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. THEY HAVE DINNER PARTIES AND THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO PAY 35 OR $50 PER HOUR FOR VALET SERVICE AND ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THIS ORDINANCE WITH RESPECT TO JUST INVITING PEOPLE OVER FOR DINNER. SO THEY ARE OPPOSED TO THE ORDINANCE. IF THEY WERE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE FOR SAFETY LIKE PARKING, CONSTRUCTION, OR LANDSCAPE VEHICLES AND PUTTING SIGNS THAT SAY VEHICLES CAN ONLY PARK ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IT JUST SIMPLY REQUIRING THEIR ENTIRE WAY OF LIFE TO CHANGE, AND I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE BOARD BUT SOME HAVE NOT. WE UNDERSTAND THAT MIGHT BE BETTER. IF THE MSD BOARD AND THIS BOARD , THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN PARTICULAR, SEE FIT TO DO SOME KIND OF RESTRICTION THEN WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU DELETE THE ENTIRE PROGRAM OF REQUIRING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO HAVE A ROLE IN THIS. OTHER THINGS AND THIS DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE IDEA OF KIDS COMING HOME FROM COLLEGE. GRANDKIDS WHO DRIVE AND THAT KIND OF THING. THESE PEOPLE DID NOT BUY INTO A COMMUNITY THAT HAD A PARKING RESTRICTION FOR THEIR OWN FAMILIES . WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, THAT MR. WESTER AND HIS BOARD WILL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU MOVE ALONG WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. THEY WOULD PREFER TO NOT HAVE THIS ORDINANCE AT ALL AND THEY FEEL THIS IS AN INFRINGEMENT ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT REQUIRED ON OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE [00:45:03] PONTE VEDRA COMMUNITY. THIS IS A COLLECTOR ROAD WITH COMMERCIAL USES ON IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. HOW ARE YOU? >> I AM GOOD. MY NAME IS CLAUDIA THOMAS AND I HAVE LIVED ON SAN JUAN DRIVE FOR 16 YEARS. I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS A FEW THOUGHTS ON WHAT IS BEFORE YEAR. I AM CONCERNED THIS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PROPERLY NOTICED. IT DID NOT REFLECT A HEARING DATE AND NUMEROUS INDIVIDUALS HAVE ADDRESSED TO ME THAT THEY ATTEMPTED TO CONTACT THE OFFICE AND WITH THE TWO HOLIDAYS IN THE OFFICE BEING CLOSED,THAT WAS PROBLEMATIC SO THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CERTAINLY HAVE OPINIONS THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE DUE TO CONFLICTS. PERSONALLY, I BELIEVE THIS CREATES A HARDSHIP FOR OUR FAMILY. WE DO NOT HAVE A CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY. WE DO NOT HAVE TWO ACCESS POINTS. WE HAVE A LARGE TRAILER TO BACKUP AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE MAILBOXES AND INDIVIDUALS AND THE OVERALL SAFETY INVOLVED IN MANEUVERING A VEHICLE THAT LARGE. I KNOW THAT YOU PERHAPS HAVE SIMILAR CONCERNS WITH YOUR HOUSEHOLD. I BELIEVE THAT IT TRULY TAKES AWAY A RESOURCE AND AMENITY THAT OTHERS HAVE AND I BELIEVE IT DEVALUES MY HOME IN NOT HAVING THAT PRIVILEGE OF PARKING ALONG THE STREET. I BELIEVE ALSO THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, ON ITS VERY WEBPAGE, ASSERTS THAT PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ON STREET PARKING IS A WAY TO CALM TRAFFIC. IT REQUIRES THAT PEOPLE SLOW DOWN BECAUSE THEY HAVE CARS PARKED ALONG THE ROAD AND I WILL ADD THAT WE HAVE HAD A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION ON OUR STREET THAT IS NOW DIMINISHED AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN CONVEYED. AS A RESULT I THINK THAT WOULD BE --. BUT I DO HAVE A PETITION SIGNED BY SEVERAL NEIGHBORS AND I WOULD LIKE TO READ THEIR NAMES INTO THE RECORD IF POSSIBLE. DEVON MARNELL , MICHELLE DAVIDA. BECKY QUINN. KELLY VARGA. LESLIE CARTER. JENNIFER --, NANCY AYLER, TONY AND ANGELI -- KATHY GLEASON, JACK GLEASON, CATHERINE GLEASON. PAM PAUL. TAMRA KEEGAN. LAUREN THOMAS. SANDY PARIS. BRETT PEREZ. JESSICA NASH. WHO DO I PROVIDE THIS TO? THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I