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[Call to Order by Chair]

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>> TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ST.

JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. FIND THE MEETING AGENDA AND CLICK ON THE AGENDA ITEM TO ACCESS ALL THE SUPPORTING MATERIALS. THE PUBLIC WILL COMMENTS ON ANY AGENDA ITEM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. IT IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES AND SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY EXHIBITS OR PHOTOGRAPHS, PROVIDE THE MATERIALS TO THE COURT FOR INCLUSION. CAN WE

HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? >>

>> THAT'LL LEAD US INTO THE INDICATION WITH PASTOR MATT --

FROM COLONIAL CHURCH. >> GOOD MORNING. HARD TO BELIEVE WE ARE IN SUMMER ALREADY. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME DOWN AND PRAY. I WANT TO REITERATE THAT YOU AND BY CHRISTIAN MINISTERS TO COME AND PRAY, IT'S AWESOME.

THE EARTH IS THE LORD'S AND THE FULLNESS THEREOF. THE WORLD AND THOSE WHO DWELL THEREIN. HE HAS FOUND THAT IT UP ON THE SEAS AND ESTABLISHED UPON THE RIVERS. I WANT TO PRAY THIS MORNING AN OLD ANGLICAN COURT -- PRAYER. FATHER, WE KNOW NOT, TEACH US. WHAT WE HAVE NOT, GIVE US. WHAT WE ARE NOT, MAKE

US. IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. >> TO LEAD US INTO THE PLEDGE THIS MORNING, U.S. ARMY COL., GEORGE JOHNSON. GOOD MORNING.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[Public Safety Update]

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. AS THERE ARE NO PROCLAMATIONS THIS MORNING, THIS LEADS US TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY UPDATE. DIRECTOR,

GOOD MORNING. >> A COUPLE BRIEF THINGS THIS MORNING. IF YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN THE TIME OFF TO GO TO -- DAY, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'LL BE HAPPENING. WE WILL LOOK AT THAT WITH OUR PARTNERS ACROSS THE JOINING COUNTIES THAT YOU SEE THE FLORIDA HIGH PATROL TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS A SAFE AND GOOD TIME UP THERE ON THE WATER. WE HAVE THE RE-ENTRY SENSOR CAREER AND RESOURCE FAIR WHICH I HAVE GOT TO SAY HAS BECOME SUCCESSFUL WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANOTHER ONE. WE WILL HAVE TO BREAK IT INTO A RESOURCE FAIR AND CAREER FAIR BECAUSE WE HAVE COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT HAVE COME OUT TO HELP US WITH THE SITUATION. WAS IT IMPORTANCE WE HAVE FOLKS COME IN TO KEEPPEOPLE EMPLOYED THAT ARE GETTING OUT OF JAIL? IF YOU HAVE A JOB AND A SUPPORT SYSTEM, DON'T GO BACK TO JAIL.

THAT'S WHY WE REDUCED THE RECIDIVISM BY 10%, WHICH IS VIRTUALLY UNHEARD OF IN THIS WHOLE COUNTRY NOT TO MENTION THE STATES. FOLKS IN RE-ENTRY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THIS. THERE ARE QUITE A FEW. WE HAVE PEOPLE IN CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, HOSPITALITY, FOOD SERVICE WORKERS IN THOSE KIND OF THINGS. FOR RESOURCES, WE HAVE HEALTH, PSYCHOLOGICAL, FINANCIAL AND OTHER RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE. WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE PEOPLE SUCCESSFUL BUT THEY HAVE TO MAKE THE CHOICE TO DO THE RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS FOR US? >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>. IN THE BOTTOM CHAIR COMMISSION US. I BROUGHT A GUEST SPEAKER THIS MORNING.

HE'S THE FIRE CHIEF OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE AND WILL SPEAK ABOUT A RECENT PROGRAM THAT WAS JOINTS BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY AND I WILL LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT.

>> THANK YOU, CHIEF. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. WE COMPLETED SPARK THE FLAME FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME. AND ALL GIRLS DEPARTMENT CAMP TO EXPOSING LADIES IN SIXTH, SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADE TO THE FIRE SERVICE. SPECIFICALLY, TEAR DOWN STEREOTYPES AND FOCUS A FULL DAY AROUND ACTIVITIES THAT PROMOTE POSITIVITY, TEAMWORK FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.

WE DID THINGS A COMPELLING SEARCH AND RESCUE DRILLS. THERE

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WERE PUZZLES AND THINGS INCLUDED INTO THAT TO HAVE YOUNG LADIES WORK AND TALK TOGETHER. I HAD MY OWN EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT THE PROGRAM WOULD BE. IT'S SO FAR EXCEEDED THAT THAT IT WAS INCREDIBLE. WE FOUND SOMETHING WE DID NOT EVEN KNOW THAT WE NEEDED IT. AND IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT -- IT WAS A STATEWIDE EFFORT. WE HAD FIREFIGHTERS COME FROM AS FAR AWAY AS FORT MYERS.

MCGREGOR, FORT LAUDERDALE. IT WAS AN ALL FEMALE LEAD GROUP OF PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS THAT CAME FROM ALL OVER THE STATE TO BE ON DISPLAY. THEY WERE THE HEROES THIS WEEKEND. THEY WERE THE SUPERSTARS AND THE ONCE YOUNG LADIES WOULD LOOK TO TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND HELP THEM THROUGH THEIR PROBLEMS. INCLUDED IN THAT GROUP WAS A NUMBER OF AMAZING VOLUNTEERS FROM RIGHT HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. I WANT TO COMMEND THEM FOR THEIR EFFORTS. CHIEF MAGEE WAS INCREDIBLY HELPFUL AND SUPPORTIVE OF THIS INITIATIVE. SO WAS CHIEF WHALEY. THE COUNTY HELPS WITH EQUIPMENT AND TIME DONATIONS AND SENT A PHOTOGRAPHER OUT TO HELP US CAPTURE SOME OF THE IMAGES. IT TOOK ALL OF US TO PULL THIS TOGETHER. I BELIEVE THEY DESERVE RECOGNITION FOR THAT. AND SO, COMPELLED ME TO COME HERE THIS MORNING IS MUCH AS I THINK IT WAS BENEFICIAL FOR THE CAMPERS. I CANNOT UNDERSTATE -- OR, UNDEREMPHASIZED WHAT IT MEANT'S TO YOUR LOCAL FIREFIGHTERS. SPECIFICALLY THE FEMALE FIREFIGHTERS FOR THEM TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS. I GOT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OUT OF THIS. THE FEEDBACK FROM PARENTS, CAMPERS, IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE VIDEOS ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO ON AND CHECK THEM OUT. SPECIFICALLY TESTIMONIAL FROM A LUNG -- A YOUNG LADY NAMED IZZY WHO CONQUERED HER FEARS AND REPELLING AND CAME BACK FEELING SHE COULD CLIMB A MOUNTAIN. WHEN YOU WATCH THAT VIDEO , THAT IS HER PROBABLY 10 MINUTES REMOVED FROM COMING DOWN OFF OF THAT HIGH. SHE CAME UP HERE AT A 10 . ANN QUICKLY JUMPED OVER THE HELP A YOUNG LADY FROZEN ON THE LEGEND DID NOT THINK SHE COULD DO IT AND GOT HER TO CONQUER HER FEARS AND DO IT. IT WAS A REMARKABLE SUCCESS. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE PROGRAM. IF NOT, WE WILL BE BACK FOR SPRING BREAK OF THIS YEAR. LOOKING TO MAKE IT A BIGGER, BETTER EVENT AND HAVE IT BE A RECURRING EVENT HERE IN THE COUNTY SO LONG AS WE HAVE THE SPORT WE HAD THIS TIME.

>> IT WAS EVIDENTLY AN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL EVENT.

HOPING IT'LL BE FACT RECURRING. COMMISSIONER DENA?

>> I HAVE A COMMENT AND QUESTION. I HOPE ALL OF US INCLUDING THE PUBLIC REALIZE HOW BLESSED WE ARE TO HAVE TWO OUTSTANDING FIRE AND RESCUE CHIEFS IN THE COUNTY. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AS DISTRICTS FIVE COMMISSIONER AND FRANKLY, AS A FRIEND, TO WORK WITH CARLOS IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER BEFORE, CARLOS. WITHOUT A DOUBT BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, WE HAVE TWO OF THE BEST. ONE OF THE KEY ATTRIBUTES OF LEADERS AS THEY OPERATE BY EXAMPLE. LEAD BY EXAMPLE, NOT BY FEAR AND INTIMIDATION. I'VE SEEN BOTH, THE LATTER DOESN'T WORK. THESE GUYS LEAD BY SUPPORT TO THEIR TROOPS AND BY EXAMPLE. I HAD TO SAY THIS MORNING BECAUSE IT IS

TRUE. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN. AGREED. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, THANK YOU.

[Service Delivery Update]

>> THANK YOU. >> WE WILL SKIP THE CLOCK REPORT AND WILL BE WRAPPED UP INTO THE BUDGET PRESENTATION.

WE ARE AT SERVICE DELIVERY UPDATE. MR. DUNN?

>> GOOD MORNING, MDM. CHAIR. JESSE DONNA, COMMISSIONER OF THE BUDGET OFFICE. I'VE BEEN ASKED TO PRESENT THE SERVICE DELIVERY THIS MONTH. WE WILL TALK WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. THE PROGRAM WAS , THANK YOU TYLER.

THIS PROGRAM WAS PASSED IN 2021. IT WAS $1.9 TRILLION THROUGH THE TREASURY THROUGH ST. JOHN'S COUNTY RECEIVED $51.4 MILLION ALLOCATED FOR SPECIFIC PROGRAM AND PROJECT.

ALL OF WHICH , I WANT TO REITERATE. ALL OF BEEN ALLOCATED IN THIS FORM RIGHT HERE THROUGH MULTIPLE REGULAR AND CONSENTS AGENDA ITEMS. WE WILL SEE IS REALLY NOTHING NEW

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FOR THE COMMISSION. WE ARE ALL AWARE OF THE PROGRAMS. AS WE GET A LITTLE MORE THAN HALFWAY THROUGH THE PROGRAM, ADMINISTRATION THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA YET TO BRING BACK AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM. SO, HERE IS SOME OF THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY APPROPRIATION OF $51.4 MILLION OVERALL ON THIS . EVERYTHING FROM -- I WILL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS TODAY. EVERYTHING FROM THE HASTINGS VOCATIONAL SCHOOL, WHICH THE COMMISSIONS APPROVED THE AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. AS WELL, WORKING WITH UNITED WAY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHICH HAS BEEN A TERRIFIC PARTNERSHIP TO ASSIST WITH IMPACTING NONPROFITS. I WILL HAND PART OF THE PRESENTATION OFF TO THE UNITED WAY IN A LITTLE BIT TO FURTHER ELABORATE ON THAT. WE HAD THE POTENTIAL FOR WEST AUGUSTINE MEDICAL CENTER RECREATIONAL SPACE. DOLLARS WHEN WE THINK OF POST-COVID 19 TO CREATES MORE OPENS SPACES FOR PEOPLE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. HOW DID THE COUNTY PAY FOR A PORTION OF THE VACCINATION WITH TESTING AND MITIGATION PROGRAMS THROUGH COVID. A PORTION OF IT WAS PAID THROUGH THIS PROGRAM. WE HAD OUTDOOR BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAMS FOR WHICH AGAIN, TO CREATE MORE OPEN SPACE FOR PEOPLE. IT HELPS WITH RESTAURANTS AND SMALL BUSINESSES. AGAIN, 7.7 MILLION DOWN TO ABOUT $800,000 APPROPRIATION FOR THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO PROVIDE MORE BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE. SO, AGAIN, I WILL HAND OFF AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN -- THANK YOU. I AM WILL HAND OFF IN A SECOND TO JOE PICKENS AND MARK -- FOR UNITED WAY. UNITED WAY WAS ONE OF ST. JOHN COUNTIES PARTNERS. AND PROVIDED GRANT AWARDS TO ABOUT 22 NONPROFITS IN THE AREA OF ABOUT $4.6 MILLION ABILITY HOUSING. 1.2 MILLION IN HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, ALMOST $1 MILLION FOR THE FUNDING. I WILL LET THEM GO THROUGH SOME SPECIFICS OF THE PROGRAM. MOVING ON. IF YOU CAN GO TO THE PRESENTATION? I'M SORRY, TYLER. AS I MENTIONED, THE BUSINESS OUTDOOR GRANT WAS $1.2 MILLION PROGRAM UTILIZED TO ENHANCE BUSINESS NONPROFIT -- AND/OR NONPROFIT OUTDOOR SPACE FOR COVID-19 MITIGATION.

IMPROVE THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 35 BUSINESSES IN THE AMOUNT OF ABOUT 1.1, ALMOST $1.2 MILLION. RECREATION SPACE.

ABOUT OPEN SPACES ABOUT $4.3 MILLION BUDGETED FOR THAT PROGRAM . IT IS ALMOST COMPLETE AND WAS USED FOR MAINTAINING AND OPENING SPACE. INVITING THE COMMUNITY BACK OUT. EVERYTHING FROM REPLACING THE FIELD TURF TO REPLACING THE BASKETBALL COURTS AND RESURFACING TENNIS COURTS. GETTING PEOPLE, AGAIN, THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK OUTSIDE. MOVING FORWARD. AS PART OF THE ARPA PROGRAM THAT ALLOWED FOR UP TO $10 MILLION WHAT WAS CALLED LOST REVENUE THAT COULD BE ALLOCATED TO PROJECTS BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY PROJECTS, ST. JOHN'S COUNTY APPROPRIATED $7 MILLION. YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECTS APPEAR TOWARD THE VILLAGE LAND ACQUISITION WITH $2 MILLION. WE PUT 2 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS TOWARD STATION 11. $1.7 MILLION TOWARD --. A SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. AS WELL AS A LITTLE LESS THAN $1 MILLION FOR CR 2209. LEVERAGING LOCAL DOLLARS AND IMPACT FEES. STATE DOLLARS IN FEDERAL DOLLARS TO GET THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECT COMPLETED. WE ARE WORKING ON -- I AM NOT -- BUT THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON $7 MILLION IN HASTINGS WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA TO CREATE NEW WATER TRANSMISSION CORRIDOR IN HASTINGS. THE PROJECT CONTINUES ON. TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE ARPA DOLLARS. THE REQUIREMENT IS TO HAVE THE DOLLARS COMPLETED BY DECEMBER 31. OF 2026. THOSE DOLLARS HAVE TO BE COME BIRD AND/OR COMMITTED BY THIS DECEMBER. THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO BRING AN UPDATE ON IT. GOOD NEWS IS ALL THE DOLLARS ARE

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COMMITTED. AND WE WILL SEE THAT GOING INTO DECEMBER AND WE WILL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL TWO YEARS TO COMPLETE THE PROJECTS. THE COMMISSION HAS APPROVED TWO POINT -- $2.3 MILLION WITH THE SUBRECIPIENT AGREEMENT AGAIN IN ST. JULIAN'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS WITH THE SERVICE CENTER. AS WELL AS THE COMMISSION APPROVED I BELIEVE IN APRIL, ST. JOHN COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT TO ESTABLISH A SECOND CAMPUS OF THE TECHNICAL COLLEGE. IN HASTINGS. AT THE OLD HASTINGS HIGH SCHOOL. AS WELL, THERE WERE $5 MILLION APPROPRIATED FOR A WEST AUGUSTINE MEDICAL CENTER. FROM EHRLICH, TO SERVE RESIDENTS IN THE WEST AUGUSTINE AND TO SERVE AS A PRIMARY MEDICAL CARE FACILITY IN THAT REGION. AND THAT IS REALLY IT. AGAIN, A QUICK OVERVIEW AND THE COMMISSION IS AWARE OF THE PROGRAM. AND, AGAIN, WE ARE MOVING TOWARD THAT DECEMBER. WE ARE ABOUT SIX MONTHS OUT FROM DECEMBER AND WANT TO LET COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC KNOW THOSE DOLLARS ARE FULLY COMMITTED AT THIS POINT WHICH IS GOOD NEWS. THERE ARE COMMUNITIES STRUGGLING TO APPROPRIATE AND COMMIT THE DOLLARS. IT WAS A PRETTY HEFTY PROGRAM TO GET OFF THE GROUND RUNNING AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN THROUGH DECEMBER 2026. WITH THAT, THE ADMINISTRATION THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO BRING ARPA BACK. BUT AS WELL, BRING THE UNITED WAY IN AND LET THEM PROVIDE DETAILS OF THE SERVICES AND PARTNERSHIP THEY PROVIDE FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. WHAT THAT, I WILL HAND IT OFF TO MR. JOE PICKENS AND MR. MARK -- TO REPRESENT THE UNITED WAY.

>> ANKA, MR. DUNN. GOOD MORNING.

>> WELL, GOOD MORNING CHAIR ARNOLD AND COMMISSIONERS.

HENRY, IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> WE GO BACK 40 YEARS. WE ARE BOTH OLD.

>> WE ARE. HOWEVER, IT IS BETTER TO BE SEEN BEEN VIEWED, AND WE ARE HAPPY TO SEE YOU. MY NAME IS JOE PICKENS, AND I HAPPEN TO BE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE UNITED WAY OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. CHAIR ARNOLD SPECIFICALLY, TO YOU AND TO JOY. YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MARK TO TALK ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY YOU GAVE TO THE UNITED WAY. YOU DID NOT HAVE TO. AND THE PERFORMANCE THE UNITED WAY FRANKLY DID IN THAT RESPONSIBILITY. I WANT TO INTRODUCE CAROL -- A BOARD MEMBER ALSO WHO WAS WITH US AND JOINED US. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. MARK AND I WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE IN MY 30 SECONDS THAT I WILL TAKE. I WAS NOT A BOARD CHAIR WHEN THIS IDEA CAME ABOUT PARTNERING WITH THE UNITED WAY.

MARK WAS NOT THE CEO. I HAD, WE ARE HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU.

BUT THE REAL EMBODIMENT OF THE UNITED WAY HERE IS NOT THROUGH ME OR THROUGH MARK, FRANKLY. IT IS THROUGH THE THREE PEOPLE HE WILL MENTION AND THE OTHER STAFF THAT WERE HERE IN THE BEGINNING AND ARE HERE NOW. AND DID ALL OF THE WORK. I WANT TO LIFT UP BEFORE YOU, THE REAL HEART AND SOUL OF THE UNITED WAY. THE STAFF MEMBERS MARK WILL INTRODUCE TO YOU. WHO REALLY PERFORMED IN A WAY THAT I DON'T KNOW WE COULD'VE IMAGINED WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE THROES OF THIS PANDEMIC. CHAIR ARNOLD, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

>> THANK YOU. >>

>> THANK YOU, JOE. COMMISSIONER ARNOLD , COMMISSIONERS. IT IS A PRIVILEGE AND HONOR TO BE BEFORE YOU TODAY TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP EFFORTS WITH YOU.

TO SERVE AS COMMUNITY. AND BRIEFLY I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO INTRODUCE SOME OF THE TEAM. WE LIKE TRAVELING AS A HERD SOMETIMES. I WANT TO ASK FROM TO STAND, -- BACA, DIRECTOR OF FINANCE. ANNA, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS. AND WHEN SHE JOINED UNITED WAY WAS THE ARPA ANALYST WHO IS NOW THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY IMPACT. WE HAVE A NEW ADDITION TO THE TEAM, THE INTERN, JASON --. PLEASE STAND. THESE INDIVIDUALS WORK HARD , TIRELESSLY . THEY SERVE WELL INTO IT BEHIND THE SCENES. THEY HAVE SERVED THIS GRANT WELL. THE COUNTY AND

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COMMUNITY WELL. I AM SO PROUD TO BE WITH THEM IN THIS EFFORT.

AND, THINK YOU GUYS. I ALSO WOULD BE REMISS NOT TO MENTION ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS NO LONGER OFFICIALLY ON THE UNITED WAY TEAM. BUT WORKED SO HARD IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT OFF THE GROUND. JENNY HARVEY, WHO WAS NOT WORKING WITH THE COUNTY. JENNY, HER HEART AND SERVICE. SHE LAID THE TRACKS FOR WHAT THE PROJECTHAS BECOME. I WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD. ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD AND STAFF, KNOW THAT WE ARE HONORED AND GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SERVED IN THIS LEADERSHIP ROLE THE COUNTY. I WANT TO OFFER A FEW UPDATES. I SHARED A BRIEF PACKET WITH YOU TO GIVE YOU DETAILS HOPEFULLY THAT'LL HUMANIZE YOU AND MAKE MORE CONCRETE THE INVESTMENTS WE MADE TOGETHER. A FEW TECHNICAL NOTES. TWO DATES. OVER 4.375 MILLION IN ARPA PROGRAM GRANTS HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO 19 GRANT PARTNERS. WE ARE PROUD BUT NOT SURPRISED THAT ALL GRANTEES ARE IN COMPLIANCE UTILIZING FUNDING TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. ONE HIGHLIGHT THAT IS ON THE THIRD PAGE OF THE PACKAGE. I WANT TO LOOKED UP TO YOU. THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL OVER $500,000 IN GRANT FUNDS BEYOND THE ORIGINAL $4.37 MILLION THAT WAS ALLOCATED WE WERE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE . WE ALLOCATE TO THE COMMUNITY. AS A RESULT OF UNITED WAY'S ADMINISTRATIVE SAVINGS. WE ARE REALLY PROUD OF IT AND WE WANT TO LIFT IT UP TO YOU. I WANT TO LEAD WITH THE PUNCHLINE BY THE NUMBERS, OVER 50,000 INDIVIDUALS HAVE BENEFITED FROM THE PROGRAMS FUNDED THROUGH THE ARPA GRANTS. THAT IS A BIG NUMBER AND I'M SURE IT'LL GROW AS WE CONTINUE TO TRACK AND MONITOR PROGRESS OF THE PROGRAM. I WANTED TO OFFER A FEW WORDS ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. COUNSELING FAMILIES WITH MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS.

EMPLOYMENT TRAINING FOR THOSE STRUGGLING TO FIND WORK. FOOD TO HUNGRY CHILDREN TO EAT ON THE WEEKENDS. EMERGENCY FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO THOSE IN CRISIS. SHELTERED YOUNG PEOPLE LIVING ON THE STREETS. SUPPORTING CHILDREN STRUGGLING IN CLASSROOMS. WHICH WAS A MAJOR CONCERN COMING UP FROM COVID. AND LEGAL SERVICES TO FAMILIES TRYING TO AVOID EVICTION. I WAS TALKING TO ONE OF THE PARTNERS THE OTHER DAY.

ABOUT SOME OF THEIR PLANS AS AN AGENT THE. FORWARD ONCE THE ARPA DOLLARS HAVE EXPENDED. AND I WANTED TO ACTUALLY SAY OUT LOUD HOW BLESSED HOW FORTUNATE WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY TO HAVE AN AMAZING NONPROFIT SECTOR HERE IN THIS TOWN. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO PUBLICLY KNOWLEDGE THE 19 ORGANIZATIONS.

CAN I SEE THEM BY NAME SO WE CAN ALL BE REMINDED HOW FORTUNATE WE ARE? OFF OF OMEGA MIRACLE HOME. CATHOLIC CHARITIES. CHILDREN HOME SOCIETY OF FLORIDA. EPIC BEHAVIORAL COMMUNITY SEPSIS. FRISCO'S CULTURAL CENTER, HOMELESS COALITION, GOODWILL INDUSTRIES, HUGS ACROSS THE COUNTY, INC. LEGAL AID, OPERATION NEW HOPE, PREVENTION COALITION, ST. AUGUSTINE SEPSIS, ST. FRANCIS, ELEVATION ARMY, THE YMCA, WILDFLOWER CHRONIC AND THE YOUTH CRISIS CENTER. WE ARE SO PROUD TO HAVE BEEN YOUR PARTNER TO SERVE AS A FUNDER AND A FACILITATOR AND THESE ARE THE ORGANIZATIONS DOING THE WORK EVERY DAY. THEY SERVE FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS IN THIS COMMUNITY. BEFORE ARPA, AFTER ARPA, WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THESE ORGANIZATIONAL HEROES. FROM A GRANTMAKING A PROCESS PERSPECTIVE COMING IN FOR LANDING HERE. WE WILL CONTINUE TO STEWARD THE RESOURCES WITH TRANSPARENCY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THIS SUMMER WE WILL BE DOING WILL BE CONDUCTING SITE VISITS WITH VOLUNTEERS. AS A REFRESHER. ALL OF THE GRANTS THAT WERE REVIEWED AND DISTRIBUTED. THIS HAS BEEN A STAFF AND VOLUNTEER DRIVEN PROCESS. THAT'LL TAKE PLACE IN JUNE AND JULY AND SHOULD YOU AS A COMMISSIONER HAVE TIME AND INTEREST TO PARTICIPATE IN SITE VISITS, WE WELCOME BATS. UNITED WAY PROVIDES THE COUNTY BY THE END OF 2024. A FULL ACCOUNTING OF ARPA'S IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY. LOOKING TO THE FUTURE. I WANT TO SAY IT IS IMPORTANT TO THE BOARD AND STAFF THAT YOU KNOW HOW GRATEFUL AND HOW HONORED WE ARE TO HAVE SERVED DURING THIS PROCESS HELPING TO PLAY OUR PARTISAN ORGANIZATION. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND THOUGHTS AND IDEAS, KNOW WE ARE OPEN TO THE UNITED WAY AND SURELY WE WOULD WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS ANY FUTURE PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN US AND THE COUNTY THAT'LL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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>> THANK YOU, MARK. >> I WASN'T SURE WHAT HER JOB WAS WHEN I FIRST MET HER. I CAN TELL YOU FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF UNITED WAY, HER JOB WAS TO DO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING WE EVER NEEDED NO MATTER WHAT IT WAS DURING THE COURSE OF THE PROCESS. SHE MADE THE PROCESS INCREDIBLY EASIER FOR US AS OUR LIAISON WITH YOU EVERY DAY. WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SHARING HER WITH THIS DURING THE PROCESS. SHE WAS AWESOME.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT, JOE. THANK YOU MARK, AND THE TEAM.

THIS WAS A VERY HEAVY LIFT. YOU GUYS COMING TO THE TABLE HELPING US COME UP WITH THE PROGRAM I THINK IS A MODEL THROUGHOUT THE STATE TO ENSURE THE DOLLARS GOT TO THE PLACES WHERE THEY ARE MOST IMPACTFUL. I APPRECIATE YOU MORE THAN YOU

KNOW. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> I WANT TO SEND A WORD OF THANKS TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA.

THIS WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THE MONEY CAME FORWARD. TO BRING IT INTO THE PUBLIC MEETING SO EVERYBODY CAN BE REMINDED OF WHERE THE MONEY WENT. I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING I APPRECIATE IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY. ANOTHER WORD OF THANKS TO EVERYBODY AT THE UNITED WAY WHO FILTERED THROUGH IT. WE WERE ASKED TO ALLOCATE THE FUNDS INITIALLY. WE COULD HAVE DONE THAT BUT WE ARE NOT NEARLY AS WELL-EQUIPPED AS YOU GUYS ARE. YOU DO IT FOR A LIVING. SHORT OF COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, I DON'T THINK THE BOARD WOULD HAVE DONE THIS KIND OF JOB AND QUALITY YOU WOULD HAVE DID. SO, THANK YOU FOR

YOUR EFFORTS. >> COMMISSIONER DEANNA?

>> THE PUBLIC MAY KNOW THE BACK STORY. THE REASON THIS WORKS WELL IN MY OPINION IS THE CHAIR HAPPENS TO BE AN ALUMNA. IS THAT RIGHT? ALUMNI? OF THE UNITED WAY. AND I THINK, WITH HER, HER ABILITY TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THE UNITED WAY , IT ONLY HELPS THE PROCESS TREMENDOUSLY. I DID NOT WANTED TO GO WITHOUT SOME LITTLE RECOGNITION.

[Deletions to Consent Agenda]

>> THANK YOU, HENRY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT BRINGS US INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. ANY DELETIONS OF THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> NO, MA'AM. >> I HAVE NONE. COMMISSIONER

WHITEHURST? >> NUN, MDM. CHAIR.

>> WE ARE OPENING UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD. YOU WILL ALSO BE GIVEN

THREE MINUTES. >> DJ, WEST CITY OF SAN AUGUSTINE. I APPRECIATE WHAT MR. DEAN SAID. YOU KNOW? AND WHAT MR. JESSE BROUGHT US UP TO DATE ON ARPA. I WONDERED WHAT WAS GOING ON. ITEM NUMBER 18 GOES WITH IT. UNITED WAY WAS GIVEN $7.3 MILLION TO DISTRIBUTE TO THE NONPROFITS FROM AUGUST 1, 2022 TO JUNE 30, 2024. ON THE AGENDA, WE WANT TO EXTEND THE DATE FROM THE FROM 24 JUNE TO DECEMBER 31, 2024. I WANT TO KNOW WHY AND WHAT IS HAPPENED WE COULD NOT DISTRIBUTE ALL OF THAT MONEY? COMMISSIONER JESSE MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT 2026. I THINK WE NEED MORE CLARIFICATION ON THAT? HOW MUCH, IF WHAT, GENTLEMEN WERE SAYING FROM THE UNITED WAY. THERE IS THREE POINT SOMETHING MILLION LEFT OF THE 73 THERE IS THREE POINT SOMETHING MILLION LEFT OF THE SEVEN 3 MILLION TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE NONPROFITS.

IT HASN'T BEEN DISTRIBUTE IT AS OF TODAY OR JUNE 30. I WANT TO KNOW, TOO, SOME OF THE BACK MATERIAL. HOW MUCH OF THE $69,569 FOR ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES TO UNITED WAY IS STILL AVAILABLE? HAVE THEY EXTENDED THAT FOR RUNNING THE PROGRAM? HOW MUCH OF IT STILL AVAILABLE TO BE PAID OUT? IF NOBODY CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS NOW, I WILL GIVE IT TO MR. JESSE TO FIND OUT MORE THINGS. IT IS GOOD THAT IT BROUGHT UP THE CLARIFICATION OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THE ARPA MONEY SINCE 2021. BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER NONPROFITS THAT COULD'VE BENEFITED ALREADY. THERE MAY BE A REASON WHY IT HAS NOT BEEN SPENT. IF ANYBODY CAN ELABORATE ON THAT NOW WITH THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND AND ALSO FOR THE NONPROFITS THAT DID NOT GET ANY OF THE THREE POINT MILLION DOLLARS TO GET WITH THE UNITED WAY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. TO HELP WITH THEIR

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PROGRAMS. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE STILL NEED SOME MONEY AND SOME

HELP. BINKY. >> MDM. CHAIR, LAKESHORE SHE GETS WITH -- TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. THERE WERE A SERIES OF QUESTIONS THEY CAN PROBABLY ANSWER OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> GOOD MORNING. I WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO CONSENT AGENDA ITEM FIVE. A LAND

ACQUISITION. >> NAME AND ADDRESS. TO -- . TO ITEM FIVE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA PURCHASE SALE AGREEMENT FOR ACQUISITION OF 6.8 ACRES FOR THE CONSERVATION.

>> APPROVING THE TRANSFER OF UP TO 55,000 OF THE LAND PRESERVE.

CAN WE HAVE A STAFF MEMBER ADDRESS THAT? CAN WE NOT HAVE LAND ACQUISITION ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AGAIN? IT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED OPENLY WITH THE SPEAKER ON THE COUNTY STAFF,

THANK YOU. >> THE ITEM. GOOD MORNING.

DORIS TAYLOR, 208, LABELLE ROAD. SAN AUGUSTINE. I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS ABOUT THE AGENDA ITEM, CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, NUMBER NINE. YOU CAN'T REALLY TELL WHAT IT IS FOR FROM THE WRITEUP. I LOOKED IT UP. THERE WAS NO DOCUMENTATION OUT BACK ABOUT WHAT IT IS. BUT YOU CAN DRILL DOWN ONLINE. WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE IS EXTENDING A CONTRACT FOR ANOTHER YEAR AND A HALF. ORIGINALLY A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT. EXTENDED TWO YEARS.

AND NOW, YOU WANT TO EXTEND ANOTHER YEAR AND A HALF. AND YOU WANT TO ADD HUNDRED AND $5000 TO THE EXPENDITURES FOR THE CONTRACT. WITH NO DISCUSSION. WHAT THEY WRITE UP ON THE AGENDA, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT IT IS FOR. I FOUND A LITTLE BIT DISTURBING. IT IS NOT EASY TO DESCRIBE.

MONEY FOR CONTRACT FOR A COMPANY CALLED CAPITAL ACCESS INCORPORATED. AND , WHAT THEY DO THEY HELP THE COUNTY AS I UNDERSTAND IT FROM THE WRITEUP. THEY HELP THE COUNTY FIGURE OUT HOW TO HANDLE THE GRANT MONEY TO DEAL WITH HUD. THE WRITEUP IS FAIRLY AMUSING. EXPERTISE OF THE CONSULTANT IS VITAL TO ENSURE THE COMPLETED AND TIMELY MANNER. AND TRAINING AND WHATEVER. I'M SORRY BUT WHEN WE SIGN UP FOR A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT , ARE WE REALLY SIGNING UP FOR AN IMPOSSIBLY ENDLESS CONTRACT THAT CAN BE PUT THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA AND EXTENDED AN EXTENDED AND EXTENDED? I THINK THAT IS A BAD WAY TO DO BUSINESS. AND MAYBE, IF THE THREE-YEAR CONTRACTS WILL TAKE SIX AMOUNT OF YEARS TO EXECUTE, MAYBE IT SHOULDN'T BE EXTENDED TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT HOW THE JOB IS GETTING DONE AND DO IT A DIFFERENT WAY. PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS. LET US NOW WHY THE THREE-YEAR CONTRACT TURNED OUT TO BE 6 1/2 YEAR CONTRACT. WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS OKAY TO ADD MONEY TO A CONTRACT AFTER THE FACT. DOES IT MEAN THE INITIAL CONTACT DOES NOT MATTER AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE WILL END UP SPENDING? IT DOES NOT SEEM RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT

[Approval of Consent Agenda]

AGENDA? >> SEEING NINE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. TO BACK TO THE

BOARD, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> FOR ANYBODY WHO HAS CURIOSITY ABOUT THE CONSENT ITEMS EXPRESSED, YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL THE STAFF MEMBER ASSIGNED TO THE CONSENT ITEM. FOR INSTANCE, ON ITEM NUMBER NINE, JAMIE LOCKLEAR IS THE STAFF MEMBER AND DIRECTOR OF PURCHASING. SHE IS ASSIGNED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT ITEM. IT WAS PUBLISHED ABOUT A WEEK AGO. YOU HAVE FROM, LET'S SAY, LAST WEDNESDAY TO TUESDAY MORNING CALL JAMIE LOCKLEAR AT THE NUMBER LISTED. 904 209 904209158. SHE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS . SHE CAN ALSO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS. I WOULD SAY, KNOWING A LITTLE BIT

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ABOUT THE CONSENT ITEM, THE FEARS EXPRESSED IN THE FORM OF QUESTIONS ARE UNFOUNDED. IN THE FUTURE WHEN THE AGENDA IS PUBLISHED IF YOU HAVE THOSE KIND OF CONCERNS AND FEARS AND QUESTIONS, CALL THE NUMBER ON THE CONSENT ITEM. IN THIS CASE, IT IS 209-0158. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. COMMISSIONER

JOSEPH? >> WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT WITH WITH COMMISSIONER SAID, IF YOU GO ONLINE, YOU CAN SEE A LOT MORE DETAIL. THE NUMBER, YOU CAN SEE MORE THINGS BEHIND IT, WHICH IS WHAT I DID ON THAT ONE. ESPECIALLY. REGARDING THE LAND PROPERTY. I DID LOOK INTO THAT. I AGREE IF IT WERE A LARGE LAND PIECE, I WOULD NOT LEAVE THIS IN CONSENT AGENDA. I THOUGHT IT WAS A REASONABLE PIECE, SO, THANK YOU.

>> DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA?

[Additions/Deletions to Regular Agenda]

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ADDITION AND DELETION TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.

[Approval of Regular Agenda]

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH QUESTION MARK TO NONE, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> NONNA.

[1. Constitutional Officers’ Fiscal Year 2025 Budget Presentations - The St. Johns County Sheriff, the Clerk of the Circuit Court and Comptroller, and the Property Appraiser. Presentation of the Constitutional Officer’s tentative budgets for Fiscal Year 2025. Under F.S. 129.03(2), on or before June 1 of each year, Constitutional Officers shall submit to the Board of County Commissioners (BCC) a tentative budget for their respective offices for the ensuing fiscal year. Since the Tax Collector is feebased, it is not required for the Tax Collector's budget to be submitted to the BCC at this time. The Sheriff, Clerk of the Circuit Court and Comptroller, and the Property Appraiser will each make a brief oral presentation to the BCC relative to their respective tentative budget. Presenter: Joanne Spencer, Sr Assistant to the Board of County Commissioners]

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

>> EMOTION AND A SECOND. -- PLEASE VOTE IN THE AGENDA IS APPROVED. ONTO ITEM NUMBER ONE. MR. DINA, WHAT THEM BACK.

>> THANK YOU. ALL FOR THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS. THIS MORNING, WE WILL HEAR A PRESENTATION FROM THREE OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND CLERK OF COURTS. THE COMPTROLLER AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY APPRAISER BUDGET. THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS PRESENTATION WILL BE PROVIDED ON THE JUNE A CHANCE BCC -- JUNE 18 BCC AGENDA. THIS IS IN LINE WITH THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT AND THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS. THE EIGHT DAYS WERE LIVE AND TELEVISED THROUGH GTP AND WERE RECORDED AND AVAILABLE. WE WENT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENTS AND SOME OF THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS. WE HAD EACH DEPARTMENT IN AND WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET DISCUSSION. THERE WAS NO DECISION MADE. IT WAS A DISCUSSION ON THE REQUESTED BUDGETS. SIMILARLY TODAY. THERE WAS NO ACTION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS A PRESENTATION ONLY ON THE THREE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER BUDGET REQUESTS. WE WILL CERTAINLY BE BRINGING BACK IN JULY A RECOMMENDED BUDGET AT THAT TIME. THE BOARD WILL CERTAINLY BE MAKING SOME DECISIONS ABOUT TENTATIVE RATES AS WE MOVE INTO SEPTEMBER. BUT AGAIN, THERE WAS NO REQUIRED ACTION TODAY ON THIS. JUMPING RIGHT INTO IT.

FIRST, WE WILL GO IN ORDER AS THE AGENDA ITEM. WE WILL GO FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO THE CLERK OF CIRCUIT COURT AND COMPTROLLER. FINALLY BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, THE PROPERTY APPRAISAL BUDGET. WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT OFF TO

SHERIFF HARDWICK. >> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. MDM.

CHAIR? FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US PRESENT THE BUDGET TO YOU ALONG WITH TWO OF MY OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS. I WANT TO THANK THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THE ENTIRE STAFF. DIRECTOR DONE, I WANT TO THANK THE CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THE SUPPORT IS HANDS-DOWN ONE OF THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY. IT COMES DIRECTLY FROM YOU AND DECISIOS WE MAKE ON THE BUDGET EVERY SINGLE YEAR. AS DIRECTOR DONE NOSE, A SHERIFF PRESENTING BUDGETS. AS SOON AS YOU APPROVE THE BUDGET REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS IN OCTOBER, WE WORK ON NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING. AS WE GO WITH MY SLIDE PRESENTATION HERE -- OH, THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. THIS IS NOTHING NEW. OUR POPULATION HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY CONTINUES TO INCREASE. YOU LOOK AT THE U.S. CENSUS AND THEY'RE STUCK ON

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2020. OF COURSE, THE STAFF HERE AT ST. JOHN'S COUNTY KNOWS THE INCREASE OF THE POPULATION WE ARE USING THE REGION 15,000 RESIDENTS HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. NOT TO INSULT YOUR INTELLIGENCE AT ALL BUT TO REMIND YOU IT IS 601 MI.÷ THE POLICE. WE ALSO HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE MARINE PATROL UNITS GO AS FAR OFF THE COAST OF THE 50 MILES WE CAN ACCESS PEOPLE IN ANY TYPE OF EMERGENCY. AS WE GET INTO THE PRESENTATION , MY STAFF IS PART OF ME AND I WOULD NOT BE DOING THIS TODAY IF I DID NOT SURROUND MYSELF WITH PEOPLE BETTER THAN ME. BEHIND ME HERE , DIRECTOR RUSS MARTIN OF OPERATIONS. TOWER RUNS THE GENERAL SEPSIS. MISTY NORTH IS FILLING IN FOR DIRECTOR FOR THE JALEN CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT. AND SKIP COLE IS THE LAST ONE HERE BEHIND ME WHO WAS WITH THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION DIVISION AND REAL-TIME INTELLIGENCE SENSOR. WE HAD A REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC CRASHES IN APPROXIMATELY 50%. THAT COMES WITH A PRICE TAG. WE STEPPED UP OUR GAME AS FAR AS DUI ENFORCEMENT, AGGRESSIVE DRIVING AND UNMARKED VEHICLES TRYING TO ENFORCE THIS AS BEST AS WE CAN WITH THE TRAFFICKING INCREASES OF THE TRAFFIC INFRACTIONS. IT'S NO HIDDEN SECRETS.

FLORIDA AND ST. JOHN'S COUNTY IS NOT EXEMPT FROM THAT.

FOOTNOTES AND ONE SEES DRUG IN FENTANYL COUNTY. SEIZED DRUG.

METHAMPHETAMINE , WE ARE BATTLING DRUG OVERDOSES AND ADDICTION. WE ARE ALSO BATTLING NONFATAL OVERDOSES AS WELL. WE HAD A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE CALLS FOR SERVICE. HE REPORTED UNDER 400,000 AND WE HAD ABOUT A 20,000 INCREASE IN CALLS FOR SERVICE. 414,000 CALLS FOR THE SERVICE IS ADMINISTRATIVE CALLS COME AND GONE, OUTGOING TRANSFERS. MINUS THAT WILL BE MINUS -115,000 -115,009 11 CALLS. 265,000 COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH CALLS WITH THE DEPUTY SHERIFF. YOU KNOW THIS WHEN I BECAME SHERIFF BACK 2021, -- ASSUMED THE REINS OF AND AUGUSTINE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE INHERITED THAT FROM THEM ON THE AGREEMENT BACK THEN CITY MANAGER --. WE STILL HAVE THAT AS OF TODAY ON A CONTRACTUAL SERVICE. THE CITY CAN TAKE ABOUT WHATEVER THEY WANT. IT IS A BETTER PRODUCT THAT WE ARE PROVIDING NOW FOR EVERYBODY VISITING ST. JOHNS COUNTY HERE.

THE DAILY JAIL POPULATION AND WE AVERAGED 183 LAST YEAR. THIS EVENING, IT IS 410. IT IS THE FLUCTUATING THING DEPENDING ON WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE COUNTY. IT DEPENDS ON THE TIMES OF THE DAY, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. THE BOOKINGS, 6375. ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND TO THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS FROM THE FLORIDA HIGHWAY CONTROL -- PATROL. WE HAD A PARTNERSHIP.

WE ARE THE ONLY JAIL HOLDING FACILITY. AS WE GET INTO THE PRESENTATION, WE ARE NOT HURTING FOR RECRUITING RETENTION. YOU ALLOWED US TO PROGRESS FORWARD WITH THIS. I KNOW IT COMES WITH AN EXPENSE OF THE CITIZENS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. IT PROVIDES A BETTER SERVICE. WHEN I TOOK OVER AS SHERIFF IN 2021, STARTING PAY WAS 42,000. SINCE I'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU AS A SHERIFF, YOU INCREASE THE $55,000. 911 OPERATORS ARE AT 35,000. WITH YOUR ASSISTANCE AND ENTIRE STAFF. DISPATCH IS $50,000 STARTING PAY. THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, THE 911 DISPATCHERS ARE AT FULL STAFF. IT IS A VERY TAXING JOB ON OUR PEOPLE. THE LINE LEVEL EMPLOYEES, SPECIALS AS WE CALL IT. WHEN I TOOK OVER $31,000 THAT'S THE STARTING PAY. THE LOWEST PLAYED -- PAID EMPLOYEE AT THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY OFFICE. WE WILL COME FORWARD AS MONKS WE CONTINUE TO SEE INFLATION GROWTH AND THOSE WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. YOU'LL SEE A $10.5 MILLION INCREASE IN THE BUDGET. THAT WE HAVE COURSE, I WILL BREAK IT DOWN IN A MINUTE, $10.5 MILLION INCREASE INCLUDING 2020 POSITIONS. I DO NOT THINK WE WOULD FILL IT THAT QUICK BUT WE FELT IT WAS THE FIRST TIME IN CLASS IN JANUARY. THROUGH ATTRITION, WHEN INTO HERE AND THERE, PEOPLE RETIREMENT, WE ARE ALMOST AT FULL STAFF OF THE DEPUTY SHERIFF. IT IS ALMOST AT -- INCLUDING ROUGHLY 13 RESERVES WITH WHEN RESERVE. THE DEPUTY SHERIFF THAT WORKS RETENTION FACILITY. THIS CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION TODAY. IN THE $1.3 MILLION INCREASE IN THE

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RETIREMENT SYSTEM. IF YOU RECALL SEVERAL LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AGO, THE PAST AND INCREASE FOR THE FRS AND CONTRIBUTIONS BY THE EMPLOYER WHICH AFFECTED ALL OF US IN GOVERNMENT SERVICES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. WE ABSORBED IT THROUGH THE LAST YEAR BUDGET CYCLE AND WE PAID IT TOGETHER.

KNOWING THIS YEAR, IT'LL COME WITH A PRICE TYPE FOR THE FLORIDA RETIREMENT SYSTEM. WE HAVE ABOUT $1.3 MILLION INCREASE IN THE SYSTEM FOR APPROXIMATELY 992 EMPLOYEES.

AND A $1 MILLION INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE AS WELL. EVERY BUSINESS IS SUFFERING FROM THE SAME THING THAT GOVERNMENTS ARE. WE HAD A 20% INCREASE IN THE FLEET INSURANCE. IT COMES A VERY LARGE FLEETS. WHEN WE ADD ON 20 NEW POSITIONS, IT IS AND JUST COME WITH A PRICE TAG. YOU CAN DO THE MATH ABOUT $25,000 AND 25% INCREASE TO 55,000 COMES WITH THE BENEFIT PACKAGE AND TAXES AND ALL OF THESE GOOD STUFF. IT COST US ABOUT $200,000 TO ADD A BRAND-NEW DEPUTY SHERIFF. WE TAKE THE 21 POSITIONS IN THE ROAD DEPUTY SHERIFF, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE DEPUTY SHERIFF WITHOUT TAKE-HOME CARS. IF WE TAKE ALL 21 POSITIONS WITH A LITTLE BUT A SIMPLE MATH, WE GET FIVE DEPUTY SHERIFFS PER $1 MILLION. THE COST OF CARS IS $60,000 WITH A $75,000 CAR. WE PUT PEOPLE IN THE BEST AND SAFEST CARS AND IT COMES WITH COMPUTERS AND CAGES AND EQUIPMENT AND DEPUTY SHERIFF RADIO NOW IS $80,000. COMES WITH A COST. WE HAVE OF COURSE THE BIGGEST SOURCE RIGHT NOW ARE THE FLEET LOANS. IT IS A NORMAL COST OF DOING BUSINESS WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE. THE REVENUE SERVICES I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TWO BIGGEST ONES WE CURRENTLY HAVE. WE ASKED FOR AN INCREASE IN THE ST. JOHN COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT. A PAY 69.1% OF COMPENSATION BENEFITS FOR THE DEPUTY SHERIFFS WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. WITH THAT, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE INSURANCE ON THE CAR AND WE TALKED ABOUT OTHER THINGS THAT COME WITH THE TRAINING STUFF LIKE THAT. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PAYS 69.1%. WE ARE IN A POSITION UNDER THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE AND LAW WE HAVE TO PUT THE DEPUTY SHERIFF WITH PEOPLE IN THE SCHOOL WITH THE GUARDIANSHIP PROGRAM. THIS YEAR, WE ED THREE MORE DEPUTY SHERIFFS TO THE BUDGET INCREASES LITTLE BIT. TO INCREASE THE BUDGET TO JUST UNDER $5.7 MILLION WITH A PAY IS 69 POINT MILLION -- AGAIN, COMES WITH THREE DEPUTY SHERIFFS . IN THE NORTH CENTRAL PART OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. EACH OF THOSE WITH THE DEPUTY SHERIFF COMES A FLOAT OF DEPUTY SHERIFF TO THE FOR THE SCHOOLS.

76% OF THE BUDGET IS IN COMPENSATION AND BENEFIT OF THE 992 EMPLOYEES. APPROXIMATELY 70 SCHOOL CROSSING GUARDS AND 42 PSA'S THAT WORK UP THERE WITH NO BENEFIT THAT HAVE COURSE THAT GET PAID BY THE HOURLY RATES. OPERATING EXPENSES AS A TOTAL BUDGET. I'M SORRY, AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT, YOU SEE THE $1.7 MILLION BASICALLY FOR E911. E911 , THIS IS COLLECTED OFF THE LAND LINE, PREPAID AND CELL PHONE CHARGES WHEN YOU PAY A SURCHARGE ON ALL THOSE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT. USED DIRECTLY FOR THE E911 SYSTEM. I HAVE FIVE EMPLOYEES IN THERE.

COMPENSATION BENEFITS ARE PAID WHICH IS AT 1.7. WE HAVE THREE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES THAT CAN BE PAID UNDER THE MONEY OF WHAT THEY CALL 911 CALL TAKERS. THEY CAN ONLY RECEIVE THE CALLS TO RECEIVE THE FUNDING. IT IS IN ADDITION TO THE BUDGET AND TOTALLY COVERED, DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, UNDER THE E911 SURCHARGE. WITH THE LANDLINE AND PREPAID CELL PHONES. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? OKAY. HERE, TALKING REALLY QUICKLY BUT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT. IT IS THE BIGGEST CHUNK OF COURSE OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY OFFICE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE SOME HUNDRED 35 EMPLOYEES AND WE TALKED ABOUT PATROL OPERATIONS AND CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS AND GENERAL SERVICES. 735 EMPLOYEES OF FULL-TIME AND PART-TIME. YOU SEE THIS DOWN HERE, WE HAVE 236 EMPLOYEES. IT IS BROKEN OFF INTO THE BUDGET. THE 21 EMPLOYEES, 19 SWORN INTO CIVILIAN STAFF, ARE COVERED IN THE 2.6 REALLY DOLLAR BUDGET. WITH THAT COMMISSION, I MET WITH ALL OF YOU AND APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME THE COUNTY THE STRAIGHTER AND A LOT OF TIME WITH THE DIRECTOR, JESSE DONE. IT BREAKS DOWN EVERY EMPLOYEE BY THE BENEFITS AND TAXES AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. I APOLOGIZE TO YOU,

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I WILL SAY IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC. YOU NOW HAVE A COPY OF THAT THAT DIRECTOR DEAN HAS. HE PHYSICALLY HAS A CUP EXCESS BUT YOU AS OPPOSED TO FINDING THE BUDGET. DIRECTOR DUNN HAS A COPY OF THE BUDGET. I WILL LEAN ON MY LEFT SOLDIER -- SOLDIER HERE. THEY ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK. DID I MISS ANYTHING? I MISSED THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON BY THE WAY. WE BROUGHT A CFO ON AND SHE BECAME THE OFFICIAL CONTRACT OVER COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. THE CFO, SHARI, WE CANNOT DO THIS WITHOUT HER.

WITHOUT THE RELATIONSHIP SHE SHARES WITH THE COUNTY AND ALL THE NONPROFITS AND EXPERTISE SHE BRINGS WORKING AS A CFO TO THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE FOR SO MANY YEARS.

>> WITH THAT BEING SAID, MDM. CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, I'M OPENED UP FOR QUESTIONS.

>> I LIKE WE ARE GETTING KNOWN TO NOT WANTING PEOPLE TO GET INTO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY THAT ARE BAD. I LIKE THAT WE ARE SCARING PEOPLE. I WANT YOU TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW ABOUT ELABORATE. ELABORATE BRIEFLY ON THE REVENUE SOURCES. YOU DO HAVE THAT AS WELL AS HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU ALL VOLUNTEERING?

THAT IS IT. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THE REVENUE SOURCE WE HAVE WITH THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICTS. WE ARE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE SO FAR ADD -- THEY GAVE US A BUBBLE NOD WITH 5.17 -- THEY GAVE US A BUBBLE NOD WITH $5.17 MILLION. THE BIGGEST REVENUE SOURCE WE HAVE IS THE CONTRACT OF SERVICE WE HAD WITH THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE.

TAKING THE 911 SERVICES BACK WHEN THE CONTRACT EXPIRES. THE STAFF SAT DOWN BASED ON THE SERVICE INCLUDING THE ADMINISTRATIVE CALLS. WE ASKED FOR AN INCREASE WITH THE CITY OF SAN AUGUSTINE WOULD PAY WITH THE CONTRACTED 911 SERVICES RUN THROUGH THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SERVICE. $119,000 INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR BASED ON DEMAND. CALLS FOR SERVICE AND USE FOR -- IF THEY HAVE AN EVENT GOING ON. RESOURCES WE HAVE IS WE HAVE -- ASSIGNED TO THE FEDERAL AGENCIES. WE GET FULL REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE INTERCEPT TASK FORCE. IT IS A FEDERAL TASK FORCE WITH TRAFFICKING WITH CHILDREN WE STARTED WITH THE TIM TEBO FOUNDATION. AND WE HAVE SOME OF THE SMALL THINGS AS WELL AS A --. IT'LL BE ANOTHER REVENUE SOURCE GIVEN TO THE STATES THROUGH THE USE OF VICTIM ADVOCATES, SHARED BY ALL THREE AGENCIES AND ST. AUGUSTINE CITY AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT COMES THROUGH THE ATTY. GEN.'S OFFICE UP IN TALLAHASSEE. WE HAVE AUXILIARY THINGS COMING THROUGH. WE RUN A CBP OPERATION, HUMAN TRAFFICKING OPERATION. WE RUN AT LEAST ONE OR TWO A MONTH. 95 AND THE SIDE ROADS AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE GET SOME FUNDING BACK AND ASSISTANCE TO AS WELL. I DON'T WANT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ONUS. THE GOAL IS TO RETURN ANY EQUIPMENT THAT HAS HELD THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM ON LOAD TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BECAUSE THEY CAN TAKE IT BACK AT ANY TIME. THE EQUIPMENT IS OWNED BY THE PEOPLE SITTING BEHIND ME AND THOSE IN THEIR HOUSES TODAY, NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN WE PAY FOR THE FEDERAL PROPERTY, WE OWE NOTHING IN IT.

WE CAN GIVE IT BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. NEW PARTS AND MAINTENANCE WE PUT IS WHAT BELONGS TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THOSE OF THE REVENUE SOURCES. AS FAR AS REVENUE GOES, THIS IS OUR HOME LIKE IT IS YOURS. I WAS COACHING HERE FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS. I BROUGHT THE MENTALITY TO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY OFFICE. THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO ALL TWO. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE TO INVEST BACK IN THE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST BE HIDING BEHIND THE BADGES IN

UNIFORM. YES MA'AM? >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. WE ARE IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE BUDGET. SOMETHING THAT JUMPED OUT TO ME WHEN WE MET IS 20 WHEN YOU FTES. I WAS TOLD. MUCH OF IT WILL BE PATROLLED EACH DIVISION IS INVALUABLE AND IMPORTANT.

THE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT PART OF WHAT YOU DO WITH THE QUESTION I GET THE MOST AS A COMMISSIONER. EVERYBODY WANTS THEIR OWN TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT AND THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU AND I BOTH KNOW IT IS NOT POSSIBLE FINANCIALLY OR LOGISTICALLY.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE CHALLENGE AT THE OFFSET, 601 MI.÷ ST. JOHNS COUNTY WITH THE TRAFFIC ISSUES WE HAVE AND MANY

CHALLENGES THAT PRESUMES? >> THANK YOU. REAL QUICK. THERE IS A NATIONAL FORMULA OUT THERE. IF YOU SAY, HOW MANY PERSONNEL DO WE HAVE? THERE'S A FORMULA CALLED 1.2 DEPUTY SHERIFFS PER 1000 PEOPLE . I NEVER BELIEVE IN THAT FORMULA.

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WE BROUGHT SOMETHING YEARS AGO CALLED TECHNOLOGY-BASED POLICING , POLICING WITH REAL-TIME TECHNOLOGY. WE ADDED THIS TO THE ENFORCEMENT TECHNIQUE. AS IT BECAME MORE THIS YEAR, THEY'VE BEEN PROACTIVE AND PRODUCTIVE. THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING. IT MEANS WE ARE SAVING LIVES. IT IS NOT A POPULATION CONTEST, IT IS TO EDUCATE PEOPLE AND ENFORCE THE LAW , THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO GET HOME BECAUSE GETTING BEHIND THE WHEEL. WE WATCH THE TRAFFIC STUDY COURSES THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. OUR COMMUNITY KNOWS IT IS --. IT IS NOT THERE BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO HIDE FROM YOU BUT EDUCATE THE SAME TIME TO SEND THE TRAFFIC TO SEE WHO THE AGGRESSIVE DRIVERS ARE. IF I DON'T RECEIVE AN EMAIL OR TEXT MESSAGE ON A REGULAR BASIS OF BEING A PART OF THE COMMUNITY WITH AGGRESSIVE DRIVING AND SPEEDING, PUT THE -- OUT THERE. SOMEWHERE ON A SECURE LOCATION SECURED BY LOCKING DEVICE TO GET THIS THAT WE GET THE REAL-TIME STATS ON THE DATA BOX OF YOUR AREA AND WE KEEP IT UP THERE FOR TWO WEEKS. WE MONITORED THE REAL-TIME INTELLIGENCE CENTER, TRAFFIC CRASHES, AGGRESSIVE DRIVING COMPLAINT. THE DATA IS REAL AND TANGIBLE. AGAIN, IF I WERE TO TELL YOU THERE WAS A 50% DECREASE IN TRAFFIC CRASHES, PEOPLE SAY, THERE IS NO WAY THE DATA IS ON THE DASHBOARD FOR THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANS ROTATION. WE HAVE A BETTER RELATIONSHIP.

THE OTHER THING IS TO LISTEN SHIP THE FLORIDA PATROL AND CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE. THE DAY I TOLD THE CHIEF WE HAVE A SPEEDING PROBLEM THE INTEREST ON U.S. ONE. THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE TOOK THIS IN OUR OWN HANDS. IT IS THOSE PARTNERSHIPS AND RELATIONSHIPS DEALING WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND GROWTH.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEW U.S. CENSUS REPORT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, -- SAID YOU DROPPED DOWN BY FIVE AND HE IS NOW NUMBER ONE. WE ARE NUMBER FIVE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THE ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA IS GROWING AND DEALING WITH GROWTH. WHO DOESN'T WANT TO BE IN THE GREAT STATE OF FLORIDA?

>> COMMISSIONER --? >> THANK YOU, MDM. CHAIR. WE APPRECIATE YOU GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING AND I SUPPORT YOUR BUDGET AS WELL. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO IN OUR COMMUNITY AND CONTINUE TO KEEP US SAFE. I HAD A QUESTION AND I THOUGHT I SHOULD PROBABLY ASK YOU THIS WHEN WE HAD MET. I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOUR GRANT FUNDING. DO YOU RECEIVED GRANT FUNDING AND WHAT IS IT LOOK LIKE? ARE YOU ACTIVELY APPLYING FOR GRANTS AS TO WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?

>> LAW ENFORCEMENT IS A TOTAL BECAUSE WE ARE NOT OFFICIALLY CONSTRAINED AS A COUNTY. WERE NOT ONE OF THE SPECIAL FLORIDIANS THAT GET A LOT MORE MONEY. THEY GET BECAUSE THEY'RE PHYSICALLY CONSTRAINED. THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAS THE GRANTS PROGRAM FOR -- WHICH IS THE GRANTS PROGRAM. EVERY YEAR THE READJUST FIRE. IT HAS USUALLY ALWAYS BEEN HALF , 50% IS WHAT WE PAY FOR A LONG TIME. THE BODY ARMOR HAS GONE AROUND $500 NOTICE $2000 FOR BODY ARMOR. THE COVER HALF OF IT THROUGH A FEDERAL GRANT. WE ALSO GET MONEY FROM THE STONE GARDEN GRANT AND HAVE A PARTICULAR FUNCTION GOING ON.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GRANTS OUT THERE UNLESS IT IS PROJECT SPECIFIC. THAT IS ALL SHE DOES NOTHING BESIDES RESEARCH. A LOT OF GRANTS ARE NONRECURRING BESIDE THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE GRANT PROGRAM ABOUT THE ONLY ONE I HAVE SEEN REOCCURRING. ANY GRANTS ARE WAY AHEAD OF THAT. IT IS THE FELLOW SHERIFFS AND POLICE CHIEF TALKING SAYING ARE GRANTS OUT THERE. USUALLY EVERY YEAR, WE SPLIT UP WITH THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. AND CITY OF SAN AUGUSTINE BEACH. WE LOOK FOR ST. -- I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT FIGURES BUT I CAN GET WITH YOU

AND IT IS ALL PUBLIC RECORD >> THAT IS GREAT, THANK YOU, WE

APPRECIATE IT. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> SOMETHING I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT UNTIL IT WORKED CLOSELY OVER THE YEARS WITH THE BUDGET AND THE OFFICE IS CRIME DOES NOT RESPECT BOUNDARIES. RIGHT? WE GET FRIENDS FROM OTHER COUNTIES TO VISIT US, ET CETERA. MOST PEOPLE MAY NOT REALIZE OR KNOW SHERIFF HARDWICK HAS A VERY, VERY CLOSE PERSONAL AND UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL OF OUR SURROUNDING SHERIFFS. DEVOL, CLAY, PUTNAM, AND --. AND HE WORKS CLOSELY , HIS UNITS WERE CLOSELY ON THINGS, FRANKLY , THLIKE HUMAN TRAFFICKING. DRUGS. AND, HE IS A TEAM PLAYER. IF YOU LOOK BEHIND THE CURTAIN, A LOT GOES ON HE'S NOT

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IN A POSITION TO TELL US ABOUT HERE. SOME THINGS ARE NOT NECESSARILY TO BE ABOUT AS TIME IS SHORT. UNDERCOVER.

UNDERCOVER INVESTIGATIONS. I HAVE TO POINT IT OUT BECAUSE PEOPLE DO NOT REALIZE THAT HE GOES OUT OF HIS WAY TO HAVE THE PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH HIS FELLOW SHERIFFS THAT I APPRECIATE. HE ALSO RECENTLY I THINK IS ENGAGED ONE OF THE PEOPLE I HAVE A HUGE ADMIRATION FOR. ENGAGED NOW WITH PROFESSIONAL TRAINING AND LEADERSHIP TRAINING. AND HAVING 10 YEARS AS SHERIFF HERE. GETTING HIS PHD IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR BOSTON UNIVERSITY , THE PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT. I COULD NOT BE MORE PLEASED WITH THE ACTIONS THAT THE SHERIFF HAS TAKEN. AND HIS LEADERSHIP TEAM WHO I WORK WITH CLOSELY WITH. ALL THE TEAMS THERE.

THERE YOU GO. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN. I WANT TO SAY, GO UPON WHAT COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST SAID, EVERYBODY WANTS THE SHERIFF DEPUTY PATROLLING THE STREETS AND NEIGHBORHOODS UNTIL YOU START PULLING US OUT.

>> TO STATEMENT. YES MA'AM. >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE IN EVERYTHING YOU DO TO KEEP US SAFE AND YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT.

>> IF I WAS NOT CLEAR IF I CAN SAY ONE THING. THE BUDGET PRESENTATION GIVES INCREASES TO THE DEPUTY SHERIFF. IF THEY GET THE PAY INCREASE, THE ENTIRE AGENCY SHOULD GET A PAY INCREASE. IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE BECAUSE IT COMES WITH A LARGE PRICE TAG. BOTTOM LEVEL EMPLOYEES ARE GETTING SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS AND RETAIN NOW. HOW DO WE RETAIN? WE TOUCHED THE 5 TO 6 YEAR MARK OF ALL EMPLOYEES. AND THE TENURE 11 MARK THAT ACTUALLY WORK THAT OF BEEN HERE A LONG TIME FOR RETENTION. YOU'LL SEE IT IN THE BUDGET TO AS WELL. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MDM. CHAIR AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

>> THANK YOU SHERIFF HARDWICK. NEXT IS A PRESENTATION ON THE BUDGET REQUEST FOR THE CIRCUIT COURT COMPTROLLER. BRANDON PATTY IS ON MILITARY ACTIVATION. -- ANDERSON WILL BE PRESENTING FROM THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING, MDM. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS. I'M HERE WITH --, FILLING IN FOR CLARK PATTY AND HIS ABSENCE. I AM THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. AS I'M SURE YOU ARE AWARE, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? OUR COMBINED BUDGET INCLUDES THE FUNDING FOR MINUTES AND RECORDS. COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AND OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL. FISCAL YEAR, 25 BUDGET INCLUDES AN OPEN POSITION FOR A DIRECTIVE RECORDS MANAGEMENT TO HELP US FACILITATE GETTING THE PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST ANSWERED MORE EFFICIENTLY AND HELP LEAD IN THE DIGITIZATION PROJECT TO GET THE RECORDS DIGITIZED. INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET IS IN ERP POSITION, A TEMPORARY ONE, TO FACILITATE THE ERP DATA TRANSITION GOING INTO NEXT YEAR. THE BUDGET INCLUDES FINDINGS TO MATCH THE COUNTY COST-OF-LIVING ADJUSTMENT TRYING TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN THE BEST TALENT AS WELL AS THE 6% INCREASE IN THE INSURANCE COST. WE INVESTED IN A NEW SOFTWARE SYSTEM WHICH IS PAYMENT WORKS. ENHANCES THE PUBLIC SERVICE SAFEGUARDS THE ASSETS ALONG WITH EXPANDING THE RECORD STORAGE TO MEET THE RETENTION REQUIREMENTS JUST THE DATA SAVERS CONTRACT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? THE COURT SUBSIDY BUDGET SUPPLEMENTS FUNDING RECEIVED FROM THE STATE TO COVER THE COURT RELATED FUNCTIONS AND THE OPERATING COST. THE BUDGET IS LOOKING LIKE IT'LL COME IN PRETTY FLAT AGAIN THIS YEAR. WE WILL HOPEFULLY SEE IT AT SOME POINT GETS WHAT NEEDS TO BE. A PORTION ALSO AIDS IN THE INVESTMENT OF THE NEWLY FORMED CUSTOMER CARE CENTER. WHEN A PERSON CALLS INTO THE COURTHOUSE, THEY GET A LIVE BODY ON THE PHONE TO ASSIST THEM WITH THEIR QUESTION. IT IMPROVES THE STAFF PRODUCTIVITY WITHOUT HAVING TO ANSWER A BUNCH OF PHONE CALLS. WE ARE PROUD OF THE ENHANCEMENTS BEEN MADE TO BETTER SERVE THE COUNTY RESIDENTS AND WE APPRECIATE THE TEAM'S DEDICATION TO PROVIDING EXCEPTIONAL CUSTOMER SERVICE.

WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORTS. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER

JOSEPH? >> WHEN I LOOKED AT THE X1 OFFICE, YOU WERE UP 29%. IN THE COMPTROLLER COURT SUBSIDY. AND ALSO, 159% IN THE COMPTROLLER BUDGET. CONTRACTUAL SERVICES.

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IS IT BECAUSE OF THE $1 MILLION THAT WE LOST? THAT WE ADDED QUESTION MARK ADDED TO THE CONTRACT? THE ONE YOU

MENTIONED, PAYMENT WORKS? >> YES, THAT IS A PORTION OF IT. ANOTHER PORTION IS DATA SAVERS, THE OFFSITES TORCH

FACILITY. >> DID WE ADD ANYBODY TO WATCH --? THAT IS FOR THE MILLION DOLLARS? WE FIND HALF OF THAT?

OR NO? >> THAT PARTICULAR INCIDENT DID HAVE AN UPDATE HERE. WE HAD RECOVERED ON THE SECOND PAYMENT THAT WENT OUT WAS RECOVERED IN THE ENTIRETY. 612,400 $.89 . WE HAD RECOVERED TO DATE. 50,000 -- 50 -- 50/50,000 DOLLARS. THE INTERNAL INVESTIGATION TO SEE FOR CAN RECOVER SOMETHING FROM

THE FRAUD DEPARTMENT. >> THE ONLY OTHER BIG JUMP WAS IN ADVERTISING FOR THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE? I WAS CURIOUS WHAT IT WAS FOR IN THE COMMUNICATION PART. THAT IS IT,

THOUGH. >> THE ADVERTISING BUDGET DID GET REDUCED DOWN TO 15,000 AND WE HIRED THE NEW COMP DIRECTOR SHE WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING AND OMITTED SOMETHING SHE DID NOT WANT TO USE GOING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 25 SO WHAT WENT DOWN TO 15 SOMETHING SHE DID NOT WANT TO USE GOING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 25 SO WHAT WENT DOWN TO 15,000. IT INCLUDED SOME TAX BILL INSERTS.

AN AWARENESS CAMPAIGN WITH THE REGIONAL RECORDER AND CHAMBER ADVERTISEMENTS. THERE WERE VARIOUS MARKETING CAMPAIGNS FOR THE PASSPORT SATURDAYS AS WELL AS RADIO MEDIA SLOTS AND PRINT

AND DIGITAL ADVERTISING. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO

MUCH. >> FINALLY, A PRESENTATION BY PROPERTY APPRAISER ANDY KRAMER. HIS 25 REQUESTS. A NOTE AND I THINK I NOTED EVERY YEAR. PART OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER BUDGET REQUEST. THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY PRESENT THEIR BUDGETS. BUT SINCE EDDIE KRAMER HAS BEEN PROPERTY APPRAISER, HE HAS GRACIOUSLY COME UP EACH YEAR TO

PRESENT THE BUDGET PROCESS. >> THANK YOU, JESSE. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS AND GOOD MORNING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IN THE AUDITORIUM. AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE WE SUBMITTED THE JUNE 1 TAXABLE ESTIMATE TO THE TAXING AUTHORITY. WE HAVE SUBMITTED OUR 2024, 2025 BUDGET REQUEST. TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE.

