Jun 20, 2024 Planning and Zoning Agency

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>>> GOOD AFTERNOON, GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER, IF YOU WOULD NOT MIND STANDING UP, YOU'RE GOING TO SAY THE PLEDGE.

OKAY WILL YOU READ THE PUBLIC NOTICE STATEMENT?

>> THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN CONCURRENCE WITH REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW, PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN OPPORTUITY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TO AGENCY JURISDICTION AND GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER COMMENT DURING DESIGNATED TIME DURING THE MEETING PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIME DURING THE MEETING EACH ITEM FOR A LENGTH OF TIME WHICH SHALL BE THREE MINUTES. SPEAKERS SHUT IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, THEY REPRESENT AND STATE THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIMOY DO NOT THE TESTIMONY NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED BY THE AGENCY DETERMINED TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY. A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE CONSIDERED AT THE HEARING SUCH PERSON WILL NEED A RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AND NEEDS TO ENSURE VERBATIM RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS IS MADE WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED, ANY PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENT OR EVIDENCE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING SUCH AS CHARTS PHOTOGRAPHS WRITTEN STATEMENTS SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE CLERK FOR INCLUSION INTO THE RECORD THE RECORD WILL THEN BE AVAILABLE FOR THE BOARD AGENCY COMMITTEE OR COUNTY VIEW OF APPEAL RELATED TO THAT AGENCY MEMBERS ARE RELATED EACH

[PZA Meeting Minutes for Agency Approval: 06/06/24 ]

IF SUCH HAS OCCURRED AGENCY MEMBERS IDENTIFY PERSONS INVOLVED AND MATERIAL CONTENT OF COMMUNICATION. WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE AND DIRECTIONAL COMMENTS TO THE ISSUES TO AVOID PERSONAL

ATTACKS. >> THANK YOU, AND THE PACKET WE HAVE MEETING MINUTES FROM JUNE 6 FROM JUNE 6, 2024 IS THERE EMOTION? ANY EXCEPTIONS? LET'S TAKE A VOTE -- VOICE VOTE ON

[1. Evaluation and Appraisal Report (EAR) and Comprehensive Plan Update. The County's Comprehensive Plan is in the process of being updated. The Board of County Commissioners directed that a consultant be hired to assist the county through process. The consultant, Inspire Placemaking Collective, will provide an update on the overall process. ]

>> THANK YOU MDM. CHAIR, DIR. OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT, I WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS, WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS BIG COMP PLAN UPDATE PROCESS AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE HAD QUITE A BIT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, I THINK WE HAD SIX COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH LISTENING SESSIONS WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND THERE'S BEEN LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK, I BELIEVE WE WENT OVER 1000 SURVEYS THAT CAME IN FOR RESPONSE THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE NOW, MAYBE HIGHER. AS WE GO THROUGH THIS WILL BE A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITY, MANY MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT AND GIVE FEEDBACK EVENTUALLY WE WILL GET TO THE POINT OF THE CUTOFF AND THE DATA WILL BE THERE AND THAT'S WHEN THE COMMISSION ANNUAL GIVE FEEDBACK BUT AT THIS POINT HE WILL GO OVER THE TIMELINE OF THINGS LIKE THAT AND I WANTED TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE PZA AND FLEXIBILITY IN ALLOWING THAT SPECIAL MEETING. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WILL BE AROUND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, MDM. CHAIR.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON MME. CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD MY NAME IS, INSPIRE PLACE MAKING COLLECTIVE AND MY ADDRESS IS 602 602 SOUTH

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JUST TO BEGIN AND I'M SURE THAT THE AGENCY AND MEMBERS OF THE COMPANY HAS A PLAN, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS REALLY A DOCUMENT THAT IS DESIGNED AT A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL TO GUIDE FUTURE DECISION-MAKING FOR THE COUNTY WHEN IT COMES TO PHYSICAL GROWTH AND WHAT GROWTH LOOKS LIKE IN THE COUNTY AND IT PRESENTS A VISION FOR WHAT THE GROWTH SHOULD LOOK LIKE. IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA WITH THE STATUTE AND THERE IS A PRETTY SCRUTINIZED PROCESS , A STATUTORY PROCESS THAT HAS TO BE FOLLOWED IN ORDER TO ENACT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHAT HAS TO BE IN IT AND EVERYTHING THAT FOLLOWS FROM IT. SO, ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS A COME BRANDS A PLAN. YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS NINE ELEMENTS TO IT. FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS SET UP IN THIS PHOTO SAYS , SO YOU'LL SEE THE NINE PLAN ELEMENTS THAT THE CURRENT COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS IN 84 I GETTING INTO THIS PROCESS THE COUNTY COMMISSION INDICATED THEY WOULD WANT SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OVER THE COUNTY VISION IS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SO WE ARE GOING TO BE PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IT IS IN THE STATE STATUTE SO SOME JURISDICTIONS TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SOME DO NOT. OR THEY TALK ABOUT THEM SEPARATE FROM THE OTHERS. IT SHOULD BE MENTIONED ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS A PORTION OF HIS COMPANY AND SUPPLANT THAT ALREADY SPEAKS TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT . SO, WHY ARE WE UPDATING? CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? SORRY. SO WHY ARE WE UPDATING? WELL, BECAUSE WE ARE REQUIRE TO UPDATE, ACQUIRED TO DO THAT AT CERTAIN PERIODS OF TIME, IT EMPOWERS THE JURISDICTION PLAN RATHER THAN TO REACT TO DO DEVELOPMENT . IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO REEVALUATE THE VISION AND HOW WE ARE DOING THINGS. OKAY

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THIS IS THE ELECTRONIC VERSION OF THAT. SO TO THIS POINT CURRENTLY, WE HAVE COLLECTED ABOUT 357 OF THOSE PROJECT IDEAS OR IDEAS THAT ARE REFLECTED ON THE IDEA WALL. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE GOT A SURVEY , THAT'S ANOTHER TAB NEXT TO THE IDEA WALL. SO THAT ALLOWS FOLKS TO TAKE UP A SURVEY THAT'S A LITTLE MORE PRESCRIBED IN TERMS OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED. AND I THINK AS MIKE DISCUSSED, WE HAVE HAD IN EXCESS OF 1000 OF THOSE SURVEYS TURNED IN ELECTRONICALLY ALREADY. ABOUT 1200 OF THOSE. WE HAVE ALSO DONE LISTENING SESSIONS AND LISTENING SESSIONS ARE SESSIONS WE HAVE HAD IN THE COUNTY FACILITIES. I HAVE ATTENDED A DAYLONG GROUPING OF THOSE , THEY ARE USUALLY ORGANIZED AROUND A PARTICULAR TOPIC AREA AND YOU HAVE FOLKS THAT COME IN THAT EXPRESS INTEREST IN THAT TOPIC AREA AND, WE ENGAGE WITH THOSE FOLKS ON THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC AREA. DOES NOT MEAN WE CANNOT TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS, BUT WE TALK ABOUT PARTICULAR TOPICS. SO WE HAVE HAD A SERIES OF THOSE AND WE'VE ALSO HAD THESE TECHNICAL FOCUS GROUPS WHICH ARE FOCUS GROUPS THAT ARE REALLY WITH FOLKS THAT HAVE A PARTICULAR INTEREST OR EXPERTISE IN A PARTICULAR AREA. I WAS INVOLVED IN THE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOCUS GROUP AND WE HAD MYSELF, A COUPLE OF US FROM THE INSPIRE TEAM, SOMEBODY FROM THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WE HAD COUNTY STAFF AND WE ALSO HAD SOMEBODY FROM THE , THAT IS A REALTOR . ALL OF THOSE FOCUS GROUPS, THOSE TECHNICAL FOCUS GROUPS WERE ALL RECORDED AND THOSE RECORDED FOCUS GROUPS ARE ON THE WEBSITE SO IF YOU'RE INTERESED IN ANY OF THOSE TOPIC AREAS YOU CAN REVIEW THOSE. WE HAVE HAD A

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TRANSPORTATION, UTILITIES, PARKS, LAND-USE . WHAT WE DO WITH ALL OF THOSE, BY THE WAY, ALL OF THESE, WHAT WE CALL COLLATERAL , WE HAVE ALL OF THAT COLLATERAL . WE TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS OF EVERYTHING. WE HAVE BEEN PHYSICALLY AND THEN WE TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS AND SCAN THEM ALL SO WE HAVE AN ARCHIVE.

SO NOW I'M JUST GOING TO MENTION WHAT ARE SORT OF THE STRESSED AREAS THAT SEEM TO BE COMING FROM ALL THE ENGAGEMENT AND BASICALLY THERE ARE 10 VISION INITIATIVES OR STATEMENTS THAT WE HAVE. THEY ARE CONSERVATIVE PROTECT NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND WILDLIFE HABITAT. HEAVY EMPHASIS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TRYING TO REALLY PURSUE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS. DEVELOP A MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. MOBILITY ISSUES, GENERALLY.

PROTECT AGRICULTURAL LAND BY DIRECTING GROWTH TO AREAS ALREADY SERVED BY INFRASTRUCTURE. PROTECT AND GROW COUNTY BORDER SUPPLY SYSTEM. PRESERVE RURAL AREAS AND CHARACTER, MAINTAIN AND IMPROVE ROAD RAISE, EXPAND AND ENHANCE PARKS AND RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE SYSTEM, RECOGNIZE PROTECT AND ENHANCE RESOURCES. AND PUBLIC COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEMS. THOSE ARE THE 10 VISIONS FOR THE MAIN IDEAS THAT SEEMS LIKE IS BEING DISTILLED FROM THE COMMENTS.

NOW, JUST MENTIONED A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT THESE. THE ONE OF INTEREST TO ME FOR INSTANCE ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THESE BLEED INTO THE DIFFERENT TOPIC AREAS. SO, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS AN ISSUE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE FOR SHELTER OR PROCESS, BUT IT HAS ALSO COME OUT IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

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SO, SOME OF THESE THINGS BLEED OVER. I KNOW PRESERVE RURAL AREAS AND CHARACTER AND PROTECTING AGRICULTURAL LAND , OF COURSE THERE IS OVERLAP IN BOTH OF THOSE. I KNOW WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS IN THE HASTINGS AREA THAT ARE INTERESTED IN REDEVELOPMENT, THE OF A REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND THEY ARE INTERESTED IN REDEVELOPING A CORE AREA RATHER THAN SEEING THAT SPELL OUT MORE BROADLY TO THE RURAL AREAS. SO AGAIN, OVERLAP BETWEEN HOW WE WANT TO DEVELOP AND MAINTAIN CHARACTER. ALL OF THESE VISION INITIATIVES ARE COMPARABLE TO THINGS THAT WE SEE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH, WHERE THERE IS THIS REAL DRIVE TO DEAL WITH ISSUES OF GROWTH WHILE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE COUNTY OR THE JURISDICTION'S CHARACTER. SO IT IS A BALANCE. AND THEN, FROM THERE YOU KNOW, INSPIRE HAS WORKED A LITTLE BIT ON DRAFTING A VISION STATEMENT. WHICH AGAIN, WE ARE IN THE EARLY THROES OF THIS. ALL OF THIS HAS SOME AREAS AND OPPORTUNITY TO BE WORKED THROUGH A LITTLE BIT, BUT THIS IDEA OF NARROWING UP THE NOTION OF THE FIRST COAST WHICH , THIS IDEA OF THE EMBODIMENT OF FLORIDA AT FIRST SIGHT BECAUSE OF THE BALANCE TO BE DRIVEN BETWEEN THESE DIFFERENT VALUES OR BUSINESS STATEMENTS THAT ARE COMING. WHETHER IT BE ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOUSING ET CETERA MOVING FORWARD , WE ARE GOING TO START MOVING. SO WE TALKED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT SORT OF THE FIRST TWO PHASES. I SHOULD SAY WE ARE CONCURRENTLY DOING A LOT OF DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS BECAUSE THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WE JUST SAW REPRESENTS THE QUALITATIVE PART OF THE ANALYSIS, BUT WE ALSO DO A QUANTITATIVE PIECE LOOKING AT POPULATION PROJECTIONS, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT DATA THAT WE GATHER FROM DIFFERENT AGENCIES.

WE HAVE TO DO DATA ANALYSIS SECTIONS FOR EACH OF THOSE ELEMENTS. TO SORT OF SET THE BASELINE SO THAT'S GOING ON CONCURRENTLY WITH THIS. IN THIS LAST SLIDE, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE STARTING TO MOVE HERE IN THE SUMMER AND INTO THE FALL INTO HOW DO WE GET THERE? SO, ONCE WE GET A HANDLE ON THE DATA, ONCE WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE PUBLIC AND ONCE WE GET OUR ARMS AROUND THOSE THINGS, HOW DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD? THIS WILL ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THE ACCUMULATION OF ALL THE SITE ENGAGEMENT WE HAVE HAD WITH VISION INFORMATION. WE WILL BE HAVING SEVERAL OPEN HOUSES IN JULY, A FEW MORE TECHNICAL FOCUS GROUPS AND A FEW MORE WORKSHOPS INTO SEPTEMBER INTO THE EARLY FALL. I THINK OUR PROJECT SCHEDULE INDICATES WHERE TRYING TO WRAP UP A FINAL DELIVERABLE AND GET SOMETHING BACK TO YOU AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY AND BACK TO THE BOARD, SOMETIME AT THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW YEAR.

WITH THAT I WANT TO CLOSE. I WANT TO MENTION ONE OTHER THING. BECAUSE IT'S IN THE WRITE UP FOR THE AGENDA ITEM.

THAT IS WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH THE STAFF ON WHAT'S CALLED EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REPORTS REQUIREMENT THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO BY STATE STATUTE. THAT IS PLANNED TO COME BEFORE YOU ON JULY 18 . THE 11TH, I'M SORRY. I STAND CORRECTED. WE HAD BEEN WORKING ON THAT, BUT, WE NEEDED TO DO A

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FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE

PRESENTATION. >> YOU DID A GOOD JOB PRESENTING THAT AND YOU DID ANSWER A COUPLE OF MY MOST IMPORTANT QUESTIONS WITH YOUR SLIDES SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

TRY TO REITERATE OR ASK HERE NOW, WHEN WE REVIEWED THIS PRIOR TO JULY 11, ARE WE GOING TO GET A REDLINE OF THE CONFERENCE A PLAN AND SEE WHERE THE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE? HOW IS THE INFORMATION GOING TO COME TO US PRIOR TO THAT MEETING, THAT'S PART ONE OF THE QUESTION AND SECONDLY, I KNOW THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO VOTE ON IT, THAT DAY SO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CAN THEN VOTE ON IT AND THAT IS TO FACILITATE AND EXPEDITE THE REVIEW BY THE STATE. IS THAT CORRECT? AND THEN I NOTICED YOU STILL HAVE WORKSHOPS FOR THE PZA IN SEPTEMBER SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THOSE WILL MESH WITH

YOU, JUST ELABORATE PLEASE. >> AGAIN, SURE, REDLINE WILL HAVE THOSE, THERE ARE SOME RED LINES THE PROCESSING. MOSTLY STATE STATUTE , MAKING SURE WE MEET IT WITH A 2035 PLANNING HORIZON AND IMMEDIATELY COMING AROUND THE BEND WOULD BE THE BIG COMP PLAN. YOUR OTHER QUESTION ON , I THINK HE CAN TALK TO WHAT'S COMING IN SEPTEMBER, BUT MAKING SURE YOU WILL GET CONSISTENT UPDATES WITH WHAT'S GOING ON. WHAT WAS

YOUR OTHER QUESTION? >> WELL I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ANSWERED IT OR NOT. DEFINITELY THE REDLINE. THE SEPTEMBER

WORKSHOP HOW THAT MESH? >> I THINK THAT CAN ALL OCCUR BECAUSE THE IDEA IS WE ARE GOING TO THE PROCESS , GETTING THROUGH AND THEN GETTING A STATUTE SET WHEN WE GET SOMETHING TO THE STATE THERE IS EXPEDITED SO THAT GIVES US SOME EXTRA TIME TO DO A MORE IN-DEPTH LARGE-SCALE REVIEW .

