[Call meeting to order] [00:00:31] >> CALL, PLEASE. MIKE ADAMS. IRENE KAUFMAN. ELIZABETH GUTHRIE IS ABSENT. HOLLY SMITH IS NOT HERE AND LAUREN? >> HERE. >> I THINK WE DO HAVE A FORM. FIVE IS CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. IT SAYS HERE TO READ A CIVILITY CLAUSE. I DON'T HAVE IT. OH, HERE COMES HOLLY. JUST THE TOP PARAGRAPH. >> HOLLY SMITH . >> NOW PRESENT. SORRY, GUYS. >> ALL RIGHT. BYLAWS ARTICLE FOUR ON MEETINGS. THIS IS THE RULES OF DECORUM AND CIVILITY STATEMENT FROM THE BOARD BYLAWS. IT SHALL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CHAIR OR IN THE CHAIR'S ABSENCE THE VICE CHAIR TO PROMOTE AND PROPOSE ORDER AND DECORUM. BOARD MEMBER SHOWN NEITHER BY CONVERSATION OR OTHERWISE DELAY [General public comment for items not on the agenda - 3 minutes per speaker] OR INTERRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS OR PIECE OF THE BOARD IN ORDER TO DISTURB -- IN ORDER TO DISTURB OR REFUSE TO PAY ORDER TO THE WARDER IS SHARE. WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE. WE WILL AVOID ANY PERSONAL ATTACKS. ALL RIGHT. NOW IT IS TIME FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. THESE WILL BE ANYTHING NOT ON THE AGENDA. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I WOULD LIKE TO COME BEFORE YOU TODAY TO REQUEST THAT THIS BOARD EXTENDS A FORMAL REQUEST TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO INCREASE FUNDING FOR THE LAMP PROGRAM TO $5 MILLION ANNUALLY MOVING FORWARD. THE COUNTY IS CURRENTLY IN ITS BUDGETING PROCESS AND LAMP HAS BEEN EARMARKED AS RECEIVING $300,000, AN SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR A PROGRAM THAT HAS THIS MUCH FANTASTIC WORK TO BE DOING. THE LIST OF PRIORITY PROPERTY SUBMITTED EARLIER THIS YEAR HAS OVER 300 ACRES OF LAND TOTALING OVER $35 MILLION. LAMP CURRENTLY HAS ONLY $3.5 MILLION IN THE COFFERS AT THIS [Approval of meeting minutes from the April 9th meeting] TIME. I WILL REQUEST DURING THE DISCUSSION PORTION OF YOUR PROGRAM YOU CONSIDER EXTENDING A LETTER TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION, ASKING FOR THAT NUMBER TO BE INCREASED TO $5 MILLION. THAT FIGURE HAS BEEN PUBLICLY SUPPORTED AND I FEEL CONFIDENT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WILL FOLLOW SUIT IF THEY GET THE REQUEST. THANK YOU. [Approval of current agenda ] >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? ALL RIGHT. WE MOVED TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR APRIL 9 MEETING. A MOTION FROM ANYBODY? MR. FLOWERS? >> SECOND. IF MR. ADAMS? ALL RIGHT. NOW APPROVAL OF THE CURRENT AGENDA. BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT TIME TO ADD A DISCUSSION. SO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AS, I DON'T KNOW, CAN WE DO LIKE AN DISCUSSION ? WHY [00:05:02] DON'T WE DO THAT FIRST IF EVERYBODY IS OKAY WITH THAT. >> SO THEN YOU JUST APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED. >> A MOTION? >> I MOVED TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED. OKAY. THANK YOU. NOW CAN WE TAKE A VOTE? [Additional item] THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. IT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. HERE WE GO. LET'S DO THE DISCUSSION SINCE IT'S FRESH IN OUR MIND. >> IT IS UP TO THE CHAIR. >> I AM JUST ASKING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE OKAY. DISCUSSION ABOUT WRITING A LETTER AND HOW WE WILL GO ABOUT DOING THAT AND DO WE SUPPORT IT? THE LETTER WOULD BE I ASSUME SIMPLY A LETTER GIVING OUR SUPPORT FOR THE AMOUNT THAT WE FEEL IS APPROPRIATE AND SHE SUGGESTED $5 MILLION. I THINK THAT IS AND VERY WONDERFUL NUMBER, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PROJECTS AHEAD OF US. ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? >> I WOULD SUPPORT THE REQUEST FOR FUNDING. I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE DONE RESPECTFULLY, AND WITH NOTING THE DEVELOPMENT DEMAND THAT EXISTS WITHIN THE COUNTY. I GUESS THE QUESTION IS DO WE WANT TO SAY WHAT THE AMOUNT IS? >> I THINK IF YOU DON'T SPECIFY SOME SORT OF AMOUNT THERE IS NO NEGOTIATING. I AM ALSO IN FAVOR OF WRITING A LETTER AND REQUESTING THE INCREASED AMOUNT. >> I SUPPORT THE LETTER AS WELL. I HAVE SEEN COMMISSIONER DEAN'S SUPPORT IN ADVOCATING FOR IT. HE CERTAINLY DONE THE HEAVY LIFT OF GETTING US OFF THE GROUND AGAIN. I DO THINK WE HAVE SOME BACKING WITH THE WORK THAT WE HAVE PERFORMED AND THE OPPORTUNITIES PUT BEFORE THE BOARD TO JUSTIFY AN INCREASE BUDGET. >> MR. CHAIR, I HAVE A QUESTION. RYAN, YOU MAY WANT TO CHIME IN. DIDN'T WE JUST GET IN THE LAST YEAR SOME SORT OF AUTHORIZATION FOR MORE ANNUAL MONEY? >> YES, SIR. IT WENT FROM $500,000 TO $2 MILLION. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS, AND I THINK SHE SAID IT RIGHT, IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET A BUDGET THAT WAS MOVING FORWARD HAD IT AT $300,000. WE ARE JUST ASKING THEM TO CONSIDER PUTTING MORE MONEY TOWARDS IT. >> I GUESS I AM HEARING A LOT OF NUMBERS. I MISSED THE LAST MEETING. I APOLOGIZE. YOU SAID THE BOARD APPROVED FOR $2 MILLION PER YEAR? >> THE CURRENT YEAR WE ARE IN NOW. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO FUN FOR 25-26 . >> THE 24-25 BUDGET. >> RIGHT NOW IT ONLY SAYS $300,000. >> IT HAS TO GET -- EVERY SINGLE YEAR IT GETS DISCUSSED. IT IS NOT AN AUTOMATIC REOCCURRENCE. >> I WAS TRYING TO GET THE CHRONOLOGY IN MY HEAD. >> WE WERE APPROVED LAST YEAR FOR THE TWO. EVERY YEAR IT GOES BACK. RIGHT NOW THERE IS A PLACE FOR $350,000. >> AFTER ALL OF THAT I SUPPORT A LETTER. >> I GUESS THE NEXT QUESTION -- YES. >> JUST TO ADD, I DID AFFORD A LETTER ABOUT A MONTH AGO TO THE BOARD MEMBERS FOR THAT SAME FIGURE OF $5 MILLION RECOMMENDED. >> THANK YOU. HOW DO YOU GUYS WANT TO PROCEED? WE COULD ASK RYAN. RYAN AND I COULD WRITE A LETTER JOINTLY OR SOMEONE TO VOLUNTEER. >> I MOVE THAT WE ASK STAFF TO DRAFT A LETTER FOR OUR APPROVAL AND WE CAN SEND IT AROUND BY EMAIL. >> THAT IS A SUNSHINE LAW ISSUE. [00:10:01] >> ASK STAFF TO DRAFT A LETTER AND THEN APPROVE IT HOWEVER WE NEED TO APPROVE IT. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE RYAN HAS SOME SORT OF LANGUAGE IN A LETTER ALREADY. >> IF THE $5 MILLION IS IN THEIR IT SHOULD BE FAIRLY STREAMLINED. >> GENERALLY HOW IT WORKS IS YOU CAN GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO DRAFT A LETTER BASED ON THE DISCUSSION TODAY, I BELIEVE IT IS A RECOMMENDATION OF $5 MILLION AND HAVE IT FOR THE CHAIR SIGNATURE. THE ONLY REASON I SAY THAT IS WE DO NOT MEET AGAIN UNTIL AUGUST. TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO AUGUST, THE BUDGET HAS STARTED ROLLING DOWN THAT ROAD. GENERALLY BASED ON THIS DISCUSSION RYAN OR STAFF COULD CRAFT A LETTER FOR THE CHAIR SIGNATURE. >> OKAY. I WILL AMEND MY MOTION BASED ON OUR REQUEST FOR $5 [1. 