Apr 09, 2024 Land Acquisition and Management Program

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OKAY, IT'S OFFICIALLY 130.

[Call meeting to order]

WE'LL START WITH OUR ROLL CALL.

MIKE ADAMS IS ABSENT TODAY.

IRENE KAUFMAN PRESENT.

WAYNE FLOWERS, JB MILLER HERE, AND NEIL LAHIRI HERE.

SHORTY ROBBINS.

HOLLY SMITH HERE.

AND LAUREN HOWINGTON HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE WILL MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE ACCEPTED DURING TWO PERIODS AND MAY NOT INTERRUPT BOARD PROCEEDINGS.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK.

COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD ON PROPOSITIONS BEFORE THE BOARD, AS THOSE ITEMS ARE ADDRESSED ON THE AGENDA, AND PUBLIC COMMENTS ON MATTERS NOT BEING CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD WILL BE DURING A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC DESIRING TO SPEAK MUST INDICATE SO BY COMPLETING A SPEAKER CARD AVAILABLE AT THE FRONT TABLE, SPEAKERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES WHO THEY REPRESENT AND STATE THEIR ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, EACH PERSON ADDRESSING THE BOARD SHALL LIMIT COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.

PERSONS SHALL NOT ADDRESS THE BOARD OR ANY MEMBER THEREOF UNLESS SPECIFICALLY RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIRPERSON.

EXCUSE ME, CHAIRPERSON, TO DO SO DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE TODAY WISHING TO MAKE A COMMENT ON AN ITEM? NOT ON THE AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE INTO BOARD BUSINESS APPROVAL OF OUR MEETING MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 13TH MEETING.

[Approval of meeting minutes from the February 13th meeting]

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES? OKAY SEEING NONE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN? THANK YOU, MR. FLOWERS.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU, MR. MILLER. DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES.

OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING IT AS WRITTEN, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAY NAY. ALL RIGHT.

THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS WRITTEN, AND WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO APPROVAL OF OUR CURRENT AGENDA.

[Approval of current agenda]

JUST THREE ITEMS. WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH A SECOND REVIEW OF THE PELLISIER CREEK APPLICATION, AND WE WILL HAVE A FIRST REVIEW OF THE FAVORITE EXPERT APPLICATION.

THIS IS A SUBMITTAL UNDER A NEW OWNER.

AND THIRD, WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ON CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLANS.

ANY COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA OR DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SO MOVED. THANKS.

MR. MILLER, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. THANKS.

MR. SMITH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AGENDA? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE AGENDA, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAY NAY, AND THE AGENDA CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE PELLISIER CREEK, US ONE APPLICATION.

[1. Pellicer Creek-US 1 Property- Second review]

SO WE'LL HEAR BRIEFLY FROM HAYLEY, JUST A REFRESHER ON THE PROPERTY DISCUSSION.

AND THEN WE WILL SUBMIT OUR SCORES FOR THIS PROPERTY AS WELL AS OUR EVALUATION SHEETS TO STAFF.

SO WITH THAT, HAYLEY.

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I'LL JUST START WITH A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.

I MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED IT AT OUR PRIOR MEETING, BUT I THINK CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ARE FANTASTIC CONSERVATION TOOL.

YOU KNOW, THEY ALLOW LANDS TO REMAIN IN PRIVATE OWNERSHIP WHILE PREVENTING DEVELOPMENT.

WHICH HAS MANY BENEFITS FOR THE COUNTY, INCLUDING A REDUCED ACQUISITION COST.

SO I'M THE ONLY THE ONLY THING THAT WE RUN INTO WITH OUR EVALUATION SHEETS IS THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD REMAIN IN PRIVATE HANDS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THAT PUBLIC ACCESS COMPONENT, WHICH IS KIND OF LOWERED MY SCORE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN I WISH IT, YOU KNOW, HAD.

BUT I'M STILL HOPEFUL THAT THIS ONE WILL RANK FAIRLY HIGHLY.

SO WITH THAT, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION.

AND THIS IS TO STAFF, I GUESS.

DOES THE WHERE.

WHERE THERE ARE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS THAT ARE HELD BY THE THE COUNTY.

DOES THE COUNTY HAVE A LIKE A REGULAR INSPECTION PROGRAM FOR THOSE PROPERTIES? YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY WHAT I WOULD CHARACTERIZE MAYBE AS A SMALLER PROPERTY LIKE THIS.

TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE RESTRICTIONS ARE BEING COMPLIED WITH.

NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.

THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THERE'S NOT, BUT NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

AS FAR AS WHAT I SEE RYAN DOING, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S PART OF OUR ROLE.

BUT, YEAH, WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT FOR SURE.

OKAY, SO, MR. MILLER, THEN, MR. SMITH. YEAH.

IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IN THE PAST THE COUNTY WOULD NOT ACCEPT CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.

SO THAT'S I GUESS THAT'S A CHANGE IN WHATEVER THE RIGHT WORD IS.

IN WHICH IS A GOOD CHANGE.

I'M, I'M HOPING THAT IS INDEED THE CASE, BUT YEAH, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POINT THAT ANNUAL INSPECTIONS ARE.

I MEAN, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE VERY SIMPLE AND THEY TYPICALLY DON'T SPECIFY ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT'S NOT SUPER LARGE.

DON'T TAKE A LOT OF TIME.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO ENSURE YOU KNOW THAT EVERYTHING'S BEING COMPLIED WITH SO THAT THAT IS A BIG DEAL.

AND THE OTHER POINT I WANTED TO BRING UP IS.

CAN WE PUT AN ASTERISK BY THIS WHEN IT GOES TO THE, TO THE TO THE COMMISSION? PROBABLY THE SAME THING. HOLLY'S THINKING BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT WILL THE SCORES WILL BE REFLECTED IF WE'RE BEING HONEST, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF PUBLIC ACCESS. BUT YET AT THE SAME POINT, IT DOESN'T IN ANY WAY BELITTLE THE VALUE OF THIS PROPERTY IN TERMS OF ITS ACQUISITION.

SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A MECHANISM.

I GUESS THAT'S A COUNTY ATTORNEY QUESTION AS MUCH AS ANYTHING, BUT I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT.

YEAH. AND I THINK SOMETHING TO CONSIDER ALSO FOR ANY FUTURE EASEMENTS MAYBE NEEDS TO BE.

YEAH. OKAY.

SO SIMILARLY AND MAYBE THAT'S PART OF OUR RECOMMENDED PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY.

BUT CERTAINLY I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE ADHERING TO THE, THE EASEMENT THAT'S BEEN PURCHASED AND HAVE DISCIPLINARY ACTION IF OTHERWISE.

BUT, ELIZABETH, YOU TOUCHED ON IT.

SORT OF IN MY ENGAGEMENT WITH THIS WAS ONE KNOWING MY SCORE WAS LOWER THAN TYPICAL FOR A, THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE OPPORTUNITY THAT'S THERE.

AND SO CONSIDERING FOR US.

YOU KNOW, IS THERE AN ALTERNATE SCORING OR IS THERE A MODIFIED PROCESS FOR EASEMENTS AS OPPOSED TO LAND ACQUISITION? SO THAT WAS IN MY MIND GOING THROUGH IT.

CERTAINLY WANTED TO VALUE THIS HIGH ENOUGH TO PURSUE, GIVEN THE SORT OF DISCOUNTED PURCHASE PRICE TO BE ABLE TO STILL CONSERVE IT.

SO THAT WAS A THOUGHT THAT I HAD.

AND THEN HAD ONE OTHER.

I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT IT WAS.

SORRY. I'LL SPEAK BACK UP IN A SECOND.

I JUST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SIMILAR COMMENTS, BUT I HAVE A I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PUBLIC DOLLARS BEING USED TO ACQUIRE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T

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AND I AM CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER WE COULD USE WORDING, CREATIVE WORDING IN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN TO ALLOW PUBLIC ACCESS SOMEHOW.

SO, YOU KNOW, THEY DO IT WITH TRAILS.

EVEN IF TRAILS ARE CROSSING A PRIVATE PROPERTY.

THERE'S A STATE STATUTE THAT ALLOWS PUBLIC ACCESS THROUGH THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S A DESIGNATED TRAIL.

SO I FEEL A LOT BETTER ABOUT THIS PROPERTY IF THERE WAS SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC ACCESS.

WOULD THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL NEGOTIATION WITH THE OWNER? YEAH. I THINK, YOU KNOW, BY NATURE, EASEMENTS DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY REQUIRE OR, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE PUBLIC ACCESS.

YOU KNOW. I UNDERSTAND YOUR YOUR POINT, MISS ROBBINS.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THERE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STATE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE HAVE A SIMILAR PURPOSE, WHICH IS TO ACQUIRE EASEMENTS OVER PRIVATE LAND THAT STAY PRIVATE AND DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC ACCESS REQUIREMENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE LAMP PROGRAM ALSO DOES NOT REQUIRE PUBLIC ACCESS.

THOSE. THOSE WOULD BE MY COMMENTS ON THAT.

MANAGED TO THINK OF WHAT MY OTHER THOUGHT WAS.

AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, FIRST TIME WE'RE ADDRESSING THE PROPOSAL OF CONSERVATION EASEMENT AS OPPOSED TO PURCHASING THE PROPERTY.

BUT AGAIN, I KIND OF WONDERED AND I MADE THE REQUEST OF THE LAND TRUST LAST MEETING.

BUT TO UNDERSTAND THE DETAILS OF THE EASEMENT, TO KNOW WHAT THE VALUE IS, IS SORT OF A HARD ASSESSMENT TO MAKE ON THE FRONT END BEFORE IT'S CONFIGURED, BUT SORT OF.

I WANTED TO ASK STAFF IN THAT PROCESS, LIKE, WHO WEARS THE HAT OF THE DETAILS OF THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT? DOES THAT REST WITH THE APPLICATION TO US THAT WE'RE REVIEWING IN THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT STAFF PICKS UP THE BALL AT THE POINT THAT THEY'RE DIRECTED TO TO NEGOTIATE THAT OUT? I WOULD ASSUME THE LATTER.

GIVEN SORT OF THE PROCESS WITH AN ACTUAL LAND ACQUISITION.

BUT I WAS CURIOUS OF THAT KNOWING OR ASSESSING SORT OF THE PRICE EXPECTATION WITH THE CONSERVATION THAT'S BEING PURCHASED.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYBODY? I WILL WRITE THAT QUESTION DOWN AND GET BACK TO YOU.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS QUESTIONS.

OTHER FOLLOW UP ITEMS WE WANT TO MAKE NOTE OF FROM THE BOARD.

I JUST AS A FOLLOW UP, I MEAN THAT THAT YOU MAKE A GREAT POINT.

I ALWAYS PROCEED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT, YOU KNOW, THE EASEMENT WILL LOOK LIKE A SECTION 704.06 STANDARD EASEMENT WITH SOME SPECIFIC ALLOWANCES, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY SPELLED OUT IN THE OFFER.

PERHAPS THAT'S SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT HAVING THAT MADE VERY CLEAR AND THE OFFER BEFORE WE RANK IT.

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT WOULD BE.

I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING REAL ESTATE WILL NEGOTIATE.

EVERYTHING IN THE SEA.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT.

EXCUSE ME? THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMITTEE WOULD WANT TO SEE BEFORE THEY WOULD PROCEED? WOULD BE WHAT IS NEGOTIATED WITH THE SELLER? IT'S A QUESTION. IT'S A JAB, AT LEAST IN MY RESPONSE.

