[1. SJC Ordinance amending SJC Ordinance 2022-22, 2nd Reading. In September 2023, staff brought a discussion item to the Board for consideration of the County's Local Preference Policy. The Board's direction at that meeting was to get input from the Chamber of Commerce and to bring back recommendations. This item includes the recommended edits to the SJC Purchasing Policy relative to the Local Preference Policy, and other edits necessary due to organizational changes and administrative needs.]

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> NONE.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> NONE.

>> AND I HAVE NONE. COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> NONE. >> ALL RIGHT, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM . THAT BRINGS US TO

ITEM NUMBER ONE. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE IS THE SECOND READING OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE PURCHASING ORDINANCE , WHICH IS MAKING A FEW CHANGES AROUND POLICY . IN THE SUMMER, THE BOARD DIRECTED STAFF TO GO AND REVIEW POTENTIAL CHANGES FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNANCE POLICY , AND TO OBTAIN INPUT FROM THE COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO BRING CHANGES TO THE BOARD. WE HAD THE FIRST READING IN APRIL.

THIS IS A SECOND READING. PART OF THE CHANGES CONSIDERED THIS AMENDMENT FOR POLICY. THIS IS A TOPOGRAPHICAL ERROR THAT DID NOT COINCIDE WITH THE SECTION FOR THE POLICY ON ASSETS, AND THIS IS JUST INCREASING THE AMOUNT, WHICH IS COINCIDING WITH AN ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE. INFORMAL SOLICITATIONS HAVE BEEN CLARIFIED TO PROVIDE THAT. " PREFERENCES ADJUSTED TO APPLY ONLY TO INFORM RESUSCITATION AS OPPOSED TO OTHERS. THE PROTEST DEFINITION IS UPDATED TO PROVIDE THE PROTEST THAT IS A PROCESS THERE IS A DECISION BY THE COUNTY. RESPONDENT IS BEING ADDED JUST TO CAPTURE THE TERM FOR A SUPPLIER THAT RESPONSE TO A REQUEST OF PUBLICATIONS, WHICH IS A NORMAL PROCUREMENT PROCESS , AND IN THAT TERM IS ALSO INCORPORATED INTO A RESPONSIBLE SUPPLIER FREE BID PROPOSAL RESPONSE IS TO HAVE TERMINOLOGY CONSISTENT WITH THE EMERGENCY. ALL THESE HAVE BEEN UPDATED TO REFLECT URGENT SING DEPARTMENT. ALL REFERENCES TO PRIOR TITLE WERE UPDATED TO PURCHASE DIRECTOR , AND CLARIFICATION OF MY REPORT TO THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET. THEY'RE GIVING ROI TO INTEND ON IT WITH ENACTED BOARDS. THAT IS TO SEE WHERE IT IS BETTER APPLIED. THE DECISION IS THAT IT IS BETTER APPLIED FOR FORMAL SOLICITATIONS CATEGORY OF PROCUREMENT. SO, LOCAL

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PREFERENCE TO PLAY FOR EVALUATING CRITERIA FOR BEST VALUE. IS BASICALLY LOW BIDDER LOCAL QUOTE FOR WITH THE PREFERENCES BEING APPLIED TO. WE ARE NOT CHANGING ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, WE ARE NOT CHANGING HOW WE DEFINE THE LOCAL PREFERENCE CATEGORIZATION , IT IS IS WHERE WE APPLY THE POLICY. CURRENTLY IN THE POLICY, THIS PROVIDES A LOCAL QUOTE OR OR LOCAL BIDDER . WE ARE MOVING. ESSENTIALLY, WE WILL ADOPT LINKAGE INTO OUR PROCUREMENT THAT HAS ALL THE REQUIREMENT, ESSENTIALLY. IF YOU ARE A LOCAL BIDDER AND SUBMITTED A BID , YOU ARE AGREEING TO MATCH THE LOCAL PUBLIC GRID AS PART OF THE PROCESS. SO, WE DON'T NEED TO DO THE ADMINISTERED OF STEP OF NOTIFYING THEM, ASKING IF THEY AGREE, AND GOING INTO THE PROCESS. IT ESSENTIALLY IS BUILT INTO THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. THAT WILL ALLOW FOR EFFICIENCY PROCESSING PROCUREMENTS THAT ARE MEANT TO BE MORE EFFICIENT IN THEIR NATURE. AS AN ORDINANE CHANGE, THE IMPACT STATUTE 125, WE ARE EXEMPT FOR DOING THAT ESTIMATE WITH THIS. AND THEN IT IS TO THE BOARD TO ADOPT HIM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. WAS GOOD TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WE WILL NOW OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

>> TED FLAVIN. I TRIED TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM IN YOUR FIRST MEETING , AND SHE TOOK SHOOK HER HEAD ON TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU NEED TO STOP DOING THAT.

IT'S RUDE. WHY IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS HOLY DID WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY? THE PURCHASING DIRECTOR MINI PRESENTATION. IT IS WHAT SHE WANTS . WHAT DO WE, THE PEOPLE, WANT? WHAT DO WE, THE PEOPLE, NEED? OH, I SEE, YOU CONSULTED THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND NO OTHER GROUP OR ENTITY. HOW ABOUT PROFESSORS? WHAT ABOUT THE PURCHASING MANAGEMENT? HOW ABOUT PEOPLE THAT KNOW FROM PURCHASING? HOW ABOUT POLICE IN THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT OTHER THAN THE DIRECTOR? MY MOM WAS IN PURCHASING FOR YEARS , AND SHE WAS VERY WISE. SHE SHOWED ME WHAT AN INVOICE IS. SHE'S POINTING THE PRINCIPLES OF SOLE SOURCE PROCUREMENT , WHICH WE REALLY HAPPENS AND CORRUPTED COUNTIES. IT WAS SO CORRUPT THAT SHE DID NOT WANT TO BE A PURCHASING PERSON ANYMORE. SEE ACHIEVE A PROMOTION FROM A A SECRETARY TO A B SECRETARY , WHICH WAS $600,000 OR LESS PER YOUR, BUT SHE DID NOT HAVE TO BE SWAPPED IN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT PURCHASING , YOU SHOULD BE TALKING TO MORE THAN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE REALLY. THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WAS FOUNDED BY PRESIDENT WILLIAM HOWARD TAFT IN THE WHITE HOUSE AS AN ANTI-LABOR ORGANIZATION. AND I HAVE NOTICED , ATTENDING YOU FOR YEARS , YOU SEE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS ALL THAT AND A BAG OF CHIPS. THEY ARE NOT. ARE YOU TAKING YOUR ORDERS IN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE? YOU HAVE EVEN INVITED PEOPLE LIKE THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA BUILDERS COUNSEL TO GET TIME, AND TAKE THEIR ADVICE AND LAWMAKING , WRITING ORDINANCES, AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THEY ARE A CARTEL. THERE ARE THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION IN BUSINESS IN THE BUSINESS OF BUILDING HOMES. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY OUR DISCUSSIONS OF PUBLIC POLICY IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY SO FREAKING THE SHALLOW? I HAVE TO SAY THAT, GOING OFF OF THE COMMENT OF ONE OF OUR CITIZENS HERE , YOU ALL WERE RATHER DISRESPECTFUL. YOU COULD EVEN

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PUT POINTS ON THE AGENDA ANYMORE?

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN. MICHAEL MCDONALD. I WILL BRING BACK MY LAST COMMENT ABOUT PURCHASING HERE. I LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY SURPLUS VEHICLES WE WOULD LIKE TO AUCTION OFF FOR COMEDY WE PLAN TO BUY FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. WE HAVE ANY PROTECTIVE ABILITY TO DO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, BECAUSE WE ARE SURPLUS RIGHT NOW THAT WE PROPOSE TO AUCTION OFF , AND I SURE WE ARE MAKING MORE PURCHASES . I WOULD JUST LOVE TO KNOW , YOU KNOW, JUST A GENERAL GUESSTIMATE . JUST

ANYTHING. >> HEATHER HARLEY DAVIDSON, DYSTROPHY COUNTY COMMISSIONING CANDIDATE , 2070, REIF DRIVE.

THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENTISTS. THERE ARE MANY BOOKS THAT HAVE BEEN DRAFTED ON HOW MANY BIDS YOU GET. AND I QUESTION HOW THESE BIDS ARE AWARDED . I LIKE TO SEE THE COMMON DENOMINATOR DIRT. WHO HAS GOT THE DIRT? WHO IS MOVING THE DIRT? HIS BROTHER IS AUTHORIZING THE DIRT SALE AT THE COUNTY? OKAY? BEING A BUILDER, WE GOT THREE BIDS. IT'S NOT THE SAME GUYS ALL THE TIME. SHE COULD UP. I HOPE THE COUNTY CAN SEE THROUGH SOME OF THESE MECHANISMS THAT ARE PUT IN PLACE FOR CORRUPTION TO HAPPEN. SUCH A SOME APPOINTED BOARD MEMBERS THAT WILL MOVE THE DIRT. ANYWAYS, HAVE A GREAT DAY.

>> BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER, MADAM CHAIR. I AM A MEMBER OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE , AND REVISITING MORE THAN 1000 EMPLOYERS IN OUR REGION. LAST FALL, THE TIMBER WAS APPROACHED BY COUNTY PURCHASING DIRECTOR WITH THOUGHTS AND ISSUES THEY WERE FACING. IT HAD TO DO WITH THEM LAMENTING THE NEW CONTRACTING ORDINANCE DESIGNED TO HELP SMALL ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMPANIES SUCCESSFULLY NAVIGATE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE COUNTY. INSTEAD OF LOWERING THE COUNTIES COST , THE NEW ORDINANCE WAS ACTUALLY INCREASING COUNTY COST AS, IN SOME CASES, THE MOST QUALIFIED CONTRACTOR IN POTENTIALLY THE LOWEST BID WAS NOT EVEN PARTICIPATING IN THE RFP. THEY BELIEVED THAT AN ASSISTANT WITHOUT MAKE THEM COMPETITIVE. WORKING CLOSELY WITH JAMIE AND HER TEAM, WE ARE UP-TO-DATE SOLUTION THAT FINANCIALLY SECURES SMALL BUSINESSES , AND ALSO SAVES MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BY ADDRESSING A PREHUMAN SYSTEM THAT WAS TURNING AWAY THE MOST COMPETITIVE BIDDERS FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS.

ENTER THE NEW ORDINANCE. ALL INFORMAL CONTRACTS IN ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY UNDER $250,000.00 AWARDED BY PRICE WILL BE SUBJECT TO LOCAL PREFERENCE . IN OTHER WORDS, BUSINESSES LOCATED IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WILL BE GRANTED UP TO 10% PRICE PREFERENCE FOR THESE CONTRACTS . IN THE UPCOMING MONTH, THERE WILL BE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS FOR COUNTY BUSINESSES TO HELP THEM SUCCESSFULLY PARTICIPATE IN THESE PROCUREMENTS GOING FORWARD. AS A CELEBRATE MAY, 2024 AS NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS MONTH, WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THIS BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO APPROVE THE NEW ORDINANCE CHANGES , AS IT WILL BOTH HELP COUNTY SMALL BUSINESSES , AND SAY ST. JOHNS COUNTY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN FUTURE PROCUREMENTS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE? I AM SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> OKAY. THAT TAKES US BACK TO THE BOARD. COMMISSIONER

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WHITEHURST? >> I WILL MOVE TO ENACT

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-22 . >> SECOND.

[2. Public Hearing * Public Hearing on Acquisition of North Beach Utilities, Inc. Water and Wastewater System. At its regular meeting on March 19, 2024, the Board of County Commissioners ("Board") authorized the Utility Department ("SJCUD") to continue to negotiate the purchase of North Beach Utilities, Inc. (“NBU”), a private water and wastewater utility system within St. Johns County, and to schedule the public hearing required under Section 125.3401, Florida Statutes, on such purchase. The NBU system provides water and wastewater services to approximately 1,400 customers in Vilano Beach. As reflected in the report attached to this agenda item, SJCUD has analyzed existing operational and financial feasibility information to determine that the acquisition meets all County requirements under Resolution 2005- 39, related to the Utility Acquisition Policy, and is in the public interest as required by Section 125.3401. SJCUD requests approval of a Purchase and Sale Agreement to acquire NBU for $6,025,000 and to adopt NBU's current rates, fees, and charges for this service area upon closing of the acquisition. SJCUD will also present future plans for the Utility upon acquisition, including a recommendation for capital improvement plan ("CIP") projects and to transition the service area to the countywide utility rates in the near future. Finally, SJCUD requests the purchase and related CIP projects be funded through existing Utility reserves but requests adoption of a resolution (attached) that would authorize a financing contingency to evaluate future debt issuance to be presented to the BOCC in the future.]

>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, THAT TAKES US TO

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. >> MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING. OUR IDENTITY IS NORTH BEACH UTILITY ACQUISITIONS . THIS INCLUDES THE REVIEW OF ACQUISITION POLICY . SECTION 125 OF THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS , WHICH ALSO INCLUDES THE INTEREST REPORT , POSITIVE IMPACTS ON CUSTOMERS AT THE GROWTH ACQUISITION , AND FINALLY, OUR APPROVALS TO THE BOARD. FOR BENEFIT OF THE AUDIENCE , I WANTED TO PROVIDE A QUICK HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT TO THIS PRESENTATION TODAY. ON MARCH 18TH, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ADDRESS THE NORTHEAST ACQUISITION AND PURCHASE AGREEMENT , AND FINALLY NOTICED A PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED BY SECTION 125 FLORIDA STATUTES. WE SERVE 1000 SEWER CUSTOMERS ARE MERRILY LOCATED ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE.

BEHIND ANY ACQUISITION , THERE'S A LOT OF REACH THAT GOES COMPLETED, AND I WANTED TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE OUR KEY STAFF OF THE RESOLUTION. HE HAS SOME SUPPORT FROM OUTSIDE OF THE COUNCIL , AND OUR FINANCE AND CHIEF OFFICER. . THEY'VE BEEN A BIG PART OF THE COMMISSION SO FAR , AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE CLOSING INTEGRATION FOR US.

THIS STARTED THIS INITIATIVE , AND RUMOR HAS IT THAT THIS IS THIS HIS 45 POSITION. SO, I THINK YOU ARE IN GOOD HANDS. I MENTIONED THIS AT THE LAST PRESENTATION. IF THE COUNTY ACQUISITION POLICY. THIS POLICY WAS ADOPTED IN 2005, AND ADOPTED THE RESOLUTION OF 2005 . IT'S ALL ABOUT THE CUSTOMER.

THIS POLICY GIVES US GREAT GUIDANCE TO PROTECT THE CUSTOMER. ONE IS TO PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICE AT COMPETITIVE RATES , BUT NOT FORGETTING EMPHASIS ON PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT. THESE SEVEN AREAS LOOK AT RELATING TO WASTEWATER DELIVERY. WHILE WE DO THESE ACQUISITIONS, WE MAKE SURE THAT YOUR OBSERVING WATER RESOURCES . THE REMAINING ECONOMY OF SKILLS ARE ACQUISITION ON ECONOMY OF SALE. LAST BUT NOT LEAST , WE WILL ACQUIRE THESE ACQUISITIONS AT A WORKING VALLEY. STAFF IS LOOKED AT ALL OF THESE SECTIONS AND AREAS OF PUBLIC POLICY AND DETERMINE THAT ALL POLICIES HAVE BEEN MET. THIS LEADS US TO OUR MAIN PRESENTATION TODAY, COMMISSIONERS. WE ALSO WANTED ENSURE THAT THE PURCHASE IS OF BEST PUBLIC INTEREST. BASED ON CERTAIN STATUTORY CONSIDERATIONS OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES. MY NEXT SIX OR SEVEN SLIDES WILL BE RELATED TO THIS , RELATED TO FINANCES, WHICH IS EXPENSE STATEMENTS , BALANCE SHEET THAT INCLUDES ASSET LIABILITIES , COLLATED APPRECIATION AND CONTRIBUTION TO CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS CIC, AND BRICK BUSINESSES . PHYSICAL CONDITION, WHICH YOU HEAR ASSESSED AS A DISABILITY CONTRACT PRICE HAS BEEN PURCHASED AN AGREEMENT TODAY. IMPACTS ARE BOTH POSITIVE AND

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NEGATIVE. ANY INVESTMENT THAT THE PURCHASER WILL MAKE IN THIS CASE IS THE COUNTY AS THE PURCHASER. LAST BUT NOT LEAST THE ALTERNATIVE PURCHASE. TELL THE COUNTY NOT PURCHASE THIS, WHAT ARE YOUR ALTERNATIVES TO THE CUSTOMERS? FIRST ONE IS FINANCES. STAFF IS THOROUGHLY REVIEWED ALL THE FINANCES , INCLUDING FIRST RECENT INCOME AND EXPENSE STATEMENTS AND RATE PAY. IF UTILIZE OUR CURRENT ST. JOHNS COUNTY RATE , WE ARE VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN GENERATE OUT FOR THE SYSTEM. WITH AN ESTIMATED ONE .3 MILLION FOR A BUDGET FOR ANNUAL EXPENDITURES . WHAT THAT MEANS, COMMISSIONERS , IS THAT THEY SUPPORT THE OPERATIONS DAY TODAY. THAT DOES NOT PUT ANY BURDEN ON THE CUSTOMERS WHILE WE PURCHASES ENTITY. WE SELECTED A CONTINUING CONSULTANT TO PERFORM THE STUDY . ASSESSING ALL THE FACILITIES OF THIS UTILITY. IT WAS PROVIDED AND MADE PUBLIC FOR ANYBODY TO LOOK AT. UTILITY IS FAIR TO GOOD CONDITION BEING SYSTEMWIDE. SOME HIGHLIGHTS, WE ARE ASSUMING ABOUT $6,800,000.00 AS THE REPORT SUGGESTS. SPECIFICALLY PRIORITIZING WATER STORAGE TANK AREA FOR WATER PRESSURE , AND RECOMMEND SOME OTHERWISE SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS. BASED ON THE FEASIBLE FINANCIAL VISIBILITY OF THIS UTILITY, WE RECOMMENDING 4 MILLION AS IMMEDIATE IMPROVEMENTS , AND WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. THE REMAINDER WILL BE PHASED FOR THREE TO FIVE YEARS. THIS WAS IN PRIOR ACQUISITIONS. THIS IS A BIG WAY TO TRANSITION THE SYSTEM. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SLIDE . MONEY MATTERS TO CUSTOMERS. THIS IS CUSTOMER IMPACT BOTH POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE. TWO THINGS TO KEEP AN EYE ON. THERE IS A SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON , WHERE ALL OF THE WATER RATES ARE ON THE LEFT .

AND SOMETHING TO KEEP AN EYE ON IS THE SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON WITH UTILITIES OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY UTILITIES. THOSE TO KEEP AN EYE ON IS THE BASE RATE. THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY VERSUS UTILITY. AS YOU CAN NOTICE, THERE IS NO CONSERVATION RATE STRUCTURE FOR UTILITIES. IT IS FLAT. YOU CAN LAUNCH IT FROM ZERO TO $5000.00 OUT THE RATE STAY SYSTEM DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH YOU USED THROUGHOUT. THIS PROMOTES WATER CONSERVATION.

ANOTHER THING OF NOTE HERE IS THE BASE RATE. THAT IS TWICE THAT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY , AND ABOUT 2 1/2 TIMES OF THAT SITE.

WHAT THIS REALLY MEANS, COMMISSIONERS , AS THIS HAS BEEN SEEN BASED ON WHAT THE CUSTOMER DOES. WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE AFTER THIS. TWO THINGS BEFORE HE MOVED TO THE NECK SLIDE , I WANT TO POINT OUT THESE POINTS.

THE COUNTY'S FISCAL YEAR , THIS IS NOT RELATED TO THE TIMING OF PRIORITIZATION. THE COUNTY'S FISCAL YEAR COMMENCES NUMBER ONE, AND AS THE BUDGET YEAR, WE ADOPTED RATES FOR THE CPI WOULD RECEIVE IT OVER YEARS. THE ACQUISITION IS ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETE AND HONEST . FOR THAT TRANSITION, WE RECOMMEND THAT WE MEET ANNUALLY AT AN INCREASED RATE FOR NOW UNTIL WE MOVED TO THE NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS OCTOBER 1ST, AND COME BACK TO THE BOARD POSSIBLY AT THE SECOND REGULARLY SCHEDULED BOARD MEETING TO IMPLEMENT THE RATES.

THIS IS ALSO A REQUIRING A FLORIDA STATUTE TO DO THAT FOR RATES CHANGES. THESE ARE MORE OF THE RATES. JUST TO GIVE YOU A DISTRIBUTION OF BUILD USAGE. THE CHART COVER SHOWS THE INDICATED WATER CONSERVATION RATES IN EFFECT . FROM THE LEFT TO THE RIGHT , THERE IS PER MERRILY MORE USAGE . THE TAKE HIM HERE IS THAT 60% OF THE NEW NORTH BEACH CUSTOMERS VISIBLY

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USE 6000 OR LESS WILL BE AT A RATE PRODUCTION . THE REMAINING 40% WILL SEE AN INCREASE . PRIMARILY, THAT IS A RESULT .

THE MORE YOU CONSUME, THE MORE THE RATE WILL BE. LESS THAN 2 1/2% OF THE TOTAL CUSTOMER BASE IS WASTEWATER ONLY. CURRENTLY, NORTH BEACH URGES THEM WITH A FLAT RATE OF $45.00. WASTEWATER CUSTOMERS ARE CAPPED AT 10,000 GALLONS. SO, THAT RATE WILL INCREASE A LITTLE BIT. THIS IS A SIMILAR CHART. IT SHOWS THE DISTRIBUTION FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS ARE IN THE NORTH BEACH AREA THAT PRESENCE PROBABLY LESS THAN 3% OF THEIR TOTAL BASE. THE SAME STORY HERE, THE SAME MESSAGE HERE .

THE TEARS OF CONSERVATION REFLECTING WHAT THINGS ARE GOING TO BE. ONE IMPORTANT NOTE HERE IS THAT THE EXPERIENCE HERE THAT WE'VE HAD WITH PAST UTILITIES WORKING TOGETHER ON THE COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS, MANY TIMES WE SEE THAT IT IS THE SIZE THAT MATTERS. SOMETHING WE WILL ONLY SEE WHEN WE MEET THE CUSTOMERS AND TALK ABOUT IT. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OF COMMERCIAL RATES BASED ON THE SIZE. ONE THING I WANT TO NOTE FOR TO THE NECK SLIDE , COUNTY RATES ARE VERY COMPETITIVE INDIVIDUALS. ANY SERVICES PROVIDED ARE VERY COMPETITIVE.

THAT WAS BELOW THE AVERAGE OF 15 UTILITIES EACH MONTH IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. ALTERNATIVES TO ACQUISITION, THIS IS ANOTHER THING WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT. THERE IS TOO MUCH IN TIER ONE.

SHOULD THE COUNTY NOT BE ABLE TO BUY THE SYSTEM AS ALWAYS , POTENTIALLY ANOTHER PUBLIC BODY OR PRIVATE WILL PURCHASES. THE LEADERSHIP WILL THEN CONTINUE THEIR SERVICES TO THE NORTH BEACH RESIDENCE. I SHOULD MENTION THAT BASED ON PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, THE NORTH BEACH LEADERSHIP IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT SERVING CUSTOMERS. TALK TO THE RESIDENCE. THEY LOVE THEIR LEADERSHIP. I KNOW SHOULD DISCONTINUE , THAT THE NORTH BEACH LEADERSHIP PROVIDE A SERVICE THAT THEY PROVIDE FOR YEARS. HAVING SAID THAT, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THESE ITEMS. WE BELIEVE THE CURRENT WATER CAPACITY CONSTRAINED CONTINUED FOR WATER PRESSURES . THERE WILL BE CHALLENGES BASED ON OUR ASSESSMENTS ESPECIALLY IN THE MAIN REDEVELOP AREAS . LAST BUT NOT LEAST, BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE, WE FELT THAT IN OUR ASSESSMENTS THAT WHEN THE STRUCTURE CHANGES , THERE IS WIRED INFRASTRUCTURE. THE CONTRACT PRICE. WE HIRED AN EVALUATION. THERE ARE FOUR METHODOLOGIES USED BY THE CONSULTANT REPORT THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC . THE METHODOLOGIES REALLY ACTIVE LOW ACTIVATE FLOW MARKET BASE. WAS UTILIZED WITH 6.5 MILLION. NEGOTIATED CONTRACT PRICE THAT YOU COME UP TO HIS $6,025,000.00. WE ARE ALSO ASKING THE BOARD TO COME AT A LATER DATE TO FINANCE AND SEE THAT FIT. WE WORK WITH OUR BUDGET OFFICE AND FINANCIAL CONSULTANT TO DETERMINE AUTHORIZATION OF THE RESOLUTION. IT SHOWCASES FINANCIAL POSITION. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS A UTILITY RESERVE AND NOT A COUNTY RESERVE. WE ARE A PART OF THE COUNTY, BUT THIS IS AN

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ENTERPRISE FUND. THE TOTAL OF 50 MILLION IS VERY HEALTHY, COMMISSIONERS. THAT IS THE PART WE WILL USE THE CASH FROM. THIS IS MY FAVORITE SLIDE , WHICH IS POSITIVE FOR THE ACQUISITION FOR CUSTOMERS. THE FIRST ONE, IF SOMETHING IS PERSONAL TO ME , IT IS NOT ONLY IMPORTANT FOR THIS COUNTY , IT IS IMPORTANT AS A REGION. STEWARDSHIP STANDS, NUMBER ONE, FOR ME, PERSONALLY , THE COUNTY WILL ADOPT THE RATE STRUCTURE AND WELCOME A NEW CUSTOMERS WITH CONSERVATION CULTURE THAT WE ARE PROUD OF. THAT REALLY PROMOTES A MESSAGE OF WATER CONSERVATION THROUGHOUT THE REGION. WATER CONSERVATION IS ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE. PRICE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER , IS BELOW THE ESTIMATED MARKET VALUE, BUT THE MAIN THING TO CONSIDER IS THAT THERE ARE NO IMPACTS TO CURRENT RESIDENCE.

NOT EVERY ACQUISITION HAPPENS THIS WAY. WITH OUR TRIPLE S&P RATING AND FINANCIAL POSITION, RATE STABILITY AND FINANCIAL RESOURCES IS ABSORBED ANY NEAR CAPITAL INVESTMENTS AS A RESULT OF MANDATORY MAINTENANCE. THEY ARE BETTER EQUIPPED AND BETTER PREPARED IN POSITION FOR EVENTS. NEXT IS THE IMMEDIATE INFUSION OF 4 MILLION INTO THE SYSTEM FOR SERVICE RIGHT-OF-WAY. THIS WILL PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY BY STRENGTHENING STRUCTURE AT ANY LEVEL OF SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. LAST BUT NOT LEAST , THIS ACQUISITION WILL CAPTURE ECONOMIES OF SCALE. THAT'S PART OF OUR ACQUISITION POLICY.

WE HAVE A LOT OF SCALABLE RESOURCES . LICENSE ENGINEERS , 40+ OPERATORS , SELF PERFORMING BILLING AND CUSTOMER SERVICE THAT ALLOWS US TO PROVIDE 24/7 SERVICE TO OUR CUSTOMERS. THAT PRETTY MUCH AND OUR STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS . WE WILL QUICKLY FINALIZE SOME NOTABLE ITEMS . AS I MENTIONED TO YOU EARLIER , A PORTION OF THE ADOPTION OF THE CURRENT RATES WILL COME AT THE LATER DATE TO ADOPT THE RATES FOR THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY RATES. IT WILL PROBABLY BE THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER , AND WE WILL FOLLOW AFTER THAT. REGARDING LEVEL OF SERVICE , I WANTED TO BE TRANSPARENT TODAY ABOUT TWO OR THREE THINGS. ONE IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE UTILITY TREATMENT . THIS IS SOMETHING WE ARE NOT SURE MAY NEED TO HAPPEN , BUT THE STATE REQUIRES INSTALLATION FOR ANY COMMERCIAL ACCOUNT. WE'VE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE IN PAST UTILITIES , SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE TRANSPARENT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WILL BE NEEDED , SHOULD A COMMERCIAL ACCOUNT OF THE BACKFLOW. THESE ARE STATIONS THAT PUMP SEWAGE FROM A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OR ENTITY TO OUR MAIN SEWER SYSTEMS. WE HAVE ABOUT 246 OF THESE. IT'S NOT TYPICAL, BUT IT IS TYPICAL FOR A COASTAL COMMUNITY. THAT IS HOW COASTAL COMMUNITIES GROW. MAINTENANCE WILL BE BY THE HOMEOWNER. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR POLICY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY MAINTENANCE THAT WE OFFER RESIDENCE HERE AT ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE NORTH BEACH DOES NOT HAVE A FORMAL POLICY, BUT IT DOES PROVIDE SERVICES TO SOME OF ITS CUSTOMERS. IT'S AROUND THAT 200 FIGURE. LAST BUT NOT LEAST , YOU HEARD IT WE SHORTER TALK THIS MORNING ON THE WANTED $50,000.00 , SHALL THIS BE APPROVED, WHICH IS THE STORAGE TANK. WE STARTED THIS PROJECT RIGHT AWAY. THAT WILL GIVE US A HEAD START GETTING AHEAD IN NEXT YEAR'S REQUIREMENTS IN MAY AND JUNE. NEXT STEPS, COMMISSIONERS, IS

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THE COMPLETION . NEXT 90 DAYS WILL BE THE DUE DILIGENCE.

BUDGET PREPARATIONS FOR THIS UTILITY , PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION , TITLE CUSTOMER TRANSITIONS . THE 28 IS THE ESTIMATED CLOSING SO FAR. THAT COULD CHANGE , BUT WE WILL KEEP EVERYBODY IN THE LOOP ON THAT. THE ACQUISITION CLOSING DOCUMENTS WILL BE FINALIZED , AND WE DO PLAN TO HAVE CUSTOMER OUTREACH AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO INFORM CUSTOMERS WHENEVER THEY NEED TO MOVE FOR THE TRANSITION. AS I MENTIONED, WE CAME BACK TO THE BOARD IN OCTOBER FOR RATES THAT ARE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. THAT CONCLUDES MY

PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER

JOSEPH HAS A QUESTION. >> TWO QUESTIONS. ONE, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT COULD DERAIL THIS? I MEAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT EQUIPMENT. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT COULD BE SOME MAJOR THAT

WE CAN'T TO THE PURCHASE? >> NOT THAT I KNOW OF, COMMISSIONER. I THINK THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT DONE BY STAFF HAS BEEN INVOLVED. THIS IS A VERY WELL-RUN UTILITY. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SIX 20 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS , BUT THERE IS

NOTHING THAT I CAN THINK OF. >> THE OTHER THING IS THE PUBLIC RATER STATIONS AT THE HOMEOWNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR , WHEN THEY HAVE A PROBLEM, CAN YOU ASSIST THEM AND GET SOMEONE OUT THERE QUICKLY? OR GET THEM ANY FEEDBACK?

>> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION, COMMISSIONER. ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE MANY COMING OUT AND FIXING THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY.

ABSOLUTELY. >> OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?

>> ARRAY. WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. IF YOU LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME FORWARD, AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU WILL BE GIVEN

THREE MINUTES. >> GOOD MORNING. CHARLIE HUNT.

BILL CREEK STATE. IS GOOD TO SEE THAT WHAT THE ESTIMATED COST TO PURCHASE THIS WATER TREATMENT FACILITY , BUT WHAT IS THE ESTIMATED COST TO IMPROVE IT? TO CARRY OUT CHANGING OUT THE TANKS? I BELIEVE ONE TANK SHOWS IS FROM 1948, 1950, SOMEWHERE IN THAT TIMEFRAME , AND THE FILTER SYSTEM AND EVERYTHING ELSE. HOW MUCH WILL IT COST? OR IS THAT JUST HOW IT IS? WE SHOW THE IMMEDIATE PRICE ON A SIMPLE IMPROVEMENT, BUT ON THE ROAD, YOU START DOING MORE, MORE, AND MORE IMPROVE UPON IT. IS THERE A WAY TO PROJECT THAT? BECAUSE YES, THE FACILITY IS VERY OLD. AND IT IS NOT LIKE IT JUST SO HAPPENED IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR THAT THAT FACILITY CAME UP TO BE NOTICED. FROM HERE , IT IS THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT PROTECTION THAT SENT THE LETTER OUT TO THE PRESIDENT , AND IT BASICALLY SAYS A SURVEY SECTION WAS CONDUCTED ON YOUR SYSTEM ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2022. DURING THIS INSPECTION, A POSSIBLE VIOLATION OF CHAPTER 43 IN THE FLORIDA STATUTES, CHAPTER 63-555 WERE OBSERVED. DURING THE INSPECTION, DEPARTMENT PERSONAL NOTED THE FOLLOWING.

THE BEEN ROUTINELY EXCEEDING THE PERMITTED CAPACITY . IF IT HAS BEEN THERE THAT LONG WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF CUSTOMERS, WHAT IS MAKING IT SAFE TO PUT OUTING CONSUME -- RECOGNIZE THE CAPACITY IS BEING OVERWHELMED. RIGHT? THIS IS A WAY TO GET THE WATER OUT TO PUT IT UP FOR SALE? THERE MAY BE A LOT OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES , BUT YES, BACK IN, YOU KNOW, COMING UP ON TWO YEARS , THIS IS HAPPENING. I COULD NOT FIND ANY OTHER BONUSES PRIOR TO IT, BECAUSE THERE IS JUST NOT ONE NOTIFICATION FROM THE STATE ON THIS POINT OF FACILITY. IF IT

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IS BEEN MARKED DOWN TO JUST OVER 6 MILLION, HOW MUCH ARE THE IMPAIRMENTS GOING TO BE? WHERE IS THE LISTING OF ALL OF THAT? OKAY? ITEMIZE IT. AND YES, THIS LIST FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION SHOWING THAT THEY WERE OVERUSING THE CAPACITY OF THAT. THANK YOU.

>> IT AFTERNOON. MICHAEL MCDONALD. I'M GLAD WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THIS, PERSONALLY. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY. I JUST HOPE YOU GUYS REALIZE THAT THAT FACILITY HAS HAD LOTS OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE , AND THERE WILL BE EXTRA COST WITH THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE THAT TWO-POINTER MILLION DOLLARS ZERO IS NOT ENOUGH. A LOT OF THAT IS DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. AND A LOT OF THAT WILL BE VERY SHY. I THINK THAT IS A FOCUS ON JUST THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT ITSELF, POSSIBLY , AND NOTHING HAS AGED AS WELL. THERE'S LOTS OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE OPERATION.

YES, THEY SERVE THEIR PURPOSE, AND I AM SURE THOSE PEOPLE ARE THANKFUL BACK IN THE DAY. BUT AS TIME PROGRESSED , I AM SURE THEIR WATER QUALITY WENT DOWN. I AM GLAD YOU GUYS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY THIS. BECAUSE THESE IN THAT IN THE ASSESSED VALUE . IT'S OBVIOUSLY A VALUABLE RESOURCE TO US , BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED SOMEBODY TO THE WATER RATES TO OUR CITIZENS. THERE WERE A LOT OF RESIDENCE HAVE TO PAY IN GEA, WHICH EVERYBODY DOES THAT IN DUVAL COUNTY. THEY GO STRAIGHT TO THE DUVAL COUNTY RESIDENCE. I HOPE YOU GUYS PURCHASE THIS AND ARE WELL AWARE OF IT. IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US.

>> HI. I AM PATTY AT WILL. I LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND OR IN FRONT OF -- I'M ACTUALLY EXCITED TO BE A BIT UPGRADED.

IT WOULD BE NICE. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. THE DIRECTOR SPOKE DIRECTLY TO ME REALLY CALL ME RIGHT BACK. IT WAS WONDERFUL. I AM JUST MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE BUFFER BETWEEN MY HOUSE. I HAVE A LOT IN HALF, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER LOT IN BETWEEN. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, BECAUSE IT WASN'T CLEAR, IF THAT LOT IS INCLUDED OR NOT INCLUDED. IF IT IS INCLUDED , NEXT YEAR, THEY MENTIONED AN EXTRA WATER TANK.

THEY DON'T NEED IT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THEY WERE JUST BUYING THE PROPERTY THEY WERE SITTING ON , OR IF THEY WERE PART OF THAT. AGAIN, I AM EXCITED TO HAVE IT UPGRADED.

BUT IT HAS BEEN NO PROBLEM AT ALL . I NEED TO FIND OUT IF I HAVE A GRINDER PUMP. THAT IS ALL I WANTED TO SAY.

