[Call to Order by Chair ]
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THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. MATERIALS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE UNDER AGENDAS AND MINUTES, WHEN YOU FIND THE AGENDA YOU MAY CLICK ON THE ITEM TO ACCESS ALL SUPPORTING MATERIAL. PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON ANY AGENDA ITEM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT , PUBLIC, IS LIMITED TO THREE MINS, SHOULD THERE BE ANY EXHIBITS OR PHOTOGRAPHS PLEASE PROVIDE THE MATERIALS TO THE CLERK OF COURT, PLEASE CALL TO ORDER.
PRESENT. NOW WE WILL HEAR INDICATION BROUGHT TO US BY PASTOR OF FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AGAIN. LET'S PRAY . HOLY GOD WE TAKE A BREATH AS WE GATHER HERE TODAY WE INVOKE THE SPIRIT OF UNITY, WISDOM AND COMPASSION GOD MADE DISCUSSIONS BE GUIDED BY A SHARED COMMITMENT TO THE CARE OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY MAYBE APPROACH DELIBERATIONS WITH OPEN HEARTS AND OPEN MINDS SEEKING SOLUTIONS THAT BENEFIT ALL PEOPLE. GOD GRANT US THE STRENGTH TO LISTEN WITH RESPECT, SPEAK WITH CLARITY AND WORK TOGETHER WITH A COMMON PURPOSE WHETHER THE DECISIONS HERE TODAY THAT ARE MADE BE JUST AND EQUITABLE REFLECTING THE VALUES OF FAIRNESS AND INCLUSIVITY. MAY WE HEAR ALL THE VOICES OF COMMUNITY WITH EQUAL WEIGHT AND EQUAL VALUE.
IN THIS COUNTY COMMISSION MAY WE FIND THE INSPIRATION TO SERVE OUR PEOPLE FAITHFULLY AND UPHOLD THE TRUST THEY HAVE PLACED IN US. MAY EFFORT BE GUIDED BY THE PRINCIPLES OF JUSTICE, INTEGRITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. IN GOD IN ALL OF THIS HELP US TO REMEMBER AND LIVE INTO THE WORDS OF REVEREND DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. DARKNESS CANNOT DRIVE OUT DARKNESS, ONLY LIGHT CAN DO THAT. HATE CANNOT DRIVE OUT HATE, ONLY LOVE CAN DO THAT.'S AMEN.
>> THANK YOU, NOW TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE, UNITED STATES NAVY CHIEF PETTY OFFICER
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL,
[Proclamation Recognizing February 2024 as Black History Month ]
INTRODUCE PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING FEBRUARY 2024 AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH. PLEASE COME JOIN ME UP AT THE FRONT.WOULD YOU MIND READING THE PROCLAMATION TO THE RECORD?
>> WHEREAS WITH ORIGINS DATING BACK TO 1926, BLACK HISTORY MONTH WAS ESTABLISHED ON THE PRINCIPLES OF DR. CARTER WOODSON WHO FOUNDED THE ASSOCIATION FOR THE STUDY OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN LIFE AND HISTORY AND WHEREAS DURING THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, WE CELEBRATE THE VAST, RICH AND SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS TO THE UNITED STATES AND CULTURAL IDENTITY AND WHEREAS THE THEME FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN 2024 IS AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND THE ARTS, AFRICAN-AMERICAN ARTISTS HAVE USED ART TO PRESERVE HISTORY AND COMMUNITY MEMORY AND FOR EMPOWERMENT IN THE FIELDS OF
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VISUAL AND PERFORMING ARTS, LITERATURE, FASHION, FOLKLORE, LANGUAGE, FILM, MUSIC, ARCHITECTURE, CULINARY AND OTHER FORMS OF CULTURAL EXPRESSION. THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN INFLUENCE HAS BEEN PARAMOUNT AND WHEREAS AFRICAN HISTORY IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA SPANS MORE THAN 450 YEARS AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS HOME ESTABLISHED IN 1738 AS THE FIRST FREE AFRICAN-AMERICAN SETTLEMENT IN THE PRESENT BOUNDARIES OF THE UNITED STATES AND WHEREAS THE HISTORIES OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS SAINT AUGUSTINE, HASTINGS, ELKTON AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY ARE FOREVER INTERCONNECTED THROUGH SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL EVENTS THAT HELPED SHAPE THE NATION.ST. JOHNS COUNTY REMAINS DEDICATED TO HONORING THE HISTORY , CULTURE AND CONTRIBUTIONS, THAT AFRICAN-AMERICANS BROUGHT AND CONTINUE TO BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY. BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN FLORIDA THAT FEBRUARY 2024 BE DESIGNATED AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS AT ST.
JOHNS COUNTY IN FLORIDA THE SIXTH DAY OF JANUARY 2024.
'S >> FIRST OF ALL, GOOD MORNING.
WITH ME THIS MORNING IS THE CHAIR OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND THE VICE CHAIR . FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR CHAIRPERSON IN THIS MISSION AND THE REST OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY IS GIVING AMERICA HISTORY. IF WE WOULD LOOK AT THE WRIGHT BROTHERS WITH THE AIRPLANE , THAT'S AMERICAN HISTORY. WE LOOK AT THE FORD BROTHERS, THAT IS AMERICA HISTORY. IF WE LOOK AT THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAN THAT INVENTED THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, THAT IS AMERICA HISTORY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE AFRICAN-AMERICA N MAN THAT INVENTED THE GAS MASK WITH OUR ENVIRONMENT THAT IS AMERICA HISTORY. IF WE LOOK AT THE FIRST BLACK FEMALE MILLIONAIRE MADAME CJ WALKER WHO INVENTED THE STRAIGHTENING CALM FOR HER AND OTHER PRODUCTS OKAY THAT IS AMERICA HISTORY. I WANT TO LOOK SOMETIMES WHY DID THEY INVENT CERTAIN THINGS AND THIS ONE ALWAYS CATCHES ME. THIS IS IN THE 1800S. THE GREAT CHEF, AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN COOKING AND HE COOKED SOME POTATOES AND THE CUSTOMER SEND IT BACK WITH THE WAITER AND SAID THINNER. HE SAID OKAY, THE SECOND TIME THE CUSTOMER SAID THINNER. THE THIRD TIME THE CHEF GOT A LITTLE ANGRY AND HE'S A LITTLE TIRED HE SAID YOU WANT THIN I WILL MAKE IT AS THIN AS THE NEWSPAPER WHICH HE DID AND IN HIS ANGER HE TOOK SALT AND THREW IT ON THE POTATOES HENCEFORTH THE POTATO CHIP . AMERICAN HISTORY. THANK YOU.
[Proclamation Commemorating the Life and Legacy of Dr. Otis A. Mason ]
PLEASURE AND MY HONOR TO OFFER THIS PROCLAMATION AND I CALL[00:10:02]
ON PAMELA MASON TO PLEASE JOIN ME HERE AT THE MICROPHONE. THE DAUGHTER OF DR. OTIS A. MASON. I MIGHT GET A LITTLE EMOTIONAL THIS MORNING. 35 YEARS IS A LONG TIME. THIS IS A TWO-FOR-ONE FOR ME TODAY IN HONORING DR. MASON FOR SERVING AS SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY , HE ALSO IN 1995 TO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. IF YOU KNOW MY HISTORY I WAS ABLE TO SERVE WITH HIM OR FOR HIM FOR SIX YEARS AND I BECAME VERY VERY CLOSE. SO WITH THAT SAID WE WILL READ THE PROCLAMATION FORDR. OTIS MASON. >> COMMISSION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY WHEREAS OTIS A.
MASON'S ST. JOHNS COUNTY NATIVE WHO AFTER DECADES AS A TEACHER AND PRINCIPAL ROSE TO BECOME THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S FIRST BLACK SUPERINTENDENT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOLS FROM 1984 TO 1992. AND WHEREAS AFTER SERVICING TWO YEARS WITH THE US ARMY DURING THE KOREAN WAR HE RECEIVED A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN PHYSICAL EDUCATION WITH HONORS IN 1950. AND WHEREAS AFTER RECEIVING HIS MASTER'S DEGREE IN EDUCATION ADMINISTRATION, IN 1958 FOR NEW YORK UNIVERSITY, TWO YEARS LATER HE WAS NAMED PRINCIPAL OF W HARRIS SCHOOL IN HASTINGS AND WHEREAS IN 1966 BECAME THE SUPERVISOR AS ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS , MASON PUSHED FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF FULL INTEGRATION OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOLS AND WHEREAS COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY WAS ENDLESS, BEING PART OF THE BOARD, FLAGLER HOSPITAL TRUSTED MEMBER, ST. JOHNS COUNTY WATER RIVER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT BOARD, THE BUCKINGHAM SMITH ASSOCIATION AND ST. JOHNS WELFARE FEDERATION. HE WAS ALSO A LIFETIME MEMBER OF THE FRATERNITY AND SOCIETY AND WHEREAS NOT ONLY WAS OTIS A. MASON ELEMENTARY NAMED AFTER HIM, HE WAS INDUCTED INTO ST. JOHNS COUNTY SPORT HALL OF FAME AND THE RECIPIENT OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT LEARNING LEGACY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD FOLLOWED BY BEING FLORIDA A& M GALLERY OF DISTINGUISHED EDUCATORS. APRIL 2022 FLORIDA A&M BESTOWED HONORARY DOCTORATE DEGREE TO OTIS A. MASON NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA THAT FEBRUARY 6, 2024 COMMEMORATES THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF DR. OTIS A. MASON PASSED AND ADOPTED BY ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA FEBRUARY 6, 2021.
WHILE MY FATHER IS NO LONGER PHYSICALLY WITH US, HIS SPIRIT REMAINS WITH US IN THE CITY AND COUNTY FOREVER. SO APPROPRIATE THIS WOULD HAPPEN DURING BLACK HISTORY MONTH WITH HIM BEING THE FIRST EVER ELECTED BLACK SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. ALSO JUST A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE FURTHER BIT OF HISTORY, I SPOKE AT HIS SERVICES LAST WEEK WHEN HE WAS NAMED SUPERVISOR OF ELEMENTARY EDUCATION , HIS OFFICE WAS WHERE THE CASTLE MONICA HOTEL IS NOW. THAT USED TO BE A COUNTY OFFICE OR SCHOOL BOARD OFFICE. AS A CHILD HE HELPED CLEAN THE OFFICE, THAT BUILDING WITH HIS AUNT WHO WAS A JANITOR FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. ALSO, HIS FIRST JOB OUT OF COLLEGE HE SERVED AS THE MILKMAN HERE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE FLORIDA AND LATER AS A WAITER, SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER THE WINDMILL RESTAURANT WHICH WAS OUT ON THE BEACH . HE WAITED TABLES OUT THERE AND THEN HIS LAST WAITING JOB WAS, HE WAS A WAITER IN FLAGLER AT THE PONCE DE LEON HOTEL WHICH IS NOW FLAGLER COLLEGE OF COURSE. WE WERE HONORED TO HAVE HIS RETIREMENT PROGRAM WHEN HE RETIRED AS SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT IN THE SAME BALLROOM WHERE HE WAITED TABLES. BUT WAS NOT ABLE TO EAT DUE TO THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN. HE HAS LEFT AN AWESOME LEGACY IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE THANK GOD FOR HIM AND FOR ALL OF THOSE HE TOUCHED, FOR THE CHILDREN WHO ATTEND OTIS A.
MASON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. HE TOOK GREAT PRIDE IN GOING OUT TO PRESENT THEIR CERTIFICATE OF GRADUATION AND NOW MY SISTER
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AND I DO IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE HONOR AND THANK YOU MR. DEAN. WE HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER MANY YEARS AND THANK YOU TO THE CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.[Acceptance of Proclamations ]
[Public Safety Update ]
ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATIONS? ALL IN FAVOR? THAT PASSES. TAKES US TO PUBLIC SAFETY UPDATE. GOOD MORNING.>> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. DIRECTOR OF CORRECTIONS ST.
JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. JUST WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THIS IS TEENAGE DATING VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH FOR THOSE IN THOSE SITUATIONS THERE ARE RESOURCES OUT THERE.
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BEING ONE OF THEM. PLEASE REACH OUT IF YOU KNOW ANYONE IN THAT SITUATION, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP THEM OUT. ALSO WE WILL BE DOING FUNDRAISER FOR KIDS TONIGHT ALL PROCEEDS GO TO THE BIG BROTHERS AND BIG SISTERS AND THAT WILL BE AT MOJO'S BARBECUE ONIGHT AT 5:00.
UNTIL 9:00. WE WILL BE OUT DOING THAT. ALSO OPEN ARMS RECOVERY, A NONPROFIT THAT WORKS IN FLAGLER COUNTY, THEY ARE STATE FUNDED, THEY HAVE GREAT SUCCESS DEALING WITH OPIOID ADDICTION IN FLAGLER COUNTY. THEY WILL BE OPENING AN OFFICE, THEY GOT A GRANT TO OPEN AN OFFICE HERE IN MARCH AND THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER TOOL WHERE WE CAN USE THE COUNTY TO COMBAT THE OPIOID CRISIS. ONE LAST THING COUNTY MAINTENANCE WITH THE JAIL THEY HAVE BEEN FABULOUS. WE ARE COMPLETING THE FIRST OR THE THIRD FLOOR , 12 BLOCKS RENOVATING THEM TOTALLY.
PAINTING, FLOORS, BACK TO GREAT WORKING ORDER IF YOU GET A CHANCE COME BY AND SEE IT, THE GEL HOUSES 435, WE EXPECT IT TO STAY THAT LOW FOR SUMMERTIME SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE ALL PROJECTS DONE BY THEN. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
>> YES, YOU KNOW I THOUGHT WHEN YOU DRIVE BY THE JAIL AND YOU SEE ALL THE DOORS THAT GO ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP, EVERYONE ASKS ME WHAT THEY ARE.
>> MAINTENANCE, THAT IS FOR MAINTENANCE. JUST MAINTENANCE ACCESS. IT BLOCKS IT OFF FROM THE INSIDE. SO IT WORKS OUT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT MY WIFE'S FRIENDS ALWAYS HAVE. YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT DAY.
>> GOOD MORNING, ACTING FIRE CHIEF. THIS MORNING I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS FROM OUR DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN A RECENT COMPETITION IN ORLANDO. IN JANUARY FIRE RESCUE SPONSOR TWO TEAMS OF FIREFIGHTERS TO COMPETE IN THE WRITTEN COMPETITION DURING THE ANNUAL FLORIDA FIRE CONFERENCE. RAPID INTERVENTION TEAMS , ESTABLISHED AT EVERY STRUCTURE FIRE SCENE FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF RESCUING FELLOW FIREFIGHTERS. SHOULD THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION THESE TEAMS ACTIVATE AND HELP THEM, THEY TRYING TO SAVE OUR OWN. THIS COMPETITION EVALUATES TEAMS BASED ON SPEED AND ABILITY TO LOCATE AND REMOVE A DOWN FIRE FIRE AND PERFORM LIFE-SAVING MANEUVERS IN A SIMULATED ENVIRONMENT. 19 TEAMS COMPETED IN THIS EVENT AND OF THE 19 ONLY FIVE WERE ABLE TO PASS TO THE FINALS AS PART OF DAY TWO AND BOTH OF OUR TEAMS MOVED ON TO THE FINALS DAY TWO. EXTREMELY PROUD TO ANNOUNCE ONE TEAM PLACED THIRD OVERALL AND ONE TEAM PLACED FIRST OVERALL IN THIS COMPETITION. THANK YOU. THIS IS A TREMENDOUS COMPASS WAY FOR BOTH TEAMS, THEY HAVE DEDICATED TIME AND EFFORTS TO HONING THEIR CRAFT TO HELP OUR OWN WHEN TRAPPED IN A BURNING BUILDING. AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE EACH MEMBER OF THOSE TEAMS, THE THIRD-PLACE TEAM CONSISTED OF NAMES ] THE FIRST TEAM EXCUSE ME THE FIRST PLACE TEAM CONSISTED OF SAY THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY FIRE RESCUE HAS A TOP TEAM IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. REALLY PROUD OF THOSE GUYS FOR WHAT THEY
DID. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> WE ARE PROUD OF THEM, TOO.
[Clerk of Court's Report ]
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>> THAT BRINGS US TO THE CLERK OF COURTS REPORT.
COMMISSIONERS. I AM PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE. THE RIGHT TO A TRIAL BY JURY DECIDED BY FELLOW AMERICAN CITIZENS IS AMONG THE MOST IMPORTANT RIGHTS GUARANTEED TO ALL OF US BY THE U.S. CONSTITUTION. OUR OFFICE PLAYS A KEY ROLE IN THE EXERCISING OF THIS RIGHT BY SUMMONING AND CHECKING IN PROSPECTIVE JURORS . EACH MONTH WE ISSUE ROUGHLY 300 SUMMONS. OUR TEAM ALSO ASSISTS PROSPECTIVE JURORS WITH EXCUSES, EXEMPTIONS, ONLINE REGISTRATION AND COMPENSATION. ADDITIONALLY, THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS WARNING RESIDENTS ABOUT FRAUDULENT PHONE CALLS FROM SCAMMERS CLAIMING TO REPRESENT THE CLERK'S OFFICE OR LAW ENFORCEMENT. IN THIS EVENT, THE SCAMMER CLAIMS THAT THE INDIVIDUAL HAS MISSED JURY DUTY AND MUST MAKE IMMEDIATE PAYMENT TO AVOID ARREST. THE SCAMMER INDICATES THAT A WARRANT HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE RESIDENTS ARREST AND DEMANDS PAYMENT FOR FAILURE TO APPEAR FOR JURY DUTY. WE WANT OUR RESIDENTS TO KNOW THAT FAILURE TO APPEAR FOR JURY DUTY REQUIRES COURT ATTENDANCE BEFORE ANY PENALTIES ARE IMPOSED AS ORDERED BY A JUDGE. IF A ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENT DOES NOT RESPOND TO SUMMONS FOR JURY DUTY, THEY ARE CONTACTED BY AN OFFICIAL LETTER FROM THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT CENTER U.S. POSTAL SERVICE. IF ANY ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENT HAS CAUSE TO BELIEVE THEY ARE A VICTIM OF A JURY DUTY SCAM, WE ADVISE RESIDENTS TO CONTACT OUR JURY COORDINATOR AT 904-819-3629. AND THESE ST.
JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT
PENDING QUESTIONS. >> IS THERE ANY TIME YOU WOULD
CALL SOMEONE AT ALL? >> NOT IF THEY FAIL TO APPEAR .
[Public Infrastructure Update ]
THE ONLY TIME WE WOULD CALL IS IF THEY CALL US FIRST.INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATE. GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING, UTILITIES DIRECTOR. OUR UPDATE WILL FEATURE HASTINGS INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS . AROUND $30 MILLION IS WHAT WE WILL SHARE WITH YOU THIS MORNING. PROJECTS AND UTILITIES, DRAINAGE AND ROADWAYS WITH PUBLIC WORKS, LIBRARY AND WE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO HAVE , WITH US THIS MORNING AND HE WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE RENOVATIONS, THE RESTORATIONS THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD IS
INITIATING. >> COMMISSIONERS WE WANT TO OPEN THIS PRESENTATION TODAY WITH THIS ARTICLE IN HASTINGS THAT WAS POSTED LAST YEAR IN JACKSONVILLE BUSINESS JOURNAL.
THE ARTICLE IS ON WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY DID A GREAT JOB IN SHARING HOW THE UTILITY LAID THE GROUNDWORK FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW WE CAN BUILD ON THAT IN THE COMING YEARS. MY MESSAGE TODAY IS ON SIMILAR GROUNDS. THE ESSENCE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION STARTS WITH INFRASTRUCTURE. WHEN IT COMES TO FOR STRUCTURE DELIVERY, THIS BOARD HAS MADE IT CLEAR, LET'S GET IT DONE . LET'S TALK HASTINGS. TWO OUT OF THE THREE PROJECTS THAT THE BOARD APPROVED THE LAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. ONE OF THEM IS THE $5.7 MILLION WASTEWATER FACILITY THAT YOU ARE PART OF. $2.8 MILLION IN SEWAGE UPGRADES AND LIFT STATIONS, COLLECTION SYSTEMS. THESE PROJECTS ARE PAYING DIVIDENDS AS WE ARE GETTING HUGE DIVIDENDS AND GREATER RETURN ON INVESTMENT SKYROCKETING. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE THIRD PROJECT IS THE HASTINGS ELECTRICAL UPGRADE BUILDINGS WHICH IS ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED THIS YEAR , THIS WILL PROVIDE SAFETY TO STAFF AND PROVIDE CLEAN ENERGY FOR WATER TREATMENT PLANTS AND PROBABLY INCREASE RELIABILITY TO OUR CUSTOMERS. THIS BOARD APPROPRIATED ABOUT 7 MILLION OF THE ARPA FUNDS TO THE UTILITY IN HASTINGS. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE BOARD, TO THANK THE LEGISLATIVE TEAM AND ADMINISTRATION, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CHIPS IN TALLAHASSEE, A LOT OF CONVERSATION WITH CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS AND LEGISLATORS IN WASHINGTON AND THIS CANNOT HAPPEN WITHOUT THAT SO WE APPRECIATE UTILITIES
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AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS TARGETING THIS TO GOOD USE, TARGETING THIS IN THREE AREAS OF OUR BUSINESS. ONE IS FIRE FLOW WHICH WAS ABSOLUTELY NEEDED, ONE IS RELIABILITY AND ONE IS REDUNDANCY. THESE PROJECTS TAKE A LONG TIME, VERY SLOW INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. OUR PLAN IS STRUCTURING AND FEARED WITH THE FIRST BIG IMPACT, IT IS A DIESEL PUMP THAT WILL PROVIDE MODERATE FIRE FLOW TO THE COMMUNITY. WHAT IT DOES, IT INITIATES OPENING THE DOORS TO REVITALIZATION AND THAT IS SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR, THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE A QUICK IMPACT IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR. THE SECOND PROJECTS WHICH WE CALL NORTH AND SOUTH SEGMENTS IS A WATERMAN PROJECT AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE IT IS A 12 INCH MAIN 5000 FEET HEADED TO HASTINGS DOWNTOWN. THE SOUTHERN LEG OF THE PROJECT SEGMENT WILL GO ON GEORGIA MILL ROAD AND IT WILL ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE FIRE FLOW TO THE FCTC BUILDING . THESE ARE TRANSMISSION MAINS AND WE REFER THESE AND IN TRANSPORTATION TERMS IT IS MAJOR HIGHWAYS, THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS THERE IS NO TRAFFIC LOCK SO THE POINT OPTION TWO IS THAT THIS IS A DIRECT CONNECT FIRE FLOW TO THE COMMUNITY THAT NEEDS IT.THE LAST PROJECT IS A LITTLE LARGER. OUR GOAL AND THE AIM WAS TO FIRST DO THE DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT. THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT WITH A GOAL AND AIM TO HAVE A SHOVEL READY PROJECT SO SHOULD FUNDING COME IN THE FUTURE WE CAN JUMPSTART ON THE CONSTRUCTION. AS YOU CAN SEE THE DOTTED LINE, THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT WHICH LOOPS ALL OF HASTINGS AND IT IS PROVIDING RELIABILITY THAT WE NEED. SECOND OF ALL WE CAN ALSO COLLECT WHAT I CALL GROWTH ON THE WAY WHILE THE RELIABILITY IS GOTTEN. THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT $3.1 MILLION ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED IN TWO YEARS OF 2026. IT PROVIDES ANOTHER LEG OF THIS, CURRENTLY WE HAVE ONE TREATMENT SKID AND WE SOMEHOW MAKE IT WORK SO THIS WILL PROVIDE THAT REDUNDANCY WE ARE LOOKING FOR A LIST SYSTEM. IT ALSO HAS 150,000 GALLON STORAGE TANK THAT WOULD PROBABLY ENHANCE OUR FIRE FLOW CAPABILITY AND CAPACITY AT THIS FACILITY TARGETING THE RELIABILITY AND REDUNDANCY. THIS IS NOT ARPA FUNDING. I REALLY LOVE THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I CALL IT A TWO FOR.
THIS PROJECT IS, WE WILL HAVE A NEW ROOF AT THE UTILITY , ONE OF THE OLD UTILITY BUILDINGS WHERE WE PROVIDE EXTERIOR PAINT, PARKING LOTS, SEVEN OF THEM THAT ARE ADA COMPLIANT AND RENOVATING THE BUILDING INSIDE. WHILE WE ARE PROVIDING TRANSIT SPACE FOR THE WORKFORCE IT IS A CREATIVE IDEA TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND SEE IF WE CAN PROVIDE SOME HELP TO THEM AND FOR GATHERING SPACES AND COMMUNITY EVENTS. THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT WHICH WE HAVE COMMENCED, THE ROOF IS COMPLETED AND WE WILL HAVE OTHER AESTHETICS COMING UP AND WE HOPE THIS WILL BE DONE WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. MOVING TO PUBLIC WORKS. IN THE 20 YEARS I HAVE BEEN HERE OR MORE ONE THING I'VE LEARNED FROM THE RESIDENCE OF HASTINGS AND THE FARMERS, THEY LIKE THESE TOURS AND THE REPEAT THREE TIMES. GOOD DRAINAGE, GOOD DRAINAGE AND GOOD DRAINAGE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT PUBLIC WORKS IS TRYING TO DO. 2100 FEET , LINEAR FEET OF ELEVATED ROADWAY WITH NEW DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND IF YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS BIG SEWAGE CHANNEL THIS IS A INFAMOUS PROJECT FOR QUITE A WHILE. THIS BOARD IS SUPPORTING THE BOARD THAT MADE THIS PROJECT HAPPEN FINALLY.