3775 US 1 South- Moultrie Creek Property- First review] MILLION. >> AT THAT POINT IT PROBABLY WOULD BE ELIZABETH SIGNATURE, I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. >> ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S TAKE A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL OF THOSE OPPOSED TO? WE ARE GOOD. THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. NOW ITEM 1B. THIS IS OUR FIRST TO REVIEW. I AM TRYING TO THINK WHY DON'T WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION FIRST. YOUR PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY MR. CUNNINGHAM. >> WE HAVE PROPERTY REPRESENTATION HERE. MR. CUNNINGHAM CAN SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. I CAN PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE TO THE BOARD ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. IT WAS SUBMITTED IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR. IT IS THE FIRST REVIEW. THERE IS NO REVIEW OF SCORING AT THIS POINT. IT IS AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY LOCATED ON MOULTRIE CREEK. THAT MEANS THERE IS A 50 FOOT UNDISTURBED BUFFER. YOU HAVE THE SALT MARSH THERE. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THERE IS AN HISTORIC STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY. IT IS ALSO KNOWN AS MOULTRIE MANOR OR MOULTRIE POST OFFICE AT VARIOUS TIMES. IT IS ELIGIBLE FOR DESIGNATION AND IS MOST LIKELY A SIGNIFICANT CULTURAL RESOURCE. IT WAS BUILT IN 1910 EAST OF THE CURRENT LOCATION. IT WAS MOVED TO THE CURRENT LOCATION AROUND 1920. HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS WITH THE PROHIBITION ERA. AN EXAMPLE OF FRAMED VERNACULAR STYLE, STRUCTURAL SYSTEMS, IT IS ON POURED CONCRETE FOOTING FOUNDATION. IT HAS DROPPED SIDING EXTERIOR. JUST TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE STRUCTURE. THERE IS AN EXISTING PARKING AREA AND AN OPEN GRASS AREA AND TREE CANOPY SURROUNDING THE STRUCTURE. MORE NATURAL AREAS ARE TO THE SOUTH ALONG THE SLOPE TOWARD MOULTRIE CREEK. THERE IS A HIGH ARCHAEOLOGICAL MODEL DESIGNATION ON THE SITE LOCATED ALONG THE CREEK BANK. THERE IS A RECORDED BANK NEARBY. HOWEVER, THERE ARE NOT ARCHAEOLOGICAL -WISE ON THE PROPERTY. THE APPLICANT'S REP RESENTED AND STATED ON THEIR APPLICATION THE PROPERTY WOULD BE AN OUTSTANDING LOCATION FOR AN POTENTIAL PARK WOULD LIKE ACCESS TO MOULTRIE CREEK . THE PROPERTY HAS APPROXIMATELY 275 FEET OF FRONTAGE ON MOULTRIE CREEK, 300 FEET OF FRONTAGE ON U.S.-ONE, 275 FEET OF FRONTAGE ON CREEKSIDE DRIVE. THE HISTORIC BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY IS 3760 SQUARE FEET AND CURRENTLY SERVES AS THE LAW OFFICES OF JEFFREY MONROE . THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT DID REVIEW THE SITE AND STATED THE HOUSE COULD BE CONVERTED TO COUNTY OFFICES IF FOUND TO BE IN GOOD CONDITION. THEY DID SAY THE SECOND PARCEL IS SMALL AND NO RECREATIONAL AMENITIES COULD BE PROVIDED HERE. THE PARCEL DOES NOT CONNECT TO THE WATERWAY TO ALLOW FOR PUBLIC ACCESS. I BELIEVE A.COULD BE POTENTIALLY INSTALLED TO PROVIDE ACCESS IF ONE WERE TO GO THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCE PERMITTING PROCESS. THAT IS ALL I HAVE. I AM OPEN FOR ANY COMMENT. >> ANYTHING BEFORE WE ASK MR. [00:15:09] CUNNINGHAM TO SPEAK? MR. CUNNINGHAM, COULD YOU PLEASE COME UP AND LET US FIND OUT MORE? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD SAY MUCH MORE THAN HE DID. >> CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME? >> YES, I AM SORRY. CRAIG CUNNINGHAM. I AM A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER. WE HAVE THIS PROPERTY ON THE MARKET FOR APPROXIMATELY ONE YEAR. WE TOOK IT OFF. WE WERE GETTING A TON OF CALLS FROM PEOPLE WHO WORK FIVE. WE WERE CONTACTED AND THEN RYAN GAUGING THE OWNER'S INTEREST IN SELLING IT SAID YEAH, WE DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SELL. THEY ASKED A REPRESENTATIVE TO COME, HE COULDN'T BE HERE SO HE ASKED ME TO COME HERE. BY ALL APPEARANCES IT WOULD BE A GREAT LOCATION FOR A PARK. OBVIOUSLY IF YOU COULD PUT A PIER OUT TO GIVE ACCESS TO THE CREEK. THE BUILDING IS IN FAIRLY GOOD CONDITION AND PROBABLY GOING TO NEED A NEW ROOF AT SOME POINT. OTHER THAN THAT IT IS SET UP FOR OFFICES. WHAT RYAN MENTIONED EARLIER IF GREAT DESCRIPTION OF IT. I JUST WANTE TO BE HERE AS SOMEONE REPRESENTING THE OWNER FOR THE MOST PART. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN GET YOU ANSWERS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> I APPRECIATE IT. >> ARE THEY OPERATING THEIR OFFICES THEY ARE NOW? >> THEY ARE AND HAVE BEEN FOR 20+ YEARS. >> ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE, I'M WONDERING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SEEING THE LIST PRICE THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN SEEKING. I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS AN INTEREST IN SOME SORT OF PARTNERSHIP GIVEN OUR BUDGET AND THE ABILITY TO BUY SIGNIFICANT PROPERTIES TO POTENTIALLY HAVE A PORTION OF THAT GIFTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A TAX RATE ALONG WITH A CASH SALE . I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAD DISCUSSED THAT AT ALL? >> THAT HASN'T BEEN APPROACHED IN THAT MANNER. THE I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT -- I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT. THAT CAN CERTAINLY BE DISCUSSED I AM SURE WITH THE OWNER. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU ARE WELCOME. IF ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT IT ANYMORE? I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANTED TO ADD. ANYBODY ELSE? I DID NOTICE IT IS ADJACENT TO THE NORTHEAST LORNA BLEW A BOUNDARY. THIS IS AN AWFULLY SMALL PROJECT TO BRING TO THE STATE. I IMAGINE IT WILL BE VERY UNLIKELY, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. AM A FRIEND OF MINE USED TO LIVE THERE. THE SLOPE IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL. YOU GO FROM 28 FEET DOWN TO TIDE. RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS AMEX CEMETERY. IT IS A VERY BEAUTIFUL LOCATION. I THINK IF THERE ARE NO OTHER DISCUSSIONS THE NEXT MOVE IS TO DISCUSS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE. FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM DO WE WANT TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ROUND? ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? >> CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? I REALIZE IT IS ONLY AN ACRE, BUT WHAT IS THE DENSITY ABOUT? >> UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT THIS TIME. >> OKAY. >> THE ZONING IS COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. >> RIGHT. HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE LAND-USE. RES C, WHAT DOES THAT ALLOW? ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT THING WOULD BE FOR US TO DO -- [00:20:01] IF THERE IS NO MORE DISCUSSION, TO SAY YES OR NO IS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. RYAN, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> I WANTED TO SEE IF JASMINE CAN SEE IF THERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW FOR THE PUBLIC SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE. THANK YOU. >> THE DENSITY -- >> I AM SORRY. >> THE DENSITY WOULD BE SIX PER ACRE. >> THANK YOU. >> MY GENERAL SENSE IS ANY TIME YOU GOT A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT FRONTS ON A WATERWAY, CERTAINLY ALONG US-1 IN THIS LOCATION, YOU KNOW, GEOGRAPHICALLY IT IS OF INTEREST. I THINK EVEN JUST REVIEWING THE WORK ON IT I ASSUMED THERE WAS SOME SORT OF BLUFF BECAUSE OF THE SHARP FLOOD ZONE CHANGE THAT WAS THERE ALONG THE WATER. I WOULD HAVE INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY. I THINK THERE IS A VALUE TO IT. I DO THINK THAT WE WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER THE USE FOR IT AND IF THERE IS, YOU KNOW, IF IT WERE TO BE USED FOR COUNTY OFFICES OR SOME SORT OF HISTORIC LANDMARK OR SOME COMBINATION OF THAT WOULD THAT BE DESIRABLE IN ORDER TO PURSUE. >> ANY TIME YOU HAVE AN OLDER HOUSE THERE IS CONCERN BECAUSE THE COUNTY, IF IT DOES GET ACQUIRED, OBVIOUSLY THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN A HISTORIC STRUCTURE WHICH IS WONDERFUL, BUT EXPENSIVE. NOT THAT THAT IS A REASON TO NOT BUY IT, THAT WOULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE NONETHELESS. LET'S DO AN OVERALL VOTE OR DO WE DO IT ONE BY ONE? WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE IT TO THE NEXT STAGE. >> I WILL SECOND. >> BEAUTIFUL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . ANY OPPOSED? THERE WE GO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> FOR THE RECORD WHEN WE GET TO IT AT THE NEXT MEETING IF THERE COULD BE SOME COMMUNITY SUPPORT SO THAT WE COULD HERE, YOU KNOW, EITHER BETWEEN NOW AND THEN IF THEY CAN SEND AN EMAIL OR WHATEVER, BUT IF THERE WOULD BE COMMUNITY SUPPORT WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT POTENTIAL NEIGHBORS FEEL ABOUT IT AND WHAT POTENTIAL USE THERE MIGHT BE. >> I WILL PASS THAT ALONG. THANK YOU. >> SORRY TO JUMP IN. RYAN, HAVING FILLED OUT THE FORM -- WELL , I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE OF VALUE IF IT WAS COMING FOR EVALUATION FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND THE WAY THAT WE CHART THAT OUT AND THE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE EMPHASIZE THOSE THINGS JUST FROM SHORTY'S COMMENTS. >> I DID MAKE A MENTION BEFORE THE MEETING. THE NEXT STAGE IS [2. Discussion on less-than-fee-simple acquisitions via conservation easement (Part 1 of 2)] THE LAMP BOARD IN THEIR NEXT MEETING, WHICH WILL BE IN AUGUST WILL DO A SECOND ROUND OF REVIEWS TO INCLUDE THE SCORING OF THE PROPERTY. POST SCORING YOU WILL HAVE EVERYBODY HAVE THE CONSENSUS TO ADD TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS LIST. THAT WILL GO FORWARD TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR APPROVAL. >> PERFECT. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. ON TO ITEM TWO. MRS. WEST WILL BRING US UP TO DISCUSSION ON THE PROCESS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I WAS ASKED TO GIVE A PRESENTATION. APPARENTLY THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION REGARDING THE ORDINANCE CALL THAT ALLOWS FOR SIMPLE ACQUISITION THROUGH CONSERVATION EASEMENT. I AM HERE TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF PRESENTATION. FOR SOME OF YOU YOU SHOULD PROBABLY JUST MAKE SURE I DON'T MAKE ANY MISTAKES BECAUSE YOU ARE VERY FAMILIAR. FOR THE OTHERS I'LL GIVE YOU A OVERVIEW. CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, THE FLORIDA STATUTE DEFINES THEM AS A RIGHT OF INTEREST IN REAL PROPERTY FOR RETAINING LAND AREAS IN NATURAL, SCENIC OR NATURAL [00:25:07] CONDITIONS. RETAIN SUCH AREAS AS SUITABLE HABITAT FOR FISH, PLANTS AND WILDLIFE. MAINTAIN THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE SITES. OR MAINTAIN EXISTING LAND USE WHICH PROHIBITS OR LIMITS CERTAIN USES. AS YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A VERY BROAD DEFINITION AND CAN BE USED FOR PRESERVATION OF HABITAT AS WELL AS WHAT IS OFTEN DONE WITH THESE TYPES OF ACQUISITIONS, THERE IS NO FURTHER CONSTRUCTION. THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN THING THE ORDINANCE CONTEMPLATES. THERE ARE BENEFITS TO THE COUNTY. THE LAND OWNER RETAINS THEIR PROPERTY AND RETAINS OWNERSHIP. THEY COULD CONTINUE ACTIVITIES AND USES THAT ARE LOW IMPACT. THE PROJECT TYPICALLY COST LESS THAN PURCHASING PARTIALLY OUTRIGHT AND ALLOWS THE COUNTY TO CONCENTRATE DOLLARS ON PEACEABLE PROJECTS TO ACQUIRE HIGH-QUALITY PROPERTY THAT CONTRIBUTES TO COUNTY OWNED CONSERVATION LAND. YOU ALSO SEE THAT ALLOWS THEM TO CONTINUE THE USE BUT THEN HAVE A CONSERVATION EASEMENT THAT REALLY BUYS THOSE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS SO NO ONE WILL COME IN AND LATER DEVELOP THAT INTO THE HIGHEST DENSITY IN THE COUNTY. BENEFIT TO THE LANDOWNER, THEY RETAINED THE TITLE TO THE PROPERTY ALONG WITH CERTAIN NEGOTIATOR RIGHT. THEY OFTENTIMES WANT TO BE A GOOD STEWARD OF THE LAND AND PROTECT THE RESOURCES. ALSO, THERE ARE TAX ADVANTAGES BOTH ENTERAL AND STATE WITH CONSERVATION EASEMENTS AND THOSE TYPES OF INCENTIVES. THOSE ARE BENEFICIAL TO CONSERVATION EASEMENTS. THE DOCUMENT A LEGAL AGREEMENT NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND PROPERTY OWNER. THEY AGREED TO RESTRICT THE TYPE AND AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN OCCUR. THEY RUN WITH THE LAND IN PERPETUITY. THE OWNER AND THE COUNTY IDENTIFY THE RESTRICTIONS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY DURING NEGOTIATION PROCESSES. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SIMPLE THE LANDOWNER RETAINS TITLE IN THE LAND ORDER CONTINUES TO USE THE LAND ALTHOUGH CERTAIN ACTIVITIES ARE RESTRICTED OR PROHIBITED. UNLIKE THE COUNTY CONSERVATION LANDS THAT WE NORMALLY ACQUIRE THERE IS GENERALLY NO ACCESS. THAT IS ONE OF THE DOWNSIDES. YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE PUBLIC USE. >> I WILL EXPLAIN REALLY QUICKLY THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT PROPRIETARY CONSERVATION EASEMENT WHERE THE COUNTY IS PURCHASING THE EASEMENT AS OPPOSED TO A REGULATORY EASEMENT. ALL OF YOU IN THE BUSINESS ARE FAMILIAR WITH REGULATORY CONSERVATION EASEMENT. THOSE ARE THE ONES YOU HAVE TO GIVE ONE PERMITTING TO MITIGATE FOR IMPACT. THERE IS HIM A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT SPIRIT FOR PROPRIETARY THE COUNTY LOOKS FOR A SNAPSHOT OF THE EXISTING USES, STRUCTURE AND NATURAL AND DISTURBED AREAS. DURING THE ACQUISITION PROCESS IT PROVIDES INPUT TO MUTUALLY AGREE WITH THE COUNTY AFTER THE ACCURATE REFLECTION OF THE PROPERTY. IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THOSE EXISTING USES ARE. IF THERE ARE TRAIL ROLES OR THINGS LIKE THAT, IF THERE IS HUNTING ON THE PROPERTY. THERE A LOT OF THINGS WE FULLY UNDERSTAND THE CONDITION OF THE USE OF THE PROPERTY AND THAT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO PLACE UNDER EASEMENT IS GOING TO STAY THERE. THIS IS A LAUNDRY LIST OF PROHIBITED USES THAT YOU WILL FIND IN FLORIDA STATUTES. VERY COMMON IN A CE DOCUMENT. THE CONSTRUCTION IN PLACE, BILLBOARDS, THAT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION. OFTENTIMES THERE WILL ALREADY BE CONSTRUCTION ON THE SITE RATHER IT BE A BUILDING, HOMESTEAD, TRURO. OBVIOUSLY NO DUMPING, NO REMOVAL OR DUMPING OF TREES, EXCAVATION OR DREDGING. NO SURFACE USE. DETRIMENTAL ACTIVITIES TO DRAINAGE OR WATER CONSERVATION. AND THE PRESERVATION OF STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OR THE PHYSICAL APPEARANCE OF SITES. THOSE ARE NOT REQUIRED. THAT IS JUST A LIST THAT YOU WILL FIND AND THAT IS ALWAYS A GOOD PLACE TO START. WE KNOW IT IS AN EXCEPTIONAL PRACTICE. I DO NOT DO EVALUATIONS, BUT THIS IS A [00:30:04] BEFORE AND AFTER. LOOK AT THE FAIR MARKET VALUE BEFORE AN EASEMENT AND COMPARE IT AFTER AN EASEMENT DESIGNATION. THAT IS DETERMINED BY THE APPRAISAL PROCESS. IT IS HOUR WITH OR WITHOUT. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE WITH THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT THAT LIMITS THOSE USES AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CHANGE BETWEEN THOSE TWO. >> MONITORING ENFORCEMENT. GENERALLY THERE IS NO MANAGEMENT PLAN SO THE COUNTY HAS A RIGHT TO INSPECT AND MONITOR THE PROPERTY. THE PRIVATE LANDOWNER MANAGES THEIR PROPERTY CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING ACTIVITIES IF THERE IS ANY SUCH AS TIMBER PRODUCTION, SOD, CATTLE GRAZING, HUNTING OR PRIVATE INVESTIGATION CONSISTENT WITH ANY RESTRICTIONS OR PROHIBITIONS IDENTIFIED IN THE CE DOCUMENT. GENERALLY FOR A REGULATORY EASEMENT WE DO NOT GO OUT AND EXPECT FOR A YEARLY BASIS. MORE LIKELY TO REQUIRE THE NEIGHBORS TO LET US KNOW THAT THE EASEMENT ISN'T BEING VIOLATED. IN THIS INSTANCE THE COUNTY HAS PURCHASED THIS RIGHT AND WE WILL INSPECT AND MAKE SURE AND YEARLY BASIS IT IS CONTINUING TO BE MAINTAINED AS IT SHOULD. THAT IS IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. >> ONE OF THE BONES OF CONTENTION AT LEAST AT THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT LEVEL HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND CONTINUES TO BE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH A CE TO BE RELEASED. DOES THE COUNTY CURRENTLY HAVE ANY ORDINANCES OR OTHER REGULATIONS ON WINTER UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES? IF WE DO NOT HAVE AN ORDINANCE WITH REGARD TO THAT. THIS PRESENTATION SPARKS GOOD CONVERSATION BETWEEN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION IN OUR REAL ESTATE DIVISION IN THAT WE HAVE NOT SOUGHT TO PURCHASE EASEMENTS. WE DO NOT HAVE A LONG LIST OF PROPRIETARY LEE HELD EASEMENT. TO MR. FLOWERS, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I USED TO WORK IN THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THE EASEMENTS TO SAY IN PERPETUITY. HOW THAT IS INTERPRETED IS DIFFERENT. WE WOULD HOLD SO THAT, THAT IT IS IN PERPETUITY, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT IS BEING PURCHASED WITH LAND ACQUISITION DOLLARS. >> ALSO, STAFF WOULD WRITE THE BASELINE DOCUMENTATION REPORT AS WELL? >> NEW PROCESS FOR THE COUNTY, BUT I THINK CERTAINLY WE WOULD NEED THE BASELINE DETERMINATION REPORT. IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW EVERYTHING HAPPENING ON THAT PROPERTY. IF YOU GO AND IT IS NOT HUNTING SEASON AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT IS IN THEIR TRAIL ROLES OR HUNT CAMS OR STRUCTURES BEING PLACED DOWN THERE. OBVIOUSLY WE CAN PROHIBIT THE BASIC STUFF, BUT GENERALLY IT SAYS UNLESS OTHERWISE PROHIBITED OR RESTRICTED. IF IT IS AN ONGOING USE OR ACTIVITY WE NEED TO BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT. >> I HAVE DELL OR BEEN INVOLVED IN CONSERVATION, WE BOTH WORKED AT THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, WERE PUBLIC USE IS ALLOWED. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DECIDED UPON DURING THE PROCESS OF NEGOTIATION. SOMETIMES THERE HAPPENED TO BE A REALLY GOOD ROAD THAT CAN BE USED AS A PUBLIC ACCESS ROAD WITH LIMITED USE OR WHATNOT. BUT GENERALLY, NO. >> GENERALLY NOT, BUT IT DOES DEPEND. I'VE SEEN SOMEWHERE THERE HAVE BEEN FOR EDUCATION PURCHASES -- PURPOSES BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY ARE THEY HAVE ABOUT LIMITED ACTIVITY. IT IS TRULY A NEGOTIATED DOCUMENT. YOU HAVE TO BE VERY AWAE OF WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO GET OUT OF IT WENT PURCHASING THAT LAND RIGHT. >> SOME OF OUR CONFUSION AND WHILE WE ASKED FOR THIS PRESENTATION, THANK YOU, IS THIS IN OUR PURVIEW TO IDENTIFY AND MOVE FORWARD WITH POTENTIAL CONSERVATION EASEMENT PROPERTIES? >> YES. SPECIFICALLY STATED IN THE CODE THAT YOU CAN PURCHASE A LESS THAN FEE. CONSERVATION EASEMENT IS A VERY BROAD TERM. [00:35:04] IF YOU -- THE OWNER SAID I'M HAPPY TO SELL YOU MY DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, YOU COULD DO THAT. WE WOULD USE THIS EASEMENT DOCUMENT FOR THOSE. IT IS WRITTEN INTO THE COLD. YOU DO HAVE THAT. >> INTO THE COLD THAT OVERSEES THIS BOARD? >> CORRECT. >> I CAN SEE ONE TRACK WHERE WE MIGHT RECOMMEND TO STAFF IN REAL ESTATE TO CONSIDER THE POTENTIAL ACQUISITION MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CE. I COULD ALSO SEE WHERE THERE ARE NEGOTIATIONS WITH REAL ESTATE THAT COULD COME UP AFTER THE FACT. WELL, NOT AFTER THE FACT BUT IN NEGOTIATIONS WHERE SOMEONE SAID WHAT ABOUT POTENTIAL CE'S ? MOSTLY WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THIS BOARD, I WOULD THINK. >> IT WOULD BE. I'VE SEEN IT WORK A COUPLE OF WAYS. I HAVE SEEN THEM BASICALLY PURCHASE A CE. I HAVE ALSO SEEN A PURCHASE-SALE AGREEMENT WITH AN OPTION RIGHT IN THE CE IS PLACED FIRST IN THE OPTION TO PURCHASE DOWN THE ROAD. PEOPLE NECESSARILY WANT TO HAVE THE PROPERTY SOLD, THEY ARE WILLING TO HAVE THE CE PLACE AND THEN THEY WILL GO AHEAD AND SELL. THERE ARE A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS. IT IS A DIFFERENT PROCESS. IT WOULD TAKE SOME THOUGHT ON HOW WE GO ABOUT THAT. IF SOMEONE SAID I DON'T WANT TO SELL THIS LAND, THIS IS REALLY GREAT LAND I DON'T WANT TO DEVELOP IT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO SEND YOU THOSE RIGHTS. I DEFINITELY THINK IT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD CONSIDER. >> YOU CAN ALWAYS DO RIGHTS OF FIRST REFUSAL, ALL THOSE THINGS WHICH ARE WONDERFUL TOOLS. >> I KNOW THAT WE DO NOT PURCHASE ANYTHING 10% OVER APPRAISAL OR WHATEVER. WE ARE KIND OF IN THE APPRAISAL ZONE. THIS WOULD APPRAISE DIFFERENTLY THAN A HIGHEST AND BEST USE. THERE IS REALLY NO WAY OF KNOWING WHEN IT COMES TO US AHEAD OF TIME AT AN OFFER WHAT THAT APPRAISAL IS GOING TO BE? >> CORRECT. EVEN THOUGH YOU GET PRICES HERE OFTEN TIMES THE PRICES ARE SOMETHING THAT, AFTER YOU HAVE MADE YOUR LIST. REALLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE VALUE, NOT SO MUCH MONETARY, BUT THE VALUE OF THE LAND ITSELF. IT WOULD APPRAISE DIFFERENTLY. I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. THEY DO NOT LOOK AT VALUE OF PROPERTIES. WE WENT THROUGH AN EXERCISE IN GENERAL YOU LOOK AT THE FAIR MARKET VALUE OF THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE AND THEN FIGURE OUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WITH AND WITHOUT AN CE. WE USE OUTSIDE APPRAISALS. THAT IS SOMETHING WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO GET AN EXPERT IN THAT REGARD. >> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> I HAVE A QUESTION. HAVING BEEN EXPOSED TO THE RULE AND FAMILY LANDS PROGRAMS WITH THE STATE THE COUNTY PROCESS IS SIMILAR TO THE RURAL AND FAMILY LANDS PROGRAM? >> I WOULD HAVE TO SAY WE DON'T HAVE A PROCESS. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T DONE BUT REALLY TO DO THROUGH THE LAMP PROGRAM -- WILLING TO DO THROUGH THE LAMP PROGRAM. I AM NOT COMPLETELY FAMILIAR. I DO KNOW IT ALLOWS THEM TO CONTINUE ACTIVITIES THEY HAVE INHERENTLY DONE FOR YEARS AND TO JUST USE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES WITH REGARD TO HOW THEY COMPLETE THOSE ACTIVITIES. IT WOULD BE SOMEWHAT SIMILAR. >> I GUESS I'M JUST ASKING FOR THESE POTENTIAL PARCELS THAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN. IF THE COUNTY CANNOT DO AN CE WHAT WE USHER IT THROUGH THE RURAL AND FAMILY LANDS PROCESS? WOULD THAT BE AN RECOMMENDATION? I KNOW THAT WE ARE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT PARTNERING AND THINGS LIKE THIS. IF THEY HAVEN'T ALWAYS BEEN FUNDED RECENTLY. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING. IF WE DECIDED NO ON HOUR PIECE OF PROPERTY I AM SURE THAT WE COULD RECOMMEND TO THAT SELLER THAT THEY LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS. WAYNE, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? MIKE, ARE YOU DONE? SORRY. >> THAT'S FINE. >> TO WHAT EXTENT DO WE WANT TO SPEND TIME AND ENERGY IN DEVELOPING POLICY OR GUIDELINES, I GUESS, FOR OUR PURPOSES AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES WILL WE CONSIDER THEM? WOULD IT BE BETTER TO ALLOW PROPOSALS TO COME AND DEVELOP POLICY THROUGH REVIEWING PROPOSALS? TAKING [00:40:05] ACTION SO THAT WE ARE NOT TOO RIGID OR NOT RIGID ENOUGH, I GUESS. >> I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE COUNTY MOVE FORWARD DETERMINING THEIR INTERNAL PROCESS. EVEN IF THIS GROUP OR THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITHIN THIS GROUP THERE IS SOME OTHER TIMES THERE HAVE BEEN POTENTIAL CE'S THAT WOULD'VE BEEN BENEFICIAL. WHO HOLDS THE CE? I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD THE COUNTY IN THE PAST WOULD NOT HOLD THAT CONSERVATION EASEMENT. IF THEY WERE WILLING TO DO THAT I THINK IT WILL BE MORE POSSIBILITIES. >> I AM NOT AWARE THAT ACCOUNT WILL NOT HOLD AN CONSERVATION EASEMENT. THAT IS IN A PAST PRACTICE I'M HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THAT. I THINK THE PURPOSE FOR TODAY IS TO INDICATE WHAT IT WAS INTENDED REGARD TO -- IN REGARD TO LAMP. IT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR. YOU WILL GET A RECOMMENDATION. I DO NOT THINK YOU ARE NECESSARILY GOING OUT AND FINDING LESS THAN FEE. IF SOMEONE CAME WITH YOU I THINK WE WOULD DO IT VERY SIMILAR TO HOW IT IS OUTLINED WITH THE BASELINE DETERMINATION REPORT. I THINK IF IT IS A POLICY IT IS UNLIKELY THAT WE SAID YOU COULD PURCHASE LESS THAN FEE, BUT WE WON'T TAKE LESS THAN FEE . THAT IS A QUANDARY. WE ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH OTHER AGENCIES WITH REGARD TO THAT THAT THEY WOULD HOLD THE CE AND THE COUNTY WOULD RECEIVE A THIRD-PARTY RIGHT OF ENFORCEMENT. WE WOULD ALWAYS WANT THAT. EVEN IF WE PURCHASED IT IN ANOTHER NONPROFIT ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP HELP AT CE WOULD STILL RETAIN THE RIGHT TO ENFORCE THROUGH MONITORING INSPECTION. >> THAT IS WHAT SPARKED THE CONVERSATION ORIGINALLY, THE PROPOSAL OF THE CE ON THE PROPERTY. WAS IT US-1 AND 295? I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY. SORRY. I THINK TO GET BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING IN MY MIND TO KEEP IN OUR BACK POCKET IN CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT IN GENERAL I THINK THAT WE WOULD WANT MORE CONTROL THAN THAT FOR VARIOUS PARCELS. >> I THINK IT WOULD END UP BEING A SEPARATE PATHS ON EVALUATION FOR OUR PART. THE SCORING WOULD END UP MUCH DIFFERENTLY AS WE SAW. IF IT WERE SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO PURSUE I THINK, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE YOU COULD ADD POINTS AND IT WILL COST LESS MONEY AND ÚTH WOULD LOSE POINTS ON PUBLIC ACCESS. I THINK THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A DIFFERENT EVALUATION TOOL FOR US. >> OR SEPARATE TRACK. >> CORRECT. >> RYAN, ANYTHING TO ADD? >> WHAT SPARKED THIS WHOLE THING IS WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR EVALUATION PROCESS OR NOT. OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN STILL USE THE SAME SCORING SHEET WITH EVERYTHING OCA HAS PROVIDED WITH THE PRESENTATION OR WE COULD SIMPLY CREATE A WHOLE NEW EVALUATION FORM FOR THE LESS THAN FEE SIMPLE ACQUISITION AS WELL, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SEE . KEEP IN MIND THE CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY AS WELL. THE MATHIS PROPERTY, I WITHHELD THAT ONE FOR TODAY. THE NEXT ITEM IS TO GO OVER THE CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLANS. WE WOULD NEED SOME DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AS WELL, DEPENDING ON THE DIRECTIONAL -- DIRECTION OF THE BOARD. >> I AM THINKING ABOUT AND IS DANGEROUS, BUT I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE TWO TRACKS. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO BEST DESCRIBE THAT, I THINK THAT YOU WOULD USE THE SAME SCORING MATRIX. YOU WOULD COMPARE CE'S TO CE'S IN TERMS OF SCORING AND FULL FEE WITH FULL FEE . IN ALMOST EVERY CASE THAT I COULD EVER IMAGINE SOMETHING BEING PROPOSED FOR AN [3. Finalization of conceptual management plans for Shores Blvd, Bishop Estates Rd, 5960 Don Manuel Rd and 8805 A1A South] CE IS CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO SCORE VERY HIGH. PERSONALLY I DON'T THINK THAT IS NECESSARY DEVELOPING A NEW METRICS. THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION ONLY. I GUESS THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY VOTE OR ANY FURTHER MOVEMENTS. THANK YOU MS. WEST FOR YOUR [00:45:11] WONDERFUL PRESENTATION. FOOD FOR THOUGHT. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE FINALIZATION OF CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLANS. RYAN, YOU ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO WALK ME THROUGH THIS. ELIZABETH OBVIOUSLY DID MOST OF THIS WORKING WITH HALLIE. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THIS? >> SURE. THIS ITEM IS FOR THE SHORES BOULEVARD BUFFER. IT IS WHAT COMMISSIONER DEAN WOULD LIKE TO RENAME THIS. THE BAILEY RANCH AND 5960 DON MANWELL. AND FINALLY A 1A SOUTH. PROPERTIES 1-4 WILL BE LOOKED AT TODAY FOR CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT. NUMBER FIVE POCKET VIOLENT, AS YOU RECALL IT WAS ACTUALLY STATED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT IS UNDER CONTRACT BY ANOTHER ENTITY. THAT IS WHY THAT WAS LEFT OFF THE LIST FOR TODAY. WE CAN START WITH PROPERTY NUMBER ONE AND STAFF BASICALLY CREATED OR DRAFTED THIS FROM THE PROPERTY DATASHEETS, THE CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLAN. BASICALLY WE ARE LOOKING FOR A VOTE TO FINALIZE THE PLAN ALONG WITH ANY UPDATES IF YOU HAVE ANY. KEEP IN MIND THESE ARE LIVING DOCUMENTS. OBVIOUSLY A DOCUMENT WILL HAVE TO BE RECOMMENDED TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL PRIOR TO ACQUISITION. THESE DOCUMENTS ARE AMENDED FROM TIME TO TIME EVEN POSTACQUISITION. AGAIN, THEY ARE LIVING DOCUMENTS. WE CAN START WITH THE SHORES FOR MATANZAS ESTUARY BUFFER PROPERTY . THIS ONE WAS -- AGAIN, I COMPILE ALL OF THE CONCEPTS FROM YOUR LAST MEETING IN APRIL. THE CHAIR COMPILED ALL OF THOSE AND SUBMITTED IT TO ME. I BASICALLY FILLED OUT THOSE AREAS IN THE PLAN. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONS OR MODIFICATIONS, WE CAN LET THOSE BE KNOWN NOW. NOTHING TO ADD, CONTINUE, PLEASE, SIR. >> THE NEXT PROPERTY IS THE BAILEY RANCH. AGAIN, THIS IS ON BISHOP ESTATES ROAD AND ST. JOHN'S, THE NORTHWEST SECTION OF THE COUNTY.HERE IS THE UPDATED AERIAL. THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS. WE HAD A PULMONARY DISCUSSION ON THE MANAGEMENT PLAN. THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT TO ADD TO THE CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLAN. THERE ARE QUITE A FEW EXISTING ACTIVITIES ON THE SITE, ESPECIALLY THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE PROPERTY WHERE IT IS A WORKING RANCH WHERE YOU HAVE EQUESTRIAN USAGE AND SO ALL OF THOSE WERE CONSIDERED AND ADDED TO THE CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLAN. IN ADDITION, AT THE END OF MAY, MAY 31, WE HAD AN INTERNAL STAFF MEETING TO DISCUSS THESE CONCEPTS BECAUSE THEY ARE QUITE INVOLVED. AS IT PROCEEDS TO EVOLVE OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY ACQUISITION AND OBVIOUSLY THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE A LARGE PART OF, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING THE EXISTING STRUCTURES, ON-SITE ACTIVITIES AND SO FORTH. WE HAD A PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION WITH STAFF AND THAT IS AN ONGOING THING. ALL OF THAT INFORMATION WAS INCLUDED IN THE CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT I SUBMITTED TO YOU WITH THE AGENDA. BASED ON THE 531 MEETING WITH PARKS AND RECREATION WE DID HAVE SUGGESTED LANGUAGE TO ADD, WHICH I CAN CONTINUE TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS. I CAN EVEN READ SOME OF THOSE IF YOU WOULD LIKE. IF WE GO TO THE PURPOSE AND GOALS OF ACQUISITION, PARKS AND RECREATION WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE TEXT TO STATE ACQUIRING LAND THROUGH THE LAND ACQUISITION MANAGEMENT PROGRAM COULD FACILITATE THE PRESERVATION OF OPEN SPACE, TREES AND DIVERSE PASSIVE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND AMENITIES. THE PARCELS COULD SERVE AS GREEN SPACES OFFERING ACCESS TO WATERWAYS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES. ADDITIONALLY THE ACQUISITION WOULD ENABLE THE COUNTY TO MAINTAIN WORKING RANCH LANDS FOR VARIOUS PASSIVE [00:50:04] RECREATIONAL USES. ACQUIRING THE LAND PRESENT THE COUNTY WITH OPPORTUNITIES TO REPURPOSE EXISTING STRUCTURES ON THE SITE, UTILIZING EXISTING STRUCTURES TO PROMOTE ENVIRONMENTAL AWARENESS AND EDUCATION. THAT WAS HOW PARKS AND RECREATION CAME UP WITH THE ADDITIONAL TEXT. >> IN ADDITION THE NEXT SECTION DOWN: MANAGING OBJECTIVES AND METHODS, THE NEW TAX WOULD BE ENSURING THE UPKEEP AND RENOVATION OF STRUCTURES FOR EDUCATIONAL AND RECREATIONAL PURPOSES. THE COUNTY AIMS TO PROMOTE PUBLIC ACCESS FOSTERING A RANGE OF EDUCATIONAL AND RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. PROGRAMMING AND FACILITY DEVELOPMENT WILL FOCUS ON DEPENDABILITY, GUIDING EFFORTS TOWARD ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE -- ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE PRACTICES THAT IS. THAT WAS MODIFIED. EVERYTHING ELSE BASICALLY REMAINED THE SAME. >> BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY? CAN WE VOTE ON ALL FOUR? >> IT IS AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CHAIR ON HOW YOU WANT TO DO THAT. WE ARE JUST PRESENTING THESE FOR THE FIRST TIME. >> THIS IS THE DISCUSSION ON THE FINALIZATION. THEY HAD A INITIAL DISCUSSION LAST MEETING. THIS IS JUST CHECKING TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY UPDATES OR MODIFICATIONS. >> VOTE TODAY WILL BE TO FINALIZE THE PLANS AS PRESENTED TODAY? >> CORRECT. >> IT IS THAT YOU ARE DISCRETION, SIR. >> RYAN, PLEASE CONTINUE THEN. THANKS. >> THAT SUMS IT UP FOR THE BAILEY RANCH PROPERTY. WE HAD QUITE A LENGTHY CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. AGAIN, THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS ON THAT PROPERTY. THE NEXT ITEM OR PROPERTY THREE IS THE DON MANUEL ROAD PROPERTY IN THE ELKTON AREA, JUST NORTH OF HASTINGS AND 207. THIS WAS DISCUSSED IN THE MERRILY -- AND I PRESENTED THE PLAN TO THE PLANT BOARD. IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONS TO THAT THAT THOSE BE KNOWN NOW. >> I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS ACTUALLY A SMALL PIECE ADJACENT TO A VERY LARGE CONSERVATION AREA MANAGED BY THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. I WONDER HOW THE COUNTY WOULD FEEL ABOUT EITHER THE -- EITHER LEASING IT AS PART OF A LARGER PROPERTY WHICH MAKES CONTINUITY AND MAKES SENSE OR EVEN PERHAPS GIVING IT TO THEM. IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT JUST MAKES SENSE. IT DOESN'T MAKE AS MUCH SENSE FOR ANYONE FROM THE COUNTY TO HAVE TO GO OUT. YOU CAN GET TO THIS RELATIVELY EASILY, BUT TO MAKE SPECIAL TRIPS TO GET TO THIS VERY SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY. NOT THAT IT IS NOT WORTH BUYING. THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM SAYING. THAT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION THAT LEVEL AND ELEVATED. I THINK THAT WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE MORE OF THESE THINGS MOVE ON. WE ARE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THAT WITH THE SHORES -- EXCUSE ME, WITH THE MATANZAS ESTUARY BUFFER. I THINK THAT WILL BE MANAGED AS PART OF THE MOSES CREEK CONSERVATION AREA. MY POINT IS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BRING UP NOW? A RECOMMENDATION OR SUGGESTION FROM OUR BOARD THAT THAT WOULD BE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED, BUT ULTIMATELY THE DECISION IS UP TO THE COMMISSION CORRECT? >> CORRECT. AT THIS POINT, YES. IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD AS FAR AS THE CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLAN. AS WE HAVE ADDITIONALLY DISCUSSED WITH THIS PROPERTY IT IS MOSTLY WET. THERE IS NOT A LOT OF MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVES OTHER THAN SPOT CHECKING FOR INVASIVE SPECIES AND THAT SORT OF THING. WHERE IT IS LOCATED IS OFF THE WESTERN EDGE OF DON MANUEL ROAD. AGAIN, STAFF WILL DO AN ANNUAL INSPECTION MOST LIKELY ON THIS ONE TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY TRESPASSING ISSUES OR THAT SORT OF THING. THE LIST PRICE WAS RELATIVELY LOW. I WOULD [00:55:01] ASSUME IT WILL BE IN THE COFFERS FOR THE COUNTY TO ACQUIRE IT FAIRLY SOON. I BELIEVE IT IS FAIRLY FAR ALONG IN THE PROCESS ALREADY. >> PERHAPS ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES FOR COOPERATIVE MANAGEMENT. >> THAT IS WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE PUT IN THE CONCEPTION MANAGEMENT PLAN OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO WORD IT. >> WHILE WE MAKE THAT MODIFICATION WE CAN DO THAT WITH THE OTHER PIECES WELL. >> YOU PROBABLY WANT TO ADD THAT AS WELL TO THE MATANZAS ESTUARY BUFFER . >> I BELIEVE THAT I STATED THAT WE HAVE INITIALLY SPOKEN WITH THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT TO SAY THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO ASSISTING THE COUNTY IN MANAGING THAT PROPERTY AS WELL. WHAT WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN IS IF THERE ARE STATE DOLLARS INVOLVED THERE ARE FLORIDA FOREVER DOLLARS, WHICH THERE VERY WELL COULD BE BEFORE THE STATE WOULD SPEND A PENNY. THERE HAS TO BE A MANAGER NAMED. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SAY PUBLICLY, I DON'T KNOW THAT I SENT IT LAST TIME IS IF THE STATE IS INVOLVED THEY WILL NOT SHARE TITLE WITH A LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. THAT WILL MEAN THE COUNTY IS PUTTING IN DOLLARS THAT THEY WOULD NO LONGER HAVE. >> THAT DEPENDS ON THE STATE PROGRAM. IF IT IS FTC THEY DO. >> IF IT IS FLORIDA FOREVER, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. >> PROCEED, RYAN. THANK YOU. FINALLY WE HAVE THE A1 A SOUTH PROPERTY AGAIN CURRENTLY IN NEGOTIATIONS AND DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS WITH THE STATE. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE AS WELL LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF A1 A SOUTH AND THE MATANZAS BRIDGE. IF THERE IS ANYTHING TO MODIFY WITH THIS ONE NOW WOULD BE THE TIME. I SEE NO COMMENTS. ANYTHING ELSE, RYAN? >> THAT IS IT FOR THIS ITEM FOR ME. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? BY THE WAY, MS. WEST, I REALIZED THAT I FORGOT THE SPEAKER CARD ON ITEM TWO. CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT ONCE WE ARE DONE WITH ITEM THREE? >> SURE. THEY CAN DO REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENT. IT WAS A PRESENTATION. NORMALLY THERE IS NO ACTION. IT IS AT YOUR DISCRETION. >> ALL RIGHT. MOTION? I GUESS I AM MAKING THE MOTION. ANYONE HAVE ONE? >> I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONCEPTUAL PLANS AS AMENDED HERE TODAY. >> I WILL SECOND. >> SECONDED BY FLOWERS AND THEN BY ADAMS. THANK YOU ALL VERY [Staff Reports] MUCH. >> WE JUST NEED A VOTE. >> THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT CLARIFICATION. SO IT IS TIME TO VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ARE YOU GOOD, RYAN? >> NEXT WILL BE THE STAFF REPORT. THE FIRST ITEM HERE IS THE CURRENT LAMP BUDGET. WE DO HAVE A SLIDE FOR THAT. THE BALANCE AS OF JUNE 2024 IS $3,316,629 ADDITIONALLY AS WE HAVE SAID IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO [01:00:05] SEEK AVAILABLE PROPERTIES AND CONTACT THE SELLERS TO APPLY TO THIS PROGRAM . MAKING SURE THAT THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE LAMP ORDINATES. STAFF AS WELL AS THE LAMP BOARD MEMBERS SEEK AND SUBMIT STATE AND FEDERAL GRANT APPLICATIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR BOARD MEMBERS TO ALLOW AND SUBMIT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY AND THE STAFF. WE ARE WORKING BEHIND THE SCENE TO TRY TO FIND THOSE ACTIVITIES . SPECIFIC TO THE SHORES BOULEVARD AND MATANZAS ESTUARY BUFFER AND BISHOP ESTATE APPLICATION. STAFF WILL WORK THROUGH THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. EVERYTHING IS OKAY WITH THAT. OF COURSE THERE IS ALWAYS THE GUARANTEE OF RECEIVING THESE AWARDS WITH THE SHORES BOULEVARD AND THE MATANZAS ESTUARY BUFFER ACCOUNT HAS ALREADY SET ASIDE $1 MILLION EARMARK FOR THAT TO USE THAT TO MATCH. WE TALKED ABOUT THE DEP AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH THE RESILIENCY OFFICE. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE FTC PROGRAM AS WELL AS THE SEMINAL PAC. THERE ARE A MULTITUDE OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR INCREASING THE LAMP AVAILABILITY TO MORE FUNDING TO MAKE THESE ACQUISITIONS HAPPEN. THAT IS IT FOR STAFF REPORTS UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. THE >> THE COUNTY DID GET INVITED TO GO FOR THE SECOND ROUND OF N.O.A.A. FUNDING. I GUESS THAT [2. Discussion on less-than-fee-simple acquisitions via conservation easement (Part 2 of 2)] JUST HAPPENED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. THAT IS ANOTHER POTENTIAL FOR FEDERAL DOLLARS THROUGH THE -- WHAT IS IT? THE BIL. IT'S ABOUT A FEDERAL ACRONYMS THAT I WILL TRY TO GET IN. >> THERE WAS HOUR SPEAKER THAT I OVERLOOKED. >> WHEN JAMIE WORKED FOR ME HE OVERLOOKED ME ALL THE TIME. IT'S NOTHING UNUSUAL. I AM THE DIRECTOR FOR THE LAND TRUST. I'M HERE WITH JUDGE MATHIS. I DID HAVE GENERAL COMMENTS. MAYBE TO HELP YOU MAKE YOUR DECISIONS. MRS. WEST GAVE YOU A GREAT OVERVIEW. I APPRECIATED THE FRAMING TO START WITH THE STATUE. YOU HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE STATUE. THE COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT I HAVE I WANT TO FRAME THEM BY SAYING EASEMENTS ARE DESIGNED TO BE FLEXIBLE AND TAILOR TO THE LANDOWNER, THE PROPERTY AND THE PROGRAM DOING THE BUYING. POINT NUMBER ONE IN TERMS OF YOUR EVALUATION TOOL ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID 20 SOMETHING YEARS AGO IS WE HAD THE VERY SAME PROBLEM. SOMEONE BROUGHT US A CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND OUR TOOL DIDN'T REALLY ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM. ALACHUA COUNTY, WE HAD A WORKSHOP WITH THE COMMITTEE BEFORE ANY PROPERTY WAS EVALUATED. WE TOOK THE BEST PROPERTY THAT WE COULD FIND, THE STATE PARK PRESERVE, WE SCORED IT. WE GOT A THEORETICAL MAXIMUM SCORE SETTING THE HIGH LEVEL MARK FOR ANYTHING COMING FROM ANYWHERE ELSE. IT GAVE US A FRAME OF REFERENCE. WE DID THE SAME THING FOR EASEMENT. KNOWING THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO GET FULL CONTROL. THAT GAVE US AN HIGH LEVEL MARK FOR CONSERVATION EASEMENTS. WE USE THE SAME SCHOOL. WE CALIBRATED. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU COULD DO THAT ALSO CANNOT CHANGE YOUR TOOL. THE TOOL IS SUPPOSED TO GET YOU THE PORTFOLIO YOU WANT. >> CONSERVATION EASEMENTS TO HAVE A MANAGEMENT PLAN BUT THEY ARE NOT LIKE THE PLANS RYAN AND THE STAFF PUT TOGETHER. REMEMBER, THE EASEMENT IS THE WHAT AND THE MANAGEMENT PLAN IS THE HOW. THERE ARE VERY FEW AFFIRMATIVE ACTIONS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT USED TO BURNING AND DOING THOSE THINGS THAT YOU [01:05:01] WOULD DO WITH A THE SIMPLE APPLICATION. WHAT THE MANAGEMENT PLAN DOES IS VERY STRIPPED-DOWN AND BASICALLY ASSIST THE LANDOWNER HOW TO GO ABOUT DOING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE HIM TO DO. WE WOULD SUGGEST YOU PUT THAT IN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN AND YOU COME BACK TO REVISIT. IT IS VERY USER-FRIENDLY. >> IF THE IRS HAD ANY ROLE TO PLAY IN THE CE IN TERMS OF THE DONATION YOU HAVE THE BUILT IN THIRD-PARTY. YOU CANNOT EXTINGUISH THAT AND GET THOSE RIGHTS BACK TO THE FEE OWNER. YOU CAN'T JUST GIVE THE PROPERTY BACK IF THE BENEFIT WAS REALIZED. YOU COULD HAVE A THIRD-PARTY RIGHT OF ENFORCEMENT. YOU CAN HAVE A REGISTRY OF PUBLIC PROTECTED PLACES. THIS IS ANOTHER REFERENDUM THE SENSE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED FOR A PUBLIC PURCHASE. WE PUT A DOCUMENT TOGETHER AND