[1. Confirmation of Daniel Whitcraft as Facilities Management Director. Daniel Whitcraft has been selected as the Facilities Management Director and will be starting on March 4, 2024. Mr. Whitcraft is well versed in the unique aspects of managing facilities for local governments including jails, courthouses, courtrooms, medical examiners offices, and more. Additionally, he has experience working with constitutional officers, judges, and various county departments such as Fire Rescue and Parks and Recreation. Mr. Whitcraft has ten years of experience working for Alachua County and four years of facilities management at the University of Florida. At UF, he oversaw critical operations such as managing the university’s veterinary hospital, HVAC chiller assets, building envelopes of 450 buildings, and 46 miles of underground piping for chilled water and steam. His past experiences highlight his extensive understanding and adeptness in handling complex facilities and infrastructure. Mr. Whitcraft has a Master’s Degree in Facilities Management/ Construction Management, is a Certified Facilities Manager with the International Facilities Management Association, and is a State of Florida Certified General Contractor.]

NUMBER 3. >> THAT IS APPROVED 5-0. OKAY.

ON TON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. >> GOOD MORNING. IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS FROM THE SIDE AND WOULD LIKE TO INVITE MR. DANIEL WITCRAFT AND MR. BEN WRIGHT TO BE AT THE FRONT CENTER FOR YOU TO MEET AND ASK QUESTIONS.

AGENDA NUMBER 1 FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE NEW FACILITY MANAGEMENT DIRECT I HAVE. I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE SELECTED MR. DANIEL WITCRAFT WHO ACCEPTED THE POSITION OF FACILITY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR. AND BASED ON FLORIDA STATUTE IN CONFIRMATION OF A DIRECTOR POSITION REQUIRES THE BOARD'S APPROVAL. SO HERE WE ARE. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MR. DAN WITCRAFT TO BE AT THE FRONT. SO YOU KNOW HE IS HERE. DAN HAS NOT STARTED WITH ST. JOHN'S COUNTY YESTERDAY. THE OFFICIAL DAY WILL BE MARCH 4TH.

CONDITION AN APPROVAL WITH THE BOARD. HE TOOK A PERSONAL DAY OFF TODAY TO BE HERE AND ALSO TAKE A TOUR WITH BEN WITH

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DIFFERENT FACILITIES. WE ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH A VERY EXTENSIVE NATIONAL SEARCH PROCESS. OUR PREVIOUS DIRECTOR OF FACILITY MANAGEMENT DECIDED THAT SHE WAS GOING TO PURSUE ANOTHER WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY WITHIN THE COUNTY. WITH THE REALLY GROWING NEEDS TO BE THE FACILITY MANAGEMENT AND THE COUNTY FACILITIES, WE KNEW THAT WE HAD TO DO A NATIONAL SEARCH TO FIND THE BEST. SO HERE WE ARE. WE ARE SO FORTUNATE AFTER A EXTENSIVE SEARCH, LED BY MR. BEN BRIGHT AND COLLIN GRAFT. WE RECEIVED OVER A HUNDRED APPLICATIONS AND 18 CANDIDATES WERE SELECTED FOR THE FIRST ROUND AND WE ENDED UP FOR 8 FOR THE I BELIEVE INTERVIEW. AND DAN CLEARLY PREVAILED. SO WE'RE EXCITED FOR HIS ON BOARDING. I'M GOING TO GO OVER A LITTLE BIT OF DAN'S CREDENTIALS. HE'LL BE JOINING US FROM LA WATCH COUNTY AND HE HAS EXPERIENCE WITH DEALING WITH WHAT WE NEED, CORE HOUSE, JAILS, COURTROOMS, MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICES, AND FIRE RESCUE AND FIRE PARKS AND RECREATION. HE HAS TEN YEARS EXPERIENCE WITH THE COUNTY AND FOUR YEARS EXPERIENCE WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA WHERE HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING THE UNIVERSITIES 480 BUILDINGS AND 46 MILES OF UNDERGROUND PIPING FOR CHILLED WATER AND STEAM SYSTEMS. HE HAS A MASTER DEGREE IN FACILITY MANAGEMENT AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND CERTIFIED WITH THE CITY MANAGER WITH THE CITY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION AND IS A STAYED OF FLORIDA CERTIFIED GENERAL CONTRACTOR. SO WITH HIS EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE, WE ARE EXCITED THAT HE WILL BRING TREMENDOUS VALUE TO THE NEEDS OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY FACILITIES. I DON'T WANT BEN TO GO ANYWHERE. I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT BEN AFTER WE CAN GET DAN CONFIRMED. I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A MOTION BEFORE THE BOARD TO CONFIRM MR. DANIEL WITCRAFT AS THE NEW FACILITY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR FROM SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> OKAY. WITH THAT, WE'LL GO

TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON CONFIRMATION OF DANIEL WITCRAFT AS THE FACILITY

MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR. >> MICHAEL MCDONALD. I WAS CURIOUS IF WE HAD ANY LETTER OF ENDORSEMENT FROM THE COLLEGE ITSELF OR THE COUNTY THAT HE IS COMING FROM? THAT IS INTENT OF THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE EXPERIENCE FROM THEM TO US.

THIS BOARD PUTS PEOPLE IN PLACE THAT HAVE OTHER MOTIVES. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE REFERENCES PROVIDED TO THEM BY THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND THE COUNTY POLICE. THANK YOU.

>> I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO THAT.

>> I WAS GOING ASK IF THERE WAS ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> NONE. WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> I'M HAPPY TO GET WITH MIKE AFTERWARDS TO SHARE WHATEVER INFORMATION WE ARE ALLOWED TOON FILE ABOUT THE REFERENCE CHECK

AND THE BACKGROUND CHECK. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, YOU SEEM TO HAVE AND I AM RESUME AND WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE

YOU. >> THIS IS A BIG HONOR TO HAVE BEEN CHOSEN FOR THIS POSITION P AND I VERY MUCH MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO BE PART OF THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY TEAM.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND? LET'S VOTE. 5-0.

>> WELCOME TO THE TEAM, SIR. >> WELCOME, COMMISSIONERS. I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT OUR OWN BEN BRIGHT AND THANK HIM FOR THE TRANSITIONAL SERVICES. HE SERVED AS THE INTERIM FACILITY MANAGEMENT FOR EIGHT MONTHS AND COUNTING. HE JUMPED IN WITH BOTH FEET. AND WHEN I ASKED HIM, IS IT GOING TO BE A LONG PROCESS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FINDING THE BEST

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ONE, WOULD YOU PLEASE SERVE. HE DID NOT HESITATE. HE DID NOT EVEN GO BACK TO ASK THE WIFE. I'M HAPPY TO SERVE HOWEVER YOU NEED ME. THAT IS THE REFLECTION OF HIS CHARACTER AND WORK ETHIC. HE DID A GREAT JOB OVER EIGHT MONTHS AND WE LISTED A FEW OF MANY PROJECTS THAT HE MANAGED DURING THE EIGHT MONTHS, EMERGENCY REPAIR TO CORRECTION RECREATION YARD AND POLICE OF CORE HOUSE AND TASK COLLECTOR'S BUILDING. SO I KNOW HE'S HERE TO SERVE AND WE APPRECIATE HIS HELP TO HELP MAKE THIS TRANSITION IS GO AS SMOOTHLY AS POLL. AND HE SET UP

A SOLID FOUNDATION FOR SUCCESS. >> THANK YOU, BEN, FOR YOUR

[2. Presentation of the St. Johns County Surplus and OPEB Investment Portfolios. The St. Johns County Board of County Commissioners Investment Policy, Section XVII Reporting, and OPEB Trust Investment Policy, Section XV, requires the Clerk, or designee, to prepare and submit a written report annually on all invested funds to the Board. Included in the report shall be a complete list of all invested funds, the name or type of security in which the funds are invested, the amount invested, the maturity date, earned income, the book value, the market value, and the yield on each investment. PFM Asset Management, LLC, is the County’s investment advisor and has prepared the annual reports for the quarter ended September 30, 2023.]

SERVICE. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. I THANK JOY AND THE COMMISSIONERS FOR HAVING FAITH IN ME TO LEAD THE DEPARTMENT FOR A SHORT PERIOD

OF TIME. >>> SO THAT LEADS US TO AGENDA

ITEM NUMBER 2. >> GOOD MORNING. FLORIDA STATUTE 21845. WE MANAGE THE POLICY INVESTMENTS SET BY NEW 2021. WE MANAGE IT WITH THREE OBJECTIVES IN MINE. AND JOINING US TODAY WITH PFM TO GO OVER LAST YEAR'S CALENDAR YEAR 2023'S PERFORMANCE WITH THE SURPLUS FUNDS AND OPEC.

>>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. I'M RICHARD.

WITH ME IS SCOTT SWEETEN. WE'RE BOTH FROM PFM MANAGEMENT THERE WAS A FORCE OF FOUNDATION. AND YOU YOU ELUDED TO THE WORD OF YOUR PROGRAM BENEFITED FROM THE HIGHER RATES OF EARNING. AND THE YIELD LEVELS THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST YEAR, WE HAVE NOT SEEN IN 15 YEARS. WE WERE IN THE NEAR ZERO INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT. THERE IS A SHORTER TERM PORTION THAT IS MATCHED TO THE UNDERLINING ABILITIES IN THE UNDERLINED FUNDS. IS IT WELL DIVERSIFIED IN TERMS OF BEING IN HIGH QUALITY AND WELL DIVERSIFIED IN THE MATURITY RANGES. IT IS IN BOTH COMPONENTS OF THE PORTFOLIO. IT IS IN THE POLICY THAT YOU SET AND THE POLICY SETS FORTH MANY DIFFERENT LIMITS IN TERMS OF CREDIT RATINGS IN IN TERMS OF MAXIMUM MATURITY AND ALLOCATION LIMITS AND EVERY TRADE THAT IS DONE IS IS CHECKED BEFORE AND AFTER. THEY WERE ALL CHECKED WITH THE MATURE. AND TESTIMONY IS ALL IN LINE. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT IS SHOWING LIKE THAT. BUT HOPE I THE VERSION IS NOT JUMBLED. THIS SHOWS A BREAKDOWN OF THE INDIVIDUAL HOLDINGS IN THE PORTFOLIO CATEGORIZED IF THEY'RE AGENCY SECURITIES, TREASURIES ET CETERA. ALL OF THOSE WERE WITHIN THE POLICY

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REQUIREMENTS. THE USA RATING IS AN A PLUS. SO A HIGH QUALITY PORTFOLIO, OVERALL. THE YIELD ON THE PORTFOLIO AT THE END OF THE YEAR WAS 3.75%. ANY NEW ASSETS GOING TO THE PORTFOLIO WILL BE INVESTED OR REINVESTED AT A 4.6 AT THAT POINT. FOR THE LOCKER PORTFOLIO, IT WENT TO FIVE YEAR. IT ALSO HAS AN AVERAGE CREDIT QUALITY INN AA. THE MATURITIES ARE A LITTLE LONGER. THEY ARE EXTEND FROM ONE YEAR OUT TO FIVE YEARS. THE YIELD ON COST IS A 305. AND NEW ASSETS ARE REINVESTMENTS AT

334. >>> THOSE ARE RETURN LEVELS THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN IN A DECADE. SIMILARLY IN THE ONE TO FIVE, THE RETURN WAS 4.09 VERSUS 2.2 FOR THE BENCHMARK.

I'LL END HERE SHOWING THE ACCRUAL EARNINGS IN BOTH PORTFOLIOS, 4.3 FOR THE SHORTER AND $695,000 FOR THE LONGER PORTFOLIO. SO I'LL PAUSE THERE. IS THAT THE SURPLUS FUNDS. SCHOOL WILL DETAIL ON THE OPEC FUND. ANY QUESTIONS ON

THE SURPLUS FUNDS? >> THIS IS THE ONLY TIME THAT WE CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER. I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A REVIEW OF -- WE HAD A MOTION OF DEI OF NOT BUYING THAT, RIGHT, LAST YEAR? DID WE GET OUT OF THOSE THINGS AND NOT BUY ANYMORE OF THAT? I THINK CHAIR WHITEHURST AT THE TIME.

>> YOUR POLICY NEVER HAD AN ESG. AN ENVIRONMENTAL SOCIAL GOVERNANCE MANDATE, THAT HAS NEVER BEEN PART OF YOUR INVESTMENT DECISION MAKING. IN JULY 1ST, 2023, A GROUP OF LAWS KIND OF REFERRED TO AS HB3 AND THAT MADE IT NOT LEGAL FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. THAT HAS NEVER BEEN PART OF YOUR INVESTMENT DECISION MAKING AND NOT PART OF THIS PORTFOLIO.

>> EXCELLENT. >> THANK YOU. JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MY INTENT WAS TO ENSURE IT COULD NEVER BE A PART OF OUR POLICY AND SUBSEQUENT LAWS PASSED. I THINK IT IS

OUTLAWED IN THE STATE. >> YES.

>> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS BAKED INTO OUR INVESTMENT

POLICY HERE LOCALLY. >> YOU MAY CONTINUE. GOOD MORNING. AS RICH STATED, I'M GOING TO REVIEW THE OPEB FUND.

I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT AS SIMPLIFIED AS I CAN FOR YOU. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, IS NOT LEGAL I BELIEVE -- THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE YEAR THAT WAS 5,254,244. AND THE ENDING MARKET VALUE ON 1231, 2023, YOU'LL LOOK AT 40,618, $621.

SO A SOLID YEAR WITH ALL THE VOLATILITY. AS YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE PERFORMANCE SLIDE HERE. WE APPROACH THIS WITH THE

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DIVERSIFIED STRUCTURE. YOU CAN SEE ON THE POSITIVE NOTED, THAT THE PORTFOLIO HAD A 9.71. YOU CAN SEE IN THE CALENDAR YEAR, WE HAD A SLIGHT UNDERPERFORMANCE OF THE BLENDED BENCHMARK. BUT AS WE LOOK OUT LONGER TERM, WHICH THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF THE FUND, IT IS BY DEFINITION, FIVE YEARS OR LONGER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, WE OUTPERFORMED.

WE HAD A RETURN OF 8.77%. IS IT 858. SINCE THE INCEPTION SINCE 2008. WE HAD POSSIBLE PERFORMANCE OF 7.11% AND THE BENCHMARK AT 6.27. THAT THE WRAP THAT UP. THE NEXT TWO OR THREE SLIDES WILL SHOW YOU THE ALLOCATION BREAK DOWN AND IT WILL SHOW YOU THE DOLLARS IN EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES. YOU HAD 17 MILLION, $50,555,000. THAT COMPRISED 43.32% OF THE PORT PORTFOLIO. THAT WILL SHOW YOU THE PERFORMANCE IN THOSE CATEGORIES. BASICALLY, APOLOGIZE ON THIS AS WELL. THE FORMAT IS OFF HERE. BUT THIS IS, AGAIN, AN ASSET ALLOCATION COMPLIANCE BREAKDOWN. WHAT WE'LL FOCUS ON HERE, THE CURRENT ALLOCATION IN DOMESTIC EQUITY IS 43.23%. THE TARGET IS 42%. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE IN LINE WITH THE TARGET. YOU HAVE 23.3%. THE TARGET ALLOCATION NUMBER IS 23%. AND FINALLY, FIXED INCOME, 33 AND A HALF%. AND THAT IS ALLOCATED TO THE PARTICULAR AREA AND OUR TARGET THERE IS 35%. SO, AGAIN, VERY INCREMENTAL DIFFERENCES WITH THE TARGET ALLOCATION THAT WE HAVE DESIGNED. AND THOSE WILL BE THE PREPARED MARKS I HAVE. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, IF YOU HAVE ANY.

>>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE FORMATTING ISSUES, THE AGENDA ONLINE IS CORRECT. SO IT IS

MUCH EASIER TO SEE. Ú>> THING T POINT, RIGHT?

>> YES. IF YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, COME FORWARD, YOU'LL

BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. >>> HEATHER HARDLY DAVIDSON. I SAW EARLIER THAT YOU ALL WERE GIVING ALL THE ACCOLADES FOR FINANCIAL ACHIEVEMENTS AND FRAUD. WE TALKED ABOUT FRAUD TODAY TOO. BUT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE 2.2 MILLION THAT WAS LOST TO FRAUD WITH COUNTY TAX DOLLARS. WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? I WAS AT A TRUMP MEETING AND I THINK BEEN DONE PATTY WAS ONLY 1.3 TILL AND MARIE EVANS JOLTED ME AND SAID IT WAS 2.2 MILLION. WHAT DO WE DO WITH ALL OF THIS MONEY THAT IS

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INTEREST-BARRING AND THE STOCKS? ARE WE RAISING MORE

TAXES? THANK YOU. >> MICHAEL MCDONALD. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGE THE GENTLEMEN ARE

MAKING FROM OUR COUNTY? >> GOOD MORNING. CHARLIE HUNT FROM MILL CREEK ESTATES. I'M WONDERING IF ANY OF THIS INCOME THAT IS MADE OFF THE INTEREST IS GOING TO HELP PAY FOR THE OVER $6 MILLION LAWSUIT THAT CAME ACROSS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. JUST A QUESTION OF TAXPAYERS' MONEY GOING TO PAY CLAIMS. GIVE ME A HOLLER, IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA NUMBER 2.

SEEING NONE, WE CLOSE THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AND NOW A MOTION OR DISCUSSION? I WILL CLARIFY THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS MADE. THERE WAS THE $2.4 MILLION CHECK THAT DID NOT GET DELIVERED TO OUR OFFICE. THAT MONEY WAS NOT LOST. THE CHECK WAS RECUT AND REDEPOSITED. AND THOSE THAT WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT WERE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. AND THE RECENT FRAUD EVENT FOR THE 1.1, THE INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING. I SHOULD HAVE SOME DEVELOPMENTS, UPDATES FOR YOU ALL SOON. THE INVESTIGATION HAS TAKEN SOME TIME AS IS IT A DELIBERATE PROCESS. WE'LL HAVE THAT AS WELL IN MY REPORT.

>> I I HAVE A QUESTION. >> WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE AND

HOW DO WE PAY THEM? >> RICHARD, DO YOU WANT TO

SPEAK TO THAT DIRECTLY? >> ON THE SURPLUS ASSETS, THE RATE IS ACTUALLY SHOWN ON PAGE . THIS IS 0.07 BASIC POINTS ON THE SURPLUS FUNDS. I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE INVESTMENT REPORTS AS PRESENTED BY THE CLERK OF COURT. AND THAT IS THE PFM

MANAGEMENT LLC. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

[3. Hastings Community Center & Library and New Southwest First Coast Technical College Campus. This agenda item provides updates and requests direction on 1.) the St. Johns County Board of County Commissioners (BCC) new Hastings Community Center & Library (Community Center) project and 2.) the BCC-approved American Rescue Plan Act funding for the St. Johns County School Board (School Board) new Southwest First Coast Technical College (FCTC) campus in Hastings. First; as part of their April 19, 2022 regular meeting, the BCC authorized the County Administrator to enter into a partnership with the School Board to support construction costs associated with the new FCTC campus utilizing American Rescue Plan Act funds in an amount up to $7,665,000. (The American Rescue Plan Rescue Act of 2021 (ARPA) was signed into law by President Biden on March 11 2021). The first motion is for the BCC to consider executing a funding agreement with the School District to comply with the ARPA requirements for the construction of the new FCTC campus. Second; the School Board has requested that the BCC convey the property, known as the old Hastings High School building (and formerly owned by the School Board), to the School Board as allowed by Section 125.38, Florida Statutes. The second motion is for the BCC to consider executing a County Deed conveying the old Hastings High School property to The School Board. Third; as the Public Works Department partnered with the community to achieve an appropriate design for the new Community Center, Library Services and the Grants & Legislative Development secured two grants to assist in the construction of the community center. The County received an announcement, from the Office of Governor Desantis (included in the agenda backup information), that the BCC is the recipient of a $4,000,000 Multipurpose Community Facilities Projects Program Award to be used for the Community Center (the grant contract will be brought to the BCC for execution in a subsequent BCC meeting). In addition, the County has been awarded a State of Florida, Division of Library and Information Services Public Library Construction Grant in the amount of $500,000. The third motion is for the BCC to accept the terms of the Library Construction Grant Agreement and to recognize and appropriate the grant within the Fiscal Year 2024 County Budget. Fourth; on July, 20, 2021, the Board authorized (Res. 2021-298) the submission of a Section 108 Loan Guarantee Application in the amount of $5,075,000 to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) for the construction of a Community Center and Library located in Hastings, FL. St. Johns County has participated in the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Entitlement Program since 2016, and as such receives an annual allocation of funds for projects, which are in conformance with its 2021-2025 Consolidated Plan. The Section 108 Loan Guarantee Program is an important public investment tool that provides communities with federally guaranteed loans sufficient to transform a small portion of their CDBG funds into larger projects. The loan and fees will be paid by current and future CDBG Entitlement funds. The fourth motion is for the BCC to execute a HUD contract and note and recognize and appropriate within the Fiscal Year County Budget. Finally, to ensure continuity of community services during construction of the new Community Center, and in order to facilitate the construction of the FCTC campus, Library Services will serve the community from the Walter E. Harris Community Center. It is estimated that the transition of resources to the Walter E. Harris Community Center will cost $50,000. The fifth motion is for the BCC to approve the transfer of reserves for the transition and set-up of the temporary library branch.]

SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THAT PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU,

GENTLEMEN. >>> MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM

NUMBER THREE. MR. DUNN? >> JESSIE DUNN DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET. I'LL DO MY BEST AS YOUR UNEXCITABLE BUDGET DIRECT TORE PRESENT SOMETHING VERY EXCITING THIS MORNING ASSOCIATED WITH THE HASTINGS COMMUNITY CENTER LIBRARY AND FIRST COAST TECHNICAL COLLEGE CAMPUS. ON FEBRUARY 6TH, JUST THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING, COUNTY STAFF PROVIDED AN INFRASTRUCTURE DELIVERY UPDATE ON A HOST OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IN HASTINGS. I WOULD SAY IT WAS TO THE TUNE OF CLOSE TO $20 MILLION, IF NOT ABOVE THAT. THIS -- HE ELUDED TO THESE TWO PROJECTS. IT SEEM THAT THE STARS ALIGNED THE LAST FOR THIS COMMISSION MEETING. WE HAD FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT AGENDA ITEMS, ALL COMING TOGETHER. AND THE IDEA WAS TO REALLY BRING THEM ALL. SOME WERE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. SOME OF THEM, IF YOU READ THEM BY THEMSELVES, YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE FULL GIFT OF WHAT WAS GOING ON. BUT WE HAD MANY DIFFERENT INITIATIVE THAT'S THE COMMISSION HAASKED THE STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION TO LOOK AT TO ULTIMATELY PURSUE AT THE A LIBRARY AND COMMUNITY CENTER IN HASTINGS AS WELL AS HIS FIST COAST TECHNICAL COLLEGE CAMPUS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT. BUT TODAY, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BULLET ITEMS HERE. WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD TO PLY WITH AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN REQUIREMENTS. THAT IS LEX TAYLOR HAD WORKED ON. THAT WAS

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BEING BROUGHT FORWARD. THAT IS ONE OF THE EMOTIONS. WE HAD THE OLD HASTINGS HIGH SCHOOL BACK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. AND THE MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT WAS BRINGING FORWARD. WE WERE BRINGING FORWARD A LIBRARY CONSTRUCTION GRANT AGREEMENT FOR $500,000 THAT OUR LIKE PRAYER SERVICES TEAM, DEBRA GIBSON WAS DOING. WE HAD A CONTRACT UP TO $5 MILLION, $75,000 TOWARDS A HASTINGS LIBRARY. IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY RECENTLY RECEIVED ACKNOWLEDGEMENT A 4 MILLION-DOLLAR MULTI SERVICES COMMUNITIES FOR AT GRANT DEPARTMENT BROUGHT FORWARD AND WE HAD SOME ITEMS RELATED TO TRANSITIONING THE HASTINGS LIBRARY. BUT THAT IS KIND OF ALL THE PIECES. BY THEMSELVES, THEY DIDN'T PRESENT A STORY. I THINK THE STORY WE WANTED TO BRING FORWARD IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THIS COMMISSION REALLY ALIGNS FOR US TO INVEST OVER 18 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS AND DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS INTO THE HASTINGS COMMUNITY. THE FIRST ITEM -- I'M GOING TO BREAK THESE DOWN INTO TWO ITEMS. ONE IS THE FIRST COAST TECHNICAL COLLEGE AND THE OTHER WILL BE THE LIBRARY ITSELF. AND I'M GOING TO ASK WHEN WE GET TO THE LIBRARY THAT GREG CALDWELL COME UP. I THINK HE'LL BEST PRESENT THE SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT. BUT ON FEBRUARY 8TH, THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING, SCHOOL BOARD STAFF MEMBER, OUTLINED ED WHAT WE CALLED THE HASTINGS HIGH SCHOOL INTO A FIRST COAST TECHNICAL CAMPUS. THAT WILL INCLUDE ADULT EDUCATION PROGRAMS, PRE-K AND CHILDHOOD PROGRAMS, A STUDENT CENTER.

THEY WILL RESTORE THE AUDITORIUM FOR THE MULTI PURPOSE COMMUNITY ROOM. THE BOARD ITEMS TODAY, THERE WERE FIVE MOTIONS TODAY. THE BOARD ITEMS THAT WE'LL SEE IT ONE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD TO ASSURE THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICAN RESCUE ACT REQUIREMENTS OF THOSE DOLLARS AND THE CONVEYANCE OF THE OLD HASTINGS HIGH SCHOOL TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. RIGHT NOW THIS PROJECT IS SAID TO HAVE AMENITIES LIKE CHILDREN AREAS AND TEEN AREAS AND SOME ROOM FOR THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. BUT DUE TO THE ADDITIONAL $4 MILLION DOLLARS ALL PURPOSE, IT NEEDS INTERNET ACCESS, WHICH WE WERE ALREADY PROVIDING AND IT WILL ALSO INCLUDE A GENERATOR. THOSE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE GRANT THAT WE'RE RECEIVING MUCH THE BUILDING ON THE BOTTOM LEFT IS THE DEPICTION FOR THE FINAL DESIGN FOR THE BUILDING.

WE'RE AT 90% TO FINAL DESIGN. IS IT A 10,000 CARE -- SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. IT IS ESTIMATED TO COST $6.8 MILLION. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO ENHANCE THE PARKING IN THE AREA. IT IS ON A TIGHT SPOT. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADD THE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY. THE BUDGET IS $10.8 MILLION BECAUSE OF ALL THE GRANTS THAT MR. DUNNS IS TALKING ABOUT. THE SCHEDULE FOR THIS PROJECT IS BY THE END OF APRIL THAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO ADVERTISE THE BID FOR THE PROJECT WITH STARTING SOMETIME IN JULY, BRINGING THE CONTRACT BACK TO THE BOARD IN A JUNE, JUNE/JULY TIME FRAME. BUT WE'LL HAVE TO TEMPORARILY RELOCATE THE LIBRARY TO THE DAVID E.SHARING CENTER. THE

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TEAM BETWEEN PUBLIC WORKS AND THE LIBRARY FACILITIES MAINTENANCE, IT, A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYBODY WENT DOWN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WE HARRIS CENTER IS SUITABLE FOR THIS TIME FRAME AND HAVE IT DONE BY AUGUST 2025 FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND

THE LIBRARY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. >> I WAS GOING ASK. IS THAT THE DESIGN THAT WAS CHOSEN FOR THE LIBRARY?