$4.4 MILLION, FUNDING WAS USED FOR THIS PROJECT AND AS I MENTIONED IT REVIEWS FLOODING, PROVIDES STORM WATER SYSTEM WITH ADDITIONAL STORAGE FOR TREATMENT. THE PICTURES PRETTY MUCH TELL US EVERYTHING THAT THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED. THIS IS THE PUBLIC WORKS PAYMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND IT IS COUNTYWIDE. THIS IS A FAIR SHARE FOR HASTINGS. WHAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE ARE TWO METHODOLOGIES. BEFORE I EXPLAINED THAT, PUBLIC WORKS STAFF MONITORS THIS PCI WHICH IS THE PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX AND A NEW ROADWAY , THEY HAVE
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THIS SOPHISTICATED MODEL, THE COST BENEFIT MODEL WHERE THEY LOOK AT WHERE ROADWAYS NEED TO GET THIS. THOSE METHODOLOGIES KIND OF DETERMINE DEPENDING ON WHERE THE PCI IS, THE CONVENTIONAL OVERLAY AND THEN YOU PROVIDE ASPHALT AND IT'S USED FOR HIRE DETERIORATED ROADWAY FROM PCI , THE FULL RECLAMATION IS MORE SOPHISTICATED WITH REALLY GOOD TECHNOLOGY . ITS PRICE IS TWO TIMES OR MORE THE COST BUT IT DOES THE TRICK. ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE YOU CAN SEE THE ROADWAYS THAT WILL BE BENEFITING FROM THIS IMPROVEMENT . $700,000 AND TWO MILES OF ROADWAY THAT WILL IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE . ONE COMPLAINT WE GET IS THE NEW ROADWAYS ARE ESTABLISHED AND PEOPLE SPEED WHICH IS KIND OF FUNNY. COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A PROJECT YOU HAVE ALL BEEN INVOLVED WITH. YOU HAVE BEEN PRESENT AT THE MANY MEETINGS.RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM COMMUNITIES. EVERYONE IS ANTICIPATING THIS GREAT PROJECT OF $6.8 MILLION AND WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. THE BIDS ARE ON TIME, PUBLIC WORKS HAS THIS IN APRIL WITH CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION ANTICIPATED IN AUGUST OF NEXT YEAR. ONE OF THE THINGS AND THE DIRECTOR IS WITH US IN THE MEETING TODAY, THEY HAVE BEEN VERY PROACTIVE , THEY HAVE BEEN PLANNING AHEAD, WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTINUITY OF SERVICES IS THERE FOR RESIDENTS. SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT, WE DON'T KNOW THE DATE YET BUT THEY ANTICIPATE THE DECEMBER TIMEFRAME TO TRANSITION THAT SERVICE FOR THE LIBRARY. COMMISSIONERS, WITH THAT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS I AM HERE, BUT WE HAVE MORNING COMMISSIONERS AND MADAM CHAIR. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY AND TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT HASTINGS HIGH SCHOOL. FIRST OF ALL I WANTED EVERYBODY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY OF HASTINGS IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS RESTORATION OF THE BUILDING , HASTINGS HIGH SCHOOL AND THE BOARD IS EXCITED TO GET STARTED AND PLACE THE ACADEMICS THAT WE NEED IN THERE FOR ADULT EDUCATION, BASICALLY. SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THAT'S THE BUILDING RIGHT THERE. AS YOU CAN SEE VERY OLD, 1924. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE ARCHITECT WHO WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE US THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT AND LEAD US THROUGH THE PROJECT. THE BOARD AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING ON THE 12TH WILL BE VOTING ON THE ARCHITECT SO WE CAN GET STARTED. THEY WILL BE REALLY LOOKING AT THE STRUCTURE, FIRST OF ALL AND THE ENVELOPE OF THE BUILDING AND ALSO THE DRAINAGE UNDER THE BUILDING AND AROUND THE BUILDING. SO THAT'S WHERE WE WILL BEGIN. ON FEBRUARY 20TH I BELIEVE YOU ALL WILL VOTE TO CONVEY THE PROPERTY OVER TO THE SCHOOL BOARD SO THAT WE CAN THEN BEGIN WORK AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT, AS WELL. INSIDE OF THE BUILDING YOU HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE, I BELIEVE. WE HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE PLACE. ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE YOU CAN SEE THE PINK AREA, THAT WILL BE EARLY CHILDHOOD AND IN EARLY CHILDHOOD WE HAVE PRE-K, HEAD START, AND THEN ON THE LEFT SIDE , THE YELLOW CLASSROOMS , THAT WOULD BE ADULT EDUCATION IN THOSE CLASSROOMS. THE LARGE ORANGE AREA IS THE AUDITORIUM. EXCELLENT, WONDERFUL AUDITORIUM THAT WILL BE RESTORED. THE GRAY IS THE STUDENT CENTER AND THE PURPLE AREA NEXT TO THE STUDENT CENTER IS THE KITCHEN. AND THE OTHER PURPLE AREAS ARE MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL ROOMS. THE GREEN BOX AT THE VERY BACK OR AT THE VERY TOP, WE THINK THAT WILL BE CYBER SECURITY. FOR OUR STUDENTS AND THEN WE HAVE A TRAINING LAB IN THE FRONT THAT IS ALSO A GREEN BOX IN THE FRONT. SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED, LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. WE HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE ARCHITECT SO FAR AND STARTING TO GET OURSELVES MOVING FORWARD. LIKE I SAID THE VOTE COMING FROM THE BOARD WILL BE NEXT WEEK AND THEN AFTER THAT WE WILL PUT OUT DATES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY TO GET STARTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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>> THANK YOU, ANY QUESTIONS? I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE HARD WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS WITH INFRASTRUCTURE,
[Legislative Affairs Update ]
LIBRARY AND NOW TO SEE HASTINGS HIGH WILL BE PRESERVED AND REVITALIZED FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF EDUCATION IS VERY EXCITING. SO THANK YOU ALL. THAT BRINGS US TO OURLEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS UPDATE. >> MANAGER I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING ON FEBRUARY 20TH
[Deletions to Consent Agenda ]
AS WE ARE MANAGING VERY DYNAMIC LEGISLATIVE SESSION.WE THINK TWO MORE WEEKS WILL GIVE US MORE TIME.
>> OKAY ABSOLUTELY WE WILL MOVE THAT TO THE 20TH. MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. DELETIONS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA?
COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> I WAS NOT SURE IF JOY WAS
GOING TO REMOVE NUMBER SEVEN. >> YES, THAT WAS MY PLAN.
>> OKAY AND I WOULD LIKE TO PULL NUMBER 13.
>> OKAY. NUMBER SEVEN AND NUMBER 13. SO, NUMBER SEVEN WILL BECOME ONE A. AND THEN NUMBER 13 WILL BECOME ONE B.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER ALAIMO ANY DELETIONS?
>> I HAVE DONE. >> I HAVE KNOWN, COMMISSIONER
>> OKAY GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE WILL NOW HERE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE
>> CALLING ATTENTION TO ITEM 29. CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A EXIT INTERVIEW AND TAKE THIS OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT? IF NOT I AM PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW. IF THERE IS A MOTION I THINK EVERYBODY WILL TALK ABOUT IT. CAN WE TAKE THAT OFF PLEASE? YOU'RE JUST GOING TO LOOK AT ME? OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS QUIT. YOU HAVE IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE? WHY IS IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? WHERE IS THE BACKUP MATERIAL AND WHERE THE DOCUMENTS THAT I REQUESTED TWO MONTHS AGO? TWO MONTHS AGO. WE HAD AN ATTACK BY FOUR COMMISSIONERS ON ONE COMMISSIONER FOR HER FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTED ACTIVITY.
COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS REQUESTED THAT THIS BOARD DO A MEETING AND YOU HAVE NOT SCHEDULED THE MEETING YET, BUT HE HAS QUIT.
SO WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON HERE? WHEN DO WE GET ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS? LIKE THE 104 QUESTIONS THAT I HAD ON THE BUDGET BACK IN SEPTEMBER. NOT ONE ANSWERED. NOT ONE ANSWERED. THE QUESTIONS I ASKED ABOUT EMBEZZLEMENT, ABOUT THE LACK OF INTERNAL CONTROLS, ABOUT THE LACK IN MANAGEMENT.
VIOLATIONS OF FEDERAL AND STATE LAW. SO WE NEED TO HAVE A EXIT INTERVIEW OF ADMINISTRATOR OR COUNTY ATTORNEY QUITS OR NEEDS TO BE A PUBLIC EXIT INTERVIEW. AS I TOLD COMMISSIONER DEAN BEFORE THE MEETING IT'S LIKE RESIDENT WOODROW WILSON SAID ON INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMACY. OPEN COVENANTS OPENLY , WE HAD A PRIOR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WHO QUIT AND ACTUALLY YOU APPROVED A NON- DISPARAGEMENT AGREEMENT WHEREBY ST. JOHNS COUNTY AGREED WITH THE FORMER COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THAT NEITHER WOULD CRITICIZE THE OTHER AND THAT THIS PURPORTEDLY BOUND 1200 OR 1400 COUNTIES , WE GOT REALLY BAD LEGAL ADVICE ON THAT AND OTHER ITEMS FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. WHEN COMMISSIONER JOSEPH WAS SWORN IN AFTER SHE WAS ELECTED BY 175 VOTES IN THE CLOSED REPUBLICAN PRIMARY, WHEN SHE WAS SWORN IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY GAVE A DATE WHEN SHE SHOULD BE SWORN IN.
THE DATE WAS WRONG BECAUSE OCA NEVER LOOKED UP THE LAW. CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A EXIT INTERVIEW AND CAN WE HAVE ANSWERS TO ALL THOSE RECORDS REQUEST THAT ARE STILL PENDING? IT IS OUR MONEY AND WE NEED ANSWERS NOW. THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
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ADDRESS ] I ALSO AM SPEAKING REGARDING ITEM 29. THE FACT THAT THE ATTORNEY IS LEAVING EARLY. FROM THE DOCUMENTATION , THE CONSENT AGENDA AND SUPPORTING ITEMS, I CANNOT TELL IF HE'S QUITTING OR HE IS FIRED, THE LANGUAGE LOOKS , THERE IS SOME AGREEMENT THAT WAS MADE SO, IT LOOKS LIKE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY HE QUIT AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY HE'S FIRED. THE RESULT OF THAT AGREEMENT MADE IS THAT HE WILL COLLECT $100,000 PLUS IN SEVERANCE. NOW IF HE QUIT HE WOULD NOT GET THE MONEY AND IF YOU RELIEVED HIM FOR CAUSE OR MISCONDUCT HE WOULD NOT GET THAT MONEY. WHY IS IT BEING DONE THIS WAY? THIS REALLY NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE, MORE EVERY MONTH THAT ARE VERY CAREFULLY LOOKING THROUGH THIS CONSENT AGENDA TO SEE WHAT YOU ARE HIDING THERE. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT BELONG IN THE CONSENT AGENDA AND IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO SLIDE SOMETHING TO AND IT'S GOING TO COST THE TAXPAYERS OVER $100,000. IT IS WRONG. YOU GUYS THIS IS AN ABUSE OF THE SYSTEM AND WE SEE IT. PLEASE TAKE THIS OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA, THANK YOU. I STILL HAVE ONE MINUTE AND I FORGOT TO SAY SOMETHING. I HAVE ATTORNEY MIGUT CONTRACT. HIS ORIGINAL EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT AND THERE IS LANGUAGE HERE WHICH WAS ALSO IN THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATOR'S CONTRACT, SIMILAR LANGUAGE BUT I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD EVER BE IN ANY EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT THIS COUNTY IS ENGAGED IN AGAIN. AND THIS IS ARTICLE 4, PARAGRAPH THREE . THE PARTY HEREBY ACKNOWLEDGES THE BOARD IS AUTHORIZED TO SUSPEND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WITH FULL PAY.AND BENEFITS OF ANYTIME , THAT'S RIDICULOUS. PLEASE, STRIKE THAT LANGUAGE FROM ANY CONTRACT THAT EVER GOES ON IN THIS COUNTY AGAIN. TAXPAYER MONEY, THAT IS TOTALLY UNREASONABLE. THANK YOU.
ADDRESS ] THE TOPIC OF MY PUBLIC, TODAY IS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY DAVID MIGUT AND HIS UPCOMING DEPARTURE. FIRST, THE TIMELINE, MR. MIGUT BEGAN EMPLOYMENT AS COUNTY ATTORNEY IN FALL OF 2021. BY THE FALL OF 2023 IT APPEARS MR. MIGUT HAD INITIATED JOB-SEARCH IN JANUARY 2024 MR. MIGUT INTERVIEWED WITH THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE BEACH AND PROMOTION OF CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 5TH, 2024 NEGOTIATIONS ENSUED. ON JANUARY 22ND, THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO SELECT MR. MIGUT AS NEXT COUNTY ATTORNEY. IRONICALLY, AND/OR COINCIDENTLY OR MAYBE NOT ST. JOHNS COUNTY DRAFTED A SEPARATION AGREEMENT THE SAME DAY, ENCODING SEVERANCE IN EXCESS OF $80,000 PLUS BENEFITS. ACCORDING TO MERRIAM-WEBSTER DICTIONARY SEVERANCE IS THE ACTUAL PROCESS OF SEVERING, NERDWALLET FURTHER DEFINES OF SEVERANCE PAY AS A LUMP SUM THAT THE EMPLOYER MAY OFFER TO EMPLOYEES WHO WERE TERMINATED FROM THEIR JOBS. NO DOUBT THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF SERVICE TO THE COUNTY HAS BEEN UNENVIABLE, HIS ADVICE FALLING ON DEAF EARS, BEING ASKED BASIC FIRST AMENDMENT 101 QUESTIONS AND BEING PUT ON THE SPOT ROUTINELY, ESPECIALLY WITH ISSUES OF DECORUM AND CENSORSHIP. OF COURSE I WISH MR. MIGUT THE BEST IN HIS ENDEAVORS, BUT I'M UP FOR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT HOW ALL OF THIS UNFOLDED AND WHY. NUMBER ONE, THE DRAFT PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND MR. MIGUT SECTION X 2 STATES IN THE EVENT COUNTY ATTORNEY IS TERMINATED FOR THE BOARD BY REASONS OTHER THAN MISCONDUCT OR CAUSE THE COUNTY AGREES TO PROVIDE COUNTY ATTORNEY SEVERANCE PAY S MR. MIGUT BEING TERMINATED? IF SO, WHY? WAS THE COUNTY AWARE MR. MIGUT WAS OFFERED A NEW JOB AND WOULD LIKELY BE QUITTING ANYWAY? IF HE IS NOT BEING TERMINATED WHY IS THERE SEVERANCE? NUMBER TWO IT IS
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OBVIOUS THE COUNTY WILL NOT HAVE TO UNDERGO A RECRUITMENT PROCESS FOR A NEW COUNTY ATTORNEY , DURING THE PROCESS TO SELECT A NEW COUNTY ADMINISTERED HER I ASKED THE CONSULTANT AND I PARAPHRASE MY OWN COMMENTS, IF THE COUNTY WOULD BE DOING COMPENSATION ANALYSIS, AND THE CONSULTANT INDICATED NO I AM ENCOURAGING AND EMPLOYING YOU TO CONDUCT SALARY AND BENEFITS COMPARISON OF COUNTY SIMILAR TO OURS IN SIZE AND POPULATION TO DETERMINE IF THE CURRENT SALARY PLUS A $700 MONTHLY CAR ALLOWANCE STIPEND IS APPROPRIATE. THIS IS NOT THE PRICE IS RIGHT OR LET'S MAKE A DEAL IT IS REAL MONEY AND WE SHOULD BE IN LINE WITH SIMILAR SITUATED COUNTIES. THANK YOU.CANNOT SAY MUCH MORE THAN WHAT THE LAST THREE SPEAKERS HAVE STATED. WHY IS THIS ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? THAT IS NOT WHERE IT BELONGS. THE OTHER ITEM IS THE ONE WITH PUBLIX , WE ALLOW PUBLIX TO DESTROY WETLANDS AND NOW WE WILL PAY PUBLIX TO MAYBE BRING JOBS TO THE COUNTY? WHY IS THAT ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WHERE WE ARE GOING TO SPEND CLOSE TO $6 MILLION? WHY? THAT SHOULD BE A REGULAR ITEM. THANK YOU.
ADDRESS ] I WILL CONTINUE MS. EVANS PROPOSAL AND ASK TO PLEASE REMOVE THIS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE COUNTY WERE PAID AT LEAST 175,000 AND SEVERANCE PACKAGES FOR TWO EMPLOYEES IN THE PAST SEVEN AND HALF MONTHS AS PART OF THE COMPARISON PROCESS THAT I REFERENCED, IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO DETERMINE IF SEVERANCE IS A COMMON PROVISION IN CONTRACTS FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, ADMINISTRATOR AND OTHERS. IF THIS PROVISION IS NOT NEEDED, GET RID OF IT OR SHORTEN IT.
THE PROVISION IS THE MOST CURRENTLY ALLOWED BY THE STATUTE AND WHY IS THAT? AT LEAST ONE COMMISSIONER HAS SAID I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT TAX DOLLARS. IF THAT IS IN ANY WAY TRUE, THEN TAKE THE TIME TO RESEARCH THIS ISSUE AND SHIELD THE COUNTY FROM PAYING SEVERANCE PACKAGES THAT SEEM VERY EXCESSIVE. OTHERWISE PERHAPS THE PASSION IS WITH SPENDING OUR TAX DOLLARS WHICH IS WHAT HAS BEEN DONE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH ALL THE FIRINGS, TERMINATIONS, RESIGNATIONS AND LAWSUITS, THE COURT OF CLARK WITH SUE DID WE SETTLE THAT WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS, WE DON'T KNOW. HE WAS SUED FOR WRONGFUL TERMINATION OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL , CONRAD HUNTER EVERYBODY AND NOW MR. MIGUT, NO OFFENSE TO HIM BUT THOSE ARE NICE SEVERANCE PACKAGES THAT WE ARE PROVIDING AS TAXPAYERS.
SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 29. EXHIBIT A, B ONE STATES THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WILL RECEIVE 20 WEEKS OF COMPENSATION WHICH ARE SUMS HE WOULD NOT, HE WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE ENTITLED. QUESTION, YOU HEARD IT ALREADY, WHAT IS THIS AMOUNT? RESOLUTION STATE SEPARATION FOR REASON OTHER THAN MISCONDUCT, QUESTION WHAT WERE THE REASONS QUESTION, WHO WROTE THE RESOLUTION SEPARATION AGREEMENT AND GENERAL RELEASE. QUESTION, HOW MUCH IS THIS SEPARATION COSTING TAXPAYERS? QUESTION WHO WILL BE ACTING COUNTY ATTORNEY ON FEBRUARY 9TH, 2024. MY CONCERN , I'M NOT A LAWYER, I'M JUST SPEAKING AS A TAXPAYER.
CLEARLY I THINK. THIS IS NOT TRANSPARENCY. TO THE PEOPLE THAT YOU WORK FOR, US, THE TAXPAYERS. TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE, WHAT'S GOING ON. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM US BUT WE STILL GET TO TALK. ALSO LETS BRING IT UP FOR TRANSPARENCY.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHO IS SITTING DOWN WITH THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATOR , MR. ANDERS AND WHO IS WRITING THE CONTRACT WITH HER? THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN DONE. IT WAS HANDED OFF ON
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NOVEMBER 21ST IF I AM CORRECT AND AS FAR AS I KNOW THE CONTRACT HAS NOT BEEN WRITTEN. IF IT HAS BEEN WE NEED TO KNOW AND WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THAT'S GOING TO COST IF SHE DOES NOT STAY. THE QUESTIONS THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE PRODUCT TODAY ARE VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT TO US AS TAXPAYERS. YOU MAY NOT THINK IT IS AND YOU MAY THINK WE HAVE ALL THIS MONEY TO SPEND ANY WAY WE WANT, BUT YOU OWE US TAXPAYERS AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS COUNTY GOVERNMENT. IT IS NOT FOR THE BENEFIT OF US, THE TAXPAYERS WHEN YOU HIDE INFORMATION THAT SHOULD BE STATED AND PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY ON THE REGULAR AGENDA INSTEAD OF SPENDING TWO HOURS LISTENING TO DEVELOPERS COME IN HERE AND WANT TO WAIVE THIS OR LET'S DO THIS OVER, I DON'T LIKE THE RESULT OF THIS BOARD. WE NEED TO HAVE SOME ANSWERS FROM YOU ALL, THANK YOU.ARTICLE POSTED ON THE FRONT PAGE AND THERE WAS A GREAT QUOTE THAT I TOOK OUT OF IT. IT SAYS WE ARE PURPOSEFUL AND PRUDENT IN PRESERVING OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS. END QUOTE, THAT'S WHAT IT IS, TAXPAYER DOLLARS. LIKE THE PUBLIC'S THAT CHUCK BROUGHT UP. WHY DO THEY NEED A COMPANY ? LOOK IT UP, THEIR WORTH AROUND 25 TO 30 $25-$30 BILLION. AND NOT GOING TO GET THE TAXPAYER MONEY. TO GET IT BUILT EVEN THOUGH IT IS A PHARMACEUTICAL DISTRIBUTION POINT , SOMETHING TO THAT EXTENT, HOW MUCH WOULD $5.8 MILLION DUE TO THE COUNTY THAT IS PURPOSEFUL AND PRUDENT IN PRESERVING OUR TAXPAYER'S DOLLARS. OKAY? THERE IS ALL OF THOSE SMALLER ENTITIES THAT COME UP AND REQUEST THE FUNDING FROM STATE THAT GETS OVERLOOKED BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ONE OF THE TOP 10 THAT GETS UP AND GIVES THEIR SPIEL AND ALL THE ATTENTION IS TOWARD THEM. IT IS THE ONES IN THE LATTER PART OF IT. IF THERE IS SINGLE WIVES OR SINGLE PARENTS WHO IS TRYING TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN, THEY ARE HAVING ISSUES. IF THERE IS DRUG PROBLEMS, IF THERE IS EDUCATIONAL PROBLEMS, TAKE THE MONEY FROM THE BILLION-DOLLAR ENTITY AND USE IT IN THAT SENSE. YES, USE IT IN THAT SENSE. ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE COMMISSIONER WHO DID PERSONALLY EMAIL ME BACK IN REFERENCE TO THE ABC LIQUOR STORE ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THE PZA WITH A SPLIT VOTE THEY HAVE DECIDED IT WAS GOING TO COME HERE, BUT I WILL SAY THAT SOMEBODY IN SOME OFFICE UPDATED THE DEVELOPMENT TRACKER BY TAKING THAT OFF. NOW THIS MAY NOT BE THE SAME PERSON BECAUSE AT THE INTERSECTION OF IDP AND 16 THERE IS STILL A WAWA THAT GOES IN THERE WHICH WAS TWO YEARS AGO. WHEN DOES THAT GET UPDATED? LET'S USE TAXPAYER MONEY TO GET THAT UPDATED. THANK YOU.
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COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSEPUBLIC COMMENT. >> MANAGER I WILL MOVE THE
CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
[Additions/Deletions to Regular Agenda ]
SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.
THAT PASSES 4-1. MOVING ON REGULAR AGENDA. ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS COMMISSIONER JOSEPH?
>> NO MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER ALAIMO
>> I HAVE NONE >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST
>> I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ITEMS TWO AND THREE. I DON'T KNOW IF
WE HANDLE THAT NOW . >> I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS
NUMBER TWO. >> OKAY, THAT WAS MY ONLY
>> I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT ON ITEM 2 THE APPLICANT ATTORNEY
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CONTACTED STAFF AND ME YESTERDAY AND INDICATED HE WAS GOING TO ASK US TO DO , TO WITHDRAW THE ITEM. I THINK WE CAN TAKE IT UP AS TWO. WE ONLY HAVE ITEM ONE IN FRONT OF IT AND HE IS HERE. SO I WANTED YOU TO KNOW THE ATTORNEY WILL REQUEST WITHDRAWAL WE CAN DO THAT AS ITEM 2 WHEN IT COMES UP, OTHERWISE I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I DON'T HAVE ANYITEMS. >> SO IT IS YOUR DESIRE TO LEAVE IT ON UNTIL THEY PRESENT?
>> OKAY LEGAL IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU?
>> THAT'S OKAY. I WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT THE AGENDA ITEM 3 , THEY HAVE ALSO REQUESTED CONTINUANCE ON THAT MATTER AND IT IS APPROPRIATE TO EITHER DO WITH THEM HERE AND GRAND BOTH CONTINUANCES HERE WHEN YOU SET THE AGENDA OR TO TAKE THEM UP ON THEIR POSITION AT THE AGENDA THAT'S
YOUR CHOICE. >> I AM INCLINED FOR EXPEDIENCE TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE OF IT HERE AND GRANT BOTH CONTINUANCES. ARE WE ALL IN AGREEMENT? OKAY. ITEM NUMBER TWO AS WELL AS ITEM NUMBER THREE WILL CONTINUE TO A TIME UNCERTAIN OR TIME CERTAIN? FEBRUARY 20TH?
>> ANY OF THE APPLICANTS HAVE REQUEST FOR CERTAIN IF NOT
WE WILL ADVERTISE AT A TIME. >> WE WOULD BE FINE WITH THE DATE FEBRUARY 20TH OR 28TH ON MARCH 1ST, WHATEVER IT IS.
GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR. WE JUST RECEIVED THE , WE WERE WAITING ON A PIECE OF ENGINEERING FOR THE ROUNDABOUT , IF WE COULD IF I COULD CHECK WITH STAFF BRIEFLY TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ENOUGH ADDED TIME TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET A GOOD REVIEW BEFORE WE SET THE DATE .
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> OKAY SO THEN ITEM NUMBER
THREE. >> WE DO NEED A MOTION, TO GRANT THE CONINUANCE. THAT NEEDS TO BE ON THE RECORD.
>> I MOVED TO CONTINUE ITEM 2 AT A TIME SUBJECT FOR STAFF
RECOMMENDATION . >> I WILL SECOND.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE TO THE FEBRUARY 20TH MEETING AS
REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT. >> SECOND.
>> MOTION AND SECOND. >> POINT OF INFORMATION THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE THE ITEMS CONFUSED. MR. BURNETT REPRESENTS THE ITEM 2 THAT'S THE ITEM STAFF REQUESTED SOME EXTRA TIME TO CONFRM IF THEY WERE OKAY, ITEM 3 IS THE ONE , I THINK THEY DO NOT CARE WHEN IT GETS RESET.