DO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER ALL OF THESE ISSUES. >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. >> MY NAME IS CLAIRE AND I AM A NEW RESIDENT ON SAN JUAN DRIVE AND I MOVED IN AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER. I HAVE LOGGED OVER 1000 MILES WALKING ON ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND -- PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD AND SAN JUAN DRIVE SINCE I HAVE MOVED HERE. WHEN I WALK ALONG THE SIDEWALK OF PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD, AND HALF THE TIME I HAVE TO WALK ON THE STREET , THERE ARE MANY WORKERS THAT ARE STILL PARKING IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND RESIDENCE AND WORKERS CONFUSE WHAT IS RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, MY UNDERSTANDING, IS OVER 20 FEET INTO MY PROPERTY. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY CAN JUST PARK IN FRONT OF MY YARD BUT LEGALLY THEY CANNOT. IF YOU HAVE A PARTY AND YOU WANT PEOPLE TO PARK IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, THEY LEGALLY CANNOT. CORRECT . SO, I THINK THERE IS A MISUNDERSTANDING AS [00:50:06] TO HOW THIS WILL APPLY AND IMPACT THEIR LIFE. AS FAR AS FURNITURE DELIVERY. I HAD A MOVING TRUCK THAT SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND SUBSEQUENTLY I HAD A LOT OF FURNITURE DELIVERED AND THEY DO NOT BRING THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE. THEY BRING TWO AND THEY ARE LIFTING THE FURNITURE SO ASKING THEM TO BRING A FLAG PERSON IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SECOND OF ALL, I DO EXPERIENCE -- AND I HAVE LOGGED A LOT OF MILES, WHEN I STAND WATCHING THE SIGNED IT TRACKS HOW FAST PEOPLE ARE GOING. WHEN THERE ARE CARS ON THE STREET STOPPED FOR RESIDENCE WALKING, THE SPEED OF THE TRAFFIC DROPS DRAMATICALLY FROM 30 DOWN TO 20. WHEN THERE IS NOBODY THERE IT IS A THOROUGHFARE AND TRUST ME, I HAVE SEEN IT THAT 4 AM, 5 AM , 7 AM. AND INTO THE EVENING. IT DOES IMPACT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND THE SPEED WITH WHICH PEOPLE USE OUR STREET AS A CUT THROUGH. I LIKE HIGH OF HAVING THE PARKING BECAUSE IT SLOWS PEOPLE DOWN. GO TO THE BOULEVARD WHERE THERE ARE LINES BUT CLAUDIA MENTIONED, IF I WERE TO HAVE MY LANDSCAPE CREW HAVE TO BACK OUT, PARK AND THEN PACK OUT WITH THE TRUCK AND TRAILER, THAT WILL BE MORE DANGEROUS THAN HAVING THEM PARK ON THE STREET. >> PLEASE READ YOUR ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD? >> 339 SAN JUAN DRIVE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> I AM DUKE STEINEM. 361 SAN JUAN DRIVE AND I THINK MY NEIGHBOR ARTICULATED MUCH OF WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. MY CONCERN, WE HAD A FAMILY TRAGEDY AND WE WERE OUT OF PONTE VEDRA IN GAINESVILLE FOR NEARLY THREE WEEKS. WHEN I GOT BACK I SAW THE ORANGE SIGNS AND I AM NOT SURE THAT HAVING BEEN IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS MOST OF MY LIFE, IT IS PROPERLY NOTICED. I CALLED THE NUMBER CONCERNING THE ORDINANCE SEVERAL TIMES AND BASICALLY GOT A REVOLVING PRESS ONE FOR PLANNING AND ZONING. PLUS 2 FOR RESIDENTIAL CLEARANCE, AND WHATEVER. AND THEN I GOT THE WELCOME TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY MESSAGE AGAIN. THERE WAS NO NOTICE ON THAT AND I HAVE PICTURES OF THAT BUT THE OTHER THING THAT BOTHERS ME, AND CALL JUST A REACTION, I OWN ALONG THE OCEAN AND I CHOSE NOT TO BUILD THERE BECAUSE OF THE PARKING ORDINANCE. I CAME TO SAN JUAN DRIVE FEELING LIKE IT WAS MORE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT FELT A LOT LESS CONGESTED. I REALLY APPLAUD THE ABILITY TO HAVE PARKING AVAILABLE FOR GUESTS THAT COME OVER. IT IS NOT ALL THE TIME BUT IT IS CONVENIENT AND TO HAVE TO NOTICE TWO WEEKS OUT, TO HAVE TO HIRE AN OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICER FOR EVERY 10 CARS AND TO PROVIDE VALET SERVICE AND A VENUE TO PARK CARS SEEMS TO BE A HARDSHIP. SO, I GUESS, IN CONCLUSION, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT. I WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND OUT ABOUT IT AND I DID CALL MY NEIGHBOR