THE COMMISSION VOTED. IF ANYTHING IS CHANGED YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE VOTERS AND GET THAT APPROVED. THAT WAS ABOUT AS PERMANENT AS YOU CAN MAKE THE EASEMENT IN A GOVERNMENT SETTING. EITHER PARTY CAN PETITION TO TERMINATE THE DOCUMENT. THAT IS IN THE PRESS A LOT LATELY. >> THE BASELINE DOCUMENTATION REPORT IS USUALLY A PART OF THE ACQUISITION PROCESS. THAT IS WHAT A JUDGE WOULD GO TO TO SEE WHAT THE PICTURE IN TIME WHEN YOU GOT THE PROPERTY, WHAT DID THE PROPERTY LOOK LIKE. THAT IS A REFERENCE DOCUMENT IF SOMETHING HAS CHANGED. PUBLIC USE IS A TRICKY ONE. VERY RARE TO HAVE PUBLIC USE ON A CONSERVATION EASEMENT FOR THE LIABILITIES THAT WERE RAISED. IT IS A POLICY QUESTION. IF YOUR REFERENDUM SPECIFICALLY SAID EVERY ACQUISITION SHOULD HAVE PUBLIC USE HAVE TO HAVE SOME FORM ON EVERY DEAL AND THAT IS AWFULLY HARD TO GET. I THINK AS MS. WEST POINTED OUT YOU CAN DO SPECIAL OPPORTUNITY HUNTS . A COUPLE OF TIMES PER YEAR YOU ABIDE IN WOUNDED VETERANS, WOMEN AND CHILDREN TO GIVE THEM THAT ACCESS. SOMETIMES THAT IS ENOUGH TO CLIMB THE BAR OF POLICY. IT IS A TOUGH ONE. IF IT IS YES OR NO EVERY TIME YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO VERY MANY. I THINK YOU LOSE A GREAT TOOL IN YOUR TOOLBOX. ONE WAY AROUND THAT, I THINK JB MENTIONED THIS ABOUT HAVING THE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL TO PURCHASE THE FEE. IF IT IS THE KIND OF PROPERTY YOU REALLY WANT IT BUT ALL YET WITH THE ABILITY TO PURCHASE AN EASEMENT YOU CAN PURCHASE THE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL SO THAT WHEN THAT LANDOWNER CHANGES YOU CAN STEP IN AND SAY I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN OFFER AND MAKE YOUR BEST OFFER. AND AS POINTED OUT THE EVALUATION DEPENDS ON THE BEFORE AND AFTER. THE VALUES, THE HIGHEST AND BEST WHEN I SAY WHAT AM I GOING TO GET FOR THIS? IT DEPENDS ON YOUR LOCATION AND THE RIGHTS THAT YOU ARE GIVING UP. IF THERE IS GREAT DEMAND BECAUSE OF YOUR LOCATION THEN THEY ARE WORTH MORE. IT IS THE STICKS IN THE BUNDLE ANALOGY. THEY ARE A BIGGER PART OF THE PROJECT. IT IS TRUE. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A CE IN HASTINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A MUCH DIFFERENT PERCENTAGE. OUT IN HASTINGS WERE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE IS STILL AGRICULTURE YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GIVING UP 50%-60%. IT DEPENDS ON LOCATION AND DEMAND. >> YOU REALLY NEED A GOOD LANDOWNER. REMEMBER, YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO REALLY WANTS TO DO THE RIGHT THING NOW, THE GENERATIONS CHANGE IN LAND OWNERS CAN SELL THE PROPERTY. THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME INTENT. THE DIDN'T GET THE CHECK. THAT IS WHEN ENFORCEMENT ACTION START. YOU HAVE TO GO INTO AN CONSERVATION EASEMENT THINKING ABOUT HOW TO DRAFT THIS DOCUMENT. NOT WITH THIS LANDOWNER, BUT THE NEXT. >> I WANT TO END WITH YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD PICTURE OF THE CONSERVATION VALUE AROUND A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY. WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO PROTECT? CAN I PROTECT THOSE WITH AN EASEMENT OR DO I NEED A FEE TO PROTECT THAT? A GOOD EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE PROPERTY VULNERABLE TO [01:10:01] EXOTIC . YOU HAVE TO FIT THE TOOL TO THE CASE. THERE WAS EYE QUESTION RAISED BY HOLLY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN PARTNER WITH A LAND TRUST AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD EXPLORE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE MANTRAS WOULD HELP WITH THAT. WE WOULD TAKE ON LONG-TERM MONITORING. IT'S A POSSIBILITY. I AM HOLDING OUT THE LAND TRUST BECAUSE THAT IS MY BACKGROUND PRIOR TO MY FIVE-YEAR INDENTURED SERVITUDE AT THE DISTRICT I SPENT SEVERAL YEARS IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. HAPPY TO OFFER THAT UP AS PRT OF OUR SERVICE. WITH THAT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT CONSERVATION EASEMENTS. >> COULD YOU REPEAT HOW YOU REPLIED OR ADAPTED TO THE CRITERIA TO THE CE OFFER? YOU SAID IT KIND OF FAST. >> I WAS EXPECTING THE LIGHTS TO GO OFF. >> I FORGOT TO TURN THE TIMING BUZZER ON. I WAS SO ENTHRALLED. >> OUR COMMITTEE WAS WRESTLING JUST LIKE YOU HAVE DONE WITH WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO STACK UP A >> SIMPLE DEAL WITH A CONSERVATION EASEMENT DEAL. IT WAS CHEAPER TO PURCHASE AND CHEAPER TO MANAGE. HOW DO WE ADDRESS THESE? WHAT WAS THE SITE IT WAS BEFORE WE EVALUATE ANYTHING, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PROGRAM, LET'S HAVE A WORKSHOP AND STAFF TAKE THE TOOL AND EVALUATE A HYPOTHETICAL PIECE OF PROPERTY. IN THIS CASE IT WAS THE BEST PIECE THAT WE COULD FIND. WHEN WE GOT IT TO SCORE WE NORMALIZE THE MATRIX TO SAY THAT HE FALL 10 OUT OF 10. WITH THE INPUT AN EASEMENT AND SAID -- IT WAS ABOUT 6.5. WE KNEW THE BEST SCORE WITH POSSIBLY 6.5. THAT MADE IT A TAN IN OUR MIND. IF AN EASEMENT PROJECT CAME IN AT 6 AND FEESIMPLE CAME IN AT NINE WE KNEW THEY MET OUR GOALS ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT. >> HYPOTHETICALLY IF SOMETHING WAS ACQUIRED AS A MET CONSERVATION EASEMENT STATING PRIVATE OWNERSHIP AND THEN A COUPLE GENERATIONS DOWN THE LINE THE FAMILY DECIDED THEY WANTED TO SELL IT, WOULD IT BE ABLE TO CONVERT THE NON-PUBLIC ACCESS? I GUESS THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL GOES TO THE COUNTY OR WHATEVER. CAN IT THEN BE CONVERTED TO PUBLIC ACCESS AND ALL OF THAT? >> MR. CHAIR, AS MS. WEST WILL VERIFY ONCE THE SAME OWNER OWNS THE EASEMENT INTEREST AND THEN THE FEE INTEREST THOSE TWO MERGED AND THAT EASEMENT EXTINGUISHES AND BECOMES COUNTY [Board Member Reports ] PROPERTY. THEY CAN DO WITH IT AS THEY WISH. IT CAUSES A PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD. THE PUBLIC INTEREST FOR THAT AREA IS HOUR PARK. HENCE THE REGISTRY THAT WE DID. THAT CAN NEVER HAPPEN IF IT WERE CONSERVATION. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HELPING US OUT. BOARD REPORTS. I AM LOOKING AT MIKE. YOU CAN START. >> I AM HAPPY TO POTENTIALLY REPORTS THAT I FOUND A PARCEL OUT ON COUNTY ROAD 14 SOUTH, 450 ACRES NEAR COOLEY COVE. YOU DON'T SEE BIG PARCELS LIKE THAT FOR SALE THESE DAYS. I HAVE A CALL INTO THE REAL ESTATE AGENT HOPING TO HEAR BACK IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN ENTERTAINING OR TALKING TO ME AND FINDING OUT IF THEY HAVE ANY INTEREST OR WHAT KIND OF TIMELINE THEY ARE ON. I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER LANDOWNERS WE HAVE APPROACHED. BECAUSE OUR PROCESS IS SO LONG THE LANDOWNER DOES NOT WANT TO WAIT THAT LONG TO HAVE THE COUNTY PURCHASE IT OR OUR LAMP PROCESSOR OR EVEN A CE. I WANT TO REPORT THAT TO THE GROUP. I AM STILL TRYING TO GET THIS CORRIDOR GOING ON ALONG THE ST. JOHNS RIVER AND HIGHWAY 13. >> THANK YOU, MIKE. MRS. ROBBINS? >> I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING. MIKE AND I BOTH PARTICIPATED AT THE BIRTHDAY PARTY A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. IT WAS AWESOME. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.