I THINK THE THE PACKET DOES PROVIDE A DECENT AMOUNT OF INFORMATION FROM THE SELLER.

IT DOES SUGGESTING THAT THE DETAILS THAT MIGHT BE IN THE DOCUMENT WHICH HELPS I THINK IN MY ASSESSMENT, I JUST, YOU KNOW, UNTIL THERE'S A, A DOCUMENT THAT BOTH ARE GOING TO SORT OF AGREE TO THAT CAN CHANGE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, OUR ROLE TO WORK OUT THOSE DETAILS.

I THINK IT'S PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH STAFF.

WELL, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, EXCEPT THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME AND, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THE COUNTY HAS EVER REAL ESTATE.

THEY'RE VERY EXPERIENCED.

BUT HAVE THEY EVER NEGOTIATED A CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

AND THAT'S A GOOD IF THEY HAVEN'T THEN THEY'RE GOING TO YOU KNOW, IT'S I IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A NEGOTIATION.

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AND YOU'RE RIGHT. THE PACKAGE HAS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION.

SO WE WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD IDEA, YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROHIBITIONS AND AND ALLOWANCES WOULD BE.

BUT IT'S I'M JUST SPEAKING OUT LOUD.

YEAH I THINK I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD IDEA TO REQUEST MAYBE, IF NOT JUST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM STAFF BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, BUT POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, JUST A PRESENTATION OR SOMETHING GIVING US A LITTLE BIT MORE INSIGHT INTO THE EASEMENT SIDE OF THINGS AND HOW THE COUNTY IS GOING TO LOOK AT APPROACHING THESE.

BECAUSE I'M ALSO NOT AWARE OF THE COUNTY REALLY HOLDING CONSERVATION EASEMENTS PRIOR TO THIS.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS BUILT INTO THE THE LAMP ORDINANCE.

SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A NEW PROCESS FOR A LOT OF FOLKS.

BUT MIGHT GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE OF COMFORT AND REASSURANCE AND IN THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE'D BE PUTTING FORWARD.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD.

WE WANT TO TRY TO GO AHEAD AND AND RANK IT, SEE HOW, SEE HOW IT COMES OUT.

OKAY. THEN WE WILL START DOWN AT THE END WITH MR. FLOWERS. I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE.

I HAD SIMILAR CONCERNS, BUT MY OVERALL SCORE IS 52.

-55. MY SCORE IS 69.

63. AND I THINK IT WAS YOU, ELIZABETH, THAT SUGGESTED MAYBE A WELL, SOMEBODY SAID AN ASTERIX, BUT SOME SORT OF NOTE THAT NOTIFIES THAT THIS IS A CONSERVATION EASEMENT RANKING THAT MAY SCORE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY AS OPPOSED TO AN ACQUISITION.

I GAVE A VERY HIGH SCORE, 82, BECAUSE UNLIKE THE REST OF YOU, I DID NOT ASSUME THAT PUBLIC ACCESS WOULD BE EXCLUDED.

I WAS KIND OF ASSUMING THAT SOMETHING WOULD BE WORKED OUT.

I UNDERSTAND THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE COUNTY WILL NOT HAVE TITLE TO THIS PROPERTY, AND BUT UNDER THIS EASEMENT, I THOUGHT SOME NEGOTIATING MIGHT TAKE PLACE.

AND THEY SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED HOW UNDER THE EASEMENT THE SELLERS WANT TO USE THE PROPERTY.

SO I WAS THINKING OF IT MORE FROM THAT ANGLE.

OH, THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO RETAIN THE RIGHTS TO USE IT FOR THESE SPECIFIC PURPOSES.

AND THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE MORE LEEWAY IN DECIDING OTHER USES.

SO THAT WAS WHY MY SCORE ENDED UP SO HIGH, BECAUSE THE EXCELLENT LOCATION ALONG PELLICER CREEK AND THE BOUNDARIES AND ALL THAT. SO THAT'S MY SCORE.

ALL RIGHT, SO I HAVE A 55.

I SCORED A 52 DUE TO THE LIMITATIONS FOR RECREATIONAL ACCESS AND PUBLIC USAGE.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, I THINK I SAID 42.

I SEE 44 IS MY SCORE.

IF I DID SAY 42, IT'S 44.

OKAY. HALEY, DID YOU WERE YOU ABLE TO CAPTURE ALL THOSE? YEAH. LET ME JUST REDO THE AVERAGE WITH HIS ADDITIONAL.

OKAY.

THE AVERAGE SCORE COMES OUT TO 59.

OH, AND I JUST REALIZED WE NEGLECTED TO TAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.

NOT SEEING ANY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

COMMENT. GOING BACK TO THIS.

AND THIS IS A THING THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT AND I GUESS CONCERNED ME A LITTLE BIT WHEN I WAS DOING THE SCORING ON THIS ONE.

THAT IS IN TERMS OF OUR ULTIMATE RANKING, I KNOW THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND REEVALUATE WHEN WE DO OUR ULTIMATE RANKING, BUT AT THE END OF THE YEAR BUT I GUESS I WAS CONCERNED THAT AS WE DO THESE PIECEMEAL THROUGH THE YEAR IN TERMS OF THE FINAL RANKING, WE MIGHT LOOK AT THEM

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SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.

YEAH, DEFINITELY GOOD PERSPECTIVE TO KEEP IN MIND.

BUT YEAH, I CERTAINLY WROTE DOWN A NUMBER OF OF NOTES AND QUESTIONS AND THINGS RELATED TO CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.

AND I THINK THERE'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR FOR SOME MORE DISCUSSION AND FOLLOW UP AT OUR NEXT MEETING.

ALL RIGHT.