AND ASK HER TO LOOK INTO IT FOR ME BECAUSE I COULD NOT FIND IT ON MY OWN. >> THANK YOU. [00:55:10] >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR BRAD. BRAD, IF I AM A RESIDENT ON SAN JUAN DRIVE AND I WANT TO HAVE A PARTY , A RESIDENT OF PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD AND I WANT TO HAVE A PARTY AND I WANT TO FIRE A VALET, WHERE THEY PARKING THE CARS? IF I LIVE ON SAN JUAN DRIVE, IF I AM IN THE 300 BLOCK OR THE 400 BLOCK OF SAN JUAN DRIVE SOUTH OF MIRANDA AND I WANT TO HAVE A PARTY AND I WANT TO INVITE PEOPLE OVER FOR A GRADUATION PARTY, WE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK? >> THEY PARKED IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AT THE DO IT WITH A STANDARD. THERE IS A TRAFFIC CONTROL , THAT HAS A SIGNAL OR A PSA. HAVING A VALET OR A SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR WITH THE LIGHTS REALLY SETS THE TONE AS FAR AS WHAT IS GOING ON TO SLOW DOWN. AS OPPOSED TO JUST PARKING WHEREVER THEY WANT AND THEN WALKING DOWN THE STREET WITH NO LIGHTS. THAT IS THE DIFFERENTIATOR AND IT IS UNDER PERMIT. THERE MIGHT BE CONDITIONS APPLIED IN THE PERMIT BUT, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT IS IT. THERE IS A STANDARD APPLIED TO IT. >> MY LAST QUESTION, HAS YOUR BOARD LOOK THAT TIME FRAMES? I KNOW IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK OUT IF YOU HAVE A PERSON IN TOWN BUT I AM THINKING ABOUT , IF I HAVE FAMILY AND I WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE OVER, MAYBE YOU CAN PARK ON OUR ROAD FROM 8 AM UNTIL 5 PM. DID YOU LOOK AT ANY TYPE OF TIME FRAMES? >> KNOW. IS BACK TO ME THIS IS REALLY ABOUT SERVICE VEHICLES THAN HAVING AN ISSUE WITH THE RESIDENCE AND CARS. COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, THE ONES THAT I SEE THEY ARE PREVALENT AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM. SOMETHING TO GET INTO A GATED COMMUNITY AND THERE ARE SERVICE GUYS LINED UP TIME. I'M WONDERING IF ANY TIME REQUIREMENTS CAN BE PUT ON? >> THIS CAN BE STRUCTURED IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. I TAKE UP SUCK EXCEPTION TO SOMEONE SAYING THAT I SAID SAN JUAN DRIVE IS LIKE PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD . I DID NOT SAY THAT. BUT THEY DO HAVE A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF PROVIDING SAFER TRAFFIC IT IS PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY AND IT IS NOT PRIVATE PARKING SPACES. I CAN TELL YOU, I REPRESENT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND I AM ALSO THE MESSENGER. >> FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AND THOSE THAT HAVE ATTENDED THE MEETINGS AND LOBBIED FOR THIS, AS STEWARDS OF THIS , THAT IS WHY I AM HERE. THIS IS NOT A PRIVATE RESIDENT INITIATIVE TO FLY IN THE FACE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE. WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AT ALMOST EVERY SINGLE MSD MEETING THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND AS FAR AS THE LEGAL NOTIFICATIONS, IT WAS DONE AND I GUESS THE COUNTY STAFF CAN TESTIFY TO THAT. THERE WAS NOT ANYTHING THAT WAS DONE THAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS HEARING. THINGS CAN BE ADJUSTED AND CONDITIONED AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE ARE HERE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY ON THIS BUT IT IS THE COMMUNITY THAT BROUGHT THIS TO OUR ATTENTION TO SUPPLEMENT HOPEFULLY A SIDEWALK AND THINGS LIKE THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> MY QUESTION IS ALONG THE SAME LINES. WHEN YOU MET WITH THE COMMUNITY DID YOU HAVE THIS AMOUNT OF OBJECTION TO THE ORDINANCE? >> I DON'T HAVE A TALLY ON THAT . THERE WERE FOLKS THAT SPOKE AGAINST IT AND HAD CONCERNS AND SOME HAD SIGNAGE QUESTIONS. HOW DOES THIS REALLY PLAY OUT? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF FOLKS THERE THAT NEED IT AND I HAVE [01:00:03] RECEIVED A TON OF EMAILS ON THE MATTER AND THEY STATE THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ALONG SAN JUAN DRIVE. USUALLY WHEN SOMETHING, FOR ON STREET PARKING IS PROVIDED, AS A TRAFFIC CALMING EFFORT, IT IS ENGINEERED THAT WAY WITH ACTUAL PARKING SPACES AND AN ENGINEERING STANDARD SO JUST PARKING THEM WHERE ANYBODY WILL PARK, THAT IS AN ISSUE. FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THE RADIUS AND NOT HAVING PEOPLE PARK WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE. WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME WITH FOLKS USING THE BEACH. THEY JUST PARK HOWEVER AND THEY JUST WANT TO QUICKLY GET TO THE BEACH BUT, IT IS THE STANDARD, THE METRIC, THE ENGINEERING BEHIND THE PRACTICE THAT IS NOT THERE ON SAN JUAN DRIVE. WE HAVE VETTED, CAN WE DOUBLE STRIKE THE ROAD? IF YOU DOUBLE STRIKE THAT AND INCREASE THE SPEED LIMIT YOU CAN'T SAY THAT NO PARKING IS ALLOWED. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS AT THE MSD MEETINGS WITH COUNTY STAFF. AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. YOU KNOW, IS THIS A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL? NO. CAN WE MODIFY THE CONDITIONS? ABSOLUTELY. DOES THIS NEED TO BE THE ONLY MEETING? NO. WE CAN COME BACK WITH NEW ITERATIONS. AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS COUNTY RIGHT-OF-WAY . FOR ROAD OF TRAVEL. IT WAS NEVER MEANT FOR PARKING. I THINK MS. THOMAS REPRESENTED IT WELL. SHE SAID SHE IS WORRIED ABOUT HER SAFETY WITH A VEHICLE THAT LARGE BUT WHAT ABOUT BICYCLISTS AND OTHERS. A VEHICLE THAT LARGE IS ALSO UNSAFE IF IT IS NOT PARKED IN THE CORRECT AREA. WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD THIS UP TO PROVIDE A SAFER FLOW OF TRAFFIC. IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A DIFFERENT STORY IF WE HAD A SIDEWALK OUT THERE. PEOPLE WALK ON THE PAVEMENT OUT THERE AND NOT ON PEOPLES YARDS. A WALK ON THE PAVEMENT AND THAT IS THE CRUX OF THE CONFLICT RIGHT NOW. IT IS FOR THE SAFETY. THERE IS NO STANDARD. ABSOLUTELY NO STANDARD AND IT IS PARK WHEREVER YOU WANT. WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD STANDARDS INTO IT SO IT IS MORE APPROACHABLE FOR A BETTER FLOW OF TRAFFIC. >> NEXT QUESTION. THE DRAFT LANGUAGE SAYS ONE TRAFFIC CONTROL DEPUTY. SHALL BE REQUIRED FOR 10 OR FEWER VEHICLES. IF WE ELIMINATED THAT YOU WOULD ELIMINATE ABOUT HALF OF THE COMMENTS. FOR A A PARTY OR GATHERING OF LESS THAN 10 VEHICLES IT WOULD NOT REQUIRE ANYBODY . IF YOU HAD MORE THAN 10 VEHICLES YOU PROBABLY DO NEED TRAFFIC CONTROL AND MAYBE YOU PUT IT FROM 6 PM UNTIL 10 PM YOU NEED A TRAFFIC CONTROL OFFICER. I THINK, ACCORDING TO THIS, IF YOU HAVE A PARTY WITH ONE PERSON, YOU NEED A TRAFFIC CONTROL OFFICER. YOU MIGHT WANT TO RECONSIDER THAT. >> AND OF PEOPLE WANT TO PARK WHEREVER, WE ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO HEAR THEM OUT AT THE MSD BOARD. THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL . I AM HERE AS A VOLUNTEER AND BEING THE MESSENGER OF SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION MEETING AFTER MEETING. THANK GOD THERE HAS BEEN -- AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING AND THEY HAVE BEEN AT WORK. LONG COMPANIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WE ARE WILLING TO MODIFY THIS ORDINANCE TO FIT THE SPECIFICITIES OF NOT JUST FOUR OR FIVE RESIDENTS BUT OTHERS THAT COME TO US WITH ITERATIONS. >> THE STATEMENT THAT IT WAS NOT PROPERLY NOTICED. I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU PUT SIGNAGE UP FOR TWO OR THREE MILES OF ROAD. >> THERE WERE ABOUT EIGHT SIGNS AND COAL MULTIPLE LOCATIONS ALONG SAN JUAN DRIVE. I STARTED AT SOLANA BOULEVARD AND WORKED [01:05:05] MY WAY UP. THE SIGNS THEMSELVES DON'T LEND THEMSELVES TO THAT MUCH SPACE TO HAVE ALL OF THE ADVERTISING CRITERIA IN TERMS OF WHERE THE MEETING WOULD BE AND WHAT TIME WERE THE MEETINGS. SO WE HAVE THE NUMBERS SO THAT THEY CAN REACH OUT TO STAFF AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. ADDITIONALLY, THERE WAS AN AD RUN IN THE ST. AUGUSTINE RECORD AND WE SUGGESTED TO THE APPLICANT THAT WE RUN THAT AD SINCE THIS IS PRIMARILY IN PONTE VEDRA SO THOSE THINGS WERE DONE. THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE WOULD HAVE BEEN, AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER LETTER. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN QUITE THE UNDERTAKING. THIS ITEM ITSELF, IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A FORMAL APPLICATION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR SYSTEM. THAT IS NOT TO SAY -- THAT IS WHAT WE DID FOR THIS ITEM AT LEAST. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, WE DID TALK ABOUT ADVERTISING BECAUSE IT IS AN ORDINANCE SO WE DECIDED WE WOULD POST SIGNAGE WITH A NUMBER TWO CONTACT. I THINK IT HAS BEEN PROPERLY NOTICED. WHILE I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION , THROUGH THE CHAIR, THE CHARTER FOR THIS BOARD REQUIRES THAT ANY ACTION BE BY CONCURRING VOTE AND EXCEPT FOR A MOTION TO CONTINUE OR ADJOURN SO IT DOES REQUIRE A UNANIMOUS VOTE . >> DID WE GIVE, DID WE GIVE ANY OF THE PEOPLE SEATED, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THIS? >> MY NAME IS DOCTOR JESSICA NASH. IF IT IS ACCEPTABLE I JUST HAVE SOME SCREENSHOTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON THE OVERHEAD. IS THAT OKAY ? I WANTED TO SHOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS BEEPING. >> I'M HAVING AN OPERATOR ERROR ISSUE. I APOLOGIZE. >> SO, THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE SIGNS THAT WERE POSTED. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WERE POSTED BUT THEY ALL LOOK SIMILAR TO THAT. I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS IS THAT WHEN A PUBLIC HEARING WHEN THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING LIKE, THIS IS A NOTICE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND THERE ARE TWO MORE LINES THAT WERE NOT UTILIZED IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE BEEN TOLD WHERE AND WHEN THE MEETINGS WOULD BE. AND THEN, THIS IS THE INTERSECTION OF -- AND SOLANA BOULEVARD. THIS WAS TAKEN THE FRIDAY EVENING AFTER JULY 4TH. SO, JUST LAST WEEKEND IN THE EARLY EVENING. LEMASTER HAD A BUNCH OF CARS AND IF YOU CONTINUE TO DRIVE YOU CAN SEE SEVERAL HOMES WERE HAVING PARTIES. CONVERSELY, AS THE CAR TURNS AROUND THIS IS NOW ON SAN JUAN DRIVE. THIS IS A HEADING NORTH ON SAND ONE -- SAN JUAN DRIVE. ARE WAS A CAR THERE AND THE ONLY TRUCK, I THINK IS A COUNTY SERVICE VEHICLE. I GUESS, THE PROBLEM MIGHT NOT BE AS BIG AS ONE WOULD LEAVE. -- BELIEVE . THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> I APOLOGIZE TO THE GROUP [01:10:06] THAT WE ARE A LITTLE DISORGANIZED BUT WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH MR. WESTER ON COMING UP WITH ALTERNATIVE LANGUAGE IF YOU ARE OPEN TO THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> WE ARE IN NO RUSH TO -- WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THE ONES THAT ARE FOR ITS ARE NOT HERE . THEY TYPICALLY COME TO THE MEETINGS AND THEY SEND EMAILS IN A AND WITHOUT GETTING TO A WAR PROVIDING RECORDS OF ALL OF THAT. WE ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS ON THIS BUT WITH DIFFERENT ITERATIONS TO FIT SAN JUAN. THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO HAVE SOME CONTROL OUT THERE. WE ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH ALL OF THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE WE DO BELIEVE THIS IS NOT A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL. >> I CAN REMEMBER MOST OF THE PONTE VEDRA PARKING SITUATION AND A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE HAVING WAS THE LANDSCAPE PEOPLE AND CONSTRUCTION BUT PRIMARILY THE LANDSCAPE . IS THAT THE CASE HERE WHERE THAT IS REALLY WHAT YOU ARE SEEKING TO LIMIT? OR IS RESIDENTIAL PARKING A BIG PART OF IT? >> I DON'T HAVE A PERCENTAGE SO I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY. SO I WOULD SAY MAYBE 70% IN SERVICE VEHICLES. I WOULD SAY PROBABLY ANOTHER 25% OF THAT IS PARK FOR THE BEACHES AND ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD BUT WHAT THEY DON'T REALIZE IS, THERE IS KNOWS STANDARD APPLIED TO THE PARKING. YOU JUST PULL UP AND PARK AND THAT IS INHERENTLY DANGEROUS WHEN YOU HAVE NO WAY TO GET THROUGH TRAFFIC CORRECTLY. SO, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE STRUCTURE THAT THAT I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY OF IT IS RELATED TO THE SERVICE CONTRACTORS OUT THERE AND THE TRADES AND MAINLY ON SOME OF THE BLIND CORNERS. THIS IT DOES NOT HAVE THESE NEED AND THE TRAFFIC NUMBERS BUT IT STILL DOES STILL HAVE OTHER ISSUES. AND HAS A LOT OF TIGHT CURVES AND AN IRREGULAR PAVEMENT WITH AND YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF FOLKS WALKING ON PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD. BECAUSE SAN JUAN DRIVE IS USED AS PAYMENT FOR THE AUSTRIANS AND CYCLISTS, THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO STANDARD FOR THE PARKING RIGHT NOW MAKES IT AN ISSUE AND THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. HOWEVER WE CAN STRUCTURE THAT AND APPLY IT TO SAN JUAN DRIVE, I THINK THAT IS THE BEST IDEA. MOST OF THE TIME IF YOU WANT TO HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY OVER YOU ARE AT LEAST PAYING ATTENTION TO WHERE THEY ARE PARKING. AT LEAST, THE HOST SHOULD BE. IF YOU JUST WANT TO COME HOME AND HAVE YOUR LAWN DAD AND YOUR POOL CLEANED, I GET IT. I LIVE ON SAN JUAN DRIVE AND I PROMISE YOU , MY LAWN COMPANY AND POOL CLEANER PARKED ON THE DRIVEWAY. BUT, IT IS CLOSE TO A CURVE AND IT WAS AWKWARD FOR THEM TO GET IN AND OUT BUT I WANTED THEM TO BE ABLE TO PARK ON MY PROPERTY AND NOT IMPEDE THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC. IT IS INHERENTLY A SAFETY THING. THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE USING THE ROADWAY AND THERE ARE MORE FULL-TIME RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE USING IT AS A CUT THROUGH. FOLKS ARE GOING TO WANT TO USE SAN JUAN DRIVE AS A CUT THROUGH WHEN THE WORK STARTS ON THE CLUB . A GOOD PORTION OF THE FOLKS THAT PARK THERE, I CAN'T BLAME ANYONE RESIDENT FOR HAVING A PARTY. USUALLY WHEN THERE IS A PARTY IT IS A VERY DISCERNIBLE CHARACTER AND THEME. YOU KIND OF KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. IT IS EVERYBODY ELSE. IT IS THE FOLKS THAT PARK RIGHT ON THE TIGHT CURVE AND YOU CAN'T TELL WHAT IS COMING. THEN YOU HAVE A BIKER OR A CYCLIST COMING RIGHT AT YOU AS WELL. THAT LACK OF STANDARD PRESENTS AN ISSUE. IF FOLKS PARKED ON SAN JUAN DRIVE , A LOT OF FOLKS, IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AND I [01:15:05] WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THE GENESIS OF THIS CONVERSATION AND WHY WE ARE HERE. I AGREE. THAT IS A DIFFERENT BALL OF WAX ALTOGETHER. SO, THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC AND WE ARE WILLING , AS THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, WE ARE WILLING TO FINE-TUNE THIS BUT WE NEED INPUT. WE NEED INPUT FROM THE OPPOSITION AND THE FOLKS THAT WANT THIS ARE OKAY WITH IT MIMICKING WHAT IS HAPPENING ON PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD BECAUSE IT IS WORKING BUT IF OTHERS WANT TO FINE-TUNE THIS, WE ARE WILLING. AGAIN, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE A VOTE TODAY. >> GO AHEAD. DO WE HAVE AN AGENDA SET FOR THE AUGUST FIFTH MEETING? >> CURRENTLY THERE IS A PONTE VEDRA ZONING MEETING. THIS ITEM IS SCHEDULED TO GO TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON AUGUST 6 SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH TIME TO PROVIDE PREPARE THE STAFF REPORTING GET THAT UPLOADED TO THE BOARD BUT, WE DON'T HAVE TO STICK TO THIS. WE JUST NEED TO RE-ADVERTISE. >> I THINK RE ADVERTISING FOR 5 AUGUST AND HAVING BREAD AND THE FOLKS TALK WITH THOSE THAT LIVE ON SAN JUAN AND THEN HAVING A FRESH ORDINANCE WITH SOME CHANGES. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL AUGUST 5 AND HAVE A REVISED DOCUMENT PRESENTED TO THE BOARD AT THAT TIME AND HOPEFULLY THERE ARE MORE THAN FOUR PEOPLE AT THE MEETING THAT IT GETS US OUT OF THE UNANIMOUS VOTE . >> WOULD AUGUST 5 GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME TO MEET WITH PEOPLE AND TALK ABOUT THE CONCERNS? >> YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T GET DOES. ONLY BECAUSE, THAT NOW SITS BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. WE HAVE ONE ON THE NINTH AND THEN WE HAVE THE MSD MEETING THE FOLLOWING WEEK SO