>> I AGREE WITH MR. MCDONALD AND THE OTHERS . IT LOOKS LIKE A BARGAIN. AS FAR AS THESE GRINDER PUMPS, THOUGH, THERE ARE OTHER UTILITIES TO DO IT ON THEIR OWN. CAN YOU CONSIDER THAT PART FOR THE COMMISSION MEETING? AM ALSO DELIGHTED THAT MOST OF THE RATEPAYERS THE UTILITY DISTRICT. AND I KIND OF SHOWS US WHERE WE NEED TO BE. THERE ARE OTHER UTILITIES THAT CAN BE PURCHASED , IF IT IS A READABLE PRICE IN REASONABLE FOR TAXPAYERS . I KNOW MY LATE FRIENDS DIANE AND JERRY MILLS NOT WOULD NOT WANT TO SETTLE THE UTILITY TO THE COUNTY. BUT

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THERE IS FOR THE MOMENT ACTIVITY TALKING ABOUT THE COUNTY , AND MAYBE WILL CONSIDER BUYING THE MOSES UTILITY TWO. NEVER HAD BEFORE , THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE FROM THE DATE IT WAS FOUNDED IN 1665 UNTIL THEY ARE PATTY SHAVER IN 2014, THE CITY HAD EVER DONE A WATER USE STUDY.

THEY HAD A FELLOW COME TO TOWN , AND HE TOLD OUR CITY COMMISSION THAT HE DID NOT SUPPORT TIERED RATE STRUCTURES . HE WAS AGAINST IT. AND I SAID, I DON'T CARE WHAT THIS GUY THINKS! WE NEED TO HAVE CONSERVATION RATES! THAT SAVES MONEY FOR THE RATEPAYERS, AND CONCERNS WATER. THEY TOOK HIS ADVICE AND FOLLOWED MINE. ANYWAYS, I THINK WE NEED TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS. I THOUGHT IT JUST SOUNDED BIZARRE THAT THE INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLDER HAD TO BUY AND MAINTAIN THEIR OWN GRINDER. I THINK IF THE CITY IS ON FIXED INCOME, SUCH AS OTHER FOLKS, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT DEVICE IS. THEY WANTED TO GO OUT OVERNIGHT AND FIX IT, AND THE ANSWER IS NOT TO GIVE CUSTOMERS A LOCAL LIST OF LOCAL CONTRACTORS WHO COULD DO THE WORK AREA AND FOR THE GOVERNMENT UTILITY, IT IS A GOVERNMENT FUNCTION. I LIKE THAT AREA THAT IS LONG PAST TIME THAT WE GIVE OUR UTILITY CUSTOMERS A FAIR SHAKE. THERE ARE SOME OF THE UTILITIES THAT WE MIGHT BY AS FAR AS DO-IT-YOURSELF REPAIRS . THANK

YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS BOB. I'M PRESIDENT 40 FACILITIES FOR THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM, HE ALWAYS BECAME VERY COOPERATIVE OF US. SO, WE APPRECIATE THAT INPUT. THIS'LL PROGRAM , WHAT THE IMPAIRMENTS ARE GOING TO BE MAKE THE CAPACITY OF THIS PLAN . IS THERE IN THE 66 PAGE REPORT.

THANK YOU, COLIN. THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MADE DON'T STAY LINES TO THE RIVER, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY CAN'T INCREASE THE CAPACITY AT ALL WITHOUT DOING THAT ON PAGES TWO, FIVE, AND SEVEN OF THE REPORT. THEY WILL BE DOING A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PLAN, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY IN IT FOR THAT PARTICULAR ITEM , WHICH WILL NOT ALLOW ANY CAPACITY TO BE EXPANDED FOR THAT REPORT. I WOULD ASK FOR A RECONSIDERATION OF PUTTING THE MONEY YOU SEE IN THE REHABILITATION FOR THIS FACILITY . INCLUDE THAT SO THAT WE, IN THE FUTURE, CAN TALK ABOUT THIS AT THAT POINT. I THINK IT IS A GOOD THING. ONE OF THE REASONS YOU MENTIONED THAT IT IS A POSITIVE EFFECT FOR THE RESIDENCE OF NORTH SHORE , AND ALSO, FOR THE EVENTUAL POTENTIAL DISCUSSION OF THE ACQUISITION OF ALL UTILITIES OF THE WATER PLANT, WHICH HE MAINTAINED FOR 45 YEARS. I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE . THANK YOU.

>> HEATHER HARLEY-DAVIDSON. 2070 REEF DRIVE. WITH THE PROJECTS I'VE DONE IN THE PAST, COMMERCIAL PROJECTS, WE HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR PUMPS. MY QUESTION IS, IS IT NORMAL TO PUT THIS OFF ON JUST THE GENERAL PUBLIC ? IN ADDITION TO THAT , WITH ALL THE BUFFERS, IT SEEMS LIKE ALL THE GOVERNMENTAL PROJECTS IN THE CHANGE-UP ST. JOHN'S FOR WATER MANAGEMENT APPROVED LITIGATION , THANK YOU, MR. DEAN. WILL WE

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START UP LAMENTING MORE BUFFERS AROUND OUR COUNTY PROJECTS? WHEN WE DO COUNTY PARKS, WE ARE JUST RAKING OUR LAND. WE HAVE TO CUT THIS OUT. THE QUESTION THAT STANDS, IS IT NORMAL TO PASS A BUFF TO THE TAXPAYER ? I UNDERSTAND BEING A COMMERCIAL PROJECT , AND HAVING TO MAINTAIN THAT. IF I REMEMBER, SOME OF THESE COSTS WHEN I HAD TO REDO IT, MY GRINDER PUMPS WERE $1600.00. THAT IS JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. ESPECIALLY COMMISSIONER ARNOLD AS THE CHAIR . I AM VIVIAN BROWNING. I LIVED IN MILANO SINCE 1986. I CONSIDER THE FAMILY WHO OWNS THIS UTILITY, I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PURCHASE. THIS FAMILY HAS SHOULDER THE BURDEN OF PROVIDING SEWERS FOR OUR AREA .

THERE IS NO COUNTY WATER AND SEWER COMING UP COMING ACROSS THE RIVER AND OUT THERE TO US . THAT HAD TO DEPEND ON THE PERSONAL ROLES . SO, THIS IS OVER 50 YEARS . THE SUCCESSION TO THE COUNTY IS TIMELY. WE PAID GOOD PROPERTY TAXES OUT THERE , BECAUSE THE AVERAGE PRICE FOR THE COMMUNITY RIVERFRONT , THIS PURCHASE PRICE IS APPROXIMATELY ABOUT TWO OCEANFRONT HOUSES. THIS IS A GOOD DEAL FOR THE COUNTY . AT CROSSROADS THAT HAPPENED DURING MY SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY WAS IN 1995 . WE NEEDED WATER AND SEWER CAPACITY FOR THE TOWN CENTER TO BRING SERVICES SUCH AS A GROCERY STORE. THEY WERE WILLING TO BRING A NEW CAPACITY TO WORK WITH GREG CALDWELL.

THANK YOU, GREG, FOR DOING THIS INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE. SO, THEY GOT US THROUGH THAT, AND I THINK THE COUNTY HAS REAPED THE BENEFITS OF OUR TAX BASE OUT THERE. FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS IS STILL OUR FIRST FAMILY . THEY HAVE THE BEST CAMPGROUND IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THEY WERE HELPING US OUT, AND WE APPRECIATE IT. I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING US BRING THIS TO YOU ALL. THIS HAS SHOWN THAT HE CAN TAKE CARE OF THIS .

I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND IT PUTS US UNDER THE COUNTY PROTECTION, WHICH WE DESERVE FOR THE TAXES . I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT FOR OUR PERSONAL TIME. THANK YOU.

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>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. FIRST OF ALL, WE ALREADY ALWAYS BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS TO OUR NEIGHBORS. TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION , THE PROPERTY SHE IS REFERRING TO IS NOT FOR SALE. I TALKED TO HER EARLIER , IT WAS NOT PART OF THE SALE. THAT IS NOT ON DECK TODAY. SO, THE WATER TANK THAT SHE AND OTHERS HAVE REFERRED TO ARE PART OF OUR DUE DILIGENCE . WE ARE LOOKING AT A SITE , AND THE REASON WE ARE DOING THAT IS YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE BETTER WATER PRESSURES ON THE SOUTHSIDE. WE ARE PUTTING IN A NEW TANK ON THE SITE, BUT WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AS PART OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU NOW HAVE. WE HAVE SOME GREAT IDEAS. STAFF HAVE COME UP WITH SOME GREAT IDEAS . HAS TO BE ABOVE GROUND. THERE ARE SOME COLORS INTO HOW THE TANK PLANTS IN THE COMMUNITY. UNFORTUNATELY LAND IS NOT AVAILABLE . THERE ARE A FEW OPTIONS , BUT I THINK

IF THE SPOT CHOSEN. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH HAS A QUESTION.

>> THE NEW TANK WOULD COVER THE WATER CAPACITY ISSUE WITHOUT HAVING TO CONNECT? AND THEN THE LAST THING, DO JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE GRINDER PUMP BRIEFLY?

>> YES. A COUPLE OF COMMAS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE PAST . TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNTY POLICY , WE STAFFED 60,000 ACCOUNTS WITH 2000 PEOPLE. WE DO NOT MAINTAIN THE COUNTY.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO UNDO ANYTHING, WE ARE TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR CUSTOMERS. IN NORTHEAST, THEY HAVE 600 CUSTOMERS. CURRENTLY, NORTH BEACH IS NOT TAKE CARE OF THEM.

THERE ARE NO POLICIES. THERE IS NO CONTRACT WOULD HAVE SPECIFICALLY BEEN DONE. THERE IS PROBABLY SOME PARTICULAR TIME, NOT SURE WHEN , BUT THEY STOPPED MAINTAINING THESE. IS TYPICALLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOMEOWNER IF THAT ANSWERS

THE QUESTION. >> THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSIONS? COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION IF THERE ARE NO OTHER

BOARD COMMENTS. >> JUST FOR THE BOARD ON THE PRESENTATION , IT SHOWS TWO MOTIONS. THERE IS A THIRD MOTION TO THE BUDGET TRANSFER THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET. WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR MOTIONS, I WILL REFER TO EMOTIONS IN YOUR

PACKET. SORRY. >> BUT I DID HAVE ONE COMMENT TO, IF I MAY. I FIRST WANT TO SAY THERE HAS BEEN AN OUTSTANDING JOB. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT, AND HE IS AN OUTSTANDING JOB. I THINK THE FIRST QUESTION I ASKED NEIL IS NUMBER TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO WHEN WE HAD THE MASTER PLAN ON 207? WE RECLAIMED IT AND USE IT FOR IRRIGATION. THERE IS A STATE LAW THAT REQUIRES THAT WE NO LONGER DISCHARGE WASTEWATER

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BY 2030 NOW. SO, I WAS A LITTLE MORE CURIOUS . WELL, THE GOOD NEWS IS THEY'VE ACTUALLY DISCHARGE TREATED WASTEWATER INTO THE OCEAN. SEVERAL SPEAKERS RAISE THE INTEREST ABOUT DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. IN THIS CASE, THE STANDARD IS ALREADY BEING MET . THAT'S SORT OF GOOD NEWS AT THIS POINT. I'M PRETTY MAKE A MOTION FOR THE BOOK AND NOT THE SCREEN. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 205 DETERMINE IF THEY WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM BY ST. JOHN'SCOUNTIES IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST OF THE GAME INTO THE PURCHASE AND SALE OF UTILITY ASSETS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING CHARITABLE EDUCATOR AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY THAT POLICY ACQUISITION. THOSE ARE TWO RATE FEES, CHARGES, AND COSTS. THAT IS THE FIRST MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2024-206 FROM THE COUNTY'S ATTEMPT TO REIMBURSE ALL PROCEEDS FOR TAX-EXEMPT THAT THE VARIOUS COSTS RELATING TO THE ACQUISITION OF CERTAIN WATER , AND THE ACQUISITION CONSTRUCTION AND EQUIPMENT FROM VARIOUS CAPSULE IMPROVEMENTS .

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

>> AND THE THIRD , MOTION TO TRANSFER $6,025,000.00 FROM A CAPITAL OUTLET RESERVE TO UNDERSTATE THE CAPITAL PROJECTS

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FOR THE ACQUISITION UTILITY. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT

PASSES 5-0 AS WELL. >> GREAT JOB, TEAM.

>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. WE ARE LITTLE EARLY FOR TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT WE HAVE A LARGE ITEM AFTER THAT. SO, WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT EARLY.

>> I WILL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR MATTERS NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS HAVE A REGULAR PUBLIC, PERIOD. ANYONE SHOULD COME TO THE PODIUM AND ADDRESS THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS. EVERYONE IS PROVIDING THREE MINUTES AND PROVIDING RULES OF DECORUM., SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE , AND NOT TO ANY ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONER, AND MAY NOT INCLUDE A DEMAND FOR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FOR THE BOARD. NO PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR BEHAVIOR. MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ANY DISRUPTIVE DEMONSTRATION, APPROVAL, OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS .

FINALLY, ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS A HOME ANY OVERHEAD MATERIAL, PRESENTED THE MATERIAL TO BE ENTERED INTO THE

PUBLIC RECORD. THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

I REPRESENT MYSELF AND KAREN. I GUESS TODAY, I AM ALSO RESENTING EVERYONE ON THE BUS HEADING TO TALLAHASSEE EARLY THIS MORNING. AS I SAID BEFORE, KERRY SEEKS TO MAKE OUR COMMITTEE HELP HAPPY. WE BELIEVE OUR LOCAL GOVERNANCE IS NOT THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR RESIDENTS. WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ACKNOWLEDGE AND SUPPORT OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS. HAVE BEEN PLEASED AND IMPRESSED WITH THE BROAD BASE OF OUR HIGHLY EFFECTIVE COMMUNITY THAT THE STAFF HAS LED TO BEFORE THE STATE BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM TO SAINT AUGUSTINE. THIS IS HUGE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AS OUR DELEGATION IN TALLAHASSEE , AND TOURISM AND CULTURAL DEVELOPMENT POINTED OUT , IT PROVIDES A VERY REAL AND UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY TOGETHER , AND TO HEAR WHAT ASSESSOR DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS ERA. ST. JOHNS COUNTY STILL HOLDING EARLY WITH THE TAX SOURCE , AND THE LAND OF THE MOUTH IS ALWAYS A

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FORMIDABLE STATE. I HOPE THAT THE COUNTY WILL CONTINUE ITS INSPIRED LEADERSHIP TO BRING THE NEW STATE MUSEUM HERE, AND WITH CONTINUED BROAD STRONG COMMITTEE SUPPORT. FINALLY, A WORD ABOUT COMMITTEE SUPPORT. WERE NOT FOR THE MIRACLE ON ITEM THAT MORNING , WE COULD'VE BEEN DEALING WITH A TRAGEDY. I WAS ON THE BUS IN THE BACK WHEN THE FIRE STARTED, AND I COULD ATTEST THAT WE WERE CHOKING ON THE SMOKE. IT WAS VERY SCARY.

BUT WITH THE HELP OF THE BUS DRIVER, WE ALL GOT OUT SAFELY, AND MOST OF US WERE TAKING INTO THE CLINIC. A FEW OF OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS WERE ABLE TO CATCH RIGHT TO TALLAHASSEE , BUT WE WERE IN TROUBLE AND CIRCLE BACK TO HEALTH. THEY SEE JOY ANDREWS, THERE WERE VANS TO PICK UP THE REST OF US WHO WERE STRANDED. THEY EXPORTED US QUICKLY TO TALLAHASSEE JUST IN TIME . I THINK ALL WHO WERE THERE THAT THEY CAN ATTEST THAT WHEN OUR BUS CONTENTION ARRIVED , THAT WE WERE CHOKING ON THE SMOKE. ORLANDO MAY BE BIGGER AND HAVE MORE MONEY, BUT THEY WILL NEVER MATCH THE RICH HISTORY OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY BRINGS TO THIS PROJECT. IN THIS REGARD, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THE BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM INTO THE FUTURE.

THE MITRITA CAN BE DONE IN THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY PULL TOGETHER. SO, LET'S TRY THIS CLAPBOARD OF COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS SOME OF OUR OTHER COMMON PROBLEMS LIKE READING AFFORDABLE HOUSING . THANK YOU.

>> 1808 VISTA COVE ROAD. I AM A SLOW TALKING PERSON , BUT THIS IS ALL OF THE IMPORTANT STUFF. I AM JUST HERE TO SAY AMEN. IT WAS A WONDERFUL DAY FOR OUR COUNTY. IT WAS AMAZING TO SEE HOW THE COUNTY WORKS TOGETHER . FROM BRINGING ALL OF THE VANS TO GET US THERE TO TARA MING, WHO SPOKE SO ELOQUENTLY , AND JOY, WHO HAD DONE ALL THE BACKGROUND WORK , AND SARAH ARNOLD, IT WAS JUST ALL AMAZING. I'VE NEVER BEEN PROUDER OF OUR COUNTY , AND I TAKE IT IS A NEW DAY DAWNING FOR US . I JUST WANTED TO SAY AMEN TO ALL VICKI SAID. THANK

YOU. >> YOU GUYS CAN ALL LINE UP. WE

HAVE THREE MICROPHONES. >> IS THIS ON?

>> YES. >> GREAT. BE JAKE LADY. I JUST HEARD ABOUT THIS, AND YOU WILL ME KNOW ABOUT THIS, BUT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO KNOW. THE SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY, TODAY IS HIS LAST DAY. WE NEED TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT HE IS ON FOR THIS COUNTY . I HEARD ABOUT A POEM THAT IS CALLED THE DASH 01. I WILL READ IT QUICKLY. I READ OF A MAN WHO STOOD TO SPEAK AT THE FUNERAL OF A FRIEND. HE REFERRED TO THE DATES ON THE TOMBSTONE FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END. HE NOTED FIRST THE DATE OF BIRTH, AND SPOKE THE FOLLOWING DAY EACH YEAR, BUT HE SAID WHAT MATTERED MOST OF ALL WAS A DASH BETWEEN THE YEARS. FOR THAT DASH ARE PRESENT ALL THE TIME OF LIFE SPENT ON EARTH , AND ONLY THOSE WHO LOVE THEM KNOW WHAT THAT LITTLE LINE IS WORTH. IMAGINE NOT THE CARS, THE HOUSE, THE CASH. WHAT MATTERS IS HOW WE LIVE , LOVE, AND I WE SPEND OUR DASH. THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE, FOR YOU NEVER KNOW HOW MUCH TIME IS LEFT BACK AND STILL BE REARRANGED. IF WE CAN JUST LOAD ON ENOUGH TO CONSIDER WHAT IS TRUE AND REAL, AND ALWAYS TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE WEIGHT OF HOW IT FEELS. BE LESS QUICK TO ANGER INTO APPRECIATION MORE. WE LOVE THE PEOPLE IN OUR LIVES WHO NEVER LOVE EACH OTHER. SO WHEN YOUR EULOGY IS BEING READ WITH LIFE AND ACTIONS TO REHASH, WOULD YOU BE PROUD OF THE THINGS THEY SAY ABOUT HOW YOU SPENT YOUR DASH? I THINK THESE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU, MR. BRADLEY.

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>> HELLO. MY ADDRESS IS UP FRONT. AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT THE PRO-ABORTION AMENDMENT. IT SAID THAT THIS HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.

THIS IS A RESOLUTION OPPOSING EXTREME PRO-ABORTION AMENDMENTS. PRO-MEMBER ORGANIZATIONS , EQUITY PLANNED CURRENT CODE, AND THE ACLU, PLACED A PRO-ABORTION PROPOSED CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TITLED EMINENT FOUR. AMENDMENT TO LIMIT GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE WITH ABORTION ON THE NOVEMBER FIFTH, 2024 STATEWIDE BALLOT. RESUME FOUR BALLOT SUMMARY STATES NO LAW SHALL PROHIBIT, PENALIZE, DELAY, OR RESTRICT PORTIONS BEFORE VIABILITY OR WHEN NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE NATION'S HEALTH AS DETERMINED BY THE PATIENT'S HEALTHCARE PROVIDER. THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT CHANGE THE LEGISLATURES AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE NOTIFICATION TO APPEAR BEFORE A MINOR HAS AN ABORTION. WHERE IS THE WORDING IS INTENTIONALLY DECEPTIVE , AND THAT IS DESIGNED TO MAKE VOTERS BELIEVE AND ALLOW REGULATION FOR ABORTION AFTER VIABILITY , BUT INCLUDES A BROAD LOOPHOLE THAT WILL ALLOW ABORTION TO PERMIT BIRTH. IF THE HEALTHCARE PROVIDER CAN BE THE CLINIC NURSE WHO CLAIMS IT IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE PATIENT'S HEALTH , WHICH COURT SEVEN DID HAVE BEEN JUSTIFYING ABORTION FOR VIRTUALLY ANY REASON , INCLUDING MORNING SICKNESS, ANXIETY , OR EVEN FINANCIAL STRESS. RESIDENT FOUR WOULD REPEAL FLORIDA'S HEARTBEAT PROTECTION ACT , ELIMINATE PARENTAL CONSENT FOR MINORS SEEKING AN ABORTION , WHILE DECEPTIVELY ALLOWING PARENTAL NOTIFICATION. REPEAL THE 24 HOUR WAITING PERIOD, AND SONOGRAM REQUIREMENT , AND DO AWAY WITH THE CLINIC SAFETY REGULATIONS FOR WOMEN BY ABOLISHING THE LEGISLATURES POWER TO REGULATE THE ABORTION INDUSTRY IN VIRTUALLY ANY WAY WHATSOEVER. AND WHERE IS ANY ORGANIZATIONS , INCLUDING THE RIGHT TO LIFE COALITION FLORIDA , THE FLORIDA CONFERENCE OF CATHOLIC BISHOPS, THE FLORIDA POLICY COUNTY COUNSEL, FLORIDA VOICE , AND OTHERS HAVE CONDEMNED THIS EXTREME PRO-ABORTION AMENDMENT. NOW THEREFORE LET IT BE RESOLVED TO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMISSION STRONGLY COMMENDS THIS NOT MISLEADING AMENDMENT, AND ENCOURAGES YOU TO GO AGAINST IT. I HOPE IF THIS EVER COMES UP ON YOUR DESK, YOU DO NOT ALLOW AN ABORTION CLINIC TO

COME IN OUR COUNTY. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS PAT PHILLIPS. MY SIDEWALK , I HAVE HEARD ABOUT COMPLAINTS OF THE SIDEWALK PAVERS, AND MINE WAS PROFESSIONALLY INSTALLED. MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS TOLD ME THAT THEY LIKE THE SIDEWALK, AND WANT TO DO THE SAME THING AT THEIR HOUSE. A SIDEWALK DOES NOT CAUSE DRAINAGE TO MY NEIGHBOR. MY SIDEWALK ALLOWS THE WATER TO DRAIN IN BETWEEN. BESIDES THAT, MY HOUSE HAS GUTTERS ALL THE WAY AROUND , AND DRAINAGE RUNNING UNDERGROUND INTO THE PIPES TO THE CANAL IN THE BACK. FRONT OF THE HOUSE GOES OUT TO THE STREET. BECAUSE OF THE CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE HOMES, THERE IS A LACK OF SUNLIGHT MAKING IT NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO GROW GRASS. I'VE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH MACULAR DEGENERATION AND VERTIGO. THIS MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO WALK ON AN UNEVEN SURFACE. I AM ASKING YOU TO WAIVE THIS, IN MY CASE, AT LEAST, AND ALL THE HOMEOWNERS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU.

>> ONE MOMENT, PLEASE. THIS IS ACTUALLY A COUNTYWIDE ISSUE , NOT JUST REGARDING ONE INDIVIDUAL. I WOULD LIKE OUR

TEAM TO ADDRESS THIS. >> YES, MADAM CHAIR. WE HAVE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS ACTUALLY IN A SIMILAR FASHION BASED ON A REACTION TO ONE HOMEOWNER RECEIVED AN ENFORCEMENT PROCESS. BASED ON WHAT WE ARE RECEIVING , THEY MEET THE ORIGINAL STANDARD . SO, WE HAVE CREATED SECONDARY PRIORITIES AS WE HAVE TIME. OTHERWISE, IT WOULD REALLY HIJACK EVERYTHING. I WOULD SAY YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO

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WORRY ABOUT. >> MADAM CHAIR?

>> I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION FOR HIM. THIS GOES TO EVERYONE ELSE IN THE SITUATION. ANYONE ELSE, I'VE BEEN GETTING PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS. I JUST WANT THIS TO BE A HANDLED LINCOLN STATEMENT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH US FOR THESE COMPLAINTS. I JUST WANT YOU TO LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY. WE ARE ON TOP OF IT , AND THERE'S DEFINITELY NOTHING ELSE TO WORRY ABOUT. COMMISSIONER , WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY

SOMETHING? >> YES. I'VE ALSO BEEN ADDRESSING THIS. THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT. I SPOKE TO THE HEAD OF CODE ENFORCEMENT AS WELL IN PERSON. BECAUSE ARE THERE FOR A REASON , BUT ALSO, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT IS A PROBLEM. I THINK IF THE STAFF COULD LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THE PERSON WHO PUTS IN A COMPLAINT IN THE COUNTY , WITHIN A MILE OF THEIR HOME, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, SOMEONE COULD LIVE IN NORTH CAROLINA, GO ON GOOGLE MAPS, YOU KNOW, AND HARASS OUR ENTIRE COUNTY AND SET OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAD A CONSENSUS TO MAYBE HAVE THEM LOOK AT THAT? JUST

RULES FOR PRIDE? >> WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS LUIS PHILLIPS. I AM REALLY HERE TO ECHO HER CONCERNS . I DON'T WANT TO SAY TOO MUCH ON THIS. THERE'S NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT, BUT SHE IS ALREADY HAD THE COUNTY FOR SO LONG. SO, SHE IS ALREADY UNDERWAY IN THE PROCESS. SHE HAS GOT CLEAR DISABILITIES, YOU KNOW ? CAN HAVE IT AS A WORKAROUND IN THE MEANTIME.

BECAUSE YOU PUT A SEMI-FINANCIAL HARDSHIP , BUT PUTTING HER IN A PLACE THAT THREATENS HER OWN SAFETY REQUIRES THE POCIC WOMEN OVER THERE. SHE ALWAYS HAS CONCERNS , AND WITH A WARNING ISSUED, WE ARE BACKED UP VIRTUALLY.

>> CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT, AGAIN? CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. WE'VE BEEN TOLD TO TAKE NO ACTION AT THIS POINT.

>> THAT IS THE PATH WE ARE TAKING RIGHT AT THIS POINT.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE PAVERS ONE MORE TIME. THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THAT EARLIER. MY SAFETY COMPLAINT FOR MR. FORMER IN 2024, THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY HIM THE SITUATION VIOLATIONS ARE NOT IDENTICAL. THIS IS NOT AN EQUAL CASE . THIS IMPACT IS IMPACTING THE PROPERTY , RESULTING IN A COMPLAINT. MOREOVER, IT IS CRUCIAL TO NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT RESIDE IN THE SILVERLEAF COMMITTEE. FILE HUNDREDS OF COMPLAINTS TO THE COUNTY. THIS LEAVES ROOM FOR MISINTERPRETATION AND NO CONTEXT. I URGE YOU TO RECONSIDER THE LANGUAGE AND PROVISIONS OUT OF COME. IT LACKS CLARITY FOR INTERPRETATION. THANK YOU.

>> HI, MY NAME IS BRITTANY. THIS IS ALSO A PAPER ISSUE. I DO WANT TO ADD THAT THE PAVERS THAT MOST HOMEOWNERS ARE PUTTING IN IS NOT NECESSARILY FIXING THE PROBLEM . WE DO WANT TO HAVE THE USE OF OUR FULL PROPERTY , CYCLIC THIS IS AN EASIER WAY . BECAUSE THESE HOUSES ARE SO CLOSE TOGETHER , IS NOT EASY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS SET UP CORRECTLY IN TIME. BUT ALSO, THE ISSUES OF THE DRAINAGE ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE . WE WILL HAVE ISSUES , AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE LENDERS WILL NOT FIX OUR ISSUES.

>> MICHAEL MCDONALD, WINDSWEPT NEIGHBORHOOD. I CAN'T EVEN GET A RESPONSE FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT. SO, IT SEEMS LIKE

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THIS GENTLEMAN IS DEFINITELY DISTURBING THE NATURE OF THINGS . I GUESS WE CAN MAKE CODE ENFORCEMENT AWARENESS TOP OF ACTIONS IN PLACE, THESE PEOPLE ARE TERRIFIED THAT SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN. THEY ARE WATCHING OTHER PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH IT, PER SE . SO, YEAH, IF YOU COULD GET RODRICK ON THAT AND TELL HIM TO START PROCESSING THAT , YOU NEED BETTER LEGISLATION .

BUT THANK YOU FOR KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT.

>> SHERRY BADGER, 20 2072 . JUST TO SAY WELL. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE FINALLY SITTING UP FOR THEMSELVES, AND TO LET ONE OF YOU COMMISSIONERS KNOW THAT ALL TAX MONIES COME FROM TAXPAYERS, REGARDLESS IF YOU TRIED THE FEDERAL, STATE, OR COUNTY. PEOPLE ARE GETTING WISE TO YOU. I HAVE HAD TWO COMMENTS IN THE LAST WEEK. PEOPLE WALK UP TO ME AND ASK ME, WHY IS THE COUNTY COMMISSION RUINING ST. JOHNS COUNTY? GOD BLESS, AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.

>> MY NAME IS BOB. I'M A PRESIDENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS UTILITIES. I JUST WANTED TO HAVE A PLUG FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL. FIRST, THANK YOU TO THE DEAN . THEY WORK WITH US.

I'VE HAD THIS JOB FOR 20 YEARS, AND I ENJOY IT. WE APPRECIATE THE EXPERTISE THAT THE COMMISSIONER HAS HAD HELPING WITH A LOT OF DRAINAGE ISSUES. WELL, WE'VE HAD OUR SHARE, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK DONE. WE HAD A OUTFALL PUT UP ON CORPUS POINT DRIVE A FEW YEARS AGO. THERE IS ANOTHER ONE PENDING. WE HAVE A WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT THAT IS OUT OF YOUR CONTROL. TRY TO GET THINGS APPROVED TO DO THINGS 1000 FEET DOWN ALONG THE WAY. IT'S READY TO GO. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN TRY TO DO TO TRY TO OF THOSE? BUT YOU TELLING ME, YOU KNOW, HERE THEY COME AGAIN. WE MAY HAVE A TOUGH SEASON THIS YEAR. THIS REALLY HELPS US GET THE WATER OFF OF OUR ROADWAYS TO SEE WHAT THE FUTURE PROVIDES FOR WATER PROTECTION AS WELL IN OUR AREA. WE HAVE DONE SOME DITCH DIGGING OUT THERE TO GET THE AREA OUT THERE , BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT IS BEING DONE BY THE COUNTY. WE SAW A LONG WAY TO GO WITH OUR FLOODING PROBLEMS. THANKS AGAIN.

>> HI. HEATHER HARLEY DAVISON . I WILL TALK ABOUT THIS PRIDE .

WE MADE IN OUR REPORT, OUR SISTER DID , WE ARE BEING SUED.

HE IS SUING MY 94-YEAR-OLD MOTHER TO REMOVE AN APARTMENT HE HAS BUILT ON THE PROPERTY LINE. PEOPLE WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MEANS IS WHO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT GOES AFTER. I HAVE BEEN ON THE PHONE WITH HIM DOZENS OF TIMES , AND CODE COMPLIANCE, THEY JUST KEEP ON MOVING IT. WE ARE ALLOWING THE ARM OF GOVERNMENT TO HARASS HANDICAPPED WOMEN , 94-YEAR-OLD WOMEN. I HAVE HAD TO MOVE FROM MY RESIDENCE , AND I EMAILED ALL OF YOU ALL ABOUT THIS VIOLATION. HE HAS TRIED TO SUE MY MOM FOR THE DEFRAYING OF COST FOR $125,000.00 FOR BUILDING AN APARTMENT. I COULD SEE THE TOILET THROUGH THE SLATS OF THE FENCE. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? THEN HE TURNED AROUND, AND WAS BUILDING ANOTHER THING. THESE ARE NOT BEEN PERMITTED. WHAT IS THE BUILDING APARTMENT DOING? WHAT IS CODE ENFORCEMENT DOING ABOUT THIS? THEY JUST KEEP PUTTING IT OFF AND PUTTING IT OFF. AUGUST, 2022. WHEN THE GUY WAS CITED, WHAT DID HE DO? HE DID NOT BACK OFF, HE CONTINUED TO BUILD! ON MY MOM AND DAD'S PROPERTY IN TREASURE BEACH, WHICH WE HAVE OWNED SINCE 1979, THIS GUY HAS BUILT A 15 FOOT WALL 40 FEET

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DOWN THE PROPERTY LINE . EVERY TIME COUNTY COMES OUT , NOTHING IS HAPPENING EXCEPT HARASSMENT. I AM BEING HARASSED. YOU KNOW WHAT? AS A NOW COUNTY CANDIDATE, A CANDIDATE FOR COUNTY COMMISSION , I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD BACK OFF.

THERE ARE LAWS THAT HE HAS BROKEN WITH THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY LICENSING LAW. IF YOU ARE A BUILDER, AND THIS GUY IS DOING BALL KIDS, LET'S GET BACK TO THE CHURCH. WHO HAS GOT THE COMMON DENOMINATOR? START. WHEN HE GOES OVER TO THE BOARD, THE GUY THAT IS SELLING THE DIRT IS THE CHAIR! COME ON, HERE. IT IS NOT FAIR, YOU KNOW? CODE ENFORCEMENT IS USING THE ARM OF GOVERNMENT TO HARASS. THEY ARE NOT COMING AFTER WITH THE ACTUAL VIOLATORS ARE DOING .

>> CAN I PUT THIS ON THE OVERHEAD? JUST A LITTLE NOTICE ONLINE. I CAN ALSO LEAVE IT. HEATHER LANE NEVILLE, AND I JUST WANTED TO COME IN REALLY QUICK BETWEEN MEETINGS MYSELF.