>> OKAY, YOU AND MIKE HAVE BOTH MENTIONED 2050 AND I SAW THAT IN THE VISION STATEMENT BY 2050 OTHER COUNTIES ARE USING ST.

JOHNS AS A MODEL AND YOU HAD SOME GOOD POINTS IN THERE. I THOUGHT THIS WAS 2035 CONFERENCE A PLAN REVISION? IS

IT 2035 OR 2050? >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS 2050, HOWEVER BY THE STATE STATUTES WE HAVE TO GET IN WE HAVE TO DO A 10 YEAR HORIZON, SO WE'RE DOING THAT IN THE SHORT TERM TO GET INTO THE EXPEDITED REVIEW AND THEN WE WILL DO THE LONGER TERM. WE HAVE ALREADY DONE A LOT OF THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS SO THE DATA ANALYSIS IS BASED ON THE 2050.

>> OKAY I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION IT IS A 2035 COMP PLAN REVISION NOT 2050 SO I THE EXTRA 15 YEARS? WHAT'S THE

RUSH? >> YEAH, I THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IT IS JUST A LONGER-TERM WAY TO REALLY PLAN THINGS OUT OR BROADEN THE HORIZONS BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT ARE GROWTH OR IMPROVEMENT DRIVEN THAT'S NOT REALLY FUNDED, IT WILL TAKE A LONG TIME TO GET THINGS FUNDED BASICALLY SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A BROADER , KEEPING THOSE THINGS IN MIND.

>> HAS THE COUNTY EVER DONE A 20 YEAR JUMP IN THE COMP LINE BEFORE SINCE ACQUIRED IN THE EARLY 90S?

>> , WELL, THE COMPANY HAS A PLAN, THE LAST MAJOR UPDATE WE DID WAS AROUND THE 2000 TIMEFRAME AND YOU KNOW WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT A LOT OF THAT STARTED IN THE LATE 80S.

SO I THINK NOT REALLY, REITERATING WE ARE LOOKING, THE

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>> OKAY, APPRECIATE THAT , THANK YOU. THAT'S IT FOR NOW, I DO APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT AND UPDATING US. I HAVE A COUPLE OF VISION QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THIS WILL LOOK. THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS WERE AWESOME, THEY WERE WONDERFUL. I HEARD IT'S GOING TO BE TERRIBLE OR NEGATIVE AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE WAY IT WAS ORGANIZED AND PEOPLE WERE EXCITED AND ENGAGED AND HAPPY. IT WAS GOOD SO I'M WONDERING WHAT IS AN OPEN HOUSE, CAN YOU GIVE A TWO SENTENCE , BUT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE FOR THE OPEN HOUSES YOU'RE

GOING TO HAVE? >> MANAGER, OPEN HOUSE IS BASICALLY WHERE THERE IS NO PARTICULAR TIME YOU HAVE TO COME TO THE VENUE. WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN SOME OF THESE IS LIKE A PRELIMINARY , GET FOLKS UP TO SPEED AT ANY OF THE PRESENTATIONS, BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN FOLKS CAN'T COME IN AT ANY TIME DURING THE SET TIME FOR THE EVENT. MOST OF THEM WE ARE HAVING ARE AROUND 6:00 LEAD UNTIL 8:00 P.M. SO THEY TRY TO NOT INTERFERE WITH FOLKS CAN GET THERE AFTER WORK. FOR FOLKS WRAPPING UP AROUND 5:00. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE AT A CERTAIN TIME, THEY CAN COME ENGAGE WITH THE PROCESS ANY TIME.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE, THAT'S GOOD. I LIKE THE IDEA, IT IS MORE INPUT SEEKING AND BRINGING PEOPLE UP TO SPEED, THAT'S GOOD I APPRECIATE THAT. THE NEW WEBSITE ACTIVITY WILL BE GOOD TO SEE. FOR THE LISTENING SESSIONS AND TECHNICAL FOCUS GROUPS, WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE A TIME WHERE WE MAY HAVE TAKEAWAYS FROM THOSE? THEY ARE FASCINATING AND IT'S GOOD YOU HAVE GOT THEM , AT LEAST THE FOCUS GROUPS AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE TO BE ABLE TO LISTEN. IS THE GENERAL IDEA ABOUT WHEN YOU MAY HAVE TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT INPUT?

>> YOU MEAN THE ONES WE HAVE ALREADY CONDUCTED? I MEAN, MDM.

CHAIR, I'M SURE THE BOARD DOES NOT WANT TO HEAR IT, BUT HAVE A LOT OF TAKEAWAYS FROM JUST THE ONE I WAS IN WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I THINK WE WILL PROBABLY PUBLISH SOME OF THOSE AT SOME POINT. JUST FOR THE BOARD'S INFORMATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE TAKEAWAYS I HAVE HEARD ARE , AND THEY KIND OF MESH WITH THE BOARD DOES NOT KNOW THE COUNTY IS HAVING A SEPARATE MATTER A STRATEGIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE COUNTY. SO WE'RE TRYING TO LAND THESE THINGS IN THE SAME PLACE BASICALLY. IT SEEMS TO BE, WE TALK ABOUT ATTAINABLE HOUSING ISSUES, THERE IS A NEED FOR A LITTLE MORE DESIGNATED , WHERE DO WE WANT COMMERCIAL AND POTENTIAL INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN? THERE HAS BEEN TALK IN AND AROUND THE AIRPORT, FOR INSTANCE. THERE IS TALK ABOUT ARE WE DOING ENOUGH IN ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND INNOVATION ECONOMY, CAN WE TRY TO BUILD SOME OF THAT INTO OUR ECONOMIC BASE ? SO, SOME OF THOSE ISSUES HAVE BEEN CRYSTALLIZING, BUT MORE FORMALLY PROBABLY HAVING A READOUT OF THOSE MEETINGS OR A WRITTEN SUMMARY WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ENTERING THAT.

>> YOU MENTION ATTAINABLE HOUSING A COUPLE TIMES , THAT IS A CHAMBER CONCEPT SO IS THERE A DEFINITION FOR THAT? WE HAD PROBLEMS ON WORKFORCE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THERE ARE DIFFERENT TERMS BEING UTILIZED AND LEVELS AND PERCENTAGES OF APARTMENTS AVAILABLE WITHIN A LARGER COMPLEX ET CETERA TO QUALIFY AS WORKFORCE HOUSING. SO WHAT IS ATTAINABLE HOUSING? IS THERE SOME OPERATING WORKING

DEFINITION OF IT? >> I THINK ATTAINABLE HOUSING IS , THE WAY THAT I THINK ABOUT ATTAINABLE HOUSING, FIRST OF

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MANY OF THE FOLKS THERE , THEY GO DOWNTOWN BASICALLY IN ST.

AUGUSTINE TO GET EMPLOYMENT , BUT THEY ARE REALLY STRUGGLING TO HAVE HOUSING AVAILABLE TO EVEN WEST ON KING STREET, BUT EVEN FOR THE REST WHEN YOU GET OUT OF THE CITY FURTHER OUT INTO THE COUNTY. SO THEY ARE STRUGGLING AND I THINK THAT'S WHY IT IS AN ISSUE FOR THE CHAMBER BECAUSE IT LEADS INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS LIKE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, TRAVEL ISSUES, ALL THESE THINGS

IMPACT. >> FOOD DESERTS.

>> ALL OF THESE IMPACT THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE TO EARN A

LIVING. >> APPRECIATE THAT, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION. I WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE JULY 11 MEETING AND CLARIFY A COUPLE THINGS. JULY 11 MEETING INFO WILL BE A VOTE TO UPDATE TO PROVE WHERE YOU ARE. IN THE PROCESS. CORRECT? AND THAT GOES OUT TO THE STATE SO WHEN WHAT A FINAL VOTE COME BEFORE US, TOWARD THE END OF

THIS YEAR OR EARLY NEXT YEAR? >> I BELIEVE THE TIMELINE IS AT THE END OF THIS YEAR OR BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR.

>> WHEN IS IT TO? >> I BELIEVE WITHIN A YEAR OF

THE UPDATE. >> AND, AGAIN FOR CLARITY, WOULD YOU TITLE THIS COMP PLAN 2050?

>> I WOULD. >> ARE YOU SURE? WE TALK ABOUT 2050 AND LAST TIME WAS 2020 AND LAST TIME WAS 2024 2000,

TALKING ABOUT A 25 YEAR PLAN? >> GOOD QUESTION AND ONE REASON WE WILL HAVE THESE IS SEPARATE AGENDAS TO BIFURCATE. THE REALITY , 2050 IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, THAT'S WHAT IT IS THAT'S THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF THIS BIG, UPDATE . WHY WE DID THIS IN THIS ORDER WAS SO WE WERE NOT HAMSTRUNG BY DEADLINES OF GETTING A YEAR TO THE STATE SO THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY ART OF THE YEAR FOR THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN UPDATE.

THAT IS STATE STATUTE AND IF THE COUNTY OR JURISDICTION DECIDES TO MAKE CHANGES YOU CAN AT THAT POINT, WE DECIDED TO SUBMIT THE STATE STATUTE SO WE DON'T HAVE CHANGES AT THIS TIME WE ARE SUBMITTING. WE WILL DO OUR OWN UPDATE BECAUSE JURISDICTIONS CAN DO UPDATES AT ANY TIME THEY WANT THAT IS A PROMPT FOR THE JURISDICTION TO SAY LOOK AT THE UPDATE. SO, THAT'S THE PROMPT. YOU PROMPTED US, WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS AND WE WILL TELL YOU BASED ON THE TIMELINE BECAUSE WE DO EVERY SEVEN YEARS HERE IS THE STATE STATUTE UPDATES, FOR THE MOST PART NOTHING SUBSTANDARD AND THEN WE COME BEHIND WITH A FULL-FLEDGED UPDATE SO WE DON'T HAVE SO MANY LIMITATIONS AND WE HAVE BROUGHT CONTEXT OF DISCUSSION AND HOWEVER LONG IT NEEDS TO GO. DOES THAT PROVIDE CLARIFICATION? OKAY. THAT'S THE BEST I CAN DO.

>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE NEED TO DO

PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? >> IT IS A PRESENTATION WITH NO VOTES. PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT REQUIRED.

>> OKAY I WILL ASK ANYWAY. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER ONE? OKAY YES SIR.

SPARKMAN OF GERMANY MS. GREG BURKE I LIVE AT AUGUSTINE, 32092. I AM AN ARCHITECT AND I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE ST. JOHNS AFFORDABLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE

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WE CAN BUILD TOWNHOUSES NOW BUT THEY ARE IN SEPARATE DEVELOPMENTS. THE MISSING MIDDLE IS DUPLEXES, QUADS, EIGHT UNIT BUILDINGS, ROW HOUSES. LIVE AND WORK UNITS, THINGS THAT DON'T EXIST AND CANNOT EXIST THE WAY ZONING READS RIGHT NOW. IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVE ATTAINABLE HOUSING USUALLY THE UNITS ARE LITTLE BIT SMALLER EXCEPT FOR THE ROWHOUSE AND THE LIVE WORK. THE TRIPLEX AND THE QUADS WOULD BE VITAL TO PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE THEY ARE GENERALLY A LITTLE BIT SMALLER. THEY CAN BE BUILT AT WHATEVER QUALITY LEVEL NEEDS TO BE, BUT IT IS A WAY TO OFFER A ALTERNATIVE TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME OR APARTMENT TO SOMEONE WHO IS YOUNG AND WANTING TO START OUT OR TO SOMEONE WHO WAS A LITTLE BIT OLDER AND WANTS TO DOWNSIZE. I MADE A PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS LAST MONTH ON THIS TOPIC. I RECENTLY BEEN INTERVIEWED BY ALL THREE TV STATIONS IN JACKSONVILLE, TO DISCUSS MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING. IT IS VERY VITAL. MEMBERS OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE , THEY ARE VERY MUCH AWARE OF WHAT I PRESENTED AS THEY TRY TO KEEP THIS GOING.

THE CONFERENCE A PLAN WILL NEED TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT. WE WILL HAVE TO SOMEHOW PROVIDE A MEANS TO MODIFY ZONING. I WILL BRIEFLY STATE , I AM A MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTS FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA. WE WILL WORK WITH THE LEGISLATURE OR THE BUILDING COMMISSION TO TRY TO GET A TRIPLEX AND QUAD INTO THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING CODE. WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? THOSE ARE CONSIDERED MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SPRINKLER AND GO THROUGH THE MESS. IF WE CAN TAKE IT OUT OF THE COMMERCIAL CODE AND PUT IT IN THE RESIDENTIAL CODE THAT WOULD BE

[2. TUP 2023-02 Beaver Temporary Parking for Office Employees. Request for a Temporary Use Permit to allow for a property zoned Commercial General (CG) to be used as an off-site parking area for employee parking in association with the Beaver Toyota Dealership for an additional two year period due to the expiration of TUP 2021-01, specifically located on Parcel 8-7B, St. Johns Medical Park. ]

BE GLAD TO ANSWER. >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, APPRECIATE IT. MOVING ON ITEM NUMBER TWO PLEASE.

DOES ANY AGENCY MEMBER HAVE ANY?

>> YES I DID A SITE VISIT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

I WORK FOR BEAVER TOYOTA I AM HERE TO REQUEST EXTENSION ON OUR SPECIAL USE PARKING PERMIT AT THE CURRENT SITE. I THINK THERE IS, UP ON THE BOARD THAT SHOWS THE AREA WE ARE CURRENTLY USING FOR EMPLOYEE AND SPECIAL USE PARKING RIGHT NOW. I THINK MOST PEOPLE HERE IN ST. AUGUSTINE KNOW THAT WE ARE BUILDING A NEW FACILITY. 207 I HAVE A 95 WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO RELOCATE SO THIS PARKING LOT WILL CEASE TO BE USED AFTER THAT MOVE. TALKING WITH OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY THEY WISH TO PUT THIS PARTICULAR LOT BACK ON THE MARKET AFTER WE VACATE THAT

CERTAIN LOT. >> THIS PRESENTATION SHOWS THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE SITE THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT. HAPPY

TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

) >> THIS TEMPORARY USE IS SIX YEARS OLD. WE GRANTED THE FIRST ONE IN 2018. YOU GAPPED TWICE AND USED IT FOR A YEAR WHEN YOU WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO. SO, DO YOU REALLY NEED TWO YEARS OR YOU GOING TO MOVE OUT IN SIX MONTHS? SO THIS COULD BE REDUCED TO ONE YEAR?

>> YES THE BOARD WISHES TO DECIDE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTION? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER TWO ? OKAY. BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

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>> I WILL MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE TP, 2302 TEMPORARY PARKING FOR OFFICE EMPLOYEES BASED ON FINDINGS OF FACT

[3. CPA(SS) 2024-01 Johnson Home @ 8460 CR 13 S. Request for a Small-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment to change the Future Land Use Map designation of approximately 5.34 acres of land from Agriculture-Intensive(A-I) to Residential-A (RES-A) with a text amendment limiting the property to a maximum of one single family home. ]

>> OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION. A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

OKAY THAT MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER

THREE, ANY X PARTAKE? >> YES, I DID A SITE VISIT.

>> ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. >> THERE ARE SEVERAL EMAILS.