>> THIS IS THE FINAL DESIGN FOR THE LIBRARY?

>> CHOSEN BY THE COMMUNITY? >> YES.

>> ONE LAST QUESTION. YOU KNOW WHEN WE ACCEPT THE GRANTS, I JUST CAUGHT THIS, WHEN WE ACCEPT THE GRANTS, I KNOW WE HAD A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 17 WITH THE GRANTS. IF WE ACCEPT THEM, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THE MONEY? I WANT TO BE CAREFUL. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO DO. SO I WAS CURIOUS WHAT THEY ARE OTHER

THAN TELEDOC. >> BUT SOME IS ADDING THE THE GENERATOR, IF THE ELECTRIC GOES OFF BECAUSE OF A STORM, THAT WAS A BIG COMPONENT OF THE GRANT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> AGAIN, A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ASKING THE BOARD TO CONSIDER ON THE BOTTOM HERE IT IS RELATED TO THE HASTINGS COMMUNITY CENTER IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE CONSTRUCTION GRANT, CONSIDERATION OF THE HUD LOAN CONTRACT FOR UP TO $5,075,000. THAT LIEN, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE AND EMPHASIZE ON THE NEXT PAGE ARE PAID BY COMMUNITY BLOCK DEVELOPMENT GRANTS FOR WHAT SANE JOHN'S COUNTY IS A RECIPIENT OF GRANT DOLLARS. THEY ARE NOT BEING PAID BY PROPERTY TAX OR LOCAL FEES. AND THEN MR. CALDWELL REFERENCED A TRANSITION OF LIBRARY SERVICES DURING THE CONSTRUCTION TO THE HARRIS CENTER, SO WE WOULD ASK FOR THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. TO BRING IT ALL TOGETHER, AGAIN, I'VE BEEN KNOW TO FALL INTO THE WEEDS. THAT IS PART OF MY JOB IS. IT IS DEVELOPER IMPACT FEES INTO THE HASTINGS COMMUNITY.

GOING FROM TOP THERE ARE DOWN, WE'RE USING, AGAIN FROM THE COMMISSIONS DIRECTION, $7.7 MILLION OF AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT DOLLARS. IS THIS IS $5.6 MILLION FOR A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT WITH NO LOCAL DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. THE COUNTY HAS JUST RECEIVED WORD IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS THAT WE ARE A RECIPIENT OF A $4 MILLION MULTI PURPOSE GRANT. WE'LL LENGTH WHAT ARE CALLED PUBLIC BUILDING IMPACT FEES. $1,268,750 THAT REPRESENTED A MATCH TO THAT HUD LOAN. GREAT NEWS AND WE'LL ADD IT INTO OUR PROJECT. AND THE LIBRARY CONSTRUCTION AWARD WAS GIVEN TO US FOR $500,000. NOT A LOCAL DOLLAR, NOT A TAXPAYER FUND.

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>> SO IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THEM TO HAVE A SINGLE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. DUNN, LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WE'LL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.

COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES FOR THE RECORD.

>> I'M WILLIE SIMON. THE ONE ADDRESS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS 400 EAST HARRIS STREET. THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. WITH THE HOUSE, WE DO MANY THINGS, COUNSELING, MENTORING IT AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF.

WE'RE EXCITED THAT HASTINGS IS GETTING A LIBRARY AND COMMUNITY CENTER. BUT THE ONE THING IS WHAT HAPPENS TO THE OLD COMMUNITY CENTER. AND THE BIGGEST CONCERN LIKE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE PUT A LOT OF TIME, MONEY AND EFFORT INTO THE HARRIS CENTER. AT ONE POINT, IT WAS A NONPROFIT AGENCY IN THERE. WE GET WIND OF SOMEONE -- THEY WANT TO PUSH US OUT BACK TO THE BACK AND THE COUNTY PUSHES US OUT OF SOME ARE WHERE WE PUT OUR HEARTS AND OUR MONEY. WE DON'T HAVE GRANTS. WE DON'T DO LOANS. WE'RE NOT GOVERNMENT FUNDED.

EVERYTHING IS OUT OF POCKET. SO THAT WILL BE TOUGH FOR US TO GO BACK TO THE BACK ROOM AND START ALL OVER AGAIN. WE JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER WITH THIS LIBRARY SHOULD MOVE TO. I KNOW IS IT COMING TO THE HARRIS CENTER. GIBSON CAME OUT THERE LOOK AT THE FACILITY. SHE LIKED WHAT WE HAVE DONE. BUT, BUT, OF COURSE, IF WE HAVE MONEY AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF, WE CAN DO THE OTHER ROOMS. AND WE'RE FINISHED BUILDING OUR FACILITY.

AND WE HAVE ANOTHER PLACE THAT WE'RE BUILDING. WE HAVE FIVE FACILITIES. AND WE DO EVERYTHING FROM HELL BE THE VETERANS TO CLOTHES, FOOD, MEDICAL COUNSELING AND MENTOR WHATEVER YOU WANT, WE DO. I BROUGHT THIS WITH MY . THE TEMPORARY TEMPORARY ARRANGEMENT IS DEPLORETORY. WE HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF EXPLORATORY. THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS. I APPRECIATE THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO COLLABORATE BRACE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AND IT, WE'RE GOING TO

HAVE MINIMIZE THIS HARDSHIP. >> WE NO IT IS A TEMPORARY ROOF. WE HAVE 7 ROOMS THAT WE OCCUPY AND THEY WANT TO PUT US DOWN TO FOUR ROOMS TWO IN THE BACK AND TWO THE FRONT. THAT MAKES US HARD TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY HOMELESS

SCHOOL. >> WE WOULD LIKE TO FIND AND MAKE AN OFFER THAT WE CAN WORK ON A SOLUTION FOR THE

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ORGANIZATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A SMOOTH TRANSITION. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I DON'T WANT TO SPEND FOR TIME ON THIS COMMENT AND WE BRING BACK AN UPDATE TO THE BOARD.

>> IS THAT AGREEABLE TO YOU? >> YES.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> I THINK TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU'RE INVESTING $18 MILLION IS A LITTLE EXTREME. AT THIS POINT, IT SEEMS LIKE IS IT AN OPEN BID THAT WE HAVE GIVEN THEM THE UNDERLINING TO UNDER. IF YOU CAN BE UNDER $18 MILLION, YOU GOT IT PRETTY MUCH. SO I THINK THIS IS POOR PRESENTATION OF DISCUSSING OUR FUNDS PRIOR TO BIDDING PROCESS BECAUSE IT PRETTY MUCH GIVES THEM A CLEAR GUIDANCE OF WHAT NUMBER WE NEED TO BE AT TO GET THIS APPROVED. THAT IS ABOUT

IT. THANK YOU. >> I'M DAVID WILLIAMS, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE FLAGLER STATE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MR. SIMON IS NOT GOING TO GET THE BUMS RUSH ON THIS DEAL. HE IS TOO IMPORTANT.

>> CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATES. I ALSO I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE BIDDING PROCESS. WILL IT BE POSTED DURING THE BIDDING PROCESS OF AN ITEMIZED LIST TO SEE WHERE ALL THE ALMOSTS WILL BE GOING AND WHO WILL BE GETTING PAID AS FAR AS THE DESIGN? THAT IS USUALLY A PRETTY GOOD COST AMOUNT. THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HELP. AND ALSO, THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I BROUGHT UP ABOUT BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION, IF IT IS COSTING AND ESTIMATED INCREASE OF 575% AND INTERCHANGE ON STATE ROAD 16 AND 2209, WILL THIS HAVE THE SAME INCREASE BECAUSE OF THE INFLATION BECAUSE OF THE STRUCTURE OF THE ECONOMY. I'M WAITING TO SEE IF AN INTERSECTION CAN GO FROM $150,000 ESTIMATE TO OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN THREE YEARS, IF THIS IS GIVEN TWO YEARS, THAT MAY BE -- MAY GO UP A BIG INCREASE? WILL IT KEEP THE NUNS BECAUSE IT WENT TO A COMMUNITY IS IT STRUCTURED FOR RATHER THAN THIS INTERSECTION THAT HAD NO PROBLEM OF GETTING MONEY AND THEY'RE STILL NOT BUILDING IT?

THANK YOU. >> I'M A STATE CERTIFIED GENERAL CONTRACTOR. I WAS IN HASTINGS. WE WERE RESTORING HISTORICAL PROPERTIES. IT IS SAD THAT WE'RE NOT TAKING HASTINGS TO OUR BOOSOM AS HISTORICAL AREA OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE AGRICULTURAL BUILDING THAT IS GOING WAYSIDE. THESE ARE PROPERTIES THAT WE SHOULD BE BUYING ON THE HISTORICAL ASPECT. I'M GLAD TO SEE THE LIBRARY. I JUST HOPE THAT THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT IN HASTINGS ARE NOT STRUGGLE AND GET TAXED OUT. THE COUNTY IS NOT -- AND WE'RE GETTING TAXED. I HOPE THIS COMMISSION LOOKS AT ALL THE HISTORICAL ATTRIBUTES OF HASTINGS AND TAKES THAT TO

HEART. THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. JENNA DENNIS MAIN STREET INC. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EACH AND EVERY COMMISSIONER AND ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE OF THE ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY STAFF AND ADD ADMINISTRATION. WE'RE GRATEFUL

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FOR ALL THAT YOU'RE POURING INTO OUR GROUP AND COMMUNITY.

THE COMMUNITY IS RECOGNIZING AND NOTICING THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. THE FACT THAT ALL THE FUNDS CAME FROM STATE FUNDING AND GRANTS IS TREMENDOUS TNOW. SO CONTINUE TO AT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES ALONG WITH US TO SEE HOW ELSE WE CAN HELP OUR COMMUNITY. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL IN THE COMMUNITY FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT AND POURING INTO US. YOU ARE CHANGING LIVES OUT THERE. THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MISSING IN THEIR LIVES FROM THE COMMUNITY LIBRARY TO THE CENTER. SO THANK YOU.

>>> JESSIE FOX. I USED TO WORK FOR HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES THREE YEARS AGO AS A CASE MANAGER. SO I SPLIT TIME HERE AND HASTINGS AND I GOT TO WORK WITH THOSE THAT ARE UNDER THE POVERTY LINE, UNDERSERVED, UNDERPRIVILEGED. IT WARMS MY HEART THIS IS GOING TO COME TO FRUITION. I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS KEEP PUSHING FOR THIS, THE PEOPLE OUT IN HASTINGS, THEY ARE UNDER THE POVERTY LINE AND THEY NEED OUR HELP AND THEY NEED THIS. I HINK THIS WILL BE A BIG HELP FOR THEM AND I HOPE YOU PUSH IT THROUGH TO THE FINISH LINE BECAUSE I KNOW THE PEOPLE WILL BE SUPER APPRECIATIVE OF IT. AND THANK

YOU, GUYS. >> QUESTION. IT IS NOT OUR LOCAL MONEY. BUT ISN'T IT TAX DOLLARS FROM SOMEPLACE? THIS FRONT MONEY AND EVERYTHING IS COMING IN HERE? SOMETIMES WHEN YOU SAY IT IS NOT LOCAL MONEY, WE'RE STILL THE TAXPAYERS THAT THIS MONEY IS COMING THROUGH US SOMEWHERE? THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST GIVING OUT, I THINK. THE QUESTION I HAVE, I APPRECIATE MR. SIMON. I DON'T EVEN KNOW MR. SIMON. BUT I'M GLAD MR. SIMON IS HERE. AVERAGE THAT YOU, MR. SIMON. NOW, THEN, I THINK WE NEED TO BE CLEAR, VERY CLEAR TO WHAT MR. SIMON IS ASKING FOR. I'M GLAD YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO GET TO THE SIDE AND TALK ABOUT IT. I THINK YOU SHOULD VOTE FIVE VOTES TO GIVE WHEREVER, TO GIVE MR. SIMON WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR. I GATHERED FROM HIS CONVERSATION THAT IT IS 7 ROOMS. NOW, WHEREVER THOSE 7 ROOMS ARE GOING TO BE, CAN YOU ALL DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATOR TO MAKE SURE THAT HE HAS HIS 7 ROOMS? THAT IS ALL HE'S ASKING FOR. HE DIDN'T WANT BACK IN THE CORNER. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT VOTE TODAY, TO GIVE MR. SIMON AND THE PEOPLE LIVING IN HASTINGS WHAT THEY REALLY NEED, 7 ROOMS. NOT JUST MEET ON THE SIDE, BUT 7 ROOMS. 7 ROOMS. CAN ANYONE UP THERE MAKE A MOTION ABOUT THAT? MAYBE MR. LUTZ CAN TELL US IF IT IS LEGAL TO DO THAT? I'M GLAD THEY'RE OVER THERE LISTENING. THANK MR. SIMON AGAIN. WE CANNOT CLAP FOR MR. SIMON. BECAUSE IS NOT ALLOWED. BUT OUR THOUGHTS ARE WITH YOU, MR. SIMON FOR THE 7 ROOMS. I'M MAKING IT AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT WE VOTE ON THOSE 7 ROOMS TODAY. SO WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR SIDE MEETING WITH THE ADMINISTRATOR AND WHOEVER, THAT WILL BE A DONE DEAL. YOU CAN STILL TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS THAT YOU NEED. THANK YOU, MR. SIMON.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

3? >> SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE

THE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> I SEE WE HAVE A QUESTION

FROM COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> I WAS WONDERING THROUGH THE CHAIR, JOY, IF, WEEDS AND SEEDS HAVE THE BIG TRAILERS, THEY HAVE TWO NEXT TO EACH OTHER AT THAT PARK. IS IT BUTLER PARK? I'M NOT SURE WHICH PARK. THE CORNER OF HOLMES. CAN THEY DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR HIM, HIS OWN PLACE, FOR MR. SIMON IN

JUST QUESTIONING. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER

JOSEPH. >> I THINK WE JUST CAME BACK FROM THE SIDEBAR CONVERSATION WITH MR. SIMON. WE'LL TAKE THAT AS PART OF THE CONSIDERATION AS OPTIONS THAT

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WE'LL EXPLORE. >> OKAY. I GUESS THEY'RE BACK TO THE BOARD. AND I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. ARE THERE ANY

OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. DUNN? >> ABSOLUTELY. IF I CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE CONTEXT RELATED TO THE TOWN OF HASTINGS OR WHAT WAS FORMALLY THE TOWN OF HASTINGS. A COUPLE YEARS BACK, MAYBE 7 YEARS NOW, THE COMMUNITY OF HASTINGS VOTED IN A NOVEMBER VOTING TO DISSOLV THE TOWN OF HASTINGS AT WHICH TIME, THISRD POOH OF COUNTY COMMUNICATIONERS TOOK ON THE BOARD OF HASTINGS AND REDUCED IT DOWN TO ZERO. AS WELL, WE ACQUIRED UTILITY AREA AND INVESTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEIL WAS RECENTLY PRESENTED AND LOWERED THEIR WATER RATES AS WELL. SO SOME CONTEXT AS TO THE TAXATION IN THAT AREA KNOWN FORMALLY AS THE TOWN OF HASTINGS.

>> WITH THAT, THERE ARE FIVE MOTIONS, YES.

>> I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START. MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 202 24/7 5 AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE A FUNDING ASSISTANCE AGREEMENT WE ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL BOARDP MILLION $716,000.804 FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE FUN REFER KNEW BUDGET.

>> SECOND. >> NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

POLICE VOTE. IT PASSES 5-0. >>> MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 202 24/7 6 AUTHORIZING THE BOARD TO EXECUTE THE DEED THE OVER THE HASTINGS PROPERTY TO THE SCHOOL BOARD OF ST.

JOHN'S SCHOOL. SECOND. >> VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0.

>>> MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2024-77.

>> ACCEPTING THE TERMS AND CONSTRUCTION AND LIBRARY BETWEEN ST. JOHNS FLORIDA AND THE DEPARTMENT OF FLORIDA DIVISION OF STATE AND INFORMATION SERVICES RECORD INNING THE COUNTY ADMINISTER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT AND RECOGNIZING AND APPROPRIATING THE GRANT WITHIN THE ST.

JOHN'S FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET.

>> SECOND. >> VOTE.

>> THAT PASSES 5-0 AS WELL. >> TWO MORE MOTIONS.

>> MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2024-78.

>> AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING THE HUD CONTRACT FOR LOAN GUARANTEE AND NOTE FOR THE PRINCIPLE NOTE NOT TO EXCEED 8 MILLION AND $75,000 TO THE LIBRARY PROJECT AND THE DEBT PRESERVE FOR THE SAINT JOHN'S FISCAL YEAR 2024.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE VOTE.

>> THAT PASSES 5-0. >> MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TRANSFER OF GENERAL FUND RESERVES IN THE AMOUNT OF UP TO $50,000 FOR THE TRANSITION AND SETUP OF A TEMPORARY LIBRARY

BRANCH IN HASTINGS. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND SECOND. >> CAN I TALK ABOUT IT?

>> YES. >> IN THAT MOTION, CAN WE ADD EXTRA MONEY IN THERE FOR MR. SIMMONS FOR A TRAILER OR SOME KIND. THAT IS THE TEMPORARY LIBRARY.

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, I CAN COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION OTHER THAN TO ADD TO THE MOTION. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD COST. THAT WILL BE OPEN ENDED. NUMBER ONE. AND NUMBER TWO, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THE DETAILS THAT OUR STAFF DOES. AND COMMISSIONER ARNOLD HAS BEEN THERE A LOT. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MAYBE WE GET CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP MR. SIMON AND WE GIVE DIRECTION TO THE STAFF TO COME BACK WITH US TO SOLID OPTIONS THAT WE CAN VOTE ON.

>> IF WE HAVE CONSENSUS, THAT WILL BE GREAT.

>> I THINK WE HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE IN YOUR STAFF TO MAKE IT RIGHT FOR MR. SIMON. MOTION TO SECOND, PLEASE VOTE?

>> THAT PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU TO ALL INVOLVED IN THIS. THIS IS A HUGE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AND HUGE WIN FOR THE TOWN OF

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HASTINGS. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY STAFF.

>> WE WANT TO CLOSE THE LOOP THERE WITH THE CONSENSUS.

>> DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD?

>> YES. >> YOU HAVE ENOUGH DIRECTION

FROM US? >> WE'LL PROVIDE UPDATE AND SEEK FURTHER DIRECTION, IF NEEDED.

>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> I WANT TO MAKE A BRIEF REMARK, IF I MAY. IF YOU GO BACK 7 YEARS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT HAVING SERVED ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME, THE WHOLE SITUATION IN HASTINGS, THEY WERE IN DIRE STRAITS. BUT WHAT JESSIE ALLUDED TO EARLIER, NOT ONLY WERE THE RESIDENTS OF HASTINGS WHICH WAS AN INCORPORATED CITY, AND COUNTY AND CITY TAXES AND THE PROPERTY VALUES WERE SO LOW. THE ASSESSED EVALUATES WERE LOW TO OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY. THEY WERE PAYING THE HIGHEST MILLAGE RATE IN THE COUNTY WITH ALL THE -- AREAS. DIFFERENT AREAS. AND THEY HAD EXTREME PROBLEMS WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE WATER AND WASTE WATER SYSTEM WAS HARDLY FUNCTIONING. THE DRAINAGE WAS A HUGE ISSUE. IT WAS A SERIOUS SITUATION. AND WHEN THE CITIZENS VOTED TO BASICALLY DISSOLVE THE INCORPORATED MUNICIPAL OF HASTINGS, THE STAFF STEPPED IN AND WENT IN AND DID ANALYSIS. NEIL WENT IN AND LED THAT CHARGE AND WHAT WAS NEEDED. WE SPENT MILLIONS OF THERE ARE.

NUMBER TWO, THE COMMISSION STEPPED UP. BUT I THINK THAT OUR CHAIR DESERVES SPECIAL RECOGNITION TODAY BECAUSE SHE HAS INVESTED HER TALENT, HER TIME AND HER ENERGY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MOVE AHEAD IMPROVING THE LIVES OF EVERYONE IN THE HASTINGS AREA AND ALSO A SHOUTOUT TO JENNA DAVIS, IF SHE'S STILL HERE. THERE SHE IS. WHAT HE'S DOING WITH MAIN STREET AND THE BOARD OF MAIN STREET. THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE.

HAVING WITNESSED THIS WEAKLY TRANSITION AND SEE WHERE IT IS TODAY, IT REALLY IS REMARKABLE? I COULD NOT SIT HERE AND NOT SAY SOMETHING, HAVING SERVED WHEN WE WERE REALLY IN DIRE

[12. Interim County Attorney Discussion. At the February 6, 2024, BCC meeting, the Board of County Commissioners and the County Attorney agreed to separate effective February 9, 2024. The Deputy County Attorney is allowed to perform the duties of the County Attorney for no more than fourteen days without approval by the Board of County Commissioners per Ordinance 2003-64 Section 3. Additionally, the Board subsequently approved a motion authorizing the Chair and the County Administrator to enter into contract negotiations with Rich Komando of Bradley, Garrison & Komando, to serve as the Interim County Attorney. A draft contract will be presented for the Board's review and consideration.]

STRAITS INTO WHAT TO DO. IT COULD NOT HAVE WORKED OUT BETTER. AND A LOT OF THAT CREDIT GOES TO YOU CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> AND THAT TAKES US TO ITEM 3A.

>> PER THE BOARD'S DIRECTION FROM THE FEBRUARY 6TH MEETING, THE CHAIRMAN WOMAN AND MYSELF TO NEGOTIATE AN INTERIM COUNTY ATTORNEY AGREEMENT WITH MR. COMMANDO WHO IS HERE TODAY. AND WE DID VET WITH OUR LABOR ATTORNEY. THERE WAS A FEW REVISIONS THAT WERE SUGGESTED. IT WAS INCORPORATED IN THE AGREEMENT. SO THERE WERE A FEW ITERATIONS OF THE AMENDMENT.

THERE A FOLDER THAT YOU HAVE THE LATEST VERSION OF THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU. >> MR. COMMANDO, WOULD YOU LIKE

TO SAY ANYTHING? >> I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DECISION ABOUT THE CONFLICT WITH OUR OFFICE. WE DID A CONFLICT CHECK TO ASSURE THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNTY THAT OUR OFFICE DOES NOT HAVE ANY BUSINESS THAT WOULD PRESENT A CONFLICT SITUATION. ANYTIME THERE IS, WE'LL ADDRESS THOSE AS WE GO FORWARD. I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE ANY, BUT TO REASSURE THE COMMISSION.

>> OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? >> PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WE'LL HEAR A PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 3A.

>> PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR

THE RECORD. >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

AND MARIE EVAN, 1356 ROBERTS ROAD. WHERE IS THE CONTRACT? IS THERE A REASON THAT THE PUBLIC IS NOT GETTING A REASON TO SEE THE CONTRACT. I WILL MAKES A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST TO SEE THE CONTRACT AT SOME POINT. I'M NOT SURE WHY IT IS NOT IN OUR MATERIALS. WHERE IS THE INTERVIEW? WHERE IS A RESUME FOR US TO LOOK AT? NOTHING THE PUBLIC WE ARE GIVEN TELLS US ANYTHING ABOUT MR. COMMANDO AND HOW MUCH THE CONTRACT IS GOING

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TO COST US. I DID MY OWN RESEARCH THAT I'M HAPPY TO SHARE BECAUSE IT DRAWS PARALLELS TO SOME ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE AT PLAY RIGHT HERE. CAN I USE OVERHEAD? FIRST THING I WANT TO POINT TO IS THE HEADLINE, BAD ADVICE FROM CITY ATTORNEY GENERAL STIRS CONTRACT INVOLVING ATLANTIC BEACH MAYOR.

AT LANDTY BUYER LAND MAYOR THAT SHE COULD DO YOU AND ADVISE REQUIRE BOARD. THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS THAT THE CITY MANAGER BASED ON THE CITY ATTORNEY'S ADVICE. THE COMMISSION WAS TOLD THAT A TIE WAS BROKEN BY THE MAYOR. THAT TURNED OUT TO BE INCORRECT. THE MEETING RESULTED IN A FURTHER MEETING AND IT RESULTED IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S RESIGNATION. TWO COMMISSIONERS SUGGESTED BACK ROOM POLITICS AT PLAY. ACCORDING TO RECEIVES, HE SAT DOWN WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY RICH COMMANDO ON JANUARY 6TH.

BUT HE WOULD NOT SAY WHAT TOPICS THEY DISCUSSIONS. SOUND ÚFAMILIAR. IT DOESN'T SAY IF QUILT QUIT OR RESINATED. IT SOUND FAMILIAR. THEY SOUGHT OUT MR. COMMANDO JUST AS RECEIVES SAW THE OUT MR. JOHNSON INSTEAD OF OPENING IT AND BRINGING IN RESUMES. YOU MAY BE WITHIN YOUR RIGHTS LEGALLY, BUT YOU WILL NOT GAIN THE TRUST OF THIS BOARD IF THAT THE WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GOVERN THAT SEAT. YOU'RE NOT EARNING THE PUBLIC TRUST BY GOING ABOUT THINGS THIS WAY. THIS ATTORNEY COMES ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF COMMISSIONER A LEAMO, SOMETHING FEELS TO ME, I KNOW THIS GUY, OR I HAVE THIS FRIEND, IT GIVES THE APPEARANCE OF THE GOOD OLE BOY'S CLUB. THE DECISION IS BEING MADE LACKS TRANSPARENCY. IS THERE NOT ONE ATTORNEY IN

OUR COUNTY? >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU YOU. >> MICHAEL MCDONALD. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO THE REST OF THE THE PUBLIC THAT IS GENTLEMAN IS REPRESENTING THREE COUNTIES AT THIS POINT. IF HE IS APPROVED. I FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN MANAGE AWARENESS OF THREE COUNTIES INCENTIVES -- PROBABLY THE WRONG WORD. I FIND IT HARD TO YOU CAN MANAGE THREE COUNTY LEGAL OPERATIONS IN THAT CAPACITY WITHOUT SEEKING ADVICE OR HELP FROM OTHER LAWYERS IN YOUR ESTABLISHMENT, WHICH SEEMS NOT APPROPRIATE. I THINK WHAT SHE SAID WAS ALL RELATIVE. THIS SEEMS LIKE AN APPOINTMENT POSITION THAT IS INTENDED TO SERVE THE AGENDA FOR THIS COMMISSION COMMISSIONER. WE NEED SOMEONE DIFFERENT THAT UNTHAT IS ACCOUNT TO ROY LAME MOWO AND THE REST OF THESE GUYS.

>> CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATE. I FIND IT AMAZING THAT YOU BRING THE FINANCIAL ADVISORS UP HERE TO GO THROUGH THEIR POWER POINTS AND INVESTMENTS AND INTEREST AND ALL THE MONEY THE COUNTY MAKING OFF OF IT. BUT THE GENTLEMAN PROPOSING FOR THE PUBLIC LIBRARY AND HASTINGS AND THE MONEY FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF GRANTS FROM STATE COMING DOWN. THAT IS GREAT. NOW SOMEBODY JUST SHOWS UP FOR UNTIER INTERIM COUNTY ATTORNEY. NO PROBLEM. I KNOW THE GOOD OLE BUDDIES. I'LL ADMIT IT. I GREW UP IN JAKE DOBB UP IN JACKSONVILLE. THAT HAPPENS. BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICANS. IT STILL HAPPENS.