I WANTED TO INVITE YOU ALL NEXT WEDNESDAY. WE WILL BE HAVING A CELEBRATION . I THINK THIS IS A GOOD WOMAN OF DEPARTURE. I KNOW MYSELF, SINCE 2008, HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE C LOOP, WHICH IS A CONTINUOUS EFFORT THAT IS A STATE PRIORITY. THAT WAS RECENTLY FUNDED. YOU HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT THE BENCH ABOUT IT. THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF FUNDING FOR THIS, INCLUDING SOLIDIFYING THE STATE SUN TRAIL. AND THE PEOPLE THAT INSPIRED ME TO GET INVOLVED ARE NOW, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE NOW DECADES INTO THIS PROJECT. I JUST WANTED TO COME IN AND REMIND YOU ALL THAT WE WILL HAVE A CELEBRATION NEXT WEEK ON WEDNESDAY, WHICH PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO COME INTO WEST KING AND UNDERSTAND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THERE. THIS PROJECT IS FAR FROM OVER. THE 250 MILE LOOP, WHICH CANNOT ACCESS THE RIVER TO THE SEA, IS UNDERWAY.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS LEFT TO DO. I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE CONTINUING OF THE COMMUNITY WHO HAS ADVOCATED FOR THIS. THIS IS NOT AN EASY ADVOCATION. I ADMIRE PEOPLE WHO SHOP TO COMMUNITY MEETINGS. THAT IS HOW WE WERE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE OVER A LOT OF ADVERSITY. NOT FOR THE TRAIL, BUT BECAUSE OF FUNDING AND FINANCING TO GET THE FUNDING FEDERALLY. I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THAT HERE WITH YOU GUYS . THIS IS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL THING. I ALSO WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY , ANOTHER SMALL FUN THING, THAT IT IS NATIONAL COMPOST WEEK. AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE COMPOST COMMUNITY FOR, GOSH, FOR A VERY LONG TIME , BUT IN AN OWNERSHIP CAPACITY FOR OVER TWO YEARS, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU ALL TO USE COMPOST, IT IS A GREAT WAY TO SEQUESTER CARBON. EVERY GREAT FACILITY HERE IN SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY THAT HELPS REDUCE CARBON. SO, IT IS A GREAT RESOURCE, AND IS AVAILABLE FOR SALE AT A LOT OF LOCAL BUSINESSES. THIS WILL NOT ONLY PROTECT OUR WATERWAYS, BUT ALSO REDUCE GARBAGE , REDUCE OTHER ISSUES, AND SUPPORT LOCALS. THAT IS ALL I WANTED TO SAY, AND HAVE A GREAT REST OF YOUR DAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. MR. HUNT, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, IF YOU SPEAK AT THIS PUBLIC COMMENT , THIS IS YOUR ONE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. AT THE END, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK AGAIN.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME. CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATE. I HAVE SHOT A LOT OF EMAILS TO YOU ALL THAT IS BEEN COMING UP WITH THE ESTATE. WE HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNED RESIDENTS OF THAT HOLE IN THE WALL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT PEOPLE CAN'T WAIT TO GET IN, RIGHT AROUND, DRIVE AROUND , WALK AROUND. BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING, AS I STATED IN EMAILS , THE RESIDENT PROPERTY WAS SOLD, AND IT IS GOING TO THE PROCESS OF REZONING . WHAT IT WAS WAS WHEN THAT WAS

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ESTABLISHED IN 1980, YES, WE FELL UP UNDER THE INTENSE FIVE ACRE DWELLING. OKAY? AND THEN, THERE WERE RESIDENTS WHO LIVED THERE AS SOON AS THAT PLACE WAS PUT IN. RIGHT? MOVE UP TO ABOUT 2019, 2020 ONE OTHER ISSUES EMERGED OUT OF THEIR OF ONE PLOT ZONING FOR A ONE ACRE DEVELOPMENT OR A1 ACRE HOUSE , OKAY? A PRODUCT THE LINE THAT YES , IN THE YEAR 2000 , PLANS CHANGED , AND IT ERASED AND ERADICATED THE FIVE ACRE RULING TO BE DONE TO MOVE US. OKAY? SO, THOSE FIVE ACRES WERE MOVED OUT, AND NOW, IT IS ONE ACRE. AND WE FELL IS. A LOT OF ISSUES WERE BROUGHT UP , AND WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT OUT , THE RESIDENCE AND ALL OF US KNEW ABOUT IT. VERY OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS, VERY OPEN-ENDED ANSWERS. LIKE I SAID, IT IS GING TO COME UP THREE WALL FOR A BTC, AND I GOT LOOKING THROUGH THE 2025 COMP PLAN, AND IT SAYS IN POLICY 1122 , WITH CHAPTER 163 , FOR THE STATE STATUTES , ST. JOHN'S COUNTY SHALL GIVE OUT A QUICK PUBLIC NOTICE TO LANDOWNERS OF ANY APPLICATION TO CHANGE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS AND DESIGNATION REZONING CATEGORIES OF THEIR LAND. OKAY? THAT WAS IN 2025. CAN I FIND THE ONE THAT IF IT WAS CHANGED 20 YEARS AGO? THAT IS WHAT I AM

LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. THIS'LL BE THE

LAST SPEAKER. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

COUNTY COMMISSIONER DISTRICT 1 CANDIDATE, ROBERTS WROTE. THE CONSTITUTIONAL IS EVERYONE TO EXPECT OR COPY ANY PUBLIC RECORD YOU RECEIVED IN CONNECTION TO THE OFFICIAL BUSINESS OF ANY PUBLIC BODY, OFFICER, OR EMPLOYEE OR PERSONS ACTING ON THEIR BEHALF. OPEN PUBLIC RECORDS A LOW FOR THE CITIZENS TO DISCOVER THE ACTIONS OF OUR GOVERNMENT.

TODAY, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT A CASE INVOLVING PUBLIC RECORDS AND TRANSPARENCY. TO BEGIN, THE FORTIS IT IS AND REQUESTED RECORDS. THE COUNTY RESPONDED. AFTER AN ACCIDENT WITH THE COUNTY AT THE REQUESTER , THE REQUESTS ARE FEELING LIKE THEY DID NOT RECEIVE ALL OF THE RECORDS TO WHICH THEY WERE TITLED, AND FILED A LAWSUIT. THROUGH ANOTHER LEGAL ACTION , IT BECAME APPARENT THAT THE COUNTY HAD NOT PROVIDED ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT THE REQUESTER WAS ENTITLED TO . OVER 300 AT LEAST. BEFORE THAT OTHER ACTION, THE REQUESTER MAY NOT HAVE NEVER KNOWN THAT THEY WOULD BE PROVIDED WITH THE RECORDS THEY WERE ENTITLED TO.

THE COUNTY RETAINED OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL FROM TALLAHASSEE TO HANDLE THIS LAWSUIT. THE CASE WENT TO MEDIATION LAST FALL. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY RECOMMENDED A SEDIMENT REMEDIATION OF $45,000.00 TO AVOID PUBLIC RISK AND PUBLIC EXPENSE. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH WAS A LOAN COMMISSIONER TO AGREE TO TAKE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S ADVICE. THE REMAINING COMMISSIONERS CHOSE NOT TO . AT A PUBLIC HEARING JUST AS THIS, COMMISSIONER WHITEHEAD REFERRED TO DECEPTIVE TACTICS . THE COUNTY ATTORNEY EITHER QUIT OR WAS TERMINATED.

THAT WAS NEVER MADE PUBLIC TO US, BUT AT ANY RATE, HE IS NO LONGER WITH THE COUNTY, WHICH TAKES US TO NOW. THE CASE WAS HEARD, AND THE JUDGE DID FIND THAT THE COUNTY FAILED TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO PUBLIC RECORDS. THE COUNTY'S ATTORNEY FEES AT THIS POINT ARE AT LEAST $190,000.00. THE PREVAILING PARTY, MEANING THE WINNING PARTY, ADDRESSING FEES AND COSTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $632,549.00. WE, THE PEOPLE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, WILL BE PAYING NEARLY DOUBLE THE AMOUNT THE COUNTY COULD HAVE SETTLED FOR HAD THEY TAKEN THEIR OWN ATTORNEY'S ADVICE. THAT IS IF NO ATTORNE FEES ARE AWARDED TO

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THE PREVAILING PARTY , WHICH IS EXCEPTIONALLY UNLIKELY.

ADDITIONALLY , THE PREVAILING PARTY APPEAL PART OF THE COURT'S PREVIOUS RULING, MEANING THIS CASE IS NOT OVER.

SO, TODAY, AS THE COMMISSIONERS WHO VOTED TO NOT TAKE THEIR OWN ATTORNEY'S ADVICE, TO PROVDE AN EXPIRATION FOR YOUR DECISION

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, AND SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS WHAT YOU MEANT BY DECEPTIVE TACTICS AND SLIPPERY SLOPE. I DO HAVE A CHARTER. WHICH SHOWS WE COULD HAVE SETTLED FOR AT LITIGATION , WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN $45,000.00 PLUS OUR OWN ATTORNEY FEES . THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. I CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. THAT BRINGS US INTO ITEMS NUMBER THREE AND FOUR. QUASIJUDICIAL. COMMISSIONER

JOSEPH? >> NO MEETINGS, BUT I RECEIVED SEVEN EMAILS IN FAVOR, AND 101 EMAILS AGAINST . I SPOKE TO CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE OPPOSED BY PHONE.

>> OKAY. COMMISSIONER? >> I HAD A MEETING WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE CHAMBER OF THE QUARTER. WE DISCUSSED THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I HAD AN INTRODUCTORY MEETING FROM CONTEST AND ARCHER , THOMAS WILLIAMS AND STAFF FOR AN OPENING INTRODUCTION OF THE PROJECT. WE DISCUSSED TRAFFIC , AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE HAVING. I ONCE AGAIN HAD A FOLLOWING MEETING FOR ANY LAST MINUTE QUESTIONS . I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH FOLKS . JUST GENERALLY TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH BETH TATE TO GET THE OFFICIAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE POSITION, AND I TALKED WITH JUDY SPIEGEL AS WELL. WE HAD A CONVERSATION TO DISCUSS HER VOTE ON THE PCA , AND HER POSITION NOW. OF COURSE, I RECEIVED SEVERAL EMAILS . I AM SURE YOU ALL HAVE , AND THIS IS

FOR CONSTITUENTS. >> THANK YOU. I, MYSELF, HAD A VERY LARGE COMMUNITY MEETING AT THE COMMUNITY FAIR WITH STAFF.

I ALSO HAD MEETINGS WITH THOMAS WILLIAMS AND STAFF. I MET WITH BOB PORTER AND STAFF IN THE CHAMBER. I HAD A MEETING WITH CONSTITUENTS , SOPHIE DURAN WILDER. MANY PHONE CALLS, MANY CONVERSATION WITH CONSTITUENTS. THIS IS A VERY HOT TOPIC OF CONVERSATION. WE JUST GUESS EVERYTHING FROM THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, THE SCHOOL CAPACITY , AND JUST GENERALLY, THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.

>> MADAM CHAIR , AS YOU BOTH KNOW, MANY PEOPLE HERE AT THE OFFICE , JONATHAN RODRIGUEZ , OUR STAFF HERE , SOME OF WHICH WERE IN FAVOR OF AN MOST OF WHICH WERE OPPOSED TO . DURING EACH OF THE EMAIL MEETINGS , WE DISCUSSED THE IMPACT OF TRAFFIC , THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR OUR CENTRAL WORKFORCE , AND THE HISTORY OF THE SITE LOCATION.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> I HAD A MEETING WITH TOM INGRAM , TOM WILLIAMS, AND STAFF TO DISCUSS ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE EVEN MENTIONED. I HAD A MEETING WITH BOB PORTER AND STUFF TOO, AGAIN, DISCUSS THE ELEMENTS OF THIS PROJECT, AND THE ASSOCIATED HOUSING. THERE WERE NEED TO GO THROUGH ONE.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN. THAT INCLUDES OUR CAUSE

EYE. MR. INGRAM? >> TOM INGRAM, SAN MARCO BOULEVARD . I AM HERE ARE PRESENTED THE APPLICANT. WE WILL HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE COME UP FOR A PRESENTATION , BUT I DID WANT TO GO OVER A BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING. YEAH STAFF REPORTS ON THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN ON THE REZONING JUST TO BE DIRECT THAT BOTH STAFF REPORTS IN THE BACK OF MATERIALS SHOULD BE APPLIED TO BOTH APPLICATIONS. FOR EXAMPLE,

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THERE IS A STATEMENT OF NEED THAT WAS SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT FOR BOTH AND THE LAND-USE APPLICATION. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT AS WE HAD PROPOSED A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO THE REZONING , WHICH RELATES TO A COMMITMENT BY THE APPLICANT TO CONSTRUCT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS , AND HAVE THOSE COMPLETED BEFORE THE FIRST ISSUANCE OF THE FIRST EVIDENCE OF OCCUPANCY. I JUST WANTED TO SAY FOR THE RECORD THAT THAT IS PART OF OUR APPLICATION THAT WE ARE OFFERING TODAY. I WANT TO INTRODUCE CONTEST ARCHER. SHE WILL LATER BE FOLLOWED BY BILL SCHILLING , AND THEN HE WILL

COME BACK. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANKS, TOM. MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR PROPOSED COMMUNITY APPLICATION NUMBER PUD TO THIS, I GUESS IT IS AFTERNOON NOW, BUT MY NOTES A MORNING. MY NAME IS CONTEST ARCHER. I WORK WITH THE NATIONAL WORKFORCE HOUSING DEVELOPER, OWNER, AND MANAGER.

WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP A MUCH-NEEDED AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE OUR MISSION IN THE COUNTY. WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT HOW THIS IS IN THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND HAVE HAD QUESTIONS LIKE , WHY CAN'T WE FIND A DIFFERENT LOCATION FOR THIS PROJECT? TO HELP LEVEL SET, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND A BIT OF TIMEX WHEN HE WHY WE PICKED THIS LOCATION. LIKE ANY BUSINESS, LIKE PICKING A SITE, OR NUMBER ONE CONCERN IS WHETHER WE CAN PROVIDE A SUPERIOR PRODUCT TO OUR CUSTOMER THEN AVAILABLE PROJECT IN THE AREA. THE SITE EASILY CHECKS THAT BOX, BECAUSE THERE IS NO EXISTING HOUSING THAT IS AFFORDABLE TO THE WORKFORCE IN NORTHWEST ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE WILL OUTLINE THE EXACT NUMBERS LATER IN THIS PRESENTATION , BUT CURRENTLY, ESSENTIAL WORKERS CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTY. OUR COMMUNITY WILL FILL THAT NEED FOR ALMOST 300 FAMILIES. AFTER DETERMINING THE DEMAND FOR OUR PRODUCT, WE DETERMINE WHETHER THE SPECIFIC SITE SERVICE LOCATION REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR RESIDENTS WITH APPROXIMATE ACCESS TO JOBS THAT SPECTACLE FIND JOBS AND SCHOOLS TO SUPPORT OUR FAMILIES. AGAIN, THE SITE CHECKS THAT BOX. NOT ONLY ARE THERE ALREADY WORKERS WHO COMMUTE INTO THIS PART OF THE COUNTY EVERY DAY TO WORK IN CLINICS, AREA SCHOOLS CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE THERE, BUT IN TWO TO FIVE OUNCES OF THE SITES, THERE IS COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND INDUSTRIAL SPACES, AS WELL AS UPCOMING COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL JOBS. THAT MEANS THERE ARE MORE BUSINESSES NEEDING MORE WORKERS COMING TO NORTHWEST ST. JOHNS COUNTY . AT THE MOMENT DOWN THE STREET ON STATE ROUTE 16 LOAN, 40% OF THEIR WORKERS COMMUTE IN FROM SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY. THE THIRD REASON IS THAT , WITHIN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, A SCHOOL BECOMING ONLINE ACROSS THE STREET JUST DOWN COUNTY ROAD 16 A FROM THE SITE.

THOSE SCHOOLS WILL NEED TEACHERS AND STAFF TO OPERATE.

WHERE WILL THOSE TEACHERS AND AIDES LEARNING ENTRY-LEVEL SALARIES LIVE NEAR THEIR WORKPLACE? THE FINAL REASON IS THAT WITH THE NORTHWEST ST. JOHNS COUNTY ALONE, ALMOST 6000 HOUSEHOLDS NEED HOUSING THAT IS AFFORDABLE TO THEIR INCOME. WE WILL ALSO OUTLINE THAT ANALYSIS LATER. BUT THOSE 6000 FAMILIES WHO ARE PAYING MORE THAN THEY CAN CURRENTLY AFFORD FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE HAVE HEARD A RESPONSE , WHY CAN'T WE JUST MOVED TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION? WELL, FINDING NEW SITES IS EASIER SAID THAN DONE. FREE MARKETS DICTATE THE PRICE OF LAND. IN A COUNTY LIKE THIS ONE, THE RISING COST OF HOUSING NEEDS LAND PRICES ARE ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO MARKET RATE DEVELOPERS. ONE AFFORDABLE DEVELOPERS LIKE US CAN FIND A LAND SELLER WHO SEES THE NEED FOR THIS KIND OF HOUSING , ACCEPT OUR OFFER, AND IS WILLING TO WORK WITH US TO THE CHALLENGES OF THIS PROCESS, IT IS A RARE OPPORTUNITY. THERE ARE ONE IN 1 MILLION CHANCES FOR US TO BRING HOUSING THAT IS AFFORDABLE TO COUNTIES WORKER IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE EVERY PROPOSAL EASY BEFORE YOU IS TO TURN LAND INTO MORE ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND COMMERCIAL USES. AS WE GO THROUGH OUR PRESENTATION, I HOPE TO OUTLINE WHY THE SITE IS PERFECT FOR THIS TYPE OF HOUSING, AND SORELY NEEDED IN THE COUNTY, AND I ASK YOU TO DETERMINE WHAT IS THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND WHO GETS TO DECIDE THAT. SHOULD ESSENTIAL WORKERS TRY TO MAKE A LIVING FOR ECONOMIC ABILITY HAVE TO LIVE TOGETHER , CONCENTRATED ONE PART OF THE COUNTY TO RECEIVE

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RENTS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE? SHOULD THOSE WHO FILL THE JOBS MANY WOULD NOT DESIRE TO FILL NOT GET A CHANCE FOR ECONOMIC MOBILITY OF THEIR CHILDREN BECAUSE THE MARKET DICTATES A LOWER SALARY FOR THE PROFESSION? IS THE SIMPLE ACT OF SOMEONE OPPOSING A PROPOSAL MAKE THAT NOT PROVIDING THE LOCATION, THEN IN OUR EXPERIENCE , WHICH WE HAVE PLENTY , YOU WILL NEVER FIND THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE HEAR THIS OFTEN, AND WE USUALLY FIND THAT THERE AREN'T MANY RIGHT LOCATIONS FOR THOSE WHO OPPOSE IT. DETERMINE YOUR FAMILIAR WITH CAPTURES THE SENTIMENT PERFECTLY. WE DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, JUST NOT HERE. NOT IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS.

COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR THE FAMILIES AND WORKERS WHO NEED THIS HOUSING. IT PROVIDES ACCESS TO JOBS, THE SCHOOLS, AND OTHER IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE HARD-WORKING ESSENTIAL WORKERS THAT THIS COUNTY NEEDS , ALTHOUGH FOLLOWING THE INTENT OF THE EXISTING COPY OF THE PLAN AND AREA COMPATIBILITY. I HOPE THIS OUT THROUGHOUT THIS PRESENTATION TO PROVE THAT TO YOU. SO, TO SOME QUICK BACKGROUND INFORMATION BEFORE IT BEGAN. LONG-TERM DEVELOPERS , OWNERS, AND OPERATORS OF WORKFORCE HOUSING, WE HAVE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS FOR OVER 50 YEARS. AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING IS OUR SPECIALTY , AND WE ARE PROUD EVERY DAY TO ADD TO THE SUPPLY OF WORKFORCE HOUSING AND GROWING COMMUNITIES LIKE ST. JOHNS COUNTY. OUR PROPOSAL TODAY IS FOR 280 UNITS ON 19 POINT TO ACRES. WHICH WE ARE PROPOSING ROUGHLY 15 UNITS PER NET ACRE. THE SITE IS LOCATED JUST OFF OF THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD ECKSTEIN A . THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL BE SURROUNDED BY SOME OF OUR ZONING AND APPROPRIATE TRANSITIONAL LAND USES, WITH THE NEWLY BUILT LARGE U-HAUL STORAGE FACILITY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO OUR SITE. WE ARE PROPOSING AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING COMMUNITY WITH THREE STORY WALK-UP, GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS WITH AMENITIES IN UNITS, AND A COMMUNITY TO SERVE FAMILIES. THE CURRENT ZONING FOR IS ZONED OPEN ROLE, AND WE WERE PRESSING APPROVAL TODAY TO TAKE THE ZONING DESIGNATION TO INDUCE DEVELOPMENT FOR 288 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES. THE FUTURE LAND USE REQUEST FOR THE SITE IS TO TRANSITION FROM AN AGRICULTURAL INTENSIVE USE TOWARDS RESIDENTIAL FEES. WE ARE NOT CAUSING ANY VARIANCES OR EXCEPTIONS FOR THE COUNTY FOR SETBACKS, PARKING REQUIREMENTS, BUILDING HEIGHT IMPACT FEES , OR OTHER REQUIREMENTS. AS PREVIOUS MENTION, ALL 288 UNITS WILL BE AFFORDABLE TO ALL RESIDENTS AT 60% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME, AND THAT LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY MEANS THE DEFINITION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE 40 STATUTES. I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FURTHER DEFINE THE AFFORDABILITY THAT WE WILL PROVIDE RESIDENTS. THIS WOULD BE INCOME AND RENT RESTRICTED, WHICH MEANS FUTURE RESIDENCE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE ANNUAL EARNINGS AT OR BELOW THE INCOME LIMIT SET BY THE STATE HOUSING AGENCY RELATIVE TO THEIR HOUSEHOLD SIZE. DOMINION DOES NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER THESE RENTS WE CHARGE EACH YEAR , AND THE RENTS ARE SET BASED ON THE INCOME BASED ON THE SLIDE.

RENTS LIMITS ARE CREATED EACH YEAR , MONITORED BY THE STATE HOUSING AGENCY, AND ARE BASED ENTIRELY ON AREA MEDIAN INCOME OF THE COUNTY WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS LOCATED. AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE, RESIDENCE THAT WOULD BE QUALIFIED CAN PAY BETWEEN 1180 215 11 DEPENDING ON THE UNIT SIZE. IN MANY DISCUSSION THAT THE COMMISSION HAS HAD OVER THE PAST YEAR , YOU HAVE IT IN A FIGHT THE GROWING NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE COUNTY. YOU HAVE ASKED FOR MORE UNITS AND DEEPER AFFORDABILITY LEVELS FOR PROPOSALS THAT CAME BEFORE YOU TO PROVIDE HOUSING UNDER THE WORKFORCE HOUSING AFFORDABLE LEVELS. WE WOULD BRING THAT LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY TO THE COUNTY'S WORKFORCE. IT WILL BRING 288 UNITS, ALL AT 68 PERCENT AMI , TO SUPPORT WORKERS, AND WILL REMAIN AFFORDABLE FOR AT LEAST 30 YEARS. MOVING QUICKLY INTO THE SITE PLAN, THIS PROVIDES AN UP-CLOSE LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF ITEMS. THE FIRST IS OF THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT OF THIS COMMUNITY WILL BE ON COUNTY ROAD 16 A . THIS IS THE ONLY ENTRANCE AND EXIT RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO USE THE ACCESS FOR FOR THE COMMITTEE. THERE IS NO EMERGENCY ACCESS THE SEASON TO STATE ROUTE 16. AGAIN, IT IS ONLY AN EMERGENCY ACCESS , SO I CAN ONLY BE USED IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY. THE OTHER ITEM TO NOTE HERE ARE THE BUFFERS

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ACROSS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY , AND THE SETBACKS OF THE BUILDINGS. NOW THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSAL ITSELF, AS TOM SHARED, I WILL FEELING,, WHO IS OUR PROTECTIVE TRAFFIC ENGINEER , WHO WILL PRESENT OUR PROPOSED TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, THEN WE WILL HEAR FROM MARK, WILL SPEAK ABOUT LAND-USE AND COMPATIBILITY. FINALLY, I WILL RETURN TO GIVE A DEEPER LOOK AT THE NEED FOR HOUSING DIVERSITY AND AFFORDABILITY IN THE JOHNSON COUNTY. WITH THAT, I

WILL TURN IT OVER TO BILL. >> IT AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS , AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING THIS ITEM TODAY. MY NAME IS BILL SCHILLING. MY ADDRESS IS 12 740 , SUITE 2350 IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, THREE 2256. I AM A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER LICENSE , AND I SPENT ROUGHLY 25 YEARS ENTRANCE PERTAINING PLANNING WORK HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I'M EXCITED SURE WHAT WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS PROJECT, AND FROM THE TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, BECAUSE MY TEAM APPEARS ARE PRESENTING TO MANY AM FOR THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS FOR THE PROJECT. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT ON A MITIGATION PLAN, WHICH I AM VERY EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU, BECAUSE GET A MITIGATION PLAN FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT. QUICKLY, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THE COUNTY IS A CONCURRENCY MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE CALLED THE LEVEL OF THE LAND DEVELOPING CODE THAT REQUIRES THE EVALUATION OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT FROM A NEW PROJECT. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE HAVE COMPLETED THE CONCURRENCY EVALUATION , AND WHAT WE HAVE DETERMINED AND WHAT IS SHOWN ON THE SLIDE THAT THERE ARE SEVEN ROADWAY SEGMENTS WITHIN OUR STUDY AREA THAT WE IMPACT. WE HAVE WHAT IS REFERENCED AS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT AS DEFINED IN THE DEVELOPING CODE , AND THOSE SEVEN SEGMENTS ARE ALSO ADVERSELY IMPACT. THAT MEANS THAT YOU ARE ALREADY TODAY OR IN THE FUTURE, THOSE ARE ALREADY IN OR OVERCAPACITY.

BECAUSE OF THAT, THE SEVEN ROADWAY SEGMENTS REQUIRE US TO MITIGATE OUR TRIPS THAT WE HAD TO THOSE SEGMENTS , AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED. SO, THIS IS A QUICK SUMMARY OF WHAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF ON. WE ESSENTIALLY STANDS TODAY . AGAIN, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE , THERE IS AN ADOPTED FORMULA THAT THE COUNTY HAS APPROVED TO CALCULATE THE MITIGATION OF A PROJECT IMPACT . WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS , AND STAFF HAS REVIEWED OUR CALCULATIONS . THEY HAVE, IN FACT, ASSISTED IN THE CALCULATIONS. THEY ARE DUE FOR OUR TRAFFIC IMPACTS FOR THAT.

ONE THING I DID WANT TO TAKE A SECOND TO POINT OUT IS, IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT REFERENCES ROUGHLY 4 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS ZERO PROPORTION AMOUNT . THE REASON THE NUMBER IS DIFFERENT ON THE SLIDE IS THE D.O.T. HAS UPDATED ITS COSTS DUE TO THE INCREASE IN CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL COST. SO, THIS $5,500,000.00 NUMBER REFLECTS THAT NEW UPDATED COST USING THE MOST CURRENT D.O.T. NUMBERS . I DON'T CERTAINLY WANT TO PUT WORDS IN COUNTY STAFF SMELLS , BUT THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH WORKING WITH US . I BELIEVE THAT THEY CONCUR WITH THIS NUMBER. SO, A COUPLE OF THINGS TO POINT OUT. AT $5,500,000.00 , OR ROUGHLY, THEY ARE 288 UNITS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A REALLY LITIGATION COST OF A LITTLE OVER $19,000.00. IN PEAK HOUR TRIP COST , THIS PROJECT IS ESTIMATED TO GENERATE 112 TRIPS . WE ARE LOOKING AT A PROP SURE MINIMUM REQUIRED COST THE LITTLE LITTLE OVER $49,000.00 , WHICH IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER. IN COMPARISON RIGHT NOW, THE COUNTY ROAD IMPACT FEES , THEY ARE VERY MUCH BASED ON SIZE OF UNITS. YOU APPROXIMATELY HAVE $1000.00 PER

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UNIT. YOU CAN SEE WHAT YOU ARE PAYING AND THIS PROJECT IS PROPOSING TO PAY A VERY SIGNIFICANT MITIGATION NUMBER THAT IS WILL BE ON WITH THE ROAD IMPACT FEE NUMBER IS THAT WILL BE DUE. SO THAT IS WHAT IS REQUIRED PER THE $5,500,000.00 IS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT THROUGH USING THE SHARED CALCULATIONS . THE PART THAT IS EXCITING HERE IS TO MINIUM IS PROPOSING IMPROVEMENTS , AND I WILL WALK THROUGH THOSE ARE.

BUT THE PROPOSED MITIGATION AROUND IMPROVEMENT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD. SO, THIS IS NOT A CONTRIBUTION TO THE COUNTY. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD A $7,100,000.00. THAT'S A LITTLE OVER 63,000 , AND I WILL SHARE , IN MY TIME AT ST.

JOHNS COUNTY , THIS IS NOT THE MOST EXPENSIVE LITIGATION FOR A TRIP BASIS. IT IS CLOSE TO ONE OF THE LARGEST MITIGATION PACKETS , SO IS VERY IMPRESSIVE. A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS HERE, THAT I WILL GET INTO THE MITIGATION PACKET. I KNOW THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT IT EARLIER TODAY ON SOME ITEMS THAT I THINK ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT. THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PLANNED, AND SOME ARE EVEN FUNDED FOR THE NORTHWEST SECTOR.

BUT, DOMINION WAS PROPOSING CONSTRUCTION ON A SECOND WESTBOUND LEFT TURN LANE FROM STATE ROUTE 16 ONTO STATE ROUTE 16. DOMINION WAS PROPOSING A SECOND THROUGH LANE OF BASICALLY WESTBOUND . THE IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED A SOUTH BOUND THREE LANE, AND THEN A SECOND -- SORRY, THIS IS SOUTH BOUND. I'M GETTING THINGS MIXED UP NOW. A SECOND SOUTH BOUND RECEIVING LANE THAT WILL COME TO ABOUT HERE . AS WELL THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES CATEGORY 16 A BACK TO THE ENTRANCE APPROXIMATELY OF THE PROJECT. I GOT A COUPLE OF SLIDES ARE RE-HAVE ZOOMED IN A LITTLE BIT YOU CAN JUST GET A BETTER SCALE. ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS 16 A AT THE ENTRANCE . WE ARE ADDING THE SECOND LANE EASTBOUND HERE , AND THEN EMERGING THE LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE PROJECT. THIS SHOWS

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LANDING FROM THE INTERSECTION. THAT GOES UP TOWARDS THE PROJECT ENTRANCE. THIS SHOWS THE SECOND SOUTH BOUND THROUGH LANE AND SILVERLEAF PARKWAY VERSUS TODAY. THIS SHOWS A COMPARISON OF TODAY VERSUS WHAT OPPOSED WITH A SECOND THROUGH LANE. IN THIS ESTATE ROAD 16 , WERE TODAY IS ONE RECEIVING LANE , AND THEN WE WILL BE ADDING A SECOND RECEIPT . THAT IS A BRIEF SUMMARY , AS WELL AS LIMITATION TO THE SIGNAL WITH A PERMIT THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. I WILL TALK THROUGH ALL OF THOSE, BUT I DID WANT TO PUT UP THE WRITTEN DESCRIPTION JUST FOR THE RECORD. OKAY, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT I THINK IS A TRUE BENEFIT TO THIS PROJECT SINCE IS A STATE ROAD, WE ARE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS FOR THE D.O.T., WHICH IS TYPICALLY A FIVE TO SIX MONTH PROCESS. WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED THE PROCESS. THE IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE THAT IS NOT COMING OUT WITH THE BASE ANALYSIS . SO, WE ARE FIVE TO SIX MONTHS AHEAD OF WHERE A TYPICAL PROJECT MAYBE AT THIS. THE D.O.T. HAS ALREADY APPROVED THIS INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PLAN . IT IS BEEN STATED, BUT I WANT TO STATE IT AGAIN . I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE IT ON THE NEXT SLIDE, BUT WE ARE COMMITTING TO A CONDITION THAT REQUIRES ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT I HAVE SHOWN TODAY WILL BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE FIRST RESIDENT COMES IN. THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK SHOWS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS IMPROVEMENT IS NOT ONLY DO THESE IMPROVEMENTS IMPROVE THE INTERSECTION OF THIS AREA FOR THE 112 PEAK OUR TRIPS THAT WE ARE AT , BUT THESE INCREMENTS ARE SO SIGNIFICANT, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ESTIMATING THAT ONCE COMPLETED , ON AVERAGE, NEARLY 25 SECONDS WILL PULL THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION. IN THE AFTERNOON PEAK HOURS. SO, NOT ONLY DO THESE IMPROVEMENTS ACCOMMODATE THE 12 TRIPS THAT WERE ADDED , BUT THEY PROVIDE SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS TO THOSE WHO ARE ALREADY USING THE INTERSECTION. COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS THE CONDITION THAT HAS BEEN ADDED THAT BASICALLY STATES THAT PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE CO FOR THE RESIDENTIAL UNIT THAT THESE AGREEMENTS WILL BE COMPLETED.

SO, I JUST WANT TO ENSURE EVERYONE THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF AND EVERYONE ELSE WANTED US TO COMMIT TO, AND WE ARE HAPPY TO COMMIT THAT AND HAVE COMMITTED TO THAT. AND THEN FINALLY, JUST AS FAR AS SCHEDULE, WE ARE PLANNING FOR THE USE TO BE COMPLETED . I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

IS EVERYTHING WANTED TO PRESENT ON TRAFFIC. I WILL TEAM WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY TRAFFIC QUESTIONS. AT THIS POINT , I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THIS PRESENTATION OVER TO MICHELLE.

MARK IS ONE OF MY BUSINESS PARTNERS. HE IS A CERTIFIED PLANNER , AND HAS OVER 25 YEARS EXPERIENCE HERE. SO, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MARK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. >> I'M A LITTLE TALLER THAN BILL, 22 RAISES UP A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON. I HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND PRIVILEGE TO

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SPEAK ON THE LAND-USE PROJECT. TO BEGIN, THE PLAN WAS WRITTEN WITH THE INTENT OF HOUSING. IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT, INDIRECTLY ENCOURAGES MORE HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY . THAT SAME ELEMENT DIRECTLY ADDRESSES THE ISSUE TO ISOLATE THIS HOUSING. THIS ENCOURAGES RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES. FURTHER, AND ENCOURAGES A MIX OF HOUSING TO INCLUDE AFFORDABILITY , AND AGAIN MENTIONS NOT TO ISOLATE CONCENTRATED AFFORDABLE HOUSING DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. NOT ONLY IS THIS HOUSING ENCOURAGED, BUT IT IS ALSO IDEAL FOR THIS AREA. THIS USE WILL PROVIDE A MISSING HOUSING TITLE IN THIS AREA AS ITS -- I AM SORRY. IS IT ALREADY HAS. CONDOMINIUMS, COACH HOUSES , TOWNHOUSES, PROPOSED TOWNHOUSES, AND PERMITS. AS WELL AS SINGLE-FAMILY. THE IDEAL LOCATION TO SERVE THE WORKFORCE FOR THREE COMMERCIAL NOTES , IF THE SUBJECT SITE , WHATABURGER, AND OTHER USES HAVE ON THE I-95 NODE . HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A COUPLE OF RENTAL UNITS. MY APOLOGIES. AS CONTESSA MENTIONED , THERE ARE USES SUCH AS TURNER HOME FURNISHINGS, ACE HARDWARE , DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO U-HAUL, THE LITERARY HOSPITAL, AS WELL AS THE BAPTIST CHURCH, AND CATHOLIC CHURCH , AND A PROPOSED SCHOOL IN SILVERLEAF.

THIS IS A CLOSE-UP AERIAL AND ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES I ALREADY SPOKE ABOUT. ON THE RIGHT, YOU SEE THE EXISTING U-HAUL AS WELL AS A BUFFER TO THE NORTH. THE AUTHORS OF THE ORIGINAL COMP PLAN KNEW THE COMPATIBILITY WOULD BE AN ISSUE. THAT IS WHY THEY DO NOT ADDRESS THIS ISSUE . THIS IS A DIRECT ATTEMPT TO MAKE THIS LESS OF AN ISSUE. ONE OF THE THINGS POINTED OUT THAT THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS AS A RESIDENTIAL AREA QUALIFIERS. IT EXISTS WITHOUT NEGATIVE IMPACT.

FLORIDA STATUTES HAS THESE EXACT SAME DEFINITION IN THEIR CODE. AND I ASSURE YOU THAT THIS CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT A NEGATIVE IMPACT. FURTHER, THE LEAD VELTMAN CODE USES PD AND TECHNIQUES FOR GRADUAL AND TECHNICIAN DENSITIES FOR HEIGHT AND MORE. LASTLY, THE COMP PLAN ENCOURAGES THE VELTMAN IN THE AREAS THAT ARE CONTINUOUS TO A LITTLE IN AREAS, SUCH AS ONE IN THE THICK RED LINE , AND OF THE PUBLIC FACILITIES TO SERVE.

THIS PROJECT MEETS THESE CRITERIA. IN SUMMARY, THIS USE IS MISSING IN THE AREA. IF NECESSARY TO THIS LOCATION. IT IS ENCOURAGED BY THE COMP PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPING CODE.

IT IS SO IMPORTANT AND NECESSARY THAT 40% OF YOUR HOUSING DEVELOPING, THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IS DEDICATED TO THIS ISSUE. IT IS NOT THE SAME AS OF THE RESIDENTIAL LOCATIONS IN THIS COMMITTEE. THAT IS WHY IS THAT YOU NEED COMPONENT.

WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT BACK TO CONTEST IT. THANK YOU FOR

YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

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>> THANKS, MARK. I AM SURE NO ONE IN THIS ROOM WITH HIS AGREE WITH THE STATEMENT THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS GROWING. THE GRAPH YOU SEE SHOWS THE YOUR OF YOUR PERCENTAGE CHANGE IN GROWTH FOR FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS. THE YELLOW LINE REPRESENTS THE UNITED STATES, THE GRAY LINE REPRESENTS FLORIDA, AND THE BLUE LINE REPRESENTS THE SPECIFIC CENSUS TRACT IN WHICH YOUR SITE IS LOCATED. ESSENTIALLY, WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IS THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE OF GROWTH WITH THE LARGEST FEW IN THE COUNTRY DOWN TO THE SMALLEST CENSUS BE RIGHT AROUND YOUR STATE. THE REASON I AM BEGINNING WITH POPULATION GROWTH BECAUSE GROWTH IS INTRINSICALLY TIED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SPECIFIC CENSUS TRACT WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED IS ENORMOUS GROWTH COMPARED TO THE COUNTY ITSELF. THE GIRLS BEGAN DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC IN THE 2022 2022 WINDOW WHERE THE USER TO SEE THE ACTUAL GROWTH.