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON FEBRUARY 20TH, APPLICANT IS FEBRUARY 20TH THE
CORRECT. >> IS THAT A LITTLE BETTER? I AM UNDER THE WEATHER TODAY SO MY VOICE IS LIMITED. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW. IS FEBRUARY 20TH THE BEST DATE?
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A DATE CERTAIN IN THE MOTION FOR THIS ITEM AND THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT ON THE RECORD TIME SERVED , BEFORE NUMBER TWO ITEM.
>> WELL, I AM TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE MR. ROBERSON. YOU HEARD HIM SPEAK EARLIER THAT AGREED TO HAVE A VERY 20TH AND HE POINTED OUT STAFF MAY NOT BE READY ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT, SO MY MOTION IS FEBRUARY 20TH OR LATER IF THE STAFF RECOMMENDS A LATER DAY AND THAT HAS BEEN THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONERS. IF WE CAN PUSH IT TO THE FIRST DATE IN MARCH THAT WOULD GIVE AMPLE TIME AND IF THE APPLICANT MR. BURNETT .
MARCH 5TH FOR THE ITEM. >> SECOND.
>> PLEASE VOTE. 5-0. IT PASSES.
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>> I WILL TRY TO MAKE THE MOTION AGAIN FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE. LIKE TO MOVE TO MOVE THAT ITEM TO THE FEBRUARY 20TH AGENDA , WHEREVER IT HAPPENS TO FIT IN FEBRUARY
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20TH. THAT'S MY MOTION. >> SECOND.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0 , THANK
YOU BOTH. >> DO WE NOW HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED?
>> SO MOVED. >> MADAM CHAIR WE HAVE PULLED CONSENT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN FOR IT TO BE BROUGHT BACK AT A LATER DATE FOR BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED WITH SOME EMPLOYMENT, WE DO HAVE ITEMS FOR REQUESTING THE BOARD CONSIDERATION INCLUDING THE USE AGREEMENT FOR REMOVAL OF VESSELS THE TIMELINE IS VERY LIMITED THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO ASK FOR THIS CONSIDERATION TODAY.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE THAT AS ITEM 1 C?
>> THAT WOULD BE FINE. >> THANK YOU. OKAY MOTION TO
APPROVE AGENDA AS AMENDED? >> SECOND.
[1. Public Hearing * LMA 2023-02 165 Vilano Road. Request for a local landmark designation of the structure located at 165 Vilano Road in Vilano Beach pursuant to Section 3.01.03. of the Land Development Code ]
>> PLEASE VOTE. 50 -- 5-0. THANK YOU EVERYONE. THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.
COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> NO MEETINGS.
>> COMMISSIONER ALAIMO. >> NON-.
>> MEETING JANUARY 31ST 11:00 A.M. WITH LESLEE KEYS AND STAFF WE DISCUSSED HISTORY OF THE BUILDING AND THE FUTURE. AND WITH THE HOPES ARE TO PRESERVE IT. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.
>> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> MEETING ON WEDNESDAY JANUARY 31ST AT 11:30 WITH LESLEE KEYS AND THE DESIGNER ARCHITECT OF THE RESTAURANT THAT WOULD BE THE RESTORED RESTAURANT.
YOURS. >> THANK YOU. DR. LESLEE KEYS SAINT AUGUSTINE , FLORIDA. I ALSO WANT TO START OUT I REALLY NEED TO THANK THE FAMILY FOR THIS. CYNTHIA AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER ALMOST 30 YEARS AND SHE IS THE OLDEST DAUGHTER IN THE FAMILY AND THIS INSPIRED HER TO PULL OUT MORE PICTURES AND FAMILY HISTORY THAN I COULD POSSIBLY USE, BUT IT HAS BEEN A GREAT PROJECT. ALSO PULLING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER REALLY WELL. HISTORIC PHOTOGRAPHS THANKS TO HER. AND MOM AND DAD'S WEDDING PICTURE. BUSINESS CARD AND THEN IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS AND HOPEFULLY SOME OF YOU WHO HAVE LIVED HERE FOR A LONG TIME WERE ABLE TO EAT AT THE RESTAURANT.
IN VILLANO BEACH THE FIRST ITALIAN RESTAURANT IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY HAVE OPERATED SINCE 1946 WITH THE ORIGINAL LOCATION ON SAN MARCO DESTROYED BY A HURRICANE.'S WE ARE GLAD THEY FOUND A NEW HOME AT THE BEACH. AND ARE THRILLED TO SEE THE FAMILY IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT. YOU ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR AT THE BASE OF THE VILLANO BEACH BRIDGE THERE IS A PLAQUE HONORING THE FAMILY. HISTORIC PHOTOGRAPH AGAIN THANKS TO CYNTHIA. WAS INCLUDED IN THE STATE STUDY THAT WAS DONE THANKS TO YOU ARE WORKING ON THAT IN 2022 THAT LOOKED AT LANDMARKS THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE SOUTH BEACH AND VILLANO BEACH AND I PULLED THE 1940 MAP THAT I THOUGHT WAS KIND OF FUN TO LET YOU SEE THE PERSPECTIVE ON OUR BEACH COMMUNITY. THIS IS AT THE END OF THE DEPRESSION, THIS TRY TO JUMPSTART THE ECONOMY IN THE REGION ONCE AGAIN. CURRENT PHOTOGRAPHS. IF YOU HAD ANY DOUBTS WHAT HURRICANES CAN DO, WE HAVE SHORT MEMORIES, BUT HOPEFULLY MATTHEW FROM 2016 AND IRMA FROM 2016 ARE RELEVAN ENOUGH, THIS IS WHAT TOOK A RESTAURANT THAT HAD BEEN OUT OF THE FAMILY FOR A DECADE, TRY TO OPERATE UNDER A FEW OTHER BUSINESSES THAT DID NOT QUITE SURVIVE AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW. SO, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION. THIS IS LOOKING IN, THE DINING ROOM IS WHAT YOU SEE, THE BUILDING HAS A SMALL BACKYARD TO THE IMMEDIATE EAST
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ARE THE TOWNHOUSES CONSTRUCTED AND INCREASES VILLANO ROAD FOR THE TOWN CENTER. FRONT OF THE BUILDING, AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THE CLOSE-UP SHOT. THIS IS ON THE EAST AND THE INCOMPATIBLE GARAGE ADDITION WHICH HAS NO HISTORIC CHARACTERS. AERIAL SHOT OF THE PROPERTY. THE LANDSCAPE DESIGNER FOR THE TOWN CENTER IS THE PERSON DOING THE PROJECT. INSIDE , NEEDS TO MEET CODES ALL THE WAY AROUND AND ADA COMPLIANCE. THE NEW OWNERS OF FAMILY OWN AND LIVE AT VILLANO BEACH ARE NOT GOING TO TRY TO DO THIS IN THE INTERIOR OF THE HISTORIC BUILDING THAT WILL BE DONE IN A COMPATIBLE PIECE ADDED TO THE BACK. THIS IS THE CURRENT PHOTOGRAPHS. AND THEN UNDER YOUR CODE TO BECOME A LANDMARK THE LAND MUST BE 50 YEARS OLD.NOT A PROBLEM THERE. IT MUST MEET AT LEAST TWO CRITERIA, THESE ARE THE TWO WHICH YOU SYMPATHIZE A TREND IN SOCIAL ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA OR THE NATION. IT DOES MEET SOCIAL AND CULTURAL TO DEVELOP BEACHFRONT ENCLAVES, A RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ENCLAVE AT THE NORTH INLET EAST OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, OTHER CRITERION IS THAT IT EMBODIES CHARACTERISTICS OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND PERIOD OR METHOD OF CONSTRUCTION IN THIS CASE THE ART, DERIVATION TO THIS RARE EXTENT AN EXAMPLE OF THAT STYLE AND COMMUNITY.
DESIGNATION TO COUNTY LANDMARK. LOCATION, DESIGN, SETTING, MATERIALS AND IT FEELS LIKE A HISTORIC ART BUILDING . IT STILL COMMUNICATES THAT AESTHETICALLY. IF YOU LOOK AT IT. THIS IS THE NEW , FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT PASSED IN 1966 GIVING US STANDARDS BY WHICH WE APPLY THROUGH THE UNITED STATES ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO WITH DISASTER ESPECIALLY WATER RELATED DISASTER THEY HAVE ADDED RESILIENCE MEASURES SO WE INCORPORATED BOTH OF THOSE INTO THIS DESIGN. YOU STILL HAVE THE ORIGINAL BUILDING UP FRONT WHICH WILL HAVE A DOORJAMB TO RELOCATE THE ENTRANCE OFF ON THE DIAGONAL SO IT'S STRONGER TO WITHSTAND STORMS WITH THE DOOR DAMS AND HURRICANE RESILIENT WINDOWS AND THEN ALL THE UTILITIES WILL BE UP AND RAISED. YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE ADDED A SECTION ON THE BACK , THAT'S WHERE THE KITCHEN AND OFFICES WITH ADA COMPLIANT BATHROOMS AT THAT TIME WILL BE THE FOCUS AND IT WILL BE OFF THE CAFE . THAT IS IT . HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> WE WILL NOW OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. IF THERE'S ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE COME FORWARD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
NAME AND ADDRESS ] THIS PROJECT FIRST CAME TO US AS VILLANO BEACH MAIN STREET BOARD MEETING WE HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPERS AND THE OWNERS OF THE RESTAURANT, THEY CAME BACK AND MADE MODIFICATIONS, CAME BACK TO A WELL INTENDED COMMUNITY MEETING WITH A PRESENTATION THAT WAS OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVELY ACCEPTED. IT CAME BEFORE THE NORTH COASTAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND IT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. ANYTHING THAT IS DEVELOPED IN VILLANO THERE IS A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE QUARTER-MILE. WE TRY TO STICK TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND KEEP IT ART DECO AND KEEP THE VERNACULAR THE BEST WE CAN. WE HAVE THREE CULTURALLY SIGNIFICANT LANDMARKS NOW WITH BLUEBIRD, WE HAVE THE SIGN AND MAGIC BEACH MOTEL.
ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO PRESERVE A PIECE OF HISTORY IN VILLANO WE ARE ALL FOR IT. SUCH AN ICONIC BUILDING. STILL LIVING BEHIND THE BUILDING SO WE ARE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS AND WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF, WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A TWO-STORY MODERN, WE WOULD LIKE IT TO STAY AS IS AND THEY ARE VERY FAMILY ORIENTED PEOPLE,
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THIS WOULD BE A FAMILY ORIENTED RESTAURANT. I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AS ALWAYS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF YOU HAVE ANYQUESTIONS FOR ME. OKAY. >> THANK YOU, LINDA.
BROWNING. I WAS THE FIRST CHAIR IN 20 PLUS YEARS WORKING ON THE VILLANO TOWNCENTER. NOW I AM WORKING ON EDUCATING THE LOCALS, THE BUSINESS OWNERS WITH MY EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND AND COUNTY STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS WHO WANT TO SEE US SUCCEED AND BE A SHINING STAR FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY.
WHAT WE HAVE TRIED TO DO IN VILLANO 'S ADOPT A PLAN CALLED THE TOWNCENTER WHICH IS IN THE STATE GROWTH MANAGEMENT STATUTES THAT WAS PUT IN AROUND 1985 AND I WAS AWARE OF THIS AND I STARTED OWNING PROPERTY AND OWNING IN VILLANO IN THE 1980S. SO REGARDING THIS REGARDING 165 VILLANO ROAD THAT IS ONE PARCEL IN THE TOWNCENTER , BUT IT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT IN THAT IT HAS BEEN ABLE TO PULL THROUGH FROM THE 1950S UNTIL RECENTLY WHEN IT CLOSED . SO, AND IT IS A SMALL BUILDING ON A SMALL LOT , AS YOU CAN SEE. IT MEANS A LOT, IT MAY BE VACANT NOW, BUT THE MEMORIES ARE STILL THERE.
THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE THAT USED THE CAR RIDE OVER WHERE THE OLD BRIDGE IS, OUT FOR AN ITALIAN DINNER. IT IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD THE DATE NIGHT RESTAURANT OF SAINT AUGUSTINE. AS LINDA MENTIONED, THERE IS THE BARRANCOTTO FAMILY WHO STILL HAS PART OF THE FAMILY , SAM AND LORI LIVE ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING. SO IT WOULD MEAN A LOT TO US WHO HAVE WORKED ON TRYING TO MAKE VILLANO A WALKABLE AND LIVABLE QUALITY-OF-LIFE LOCATION, WE THINK THIS FAMILY HAS SHOWN THAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO A GOOD JOB AND PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE AN ATTRIBUTE.
THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE THIS BUILDING IS TO MAKE IT A HISTORIC BUILDING BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED FROM THE PLANT .
NOW I WANT TO MENTION THIS IN MY COUPLE SECONDS LEFT. OUR PLAT STARTED IN 1927 AND THE NAME VILANO WENT ON THE CLERK OF THE COURT RECORDS. IT WILL BE 100 YEARS OLD IN THREE YEARS. SO THAT WILL BE A WONDERFUL TIME TO HAVE THIS BUILDING AS A HISTORIC BUILDING AND BE IN USE AT THAT TIME, IT WOULD BE VERY SIGNIFICANT TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO I AM ASKING THAT YOU DO PASS THIS AND SUPPORT IT. IF YOU DO THAT, WE WILL SUPPORT IT BY BEING GOOD CUSTOMERS, THANK YOU.
ADDRESS ] THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING VILLANO BEACH IN A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION ON HASTINGS INFRASTRUCTURE IN FUSION. THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF GREAT PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS IN BOTH COMMUNITIES. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE THRIVING BILL ON A BEACH. WE ARE WORKING SINCERELY TO BRING MORE DESIGNATIONS TO THE HASTINGS AREA. IN RELATION TO VILLANO BEACH, A SURVEY WAS CONDUCTED IN 2022 AND IT WAS A WONDERFUL SURVEY WHICH INDICATED THERE'S A LOT TO RECOGNIZE AND VALUE WITH HISTORIC MARKERS AND PRESERVATION ACTIVITIES AND THAT SURVEY WILL HOPEFULLY BE EXPANDED TO THE GREATER VILLANO BEACH AREA. IT WAS RESTRICTED TO THE A1 A CORRIDOR AND AM FAMILIAR WITH THE CORRIDOR FROM FLAGLER TO PONTEVEDRA AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OLD STRUCTURES THAT NEED RECOGNIZING AND SAVING AND
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WE JUST NEED TO BE AWARE OF WHERE THEY ARE AND HOW WE CAN GO ABOUT BEST PRESERVING THOSE. AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT. ALL THE COMMUNITIES AND FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.COMMENT ON THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE? SEEING NONE WE
WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THAT BRINGS US BACK TO THE
BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. >> IF THERE IS NOT DISCUSSION I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. I WANT TO MAKE A VERY QUICK INTRO 30 SECONDS . SITTING HERE AS COMMISSIONER IT DAWNED ON ME , I KNEW ABOUT IT BUT IT REALLY HIT HOME THAT SO MANY GOOD THINGS ARE GOING ON NOT ONLY VILLANO BEACH , BUT ALSO HASTINGS AND WEST AUGUSTINE. IF WE HEARD FROM TWO OR THREE GROUPS WHILE ALL THREE ACTUALLY AND I COULD NOT BE MORE PROUD OF OUR CITIZENS, OUR VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE TAKEN IT UP FOR THESE THREE AREAS THAT DESPERATELY NEED LEADERSHIP AND THEY HAVE RECEIVED IT FROM COMMUNITY LEADERS AND I HAD TO MAKE THAT COMMENT. SO WITH THAT SAID. I WILL MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2024 20 2457 IMPROVING APPLICATION DESIGNATING STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 165 VILLANO ROAD AS A LOCAL LANDMARK BASED UPON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AND ONE CONDITION AS PROVIDED IN THE
[7. Motion to adopt Resolution 2024-________, approving a Non-Exclusive Permissive Use Agreement form and authorizing the County Administrator, or designee, to execute the form as needed without further board action. For more information, contact Corey Bowens, Director, Land Management Systems at 904 209-0776 ]
>> MOTION AND SECOND WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION PLEASE VOTE.
THAT PASSES 5-0. CONGRATULATIONS. THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM 1-A FORMALLY CONSENT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
MADAM CHAIR. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. WELL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE ITEM THAT WAS PULLED?
>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> I READ THIS, AS IT NOT COMING IN FRONT OF THE BOARD FOR THE NON-EXCLUSIVE PERMISSIVE USE AGREEMENT. MY CONCERN IS THAT IT WILL BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AND WE NEED MORE PARAMETERS LIKE HOW LONG THIS CAN TAKE OR YOU COULD HAVE SOMEBODY SET UP FOR MAYBE THREE MONTHS OR FOUR MONTHS. I JUST THINK THAT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS SHOULD AT LEAST COME BEFORE THE BOARD IF IT IS A
LONG OR HAVE PARAMETERS. >> YES, I UNDERSTAND. THE INTENT IS FOR LIKE CITY CONTRACTORS , DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS WITH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, SOMETIMES HAVE TIME CERTAIN ACTIVITIES THAT IN ORDER FOR THEM TO START WORK OR CONSTRUCTION, BUT AFTER NORMALLY WAIT A FEW WEEKS. 4 TO 6 WEEKS AND STAFF USUALLY HAS TROUBLE TRYING TO COORDINATE THE EFFORTS. YOUR COMMENTS ARE TAKEN AND IF THE BOARD DECIDES WE CAN TAKE IT BACK AND ADD EXTRA LANGUAGE TO MAKE
IT TIGHT, . >> THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. NOT SURE IF THE REST OF THEM FEEL THAT WAY.
>> THROUGH MADAM CHAIR COMMISSIONER JOSEPH I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION. WHEN YOU ASK IF I WAS PLANNING TO PULL IT IT WAS MY INTENTION TO PULL FOR FUTURE DATE. I THINK THE FEEDBACK IS VALID SO WE WOULD LIKE TO REEVALUATE THE PARAMETER OF THE PERMISSIVE USE AGREEMENT AUTHORITY TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO OPPORTUNITY FOR ABUSE. WE WILL ASK TO PULL THIS ITEM TO A FUTURE DATE. IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE BOARD.
>> PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THAT? >> A MOTION IS NOT NECESSARY
[13. Motion to approve the re-appropriation of funds within the Utilities operating budgets and associated transfers per the attached budget transfer forms. For more information, contact Neal Shinkre, P.E., Utility Director at 904 209-2721 ]
SO PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT NECESSARY IF THERE IS CONSENT TO PULL AND TAKE NO ACTION. NOW STAFF HAS DIRECTION TO BRING ITBACK FOR THE FUTURE. >> THANK YOU.
CONSENT 13. WELCOME BACK. >> COMMISSIONERS AND MADAM CHAIR. GOOD MORNING. HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
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>> I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS I'VE SEEN ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. I THINK YOU SHOULD DESCRIBE WHAT THIS IS AND HOW GREAT YOU ARE TAKING CARE OF TAXPAYER MONEY, AS WELL AS FUTURE BUDGET AND I FEEL LIKE COMMISSIONER DEAN HAD POSITIVE ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COUNTY AND YOU DO TOO. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU HERE IT.
>> REALLY APPRECIATE THE KIND WORDS AND COMMENTS. THE ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS REALLY , IT TACKLES THREE THINGS, MOVING MONEY INTERNALLY AND I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLAUD STAFF. ESPECIALLY ON THE BUDGET SIDE IN THE BUDGET OFFICE, THEY WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NO NET CHANGE IN THE BUDGET. THERE IS NO NET CHANGE IN THE BUDGET AND WE FOUND FUNDS WITHIN THE BUDGET WITH SAVINGS FROM OTHER AREAS TO PUT IT TO THE RIGHT PURPOSE AND THERE ARE THREE TARGETS. ONE IS THE CAREER PATH WE HAVE INITIATED LAST YEAR AND I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, SECOND IS THE STAFF ASSIGNMENT AND THIRD IS A SMALL MINOR REORGANIZATION THAT WILL PROVIDE A LOT OF DIVIDENDS IN THE FUTURE FOR UTILITY CUSTOMER SAVINGS. CAREER PATH IS DECREE, 3 TO 5 YEARS LOSING A LOT OF OPERATORS IN THE STAFF TO NEIGHBORING UTILITIES AND IN CLAY COUNTY IN PARTICULAR WE WERE WAY BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL. THIS PATH SUPPORTED BY ADMINISTRATION ALLOWED US TO TRY IT AT A COUPLE DIVISIONS AND IT WAS A MAJOR HIT. WE HAD ALMOST 0 TURNOVER AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS EXPAND TO ALL OVER UTILITY. WE ARE EXCITED, IT PROVIDES STAFF TRAINING AND RETENTION, DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH FOR STAFF AND WHAT WE GET IN RETURN IS HIGHLY TRAINED AND HIGHLY TECHNICAL, HIGHLY PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT HAVE A PURPOSE SO THEY CAN FOLLOW A PATH OF LEADERSHIP. WE ARE EXCITED, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS THIS MORNING AND WITH MORE QUESTIONS I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER SPECIFICS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> ANY OF THE QUESTIONS? DO WE
HAVE A MOTION? >> I WILL MOVE WHAT IS IT NOW?
1 B I WILL MOVE 1 B. >> SECOND.
>> OKAY FOR THE DISCUSSION OR PUBLIC COMMENT?
>> WE WILL NOW HERE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA ITEM 1 B.
SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> BACK TO THE BOARD A MOTION AND SECOND , PLEASE VOTE. THAT
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PASSES 5-0. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO WHICH HAS BEEN CONTINUED.AGENDA ITEM 3 ALSO CONTINUED. NOW AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
SORRY. MY APOLOGIES. A LOT OF HOUSEKEEPING I APOLOGIZE. WE HAVE 1 C AS WELL. WELCOME BACK.
>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR ALSO HAVE ITEM FOLDER SEEKING APPROVAL OF A NONEXCLUSIVE PERMISSION USE AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF RECREATION CONTRACTOR TO USE COUNTY PROPERTY TO REMOVE , I AM HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY LET'S HERE PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> OKAY WE WILL NOW HERE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 C. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE PUBLIC, PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT .
[4. Request for Reconsideration or Waiver of One -Year Time Limit to Reapply for the Deer Run Road PUD 2023-05. PUD 2023-05 Deer Run PUD was heard by the Board of County Commissioners on September 19, 2023, and was denied 5-0. The PUD proposed 26 duplexes for a total of 52 dwelling units and is located off Deer Run and Fazio Roads. The applicant is requesting the Commission reconsider the vote or provide a waiver to Land Development Code (LDC) Section 9.04.05.B, as provided in LDC Section 9.04.05.C. Land Development Code Section 9.04.05.B states: Re-Application After Denial of Rezoning. Whenever the Board of County Commissioners has denied an application for the rezoning of land, no further application shall be filed for the same rezoning category of any part, or all of the same land for a period of one (1) year from the date of such action. In the event that two (2) or more applications for the same rezoning for any part or all of the same land has been denied, no further application shall be filed for the same rezoning category of any part or all of the same land for a period of two (2) years from the date of such action denying the last application filed. Section 9.04.04.C. allows for a waiver of the above time limits and states: The time limits in Sections 9.04.05.A. and 9.04.05.B. above may be waived by the affirmative vote of a majority of the Board of County Commissioners when such action is deemed necessary to prevent injustice or to facilitate proper development of the County. ]
>> BRINGS US BACK TO THE BOARD, QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION OR
>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND SECOND, NO FURTHER DISCUSSION PLEASE VOTE, THAT PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU SO MUCH. NOW WE MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4. MR. BURNETT.