>> HELLO MY NAME IS KAYLYN JOHNSON I AM HERE FOR CBA SMALL-SCALE ON THE JOHNSON HOME AT 8460 COUNTY RD. 13 SOUTH. WE ARE REQUESTING SMALL-SCALE FOR ZONING CHANGING , TENDING FROM AGRICULTURAL INTENSIVE RESIDENTIAL -A TEXT AMENDMENT LIMITING PROPERTY TO A MAXIMUM OF ONE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.

THIS WAS MY NARRATIVE SPECIFYING THAT THE LAND WILL BE USED FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. MAXIMUM SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN IN THE FAMILY 70 PLUS YEARS. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. HERE IT STATES WE WILL BE USING A SEPTIC TANK AND A PRIVATE WELL . ROUGHLY ON 1 ACRE OF THE 5.3 YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT STATES IT HAS BEEN PART OF THE FAMILY 70 YEARS. FUTURE LAND USE AGRICULTURAL AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY, TO FORWARD IT TO RESIDENTIAL.

THIS IS GOING TO BE THE AREA MAP OF THE PROPERTY IN THE PURPLE OUTLINE. THIS IS A LOCATION MAP FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE . ELEVATION MAP . THIS IS OUR TEXT AMENDMENT AGAIN PROPERTY 8460 COUNTY RD. 13 SOUTH LIMITED TO THE MAXIMUM OF ONE SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING. THESE ARE LETTERS OF SUPPORT PROVIDED FROM SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS . THIS ONE IS FROM E-470 COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH AND THIS ONE IS FROM 8515 8515 COUNTY RD. 13 SOUTH. THIS ONE IS FROM THE 413 SOUTH AND THIS ONE IS FROM , WHO WE ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO MOVE ON AND MOVE FORWARD. WE ARE BUYING PROPERTY FROM HER, THIS IS HER PROPERTY, GREAT GRANDMA AND IT HAS BEEN IN THE FAMILY FOR A VERY LONG TIME. THIS IS HER LETTER TO ME AND MY HUSBAND TO BUILD OUR FAMILY HOME 8315 . THIS IS CONTINUING OF HERS THAT I HAVE PROVIDED. SO, THESE WERE ALSO LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM HER, SHE PROVIDED US WITH EXHIBITS OF , RIGHT HERE IT WILL TELL YOU IN THE DEED. GREAT GRANDMA PROVIDED HER HUSBAND THE DEED PROPOSING WHAT HER FUTURE WAS THE PROPERTY. SO IT WILL EXPLAIN WHERE GREAT GRANDMA HAD EXPLAINED ABOUT THE KEEP THE PROPERTY IN THE FAMILY AS LONG AS SHE POSSIBLY COULD.

AND THAT WAS EXHIBIT 2. THIS WAS THE FIRST OF EXHIBIT 2. AND THEN THE THIRD ON EXHIBIT 2. HERE I PUT TOGETHER , OF

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HOPEFULLY FUTURE HOME, NEXT TO US , TO THE LEFT OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE OUR AUNT JESSE, BEHIND THE PROPERTY , YOU CAN KIND OF SEE DIRECTLY BEHIND MY MOTHER AND FATHER-IN-LAW. TO THE LEFT OF THEM IS GOING TO BE OUR GRANDMA SALLY JOHNSON. SHE OWNS 8350 AND 8400 AND 8400 COUNTY RD. 13 SOUTH. TO THE RIGHT IS WOULD BE OUR COUSIN OWNING IT E-470 COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH. THE BEST OF MY WISHES WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT OUR FAMILY HOME SINGLE DWELLING HOME ON 8460 8460 COUNTY RD. 8460 COUNTY RD.

>> HI. I DID DRIVE OUT THERE AND IT IS LOVELY. I THINK A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME WOULD FIT IN NICELY. EVEN THOUGH I KNOW WITH THE INTENT IT PROHIBITS THAT UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING A LOT LARGER I LOVE THE IDEA THAT YOU ARE ALTOGETHER AND KEEPING THE LAND IN THE FAMILY AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.

>> I DO APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, I DID NOT DOUBT THAT THERE WERE, BUT I GET APPLICATIONS AND MATERIALS ELECTRONICALLY AND IN MIND THEY DID NOT COME THROUGH.

I SAW A FEW WORDS ON A COUPLE PAGES BUT MOST OF THOSE WERE BLANK SO I'M GLAD YOU DID SHOW THOSE. AND A MESSAGE TO STAFF .

IN THE APPLICATION, IT SHOWED WHEN THE FORMER INITIALLY KEPT HER DRIVER'S LICENSE , I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE IN ANY APPLICATION. SOMEBODY'S DRIVER'S LICENSE, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A LITTLE INTRUSIVE SO WITH HER DRIVER'S LICENSE AND OTHER PARTICULARS. BUT I AM FINE WITH THE ITEM, THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER THREE? OKAY MOVED TO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

>> I WILL RECOMMEND EMOTION APPROVAL OF THE ADOPTION OF

[4. REZ 2023-28 105 Venetian Blvd.. Request to rezone approximately .75 acres of land from Industrial Warehousing (IW) to Commercial Intensive (CI) with conditions, specifically located at 105 Venetian Blvd. ]

IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND SECOND. LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

OKAY, THAT MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> ITEM NUMBER 4 ANY EX PARTE?

>> YES I DID A SITE VISIT AND I HAVE BEEN IN THIS BUILDING.

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> HELLO. MY NAME IS I ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT VOTE ] -- PRESENT THIS , I FELT THE PROPERTY ORIGINALLY IN 2004 , PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND I CONTINUED HOWEVER, DUE TO THE CHANGING NATURE OF OUR COMMUNITY I HAVE NOW HAD A LOT OF INQUIRIES SPECIFICALLY MEDICAL AND OF COURSE THE EXISTING ZONING IS NOT CONDUCIVE FOR THAT. HENCE THE REASON FOR ME BEING HERE TODAY TO SEEK REZONING.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO VENETIAN BOULEVARD OFF OF U.S. ONE. APPROXIMATELY 3/4 ACRES, THE BUILDING ITSELF IS 7500 FT.÷ WITH FIVE, 1500 WITH FIVE, 1500 FT.÷ SPACES AND 19 PARKING SPACES.

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HIGHWAY ONE. AND ON THE ORIGINAL LAYOUT FOR LANDSCAPING AND PARKING SHOWING THE 19 PARKING SPOTS. AGAIN, I HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY MOST RECENTLY COUNTY COUPLE FLOATED WANTED TO OPEN A CHIROPRACTIC THE WITH THE CURRENT ZONING IT DID NOT ALLOW. THE LOCATION IN THEIR OPINION AND MINE WOULD BE PERFECT. 1500 FT.÷ WOULD BE JUST WHAT THEY NEED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I WILL TRY TO ENTER THEM.

>> I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU A GOOD PRESENTATION AND I SUPPORT . I HAVE BEEN THERE MANY TIMES. THE QUESTION FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SINCE THEY ARE WAVING THE LIVE LOCAL ACT I'M WONDERING IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP IN THE FUTURE BASED ON THE PROVISIONS OF THE LIVE LOCAL ACT IS IMPOSSIBLE THE LEGISLATURE CAN OVERTURN THE COUNTY ACCEPTING THAT PROVISION? LET'S SAY FORGET, SORRY ST. JOHNS COUNTY THE LIVE LOCAL ACT DEVELOPMENT IF THEY SO WISH, WHAT'S THE GUARANTEE THE LIVE LOCAL ACT WILL NOT BE APPLIED IN THE FUTURE GIVEN

POTENTIAL LEGISLATIVE ACTION? >> THE COUNTY MAKES BEST EFFORTS WITH THE GUIDANCE BUT THERE IS NO GUARANTEE, THE LEGISLATURE CAN CHANGE THAT AND THE WAIVERS COULD GO AWAY AND CONDITIONS COULD GO AWAY SO THERE IS NO GUARANTEE IT JUST TRYING TO GIVE CONTINUE TO MOVE THE SAME MOVING FORWARD.

>> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WITH NONE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 4? OKAY GREAT BACK TO THE AGENCY

FOR A MOTION. >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING 2023-28 105 105 VENETIAN BLVD. IS OWNED WITH CONDITION OF WAITING RIGHT TO DEVELOP PROPERTY PURSUANT TO

[5. PUD 2023-09 Rivers Self Storage PUD. Request to rezone approximately 5.99 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Planned Unit Development (PUD) to allow for a maximum 100,000 square foot Self Storage facility, specifically located at 1065 State Road 16. ]

THE STAFF REPORT. >> IS THERE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES, THANK

YOU SO MUCH. >> YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER

FIVE, ANY EX PARTE? >> YES MANAGER I DID A PRETTY

GOOD SITE VISIT . THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

>> 236 SAN MARCO AVE. 236 SAN MARCO AVE., SAINT AUGUSTINE.

REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. THIS IS THE RIVER SELF STORAGE PUD REZONING APPLICATION. THE FOUR LIVERS PROPERTY GROUP TODAY A PRINCIPAL AND MYSELF , WE ARE THE PROJECT PLAN AND FIRST I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME MAPS TO SHOW YOU WHERE IT'S LOCATED AND THEN I WILL ASK TO COME UP AND TELL YOU ABOUT HIS COMPANY AND THE OPERATIONS AND THEN WE WILL PRESENT THE SITE PLAN PROJECT AND THEN WE WILL TALK ABOUT ACCESS. THIS IS A LOCATION MAP . IT IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF STATE ROAD 60 WEST OF KENTON MORRISON ROAD NORTHEAST OF 4 MILE ROAD APPROXIMATELY 6 ACRES IN THE PARCEL SURROUNDED BY

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HERE WE HAVE THE EXISTING ZONING MAP AND IT DEMONSTRATES WHAT A INFILL PARCEL IS, 6 ACRES ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME WHICH IS STILL HERE TODAY. BUILT IN 1967. HERE IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE IF THIS APPLICATION IS APPROVED. IT WILL FILL IN THE HOLE, THE GAP IN THE ZONING MAP. NOW WHAT TO ASK HUNTER TO COME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIS COMPANY.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. FOUR RIVERS PROPERTY GROUP.

MENTIONED WE ARE SELF STORAGE DEVELOPMENT FOR AND WE OPERATE THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHEAST. WE DO GROUND UP CLASS A STORAGE. BY CLASS A WE MEAN FULLY ENCLOSED WITH NO DRIVER DOORS WITH CINDERBLOCK AND HARDWIRED FENCING, THE NEW BUILDS WE DESIGNED TO LOOK LIKE OFFICE BUILDINGS OR RETAIL TYPE BUILDINGS AND AS SEEN HERE WE HAVE DEVELOPED 20 CLASS A FACILITIES ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST. HERE ARE SOME OF THE FISCAL BENEFITS ASSOCIATED WITH OUR PROJECT. AS YOU WILL NOTE IN 24 UNDER CONSTRUCTION GETTING APPROVAL AND THEN THE FOLLOWING YEARS YOU CAN SEE THE VALUE OF THE BUILT PROJECT .

ASSOCIATED WITH IT AND THE SALES TAXES. A PROFESSIONAL TAX CONSULTANT AND THEN THIS IS HOW WE SENSUALLY EVALUATE OPPORTUNITY. THE TYPICAL EQUILIBRIUM IN THE MARKET IS 8 TO 10 FT.÷ PER PERSON IN A 3 MILE RADIUS. SO WE LOOK AT THE SQUARE FEET OF EXISTING STORAGE DIVIDED BY THE POPULATION, TYPICALLY ON THE HIGHER END OF THE NUMBER AND A FAST-GROWING MARKET. WE HAVE DONE THE ANALYSIS HERE AND WHAT WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO WOULD BE THE CLIMATE CONTROLLED STORAGE AS I MENTIONED OF THE DRIVE-UP NON-CLIMATE GARAGE DOOR TYPE OF PRODUCT. WHEN WE DID OUR ANALYSIS EXISTING IN THE MARKET IT WAS 4.3 IT WAS 4.3 FT.÷ PER PERSON WITH THE FACILITY 7.6 AND THEN AS WE PROJECT OUT SEVERAL YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AS IT LOOKS AT THE TIME TO LEASE WE WOULD BE BELOW SEVEN WHICH IS BELOW THE EQUILIBRIUM EVEN IN A STANDAR MARKET NOT FAST GROWTH. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT TYPICALLY WE LIKE TO ANALYZE WHAT ACTUAL COMPETITION IS IN THIS MARKET. THERE IS SOME CLIMATE CONTROLLED IN THE MARKET, IT IS FAIRLY DATED SO I WOULD NOT EVEN CALL IT CLASS A CLIMATE CONTROLLED COMPETITOR WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE EXAMPLES . WE DO BELIEVE WE ARE BRINGING A NEW PRODUCT TO THIS SUB MARKET. THANK YOU.

>> NOW PRESENTING TO YOU OUR PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. CERTIFIED PLANNER , MADRAS IS

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MAXIMUM HEIGHT SINGLE-STORY AND THE MAXIMUM IS 70% AND WE ARE BELOW AT 38%, THE MAXIMUM ISR IS 75% WE ARE AT 59%. WE ARE HAVING TO REQUEST A FEW WAIVERS DUE TO THE TREES AND LOCATION OF THE BUILDING HAVING TO PUSH THE BUILDING FURTHER TO THE WEST SOUTHWEST. SO A COUPLE OF THE WAIVERS, THEY ARE KIND OF LINKED. ONE OF THE WAIVERS IS SPECIAL USE CRITERIA FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY. HAVE WHAT WE CONSIDER ANTIQUATED REQUIREMENT TO HAVE THE FACILITY 500 FEET FROM A RESIDENTIAL ZONE PROPERTY. PERSONALLY I THINK THAT'S WITH THE ROLLUP DOORS BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS ARE NORMAL BUILDINGS NOW, NOT NOISY ROLLUP. SO WE ARE 100 FEET FROM MR. THOMPSON'S HOUSE AND 300 FEET FROM THE SOUTHEAST. THE SECOND WAIVER WE ARE REQUESTING IS FOR SETBACKS. LET ME GET MY NOTES. THIS SPECIFIC CODE SECTION REQUIRES COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS BE 20 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL USE. NOT RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, RESIDENTIAL USE AND BECAUSE THE MISSION TRACE PUD SURROUNDS OUR PROPERTY THAT INCLUDES PUBLIX. THAT INCLUDES PUBLIX. THE HOA PARCEL , THAT IS THE OPEN SPACE PARCEL COME OF THE TRIANGLE.

THIS IS THE POND. SO THESE ARE CONSIDERED RESIDENTIAL USES EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ON THEM.

SO TECHNICALLY PER THIS CODE WE NEED 20 FEET FROM THOSE PRETTY LINES. WE HAVE 10 HERE AND YOU CAN SEE WE ARE HERE ON THE CORNER AND 10 ALONG THIS, PLENTY OF SPACE THIS WAY BUT IT'S JUST THIS WE HAD TO PUSH THIS BUILDING SUPER FAR THAT WAY. SO THAT'S ONE, AND THE LAST WAIVER IS FOR THE BUFFER.