THERE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT GROWTH OF HOUSING DEVELOPERS, BUT IF THERE IS A LIMITED NUMBER. HOUSING IS A STUDY OF THE PLAN DEMAND. ANYTIME POPULATION GROWTH GROSSES SIGNIFICANTLY, HOUSING PROCESSES DRASTICALLY. THE SUPPLY OF HOUSING OF ALL TYPES CANNOT KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE IN THIS ROOM, AGAIN, WITH HIS AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT THAT RENTAL HOME PRICES IN THIS COUNTY, SPECIFICALLY NORTHWEST ST. JOHNS COUNTY, HAVE GROWN ACCIDENTALLY. SO, WHERE IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CURRENTLY LOCATED? THE MAP ON THE SITE EARLIER PRESENTS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SUPPLIES IS CURRENTLY SERVICED WITH EXISTS WITHIN THE COUNTY. WAS A PORTLY, IT SHOWS YOU WHERE THAT LOT HOUSING IS LOCATED. AS YOU CAN SEE, PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE HOUSING THAT YOU SEE ON THIS MAP IS CLUSTERED AROUND SAINT AUGUSTINE AND SOUTH ST. JOHNS COUNTY AREA. THE OTHER FORMAL HOUSING COMMUNITY THAT YOU SEE LOCATED ALL THE WAY AT THE TOP OF THE MAP TO THE RIGHT TO ST. JOHNS. THE MINIONS OF THE COMMUNITY IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE RED HOUSE YOU SEE IS THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU TODAY , AND WE BELIEVE THAT, IN EFFECT, WORKERS ARE BEING GEOGRAPHICALLY COALESCED WITHIN A CERTAIN AREA OF THE COUNTY AND, AND WHILE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS REALLY NEEDED THERE, THAT AREA DOES NOT REPRESENT THE ONLY AREA IN THE COUNTY WHERE JOBS ARE LOCATED, ANY WORKFORCE IS NEEDED. HOW MANY HOMES THESE COMMUNITIES ADD TO THE SUPPLY, AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL SUPPLY IS IN EACH SUBMARKET. IN TOTAL, 16 OF THE 17 EXISTING AFFORDABLE COMMUNITIES ARE IN THESE TWO SUBMARKETS, SPECIFICALLY SAINT AUGUSTINE FL ST. JOHN. SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO TAX CREDIT DEVELOPMENT. THE OTHER 160 IS POINTED OUT . ARE OTHER ST. JOHNS, WHICH HE MANAGED AND HAD A $7,000,000.00 DECISION ON. MEETING SOME UNITS WITHIN THE PROPERTY ARE BOTH INCOME AND WRENCH RESTRICTED. WE LOOK TO Z.I.P. CODES WHICH CONTAIN OUR SITE , AND THE FOUR CLASSES OF CODES AROUND. FOR REFERENCE, THE SLIDE SHOWS YOU THOSE Z.I.P. CODES. BASED ON SENSES IN AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEYS , WE SEE THAT ALMOST 6000 HOUSEHOLDS IN THE SURROUNDING FIVE Z.I.P. CODES CALL PFEIFFER WORKFORCE HOUSING BASED ON THEIR HOUSEHOLD INCOME. THAT IS 10% OF ALL THE HOUSEHOLDS WITHIN THE FIVE Z.I.P. CODES THAT WERE STUDIED. THE FINAL PIECE OF THIS ANALYSIS LOOKS AT WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING EXISTS WITHIN THOSE FIVE Z.I.P. CODES.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE FIVE Z.I.P. CODES, THE ONLY Z.I.P.

CODE THAT CONTAINS ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS 32084, WHICH ENCOMPASSES SOME OF THE SAINT AUGUSTINE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CLUSTER WE SAW ON THE MAP EARLIER. THERE ARE ROUGHLY 5500 HOUSEHOLDS IN THE PHYSICAL THE QUALIFY IN THE NEED OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING , AND DO NOT HAVE HOUSING THAT MATCHES THEIR NEEDS. THOSE ARE 5500 HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE PAYING MORE THAN WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD, AND CAN'T FIND HOUSING AT A PRICE IT IS APPROPRIATE TO THEIR INCOME THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE COUNTY TODAY. TAKING A CLOSER LOOK, WE CAN PULL DATA

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FROM A MAKER USE DATA AREA, OR OTHERWISE CONSIDERED A PUMA.

THE CENSUS BUREAU TAKES A CENSUS TRACT, AND FURTHER DIVIDES THE SENSES START INTO EVEN SMALLER PIECES THE REPRESENTS A 100,000 PERSON SAMPLING. IN THOSE HOUSES, 685 OF THEM, THAT'S OVER 66% , PAYING MORE THAN THE RENT TO THE CHURCH. AS WE LOOK, AGAIN, IN ORTHO ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS JUST UNDER 110,000. THAT MEANS MOST FOLKS LIVING AROUND HERE ARE HIGHER EARNERS, LIKELY OWNING HEIGHT EARNERS SIMPLE FAMILY HOMES. THAT FIGURE IS ONLY CLIMBING. THE AVERAGE PRICE OF A RENTAL IN NORTHWEST ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS JUST AROUND 2600. FOR THE AVERAGE WORKER WHO IS EMPLOYED IN THIS AREA , RENTING OR OWNING A HOME IS NOT A REALITY. A FOUR PERSON HOUSEHOLD AT THE INCOME LEVEL THAT WE ARE SERVING , JUST RUN $50,000.00, SHOULD BE SPENDING NO MORE THAN $15,000.00 ON THEIR HOUSING COSTS PER MONTH.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, PER AVERAGE, THE AVERAGE RATE MARKERS IN THIS LOCATION ARE AVERAGING $1200.00 HIGHER. TO PUT THESE NUMBERS INTO RELATABLE TERMS, RESEARCHED AVAILABLE JOBS IN THE COUNTY, IN THE POST SALARY OF THE JOBS . WE LOOKED AT EMPLOYER REPORTS , WE CALLED EMPLOYERS DIRECTLY, LOOK AT THE STANDARD SITE LIKE INDEED, GLASS DOOR, OPEN PAYROLLS , ALL OF WHICH GATHER SOME SALARIES OR SALARY SCHEDULES FOR THE EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE COUNTY. WE WANTED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHO WAS WORKING WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, AND WHO WOULD QUALIFY TO LIVE HERE. WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA AROUND THE SITE FOR MEDICAL ASSISTANCE, SURGICAL TECHNICIANS AT THE LOCAL HOSPITALS WHO WORK AT PUBLIX AND BAG YOUR GROCERIES, WHO TEACHER KIDS, WEALTHY TEACHERS FUTURE KIDS, AND ANYONE WORKING AT THIS COUNTY MAKES YOUR LIFE EASIER AND SIMPLER AND FASTER EVERY DAY. BUT DON'T JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. FEEL FREE TO LOOK AT THE 50 LETTERS OF SUPPORT IN YOUR PACKET FROM ALL THE LOCAL BUSINESSES AS WE WENT OUT AND CANVASSED TO DISCUSS THIS TOPIC. THE CHART ON THE SLIDE WAS TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM EMPLOYER REPORTS THAT WERE COLLECTED AS A PART OF ONE OF THEIR ARTICLES THAT WAS RECENTLY PUBLISHED ABOUT LESS TRAFFIC BEING A BENEFIT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THEY COLLECTED DATA FROM FOUR OF THE LORD SIMPLER THAN THE COUNTY TO HELP UNDERSTAND HOW MANY WORKERS ARE LIVING IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, AND HOW MANY ARE LIVING OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY AND DRIVING IN FROM ELSEWHERE.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE AREA WHERE PEOPLE WORK, THE SOLUTION IS SIMPLE. PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE WHERE THEY WORK , THEY DON'T NEED TO COMMUTE AS FAR, AND TRAFFIC CONGESTION WILL BE REDUCED. I AM SURE WE SEEN ANY NUMBER OF THESE NEW SUPPORTS HIGHLIGHTING JUST HOW DIFFICULT IT IS FOR TEACHERS TO LIVE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY ON CURRENT SALARIES. THE DISTRICT AND COUNTY HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT STRIDES IN RAISING SALARY FOR DISTRICT EMPLOYEES. BUT WITH THE WAY THAT HOUSING COSTS AND HOME PRICES CONTINUE TO RISE, THE REALITY IS THAT MORE TEACHERS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE PRICED AT A ST. JOHNS COUNTY. ST. JOHNS COUNTY WILL NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE UP TO THREE TEACHERS FOR SCHOOLS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE. WITHIN THE NEXT THREE YEARS ALONE, THE DISTRICT WILL BUILD MORE ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR SIDE, CRATING CAPACITY FOR 6000 NEW STUDENTS. THOSE SCHOOLS WILL BE TEACHERS AND STAFF AND A CLEAR BENEFIT OF THIS PROPOSAL YOU BRING TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THOSE TEACHERS AND SUPPORT STAFF. WHILE OVERCROWDING OF SCHOOLS AS PART OF THE SCHOOL CAPACITY CONCERNS THE NEIGHBORS BROUGHT UP, ANOTHER MAJOR ISSUE WAS TEACHER TO STUDENT RATIO AND CLASS SIZES. TO THAT END, WE MET WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO UNDERSTAND THE MAJOR BARRIERS TO SMALL CLASS SIZES, AND WERE NOT SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT STRUGGLES TO FIND ADEQUATE STAFF DUE TO THE LACK OF HOUSING AFFORDABILITY FOR EDUCATORS ADMINISTRATION DOES. TO TRY TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE AND ADDRESS THE WORKFORCE CHALLENGES THAT WE HEARD ABOUT FROM OVER 50 BUSINESSES , WE ARE PROPOSING AN EMPLOYER PREFERENCE COMMITTEE BENEFIT AGREEMENT. THE MINIUM IS AGREEING TO ENTER A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT INTO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. ALSO THE

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COUNTY TO HAVE ACCESS TO TEACHERS AND OTHER ESSENTIAL WORKERS WHO ARE LOCAL TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY. WHILE FOLLOWING ALL FAIR HOUSING PRACTICES, WE PLEDGED TO CREATE AN AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS FOR TEACHERS AND COUNTY WORKERS TO ACCESS INFORMATION AND WAIT LISTS MORE QUICKLY AS UNITS COME ONLINE.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR PROPOSAL TODAY.

I HAVE ENJOYED GETTING TO KNOW ALL OF YOU. I HAVE WORKED WITH YOU GUYS FOR OVER 2 1/2 YEARS NOW TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THE COUNTY . I HAVE ENJOYED GETTING TO KNOW THE COMMUNITY, AND I ALSO ENJOYED TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BEST CREATE A PROPOSAL THAT IS ENTICING TO COME AT THE 30 YEARS AFFORDABILITY THAT CAN BE DONE . YOU HAVE HEARD OUR PROPOSAL THE NOW INCLUSIVE TRAFFIC AND PERMITS, WHICH REDIRECT RESULTS OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT WILL WIDEN OUR CRUCIAL INTERSECTION IS CURRENTLY NOT A PRIORITY , AND DO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ALL BEFORE THE RESIDENT IS SUBMITTED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION , AND I HOPE YOU WILL SUBMIT THIS PROPOSAL SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS MUCH-NEEDED HOUSING.

>> THANK YOU, MISS ARCHER. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> YES. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. YOU SHOULD THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY WHO NEEDS INFORMATIVE HOUSING. DOES IS INCLUDE THE RESERVES? HOW TO LIVE HERE FOR YEAR , OR YOU HAVE TO WORK AT THE COUNTY FOR CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME? AFTER QUALIFY?

>> FOR THE COMMITTEE AND IF IT'S AGREEMENT SPECIFICALLY? THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE NEGOTIATE WITH THE COUNTY. WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT IS PHYSICALLY PART OF THE PACKAGE. I KNOW WE CIRCULATED IT TO YOU ALL. BUT AS A PART OF THE OF THOSE DOCUMENT NEGOTIATIONS, IF THAT WAS THE PREFERENCE OF THE COUNTY , OR THAT WITH THE PREFERENCE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE COULD ADD THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN THERE. THEY ONLY TO BE WITHIN THE ALLOTTED ALLOWED US WITHIN FAIR HOUSING. THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE WITH FLORIDA HOUSING AS WELL. BUT WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT A SERIES OF NEGOTIATING THESE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE HAVE DONE IT AS A PART OF SIMILAR PROCESSES FOR DEALS LIKE THESE . BUT SPECIFICALLY AT OUR PROJECT IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO QUALIFY, THEY HAVE TO PROVE THAT THEY MAKE TWO TIMES THE RENT IN ORDER TO LIVE THERE. SO, THAT IS ONE OF THE BASIC REQUIREMENTS THAT WE DO ARCHITECTS, CREDIT CHECKS, ALL THE STANDARD REQUIREMENTS TO LIVE ON THE PROPERTY TO BE RECEIVED IF YOU CAN APPLY FOR A

MARKET RATE TEMPERAMENT. >> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> YES. I WAS A VERY GOOD AND THOROUGH PRESENTATION WITH LOTS OF RESEARCH. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO LOOK AT TWO SLIDES THAT WENT BY SO FAST. I WANTED TO LOOK AT THEM AGAIN. ONE WAS WITH MARK ON COMPATIBILITY.

THERE WAS A SLIDE WITH TURNER ON THERE AND HOME DEPOT? IT SHOULD THE AREA OF BUSINESS? RIGHT THERE, HANG ON A SECOND.

OKAY, THANKS. IN THE NEXT IS ALL THOSE LANES THAT YOU ARE ADDING, WHERE DO THEY GO? YOU CAN PULL BACK ON IT, SO I

CAN'T REALLY SEE. >> YES. THE SHORT ANSWER GOING WEST OR SOUTH , YEAH, THERE ARE TWO LANES NOW. THIS WIDENED A PORTION OF THEM FROM TWO TO FOUR , AS MR. SCHILLING

OUTLINED. >> RIGHT. BUT AT THE END OF THAT, DO THE OLDEST GO LIKE THIS?

>> YEAH, YOU CAN SEE, FOR EXAMPLE ON THAT GRAPHIC THERE , IT DOES TAPER DOWN, AND THE SAME IS TRUE ON THE STATE ROAD

16 PORTION. >> I AM HIGHLY CONCERNED WITH

THE TRAFFIC. >> YEAH.

>> DID YOU GUYS A LOT FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL IN THE TWO MILE RANGE? SO THE KIDS ALSO HAVE TO DRIVE?

>> YES. IS OVER 100 ACRES FOR LITIGATION. IT'S ABOUT ONE .3

MILES AWAY. >> YOU CAN'T GET A BUS?

>> IS VERY CLOSE. >> YOU CAN GET A BUS APPEARANCE TO DRIVE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE PEAK HOUR COUNT.

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>> HOPEFULLY WE PUT HIGH SCHOOLS IN YOUR HOUSES. THAT IS A POLICY ISSUE ABOUT HOW MUCH SCHOOLBUS TAKES PLACE.

>> OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? OKAY. LET

YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY. WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS THREE AND FOUR. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> ACRES. I AM EXCITED TO SEE SOME AFFORDABLE PROJECTS COMING TO LATE. I'M CURIOUS IF ANYONE HAS SEEN A PHYSICAL LEASE AGREEMENT TO BROWSE OVER JUST TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DRAGON IS IN THERE THAT IS TRULY AFFORDABLE AND OBTAINABLE TO THE AVERAGE CITIZEN? I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN ANYTHING. IT'S JUST INTERESTING THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO GIVE A SIX TIMES THE UNIT PRICE FOR NO REASON. THEY ARE DESTROYED TO MAKE US HAPPY, WHICH SEEMS KIND OF ALARMING.

WHEN SOMEONE IS USUALLY TRYING TO SUGARCOAT IT, THERE IS SOMETHING OUT OF PLACE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE A CONCRETE JUNGLE.

HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS ARE IN THAT FACILITY? I CANNOT EVEN TELL YOU. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE PARKING IS FOR THAT.

I'M CURIOUS TO SEE IF WE WILL HAVE A PARKING ISSUE , BECAUSE ARE POTENTIALLY FOUR PEOPLE IN THE UNIT. AND I'M CURIOUS IF YOU WILL MAINTAIN THAT. YOU SEE THERE'S A BUILDING ON THE ROAD THAT NEEDED $7,000,000.00 MAINTENANCE. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS SOME NEGLECT THERE, WHICH IS KIND OF CONCERNING.

EVEN AT THAT BUILDING , TO SERVICE THAT , I CAN'T IMAGINE TO YOU , $7,000,000.00 SEEMS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. I'M CURIOUS IF YOU COULD PUSH IT TO 40 YEARS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D BE WILLING TO HELP US OUT 40 YEARS , YOU KNOW, A 10 MORE YEARS TO IT REALLY. IS AN X OR 10 YEARS WHEN YOU'VE GOT THEM TO HELP US OUT. THE NEXT THREE YEARS WOULD GO A LONG WAY. THERE IS 20 OF LIFESTYLE IN THAT AREA. THEY GOING TO PLAY THE WHOLE PARKING LOT AND ITS ROLE ROAM AROUND? HOPEFULLY THERE IS SOME THOUGHT FOR THESE KIDS LIVING IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND WHILE WE ARE ON HERE , DO THEY HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE OVER HERE? ARE GIVING US GREAT PRESENTATIONS.

I FIGURED WATER AND POWER TO BE INCLUDED BE GREAT. THAT IS WHAT I WOULD DO. YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT DAY.

>> HEATHER HARLEY-DAVIDSON. I AM REAL FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA. I HAVE RAVISHED A ROSEBUSH THAT WAS ON THAT FENCE. MY PARENTS LIVE IN GREEN COVE , SO IT JUST BREAKS MY HEART . THEY ARE HAVING TO US TO AMEND THE CONFERENCE OF LAND PLAN, AND I WILL ASK THAT YOU SAY NO. WE DO NOT HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN 2006. THE INCREASED DENSITY PROBABLY FOR SILVERLEAF. YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHEN YOU ARE GIVING AWAY THE NEIGHBORHOOD BATHWATER. THE ROSES THERE ARE HORRENDOUS. THE POOR CHILDREN JUST GET UNLOADED INTO THE PUBLIC SHOPPING CENTER UP THERE. IT'S RIDICULOUS. SOME POINTS I WANT TO MAKE THAT WITHIN THE CONFERENCE OF LAND PEN THAT WAS PROPOSED IN 2025, DEVELOPING WITHIN SILVERLEAF PARCEL 40 WILL NOT BE PERMITTED UNTIL FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY IS DONE JANUARY 30TH. JANUARY, 2030. WE HAD A MOMENT LOADED AROUND HERE. DO NOT INCREASE THE DENSITY! THE ROADS ARE HORRIBLE! I CAN'T EVEN GET TO MY MOM. IT TAKES ME TWO HOURS. IT USED TO TAKE ME 35 MINUTES.

COME ON, PEOPLE, WE HAVE TO STOP THE CRUISE GROWTH. DO THIS SENSIBLY. AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A CODE WORD FOR INCREASED DENSITY AND BIGGER TAX DOLLARS, OKAY?

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>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO COME HERE AND OBJECT TO THIS DEVELOPING GOING IN. THE COMMUNITY HAS THE FOURTH LARGEST LOW-INCOME HOUSING. THEY JUST THE DOLLAR SIGNS.

THIS IS ALL THEY ARE ABOUT. THEY ARE A FOR-PROFIT COMPANY.

THEY HAD A PIECE OF LAND THAT DID NOT MEET THEIR NEEDS. THEY KNEW IT DID NOT MEET THEIR REQUIREMENTS. IT WAS NOT ZONED FOR. THEY PUT A PIRATE THAT DID NOT SUPPORT THE PROJECT WAS.

THEY SAID THEY WOULD IMPROVE THE ROAD WITH MITIGATION . BUT IF YOU DON'T BUILD IT, THERE IS NO MITIGATION. THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT HOW TEACHERS ARE GOING TO MOVE IN, LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE GOING TO MOVE IN. IF THEY PUT THE SLIDE BACK UP FOR THE REQUIREMENTS, A TEACHER OR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER HAS A SPOUSE THAT WILL DO EQUAL AMOUNTS. THEY WILL BE PRICED OUT OF THERE. THERE ARE COMMITTEES LIKE THIS ARRESTING AND CHASING PEOPLE . THIS IS JUST A MONEY GRAB. THIS IS JUST A FOR-PROFIT COMPANY , AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT DOES NOT BELONG. THANK YOU.

>> IT AFTERNOON. SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WERE SPOKEN WITH ME WAS THE CODE WORD AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WHAT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING? THEY ARE NOT GIVING ANYTHING AWAY TO TENANTS. THIS IS ALL GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED HOUSING IN THE LONG RUN , AND NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT. LISTEN, YOU HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS AND DATA IN OPPOSITION TO THIS . I WILL NOT GO OVER IT AGAIN. PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT INCOMPATIBILITY , TRAFFIC, IN EFFECT, TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC, IT TOOK US OVER 10 MINUTES THIS MORNING COMING HERE JUST ACROSS INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY.

OVER 10 MINUTES SITTING IN TRAFFIC , AND NOW, YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ADDITIONAL STEW THAT? THE SCHOOLS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY ARE A PROBLEM. THEY ARE STARTING TO BECOME OVERCROWDED.

FOR ME, I LOOK AT THIS AS AN IMPACT ON MY HOME VALUES . BUT I WILL NOT REPEAT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE COMMUNICATED TO YOU , AND WHAT YOU WILL COMMUNICATE. I FIND IT KIND OF AN SUITABLE THAT WE GET OUT OF TOWN PEOPLE COMING HERE AND LECTURING US ABOUT THE NEED FOR, QUOTE UNQUOTE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. NOT EVERY CITY OR TOWNSHIP HAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING STANDARDS . THE TOWN OF PALM BEACH, BEVERLY HILLS, IT IS NOT IN THE LEXICON. I CAME BACK FROM AN OVERSEAS ASSIGNMENT IN 2008 , YOU KNOW, DURING THE HOUSING COLLAPSE, RIGHT? I LIVED IN PALM BEACH COUNTY , AND COMMUTED EVERY DAY TO NORTH DAY COUNTY BECAUSE OF THE HOUSING COLLAPSE IN DAY COUNTY.

LET ME TELL YOU LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF AND WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME. THE TELL ME WORK ETHIC, AND MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN MARRIED FOR ALMOST 42 YEARS NOW. WE WORKED VERY HARD TO SACRIFICE TO GET WHERE WE ARE. IN MY 25 YEAR LAW ENFORCEMENT NATIONAL SECURITY CAREER , WE HAD THREE DOMESTIC ASSIGNMENTS TO LIVE WHERE WE LIVE TODAY , AND THIS WILL ALTER OUR WAY OF LIFE. THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT.

THIS IS NOTHING THAT WE SHOULD BE PROPOSING . IT WILL CHANGE OUR WAY OF LIFE. I KNOW THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GETS YOUR COUNTY LIKE IT IS ON ITEM 29. THERE IS ALWAYS SOMETHING, A QUID PRO QUO. THEY ARE ASKING YOU FOR SOMETHING NOW . I BEG YOU, PLEASE DENY IT. THANK YOU.

>> MY NAME IS CHASE OLSON. I'M A REGIONAL MANAGER. ORIGINALLY CAME TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I HAVE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK HERE

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WHO ARE GOOD, HARD-WORKING PEOPLE. THEY LIVE IN JACKSONVILLE. THE LIVING GREEN COAST SPRINGS. WE DO ASK A PRODUCT FOR ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE FROM $2000.00 TO $2000.00. IT SAID THAT THEY HAD TO TRAVEL SO FAR TO COME TO WORK. YOU KNOW, I SIT ACROSS IN THESE PEOPLE AND TALK TO THEM WITH THE STRUGGLES OF DRIVING AN HOUR TO WORK, BUT THEY LOVE IT , BECAUSE THEY LOVE WHAT THEY DO. SOME PEOPLE LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPING CAREER, BUT SOME PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE THEIR LIVES BETTER . I AM IN FAVOR OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING . YOU KNOW, IS IT WITH THESE PEOPLE EVERY DAY. THEY DON'T MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS OTHER PEOPLE. THEY DON'T. THEY CAN MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS SOMEONE WHO HAS WORKED FOR 25 YEARS. TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SERVING PEOPLE , SOMEONE WHO IS LEADING THE CUSTOMERS CAR WITH PLANTS , THEY'RE JUST THE SAME AS A DOCTOR . THANK

YOU. >> BEFORE I START, I JUST WANT TO PRESENT THE POSITION THAT I MAILED TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. I REQUESTED A COUPLE MORE MINUTES AND THE THREE MINUTES .

>> NO, MA'AM. >> NO? ALL RIGHT. THE REPRESENTATIVES FAILED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DENIED THIS CONCURRENCY. THERE IS A CAPACITIES IN OUR SCHOOL RIGHT NOW. THE EQUATION WHICH THAT WAS USED TO GENERATE THIS IS SAYING THAT THEY WILL ONLY GENERATE 46 STUDENTS. THEY HAVE 288 UNITS , AND WITH THREE VETERANS, THEY HAVE 156, FOUR BEDROOMS, THEY HAVE HUNDRED 72. THAT EQUALS 876 BEDROOMS. IF YOU MINUS OUT THE PRIMARY PARENT BEDROOM, THAT LEAVES YOU WITH 588. ARE WE TO REALLY BELIEVE THAT ONLY 46 CHILDREN ARE GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF THIS DEVELOPING? IF I LOOK AT THE STAFF REPORT THAT WAS SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING, IT CLEARLY IDENTIFIES THAT THERE IS NO CAPACITY IN OUR SCHOOLS. AGAIN, CONCERNS THE SUPPORT ALSO SAYS THAT. IF WE THEN GO TO, MY APOLOGIES -- ACTUALLY, SORRY , I ATTENDED A SUPERINTENDENT MEETING AT THE VERY 28TH. IN THERE, IT ACTUALLY EDITED BY THE NUMBER OF RELOCATABLE THAT THEY HAVE WITHIN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE HAVE 598 PORTABLES FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES. THAT IS EQUIVALENT TO 12,399 STUDENTS GETTING EDUCATION AND REPORTABLE. THAT IS EQUIVALENT TO 16 ELEMENT OR SCHOOLS. THIS IS A SLIDE THAT WAS TAKEN FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT MEETING. SO, RIGHT THERE, IS ALREADY TELLING US. IF WE DON'T HAVE A PORTABLE, WE DON'T HAVE CAPACITY IN OUR SCHOOLS. THESE OWNED THAT THIS IS OWN FOR , MILL CREEK ACADEMY, IT IS TO KILL WAY. THERE IS NO CAPACITY IN THEM WHATSOEVER. IN THE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE PROPOSED DO NOT IMPACT OF THIS DISTRICT AT ALL.

THE SCHOOL DOWN THE STREET WILL NOT HAVE ANY CAPACITY TAKEN OUT OF MILL CREEK ACADEMY. THE NEXT ONE WILL ALSO BE TWIN CREEKS.

THAT IS GOING TO BE OVERRUN TO TENURED ROUTE 1 , NOT IMPACTING WORRIER. SCHOOL PP WILL BE RIVERSIDE OR RIVERTOWN . SCHOOL QQ WILL BE SELLER RELEASE. NONE OF THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE IMPACTING US. SORRY, I'M TRYING TO FIND WHERE THE MAP IS. CURRENT MIDDLE SCHOOL, I WANT TO POINT OUT, CURRENT MIDDLE SCHOOL, THIS IS WHERE THE PROPOSED SITE IS. YOU CAN SEE MILL CREEK IN THE RED. EVERYTHING ELSE IS SET FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL . AND THEN, FOR OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, OKAY GREAT HERE, AGAIN, FOR THE PROPOSED SITE IS. ANY OF THOSE NEW SCHOOLS HAVE NO IMPACT ON THIS COMMITTEE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> I WILL TRY TO GET TO THIS QUICK. THERE WAS ONLY ONE REASON I WANT TO COME HERE. THE 2090. WE WILL GET MORE MONEY FROM SECTION 8 MORE THAN

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ANYWHERE ELSE. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON. THEY CARE ABOUT OUR COUNTY, OR Z.I.P. CODE, AND OUR RESIDENTS. AND I WILL LEAVE THIS AFTER I LEAVE. FIRST MEETING, I LOOKED THEM UP, IF ANY SINGLE LAWSUIT IN MINNESOTA. THEY SHIFTED MONEY FROM A HEATED PARKING LOT AND WENT OUT AND RECRUITED SENIORS TO LIVE THERE. NO BEEN FALTERED DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. THAT IS HOW AN EIGHT PERSON LAWSUIT WITH MORE DEFENDANTS ARE LISTED THAN I CAN CLAIM BECAUSE IT WAS DOUBLE DIPPING. THEY ARE NOTHING MORE THAN AN ABSENTEE OUT-OF-STATE SLUMLORD . YOU GUYS CAN LOOK AT IT. YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE LAWSUIT. THE BOTTOM LITTLE KIDS AND SENIORS, AND TOOK MONEY FROM THEM BY CHARGING A PARKING SPACE ALREADY SUPPOSED TO BE PAID FOR. THEY SHIFTED MONEY FROM ONE TO ANOTHER. IS THAT THE KIND OF COMPANY YOU WANT HERE? I DON'T THINK SO. SECONDLY, YOU ALREADY DENIED A SMALLER FOOTPRINT LAST YEAR ACROSS THE STREET. SAME LOCATION, FEWER HOUSES WITH WORKING STATE HOLDERS. PEOPLE BENEFIT THIS COMMUNITY. NOT SOME CORPORATE SHELL WHO IS GOING TO COME IN HERE AND JUST TAKE MONEY FROM THE GOVERNMENT. TRAFFIC. IS NOTHING MORE THAN JAMMING FOUR LANES IN THE EXISTING TWO LANES HERE. CAN GET TO THE NATIONAL PARKWAY? GREAT. WE HAVE FOUR LANES NOW JAMMED INTO TWO. OR TRAFFIC WAS NOWHERE FOR IT TO GO. DRIVING AN HOUR TO WORK? I AM SORRY. I GET DRIVING OVER AN HOUR FOR YOUR 22 CAREER LAW ENFORCEMENT. MAKING GOOD MONEY, AND STILL DRIVING AN HOUR TO WORK? I DID NOT GET TO LIVE HERE UNTIL IT WAS 49 THREE YEARS AGO. I EARNED THE RIGHT TO LIVE HERE BECAUSE I WORKED MY WAY UP LIVING IN A SING HOME TO A POST SANDER LAWN TO A DECENT HOUSE, AND FINALLY, WHEN I RETIRED, MOVING HERE AT 49. I EARNED IT. I DID NOT GET TO LIVE IN NICE PLACES BACK IN AS A VENUE. I DROVE MORE AND ARTWORK. SORRY, SOMETIMES IT IS PART OF GETTING YOUR CAREER STARTED TO GROW AND MOVE UP.

WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO GIVE US 52 $7,000,000.00? BECAUSE WHAT DO THEY WANT TO MAKE OVER THE NEXT 20 OR 30 YEARS? IT'S ASTRONOMICAL. THINK ABOUT IT. ASTRONOMICAL. THESE ROADS? SILVERLEAF STILL HAS 2000 HOUSES TO GO. WHAT ARE THESE EXTRA THINGS WANTING TO DO? THEY ARE AN OUT-OF-STATE ABSENTEE SLUMLORD LOOKING FOR A CATCHALL. I LEAVE YOU WITH THE

NAMES? >> PLEASE.

>> MY NAME IS JIM GOODFRIEND. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, COMMISSIONERS , TO ACCESS MY FEELINGS. I APPRECIATE IT. I ASK YOU TO PLEASE LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE. I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS FOR MASSIVE OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT. I LIVED IN THE AREA FOR 20 YEARS AND WATCHED THE AREA GROW. THE SCHOOLS, THEY'RE WONDERFUL. THERE'S NICE GROWTH. BUT WE HAVE REACHED THE POINT OF SATURATION. WE REACHED THE POINT WHERE NEED TO SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND LET THINGS CATCH UP. IF ANY OF THESE PROPOSALS HERE ARE JUST WHAT THEY SAY, THEY ARE JUST DOWN THE ROAD. YOU'RE LOOKING YEARS FROM NOW BEFORE THE THINGS ARE COMPLETED. UNTIL THEN, YOUR PRODUCT THAT ARE NOT COMPLETED. IT'S THERE, BUT THERE ARE MANY MORE HOMES TO GO THROUGH. THERE ARE A LOT OF PROJECTS UNDERWAY THAT WILL PROBABLY MAKE THE SITUATION GET WORSE. BUT I AM HOPING WE CATCH UP. ROADS ARE OVERCROWDED. I TRY TO GET THE ENTRANCE OUT TO MY COMMUNITY, AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS I SIT THERE FOR OVER 10 MINUTES, AND THEN YOU ARE LUCKY IF YOU GET TO GO. NOW, THEY MENTION THE FACT THAT THEY WILL HAVE AN EXCELLENT POINT OF 16. HOW MUCH WOULD IT TAKE TO CHANGE THAT EMERGENCY EXIT TO AN ENTRANCE ? OKAY. WERE LOOKING TO OVERCROWD

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THE SCHOOLS. THAT USED TO BE ONE OF THE STRONGEST POINTS WE HAD IN OUR COMMUNITY IN ST. JOHN'S. THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. YOU WILL NOT HAVE A STRONG SCHOOL SYSTEM IF YOU HAVE IT OVERCROWDED SO, THAT IS A CONCERN AS WELL. OUR WHAT WAS ONCE A STRENGTH IS NOW BECOMING A NUISANCE TO THE COMMITTEE.

THE EXISTING COMMITTEE, AS YOU KNOW , DOES NOT HAVE LOW TO MEDIUM INCOME FAMILIES. IT SOUNDS LIKE I AM DEGRADING , BUT WE HAVE HIGH OR MEDIUM INCOME FAMILIES. THEY DON'T MATCH UP TO THE RESPECTIVE HOMES THEMSELVES. WE DON'T NEED 288 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT'S A LOT OF CARS.

AND ONE OTHER THOUGHT. LONGTIME RESIDENTS COME YOU DO WITH

PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> I DIDN'T EVEN GET A CHANCE! JUST DON'T LET US DOWN!

>> SIR! THREE MINUTES. >> I AM LISA WALKER, 733 . I LIVE IN THE ORBITAL SUBDIVISION. MY HUSBAND AND I ARE RETIRED. WE MOVED HERE IN SEPTEMBER. WE CHOSE THE LOCATION, AND WE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH. WE WANTED TO RETIRE TO AN AREA THAT HAD A RURAL FEEL TO IT . IT'S THE BEST OF ALL WORLDS. WE HAVE EVERYTHING CLOSE TO US , BUT THEN THIS PROJECT CAME UP. I AM JUST UP THE STREET FROM WHERE THIS LOCATION IS. WE MOVED HERE FROM ATLANTA. WE MOVED FROM GEORGIA, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF ATLANTA. WE RAISED TWO CHILDREN , AND WE SAW WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN THERE IS A LOT OF GROWTH REALLY, REALLY FAST. I'M LISTENING TO ALL OF THESE FAMILY , AND LISTENING TO ALL OF THESE PEOPLE , AND I AM SO UNDERSTANDING. IT IS, LIKE, WE LIVED IN THIS. WE LIVED IN A BEDROOM RURAL COMMUNITY THAT'S WENT TOO FAST. THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS NOT THERE. WE DID NOT CHANGE HOUSES. WE DO NOT MOVE OUT OF OUR SUBDIVISION. OUR SUBDIVISION WAS REDISTRICTING FOUR TIMES JUST FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

THIS IS WHAT CAN HAPPEN IF IT IS NOT LOOKED AT LONG, LONG TERM. IF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE , IT BECOMES A NIGHTMARE. AND THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED. WE LOVE WHAT IT USED TO BE. IT IS CROWDED, IT HAS ROADS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY JAMPACKED. WE LIVED LESS THAN 10 POINT MINUTES FROM THE AREA.

IT WAS SO CLOSE TO OUR HOUSE , BUT YOU HAD TO ALLOW FOR DOCTORS APPOINTMENTS OR ANYTHING, YOU ENDED UP TALKING ON MORE AND MORE TIME FOR SIMPLE THINGS. SO, ALL I AM ASKING IS STOP AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE PUTTING IN THESE COMMUNITIES . WHAT THE BURDEN IS TO THE FAMILIES THAT LIVE THERE. BECAUSE ALL OF THIS F EXTRA TRAFFIC AND THESE ROADWAYS , WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING IS FIXES. THEIR MERGING AND ADDING JUST A SMALL LANE. ALL THAT DOES IS AT A TIME , IN THE COMMUNAL SYSTEM IS CRAZY. I'M JUST ASKING, PLEASE THINK OF THAT WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO THIS COMMITTEE,

BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN IT HAPPEN. >> THANK YOU.