IT IS APPARENT THAT IT DOES. WHEN YOU WANT TO SIT AND BRING

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OUT OVERNIGHT JUST OFF THE CUFF TYPE OF APPOINTMENT FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS GOING TO REPRESENT THE COUNTY, OKAY, FOR THE LEGAL ACTIONS OF IT, AND THEN GIVE HIM A CALL, SAY, HEY, THAT'S FINE. YOU WANT IN. WE GOT YOU. THIS IS VERY UNAPPROPRIATE HOW THIS COUNTY IS GOING. WITH THE TRIFECTA OF THE DEVELOPERS AND THE BOARD OF COMMISSION AND THE SCHOOL BOARD. NOBODY GETS ALONG. SOME SOMEBODY MAKES A OFF THE CUFF COMMENT OF BRINGING THIS INDIVIDUAL IN AND THEN THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE TO DO IS VOTE FOR IT WITHOUT ANY AGENDA SHOWING HOW MUCH HE'LL BE GET PAID HOW MUCH THE COUNTY WILL PAY OUT TO HIM, OKAY, THAT IS FINE. BUT I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE IS IT JUST ME TO SEE THIS COUNTY FINANCIAL ADVISORS HERE SHOWING US HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'RE MAKING HERE YOU GO.

WE'RE GOING TO BRING IN THIS PERSON OVERNIGHT JUST TO BE THE COUNTY'S DECISION MAKER. YES, IT IS. OKAY. BY ALL MEANS. IF YOU WERE ON THIS SIDE OF THE PODIUM, IT WOULD SEEM FEASIBLE OF WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING AND WITHIN THAT QUICK OF A TIME, IT

HAPPENS. THANK YOU. >> HEATHER LOLLY DAVIDSON. I'M SO SICK OF DEEP STAKE AT THE GRASSROOTS LEVEL. THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WERE APPOINTED, THESE ARE TOO IMPORTANT OF POSITIONS TO TOOK IT AWAY FROM THE RIGHTS OF US VOTING FOR THESE PEOPLE. AND NOW WE GET APPOINTEES. MORE APPOINTEES. PATTY WAS AN APPOINTEE. HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO ENGLAND AND EVERY TIME THEY'RE TELLING A JOKE, IT IS WHEN PATTY WALKS IN THE DOOR? ANYWAY, I HAD TO GIVE THAT LITTLE HUMOR BECAUSE WE'RE ALL LAUGHING AT THIS GOING. THIS IS NOT REAL. THIS IS ALMOST LIKE WATCHING THE TOWERS OF 9/11 FALL. WHERE IS BRUCE WILLIS? NOW, YOU GUYS WE GOT CAREER YOU'RE . WHY DO ALL THE ROADS LEAD TO THE HUDSON DRIVEWAY? IT IS NOT A DEMOCRAT. IT IS NOT A REPUBLICAN THING. WE'RE HAVING OUR KIDS JUST GETTING LET OUT INTO SHOPPING CENTERS NORTH OF TOWN. THAT IS SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT? GOOD GOD, YOU GUYS. WE ARE LOSING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. I'VE LIVED HER 45 YEARS. I WAS AN ACTIVE BUILDER. WE BUILT WITH THE ENVIRONMENT IN MIND. I THOUGHT WE HAD A BALANCE. WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR BALANCE? ARE IS NO BALANCE. THE DEVELOPERS HAVE THE THUMB ON THE SCALE. AND THIS IS PART OF IT. YOU, MY DEAR. I'M SORRY.

WE CANNOT DO THIS. WHY CAN'T WE HAVE BALANCE? I'M ASKING. WHY CAN'T WE HAVE BALANCE. WHY ARE THE DEVELOPERS EXEMPT FROM OUR LAND PRESERVATION WHERE WE AS CITIZENS, IF WE DECIDE 16 ACRES, BIT THE TIME WEAVE DONE OUR WETLAND DELINEATIONS, WE MAY HAVE 12. BUT THE LOCALS, WE LIKE OUR TREES. WHAT HAPPENED TO PUTTING TREES IN PARKING LOTS? YOU KNOW. YOU RUBBER STAMP EVERY DEVELOPMENT. 121? 121 VOTES. SICK I SICKENING.

>> MAKE THAT CLOCK GO. ZOOM IN, PLEASE, IF YOU CAN. THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH. I KNOW HOW TO USE THREE MINUTES. THIS WAS ALREADY BROUGHT UP WITH THE OTHER SPEAKER.

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>> CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> BJ LADY OF ST. AUGUSTINE. I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE THIS TO THE CLERK. I ONLY HAD 20 CENTS AT THE LIBRARY. I'M SURE HE HAVE SEEN IT BEFORE, MR. COMMANDO. QUESTION, WHY WAS THIS ITEM MOVED UP FROM NOVEMBER 12? I KNOW WE HAVE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. YOU NEVER ANSWERED MY QUESTION. I KEEP ASKING. 152. I BETTER HURRY UP. NUMBER 2. THE DRAFT CONTRACT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROVIDED WITH THIS ITEM FOR TRANSPARENCY TO TAXPAYERS. WHO EVER WHOEVER COUNTY ATTORNEY IS GOING TO BE.

MR. COMMANDO WAS CHOSEN BY ONE PERSON WITHOUT THE CONSIDERATION OF ANY OTHER LAWYERS. NOBODY ELSE, JUST A FRIEND DECIDED WHO IS GOING TO BE OUR NEXT INTERIM COUNTY ATTORNEY, EVEN THOUGH WE COULD HAVE MAYBE WORKED OUT SOMETHING WITH THE WITHINS THAT WE HAVE HERE. BAD ADVICE FROM CITY ATTORNEY STIRS CONVERSE INVOLVING ATLANTIC BEACH MAYOR.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THE COMMISSIONER THAT MADE THE RECOMMENDATION DID NOT BRING THAT FACT OUT WHEN YOU ALL WERE TOLD ABOUT THIS LAWYER. I'M SURE HE'LL HAVE AN ANSWER.

LAWYERS HAVE AN ANSWER. BUT I'M SO GLAD THAT THE INFORMATION IS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO REALIZE WHAT IS GOING ON AND WAKE UP BECAUSE WE GOT TO MAKE A VOTE COMING UP SOON. AND WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE THINGS ARE NOT LOOKING RIGHT UP HERE. I'M VERY SORRY THAT I DID NOT SAY MY NAME FIRST, EVEN THOUGH NO ONE IS GOING TO ANSWER MY QUESTION. I GUESS MR. COMMANDO, I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE'S LIVING NOW. I GUESS HE'S GOT TO GO HOME. I WAS LATE.

MASTER'S DRIVE, YOU CANNOT GET DOWN TO U.S. 1. BUT I DIGRESS.

5, 4, 3. THANK YOU. >> CHUCK 1748 NORTH -- THIS INTERIM SPOT. WHY ARE WE GOING OUTSIDE THE INTERIM SPOT? WE HAVE TWO CAPABLE. WHY ARE WE GOING OUTSIDE? WHY DO WE NOT SAVE THE COUNTY A FEW DOLLARS AND STAY WITHIN? THEY'VE BEEN FILLING THE POSITION RIGHT NOW. HAVE ONE OF THEM FILL IN IN THE INTERIM TILL WE HIRE SOMEONE OUTSIDE.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON 3A. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 3A.

>> MISS ANDREWS, SINCE THIS ITEM WAS A RED FOLDER. WOULD YOU MIND POSTING THE CONTRACT TO THE OVERHEAD FOR THE PUBLIC

SO SEE? >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT OF FIVE PAGES. I CAN PLACE EACH PAGE ON THE OVERHEAD FOR A MINUTE OR TWO TILL YOU TELL ME THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. AND I'LL FLIP TO THE NEXT PAGE.

>> OKAY. JUST TO MAKE SURE THIS IS ALL AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC

AS WELL. >> WHILE I'M DOING THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A AMENDMENT ON THE TIMING OF THIS PROCESS.

MR. DAVID -- GAVE US TWO DAY'S NOTICE AND THE BOARD PROVIDED DIRECTION TO SECURE A INTERIM COUNTY ATTORNEY WITH NO DISRUPTION OF THE COUNTY OPERATION. WE HAD TWO WEEKS TO REALLY GO BACK AND FORTH AND VET MR. COMMANDO'S BACKGROUND AND FINALIZE THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT. SO THIS CONTRACT WILL BE AVAILABLE ONLINE. WE FINALIZED THAT YESTERDAY ON

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PRESIDENTS DAY. I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THIS ON HERE SO THE PUBLIC

CAN SEE IT TODAY. >> TO BE CLEAR, THIS WILL ALL BE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE. OKAY.

>> IT THERE IS ANY OUTSIDE LITIGATION AND NEEDED TO BE HELD BY OUR FIRM, I'M SURE THAT WILL BE A DIFFERENT CHARGE.

>> AND NO -- I DON'T KNOW YOU VERY WELL. I HEARD SOME GOOD THINGS ABOUT YOU AND I JUST WAS ENTERTAINED BY WHAT I JUST HEARD. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE A NEW ADMINISTRATOR. OUR FIRE CHIEF WAS FIRED. THE DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY, I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS FIRED OR LET GO. CHRISTINE RIGHT THERE, JOY CAME UP FROM TAKE MAKE IT SEEMLESS. AND THEY CAME UP FROM WHERE SHE WAS WORKING IN THE COUNTY. I THINK IT WILL BE GREAT AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A FEMALE DEPUTY ATTORNEY, WHICH I DON'T THINK HAS EVER HAPPENED IN THIS COUNTY. AND IT WOULD BE SEEMLESS FOR HER TO MOVE UP AND BOARD CERTIFIED. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'VE TO GO OUTSIDE $15,000 A MONTH AND WHAT NOT. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.

AND I'M SORRY SORRY. I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU. BUT I KNOW I WILL HAVE TO WORK WITH YOU.

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>> I'VE KNOWN MR. COMMANDO FOR MANY YEARS, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST SAID IT BEST AT THE LAST MEETING, AS YOU ATTEND THE STATEWIDE MEETINGS, THE ASSOCIATION COUNTIES AND OTHER MEETINGS, RICHARD, YOUR NAME COMES UP ALL THE TIME AS ONE OF THE BEST ATTORNEYS IN THE STATE. SO YOU'VE DONE THIS BEFORE. I DO THINK HAVING AN OUTSIDE PERSON TO IN THE INTERIM POSITION, YOU MENTIONED THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ON A PERMANENT BASIS BUT AN INTERIM BASIS AND I THINK YOU'D BE A GREAT FIT. I DON'T DOUBT THAT YOU'LL COME IN HERE AND CALL BALANCES AND STRIKES GIVE US WHAT THE LAW SAYS. I'M GOING TO OFFER HIM, UNLESS THERE ARE

ANY OTHER COMMENTS. >> THE INFORMATION THAT ASK TO NOT CONSIDER MR. COMMANDO IS A NEWS ARTICLE FROM NINE YEARS AGO. AND IS THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE UPSET WITH US. THEY BRING UP AND ARTICLE FROM NINE YEARS AGO. WHEN YOU HAVE A CAREER LIKE MR. COMMANDOS AND HE'S IN MEETINGS EVERY SINGLE WHEATS WITH WEEK AND ONE -- SHE'S NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE HE WAS OUTSIDE BUT WOULD NOT VOTE FOR ADMINISTRATOR BECAUSE THEY WERE INSIDE. IF THEY WERE FROM INSIDE THE BUILDING WE CANNOT TRUST HIM. SO NOW WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY FROM THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, WE CANNOT TRUST HIM. WE'RE HOPPING FROM ONE FOOT TO THE NEXT, NONE OF THEM ARE CONSISTENT. MR. COMMANDO'S TRACK RECORD SPEAKS FOR HIMSELF. AND I'M GOING TO VOTE YES ON HIRING MR. COMMANDO.

>> MR. WHITEHURST? >> NOTHING.

>> I WOULD OFFER A MOTION TO APPOINTED RICH COMMANDO AS INTERIM POINT COUNTY APPROVING THE TERMS AND AGREEMENTS FOR THE LEGAL SERVICES AND THE CHAIRMAN AND DID DESIGNEE?

>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND THE SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. >> THAT PASSES 4-1.

>> THANK YOU, MR. COMMANDER. >> LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH

[4. County-wide Vulnerability Assessment Presentation of Findings. The Florida Department of Environmental Protection, through the Resilient Florida Grant Program, offers funding to assist Florida communities to understand and address their risk associated with tidal, future high tide, storm and rainfall-induced flooding and sea level rise. St. Johns County was awarded a grant in the amount of $500,000 through the Resilient Florida Grant Program to fund the development of a Countywide Vulnerability Assessment (VA) and preliminary Adaptation Plan. Completion of a vulnerability assessment, in accordance with the criteria set forth in FS. 380.093, allows the County and its municipalities to apply for implementation projects for vulnerable critical assets through the Resilient Florida Program with a cost-share of 50%. Staff will present to the Board of County Commissioners 1) the vulnerability assessment process overview 2) the findings of the sensitivity analysis and the draft focus areas 3) and the initial ranking of assets based on vulnerability + adaptive capacity. ]

YOU. I ALSO NEED TO MAKE A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT BEFORE WE MOVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4. IF YOU COULD SILENCE THEIR CELL PHONES. WE HAD ABOUT 12 INTERRUPTIONS THUS FAR IN THIS MEETING. ON TO AGENDA NUMB NUMBER 4.

>> GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A PROJECT UPDATE FOR OUR JOHN EVENTUAL ARE EVENTUAL ARE ONGOING ASSESSMENT FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE FLOODING THROUGH THE FLORIDA RESILIENT PROGRAM. WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THAT PROGRAM, THE STATE ALSO STIPULATED THAT THE COMMUNITIES NEED TO HAVE COMPLETED A EVENTUAL ARE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT. AND THE STATE ALSO ROLLED OUT NO MATCH FUNDING FOR THAT. AND 500,000 OF WHICH, THE COUNTY WAS ABLE TO SECURE FOR THIS PARTICULAR STUDY. IN ANTICIPATION OF THE 2024 DEADLINE AND AUTHORIZED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. ST. JOHN'S COUNTY BEGAN THE PROCESS OF COMPLETING THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT. WITH ME TODAY ARE OUR CONSULTANT FROM JONES EDMONDS, JARED AND MARK TO COVER THE BACKGROUND OF THE RESILIENT FLORIDA PROGRAM.

AND GO OVER THE OVERALL PROCESS OF THIS EXERCISE, THE EVENTUAL ARE EXERCISE, EVENTUAL ARE EXERCISE, EXERCISE, WITH THAT, I WILL GO AHEAD AND TURN OVER TO THEM.

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>> SO I'LL WALK US QUICKLY THROUGH THE AGENDA AND THE PROJECT GOALS. THERE IS SOME TALK OF THE FOCUS AREAS IN THE NEXT STEPS. SO LESLIE HIT ON MOST OF THIS. WE NEED TO SATISFY THE RESILIENT FLORIDA PROGRAM GUIDELINES. PRIMARY GOAL OF THIS IS TO IDENTIFY CRITICAL COMMUNITY VALUE ARE VULNERABLE WITH THE FLOODING. A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE PROGRAM.

THE SENATE BILL 1954 IN 2021 ESTABLISHED THE RESILIENT FLORIDA GRANT PROGRAM AND IT DIRECTED DEP TO CREATE THE ASSESSMENT AND STATEWIDE FLOODING AND SEE THE RESILIENCY PLANS. SO AS PART OF THAT AND AGAIN IT WAS HIT ON BEFORE, THE 100% PLANNING GRANTS. THERE IS THE IMPLEMENTATION GRANTS THAT ARE A CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS FOR WHICH THE COUNTY HAS SEEN A COUPLE AFTERWARDS ON. AND IT WAS 400 MILLION IN 2021 AND THERE IS $275 MILLION IN THE LAST GRANT CYCLE FOR THAT.

AGAIN, THE COUNTY IS RECEIVED $750,000 IN THE PLANNING GRANT AND $900,000 IN THE CONSTRUCTION IMPLEMENTATION GRANTS. SO WE GO THROUGH THE EXERCISE SO MAP THE FLOODING AND THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE VULNERABLE TO FLOODING AND IDENTIFY FOCUS AREAS FOR ADAPTATION PLANS AND PRELIMINARY ADAPTATION PLANS AND STRATEGIES AND ULTIMATELY A REPORT THAT GOES TO THE STATE. A LONG LIST OF CRITICAL COMMUNITY ASSETS. I WILL NOT GO THROUGH READ WHAT THEY ARE.

THEY ARE DEFINED BY THE STATE WASTE WATER AND HOSPITALS AND OTHER ASSETS THAT ARE CRITICA FOR US. WE WENT THROUGH THE EXERCISE. AND THERE ARE 22,000 ASSETS THAT MEET THE DP CRITERIA THAT WE MAPPED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. AND WE SHARED THAT DATA AND COLLABORATED WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE. THIS IS THE BULK THAT WE DO. A LOT OF MODELING EXERCISING HERE TO MODEL AND MAP WHAT THE DIFFERENT FLOOD SCENARIOS ARE. THERE ARE 20 REQUIRED BY THE STATE. WE HAVE TAKEN THAT AND WE LOOKED AT THE SOME OF THE LET EXTREME FLOODING SCENARIOS. THE UPPER RIGHT, THE TOP ONE IS YOUR TITLE FLOODING. AND LOOKING AT THOSE SCENARIOS, BOTH NOW AND INTO THE FUTURE FOR THE SEA LEVEL RISE PROJECTIONS AND THE NEXT ONE IS THE RAINFALL INDUCED FLOODING. YOU'RE USED TO THE 100 YEAR EVENT. WE'RE SEEING MORE INTENSE RAINFALL EVENTS. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE RAINFALL EVENTS NOW AND OFF TO THE FUTURE WITH THE SEA RISE LEVEL SCENARIOS. AND THE NEXT ONE IS COMBINED WITH THE STORM SURGE FLOODING. WE HAVE MAPPING AND WE OVERLAY THAT INFORMATION WITH THE ASSETS, SO THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.

THIS TABLE. I DON'T EXPECT TO YOU READ IT. BUT IT IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE GOT THROUGH ASSET PRIORITIZATION. THERE ARE A LOT OF CRITICAL ASSETS THAT ARE PRONE TO FLOODING. AND WE NEED TO LOOK WHAT IS VULNERABLE THAT IS MOST CRITICAL TO THE COMMUNITY SO WE CAN COME UP WITH ADAPTATION PROJECTS. IT DEVELOPS THE FREQUENCY OF FLOODING AND THE SENSITIVITY OF THE ASSETS AND IMPACT THE COMMUNITY AND THE REGIONAL SIGNIFICANCES ET CETERA, ET CETERA. AND WE LOOK AT THE ASSET CATEGORIES. AND YOU SEE ROADS AND LIFT STATIONS AND OTHER ASSETS LIKE THAT WE PRIORITIZED IN TERMS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT ASSETS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THE FLOODING SCENARIOS. THE STATE REQUIRES TO YOU GO TO GO THROUGH FOCUS

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AREAS. IT SUPPORTS A VARIETY . WE MAY LOOK AT ANY ASSES THAT ARE SUBJECT TO FLOODING THAT MAY BE A PRIORITY. THE NEXT STEPS FROM HERE, ARE TO DEVELOP A PRELIMINARY ADAPTATION PLAN.

WITH THOSE ASSETS AND THE PREVIOUS TABLE AND THE HIGH PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AND WE'LL SEE WHO IS ELIGIBLE IN 2025 FOR THE PROJECTS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ADAPTATION PLANNING WITH THE ADDITIONAL GRANT MONIES THAT THE COUNTY RECEIVES. THAT IS ABOUT IT.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH?

>> FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE THE 7 BRIDGES THAT YOU HAVE UNTIL THE RED, LIKE HOW DO WE SEE THAT? DO YOU HAVE THAT SOME ARE WHERE WE CAN LOOK UP WHERE THOSE BRIDGES ARE?

>> YES. WECAN SHARE THAT INFORMATION. WE HAVE A MAP THAT WE SHARED. WE HAVE A STEERING COMMITTEE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT BUT WE HAVE A STEERING COMMITTEE THAT THE COUNTY HAS ESTABLISHED. WE SHARED ALL OF THOSE ASSETS WITH THE COMMITTEE. AND WE'LL SHARE THE 35 DIFFERENT FLOODED SCENARIOS SO YOU CAN SEE WHEN THOSE ASSETS ARE VULNERABLE TO

WHAT TYPES OF STORM EVENTS. >> WILL THAT BE ONLINE IN OUR COUNTY'S WEBSITE? I'M JUST CURIOUS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE

WHAT THEY'RE DOING. >> THAT IS THE INTENT, YES.

>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, THIS INFORMATION WILL ALL BE AVAILABLE. RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL FINALIZING THE RESULTS OF THIS PROJECT. BUT WHAT THAT IN COMPLETE, THE FINAL REPORT AND ALL OF THE MAPS AND WEB MAPS WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE THROUGH

OUR COUNTY WEBSITE. >> IS THIS GOING TO GO FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR THE STRATEGIC PLAN AT SOME POINT,

IN INFORMATION? >> NO, MA'AM, NOT THAT I'M

AWARE OF. >> I THINK IT WOULD KIND OF

FIT, DOWN YOU THINK? >> THIS IS A SPECIFIC GRANT THAT IS ESTABLISHED FOR RESILIENCY AND BASICALLY PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE COASTAL CONSERVATION AND ELEMENTS AND EVEN RESILIENCY TYPE LANGUAGE THAT IS GOING TO BE OUT THERE FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER AND I'M SURE WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK AS WE SPEAK. SO NOT THIS IS SUCH. BUT THESE TYPES OF ISSUES CAN BE ADDRESSED.

>> I MEANT LIKE THE RESEARCH THAT THEY'VE DISCOVERED AND WILL BE APPLIED TO THE DIFFERENT AREAS, IN THE

STRATEGIC PLAN. >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE INTEGRATED DIRECTLY INTO THAT. BUT IT WILL BE A RESOURCE. I BELIEVE THE DATA WAS FROM NOAH. THAT IS A RESPECTED AUTHORITY.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

>> OKAY. >> I WANT TO TAKE A QUICK MOMENT TO THANK OUR FRIENDS AT THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL COUNCIL THAT AIDED OUR STAFF IN WRITING THIS GRANT APPLICATION AND THEY ARE A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THIS. I WANT TO

THANK THEM. >> THANK YOU.

>> THERE IS NO REQUIRES ACTION AT THIS TIME. IS THAT CORRECT.

[ Public Comment]

WE'LL HEAR PUBLIC NEXT ON AGENDA NUMBER 4? SEEING THAT.

>> THAT SAY US TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AT 11:30. WE'RE ONE MINUTE EARLY. WE'LL TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOT ON THEIR REGULAR AGENDA. ANYONE PERSON WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS. THEY WILL BE PROVIDED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND FOLLOW THE RULES OF DECORUM.

AND IT MAY NOT INCLUDE AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD. NO SLANDERIOUS MARKS OR BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR. ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS ANY OVERHEAD MATERIAL, WE ASK THAT BE PRESENTED TO THE CLERK OF THE COURT TO IT BE ENTERED INTO

THE PUBLIC RECORD. THANK YOU. >> I'M CAROL BEGAN BY 12 BEACH

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SOUTH. I'M GOING TO READ A LETTER THAT ONE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS WROTE AND SENT TO ME. SHE HAD WRITING TO ACCORDING TO THE ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH SHORE DRIVE. THIS PROJECT PRESENTS A GREAT MANY SERIOUS ISSUES. AND WE LOCAL HOMEOWNERS AND RESIDENTS HAVE RECEIVED LITTLE OF ANY MEANINGFUL ASSURANCE OR ANSWERS. ACCORDING TO THE OWNERSHIP OF THE GREEN SPACE, ACCORDING TO THE PNR AND OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, THEY DO NOT KNOW THE OWNERSHIP OF OUR SPACE. THE TRAFFIC STUDY HAS NEVER BEEN DONE. WATER QUALITY HAS NEVER BEEN DONE AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE. AND MORE BROADLY, THERE NEEDS TO BE A COST ANALYST FOR ONGOING MAINTENANCE. IT WILL NOT GENERATE ONE DIME IN REVENUE.

WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM REPAIRS WATER QUALITY, SECURITY, POLLUTION, CONCERNS AND EROSION? IN A TOUR IN JANUARY, THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SAID THAT A SHORELINE BARRIER WILL BE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE FOR THE PAVED TRAIL THAT IS TWO FEEL LONG. WE HAVE HAD 2 AND A HALF FEET OF WATER OVER THE PROPOSED IN 2021, YET THE COUNTY HAS NOT ADDRESSES IT. IS THERE MONEY TO BUILD A SEAWALL? IF NOT, IT WILL BE UNABLE TO BE REPAIR AND NOT BE ABLE TO BE WALKED ON. WHY DID THEY WAIT 2.5 YEARS TO REPAIR AND CLEAN UP AFTER THE STORM DAMAGE. A RETAINING WALL WILL BE NECESSARY TO STOP THE STORM LINE EROSION ALONG THE AREA. IS IT LITTERED WITH THE FALLEN TREES. THE MEETING ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 6TH, MANY RESIDENTS COMPLAINED TREES HAVE FALLEN DOWN AND LEFT TO ROT. AND NOW IT IS TIME TO BUILD ANOTHER PARK. ARE THE FUND ALLOCATED TO CLEAN UP WHEN THE INEVITABLE HAPPENS WITH FLOODING DAMAGE AND HURRICANE DAMAGE? IT SEEMS NOT. SHORE DRIVE IS A COASTAL AREA AND FLOODING AS BEEN DRAMATICALLY INCREASED OVER THE YEARS. LOSING THE TREES, WILL CONTINUE. DERRICK BOATS HAVE BEEN LEFT ABANDONED PROBABLY LEAKING DIESEL. IF THE COUNTY WANTS TO PAVE THIS ROAD, MAYBE IT SHOULD BE A THREE TO FOUR FOOT WIDE ADA COMPLIANCE ROAD ONLY THREE FOOT WIDE, NOT A BICYCLE PATH.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> NEXT.

>> LYNN DAN HANSON FROM MORE BAN IT'S COVE. I'M GOING TO READ, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I GET EVERYTHING COVERED. I MOVED TO SAINT AUGUST CITIZEN IN SEPTEMBER 2023. I ADDED A $32,000 PATIO. I'VE NOTICED A FREQUENT OVERWHELMING ODOR WORSE THAN STAGNANT WATER AND HUMAN WASTE.