SO, CHAIR ARNOLD, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I WOULD DO A SUMMARY OF THE TAX ROLE. AS WELL AS THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. 420 24, THE QUICK SUMMARY OF WHAT THE OFFICE DEALT WITH THIS YEAR, WE ASSESS 175,133 PARCELS , OF TAXABLE REAL ESTATE AND TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY IN THE COUNTY. OVER 126,000 OF THE PARCELS WERE RESIDENTIAL. 48,994 OF THE PARCELS ARE COMMERCIAL -- OUR COMMERCIALS. AND SOME OTHER ODD RESIDENTIAL PARCELS, 89,984 OF THOSE HAVE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

WE PROCESSED ABOUT 9000 NEW HOMES THAT HE EXEMPTION APPLICATIONS THIS YEAR. JUST MARKET VALUE OF THE ROLE SUBMITTED IS 82.9 THE ROLE SUBMITTED IS $82.9 BILLION AND THE TAXABLE VALUE IS $51.9 BILLION. THE BUDGET BREAKDOWN, THE TOTAL REQUEST THIS YEAR IS A $.6 MILLION. I WILL BREAK IT DOWN INTO COMPONENT PARTS. PERSONNEL SERVICES ARE 6 MILLION. PERSONNEL SERVICES THIS YEAR INCREASED 4.9%, 270 4.9%, $270,000. WE BUDGETED FOR THE FIRST TIME NEW POSITIONS.

WE BUDGETED THREE NEW POSITIONS. ONE IS A RESIDENTIAL FIELD APPRAISER AND ANOTHER IS THE TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY APPRAISER. THE THIRD ONE IS A COMMUNITY OUTREACH EDUCATION COORDINATOR THAT'LL EXPAND THE OFFICES OUTREACH INTO THE COMMUNITY. TO EDUCATE TAXPAYERS WITH A SPECIAL FOCUS ON LOW TO MODERATE INCOME AND SENIOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THE AVAILABILITY AND INITIAL EXEMPTIONS AND PROCESSES ON VALUES IN THAT. THE OPERATING EXPENSE REQUEST IS 1.6 MILLION THAT SHOWS THE LARGEST INCREASE. YEAR OVER YEAR, FORTUNE $5000 WITH PRIMARY DRIVERS INCREASE. EVERY

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TWO YEARS, WE DO STREET-LEVEL IMAGERY IN THE COUNTY. THAT WAS LAST DONE IN 2022. NOVEMBER 2024, WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE CYCLE MEDIA. THE HIGH-RESOLUTION STREET-LEVEL IMAGERY OF THE COUNTY. YOU'LL SEE THE VEHICLES BACK ON THE STREETS WERE. ABOUT FOUR WEEKS. IT'LL BE AVAILABLE TO THE OFFICE AND TO THE PUBLIC. TO THE FIRST PART OF NEXT YEAR.

THE SECOND PART OF THAT AS YOU ARE AWARE, IN THE BEGINNING OF 2022, WE BEGAN A CONVERSION OF THAT THEN 16-YEAR-OLD COMPUTER-ASSISTED MASS APPRAISAL SYSTEM TO A NEW SYSTEM. IT IS 18 YEARS OLD AND WE ARE ABOUT 85% COMPLETE WITH THE CONVERSION. WE ARE WORKING ON NOW. PART OF THE CONVERSION IS WE WILL REMOVE THE STORAGE AND PROCESSING EQUIPMENT OUT OF OUR LOCATION. AND TO THE AMAZON WEB SERVICES CLOUD. THERE'S AN ANNUAL COST RELATED TO THAT BUDGETED FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS YEAR. WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE SERVERS AND STORAGE DEVICES IN THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE BUILDING EXPOSED TO HURRICANES AND OTHER NATURAL DISASTERS. IT'LL BE SECURE IN THE CLOUD THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO WHATEVER THE STAFF CAN GO.

ON AN INTERNET CONNECTION THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE TAX ROLE WHICH WILL MAKE US TOTALLY REMOTE AND CAPABLE. THE THIRD PART WHICH I'M EXCITED ABOUT SOME PULMONARY EFFORTS WE STARTED AND ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH GOOGLE. AND C-3 AI. WHICH WE WILL BEGIN IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, USING OUR DATABASE AND OUR INFORMATION ON AGENTS OF PROPERTY, CONDITIONS AND SALES PRICES OF PROPERTY. ON AND ON AND ON COMBINED WITH C-3 AI INTELLIGENCE COMPANY AND GOOGLE. WE EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF USING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND LEARNING MACHINES TO HELP US IN THE ASSESSMENT PROCESS. AS A COUNTY CONTINUES TO GROW INTO 9000 PARCELS A YEAR WE DO NOT HAVE TO CONTINUE TO GROW WITH STAFFING AND EMPLOYEES TO DO THAT. IT IS A TEST PROJECT AND I HOPE I'M ABLE TO REPORT BACK TO YOU NEXT YEAR THAT HAS BEEN A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT FOR US. THE OTHER MAJOR PART OF THE BUDGET IS CAPITAL OUTLINE. CAPITAL OUTLAY WE REQUEST THIS YEAR. $724,946. THAT IS A DEFERRAL. WE ENTERED INTO THE CONTRACT WITH THE VENDOR'S ONE HALF YEARS AGO. THAT HAD PROGRESS PAYMENTS. THE PAYMENTS WERE BASED ON PERFORMANCE BY THE VENDOR. THE VENDOR LAST YEAR DID NOT PERFORM TO OUR STANDARDS. WE DID NOT PAY THE VENDOR. AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE WILL BE GIVING THE MONEY BACK TO THE COUNTY. WE BUDGETED THIS NEXT YEAR BECAUSE WE SUSPECT WE WILL BE GOING LIVE IN OCTOBER OF NEXT YEAR. THAT IS DEFERRING THE MONEY INTO THE NEXT YEAR. TO PAY THE VENDOR BE COMPLETE WITH THE PROJECT HOPEFULLY. THAT IS A SUMMARY OF THE BUDGET AND I WILL REQUEST THIS YEAR. ONCE THE REVENUE APPROVES THE BUDGET, WE POST THE DETAILED BUDGET AND ALL SCHEDULES ON OUR WEBSITE.

AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY TO LOOK AT, DOWNLOAD AND REVIEW. WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANY

COMMISSIONER HAS? >> THANK YOU, MR. KRAMER. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. >> AGAIN, THERE IS NO ACTION

[2. Presentation of the Boards and Committees 2023 Annual Reports. Boards Rules and Policies Rule 2.206 Requirements of Boards and Committees states: Each Board/Committee must submit an Annual Report to the Board of County Commissioners by April 1st indicating its activities and accomplishments for the previous calendar year. The report should include the mission statement of the Board/Committee, projections for the current calendar year and any other relevant information, such as the proposed budget. At the request of the Chair, Commissioner Arnold, I have been asked to present a snapshot of the annual reports to the Board, highlighting each board/committee's 2023 accomplishments. Presenter: Colin Groff, Deputy County Administrator District 5]

REQUIRED TODAY. THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE BUDGET REQUEST.

AS WE BRING THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET BACK TO THE COMMISSION

IN JULY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, MR. JOHN. IT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. MS. SPENCER? THERE WAS NO PUBLIC COMMENT OR ACTION TAKEN BY THE BOARD. MR. --, PLEASE SIT DOWN. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. HAPPY TO BE PART OF THE MOVING INSTEAD OF THE CREDITS TODAY. HOST OF THE TIME, I'M HERE AT THE VERY END. THIS IS THE BIGGEST AUDIENCE I HAVE EVER SEEN. I APOLOGIZE IF I'M NERVOUS THIS MORNING. I AM SURE WENT SPENCER, SENIOR ASSISTANT TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT TO YOU THE 2023 BOARDING COMMITTEE ANNUAL REPORTS. LET'S GET STARTED. I WILL TRY TO BE AS QUICK AS I CAN. THE BOARD'S RULES AND POLICY RULE 2.208, IT STATES

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EACH BOARD AND COMMITTEE MUST SUBMIT AN ANNUAL REPORT TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BY APRIL 1 INDICATING ACTIVITIES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR. THEY DID DO THIS. THE REPORTS ARE VERY LONG IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL AS TO THE PUBLIC AND AVAILABLE ON THE FULL SITE. WITH THAT, THERE ARE 20 BOARDS AND COMMITTEES. WE HAVE 140 MEMBERS ALL OF WHOM VOLUNTEER COUNTLESS HOURS OF TIME DEDICATED TO MAKING ST.

JOHNS COUNTY AN AMAZING PLACE TO LIVE. STAFF SUPPORTS. IT INCLUDES MYSELF AS THE PCC LIAISON AND 16 ST. JOHNS COUNTY STAFF MEMBERS AND ATTORNEY. I INVITED THE 16 STAFF MEMBERS HERE IN CASE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS. NOT TO MENTION I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEM. THEY ARE AN INVALUABLE HELP TO ME AND WORKED BETWEEN MYSELF AND THE VOLUNTEER TO HELP COURTNEY MEETINGS AND AGENDAS AND APPOINTMENTS. SHOULD WE GO.

FIRST IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE. ALSO KNOWN AS --. THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMITTEE IS TO RECOMMEND HOUSING STRATEGIES TO INCENTIVIZE PRODUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH ARE SUBMITTED ANNUALLY TO THE LOCAL ELECTED BODY FOR APPROVAL. UPON ADOPTION, THE ACCOMMODATIONS CAN BE PART OF THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN IMPLEMENT IT BY THE COUNTY.

MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR THEM ARE THEY SUPPORTED AND ENCOURAGED DEVELOPMENT OF MORE THAN 280 AFFORDABLE UNITS. THEY PROVIDED A PLATFORM FOR EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELD TO INFORM AND ADVOCATE ON TOPICS LIKE COMMUNITY LAND TRUCK, IMPACT FEE DEFERRAL, AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES, ALL IN THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE TO NAME JUST A FEW. NEXT IS THE CONSTRUCTION BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEAL. IT IS TO ARBITRATE APPEALS AND DECISIONS AND INTERPRETATIONS MADE BY THE BUILDING OFFICIALS. THEY EVALUATE THE APPLICATION FOR ANY PARTICULAR CASE THE ENFORCEMENT WOULD MANIFEST INJUSTICE AND CONTRARY TO THE SPIRIT AND PURPOSE OF THE TECHNICAL CODE OF PUBLIC INTEREST. THEY INCLUDE THE BOARD HEARD AND UPHELD THE ABATEMENT CODE ON 27 CASES THIS YEAR AND PARTICIPATED IN THE DRAFTING AND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE LIEN RELIEF PRODUCTION ORDINANCE. NEXT IS A CONTRACT REVIEW BOARD AND PURPOSE OF THIS BOARD TO ENSURE PROPER ADMINISTRATION OF CONTRACT LICENSING AND DISCIPLINE OF LICENSING. THE REVIEW BOARD PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES TO PROVIDE QUALIFIED TRADE WORKERS TO THE CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY BY UPHOLDING CONTRACTOR LICENSING REQUIREMENTS TO ENSURE PUBLIC SAFETY WITHIN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY. THEY INCLUDE 103 CONTRACTOR AND JEN NEWMAN LICENSES APPROVED BY THE CRP 1175 LOCAL LICENSES THAT WERE RENEWED. ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING THEY DO IS LISTEN TO COMPLAINTS. 500 COMPLAINTS WERE HANDLED BY STAFF IN 2023 WHICH RESULTED IN SEVEN DISCIPLINARY USES. THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCIES NEXT ALSO KNOWN AS --. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS ONE. THEY SERVE AS THE COUNTY LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY AND ADVISORY RECOMMENDED BODY TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WITH LAND-USE RECOGNITION AND ALIGNMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY. THERE ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN 2023 INCLUDE HOLDING 23 PUBLIC HATE -- 23 PUBLIC HEARINGS WITH THE FINAL ACTIONS ON 84 APPLICATIONS AND 59 RECOMMENDATIONS. NEXT WE HAVE THE ZONING ADJUSTMENT BOARD. THE PURPOSE IS TO REVIEW AND TAKE FINAL ACTION OR MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BCC ON APPLICATIONS WITH THE ZONING DISTRICT REGULATION. THEIR COMPASS MEDS INCLUDE HOLDING SIX PUBLIC HEARINGS DURING THE CALENDAR YEAR THE TOTAL CASELOAD OF 21 APPLICATIONS.

FINAL ACTION ON 15 APPLICATIONS AND MADE SIX RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD. NEXT IS THE COASTAL OVERLAY. THERE ARE FOUR COASTAL OVERLAYS. THE MISSION OF THE BOARD IS TO ENHANCE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT WHILE MAINTAINING AND ENCOURAGING QUALITY CHARACTER WITHIN EACH OVERLAY DISTRICT. I'LL GIVE YOU HIGHLIGHTS OF EACH ONE. THE FIRST ONE IS THE PALM VALLEY ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER 25 APPLICATIONS.

SEVERAL OF WHICH CONTAINED MULTIPLE REQUESTS. THE NEXT IS THE NORTH COASTAL RESIGN -- DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. THEY CONSIDER FOUR APPLICATIONS AND NEW CONSTRUCTION APPLICATIONS INCLUDED MIXED-USE, AND THE -- BEACH TOWN HOME. THE FINAL TWO

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ARE THE MID-AND STAGE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD THAT HELD PUBLIC MEETINGS CONSIDERING APPLICATIONS FOR BUILDING SIGNAGE. LAST IS THE SOUTH ANASTACIA DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WITH TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS CONSIDERING TO DESIGN APPLICATIONS. THE SECOND APPROVAL WAS FOR THE NEW PATIO DECK OF THE SANDBAR. OKAY. I'M GETTING INTO MY GROOVE. NEXT ONE IS THE LAND ACQUISITION MANAGEMENT PROGRAM WHICH YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH ALSO KNOWN AS --. ACQUISITION AND CONSERVATION AND PURPOSE OF THE BOARD IS ACQUISITION CONSERVATION OF ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE ARCHAEOLOGICAL , HISTORICAL RECREATIONAL LAND TO PRESERVE PROTECT AND INTERPRET NATURAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCES AND PROVIDE THE CUSTOMER CREATION OPPORTUNITIES FOR ST. JOHN COUNTY RESIDENTS AND ITS VISITORS. THEIR COMPASS MEANT IN 2023 INCLUDE PROPERTIES WHICH WERE EVALUATED AND THE TOP FIVE RECOMMENDED PROPERTIES WERE PRESENTED TO THE BCC IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR. HERE'S A LIST OF THE FIVE. THE BOARD'S APPROVAL OF 2023 PROPERTY RECOMMENDATION HAS BEGUN. PROCESS OF LAND ACQUISITION WAS MADE TO APPLY FOR THE PROGRAM. THE 50 ACRE ANASTACIA FISH ALMOND SALT MARSH PROPERTY IS THE FIRST OF MANY PROPERTIES THAT'LL EVENTUALLY BE REQUIRED IN THE PROGRAM. THE CULTURAL RESOURCE REVIEW BOARD. THE CRR BECOME ESTABLISHED TO ADVISE THE BOARD OF PANIC COMMISSIONERS REGARDING CULTURAL, HISTORIC AND ECOLOGICAL RESOURCES INCLUDING THE IDENTIFICATION , VALUATION , DOCUMENTATION AND DESIGNATION SAID SOURCES. THEY HAD A LOT OF COMPASS MEDS IN 2023. I KNOW WHAT IS IN STORE FOR THEM FOR 2024 AND IT IS QUITE IMPRESSIVE. THEY REVIEWED AND IMPROVED THE FIRST EXCEPTION ORDINANCE APPLICATION. IDENTIFIED SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES INCLUDING HALEY'S COURTSIDE, THE 301 AND 316 MAIN ST. IN HASTINGS, THIS NIGHTLY. THEY REVIEWED THE FIRST LANDMARK APPLICATIONS IN 2019 APPROVED THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IN 2018 AND PARTICIPATED IN THE REVEALING OF THE DEMO HASTINGS SURVEY AND LIBRARY. THE HOUSING FINANCE AUTHORITY. ALSO KNOWN AS THE HSA WAS ESTABLISHED FOR THE PURPOSE OF ALLEVIATING SHORTAGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FOR INVESTMENT FOR LOW, MODERATE AND MIDDLE INCOME FAMILIES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE PARTNER TO PROVIDE CAPITAL CONSTRUCT 2028 AFFORDABLE MULTIFAMILY UNITS AND FAMILIES AS WELL AS REHABILITATE HUNDRED AND 64 AFFORDABLE UNITS. THE HFA CONTINUES TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO UTILIZE ALLOCATIONS AND OTHER RESOURCES AND FINANCES AND ATTAINABLE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. I THINK WE ARE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH. NO, I'M JUST KIDDING, I'M JUST KIDDING. HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL. THE PURPOSE IS TO EVALUATE HUMAN SERVICES PROGRAMS AND ASSISTANCE DETERMINING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF PROGRAMS TO HELP REDUCE DUPLICATION AND ENSURE THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES NEEDS ARE MET. THEY REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND REQUEST COUNTY FUNDING FOR PROGRAMS TO PROVIDE HEALTH, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, SOCIAL SERVICES AND SUBMIT RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BCC. THE MAJOR COMPASS MEANT IN 2023 INCLUDE FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF OVER $2 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 WHICH WAS DETERMINED BY AN RFP PROCESS IN FISCAL YEAR 22 FOR THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES INDEPENDENT AGENCY PROGRAM. THROUGH THE GENERAL MEETINGS, THEY PROVIDED A PLATFORM IN THE RESPECTIVE FIELDS TO EDUCATE AND INFORM THE PROGRAMS WITH HOMELESSNESS, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, RECIDIVISM, AND OTHER HEALTH AND SOCIAL ISSUES. NEXT IS THE IDEA , THE DESTRUCTIBLE AUTHORITY KNOWN AS THE I.D.A. THE PURPOSE OF THE I.D.A. TO STAY MIGHT ECONOMIC AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THE USE OF PUBLIC FINANCING. ITS OWN EFFORTS AND THE SUPPORT OF OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS. THE MAJOR COMPASS MEANT IN 2023 INCLUDE ASSISTING IN FUNDING THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROJECT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY THAT LAUNCHED IN MAY 2023 WE ARE AT THE ONE YEAR MARK OF HAVING THE NEW BRAND. THEY FUNDED TICKETS TO ASSIST WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT WORK EFFORTS.

SHARE UPDATES AT MEETINGS, INCLUDING ROBERT OLSON OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY AIRPORT AUTHORITY. BRETT WEILER AND THOMAS P MILLER ASSOCIATES AND CARL. AND THEN WE HAVE THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. LIBRARY IS ONE OF MY PASSIONS. THE ADVISORY BOARD ADVISES THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON THE ESTABLISHMENT, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF A PRE-PUBLIC LIBRARY SYSTEM. THEY MEET EDUCATIONAL INFORMATION RECREATIONAL CULTURAL NEEDS OF THE PUBLIC. THE MAJOR COMPASS

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MEANT IN 2023 INCLUDE SUPPORTING THE PUBLIC LIBRARY SYSTEM. APPEARING A BUDGET HEARINGS AND BCC MEETINGS.

ADVOCATING FOR THE BUDGET REQUEST AND PROPOSE NEW LABOR WITH HASTINGS AND --. THEY EDUCATED ON BEHALF OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARY SYSTEM WITH THE PRIORITY OF ADDITIONAL STAFFING IF WE ALL REMEMBER, TO EXPAND LIBRARY SERVICES. IT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. I LOVE GOING TO THE LIBRARY ON SUNDAY.

WE HAVE THE NORTHWEST COMMUNICATIONS ADVISORY BOARD.

TO REVIEW THE PROPOSAL OF EXPENDITURE INCOME DERIVED FROM --. IF YOU DON'T KNOW, THIS IS UP IN DISTRICT ONE. IN THE ARLINGTON CREEK AREA. MAJOR COMPASS MEDS. THEY DID MEET THREE TIMES IN 2023. THIS BOARD SUPPORTS EACH YEAR WITH A DONATION. THE NEXT BOARD IS RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. THE BOARD PLAYS A KEY ROLE IN ADVISING ON RELATED PARTS AND RECORD REFLECTING THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS. THEY RECOMMENDED 250,000 IN GRANT FUNDING FOR 21 APPLICATIONS.

THEY HAD IN AN EFFORT TO STREAMLINE THE APPLICATION REVIEW PROCESS. THEY MOVED TO A BIANNUAL EVALUATION AND APPROVAL CYCLE. IT ALLOWS THE GRANT REQUEST TO BE EXAMINED WITH EXTREME EFFICIENCY. THEY ENCOURAGE APPLICATION TO BRING NEW AND DIVERSE ACTIVITIES TO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO ENHANCE THE LIVES OF OUR RESIDENTS AND TO CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY. LAST BUT NOT LEAST. TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. THE PURPOSE IS TO STRENGTHEN AND GROW THE TOURISM ECONOMY BY CREATING AND MAINTAINING AWARENESS THAT PROMOTES DISTINCTIVE EXPERIENCES OF EVER PROVEN QUALITY AND FACILITATING COUNTYWIDE TOURISM AND PLANNING. THE MAJOR COMPASS MEDS INCLUDE REVIEWING THE APPROVAL FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET AND THE ANIMAL PROMOTION PLAN FOR THE BCB AND THE ST. JOHN COUNTY CULTURAL COUNCIL.

THEY REVIEWED AND APPROVED SPORTS TOURISM GRANT NEARING 300,000 WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON FISCAL YEAR, 24 , ARTS, CULTURE AND HERITAGE GRANT PROGRAM PROVIDING WHAT AND 616 FUNDING FOR THE EVENTS AND PROGRAMS. ENHANCED FUNDING FOR THE -- ANNUAL EVENT. IF ANYBODY HAS EVER GONE THERE, IT IS REALLY GREAT TIME. THAT ENDS MY PRESENTATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. I DID INVITE THE STAFF LIAISON HERE THAT MAY BE BETTER ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS WITH WHAT HAPPENS IN THE IMMEDIATE BOARD. WITH THAT, BY AND BY PRESENTATION UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AS TO

>> ANKA, MS. SPENCER. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MS. SPENCER FOR COMING HERE TO HIGHLIGHT THIS. IT IS GREAT TO SEE THE STAFF LIAISON HERE AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. WE APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS THAT SERVE ON THIS BOARD. IT IS A GREAT WAY TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AND ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC WITH MANY DIFFERENT

[3. Pavo, LLC Economic Development Incentive Request. The St. Johns County Economic Development Agency has received an application from Pavo, LLC for economic development incentives to develop a total of 22,680 square feet of speculative industrial/office space located near the intersection of I-95 and International Golf Parkway. The project scored 5 points under the speculative space category of the County’s Business Incentive Program, which makes it eligible for expedited permitting and an economic development incentive of up to 100% of fees paid to the County by the Applicant (impact fees and water/sewer connection fees) and four years ad valorem taxes paid by the Applicant (general County portion) on capital improvements. Completion of the project is anticipated by the third quarter of 2025. With this schedule, the first annual incentive payment would be anticipated during FY27. The total estimated value of the incentive is $107,224. In accordance with Program requirements, the Agency is required to review the application and make a written report to the Board of County Commissioners. Staff recommends support of this incentive application. This item was originally heard at the May 21, 2024 Regular BCC meeting and asked to be brought back to the board when the applicant could be present. The applicant, John Bogart, is available and attending the June 4, 2024 Regular BCC meeting. Presenter: Kevin Ledbetter, Senior Engineer]

WAYS TO BE INVOLVED. COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> I THOUGHT EVERYBODY HERE THOUGHT SHE DID OUR SCHEDULES

AND ENTERED OUR PHONE CALLS. >> MUCH MORE THAN THAT. FOR THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. TO THANK YOU, MS. SPENCER. IT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.

>> GOOD MORNING. TO THE BEAUTY COUNTY, ADMINISTRATOR. I WILL BE BRIEF BECAUSE WE PRESENTED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING. THE OWNER COULD NOT BE HERE UNFORTUNATELY BUT HE'S HERE TODAY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I WILL GO BRIEFLY THROUGH THIS AND LET HIM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM.

FOR THE 22,000 FT.÷ SPECULATIVE INDUSTRIAL OFFICE SPACE. IN THE IDP AREA INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY. EAST, SOUTHEAST, ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF 95 AND ITP. IT IS ESTIMATED TO COMPLETE ABOUT THE THIRD QUARTER OF 25. THE TOTAL INVESTMENT OF $5 MILLION. THAT IS A MAP OF WHERE IT IS. IN THE COMMERCIAL PARK IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. OF THE INTERCHANGE. THE SCORING FOR THE PROJECT THIS FIVE POINTS.

SPECULATIVE SPACE DOES NOT GIVE POINTS FOR EMPLOYMENT. THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS. THE IDEA IS TO BUILD A SPACE IN THE COMPANIES CAN COME IN. WE DO HAVE STILL A SHORTAGE OF THIS KIND OF SPACE IN THE COUNTY. ALMOST ZERO VACANCY RATE FOR THIS TYPE SPACE. SPECULATIVE NATURE WILL FILL OUT VERY QUICKLY. TWO POINTS FOR THE FACILITY SIDE AND FOR THE TYPE.

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BECAUSE IT IS COMMERCIAL IT IS NOT PUTTING THE IMPACT ON SCHOOLS TO GET A POINT FOR THAT. THE RECOMMENDED INCENTIVES ARE $170,000 ON A COMPLETE 20 OR PAYMENT TO THE COUNTY OF ALMOST $1.3 MILLION. IT IS ABOUT ANY .3% REIMBURSEMENT. THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM AND NOT A GRAND PROGRAM. THEY PERFORM AND PAY ALL OF THEIR TAXES AND THEIR CONNECTION FEES AND IMPACT FEES AND REBATED AT THE END OF THE PERFORMANCE. A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THOSE FEES. THEY HAVE EXPEDITED PERMIT THAT WE DO FOR THEM. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN. IF YOU WOULD LOVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT THINK YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER DUNN? >> TO BE CLEAR? COLIN? TO BE CLEAR, THE QUESTION IS THIS PARTICULAR USE IS ALREADY ZONED. THIS IS FOR ECONOMIC INCENTIVE PACKAGE AND DOES IT INCLUDE ANY REZONING VARIANCE AND IMPROVEMENTS FROM A

LAND-USE STANDPOINT? >> IT IS ZONED WITH A LAND-USE.

>> IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I WANT TO PUT IT UP FRONT, THANK

YOU. >> ALL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ARE

IN PLACE FOR THIS . >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? FOR I APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN AND I'M MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROJECT AND I'M GLAD YOU CAME IN AND TOLD US WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE. MANY THE PUBLIC WILL LIKE TO HEAR HOW YOU WILL BUILD IT OUT. THANK YOU. TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> WHAT WE ARE DOING IS, AS COLIN SAID, IDEALLY, I CALL IT UPSCALE OFFICE WITH THE ABILITY TO PUT A SMALL WAREHOUSE PORTION IN THE BACK WITH THE ROLL UP DOOR. THE CONCEPT IDEALLY IS FOR SOMEBODY THAT WANTS AN OPEN CONCEPT OFFICE.

MAYBE A SHOW ROOM AND A MEETING IN PLACE HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY INSTEAD OF GOING UP TO THE BIG MEADOWS. UP TO ST.

JOHN'S TOWNCENTER. THERE SEEMS TO BE A LACK OF THAT CURRENTLY.

AT LEAST I THINK IT IS A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR US AND GOOD FOR THE COUNTY. IF YOU SIGN UP AS BEFORE, THERE ARE 20,000 MORE PEOPLE HERE THAN LAST YEAR. MY GUESS IT'LL BE ABOUT THE SAME THIS COMING YEAR. PEOPLE PREFER TO WORK HERE THAT OF DRIVING OF THE COUNTY. TO YOU ARE ON SITE? THE INCENTIVE DID NOT INCLUDE

EMPLOYEES? >> IT IS NOT INCLUDED AT ALL.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTION?

>> PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE. IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD COME STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

>> WE ACTUALLY GET TO SPEAK NOW?

>> AT SLAVEN.COM. THE QUESTIONS I RAISED AT THE LAST MEETING HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED. THE GENTLEMAN DID NOT GIVE HIS NAME . THERE HAS BEEN NO BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION. SHE WOULD NOT HIRE SOMEBODY TO PICK UP TRASH ALONG OUR ROADWAYS. WITHOUT A BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION. BUT WE ARE DOLING OUT MONEY TO CORPORATIONS WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE KNOW YOUR CUSTOMER RULE? 100 -- $107,224 AND INCENTIVES? TO BUILD A SPECULATIVE WAREHOUSE FOR AN LLC THAT DID NOT EVEN EXIST UNTIL HALLOWEEN? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? IS THAT THE BEST USE OF OUR TAX MONEY? THIS IS WRONG. PLEASE VOTE THIS DOWN. PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT I ASK YOU TO ASK AT THE LAST MEETING. WHO WAS THIS COMPANY AND WHO OWNS IT? IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAPERWORK IN YOUR CURRENT AGENDA PACKET, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNTY POSES , THE ANSWERS ARE BLANK. BLANK! NO BOX IS CHECKED. THE LACK OF THOROUGHNESS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY GOVERNMENT.

THERE IS A LACK OF DUE RELIGIONS IN INVESTIGATING ANY CORPORATION THAT WANTS TO DEAL WITH US. WHETHER IT IS GETTING A ZONING FAVOR OR AN INCENTIVE. THE NAME OF THE LLC IS PABLO LLC. AS I EXPLAINED LAST TIME, IF YOU DID NOT KNOW. WELL , CRISPIN KNEW. IT MEANS TURKEY IN SPANISH. THIS IS A KIND OF TURKEY THAT IS CONSTANTLY COMING UP IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY COMMISSION WITHOUT ADEQUATE BACKUP AND WITHOUT ADEQUATE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE QUESTIONS ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS EVEN BEEN ANSWERED. CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME THAT THIS IS THE BEST USE OF $175,000 ? HAVE YOU HAD ANY X MEETINGS WITH THIS

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DEVELOPER? DO WE EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE? WE FIND OUT THEY ARE A WYOMING CORPORATION THAT MAY BE AFFILIATED WITH A TRUCKING COMPANY? WHY DOESN'T YOUR STAFF EVER DO ANY SPEED WORK FOR YOU ON THE SO-CALLED INCENTIVE PACKAGES? YOU HAVE AN ADEQUATE STAFF AND AN ADEQUATE STAFF WORK ON SO-CALLED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. MEANWHILE, THE ROADS ARE OVERCROWDED AND SCHOOLS ARE OVERCROWDED. PEOPLE ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE WAY THIS BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS OPERATING. AND YET, YOU SEEM TO BE INSENSITIVE TO PUBLIC CONCERNS. EARLIER THIS MORNING, WE HAD A PRESENTATION BY SOME OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS ON THEIR BUDGET AND YOU WOULD NOT LET ME SPEAK. THAT WAS RUDE. IN THE PAST, WE ALWAYS ALLOWED PUBLIC COMMENT ON A CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS BUDGET.

YOU ARE ILL-ADVISED, MISGUIDED AND INSENSITIVE TO THE PUBLIC RIGHTS TO THE FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTED ACTIVITY. TO PROTECT EMPLOYEES WHEN THEY ARE BEING HARASSED BY MANAGEMENT AND IT NEEDS TO CHANGE. ONE-PARTY RULE IS WRONG, THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING. CHARLIE HUNT, WILL CREEK ESTATES. THAT IS WHAT MY QUESTION IS ALSO. IT'LL BE A WAREHOUSE PUT UP THERE , AND WILL GO IN ITS? IS THERE ANY ADULT BOOKSTORES THAT WILL BE OUT THERE? VAPING SHOPS OUT THERE? WILL THEY BE DISTRIBUTING VAPING OR OTHER TYPES OF PARAPHERNALIA LIKE THAT? IT IS LISTED IN ALL THE LISTINGS IN IT. IT'LL BE A VERY BIG ASSORTMENT OF DISTRIBUTION OR CARRYING IN IT.

WHAT'LL BE OUT THERE? I KNOW HOW EASY IT IS TO SAY, WE WILL PUT THE BIG WAREHOUSE BUT WE WILL FIGURE OUT WHAT GOES IN IT. WHETHER IT IS FEASIBLE OR WE WILL TELL YOU WHEN WE GET READY TO DO IT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU WE WILL BE USING IT WITHIN THE FACILITY BREAKING IT DOWN TO OTHER TYPES OF UNITS INSIDE OF IT. OKAY? YEAH. MAYBE THAT IS WHAT NEEDS

TO HAPPEN. THANK YOU. >> AT THE OVERHEAD, PLEASE?

>> -- 1748, NORTH APPAREL. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ON WHO PABLO REALLY IS. IS IT IN LSC -- IS IT AN LLC OR ONE OF 32 COMPANIES OR, WHO REALLY OWNS IT? A FOREIGN COMPANY? SOMEBODY WHO MAY POSSIBLY BE FROM CHINA? DO WE REALLY KNOW WHO PAVO OWNERS REALLY ARE? THIS IS OUT OF THE CORPORATE WIKI. THERE ARE SO MANY COMPANIES USING THAT NAME AND USE IT IN OTHER STATES. SO PLEASE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WHO WE ARE SUPPORTING, ESPECIALLY IF IT IS A FOREIGN COUNTRY. THANK YOU.

>> ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> DO YOU WANT TO COME AND ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS,

PLEASE? >> THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY WAY I WAS AT THE LAST MEETING. I WAS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE AND ONE OF MY FRIENDS WAS PASSED AWAY AND I WAS CALLED OUT OF TOWN FOR HIS COMMEMORATION OF LIFE. I AM THE OWNER WITH 100% OF THE MONEY. I LIVE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WITH MY WIFE AND MY DOG. I'VE LIVED HERE SINCE 2021.

THERE IS NO FOREIGN MONEY UNLESS YOU CONSIDER NORTHEAST AND ST. JOHN'S COUNTY A FOREIGN ENTITY. REGARDING THIS, IT COMES FROM LATIN. IT EVOLVED INTO SPANISH AND IT MEANS PEACOCK. IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT A TURKEY, I HOPE IT IS NOT A TURKEY AND A PEACOCK. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND APPRECIATE EVERYBODY LOVING FREE SPEECH HERE. IT IS A

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WELCOME THING . THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. FOR THANK YOU, MDM. CHAIR. YOU KNOW. I WANT TO ASK MR. -- TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD IN PUBLIC COMMENTS. THERE'S THIS IDEA OUT THERE THAT WE ARE TAKING 107,000 EXISTING TAX DOLLARS FROM OUR RESIDENTS. TO PAY A CORPORATION TO COME HERE. CAN YOU PLEASE

ADDRESS THAT COMMON? >> THAT IS NOT THE WAY THE PROGRAM WORKS. IT WORKS ON A SERIES OF REBATES. THE PROPERTY TAXES COUNTY IN PART ONLY CONNECTION FEES AND IMPACT FEES. IT IS A PORTION. WE LOOK AT A 20 YEAR CYCLE. IT IS ESTIMATED BASED ON THE VALUE OF THE BUSINESS AND INVESTMENTS.

IT'LL PAY ABOUT 1.3 MILLION OVER 20 YEARS TO THE COUNTY.

ONCE THEY FINISH THE BUSINESS, ÚIT HAS A CO OVER A FOUR-YEAR PERIOD THAT THEY WILL RECEIVE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. REBATES ON THE TAXES THEY WILL PAY. IT IS NOT MONEY COMING OUT. IT IS MONEY THEY PAY AND GET BACK OUT. WE DO A CALCULATION OF THAT RETURN ON INVESTMENT. ABOUT A .5%. WHAT THE BUSINESS IS GOING TO PAY THE COUNTY WHEN WE GET BACK TO REBATES TO INCENTIVIZE THEM TO DEVELOP THE FULL KIND OF SPACE NEEDED IN THE COUNTY TO DEVELOP NEW BUSINESSES IN THE COUNTY. FOR THANK YOU. THE 1.292 MILLION-DOLLAR PROJECTED 20

YEAR TAX PAYMENT TO THE COUNTY. >> FROM THEIR DOLLARS, THEY WERE OFFERING A REBATE OF HUNDRED AND 70,000. 1.8 NET TO

THE COUNTY. >> YOU ARE ASKING ME TO DO MATH IN MY HEAD. THAT'S CORRECT. I'M NOT AN ENGINEER BUT I CAN'T DO MATH IN MY HEAD THAT QUICK.