>> HI, I AM JOHN WALKER . I SENT LETTERS TO ALL OF YOU THREE TIMES IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET. I MIGHT ADD THAT I WAS ACTUALLY DISAPPOINTED AND DISMAYED AT THE PCA MEETING. THERE ARE MULTIPLE PEOPLE WHO GOT UP AND

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SPOKE IN OPPOSITION. ONLY TO HAVE THE ZONING APPROVED . TO ME , THAT WAS SUCH A KICK IN THE GUT , AND HOPEFULLY, THE WISDOM OF THE COMMISSION HERE WILL ALLOW FURTHER ALONG THE PROCESS OF SANDING. AS FAR AS THE AUTOMATED ISSUES I HAVE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT'S BEEN TAUGHT TIME AND TIME AGAIN. BUT ALSO, THE COMPATIBILITY. SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ALL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF COMMERCIAL COMPATIBILITY OF THE PERMITS GOING IN . IT'S JUST INCOMPREHENSIBLE.

TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS TO $7,000,000.00 , HAVING A QUICK FOR TO THE INTERSECTION THERE , IT'S A QUICK FIX OR WE WILL SPEND PROBABL THE NEXT 20 TO 30 MINUTES WITH THAT INTERSECTION GOING EITHER WAY ON 16 OR SILVER. THE LANES MERGE DOWN FROM FOUR TO TWO LANDS , AND WE WILL STILL BE HERE FOR A LONG TIME. AND I KNOW FROM LISTENING AND PARTICIPATING TO COMMISSIONER MEETINGS THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN BASHED RELENTLESSLY FOR WHAT IS GOING ON . I RECOGNIZE THAT A LOT OF THAT IS COMING TO FRUITION NOW THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, APPROVED MANY GENERATIONS AGO, AND HERE WE ARE, HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES. BUT IT WOULD URGE YOU ALL . THIS IS YOUR ONLY TIME TO STAND UP AGAINST THE WIDESPREAD THE VELTMAN. THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SHINE . YOUR ROTATION OF BEING A WESTON TO DENY THIS REQUEST, I APPRECIATE

YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

>> IT AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS . I WILL REITERATE SOME OF THE POINTS , BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE POINTS OF ALREADY BEEN SAID. MY NAME IS SCOTT GREG. I LIVE IN THE FIRST WORDS CREEK. IS ANOTHER THEM IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROPOSED INCOME PARKING COMPLEX. I AM A CONSTITUENT OF YOURS, AS MOST OF US ARE IN THIS ROOM. WE ARE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. DOMINION IS FROM MINNESOTA. THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM ATLANTA , AND THEY ARE HERE TO TELL US WHAT IS BEST FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. OUR KIDS GO TO SCHOOL HERE. WE WORK HERE . WE DRIVE HERE EVERY DAY. WE KNOW THE CONDITIONS. OUR OPINIONS ARE NOT BASED ON THEORETICAL'S OR PROBABILITIES, OUR STAMENS ARE BASED ON FACT THAT WE ARE LIVING EVERY DAY. I WANT TO REITERATE THE NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE ON OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT AND ROADS.

ALMOST 900 BEDROOMS . THEY SAY 280 APARTMENTS , BUT IT IS ALMOST 900 BEDROOMS. IF YOU SUBTRACT 288 MASTER BEDROOM, THAT STILL LEAVES PLENTY OF BEDROOMS FOR CHILDREN WITH THE DEVELOPER WILL CALCULATE 45 KIDS. THIS BOARD ALREADY DISAPPROVED 115 HOMES ON THE SAME SITE. IF ALL 115 OF THOSE HOMES HAD FOUR BEDROOMS , THAT WOULD ONLY BE 460 BEDROOMS. THIS COMPLEX HAS 876 BEDROOMS. THE SCHOOLS ARE ALREADY OVERCROWDED. ANY SCHOOL WITH A PORTABLE TRAILER FOR A CLASSROOM IS OVERCROWDED. MILL CREEK HAS 46 PORTABLES. SCHOOLS ARE BUILT ON CAPACITY , WHICH MEANS THE LUNCHROOM, THE GYMNASIUMS, THE LOCKERS , YOU CAN KEEP PUTTING OUT PORTABLE CLASSROOMS OUTSIDE, BUT THE REST OF THE SCHOOL CANNOT HANDLE THAT. OUR DAUGHTER HAS TO EAT LUNCH AT 10:30 IN THE MORNING . IT'S NOT SAFE FOR THE CHILDREN, AND IT IS NOT SAFE FOR TEACHERS. THESE ARE NOT BILLED FOR HURRICANES OR TORNADOES. WE HAD A TORNADO TOUCHED DOWN LESS THAN A MILE FROM HERE THREE WEEKS AGO. 30 LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE NOT SAFE

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FROM ACTIVE SHOOTERS. OKAY? I WILL MAKE IT TO BE SAFE IF SOMEBODY DECIDES TO GO OFF. YOU HAD EVERYBODY A. B RECOGNIZE THIS MORNING. THOSE GROUPS WHO WERE DOING THOSE PROCLAMATIONS.

THEY ALL EMPHASIZED PARTNERSHIPS IS WHAT MADE IT WORK. YOU GUYS NEED TO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO MAKE THIS WORK. THEY ARE SAYING THEY ARE OVERCROWDED. TAKE THEIR ADVICE. THAT IS WHAT MAKES ST. JOHN'S COUNTY GREAT. IF THE SCHOOLS THAT MAKE THEM GREAT. THAT IS WHY EVERYONE IS HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> NEXT SPEAKER? >> THANK YOU.

MANY THINGS PROPOSED ORIGINALLY ARE NOT FINISHED. SILVERLEAF IS SUPPOSED TO BE DUMPING INTO THE INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY. INSTEAD, THEY WENT INTO 16. THOSE ROADS ARE ALREADY FEELING. COUNTY ROAD AND STATE ROUTE 16 AND ANYBODY TRYING TO GET TO MARIBEL AM PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOON , YOU CAN'T PASS VERY EASILY. IF ANYTHING HAPPENS ON I-95, YOU CAN'T PASS THROUGH ANY OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS. IT WILL TAKE YOU AN EXTRA HOUR. THE SCHOOLS AND EVERYTHING HAVE ALREADY BEEN TALKED ABOUT . AS A HISTORIC TRAIL , SO THE ONLY PERSON BOTTLENECKS DOWN THE ROAD. THEY DON'T CORRECT THE ROAD PROBLEMS . THIS IS A TIME

PROBLEM . >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

>> I LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPOSED PROJECT. MOST OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS ALREADY ADDRESSED MANY OF THE ISSUES.

IS IT A MOTHER OR DAUGHTER ? EMILY IS COVERED IN OTHERS PEOPLES SWEAT AS SHE IS GOING UP THE STAIRS. JUST THIS MORNING, ONE GENTLEMAN TOOK 10 MINUTES TO PROXIMALLY WHERE WE ARE AT FOR THE INTERACTION OF THE PARKWAY. THAT OBVIOUSLY

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BUILT CONCERN OVER EMERGENCY SITUATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AS OF THE PEOPLE OF TALKED ABOUT, THERE WE OVERCAPACITY , AND IT JUST ISN'T FAIR TO THESE CHILDREN.

AS FOR AS THESE TRAFFIC STUDIES , THEY DON'T EVEN ADDRESS.

THESE NUMBERS ARE ALSO SKEWED AS 2020 WHEN MEDIAN INCOME .

FOR OTHER THINGS TO GO. >> THANK YOU. THIS IS MY COUNTY ALSO. YOU KEEP HEARING ABOUT THE GROWTH. WE DON'T WANT THIS, WE DON'T WANT THAT, WE DON'T WANT THE TRAFFIC. THERE ARE 2000 PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE DAY. A BIG SUPPORTER FOR THIS PROJECT. I REALLY BELIEVE ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM THIS WEEKEND ARE GOING TO GO TO A RESTAURANT AND GET SERVICE FROM SOMEBODY.

THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT EVERYONE WILL GO TO A RESTAURANT THIS WEEKEND. WHERE IS THAT SERVER GOING TO LIVE? COMING DOWN THE HIGHWAY TODAY, THERE WAS A BANNER FOR HOMES STARTING AT $700,000.00. AS TO THE MOUTH . THAT'S A $6000.00 A MONTH MORTGAGE. HERE CAN AFFORD THAT? THIS IS NEEDED.

YEAH, TRAFFIC IS BAD. THAT WILL GET DONE EVENTUALLY. THEY WILL SPEND OUR DOLLARS FOR THE DOWN THE ROAD TO HELP ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC FLOW . IT REALLY JUST COMES DOWN TO EVERYONE DOES NOT WANT IN THEIR BACKYARD, BUT AGAIN, WHO WILL SUPPORT THE RESTAURANTS? WE GO THERE, AND WE WANT TO EAT DINNER. WHO WILL COVER YARDS BECAUSE WE MAKE TOO MUCH MONEY? WE HAVE TO GO TO WORK THAT DAY. HE WAS GOING TO SUPPORT THEM AND THOSE INDIVIDUAL'S AT THE END OF THE DAY? I THINK IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO EVERYONE WANTS THE SERVICE, BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO DO WITH THE SUPPORT THAT NEEDS TO BACK FEED OUR DEMANDS AND OUR NEEDS THAT WE WANT AS THE RETIREES HERE AND WHAT HAVE YOU. I REALLY BELIEVE THIS WILL HELP THE COMMITTEE OUT. AGAIN, IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A PROBLEM . IT'S NOT JUST THIS PROJECT THAT WE HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH.

YOU FOR THE THROUGH TIMES AND TIMES AGAIN IN THIS ROOM. IT'S NOT FAIR THAT INDIVIDUALS THAT DO SUPPORT OUR NEEDS EVERY SINGLE DAY CAN'T LIVE NEAR OR IN THIS COUNTY. THANK YOU.

>> HELLO. EXCUSE ME. I AM ERNIE WILDER. I LIVE AT 47 ONE WALKER DRIVE . I AM SPEAKING TO VOICE OBJECTIONS TO IT. MY LAST

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COUNT, IN RECENT WEEKS , WAS OVER 400,000 ILLEGALS WHO HAVE COME INTO THIS COUNTRY AND PAID BY OUR TAX DOLLARS. MOST OF THEM CAME TO FLORIDA . SOME TO TEXAS. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY HAVE GONE WHEN THEY GO TO FLORIDA. I HAVE A VERY GRAVE CONCERN. MY WIFE AND I DO. AND WE ARE NOT HEARING A LOT FROM THE PROPERTY MANAGER ON THE THEN PROCESS OF ELIGIBILITY .

NOT TALKING ABOUT JOB STATUS . I'M A U.S. CITIZEN , OR SOME OTHER STATUS. A BEEN TOLD THAT THERE IS LOTS OF MONEY REQUIRED FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE PLACES TO LIVE. WHO KNOWS, MAYBE THERE IS 10 TO 15 MILLION DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY. I HAVE A BIG CONCERN THAT THIS PROJECT MIGHT BECOME ONE OF THOSE DESTINATIONS. I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY , ANY MEETINGS THAT I WORRIED ABOUT , THEY DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR STATUS IN THIS COUNTRY . MAYBE IT'S A POSITIVE TO BE IN ONE OF THESE UNITS. SO, SOMETHING I WANTED TO ADD AND DRAW YOUR ATTENTION . THERE IS ONE HEDGE FUND MANAGER WHO'S LINING UP LOTS OF HOUSES AND APARTMENT COMPLEXES . THIS IS ALL HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THE

OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS. >> HELLO, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I CAN'T ADD MUCH MORE TO WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID. BUT I WILL SAY, I OFFER FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION SOME OBSERVATIONS. THE VERY PROCESS IT WOULD'VE GONE THROUGH ON THE PRIOR PROJECT, FOR YOUR BENEFIT , SPEAKING TO THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS , WE HAVE THE MULTIPLE PRESENTATIONS FOR A PER-PERSON SENATE IN THIS PROCESS. WE ARE NOT SEEN ANALYSIS, DATA , AS AN HONEST BROKER, WE APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT FOR WHAT WAS PUT IN. SO, AS A GOVERNMENT ENTITY , THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AS FAR AS URINE ANALYSIS AND METHODOLOGY. AND I WILL SAY TO THE TRUSTWORTHINESS AND ORIGINAL BRIEFINGS, THEY ALLUDED TO MAYBE 19 KIDS. NOW WE ARE UP TO 40. SO, IT IS DISINGENUOUS , AND MAYBE THE FORMULAS ARE WRONG IN THE COMPETITIONS, BUT IT IS NOT GARNER TRUST WHEN THE DATA THAT IS PRESENTED DOES NOT SEEM LOGICAL. THE YOUNG GENTLEMAN MENTIONED 112, I THINK IT WAS, VEHICLES AT THE TIME. OKAY, THERE IS 288 UNITS. SO, THERE IS ONLY 112 PEOPLE GOING TO AND FROM SCHOOL OR TO AND FROM WORK? THOSE TYPES OF DATA POINTS DO NOT GARNER TRUST AND HONESTY. I WOULD SAY FROM YOUR STANDPOINT , BABY PROCESSES YOU HAD IN PLACE AND GOVERNANCE WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE GETTING YOUR OWN HOUSE GOVERNMENTS. AND NOT RELYING ENTIRELY TOO MUCH ON ANYONE JUST COMING IN. THEY BRING A DIFFERENT INCENTIVE TO THE PROCESS. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY COUSINS OR COMMENTS.

TRANSITIONING ] HEARD THIS ILL-ADVISED DEVELOPMENT BEING DESCRIBED IN GREAT DETAIL BY SO MANY CONCERNED NEIGHBORS. I THINK IT IS A SAFE BET THERE WILL BE A 5-0 VOTE AGAINST IT TODAY AND IF I AM CORRECT ABOUT IT, EVERYBODY GOES HOME AND HEAVES A SIGH OF RELIEF AND I THAT EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT TODAY TO DEFEND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEIR QUALITY

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OF LIFE GIVES SOME HARD THOUGHT TO HOW WE GOT WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH ALL OF THESE STUDENTS DESCRIPTIONS OF THE OVERCROWDED SCHOOLS AND ROADS. I KNOW WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THIS IS CAUSED BY PREVIOUS COMMISSIONERS HOWEVER, WE HAVE SEEN COMMISSIONERS VOTE FOR LARGE PROJECTS DESPITE BEING ADVISED THAT THERE ROADS ARE OVER CAPACITY. THERE ARE 19 ROADS THAT -- THEY WERE ADVISED TO HAVE HAD A NEGATIVE IMPACT.

TO HAVE BEEN NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY SILVERLEAF BUT WE HAVE SEEN MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENTS. PLEASE, THINK ABOUT HOW WE GOT WHERE WE WERE. AND THAT THIS IS -- IF THIS IS VOTED DOWN TODAY IT IS NOT LIKE EVERYTHING WILL BE GREAT NOW.

THANK YOU. >> I AM VANESSA SIZEMORE AND I LIVE AT 4 TO 6 HOCKER DRIVE IN WARDS CREEK NEXT TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT. I WANT TO POINT OUT THE LETTER THAT I HAVE ASKED FOR FROM THE COUNTY. IT STATES IN PARAGRAPH TWO THAT THERE IS NO CAPACITY AVAILABLE FOR THE CREEK AND THAT GOES BACK TO -- IS EVERYONE HAS SAID, THE SCHOOLS ARE OVERCROWDED AND WE HAVE 16 SCHOOLS IN THE DISTRICT AND ONLY 16 THAT HAVE ZERO PORTABLE UNITS. ALL OF THE REST HAVE NUMEROUS WITH -- CREEK HAVING 16 OUT OF 97 PORTABLES AND TO PITCH HEADY MIDDLE SCHOOL HAS 24 OUT OF 74 AND MILL CREEK HAS THE REMAINING. THAT IS A VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE OF CLASSROOMS. WHETHER THEY DETERMINE THAT THEY ARE OVER CROWDED -- OVERCROWDED, CLEARLY THEY ARE. WE ARE THE NUMBER ONE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE STATE AND WE HAVE DRAFTED NUMBER TWO WITH THE CONTINUED OVERCROWDING AND WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO SUFFER ANOTHER DOWN. SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO SURPASSES AND THAT HAS BEEN A BIG ATTRACTION TO ST. JOHN'S SCHOOLS. THE NUMBERS THAT DOMINION COMES UP WITH , THE 46.1 STUDENTS, IT IS VERY DISINGENUOUS AND THAT IS NOT EVEN 8% OF THE -- OUT OF THE 288 APARTMENTS. YOU HAVE 588 EXTRA BEDROOMS. IF YOU ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING I DON'T SEE HOW ANYONE CAN AFFORD AN EXTRA BEDROOM WITH NO ONE IN IT. IT YOU WILL EAT THE EITHER HAVE A MASSIVE INCREASE IN CARS OR YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE A MASS INCREASE IN SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN. IT IS A FLAWED METHODOLOGY, WHERE EVER THEY CAME UP WITH THOSE NUMBERS FROM. ALSO, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WHEN WE MOVED HERE THREE YEARS AGO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT SILVERLEAF HAD COMMITTED TO BUILDING THEIR SCHOOL BEFORE ANYONE MOVED IN. BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION STARTED . THAT STILL HAS NOT BEEN DONE SO I SUSPECT THAT DOMINION DOING SOME OF THEIR COMMITMENTS ON THE ROADWAYS WILL NOT HAPPEN EITHER. SCOTT HAD POINTED OUT , OUR PREVIOUS LAW ENFORCEMENT WHO IS A NEIGHBOR OF OURS THAT SPOKE , THERE ARE A LOT OF DANGERS WITH THE SCHOOLS. THAT INCLUDES TORNADOES, HURRICANES, ACTIVE SHOOTERS. THOSE WILL PUT OUR CHILDREN AT RISK AND WE ARE NOT WILLING TO RISK BEING IN A A HIGHLY PREDOMINATE SCHOOL

DISTRICT. >> THANK YOU.

>> HELLO COMMISSIONERS. I AM GEORGE WILSON AND I LIVE AT LOT 27 IN A MORRIS CREEK. I MOVED HERE WITH MY WIFE AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT JONES COUNTY PROVIDES AND THE WAY THAT THE DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN GOING THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS, IT SEEMS LIKE -- IS QUALITY OF LIFE IS NOT BEING CONSIDERED IN THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE BEING APPROVED. THERE ARE LARGE DEVELOPMENTS AND THIS HAS GROWN EXPONENTIALLY. THERE IS NO REASON TO CONTINUE THIS PATH.

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THE INTERSTATE AND THEN OUT TO 210. THE TRAFFIC IS GETTING TO BE TO THE POINT WHERE FIRST RESPONDERS AND MEDICAL EMERGENCY , THEY CAN'T RESPOND TO AN EVENT THAT HAPPENS. I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE WAY THAT THINGS SHOULD BE. FIRST RESPONDERS NEED TO HAVE ACCESS TO GET TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY NEED HELP. THE OTHER ISSUE THAT CONCERNS ME IS YOU HAVE THE POWER, IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU CAN AN ACT A MORATORIUM ON THE DEVELOPMENT -- ANY OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE WITH SILVERLEAF, THEY ALREADY APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AND TO ALL OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE JUST GOING TO MAKE THE TRAFFIC WORSE AND WORSE FOR PEOPLE. GETTING FROM ONE PLACE TO THE OTHER IS GOING TO MAKE IT SO THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE MOVED HERE FOR IS NO LONGER PRESENT. THANK YOU.

>> I AM -- BULLOCK AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS. LET ME TELL YOU WHY. WE ARE SUFFERING FROM THIS KIND OF FLORIDA SYNDROME WHERE I MOVED HERE AND NOW WE NEED TO PULL UP THE DRAWBRIDGE. I MOVED HER 40 YEARS AGO AND I FELT THE SAME WAY. WE NEED TO SLOW THIS DOWN AND PULL UP THE DRAWBRIDGE BUT THE PROBLEM IS, THE PROBLEM IS, WE PULL UP THE DRAWBRIDGE AND WE DON'T TELL THE LAW ALLOW PLACES FOR OUR TEACHERS AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND HOURS SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES TO LIVE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND OUR SERVICE WORKERS TO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY WITH US. WE CUT OUT THE HEART OF THE COMMUNITY. WE CANNOT DO THIS. THIS IS AFFORDABLE LIVING. AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IF ANYBODY THAT LIVES IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTIES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS KNOWS, WE HAVE A HUGE CRISIS NEEDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. A HUGE CRISIS. HERE WE HAVE A GROUP, DOMINION, WHO IS WILLING TO DO THIS FOR 30 YEARS AND I HAVE NOT HEARD THIS KIND OF DEAL COMING BEFORE YOU ALL IN THE TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN LISTENING. I THINK THIS IS AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY FOR AFFORDABLE LIVING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE DON'T NEED IT ALL IN ONE ROUND. THERE WERE PLACES THAT WILL COMMIT AND PLACES THAT DON'T WANT IT BUT WE ALL NEEDED. WE NEED IT SPREAD OUT IN OUR COUNTY. I HOPE YOU ALL WILL NOT DRAW THE BRIDGE UP SO THAT IT EXCLUDES TEACHERS, FIREFIGHTERS, SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES. I HOPE YOU WILL THINK ABOUT EVERYBODY GETTING TO LIVE IN OUR COUNTY THAT NEEDS TO WORK HERE. PEOPLE ARE LIVING HERE AND WORKING MORE THAN ONE JOB AND THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. I SEE A LOT OF ADVANTAGES. I THINK IT COULD HELP TRAFFIC. IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE FROM BRING CODE -- THAT IS GOOD FOR THE TRAFFIC PATTERN. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE FROM DEVAUL SO I THINK IT CAN BE A HELP FOR THE TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT I AM HEARING HERE BUT ANYWAY, YOU HAVE HEARD ME AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY AND I

HOPE WE DON'T MESS IT UP. >> I AM MICHELLE -- AND I LIVE IN HERITAGE LANDING. I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. I THINK A LOT OF THE DEBATE RIGHT NOW IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHETHER PEOPLE LIKE IT OR NOT. IT IS NECESSARY. CONSIDER THE IDEA THAT THIS SHOULD NOT BE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE AND IF THEY WANTED IN THEIR BACKYARD OR NOT. ST. JOHN'S COUNTY HAS EXCELLENT SCHOOLS AND THE INFLUXES BECAUSE OF EXCELLENT SCHOOLS. AFFORDABLE HOUSING WILL NOT BRING THE TEACHERS THAT WE NEED IF THEY DON'T HAVE

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SAFE COMPETITIVE SALARIES. MY KIDS GO TO SCHOOL HERE AND MY DAUGHTER IS IN A PORTABLE. MY SON HAS CLASSES IN A PORTABLES.

THE IDEA IS THAT 12 TEACHERS LEFT COIT CREEK NOT BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T LIVE HERE BUT BECAUSE OF SALARIES. THEY WENT TO DISTRICTS THAT GAVE THEM A SALARY INCREASE. SO SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BRING PEOPLE HERE. THEY HAVE GOT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A SALARY TO LIVE HERE. KIDS WALK ACROSS THE STREET AND THEY ALL WORK THERE. IF YOU GO IN ANY OF THE BUSINESSES LIKE PUBLIX. BUT CONSIDER THE INFRASTRUCTURE. WE LIVE IN HERITAGE LANDING AND MY COMMUTE TIME TO TAKE MY DAUGHTER TO SCHOOL IS 30 MINUTES. MY SON, IN THE MORNING, WHEN I TOOK HIM TO SCHOOL AT 7:30 AM FOR AN EOC, WHICH IS AMAZING, MY SON IS TAKING AP CLASSES AS A FRESHMAN. HE COULD GET COLLEGE CREDIT ALREADY BUT I HAD TO LEAVE AT 7:00 TO GET HIM THERE BY 7:25 AM AND THE DOORS CLOSED AT 7:30 AM. IT TOOK ME 25 MINUTES. WHEN I TRY TO PICK THEM UP AT IN THE AFTERNOON OR TAKE HIM TO SCHOOL IN THE MORNING WE BUDGET 45 MINUTES TO GO FIVE MILES. THERE IS GOING TO BE IMPROVEMENTS BUT THINK ABOUT RIGHT NOW. WE CANNOT ACCOMMODATE WHAT WE HAVE GOT.

I'M NOT SAYING STOP GROWTH OR THAT I AM AGAINST THIS BUT ADD SIDEWALKS SO THAT I CAN BIKE MY KIDS TO SCHOOL. ADD SIDEWALKS SO THAT THEY CAN GET TO --. WHEN I TAKE MY SON TO HIS HOME SWIM MEET IT TAKES ME 40 MINUTES TO GET TO THE SILVERLEAF POOL FOR A HOME SWIM MEET. PLEASE ADD SIDEWALKS IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT WE WON'T NEED BUS DRIVERS AND KIDS CAN RIDE THEIR BIKES. WORDS CREEK ACROSS THE STREET DOES NOT HAVE THOSE. RATHER THAN IMPROVING THE INTERSECTION CONSIDER THE SMALLER POINTS AND THINK ABOUT THE KIDS NOW.

>> I HAVE A CERTIFICATE FROM MY NEIGHBORS AND REQUEST

ADDITIONAL TIME. >> THAT HAD TO BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING.

>> OKAY. I DID NOT KNOW THAT. I AM ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT. AS OUR MY NEIGHBORS THAT ARE ON THIS LIST. LET ME TELL YOU A FEW THINGS. I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO REITERATE EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID BUT THERE ARE A FEW THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE BEEN TO EVERY ONE OF THESE MEETINGS WHERE DOMINION HAS PRESENTED. I WAS AT THE MEETING THAT YOU CAME TO, COMMISSIONER AND I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT AND IT JUST GETS BETTER AND BETTER. THESE PRESENTATIONS ON THIS MILLION-DOLLAR TEAM OVER HERE. IT JUST GETS BETTER AND BETTER. EVERY TIME THERE IS SOMETHING THEY PUT A SPIN ON IT. MESS ARCHER PUT A POSITIVE SPIN ON ANYTHING. I THINK SHE PUT A POSITIVE SPIN ON THE HURRICANE. SOMETHING IS GOING ON THERE BUT WE NEED TO WATCH THE CREDIBILITY OF THESE FOLKS.

THEY ARE TRYING TO COME IN HERE AND DO SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS ABOUT MONEY FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER AND DOMINION. A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS REAL QUICK. IF THIS IS APPROVED WE WILL HAVE AN INTERSECTION THERE AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE TRAFFIC JAM RIGHT WHERE IT GOES BACK DOWN TO TWO LANES. I HAVE BEEN IN TRANSPORTATION THE LAST 20 YEARS AND THAT IS BREAKS WELL BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO FUNCTION. I WAS INTERESTED TO HEAR THIS LADY TALKING ABOUT WE NEED PLACES FOR TEACHERS TO LIVE AND WHAT NOT. LET ME GIVE YOU A FEW STATISTIC AS. ST. JOHN'S COUNTY DEPUTIES, STARTING SALARY, $55,000. THE LIMIT IS $60,000. THAT DOES NOT COUNT HIS OVERTIME AND THAT IS STARTING SALARY SO YOU ARE NOT

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GOING TO GET SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES IN THERE. DEVAUL COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES, $55,000. A FIREFIGHTER STARTS AT $48,000.

HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW FIREFIGHTERS THAT THAT IS THEIR ONLY JOB. SO THEY ARE MAXED OUT OVER $60,000. TEACHERS, I SAW ONE THING THERE. $47,000 AND THAT IS FOR NINE MONTHS WORTH.

CAN YOU MAKE $12,000 MORE DURING THE SUMMER? I IMAGINE SO SO THEY ARE OUT. THIS IS NOT FOR THEM. THE BOTTOM LINE, HALF OF THESE PEOPLE MAKE TOO MUCH MONEY TO LIVE HERE. THIS IS

ABOUT PROJECT. >> THANK YOU COUGH SYRUP. --

THANK YOU, SIR. >> I AM JOE MCINERNEY ANY -- AND I DO HAVE SOME SLIDES HERE. WE HAVE PUBLISH THE ATTAINABLE HOUSING REPORT. THEY HAD TOLD US ALL THAT THE LARGE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE HAVE AN 11,000 UNIT DEFICIT FOR ESSENTIAL WORKERS INTO ARE THOSE ESSENTIAL WORKERS? THEY ARE WHO WE ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT. TEACHERS, NURSES, HOSPITALITY.

WHAT ARE THEIR ANNUAL SALARIES? THE CHAMBER TELLS US WHAT THEY ARE AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE $98,000 -- AND THE AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME, A TEACHER IS THAT 49% AND A NURSE AND MANUFACTURING AT 66% AND THOSE THAT SERVE US AT THE TABLES ARE 29% AND 56% ARE LOW ONE FOR -- LAW ENFORCEMENT. WELL BELOW AMI. THE AVERAGE COST OF A ONE-BEDROOM IS $1623. 30% OF INCOME ONLY NURSES AND MANUFACTURING WOULD QUALIFY HERE AND THAT IS JUST ONE PERSON. NOT KIDS. THEY NEED MORE THAN A ONE BEDROOM. AT 30% OF INCOME IS CONSIDERED A HOUSING EXPENSE. IF YOU SPEND MORE THAN THAT YOU ARE COST BURDENED AND, LOOK AT THIS. THE FLORIDA HOUSING CLEARING OFF SAYS THAT WITH THE AMI WE HAVE 7000 COST BURDENED HOUSEHOLDS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. OVER 18,000 COST BURDENED HOUSEHOLDS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. WE NEED THIS HOUSING. WE NEED TO SERVE OUR ESSENTIAL WORKERS. WE ARE BEING OFFERED 60% AMI AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN OFFERED THAT BEFORE. WE ARE BEING OFFERED 30 YEARS AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT BEFORE. WE NEED THIS HOUSING.

THESE ESSENTIAL WORKERS NEED THIS HOUSING. WHO IS PROVIDING IT? DID MANY AND, THE PRESERVE AT WARDS CREEK. WE NEED THIS HOUSING. PLEASE APPROVE THE PRESERVE AT WARDS CREEK TO SERVE OUR ESSENTIAL WORKERS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. I AM BILL LAZARD WITH -- PARTNERSHIP. I RUN A NONPROFIT THAT I STARTED IN 1995. ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO TO WORK ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE SEEN -- BUT THE OVERWHELMING PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT PROJECTS IN ST. JOHN'S HAVE MOVED HERE SINCE THEN. ONE THING THAT IS CRITICAL, AND I AM IMPRESSED WITH WHAT DOMINIUM IS OFFERING, YOU CAN'T DO AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING IF YOU DON'T HAVE WATER AND SEWER AVAILABLE AND WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER SITE LIKE THIS THAT HAS THIS AVAILABLE WITH LAND PRICES.

THAT IS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE AND THAT IS WHY NOBODY ELSE IS DOING IT. THERE IS NOTHING ELSE ON THE PLANNING BOOKS OR SOMEONE SAYING LET'S BUILD HOUSING IF WE ARE GOING TO RENT IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO MOW THE LAWNS AND THOSE THAT WORK AT DOCTORS OFFICES. IF YOU SUPPORT PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THEY HAD PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT MAKING $20 PER HOUR BUT THAT THAT IS

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THE MAX THAT DOMINIUM IS TALKING ABOUT . THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE HELPED WILL BE SINGLE PARENTS. WHO I TELL EVERY DAY, LEAVE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED IN THIS COMMUNITY AND IT HAS BEEN GETTING WORSE. WE HAVE LEGACY FAMILY THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 200 OR 300 YEARS AND THEY SAID THAT THERE KIDS CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED AND IT IS A PROJECT. IT IS A SMALL STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND I DON'T KNOW WHY EVERYBODY IS ASSUMING THAT WE ARE GOING TO IMPORT PEOPLE TO MOVE HERE. I WOULD LOVE TO SAY IT IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE AND WORK HERE. A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING ON, I THINK THOSE PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE A SHORTER COMMUTE BECAUSE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FIND A PLACE TO LIVE THAT IS CLOSER TO WHERE THEY ARE WORKING WHETHER IT IS AT A SCHOOL OR THE ACE HARDWARE OR ANYWHERE ELSE. OUR BIGGEST TRAFFIC PROBLEM IS BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS A FOCUS OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS. A LARGE PORTION OF OUR EDUCATION WORKFORCE, THEY CLOG UP US-1 EVERY DAY BUT THAT IS WHERE THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOMES OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS BECAUSE THEY CAN BUY MORE HOUSE DOWN THERE THEN THEY CAN HEAR. WE NEED IT. IT JOHN DELANEY YEARS AGO SAID ECONOMIC OF ALLOTMENTS STOPS AT THE END OF A SEWER LINE AND SODAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YOU CAN'T HOLD IT IF YOU DON'T HAVE WATER AND SEWER. IT IS HERE AND IT IS A GREAT PROJECT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE YOU WOULD DO IT IF NOT HERE.

>> MY NAME IS SHANNON AND MY ADDRESS IS ON FILE AND I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. I THINK IT WILL BE A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I HAVE LIVED HERE 20 YEARS AND THEY RAISED MY BOYS HERE. I WOULD'VE LOVED IF THE DRAWBRIDGE WAS PULLED UP 20 YEARS AGO WHEN I MOVED HERE BUT , THAT HORSE HAS LEFT THE BARN. WE HAVE DEVELOPED AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. THE POPULATION GROWTH IN FLORIDA IS ASTRONOMICAL. I AGREED THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD BE THOUGHTFUL IN WHAT IT APPROVES AND WHAT IT DOES NOT APPROVE. BUT ONE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO DESTROY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WILL NOT BE THE REASON THAT THE SCHOOLS WILL CRUMBLE OR WHY PEOPLE CAN'T GET TO WORK ON TIME. I AGREE WITH PEOPLE TALKING TODAY THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS IMPORTANT. WE HAVE OUTGROWN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE BUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. UNIDO WORKFORCE THAT CAN LIVE NEAR WHERE IT WORKS AND IF YOU DON'T CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WILL HAPPEN. THE DEPARTMENT WILL OFFER POSITIONS TO PEOPLE BUT THEN THEY TURN THEM DOWN BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND PLACES TO WORK HERE AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT FIREFIGHTERS AND TEACHERS. WE NEED DAYCARE PROVIDERS AND ALL OF THESE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE AND THAT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE FOR ANY OF US. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE COMMISSION THINK HOLISTICALLY ABOUT AFFORDALE HOUSING AND LISTENING TO WHAT I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE SAY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET MORE INTENTIONAL PLANS SO THAT WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER TOWARDS AND WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

MY KIDS CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. I WANT MY KIDS TO BE ABLE TO LIVE HERE AND RIGHT NOW MY SON IS A FIREMAN IN CLAY COUNTY BECAUSE HE CANNOT AFFORD ST. JOHNS COUNTY . HE'S GOING TO STAY THERE BECAUSE HE LOVES IT. I WOULD REALLY PREFER IF WE HAD HOUSING THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. IT IS RECOGNIZING ALL OF THE SERVICES THAT I NEED IN MY DAY TO DAY LIFE. I WANT WORKERS TO BE RELIABLE AND THOSE BUSINESSES TO HAVE SUSTAINABLE WORKFORCES. HAVING SERVED ON THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR MANY YEARS I AM GENUINELY NOT SURE HOW LONG, -- SOMETHING THAT HAS COME UP SINCE THE DAY I JOINED THE COUNCIL IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT IS ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES ALL THE TIME. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO

SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM --. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO TO GO THROUGH THIS

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PROCESS. IS A FATHER OF THREE YOUNG CHILDREN AND A BUSINESS OWNER AND BEING ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY, I KNOW A LOT OF YOU ARE DOING THE SAME AND YOU TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD. I HAVE A BUSINESS, A DISTRIBUTION COMPANY AND I AM AN EMPLOYER HERE. SO I DO HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE TO COMMUTE INTO ST.

JOHNS COUNTY AND I EXPERIENCE THAT AND SAY THAT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING. WE ALSO HAVE A VISTA COMMUNITY FOUNDATION WHERE WE SUPPORT NONPROFITS LIKE ST. JOHNS COUNTY HOUSING PARTNERSHIP AND WE ARE ENGAGED AND PASSIONATE ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS I KNOW ANY OF YOU ARE. THIS PROJECT, I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH DOMINIUM IS A PRIVATE SECTOR BUSINESS OWNER. I FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF ENGAGING THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY. WHETHER IT IS BUSINESS OWNERS OR COMMUNITY MEMBERS OR ELECTED OFFICIALS. AS WELL AS PRIVATE CITIZENS.