[2. 605 Faver Dykes Rd.- First review (second submittal under new owner)]

IF WE ARE READY TO MOVE ON, WE'VE GOT 605 FAVOR DIKES.

ROAD APPLICATION.

THIS ONE HAS COME BEFORE THE BOARD BEFORE BUT IT WAS SOLD, AND NOW IT'S BEING SUBMITTED BY THE NEW OWNER.

SO WE ARE TREATING THIS AS A FIRST REVIEW OF THE PROPERTY.

SO, HALEY. OKAY.

SO QUICKLY THIS IS A 1.16 ACRE LOT.

IT'S PARTIALLY FORESTED PINE FLATWOODS.

WE DID GET A RESPONSE FROM PARKS AND REC THAT THERE ARE SOME ACCESS ISSUES, AND THE LOT IS MOSTLY WETLANDS. SO THERE'S NOT A CURRENT DESIRE FROM PARKS AND REC FOR THIS PROPERTY TO MANAGE.

AND IT IS JUST EAST OF THE PROPERTY WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING ON THE EAST SIDE OF 95.

OKAY. THANKS, HALEY.

I GUESS I CAN START WITH MY OWN COMMENTS HERE.

I KIND OF WENT AHEAD AND WENT THROUGH THE MENTAL EXERCISE OF KIND OF THE RANKING THAT I WOULD ASSIGN THIS PROPERTY, AND I CAN SAY THAT MINE WOULD BE VERY LOW.

PROBABLY NOT MEETING THE THRESHOLD.

SO I DON'T FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT MOVING THIS ONE FORWARD.

MR. MILLER. SORRY, I DON'T THINK I AGREE WITH REC AND PARKS.

THERE IS ACCESS BECAUSE THE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY ASSUMING THE COUNTY PARCEL DATA IS CORRECT THAT THERE IS A, A PLATTED ROAD THAT COMES RIGHT UP TO THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY OFF OF PARADISE ROAD.

SO JUST I THINK THERE I BELIEVE THERE IS LEGAL PUBLIC ACCESS.

JUST JUST TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

COMMENTS. QUESTIONS.

I WASN'T INTERESTED IN IT LAST TIME.

NOT INTERESTED IN IT THIS TIME.

OKAY. THANKS.

OTHERS. OKAY.

SOMEWHAT PREPARED WITH A.

OH, SORRY, I KEEP FORGETTING ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.

IT'S QUIET. AUDIENCE.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO? ALL RIGHT BRINGING IT BACK TO THE BOARD THEN.

HAS ANYONE PREPARED WITH A MOTION FOR THIS ONE? GO FOR IT. I MOVE THAT WE PASS ON THIS POTENTIAL ACQUISITION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? I'LL SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION.

OKAY. MR. FLOWERS SECONDS.

DISCUSSION. OKAY.

CHARLES AND I HAVE SHARED OUR OPINIONS.

ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO DISCUSS? IT'S NOTEWORTHY THAT IT WOULDN'T BE DESIRABLE FOR PARKS AND REC.

AND, YOU KNOW, WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS AS WELL.

THE COST PER ACRE IS REALLY HIGH AND THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY IS REALLY SMALL.

SO TO MY MIND THAT HAD A GREAT INFLUENCE ON MY DECISION.

SO AT THIS POINT I WOULD AGREE TO PASS ON THIS.

OKAY, SO THE SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO NOT MOVE THIS PROPERTY TO THE SECOND PHASE OF EVALUATION.

ALL IN FAVOR WITH THE MOTION, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED? PLEASE SAY NAY. OKAY, SO THE MOTION IS UNANIMOUS.

THE PROPERTY WILL NOT MOVE ON TO THE SECOND REVIEW.

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[3. Conceptual Management Plans Discussion for 2023 approved property list]

HALEY, DO YOU WANT TO KIND OF PROVIDE A LITTLE CONTEXT HERE FOR US? SURE. SO THE APPROVED PROPERTY LIST THAT YOU GUYS RECOMMENDED TO THE BCC WAS APPROVED LAST MONTH.

IT IS RIGHT HERE.

IT INCLUDES THE SHORES BOULEVARD PROPERTY, BISHOP ESTATES ROAD PROPERTY, 5960 DON MANUEL ROAD, 88 0581 SOUTH HAWKINS ISLAND AND 4250 POPOLI ROAD.

THE HAWKINS ISLAND PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT.

SO AT THIS POINT, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE OKAY IF THE BOARD WAITS TO DISCUSS THIS IN THE TERMS OF THE CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLAN.

BECAUSE IT MIGHT FALL OFF THE LIST.

I DO HAVE THE PROPERTIES RIGHT HERE FOR DISCUSSION.

SO I CAN PULL THOSE UP AS WE ARE DISCUSSING THEM.

SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER IS THAT THE CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLANS DO NOT NEED TO BE APPROVED BY YOU GUYS UNTIL THE ACQUISITION IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN. SO WE HAVE SOME TIME ON THIS.

THERE'S NO NEED TO RUSH IT.

YOU GUYS CAN GO FORWARD AND DISCUSS IT HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE.

BUT JUST TO KEEP IN MIND, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT COMING UP ON A DEADLINE FOR THESE.

AND ALSO, ONE OTHER THING IS, SINCE THE LAST TIME YOU GUYS LOOKED AT CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLANS, OUR FORM HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.

YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED.

SO JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.

WE TRIED TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE STREAMLINED.

ALL RIGHT. THANKS, HALEY.

SO CERTAINLY OPEN TO IDEAS FROM OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ON ON WAYS WE CAN GO ABOUT THIS, BUT JUST KNOWING THAT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS EXERCISE, YOU KNOW, STAFF IS REALLY ASKING US TO PULL TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, GENERAL IDEAS, KIND OF AN OUTLINE OF A PLAN.