>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. DOUG BURNETT ST. JOHNS LAW GROUP FROM SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. HERE TODAY TO REQUEST THE BOARD WAIVE THE ONE-YEAR LIMITATION ON A PROJECT THE DEER RUN ROAD PUD AND I THINK TO SET THE STAGE
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SO YOU CAN FULLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT. SO OFTEN WE ARE LOOKING AT PROJECTS WHERE THERE IS A QUICK BUCK TO BE MADE AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. WE ARE IN A CAPITALIST SOCIETY. THIS IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS WHERE SOMETIMES IN THE HUSTLE AND BUSTLE OF MOVING THE AGENDA, THE APPLICANT DOES NOT ANTICIPATE OR EXPECT OR UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY COULD OF DONE TO PRESENT THEIR CASE BETTER BEFORE YOU AND ADDITIONAL FACTS ARE LEARNED SUBSEQUENT THAT REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND I REALLY KEY TO THIS. I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE MR. BACK IN THE ORANGE JACKET, FRANK IS HERE TODAY, THIS IS HE IS A JUNIOR OF SENIOR, EASILY IF YOU GOOGLE THE NAME YOU WILL COME UP WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA HISTORICAL DEPARTMENT AND YOU CAN READ ABOUT THE FAMILY AND IT IS A GREAT PIECE OF HISTORY FOR SAINT AUGUSTINE WERE THE SENIOR IS ONE OF SEVEN BROTHERS. THE FAMILY WAS VERY HEAVILY TIED INTO THE FISHING INDUSTRY IN OUR COUNTY IN THIS AREA , IN SAINT AUGUSTINE. MANY OF YOU WILL RECALL THAT GREAT RESTAURANT THEO'S ON KING FOR SO MANY YEARS. THE SIGN - WAS OFTEN OVERSHADOWED BY IN THE BACKGROUND THE HUMONGOUS FAZIO SIGN ON THE SIDE OF THE FAZIO BUILDING RIGHT THERE ON THE WATERWAY. AND THEIR FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE GENERATIONALLY. DATING BACK MORE THAN 100 YEARS. THE ACTUAL PROPERTY SUBJECT OF THE APPLICATION WAS PRETTY THAT FRANK JUNIOR BEGAN TO PURCHASE WHEN HE WAS STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL. PURCHASING THE LAND 50 YEARS AGO. HIS WIFE CATHERINE WHO IS ALSO HERE, CATHERINE WAS AN EDUCATOR FOR 34 YEARS BEFORE RETIRING TWO YEARS AGO. THEIR SON IN THE MIDDLE IS ALSO HERE TODAY. THIS IS THEIR FAMILY PROPERTY SUBJECT OF THE APPLICATION. THEY THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT THEIR GOAL AND INTENT IS TO SETTLE THE PROPERTY TO BUY A LARGER TRACT , THEY NEED A LARGER TRACT BECAUSE OF FRANK JUNIOR AND CATHERINE'S KIDS AND GRANDKIDS, THEY WANT THEM ALL TO LIVE ON THE PROPERTY WITH THEM. AND SO THIS WOULD FACILITATE THEM GOING AND PURCHASING A LARGER PARCEL PROPERTY FURTHER TO THE WEST TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A FAMILY FARM, WHETHER THAT'S TECHNICALLY THE TERM OR NOT FOR THEIR FAMILY TO HAVE MORE SPACE. THAT'S PART OF WHAT WAS DRIVING THE APPLICATION. IF YOU ALLOW THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND YOU WAIVE THE ONE-YEAR WE WILL DO A BETTER JOB PRESENTING THE CASE SO YOU CAN REALLY GET A FEEL AND TEXTURE FOR WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. IT IS ALSO MERELY A 52 UNIT PROJECT ON LAND WHERE THEY COULD PROBABLY HAVE THAT OR MORE POTENTIALLY ON THE PROPERTY AND THEN AS AN ADDITIONAL PIECE TO THIS, BECAUSE THE PROJECT WAS SO SMALL, IT IS LESS THAN 1% ON ANY BROKEN LINK WHICH HAS TECHNICAL MERIT TO THE FACT THAT IT IS NOT A TRAFFIC IMPACT TYPE OF PROJECT. NOT ONE CAUSING MEASURABLE IMPACT ON LOCAL ROADS BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 52 UNITS. WHAT HAS GONE ON SINCE HIS WE NOW ARE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THERE IS IN THE CIP PROGRAM IN PLANNING ON AND CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN AN IMPROVEMENT RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM THIS AREA, ONE OF THE TWO THINGS NEARBY WHICH IS THE LINK OF FOUR MILE AT 60 SO KNOWING THERE WILL BE AN IMPROVEMENT THERE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK MORE EDUCATED ABOUT AND GIVE YOU SOME REAL INFORMATION AND A RESUBMITTAL OF THE PROJECT AT A FUTURE HEARING FOR THE PROJECT. WITH THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE A WAIVER OF THE ONE-TIME LIMIT SO THIS PROJECT CAN GET BACK ON TRACK. IF YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM ANY OF THE FAZIO'S THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU. OF COURSE EVEN OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE RICH HISTORY OF THEIR FAMILY WHICH IS HEAVILY TIED INTO FISHING AND SHRIMPING IN THE COUNTY. PRETTY INTERESTING STUFF. WITH THAT I WILL SHUT UP. I KNOW YOU HAVE AN AGENDA TO MOVE ALONG TO.[01:30:03]
>> THANK YOU MR. BURNETT. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> WE WILL NOW OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
DON'T WAIVE IT. JUST BECAUSE IT'S GOT A HISTORY HERE, LET'S FOLLOW THE RULES. WE DON'T WANT TO PREVENT INJUSTICE, WE USE ALL KINDS OF REAL WORDS TO GET WHAT WE WANT, THIS SHOULD NOT BE WAIVED. LET'S TREAT EVERYBODY THE SAME. AREN'T WE ALL THE SAME? JUSTICE FOR ALL.
YOU DENIED IT 5-0 AND THEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY COME HERE AND TALK AND GIVE HISTORY , THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY BEARING ON FOLLOWING THE RULES FOR EVERYBODY.
>> THANK YOU. >> WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REITERATE YOUR QUESTION DID THE HISTORY GET A WAIVER TO SPEED IT UP? NOT SURE IF THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN. SO IF IT'S WAITING ANOTHER YEAR THAN OKAY GREAT LET'S BRING THAT INTO HISTORY. IT IS JUST IRRELEVANT POINT.
IF THEY HAD TO COME BACK AND APPEAL TO GET THE EARLIER DATE OR SOONER , BUT LAY ON THE HISTORY THE DECADES AND THE GENERATIONS, WAS THAT A WAIVER TO PUT IN FOR ANOTHER YEAR? COME ON. IT IS SIMPLE. THANK YOU.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR? SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE
PUBLIC COMMENT. >> BACK TO THE BOARD, QUESTIONS
OR DISCUSSION? >> I HAVE SOME COMMENTS. WOULD YOU MIND COMING HERE FOR A SECOND? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THIS WE DISCUSSED THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT HE STATED WERE COMING. MY UNDERSTANDING IS EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE IMPROVEMENTS COMING TO THE AREA, THERE WAS NOTHING BEING DONE TO INCREASE CAPACITY ON THE ROAD CORRECT?
>> THAT'S GREAT, THIS IS INTERSECTION IMPROVING NOT CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT TO INCREASE THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THAT INTERSECTION TO INCREASE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
>> OKAY THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. BASED ON THAT MY CONCERN BRING THE TRAFFIC CAPACITY AT THE TIME I'M GOING TO BE GOING TO MOVE TO DENY THE WAIVER OF TIME LIMITS
[5. Public Hearing * Proposed Ordinance Amendments for Special Care Housing -First Reading. At the regular Board of County Commissioners meeting on September 19, 2023 staff received direction to draft an amendment to the Land Development Code regarding Assisted Living Facilities (ALFs) within Open Rural (OR) zoning. Land development regulations categorize ALFs under the broader term of Special Care Housing. Additional clarifications to Special Care Housing regulations were identified by staff and are included in the proposed amendment. This is the first reading of the proposed ordinance. If approved to proceed through the public hearing process, the Planning and Zoning Agency will consider the proposed ordinance and make recommendations. It is anticipated that the second reading of the ordinance would be scheduled for public hearing at a Board meeting in May. Per s. 125.66(5)(b)1., Florida Statutes, because the proposed amendment is changing permitted and special uses within zoning classifications, the second hearing must be held after 5 p.m., unless a minimum of four (4) Board members vote to hold it at a different time. ]
FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM. >> SECOND.
>> MOTION AND SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.
I AM AMY RING WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS FOR SPECIAL CARE HOUSING, 2023-07. FOR THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION. SEPTEMBER 19TH OF LAST YEAR THIS BOARD DIRECTED STAFF TO DRAFT AMENDMENTS TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO PROVIDE REVIEW PROCESS OF ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES THAT ARE PROPOSED IN OPEN RURAL ZONING. A TYPE OF SPECIAL CARE HOUSING AND SPECIAL CARE HOUSING IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED BY RIGHT AND ZONING AS RESIDENTIAL USE. SPECIAL CARE HOUSING IS DEFINED IN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND INCLUDES MULTIPLE TYPES OF HOUSING SUCH AS GROUP HOMES, CONGREGATE CARE HOMES, FOSTER HOMES AND ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES AMONG OTHERS. STAFF REVIEW IDENTIFIED ADDITIONAL PARTS OF THE CODE IN RELATION TO SPECIAL CARE HOUSING THAT CAN BETTER ALIGN WITH STATE STATUTE AND THOSE CHANGES WERE INCORPORATED IN THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. SO THE CODE CHANGES FOR CONSIDERATION START WITH CATEGORIZING SPECIAL CARE HOUSING INTO LEVELS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS SERVED.
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THIS FOLLOWS STATE STATUTE FOR COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL HOMES.SPECIAL CARE HOUSING LEVEL ONE WOULD ACCOMMODATE UP TO SIX RESIDENTS, LEVEL II UP TO SIX RESIDENTS, LEVEL 27 TO 14 RESIDENTS AND LEVEL III WOULD ACCOMMODATE 15 AND MORE. THIS SLIDE EXPLAINS HOW THESE LEVELS OF SPECIAL CARE HOUSING FUNCTION FOR ZONING SERVICES. SPECIAL CARE HOUSING LEVEL I ALLOWED BY RATE IN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, OPEN RURAL AND AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT, LEVEL II ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS AND BY SPECIAL USE IN THE OR AND ADD ZONING DISTRICTS AND LEVEL III ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN CERTAIN COMMERCIAL ZONES THAT ACCOMMODATE RESIDENTIAL TYPE BUSINESS. AND BY SPECIAL USE IN OR AND ADD. LDC ARTICLE 2 SECTION 2.02 , 2.0 3.23 ALLOWABLE SPECIAL USE BY ZONING DISTRICT CONTAINS DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA APPLIED IF SPECIAL USE WAS REQUIRED. CHANGES INCLUDE ADDING FRONT, REAR AND SIDE SETBACKS OF 50 FEET PER LEVEL II SPECIAL CARE HOUSING ADDING MINIMUM LOT AREA REQUIREMENT OF 6000 SQUARE FEET +1500 SQUARE FEET PER RESIDENT. LEVEL III SETBACKS WOULD BE THE SAME AS LEVEL II. ANIMAL LOT AREA BASE STARTS AT THE SAME LEVEL OF 6000 SQUARE FEET AND ALSO REQUIRES 2000 SQUARE FEET PER RESIDENT. SECTION 2 STATES THE LOCATION AND EXTENT OF FACILITY SHALL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE EXTERNAL APPEARANCE OF THE STRUCTURE AND SITE SHALL MAINTAIN GENERAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY. A NEW SECTION WOULD BE ADDED TO ARTICLE 6 SECTION 6.08 SUPPLEMENTAL DESIGN STANDARDS FOR SPECIFIED USE WHICH APPLIES TO ALL SPECIAL CARE HOUSING, THIS ADDRESSES EACH LEVEL I, TWO AND THREE WITH SPECIFIC DESIGN STANDARDS INCLUDING DISPERSIVE REQUIREMENT TO AVOID OVER CONCENTRATION OF SPECIAL CARE HOUSING IN ANY AREA AND LICENSING NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS SIMILAR TO STATE STATUTES. ALSO INCLUDED IS STATEMENT REGARDING THE VESTING OF EXISTING FACILITIES. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT UPDATES ARTICLE 12 DEFINITIONS REVISING THE DEFINITION OF SPECIAL CARE HOUSING TO INCLUDE ALL THREE LEVELS OF AND RELATED DEFINITIONS OF LIFE CARE CENTER TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY WITH CHANGES THAT ARE OUTLINED.
ALSO TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY THE CHANGES HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO TABLE 3.12 .04 ON THE HASTINGS OVERLAY.
SO, THE MOTIONS ARE ON THE SCREEN AND ON YOUR STAFF PACKET. I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS FROM THE
>> PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
COMMUNITY ADVOCATES FOR RACIAL EQUITY. WE ARE INFORMAL INDEPENDENT CIVIC ACTION GROUP . CARE NOTES THIS AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE CODE APPEARS TO BE INTENDED TO ADD ADDITIONAL FLEX ABILITY TO ALLOW FOR TWO LEVELS OF SPECIAL CARE FACILITIES APPEARED TO BE MOTIVATED BY OR FOCUSED UPON BUT NOT LIMITED NECESSARILY TO SMALLER ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES THAT MAY BE DEVELOPED. THE IDEA OF IDENTIFYING MAKING PROVISION FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING IS TO BE APPLAUDED WHEN YOU LOVE IS A SPECIAL CARE FACILITIES FALLING IN GENERAL CATEGORY OF WHAT WE LEARNED WHEN WE MET WITH AND ELLIS COUNTY TO DISCUSS AFFORDABLE HOUSING A FEW YEARS AGO CALLED MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE CREATIVITY ON THE PART OF THE STAFF TO WHERE THE END OF PROVIDING ADDITIONAL TOOLS IN THE COUNTY TOOLKIT FOR ADDRESSING EVER-GROWING AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS. WE DISAPPOINT THIS PROPOSAL PROVIDES LEVEL I AND TWO SPECIAL CARE HOUSING MUST CONTINUE TO MEET DENSITY REQUIREMENTS TO THE COMPANY AND SUPPLANT ONE OF THE FEW WAYS WE HAVE TO FACILITATE MAKING HOUSING MORE AFFORDABLE ALLOWING DENSITY, ST. JOHNS COUNTY THEREFORE NEEDS TO PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY ON DENSITY IN THE CONFERENCE A PLAN AND LAND USE CODE IF WE ARE EVER TO MAKE MEANINGFUL PROGRESS TO ADDRESSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING SHORTAGE. WE ALSO QUESTION IF THIS PROPOSAL CAPPING SPECIAL CARE HOUSING AT 14 RESIDENTS WILL ACCOMMODATE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS LIKE THE VETERANS HOUSING PROJECT HOUSING OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY
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ABOUT TO EMBARK ON HIGHWAY 16 OR WHAT ONE DEVELOPER CALLS CARE HOUSES. A CONS OF THE CO-LOCATES SEVERAL SENIORS AND CAREGIVERS AND THEIR FAMILIES IN MODESTLY FEIST -- SIZED FACILITIES. WE ASK THAT YOU REVISIT THE PROPOSAL AND TWEAK IT WITH AN EYE TO BUILDING ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY ON DENSITY. I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER RELATED BUT GENERAL THOUGHTS ON RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS .WE'VE ALL SEEN ANY TIME A DEVELOPER PROPOSES PROJECT IT WOULD PROVIDE WORKFORCE HOUSING TO ALLEVIATE THE CURRENT SHORTAGE OF ATTAINABLE HOUSING WITH EXISTING RESIDENTS LINING UP IN LARGE NUMBERS TO OPPOSE. ONE OF THE CHIEF OBJECTIONS IS IT WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON ALREADY CONGESTED LOCAL ROADS. TWO POINTS TO ASK THE LEGIONS OF OBJECTORS TO CONSIDER NEXT TIME A DEVELOPER WORKING IN THE SPACE BRINGS A PROPOSAL WOULD BE , IF YOU MOVE TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN THE LAST 10 OR 15 YEARS YOU ARE PART OF THE CURRENT PROBLEM IN A GROWING PERCENTAGE OF THE WORKFORCE HAS TO COMMUTE TO THEIR JOBS FROM DEVOL, CLAY, PUTNAM, FLAGLER OR BEYOND ESPECIALLY GIVEN A LACK OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION THIS WILL PUT A STRAIN ON THE ROADS. CRATING MORE FOR THE HOUSING AT HIGHER DENSITY SO PEOPLE CAN LIVE MUCH CLOSER TO WHERE THEY WORK IT'S LIKELY TO ALLEVIATE NOT EXACERBATE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. LET'S PUT SMART BACK INTO THE CONCEPT OF SMART ROADS. THANK YOU.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE? >> WAS A VERY NICE PRESENTATION AND I APPRECIATE THE BOARD DOING THIS OR ASKING FOR THIS INFORMATION BACK ON SEPTEMBER 19TH. I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS, WHEN SHE WAS TALKING I WENT IN THE BACK. DENSITY IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM AND AS FAR AS THE ONES MOVING HERE IT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM. I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT, BUT THE STAFF MEMBER CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME, BUT I WILL HAVE TO DO SOME HOMEWORK.
COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY TOURIST , CHT ZONING, IS THAT CHANGING AT ALL? FROM WHAT WAS BEFORE STAFF GOT TOGETHER TO DO THIS ? I HOPE THAT THIS IS BENEFITING PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT WAY FOR THOSE THAT ALREADY LIVE HERE AND IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THEY LIVE. DO THEY HAVE A DENSITY PROBLEM NOW OR WILL THEY? DO THEY HAVE OPEN WORLD OR OTHER CLASSIFICATIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW SOME OF THIS DEVELOPMENT? WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS CAREFULLY BECAUSE MOVING HERE DOES NOT ENTITLE YOU TO A HOUSE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GOT THAT INFORMATION.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT IS AN ENTITLEMENT. YOU DON'T HAVE AN ENTITLEMENT . DO YOUR RESEARCH AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEN COME TO THE BOARD AND YOU WANT A WAIVER TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. I AM CONCERNED, BUT IF THE STAFF CAN CANCEL THAT SIMPLE LITTLE QUESTION FOR THE CHT CLASSIFICATION ZONING, HAS THAT BEEN CHANGED AT ALL ? THANK
YOU. >> WANT TO POINT OUT, I THINK WE ARE AWARE , BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS ADMIT. THE LANGUAGE IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WHAT GOES ON, THEIR LANGUAGE AND WORD GAMES. YOU CALL SOMETHING AFFORDABLE OR IT'S FOR THE WORKERS. THIS IS TO DO SOMETHING FOR THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT NEEDS HELP AND SO YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT VOTING FOR IT. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO CALL THINGS WHAT THEY ARE. EVERYBODY KNOWS THE OLD PHRASE A ROSE BY ANY OTHER ROSE OR A NAME BY ANY OTHER NAME WAS STILL A ROSE OR A SKUNK BY ANY OTHER NAME IS STILL A SKUNK IT STILL STINKS. WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHEN
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YOU SAY AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WORKFORCE HOUSING OR HOUSING FOR THIS SPECIAL GROUP OR THAT SPECIAL GROUP. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HIGH DENSITY HOUSING , WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED HOUSING PROJECTS . GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED APARTMENT PROJECTS. WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT DOING. SO DO NOT CON YOURSELF OR US, WE ARE SEEING THROUGH IT. CALL IT WHAT IT IS. IF YOU WANT TO DO GOOD THINGS, WITH MY TAX DOLLARS AT LEAST BE HONEST ABOUT IT. BECAUSE WE SEE WHAT IT IS ANYWAY. WE MAY WANT TO DO IT WE MIGHT SAY THAT'S GREAT THAT'S IMPORTANT. BUT DO NOT CON ME. HIGH DENSITY HOUSING. IN A HIGH DENSITY AREA WHERE DENSITY IS A PROBLEM. WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOOK PAST THAT BECAUSE YOU GIVE IT A PRETTY NAME. THANK YOU.>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST >> THANK YOU I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT I'M PREPARED TO IT.
OKAY LET'S FINISH PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE? SEEING NON-WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> THANK YOU AGAIN AND PUBLIC COMMENT HAS THROWN ME OFF A LITTLE BIT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. THIS IS LIVING FACILITIES NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. ARE THEY?
>> NO THIS IS NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
>> I FEEL LIKE I'M GETTING CONNED BY THE PUBLIC COMMENT, I KEEP GETTING THIS FEEDBACK ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ITEM I'M ABOUT TO VOTE ON AND THROUGH STAFF AND HAVING THIS AGENDA ITEM I KNOW THIS IS ABOUT UPDATING LAND DEVELOPMENT SO ASSISTING LIVING. -- CARE FACILITIES MAY OR NOT BE ENTITLED. THANK YOU. I JUST HAD TO CLARIFY THAT , WHAT I READ IS WHAT I AM VOTING ON. THE PUBLIC COMMENT WAS BEAUTIFUL BUT IT DID NOT REALLY , IT WAS NOT JOGGING WITH WHAT I KNEW WAS IN THE PACKET. TO THE CHAIR TO THESE UPDATES AS PRESENTED LIMIT THE ISSUES WE WERE HAVING EARLIER A YEAR AGO OR A COUPLE YEARS AGO?
>> YES IT DOES, IT DOES PROVIDE FOR THE USE A SPECIAL USE OF OR ZONING AND ALIGNS WITH THE CURRENT STATE REGULATIONS REGARDING COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL HOMES. IT IS AN UPDATE FOR THAT CONCERN AND FOR WHAT CURRENT STATE LAW
PROVIDES. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> I WANT TO REITERATE THIS IS BASED ON WHETHER WAS COMMUNITY AND THERE WAS AN EMPTY PIECE OF OR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY WANTED TO PUT THE ADULT CARE CENTER IN THE MIDDLE AND IT WAS NOT COMPATIBLE , BUT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO IT. IS THAT WHERE
WE ARE CLOSING THE LOOPHOLE? >> YES.
>> OKAY THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? IS THERE A MOTION?
>> COMMISSIONER ALAIMO >> MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD TO
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PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY SEEKING ACCOMMODATION OF AMENDMENT FOR SPECIAL CARE HOUSING AS PRESENTED.>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
SIX. >> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. HERE FOR SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT STARTING WITH ITEM NUMBER SIX APPOINTMENTS TO LAND ACQUISITION MANAGEMENT PROGRAM ALSO KNOWN AS LAMP. THIS BOARD HAD A VACANCY DUE TO A RESIGNATION AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS BOARD IS SET UP THE DISTRICT 3 COMMISSIONER DOES HAVE THE CHOICE OF THE THREE APPLICANTS WHO WERE QUALIFIED, BUT HE DOES MAKE THE CHOICE ULTIMATELY SO THIS IS TO PROVE THAT APPOINTMENT.
JOSEPH. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT AND DON'T TAKE THIS PERSONALLY. I UNDERSTAND HE HAS THE CHOICE AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THIS HAS THE LEAST QUALIFIED IS THE LEAST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE AND THE THREE CANDIDATES I TALKED WITH DR. SPIEGEL WHO HAS BEEN AT EVERY MEETING, HERE , A
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LEADING BIOLOGY, ANATOMY AND PHYSIOLOGY, BIOLOGY, ZOOLOGY FOR OVER 50 YEARS . HIS WIFE IS ON THE PZA, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION. THE OTHER PERSON HE WORKS FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION AREA MOST OF HIS LIFE HE SPENT 23 YEARS ENVIRONMENT AND MARINE SCIENCE EDUCATOR GUIDING STUDENTS THROUGH FIELD ECOSYSTEMS AND HAVING TO DO WITH THE ENVIRONMENT AND THEN IS A INSURANCE SALESMAN. I'M NOT SURE, I REALLY CANNOT APPROVE OF HER OVER DR. SIEGALAND MR. GAMBLE, I'M SORRY. >> COMMISSIONER ALAIMO
>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. AGAIN I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO APPLIED. I KNOW FOR A LONG TIME I AM RECOMMITTING LAUREN HOWINGTON , VERY EXPERIENCED, AS COMMISSIONER JOSEPH NOTED SHE HAS BEEN IN THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY OVER 17 YEARS. SHE IS FROM THIS AREA AND COMMUNITY, I MET HER YEARS AGO WHEN SHE WAS SERVING ON AS AN AMBASSADOR FOR THE ST.
JOHN'S CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. SHE ALSO SERVES ON THE BOARD FOR THE BETTY GRIFFIN CENTER AND SHE IS A YOUNG MOTHER AND SOMEBODY WHO CARES DEEPLY ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AND I THINK SHE WILL DO A GREAT JOB. THAT'S WHO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT, LAUREN HOWINGTON AS DISTRICT 3 REPRESENTATIVE TO THE CONSERVATION BOARD FOR A TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE
NOVEMBER 16TH, 2025. >> SECOND.
>> PUBLIC COMMENT? >> WE WILL NOW OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX.
>> THE OTHER APPLICANTS. I FEEL DUTY BOUND TO SAY THAT I SAY THIS FOR THE SAKE OF MY FELLOW RESIDENTS AND NOBODY ELSE. I THINK THEY SHOULD KNOW THERE IS A TREND REGARDING APPOINTMENTS ON THIS BOARD , SEEMS TO BE AN INTENTIONAL TREND OF SELECTING PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE AN ENVIRONMENT OF BACKGROUND, EXPERIENCE OR INTEREST. THIS OCCURRED WITH ME ON THE LAST LAND BOARD APPOINTMENT WHERE I WAS UNANIMOUSLY SELECTED BY THE LAND BOARD TO SERVE ON THE BOARD. AND THE PERSON THAT WAS , COMMISSIONER DEAN MADE THE MOTION TO PUT SOMEBODY ELSE ON THE BOARD WHO ACTUALLY, HER APPLICATION WAS THE SAME APPLICATION THAT SHE USED TO APPLY TO MULTIPLE BOARDS. SHE DID NOT EVEN CUSTOMIZE THE APPLICATION TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE SHE HAD MUCH OF AN INTEREST IN WILDLIFE HABITAT YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WOW, THIS IS AMAZING AND NOW ANOTHER, I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE AWARE OF THIS AND SEE HOW THIS COMMISSION IS OPERATED.
UNITED NATIONS AND BATTERIES ARE SAYS AS SCARCE AS TRUTH IS THE SUPPLY SEEMS GREATER THAN THE DEMAND. DON'T SMIRK. THIS COUNTY COMMISSION OFTEN MAKES DECISIONS WITHOUT ADEQUATE INFORMATION. WITHOUT ADEQUATE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. WITHOUT ADEQUATE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION, FOR HEAVEN SAKE, WE HEARD A COUNTY ADMINISTERED WITHOUT A BACKGROUND INVESTIGATOR. HE WOULD NOT HIRE A UTILITY PLANT OPERATOR WITHOUT A BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION. DO WE DO BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS ON APPLICANTS FOR THE BOARDS? NO.
WHY? BECAUSE WE WANT UNQUALIFIED PEOPLE? BECAUSE ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS ALL ABOUT ONE-PARTY RULE AND POLITICAL PATRONAGE. COULD THAT BE THE REASON? YOU TELL ME. I AGREE WITH MISS CROSBY. THIS PROBLEM HAS PERSISTED FOR DECADES, A LADY WHO USED TO BE A COMMISSIONER HAD A LETTER IN THE SAINT AUGUSTINE RECORD ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO. ON THE BLOCK I DON'T THINK THE RECORD HAS IT ON THEIR WEBSITE, BUT SHE SAID THAT THE BCC WAS REQUIRING TO BE APPOINTED TO ONE OF THESE BOARDS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE A REPUBLICAN WHICH VIOLATES SUPREME COURT PRECEDENT. WE ALSO HAD A COMMISSIONER HERE NOT LONG AGO WHO ASKED THE POLITICAL PARTY AFFILIATIONS OF PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO BE ON THE LIBRARY BOARD, ILLEGALLY. ALL OF YOU NEED TO CUT IT OUT. EVERY SINGLE ONE I'M CALLING OUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU WHO DOES THIS. EVERY SINGLE ONE. WE NEED TO START RECRUITING QUALIFIED PEOPLE AND NOT KICKING CITIZENS IN THE TEETH.