WE NEED 20 FEET AND WE HAVE 10 SO WE ARE RIGHT HERE. WE HAVE ALL THE SPACE IN THE WORLD AND WE HAVE THIS OPEN SPACE PARCEL 'S WE ARE COMPLETELY 20 FEET FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, IT'S JUST TECHNICALLY THIS IS RESIDENTIAL USE EVEN THOUGH IT'S POND AND OPEN SPACE. SO WE ARE ASKING FOR WAIVERS BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO SAVE THE TREES SO WE HAD TO PUSH THE BUILDING. IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO COME UP WITH THE SITE PLAN AND WE'RE KEEPING IT SINGLE-STORY SO IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH IN A RUT AND AREA, WE ARE JUST INTO A OPEN

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>> SO, THE PROJECT OVERVIEW AS MENTIONED IN FIELD PARCEL AND MIXED USE, THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY DEVELOPMENT AND FUTURE STATE ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY. A NEEDED AND NECESSARY SERVICE IN THE AREA AS HUNTER MISTREATED WITH HIS DEMAND SLIDE. THERE ARE NO OUTSIDE TRUCK RENTALS OR RV BOAT STORAGE. UNLIKE THE OLDER TYPE FACILITIES THAT WERE OPEN 24 SEVEN MECH, PEOPLE COME WITH GATE ACCESS, THEY HAVE LIMITED WEEKDAY AND WEEKEND HOURS, OFFICE HOURS 9:00 UNTIL 5:00 P.M. AND THE GATE IS 7:00 UNTIL 8:00 P.M. IT IS EXTREMELY LOW INTENSITY YEARS WITH ALL CUSTOMER ACTIVITY OCCURRING INSIDE THE FACILITY AND A LOW TRIP GENERATION WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE BUILD. TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC ACCESS.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON AGENCY MEMBERS.

I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER LICENSED IN FLORIDA WITH TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SPECIALTY ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT TO TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC AND GOING BACK A COUPLE SLIDES, THIS SITE PLAN IS A GOOD IMAGE. I WANT TO TAKE A QUICK MINUTE TO TALK ABOUT ACCESS. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH D.O.T., STATE ROAD 16 BEING A D.O.T. ROAD AND ULTIMATELY WE WILL BE OBTAINING A DRIVEWAY ACCESS PERMIT FROM D.O.T. SO IN ANTICIPATION WE HAVE MET WITH THE DEPARTMENT AND STARTED WORKING THROUGH GETTING FEEDBACK ON GETTING OUR DRIVEWAY IN THE CORRECT LOCATION. YOU WILL SEE AND ANTICIPATE THERE MAY BE A QUESTION AS TO WHY WE HAVE A WINDING DRIVEWAY INTO THE PROJECT AND WANTED TO GIVE SOME HISTORY AND BACKGROUND. THAT IS SPECIFICALLY AT THE REQUEST OF THE D.O.T. STAFF HAVE ASKED US TO CREATE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF SPACE OR DISTANCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY TO THE EXXON AND PUBLIX AS OUR DRIVEWAY, THE PUBLIX HAS A RIGHT TURN LANE HERE THAT IS FAIRLY LONG. SO WE WILL SLIGHTLY IMPACT THE VERY BEGINNING EDGE OF THAT TURN LANE AND THE D.O.T. WANTED US TO GET OUR DRIVEWAY AS FAR WEST AS WE POSSIBLY COULD SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE DONE. THAT'S WHAT WE REFLECT ON THE MAP. THE OTHER THING TO MENTION IS AGAIN THIS IS PERSONAL PROPERTY MINIATURE STORAGE FACILITY. WE ARE NOT EXPECTING AND DO NOT ANTICIPATE AND WILL NOT HAVE ANY SEMI TRUCKS. PHYSICALLY THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET ON THE SITE, CANNOT PHYSICALLY NAVIGATE THE DRIVEWAY AND THERE IS NO TURNAROUND SPACE FOR THE ON SITE SO THEY WILL NOT BE ALLOWED ON SITE AND WOULD BE PROHIBITED. AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A LOW TRIP GENERATOR FOR THE SITE. AS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT WE ANTICIPATE , BASED ON THE SIZE OF THIS FACILITY, UP TO 15 PEAK HOUR TRIPS IN THE P.M. WHICH WORKS OUT TO A LITTLE BIT UNDER THREE TRIPS PER ACRE WHICH, FOR THE TYPE OF USE THAT COULD BE IN MIXED-USE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS EXTREMELY LOW. WE GAVE A COUPLE EXAMPLES AND I SAFELY USED ROUGHLY 8000 FT.÷ PER ACRE FOR WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER USES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ALLOWED THROUGH REZONING AND MIXED-USE WITH OFFICE AND THE RETAIL SHOPPING PLAZA. YOU CAN SEE THOSE PEAK HOUR TRIPS WHICH IS WHAT THE COUNTY LOOKS AT WHEN THEY EVALUATE CAPACITY AND ROADWAY AVAILABILITY , WOULD BE MULTIPLES OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE SITE. I KNOW I HIT ON THE TRUCKS QUICKLY, ITE THE INSTITUTE OF

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STANDARDS AND DESIGN STANDARDS. WANTED TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. NOW TURNING IT BACK OVER, THANK YOU.

>> TO KIND OF RECAP JUSTIFICATION . WE HAVE NO WETLAND IMPACTS AND WE ARE PRESERVING EIGHT GORGEOUS TREES, OFFERING EXISTING ESTABLISHED MISSION TRACE FROM STATE ROAD 16 WHICH IS A FOUR LANE DIVIDED COLLECTOR MAJOR ARTERIAL WHICH IS EVEN HIGHER LEVEL OF ROADWAY. VERY LOW TRIP GENERATING. SIGNIFICANT SALES TAX GENERATED FROM PARCEL GENERATING NOW ONE SINGLE 1967 BUILT HOME. THERE IS A STRONG NEED FOR SELF STORAGE IN THE 3 MILE RADIUS ESPECIALLY CLASS-A SELF STORAGE. LOW IMPACT TO INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES, SCHOOLS FOR EXAMPLE NONE, LOW UTILITY, LOW IMPACT TO THE ROAD NETWORK, EMERGENCY AND PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE, CLOSE PROXIMITY TO MANY PERSONAL STORAGE , YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF UNITS SURROUNDING IT ON THE LOCATION MAP. HIGH INTENSITY MIXED-USE CORRIDOR AND LIMITED OPERATING HOURS. AND THEN REDUCED ADVERSE IMPACT TO THE RESIDENCE, WELL BUFFERED FROM NOISE AND LIGHT AND STATE ROAD 16 WHICH IS WHAT MIXED-USE PLANNING ANTICIPATES DOING, STEPPING DOWN FROM HIGHER INTENSITY ON MAJOR THOROUGHFARES STEPPING BACK IN THE INTENSITY AND DENSITY.

TRUCK SIZE LIMITATION AND COMPARABLE SINGLE-STORY HEIGHT COMPARABLE TO THE COMMUNITY. LIMITED HOURS OF OPERATION.

PRODUCED IMPACT TO THE ENVIRONMENT. NOT IMPACTING WETLANDS, PRODUCED IMPACT TO INFRASTRUCTURE, LOW-IMPACT SCHOOLS, ROADS , UTILITIES AND PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES. VIEW IN NANO VEHICLES, INCREASED REVENUE AND TAX BASE WITH A STRONG NEED FOR SELF STORAGE IN THE AREA, PLACES OF PRESIDENTIAL . WITH THAT, THE TEAM IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUEST

YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> THANK YOU.

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>> HI. GOOD PRESENTATION, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. QUICKLY FOR THE USE OF STORAGE I KNOW IT IS A GOOD MARKET. I WISH IT WAS AN IMPORTER GENERATOR, BUT I UNDERSTAND, THERE WERE SEVERAL THINGS ABOUT THE PROJECT I DID LIKE A LOT, GLAD YOU SHOWED A PICTURE OF THE FACILITY. THAT IS NICE, I APPRECIATE THE ARCHITECTURE ON THAT AND I APPRECIATE SINGLE-STORY. THAT IS BENEFICIAL. THE THING I LOVE THE MOST IS YOU WORK TO SAVE THOSE TREES AND KUDOS TO THE STAFF FOR IDENTIFYING THE TREES AND FOR WORKING WITH THEM TO PRESERVE THEM. NOT ALLOWING THIS , I DO APPRECIATE YOUR WORKING SO HARD AND YOU MADE SO MANY ADJUSTMENTS ON THE PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE THE TREES. MY ONLY QUESTION THAT I DON'T MEAN TO BE SNARKY , IT'S GOING TO COME OUT SNARKY AND I DON'T MEAN IT THAT WAY IN THE PUD APPLICATION, YOU HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THE INTENT TO IMPLEMENT LOW-IMPACT DEVELOPMENT PRINCIPLES AND THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SUCH LENGTHS TO WORK TO PRESERVE THE TREES , THAT'S KIND OF MY QUESTION. THIS UNIQUE EDGE, THE BUFFERS YOU NEED TO BE PLENTY AND PUTTING IN YOU WOULD BE REALLY COMMITTED TO WORKING TO TRY TO REDUCE SOME OF THE IMPACTS THAT ARE MADE BY CLEARCUTTING EVERYTHING AND THEN PLANTING, THERE'S QUITE THE BUFFER THERE ON THE SOUTHEAST EDGE. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS BETWEEN PUBLIX AND THE SOUTHWEST CORNER. EAST CORNER, EXCUSE ME. THERE IS QUITE A BIT AND I WAS THERE I DID QUITE A BIT OF WALKING AROUND IN THE BUFFERS NEEDED ALONG 16 AND WITH YOUR STORMWATER WE APPRECIATE THAT AND THE BUFFERS BETWEEN THE PUBLIX AND MISSION TRACE, YOU KNOW I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE INTENTIONS FOR THAT. THE INTENT TO REDUCE CLEARING IN THOSE AREAS AND LEAVE AS MUCH EXISTING VEGETATIVE AREAS UNDISTURBED SO THAT CORNER WITH A BEAUTIFUL GIANT OAK.

>> THAT'S THE ONE WITH A 35 FOOT CHAIN-LINK FENCE. ALL OF THESE TREES HAVE CHAIN-LINK FENCES TO PROTECT AND GEO GRID MATERIALS TO PREVENT THE DIRT FROM BEING COMPACTED. A LOT OF EFFORT WILL BE MADE UNDER THE SUPERVISION DURING THE CONSTRUCTION. THEY WILL BE MONITORING THESE TREES.

>> PLANTING FOR THE BUFFERING AS WELL, TRY TO PRESERVE

>> WE ARE REQUIRED 20 B SO EXCEPT FOR THE WAIVERS THAT ARE ONLY ALONG THAT PARCEL AT THE CORNER , SOUTHWEST CORNER THERE IS A BIG WEDGE GOING TO THE EAST THAT IS PRIMARILY TAKEN UP BY THE SPECIMEN TREE DRIFT LINE.

>> REGARDING THE WAIVERS, THAT'S GOING TO BE 312. YOU WILL HAVE THE ONE LITTLE SLIVER OF THE PUD PROPERTY THAT PREVENTS YOU FROM BEING A LOT.

>> ON 16 YOU CAN SEE IN THAT WHERE THE MAP IS SUPERIMPOSED IT WILL BE AT THE CORNER. IT IS TOUCHING THAT CORNER JUST HAD

AN ANGLE >> THE FRONT CORNER AND THE WAY THE PUD , THE OTHER WEDGE AND THUS THE NEED FOR REDUCTION.

OKAY. THANK YOU. >> THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION. BILL ALWAYS DOES A GREAT JOB, AS WELL. I DO WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON PRESERVATION OF THE SPECIMEN TREES. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR PUSHING BACK AND HAVING YOU PRESERVE THOSE TREES. I WAS NOT ABLE TO SEE YOUR APPLICATION, FOR SOME REASON IT FROZE MY COMPUTER TWICE TRYING TO GET TO THE MANAGEMENT PLAN, TREE MANAGEMENT. SO I WAS VERY INTERESTED TO READ THAT. BUT I COULD NOT SEE IT. SO I DIDN'T

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DO YOU HAVE AFTER DARK? >> THE PUD PROVIDES IT WILL COMPLY WITH REQUIREMENTS OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE'S WE ARE

NOT WAVERING ON THAT. >> TYPICALLY WHAT'S REQUIRED BY CODE DOWNWARD LIGHTING MONITORED 24 HOURS A DAY MONITORED RIGHT AROUND THE BUILDING , BUT NOT ANYTHING TO

BOTHER THE NEIGHBORS. >> ELECTRONIC KEY ACCESS?

>> YES, BUT THAT'S NOT 24 HOURS.

HERE FROM MISSION TRACE , I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY EMAILS. I KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN VERY MUCH INVOLVED AND PUSHING BACK AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST OF THEM NOT DEVELOPED UNDER THE LIVE LOCAL ACT. THEY MADE SOME GOOD POINTS ABOUT THAT. I'M NOT SURE MISSION TRACE PEOPLE WITH THE THIS IS BUFFERING THEM , I DON'T KNOW THAT, IF I LIVED IN MISSION TRACE I KNOW THERE COULD BE MORE INTENSIVE USE ON THE SITE, I'M NOT SURE I WOULD IF YOU AS A BUFFER.

>> I WILL TELL YOU MR. DAWKINS AND I MET WITH THE OWNERS, AS MANY AS THEY COULD SEVERAL TIMES AND THERE HAS BEEN AN EMAIL BACK AND FORTH AND IN FACT, THERE IS AT LEAST ONE PERSON HERE FROM THAT PUD. MR. DAWKINS HAS OFFERED AND THEY HAVE ASKED FOR US TO PUT UP A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION FENCE WHILE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND I MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHOW IT. OKAY.

THE BLUE IS GOING TO BE A PERMANENT FENCE CONSTRUCTED AND THEN, THE RED IS A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION FENCE WHICH WILL

TIE INTO. >> SO THE PERMANENT FENCE ON THE WEST SIDE, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE TAKEN OVER BY STATE

ROAD 312 EXTENSION? >> THIS WAS NOT EXECUTED , THAT'S WHAT WAS OFFERED, I WAS UNAWARE OF THIS INFORMATION, GO

AHEAD. >> THANK YOU. WE MET WITH THE HOA, THE PRESIDENT OF THE SMALL HOA. AND MR. THOMPSON IS HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE CLOSEST RESIDENT, BUT IF YOU SEE THE RED , THAT'S THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION FENCE .

WE TALKED ABOUT DOING A PERMANENT FENCE ALONG THE HOA OPEN SPACE PARCEL, THAT TRIANGLE BECAUSE HOA HAS PROBLEMS WITH HOMELESS SO THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, BUT WE REALLY COULD NOT GET THE HOA TO AGREE TO LET US PUT THE FENCE ON THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ACTION FOR THE HOA WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY DRAINAGE ISSUES, THEY LET US KNOW AND WE WILL WORK WITH THEM, BUT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION WE HAVE AGREED TO FENCE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY SO, NO CONSTRUCTION WORKERS GO ON

THEIR PROPERTY. >> THE BLUE FENCE AT THE TOP ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THIS IS TURNED 90 DEGREES AND NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT, THAT PERMANENT FENCE WILL NOT BE OBLITERATED BY STATE ROAD 312 EXTENSION?

>> ACTUALLY YES, EVENTUALLY WHEN 312 COMES IN, D.O.T. WILL PROBABLY END UP DOING A LARGE CONSTRUCTION WALL AND THAT IS SUPER IN THE FUTURE. SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE OFFERING THE PERMANENT FENCE UNTIL THE OTHER FENCE COMES IN, BUT WE WILL HAVE THE BLUE FENCE TO OUR PLAN SOUTH, THE WEST. WE WILL HAVE A

FENCE ON OUR PROPERTY. >> LET ME ASK ABOUT THE

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>> A COUPLE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY. ON 20-B BUFFER ON THE CORNER 50 FEET OUT OF 350 FEET THAT WE CANNOT PROVIDE THE 20 FEET SO THE BACK CORNER RIGHT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE MR. DAWKINS TO TALK, WE WORK HARD TO HAVE A LOW FA R AND ISR KEEPING A LIMITED ONE STORY RATHER THAN HAVING MULTIPLE STORIES AND GOING ABOVE 750 SO I BELIEVE THIS IS AS LOW ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE TO DO AND I WANT TO MENTION 5 FEET , I CALL IT ANTIQUATED FROM THE OLD STORAGE FACILITIES. I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE THE WORD, BUT WE CHECKED SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS, DEVOL, CLAY, PUTNAM AND FLAGLER DO NOT HAVE IT, WE HAVE IT.