JUST MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE SOME OF THE LARGER MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVES AND THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

OR CONVERSELY, IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE SPECIFICALLY WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST NOT HAPPEN ON THE PROPERTIES THAT WE CAPTURE THOSE I THINK LARGELY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE FIRST ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE ROWS, THE PROPERTY NAME, THE PARCEL, THE ADDRESS, THE DESCRIPTION, AND MOSTLY THE PURPOSE AND GOALS OF THE ACQUISITION HAVE BEEN PRETTY WELL CAPTURED IN A LOT OF THE MATERIALS THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED BY STAFF. SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, AND AGAIN, OPEN TO YOUR THOUGHTS, IS TO FOCUS ON THE MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVES AND METHODS AND THE PROPOSED INFRASTRUCTURE AND IMPROVEMENT SECTIONS FOR TODAY'S DISCUSSION.

ALSO, JUST SO WE DON'T GET STUCK HERE FOR HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS TALKING ABOUT DETAILS, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS HALEY MENTIONED, WE WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME FOR THESE.

DON'T EXPECT ANY OF THE PROPERTIES TO BE ACQUIRED IN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS OR EVEN PROBABLY THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS.

SO WE CAN WORK ON MAYBE GATHERING THOUGHTS FOR THOSE SECTIONS, PULL TOGETHER A DRAFT, WHICH WE COULD LOOK AT AGAIN AT OUR NEXT.

MY THOUGHT.

HAPPY TO HEAR FROM OTHERS, MISS ROBBINS.

TO TWO THOUGHTS I THINK IF A PROPERTY IS ELIGIBLE FOR SOME OF THE THE GRANT FUNDING THAT'S OUT THERE THOSE REQUIRE MANAGEMENT PLANS AS PART OF THE GRANT APPLICATION AS WELL.

SO I THINK THAT KIND OF DOING AN OVERLAY OF, OF WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE GRANT FUNDING, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO PROVIDE PROGRAMING? ARE WE GOING TO PROVIDE EDUCATIONAL SIGNAGE? ARE WE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO HERE? THAT, THAT I THINK IDENTIFYING THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE AND WHICH GRANTS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR, I THINK IS KEY BEFORE WE START ON ANY MANAGEMENT PLANS ON OUR END OF IT, SO THAT IT'S ALL COINCIDING AND WORKING IN TANDEM.

THE OTHER THING, AGAIN, BECAUSE MOST OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE VACANT.

BUT HOWEVER, ONE OF THEM IS, IS ABSOLUTELY NOT VACANT AND IS ALREADY HEAVILY PROGRAMED.

I THINK IN SOME CASES IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO HAVE A GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS ASSIST IN THAT SO THAT WE DON'T MISS THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, MIGHT NOT BE OBVIOUS TO US OR TO STAFF, BUT HAVE STAKEHOLDERS JUST, YOU KNOW, IN ON THE CONVERSATION, ON IT.

AND I'LL JUST TELL YOU, BECAUSE THEY'RE KNOCKING ON MY DOOR EVERY DAY.

AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD TO INVOLVE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY INVOLVED IN PROGRAMING.

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SO WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THOSE.

YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

AND YOU JUST REMINDED ME OF SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN OUR CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLAN TEMPLATE THAT I THINK IS ALSO WORTH MENTIONING THAT THIS IS CONCEPTUAL.

THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE, DENY OR CREATE A DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT PLAN.

MORE DETAILED INFORMATION FOR THE MANAGEMENT PLAN WILL BE DEVELOPED AFTER THE APPROVAL OF ACQUISITION.

AND THAT WILL INCLUDE THINGS LIKE THE MANAGEMENT, STAKEHOLDER COORDINATION, MAINTENANCE, SECURITY, RECREATIONAL FEATURES, PARKING, LANDSCAPING.

ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

ALL THE DETAILED STUFF.

RIGHT. THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN LATER.

BUT IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER.

OTHER THOUGHTS BEFORE WE TAKE A STAB AT THIS.

IN THE CASE OF THE SHORES, WHEN ACTUALLY IT'S A TERRIBLE NAME.

I THINK WE SHOULD COME UP WITH A BETTER NAME THAN SHORES BOULEVARD, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S I MEAN, IT'S BEING CONSIDERED FOR MOSES CREEK CONSERVATION AREA ADDITION, SO MAYBE THAT'S EVEN A BETTER NAME. BUT WHATEVER, SOMETHING WITH MATANZAS IN IT WOULD BE BETTER.

BUT ANYWAY SINCE THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT HAS SAID AND EXPRESSED AN INTEREST AND SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE MANAGING IT.

THIS IS KIND OF GETTING AHEAD OF I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO BE WRITING.

THEY'RE JUST GOING TO ABSORB IT INTO THEIR MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR, I MEAN, NEXT ITERATION OF THE MANAGEMENT PLAN, THEY WILL INCLUDE THE PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT THEY'LL COME UP WITH THEIR OWN VERSION OF A MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY IF IT'S ACQUIRED.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.

I MEAN, IF REC AND PARKS IS GOING TO BE MANAGING EX, SAME THING.

WE'RE NOT DOUBLE DIPPING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT WORD IS, BUT WE'RE NOT.

IT'S DEFINITELY NOT THE TERM, BUT WE'RE BECAUSE WHAT REC AND PARKS WOULD RECOMMEND WOULD BE PROBABLY LIKELY VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST.

I'M ASSUMING WE DON'T WANT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.

THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE.

THAT WAS. I WAS TRYING TO SAY THANK YOU.

NOT DOUBLE DIPPING. CLEARLY.

YES, I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, BUT I KNOW WE'RE REQUIRED.

WE ARE REQUIRED.

I UNDERSTAND BY THE ORDINANCE TO PULL SOMETHING TOGETHER, WHICH IS WHY WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS.