I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS BACK TO THE MSD TONIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THAT BACK WITH ITERATIONS FROM FOLKS ON THE BOULEVARD THAT CAN GET US THE NEW VERSIONS THAT THEY WANT AND PRESENT THAT TO THE BOARD. LET'S GET IT RIGHT . >> NO PROBLEM. I WILL REVISE MY MOTION. IT DOES LOOK LIKE SEPTEMBER 2, THAT IS LABOR DAY SO I IMAGINE THE MEETING WILL INSTILL BE ON THE NINTH? >> CORRECT. >> SO I WILL REVISE MY MOTION. >> HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOTION. I THINK WE HAVE HEARD SOME INTERESTING THINGS. AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEING WILLING TO WORK WITH EVERYONE HERE. I SAW A HAND UP FROM THE BACK . IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY? >> IT WAS JUST NOTED THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ON SUMMER VACATION SO SEPTEMBER 9 WOULD BE GREAT. >> ELLEN AND I WORKED GREAT TOGETHER SO WE WILL WORK THIS OUT. >> I DO OWE HIM AN APOLOGY BECAUSE THIS CAME UP SO FAST. IT WAS THE FOURTH OF JULY WEEKEND AND I DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO GIVE YOU A COURTESY CALL. >> LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT. I WAS WONDERING WHY YOU DIDN'T CALL ME. WE WANT TO TAILOR THIS THE CORRECT WAY AND GET 99% OF PEOPLE ON BOARD. >> FROM THE ONSET OF THE MEETING TODAY IT WAS MADE APPARENT THAT THERE WOULD BE NO PERSONAL ATTACK AND I FEEL LIKE I CHARACTER WAS CALLED INTO QUESTIONON TWO INSTANCES WHERE THERE WAS AN ISSUE RAISED BY A MR. WESTER AS TO HOW I OBTAIN THE SIGNATURES AND HE MADE AN [01:20:10] ASSERTION ABOUT ME ONLY BEING CONCERNED ABOUT MY SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF MY FAMILY WHICH IS NOT CORRECT. I CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND I HAVE SERVED IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES. I FIND THAT TRULY INAPPROPRIATE THAT THOSE REMARKS WERE MADE AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT REMARK. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, I THINK THE STAFF HAS COMMENTS REGARDING TIMING. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. >> WE WILL TAKE A QUESTION FROM BRANDON. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, THIS IS REGARDING THE NEXT MEETING. I SUPPORT THE SEPTEMBER MEETING JUST BECAUSE WE WOULD NEED TO ADVERTISE TODAY FOR THE AUGUST MEETING SO THAT WOULD NOT WORK. HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT SOME HAVE NOT BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND PERHAPS WE SHOULD MOVE ON WITH JOSH EVEN THOUGH IT IS A BIG UNDERTAKING AND AT LEAST LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WHEN THOSE HEARINGS ARE AND WHAT THE DATES WOULD BE. THESE SIGNS ARE THE SIGNS. IF YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT I APOLOGIZE BUT THAT IS HOW THE COUNTY HAS ADVERTISED FOR HEARING ITEMS AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE AT YOUR DISCRETION BUT THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. >> A PO IS NOT REQUIRED HERE BUT WE WOULD BE DOING IT AS A COURTESY. MY QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU BE REQUIRED TO SEND A FULL A PO OR JUST THE PEOPLE ON THE DRIVE? >> IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT WE DO THAT AT THAT LEVEL SO I THINK THAT THE SIGNAGE , PERHAPS MORE DETAIL ON THE SIGNAGE AND THE NEWSPAPER PUBLICATIONS WOULD BE SUFFICIENT. >> WE ALSO ADVERTISE IT ON THE MSD WEBSITE AND WE CAN DO IT VIA EMAIL. >> WE AS THE COUNTY HAVE A BLAST SYSTEM FOR OTHER STUFF. >> I THINK YOU ARE REFERRING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BILL OF RIGHTS. BECAUSE OF THE APPLICATION TYPE IT IS KIND OF HARD TO QUANTIFY WHAT AND WHO WOULD BE ON THE LIST BUT I THINK WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND STAFF, TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND SEND OUT ANOTHER EMAIL BLAST. >> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE TWO THINGS. ON THE SIGNAGE, IF YOU SIMPLY PUT THE WEBSITE, THAT IS WHERE I WENT AND GOT THE ADDRESS, THE DATE , AND THE TIME. BUT I HAVE A QUESTION. HAVE THERE BEEN ANY ACCIDENTS OR FATALITIES ON SAN JUAN DRIVE THAT HAS EVERYBODY UP IN ARMS? I LITERALLY HAVE RUN DOWN THE STREET HUNDREDS OF TIMES AND THEY DO IT ALL TIMES OF DAY. NOBODY HAS MENTIONED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN STATE FATALITIES. DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT? >> I DO NOT. BRANDON? >> I DO NOT KNOW THAT NUMBER. >> I'M NOT SAYING, LET'S WAIT UNTIL IT HAPPENS. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE FLIPPANT BUT, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE SOMEBODY IS MAKING THIS A HUGE ISSUE WHEN IT IS PEOPLE BEING COURTEOUS AND IF WE WERE IN NEW YORK I WOULD BE MORE CONCERNED BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THEY DRIVE BUT AT LEAST THEY HAVE RULES OF THE ROAD AND I THINK PEOPLE ON SAN JUAN, THEY ARE COURTEOUS. SOMETIMES IT IS ANNOYING BUT I HAVE NEVER HAD ANYBODY HONK OR ZOOM OFF AFTERWARDS AND I HAVE LOGGED A LOT OF MILES IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. THANK YOU. >> I WILL SAY I HAVE NOT LOGGED AS MANY MILES AS YOU HAVE BUT I DO BIKE AND RUN DOWN THE DRIVE FAIRLY FREQUENTLY EARLY IN THE MORNING SO THERE ARE PLENTY OF PLENTY OF CARS AT THOSE HOURS BUT I THINK SOME OF WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR IS WITH THE PARKING ORDINANCE ON THE BOULEVARD BEING SUCCESSFUL, IT IS GOING TO PUSH BEACH PARKING ONTO THE DRIVE. SO, IT SOUNDS [01:25:05] LIKE THE MSD IS TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE AND SO, I WANT EVERYONE TO NOTICE WHAT THAT IS. SO THE MSD SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO GIVE EVERYBODY WHAT THEY WANT BUT , PLEASE KEEP IN MIND I LIVE AT THE OTHER END OF PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD, AND AS IT HAS GROWN SO HAS TRAFFIC AND SO HAS PARKING. BUT THERE ARE AREAS WHERE THEY CAN BE ABSORBED. ON THE OTHER END OF THE BOULEVARD THERE IS NOT THAT ABSORPTION SO, I SUSPECT WHILE IT IS NOT QUITE A PROBLEM YET, AS WE SEE PEOPLE LEARN THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO PARK ON THE DRIVE FREELY THAT I WILL EXPECT MORE BEACH PARKING SO I THINK SOME OF WHAT I AM HEARING IS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET IN FRONT OF THAT IN A WAY THAT IS MEANINGFUL FOR THE REST OF US. I WANT EVERYONE TO CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE OF CAN WE MAKE IT BETTER. YES, WE HAVE THE FIRST PROBLEMS BUT, CAN THIS BE A BETTER SITUATION? IS THERE A WAY TO IMPROVE THIS? AND I THINK THAT IS WHERE THE MSD IS COMING FROM. I AM GLAD YOU WERE HERE AND WE HEAR YOUR VOICES AND WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO COME IN AND SPEAK. I THINK, WITH THAT, WE CAN MAKE A MOTION. >> I WILL REVISE MY MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE SAN JUAN DRIVE PARKING ORDINANCE TO THE SEPTEMBER 9 MEETING DATE . IN THE MEANTIME, THE MSD AND THE RESIDENCE AND THIS BOARD WILL WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH LANGUAGE THAT IS APPLICABLE TO ALL OF THOSE BEING AFFECTED. >> SECOND. [Board Report] >> HEARING A MOTION AND A SECOND, LET US ABOUT. -- VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES, 4-0. THIS HAS BEEN CONTINUED TO SEPTEMBER . I HAVE A STAFF REQUEST TO SPEAK. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? >> ARE THERE ANY NEW APPLICANTS? >> TO MY KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY NEW APPLICANTS BUT, JOANNE HAS NOT GIVEN ME AN UPDATE BUT I DO BELIEVE SHE TRIES TO DO THAT MONTHLY OR IN MULTIPLE MONTH INCREMENTS SO I WILL DOUBLE CHECK WITH HER BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AT THIS POINT I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ADDITIONAL PEOPLE APPLYING FOR THE POSITION. >> DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM STAFF? >> NO. I HOPE EVERYBODY HAD A GREAT FOURTH OF JULY. AS WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, ON A PERSONAL NOTE, I WILL BE MOVING TO TAMPA AND I WILL BE RELINQUISHING MY TITLE TO KEISHA AND SHE WILL BE INSTRUMENTAL TO YOU AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOU COLLABORATING * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.