>> I WILL SAY ROUGHLY. LET'S SAY THIS IS AN EXAMPLE I WOULD GIVE. WITH TWO MORE YEARS WITH THE VACANT PROPERTY, THAT IS A GREATER AMOUNT OF MONEY THE COUNTY WILL NOT RECEIVE THAN WHAT WE ARE PAYING BACK. ABOUT A YEAR AND HALF. THE REASON WE DO IT IS BECAUSE WE WANT THE BUSINESS INSTABILITY NOW TO GET OVER THE 20 YEARS THE RESIDUAL REVENUE PROPERTY TAX. WHICH IS

GOOD FOR THE COUNTY. >> FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE BOARD. JUST MY THOUGHTS. AS I MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING.

I EVALUATE THIS AS A BUSINESS PROPOSAL AND DEAL. THE ONLY CONCERN I HAD LAST TIME WHICH I THINK WE ALL HAD IS WE DO NOT KNOW WHO WE WERE DOING BUSINESS WITH. HE'S A ST. JOHN'S COUNTY RESIDENT AND I WILL SUPPORT THIS BUSINESS DEAL.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION BUT I WANT TO OFFER A COUPLE COMMENTS OR BY MAY. I MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC'S AND OFFENSE, IT IS VERY GOOD TO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT AS WE DID TODAY BECAUSE IT RAISES QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO ANSWER AND STAND HERE AND BE CLEAR IN OUR ANSWERS AND BE TOTALLY TRANSPARENT. THAT IS WHAT WE ALL TRY TO DO. ON TWO POINTS, I WANT TO SAY THIS I MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING. I HAVE FOLLOWED OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. I NOTED AT THE LAST MEETING, THE RATIO OF RESIDENTIAL ROOFTOPS TO BUSINESS FROM A TAX REVENUE STANDPOINT. IN THIS COUNTY. 90% RESIDENTIAL ROOFTOPS. 10% BUSINESS. THAT'S WAS THE NUMBER ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO. WE SHIFTED THAT A LITTLE BIT. I SAY 8515 TODAY BUT MY POINT IS, THERE IS A REASON WE IMPLEMENTED ECONOMIC INCENTIVES FOR THE BUSINESSES. THE STATE AVERAGE IS 65% RESIDENTIAL. 35% BUSINESS. WE WERE AT NINE AND 10. THE RESIDENTS AND HOMEOWNERS AND RESIDENTIAL TAXPAYERS HAVE BEEN CARRYING AN INITIAL HEAVY BURDEN RELATIVE TO OTHER COUNTIES WITH BETTER BUSINESS ACTIVITIES. MORE BUSINESS ACTIVITIES IN THEIR COUNTIES. ALL THE BUSINESS ACTIVITIES I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS HAVE BEEN CLEAN INDUSTRY AND GOOD INDUSTRY AND FINANCIAL SERVICES NOT TO MENTION MEDICAL CLINICS AND HOSPITALS THAT WE CELEBRATED IN THE LAST YEAR. TO BE CLEAR, I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE INVENTED LAST MONTH TO COME UP WITH AN ECONOMIC INCENTIVE PROGRAM JUST BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT SOUNDED GOOD. I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR EIGHT YEARS AND PROMOTING IT. I'M GOING TO BE ON THE RECORD.

THERE IS A SPECIFIC LEGAL DEFINITION OF -- -- EX PARTE COMMUNICATION. FOR THOSE MEETINGS THAT ARE HAD BETWEEN

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TWO PARTIES INVOLVED IN A QUASIJUDICIAL PROCEEDING. THIS IS NOT A QUASIJUDICIAL PROCEEDING. THERE IS NO EX PARTE MEETING. JUST TO BE CLEAR. WITH THAT SAID, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. THIS IS DISTRICT FIVE.

>> BY ALL MEANS. TO MOTION TO INSTRUCT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT AN INCENTIVE AGREEMENT FOR THE LLC FOR THE PROPOSED

[4. Adoption Hearing for COMPAMD 2024-01, a Comprehensive Plan Amendment to amend the Comprehensive Plan Goals, Objectives and Policies to comply with Section 163.3177, Florida Statutes, as revised by House Bill 1379. House Bill (HB) 1379 revised existing Florida Statutes related to Environmental Protection, becoming effective on July 1, 2023. HB1379 added specific requirements to Florida Statutes Section 163.3177 related to pollutant load reduction projects for the Basin Management Action Plan (BMAP) areas in the County’s jurisdiction and for considering the feasibility of providing sanitary sewer service to developments of fifty (50) or more residential lots with more than one onsite sewage treatment and disposal systems (OSTDS) per one (1) acre. These provisions were explicitly described in the revised Statute as requiring an Amendment to the County’s Comprehensive Plan to include by July 1st, 2024. Two new policies have been developed to address the requirements of HB 1379. One policy will require the County to list applicable pollutant load projects for the LSJR BMAP in its Five-Year Capital Improvement Plan as needed. A second policy will require the County to consider the feasibility or providing sanitary sewer service to developments of fifty (50) or more residential lots with more than one onsite sewage treatment and disposal systems (OSTDS) per one (1) acre and include applicable projects in its Five-Year Schedule of Capital Improvements as needed. This Comprehensive Plan amendment is required for compliance with the applicable provisions of House Bill 1379, under the requirements of s. 163.1377, F.S. This item was presented at the PZA meeting on April 4, 2024 and received a vote to recommend transmittal (6/0; Dr. Hilsenbeck absent). The transmittal hearing took place at BCC on April 16, 2024 and received a vote to transmit (5/0). Presenter: Katie Buchanan, Esq. Kutak Rock Staff Member: Brandon Tirado, Planner District 3]

INCENTIVE AGREEMENT FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE BOARD AT A LATER, REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING. A.B. MAC SECOND. A.B.

MAC WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. THIS PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, UNIT CONGRATULATIONS.

>> ON2 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. GOOD MORNING.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. I'M A SENIOR ENGINEER WITH UTILITIES DEPARTMENT OF THE COUNTY. ON THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE SEWER PROGRAM. I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE ADOPTION OF THE PLANNED AMENDMENTS FOR APARTMENT HOUSE, BUILT 1379. TWO BEGAN, LAST TIME I WAS IN FRONT OF YOU, IT WAS BACK IN APRIL. WE ASKED FOR THE PERMISSION TO TRANSLATE THE AMENDMENT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FOR REVIEW. I WANT TO GET YOU UP TO SPEED. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO ENACT AN ORDINANCE TO ADOPT THE CONFERENCE AMENDMENT WITH TWO NEW POLICIES TO THE SECTION D OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE PLAN. ADDRESS ACQUIREMENT HOUSE BILL 1379. SOME OF THIS IS ABOVE THE REHASH -- IT'LL BE GOOD TO DO IT AGAIN TO SHOW WHAT WE ARE PLANNING ON THIS. THE CONFERENCE PLAN MUST BE UPDATED IN 2024. THERE WERE TWO REQUIREMENTS IN THE HOUSE BILL.

WE CRAFTED TWO NEW POLICIES TO COVER THOSE TWO ITEMS. THE FIRST POLICY HERE. THIS CAN REQUIRE US TO GO ACROSS THE COUNTY. AND PLAN THE 10 YEAR PLANNING HORIZON WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS OF 50 OR MORE RESIDENTIAL --. THE SEPTIC SYSTEM PER ACRE TO SEE ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY CONNECTING TO THE CENTRAL SEWER. THE SECOND ITEM WE CRAFTED REQUIRED A PROJECT NECESSARY TO MEET THE LOWER ST.

JOHN BASEMENT MANAGEMENT ACTION PLAN. POLLUTION REDUCTION GOALS. WE ARE NOT GOING TO LIST ANY PROJECTS. THE TWO PHASES TO THE PLANNED AMENDMENTS. THE FIRST PHASE RIGHT NOW, THE ADOPTION FEES RIGHT HERE AT THIS POINT. IT'LL BE THE LAST HEARING. LAST TIME WE MET, WE RECEIVED PERMISSION TO TRANSFER OUT TO STATE AGENCIES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FOR THE EXPEDITED REVIEW. WE DID IT ON APRIL 17. WITH A 30 DAY REVIEW PERIOD.

FOLLOWING THE TRANSMITTAL. WE RECEIVED MINOR COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE VARIANCE WITH THE PERIOD. WE HAD SUBSEQUENT PHONE CALLS WITH THE STAFF INVOLVED AND THEY REQUESTED US TO MAKE A MINOR CHANGE TO ONE OF THE POLICY SO THAT WE INCORPORATE THE FEASIBILITY REPORT INTO THE CONFERENCE PLAN BY REFERENCE.

WE CRAFTED THAT LANGUAGE AND WE SENT THE DEP TO REVIEW AGAIN AND THEY WERE SATISFIED WITH THE CHANGE. WE ARE ALSO PROVIDING INITIAL INFORMATION ON THE LINE TO THE DEP. BUT BACKGROUND INFORMATION REQUIRED FOR THE HOUSE BILL. WE RECEIVED NO OTHER SUBSTANTIAL COMMENTS FROM THE STATE AGENCY AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ON THE PERIODS. WE DID GIVE THE MOTION FROM PCA ON MAY 16 TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AMENDMENTS. AT LEAST, TO HEAR.

>> FOLLOWING THE ADOPTION PHASE, WE HAVE AN IMPLEMENTATION PHASE OF THIS WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE WORLD. WE WILL GO ACROSS THE COUNTY TO LOOK FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. MORE THAN 50 LOTS AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS PER ACRE AND WE WILL COMPILE A BIG LIST AND REPORTS OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS.

ONCE WE HAVE THE LIST, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY OF CONNECTING THOSE ON A 10 YEAR PLANNING HORIZON.

WE WILL PRIORITIZE THOSE BASED ON THE FACTORS WITH AVAILABILITY CONNECTION FUNDING WHETHER WE HAVE GRANTS FUNDING AVAILABLE AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS CAPACITY AND TRANSMISSION IN THE AREA, A NUMBER OF FACTORS WE WILL BE LOOKING AT. ONCE WE PRIORITIZE THOSE, WE PLAN ON POSSIBLY LOADING UP THE FIVE-YEAR CIP WITH CONVERSION PROJECTS. THAT IS ONLY THEY BECOME FEASIBLE . THAT IS NOT SAYING WE WILL DO A

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BUNCH OF PROJECTS. WE WILL LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY OF DOING SO.

I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT SORT OF DEVELOPMENTS WE COULD INCLUDE IN THE REPORTS. OF COURSE, WE HAVE EXISTING AND UPCOMING PLAN OF ELEMENTS WHICH WE WILL LOOK AT TO SEE THEY MEET THE CRITERIA. WE ALSO HAVE OTHER AREAS ACROSS THE COUNTY AND SAN AUGUSTINE STYLE TREASURE BEACH AREA. ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS WOULD BE MAYBE VERMONT HEIGHTS WITH THE AREA THEY ARE.

WE VIEW THE LEGISLATURE AND THE INTENSIVE HOSPITAL 1379. WE THINK THEY WANT US TO INCLUDE ANY GROUP AREA RESIDENTIAL LOTS WITH MORE THAN ONE SEPTIC SYSTEM PER ACRE. THE CURRENT UNDERSTANDING IS WE WILL BE INCLUDED VARIOUS -- IN OUR REPORT. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE WILL DO PROJECTS THERE BUT WE WILL LOOK AT FEASIBILITY OF DOING SO. WITH THAT, WE ARE ASKING FOR YOU TO ENACT AN ORDINANCE TO ADOPT THE PLAN AMENDMENT TO ADD TWO NEW POLICIES, THE 136 AND D1 49 D1 492 MEETS THE REQUIREMENT HOUSE BILL 1379. WITH THAT, I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU THE PUBLIC MAY

HAVE. >> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY. ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?

>> WE WILL OPEN A PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

FOUR. >> JOE --, 1005 JOE --, 1005 BARRY LN. GREAT PROGRAM. IT IS ABOUT TIME. WATER QUALITY IS AN ISSUE IN THE COUNTY. WITH EVERY COUNTY. IT IS A GREAT LAW.

FINALLY COMES TO US FROM TALLAHASSEE. AND THAT IS GOOD.

A COUPLE OF CONCERNS THAT I HAVE . VERMONT HEIGHTS FOR EXAMPLE. WILL IT BE THEN A SPECIAL HAT , SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICT? WOULD RESIDENTS IN VERMONT HEIGHTS HAVE TO PAY FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS? AND OTHERS. AN OPEN QUESTION I HAVE WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT. WE HAVE ANOTHER PLANNED ROLE DEVELOPMENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. SOME ARE GREATER THAN 50 UNITS. FOR THE COUNTY TO EXTEND THE SEWER SERVICE THAT FAR OUT, ALMOST CONSTITUTES URBAN SPRAWL, IF YOU WILL . ONLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LARGE LINE BETWEEN HERE AND THERE. AND, CERTAINLY THE LINE WOULD BE SIZED NOT JUST THE 51 UNIT PRD. BUT EVERYTHING THAT MAY COME BETWEEN. IT IS AN UNATTENDED CONSEQUENCE IF YOU WILL. IN MY MIND. I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THE COUNTY STAFF WILL BE SERVING THE COUNTY AND PUTTING TOGETHER A LIST FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. AND FOR US TO HEAR ABOUT. IN MANY WAYS, I'M HAPPY FOR THIS PROJECT. IN SOME WAYS, I HAVE QUESTIONS. AND I HAVE CONCERNS. SO I GUESS WE ALL HAVE TO STAY TUNED. OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE , WE WILL

CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. I HAVE TO GET A NOTE OF 30 SECONDS. I GUESS, PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT I LIKE TO DO ON THIS INVOLVING WATER QUALITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THAT IS WHAT JOE SAID IS VERY TRUE. WE HAVE SERIOUS SURFACE WATER QUALITY PROBLEMS ALL OVER THE STATES. PARTICULARLY IN SOUTH FLORIDA WHERE THEY SUFFER AND CONTINUE TO SUFFER THE TOXIC ALGAE IN BOTH THE ESTUARIES ON THE EAST AND WEST COAST. WE HAVE PROBLEMS IN THE ST. JOHNS RIVER. WE HAVE ANOTHER OF IMPAIRED BODIES DETERMINED BY EPA UNDER THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS. THIS IS ONE TOOL THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE THE

ITEM. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN. TO MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2024 TO ADOPT THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN AMENDMENT TO ADD NEW POLICIES, D .1.3.6. AND THE.ONE.4.9 TO ADDRESS THE REQUIREMENT OF HOUSE BILL 79 SUBJECT TO THE FINDING OF FACT.

>> SECOND. >> A MOTION IN A SECOND.

>> CAN I COMMENT? >> YES.

>> WHAT WAS SAID, IT IS A SNEAKY WAY TO GET MORE GROWTH IN THE COUNTY. I WANT CLEAN WATER AND I APPRECIATE IT. I

[5. Public Hearing * CDD AMD 2024-01 Entrada CDD. Petition to amend the Entrada Community Development District to add approximately 102.96 acres to the District Presenter: Andrew Rakowski - Langan Engineering Staff Member: Keisha Fink, AICP, Principal Planner District 5]

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WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT, INC. YOU.

>> OKAY, PLEASE WILL. >> PLEASE VOTES.

>> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ONTO AGENDA ITEM

NUMBER FIVE. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM KATIE BUCHANAN ON BEHALF OF -- COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. MY ADDRESS IS 107 WEST COLLEGE AVE. IN TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA. THE MATTER TODAY FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER. IT IS THE PETITION TO AMEND THE BOUNDARY OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT . SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL WE HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE. WITH THIS REQUEST. TODAY, WE ARE ASKING TO ADD APPROXIMATELY 102.96 ACRES. BY WAY OF HISTORY, WAS INITIALLY APPROVED IN 2020 AT HUNDRED AND 43.98 ACRES. AMENDED AT 58 ACRES IN 2021. AND THEN AMENDED IN 2023 432 ACRES. TODAY REQUEST IS HUNDRED AND THREE. THIS GIVES A BETTER REPRESENTATION OF THE AREA THAT THE DISTRICT WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED , THE PINK IS WHAT WE CALL THE EXPANSION PARCELS. ALL OF THE PROPERTY IS INCLUDED WITH THE ENTRADA DEVELOPMENT AND ENTITLEMENTS. NOTHING YOU DECIDE TODAY WILL MODIFY THOSE RIGHTS. THEY HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED BY THE BOARD. AFTER THE AMENDMENT, THE TOTAL ACREAGE WILL BE FORTUNE 36.9 ACRES. IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE AMENDMENT LAND IS COMPRISED OF TWO TYPES OF AREAS. THE FIRST IS THE ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL POD. 178 UNITS AND THE SECOND IS THE FURTHER EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING CDD AMENITY TRACKS.

IT'LL ALLOW FOR THE INCLUSION OF DOG PARKS. WALKING PATHS AND ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE WITHIN THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES. NOW, UNDER THE 190.0461 EACH ONE, THESE ARE THE LEGAL CRITERIA THAT MUST BE MET FOR YOUR APPROVAL. ALL OF THE ITEMS HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE DISTRICT BOUNDARY PETITION REVIEWED BY THE STAFF. WE HAVE ADDITIONALLY PROVIDED TESTIMONY EVIDENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS. AND THEN, THESE FINDINGS ARE IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE DISTRICT PROVIDED WRITTEN CONSENT PROPERLY NOTICED IT AND PROVIDED STATUTORY NOTICE OF TODAY'S HEARING AND MET THE COMPLIANT LAW WITH THE PETITION ITSELF. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. OTHERWISE, THAT IS A VERY SIMPLE REVIEW OF WHAT WE ARE ASKING. FOR THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> FIRST THOMAS AMMANN OF THESE, I THOUGHT WE WERE ADDING MORE HOMES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE ARE NOT DOING THAT TODAY ARE WE?

>> THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED. >> WERE NOT ADDING MORE HOMES ARE IMPROVING MORE HOMES. IT IS TO BRING THE FUTURE HOMES WITH

THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CDD? >> YES SIR.

>> OKAY, CLARIFY, THINK >> FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT KNOW THE HISTORY WHEN IT WAS APPROVED IN 2021, WE WERE NOT ADDING ADDITIONAL HOMES AT THAT MEETING. THE DEVELOPER DID A VERY EXCELLENT JOB IN CONSOLIDATING THREE DIFFERENT GRANDFATHERED PROJECTS THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED IN THE EARLY 2000'S. INTO ONE OVERALL PROJECT CALLED -- WITH NO ADDITIONAL HOMES ADDED AND MUCH IMPROVEMENT TO THE PUBLIC SERVICES DELIVERY SYSTEM. THAT IS THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT.

OF THE PUBLIC DOES NOT KNOW, THEY MAY LEAVE THINKING AS WITH ANY PROJECT WE APPROVED IN 2021 OR TODAY IN 2024 WITH THE CHANGE. I WANT THE RECORDS REFLECT THAT.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> HOW FAST ARE YOU BUILDING IT

OUT? >> WE HAVE ROUGHLY 70% BUILDOUT . THE LINE PROPERTY WE ARE ADDING TODAY IS THE GUN CONSTRUCTION. I EXPECT TWO YEARS. I HAVE A REP HERE WHO

CAN CONFIRM. >> HOW MANY HOMES DOES IT IN

THE NEXT TWO YEARS? >> 178.

>> THANK YOU. >> PUBLIC COMMENT. ITEM NUMBER FIVE SEEING NONE , WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> BACK TO THE BOARD. SINCE IT IS DISTRICT TREE -- THREE.

ENACT AMD. 2024-01 EXPANDING THE ENTRADA

[6. REZ 2023-27 SWC-20 RecNation St. Augustine. REZ 2023-27 SWC-20 RecNation St. Augustine, request to rezone approximately 1.52 acres of land from Residential, Single Family (RS-3) to Industrial Warehousing (IW). The Planning and Zoning Agency heard this request at their regularly scheduled public hearing on May 2, 2024, and recommended approval with a vote of 6 to 0 (Green absent). Presenter: Ellen Avery-Smith, Rogers Towers Presenter: Trevor Steven, Planner District 3]

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CDD BOUNDARY BASED ON THE FOUNDING TO THE FACTS.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. VERY MUCH. TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, QUASIJUDICIAL. COMMISSIONER

JOSEPH? >> EMAIL FROM THE APPLICANT AND

I DROVE BY THE PROPERTY. >> COMMISSION -- CLEAR TO I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THE APPLICANT.

>> I RECEIVED THE SAME EMAIL FROM THE APPLICANT.

>> I GOT THE EMAIL AND DID NOT RESPOND BUT I DID RECEIVE THE

EMAIL. >> SAME EMAIL, PUBLIC RECORD IN

THE FILE. >> THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

>> GOOD MORNING, MDM. CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS. LAND-USE ATTORNEY WITH DAYTONA BEACH. ONE DAYTONA BLVD., SUITE 600.

WE MOVED A WEEK AND HALF AGO. SO MANY ADDRESSES AND I'M STILL NEW. HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. SWC PROPERTY LLC, AN AFFILIATE OF RECOGNITION WHICH I WILL SPEAK TO A LITTLE BIT HERE IN A MOMENT. HERE WITH ME TODAY IS ANDREW PERKOWSKI WITH NEW ENGLAND ENGINEERING. MCAULEY, JESSICA WITH --. AND -- WITH RECREATION. WE WANT TO THANK THE STAFF OF THEIR CONSISTENCE WITH THE REZONING REQUEST AND HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL. VERY THOOUGH STAFF REPORTS. HELPFUL EVERY STEP OF THE WAY WITH THE APPLICATION PROCESS AS ALWAYS. THE REQUEST TODAY IS A REZONING FROM RST TO IW. TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW , IT IS A FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS THAT OPERATES RV AND VOTE STORAGE FACILITIES ACROSS SEVEN STATES . THE FOCUS IS EXCLUSIVELY ON SECURE PREMIUM STORAGE FOR BOTH , THEY DESIGN DEVELOP OWN AND OPERATE THEIR OWN FACILITIES. IS NOT A THIRD PARTY THAT COMES IN. IT IS THE SAME COMPANY THAT OWNS IT AND OPERATES ITS. THE BUSINESS REALLY DEVELOPED OUT OF A NEED TO PROVIDE A PREMIUM STORAGE LOCATION FOR VOTES AND RVS. AS MORE SUBDIVISIONS COME ON BOARD. THEY HAVE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT PROHIBIT THE RV AND VOTE STORAGE WITHIN. WE WANT TO SIGN PROVIDING THE TYPE OF FACILITY THAT IS NOT A GRAVEL LOT. IT IS ENCLOSED. IT IS A SAFE SPACE. IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO FOCUS MORE ON USING THEIR RECREATIONAL VEHICLES. AND ACCESSORIES. AND SPENDING TIME CLEANING WORKING ON THEM. AND DEALING WITH SECURITY AND SAFETY ISSUES AS WELL. JUST TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE SITES, YOU CAN SEE IT IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF FIRST AND AVENUE D. THE FUTURE LAND USE IS MIX OF MIXED USE AND A LITTLE SLIVER OF AIRPORT DISTRICT IN YELLOW. YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE. YOU CAN SEE AS FAR AS ZONING IS CAN LEARN, IT IS RS THREE. THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE EAST OF THE SITE IS OWNED BY OUR CLIENTS. IN THE IW ZONING DISTRICT. WHAT THE REQUEST ALLOWS THE CLIENT TO DO IS BUILD THEIR VISION FOR THE COURT AWAY. THE REZONING IS TERRORISM -- TO PROVIDE THE INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY THE PREMIUM DEVELOP PROJECT ON THE SITE. FYOCK -- IT IS THE JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITY.

THE YOUTH ACADEMY. TO THE NORTH IS A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES. TAILORED USE PEST CONTROL. FURTHER TO THE EAST, ACROSS AVENUE A, YOU HAVE THE RAILROAD. THE VOTE DEALERSHIP AND MINISTORAGE. YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE TO THE SOUTH OF THE FIRE STATION. WHERE WE ARE TODAY, ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES TODAY. TO THE WEST OF THE SITE ACROSS AVENUE D. THERE IS SOME RESIDENTIAL AND OPEN RURAL OUT OF THE SIDES. WHY WE THINK IT IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY, PROVIDES POTENTIAL TO CREATE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE USE TO THE EAST OF THE SITE AND RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE WEST.

WHAT YOU SEE TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE WITH A LARGE STORM WATER POND ASSOCIATED WITH THE GOVERNMENTAL FACILITY. SIMILAR TO WHAT THE VISION WE HAVE FOR THE SITE IS. PROVIDING A NATURAL BUFFER AND ONE THAT WON'T INVOLVE ANY STORAGE ALONG AVENUE D. AND ONE THAT PROVIDES A NICE TRANSITION FROM THE MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USE TO THE EAST. THE MORE PASSIVE USE WITH THE STORAGE AND RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST OF THE SITE. WE HAVE DONE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT REACH AND WE MET WITH THE AIRPORT AUTHORITY TO RECEIVE THEIR STAMP OF APPROVAL BECAUSE

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WE HAVE THAT SLIVER THAT IS IN THE AIRPORT OVERLAY DISTRICT WE UNDERSTAND THE STAFF SPOKE WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEY HAVE NO CONCERNS ABOUT THE REQUEST AS WELL. WE DID TURN IN THE PCA IN MAY AND GOT THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.

THIS PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF THE SITES. THE AREA IN RED IS 1.5 ACRES SUBJECT TO THE REZONING. WITH THE OVERLAY, IT IS A STORMWATER LANDSCAPING. AND AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ROAD.

THE MAJORITY OF USE WITH A COUPLE UNITS HE CAN SEE THE OVERLAP ONTO THE PROPERTY. IT IS ALREADY ON THE IW'S OWN PROPERTY. THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE IS ON AVENUE A. WE ARE HOPING TO HAVE EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY ON AVENUE D. THAT PUTS THE SITE CLOSER TO WHERE THE ACTION IS. CLOSER TO WHERE FOLKS ARE GOING TO GO TO ACCESS U.S. ONE TO GET OUT TO THE VOTE RAMPS AND TO GET OUT TO THE HIGHWAYS AND TO START THE TRYPSIN GET EVERYBODY BACK. WE WANT TO CONCENTRATE BE USED ALONG AVENUE A. IT IS VERY INTENTIONAL AND SPECIFIC IN DESIGN AND SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT THIS TYPE OF USE IS IT IS A LOW TRAFFIC GENERATOR. AND IF TRAFFIC TYPICALLY OCCURS DURING THE OFF-PEAK HOURS, PEOPLE ARE NOT STARTING RV TRIPS AND TAKING VOTES OUT AFTER WORK. IT IS USUALLY ON THE WEEKENDS UNLESS CARS ARE ON THE ROAD AS WELL. THERE ARE TRIPS THAT ARE ON THE ROAD BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR VOTES OUT ON THE ROAD FOR THE RV. IT IS PART OF THE JOURNEY THEY ARE ON WHEN THEY COME TO STORE THEIR VOTES AND RVS. THIS ALSO IS A REDEVELOPMENT. IT WAS A SALVAGE YARD WITH PREVIOUS VIEWS FROM AVENUE A LOOKING WEST OF THE SITES. THIS SHOWS THE FENCING ALREADY OUT THERE WITH THE RENDERING WITH ONE OF THE BUILDINGS COULD LOOK LIKE ON THE FACILITY FROM AVENUE A. AND THIS IS A RENDERING OF WHAT A SIMILAR FACILITY COULD LOOK LIKE. AS WELL. JUST TO CONCLUDE , AGAIN. WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE AND MIXED USE WITH THE AIRPORT OVERLAY. WE THINK THAT IT IS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT AS WELL THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THIS SUMMER -- IT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE AREA WITH THE STORM WATER BLEACHERS. SERVES AS A TRANSITION TO THE RESIDENTIAL USAGE OF THE WEST OF THE SITES. WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS REQUEST AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>> CAN YOU KEEP THE NATIONAL -- NATURAL BUFFER? ON THE EDGES QUESTION MARK IT WAS SO PRETTY WHEN A DROVE BY.

>> THE GOAL IS TO KEEP AS MANY NATURAL AREAS AS POSSIBLE. WE WILL DO THE BEST AS WE CAN'T WORK WITH THE STAFF.

>> DOES THE LEFT LOCAL ACT APPLY TO THIS ZONING?

>> YES, GOOD MORNING, KRISTY, SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY. IT'LL APPLY THE PROPERTY WAS OUT TO INDUSTRIAL

. >> ARE YOU WILLING TO SAY YOU

WON'T USE IT FOR THAT METHOD? >> I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PLAN TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE. WE ARE GOOD

>> OKAY. WITH NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, LET'S HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. OPENING A PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX. COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

>> CHAT CLUB IN ASCII, --. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT. THEY HAVE TWO NEAR THE COUNTY LINE AND JOHNSON COUNTY. THERE ARE NICE FACILITIES. MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THE FACILITY IS THE POSSIBILITY OF TRAFFIC GOING OUT ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT. THEY SAID IT WAS PLANNED FOR EMERGENCY ONLY. THE CONCERN IS THAT IS A NARROW ROAD BACK THERE. YOU GET THE LARGER VEHICLES. THE TRAILERS AND VOTES AND SO FORTH COMING IN AND OUT OF THERE. THAT IS A

CONCERN. THANK YOU. >> TONY HANS, MILL CREEK ESTATES. THERE WAS A CONCERN. THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED WITH THE WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE DEVELOPERS PUT IN 1 MILLION+ A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE TO PUT A ROUNDABOUT AT THE APEX OF THE CURVE FAIR. IS THIS GOING TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO MOVE HEAVY VOTES AND RVS DOWN THE

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LEWIS SPEEDWAY? A LITTLE CONCERN THERE. BECAUSE THEY DID. THEY CHANGED THE DEVELOPMENT OVER AND OVER AND BROUGHT IN ONE OF THE HEAD PEOPLE. AND SAID WE WILL GRACIOUSLY PUT IN $1 MILLION FOR THE ROUNDABOUT. RIGHT THERE. WITH THE APEX OF THE CURVE. LOOK INTO IT. THANK YOU.

>> ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX? SEEING NONA , WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

>> QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS AND COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> I'M PREPARED TO MOVE UP THERE ARE ANY OF THE QUESTIONS.

I MEAN, MOVIE ITEM, NOT MOVE OUT OF THE COUNTY. FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE WISHING THAT. TO ENACT THE ORDINANCE, 20 2430 APPROVING 2023 E- 2027 SWC ST. AUGUSTINE BASED ON THE COURT FINDING OF FACT PROVIDED WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT AND ADDING THE LANGUAGE WHERE THE APPLICANT IS BASICALLY WAIVING THEIR RIGHTS TO THE LIVE LOCAL ACT ITEM. IF I SAID IT RIGHT, CHRISTINE?

>> YES, SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTES. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, CONGRATULATION -- CONGRATULATIONS. I'M GOING TO

[Public Comment]

MOVE US INTO THE TIME CERTAIN PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THE NEXT 30 MINUTES. I BELIEVE THE FINAL ITEM WILL TAKE US A LITTLE BIT

OF TIME. >> THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS ON THE REGULAR AGENDA , THEY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN PUBLIC COMMENTS. IF HE WAS TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU'LL BE PROVIDED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND SHALL COMPLY WITH THE BOARD RULES OF THE CORN. COMMENTS ARE A TRUST OF THE BOARD AS A WHOLE AND NOT ANY COMMISSIONER MAY NOT INCLUDED IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD. MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE TO REFRAIN FROM ANY DISRUPTIVE AND DEMONSTRATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS. ANY SPEAKER PRESENTING OF THE OVERHEAD MATERIAL, PRESENT THE MATERIAL TO THE STAFF TO BE ENTERED INTO

THE PUBLIC RECORD. THANK YOU. >> MR. TOM? AND STAFF? SORRY, THANK YOU. SAN AUGUSTINE. SHORT AND TO THE POINT, FOLKS. PLEASE READ THE DASS POEM, D.A.S. H PUBLIC. LISTEN TO 90.5 FM .

ONE'S HOPELESS LIFE CAN CHANGE. WE DO NOT WRESTLE AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD, AGAINST PRINCIPALITIES, POWERS, THE RULERS OF THE DARKNESS OF AGE, SPIRITUAL HOSTS OF WICKEDNESS IN THE HEAVENLY PLACES. I REALLY DON'T ASK FOR ANYTHING. I DON'T THINK. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THINGS. I'M ASKING FOR SOMETHING TODAY. I'VE GOT TWO MINUTES TO REPEATED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. PAPER TOWELS NEED TO BE PROVIDED IN THE PUBLIC BATHROOM AT THE MAIN LIBRARY AT 1960 NORTH PONCE DE LEON BOULEVARD. WE NEED PAPER TOWELS IN THE PUBLIC BATHROOMS WHICH HAVE DISAPPEARED. THEY NEED TO BE REAPPEARED. FOR OUR USE. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT SERIOUSLY, YOU THINK , YOU CHANGE A TINY BABY. YOU MAY NOT HAVE WHAT YOU NEED THERE. AND PAPER TOWELS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. WE HAVE THIS MACHINE THAT BLOWS YOUR HANDS DRY. THAT IS FINE. BUT MY REQUEST , BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH MONEY. I KNOW MR. JESSE DUNCAN CAN FIND SOMEBODY. WE NEED TO PUT PAPER TOWELS BACK IN THE PUBLIC BATHROOM AT THE MAIN LIBRARY. I DON'T SPEAK SPANISH. BUT I WILL SAY. PUT BEFORE? WE NEED THE PAPER TOWELS BACK. LET'S THINK FOR 42 SECONDS WHAT I ASKED FOR.

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DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND ? PAPER TOWELS IN THE BATHROOM AT THE MAIN LIBRARY. MR. DEAN, DID YOU HEAR ME?

>> I'M LISTENING, PAPER TOWELS. WE WILL GET THEM IN.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> SHERRY BACHER, 27, S. COLLINS AVE. IT IS A FLASHBACK IN HISTORY FOR YOU PEOPLE UP THERE. WONDERING ON WHO YOU SHOULD BE VOTING FOR. BACK IN 2019, DURING THE PANDEMIC, TWO OF THE COMMISSIONERS VOTED EVERY MEETING TO MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCE US. NOW THIS LAST WEEK AFTER THE HEARINGS, THE SOCIAL DISTANCING CAME FROM THIN AIR. THEY KNEW THE MASK. I CAME IN HERE AND TOLD YOU AND SAID READ THE CDC GUIDELINES.

BUT ONE OF YOU INSISTED ON MASKING AND ROLLING DOWN THE HILL IN THAT BUCKET OF LEMONS LIKE THE REST OF THE PEOPLE.

THIS SHOULD BE A WELL LEARNED LESSON FOR ALL OF US. WE CANNOT TRUST THE GOVERNMENT. AND ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW AND FALL DOWN THE HILL LIKE A BUNCH OF LEMONS. GOD BLESS, AND

HAVE A GREAT DAY. >> CHOCOLATE IN ASCII, --. THE SHERIFF PRESENTS WELL AND SO DOES THE CHIEF. BUT LET ME TELL YOU. WE DO NOT PAY THEM ENOUGH. THEY PUT THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE EVERY DAY. FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US. I CAN TELL YOU A STORY ABOUT MY SON WHO WAS A DEPUTY. 13 AND 15-YEAR-OLD SHOT OUT HIS SIDE WINDOW. BECAUSE THEY PUT A BOUNTY OUT ON HIM.