LET'S KEEP THIS AS HIGH LEVEL AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

I KNOW IT KIND OF FEELS SILLY TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

THAT'S THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

AND STAFF IS ASKING THAT WE PLEASE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, PULL SOMETHING, PULL SOMETHING TOGETHER.

I THINK IT CAN BE AS HIGH LEVEL IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SHORES BOULEVARD PROPERTY, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVES WOULD BE ECOSYSTEM PROTECTION, RESTORATION, OUTDOOR RESOURCE BASED RECREATION, AND CULTURAL RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.

YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S THAT'S THE LEVEL I WOULD LIKE US TO KEEP THE DISCUSSION AT JUST SO WE DON'T DIVE.

BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, AFTER THE PROCESS, MORE MANAGEMENT PLANS ARE GOING TO BE CREATED.

WE ALSO CAN'T ASSUME THAT THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT WILL MANAGE THE PROPERTY.

SO FOR THIS DISCUSSION, EVERYONE CAN JUST ENTERTAIN ME WITH AT LEAST THAT PORTION OF IT.

AND I'LL JUST REITERATE, IF WE IF WE CAN LOOK AT THE SHORES BOULEVARD PROPERTY, THOSE THOSE WOULD BE THE THREE HIGH LEVEL MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVES THAT I WOULD SUGGEST.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IN THEIR EXERCISE CAME UP WITH OTHER IDEAS THAT WE'D WANT TO ADD.

OKAY. PROPOSED INFRASTRUCTURE AND IMPROVEMENTS.

SO WE WOULD WANT TO INCLUDE TRAILS, POSSIBLY SOME PARKING AMENITIES AND IMPROVED ACCESS, A KIOSK AND SOME INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE.

OTHER THOUGHTS? PER POTENTIAL WATER ACCESS.

OKAY. OTHERS FENCING OF THE PERIMETER, OKAY.

AND ASSUREDLY A FIRE BREAK ALONG THAT PERIMETER.

OKAY. FENCING WITH FIREBREAKS.

OTHER IDEAS. OKAY, SO EVERYBODY GOOD TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.

ALL RIGHT.

OH, SURE. GO AHEAD.

HAVE A QUESTION? DID WE GO THROUGH THIS FOR THE ANASTASIA LAKES PROPERTY THAT WAS ACQUIRED LAST YEAR? BECAUSE I MIGHT HAVE MISSED THAT MEETING, OR I DON'T RECALL CREATING THIS CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THAT PROPERTY.

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BUT WE'RE NOW GOING BACK TO THE LANGUAGE AS IT'S WRITTEN IN THE ORDINANCE THAT THEY'D LIKE US TO, TO USE THIS PROCESS INSTEAD.

SO WE DID, BUT WE DID NOT GO THROUGH IT THIS WAY.

OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE DID THEN.

NO. OKAY.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON SHORES BOULEVARD? THINGS WE WANT TO CAPTURE.

OKAY, IF YOU HAVE MORE IDEAS, WE CAN ALWAYS ADD THEM TO THE TO THE TEMPLATE LATER.

BISHOP ESTATES, I THINK THIS ONE WE RECEIVED SOME REALLY FANTASTIC INFORMATION FROM MISS ROBBINS ABOUT PROGRAMING AND PROPOSED INFRASTRUCTURE.

I'VE GOT THAT LONG LIST HERE ABOUT PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS.

IT INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM PARKING IMPROVEMENTS, IMPROVED ACCESS PAVILIONS, POTENTIALLY SOME ACCESS TO THE WATERWAYS, AND THEN A GREAT LIST OF PROPOSED PROGRAMING CONSIDERATIONS WHICH INCLUDE EVERYTHING FROM EQUINE THERAPY TO THERAPEUTIC GARDENING PROGRAMS. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE PULL LARGELY FROM FROM THAT LIST, UNLESS ANYONE HAD ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS OR THINGS THEY'D WANT TO SEE IN THE PLAN.

IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH.

BECAUSE TO ME, THAT'S A LITTLE DEEP IN THE WEEDS.

I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY WHERE THE THE CURRENT USERS WANT TO GO WITH IT, AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT'S GOOD WITH IT AND ALL THAT, BUT BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S TOO DEEP IN THE WEEDS, I'M OKAY WITH IT BEING NOT AS DEEP.

BUT JUST, YOU KNOW BUT YEAH, THAT IS THE EVENTUAL WHERE WHERE WE HOPE TO END UP.

THEY'VE BEEN OUT TO DO AN APPRAISAL.

MM.HMM. ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? WELL, AT LEAST PULL TOGETHER AND DRAFT AND SEE WHAT WE THINK.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ALONG THEN TO DON MANUEL, THE 59 60 DON MANUEL ROAD PROPERTY. THIS ONE OBVIOUSLY WAS PROPOSED PRETTY MUCH PURELY FOR PRESERVATION.

SO FROM A MANAGEMENT CONTEXT, I COULD SEE JUST REGULAR MONITORING, POTENTIALLY INVASIVE SPECIES TREATMENTS, BUT NOT CURRENTLY PROPOSING ANY REAL INFRASTRUCTURE OR IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT'S. YEAH. WAS THIS ONE WHERE WE WANTED TO CONTACT THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT ABOUT.

SINCE IT IS DIRECTLY IF I'M.

MY MEMORY IS CORRECT, IT'S DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO DEEP CREEK CONSERVATION AREA.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT ME TO DO? MR. CHAIRMAN. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DIRECT YOU TO DO THAT, BUT I ASKED, I ASKED.

SURE, THAT'D BE GREAT.

I WILL DO THAT. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT. WE'RE DOING GREAT, Y'ALL.

WE JUST HAVE ONE MORE.

THIS IS THE WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE 8805 A-1-A SOUTH PROPERTY.