WHEN WE SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU NO LONGER HAVE IN
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THE MINUTES WHAT WE SAID, NOT EVEN THE SUBJECT. PEOPLE ASK ABOUT THIS, WE HAVE NEVER GOTTEN AN ANSWER. PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS AT BUDGET MEETINGS, ONE OF FOUR QUESTIONS ON THE FY 2024 BUDGET. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY QUESTIONS I HAD ANSWERED? NONE. WE HAVE A STATUTORY RIGHT FOR MEETINGS TO ASK QUESTIONS. WE SHOULD ASK QUESTIONS, DEMAND ANSWERS AND EXPECT DEMOCRACY AND IS NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK. I WOULD SUGGEST IN LIGHT OF WHAT MISS CROSBY JUST SAID AND IN LIGHT OF THE EVIDENCE BEFORE YOU ALL ABOUT THE POLITICAL PATRONAGE NETWORK IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY THAT YOU TABLE THIS APPOINTMENT AND THAT YOU ACTUALLY VET AND CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A WORKING COMMITTEE SYSTEM IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY , MAYBE A BUDGET OR PERSONNEL COMMITTEE BECAUSE TOO OFTEN WE SPEAK HERE AND WHAT WE SAY IS NO LONGER EVEN IN THE MINUTES. RESPECT, WE DON'T GET IT. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY SELF-RESPECT , IT'S ONE-PARTY RULE AND MORE OF THE SAME AND THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.STRAIGHTEN UP AND FLY RIGHT. THANK YOU.
COMMENT? >> CHOICE IS CLEAR. AN INSURANCE SALESMAN VERSUS QUALIFIED CANDIDATES THAT CAN REALLY HELP? ON THE LAMP BOARD? IT IS CLEAR. IS THIS A FRIEND YOU ARE APPOINTING? IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE IT. WE REALLY NEED QUALIFIED PEOPLE FOR THESE COMMITTEES, FOR THESE BOARDS, ABSOLUTELY 100% ISN'T THAT
COMMON SENSE? REALLY. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX?
>> MY NAME IS MICHAEL MCDONALD AND I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT.
ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX? SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE
PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY BACK TO THE BOARD. A MOTION AND SECOND? NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN APPOINTMENTS --
>> EXCUSE ME I'M SORRY. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN
>> I'M COMPELLED TO MAKE A COMMENT SINCE MY NAME WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE APPOINTMENT THAT I MADE EARLIER THIS YEAR.
ON THE LAMP BOARD AND I WANT TO SAY SINCE SHE IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I STAND BEHIND 110% AND ONE REASON I WANTED TO POINT HER IS WE NEED AS A COUNTY AND A STATE, WE NEED YOUNG YOUTHFUL EXUBERANCE AND INTERESTED PEOPLE TO GET INVOLVED IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT. AND IS ONE OF THE MORE INTERESTING, EXCITED AND ACTIVE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT I KNOW. SPEAKING TO HER CHURCH TONIGHT , MAYBE THAT DISQUALIFIES ME FOR APPOINTING A FRIEND, BUT NEVERTHELESS I COULD NOT LET THAT GO WITHOUT DEFENDING
>> MANAGER A COMMENT AND KIND OF ECHO THOSE COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONER DEAN. I AM LOOKING FOR FOLKS WHO REALLY WANT TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. THAT CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I DO BELIEVE LAUREN WOULD DO A FANTASTIC JOB IN THAT ROLE. I HEARD EARLIER TODAY SOME COMMENTS AND IF IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS TRYING TO SUPPORT POLITICAL POINTS AND NOT PUT PEOPLE OVER POLITICS, SO LIKE I SAID MY APPOINTMENT WAS BASED ON SOMEBODY THAT EVERYTHING CARES ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AND WILL DO A GREAT JOB AND I ECHO THOSE COMM
>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ALAIMO I DO FIND IT TROUBLING THERE IS A PATTERN OF US COMING UP AND TENDERING PEOPLE WHO ARE SERVING ON THE BOARD. IT IS VERY DISTURBING.
COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> NOT DENIGRATING , I'M JUST SAYING, IS SHE HERE? DR. SPIEGEL IS HERE BECAUSE HE IS HERE EVERY MEETING AND HE'S THE TYPE OF PERSON I WOULD LIKE
TO SEE ON THE LAMP BOARD. >> PLEASE REFRAIN FROM APPLAUSE.
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NUMBER SEVEN. >> OKAY LET'S GO BACK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN CONSIDER A PREMISE TO THE NORTH COASTAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ONE.
DIFFICULT TO GET MEMBERS TO APPLY TO THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE SPECIAL QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED. VACANCY FOR THIS RAN ALMOST 7 MONTHS AND I WANT TO THANK FOR ASSISTING AND KIND GOING OUT AND GETTING SOME PEOPLE TO APPLY TO SOME OF THESE REVIEW BOARDS I WANT TO THANK HIM PUBLICLY. ATTACHED FOR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION ARE THREE QUALIFIED APPLICATIONS. IT WILL BE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE NORTH COASTAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD TO REAPPOINT ] AND REAPPOINT WILLIAM MORTON. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS
I'M ON STANDBY. >> THANK YOU, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY PUBLIC COMMENT? SO I WILL NOW OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
APPRECIATE ALL THREE PEOPLE GOING TO BE APPOINTED. I AM KIND OF REALLY REALLY REALLY DISAPPOINTED THAT A COMMISSIONER OR ANY COMMISSIONERS , I'VE NEVER HEARD THIS BEFORE. WOULD SAY SOMETHING ABOUT A PERSON'S AGE , WHETHER THEY WOULD BE QUALIFIED OR NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR AGE. NOW, I HAVE SEEN ONE LADY IN HERE BEFORE WHO IS GOING TO BE APPOINTED. I AM NOT GOING TO SAY THAT SHE IS TOO OLD OR TOO YOUNG . BUT WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT KIND OF THING, I THOUGHT. I DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL WHAT WE ARE SAYING HERE, REALLY AND TRULY. YOU GET CONCERNED ABOUT US, WE GET CONCERNED ABOUT YOU ALL. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT SOMEBODY'S AGE. YOU MAY THINK THEY ARE OLD, BUT THEY MAY REALLY BE YOUNG, THEY JUST AGED A LOT.
COMMENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN?
>> COMMISSIONER DEAN . >> I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION OR ONE MOTION FOR ALL THREE?
>> WE HAVE MORE PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> ALL THREE ARE SEPARATE. OKAY.
>> COMMENT COMMENT ABOUT THE EXTREMELY AND I'M FRANKLY SHOCKED EXPRESSION OF AGE DISCRIMINATION BY A COMMISSIONER WHO IS, YES I AM A SENIOR CITIZEN AND BY A COMMISSIONER 10 YEARS OLDER THAN ME RUNNING FOR PUBLIC OFFICE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY, I'M HERE TO SAY I AM IN SHOCK. THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO SAY.
>> FOLKS, PLEASE HOLD THE APPLAUSE.
>> MAY I SAY ONE THING? I AM 76 AND I NEED ALL THE HELP I CAN GET FROM THE JUNIOR -- YOUNGER GENERATION SO I DO NOT APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER DEAN. BACK TO THE BOARD FOR MOTION
>> SECOND. >> THE MOTION NEEDS TO BE READ
OUT. >> I NEED TO MAKE THREE SEPARATE MOTIONS SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ABOUT TO DO. FIRST IS TO REAPPOINT FOR A FULL FOUR-YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE FEBRUARY
>> MOTION AND SECOND. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE
ABOUT. PASSES 5-0. >> MOVED TO REAPPOINT TO THE NORTH COASTAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD FOR A FULL FOUR-YEAR TERM SCHEDULD TO EXPIRE EVERY SIX, 2028.
>> ABSOLUTELY SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND PLEASE
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>> MOVED TO A POINT WILLIAM MORTON NORTH COASTAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AS ALTERNATE MEMBER FOR A FULL FOUR-YEAR TERM EXPIRING FEBRUARY 26, 2028.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0 AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU. FOR THE FINAL ITEM OF THE DAY IT IS GOING TO BE APPOINTMENT TO THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. EARLIER THIS YEAR OR LATE LAST YEAR COMMISSIONER , VICE MAYOR WAS APPOINTED MAYOR ON THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH. AT THAT TIME HAS BEEN WRITTEN FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO REAPPOINT MAYOR TO BE APPOINTED AS CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH
ELECTED OFFICIAL ON THE TDC. >> THIS WOULD JUST BE CONFIRMATION OF THE APPOINTMENT.
>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> I FEEL LIKE HE HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. I THINK HE IS THE HEAD OF THE AMPHITHEATER AND I THINK THEY DO SING OUT LOUD AND WE HAVE 4 MILLION OR $5 MILLION FOR THE PROGRAM THAT I THINK I OWE POSED BEFORE. ALSO I THINK HE IS PART OWNER OF THE SONGWRITER CONTEST FESTIVAL. I SAW THAT A YEAR AGO, HE MIGHT NOT BE NOW. IS HE HERE? I WOULD LOVE TO ASK HIM. I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAS ALCOHOL OWNERSHIP IN SOME BAR OR SOMETHING. I FEEL LIKE IS HE GOING TO BE ON THE BOARD AND THEN HAVE TO RECUSE HIMSELF OVER THOSE DECISIONS? I FEEL LIKE, NOTHING AGAINST THE GUY, I LIKE THE GUY HE'S A NICE GUY BUT THERE IS A HUGE CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
>> I WILL ASK. AS I SAID THE BOARD IS COMPOSED OF MEMBERS THAT ARE IN THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY SO AT ANY GIVEN TIME THERE CAN BE SITUATIONS THAT DO ARISE WHERE THERE ARE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND MY EXPERIENCE IS EACH OF THE MEMBERS HAS RECUSE THEMSELVES WHEN THAT ARISES.
HELP ME UNDERSTAND. >> THAT IS CORRECT. IT IS THE SAME STATUTE THAT APPLIES TO YOU ALL, CHAPTER 112 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTE AND IF A PARTICULAR ITEM COULD THE LANGUAGE IS TO SPECIAL PRIVATE GAIN OR LOSS ANY OF YOU ON ANY TOPIC LIKE THAT HERE AND ANY MEMBER OF THE TDC ON ANY TOPIC BEFORE THEM WOULD NEED TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM THE VOTE AND FILL OUT CONFLICT OF INTEREST FORM. IT HAPPENS FROM TIME TO TIME TO ALL ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS. IT HAPPENS TO ALL BOARD MEMBERS. SO IT IS A STATE LAW THAT APPLIES TO
EVERYONE WHO SERVES. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER
WHITEHURST . >> THANK YOU, AS I LISTEN TO THOSE CONCERNS, IT OCCURS TO ME THAT I THINK AT ONE TIME PHIL MCDANIEL WHO OWNS A SAINT AUGUSTINE DISTILLERY, A TOURISM ATTRACTION AND THERE IS ALCOHOL INVOLVED AT THE DISTILLERY. HE SERVED ON THE BOARD, CHARLES COX WHO SITS ON THE BOARD NOW OWNS THE SAN SEBASTIAN WINERY. MOST WINE THERE SOME ALCOHOL CONTENT AND HE IS ALLOWED TO SERVE ON THE BOARD. SO, BASED ON COMMISSIONER JOSEPH CONCERNS I DON'T SEE THERE IS ANY COME I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE ANY ISSUES WITH WHATEVER OWNERSHIP YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE IN THE
TOURISM INDUSTRY. >> I WOULD ADD IRVING KASS ON THE BOARD AS ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR WINE BARS IN TOWN.
WITH THAT. >> WE WILL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
>> A MAYOR CANNOT SERVE TWO MASTERS.
>> STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
>> DON'T YOU REMEMBER? SUPREME COURT IN THE CASE OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA VERSUS MISSISSIPPI VALLEY GENERATING COMPANY OTHERWISE KNOWN AS DIXON YATES, A UNANIMOUS SUPREME COURT CASE DECIDED THE MOST IMPORTANT PRINCIPLE IN CONFLICT OF INTEREST REGULATION AND LAW IS SET FORTH IN MATTHEW. A MAN CANNOT SERVE TWO MASTERS. COULD WE GET SOME COMPETENT LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND FLORIDA ETHICS COMMISSION ON THE PRECISE LEGAL QUESTION THAT THE COMMISSIONER HAS ASKED? I'M NOT INTERESTED IN NON-LEGAL OPINIONS BY NONLAWYERS. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN GOOD OLD BOY STUFF ABOUT THE OTHER ALCOHOL MERCHANTS WHO MIGHT BE ON THE TDC OR ANYTHING ELSE. SHE IS ASKING A QUESTION, SHE IS ENTITLED TO DIGNITY , RESPECT AND CONSIDERATION. COMEDY AND RESPECT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE IN THE LEGISLATURE .
YOU RESPECT YOUR FELLOW LEGISLATORS. I DID NOT HEAR
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ANY RESPECT FOR HER CONCERN. SHE ASKED A QUESTION AND YOU DO NOT PUT THAT QUESTION, CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A COPY OF NAME ] RESUME AND A DISCLOSURE OF ALL FINANCIAL INTEREST AS HE WOULD DO IN FORM SIX. CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS LIKE GROWN-UPS? CONFLICT OF INTEREST IS AT THE CORE OF PROBLEMS ON ENVIRONMENTAL LAW AND OTHER AREAS OF LAW. AS AL GORE WROTE IN 1992 IN HIS BOOK WHEN YOU HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS TO THE WORLD IT IS OFTEN THE RESULT OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND CORRUPTION. THE MERE FACT THAT SOME BUSINESSES NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. DON'T SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG. DON'T KICK HER IN THE TEETH. WHEN PEOPLE COME TO THESE MEETINGS THEY EXPECT TO BE TREATED WITH DIGNITY, RESPECT AND CONSIDERATION. WOULD YOU ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSIONER JOSEPH ASKS? PLEASE ASK OATH AND ASK OR ANSWER SOME SIMPLE QUESTIONS. DON'T DO THIS. ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS A BAD REPUTATION THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA. REVEREND DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING SAID THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY WAS HOW DID HE FRIGID? THE MOST LAWLESS PLACE IN AMERICA. AND YOU ARE STILL SHOWING US THAT AT EVERY SINGLE MEETING. ONE-PARTY RULE, ALL REPUBLICAN, NOT ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS. WE DON'T EVEN GET OUR TESTIMONY AND PUBLIC COMMENT RECORDED IN THE MINUTES ANY LONGER. WHY? WHO TOLD THEM TO DO THAT? IT'S LIKE BILL CLINTON SAID, IF YOU GO DOWN THE ROAD AND YOU SEE A TURTLE ON A FENCE POST, YOU KNOW THAT SOMEBODY PUT IT THERE. THANK YOU LADIES ANDGENTLEMEN. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN.
>> READY TO MAKE A MOTION. I WILL WAIT.
>> FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND I THOUGHT HE WAS SITTING HERE, HE SAID HERE ON A LOT OF COMMISSION MEETINGS. MAYBE NAME ] WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AFTER ALL PUBLIC COMMENT AND ANSWER BECAUSE HE MAY NOT HAVE HEARD GIVEN THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO HEAR WHEREVER HE WENT BECAUSE MR. WHITEHURST TOLD US THAT A LONG TIME AGO , HIS MOM WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND I REMEMBER ABOUT THAT. JUST OUT OF RESPECT. I AM SURE HE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AFTERWARD AND ANSWER THE QUESTION.
THAT'S THE ONLY REASON HE PROBABLY HAS NOT JUMPED UP IS BECAUSE HE WAS NOT HERE TO JUMP UP . OKAY.
GOING TO ADD NONPROFIT THAT RUNS THE CONCERT HALL AT THE THEATER, SING OUT LOUD AND JAZZ FESTIVAL AND HAS STATED AS THE MAYOR OF SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH. LOOKING AT HIS APPLICATION PROVIDED IN THE MATERIALS IN THE BINDER OUTSIDE OF THE AUDITORIUM AND IT IS BARE-BONES. I SEE FOR OCCUPATION AND PAST WORK LISTS SELF AND ON THE TOPIC OF AGE DECADE SO THERE SHOULD BE MORE THAN JUST SELF. IT IS A VERY BARE-BONES APPLICATION. I BELIEVE THERE'S A QUESTION OF WHETHER HE OWNS BUSINESSES AND HOW THOSE MIGHT FIT IN LISTED ON THE APPLICATION ONLY SJ CCE. I AM ASKING IN THE FACE OF TRANSPARENCY THAT DISRESPECT TO HIM, BUT I THINK THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW BEFORE THIS APPOINTMENT. THANK YOU.
FOREST DEVELOPMENT STATUE IS DIFFERENT FROM A LOT OF OTHERS.
I WANT TO READ FOR EDIFICATION SOME OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE STATUTE THAT ENCOURAGES AND REQUIRES THOSE INVOLVED IN THESE ACTIVITIES TO SERVE. UNDER THE STATUTE I WILL READ SOME OF THE RELEVANT PORTIONS RATHER THAN READING 300 STRAIGHT WORDS TO YOU. THE CHAIR OF THE GOVERNING BOARD OF THE COUNTY SERVES ON THE BOARD TWO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL SHALL BE ELECTED MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS. SIX MEMBERS SHALL BE PERSONS INVOLVED IN THE TOURIST INDUSTRY AND WHO HAVE DEMONSTRATED INTEREST IN A TOURIST DEVELOPMENT IN WHICH MEMBERS NOT LESS THAN THREE OR MORE THAN FOUR SHOULD BE OPERATORS OF HOTELS HOTELS RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKS OR OTHER TOURISTY ACCOMMODATIONS. SO THAT'S JUST SOME OF IT.
THIS BOARD WANTS PEOPLE UNDER STATE LAW THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS INDUSTRY BECAUSE THEY DETERMINE HOW TO SPEND THE
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TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX. WHILE I GET THE PUBLIC INPUT A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST THIS IS A TYPE OF BOARD OR STATE LAW THAT SAYS WE WANT PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THESE INDUSTRIES TO BE ON THE BOARD AND I WANT TO BRING THATTO THE BOARD'S INFORMATION. >> IT IS A MINIMUM OR MAXIMUM LIKE THREE NEED TO HAVE THEIR OWN BUSINESSES AND THREE DON'T? THE LAST SENTENCE YOU WERE SAYING?
>> THAT WAS ONE CLAUSE OF THE SECTION AND I CAN READ IT
GIVE ME A SECOND TO FIND IT. >> I AM CONCERNED WE HAVE SO MANY TAX DOLLARS GOING TO MISSING OUT LOUD AND HE IS DIRECTLY IN IT, BUT IF YOU WILL RECUSE HIMSELF .
>> HE WOULD HAVE TO UNDER PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 112.
>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. OR GOOD
MORNING. >> AUGUSTINE BEACH. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS. I DON'T OWN ALCOHOL BUSINESS. I AM PART OF THE SONGWRITER FESTIVAL AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAME IN FRONT OF THE TDC FOR FUNDING FOR THE AMPHITHEATER I WOULD ABSOLUTELY RECUSE MYSELF AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE ATTORNEYS ABOUT THAT.
>> ONE LAST SUGGESTION THAT YOU ARE TO LIST ON YOUR APPLICATION. THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
>> YES MA'AM, ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONERS?
>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, COMMISSIONER DEAN.
>> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. I AM PREPARED TO MAKE
>> I JUST WANT TO BASICALLY ACQUIT INTRO TO MY MOTION, I HAVE KNOWN COMMUNITY WORK ON HIS OWN NICKEL OR VOLUNTARILY THAN ALMOST ANYONE ELSE THAT I HAVE MET IN THE COUNTY AND HE IS A REAL JEWEL WHEN IT COMES TO A COMMUNITY ASSET FOR ALL THE THINGS ON HIS OWN TIME AND GIVES SO MUCH AND I AM PROUD TO
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MOVE APPROVAL TO THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL.>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND, WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 4-1. THANK YOU.
OKAY WITH THAT WE ARE GOING INTO NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.
BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS HAVE THEIR OWN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, ANY PERSON WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD COME TO THE PODIUM STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS EACH PERSON WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND WILL COMPLY WITH RULES OF DECORUM, COMMENT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER AND MAY NOT INCLUDE DEMAND FOR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD. NO PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH PERSONAL OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS WITH BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR, NUMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHOULD REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE COMMENTS, I WOULD ASK ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS ANY OVERHEAD MATERIAL PLEASE PRESENT MATERIAL TO THE STAFF OF THE CLERK OF THE COURT TO BE ENTERED INTO PUBLIC RECORD. THANK YOU.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE UNETHICAL DECEPTIVE BEHAVIOR THAT YOU ARE PERFORMING WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY PARKS FOUNDATION. IN LIEU OF THIS DETERMINATION THINGS ARE BEING HAND-DELIVERED TO ONLY FORM OF COMMUNICATION TO AND FROM THIS FOUNDATION AND ALL NECESSARY PURPOSES OF THE FOUNDATION MOVING AT THIS POINT THE IN MY PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST I HAVE NOTICED $360,000 FUNDED TO THIS PROGRAM THROUGH DECEPTIVE WAYS AND NON-CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS AND HAVE BEEN RAILROADED IN A FASHION THAT IS UNETHICAL AS YOU CAN BELIEVE. IN THIS PROCESS, TWO YEARS HAS GONE BY WITH NO PUBLIC INPUT OR PUBLIC OUTREACH, NOTHING. THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS FOR A PROPOSED PROJECT TO BE MOVED TO A COUNTY PROPERTY WHICH IS ADJACENT TO HOMES BY 50 FEET. SO THE NEXT THING, WE ARE TWO WEEKS AFTER THE PLAN APPROVAL HAS GONE THROUGH BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THEY ARE RAILROADING THEIR MEETING THROUGH EVERY FORM OF ADVERTISING, INCLUDING THE FRONT PAGE TOP SECTION OF THE RECORD , THE NEWS IN FORM OF
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RADIO. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU I'M SURE, AND NOT SURPRISED WE HAVE SEEN A BANNER FLY OVER THE BEACHSIDE. HE HAS PUBLICIZED SO HEAVILY TWO WEEKS AFTER THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND THEN WHEN I HAVE ATTACKED SORRY FOR THE ATTACK I WENT AFTER THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO SEE THE RECORDS THEY HAD AND I HAVE DISCOVERED THEY EXPEDITED THE WHOLE PROCESS AND IN LIEU OF OPPOSITION. IN THIS PROCESS HAVE ALSO DISCOVERED COUNTY EMPLOYEES COLLABORATIVELY WORKING AGAINST MY OPPOSITION TO USE CODE ENFORCEMENT TO COME REMOVE SIGNAGE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY ON RING CAMERA THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH PRIVATE PROPERTY AT THE BEHEST AND DIRECTIVE OF HOWIE BARKLEY THAT WORKS IN THE CULTURAL REVIEW BOARD AND SHE'S THE ONE WHO INITIATED THIS PROCESS. TO THE PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT I DISCOVERED THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. NANCY FORTNER CONTACTING GROWTH MANAGEMENT TO SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE WITH THE PROJECT. THAT WAS THE ONLY CONCLUSION TO BRING IT ON PUBLIC PROPERTY TO AVOID OPPOSITION BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD DO THIS AND MAINTAIN THE HISTORICAL STRUCTURE THAT THEY ARE SUGGESTING EXISTS WHICH I HAVE DISCOVERED ARE ALL THROUGH FRAUDULENT INFORMATION THAT I CAN EASILY PROVIDE AND I'VE TRIED TO PROVIDE TO EVERYONE OF YOU . LOOKS LIKE MY TIME IS UP, THIS IS UNETHICAL AND NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO. THE WIND SWEPT ANCHORS PROJECT.SCREEN PLEASE? THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I'M COMING TODAY WITH A SPECIAL MESSAGE OF THANKS, FIRST I WANT TO THANK THE ONE WHO GUIDES US. GOD THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN THE HEARTS OF ELECTED OFFICIALS AND REPRESENTATIVES. WE KNOW AND YOU ALL KNOW THAT OUR COUNTRY IS ANOINTED BY GOD AS THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN NATION. OUR FOREFATHERS PROVIDED US WITH THIS AMAZING CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC THAT WE HOLD SACRED ANNUAL TOOK AN OATH OF OFFICE TO PROTECT IT. GODS CHILDREN ARE OUR FUTURE THEREFORE WE RESPECT AND HONOR THOSE ADULTS WHO GUIDE THEM AND PROTECT THEM. THE CHRISTIAN FAMILY COALITION CONTACTED ME TO ASK ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO JOIN IN TO DEFUND THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION . AND THE AFFILIATES BECAUSE OF THE MARXIST LGBTQ ACTIVIST AGENDA.
THE ALA HAS BECOME NOTORIOUS FOR ITS AGGRESSIVE PROMOTION OF DRAG QUEEN STORY HOURS AND EXPLICIT LGBTQ MATERIALS TARGETING CHILDREN. ITS CURRENT PRESIDENT IS A SELF-PROCLAIMED MARXIST LESBIAN WHO HAS SAID LIBRARIES NEED TO BE A SITE OF SOCIALIST ORGANIZING. AND HAS CALLED TO QUERY THE CATALOG . ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS JOINED BY CITRUS, HERNANDO, LEE, PASCOE, SARASOTA, SANTA ROSA, LAKE, ST. LUCIE, FLAGLER AND BAY COUNTIES IN DEFUNDING THE ALA AND AFFILIATES. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SPECIAL THANKS TO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR STANDING UP FOR CHILDREN. THANK YOU TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY LIBRARY SYSTEM DIRECTOR AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS FOR ASSISTING AND PARTICIPATING IN THIS ACTION. YOUR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED. LASTLY I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE DIVISION AND LIBRARY AND INFORMATION SERVICES THAT ANNOUNCED A NEW RULE IN OCTOBER PROHIBITING STATE GRANTS TO LIBRARIES FROM BEING SPENT ON ALA RELATED RESOURCES. THIS IS THE FINAL ARTICLE WRITTEN UP FROM THAT CHRISTIAN FAMILY COALITION. HAVE A GOOD DAY AND GOD BLESS.