THEY ARE A FOR PROFIT BUSINESS AND I DON'T THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE SHYING AWAY FROM BUT THEY ARE BRINGING US SOLUTIONS THAT IT SEEMS WOULD BE SUITABLE IN THE PRIMARY OBJECTION I HAVE HEARD IS LOCATION, WHICH I CAN UNDERSTAND BUT AS FAR AS THE PROJECT IN THE COMPANY AND WHAT THEY ARE WILLING TO INVEST IN WHAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR AS FAR AS IMPROVEMENTS IT SEEMS LIKE THEY HAVE STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE. I WILL BE A LITTLE ANECDOTAL. I WAS AT A GAS STATION RECENTLY AND THERE WAS A LONG LINE FORMING BEHIND US AND WE WERE JUST GETTING SLOW SHE'S AFTER SCHOOL. I JUST ASKED, ARE YOU GUYS BUSY? AS AND THE LADY THAT WAS WORKING THERE SAID I ONLY WORK HERE ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS BUT MY FULL-TIME JOB IS MANAGING THIS BUSINESS BUT I LIVE WITH MY ADULT SON WHO ALSO WORKS FULL TIME AND WE HAVE TO BE ROOMMATES SO THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. SHE SAYS I FEEL LIKE SHE'S GOING TO WORK UNTIL SHE'S 80 AND IT'S JUST NOT AFFORDABLE AND SHE DOES NOT SEE THAT CHANGING. I'M NOT ASKING US TO BE THE SOLUTION THAT FIXES INFLATION BUT ON THIS ISSUE I FEEL LIKE THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO HERE.

I DID NOT ASK FOR THAT INFORMATION BUT AS THE LINE WAS FORMING, I REALIZED THAT IT IS BROADER THAN OUR ESSENTIAL WORKERS. I DO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THIS PROJECT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. I AM REPRESENTING MYSELF AND COMMUNITY ADVOCATES FOR RACIAL EQUITY. WE DESPERATELY NEED DOMINIUM IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO HELP US DEVELOP OUR HOUSING CRISIS. THEY PROVIDE HOUSING IN THE 50-80% AMI RANGE BUT SOME CAN ONLY PROVIDE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF HOUSING. THIS IS INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO DO IN AN EXPENSIVE COUNTY LIKE ST. JOHNS COUNTY UNLESS THERE IS INFRASTRUCTURE OR OTHER ASSISTANCE. THAT IS WHY WE WILL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE COUNTY PROVIDING ASSISTANCE LIKE WAIVER OF IMPACT FEES FOR DEVELOPERS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING -- . OUR PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITIES HAVE ACCESS TO CONSIDERABLE FUNDING THAT ALLOW THEM TO WORK WITH -- WITH VERY LOW AND EXTREMELY LOW INCOMES. ESTABLISHING -- REMAINS A CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER DAY. WE NEED TO THINK STRATEGICALLY ABOUT WHERE AND WHAT KIND OF HOUSING WE WOULD AUTHORIZE. THIS IS ESSENTIAL FOR OUR WORKFORCE. AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS IN THE INTEREST OF RESIDENTS. OUR NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS GREAT. THE PRESERVE AT WARDS CREEK WILL BE IN THE NORTHWEST PART OF THE COUNTY, WHERE IT IS INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT FOR OUR WORKFORCE TO FIND AFFORDABLE RENT. TRADE-OFFS ARE ESSENTIAL TO ALLOW OUR WORKERS TO LIVE CLOSER TO WHERE THEY WORK. DOMINIUM IS A NATIONALLY

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RECOGNIZED DEVELOPER. THEY ARE COMMITTED TO IMPROVING AREA ROADS TO AVOID EXISTING BOTTLENECKS. THEY ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING 288 UNITS AVAILABLE -- AND KEEPING THEM AFFORDABLE FOR 30 YEARS AND THE SUCCEEDS OF FEDERAL AND LOCAL REQUIREMENTS. A MESS FREQUENTLY CITED IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING LOWERS PROPERTY VALUES. STUDIES NATIONWIDE HAVE SHOWN THAT ATTRACTIVE WELL-MANAGED AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS LIKE THOSE DEVELOPED BY DOMINION CAN INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES IN ADDITION TO IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS. OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS MORE PROJECTS LIKE THE PRESERVE AT WARDS CREEK. PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING. APPROVE THE

PRESERVE AT WARDS CREEK. >> I AM BETH READING FROM JACKSONVILLE. I HAVE BEEN A DEVELOPER IN THIS COMMUNITY SINCE 1998 AND IT DOES BOTHER ME SOMEWHAT TO HEAR PEOPLE SPEAKING AGAINST IT NOT REALIZING THE THEY ARE PART OF WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING ABOUT. WHEN I WAS YOUNGER I GREW UP IN NAVY HOUSING AND I WAS IN NORFOLK VIRGINIA AND THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY HAD SIGNS UP THAT SAID SAILORS KEEP OFF THE GRASS. SO, WE WERE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BECAUSE WE WERE POOR AND THAT WAS VERY DISHEARTENING. MY MOTHER RAISED US TO HAVE HONESTY, INTEGRITY , KINDNESS AND DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR THE RIGHT REASON. NOT BEING WEALTHY DOES NOT MAKE YOU A CRIMINAL OR A BED PERSON. JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID OF SOMETHING DOES NOT MAKE IT REAL OR TRUE. I HAVE BEEN LIVING IN MY HOME FOR 20 YEARS. MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND MANY OTHERS NEAR ME HAVE NOT HAD ANY NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON HOME VALUES OR CRIME NEAR US. JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID OF SOMETHING DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE. YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE SILVERLEAF BECAUSE THEY LITERALLY HAVE APARTMENTS APPROVED RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS. IF YOU ARE AFRAID OF APARTMENTS, THEY ARE ALREADY COMING. I AM JUST CURIOUS WHY IS IT OKAY THAT EVERYONE COMPLAINS ABOUT TRAFFIC BUT THEN THEY TURN AROUND AND SAY LET THE WORKERS TRAVEL AN HOUR AND THEY HAVE NOT EARNED A PLACE HERE. YOU ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT 20 MINUTES BUT YOU WANT THE WORKER THAT SERVES YOU EVERY DAY TO TRAVEL ONE HOUR TO COME GIVE YOU A HAMBURGER? THAT IS NOT RIGHT. PEOPLE SAY THEY SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT IT IS ALWAYS IN THE WRONG PLACE. THE MESSAGE THAT WE ARE GIVING FROM THIS COMMUNITY IS THAT WE DON'T WANT YOUR KIND HERE. I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT BY APPROVING THIS PROJECT TODAY AND BY SHOWING THAT THERE IS NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF AND BY GIVING WORKERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK CLOSE TO WHERE THEY LIVE AND NOT TO HAVE TO HAVE AN HOUR COMMUTE. TYPICALLY PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THAT SALARY RANGE DON'T DRIVE NEW CARS. LET'S SHOW A LITTLE BIT OF KINDNESS TO THESE FOLKS AND GIVE THEM A PLACE TO LIVE THAT THEY CAN AFFORD AND THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORK OVERTIME OR TWO JOBS JUST TO HAVE A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD. THANK YOU.

>> I AM HEIDI RICE. 2452 DIN STREET . I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT WE SEEM TO HAVE BEEN ON TWO TEAMS PRESENTING ONE AFTER THE OTHER IN THE SAME VEIN. ONE IS FOR AND ONE IS AGAINST. IT IS JUST INTERESTING. I HOPE THAT IN YOUR CONSIDERATION THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER ALL IT HAS BEEN SAID HERE TODAY. THERE WAS A LOT OF CONS BUT SOME OF IT WAS LEGITIMATE. I MOVED HERE FROM SOUTH FLORIDA WHERE IT WAS ROUTINE FOR ME TO DRIVE ONE HOUR EACH WAY TO WORK. I GOT USED TO IT. I DID OTHER THINGS.

I TURNED ON THE RADIO AND LISTENED TO STUFF. WHATEVER.

YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE DONE IF ONE WANTS TO AND I BET A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE WOULD MUCH RATHER COMMUTE FROM A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE THAN FROM A NEARBY APARTMENT. THAT IS SOMETHING ALSO TO CONSIDER. ONE FINAL THING IS THAT WITH THE INCOME

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RESTRICTIONS, IF YOU HAVE TWO WORKING PARENTS, THEY ARE GOING TO BE WAY OVER THE INCOME RESTRICTIONS SO, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY TO MODIFY THAT BUT I THINK IT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE MARRIED COUPLES WHO LET'S SAY, MAYBE A SHERIFF AND A PERSON THAT WORKS AT A HOSPITAL AND THEY WILL BE OVER IT. THAT WILL KNOCK A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE OUT THAT WE WANT TO COME HERE. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM ED SLAVEN. SHOULD THIS MIGHT BE RED OR GREEN? ANYWAY, DO YOU KNOW WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY? ALAN ROBERTS. ALLEN AND CAMILLA ROBERTS OWN BULL PASTURE LLC.

ALAN ROBERTS IS A FORMER COUNTY COMMISSIONER. WHEN I-95 WAS ROUTED HE AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE MADE A LOT OF MONEY. GARY HART TOLD HIS STAFF THAT WHEN HE BECAME A FRESHMAN SENATOR THAT THEY SHOULD ASK THEMSELVES ON ANY LEGISLATIVE PROPOSAL, IS IT BASED ON NEED OR GREED? IS HE HERE? I GUESS NOT. HE DOESN'T NEED TO BE HERE. THE APPLICANT DID NOT HAVE ANY WITNESSES SWORN IN. WE ARE STILL HAVING ZONING ERRORS WHERE NO TESTIMONY IS INTRODUCED. I REALIZED THE ATTORNEY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SWORN IN BUT THERE IS NO REASON WE DID NOT SWEAR IN THOSE WITNESSES AND I CALL ON THE COMMISSION, DON'T EVER DO THAT AGAIN. I CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO A CASE A GENTLEMAN SPOKE ABOUT THIS MORNING. SUSAN EYELESS AND OTHER NAMED PLAINTIFFS VERSUS THIS DEVELOPER IN HENNEPIN COUNTY, MINNESOTA COURT. THIS DEVELOPER TOOK MONEY FROM A LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO COMPLY WITH RULES LIKE NOT CHARGING FOR PARKING BUT THEN THEY CHARGE PEOPLE FOR PARKING IN MINNESOTA AT AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPLEX. A JUDGE IN MINNESOTA HAS CERTIFIED A CLASS ACTION AND PERHAPS COUNSEL CAN TELL US WHAT THEY LEARNED IN THEIR RESEARCH BECAUSE WE DON'T DO ANY BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS BECAUSE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE STAFF REPORT. THE FACT THAT THIS LOW-INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPER RIPPED OFF THEIR CLIENTS , DOUBLE DIPPING, CHARGE PEOPLE FOR PARKING WHEN IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FREE UNDER FEDERAL LAW. I THINK WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE NEED TO COMPLY WITH THE FAIR HOUSING ACT AND WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY. I CALL UPON ANY ONE OF THE THREE OF YOU WHO VOTED AGAINST PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY TO PUT THIS ON THE NEXT AGENDA BECAUSE WITH THE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY, WE CAN ADDRESS THESE NEEDS AND STOP BEATING AROUND THE BUSH.

THIS IS NOT YOUR FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD NONPROFIT. THANK

YOU. >> CLIFF ROBERTS. I HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH ALL OF YOU VIA EMAIL OR TELEPHONE CALL SO, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO FOLLOW THAT COMMUNICATION. I AM GOING TO BE BRIEF. THIS NOT IN MY BACKYARD DEAL, MY BACKYARD IS FULL. IF YOU HAVE ROOM IN YOUR BACKYARD, GO AHEAD AND DO IT. THERE ARE A LOT OF AREAS IN THIS COUNTY THAT I DROPPED THROUGH DRIVE-THROUGH. THERE ARE SOME LOWER INCOME HOUSING NEIGHBORHOODS IN THESE AREAS THAT HAVE LAND AROUND IT. THERE IS OPPORTUNITIES FOR THESE FOLKS TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE BEING PROPOSED AND LET'S FIND SPOTS WERE A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS CAN ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. HERE, WHERE WE ARE AT, WE DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR MORE HOUSES. WE HAVE SILVERLEAF OVER HERE AND THESE OR OTHER ESTABLISHED COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE A LITTLE CHUNK OF FARMLAND THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO CRAM THESE BUILDINGS IN AND IT WILL NOT WORK. THIS TRAFFIC PLAN IS

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RIDICULOUS. I AM NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER BUT I DRIVE A LOT. I DRIVE IN A LOT OF CITIES AND THESE FOUR LANES, THIS IS GREAT. THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO DRIVE AN HOUR, I'M SORRY THAT YOU HAVE TO DRIVE AN HOUR TO GET TO YOUR JOB. YOU HAVE A JOB, A CAR, AND THE COMMUTE. ALMOST EVERYBODY IN HERE HAS HAD THAT TO GET TO WORK. TO ME, THAT IS NOT OUTRAGEOUS. YOU HAVE A JOB, YOU DRIVE TO IT, YOU GO HOME. MY MAIN THING IS PEOPLE COME UP AND SAY, THESE PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING AND THEY ARE FEARFUL AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE. IN THIS INSTANCE THE BACKYARD IS FULL. SO, LET'S GO FIND ANOTHER BACKYARD AND MAKE THIS WORK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> CHECK -- AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO MY HISTORY. I WORKED FOUR JOBS WHEN I GET OUT OF SCHOOL JUST SO I COULD AFFORD A ONE-BEDROOM BUT THAT IS NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. 126 PEOPLE SHOWED UP FOR THE MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. SAME SIZE GROUP IN JANUARY. THEY ALL HAVE CONCERNS AND WE HAVE HEARD THEM ALL TONIGHT. HERE IS A MAJOR CONCERN. IS THIS COMPANY COMPATIBLE TO ST. JOHN'S COUNTY? YOU HEARD IT EARLIER, THERE ARE LAWS SO -- LAWSUITS. THE DOJ INVESTIGATION, IS NOT COMPATIBLE? WE ARE LOOKING AT SCHOOLS. SCHOOLS IN THE AREA AND THE FUTURE SCHOOL, THERE IS NO FUNDING YET. WE ARE GOING TO 2028 WHEN THEY WILL OPEN UP THEIR FIRST DOOR. IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE AS FAR AS SCHOOLS ARE CONCERNED. WHEN YOU HAVE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX BEING BUILT HERE AND ONE THAT IS ALREADY OPENED UP HERE, THEN YOU HAVE SILVERLEAF HERE THAT IS IN THE PROCESS OF --. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC. WE WILL HAVE A GREAT TIME AND RIGHT NOW THE EXPRESSWAY ENDS IN 2025, IT ENDS AT 16 A AND PEOPLE WILL BE GETTING OFF OF THEIR AND THAT TRAFFIC, AS GREAT AS THAT EXPRESSWAY WOULD BE, 2030 IS THE ESTIMATED TIME. THERE IS A BACKLOG BECAUSE OF THE BRIDGE BUT ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC WILL BE HITTING THAT AREA. THIS IS DIRECTLY FROM THE DOD. THEY CAME UP WITH A GREAT PLAN AND I AM SURPRISED THAT FLORIDA D.O.T. AGREED TO THIS. EVER WHERE AROUND THAT AREA THERE ARE DECELERATION LANES BUT THERE ARE NO DECELERATION LANES GOING INTO THAT AREA. IS A COMPATIBLE FOR SENIOR CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT FACILITY? IT IS NOT. IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE. I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK A LITTLE WAYS. MAY BE ABOUT A DECADE. REMEMBER, THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS BEING PRESENTED AND PUT IN A AND A LOT OF US THAT LIVED IN THE AREA DID NOT WANT IT BECAUSE IT WOULD START THE FLOW OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS AND WAREHOUSING AND MORE CARS AND TRAFFIC AND LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN ARBOR MILLS WAS APPROVED AND SHORTLY AFTER THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS THEN WE HAD -- OAKS PUT IN.

WHEN THOSE BIG PROPERTIES WERE BEING PUT IN, THAT IS WHEN THE SCHOOL BOARD HAD TO REZONE BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE

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GOING DOWN TO WARDS CREEK. THAT IS WHEN THEY HAD -- THAT WAS BUILT DOWN BY TIMBERLAND. SO, WHO IS AT FAULT HERE? IS IT BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS PUT IN YEARS BEFORE. IT IS A HARD DECISION TO MAKE. THAT GOT DENIED. I THINK ON THE SAME AGENDA, ON THAT DAY OR MONTH, THERE WERE THE COTTAGES AT ST.

JOHN'S THAT WANTED TO PUT IN 232 DWELLINGS RIGHT ON 16 JUST DOWN FROM WHERE ALL OF THE RESTAURANTS AND CHILDCARE IS.

THAT GOT DENIED. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS ALSO ON THE HOUSING ELEMENT IN THE AGENDA. OBJECTIVE C 1.1. IT SAYS THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHALL CONTINUE TO SUPPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR VERY LOW, LOW , AND MODERATE INCOME HOMES AND SPECIAL NEEDS HOUSEHOLDS TO IMPLEMENT NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS. OKAY. WITH THIS, WITH THIS PROJECT, IS THIS FOR LOW INCOME? IS IT FOR VERY LOW INCOME? OR IS IT FOR THE MEDIUM LOW INCOME? IN THAT WAY MAYBE IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THE LOW LOW INCOME PERSONNEL. SINCE THE COMPANY DOES NOT OWN THE LAND, THAT IS HOW THEY CAN DUMP THE $7 MILLION INTO THAT LITTLE STRETCH OF ROAD TO GET IT

IMPROVED. THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> OKAY. >> THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS WE WANT TO ADDRESS. FIRST ON THE SCHOOL SITUATION WE DID RECEIVE AN LETTER FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THERE IS CAPACITY FOR ELEMENTARY AND WE EXPECT PROPORTIONATE SHARE WOULD BE LESS THAN OUR IMPACT FEE. ALSO, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT RECENTLY UNVEILED THEIR FIVE-YEAR WORK PROGRAM THAT INCLUDES SCHOOLS PLANNED INCLUDING SCHOOLS BY THE 2008 -- . I WANTED TO ASK IF WE COULD DISCUSS THE BENEFITS OF THE ROAD WIDENING BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN QUESTION ABOUT DOES A SHORTER SECTION OF THE FOUR-LANE ROAD HELP TRAFFIC

FLOW THROUGH AN INTERSECTION. >> IF POSSIBLE, CAN WE GET THE OVERALL PRESENTATION SLIDE UP SHOWING THE IMPROVEMENTS?

PERFECT. >> CERTAINLY ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE FROM A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STANDPOINT , AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE HERE IS THE SIGNAL AND SET BEING THE CHOKE POINT SO IF WE HAVE A LANE THAT GOES THROUGH THE LANE HEADED ONLY GETS GREEN TIME 50% OF THE TIME IT TAKES AWAY HALF THE CAPACITY OF THAT LANE. THAT IS EFFECTIVELY WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO HERE. WEIRD DOUBLING THE THROUGH PIT -- THROUGHPUT OF THE THROUGH LANES AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH D.O.T.

TO COMPLY WITH THEIR STANDARDS FOR WHAT IS A SAFE AND ADEQUATE MERGE DISTANCE. ON THE COUNTY ROAD 16 SIDE WE HAVE ALMOST 4/10 OF A MILE OF TWO LANES THAT MERGE INTO ONE AND THEN ON

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THE 16 SIDE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OVER 3/10 OF A MILE OF THOSE FULL TWO LANES AND MERGE AREA TO COMPLY WITH THE D.O.T.

DESIGN STANDARDS. WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED IS BEING ABLE TO GET TWICE AS MANY CARDS THROUGH THE SIGNAL, THEY DO HAVE ADEQUATE SPACE MEETING THOSE DESIGN STANDARDS TO MERGE BACK IN TOGETHER SO, IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF THE SAME SITUATION WE ARE SEEING AT THE OTHER END OF -- AND 16. I KNOW THAT STATE ROUTE 16 WAS WIDENED BUT THEY WERE NOT REQUIRED TO TAKE THOSE THROUGH LANES THROUGH THE INTERSECTION SO THAT HAS BEEN PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT THE AT THE I GP AND 16 INTERSECTION.

THE COUNTY IS MAXIMIZING THOSE TURN AND THROUGH LANES AT THE INTERSECTION AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO THE SAME THING.

ESSENTIALLY, EARLIER AND AHEAD OF THE SAME ISSUE GETTING TO THAT INTERSECTION SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT ADDITIONAL

INFORMATION. >> I GUESS I WILL GO NEXT. I WANTED TO ADDRESS THREE SPECIFIC THINGS. THE FIRST THING IS, THIS PROJECT, AND I DID NOT TALK ABOUT IT MUCH IN THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE I HAVE SHOWN PHOTOS. BUT THIS IS A FULLY AND MONETIZED PROJECT SO WE ARE ADHERING TO THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS, OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS. WE HAVE A WALKING PATH AROUND THE RETENTION POND. WE ARE ADDING TREES AND THERE WILL BE AN EXERCISE FACILITY IN ADDITION TO A FULLY FUNCTIONING CLUBHOUSE AND ADEQUATE PARKING.

EVERYTHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF A MARKER COMMUNITY. THAT TRANSLATES INTO A CONVERSATION . THIS IS NOT OUR FIRST PROJECT IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE INFLATION AND INTEREST RATES ARE RISING IT TOOK US A MINUTE TO GET A DEAL CLOSED SO THAT WE COULD PERFORM A MUCH-NEEDED RENOVATION. WE DID NOT CAUSE THE ISSUES ON THAT PROJECT AND WE DID NOT CAUSE THE MAINTENANCE DEFERRAL. WE STEPPED IN AND WE ARE PERFORMING A MUCH-NEEDED RENOVATION TO PRESERVE THE QUALITY OF THE UNITS. I DON'T OFTEN TIMES GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT. IT IS SO HARD TO DO AFFORDABLE DEALS ALL OVER THE STATE AND AROUND THE COUNTRY. DOING AFFORDABLE DEALS IS INCREDIBLY RARE BUT WE BELIEVE WE ARE THE RIGHT PERSON TO DO THIS WORK AND WE CAN CAN DO THINGS THAT OTHER DEVELOPERS CANNOT, INCLUSIVE OF WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING AS FAR AS TRAFFIC MITIGATION. I JUST WANT TO STRESS THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE AFFORDABLE FOR 30 YEARS AND WE WILL BE HOUSING HOUSEHOLDS THAT MAY NOT BE YOUR STANDARD TWO PARENT HOUSEHOLD. WHAT OUR PROJECT DOES IS IT COMES IN AND IT SOLVES A SOLUTION ENDED IS ONE THAT IS NOT ASKING FOR EXTRA FAVORS TO GET IT DONE SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT BASED ON WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMMENTS AND SUCH BUT WE ARE -- AND WE KNOW HOW TO DO THIS WORK WELL AND WE KNOW HOW TO MANAGE THESE PROPERTIES INCREDIBLY WELL FOR THE LONG RUN AS WELL.

>> WITH THAT WE WILL TRY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >> CONTESSA, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT A STATEMENT THAT YOU JUST MADE. YOU SAID A SINGLE PARENT WITH TWO KIDS IS ON AVERAGE WHO WE ARE HOUSING. BUT WE ARE SEEING A CALCULATION WHERE THERE ARE 46 CHILDREN PROJECTED TO COME OUT OF THIS COMMUNITY. HOW ARE WE GETTING TO THIS 46 CHILDREN AND ISN'T IT POSSIBLE THAT THE CALCULATION IS WRONG GIVEN THE FACT THAT SINGLE PARENTS WITH TWO KIDS IS ON AVERAGE -- HOUSING? SUSPECT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE COUNTY WORK TOGETHER ON YOUR ADOPTED PLAN OF SCHOOL CONCURRENCY.

THEY TRIED TO ESTIMATE THE NUMBER OF SCHOOLCHILDREN COMING FROM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AS WELL AS APARTMENTS. THE SAME IS TRUE OF YOUR TRAFFIC. IF YOU HAVE STANDARD ESTIMATES AS TO

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THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT WOULD COME FROM A RESTAURANT OR A SHOPPING CENTER AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TRACKS -- FROM A SERVICE AREA AS WELL AS MULTI FAMILY FROM A CONCURRENCY SERVICE AREA AND WE USED THE STANDARD RATES THAT ARE APPLIED TO ALL MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS AREA AND TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT WOULD TO TREAT THIS DEVELOPMENT DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHERS. THOSE NUMBERS ARE SIMPLY WHAT YOU USE BECAUSE THEY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SEVERAL THINGS. ONE IS A PERIOD OF TIME THAT A PERSON IS A PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENT IS RELATIVELY SHORT IN THEIR LIFE AND IT IS RELATIVELY LONG FOR YOU AND ME BECAUSE WE HAVE KIDS WHO DOUBLE THAT IN TERMS OF LIFE EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE A LOT OF OLDER PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN APARTMENTS AND THAT AFFECTS THE NUMBERS BUT AGAIN, IT IS THE ADOPTED RATE THAT LOOKS OF THE CAPACITIES AND IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THAT NOT EVERYTHING -- IT IS AN AVERAGE AND IT IS

UPDATED REGULARLY. >> IT'S OKAY. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. I THINK, WITH ME, I AM FROM FLORIDA. I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE. I THINK I HAVE A HIRED TOLERANCE FOR AFFORDABLE BUT IF YOU ARE NOT FROM FLORIDA AND YOU MOVE HERE, IT IS SHOCKING TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION.

>> THE FIVE-YEAR WORK PROGRAM THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OVER THE LAST MONTH, THEIR GOAL IS TO GET TO A 1% RATE. I WAS LEARNING THIS DURING THE DISCUSSION THAT THERE IS A PLANNED -- PLAN TO PHASE OUT OF AFFORDABLE .

>> WE MAY HAVE THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION. WE , COMMISSIONER DEAN AND THE BOARD AT 2018 RAISED THE IMPACT FEES . DO YOU KNOW IF THAT EXTENDS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT?

>> I WILL OPEN THIS UP TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS BUT MY

OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS, >> NOT AS A THEY MAY BE, BUT WE ARE GOING THROUGH A CONSULTANT. THEY MAY BE CLOSE TO THAT COP BUT, THE SCHOOL BOARD DOES NOT DO THE SAME TYPES OF CALCULATIONS THAT WE DO FOR SCHOOL CONCURRENCY AND I KNOW IT IS BASED ON MEETING THEM WHERE THEY ARE AT IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS. IT CAN VARY SO I CAN'T REALLY EXACTLY TALK TO IF IT IS IN THE STATUTE MAXIMUM SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA INFORMATION.

>> I HAVE BEEN SITTING UP HERE AND I HAVEN'T EATEN SINCE YESTERDAY MORNING. I NEED TO EAT SOON BUT, THE PROCESS IS DIFFERENT FOR CALCULATING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT SO YOU HAVE TO CALCULATE THE IMPACT FEES?

>> YES. THE SCHOOL BOARD KIND OF FOLLOWS ON THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE PROCESS. WE HAVE A VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD CALCULATION SO TO SPEAK AND THE SCHOOL BOARD IS MORE ROBUST AND COMPLETE LOOKING AT THE RATES THAT THEY HAVE AND WHERE THE SCHOOLS MAY HOUSE THOSE STUDENTS. THE SCHOOL DOES REDISTRICTING AND THEIR PROCESS IS JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED THAN OURS. IT IS BASED OFF OF WHAT THEY HAVE AT THE TIME AND THEIR SNAPSHOT OF WHERE YOUR GENERATION WILL BE GOING ON WITH THOSE KIDS WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH IN THAT DEVELOPMENT. FAR MORE ROBUST .

>> MY FINAL THOUGHTS, WHEN YOU SAY UPFRONT ROADS, THAT WOULD CURE A LOT OF THE ILLS. IF WE HAD UPFRONT ROADS FOR ALL THE DEVELOPERS ALONG THAT ROAD WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE GOTTEN OURSELVES INTO A LOT OF

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ISSUES HISTORICALLY OVER THE LAST 25 OR 30 YEARS FROM DEVELOPERS WHO SORT OF GAVE THE COMMISSION AT THE TIME A PAY-AS-YOU-GO GAME PLAN AND IT JUST DID NOT WORK OUT THAT WAY.

I LOVE HAVING UPFRONT ROADS . THIS IS NOT JUST BASED ON THE CURRENT ZONING BUT ON THE FUTURE LAND USE PATH.

ESPECIALLY AS WE HEAD INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE WHICH IS AN ONGOING ISSUE. I'M NOT CONVINCED THIS IS COMPATIBLE. I WAS SORT OF MOVED BY, NOT IN MY BACKYARD BUT MY BACKYARD IS FULL COMMENT. I'M NOT SURE THAT IS NECESSARILY MY EXACT THOUGHT BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS COMPELLING. COMPATIBILITY HAS BEEN MY CONCERN SINCE I LEARNED ABOUT THE PROJECT AND DOES I AM SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW IT REMAINS MY CONCERN.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> I NORMALLY TELL PEOPLE WHY I VOTE THE WAY THAT I DO BUT , TODAY I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU. I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU. I WANT TO SHOW AN AERIAL OF THIS AREA SHOWING 1993 . LET ME TALK WHILE HE DOES THIS. WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SHOW YOU IS THE AREA SURROUNDING THIS PROPOSED PROJECT IN 1993. THAT IS BEFORE THE GOLF VILLAGE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS OVERHEAD YOU WILL SEE -- THAT IS THE NEW ONE AND THEN THE OLD ONE. 1993. THERE YOU GO. HERE WE GO. YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS AND FROM THIS MAP, INAUDIBLE ] -- THAT IS THE ONLY THING THERE IN 1993. IN 1998, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF THIS AREA, IN 1998, WE APPROVED A PROJECT CALLED GULF VILLAGE AND WE PUT UP NOW PUT UP THE 2023 AERIAL PLEASE, MIKE. OKAY. HERE WE ARE. WE HAVE MARABELLA AND CANYON BEAR. THERE IS THE PROJECT. WHAT YOU SEE IS THE QUESTION THAT YOU REFER TO. A NIGHTMARE. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT STANDING ALONE AT A PROVIDES WHAT I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND I THINK IT IS DESIGNED WELL AND THE TURN LANE CONCEPT THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED IS WELL THOUGHT OUT FOR THAT INTERSECTION BUT, WHEN I AM TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS WHAT COMMISSIONER JOSEPH REFERRED TO IN THE BEGINNING AND THAT IS, WHERE DOES THE TRAFFIC GO? IT GOES RIGHT HERE. THE ONLY THING THAT REMAINS THE SAME FROM 1993 UNTIL 2023, THE ONLY THING THAT REMAINS THE SAME IS THAT SAME LITTLE TWO-LANE CALLED 16 .

THAT REMAINS THE SAME. WE HAVE BEEN BEGGING AND PLEADING AND FIGHTING TO GET THAT FOUR LANE. I HAVE FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS. THAT I HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION. EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT AND IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED WELL AND I WOULD LOVE TO APPROVE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING , BUT I WILL NOT SIT HERE AND APPROVE MORE TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON 16 WHEN IT IS STILL TWO-LANE AND IT TAKES AN HOUR AND A HALF TO GET FROM 1695 UP TO 19 B. WITH THAT SAID, THAT PICTURE IS WHY I AM

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GOING TO CAST A NO VOTE TODAY.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER DEAN . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AS SEEING AS THIS IS MY DISTRICT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS. I HAVE MET WITH MANY OF YOU AND CREW INCLUDING THE DEVELOPER AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING OUT HERE AS WELL AS YOUR PHONE CALLS. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT COMMISSIONER DEAN SAID. I TAKE ISSUE AND HAVE GREAT CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOCATION OF THE PROJECT. I THINK IT IS WELL-DESIGNED AND WE NEED MORE OF THIS IN OUR COUNTY. BUT THE LOCATION IS A PROBLEM AND THE TRAFFIC MITIGATION DOES NOT SEEM TO BE SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO OVERCOME CONCERNS ABOUT COMPATIBILITY IN A THE STRUCTURE. BASED ON THAT I WILL BE DENYING PRESERVE AT WARDS CREEK BASED ON THE FACTS

PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. PLEASE HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE. MOTION TO

[5. Public Hearing * MAJMOD 2023-16 Pappy and 210 Commercial. Request for a Major Modification to Phase III of the Fiore Industrial Park PUD (Ord. 1987-56, as amended) to accommodate several changes to the Master Development Plan (MDP) Text and Map, specifically located at 1460 County Road 210 West. The Planning and Zoning Agency (PZA) heard this request at their regularly scheduled public hearing on March 21, 2024, and recommended approval with a vote of 5 to 1. Agency members and the public discussed the increase in building square footage, placement of the proposed storage, combination of uses for the site, and traffic in the area.]

>>> WELCOME BACK. AT THIS TIME WE WILL START WITH HEARING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. MR. BURNETT, WELCOME.

COMMISSIONERS, SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE

>> MY FAULT. I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER PHONE CONVERSATION WITH DOUG OF THE CONCERNS REGARDING TIMING. I HAVE NO RECORD.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN. >>

>> PERFECT. >> MR. BARNETT, THE FLOOR IS

YOURS. >> I WILL JUST JUMP RIGHT IN. I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW THIS AREA OF THE COUNTY. IT IS COMMISSIONER DEAN'S DISTRICT, UP 95 AND 210, THE NORTH CENTRAL PART OF THE COUNTY. YOU CAN SEE THE INVERTED TRIANGLE AT EAST WEST PAPPY ROAD FOR THE LOCATION OF THE PROJECT. I'M LOOKING AT AN AERIAL, THIS IS JUST OFF OF I-95 ON CANTERBURY, 210. YOU CAN SEE THE NEW TRINITY WAY. JUST ADJACENT TO THE TRIANGLE THERE, TO ORIENT YOU, IS TRACTOR SUPPLY. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN, WHICH I WILL GO BACK TO IN A MOMENT, BUT TO HIT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SUB STORAGE BUILDING, A RETAIL OFFICE IN THE BUILDING NEXT TO IT. THERE IS A STORMWATER POND ON THE SITE, AND THIS IS, TECHNICALLY, PHASE THREE OF A VERY OLD PUD ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 1987. I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT PHASE 2 AND 3 LOOK LIKE IN A MOMENT. THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE IN THE PRIOR APPROVALS THAT WOULD SAY, SELF STORAGE IS ALLOWED IN PHASE 3, BECAUSE IT WAS IN PHASE 2.

THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE LATER ON IN THE 2001 ORDINANCE THAT SAID SELF STORAGE WOULD BE ALLOWED. REGARDLESS, WE ARE STILL HERE TO GET IT APPROVED. EITHER WAY, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A DETAILED SITE PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A CONSTRUCTION PLAN, SO NOT DIFFICULT TO DO AT THIS TIME, AND IF YOU TRY TO DO A SITE ACCESS ADDITION LIKE WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SHOW YOU, IT WOULD NEED TO COME TO THIS PROCESS, SO REGARDLESS, WE ARE HERE. ON OUR SITE PLAN, THERE IS -- TWO THINGS THAT RELATE TO ACCESS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST, THE FIRST WOULD BE TO PROPOSE A POTENTIAL CONNECTION TO TRACTOR SUPPLY, SO POTENTIALLY, THIS ACCESS WOULD LINE UP WITH TRACTOR SUPPLY, WHERE YOU CAN GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE ENGINEERING PROJECT, AND THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS WOULD BE A POTENTIAL FOR A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ONTO 10. ONE OF THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED FROM STAFF IS, THEY ARE NOT SURE HOW IT IS ULTIMATELY GOING

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TO BE CONSTRUCTED, WHEN YOU PHYSICALLY SEE IT, TOUCH IT, WHEN IT IS COMPLETED IN THIS AREA, SO THIS PART OF IT, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE SAID IT MAY NOT BE APPROVED AT THE END OF THE DAY AND INSTRUCTED TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT SIGNING OFF ON IT. WE UNDERSTAND THAT IS YET TO BE DETERMINED, BUT IT IS IN THERE AS A POTENTIAL ACCESS POINT. ON THE FUTURE MAP, IT IS ALL MIXED-USE, SO IF YOU LOOK AT MIXED-USE, IT IS THE BROADEST CATEGORY, BASICALLY, THEY HAVE IN THE COUNTY FOR LAND USES, AND ALLOWS FOR PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING. FOR MOST OF THE CITY, RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL USES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TABLE, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, SCIENTIFIC -- HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL. YOU CAN SEE PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING IN THIS AREA IS PUD AT THIS STAGE, BUT I DO WANT TO FOCUS ON THE AREA IN THE RED CIRCLE VERY BRIEFLY TO SHOW YOU, A COMPATIBILITY MAP. YOU CAN SEE THE INDUSTRIAL PARK IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM US. YOU CAN SEE THE ORANGE TRIANGLE, THE ART PROJECT IS ACTUALLY WITHIN THE BIGGER TRIANGLE THERE. THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, I WILL COME BACK TO THAT. YOU CAN SEE FOUNTAINS EAST. THAT IS OFF THE SCREEN, TRACTOR SUPPLY, AND THE PUD TO THE SOUTH OF US AS WELL, AND OTHER INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS. COMPATIBILITY BREAKDOWN IS, BASICALLY, WE ARE COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT IS IN THAT AREA, GIVEN THE INTENSITY OF THE CONCRETE PLANT NEXT DOOR. A LOT OF PROJECT HISTORY. YOUR STAFF DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF GOING FOR THE PROJECT HISTORY OF THIS PUD REZONING THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED SO MANY TIMES. YOU CAN SEE ON THIS GRAPHIC, THE PICTURE. FOR EXAMPLE, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WERE ADDED AND CLARIFIED, AND THE CONCRETE PLANT WAS ADDED TO IT IN 2001. THE AREA IN ORANGE, PHASE 2, THE SECOND PART OF PHASE 2 IS THE CONCRETE PLANT , AND SPECIFICALLY, THE CONCRETE SITE WHERE THEY MIX CONCRETE. THE FIRST PART OF PHASE 2 IS SELF STORAGE, AND THE BIGGER PIECE OF THIS OF WHAT WENT ON MORE RECENTLY IN YELLOW, THAT IS THE BADGER INDUSTRIAL PARK, SO IF YOU ARE WONDERING WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, THAT IS IT IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN NOW.