SO DURING OUR DISCUSSIONS A COUPLE OF THINGS HAD COME UP AND WERE INCLUDED IN SOME OF OUR PROPERTY INFORMATION SHEETS ABOUT THIS PROPERTY HAVING THE POTENTIAL TO PROVIDE PUBLIC ACCESS POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, PICNIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR HISTORIC AND CULTURAL INTERPRETATION THROUGH SIGNAGE.

THE ONE ONE THING I DO WANT TO MENTION, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HERE, BUT SOME ADJACENT LANDOWNERS DID SEND SOME COMMENTS RELATED TO THIS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER USES FOR THIS PROPERTY THAT DO NOT ALLOW ACCESS ONTO THE ROCK REVETMENT THAT IS CONSIDERED PRIVATE PROPERTY AND NOT PUBLIC.

A PORTION OF IT IS WITHIN THIS PROPERTY AND A PORTION IS NOT.

AND THEY'D ALSO JUST LIKE TO FOR US TO CONSIDER THE HOURS OF USE OF THIS PROPERTY AS IT'S IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

SO THOSE ARE TWO COMMENTS THAT I WOULD INCLUDE IN OUR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION CATEGORY, JUST SO THOSE THINGS ARE CAPTURED.

BUT OTHER OTHER THOUGHTS COMMENTS WE WANT TO CAPTURE FOR MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVES.

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YEAH, SORRY, I DON'T HAVE A MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVE THING, BUT I HAD BROUGHT THIS UP, YOU KNOW, LAST MEETING, PROBABLY WHEN I WAS HERE.

AND IN THE INTERIM, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THIS AS FAR AS ACQUISITION GOES THE THE STATE GAVE THE COUNTY. THE THE NUMBER IN MY HEAD IS $25 MILLION LAST YEAR FOR PROPERTY ACQUISITION IN SUMMER HAVEN AREA. SO THAT DEMOLISHED THINGS WOULD NOT BE REBUILT BASICALLY.

AND FOR THE COUNTY TO ACQUIRE STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO I SPENT A LITTLE TIME WHILE I WAS IN TALLAHASSEE TRYING TO FIND A MAP.

IF THERE HAD BEEN A MAP FOR THAT, THERE IS NOT.

THE COUNTY CAN DRAW ITS OWN MAP, SO THERE IS POTENTIAL IN.

THIS IS MOSTLY SHORTY'S OPINION 101, BUT IN THE RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE THAT SOME OF THAT MONEY MAY BE AVAILABLE FOR ACQUISITION OF THIS AND IT JUST BE ACQUIRED TO REMAIN VACANT AND NOT BE IMPACTED BY FUTURE STORMS. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A MANAGEMENT DESCRIPTION FOR RESILIENCE.

I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I, WHERE I WOULD PUT THIS CATEGORY.

JUST DON'T DO ANYTHING THERE.

IT'LL ABSORB SOME OF THE WATER THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE GO ON TO OTHER PROPERTIES AND FLOODS WHICH ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.

WELL, WHATEVER.

YOU CAN PUT SOME INFRASTRUCTURE IN, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT THAT CAN GET WET.

I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH.

OKAY, GREAT.

OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT OR ON PROPOSED INFRASTRUCTURE AND IMPROVEMENTS YOU WANT TO CAPTURE? OKAY. SO FOR MY UNDERSTANDING.

SO THIS WOULD BASICALLY BE MORE SO THIS WOULDN'T REALLY EVEN BE PASSIVE RECREATIONAL BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT ALLOW FISHING.

BUT THERE WOULD BE ROOM FOR INTERPRETATION HERE.

SO MAYBE PUT SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT THAT FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES.

I THINK I SENT SOME INFORMATION TO YOU BEFORE YOU PRESENTED TO THE BOARD, BUT ANYTHING THAT GOES ON THE GROUND ON THAT PROPERTY IS GOING TO ESSENTIALLY NEED SOME SORT OF SURVEY.

SO SOMETHING LIKE A PICNIC BENCH, IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PUT IN THE GROUND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT THAT THERE.

BUT ANYTHING ELSE, EVEN SIGNAGE FOR INTERPRETATION IS GOING TO DEFINITELY REQUIRE SOME LEVEL OF SURVEYING JUST BECAUSE OF THE RESOURCES THAT ARE COULD BE ON THAT PROPERTY.

IT JUST REQUIRES LOOKING INTO IT MORE.

SO JUST CONTEXT.

YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

THE ARCHEOLOGICAL MANAGEMENT ALSO PARKING.

WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT IT DOESN'T BECOME A PARKING LOT FOR THE FISHERMEN AND THE BEACH USERS, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE INTENT.

THE PARKING. YEAH. YOU CAN HAVE A FEW PARKING SPACES, JUST LIKE ANY SMALL YOU KNOW, GREEN SPACE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, BUT.

I KNOW.

AND PLEASE EXCUSE ME, ANYBODY FROM THE COUNTY.

BUT THE COUNTY IS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR AS MANY PARKING SPOTS AS THEY CAN CLOSE TO THE BEACH BECAUSE IT HELPS THEM OUT.

AND THIS IS NOT, TO ME, A PROPERTY THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR THAT.

SO I THINK SOME LANGUAGE IN OUR CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT THIS IS.

MINIMALISTIC IN HOW WE APPROACH THIS.

OKAY. ALL GOOD THOUGHTS.

ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT TO CAPTURE TODAY ON THIS OR ANY OTHER PROPERTIES? ANY OTHER IDEAS? OH, SURE. WAYNE WAS TALKING ABOUT RESILIENCY.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE WHAT'S THE RIGHT WORD.

THAT WOULD BE THE TALKING POINTS THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLAN.

THAT IS IN OUR MINDS, IF WE AGREE AS A GROUP THAT THIS WOULD BE A PROPERTY WITH RESILIENCY BEING ITS ITS MAIN PURPOSE. OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU EVERYONE.