I'M HOPING SOONER LATER THAT WILL BE ADJUSTED IN THE LAND

DEVELOPMENT CODE. >> THEY DON'T HAVE ANY

DISTANCE? >> THEY DON'T HAVE DISTANCE TO RESIDENTIAL, IT WILL HAVE SETBACKS LIKE THE PERIMETER

BUFFER. >> THOSE ARE GOOD ANSWERS.

GOOD, THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY WITH KNOWN ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE ? IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> MY NAME IS BILL THOMPSON, 371 371 MISSION TRACE DR., I CAN CLEAR UP A COUPLE THINGS WHILE I FINISH MY RING. I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT SOUTHEAST PROPERTY LINE MY LOT IS THE ONLY ONE CONNECTED TO MISSION TRACE DEVELOPMENTS. STORM WATER . STORM WATER RUNOFF EASEMENT GOING 900 FEET BESIDES THE PROPOSE 312 EXTENSION BORDERING OPPOSITE SIDE OF RUN OUT AND MY RESIDENCE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS WAS WATERSHED ON SUBDIVISION CAPACITY FOR BOTH NEW PROJECTS, SECONDARY CONCERN IS SECURITY PROTECTION FOR THE SUBDIVISIONS. THIS NATURAL PRESERVED TYPE WOODED PROPERTY IS TRESPASS WAS THERE NOT ANYMORE , PROPERTY NEEDS TO STAY SECURE FROM HOMELESS CAMPS AND CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY AND INTRUSION ON THE PROPERTY. I CONTACTED THE DEVELOPER EARLY ON AND WE HAVE HAD INFORMAL MEETINGS WITH OTHER BOARD MEMBERS TO MITIGATE THESE CONCERNS, NONE OF THE MEETINGS WERE OFFICIAL JUST A COURTESY IN NO WAY PART OF DECISION-MAKING PROCESSES. THE NEW PRIMARY SITE CONDITION MUST ANY IMPERMEABLE SURFACES ADJACENT TO DETENTION WHAT ADD ADDITIONAL NON-CALCULATED UNFORESEEN STORMWATER RUNOFF THAT WOULD AFFECT SUBDIVISION WATER MANAGEMENT EXTENSION IN THE REVISED SITE DESIGN THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE ADJACENT TO PROPERTY LIKE PROVIDES ROOF DRAINAGE TO UNDERGROUND IN THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE. THEY SHOULD MITIGATE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT STORMWATER RUNOFF WITH NO ROADS ADJACENT TO THE

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PROVIDING A COMMERCIAL SECURITY FENCE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE FROM PUBLIX BUFFER TO THE STATE ROAD 60 THE REDLINE. SECURITY WILL BE ENHANCED TO ELIMINATE SQUATTING PART OF THIS REQUEST IS SEPARATION OF PROPERTY OCCURS EARLY IN THE PROJECT CONSTRUCTION TIMELY TO KEEP DAMAGE FROM OCCURRING ON PROPERTY ALONG WITH CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS AND TRESPASSING DURING CONSTRUCTION. WE WORK TOGETHER AS A HANDSHAKE AGREEMENT PROVIDING THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO HAVE GOOD STORMWATER DRAINAGE AND UNTOUCHED GREEN BUFFER ALONG WITH SAFETY AND NOISE BUFFER, THIS AREA PROVIDES WITH THE PROPOSE STRUCTURE SINGLE-STORY LOW-PROFILE BUILDING OF SIMPLE EXTERIOR FINISH WITH INSIDE STORAGE ONLY WITH REDUCED TRAFFIC FLOW COMPARED TO OTHER POSSIBLE USE I DON'T THINK THERE COULD BE A BETTER APPLICATION FOR THIS SITE. THIS BEING SAID I PERSONALLY APPROVE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. I HAD A FEW OTHER THINGS I CAN CLEAR

UP. I AM OUT OF TIME. >> GO AHEAD.

>> OKAY, THE PREVIOUS SHOWING THE BLUE LINE THAT WAS A MISTAKE. THEY MISS UNDERSTOOD ME WHEN I WANT TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY LINE PROTECTED THEY THOUGHT WE WANTED THE WHOLE WHICH BUT THE TOP SITE THAT'S 312 WITHIN 75 FEET OF MY HOUSE. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING THERE WE JUST WANTED THEIR PROPERTY TO BE CONNECTED WITH A FENCE AND THEY AGREED TO DO THAT WITH A PERIMETER FENCE. IT IS CLOSE TO THE CORNER, AM AT THE CORNER HE SPOKE OF, BUT TO DO WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO WITH ANY VARIANCE IT'S UP TO YOU ALL. SINCE THERE IS NO OUTSIDE STORAGE WITH NO JUMP IN THE BACK OF IT WE ARE PROTECTING THE BUFFER BECAUSE THERE IS OLD-GROWTH PINE TREES HUNDREDS OF FEET TALL BACK THERE AND IT IS A HABITAT . THERE ARE STILL DEAR BACK THERE AND OTHER ANIMALS SO WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT AS A POSSIBLE SOUND BUFFER. THE REST DEPENDS ON THE ROAD. SO, I HOPE THAT HELPS. THAT'S THE BEST WE CAN LOOK

FOR >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE? SEEING NONE, ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? OKAY BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PUD 2023-09 SELF STORAGE PUD BASED ON NINE FINDINGS OF FACT

PROVIDED AND STAFF REPORT. >> MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S REGISTER.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING. MY BUTTON DID NOT LIGHT UP. I DO APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNER , THE DEVELOPER THAT THEY DID MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED AND APPARENTLY YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT OPPOSITION THEY MAY HAVE BECAUSE I KNOW THEY WERE VIGOROUSLY OPPOSED TO OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, PARTICULARLY TO THE EAST AND I REALLY FELT, I WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR

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SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. >> LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE .

OKAY THAT MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> AUTO NUMBER SIX AND SEVEN, ANY EX PARTE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN?

>> YES MANAGER A COUPLE OF SITE VISITS TO THIS PROPERTY.

>> I LOOKED AT MY EMAIL YESTERDAY AND THE DAY BEFORE AND I DID NOT SEE ANY LETTERS AT ALL FROM THE SHEARWATER COMMUNITY AND I WAS SURPRISED BECAUSE THEY WROTE QUITE A FEW LAST TIME AND HAD QUITE A FEW SPEAKERS SO I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO CONTACT ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE INTO US BEFORE ASKING IF SHE KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO BE RECONSIDERED TODAY AND APPARENTLY THEY KNEW AND SO, I DID CONTACT HER AND I DID

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EX PARTE. >> I DID A SITE VISIT .

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

ADDRESS ] WE DISCUSSED APPLICATION IN MARCH AS STATED 6.04 ACRES WITH A VERY SMALL ISOLATED WETLAND SOUTHWEST CORNER , .09 ACRES MITIGATED AS PART OF THE PROJECT. WE HAVE MET WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY ARBORIST WITH NO PROTECTED OR POTENTIAL SPECIMEN TREES IDENTIFIED ON THE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES WHICH WILL BOTH BE REMOVED AS PART OF ANY REDEVELOPMENT EFFORT, EXISTING WELLS AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS WILL BE PROPERLY ABANDONED TO ALLOW THE SITE TO BE CONNECTED TO CENTRAL WATER AND SEWER AVAILABLE TO THE PROPERTY. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IS FUTURE LAND USE MAP , TO THE NORTH SOON TO BE DEVELOPED TOWN CENTER WITH INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL LAND USE. SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD 210 EAST AND WEST ARE CURRENTLY ASHFORD MILLS OR THE SHEARWATER COMMUNITY HOUSING LAND USE DESIGNATION WITH THE EXCEPTION THE SCHOOL.

ORIGINALLY WE WERE REQUESTING TO DO A FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL BUT AFTER THE FEEDBACK AND CONVERSATIONS WE HAD WE WORKED WITH COUNTY STAFF, TALKED TO THE APPLICANT AND REALIZED THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH HIS GOALS WITHIN RESIDENTIAL C LAND-USE SO WE AMENDED APPLICATION TO LAND USE AMENDMENT REQUEST TO RESIDENTIAL C SO IT WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE EAST SIDE OF SHEARWATER AND 210 AS WELL AS ASHFORD MILLS. HERE'S THE EXISTING ZONING MAP WHICH YOU CAN SEE THE BEAUTY FOR THE ASHFORD MILLS AND TOWN CENTER TO THE NORTH AND THERE IS A ONE LOT PUD EAST OF SHEARWATER PARKWAY WITH THE DAYCARE AND RETAIL COMPONENT AND ALL OTHER PROPERTIES SOUTH SIDE AND ALL OTHER PROPERTIES S. SIDE COUNTY RD. 210 PROPERLY RULED DESIGNATION. SO, WE HAVE REMOVED CERTAIN USES FROM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ALLOWED USE, THIS SCREEN PROVIDES THE OVERVIEW OF THE USES WE ARE PROPOSING TO BE INCLUDED. THOSE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE BOLD ARE THOSE THAT ARE EXPECTED BASED ON CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BE ON-SITE IN PARTICULAR ACTIVELY PURSUING CONVERSATIONS WITH DIFFERENT MEDICAL HOSPITALS, FACILITIES, DOCTORS OFFICES TO HOPEFULLY PUT SOME SORT OF MEDICAL FACILITY OFFICE ON THE SITE. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN WE PRESENTED IN MARCH. WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED , WE SHOWED POTENTIAL FUTURE ACCESS POINT TO SHEARWATER PARKWAY WHICH HAD A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN. AS PART OF OUR SITE PLAN REDESIGN WE HAVE REMOVED ANY ACCESS TO FUTURE ACCESS TO SHEARWATER PARKWAY , THE EXISTING DRIVER ACCESS FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY NOW WILL BE CONVERTED TO A BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS POINT TO ENCOURAGE MULTIMODAL BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN ACTION IN PARTICULAR FROM RESIDENTS OF SHEARWATER. BUILDING B WE HAVE MOVED FROM A LONG SHEARWATER PARKWAY TO THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE, AS YOU CAN SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW. AND ALONG WITH THAT WE MADE A COUPLE OF REVISIONS TO THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN TEXT.

ONE THING WE ADDED WAS NO REAR ELEVATION FACING EITHER ROAD FRONTAGE SO THE BUILDINGS THE ROAD FRONTAGE WILL BE ORIENTED TOWARD COUNTY ROAD 210 AND SHEARWATER PARKWAY. COUNTY

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ADDITIONAL CHANGES. AFTER REVIEWING THE COUNTY ROAD TO 10 DAY CARE PUD, THEY HAD LANGUAGE ABOUT INTERSITE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN COMMERCIAL PARCELS, IF AGREED BETWEEN PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE ADDED SIMILAR LANGUAGE TO OUR PUD SO IF THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST EVER DEVELOPED WITH COMMERCIAL USE THE PROPERTY OWNERS COULD POTENTIALLY COME INTO AN AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE CROSS ACCESS WITHIN ANY DEVELOPMENT TO POTENTIALLY MINIMIZE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAYS ON COUNTY ROAD 210. THERE ARE NO CURRENT PLANS THAT I AM AWARE OF TO REZONE ADJACENT PROPERTY WE JUST WANTED TO INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE IN CASE SOMETHING EVER HAPPENS. AND THEN WE ADDED THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY OFF OF SHEARWATER WILL BE LIMITED TO BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS POINTS. THERE WAS ALSO CONCERN ABOUT PROPOSED 35 FOOT HEIGHT THE MIDST. SO WE WENT AND PULLED STRAIGHT FROM THE CODE SO PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD 35 FEET IS KIND OF A STANDARD HEIGHT , THIS TABLE ILLUSTRATES THE TOP SECTION , ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ZONING'S FROM THE CURRENT CODE AND IT SHOWS 35 FEET WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MAJORITY OF COMMERCIAL IS THE HEIGHT LIMIT IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. 40 FEET FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE CONVENTIONAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. COUNTY ROAD 210 WEST DAYCARE AND RETAIL PUD WHICH IS NOT THE IMMEDIATE EASTERN PARCEL, BUT ONE PARCEL IN HAVE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 35 FEET, COUNTY ROAD 210 PUD, THE MASTER PLAN TOWN CENTER TO THE NORTH SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD 210 A HEIGHT LIMIT OF 40 FEET AND WITHIN THE ASHFORD MILLS PUD THEY INCLUDE A VARIETY OF HEIGHT IMITATIONS FROM 35 FEET TO 65 FEET, COMMERCIAL OFFICE COMPONENT WHICH INCLUDES THE CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED PARCEL ON THE EAST SIDE OF SHEARWATER PARKWAY COULD POTENTIALLY BE UP TO 65 FEET, SO OUR PUD IS SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE DEVELOPED WITHIN THE ASHFORD MILLS PUD. AND THEN, THIS IS A COMPARISON OF THE TYPES OF USES THAT ARE WITHIN AND THE DENSITY OF THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE COMPONENT OF ASHFORD MILLS PUD THAT IS OBVIOUSLY PART OF A LARGER SITE, THE SITE FRONTING COUNTY ROAD 210 A COUPLE ACRES BUT THE TOTAL PUD UP TO 6.58 ACRES THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED WITH COMMERCIAL OFFICE USE AT A DENSITY OF UP TO 16,887 FT.÷ OF COMMERCIAL USE WITHIN THE PUD. OUR PUD COMPARISON 6.40 ACRES, MAXIMUM DENSITY 12,000 FT.÷ PER ACRE AND AGAIN A MAXIMUM, NOT A GIVEN , BUT WHAT COULD BE DONE. THE USE ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S ALLOWED WITHIN ASHFORD MILLS FOR COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USE COMPARED TO WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING AS WELL.

THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE NORTHWEST SECTOR COMMUNITY PLANNING AREA.

WITH THAT I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I AM STILL CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC ON 210. YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT'S A DEFICIENT ROAD SEGMENT OF TOTAL COMMITTED DAILY TRAFFIC, 122 %. SOME OF THE LETTERS WE GOT PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC BACKING UP TO A STANDSTILL ON 210 TRYING TO TURN IN SHEARWATER PARKWAY TO PICK CHILDREN UP FROM SCHOOL PERHAPS NOT, JUST A LOT OF TRAFFIC STILL BACKED UP SO YOU'RE VERY CLOSE TO SHEARWATER PARKWAY. THERE IS APPARENTLY TRAFFIC BACKUP

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ON A DEFICIENT ROAD SEGMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE KEEP IMPROVING PROJECTS THAT CONTINUE TO ADD TRAFFIC TO DEFICIENT ROADS BUT SOMEBODY MAYBE HAS AN ANSWER TO THAT. IF ANYONE WANTS TO ADDRESS IT. I WAS ALSO INTERESTED IN THIS POLICY 8.1.2.8 ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT, HOWEVER THIS IS DEVELOPMENT ON A VACANT PARCEL OR NOT VACANT, OR PARCELS OF LAND WITHIN DEVELOPMENT AREAS, THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPMENT AREA.