IT CAUSES ME TO HAVE HEADACHES AND NAUGHT SEE NAUSEOUS. I UNDERSTAND THIS IS COMING FROM INDIAN HEAD BIOMASS. I SAW ON MY COMMUNITY'S FACEBOOK WEBSITE THAT MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE HAD THE SAME CONCERN FOR OVER A YEAR. A ALSO SAW ONLINE WHERE A PERSON LIVING MILES FROM MORGAN COVE ON GOING WE'LL GO MAPS EVEN COMPLAINED TO FIRST COAST NEWS IN JUNE 20223 2023 WITH AN ARTICLE WRITTEN AND AN INVESTIGATION INITIATED AT SOME TIME. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO REACH SOMEONE TO FILE A COMPLAINT WITH. I WENT THROUGH ALL THE CITY OFFICES BEFORE FINDING OUT THAT I LIVE IN ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY AND NOT THE CITY. I THEN CONTACTED MULTIPLE COUNTY AGENCIES AND SEND DOZENS OF E-MAILS REQUESTING FOLLOW-UP. SOME I NEVER GOT A RESPONSE FROM AND OTHERS JUST TOLD ME TO OTHER AGENCIES AND THUS WAS SENT HERE. THAT IS WHY I'M HERE TODAY. INDIAN HEAD HAS BEEN MADE WELL AWARE OF THE

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PROBLEM BUT NOTHING TO REMEDY THE SITUATION. ONE INVESTIGATION SAID THAT THEY DID A SNIFF TEST AND REPORTED THE PROBLEM WAS FIXED. I THINK MY ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN HONESTLY SAY THE PROBLEM IS NOT FIXED. THERE WILL BE GREENHOUSE EMISSIONS. AND THE EPA REGULATES 190 HAZARDOUS AIR POLLUTANT, AND I BROUGHT THE LIST FOLLOWING THE EPA GUIDELINES. WHEN DOING BUSINESS IN THE UNITED STATES, COMPANIES HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO NOT JUST ONE, BUT TO TWO SETS OF ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATORY BODIES. THIS IS A FEDERAL LAW.

SOMETHING THAT IS SO POWERFUL TO CAUSE ALL OF THE SIDE EFFECTS. I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF ANY OF THE AGENCIES FOR THESE POLLUTANT AND WHY ST. JOHN'S COUNTY IS NOT RESPONDING.

>> CAN YOU PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS AS WELL?

>> 600 MORGAN TREASURE ROAD. >> THANK YOU.

>> HARLEY HEALTH DAVIDSON. MY ADDRESS WAS 284 OWE LAY ROAD.

MY FATHER BUT THAT HOUSE. I CONTACTED ALL OF YOU REGARDING MY NEIGHBOR WHO BUILT ON THE PROPERTY LINE IN 2020, COMPLETE APARTMENT ON THE PROPERTY LINE. I HAVE A WALL ON MY PROPERTY LINE THAT GOES 40 FEET. MY MOM, MY 94-YEAR-OLD MOTHER, WHERE CODE ENFORCEMENT IS ABUSING MY POOR MOTHER BY GIVING THE VIOLATOR DUE DILIGENCE. HE STILL HAS NOT TAKEN DOWN. I COULD SEE A TOILET THROUGH THE SLAT OF THE FENCE. THE SILHOUETTE. THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES WHEN THEY PRESENTED TO THE ABATEMENT BOARD, THEY MADE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS A LITTLE SHED. WHO IS GETTING PAID OFF. YOU PASS THE BUCK TO THE BOARDS. NOTHING IT HAPPENING. THIS GUY WAS A BUILDER -- OR IS A BUILDER AND HE IS BUILDING OUT OF HIS SCOPE. THE DEPP OF PROFESSIONAL REGULATIONS DO NOT APPLY FOR THE GUYS THAT ARE CAUSING A CRIMES AGAINST THE PUBLIC CITIZENSES. MAKE YOUR REPORT. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO MAKE A POLICE REPORT. MY MOM IS 94. THEY MAY DIE BEFORE THIS WALL COMES DOWN. I'VE HAD TO MOVE BECAUSE OF THE HARASSMENT.

THIS GUY HAS DUG UP MY MAILBOX. I'VE CALLED THE COPS FOR FOUR YEARS. IT IS LIKE NOTHING EVER HAPPENS. I HOPE WE GET A NEW SHERIFF. HE JUST LOOKS THE OTHER WAY WITH ALL OF OUR COMPLAINTS IN THE HOOD, WATERFRONT HOOD, SO I GUESS.

BUT ANYWAY. CODE ENFORCEMENT, WE NEED TO ENFORCE THESE RULES. SETBACKS ARE TO KEEP YOUR NEIGHBORS FROM ENCROACHING ON YOUR PROPERTY. WHY DO YOU ALL LOOK THE OTHER WAY? I

DON'T KNOW. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. JESSIE FOX, 532 FALCON ROAD. I THINK I'M IN YOUR DISTRICT. MY FIVE AND I ARE BLESSED ENOUGH TO PURCHASE A HOME IN 2022. THE SAME WEEK, WE ASKED WHAT IS THE SMELL? WHAT IS THIS? BEING A TRANSPLANT FROM TENNESSEE, SIX YEARS AGO, MAYBE IS IT THE SWAMP LAND? MAYBE IS IT SOD, COW MANURE. WE WERE TOLD IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE. THAT HAVE THE FORWARD TO TODAY, WE KNOW THAT IT IS INDIAN HEAD BIOMASS AND THEIR COMPOST PROCESS THAT THEY

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DO. IT IS NOT JUST A NORMAL COMPOST SMELL. THERE ARE DAYS THAT WE CANNOT OPEN THE WINDOWS OF OUR HOME PAUSE IT SMELLS LIKE WE'RE IN A PORTA-POTTY ON A HOT DAY. WHEN THE WIND BLOWS A CERTAIN WAY, WITH SMELL IT. ON DAYS THAT THEY BRING IN TRUCKS, WE SELL IT. MY WIFE AND I ARE NOT STABLE ENOUGH TO PUT THE HOUSE ON THE MARK AND MOVE. IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT SO WE'RE BEGGING YOU TO LOOK INTO IT. I READ THROUGH THEIR APPLICATION. FUNNY ENOUGH, WE MOVED IN 2016 WITH MY FAMILY IN PRAIRIE LAKES. WE DIDN'T SMELL A THING. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY WERE IN THE OPERATION THAT THEY'RE IN NOW TILL ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO. SO SOMETHING CHANGED WITH THE OPERATION TO THE POINT WHERE WE DRIVE DOWN 214 NOW AND WE CAN SMELL IS DOWN. THE DAY. WE CAN SMELL THE OPERATION. IS IT CAUSING US TO HAVE CONCERNS, NOT ONLY ABOUT OUR INVESTMENT, BUT OUR HEALTH.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SMELL IS DOING TO OUR WATER OR PHYSICAL HEALTH. WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. WE'RE HERE REACHING OUT FOR HELP. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE OUR SAVIOR. BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU CAN LOOK INTO THIS. WE MADE CALL TOES THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCIES TO EVERYONE THAT THEY TOLD US TO AND WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANSWERS YES.

>> WE'LL LOOK INTO IT, THANK YOU.

>>> I LIVE AT DAVID GANGYI I'M AGAINST THE TRAIL. I SAW A VIDEO PROGRAM CALLED 904. I NEVER SAW IT BEFORE. BUT THERE IS AN INDIVIDUAL ON THE SHOWED WITH A BIG BARED, BEARD, BIGGER THAN MIN. THEY SAID THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO OWN THE PROPERTY. THESE ARE THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE MAINTAINED THE PROPERTY FROM 1948 TO APPROXIMATELY 2018 OR 2019, WHEN THE COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION SENT CEASE AND AND DESIST ORDER. WE ASKED, HOW CAN YOU BUILD THIS TRAIL? THIS WAS FROM CHRISTINE VALERIE. I WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF ITEMS. IT SAYS, IN GENERAL, OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND REMAINS WITH THE SUBDIVIDERS THAT DEEDED US THE LAND A COUPLE YEARS LATER AND IS NOT CLEAR WHO CARTLY OWNED CARTLY OWNED THE UNDERLINING PROPERTY. SO THE COUNTY IS UNSURE OF THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY. SHOULD THAT NOT BE SORT THE OUT BEFORE WE BUILD A TRAIL? THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO USE EASEMENTS TO BUILD A TRAIL. THEY BELIEVE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT THROUGH EASEMENTS. IF THAT THE CASE, WHAT IS PREVENTING THEM FROM BUILDING A TEN TENNIS COURT OR WATER PARK. IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE TRAIL. IS IT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

IN ADDITION TO THAT WE HAVE A DOCUMENT HERE THAT IS THE GRANT APPLICATION FROM I BELIEVE 2021. ON HERE, THIS IS FOR THE $400,000 GRANT. IT SHOWS NUMBER 3, OWNERSHIP, SITE CONTROL ISSUES MUST BE RESOLVED BY THE CLOSE OF SUBMISSION PERIOD AND IT SAYS ST. JOHNS COUNTY OWNS IT. DON'T YOU THINK THAT SHOULD BE SORTED OUT BEFORE YOU START BUILDING A TRAIL? YOU SHOULD DELAY THE VOTE TO TALK ABOUT THIS. FLAGLER COLLEGE WAS OUT RUNNING ON THE ROAD THIS MORNING. IT IS A SAFE ROAD. WE BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN BECOME, INSTEAD OF VILLANS, YOU COULD BE HEROES IF YOU COULD CONSIDER, WOW, A WALK. HOW ABOUT THAT? YOU'RE NOT GOING TO UPSET THOUGHTS OF VOTERS THIS FALL. IF YOU PUT A SIDEWALK IN, THIS PROBLEM GOES

AWAY. THANK YOU. >> >

>> GOOD MORNING. SHERRY BADGER 2122 SOUTH COLLEGE AVENUE.

THERE SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A LOT OF DISAPPOINTED PEOPLE. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY BEFORE THE LAWYER

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FOR IF THE DEVELOPER GETS HERE THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PUT ON THE LEWIS SPEEDWAY. I ENCOURAGE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO GET IN YOUR CAR FROM 3:45 AND GO FROM HERE TO 16 ON A SPEEDWAY. IS IT LIKE A RACE WAY. TRAFFIC IS ON AND OFF. THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ROAD IS TERRIBLE. I BROUGHT YOU PICTURES HERE LAST YEAR AFTER FLOODING IN THE STORM, NOT EVEN A MAJOR STORM. YOU ALL REALLY NEED TO WAKE UP AND START WORKING FOR WE THE PEOPLE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE REALLY NOTICING THAT A LOT IS GOING UNDONE. GOD BLESS. HAVE A GREAT DAY. >

>> I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THE PARK'S FOUNDATION ONE MORE TIME. THIS IS WHAT THEY USED TO SEEK ENDORSEMENT FROM YOU GUYS. THEY WERE FORMED IN 2020 AND ESTABLISHED IN 2021. THIS IS THE INTENT BEHIND THE PROCEDURES. THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE A HOME THAT HAS NO HISTORIC WALL VALUE. AND KNOW ORIGINAL PRODUCTS THAT ARE STILL LEFT IN THE HOUSE FROM THIS MUSEUM THAT THEY INTEND TO BUILD . THERE IS NOT ONE. THE INTERIOR MIGHT HAVE BEEN -- THERE HAS BEEN NO EXTERIOR MAINTENANCE MADE IN THE BUILDING. AND IT LOOKS TO BE OVER 50 YEARS. HERE IS THE AGREEMENT THAT THE PARKS FOUNDATION HAS COLLABORATED WITH. I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION, EVERYTHING WILL BE HAND DELIVERED TO REINKING SPECIFIC THROUGH AVOID PUBLIC RECORDS. I WOULD LIKE FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO READ THROUGH THIS AS WELL AND DISCUSSING THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE COUNTY, THE THIRD PARTY BENEFICIARY, WHAT IS DAVID

MANOTT. >> THE COMPLIANCE WITH FEDERAL AND STATE LAW. THEY HAVE NOT FILED A TAX RETURN SINCE THEY

HAVE INSECTED THEIR PROJECT. >> AND CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, AND NONLOBBYING AGAIN. THERE ARE NOW PUBLIC RECORDS. AND LASTLY, IS WHAT THEY PROPOSED WAS HISTORICAL, THE LOCATION, WHICH THEY PLAN TO REMOVE, THE SETTING WHICH NO LONGER EXISTS BECAUSE THE BUILDING HAS WILL BE COMPLETELY REMODELS. THE FEELING IS A HORRIFIC EVENT THAT WAS PERPETRATED IN OUR PAST AND THE ASSOCIATION. THE ASSOCIATION THAT I WILL GIVE THEM THEIR BECAUSE THEY SUPPOSEDLY HAVE A PICTURE THAT MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. WAS THERE. HERE IS WHERE WE HAVE THE PROOF OF THIRD PARTY BENEFICIARY. THE STAFF RECOMMENDED REHABILITATING THE STRUCTURE. IF THE OWNER IS INTERESTED, THEY COULD GET A TAX EXEMPTION. THIS IS JUST -- EVERYTHING I FOUND. IN THESE YEARS, THEY'VE RECEIVED $350,000 FROM US AND THEY HAVE NOT FILED A TAX RETURN SINCE.

THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE. WE HAVE GIVEN THEM $350,000 AND NO ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU CAN LOOK ON THEIR IRS WEBSITE. NO ANYTHING.

PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS. >>> CHARLIE HUNT. MILL CREEK ESTATES. THIS PAST FRIDAY ON THE 16TH, DURING MOST OF THE DAY, THERE WAS A HEAVY SMOKE COVERAGE AFTER IDP, 16 AREA.

GOING TO LOOK ON A ONLINE. THEY WENT THROUGH THE PERMIT TO GET THE BURN. BUT THEY COULD NOT HAVE PUT OUT SIGNS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, CAUTION. BURN BEING CONDUCTED?

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OR PUT IT ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE, THAT IS LOOKS GREAT AND FABULOUS AND ALL THE NICE ICONS ON TO PUT OUT INFORMATION LIKE THAT. WHERE THE BURN WAS LOCATED WAS -- I LOOKED AT IT ON THE MAP. WITH THE FRONT MOVING IN, IT WAS PUSHING THE SMOKE INTO THE AREA. IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT DOOR AT NEIGHBOR APP . BUT THE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE IN THE COMMUNITY WAS VERY POOR. POOR IS MEAN IT WASN'T KNOWLEDGE. IN WASN'T ACKNOWLEDGES TO THE COMMUNITY IN THE AREA. I ASKED MY SON ABOUT IT WHEN HE GOT HOME FROM DECOY. HE SAID, YES, HE COULD SPELL IN DECROY. GRANTED IT WAS A SCHEDULED BURN. BUT THERE WAS NO COMMUNITY KNOWLEDGE PUT OUT. IT SHOULD BE PUT OUT THAT A CONTROL BURN PUT OUT HIGH SCHOOL OR K THROUGH 8 PROGRAM NOW SHOULD BE MADE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD FOR ALL THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE PUTTING IN THE MONEY TO BUILD THAT PLACE, THEY COULD PUT IT OUT, YES THERE, IS A COORDINATED BURN GOING TO HAPPEN. DEAL WITH IT OR GET OUT OF THE AREA WHILE WE'RE DOING IT. IT IS OUR OWN MONEY AND WE'RE MAKING OUR OWN

WAY AROUND HERE. THANK YOU. >>> SUSAN MILLER ST. AUGUSTINE FLORIDA. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SHORE DRIVE TRAIL AGAIN. I'M PLEASED TO READ THAT ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HOSTED A COASTAL SHORELINE PRESERVATION SEMINAR FOR THE EAST SIDE OF THE RIVER. HOWEVER ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE RIVER, YOU'RE GETTING READY TO VOTE ON AN 8-FOOT WIDE ASPHALT TRAIL WHICH IS AN OIL PETROLEUM PRODUCT TO BE PLACED ALONG THREE AND A HALF NILES RIVERFRONT. THE PURPOSE TO KILL THE WILDLIFE. WHY DON'T WE TOSS THIS IN THE TRASH CAN AND GET AN ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY THREE FOOT SIDEWALK. WHY DO WE NEED A SIX FOOT WHERE THE PAVEMENT WILL GO FROM. ROAD TO THE RIVER? THERE WILL BE NOTHING LEFT EXCEPT A COUPLE LITTLE SHRUBS IN THE WETLANDS. IS THAT REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO? WE JUST HEARD FROM THE FLOOD PEOPLE A SHORT TIME AGO.

IS IT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO SQUANDER MONEY A COUPLE WALKERS AND EIGHT FOOD WIDE PAVEMENT TO WALK ON AND FLAGLER COLLEGE SENT THEIR STUDENTS TO WALK A COUPLE DAYS A WEEK. THERE ARE SEVERAL LOW COST OPTIONS THAT WILL ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS WITHOUT THE HERE IS DEVASTATION TO THE GREENWAY AND THE POLLUTION TO THE RIVER. THEY SAY IT WILL CAUSE TREE CANOPY DEVASTATION. I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DOING THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING.

>>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS PAMELA ADAMS. I ALSO LIVE AT MORGAN STRETCHER ROAD ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. ME AND MY

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HUSBAND MOVED HERE FROM CALIFORNIA. WE RETIRED FROM ORANGE COUNTY JAIL. WE PURCHASED A HOUSE LAST YEAR.

BUT AS SOON AS WE GOT HERE, WE CANNOT ENJOY OUR HOME BECAUSE AS SOON AS WE OPEN THE DOOR, IT WILL BE THE SMELL THAT IS HORRIBLE SMELL. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN TO YOU GUYS, EVEN YESTERDAY IT WAS A HOLIDAY, WE WANT TO OPEN THE DOORS AND ENJOY OUR BACKYARD. BUT I CAN'T. THE SMELL IS TO HORRIBLE. I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE ALL MY MEDICATION. I HAVE A SEVERE ALLERGY. I JUST NOTICED THIS MEDICATIONS ARE NOT WORKING FOR ME ANYMORE. IF I GO HOME HERE AND NOT COUGHING BECAUSE THE AIR IS CLEAN AND I CAN READ REALLY GOOD. BUT EVER TIME I GO HOME, FROM MY GARAGE TO MY FRONT DOOR, I WILL START COUGHING, WHEEZING AND EVERYTHING. I DON'T HAVE ASTHMA. BUT IS IT AN IS IT AN ALLERGY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THIS SMELL FROM THE INDIAN HEAD FERTILIZER FACTORY.

OUR HOUSE IS A HALF MILE WORD WHERE THEY DIG THIS -- I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SAY THE WORD [BLEEP], THEY DIG IT EVERY TIME IS RAINS, THE SMELL WILL COME OUT. I DON'T KNOW. I JUST GOT HERE TO SEE TO PLEASE HELP US. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

YOU CAN GUIDE US OR WHAT WE CAN DO TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. IT IS REALLY HORRIBLE. I CANNOT IMAGINE IF ANY OF YOU WOULD SMELL IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE TIME FOR TWO MORE.

>> I'M BRUCE MILLIGAN I LIVE ON SHORE DRIVE. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SHORE DRIVE TRAIL THAT IS GOING INTO ST.

AUGUSTINE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD. WOULD OF COMMISSIONERS HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE MORE KNOWLEDGE IN 2016. LAST WEEK, ONE OF YOUR COMMISSIONERS IN THE GROUP HERE ASKED FOR A PUBLIC MEETING DOWN AT THE SAINT EAST LIBRARY ON OFF U.S. 1. HE HAD PARK AND RECREATION THERE. AND HE ALSO HAD A GENTLEMAN HERE TO THE RIGHT OF ME, I CANNOT SAY HIS NAME, OF COURSE. BUT HE WAS THERE AS WELL. IT WAS A SURPRISE TO ALL OF US. ME PERSONALLY, BECAUSE WENT DOOR-TO-DOOR AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A MEETING. PARK AND RECREATION PUT OUT A NEWS BLAST. THEY DID NOT BRING ANY SIGNS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE THAN FOR THE NEIGHBOR TO KNOW THERE WAS GOING TO BE A MEETING IN REGARDS TO THE SHORE DRIVE TRAIL. THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF ISSUES THAT GO ALONG WITH IT. YOU PROBABLY HEARD A LOT OF THEM AS WELL. SO REGARDS TO THAT. THE OUTCOME WAS QUITE LARGE. LARGE ENOUGH THEY HAD TO STOP PEOPLE FROM COMING INTO THE ROOM. IT WOULD FILL THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY OF THAT ROOM AND THE LIBRARY. THAT BEING SAID, THERE SEEMS TO LOT OF INTEREST. THERE ARE SOME INTERESTS FOR IT AND SOME INTERESTS AGAINST IT. THERE IS PROBABLY AN EQUILIBRIUM IN REGARDS TO THE OVERALL CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH IN MY WALK THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT IS A SAFETY ISSUE. OKAY.

SOME PEOPLE THINK THERE IS A SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE PEOPLE WALK UNTIL THE STREETS AND PUSH THEIR CARRIAGES AND RUN.

FLAGLER COLLEGE BRINGS THEIR TRACK RUNNERS AND THEY RAN IN THE STREET. THEY FEEL SAFE ENOUGH TO DO THAT. OTHER PEOPLE DO NOT FEEL SAFE ENOUGH TO DO THAT COMPROMISE HAS BEEN, LET'S PUT A SIDEWALK IN. REASONABLE. AWESOME. THE GENTLEMAN TO THE RIGHT. HE CAME WITH AN IDEA AS USING THE ABANDONED FIREHOUSE AS A PARK HEAD THAT IS A GREAT IDEA TOO.

YOU CAN GO FURTHER AND MAYBE USE THE GREEN SPACE THAT IS A STRAIGHT, NARROW, FLAT PATH THAT IS NOT NEAR ANY WATER.

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PEOPLE CAN PLANTS AND THEY CAN DO THEIR 3.2-MILE TRIAL THERE.

THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION. THINK THAT EVERYBODY HERE AND THE COMMISSIONERS. TWO OF THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW ABOUT THIS VOTED FOR THE APPROPRIATIONS OF THE GO AHEAD APPLICATION IN THIS REGARDS. GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT, ALL OF YOU. THANK

YOU. >>> GOOD MORNING. ZACK -- 2020 COUNTY ROAD SAINT AUGUSTINE. I'VE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR 17 YEARS AND WATCHING IT GROW AND CHANGE. I WENT TO MIT FOR A FEWER YEARS TO GET MY BIOCHEMICAL DEGREE AND CAME BACK BECAUSE I LOVE THIS COMMUNITY P AS THE COMMUNITY HAS GROWN AND IT GOES FOR ANY COMMUNITY AROUND FLORIDA OR THE UNITED STATES, THE LIFE CYCLE OF THINGS THAT WE PRODUCE AND CONSUME HAS BECOME MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT.

INDIAN HEAD STARTED COMPOSTING IN 2014. I'VE BEEN WORKING THEM FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS. I'M PROUD OF THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT A FACILITY TAKE A FULL 100% RECYCLING PROCESS AND IT IS FOR THE FARMING IN THE COMMUNITY USE FOR PREVENT OVER FERTILIZATION AND WATER OFF CONTAMINATION THAT HAVE CAUSED A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AROUND THE STATE. WE'RE WORKING ON A FEW INITIATIVES RIGHT NOW TO HELP REMOVE THE PLASTICS FROM THE YARD DEBRIS AND WORKING WITH THE USDA TO

[5. North Ponte Vedra Beach nourishment update and Contract Award. SJC Purchasing Division issued a formal Invitation for Bids (IFB #1677), in accordance with SJC Purchasing Policy, to complete the dredge beach restoration of North Ponte Vedra Beach, a s specified. Bids were received on February 13 , 2024, and the bid tabulation is provided a s part of the presentation. Due to the size of the exhibits included in the Bid Documents, they are available upon request from SJC Purchasing. As part of the IFB, Bidders were able to provide bids on two Bid Options: Bid Option A, which provides for completion by or before 10/7/24 ; and Bid Option B, which provides for completion by or before 3/2/25 , in order to provide maximum consideration for cost feasibility by completion time. Staff will issue a Notice of Intent, based upon Board's approval/denial, which initiates the Protest Period. Provided no Protest is received, Staff will proceed based upon Board's direction. ]

HELP IMPROVE OUR SOIL QUALITY AND MORE USE OF FERTILIZER THAT WE HAVE BEEN SEEING IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND CLOSE TO HOME. WE'RE COMMITTED TO BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE LAND AND WE'RE TRYING TO HELP EVERYONE DO THE SAME. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> MA'AM, THAT WAS THE FINAL ONE. THAT CLOSES OUR FINAL GENERAL COMMENT AND WE'LL HEAR ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO BREAK

FOR LUNCH. >> I'M HERE FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. I WANT TO MENTION TWO QUICK THINGS, THE PRESENTATION IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS PUBLISHED IS WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS QUICKLY AND GET THIS AND AGENDA AND THE BIDS CAME IN AFTER THE PRINT DATE. SECONDLY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMUNITY, THE BOARD AND MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE COUNTY FOR US TO GET TO THIS POINT. IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY. IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS TO GET HERE. THIS IS A GOOD NEWS STORY THAT WE'RE AT THE FINISH LINE. WITH THAT, I'LL GET STARTED. SO WE'LL GO OVER THE RESULTS AND THE OVERVIEW AND THE FUNDING AND THE OPERATION ITS SELF. SO THE SURVEY RESULTS WE ASKED THE RESIDENTS IF THEY WANTED THE PROJECT AND WE TALKED AT MSTU WITH THE SURVEY IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE THIS PART OF THE PROJECT. AND AS WE KNOW, WE HAVE -- SECTIONS OF THE BEACH. RESPONSE RATE WAS 62% IN THE NORTH AND 67% IN THE SOUTH WITH AN AVERAGE OF 90% WANTED THE PROJECT. AND OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT. THIS IS AGAIN, FAMILIAR TO THE BOARD. EYE TALKED ABOUT THIS SEVERAL TIMES. THE PROJECT LOCATION IS FROM YOU DUVAL LANE TO THE GTM, APPROXIMATELY NINE MILES. WE'LL BRING IN 2 MILLION CUBIC YARDS OF SANDS THAT WILL HELP TO RESTORE THE DO YOU KNOW, THE BERM AND UNIFORM FOR RESTILL RESILIENCY FOR THE BEACH AND OVERALL RECREATIONAL VALUE WILL INCREASE BECAUSE OF THE HEALTHY BEACH IS A GOOD THING. SO I SHOWED THE SLIDE BEFORE. I WANTED TO SHOW IT AGAIN BECAUSE I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SEE. WE'LL TRY TO BERM. IS 8 FEET

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ABOVE THE WATER LINE. AND WHAT YOU SHOULD SEE BETWEEN THE NINE MILES SEASON 40 AND 180 FEET OF BEACH WIDTH. SO THE WATER LINE IS GOING TO BE PUSHED OUT BETWEEN 40 AND 180 FEET. WE SHOULD SEE THE OPERATION MOVE, BETWEEN 200 AND 600 FEET PER DAY. THAT TRANSLATES TO ABOUT TYPICAL IN SOME PLACES WITH A LOT SAND. JUST KIND OF SHOWING AVERAGES. WE ALSO ANTICIPATE BETWEEN 1 AND FOUR WEEKS THAT THE PIPELINE WILL BE IN FRONT OF ONE PARTICULAR PROPERTY. THE IDEA THIS IS HOW IT WORKS IS BASICALLY, WE'LL HAVE THE PIPES GOING INTO THE SHORE AT THE OCEAN FROM DIFFERENT LEVELS AND DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE BEACH AND THE DREDGE COMES IN AND TIES INTO THAT AND PUMPS ON THE BEACH AND GOES LEFT AND RIGHT AND MOVES DONE THE BEACH THE NEXT CORRIDOR AND LEFT AND RIGHT AGAIN. AS IT GOES DOWN. YOU SEEK THE BEACH, ON THE TOP RIGHT CORNER. THEY'LL BE BUILDING WALKOVERS. SO THEY CAN WALKOVER AND GET TO THE WATER. AS THEY ENJOY THE BEACH.