FOR GOING THROUGH THAT EXERCISE.

WE AT LEAST HAVE ENOUGH TO PULL TOGETHER A DRAFT AND THEN CAN BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD AT OUR JULY MEETING.

IN CASE THERE ARE OTHER COMMENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WANT TO CAPTURE IN THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

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PROPERLY. THREE.

WE'RE SKIPPING HAWKINS.

WE'RE PUTTING HAWKINS ON HOLD BECAUSE OF A CONTRACT.

BUT THE LAST ONE THAT'S ON THERE IS.

POPOLI OR POPOLI. HOWEVER, IT'S PRONOUNCED ROAD.

OH, WELL, THE COMMISSION ONLY APPROVED THE TOP FIVE.

OKAY. NEVER MIND.

YEAH. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE TOP FIVE MINUS HAWKINS RIGHT NOW.

BECAUSE THAT ONE'S UNDER CONTRACT.

THANK YOU. YEP.

YEAH. THERE'S ALWAYS, ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY IT COULD ROLL UP IN THE FUTURE.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO STAFF REPORTS.

[Staff Reports]

YES. RYAN PROVIDED KIND OF A LIST OF UPDATES FOR ME TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS, SO JUST BEAR WITH ME AS I GO THROUGH THEM ALL.

FIRST THING IS, THE CURRENT BUDGET IS $3,294,989.39, TO BE EXACT.

LET'S SEE THE LIST THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED THAT WE JUST WENT OVER CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLANS THAT IS CURRENTLY WITH REAL ESTATE. AND THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THEIR PROCESS, WHICH IS SOMETIMES A LENGTHY ONE.

SO I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THIS WAS PROVIDED BY REAL ESTATE TO GIVE YOU GUYS JUST A QUICK RUNDOWN OF THEIR PROCESS.

THE FIRST STEP IS THE DIRECTION FROM THE BCC THAT THEY THAT REAL ESTATE CAN START TO PURSUE THE ACQUISITIONS. AND THE FIRST, THE NEXT STEP IS NEGOTIATION.

NEGOTIATION. THAT STARTS WITH APPRAISAL.

ANY PROPERTIES THAT ARE OVER $500,000 REQUIRE A SECOND APPRAISAL.

SO THAT CAN TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, ONCE REAL ESTATE WORKS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND GETS A PRICE SETTLED ON, THAT CONTRACT WILL BE TAKEN TO THE BCC FOR APPROVAL.

IF THAT GETS APPROVED, THEN WE WILL ENTER INTO THE DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS AND DO DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN THE CLOSING COORDINATION.

THE ESTIMATED TOTAL DAYS FOR ACQUISITION IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN 200 AND 50 5 TO 465 OR MORE DAYS.

AND THAT IS JUST AN ESTIMATE.

IT COULD BE LESS. IT COULD BE MORE.

THAT'S JUST THE GENERAL PROCESS.

NEXT, WE HAVE JUST A REMINDER TO THE BOARD MEMBERS TO BE SEEKING WILLING SELLERS FOR THE PROGRAM.

AND ALSO A REMINDER THAT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY, YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO APPLY FOR STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS FOR THESE PROPERTIES. AS FAR AS THE SHORES BOULEVARD PROPERTY, YOU GUYS ARE AWARE THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THIS.

STAFF HAS MET WITH DEP TO WORK WITH THEM THROUGH SOME ADDITIONAL POSSIBLE GRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO STAFF IS WORKING THROUGH WHICH GRANTS THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY APPLY FOR.

AND THEN AN UPDATE ON THE RIVERDALE ATLANTIC ROAD 30 ACRE PROPERTY.

THE THE PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT WAS INCONCLUSIVE.

SO THE BOARD DID TERMINATE THAT PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT.

THE COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH MCCULLOUGH CREEK PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY IN NEGOTIATIONS STILL WITH THE REAL ESTATE.

AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL TRY TO ANSWER OR GET THEM TO RYAN.

OKAY. NOT SEEING ANY QUESTIONS.

HALEY. SO YOU LUCKED OUT.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO BOARD REPORTS, AND WE'LL START DOWN AT THIS END.

[Board Member Reports]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I DO NOT HAVE ANY REPORTS MORE SITTING BACK AND LISTENING AT THIS JUNCTURE AND HAVING MORE COMMENTS TO BE MADE.

NOTHING TO REPORT AT THIS TIME.

I'VE REACHED OUT TO SOME SELLERS.

I HAVE YET TO HEAR BACK.

HOPE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO REPORT, THOUGH AT THE NEXT MEETING, SO THANK YOU.

I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT AT THIS MEETING.

THANK YOU.

NO REPORT.

NONE FOR ME.

I AM HAPPY TO BE BACK AND THE LEGISLATURE HAS DONE THEIR JOB FOR THIS YEAR.

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COME ON, COME ON OUT.

GIVE ME A HOLLER AND I'LL GIVE YOU A TOUR.

ONE AT A TIME. YEAH, ONE AT A TIME.

WELL, NO, WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON IT.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW, BUT GENERALLY, ONE AT A TIME, I DON'T GENERALLY.

NOT A GOOD IDEA. OKAY.

BUT. ALL RIGHT. YEAH.

I MEAN, THEORETICALLY, AS LONG IT'D BE HARD NOT TO TALK ABOUT THE BUSINESS BEFORE THE, THE BOARD BECAUSE WE'RE THERE.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE THERE TO DO. IT NOT REALLY.

JUST COME SEE IT. SO ANYWAY, JUST.

I JUST WANT TO SAY GLAD TO HAVE SHAWTY BACK.

AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO GO OUT AND SEE IT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, IT IS 221.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS, EVERYBODY. NO WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO WITH IT TODAY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.