SURROUNDED BY EXISTING BUILDING AREAS THIS DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR THAT. I AM ALSO WORRIED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE SCHOOLCHILDREN AT TIMBERLAKE WERE TIMBER THAN BLAKE OR CREEK ELEMENTARY. WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC ON 210 AND BACKING UP, I APPLAUD YOU NOT GOING ON TO SHEARWATER PARKWAY. THAT MADE SOME HAPPY, BUT THEY CAN SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WILL SAY ON THAT. THAT IS A CONCERN AND AGAIN I MENTIONED BEFORE , YOU HAVE GOT ALREADY PERMITTED PLAN UNDERWAY 1,450,000 FT.÷ OF COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE ROAD AND THEN YOU POINTED OUT ASHFORD MILLS AT 280,000 FT.÷ ANOTHER 72,000 ANOTHER 72,000 FT.÷ IS THAT VIABLE AND NEEDED? I THOUGHT WE HAD TO HAVE A NEED FOR THESE KINDS OF APPROVALS THAT THEY NEED TO BE A NEED DEMONSTRATED. I DID NOT STATE THAT VERY WELL,

BUT IS THERE A NEED? >> THE PROPERTY OWNER FEELS THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR NEIGHBORHOODS SCALE MEDICAL GENERAL OFFICE TYPES OF USE WHICH IS HIS ULTIMATE GOAL, SOMETHING SHORT COMMUTE, GO TO THE DENTIST, YOUR REALTOR OFFICE, WITH THAT HE WANTED SECONDARY USE LIKE A COFFEE SHOP OR CORNER BAKERY OR SMALL SANDWICH SHOP, BUT HE HAS SEEN A NEED FOR NEIGHBORHOODS SCALE MEDICAL AND OFFICE TYPE OF USE AND THAT'S WHAT HE'S HOPING TO BRING TO THIS SITE.

>> WITH THOSE IN MIND DO YOU AGREE WITH THE TRAFFIC PROJECTIONS OF COUNTY STAFF OF 4800 OF 4801 WASN'T 95 CARS EVERY DAY IN AND OUT? THAT'S A LOT OF VEHICLES ON A DEFICIENT

HIGHWAY. >> THAT IS BASED ON THE GENERAL ITE CALCULATION OF MAXIMUM USE , NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT MEDICAL, WHATEVER THE MOST MAXIMUM DENSITY USE COULD BE THAT'S WITH THE CALCULATION WAS BASED WE HAVE NOT DONE A CUSTOM STUDY AT THIS STAGE BECAUSE HE IS IN EARLY CONVERSATION WITH POTENTIAL USERS, I CAN STATE THE GOAL IS TO NOT BEGIN CONSTRUCTION UNTIL THE COUNTY ROAD TO 10 CONSTRUCTION THROUGH THE AREA IS COMPLETE AND WHICH IS ALSO WHY WE WERE TRYING TO INCLUDE THE INTER-CONNECTIVITY LANGUAGE SO HOPEFULLY IF THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS EVER DEVELOPED WITH COMMERCIAL TYPE USE AND THE AGREEMENT CAN BE HAD THAT WOULD FURTHER PULL THE INTER-PARTICULAR TRAFFIC AWAY FROM THAT INTERSECTION IF IT'S BACKED UP .

>> YOU MENTION THE 210 UPGRADE WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT

MIGHT OCCUR COMPLETE? >> I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION. IT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW AND YOU KNOW WHERE TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THEY TAKE A COUPLE YEARS. BASED ON MY CONVERSATION HE IS EXPECTING HE WOULD NOT SERIOUSLY BEGIN TRYING TO DO THIS FOR

APPROXIMATELY FIVE YEARS. >> OKAY, INTERESTING. THANK

YOU. >> HI. I HAVE A LITTLE CONCERN WELL, SEVERAL CONCERNS WITH THIS PROJECT, ONE YOU CAN MAYBE HELP ME OUT WITH. TO YOSEMITE FROM HERE WHO DID THE

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>> THEY ARE NOT HERE BUT IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND TO PULL IT UP

I WILL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER. >> THE THIRD MAP YOU PROVIDED.

YOU PROVIDED NUMBER SIX FUTURE LAND USE WITH A LOCATION MAP.

WITH THE ZONING AND ON THE NEXT PAGE YOU PROVIDED A WETLANDS

MAP. >> YES, CAN SOMEONE TURN ON THE

PROJECT ? >> I HAVE A COPY OF IT.

>> THIS IS THE MAP YOU ARE REFERRING TO?

>> YES IT IS. YOU SAY THERE'S ONLY .8 ACRES OF WETLANDS IMPACTED ON THIS PROJECT. TO ME, THAT LOOKS LIKE OVER HALF THE PROJECT. I'M NOT THE WETLANDS EXPERT. SO, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DISCREPANCY? I LOOKED THROUGH AND TRY TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERSON AND EVIDENTLY IS OUT OF THE OFFICE FOR THE WEEK AND I CANNOT REACH.

>> I CANNOT SPEAK , I'M NOT THE ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST YOU CAN SEE PART OF THE MAP GOES OVER THE EXISTING POND LOCATED AT THE BACK OF THE SITE. THE ACTUAL WETLAND MAP, LET ME SEE IF I CAN. USUALLY THERE IS ANOTHER MAP.

>> I GUESS THIS IS THE ONLY MAP I HAVE. UNFORTUNATELY I CANNOT SPEAK TO IT BUT IT HAS BEEN CERTIFIED BY CARTER ENVIRONMENTAL THERE IS A .09 ACRE ISOLATED WETLAND IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE AND YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT ON YOUR SCREEN, IT IS EXTENDING INTO THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES, BUT IT IS CLASSIFIED AS ISOLATED WETLAND.

>> A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE. OKAY, THERE IS A LAKE AND A RIVER IN THE PICTURE SHEESH HAD . THERE IS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE LAKE AND A LITTLE STREAM ALONG THERE. RADICALLY CONNECTING WITH THE NEXT PROPERTY. IS THAT, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE NEXT PROPERTY WHEN THIS IS PAVED OVER AND HAS A BUILDING? HOW DOES THAT WORK? IT LOOKS LIKE THE WETLANDS CONTINUE SO I DON'T KNOW CERTIFYING THE ONE CORNER IS THE ONLY WETLAND I'M SORRY LOOKING AT WHAT I SEE AND IT WAS PROVIDED IN THE PACKET. I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED.

>> CERTAINLY FOR THE RECORD JACOB SMITH. AND I HAVE THE MAP THAT THE APPLICANT WAS LOOKING FOR PART OF THE PUD PACKAGE .

NOT THE CPA. IT DOES SHOW THE WETLANDS. IT IS NOT THE ENTIRE AREA HIGHLIGHTED, IT IS A VERY SMALL PORTION OF IT. SO, AGAIN I CANNOT SPEAK , I AM NOT A WETLANDS EXPERT, BUT THERE IS A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE TYPES OF MAPS WE ARE LOOKING AT AND ULTIMATELY IT IS A SMALL PORTION OF THE SITE THAT IS A WETLAND. AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE , WHEN DEVELOPED IT HAS TO GO THROUGH TECHNICAL REVIEW AND THE ENGINEERING STAFF WILL MAKE SURE ALL DRAINAGE AND WATER FLOW IS AS REQUIRED BY REGULATION.

>> OKAY, WELL I AM LEARNING. A QUESTION AND I WAS NOT ABLE TO GET THE ANSWER SO I THOUGHT I WOULD BRING IT UP. THE NEXT QUESTION FOR STAFF IS REGARDING STRIP COMMERCIAL ALONG THE ROADWAY. I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT EXACTLY THAT MEANS, IT LOOKS LIKE THE WAY THE BUILDING IS CONFIGURED IS THE BACK OF THE BUILDING WILL BE FACING TO 10?

>> NO BUILDINGS FRONTING 210. NO BUILDING REAR. OR SHEARWATER

PARKWAY. >> MAYBE I AM MISREADING THIS.

I APOLOGIZE IF THAT'S THE CASE. BUILDING A . 210 RIGHT THERE AND THAT'S NOT THE BACK OF THE BUILDING?

>> IT WILL NOT BE THE REAR. AT THIS STAGE, NO RENDERINGS HAVE

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BEEN . >> SO THIS IS SORT OF THE

GENERAL IDEA. >> IF THE SITE PLAN IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT AT TIME OF PERMITTING AND IT COULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU IF SIGNIFICANTLY ALTERED.

>> THAT WAS A QUESTION BECAUSE I DID NOT KNOW WHAT THAT STRIP MEANT. JUST A BUILDING ALONG THE ROAD LIKE THEY HAVE ON THIS ONE WHERE I LIVE IT IS NOT VERY ATTRACTIVE. I UNDERSTAND THE SECTOR THAT PROHIBITS THAT . STRIP DEVELOPMENT. HOW WOULD

THAT DIFFER? >> THE CLUSTERING UP TO THE BUILDINGS IS OUR INTERPRETATION . HERE IS THE UPDATED SITE PLAN. CLUSTERING THE BUILDING AS OUR INTERPRETATION NOT DOING A STRIP MALL TYPE DEVELOPMENT, MOVING FORWARD IT IS POSSIBLE THEY MAY DO THREE BUILDINGS OR SOME VARIATION SIMILAR BUT AGAIN IF THERE IS CHANGES YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS AND THAT IS VERY TYPICAL OF ALL PUD'S MOVING

FORWARD THROUGH DEVELOPMENT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MY THIRD QUESTION FOR STAFF, THIS MEDICAL FACILITY, OR THOSE APPROVED ALREADY FOR COMMERCIAL RED ACROSS THE STREET COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ARE THOSE USES THAT COULD BE IN THE ZONE WE ALREADY APPROVED THAT MAY BE A NEED?

>> THIS IS OUR SUMMARY SO I OF OUR REVIEW OF ASHFORD MILLS PUD COMMERCIAL OFFICE ALLOWED WITHIN COMMERCIAL OFFICE OF ASHFORD MILLS PUD AND THEY INCLUDE GENERAL BUSINESS COMMERCIAL USE, OFFICE USE, NEIGHBORHOOD PUBLIC SERVICE EMERGENCY. MY ASSUMPTION WOULD BE LIKELY BUT I DO NOT HAVE THAT PUD WITH ME TO DIG DEEP RIGHT NOW.

>> SPEAKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO THE NORTH. IS THAT CORRECT THOSE WOULD BE ALLOWED ?

>> MEDICAL OFFICE WOULD BE ALLOWED INTENSE COMMERCIAL.

>> SO WE HAVE SOME APPROVAL FOR THAT NEED. THOSE ARE MY

QUESTIONS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I HAD A QUESTION WHICH MIGHT BE FOR STAFF THEN THE APPLICANT, GOING FROM 72% CAPACITY BASED ON MY KNOWLEDGE OF THAT STRIP , THAT CAPACITY INCLUDES WIDENING CURRENTLY BEING BUILT. 122% MEANS THERE IS 50% OF THE ROADWAY CAPACITY IN RESERVE STATUS . I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT'S ALL BUNCH OF PROJECTS ALONG THERE THAT WILL PERHAPS NOT EVER COME TO FRUITION OR MAYBE THEY WON'T DEVELOP TO THEIR FULL POTENTIAL BECAUSE TYPICALLY YOU ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO.

SO I JUST ASSUMED THE 50% HAS TO DO WITH THE 280,000 FT.÷, COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE WAY WITH RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST. I ASSUME, THERE'S A BUNCH OF PIECES OF RESERVE CAPACITY IN HERE. SO, THAT'S A LOADED QUESTION. ISN'T IT?

>> YES THAT IS A LOADED QUESTION. ANYBODY WITH RESERVE CONCURRENCY FOR ANY PROJECT STILL VALID THAT HAS VALID CONCURRENCY IS ADDING TO THAT. OFTEN TIMES THOSE CURRENCIES ARE TRIPS THAT MAYBE DON'T HAVE NEW ROADS SO, WITH CONSTRUCTION OF VETERAN PARKWAY COMING DOWN SOME OF THOSE TRIPS WOULD BE CONTRIBUTING. DEFINITELY A LOADED QUESTION.

YOU KNOW SOME PROJECTS MAY GENERATE CONCURRENCY FOR JUST BY THE NATURE OF SOME USE GENERATING MORE TRAFFIC THAN OTHERS, WHEREAS WE MIGHT SEE LOWER TRIPS WITH OTHER ONES.

THEORETICALLY WE MAY NEVER SEE THAT TOTAL SITTING OUT THERE, BUT THOSE TRIPS ARE RESERVED FOR PROJECTS. THEORETICALLY WE COULD HIT THAT, BUT IN ACTUALITY WILL WE SEE IT HAPPEN? AGAIN A LOADED QUESTION, CHANGES IN THE ROAD NETWORK WHO SEES -- KNOWS IF WE WILL SEE THAT. IT IS DYNAMICALLY CHANGING THAT AREA, AS WELL.

>> GOOD ANSWER, THANK YOU. ) >> OKC NONE WILL GO BACK TO THE AUDIENCE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN PLEASE COME FORWARD STATE YOUR NAME AND

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COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ARTIST FOR THE RECORD. YOU

HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU I LIVE AT 331 WHEN SWIFT WAY IN SHEARWATER. LET ME START BY MAKING PERFECTLY CLEAR THE SHEARWATER COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT THE PROPOSAL TO BE APPROVED. IT. ANY CHANGES WE REQUESTED WERE ON THE BASIS THAT IF WE WERE VOTED DOWN WE WOULD WANT THESE OTHER THINGS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. THERE ARE FOUR ISSUES I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS. AS YOU MENTIONED, IS THERE A NEED FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY? YOU BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF US AT THE LAST MEETING WE ARE AT OVERCAPACITY AND WHEN 210 CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE OVERCAPACITY FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS. QUESTION NUMBER ONE, IS THERE A NEED FOR THIS PROPERTY? NUMBER TWO. WILL NO THE TOWN CENTER HAS BEEN PROCESSED AND ON THE NORTH SIDE AT THAT TIME OR SOONER THE INTERSECTION WILL LIKELY NEED TO BE EXPANDED WE ANTICIPATE A THIRD EGRESS LANE FROM SHEARWATER INTO 210 AT THAT TIME, IF NOT SOONER TURN LANES AND ACCELERATION LANES WANT TO BE ADDED ONTO HUNDRED 10. AND THE LOCATION OF THE ENTRANCE EXIT FOR THIS PROPOSED PROPERTY IS ON THE INSIDE OF THE SHEARWATER ENTRY LANE , THE EXIT WILL IMPACT THAT ENTRY LANE. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A SAFETY TRAFFIC ISSUE. NUMBER THREE AS WE PRESENTED AT APRIL 18 MEETING WITH PHOTOS AND DIAGRAM THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC FOR THE SCHOOLS. EVERY DAY, MORNING AND AFTERNOON, TRAFFIC OBVIOUSLY BACKS UP, AS OF AUGUST ALL SHEARWATER STUDENTS, ELEMENTARY STUDENTS WILL BE ATTENDING THE NEW SCHOOL THAT NOW BORDERS ON 16-8. THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC COMING TO TIMBERLANE TO BACKFIELD WITH THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS FROM SHEARWATER HAVE OPENED UP. SO IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE WITH THE TRAFFIC BACKING UP EVEN FURTHER ON 210.

NUMBER FOUR SHEARWATER HAS A ONGOING WATER PRESSURE PROBLEM BOTH WITH POTTED AND RECLAIMED WATER AS ACKNOWLEDGED BY JE A.

WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON IT. WE LITERALLY CANNOT WATER OUR LAWNS, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH WATER PRESSURE. FOR THIS AND OTHER REASONS WE ASK THAT YOU NOT CONSIDER THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IF WE HAD OPENLY BEEN TREATED THE WAY THE PRIOR PRESENTATION WAS, THE NUMBER FIVE CONSIDERATION IT MADE HAVE GONE A LOT EASIER, BUT WE FEEL LIKE WE WERE KEPT IN THE DARK. THANK YOU.

>> YOU CAN COME UP., LINEUP THE OTHER ONE AFTER HER. NEXT PERSON IN LINE THERE AND YOU CAN GO BACK AND FORTH.