EASEMENTS IS A BIG ISSUE. WE NEED ALL THE EASEMENTS TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS PROJECT. WE HAVE THREE THAT AT MAN IN THOSE. THERE ARE A WHOLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND WE COULD GO DOWN THE ROUTE OF LEGAL OPTIONS IF WE WANTED TO SO SECURE AS MANY EASEMENTS AS WE CAN. I BELIEVE THE RESIDENTS ONCE THEY START TALKING TO US, IT WILL GET A LITTLE HIGHER.

THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE EASEMENT. WE GOOD AROUND THEIR PROPERTY. THIS IS WHAT THEY END UP WITH. IT IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. BUT IT WILL BE TO THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT OF THEM. WE CANNOT DRAW A STRAIGHT LINE DOWN TO THE PROPERTY. WE HAVE TO KIND OF HAVE SOME TIME OF SLOPE SO WE HAVE SOME SAFETY IN IT. SO THEY'RE BASICALLY TAKING SAND AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THEY ARE A HOLDOUT FOR WHATEVER REASON THAT THEY WE WANT TO SHOW THE SUCCESS OF THE PROJECT IS FOR THE AMOUNT OF STAND THAT WE PUT ON THE BEACH AND WHAT IS GOING TO PROTECT. YOU CAN SEE TO THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT OF THAT HOUSE HOW MUCH SAND IS GOING TO BE THERE. I'M NOT TRYING TO STRONG ARM ANYBODY. BUT I WANT TO PROVIDE THEM THE FACTS AND SHOW THEM WHAT IT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE SO THEY CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ON THEIR

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OWN. >> THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO TO LOOK LIKE. WHERE WE HAVE NO EASEMENTS, THIS IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE. PROJECT COST? THE GOOD NEWS HERE IS WE HAVE ROUGHLY 38 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET. THE CONSTRUCTION BIDS CAME BACK AND THEY CAME IN AT $36 MILLION.

THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE WEEK'S MARINE IS THE LOWEST BIDDER.

AND WE HAVE SOME FUNDING LEFTOVER TO EXCUSES THE PROJECT. THE TOTAL PROJECT IS 38 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

FOR TODAY'S ACTION, I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS. WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO COVER THE CONSTRUCTION COST TO GET THIS BUILT. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE COST FOR ANY POST MONITORING OR THE NEXT TIME THAT WE DO THIS PROJECT. WE CAN ADDRESS THAT DURING THE BUDGET HEARINGS AND LOOK AT THAT DURING THAT TIME FRAME. WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP. BUT THE PERFORMANCE ON THIS IS THE CONTRACTOR PERFORMANCE AND THEY HAVE TO BE DONE BY OCTOBER 7TH. THE PRELIMINARY SCHEDULE, WE'RE STILL IN THE BLACKOUT PERIOD, SO WE CANNOT TALK TO THEM. BUT BASED OFF THE BIDS THAT THEY PROVIDED US, MOBILIZATION WILL BE SOMETIME IN MID-MARCH, WE'RE THINKING AFTER THE SPRING BREAK. THEY CANNOT WORK DURING SPRING BREAK. THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE BID. THAT IS THE MONDAY OF THE SPRING BREAK.

AND THE SAND PLACEMENT IS MOST LIKELY GOING TO START IN APRIL.

THEY'RE SAYING APRIL 1 OF THE, BUT MOST LIKELY MID-APRIL. IT WILL END THE PROJECT. THIS IS A 24/7 OPERATION. THIS IS NOT A STOP PROJECT AT NIGHT OR THE WEEKENDS. THIS IS 24/7 TO GET THE PROJECT DONE AND GET OUT. SO THERE WILL BE INTERMEDIATE BEACH CLOSURES AT THE CONSTRUCTION SITE. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT PICTURE RIGHT THERE, THAT SECTION IS GOING TO BE CLOSED WHILE THE EQUIPMENT IS THERE. SAFETY IS OUR TOP PRUITT PRIORITY. IF THEY BRING A LOT OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND THROUGHOUT THE TIME, THEY ARE INTERMITTENTLY CLOSING IT NO AND OUT. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR ON MOVING THEIR EMPLOYEE VEHICLES THAT THEY DON'T TAKE UP THE PARKING SPOTS. WE'RE TRYING TO FIND AN OFFSITE LOCATION FOR THEM TO GO AND FERRY THEM BACK AND FORTH TO THE BEACH SITE SO THEY ARE NOT TAKING UP THE BEACH-GOERS' PARKING SPOTS. AND WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE RESIDENTS, IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT

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THERE PERFECT, YOU KNOW THE WALKWAY THERE, THERE IS THE WOODEN WALKWAY, THAT WALKWAY IS GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN SOME MOVING MALTSES, MALTS. THE PLANTATION IS DOING A PROJECT ON THE WALL THERE. SO WE HAD TO DO SOME DEACON FLICKING THERE. THEY ARE TAKING THE SOUTHERN OR 14 FEET TO DO THEIR PROJECT. SO WHEN WE'RE WORKING AND WE HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE AND WE HAVE THE PARK OPEN. WE WILL CONTROL THE FLOW WE HAVE THE SHERIFF DEPUTIES TO DO ALL OF THAT STUFF TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS SAFE. WE ASKED THE PUBLIC TO BE PATIENT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. WE'RE NOT CLOSING THE BEACH FOR FIVE MONTHS INTERMITTENTLY. BUT THEY NEED TO LISTEN TO THE FLAGGERS AND THE SAFETY PEOPLE AS WE MOVE BACK AND FORTH. A LONG-TERM FIX IS WORKING THE PARKS AND REC, WE'LL BE PUTTING IN A HEALTHY MOVING MATT THAT WILL BE MORE SUITABLE FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS THE BEACH THROUGH THERE. I WANT TO SAY THAT THE PLANTATION HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US. WE MET ON FRIDAY. AND WE'RE WORKING ON A FINAL TEMPORARY EASEMENT TO USE THIS SECTION. A PIECE OF THAT SECTION OF THE ACCESS THAT WE NEED AND WE HAVE A POSITIVE MEETING ON FRIDAY TO DO THIS FOR THIS PROJECT. ANOTHER THING THAT CAME UP DURING ONE OF OUR LAST PROJECTS IS THE SEASHELLS.

WE TALKS ABOUT WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE SEASHELLS. I WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY THAT HAPPENED AND WHAT IT IS. WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO ENHANCE SCREENING FOR THE BEACH. IF YOU HEAR US SAYING MECHANIC THAT IS ABOUT WHAT THAT IS. IN OR FOR US TO SCREEN DOWN TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MC EXXON THE MEC WE HAVE TO SCORE DOWN. THEY ARE OFFSHORE BEING BROUGHT ON TO THE BEACH. SO WE HAVE TO SCREEN THEM OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T PUT ANYTHING THAT IS NONDESIRABLE ON THE BEACH. SO WE HAVE SHELLS. SO WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE SHELLS? WE'RE WORKING THE FLORIDA NAVIGATION DISTRICT TO STORE THE SHELLS FOR US IN ORDER FOR US TO LOOK AT RECYCLING OPTIONS IN THE FUTURE. THESE SHELLS CAN BE RECYCLED AND THEY ARE ALLOWING US TO USE ONE OF THEIR SITES TO PUT THE SHELLS IN THERE. IN THE FUTURE, WHEN WE HAVE PERMITTED NONCOMMERCIAL PROJECTS, THEY CAN USE THE SHELLS FOR PROJECTS. THEY'RE NOT BEING THROWN AWAY. IT MAY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GOING INTO A DUMPSTER.

BUT THE END SITE IS NOT A DUMPSTER LIKE LANDFILL. IS IT A LAND THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE TO GO BACK AND RECYCLE THE CELLS. SO PROJECT SAFETY. I SAID IT EARLIER, PROJECT SAFETY IS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN. THERE IS A LOT OF MOVING PIECES WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DREDGE PROJECT. THERE IS A LOT OF TRUCKS ON THE BEACH AND A LOT OF YELLOW EQUIPMENT MOVING AROUND. I THINK WE DO A GOOD JOB OF BRINGING A LOT OF EXTRA SECURITY REQUIREMENTS ON THE CONTRACTOR AND BRINGING IN THE EXTRA SHERIFF DEPUTIES TO HELP US ALONG THE WAY. YOU WILL SEE FLAGGERS. YOU'LL SEE LEAD, ATVS MOVING EQUIPMENT AROUND.

THAT IS THE TOP PRIORITY. WE ASK THE PUBLIC IF YOU SEE THE THINGS MOVING AROUND TO BE PATIENT TO GET THROUGH THIS. WE NEED TO GET THROUGH AND GET THIS PROJECT DONE QUICKLY. WE WILL DO OUR VERY BEST TO GET THIS INFORMATION OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN THROUGH EVERY MEDIA OUTLET AVENUE OR THING THAT WE HAVE AT OUR EXPENSE. WE'RE WORKING OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT TO GET A LOT MORE INFORMATION OUT THERE. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WERE BRAINSTORMING LAST WEEK.

WE'RE GETTING SOME MESSAGING OUT AND SAUL THE NEW THINGS THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT ON THE WEBSITE THIS MORNING. WE'LL SUICIDE THE BEACH BRIEF AND LITTLE CARDS THAT WE GIVE OUT

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THIS IN BUDGET. A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS. KIDS LOVE THOSE BIG MACHINES. DO YOU HAVE A WEBCAM ON THEIR? PEOPLE COULD WATCH WHATEVER THE MACHINES ARE DOING?

>> I'M NOT SURE. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF LIVE CAMERAS ON THE

BEACH. >> THAT WOULD BE COOL.

>> FOR PARKING ON THE TIMES THAT IT WILL BE CLOSED, CAN WE SEE IF NORTH BEACH PARK , MAYBE WE REIMBURSE THEM FOR

PARKING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? >> ABSOLUTELY. WE ARE LOOKING

TO GET THE CONTRACTORS UP. >> WE HAVE THE MICRO INTERSECTION IN THE PLANTATION WALLS BEING CONSTRUCTED . IS THAT ALL GOING TOGETHER?

>> THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES. WHEN WE ARE DONE MOBILIZING , THERE WILL BE TRAFFIC, BUT IT IS NOT THE HEAVY PART OF IT.

WE ARE DE-CONFLICTING AS MUCH AS THE

QUESTIONS. >> WE WILL NOW HERE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO AWARD BID NUMBER 1677 TO THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE BETTER AND SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME FORM AND FORM

[6. Public Hearing * PLNAPPL 2023-03 235 3 State Road 1 3 North Venue & Events. A request to appeal the Planning and Zoning Agency (PZA) denial of a Special Use Permit (SUPMAJ 2023-07) to allow for an indoor/outdoor wedding and special event venue, meeting the general special use criteria of Land Development Code Section 2.03.01.A. The property is zoned Open Rural (OR) and ha s a Residential-B (RES-B) Land Use designation. The site is specifically located at 2353 State Road 1 3 North with the Emergency Vehicle Access to the Pole Barn by way of adjoining property located at 2369 State Road 1 3 North. On 11/02/202 3 the PZA denied SUPMAJ 2023-07 with a vote of 5-0. This request was scheduled for a public hearing with the BCC on 2/06/2024 ; the item was not heard a s the applicant requested a continuance to a date certain of 2/20/2024 . The Board approved this continuance with a vote of 5-0. (Part 1 of 2)]

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WE ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY THAT CONNECTS TO THIS.

AND IT HAD NOW BEEN ABLE TO -- DO TO HAVING --

>> THERE'S ALMOST 12,000 SQUARE FEET.

IT'S USABLE. THE INSPECTION WE ARE WANTING TO USE, SPECIAL COMMUNITY. GET MORE COMMUNITY SUPPORT LOCALLY AS WELL AS A NONPROFIT AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK TO GET MORE ONCE WE HAVE SOMETHING WE CAN SHOW THEM.

THIS IS THE EXPLANATION FOR THE SPECIAL USE.

INDOOR AND OUTDOOR EVENTS. CORPORATE EVENTS ET CETERA.

HOURS OF OPERATION ARE MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY 8:00 UNTIL 10:00.

WE ARE REQUESTING WE HAVE -- FOR ANY EVENT AND ALSO WE WANT YOU TO KNOW WE WILL NOT SELL ALCOHOL OR ANYTHING. THIS GIVES YOU AREA PICTURES THIS IS THERE ALREADY. THIS IS THE ENTRANCE. THERE ARE THREE ASPHALT , WAYS TO ACCESS IT FROM STATE WITH 13. THIS IS SHOWING THE DRIVEWAY THAT HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS

RENTAL HOME THAT WILL WILL LEAD >> TAKING ANY QUESTIONS YOU

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HAVE? >> I WANTED YOU -- IT EXPIRED AND YOU WENT BACK AND -- COULD YOU TAKE ME THE

HISTORY OF THAT AGAIN? >> SURE.

YES WE GOT THE FIRST APPROVAL CLOSED THEN WE DID DUE DILIGENCE FIRST BEFORE THE PROPERTY.

IT'S BEING USED AS AN AIRBNB. THE GIVE US THE APPROVAL.

WE HAD SOME CONTINGENCIES WE HAD TO GET CLEARED AND THAT TOOK TIME. WE HAVE TO SECURE ENGINEERS COMING OUT OF COVID. THAT TOOK A LONG TIME TO GET THE ENGINEER PLAN. WHEN WE WERE READY TO COMMENCE, WE MISSED IT BY TWO WEEKS, THE ONE YEAR MARK.

>> WORKING REALLY HARD THE WHOLE TIME TO GET EVERYTHING WE NEEDED TO HAVE, EVERYTHING TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT BUILDING PLANS. WITH THE DELAYS, EVERYTHING GOING ON. IT TOOK FOREVER.

EVEN THE ENGINEER WOULD BRING SOMEBODY IN TO WRITE THINGS UP, HE WOULD LOSE A CONTRACTOR. HE'S A I HAD TO BRING SOMEBODY ELSE IN. TIME ADDED UP.

>> WE REACHED A MINUTE. LAST YEAR AND CAME BACK IN OCTOBER. AT THAT POINT, IT GOT DENIED.

>> THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FIRST GO AROUND IN THE SECOND GO AROUND, THE APPROVAL AND DENIAL, WE ACQUIRED THIS OTHER PROPERTY. WE ACQUIRED IT BECAUSE OF BORDERS WHAT WILL BE THE EVENT VENUE AND FOR THE PRIVACY AND SECURITY OF THE VENUE, WITHOUT IT WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION.

IT HAD A HOUSE ON IT. IN ORDER TO PAY THE BILLS FOR ACQUIRING IT, WE DECIDED TO LEASE IT ON SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

THERE WAS OPPOSITION THAT CAME UP IN THE LAST MEETING REGARDING THIS UNIT WHICH IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE EVENT SPACE AT ALL. THE REASON WE ARE APPEALING AS WE FEEL IT WAS BASED ON THAT PROPERTY AND NOT THE PROPERTY AT HAND WHICH IS THE EVENT VENUE WHICH IS WHY WE WERE HERE. THAT I USE IS ALLOWED TO HAVE SHORT-TERM RENTAL. AS LONG AS WE PAY THE TAXES TO THE COUNTY AND STATE AND EVERYTHING FOR THAT, WHICH WE DO.

WE FELT LIKE COMING OUT OF THE LAST MEETING THAT THE FOCUS WASN'T EVEN ON THE PROJECT. IT KIND OF GOT DIVERTED TO THIS OTHER PROPERTY. THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY TO

TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN -- >> WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND TIME TO GET IT READY TO COMMENCE AND ARE THERE TO DO

SO. >> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I REFRESHED MY OWN RECOLLECTION. FOR AID TWO WEEK WINDOW IN WHICH THE APPROVAL WAS EXPIRED, YOU WERE READY?

>> WE ASKED IF THERE WAS ANY WAY WE COULD GET EXTENSION THERE WAS A WAY AROUND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.

WE WERE TOLD NO SO START OVER AT THAT POINT.

>> RIGHT. WE HAD CONTINGENCIES TO FILL AND THAT'S WHEN THE TIME STARTED TAKING.

WE WHEN DID TO COMMENCE THINKING IT WAS A JULY MARK AND NOT MARCH. WE WERE A COUPLE LATE.

>> THANK YOU, YOU GUYS. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT AN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL

BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. >> MY NAME IS JEFF DIAMOND.

STATE ROUTE 13. IF WE CONSUME INTO THIS PICTURE. WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT AND WHAT THEY DID NOT ON THE PROPERTY. MY HOUSE SITS NOW BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES BASICALLY. MY CONCERN THE HOLD TIME HAS BEEN WHAT THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO US AND NEIGHBORS AS THEY PLAN TO RENT THIS PROPERTY TO PEOPLE HAVING WRITINGS.

THAT WILL TURN INTO A HOTEL. THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS THAT.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS THAT IN THEIR BACKYARD.

THE NEXT PICTURE, THIS IS FROM MY BACKYARD.

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IT'S ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT REUSING.

IT'S THE PROPERTY BEHIND MY HOUSE WITH A POOL RIGHT THERE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE THE PEOPLE STATING AT THE WEDDING RESIDE IN. IT WILL BE A NUISANCE FOR ME FOR NOISE. EVERY NIGHT, 8:00 A.M.

UNTIL 10:00 P.M., THERE'S NO LIMITATIONS.

THEY COULD HAVE WEDDINGS EVERY DAY.

THAT IS MY CONCERN THAT THIS GIVES AN OPEN-ENDED TICKET TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH THEIR PROPERTY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> MICHAEL MACDONALD.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE LAST MEETING I ATTENDED YOU GUYS WERE ADAMANT ON DENYING AN EXTENSION TO A GENTLE MAN TRYING TO REZONE HIS PROPERTY FROM, I BELIEVE, THE HOMES BOULEVARD AREA. HE WAS DEEMED TO GIVE A YEAR AND IT EXPIRED AND YOU SAID TOUGH LUCK.

I WANTED TO THROW THAT IN THERE. >> I AM LOUIS, ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THIS VENUE. 530 BLACK FOREST.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT YOUR PCA PORT.

THEY DENY THIS SPECIAL REVIEW PERMIT.

IT'S VERY STRONG DENIAL. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT THE PCA AND NOT GRANTING THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT. MY MAJOR CONCERN IS THE FACT THAT THEY ARE OPERATING EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK. UNTIL 10:00 AT NIGHT, AND THERE IS A NOISE ORDINANCE THAT PREVENTS IT FROM DOING -- WHICH MEANS I WILL BE CALLING THE ORDINANCE FOLKS IF THEY VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE EVERY TIME. THERE'S A PARTY.

I KNOW THERE ARE -- HER AND MR. SLAVEN.

SAYING I NOW HAVE TO MONITOR THEM AND THE PARTY AND VENUE GETS OUT OF CONTROL, ESPECIALLY OUTSIDE.

THE MINUTES IN THE PCA, BROUGHT THE ISSUE.

THE NOISE AND IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT BASICALLY CAUSES A NUISANCE FOR ME AND MY ENJOYMENT OF MY PROPERTY, AND ESPECIALLY THE OTHER GENTLEMEN'S PROPERTY. HAVING THAT PARTY HOUSE, MAYBE, WHERE ALCOHOL WILL BE SERVED AND ALL THAT, ESPECIALLY OUTDOORS. EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK DOES NOT APPRISE ME OF MY ENJOYMENT AND QUIET, ESPECIALLY THE WEEKENDS.

THANK YOU. >> ANYONE IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT

ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6? >> HOLD ON ONE MOMENT.

MA'AM, ARE YOU COMING? >> MY NAME IS DON EVERLY AND I LIVE AT 2375 STATE ROUTE 13 NEXT TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AS WELL. THERE IS A REASON WHY THIS WAS DENIED AND WE ARE HERE FOR APPEAL.

IT WASN'T JUST A SIMPLE IS THE PROPERTY ITSELF OR THE RENTAL PROPERTY. IT WAS GENERAL EVERYTHING MERGED TOGETHER. AT A CERTAIN POINT IN THE BEGINNING, IT WAS THE RENTAL PROPERTY THAT WAS MY CONCERN ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHERS. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PICTURE HERE OF WHAT THIS ULTIMATELY IS GOING TO BRING TO OUR FRONT, BACK, AND SIDE YARDS. IT KEEPS BEING PUSHED FORWARD WITH ULTIMATELY IS THE PLAN HERE AND WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE BROADER ASPECT OF WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH AS A COMMUNITY.

THE NEIGHBORS TO THIS PROPERTY. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT TO MORE PERSPECTIVE, A LITTLE DEEPER, UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE COME FROM. WE DON'T WANT TO PUSH ANYTHING OR HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST THE OWNERS.

OUR INTENT IS TO HAVE OUR HOME, COMFORTABLE HOME WHERE WE CAN COME IN AND OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAYS PEACEFULLY WITHOUT

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INTERRUPTION, WITHOUT SEEING ANYTHING THAT IS A HUGE CONCERN FOR US TO WORRY ABOUT WITH KIDS, PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOING THEIR WALKS, BIKE RIDES. THIS IS SOMEWHERE WE HAVE IS OUR PLACE OF SOLITUDE THAT WE COME HOME TO, A PLACE WHERE WE GET OURSELVES OUT OF THAT BUSY RAT EVERY DAY.

WE COME HOME AND PUT OUR FEET UP IN OUR BACK PATIOS, FRONT PORCHES, AND WE DON'T HEAR A LOT OF NOISE.

AFTER 5:00, 6:00, WE DO NOT SEEK CARS COMING BACK AND FORTH.

OUR PROPERTIES ARE VERY DARK AT NIGHT.

WE DON'T HAVE LIGHTING ON THE UPPER PROPERTY SO IT'S PEACEFUL AND QUIET. WITH THIS VENUE COMING TO THIS AREA, I DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT PLACE FOR IT.

IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I HAVE MET WITH THE CORVETTES AND WE DISCUSSED IT AND WE TALKED ABOUT OTHER OPTIONS THEY HAVE LOOKED AT. AS A WEDDING VENUE, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO FIT IN TO WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AS RESIDENTIAL. A LOT OF GOOD POINTS ON THINGS, BUT BREAKING IT DOWN IN A BIG IDEA AND LOOKING AT IT FROM A BROADER PERSPECTIVE, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK FROM WHAT WE CAN DO AS A COMMUNITY WHERE WE LIVE. AGAIN, WE WANT OUR PLACE -- WE MOVED TO THIS AREA AND WE HAVE A LITTLE LAND AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIVACY. EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWS EVERYBODY ARE RELATIVELY. WE WON'T THIS TO BE QUIET.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> BJ, ST. AUGUSTINE.

PCB VOTED NO 5-0. A LOT OF PEOPLE TRY TO GET YOU TO CHANGE THAT DECISION WHICH YOU CAN DO. THERE'S A REASON.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS YOU LOOK AT THIS, LOOKED AT THAT PICTURE? THEN YOU ARE GOING TO PUT A BUSINESS RIGHT THERE? WEDDING IS A BUSINESS.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SERVE ALCOHOL? THERE WILL BE ALCOHOL THERE SOME WAY.

IT MAY BE BROUGHT IN. THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE, THIS IS WHAT I LIKE. THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE APPEARED TALKING ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT. IF THIS GOES THROUGH AND YOU LET THEM DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, A PERSON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE HAVING TO CALL PRIDE, PUT YOUR NAME OUT THERE AND HAVE EVERYBODY ANGRY WITH YOU THAT'S CONNECTED WITH THIS BUSINESS, ARE THESE OWNERS GOING TO LIVE THERE? THAT'S MY QUESTION. IF THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE THERE AND BE OVERSIGHT FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THEIR PROPERTY SO THE RESIDENCE WHO COME HOME TO A QUIET LITTLE AREA ONE HAVE TO LISTEN TO WHAT'S GOING ON AT A BUSINESS.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE SHORT- TERM RENTAL AND I DON'T KNOW THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THAT'S NOT GOOD AND WE KNOW THAT. IT'S A RIGHT PLACE AND WRONG PLACE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WAS PRESENTED, IT'S A WRONG PLACE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE FACTS OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

IF ONE GENTLEMAN SAT DOWN WITH THE MAN-MADE SUGGESTIONS, THEY OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T LIKE THE SUGGESTIONS.

WOULD YOU LIKE WAS NEXT DOOR TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? THAT'S MY QUESTION AND THE ANSWER WOULD PROBABLY BE NO.

THANK YOU. >> CHARLIE HUNT.

MILL CREEK ESTATES. THIS IS A CONCERN ABOUT TAKING AND PUTTING A BIG ESTABLISHMENT IN THE MIDST OF A NICE, QUIET COMMUNITY WHICH THOSE ARE BECOMING FAR AND FEW BETWEEN THEMSELVES, HAVING A NICE QUIET COMMUNITY WITH HARDLY ANY STREETLIGHTS LIKE THE COMMUNITY I LIVE IN, MILL CREEK ESTATES WHERE YOU HEAR THE WOLVES AND LIONS COME UP.

WITH A STRUCTURE LIKE THIS TO INCREASE IT, MAKE IT LARGER, HOW MUCH POWER WILL HAVE TO BE SET UP TO RUN THIS PLACE? DOESN'T MEAN IT WILL HAVE TO BE DUG IN? DOES THAT MEAN THE LOCALS WILL HAVE TO BE PUT ON THE COUNTY UTILITIES? BECAUSE OF THIS PLACE RUNS OFF COUNTY UTILITIES, THE COUNTY WILL BE LIKE, WE CAN START RUBBING THESE PEOPLE IN. SAME FOR SEPTIC.

IF THERE'S A BIG STRUCTURE LIKE THAT AND SEPTIC, WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE? THE COUNTY? BECAUSE IS LOCATED NEAR STATE ROUTE 13.

THERE ARE THE ESTABLISHMENTS UP AND DOWN 13, WILL THEY TIE INTO THE COUNTY'S UTILITIES AND THAT'S WHERE THE BALL STARTS TO

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ROLL, RIGHT THERE FOR THE COUNTY.

IF WE PUT IT HERE, THEN WE CAN MAKE THESE OTHER ONES, THE LOCAL ONES IN THE AREA ONTO IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE IT DONE LIKE THAT. YES, IT HAS, MANY TIMES IN MILL CREEK ESTATES. IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE FIGHTING THIS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE WANT TO LIVE.

DO I REALLY LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE, NO, MINDFULNESS PLAY KING OF THE MOUNTAIN ON THAT THING OVER THERE, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT. I KNOW THAT.

WANTS THE COUNTY LAYS UTILITIES IN, THAT'S WHEN ALL WILL CHANGE.

TO HAVE VENUES LIKE THAT THAT MAY BE UP TILL 11:00, THEY CAN CLOSE IT, BUT THEY HAVE TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON.