CARE NOTED AT A MEETING LAST MARCH WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO PARTICIPATING IN THE REVIEW AND UPDATING OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. CARE BELIEVES THE NUMBER OF CHANGES IN LOCAL CONDITIONS MERIT UPDATES TO THE COUNTY LEGALLY MANDATED CONFERENCE A PLAN. CARE BELIEVES THE PLAN SHOULD BE AMENDED TO DEVELOP AND ADD OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES TO EXPAND HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TO ACHIEVE
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RELIABLE BROADBAND FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND ADDRESS OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS , ADDRESS OF A HOUSING MORE AGGRESSIVELY INCLUDING ESTABLISHING A PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY AND WE SHOULD ADD A NEW GOAL OF ENDING HOMELESSNESS IN THE COUNTY AS WELL AS DEVELOPING SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES TO HELP US WORK TOWARD AND PERHAPS ONE DAY ADD TO THE GOAL, THERE WAS CONCERN LAST MARCH THAT THE PROCESS FOR THE PLAN REVIEW NEEDED TO OBTAIN AND THEN USE MANY FOR CITIZEN INPUT AND AS WE SAID WE OFTEN SEE COUNTY DECISIONS AND OUTCOMES THAT BEAR LITTLE AND NO RELATIONSHIP TO INPUT PROVIDED AND FREQUENTLY IS UNABLE TO DISCERN WHETHER THE PUBLIC INPUT WAS EVEN CONSIDERED AT ALL IN THIS DECISION-MAKING PROCESS. FAST-FORWARD MARCH TO NOVEMBER 2022 TO 2023 WHEN THE COUNTY LAUNCHED AND ANNOUNCED HIS COMPANY TO PLAN PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS WHICH INCLUDED PLANS FOR A SERIES OF TOWN HALLS IN EACH COUNTY COMMISSIONER DISTRICT. MEANWHILE ACCORDING TO THE WEBSITE FOR THE CONFERENCE A PLAN UPDATE THE SCHEDULE FOR THE DRAFT AND REVISING OF GOALS OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES RUNS FROM MARCH THROUGH JULY OF THIS YEAR. CARE HAS BEEN PLANNING TO ATTEND AT LEAST SOME OF THE TOWN HALLS AS WE UNDERSTAND MEMBERS HAVE BEEN PLANNING TO AS WELL BUT WE KEEP LOOKING ON THE WEBSITE FOR SCHEDULING. UNDER UPCOMING EVENTS TOWN HALLS, ALL THAT IT SAYS IS MORE INFORMATION IS COMING SOON.WHEN? IT'S ALREADY FEBRUARY 6TH AT THE COUNTY STARTS DRAFTING THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND POLICY STARTING IN MARCH ASSUMING YOU ACTUALLY WANT AND WILL CONSIDER PUBLIC INPUT TO HELP SHAPE THESE UPDATED GOALS AND POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES FOR THE PLAN THEN YOUR CONTRACTOR AND STAFF HAD BETTER START SCHEDULING PROMISED TOWNHALL MEETING SOON.
WE NOTE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE THROUGH SEVERAL WEEKS BUT PROVIDING DIFFERENT MODES FOR INPUT IS ALMOST ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA IF YOU'RE SERIOUS ABOUT HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC. WE DON'T THINK THERE IS A SUBSTITUTE FOR IN PERSON MEETINGS FOR CITIZENS AND COUNTY REPS TO INTERACT IN PERSON AND REAL TIME. FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITIZENS WE ASK YOU TO COMMIT TO SCHEDULING THE TOWN HALLS FOR THE PURPOSES OF OBTAINING MEANINGFUL CITIZEN INPUT AND IF NECESSARY ADJUST THE PREVIOUS SCHEDULE TO ALLOW THE COUNTY TO OBTAIN INPUT INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS UPDATED IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.
ADDRESS ] THE GIVER GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN REGARDS THE PARK AND RECREATIONAL SHORT DRIVE TRAIL SAY NOTICING SOUTH. TODAY THERE ARE 400 RESIDENTS WHO SIGN PETITIONS OPPOSING THIS TRAIL. THERE BEEN SEVERAL AREAS OF CONCERN THAT HAVE SURFACED PERTAINING TO THE PROJECT. FIRST ONE IS THE QUESTION OF OWNERSHIP. PARK PROPERTY IS STILL CURRENTLY IN QUESTION ACCORDING TO THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY. A GROUP OF RESIDENTS HAVE PAID FOR THE TITLE SEARCH AND INDEPENDENT LEGAL OPINION FROM THE LAW FIRM. RESEARCH INDICATES THE PARK PROPERTY IS OWNED BY SAINT AUGUSTINE SOUTH APPROVING ASSOCIATION.
ACCORDING TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN AUGUST OF 1958 THIS RECEIVES THE ADOPTIONS AND DEDICATION SHOWN ON THE PLAT MAP DATED OCTOBER 1954. OF NOTE DEDICATIONS AND ADOPTIONS PLAT MAPS DID NOT AUTOMATICALLY CONFER OWNERSHIP UNTIL THE COURT RULING UNTIL 1971. THERE IS NO RECORD IN THE COUNTY REAL ESTATE OFFICE OF OFFICIAL CONVEYANCE THIS IS FOLLOWING THE DEDICATION AND ADOPTION OF THE PLAT MAP.
THERE IS ALSO CONCERN REGARDING COST OF THE COUNTY. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. THERE WILL BE BUDGET COST TO DO THIS TRAIL. NO DOUBT THESE DEBTS , THE COST AND EVERYTHING WILL INCREASE FROM THE INITIAL ESTIMATES AND THE BIDS. ALSO BACK SOMEWHERE AROUND 2018, 2019 PARKS AND RECREATION SENT A LETTER TO THE SHORE DRIVE RESIDENCE INFORMING THEM THAT THE PARK WAS OWNED BY AND PROPERTY AND ORDERED TO THE RESIDENCE TO STOP MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY UNDER PENALTY OF LAW. NOW THE COUNTY MUST PAY CONTRACTORS TO MAINTAIN THE GREENWAY WHEN THE RESIDENCE DID THE JOB FOR FREE FOR 65 YEARS. THERE IS ALSO SOME NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT YOU CAN PROBABLY IMAGINE WITH SOME OF THOSE BEING ENVIRONMENTAL OF COURSE IN ORDER TO GET THE TRAIL INTO THE GREEN SPACE DISTURBING OF THE LARGE ROOTS
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OF TREES WILL SHORTEN THEIR LIFESPAN. RESIDENTS HAVE EMPLOYED A ARBORIST AT THEIR EXPENSE FOR A MORE IN-DEPTH STUDY ON THIS TOPIC. THERE WILL BE DESTRUCTION OF WILDLIFE HABITAT WHEN THE BRUSH IS REMOVED FROM THE AREA. THE TRAIL WILL INTERFERE WITH FLOW OF WATER AND DECREASE PERCOLATING CAPACITY OF THE WATER FROM PROPERTY. THERE IS ALSO ELEMENTS IN REGARDS. I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THIS INTO THE RECORD AND I WILL GIVE IT TO THE CLERK NOW.I LIVE AT 4280 COASTAL HIGHWAY 32084. I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE WHAT VICKI WAS SAYING ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I HAVE BEEN READING IT AND IT IS SO COMPLEX AND DENSE THERE ARE SO MANY GREAT IDEAS IN THERE AND THAT IS SO MUCH THAT NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT A THING. I AM CONCERNED FROM WHAT I'VE READ WE ONLY HAVE 30 DAYS TO DO THAT AND I KNOW WE PUSHED OFF THE TREE ORDINANCE TO REVISIT THAT WITH THE COMP PLAN AND THAT ALONE COULD TAKE 30 DAYS. THERE IS JUST SO MUCH IN IT AND IT IS SO IMPORTANT. SO WE ARE HOPING THAT THEY WILL BE MEETINGS AND TOWN HALLS THAT ARE NOT JUST RESTRICTED TO 30 DAYS. SO WE CAN REALLY TRULY LOOK AT SOME OF THE ISSUES. I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE COMP PLAN BECAUSE I THINK IT IS A REALLY COOL A LOT OF ASPIRATIONAL GOALS IN THERE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW WE CAN GET TO IT AND MAYBE DO A LITTLE BIT MORE CONCRETE IDEAS AND GOALS AND MEASURES FOR HOW WE ARE ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS AND ATTAINABLE HOUSING AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. ALSO ON A DIFFERENT NOTE I AGREE THE INCREASED DENSITY AS SUGGESTED IN THE LIVE LOCAL ACTS WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR PROVIDING MORE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE. MY LAST COMMENT HAS TO DO WITH THE OTHER WOMAN'S COMMENT ABOUT THE LIBRARIES. I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT SHE WAS SAYING BUT I THOUGHT OUR LIBRARIES WERE PUBLIC SPACES FOR EVERYONE TO USE AND ENJOY. IT BOTHERS ME AND I'M NOT SURE IF I UNDERSTOOD HER CORRECTLY.
THERE MAY BE SOME MOVEMENT TO RESTRICT THE LIBRARY IN SOME WAY TO CERTAIN TYPES OF PEOPLE. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE WAS SAYING BUT I HOPE THAT'S NOT THE CASE BECAUSE WE NEED PUBLIC LIBRARIES, WE NEED A PLACE FOR ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT IDEAS , COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. WE DON'T NEED A PUBLIC LIBRARY CHURCH IN MY OPINION. SO
THAT'S ALL, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING. COUNTY COMMISSIONER DISTRICT 5 I AM CONCERNED ABOUT SEVERAL WAYS IN WHICH I BELIEVE THIS COMMISSION IS NOT PROVIDING SUFFICIENT INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC. ONE IMPORTANT PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT RESIDENTS NEED TO KNOW ABOUT ARE THE COMMISSIONER VOTING RECORDS, AFTER ALL THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONERS DO EVERY OTHER TUESDAY. THEY HEAR EVIDENCE AND VOTE, THOSE VOTES SHOULD BE READILY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC ONLINE. LISTED CHRONOLOGICALLY AND WITH PERTINENT INFORMATION ABOUT EACH AGENDA ITEM THAT IS VOTED ON SUCH AS THE CHANGE OF LAND-USE THAT WAS SOUGHT. IN THE CASE OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT EACH VOTE SHOULD BE ACCOMPANIED WITH A NUMBER OF ACRES AND HOUSING UNITS INVOLVED. OTHERWISE WE ARE LEFT TO POUR THROUGH EVERY SINGLE PAGE AND MINUTES AND AGENDA ITEMS TO DETERMINE WHO VOTED FOR WHAT. NOW I AM HEARING WILD ACCUSATIONS ABOUT THE VOTES ABOUT THE VOTES THAT MY CAMPAIGN COUNTED AND CLAIMS WE COUNTED CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS SUCH AS THE PLACEMENT OF FIRE HYDRANTS INSTEAD OF DEVELOPMENTS. NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. WE ONLY COUNTED THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS. THERE NEEDS TO BE A CLEAR AND DETAILED VOTING RECORD FOR EVERY COMMISSIONER. THE PUBLIC IS ALSO RECEIVING INSUFFICIENT INFORMATION AND OUR MINUTES REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS ANYWHERE IN OUR MINUTES STARTING NOVEMBER 2ND OF 2022
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THIS COMMISSION AGREED TO TAKE THEM OUT. THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE IS GONE SO INSTEAD OF A NAME AND ADDRESS AND A SUMMARY OF COMMENTS THERE IS NOW A NAME AND NOTHING ELSE. THE SAME THING WITH THE PZA MINUTES. HOW DID THE TAXPAYER WHO PAYS YOUR SALARIES END UP WITH NO VOICE IN THE MINUTES? PLEASE ON'T TELL US TO GO WATCH TO SEE WHAT THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE. WE WANT THEM RESTORED TO THE MINUTES. EVEN THE ABILITY TO MAKE NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS IS RESTRICTED BY THE COMMISSION. 11:30 PUBLIC, TIME WAS AN IMPROVEMENT BUT IT IS NOT TIME CERTAIN AS PROMISED. RESIDENTS CAN SHOW UP AT 11:30 TO FIND OUT SOMETIMES THAT THE COMMENT PERIOD IS OVER. IT IS ALSO A TERRIBLE INCONVENIENCE TO STRETCH AN AGENDA ITEM OVER THE NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AS HAPPENED WITH THE TREE HEARING CAUSING AN AUDITORIUM FULL OF PEOPLE TO SPEND YET ANOTHER HALF HOUR OF THEIR TIME AWAITING FOR THEIR AGENDA ITEM TO CONTINUE. PUBLIC COMMENT NEEDS TO BE FIRST WHERE THEY ONCE WERE. I DON'T EXPECT ANY OF THESE CHANGES TO BE MADE UNDER THIS COMMISSION, BUT IT IS ONE OF THE MANY REASONS I AM RUNNING FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONER. TO PUT THE PUBLIC FIRST EVERY SINGLE TIME. THANK YOU.ADDRESS ] I AM HERE TO PRESENT TWO DOCUMENTS THAT YOU JUST HEARD FROM BRUCE INVOLVING THE TRAIL. AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE? THANK YOU, THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN READ.
HOUSE TO OUR SMALL PARK. I AM 100% OPPOSED TO MOVING THIS HOUSE OVER TO THE SMALL PARK. YOU'LL FIND WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE HERE WHO PROBABLY WON'T SPEAK BUT THEY ARE ALL AGAINST THIS. THIS PARK IS NOT DESIGNED TO PUT THIS IN IT.
THIS IS A SMALL PARK. YOU'RE GOING TO CUT DOWN THE WOODS, YOU'RE GOING TO ENTER TO THE PARK AREA WHERE THE KIDS AND THE PARENTS TAKE THEIR KIDS AND THIS IS WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE. THIS WILL BE A TOURIST ATTRACTION. I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY SAY OR WHAT ANYBODY TELLS YOU. THERE WILL BE A TOURIST ATTRACTION ATTACHED TO THIS AND WE HAVE GOT ENOUGH TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW ON A1A THEN IS TO BE FOUR LANES BEFORE ANYTHING GOES ON. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OF YOU GUYS THAT LIVE THIS WAY, YOU WANT TO PUT THIS BUILDING IN FRONT OF YOUR FRONT YARD? THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GETTING READY TO DO TO EVERYBODY ON FIRST STREET. YOU WILL PUT THE BUILDING DOWN HERE WHICH WE OPPOSE. NOBODY GOT A CHANCE TO HEAR ABOUT THIS, NOBODY CONTACTED A RESIDENT IN WINDSWEPT ACRES , PERIOD TO DISCUSS THIS BEFORE IT CAME UP AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE ALL GOT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. I SENT YOU AN EMAIL I OPPOSED IT 100% AND IT SHOULD NOT BE THERE AND IT SHOULD NOT EVEN BE IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT YOU HAVE NOT EVEN HAD A ZONING NOTICE PUT ON THE ROAD. ARE WE SUPPOSED TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE BUILDING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, HOW MUCH OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE WILL STAY , AT WHAT POINT DOES IT BECOME A NONHISTORICAL BUILDING? WHO IS THE THIRD PARTY IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THE COUNTY GETTING A GRANT , SPENDING MONEY TO MOVE THIS HOUSE ACROSS THE ROAD? I SENT AN EMAIL TO SAY MOVED TO BUTLER PARK EAST THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM, PLENTY OF ROOM IN BUTLER PARK WEST, NO DISCUSSION NO NOTHING. I SPOKE WITH MR. CAIN ABOUT THIS, HE WAS DOING A VIDEO ON THURSDAY MORNING AND I STOPPED AND INTERRUPTED HIM FOR HIM TO SPEAK WITH ME ABOUT THIS AND HE SAID IT'S ALREADY IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. I SAID HOW DID IT GET IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WITH NO NOTICE? NOT ONE NOTICE HAS BEEN PUT ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD FOR THIS JOB. I KNOW HOW NOTICES AND ZONING WORKS. THIS IS NOT THE CORRECT WAY TO SHUT THIS DOWN OUR THROATS. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF ANGRY PEOPLE PERIOD.
AND I AM ONE OF THEM. THANK YOU.
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>> THIS . WE JUST SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT LOCATION AND PRESERVATION IN THE LLANO AND THE RESTAURANT IS GOING TO STAY, THAT'S NOT MOVING ANYWHERE. I THINK MOVING TO THIS HOUSE WITH HISTORICAL VALUE DIMINISHES THE VALUE. PUTTING IT IN A PARK WHERE NO ONE WANTS IT IS NOT THE SOLUTION. MY CHILDREN HAVE BEEN USING THIS, WE DON'T CALL IT WINDSWEPT ACRES PARK WE CALLED THE BIKE RIDING PARK. HAVE NOT BEEN DOING THAT THE LAST TWO YEARS BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF RUST.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO MONEY BEING PUT INTO IT OTHER THAN THE $47,000 THAT WAS PUT INTO A SHADE AND NEW SWING SETS. ALL ALONG THERE IS A ROAD THROUGHOUT, LITTLE PATHWAY THAT GOES AROUND WHERE THESE TO BE WORKOUT EQUIPMENT, THAT JUST DECAYED AND RUSTED UNTIL EVENTUALLY IT WAS TAKEN OUT.
THE AMOUNT OF RIVETS THAT ARRESTED THAT ARE IN THE AREA WHERE THEY PLAY IT IS TO THE POINT WHERE I DON'T WANT TO BRING MY CHILDREN IN THERE. WE SPEND $47,000 BUT YOU DID NOT FIX OR SOLUTION. I DON'T THINK PUTTING THIS HOUSE THERE WILL PRESERVE IT WHATSOEVER, IT WILL DECAY LIKE THAT SAME PARK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LAST MEETING COMMISSIONER DEAN GIVE A TWO-MINUTE CAMPAIGN SPEECH EIGHT DAYS AFTER FILING TO RUN FOR REELECTION. HE IS THE SAME COMMISSIONER WHO MADE THE MOTION TO CENSURE THE COMMISSIONERS JOSEPH FOR GIVING WHAT HE CALLED A CAMPAIGN SPEECH IN THIS AUDITORIUM. MR. DEAN WENT SO FAR TO SAY SHE MAY HAVE VIOLATED THE LAW. AFTER THAT A RESIDENT SAID TO THE COMMISSIONER YOU GAVE A CAMPAIGN SPEECH DIDN'T YOU? HE REPLIED YES, MAYBE I DID, MAYBE WE SHOULD HIRE A LAWYER. IS THIS ALL A BIG JOKE? THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN TAXES THAT THE COMMISSION SPENT TO GO AFTER THE ONLY COMMISSION WHO DOES NOT TAKE MONEY FROM DEVELOPERS AND THEIR MULTIPLE CAMPAIGN SPEECHES COMMISSIONER DEAN MADE AGGRESSIVELY PUSHING SALES TAX REFERENDUM. WHY IS THERE A DOUBLE STANDARD ON THE COMMISSION FOR HOW ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD CONDUCT THEMSELVES? I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THE JANUARY 16TH CAMPAIGN SPEECH SO ANYONE WHO HAS READ THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY NEW BOY KNOWS ABOUT THE DETAILED DESCRIPTION NEGOTIATING WITH A YOUNG MAN REPRESENTING THE STATE WHOM PAYTON DOES NOT NAME, SEVERAL YEARS AGO COMMISSIONER DEAN CORRECTED SEVERAL OF US WHO SAID THAT WAS HIM AND HE SAID NO IT WAS NOT HIM IN THE ROOM NEGOTIATING DIRECTLY. HE SAID IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE. WHY IS HE CLAIMING CREDIT FOR BEING THE NEGOTIATOR FOR THE DEAL WITH THE STATE FOR THE LAND? A DEAL WHICH SAYS NEGOTIATORS SO HARD THAT THE STATE PAID MORE THAN IT SHOULD HAVE MORE THAN IT HAD TO FOR THE LAND. SO MUCH FOR BRAGGING RIGHTS FOR THE NEGOTIATOR. LET'S NOT FORGET THE TAXPAYERS, PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHO PAID $49 MILLION FOR THE LAND. PEOPLE ARE OFTEN FORGOTTEN AND OVERLOOKED BY THE COMMISSION.
NONE OF MY WORDS IN THIS COMMENT WILL MAKE IT INTO THE MINUTES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE COMMISSION DECIDED. THEY OVERSAW THAT AND APPROVE IT AND CONTINUE TO APPROVE AFTER PEOPLE HAVE COMPLAINED. WHAT DOES THAT TELL US? THAT TELLS US WE'RE NOT HIGH-PRIORITY TO THE COMMISSION. THAT TELLS ME THEY BELIEVE THE VAST WARCHEST WILL GET THEM ELECTED AGAIN.
LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS ON AUGUST 20TH. THANK YOU.
ALONG WITH MANY NEIGHBORS ARE OPPOSING THE HOUSE BEING MOVED.
WE FILL THE COUNTY WAS UNJUSTIFIED IN EXCLUDING US.
WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHAT IS CONSIDERED A SITE THAT'S HISTORICAL SHOULD EVER MAINTAIN -- REMAIN ORIGINAL LOCATION SHOULD BE RELOCATED AFTER YEARS OF LOST PRESERVATION? IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE THE OWNER INTENDED TO PRESERVE IT WHEN HE WANTED TO ADD A SECOND AND THIRD STORY MAKING IT UNRECOGNIZABLE. WAS THE PLAN TO PRESERVE THE HOUSE WHEN HE WANTED TO CHANGE THE SETBACK TO THREE FEET, THERE SEEMS TO BE LITTLE TO NO ATTEMPT WHEN THEY WERE TOLD BY SOMEONE IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THAT ALL HAD TO DO WAS THREATEN TO DEMOLISH AND THE COUNTY WOULD TAKE OVER. WE PAID $40,000 TO
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IMPROVE WINDSWEPT ACRES PARK AND THAT WAS WELL NEEDED AFTER YEARS IT WAS ABANDONED. ALTHOUGH IT PREVENTS WERE MADE LITTLE WAS DONE TO KEEP KIDS SAFE FROM THE STRUCTURES AND MULTIPLE GIANT RUSTED HOLES. IF $40,000 WITH ALL THE PARK WAS WARRANTED AND SAFETY ISSUES WERE NOT ADDRESSED HOUSE A HOUSE WHOSE PRESERVATION LOST OVER THE YEARS AND IN PART IMPROVED TO BE DEMOLISHED OVER $400,000 OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS, THE GRAFFITI ON THE HOUSE IS GONE, THE BULLET HOLES ARE GONE WHEN ASKED AT THE CULTURAL CENTER HAD ANY INTEREST IN THE HOUSE EVEN THEY DID NOT JUMP AT THE OPPORTUNITY. THERE ARE 31 HOUSES, THE HOUSE WAS THE 21ST HOUSE ADDED. THE PRIORITY WAS LOW EVEN IN THEIR EYES. WHAT WITH THE COUNTY TO THE OTHER 30 HOUSES CAME FORWARD ASKING TO CHANGE THAT TO BE DEMOLISHED WITH THE COUNTY MOVE HOUSES TOO? THE REASON TO KEEP THE HOUSE IS UNCLEAR THE MONEY OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS IS UNJUST AND THE BUDGET FOR UPKEEP ALREADY POORLY UNKEPT PARK IS IN QUESTION. IF ANYONE TRULY FELT THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE FOR ITS HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE , THE LOCATION OF THIS HISTORICAL SITE SHOULD NOT CHANGE OR ADD BEST IT SHOULD MOVE TO BUTLER PARK DEDICATED TO FRANK BUTLER MIND YOU MARTIN LUTHER KING NEVER STAYED AT THE HOUSE WHILE HE DID STAY AT FRANK BUTLER BEACH HOTEL. THAT'S ALL, THANK YOU.TRIGGER THE PITIFUL RESPONSE TO DOCUMENTED FRAUD PRESENTED FOR THE LAST YEAR AND HALF WITH PUBLIC WORKS. TODAY TAKING YOU TO GROUND ZERO OF A FRAUD AS AN EXPENSE FRAUD AUDITOR AND SOMETIMES FORENSIC ACCOUNTANT . FIRST I'M GOING TO VISUALLY SHOW YOU , WELL I THOUGHT I WAS. THERE WE GO. VERY VALUABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY, 200 FEET IN MY HOMESTEAD. BEFORE THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE SIDEWALK PROJECT. THIS IS AFTER THE PROJECT, BUT PHOTOSHOP IN TO SHOW HOW IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AND HOW I AUTHORIZED IT. THIS IS WHAT I GOT THROUGH SIGNING A TCE IN GOOD FATH OF YOUR CONTRACT MANAGER STAKING ON MY PROPERTY TO KEEP IT FROM HAPPENING.
THIS IS WHAT I GOT. THIS IS WHAT HAS COME TO ME NOW AND I'M GOING TO BE TAKING THIS TO YOU , LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL.
I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT THIS WAS A CASE OF ILLEGAL EMINENT DOMAIN AND IT IS IRREFUTABLE. THE AGENCY PROCEEDS WITH EMINENT DOMAIN , FIRST THE STAFF REQUEST AUTHORITY FROM LEGISLATIVE BODY. PROVE THAT, SHOW IT TO ME. NO PERSON SHOULD BE DEPRIVED OF THEIR PROPERTY WITHOUT THE FIFTH AMENDMENT, FEDERAL LAW, NOR SHALL PRIVATE PROPERTY BE TAKEN FOR PUBLIC USE OF A JUST COMPENSATION.
THE TCE I WAS COURSED INTO SIGNING AND NOT GIVING YOU 10 FEET OF MY PROPERTY HAD A DOLLAR CONSIDERATION AND IT WAS NOT EVEN PAID TO ME. INVERSE CONDEMNATION IS A CLAIM MADE BY THE PROPERTY SO DEVASTATING IT IS THE EQUIVALENT. NOW LET'S GO TO GROUND ZERO. HERE IS A COPY OF THE BLUEPRINT AS IT WAS SENT TO ME BY THE COUNTY AS IT WAS SENT, COLORED IN WITH THE ONLY THING I ADDED, THIS COMMENT.
THIS IS THE BLUEPRINT ENLARGED SO I CAN SHOW IT TO YOUR.
THAT BLUE AREA REPRESENTS 10 FEET OF MY PROPERTY. I WAS THE ONLY ONE OUT OF 42 PEOPLE TO HAVE THIS EXHIBIT ATTACHED OR SUPPLEMENTING MY TCE AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE REVISED.
HOWEVER THIS IS MULTI-ROAD WITH 66 RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THEY PUT THE SIDEWALK IN GRAY ALONG UP TO MY PROPERTY . ASKING ONLY FOR ROOM TO BUILD THE FORMS. THIS IS WHAT I HAVE NOW.
THANKS TO INVERSE CONDEMNATION.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> WHOEVER DID THE BLUEPRINT
HAD NO RIGHT. >> SIR, SIR YOUR THREE MINUTES
IS UP. >> I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A YEAR AND A HALF AND HAVE NOT RESPONDED ONCE.