>> CAN I RESPOND? >> YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND YOU CAN START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS SPREADSHEET THE TRAFFIC IS 122.2% OVERCAPACITY AS YOU SAID DIVISION, ST. JOHNS COUNTY 2025 CONFERENCE A PLAN OBJECTIVE 8.1.2.5 SPEAKS ABOUT THE EXTENT TO WHICH ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE TO ACCOMMODATE AMENDMENT EXIST OR IS PROGRAMMED AND FUNDED THROUGH ADOPTED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE. ROADS ARE INADEQUATE TO CARRY THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC EVEN AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED WITH ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR 210 WEST HAVING NO FUNDING NOR ARE INCLUDED IN THE FIVE YEAR FUNDING PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL WIDENING. OUR CONCERN IS THE HIGH IMPACT TRAFFIC COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE 290 PARKING SPACES IT WILL OVERBURDEN NOT ONLY TRAFFIC BUT ALSO THE TRAFFIC ENTERING SHEARWATER PARKWAY TO MAKE A U-TURN IN ORDER TO TRAVEL BACK WEST ON 210 WEST.

WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE UPKEEP AND COST OF UPKEEP OF SHEARWATER PARKWAY SO THIS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE A BURDEN TO OUR RESIDENTS. ENTERPRISE PLANS MY CONCERN IS

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SHEARWATER RESIDENTS WOULD ALSO LIKE THAT BEAUTIFUL VIEW WHEN WE COME HOME. I WANTED TO RESPOND, I KNOW I SENT AN EMAIL BACK. WE HAD 530 SIGNATURES ORIGINALLY AND A BUNCH OF EMAILS WERE SENT, NONE OF THOSE RESIDENTS HAVE RESPONDED TO SAY THAT THEY AGREE WITH THE PLANS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

COMMUNITY HAS A ONGOING WATER PRESSURE ISSUE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE HOMES WITH A LACK OF IRRIGATION WATER. THERE IS ESTIMATED TO BE 2000 HOMES CURRENTLY IN A PROJECTED 800 MORE BUILT , IN AN EFFORT TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY SHEARWATER FAMILIES ARE AFFECTED BY WATER PRESSURE ISSUES, I CONDUCTED A POLL ON SHEARWATER FACEBOOK PAGE ASKING THEM TO RESPOND EITHER NO I DON'T HAVE A WATER PRESSURE ISSUE OR YES I HAVE A PARTIAL ISSUE OR YES COMPLETE LOSS OF WATER PRESSURE. THE RESULT WAS STAGGERING . 90% BETWEEN THE TWO YES RESPONSES ISSUED. I JUST DO NOT EVEN KNOW HOW THIS COMMUNIY CAN BE EXPECTED TO KEEP ON TAKING IT. JEA IS HELPING WITH NO GUARANTEE THAT WHEN SHEARWATER IS CONNECTED TO RECLAIM WATER THAT OUR WATER PRESSURE OR LACK OF IRRIGATION WATER WILL IMPROVE. CURRENTLY, THERE IS A AUTOMATED VALVE ON THE IRRIGATION MAIN WHICH MONITORS WATER PRESSURE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF SHEARWATER PARKWAY. WHEN THE PRESSURE VALVE , THE SOLENOID CUTS THE WATER OFF TO OUR IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND WE EITHER HAVE COMPLETE LOSS OF WATER PRESSURE OR PARTIAL LOSS OF TREASURE. THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WILL UTILIZE APPROXIMATELY 10,870 GALLONS PER DAY OF POTABLE WATER AND GENERATE 10,870 GALLONS PER DAY OF SANITARY SEWER USE. FOR THE INFORMATION FROM JEA THE NUMBER ONE CONNECTION POINT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE THE EXISTING 16 INCH WATER MAIN ALONG CR 210 WEST WITH CONNECTION POINT NUMBER TWO , THE EXISTING 16 INCH WATER MAIN ON SHEARWATER PARKWAY . THE CONNECTION POINT NUMBER ONE OVER THE EXISTING 12 INCH WATER MAIN ALONG SHEARWATER PARKWAY FOR RECLAIMED WATER. PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS EXTRA BURDEN ON THE SHEARWATER RESIDENTS, THESE ARE OUR NEIGHBORS, FAMILY, FRIENDS AND RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THIS IS TOO MANY ISSUES FOR THIS COMMUNITY TO HAVE TO BEAR. WE ARE ASKING TO NOTATE ON THE PLAN THAT THEY WILL FIND ANOTHER SOLUTION AND NOT UTILIZE THE WATER MAINS ALONG SHEARWATER PARKWAY. THANK

YOU. >> HI MY NAME IS LIVE AT APPROVE THIS PUD. ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WE HAVE IN SHEARWATER HAS ALREADY BEEN SET, SCHOOL TRAFFIC DURING MORNING AND AFTERNOON AT TIMBERLINE CREEK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. I BELIEVE ONE OF YOU CAME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO LOOK AND WITNESS FOR YOURSELF THE ISSUES AND THE BACKUP OF TRAFFIC DURING THOSE TIMES. NOW THAT THE NEW SCHOOL WILL BE OPENING IN AUGUST, ALL OF THE STUDENTS THAT USED TO GO TO THE SCHOOL FROM SHEARWATER WILL BE GOING TO THE BACK OF THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WHOLE BERLIN CREEK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL , ALL THE NEW STUDENTS WILL BE COMING FROM OUTSIDE SHEARWATER MOST

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ANYWAY, THIS WILL INTENSIFY TRAFFIC ON BOTH HUNDRED 10 TURNING ON SHEARWATER AND SHEARWATER AS WELL THERE IS CURRENTLY A LINE OF CARS THAT TURNED TO SHEARWATER OFF SCHOOL HOURS AND THIS WILL CREATE EVEN A BIGGER BACKUP ON 210 IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOON THE OPPOSIT WILL HAPPEN. ALL THOSE CARS AND BUSES WILL LEAVE AND TURNING RIGHT OR LEFT AUNT 210. AND THEN YOU ADD TO THAT A RAINY DAY, ON A RAINY DAY TWICE AS MANY PARENTS DRIVE THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL AND THE TRAFFIC GETS SO MUCH WORSE. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT YOU ADD 72,000 AND CHANGE COMMERCIAL BUILDING ON THE CORNER OF 210 AND SHEARWATER. YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A DISASTER WITH TRAFFIC. AND ON TOP OF THAT, YOU ADD TOWN CENTER ACROSS THE STREET, GOD KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN. SO, THIS POSES SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUES FOR SCHOOLCHILDREN AS WELL AS THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND IT WILL ALSO INCREASE TRAFFIC ON THE CORNER BACKING UP CARS IN BOTH DIRECTIONS ON SHEARWATER AND 210. I PLEAD WITH PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY TO NOT APPROVE THE PUD . THANK

YOU. >> HI.

PUD IS FOR 72,480 IS FOR 72,480 FT.÷. WHICH MEANS , WILL THERE BE ENOUGH PARKING? FOR MEDICAL SERVICES, AT THAT RATE THEY WOULD NEED 290 PARKING SPACES , PROFESSIONAL, 242 FOR COMMERCIAL 144. REGARDLESS OF THE TENANTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT THE PARKING LOT IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE FULL AND WITH 122% CAPACITY ON THE ROAD NOW, HOW ABOUT FEED IN AND OUT OF THE PARKING LOT ALONG WITH SCHOOL TRAFFIC , NOT ONLY STUDENTS WHO GO TO THE SCHOOL WILL BE EITHER ON THE BUS OR DRIVEN TO SCHOOL AS PREVIOUS YEARS , THAT SCHOOL PROVIDED EDUCATION FOR SHEARWATER AND THEY'RE GOING TO THE SCHOOL IN THE BACK. ALSO I HAVE A QUESTION. THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE LANDOWNER , THE PUD FOR HEIGHT AND SQUARE FOOTAGE. WAS THERE ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC AT THE TIME OF THAT? WAS IT 122%? I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK THAT'S THE MAJOR ISSUE. I UNDERSTAND PROGRESS IS IMPORTANT IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, BUT I DO FEEL SAFETY TO THE CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY AROUND SCHOOL SHOULD BE A LITTLE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE ECONOMY AND GROWTH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR

TIME. >> THINK USER.

>> MY NAME IS AT 345 WIND SWEPT AWAY. PART OF THAT I LIVED IN FRUIT COLD FOR 20 YEARS, PROUD TO BE A LONG-TERM RESIDENT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. IN THE EVENT YOU CHOOSE TO PROVE THIS PUD IN THE FRONT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD I AM HERE TO REQUEST SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS BE INCLUDED TO THE LANDSCAPING PLANS. THE WEST SIDE OF SHEARWATER PARKWAY WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS TO BE DONE SHOULD BE COMPLETED IN SUCH A WAY TO MIRROR THE EAST SIDE OF SHEARWATER PARKWAY. THE DRIVE ON SHEARWATER PARKWAY SHOULD BE COMPLETELY REMOVED , CURB CUTS REMOVED AND PROPER CURBING AND SIDEWALK RESTORED. IDENTICAL FENCING TO BE INSTALLED TO MATCH CURRENT FENCING IN THE AREA WHERE THE DRIVEWAY WAS. GRASS INSTALLED WERE NEEDED AS WELL A SIMILAR SIZED SHRUBBERY AND TREES PLACED ALONG THE WEST SIDE.

AGAIN, TO MIRROR THE BEAUTIFUL EAST SIDE OF THE PARKWAY ENTRANCE. ALSO, ON THE REVISED MAP THE 911 ADDRESS FOR THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HAS TWO ADDRESS LOCATIONS LISTED. 4125 COUNTY RD. 210 WEST AS WELL AS 30 AS WELL AS 30 SHEARWATER PKWY. THERE WILL NO LONGER BE A PHYSICAL ADDRESS ON SHEARWATER PARKWAY. SO TO AVOID CONFUSION WE ARE REQUESTING 30 SO TO AVOID CONFUSION WE ARE REQUESTING 30 SHEARWATER PKWY.

BE REMOVED AS ADDRESS AND FROM ANY 911 LISTINGS. WE ALL KNOW THAT A VERY LARGE COMMERCIAL TOWN CENTER WILL BE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR SHEARWATER ENTRANCE PROPOSING

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JOHNS RESIDENT, I THINK SOMETIMES CHANGE IS JUST A WAY FOR SOMEBODY TO MAKE MONEY AND RUN AND THAT CHANGE AFFECTS THE LONG-TERM QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL COUNTY RESIDENTS. THAT KIND OF CHANGE IS NOT GOOD. I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO NOT APPROVE THIS 2023-22 SHEARWATER 210 PUD REQUEST. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I NAME IS NAME ] AND I LIVE AT REDUNDANT AND THERE IS BASICALLY ONLY ONE ISSUE I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP WHICH DEALS WITH THE SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL CONCERN THAT I HAVE AND I THINK A NUMBER OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE. I RECOGNIZE THAT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIRES CERTAIN THINGS TO BE DONE IN TERMS OF SOLID WASTE SCREENING, MECHANICAL SCREENING , BUT AS I LOOK AT THE PROPOSED MAP I DO NOT SEE ANY EDUCATION , AT THIS TIME AS TO WHAT WILL BE PUT IN EFFECT WHERE THE TRASH RECEPTACLES WILL BE , IF THERE IS ENOUGH ROOM. LOOKING AT THE PROPOSAL THERE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE A LOT OF ROOM TO PUT THE TRASH RECEPTACLES . THERE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE A LOT OF REAR BUILDING ACCESS FOR DELIVERY PEOPLE , TRASH , YOU KNOW TRASH DISPOSAL TRUCKS. I THINK THIS IS A CONCERN WE ALL HAVE BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO COUNTY ROAD 210 AND EQUALLY ITS PROXIMITY TO THE SHEARWATER PARKWAY. THERE IS NO INDICATION AS TO WHAT TYPE OF SCREENING WILL BE DONE. IN TERMS OF TREES OR PLANTING SHRUBS OR FENCES OR WHAT TYPE OF MECHANICAL SCREENING. SO BASICALLY, THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE AT THIS POINT AND I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, LINDA LEE, THE CHANGES MADE BY THE DEVELOPER WE STILL HAVE CONCERNS. SHE HEARD A LOT OF THE CONCERNS BUT THE MAIN CONCERNS ARE TRAFFIC NEEDS AND IS THERE ANY? SHE MENTIONED MEDICAL BUILDINGS AND DENTAL OFFICES. WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE MEDICAL BUILDINGS, 1.9 MILES FROM THE HOUSE THERE IS A BAPTIST PRIMARY. 3 1/2 MILES FROM THE HOUSE MULTIPLE DENTIST OFFICES. ALSO ON THE EAST SIDE OF SHEARWATER PARKWAY, THEY PUT IN A SMALL DEVELOPMENT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. IT HAS COFFEE SHOP BUT THE BUILDING IS NOT EVEN FULL YET, HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FILL IT WITH TENANTS. SO WILL BE AND UP WITH THESE GIANT BUILDINGS OVER HERE THAT THEY CANNOT EVEN FILL? THAT THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PARK IN THE BACK AND HAVE TO WALK AROUND THE BUILDING TO GET TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING WHICH THE LADY JUST SAID WOULD BE ON 210. I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT CONCEPT. ANOTHER CONCERN WE WOULD LIKE AND WE HAVE SPECIFIC HOME TYPES IN SHEARWATER. IF, FOR SOME REASON YOU DO DECIDE TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT, WE HAVE CRAFTSMAN STYLE HOMES, COASTAL TRADITIONAL AND FLORIDA FARMHOUSE. WE HOPE THAT THEY WOULD AT LEAST BUILD SOMETHING TO COMPLEMENT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE IN THE PUD THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON.