EVERY TIME THEY CHASE SOMEBODY DOWN 95, OR DOWN 16, OR DOWN ROUTE 1, THEY PUT THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE FOR US. WE CAN DIG DEEPER INTO THE POCKETS OF THE COUNTY. TO SUPPORT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU DO THE BUDGET.

THANKS. >> CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATES. " FROM MR. BURKE OF THE AJC. " " WE WANT TO GET INTO THE NEXT SESSION TO TAKE A LOOK AT ADDING THREE AND FOUR UNITS DEVELOPMENTS TO RESIDENTIAL CODE. " WHAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS WANTING TO DO IS PUT THREE OR FOUR UNITS ONTO THE DEVELOPMENT FOOD SO THAT IS CHANGING THE COMP PLAN TO PUT MORE UNITS ON PER ACRE. IS THIS RESIDENTIAL CODE? BCD, OKAY.

YES, THAT IS WHY WE COULD NOT GET A PEER MAKE A COMMENT.

BECAUSE WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS BROUGHT UP, AND, THAT IS A COMMITTEE THAT IS LOOKING TO DO THAT. RIGHT BEFORE THE COMP PLAN. OKAY? VERY MUCH, AND LIKE I SAID. THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPEN IN THE BAKEHOUSE ABOUT SUBCOMMITTEES AND OTHER COMMITTEES PUTTING IN CHANGES. THAT THEY GET THE EFFECTS FROM BUT NOBODY REALLY UNDERSTANDS OR KNOWS ABOUT THEM. THE NEXT THING IS, THE DEBACLE OF A STATE OF THE COUNTY ADDRESS.

ADD IMAX THEATER. OKAY? IT REALLY WAS. TO HEAR PEOPLE AROUND ME. WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT? THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING AROUND HERE. THE AGENDA COVERED THE SAME AGENDA THAT WAS ON THE 2022 TAX. ABOUT HOW MANY FIRE STATIONS AND SPORTS COMPLEXES BUT THE PEOPLE WERE SAYING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF. IT WAS IMMINENT IN THAT AREA. OKAY? IT WAS FOR THE COUNTY. ALL RIGHT. BUT SOMETIMES, WHEN YOU COME AND SPEAK TO IT, THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON HERE INSTEAD OF WHAT IS GOING UP IN THE NORTHERN PARTS. OF THE COUNTY. WHICH IS AN IMMINENT THAT'LL HAPPEN. BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY AND THE VOTES ARE.

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OKAY? IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY. THERE WERE A FEW CHANGES ABOUT THE FLAGLER ESTATES. BUT TO SIT IN THAT ARENA AND HEAR PEOPLE ? MAYBE THAT IS WHY THE IMAX GOT SOLD OUT BECAUSE IT WAS GOING OUT. I WOULD SAY. WHENEVER A COMMUNITY MEETING LIKE THAT COMES WITH IN, NOT JUST FOR THE COUNTY.

BUT WITHIN A COMMUNITY OF AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. STAND UP AND

TALK TO THE PEOPLE. >> I AGREE. I HAD AN OCCASION TO TALK TO THE SHERIFF ON MEMORIAL DAY AT THE FINANCIAL CEMETERY. I THANKED HIM FOR HIS SERVICE AND THANK THEM ESPECIALLY FOR BODY CAMERAS. OFC. WARREN -- OFFICER WORN BODY CAMERAS AND DESKTOP CAMERAS. IT IS THE BEST THING WE EVER DID. HOW MANY TIMES DID WE STAND HERE AT THE PODIUM AND ASKED YOU TO DO THAT? HE DID IT AND I SALUTE HIM FOR IT. HE LISTENS. YOU DON'T, MOST OF THE TIME. YOU REALLY DON'T.

CENTRAL PARKS IS NOT LET US TALK ABOUT THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER BUDGETS THIS MORNING. THAT'S WRONG BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE CONSTITUTIONAL BUDGETS.

WHOEVER THE ATTORNEY IS AND WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE HE NEVER APPLIED FOR THE JOB, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS NOT A MERITOCRACY. HIRED COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN 2019 TO NOT EVEN APPLY FOR THE JOB. WELL? THE HIRED COUNTY ATTORNEY IN THIS ROOM IN THIS YEAR. BECAUSE, HE IS A FRIEND OF THE VICE CHAIR? THAT DOG WON'T HUNT. I WAS TAKING A TESTIMONY ONCE IN OAK RIDGE TENNESSEE OF THE HEAD OF PERSONNEL AND LABOR RELATIONS IN OAK RIDGE. I ASKED PATRICIA HOUSTON SMITH AND SAID, IS OAK RIDGE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY MERITOCRACY? SHE SAID, NO! WELL, NEITHER IS ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOU ALL DID, TREY ALEXANDER ASNER IN RETALIATION FOR HIS FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTED ACTIVITY STANDING UP FOR BLACK HISTORY, TWO OF YOU, THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR WON'T MEET WITH HIM. THERE'S NO EXCUSE, THAT IS RUDE. WE NEED A CIVILITY CODE FOR COMMISSIONERS. THEY TOO OFTEN REFUSE TO TALK TO CONSTITUENTS. WE HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER WHO WON'T MEET WITH ANYBODY ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BY THE WAY, IF YOU LOOK AT GOOGLE, AND I WILL PUT SOMETHING ON THE BLOG ABOUT IT. THERE IS A CURRENT FEDERAL CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION OF APARTMENT OWNERS. 10 OF THEM, LARGE NATIONAL CONCERNS. FOR PRICE-FIXING. THEY DO IT WITH THE ALGORITHMS. THEY DO IT BY COLLUDING THROUGH THIRD PARTIES. WITH THE STATE OF ARIZONA, GOD BLESS THEM. WITH THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. THE FBI HAS A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN HERE ASKING FOR A SUBSIDY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING YOU NEED TO SAY, LET ME SEE THE SUBPOENAS PLEASE. THE SUBPOENA TAKEN AND ISSUED IN YOUR COMPANY TALKING ABOUT PRICE-FIXING. WHEN YOU LOOK ABOUT HOW MUCH THE APARTMENTS HAVE GONE UP ? IT LOOKS LIKE PRICE-FIXING. CHECK IT OUT. MAYBE ASK YOUR ATTORNEY TO DO SOME ACTUAL RESEARCH TO HELP PEOPLE FOR A CHANGE INSTEAD OF

DEVELOPERS. THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS JUDY SPIEGEL, 101 GOING 101 GOING WILLOW LN. I WANT TO SAY AWESOME ON GETTING THE BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM. I'M EXCITED AND THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD THING. I WANT TO BRING IT UP AT THE LAST PUBLIC COMMENT MEETING BUT IT WAS SUCH A LONG MEETING THAT I KEPT MY MOUTH SHUT. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET MEETINGS. I ATTENDED A LOT OF THEM AND DID NOT GO TO ALL OF THEM BUT I WENT TO AS MANY AS I COULD. SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS WHERE THEY ARE A LOT. IT WAS AWESOME AND SO GOOD I HAD GONE LAST YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME OUT AT THE CENTER AND IT WAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT WORLD. I REALLY WANT TO COMMEND JOE ANDREWS FOR THE INTERACTION WITH THE STAFF. WITH THE GROUPING OF SEVERAL HAD PEOPLE IN EACH DEPARTMENT COMING IN AND THEY ARE ALL BRAGGING ON HOW THE DEPARTMENT IS THE BEST IN THE COUNTY COMPETING WITH EACH OTHER ON WHO IS BEST AND HOW THEY GET ALONG WORKING WELL FOR THE COUNTY. THERE WERE QUESTIONS ASKED THAT I BEEN RAISED BY THE COMMUNITY TO GET IT OUT THERE FOR TRANSPARENCY. I KNOW IT IS PROBABLY NOT THE

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BEST VIEWING MATERIAL THAT MAY BE BETTER THAN BINGE WATCHING GOLDEN GIRLS OR SOMETHING. GO ONTO GTP AND WATCH. IT IS REALLY INTERESTING. THERE IS A LOT WE CAN LEARN ABOUT HOW THE GOVERNMENT WORKS AND YOU PROBABLY WON'T AGREE WITH EVERY DECISION OR EVERY BUDGET PROPOSAL PUT FORWARD. THERE ARE SO MANY MOVING PARTS IN THE COUNTY AND THE MORE I LEARNED, THE SMALLER AND SMALLER I FEEL. IT IS IMPORTANT TO LEARN. I WANTED TO THANK MISS ANDREWS FOR SHIFTING THAT WAY THAT WAS DONE. IT IS SUPER EFFECTIVE AND I GLEAMED A LOT AND ANYBODY WOULD TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND WOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY.

THANK YOU AS FAR AS THE PLAN AMENDMENTS. THE CHANGE. I'M EXCITED ON HOW THAT IS GOING AND WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN ONE OF THE LISTENING SESSIONS. I WAS GLAD TO HEAR FROM ONE OF THE DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR IS. THERE WILL BE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TREE ORDINANCE. A LOT OF AGREEMENT ON SOME OF THOSE THAT WE WILL PROBABLY INCLUDE IN THE COMP PLAN. I SPOKE WITH DANNY, A CERTIFIED ARBORIST IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WITH RESPECT TO ADVANCE TREE CARE. HE GUIDED ME TO GOOD PORTIONS WE CAN INCLUDE AS FAR AS THE LONGEVITY OF TREES PLANTED. DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND WILL HAPPEN. IF WE CAN GET THE DEVELOPERS TO PLANT TREES IN A WAY THAT'LL CAUSE THEM TO THRIVE, WE WILL HAVE A BETTER RESULT THAN WHAT WE ARE PROBABLY SEEING RIGHT NOW. SO, I AM EXCITED THAT THE TREE ORDINANCE WILL BE ADDRESSED. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING.

I FEEL LIKE I'M IN ANOTHER WORLD HERE NOW, TAKE YOU SO

MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD MORNING. DORIS TAYLOR, 208 LABELLA ROAD. REGARDING THE BUDGETS. LAST YEAR, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I REALLY PAID A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THE BUDGETS. AND I NOTICED THAT THE SUPERVISOR ELECTION WHO IS A CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER , HER LINE ITEM HAD BEEN REMOVED. FROM THE BUDGETS. HER BUDGET WAS PUT INTO THE GENERAL FUND. HIDDEN. AND, IT BECAME ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET ANY DETAILS ON HER BUDGET. I STRONGLY REQUEST AND I THINK YOU ARE DOING IT BUT I AM NOT SURE, THAT SHE HAVE, THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS NEEDS TO BE LISTED AS A CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER WITH A SEPARATE LINE ITEM JUST LIKE THE OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS. AND, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE EVERY SINGLE WINE OF THE MAJOR EXPENDITURES , EXPENDITURES TO EQUIPMENT FOR EXAMPLE. THAT SHE OFFERS IF YOU ARE DOING THE BOOKKEEPING IN SUCH A WAY THAT ANY KIND OF MAJOR EXPENDITURE SET ASIDE IN A SEPARATE PLACE, WE NEED TO REFERENCE THAT AND FIND IT. I WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THE SLE IS SPENDING, HAS SPENT AND IS PLANNING ON SPENDING ON EQUIPMENT LIKE VOTING EQUIPMENTS. WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FIND IT LAST YEAR THAT SERIOUS, SERIOUS DIGGING. IT SHOULD NOT BE HIDDEN. PUT IT UP THERE NEW RIGHTS, THANK YOU.

>> LET ME ASK TYLER. AGAIN, JOE -- 1005 BLACKBERRY LN. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU. I WAS HONORED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE RECENT LAND-USE FOCUS GROUP. WE DISCUSSION WITH DEVELOPERS AND LAND-USE ATTORNEYS AND ACTIVISTS AND CONSULTANT INSPIRED PLACE MAKER. THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A BIG ISSUE FROM THAT MEETING WHICH WAS TO DEVELOP AN AREA BOUNDARY THAT WAS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. I WILL PUT MY CONCLUSION UP FRONT FIRST. WE DON'T NEED TO ENLARGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY. AND WHY. SO, THE CONSULTANT DID POINT OUT STATES THAT YOU 163 3177 TO SAY THAT IT IS A REQUIREMENT THAT ABUTMENT AREA BOUNDARY HAVE ENOUGH LAND FOR THE PROJECTED AMOUNT OF POPULATION WE WILL HAVE. WE TALK ABOUT PROJECTED POPULATION AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. WHEN YOU READ THE STATUTE, IT SAYS IT HAS TO BE A MEDIUM TENURE POPULATION PROJECTION. SO, WHEN WE LOOK AT HERE, THERE ARE STATISTICS FOR US. STATISTICS

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WE ARE USING. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE STATISTICS, A 10 YEAR HIGH AND MEDIUM PROJECTION DOES SHOW WE WILL GROW LEGENDARY TO THOUSAND AND NINE OR 89,003. THAT IS WHAT IT SHOWS AND THOSE ARE PEOPLE. THOSE ARE PEOPLE NOT HOUSES. BUT, BUT WAIT.

HENRY, HE POINTED IT OUT BEFORE THAT WE HAVE A LONG, LONG LIST OF APPROVED BUT UNBILLED HOMES. OVER 56,000 AND THAT OF THE COUNTY'S LIST. WHEN I TALK TO TERESA BISHOP AND I ASK HER, ALL OF THOSE HOMES, HOW MANY PEOPLE? THE ANSWER IS THE COUNTY USES 2.75 PERSONS PER HOUSE PROVIDED BY THE U.S.

CENSUS. 147 PEOPLE -- 55,147 PEOPLE ARE HEADED OUR WAY. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE 10 YEAR MEDIUM AND HIGH PROJECTIONS, NOT JUST MEDIUM, WE CAN SEE THAT YES. PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THE COUNTY. BUT GUESS WHAT? WE HAVE ALREADY INVITED 155,000. WE HAVE MORE LAND THAN WE WILL NEED FOR THE PEOPLE WE ALREADY INVITED. ON THAT BASIS, I AM SAYING WE DO NOT NEED TO EXPAND THE COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY. I'M SAYING THAT FOR A 10 YEAR PROJECTION BECAUSE THAT IS ALL THE STATE REQUIRES IS A 10 YEAR PROJECTION. THERE WAS TALK ABOU A 25 YEAR PROJECTION. I CAN GIVE YOU STATS ON THAT AS WELL. I WILL SEND YOU AN EMAIL. BUT IT IS ABOUT THIS DRAMATIC , WE DON'T NEED TO ENLARGE THE BELLMAN AREA BOUNDARY. THANK

YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

DISTRICT 1, COUNTY COMMISSIONER. THAT WAS AN OUTSTANDING PRESENTATION BY MR. --. THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS MORNING. THE FIRST BEING THE TIME CERTAIN ONCE AGAIN IS NOT CERTAIN. CERTAIN MEANS TO KNOW FOR SURE ESTABLISHED BEYOND DOUBT. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER REASON WHY YOUR COUNTY AND YOUR VOICE INITIATIVE SHOULD BE ADOPTED. THAT WAY WE KNOW FOR CERTAIN WHEN PUBLIC, WILL BE -- WON'T BE SHIFTED THAT WAY. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT LAST WEEK, WE HAD A PRESENTATION BY THOMAS P MILLER AND ASSOCIATIONS BY WORLD GOLF VILLAGE. I WONDER HOW MUCH IT IS COSTING. I'M GOING TO PUT ON THE OVERHEAD WHAT WE ARE PAYING. LOOKS LIKE $116,000. FOR A CONTRAC THAT STARTED, LOOKS LIKE, IN MARCH AND UPDATED IN JULY 2023. TO INCLUDE THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE. I AM DISAPPOINTED IN THE LACK OF INFORMATION WE HAVE ABOUT PLANS FOR WORLD GOLF VILLAGE WHEN WE HAVE BEEN IN THE CONTRACT SINCE JULY. SOME OTHER THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT. AS I'VE BEEN COMING TO THE MEETINGS AND GETTING TO KNOW THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THE COUNTY. I SEEM TALENTED AND SMART AND INNOVATIVE AND CREATIVE INDIVIDUALS. IT IS TRULY IMPRESSIVE. WHEN I LOOK AT SOME THE THINGS WE ARE PAYING FOR THE CONSULTANTS, I'M REALLY SURPRISED. I'M GOING TO PUT UP ON THE OVERHEAD. THE FIRST THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT JANUARY 2024 SHOULD MATCH WITH THE JANUARY INVOICE TOTAL.

WHICH IT DOES NOT. ANOTHER TYPO AS WE SON IN THE PRESENTATION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I FEEL LIKE OUR OWN TEAM COULD'VE HANDLED. ORDINANCE, REVIEW RESEARCH AND UPDATES. WE HAVE ATTORNEYS. I'M NOT SURE WHY WE HAD TO OUTSOURCE THAT. RESEARCH ON THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY PARCEL. NOT SURE WHY WE HAD TO OUTSOURCE THAT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAD TO OUTSOURCE THAT? IN LIGHT OF COMMENTS MADE ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, ONE OF THE BEST SURVEY QUESTIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN AS THE PUBLIC HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE MONEY BEING SPENT ON THE CONSULTANTS. THANK YOU.

>> ANYBODY ELSE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS? SEEING NONE , WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THAT BRINGS US BACK TO THE BOARD. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

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>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO TRUST TO COME SUBLIMATE. WHEN WE HAVE A MEETING LIKE WE HAVE IN IMAX, WE SHOULD LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC.

MR. HUNT WAS THERE FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END. YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT I STOOD UP ON STAGE AFTER THE PRESENTATION FOR A LITTLE BIT OVER AN HOUR. I FEEL THAT EVERY QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED OF ME BY THE MANLEY CHARGE OF MEMBERS OF THE RESIDENCE ON THAT AREA THAT SHOWED UP. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN. BUT I WANT TO REMIND YOU. I DID STAND UP ON STAGE FOR ABOUT AN HOUR, LITTLE BIT OVER AN HOUR AND FIELDED QUESTIONS UNTIL IT WAS TIME TO CLOSE --. IT IS A STANDING OFFER TO COME MEET WITH ANYBODY AT YOUR HOUSE. AT THE END OF YOUR DRIVEWAY AT YOUR HOA MEETING TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ANYBODY ELSE MIGHT HAVE. IT IS MY BELIEF EVERY COMMISSIONER HAS MADE A SIMILAR OFFER. TO THE RESIDENTS OF THEIR DISTRICT. THAT IS WHEN. TWO, TWO COMMISSIONERS IN 2019 I DID NOT BECOME COMMISSIONER UNTIL THE END ON 2020 SO I DO NOT REMEMBER TAKING THE VOTES. THE ONLY ONE I REMEMBER TAKING WAS WHATEVER MANDATES WERE IN PLACE IN MY FIRST 100 DAYS IN OFFICE. I DON'T REMEMBER THERE BEING A COUNTYWIDE MASK MANDATES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT THERE WAS NO COUNTY WIDE MASK MANDATES. A HOLLOW -- I HOPE YOU APPRECIATE

THAT HISTORY. >> THANK YOU, WHITEHURST.

COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT OUT, I WILL REFRESH EVERYBODY'S MEMORY. THE PANDEMIC REALLY HIT AROUND MARCH 2020. WHEN THIS HAPPENED, THE NATIONAL DIRECTOR OF THE PANDEMIC STRONGLY RECOMMENDED THAT WE STARTED WEARING MASKS . SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.

SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD IDEA. THAT IS AMERICA, IT IS CALLED DEMOCRACY. EVERYBODY HAS AN OPINION. IN 2020 AND JUNE, I MADE A MOTION TO REQUIRE A MANDATES, A MASK MANDATES COUNTYWIDE. I DID NOT GET A SECOND ON THE MOTION. AND

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NEVER WENT FURTHER THAN MY MOTION. THAT WAS JUNE 2020. MR. WHITEHURST I BELIEVED HE WAS SWORN IN IN NOVEMBER 2020. I THANK YOU, YOU PROCEEDED THAT OFFENSE.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN. AT THIS POINT, LET'S PUSH THROUGH. LET'S HEAR ITEM SEVEN AND A.I.D.S. SEMA QUASIJUDICIAL. MY APOLOGIES. MEETING WITH CHRIS CALLED, APPLICANT RECEIVED MINDLESS EMAILS.

>> I HAD A MEETING TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT BRIEF OVERVIEW WITH WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO. WE GOT TO HEAR FROM THE RESIDENCE.

I RECEIVED A DOZEN OR SO EMAILS ON THIS.

>> I ALSO HAD A MEETING AND I RECEIVED A LITTLE BIT OVER 10 EMAILS. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>> CHRIS COLES AND THE STAFF AT THE OFFICE RECEIVED 10 EMAILS AND WAS DISCUSSING THE IMPACT OF THE ISSUES AT THE SCHOOLS.

>> WE DISCUSSED THE PROJECT FOR THE SCHOOL WITH THE OVERALL -- HAVING THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS --.

SAME DISCUSSION I HAD ON BOTH SEVEN AND EIGHT. WE HAD AT LEAST FIVE EMAILS WITH THE CLOSING PROJECT. IT'S A MATTER

OF PUBLIC RECORD. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER

DEAN. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> THANK YOU, MDM. CHAIR.

BEFORE WE START THE PRESENTATION, WHEN EACH IT IS THE ITEM, THIS IS A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING BECAUSE WE HAVE AN APPLICATION TO REMOVE THE SAME 5 ACRES FROM THE TREATY GROUND PUD TO REZONE THE SAME 5 ACRES TO OPEN RURAL.

WE HAD EXPERT WITNESSES. TESTIFIED TODAY . NORMALLY, I WOULD NOT ASK FOR LAYPEOPLE TO BE SWORN IN. BUT WE HAVE SOMEBODY PUTTING HIMSELF OUT TO THE PUBLIC AS AN EXPERT. I WANT TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CROSS-EXAMINE THAT PERSON IF THE NEED ARISES. I WOULD ASK OUR TEAM AND ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WILL BE SPEAKING DURING PUBLIC COMMENT COME IN AND BE SWORN IN BEFORE WE START SO WE ARE ALL CLEAR WE ARE UNDER

OATH. >> I HAVE NO PROBLEM, MR. --?

>> WE CAN HAVE EACH PERSON WHO INTENDS TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM,

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TO COME FORWARD AND STAND BEHIND MRS. SMITH? IF YOU CAN RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE? AND REPEAT AFTER ME. I , STATE YOUR NAME , DO SWEAR AND AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH TODAY IN MY TESTIMONY BEFORE THE BOARD. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, SO, THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE HERE, I DO NOT CUSTOMARILY CROSS-EXAMINE PEOPLE WHO ARE LAY. PEOPLE WHO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THEIR COMMUNITIES. IT IS AN UNUSUAL SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WAS A RESIDENT PUTTING HIMSELF OUT AS AN EXPERT. THAT IS THE PURPOSE AND WE WILL SEE WHERE WE GO FROM HERE. WE WILL BEGIN.

>> GOOD MORNING TO THE BOARD AND TO THE COMMISSION. MY NAME IS --, 2000 CIRCLE JACKSON BEACH FLORIDA. MY COMPANY IS SUMMITS. I AM LOCAL, I WANT TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION I AM AT , AT THE PAST 10 YEARS, WORKING TO PLAY SCHOOLS LIKE THE ONE I AM PROPOSING TODAY. IN COMMUNITIES SUCH AS THE ONE WE ARE CONSIDERING TODAY. MY HISTORY GOES BACK OVER 50 FOR SCHOOLS. THIS SCHOOL TODAY BENEFITS FROM ALL OF THOSE SCHOOLS. THERE IS A VERY INTENTIONAL THOUGHT PUT INTO THE DESIGN. TO THE TRAFFIC. ANSWER THE SAFETY. AND TO THE SAFETY. I STARTED THIS OVER 2 1/2 YEARS AGO TRYING TO FIND AN ADEQUATE PLACE FOR THE SCHOOL. THE NEED WAS DISCOVERED BECAUSE OF THE OVERCROWDING IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM AND LACK OF SCHOOL CHOICE OPTIONS. WE CONSIDERED DOZENS AND DOZENS OF PARCELS OVER THESE YEARS. THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL WAS SELECTED BASED ON THE CRITERIA. AND INSTANCE OF RESEARCH INTO THE COMMUNITY . WE FOUND THERE WAS AN OVERWHELMING NEED AND OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF STUDENTS THAT WILL BE THE POTENTIAL FOR

THE SCHOOL. >> I WANTED TO GIVE THE BACKGROUND TO THE COMMISSION BEFORE ELLEN GAVE HER

PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. >> HERE TO KICK OFF WITH THE POWERPOINT. YOU HAVE ALREADY MET CHRIS WHO IS SUMMIT CONSTRUCTION. SUMMIT IS THE CONTRACT PURCHASER AND IT IS OWNED BY A GENTLEMAN NAMED MR. BACON. IF THE APPLICATION TODAY IS SUCCESSFUL, SUMMIT WILL CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY WITH MR. BACON AND BUILD A CHARTER SCHOOL AND THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER WE WILL ADDRESS TODAY. THE TRAFFIC EXPERT IS JACK HOLES BERG WITH KIMBERLY POINT IN ASSOCIATIONS AND THE CIVIL AGENT EXPERT IS NOT FROM THE CIVIL GULF STREAM DESIGN. WE WILL CALL UPON THE GENTLEMAN AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION IF WE NEED TO BECAUSE WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AT THE END. TO GIVE EVERYONE AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, THE PROPERTY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OVERALL AGAIN, I WILL REFER TO THIS AS THE BACON PROPERTY. IT IS 10 ACRES. IN SIZE. THERE ARE TWO PARCELS WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN JUST A MINUTE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN AN AREA OF STATE ROAD 207 EAST OF I -95. YOU HEARD ABOUT THE ENTRADA CDD AND THE HOMES COMING TO THE COMMUNITY. I WILL START OUT BY SAYING THAT THE OVERARCHING PREMISE OF THE APPLICATION IS TO ADDRESS THE TWO TOP THINGS THIS BOARD ADDRESSES IN ALMOST EVERY MEETING. ONE IS ROAD CAPACITY OR A LACK THEREOF. AND TWO IS SCHOOL CAPACITY OR THE LACK THEREOF. WE WILL TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC TODAY IN THE EXISTING ROADWAY NETWORK IN KEEPING THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY ON THE ROAD WHEN NETWORK IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND TWO, PROVIDING A SCHOOL IN AN AREA WHERE ALL OF THE SCHOOLS ARE OVER CAPACITY. THEY ARE PORTABLE CLASSROOMS IN THE SCHOOL BOARD IS NOT BUILDING ADDITIONAL SCHOOLS IN THE SOUTH PART OF THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW. WE WILL TALK ABOUT ALL OF THAT AS WE GO FORWARD TODAY. AGAIN, THIS IS ZOOMING IN ON THE

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PROPERTY. YOU SEE AGAIN AT 10 ACRES. THIS 5 ACRES HERE IS WITHIN THE TREATY GROUND P.E.D. AND PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

THE 5 ACRES, I'M USING APPROXIMATE IS ZONED OPEN RURAL. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE CLEARING OCCURRING ON THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN ALSO SEE AS A MATTER OF COURSE, THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, TOWNHOMES, HE SEE TREATY PARK. IT IS VERY ACTIVE PARK. NEC COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES OUT ON 207. WE POINT OUT TO YOU I WANT YOU TO KNOW WITH RESPECT TO THE SITE. THESE ARE WETLAND AREAS THAT ARE OWNED BY THE TREATY OAKS ASSOCIATION. AND PART OF THE REASON THAT THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE AND WE WILL TALK THROUGH THIS IN A MINUTE. THIS WAS CHOSEN AS A K-8 CHARTER SCHOOL SITES BECAUSE IT IS PREFERRED FROM THE SURROUNDING HOMES THEN THIS PROPERTY WHICH IS WHERE THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER IS PROPOSED. THAT IS CLOSER TO THE TOWNHOMES. WE WILL TALK THROUGH THE SITE PLAN IN JUST A MINUTE. AGAIN, HERE IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH SHOWING YOU THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT AND THE PARKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THERE IS A SITE THAT IS DESIGNATED AS A FIRE STATION SITE HERE. WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO TREATY PARK. THE PARK WILL BECOME CLOSER TO THESE RESIDENTS AS WELL AS PART OF THE APPLICATION. THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF PROPERTIES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS RESIDENTIAL ESTATE AND WERE NOT SEEKING TO CHANGE THAT. HERE IS THE TREATY GROUND PUD PARCEL AND OPEN ROAD PARCEL. WERE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING WITH RESPECT TO OPEN RURAL. WE ARE ASKING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM PUD TO OLR.

THE PROPERTY IN THE TREATY IS OWED FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL PLAN, YOU SEE THE WETLAND STRAND SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY. HE SEE MULTIFAMILY USE NEC COMMERCIAL USE AND AGAIN. YOU SEE THE RESIDENTIAL IN THIS ENTIRE AREA WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN. WHO ATTEND THE SCHOOLS WE WILL TALK ABOUT ANY MINUTE. AGAIN, THE SITE PLAN AND WE WILL TALK THROUGH THIS.

IT IS A CONCEPTUAL PLAN. AGAIN, HERE IS THE K-8 CHARTER SCHOOL SUPPORTED BY THE FOUNDATION IN THE WETLAND. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE ACCESS WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN MORE DETAIL, YOU SEE THE FACT THAT THE SCHOOL SITE HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO HAVE, THE CHICK-FIL-A METHOD OF PICKING UP KIDS AND DROPPING OFF KIDS.

MEANING, A LOT OF STACKING ON THE SITE. YOU SEE THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC. YOU CAN GET CARDS STACKED ONTO THE PROPERTY AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE QUEUING LENGTH AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE QUEUING LENGTH OTHER SCHOOLS ONTO A SEVEN DIRECTLY IN JUST A MINUTE. -- TRIED VERY HARD WITH MR. -- HELP TO MAKE SURE THIS PROJECT DOES NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE ROAD AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. AND AGAIN, WE WILL TALK ABOUT SOME TERM LENGTHS AND THINGS IN A MINUTE. HE SEE THE STACKING ON THE SIDE NEC PARKING IN THE BUILDING AND FACILITY. HERE'S THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER EASY STACKING ON THAT SITE AND THE STORM WATER RETENTION FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT. THIS WILL BE TWO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS. ONE IS A PUBLIC CHARTER SCHOOL SO IT IS A PUBLIC SCHOOL. FREE TO THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ATTEND THERE. IT SERVES GRADES K THROUGH EIGHT WITH A MAXIMUM OF 960 STUDENTS. THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE O.R. ZONED PROPERTY WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM ENROLLMENT OF 220. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THESE SCHOOLS WILL COME ONLINE AND A PROPOSED COME ONLINE IN THE FALL OF 2025. THE IDEA IS TO GET THEM UP TO 50% OR SO IN THE CAPACITY TO GET RINGS BROKEN IN THE SCHOOL AND GET PEOPLE FAMILIAR WITH THE CHARTER SCHOOL IN THE COUNTY. AND INCREASE THE ENROLLMENT IN YEARS TWO AND 3 TO 100% CAPACITY. HERE IS WHAT THE ACADEMY WILL LOOK LIKE. AND THEN, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SITE ACCESS. BECAUSE WE KNOW THE RESIDENCE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC. WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THEY ARE RAISING BY SHOWING, HERE IS A VENTURA AVENUE. I MAY HAVE SAID IT WRONG, I APOLOGIZE. YOU SEE IT IS CLOSER TO 207. THEN THE SCHOOL. PEOPLE WHO ARE EXITING THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL GOING INTO OUT OF SESSION, THEY CAN GO OUT AND GO TO 207 AND --

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WITHOUT PASSING BY THE SCHOOL. THAT IS THE FIRST THING. THE SECOND THING IS, THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO PAY TO CONSTRUCT SIX TURN LANES ON BRINKERHOFF ROAD TO KEEP THE MAIN LINE OF THE ROAD OPEN WHILE PEOPLE ARE GOING INTO AND OUT OF THE SCHOOL. AND SO, YOU CAN SEE THE TURN LANES COMING LEFT IN, RIGHT IN , AND COMING LEFT OUT AND RIGHT IN. WE WILL LOOK AT THE MOVEMENT IN A MINUTE. YOU CAN SEE LANES 4K -8 AND SEPARATE TURN LANES FOR THE TURN CENTER ON THE BREAKOFF ROAD. YOU CAN SEE THE BLUE IS ENTERING TRAFFIC. LEFT AND ONLY, RIGHT OUT ONLY. THE ACCESS POINTS, CARS COME IN.

LEFT 10. AND THEN THEY CAN COME OUT ONLY LEFT OUT. THEY CANNOT.

RIGHT IN AND WRITE OUT. THE CIRCULATION HE CAN SEE THE STACKING OF THE CARS IN THE LANE BETTER WITH THE AVAILABLE CAPACITY ON THE PROPERTY IN THE SLIDE. AND HE SEE THINGS LIKE CROSSWALKS. WE ARE HOPING PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE TREATY COMMUNITY AND OTHER COMMUNITY SURROUNDING WILL WALK OR BIKE THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL. IF THEY GET IN CARS, THERE IS AN ACCESS PLAN AND CHRIS CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THAT IN MORE DETAIL WHEN WE COME TO THAT POINT. AND THEN FOR THE TRAFFIC IMPACT, THERE IS A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF. AND THEY HAVE NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

THEY LOOK THE TRAFFIC STUDY WITH MR. HALLSBURG AND WORK THROUGH THE SIDE ACCESS POINT AND STAFF HAS NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS WITH RESPECT TO THE STUDY. THAT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW BECAUSE THAT IS YOUR COUNTY'S PROFESSIONAL STAFF.