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>> YOUR THREE MINUTES IS UP. >> I HEAR YOU, I HEAR YOU.
WHY DON'T YOU HEAR US? >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.
, BEEN COMING TO SAINT AUGUSTINE SINCE 1985 AND I'M SURE AS MANY OF THE PEOPLE HERE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE THAT LONG, THEY KNOW THE TRAFIC HAS BECOME PRETTY MUCH UNBEARABLE. WHERE THIS AREA IS, LOOKING TO MOVE THIS HOUSE IT IS A TWO LANE HIGHWAY. ONE GOING NORTH AND ONE GOING SOUTH, THAT'S IT. THERE ARE THREE EXITS TO WINDSWEPT ACRES.
FIVE OR 10 MINUTES OR ON A SUNDAY YOU CAN SIT QUITE A WHILE. I CANNOT SEE THIS DOING ANYTHING TO IMPROVE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE SINCE WE CAN'T GET OUT ON THE HIGHWAY.
YOU SAW IT THIS MORNING , SOMEBODY TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT, THEY CANNOT DO IT. SO THEY SPEED UP, TRY TO BEAT THE TRAFFIC AND IT IS A HASSLE. MOVING THE HOUSE THERE IS GOING TO DO NOTHING BUT INCREASE TRAFFIC IN AN ALREADY CLOGGED UP AREA. I UNDERSTAND THERE IS HISTORICAL NATURE ABOUT THIS AND I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT FOR THIS REASON OR THAT REASON. PRACTICALITY, YOU CAN'T DRIVE THERE. TRAFFIC IS NOT GOING TO GET LIGHTER , IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET HEAVIER. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
YOUR TIME. THE HOUSE TO THIS AREA FOR REASONS THAT HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE IN A BETTER LOCATION ON EAST BUTLER PARK WOULD BE BETTER. I ALSO OPPOSE DESPERATE PROPOSED TO MOVE THE HOUSE ON THIS LOCATION BASED ON POSSIBILITY OF NEGATIVE IMPLICATIONS ON THE HOMEOWNERS , ESPECIALLY FLOODING WHICH IS A DANGER. THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONERS. I AM THEY ARE CONSIDERING MOVING TO WINDSWEPT ACRES PARK IS DESIGNATED AND IS ON THE CIVIL RIGHTS TRAIL. A SIGNIFICANT EVENT DID HAPPEN AT THE HOUSE WHICH THE PLACARD TELLS THE STORY OF DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS PERIOD IN SAINT AUGUSTINE. THE EVENT HAPPENED ON ATLANTIC VIEW NOT WINDSWEPT ACRES, FOR THAT REASON I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE MOVED. IF IT IS TO BE MOVED, IT SHOULD BE MOVED TO BUTLER PARK I FEEL WHICH ALSO PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS HISTORY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE. THERE IS MORE ROOM TO HAVE A STRUCTURE THERE AND IT WOULD BE MORE VISIBLE TO THE PUBLIC AND THEREFORE SEEN OFTEN BY THE PUBLIC WHICH WOULD HELP TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS HISTORY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE. IT WOULD NOT BE NEARLY AS VISIBLE AT WINDSWEPT ACRES. THIS LAND WAS DESIGNATED WHEN SOLD TO THE COUNTY TO BE MADE INTO A PARK FOR THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS BY PUTTING THE HOUSE IN THE PARK IT IS DISRUPTIVE TO THOSE WHO USE THE PARK BY CLEARING AWAY MANY OF THE TREES THAT RESIDE THERE AND DISTURBING THE RICH ECOLOGICAL LIFE THAT IS THERE.
IT WILL ALSO DISTURB THE PLAYGROUND THAT MANY CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES USE DAILY. IT WILL REMOVE SOME OF THE SIDEWALK USED BY MANY FOR THE DAILY EXERCISE. TO HAVE MADE THIS DECISION BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WITHOUT THE INPUT OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN WINDSWEPT ACRES , I FEEL IS THOUGHTLESS BY THOSE IN OFFICE DO NOT WANT INPUT BY THE RESIDENTS AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR HEARING ME. >> SO PROUD OF THE PEOPLE COMING OUT . THE ARROGANT AND DISMISSIVENESS COMING OUT OF THIS BOARD, NOT GIVING PEOPLE PROPER NOTICE. GUESS WHAT, YOU ARE ALL BEING NOTICED AND NOW.
YOU REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT IF YOU WANT TO BE IN PUBLIC OFFICE BUT I DON'T THINK YOU WILL. GOD BLESS AND
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HAVE A GREAT DAY.LANDFILL IN A LAKE. SHE CAUGHT THEM, SHE VIDEOTAPED THEM AND SHE AND I AND MY FRIEND DIANE MILLS, JERRY MILLS AND OTHERS WENT BACK AND BACK AND BACK TO THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND WE DID NOT GIVE UP UNTIL THE LANDFILL AND THAT LAKE WAS PUT IN A PROPER CLASS ONE LANDFILL IN NASSAU COUNTY.
THAT PLACE WHERE THEY PUT THE LANDFILL IN THE LAKE WAS GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THE BOULEVARD. I SALUTE SHERRY BADGER AND I WISH HER CONCERNS THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMISSION HAD BEEN HEARD YEARS AGO , YOU GUYS NEED TO LISTEN.
YOU DON'T EVEN TAKE NOTES, I HAVE WATCHED. EXCEPT FOR COMMISSIONER DEAN, HE TAKES NOTES SOMETIMES. THE REST OF YOU I DON'T THINK YOU TAKE NOTES AND NOW YOU NO LONGER ALLOW THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO TAKE NOTES OF WHAT WE SAY.
WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT TO ME LIKE I WAS A SIX-YEAR-OLD. WHAT PRINCIPLE REASON EXISTS ? THERE USED TO BE A LINK IN THE MINUTES IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMISSION OF MINUTES TO THE EXACT SPACE , THE EXACT POINT IN THE VIDEO WITH A PERSON SPOKE AND YOU CAN SEE IT IS GONE. WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THAT? IS THERE A LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENTAL PURPOSE FOR LEAVING OUT PUBLIC COMMENT? NOT EVEN A WORD, NOT EVEN A SENTENCE, NOT EVEN THE SUBJECT APPEARS. YOU ARE TRYING TO HIDE THE TRUTH THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL ALWAYS DO. THAT'S WHAT YOU ALWAYS DO UNDER THIS ONE PARTY RULE. CALL ON YOUR ATTENTION MARCH 15TH, 2022 THE DAY WHEN FOUR COMMISSIONERS VOTED TO PUT THAT $700 MILLION SALES TAX INCREASE ON THE BALLOT IN 2022. I SENT YOU ALL AN EMAIL , SENT THE COMMISSIONERS AN EMAIL AT THE TIME LISTING 25 PROPOSED GOVERNMENT REFORMS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY , MAJOR STRUCTURAL FUNCTIONAL REFORMS. THEY WERE NEVER ADDRESSED EXCEPT FOR THE FIRST ONE WHICH WAS BODY WORN CAMERAS AND POLICE DASHBOARD CAMERAS. WE GOT THOSE, THE OTHER 24 IDEAS NO ONE EVER ADDRESS, NO COMMISSIONER REACHED OUT AND SAID I THINK THOSE IDEAS ARE AWFUL OR A THINK THEY ARE GOOD OR LET'S WORK ON THEM, THERE IS NO BIPARTISANSHIP. WE HAVE ONE-PARTY RULE BY DEVELOPERS, BILLIONAIRES, MILLIONAIRES THAT GIVES YOUR CAMPAIGNS. NOW CAN WE GET AN APOLOGY FOR LEAVING OUR COMMENTS OUT OF THE COMMISSION MINUTES? OR DOES BEING ST. JOHNS COUNTY MEAN NEVER HAVING TO SAY YOU'RE SORRY? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU? THANK YOU.
STANDING HERE SYMBOLICALLY . I WAS TOLD WHEN I PUT SOMETHING ON THE OVERHEAD THAT IT WENT INTO PUBLIC RECORD. YOU SEE THE ATTORNEY CHASE PEOPLE DOWN AND ASK THEM FOR DOCUMENTS. I BELIEVE YOU TOLD ME WHEN HE ASKED ME FOR MINE THAT IT WOULD GO INTO PUBLIC RECORD. WHY ISN'T THAT ATTACHED TO THE NAMES OF PEOPLE THAT ARE SPEAKING AND ATTACHED TO THE MINUTES? WHY CAN'T WE ACCESS THAT? PLEASE MAKE OUR DOCUMENTATION THAT WE COME AND PRESENT AVAILABLE TO ALL OF US TO LOOK UP ONLINE. IN THE MINUTES AND ATTACH TO THE TV AS WELL. I TOTALLY AGREE, I LOOK AT THE MINUTES. I WENT AND I WAS FINALLY ABLE TO PULL UP THE MINUTES FROM PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OR AGENCY. NOW THE CALENDAR IS UP AND YOU CAN SEE THE AGENDA, THAT'S GREAT. I PULLED UP THE MINUTES TO A MEETING THAT REFERENCED SOMETHING COMING UP HERE TODAY. AND YOU JUST THROW IT UP, THERE'S NOTHING IN IT. IT IS NOT, YOU KNOW IT TELLS YOU WHO VOTED , BUT ON SOMETHING IT SAID WHO VOTED FOR AND AGAINST, THAT WAS SOMETHING OF USE. BEYOND THAT THE COMMENTS, I CANNOT TELL
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FROM THE MINUTES WHY THEY DISSENTED. WHAT THE ISSUES WERE. THAT IS ABYSMAL. WHY BOTHER? YOU WERE NOT BOTHERING BEFORE, NOW YOU ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE JOB AFTER FASHION, BUT LET'S MAKE IT A REAL AND HONEST COMMUNICATION . ALL OF THIS OPAQUE WITH PRETENSE IS THE REASON YOU HAVE ALL OF THIS ANGER. IF YOU'RE NOT COVERING SOMETHING UP, WHY DON'T YOU PUT IT OUT THERE? IT SURE LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE COVERING SOMETHING UP. ANYTIME YOU DO THIS KIND OF GAME. SO WHEN SOMEBODY SPEAKS, THEIR NAME SHOULD SHOW UP AND WHAT THEY SPOKE ABOUT AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE FOR OR AGAINST.IN CASE YOU NEED THAT BASIC TUTORIAL, THAT'S WHAT IT OUGHT TO BE. AND PLEASE WHEN SOMEBODY TAKES THE EFFORT, THESE PEOPLE ARE WORKING HARD, DOING THE RESEARCH AND THEY ARE PRESENTING FACTS AND INFORMATION THAT YOU SHOULD BE CONSIDERING. AND YOU ARE JUST SHUTTING IT OUT, YOU SIT AND ACT LIKE MAYBE YOU ARE PAYING ATTENTION SOMETIMES. AND THEN YOU VOTE HOW YOU WERE GOING TO VOTE BEFORE WE EVEN CAME UP AND SAID HI. HAVE A GOOD DAY.
NAME AND ADDRESS ] I LIVE CATTY CORNER TO WINDSWEPT ACRES AND I OWE POSTS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY WANT TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY TO MOVE A DILAPIDATED HOUSE PLUS CUT DOWN TREES AT THE PARK. I ENJOY THE PARK A LOT. I WALK THROUGH IT REGULARLY AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL THAT I CAN SAY. I OPPOSE THE IDEA.
HERE TO OPPOSE THAT PARK, TOO. THE MINUTE YOU PUT THE TIMES UNDERNEATH THAT LOT IS GOING TO START FALLING APART.
HISTORICAL VALUE HAS BEEN THROWN OUT THE WINDOW. IT IS A STUPID IDEA. IF YOU GO TO A TECHNICAL SCHOOL AND ASKED THEM TO MAKE A SCALED-DOWN MODEL IT MAY BE ONE OF THOSE VISUAL REALITY PICTURE THINGS AND TAKE YOU DOWN TO LINCOLNVILLE I BET THEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT, BUT I DON'T BELONG IN WINDSWEPT ACRES. IT IS A HUGE MISTAKE, THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE LOSING PROPERTY VALUE, THEY WILL BE AND IT WILL BE YOUR FAULT. I DID IT UNDER THREE MINUTES.
LOOKING THROUGH THE WEBSITE FOR VOTING AND I CAME ACROSS SOME INFORMATION WHY DID NOT COME ACROSS THE INFORMATION BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING FOR IT ABOUT NOT JUST THE TERM LIMITS, BUT HOW MANY TERMS CAN BE SERVED IN AN ELECTED OFFICE . I CALLED THE VOTING OFFICE AND THEY DO NOT GIVE ME AN ANSWER. THEY SAID WE THINK IT IS YOU KNOW THREE, WE THINK IT'S FOUR, IT'S UNLIMITED, THEY TOLD ME TO CALL THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER. I CALLED THAT. THEY HAD NO DIRECT INFORMATION TO JUST SAY YES IT IS FOUR YEARS OF A MAXIMUM OF 12.
WHETHER IT IS CONSECUTIVE OR BROKEN, WHATEVER. IT IS NOT ON THE WEBSITE. THEY REFERRED ME TO CALL ONE OF THE COUNTY LAWYERS. HE CALLED ME BACK AND I ASKED HIM THE SAME THING AND HE SAID THE SAME THING. THERE % IS NO REAL WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE TO SHOW HOW THESE OFFICES ARE EITHER FILLED, HOW LONG ARE THEY FILLED? HOW LONG CAN THEY BE TOTALLY FILLED? ONE INDIVIDUAL PERSON AND IS THERE QUALIFICATION OF ELECTED OFFICES? WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER SOMETHING ABOUT THE AGE. IS THERE SOMETHING ON THAT , THAT MIGHT BE PUT A GREAT IDEA OF A KIOSK THAT YOU CAN LOOK UP AND SEE HOW MANY YEARS IN A TERM ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THIS COUNTY CAN SERVE , WHETHER IT IS THE SHERIFF, A JUDGE OR COUNTY COMMISSIONER. WHAT ARE THE
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BASIC REQUIREMENTS FOR THE JOBS? LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE THAT ARE APPOINTED , THAT ARE VOLUNTEERED AND APPOINTED, THEY CHOSE WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE IN THE JOBS. A LOT OF THE OTHER ONES DO NOT. WHAT DOES IT SHOW FOR A COMMISSIONER? DOES IT HAVE TO BE AGE, RACE , A POLITICAL PARTY? HOW LONG CAN THEY SERVE? I CANNOT FIND IT ON THE WEBSITE FOR VOTING.WITH A COUNTY COMMISSIONER INDIVIDUAL I SPOKE WITH HAD NO CLUE , NO CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT IT IS . OKAY, SHOW ME IN WRITING , SHOW US IN WRITING ON A KIOSK SOMEWHERE , WHERE WE CAN SEE IT AND PULL IT UP AND WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE IN FOR.
VERY OPPOSED TO THE RELOCATION OF THE HOUSE. TO A COMMUNITY THAT IS DESIGNATED WINDSWEPT ACRES, THE PARK IS CALLED WINDSWEPT ACRES PARK FOR THE COMMUNITY AND OTHER VISITORS AND A LOT OF KIDS PLAY THERE. IT IS A NICE PARK. MY WIFE AND I GO THERE. THE PROPOSED LOCATION WOULD DESTROY A LOT OF TREES. I ENJOY WALKING DOWN THERE AND LOOKING AT THE VARIOUS BIRDS THAT HANG OUT, LIKE THIS MORNING I SAW A NICE BIG HAWK, THE AL AND THE HERON, WHERE THEY GOING BESIDES THE KIDS HAVING TO BE ON THEIR TOES BECAUSE OF AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC. THAT HOUSE HAS A LOT OF HISTORICAL HISTORY TO IT AND IT IS AN IMPORTANT PLACE, DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING VISITED THERE IS A SITE AND NOT A HOUSE, THE SITE IS LOCATED ON A OCEANFRONT AND I ASSUME ONE OF THE BIG REASONS IS THE DEVELOPER OR OWNER WOULD LIKE TO PUT A MORE EQUITABLE OR FINANCIAL BLESSING TO HIM ON THAT PROPERTY. WHAT DOES IT DO FOR US AS RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY? MORE TRAFFIC, MORE STORM WATER RUNOFF. ALREADY FLOODS TREMENDOUSLY. I WOULD ANTICIPATE TOUR BUSES COMING IN. ADDING ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS AND ISSUES TO SAY THE LEAST.
ANYWAY I AM OPPOSED ALONG WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE. I HOPE YOU TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION. FRANK BUTLER WAS ALSO A HISTORIC PERSON WHO HELPED THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND HE HAS TWO PARKS NAMED AFTER HIM. MAKES SENSE TO PUT THE HOUSE THERE , BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE USED OR WE SHOULD NOT USE TAXPAYER MONEY FOR THIS. SOMETHING TO REALLY THINK ABOUT IT SHOULD BE MORE OF A PRIVATE ISSUE. THANK YOU.
TO THE SHORE DRIVE TRAIL. FRAN AND BRUCE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED SOME THINGS AND THERE WERE A COUPLE THINGS THEY LEFT OUT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD. ONE IS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT HAS NOW STOPPED ON THE GREENWAY TO PREVENT ANY EVENTS SUCH AS PICNICS OR WEDDINGS, THINGS WE HAVE ENJOYED ON THE GREENWAY OVER 65 YEARS. SO ONCE THE TRAIL IS THERE THAT WILL BE ANOTHER ISSUE. SAFETY HAS BEEN CITED AS THE REASON TO BUILD THE TRAIL THIS EIGHT FOOT WIDE, THREE FEET ON EACH SIDE TRAIL FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS TO GET OFF THE ROAD. HOWEVER, THIS IS NOT THE SCOPE OF PARKS AND REC. THIS IS THE SCOPE OF ROAD AND BRIDGE AND ROAD AND BRIDGE NEEDS TO COME THINK ABOUT A SIDEWALK ON THE ROW, THE BIKES STAY ON THE ROAD JUST LIKE U.S. 1 AND EVERYWHERE ELSE. LASTLY I WENT TO ALPINE GROVE PARKS THE OTHER DAY BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE SAYING THIS IS SIMILAR AND WHAT I SAW AT ALPINE PARKS MADE MY STOMACH TURN. IT IS EROSION ALL THE WAY DOWN. THERE ARE MOUNTAINS OF DEADWOOD EVERYWHERE, FOR THE TRAIL WENT IN, THE TREES DO NOT DIE RIGHT AWAY, THEY DIE AFTER TWO, THREE, FOUR YEARS AND THERE WAS ENOUGH DEADWOOD TO BUILD A LOG CABIN THERE.
HERE IS WHAT YOUR OWN PEOPLE SAID ABOUT ALPINE GROVE. THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THIS PROJECT GENERALLY INCLUDES PROVISION OF ALL LABOR AND MATERIALS, YOU'RE PAYING $700,000 TO
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REPAIR THIS, TRANSPORTATION NECESSARY TO CONSTRUCT A REVELING TO STABILIZE THE SHORELINE, ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA TO INCLUDE NATURAL PLANTING TO PRESERVE THE NATURAL ELEMENTS OF THE PARK AT THE GREATEST EXTENT PRACTICAL AND TO PROTECT THE PARK AND SHORELINE FROM FUTURE EROSION EVENTS AND/OR FUTURE POTENTIAL IMPACTS FROM SEA LEVEL RISE.IN ACCORDANCE WITH CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT. THE SHORE DRIVE TRAIL GOES ALL ALONG THE SHORELINE. WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF EROSION THERE AND WE ACTUALLY HAD PEOPLE THERE INCLUDING COMMON WHO SAID THE NEXT THING YOU WILL NEED IS A SEAWALL. PUT IN THE TRAIL AND THEN BE PREPARED TO PAY FOR THE SEAWALL 3 1/2 MILES. IT IS RIDICULOUS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
COMMENT? LETTING ME GET UP HERE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ASKING. I WILL MAKE IT QUICK. I WILL GET RID OF HALF AND ASK ONE QUESTION.
CAN ANYONE GUESS MY QUESTION WILL BE? IT WILL BE CONTINUED UNTIL I GET AN ANSWER. THANK YOU. I'M WITH YOU, TRYING TO GET OVER MINE. QUESTION. AS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR STAFF THEN CONTACTED TO WRITE A RESOLUTION TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE INSTEAD OF AN INVOCATION. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE STARTED AND THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE , I WANT TO KNOW AND I WILL KEEP ASKING, THE PERSON THAT CREATED THIS SITUATION DOES NOT LIVE HERE, BUT I WANTED TO SAY PRAYER THAT WOULD BE A WAKING PRAYER. THIS IS WHAT I AM
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CONCERNED ABOUT. SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE THEY GOING TO COME TO THIS COUNTY AND HAVE YOU DO THE SAME THING THAT WE SAW TODAY WHICH WE STILL HAVE INVOCATION. THANK YOU.COMMENT? SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> OKAY BACK TO THE BOARD. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.
>> THANK YOU, THROUGH THE CHAIR TO MISS ANDERS APPLICABLE QUESTIONS BASED ON PUBLIC COMMENT. FIRST AND THIS WILL BE PRETTY SIMPLE. WHAT MEETING DID WE TAKE A VOTE TO AMEND THE WAY THE MINUTES WERE KEPT TO RECORD PUBLIC COMMENT?
>> I DON'T HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE THAT I CAN RECALL I DON'T RECALL WE HAVE TAKEN ANY ACTION TO AMEND ANYWAY WE PRESENT IT OR THE VIDEO FROM THE MEETING OR THE WAY WE TAKE MINUTES AND HOW WE PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC.
>> I WANT TO ASK ANOTHER WAY BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL EVER TAKING VOTE DIRECTING CLERK OF THE COURT OR STAFF TO AMEND THE WAY WE RECORD MINUTES. IS IT POSSIBLE WE NEVER GAVE ANY DIRECTION FOR YOU TO ADJUST THE WAY WE RECORD MINUTES?
>> NEVER HAPPENED IN MY KNOWLEDGE.
>> THAT'S NUMBER ONE AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS ABOUT THE HOUSE MY RECOLLECTION AND THIS HAS BEEN MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO MAYBE 1 1/2 OR TWO YEARS AGO THE COMMISSIONER AT THE TIME WHO SAW SOMETHING ON THE NEWS OR IT WAS BROUGHT TO HIS ATTENTION THE HOUSE WAS IN NEED OF SAVING AND IT HAD SOME HISTORICAL VALUE AND HE WANTED TO SAVE IT AND AT THE TIME WE DO REMEMBER IN THE PUBLIC MEETING WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT BRINGING BACK ON A FUTURE AGENDA TO MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THE NEIGHBORS ARE VERY UPSET ABOUT IT TODAY. AT THE TIME I ONLY REMEMBER THERE BEING SUPPORT BY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE, NOT A LOT, BUT A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WHO SUPPORTED OUR EFFORTS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME HEARING FROM NEIGHBORS THAT ARE UPSET BUT IS THAT YOUR RECOLLECTION? WE HAVE SOME MEMBERS WHO ARE NOW ON THE BOARD WHO WERE NOT ON THE BOARD WHEN THE DECISION WAS MADE MAYBE WE CAN USE A BRIEF REFRESH JUST SO THE REST OF US
UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT HERE. >> YOUR RECOLLECTION IS MY RECOLLECTION. WE PLAN TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING ON THURSDAY FEBRUARY 8TH FROM 5:00 UNTIL 6:00 TO DISCUSS TO ALL THE FACTS RELATED TO THE HOUSE , IT WILL BE A MEETING
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THAT WILL BE HOSTED BY THE PARKS FOUNDATION. MY RECOLLECTION WAS WHEN THE COMMISSIONER WAS HERE, THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE WENT TO THE HISTORICAL RESOURCE BOARD TO ASK FOR THEIR EVALUATION OF THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE HOUSE AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME ASSESSMENT FROM THE BOARD AND MADE RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD, THE COMMISSIONER THE TIME WAS STRONGLY SUPPORTING THE CONSERVATION OF THE STRUCTURE AND AT THE TIME THERE WAS NO FUNDING INVOLVED.IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HIM THAT HE KNEW HOW THIS WOULD BE FUNDED , RATHER THAN FROM THE TAXPAYER WALLETS. HE MADE A SUGGESTION THAT IF SOMEONE CAN FIND PRIVATE FUNDING OR OTHER FUNDING OUTSIDE OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FROM THE COUNTY THAT HE WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF RELOCATING THE HOUSE TO WINDSWEPT PARK. THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED AS THE LOCATION BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY NOW IN THE EVENT THAT THERE WAS NO FUNDING AVAILABLE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY TAXES THEN HE MADE A SUGGESTION THAT MAY BE WE CAN CAPTURE AN ARTIFACT FROM THE BUILDING TO BE DISPLAYED IN THE APPROPRIATE MUSEUM. OTHERWISE HE WAS VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THE VALUE AND THE PRESERVATION OF THE HISTORICAL VALUE OF THE HOUSE. SUBSEQUENTLY PARKS FOUNDATION TOOK ACTION AND THEY WERE ABLE TO SECURE A LITTLE OVER $400,000 FROM THE STATE APPROPRIATION TO COVER THE COST OF THE RELOCATION AND THEREFORE THEY CAME BEFORE THE BOARD TO ASK FOR THE BOARD DECISION WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE STILL IN SUPPORT OF THE RELOCATION WITH FUNDING SUPPORT FROM THE STATE, THE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY VOTED YES WE ARE GOING TO SUPPORT RELOCATION BASED ON PREVIOUS ACTION. IN THE AUDIENCE , IF ANY OF MY RECOLLECTION WAS INACCURATE I WILL ASK THEM TO CORRECT ME. THAT WAS MY RECOLLECTION, SO THERE WERE AT LEAST TWO VOTES FROM THE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY TO RELOCATE THE HOUSE TO THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION OF WINDSWEPT
PARK. >> OKAY MY ONLY QUESTION REMAINING IS WAS THERE ANY EFFORT MADE TO REACH OUT TO THIS COMMUNITY AND THESE NEIGHBORS TO TELL THEM THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAS DECIDED THIS IS THE BEST LOCATION, DO YOU RECALL ANY EFFORT TO REACH OUT?