LOOKING AT IT GRAPHICALLY FROM THE AERIAL, THAT BIG BLUE TRIANGLE IS THE OVERALL ENTIRE PUD. BADGER IS OVER TO THE RIGHT, OR EAST OF THE PROJECT, AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS THE CONCRETE PLANT. YOU CAN SEE THE TRUCK. NEXT TO THAT IS THE SELF STORAGE, EXISTING SELF STORAGE . THERE IS EXISTING SELF STORAGE, AND THAT IS THE OLD-STYLE SELF STORAGE WITH THE ROLLUP DOORS. THEY WERE PROPOSING OUR SELF STORAGE BE ACCLIMATIZED MODEL OF SELF STORAGE. ACROSS THE STREET, RATHER THAN BEING A STRIP MALL, IT IS A STRIP MALL TURNED PERPENDICULAR TO THE ROADWAY. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF USERS BACK IN THERE, COFFEE SHOP, ALL KINDS OF RETAIL, A KARATE STUDIO, AND IF YOU NEED TO SHRINKWRAP A JEEP, THEY HAVE THAT CAPABILITY, THAT BUSINESS IN THE BACK THERE. ONE OTHER THING, ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR SITE IS A POOL COMPANY SITE. IT'S PRETTY INDUSTRIAL LOOKING. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SOME POOLS PHYSICALLY CONSTRUCTED IN FRONT OF THEIR FACILITY, AND A LOT OF STORAGE AND A YARD AREA , PAVERS AND THAT, BEHIND IT. LOOKING A LITTLE CLOSER AT THE SITE , THERE IS A VIEW OF TRACTOR SUPPLY. POTENTIALLY, THERE WOULD BE A CONNECTION FROM THIS ACCESS, PAST TRACTOR SUPPLY, AND TO OUR SITE, TO THE FAR RIGHT OF THE SCREEN. TRAFFIC COMPARISON, THIS IS IN THE STAFF REPORT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECT AT 35,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL AND 25,000 FEET OF OFFICE, TO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING WITH 120,000 FEET OF SELF STORAGE AND 25,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL, YOU GET A REDUCTION OF 89 LESS TRIPS, AND JUST TO PUT THAT COMPARISON IN AN ACTUAL TABLE, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN, A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF REDUCTION OF TRIPS. TOTAL TRIPS OF THE EXISTING PUD, FOR OUR PHASE WOULD BE 4000 VERSES 2600, SO TOTAL TRIP REDUCTION IS ABOUT 1400 PER DAY. WE HAVE ALL OF THE STUDIES, THE SOIL STUDY, SITE CONDITIONS FOR WETLANDS.

JEA HAS AVAILABILITY IN THE UTILITY SERVICE PROVIDER, AND ALSO, WHAT IS NOT SHOWING UP ON THE AERIAL BUT IS FULLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT , FULLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THIS STAGE IS A NEIGHBORING PUD, AND IF I BLOW ALL OF THAT AREA UP, AND WE

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TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AND ADD SOME COLOR, YOU CAN SEE HOW OUR SITE RELATES TO WHAT IS NEXT DOOR. THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR A 200 ROOM HOTEL, 90 FEET TALL. YOU CAN SEE THE APARTMENTS ARE WELL UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THIS STAGE. A MEDICAL OFFICE, RETAIL, A RESTAURANT, A HOSPITAL. YOU CAN ALSO SEE HOW TRACTOR SUPPLY FITS INTO THEIR -- AND OUR SITE, HOW IT WOULD FIT IN , PHASE 2 WITH THE CONCRETE PLANT, PHASE 1, AND ACROSS THE STREET, INDUSTRIAL AND RETAIL OFFICE. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS ALL WILL LOOK LIKE, THESE ARE ELEVATION DRAWINGS OF WHAT WE WOULD ENVISION THE RETAIL AND SELF STORAGE TO LOOK LIKE. IT WILL HAVE A FAMILIAR FEEL TO IT. I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN A MOMENT, BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW IT ALL FITS REALLY WELL TOGETHER. FROM THE AERIAL, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE SELF STORAGE FACILITY IS ACTUALLY SET BACK , SO VIEW WISE, IT'S IN A GREAT POSITION FOR HOW IT SETS BACK FROM THE ROADWAY, VERSUS THE MATERIAL IN THE FRONT. PCA WAS A FIVE VOTE RECOMMENDATION. MRS. SPIEGEL DISSENTED, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE DISSENT WAS RELATED TO THE SELF STORAGE, AND THE NEED. MR. GREEN WAS ABSENT . I KNOW YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THEM, BUT LET ME SHOW YOU SOMETHING INTERESTING WHEN I SHOW YOU THOSE ELEVATIONS. THIS IS A STANDARD PRODUCT THAT THEY BUILD ALL AROUND -- THESE SITES ARE FAMILIAR. U.S. 1, FOR EXAMPLE. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PHOTO OFF TO THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE THE SELF STORAGE THAT FITS BEAUTIFULLY WITH RETAIL AND SELF STORAGE. YOU CAN SEE THE SHERWIN-WILLIAMS , THE ANCHOR AT THE TOP RIGHT, AND YOU CAN SEE THE SELF STORAGE NEXT TO IT. ALSO, JUST CONCEPTUALLY, WHEN THEY DO A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING, THE END PRODUCT COMES OUT VERY IN TUNE WITH WHAT THE CONCEPTUAL DRAWING LOOKS LIKE.

YOU SEE THE CONCEPT VERSUS THE FINAL PRODUCT. JUST A FINAL LOOK AT THE SITE, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN HOW THE SELF STORAGE FACILITY IS SET BACK FROM THE ROAD AND AT AN ANGLE. IT'S REALLY A GREAT USE OF -- A COUPLE THINGS ON TIMING. I KNOW THOSE QUESTIONS CAME UP. WE BELIEVE BASED ON TALKS WITH THE COUNTY STAFF THAT WE SEE 210 WHITENING COMPLETED IN 20 --

2025. >> 2025.

>> WE WISH. >> I'M TRYING. I'M STUCK ON 2015 FOR SOME REASON. I'M NOT SURE WHY, BUT 2025. THAT IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, WORST-CASE SCENARIO FOR THE 210 WHITENING PROJECT, AND FOR OUR PROJECT, WE DON'T SEE THE RETAIL BEING COMPLETED UNTIL MARCH OR APRIL OF 2026, AND THE SELF STORAGE COMPLETED IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER OF 2026. TO GET TO THAT MATH, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. YOU HAVE A YEAR OF PERMITTING.

YOU HAVE EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION ON RETAIL. YOUR 14 MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION ON THE SELF STORAGE, AND THAT ASSUMES THAT SOMEONE DOESN'T OCCUPIED AT THE TIME, SO IT'S PRETTY FAR OFF TO WHEN THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE BEING DONE TO TO 10. IT SHOULD BE GREAT TIMING ALL AROUND IT

>> THANK YOU, WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER FROM -- QUESTION

FROM COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> I'M LOOKING AT THIS ONE PAGE WHERE IT IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM PAPPY ROAD. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY KEPT A LOT OF THE NATURAL BUFFER. ANY WAY TO DO THAT INSTEAD OF CLEARCUTTING THE WHOLE THING? TO KEEP THE

NATURAL BUFFER? >> I'M NOT SURE ON GRADE

CAN YOU DO THAT? >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL SITE ACROSS FROM US, AND I THINK I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE, THIS IS WHAT IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM US.

>> NO, UP TO THE RIGHT, THE UPPER RIGHT. KEEP GOING. THERE

YOU GO. >> HERE? THIS, RIGHT HERE? THERE IS SOME VEGETATION THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY

BOUNDARY. >> CAN WE KEEP ANY OF THAT ON

THIS? >> I'M NOT SURE BASED ON THE

WIDENING. >> THAT IS ONE. SECOND, THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT FOR THE BLOCK MAKING COMPANY. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE FOR IT. REMEMBER THE BLOCK MANUFACTURING , THE CEMENT NEXT-DOOR? JUST A COMMENT.

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REMEMBER WE SAID WE REALLY WANTED A BLOCK COMPANY AND WE WANTED TO FIND A GOOD SPOT FOR IT? THAT, AND WHAT IS THE

HEIGHT? >> THIS LOCATION ISN'T TURNKEY READY YET. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

>> WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THE STORAGE?

>> 68 FEET. >> YOU SHOWED A PICTURE OF IT ON U.S. 1 CONNECTING TO STORAGE. HOW HIGH IS THE ONE IN THE PICTURE? THAT PICTURE LOOKS NICE, BUT THIS, TO ME, LOOKS

LIKE IT WILL BE A LOT BIGGER. >> THE ONE THAT I SHOWED YOU --

>> YOU SAID IT FITS NICELY, THE STOREFRONT, HERE'S THE STORAGE ON THE SIDE. IT DID NOT LOOK LIKE IT WAS 60 FEET TALL. KEEP GOING BACK. THAT LOOKS HUGE, BUT YOU SHOWED US AN EXAMPLE OF THE STORES BEING NEXT TO THE STORAGE , WAS THAT IT, RIGHT THERE? RIGHT THERE, THE UPPER LEFT. NO, GO BACK. UPPER LEFT, RIGHT HAND SIDE. YOU SAID THAT FITS NICELY INTO WHERE THE STORAGE IS ON THE RIGHT. THAT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE IT IS 60 FEET. THAT LOOKS LIKE IT IS SHORTER.

>> AND, THAT WOULD BE THIS ONE , AND IT IS IN THE 45 FOOT

RANGE. >> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT GIANT THING IN THE MIDDLE, AND THERE ARE SOME WETLANDS THERE.

ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THAT?

>> THE WETLANDS ON THE SITE ARE VERY MINIMAL AND THEY WOULD BE IMPACTED, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, THE PERSON THAT CALLS US FOR

THAT SUPPORTED THIS PROJECT -- >> I'M NOT HIM. I LIKE THE WETLANDS. JUDY IS RIGHT, THERE IS THAT GIANT STORAGE RIGHT ON

THE CORNER OF 95 AND 210. >> AS FAR AS THE STORAGE IN THE AREA, AND NEED, WE KNOW AT THIS STAGE THAT THE STORAGE THAT IS ANYWHERE AROUND THIS SITE IS ALL RUNNING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD

OF 90% OR BETTER OCCUPANCY. >> IS THERE ANYWAY YOU CAN MAKE IT SHORTER? THE HEIGHT? BRING THE HEIGHT DOWN A LITTLE BIT?

JUST A QUESTION. >> WE THINK IT IS ACTUALLY APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE HEIGHT OF THE LOCATION, AND THIS DRAWING ACTUALLY HELPS TO EXPLAIN SOME OF THE HEIGHT. WITH THE CONCRETE PLANT HAVING AN 80 FOOT HEIGHT, AND OUR BUILDING BEING AS FAR AS IT IS OFF THE ROAD, YOU ARE GOING INTO AN INDUSTRIAL AREA ONCE YOU GET BACK IN THERE, AND THEN THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF CONSERVATION, BUT EVERYTHING RELATED TO THE OTHER PROJECT HAS REALLY TELL HEIGHTS THAT

WERE APPROVED. >> AND NATURAL BUFFER, THEN? I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT FIT BETTER. 210 IS

JUST -- >> THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE , WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S ACROSS FROM US WITH THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, IT IS A SIGNIFICANT -- FROM TRACTOR SUPPLY ON, IT IS A SIGNIFICANT, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREA , ONE OF THE MORE SIGNIFICANT ONES IN THE COUNTY.

>> OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LET'S HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS. >> I NEED TO GET ME A COMMENT COUNTER OR SOMETHING. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATES. I THINK WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE SITUATION IS LIKE A -- THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION. WHEN SOMETHING STARTS, KEEPS GROWING AND GROWING AND GROWING, BUT THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF HOUSES JUST UP THE ROAD THERE ON 210, THEY NEED THIS MASSIVE 120,000 SQUARE FOOT STORAGE FACILITY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PUT ANYTHING IN THEIR YARDS. THEIR HOUSES ARE SO SMALL. THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING. THIS IS THE EFFECT OF THE OVERPOPULATION AND HOW IT IS BEING SO DENSE THAT THEY NEED TO PUT 120,000 SQUARE FEET , WITH A LITTLE -- COUPLE LITTLE SHOPS OFF THE SIDE OF A STORAGE FACILITY.

AND, HONESTLY, I HAVE BEEN LOOKING IT UP, AND I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND IT, BUT TO ME, I RANK ST. JOHNS COUNTY NUMBER ONE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR STORAGE FACILITIES PER SQUARE FOOT. BECAUSE, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT GOES IN AND WHAT EXPANDS AROUND IT , IT STORAGE FACILITIES, STORAGE FACILITIES, STORAGE FACILITIES. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THE COUNTY COMMISSION APPROVED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF HOUSES , AND THE HOUSES ARE SO SMALL, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WITHIN

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THEIR MEANS OF STORAGE, AND THEY BUY MORE STUFF , AND IT MAY BE GOOD TO HAVE THOSE SHOPS BESIDES IT, BECAUSE THEY CAN BUY IT AND WALK RIGHT INTO THE STORAGE FACILITY AND PUT IT AWAY, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE ENORMOUS. IT'S GOING TO BE BIG. IT'S GOING TO BE HUGE. LIKE I SAID, THE APARTMENTS JUST NORTH OF IT , OKAY, MAYBE THAT'S WHY THEY PUT IT THERE, BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T STORE ALL THE STUFF THEY WANT IN THEIR APARTMENTS, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COST THEM. BUT YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THIS ON TO 10, EVEN THOUGH TO 10 IS BEING WIDENED , WHICH, THAT SHOULD'VE HAPPENED A DECADE AGO , WITH THE BEACH WALK COMING IN THERE, AND YES, THERE IS GOING TO BE THE NEW ROUTE OF GETTING ON U.S. 1 FROM 210, DIRECTLY FROM 210. BUT, FOR A FACILITY LIKE THIS, RIGHT THERE, THAT IS HUGE. THAT'S HUGE. IT'S LIKE I SAID, THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF THE OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF HOMES THAT ARE GETTING PUSHED IN TO THESE AREAS, AND PEOPLE GOT NO PLACE , SO THEY NEED THE STORAGE. SO, IT IS A SNOWBALL EFFECT. OKAY? THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, ED SLAVEN. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

WE NEED TO KEEP AS MUCH OF THE NATURAL BUFFER AS POSSIBLE.

ALSO, I THINK IT IS TOO TALL. ST. AUGUSTINE CITY AND ST.

AUGUSTINE BEACH HAVE HEIGHT LIMITS, AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY, APPARENTLY, WE HAD A COUNTY COMMISSIONER INVOLVED , AND THE HEIGHT LIMITS WERE DONE AWAY WITH OR REDUCED . EVISCERATED.

AND, I THINK WE HAVE TOO MANY OF THE STORAGE UNITS, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT ASCETICS.

APPARENTLY, NO PLANNERS WITH A MASTERS DEGREE. THAT'S MY THOUGHT. ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT IN THIS COUNTY, AND THE THING SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. I NOTICED THAT MS. SPIEGEL VOTED AGAINST, AND I WISH YOU WOULD, TELL US WHY, AND MAYBE YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO HER, RATHER THAN DEVELOPERS.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE? I'M SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT UNLESS YOU HAVE A QUESTION.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION UNLESS THERE IS ANYMORE,, SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION. MR. HUNT, I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY. I HAVE NOTICED THE SAME THING WITH SMALLER LOT SIZES, MORE HOUSES , AND I MEAN, WE HAVE SO MANY STORAGE UNITS, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I DON'T SEE THAT AS A NEGATIVE, NECESSARILY. I'M JUST SAYING THAT AS A FACT, BUT I WILL MAKE A MOTION AGAINST INTEREST RIGHT NOW, KNOWING THAT IT'S A STORAGE UNIT. SO ANYWAY, I AM PREPARED TO MOVE. MOVE THE MOTION, NOT OUT OF COUNTY. THE MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2023 -16, AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

[6. Public Hearing * VACROA 2023-04 Ferrell-Becker Petition - Public Hearing to vacate a portion of Second Street North right-of-way. The applicant has requested the vacation of a portion of unopened and unimproved Second Street North right-ofway. The right-of-way vacation being requested is located within the Sun Valley Subdivision/plat in Ponte Vedra Beach. Based on staff's review thus far, no party will be unreasonably affected by the requested vacation.]

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. THAT

PASSES, 4-1. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

>> FOR THE RECORD, I MAY NOT HAVE MADE THIS CLEAR ENOUGH, THIS WAS ONLY MODIFYING PHASE 3. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MR. BARNETT. THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

SIX. GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS JEFF HARRELL , A RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL

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REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER COMPANY. I'M HERE TO PETITION FOR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ON SEVENTH STREET NORTH IN DISTRICT 4. THE AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW IS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY INITIALLY DEVELOPED AS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST OF THE IMAGE THERE. IT WAS INTENTIONALLY DEVELOPED FIRST AS PART OF A PUD TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE SUBDIVISION, WHICH WAS LATER MODIFIED AND NOW THERE IS A CUL-DE-SAC THERE BUT HOUSES, SO IT WILL NEVER BE AN ACCESS WAY. THE TWO LOTS TO THE NORTH HIGHLIGHTED IN RED ARE THE LOTS THAT WE OWN. AGAIN, SECOND STREET NORTH, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WE ARE ASKING TO BE DISSOLVED IS SURROUNDED IN LIEU. THE REASON WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT IS TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY IN A CONVENTIONAL WAY. WE ARE TRYING TO GAIN MORE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN TREES ALONG THE FRONT BUFFER OF THE PROPERTY. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL IMAGE WE SHOWED YOU, THESE ARE SITUATED AS GOING NORTH TO SOUTH, SO THEY ARE STACKED. IT WILL COME IN ON THE NORTH SIDE , AND YOU WOULD HAVE 25 FRONT AND REAR BUFFERS, AND WE WOULD HAVE TO CLEAR, EFFECTIVELY, THE ENTIRE SPACE. THE GOAL AND PURPOSE IS TO ACTUALLY REBRAND THOSE LOTS TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY MORE SUSTAINABLY, KEEP THE TREES, AND IT BRINGS THAT ROADWAY INTO THE TAX ROLLS, AND IT JUST ALLOWS US TO DEVELOP IT, INCLUDING OUR OWN NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH. IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL TODAY, WE WOULD APPLY LATER TO REORIENT THE TWO LOTS . THAT WOULD COMPLY WITH LOCAL ZONING CODES AND ADDS IT TO THE SOUTHERN PARCEL. THEN, WE STILL HAVE A 25 FOOT FRONT SETBACK ALONG THE EXISTING HOUSES. THAT IS JUST AN ILLUSTRATION SHOWING YOU THE SETBACKS, AND I HAVE MET WITH THE COUNTY STAFF A NUMBER OF TIMES. THE NEIGHBOR DIRECTLY TO OUR REAR COULD NOT STAY. WE HAVE BEEN TO HIS HOUSE, AND I PROMISED HIM, I CAN'T IT'S NOT A LAND-USE ACTION. WHAT I HAVE COMMITTED TO HIM IS THAT 25 FOOT REAR BUFFER, WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF CLEARING.

HE WANTS IT, THE NEIGHBORS TO THE REAR WANTED, WE WANT IT. WE WANT A NICE BACKYARD. WE HAVE ENOUGH SPACE ON THESE LOTS TO ORIENT THEM LIKE THIS TO BE ABLE TO KEEP SOME TREES, SO WHAT I HAVE TOLD HIM IS THAT WE HAVE AN ARBORIST THAT WE WILL SEND OUT IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS. AND, FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE FOREST, IN GENERAL , ANY CLEANING WOULD BE UNDER THE DIRECTION OF AN ARBORIST. OUR PLAN WOULD BE TO ORIENT THE HOUSES LIKE THIS, RETAIN A 25 FOOT OFFER SETBACK, VEGETATED, AND ALONG THE SOUTHERN BORDER , THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, NUMBER TWO, WE WOULD KEEP THAT SETBACK. AGAIN, TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING AS GREEN AS WE CAN. A LOT OF PEOPLE, IF YOU DRIVE BY THIS AREA, IT'S JUST CLEAR-CUT TO THE PROPERTY LINE. PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE. WE HAVE THE OPTION TO DO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR TODAY, AND WE CAN REORIENT THE LOTS, AND IT IS, SORT OF, THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME. THAT CONCLUDES MY PREPARED REMARKS.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> I HAVE TO COMMEND YOU. I WISH MORE BUILDERS WERE LIKE YOU. BILL REACHED OUT TO ME, AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH HIM, AND THE FACT THAT YOU AND MIKE ROBERSON WORKED WITH HIM AND HAVE COME UP WITH THE SOLUTION, I COMMEND YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THE TREES. SERIOUSLY. ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS? PUBLIC COMMENT? >> I WILL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX. OKAY.

[7. Public Hearing * VACROA 2023-03 3rd Street & Knowlton Street - Public Hearing to vacate a portion of unopened W. 3rd Street right-of-way, located within the Clark's Addition Subdivision. The applicant has requested the vacation of a portion of unopened W. 3rd Street right-of-way. The right-of-way vacation being requested is located between Knowlton Street and S. Nassau Street within the Clark's Addition, south of West King Street. Based on staff's review thus far, no party will be unreasonably affected by the requested vacation.]

>> THAT BRINGS US BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2024 -203, APPROVING THE 2023 E- 04 FERRELL POSITION -- PETITION.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

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SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. >> THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> WE ARE HERE TO ASK FOR A VACATE FOR 2023 , THIRD STREET AND MILTON STREET. I'M TRYING TO GET THE CLOSURE FOR THIS PARTICULAR ROADWAY. WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH , TRASHING THE PROPERTY. WE ARE CONSISTENTLY CLEANING THE PLACE UP. WE HAVE TREES THAT I HAVE TO PUT DOWN TO KEEP FROM SPREADING ALL OVER --

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE BEEN IN SAINT AUGUSTINE SINCE THE 1950S. WE HAVE LIVED AT 270 MILTON STREET, FORMERLY KNOWN AS 29TH STREET SINCE APRIL OF 1975. WE HAVE RAISED FOUR CHILDREN AT THIS HOME. THIS IS HOME FOR US. WE ARE SEEKING APPROVAL FOR 2023 E- ZERO . WE HAVE BEEN CARETAKERS OF THE ROADWAY AREA FOR MANY YEARS. WE ARE DOWN PICKING UP DEBRIS AND DURING THE HURRICANE OF LAST YEAR'S SEASON, THE TREE THAT CAME DOWN, WE GOT THE CHAINSAW AND CUT THE TREE UP AND MOVED IT TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD FOR PICKUP. OUR PLANS ARE TO FENCE THE PROPERTY. THIS WILL ILLUMINATE US FROM HAVING TO DO EXCESSIVE CLEANUPS. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME ON THIS MATTER THE REQUEST FOR THIRD STREET AND MILTON STREET. THAT IS THE MAP LOCATION. AND, WE ARE RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THIRD STREET AND MILTON STREET , THAT CORNER. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE MAP IS ON THE PROPERTY. THAT IS THE AREA OVERVIEW.

>> WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY BACK IN 2005 . 2006. WE HAVE BEEN MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY EVER SINCE. I HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY , SO I AGREE WITH HIM THAT I JUST KEEP THE PROPERTY CLEAN. WE HEARD EARLIER, ABOUT ALL OF THE GROWTH THAT IS MOVING IN. NOW, EVERY TIME I GO OUT THERE I AM PICKING UP TODAY, THERE WAS A TELEVISION OUT , PURCHASED WITH THE TAGS STILL ON IT. PEOPLE SLEEP OVERNIGHT AND JUST LEAVE. IT'S GOTTEN TO BE A SAFETY HAZARD FOR US. THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB , SHINING THE LIGHT, PEOPLE RUNNING FROM THE COPS. OUR PLAN IS TO FENCE IT OFF AND TRY TO

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CLEAN IT UP. >> THANK YOU, MR. AND MRS. MITCHELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AS WELL. I KNOW YOU BEEN HERE SINCE 8:15 THIS MORNING, SO I KNOW IT'S BEEN A

LONG DAY. >> I WAS READY TO SAY, GOOD

MORNING. >> WE ARE WELL PAST THAT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? WE ARE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 7.

>> I MICHAEL MCDONALD. I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH SUPPORTING THESE PEOPLE'S ENDEAVOR. DRIVING THROUGH KING STREET, YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE-WAY ROADS THROUGHOUT THEIR TWO DEVIATE SOME OF THE NEFARIOUS ACTIVITY, SO WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T SLIP AWAY INTO THE DARKNESS OF THE NIGHT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WISE DECISION, IF THESE PEOPLE ENCOUNTER TROUBLE. I WOULD THINK THAT IS A SMART IDEA. THAT'S ABOUT IT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATES. I WOULD LIKE TO PUT OUT THE INFORMATION -- I WOULD HOPE THAT WE GET THE ASSISTANCE OF, WHAT TYPE OF FENCE, HOW TALL THE FENCE, THE SETBACKS, ET CETERA, BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW THINGS WORK WITH FENCES, AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE CORRECT DIRECTION OF GETTING ONE PUT UP, IT WILL DEFINITELY HELP . JUST MAKING A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT. SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY SETBACKS AND YOU HAVE TO COME BACK IN AND GET OTHER THINGS STRAIGHTENED OUT.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? I'M SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ]

[8. Public Hearing * REZ 2023-30 Mai Office Complex. Request to rezone approximately 1.65 acres from OR (Open Rural) to CN (Commercial Neighborhood) to allow for an office complex on the North side of the property. The Planning and Zoning Agency (PZA) heard this request at their regularly scheduled public hearing on April 4, 2024, and recommended approval with a vote of 5 to 1. Agency members discussed the extent of wetland impacts on the subject parcel with the applicant. The applicant provided a site plan showing the extent of wetland impacts approved by the St. Johns River Water Management District (SJRWMD).]

>>>APPROVING THIRD STREET. OPEN WEST 13TH FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. LOCATED IN THE SUBDIVISION.

>> SECOND. >> MAKING A MOTION, AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

CONGRATULATIONS. >> THAT TAKES US ONTO ITEM

NUMBER EIGHT. >> I HAD NO MEETINGS.

>> MYSELF, NO MEETINGS. >> COMMISSIONER?

>> MISS TAYLOR, THAT AFTERNOON.

>> THAT AFTERNOON. KAREN TAYLOR, 77 SARAGOSSA STREET. WE DID SEND EACH OF YOU AN EMAIL. I'M ASSUMING THAT I TALKED TO

THE BOARD ABOUT IT. >> TO THAT POINT, MADAM CHAIR, I DID GET AN EMAIL FROM MISS TAYLOR. I JUST TOLD HER NO.

THAT WAS A CORRESPONDENCE. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR THE

OTHER THING. >> ANYWAY, THEY ARE WITH ME TODAY ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. THIS IS HOPING TO BE HIS OFFICE COMPLEX. WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE SOME ENVIRONMENTAL HELP ON THIS. THIS IS ON THE SIDE OF OLD LONE TREE ROAD. U.S. 1.

THIS IS HARD TO SEE AND HEAR. WE GOT 312 COMING ACROSS ON THE TOP. JUST TO GIVE YOU A REALLY BROAD LOOK OF THE AFFECTED AREA. THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SEE. I NOTICED THAT I DIDN'T PICK THIS UP LAST TIME. THIS IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF OLD MOULTRIE ROAD. UP NORTH, IS WHERE THE WALMART IS. THE STORAGE IS OVER IN HERE. THERE IS A SHOPPING CENTER TO THE SOUTH. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OFFICE COMPLEXES ALONG HERE.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES. THEY ARE ALL BURIED AWAY, AND THIS IS JUST A CLOSE-UP, SEEING WHERE THAT IS. SOME THINGS ARE LOCATED WHERE I WILL SHARE WITH YOU LATER. WE ARE SEEING THIS IN HOME DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS THE SHOPPING CENTER. THIS WAS EAST. THIS WAS WALART AND

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SELLING SELF STORAGE. WE ARE NOT DOING SELF STORAGE REP BY THE WAY. THIS IS THE REASON TO TAKE THIS TO A COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THE FUTURE LAND USE IS A MIXED-USE. THIS IS OVER TO SAINT AUGUSTINE SELF. IT IS A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO SEE AND HEAR. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PUD'S. OPC I DEVELOPMENT.

ALL SORTS OF DEVELOPMENT THINGS. WE HAVE THESE PARTICULAR AREAS. AGAIN, JUST SHOWING YOU THE SITE. 1.65 ACRES OF PROPERTY. TWO DIFFERENT PIECES. THERE IS A PIECE TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH. THEY CONNECT, AND DECIDE THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER. IT IS OPEN TO THE RURAL ZONING IT IS ALL APPEAR AS WELL DID NORTH PARCEL, IS THE PARCEL THAT MY CLIENT WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP. THAT IS FOR A SMALL ACCESSORY OFFICE. POSSIBLY SOME ACCESSORY USES TRADE I WILL SHOW YOU THAT HE WENT THROUGH THE PERMITTING AND EDUCATION PROCESS. HE ACTUALLY HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE PROPERTY THAN WHAT HE IS USING.

THE MITIGATION IS LOOKING AT THE PERMIT THAT HE HAS. THE NORTH PARCEL IS 115 FEET OF FRONTAGE. 220 DEPTH, 215 IN WIDTH. 91 ACRES. THE SELF IS 200-220. ALSO ABOUT THE SAME SIZE. IT HAS NO ACCESS TO THAT ROAD. BOTH ARE VACANT TO THE TOP. HE HAS THAT PERMIT IN HAND. AS WELL AS THE MITIGATION CREDITS THAT HE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO FEEL A PORTION OF THAT SITE. WE SHOWED YOU IN THE ZONING. THIS IS REALLY ESTABLISHING THE MIXED-USE DISTURBANCE IN THE ROAD. THEY HAVE A LOT OF SIMILAR ZONING DESIGNATIONS. THERE IS A PERIPHERAL RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS ALSO OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES. WE DO HAVE BUFFERING THROUGH PROJECT. HE WILL BE REQUIRED TO DO BUFFERING AS WELL. JUST TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THOSE, THINKING TO THE EAST, THEY HAVE SOME THAT ARE PLAYING COMMERCIAL. IN A COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, ZONING USE CATEGORIES, HAVE YOU LOOKING AT THE COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DID WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL OFFICE OF PROFESSIONAL WORKS AND EMERGENCY SERVICES. THESE HERE, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH THEM. BASICALLY, IT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ENACT WITH THE COMMERCIAL. THIS IS A BREAK FROM THE COLD. THE ACTIVITIES ARE SERVICING THE SURROUNDING ACTIVITY. YOU HAVE ACCESS TO COLLECTORS. THIS IS PRIMARILY IN THE DAYTIME. WE HAVE OFFICE OF PROFESSIONALS.

IT IS THE SAME TYPE. THIS IS THE OVERALL SITE PLAN. IT SHOWS ABOUT .78 ANCHORS OF THE .91 ACRES. THE COMPLEX ITSELF, IS ABOUT HALF OF THAT. THE FILL IS .4 ACRES. IN THE SOUTH PARCEL, ACRES. THIS IS SIMILAR TO 1.59 ACRES. THIS IS PART OF THE RESERVATION AREA. THIS SHOWS THE DEVELOPMENT. 3600 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE. THIS IS TO THE ASSIGNED PARKING SPACES. THIS INCLUDES THE BUFFERS THAT ARE REQUIRED AS WELL. THIS IS THE REQUIREMENT TO PRESERVE 17 FEET OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, FOR FUTURE EXPANSION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF DEDICATE THAT. WE ARE LOOKING TO MOVE THAT TO THE ROAD AND

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BRIDGE AS WELL. JUST TO EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE, THIS IS WHAT HE STARTED WITH. SHOWED YOU THE MORE EXTENSIVE AREA THAT HE WAS GOING TO IMPACT. SOME OF THAT WAS IMPACTED ON THAT PARTICULAR HAVE SO MUCH DIFFEREN NUMBERS. FOR THE SITE, YOU CAN SEE IT. THIS STUDY DID NOT COVER THE FULL SEGMENT. JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME PICTURES, THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON THE OLD MOULTRIE ROAD. THIS IS THE SOUTH. THIS IS FROM INSIDE. TO THE SOUTH, IS THE SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE IS ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE. THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE HIDEAWAY AT OLD MOULTRIE. THAT IS A CLOSER PICTURE OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. ALSO, HOW THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MANAGE IT.

THIS INCLUDES THE ENTRANCE TO HIDEAWAY. AS WE GO FURTHER SOUTH, THERE IS OFFICE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THERE. THAT IS LOOKING TOWARDS LEWIS ROAD THAT IS THE OFFICE OF AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT. THEY USED TO BE THERE NOW. THIS IS JUST FOR GENERAL OFFICE BUILDING DID FURTHER SOUTH OF THAT, IS ANOTHER OFFICE DEVELOPMENT. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT THIS KIND OF FITS IN WITH WHAT IS GOING ON ALONG THE ROAD. JUST GOING IN, AND SEEING SOME OF THOSE THINGS ACROSS. IF YOU LOOK NORTH FROM THE SITE, THE WHITE HOUSE OFFICE PARK, THEY ARE GOING IN AS WELL READ --. THIS IS THE BACK OF WALMART. THERE IS SOME SIGNIFICANCE, EVEN ON THE DEVELOPED SITES. THIS IS THE STATION THAT HAS REMAINED. AGAIN, LOOKING AT THAT SITE. WE FEEL VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA. ESTABLISHING THE USE DISTRICT. THE ADJACENT LAND USES, WITH SIMILAR TYPE OF ZONING, AND THE PUD, THEY WOULD NECESSARILY BE THAT. THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE REQUIRED BUFFERS FOR THAT. HE'S NOT GOING RIGHT UP TO THAT PROPERTY. JUST THOSE OF THE CURRENT LIMITS OF DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE TO BE PATIENT WITH ALL THE SETBACKS.

WE ARE NOT TRYING TO STONEWALL THE APPROVAL. THEY HAVE THE COUNTY. NOT UNTIL THIS ZONING IS COMPLETE. AGAIN, THE PERMITS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. THE MITIGATION IMPACTS THE DEDICATION FUTURE RIGHT-OF-WAY. CONSISTENT WITH AND POLICIES.

THIS IS PART OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. IT IS CONSISTENT, AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THEY HAVE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOSS OF THOSE TREES IN THAT PROJECT IN THE AREA. MOST OF THE SITE WILL STILL RETAIN A LOT HER THING. REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL ON THIS. ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> YES, OKAY. REGARDING THE TREES, IS THERE GOING TO BE A BUFFER ALONG OLD MOULTRIE ROAD?

>> THERE WILL BE A BUFFER. THE BUFFER IS NOT GOING TO BE A NATURAL BUFFER. IT WILL HAVE TO BE CREATED LIKE IT WAS ON THE

OTHER SIDE. >> SMALL, LITTLE TREES, RIGHT?