OKAY? THAT BRINGS IMMENSE AMOUNT OF LIGHT. LIKE THE FACILITY THAT CAME UP ON SILO ROAD. THE AMOUNT OF LIGHTS AND UTILITIES BROUGHT IN, IT DECIMATED THE PLACE OF WHERE IT IS AT, AND PEOPLE COME IN THAT AREA JUST TO GET AWAY FROM THE OVERBUILT NEIGHBORHOODS. OKAY? YES, THIS IS ONE THAT'S GOING TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE AND IT'S HARD TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

JUDY SPIEGEL, GREEN WILLOW LANE. I HESITATED TO COME UP BUT I THOUGHT HAVING BEEN ON THE FIVE PANEL BOARD AT THE PCA THAT DENIED THIS PROJECT, THE MAYBE I COULD BRING UP A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE NOT IN THIS PRESENTATION, THAT WERE BEFORE SM PCA AND MAYBE THEY CAN ADDRESS THE ISSUE SO EVERYONE IS FULL UNDERSTANDING. THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY.

I THINK IT WOULD BE LOVELY TO HAVE A WEDDING THERE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY NICE. THERE REALLY IS LITTLE SCREENING BETWEEN SOME OF THE HOUSES THAT ARE CLOSE BY.

THE CONCERNS, A WEDDING WILL HAVE ALCOHOL, PROBABLY NOT A LIQUOR LICENSE FOR THE PEOPLE ON THE VENUE BUT THE PEOPLE PROVIDING THE SERVICE PROBABLY WILL BRING ALCOHOL, OR THE CATERERS. MY HUSBAND IS SAYING LIABILITY.

WE HAD THE SIGN UP AT THE DAY CARE THAT WAS NOT MENTION BUY THE CORBITTS . THERE WILL BE A DAY CARE RUNNING FIVE DAYS A WEEK. THEY HAVE A SHARED PARKING LOT AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE ATTENDING THESE EVENTS.

THAT WAS A CONCERN. AS FAR AS MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION BASED ON THAT ONE HOUSE, THAT WAS NOT A FACTOR.

WE LOOKED AT THE PLANT BEFORE WE KNOW ABOUT THAT HAS.

AT LEAST AS FAR AS ME. I CANNOT SPEAK TO THE OTHER MEMBERS. THE CONCERNS FOR QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THE NEIGHBORS, I THINK THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY. IT'S A GREAT IDEA BUT IT CONCERNS ME. IF YOU LIVE NEXT TO A BALLPARK, AT LEAST YOU KNOW THE GAME WILL BE ON THIS DAY AND THIS TIME.

YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHEN THERE MIGHT BE A LOT THING OR QUIET THING. THE CHILDREN, THERE WILL BE A A DAY CARE, UP TO 100 CHILDREN AND UP TO 300 PEOPLE FOR THESE EVENTS. I THINK IT'S RISKY.

THAT'S MY OPINION. THAT IS WHAT WAS BEHIND MY DENIAL OF THIS. THEY NEEDED TO TALK TO THEIR NEIGHBORS AND GET THE SUPPORT OF THE NEIGHBORS.

WE ARE A COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE TO LIVE TOGETHER AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WILL WORK. MAYBE THEY HAVE DONE THAT AND MAYBE THEY CAN ADDRESS THAT IN THEIR REBUTTAL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> ANYONE IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6? SEEING MEN.

WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME BACK?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO BRING MIKE UP HERE TOO? PUT THE SITE PLAN BACKUP.. WE HAD A GOOD SITDOWN MEETING WITH EACH OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT SHOWED AN EXPRESS CONCERN.

THE DAY CARE BUILDING, THAT'S PROBABLY NO LONGER GOING THROUGH BUT IT IS ALLOWED BY WAY BECAUSE OF THE DESIGNATION.

>> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MIKE AND I ADDRESS

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THIS -- JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

IT'S BEEN A LENGTHY DAY AND I APOLOGIZE.

I WANT TO GET THESE ON THE RECORD.

THE PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY USED AS A PRIVATE SCHOOL.

ST. JOHNS GRAMMAR SCHOOL HAD OVER 100 STUDENTS AT CERTAIN POINTS OF TIME. THAT'S A PRETTY LARGE TRIP COMING IN AND OUT OF THOSE DRIVEWAYS.

PROBABLY MORE THAN WHAT YOU SEE ON THE WEEKEND OR EVENING FOR A PROCESSION SUCH AS A WEDDING OR ANY OTHER FUNCTION THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED HERE. AS FAR AS UTILITIES, THEY ARE ALL IN PLACE. THEY ARE NOT TEARING ANYTHING UP TO PUT POWER TO THE PROPERTY.

IF THEY WERE T TO TAKE RESERVATION BEE, 18 OR 19 HOMES, THERE WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY. YOU WILL NOTICE ON THE DATE THAT THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY FROM A POTENTIAL DEVELOPER AND ELECTED NOT TO GO FORWARD WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BUT TO KEEP THE INSTITUTIONAL TYPE USE THERE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS WHICH IS A ROADWAY AND ACCORDING TO YOUR PLAN, AND I WANT TO POINT OUT Ú THERE'S CAPACITY ON THE ROADWAY IT'S NOT A TROUBLED ROADWAY. THERE ARE FIVE OTHER INSTITUTIONAL USES. FOUR CHURCHES IN ONE SCHOOL UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR. ALL OF THOSE USES ARE CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS BUT ALL THOSE USES CAN CONDUCT THE SAME ACTIVITIES. YOU CAN HAVE WEDDINGS.

EASTER EGG HUNTS. ICE CREAM SOCIALS.

THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THIS PROPERTY.

IT'S NOT PART OF THE CHURCH SYSTEM ARE PART OF A SPECIFIC FAITH BASED SYSTEM BUT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO REALLY VIEW THE PROPERTY AND ENJOY ITS.

FOR THOSE WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE PROPERTY, I THINK YOU COULD SEE THAT. TO COMMUNE WITH NATURE AND HAVE EVENTS AND FAMILY TIMES TOGETHER.

NET EVERYONE WILL BE A WEDDING FESTIVAL OR LARGE BANDS OR ANYTHING, WHILE THERE MAY BE SOME, THEY ARE INTENDED TO BE CONDUCTED INDOORS. I WANTED TO SHARE THAT IN REGARD TO THE COMMENTS WE HEARD ABOUT NOISE.

THE APPLICANTS WILL IMPOSE UPON HIMSELF A NOISE LEVEL REDUCTION STANDARD DONE WITH BUILDINGS NEAR AIRPORTS. BY DOING THIS, THEY WILL ACHIEVE A NOISE LEVEL REDUCTION OF 25 DECIBELS IN THE BUILDING. ANYTHING WITHIN THE BUILDING WOULD BE REDUCED BY 25 DECIMALS LEAVING THE BUILDING.

I HAVE BEEN TRACKING THE SOUNDS DURING THE DAY.

AS I AM SPEAKING, WE ARE HITTING 60 OR 70 DECIBELS.

WHEN ANOTHER SPEAKER SPOKE, WENT UP TO 103 DECIBELS.

THAT'S THE SAME DECIBEL LEVEL IS A BAN.

IT WAS CONDUCTED WITHIN THE BUILDING.

THE POINT IS TO SAY NOISE CAN BE ACCOMMODATED.

THEY INTEND TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY. THEY HAVEN'T EVEN HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THE GRANT THEY WERE GIVEN THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS. WHEN YOU ARE NEW TO THIS AND DO NOT DO DEVELOPMENT FOR A LIVING, IT'S DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE GRANT OF A SPECIAL USE IS NOT A PERMIT OPEN THE DOORS TOMORROW. YOU ONLY START THE PROCESS.

YOU BEGIN A LENGTHY REVIEW FOR OCCUPANCY.

HOW MANY CAN BE IN EACH ROOM AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE INSTALLED? THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THAT IN GOOD FAITH BUT DID NOT UNDERSTAND THEY HAD TO HAVE PLANS INTO THE COUNTY PRIOR TO THE ONE YEAR EXPIRATION, WHICH IS WHY THEY ASKED FOR THE TWO YEARS IN THIS APPLICATION. AS TO THE COMMENTS OF MS. SPIEGEL, I REMIND AS A PLANNING COMMISSION ARE THAT THE OPINIONS OF THE NEIGHBORS OR MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS IS NOT A QUASI-CRITERIA OF THE APPLICATION.

AS FAR AS THAT GOES, I REMIND HER THEY ARE NOT COMPELLED TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS ALTHOUGH THEY DID AND SPOKE WITH A MAN TRIED TO SHARE INFORMATION.

THEY WERE UNABLE TO CONVINCE THEM NOT TO OPPOSE THE PROJECT.

HOWEVER, THE EXISTENCE OF OPPOSITION FROM THOSE NEIGHBORS DOES NOT GRANT YOU THE ABILITY TO DENY THIS, BUT THE CRITERIA OF THE APPLICABLE CODES NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED.

I WOULD ASK THAT I BE ALLOWED TO GO THROUGH THOSE BRIEFLY AND CLOSE, MADAM CHAIR. THE FIRST CRITERIA IS THE USE BEING SIMILAR TO OTHER PERMITTED USES ALONG THIS ARTERIAL CORRIDOR. BY FACILITIES WHICH I STATED WOULD NOT POSE A DETRIMENT TO THE PUBLIC GOOD NORM.

THE PURPOSE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THEY USE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC GOOD AND SUPPORT THE PLAN.

THEY USE LIKE OTHER INSTITUTIONAL USES IS COMPATIBLE WITH AND CONTIGUOUS TO THE CONTIGUOUS USES IN

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SURROUNDING AREA. THEY WOULD NOT IMPOSE EXCESSIVE BURDEN OR HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON ADJACENT USES.

AND NEVER TO PROVIDE CERTAINTY TO THE BOARD IN THIS, THE APPLICANTS HAVE INCLUDED THESE CONDITIONS THAT WE SPOKE OF EARLIER, LIMITING THE HOURS OF FROM 8:00 UNTIL 10:00 AND GUESS OF THE PROPERTY BY 11:00 P.M. MAXIMUM GAS SHALL NOT EXCEED 300 PEOPLE AND ON-SITE STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE DURING THE OPERATIONS. IT'S NOT AS THOUGH THEY ARE FREE TO RUN THE PROPERTY. THERE WILL BE PEOPLE TO WATCH THEM. THE USE OF THIS MLR CONSTRUCTION STANDARD, IT'S A INSENSITIVE STANDER BUT PROVIDES ASSURANCES THAT THE NOISE IS NOT LEAVING THE BUILDING. THE PROPOSED USE HAS BEEN DEEMED BY THE COUNTY TO BE SPECIAL USE AND WOULD COMPLY WITH THE REQUIRED STANDARDS OF ARTICLE 2. IT'S COMPLIANT WITH PART 2301 AND ARTICLE 12 OF THE LDC TEAM SPECIAL USE BY THE STAFFING COUNTY RESPECTED PEOPLE.

THE REQUEST IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH THE FLUME DESIGNATION WHICH -- INTENSIVE USES THAN THOSE ALLOWED HERE.

THIS USE WOULD GENERALLY NOT BE APPROPRIATE WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS IN THE ZONING DISTRICT BUT BEING PROPERLY CONDITIONED AS PROPOSED PERMITS THE WELFARE, MORALS, ORDER, CONVENIENCE OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA AND COMMUNITY.

I THINK YOU SAW THAT IN THE EMAILS.

THERE ARE GROUPS LOOKING TO USE FACILITIES LIKE THIS FOR GATHERINGS. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS, BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE WILLING TO DO AND THE FACT THEY WILL BE SCREENING AND PROVIDING BLOCKING ABUSE FROM THE PROPERTY LINES AND OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS ADDITIONAL SCREENING OF THOSE THINGS.

THE REQUEST TO USE IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AS STATED EARLIER. AS NOTED THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION, THE PROPOSED USE IS SIMILAR TO OTHER INSTITUTIONAL USES ALONG THIS ARTERIAL CORRIDOR.

BUT THAT I WILL NOT BELABOR THE POINT.

I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE ONE OTHER ITEM AS TO THE ISSUES OF CONCERN FOR NOISE. CAN WE GET THE OVERHEAD ON THAT? THE APPLICANTS WENT AND SAW THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR ANY COMPLAINTS ON THE RENTAL PROPERTY WHICH IS NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION. THEY WOULD NOT HAVE PURCHASED THAT IT WANTS THE REQUEST OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SAYING WE HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE BACK. THEY ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY FOR THE USE. WHEN YOU SPENT THAT MONEY TO BUY ANOTHER HOUSE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, YOU'VE GOT TO FIND SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT AND THEY ARE USING IT AS AN AIRBNB WHICH WILL CONTINUE AND WHAT I MIGHT POINT OUT IS A PERMITTED USE NOT REQUIRING OTHER APPROVALS.

WE WILL STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS OR OTHER COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> THANK YOU. IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE HEARD. THE AIRBNB, THE HOME, THE POOL THAT'S OVER THE FENCE LINE, CAN THEY RENT THAT AT SEVEN DAYS A

WEEK RIGHT NOW? >> YES.

>> OKAY. MR. DIAMOND, I AM HEARING YOUR CONCERN AND CONSIDERING IT AND GIVING IT SERIOUS CONSIDERATION AS I AM LISTENING TO THAT REAL- TIME.

IT'S A USE THEY CAN RENT AT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE FRAT GUYS HAVING A KEG PARTY OR A SWEET COUPLE WHO WANTS TO LOOK AT THE BEAUTIFUL OAK TREE'S. I THINK IT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN CONSIDER WHEN THINKING ABOUT THIS APPLICATION. WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT AND IT'S TO THE APPLICANT IS THE NOISE AND THE HOURS THAT YOU WOULD BE PERMITTED TO HAVE NOISE.

WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO LIMIT THE HOURS OF AMPLIFIED SOUND ON THE PROPERTY LET'S SAY STOP IT AT 9:00 P.M.

AND SHUT OPERATIONS AT 10:00 P.M.

THEN WE AREN'T GETTING SO LATE INTO THE NIGHT.

SOME OF THESE FOLKS DON'T WANT NOISE BLEEDING ONTO THEIR PROPERTY UNTIL CLOSE TO MIDNIGHT.

IF YOU SHUT DOWN HOURS AROUND 10:00, YOU CAN START TO GET EVERYONE OF THE PROPERTY. MAYBE THAT CONDITION COULD BE

HELPFUL. >> OUTSIDE MUSIC?

>> ANY AMPLIFIED MUSIC ON THE PROPERTY WOULD HAVE TO CEASE AT 9:00 IT AND OPERATION HAVE TO STOP AT 10:00.

I AM TRYING TO BACK YOU UP AN HOUR.

UNDERSTANDING THE DYNAMICS OF WEDDING VENUES BUT IT'S A UNIQUE SPACE. IT'S A QUIET SPACE AND THAT'S WHY IT'S ATTRACTIVE BUT THAT WANTS LIMITING THE HOURS OF

OPERATION. >> WE ARE OPEN TO DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. ABSOLUTELY.

>> MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION FOR MIKE HERZBERG.

THE NOISE LEVEL REDUCTION WALL THAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING WILL BE CONSTRUCTED, IS THAT GOING TO BE ON -- GO FURTHER IN

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EXPLAINING THAT. WILL THAT BE THE ENTIRE BUILDING? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SO I

UNDERSTAND? >> THE NLR WOULD BE ON THE BUILDING THAT WOULD BE USED AS THE INDOOR EVENT SPACE.

IT'S NOT A WALL BUT THE CONSTRUCTION STYLE OF THE BUILDING. IF YOU WALK THE PROPERTY, THE BUILDING HAS FALLEN INTO DISREPAIR THAT IS NOT OCCUPIED.

IT WOULD BE DEMOED AND PLACED IN THE SAME LOCATION THAT IT IS IN THE PROPERTY BUT RECONSTRUCTED UTILIZING THE NLR STANDARD. IT'S A STANDARD USED NEAR AIRPORTS, REQUIRED BY MUNICIPALITIES FOR AIR FLIGHT OVERFLIGHT TRAFFIC EFFECTIVELY COMMAS MORE THAN INSULATION.

IT'S INSULATION, DIFFERENT WALL STRUCTURES AND SECTIONS AND IT WILL KEEP THE NOISE FROM LEAVING THE BUILDING.

IN THIS BUILDING, WHILE WE HIT 103 DECIBELS TODAY, IT DID NOT GET OUT THE DOOR. A SMALLER BUILDING CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, THE IMPLEMENTATION WE KEEP THE NOISE FROM BEING OF THE PROPERTY WHICH I THINK SHE WAS BENT ON HER HEELS ABOUT THE TIMING.

IF THE CONDITION WERE TO BE PLACED ON OUTSIDE AMPLIFIED MUSIC OF 9:00, THANK IT WORKS FOR THEM WELL.

I THINK THE WITNESS TO CONTINUE THE 10:00 P.M.

FOR THE INDOOR. THE MLR STANDARD REDUCING THAT ASSURES THE NOISE WILL NOT LEAVE THE BUILDING.

I HAVE SENT STUDIES I CAN SHOW THAT WOULD DEMONSTRATE THE SOUND WILL NOT COVER 147 DECIBELS -- I'M SORRY, 140 FEET WHICH IS THE DISTANCE TO THE NEAREST PROPERTY.

REDUCTION OF THE NOISE BY THE TIME HE GOT TO THE PROPERTY, HE WOULD LOOK AT A NOISE LEVEL CLOSER TO 55 OR 40 DECIBELS.

THE OVERHEAD BRIEFLY. AS YOU CAN SEE ON HERE, THE DECIBEL LEVEL SHOWN THERE, 100 DECIBELS, LET'S SAY 100 DECIBELS, WITH A SCHOOL DANCE OR THE BAND -TYPE SOUND.

25 ACCIDENT A 75 SO YOU'RE DOWN TO AN AVERAGE RADIO. BY THE TIME THE NOISE GOES FROM THE OUTSIDE WALL, 147 FEET THROUGH THE VEGETATION THAT EXISTS FOR SOME OF THE OTHER OWNERS, FURTHER, ALMOST 400 FEET. THE NOISE IS REDUCING AT A RATE, DOWN TO A POINT OF 60 OR 55 DECIBELS.

THE AVERAGE NOISE INSIDE A HOME IS 40 DECIBELS.

BEFORE YOU CAME IN, THE NOISE LEVEL HERE WAS 55 DECIBELS.

EVEN A SILENT ROOM IS ABOUT 50 DECIBELS SITTING HERE WITH NO

NOISE. >> THE AIRBNB, WE HAVE PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED WITH RULES IN PLACE, EXTENSION FINES FOR PARTYING FOR THAT STUFF, UNDER A PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT WE WORK WITH DAY BY DAY WITH THEM.

>> AND ALL THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS STILL APPLIED.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THAT HIS CURRENT.

>> YES. WE SPOKE WITH THE NEIGHBORS -- AND AGREED TO PUT UP FENCES AND NATURAL BARRIERS IN BETWEEN WHERE THE NOISE WILL BE. SAID WE WOULD WORK IN ANY WAY WE CAN TO MAKE IT AS PLEASANT AS WE CAN NOT HAVE TOO MUCH

NOISE GETTING INTO -- >> CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? I'M TRYING TO FORMULATE A PLAN. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING SPECIFICS WHEN YOU SAY YOU ARE PREPARED TO BUILD A

BEFORE. >> WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT MR. LEWIS IS PUTTING OFFENSE ON THE EDGE OF THE VEGETATION LINE CLOSEST TO THE EVENT TALL. THE FENCE ALONG THERE.

PROPOSING AND 8 FOOT FENCE. A BARRIER OF VEGETATION WHETHER BAMBOO, SOMETHING ABOUT THE FENCE LINE AND TRY TO BLOCK AS MUCH NOISE THROUGH THERE. THE FENCE WILL BLOCK MORE NOISE THAN -- FOR MR. DIAMOND, FOR HIS PROPERTY COMES THROUGH, WE TALKED TO HIM THE FENCE BETWEEN HIS PROPERTY AND HOURS THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF NOT ONLY PRIVACY FOR HIM BUT REDUCE THE NOISE DRASTICALLY RIGHT THERE.

WE SPOKE WITH HIM ABOUT PUTTING A NATURAL BARRIER BEHIND HIS PANTS. THE PICTURE OF THE RENTAL HOUSE SO HE CAN WHOLE PROPERTY AS A WHOLE. PUTTING UP BAMBOO AND KEEPING IT HOW IT IS. IT'S LIKE OLD FLORIDA.

IT IS GORGEOUS. THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE COMMUNITY PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND PRESERVE

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THAT PROPERTY. >> I HEARD MIKE HERZBERG TALK ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION. IT'S NOT GOING TO GET EVERYTHING YOU WANT BUT IT WOULD MEAN A LOT TO ME AND TO SOME OF YOUR NEIGHBORS TO BACK THE HOURS OF BY ONE HOUR, EVEN IF IT MEANS STOPPING THE MUSIC AT 9:00 AT NIGHT, 10:00 AT NIGHT. WOULD YOU BE AGREEABLE TO THAT TODAY? THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME.

THAT WAS A LONG LINE OF QUESTIONING.

IT'S COMPLICATED. IT'S NOT AN EASY DECISION FOR ME. THANK YOU.

>> I'M HAVING A COMPATIBILITY ISSUE.

WHEN I SPOKE TO YOU TO CHECK WITH THE YARDS BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF SAWGRASS AND THEY HAD SOUND ISSUES.

THEY READJUSTED THE WAY THEY DID BUSINESS.

NOW THEY ARE FANTASTIC NEIGHBORS.

CITED FOR CHURCHES AND ONE SCHOOL BUT THEY DO NOT USE ALCOHOL ALL THE TIME. EASTER ICONS DOESN'T HAVE ALCOHOL. THE OTHER PROBLEM IS I FEEL YOU ARE EXPERIENCING IN DEVELOPMENT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU WILL FOLLOW THROUGH WITH. I AM WORRIED THAT DURING THE WEEK MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, YOU HAVE LATE HOURS.

IF YOU HAD ONLY DAYTIME ACTIVITIES MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND MAYBE THE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY AND IS COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST SAID 9:00 AND MAYBE YOU ARE OUT THERE FOR ONE YEAR TO SEE HOW IT GOES.

IF YOU CAN'T DO IT FOR ONE YEAR, YOU DON'T HAVE A PERMIT.

I'M THROWING THAT OUT, BUT I FEEL RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> MAY WE REPLY? WITH ALL DUE RESPECT WE SPOKE WITH THE -- I SPOKE WITH SOME PEOPLE AT THE YARDS PROPERTY AND THEY DID USE IT CONSTRUCTION STANDARD SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE IMPOSING TO ACHIEVE THAT REDUCTION OF NOISE.

AS TO THE OTHER USES, CHURCHES ARE NOT REGULATED FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SO THE CHURCH CAN HAVE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AT A WEDDING OR OUTDOOR EVENT THEY WISH.

MY MOTHER WAS CATHOLIC AND I WENT TO MANY EVENTS WERE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES WERE SERVED.

AS FAR AS THE, THESE USES HAVE THAT AS A MATTER OF RIGHT.

THEY ARE CONSIDERED SUBORDINATE AND INCIDENTAL TO THE OPERATION OF INSTITUTIONAL USE AND CAN BE CONDUCTED.

I THINK THEY ARE ALLOWING TO REDUCE THE HOURS TO THE 9:00 P.M. FOR THE AMPLIFIED MUSIC AND I THINK THEY AGREED. I THINK THAT IS ACHIEVE ANY ALLOWANCE FOR WHAT SOMEONE CAN REASONABLY EXPECT OF REASONABLE QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THE PROPERTY. IS TO THE OTHER USES.

UNLESS THERE WERE COMPLAINTS AGAINST THE SCHOOLS OR CHURCHES FOR HAVING EVENTS OR ACTIVITIES THEY DO, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD OTHERWISE RELATE TO THE CRITERIA FOR REVIEW.

THANK YOU. >> I MEAN AFTER 9:00 WHEN THE PEOPLE ARE THAT OUT, THEY HAVE BEEN DRINKING AND THEY WILL GO DOWN THE ROAD. THEY WILL BE LOUD.

IT'S A LOT FOR MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, ESPECIALLY, IF PEOPLE ARE HEARING THAT EVERY NIGHT AND NOT GETTING ANY PEACE.

I UNDERSTAND AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND THEY PULLED BACK ON THE DAYS OF THE WEEK. NOTHING US BUT THAT WAS TRYING

TO THROW OUT. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS EVIDENCE 2.2 THERE. SOME MAY BUT I CAN DO THAT WHEN I LEAVE MY HOUSE EVERY DAY. THE RENTERS CAN DO THAT.

THEY ARE BOUND BY THE REGULATIONS AS TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND THEY ARE REASSURING PEOPLE WILL BE OFF THE PROPERTY BY 11:00. I GO BACK TO THE CRITERIA OF

WE'RE DOING IS E- >> WHAT'S THE CRITERIA FOR THE

NOISE ORDINANCE? >> THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS

APPLICABLE. >> WHAT IS THAT?

>> LOCAL NOISE ORDINANCE? >> IT'S --

>> DOES A CHECK DECIBELS OR SOUND HEARING?

>> IT'S A DECIBEL RIDDICK. >> NO IT'S NOT.

I'M TRYING TO CHANGE THE NOISE ORDINANCE'S SO MAYBE YOU CAN

HELP ME. >> YOU DO IT DECIBEL RATING.

I'VE DONE IT FOR YEARS. I'VE BEEN A PARTY TO THIS PROJECTS AND NETWORK. THE ISSUE IS WE CANNOT ASSUME THEY WILL BREAK THE LAW AND EVERYONE WILL WOO HOO OUT OF THE PARKING LOT . THE FACTS AND EVIDENCE DEMONSTRATE THEY WOULD BE COMPLIANT AND WOULD OTHERWISE MEET THE CRITERIA.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONERS?

>> I'VE BEEN TO THE PROPERTY. I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS A SCHOOL.

IT IS ABSOLUTELY DUTIFUL AND I LOVED THE IDEAS YOU GUYS

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PRESENTED WITH KEEPING THE BUILDINGS AND KEEPING THE NATURAL BEAUTY OF IT. ALSO, I THINK IT'S WEIGHING HEAVILY ON ME IS THE HISTORY OF THIS.

YOU PURCHASED THIS AFTER HAVING BEEN GRANTED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT BY THE COUNTY AND PURCHASED A SECOND HOME AS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS BASED ON WHAT WE REQUIRE.

IS THAT CORRECT? >>

>> AND MISSED THE DEADLINE BY A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> I UNDERSTAND THE COVID.

WE HAVE DEAR FRIENDS TRYING TO OPEN A BUSINESS DURING COVID AND IT WAS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET ANYTHING DONE.

I WOULD BE INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS.

IF YOU WOULD AGREE TO PERHAPS, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST 'S CONDITION OF BACKING THE TIME OF THE MUSIC UP AN HOUR.

I SEE IT BEING AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY AND BEING ABLE TO USED FOR FARMERS MARKET AND SUMMER CAMPS.

USE OF A DAY CARE MAY BE OFF THE TABLE.

>> DAY CARE WAS -- >> BY RIGHT.

>> THAT'S A BACK BURNER. >> I UNDERSTAND.