THEY ANALYZE THEIR PROPOSED DRIVEWAY INTERSECTION WITH THE BRINKERHOFF AS WELL AS 207. BRINKERHOFF, TWIN LAKES DR. IN WILDWOOD AND BRINKERHOFF IN THAT STUDY. THERE WAS AN ANALYSIS THAT RECOMMENDED THE SPECIFIC TRAFFIC ROUTING WHICH I SHOWED YOU IN THE VIEWING FLIGHT BEFORE THIS. THE SIGNAL IS NEEDED AT 207 AND BRINKERHOFF. NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. THE COUNTIES IN THE WORKS IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THAT SIGNAL AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS DESIGNS. HOPEFULLY THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS INSTALLED BEFORE THE SCHOOL OPENS IN AUGUST 2025. IF IT IS NOT, THE GENTLEMAN WILL PAY FOR TRAFFIC PATROL OFFICERS IN THE A.M. PEAK HOURS TO DIRECT TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF BRINKERHOFF ROAD AT 207 UNTIL THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS OPERATIONAL. ALSO, THE PROJECT EVEN THOUGH THEY REMOVE THE PROPERTY FROM THE PUD, MR. -- AGREED TO PAY 375,000 OR SO DOLLARS TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY TOWARD THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL. HE IS HELPING TO PAY FOR SOLUTION THAT THE TREATY OAKS DEVELOPER LEFT BEHIND. THAT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM STAFF THAT THE MONEY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PAID BY ANOTHER PARTY AND IT NEVER HAPPENED. SO, THIS GENTLEMAN AS WELL AS MR. SHE HELPING TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE AND GET THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL INSTALLED AT THAT INTERSECTION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AGAIN. IT'S RECOMMENDED FOR EVERY DRIVEWAY BEING PROVIDED AT THIS APPLICANT'S EXPENSE. THE SIGNAGE WAS SUSPENDED, WHICH THEY WILL ALSO PAY FOR. THE REDUCED SPEED SCHOOL ZONE WAS NOT RECOMMENDED BECAUSE OF THE KNOWN NUMBER EXPECTED OF STUDENT CROSSINGS. I ALSO WANT TO MENTION TO YOU THAT THIS PROJECT WILL LEAVE A BOND BEHIND. WHEN THE SCHOOL IS OPEN, THERE WILL BE A BOND POSTED WITH THE COUNTY FOR ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS TO BRINKERHOFF ROAD IF THERE ARE ANY PROBLEMS WITH ACCESS ON THE SITE STACKING ON THE SITES, THAT KIND OF THING AND TERM LENGTH. I MENTIONED TO YOU. THE 370+ THOUSAND DOLLARS CONTRIBUTION FROM THIS PROJECT. WE TALKED ABOUT THE WIDENING OF BRINKERHOFF ROAD AND SEVERAL SECTIONS TO PROVIDE TERM LENGTH INTO AND OUT OF THE SITE SO PEOPLE WHO ACCESS THE ROAD AND I WILL MENTION TO YOU IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY IT SAYS THERE IS , ABOUT 50% CAPACITY. IT HAS 50% CAPACITY REMAINING. FOR THE SCHOOL AND OTHER PROJECTS. THIS APPLICATION IS PROVIDING, OR THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING TERM LANES TO GET SCHOOL TRAFFIC INTO AND OUT OF THE SITE WITHOUT IMPEDING TRAFFIC FLOW ON BRINKERHOFF ROAD. THERE IS ALSO A STUDENT DROP-OFF AND

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PICKUP AREA WHICH WE WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IN A MINUTE AND THEY DON'T SHOW YOU THE SIGNIFICANT QUEUING CAPACITY ON THE SITES. IT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS THAT ARE THE OLDER PUBLIC SCHOOLS OR PARENTS DROVE THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL EVERYDAY. WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT. IF I MISSED ANYTHING, FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN. THERE ARE EIGHT STAFF MEMBERS WHO WERE OUT THERE TO ASSIST WITH DROP-OFF AND PICKUP OF STUDENTS. THERE IS AN ELECTRONIC SYSTEM BUT I THINK SOME OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH BAD SIGNALS WHEN A PARENT HAS COME ONTO THE CAMPUS. SO THAT, THE TEACHERS CAN GET THOSE PARTICULAR STUDENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PARENTS. THERE MAY BE ONE OR MORE. IF STUDENTS WILL GO IN THE SAME CAR. ABOUT 15 TO 20% OF STUDENTS AT ANY OF THE SCHOOLS BE AT THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER OR K-8 AIDS ARRIVED IN THE SAME VEHICLE.

SOME PARENTS HAVE MORE THAN ONE STUDENT AT THE SCHOOL. I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT, TOO. I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE SCHOOL BELL SCHEDULE CHRIS HAS TAKEN A LOT OF TIME TO ANALYZE THE STARTING TIMES FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN THIS AREA TO MAKE SURE HIS SCHOOL, BOTH ACTUALLY, ARE COMING IN EARLIER AND LETTING OUT EITHER EARLIER OR LATER AND WE WILL LOOK THROUGH THE DETAIL IN A MINUTE TO ALLEVIATE PASS BY, IF YOU WILL, COMPETING SCHOOL TRAFFIC. SO, HERE ARE THE EXCERPTS FROM THE PLAN. I WON'T BORE YOU WITH ALL THE DETAILS. STUDENTS ARE NOT ALLOWED TOGETHER OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL. IT IS A SOPHISTICATED ELECTRONIC SYSTEM. PARENTS ARE GUIDED IN AND STAFF CONTROL THE FLOW OF CARS INTO AND OUT OF THE SIDES.

NOT STOPPING -- NOT STACKING UP ON BRINKERHOFF ROAD. THERE HAVE BEEN, TO RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY CONCERNED ABOUT IT, THE A.M. PEAK HOUR IS ABOUT 8:15 IN THE MORNING. YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS NUMBER. THE REDLINE IS WITH THE TRAFFIC COUNTS FOR BRINKERHOFF ROAD. HE SEE A 15 SEEMS TO BE THE PEAK CAPACITY ON BRINKERHOFF. IT IS A TABLE FROM THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT SHOWS YOU THE TURNING MOVEMENTS ONTO VARIOUS DRIVEWAYS FOR THE SCHOOL, GRANITE AVE., TWIN LAKES DRIVE.

AND YOU SEE ALL THE COUNTS OF CARS AND WHICH DIRECTIONS THEY GO. THIS PROPOSED SCHOOL. THE A.M. PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC IS BETWEEN 7:45 AND SEVEN AND 7:55 IN THE MORNING. IT IS BEFORE THE PEAK HOUR ON BRINKERHOFF IN THE MORNING. THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER AND K-8 WILL OPEN EARLY AT 6:30 FOR EARLY DROP-OFF FOR THOSE PARENTS WHO NEED TO GET TO WORK. SOME STUDENTS WILL ARRIVE AT 6:30 AND OF COURSE, WILL BE DROPPED OFF IN THE MORNING BY 7:55 FOR SCHOOL TO START AT 8:00 IN THE MORNING.

BEFORE THE A.M. PEAK ON BRINKERHOFF ROAD. CHRIS HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF LOOKING AT HERE IS THE PROPOSED SCHOOL.

HERE'S THE QUEUING CAPACITY ON THE SITES. 4671 FEET OF QUEUING CAPACITY ON THE SITES. RJ MARY WEBSTER SCHOOL. GAMBLE AND ROGERS. HE ANALYZED ALL THE SCHOOLS. THE AVAILABLE QUEUING CAPACITY IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS. LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT OTIS MASON AND OSCEOLA, YOU LOOK AT THE QUEUING CAPACITY AND YOU KNOW WHY THE CARDS ARE STACKED UP ON 2207. BOTH SCHOOLS DON'T HAVE ENOUGH QUEUING CAPACITY AND THE ACCESS IS DIRECTLY OFF STATE ROAD 207. THEY WILL PROVIDE THREE TIMES OR MORE OF THE QUEUING CAPACITY ON SITE WITH THE ACCESS NOT TO A SEVEN.

IT'LL START AT 8:00. HE SEE OTIS MASON STARTS AT 825 SODAS OSCEOLA. AND WEBSTER SCHOOL , HARTLEY AT 8:25, AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT 7:30. THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS AT 815. AND THEN,: 30 AND THE LET OUT TIMES AS WELL. SHE HAS DONE A GREAT DEAL OF ANALYSIS MAKING SURE THE SCHOOLS, THIS K-8 IS NOT COMPETING FOR TRAFFIC CAPACITY ON THE ROADWAY SYSTEM WITH THE EXISTING PUBLIC SCHOOLS. INTO T THE SITES, YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THERE ARE SOME LOCATIONS IN THE PARKING. THE PARENTS COME IN

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AND THEY STACK UP AND WAIT BY THE CONES. STAFF MEMBERS ARE OUT HERE TO GUIDE THEM INTO AND OUT OF THE SIDE TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY BEHAVES AND MOVES ALONG. NO SITTING AND TEXTING IN YOUR CAR. THEY STACK THE CARS HERE. STUDENTS ARE LOADED IN THE CARS AND ONCE THEY ARE LOADED IN THE CARDS, THE VEHICLES ARE RELEASED. AND OTHER VEHICLES COME IN. YOU DON'T HAVE A HUGE FLOW OF TRAFFIC GOING ON TO BRINKERHOFF ROAD AT THE SAME TIME. IT IS TIMED WITH THE STAFF TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT DISRUPTING THROUGH TRAFFIC ON BRINKERHOFF ROAD. THIS IS ENVIRONMENTAL INFORMATION. I FORGOT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO RYAN CARTER WHO IS THE PROJECT ENVIRONMENTALIST. IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WETLANDS AND SPECIES, HE IS HERE TO ANSWER THEM. AND THEN, I WILL NOT GO INTO ALL OF THIS ABOUT WHAT IS A CHARTER SCHOOL. BUT I THINK THEY ARE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. THEY ARE NOT PRIVATE SCHOOLS.

THIS CHARTER SCHOOL IN PARTICULAR HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS NO PLANS TO BUILD ADDITIONAL SCHOOL CAPACITY IN THE SOUTH PART OF THE COUNTY. THE NEW SCHOOLS THAT ARE OPENING ARE GOING TO BE IN THE CRITIQUE AND ENSURE WATER. THE FOLLOWING YEAR IN RIVERTOWN. THAT IS IN THE NORTH PART OF THE COUNTY NOT THE SOUTH PARTS. WE STILL HAVE A SCHOOL CAPACITY PROBLEM. FOR THE RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE SOUTH PART OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

AGAIN. I WILL LET CHRIS SPEAK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT MY HISTORY OF CHARTER SCHOOLS USA. THEY HAVE NEARLY 100 SCHOOL SERVING ANYONE THOUSAND STUDENTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND THE DUVAL COUNTY SCHOOL WHICH WILL SHOW YOU THE COMPARISON. IT IS IN A SCHOOL. THEY ARE GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO.

STUPID A PUBLIC SCHOOL NOT TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD. GOING TO SCHOOL GRADES. THE SCHOOL WILL BE SIMILAR TO THE DUVALL CHARTER SCHOOL AT --. THE SCHOOL HAS GRADES A AND YOU SEE HERE, HERE IS OTIS MASON, AND RJ MARY.

ACROSS THE TOP IS THE SISTER SCHOOL TO THIS ONE. GRADE A SCHOOLS. AND YOU ALSO SEE OTIS MASON. HAS BEEN PRETTY MUCH IN A SCHOOL. AND THEY HAVE HAD B, A, AND C IN RECENT YEARS. GOING TO THE NUMBERS. THE NEED FOR THE SCHOOLS IN THIS AREA. IF YOU WANT TO MOVE THE SLIDE? I CAN TELL HE WANTS TO CHIME IN

BECAUSE THERE ARE SLIDES. >> I WANT TO POINT OUT ON THE SLIDE. THROUGH EXTENSIVE RESEARCH OF THE COUNTY AND ANALYSIS OF WHERE THE MOST NEED IS, THAT LED US TO THIS LOCATION. I HIGHLIGHTED THERE AN INDICATION OF A 10 MINUTE DRIVE TIME WITH 3576 SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN THAT ARE WITHIN THE 10 MINUTE DRIVE. THAT A SUBSTANTIAL COMPARING OTHER AREAS. NOT ONLY A HUGE AMOUNT OF SCHOOL-AGE KIDS IN THIS AREA BUT ALSO CONTINUES TO BE GROSS. WE LOOK AT THE AVERAGE AGE OF THE RESIDENCE AT 43.8 YEARS OLD. IT TELLS US THERE ARE A LOT OF FAMILIES IN THIS AREA. IDENTIFYING THE NEED BASED ON GROWTH ON THE EXISTING STUDENTS IN THE MARKET NOW.

WITH THE LACK OF AVAILABILITY OF SCHOOL SEATS IN GENERAL. BUT ALSO AN OVERCAPACITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS. I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE ON THIS. THERE IS -- BUT FIRST, WHAT GOT OUR ATTENTION AS THIS ARTICLE IN 2022. THE PORTABLES BEING PLACED IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WAS BIG NEWS. I'M A DUVAL COUNTY PERSON. FOLLOWING THE NEWS, IT WAS SUBSTANTIAL. FAST-FORWARD TWO YEARS, THERE ARE PORTABLE BUILDINGS IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM TODAY. THAT'S MORE THAN 13,000 SEATS AND 26% OF THE STUDENT BODY AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOLS. ITEMS HAVE LETTUCE HERE AND MORE SPECIFICALLY LETTUCE TO BRINKERHOFF ROAD.

THIS IS IN MY VIEW, THE EPICENTER OF NEED FOR THE

SCHOOL. >> LET ME ASK BEFORE HE GOES.

IS THERE AYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD BEFORE THAT?

>> SURE. BRIEFLY. CHARTER SCHOOLS WHEN THEY MAKE AN APPLICATION TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IF THEY HAVE A HIGH-PERFORMING SCHOOL, THEY HAVE IN THEIR SYSTEM. IF THEY OPERATE A SCHOOL GETTING A'S, THEY CAN

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CHOOSE TO TAKE THE SAME CURRICULUM AND REPLICATE THIS IN A NEW SCHOOL. THAT'S WHAT WAS CHOSEN TO DO HERE. THE SLIDE WAS BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC AND WANTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE SCHOOL. I'M DRAWING A COMPARISON TO THE SCHOOL IN EXISTENCE TODAY AND HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS. THE INTENTION IS TO REPLICATE THE CURRICULUM FOR THE RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

>> STUDENTS APPROXIMATELY. THEY HAVE CLUSTERS OF PORTABLE BUILDINGS. EACH HAS 700 STUDENTS ENROLLED THERE TODAY.

THEY ARE OPERATING OVERDESIGNED CAPACITY.

>> I BELIEVE THAT FINISHES OUR PRESENTATION AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. WE HAVE EXPERTS HERE IF YOU WANT TO ASK ANYTHING OF THEM.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION I WAS WELL-VERSED ON THE PROJECT. I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF ABOUT THE TIMING OF THAT TRAFFIC LIGHTS COMING IN AT 207 AND BRINKERHOFF. I KNOW THE BOARD APPROVED THAT A FEW MONTHS BACK. I WANT TO FIND OUT WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.

>> IT IS NOT TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IT IS AFTER WE FINISH THE QUESTIONS. WE WILL ANNOUNCE IT.

>> GROWTH MANAGEMENT. THE SIGNAL IS UNDER REVIEW. WE RECEIVED 60% PLANS AT THE COUNTY STAFF AS WELL AS D.O.T. MOVING FURTHER TO 90%. WE WILL START LOOKING AT PROCUREMENTS TRYING TO WORK THE PROCESS THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS AND THE DEPARTMENT TO GET THE CONTRACT UP AND RUNNING GOING TO INSTALL THAT.

BASED OFF THE LEAD TIME WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, 10 MONTHS OR SO. GIVE OR TAKE SOME OF THE LONGER LEAD ITEMS. SOME ITEMS ARE RUNNING LONGER WITH PROCUREMENT. THAT'S THE ANTICIPATED SCHEDULE AT THIS TIME.

>> HOW IS IT PAID FOR? >> THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH THE RECRUITMENT GROUP . THE PROJECT WAS NOT NECESSARILY IDENTIFIED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CONTEMPLATED UTILIZING THE SPONSORED IMPROVEMENT IN THE QUARTER. WE HAVE A PROPORTIONATE SHARE FOR THE USERS CONTRIBUTED TO THE INTERSECTION PAYING INTO THAT. THEIR FUNDS SHOULD BE APPROVED IT WILL ALSO PAY INTO IT. ANY USERS THAT, SO LONG IT WILL ALSO BE CONTRIBUTING THEIR SHARE. IN THE COMPLEX SPECIFICALLY FOR BRINKERHOFF. THE PUBLIC DID NOT PAY INTO THIS ONE. THE DIRECT ACCESS IS NOT THROUGH BRINKERHOFF ROAD BUT 207. THEY DID NOT , WE STIPULATED EVERYBODY GOING INTO THE AGREEMENTS WITH THE IMPACT FEES THAT THEY CANNOT TRANSFER THE FEES IF THEY HAVE ANY ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC SPECIFICALLY. IT CANNOT BE FUNDED THROUGH THE OTHER PAYMENTS THAT ARE BASICALLY A PSEUDO-PROP SHARE FOR THE

SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION. >> THE KANGAROOS GOING THERE IN THE BANK, IT IS -- DO WE KNOW WHEN IT'LL BE GOING IN THERE?

>> THE BANK MIGHT LEAD AND I DON'T KNOW THE FULL CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE. I ANTICIPATED BEING ONLINE IS THE SAME TIME THE SIGNAL WOULD BE AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> BANK YOU, MDM. CHAIR. YOU MENTIONED IT IS A PUBLIC SCHOOL NOT A PRIVATE SCHOOL. IS THE MONEY TO CONSTRUCT THE SCHOOL PUBLIC TAX DOLLARS? IS A

PRIVATELY FUNDED? >> I WILL LET THE CHARTER SCHOOL EXPERT ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THE SCHOOL IS DEVELOPED WITH PRIVATE MONEY AND TAKES OUT A LOAN AGAINST ITS FUTURE ENROLLMENTS. THE CHARTER SCHOOL DOES NOT RECEIVE FUNDS UNTIL STUDENTS ARE ENROLLED IN TAKING THE CLASS THERE. THAT REVENUE FOR THE SCHOOL DOES NOT START UNTIL THE SCHOOL IS OPEN AND THE KIDS ARE IN THEIR LEARNING. THE MONEY IS BORROWED AGAINST

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THAT. NO PUBLIC FUNDS ARE USED TO CONSTRUCT THE FACILITY.

>> EVERY STUDENT ENROLLED, YOU GET MONEY FROM THE STATES.

EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THAT WORKS. >> THERE IS A BASE AMOUNT AWARDED TO BOTH THE PUBLIC SCHOOL CHARTER SCHOOL BASED ON THE VALUE OF THE STATE . THE MONEY FOLLOWS THE STUDENTS ESSENTIALLY. IF THEY ENROLL IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL, THE MONEY GOES THERE. IF IT GOES TO THE STUDENT WITH THE CHARTER SCHOOL THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY GOES THERE. THAT IS FOR THE BASE AMOUNT OF FUNDING. THERE IS ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT GOES INTO THIS FOR THE MOST PART. CHARTER SCHOOLS DO NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. THERE WAS A MENTION OF AN EARLIER ITEM ABOUT IMPACT FEES BEING USED IN BOTH SCHOOLS. NONE OF THOSE ARE

BEING USED TO BUILD THE SCHOOL. >> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> THERE ARE TWO THINGS I WILL ALWAYS REMAIN POSITIVE ABOUT. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NUCLEAR FUSION AND NUCLEAR FISSION. I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THAT. I MAY SOMEDAY. ANOTHER ONE I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND. IF OTIS MASON ELEMENTARY , I THINK THEY ARE OVER 700. I THOUGHT WE HAD THAT

DISCUSSION. >> I DON'T WANT TO OVER ESTIMATES BUT I BELIEVE THEY ARE CLOSE TO 800.

>> IT WAS OFFERED TO US THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS ZERO PLANS FOR PUTTING ANY MORE SCHOOLS IN THE SOUTH AND THE COUNTY? THAT IS THE SECOND THING I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I GUESS WE NEED MORE JOINT MEETINGS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD TO DISCUSS THAT FURTHER. IT SEEMS , LET ME SAY, SURPRISING I DON'T WANT IS THE WORD SHOCKING. IT'S SURPRISING TO ME HOW WE CAN AS A COUNTY BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE EXTREME OVERCROWDING IN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM. IN THIS CASE, THERE IS NO PLANS TO ADDRESS IT. I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT IT OFF ON THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. BUT I AM RAISING THE QUESTION . AT WHAT POINT DO WE PROVIDE SCHOOLS FOR WHAT JOE -- IF YOU REMEMBER, I MEAN, EVEN IF WE DON'T APPROVE. ANOTHER PROJECT, RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS GOING FORWARD STARTING AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE STILL HAVE A HUGE NUMBER OF BACK LOGS A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DRI'S AND PUD THAT I HAVE BEEN HARPING ON NOW FOR TWO YEARS.

THAT WERE ALL APPROVED BEFORE 2016 WHEN NONE OF US WERE HERE IN THOSE HOMES WILL BE BILLED ON, I WILL TELL YOU. WE SEEM TO STILL BID WITH A DISCONNECT. WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. I HAD TO SHARE THAT BECAUSE IT IS ODD TO ME THAT IS WHERE WE ARE.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER TEAM -- DEAN. YOU DID RECEIVE APPROVAL FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, CORRECT?

>> YES, MDM. CHAIR. THEY APPROVED THE CHARTER SOME TIME

AGO. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER

JOSEPH. >> I'M IN SHOCKED WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER DEAN SAID SINCE HE APPROVED 5000 HOMES. AND WHITEHURST, 12,000. I'M OPEN TO THE FREE MARKET. IT MAKES THE PUBLIC SCHOOL BETTER AND A CHARTER SCHOOL. I'M A MOM OF A CHARTER SCHOOL STUDENTS. I HOMESCHOOL HER NOW. SHE HAD CHARTER SCHOOL FROM SIXTH GRADE THROUGH 11TH GRADE. IT IS AWESOME. SHE IS DOING BETTER. I'M SORRY, IT'S TIME TO GET KIDS OUT OF THE PORTABLES AND FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE FROM TREE PARK. I LIVE NEXT TO A SCHOOL. IT IS AWESOME BECAUSE IT IS CLOSED IN THE SUMMER AND AT NIGHT. THE TRAFFIC FOR THE FEW MOMENTS OF THE DAY GOES AWAY. I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD TRY TO THINK ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT IS REALLY MUCH BETTER THAN A WHOLE BUNCH OF HOUSES IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M 100% FOR IT.

PLEASE BUILD ONE, THANKS. >> THANK YOU. WITH NO FURTHER COMMENTS AND DISCUSSIONS FOR THE BOARD, LET US HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE ARE SOME MORE PEOPLE THEY MAY NEED TO BE SWORN IN, CORRECT? IF THERE ARE ANY PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT SWORN IN AT THE BEGINNING AND WOULD LIKE TO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

OKAY. >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. REPEAT AFTER ME. I, STATE YOUR NAME , DO SWEAR AND AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH TODAY BEFORE THE BOARD . THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, MDM. CHAIR, WE DO HAVE A DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE, MR. JEFF PETRY SUBMITTED A LIST OF 50 FOLKS

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WHO EXCEEDED THEIR TIME FOR HIM TO SPEAK THAT ALLOWS HIM 10 MINUTES UNDER YOUR POLICY. ANYBODY WHO EXCEEDED THEIR TIME IS NOT ALLOWED TO COME UP AND SPEAK FOR THE THREE MINUTES. I

WILL BE MONITORING THE LIST. >> IF WE CAN HEAR FROM MR. PETRY FIRST, I APPRECIATE THAT. WHAT'S THE KEY TO WATCH THE

VIDEO? >> JEFF PETRIE. 699 SANDSTONE DR. FOR THE RECORD. I AM AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY. WITH THE UNENVIABLE POSITION OF BEING A PEER BEFORE YOU TODAY.

I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THIS PROJECT ON BEHALF OF AT LEAST 50 OF MY NEIGHBORS. WHEN THE REVIEW CAME IN, I RECUSED MYSELF FROM ANY INPUT OR REVIEW AND I WORK IN THE --. FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION, THIS IS NOT A REFERENDUM ON SCHOOLS. IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. THIS IS ABOUT LOCATION. ABOUT WHERE THE SCHOOL IS LOCATED AND THE EFFECTS IT WILL HAVE ON THE RESIDENCE. I NEVER FELT MORE LIKE -- GIVEN MY SIZE -- LIKE DAVID TODAY THAN BEFORE. ALL THE GREEN AREAS THERE, THAT IS ALL RESIDENTIAL. ENCLAVE TREATY OAKS AND TROTTED TO THE NORTH AND TWIN LAKES RIGHT THERE. THE BLACK DOT IN THE MIDDLE IS WHERE THE SCHOOL WILL GO. IT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THE CONCERNS THE PEOPLE HAVE OUR TRAFFIC. SAFETY, AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES THAT'LL COME ALONG WITH SCHOOL. THE TRAFFIC PROPOSED ASSOCIATED WITH THE SCHOOL'S HEAVY BURDEN TO BE PLACED ON WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A LOCAL ROAD . MAYBE IT HAS 50%

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CAPACITY? IF WE USE UP TO 50% NOW, WHAT DO WE HAVE LEFT FOR THE FUTURE? AS A TRAFFIC -- I DID NOT MENTION THIS BY THE WAY. PRIOR TO MY EMPLOYMENT AT THE COUNTY, I SPENT MY CAREER AS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER IN THE NEW YORK METRO AREA. I HAVE 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. I HAVE DONE DOZENS OF STUDIES. MY CONCERNS WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY ARE THE TRIP GENERATION ESTIMATES . TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND OPERATION. THE SCHOOL OPERATION IN THE QUEUING MODEL AND WHAT THE MITIGATION MIGHT BE IN THE FUTURE. ADDITIONAL CONCERNS ARE QUALITY-OF-LIFE ISSUES AND NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND THE BIG QUESTION IS WHAT IS. WHAT ARE THE PROJECTIONS ARE WRONG? WHAT IF THE PROJECTIONS ARE WRONG AND THE 12 POINT SYSTEM OF MANAGING TRAFFIC FLOW FAILS? WHAT IF DEMAND IS HIGHER THAN THE POINTS PROJECTED? ONCE IT IS OUT OF THE BOX, IT IS NOT GOING BACK IN. WE KNOW WE HAVE A PROPOSED SLEW OF 960 STUDENTS, SGT. 20 DAY CARE, 50 OR SO STAFF, PLUS SERVICE AND DELIVERY. THE SCHOOL WILL GENERATE 1160 A.M. TRIPS. 1160 A.M. TRIPS. 619 DURING THE P.M. I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE IS A DIFFERENCE? IT IS SPREAD OUT OVER MORE HOURS. OTHER HOURS THAT MY PICK UP THE REST OF THE TRIPS. BY RIGHT, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF HOUSES THAT MIGHT BE BUILT. 30 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS. IT SHOULD SAY 60, I'M SORRY. 30 ON EACH 5 ACRE SITE. THAT'S A TOTAL OF 75 TRIPS. FAR LESS IMPACTFUL THAN THE SCHOOL. THESE ARE IMPACTS. IT IS DEFINITELY AN IMPACT AND WE WILL FEEL IT. THAT NUMBER I SHOWED YOU, WHAT THEY PROJECT AT, 15 TIMES GREATER THAN IF THEY BUILT IT AS ITSELF. 15 TIMES GREATER IN THE A.M. AND EIGHT TIMES IN THE PN. AN ADDITIONAL 1088 TRIPS PUT ON THE ROAD THAN WHAT OTHERWISE WOULD BE THERE. I WOULD SETTLE FOR WHAT IS THERE. IF WE USE THAT CAPACITY NOW. THERE IS NOTHING LEFT FOR THE 8% GROWTH 5% ANNUAL GROWTH. THAT IS HOW CONGESTION BUILT AND IS CREATED. WE FILL IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN RIGHT NOW AND WE WILL DEAL WITH THE FUTURE WHEN THE FEATURE COMES. SO, THE TRAFFIC OPERATIONS ANALYSIS WAS IN A PACKAGE CALLED SYNCHRO. I WORKED WITH IT FOR MANY YEARS AND IT IS AN EXCELLENT PACKAGE. WHAT WE SHOULD BE SEEING OUT OF SYNCHRO IS A SIMULATION OF WHAT THE ROAD WILL LOOK LIKE. UP ON THE SCREEN IS A SCREENSHOT FROM A VIDEO THAT SHOWS YOU EVERY SINGLE CAR IN THAT SYSTEM AND WHAT IT IS DOING AND HOW IT IS DOING. WHO WAS BLOCKING WHAT. ALL OF IT COULD BE OUTPUT BUT WE HAVE NOT SEEN IT. AS AN ENGINEER, THAT IS WHAT I WOULD ASK FOR. THE ON-SITE QUEUING AREA IS ESSENTIALLY A TOLLBOOTH. YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF CARS COMING IN STORING THE FOUR LANE WIDE THOUSAND FOOT LONG QUEUING AREA. AND BEING PROCESSED AT A SPECIFIC RATE AS VEHICLES COME IN AND UNLOAD AND RELOAD AND LEAVE. FINALLY, THE LAST ONE THERE. THE RESULTS WERE GIVEN AS A BUILD CONDITION. BUT NO RESULTS WERE GIVEN FOR WHAT THE EXISTING FUTURE NO BUILD AND FUTURE BUILD THAT IS WHAT WE GOT. WITH THE FUTURE BUILD BY RIGHTS WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL. THOSE WHO ANALYZE THE RESULTS SHOULD BE PRESENTED SO WE HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF THE AGGRESSION OF WHAT THE IMPACTS ACTUALLY ARE. THESE ARE THE STUDY INTERSECTIONS. WHAT IS MISSING ARE THE DRIVEWAYS FOR THE OAKS.

AND ORCHARD PARK. THOSE INTERSECTIONS WERE NOT ANALYZED AT ALL. ALL THE RESIDENCE -- THE RESIDENCE LEAVING FOR THE TREATY OAKS, WERE NOT SURE HOW LONG IT'LL TAKE. WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE INTERSECTION WILL PERFORM. THEY WERE ALL STOPPED CONTROL. THOSE ARE THE TWO IN THE RED, THE INTERSECTIONS THAT

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WERE LEFT OUT. IT IS A LEVEL OF SERVICE. THAT IS ANOTHER SIGNAL IN THE FUTURE. WHO WILL PAY FOR THAT? WILDWOOD AND --? THEY WILL NEED A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. THE TAKE AWAY HERE IS THE ROOT IS WHERE GOOGLE DIRECTS PEOPLE. CUTTING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WHATEVER GROWTH YOU SEE ON 207 AND WHATEVER GROWTH ON WILDWOOD IN ADDITION TO THE SCHOOL. IT IS A PEER BECAUSE IT IS A SHORTER DRIVE AND GOING UP TO THE ENTRADA ENTRANCE. AND THAT ENTRADA IS BEING BUILT OUT, PEOPLE ARE AVOIDING THE INTERSECTION. THE KEY ELEMENT TO THE ANALYSIS IS THE PERFECT CONTROL OF THE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THE SITE.

YOU CAN COME IN ONE WAY AND LEAVE ANOTHER WAY. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT WORK. PEOPLE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO TRAFFIC SIGNALS. THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT. I DON'T HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE THAT IS A WORKABLE PLAN. AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC CALCULATOR, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. I'VE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT. THEY USE AN OLD VERSION FROM 2016, NOT THE CURRENT 2021 MODEL. SORRY, I REPEATED MYSELF. THE OLD VERSION PRODUCES SOMETHING CALLED A SEARCH. IN THIS MODEL. THEY ANALYZED THE AVERAGE PEAK PERIOD AND A SEARCH PEAK PERIOD. IN TRAFFIC, WE PLAN FOR THE WORST CASE SCENARIO. THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IS A SEARCH PEAK. THIS IS IN THE ANALYSIS. IT IS 30% HIGHER THAN THE AVERAGE QUEUE. THEY PROVIDE ENOUGH OF THE AVERAGE QUEUE NEEDING 30% MORE ROOM. FOR THE SEARCH. THAT IS 5280 SEATS. MY 4000. THE TRAFFIC MODEL SAYS THE MODEL ARRIVES OVER 30 MINUTE PERIOD . I THINK THEY SAID A 90 MINUTE PERIOD. IF IT ARRIVES AT OVER 30 MINUTE PERIOD, THEY WILL HAVE TO PROCESS 13 VEHICLES PER MINUTE. MAY I CONTINUE?

>> I'M SORRY, ONLY 10 MINUTES. THANK YOU.

>> MDM. CHAIR, I HAD TWO QUICK QUESTIONS FOR MR. PETRIE.

>> OKAY. >> IS IT YOUR JOB IN ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY TO REVIEW TRAFFIC STUDIES?

>> I REVIEW TRAFFIC CONDITIONS. >> STUDIES.

>> NO, THAT IS NOT MY ROLE. >> I POINT OUT TO YOU. HAVE YOU READ THE STAFF REPORT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT

RELATED TO THE REZONING? >> NO I HAVEN'T.

>> THIS IS IN THE RECORD FROM THE TRANSPORTATION STAFF THEN REVIEWED THE STUDY AND FOUND NO PROBLEMS WITH IT. I WANTED ON THE RECORD NONE OF THE ALLEGED DEFICIENCIES IS TO PETRI MENTIONED ARE MENTIONED BY YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND THE CONCURRENCY TRANSPORTATION REVIEW ANALYSIS. THIS CLEARLY SAYS BRINK OFF-ROAD IS OPERATING AT 49.8% OF CAPACITY AND I WANT IT'S NOTED ON THE RECORD PICKING APART HIS OWN STAFFS REVIEW WHEN IT IS CLEARLY IN THE STAFF REPORT THEY SIGNED OFF ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT IS ALL I WANTED TO

OFFER. >> I'M NOT PICKING APART MY STAFF REVIEW. I'M PRESENTING AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN REPRESENTING THE INTEREST OF 50 PEOPLE. I TOLD YOU. IT'S NOT AN ENVIABLE POSITION TO BE IN. HOWEVER? I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF IT WAS

VIEWED BY A TRAFFIC ENGINEER. >> I'M SORRY?

>> WAS IT REVIEWED BY A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

>> I'M AN ATTORNEY, NOT SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION.

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HE PUT HIMSELF UP HERE. PLEASE, I WILL ANSWER. THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS PREPARED BY THE PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC ENGINEER LICENSED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA BUT NOT REVIEWED. THANK

YOU. >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL CONTINUE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. IF ANYBODY HAS KNOTS ONE AND WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DO SO AT THE BEGINNING.

>> WHAT IS REQUIRED OF ME FIRST?

>> NAME AND ADDRESS. >> DIANA, 631 SWEETWATER BRANCH

LN. >> THE SEA NEED TO BE SWORN IN QUESTION MARK SHE WAS CLOSE TO OKAY.

>> I NEED THAT CLEARANCE BECAUSE I HAVE A DOCTORS WOMAN AT 1:00. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WILL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING. I WOULD LIKE TO REFER BACK TO COMMISSIONER DEANS ADMISSION . YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND NUCLEAR FUSION OR FISSION AND NEITHER DO I. I DON'T UNDERSTAND TIME AND SPACE RELATIVITY. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER EINSTEIN WOULD HELP ME CLARIFY WHAT TIME CERTAIN MEANS. BUT, TIME CERTAIN IN HERE MEANS I AM LATE WITH MY COMMENTS. I HAVE ONE BRIEF FACT BECAUSE YOU'LL BE DEBATING THIS I SUPPOSE ON JUNE 18.

COMMISSIONER, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TO OUR MEETING, THE PUBLIC MEETING AT JULINGTON CREEK PLANTATION TO DISCUSS THE

NON-ZONING VARIANCE WAIVER. >> JUST A MOMENT.

>> WE NEVER HAD IT. WE WERE NEVER GIVEN THIS. IT TOOK ME TWO WEEKS AFTERWARDS AND I AM OUT OF ORDER ON MANY POINTS. WE WERE NOT GIVEN THIS FOR THE AGENDA ITEM.

>> MA'AM. MA'AM. >> WE ARE IGNORANT. TWO WEEKS

ELSE. >> MICHAEL MCDONALD, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I WOULD LIKE TO APPRECIATE YOUR CANDOR AS WELL.

WE NEED MORE PEOPLE SPEAKING UP FOR OUR DEFICIENCIES AND ISSUES WE FACE. UNFAMILIAR WITH THE SUMMIT COMPANY AND I THINK THEY WILL GIVE US A GOOD PRODUCT WITH WHAT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE DONE ENOUGH RESEARCH. SHE IS BAFFLED BY MY COMMENTS. BUT I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE SCHOOL AND I THINK THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF HELP. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU LOOK AT THE SCHOOLTEACHERS. I'M SURE YOU WILL FIND A WAY TO GET THEM. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT. I WISH THE LOCATION WAS SOMEWHAT BETTER. BUT THERE IS NOT ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES.