SHEARWATER. MANY OF THE THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO SAY ARE A SUMMARY OF WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID. I FEEL LIKE I NEEDED TO EMPHASIZE, WE CANNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH AS YOU KNOW CONCERNS ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON 210 SPECIFICALLY THE INTERSECTION OF SHEARWATER PARKWAY. THE NUMBER OF CARS ON 210 WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ALREADY EXCEEDS NORMAL LIMITS ON A DAILY BASIS AND THAT NUMBER WILL CONTINUE TO GROW. AND AGAIN AS FAR AS THE SCHOOL AND THE SAFETY OF OUR KIDS , AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE NEW SCHOOL WILL OPEN AT THE BACK OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN SCHOOL RESUMES IN AUGUST. AND SO ALL OF OUR SHEARWATER KIDS WILL GO THERE. AND AGAIN THE TIMBERLINE CREEK STUDENTS WILL COME FROM OUTSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AGAIN WITH MUCH MORE TRAFFIC. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN RESIDENCE, DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF DAY THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO LEAVE, ESPECIALLY IN THE MORNING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY, BUT YOU CANNOT GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT TRAFFIC ALREADY. AS AN ASIDE, AS LINDA MENTIONED THE SMALL STRIP CENTER ON THE RIGHT WHEN YOU EXIT SHEARWATER HAS BEEN THERE A YEAR AND A HALF AND IS NOT EVEN COMPLETELY OCCUPIED. AND WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE SAME THING POSSIBLY HAPPENING IN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. I HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER OUR OVERLINE CONCERNS REGARDING SUCCESS OF TRAFFIC IN THE AREA, THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN AND RESIDENTS AND THE GENERAL AESTHETICS OF THE BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ASK THAT YOU NOT APPROVE THIS

PUD. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY, I AM FRANK MURPHY, ALSO SERVE ON THE CDD BOARD WHERE SHEARWATER IS LOCATED. I WILL BE REDUNDANT BECAUSE THESE ARE CRITICAL ISSUES AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT YOU HAVE HEARD SHEARWATER RESIDENCE. THERE ARE MANY CONCERNS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHICH CONSISTS OF 2100 HOMES AND 6000 RESIDENTS REGARDING THIS POTENTIAL REZONING. THE APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AND SUBSEQUENT DEVELOPMENT OF TWO BUILDINGS TOTALING 72,000 FT.÷ PLUS PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE 200 TO 300 CARS WHICH WOULD ENTER AND LEAVE ON ROUTE 210 WILL NOT ONLY AFFECT SHEARWATER RESIDENCE, BUT ALSO DIRECTLY AFFECT THE GENERAL PUBLIC. COUNTY STUDIES HAVE SHOWN EVEN AFTER COUNTY ROUTE 210 WIDENING IS COMPLETED THE ROAD WILL BE OVERCAPACITY ADDING THE PROPOSED SITE WOULD ATTRACT HUNDREDS OF ADDITIONAL VEHICLES THAT'S ALREADY HEAVILY TRAFFICKED. FURTHERMORE, STARTING IN AUGUST, ALL STUDENTS ATTENDING TIMBERLINE ELEMENTARY , WHICH IS ACCESSED SOLELY FROM COUNTY ROUTE 210 AND SHEARWATER PARKWAY INTERSECTION WILL BE TRAVELING TO SCHOOL BY SCHOOL BUS AND CARS. IN THE PAST, MANY IF NOT MOST THE STUDENTS ATTENDING THE SCHOOL LIVED IN SHEARWATER AND DID NOT HAVE TO ACCESS 210 TO GET TO SCHOOL. THAT WILL CHANGE COME AUGUST. SHEARWATER ELEMENT YOUR KIDS WILL BE GOING TO THE NEW SCHOOL. WE WILL HAVE AN INORDINATE INCREASE OF TRAFFIC AT THE INTERSECTION OF SHEARWATER AND 210 IN THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON WHEN SCHOOL OPENS AND CLOSES. ADDING A COMMERCIAL BUILDING AT THIS LOCATION LITERALLY AT THE INTERSECTION EMMA YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A VERY BAD TRAFFIC SITUATION WORSE. WE TALKED ABOUT IT ALREADY, ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR COMMUNITY IT'S ALREADY APPROVED TO HAVE A 1,500,000 FT.÷ OF RETAIL SPACE.

THIS WILL MORE THAN SATISFY THE COUNTY NEED FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN OUR AREA, APPROVAL OF THIS PROPOSED

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THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE. )

>> OKAY THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT THROUGH. THERE WITH ME.

SO, TO SPEAK TO THE JEA AND CAPACITY. AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, JEA TELLS THE PROPERTY TO CONNECT THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TO CONNECT. IF THEY SAY IT HAS TO BE SHEARWATER PARKWAY , THERE IS NO CONTROL OVER THAT, IT IS BEYOND THE HANSA PROPERTY OWNERS OR DEVELOPERS. THAT SAID IF THE COMMUNITY IS CURRENTLY HAVING CAPACITY ISSUES AND JEA IS WAITING TO IMPROVE CAPACITY, IF YOU WENT TODAY WITH A PERMIT SEEKING WHENEVER THE ESTIMATED CAPACITY IS BASED ON ENGINEER PLANS THEY CAN AND WOULD POTENTIALLY DENY A POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BASED ON CAPACITY.

THEY HAVE NOT INDICATED AT THIS STAGE THERE IS A CAPACITY PROBLEM WITH THE HIGH LEVEL OF GROWTH OCCURRING IN THE AREA WE ALL KNOW THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM AND THEY MAY BE STRUGGLING TO GET THE CAPACITY. SO IF CAPACITY IS UNAVAILABLE AT THE TIME THAT WE SEEK TO APPLY FOR PERMITS WE COULD BE TOLD TO WAIT. THEY WILL NOT ALLOW US TO HAVE ACCESS AND PERMIT IF CAPACITY IS NOT AVAILABLE. SO JUST A KIND OF IN MY PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT. IF JEA SAYS CAPACITY IS NOT THERE BECAUSE THE TOWN CENTER WHEN IN AND THEY DO NOT INCREASE FAST ENOUGH THEN WE HAVE TO WAIT. PLANNING TO BE THE DEVELOPER NOT PLANNING ON SELLING THIS OFF TO THE HIGHEST HITTER. HE IS PLANNING ON DEVELOPING HIMSELF. THE SITE PLAN IS PRESENTLY DESIGNED WITH A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PARKING THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY REQUIRED. SO CURRENTLY , IF THE MAX DEVELOPMENT MAX USE AND EVERYTHING WENT IN, THIS PARKING LOT REFLECTS THAT JUST TO POINT OUT THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN. IT WILL BE FURTHER REFINED AND ENGINEERED WHEN THEY'RE READY FOR DEVELOPMENT PERMITS WE ARE NOT REQUESTING A WAIVER FROM ANY ST. JOHNS COUNTY ORDINANCES. WE WILL MEET DUMPSTER REQUIREMENTS, LOADING REQUIREMENTS , LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUTLINED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY ORDINANCES. THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT ASHFORD MILLS PUD AND WAS THERE IN TRAFFIC ANALYSIS DONE. THAT PUD WAS APPROVED IN 2006 BASED ON A REVIEW OF THE PUD SITTING HERE LOOKING THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO TRAFFIC COUNTS AT THE TIME, THAT WAS BASED ON 2006 NUMBERS AND I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY HAS ESTIMATED THE EXPLOSION AND GROWTH THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS EXPERIENCED IN THE LAST 20 YEARS. AND I WANT TO REITERATE, THE GOAL OF THIS DEVELOPER AND THE GOAL OF THIS SITE , HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY SEVERAL YEARS AGO WITH A HOPE OF PUTTING A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON HERE. THE GOAL IS FOR A SMART GROWTH TYPE OF MIXED-USE MULTIMODAL TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, SHEARWATER IS A LARGE COMMUNITY BUILDING OUT SCHOOLS, THERE IS A NEW SCHOOL COMING OUT. THERE STILL COMMERCIAL TO BE DEVELOPED WITHIN ASHFORD MILLS PUD AND THE HOPE IS THAT THE PRIMARY OR THE MAJORITY OF THE USERS OF THIS SITE WOULD BE RESIDENTS OF SHEARWATER WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO BIKE, ROLLERBLADE, WALK, TAKE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION TO THE SITE TO HOPEFULLY ASSIST IN MINIMIZING TRAFFIC AND THE NUCLEAR TRAFFIC AND THAT'S WHY HE PICKED THE SITE HE WANTED TO BE AN ASSET TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY SO THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO DRIVE TO THE DOCTOR OR DRIVE TO A SANDWICH SHOP . THE COULD HOP ON THEIR BIKES AND COME UP TO THE CORNER AND HAVE TIME WITH FAMILY OR ACCOMPLISH WHATEVER BUSINESS . WITH THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, THIS IS NOT WITHIN THE SHEARWATER PUD AS EVERYONE KNOWS, BUT IT IS THE DEVELOPER INTENT TO

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THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT THIS SHEARWATER PARKWAY ADDRESS FOR THE CURRENT PROPERTY ON THE CORNER. THAT IS SOMETHING CONTROLLED BY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OFFICE. I DO NOT BELIEVE THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS A PREFERENCE EITHER WAY BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT SOMETHING WE CAN CONTROL. THE ADDRESS WOULD BE ASSIGNED BASED ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER. WITH THAT I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY OF THE QUESTIONS.

>> ANY FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS FROM AGENCY MEMBERS?

>> MY QUESTION IS FOR STAFF. WHEN WE CHANGED ZONING ON THE PARCEL TO THE EAST WHERE THEY BUILT A LITTLE BIT OF COMMERCIAL, CAN YOU LOOK AND SEE IF WE CHANGED LAND-USE ? AND MY SECOND QUESTION , DO WE KNOW WHO OWNS SHEARWATER PARKWAY? DOES CREEK CDD ON IT OR THE COUNTY?

>> THE CDD OWNS THE ROADWAY AND IF YOU GIVE ME A MOMENT I WILL TRY TO GET THE LAND-USE FOR WHAT I ASSUME IS TWO PARCELS.

SPOT JUST THE ONE. >> THE EASTERLY ONE.

>> I BELIEVE THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT WAS.

>> IT WAS. >> GOING FROM WHAT TO WHAT?

FROM EARL TO RESIDENCY. >> OKAY THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS? SEEING THEM BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR MOTION.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE ADOPTION OF CPA 2023- 11 SHEARWATER 210 PUD BASED ON FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> MOTION FOR DENIAL SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? MR. PETER. >> DATA, I WANT TO OFFER A COMMENT. I WAS NOT AT THE APRIL MEETING WHEN YOU FIRST HEARD THIS BUT I WENT BACK TO LOOK AT THE TAPE AND LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION TODAY THERE IS NO QUESTION THIS THE COUNTY IS GOING TO GET DEVELOPED AT SOME POINT. WE HAVE ALL BEEN OUT THERE. BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN JUSTIFICATION AT THIS POINT, THE NEED FOR THIS TODAY. CLEARLY LIKE I SAID THIS WESTERN PARCEL ALL THE WAY TO GREENBRIER DEVELOPED IN SOME FASHION. TO ME IT'S JUST THE WRONG TIME.

>> MR. MATOVINA. >> I HAVE SEVERAL THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THIS, USUALLY THIS IS SOMETHING I WOULD SUPPORT, BUT I'M STRUGGLING FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE, I BELIEVE I VOTED FOR THE PEACE TO THE EAST SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND THIS PIECE? THE DIFFERENCE IS THE INTENSITY OF USE, THIS PIECE PROPOSES MUCH GREATER INTENSITY ABUSE THAN 12,000, I BELIEVE THE EAST PIECE WAS , AND THE USE PROPOSED IN THE PIECES TO THE EAST WAS MORE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF SHORT TERM ARRANGEMENTS WHICH THIS HAS A MUCH BETTER PROPOSED RANGE OF USES. AND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE CRITERIA , BY INTRODUCING THOSE BROAD USES WITH HIGHER INTENSITY THEN YOU START WALKING THROUGH CRITERIA POLICY A .1 .2 .5 AND THERE'S A LOT OF NO WHEN I GO THROUGH HERE THE EXTENT TO WHICH POPULATION GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT TRANSFORMS AMENDMENT INCLUDING ANALYSIS APPROVED ON THE BUILT DEVELOPMENT. THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE AMENDMENT RESULTS IN POSITIVE MARKET AND ECONOMIC FISCAL BENEFITS IN THE AREA DEMONSTRATED ANALYSIS. AGAIN IF THIS WAS PROPOSED FOR MORE NEIGHBORHOOD USE I WOULD FEEL BETTER AND PROBABLY VOTE FOR IT, BUT I CAN GO THROUGH OTHER ITEMS IN THESE POLICIES AND THEIR PROPOSING TO DEVELOP SOME CLOSE TO WHAT WAS PROPOSED ACROSS THE STREET IN THE PARCEL TO THE EAST. I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

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>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WITH NON-LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

>> OKAY SORRY . >> YES VOTE IS TO DENY AND NO.

>> THANK YOU, MDM. CHAIR. OKAY. THAT MOTION PASSES , SO IT IS DENIED. WE DO NEED A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

[Staff Reports ]

>> I WILL TRY THAT. MOTION TO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF PUD 2023-2 TO SHEARWATER TO 10 PUD BASED ON 10 FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED

WITHIN STAFF REPORT. >> MOTION FOR DENIAL AND SECOND? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? MOTION TO DENY OKAY, THAT MOTION PASSES AND IT IS DENIED. THANK YOU EVERYONE. ONTO STAFF

[Agency Reports]

REPORTS. >> THANK YOU MDM. CHAIR I WILL BE BRIEF. THIS IS JUST REGARDING THE MONTH OF JULY IN MEETINGS JULY WILL BE A BUSY MONTH, AS YOU KNOW WE ADDED A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE COMPANY INTO PLAN ON JULY 11 AND WE ALSO HAVE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING ON THE 18TH. ALONG WITH THAT THE CONSULTANT DID BRIEFLY MENTIONED, THERE WILL BE AN OPEN HOUSE ON THE 23RD FOR THE COMPANY INTO PLAN AND THAT WILL BE AT THIS LOCATION. THAT'S THE ONLY REPORTS I HAVE.

>> THE MEETING ON JULY 11 IS NORMAL 1:30?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> THANK YOU, STAFF REPORTS.

>> I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE THE CONSULTANT IF HE IS WATCHING AND STAFF, THIS AREA WE JUST VOTED ON , YOU HAVE ALL THE RURAL CIVIL CULTURE STUCK BETWEEN SHEARWATER AND 210. YOU KNOW, THAT IS A TRANSITIONING AREA. I REALLY HAVE TO ENCOURAGE STAFF TO LOOK AT CHANGING THE LAND USE IN THE 20/50, IT'S A PLAN ON THE AREA WHICH MEANS WE WOULD NOT BE MAKING LAND-USE DISCUSSION TODAY BUT FOR THE PUD AND REALLY THE POOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE WITH 3 ACRES OR 5 ACRES OR WHATEVER ARE SORT OF STUCK , THERE STUCK WITH ONE USE BUT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE ANYMORE IN MY OPINION. NOT SAYING WHAT THEY ASKED FOR IS APPROPRIATE USE, BUT WHAT THEY GOT RIGHT NOW IN MY OPINION IS NOT A GOOD USE CONSIDERING THE FACT YOU OF A FOUR-LANE HIGHWAY GOING PAST THEM WITH A TOWN CENTER ACROSS

THE STREET. >> EXCELLENT POINT OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL BE ONGOING , WHAT IS THE COUNTY GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS THE BOUNDARY GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHAT WE DO WITH THE DONUT HOLE AREAS AND WE HAVE RURAL CIVIL CULTURE. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW IT ALL PLAYS OUT. THAT'S A MAJOR PART OF THE DISCUSSION GOING FORWARD.

>> ANY OTHER ? >> I WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE JEA SITUATION. THERE WAS A LITTLE CONVERSATION I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT, THERE'S A CONTRACT TO PROVIDE WATER WITH THE NORTHERN SECTOR OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE OF THE EARLY GROWTH WHEN WE FIRST STARTED. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH WAS ASKING AND STAFF INFORMED HER THAT THE CONTRACT MAY BE COMING UP FOR RENEWAL IN A FEW YEARS. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> I BELIEVE I HEARD IT WAS IN EARLY 2030S.

>> SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING ST. JOHNS COUNTY COULD TAKE BACK OVER , HOOKING INTO JACKSONVILLE WATER SUPPLY SO PERHAPS THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF INADEQUACY. I JUST WANTED TO

BRING IT UP. >> I HAD A QUESTION ON A FUTURE MEETING. IT IS RELATED TO THE MARSHLAND GOLF COURSE LOT . IN MY DISTRICT I HAVE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THEM. IS IT STILL SLATED

FOR AUGUST 1? >> YES SIR WE JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED AN UPDATE FROM THE APPLICANT , THE APPLICANT HAS TRADED HANDS AT THIS POINT SO WE HAVE THE MOST RECENT UPDATE, IT IS STILL UNDER REVIEW, THE INTENT IS TO STILL HAVE IT AT

THE AUGUST MEETING. >> SECOND QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. I KNOW THERE WAS CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ATTORNEYS ARE NOT THEY COULD BRING THIS TO US. THEY WERE WAITING FOR A RESPONSE , I DON'T KNOW IF THE

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ATTORNEYS RESPONDED. >> I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT BUT IT WILL LOOK INTO IT. WE WILL GET A RESPONSE AND GET BACK.

>> YES,

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