>> THEY START OUT A CERTAIN SIZE. IT IS A 20 FOOT

SING-ALONG RIGHT THERE. >> HOW MANY STORES?

>> SINGLE-STORY. >> CAN YOU PUT IN THERE THE

LOCAL ACT? >> I'M HAPPY TO PUT THAT IN

THERE. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I SAW THAT I WAS INTENDING TO

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DEVELOP THE PROPERTY. HE PREFER TO NOT HAVE IT AS A CONDITION.

>> THE ONLY REASON I PUT THAT, YOU GET CONDITIONAL ZONING READ SOMEBODY SEES IT, AND IT'S GOT SOME LINES THROUGH. A LOT OF TIMES, PEOPLE DON'T SEE THAT. IT IS PREFERABLE NOT TO HAVE A CONDITION. USUALLY CONDITIONS ABOUT SITE DEVELOPMENT THINGS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT IS A BIG CONCERN RIGHT NOW.

>> ARE YOU ADDING INTO THAT CONDITION? THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> ALL RIGHT. WE ARE OPENING UP A PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

>> MICHAEL MCDONNELL WINSLOW. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK KAREN FOR NOT EXPLOITING THIS AS A PREP. IT LOOKS GREAT UNTIL WHAT THEY SHOWED UP WITH. IT SEEMS FEASIBLE. I'M HAPPY TO SEE IT.

THEY WERE NOT TRYING TO EXPLOIT THIS AS A THREE-STORY BUILDING.

IT SEEMS REASONABLE. IF THEY CAN THE COUNT FOR ANY KIND OF BUFFER, I JUST ENCOURAGE THEM TO MAKE IT BIGGER BUFFER. IT IS A GOOD LOCATION FOR AN OUT OF THE WAY PROJECT. I KIND OF SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. IT SEEMS LIKE HE IS GOING TO OCCUPY IT.

IT IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF HIM SAYING THAT HE WAS GOING TO GRIND IT OUT. LIKE IT'S A THUMBS UP IN MY BOOK. I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A LOT MORE SUCCESS IF YOU WOULD TRY TO BRING THE PROJECT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT QUITE SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

[9. Public Hearing * PUD 2023-24 St. Marks Industrial Park. PUD 2023-24 St. Marks Industrial Park, request to rezone approximately 7.43 acres of land from Industrial Warehousing (IW) to Planned Unit Development (PUD) to allow a maximum 78,000 square feet of Business Commerce, Light Manufacturing, Warehousing, and Outdoor Storage uses. The property is located at the corner of St. Marks Blvd. and International Golf Parkway, west of US 1 N.]

>> WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY QUESTIONS, SESSION, AND

MOTION. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WILL GO AHEAD AND OFFER EMOTION TO ENACT MOTION 2024-

>> 23. >> 2023-30. BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACTS, AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE ADDED ADDITION OF THE LOCAL EXEMPTION.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. PLEASE

VOTE. >>

>> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE COMMISSIONER JOSEPH

>> MEETING WITH KAREN TAYLOR, GLENN SMITH, GOOD EVENING, STAFF. I THOUGHT YOU WERE SENDING AN EMAIL ON IT. I WILL

PUT IT ON THIS. >> WE WILL TALK TO YOU ON THIS

ONE. >> COMMISSIONER?

>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I ALSO HAD A MEETING WITH GLEN TAYLOR AND CAMRON SMITH TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT.

>> I MYSELF ALSO HAD A MEETING WITH THE STAFF TO DISCUSS THE

PROJECT. >> SAME.

>> I ALSO HAD A MEETING. DISCUSSING THE PROJECT.

>> THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> THAT AFTERNOON. ACROSS THE STREET, KEVIN SMITH IS WITH ME TODAY. HE IS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND. THIS IS ST. MARK'S INDUSTRIAL PARK AND THIS IS A PUD. I PUT THIS LOCATION MAP IN, WHICH I HAVE SHOWN EVERYONE BEFORE, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, OF THIS BEING AT THE END OF AN AREA THAT HAS IN THE DEVELOPMENT TO IT. THEY ARE BASICALLY IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. IT DOES RELATE TO INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARK WAYS. THIS IS IN ST. MARK'S POND BOULEVARD. EAST OF I-95, SOUTH AND NORTH OF THE CONSERVATION SWAP AREA. THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A CLOSER VIEW OF IT. AGAIN, GIVING YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IS AROUND IT. THERE IS ST. MARK'S POND BOULEVARD RIGHT HERE. U.S.-1, ANOTHER ONE OVER HERE. WE HAVE THE MITIGATION BANK THAT IS DOWN IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, WATER MANAGEMENT IS COVERING ALL OF THIS RESERVATION. THE COUNTY LANDFILL IS RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD AND THIS IS THE LOCATION, THE BOUNDARIES, AND WE HAVE TAKEN A PORTION OF THE OVERALL ST. MARK'S INDUSTRIAL PARK, AND ARE CHANGING THIS REGULAR AREA IN THE ZONING. YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS DEFINITELY ADJACENT TO OTHER USES. YOU CAN VERY WELL

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SEE THE PORTION OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT IS ALREADY DEVELOPED. THIS IS HERE, AS WELL AS A BORROW PIT, AND A POTENTIAL COVER. IT WILL COVER THE DEVELOPMENT PORTION ON THIS PART OF IT. THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE LAND USE IN THE AREA. IT IS ALL INDUSTRIAL. OR, AS WE HAVE SAID, ALL THE PRESENTATION AREAS, ARE PART OF THE AREAS THAT HAVE REAL COMMERCIAL PLANS, THAT WAS CARRIED OFF IN TIME. THIS COVERS THE PORTIONS THAT INCLUDE MOST OF THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS. ZONING RIGHT NOW, ZONING IS I W ON THE SITE INDUSTRIAL PARK. WE ARE CARVING OUT THIS PARTICULAR ONE. WE HAVE PROPORTIONS ALONG THIS PUD. THE SURROUNDING USES, THE ZONE FROM THE PUD, THIS IS ALL FROM THE INDUSTRIAL LONG GDP. MOST OF THE SURROUNDING AREA IS O.R.

THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE 7.438, LOOKING AT THAT NORTHERN PART, SO THAT THE OVERALL PARK IS 29.95 ACRES. IT WAS APPROVED THROUGH A COMPOUND TEXT AMENDED, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR 100 SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL USES. 57,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUSINESS AND COMMERCE. OR, UP TO 200 FEET OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. WE WOULD LIKE TO USE SOME OF THE BUSINESS COMMERCE PARK USES, WICH ARE ALLOWED UNDER THAT, WHEN THEY ARE WELL DEFINED. WE HAVE FOUR MORE BUILDINGS THAT I POINTED OUT TO YOU. THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, IT IS PRIMARY INDUSTRIAL USES. THEY HAVE SOME SPECIAL USES RIGHT THERE. HAND STUDIOS, AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. TO DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS FIRST. NOW, THEY WANT TO DO THIS, AND ACCOMMODATE THOSE BUSINESSES THAT WE ARE TAUGHT ABOUT. AS WELL AS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES, AND ALLOWING INDUSTRIAL, BUT THEY ARE NOT GOING RIGHT THERE. THIS IS JUST ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL USES. THIS, SEEMING TO BE A MORE MIRTHFUL TYPE OF LAYOUT, THEY ARE FUNCTIONING BETTER FOR SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES. THEY KEEP THE OTHER MORE INDUSTRIAL USES RIGHT HERE. AGAIN, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THERE IS NO DEFINITION. IT IS PART OF THE PLAN. IT IS DESCRIBED. WE DESCRIBED IT, DOING THE ORIGINAL PLAN METHOD. I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL OF THOSE. IT DOES ALLOW FOR THAT BUSINESS, AND ALLOWS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. TRAFFIC IMPACTS WERE ALL EVALUATED WHEN I CAME IN. DURING THE CPA, AT THAT TIME, I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS BIG ENOUGH FOR THOSE KINDS OF USES. SINCE THEN, I HAVE FIGURED OUT THAT IT WAS. THIS WOULD INCLUDE SOME OF THOSE COMMERCE BASIS. THIS INCLUDES SOME OF THAT STORAGE.

THAT IS WITHIN THE PUD AREA. WE HAVE DIFFERENT EXISTS AREAS LIKE THAT. . PARKS, RESTAURANTS, MICROBREWERIES, WE NEED THAT TO BE ALLOWABLE WITHOUT CONFIRMATION. THE PUD ELIMINATED SOME OF THE LESS DESIRABLE AND UNREALISTIC USES, WHICH IS WHERE THEY CAME AROUND SUPPORTS AND MARINAS. I KEEP SAYING COMPOST AND OTHER YARD WASTE FACILITIES. LAND EXCAVATION, PROCESSING AND RESOURCES HIM A A LOT OF THESE THINGS, EVEN LARGE PLACES, THEY DON'T PORTION OUT VERY WELL ANYWAY THE WAY IT IS DEFINED, IS THAT THESE ARE THE PERMANENT USES. THEY WOULD BE DEFINED IF THERE IS A DEFINITION FOR THEM IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THAT ISSUE IS FOR A VARIETY OF

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DIFFERENT THINGS. WE ALSO INCLUDED THOSE INDUSTRIAL USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY SPECIAL USES. THERE IS ALL OF THAT. THE ZONING GENERALLY ALLOWS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PUBLIC, AND THE EMERGENCY SERVICES. THIS IS GENERAL FOR THE EMERGENCY SERVICES. THIS IS THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP. PART OF THE PROJECT AREA. AS WE MENTIONED, THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING A SHARED ACCESS POINT, WHICH WOULD BE ALONG. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT IS NOT THERE.

ANYWAY, TO THE RIGHT, ALONG THE BOULEVARD, TO THE TOP, OF COURSE, IS THE INTERNATIONAL GOLF CART WAY. THIS ALSO SHOWS YOU THAT WE GET IT BACK. THIS LAYOUT, AND HOW IT RELATES TO THE EXISTING LAYOUT THAT WE ARE SHOWING, THERE IS STILL A PORTION OF THE CENTRAL PARK THAT SOMEONE SHOWS THE ZONES FOR. THEY FIND OUT ABOUT IT. THEY SEND CONSTRUCTION PLANS IN. IT WAS JUST ONE PHASE TO THIS. THIS GIVES YOU THE OVERVIEW. WE HAVE THE ACCESS AR THIS IS RIGHT UP. THEY HAVE GONE ON TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE AREA. WE WERE TRYING TO POINT THAT OUT BEFORE. ST. MARK'S POND LORD. PARKING IS HEAVIER THAN. HE GETS OF -- LOTS OF PARENTS THAT COME. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT HARD. THE MAXIMUM STRUCTURE HEIGHT WOULD BE 40 FEET. THE COUNTY REQUIRES THIS AS WELL. SOME OF THESE HAVE REQUIRED THAT AS WELL. WE DO HAVE SOME WETLAND IMPACT APPROVED. .388 ACRES. IT SHOWS HERE IN THE CORNER. THIS IS THE ISOLATED AREA THAT WASN'T VERY ATTRACTIVE. OF COURSE, THERE IS THE PARKWAY ON THAT TOO. SETBACKS, THINGS CHANGE. THIS WAS ZONED. NOW, WE ARE ASKING FOR THE PUD. THE PUD HAS DIFFERENT SETBACKS, AND DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS FOR SETBACKS. THE ARE ASKING ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, WE STILL NEED THE BASIC SET X THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. WE DO HAVE THE WAIVER. WE HAVE THE PUD REQUIREMENT FOR THE SETBACKS ALONG THE ROADWAYS. THIS INCLUDES THE PARKING. IT IS NOT JUST THE BUILDING IN THE IW CODE . IT IS THE PARKING. WE ARE ALSO ASKING FOR A WAIVER ALONG. IW'S, REQUIRE A 10 FOOT BUFFER. THE GHOST OF THE POND. WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT IT WAS NECESSARY TO HAVE A BUFFER TO THE POND, OR THE REST OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. ALSO, THE REQUIREMENT UNDER PUD, WAS FOR THE EIGHT FOOT SETBACK IN THE FRONT. LOOKING AT THE HOUSEKEEPING AREA. WE ARE ASKING YOU TO PRODUCE THAT.

THIS IS 20 FEET FROM THE COUNTY. THIS IS THE RIGHT OF WAY. ALSO, THIS PARTICULAR ONE TOO. THIS IS 14 FEET ALONG.

THESE ARE THE WAIVERS. I WILL BE HAPPY TO COME BACK TO THEM IF YOU NEED MORE THINGS. BASICALLY, THE WAIVERS WERE CREATED FOR THE DIFFERENT ZONING. THIS IS THE QUALIFICATION THAT WE ARE DOING. THE PICTURES, THIS IS THE BUILDING FROM THE SOUTH PORTION. ACTUALLY, I TOOK THIS

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BEFORE. THERE WAS ANOTHER PORTION OF THE BUILDING AND THE SECOND BUILDING TOMORROW. THIS SHOWS YOU THE INDUSTRIAL PARK TO THE SOUTH THIS IS JUST HOW THEY DEVELOP, AND HOW THINGS END UP LOOKING. THEY ARE REVIEWING THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK.

THEY DO HAVE SOME OUTSIDE ACTIVITIES. OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS PART OF THE INDUSTRIAL TYPE OF THING. THEY ARE LAYING DOWN THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AGAIN, THAT IS BACK IN THAT SOUTHERN PORTION. THAT IS THEIR ENTRANCE. THIS IS OFF OF THE ST. MARK'S INDUSTRIAL POND AREA. THAT IS LOOKING FROM THE SITE DOWN. ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTH. YOU COULD SEE THE OTHER ENTRANCE DOWN HERE. THIS IS ACROSS FROM IT. THAT IS ALSO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. THIS IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF SAINT MARKS POND BOULEVARD. SOME OF THE ACTIVITY GOING ON, YOU CAN SEE GOING TOWARDS IT, SOME OF THE SITE WORK THAT HAS HAPPENED ALONG THERE. THAT IS THE EXCESS. AGAIN, THAT IS THE INTERSECTION. BY THE WAY, THERE ARE TURN LANES AT THAT INTERSECTION. THAT'S THE FIRST OF THE TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE 24,000 SQUARE FEET. YOU CAN SEE. THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY VISITATION. -- VEGETATION. NOW, WE WERE ASKED TO INCREASE BUFFERING BY THE PCA. WE INCLUDED THAT IN THE TEXT, TO ENHANCE IT, SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE WHAT YOU DO, IF YOU WERE IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR. MORE TREES, MORE VISITATION. WE DID INCLUDE THAT. AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE TURN LANES, COMING FROM THE EAST. AGAIN, INDUSTRIALISM IS COMPLEMENTARY AND COMPATIBLE TO THE NATION. SOME OF THE USES THAT WE ARE INCLUDING IN THIS, AND UP WORKING WITH VALENCIA.

SOME OF THOSE USES, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, ARE HARD-PRESSED TO LOOK AT THE HIGH COMMERCIAL RATES. WE HAVE A WAREHOUSE ATMOSPHERE. THEY ARE COMPATIBLE AGAIN WITH THAT AREA. WATER MANAGEMENT PRESERVATION AREA, WILL BE CONDUCTING THAT NOT IN ANY NEGATIVE WAY. IT IS NOT REALLY CHANGING THE ALLOWABLE LAND USES IF ANYTHING. WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE SOURCES. IT IS INDUSTRIAL RIGHT NOW. THEY HAVE A LOT MORE CONDITIONS ON THE INDUSTRIAL. WITH THAT, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN.

IT IS PART OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. IT WILL HAVE BUFFERS AND SCREENINGS FOR IT AS WELL. THIS IS RECOMMENDED

FOR APPROVAL BY PCA. >> THANK YOU, MISS TAYLOR. WE

HAVE A QUESTION. >> NOT A QUESTION, A COMMENT.

WITH VALENCIA, THAT USE IS PERFECT FOR KIDS AND FAMILIES.

I THINK IT IS DIFFERENT FOR SOME AND TRUCKS GOING IN THERE.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL ACT ON THIS ONE?

>> WE WERE LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT. WE ARE ADDING THAT ONE

THE SAME. >> I THOUGHT WE AGREED IT WAS GOING TO GO IN THE ORDINANCE. THIS IS THE PUD. NO PROBLEM.

>> ANY OF THE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

>> WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AGENDA

ITEM NINE >> CHUCK LEBOWSKI, 738 NORTH

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APPAREL. THE ONLY ISSUE I HAVE, THE SECOND ENTRANCE AND EXIT.

IS THAT A RIGHT OUT, LEFT IN? WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACCELERATION LENS OR ANYTHING ELSE? IT IS HARD TO TELL ON THE GRAPH. THE LEFT SIDE, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT WITH TRAFFIC ON THAT SECTION OF THE ROADWAY.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHARLIE HUNT, WILL PREACH ESTATE. IT SEEMS KIND OF CONFUSING. IF THEY ARE LOOKING TO DO THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND PUT ALL THESE BUILDINGS UP THERE, BUT IT IS ALREADY GONE, HOW DO YOU SAY IT WAS NEW? IS IT IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING BILLED? WHAT THIS IS, LOOKING AT THE DISPLAY OF WHEN NOTHING WAS DONE UP BY MATTHEWS, AND THE CCM, IT SHOWED EIGHT SETBACK IT SHOWS THE SETBACKS THAT THEY ARE WANTING NOW. THAT IS WHAT I AM QUESTIONING. IS THIS TO COME IN AND GET IT STARTED LIKE THEY DID, AND COME BACK AND PUT IN FOR IT? IS THIS ANOTHER SETBACK? WILL IT BE OKAY? THAT'S THE SMOKE AND SCREAMS KIND OF THING. GETTING IT GOING, AND COMING BACK IN FOR THE WEST. ANOTHER COMPANY LIKE MATTHEW D CCM, WHY DO THEY NEED TO COME BACK AND PUT IN FOR ADJUSTMENTS AND SETBACKS? THAT POND WAS RIGHT THERE. THAT BURL PIT WAS THERE. BEFORE THAT, YES. GO BACK AND LOOK AT ONE OF THE FIRST SLIDE THAT WERE PRESENTED. IT WAS ALL GREEN.

YOU JUST SEE THAT LOWER LINE. THIS WAS A DIFFERENT PARKWAY RIGHT THERE. IT WAS. THIS WAS ALL TREES RIGHT THERE. THERE HAS TO BE, IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT. WHAT THIS IS, THIS IS A TRUE SMOKE AND MIRRORS. WE WILL GET THIS START, COME BACK, AND WE WILL MAKE THE CHANGES. WE WILL PUT IT ACROSS. IT WILL BE OKAY. IT IS THE WAY OF HOW THEY GET AROUND. IT IS GETTING AROUND IN THE SYSTEM. IF THEY DID THE PLANS PROPERLY, BLAME THEM FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO MOVE THE SETBACKS. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE RIGHT THERE. IF THAT COMPANY HAD THOSE PLANS, WITHOUT SETBACKS, OR WANTED TO ADJUST THEM LATER ON THEN WHO IS AT FAULT? IS IT THE COUNTY? IS IT THE COMPANY? THE COMPANY HAS ALL OF THE COLLEGE GRADUATES DOING ALL OF THE PLANS. ETHICS.

>> HELLO, AGAIN. JOE MCINERNEY. 1005 HIGHLANDS LANE. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. I NEEDED SOME TAKEAWAYS. IF YOU WANT TO SEE ONE OF THE WORST TRAFFIC INJECTIONS ANYWHERE EMMA YOU CAN DRIVE NORTH ON U.S. 0-1.

THIS IS TURNING ONTO IDP. I DON'T HAVE THAT FROM THE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS SPREADSHEET AT THE TIME. MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT IT IS OVERCAPACITY. 120%. WE NEED IT.

I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T NEED IT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T NEED IDP OR ST. MARK'S. IN FACT, TALKING TO THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, THERE IS NO VEHICLE COUNT FOR NONRESIDENTIAL. THEY WON'T COUNT WHAT TRAFFIC IS THERE.

THEY ARE ANTICIPATING THE TRAFFIC CREATED BY NONRESIDENTIAL. THIS IS GOING TO CREATE MORE TRAFFIC AND THERE IS ALREADY A LOT OF TRAFFIC WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE. IN TWO YEARS, WE WILL. I WILL FEEL SORRY FOR

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THAT. TALKING, THEY TOLD ME THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WAS WITH THAT DOWN SOUTH. WE ARE JUST ABOUT OUT OF THE LANE. THIS IS THE ST. MARK'S AREA. THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANTS ARE GIVING YOU GOOD ADVICE RELATED TO THAT. THESE ADDITIONAL AREAS CAN GO TO IT. WHAT HAS ALWAYS SEEMED TO ME, IS THAT IT WAS A TERRIBLY UNDERUTILIZED ACTION FROM TIMING. IT MEANS A REAL INDUSTRY. WE ARE CHIPPING AWAY.

SOMEHOW, SOMEWAY, THERE NEEDS TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE, MASTER PLAN THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. ELLEN AVERY SMITH TELLS ME THAT WE NEED EXCEPT FOR FIGURE THINGS. I BELIEVE HER. I THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT PLACE. I THINK THEY WILL CREATE A REAL EXCHANGE OPPORTUNITY. WE JUST SEEM TO BE NICKEL AND DIMING THE COUNCIL. I'M FRUSTRATED TO SEE MORE OF IT. I'M SURE IT WILL BE APPROVED. I'M SURE IT IS ALREADY ALLOWED WITH SOME ENTITLEMENT. THEY ARE LOOKING AT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE NOW.

LET'S NOT OVERLOOK WHAT WE GOT. THIS IS ANOTHER DOMESTIC

OPPORTUNITY. >> MICHAEL MCDONALD. I DO NOT WANT TO LISTEN TO ELLEN AVERY'S MISDIRECTION ON WHERE WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT FROM. WE NEED SOME INDUSTRIAL BUILDING.

WE DO NOT NEED THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THIS IS NOT HELPING OUR LOCAL ECONOMY. IT IS NOT BENEFITING OUR COMMUNITY. THESE ARE ALL OPERATED COMPANIES. LIMITED WORKFORCES. THIS IS NOT WHAT WE NEED IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE NEED COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES THAT SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY. NOT BIG BUSINESSES THAT COULD DRIVE US OUT WITH THEIR CORPORATE GREED. THIS BUILDING COULD SERVE PURPOSE. THE TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS IN THAT AREA. TRYING TO INCREASE MY PEOPLE TO COME ACROSS THAT TRAIN TRACK HAVING TO CYCLE ACROSS, IT IS A NIGHTMARE. ESPECIALLY AT THAT TIME. THESE CLASSES, THERE WERE ONLY SO MANY PROSPECTS AS WELL.

THERE'S ONLY ONE DANCE CLASS. THE COMMUNITY THAT IS GOING TO COME TO THAT, IS PART OF THE CORPORATE SPONSORED COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE FIVE TRUCK IN PLACES. THIS IS THE CAPITAL THAT WE ARE RINGING THE BELL FOR. WE CAN LOOK AT THE RIGHT . WE ARE LOOKING AT THE OCCUPANCY LEVEL SURROUNDINGS THE BUILDINGS. WE KNOW HOW MUCH COMPETITION WE ARE GOING TO BRING IN THAT AREA. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE I DON'T NECESSARILY SUPPORT THE SIZE OF THAT BUILDING. I HEAR THE AVERAGE COMMUNITY HAVING TO HEAR ABOUT THE SERVICES FROM THAT. NOT ENOUGH IMPERVIOUS SURFACES. THIS IS ANOTHER PATH THAT IS ALL IMPERVIOUS FROM THE SERVICES. WHERE IS ALL THAT WATER GOING TO GO? TO MENTION THESE BUFFERS, THEY HAVE THAT WELL ORGANIZED. THIS IS ANOTHER PERSON THAT IS DESIGNING THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE WELL AWARE OF. ET CETERA. I DON'T KNOW. THIS BUILDING WOULD SERVE A LITTLE BIT OF PURPOSE. MAYBE IF THEY HAVE SIS, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE. THEY HAD A LOT OF BUILDINGS IN THAT AREA. I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE WELL AWARE. I DON'T THINK THAT IS GOING TO DO ANY GOOD TRAFFIC. THAT IS GOING TO NOT MAKE THAT TRAFFIC ANY BETTER TO GET ACROSS THAT BRIDGE. THE REST OF 95. IT IS MORE INDUSTRIAL. YOU GUYS ARE LOADING THAT AREA UP. JUST BE CONSIDERATE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT IS GOING TO SHOW UP NEXT.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING, WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> JUST REAL QUICK, THERE WAS A QUESTION ON THAT ONE ENTRANCE. THE ONE EXIT, THAT IS A RIGHT OUT. IT IS NOT GOING TO CAUSE ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

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THERE ARE TURN LANES IN THAT DIRECTION, RIGHT AT ST. MARK'S POND BOULEVARD. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WERE SOME OTHERS THAT AREN'T. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS. WE UNDERSTAND THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC. THE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

BASICALLY, THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN FACTORED INTO, WITH THE TRAFFIC RIGHT THERE. WE DID A COMMENT PLAN ON 2018 -- WE HAD INFORMATION FOR THAT. THIS IS THE SAME USE. AGAIN, JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, THIS IS NOT ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ALLOWED UNDER IW. THIS GIVES YOU MORE CONTROL OF THAT. THE SETBACKS ARE DIFFERENT FOR A PUD. THIS IS GOING TO BE STARTING WITH CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND THINGS. THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT PUD.

THIS WAS ANOTHER ONE DONE JUST ON THE ROAD FROM HERE. THAT IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA. THAT IS THE REASON THAT BUFFERS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. WE SEE THAT IT WAS A MISTAKE. THIS IS WHAT THE ENGINEERS MADE. IT IS JUST BEING ABLE TO CHANGE TO THE DIFFERENT ZONING CAP NO. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD

BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER

TAYLOR. >> LOOK IN THE AGENDA PACKET.

THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE. THEY WERE NOT TAKE ANY PLANNING 101. THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. WE ARE NET TAKING THE OPEN ROAD APART. WE ARE NOT TRYING TO GET THAT REZONED. THIS IS WHAT THIS AREA WAS DESIGNED TO DO. IT IS CERTAINLY ADDING UP. MADAM CHAIR

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I'M PREPARING TO MAKE A MOTION. I WANT TO TAKE TWO SECONDS TO REFLECT ON THE FACT THAT THIS IS MENTIONED. THE PREVIOUS DEAL THAT IS NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY, IS 22,000 ACRES GRADE THIS IS FROM THIS PROPERTY. WE LOCATED THAT IN JANUARY. IT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY BETTER BUSINESS BILLS.

ANYWAY, MOST OF THE ORDINANCE IS FROM 2024. MOTION TO

[Items 10 & 11]

RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THE 2023-2024 ST. MARK'S INDUSTRIAL POND AREA BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT HAS BEEN PROVIDED

WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. MADAM CHAIR?

>> SORRY TO INTERRUPT. DOES THAT MOTION TO INCLUDE THE COMMISSION WAIVING THE RIGHT TO THE DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL ACT?

>> YES. IT WOULD INCLUDE THAT IN THERE.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION, AMENDED SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ONTO AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 10 AND 11. 11 IS QUALIFIED JUDICIAL.

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> NO MEETINGS.

>> NO RECOLLECTION OF ANY MEETINGS.

>> NO MEETINGS. COMMISSIONER WHITEHOUSE?

>> I MET COMMISSIONER AND OFF THIS. I HAPPEN TO BE PASSING BY. WE SAT DOWN. THEY SHOWED ME. WE DISCUSSED FAMILY HISTORY

OF THE PROPERTY. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> I ALSO MET WITH THEM LAST WEEK. LONG HISTORY WITH THE

PROPERTY OWNERSHIP. >> OKAY. THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

THANK YOU FOR WAITING SO PATIENTLY ALL DAY.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS DO IT.

>> EVERY OTHER TUESDAY. >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL BUSH FIELD, AND MY WIFE JULIE. WE WERE BORN IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A PRETTY LONG WHILE. ASKING FOR A SMALL-SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE HAVE THE AMENDMENT TO CHANGE ON THE FUTURE LAND USERS TO RESIDENTIAL A. WE ARE ASKING FOR ANOTHER ZONE DANCE TO ALLOW. THIS IS TO APPEASE THESE REQUIREMENTS. PLEASE INCLUDE THE TEXT AMENDMENT TO A MAXIMUM

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OF TWO FAMILY UNIT, ONE FOR EACH OF OUR CHILDREN, USING THE EAST AREA. THIS IS THE LOCATION. IF I SHOULD KNOW WHERE IT IS NOW. WE ARE ON THE VERY SOUTH END. THIS IS ABOUT A MILE EAST OF U.S.-1. THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP THAT WE HAVE OWNED. WE HAVE BUILT, LIT, AND RAISE OUR FAMILY ON THE PARCEL LEVEL IS THIS PROPERTY SINCE 1995. WE ALSO HAVE OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS THAT HAVE CALLED THIS AREA HOME. THIS GO BACK TO THE 1920S. YOU CAN SEE THE SLIDE ON THE RIGHT. THIS SLIDE HERE, SHOWS YOU EVERYTHING. 7.8 ACRE PIECE. WE LIVE RIGHT HERE IN THIS AREA. WE RAISE A FAMILY. THIS IS ALL DIVIDED UP BETWEEN BOTH OF OUR KIDS. THIS IS A FIVE ACRE OTHER LANDS. THIS IS PART OF THAT BORDER. THIS IS THE 100 FOOT EASEMENT OF THE WETLANDS. OF COURSE, THIS IS JUST THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS LOOKING OUT OUR BACKYARD. LOOKING AT THE PARTIAL PROPERTY THAT MY DAUGHTER WILL BUILD. THIS IS A ZONE OPEN RULE. EXISTING LAND IS AGRICULTURE. WE ARE REQUESTING THE LAND USED TO BE CHANGED TO ESSENTIAL AID READ WE MET WITH THE BOARD ON MARCH 23RD, 2024. THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, WITH A VOTE OF 6-10. THIS IS THE LATEST EASEMENT THAT I HAVE DRAWN. THE COST OF THE PROPERTY. THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE POND AND OUR HOUSE DID IT IS PROPERLY MAINTAINED BY MYSELF, AND MY ENGLISH. I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL OF THIS.

I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS. THIS REQUEST WOULD CLEARLY FOLLOW THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THESE REGULATIONS. THERE IS NO CHANCE OF THE CONGESTION. THIS WILL DO NOTHING TO THE PROPERTY VALUE, OR TO THE SURROUNDING AREA I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND

SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER?

>> I JUST HAD TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE YOU IMPLORING ME ABOUT THE PROPERTY, AND WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO FOR YOUR KIDS. THINGS ARE CHALLENGING RIGHT NOW THE ECONOMY, AND THE COST. THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR FAMILY HISTORY WITH ME

THAT IS ALL. >> NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, PUBLIC

COMMENT >> OPENING UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 10 AND 11

>> MICHAEL MCDONALD. CONGRATULATIONS TO THAT GENTLEMAN, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A PROPERTY FOR HIS TWO KIDS. THIS IS ALL LOGIC. REGULATIONS. HAVING A PROPERTY THAT YOU CAN

PUT YOUR TWO KIDS IN. >> IS THAT THE FINAL THOUGHTS? CHARLIE HUNT. MILLCREEK ESTATES. OTHER THAN SAINT AUGUSTINE BECOMING THE ANCIENT CITY, ACTIONS LIKE THIS HAVE BECOME ANCIENT IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE HAVE FAMILY THAT WANT TO STAY AROUND EACH OTHER. YOU HAVE A PROPERTY, TO STAY IN, AND BE AROUND THE FAMILY. THESE ARE BECOMING VERY OLD-STYLE FAMILY LIVING FARMS. LIKE I SAID, THE OVERDEVELOPMENT, AND ALL THE ISSUES WE COME UP WITH, MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THIS SHOULD BE PUT UP IN THE FRONT. THIS IS WITHIN THE AGENDA, JUST TO SEE HOW THINGS CAN BE. THIS IS HOW THEY WERE UNTIL THEY RUN INTO ALL OF THESE HUNDREDS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING APARTMENTS, SUBDIVISIONS, EVERYTHING LIKE

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THAT. THIS WOULD HAVE MADE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED HERE THREE YEARS, AND DON'T WANT THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX. THEY MOVED HERE FOR THIS. YOU HAVE FAMILIES THAT ARE STILL ESTABLISHED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THEY WANT TO STAY ESTABLISHED IN A SENSE. THEY ARE NOT SENTIMENTAL. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. KINGS ROAD SOUTH. MANAGER COMMISSIONERS, THIS WILL BE A REALLY BRIEF COMMENT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT IF THERE WAS EVER AN OPPORTUNITY AS A COMMISSIONER TO DO A FEEL-GOOD THING, THIS IS IT. I STRONGLY ADVISE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PASS THIS. WHAT THESE PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING THEM, WE WILL

CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD. WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS OR PERHAPS A MOTION WITH

>> I HAVE A MOTION. FIRST, I WANT TO DECLARE THIS OFFICIALLY ST. MARK'S POND DAY. WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. FEEL FREE TO FOLLOW THAT UP IN THE MEETING. MOTION TO ENACT

ORDINANCE 2024 >> 25.

>> APPROVED 2023-07 BASED ON THE FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT

PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATULATIONS.

>> NUMBER 11. >> NOW WE HAVE GOT IT.

>> I HIT IT. >> YOU HAVE TO MAKE MOTION.

>> NUMBER 11. >> WHAT WAS I MAKING?

>> NUMBER 10. >> WE HAVE TO DO 11 ALSO.

>> I'M OBVIOUSLY LOSING IT. MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING ASK

[12. Public Hearing * LDCA 2023-07 Amendments to the Land Development Code for Special Care Housing- Second Reading. At the Board of County Commissioners (BCC) meeting on September 19, 2023, staff received direction to draft an amendment to the Land Development Code regarding Assisted Living Facilities (ALFs) within Open Rural (OR) zoning. Land development regulations categorize ALFs under the broader term of Special Care Housing. Additional clarifications to Special Care Housing regulations were identified by staff and are included in the proposed amendment. The first hearing of these amendments took place at the BCC meeting on February 6, 2024. The Planning and Zoning Agency heard this item on March 21, 2024, and voted 6-0 to recommend approval of the item with a revision to the way in which Floor Area Ratio (FAR) is expressed as a percentage. That change has been made. Additionally, the maximum FAR for Special Care Housing Level III allowed by right has been increased to 50% to better align with the Comprehensive Plan.]

2023-20 2319 BIRKDALE PROPERTY. REQUEST FOR ZONING VARIANCE.

THIS IS TO SECTION 6.0407 EIGHT THIS IS IN FAVOR OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO RELEASE THE ROADWAY AND EASEMENT REQUIREMENTS WITH THE SIX FINDINGS OF FACT. PROVIDED IT

WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. THAT ALSO PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATULATIONS. MR. AND MRS. BURCHFIELD. WE ARE

ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. AMY RING, GROWTH MANAGEMENT. I AM THE SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER. I HIT 2% AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12. THIS IS THE SECOND HEARING FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS. JUST AS A QUICK RECAP, BACK IN SEPTEMBER THEY ARE LOOKING AT STAFFED AMENDMENTS TO A DEVELOPMENT CODE THIS IS PART OF THE FACILITIES, OR THE ALS FOR THE RURAL ZONING. THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE ZONING AGENCY. THIS TOOK PLACE ON MARCH 21ST DID THIS IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. THIS IS SUBJECT TO A SCRIPT CHANGE, LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT RATIO. THIS IS FROM THE 225%. THERE WAS NO ADDITIONAL AGENCY DISCUSSION AT THE TIME. CURRENTLY, ASSISTED-LIVING FACILITIES ARE A TYPE OF SPECIAL CARE HOUSING. THIS IS DEFINED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THIS INCLUDES HOUSING, LOOKING AT CONGREGATE CARE HOMES, AND FOSTER HOMES. SPECIAL CARE HOUSING IS CURRENTLY ABOUT THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS AS A RESIDENTIAL USE. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SPECIAL CARE HOUSING INTO WHAT WE ARE PLACING FROM THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS. SPECIAL WAREHOUSING LEVEL ONE, LOOKING AT SIX RESIDENTS. WE HAVE SEVEN TO 14 RESIDENTS. LEVEL THREE IS LOOKING AT IT. SPECIAL CARE HOUSING LEVEL ONE, IS LOOKING AT THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING TO STRICT. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT. YOU HAVE THE MULTI FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT SPECIAL