IT IS A BLESSING IN DISGUISE. SOMEBODY'S READY TO COME IN AND BUILD IT FOR US. YET. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MENTION THAT PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT TIME CERTAIN. I TRY TO GET HERE AS FAST AS I COULD AND PUBLIC COMMENT WAS NOT TIME CERTAIN. I WANT TO MENTION THAT. I'M SURE YOU WILL GRANT THIS. THIS IS A WISE DECISION TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE RESOURCES FOR OUR KIDS AND

COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. GOOD AFTERNOON. I GUESS BY NOW. MDM. CHAIR AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. MY NAME IS DEBORAH QUINN. I LIVE AT 41 TUMBLE STONE ST. AUGUSTINE. THE CURRENT PRESIDENT FOR THE TREATY OAKS ASSOCIATION. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO SCHOOLS. I WORKED IN SCHOOLS FOR MORE THAN 17 1/2 YEARS. I KNOW THE VALUE THAT A SCHOOL CAN BRING TO A COMMUNITY. AND I REALIZE THE SCHOOL SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY ALONG WITH THE MONEY FOR THE 207 TRAFFIC LIGHT. THAT BEING SAID. THE PLAN FOR THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO BREAK OFF CHARTER SCHOOL WILL BE LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 200 FEET RIGHT OUTSIDE THE ONE AND ONLY EGRESS INTO TREATY OAKS. THE SECOND ENTRANCE WILL BE LOCATED ACROSS FROM THE ENCLAVE. WHICH IS ALSO PART OF TREATY OAKS. THE EXIT IS LOCATED RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ORCHARD PARK. THE TRAFFIC STUDY CONDUCTED FOR THE BREAK OFF CHARTER SCHOOL I FOUND OUT THEY DID COVER THE ROAD OF ENTERING.

IT WAS ONLY TO TURN RIGHT OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I CAN TELL YOU. AFTER LIVING THERE FOR FIVE YEARS THE MAJORITY PEOPLE ARE TURNING LEFT ON BRINK OFF-ROAD AND HEADING TO 2072 TO 95 TO COVER THEIR JOBS IN THE MORNING. THIS WILL HAVE A MAJOR THING AND DIRECTLY IMPACT TREATY OAKS AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS ON BRINK OFF-ROAD IN WILDWOOD. TREATY OAKS MAKES

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UP A TOTAL 423 HOMES MOST RESIDENTS ARE YOUNG FAMILIES THAT GO TO WORK EVERY DAY AS I MENTIONED. WE HAVE ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. I BELIEVE BUILDING THE SCHOOL APPROXIMATELY 200 FEET OUTSIDE THE ENTRANCE IS GOING TO BE A DANGEROUS SITUATION FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO TURN LEFT ONTO BRINK OFF-ROAD. THE CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING AT THE CORNER IS ADDING TO THE TRAFFIC CHAOS AND THE TRAFFIC WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND BE DISASTROUS FOR THE RESIDENCE.

WE ARE ALSO VERY CONCERNED IN THE CASE THAT A RESIDENT MIGHT BE SUFFERING FROM AN EMERGENCY THAT A FIRE AMBULANCE VEHICLE COULD NOT GET THROUGH THE TRAFFIC WHICH WILL BE UNDOUBTEDLY BLOCKING THE ENTRANCE INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ESPECIALLY. IN THE MORNING HOURS. BRINK OFF-ROAD WAS BUILT BY OUR DEVELOPERS AS A NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTING ROAD.

AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD AT THE TIME. WE ARE ALSO TOLD THE LIGHT AT 207 WILL NOT BE COMPLETED UNTIL THE SUMMER OF 2025. IF IT IS NOT INSTALLED AND UP AND RUNNING BY THE TIME THE CHARTER SCHOOL OPENS, THIS'LL ADD TO THE CHAOS. I UNDERSTAND THEY WILL PUT IN -- OKAY. MY NAME IS DEBORAH QUINN.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> HI. SARAH, ST. AUGUSTINE SHORES. DO I NEED TO BE SWORN IN? I'M NOT SPEAKING AS AN EXPERT. WHAT I WILL.

>> FULL DISCLOSURE. I WORK FOR THE COUNTY AND ASK MY SUPERVISOR IF I CAN COME DOWN HERE ON MY LUNCH HOUR TO SPEAK AS A RESIDENT AND A MOM. WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION THAT THIS WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA. I HAPPEN TO SEE IT. AND I WANT TO TELL YOU IN MY AREA, MY KIDS GO BUT THE BEST PUBLIC SCHOOL.

PUBLIC ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. WE ARE CONCERNED DOWN IN THE SOUTH, THEY ONLY HAVE THE OPTION OF GAMBLE ROGERS CHINA WAS PROBABLY FINE BUT MY KIDS OR BOTH. I'M REALLY FORTUNATE.

READING TO GRADE LEVELS ABOVE WHERE THEY ARE NOW. BY THE TIME MY DAUGHTER, A FIRST GRADER, IS IN FIFTH GRADE, I'M HOPING TO HAVE ANOTHER OPTION OF SOMEONE TO PUT HER. I KNOW IT IS FRIENDLY FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE OPTION HERE. I'M ORIGINALLY FROM ATLANTA AND WE HAVE LOTS OF OPTIONS FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS. I HATE TO TAKE MY KIDS TO A PRIVATE RULE IF THEY DON'T NEED TO. WE CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO BE IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL. THERE ARE NOT MANY PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY AS WELL. WITH THE NEW VOUCHER SYSTEM, THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS WILL BE FILLING UP QUICKLY. AND HAVE WEIGHTLESS. THERE'S NO GUARANTEE MY CHILD WILL BE UP TO GET IN. I WANTED TO RESPECTFULLY ASK THIS IS CONSIDERED FOR AS PARENTS WITH YOUNG ONES. MAYBE BY THE TIME THEY ARE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, THE SCHOOL WILL BE BUILT. I DID NOT EVEN LOOK AT WHEN IT WOULD BE BUILT. I'M EXCITED BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE SOUTH. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY. A SECOND OPPORTUNITY TO PUT MY SIDE -- MY CHILD INTO PRIVATE SCHOOL. THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS BELLA. I LIVE AT 286 MUSTARD HILL COURT. AT THE ORCHARD PARK NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. MAY I ASK THE DEVELOPER IF YOU CAN OPEN UP THE SLIDE TO THE SITES? PERFECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK THE PRIMARY CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT TRAFFIC. THAT IS A VERY REAL CONCERN FOR ALL OF US. I DO HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL CONCERN THAT I DID RAISE AT THE TREATY OAKS. I WAS GRATEFUL TO BE INVITED TO. THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE SECOND , EARLY LEARNING CENTER . THAT I HAVE RAISED. AND MADE THE REQUEST OF THE DEVELOPERS. THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO MEET WITH US TO WORK

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OUT ANY CONCERNS WE HAD. THEY DID NOT HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE THEY WERE ENOUGH CHANGES. IF YOU LOOK IN THE RIGHT HAND QUADRANT OF THIS ANGLE, AT THE VERY FRONT OF WHERE BRINK OFFICE, I BELIEVE THAT IS THE WATER MANAGEMENT AREA. THE LARGE PORTION. THE SCHOOL , THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER IS PUSHED ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE TENSE LINE WITH THEIR REQUIRED MINIMUM BUFFER IN BETWEEN THERE. WHILE WE ARE MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOMES, WE ARE A LITTLE LESS EXPENSIVE THAN TREATY OAKS , NOT BY MUCH. THOSE ARE SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENTS WE MADE AND MOST OF US HAVE BUILT OUT THE BACK PATIO SO WE HAVE PRIVACY OUT THERE. WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND TIME OUT THERE. MY ONLY SIMPLE REQUEST WAS THERE WAS A RETENTION CURRENTLY TOWARD THE REAR. IT IS ALREADY EXISTING.

COULD THEY NOT MOVE THE WATER MANAGEMENT BEHIND AND MOVE THE SCHOOL CLOSER TO BRINK OFF TO ALLOW THE BUFFER ZONE THAT'LL MITIGATE THE IMPACT AND QUALITY OF LIFE? THAT WAS NOT TAKEN UNDER CAN SERIOUS ITERATION -- UNDER SERIOUS CONSIDERATION. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AT LEAST A DELAY IN THE FINAL APPROVAL, ESPECIALLY OF THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER, SO THE ISSUES CAN BE MORE FULLY ADDRESSED AND UNDERSTOOD BY THE BOARD AS WELL AS THE RESIDENCE. TAKE YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AGENDA ITEMS

SEVEN AND EIGHT? >> I AM KRISTIN ANDERSON, A RESIDENT OF TREATY OAKS. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOCATION AT THE INCAPACITY OF THE SCHOOL AND DAY CARE AND THE IMPACTS TO SAFETY AND INTEGRITY AND LIFESTYLE OF FELLOW NEIGHBORS IN THE ENVIRONMENT. THE IMPACTS ARE OBVIOUS BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS BOND THAT IS IN PLACE TO SAVE US IF THERE'S ISSUES. WHAT ARE THE STIPULATIONS? WHAT CRITERIA IS IN PLACE TO GUARANTEE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT TRAFFIC DISASTERS WILL BE MET WITH SWIFT ACTION? WHY IS IT ONLY FOR ONE YEAR WHEN THE SCHOOL WILL ADMITTEDLY NOT BE AT FULL CAPACITY FOR 3 TO 4 YEARS? I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE STUDY COMPLETED SINCE TOWNHOMES ARE NOT FINISHED THE SHOPPING CENTER IS NOT FINISHED WHICH WILL ADD MORE BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS. THE GAS STATION IS NOT FINISHED WHICH WILL ADD CONGESTION TO THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON COMMUTES. THE OVERFLOW WILL END UP ON BRINK OFF-ROAD ALONG WITH THE 1000 VEHICLES BEING ADDED BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL AND DAY CARE THAT AS CAR EXHAUST, PEOPLE AND NOISE DISRUPTING THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA. THERE WILL BE IMPACTS OF INTEGRITY AND LIFESTYLE AND THE OTHER COMPARATORS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE WERE FROM DUVAL COUNTY. DO WE WANT TO REPLICATE THE STANDARDS? I DON'T. THAT IS WHY I DON'T LIVE THERE. WE ARE AND A RANKING SCHOOL DISTRICT. THIS IS THE SUBURBS. WE SHOULD NOT REPLICATE BUT THE CITY DOES WE ARE TRYING TO STAY SUBURBS.

>> WE ARE DIRECTLY NEXT TO TREATY PARK WHICH WAS THERE FIRST AND THE DRIVING FACTOR FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS ON BRINK OFF-ROAD ATTRACT THING TO IT'S NOT JUST FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN BUT FAMILIES WITHOUT CHILDREN. IT WAS INTENDED TO BE A RECREATIONAL POST IN NATURE OR TYPE OF LIFESTYLE. WITH 960+ FACULTY AND STAFF JUDGE IN 20 CHILD DAY CARE DO NOT FIT INTO THAT SCENE. IT'LL LOOK AND FEEL OUT OF PLACE CLEARLY NOT COMPATIBLE FOR THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON RUNNERS , BIKE RIDERS, DOCKWORKERS. COMPATIBLE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT IN THE LOCAL WILDLIFE. HOW DOES THE FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS SETTLE ON THE 10 ACRES? WHAT ARE THE AREAS THAT THEY WERE CONSIDERING IN THE 3 MILE RADIUS? WHAT RULED OUT THE OPTIONS OF THIS LOCATION? HOW IS THIS BETTER AND HOW DOES A DIRECTLY BENEFIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE SCHOOLS ARE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT PERCENTAGE COMES FROM NEARBY PUBLIC SCHOOLS VERSUS PRIVATE SCHOOLS WHAT TENDS TO HAPPEN IS ALLOW STUDENTS COME FROM PRIVATE SCHOOLS NEARBY AND THE OVERCROWDING OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS DO NOT GET AFFECTED OR DECREASED. I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THE QUESTIONS AND IF YOU CANNOT GUARANTEE THE SAFETY AND INTEGRITY AND LIFESTYLE CURRENTLY ENJOYED BY TREATY OAKS AND ORCHARD PARK, YOU CANNOT IN GOOD FAITH AND CONSCIOUSNESS APPROVE THE REQUEST. THIS IS NOT COMPLAINS ABOUT NOT WANTING IT IN MY BACKYARD. NOT PROPOSING TO PUT

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IN THE BACKYARD, BUT THE FRONT AND BLOCK MY DRIVEWAY. COMMON SENSE TELLS YOU THIS IS NOT'S GOING TO FIT. IN QUEUE.

>> THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? MR. JUDY

SPIEGEL. >> I DON'T HAVE THE SAME ENDING. 101 101 WILLOW LN., JUDY SPIEGEL, YES. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO CAME TO GET PUBLIC COMMENT. IT IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE GET TO TALK AND GET TO LISTENING COME TO LEARN AND HEAR. WITH OUR EXPERIENCE, SOME THINGS WE THOUGHT WERE TRUE TURNED OUT TO NOT BE TRUE ONCE YOU LEARN MORE AND I AM A PLANNING AND ZONING MEMBER WHO VOTED IN FAVOR. HE CALLS IT DOUBLE DIPPING TO TALK WITH YOU GUYS AS WELL. FORGIVE ME FOR DOUBLE DIPPING. AS THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER AND SCHOOL DISTRICT MEMBER, I AM IN FAVOR OF ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP OUR KIDS IN THIS COUNTY. I THINK SCHOOL CHOICE IS AN AMAZING RIGHTS. I'M THANKFUL THAT FLORIDA HAS ALLOWED THAT TO HAVE SCHOOL CHOICE. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD LOCATION ACTUALLY. I DID CHECK WITH MR. -- OF THE ROAD CAPACITY. 53.4 WITH TOTAL COMMITTED TRAFFIC.

THERE IS ROOM. I LOVE THE THOUGHTS THAT WENT INTO THIS SAFETY PROGRAM. I LOVE THE NORTH CAROLINA F. INK. IS STILL BRILLIANT. BECAUSE I KNOW I HAVE A GRANDCHILD THAT GOES TO OTIS MASON. I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE. YOU GO ONE HOUR EARLY AND YOU SIT AND WAIT AND YOU DON'T WANT TO BE STUCK ONTO A SEVEN.

I LIKE THE WAY THEY PUT IT TOGETHER. THEY LOOK AT A CERTAIN RADIUS. THOSE KIDS WILL GO TO SCHOOL SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA. IF YOU GET ON THE GPS IT TAKES YOU THROUGH BRINK OFF-ROAD ANYWAY. CHANCES ARE THAT THE TRAFFIC TO OTIS MASON WILL BE DIRECTED RIGHT THERE. THESE KIDS ARE GOING TO SCHOOL AND IT IS NOT LIKE TRAFFIC IS SPOOFING, APPEARING FROM NOWHERE. THEY WILL BE ON THE ROAD AND THEY WILL BE GOING TO SCHOOL AND IT IS A BRIEF PERIOD IN THE MORNING AND BRIEF PERIOD IN THE AFTERNOON. I LOVE THE IDEA OF CHARTER SCHOOLS AND COMPETITION AND COMMISSIONER JOSEPH COMMENTS ABOUT THE PROJECT AS WELL. I AM FULLY IN FAVOR OF THIS AND I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU CAN ALL APPROVE. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. I AM JACKIE LEBLANC, DISTRICT THREE, I AGREE WITH MS. SPIEGEL. SOME PEOPLE HERE SAY IT IS NOT A REFERENDUM ON CHARTERS VERSUS PUBLIC SCHOOLS. I LIKE THE PLAN AND I'M ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. I AM A GUILTY PARTY OF TAKING THE SHORTCUT TO GET TO 95 FROM 207. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE. IF IT'LL BE DEVELOPED AS A PUD IF NOT THE SCHOOL.

KIDS ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL SOMEWHERE. I AGREE WITH JUDY ON A LOT OF HER POINTS. I THINK IT IS A GREAT PLAN. I REALLY WISH I STUDIED MORE BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE THIS KIND OF PLAN HAS DONE THIS BEFORE. I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY CAN GET A KINDERGARTNER OUT IN TIME FOR THE 6:30 SCHOOL. GREAT IDEA, BUT I AM ALL FOR. I UNDERSTAND THE RESIDENCE CONCERNS FOUR. MY HUSBAND AND I WILL BUY THE SIGN THAT SAYS WATCH OUT FOR DEER CROSSING. I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT THE DEER ARE PRETTY MUCH GONE. THERE'S MORE APPROVALS DONE FOR SOME KIND OF STORE. I HOPE THE DEVELOPERS WILL WORK WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE AT THE GUY SAID. IN A BACKUP TO HIS BACK BUFFER. I HOPE THEY WILL WORK WITH PEOPLE ALREADY THERE.

ANYWAY, I AM ALL FOR THE PLAN. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. SCOTT --, 111 TUMBLE STONE WAY. EVERYBODY WHO SPOKE BEFORE ME FROM MY COMMUNITY HAVE SPOKEN AND GIVEN YOU INFORMATION WE FEEL YOU NEED TO HEAR. IT IS INTERESTING

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TO HEAR PEOPLE TALK SAYING THEREFORE THE SCHOOL BUT NOT FROM OUR COMMUNITIES. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY WHAT WE WILL HAVE TO EXPERIENCE AS THE RESIDENCE. THE SHERIFF CAME UP AND ASKED FOR FUNDING BECAUSE ONE OF HIS POINTS WAS 5600 ACCIDENTS AND THEY WERE INCREASING. IF YOU APPROVE THE SCHOOL, YOU MIGHT AS WELL PLAN ON A HIGHER BUDGET BECAUSE THAT'LL CONTINUE TO GROW. YOU'RE TAKING AND DOUBLING THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WE EXPERIENCE NOW WITHIN A YEARS TIME . WILL MOST OF YOU AND I DO KNOW ONE OF YOU WHO WAS CURRENTLY A RESIDENT OF TREATY OAKS. YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED THE TRAFFIC WE EXPERIENCED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. YOU HAVE ALL BEEN TO STARBUCKS AND HAVE SEEN HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IT CREATES.

ALL THE PEOPLE CUTTING TO BREAK OFF ARE DOING IT BRIEFLY. WE CAN'T GET OUT OF THE COMMUNITY AS IT IS IN THE MORNING. IT IS A GOOD THING TO THROW 912,000 STUDENTS IN THERE TWICE A DAY TO HAVE THEIR PARENTS PICK THEM UP. THEY ARE DOING IT TO MAKE MONEY. THEY ARE DOING IT TO PROFIT THEMSELVES. STUDENTS NEED SCHOOL AND MY CHILDREN WENT TO A CHARTER SCHOOL. THEY WERE BUILT IN AREAS WHERE THE TRAFFIC WAS DESIGNED TO BE CONTROLLED PROPERLY. I DON'T SEE HOW A SINGLE ROAD WITH THREE COMMUNITIES, TO INFORM -- TWO OF THEM HAVE A SINGLE ENTRANCE AND EXIT POINTS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY CAN TELL US IT WON'T IMPACT OUR LIVES. I AM PULLING ON YOUR HEARTSTRINGS. NOT ANY TYPE OF DATA MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

WHY DON'T YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR YOU GUYS TO HAVE A SCHOOL DROPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THINK IT'LL IMPACT OR NOT IMPACT THE SCHOOL. IF YOU WANT TO EXPERIENCE BAD TRAFFIC, FOR THE FUN OF IT? GO TO A CONCERT AT THE EMPTY THEATER AND TRY TO GET IN AND OUT OF THERE IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. IT IS NOT COMFORTABLE. YOU WANT TO ASK US TO DO THAT TWICE A DAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> A DEFENDANT. SCOTT WOULD READ. WITH THE CHARTER SCHOOLS USA. I AM A PROPERTY OWNER IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND A HALF FAMILY THAT LIVES HERE PART OF THE PROCESS AND I WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I HEARD.

>> CAN WE FINISH THE PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST? ARE YOU PART OF

THE PROJECT? >> I AM. TO LET US FINISH WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FIRST. THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY

FOR REBUTTAL. >> LAUREN --, 212 COLLIN LN. I COME BEFORE YOU AS A MOTHER. HER DAUGHTER WAS FOUR YEARS OLD. SHE WILL BE GOING TO KINDERGARTEN AUGUST 2025. RIGHT NOW, THE YOUNG LADY MENTIONED WE ARE IN A SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE WERE. WE WERE WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL HERE. NOW WE HAVE C SCHOOLS. A COUPLE A SCHOOLS. THE SCHOOL I AM ZONED FOR IS A C SCHOOL. I DON'T WANT MY CHILD GOING TO SCHOOL THERE. I HAVE NO OPTION EXCEPT PRIVATE SCHOOL AND I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR PRIVATE SCHOOL. I'D RATHER HER BEING A PUBLIC SCHOOL. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE OUR CHILDREN WHAT THEY NEED. AS IT'S BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE. THERE WAS NO PLAN TO BUILD ANY SCHOOLS IN THE SOUTH END OF THE COUNTY. AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT IS INCREDIBLE TO SHARE. I KNOW THE RESIDENTS HAVE SOME CONCERNS AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT, I GET THAT.

PUTTS, WHERE WILL THEY GO TO SCHOOL IF THEY HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE. DO THEY EVEN HAVE KIDS? THEY HAVE GOT TO GO TO SCHOOL SOMEWHERE OVERCROWDED. THE KIDS NEED A SCHOOL. THEY NEED SOMEONE TO BE. THIS IS OUR FUTURE WE ARE TRYING TO EDUCATE. FAQ AS A MOTHER. PLEASE, PLEASE, PROVE THE

SCHOOL. THANK YOU. >> LAURA, --. I DON'T LIKE SPEAKING IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY, I TOLD YOU THIS BEFORE SO I ASKED MY DAUGHTER TO WRITE SOME. SHE LIVES IN 10 SANDSTONE DR. AS A FULL-TIME WORKING PARENT I'M ABLE TO ATTEND

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TODAY'S MEETING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SHARE MY CONCERNS. THE POTENTIAL TRAFFIC ISSUES A NEGATIVE IMPACT CONCERNING --. THE SUITABILITY OF THE CHARTER SCHOOL . THE MASON IS A COMMON ODYSSEY. CHARTER SCHOOL PROVIDES EDUCATIONAL CHOICE FOR THE FAMILIES TO DIFFERENTIATE THE EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE. DUVAL COUNTY HAS MANY CHARTER SCHOOLS TO PROVIDE DIFFERENT EDUCATIONAL FOCUSES AND SPECIALIZATIONS SUCH AS STEM, THE RIVER CITY SCIENCE ACADEMY, WAYMAN ACADEMY, WALDORF LIKE SEASIDE CHARTER SCHOOL, AND MONTESSORI. AND ALEX JACKSON, OUR OWN STATE AUGUSTINE CHARTER SCHOOL. THIS PROVIDES NO DIFFERENTIATION POINT PHILOSOPHY. IT IS OF THE UNIQUE EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCES THAT SEEMS TO BE THAT THE SCHOOL SHOULD BE RUN BY A NONPROFIT CORPORATION RATHER THAN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. WE HAVE CHILDREN CURRENTLY ATTENDING THE MONTESSORI CHARTER SCHOOL AND CANNOT SUPPORT THE PROPOSED SCHOOL. IT IS NOT WARRANT AN EDUCATIONAL FOCUS AREA AVAILABLE TO ST. JOHN COUNTY FAMILY. IT SHIPS OWNERSHIP TO A CORPORATION THAT OPERATES NEARLY 100 SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND IS NOT INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT IS A BUSINESS DECISION WITH NO DESIRE TO PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY WITH SPECIALIZED EDUCATION. THEY OPERATE EIGHT SCHOOLS IN THE DEVELOPED COUNTY AND THE SCHOOLS THEY REPRESENT AS A MODEL IS THEIR BEST PERFORMANCE SCHOOL. NOT ALL SCHOOLS HAVE HIGH ACADEMIC RATINGS. MANY OF THE REVIEWS ARE NEGATIVE. I URGE THE COMMISSIONER TO CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY , SUITABILITY OF THE COMMUNITY AND LOOK INTO THE COMPANY AS A WHOLE AND OTHER SCHOOLS OF THEIR CURRENTLY OPERATING. WE WILL BE A NUMBER TO THEIR PORTFOLIO AND I AM OPPOSED TO THIS CHARTER SCHOOL AND ASCII PROJECT -- AND I ASK YOU REJECT THE PROPOSAL AT THIS TIME, THANK YOU.

>> >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I NEED TO BE SWORN. I DON'T THINK SO. I AM TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT

WITNESS. >> MY NAME IS JENNIFER. A RESIDENCE OF THE TREATY OAKS AS WELL. LISTENING TO ALL OF THIS, I COME TO THE SENSE THAT IT IS NOT A DEBATE BETWEEN WE WANT A CHARTER SCHOOL IN OUR COMMUNITY OR NOT. IT IS THAT WHERE WILL IT BE BILLED? I AM A MOTHER OF TWO CHILDREN AND I DO THE TRIP OUT OF TREATY OAKS EXACTLY AT THIS PROBLEMATIC STREET. I DO THE TRIP TO ONE ELEMENTARY IN THE MORNING. NOT ONLY DO I COME ACROSS WITH TERRIBLE TRAFFIC WITH A LOT OF ACCIDENTS IN THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON RIGHT FROM BRINK OFF TO 207. THE ONLY ENTRANCE TO A FIVE TO GO TO WORK OR TO GO INTO THE DOWNTOWN. I DON'T THINK HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO UNDERSTAND THE MAJOR TRAFFIC PROBLEM WE HAVE HERE LOCALLY. I COME ACROSS THAT IN THE AFTERNOON. I COME ACROSS ANOTHER HEAVY TRAFFIC I HAVE TO GO PICK UP MY DAUGHTER. NOT ONLY WAIT LIKE SOMEBODY MENTIONED FROM THE COUNTY. NOW WE ARE INSIDE THE MAJOR SPACE INSIDE THE SCHOOL. I DO THE LINE ON 207 AND I COME EARLY OUT TO GO GET MY DAUGHTER. IN THE MORNINGS, I DO THE TRIP ALL THE WAY TO WILDWOOD TO --. THE OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOL. REALLY, THE IDEA OF HAVING A CHARTER SCHOOL NEARBY WOULD BE A DREAM FOR ME. WITH TWO KIDS GROWING UP. NOW, WHEN I STUDY ALL OF THIS AND REVIEW IT, I COME TO THE SENSE THAT THIS WILL BE A GREAT NIGHTMARE FOR TREE OAKS AND ENCLAVE AND ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND. I AM A WITNESS EVERY MORNING. EVERY AFTERNOON, ENCOUNTERING THE DROP-OFFS OF THE SCHOOL BOX IN THE PICKUP. WE HAVE THE PARENTS LIKE ME VEL ALL THROUGHOUT BRINK OFF TO 207 AND BRINK OFF TO WILDWOOD TO BOTH SCHOOLS. ELEMENTARY AND

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GAMBLES. THERE ARE MANY MORE AROUND. SAME THING IN THE AFTERNOON. LET ALONE ANOTHER ACCIDENT. I COME LATE TO PICK UP MY KIDS IN SCHOOL. THEY GET LAID IN THE MORNING TO GO TO SCHOOL. FOR ME, WOULD IT REALLY BE A DREAM TO SEND THEM WALKING TO SCHOOL. THIS IS REALLY WILL BE A NIGHTMARE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND IT IS NOT FAIR, INC. YOU. THANK YOU.

>> THE NATION CAN COME HERE ALL THEY WANT. WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> THEY SAID WE ARE GOING TO PUT A SCHOOL IN IF YOU APPROVE THIS PLACE. GRAND OAKS IS IN YOUR LITIGATION. SUE THEM.

MAYBE HER NAME WILL BE BROUGHT UP ABOUT TESTIFYING AND THEY ARE NOT PAYING. THAT IS WHAT THIS IS. THE SAME THING ON SILO ROAD. IT IS THE BIG PLACE, SMALL ENVIRONMENT. IT IS A SUPER WALMART IN A BIG NEIGHBORHOOD. I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. THEY DIDN'T LIST WEBSTER. THEY LISTED MURRAY MIDDLE SCHOOL AND WEBSTER IS RIGHT BESIDE IT.

OBVIOUSLY I GET TOLD A LOT OF TIMES OF HOW THE SCHOOL RATINGS ARE TOP, NUMBER ONE, NUMBER ONE, NUMBER ONE. NOW HERE IT IS THIS SCHOOL NEEDS TO GET PUT IN TO FACILITATE OVERCROWDING FROM OVERDEVELOPMENT THAT THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS PRESENTING HAS COME AND PRESENTED TO THE COMMITTEE AND GOT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF HOMES APPROVED. IS IT TOO EASY JUST TO SAY HERE GO -- GOES 1000 HOUSES HERE, THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN DOWN THE LINE. NOW WE NEED MORE SCHOOLS BECAUSE OF THIS. THIS IS THE EPIC CENTER OF HOW THIS COUNSEL WORKS. IT GOES IN A CIRCLE. IT IS ENDLESS TO SEE HOW MUCH IT IS A LAUGH TO A LOT

OF PEOPLE. THAT'S ALL. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS 7 AND 8? SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> PUBLIC COMMENT, WHEN IT'S DONE I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER AND I WILL EXPLAIN THEN.

>> ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. >> THIS SURE LOOKS LIKE A DENIAL TO ME. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS TO ASK THE DEVELOPERS WHAT ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY DID THEY CONSIDER? WHY DID THEY FOCUS ON THIS ONE PARTICULAR ONE? IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT'S UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE SUPPORTING A ZONING REQUEST SIMPLY BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE HAVE IDEOLOGICAL SUPPORT OF CHARTER SCHOOLS. IT IS NOT ABOUT CHARTER SCHOOLS. IT IS ABOUT THIS IS THE WRONG PLACE. NEIGHBORS DO NOT WANT IT. IT IS GOING TO CAUSE TRAFFIC TIEUPS. THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS THAT WERE NOT

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ANSWERED. I WOULD SUGGEST A MOTION TO TABLE AND HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. I THINK IT IS CHIVALROUS FOR THIS DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND SAY CHARTER SCHOOLS. IT IS NOT ABOUT CHARTER SCHOOLS. IT IS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND THEY HAVE NOT ANSWERED THOSE CONCERNS. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. PLEASE DENY THIS WORKTABLE.

>> ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE ABOUT THE DRAINAGE ISSUES, I AM SORT OF A VISUAL GUY. I DIDN'T REALLY FOLLOW HIS PRESENTATION.

HE WAS WITHOUT A POINTER. I HAVE GIVEN HIM A POINTER. WITH THE CHAIR'S PERMISSION, HE IS ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE GIVEN THE FACT THAT I UNDERSTOOD HE IS UP AGAINST THIS PROPERTY. IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HIM TO BRIEFLY EXPLAIN HIS POINT USING A POINTER SO THAT I CAN FOLLOW IT. IF I MAY I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE GENTLEMAN FIRST. THEN I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. I AM PRETTY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. I WANT TO SEE IF THE APPLICANT CAN UNDERSTAND HIS PROBLEM AND MAYBE ADDRESS IT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. MADAM CHAIR, CAN THEY PULL IT BACK? IS THERE ANOTHER FURTHER BACK PICTURE THAT WE CAN SEE AROUND IT AND

LITTLE MORE? >> YOU HAVE A BETTER PICTURE

PRESHOW -- BEFORE. >> I THINK THIS IS GOOD. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR LETTING ME COME BACK UP. FIRST OFF THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I DID NOT SAY THE LAST TIME. I REALLY RESPECT AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU HAVE TO DO.

YOU ARE TRYING TO BALANCE EVERYTHING. THE GROWTH OF THIS AREA AND GETTING EVERYBODY HAPPY AND THAT'S NOT AN EASY TASK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FAIR. PERSONALLY AND WITH ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT I HAVE TALK WITH, I AM NOT OPPOSED TO A CHARTER SCHOOL. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. I THINK THAT HAS BEEN RAISED QUITE A BIT. MAYBE THERE WILL BE MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT. THE OTHER THING IS, AGAIN, I RAISE THIS WITH THE DEVELOPER ABOUT AT LEAST CONSIDERING THE IMPACT ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE ON BOTH NEIGHBORHOODS. HE WAS TALKING MORE ABOUT TREE OAKS. AND HE DID POINT OUT THEY HAVE A BUFFER ZONE HERE IN ORCHARD PARK DOES NOT. AT THAT MEETING I REQUESTED THEY CONSIDER THIS IS THE WATER MANAGEMENT PROPERTY THAT IS PROPOSED. THIS IS THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER. THESE ARE THE TOWNHOMES RIGHT

BEHIND HERE. >> THAT IS WHERE YOU LIVE?

>> YES, SIR. >> OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE

SURE WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE. >> WE BOUGHT IT NOT KNOWING WHAT WAS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED BACK THERE. I KIND OF APPLAUD THE CHARTER SCHOOL CONCEPT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CONSIDERATION FOR THE TRAFFIC AND TO ALLOW A BUFFER ZONE. ON THIS PART OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW IS A RETENTION POND APPROXIMATELY HERE. MY REQUEST WAS TO GIVE CONSIDERATION MOVING THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER UP HERE SO THAT IT HAS MORE OF A MITIGATING IMPACT ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE. LESS NOISE AND, YOU KNOW, OUR VISUAL IS RIGHT THERE, THE SCHOOL. IT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE AN UNREASONABLE REQUEST.

APPARENTLY THEY HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO GET THAT CONSIDERATE CONSIDERATION. THEREFORE I MAKE A REQUEST TO DELAY THIS, TO TABLE IT OR PERHAPS TO GET MORE INFORMATION.

>> ARE YOU SAYING THIS IS THE POND SITE?

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>> YES. >> YOU JUST WANT THE POND SITE

MOVED TO THE BACK? >> YES. THAT WILL PROVIDE A

NATURAL BUFFER. >> NOW I AM UNDERSTANDING.

>> THAT IS WHAT I DIDN'T GET. THANK YOU.

>> MAY I APPROACH?

>> SINCE WE ARE ON THAT TOPIC I'M GOING TO LET OUR CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT TALK ABOUT IT. WE HAVE PRESENTED THE SITE PLAN AS A CONCEPTUAL PLAN. AND I AM SORRY, I MISSED YOUR NAME. PHILIP, MR. PHILLIPS CONCERN.

>> MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONER, GOLF STREET DESIGN GROUP. JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A INTERVIEW I KNOW THERE WERE SOME OTHERS ZOOMED OUT MAPS. THE LONG STORY SHORT IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF TREATY OAKS IS DRAINING INTO THE DITCH SYSTEM.

THE ULTIMATE OUTFALL FOR THIS REGION IS MOULTRIE CREEK, WHICH IS BACK TO THE EAST. THIS WETLAND, THE MAJORITY OF THIS SITE THERE IS ACTUALLY AN INLET THAT COLLECTS SOME OF THE DRAINAGE FROM THIS WETLAND OVERFLOW THAT GETS ALL OF THIS TO THE DITCH TO MOULTRIE CREEK. THE MAIN REASON THE POND IS HERE IS BECAUSE THAT OUTFALL IN THE DIRECTION OF FLOW IS TO THE NORTH. PUTTING THE POND ON THE HIGH SIDE TYPICALLY CREATES THE NEED FOR MORE EVERYTHING. THE POND WAS SITUATED HERE. JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE EXPLANATION TO THE ORCHARD PARK ORIENTATION, THESE ARE ABOUT THE BUILDING PATHS. THIS IS THE REAR YARD BUFFER. THERE IS A PROPERTY LINE AND A FENCE. WE HAVE A BUFFER ON OUR SITE OF 20 FEET. BETWEEN THE BACK OF THE BUILDINGS HERE AND OUR BUILDING I WOULD HAVE TO ASSUME YOU ARE GOING TO BE NORTH OF 50 FEET. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER.

WHAT YOU SEE DOWN HERE IS OUR LANDSCAPE BUFFER. THAT WILL BE A BUFFER FOR THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

IT WILL HAVE A FENCE AND IT WILL HAVE PLANTINGS. THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THEY ARE WILLING TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS ALONG THE BACK. TRUTHFULLY, PUTTING A POND VERSUS PLANTINGS FROM A NOISE SUPPRESSION, I AM NOT AN AUDIO ENGINEER. IN MY EXPERIENCE OPEN WATER TENDS TO CARRY NOISE MORE THAN TREES, FENCES AND PLANTINGS. I BELIEVE THE TREES AND THE PLANTINGS BASED ON THE LAND DEVELOPING CODE ALONG WITH THE FENCING, THEIR OWN FENCING IN THEIR OWN REAR YARD , THERE IS GOING TO BE A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT BUFFER.

IT IS NOT A NATURALLY SEPARATED AREA, BUT IT DOES MEET AND EXCEED COMPONENTS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> ANY CHANCE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PSA OFFICERS EVERY TIME THEY GO IN OR OUT MIKE PALMER CATHOLIC ACADEMY? THAT'S A CUT THROUGH, TWO LANES. THEY HELP TO BRING TRAFFIC IN AND OUT DAILY, TWICE HOUR DAY. AGAIN, YOU ARE CLOSE ON THE WEEKEND, CLOSED DURING HOLIDAYS AND CLOSE DURING THE SUMMER, BESIDES THAT. THAT'S IT.

>> I WILL ADJUST THE COMMENT ON THE PSA. BASED ON YOUR ADVICE WE MET WITH THE SHERIFF AND TALKED ABOUT SCHOOL SAFETY. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE US A RESPONSE ON OUR BUILDING PLAN. WE HAVE FAVORABLE COMMENTS. THE INTENTION IS TO EMPLOY A RESOURCE OFFICER FROM THE ST.

JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND WILL BE ASSIGNED ON A PERMANENT BASIS. UNDER THE FILLER PROGRAM THAT OFFICER WOULD BECOME A DAILY PART OF THE OPERATIONS AT THE SCHOOL.

PART OF YOUR QUESTION WAS ABOUT TRAFFIC. THEY DO HELP IN SOME WAYS. THEIR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO BE ON SITE AND SAFETY. IF THERE IS AN ISSUE OUT FRONT THEY WILL CERTAINLY BE OUT FRONT. FOR THE MOST PART THEY WILL BE AROUND

THE BUILDING ABILITY. >> SO YOU WON'T HAVE TRAFFIC CONTROL? THAT IS WHAT WE SEE WE GO BY OCEAN PALMS OR PALMER CATHOLIC ACADEMY. THEIR OFFICES THAT SHOW UP RIGHT AT THE START AND AT THE END OF THE DAY. TO GET THE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT AND

IN THEY LEAVE. >> THERE IS NOT A PLAN RIGHT

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NOW. NOT TO SAY THAT WOULD BE -- WOULD NOT BE IMPLEMENTED AS NEEDED. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PLAN IN PLACE FOR AN OFFICER ON THE STREET. THEY DO HAVE SCHOOL EMPLOYEES OUT THERE THAT HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC. THERE IS NOT AN OFFICER AT THIS POINT.

>> ALL RIGHT. JUST TO DOVETAIL INTO THAT AND TO WRAP UP, WE ARE GOING TO, BUT I DO THINK THESE GENTLEMEN WANT TO MAKE HIM A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL POINTS ABOUT THE PLAN. I WANT TO LET THE RESIDENCE OF TREATY OAKS NO THEY HAVE DONE THEIR BEST TO RECOGNIZE BREAK OFF ROAD IS AND COLLECTOR ROAD, BUT A TO LAY COLLECTOR ROAD. THAT IS WHY THEY PROVIDED ALL OF THIS ON-SITE STACKING YOU'VE SEEN. THEY ARE FINDING ABOUT $370,000 WORTH OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. THEY ARE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF THIS SCHOOL.

GOING TO HOW WE STARTED, THE TWO BIGGEST COMPLAINT THIS BOARD HEARS, AND YOU KNOW IT MORE THAN I DO, TRAFFIC AND SCHOOLS. HERE IS EYE SCHOOL SOLUTION. THEY HAVE DONE THEIR BEST TO MITIGATE THE TRAFFIC. AS COMMISSIONER JOSEPH POINTS OUT THIS IS A NON-YEAR-ROUND, NON-WEEKEND, THE SCHOOL EARLY LEARNING CENTER AND THE SCHOOL OPEN AT 6:30 A.M. FOR PARIS TO DROP OFF. THEY STAGGER THE STARTING TIMES AROUND THE OTHER PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN THE AREA. THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THEY CAN. HE HAS MET A NUMBER OF TIMES WITH RESIDENCE IN THE COMMUNITY AND IS LISTENING TO THEM.

>> THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A HANDFUL OF NOTES THAT I MADE, IF I AM ALLOWED TO DO IT NOW. I HAVE SOME NOTES. INDEED THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ON THE ROPES SO TO SPEAK. A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST THE TREATY OAKS FOLKS, BUT RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. WITH STAFF, WITH THE COMMISSIONER, WITH THE FIRE AND THE SHERIFF FOLKS. WE ARE TAKING AS MUCH BE BACK AS WE CAN AND INCORPORATING IT INTO OUR PLANS AS MUCH AS WE CAN. THIS IS A PLAN BASED ON MANY ITERATIONS BEFORE. WE DID REFERENCE THE DEUEL COUNTY SCHOOL, NOT TO COMPARE, BUT TO COMPARE THAT WE HAVE A VERY HIGH PERFORMING SCHOOL IN THE SAME EXPECTATIONS FOR THE SCHOOL HERE. WE BELIEVE IT IS GOING TO BE A GOOD SCORING SCHOOL FOR THE COMMUNITY. SOME OF THE COMMENTS WERE ON TRAFFIC METHODOLOGY AND QUESTIONING THE INTEGRITY OF THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS. I WANT TO REITERATE THAT WE DID SATISFY THAT WITH THE COUNTY STAFF AND IT FOLLOWED THE METHODOLOGY. THERE WERE COMMENTS ON NOISE AND QUALITY OF LIFE, LIGHTING. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT TO THE COMMISSION THE SCHOOL IS IN THE DARK AT NIGHT. THERE ARE NO LIGHTS ON THE FIELD. THERE ARE NO AFTERSCHOOL ACTIVITIES THAT GO INTO THE NIGHTTIME HOURS.

THE SCHOOL IS PRIMARILY QUIET AND DARK DURING THE EVENING HOURS, ON WEEKENDS AND DURING THE SUMMER. THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS. ONE OF THEM WAS TREATY OAKS IS FULL OF YOUNG PEOPLE. OUR ANALYSIS SHOWS THERE IS -- OUR YOUNG FAMILIES THAT FIELD THESE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THE

PROPOSED SCHOOL. >> AS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE PETITIONS BEING CIRCULATED.

OVER 200 PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED IN FAVOR OF THE SCHOOL CHOICE OPTION IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. THAT INCLUDES FOLKS THAT ARE FROM THE TREATY OAKS NEIGHBORHOODS. THEIR ADDRESS IS ARE ON THIS LIST. THAT INCLUDES FOLKS FROM THE COMMUNITY. PART OF THIS WAS DONE ON SUNDAY. OUR DEVELOPMENT AND EDUCATION TEAM SET OUT THERE AND ANSWERED QUESTIONS TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE SUPPORTED THE SCHOOL AND THERE WERE QUITE A FEW. WE ARE VERY ENCOURAGED BY THE SUPPORTS OF THE COMMUNITY AS EYE HOLE. I THINK WE HAVE HEARD A LOT FROM THE FOLKS DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THE TRAFFIC. MYSELF, I AM A RESIDENT THAT LIVES RIGHT NEAR THREE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT MY DRIVE TO WORK THIS WEEK WASN'T ANY DIFFERENT THAN LAST

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WEEK. I LEARNED TO WORK AROUND THOSE SMALL WINDOWS OF TIME WHERE KIDS ARE COMING IN AND COMING OUT. I FIRMLY BELIEVE SCHOOLS SHOULD BE IN NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT IS WHY I TARGETED THIS SCHOOL NEAREST THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE GREATEST NEED. THAT IS HOW I GREW UP AND THAT IS HOW SCHOOLS ARE CURRENTLY BEING PLANNED IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. I STILL THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT THING FOR US TO DO. LOTS OF RESIDENCE, FAMILIES AND STUDENTS WILL BE BENEFITING.

>> WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS CAN WE ANSWER? WE APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG HEARING.

>> THE LAW REQUIRES US TO CONSIDER SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF FACTS AND A LOT OF TESTIMONY. I FEEL THE NEED TO FILTER THROUGH. FORGIVE ME BUT I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. IS THAT THE ROAD IS CURRENTLY AT 50 OR

UNDER 50% CAPACITY? IS A 51%? >> YOUR STAFF REPORT, HANG ON.

I'M SORRY. I AM JUST LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT. BY THE WAY, I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS, WE'VE DONE A COMBINED PRESENTATION FOR ITEMS 7 AND 8. WHEN I MENTIONED THAT EARLIER I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR STAFF REPORT FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

THERE IS AN ENTIRE ANALYSIS THAT STARTS ON PAGE 5 AND GOES TO PAGE SIX. IT SAYS THE DIRECT SEGMENT ON BRINKERHOFF ROAD FROM ROB WOULD DRIVE TO SACRAL 207 IS CURRENTLY OPERATING AT 49.8% CAPACITY BASED ON EXISTING 2024 POWER TRAFFIC.

>> I READ THAT. FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RECORD I WANT TO GET THIS OUT IN THE PUBLIC. WHAT WILL BE THE CAPACITY ONCE THE

STRIPS ARE COUNTED FOR? >> WE WILL HAVE JACK WHO IS OUR

TRAFFIC EXPERT, AN ANSWER THAT. >> THANK YOU.

>> HELLO. THE PERCENTAGE THAT ALAN WAS JUST LET'S -- LISTING CAME FROM THE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS SPREADSHEET. IT IS BASED ON THE P.M. PEAK HOURS. THE TYPICAL PEAK HOURS BETWEEN 4:00 P.M. AND 6:00 P.M. THE STUDY DID NOT ANALYZE THAT BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOLS IMPACT FROM 4:00 P.M. TO 6:00 P.M. IS NOT NEARLY AS SIGNIFICANT AS DURING THE A.M. PEAK HOUR. THIS STUDY FOCUSED ON A.M. PEAK HOUR ANALYSIS AND THE PEAK HOUR OF THE SCHOOL AFTERNOON. IN THE 2:00 P.M. TO 4:00 P.M. RANGE.

WE LOOKED AT THE INTERSECTIONS ON EACH AND. THE INTERSECTION OF 207 AT WILDWOOD IS ANTICIPATED TO OPERATE AT A LEVEL OF SERVICE C OR BETTER. WHICH IS THE COUNTY STANDARD FOR INTERSECTIONS. THERE IS PLENTY OF ADDITIONAL CAPACITY AVAILABLE TO ACCOMMODATE TROOPS EVEN BEYOND THE PROPOSED SCHOL. ON THE OTHER END IT IS ANTICIPATED TO OFFER AT LEVEL OF SERVICE HE SO CLOSER TO FAILING CONDITIONS ON THE EAST

END. >> I WANT TO ASK THE LINK IS OPERATING AT 49.8% CAPACITY CURRENTLY?

>> RIGHT. >> WHAT WILL THE PERCENTAGE OR CAPACITY BE ONCE ALL OF THE STRIPS ARE ACCOUNTED FOR?

>> WE WOULD HAVE TO RUN SOME NUMBERS. THAT 49% IS BASED ON THE P.M. AND WE DID NOT STUDY THAT HOUR. I COULD DO SOME CALCULATIONS AND GIVE YOU THAT PERCENTAGE.

>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN MAKING A DECISION ABOUT THE KIND OF IMPACT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE ON A.M. PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC. I ALSO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE CONDITIONS ABOUT STAGGERING THE TIMES. ARE THOSE WRITTEN INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? I THINK IT'S A QUESTION FOR OUR ATTORNEY ALSO. WHAT MECHANISM DO WE HAVE IN WRITING IN THE DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO? I LOVE GOOD INTENTIONS, BUT THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED IN GOOD

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INTENTIONS. >> THIS IS BY STRAIGHT REZONING. IT DOESN'T HAVE THOSE CONDITIONS YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SEE UNLESS THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY ADDED.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO OFFER THOSE

CONDITIONS IN WRITING? >> ARE YOU WILLING TO GO WITH THE NUMBERS ON THE 8:00 A.M. STARTING FOR ELEMENTARY AND

8:15 MIDDLE? >> THOSE CONDITIONS ARE NOT GOING TO BE IN THE DOCUMENT. I GUESS THAT THE MOTION OF APPROVAL COMES WE WILL COME WITH THOSE CONDITIONS. I HAVE A QUESTION. AS A DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE 50 SIGNATURES? OKAY. I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD JUST ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AS DIRECTLY AS POSSIBLE. I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR COMING UP AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I REALIZE YOU ARE IN A PRECARIOUS POSITION. I COMMEND YOU FOR COMING UP TO SPEAK. YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO THAT AND I COMMEND YOU. YOU STATED IDLING CARS WERE ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED IN THE SITE PLAN. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE CONCERN AS THE QUALITY OF LIFE?

>> IN THE A.M.. BACK -- A.M. PERIOD THERE WERE 183 GOING THROUGH AT ANY ONE TIME. THAT'S 183 VEHICLES SITTING IN TRAFFIC. THAT IS A TRAFFIC JAM. THEY ARE IDLING, WHATEVER HAVE YOU. THE EXHAUST, THE NOISE, WHATEVER. THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SHUT THE CARS OFF. THAT'S 183 CARS THAT ARE JUST IDLING.

>> YOU ALSO MENTIONED WHERE YOU ASSERTED THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH SEATS IN THE QUEUE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT. DOES YOUR ANALYSIS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE KIDS THAT WILL BE BIKING OR WALKING TO SCHOOL? I LIVE ON RACETRACK ROAD. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF KIDS GOING UP INSIDE -- UP AND DOWN THE SIDEWALK EVERY DAY.

IT'S SOMETHING I LIKE ABOUT LIVING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S VERY SAFE. THERE IS NOT NEARLY AS MANY CARS AS THERE ARE CHILDREN THAT ATTEND THE SCHOOLS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. DID YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE BICYCLES AND THE WALKING?

>> BE THERE I OR THE APPLICANT DID ANY KIND OF MODAL SPLIT. I DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WALKER'S. MY ANALYSIS WAS BASED PURELY ON WHAT THEY PRESENTED. THE EXTRA ROOM THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, THE 30% SEARCH IS BUILT INTO THAT TRAFFIC CALCULATOR. IT GIVES YOU A NUMBER FOR THE AVERAGE, BUT THEN IT SAYS THERE IS A SURGE. THAT CAN HAPPEN WEEKLY, WHATEVER. THAT COMES OUT TO BE OVER 5000 LINEAR FEET, WHICH

DOESN'T FIT ON-SITE. >> IS A SAFE TO SAY YOUR ANALYSIS ASSUMES IT WILL BE ALL VEHICLE DROP OFF FROM THE

STUDENT POPULATION? >> YES.

>> THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTION. ONE MORE FOR THE APPLICANT. MRS. AVERY SMITH, WE HEARD PUBLIC COMMENT FROM A WOMAN WHO SAID AND I THINK SHE SPOKE VERY ELOQUENTLY, THIS IS NOT VERY COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT EXISTS IN WITH WHAT THEY EXPECTED TO HAVE IT A COMMUNITY LIKE THIS. COMPATIBILITY IS SOMETHING WE ARE REQUIRED TO CONSIDER WHEN HEARING AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS. WOULD YOU PLEASE ADDRESS

COMPATIBILITY? >> I WILL AND THAT WILL DOVETAIL INTO A RESPONSE ABOUT IDLING CARS. AS YOU CAN SEE, HERE IS THE ROAD AND HERE IS THE SCHOOL. YOU LITERALLY HAVE THIS WELL AND OWNED BY THE H AWAY. IT WRAPS THE SITE AS PART OF THE REASON WHY THEY CHOSE TO PUT THE K-EIGHT ON THE SITE AND SOME OF THE SIDE. IT WILL ALSO BE BUFFERING FOR CARS IDLING.

IT WAS NOTED BY THE CINNAMON WHO ARE WITH ME FOR EXAMPLE MY CAR WHEN I STOPPED IT TURNS OFF. THE CAR MAY BE ON BUT IT IS NOT STILL RUNNING. MODERN CARS DON'T JUST CONTINUE TO TURN UP STUFF. WE WANTED THAT TO BE FITTED INTO THE RECORD AS

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WELL. >> THERE IS ALSO AS ANOTHER CONDITION THE PSA IN THE INTERSECTION THAT THE LIGHT DOESN'T COME ONLINE BEFORE THE SCHOOL. IS THAT SOMETHING IN THE DOCUMENT. IF IT'S NOT I THINK THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE EITHER THE SIGNAL ACTIVE OR THE PSA

THAT YOU HAVE OFFERED. >> I WANT TO RUN DOWN A LIST OF CONDITIONS JUST SO WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. AT THIS POINT I AM COUNTING FOUR CONDITIONS. THE ONE YEAR BOND FOR SITE ACCESS IMPROVEMENT IN THE EVENT CONDITIONS WOULD BE -- THERE IS THE QUESTION OF WHEN DOES THAT COME INTO PLAY? I THINK THAT IS A MEASUREMENT. THE PSA WHICH WILL BE FUNDED IN THE EVENT THAT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT IS NOT OPERATIONAL BY AUGUST 2025 BEFORE SCHOOL OPENING. THERE IS ALSO THE CONDITION ABOUT THE $370,000 CONTRIBUTION TOWARD THE SIGNAL. AND THE LAST CONDITION WAS ADDED RECENTLY REGARDING START TIMES. AND:00 A.M. FOR ELEMENTARY AND 8:15 FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

>> WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO IMPROVE THOSE CONDITIONS IF A

MOTION IS MADE? >> YES WE ARE WITH ONE POSSIBLE CLARIFICATION. I THINK YOU AND I MAY HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

OPERATIONALLY THEY CONTINUE TO TURN THE DIALS UNTIL THEY FIND OUT WHAT EXACTLY WORKS PERFECT FOR THE DROP OFF TIME IN THE MORNING. COULD THE CONDITION BE LIMITED TO 8:00 A.M. OR EARLIER? I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM TO ADJUST THINGS AS NEEDED.

>> I THINK THAT WOULD SATISFY THE CONCERN AND I AM OKAY WITH THAT. WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE DOCUMENT. I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WHY YOU OFFER

THOSE CONDITIONS. >> ALL I WAS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS IF WE CAN GET A BIGGER SEPARATION, I THINK FOR MOST OF OUR STUDENTS AND FAMILIES STARTING SCHOOL AT 7:50 VERSUS 8:00 IS A HUGE DEAL, BUT EXTRA SEPARATION FROM THE PEAK OF TRAFFIC FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. IF THAT WORKS BETTER, I WANTED US TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO FURTHER THAT WAY IF IT WORKS BETTER, THAT'S ALL.

>> AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I DO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING OUT. I REALIZE WHETHER YOU ARE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS IT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU GUYS CAME TO SPEAK UP. WE CANNOT DO OUR JOB WITHOUT YOU EXPRESSING YOUR CONCERNS. SORRY FOR THE LONG Q&A. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY AND I FELT WE NEEDED TO DO

THAT. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> COMMISSIONER ALAIMO . >> THE FIRST QUESTION I HAD WAS ALREADY ANSWERED REGARDING THE TRAFFIC AND WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO HAVE PSA'S. THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS A BIT RURAL, CORRECT? THERE IS GOING TO BE A SCHOOL THERE. HOWEVER THIS GOES OR NOT IT WOULD JUST BE THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER AND THE $375,000 THAT WE DON'T GET.

>> THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS OWNED OPEN WORLD.

>> THAT WOULD BE WHERE THE SCHOOL WILL GO. IT COULD ALLOW THE SCHOOL WITHOUT ANY CONTRIBUTIONS.

>> WE WOULDN'T GET THE LEARNING CENTER AND THE CONTRIBUTION?

>> AND YOU WOULDN'T GET ADEQUATE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT EITHER. I AM JUST BEING DEAD CANDIDATE. WE CAN DO IT ON FIVE. WE DON'T WANT TO. IT IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY. WE WANT TO BE A COMMUNITY ASSET AND INFRASTRUCTURE ITEM. WE ARE BEST IN THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE ABOUT TO SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THAT COMMUNITY. TO SAY WE ARE NOT INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY IS A MISSPEAK. WE WANT TO BE PARTNERS. WE WANT TO HELP THE COMMUNITY GET BETTER AS WELL. YES, YOU ARE RIGHT. WE COULD PUT IT ON FIVE ACRES. IT WOULDN'T BE WHAT WE WANTED.

>> THANK YOU. >> SAYING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION I HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS. I STEPPED OUT FOR

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A MINUTE. WAS THE ENHANCED BUFFERING PUT IN WRITING AS

WELL? >> NO, THAT WOULD BE A FIFTH

CONDITION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IF

THAT WOULD BE AGREEABLE. >> CONDITION NUMBER FIVE.

>> WHAT ARE THE SPECIFICS ABOUT THE ADVANCE BUFFERING? IS THAT ADDITIONAL WITH OR VEGETATION OR FENCING IF THERE IS ANY

CLARITY ON THAT? >> I AM LOOKING TO MY EXPERT.

>> YOU ARE NOT LOOKING FOR RYAN CARTER, WERE YOU?

>> NO, HE HAS GONE ON TO ANOTHER HEARING.

>> WELL, I AM GOING TO SAY THERE ARE A LOT OF DETAILS THAT WE CAN WORK OUT WITH MR. PHILIP. CAN WE SAY ON THIS SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE A MINIMUM 20 FEET AND 75% CAPACITY WITH LANDSCAPING? DID YOU HEAR THAT? 20 FEET ON YOUR SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE.

>> I WANT TO OFFER TO WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNER AND WAS STAFF ON OUR SITE PLAN APPROVAL. WE PROPOSE A LANDSCAPING BUFFER AND WE CAN CERTAINLY ADJUST THAT TO MAKE SURE WE DO THE BEST WE CAN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. WITH THAT BEING SAID I AM GOING TO BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS WITH THE CONDITIONS SHOULD THERE BE A MOTION. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS. I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THE GROUP HAS DONE EVERYTHING TO MITIGATE FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT CONCERNS TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY. I AM ALSO THRILLED TO HEAR THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD IS IN FAVOR OF THIS AND THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO ME. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE MY THOUGHTS. I DO THINK HAVING -- I DO THINK THIS IS OF THE MOST COMPETITIVE CASES WE SETTLED UPON. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

>> I DON'T WANT MY EARLIER COMMENTS TO BE INTERPRETED AS ME ATTACKING THE SCHOOL BOARD, WHICH MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED. WITH A LITTLE BACKGROUND LET'S BE CLEAR. THE BIG PICTURE HERE IS THAT OVER THE LAST 10 OR 12 YEARS THE LEGISLATURE HAS SET CERTAIN POLICIES AND CHANGE CERTAIN POLICIES. TWO BIG POLICIES THEY HAVE ADDRESSED THE OUR SCHOOL FUNDING. THE WAY THEY HAVE DONE THAT, THE FACTS ARE FACTS, I AM NOT JUST PULLING SOMETHING OUT OF THIN AIR. WE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE.

THE LEGISLATURE HAS CUT BACK DRAMATICALLY ON THE PUBLIC EDUCATION CAPITAL OUTLAY. THAT IS THE FUND THAT WAS USED UPON BUILDING A PUBLIC SCHOOLS K-12. THAT FUND HAS DWINDLED. WHAT HAVE THEY FUNDED? CHARTER SCHOOLS, $8200 PER STUDENT PER YEAR. I THINK AS LOCAL DECISION-MAKERS HERE I CALL RETAIL POLITICS. WE ARE DEALING FACE-TO-FACE WITH REAL RESIDENCE, REAL CONCERNS AND REAL ISSUES. WE HAVE TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS. I CAN TELL YOU I WAS FORTUNATE TO BECOME VERY BEST FRIENDS WITH OTIS MASON WHEN HE SERVED 30 YEARS AGO. I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING ABOUT DR. MASON, HE LOVES CHILDREN.

BLACK, WHITE, BROWN, YELLOW, HE LOVED ALL CHILDREN AND WANTED THEM TO HAVE QUALITY EDUCATION AND THAT IS WHY HE RAN FOR SUPERINTENDENT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT SITUATIONS IRONICALLY LIKE OTIS ELEMENTARY AND THE OVERCROWDING IS I DON'T THINK DR. MASON WOULD SAY THEY ARE GETTING THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION HE INTENDED. ON A TOUGH DECISION. YOU CAN'T PLEASE EVERYONE, I'M IN A POSITION WHERE I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS CHARTER SCHOOL. I WISH WE COULD SOLVE ALL THE

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PROBLEMS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY. HERE THE APPLICANT HAS DONE EVERYTHING HE CAN DO TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. IF YOU DRIVE 207 IN THE MORNING OR IN THE AFTERNOON YOU ARE STOPPED THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE BACKED UP FOR AND QUARTER OF A MILE. I THINK WE ARE MAKING HARD DECISIONS AND THIS HAPPENS TO BE ONE. WE HAVE WEIGHED THE EVIDENCE. WE HAVE WEIGHED THE DECISION-MAKING AND ON WHAT WE CAN. I AM GOING TO BE VOTING IN

FAVOR OF THIS. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER

DEAN. COMMISSIONER ALAIMO . >> THIS WAS MY TOUGH ONE FOR ME. THIS WAS -- I TRAVEL THIS AREA QUITE A BIT IN MY DISTRICT. THE TRAFFIC IS PRETTY HORRENDOUS. I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE GIVING THAT MIGHT IN THERE. I THINK THAT WILL HELP. TRAFFIC IS A MAJOR CONCERN. I UNDERSTAND WHAT TRAFFIC -- THESE FOLKS ARE SPEAKING ABOUT. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT TO SPOKE. I ALSO WANT TO THINK THE APPLICANT FOR MEETING WITH THE HOMEOWNERS AT TREATY OAKS. YOU ARE VERY PROFESSIONAL. I FELT LIKE YOU ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY. YOU DID A GOOD JOB TRYING TO HEAR EVERYONE'S CONCERNS. I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT THIS AS WELL. I BELIEVE CHARTER SCHOOLS, IT'S GIVEN PARENTS A CHOICE. IT IS PART OF, I BELIEVE IN CHARTER SCHOOLS. I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT THIS AS WELL WITH THOSE CONDITIONS. YOU MAY HAVE TO HELP ME OUT WITH THOSE. I WILL GO AHEAD AND OFFER A MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2024-31 APPROVING MAJOR MODIFICATION BRINKER CHARTER SCHOOL BASED UPON THE FACTORS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND. >> JUST TO MAKE SURE THE RECORD IS CLEAR WITH FIVE CONDITIONS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO ON THE RECORD. THE FIRST BEING THE ONE YEAR BOND FOR ANY SITE ACCESS IMPROVEMENT THAT MIGHT BE NECESSARY AFTER THE SCHOOL OPENS TO REMAIN IN COMPLIANCE WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY REGULATIONS. THE SECOND CONDITION BE THE FUNDING OF A PUBLIC SAFETY ASSISTANCE OFFICER TO DIRECT TRAFFIC IN THE EVENT THE SIGNAL IS NOT ACTIVE BY THE TIME THE SCHOOL OPENS IN AUGUST 25. THE THIRD CONDITION BEING A CONTRIBUTION OF $370 TOWARDS THE COST OF THE SIGNAL THAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING. THE FOURTH CONDITION BEING THE START TIMES WILL BE AT 8:00 A.M. OR EARLIER FOR THE ELEMENTARY STUDENTS, A: 15 FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS. THE FIFTH CONDITION IS THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE AN ENHANCED BUFFER ON THE O.R.

PARCEL TO THE EAST WITH HOUR MINIMUM OF 20 FEET ON THEIR PROPERTY AT 70% CAPACITY. THOSE ARE THE FIVE CONDITIONS.

>> DO YOU WANT ME TO REPEAT THOSE BACK TO YOU? OKAY.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

>> OKAY. MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2024-32 APPROVING

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2000 2201, BRINKERHOFF CHARTER SCHOOL BASED ON THE FACTORS

PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND. >> FOR THE RECORD THOSE ARE WITH THE FIVE CONDITIONS ARE STATED WITH THE PREVIOUS

MOTION. >> PLEASE VOTE. THAT ALSO PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY, THAT WILL BRING US BACK INTO GENERAL COMMENT.

>> WE WILL NOW HEAR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

>> MICHAEL MCDONNELL. I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO DO ANYTHING WE

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CAN TO MAKE SURE PUBLIC COMMENT IS TRULY AT 11:30-12:00. FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO BUT TRY TO MAKE IT ERE.

QUICKLY. IF WE CAN KEEP IT TIME CERTAIN THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. WHEN I SEE THIS NUMBER OF 598 PORTABLE CLASSROOMS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COUNTY HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE OWNED BY US? DO WE LEASE EVERY SINGLE ONE? IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE LEASING THE MALL, WHICH IS AN EXORBITANT NUMBER WHEN WE COULD BE PUTTING THINGS LIKE THIS IN PLACE TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE MORE CHARTER SCHOOLS INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND KIND OF MAKE THE SCHOOL BOARD STEP UP AND GET SOME ENCOURAGEMENT THAT THEY HAVE SOME COMPETITION. YOU HAVE TO START MAKING SOME ACTIONS. OUR SCHOOLS ARE BEING NEGATIVELY AFFECTED BY THE LACK OF SCHOOL TEACHERS, THE LACK OF RESOURCES, EVEN INCLUDING FUNDING FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY OF THEM. I WISH THAT WE HAD MORE CROSSING GUARDS IN OUR AREA. THERE ARE NOT VERY MANY.

JUULING TO CREE, I AM SURE THEY DO HAVE THEM AT THE BUSY INTERSECTIONS. WE HAVE THEM RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. THAT IS PRETTY MUCH ALL WE NEED IT FOR.

AS I RUN AROUND THIS COUNTY WE ARE DEVELOPING AT A PACE THAT NOBODY CAN POSSIBLY COMPREHEND OR MATCH. WE ARE GROWING AT A SCALE WHERE WE ARE GOING TO PUT UP A STOPLIGHT IN EVERY CORNER BECAUSE OUR GROWTH IS SO EXPONENTIAL WE CANNOT GET OUT OF THOSE ROWS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PUT UP A STOPLIGHT TO ENCOURAGE THE ABILITY TO GET OUT. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO DO TO DETER THAT INFLUX TO TRY TO STOP THE GROWTH THAT WE HAVE HAD OR SLOW IT, INTENTIONALLY SLOW IT. WE ARE BUSTING AT THE SEAMS. NOBODY THAT WORKS IN OUR COMMUNITY LIVES IN OUR COMMUNITY. YES, I'M TALKING TO EVERY FORM AND FACET OF LIFE. THERE IS A SELECT CROWD THE LIVES HERE. FOR THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE RUNNING OUR ROADWAYS, THAT IS WHERE EVERYBODY IS AT, ON THE ROADWAYS GETTING TO AND FROM THEIR JOBS. EVERYBODY IN 2024 IS DRIVING ONE HOUR PLUS TO GET TO THEIR JOBS. IT IS GETTING ALARMING. WHEN WE KEEP GROWING IT MAKES US SEE MIKE IS GOING TO BE AN HOUR AND A HALF

[Commissioners’ Reports]

TO GET TO THOSE JOBS. UNTIL SOMEONE STARTS TO SAY NO AND TO ASK THOSE HARD QUESTIONS. DON'T CALL IT AN ATTACK, YOU ARE SPEAKING UP. AND I HOPE EVERYONE OF YOU GUYS DO.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING THAT WE WILL

CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THAT BRINGS US BACK TO THE BOARD AND COMMISSIONER REPORTS. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>> I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF PICTURES FROM PONTE VEDRA BEACH. THIS IS A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS. ELIZABETH HAS THESE GROUPS THAT THEY MEET. THEY MAKE IT A FUN TIME AND PICK UP LITTER. WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IN THE BUDGET IS WE DO HAVE EXTRA MONEY TO HAVE ANOTHER CREW LITTER. WE REALZE HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY NICE AND CLEAN FOR TOURISM AS WELL AS INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY. I AM SEEING ROAD AND BRIDGE PICKING UP THEIR PAPER AND CUPS AND THINGS BEFORE MOWING THE LAWNS. I AM REALLY PROUD OF OUR TEAM AND EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN THE COUNTY WHO IS HELPING LIKE THESE GROUPS OF PEOPLE WHO GET TOGETHER AND DO THIS ON THE SIDE. SHE DOES HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE. IT HAS WHEN THEY ARE MEETING, WHEN AND WHERE. IT IS GETTING BIGGER AND

BIGGER EVERY TIME. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER ALAIMO?

>> NOTHING TO REPORT. >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. ON JULY 1 A BILL WILL GO INTO EFFECT THAT ALLOWS US TO FINE-TUNE AND MODIFY AT A LOCAL LEVEL WHAT IMPACTS THE LIVE LOCAL ACT CAN HAVE ON US. THERE IS TAX ABATEMENT THAT CAN BASICALLY HAPPEN IF YOU APPLY FOR A PROPERTY OR APPLY TO DEVELOP UNDER THE LIVE LOCAL ACT. SOME OF THAT CAN HAPPEN EVEN IF YOU ARE DEVELOPING AT 80%-120%. WE DON'T HAVE TO ALLOW FOR THAT. IF SOMEONE IS ALLOWED TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY BY RIGHT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO

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MAKE IT AFFORDABLE. THAT IS ONE MECHANISM OF CONTROL THAT WE DO HAVE. I AM NOT ASKING FOR THE BOARD TO TAKE ACTION. I AM ASKING FOR OUR STAFF TO COME BACK WITH INFORMATION ON HOW WE CAN ONCE THE BILL IS SIGNED INTO LAW TAKE ACTION TO ELIMINATE THIS CARVEOUT WHERE THERE IS TAX ABATEMENT FOR WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY MARKET RATE HOUSING. THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF CONTROL WHAT COMES ONLINE. THAT IS ONE MECHANISM WE HAVE TO CONTROL LOCALLY. IF WE HAVE BOARD CONSENSUS TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE LEARNING MORE ABOUT WHAT ACTIONS WE CAN TAKE. MR. TAYLOR, IS THAT CLEAR? ALL RIGHT. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> I WANT TO MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT. I HOPE IT IS BRIEF. I THINK SEVERAL OF MY CRITICS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS HAVE MADE COMMENTS ABOUT HOW I BLAME PREVIOUS COMMISSIONS FOR APPROVALS MADE PRIOR TO ALL OF US SITTING HERE. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR IN MY SPEECH BECAUSE WORDS MATTER. I HAVE NEVER BLAMED ANYONE. WHAT I DO IS STATE THE FACTS. EVERY TIME I MAKE A DECISION SITTING HERE I TRIED TO TAKE THE MAXIMUM ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION. IT IS A FACT THAT OVER 100,000 UNITS WERE APPROVED PRIOR TO 2008 AND NEVER BILLED UNTIL AFTER 2016. THAT IS NOT BLAMING ANYONE AND

[County Attorney’s Report]

I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ON THAT POINT. IT IS A FACT. WE ARE LIVING WITH IT AND WE ARE DEALING WITH IT AND WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THE CHARTER SCHOOL IN TREATY OAKS. IT IS NOT A BLAMING GAME. IT IS SERIOUS. IT IS A FACT. THAT IS MY REPORT.

>> THANK YOU. I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT TODAY. MRS. ANDREWS?

>> NOTHING TODAY. >> PLEASE REMEMBER THAT YOUR FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE FORMS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER MEETING WHERE I CAN REMIND YOU, THEY WILL BE DUE JULY 1.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.