AGAIN IF YOU REDUCE THE OUR THEN I AM INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS, BASED ON THE HISTORY AND YOU WANTING TO KEEP THAT PROPERTY THE WAY IT IS WHICH IS NATURAL AND BEAUTIFUL.

THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>> I WILL PREPARE TO MAKE A MOTION.

I'M DOING MENTAL JUJITSU. CAN SOMEONE FROM GROWTH MANAGEMENT HELP ME OUT? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM. PLEASE.

I AM ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THEY DO ALL OF THESE THINGS.

HOW WILL WE ENFORCE BACK? I WANT TO GO OUT AS THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THE CONDITIONS I WILL ASK THEM TO ADHERE TO?

>> FOR THE RECORD. SING JONES COUNTY PLANNER.

WE WOULD PUT THAT IN THE QUARTER AND WE NEED TO BE SPECIFIC. IF YOU WANT A FENCE OR PUFFERY.

I BROUGHT THE MAP SO WE COULD BE SPECIFIC IF YOU WANT TO ADD FENCES. IF YOU WANT TO ADD BUFFERING.

ANY BUILDINGS THEY HAVE THE NLR, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS.

WHICHEVER BUILDINGS WILL REQUIRE CONSTRUCTION TO THE BUILDING, WE NEED TO SET THAT ON THE RECORD SO I CAN PUT IT IN ORDER SO WHEN WE SIGN IT, IT'S SPECIFIC SO WE DON'T GUESS LATER WHAT WE WERE DECIDING ON TODAY.

>> THAT'S WHY I CALLED YOU WHAT.

FOR EXACTLY THAT. >> SPECIFIC ON DAYS OF THE

WEEKEND HOURS. >> I WOULD LIKE THEM TO LIMIT THE HOURS AND I WOULD LIKE MIKE HERZBERG IF HE COULD COME TO THE MAP AND SHOW HER THE NLR CONSTRUCTION WILL TAKE PLACE SO WE CAN BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT DIRECTION IS.

>> THIS IS THE SITE, THE BUILDING.

>> THIS BUILDING RIGHT HERE. THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S NEEDS TO BE REBUILT. IN ORDER TO HOLD PEOPLE.

>> THAT'S WHERE THE AMPLIFIED MUSIC WOULD BE CONTAINED TO?

MR. LEWIS? >> RIGHT HERE.

IT'S HARD TO SEE THE HOUSES ON HERE.

HOUSES IN YOUR. WE TALKED ABOUT FENCING THIS SPOT. THE BACK CORNER OF THE PROPERTY. MR. DIAMOND RIGHT ALONG THIS SECTION. IT LOOKS LIKE THE PROPERTY LINE IS THERE.

>> THE SAME FENCE AND VEGETATIVE BUFFER?

THE SAME THING FOR MR. DIAMOND? >> THE VEGETATIVE BUFFER FOR MR. DIAMOND WOULD BE ON THIS BACK LINE SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THE THAT WOULD BE VEGETATION. HIS FUNDS THERE.

THERE IS A TON OF BAMBOO AND HEAVY VEGETATION.

THERE WILL BE

RIGHT IN HERE -- >> FOR PRIVACY AS WELL.

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>> THIS WOULD BE THE

. >> MS. RANDOLPH?

>> CAN WE GET SPECIFIC ON THE FENCE TYPE?

>> EIGHT-FOOT CALLED AND TALKED TO -- WE WERE TOLD THERE IS NOTHING SET IN

STONE. >> REGULATIONS ON FENCING.

>> BETWEEN SIX OR EIGHT FOOT? >> WE TALKED TO A COUPLE.

>> THEY SAID -- THEY SAID WE CAN PUT ANYTHING IN WRITING.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION, MADAM CHAIR, IF WE COULD. COULD WE TABLE THIS FOR A MOMENT AND HEAR THE NEXT ITEM THEN YOU CAN GET WITH SELENA AND FIGURE WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO. SOMETHING WE CAN AGREE TO ON THE RECORD AND COME BACK AFTER THE NEXT ITEM AND VOTE ON WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING. MR. ROBERTSON?

>> IF I MAY, FOR THE RECORD, YOU ASKED ABOUT ENFORCEMENT AS

WELL. >> YES.

>> ENFORCEMENT, WHATEVER IS DECIDED HERE SO THOSE WHO LIVE NEARBY SO THEY UNDERSTAND. SPECIAL USE PERMITS HAVE ORDERS IF THEY DON'T ABIDE BY IN ORDER AND THE CONDITIONS SET IN THERE, WE CAN REVOKE THE PERMIT . THAT'S IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. HOW IT COMES ABOUT.

IT DEPENDS. IF THEY ARE DOING CONSTRUCTION, THAT WOULD BE DURING STAFF REVIEW.

IF NOT, VIA A COMPLAINT AND IF THERE IS A COMPLAINT, THEN WE INVESTIGATE AND ENSURE THEY ARE COMPLIANT.

[7. Public Hearing * NZVAR 2023-20, Alternate Bald Eagle Management Plan for the Shiprek Palm Valley properties located at 4485 , 4485B, 4485C and 449 5 Palm Valley Road for Bald Eagle nest SJ-38. Bald Eagle Nest SJ-38 is located on Tract A of the Plantation at Ponte Vedra Unit 5 that directly abuts the eastern portion of 4485B Palm Valley Road. This Bald Eagle nest ha s been confirmed active by St. Johns County since the 2007 nesting season. The properties proposed a s part of this request are currently 4 lots of record a s defined by Section 12 of the Land Development Code and therefore must adhere to Federal, U.S. Fish and Wildlife, regulations for the protection of the Bald Eagle. The federal regulations include a primary nest protection zone of 330' and a secondary nest protection zone of 660'. The applicant desires to reconfigure the lots and add an additional lot which would render them no longer lots of record and therefore the full provisions of Section 4.01.10 of the St. Johns County Land Development Code would apply to development of these properties. This would include a 750' primary nest protection zone and a 1500' secondary nest protection zone. The request for a non-zoning variance is in accordance with Section 4.10.10.C.4 of the St. Johns County Land Development Code which states an alternative site specific Bald Eagle Management Plan may be development for a Bald Eagle nest when changes to the provisions of Section 4.01.10 are requested, subject to approval by the Board of County Commissioners. The applicant ha s obtained an approved Incidental Take Permit (ITP) MBPER0032532 from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service for the construction no closer than 75 feet from the nest tree. ]

>> I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.

ARE WE OKAY HERE IF THEY -- PUT TOGETHER AND THEN WE AREN'T

CHOPPING IT UP ON THE FLOOR. >> THAT'S A GREAT IDEA AND MR.

TAYLOR WILL STEP BACK. >> THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.

>> SEE YOU SHORTLY. >>> THAT WILL TAKE US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7. ALSO EX PARTE COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>> I KNOW I MET HIM ON THE PROPERTY.

NUMBER 7? THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 2023, 11:33.

I ALSO MET HIM ON THE PROPERTY WHICH IS NOT ON HERE BUT I

CAN'T REMEMBER THE DATE. >> THANK YOU.

I DID A SITE VISIT WITH TRAVIS MINCH OCTOBER 11, 2023, 10:00 IN THE MORNING. WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND THEY GAVE ME THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO DO.

THEIR VISION. >> I HAD A SITE VISIT SEPTEMBER 27 AT 9:30 A.M. WITH TRAVIS MINCH AND THE APPLICANTS. WE DISCUSS THE PRIOR RESIDENCE, THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY, THE EAGLES NEST AND PROXIMITY TO SURROUNDING HOUSES. THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY WANTED

TO DO. >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST .

>> I DID A SITE VISIT WITH TRAVIS MINCH AND THE APPLICANT AND MATTHEWS DESIGN WAS ON SEPTEMBER 20 AT 3:00 P.M.

TOOK A TOUR OF PROPERTY. BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY AND TALKED ABOUT CONSTRUCTION AND THE REASONS WHY IT'S DIFFERENT FROM OTHER DEVELOPMENTS WE HAVE SEEN. I THINK ALL OF US GOT THIS EMAIL ON OPPOSING THIS AGENDA ITEM DROPPED ON THIS BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED THIS MORNING. WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL IN MY POSITION

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN . >> ON OCTOBER 18 LAST OCTOBER 18 , I HAD A SITE VISIT WITH TRAVIS MINCH AND THE LANDOWNER/APPLICANT . WALKED THE PROPERTY.

BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY. POINTED OUT THE BALD EAGLES NEST AND WE DISCUSSED THE POTENTIAL MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WAS UNDER REVIEW. ALSO DISCUSSED THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, DENSITY OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IF I RECALL WAS A LITTLE MORE DENSE THAN PROPOSED ON THE SITE

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, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. >> THANK YOU.

THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> MY NAME IS DORI SHIPLEY AND AM THE OWNER AND APPLICANT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

I HAVE BEEN VISITING THE YEAR AND SINCE THE EARLY 1980S WHEN MY FAMILY HAD MOVED HERE. THEN I MOVED TO MYSELF PERMANENTLY IN 2019. AS I TRANSITIONED INTO RETIREMENT FROM A CAREER IN PHYSICAL THERAPY, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AS AN INDIVIDUAL TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT 448534495 HOME VALLEY ROAD. I PURCHASE THE PROPERTY FROM THE FAMILY IN FEBRUARY OF 2021. IT'S A 5.7 ACRE PROPERTY THAT SERVED AS A FAMILY COMPOUND WITH FIVE SEPARATE PARCEL IDS.

ON THE PROPERTY WHERE FOUR COMES INCLUDING SEVERAL MOBILE HOMES AND STORAGE FACILITIES IN COMPLETE DISREPAIR.

I DID SEE THE POTENTIAL IN THE PROPERTY.

I ASSUMED WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS, THE PROPERTY COULD BE TRANSFORMED. KEEPING WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. AS A VOLUNTEER FOR THE AUDUBON ECO-WATCH PROGRAM MYSELF, I WAS EXCITED TO KNOW THERE WAS AN EAGLES NEST NEARBY IN THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.

MY GOAL WAS TO PRESERVE THE LARGE TEENS TREES, MAINTAIN LARGE LOTS WITH THE CONSIDERATION OF THE NEARBY EAGLES NEST. AND INITIATING THE CLEANUP OF THE PROPERTY, I NEEDED TO OBTAIN A BALD EAGLE INCIDENTAL PERMIT WHICH I SUBMITTED FOR AND WAS GIVEN APPROVAL IN JUNE 2022 FROM THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE.

I HEARD MATTHEWS DESIGN GROUP TO DESIGN A PLAN TO RECONFIGURE THE EXISTING FIVE PARCELS INTO FIVE ONE ACRE LOTS AS WELL AS A THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO CONNECT THE LOTS TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY WATER AND SEWER WITH THE INTENT OF CREATING A BEAUTIFUL, NATURAL ENVIRONMENT THAT WAS SUPPORTIVE TO THE EAGLES.

AS I CONTINUED THE PROCESS OF PERMITTING THROUGH THE COUNTY, IT BECAME CLEAR THAT I NEEDED MORE ASSISTANCE TO NAVIGATE THE COMPLEXITIES DESK COMPLEXITIES OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND ENLISTED THE HOUSE OF MY HELP OF MY FRIEND OF TRAVIS MINCH.

IS A REALTOR WITH A MASTERS DEGREE IN URBAN AND REGIONAL PLANNING WITH A SPECIALTY IN ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING.'S KNOWLEDGE HAS BEEN INVALUABLE TO ME.

I HAVE ASKED HIM TO EXPLAIN DETAILS REGARDING THE COMPLEXITIES THAT I FACED. YOU WILL SEE MY REQUEST FOR ALTERNATIVE BALD EAGLE MANAGEMENT PLAN PROTECTS A CONDITION FOR THE NESTING EAGLES.

WOULD LIKE TO RECONFIGURE THE LOT LINES ON THE PROPERTY TO BE DESIRABILITY LOCATED. BECAUSE THERE'S A BALD EAGLE NEST ON ADJACENT PROPERTY NEARBY, THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY CODE REQUIRES SHE PREPARE BALD EAGLE MANAGEMENT PLAN AND OBTAIN A WAIVER TO MOVE FORWARD. DORI IS NOT REQUESTING A REZONING OF FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE OR ADDITIONAL LAND DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS BEYOND WHAT WAS ENVISIONED IN THE COUNTY LAND USE PLAN. HER DESIRE IS TO IMPROVE THE PROPERTY TO ITS HIGHEST AND BEST USE WITHIN EXISTING ZONING LAWS WHILE ADHERING TO FAIR AND SENSIBLE ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS. THE WAIVER SHE IS REQUESTING IS PURSUANT TO SECTION 4.10 10 E OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

ALTHOUGH COUNTY STAFF ADMINISTERS THIS TYPE OF WAIVER IS A VARIANCE TO THE CODE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE PROCESS BEING FOLLOWED IS PROVIDED IN THE BALD EAGLE HABITAT MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE, RECOGNIZING THESE WAIVERS MAY BE NECESSARY. IN THIS PRESENTATION, WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW AND HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY.

IT WILL PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH IMPORTANT CONTEXT FOR THE EVALUATION OF HER WAIVER REQUEST IN THE BALD EAGLE MANAGEMENT PLAN. I WILL GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THE PUBLIC BENEFITS OF HER RECONFIGURATION AND PROVIDE THE STATUS OF PERMIT APPLICATIONS. I WILL SHARE THE IMPORTANT COMPONENTS OF THE BALD EAGLE MANAGEMENT PLAN.

THE PROPERTY CONTAINS A TOTAL OF 5.7 ACRES AND LOCATED OFF OF HOME VALLEY ROAD IN PONTE VEDRA BEACH.

IT IS 325 FEET OF ROADWAY FRONTAGE AND 762 FEET OF DEPTH.

AS SHOWN IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH PROVIDED FROM THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISAL WEBSITE, THE 5.7 ACRES ARE DESCRIBED IN FIVE PARCEL TAX IDS.

THE STAR INCLUDED ON THE PROPERTY SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE BALD EAGLE NEST.

IT'S ON THE PROPERTY -- IT'S ON PROPERTY OWNED BY THE

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PLANTATION COMMUNITY HOH. NOT ON DORI'S PROPERTY.

THIS IS A COPY OF THE SURVEY WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED IN FEBRUARY 2021. PRIOR TO HER PURCHASE, BELONG TO THE SAME FAMILY AND DEVELOPED INTO A FAMILY COMPOUND. IT CONTAINED FOUR RESIDENCES IN NINE ACCESSORY. FOR SEPTIC TANKS TWO SEPARATE ROADWAY ACCESS, A SHALLOW POND DUG BY THE PREVIOUS OWNERS AS WELL AS A HAND CUT DITCH TO HELP TRAIN THE PROPERTY DURING PERIODS OF HEAVY RAINFALL. OF THE FOUR HOMES ON THE PROPERTY, ONLY ONE WAS OCCUPIED.

THE OTHER THREE WERE IN DISREPAIR AND UNSAFE TO ENTER.

ADDITIONALLY, THE SITE WAS LITTERED WITH LARGE HOUSEHOLD ITEMS, BOATS, TRAILERS. YOU NAME IT.

LIFETIMES OF THE LONGINGS WERE LEFT BEHIND BY PREVIOUS OWNERS.

TO HELP BETTER VISUALIZE HOW THE PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED, HIGHLIGHTED IN RED THE RESIDENCES AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY. IN BLACK WHERE THE PAVED AREAS AND DRIVEWAY ACCESSES. GREEN WHERE THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF FOUR SEPTIC TANKS AND IN BLUE IS THE POND AND HAND CUT DITCH. HERE I HAVE A COUPLE PHOTOS OF THE ABANDON STRUCTURES LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY.

THEY WERE VANDALIZED AND IN POOR CONDITION.

ON THE LEFT OF THE SLIDE IS A DIFFERENT MOBILE HOME THEY HAD SEVERE STORM DAMAGE INCLUDING COLLAPSING ROOF.

ON THE RIGHT IS A FUEL STORAGE CONTAINER.

ONE EXAMPLE OF THE MANY LARGE ITEMS THAT LITTER THE SITE.

DORI AT SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE OF THE PROPERTY CLEANED UP.

SHE REMOVED ALL STRUCTURES, ALL DEBRIS, AND EACH OF THE FOUR GOALS SEPTIC TANKS. THIS IS WHAT THE PROPERTY IS LIKE TODAY. THIS IS A SLIDE SHOWING THE TYPE OF HOME SHE INTENDS TO BUILD.

THEY WILL FIT THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA AND TAKE ACCOUNT THE NATURAL SURROUNDINGS. THE PLAN IS FOR THE HOMES TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF FILM NEEDED FOR EACH SITE.

REDUCING PHIL IS IMPORTANT FOR TREE PRESERVATION.

TOO MUCH CAN DAMAGE SENSITIVE SYSTEMS. HERE ARE MORE EXAMPLES OF THE TYPES OF HOMES TO BE BUILT WHICH WILL PROVIDE A BOOST TO PROPERTY VALUES, AND ENHANCE THE LOCAL TAX BASE. EACH OF THESE HOMES SHOWN IN THE IMAGES ARE LOCATED IN PONTE VEDRA BEACH NEAR THE PROJECT AND HELP BUILD BY LOCAL CUSTOM BUILDER ASSISTING DORI FOR THE PROJECT. YOU CAN COMPARE HOW THE PROPERTY IS ORGANIZED TO HAVE DORI WOULD LIKE TO RECONFIGURE IT. IN THE RECONFIGURATION, THERE'S A TOTAL OF FIVE HOMESITES AND A MINIMUM OF ONE ACRE WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE PROPERTIES OPEN WORLD ZONING DESIGNATION.

IN THE SLIDE, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME TO HIGHLIGHT THE BENEFITS OF THE PROPOSED LOT RECONFIGURATION.

THE LOTS WOULD BE MORE ORGANIZED WOODLOT ACCESS PROVIDED BY A SINGLE COMMON DRIVE.

THIS ALLOWS FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE SECOND CURB CUT ON PALM VALLEY ROAD WHICH WOULD IMPROVE TRAFFIC FLOW ON A HIGHLY TRAVELED NORTH/SOUTH COLLECTOR. THE NEW ACCESS WOULD BE UPGRADED TO A PAVED ROAD SURFACE AND DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A FIRE TRUCK TURNAROUND WHERE NONE CURRENTLY EXISTS.

THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE A FIRE HYDRANT INSTALLED ON THE PROPERTY.

BECAUSE THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE LOT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE EFFICIENT DESIGN AND INSTALLATION OF WATER UTILITY LINES, FIRE HYDRANT IS LIKELY POSSIBLE.

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DORI'S ANTICIPATING CONNECTING PROPERTY TO ST. JOHN'S UTILITY WHERE WATER MAIN CURRENTLY EXISTS.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE SITES, MISS BY PRIVATE WELL.

THE LOT RECONFIGURATION ALLOWS FOR THE EFFICIENT DESIGN AND INSTALLATION OF SEWER LINES. WHILE THERE IS NOT A SEWER MAIN OF PALM VALLEY ROAD, DORI DEVELOPED A SOLUTION FOR THE PROPERTY WITH THE HELP OF HER NEIGHBORS IN THE PLANTATION.

THEY ALONG WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY UTILITIES WOULD LIKE TO SEE DORI SWITCH THE PROPERTY TO SEWER SINCE IT'S MUCH BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. THE PLANTATION COMMUNITY BOARD ALREADY GRANTED AN EASEMENT TO CONNECT SEWER UTILITY LINES THROUGH THE COMMUNITY TO EXISTING MANHOLE.

BEACHES ENERGY INSTALLED A BRAND-NEW ELECTRICAL TRANSFORMER AT THE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, SOUTHWEST CORNER SHOWN IN THE YELLOW SQUARE, THIS WILL ALLOW 05 SITES TO CONNECT TO POWER UNDERGROUND. AS PART OF THE PARCEL RECONFIGURATION, DORI PLANS TO EXPAND AND DEEPEN THE POND TO MEET FLOOD PROTECTION STANDARDS INCLUDING STORAGE AND TREATMENT OF STORM WATER. THIS SLIDE IS PROVIDED TO HIGHLIGHT DORI IS AT IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE WHICH ARE THE FOREMOST EXPERTS IN BALD EAGLE PROTECTION AND REGULATION HAS ALREADY GRANTED AN INCIDENTAL TAKE PERMIT FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

PROVIDES PROTECTION STANDARDS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF HOMES ACROSS THE FIVE RECONFIGURED LIGHTS AND STIPULATES NO HOME SHALL BE BUILT LESS THAN 75 FEET FROM THE EXISTING BALD EAGLE NEST. ST. JOHNS COUNTY ALSO ISSUED A RESIDENTIAL CLEARANCE SHEET TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW HOME TOWARD THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY NEAR THE PLANTATION OF PONTE VEDRA. THIS WAS APPROVED UNDER THE CURRENT LACK CONFIGURATION AND STIPULATES ANY HOME SHALL BE BUILT NO LESS THAN 84 FEET FROM THE EXISTING BALD EAGLE NEST.

THE PROJECT IS STILL UNDER NON- DRC REVIEW BY COUNTY AGENCIES WHICH PERTAINS TO THE LOT RECONFIGURATION.

MOST AGENCY COMMENTS WERE DRESSED HOWEVER THE ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION STATES THAT THE LOT RECONFIGURATION TECHNICALLY REQUIRES APPROVAL OF A WAIVER AND BALD EAGLE MANAGEMENT PLAN BY THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND HERE WE ARE. IN THIS SLOT, I WANT TO POINT OUT IF YOU WERE TO SUPERIMPOSE THE HOUSE THAT WAS PERMITTED BY THE COUNTY AT 84 FEET FROM THE BALD EAGLE NEST ONTO THE SITE PLAN OF THE RECONFIGURED LIGHTS, THE HOUSE PERMITTED PAUSE WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE EASTERNMOST LOT. IN OTHER WORDS FROM THE EAGLE'S PERSPECTIVE, NOTHING HAS CHANGED. BECAUSE THE LOT LINES WOULD BE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. THE LOT LINES ARE INDISTINGUISHABLE TO BALD EAGLE'S.

AS PART OF THE WAIVER APPLICATION, DORI PAID FREE BALD EAGLE MANAGEMENT PLAN TO BE PREPARED BY CARTER ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP, A RESPECTED CONSULTANT.

THEY PREPARED THE PLAN TO MEET U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE REQUIREMENTS IN ADDITION TO TWO ADDITIONAL BENEFITS WHICH WERE NOT REQUIRED BUT DORI INCLUDED IT IN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN. THE FIRST IS TO INCREASE THE DISTANCE AND BUFFER A NEW HOME TO BE BUILT 100 FEET. THIS EXCEEDS THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE AND COUNTY'S CURRENT PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS. THE EXTERIOR OF THE NEW HOMES WILL UTILIZE NATURE BLENDING COLORS AS OPPOSED TO PRESERVICE COLORS THAT MAY BE MORE DISRUPTIVE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOT LOSE SIGHT UNTIL THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS LOW-IMPACT.

THE HOMESITES WILL BE LARGER AND HAVE MUCH MORE OPEN SPACE THAN ANY OF THOSE SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY.

IN THE IN THE CHART LINES AT 75 AND 84 FEET FROM THE NEST TO HIGHLIGHT THE PERMITTING RECORDS OF THE REGULATORY AGENCIES AS COMPARED TO THE 100 FOOT DISTANCE COMMITTED TO IN THE BALD EAGLE MANAGEMENT PLAN DORI IS SEEKING APPROVAL OF TODAY. I WON'T READ THIS SLIDE I AM BY LINE BUT IF YOU COULD TAKE A MOMENT TO STUDY AND COMPARE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN DENYING DORI'S REQUEST VERSUS APPROVING THE WAIVER REQUEST AND NOT BALD EAGLE MANAGEMENT PLAN, YOU WILL FIND THERE'S AN IMPROVEMENT NOT ONLY FOR BALD EAGLE BUT THE COMMUNITY AND COUNTY AT LARGE BY ALLOWING HER TO MOVE FORWARD

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WITH PLANS FOR RECONFIGURING THE SITE.

>> THANK YOU, TRAVIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND WE

WELCOME QUESTIONS. >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>> THE HEIGHT OF THE HOUSE IN THE BACK, IS THAT TWO STORE OR

WILL IT BE UNDER 35 FEET? >> WE DON'T KNOW YET.

IT WOULD MEET CODE REQUIREMENTS.

>> THE BALD EAGLE MANAGEMENT IS 35 FEET IS THE CAT IN THE CODE. DO YOU AGREE TO THAT?

EITHER THAT OR UNDER? >> THIS IS NEWS TO ME THAT BALD EAGLE MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE HAS A HEIGHT LIMITATION, BUT WE WOULD MEET CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR HEIGHT OF STRUCTURES.

WHICH WE ARE TRYING TO MEET IS THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE

STIPULATED TO ENSURE THE PROTECTION -- >> NO BUILDING OF

A HEIGHT GREATER THAN 35 FEET. >> WHAT DOES THE CODE

REFERENCE? >> ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

>> DO YOU HAVE A SECTION? >> SECTION -- I CAN GIVE IT TO

YOU AFTERWARDS. >> SECTION 2 IS NOT THE BALD EAGLE MANAGEMENT SECTION. I THINK IT IS FOR FIVE?

>> LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR -AUGUST 16, 2022.

I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE HEIGHT. I'M NOT ATTACKING YOU.

IF YOU COULD DO 35 FEET OR UNDER, THAT LOOKS BETTER.

CAN YOU DO NO CONSTRUCTION DURING THE NESTING SEASON?

JUST ON THAT ONE LOT. >> THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF HOMES DURING THE NESTING SEASON IN

THE INCIDENTAL TAKE PERMIT. >> THE TAKE PERMIT WAS THE FEDERAL CODE. OUR CODE IS TOUGHER.

THIS BOARD HAS TURNED DOWN THE NEST OVER BY GRAND OAKS.

I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU -- >> I UNDERSTAND.

THE HONEST ANSWER IS BECAUSE IT'S A CONCEPTUAL PLAN AT THIS MOMENT, I CANNOT SAY WHAT THE HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURE WILL BE BUT IT WILL MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROTECTION OF BALD EAGLE'S AND THE ST. JOHNS CODE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD?

>> WE WILL OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

>>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHARLIE HUNT.

I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT YOU COME DOWN ON THE INDIVIDUAL WHO CAME DOWN TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY CAME DOWN TO SEE IT AND LIKE IT AND SPEND TIME DOWN HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND WENT TO MOVE DOWN HERE, AND BUY A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY, REZONING, AND PUT FOUR HOUSES ON IT.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

THE CODE IS 35 FOOT FOR A BALD EAGLE NEST.

AS STATED, THE FAMILY WHO WAS THERE HAS BEEN FIVE GENERATIONS.

THAT'S OVER 100 YEARS, BUT IS THERE RECORD WHEN THOSE BALD EAGLES NESTED? WERE THEY THERE BEFORE OR AFTER THAT FAMILY? BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND LIVED THERE FOR ALL THOSE YEARS. IT'S BECOMING KIND OF -- UNSEEN THOUGHT THAT SOMEBODY ELSE DID IT SO WHY CAN'T WE DO IT? SOMEBODY ELSE PUT A HOUSE RIGHT THERE, AND IT'S THIS FAR AWAY.