>> I WILL ASK AND DEFER TO MY KNOWLEDGE HE HAS MADE A NUMBER OF EFFORTS TO REACH OUT EITHER PRIVATELY INDIVIDUALLY OR COLLECTIVELY AND I THINK THIS IS ONE MORE EFFORT WE ASKED FOR COLLABORATION FROM THE PARKS FOUNDATION TO MAKE A PUBLIC TOWN HALL AVAILABLE TO THE RESIDENTS.
>> I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR Q&A OR ANYTHING. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OKAY THANK YOU. SORRY, GO AHEAD. SUCK THANK YOU. DIRECT RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION THERE HAS NOT BEEN PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AS TO THE LOCATION OF THE SITE BESIDES THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION MEETINGS AND PUBLIC MEETINGS. THE PROJECT HAS BEEN CHAMPIONED BY THE PARK FOUNDATION WHO HAS SUBMITTED THE PAPERWORK TO GO THROUGH WITH THE ONLY REQUIREMENT THROUGH THAT PAPERWORK TO PUT UP SIGNAGE TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE MOVEMENT.
CERTAINLY THE BUZZ OF THE COMMUNITY HAS INSPIRED THEM TO SAY LET'S GET OUT TO DO A PUBLIC MEETING SO THAT THE MEETING SCHEDULED FOR THIS THURSDAY, WHERE IT WAS
GENERATED. >> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. I REALIZE IT IS A SENSITIVE SUBJECT. YOU HAVE MADE YOUR VOICES HEARD -- LOUD AND CLEAR. I'M TRYING TO LEARN MORE SO WE CAN MAKE THE BEST DECISION. I KNOW THERE WILL BE PUBLIC MEETING ON THURSDAY AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND EVERYBODY ATTEND TO LEARN AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT THEN WE ARE GOING TO GO TO COMMISSIONER REPORTS. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.
>> I DO WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THE DISCUSSION. IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO LOOK AT IT, A LOCATION THAT EVERYONE IS HAPPY WITH THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I WOULD LOVE TO LOOK AT OTHER COUNTIES TO SEE HOW THEY TAKE PUBLIC RECORD AND WHAT THEY DO ONLINE.
THAT WOULD BE EASY TO DO, TO SEE WHAT KIND OF , HOW THE DOCUMENT MEETINGS. LASTLY BUT I WANT TO TELL EVERYONE IS MARCH 26TH AT 5:30 I AM HAVING A LISTENING HOUR IN PONTE VEDRA BEACH LIBRARY. I KNOW IT IS ONE HOUR TO GET HERE SO I WILL BE THERE TAKING ANY QUESTIONS. I WILL WRITE ON PROBLEMS YOU WANT ME TO LOOK INTO AND I WANT TO BE AVAILABLE TO MY CONSTITUENTS WHO CANNOT ACTUALLY GET ALL THE
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WAY OVER HERE BECAUSE I DO DRIVE ONE HOUR TO GET HERE. I WILL HAVE TWO OF THOSE, ONE IN MARCH AND THE OTHER PROBABLY IN SEPTEMBER OR NOVEMBER. ANYWAY, MARCH 26TH AT THE PONTE VEDRA LIBRARY 5:30 UNTIL 6:30 AND I WILL HAVE SOME LITTLE THINGS YOU MIGHT WANT TO SEE THAT'S COMING TO THE COUNTY DISPLAYED IN THE PARKING LOT. THANK YOU.>> COMMISSIONER . >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
FIRST I WANT TO TAKE TIME TO CONGRATULATE A COUPLE OF FOLKS.
WE HAVE THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY TEACHER OF THE YEAR. I HAVE KNOWN HER FOR A FEW YEARS NOW AND THIS IS VERY WELL DESERVED.
AMY WHO I HAVE KNOWN FOR A WHILE IS THE ROOKIE TEACHER OF THE YEAR. SO AGAIN I WANT TO CONGRATULATE BOTH OF THEM.
NOBODY WORKS AS HARD AS OUR TEACHERS OUT THERE. A COUPLE OF MEETINGS COMING UP, THE HOUSE DISCUSSION WILL BE ON THURSDAY AS COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST SAID I RECOMMEND EVERYBODY GO TO THE MEETING. I DO KIND OF SEE AND I AM CONCERNED , AS WELL ABOUT THE , WHAT I WOULD SAY IS A LACK OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH REGARDS TO THE PARK. THESE FOLKS FEEL THEY WERE KIND OF BLINDSIDED BY THIS AND I THINK THERE IS SOME MISINFORMATION SO I THINK HAVING A GOOD DISCUSSION ON THURSDAY WOULD BE GREAT. SHORE DRIVE I CONTINUE TO MEET WITH NEIGHBORS AND FOLKS REGARDING THIS ISSUE AND I HAVE A MEETING, I BELIEVE A TOWN HALL MEETING FEBRUARY 14TH . SO IF YOU'RE NOT BUSY ON VALENTINE'S DAY, COME OUT AND HEAR ABOUT SHORE DRIVE AND WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO. AND THEN FINALLY A POINT I WANT TO BRING UP. FIRST OF ALL AGAIN I WANT TO THANK DAVID FOR YOUR SERVICE AS OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY.
YOU KNOW I KNOW THERE ARE THINGS YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY. BUT I FEEL LIKE YOU WORKED HARD IN EVERYTHING YOU DID NOTHING WITH ANY MALICE OR ILL WILL OR ANY BAD INTENT SO I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS . WITH THAT MOVING FORWARD, I REALLY BELIEVE WE NEED A INTERIM COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT HAS SOME EXPERIENCE AS A COUNTY ATTORNEY AND SOMEBODY THAT IS OUTSIDE THAT CAN TAKE A LOOK AND A CLEAR PERSPECTIVE. THE PERSON I AM LOOKING AT HAS OVER 25 YEARS EXPERIENCE AS AN ATTORNEY. HE IS WITH RALLY GARRISON COMMANDOS , THEY SPECIALIZE IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND HE IS ALSO CURRENTLY ST. JOHNS COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE AUTHORITY ATTORNEY. THE ACTING COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR BRADFORD BAKER AND PUTNAM AND CITY MUNICIPALITIES OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS AND PENNY FARMS, FORMER SUPERVISOR OF THE STATE REGARDING ITEMS AND SUPERVISED OVER 140 ATTORNEYS AND I HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH HIM. HE DOES NOT WANT THE JOB ON A PERMANENT BASIS. HE IS JUST LOOKING TO COME IN , CALL BALLS AND STRIKES, DO THIS ON A INTERIM BASIS UNTIL WE CAN DO A BETTER SEARCH. JOB AS COUNTY ATTORNEY WOULD BE TO INTERPRET THE LAW, GIVE SOUND LEGAL COUNCIL AND I THINK HE IS AN HONORABLE PERSON AND SOMEBODY WOULD DO A GREAT JOB AS THE INTERIM COUNTY ATTORNEY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION THAT CHAIR ARNOLD AND WE REACH OUT TO HIM AND POTENTIALLY WORK TOWARD BUILDING A , GETTING AN INTERIM CONTRACT. THAT IS MY
MOTION. >> MOTION AND SECOND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOME DISCUSSION. I PERSONALLY HAVE A QUESTION. HE DID MENTION HE REPRESENTS THE COUNTY INCAPACITY SO I ASSUME SHOULD HE BE RETAINED THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY PRESENT CONFLICT. WE WANT TO THAT OUT POTENTIAL CONFLICT. THERE ARE CONCERNS, MOTION TO HAVE BOARD DISCUSSION AND THEN GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?
>> OBVIOUSLY IF WE WERE GOING TO GO TO A NATIONAL SEARCH WE WOULD DO A NATIONAL SEARCH AND PUT A TEMPORARY LAWYER IN, BUT YOU KNOW I THINK THERE'S SOMEONE ALREADY HERE WHO HAS THE EXPERIENCE. SHE IS BOARD-CERTIFIED, THERE HAS NOT BEEN A WOMAN COUNTY ATTORNEY. I DON'T KNOW EVER. I THINK SHE HAS EXPERIENCE AND THE PROFESSIONALISM AND THEY COULD COME IN TO WORK NOW WITHOUT SPENDING MONEY TRYING TO FIND SOMEONE SHE HAS BEEN PART OF THE COMMUNITY. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY
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TRUST HER BY BEING FAIR AND I HAVE NOT EVER SEEN HER YOU KNOW JUST NOT BE PROFESSIONAL. THAT IS MY SUGGESTION.>> OKAY. ANY OTHER BOARD DISCUSSION OR PUBLIC COMMENT? HAVE COMPLETE CONFIDENCE IN THE OCA AS WELL LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE GREAT FOLKS, THEY WERE CARD. MY THOUGHT IS THAT HAVING SOMEONE IN THE INTERIM THAT DOES NOT WANT THE JOB THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO COME IN AND NOT HAVE ANY DOUBT ON ANY DECISIONS THEY MAKE WILL THIS PREVENT ME FROM GETTING THE JOB SO THIS IS AN OUTSIDE PERSPECTIVE LOOKING IN AND AGAIN I HAVE KNOWN RICH. HE HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE HE DOES THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES EVERYBODY LOOKING AT THIS GOING IF THEY HAVE SURROUNDINGCOUNTIES HOW DOES HE HAVE TIME FOR US , HE HAS SPOKEN WITH PARTNERS, BRADLEY AND GARRISON THEY GO TO STEP UP BUT THEY WILL HAVE THE TIME AVAILABLE TO WORK WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY. AND I THINK YOU WOULD BE A GREAT CHOICE.
TEST DESPERATE TO CLARIFY AS IT ROOM WITH INTENTIONAL TO DO
NATIONAL SEARCH. >> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> OPENING UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> ON THIS? I WOULD VOTE NO. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.
MAKING EXCELLENT INTERIM COUNTY ATTORNEY QUALIFIED WITH NO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. IF WE HIRE CORPORATE LAW FIRM TO BE COUNTY ATTORNEY WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE HAS THAT SENT DO NOT DO THIS. IT IS NOT EVEN WORTH TALKING ABOUT. YOU'RE NOT EVEN PRESENTED A RESUME OR APPLICATION OR CV ANY OF NOT PLACED ANYTHING ON THE WEBSITE OR IN ADVERTISEMENT. INVITING PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR THE INTERIM POSITION. NO NO NO NO NO NO.
DON'T GIVE US BABY TALK. THIS IS ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND COMMISSIONERS YOU HAVE A $1.6 BILLION PER YEAR BUDGET. ONE COMMISSIONERS FRIENDSHIP YOU WILL HIRE A CORPORATE OFFER FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AT INTERIM AND THEY WORK FROM HOW MANY COUNTIES AND HOW MANY DEVELOPERS ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR COTTON PICKING MIND? I AGREE INTERIM COUNTY ATTORNEY LET ME SUGGEST YOU SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN TENNESSEE IN THE LATE 80S OR EARLY 90S. THE CHIEF ATTORNEY FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, AND I WILL SPELL FOR THE COURT REPORTER. TYLER LEAVING. AND THEY GAVE TWO ASSISTANT DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY CHIEF COUNCILS FOR THIS OAK RIDGE OPERATION THE UNITED STATES OAK RIDGE OPERATION GAVE TWO EQUALLY SITUATED ASSISTANT CHIEF COUNCILS IN THAT OFFICE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY OUT FOR THE JOB SORT OF LIKE A REHEARSAL FOR A PLAY AND EACH GOT TO SERVE POSITION FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE MANAGER OF OAK RIDGE OPERATIONS AND DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY CHOSE ONE OF THE CANDIDATES. SO MAYBE DO THAT.
A WOMAN COUNTY ATTORNEY AND LIKE I TOLD WHEN SHE WAS SELECTED I SAID MY MAMA TOLD ME WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BOY THAT IF A WOMAN SHE HAD TO BE TWICE AS GOOD TO GET HALF AS FAR AND THE COMMISSION HAS IMMEDIATELY ELIMINATED CONSIDERATION OF THE ONLY QUALIFIED WOMAN CANDIDATE WHO IS HERE. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU, YOU CANNOT DO THAT THAT VIOLATES TITLE VII OF THE 1964 CIVIL RIGHTS ACT DISCRIMINATING AGAINST WOMEN AGAIN AND THIS COUNTY HAS DISCRIMINATED AGAINST WOMEN AND BLACKS AND AND LESBIAN ALL THE TIME AND WE ARE SICK OF IT. WE ARE SICK OF THE DISCRIMINATION OF THE GOOD OLD BOY ALL THE REPUBLICAN ONE-PARTY RULE LIKE MY MOM ONCE SAID I'M SURROUNDED BY MEDIOCRITY , THANK YOU.
WEEKS AND POSTED THIS NOTICE AND PUT THE NAMES OF OF THE PEOPLE SUGGESTED SO WE CAN RESEARCH THEM AND THEN WE CAN COMMENT ON THEM. YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT ARE
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ENGAGED THAT ARE LOOKING THINGS UP AND COMING AND TALKING AND YOU CHOOSE TO IGNORE AND BLOCK US OUT PREVENT PARTICIPATION AT EVERY TURN. PLEASE WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY HERE MR. TAYLOR WHY AM SURE IS PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF HANDLING THINGS FOR A COUPLE WEEKS. I DISAGREE WITH THE CONCEPT THAT IT IS A BAD IDEA THAT WANT SOMEBODY TO HAVE A GOOD JOB. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO PUT SOMEBODY IN WHO WANTS A JOB. GIVES US A CHANCE TO GET TO KNOW THEM AND THEM A CHANCE TO GET TO KNOW US IN PRIVATE INDUSTRY WE DO THAT ALL THE TIME HIRING SOMEBODY TEMPORARILY ON A TRIAL BASIS. IT IS BRILLIANT AND IT WORKS AND IT'S PROVEN THAT'S A STUPID ARGUMENT BY SOMEBODY THAT HAS A FRIEND THEY WANT TO GIVE THE JOB TO FOR SOME REASON AND I HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH MR. COMMANDO. NOT IMPRESSED WERE NOT DESCRIBED HIM THE WAY HE WAS DESCRIBED AT ALL. PLEASE GIVE A COUPLE WEEKS LET'S DO THIS RIGHT.POST IT, GIVE US A CHANCE TO LET MR. TAYLOR TAKE CARE OF US FOR A COUPLE WEEKS. I'M SURE WE WILL SURVIVE JUST FINE, THANK YOU.
LIKE THIS HAPPENED A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN SOMEBODY WITHIN THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT WAS JUST ONE DAY SAID HEY, YOU WILL BE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. SURE, GREAT. OKAY. AND WHEN THE FLURRY HAPPENED AND GOT POINTED OUT AND A LOT OF MISCOMMUNICATION AND HE SAID SHE SAID TYPE INCIDENT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT. THEN, WHEN HE LEFT , A PUSH TO MAKE IT LOOK MORE OPENLY TO THE PUBLIC. THE ICE CREAM MELTED. IF YOU COMMISSIONER IS PERSONALLY RECOMMENDING SOMEONE TO TAKE THEIR POSITION, IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT UNETHICAL OR TO HAVE THAT PERSON TAKE THAT POSITION. LET'S HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION OF WHO WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE IT AND NOT JUST PROMOTING FROM WITHIN . THAT HAPPENED WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. WHAT IT WAS ALL SAID AND DONE IT WAS PROMOTED FROM WITHIN. HAVING A PERSONAL AFFILIATE RECOMMENDED FOR A COUNTY POSITION , I DON'T LIKE IT. AND I'M SURE THERE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD
FEEL THE SAME WAY. THANK YOU. >> NOW THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED THE COMMUNITY HAS NOT BEEN INVOLVED, ARE ANY OF YOU PARTICIPATING IN THE MEETING?
>> WE ARE ON A DIFFERENT ITEM NOW. WE ARE DISCUSSING THE MOTION OF THE INTERIM COUNTY ATTORNEY.
>> FIRST OF ALL, I AGREE THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE IT. IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU SAY THINGS HE WOULD'VE DONE DIFFERENTLY BUT DON'T DESCRIBE THOSE FOR THE PUBLIC. IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF NOT BEING TRANSPARENT. IN REGARD TO HUNTER CONRAD, THAT ENDED UP COSTING US ABOUT $95,000 PLUS BENEFITS. I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH AN ATTORNEY IF ANY ATTORNEY BEING CHERRY PICKED BY THE COMMISSION IS CONCERNING. THERE IS A LOT GOING ON AS FAR AS LITIGATION AND CENSORSHIP AND OTHER MATTERS. IT MAKES SENSE TO STEP SOMEONE UP WHO IS ALREADY
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FAMILIAR AND UP TO SPEED WITH THESE ISSUES AND BRINGING SOMEONE IN IT WILL TAKE TIME TO GET THEM UP TO SPEED. I WORKED FOR A CITY ATTORNEY FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS AND I'VE NEVER SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN WE HAVE A TON OF LITIGATION GOING ON. IT FEELS LIKE TALKING ON BOTH SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH. WHY WOULD WE NOT DO THE SAME THING FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY? I'M ASKING YOU TO PUT PEOPLE OVERPOLITICS. >> TO ME, THIS DECISION REPRESENTS AN EXAMPLE OF THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION HAVING NO EXPERIENCE IN THE CORPORATE WORLD. THIS DECISION IS NONSENSICAL. YOU HAVE THESE ATTORNEYS HERE INVOLVED IN CASES AND EVERYTHING LEGAL IN THE COUNTY AND YOU WILL BRING SOMEONE IN WHO HAS ZERO KNOWLEDGE. IS OBVIOUSLY POLITICAL DECISION AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WAS TERMINATED. HE'S GETTING SEVERANCE FOR ANY REASON. WE NOTICED MUTUAL, BUT WE WANT TO KNOW WHY AND WHAT IS GOING ON. VERY INTERESTING TIMING THAT THIS OCCURRED AFTER THE CENSURE OF MR. JOSEPH. AND WE BRING IN AN OUTSIDE PERSON WHO'S A FRIEND. EVERY WEEK THERE IS A NEW CRAZY THING IN THIS COUNTY. IT IS RIDICULOUS.
>> ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT IT BRINGS US BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
I DO WANT TO MAKE A SUGGESTION, AND IS THERE A SCENARIO IN WHICH WE COULD POTENTIALLY SPLIT AUTHORITY CURRENTLY BETWEEN -- BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING ENSURE THERE ARE NOT ANY CONFLICTS AND MAKE SURE IT IS A GOOD FIT.
>> I CAN DO FOR THE LEGALITY TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I CAN SPEAK FROM MY EXPERIENCE WHEN THE BOARD WAS VETTING THROUGH THE RECRUITMENT PLAN, I THINK WE SPLIT THE AUTHORITY IN THE MEANTIME BEFORE THE BOARD COULD MAKE A
DECISION. >> THAT WAS MY RECOLLECTION. I UNDERSTAND HE'S MORE THAN QUALIFIED. I THINK THAT ULTIMATELY I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO PUT YOUR NAME IN THE HAT. BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUTSIDE . THE BOARD IS AT AN INTERESTING AND CONTENTIOUS POSITION.
>> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. I WAS NOT AWARE WE WOULD HAVE THIS DISCUSSION TODAY. I LIKE YOUR IDEA AND LET ME SAY I HAVE HIGH CONFIDENCE AND I WOULD BE HAPPY IF THEY THROW THEIR HAT IN THE RING . I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH BOTH. I DON'T KNOW IF IT HURTS YOU OR HELPS YOU . I
LIKE YOUR IDEA. >> THANK YOU , COMMISSIONER DEAN. DO WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE 2ND.
>> CAN YOU REPEAT THE MOTION? I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS.
>> YES. BY MOTION WAS TO AUTHORIZE THE CHAIR AND THE
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COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE TO REACH OUT TO WORK TOWARD AN INTERIMCONTRACT FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY. >> I I SEE WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK. >> I PROBABLY HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SITTING ON THESE REGIONAL BOARDS WHERE HERE COUNTIES THAT THEY BRAG ABOUT HIM ON A REGULAR BASIS. HE'S A ROCK SOLID ATTORNEY HE DOES NOT WANT THE PERMANENT JOB HE SHOULD PROBABLY NOT BE THE PERMANENT ATTORNEY. BUT I KNOW HE DOES ROCK SOLID WORK . HE KNOWS THE ISSUES THAT AFFECT US HERE. AND I THINK SHE WOULD BE A GREAT APPOINTEE.
>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION . CAN WE HAVE A TWO-WEEK VETTING PROCESS OF BRINGING THIS BACK FOR CONFIRMATION TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO CONFLICTS AND TO HIRE OR RETAIN RICH KOMANDO?
>> THERE IS A COUNTY ATTORNEY ORDINANCE THAT DOES NOT
VIOLATE THAT IN ANY WAY. >> IN THE MEANTIME --
>> IS THERE A CONFLICT WITH HIM SERVING AND SERVING IN
THE INTERIM? >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. AS A MEMBER OF THE BAR HE WILL HAVE TO DO HIS OWN CONFLICT CHECK. IF THERE'S ANY CONFLICT WHATSOEVER, HE CANNOT SERVE BOTH. MEANWHILE , THIS OFFICE CAN REVIEW THAT IN THE INTERIM AND GET AN ANSWER TO YOU. I KNOW HE WILL BE LOOKING AT IT IF THIS PASSES FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE. WE WILL HAVE AN ANSWER BEFORE NEXT WEEK.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. WE HAVE A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. AND IT PASSES 4-1. MOVING ON WITH COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.
>> THANK YOU. VERY QUICKLY I WANTED TO COMMENCE THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM. THEY LENGTHENED A TURN LANE BY ABOUT 1000 FEET , WHICH MAY SOUND LIKE A SMALL THING , BUT FOR SOME TIME NOW TRAFFIC IS SPILLING INTO THE LEFT THROUGH LANE. AND YOU HAD PEOPLE BACKING UP TRYING TO SWING OUT TO GET TO THE RIGHT-HAND LANE , AND IT'S AMAZING WHAT 1000 FEET OF AN EXTRA LANE CAN DO TO MAKE IT SAFER. I WANTED TO COMMEND THEM FOR NOT ONLY IDENTIFYING THE PROJECT BUT WORKING ON IT AND GETTING IT FINISHED WITHIN ABOUT A MONTHS TIME.
>> COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> I WANT TO MENTION ONE THING THAT WE HAVE A GREAT CONFERENCE GOING ON TOMORROW.
IT'S THE 37TH NATIONAL CONFERENCE ON BEACH PRESERVATION . I WILL BE GIVING THE WELCOMING REMARKS.
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THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> I HAVE A FEW THINGS. I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A SUPPORT LETTER FROM THE BOARD AND IF IT IS APPROVED SIGNED BY THE CHAIR TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST FOR THE TASK FORCE -- THE BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM. THE STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING HARD. WE MADE A PRESENTATION TO THE TASK FORCE ON DECEMBER 19TH AND A GROUP OF US HAVE
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PARTICIPATED IN THE ROUNDTABLE LAST WEEK. WE WERE JUST GIVEN THE DEADLINE TO HAVE YOUR 19TH TO SUBMIT OUR PACKAGE TO RESPOND TO THE APPROVED CRITERIA. ONE OF THEM THAT WAS GIVEN A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF POINTS WAS THESUPPORT. >> DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS? THANK
YOU. >> I HEARD IT WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE CLERKS LAWSUIT . I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RESPONSE TO THAT. WE JUST RECEIVED A REPORT THAT IT WAS RECEIVED IN ORDER OF DISMISSAL TO RESPOND TO THE COURT ORDER. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT NO PUBLIC
FUNDS HAVE BEEN SPENT. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT
CLARIFICATION. >> I ALSO HAVE A QUICK UPDATE .
I HEARD A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT PARTICIPATION. PUBLIC AFFAIRS WILL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY. I JUST RECEIVED THE INFORMATION ON THE FUTURE DATE OF OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. THIS IS A COMBINED PUBLIC MEETING TO COMBINE AN ENGAGEMENT FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE WITH OUR NEW STRATEGIC PLAN SO THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR FROM BOTH CONSULTANTS AND THE STAFF.
WITH SCHEDULED THREE MEETINGS IN FEBRUARY. THERE ARE MORE MEETINGS WE ARE TRYING TO SCHEDULE IN MARCH. ON FEBRUARY 20TH WE HAVE A JOINT TOWN HALL MEETING FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AT A MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING ON THE 21ST AT THE SOUTHEAST BRANCH LIBRARY AND FEBRUARY 22ND . WE PLAN TO HAVE THREE MORE MEETINGS IN MARCH AND MAKE SURE ANYONE WHO IS OUT OF TOWN CAN STILL PARTICIPATE.
THAT IS MY UPDATE . I WANT TO CONCLUDE MY REPORT WITH A CONGRATULATIONS TO THE BOARD. IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE HAVE OUR CONSENT ITEM THAT WAS APPROVED. I DON'T KNOW OF THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE MAGNITUDE OF WHICH THIS IS APPROVED AND IS A SERIOUS EFFORT FROM -- THE BOARD JUST APPROVED CENTRAL PHARMACEUTICAL FACILITY. WE ARE LOOKING AT HUNDRED $45 MILLION OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT ÚAND 100 JOBS CREATED AND 400 CREATED AT THE BUILDOUT OF THIS FACILITY. I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND I COMMEND YOUR EFFORTS THAT YOU'VE DONE WITH YOUR TIME AND YOUR ENERGY. I WANTED TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION THAT EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE MADE A $5 MILLION INVESTMENT FROM TAXPAYER DOLLARS , AND THAT IS NOT TRUE. ARE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES IS STRUCTURED AS A REBATE. IS REIMBURSEMENT OF PROPERTY TAXES THAT INVESTORS FROM THE PRIVATE ENTITIES THAT WOULD HAVE PAID INTO OUR REVENUE
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FUNDS AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE BOARD HAS DONE IS TO REINVEST THE PROPERTY TAXES THAT THIS INVESTOR WAS GOING TO MAKE BACK TO THE INVESTMENT OF $145 MILLION. THANK YOU, ANDCONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU. I KNOW HOW HARD
OU WORKED ON THAT. >> THIS IS MY LAST MEETING. A QUICK THANK YOU TO THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES I'VE WORKED WITH. I
CAME TO WORK HERE IN 2011. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU AND I WISH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY THE BEST. WITH THAT, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.