LET ME DO IT BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING IT AND THEY DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH US. IT'S THE PRINCIPLE THAT IF IT IS WRONG, IT'S WRONG. THE GENTLEMAN, KNOW THE CODE WAS 35 FOOT, THEY SHOULD HAVE STATED THAT ON THE GO NO GO DISPLAY. IT WOULD BE A GOOD ONE.

WITH THE KNOWN INFORMATION HE HAD, YES, BACK THAT UP.

PUT IT UP THERE. LET'S SEE IT.

YES, WAS THE EAGLES THERE BEFORE THE PREVIOUS GENERATIONS WERE THERE? OR DID THEY MOVE IN BECAUSE OF

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WHERE IT WAS LOCATED AND ALSO BECAUSE NONE OF THE PROPERTY WAS BEING HEAVILY DEVELOPED LIKE IT IS.

IT'S THE POINT OF THE MATTER. YES, THE OTHER ONES GOT AWAY WITH IT, SO I CAN TOO. THAT SEEMS TO BE THE COMMON SENSE THOUGHT IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR DEVELOPING BECAUSE IF YOU LIKE IT, SEE IT, YOU ENJOYED BEING DOWN HERE, THERE YOU GO. TAKE YOUR PROPERTY.

CUT IT UP AND PUT FOUR HOUSES BACK ON IT SO YOU CAN MAKE A LOT OF MONEY AND THAT'S WHAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY SEEMS TO BE FOR OUTSIDERS COMING DOWN HERE. THANK YOU.

>> BJ, WEST CITY SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I'M NOT A PUNT EAGLES THAT MUCH BUT I KNOW THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH THE EAGLES BECAUSE THEY ARE AROUND HERE.

NOT WITH THEM BUT WITH US. CAN ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS TELL ME WHO IS GOING TO CHECK UP TO MAKE SURE THOSE EAGLES ARE THERE? TO FISH AND WILDLIFE GO OUT ALL THE TIME OR ONCE A YEAR TO CHECK ON THEM? FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE STREAMING LATER ON, IF ANYONE CAN TELL US, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THERE ARE PROBLEMS ON ANASTASIA ISLAND, 312 AND THEY WANT TO DO THINGS THEIR TWIRL.

I WAS THINKING IT'S A NICE PRESENTATION THE WAY SHE WANTS TO DIVIDE IT UP. WHAT ABOUT NOT MAKING ANY BUILDING NEXT DOOR TO THOSE AND HAVE FOUR HOUSES INSTEAD OF FIVE HOUSES? I KNOW THAT'S LESS MONEY, THEN MAYBE THE FOUR THAT'S THERE WOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE EAGLES AND WE WILL KNOW THEY WILL BE THERE FOR ONE HUNDRED YEARS AFTER THIS LADY AND HER FAMILY SELL THIS PLACE.

PEOPLE NEED HOMES. I WONDER THOSE HOMES WILL BE AFFORDABLE? I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE WILL BE AFFORDABLE HOUSES. I DID NOT HEAR THAT IN THE PRESENTATION. THAT WOULD BE NICE BECAUSE ON THE ONE WHERE THE NEST IS, THEIR NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR, WE COULD BUILD A SMALLER HOUSE AND COULD HAVE FIVE INSTEAD OF CUTTING TO FOUR. IF IT'S SMALLER, THEN THERE WOULD BE NO PROBLEMS EXCEPT I DO, NO JOKING, I WOULD LIKE SOMEBODY TO TELL US ABOUT THE EAGLES.

CHECKS UP ON THESE GUYS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE STILL THERE SINCE THEY'VE BEEN THERE A WHILE. THANK YOU.

>> MICHAEL MACDONALD, I APPLAUD YOU IN YOUR DECISION.

IT'S A UNIQUE PROPERTY AND YOU HAVE GREAT TASTE.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB REHABILITATING THE PROPERTY, BUT MY EXTENT IS YOU REHABILITATED THE PROPERTY TO ACCOMMODATE THE EAGLE'S HABITAT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THAT PICTURE, IT'S THE MOST BEAUTIFUL HABITAT YOU CAN IMAGINE FOR AN AMERICAN BALD EAGLE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE CONSIDERING PUTTING A HOME THAT CLOSE TO IT WHEN THAT'S A SYMBOL OF OUR UNITED STATES, THE BALD EAGLE SHOULD BE PROTECTED AND SHOULD BE UTTERLY PROTECTED. WE SHOULD GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO PROTECT THE SPACE BECAUSE WHAT IF WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO FLY OFF? WHERE WILL IT GO? PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD AND LAND? THERE ARE -- THE LAST THE SPOT IT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO FLY TO BUT I'M SURE THAT'S UNDER DESIGN FROM JACKSONVILLE TO DEVELOP THAT AREA AS THEY HAVE THE INTERCOASTAL. I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT THAT IT'S A SYMBOL OF AN AMERICAN, THAT'S THE SYMBOL OF AMERICA, AMERICAN BALD EAGLE AND ITS HABITAT LIVING LIKE.

YOU ARE POTENTIALLY GOING TO IMPACT THIS BIRD TO FLY A. NO TELLING HOW LONG IT'S BEEN THERE.

IT SEEMS UNFEASIBLE. WHEN THESE CUSTOM HOMES WILL BE BUILT, IT WILL NOT AFFECT OUR TAX RATE BECAUSE THEY WILL BE CUSTOM HOMES AND ACROSS 3 MILLION TO BUILD IT AND THEY WILL SAY 1.2. I AM IN THE FIELD AND I KNOW IT HAPPENS REGULARLY DROP PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD, EVERYWHERE.

IT'S FINE AND DANDY BUT THAT DOESN'T SEE IT WILL BENEFIT OUR TAX BASE. WE MIGHT MAKE 40 GRAND FROM THEM TABS IN ONE YEAR. WHEN IT COMES TO IMPACTING THE

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AREA TO KNOW EXTENT, ENCOURAGING BALD EAGLES TO POTENTIALLY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE WE CREATED MANICURED LAWNS THEY HAVE TO OVERSEE THAT ARE CONSTANTLY BOMBARDED BY ACTIVITY. YOU'VE GOT A BEAUTIFUL SPACE.

LEAVE IT ALONE. >> ANYONE IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7? WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> OKAY. AND A REBUTTAL? NO? OKAY.

WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS?

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >> ONE QUICK COMMENT THAT I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING THE WAY TRAVIS MINCH PUT IT AND I HAVEN'T HEARD IT PUT THAT WAY BEFORE BUT FROM EAGLES PERSPECTIVE NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

I THINK THAT'S PRETTY COMPELLING . I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS YOU ARE GOING TO. I THINK WHAT MIGHT MAKE ME FEEL WARMER ABOUT THIS IF YOU'RE WILLING TO COMMIT THE STEM WALL CONSTRUCTION IS A CONDITION. I KNOW YOU ARE FULLY COMMITTED TO THAT. I DO NOT QUESTION BUT MAYBE IS A CONDITION TO PROVE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

>> AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS? >> WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PUT THAT IN THE TEXT? OKAY.

THEN I WOULD BE WILLING TO PROVE IT.

I WANT TO COMMEND YOU AND THANK YOU FOR NOT BUILDING IT OUT.

YOU HAVE DONE A NICE JOB TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF THE AREA OF THE TREES AND OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OF THE EAGLES.

THANK YOU. >> I GUESS GOING FORWARD, I HAVE WATCHED THAT NEST FOR 12 YEARS.

I USED TO LIVE IN THE PLANTATION AND WE WOULD WALK TO SEE HOW MANY BIRDS WERE BORN. I WISH YOU WOULD COMMIT TO NOT OVER 35 FEET ON THE LOT NEXT TO THE NEST.

YOU WILL AGREE TO THAT? OKAY.

MOTION TO APPROVE 2023-20 INDULGE IN A BALD EAGLE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE BALD EAGLES NEST SJ-38 PALM BALLET

PROPERTIES BY DIGGS EFFECT PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES 5-0. CONGRATULATIONS. >> COMMISSIONERS? I WANTED TO CLARIFY WITH THAT VOTE WHETHER THE CONDITIONS YOU WERE TALKING TO AND STIPULATED WERE TO BE INCLUDED AS

CONDITIONS FOR THE APPROVAL? >> YES.

>> THAT'S ON THE RECORD. >> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6.

WELCOME BACK. >> THE LOCATION OF THE TWO FENCES ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT HERE. THE SIZE IS NOT EXACT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH AN ACTUAL -- WE ARE THERE TO SEE WHERE IT IS STOPPING AND STARTING.

THE IDEA IS TO HAVE THE FENCE, THIS DRIVEWAY FROM HERE TO HERE.

THERE'S A MEDAL BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY.

WITH IN THIS SECTION HERE. WE CONFIRMED 8 PUT FENCES ALOUD AND IT WOULD START 25 FEET BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE WHICH IS A SET BACK FROM THE ROAD. ADDITIONAL FENCE -- IN THIS SECTION AS WELL AS THREE GALLON 36 VIBURNUM'S BE PLANTED THERE.

THIS BUILDING BEING THE 25 NLR RATING NOISE REDUCTION ON THAT.

GO AHEAD. >> I READ, WORKING WITH THE COUNSEL FOR THE COUNTY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE SCAR READ INTO THE RECORD IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE MAP.

IT WOULD INCLUDE A 36 INCH HIGH VIBURNUM AT THE TIME OF INSTALLATION THAT WOULD BE THREE FEET TALLER THAN 36 INCHES. SIX PLANS SPACED APART AS DEPICTED THERE ON THE SITE PLAN. THE NOISE LEVEL PRODUCTION RATE, IT'S RIGHT THERE. FOR THE ONE BUILDING ON SITE.

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WE WOULD ASK HER LAST CONSIDERATION, ESPECIALLY WORKING IN NEGOTIATING THESE LAST TERMS OF THE ADDITIONAL BUFFERING, THE HOURS OF OPERATION, AMPLIFIED MUSIC COULD BE EXTENDED UNTIL 10:00 P.M.

WHICH IS ONE HOUR LESS THAN YOUR NOISE ORDINANCE INDICATES ALREADY FOR SATURDAY AND FRIDAY ONLY.

MONDAY -- SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY WOULD BE 9:00 P.M.

, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY WOULD BE UNTIL 10:00 P.M.

WHICH IS IN CONFERRING WITH YOUR COUNSEL IS ONE HOUR LESS THAN THE EXISTING NOISE ORDINANCE.

IT'S AN ISSUE OF ALLOWANCE FOR COMPETITIVENESS. MOST OF THE VENUES WHEN YOU'RE SPENDING THIS KIND OF MONEY TO RENT THESE VENUES, BEING OPEN TO THAT TIME MAKES THE DIFFERENCE FOR THEM FOR THE ACTIVITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >> BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> MADAM CHAIR, I WILL MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE A MOTION THEN LEGAL WILL CORRECT ME FOUR OR FIVE TIMES THEN WE WILL HAVE A MOTION WE CAN VOTE.

THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO HAVE CONSIDERED.

I HAVE READ EVERY EMAIL AND WATCH THE PZA MEETING.

WE ARE HEARING THIS DIDN'T KNOW AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK JUDY SPIEGEL DOES IN THE PEOPLE WHO SIT ON THE PZA.

YOU CAREFULLY CONSIDER THE FACTS . I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK. WHAT MR. HERZBERG WHICH IS STICKING IN THE BACK OF MY MIND AND IN THE FRONT OF MY MIND NOW IS IT'S RESIDENTIAL -- WHILE REASONABLE MINDS CAN DISAGREE ABOUT THE USE AND WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION AND IF YOU PUT 100 PEOPLE IN THE ROOM IT MIGHT BE 50-50.

NOBODY WANTS THE SLOT TURNED INTO RESIDENCES AND HAVE THAT CONSTRUCTION AND FILL. THEY WOULD HAVE TO CLEAR-CUT THE PARCEL. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN WHETHER FIVE YEARS FROM NOW IT 20 YEARS.

IT'S A FAR MORE COMPATIBLE USE. TREES WILL REMAIN ON THE PROPERTY AND IT WILL REMAIN OLD FLORIDA PROPERTY.

FOR THOSE REASONS, I MOVED TO APPROVE 2023-03 OF -- OVERTURNING THE DECISION OF THE PLANNING AGENCY AND APPROVING THE REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR INDOOR AND OUTDOOR WEDDINGS, SPECIAL EVENT VENUE SUBJECT EIGHT FINDINGS OF FACT AND THE 11 CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT PLUS THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE SHOWN ON THE MAP, THAT WAS PLACED ON THE OVERHEAD PLUS LIMITING OUR SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY TO AMPLIFIED SOUND AND 9:00 P.M.

AND OPERATIONS ENDING AT 10:00 P.M.

FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, WILL FIGHT SOUND AND THEN AT 10:00 P.M.

AND OPERATIONS ENDING AT 11:00 P.M.

THAT'S MY MOTION THROUGH THE CHAIR LEGAL, HOW DID I MESSED

THAT UP? >> YOU ARE GOOD.

WE ALSO HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN. WE AGREED TO A BACK THERE AND IT'S WHAT WE AGREED TO. THE ONLY QUESTION MARKS WHERE

[8. Public Hearing * REZ 2023-19 ML Conner Rezoning. Request to rezone approximately .85 acres of land from Commercial Neighborhood (CN) to Residential, Single Family (RS-3), specifically, located at 6297 & 6289 A1A S / 6298 & 6288 Costanero Rd. The Planning and Zoning Agency heard this request at their regularly scheduled public hearing on January 18, 2024, and recommended approval with a unanimous vote of 6 to 0.]

THE TIME FOR ENDING THE OPERATIONS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. TAYLOR. >> WE HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.

CONGRATULATIONS. THAT PASSES 4-1.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>> ONTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> NO MEETING, MA'AM.

>> I HAVE NONE. >> NO RECORD OF ANY MEETINGS.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> NONE.

>> THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO COME HERE TODAY. IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND TIME.

TODAY WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO REZONE A PIECE OF LAND THAT'S LOCATED IN CHURCH HILL PEACH. TRYING TO TRANSFER IT FROM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO SINGLE-FAMILY USE. WE WERE BEFORE THE PNC A MONTH AGO AND IT PASSED WITH A FIVE VOTE. THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THAT AREA IS RES-C.

IT DOES BORDER SOME RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH WHILE THE PIECE FURTHER TO THE NORTH IS CNN WHICH IS COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE CURRENTLY. ANOTHER OVERVIEW OF THE SITE THE REAR IS ON COST AND NARROW. IT'S A TYPICAL SITE PLAN FOR THAT SITE. TO CONSTRUCT SINGLE- FAMILY HOMES.

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I OVERLAID IT AND EACH SITE FOR YOU ON LOT 12, 13, 11, AND 12 AGAIN ON THE BACKSIDE. THE NEXT ONE SHOWS HOW THEY WOULD CONFORM IN CONJUNCTION WITH ONE ANOTHER.

FRONTING COSTANERO ROAD IN TWO FRONTING A 1A.

ONE OF THE CONCERNS IN THE PAST HAS BEEN INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR RESIDENTIAL SO THAT TO ON A1A TO ELIMINATE THE CURB CUTS WOULD BE A COMBINED DRUG WITH THE ABILITY TO TURN AROUND AS WELL FOR CARS TO ENTER AND EXIT ON A1A.

A SAMPLE OF A HOME TO BE CONSTRUCTED THERE, TO GIVE THE IDEA OF WHAT IS PLANNED. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, DETAILS IN THE FOUR, FIVE-BEDROOM RANGE, 1800 SQUARE FEET ALLOWING FOR A SINGLE CAR GARAGE POSSIBLY TWO CAR GARAGE.

THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE

BOARD? >> I HAVE A QUESTION TO STAFF REGARDING THE CROSSWALK IN TREASURE BEACH.

MIKE, DO YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON THAT? I KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR A WHILE.

>> MIKE ROBINSON. WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION?

>> REGARDING THE CROSSWALK, A1A TO THE BEACH.

DO YOU KNOW THE TIME LINE OF THAT?

>> IF YOU GIVE ME A MINUTE TO LOOK.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S RELEVANT TO YOUR DISCUSSION.

I SAW AN EMAIL THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT.

MAYBE FROM D.O.T. IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. >> PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> WE WILL OPEN IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON I-10 AGENDA NUMBER IT. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD. WANT TO WAIT ON YOUR ANSWER?

[9. LAMP Riverdale CR 1 3 / Atlantic Road property Phase II ESA report update and request for direction from the BOCC. Resolution No. 2023-332 authorized the County Administrator to execute a Purchase and Sale Agreement for the acquisition of approximately 30 acres of land located off County Road 1 3 South for conservation. On November 21 , 2023, upon consideration of the County’s inspection of the property and the results of the Phase I Environmental Site Assessment, the Board of County Commissioners approved extending the inspection period and closing date of the Purchase and Sale Agreement and directed staff to obtain a Phase II Environmental Site Assessment on the property. Addendum I to the Purchase and Sale Agreement provides an extension to the inspection period to March 6, 2024, and an extension of the closing date to on or before April 5, 2024. The Phase II Environmental Site Assessment report update is presented herein and staff is seeking direction from the BOCC on potential options. The Seller is agreeable to enter into a second addendum to extend the inspection period for 60 days to allow for the additional testing recommended in the report. The Board also ha s the authority under the purchase and sale agreement to find the property unsuitable for the county's purposes and terminate the sale agreement with full refund of the $70,000.00 deposit. ]

>> I WILL OFFER A MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2024-EIGHT APPROVING -- CONNOR REZONING BASED ON FOUR FINDING OF FACT.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. PASSES 5-0.

CONGRATULATIONS, MR. MILLER. THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM

NUMBER 9. GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

ACCOMPANYING ME AS RYAN, ENVIRONMENTAL SUPERVISOR AND ALSO LIAISON. WE ARE HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE RESULTS OF PHASE TWO, DIRECTED BY THE BOARD FOR LAMP PROPERTY RANKED NUMBER 4 RIVERDALE AND ATLANTIC RIVERDALE PROPERTY OFF COUNTY ROAD 13 AND ATLANTIC ROAD.

WE ARE HERE TO REQUEST DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD IN THE FORM OF TWO MOTIONS THAT WILL EITHER PROVIDE -- TO FACILITATE CLOSING ON THE PROPERTY OR TERMINATE THE PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT. I WILL PASS IT OVER TO RYAN TO DETAIL THE OUTCOME OF THE REPORT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. RYAN WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

I WILL START WHERE WE LEFT OFF WITH PHASE TWO.

DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF DILAPIDATED BARRELS DISCOVERED ON THE PROPERTY DURING THE PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT, PHASE 2 WAS ASSOCIATED.

SAMPLES WERE ANALYZED. THE REPORT DETERMINED NO EXCEEDANCES OF STATE SOIL CLEANUP TARGET LEVELS BUT DID DETERMINE THREE EXCEEDANCES FOR GROUNDWATER LEACHABILITY.

AND AGRICULTURAL PESTICIDE AND A AGRICULTURAL HERBICIDE.

THE CONTAMINANTS WERE FOUND IN THREE SOIL SAMPLES.

AS A RESULT, THE CONSULTANT RECOMMENDS INSTALLED IN SAMPLING WELL TO SAMPLE THE GROUNDWATER AND TAKING TWO ADDITIONAL SOIL SAMPLES TO ENSURE THEIR HAS NOT BEEN

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LEACHING OF CHEMICALS UNDER THE GROUNDWATER.

IF ANY SAMPLES REFLECT CONTAMINATION, THEN FURTHER ASSESSMENT TO VERIFY THE CONSTANT OF THE PLUME ON THE SITE WITHIN THE SOIL AND GROUNDWATER WOULD BE REQUIRED.

THE CONSULTANT PREPARED A QUOTE FOR THE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDED GROUNDWATER AND SOIL SAMPLES. WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION

AS WELL. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> RYAN READ EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO REFER TO AND READ ON PAGE 3 OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT. BASED ON THE EVIDENCE OF -- I AM RELUCTANT TO GO FORWARD WITH ANY MORE TESTING TO DO PHASE TWO ON THIS PROJECT. I'VE HAD PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH PESTICIDES AND HERBICIDES.

THEY'VE BEEN REFERRED TO BY OTHER SPEAKERS IN THE PAST AND WHAT HAPPENED ON LAKE APOPKA. IT WAS DEVASTATING.

I'M A LITTLE GUN SHY. IF THE MAJORITY WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD, I WILL NOT THROW A HISSY FIT, BUT I CANNOT SUPPORT GOING FORWARD WITH EVIDENCE OF CONTAMINANTS THAT COULD CREATE

A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN MY MIND. >> ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, COMMISSIONER DEAN.

I AGREE. IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO MAKE SURE THIS PERSON WAS BEING EVALUATED ON ITS MERITS AS OPPOSED TO LAND OWNERSHIP. A APPRECIATE IT THE BOARD SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD AND DOING AT LEAST THIS NEXT PHASE BUT I AM INCLINED TO SAY PERHAPS WE LEAVE THIS PARCEL ON THE LAMP LIST BUT AT THIS POINT, TERMINATE THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT. THAT'S WHERE I STAND.

>> I ECHO YOUR COMMENTS, IN FAVOR OF TERMINATING.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT? >> OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9. PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

>> NICOLE CROSBY. IT IS A SHAME THE TAXPAYERS HAD TO WASTE $24,000 ON THIS LEVEL TWO SURVEY THAT YOU ORDERED AND THE BOUNDARY SURVEY. $24,000 WAS CLEAR ON NOVEMBER 21 THAT THIS PROPERTY HAD A LOT OF FLAWS.

I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER JOSEPH HAS RAISED ISSUES FOR ALMOST A YEAR, MANY ISSUES, ALMOST TOO NUMEROUS TO LIST.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE SHOULD SIT SHOULD REMAIN ON THE LAMP LIST. STAFF HAS COME OUT WITH A NEW RULE WHICH THAT ANY PROPERTY THAT RATES LESS THAN 50% OF THE OVERALL POSSIBLE SCORE DOESN'T EVEN GO TO COMMISSIONERS ANYMORE. EVERY PROPERTY THAT RATES LOWER THAN 52 POINTS OUT OF 105, YOU DON'T CONSIDER AT THIS POINT.

THAT SHOULD REMOVE THIS PROPERTY FROM THE LIST.

IT SHOULD REMOVE OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE LIST AS WELL.

PARTICULARLY CONSIDERING WE HAVE OTHER WONDERFUL PROPERTIES THAT ARE ROLLED AND SINCE THEN. I EXPRESSED SUCH INTENSE DISLIKE FOR THAT DECISION NOVEMBER 21 TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, OUR OWN STAFF SAID THIS PROPERTY WAS A WETLAND THAT WAS RECEIVING RUNOFF FROM AGRICULTURAL LAND ON TWO SITES. IT DOESN'T TAKE A GENIUS THAT THAT WILL RESULT IN SERIOUS CONTAMINATION, AND IT DID.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE HERBICIDE AND PESTICIDE THAT HAVE BEEN FOUND IN THE SOIL SAMPLES, THEY HAVE BEEN BANNED WORLDWIDE SINCE 1987. THAT MEANS THEY HAVE BEEN IN THAT AREA SINCE 1987. I FIND IT UNBELIEVABLE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD AND SPENT $24,000 ON THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S WHY I GOT SO ANGRY THAT A . I DID WALK OUT AND UTTERED A MILD PROFANITY, AND YOU SEND A POLICE OFFICER AFTER ME TO TALK TO ME. I WOULD LIKE A POLICE OFFICER TO TALK TO YOU TO GET OUR $24,000 BACK.

>> ANYONE IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9? SEEING

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NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA NUMBER 9.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> I AM SURE NICOLE IS THRILLED WITH THE LAMP PROGRAM THAT DID NOT EXIST AND ACCESS SO WE CAN PUT MORE LAND AND CONSERVATION. SHE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO SHARE THOSE THOUGHTS. SHE IS THRILLED WE ARE LETTING -- ADDING MORE LAND TO COMPENSATION.

>> I WILL MOVE TO TERMINATE THE PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT.

[10. Consider appointments to the Housing Finance Authority. Currently there are two (2) vacancies on the Housing Finance Authority due to the expiring terms of Robert Marshall and Michael O'Donnell. The vacancy ad was placed and ran for (30) days. Please find attached for your review and consideration a letter of recommendation from the Housing Finance Authority and (4) applications: Eli Gillmore Dist. 3 , Robert Marshall Dist. 3 , Michael O'Donnell Dist. 5, Timothy White Dist. 5. ]

THAT'S A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2024.

>> 80. >> AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR DESIGNATE TERMINATE THE SALE AGREEMENT BETWEEN 400 ORANGE AVENUE AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

THAT PASSES 5-0. MS. SPENCER? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, JOANNE SPENCER. I AM HERE FOR TWO ITEMS CONSIDERING POINT NUMBER 10 APPOINTMENTS TO THE HOUSING FINANCE AUTHORITY. THERE TWO VACANCIES ON THE BOARD DUE TO EXPIRED TERMS. THERE WERE FOUR APPLICATIONS.

THE VACANCY HAD RAN FOR 30 DAYS AND SEE A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION TO REAPPOINT ROBERT MARSHALL AND MICHAEL O'DONNELL TO THE FINANCE AUTHORITY.

I AM ON STANDBY IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

>> WE WILL OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[11. Consider appointments to the Health & Human Services Advisory Council (HHSAC). The Health and Human Services Advisory Council's purpose is to evaluate huma n services programs in the community to ensure that the needs of the residents of St. Johns County are met. Currently, there are two (2) vacancies due to expired terms. A vacancy ad was placed and ran for (30) days. Please find attached for your review and consideration, a letter of recommendation from HHSAC and (12) applications: Daniel Deptula Dist. 1, Stephanie Royer Dist. 2, Tara Haley Dist. 2, Eli Gillmore Dist. 3 , Kayla Collins Dist. 3 , William A. Cover Jr. Dist. 3 , Susan Brown Dist. 4, Robert Douglas Will Dist. 4, Lucellie Wells-Johnson Dist. 5, Matthew Ohlson Dist. 5, Andrea Lyles Dist. 5, Claudia Costello, Dist. 5. ]

10. ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> VICE CHAIR ALAIMO

>> I REAPPOINT ROBERT MARSHALL FOR FOUR YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO

EXPIRE FEBRUARY 20, 2028. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY. MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11 IS CONSIDERED APPOINTMENTS TO THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL. IT'S THE SAME SITUATION, TWO VACANCIES AND BECAUSE OF EXPIRED TERMS. VACANCY PLACED AND RAN FOR 30 DAYS AND WE RECEIVED 12 APPLICATIONS FOR THIS APPOINTMENT.

THEY DECIDED TO REAPPOINT WILLIAM AND TARA FOR FULL FOUR YOUR TERMS. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS I AM ON

STANDBY. >> WE DID THE ONE, IT WAS TWO? DID WE SKIP ONE? WE DID ROBERT MARSHALL BUT THERE'S THE SECOND

ONE FOR MICHAEL O'DONNELL? >> YOU ARE CORRECT.

I JUMPED THE GUN AND JUMPED APPEARED TO NUMBER 11.

I APOLOGIZE. LET'S GO BACK TO THE VOTE FOR

NUMBER 10. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT MICHAEL O'DONNELL FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE